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Seveasthat is unique in the linux distro world12:00
tristanmikeSeveas, it's too bad there is a lot of emphasis on the forums if they are sending the wrong information12:00
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kemikSeveas:  what about the debian community!? :) all nice and friendly.. gets you all *warm and fuzzy inside*12:00
slack7384kamiro87: np, I'm just trying to find a way that you can edit the xorg.conf file with some better permissions12:00
deibihla12:00
vbgunzbob2 recommended something to me yesterday... if I right click a folder in the right pane, the option to open in terminal is available... yet if I right-click a folder in the left pane "the tree" the option was unavailable *but* it seems that while in a folder in the right pane if I right click on an empty spot "on no file or folder" I'll be able to open that folder directly into a command prompt12:00
kamiro87ah ok12:00
vbgunzbob2 knows the command... I forgot it12:00
Seveaskemik, please, don't do that ever again12:00
Seveasmy stomach aches from laughing...12:01
tristanmikekemik, how many Debian people would tell me to rtfm?12:01
vbgunzbut it seems to suck if the entire window has files... :(12:01
Bergcubemarga_~ If you're running Ubuntu yourself: Download the DVD image via Bittorrent, right-click on it in the file-manager and select "burn" in the drop-down menu.  Worked for me.  :-)12:01
windextristanmike, i might tell you to rtfm if you ask a question like 'what is ls'. :)12:01
deibialguien habla espaol?12:01
kamiro87rtfm. ive been told that XD. didnt know what it ment the first time and googled it.12:01
tritiumdeibi, #ubuntu-es12:01
Seveas!es12:01
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.12:01
tristanmikewindex, now that's not very nice :P12:01
slack7384kamiro87: ok, i got a better idea, cd to the /etc/X11 directory as regular user, then issue "sudo gedit xorg.conf" and see if that works12:01
marga_Bergcube, ok, I don't know why I need to be running ubuntu :).  I can use k3b to burn the cd anyway :)  TNX12:02
kemikSeveas:  i wont.. i promise =)12:02
deibiok thsnks12:02
tristanmikewindex, what is rm -r / again?12:02
Lars_GSeveas: Do you have any idea why the default inet on Hoary is inetd and not xinetd?12:02
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kamiro87ok. i got a text editor w a file12:02
kemiktristanmike:  it's bad, that's what it is12:02
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windextristanmike, it's the command that proceeds a windows installation.12:03
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SeveasLars_G, that's about to change12:03
tristanmikewindex, now *that's* funny12:03
tristanmikelol12:03
kamiro87lol12:03
vbgunzdoes anyone here know how to modify the right-click menu for the left hand tree items?12:03
slack7384kamiro87: any luck?12:03
Seveasvbgunz, move to england so the left hand trees move to the right ;)12:04
slack7384kamiro87: do you see the xorg.conf file?12:04
kamiro87yup. it opened12:04
kamiro87in a text editor12:04
vbgunz;)12:04
Lars_GSeveas: For breezy?12:04
slack7384kamiro87: ok, scroll down to the section labled "Screen"12:04
kamiro87ok12:04
SeveasLars_G, no, iirc it's on a BOF for UBZ12:04
slack7384kamiro87: Section "Screen"12:05
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kamiro87yup12:05
vbgunzit's just a bit annoying being new and still having to type in full paths in the terminal... it would be nice to browse to it using Nautilus and then being able to access a terminal immediately on the directory...12:05
Lars_GSeveas: A what for what?12:05
kamiro87lisi see it12:05
kamiro87i*12:05
slack7384kamiro87: do you see text like Identifier, Device, Monitor, Default Depth, etc?12:05
Seveasha, knew you wouldn't understand :)12:05
kamiro87yes12:05
Seveaswiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBelowZero12:05
Lars_GSeveas: Congrats you were right.12:06
kamiro87i see a bunch of resolutions12:06
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dobwanwhat is the server for the US breezy apt update? I have it as us.archive.ubuntu.com.12:06
kamiro87in sub section display12:06
Lars_GSeveas: Did you also knew xchat wouldn't catch it without the http?12:06
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SeveasLars_G, knew but forgot12:06
Lars_GSeveas: May the gods bless the ussagle of middle click in linux12:07
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slack7384kamiro87: well, in the areas labled SubSection "Display" and where the Depth is marked 24, 16, and 15, add a "1024x768" and a "800x600" addition to the Modes if they already are not listed12:07
esaci downloaded grounation mouse cursors, does anybody know how to isntall them ?12:07
Seveaswell, actually 4, but it's 2 left and 2 right buttons12:07
slack7384kamiro87: ex -> Depth 2412:07
Seveasweird hp laptop layout :)12:07
dell500anyone know how to get dual displays (both crt, one on an LCD adapter) so it stretches the screen to both sides?12:07
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Seveasesac, probably: http://art.gnome.org/faq.php12:08
Silvestreplease12:08
slack7384kamiro87: Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"12:08
kamiro87depth 1?12:08
Silvestreubuntu in spanish?12:08
kamiro87ok adding12:08
Lars_GSeveas: Nice event12:08
SeveasSilvestre, #ubuntu-es12:08
Silvestrethans12:08
Silvestrethanks12:08
slack7384kamiro87: you don't need to add in depth one, but you can add it there too, just to play it safe ;-)12:08
SilvestreSeveas,12:08
Seveasslack7384, you know we have a pastebin to aid in theses things, do you? ;)12:08
kamiro87ok. so i just add a nother one exactly like depth 1 right after it?12:09
kamiro87only w thoes resolutions?12:09
hd420this is odd12:09
slack7384kamiro87: you don't need to add anything extra, just add the "1024x768" and "800x600" text in the Modes line12:10
kamiro87done.12:10
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inthenowhi12:10
inthenowhow do i remove totem without removing "ubuntu-desktop"12:10
vbgunzwhat I was really trying to accomplish was this. Browse to a file that needs to be edited as root but browse to it as a regular user... Once the file is found, right click on log in to editing that file as root... I think I found what I needed but sadly.. it's not working for me. I thought if I added the "run as a different user" it might make a difference but no go...12:10
Jowiinthenow: ubuntu-desktop is safe to remove.12:11
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inthenowJowi: what is it?12:11
Jowiinthenow: a dummy package as far as i can tell12:11
Jowiinthenow: to make updates easier12:11
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Seveasinthenow, wiki.ubuntu.com/MetaPackages12:11
dePOLLJowi: exactly. i'd think twice before i remove this meta package just to have one app less on my hdd but maybe hamper future (dist-)upgrades12:12
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slack7384kamiro87: Now testing the resolution will require a restart of X11, you can do that by pressing Ctrl + Alt + Bckspace, and then logging back in12:12
inthenowmy updates for breezy are saying they cant install xcommon because dpkg error having to do with xfonts-base12:12
Seveasinthenow, yeah x-common is broken currently12:13
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inthenowSeveas: does it mean if i shut down X i lose it?12:13
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Seveasinthenow, possibly12:13
Seveasyou picked a bad time to upgrade12:13
JowidePOLL: is it possible to remove a package without removing the "meta-package" as well?12:13
SeveasJowi, you can use equis to install a dummy-totem12:14
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dePOLLJowi: I guess --force-depends would do exactly that12:14
vbgunzI have a workaround for the meantime... I've added the "run as different user" to the right click menu for folders and files... When I wish to login to a file as root, I right click the item then type in "gedit pathto file" using the location bar as a reference... Wish I didn't have to type in the location though :)12:14
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monchisNEED HELP12:14
albinoDoes the ubuntu kernel in the latest release include alsa?  If so, how can I load it?  Whats the module name?12:14
JowiSeveas, dePOLL ah, okay12:14
dePOLLJowi: however your package database is inconsistent then. so creating a dummy package might be a good idea12:14
vbgunztyping in just the app would've been nice and less redundant ;)12:14
erUSULmonchis: don't shout at us then, and ask politely12:15
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toddwhats the best gmail notifier application?12:16
slack7384kamiro1987: did it work?12:16
dePOLLalbino: afaik all the ubuntu kernels include alsa. you have to load driver specific modules in order to get your soundcard working12:16
monchissorry erUSUL12:16
monchisI can't install linux on my pc, don't know what happens12:17
Knelix2Is there a temperature monitor for my CPU I can use inside GNOME?12:17
kamiro1987sorry. forgot to save file XD. when i opened xorg.conf again and scrolled down i saw something like what i typed only with more resolutions.12:17
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Seveasmonchis, a bit more info would help12:17
JowiKnelix: depends if the hardware is supported. lm-sensors is the package you are looking for12:17
Seveasaaaaaah12:17
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monchisI was trying to install Fedora Core 4 on my pc, which came on a DVD and I couldn't12:17
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erUSULKnelix xsensors or gdesklets (very buggy) or maybe gtkrml12:18
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Seveasmonchis, try #fedora12:18
monchisOn my PC it doesn't boot, but on my brother's laptop it did12:18
inthenowafter removing totem should i put the dummy package back in?12:18
ompaulmonchis, well something happens, you get to a point and consider that you have not been successful , what does it look like at that time?12:18
monchisI can't use that channel12:18
Lars_Gmonchis: .... you can't use that channel? why can't you use that channel?12:18
Seveaswell, don't ask in here, we don't support fedor'as coredumps12:18
monchisit says something like "#fedora Cannot send to channel"12:18
kamiro1987 cd /etc/X11/    then sudo gedit xorg.conf12:18
ompaulmonchis, #fedora for core12:18
ompaulmonchis, get ubuntu12:19
kemikmonchis:  download ubuntu and try that instead.. then you can ask in here ;)12:19
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ouroboroshow-to setup ATI All in Wonder Pro PCI Graphics driver on AMD64 w/ Ubuntu Hoary?12:19
inthenowhow long is it gonna take for the xcommon to be fixed12:19
monchishow can i talk on #fedora?12:19
Seveas!tell ouroboros about ati12:19
ompaulmonchis, no idea12:20
erUSULouroboros: what ati chip?12:20
slack7384kamiro1987: right on the money12:20
Lars_GThere's no ident clinet on the repos?12:20
Seveasmonchis, how should we know, this is not #fedora12:20
tritiuminthenow, time will tell12:20
kamiro1987its already there. along with 1,4,....12:20
Seveasnow either get ubunt and get support from here or leave...12:20
monchisok.. sorry then12:20
Lars_Gmonchis: ask in #freenode12:20
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Lars_Gmonchis: ask in #freenode12:20
kamiro1987all the way to 2412:20
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monchisthanx Lars12:20
ompaulmonchis, you will have to wait before they give you voice there12:20
slack7384kamiro1987: sounds good12:20
Lars_GNo ident client in the repos? I can't find ant.12:21
kamiro1987so i'm assuming it was like that frim the beginning..12:21
kamiro1987:-(12:21
ompaulmonchis, but it can be worth it - don't use caps12:21
SeveasLars_G, ident client?12:21
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monchisLars, at freenode it tells me "#freenode Cannot send to channel"12:21
slack7384kamiro1987: what was from the beginning?12:21
monchiswhat can i do?12:21
ompaulmonchis, you will have to wait before they give you voice there12:21
sorush20hello how can i type in Farsi persian in ooO.org 1.3 can someone help12:21
Knelix2 lm-sensors, xsensors or gtkrml then... where could I find these?12:22
Lars_GSeveas: duh?12:22
SeveasKnelix, in the repositories?12:22
SeveasLars_G, what do you mean with ident client..?12:22
kamiro1987the file i was supposed to edit. i forgot to save it. then i opened up the same file again and i saw that the stuff tiat i put in (but didnt save) was there in the beginning and i didnt see it because i didit scroll down12:22
slack7384kamiro1987: oh, i see.12:22
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slack7384kamiro1987: so the 1024x768 res was already there?12:23
Knelix2Seveas: Which one? I tried looking in the universe... hmm.. lemme look again...12:23
kamiro1987ya. but it doesnt come up in the resolution choosing windoe12:23
Seveas!info lm-sensors12:23
ubotulm-sensors: (Utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors), section utils, is extra. Version: 2.8.8-7ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 453 kB, Installed size: 1404 kB12:23
Seveasthat one is in main12:23
erUSULKnelix xsensors is in unverse12:24
erUSUL *universe*12:24
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slack7384kamiro1987: what is the make of your monitor? I've had the right resolutions listed before, but had X ignore those resolutions because the Horizontal and Vertical sync was wrong for the Monitor (eg Not to best performance specs)12:24
kamiro1987sceptre flat screen12:25
slack7384kamiro1987: model #?12:25
Lars_GSeveas: I want to check what my ident server is sending when queried12:25
inthenowwhats the best p2p program right now?12:25
Lars_Ginthenow: Bittorrent12:25
SeveasLars_G, ah, comprende12:25
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funkyHathow do i re-enable animated progress bars?12:25
kamiro1987doesnt say. the only thing is a part number. ct17w12:25
inthenowLars_G: you need a source though no?12:25
SeveasLars_G, telnet to port 113 and query it :D12:25
funkyHati'm sure i had them before12:26
Knelix2erUSUL: I cannot find it, even after searching for it by name.12:26
Lars_GSeveas: Sigh I'm not learning another raw rfc12:26
SeveasfunkyHat, afaik you need to recompile clearlooks12:26
Lars_Ginthenow: ?? yep12:26
SeveasLars_G, but it's fun :)12:26
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challWhat would cause gnome to not allow click and drag?12:26
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funkyHatah. ok12:26
funkyHatlol12:26
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albinodePOLL: Thanks12:26
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blekoshello12:27
Jowihi blekos12:27
blekoshow is life out there?12:27
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Knelix2erUSUL: All I found was gdesklets12:27
erUSULKnelix: apt-cache search sensors works for me12:28
slack7384kamiro1987: Monitor specs @ http://www.sceptre.com/Products/LCD/Specifications/spec_ct17w.htm12:28
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blekosi'd appreciate a bit of help12:28
Lars_GMan... these instant installs are so..... sweet12:28
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anile8I've just installed Ubuntu on an Acer Travelmate 280, but the resolution can't be changed from 640x480, any suggestions?12:28
blekosi tried to run the EasyUbuntu script and12:28
Lars_GI was so used to gentoo's compiling, that I became upgradeophobic12:28
blekosit messed my kde12:28
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blekosI like Gnome but I need few things from KDE12:28
Lars_Gblekos: Define messed12:28
blekoshmm12:28
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blekosuninstalled the whole KDE12:29
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blekosand now cannot apt-get it12:29
tristanmikeewww12:29
Lars_Gblekos: what happens when you try to apt-get it?12:29
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slack7384kamiro1987: I'm sorry, but I've got a call to go out of my office, so I will have to leave you.12:29
Seveas /kick Lars_G Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww12:29
blekosok here is the msg12:29
kamiro1987ah, ok12:29
kamiro1987its ok12:29
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slack7384kamiro1987: hope your problem gets resolved though.......12:30
Lars_Gslack7384: Bomb threat? we got one of these once.12:30
blekoskubuntu-desktop12:30
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blekosdepends:gwenview but it is not going to be installed12:30
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kamiro1987thanx for the help12:30
blekosi have all required repositories  enabled...12:30
kamiro1987:-)12:30
Lars_Gubuntu has joined ubuntu?12:30
kamiro1987hello. i'm a noob and i'm having problems getting a resolution above 640x48012:30
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slack7384Lars_G: no, it is a call for a meeting (est. 2 hrs!)12:31
Lars_Gkamiro1987: What video card?12:31
CookedGryphonhas anyone else got firefox 1.0.7 and nioticed problems with it?12:31
Seveaskamiro1987, pastebin your xorg.conf, pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl12:31
SeveasCookedGryphon, -> /topic12:31
tritiumCookedGryphon, /topic12:31
slack7384Lars_G: bye12:31
tristanmikeCookedGryphon, Me, it wouldn't load12:31
kamiro1987intel 740 agp12:31
slack7384Kamiro1987: bye, and good luck!12:31
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tristanmikeCookedGryphon, well, I would get the 'ole "Starting Firefox Browser" then poof, nothing, it was running but no window12:31
blekosany ideas?12:32
CookedGryphonhm, sry its a bit offtopic, but this room loads by default so..12:32
dePOLLeasy fix: uninstall the firefox package (dpkg -r --force-depends firefox)12:32
dePOLLkill your firefox processes12:32
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SeveasCookedGryphon, look at the end of the topic ;)12:32
dePOLLinstall the latest mozilla-firefox12:32
kekewolas12:32
dePOLLstart firefox. voila.12:32
kekehello all12:32
kamiro1987posted12:32
kekefirefox rlz12:32
sorush20How do I find out what Java firefox is using.. I seemed to have two types of java on my computer.. I ask this since I can't view the letters on a java application on this site.. http://bitaweb.com/fa/htmlEditor.html can someone help12:32
CookedGryphontristanmike, i can get it to load, but a load of my extensions.. oh i just read taht12:32
Seveassorush20, java -version12:32
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tristanmikeSeveas, rotflmao, that's funny12:33
dePOLLsorush20: about:plugins should do the trick (type it as an url and hit enter)12:33
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kamiro1987isong a sceptre ct17w monitor12:33
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kamiro1987using*12:33
Lars_Gapokryphos: What ident daemon do you use?12:33
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Lars_GDamn I have kernel-images comming out of my ears now, time to clean them up a little12:34
SeveasLars_G, debfoster and apt-get clean are your friends12:34
Lars_GSeveas: ye12:34
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BurgundaviaSeveas, why?12:35
kamiro1987?12:35
tristanmikeSeveas, what do they do?12:35
SeveasBurgundavia, because the rock at cleaning up :)12:35
Lars_GSeveas: Saddly you're not as reasonable as apokryphos, but since he's afk... what ident daemon do you use'12:35
Seveasapt-get clean clears out the apt cache12:35
Lars_G?12:35
BurgundaviaSeveas, say again?12:35
SeveasLars_G, pidentd12:35
Bicchianyone using gaim-guifinations? Why does the window does not rises when a contact signs in. I have it configured so that it shows up but its not working?12:36
Lars_Gsearcher`: Ok, thanks12:36
Seveas<Seveas> Lars_G, debfoster and apt-get clean are your friends12:36
Seveas<Burgundavia> Seveas, why?12:36
inthenowhow do i know if my printer is supported12:36
SeveasI assumed your message was in response to that...12:36
Seveasinthenow, by trying to use it ;)12:36
SeveasBicchi, guifications works fine for me here12:37
inthenowSeveas: oooh thats scary dude12:37
sorush20dePOLL: Seveas , I'm using libjavaplugin_oji.so is this the right one or not.. I just wnated to know why the site isn't showing th full java content.. here is the site. http://bitaweb.com/fa/htmlEditor.html12:37
Seveasinthenow, which printer>12:37
BerylliumWhat is Ubuntu's equivalent of RedHat's xorg-x11-devel package? I'm trying to compile Wine from source here, but it's damn near impossible to get all the required packages in place before starting12:37
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Seveassorush20, readlink -f /usr/lib/*firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin-oji.so12:37
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SeveasBeryllium, apt-get install wine :)12:38
Seveasif you insist on compiling: apt-get build-dep wine drags in all build dependencies12:38
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blekoshmm12:38
inthenowSeveas: Canon Mp36012:38
vbgunzdoes anyone know why drawers on panels *only* show up vertically? I added a menu to a drawer but everything seems to be lined up vertically... anyway to fix this?12:38
blekosany ever had a problem with easyubuntu script?12:38
Seveasforget rpm hell, appreciate apt and dpkg12:38
Seveasblekos, these scripts suck12:38
Seveasyou should not use them as they tend to screw up things12:39
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inthenowCanon told me to - myself about canon driver for linux for mp36012:39
blekosi had to know that in a bad way...12:39
CookedGryphono..k.. i think i jsut re-installed the firefox i already had.. but it works now anyway so i'm not complaining12:39
blekoscan I somehow undo it?12:39
Seveasprobably not12:39
BerylliumSeveas: I need to compile from CVS, because 20050725 doesn't work with the app I need to get working.12:39
SeveasBeryllium, then use the build-dep trick12:40
BerylliumThe compile errored out with "Unable to find X11/Intrinsic.h"12:40
apokryphosBeryllium: the X pack is libx11-dev, but the build-dep would indeed drag it in (and more)12:40
blekosis there any way you can "fix" problems?12:40
blekosto re-install ubuntu without loosing your settings?12:40
kamiro1987the live disk worked with the correct resolution.12:40
Seveasblekos, post the script on the pastebin, maybe it's undo-able12:40
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ompaul!tell blekos about pastebin12:41
blekoshow do I do that?12:41
Seveasubotu should just have told you12:41
ompaulblekos, read the message ubotu sent you12:41
ubotuSeveas: Do they come in packets of five?12:41
Seveasubotu, yes12:41
ubotuYes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thought it, eh, seveas?12:41
apokryphoskamiro1987: what's the problem?12:41
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ompaulhahah12:41
Jowiblekos: very easy if you have /home on another partition. There is also http://www.sysresccd.org/ that is brilliant. can ghost partitions and repartition etc.12:41
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kamiro1987cant het a resolution higher then 640 by 48012:41
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tristanmikeSeveas, you must have developed a strong bond with ubotu by now12:42
Berylliumpackage libicu28-dev cannot be found12:42
apokryphosubotu: tell kamiro1987 about res12:42
Berylliumthat's an unusual error12:42
apokryphosubotu: tell kamiro1987 about resolution12:42
apokryphoskamiro1987: check the PM that ubotu just sent you; it contains the fix.12:42
inthenowSeveas: you asked about my printer. should i look somewhere?12:42
Jowiblekos: but that assumes that you already made a ghost image in the first place :-P12:42
kamiro1987ok12:42
kamiro1987thnx12:42
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blekos:))12:43
Seveasinthenow, it's not yet listed on the (still incomplete) ubuntu compatibility list so best is to simply try12:43
blekoswhich I didnt12:43
ompaulBeryllium, that is in universe in breezy assume its there in hoary also12:43
Jowiblekos: might be nice to have though. i really recommend that rescue disk.12:43
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blekosthis is what i get: Depends: gwenview but it is not going to be installed12:44
blekosand dont know y...12:44
erUSULinthenow: linuxprinting.org12:44
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blekoscan I install it manually somehow?12:45
Gobbla!ipv612:45
ubotuGobbla: No idea12:45
Gobblagah12:45
vbgunzare there any better drawers for gnome panels than the current default drawers? I find the drawer very limited...12:45
Gobbla!tell Gobbla about ipv612:45
esacyay, breezy is finally behaving. updating to the -9 kernel seems to have fixed my random hang issues12:45
Berylliumompaul: I did a search in synaptic, no dice12:45
Gobbla!tell Gobbla about config a router12:46
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Gizmosishiya12:46
ompaulBeryllium, breezy?12:46
blekosany ideas how i can install manually   gwenview?12:46
Beryllium5.04, Hoary12:46
Gizmosisdoes anyone know how to get dc-gui source complied12:46
BerylliumI assume you mean that universe is a repository, I must not have it in my repo ist12:47
ompaulBeryllium, got universe enabled?12:47
SeveasGizmosis, why don't you use the ubuntu package?12:47
Berylliumompaul: I don't think so12:47
BerylliumHow do I12:47
Gizmosiswhat one of them12:47
ompaulBeryllium12:47
Seveasdcgui-qt is in universe or multiverse12:47
ompaul!tell Beryllium about repos12:47
ompaulBeryllium see the message that ubotu sent you12:47
Gizmosisis that what it called just apt-get it12:47
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Seveasyes12:48
dell500can someone help me with dual monitors on a ati 9600xt?12:48
Gizmosisi am just installing all of A*12:48
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Lars_G!universe12:48
ubotuask me about !repositories12:48
Lars_G!repositories12:49
uboturumour has it, repositories is at at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)12:49
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Gizmosisim using breezy12:49
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misfit-toywell, I got X half working after the latest borked upgrade, but no mouse, what is the keyboard shortcut to get to the apps menu?12:49
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Seveas<alt><f1>12:49
netstarWhen is breezy released?12:49
Berylliumthank you ompaul12:49
Seveasnetstar, oct. 1312:49
misfit-toythx Seveas12:49
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Seveasmisfit-toy, hint: /etc/init.d/udev restart12:49
ompaulBeryllium, np12:49
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sophie_Beryllium: Was your name tritium yesterday12:50
Berylliumno12:50
Seveassophie_, no, tritium is one of the ops in here :)12:50
BerylliumI've been beryllium since 2000 or so12:50
sophie_Beryllium: ok12:50
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PipeI'm having trouble configurin my adsl conn, In the network tools I dont have the add button to ad another protocol....Could anyone point me out where is the documentation on how to do this???12:51
misfit-toySeveas, still no mouse but prolly 'cause I edited xorg.conf earlier12:51
sophie_tritium: do u know what D20 does in life (tritium)12:51
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Seveasmisfit-toy, possibly12:51
LittleDanwhat repository has java in it?12:51
misfit-toySeveas, so should mouse point to /dev/mice now?12:51
SeveasLittleDan, breezy or hoary?12:51
Seveas/dev/input/mice12:51
Berylliumompaul: I assume that universe is rather large? :) Synaptic seems to be locked up, processing the list I would imagine12:51
LittleDanhoary (if that's 5.0.4)12:51
Berylliumah, there we go, now it's building the tree12:52
misfit-toyahh I have a mice there now, cool, thanks Seveas12:52
SeveasLittleDan, ubuntu.tower-net.de12:52
ompaulBeryllium, that would be it12:52
indypendeHi to all12:52
indypendei have a problem with sane in breezy12:52
hashheadzhi indypende12:52
inthenowMy printer printed with a non specific driver. does that mean the built scan function also works?12:52
indypendein hoary all was perfect12:52
hashheadzwhat is sane first12:53
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indypendebut now i can use xsane only with gksudo or i get not device!12:53
BerylliumDamn, that's a tad useless. I do "sudo apt-get build-dep wine" and all it says is something about fontconfig-dev and then it says that Wine's build deps are not satisfied.12:53
indypendewwhy?12:53
JairunCalothIf I setup an raid array, do the drives have to be the exact same size, or can I use a smaller partition on the larger drive?12:53
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ompaulinthenow, are you using breezy?12:53
hashheadzJairunCaloth:  u can use different sizes12:53
Beryllium(I'm trying to build Wine from CVS source)12:53
JairunCalothsweet12:53
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Gobbla!router12:54
ubotusomebody said router was a device used to connect multiple copmputers online at the same time, or wirelessly. It would be a box in between your modem and computer if you go by the wires.12:54
Gobbla!iptables12:54
ubotuGobbla: I give up, what is it?12:54
JairunCalothdoes ubuntu support software ide raid arrays?12:54
hashheadzif u can do the source u can install anything12:54
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BerylliumX11/Intrinsic.h - anyone know what package in Universe provides this file?12:54
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indypendenow i can use xsane only with gksudo or i get not device!12:54
robotgeeknice, the new pbbuttonsd has a feature. disable touchpad while typing12:55
DansFloydhey... i need help installing my ATI dirvers... casue the last time i tried i totally screwed my xwindows12:55
Seveasindypende, sudo adduser $USER scanner12:55
Gobblathat was an automated answer, right? :O12:55
apokryphosBeryllium: libxt-dev12:55
Seveas!tell DansFloyd about ati12:55
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LittleDanSeveas, so it's deb http://ubuntu.towers-net.de hoary main ?12:55
SeveasLittleDan, no just surf to that site12:55
Gobbla!iptables12:55
ubotuGobbla: What?12:55
Gobblawhat the...12:56
indypendeSeveas, The user `indypende' is already a member of `scanner'.12:56
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hashheadzyes it was12:56
SeveasGobbla, don't play with the bot12:56
Gobblai dont?!12:56
Berylliumapokryphos: Thanks12:56
BerylliumAny way I can find out that information for myself in the future?12:56
robotgeek!tell Gobbla about botabuse12:56
Seveasindypende, hmmm.... what's your scanner device? /dev/scanner?12:56
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hashheadz!tell Gobbla about Sex12:56
indypendeSeveas, hp scanjet 2300 c12:56
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kamiro1987it worked.12:57
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Gobblahow about telling me about iptables?12:57
kamiro1987thanx!12:57
indypendeSeveas, but with gksudo work perfect12:57
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Seveasno bot playing I said.12:57
Gobblai dont play, i want to know..12:57
kamiro1987does anyone know how to set up 2 screens with 2 different graphics cards.12:57
kamiro1987?12:57
LittleDanSeveas, thanks12:57
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Seveasindypende, no i mean the device node in /dev12:57
indypendeSeveas, mh?12:57
Beryllium!tell Beryllium about the urban legend that michael jackson had a rib removed so that he could fellate himself12:57
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indypendeSeveas, talk easy...italian!12:58
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Lizcan anyone tell me how to remove firefox without allowing the upgrade to upgrade itself?12:58
kamiro1987brb12:58
indypendeSeveas, talk easy...newbie(opps)!12:58
Seveasindypende, hehe, paste the output of ls -la /dev/scanner in a private chat12:58
indypendeok12:58
Lizive tried unselecting it in synaptic ..and its not working12:58
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Gobblacould a friendly soul make obotu trell me about iptables since he doesent like me?12:58
Gobbla*tell12:58
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SeveasGobbla, there are no factoids about iptables in ubotu currently12:59
Mirussais anyone else having trouble with upgrading to 1.0.7 of firefox?12:59
indypendeSeveas, no such file....12:59
Gobblaokay, thanks Seveas12:59
Seveaseasiest to do is to install an iptables frontend like firestarter or shorewall12:59
ompaulMirussa, have a look at the topic12:59
Gobblawhat i really wanna know is how to make a ipv6 router12:59
Seveasindypende, ok, then type this: ls -al /dev | /tmp/dev_list12:59
Lizomp, im not using any of the backports01:00
Seveasand paste the contents of /tmp/dev_list on http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl01:00
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Lizso that doesnt help01:00
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Mirussastop using old crappy backports?01:00
Seveas'navond apsync01:00
apsynchi01:01
blekosdo u know the meaning of:couldn't find package kubunto-desktop01:01
blekos?01:01
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indypendeSeveas, i can't01:01
apokryphosblekos: yes; you're typing it wrong01:01
Seveasindypende, why not?01:01
indypendeSeveas, it is correct this command01:01
Seveasblekos, you misspelled it01:02
blekosdon't think so01:02
Seveasit's kubuntu-desktop01:02
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Seveasnot kubunto-desktop01:02
apokryphosSeveas: know any reason why autocompletion isn't on by default?01:02
indypendeSeveas, bash: /tmp/dev_list: No such file or directory01:02
apsyncI have a weird error, when I start my pc I get, cannot start x server, cannot load module 'nvidia' (does not exist) I tried editing xorg.conf by changing nvidia to vesa, but still desktop is not loading, how can I download/install latest drivers via terminal or can I do something else?01:02
blekosi tried that and get the same meggafe01:02
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Lars_GSeveas: Will I be kicked if I insult users?01:02
p_jncohi01:02
robotgeekapokryphos: autocompletion where?01:02
p_jncoyes lars01:02
esacgrrrrrr im getting tired of my laptop freezing on me. i wish somebody could advise me what to do to help get this resolved. im worried that this issue will still be here when breezy is released01:02
SeveasLars_G, kicked and banned01:02
robotgeekLars_G: yep01:02
p_jncoanyone feel like helping me01:02
p_jncohey robotgeek!01:02
p_jnco=)01:02
robotgeekp_jnco: hey01:02
Lars_Gdamn, well thanks anyhow.01:02
p_jncou helped me yesterday01:02
blekosit's reading dependencies and building dependecy tree01:03
p_jncoanyone want to tell me how i can change my xorg.conf file01:03
p_jncoso that ..01:03
Seveasindypende, ok, then type this: ls -al /dev > /tmp/dev_list01:03
p_jncothe login screen isnt messed up01:03
Seveasindypende, sorry, ny stupid mistake01:03
p_jncobecause its too high of a refresh rate01:03
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Lars_Gp_jnco: Messed up?01:03
p_jncoi need to keep it at 7001:03
apokryphosrobotgeek: I think it's general bash autocompletion (not just for commands). Means you can use autocomplete on things like apt (I have it running here pretty well)01:03
p_jncoits at 75 for the login screen01:03
p_jncoand its blurry01:03
p_jncohz01:03
Lars_Gp_jnco: ah ok..... hmmmm01:03
Seveasapokryphos, look at ~/.bash_profile ~/.bashrc01:03
indypendeSeveas, your help is all i need... fantastic01:04
Mirussawell my upgrade to 1.0.7 went just fine on my other computer, and I'm getting some error about classic or something, I thought maybe it was related to my firefox theme perhaps?01:04
robotgeekapokryphos: i think i have it enabled to, .inputrc stuff right?01:04
indypendeSeveas, then?01:04
Seveassomewhere in there you enable it01:04
Lars_Gp_jnco: Have you set the refresh rate ranges for your monitor in the config file?01:04
Seveasindypende, that command worked?01:04
apsyncwhen I start my pc I get, cannot start x server, cannot load module 'nvidia' (does not exist) I tried editing xorg.conf by changing nvidia to vesa, but still desktop is not loading, how can I download/install latest drivers via terminal or can I do something else?01:04
indypendeSeveas, yes yes01:04
viclinuxok01:04
tristanmikeMirussa, I had problems today01:04
Lars_Gapokryphos: Bash includes it? I tought only ksh had it.01:04
Seveasindypende, good, now open /tmp/dev_list in a text editor and copy the contnts to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl01:04
indypendeok01:04
indypendeSeveas, just a moment01:05
Mirussatristanmike: you did? did you happen to resolve or are you still having problems?01:05
blekoshow i can see what is loaded in startup?01:05
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robotgeekp_jnco: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:05
apokryphosaha, yeah, it is bash completion01:05
tristanmikeMirussa, I would get the standard "Starting Firefox Browser" for a few seconds, then poof, nothing01:05
apokryphosSeveas, robotgeek: nah, I mean the one you get with  . /etc/bash_completion01:05
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indypendeSeveas, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/246901:06
Seveasapokryphos, it's in there!01:06
Mirussatristanmike: yes that is what is happening to me now too01:06
robotgeekapokryphos: i have that enabled too :)01:06
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vbgunzanyone know of the shortcut key for killing an app is?01:06
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apokryphosSeveas: yes, I know.. ;-). As I said, any reason why it's not on by default?01:06
Seveaspkill app-name01:06
apokryphosrobotgeek: cool :)01:06
Seveasapokryphos, it's resource-hungry01:06
tristanmikeMirussa, open System Monitor and end the firefox process01:07
Lars_Gvbgunz: In what desktop?01:07
apokryphoscould be at times I guess01:07
vbgunzGnome01:07
Lars_Gvbgunz: Not sure, sorry01:07
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vbgunzthanks anyway ;)01:07
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Lars_Gvbgunz: Use the command Seveas suggested01:07
Seveasindypende, sudo adduser $USER lp01:07
Mirussatristanmike: I did.. ended firefox-bin was the process that I ended.. and then retried it.. still same issue01:07
chavobash_completion + apt-get == :)01:07
tristanmikeMirussa, open synaptic and search for firefox and tell me how many packages are installed01:07
tristanmikeMirussa, my issue is resolved, but it was confusing on how I actually got it, but I'll help you as best I can01:08
indypendeSeveas, i've try but xsane don't run again01:08
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Mirussatristanmike: thanks for any help you can give me.. and I have 3 packages installed and they are listed as version 1.0.601:09
tristanmikeMirussa, what packs?01:09
vbgunzthank you seveas... was hoping a shortcut combination was available01:09
tristanmikeMirussa, that's good, less than I had ;)01:09
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gizmosishi01:09
indypendegizmosis, hi01:10
gizmosishow are u01:10
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Mirussatristanmike: firefox, mozilla-firefox and mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb01:10
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ben__hello01:11
apsyncwhen I start my pc I get, cannot start x server, cannot load module 'nvidia' (does not exist) I tried editing xorg.conf by changing nvidia to vesa, but still desktop is not loading, how can I download/install latest drivers via terminal or can I do something else?01:11
tristanmikeMirussa, try this, "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" and comment out the two backport address by using "#" save and then "sudo apt-get update"01:11
indypendeSeveas, i can't see no "scanner-like" device in dev_list... you?01:11
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Seveasindypende, it's a printer/scanner combo right?01:11
indypendeSeveas, no01:11
Seveasoh damn01:11
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arkanesapsync:run sudo nvidia-glx-config disable and restart x01:12
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Seveasok, new command: ls -alR /dev > /tmp/dev_list01:12
Seveasand after that paste the contents on the bin again01:12
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Mirussatristanmike: okay did that..01:12
tristanmikeMirussa, then "sudo apt-get remove firefox mozilla-firefox mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb" then "sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox"01:12
skel_is SUN JAVA on breezy cant fidn it in syanptic01:13
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Seveasskel_, blackdown java is there01:13
Seveassearch for j2sdk or j2re01:13
indypendeSeveas, it's a flatbed scanner, supported with the backend genesys01:13
vbgunzI have a general question... Is there a setting to make all windows remember there last position? XChat launches and cuts itself off with my lower panel... The terminal always launches in a little boxed window above all others... Image viewer always shows up with a crushed info tree... No matter how I modify these apps, they never open the way I closed them... is there a hidden setting somewhere for this behaviour?01:13
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PjkitHi there! Is anyone having troble updating to firefox 1.07 with aptitude?01:14
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QMarioBye Seveas, ompaul, and the rest!!! :)01:14
ompaulQMario, good luck01:14
SeveasPjkit, -> topic01:14
QMarioThank you, ompaul! ;)01:14
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Mirussatristanmike: yay! that worked.. thank you very much.. great work! :)01:14
vbgunzon Breezy, 1.07 works pretty good but believe I found a bug... If you right click an image on the web with firefox and select "set as desktop wallpaper" firefox will eventually close itself out01:14
vbgunztry it out, see if my bug is true01:15
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skel_wow thanks Seveas01:15
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indypendeSeveas, my scanner is here /proc/bus/usb/001/00301:15
tristanmikeMirussa, you can also "sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb" if you want too01:15
indypendei'm sure01:15
esacdoes anybody know the email address to mail the hardware list to (something like u?hd@ubuntu.com) ?01:15
indypendeSeveas, i'm sure01:15
tristanmikeMirussa, and no problem just spreading the help I received here, it's the least I can to01:15
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indypendeSeveas, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/247101:16
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tristanmike*do01:16
Lars_GDamn how many people are using backports?01:17
Mirussatristanmike: so that's what is meant by the backport topic?01:17
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vbgunzdoes anyone know how to close a window in a certain position and a certain size and when opening the application again, it shows up the way it closes? The way you wish to see it? Currently, it seems all apps show up as default... this is very annoying... any help or tips appreciated!01:17
blekosit is just not my day01:17
blekostried to start in failsafe to remove the damn program and install kubuntu but no lack01:18
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naliothblekos: what are you wanting to do?01:18
tristanmikeMirussa, I think, if I'm right, the backports are packages that are created by "we" the user so that they work with Ubuntu, but they are not offical, nor offically tested, and hence, may contain errors, I think don't quote me01:18
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blekosi installed easyubuntu in order to have the codecs loaded01:18
apokryphostristanmike: backports used to be third-party, but now there's official backports01:19
blekosbut instead it has removed the whole kde package and now01:19
PjkitAYUDA !!! Desempaquetando el reemplazo de mozilla-firefox-gnome-support ...01:19
Pjkitdpkg: error al procesar /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox-gnome-support_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb (--unpack):01:19
Pjkit intentando sobreescribir `/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/libmozgnome.so', que est tambin en el paquete firefox-gnome-support01:19
Pjkitdpkg-deb: el subproceso paste fue terminado por la seal (Tubera rota)01:19
PjkitSe encontraron errores al procesar:01:19
Pjkit /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb01:19
Pjkit /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox-gnome-support_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb01:19
blekosi cannot re-inst. it01:19
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PjkitE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)01:19
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PjkitArgghh! Algo malo pas mientras se instalaban los paquetes. Intentado recuperar:01:19
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Mirussatristanmike: ah, I see01:19
Seveasdamn, i'm gone for 3 seconds and some fool starts pasting01:19
tristanmikeapokryphos, and those I should use instead of the ones on ubuntuguide?01:19
naliothwow a spanish flood01:19
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tristanmikeMirussa, read apokryphos's comment above01:20
apokryphostristanmike: you shouldn't use ubuntuguide, really, at all01:20
HoxzerI hate the weather here in finland :(((01:20
naliothtristanmike: didn't i warn you about ubuntuguide earlier?01:20
blekosany ideas malioth?01:20
Hoxzerit really sucks01:20
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Mirussaapokryphos: we shouldn't? thats where I got mine.. where does one find the proper backports?01:20
Versedwhy?01:20
SeveasHoxzer, try texas...01:20
Versedrain?01:20
Hoxzer:E01:20
Versedhaha01:20
Hoxzer:D01:20
tristanmikeapokryphos, I know, but when I first installed Ubuntu in June, I was afraid of IRC casue I heard bad things about it, and that was the advice I got on the forums01:20
naliothblekos: what is easybuntu?01:20
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tristanmikenalioth, lol01:21
Seveasnalioth, a crap script from the forum fools...01:21
arkanesSeveas: I'm in baton rouge and my family is in houston :/01:21
naliothafraid of IRC?01:21
blekoseasy ubuntu is a script01:21
apokryphosnalioth: almost as bad as simpleKDE01:21
naliothoh no not the forum fools01:21
indypendeSeveas, have you see my paste?01:21
bipolarcan anyone point me to where I can get w32codecs for breezy?01:21
Seveasarkanes, ouch :| good luck the next days dude01:21
blekosseveas put it right01:21
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naliotharkanes: quit whining. i'm sittin in pasadena, tx right now01:21
apokryphostristanmike: hahaha, are you serious?01:21
dooglusapokryphos: bash auto_completion will be on by defaut in warty apparently.01:21
tristanmikenalioth, you're the cause behind all this trouble aren't you...shame shame01:21
Seveasbipolar, seveas.ubuntulinux.nl01:21
mrchicagoanyone use gambas any01:21
tristanmikeapokryphos, yeah, by the mods there01:21
arkanesSeveas: thanks01:21
apokryphosdooglus: warty is older version01:21
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apokryphostristanmike: that's hilarious01:21
blekosis there any chance to restore some of the original settings?01:21
apokryphosSeveas: did you hear that? ;-)01:22
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dooglusapokryphos: grumpy then?01:22
naliothblekos: what have you tried?01:22
dooglusI get them mixed up...01:22
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blekosi tried with synaptic01:22
blekosbut cannot get all dependecies work...01:22
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apokryphosdooglus: dapper is the version after breezy01:22
blekosi have chosen all repositories01:22
dooglusapokryphos: grumpy is the ongoing development version - grumpy groundhog01:23
naliothblekos: are you using official repositories?01:23
apokryphostristanmike: considering the majority of the developers (and certainly all the big ones) use IRC...01:23
felipe_Hello anyone knows which is the default password for the root user? I can't log in...01:23
bipolarSeveas, thanks!01:23
apokryphosdooglus: thanks, I know :)01:23
nalioth!tell felipe_ about root01:23
blekosyes01:23
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naliothblekos: remove kde-base01:24
dooglusapokryphos: ok.  you were asking about bash's completion.  i was trying to tell you.  it'll be turned on once breezy is out01:24
tristanmikeapokryphos, here is my first post after posting about installing ubuntu, i had trouble there too *blush* http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41806 this is where the problem started I guess01:24
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tristanmikeapokryphos, I know, but still, FUD has a large impact on people, you know01:24
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misfit_toyso Seveas are you a DEV?01:24
blekoskdebase is not installed...01:24
apokryphosblekos: what's the problem?01:25
misfit_toySeveas, great fix that udev thing, now, do I *not* do another upgrade? 'cause I see x-common sitting out there again...01:25
pdbimgetting an error when starting up about hardrive sectors containg errors help!!01:25
blekoskubuntu-desktop:01:25
blekos Depends: gwenview but it is not going to be installed01:25
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blekosthat is the problem01:25
apokryphosblekos: hoary?01:25
mrchicagohey i made a program to brighten amonitor in gambas how do i get it on sourceforge01:25
blekosnop01:25
blekos5.1001:26
apokryphosblekos: did you have kubuntu-desktop installed before you did a dist-upgrade?01:26
naliothblekos: is it kdebase or kde-base? just WHAT kde stuff do you have installed?01:26
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apokryphosnalioth: kdebase is the package name01:26
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blekosk3b, quanta & kontact01:26
blekosi had gnome01:26
funkyHati've just followed the drop shadows tutorial in the ubuntu wiki, and certain options for xcompmgr are causing X to crash... has anyone else had something similar happen?01:26
blekosi installed kde01:26
naliothblekos: get rid of all kde stuff01:26
blekoseverything worked fine01:27
funkyHatand managed to get it fixed{01:27
apokryphosblekos: you didn't answer my question :)01:27
funkyHat*?01:27
naliothblekos: actually, if you could do in reverse what got you into this mess01:27
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blekoscould not hear mp3 or play divx01:27
blekosand the script was suppoesed to install everything :((01:27
apokryphosyou're being pretty cryptic here01:28
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blekosi'll try to remove everything kde...01:28
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apokryphosblekos: you should install kde by getting kubuntu-desktop01:28
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apokryphosand when you upgrade to breezy, you should always have a buntu-desktop installed01:28
_jasonhi01:28
blekosthat's what I'm trying to do but :01:28
blekoskubuntu-desktop:01:29
blekos Depends: gwenview but it is not going to be installed01:29
apokryphosblekos: obviously before you didn't try installing kubuntu-desktop first01:29
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mrchicagoshiat01:29
blekosas u can see i cannot go any further since dependencies r not satisfied01:29
ericzwhen does breezy like officially come out or is there no date, just "sometime in october or november"01:29
ericz?01:29
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DaaJeHHello01:29
blekosi have tried...01:29
funkyHatericz, 13th of october01:29
tristanmikeericz, oct 1301:29
apokryphosblekos: that problem came about because you upgraded incorrectly, presumable01:29
opteekhow can i change the profile firefox is using??01:29
ericzoh alright01:29
blekosi had it all perfect b4 the bloody script01:29
_jasonI need some help installing java.  The forums have several different answers.  What do you recommend?01:29
boxerboy29rc comes out on oct 3 and final on oct 1301:29
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apokryphosopteek: I think it's an option from firefox --help01:30
dooglusfirefox -P01:30
nalioth_jason: hoary or breezy?01:30
apokryphosblekos: what script?01:30
_jasonhoary01:30
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dooglus(capital P)01:30
ericzwill shipit send out breezy cd's?01:30
blekoseasyubuntu01:30
apokryphosergh01:30
boxerboy29yes when the final comes out01:30
naliothericz: when they are available, yes01:30
felipe_where can I get the w32codecs? the apt-get is not finding them01:30
ericzalright, thanks01:30
boxerboy29yw01:30
apokryphosubotu: tell felipe_ about w32codecs01:30
bystander!w32codecs01:30
ubotuw32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs or breezy: seveas.ubuntulinux.nl. 64bit? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5439901:30
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DaaJeHI get this msg when trying to install libpng-dev01:30
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DaaJeHReading Package Lists... Done01:31
DaaJeHBuilding Dependency Tree... Done01:31
DaaJeHPackage libpng-dev is a virtual package provided by:01:31
DaaJeH  libpng12-dev 1.2.5.0-7ubuntu101:31
DaaJeHYou should explicitly select one to install.01:31
DaaJeHE: Package libpng-dev has no installation candidate01:31
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apokryphosSeveas: damn you, beat me this time 8)01:31
tristanmikefelipe_, or you could look here too01:31
tristanmikefelipe_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats01:31
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leopardhas that xfonts problem been fixed?01:31
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Seveasleopard, no01:32
leopard:-)01:32
indypendeSeveas, you leave me lone?01:32
misfit_toy I was reading somewhere in the ubuntu forums that someone had an "art-manager" app after installing breezy, I don't see this, does anyone else?01:32
misfit_toymisfit_toy for theming, etc...01:32
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boxerboy29i found out with all the repos you can get java plug in from synaptic01:32
cormoranohi01:32
Seveasindypende, sorry, was busy with 7 other things :)01:32
apokryphosboxerboy29: well, with a different one, yes.01:33
indypendeSeveas, ok01:33
puff./j2eesdk-1_4-linux.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory01:33
indypendeSeveas, sorry01:33
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puffHm.01:33
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Seveasincubii, but no idea what's going on there, I don't see a scanner device01:33
blekosi think i removed every k*01:33
blekosand now nalioth?01:33
sockpuppe1whats with firefox?01:33
red_bloodhello people! do you know a nice flight simulator for ubuntu?01:34
mrchicagoflightgear01:34
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Seveaspuff libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2: usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.301:34
mrchicagoand that rescue copter game01:34
_jasonboxerboy29, do you know which repo had it?01:34
mrchicagoworks great on my laptop01:34
boxerboy29i have all enabled01:34
bipolarSeveas, can I get an account for your repo?01:34
incubiiill assume you werent actually talking to me :P01:34
blekosdamn it no luck again...01:34
blekosit really get on my nerves01:35
apokryphosubotu: tell boxerboy29 abotu sunjava01:35
boxerboy29multiuniverse included01:35
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apokryphosboxerboy29: it's not in any of the Ubuntu-provided ones01:35
dalenewbee - I am getting the following error when updating  xcommon--- E: /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.08_all.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/X11/fonts', which is also in package xfonts-base...can someone help01:35
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Seveasapokryphos, note that he wants to use j2ee which is not supported by any of the option on the wiki/repos :)01:35
Seveasdale, known bug, just wait...01:35
sockpuppe1apokryphos whats wrong with the repo for firefox01:35
apokryphosoh01:35
puffSeveas: I only have libstdc++.so.5 and libstdc++.so.5.0.701:35
boxerboy29than im guessing it comes with the multis?01:35
apokryphossockpuppe1: what version of ubuntu and what firefox?01:36
WebLOCHhey Seveas01:36
Seveaspuff, then install the other version too01:36
sockpuppe1hoary/1.0.701:36
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Seveaslibstdc++2.10-glibc2.201:36
mrchicagoman tuxkart isnt running all that well01:36
blekoscan u pls tell me how i can see my start up file?01:36
Seveassockpuppe1, get rid of backports crud01:36
blekosmaybe there is smg there running...01:36
apokryphosSeveas: erm, nope, he just wants the java plugin I presume01:36
sophie_blekos: boot.log01:36
tristanmikesockpuppe1, firefox wont start?01:36
whyameyeany tips on installing the Java Virtual Machine under Wine with IE?01:36
sockpuppe1nope01:36
apokryphosboxerboy29: what is it you're looking for? Just the java plugin (for your browser etc)? j2re?01:36
blekoshmm01:36
blekosand how xctly i do that?01:37
Seveaswhyameye, you atually got IE to work with wine?01:37
WebLOCHSeveas, I did01:37
blekossorry newb round here ;)01:37
blekos:_01:37
apokryphossockpuppe1: nope?01:37
tristanmikesockpuppe1, I'll tell you how to fix01:37
boxerboy29i have j2re already i didnt know getting it from synaptic was bad01:37
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apokryphosboxerboy29: it's not01:37
sockpuppe1cool thing tristanmikw01:37
SeveasWebLOCH, neat, how :)01:37
daleSeveas --- thx...soon to be fixed???01:37
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whyameyeSeveas, yep. I run a script for it. It works great. I could try to remember where I got the script if it helps you.01:37
Seveasdale, hopefully01:37
apokryphossockpuppe1: remove the backports repository, remove firefox, then refresh your list and get firefox01:37
viclinuxjoin gnomehispano01:37
tristanmikesockpuppe1, , try this, "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" and comment out the two backport address by using "#" save and then "sudo apt-get update"01:37
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johcan anyone tell me what's happening with the nvidia drivers in linux-restricted-modules?01:38
Seveaswhyameye, it would help, I develop a lot of web pages which should be somewhat usable in IE too01:38
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WebLOCHSeveas, all i had to do was install wine, then install IE, I found a couple of ways of doing it, "wine-tools-sidenet" i think was the esiest way of doing it01:38
daleSeveas...where r u01:38
naliothblekos: are you being sorted?01:38
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blekossorry???01:38
whyameyeSeveas: let me look around and see if I can recall the steps. I'll let you know either way.01:38
_jasonIf I just want the JRE without the SDK where can I find it?01:38
tristanmikesockpuppe1, wait, do me a favor01:38
ZodiacHey guys, anybody figure out how to get their processor applet working at full speed with the latest breezy updates yet?01:38
naliothblekos: are you making progress?01:38
WebLOCHSeveas,  it was wine-config-sidnet sorry01:38
blekosnop :((01:39
apokryphosubotu: tell _jason about sunjava01:39
SeveasWebLOCH, ah, I tried to run IE from my ntfs disk where winxp is rotting :)01:39
WebLOCHSeveas, - http://sidenet.ddo.jp/winetips/config.html01:39
indypendeSeveas, look at this thread http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=8633401:39
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Lars_GZodiac: processor applet?01:39
blekosi doubt if i'll make any sense01:39
WebLOCHSeveas, I havent tried that yet01:39
Mirussaits amazing how many people are having the same problems with firefox01:39
indypendeSeveas, don't work for me but seem to be the answer for someone.01:39
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puffHm, never had a glibc dependency with the jdk before.  I wonder if I really want to install this one, or maybe I should install j2sdk-1_4_2_08-linux-i586.bin instead.01:39
apokryphosMirussa: it's generally down to evil backports01:40
Zodiacactually, my entire processor seems stuck at 500 mhz01:40
naliothblekos: did you remove aall the kde apps?01:40
WebLOCHSeveas, but it expects a windows drive to be set up with primary paths and all that so it would expect "C:\program files\IE\" to be its home dir, not "Windata\Program files\IE"01:40
sockpuppe1now what tristanmike01:40
tristanmikesockpuppe1, open synaptic and search for firefox and tell me how many packages are installed01:40
indypendeSeveas, it can be only a permission trouble!01:40
sockpuppe1tristanmike now what01:40
blekosbelieve yes01:40
apokryphospuff: you can just use the .debs01:40
ZodiacAnybody know what the hell I am talking about?01:41
sockpuppe13 packages01:41
mrchicagouh01:41
tristanmikesockpuppe1, ok,01:41
mrchicagothere isnt a program that bightend the monitor01:41
blekosi try to remove easyubuntu but it will not let me do so01:41
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boneefluxbox01:41
dalelooks like your busy Seveas...thx for the heads up...01:41
_jasonapokryphos, I added the repo but synaptic complains with an error message01:42
tristanmikesockpuppe1, , then "sudo apt-get remove firefox mozilla-firefox mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb" then "sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox"01:42
Zodiacblekos: are you talking about the new breezy updates??01:42
apokryphosblekos: can you pastebin this script?01:42
WebLOCHSeveas, do you remember who helped me with my audio problems yesterday?01:42
tristanmikesockpuppe1, those are the packs I assume...01:42
blekosi'll try...01:42
apokryphos_jason: can you pastebin it?01:42
p_jncohey kids, does anyone know how to default a refresh rate in my xorg.conf file01:42
boxerboy29zodiac i have a 450mhz processer and i have no problems with updates whats wrong with running at 500?01:42
p_jnco75 aint workin and i want it to run at 7001:42
p_jncoonly01:42
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_jasonapokryphos, i don't know what pastebin means sry im a noob01:42
p_jnco?01:42
apokryphosubotu: tell _jason about pastebin01:42
Zodiacboxboy29: umm nothing, unless you have a 1.6 ghz processor01:42
whyameyeSeveas: okay. Go to this site: http://sidenet.ddo.jp/winetips/config.html. Also, you have to install a newer version of Wine than what is in the Hoary repo. I have version 20050725.01:43
tristanmikeMirussa, yeah, well, I guess the update broke it for everybody01:43
nalioth_jason: type /topic01:43
p_jncodoes anyone know how to default a refresh rate in my xorg.conf file?01:43
ZodiacThe new update sucked01:43
p_jncoi know how to edit it01:43
p_jncoim just not sure what settings to change01:43
whyameyeSeveas: if I recall correctly, this sript wipes whatever you have setup already in Wine. Not sure if this can be avoided.01:43
indypendeSeveas, i've solved01:43
funkyHatanyone got composite working on the latest breezy?01:43
indypendeSEve:)01:43
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indypendeSeveas, :)01:44
indypendeSeveas, :)01:44
boxerboy29zodiac: you will find bugs with breezy its still in testing01:44
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tristanmikesockpuppe1, how you coming along there?01:44
Mirussatristanmike: thanks again for your help.. I have to dash.. take care.01:44
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Zodiacboxerboy29: yea I got that, thanks for your help... I was wondering though if anyone had a fix for this bug01:44
blekosit has *.deb xtension01:44
whyameyeSeveas: one more tip. Install the windows fonts.01:44
_n00blar_Is anyone having problems updating the x-common update package?01:45
tristanmikeMirussa, no prob, anytime01:45
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Zodiac_n00blar_: There are threads all over the forums about that01:45
Zodiaccheck there01:45
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_jasonapokryphos, here is my error message: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/247201:45
SeveasZodiac, forums won't help01:45
Seveasit's a bug that's being solved01:45
Zodiacwell it will help for the font one01:46
_rb_heyas. I want to copy a website and make it available offline. I then want to be able to chuck the thing on a laptop so i can use it on sites that i need the information. I dont want to use httrack, it dont work properly. Anyone know of a good fast one thats free i can use in ubuntu ?01:46
sockpuppe1ytistanmike it isnt working01:46
Zodiacbut not the other bigger one01:46
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SeveasZodiac, READ, that was not his issue01:46
Seveasand solutions from the forums ime generally suck01:46
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p_jncodoes anyone know how to default a refresh rate in my xorg.conf file?01:46
Seveas_rb_, wget --mirror01:46
ZodiacUmmm are you talking about nooblar?01:46
apokryphos_jason: hm, one sec.01:46
_jasonapokryphos, take your time01:46
ZodiacThe X font issue isnt the proccessor issue01:47
_rb_coo. ta Seveas01:47
Zodiacand there is a fix for it01:47
SpokeyDokeyHi everyone, I'm having a problem with the Weather Report panel program, it never updates, and I know another person who's having the same problem. Is this a problem with the program or the Weather Report server?01:47
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sockpuppe1tristan i figured it out01:47
SeveasZodiac, no it's the x-common issue from today and there is not yet a fix for it01:47
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tristanmikesockpuppe1, you commented out the backports?01:47
tristanmikesockpuppe1, what was it?01:47
cesarinok ladies and gentlemen, I destroyed my 64 bit version and came with the 32 bits version01:47
cesarinscrew buggy java & flash :P01:47
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boneewhat is the site for all the repositories01:48
Seveas!tell bonee about sources01:48
cesarin!tell bonee repositories01:48
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SpokeyDokey!tell bonee repositories01:48
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cesarinlp01:48
cesarinargh, clicked wrong window lol01:49
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tristanmikesockpuppe1, how did you fix it...?01:49
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GrannyTuxi gave up on 64 bit too01:49
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spackestso, I might be wrong, but /etc/postgresql/postgresql.conf sure doesn't seem to get honored in 5.04 for postgresql01:49
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spackestanyone here build that?01:49
apokryphos_jason: you didn't run apt-get update first?01:49
GrannyTuxwaiting for java and flash to work right01:49
Ravi`shave cd ubuntu01:49
sockpuppe1tristanmike its still toasted man01:49
_jasonapokryphos, no01:49
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p_jnconevermind got it01:49
_jasonapokryphos, do i have to?01:50
tristanmikesockpuppe1, what's happening, or not happening?01:50
apokryphos_jason: everytime you change your sources.list you have to, yes.01:50
sockpuppe1it doesnt start at all01:50
apokryphos_jason: so it can refresh the package list, basically.01:50
Earthenhow do i tell what version of xfree86 im running01:50
_jasonapokryphos, ok so just sudo apt-get update?01:50
apokryphosEarthen: unless you're on warty, you're running xorg01:50
apokryphos_jason: yup01:50
spackestjust trying to get tcpip_socket honored and it isn't working01:50
spackestdriving me nuts01:51
EarthenI'm on horey01:51
cesarinBtw, Im running in i386 mode, anyone knows what is the best core for my AMD athlon 64 3000+ ?01:51
EarthenOK I want to know what ATI driver to down load01:51
apokryphosEarthen: then you have Xorg01:51
apokryphosubotu: tell Earthen about ati01:51
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Earthenapokryphos, ok thank you01:51
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naliothcesarin: 68601:52
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cesarinnalioth: good to see you here again :>01:52
apsynchi, there was a tool that allowed me to access/read files in my ntfs partition/hd, what was that tool name/url again?01:52
naliothcesarin: only for a few01:52
tristanmikesockpuppe1, check synaptic for firefox again and see what's there01:52
apokryphosubotu: tell apsync about windowsdrives01:52
cesarinnalioth, I destroyed my 64 bit version since it was a pain in the ass to install java & other platforms, so Im now on i386, can you tell me how to switch to i686?01:52
_jasonapokryphos: now I want sun-j2re1.5 correct? and after I do this should I comment this repo out?01:52
cesarin*lol*01:52
naliothcesarin: in synaptic, choose the 686 kernel01:53
Seveascesarin, apt-get install linux-68601:53
Seveasand reboot01:53
cesarinok thanks01:53
apokryphos_jason: not vital to comment it out, but if you only want the j2re then it shouldn't really matter, yeah.01:53
Ravi`swas that have cd ubuntu01:53
Ravi`si need cd ubuntu01:53
Ravi`splease01:53
cesarinnalioth,  Seveas : thanks!, but for now, to install all the patches first01:53
cesarin^-^01:53
spackestguess I am trying to say that the postgres that ships with 5.04 for athlon 64 is busted01:53
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tristanmikesockpuppe1, oh, I might have missed something, sorry, open up System Monitor, and end the firefox process01:54
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apokryphosRavi`s: erm, what? You want the Ubuntu ISO?01:54
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cesarinapokryphos, : he seem to be using a translator01:55
sockpuppe1killed the process01:55
sockpuppe1now reinstall01:55
sockpuppe1?01:55
Ravi`s<apokryphos> Ravi`s: erm, what? You want the Ubuntu ISO? <-- no i need cd ubuntu for canada01:55
Ravi`si from indonesia01:55
felipe_Something really weird just happened, I cant open web pages and I when I try to ping any site I get ping: unknown host www.blabla.com01:55
apokryphosRavi`s: http://shipit.ubuntu.com01:55
tristanmikesockpuppe1, search synaptic again for firefox and tell me how many you have now?01:55
cesarinISO = image from a CD, so you burn it01:55
sockpuppe1tristanmike nothing01:55
Ravi`si need original01:56
sockpuppe1i removed it all01:56
Ravi`sman01:56
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tristanmikesockpuppe1, nothing?01:56
sockpuppe1i removed it01:56
apokryphoscesarin: they have *really* bad national connections in Indonesia; probably doesn't want the ISO.01:56
sockpuppe1so i must reinstall yes?01:56
tristanmikesockpuppe1, then "sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox"01:56
apokryphos*international01:56
WebLOCHSeveas, you still about ?01:56
Seveasno01:56
WebLOCHSeveas, damn you, get back here.01:57
Ravi`si have iso01:57
SeveasI'm going to bed :)01:57
cesarinapokryphos, : ic :/01:57
spackestand /etc/postgresql/pg_hba.conf too01:57
apokryphosRavi`s: from the above link, you can order CDs01:57
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Ravi`si have ubuntu iso01:57
cesarinSeveas,  have a good time there man01:57
cesarinSeveas,  dont forget to clean it :P01:57
apokryphosRavi`s: excellent!01:57
spackestanyone care about postgres? :)01:57
tristanmikeSeveas, sweet dreams01:57
hd420yep01:57
WebLOCHSeveas, before you go, do you remember who helped me get my audio working last time?01:57
Ravi`sand no cd riginal01:57
apokryphos?01:57
apokryphos'night Seveas01:57
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SeveasWebLOCH, http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/01:57
WebLOCHahhhhhh01:58
cesarinRavi`s, : try http://babelfish.altavista.com01:58
_jasonapokryphos: works great... thank you.01:58
apokryphoscool01:58
WebLOCHawesome01:58
sockpuppe1hey tristanmike I got it01:58
sockpuppe1!01:58
ubotuNo idea, sockpuppe101:58
tristanmikesockpuppe1, nice01:58
sockpuppe1and I have the latest opera installed01:58
tristanmikesockpuppe1, you can also "sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb" if you want too01:59
WebLOCHSeveas, sleep well and thanks01:59
sockpuppe1tristan im not british01:59
sockpuppe1lol01:59
tristanmikesockpuppe1, neither am I01:59
sockpuppe1lol01:59
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tristanmikesockpuppe1, but it was installed before, I did, just to keep things the same01:59
sockpuppe1out of uriosity, which is more secure firefox or opera01:59
sockpuppe1?01:59
spackestgood old /etc/postgresql/postmaster.conf is the only conf I see in my strace of /etc/init.d/postgresql startup01:59
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sockpuppe1i dont wanna start a flame war02:00
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naliothsockpuppe1: go to #ubuntu-offtopic and flame away02:00
cesarinnalioth,  btw, by any chance you remember the wiki url for activating the an intellimouse explorer v.3 on X11 ?02:00
apsyncwhat is the command to edit sound options?02:00
XenguyFF is free; that's what really counts IMHO02:00
Ravi`swww.padepokanlinux.cjb.net  <--- i like distribution distro linux02:00
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naliothcesarin: search the wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation02:01
cesarinwill do, thanks02:01
Ravi`sand colection distro Linux02:01
sockpuppe1nalioth im not starting a flame war02:01
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olhow can i verify my burned CD in windows?02:01
alexandroscould someone help me when I tried to upgrade to firefox 1.0.7 it failed and broke my current firefox installation02:01
sockpuppe1i just want a simple answer02:01
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apokryphosalexandros: comment out the backports in your sources.list, remove the firefox, and then reinstall02:01
jroessockpuppe1: I think it would depend a lot on what you consider "secure"02:02
jroessockpuppe1: most people in ubuntu world would probably tend to favor Firefox, though, considering it's open source02:02
naliothsockpuppe1: neither02:02
sockpuppe1thankis nalioth02:02
sockpuppe1and thanks jroes02:02
sockpuppe1thanks for the help folks02:03
jroessockpuppe1: a lot of evidence suggests that security through obscurity does not work as well as open source does, which would declare Firefox the winner02:03
alexandrosapokryphos: thanks, is there something wrong with the version of firefox?02:03
jroesnp02:03
apokryphosalexandros: the one in the backports, yes; it's often broken.02:03
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alexandrosapokryphos: thanks again02:03
apokryphosnp02:04
Ravi`s:)02:04
Plukif youre not affraid is this:02:04
Plukcd /var/cache/apt/archives02:04
Pluksudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite mozilla-firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb02:04
Plukis=use*02:04
blekosMAY I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION PLS02:04
naliothblekos: please02:04
_jasonok so that guy just had a problem with firefox 1.07... I just got prompted to update to 1.07, should I?02:04
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DromedarisAnyone succesfull runs nicotine?02:04
blekosthe lucky number of the lottery will be 7,8,12,34,5602:04
Xenguyblekos: not if you keep that up02:04
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apokryphosblekos: no shouting02:04
tristanmikealexandros, I will, been doing it all night, might as well not stop now02:04
blekosi do not know what i did02:04
blekosbut it worked02:05
Plukbut --force-overwrite i not a thing you should use lightly02:05
apokryphosblekos: #ubuntu-offtopic for unrelated discussion02:05
blekossorry for shouting02:05
DromedarisAnyone succesfull runs nicotine?02:05
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naliothblekos: keep the caps to a grammatically correct usage02:05
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Xenguyblekos: no, now many of us will /ignore you :P02:05
blekosi just wanted to share my excitement02:05
blekos:)02:05
boneewhat happen to w32codecs02:05
naliothubotu tell Dromedaris about repeat02:05
Xorlev_My dependencies are all messed up, and updating them doesn't seem to help. Any advice?02:05
blekospls pass the word not to use easyubuntu02:05
bipolarthe confilict in breezy between xfonts-base and x-common is a known problem, right?02:05
boneePackage w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.02:05
boneeThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or02:05
boneeis only available from another source02:05
boneeE: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate02:05
jroesbonee: you're running amd64?02:05
blekosif someone else has the same problem what i did is02:06
boneeno02:06
tristanmikeubotu: tell bonee about w32codecs02:06
blekosremove all kde things...02:06
naliothbonee: no pasting please, read the /topic02:06
jroesoh, then you just don't have all the sources02:06
blekosuninstall and install easyubuntu02:06
apsyncwhat is the command to edit sound options?02:06
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naliothblekos: so you are on your way installing kubuntu-desktop now?02:06
whyameyeSeveas: did you get my earlier messages about IE6 under Wine? BTW, it turns out that the Java runtime installs fine under Wine with a manual install...02:06
rubemhi there!02:06
apokryphosubotu: tell bonee about w32codecs02:06
rubemhi Seveas02:06
naliothblekos: throw the easybuntu out the window02:06
blekosgo to repositories and remove all irrelavant links and left the ones for my version02:06
blekosand then install kde...02:07
rubemhow do i install the mp3 codecs in ubuntu?02:07
blekosright away sir...02:07
cesarinDamn, cant find  any page in wiki about how to set the deadkeys or disabling them for the keyboard configuration02:07
naliothblekos: kubuntu-desktop02:07
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blekosit's gone...02:07
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nalioth!tell rubem about restricted02:07
tristanmikeubotu: tell rubem about w32codecs02:07
esacstill having random freezes on my breezy install02:07
jroesesac: I have a few random freezes myself, actually02:07
jroesesac: in hoary though02:08
cesarinnalioth, btw, I found interesting that Breezy 32 bits did detect my videocard and monitor out of the box02:08
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cesarinbut the 64 version didnt02:08
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jroesanyone freeze when just doing something random like scrolling in firefox and clicking at the same time?02:08
blekosthank u gues for putting up with me...02:08
apsyncwhat is the command to edit sound options?02:08
Xorlev_Also, with the X upgrade from repos, do they work okay?02:08
blekosdo u have any suggestions for firewall?02:08
apokryphosblekos: yes, no need to consider one.02:08
jorgp3firestarter is a good firewall02:08
blekoshahah02:09
blekoslol02:09
blekosthat's y i like linux02:09
Xorlev_blekos: Use iptables. Firestarter is a nice GUI frontend though02:09
Xorlev_iptables comes standard.02:09
blekosdamn, it's 3 in the morning here...02:09
Chii_ChanCan I get some help? >.<  Ive managed to get ndiswrapper to allow my computer to detect the lan card.  It can also detect networks... but past then I am unable to actively use my lancard >.<02:09
cesarinXorlev, : is Breezy vulnerable to internet atacks as for now?02:10
naliothblekos: ubuntu (and most linux distros) have no need for 'firewalls', being open source, theres nothing calling the maker02:10
blekosdo u use antvir?02:10
Ravi`shelp download bootable for ubuntu02:10
boneeapokryphos: how do i install it02:10
naliothcesarin: it is not02:10
naliothblekos: no viruses known for linux02:10
apokryphosblekos: antivirus for what exactly?02:10
cesarinRavi`s, : go to www.ubuntu.com and click on "DOWNLOAD"02:10
apokryphosubotu: tell blekos about linuxvirus02:10
apokryphoshm, now what was that factoid..02:11
Gobblathere are viruses for linux too :)02:11
Ravi`stx friend02:11
alexandroshey, if I try to remove firefox it tries to take ubuntu deskttop with it02:11
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blekossorry guys to interupt did u get a message for new kernel install??02:11
cesarinalexandros,  isnt it cute? very strong love & stuff :P02:11
naliothblekos: the only reason a linux user would want to run an antivirus is to scan any files he wanted to send his windows-using-grandmother02:11
naliothalexandros: that is fine02:11
blekoslol02:11
blekos:))02:11
blekosyes i know the % of viruses... etc02:11
apokryphosubotu: linuxvirus is <reply> The short life and hard times of a Linux Virus http://librenix.com/?inode=2102:12
ubotuokay, apokryphos02:12
blekosjust never used to run without any... :)02:12
Plukubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage.. i container thats lists all kinda packages thats needed to install the whole ubuntu thingy02:12
cesarinbtw, anyone here knows the keys to add to xorg.conf , for adding "deadkeys" option for the keyboard?02:12
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Plukif you remove the container you wont loose all you programs02:12
apsyncubotu tell me about w32codecs02:12
apokryphosapsync: you can /msg too :)02:13
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apsyncoh ok :)02:13
Chii_ChanAnyone here know much about ndiswrapper?02:13
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jrattner1How do i enable my SSH server02:13
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apsynchow can I get an account at seveas.ubuntulinux.nl ?02:14
XorlevQuestion: Recently I've been getting dependency problems on all sorts of things...any way to fix these? Such as for libqt3-dev: Depends: libxft-dev but it is not going to be installed.02:14
!lilo:*! I'm heading out... power keeps going off and on and I want to save power for the phone02:14
apokryphosapsync: he's asleep now, so his server is probably down02:14
!lilo:*! Wish me lock.02:14
apokryphosapsync: but, go here: giannaros.org/tor/bt/02:14
!lilo:*! Erm, luck :)02:14
apsyncah02:14
puffHm, my machine has started swapping like crazy.02:14
alexandrosblekos: firestarter is easy to usse02:14
puffWonde rwhat's sucking up all the ram.02:15
blekosi just installed it02:15
boneeubotu tell me about w32codecs02:15
apokryphosbonee: you can /msg ubotu {factoid} too =)02:15
apsyncbonee, you can msg too :D02:15
apsync:P02:15
naliothjrattner1: install "openssh-server"02:15
blekosbtw where can i have some instr. on installing the codecs for mp3 divx etc?02:15
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Xorlev!tell blekos about w32codecs02:16
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apokryphos!tell blekos about mp302:16
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XorlevQuestion(again): Recently I've been getting dependency problems on all sorts of things...any way to fix these? Such as for libqt3-dev: Depends: libxft-dev but it is not going to be installed.02:16
apokryphosXorlev: are you on breezy?02:17
blekosis there any background (short of wallpaper) that can show earth moving?02:17
Xorlevapokryphos: Hoary.02:18
apokryphosXorlev: it's often good to get to the source of the problem; i.e. check libxft-dev and keep going02:18
blekosnot a screen saver, something like active desktop02:18
apokryphosXorlev: any other information? When did the problems start?02:18
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Xorlevapokryphos: I tried it last week with another package set, it just led me in circles. ie: Dependency hell.02:18
XorlevAbout two weeks ago.02:18
apokryphosXorlev: I doubt it took you in circles; it likely gets down to one02:18
MindChildCan someone help me with remastering a livecd? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6859402:19
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XorlevI'll try running down libqt3-dev and report back here.02:19
picolehi,02:19
boxerboy29ok im trying to install realplayer plug in for firefox i downloaded it and the file is executable but terminal tells me no file by that name02:20
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boneeubotu tell me about install02:20
XorlevAhh...thus the crux of the problem. Depends: libfontconfig1 (=2.2.3-4ubuntu7) but 2.3.2-1 is to be installed.02:20
poningru!install02:20
ubotuwell, install is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation02:20
WebLOCH!tell WebLOCH about alsa-source02:21
boneeubotu tell me about tar02:21
apsynchow can I install .deb files again? something like 'dkpg'02:21
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poningrubonee: did you not just see the format WebLOCH used?02:21
NsOmNiAcdpkg -i02:21
poningruunless I am being an ass02:21
poningrusorry02:21
picolei have just upgrade firefox from 1.0.6 to 1.0.7,but i find that my firefox can start,anybody can help me?02:21
boneehow do i install a tar file02:21
NsOmNiAca tar file ?02:21
NsOmNiAcyou don't install a tar file02:22
boneetar.gz02:22
WebLOCHbonee use !command to issue commands to the bot02:22
NsOmNiActar -zxvf decompresses it02:22
Xorlevtar -zxf file.tar.gz - Extracts a tarred and gzipped archive.02:22
boxerboy29how do you install .bin files? apt-get install dont work02:22
Chii_Chanwhat exactly does the -zxf part do?02:22
WebLOCHlike this     !tell bonee about install02:22
esaci am trying to do a "make gconfig" for the kernel and it complains that it needs gtk+ 2.0. i installed libgtk-2.0, libglade-2.0 and libglib-2.0 .. still complains it cant find gtk+2.0 .. any idea ?02:22
boneei'll seee if that works02:23
cesarinesac,  sometimes it works to uninstall and reinstall it02:23
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Plukesac, you prlly need libglib2.0-dev02:23
cesarinit happened with some libraries when tried to compile the NTFS drive mounter for linux02:23
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ebdainJust finished installing Hoary (AMD64) onto an Athlon 64 system.  Installed fine, boots fine, shows login fine.  I put in login info, get the login noise, tan/brown screen, and then nothing.  Keyboard is frozen, mouse works, no HD activity.02:23
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Xorlevapokryphos:  Depends: libfontconfig1 (=2.2.3-4ubuntu7) but 2.3.2-1 is to be installed. It seems that 2.3.2-1 is installed, but it needs 2.2.3-4ubuntu7, and trying to force it down tries to remove bunches of packages including KDE.02:24
blekoscannot get thw w32codecs...02:24
p_jncothat sucks ebdain02:24
blekosi get a msg for being obsolete...02:24
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esacPluk: ill give it a shot02:24
ebdainTell me about it.  Any thoughts on how to find out what's freezing it?02:24
Ravi`show to setting ipconfig02:24
apsyncwhere can I download gstreamer0.8-mad ?02:25
cesarinebdain,  you sure there arent problems with the keyboard?02:25
Ravi`shelp command for setting ipconfig system console02:25
cesarinebdain: i've noticed quite a few errors in the 64 version that I didnt see in the 32 bit02:25
apokryphosXorlev: why is 2.3 trying to be installed? What extra repositories do you have?02:25
cesarinlike claiming that my "AGP APERTURE CONFCLITS WITH MY PCI MAPPING"02:25
apokryphosblekos: I gave you the factoid earlier02:25
ebdainthe whole thing freezes.  I never see the desktop.  Just the brown/tan screen that shows right after login.  The mouse still works, but I don't get any further.02:25
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alexandroshey, firefox is still not loading02:26
Xorlevapokryphos: backports, extras, and kubuntu updates.02:26
Plukesac, also libglade2-dev and libgtk2.0-dev, but i thouglt liglib2.0-dev depended on those02:26
esacok.02:26
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ebdaincesarin - this is actually my second AMD64 build up.  The first one never gave me trouble (but the hardware was on loan)02:26
apokryphosXorlev: disable backports and try again02:26
Chii_Chanbbl >.<02:27
Xorlevapokryphos: Is there a way to force 2.2.3 without removing KDE?02:27
cesarinebdain, : no idea, maybe some diferent hardware on it? like a extrange chipset that made the linux go "BURP" ?02:27
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apokryphosXorlev: you don't want to force, ideally; will likely break apt, if it installs02:27
XenguyHi - I want to run a 1-line command after every time this laptop boots.  Is /etc/init.d/skeleton the best place to start?02:27
ebdaincesarin - that's what I'm wanting to figure out.  This AMD system is completely different from the first one, but it all installed and booted fine.  Something during Gnome loading is bombing.02:27
esacpluk: thanks, installing all of those worked02:27
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Ravi`shelp command to console for setting ipconfig02:28
ebdainbut I don't know how to find out *what* is bombing.02:28
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Plukyw esac02:28
Xorlevapokryphos: Same thing02:28
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cesarinso it just bugs inside gnome?02:29
alexandrosso there is no more backport extras?02:29
apostoliaspera02:29
ebdainSeems like it.  I can put in the login info, so X is loading ok.  Just after that, I get the Ubuntu login music/noise and then it just stops.02:29
Xorlevapokryphos: Trying to install libqt3-mt-dev gets this: Depends: libqt3c102-mt (=3:3.3.3-7ubuntu3) but 3:3.3.4-3 is to be installed. And the other one about libxft-dev.02:29
naliothalexandros: breezy is not complete. backports depend on the current version being finalized02:29
apokryphosXorlev: quite a pickle02:30
cesarinnalioth, : you remember what was that program to access and mount NTFS volumes in ubuntu ?02:30
Xorlevapokryphos: Indeed.02:30
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nalioth!tell cesarin about ntfs02:30
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boneehow do i install a .deb02:30
Xorlevsudo dpkg -i file.deb02:30
cesarinnalioth, thanks again!02:31
_blakequestion... would it be possible to install breezy and not have to reinstall all of my rediculous drivers (ie. video card, wireless drivers, etc? ))02:31
Xorlevapokryphos: Any ideas how to fix it? Or will I have to reinstall my entire system? Or will upping to breezy help?02:31
apokryphosXorlev: it's essentially down to a couple of trouble-makers (packages), it's fixable, but probably not that easy02:31
alexandrosI am not on breezy I am hoary02:31
alexandrosI am not on breezy I am on hoary02:32
apokryphosXorlev: no point reinstalling your entire system; breezy is just around the corner02:32
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Xorlevapokryphos: So installing breezy should help if not fix it completely since its replacing pretty much everything?02:32
tiglionabbithi02:32
cesarinapokryphos, actual users of breezy will have to just install updates to get to the "release version" ? or they do have to reinstall everything again?02:32
apokryphosXorlev: quite sure it would fix the problem, yes.02:33
Xorlevapokryphos: I can bide my time then.02:33
tiglionabbitwhen can I start ordering CDs to get the official Breezy release?02:33
apokryphoscesarin: not sure I understand the question02:33
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naliothcesarin: apt-get is designed to keep you up to date02:33
cesarinapokryphos, : I mean that I have breezy atm.. the release candidate...02:33
apokryphoscesarin: doing an update is like doing a reinstall of a package -- you install different .debs02:33
apokryphoscesarin: ok..02:33
cesarindoes that mean I have to install everything from scratch?02:33
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cesarinIe, when the REAL breezy comes out02:33
naliothcesarin: i've had warty on this particular machine and havent used a cd since (for an install)02:33
cesarinbut I think nalioth just answered02:33
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apokryphosXorlev: I'd tell you to update right now, but you might have X problems (which people lately are complaining about), and can be tricky situation if you don't know exactly what to do02:34
naliothcesarin: apt-get is a great and powerful friend02:34
cesarinnalioth, Ic, thank you, so I supose everything is done by the synapsis02:34
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punkrockmcduckHow do I enable printer sharing in ubuntu?02:34
cesarinor.. the apt-get02:34
apokryphoscesarin: yes, you just dist-upgrade to it02:34
blekosapokryfos what u gave me returns-following the instr. of the link-package w32 codecs are not available02:34
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punkrockmcduckI have files shared through samba with my windows machine but I want it to also be able to use the printer, but it gets access denied when i try to use it.02:34
apokryphoscesarin: synaptic can do it too, yes.02:34
cesarin15 secs :D02:34
nightaircan I safely remove *.deb in /var/cache/apt/archives ?02:34
cesarinnalioth,  ty again02:35
mrchicagohey i got another program to work02:35
naliothnightair: you can, but not recommended02:35
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Pluknightair, sudo apt-get clean will do that for you02:35
naliothnightair: use the 'clean' option with apt-get02:35
Pluk:)02:35
nightairokok thanks02:35
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_jasoni just updated and now my firefox is broken, can anyone help?02:36
nightairnice. it worked; all clean now :)02:36
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tiglionabbithey guys, are they using the disc art some of the artists made?02:37
alexandroshave anyone had sucess installing realplayer using apt-get?02:37
Xenguynightair: 'apt-get autoclean' can be useful02:37
alexandrosrealplayer 10 that is02:37
apokryphosalexandros: it's not in the repositories02:37
apokryphostaken out of hoary-extras, at least (which is where it was)02:38
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apokryphosmight be some third-party repo with it somewhere, but doubtful02:38
punkrockmcduckanybody know what I have to do to allow my printer to be shared? file sharing works but no printer.02:38
WebLOCHawesome it works again02:39
WebLOCHir woooorks02:39
tiglionabbitdoes anyone know about the ubuntu cover art?02:39
tiglionabbitfor breezy I mean02:39
tiglionabbitI'm curious02:39
alexandrosapokryphos: I know that but I can't find realplayer 8 bin to use what is in the repositories.02:39
tiglionabbitI plan on handing some of these CDs out.  I want to know what they'll look like02:39
apokryphosalexandros: realplayer 8 is in multiverse02:39
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picole_jason,me too ,i have just do what you do ,and the result is just the same02:40
nightairx-common update for Breezy still conflicting with another fonts package right?02:40
alexandrosapokryphos: is that the one that requires you to have the bin file to install?02:41
apokryphosalexandros: nope02:41
charm__nightair: yup02:41
_jasonpicole i just solved it with kairu's help02:41
_jasoncan i pm you?02:41
apokryphosalexandros: it's in the repositories; make sure you have multiverse and you can get realplayer 8 (at least)02:41
nightaircharm__, ok thanks02:41
picolecan you tell me how to sovle02:41
picolethanks02:41
alexandrosapokryphos: I do have it but it is not listed there02:43
MindChildCan someone help me with remastering a livecd? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6859402:43
apokryphosalexandros: please pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list then02:44
kairu0is there a "data on the fly" music burning app for gnome yet? i really dont want to install k3m...02:44
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nightairredundant loading of some kernel modules what's a good way to track that down? as in I flip to Ctrl-Alt-F1 and I see some insmods of modules that are already loaded02:44
jroeswow02:45
MindChildJesus christ ... is insmod still used?02:45
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naliothkairu0: in breezy will be serpentine02:45
psusihas anyone successfully used gparted to resize an ntfs partition?  it doesn't seem to work in the breezy preview... click apply and nothing happens02:45
alexandrosapokryphos: pastebin?02:45
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cesarinI wonder why it keeps refusing to install x-common on breezy :P02:45
kairu0nalioth, serpentine can do that in breezy perview?02:45
jroesI installed ubuntu one time on this box, and grub wouldn't start.  then I reinstalled all over again with LILO, and it just says "L 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99"02:45
cesarinpsusi, I prefered to use partition magic :P02:46
MindChildjroes: Lilo didnt install02:46
apokryphosalexandros: check the link ubotu just gave you02:46
_jasonapokryphos, can i pm you02:46
apokryphossure02:46
psusi1) you have to pay for that and 2) in years past, the 3 times I or someone I know who tried to use it, got their partition trashed02:46
jroesMindChild: but.... I ran the LILO installer... ?02:46
misfit_toyso is x-common still borked if I do the latest update?02:46
MindChildbut... it didt work02:46
cesarinpsusi:you actually want to pay? :P02:46
jroeshmm, as this is the second failure, is there something I should do to try to check my drives and fix any errors if possible?02:47
naliothkairu0: my serpentine segmentation faults when i try to run it02:47
naliothkairu0: ymmv02:47
psusiof course not... which is why I'm not using it02:47
alexandrosdo it now02:47
psusiwell, and more importantly, I don't trust it to not fuck up02:47
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cesarinand pmagic never failed me so far :P02:47
MindChildjroes: sometimes lilo is a whore... thats why most distos have a manual and an auto isntall02:47
jroeshrmph02:48
jroeswell I think maybe this might be something02:48
jroesit has a really old shitty trident 4mb video card02:48
kairu0nalioth, ok02:48
jroesand when I run the ubuntu installer, it crashes on the first attempt for a second - something about framebuffer unsupported02:48
jroesand then it blinks back in again and displays properly02:49
nightairmisfit_toy, they've told me it's still borked02:49
misfit_toynightair, thanks02:49
MindChildjroes: thats not your issue02:49
jroesit flashes only for a brief moment so I can't be exactly sure of what it says02:49
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jroeshmm.  well then I'm thinking there is some type of hardware issue - I just don't know what I should run/do to attempt to troubleshoot it02:49
nightairMindChild, what's replacement for insmod?02:49
psusimodprobe02:49
MindChildjroes: Your card isnt specifically supported by the framebuffer driver (old/no VESA), so it uses VGA02:49
jroeslike maybe just some partition table corruption or something that can be taken care of with something nice02:49
MindChildnightair: modprobe... insmod is like... 2.0 kernel days02:50
nightairpsusi, ah indeed, of course. I knew that :)02:50
alexandroswhat to do after I paste it?02:50
MindChildjroes: your system is still there... just get lilo working02:50
nightairBreezy is somewhere calling some insmods of some modules then it reports back already loaded. any advice on tracking that down02:51
jroeshrmph.  any ideas?  just try installing it again?02:51
benkong2apokryphos; I am doing a breezy upgrade on my amd k8 machine get an error "/var/cache/apt/archives/php-html-template-it_1.10-3_all.deb E: sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code(1)" What does it all mean? Won't go past this error lacks 1234 files for install/upgrade.02:51
MindChildjroes: sure02:51
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jroesI don't know, it just seems like if grub fails, and lilo fails, there's some hardware issue, but I'll try again if you think that might help02:51
MindChildjroes: maybe a bad block on your MBR02:51
jroesI wasn't able to figure out how to run it by itself, something about needing to set the /target, and it won't let me run through the partition table edit stuff without formatting02:51
apokryphosbenkong2: did you apt-get update first?02:51
benkong2apokryphos; yes followed the wiki docs exactly02:52
apokryphosbenkong2: any errors in apt-get update?02:52
benkong2apokryphos; none02:53
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_n00blar_Just an FYI for those with ATI cards that are running Breezy and have gotten the latest updates...those X patches overwrite libGL.so file. Easy fix..reinstall the ATI drivers to fix the problem.02:53
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apokryphosbenkong2: and this error is on dist-upgrade? Could you pastebin a bit more of that?02:54
cesarin_n00blar_,  and how do you reinstall them?02:54
alexandrosapokryphos: what to do after I paste it?02:54
apokryphosbenkong2: also, did you check that you had ubuntu-desktop before you did the dist-upgrade?02:54
apokryphosalexandros: produce the link in here02:54
benkong2apokryphos; I did not check ubuntu-desktop prior to dist-upgrade02:54
apokryphosbenkong2: that's a necessity, really02:54
_n00blar_cesarin, use Synaptic to re-install xorg-driver-fglrx package02:54
nightair"Where Do you Want to Go Today?" :S02:55
benkong2ok let me do that first02:55
cesarinthanks02:55
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apokryphosbenkong2: can cause serious problems on your system if it's not done; the dist-upgrade depends on the metapackage to have a smooth upgrade02:55
apokryphos(i.e. what's obsolete, what's new etc)02:55
benkong2can I just walk back through the steps again.02:55
apokryphosthat's all sorted through the metapack, generally02:55
apokryphosbenkong2: did it start installing things?02:55
apokryphosif so, then probably not02:55
benkong2yes02:56
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apokryphosbenkong2: you sure you don't have it? dpkg -l|grep ubuntu-desktop  ...gives?02:56
benkong2n02:56
xxxxx /server irc.reventaweb.com02:56
xxxxx/server irc.reventaweb.com02:56
xxxxx=/02:56
benkong2apokryphos;  hold on02:56
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benkong2apokryphos; returns nothing02:57
apokryphosok, you don't then02:57
benkong2apokryphos; gheech hope this doesn't make me have to reinstall02:57
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apokryphosbenkong2: maybe have a whack at trying to install ubuntu-desktop now02:58
benkong2apokryphos; ok working....02:58
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cesarinbrb02:59
cesarinrestarting02:59
dabaRWhy is my firefox not working? /topic :)02:59
dabaRI am just joking...I dont use firefox, if you did not get that.02:59
apokryphosdabaR: you'd be surprised by how many have asked so far :P02:59
dabaRaha, ok.02:59
nightairbeen hearing a lot of people with firefox issues I guess after the 1.0.7 update is that just something with Hoary because 107 update went smoothly on Breezy for me03:00
kairu0dabaR, you must use IE 3.003:00
dabaRkairu0: the debian sensible browser.03:00
apokryphosnightair: it's because of backports03:00
kairu0dabaR, sensible browser? hmm03:00
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test34kairu0, a web page on a CD ask me to roll back to netscape 4.003:00
kairu0lol03:01
dabaRkairu0: thats a fancy name for epiphany afaik.03:01
durtopera is now free yay!03:01
test34(from a book bought this year)03:01
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kairu0anyone got shockwave to work in any browser?03:01
kairu0durt, using it right now!03:01
nightairapokryphos, ah so like some people were trying to run 107 early before the official ubuntu 10703:01
apokryphosdurt: hopefully open too, in the future :). A stretch, but who knows.03:01
dabaRdurt, do you have a article about that?03:01
naliothkairu0: i use galeon. i dont understand the fixation on firefox03:01
durtim sure you can find an article somewhere dabar03:02
nightairfirefox rocks my body03:02
alexandrosapokryphos: here is the link03:02
apokryphosnightair: yes; it's of course do-able, it's just that backports is often broken with FF packages03:02
dabaRdurt: and this is something new?03:02
alexandrosapokryphos: here is the link http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/247303:02
apokryphosalexandros: ok; sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install realplayer03:02
durtdabar, i found out yesterday, i think it happened within the past couple of days03:02
kairu0dabaR, http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20050920/tc_afp/norwayinternetsoftware03:02
apokryphosalexandros: you didn't have to put a screenshot :)03:03
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apokryphosalexandros: and, er, synaptic shows it there. Not sure I understand the problem -- it's there.03:04
dabaRI could try using opera for a little. kairu0, thanks.03:04
apokryphosdabaR: Opera is indeed great03:04
apokryphosit's definitely the browser with the most, "ooo, that's convenient" isms03:04
kairu0dabaR, its pretty good!03:04
MindChildopera is ass03:05
alexandrosapokryphos: look at the description03:05
alexandrosapokryphos: in the picture03:05
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apokryphoshah03:05
nightairOpera, I read their free version just got rid of ads03:05
dabaRdoes it work with keywords in the address bar?03:05
apokryphosalexandros: pretty annoying that they'd have the pack there. Weird.03:05
apokryphosnightair: correct03:05
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durtdabar: "keywords"?03:06
EarthenI just installed the ATI fglrx-control panel how do I run it? anybody03:06
MindChildtry 'sudo chmod -R 000 /'03:06
kairu0dabaR, download the debian sid version if you get it. the ubuntu version is broken on breezy03:06
dabaRdurt: like, I type in ubuntu, and it seraches the web using google for that.03:06
dabaRkairu0: I use hoary:P off course.03:06
durtdabar, yeah it has that03:06
alexandrosapokryphos: do you have any suggestions?03:06
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EntrancedHello03:06
test34in breezy, if you drag a window in the workspaces switcher to the middle of 2 workspaces, it disapear from the workspaces switcher03:06
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test34is that a bug03:07
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EntrancedI just ran apt dist-upgrade and I'm getting this error.. E: /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.08_all.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/X11/fonts', which is also in package xfonts-bas03:07
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cesarinEntranced,  I'm getting the same too03:07
Entrancedx-common fails03:07
poweruserHello I'm having problems trying to install drivers for my Matrox g200. Anybody care to help?03:07
nightairtest34, that sounds interesting. I'm too scared to try it here though03:08
durtkairu0, the ubuntu version works, but it says it wants libqt3c102-mt. are you saying the debian version works without this error?03:08
test34entranced, I had the same problem, you need to tell apt to overwrite03:08
_n00blar_Entranced, the forums tell you how to fix it03:08
dabaRwhen it crashes, does opera ask you to restore tabs once you restart it?03:08
Entrancedkew03:08
dabaRFor example, When you log out instead of closing it.03:08
test34nightair, it dont disapear from the desktop, just from the workspace switcher03:08
alexandrosapokryphos: I am still getting the samw thing thru apt-get03:08
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kairu0durt, yes. the debian version is satisfied with libqt3-mt (which is in the breezy repositories)03:08
_n00blar_Entranced, just do a search for x-common in the forums03:08
Entranced_n00blar_, which forums ?03:08
nightairtest34, you mean like the little thumbnails it shows in the switcher?03:08
durtkairu0 thanks03:08
test34nightair, yes03:09
apokryphosMindChild: don't give silly advice please03:09
apokryphosalexandros: yes, it's a dummy package03:09
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poweruserPretty please? :)03:09
_n00blar_Entranced, go here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=68500&highlight=x-common03:09
nightairtest34, oh I dunno. I changed my switcher to show "1,2,3,4" instead of thumbnails. but that disappearance thing does sound troublesome. maybe it's a gnome bug03:09
Entranced_n00blar_, Sweet ..thnx03:10
benkong2apokryphos; ubuntu-desktop went off without errors? try the apt-get dist-upgrade now?03:10
apokryphosbenkong2: cool! Yes03:10
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test34nightair, if you drop the thumbnail in the middle of 2 workspace, it disapear03:10
poweruserAnyway when I'm trying to install the driver using sh install.sh being root it prompts me with the following03:10
poweruserCurrently installed driver is the same as the installer file.03:10
poweruserX server driver not installed.03:10
poweruserCurrently installed file is the same as the installer file.03:10
powerusermga_hal_drv.o is not installed.03:10
benkong2apokryphos; cool upgrading....//:-)03:10
alexandrosapokryphos: so there is no hope of getting a deb package to install real player?03:10
naliothpoweruser: do not paste03:10
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Gobblapaste.ubuntulinux.nl use that poweruser03:11
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powerusermeh03:11
poweruser:P03:11
poweruserI need help03:11
apokryphosalexandros: not really03:11
apokryphospoweruser: so ask, but don't flood03:11
toolboxubuntu!03:11
nightairtest34, maybe ask in gnome channel too. see if it's distro specific or maybe anyone with gnome 2.12 suffers from it too03:11
fmasiHi is ther enny profile manager i could use to swith network configurations ?03:11
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alexandrosI tried downloading the rpm and converting it to deb but that did not work!03:12
toolboxhere we are on Friday night dudes.03:12
toolbox:-)03:12
Gobblasaturday here..03:12
Entranced_n00blar_,  great fix...03:12
nightairtest34, maybe info for finding out at  http://gnomesupport.org/wiki/index.php/IrcChannels03:13
toolboxGobbla: your ok then :-)03:13
toolboxyou are03:13
Gobbla:)03:13
toolboxover here, no life at all03:13
Gobbladidnt do shit friday either so :)03:13
Entrancedcesarin, try this to fix the problem...It worked for me: sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.08_all.deb03:13
alexandrosanyone had success installing realplayer from a deb package?03:13
toolboxhehe03:13
Gobblarealplayer... plz03:13
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alexandrosapokryphos: thanks for your help03:14
test34nightair,  I will check03:14
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nightairalexandros, I haven't tried debs for Real I installed from the real.com linux installer03:15
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cesarinwell I did what entrance told me and its fixed :>03:15
cesarinbtw, whats the command to see the kernel's version?03:15
test34entranced, Sep 23 16:34:59 GoRoDeKtest34,  cd /var/cache/apt/archives/ and next do  dpkg -i --force overwrite x-common_1.08_all.deb03:15
nightaircesarin, uname03:16
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test34entranced, Sep 23 16:34:59 GoRoDeKtest34,  cd /var/cache/apt/archives/ and next do  dpkg -i --force overwrite x-common_1.08_all.deb03:16
cesarinthx03:16
cesarintest34,  that works to fix the x-common problem03:16
benkong2apokryphos; rats here is the pastebin got the same error. http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/247503:16
Entrancedyup03:16
nightaircesarin, uname -a :p03:16
cesarinbut you have to download the  x-common file :o03:16
cesarinthx nightair03:16
alexandrosnightair: does that method put an entry in the installed programs database?03:16
cesarinok, got the 686 version installed :>03:16
test34cesarin, if you get the error, you probably have the file03:16
dr34mc0d3ri currently have a ATI Rage Pro 128 (pci) - I just got an nvidia mx400 64meg AGP x4 - I install the hardware and boot up - i get a nasty blue screen err0r saying that X-Server cant start and to fix the problem and reboot....is hardware detection in ubuntu not so good? What can i do to use my nvidia card??03:16
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cesarintest34, well yes, fixed already :P03:17
apokryphosbenkong2: looks like a problem with that specific package. Try removing it [temporarily] 03:17
benkong2apokryphos; k03:17
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apokryphosbenkong2: heh, I missed the first part03:18
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nightairalexandros, as far is will apt / synaptic see Real as being installed? not sure. probably not..not sure about the installed database though or where to check. it at least did put the icon in gnome menu though :-/03:18
apokryphosbenkong2: it's the only package having problems... you have breezy :)03:18
krittyHey all.... I'm getting an error about xfonts not being able to update.... any ideas?03:18
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benkong2yes the only package03:18
alexandrosnightair: ok thanks03:18
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boneehow do i read mail in ubuntu03:19
Entrancedkritty, is it the x-common error ?03:19
boneeit say i got mail03:19
boneebut where03:19
toxicleboman_: use mutt03:19
toxiclebonee: use mutt03:19
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jroeshm03:19
dr34mc0d3rbonee - go to a terminal window and try "mail"03:19
jroesdoes e2fsck -c -v -p /dev/hda1   check the MBR?03:19
cesarinbtw, anyone knows in what multiverse address appears the Sun's java or the blackdowns?s03:20
cesarinand yes, I already cheked the Wiki's java page :P03:20
cesarinso dont toss me ubotu :P03:20
toxicleis there a ncurses way of enabling/disabling services?03:20
nightairalexandros, I didn't see any Real package in Breezy official repositories and I'm not using any backports (yet) so I just used the real.com installer. I dunno if that was the ideal move though. the player works at least.03:20
naliothcesarin: do you want java?03:21
test34cesarin, JRE ?03:21
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cesarinnalioth,  just for firefox :O03:21
naliothcesarin: hoary or breezy?03:21
cesarinbasic java console03:21
cesarinbreezy, 32 bit 68603:21
cesarinnalioth, trashed the 64 bit version, :P03:21
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test34https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java03:22
cesarintest34,  you didnt read what I wrote earlier, did you? :P03:22
toxiclenoli: i'm on hoary ... which java package should i install for firefox?03:22
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apokryphoscesarin: http://giannaros.org/tor/bt03:23
test34cesarin, where did you see ubotu03:23
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elad`My pointer is really slow, and setting the sensitivity to maximum in Preferences -> Mouse doesn't help. Ideas?03:23
alexandrosnightair: do you know how to uninstall it when the time comes to upgrade?03:23
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chizanghowdy, i'm having some problems with rhythmbox not recognizing mp3s. is this the appropriate channel or should i go poking about in #gnome?03:23
apokryphos!mp303:23
ubotufrom memory, mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support03:24
toxiclechi, i got the same problem with ya03:24
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apokryphoschizang: this is the apropriate place; check that provided link.03:24
nightairalexandros, good question. I had wondered that too. I just assumed there's some uninstall flag to add from commandline but I'll try to verify for us.03:24
cesarintest34, : ubotu trows you to wiki's03:24
kairu0yeah that link will definitely help you03:24
fossai am trying to compile something but ./configure says 'checking for dcc... no'   but synaptic shows gcc IS installed  ?03:24
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test34cesarin, it says to build your own java03:24
naliothfossa: install "build-essential"03:24
apokryphosfossa: sudo aptitude install build-essential03:24
toxicleone question guys ... why does my XMMS hang when i try to play a song?03:25
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toxicle!xmms03:25
ubotufrom memory, xmms is to get xmms to work in Ubuntu Hoary, set the output plugin to eSound (right-click on the XMMS window, then choose Options -> Preferences)03:25
chizangapokryphos: thx for the pointer, i'll check it out.03:25
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cesarinapokryphos,  thanks man, downloading from there03:25
fossaok thanks a bunch. for some reason when i installed ubuntu then gcc on my laptop, it worked fine.03:25
apokryphosnp03:26
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dabaRtoxicle: congratulations on answering your own question within seconds.03:26
red_blood!ubuntu03:26
ubotuubuntu is, like, totally, an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'. see !awards03:26
toxicledabaR: thanks :)03:26
alexandrosnightair: ok, thanks I will here waiting03:26
jroeswow.03:26
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jroesI experienced a lilo error code that isn't even listed in the user docs03:26
red_blood!awards03:26
ubotu[awards]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubunturocks03:26
red_blood!gaim03:26
uboturumour has it, gaim is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GaimHowto/03:26
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dabaRred_blood: they are arsTechnica awards.03:27
red_blood!kde03:27
ubotuA powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hoary/03:27
dabaR!+msg the bot03:27
uboturumour has it, msg the bot is please message the bot in private, he accepts private messages from registered nicknames(/msg nickserv help register). In order for everyone to get better help, do not clutter the channel with many !commands, please. /msg ubotu keyword, or especially if you do not know whether some factoid exists.03:27
test34!wine03:27
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cesarinwondering if there is a trillian-like  gaim.. I dont like giam at all, looks like aMSN copy03:27
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apokryphosGuys, /msg to investigate with the bot03:27
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apokryphoscesarin: there's Kopete03:28
dabaRcesarin: maybe you can skin gaim.03:28
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dabaRcesarin: well, mayybe not too, but...03:28
cesarindabar: so gaim is skinneable?03:29
test34how can you change the default icon size ?03:29
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test34(on desktop)03:29
jroeswah03:29
cesarinapokryphos, : and you think kopete is .. hmm.. stable?03:29
jroeslilo-installer is in a deb03:29
jroesand I can't install a deb from that command line can I03:29
dabaRcesarin: no, not really.03:29
apokryphoscesarin: entirely stable, of course.03:30
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cesarinapok: thanks, might take a look at it :>03:30
dabaRjroes: you are playing withy fire, it seems. dunno how to fix it, tho.03:30
bipolarcan I force install x-common over xfonts-common to get the updater to quit annoying me?03:30
kairu0what is the date for the breezy release?03:30
dr34mc0d3rjroes - sudo dpkg -i package_file.deb03:30
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dabaRnight apokryphos.03:31
kairu0chizang, nice use of "hose"03:31
dabaRkairu0: the 13th is what keeps being repeated.03:31
dr34mc0d3rjroes - greate resource - http://ubuntuguide.org/03:31
naliothdr34mc0d3r: please dont advise ubuntuguide03:31
cesarindabaR,  I know but about TAB, but sometimes it has too many nicknames for x-chat03:31
cesarinand it just puts a list of nicknames03:32
dr34mc0d3r:( - ok03:32
naliothcesarin: use irssi03:32
kairu0dabaR, thnkx03:32
cesarinnalioth, : im on X03:32
digitizeyeah even though irssi is a cmd line client03:32
cesarintheres a irssi version for X?03:32
digitizeit's very easy and very nice to us03:32
naliothcesarin: AND?03:32
jroesnalioth: what's wrong with ubuntuguide?03:32
digitizecesarin: it's cmd line03:32
digitizeopen up a terminal03:32
cesarinnalioth, ill stay with this ;)03:32
dabaRcesarin: add another letter, then try again.03:32
digitizecesarin: that's not a wise move03:33
digitizeirssi is 10000x better03:33
test34!ubuntuguide03:33
ubotuubuntuguide is, like, totally, out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.03:33
cesarindigitize, not dumb, used irssi because x-chat text was crap :P03:33
cesarinand when X was down03:33
digitizeand hell, it's easier to move around windows03:33
jroes!faq03:33
ubotu[faq]  The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy)03:33
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digitizecesarin: and you don't like it?03:33
dr34mc0d3rahhh - ok....03:33
dabaRlater03:33
cesarindigitize, just feel like in the old MSDOS days03:33
jroesah, I used !faq in privmsg by accident03:34
cesarinand it makes me shiver ;)03:34
benkong2what would cause my breezy upgrade not to put the entries in /boot/grub/menu.list file it rebooted fine it's just into the old kernel so no new boot screen etc.03:34
dabaRnalioth: get out of here...03:34
jroesbut apparently you can't use the command char in msg03:34
digitizeeh, all right03:34
cesarinbtw, .deb packages can easily be installed with pkg right?03:34
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digitizeyes, for the most part they should be compliant03:35
cesarindpkg -i <name of package> right?03:35
digitizeyes03:35
dabaRcesarin: you should install almost e4verything using the apt package management system, from the oficial repos.03:35
dabaRotherwise you are on thin ice.03:35
cesarindabaR,  triying to install "FLASH" and "JAVA"03:35
chizangcesarin: i would do a dpkg -e first to see what the control scripts will do03:35
cesarinand they dont seem to appear in the synap's default 9 repositories03:35
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dabaRflash is in apt. java is not, but the debs from that torrent are supposedly safe. I would not even trust that. you can make your own debs with the official .bin from sun.03:36
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gt500Does anybody know why my video games, such as TuxRacer are running incredibly slow?03:36
cesarinchizang, : the w32 codecs .deb package appears to do nothing03:36
MaDsKiLLzgt500, have glx enabled03:37
MaDsKiLLz?03:37
dabaRgt500: yes, you dont have a graphics card like me.03:37
nightairalexandros, I really don't know for certain. me personally when the time comes I will probably just remove the program folders manually or for update I might just reinstall over top. it may find itself and update. sorry I can't say for sure03:37
gt500MaDsKiLLz: Where is that?03:37
dr34mc0d3ri currently have a ATI Rage Pro 128 (pci) - I just got an nvidia mx400 64meg AGP x4 - I install the hardware and boot up - i get a nasty blue screen err0r saying that X-Server cant start and to fix the problem and reboot....is hardware detection in ubuntu not so good? What can i do to use my nvidia card??03:37
MaDsKiLLzanyone if breezy has debug symbols enabled or something03:37
naliothcesarin: open a terminal and type "ls /usr/local/lib/codecs/03:37
chizangcesarin: they get extracted to a DEBIAN/ directory (just in case you weren't looking in the right place)03:37
nightairalexandros, I did search on google for answers but nothing too clear.03:37
MaDsKiLLzi cant figure out why my pc is running so much slower now that i've upgraded03:37
cesarinnalioth,  going...03:37
dr34mc0d3rim also experiancing slow video response03:37
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cesarinchizang,  gotta check that too03:37
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alexandrosnightair: I have been searching the web it sems that alot of people are asking this question to which there seems to be no answer03:38
cesarinnalioth, : empty directory or missing03:38
gt500MaDsKiLLz do you know where that is??03:38
ardchoilleHi. is 5.10 (breezy) a development version? Should I wait for a more stable version before downloading?03:38
naliothcesarin: get your w32codecs here giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/03:39
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gt500MaDsKiLLz please help03:39
cesarinnalioth, I just downloaded them via torrent03:39
naliothcesarin: sorry not there http://giannaros.org/tor/bt/03:39
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cesarinapok got me a link for a bitorrent site03:39
kairu0yeah! thank god for dri.freedesktop.org! my opengl looks nice again!03:39
cesarinand I downloaded both JAVA &  w32 codecs from there03:40
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gt500cesarin torrentspy.com03:40
naliothcesarin: then you've got them installed03:40
nightairalexandros, I think maybe their .bin installer just places itself in a folder like in /usr/local or something. then might also create symlink or place plugin into browser plugins folder like firefox if u have it or if u accepted real plugin.03:40
benplautbleh03:40
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cesarinnalioth, not yet, I got the file, but thats why I Was asking the command to install them03:40
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gt500Can anybody tell me why my graphics card is running games incrdibly slow03:40
cesarinthen I wondered if it was dpkg -i <deb file name>03:40
MaDsKiLLzare breezy's binarys stripped?03:41
naliothcesarin: in a terminal, "sudo dpkg -i install file.deb"03:41
cesarinand chizang  recommended me to check first the "control"03:41
axlhow do i install javac?03:41
gt500Does anybody know why my video games, such as TuxRacer are running incredibly slow?03:41
chizanggt500: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html03:41
gt500k03:41
jroesargharghargh03:41
jroesok03:41
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jroesI'm at a console that you can use during the install - I need to install lilo03:41
jroesI was thinking possibly using dpkg, but dpkg isn't in the path and I can't seem to find a binary anywhere03:42
cesarin"errors found durring 'install' "03:42
cesarinvev03:42
cesarinbrb03:42
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Christophe971hello03:42
WebLOCHOpera was installed by default!03:42
fmasiHi can some one tel me how to start a service in ubuntu i use to use the redhat system03:42
nightairalexandros, I see on mine there is link  /usr/bin/realplay -> /usr/lib/real/realplay and it seems the program lives in /usr/lib/real03:42
gt500When I run a simple video game, it lags like crazy, does anybody know what this is; possible graphics drivers???03:42
Christophe971just a question from a french man03:42
Christophe971what does "human beings" stand for ?03:43
Christophe971what does it means ?03:43
jroespeople03:43
sproingiegt500: glxinfo | grep direct03:43
test34Christophe971, un tre humain03:43
sproingiegt500: does it say Yes or No?03:43
WebLOCHmeans not the french!03:43
Agrajagnow that's not nice03:43
gt500hold on03:43
WebLOCHI was only joking03:43
test34ou les tre humains03:43
Christophe971test34: oki03:44
cesarinnalioth, : thepackage doesnt seem to like melol03:44
gt500sproingie under direct rendering??03:44
ongsterhello, i have a question about audacity.  How come it can't export to mp3?03:44
gt500sproingie it says "no"03:44
nalioth!tell ongster about restricted03:44
WebLOCHongster, MP3 is a restricted format, theres a good chance you can03:44
sproingiegt500: that's your problem.  you have no 3d accelleration03:44
gt500sproingie how do I put that on03:45
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sproingiegt500: what kind of card do you have?03:45
gt500geforece fr 520003:45
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gt500fx03:45
cesarinnalioth, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/247603:45
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sproingiegt500: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia03:45
nightairalexandros, ok also I see the log /usr/lib/real/install.log it tells what was done03:46
cesarinand Damn these ppl, they stoped seeding the bitorrent for java >_<03:46
fmasican some one tel me how to start vsftpd as a sevice in ubuntu (new at ubuntu)03:46
WebLOCHcesarin just download the binary from sun03:46
naliothcesarin: go to www.mplayerhq.hu the downloads page has an 'essental package'03:46
durtdabaR: i dont logout without closing opera; but you can choose whether to restore the tabs or not i guess03:47
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j0nas`is breezy relatively stable?03:47
WebLOCHno03:47
j0nas`or should i wait till RC comes out03:47
WebLOCHyes03:47
j0nas`i am excited03:47
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test34j0nas`, you should wait if you dont want any problems03:47
`psychohi ppl03:47
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durtunless he is having problems that might be alleviated in breezy03:48
j0nas`i am actually03:48
toolbox`psycho: hello03:48
j0nas`sound card issues03:48
WebLOCHdurt not really worth the chance03:48
WebLOCHj0nas`,  whats your card?03:48
j0nas`i have an audigy card plus an onboard sound processor03:49
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j0nas`meaning on the motherboard03:49
Digo_RPguys03:49
test34after the automatic updates, my X wouldnt boot03:49
j0nas`i cant get xmms, beep, anything to work03:49
Digo_RPplease, I have install ubuntu amd6403:49
j0nas`i got some sound out of totem once03:49
test34(or start on boot)03:49
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Adrossin hoary, if you have gaim on one workspace, and are working on another, clicking on the gaim icon or on a guification will take you to gaim's workspace.03:49
AdrossIn breezy, clicking on the gaim icon or a guification brings the app to your workspace.03:49
AdrossIs there anyway to change this?03:49
j0nas`but otherwise whatever app tries to use it freeze right up03:49
WebLOCHj0nas`, i can run you thru what i did03:49
durtin breezy ive had an easier time with sound cards and no noticeble problems03:49
j0nas`okay03:49
Digo_RPhow could I install sun-j2re1.503:49
WebLOCHlets move to pm03:49
j0nas`that would be great03:49
Digo_RP?03:49
`psychobefore i run into anything...can somebody tell me what's teh UTC time03:50
WebLOCHDigo_RP,  go download the binary from sun03:50
`psychoi thought that's GMT+003:50
Digo_RPtnx03:50
gt500sproingie it says comand not found03:50
Adrossutc=gmt03:50
`psychoi c03:50
`psychothen can u explain this03:50
sproingiegt500: did you go to that site?03:50
`psychoLocal time is now: Sat Sep 24 03:49:21 CEST 2005.03:50
`psychoUniversal Time is now: Sat Sep 24 01:49:21 UTC 2005.03:50
gt500sproingie yes, i typed in  the command and says not found03:50
`psychoi'm in CET=GMT+103:50
`psychoso why are there 2 hrs diff ?!03:51
sproingiegt500: you have to put that into a web browser03:51
gt500nooo not the link03:51
gt500sproingie i put the command that the link tells you to03:51
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durtDigo_rp: you can get the ubuntu package from hoary extras or backports03:51
gt500ok03:51
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gt500sproingie sudo  nvidia-glx-config enable03:52
evil_khi anyone03:52
fossawhat's the aptitude command to get tcl tk and blt?03:52
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fmasiSome one tel me how to put vsftpd as service in ubuntu please03:52
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god-zero`psycho: are you in daylight's savings time?03:52
evil_khey, im brand new to linux, anyone wanna give me a few pointers?03:52
sproingiegt500: that's actually the first thing it tells you to type?  jeepers.03:52
nightairtest34, I did search for keyword "switcher" on gnome's bugzilla. results:  http://bugzilla.gnome.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&field0-0-0=product&type0-0-0=substring&value0-0-0=switcher&field0-0-1=component&type0-0-1=substring&value0-0-1=switcher&field0-0-2=short_desc&type0-0-2=substring&value0-0-2=switcher&field0-0-3=status_whiteboard&type0-0-3=substring&value0-0-3=switcher03:52
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gt500no, it says something about synaptic03:53
sproingiegt500: try the parent page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto03:53
Digo_RPdurt: how ? please03:53
_blakeI keep getting this error even with all module dependecies installed "Error opening pcap: bind: Network is down03:53
gt500sproingie it says something about synaptic03:53
nightairtest34, maybe something related in there03:53
_blakecan anyone help?03:53
naliothnightair: /pm does exist for that sort of thing03:53
sproingiegt500: i suggest following those synaptic instructions then03:53
gt500sproingie but i already did that03:53
gt500sproingie universe or multiverse03:53
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nightairnalioth, yea sorry I didn't realize how large the url was03:53
sproingiegt500: restricted03:53
gt500sproingie let me check03:53
cesarinnalioth, by any chance, can you tell me again what was that program similar to WINAMP but for X?03:54
sproingiegt500: just enable them all in sources.list03:54
naliothcesarin: xmms03:54
ebdaincesarin - XMMS03:54
test34nightair, I will check because nobody got this issue so far in #gnome03:54
gt500sproingie yes03:54
cesarinthx03:54
naliothcesarin: or use beep media player (a gtk2 port of xmms)03:54
sproingieand jebuz, i hope breezy ships with them all enabled or at least a farking wizard at install time03:54
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gt500sproingie so i'm not sure03:55
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sproingiegt500: my experience is with ati, so i'm not much help with the commands in the nvidia part03:55
durtDigo_rp: add: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted, and deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted to /etc/apt/sources.list03:55
nightairtest34, #gnome on freenode or #gnome on the gnome irc server. maybe more peopleon the gnome irc server I'd imagine03:55
gt500sproingie ok03:55
evil_khow to i change my resolution?03:55
gt500sproingie well it should be easy03:55
edgardoHola! Buenas Noches...03:55
naliothyou guys paste your stuff into a pastebin or use /pm or /query03:55
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cesarinedgardo: este no es el canal para espaol03:55
jpmeaholas03:55
cesarinentra a ubuntu-es03:55
Digo_RPtnx a lot03:56
fmasican some one help me whith vsftpd ?03:56
_blakeI am trying to get aimsniff to work on our network, but i keep getting this error "Error opening pcap: bind: Network is down"  could it be because i am trying to sniff my wireless device?03:56
naliothcesarin: esta #ubuntu-es03:56
jpmeaalguien sabe cual es el repositorio para actualizar al gaim?03:56
edgardoGracias, hasta pronto!03:56
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nalioth!es03:56
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.03:56
jpmeame salta un error de gaim:03:56
jpmea  Depende: gaim-data (=1:1.4.0-1ubuntu1~5.04ubp1) pero se va a instalar 1:1.1.4-1ubuntu4.403:56
evil_kok figured it out03:56
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cesarinnalioth,  thats what Im telling him03:57
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durt!start a language war03:57
ubotuADA is better than JavaScript!03:57
durtthats not what i meant ubotu...03:57
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cesarinsilly bot.. java is not for mirc programs :P03:58
fmasimy vsftpd whont start why ? "500 OOPS: could not bind listening IPv4 socket03:58
fmasi"03:58
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gt500Can anybody help me install 3d accelerator for my graphics card??????/03:58
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test34nightair, that was #gnome on freenode, I will try gnome on gnome network, because I didnt see my problem in the bug list you just found03:59
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durtgt500: what kind of card?03:59
WebLOCHjust out of curiosity, does anyone know what the "Yes" script is for?03:59
gt500geforce fx03:59
gt500durt geforce03:59
durtget nvidia-glx03:59
Madpilot!tell gt500 about nvidia04:00
gt500durt it doesnt work04:00
elad`In xchat, how do I list channel, but filter the results according to a certain word?04:00
sproingieWebLOCH: it sends an infinite series of 'yes' to stdout.  or whatever you tell it to04:00
elad`(Like mIRC does automatically)04:00
cesarinI should learn to not erase the logs >_<04:00
gt500durt that doesnt work04:00
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cesarinI forgot what was that trillian-like program for linux04:00
WebLOCHsproingie, yeah i noticed, just havent been able to use it yet04:00
gt500Madpilot doesn't work04:00
cesarinI only remember it starts with "K" >_<04:00
durtgt500 yes it does, whats the problem?04:00
gt500Madpilot i am there right now04:00
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gt500durt it says command not found04:00
nightairtest34, yea on this page they show all their channels on their server http://gnomesupport.org/wiki/index.php/IrcChannels04:01
sproingieWebLOCH: you pipe it in to programs that prompt you endlessly to just answer yes to everything.  it's kind of useless these days04:01
durtgt500, what command?04:01
gt500durt alec@alec:~$ sudo nvidia-glx-config enable04:01
gt500Password:04:01
gt500sudo: nvidia-glx-config: command not found04:01
nomasteryodai have a system that boots but hangs at snd-hda-intel...... is there a way to turn this off?04:01
prabu^anyone got Tomcat 5.0.28 + MySQL working ?04:01
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WebLOCHsproingie,  yes I know lol, I was just saying I couldnt figure out HOW to set the target for output04:01
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shaoqihi. how come i cannot copy files or install files into my system? It says I don't have access. How to solve this? Thanks.04:01
sproingieWebLOCH: you pipe it04:01
WebLOCHlike..04:01
WebLOCHblah blah | yes04:02
sproingieno04:02
sproingieyes | blah blah04:02
WebLOCHahh04:02
sproingieyes will actually repeat all its args04:02
nomasteryoda!tell shaoqi about sudo04:02
durtgt500: have you edited xorg.conf so that the driver is "nvidia" and not "nv"?04:02
gt500durt no04:03
gt500durt how do i do that04:03
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nomasteryodashaoqi, did you try using the sudo command?04:03
shaoqino. i'm still new to linux.04:03
nomasteryodak04:03
elad`Name a flashget like application for Linux.04:03
shaoqiso i see installation cant be done like this.04:03
fmasican some one give me some help whith vsftpd ?04:03
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shaoqimust be using this sudo command only?04:04
nomasteryoda!sudo04:04
ubotuwell, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo04:04
nomasteryodashaoqi, look at that url04:04
shaoqiyup, i'm reading it. thanks..04:04
nomasteryodashaoqi, yes.. to protect your system04:04
shaoqican i logon to the admin account by default?04:04
nomasteryodaLinux is much more protective of the sytem than that other OS04:04
gt500durt please dont bail out on me04:04
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shaoqii see..04:04
jsubl2osx ships the same way.. you use sudo by default04:04
nomasteryodashaoqi, you can open a terminal and type04:05
nomasteryodasudo -s04:05
gt500Can anybody help me install 3d accelerator for my graphics card??????/04:05
durtgt500, "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf", scroll down to the device line for the card and change the "nv" to "nvidia"04:05
sproingiei'm told windows vista makes creating a non-administrator account non-optional on install04:05
shaoqiwhat does that do?04:05
nomasteryodathen work from that during your session to open stuff like synaptic, etc.04:05
sproingieand has most programs including installers run as a non-admin04:05
nomasteryodashaoqi, acts like the system administrator04:05
shaoqiic..04:05
sproingienow that windows has figured out POLA, i guess they'll spend the next 20 years patching privilege escalation bugs just like unix04:06
cesarinbtw, how .BIN files should be transformed into DEB ?04:06
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shaoqiso in linux, most things are done in terminal, rather than using gui?04:06
nomasteryodayou can do them in gui04:06
cesarinshaoqi: just those who needs higher privileges04:06
evil_khow do i find my other partitions in the file browser?04:06
WebLOCHshaoqi, not necessarily, but its faster04:06
gt500durt okay done04:07
nomasteryodaeven MS is realizing this fact04:07
sproingieshaoqi: most system admin stuff.  there's gui apps for most of it, but most people experienced enough to help are used to the commandline versions04:07
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test34shaoqi, that is what ubuntu tries to change I think04:07
cesarinevil_k,  NTFS partitions are not visible, unless you install the patch :P04:07
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nomasteryodayea sproingie CLI rocks04:07
HATTMANHow do you find out your hostname for installation?04:07
evil_kwhat about my fat32 partitions?04:07
shaoqioh. ok.. thanks..04:07
shaoqithen i need to learn more about those commands04:07
evil_kand where do i find the ntfs patch?04:07
sproingiegui admin apps have one advantage: a decent gui makes it impossible to create a nonsensical config file04:07
ubercompuseri cant get firefox to start. can somebody help me. it also wont upgrade04:08
shaoqii'm totally new to this shell command thing04:08
Madpilotshaoqi: for adding programs, you can use Synaptic for GUI - go System menu - Admin - Synpatic Package Manager04:08
cesarin!tell evil_k about ntfs04:08
durtgt500, and restart x (ctrl-alt-bkspace) to see if it works04:08
cesarinthat thingie is preety easy to install to be honest04:08
shaoqimadpilot, thanks for this alternative..04:08
WebLOCHshaoqi, its easy to pick up if you just sit in linux for a couple of days04:08
theconartistwhat packages in a fresh 5.10 install do apm/apci interfacing04:08
evil_kthanks04:08
shaoqiwebloch, yeah, i guess so. that's what i'm going to do :)04:08
HATTMANDoes anyone know how to find out your hostname for installation?04:09
sproingietechnically you can admin nt completely from the CLI, but some of the things aren't even named, and you end up using GUID's04:09
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WebLOCHshaoqi, the most important things to remember are "sudo" and "man"04:09
Madpilot!telll shaoqi about cli04:09
cesarinanyone got the notification of new patches of phytoon?04:09
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IceDragonHey04:09
shaoqi!tell shaoqi about man04:09
ubercompuserhas anybidy had a problem with firefox since the upgarde?04:09
JosephB!tell josephb about backports04:10
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shaoqilol, wahat is man?04:10
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Madpilotshaoqi: the links ubotu just sent you have good basic information on the Linux command line stuff04:10
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IceDragonI have a file (cedega.tgz) on my desktop, how would I go about installing it?04:10
gt500durt i run the command again right04:10
sproingieubercompuser: i had a temporary problem with it segfaulting.  permissions problems on fonts04:10
knewtis there any way to stop the ubuntu installer from trying to install a kernel?04:10
IceDragonIn the archive is a usr folder04:10
shaoqiyeah. got it.. but what is man?04:10
cesarinIceDragon,  that file is compressed, I think you have to use the "TAR" command04:10
IceDragonand folders pretaining to my root usr folder etc...04:10
ubercompusersproingie, can i message you the log?04:10
gt500durt root@alec:/home/alec # sudo nvidia-glx-config enable04:10
gt500sudo: nvidia-glx-config: command not found04:10
nomasteryoda!man04:10
ubotuWish i knew, nomasteryoda04:10
IceDragonok04:10
Madpilotshaoqi: "man" is the command to find the manual files04:10
nomasteryodaLOL04:10
WebLOCHshaoqi,  man is manual04:10
sproingieubercompuser: use pastebin04:10
durtgt500, no, youve just done what that command is supposed to do04:10
nomasteryodashaoqi, type man man04:11
WebLOCHshaoqi, so you type it before a command, like "man cp"04:11
ubercompuserpastebin?????04:11
kairu0what is the best WMV3 player for ubuntu?04:11
gt500ooo okay04:11
gt500ok brb04:11
brownie17if i want to download a new version for Gaim, then should i download the redhat fedora or "autopackage" file?04:11
shaoqiubotu says there's no such word when i type "man"04:11
ubotushaoqi: Not a clue04:11
IceDragonTAR command not found04:11
WebLOCHshaoqi, that will bring up the user manual for the cp or copy command04:11
Madpilotshaoqi:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands - there's a short item on "man" there04:11
sproingienomasteryoda: sadly, 'man man' is a prime example of an overly technical manpage04:11
nomasteryodashaoqi, in your terminal04:11
WebLOCHshaoqi, remember it is case sensitive04:11
durtgt500, but you might not have the package installed or something if you cant run that command04:11
nomasteryodasproingie, i know04:11
evil_kok.. how to i run scripts?04:11
brownie17Madpilot, tell ubotu that04:11
IceDragoncesarin, TAR Command not found04:11
shaoqiyeah. i remember that, case sensitive:)04:11
theconartistduring install of ubuntu i chose not to configure atm, now that the isntall is done it wont even recognize it04:11
drummer87hey, i need help with firefox.. apt updated to 1.0.7 from 1.0.6(backports) and gave an error, now firefox won't start and i can't reinstall 1.0.6 - http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/37241104:11
nomasteryodashaoqi, how about try "man sudo"04:12
durtevil_k: sh whatever.sh04:12
sproingienomasteryoda: bash needs to let go of 'help' and just let that be an alias for man that searches a special manpage dir first04:12
Madpilotbrownie17: good idea... one sec...04:12
cesarinIceDragon,  sorry man but im new to linux too, maybe if you ask nalioth ?04:12
nomasteryodayes04:12
nomasteryodai agree04:12
IceDragonhmmk04:12
sproingieand frankly the man viewer needs hypertext, it's freaking embarrassing that DOS 6.0 has a better help system04:12
shaoqinot a clue04:12
cesarinnalioth,  = PRO :P04:12
shaoqimomasteryoday, not a clue, it says04:12
IceDragonnalioth, How would I install a tgz file in my desktop folder?04:12
nomasteryodaIceDragon, what was the question04:12
ubercompuserit says broken pipe!!!!04:12
nomasteryodashaoqi, where did you ask?04:12
brownie17can somebody help me? i want to download the new Gaim version, should i download the "fedora", "redhat" or the "autopackage" file?04:12
shaoqiprivmsg04:12
WebLOCHsproingie, better still i think it needs to make use of TeX/LaTeX04:13
Madpilot!+man04:13
ubotuThe "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man man" at the command line, or see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands04:13
IceDragonnomasteryoda, I have a cedega tar archive that I would like to install04:13
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drummer87someone??04:13
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IceDragonAnd I dont want to use apt-get04:13
sproingieWebLOCH: html would be fine.  plain text is fine.  it just needs to be informative.04:13
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cesarinok, how dumb I am04:13
brownie17Madpilot, good job04:13
cesarinfinally managed to find the JAVA package on synaptic04:13
nomasteryodaIceDragon, well, since it it is a tar, you would extract to your folder04:13
evil_kthanks durt04:13
cesarinI only had to force it via "installa pplications"04:13
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knewtno-one has any suggestions?04:14
cesarinand install the correct "multiverse" supository :P04:14
Madpilotbrownie17: thanks04:14
Iamgoodstuffanyone willing to give me some help with ubuntu liveCd04:14
nomasteryodaand IceDragon you need to add the "build-essential" packages04:14
WebLOCHcesarin, theres a guide on how to install it04:14
nomasteryodausing apt-get04:14
sproingieactually man's manpage isn't too bad -- it has examples04:14
IceDragonnomasteryoda, I know, I can extract it, but I cant get access privelages to install it04:14
cesarinWebLOCH, : I followed it, but its a total crap to be honest04:14
brownie17drummer, i might be able to help you04:14
cesarinWebLOCH, it confused more than it helped04:14
nomasteryodaIceDragon, that is using sudo04:14
IceDragonI am logged in as root through the terminal04:14
Madpilotsproingie: "man intro" is also good04:14
WebLOCHcesarin, worked okay for me, if yo get stuck after this ill try and help04:14
nomasteryoda!sudo04:14
ubotuwell, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo04:14
cesarinWebLOCH,  like saying one thing, to later do other, mostly commands04:14
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IceDragonnomasteryoda, I am already logged in as root04:14
nomasteryodaIceDragon, well then you are at the right level04:14
nomasteryodak04:14
Iamgoodstuffanyone?04:14
brownie17drummer87, you should unenable backports, then re-install firefox through synaptic, then reinstall backports04:14
IceDragonHow do I open the file manager from the terminal?04:15
nomasteryodaIceDragon, is there a configure file there?04:15
drummer87brownie17, will try that04:15
IceDragonnautilus04:15
WebLOCHIceDragon, type Nautilus04:15
MadpilotIceDragon: type nautilus04:15
nomasteryodayes04:15
cesarinWebLOCH, : well, what I need atm  is help on "FLASH PLAYER" for firefox :>04:15
Iamgoodstuffhello.... anyone.. please04:15
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WebLOCHcesarin, yeah I need to install java again now04:15
brownie17drummer87, until firefox is in the others, you should try to steer clear of it04:15
Madpilot!tell cesarin about flash04:15
IceDragonGnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:04:15
IceDragonAuthentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.04:15
IceDragon?04:15
WebLOCHcesarin, I havent quite figured that yet, the flashplayer i did get froze up when loading04:15
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drummer87brownie17, in the others?? what do you mean04:15
wasabiWhere can I find instructions for Hoary NDIS wrapper configuration?04:16
theconartistwhat is the default root pass...04:16
IceDragonWhat does that message mean nomasteryoda ?04:16
nomasteryodaIceDragon, did you change your hostname in the network-admin tool?04:16
IceDragonnope04:16
theconartisti cant freaking beleive ubuntu doesn't prompt for root password on install04:16
IceDragondidnt change a thing04:16
MadpilotIceDragon: you said you're in a Root Terminal? Use a regular Terminal, and sudo when needed04:16
cesarinWebLOCH, : mostly when I try following the instructions of wiki, it just makes firefox to crash every flash I touch04:16
IceDragonok04:16
Madpilot!tell theconartist about root04:16
brownie17drummer87, the other repos04:16
IamgoodstuffOk can someone please help me with something04:16
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IceDragonWell, I did a su root in the regular terminal04:16
nomasteryodaIamgoodstuff, you have to ask the question04:16
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cesarinMadpilot,  thanks man, but been here 3 fdays struggling to install FLASH PLAYER, following that CRAP instruction :P04:16
nomasteryodaIceDragon, use "sudo"04:16
shaoqierm. i tried login to winxp, but i can't see the hdd that ubuntu is installed on, why?04:16
IamgoodstuffSorry you just all seemed to be ignoring me04:17
IamgoodstuffWell anyways04:17
WebLOCHcesarin, did you install the GPL one or the Non-free one ?04:17
brownie17drummer87, i help heaps of people on here who get similar probelms with backports, and i once had the same problem with smeg. did it work?04:17
durtwasabi: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu04:17
IamgoodstuffI boot from the LiveCd04:17
lindahey guys, trying 5.10 and sudo passwd root isnt working :(04:17
IamgoodstuffVersion 5.04 form AMD6404:17
cesarinWebLOCH,  I followed the url to get them04:17
Madpilotcesarin: get the Flash/Linux stuff from Macromedia's website, that's what I wound up doing to get Flash into Opera - and it works for FF too04:17
Iamgoodstuffand everythign seems to be going fine04:17
WebLOCHcesarin,  you installed from binaries?04:17
nomasteryodalinda, did you type the password when you made your account?04:17
gazzerhuse: sudo su04:17
Iamgoodstuffbut it won;t boot to the Desktop Environment04:17
nomasteryodaor write it04:17
brownie17Iamgoodstuff, you need to tell your entire problem in one line04:17
gazzerhshould work04:17
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IceDragonnomasteryoda, it said I'm not in the sudeors file04:17
IceDragonI just recreated my account because it was fux0red for some reason04:18
nomasteryodaice, close that terminal04:18
nomasteryodaah04:18
lindait didnt ask for root password04:18
IceDragonI did04:18
wasabiDoes NDIS work with USB wifi adapter?04:18
nomasteryodawell that explains that04:18
Madpilotlinda: there is no root by default in Ubuntu...04:18
WebLOCHDoes anyone know if the x64 edition of ubuntu supports Intel EMT64 ?04:18
Madpilot!tell linda about root04:18
IceDragonWhat?04:18
cesarinWebLOCH,  tried the 64 bit version, it destroyed my firefox04:18
durtwasabi: yes, but i dont have one of those04:18
WebLOCHwasabi, it could be a problem with USB or with the wifi adapter04:18
Iamgoodstuffyes it supports emt6404:18
brownie17Iamgoodstuff, and ask. otherwise people will think you already have somebody helping you, i.e. intead of "it doesnt boot right" say "i need help with livecd, it doesn't boot right. cqan anyone help me?"04:18
shaoqierm. i tried login to winxp, but i can't see the hdd that ubuntu is installed on, why? thanks..04:18
nomasteryodaIceDragon, your account was fouled?... how?04:18
cesarinWebLOCH,  haven tried the 32 bits, and Im gonna try atm, just need to finish installing my firefox patches04:18
drummer87brownie17, nope.. i think the package mozilla-firefox was a metapackage pointing to firefox in backports, but now is the only firefox package needed04:18
WebLOCHwasabi, i have found that my USB bluetooth devices dont work, even though I have evverything installed correctly04:18
IceDragonnomasteryoda, I think I changed my root folder04:19
IceDragonthen gave me a gnome create folder error or somthing04:19
WebLOCHcesarin,  fair enough then buddy, let me know how you fair, also, PLEASE consider using Opera04:19
brownie17drummer87, ok, sorry. i tried :(04:19
WebLOCHIamgoodstuff, thanks for the info04:19
IceDragonroot folder for the account04:19
Iamgoodstuffno problem webloch04:19
nomasteryodaIceDragon, that is getting overly complicated.... ubuntu made it simple for you...04:19
nomasteryodamade..04:19
`psychohow to add someone in the sudoers list in hoary but via console ? does the person only have to be in the admin group or ?04:19
IamgoodstuffAnyways.. I'm having trouble getting the LiveCd to work on my AMD64 machine.. can someone please help?04:19
IceDragon:-\04:20
Madpilot`psycho: "man adduser"04:20
nomasteryodaI have not a clue on repairing that damage04:20
drummer87i could uninstall all firefox packages, but then i'll have to get rid of yelp, ubuntu-desktop and a few others for a moment.. perhaps that will work, albeit a hassle04:20
IceDragonWell that doesnt really help04:20
IceDragonheh04:20
nomasteryodai know04:20
shaoqierm. i tried login to winxp, but i can't see the hdd that ubuntu is installed on, why? thanks..04:20
IceDragonSo what do you suggest I do?04:20
Madpilot`psycho: and please consider starting your nick with an actual letter, not a punctuation mark?04:20
WebLOCHdrummer thats not true04:20
nomasteryodaif it was me, and the install was new i would reinstall04:20
cesarinWebLOCH,  might try, now to try flash04:20
cesarinbrb04:20
nomasteryodabut you can reboot to the "safe" mode04:20
IceDragon:-\04:20
theconartistwhen i run ubuntu device database collection, it stalls on network test04:21
IceDragonWell, I removed the other accouhnt04:21
WebLOCHdrummer87, if you use apt-get you can uninstall firefox specifically and not every listed dependancy04:21
sproingiepsyco's name is actually the easiest one here to tab-complete04:21
IceDragonbecause I still have another user that I created04:21
locomortoshaoqi: becuase microsoft doesn't want you too04:21
nomasteryodaIceDragon, there is a way to set the sudoers list04:21
IceDragonthat didnt get messed up04:21
nomasteryodai think it is at04:21
locomortoshaoqi: ring them up and complain04:21
nomasteryoda!sudo04:21
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo04:21
nomasteryodaor links to it04:21
tycoon!sudo04:21
IceDragonok04:21
shaoqilocomorto, but if i want to, how can i see my hdd?04:21
kairu0what is the best WMV3 player for ubuntu?04:21
`psychosproingie, why thx ;)04:21
IamgoodstuffWhen I boot from the Ubuntu live CD (version 5.04 for AMD64) everything seems to be going ok and it seems to be loading fine but then it stops and never goes to the desktop environment.. can anyone help me?04:21
locomortoshaoqi: you can't04:21
cesarinWebLOCH,  btw, where I do download the 32 bit version of flash?04:21
_n00blar_kairu0, use xine and download w32codecs04:22
cesarinsince I get nothing when I type the sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree04:22
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shaoqilocomorto, it's not possible?04:22
brownie17how dod i give someone the rights to use synaptic/04:22
nomasteryodashaoqi, you can.... see NTFS from within Linux, but seeing Linux from windows is not simple04:22
WebLOCHcesarin, i use apt wherever possible, you can try sudo apt-get install gpl-flash04:22
Gobblanomasteryoda: is it even possible?04:22
cesarinnomasteryoda,  there are 2 programs, let me check if I have them still04:22
IceDragonhmm k04:22
shaoqiyah. i can see ntfs from linux, but not from windows04:22
Madpilotcesarin: it's in Multiverse04:22
nomasteryodaGobbla, yes04:22
IceDragonI'll be back soon04:22
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locomortoshaoqi: no04:23
cesarinMadpilot, : thanks man! will search it04:23
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shaoqinomasteryoda, i want to see linux from windows, how can i do it?04:23
theconartistdoes anyone know the kernel parameter to disable apm?04:23
IamgoodstuffWhen I boot from the Ubuntu live CD (version 5.04 for AMD64) everything seems to be going ok and it seems to be loading fine but then it stops and never goes to the desktop environment.. can anyone help me?04:23
cesarinWebLOCH, : cannot find gpl-flash04:23
cesarinbrb04:23
Auckland_Pighi, does ubuntu live cd have a disk partition utility, like knoppix has QT parted?04:23
WebLOCHcesarin, you running breezy or hoary ?04:23
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nomasteryodashaoqi, if the Linux partition was formatted as ext2 (3?) then ext2fs will work...slow, but it worked for me04:23
nomasteryodait's out on the web04:23
Iamgoodstuffhello.. please help04:24
Iamgoodstuffanyone04:24
tritiumbrownie17, you add that user to the admin group04:24
IamgoodstuffI don;t even care if you can help me, just say something04:24
shaoqimine was formatted as ext3, can i makie it visible on windows still?04:24
Iamgoodstufftell me to hit my computer with a hammer.. I don't care04:24
Auckland_Pighi Iamgoodstuff ... how are you04:24
WebLOCHshaoqi,  not yet04:24
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theconartistdoes anyone know the kernel parameter to disable apm?04:24
Iamgoodstuffthanks auckland pig04:24
sproingieIamgoodstuff: okay, hit your computer with a hammer04:24
nomasteryodashaoqi, well that is still ext2 but with journaling....04:24
cesarinWebLOCH, breezy04:24
nomasteryodaworks for me04:24
cesarin32bit 68604:24
nomasteryodashaoqi, look on google04:24
WebLOCHcesarin, I assume you have the backports commented out04:24
Auckland_Pigdont worry Iamgoodstuff someone will help u... just be patient04:24
MadpilotIamgoodstuff: percussive repairs can be entertaining, at least for the user ;)04:25
sproingieIamgoodstuff: just ask, no need to ask to ask04:25
Iamgoodstuffwell it didn;t get the LiveCd working but I do have a badass "dent" casemod now04:25
cesarinWebLOCH,  backports?04:25
WebLOCHcesarin, I use them, but on breezy i wouldnt recommend it04:25
Auckland_Pighi, does ubuntu live cd have a disk partition utility, like knoppix has QT parted?04:25
WebLOCHcesarin, i dont know what to recommend04:25
shaoqinomasteryoda, ok let me try then04:25
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cesarinWebLOCH, ok no problem04:25
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nomasteryodahttp://e2fsprogs.sourceforge.net/ext2.html04:25
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Iamgoodstuffwell sorry guys but I have to leave now.. Hopefulyl someone can help me later as I would love to see what Ubuntu can do before I install it on my machine04:25
nomasteryodaits on the right site at least04:25
Iamgoodstuffleave04:26
theconartistwhat is contained in ubuntu-desktop04:26
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cesarinmadpilot theres a program named 277trans04:26
cesarinsadly cant see its contents atm since its for winbloze04:26
cesarinits a File brownser like, but handles linux partitions04:27
drummer87well.. i got firefox installed without error, but it won't start?!? how can i get debugging output from FF in a console?04:27
Madpilotcesarin: what's it for?04:27
WebLOCHhmm im beginning to wonder if i should find a way to convert my music collection to ogg04:27
Phr0stByteAnyone here have a GrandStream VoIP adapter hooked up?04:27
Madpilotcesarin: ah, gotcha.04:27
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cesarinWebLOCH,  ok, found the "nonfree flashplayer" on multieverse04:27
cesarinit seems to work04:27
nomasteryodaWebLOCH, if you have a player that will play them, do it...04:27
nomasteryodai mean hardware player like Neuros04:28
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theconartistdoes anyone know the kernel parameter to disable apm?04:29
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shaoqinomasteryoda, what do i type to seach on google to get the info i need? thanks04:29
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WebLOCHcesarin, yeah thats the one i installed before04:29
nomasteryodashaoqi,  http://e2fsprogs.sourceforge.net/ext2.html04:29
nomasteryodathat is the site04:29
WebLOCHcesarin, im not sure how thourough its compatibility is04:29
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shaoqiokay. let me check it out thanks04:29
WebLOCHnomasteryoda, yeah, but im worried about quality loss04:30
nomasteryodawell thye had the link there before04:30
WebLOCHnomasteryoda, and its going to take ages04:30
nomasteryodacrud.... just sec04:30
Phr0stByteAnyone here have a GrandStream VoIP adapter hooked up?04:30
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hmrochahelloo04:30
nomasteryodahttp://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm04:31
nomasteryodathats it shaoqi04:31
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cesarinWebLOCH,  I used another one04:31
hmrochahow can i burn a file to a cd without creating an image first?04:31
cafuego_How would you use one to call the electricity company faults line when the power goes out? ;-)04:31
cesarinsadly I erased it04:31
hmrochaburning on the fly with nautilus04:31
cesarinbut it seemed to work.04:31
cafuego_nomasteryoda: No, there's a much better one.04:31
shaoqinomsteryoda, ok. let me read and see how i can go about to do it04:31
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nomasteryodacafuego, yea there is04:31
cafuego_nomasteryoda: ext2fsd.sf.net, allows you to mount it like a normal disk.04:31
nomasteryodaright04:31
cafuego_and read/write via the windows explorer04:32
cafuego_ext3 as well04:32
WebLOCHreally?04:32
cafuego_Yep.04:32
nomasteryodacafuego, thanks04:32
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WebLOCHhow stable is it ?04:32
nomasteryodai forgot about that project04:32
WebLOCHahh i was at this site the other day, i couldnt find ext304:32
sproingiei didn't realize it was still active04:32
cafuego_WebLOCH: I've not had problems with it, just keep in mind that after rbooting, any file to copied TO ext2/ext3 is owned by root:root04:32
nomasteryodanew release in July 2005 too04:32
nomasteryodasuper..!! shaoqi glad you asked04:33
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WebLOCHcafuego, yeah i guessed lol04:33
nomasteryodashaoqi, do use that one like cafuego suggested04:33
shaoqinomasteryoda, but thanks alot for your help.04:33
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nomasteryodanp04:33
sproingieneat.  tho for my box i'd need a xfs driver04:33
shaoqiuse ex2fs?04:33
cafuego_And oh, it can't mount ext2/ext3 if the filesystem is NOT marked clean.04:33
cesarindamn, this TV time program KICKS ASS04:33
cesarinI can see porn from my cable system wich was usually blocked :P04:34
nomasteryodashaoqi, ext2fsd.sf.net04:34
nomasteryodahttp://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd04:34
durtwhoa there whats this about porn?04:34
shaoqinomasteryoda, thanks04:35
nomasteryodacesarin, certainly you mean Pr0n04:35
shaoqicafuego_, thanks too04:35
nomasteryodashaoqi, thanks to you I remember that project from Freshmeat long ago04:35
WebLOCHhmmm04:35
WebLOCHwhats the smeg package name?04:35
Phr0stByteAnyone here have a GrandStream VoIP adapter hooked up?04:35
shaoqinomasteryoda, i didn't do anything though..04:36
nomasteryodaPhr0stByte, did you ask about that on some voip channel?04:36
cesarinnomasteryoda,  but.. of courrrseee04:36
theconartistwtf04:36
cafuego_!smeg04:36
ubotusmeg is probably a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.04:36
theconartisthow do i configure my NIC04:36
nomasteryodashaoqi, yes you did... you prompted the discussion...04:36
theconartistubutnu is t3h borked04:36
cesarinbtw, anyone can remind me what is the program for linux that is like TRILLIAN?04:36
WebLOCHyeah ive checked the backports04:36
WebLOCHits not available04:36
WebLOCHcesarin,  GAIM04:36
Madpilot!smeg04:36
ubotuwell, smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.04:36
cafuego_Well, try THAT url then04:36
Phr0stBytenomasteryoda: What voip channel - be glad to ask there04:36
WebLOCHdirty04:36
shaoqinomasteryoda, haha. i got more questions too =x haha04:36
nomasteryodak04:36
oli sanyone here running ubuntu on a laptop04:36
nomasteryodahehe04:36
cafuego_ol: I am.04:37
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nomasteryodaPhr0stByte, lets see04:37
olcould you explain the knid of things you had to do to get it running?04:37
Madpilotol: lots of people are, maybe not here now though04:37
cafuego_Well, not right now, but it is installed and it does run, when it;'s on.04:37
olmine alwayas freezes as it tries to load hotplug.. iv tried tons of things04:37
cafuego_ol: I had to install it from the cd.04:37
olthats what im doing, how else would you?04:37
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cafuego_ol: It's not a HP nx9005 is it?04:37
olno04:37
olsager04:37
cafuego_No idea, then.04:37
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olit obviously doesnt like some of my hardware but disabling apic and all that doesnt help04:38
cesarinWebLOCH,  that is not GAIM04:38
cesarinGAIM = MSN copy04:38
cesarinand gaim = not skinneable04:38
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cafuego_Gaim does a lot more then MSN04:38
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theconartistgam is not an msn copy...04:38
theconartistgaim*04:38
durtwtf do you need skins?04:38
WebLOCHcesarin, GAIM is a multiprotocol client and yes it is skinnable, just not particularly good04:38
cafuego_including, but not limited to running on Windows ;-)04:38
theconartistand it is skinnable04:39
WebLOCHhaha04:39
WebLOCHpwnzD!04:39
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cafuego_tritium: Maybe it would work better if you whispered sweet nothings to it...04:39
durtdo flash and java work with dillo?04:40
tritiummaybe it would work better if I threw it out the window...04:40
theconartistubuntu is being a poo poo head04:40
cesarinI remmeber someone said about "K" sometihg04:40
theconartistsomebody help me04:40
cesarinlike KALAKA04:40
cesarinwich was almost identic to trillian and preety stable04:40
cesarinbut I Forgot the real name x_X04:40
WebLOCHcafuego, I dont suppose you know which backport SMEG was in, I'd like to re-add it haha04:40
tritiumcafuego, :)04:40
c0rrupt_how can i change the contents of a directory that are only available for viewing with root, to be viewable to another unser04:40
theconartisthow the hell do i do a post install configuration of my NIC!?!?!?!??!?!04:40
c0rrupt_user*04:40
nomasteryodaPhr0stByte, you look here?04:40
nomasteryodaanything to do with asterisk04:40
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tritiumc0rrupt_, do you see the topic, and what it says about backports?04:40
cafuego_WebLOCH: The smeg factoid has a url. Go there. Enjoy.04:40
c0rrupt_,?04:41
theconartistyou cant be serious that nobody here knows04:41
cafuego_c0rrupt_: What disk? ntfs? vfat?04:41
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c0rrupt_ntfs04:41
cesarintheconartist, excuse me man, but the default skin of gaim is IDENTIC to MSN's or AIM's default crap, and its horrible, too simplistic, and you cant manage your contacts at all04:41
tritiumtheconartist, did you try System->Administration->Networking for starters?04:41
cafuego_theconartist: run etherconf04:41
c0rrupt_im just saying in general though04:41
shaoqihow come i tried to run as different user (root), i key in my password and it says wrong password?04:41
c0rrupt_like whats the chmod command04:41
theconartisttritium, of course04:41
WebLOCHcafuego, I meant Id like to have that backport added haha04:41
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cafuego_cesarin: Gaim is a chat client, not a contact manager <heh>04:41
Phr0stBytenomasteryoda: yeah - just nobody home in those channels04:41
nomasteryodashaoqi, there is no root on ubuntu04:41
tritiumtheconartist, then why are you asking how to configure?04:41
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nomasteryodaPhr0stByte, oh well04:42
cesarin............04:42
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cesarincafuego_, : I mean like Trillian04:42
c0rrupt_gaim is good04:42
c0rrupt_im using ti right now04:42
cesarinskinneable, can put things in order easily. etc.. :P04:42
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theconartisttritium, because what you just mentioned does not do it04:42
cesarinc0rrupt_,  so I am  :P04:42
WebLOCH!smeg04:42
ubotuhmm... smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.04:42
shaoqinomasteryoda, then is not possible to copy files into the hdd?04:42
nomasteryodashaoqi, the one and only user is the one you installed04:42
nomasteryodashaoqi, you mean to install?04:42
cesarinBtw, anyone else got these phyton update warnings that appareed a few minutes ago?04:43
tritiumtheconartist, it does, but what are you trying to do?04:43
nomasteryodashaoqi, user files go in your /home/shaqoi folders04:43
shaoqinomasteryoda, not really install. i just want to move a file onto another hdd. but i was denied04:43
theconartisttritium, trying to setup my nic...04:43
c0rrupt_cafuego, whats the chmod commands to change permissions viewable to all users04:43
tritiumbe more specific, theconartist04:43
theconartistwell, i cant use it right now04:43
nomasteryodashaoqi, if you mean to your windows drive, then no04:43
theconartisti want to use it04:43
tritiumand explain what the gui config tool is not doing04:43
NeoFaxAnyone know how to fix "No profile for user 'me' found" for KDM?04:43
theconartisttritium, not recognizing it04:43
nomasteryodashaoqi, no writing back to NTFS.. not safe04:43
pgavinwhy is it necessary to get a password for the freenx packages on http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/?04:43
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tritiumtheconartist, which nic do you have, and is the proper module loaded?04:44
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shaoqinomasteryoda, ok. if i just want to move a file to my ubuntu drive?04:44
NeoFaxI have read thru every Xsession file and none give this error.04:44
Serenity-is ubuntu a good starter distro, for a person new to linux ?04:44
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nomasteryodashaoqi, you can copy but not move from the NTFS04:44
theconartisttritium, it's an intel, and yes04:44
NeoFaxI can start KDE via the command line, but no window manager will start from KDM.04:44
cesarinAnyone knows if its VIABLE to update the phyton to  2.4.1-2.4.2.RC1-1 ?04:44
shaoqinomasteryoda, i see. then how can i copy?04:44
EarthenSerenity-, yes it is I'm a noobie my self ony about a month now04:45
tritiumtheconartist, does ifconfig list it?04:45
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nomasteryodashaoqi, but you have to set the read permissions for your standard user account.04:45
nomasteryodayou can do it via sudo04:45
Serenity-i've used linux in the past, but it was Mandrake =/04:45
nomasteryodashaoqi, copy that is04:45
TokenBadhow you unzip or uncompress a bz2 file?04:45
theconartisttritium, it does now04:45
theconartisti fixed it04:45
WebLOCHwill a deb install to a specific location or must i specify myself?04:45
NeoFaxTokenBad: tar -xjvf file.bz204:45
cesarinAnyone knows if its VIABLE to update the phyton to  2.4.1-2.4.2.RC1-1 ?04:45
nomasteryodashaoqi, sudo cp /mnt/hdd/filename /home/username/04:45
tritiumtheconartist, what did you do?04:46
EarthenSerenity-, yeah I tried red hat ,FC, mandrake, suse but I alway got fustrated and gave up untill i found ubuntu04:46
shaoqiok, how to set the permission anyway?04:46
cesarinjust want to be sure, because I think these updates appeared when I enabled "MULTIVERSE"04:46
shaoqinomasteryoda, ok, how to set the permission anyway?04:46
theconartisttritium, system>configuration>networking04:46
theconartistand activated eth004:46
nomasteryodashaoqi, looking at my own right now04:46
Serenity-the machine im going to be installing it to isnt the best, and i know that linux has problems with ATI graphics cards04:46
Serenity-i hope that it atleast recognizes it lol04:46
hmrochai'm using gnome baker04:46
tritiumtheconartist, hmm, sounds familiar ;)04:47
cesarinserenity: using 64 bit mode is REALLY A PAIN in the ass for ATI :P04:47
MadpilotSerenity-: which ATI card?04:47
theconartisttritium, no it doesnt04:47
EarthenSerenity-,  well I have a ATI card04:47
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Serenity-ati radeon 9200se04:47
NeoFaxAnyone can help with KDM?04:47
hmrochai want to burn an iso without creating an image first04:47
cesarinI had to update like 2-3 times of breezy badger to finally get something that detects it :>04:47
hmrochai don't have enough disk space, is that possible?04:47
theconartisttritium, it is a different application from what you suggested04:47
cesarinbreezy 32 bit detected my 9800 pro in an instant :>04:47
EarthenSerenity-, that should work no problem04:47
cafuego_Serenity-: a 9200se is supported by the open radeon driver, you should be fine.04:47
nomasteryodashaoqi, look at your /etc/fstab file04:47
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MadpilotSerenity-: a 9200SE should be fine04:47
sjjAre there 'backports' for breezy ? It appears that breezy still only has mysql-4.1 which is pretty damn old.04:47
cafuego_Serenity-: My wife's mac mini has one and it runs just dandy.04:47
theconartisttritium, omfg lol sry04:47
Serenity-thanks for the help :) im downloading it now04:47
MadpilotSerenity-: I've got a 9600XT, it works great04:48
theconartisttritium, i didnt read the first time04:48
theconartisti thought you said somethign else04:48
tritiumno worries04:48
Serenity-yeah, the guys are work are giving me a hard time saying linux isnt for girls lol04:48
bigfoot1i need to drag and drop a file into /usr/share/opera/styles, but i have no access. how do i do it the un-nerdy way?04:48
Serenity-are = at04:48
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EarthenSerenity-, I just installed my 9700pro tonight all went fine no probs at all04:48
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nomasteryodashaoqi, should have line similar to04:48
nomasteryoda/dev/hda4  /windows  vfat  defaults   0  004:48
Serenity-awesome, yeah im testing it out on this computer, before I try to install it to my main pc04:48
Serenity-i play some games, so im going to see if i can get them running first04:49
Madpilotbigfoot1: use sudo before a mv command.04:49
Serenity-i don't wanna have to do a dual boot04:49
shaoqinomasteryoda, i don't have that line04:49
Phr0stBytebigfoot1: "sudo nautilus"04:49
nomasteryodashaoqi, ok04:49
nomasteryodashaoqi, you add it easily....04:49
Madpilotbigfoot1: those directories are owned by root04:49
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bigfoot1maddler, how do i do it without terminal? oh, i guess Phr0stByte answered my questions.04:49
nomasteryodashaoqi, sudo gedit /etc/fstab04:49
nomasteryodascroll down to bottom04:49
Serenity-this channel is really busy lol04:49
EarthenSerenity-, there's a good walk through in the ubuntu forms about installing ati drivers04:49
vbgunzhello everyone!04:50
boneemy GDM don't work anymore04:50
Earthenati04:50
nomasteryodashaoqi, make the folder too04:50
boneehow can i fix it04:50
MadpilotSerenity-: this is pretty standard traffic here... ;)04:50
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Madpilot!tell Serenity- about ati04:50
nomasteryodashaoqi, the mount point.... like /mnt/windows or /windows.... your preference04:50
shaoqinomasteryoda, make the folder?04:50
Serenity-thanks Madpilot :)04:50
vbgunzanyone know how to run the desktop "clean up by name"?04:50
vbgunzautomatically?04:50
nomasteryodashaoqi, after adding that line, saving and closing the file04:50
pgavinumm, what do I have to do to get a password for http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ to get the FreeNX packages?04:50
nomasteryodashaoqi, sudo mkdir /windows04:50
cesarinbrb04:51
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vbgunzsome of my mount icons are almost always overlapping... its like madness with a method...04:51
TokenBadis cdemu able to get from apt-get?04:51
nomasteryodaSerenity-, i have been fighting getting ATI working on my other laptop04:51
nomasteryodabatting at windmills i have04:51
Serenity-only problem im going to have is that i play World of Warcraft and i heard getting games to run in linux is a pain04:51
Serenity-and then also, my online school requires Outlook Express for my classes04:52
cafuego_Serenity-: With a small purchase of 'Cedega' you should be fine.04:52
Earthenhave anyone installed 3ddesktop04:52
shaoqinomasteryoda, after making the folder, add what line you say?04:52
Serenity-purchase :(04:52
nomasteryodashaoqi, the line i mentioned04:52
Serenity-maybe i'll do the dual boot :)04:52
shaoqi/dev/hda4  /windows  vfat  defaults   0  004:52
Serenity-or install a 2nd HD04:52
nomasteryodashaoqi, gedit /etc/fstab04:52
shaoqiis this the one?04:52
bur[n] ercan anyone help me with some dpkg/apt problems when trying to go to breezy from debian unstable??04:53
cafuego_Serenity-: Do they require OE for any particular reason? There are other pop3/imap clients in Linux that are much nicer and more secure.04:53
nomasteryodashaoqi, then add the partition your windows is on....04:53
nomasteryodashaoqi, like /dev/hdd1 /windows vfat defaults   0  004:53
Serenity-well on the edu site you have to click the links and it opens OE and adds the usergroups that way04:53
bur[n] er!pastebin04:53
ubotupastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl04:53
TokenBador anyone know how to mount an iso file in ubuntu?04:53
Serenity-so i'm not sure if i can set them up manually04:53
bur[n] erTokenBad: mount -t loop blah.iso04:53
nomasteryodaSerenity-, that is baddddd04:54
bur[n] erTokenBad: along those lines ;)  man mount04:54
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TokenBadsorry ..what about bin or cue files04:54
Serenity-i'll just do the dual boot04:54
Serenity-leave like 10 gigs for windows04:54
nomasteryodaSerenity-, as in OE is the largest know spam attractor on the planet04:54
cafuego_Serenity-: Unless they do (very insecure) javascript malarkey, I expect it could be done manually.04:54
Serenity-rest for ubuntu04:54
nomasteryodayea04:54
bur[n] erhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2477  <--anyone know how to fix this dpkg error?04:54
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Serenity-11% done on the download lol04:54
cafuego_that remionds me i need colony4 for this imac04:55
nomasteryoda!tell shaoqi about windows04:55
theconartistgrrr04:55
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nomasteryodalol04:55
theconartistapmd needs to die04:55
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nomasteryoda!tell Serenity- about windows04:55
nomasteryodaSerenity-, there are some options...04:55
nomasteryodatheconartist, I agree04:56
Serenity-thanks :)04:56
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anethemahey uhh, i upgraded my firefox with apt and it wont install themes now04:56
anethemawhen i click to install a new theme nothing happens :(04:56
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knuckleshow can i fix this problem i just tryed to update my systme and i got an error like this04:56
BROKEN_LADDERwhat is the name of the newish pdf viewer in gnome?04:56
knucklesE: /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.08_all.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/X11/fonts', which is also in package xfonts-base04:56
nomasteryodaBROKEN_LADDER, evince?04:56
shaoqinomasteryoda, where can i get VMware to run windows on linux?04:56
cafuego_BROKEN_LADDER: evince04:57
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nomasteryodashaoqi, www.vmware.com04:57
BROKEN_LADDERthankyou04:57
theconartistwtf04:57
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theconartistfor some reason apm=off isn't working04:57
knuckleswhat does that mean?04:57
nomasteryodatheconartist, you need to turn off acpi too right?04:57
knucklesim new to the ubuntu scene04:57
knuckles:)04:57
theconartistnomasteryoda, did that too04:57
theconartiststill being bad :(04:58
durtevince is slower than a monkey, use gv04:58
shaoqinomasteryoda, there's so many to choose. which one? VMware workstation?04:58
nomasteryodatheconartist, yea, i noticed that earlier when trying to help someone with a laptop that would not boot SuSE or Ubuntu properly04:58
nomasteryodashaoqi, yes04:58
nomasteryodaworkstation 5 is nice04:58
nomasteryodai have that04:58
theconartistnomasteryoda, thats not my problem04:58
nomasteryodak04:58
theconartistmy problem is that my thinkpad r31's APM bios doesn't play nice with others04:59
nomasteryodatheconartist, breezy?04:59
nomasteryodaah04:59
theconartistnomasteryoda, anything but windows04:59
nomasteryodaLOL04:59
theconartistno jokes04:59
nomasteryodai agree there04:59
nomasteryodatotally04:59
theconartistand ever 1 minute my mouse darts and thinks randomly click/move04:59
theconartistmy desktop gets defaced04:59
theconartista new folder is created04:59
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theconartistswitches desktops04:59
theconartistall that good stuff04:59
nomasteryodatheconartist, I know what you are talking about05:00
naliothwell now05:00
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durtyou intolerant osists05:00
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Madpilot"OSists"?05:01
WizzoCan someone help me with my laptop touchpad?05:01
cesarinjust cheked Gaim's proyect site05:01
WizzoIt randomly stops working.05:01
cesarinit does NOT support skins nor themes05:01
nomasteryodaWizzo, is it an Alps or synaptic?05:01
cesarinjust emoticons themes05:01
BROKEN_LADDERdoes anyone know this this terminology might mean if i'm configuring a dial tone?05:01
BROKEN_LADDER350@-19,440@-19;10(*/0/1+2)05:01
Wizzosynaptic I think.05:01
Earthenhas anyone managed to get 3ddesktop working05:01
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WizzoIt only happens in Ubuntu.05:02
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durtosist = person who doesnt like windows05:02
nomasteryodaWizzo, you can install the qsynaptics package from apt-get repositories05:02
carlWhy is it my browser always close?05:02
nomasteryoda!tell Wizzo about repos05:02
WizzoAnd that should fix it?05:02
nomasteryodaWizzo, what does it do?05:02
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carlWhy is it my browser always close??05:02
cesarincarl: check if your browser closes under certain circunstances05:02
WizzoIt just... stops.05:02
WizzoSuddenly.05:03
cesarinlike when navigating a site with java, or navigating a site with flash05:03
WizzoEven the little thing in the middle of the keyboard.05:03
nomasteryodaWizzo, does external mouse work?05:03
WizzoRandomly.05:03
carlhow?05:03
WizzoI put in a usb one for now.05:03
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WizzoIt works.05:03
cesarincarl: just visit a site like www.java.com05:03
cesarinjava.com is CLEAN, but contains 1 java applet05:03
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cesarinso if itsjava, it will crash there05:03
nomasteryodaWizzo, Hoary or Breezy ?05:03
cesarinthen go to www.eluniversal.com.mx05:03
WizzoI'm using the preview ubuntu at the moment.05:03
carlwhen im using friendster.com05:03
carland myspace.com05:03
cesarinif it crashes there, its then FLASH player05:03
nomasteryodak05:03
WizzoBreezy.05:03
carlmy browser crashes05:03
WizzoBut it happens in all of them.05:04
cesarincarl: try the sites I told you05:04
nomasteryodaWizzo, well that version is still development05:04
WizzoIt's just in breezy it seems to do it at startup.05:04
cesarinsince sometimes are too mixed with plugins05:04
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nomasteryodaWizzo, what about hoary live?05:04
carlk w805:04
carlit didnt crash05:04
nomasteryodaWizzo, ok... mine works fine in breezy installed05:04
WizzoUm... I'm not sure about the livecds.05:04
TokenBadcan someone tell me what this means?: # you need the source of your current running kernel.05:04
TokenBad/lib/modules/$(shell uname -r)/build/include needs to point at it.05:04
nomasteryodaWizzo, my Dell 4150 has synaptics05:04
WizzoBut I think it's all the same.05:04
shaoqinomasteryoda, which im do you guys use on ubuntu usually?05:05
nomasteryodagaim05:05
WizzoIt just happens at random.05:05
carlbut when i logged on to friendster05:05
carlit crasher05:05
carlit crashes05:05
WizzoI have a Dell Latitude C60005:05
nomasteryodaWizzo, you sure it05:05
nomasteryoda is not alps?05:05
shaoqinomasteryoda, other than gaim?05:05
naliothTokenBad: you need your kernel sources05:05
WizzoWell not really.05:05
WizzoHow can I check?05:05
nomasteryodaWizzo, cause this on I'm on is a D505 dell latitude.... has Alps05:05
TokenBadand ubuntu will not have that right?05:05
nomasteryodaWizzo, just sec05:06
WizzoIn distros like Gentoo and such I just use the default settings.05:06
nomasteryodashaoqi, gaim is the best by far05:06
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WizzoJust with the device path changed.05:06
theconartistnomasteryoda, do you know what might be poking around with APM stuff?05:06
theconartisti disabled all the panel stuff05:06
nomasteryodatheconartist, thinking about that05:06
theconartistusually just getting rid of the battery manager does it05:06
Flying-Penguinguys05:06
nomasteryodatheconartist, i saw that before on someone's system05:06
Flying-Penguinwhen my computer started 3 apps crashed (one being workstation switcher)05:06
TokenBadnalioth, and ubuntu will not have that on my drive right?05:06
pH[gnoppix] Could someone help me out? I have a simple question about my monitor (CRT)-- I just started up Gnoppix on a Windows computer and for some reason has become a BIG eyestrain.05:06
naliothTokenBad: use synaptic to install05:06
Flying-PenguinI disided to not restart05:07
TokenBadcdemu wasn't in that05:07
Flying-Penguinand now they don't start with our computers05:07
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WizzoI just hope I can get this working because Ubuntu seems to be a godsend distro.05:07
WizzoCompiling takes sooo long. :/05:07
nomasteryodaWizzo, it is nice05:07
WizzoYeah.05:07
nomasteryodaWizzo, i am using Breezy on this dell d505 too05:07
nomasteryodainstalled05:07
nomasteryodaworks fine05:07
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WizzoOk..05:08
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nomasteryodaonly don't have the vert/horz scroll on the alps touchpad... but works very good05:08
pH[gnoppix] :/05:08
Flying-Penguinanyone05:08
WizzoUm.. so I should put these repositories in.05:08
nomasteryodabetter than suse or windows05:08
Flying-Penguin?05:08
WizzoAnd install qsynaptics?05:08
nomasteryodaand they are on other partitions05:08
windexhey, im on the phone with someone having issues with screen resolution05:08
nomasteryodaWizzo, i would05:08
windexis there a wiki page for fixing that?05:08
WizzoOk.05:08
nomasteryodaWizzo, makes it easier05:08
Madpilot!+fixres05:08
ubotufixres is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:08
nomasteryodato configure05:08
WizzoThanks. I'll get back to you if it works... or not..05:08
Madpilotwindex: see ubotu above ^^^05:09
durtgsynaptics it you have gtk05:09
TokenBadnalioth, cdemu wasn't in synaptic05:09
windexMadpilot, thanks05:09
Flying-PenguinANYONE?05:09
nomasteryodaWizzo, you can also install 855resolution to get nice 1400x105005:09
nomasteryodaFlying-Penguin, why yell?05:09
WizzoOh.05:09
WizzoCool thanks.05:09
nomasteryodabusy channel05:09
WizzoI thought I had it already. :S05:09
nomasteryodaWizzo, look for Linux Laptops05:09
nomasteryodaon google05:09
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WizzoWhat for?05:10
nomasteryodathe dell laptops ...05:10
Flying-Penguinnomasteryoda: because I cant switch workstations/minimise to desktop/open already open apps (not counting alt+tab)05:10
naliothTokenBad: i didnt send you after cdemu, i sent you for the kernel sources for your machine05:10
nomasteryodathat model05:10
Flying-Penguinnomasteryoda: and you guys aren't helping, therefor I yell05:10
MadpilotWizzo: also search the Ubuntu wiki, there's a large laptop testing project ongoing and someone might just have the same machine as you...05:10
WizzoOk cool.05:10
nomasteryodaFlying-Penguin, we are kinda busy atm05:10
WizzoThanks.05:10
nomasteryodabut we'll try05:10
tritiumWizzo, which laptop?05:10
nomasteryodathanks Madpilot05:11
durtflying-penguin: therefore use google05:11
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nomasteryodaforgot about that d60005:11
WizzoDell LAtitude C60005:11
Flying-Penguindurt: ok, what should I search for!?05:11
nomasteryodac yea05:11
tritiumWizzo, what's the problem?05:11
TokenBadnalioth, ohhhhh05:11
Flying-Penguindurt: google is worthless if you don't know what to search for05:11
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WizzoInbuilt mouse stops working at random times.05:11
nomasteryodatritium, slashes dell again05:11
WizzoBut only on Ubuntu.05:11
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Flying-Penguindurt: not to menction there are plenty of smart people right here where I could get real time support, therefor google is worthless05:12
nomasteryodatritium, he's using Live disk breezy05:12
tritiumnomasteryoda, thanks for the info.  What do you mean "slashes"?05:12
TokenBadnalioth, this the one I need: Linux kernel source for version 2.4.27 with Debian patches05:12
theconartistgrr05:12
WizzoLive disk?05:12
WizzoIt's installed.05:12
theconartisti dont think i have the kernel parameter right05:12
tritiumWizzo, I have a Dell C800, and might be able to help.05:13
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nomasteryodatritium, thought you said that's the problem... to Wizzo ... sorry05:13
nomasteryodaWizzo, ok05:13
WizzoIf you can help that'd be great.05:13
nomasteryodaWizzo, have you updated?05:13
naliothTokenBad: type in a terminal "uname -a" and find the source for the kernel you are running and get it05:13
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WizzoUpdating now.05:13
Wizzo200 megs though...05:13
WizzoBe a bit.05:13
nomasteryodalol05:13
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nomasteryodai do that every other day almost05:14
nomasteryoda2 laptops05:14
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IcemanV9anyone have mute button working on hp laptop?? i'm using hoary right now.05:14
WizzoAn hour to go.05:14
Versed`anyone know how to install java?05:14
tritiumWizzo, your mouse intermittently fails?05:14
nomasteryodawow05:14
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tritium!tell Versed about java05:14
nomasteryodatritium, yes05:14
knucklescan someone please send me a copy of a /usr/lib/X11/fonts file.. i kinda erased mine :-)05:14
nomasteryodathat is his issue05:14
WizzoIntermittently?05:14
nomasteryodalike randomly05:14
tritiumWizzo, intermitten failures could be a hardware problem05:14
TokenBadnalioth, Linux 2.6.10-5-386  is what it says..but don't see the source for 2.6.10 listed05:14
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durtversed': add: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted, and deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted to /etc/apt/sources.list05:15
WizzoI don't see how though.05:15
WizzoIt only ever happens on Ubuntu.05:15
krittyHey all.... I'm getting an error about xfonts not being able to update.... any ideas?05:15
tritiumTokenBad, it's called linux-source-2.6.1005:15
tritiumWhat do you need it for?05:15
TokenBadnalioth, found it..thats why05:15
TokenBadI did search for kernel first05:15
xfxf___yo, i'm having problems with a system i just upgraded hoary -> breezy, dpkg is totally screwing up with " x-common conflicts with xfree86-common", any ideas?05:15
TokenBadand it didn't find it05:15
locomortodurt: is this for Java/libdvdcss2?05:15
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WizzoI've tried every distro on this thing you can think so and some Windows versions.05:15
nomasteryodaWizzo, if it works with say Mepis live disk or hoary and doesn't fail, then it's not hardware05:15
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WizzoThey always work fine.05:15
Flying-Penguindurt: ohh fun, I tryed google and I didn't get my answer, isn't that fun, all the sudden I feal happy I did...05:15
locomortoxfxf___: do a clean install05:15
nomasteryodaWizzo, kernel modules i'd bet...05:15
WizzoI don't think it happens on the live disk..05:16
tritiumWizzo, then please explain better what happens specifically i ubuntu05:16
nomasteryodaWizzo, did you go to support.dell.com and look up what hardware it shipped with?05:16
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krittyE: /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.08_all.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/X11/fonts', which is also in package xfonts-base05:16
WizzoI don't know how to explain it.05:16
WizzoI'll just be using it and it'll just stop.05:16
WizzoSometime after a minute.05:16
WizzoSometimes after hours.05:16
krittywhat does it mean?05:16
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tritiumThat is what we'd call intermittent, Wizzo05:16
naliothkritty: you may force your machine at the risk of breaking it, or wait for an update05:16
WizzoI'll check the specs of the laptop.05:17
nomasteryodakritty, i had that happen too05:17
krittythanks nalioth05:17
krittyI'll wait05:17
durtlocomorto: its for the stuff in hoary extras and backports, including jre and jdk05:17
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nomasteryodai'm waiting too05:17
knucklesi got the same problem05:17
tritiumjust be patient, breezy users05:17
knucklesjust diselect the xcommon05:17
krittynomasteryoda05:17
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knuckleswhen updating05:17
codomaniacbreezy is safe to switch now :) ?05:17
krittythanks05:17
xfxf___locomorto: surely there's a different answer?  upgradability is a major reason i use ubuntu/debian, instead of something like fedora05:17
nomasteryodaah.... the breezy winds of change05:17
Flying-Penguinwell... some programs of mine crashed on startup and I chose not to restart them and now they don't start with my computer05:17
krittytritium ksmurf says hello05:17
locomortodurt: there not there anymore (Java/libdvdcss2)05:17
nomasteryodacodomaniac, er, i like it05:17
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tritiumkritty, greetings to ksmurf.  Might you be his wife?05:18
codomaniacnomasteryoda, it is stable :) ?05:18
locomortoxfxf___:you can upgrade fedora easily enough05:18
nomasteryodacodomaniac, seems very much so to me....05:18
krittyyes.... pity me?05:18
locomortoxfxf___: and for now, thats the problem05:18
nomasteryodaIMHO05:18
durtlocomorto: really? when'd that happen?05:18
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IcemanV9codomaniac: not really .. you could wait 'til next month like i do05:18
locomortoxfxf___: we moved to a modalised x.org05:18
nomasteryodacodomaniac, but updates break things...05:18
tritiumkritty, heh05:18
locomortodurt: not sure, but it happend05:18
WizzoI'll check the kernel.05:18
nomasteryodacodomaniac, like your customized xorg file05:18
WizzoYou compile it just like any other distro right?05:18
krittybbl05:18
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xfxf___locomorto: yeah, but i upgraded hoary->breezy on the machine i'm on right now and it worked fine05:19
Versed`durt, get nothing05:19
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xfxf___i'm just having problems galore on another machine05:19
xfxf___surely there's a solution?05:19
nomasteryodacodomaniac, or wireless ndiswrapper build05:19
Flying-Penguinwell... some programs of mine crashed on startup and I chose not to restart them and now they don't start with my computer05:19
codomaniachmm...05:19
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locomortoxfxf___: the dependices haven't been sorted out yet05:19
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TokenBadnalioth, if I do that to install the sources..do I still need to point to them05:19
locomortoxfxf___: And you are probably missing a few things here and there05:19
TokenBadlike that line said?05:19
cesarinwell anyway later guys, thanks a lot for the help!!!05:19
locomortoxfxf___: For now, if you want breezy, a clean install is the best way to get it05:19
xfxf___locomorto: no, apt-get -u dist-upgrade claims there's nothing else to install05:20
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xfxf___ok, sigh, fair enough05:20
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durtversed`: here then: http://serios.net/content/debian/java/with-java-package.php05:20
locomortoxfxf___: In future, make sure to make a home partition05:20
naliothTokenBad: no you do not05:20
locomortoxfxf___: it makes upgrading so much easier05:20
cafuego_tritium: That's going to make them completely useless as code talkers during the US-EU wars of 201105:20
naliothTokenBad: the line assumes you have them in a nonstandard place05:20
Flying-Penguinwell... some programs of mine crashed on startup and I chose not to restart them and now they don't start with my computer05:20
xfxf___i already do that.  this just defeats a major reason i've stuck with debian-based distros05:20
xfxf___but, fair enough, thanks.05:21
tritiumcafuego, let's hope it never comes to that05:21
IcemanV9but, tritium, it is not live, isn't it?05:21
cafuego_tritium: Hmmm, possibly.05:21
TokenBadwell just tried to run make like it said05:21
nomasteryodaFlying-Penguin, like which programs?05:21
tritiumIcemanV9, the game?  Yes, it is.05:21
nomasteryodahelps to know05:21
TokenBadnalioth, well just tried to run make like it said and it gave me an error05:21
durtthe us will RAPE europe05:21
tritiumdurt, stop05:22
IcemanV9tritium: wicked05:22
naliothTokenBad: you also need kernel headers05:22
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locomortoyou guys are pitiful, AFL is the best sport out there ;)05:22
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locomortoOur grand final is today as well05:22
cafuego_locomorto: bloody wog05:22
Flying-Penguinnomasteryoda: I didn't memorize them, but they are all on my "stat bar" I don't see my workstation switcher, or my task bar (where all open programs are), and the buttons that lets me minimize to desktop05:22
nomasteryodaguys, #ubuntu-offtopic is the channel for that stuff05:23
locomortocafuego_: Its an AUSTRALIAN sport ;)05:23
tritiumlocomorto, what's AFL?05:23
naliothlocomorto: in #ubuntu-offtopic please05:23
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cafuego_locomorto: flying birds or swimming birds?05:23
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nomasteryodaFlying-Penguin, you can just add them again05:23
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Flying-Penguinnomasteryoda: ok... what are they called05:23
Flying-Penguinnomasteryoda: and I don't know where they where befor05:23
nomasteryodaFlying-Penguin, you right-click the taskbar at the top (usually)05:23
theconartistgrr wtf05:23
theconartisti cant figure this out05:23
cafuego_tritium: it's a sport where men in very tight shorts bash eachother up in public and on occasion kick an egg shaped ball.05:24
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Flying-Penguinnomasteryoda: my taskbar is at the bottom, but anywho05:24
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nomasteryodaFlying-Penguin, ok05:24
tritiumcafuego, heh, not a fan, eh?05:24
nomasteryodaFlying-Penguin, you can choose to add another panel05:24
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nomasteryodaFlying-Penguin, then add the applets to it05:24
kevin06What was the official reason for Ubuntu's break in Debian compatibility?05:25
shaoqihow to force an app to close, my gedit seems to be having some problems05:25
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cafuego_tritium: it's not much less boring than golf.05:25
IcemanV9shaoqi: pkill -9 gedit05:25
nomasteryodashaoqi, xkill05:25
nomasteryodaor that05:25
cafuego_tritium: I also live near a stadium, and whenever there's a game on, the punters park where they ought not, make noise and piss on houses and gardens.05:25
tritiumick05:26
knewtanyone else had any issues with an inspiron 6000 locking up hard a few seconds into the gnome logon sequence (whilst it's playing audio), with nothing in the log files to show for it?05:26
nomasteryodacafuego, gardens need that ... at least azaleas benefit from it05:26
cafuego_even dogs are not that bad05:26
nomasteryodaprevents fungi growth05:26
shaoqithankks05:26
cafuego_nomasteryoda: The lemon tree is in the OTHER garden ;-)05:26
nomasteryodaLOL05:26
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Flying-Penguinnomasteryoda: ty, I am going to restart X and see if they come up again05:26
nomasteryodacrud05:27
WizzoThe Dell list said the touchpad worked fine for them.. :/05:27
WizzoThat doesn't sound good on my part.05:27
nomasteryodaI hope he told it to save the configuration05:27
ongsterhow do i make thunderbird my default instead of evolution?05:27
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sambagirlbreezy update did everything accourding to instructoins everything go ok but still not say breezy. oh well i try again later.05:27
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nomasteryodaWizzo, wait until you get the latest kernel... installed and booted05:28
naliothsambagirl: breezy wont say breezy until oct 13, most likely05:28
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Flying-Penguinnomasteryoda: ty05:28
nomasteryodanp05:28
baroslwhen apache display Indexes, it restricts maximum length of title. how can i relieve this setting?05:28
sambagirlahh05:28
tritiumsambagirl, lsb_release -a says what?05:28
theconartistnomasteryoda, ok, i found the kernel parameter that SHOULD work05:28
sambagirlwhat i type to find out versoin?05:28
nomasteryodaxx fingers05:28
sambagirli did gnome about it doesnt say breezy05:29
theconartistNOOOOOOOO!!!!05:29
theconartistit doesnt :(05:29
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sambagirlcan i type ver somwhere?05:29
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sambagirloh well.05:29
WizzoIf I cancel the download of the updates I can resume it after right?05:30
nomasteryodatheconartist, just sec05:30
sambagirlit wont say ubuntu anuymore? it say breezy?05:30
nomasteryodasambagirl, open a terminal window05:30
sambagirlheh05:30
nomasteryodalsb_release -a05:30
sambagirlsneezy breezy snoopy, slouchy, sloppy, burpy, slurpy sounds like snow white05:30
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nomasteryodaDapper Drake is next one05:30
nomasteryoda=)05:31
IcemanV9didn't know that irssi part of default installation?? cool.05:31
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sambagirlsays 5.0405:31
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nomasteryodahoary then05:32
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sambagirlhow do i see how much space i have on m drive?05:32
EduHi all. I am new here. Is it here where I could have some help with my installation?05:32
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nomasteryodasambagirl, df -Th05:32
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sambagirlah cool05:32
sambagirli had enough space05:32
nomasteryodaEdu, you just ask your question05:32
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sambagirlyour very bright05:32
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nomasteryodathnks05:33
nomasteryoda=)05:33
sambagirlmust be brasilian05:33
sambagirl;D05:33
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sambagirlok game time chao05:33
nomasteryodachao05:33
drsynackuatoreveryone order their breezy CDs!!!05:33
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nomasteryodaok05:33
fossahi, i'm having a problem with my install of breezy. it wants to upgrade x-common from1.06 to 1.08 but i get an error every time.05:33
fossaE: /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.08_all.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/X11/fonts', which is also in package xfonts-base05:34
gxcme too05:34
nomasteryodafossa, just wait on the next upgrade05:34
Amaranthfile a bug report and don't upgrade that package until it's fixed05:34
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nomasteryodafossa, we have been having that issue today05:34
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naliothAmaranth: that bug has been asked about nigh on 100 times already tonight05:35
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theconartistis there a problem with the ubuntu repo for breezy?05:35
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fossai c05:35
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crimsuntheconartist: a problem?05:35
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Amaranthnalioth: I think another person is about to ask. ;)05:35
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nomasteryodatheconartist, just that it is in constant development and changes rapidly05:36
theconartistcrimsun, nvm05:36
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theconartistwait nope05:36
EduOk!... I have a Toshiba 325CDS and I installed the brezzy 5.1 from a image cd... after cd is done and machine try to boot by the hard disk I got a /dev/hda1 not found05:36
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craftehMy friend said there is some apt server that has all kinds of packages that the main one doesn't ... like sun's java jre/jdk ... how do I add this server and find out about it?05:36
poyieei!! can u pls help me how to install plugins in firefox05:36
nomasteryodacrimsun, how can theconartist turn off apm? it seems to be an issue for him05:36
nomasteryodabreezy that is he is using05:36
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Amaranthcrafteh: due to legal issues it doesn't exist anymore05:36
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Amaranthcrafteh: well, it exists but it doesn't have that stuff on it05:37
EduActually it is " Alert! /dev/hda1 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!"   Why is that?05:37
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BlueEagleNice. Opera 8.5 is now free (as in free beer).05:37
craftehah... I heard its not "official"... but that there is still one?05:37
BlueEagleYes, the advertisments are gone.05:37
durtwhy do the fonts look worse in the debian sid version of opera as opposed to the ubuntu version05:37
Serenity-is there any other way to run games other than paying for Cedega ?05:37
shaoqii tried to install codec, but i met with some errors05:37
theconartistnomasteryoda, i just removed ampd05:37
nomasteryodaBlueEagle, nice05:37
nomasteryodaok05:37
ghelmga gago05:37
shaoqii followed https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats instructions05:37
Amaranthcrafteh: there isn't one that i'm aware of, the one that had them is gone05:37
fossai'm also having a problem getting xfce4-themes05:37
shaoqibut it says w32codecs couldnt be found05:38
nomasteryodaSerenity-, you can install winex using the svn method....05:38
theconartistbut for some ugly reason i have to remove ubuntu-desktop with it which supposedly "can cause problems" according to it's pkg info05:38
nomasteryodabut not that easy05:38
fossait depdnds on xfce4-panel , so quits, but i have xfce4-panel installled05:38
shaoqiwhat's wrong?05:38
craftehAmaranth: ok thanks05:38
Serenity-ive used svn on my winbox before05:38
nomasteryodaSerenity-, ok05:38
craftehHow can I get mysql 4.3 from apt?05:38
Serenity-not the easiest though lol05:38
nomasteryodaSerenity-, i got it on this one before moving to hoary05:38
craftehit seems to only have 4.0 :\05:38
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AmaranthSerenity-: join #cedega, they should be able to help you with that05:39
eagleyeIm new, can someone help me, need help bad05:39
Serenity-Amaranth: thanks :)05:39
nomasteryodaAmaranth, thanks05:39
ColonelKernelfor instance - why doesnt glxgears give you any output in the text window?05:39
Amaranthcrafteh: 4.3 isn't packaged for ubuntu yet, appearently05:39
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AmaranthColonelKernel: known bug05:39
[Lut] whenever i try adding an icon to the desktop, it never appears - but if i look in the desktop folder the link icon is definately there05:39
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nomasteryodaeagleye, just ask the question05:39
nomasteryodasomeone will try05:39
crimsunfossa: where did you install xfce4-themes?05:39
ColonelKerneland theres no link to Open Terminal with you right click on the desktop05:39
AmaranthColonelKernel: though the output it gave was worthless anyway05:39
shaoqii tried to install codec, but i met with some errors05:39
eagleyedont know where to start, linux is extremely new to me..05:39
shaoqii followed https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats instructions05:39
naliothColonelKernel: that is a gnome decision05:39
shaoqibut it says w32codecs couldnt be found05:39
ColonelKernelAmaranth, maybe to you, I found it informative.05:39
theconartistNO EVIL05:39
fossacrimsun it did not install; it refuses.05:39
theconartistDIE EVIL05:39
durtfossa, i get that error too :(05:39
AmaranthColonelKernel: nautilus-open-terminal package05:40
theconartistits still doing it05:40
theconartistomg05:40
nomasteryoda!newbies05:40
ubotunomasteryoda: What?05:40
tritiumdoing what, theconartist ?05:40
craftehAmaranth: sorry for all these newb questions... I'm switching from Gentoo so I don't know much about apt... does apt have stable/unstable versions of software like gentooo's portage system?05:40
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AmaranthColonelKernel: how so? it's not a benchmarking tool05:40
crimsunfossa: that doesn't answer my question regarding the package's origin05:40
naliothcrafteh: no05:40
theconartisttritium, using apm05:40
AmaranthColonelKernel: it's mostly used to make sure hardware acceleration is working, which you can see by watching the gears themselves05:40
ColonelKernelAmaranth, it is in its own way.05:40
craftehnalioth: thanks05:40
tritiumcrafteh, there's a stable release, and a release currently under development05:40
crimsunfossa: furthermore, please answer that question for xfce4-panel05:40
eagleyeWhat is x window05:40
ColonelKernelit will let you know how efficiently its working05:40
fossain synaptic, i clicked the box to install xfce4-panel05:40
naliothcrafteh: you have to go out of your way to get "unstable" stuff05:41
Serenity-xwindows is the desktop enviroment05:41
fossawhen i click the box on xfce-themes it says "requires but will not install xfce-panel"05:41
nomasteryodaeagleye, your GUI ... where you mouse around... =)05:41
eagleyeI cant figure out how to install programs and stuff..05:41
durtxfce-panel is version 4.2.2, but the themes require only 4.0.0, does this mean the themes are too old?05:41
nalioth!tell eagleye about synaptic05:41
poyiehow to install tar.gz?05:42
poyiehow to install tar.gz?05:42
poyiehow to install tar.gz?05:42
eagleyeI did figure that out somewhat05:42
poyiehow to install tar.gz?05:42
poyiehow to install tar.gz?05:42
codomaniac???05:42
tritiumpoyie, please stop that05:42
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Serenity-synaptic is your friend05:42
Serenity-you learn that reading the documents05:42
Serenity-poyie .. asking once is enough05:42
codomaniacuntar it man poyie05:42
Serenity-tar -xvf filename.tar05:42
Serenity-or something05:42
eagleyeHow do you install something like Yahoo messenger that I downloaded05:42
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Serenity-tar -xvf filename.tar.gz05:42
Serenity-sorry05:42
nomasteryodaeagleye, why not just use gaim?05:43
tritiumeagleye, you know that gaim supports yahoo messenger protocol?05:43
tristanmikeeagleye, Gaim is MSN, Yahoo, etc05:43
knuckleswhere can i find info on ubuntu repository?05:43
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nomasteryodaeven jabber which is the gmail chat05:43
locomorto!repository05:43
ubotulocomorto: Are you smoking crack?05:43
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nomasteryoda!tell knuckles about repos05:43
knucklesthank you05:43
nomasteryodanp05:43
eagleyeOk, not tried that yet05:43
Serenity-woohoo 1 hour to go on my download lol05:43
Serenity-big file :)05:44
smxegad .. has anyone else had cd burner problems with a 2.6 version kernel? Please... help....05:44
vg3no05:44
fossawell thanks anyway05:44
IcemanV91 hr? you're on dial-up?05:44
nomasteryodaSerenity-, you in Wisconsin?05:44
Serenity-no, my cable connection is shared with my entire apartment complex05:44
eagleyeIs there anything that I should get to help me get used to this, I am a diehard windows user, until my drive blew up05:44
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Serenity-nomasteryoda: Illinois05:44
nomasteryodak05:44
nomasteryodawell that was kinda close05:45
Serenity-not too far :)05:45
nomasteryodamadisonriver05:45
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naliotheagleye: library books05:45
eagleyelol05:45
Serenity-yeah, my cable company is a subsidary of their's05:45
nomasteryodageorgia here05:45
Madpilot!tell eagleye about docs05:45
nomasteryodanalioth, LOL05:45
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linnernalioth: hey there05:46
nomasteryodasome libraries are just too darn behind the times on Linux books... but the basics are there in most05:46
IcemanV9Serenity-: i'm from roselle .. you?05:46
nomasteryodaeven with old unix books05:46
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Serenity-normal05:46
Amaranthpoyie: please don't spam with repeat messages anymore05:46
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Serenity-well bloomington/normal05:46
smxno more "hdx=ide-scsi" ...  but how do you find the scsi interface to the drive?  I know this will be ignored, but I am so frustrated ...05:46
theconartistomg im mother freakin mad05:46
linnerooohhh I'm so frustrated.... one full week of trying to get a friggin' distro on my system... and the only two that work are MEPIS (which I hate) and SuSE which I can't figure out05:46
linner:(05:46
linnerI want UBUNTU!!!!05:46
IcemanV9yep. knew where is normal. ;)05:46
nomasteryodaSerenity-, been thru bloomington05:46
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tritiumlinner, have you tried breezy?05:47
theconartistapmd is gone, acpi=off, but it still does it05:47
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Serenity-its nice and quiet here :)05:47
Serenity-cept for the random shootings lol05:47
afaikookay guys... I have video problems and want to fix this damn problem tonight...05:47
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MadpilotThere's an actual town called Normal? That's... abnormal...05:47
Madpilot;)05:47
nomasteryodaSerenity-, yikes05:47
afaikvideos play just fine, but...05:47
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naliothMadpilot: several05:47
Serenity-lol yeah my town is called normal :)05:47
eagleyeWhere is there a good place to get stuff for unbuntu05:47
Serenity-better than Mianus05:47
afaikawhile in, it gets chopy, slows down, and the processor goes into overtime05:47
MadpilotSerenity-: and is it?05:47
afaikthis is unnacceptable :(05:47
Serenity-i'd hate to live in Mianus05:47
nomasteryodaLOL05:47
wasabiUm. I'n trying to compile a program which links against ffmpeg. It requires avformat.h, which is fine, libavformat-dev, however it can't link against the symbols... there is no shared lib.05:47
nomasteryodaROTF05:47
Serenity-Madpilot: no, far from it :)05:47
wasabiffmpeg doesn't include one.05:47
Madpiloteagleye: see the msg that ubotu sent you a minute or so ago...05:47
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wasabithere is no libavformat package05:48
afaikI have to keep stopping, restarting, and skopping to where it began skipping to finish watching05:48
afaikwtf?05:48
Chii_Chanhello05:48
Serenity-its hard to keep up in here, feels like im in a XDCC channel on dalnet05:48
Serenity-lol05:48
nomasteryodaafaik, you might want to turn on dma05:48
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nomasteryodahehe05:48
Amaranthafaik: what player?05:48
IcemanV9is everyone using Ubuntu in your apt complex, Serenity- ?? otherwise, they cannot use your bandwidth. :P05:48
nomasteryodaafaik, IMHO xine is good on ubuntu05:49
Serenity-no they arent05:49
AmaranthSerenity-: this is why when you are talking to someone you put their name before the message, like i'm doing right now with you05:49
Wizzonomasteryoda, fixed it.05:49
WizzoTouchpad now works.05:49
afaikusing_dma    =  1 (on)05:49
afaiknoatun05:49
nomasteryodaWizzo, good05:49
Serenity-Amaranth: yeah nick complete is nice :)05:49
nomasteryodaWizzo, the updates?05:49
WizzoJust changed the xorg config.05:49
WizzoNo.05:49
nomasteryodaok05:49
WizzoThey're still going.05:49
nomasteryodayea that makes sense05:49
WizzoI'm not using synaptics driver.05:49
Serenity-IcemanV9: what do you mean thay cant use my bandwidth?05:49
afaikany reason why it does this?05:49
crimsunwasabi: did it pull in libavcodec-dev and libpostproc-dev?05:50
WizzoNow it works fine. And the sensitivity doesnt change,05:50
WizzoSo it's good.05:50
wasabiYes. I have the -devs05:50
WizzoThanks for the help.05:50
wasabiThere are no actual shared libs though05:50
nomasteryodaafaik, I've never gotten  noatun to work properly05:50
afaiknow I cannot play it all05:50
wasabiIt compiles, but doesn't link.05:50
nomasteryodanp05:50
afaikpiece of crap05:50
afaikI will try xine05:50
eagleyeI want to know how to install things, example yahoo,  says to login as root then type a command then run a thing in x window, I dont understand this..05:50
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Chii_Chantry typing sudo and then the command05:50
afaikReading package lists... Done05:50
afaikBuilding dependency tree... Done05:50
afaikPackage xine is not available, but is referred to by another package.05:50
afaikThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or05:50
afaikis only available from another source05:50
nomasteryodaafaik, also add the extra repos  - restricted, etc..05:50
Chii_Chanworked for me o.o05:50
IcemanV9Serenity-: heh. share your cable connection with everyone in the apt complex. they all should be required to use Ubuntu. ... nah, never mind.05:51
Madpilot!tell eagleye about synaptic05:51
WizzoI do have another question though. How do I change what programs start at startup?05:51
esacmake dep is unnecessary now ?05:51
theconartistnomasteryoda, what is the kernel parameter for disabling acpi, acpi=off?05:51
nomasteryoda!tell afaik about repos05:51
WizzoI don't need things like spufreq and ntp.05:51
Serenity-acpi=off05:51
WizzoAnd they fail anyway.05:51
nomasteryodatheconartist, yes05:51
afaikI got all the repos05:51
naliothWizzo: system > prefs > sessions05:51
WizzoOk.05:51
nomasteryodaafaik, apt-get update05:51
WizzoThanks.05:51
theconartistnomasteryoda, damnit, then what is going on :(05:51
afaikSerenity-, yeah, how can I turn acpi off? or does it need to be on? for my laptop?05:51
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smxapt-get implode05:51
afaiknomasteryoda, I already did that05:51
tritiumtheconartist, stay calm.  It'll be okay.  Take a deep breath05:51
afaikI needed to get w32 codecs05:51
nomasteryodaafaik, then xine should be there...05:51
nomasteryodayes05:52
nomasteryodai'm gonna go kill some tanks... bbl05:52
durtwhat game nomasteryoda?05:52
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crimsunwasabi: where does it barf? which -l?05:52
theconartisttritium, no it wont!!!!11!1one!05:52
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afaikmy sound server crashed05:52
Wizzonalioth, there is nothing in the startup menu.05:53
afaikI installes xine-ui05:53
wasabicrimsun, not sure... i gues it might be a build error, which is fine, I just need to know what -l I should fix it with05:53
wasabi -lmp3lame -lavcodec -lcrypto -lmysqlclient -ldl -lz -ljpeg05:53
wasabizm_mpeg.o(.text+0x7): In function `VideoStream::Initialise()':05:53
Serenity-man downloading at 90 KB/sec isnt fun05:53
nalioth!tell Wizzo about bum05:53
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WizzoThanks.05:54
EduFolks, I downloaded the Ubuntu 5.10 "The Breezy Badger" Preview Release my machine does not boot after I installed it from cd05:54
eagleyeWhere can I get different backgrounds and stuff?05:54
Chii_Chananyone here know much about ndiswrapper? >.<05:54
Serenity-Edu: more info please :)05:54
tritiumEdu, what happens?  Do you see the grub boot loader?05:54
EduI got a /dev/hda1 does not exist05:54
tokyeagleye: gnome-look.org05:55
tritiumAt what point do you see that, Edu ?05:55
durtchii_chan: dont know much , but i use it05:55
tokyeagleye: KDE-look.org05:55
smxi ran apt-get install newporn   all i got was an ad for Wheel of Fortune05:55
afaikhow can I hide the xine controller?05:55
naliotheagleye: www.deviantart.com05:55
crimsunwasabi: lavcodec is satisfied by libavcodec-dev; it looks like another issue05:55
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EduOk, after I installed the image from cd disk, machine asked me to remove the cd and hit enter to reboot.. then....05:55
afaikit covers the damn screen while watching the video full screen?05:55
eagleyeThank you much05:55
afaikanyway to hide it?05:56
Madpilot!+themese05:56
ubotuMadpilot: Not a clue05:56
Madpilot!+themes05:56
ubotumethinks themes is at http://art.ubuntu.com -  http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/ - http://www.guistyles.com05:56
Chii_ChanDurt... for some reason I can get linux to detect my wireless lan card, it even detects the networks in the area.  But when connected to the network (I think it is anyways) I cannot use the internet >.<05:56
wasabicrimsun, yeah, I just figured out hwo to complete disable ffmpeg/av support.05:56
Chii_ChanRight now Im connected via ethernet cable to my network but I want to get wireless working05:56
Madpiloteagleye: see ubotu above ^^^05:56
Eduthen... it starts to uncompress LINUX  (load the kernel run initrd, save default boot)  and there are some messages about05:56
wasabiLooks liek the apt doesn't really require it that much05:56
crimsunwasabi: are you messing with vlc? ;)05:57
wasabizoneminder.com05:57
afaikplease, how do I just hide the xine controller?05:57
crimsunwasabi: ah.05:57
Edufiles that exists. Than I get : " ALERT! /dev/hda1 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!"05:57
Serenity-Edu: you may need to edit the grub.conf file05:57
Serenity-grub.conf may have the wrong hda in there05:57
Serenity-if you have a live cd you can use it to view the actual hda listing05:58
durtchii_chan, have you activated the card with through the gnome network manager?05:58
eagleyeAnymore useful sites would be appreciated, Cool stuff, etc..05:58
Chii_ChanI believe so...05:58
Edutritium: grub boot loader? ... I am not sure... I have the error messages in the other machine (the one I am trying to install) but doesn't say grub boot loader05:58
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sjohnsonhey dudes, anyone know how to burn an .IMG in linux?05:59
Chii_Chanimg isnt that the same as an iso or other cd image?05:59
Serenity-cd image file05:59
Chii_ChanIf so that should be on the newbie forums, the program that does that05:59
tritiumeagleye, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation05:59
afaikgod linux apps are trash :(05:59
EduSerenity: where is tht file? what do I have to put there06:00
EduSerenity: i06:00
Chii_Chanhow would I access the gnome network manager?06:00
Serenity-Edu: i have no clue :)06:00
theconartistomfg i hate the thinkpad APM06:00
crimsuntheconartist: what model TP?06:00
theconartistcrimsun, r3106:00
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Serenity-!tell Edu grub06:00
afaikall my stuff keeps crashing06:00
sjohnsonhmm having no luck, anyone know which program to burn .IMG files with?06:00
Serenity-!tell Edu grub.conf06:00
Serenity-:(06:01
theconartistafaik, you are trash06:01
Chii_Changrub is a boot loader06:01
naliothSerenity-: it's "tell <nick> about <factoid>"06:01
EduSerenity: I have a live cd  the hda list looks fine when I boot with the live cd... the machine even works with the live cd! :-)06:01
Serenity-oh06:01
Serenity-!tell Edu about grub.conf06:01
Chii_ChanA menu which allows you to load the different OS on yoru computer06:01
Serenity-!tell Edu about grub06:01
theconartistlol06:01
Serenity-there we go06:01
Serenity-sorry it took so many tries :(06:01
Chii_Chan!tell me gnome network manager06:01
Chii_Chanbleh06:02
Chii_Chanit has no help for me >.<06:02
theconartist!tell theconartist HOW TO MAKE APM NOT BE STUPID06:02
nalioththeconartist: easy mister06:02
crimsunR31 eh?06:02
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theconartistubotu> No, theconartist, I won't.06:02
ubotutheconartist: Did you get hit by a windmill?06:02
crimsuntheconartist: why aren't you using ACPI?06:02
theconartistubotu, worse06:02
ubotutheconartist: I haven't a clue06:02
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Serenity-so i think i will spend all day sunday getting the svn of winex and compiling it :)06:03
Serenity-will be a fun learning experience :)06:03
docgnomedoes anyone have any experience with ppp connections in ubuntu?06:03
theconartistcrimsun, the problem is something is probing the battery monitor06:03
theconartistand i cant figure out wtf it is06:04
knucklesmy system works like a charm thank you06:04
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Chii_Chanfaust?06:04
Chii_ChanFaustian from PE? lol06:05
Chii_ChanSorry if not, but the name is familiar06:05
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IceDragonhmm06:05
IceDragonok06:05
docgnomeI have done pppconfig and set up my connection... it won't dial unless i change the init string to atm1dt<number> then it dials and gets up to the login, but it doesn't sent the username or the password, instead it sends... AT^M06:05
IceDragongot ubuntu reinstalled06:05
IceDragondidnt fux0r with anything06:05
IceDragonhow would I install a tar package now?06:05
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tritiumIceDragon, there is no ubuntu package of what you want to install?06:06
drummer87firefox is working :) had to killall firefox-bin06:06
Chii_ChanHow would I access gnome network manager?06:06
IceDragonnope06:06
IceDragonI got cedega06:06
IceDragon:-\06:07
drummer87how do i install fonts in ubuntu?? i have some .ttf files06:07
Serenity-there are docs on the cedega site06:07
Serenity-or join #cedega06:07
theconartisthow do i search for packages with apt06:07
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docgnometheconartist: apt-cache search <string>06:07
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Serenity-theconartist: or you could use Synaptic06:08
nalioth!tell IceDragon about cli06:08
dabaRor aptitude aptitude search packageName06:08
crimsuntheconartist: does it display in the framebuffer correctly?06:08
naliothdrummer87: put any TTF font in your home directory in .fonts06:08
Serenity-oh yeah, forgot about aptitude :)06:08
tritiumtheconartist, with apt-cache search06:08
inthenowdid they fix xcommon yet?06:08
IceDragonoh another question06:09
inthenowoh no they didnt fix xcommon06:09
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Serenity-does ubuntu use Xorg ?06:09
inthenowya06:09
inthenowit uses xorg06:09
drummer87nalioth, i have no .fonts folder, do i just make one?06:09
IceDragonHow do I get linux to read from my ntfs partition, using the pre-installed ntfs module that came with ubuntu hoary06:09
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Serenity-okay, cause i was reading that xorg has my video card working pretty well06:09
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naliothdrummer87: yes06:09
theconartistanyone know the kernel sources package?06:09
theconartist+name06:09
nalioth!tell IceDragon about ntfs06:09
inthenowIceDragon: mount -t ntfs /dev/device /mnt/c06:10
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docgnomeIceDragon: That is a good way to screw up your ntfs partition, in my experience.06:10
Chii_ChanHow would I access gnome network manager?06:10
La_PaRCatheconartist, linux-headers-$(uname -r)06:10
Serenity-if i dual boot i should make my windows partition fat32 right?06:10
Serenity-linux likes it better right?06:10
docgnomeyes06:10
inthenowoh ok yes it screwed up my ntfs partition. thats what did it. dont do it06:10
cafuego_Serenity-: Only if you plan on writing data to it from Linux.06:10
Serenity-and what do i wanna install first, linux or windows?06:11
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naliothSerenity-: if you want to share files tween linux and windows, yes06:11
Serenity-yeah I'm going to do sharing06:11
cafuego_Serenity-: Install WIndows first, then Linux.06:11
inthenowntfs reading is experimental06:11
dabaRChii_Chan: System, Admin, Networking.06:11
naliothSerenity-: windows loves the taste of linux boot loaders, it should go first06:11
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Serenity-lol okay :)06:11
cafuego_Serenity-: Note that WIndows can read from and write to ext2 and ext3 just fine.06:11
Serenity-too bad i cant just resize this one06:11
wasabicrimsun, still having some trouble, maybe you can help. ;)06:11
wasabi/usr/lib/libavformat.a(ogg.o)(.text+0x44): In function `ogg_write_header':06:11
wasabi: undefined reference to `ogg_stream_init'06:11
Serenity-but i hate partition magic06:11
inthenowremeber boys and girls. If you steal windows you are supporting it06:11
docgnomecafuego_: since when?06:11
wasabiLooks like it's just missing a -logg or -lvorbis or something.06:11
wasabiBut I'm not sure how to modify the make files to include it.06:12
cafuego_Serenity-: I head the Ubuntu partition manager cna resize ntfs without problems. Just defrag it first.06:12
IceDragondocgnome, I just want to listen to music is all06:12
cafuego_docgnome: ext2fsd (sourceforge)06:12
Serenity-i'll just do a clean install, its about time for it06:12
Serenity-its been about 2 years06:12
Serenity-lol06:12
inthenowstop using windows. ubuntu which is free mind do everything and more06:12
yuyudhanaI have problem with ping. ping <ip> works fine. ping <hostname> sends out packets only in 10 sec intervals instead of 1 sec intervals. The ethereal trace shows ping trying reverse DNS lookup twice with a delay of 5 sec in between the two reverse lookups. In that 10 sec interval ctrl-c has no effect. I cant kill ping !!06:12
inthenowmight do everything and more06:12
tritiuminthenow, they can use whatever they want06:12
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inthenowtritium: yes they can06:12
drummer87thanks nalioth06:12
crimsunwasabi: yeah, libogg-dev. Is ./configure working correctly?06:13
inthenowyes they can06:13
Chii_Chanokey06:13
cafuego_yuyudhana: Try ctrl-backslash06:13
Serenity-inthenow: unfortunately i require windows for a few applications :(06:13
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wasabicrimsun, I suspect ./configure forgets about it. Buggy.06:13
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inthenowSerenity-: so do i but i sent it packing06:13
docgnomeinthenow: at the momment i'm trying to get ubuntu running in virtual pc, because my isp is a bunch if effing morons, and i can't connect from FreeBSD -_-06:13
dabaRyuyudhana: stop pinging things if there is no meaning behind it. If there is a meaning, you should mention it too.06:13
Chii_Chanit is activated06:13
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Chii_Chanbut when I disconnecdt my ethernet card my wireless modem even though it knows where the network is wont work06:13
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inthenowdocgnome: get on the phone and straighten the morons out06:14
dabaRChii_Chan: your wireless is not working?06:14
Serenity-friends dont let friends ping the internet :(06:14
cyphasei don't have one thankfully :)06:14
Chii_Chanit detects networks, but I cannot use the internet with it06:14
inthenowdocgnome: we all have to do our part here06:14
yuyudhanacafuego_: ctrl-backslash does not work06:14
docgnomeinthenow: No, it's a free ISP and they charge $10 a phone call.06:14
regeyathe internet is broke someone call al gore06:14
yuyudhanadabaR: I am just trying ping www.google.com06:14
dabaRChii_Chan: can you ping the router with only wireless?06:14
docgnomeI'm not gonna drop ten bucks for them to say "wull it works for us"06:14
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dabaRyuyudhana: for what reason?06:14
Serenity-i won the internet, then i started over :(06:14
wasabiHeh. I just patched the Makefile.06:14
wasabiOh well06:14
Chii_Changoing to try connecting to one of the alternate no pwed networks around to see if that works, lol06:15
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inthenowdocgnome: what are you amish ;)06:15
Chii_Chanmine has pw so that might be causing troubles06:15
yuyudhanadabaR: just find out the packet delay let us assume06:15
dabaRyuyudhana: your internet is slow?06:15
naliothtritium: insure your tongue06:15
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docgnomeinthenow: no just too poor to afford broadband and unwilling to pay for crappy dialup :-P06:15
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yuyudhanadabaR: I said ping <ip> is fine. Only ping <hostname> has the problem and I can't kill ping in between a 10 sec interval.06:16
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Serenity-25 mins until this dl is done :(06:16
tritiumnalioth, no sweat06:16
yuyudhanadabaR: BTW I am on a 256 Kbps broadband connection06:16
inthenowdocgnome: your poor cause your stealing windows.06:16
naliothtritium: no sweat = no good06:16
docgnomeinthenow: Stealing windows?06:16
dabaRyuyudhana: I do not think you have an issue. just stop pinging things, its not a game, its a network diagnostic tool.06:17
inthenowdocgnome: or no you paid for it sorry06:17
docgnomeinthenow: how am I stealing windows?06:17
tritiumnalioth, agreed06:17
docgnomeinthenow: heh well I got a free copy through my college06:17
yuyudhanadabaR: :) funny06:17
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sinnedHey guys06:17
sinnedCan someone help me with something06:17
dabaRI can help you with telling you not to ask that type of question.06:17
sinnedI was playing a game in cedega when it crashed and my resolution of gnome changed to what I was using in the game06:17
Serenity-if god meant us to have the power of ping, we would be made of silicon and wiring :(06:17
Ainvar`so whats better helix player or realplayer?06:17
crimsunbetter? from a freedom perspective, the former.06:18
Serenity-sinned: reboot?06:18
sinnedand when I try and change the resolution now, i get an error and can't06:18
docgnomeSerenity-: Ping!06:18
sinned:/06:18
Serenity-docgnome: pong!06:18
docgnome:-P06:18
sinnedThere has to be a way to manually change the resolution06:18
inthenowsinned: what game?06:18
sinnedWoW06:18
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Serenity-sinned: thats what I'm going to be installing on my linux box :)06:18
docgnomeso does anyone know anything about ppp connections?06:18
sinnedol06:18
sinnedlol06:18
Serenity-WoW = love :)06:19
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inthenowSerenity-: is that the pay online version?06:19
Ainvar`I am looking at getting WoW and GW loaded on my linux box06:19
Serenity-yeah06:19
Ainvar`that way I can say buh bye to WinXP06:19
Serenity-i pay 15.99 a month for WoW06:19
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inthenowi think i had enougth of pay online versions06:19
ompif i get rid of firefox, would epiphany still work?06:19
dabaRthe ppp stands for peer to peer06:19
crimsunomp: yes. It depends on mozilla-browser.06:19
Serenity-Ainvar`: yeah me too, i need Outlook Express and WoW to run on linux06:19
Serenity-and i can say bye bye to windows06:19
Ainvar`hehe06:19
ompcrimsun: okay thanks :)06:19
sinnedYeah06:20
naliothomp: yes06:20
sinnedwhen I try and change the resolution06:20
Ainvar`now if only I can find something similar to GrabIT and Realplayer alternative for linux and it will be for the win06:20
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docgnomeSerenity-: why not just use evolution or whatever that gnome mail client is called?06:20
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sinnedI get an error saying the xserver doesn't support xran and something plugin06:20
sinnedYou can not change the resolution06:20
Serenity-my online school requires outlook express06:20
docgnomeor KMail06:20
sinnedIs there a way to manually change the resolution?06:20
docgnomewhat?06:20
naliothSerenity-: try it with evolution06:20
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Serenity-sinned: the control pannel06:20
sinnedUgh06:21
sinnedI just said it won't let me06:21
Ainvar`why is oe a requirment? If I may ask that06:21
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Serenity-nalioth: okay ill give it a shot, worst thing that could happen, is that it doesnt work06:21
sinnednalioth, is there any way to manually change gnomes resolution06:21
sinnedCedega crashed and gnome won't let me change the resolution06:21
Serenity-sinned: you could manually edit the xorg config file06:21
Serenity-i guess06:21
sinnedWell I remember there was a way to manually reset it06:21
naliothSerenity-: have you ever heard of spoofing?06:22
sinnedbecause this has happened to me before :/06:22
Madpilot!tell sinned about fixres06:22
Serenity-ip/hostmask spoofing?06:22
naliothsinned: in a terminal type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"06:22
sinnedwtf06:22
sinnedNo please06:22
sinnedThanks Madpilot06:22
Ainvar`if I could get evolution to work with exchange 5.5 I would be happy but everything I read on it says for exchange 2000 or higher06:22
JustSteveSerenity, they probably only "support" outlook express at your school06:22
naliothSerenity-: you can 'spoof' your evolutions identity06:22
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Chii_Chanam I still on?06:23
Chii_Chantesting06:23
Serenity-JustSteve: well the classes are added by clicking a link06:23
docgnomeChii_Chan: No, You're not.06:23
docgnomeChii_Chan: :-p06:23
Serenity-im going to see if i can just manually add in the classes in a linux mail client06:23
Serenity-see if that works :)06:23
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JustSteveSerenity: well unless it's some sort of activeX junk it should be alright06:23
Serenity-well that and i can only access the site using IE06:24
ompwhat is the ubuntu-desktop package? (it wants to get removed when i remove evolution)06:24
docgnomedoes anyone know of a way that i can talk directly to my modem in ubuntu with out using pon and the like?06:24
Chii_Chanugh06:24
Ainvaruggg that means horrible website design06:24
Serenity-firefox doesnt work with it06:24
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Chii_Chanstupid thing can SEE the networks but not use it :/06:24
dabaRomp: it is a package that has a list of all things that make up the common ubunut desktop. Whenever you remove a packlage that is part of the standard ubuntu dekstop, like evolution, it will be removed. It is fine, since it is only a list of packages, some call it a metapackage.06:24
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Ohmeranybody with a tv card and sound with the tv on breezy ?06:25
OhmerI lost my tv sound in the upgrade :(06:25
ArkainiumI keep getting this really annoying problem.  Every once in a while gnome won't finish loading my desktop and complains about a HAL error. What should I do?06:25
eagleyeIm so confused... :(06:25
ompdabaR: oh that explains it, thanks a lot  (i just change from gentoo to ubuntu breezy so i don06:26
ompahh06:26
naliotheagleye: about what?06:26
ompdon't know much about it)06:26
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eagleyeinstalling things..  I know about synaptic, but how the heck do you install something you downloaded06:27
docgnomeArkainium: Don't take your box on a long trip into space with you?06:27
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naliotheagleye: what do you want to install that isnt in synaptic?06:27
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tritiumeagleye, with dpkg.  What did you download?06:27
eagleyeyahoo messenger, Im used to it.06:27
tritiumeagleye, you don't want to try gaim?06:28
yuyudhanaeagleye: Use dpkg -i <name of yahoo msgr package>06:28
JustSteveyahoo messenger for linux is UGLY like 199506:28
tritiumthe linux version of yahoo messenger is not like the windows version you're used to06:28
eagleyeyes, the debian version06:29
crimsuntritium gets the understatement award =)06:29
valteatalking about yahoo.. i cant connect to my yahoo chat using gaim06:29
Serenity-woohoo i just checked out the tech support for my school, they say i can use linux, but have to call in and setup the accounts manually06:29
eagleyeme neither06:29
naliothSerenity-: see? they are reasonable folks06:30
tritiumcrimsun, :)06:30
docgnomeSerenity-: Punch them in the teeth while you are at it for being big dorks.06:30
naliothSerenity-: they06:30
nalioth're probably glad you ARE using linujx06:30
Serenity-lol just in case, im going to write down all the ports/address on paper06:30
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eagleyelook on the yahoo download page, and see how it says to install the debian version..Im confused about that.06:30
Serenity-so i can just manually add them in after i reinstall06:30
valteaanyone have tried?06:31
anethemahey does anyone know how to burn a .IMG file in ubuntu (to dvd)06:31
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anethemagnomebaker says it doesnt recognize the format06:32
valteais there somekind of a netmeeting client06:33
naliothanethema: use cdrecord06:33
naliothvaltea: gnomemeeting06:33
Bicchii noticed that my open applications in my taskbar take too much space. how can i shorten the amount of information that gets displayed there. i am using gnome offcourse.06:33
eagleyewhere do I use dbkg -i , in what?06:33
valteathanks06:33
anethemahmmm06:33
anethemalike..06:33
anethemahow will cdrecord know the format?06:33
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anethemaif it isnt in ISO format wont cdrecord balk ?06:34
cafuego_why would cdrecord care?06:34
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cafuego_It's just data. Just burn it.06:34
anethemabecause if its not just raw data it wont record properly06:34
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docgnomegosh... i had that BSOD screen saver on06:34
cafuego_Not _properly_, different issue.06:34
anethemaif it was just data like an iso or whatever i think gnomebaker would do it06:34
docgnomehad a moment of panic there...06:35
cafuego_anethema: loop mount it, see what's on it.06:35
anethemaok06:35
eagleyewhere do I type this in at dpkg -i <name of package, blah blah06:35
valteausing gmome meeting i found that my ubuntu does not recognise my Webcam06:36
valteaits logitech webcam06:36
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valteausb Device06:36
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Serenity-woohoo 5% to go :D06:36
IceDragonjust got back06:36
IceDragonokay06:36
IceDragonran the script ot mount the ntfs drives06:36
IceDragonand it was successful06:36
IceDragonnow where do I find where it mounted to?06:36
wasabiSep 23 23:36:58 localhost mysqld[22682] : mysqld got signal 11;06:37
wasabigreat.06:37
valteaany help in configuring my webcam06:37
Serenity-i hate how long it takes to reinstall windows.. thats like an hour of my life im not getting back06:37
Serenity-lol06:37
ompis there an apt-get command to list all installed packages?06:37
eagleyewhere do I type this in at dpkg -i <name of package, blah blah, sorry Im stupid, this is all new to me..06:37
crimsunomp: no, but there's dpkg -l06:37
anethemacafuego, wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop1,06:37
valteaeagleye,  type that in the terminal06:37
anethemaso obviously not in iso format06:37
ompcrimsun: that's good enough, thanks06:37
valtearightclick on the desktop06:37
valteaand open terminal06:37
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eagleyethank you06:38
Madpiloteagleye: cd to whatever directory has the deb file in it, then do the dpkg stuff06:38
eagleyeok, kinda like dos right06:38
valteacon someone help me. my webcam is not being detected06:38
BROKEN_LADDERthis article on /. is hilarious.  We calculated that, if acetylene is reacting with the hydrogen gas to turn it back into methane, quite a bit of energy is being released. So that's our basis for saying there is something to eat on Titan. We don't know if there are any customers, but there's something on the menu."06:38
dabaRomp: dpkg -l |less will help you read it.06:38
valteayes eagleye06:38
valteai would rather say Dos is like Linux06:38
valteahehhe06:38
ompdabaR: yah i know :)06:38
anethemacafuego, any idea?06:39
ompdabaR: i'm not new to linux, just new to ubuntu06:39
dabaRah, yes, you said so.06:39
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cdemwellHi06:39
eagleyeare the commands the same as dos.. or a bit different..06:39
cdemwellI'm having the damnedest time with a new kubuntu install06:40
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anethemadoes -anyone- know how to burn a .img file?06:40
cdemwellAll the users on the system see applications appropriately in the k menu, and can edit the k menu with kmenuedit... excpet steve06:40
glickhello all06:40
cdemwellPoor steve!06:40
naliothanethema: use cdrecord06:40
sambagirli install breezy but is nothing happening06:40
cdemwellnothing happens for him.06:40
valteaanethema, try Nero Linux06:40
cdemwellI've seen several posts about it in the forums, but no replies06:40
mgcrosshello all!06:40
glickubuntu is great!06:40
glickhowever...06:41
anethemanalioth, it isnt gonna work unless i can figure out some custom way to write the format06:41
glickit, nor any linux is for the run of the mill average computer user06:41
Serenity-so if i dont care about reading my windows partition in linux, i can leave it NTFS right?06:41
glicki installed ubuntu for a friend of mine06:41
glicka business dude06:41
naliothanethema: did you read the manpage?06:41
glickand i am recommending him to go back to windows06:41
mgcrossQuick question if I may...moving from an nvidia mx400 to a 6600gt...will I need to reinstall drivers...not sure...06:41
anethemathe word img not found06:41
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Madpiloteagleye: different from dos... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands for some basics06:41
Serenity-mgcross: probably06:42
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mgcrosshmmm...aptget purge nvidia-glx?06:42
sjohnsonwhein06:42
MadpilotSerenity-: yes, but you can mount your ntfs partition read-only06:42
naliothanethema: http://www.google.com/search?q=burn+.img+linux&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-806:42
Chii_Chanwhat is the command which is needed to do admin/root stuff?  its a four letter one but I dont remember it off the top of my head right now >.,06:43
eagleyethank you06:43
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crimsunChii_Chan: sudo06:43
Chii_Chanty ^.^06:43
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IceDragonWhats a good media player for linux comparative to winamp?06:43
cdemwellwell, this sucks06:43
sjohnsonnalioth: i've googled that before, no luck06:43
cdemwellIf I can't solve this issue, Steve will want windows back06:43
cdemwellThat's not good06:43
naliothsjohnson: hmmm06:43
holycowIceDragon, beep media player06:43
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sjohnsonhow do i found out the x,x,x scsi mapping for my burner?06:44
Chii_Chanlinux is not for people unwilling to learn and experiment I am finding out06:44
anethemanalioth, while i do apreciate help, dont get me wrong, just pointing me to a google link which i was already looking at doesnt help me much :)06:44
mgcrossicedragon: beep or xmms..but I prefer amarok to both06:44
naliothanethema: sorry mister.06:44
glickhehe yet he refuses to take my advise06:44
anethemai do apreciate help though06:44
crimsunsjohnson: use /dev/hdX unless you have an actual SCSI burner06:44
glickhe says his system has never run so stable in its entire history06:44
mrchicagohay anyone know how to publish on sourceforge06:44
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glickand that a person has to be a moron to use the basic features06:44
sjohnsoncrimsun: can i just use cdrecord to burn dvd images without anything fancy?06:45
Serenity-woohoo time to burn ubuntu :)06:45
Serenity-brb06:45
mrchicagoheh06:45
crimsunsjohnson: I think you want dvd+rw-tools06:45
Serenity-make bootable disk right?06:45
Serenity-lol06:45
Serenity-sorry im half tired doing this06:45
crimsunsjohnson: or the "pro" version of cdrecord, which is non-free and not in the Ubuntu repo06:45
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IceDragonmgcross, is it GUI06:46
naliothcrimsun: yes, the prodvd is very hard to locate06:46
mrchicagoi wrote a program that lets you increse the brightness of the monitor how can i put it up on sourceforge06:46
IceDragoncommand line media players are .... ehh06:46
Serenity-do i do burn image or make bootable disk06:46
Serenity-i forgot :(06:46
mrchicagomkiso06:46
Serenity-im in windows06:46
Serenity-lol06:46
mrchicagoor mkisofs06:47
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mrchicagooh ok06:47
mrchicagonever mind06:47
Serenity-using Nero right now06:47
MadpilotSerenity-: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto06:47
mrchicagosorry06:47
eagleyeWhat does this mean...>>>eagleye@eagleye:~/Desktop$ dpkg -i ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb06:47
eagleyedpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege06:47
Serenity-Madpilot: thanks, sorry im tired :(06:47
mrchicagolog in as root06:47
digitizeeagleye: you have to log in a sroot06:48
digitizeas root*06:48
mrchicagoand sudo dpk -i06:48
Madpiloteagleye: use sudo06:48
mrchicagoand sudo dpkg -i06:48
Madpilotmrchicago: sudo doesn't need login as root06:48
mrchicagook06:48
Madpilot!root06:48
ubotuI guess root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo06:48
IceDragonI still have not gotten a straight answer for installing .tgz files06:48
mrchicagoeither way itll work06:48
eagleyeumm, you mean type sudo06:48
AgrajagIceDragon: that's because there's no one way to do that06:48
naliothIceDragon: unarchive them, read the documentation inside and proceed06:48
IceDragonoh06:48
nalioth!tell IceDragon about cli06:49
Madpilotmrchicago: except there's no root by default in Ubuntu...06:49
mrchicagotar zxvf yada.gz.tgz06:49
IceDragonso I just put them in the corresponding folders06:49
Agrajagis it a binary? source tarball? with or without autoconf?06:49
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IceDragonI can untar fine06:49
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mrchicagothen ./configure06:49
naliothIceDragon: there are many things inside a tgz06:49
mrchicagomake make install06:49
Madpiloteagleye: what are you trying to install via dpkg?06:49
naliothno make install06:49
IceDragonso when using the tar command, where does the file need to be?06:49
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mrchicagomake && make install06:49
naliothuse "checkinstall" instead of "make install"06:49
eagleyeyahoo messenger06:49
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Madpiloteagleye: use GAIM, it'll do yahoo and a bunch of other IM stuff - and it's pre-installed in Ubuntu...06:50
eagleyeheres where it is..and says how to..http://messenger.yahoo.com/unix.php06:50
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eagleyeI tried it. dont work06:51
mrchicagois it an rpm06:51
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cafuego_yahoo messenger is broken06:52
cafuego_Use gaim instead.06:52
Serenity-use Gaim06:52
Serenity-its a nice program :)06:52
mgcrossIceDragon: yes...it's GUI...also has more features than xmms or winamp could ever have hoped for...gives you lyrics and band info for the currecntly playing song...excellent playlist managment...too much to name06:52
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dabaRuse centericq06:52
Madpiloteagleye: so "sudo dpkg -i <whatever.deb>" if Gaim is really busted...06:52
valteai wanted the KDE desktop06:53
bjronanyone got an idea why the "clear search history" option has dissapeared from the right-clicke menu in the search box of firefoxL06:53
eagleyeok, will try that, thank you, I will give it a shot..06:53
bjronL06:53
bjron?06:53
valteainstead of Gnome06:53
Serenity-i should probably run a degrag before repartitioning the hd06:53
Serenity-lol06:53
valteai tried to install it with synaptic06:53
Chii_Chanbah >.<  this ndiswrapper is driving me up or through the wall >.<06:53
valteabut there are so many packeges06:53
Chii_Channot sure which06:53
La_PaRCaI think the yahoo mesenger thing is an .rpm06:53
valteai dont know which one to chose06:53
naliothSerenity-: only if you want to keep your data (thought you were gonna redo the whole thing)06:53
dabaRkubuntu-desktop, is the one you want.06:53
Serenity-valtea: the kde core and dependences06:53
valteacan someone tell me which one is the KDE desktop06:54
dabaRSerenity-: no, what I said.06:54
valteaonly that?06:54
Serenity-okay06:54
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Serenity-sorry dabaR06:54
dabaRvaltea: see what it pulls along with itself.06:54
Serenity-just trying to help :(06:54
dabaRSerenity-: gimme 20./06:54
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Serenity-nalioth: i just hate reinstalling windows06:54
Serenity-takes forever lol06:54
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spackestso I contend that the postgres that comes with 5.04 is broken06:54
naliothSerenity-: your choice06:54
valteathanks alot06:55
Serenity-oh hey, with OpenOffice can you make PowerPoints?06:55
dabaRSerenity-: I know, thats cool. dont respond if you are not sure. and...learn from responses from people that are sure.06:55
crimsunSerenity-: you can make presentations, yes.06:55
Serenity-sweet06:55
sjohnsondoes anyone use k3b? does it burn .IMG files?06:55
Serenity-i have to make PowerPoint presentations for one of my classes :)06:55
dabaRcrimsun: ya, I like that word better, I always hate when ppl use powerpoints to refer to presentations.06:55
spackestpostgres?  anyone use postgres in ubuntu?06:55
anethemayeah i';d also like to know06:55
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anethemacan k3b do it ?06:55
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Serenity-lol okay guys im going to go reinstall windows06:56
eagleyei did that sudo thing and it asked for password, then it said this>dpkg: status database area is locked by another process06:56
Serenity-then install ubuntu06:56
snausagesso do some people say, "i just powerpointed this"06:56
Serenity-wish me luck :)06:56
dabaRSerenity-: good luck.06:56
Serenity-thanks!06:56
cafuego_powerpoint is a registered trademark, you can't call it that.06:56
cafuego_Just use Impress.06:57
snausagesshe's reinstalling windows?06:57
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boneeo need help on GDM06:57
boneewont work anymore06:57
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cafuego_snausages: Yeah, it's a 2 year old, install, probably best to reinstall the whole lot.06:57
concept10dabaR: See, thats the problem.  Microsoft has us believing there is only one way to do a task06:57
snausageswhew, 2 years06:57
dabaRbonee: give it more incentives.06:58
boneeit goes to console06:58
boneewhen i log oiut06:58
snausagesspeaking of that, i'm new to ubuntu and linux as well, but do you all find yourselves reinstalling your distro often?06:58
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dr_willissnausages,  not really06:58
naliothsnausages: you should never have to reinstall again06:58
cafuego_snausages: No.06:58
boneeits not the graphic card06:58
snausagesunless you screw up something irrepairable huh06:59
naliothsnausages: *nix is designed that way06:59
cafuego_snausages: My oldest linux box has been alive for 7 years.06:59
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boneeBRB06:59
snausagesthat's nice to know06:59
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cafuego_All hardware got replaced during that time, but the software didn't :-)06:59
dr_willisof course some times its just easier to  backup your HOME and reinstall. I like to test out the new installers and learn what 'defaults' some disrtos use and so forth.06:59
naliothsnausages: there are several famous boxen that have uptime of over 5 years06:59
snausagesnice06:59
Madpiloteagleye: you can't use dpkg if Synaptic is also open06:59
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snausagesnalioth yeah but i imagine those are mostly servers06:59
snausagesnot home desktops06:59
snausagesright?06:59
cafuego_With my /proc/uptime patch, you too cna have a 5 year uptime after recompiling teh kernel!07:00
naliothsnausages: even with a home box, you can expect never to load an install disk again07:00
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pepsiwhats up with the screensaver in breezy?07:00
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concept10cafuego_: thats cheating!07:00
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snausagesi screwed up something and had to reinstall about 5 times now heheh07:00
crimsunI don't know, what is up with it?07:01
snausagesi'm new though so07:01
pepsithere are 2 of them07:01
crimsun(it works for me)07:01
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dr_willisof course - some times its easier to just wipe your test box when learning/breaking things. :P07:01
cafuego_concept10: I don't use it, just wrote it for someone who wanted one.07:01
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anethemawell its official, its near impossible to burn a .IMG file in linux. god damnit!07:01
pepsitheres a new one and i dont like it.. how can i use the other one?07:01
spackestso if I want to change from 5.04 to 5.10, can I just change my apt/sources.list and do an upgrade?07:01
cafuego_snausages: The only time I reinstalled was when going from 32bit to 64bit.07:01
Madpilotanethema: asked google yet?07:01
concept10my server:  23:51:08 up 26 days, 14:31,  1 user,  load average: 1.26, 1.25, 1.0107:01
crimsunpepsi: remove gnome-screensaver07:01
anethemaextensively yes thanks Madpilot :)07:01
cafuego_spackest: Once 5.10 is released, yes. I believe it would currently fail.07:01
mrchicagodid you try k3b07:01
concept10im going for the record!07:01
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anethemano07:02
mrchicagoi think it can read .img07:02
snausagescafuego_ you know what else my problem is? i want my box to be "clean" all the time, meaning, when i uninstall/reinstall crap, i have a feeling that some stuff is left behind and my machine is cluttered07:02
snausagesso i reinstall07:02
cafuego_ 15:02:10 up 190 days, 19:40,  2 users,  load average: 0.13, 0.12, 0.0407:02
anethemahave to install a ton of kde libs to get k3b going07:02
spackestmostly I would like a postgres that works a touch better07:02
cafuego_the production server07:02
docgnomeI'm trying to make a ppp connection with ubuntu and i've figured out that wvdial and pon both send ATZ to the modem and expect a response... but for some reason my modem isn't sending that response. The modem does work however as I am using it right now... Does anyone know of a way to send commands directly to my modem in Ubuntu?07:02
anethemabuuut if you say it reads .img its worth a try07:02
oblibQuestion: For some reason my Serial ATA drive (sda1) does not mount when fstab is used during boot -- it says it is not found. Is there a way to get it to mount after it recognizes the drive?07:02
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Madpilotanethema: yeah, but it's worth it. K3B is great07:02
glickubuntu uses xorg right?07:02
mrchicagoyeah it is07:02
anethemayes glenn07:02
anethemaglick,07:02
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docgnomeglick: aye.07:03
anethemak3b that much better than gnomebaker ?07:03
concept10snausages: I feel the same way.  I wish I knew how to keep the system clean, although Linux does a better job than windows07:03
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mrchicagois there any software for linux to create an avi into an mpg or mpg into dvd07:03
crimsunanethema: afaik the non-free Nero for Linux can burn them07:03
snausagesconcept10 i noticed that yeah07:03
dr_willisdust the keyboard once a week. :P07:03
snausagesha07:03
anethemacrimsun, is there a easy way to dl that?07:03
snausages:P07:03
naliothmrchicago: transcode07:03
concept10heh07:03
mrchicagoant find it anywhere07:03
crimsunanethema: check Ahead's Web site07:03
concept10my keyboard has ashes between the keys from this cigar07:04
Chii_Chanlets see if this works now07:04
Madpilotanethema: for me, GnomeBaker will only burn coasters with audio CDs; k3b will actually burn working audio CDs...07:04
anethemasays its 20 bux07:04
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bob2snausages: if packages leave things behind, it's a bug07:04
crimsunMadpilot: with the Breezy version?07:04
mrchicagofor real07:04
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mrchicagok3b is the shit07:04
Madpilotcrimsun: Hoary version07:04
anethemacrimsun, ahead says nero for linux is 20 bux :(07:04
crimsunMadpilot:07:04
mrchicagonero of linux07:04
crimsunMadpilot: err, k07:04
snausagesk3b didnt work well for me07:04
mrchicagoand you dont need a crack07:04
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ksmurfanyone have any ideas on how to get a battery moniter working on breezy with an acer laptop?07:04
anethemaoh m i see07:04
anethemaneed a nero serial07:05
mrchicagoi never had any trouble out of it07:05
concept10whats wrong with k3b?07:05
bob2ksmurf: if the "acpi -V" command does not work, file a bug07:05
anethemai dont wanna install a damn 100mb of kde libs to run one program :)07:05
snausagesi kept getting some weird error 255 or 225 messsage07:05
furicUnderstandable07:05
snausages(in k3b)07:05
dr_willis100mb - Fa! trivial.07:05
dr_willis:P07:05
anethemahaha07:05
anethemajust not anxious to clog my system then never be able to find em again to remove them07:06
anethemahaha07:06
bob2it's trivial to remove them if you instal them with aptitude07:06
concept10I dont understand why someone didnt just make a GTK version of k3b instead of trying to do something like gnomebaker, reinvent the wheel07:06
bob2which you should be using anyway07:06
pepsibob2, what does that command do? the battery monitor doesnt work for me either.. well it does work, but only after i do something like plug it, unplug, close the lid, etc, but it always tells me what it was _before_ i do that07:06
anethemarather than synaptic?07:06
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Madpilotconcept10: I've been wondering that myself...07:06
anethemalike, how will aptitude know which 100 libs installed with one program?07:06
anethemai use synaptic..no good?07:06
eagleyeseems I have dependancy problems, whatever that means07:06
furicI am wondering, when you install a bunch of programs to try them out, you pretty much allways have to install a bunch of dependecies too, but when it comes time to uninstall the ones you dont like synaptic leaves the dependencies on your system, just floating around being useless, is there some way around this bitrot?07:07
bob2pepsi: that command queries the acpi system on your laptop07:07
tritiumfuric, that's what we're recommending aptitude for07:07
bob2pepsi: which is probably what your battery applet does, too, but this cuts out some layers07:07
Amaranthfuric: deborphan and debfoster07:07
concept10Madpilot: if I knew how to do it, I would.. its just a front end for cdrrecord07:07
Amaranthfuric: oh, and aptitude07:07
bob2anethema: aptitude will know it only installed kdelibs so yo ucould use k3b, yes07:07
furicAptitude is command line, corrent?07:07
ksmurfbob2 that works but the moniters don't....  And I would like to be able to give as much info for the bug as I can so any direction on submitting an informative bug07:08
bob2furic: and curses, yes07:08
Amaranthfuric: just don't use aptitude to install/remove something that removes ubuntu-desktop, it'll remove most of your system07:08
furicIs there something x based?07:08
mrchicagoheh07:08
Madpilotfuric: there's a sort of DOS-like semi-graphical thing for aptitude...07:08
bob2ksmurf: I'd say laptop model, /var/log/dmesg output, and the output of acpi -V07:08
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furiccurses is command line07:08
bob2hah, interesting POV07:08
pepsiksmurf, does the battery monitor work at all?07:08
furicis there something x based?07:08
concept10Madpilot: If I knew how to do it, I would use Quod Libet and then add a CD burning plugin07:09
bob2pepsi: does acpi -V work for you without doing that dance?07:09
pepsiyes07:09
Madpilotconcept10: what's Quod Libet?07:09
anethemaNo support for device type: thermal07:09
anethemaheh07:09
pepsibob2, so i think my problem is just that the applet doesnt query it07:09
cafuego_!info user-mode-linux07:09
bob2pepsi: file a bug on gnome-applets, I guess07:09
concept10Madpilot: a better rhthymbox07:09
bob2ksmurf: (file it on gnome-applets, too)07:09
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concept10Madpilot: http://www.sacredchao.net/quodlibet07:10
pepsibob2, im guessing that the applet waits for an event instead of querying it.. will file a report i guess07:10
bob2pepsi: great, thanks07:11
glickdoes anyone know if google will release a full fledge google talk for linux?07:11
glickoh i hope they do07:11
glickid like talk support for linux07:11
docgnomeAye. Me too07:11
nomasteryodaglick, you mean Google07:11
nomasteryodatalk as in IM?07:11
glickyeah07:11
furicI hope google retracts the one they released on windows and sticks to search07:12
anethemayeah google's IM07:12
nomasteryodawell, i use it via the gaim jabber07:12
nomasteryodahave not even seen what the google im client looks like07:12
tristanmikeglick, so you can use Gaim for your google account07:12
glickyeah but it allows free voice talk07:12
FloKhi. i downloaded kubuntu-5.10-preview-install for a friend, a linux newbie. Does it offer a similar install gui as the distributed CDs?07:12
glickno linux clients offer voice07:12
furicSo does skype and gnome meeting and netmeeting07:12
docgnomeAnyone know how to send commands directly to a modem (/dev/ttyS0)07:12
Madpilotconcept10: Quod Libet is in Breezy's repos.. I'll have to check it out when I upgrade...07:12
WebLOCHFloK, you shouldnt have done that07:12
furicskype and gnomemeeting are both linux clients07:12
furicand skype actually has a userbase too!07:12
tristanmikeglick, skype and teamspeak are two different clients for linux for voice chatting07:13
FloKWebLOCH, ? why?07:13
WebLOCHFloK, you the 5.10 preview is not yet stable, definately not good for a newbie or anyone new to it07:13
concept10Madpilot: or compile it yourself07:13
glicktristanmike, yeah but they are inoerable with windows users07:13
anethemaand skype quality OWNS teampseak..unfortunatly it doesnt play nice with alsa07:13
WebLOCHFloK, Download 5.04 (hoary) and give them that07:13
FloKWebLOCH, i see07:13
FloKok07:13
tristanmikeglick, what do you mean?07:13
mrchicagowhat version of transcode will work with ubuntu07:13
nomasteryodaanethema, what does play well with alsa07:13
nomasteryodalol07:13
furicnomasteryoda: It looks like google as a desktop application developer makes a real good web developer07:13
anethemahaha some programs do :)07:13
bob2mrchicago: the one in ubuntu07:13
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glicktristanmike, i want something thats interoperable between linux and windows07:14
anethemawhen skype begins using alsa, ill see if i can play ut and use alsa at the same time07:14
tristanmikeglick, teamspeak is on windows07:14
anethemait uses some other fucked up library (ut does)07:14
daakuany mutt users? i'm trying to forward an email with all its attachments. and bounce doesnt work. any know know how?07:14
furicglick: Skype07:14
tristanmikeglick, and Skype07:14
anethemai agree, skype07:14
anethemavery damn easy07:14
tristanmikefuric, ;)07:14
naliothanethema: please dude. mommys are watching you07:14
mrchicagowhen i go into synapse it says it cant be installed07:14
bob2daaku: bounce should work07:15
anethemamommys?07:15
nomasteryodayes ... please use fudge07:15
bob2daaku: ie it has always worked for me07:15
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anethemahaha fudge07:15
nomasteryodawhat they told us on bzflag too07:15
anethemagotta be joking, are there 5 year olds in the room i should be careful not to have read what i say? haha07:15
nomasteryodafudge but not dam07:15
naliothanethema: yes cursing doesnt help07:16
nomasteryodahey, 12 and younger...and mothers07:16
bob2anethema: anyway, please watch your language, thanks.07:16
bob2tho I'm not sure what this has to do with mothers07:16
anethemayes yes, i can, just curious why07:16
anethemaseems pretty juvenile07:16
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nalioth!tell anethema about conduct07:16
nomasteryodajust trying to keep up good image of ubuntu...07:16
docgnomeI wanna talk to my modem directly dag nab it!07:17
bob2no, we're just trying to stay civil07:17
docgnomenone of this pon or wvdial stuff.07:17
nomasteryodabecause this is the main support channel that is in xchat on every Ubuntu CD out there07:17
anethemasorry, im a construction worker...ingrained in my vocab07:17
opteekhow do I go about making my samba server allow anon access07:17
anethemaif it slips again just kick me to remind me :007:17
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bob2docgnome: so use minicom07:17
tristanmikebesides, it's just proper etiqute, an intelligent person can get their thoughts across with out cursing07:17
bob2opteek: /etc/samba/smb.conf07:17
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WebLOCHtristanmike, i beg to differ, intelligence and vocabulary are a world apart, not that that excuses anything07:18
Bicchiis there a reason why firefox does not update its extensions. I have a few that have gone thru several updates and i still show the old version?07:18
anethemabut f*ck is such a versatile word haha07:18
furicswaring is not a measurement of intelegence07:18
opteekbob2, yeah.. uhuh...07:18
nomasteryodaanethema, so you write reports to other construction workers/bosses with that word in them?... just curious07:18
anethemahas nothing to do with intelligence or stupidity07:18
docgnomebob2: HA! i had forgoten about minicom07:18
anethemai graded top of my university class in electrical engineering, and am scaffolding untill winter hits07:18
durtif you work in the porn industry, then you need to use that word07:19
furicIf swaring meant people where dumber, every windows user would have to be the dumbest person on the planet, and there can only be one of those07:19
anethemadoesnt mean im stupid, i just enjoy swearing haha..07:19
anethemabut like i said, i wont here.07:19
opteekfsck is used07:19
nomasteryodak07:19
nomasteryodayhks07:19
glickdoes skype do adware, or anything of that nature?07:19
nomasteryodathks07:19
nomasteryodano07:19
furicglick: No07:19
FloKkubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso on german mirror is 23k size... ?07:19
anethemasure ill use fsck instead07:19
anethemaheh07:19
glickdo you use it?07:19
nomasteryodaskype... until ebay dorks it up07:19
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nomasteryodaworks very well07:20
anethemayeah07:20
furicglick: Skype is totally free and clean, they make their cash selling you viop to landline gateway access, pc to pc is free07:20
eagleyewell, thanks anyway,, I cant get anywhere... talk to you later07:20
nomasteryodamillions of people do07:20
anethemahopefully ebay will make it alsa07:20
TokenBadbah..I give up07:20
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naliothrants and cursing for pleasure can be discussed in #ubuntu-offtopic07:21
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glickto install the ubuntu version just run dpkg -i package.deb?07:21
cafuego_Skype use a proprietary voip protocol, they'll lock you in, then start charging or advertising.07:21
furicDone.07:21
pepsiafaik skype is the kazaa people07:21
glickcafuego, when they do that ill just stop using it it07:21
WebLOCHsomething ive noticed from being here07:21
docgnomeHrm... Is minicom in universe?07:22
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cafuego_glick: I bet that's what heaps of WIndows users said too about forced upgrades07:22
WebLOCHis that everyone else is a programmer07:22
naliothfuric: you didnt stay... i had a remark for you07:22
cafuego_!info minicom07:22
ubotuminicom: (friendly menu driven serial communication program), section comm, is optional. Version: 2.1-8 (hoary), Packaged size: 268 kB, Installed size: 896 kB07:22
mrchicagouh me07:22
furicskype was founded by the kazaa people, but those people sold kazaa to another company, which is the one who added the spyware07:22
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Amaranthcafuego_: Err, that doesn't tell you if it's in universe or not.07:24
TokenBadanyone walk me through mounting a cue/bin file?07:24
AmaranthTokenBad: bchunk07:24
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TokenBadAmaranth?07:24
Amaranth!info bchunk07:24
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ubotubchunk: (CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 1.2.0-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 12 kB, Installed size: 68 kB07:24
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TokenBadoh I would have to convert to iso?07:25
mrchicagowhen will the newest version of ubuntu be online07:25
Amaranthyep07:25
TokenBadthat sucks07:25
Amaranthmrchicago: october 13th07:25
Daveymrchicago, sometime in October07:25
mrchicagocool07:25
Daveythere you go07:25
pepsimrchicago, where are you from?07:25
DaveyAmaranth, so, breezy is pretty stable now?07:25
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AmaranthDavey!07:25
nomasteryodacool... Mark's the admin on Launchpad.net... wow07:25
AmaranthDavey: somewhat, they are getting in some last minute things and there are some problems with x-common07:26
Daveyah, cool07:26
WebLOCH19 days07:26
snausagesi cantwait07:26
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Amaranthalthough right now i'm on windows 2000 and don't have ubuntu installed anywhere07:26
WebLOCHhmm someone else gave me that figure07:26
mrchicagovirginia07:26
Amaranthexcept on my dead HD07:26
WebLOCHbut i believe it to be correct07:26
nomasteryodaDavey, look at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/breezy07:26
nomasteryodaer, you have to login07:26
nomasteryodabut bug list in breezy is there07:26
pepsimrchicago, lol really?07:26
Amaranthnomasteryoda: I would expect mark to be an admin on launchpad.net07:26
mrchicagoyeah nick is from a book07:27
nomasteryodaAmaranth, just cool07:27
pepsioh07:27
nomasteryodafirst time I have seen his name on any activity...07:27
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nomasteryodabut then again, I have not poked around much cept here07:27
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mrchicagohehe07:27
mrchicagoits all good07:27
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mrchicagois transcode on the cd07:28
docgnome*grunt* where can i get the minicom pkg?07:28
mrchicagoi dont know if the tar ball will install right07:28
WebLOCHAnyone here done any work with distributed computing ?07:28
naliothmrchicago: no it is not07:28
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eagleyeCan I use Gaim to log in to my yahoo account?07:28
Amarantheagleye: yes07:28
mrchicagook07:29
kataklysmsomeone help me solve this problem when doing an update:   E: /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.08_all.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/X11/fonts', which is also in package xfonts-base07:29
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glickyahoo messenger sucks07:29
glickits all sex bots07:29
eagleyeThen Why does it kick me off07:29
mrchicagoill have to do it the old fashioned way07:29
Amarantheagleye: and irc, msn, aim, and more07:29
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mrchicagoanyone have any cool repos i can add on to my source list07:29
eagleyeit says I used another machine or device....07:29
Amarantheagleye: network issues, yahoo released a new update that broke things, alignment of the planets prevents connection: pick one ;)07:29
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durtyou probably dont want to be adding random repos...07:29
NinjewHey does anybody know of a linux app that can take mp3s tagged with apev3 and change that to id3v2?07:30
nomasteryodajust ordered my Breezy discs... for our LUG...07:31
nomasteryodacan't wait07:31
eagleyewell, How do I talk to all the people that I had on yahoo messenger, when I was using windows.07:31
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nomasteryodapeople are very excited about Ubunu07:31
Amaranthnomasteryoda: i just got my hoary CDs a month ago07:31
kataklysmanyone know how to solve this problem?07:31
nomasteryodawow07:31
kataklysmsomeone help me solve this problem when doing an update:   E: /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.08_all.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/X11/fonts', which is also in package xfonts-base07:31
Amaranthnomasteryoda: so don't expect them soon07:31
daakubob2: i found mime_forward, did the job perfectly07:31
nomasteryodai don't07:31
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DaveyAmaranth, so, uhm, Smeg is default in 2.12? Good job dude :D07:31
Amaranth:D07:31
nomasteryodaAmaranth, they are good adverts for the Linux community... and Ubuntu. People like the packaging..07:32
nomasteryodatoo07:32
Amaranthif someone would kindly send me a burned cd of breezy colony 5 and a vmware for windows trial by snail mail i'd be able to work on it more07:32
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docgnomeI can't use apt-get to get any packages so i need to download one manually. anyone tell me where i can do that?07:32
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durtwhat packages docgnome?07:32
sasch1Hi, is there a possibility to install the helpsystem for openoffice?07:32
mrchicagodont debian have a huge repo07:32
nomasteryodaAmaranth, If I can I'll do better than that07:33
mrchicagoskype has one07:33
docgnomedurt: minicom to be specific.07:33
naliothAmaranth: are you completely cut off now?07:33
nomasteryodaAmaranth, I might be able to get a legal license for vmware 5 for ya07:33
nomasteryodai'll know in a few days07:33
nomasteryodahonestly07:33
Amaranthnalioth: i have a dead HD with breezy installed, a windows only dialup internet service, and no way of fixing any of this for at least a month07:33
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TokenBadis bchunk command line based?07:34
naliothTokenBad: yes it is07:34
durtdocgnome: http://alioth.debian.org/projects/minicom/07:34
pepsibob2, adding key no_hal=true to the applet in gconf seems to make the applet update every minute or so07:34
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cyphaselol, some guy was complaining that the Ubuntu installer is very hands off07:35
cyphasethat's a good thing people07:35
durtdocgnome: wait, that is in the repos, maybe you need backports and extras enabled07:35
cyphaseand you can always go with the expert installer07:35
nomasteryodais there a way to turn off the sound module loading from grub line?07:35
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docgnomeAlternatly if anyone has a clue how to tell wvdial not to wait for an ok from the init string07:36
docgnomethat would be nice07:36
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DaveyAmaranth, what keyboard do you use?07:36
WebLOCHAT&T commands, I remember the day07:36
AmaranthDavey: some generic GE thing07:36
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mochi\brbhow can i network in ubuntu?07:37
brennerstart by introducing yourself...if people like you, you end up getting connections07:38
cyphaselol07:38
mrchicagolol07:38
WebLOCHmochi\brb, you dont network ubuntu, ubuntu networks you07:38
cyphaseyou beat me to it brenner :)07:38
Passionwhat dose 'lol' mean?07:38
tritiumnomasteryoda, why not blacklist it instead?07:38
brennercyphase: heh. not too cheesy?07:38
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WebLOCHPassion,  the same as "le haha!"07:38
cyphasenope07:38
tristanmikeIs there anyway I can get my *gulp* microsoft keyboard "extra" keys to work, ie "My Music" "My Documents", etc?07:38
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docgnomeWebLOCH: Isn't that only in Soviet Russia?07:38
WebLOCHdocgnome,  haha :)07:38
WebLOCHdocgnome, In soviet russia, car drive you!07:39
cyphasetristanmike, unfourtanetly, probably not07:39
talioshow does one change a cdrom to mount with exec instead of noexec rights in ubuntu?  I don't see noexec in /etc/fstab - is something else mounting the cdrom drives?07:39
tristanmikecyphase, cool, thanx07:39
WebLOCHtristanmike, you can add the meta keys if there is mappings available for them by editing your x configs07:39
mrchicagoany hope for dvdstyler being included in next release07:39
cyphaseeach key is definitley detected by ubuntu..07:39
mrchicagoi love that program07:40
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tristanmikeWebLOCH, how do I find out?07:40
cyphasetristanmike, or what WebLOCH said :)07:40
tristanmike:)07:40
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WebLOCHtristanmike, i would advise you google your keyboard in relation to xconfig, because if you screw it up, you can't fix it haha07:40
WebLOCHwell you can from recovery mode07:41
tristanmikeok07:41
WebLOCHyour keyboard is probably set to pc10507:41
brennermochi\brb: seriously thogh, you need to be more specific07:41
mochi\brbi got 3 pc here..07:41
tristanmike10407:41
mochi\brb2 windows and 1 ubuntu..07:41
mochi\brbhow can i connect the three?07:41
WebLOCHyou can add configs for many different keybs/mice but you will need to find them or find a way of hooking the inputs  to add them manually07:41
mochi\brbmy ubuntu pc cant connect to the internet too07:41
cyphasemochi\brb, plugin the cables07:41
WebLOCHtristanmike, yeah just one of the defaults07:41
cyphasedo you have wifi?07:41
mochi\brbcyphase: cables are plugged07:42
mochi\brbnope07:42
cyphasehmm07:42
cyphasehow are you set up?07:42
tristanmikeWebLOCH, yeah, they have microsoft keyboards, just not mine, and it's pretty old07:42
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cyphase3 pcs..07:42
WebLOCHtristanmike, I did a lot of searching to try and get the rest of my keys working and my mouse07:42
cyphaseall connecting to one router?07:42
mochi\brbhub07:42
wasabiHmm. mysql on Hoary is segfaulting.07:42
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wasabiYucky.07:42
cyphasewell..07:42
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cyphaseand where's the hub go to07:42
cyphase?07:42
mochi\brbthe other pc is the server07:43
WebLOCH!xorg07:43
ubotuxorg is, like, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:43
WebLOCH!x-common07:43
ubotuWebLOCH: Wish i knew07:43
tristanmikeWebLOCH, what's a good search criteria07:43
cyphasewasabi, it's working fine for me on my server, and my desktop as a dev environment07:43
WebLOCHtristanmike, try something like  "[mskeyb]  xorg config"07:43
mrchicagook if i get some microcontrollers will ubuntu be able to handle it07:43
WebLOCHjust make sure you have keyboard name in quotes and then xorg in some way07:44
WebLOCHlike "Ms 104" instead of  Ms 10407:44
WebLOCH!google07:44
uboturumour has it, google is at http://www.google.com/linux07:44
cyphasemochi\brb, so 2 pcs on 1 side of the hub, server on the other?07:44
WebLOCH!g07:44
ubotuWebLOCH: No idea07:44
WebLOCH!g monkeys07:44
ubotuWish i knew, WebLOCH07:44
WebLOCH!google monkeys07:44
ubotuWebLOCH: What?07:44
DewDudethere were some nice updates to ubuntu today07:44
WebLOCHhaha07:44
mochi\brbyeps cyphase07:44
cyphasek07:44
WebLOCH!help07:45
brennerWebLOCH: /msg ubotu07:45
MadpilotWebLOCH: this bot doesn't do searches, AFAIK07:45
mrchicagoheh07:45
cyphasemochi\brb, can the computer see each other?07:45
ompis there a way i can get msttcorefonts for breezy?07:45
mochi\brbthe other 2 windows07:45
cyphasecomputers*07:45
WebLOCHMadpilot, yeah just messing around to find out, didnt mean to bother anyone tho haha07:45
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WebLOCH!command07:46
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, WebLOCH07:46
WebLOCH!commands07:46
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, commands is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/07:46
WebLOCH!loser07:46
ubotuWebLOCH: Not a clue07:46
WebLOCHThats right.07:46
cyphasemochi\brb, pm07:46
Madpilot!tell WebLOCH about msg the bot07:46
WebLOCHYeah i know, was less fun that way07:46
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wasabiSeems to be crashing with my libnss_db module.07:47
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AL-Ameerhi ppl07:48
AL-Ameersorry to interrupt07:48
WebLOCHmmm im off to bed07:48
WebLOCHI hope you all have a nice night!07:48
AL-Ameeri am NEW to ubuntu or linux07:48
AL-Ameeri installed a copy and so forth07:48
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AL-Ameerdoes anybody know how to setup a dial connection to the internet07:48
AL-Ameerusing UBUNTU07:48
AL-Ameer??07:48
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oruehi, when I boot up linux and access a networked computer, I can see the shared folder and also all drives (non-shared) with $, like C$, D$. How come?07:48
mrchicagolook up ppp07:48
WebLOCHAL-Ameer, have you  bothered googling yet?07:48
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brennerAL-Ameer: /msg ubotu dialup07:49
AL-Ameeryeah i have07:49
WebLOCHnight all07:49
AL-Ameeri always hit a wall07:49
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gpdmmm breezy07:50
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furicIf you where going to bet, how long do you think it will be till breezy is released?07:52
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gpdend of october07:52
JDahlI would bet on october 5th07:52
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dr_willisHmm.. Ok.. if one would want to make a video of a "X session" as a example/demo/walkthough - what program would one use?07:52
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furicCool07:53
gpds/hoary/breezy/ broke my X... so a while yet07:53
DualCorecan anybody help me?07:53
brennerAL-Ameer: did you msg ubotu?07:53
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DaveyOK, that just fucking blows07:53
DaveyAmaranth, I've been struggling with my keyboard for months, the media keys weren't doing the right stuff07:53
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JDahldualcore, just tell us your problem, then we'll see if someone can help or not07:53
AmaranthDavey: Language.07:53
Davey my mute key for example was setting the F Lock on and off07:54
userverHello..07:54
linneruserver: hello07:54
AmaranthDavey: That's....odd.07:54
DaveyAmaranth, turns out, I just had to hit the connect button on the base and the keyboard to re-detect it... and voila :/07:54
DualCorei cant be root... su doesnt work... i typed in the apssword correctly07:54
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DaveyDualCore, sudo su07:54
DaveyDualCore, but just use sudo07:54
AmaranthDavey: lmao07:54
bob2DualCore: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo07:54
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gpdstill keep getting 'failed to initialize HAL'... :(07:54
bob2DualCore: tho, the installer did mention this07:54
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DualCoreok07:54
DualCorethanks07:54
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cyphaseBreezy is going to be release October 1307:55
userverI want see TELEVISION in my Ubuntu.. can i do that?.. But i don't know the  ip or adress.. I know only the site in internet.. http://www.canal13.cl07:55
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DaveyAmaranth, that sucks so bad :/07:55
linnercyphase: I can not wait07:55
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cyphaseme neither :)07:55
Amaranthi can!07:55
Amaranthi have no choice ;)07:55
linnerI'm having to use Suse on my laptop right now because of serious hardware issues07:55
dhonnhow do i install opera 8.5 for ubuntu 5.10?07:55
cyphaselol07:55
Chameleon22can anyone recomend a nice webapp to organise/keep track of music CD's07:55
linnerAmaranth: of course you have a choice07:55
cyphasei have it on a test machine, but i want it to be stable so it can go on my main box07:55
Amaranthplus on october 13th users at large are going to pound on smeg and file bug reports07:55
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cyphaseyea07:56
Amaranthor at least pound on it07:56
cyphasesmeg still has problems where it won't save your changes07:56
Amaranthsome might file reports, the others will just complain on their livejournal ;)07:56
Madpilot!tell dhonn about opera07:56
cyphaseor their myspace07:56
cyphase;)07:56
Amaranthcyphase: no one has given me enough information to fix this07:56
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Amaranthcyphase: plus i just send commands to pyxdg, most of the 'smeg' bugs are pyxdg bugs07:57
dhonngee thanks for the automated response07:57
gpdubotu: solution to HAL problems?07:57
ubotugpd: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about07:57
dhonnit didnt work07:57
tristanmikecyphase, I kinda figure it out, I have a lot of keys working now, like "My Documents" opens my home folder07:57
Amaranthof course i helped write the commands... ;)07:57
omphmm07:58
cyphaselol07:58
omphow do i get beep-media-player to play music from a cd? :X07:58
cyphasetristanmike, cool07:58
tristanmikecyphase, I did it via the "Keyboard Shortcuts" option but there are a few that I can't set in there, how would I set them to other programs?07:58
dhonnDoes anyone know how to install Opera 8 point 5 on Ubuntu 5.10?07:58
cyphasetristanmike, no idea07:58
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cyphasei haven't tried07:59
tristanmikecyphase, ok, thanks07:59
brennerdhonn: download the deb file from the official site and install it?07:59
mrchicagogod i hope this works07:59
ce_17hiiiii07:59
cyphasemaybe using x keybindings, like WebLOCK was saying07:59
hovendalis it possible to generate a config file, from which you can compilate a new kernel, from your current configuration settings ?08:00
dr_willisdhonn,  i just downloaded the deb's and dpkg -i whtever.deb them08:00
dhonndoesnt work depends on libqt3c102-mt08:00
hovendalincluding compilating the modules into the kernel08:00
dr_willisdhonn,  i think i did have to get the static linked version08:00
dhonni have libqt3-mt installed08:00
dr_willisit does work. :P just need static.. I rmeber that now.08:01
dhonni dpkg -i it it needs libqt3c102-mt08:01
dr_willisit dident put an icon in the menus either08:01
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dhonnopera doesnt distribute it08:01
dr_willis"staticially compiled" version is what ya need to get. let  me see if i can find the file name08:01
dr_willis opera-static_8.02-20050727.1-qt_en_i386.de08:02
dr_willis.deb :P08:02
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buckywould someone tell kataklysm to stop trolling in #debian08:02
dhonnthanks08:02
mrchicagoit didnt work08:02
dhonnis that the ubuntu package or debian?08:02
mrchicagowont compile08:03
dr_willisi forget. :P i dont think its the ubuntu one.. I installed one - got that error.. went back and got the static one from somewhere ontheir site08:03
owyheehey guys08:03
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dr_willisI perfer Firefox to Opera.08:03
dr_willis:P08:03
SQFreakSo, my computer is only recognizing 1GB of my 1.5GB of RAM according to /proc/meminfo. Any suggestions? I'm using kernel 2.6.13-rc3 compiled for a Pentium M (which is what I have).08:03
owyheewhat's the meaning of Preview Release?08:03
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naliothowyhee: means it's not ready for stable use08:04
owyheeroger. a beta08:04
dr_willis"Not ready for Prime Time"08:04
naliothowyhee: means you should use it on a secondary box and file bugs08:04
mrchicagoman08:04
linnerowyhee: but it also means that you can preview the features if you can get it to work... keyword IF08:04
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mrchicagotranscode didnt install08:04
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dhonnfirefox is slow08:04
naliothgpd: it grips well?08:04
naliothbye y'all08:05
nalioththe storm decided lousiana was more tempting08:05
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dhonnxul is slow for some reason on linux08:05
dhonnonly under linux too08:05
hovendalcan somebody help with some kernel compilation ?08:05
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brennerlinner: hello?  how's your freezing problem from a few days ago?08:07
linnerbrenner: hey there :)08:07
linnerbrenner: well.... it's been resolved... I can't install it to save my life!08:07
scumbohovendal, depends on what help you need.08:07
linnerso I'm using Suse 10 right now08:07
dell500how do i burn a dvd from IFO, VSI, and XVO files?08:08
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dr_willisdell500,  thers several dvd burner front end/tools in the repositories.08:08
brennerlinner: you gave up?!  i thought nalioth would've fixced it right up...08:08
dr_willisnot that ive used any. :P i did see them listed however08:08
dhonnok im tired of upera, fast at the expense of latency, just isnt snappy08:08
linnerbrenner: nalioth did the best he could; unfortunately, my hardware is far too new08:08
linner:(08:08
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brennerlinner: so switching to VESA didn't fix it?08:09
pepsihow can i find out which version of the video4linux drivers are used in the latest kernel? cause the v4l people have been breaking and fixing it lately.. the version in 2.16.12-8 is more broken than whats in cvs08:09
Jeniessahi08:09
Jeniessacan i ask08:09
daejavuwhere can i find all the packages that i downloaded from Synaptic ?08:09
Jeniessaabout dual os08:09
dell500doesn't k3b work?08:09
brennerJeniessa: sure. ask away08:10
Jeniessai want to install win9808:10
Jeniessaand ubuntu08:10
Jeniessawhat should be first?08:10
Jeniessato install?08:10
hovendalscumbo: im just wondering if it possible to make a config file without having to use the menuconfig.. i mean, i just would like to compile my current settings, modules etc in to the kernel...08:10
brennerJeniessa: windows08:10
linnerbrenner: I couldn't even get that far08:10
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Jeniessai got error while install it08:10
dell500ah ha dvd shrink08:10
brennerJeniessa: installing windows later will wipe out grub08:10
linnerso... I downloaded from opensuse.org the beta version of SuSE 10 and it's running fine08:10
pepsihi ksmurf08:11
daejavuJeniessa: what kinda error ?08:11
Jeniessaso 1st windows?08:11
Jeniessaerror in base system08:11
pepsiJeniessa, windows will clobber the MBR08:11
brennerJeniessa: easiest, yes.08:11
ksmurfpepsi that worked more.....08:11
ompwhere does ubuntu mount audio cd's? :)08:11
pepsiksmurf, more? not fully? :(08:11
brennerlinner: that's no good...ad yet you're still in here. :)08:11
linnerbrenner: but I did take your advise08:11
brenners/ad/and08:11
mikhail^omp: i don't think it does...08:11
Jeniessabtw08:11
linnerI installed windows first and then on a second partition installed SuSE08:11
daejavuJeniessa:  win98 will overrite the MBR ... it dosent have anything like a dual boot option .. u need to install it first and then Ubuntu08:11
linnerworks great!08:11
scumbohovendal, I don't know any way to do that.  There might be a tool, but I don't know of one.08:12
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linnerjust wish I knew how to use the YaST08:12
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Jeniessaany1 using cedega08:12
hovendalscumbo: ok - thanks for asking anyway08:12
ompmikhail^: it automounts them for me (i use breezy)08:12
brennerlinner: heh...i don't recall telling you how to dualboot. :)08:12
linnerbrenner: I know... I love this room! The people are fantastic08:12
Jeniessai want to compile it08:12
Jeniessathen use08:12
ksmurfbut cat /proc/acpi/battery/Bat1/status says present yes but then Unable to read battery status08:12
linnerbrenner: You did... I asked you if I should install it first or second08:12
mikhail^omp: are you sure it's an audio cd?08:12
linneryou told me first08:12
pepsiksmurf, but does the applet work?08:12
mikhail^omp: at any rate, 'mount' should be able to tell you where it's mounted.08:13
brennerlinner: lol...i guess my memory is worst than i though08:13
Jeniessai want to compile cedega and use it08:13
ksmurfyes for ac/bat.... but no battery level.  tahnks.08:13
daejavuJeniessa, u play games ?08:13
Jeniessaany1 can help me?08:13
ksmurfthanks08:13
Jeniessai want08:13
AL-Ameercan ubuntu read mp3s08:13
Jeniessaya ya08:13
Dalik01I was messing round with my packages, trying to upgrade firefox to 1.0.7 and after I finally did the upgrade firefox wont finish loading if I try it with a normal user, but if I run it with root It loads fine.  Any ideas?08:13
pepsiksmurf, :(08:13
pepsiAL-Ameer, install gstreamer-mad08:13
daejavuJeniessa, havent had luck with it ... i tried wine and was a bit lucky but not really ...08:14
AL-Ameerand wot if the mp3s are on a ntfs file system08:14
AL-Ameer?08:14
daejavuJeniessa,  in the end i thought of buying Cedega which i couldnt do :S08:14
Jeniessathats why i wanna dual os08:14
Jeniessa:P08:14
Dalik01ok got it working08:14
pepsiAL-Ameer, as long as you have the file system mounted, it shouldnt be a problem08:14
dr_willisBeen testing out latest Cedega today08:14
ompdoes anyone know how to play audio cd's in beep-media-player? i configured the plugin, but i can't see an option to play it anywhere08:14
brennerlinner: what lappy do you have again?08:14
dr_willisits working MUCH better now.08:14
linnerv2000z08:14
linnercompaq08:14
AL-Ameerthe command for mounting in ubuntu is ?08:15
pepsimount08:15
dr_willisI got a Compaw V2311 laptop - with Turion64 CPU08:15
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daejavuJeniessa, use Synaptic to install Wine  ... configure it and give it a shot .. c what happens08:15
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dr_willis:P was a big $50008:15
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brennerlinner: maybe you'll have better luck with breezy when it comes out08:15
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linnerdr_willis: yeah we're close I have the same chipset08:16
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linnerbrenner: that's what I'm hoping for08:16
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linnerbrenner: plus I still have ubuntu on my desktop08:16
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linnerabsolutely adore it08:16
dr_willislinner,  Breezy WORKS very well . I had to do a little tweaking.  the older versions dident work worht a Poooo.08:16
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dr_willislinner,  i even got the x200 ati video working decently08:16
linnerI can't get anything up08:16
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brenneromp: iirc, click on eject, then add the cd drive08:16
dr_willislinner,  :P need some Viagra?08:16
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Dalik01I have a problem when it comes to my dvdrom drive and gnome.  I have to fight with it to stay shut.  Anyone know why this is?08:17
linnerdr_willis: um... nope! :)08:17
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brennerlmao08:17
j-linuxIs there a way to view my Windows partition from my Ubuntu partition?  Every time I try w/ Konqueror it says: "mount: can't find /dev/hda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab08:17
dr_willisa GIRL? Girls dont use computers!08:17
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brennerj-linux: /msg ubotu ntfs08:17
j-linuxubotu?08:17
brennerthe channel bot08:17
linnerdr_willis: what build do you have?08:18
Dalik01I tried watching a movie the other night and I opened the drive put the disk in and shut it, then it opened.. over and over and over till it just stopped and it mounted the media.08:18
linnerdr_willis: very funny............................NOT08:18
tritiumlinner, most of us that run breezy update daily08:18
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dr_willislinner,  whatever i downloaded a week ago. :P  and updates every hr it seems08:18
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j-linuxbrenner: sorry, I didn't understand that08:18
daejavuDoes anyone has any info on VIDALinux ?08:18
tritiumdaejavu, this is #ubuntu08:18
linnertritium: I can't even get the damned thing to get past the "can't load the x server"08:18
brennerj-linux: nvm, here:08:18
hovendalis it possible to make a config file without using the menuconfig, just to compilate a new kernel with my current settings, modules etc... ??08:18
linnerso... I wouldn't know that08:18
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brenner!tell j-linux about ntfs08:18
tritiumlinner, did you look at your /var/log/Xorg.0.log?08:19
daejavutritium, :D ....08:19
tritium:)08:19
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j-linuxbrenner: thanks, I'll check that out.08:19
dell500i've got DMA enabled for my plextor dvd burner, but it's not being deteced08:19
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linnertritium: if I did.... I wouldn't have clue one what to look for08:19
daejavutritium, can u tell me where can i find all the packages that were downloaded by synaptic ?08:19
dr_willisHmm.. if its Not detected... then HOW can you enable dma on it?08:19
tritiumlinner, start by looking for (EE) and (WW)08:19
linnertritium: I think I did... went through it with Nalioth...08:19
linnertritium: what does that mean?08:20
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Jeniessaany1 compile cedega?08:20
Jeniessai want to use it08:20
JeniessaxD08:20
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Jeniessalucky i dont have any $08:20
dr_willisJeniessa,  i feel its worht supporting :P08:20
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dr_willisand a lot easier08:20
tritiumdaejavu, not all of them are kept (the cache is cleaned every so often), but look in /var/cache/apt/archives08:20
Jeniessasupporting?08:20
neotrophy_Hmmm... no warnings in topic.  Breezy feeling good today?08:20
ksmurfnow my ac indicator works.... my throtling needs work.  I have a 1.4 celeron-d and it says it is no Known to support but in proc/acpi/cpu it says it has 8 throttling states.  any way to fix it?08:20
mrchicagocool dvdstyler is now installed08:20
tritiumlinner, (EE) are errors, and the most critical08:20
tritium(WW) are warnings, and less critical08:20
mrchicagogoing to try with transcode now08:20
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mrchicagosee if i cant find a deb package for it08:21
linnertritium: maybe I'll try tonight's download and give it yet ONE more try08:21
daejavutritium, is it possible that i transfer them all to another paritition so that they can be reinstalled somehow if i have to do a reinstallation of the OS ?08:21
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tritiumneotrophy_, more or less, save x-common trying to overwrite some fonts in another package08:21
linnerbecause at this point, the SuSE community does not help one bit08:21
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tritiumdaejavu, yes, to save download time?08:21
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tritiumlinner, what video chipset do you have?08:22
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linnertritium: ati 200m08:22
Jeniessai wanna compile cedga08:22
Jeniessahelp me any108:22
tritiumlinner, is that supported by fglrx?08:22
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daejavutritium, exactly .. i did a couple of reinstallations in the past and everytime i had to do the updates and downloads again .. its a pain in the arse if u have a 64k connection :S08:22
linnertritium: you're speaking greek to me... I have no idea what fglrx is08:22
neotrophy_Cool.  BTW does anyone here know if you can get composite running on nvidia under breezy?  I've been having troubles with what seems to be a fairly common problem (KDE splash freezing)08:22
tritiumlinner, it's ATI's proprietary driver08:23
linnertritium: I've only been using ubuntu on my desktop for a couple of weeks....08:23
linnertritium: so how do I get it?08:23
linnerand when I get it...what do I do with it?08:23
tritiumdaejavu, yep08:23
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daejavutritium, so any idea how can i do it ?08:23
tritiumlinner, from the repositories08:23
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linneroh... well... I have to have it booted to be able to do that08:24
tritiumdaejavu, depends on what you have08:24
linnerand I can't get it booted08:24
linnerit craps out08:24
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tritiumlinner, can you paste your /var/log/Xorg.0.log in #flood at all?08:24
daejavutritium, what do u mean ? like what packages do i have?08:24
neotrophy_daejavu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI08:24
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linnertritium: no..... again, I don't have ubuntu on there anymore... I'm using SuSE right now08:24
tritiumdaejavu, no, like where do you intend to save the packages?08:25
tritiumlinner, okay, can you paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf on pastebin please?08:25
linnertritium: I'll go download it again right now and see what it does08:25
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linnertritium: if you'll tell me how08:25
daejavutritium, i got a good partition (fat32) mounted ... i put my backup on it08:25
j-linuxbrenner: thanks, that worked perfectly.  I can see my NTFS partition now...08:25
j-linuxgreat tool08:25
tritiumhold on, linner, let's verify which driver it's using now08:25
linnertritium: ok...08:25
dell500where is modules.conf ??08:25
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brennerj-linux: np08:26
IamgoodstuffHello everyone08:26
IamgoodstuffI have a problem I was hoping someone could help me with08:26
j-linuxdell500: just type whereis modules.conf08:26
daejavuneotrophy_,  dude ... whats that for ? :)08:26
ksmurfI need to cool this processor down. 63C08:26
brennerksmurf: is it a laptop?08:27
neotrophy_dell500: modules.conf is broken up into smaller file on ubuntu they're in /etc/modprobe.d08:27
neotrophy_daejavu: sorry, wrong person08:27
brennera little OT, but i was wondering what normal temps are supposed to be...08:27
IamgoodstuffI am trying to use an ubuntu LiveCD (version 5.04 for AMD64) and I can boot from my cdrom and I press enter to boot it up and everything seems to be doing fine as it is recognizing everything on my system but then it stops and never goes to the Desktop Environment08:27
tritiumdell500, and you don't really want to mess with it08:27
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neotrophy_linner: check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI08:27
dell500well for some reason DMA isn't working08:28
dell500it's enabled, but says it's disabled08:28
tritiumlinner, let's see your current xorg.conf first08:28
linnertritium: ok... I see what you're asking me to give you...08:28
tritiumgood08:28
linnerI'm going into flood now08:28
daejavutritium, are u facing problems with ur ATI Graphic card Driver ?08:28
brennerdell500: at bootup you mean?08:28
tritiumdaejavu, I don't have one08:28
neotrophy_dell500 what you're after is hdparm then, I reckon08:28
linnertritium: are you in that channel?08:28
linnerI don't see you08:28
tritiumjoin #flood08:29
tritiumheh08:29
ksmurfbrenner yes08:29
brennerIamgoodstuff: where abouts does it stop?08:29
Iamgoodstuffwell08:29
Iamgoodstuffwhen it is loading08:29
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Iamgoodstuffand recognizing everything on my system I guess08:29
dell500neotrophy_, i already did that08:29
neotrophy_ah.. I see08:30
Iamgoodstuffkind of like when you start a windows machine08:30
Iamgoodstuffand the screen is black08:30
Iamgoodstufflike DOS08:30
Iamgoodstuffand it just stops08:30
Iamgoodstuffand I haeva  cursor08:30
ompdoes anyone here use beep-media-player to listen to CDs?08:30
Iamgoodstuffand I can type things but they don't do anything08:30
brennerIamgoodstuff: so after all the scrolling text?08:30
IamgoodstuffI can't input any commands08:30
Iamgoodstuffyes brenner08:30
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Iamgoodstuffit never goes to the DE08:30
ksmurfhave do you throttle a processor when acpi sees in but linux does not?08:30
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ksmurfthe kernel that is?08:31
brennerhmmm....does the liveCD use vesa as default driver?08:31
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linnerhello?08:31
linnerok...08:31
Iamgoodstuffdeafult driver for what?08:31
linnerI don't know what happened08:31
ksmurf!acpi08:31
ubotuksmurf: Bugger all, i dunno08:31
linnertritium: I'm going back to flood now08:31
tritiumlinner, excess flood.  use pastebin please08:31
linnertritium: oh...08:31
linneris there a link tritium you can give me08:31
brennerIamgoodstuff: video card...08:31
tritium!pastebin08:31
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl08:31
IamgoodstuffI'm not sure08:32
linnertritium: thanks08:32
hovendalcome u wise ubuntu guyz/girlx08:32
tritiumpaste it and then give me the URL, linner08:32
linnertritium: I just pasted it08:32
linnerone sec08:32
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esachi i am trying to compile my kernel. it worked, i changed a few options and now it doesnt. http://pastebin.com/372617 has the errors. any help appreciated.08:32
neotrophy_Anyone know if you can get the Composite extension running on nvidia cards under breezy?08:32
linnertritium: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/248108:32
brennerIamgoodstuff: try searching the forum for "freeze" and "livecd"08:32
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IamgoodstuffI'll try that08:33
hovendalcome u wise ubuntu guyz/girlz... is it possible to make a new config, like automatically with my current modules, settings and etc... ??08:33
brennerubuntuforums.org08:33
dell500wow, gotta make sure the code is enabled before anything can happen08:33
dell500awesome08:33
neotrophy_Iamgoodstuff: does ctrl + alt + F1 take you to a login prompt?08:33
linnertritium: does that mean anything to you?08:34
IamgoodstuffHavn't tried that yet08:34
tritiumokay, linner it's using the radeon driver08:34
brenneromp: you try the method i suggested?08:34
linnertrit08:34
linneroops08:34
linnertritium: how can you tell?08:34
cyphasedon't you hate it when people say "There aren't enough programs for Linux. Linux should be able to run Windows programs."08:34
tritiumlinner, look under Section "Device"08:34
ompbrenner: i think i'm configuring the plugin wrong :(08:34
linnerok08:34
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sndis it possible to tell the install cd to do a minimal desktop install?08:35
neotrophy_Iamgoodstuff:  I've got a theory as to what's happening, but I don't have a clue how to fix or even explain it... So I guess it doesn't matter :)08:35
linnertritium: so now that you know what it's using... how do I avoid "x server" issues08:35
linnerwhen I go to reinstall08:35
tritiumsnd, no, but you can do a server install, which is really minimal08:35
Iamgoodstuffwell shoopt neotrophy_08:35
sndalso why doesnt ubuntu have xfce/fluxbox or any light wm's to choose from08:35
tritiumsnd, it does08:35
ompbrenner: under device i have /dev/hda  and under directory i have /media/cdrom0   (is that wrong?)08:36
sndoh, i did apt-cache search xfce ... nothing comes up08:36
Tirnostupid newbie question: I have firefox problems. Last time I had 'em, I was told "use backport", now, I'm told the opposite. That's all fine, but I have little clue how to do it. will commenting backports out of my sources.list and doing an upgrade suffice?08:36
tritiumlinner, can't guarantee that you won't have issues if you've had them before, but we can make sure you're using radeon in the future08:36
linnertritium: how much longer are you going to be on?08:36
tritium!info xfce08:36
ubotuxfce: (The Cholesterol Free Desktop Environment), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 3.8.18-2ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 907 kB, Installed size: 2548 kB08:36
brennertritium: linner still had the issue using vesa iirc...why would switching to radeon be any different?08:36
NiLzhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/248208:36
tritium!info fluxbox08:36
ubotufluxbox: (Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.9.11-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 626 kB, Installed size: 1988 kB08:36
NiLzany way to fix this?08:36
tritiumboth in universe, snd08:36
brenneromp: i think /dev/hda is your HDD .../dev/hdc is usually the CD drive08:36
linnertritium: I'm burning a new install right now...08:36
tritiumlinner, for half an hour or so08:36
NiLz!info icewm08:37
ubotuicewm: (wonderful Win95-OS/2-Motif-like window manager), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2.18-1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 451 kB, Installed size: 1224 kB08:37
linnertritium: crap08:37
neotrophy_YM guess is that it's failing to start X and then leaving you at the virtual console that it does all the bootup reporting on, which it doesn't seem to start  getty on.  So if you flicked to another console, you might get a login prompt. But I wouldn't know why, or how to fix it08:37
sndim sorry im new to ubuntu/debian style apt-get system... i thought it was possible to grab those things off the a mirror instead of cd?08:37
ompbrenner: my hdd is /dev/sda08:37
linnerbrenner: are you going to be on for a while?08:37
brenneromp: ah08:37
tritiumsnd, yes, that's how it's typically done08:37
ompbrenner: /dev/hda        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       008:37
tritiumlinner, I'll wait up08:37
Madpilot!tell snd about repos08:37
sndthen strange it didnt show up when i searched for it :/08:37
linnertritium: you'd do that?  wow...08:37
brennerlinner: dunno....tritium seems to know his shit more though. :)08:37
NiLzdoes any1 have a problem upgrading firefox?08:38
tritiumbrenner, not sure what we'll find08:38
linnertritium: thank you so so much08:38
tritiumsure, linner08:38
linnerbrenner: ok.... got it :)08:38
tritiumbrenner, nah08:38
brennersnd:  it is....if it's asking for your CD, remove it from your sources08:38
ompbrenner: when i click "Check drive..." it shows the amount of tracks and everything, but when i try to open it /media/cdrom0 is empty08:39
killapophi all. how do I make a program run at startup08:39
brenneromp: yeah, dunno really...tried #xmms?08:39
neotrophy_Ah crap... I've lost the drivers for my second soundcard again :(08:39
tritiumkillapop, at boot, or gnome startup?08:39
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tritiumlost them?  how do you do that?08:40
killapoptritium: gnome startup08:40
tritiumkillapop, add them to the session and save it08:40
killapoptritium: i tried that... it does nothing08:40
ompkillapop: System > Preferences > Sessions  (in gnome menu)08:40
tritiumkillapop, ^^^08:41
neotrophy_tritium: updated the kernel acidentally while playing with nvidia drivers.  So I need to rebuild alsa08:41
killapopomp, tritium: :) thanks.08:41
tritiumneotrophy_, why, do you need newer alsa modules than the kernel provides?08:41
linnerbrenner: if nothing else at least now I have an OS that can get me by :)08:41
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neotrophy_I need different ones.  The stock ubuntu kernel doesn't build support for my second card08:42
tritiumhoary?08:42
neotrophy_both hoary and breezy08:42
Jeniessawhat should 1st to install?08:42
Jeniessafor dual boot08:42
neotrophy_But I'm runnign breezy08:42
Jeniessaubuntu or windows?08:42
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AmaranthCan someone in the US do me a huge favor? I need a copy of the vmware trial and breezy colony 5 CDs sent to me snail mail so I can work on smeg.08:43
killapopomp, tritium: if i need to start it up at boot - then what does one do?08:43
brennerJeniessa: we already answered this didn't we? :-/08:43
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tritiumneotrophy_, breezy too?  wow...08:43
AmaranthConsider it an easy way to donate to a worthy cause. ;)08:43
Jeniessayay08:43
tritiumkillapop, use update-rc.d to install an initscript for it08:43
Jeniessaubuntu 1st?08:43
esacis there a guide to using a custom kernel in ubuntu ? how would i update my restricted-modules. would i have to download everything and compile it ?08:43
daejavuIs there any driver for  "S3 Unichrome"  chip that can enable me for some hardware acceleration ?08:44
killapoptritium: thanks - I'll go fiddle with that!08:44
tristanmikethanx all for everything, nite08:44
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tritiumesac, the wiki should cover how to use make-kpkg08:44
kataklysmwhat is the colony 5 cd?08:45
vbgunzI have a question regarding Ubuntu backports... Does Breezy come with backports already enabled?08:45
neotrophy_tritium: It's a very new addition to the alsa trunk, and it needs firmware (although that's also OSS, available from the alsa project).  BTW, it's an echoaudio card, and support would be really nice, in case any maintainers are watching08:45
dell500once wine is installed, do i need to configure it so it can find my dvd burner??08:45
tritiumneotrophy_, I see08:45
Amaranthdell500: Why does wine need to find your burner?08:45
dell500for DVD Decrypter08:46
Amarantherr08:46
Amaranthi'm sure there are linux tools for that08:46
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vbgunzthere is no dvd decrypter for Linux :(08:46
Amaranththat's odd08:46
dell500:(08:46
Amaranththe author of the original decss is a linux user08:46
dell500it can't find my burner for some reason08:47
vbgunzdoes Breezy come with backports already enabled?08:47
Amaranththere are probably tools, just not GUI ones08:47
tritiumvbgunz, no08:47
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Amaranthvbgunz: no, but as of colony 5 they are in the sources.list08:47
Amaranthjust commented out08:47
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daejavuIs there any driver for  "S3 Unichrome"  chip that can enable me for some hardware acceleration ?08:47
vbgunzI am new to Linux so coming from Windows DVD Decrypter was not only the tool of choice but it was the best tool for the choice and was free and tiny... Excellent 5 start program... too bad even on Windows that program has ceased to exist08:48
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vbgunzoh snap... man backports are in the list... I think they've been enabled and I think I've been downloading them :(08:48
vbgunzevery item in synaptics list has a check mark next to it...08:48
linnerbrenner, how do you remove software?08:49
vbgunzman...08:49
linnerbrenner, I mean now that i know how to add. :)08:49
kataklysmis the colony 5 cd the final or is it just another preview? or what?08:49
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brennerlinner: synaptic or apt-get ... same way08:49
tritiumkataklysm, not the final08:49
linneroh really?08:49
tritiumor aptitude ;)08:49
linnerbrenner, i'll have to go see08:49
tritiumor dpkg08:50
pefhello08:50
brennerlinner: note that iirc, dependencies aren't removed.08:50
linnerbrenner, what's iirc?08:50
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vbgunzI am on Breezy and haven't really seen any problems... My display and wireless card got picked up which was 2 steps better than Hoary...08:50
brennertritium: told you you knew your stuff. :)08:50
tritiumnah ;)08:50
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brennerlinner: netspeak ... "if i recall correctly"08:50
neotrophy_Hmmm... How would I go about getting support for my soundcard incorporated into ubuntu?08:50
tritiumneotrophy_, crimsun is our alsa guru08:51
linnerbrenner, ahh... it's been so long since I've used IRC (like 6 years) that I've forgotten my geek speak08:51
brennerheh08:51
linnerbrenner, OHHHHHHHHH... I see...08:51
linnercool08:51
kataklysmtritium: so the repos have done put everything that is on that cd up havent they?? i've got 5.10 prv, and i have 0 updates available, so i guess im pretty well current huh?08:51
linnerI love ubunut.08:51
linneroops08:51
linnerubuntu08:51
Jeniessabrenner08:51
brennerlol08:51
Jeniessacan i pm u08:51
tritiumkataklysm, if you've updated recently, yes08:51
kataklysmtritium: last time i updated i had a weird error08:52
neotrophy_Cool... I know how to get it working.  I'm just wondering how I could make it easier for me (and anyone else with echoaudio cards) when I update the kernel in future.08:52
tritiumx-common, kataklysm ?08:52
vbgunzMan... I had to mess around and customize Gnome today... I took a trip to gnome-look.org and ended up customizing everything except the mouse icons... I took a step back from my display and just couldn't believe Linux would ever look so good...08:52
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kataklysmyep08:52
brennerJeniessa: what for?08:52
kataklysmso i forced it08:52
kataklysmand it worked08:52
Jeniessajust for askin08:52
Jeniessacan?08:52
kataklysmdidnt really care if it broke or not08:52
kataklysmheh08:52
tritiumkataklysm, okay, you'll be fine08:52
Jeniessai cant follow this irc msg08:52
Jeniessatoo fast08:52
Jeniessa:P08:52
brennerJeniessa: sure08:52
brennervbgunz: as opposed to windows? lol08:53
kataklysmdid they put all the fonts in x-common or something?08:53
tritiumJeniessa, that's where using peoples' nicks can help08:53
tritiumkataklysm, I didn't look at the changes08:53
Jeniessayay08:53
kataklysmhow'd u know i had x-common prob?08:53
Jeniessai cant pm08:53
kataklysmdid a lot of people get the same prob?08:53
daejavutritium, Is there any driver for  "S3 Unichrome"  chip that can enable me for some hardware acceleration ?08:53
tritiumyes, kataklysm08:53
Jeniessaso if i 1st install ubuntu it will work right?08:53
vbgunzas opposed to Linux how I remember it... Windows has a nice theme I believe but Gnome atleast the way I customized it... man it looks great08:53
Jeniessathen win98?08:53
tritiumdaejavu, i'm not familiar with that chipset08:53
linnerbrenner, if synaptic says that i have an app installed but i don't see it in my applications list... where else might I look?08:53
Jeniessait will work right?08:53
daejavutritium, know anyone who can help in it ?08:54
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MadpilotJeniessa: no, win98 first. Linux has a more intelligent install program than Windows...08:54
tritiumJeniessa, you'd be better off doing it in reverse order08:54
vbgunzfriggin Gnome is sexy :P08:54
tritiumdaejavu, who makes that chipset?08:54
Jeniessaok08:54
tritiumoh, duh08:54
vbgunzWindows 98 is ROCK SOLID...08:54
brennerlinner: a lot of apps won't add themselves to the menu....usualy run it through a reminal, or create a shortcut using smeg08:54
vbgunzsorry, I meant bullet proof08:54
brenners/reminal/terminal08:55
brennerbloody laptop k/b08:55
linnerbrenner, ewe... ok... what is reminal?08:55
vbgunz:)08:55
brennersee above :)08:55
daejavutritium, VIA .... its a builtin graphic chipset with S3 Unichrome as the chips manufactre08:55
Madpilotlinner: Applications menu - System Tools - Terminal08:55
brennervbgunz: linux is a lot easier to customize imo08:55
kataklysmif i have already compiled a kernel for the 386 kernel, but i want to use the 686 kernel, can i just cd to the directory where i compiled once im in the 686, and make install, without having to make all over?  the reason i asked is because earlier in the 686 kernel i had a problem with it not being able to make, because it couldnt locate the "build" directory08:55
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Madpilotlinner: NOT Root Terminal, which is a different thing...08:56
linnermaddler, ok08:56
linneroops08:56
linnerMadpilot, ok... thanks08:56
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vbgunzyeah, I really appreciate setting Gnome to my taste like that... Windows will bite that soon and call it innovation ;)08:56
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linnerwhat is the command Madpilot to get the applications to show in the menu?08:56
sonojackerMaybe this have been addressed mucg, b4 today but: anyone having problems with the x server (x-common) updates today?08:56
sonojackerat breezy08:57
kataklysmsonojacker: yes08:57
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kataklysmu want the solution to it?08:57
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Madpilotlinner: you can make a launcher (a shortcut, in Windows terms) for apps that dont' have menu entries08:57
brennerlinner: you need to use smeg for that:08:57
brenner!smeg08:57
uboturumour has it, smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.08:57
tritiumdaejavu, there are some threads on ubuntuforums.org about that chipset08:57
kataklysmsudo  dpkg --install --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_*.deb08:57
sonojackerpls kataklysm, you ll be so kind; I was forcing lots of packages but dont know if that's the right path08:57
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kataklysmthat fixes the problem08:57
vbgunzhey I know I can mount my Windows partitions and I even got the mounting on startup... My question is they're NTFS read only... without too much hassle is it possible to write to them too?08:57
linnerMadpilot, brenner oh gosh... ok... is smeg a command in terminal?08:57
brennerbreezy's coming with smeg by default, yes?08:57
daejavutritium, cool ... lemme check emm ..08:58
Amaranthbrenner: yep08:58
psusiis there a way to get fdisk to create a partition that does not start on an even cylinder boundery?08:58
Madpilotlinner: no. see the ubotu post just below brenner's above08:58
tritiumdaejavu, this seems to indicate that at least the VESA driver will work: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1402508:58
linnerMadpilot, oh okay08:58
linnergood08:58
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sonojackerI did that already kataklysm, but that states it is the right pad.  Thank you very much pal.08:58
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tritiumvbgunz, it's very risky08:59
kataklysmno prob sonojacker08:59
linnerMadpilot, it says I have smeg in synaptic08:59
masterbeaterholo08:59
daejavutritium,  yeah the vesa driver works fine .. iam using that one ... but i need atleast some acceleration so that i can try some games :D08:59
linnerMadpilot, so where do I find it??? I dont' see it in my menu dorp down08:59
psusithere HAS to be a way to get fdisk to create a partition that does not start on a cylinder boundery08:59
Madpilotlinner: are you running Breezy?08:59
linnerno08:59
linner5.0408:59
linnerhope to be on my laptop soon08:59
tritiumdaejavu, it's not good when daniels posts that unichrome support will never be "good"09:00
vbgunztritium: I bet09:00
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Madpilotlinner: I'm running 5.04 too, and smeg isn't in my Synaptic at all...09:00
linnerhmmm...09:00
kataklysmBreezy is an improvement over 5.0409:00
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kataklysmbig improvement at tat09:00
kataklysmthat*09:00
brennerkataklysm: i'd hope it'd be :)09:00
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dell500Breezy is out?09:00
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kataklysmdell500: its preview09:00
dell500so not full?09:00
tritiumdell500, not yet09:00
dell500k09:00
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Madpilot!tell linner about smeg09:01
Amaranthif the bot suggests backports it's wrong09:01
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daejavutritium, lolz ..  lookz like i have to buy an AGP card anyway :D09:01
kataklysmdell500: its close enough, i'd go ahead and get it and just not update until the final is out and dist-upgrade when it comes out.. that is if everything works after you install09:01
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Jeniessai got error09:01
dell500so does anyone know how to get int othe config for the wine?09:01
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Jeniessaits not installing the base09:01
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vbgunzdoes Gnome support an XP Start Menu type menu? One click and you see everything?... Just curious...09:01
Amaranththe correct way to get it on hoary is to run this command from a terminal: wget http://dev.realistanew.com/smeg/installsmeg && sudo python installsmeg09:01
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tritiumdell500, if you use wine and winetools from winehq.com, you might have more luck.  winetools is nice for setting up wine09:02
linnerMadpilot, thanks.. I got that message from brenner09:02
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Madpilotvbgunz: why would it do a daft thing like that?09:02
Amaranthvbgunz: the three menus at the top are more or less the same thing09:02
linnerMadpilot, but I see it in my synaptic09:02
linnerthis is what it tells me simple menu editing09:02
linnerA simple menu editor that can add and edit new entries and09:02
linnermenus. It implements the freedesktop.org menu spec and works with GNOME, KDE,09:02
linnerand XFCE.09:02
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Madpilotlinner: so what happens when you type 'smeg' in a terminal?09:02
Amaranthlinner: they you have it installed, it should be in Applications->System Tools09:02
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tritiumlinner, are you still burning that install cd?09:03
psusihow can I convince fdisk to create a partition that starts at sector 63?09:03
liablework is so overated..09:03
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vbgunzI know... im use to the menus by now... Just thought there would be something a bit more advanced... something that showed me more...09:03
linnerMadpilot, hold on a sec09:03
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linnertritium, I just literally put it in my laptop09:03
tritiumcool09:03
linnerlinner, it's booting hold on09:03
linneri'm going through the intial motions now trit09:04
tritiumSometimes I have to tell myself to be patient too ;)09:04
linnertritium, sorry09:04
linnertritium, well considering you're doing me a HUGE favor... I don't blame you wanting to go to bed!09:04
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linnertritium, do you want me to PM you with this?09:04
tritiumI'm just teasing you for using your own nick09:04
tritiumsure, linner09:04
Madeyeguys, where I can get w32codecs? it has no candidate ?09:04
linnerteasing me?09:05
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brennerlol09:05
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Madpilotvbgunz: I actually like the way Gnome splits the menus out; I never used the Start menu in Windows because navigating it was awkward - I used hordes of desktop icons instead...09:05
brenner<linner> linner it's booting hold on09:05
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tritium:)09:05
kataklysmi just installed like 300ish updates in Breezy, now im kinda skeptical on whether i want to reboot or not.. kinda got my fingers crossed..09:05
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shaoqihi. i tried to install adobe acrobat7.0, but during the setup, it says "  Cannot make directory "/usr/lib/Adobe/Acrobat7.0.1"  "09:05
shaoqihow can i solve this?09:05
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kataklysmshaoqi: sudo09:06
linnerbrenner, you know what i mean man :)09:06
vbgunzI have an important question regarding Breezy... Does it come by default with a CD/DVD burner *or* do I need to install one? I am looking but not sure maybe missing it. If I need to install one, which is best or at least very straight forward?09:06
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brenner!tell Madeye about w32codecs09:06
shaoqikataklysm, i don't have any chance to type09:06
shaoqiwhen do i type it?09:06
kataklysmis it a package? or a binary?09:06
vbgunzI like the three menu buttons too on Gnome... I just got so used to XPs start menu... I really appreciated one click everything like that... just a preference09:07
shaoqibinary i think.09:07
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kataklysmsudo ./youradobeinstaller09:07
psusiomfg this is absurd.... why the hell does fdisk insist that partitions start on cylinder bounderies?  my existing partition starts at sector 63 damnit09:07
brennervbgunz: nautilus has cd/dvd burn capabilities iirc09:07
Jeniessaits not installing the base09:08
vbgunzok I am going to try it now09:08
Jeniessabase system09:08
Jeniessawhy?09:08
brennerJeniessa: have you installed win yet?09:08
vbgunzI hope burning with Nautilus works ;)09:08
vbgunzwill let you know09:08
Jeniessajust installing09:08
Jeniessait is 2nd time09:08
JeniessaxD09:08
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brennerJeniessa: the windows base system won't install?09:08
Jeniessaya09:08
Jeniessaerror09:08
brennernot our problem then....09:08
JeniessaxD09:08
Jeniessawhy?09:09
Jeniessaso compatibility?09:09
gooI wonder if Ubuntu installs nicely on a mylex 960 raid.. Will find out soon :))09:09
Jeniessameans?09:09
brenner'cos it's a windows issue....if you mean _ubuntu's_ base system....09:09
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Jeniessaubuntu base system09:09
JeniessaxD09:09
Jeniessait is not installin09:09
Jeniessai mean not done09:09
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shaoqikataklysm, thanks:)09:09
Jeniessaand have errors on it09:10
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brennerJeniessa: bad CD maybe09:10
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kjI am trying to update ubuntu and I get this error "E: /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox-gnome-support_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/libmozgnome.so', which is also in package firefox-gnome-support" ......... can I just remove it?09:10
Jeniessayay09:10
Jeniessaok09:10
JeniessaxD09:10
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vbgunzbrenner: thanks I believe Nautilus is burning those pictures from my Windows partition now... Nice ;)09:12
brennervbgunz: np09:12
deepsighthellou ppl, i am having trouble when i play mp3s from my usb drive the right channel only starts to sound weird and annoying09:13
deepsightwhen i play sounds directly from my pc is ok09:13
deepsightany ideas?09:13
vbgunzare any books for Ubuntu Linux coming out?09:14
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tiranaurebonjour09:14
tiranaurequelqun peut m'aider our cedega09:14
ColonelKernelis there any way I can just turn my local mail server OFF09:14
tritium#ubuntu-fr09:15
adltiranaure: english please here ... or #ubuntu-fr09:15
tiranaurethx09:15
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brennervbgunz: doubt it to be honest09:16
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vbgunzUbuntu is based on Debian... if I bought a guide "small book" about Debian do you think I will be able to carry that knowledge over to Ubuntu?09:17
brownie17hey, can anyone tell me if there is a way to password a folder?09:17
tritiumdefinitely, vbgunz09:17
Madpilotvbgunz: most of it, probably. the command line stuff, certainly.09:17
deepsightvbgunz, i still learn with a redhat 3 book09:17
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ompyou can just use online documentations :P09:18
brownie17how do you password a folder?09:18
Deekinvbguna: http://www.togaware.com/linux/survivor/ has an online Debian book09:18
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tritiumvbgunz, the Debian Reference is also good09:19
JDahlDeekin, there is no easy way to do that with stock Linux.09:19
neotrophy_hmmm... that's new  "sudo make-kpkg --append_to_version=-9-amd64-generic modules_image"  quits with... The contained UTS_VERSION string: "2.6.12" does not match expectations: "2.6.12-9-amd64-generic"09:19
JDahlbrownie17, that was for you09:20
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vbgunzI need a book that will tell me about file structure such as "what you put/find in /etc, /initrd, /lost+found, etc..." ... I so badly wish to jump into some program configurations such as eye of gnome and some other programs but I have no idea the structure of these programs... Coming from Windows, it was easy if it was under "Program Files" or the registry *but* being new to Linux... its like a jungle in Nautilus09:20
vbgunzthanks for that link Deekin!09:20
JDahlbrownie17, if it's important you can encrypt your files09:20
Deekinvbgunz: No problem!09:20
brownie17JDahl, nah its probably not, just wanted to learn09:20
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brennervbgunz: that's linux in general...09:21
brennertldp.org is a good one iirc09:21
vbgunzDeekin major thanks! that book looks good... I hope they have a PDF version, would like to print it out :)09:21
JDahlbrownie17, you have to normal owner/group/anyone access properties ofcourse... look at man chmod09:21
JDahls/to/the09:21
Madpilotvbgunz: O'Reilly print the best actual books for Linux (and computers generally), if you're looking for a real dead-tree book09:21
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Ex-Cyberif I'm going to buy a new mainboard, what's a good PCI Express chipset to choose for smooth sailing with Ubuntu (or free operating systems in general)?09:22
Deekinvbgunz: Hehehe hope it helps09:23
Ex-Cyberactually AGP chipset recommendations are welcome too09:23
Ex-Cyberas I'm really not sold on PCIe in general09:23
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Tirnocould anyone advise me on how to repair my firefox? Or should I install another browser/use lynx to go find the solution? I've commented out backports from my sources.list, but that doesn't seem to have sufficed09:24
vbgunzbrenner: I know but sometimes I feel like the Linux file structure is a real maze... On Windows when I couldn't find something I would search using Agent Ransack... it was good at finding almost anything but the Gnome search tool doesn't find things... Searching for something was my last line of offense and on Linux... finding how to configure things seems to get away from me :(09:24
tritiumTirno, you also have to purge the package you have installed currently09:24
vbgunzMadpilot: thanks! I was thinking about getting one of those pocket guides but if Ubuntu is not soon to come out, I would hope at least Debian is covered ;)09:25
Tirnook, which I do how? I've done man apt-get, but didn't find what I was looking for09:25
Tirnoah09:26
Tirnofound it09:26
JDahlTirno, you need "dpkg --purge"09:26
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vbgunzbrb09:26
linnerbrenner, now it looks like i'm having kernel issues so i have to redownload09:27
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neotrophy_Anyoen here good with making modules?  I'm having troubles that I haven't had before.09:28
brennerlinner: at least you're not on dialup. :)09:28
linnerbrenner, quite the contrary .. I have fiber!09:28
linnerwoo hoo!09:28
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tritiumlinner, by the way, here's the modification time for the Colony 5 amd64 install cd: 23-Sep-2005 18:5909:29
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linnertritium, what's that mean?09:29
adlactually there is a book my michael kofler on addison-wesley called "ubuntu linux" - but it focusses on end-user issues mostly as i understand09:29
tritiumIf the image you downloaded was from before that time, you might have luck with Colony 509:29
linnerI shouldn't download?09:29
linnerok...09:29
linnerI did09:29
tritiumyou should09:29
linnerso 18:59 who's time?09:30
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brennervbgunz: i'll be first the admit i don't know enough about the file structure...but i think it's more organised ... each directory stands for something eg documentation for programs can usually be found in /usr/share/doc09:30
Madeye!tell madeye09:30
brenner*first to admit09:30
Madpilotlinner: probably UTC/Zulu09:30
apsynchmm I cannot install the update x-common, is that important?09:30
Madeye!tell madeye clearlook09:30
linnerMadpilot, oh... thank you!09:30
brownie17JDahl, suppose i was to want to encrypt my files, would i need to download extra software? and if so, what?09:31
Madpilotlinner: or is that a listing from your own system?09:31
linneryou folks really are the best.. you know this right?09:31
brownie17!tell brownie17 clearlook09:31
linnerno, it's coming from the ubuntu night build site09:31
dorkiaaI had a problem with ubuntu live cd. When I used "The GIMP", the mouse got crazy09:31
neotrophy_Ok, new error... "/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-9-amd64-generic$ sudo make-kpkg --append_to_version=-9-amd64-generic modules_image" now results in... "The changelog says we are creating 2.6.12, but I thought the version is 2.6.12-9-amd64-generic"09:31
zorba64!clearlooks09:31
ubotuzorba64: Wish i knew09:31
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dorkiaaIt started blinking and pressing on the desktop09:32
JDahlbrownie17, I never had the use to do it so I dont much about it, but I think you first need to read up on installing gnu-gp (or gnu-pgp), which gives you your own encryption key09:32
vbgunzbrenner: thanks... here is just an example... If I wanted to mess or break "eye of gnome" I have no idea where it's configuration files are... I have no idea what files to mess with to break it... I don't wish to break it but I wish to mess with it and if it breaks... it's how I learn *but* first I need to learn how to find the files for any given program :)09:32
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tritiumvbgunz, dpkg -L <packagename>09:32
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ompubuntu was great until now :X09:33
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JDahlbrownie17, I think that's the biggest hurdle09:33
ompi can't get ati drivers to work in breezy09:33
vbgunztritium what does that do?09:33
cevizogluvbgunz: I break apps on Linux by changing the source code and recompiling  ;)09:33
linneromp, are you getting error messages at the install stage?09:33
tritiumvbgunz, lists the files in a given package09:33
omplinner: no the install went fine09:33
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poyieei09:33
vbgunzit will list there location?09:33
vbgunzall of them?09:34
tritiumvbgunz, yes, their locations09:34
tritiumtry it09:34
oceladohello09:34
vbgunzawesome, really awesome09:34
linneromp, i was going to give you a suggestion brenner gave me09:34
brownie17JDahl, ok09:34
tiranaurewho have an free ftp serveur ?09:34
omplinner: but it still is using mesa3d drivers09:34
brownie17!tell brownie17 about gnu-gp09:34
tritiumomp, which chipset?09:34
brownie17!tell brownie17 about gnu-pgp09:34
neotrophy_So noone able to help me with building these modules with make-kpkg?09:34
vbgunzjust one question... How do I find the real name of a program in case the obvious is not what it should be?09:34
apsynchmm I cannot install the update x-common, is that important?09:34
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tritiumapsync, most people are just forcing overwrite09:34
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Madpilot!tell brownie17 about gpg09:35
neotrophy_!tell neotrophy_ about make-kpkg09:35
JDahlbrownie17, the pgp privacy key is used for digital signatures in many OSS project. You can encrypt email and stuff with it also09:35
poyiewhere i can find the apt-get site of java?09:35
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linneromp, i'm absolutely a newbie... so i can't help you from there... but what I was told was try to use the radeon drivers for my ati 200m card09:35
tritium!tell poyie about java09:35
brennervbgunz: same way...dpkg -L...but i just usually guess and use tab-completion. :)09:35
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zorba64!java09:35
ubotuTo install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java or, for Sun's Java, ask me about !sunjava09:35
vbgunzthis is nice... I will experiment09:35
linner!tell omp about ati09:35
brennerlinner: that was tritium, not me. :)09:35
omptritium: r350 i think09:35
linnerbrenner, sorry09:35
linneromp, that was tritium09:35
linnerso sorry :)09:36
apsynctritium, how can I overwrite, it does not ask me to overwrite or keep09:36
brennerlinner: np...i like free credit. :)09:36
omplol09:36
linnerbrenner, *smile*09:36
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tiranaureWHO ARE AN FTP in  FREE ???09:36
tritiumomp, r350?  you want fglrx09:36
vbgunzholy cow... firefox came back with mad files...09:36
linnertiranaure, beg your pardon?09:36
tritiumtiranaure, stop09:36
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tiranaureplz answer me09:37
omptritium: yah i did get fglrx09:37
dorkiaaWhat's the difference between kubuntu "breezy" and kubuntu "5.10"?09:37
crimsundorkiaa: none.09:37
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omptritium: after running fglrxconfig it still is using mesa3d09:37
linnertiranaure, i'm happy to try if you can speak english :)09:37
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tiranaure:(09:37
vbgunztritium I have not seen any tab completion features in the terminal...09:37
tritiumomp, you've tried it, eh?09:37
vbgunzone sec, I will look for that09:37
poyiei downloaded already my java update jre i think but the problem is i dnt knw how to unpack on desktop09:37
omptritium: in gentoo, it works without any trouble, but i can't get it to work in breezy09:37
tritiumvbgunz, they're there, trust me09:37
linnertiranaure, what language do you speak?  I'm sure there's a forum for you.09:37
tiranaurehave you got a server ftp free ?09:37
dorkiaaSo why are there two directories here: http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/?09:38
vbgunztritium: ok am looking...09:38
linnertiranaure, I personally do not09:38
vinboyhi09:38
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crimsundorkiaa: breezy is the name for 5.10.09:38
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vinboyhow do I put xchat onto the system tray and remove from taskbar?09:38
linner!tell tiranaure about ftp servers09:38
tritiumomp, where does it fail?09:38
dorkiaaSo why are there two directories?09:38
brennersystem tray? :)09:39
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tritiumhello crimsun09:39
crimsunhi tritium09:39
matrix:|09:39
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dorkiaaIs there a kubuntu forum in hebrew?09:39
omptritium: everything seems right, but when i restart X, and type fglrxinfo, i still get mesa3d09:39
crimsundorkiaa: it doesn't matter that there are two09:39
matrixhello people :)09:40
linnermatrix, hello :)09:40
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tritiumomp, and you've followed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ?09:40
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dorkiaaOK, thanks09:40
brenneromp: probably one of two things...you didnt load the module, or you haven't changed it in xorg.conf09:40
matrixok i'm completly new to ubuntu/linux :|09:40
linnermatrix, welcome!  so am I!09:40
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matrixok but, i have a little problem09:40
linnermatrix, no fear ... there are a LOT of knowledgable pepole in here09:40
linnermatrix, what might that be?09:40
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vbgunzthanks fellas, I am tired and need rest... thanks for book references fellas and thanks for tab completion idea!09:41
matrixidk how to run exe's like my installers09:41
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linnermatrix, you can use WINE for windows EXE files09:41
tritiumgood night, vbgunz09:41
matrixO.o09:41
linnermatrix, however, it is limited to what it will run09:41
dorkiaaDoes someone know's a hebrew kubuntu forum?09:41
Madpilotmatrix: installers for what?09:41
dorkiaa*knows09:41
matrixwhere can i get this wine and how do i install it09:41
linnermatrix, through synaptic09:42
ompi'll brb09:42
shaoqihi. are there any other movie player for avi/mp3/wma formats? other than totem09:42
ompi think i might have fixed it :X09:42
linnermatrix, that is under system --> administration --> synaptic09:42
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linnermatrix, then type "wine" in the search box09:42
dorkiaaYou might want to use WineX, because it is better09:42
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brennermatrix: Madpilot's question is an important one....i'd answer it09:42
matrixok where do i get it :)09:42
linnerdorkiaa, thank you ... I didn't know that09:42
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shaoqihi. are there any other movie player for avi/mp3/wma formats? other than totem09:43
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Madpilotmatrix: what Windows programs do you want to run in Ubuntu?09:43
brenner!tell shaoqi about players09:43
matrixmsn messenger and winrar09:43
Whistlermatrix why do you need that?09:43
tritiummatrix, there are linux equivalents in ubuntu09:43
dorkiaahttp://linuxshop.ru/linuxbegin/win-lin-soft-en/table.shtml09:43
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dorkiaaThere you go09:43
brownie17is it just me or are there not many sources in limewire? like not alot of files to search through09:43
linnermatrix, you can use GAIM.. it's a universal chat program09:43
brennerthat's why it was so important. :)09:43
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matrixall the people i know are on msn and i need winrar for my .rar files09:44
dorkiaaThis is "The table of replacements of Windows software in Linux"09:44
tritiummatrix, you can communicate with them through gaim09:44
matrixO.o09:44
tritiumit supports the MSN protocol09:44
matrixwhere can i get this09:44
tritiumit's installed by default09:44
matrixO.o09:44
linnermatrix, it's very easy use09:44
matrixwhere?09:44
brownie17dorkiaa, may i also have that table please?09:44
Madpilotmatrix: Applications menu - Internet - Gaim09:44
tritiumApplications->Internet09:44
linnerapplications --> internet --> gaim09:45
matrixO.o i'm learning so much already :)09:45
Madpilotbrownie17: see that linuxshop.ru URL that dorkiaa posted, that's the table09:45
linnermatrix, i don't know what you could use for winrar though09:45
matrixyeah all my archives are rar files09:45
JDahlmatrix, (un)rar, possibly the nonfree version09:46
linnerMadpilot, any suggestions what he could download?09:46
brennermatrix: try opening them in nautilus09:46
matrixkk09:46
linnerJDahl, oh there you go :)09:46
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dorkiaaIs "Macromedia" compatable with linux?09:46
linnermatrix, give it just a couple of days...09:46
matrixnautilus would be where ?09:46
linnermatrix, I promise you'll love it...09:46
matrixi know i will09:46
matrixwindows sucks :)09:47
tritiumGlad to have you with us, matrix09:47
matrixnp09:47
Madpilotmatrix: Places menu --> Home Folder gets you Nautilus09:47
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JDahldorkiaa, there's a macromedia flashplayer for linux under universe?09:47
dorkiaamatrix, you can also use AMSN09:47
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crimsunJDahl: multiverse's flashplugin-nonfree09:47
Madpilot!flash09:47
ubotuflash is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats09:47
indypendei've solved my problem with my scanner with the sudo chmod 777 /proc/bus/usb/***/***09:47
matrixis it supposed to be a icon for that cause all thats showing is the desktop icon09:47
indypendethere is a way to run this command at boot?09:48
linnermatrix, let me see if i can find it for you... hold on just a sec.09:48
matrixkk09:48
dorkiaamatrix, http://kmess.sourceforge.net/screenshots/09:49
Madpilotmatrix: use the menus - you can set icons & shortcuts up later09:49
matrixk09:49
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linnermatrix, I can't find it either.09:50
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matrixfind what ?09:50
linnerMadpilot, where exactly is it?09:50
dorkiaamatrix, WineX ia now known as "Cedega"09:50
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linnermathieu, unrar09:50
matrixO.o09:51
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Madpilotlinner: find what?09:51
JDahla general way of searching for package content is to use apt-cache, e.g., "apt-cache search messenger"09:51
linnermatrix was trying to find unrar09:51
indypendei've solved my problem with my scanner with the sudo chmod 777 /proc/bus/usb/***/***09:51
indypendethere is a way to run this command at boot?09:51
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linnerMadpilot, you said it was on the desktop .. i can't find it either...09:51
JDahl"apt-cache search unrar" works also...09:52
linnerMadpilot, you understand what i'm talking about?09:52
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Madpilotlinner: unrar? nope... someone else suggested that matrix check with Nautilus - I was trying to tell him where Nautilus is in the menus09:53
acadi have a problem, i have some stuff that says i have unmet dependencies when i go to install a program,  *i can't do a apt-get -f install* cause it says it's going to remove half the system.  how do i remove the items that have unmet dependincies instead?09:53
linneroh... man....09:53
linnermatrix, go to applications --> system tools ---> terminal09:53
linnertype this...09:53
matrixok...09:54
dorkiaaForum post about games in linux (in hebrew :P ) : http://whatsup.org.il/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&p=160743#16074309:54
deFryskacad, what program ?09:54
acadlibc6-dev09:54
linnersudo apt-cache search unrar09:54
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linnerit will ask for your root (administrator) password09:54
brennerno need for sudo09:54
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Madpilotlinner: sudo uses the user pw, not root, remember...09:55
linnerbrenner, no?09:55
deFryskacad, any non ubuntu repositories in your sources.list ?09:55
acaddeFrysk libc6-dev is the program with unmet depenencies09:55
brennermatrix: did you try the nautilus/file-roller way?09:55
linneroh it does?... ok... no, I didn't know that at all09:55
linnersorry09:55
linnerbut it won't hurt it will it?09:55
matrixnope09:55
acaddeFrysk yea (accidently)  but i fixed it09:55
matrixsudo apt-cache search unrar <- noffin09:55
acadi caut it pretty quick09:55
neotrophy_Anyone playing with the Composite extension?09:55
deFryskacad, maybe there kies your prob then09:55
linnermatrix, i made a mistake09:55
linnerno need for sudo09:56
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matrixok09:56
acadyea-  i know the problem. i want to fix it hehe09:56
linnerjust type apt-cache search unrar09:56
poyiecan u pls give me again the site for java09:56
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brenneryeah, apt-cache searches/shows don't need sudo09:56
JDahlmatrix, then you need to enable universe/multiverse09:56
Madpilot!tell poyie about java09:56
linnerbrenner, understood... i'm learning too :)09:56
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brennermatrix: i suggest you do first before getting unrar etc09:56
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brennermatrix: you might be lucky and your archives will be read09:56
deFryskacad, what alien repo did you have in your sources.lis ?09:56
brennerif not, _then_ do what everyone is telling you to do09:56
linnerbrenner, I dont' think he knows how to do that... can you help walk him through it?  I'm not an expert at these commands (obviously) yet.09:57
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matrix:)09:57
brownie17so.. word is that "freecraft" was issued a cease and decist by blizzard!, how's about that, eh?09:57
brennermatrix: ok, where are you archives?09:57
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brennerarchive files rather09:57
acaddeFrysk *a private one*  it was from a company i work for...09:57
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matrixon my jump drive09:57
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indypendei've solved my problem with my scanner with the sudo chmod 777 /proc/bus/usb/***/***09:57
indypendethere is a way to run this command at boot?09:57
JDahlmatrix, have you used synaptic yet? that's a graphical tool for package management09:58
deFryskacad, and did you use ubuntuguide to set up your os ?09:58
brennermatrix: have you got it mounted then so you can acess them?09:58
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matrixyeah i do but idk what to do from there09:58
linnermatrix, aka add/remove programs09:58
acaddeFrysk i didn't set it up09:58
acaddeFrysk so i don't know09:58
JDahlmatrix, you should use that to enable the universe/multiverse repositories. After that you can search for unrar (using either apt-cache or synaptic)09:58
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deFryskacad, are there backport repo's in your sources.list ?09:59
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matrixok tell me how to enable it09:59
tiranaurei love english09:59
linnertiranaure, great!09:59
acadthe private repository which i used by acident and canceled which caused this is newer then the ubuntu one10:00
JDahlmatrix, I never use synaptic, but I think there's a menu called "repositories" or something like that10:00
acaddeFrysk if that makes any sense10:00
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matrixyep there is10:00
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linnermatrix, choose the version you have of ubuntu10:01
deFryskacad, not sure what to do about your prob exept vor removal of all "alien packages and reinstall the origina ones10:01
gizmohallo10:01
JDahlmatrix, then enable universe and multiverse and update the package list10:01
manuel_ HOLA A TODOS ALGUIEN ME AYUDA POR FAVOR10:01
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acaddeFrysk how would i remove all alien packages?10:01
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manuel_ALGUIEN QUE HABLE  ESPAOL10:01
brennermanuel_: #ubuntu-es10:01
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gizmoexist a german ubuntu channel ?10:01
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acadapt-get won't let me remove anything until i fix the issue10:01
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manuel_OK10:01
deFryskacad, you installed them , so hunt htem down I would say10:01
manuel_GRACIAS10:01
brennergizmo: #ubuntu-de maybe?10:02
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acadok,  i know the package- but how would i remove it?10:02
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deFryskacad, another solution might be upgrading to breezy10:02
NiLzwhat's wrong with mozilla-firefox 1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1 from hoary-security?10:02
gizmothanx10:03
NiLzcan't install it for some strange reason10:03
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deFryskacad, althoug breezy is still under development10:03
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indypendewhat's the difference between chmod 777 or chmod a+rw10:03
matrixok check the boxes for mu10:03
deFryskNiLz, strange reason might be backports ?10:03
matrixltiverse and universe ?10:03
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NiLzdeFrysk: disabled10:03
JDahlacad, Dont upgrade to Breezy until you get more confortable with apt-get etc.10:03
Madpilotindypende: 777 = a+rwx - ie everyone has full read/write/execute privs10:03
Madpilot!tell matrix about repos10:04
deFryskNiLz, but your firefox is from backports ?10:04
NiLzdeFrysk: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/248210:04
matrixman check the boxes with multiverse and universe then hit add ?10:04
neotrophy_indypende: a+rw would be 66610:04
indypendeMadpilot, i need to run a chmod at bott?10:04
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indypendeMadpilot, how can i do it?10:04
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NiLzdeFrysk: how can I check this?10:05
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deFryskNiLz, dunno , everybody is having probs here , due to backports10:05
dorkiaawell, i am going to try kubuntu in hebrew :(10:05
dorkiaa*:)10:05
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ouroboroshey all, I'm havin trouble with Gallery for Image Gallery Server installation on Ubuntu Hoary 64-bit10:06
Madpilotindypende: no idea - there must be a more graceful way of doing whatever you're trying that a chmod 777 at every boot?10:06
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Ixchaelso, anyone have any ideas on fixing firefox after the latest update? I keep getting errors that they are trying to overwrite the same files10:06
indypendeneotrophy_, , i need to run a chmod at bott?10:06
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indypendeneotrophy_, troph, how can i do it?10:07
neotrophy_indypende: What do you mean "at bott"?10:07
ouroborosafter going through ubuntuguide's install, I've specified a password, but when trying to log in to the page, it asks for user as well - is that www-data? if so, it seems I can't log in with the specified password10:07
tiranaurei am french and i MUCH LOVE ENgLAND !10:07
acadwell here goes- i'm sure to screw this up10:07
cevizogluneotrophy_, he means at boot10:07
NiLzdeFrysk: strange, don't they check compatability of the backporst packages?10:07
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indypendeneotrophy_, at boot... sorry10:07
deFryskouroboros, ubuntuguide is a pain10:07
Madpilot!+ubuntuguide10:07
ubotumethinks ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.10:07
j-linuxI thought that apt-get install msttcorefonts would work, but it doesn't and MS site says they are no longer available?10:07
deFryskouroboros, stay away from it10:07
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ouroborosdeFrysk well it hasn't been that tough for me, but Gallery is really my only problem, I can't log in to the configuration php10:08
indypendeMadpilot, it's a know problem... i can't access my scanner only as root10:08
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j-linuxIs there another way to get the fonts easily?10:08
ouroborosI have Hoary edition10:08
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crimsunj-linux: which version of msttcorefonts?10:08
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deFryskNiLz, we warn for ubuntuguide and backorts here every day every hour every minute , but people are totally deaf10:08
indypendeMadpilot, and if i chmod the device i can but every time i reboot he loose the permission for user!10:08
j-linuxcrimsun: I'm not sure -- I didn't know there were different versions.  I'm just trying to add more fonts to Ubuntu: Arial, Verdana, Georgia, etc.10:09
ouroborosdeFrysk - I have Hoary, isn't ubuntuguide acceptable for Hoary??10:09
deFryskouroboros, no no no and again absolutely not!10:09
ouroborosfoiled again.10:09
NiLzdeFrysk: well, some progs can only be found at backports10:09
crimsunj-linux: dpkg -l msttcorefonts|grep ^ii10:09
zorba64j-linux: they work for me - there are in multiverse10:09
{CyberFreak}hi all10:09
IxchaelCan anyone help? My firefox is completely broken after today's update. When trying to install the rest of the packages or removing firefox for reinstall I get this error: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/var/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions.d/00classic', which is also in package firefox10:09
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deFryskNiLz, ant thus break your system10:09
jadguys, I have hd6/ (partition) and hdb1 (another hdd), I need to mount them, any idea?10:10
crimsunoh no, not the backports issue again.10:10
Madpilotindypende: that's messy... sorry, I've got no idea10:10
ouroborosanyway, can anyone help with Gallery?10:10
locomorto!tell jad about ntfs10:10
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j-linuxzorba64: oh.. I thought they were supposed to be in Universe.  Multiverse is different?10:10
ouroborosI can't seem to find what I'm looking for out there10:10
cevizogluIxchael, if you don't find a solution, try running another browser until it gets fixed10:10
Madpilotcrimsun: you might want to change the /topic to help all the Firefox users...10:10
j-linuxcrimsun: I just type that at the terminal?10:10
locomortoMultiverse is for non-opesnsourece stuff10:10
zorba64Ixchael: try apt-get remove --purge firefox mozilla-firefox10:10
locomortoMultiverse is for non-opensource*10:10
ouroborosDoes www-data need to be activated or something for it to work properly?10:11
indypendeMadpilot, i suppose i can insert the chmod in /etc/init.d/locale but there is not!10:11
Madeyelocomorto,  it's not ntfs all are ext310:11
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locomortoMadeye: And there not mounting automagically?10:11
ouroborosI see, well isn't that a calamity.10:11
zorba64j-linux: just put multiverse after ant lines that have universe in them in your /etc/apt/sources.list10:11
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locomortoMadeye: man fstab ; man mount10:11
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crimsunMadpilot: apparently it's already in the topic ;)10:11
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poyiehw to install chikka on ubuntu?10:12
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Chousukechikka?10:12
ouroborosHow-to install Gallery on Hoary?10:12
poyieyeh10:12
{CyberFreak}i have upgrade to breezy and sound didnt work with 2.6.12-9 kernel10:12
Madeyelocomorto,  no they are no10:12
Madeyet10:12
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crimsun{CyberFreak}: lspci -v|grep -i audio10:12
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{CyberFreak}if i boot with old kernel 2.6.10 sound works10:12
poyiehow?10:12
Chousukepoyie: wtf is it?  :p10:12
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locomortoMadeye: fstab and mount is what you need to use10:13
poyiei already find the installation page but it didnt work10:13
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Chousukeok.10:13
Chousukeso. answer my question.10:13
ouroborosHe is a meat popsicle.10:13
{CyberFreak}and i cant install ndiswrapper module10:13
{CyberFreak}operation dont permited10:13
NiLzdeFrysk: it's strange, take me for example, I just moved from fedora, I used to have livna, freshrpms etc etc repos to install the soft from10:13
Madpilotpoyie: if you told us what it is, and which install instructions you were following, that would help...10:13
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j-linuxzorba64: "ant lines" ?10:13
NiLzdeFrysk: never had any problems10:13
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zorba64j-linux: any lines10:13
NiLzdeFrysk: of course I tried mainly to install the soft from the official repos10:13
poyiehttp://java.chikka.com/install/install_body.php?client_id=&version=&username=&password=10:13
NiLzdeFrysk: but some progs like xine, k3b, couldn't be found there10:14
poyietry dis10:14
{CyberFreak}thanks crimsum but i cant boot with 2.6.12 coz i dont have wireless on my laptop :(10:14
NiLzdeFrysk: unofficial repos were fully compatible10:14
Slarti-w00t10:14
crimsun{CyberFreak}: using your 2.6.10 kernel, tell me the contents of /proc/asound/modules10:14
{CyberFreak}ok10:14
Slarti-my zen micro connects in ubuntu10:14
Chousukepoyie: do you have java installed?10:14
tritiumpoyie, my wife has run the java version of chikka on hoary10:14
Slarti-a feet never managed in mandrake or slack10:14
poyiedats my problem i cannot install java10:15
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Ixchaelcevizoglu, zorba64: thanks for the help! It works now :)10:15
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Madpilotlater, all. need sleep badly...10:15
{CyberFreak}crimsun,  check pm10:15
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Slarti-I officially no longer need to use windows10:15
tritiumpoyie, pinay?  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java or ask ubotu about sunjava10:16
poyiek tnx10:16
zorba64!sun-java10:16
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, zorba6410:16
j-linuxzorba64: how do I find out the URL of multiverse? (sorry, I've never done this)10:16
zorba64!sunjava10:16
ubotuFor Sun-Java debs add this line to your /etc/apt/sources.list (for hoary) deb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ hoary java  ; or go to seveas.ubuntulinux.nl (for Breezy)10:16
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j-linuxI think I may have found it10:17
zorba64j-linux: any line that has universe in it, just type multiverse on that line after it10:17
matrixok i got the updates for synaptic now what am i looking for :|10:17
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poyiei already have myfile:///home/user/Desktop/jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586-rpm.bin10:17
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JDahlmatrix, were you looking for unrar? then type that in the search bar10:18
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poyied prob is that i dnt knw how to install10:18
zorba64j-linux: eg deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse is a line from mine10:18
j-linuxzorba64: ok, thanks.  I'll try it.  Just "multiverse" on a line after any URL with "universe"10:18
tritiumpoyie, that's the wrong package format10:18
matrixok10:18
poyieah ok10:18
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poyiewats d right10:18
j-linuxzorba64: so you mean copy the same URL format but substitute the word "multiverse"?10:18
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NiLzhow can I see the installed package?10:19
NiLzI mean the version etc10:19
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zorba64poyie: just add multiverse to each universe line, dont copy mine word for word I use breezy10:19
NiLzwith rpm its rpm -qa | grep smth10:19
flyingpenguin900how do people open seprate X servers?10:20
spiralhi10:20
zorba64poyie: the other one, that ends in .bin10:20
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tritiumzorba64, are you going to walk her through using java-package?10:20
poyiehw bout rpm?10:20
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zorba64tritium: I have before10:21
tritiumzorba64, awesome, thanks10:21
cx22hello everyone!10:21
poyierpm.bin10:21
matrixok found it now what10:21
bob2flyingpenguin900: to do what?10:21
cx22its me again10:21
linnerhi cx2210:21
cx22can someone help me out?10:21
StrikeForcehas anyone got this error /etc/dbus-1/event.d/20hal: line 50: kill: (7295) - No such process10:21
cx22i have a problem in my Gnome10:21
StrikeForceafter upgrading to breezy?10:21
zorba64poyie: no, not the rpm one...the .bin only one10:21
cx22sez canot find internet conection10:21
bob2StrikeForce: did you log out and in again?10:21
cx22who?10:22
cx22bob2, is that for me?10:22
StrikeForcebob2, it happens on reboot constantly10:22
poyiei have bin..d sellf xtracting10:22
ouroborosCan anyone help with Gallery for Image Gallery Server under Ubuntu Hoary? I don't know if I'm supposed to user www-data for the login name or what...10:22
bob2StrikeForce: sure you're up-to-date?10:22
StrikeForcebob2, not on startup just when I shut down10:22
StrikeForceyup just ran aptitude now10:22
cx22linner, can u help me?10:22
bob2cx22: ?10:22
cx22bob2, can u help me too?10:22
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bob2cx22: it's really hard and annoying to help people if they don't provide a good description of the problem10:23
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bob2for instance, you'd need to tell us how you get that error10:23
bob2and what program it's from10:23
zorba64poyie: if rpm is in the name, its the wrong one, you need : jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i58610:23
bob2and whether you've setup a network yet10:23
linnercx22, i'm not very eperienced at ll10:23
NiLzhow can I list all installed packages?10:23
Ex-Cyberwill an Athlon 64 operate correctly with PC2100 RAM? (yes, I know it won't be fast...)10:23
linnercx22, i'll try though10:23
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zorba64poyie: jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin10:23
flyingpenguin900bob2: sorry, I have seen some people say they play their games on diff X servers...10:24
bob2NiLz: COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | grep ^ii10:24
cx22that's the problem, i just tried to setup my LAN connection, and when i rebooted, it said that GNOME has problems and can't connect to the internet10:24
poyiejre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586-rpm.bin10:24
poyieds s wrong?10:24
bob2flyingpenguin900: ctrl-alt-f1, login, 'startx -- :1' (no quotes)10:24
cx22can't quite understand what to do... or what i've done10:24
zorba64poyie: yes, wrong one10:24
tritiumpoyie, yes, because it has "rpm" in it10:24
poyieok10:24
poyietnx10:24
tritiumget the one that does not have "rpm" in it10:24
StrikeForcebob2, it also happens if I run sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart10:25
NiLzmozilla-firefo 1.0.6-1ubuntu110:25
NiLzthats what I have installed now10:25
NiLzis this a backport package?10:25
cx22bob2: can u help me?10:25
cx22i just switched from Windows to Linux. have no idea bout this OS10:25
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NiLzfirefox 1.0.6-1ubuntu1 is there as well10:26
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StrikeForcetell you what though breezy is heaps faster :)10:26
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robbieis totem capable of playing anything10:26
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bob2cx22: I've never used the gnome network thing, sorry10:26
robbieor do i need to install plugins10:26
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bob2cx22: try asking on the mailing list, and including the settings the yo uentered10:26
KnelixIs the NVidia driver fixed in Breezy?10:26
crimsunrobbie: totem-xine works great for me10:26
bob2Knelix: if it was, it would be noted in the BTS10:27
cx22what should i use instead? what are you using right now?10:27
crimsunrobbie: totem-gstreamer should work for you10:27
bob2cx22: I just edit /etc/network/interfaces manually10:27
StrikeForceKnelix, not as of last night10:27
Knelixbob2: Ah... And where is that?10:27
cx22can you teach me that?10:27
bob2Knelix: bugzilla.ubuntu.com10:27
robbiecrimsun: i am yet to find amedia file it can play10:27
bob2cx22: not in the 30 seconds I have before I go to dinner, sorry10:27
robbienot even an mpeg stream10:27
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KnelixStrikeForce, bob2: Okay, thanks.10:27
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StrikeForceKnelix, I compiled from source last night10:27
robbiethe gstreamer version10:27
StrikeForceKnelix, so I'm fine :)10:27
cx22can you just e-mail it to me? please? i really need your help!10:27
bigfoot1hi all, in my websurfing I come across some links that are for audio. How can I get files ending in smi to work. My ubuntu seems to want to open them up using gedit. weird. One particular example is this: http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil.php?passage=Luke+1%3A1.10:28
tritiumcx22, man interfaces will help you10:28
m0r0nI ve installed Realplayer 10, but it cant be startet from the gnome panel. I ve read to change the autospawn value from 0 to 1, but it has no effect.10:28
KnelixStrikeForce: I'm not at that level yet in Linux, though I hope to be at some point. :-)10:28
cx22tritium, i've been tryin..10:28
bob2cx22: wtf10:28
KnelixStrikeForce: I'm "coming" from Darwin/Mac OS, Linux being my second OS.10:29
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cx22can't open System>Administration>Networking10:29
tiranaurei am french and i MUCH LOVE ENgLAND !10:29
tiranaurei am french and i MUCH LOVE ENgLAND !10:29
tiranaurei am french and i MUCH LOVE ENgLAND !10:29
tiranaurei am french and i MUCH LOVE ENgLAND !10:29
tiranaurei am french and i MUCH LOVE ENgLAND !10:29
tiranaurei am french and i MUCH LOVE ENgLAND !10:29
tiranaurei am french and i MUCH LOVE ENgLAND !10:29
tiranaurei am french and i MUCH LOVE ENgLAND !10:29
tiranaurei am french and i MUCH LOVE ENgLAND !10:29
tiranaurei am french and i MUCH LOVE ENgLAND !10:29
snorksgreat10:29
tiranaurei am french and i MUCH LOVE ENgLAND !10:29
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JDahlstupid french people...10:29
deFrysktime to ban ?10:29
StrikeForcehahaha10:29
StrikeForceI agree10:29
bob2cx22: emailing my one is of no use.  /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz10:29
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StrikeForceKnelix, its not that hard10:29
poyieis there anyone there has a fully tutorial about linux10:29
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tritiumbob2, you're too fast ;)10:29
cx22k... i'll try it10:29
poyiei mean preferences10:29
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KnelixStrikeForce: It never is, once you're there. :-)10:30
bob2everytime I see a .ipt.aol.com, my trigger finger gets itchy10:30
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StrikeForceKnelix, do you want me to give youa  link?10:30
crimsuntritium: it's the #debian experience ;)10:30
StrikeForceKnelix, it explains it step by step10:30
poyieyeah10:30
tritiumcrimsun, :)10:30
poyiewhere is it10:30
bigfoot1any opera users here?10:30
deFrysk!opera10:31
KnelixStrikeForce: Well, I'm not sure if my head is clear enough for that now, but sure I'll take a look and bookmark. :-)10:31
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furicTheres some in #css10:31
poyieany internet explorer user here?10:31
cazabambigfoot110:31
poyiejoke!!10:31
cazabambigfoot1, yes, I use oepra10:31
deFryskbigfoot1, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser10:31
StrikeForceKnelix, give me a few mins I'll give you the link just trying to burn something atm :)10:32
poyieok10:32
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KnelixStrikeForce: Haha.. Ok, no prob.10:32
poyiedis is my email add meotow16@yahoo.com10:32
poyieif you have time just send me then10:32
bigfoot1cazabam, thanks. may i ask you a question regarding audio? I'm trying to get a smi (audio) file to work. When i click on the link, it asks if i want to download it. Then when i select open, it opens up gedit. Maybe you can tell me what your Preferences/advanced/downloads. Here is an example URL http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil.php?passage=Luke+1%3A110:33
CrytpidHi every 1 i have a Big problem i installed some Ice and gdesklet and now my computer dosent load the Gnome interface it only shows the login msg from terminal and then after i login i am still in command line interface how to i restore my computer to its previous settings10:34
StrikeForceKnelix, they've changed the layout of k3b :(10:34
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KnelixStrikeForce: huh?....10:34
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Echelon-Hhmmm I have some very weird going on, I finished download some rar, and it just won't extract.10:34
Crytpidi have lots of important files on my Harddisk that i dont want to loose10:34
deFryskEchelon-H, get unrar-non-free10:34
JDahlEchelon-H, you need unrar to extract, ditto for zip/unzip10:34
deFryskEchelon-H, get unrar-nonfree that is10:35
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Mephist0i got a problem :( my ubuntu has been up and running for 40 days.. when i restarted it now (the update package utility installed a new kernel a while ago) it wont boot now.. i come to a grub> prompt.. its the boot loader but how do i get it to boot? :(10:35
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ouroboroscan anyone help?10:36
cazabambigfoot1, when it asks to to open/save, click the 'Change..' button10:36
Mephist0its probably a very simple problem.. or not a problem at all... but im used to just start ubunto and then it boots up.....10:36
bigfoot1ok...10:36
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cazabamthen check the 'use other application' radio button10:36
cazabamand type the name of your smi player into the box directly under it10:37
deFrysk!tell ouroboros about ask10:37
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Mephist0!tell Mephist0 about grub10:37
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bigfoot1cazabam, what's an example of smi player? i have totem,vlc, xine, musicplayer10:37
matrixhave any of u ever heard of tor?10:37
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JDahlmatrix, unless you are up to no good, you dont need it...10:38
matrixrofl10:38
matrixi need it10:38
zorba64!grub10:38
ubotugrub is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting10:38
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matrixdon't matter if i'm up to no good or not10:38
John6000!lilo10:38
ubotuJohn6000: Did you get hit by a windmill?10:38
John6000?10:38
John6000why10:38
matrixi used tor on windows10:38
CryptidHELP PLZ!!!! my ubuntu dosent load its stuck in terminal the Gnome interface is not loading what do i do i thing i screwed my sys by installing some other softwares like gdesklets PLZ help ME10:38
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John6000ubotu: WHY???10:39
ubotuBecause that's that10:39
John6000:/10:39
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StrikeForceKnelix, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5292410:39
StrikeForceKnelix, that'll help you out10:39
JDahlmatrix, there are debian packages for tor/privoxy etc., so should be as easy to install as any other package10:40
pontCryptid, do you get any error10:40
StrikeForceKnelix, print it or write it down so you can just go straight to console and do it there10:40
cazabambigfoot1, realplayer plays them, I think10:40
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pontCryptid, what happens when you type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start10:40
bigfoot1cazabam, is realplayer what you use?10:40
Mephist0its probably a very simple problem.. or not a problem at all... but im used to just start ubunto and then it boots up..... Can anyone just tell me how i boot my system up again? .. I have nothing special. Only a partition with Ubuntu.. no windows or anything on that machine..10:40
zorba64bigfoot1: fyi http://service.real.com/help/library/guides/production/htmfiles/extensn.htm10:40
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m0r0nI hate linux10:40
matrixok i'm installing somethings thru synatic now10:40
matrix*synaptic10:40
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John6000m0r0n dont say that10:40
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Mephist0i got a problem :( my ubuntu has been up and running for 40 days.. when i restarted it now (the update package utility installed a new kernel a while ago) it wont boot now.. i come to a grub> prompt.. its the boot loader but how do i get it to boot? :(10:40
matrixu hate linux =O!10:41
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bigfoot1zorba64, thanks for the input. So only realplayer plays smi files? how about totem, vlc, xine, etc?10:41
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Cryptidpont, No it loads the begging and then its ask me to login(not the graphical interface) like in Terminal and then it shows user@ubuntu$ and then i am stuck in terminal mode only10:41
locomortoMephist0: whats the output in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?10:41
cazabambigfoot1, I don't particularly play SMIL files, but I do know how mime handling works in opera :)10:41
Cryptidpont, i didnt try this type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start will this command work10:41
StrikeForceMephist0, boot into the old kernel? if you still can10:42
bigfoot1cazabam, thanks. then I guess i'll get realplayer, if that's what i need to play SMIL files.10:42
pontCryptid, GDM is the graphical login10:42
bigfoot1what's the best/safest/painless way of getting realplayer onto my ubuntu?10:42
apsyncis it possible to open splitted rar files (eg; hello.part1.rar, hello.part2.rar, ...)10:42
zorba64bigfoot1: xine & vlc might, if you install the win32 codecs10:42
Mephist0StrikeForce: yes, but how do i do that? .. im in the grub> prompt and cant boot the system.. and im a n00b :)10:42
bigfoot1zorba64, i think i have installed the win32 codecs.10:42
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cazabambigfoot1, realplayer is in backports (I think)10:43
bigfoot1zorba64, i'll give it a shot, now.10:43
Mephist0locomorto: how can i check that when im in the grub> prompt?10:43
pontCryptid, could be that your xorg.conf has been changed and wont work10:43
Cryptidpont, I dont get the GDM login at all and thats the problem how do i fix it10:43
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locomortoMephist0: do you get to a terminal?10:43
locomortoie:10:43
locomortologin:10:43
Mephist0locomorto: no...10:43
locomortoWhere does it fail?10:43
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Cryptidpont, ya u may be rite xorg.conf file may be changed i am new to linux and i dont know how to reverse it can u help me10:43
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pontCryptid, well it could also mean the damoen isn't loading just try /etc/init.d/gdm start and see if gdm starts10:43
bigfoot1zorba64, could you try this http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil.php?passage=Luke+1%3A1 in your vlc, please? it doesn't work for me.10:44
Mephist0locomorto: when i start the pc it directly goes to the grub> prompt...10:44
Mephist0locomorto: and you can press tab to have a little command list..10:44
xophErapsync, open the first rar file, it opens the rest too10:44
Mephist0locomorto: its probably because the kernel update a while ago i guess..10:44
apsynchmm10:44
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zorba64bigfoot1: http://www.real.com/linux?pcode=rn&src=freeplayer_partner&opage=freeplayer_partner10:44
locomortoWhat kernels can you choose from?10:44
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pontCryptid, if the xorg.conf has changed the only advise i can really give is to type X and see what the error messgae is10:44
Mephist0locomorto: how do i list them?10:44
locomortoYou tell us?10:45
bigfoot1zorba64, does your latest post mean that i should give up using vlc and xine for playing SMIL files, and just go to Realplayer?10:45
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locomortoAre you on breezy?10:45
pontCryptid, someones going to have to see the error from X to fix the problem10:45
Mephist0locomorto: 5.04 ... hoary or something.. rite?10:45
zorba64bigfoot1: nope, just info for you...your choice10:45
Cryptidpontu, i typed X and this screen comes up and shows a funny 4 cornered mouse and a 8-bit graphic screen10:45
m0r0nI ve installed Realplayer 10, but nothing happens when starting it10:45
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bigfoot1zorba64, could you please try that link i sent you with your vlc, please?10:46
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Cryptidpontu, i mean only the screen is there and nothing else10:46
KnelixUgh.. trying to retrieve my old folding@home account to run on Ubuntu.... but cannot remember my user name.... ugh...10:46
pontCryptid, ok press ctrl-alt and backspace at the same time and that screen will disapear, your xorg.conf is fine10:46
TobbeHi. I've installed Breezy from the pre .iso The first part of the install went smooth, but when I got to the part where the installer want's to reboot my computer I get stuck at "starting hotplug subsystem". I saw a few posts about it on the ubuntu forums, but most of them just said "remove everything connected to your usb ports". I've done that (just my mouse), but it didn't help. What else...10:46
frank_bhi all. just upgraded ubuntu, it gave two errors about mozilla packages, now I can't use mozilla... anyone here had the same problem when they upgraded it today?10:46
Tobbe...can I try?10:46
bigfoot1i don't really want to get realplayer if one of the half dozen audio players i already have work.10:46
PlutoPrimeanyone knows why azureus is not supplied in universe of multiverse??? Is it because of Java dependancies and java legal problems?10:46
Mephist0locomorto: im in the grub> prompt.. i guess its the boot loader? .. "minimal bash-like line editing"10:46
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locomortoWhat kernels can you choose from10:46
locomortoie 2.6.10-5-38610:47
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zorba64bigfoot1: give me a couple of mins10:47
Mephist0locomorto: well i dont know! :( i just got to this prompt when i rebooted my machine..10:47
Mephist0locomorto: it has been up for 40 days...10:47
bigfoot1zorba64, thank you for your time.10:47
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pontCryptid, what happens if you just type 'gdm' or /etc/init.d/xdm start10:47
Mephist0locomorto: i only have ubuntu installed on that machine .. and its the first time i see the grub> prompt10:47
Cryptidpontu, ya i also pressed the zlt-ctrl+bkspance and i came back to the previous screen but some diffrent lines i observed sayin that some graphic couldnt be loaded or some thing like that10:48
Mephist0locomorto: cant i just get passed this grub thing by just make it boot somehow?10:48
ColonelKernelcan anyone recommend a business accounting software suite for linux?10:48
Cryptidpontu, i didnt try typing gdm or /etc/init/d/xdm start10:48
Cryptidpontu, do u want me to try running these commands10:49
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pontCryptid, yea try that ?10:49
frank_bhow does one do a "smart upgrade"?10:49
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Mephist0locomorto: it says when i press tab "possible commands are: background blocklist boot cat chainloader clear cmp color configfile debug displayapm displaymem embed find foreground fstest geometry halt help hide impsprobe initrd install ioprobe kernel" and so on...10:49
PlutoPrimeColonelKernel, I'm afraid if you are looking for a Quicken or MS Money replacement your are out of luck10:49
deFryskfrank_, dits-upgrade = smart-upgrade10:49
StrikeForceMephist0, does any other kernel options come up?10:49
deFryskdist*10:49
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PlutoPrimeI doubt there is anything with that level of maturity and functionality10:49
frank_bthanks deFrysk10:50
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Cryptidpont ok i will try it i will am now on the live disk i will reboot and if i have ne problems i will come back to u,, ne ways how long will u stay here?10:50
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Mephist0StrikeForce: see my message to locomorto above...10:50
linnerPlutoPrime, is there a Quickbooks replacement?10:50
StrikeForceMephist0, I know wha tyou say but once you reboot10:50
ColonelKernelPlutoPrime, no more like an enterprise-level accounting software package like accpac10:50
Mephist0StrikeForce: i guess this is the bootloader and i just have to tell it from where it is supposed to boot..10:50
StrikeForcekk10:50
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Mat_25_Hello10:50
StrikeForceMephist0, I'll tell you how to do it10:50
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linnerMat_25_, hello :)10:50
Mephist0StrikeForce: ok..10:51
Mephist0:D10:51
pontCryptid, for a while,10:51
PlutoPrimelinner, gnucash comes to mind10:51
StrikeForceMephist0, do you know what kernel you have?10:51
bigfoot1where's xine (the program) located on a ubuntu pc10:51
daejavuhow can i control the Services that start at boot time .. i mean before the Gnome Starts ?10:51
bigfoot1?10:51
Mephist0StrikeForce: no :(10:51
linnerPlutoPrime, oh okay... i saw that on a list somewhere10:51
ColonelKerneltheres a few on freshmeat but I dont know which one would be good for a large business10:51
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StrikeForceMephist0, these are the commands that need to be edited10:51
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Mephist0StrikeForce: i know that i have the hoary dist and that there was a kernel update via the update utility a while ago... the only kernel update i have seen..10:51
iccafe03june10:52
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StrikeForceMephist0, root            (hd2,1)10:52
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StrikeForceyour won't be hd2,110:52
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StrikeForceI'm not sure what your layout is10:52
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StrikeForceis it on y our main drive10:52
PlutoPrimeColonelKernel, I would recommend trying them :( or read some user review if there are any10:52
StrikeForcewhat partition is it10:52
pontHas anyone experianced a problem while installing the AMD64 5.10 Relese when an error 'Not installing to unclean target10:52
Cryptidpont, ne way thanx for all ur help10:52
Mephist0StrikeForce: if i typ root it says "(hd0,0): filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83"10:52
pontnvm10:52
StrikeForceMephist0, ok10:52
zorba64bigfoot1: tried it...didnt work at all...realplayer may be your only joy10:52
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StrikeForceMephist0, kernel          /vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-386 root=/dev/sda3 ro single10:53
ColonelKerneli was hoping someone here worked at a company that used one10:53
PlutoPrimeLinux is lacking a little on the $$$ software. Makes it hard for businesses to use it as their main platform for all accounting purposes10:53
bigfoot1zorba64, okay. i'll install realplayer. thanks for your time.10:53
StrikeForceMephist0, then initrd          /initrd.img-2.6.10-5-38610:53
John6000.10:53
zorba64bigfoot1: np10:53
StrikeForceMephist0, then boot10:53
Mephist0strikeforce: when i typ kernel it says "error 1: filename must be either and absolute pathname or blocklist".. shall i enter your settings?10:53
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StrikeForceMephist0,  'initrd /initrd.img-2.6.10-5-386'10:54
StrikeForceassuming its hd0,010:54
StrikeForceyou don't know where you installed it?10:54
StrikeForceis it in your first hdd10:54
StrikeForcego from there10:54
Mephist0StrikeForce: yes, i only have one hdd in my comp.. and only with ubuntu on the comp...10:54
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PlutoPrimeColonelKernel, there is a discussion on the ubuntu dev-mailing list regarding an ubuntu derivative for businesses that has a preinstalled set of business/accounting applications10:55
StrikeForceMephist0, oh ok10:55
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Mephist0StrikeForce: so shall i enter the settings you typed?10:55
ColonelKernelthanks10:55
StrikeForceMephist0, then root (hd0,0)10:55
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PlutoPrimeI believe they discuss throughly what's currently available (Software)10:55
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Mephist0StrikeForce: yes, that is already set right..10:55
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bigfoot1i can't install the realplayer.bin file. I get an error message: The filename "RealPlayer10GOLD.bin" indicates that this file is of type "unknown". The contents of the file indicate that the file is of type "executable". If you open this file, the file might present a security risk to your system.10:55
Mephist0StrikeForce: but i need something for kernel and something for initrd10:55
StrikeForceMephist0, initrd /initrd.img-2.6.10-5-38610:55
StrikeForceahh k10:55
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Mephist0StrikeForce: need kernel first..10:56
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StrikeForceMephist0, kernel          /vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-386 root=/dev/hda1 ro single10:56
Mephist0StrikeForce: ok.. hold on..10:56
zorba64bigfoot1: chmod +x Realpl.....bin10:56
matrixyeah getting used to it already =] 10:56
StrikeForcetry that assuming the partitions are correct10:56
bigfoot1zorba64, ok. i didn't know that was necessary. i thought any .bin file could just be doubleclicked10:56
bigfoot1thanks, zorba6410:56
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StrikeForceis it sata hdd of ata hdd?10:57
zorba64bigfoot1: not finished yet10:57
bigfoot1zorba64, huh?10:57
Mephist0StrikeForce: its ata10:57
Mephist0StrikeForce: i think its hda1.. ?10:57
StrikeForceok well did you try that command then?10:57
cHanTaL^^yuui10:57
matrixCould not open "Ownage pics simple.rar"10:57
matrixArchive type not supported. :s10:57
Mephist0StrikeForce: im typing.. hold on :)10:57
zorba64bigfoot1: to install a .bin file you need to sudo sh RealPlayer10GOLD.bin10:57
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matrixdo i have to reboot after i install packages ?10:58
moyogomatrix: in general no10:58
StrikeForcematrix, shouldn't need to10:58
KnelixGot folding@home running. :-)10:58
pontno10:58
bigfoot1zorba64, first i do chmod, then i do sudo sh10:58
StrikeForceKnelix, good work :)10:58
zorba64bigfoot1: yes10:58
StrikeForcebigfoot1, no just type it as stated before10:58
matrixwell, i installed unrar and it still says it doesn't support my archive type10:58
StrikeForcezorba64, you don't need to10:58
deFryskmatrix, unrar-nofree ?10:59
Mephist0StrikeForce: it says "error 15: file not found"10:59
KnelixStrikeForce: On both my 1 Ghz G4 and my Sempron 2400+... which do you suppose is faster?10:59
matrixyep10:59
deFrysknonfree*10:59
Mat_25_did someone tried mozilla-firefox, 1.0.7? I cannot launch firefox anymore after having installed it : it seems to be a permissions problem?!10:59
StrikeForceMephist0, brb10:59
matrixyeah nonfree10:59
deFrysktoo bad then :s10:59
matrix:s10:59
pontmatrix, I use unrar from the console10:59
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zorba64StrikeForce: but it is handy if it is not executable10:59
bigfoot1zorba64, StrikeForce, is it "chmod a+x RealPlayer10GOLD.bin" (as from realplayer.com's instructions) or "chmod +x RealPlayer10GOLD.bin" ?11:00
pontmatrix, unrar-free e bla.rar11:00
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zorba64bigfoot1: either11:00
matrixthats how i unrar in console ?11:00
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bigfoot1zorba64, i get an error message: RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: cannot execute binary file11:00
Mephist0StrikeForce: ok.. when i type kernel / and press tab it says "possible files are: lost+found etc media cdrom var user........." and so on..11:00
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zorba64ok try sudo ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin11:00
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pontok, during the AMD64 ubuntu install im getting the following error, An error was returned while trying to install the initrd-tools package onto the target system Check /target/var/log/bootstrap.log for details...11:01
m0r0nIt s not worth to install RealPlayer on linux, it doesnt work11:01
bigfoot1zorba64, bingo!!!!!!11:01
deFryskreal player work fine here11:01
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ppcguyhey all11:02
brownie17bigfoot1, yeha i was havign some problems with realplayer too, it's crappy11:02
bigfoot1where's a good place to install it? it wants to install to home/jef/realplayer. but i don't want to have  a cluttered home folder.11:02
KnelixStrikeForce: Thanks for the link, btw. Will keep it handy and look at it with a clearer head tomorrow. :-)11:02
bigfoot1zorba64,  the above is for you.11:02
ppcguyhow do I reset my xserver config?11:02
bigfoot1brownie17, sorry to hear about your problems.11:02
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eamonnppcguy, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:03
zorba64bigfoot1: /opt/RealPlayer is a good place11:03
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pontcan you do a network install of ubuntu ?11:03
ppcguythx11:03
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eamonnppcguy, or xorg-xserver, I always forget.11:03
brownie17bigfoot1, no worries, she's all sorted now! :)11:03
bigfoot1zorba64, thanks. i wonder why realplayer's default install location was at home/jeff/realplayer.11:03
bigfoot1brownie17, good to hear. Actually i'm installing realplayer in hopes it can do what my 4 other players (xine, vlc, etc) cannot.11:04
m0r0nSorry, but I have to change to windowsxp to get realplayer startet11:04
brownie17hm.. what can they not do?11:04
bigfoot1play SMIL files.11:04
brownie17bigfoot1, because it might be that you just don't have the right plugins11:04
bigfoot1brownie17, try this http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil.php?passage=Luke+111:05
brownie17bigfoot1, yeah it is working. what is it!?11:05
fekmoin11:06
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brownie17bigfoot1, oohh. i see you are always a man of the book?11:06
bigfoot1what is what? the link is an audio file.11:06
brownie17bigfoot1, also*11:06
bigfoot1brownie17, yes.11:06
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bigfoot1brownie17, are you, too?11:06
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brownie17bigfoot1, i am not a devout follower as such, but i have read the bible, and i go to church sometimes11:07
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matrixok one more question b4 i leave, prolly already anwsered it but...11:07
matrixtypo's =] 11:07
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matrixhow do i run exe's again ?11:08
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Chousukematrix: with wine11:08
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Chousukeor if they're linux executables, ./exe11:08
matrixok where is wine and i just installed it11:08
bigfoot1brownie17, that book is my only sure guidebook in this world.11:08
brownie17can somebody help me?i want to find a program that wil shut the computer down at a certain time11:08
Chousukematrix: just type wine windows.exe11:08
brownie17bigfoot1, :)11:08
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bigfoot1brownie17, nice to meet you here.11:09
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brownie17bigfoot1, same11:09
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brownie17so what type of christianity are you?11:10
bigfoot1brownie17, when you tried that link i gave you, did you open up your audio program, or did you enter that url into your webbrowser?11:10
brownie17bigfoot1, i put that link into my web-browser, and it automatically played in real-player11:10
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bigfoot1gotcha.11:10
hussamI can't seem to get to archive.ubuntu.com 82.211.81.182 times out. what should I do?11:11
sam3773Hey all. How do i mount a hard drive so i can see it? Both my Windows drives (hda)(hdb1) arn't mounted11:11
cHanTaL^^hello!11:11
StrikeForceMephist0, what kernel do you have then?11:11
hussam82.211.81.151 still works11:11
[LethAL] !tell sam3773 about ntfs11:11
matrixok is that "wine (filename.exe)" or wine (dir, filename.exe)" ?11:11
bigfoot1I LOVE how I can control playback (fastforward, rewind, etc) on a streaming file with realplayer! I couldn't do these things with XINe, vlc, etc. I'm happy happy happy.!11:11
zorba64!ntfs11:12
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brownie17sam3773, there is a way you can set it up to mount automatically on startup11:12
bigfoot1brownie17, could you please tell me what browser you use.11:12
bigfoot1?11:12
matrix...?11:12
brownie17bigfoot1, fire-fox 1.0.7 i think11:12
Mephist0StrikeForce: did you see my /msg i typed for you?11:12
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StrikeForceMephist0, yeah11:12
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StrikeForceMephist0, type this kernel /boot and keep pushing tab and maybe it'll show you what kernel you have11:13
exaltedHi. How to change lock screen image?11:13
Mephist0StrikeForce: ok.. i dont know how to find out wich kernel i have though... but it must be the latest one provided for hoary..11:13
bigfoot1brownie17, could you please look at firefox's plugins menu/window and tell me the info you have there for smi/smil files. i need that info.11:13
sam3773Yeah just got the bot tell me about it :D Damn i love this guy, fixed a problem i had yesturday aswell, cheers.11:13
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Mephist0StrikeForce: ill try11:13
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StrikeForceMephist0, well that one I gave you was my latest one11:13
bigfoot1sam3773, whatcha talking about?11:13
Mephist0StrikeForce: YES11:13
user01hi11:13
Mephist0StrikeForce: it gives me different files here..11:14
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Mephist0StrikeForce: can i send it as a message to you?11:14
StrikeForceMephist0, well which one do you have?11:14
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StrikeForceMephist0, yeah go for it11:14
brownie17bigfoot1, im sorry, how do i find that information/11:14
KnelixG'night good Ubunto folk.11:14
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bigfoot1brownie17, i'm not sure. maybe under preferences.11:14
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eyequeuei suspect there's some series of piped commands that i'm just not seeing, but here's what i want to do (in console):11:15
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zorba64brownie17: about:plugins in firefox address11:15
sam3773Aggghhh damn internets gone again, it goes every 10 mins and no sites load, GAIM stops working and the only thing that works is IRC.11:15
brownie17zorba64, THANX11:16
eyequeuesearch for a string foo in /var/mail/username, but the catch is, it appears the mail itse;f is mime-encoded, so i need a mime-decode app (munpack?) to operate on /var/mail/username first ... no success yet though11:16
eyequeueany ideas?11:16
zorba64brownie17: np11:16
brownie17bigfoot1, i will save them to a .doc file and email it to you?11:16
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bigfoot1how can i change the default handler for opera? I want to change the SMI/SMIL handler from gedit to realplayer.11:16
bigfoot1brownie17, okay11:16
eyequeuemunpack /var/mail/username | grep foo hasn't done as expected (and yes i do know foo is mentioned in a mail, just mime-encoded11:17
zorba64brownie17: use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/11:17
eyequeue)11:17
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Mephist0StrikeForce: so shall i go for the vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-686 file?11:17
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zorba64bigfoot1: you will have to drill into opera's settings11:17
StrikeForceMephist0, if thats what you have yeah11:17
manukHi can anyone help me with a ps2 mouse please?11:17
bigfoot1zorba64, how do i do that?11:17
brownie17zorba64, rich text11:18
Mephist0StrikeForce: and after kernel is set?.. i do what?11:18
matrixnvm i found out how by myself ^_^11:18
zorba64bigfoot1: in the opera menus somewhere...have a look11:18
brownie17zorba64, actually, it might be understandable11:18
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StrikeForceMephist0, initrd          /initrd.img-2.6.10-5-68611:18
sam3773Anyone using a Dlink DSL-G604T?11:18
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bigfoot1zorba64, are you sure that's what i should do? An idea just came into my head. I thought I should go to Nautilus, right click a smil file, select properties, go to "Open With" tab, and there, i select my desired default application. what do you think.11:19
bigfoot1?11:19
Mephist0StrikeForce: grub> initrd /initrd   -> possible files are initrd initrd.img11:19
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Mephist0StrikeForce: i guess i go for "initrd /initrd.img" then?11:19
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Mephist0StrikeForce: sorry for beeing a pain in the ass ;)11:20
zorba64bigfoot1: if you intend to open it with nautilus sure...opera has its own settings11:20
bigfoot1zorba64,  i see.11:20
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Mephist0StrikeForce: when this is set? what do i do? just reboot again?11:20
manukAnyone can help me with ps2 mouse please?11:20
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StrikeForceMephist0, nope11:20
StrikeForceMephist0, just type boot11:20
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Mephist0StrikeForce: ok11:20
StrikeForceMephist0, did it work?11:21
zorba64bigfoot1: i dont have it, i am sure it in the settings under one of those menus11:21
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brownie17bigfoot1, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2486   the one about "helix" is the one you want11:21
Mephist0StrikeForce: woot.. something happend... but..11:21
bigfoot1brownie17, thank you!11:21
StrikeForceMephist0, but what?11:21
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Mephist0StrikeForce: it started to boot.. then a lot of text.. then the message "pivot_root: no such file or directory" [new line]  /sbin/init: 428: canot open dev/console: No such file [new line]  Kernel panic - not syncing: attemted to kill init!  [end] 11:22
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StrikeForceMephist0, what did you do to it?11:22
StrikeForceMephist0, an update wouldn't cause that?11:23
Mephist0StrikeForce: :(((11:23
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Mephist0StrikeForce: i did nothing else then the updates... i did not reboot between 2 updates... but i dont know if that is nessesary..11:23
sam3773Any ideas about turning IPv6 off? As Ubunut doesn't seem to have a /etc/modprobe.comf file11:23
Mephist0StrikeForce: system has been up for 40 days and been running perfect..11:23
StrikeForceMephist0, thats wierd11:24
StrikeForceMephist0, thats a major issue?11:24
StrikeForceMephist0, you might have to fix it with the cd11:24
Mephist0StrikeForce: yes.. thats weird... thing is .. i have 11000 gallery images on that machine... (my whole life).. heh.. :( (nervous)11:24
StrikeForceMephist0, see if you can log in using the cd11:24
eyequeueactually, if there's a gui means of finding the string foo in /var/mail/username, where the mails are mime-encoded, i'd like to hear that one too11:25
StrikeForceMephist0, you'll log in fine11:25
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Mephist0StrikeForce: i tried reboot again.. and came to the grub> again...11:25
StrikeForceMephist0, get a live cd and mount the hdd doing that11:25
Mephist0StrikeForce: ok.. i want to try to get the system up though.. i have made so much settings with apache2, php, gallery and so on..11:25
matrixok my other hdd does not have a *nix partition but, it has all my music on it how do i listen to it ? :|11:25
geoff_theFishanybody know what is the command to take a screenshot of current window from terminal11:25
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eyequeuematrix:  mount that partition, then point your music-playing app at it11:26
bob2matrix: /msg ubotu ntfs11:26
bob2geoff_theFish: import11:26
eyequeuematrix:  mount -t whatevertype /dev/where /mountpoint11:26
Mephist0StrikeForce: shall i try another kernel exept vmlinuz? .. what if i try /boot/initrd.img-2.6.10-5-686?11:27
matrixeh the system can't even see the hdd so, how can i mount it :|11:27
geoff_theFishbob2: i get command not found for that11:27
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eyequeuematrix:  can't see it?  what filesystem is on it?11:27
sam3773OK i have IRC working and GAIM.. But my browsers still won't connect to anything11:27
bob2geoff_theFish: install imagemagick11:27
matrixits ntfs11:27
geoff_theFishbob2: ok ta11:27
eyequeuematrix:  what bob2 said then11:28
matrixmount -t whatevertype /dev/where /mountpoint ?11:28
Mephist0StrikeForce: instead of using initrd /initrd.img  i used initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.10-5-686.. but the same fault.. cannot open dev/console...11:28
matrixrofl i need that in n00b terms11:28
bigfoot1I just installed realplayer 10. does this mean i can now get rid of vlc, xine, etc?11:29
bob2matrix: /msg ubotu ntfs11:29
eyequeuematrix:  here, in your irc client, type the following, without the quotes: "/msg uboto ntfs"11:29
bob2matrix: type that into your irc client and the bot will explain the rist11:29
BoneEwoe11:29
BoneEwow11:29
brownie17can anybody tell me how i can choose what program gets opened for what filetype!?!?!11:29
matrixO.o ok11:29
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bob2Mephist0: have you touched your grub config, compiled your own kernel or poked in /boot at all?11:29
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Mephist0bob2: no.. not at all..11:29
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BoneEwhat is the most stable relese that has everything11:30
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bob2BoneE: hoary11:30
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Mephist0bob2: all i did when this grub> prompt showed up before i did the kernel and initrd thing i did "setup (hd0)" command in grub> ...11:30
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eyequeueBoneE:  everything including bugs? ;)11:30
BoneEthat verison don't have w32codecs11:30
StrikeForceMephist0, yeah can you google that11:30
bob2BoneE: no version of ubuntu has w32codecs11:30
BoneEand opther things that i don't wanna realse11:30
StrikeForceMephist0, I don't know how to get around that11:30
matrixok bot no explain11:30
matrix:s11:31
bob2!tell matrix about ntfs11:31
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bob2matrix: yes, it did11:31
Mephist0StrikeForce: ok.. :(11:31
matrixo.O it did when u said that11:31
BoneEwell the 4.10 with apt-get i can get w32codecs11:31
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linnerwhat does o.O mean?11:32
bob2BoneE: yes, the same twith hoary and breezy11:32
emanuelezFrom the title: "Firefox problems? Stop using crappy backports" mmm... not a very useful one... any better suggestion?11:32
bob2linner: it's some creepy "emoticon"11:32
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matrixO.o means simply O11:32
bob2emanuelez: it's very useful11:32
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linneroh okay :)11:32
eyequeuelinner: eye/nose/eye, think iconic11:32
matrixlike saying O with ur mouth11:32
tudorhello everyone.11:32
bob2emanuelez: get rid of all the backports lines from your sources.list11:32
matrixso i say O.o11:32
BoneEbreezy fucked up my computer11:32
linnereyequeue, got it :)  thanks :)11:32
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Mephist0StrikeForce: google what? the fault message i get when i try to boot?11:32
BoneEto many bugz11:32
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tudorhas anyone managed to install the unicorn drivers? for the usb adsl modem?11:33
emanuelezbob2: those crappy backports are suggested in ubuntuguide... maybe somebody should change that?11:33
deFryskemanuelez, ubuntuguide should be taken down11:33
eyequeueemanuelez:  but ubuntuguide is not presently recommended11:33
bob2emanuelez: you'd need to talk to the ubuntuguide author11:33
BoneEhoary fucked up casuse of the backport11:33
bob2BoneE: did you report them?11:33
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bob2BoneE: also, language please11:33
BoneEeng11:33
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sam3773Does the version of Breezy that's out now (preview) have many bugs?11:34
Mephist0StrikeForce: check this out.. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5822111:34
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Mephist0bob2: check this out.. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5822111:34
BoneEto me yes11:34
brownie17bob2, hahahah he obviously doesn't realise he swore11:34
geoff_theFishbob2: import working fine now - how do i know the id of window i want?11:34
bob2sam3773: it has some issues, yes11:34
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deFrysksam3773, not to bad but it still can be a challenge at some times11:34
BoneEcasuse it messed up when it started after the insall11:34
bob2BoneE: if you encounter problems, you need to file bug reports11:34
bob2BoneE: or they will never be fixed11:34
eyequeuesam3773:  define "many" :)  yes, it's not ready for release yet, but it's also a ton better than a couple of months back when X broke each day11:34
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punkrockmcduckhi everybody11:34
bob2geoff_theFish: I just use -window and click11:34
sam3773Haha sounds like great fun. :D11:35
emanuelezactually ubutnuguide was in this channel title until a few time ago... i'm pretty confused about it11:35
eyequeuesam3773:  also, since it's unstable (dynamic) it can break something important at any moment, technically11:35
geoff_theFishbob2: i want to do it programmatically tho11:35
BoneEi filed all bugz11:35
bob2geoff_theFish: er, I mean "import output.png" and click11:35
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ohphrackuanybody using vlc media player11:35
ohphracku?11:35
Mephist0StrikeForce: more guys that has EXACTLY the same problems as me...11:35
punkrockmcducki'm having trouble with the upgrade of x-common. what do I need to do?11:35
bob2geoff_theFish: oh, then you need to enter the fun world of X programming11:35
eyequeuesam3773:  that said, i'm on it now without major complaints really11:35
bob2punkrockmcduck: don't upgrade until it's fixed on your local mirror11:35
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bob2emanuelez: yes, it's fine if you understand it11:36
BoneEwhat can i use to play vcd and dvd11:36
geoff_theFishbob2: oh dear sounds scary i want to do it from python11:36
bob2emanuelez: following it blindly will lead to issues, tho11:36
BoneEi mean verison11:36
punkrockmcduckthanks11:36
bob2BoneE: /msg ubotu restricted11:36
sam3773eyequeue: Heh, i'll just stick with Hoary for now and try and fix my IPv6 problem :P11:36
KungFuHamsterI've got a quick question: Will the Ubuntu install CD boot and install from a serial ATA optical drive?11:36
eyequeuesam3773:  wise choice :)11:36
bob2punkrockmcduck: (it's been fixed for people using arhcive,ubuntu.com)11:36
bob2KungFuHamster: probably, if your bios can boot it11:36
bob2geoff_theFish: it's possibly, try #python11:36
emanuelezok... commented the backport lines in my sources.list and update apt... still the problem is there11:36
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tudorhas anyone managed to install the unicorn drivers? for the usb adsl modem?11:37
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KungFuHamsterbob2: That's what I thought about Gentoo, Debian, Fedora, Knoppix and a lot of others, too. No luck.11:37
bob2emanuelez: and the full output of apt should be in #flood or pastebin11:37
bob2KungFuHamster: ?11:37
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KungFuHamsterbob2: None would boot from a sata DVD burner. The kernels they were using didn't haev support for them11:38
bob2KungFuHamster: but your BIOS does support booting from it?11:38
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bob2using "backports" for firefox is especially stupid11:38
emanuelezbob2: flooded11:39
bob2since 1.0.6 is in hoary-security, anyway11:39
KungFuHamsterThe BIOS will boot from it fine. The problem is that the kernels these install CDs are using don't have serial ATA optical drive support from them, so the DVD drive doesn't exist to them.11:39
linner!tell linner about backports11:39
eyequeuebob2:  will 1.0.7 be in security soon too?11:39
bob2emanuelez: when going from hoary to breezy?11:39
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bigfoot1opera has no memory leaks right?11:39
bob2KungFuHamster: so the kernel boots but the installer can't find the dvd?11:39
bigfoot1opera has no memory leaks, right?11:40
bob2bigfoot1: that's almost certainly false11:40
waichunhey is ubuntu supports aterm?11:40
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bob2waichun: it's included in the unsupported section of ubuntu11:40
bigfoot1bob2, i am using opera only because firefox has memory leaks.11:40
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emanuelezbob2: when breezy will be officially released i guess11:40
KungFuHamsterThe kernel boots up until it had to mount the root FS. Since it needs the drive to find what it needs to load into ram, it can't mount the root fs because it can't find what it needs to mount.11:40
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bob2emanuelez: you're getting that error when just upgrading against hoary, then?11:40
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bob2KungFuHamster: right11:40
emanuelezbob2: yup11:41
bob2KungFuHamster: you can file a bug on bugzilla.ubuntu.com asking for it to be supported11:41
waichunbob2 where can i see the list of unsupported software?11:41
bigfoot1fx is a lot better to use, but i started looking for some other browser when i heard of its memory leaks. and because i have a 3 year old pc, i can't afford memory leaks.11:41
emanuelezi tried to remove the old gnome-support package but it didn't work11:41
bob2waichun: it's...14 000-odd packages11:41
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bob2emanuelez: sudo dpkg --purge --force-depends mozilla-firefox mozilla-firefox-gnome-support ; sudo apt-get install -f ubuntu-desktop11:41
KungFuHamsterbob2: That's all well and dandy, but I'm trying to get Linux installed NOW, not after a dev finally decided to get around to fixing this one little problem one user is having11:41
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bob2KungFuHamster: okiedokie11:42
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bigfoot1is breezy released on 10/01?11:42
bob2bigfoot1: no11:42
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bob2bigfoot1: october 1311:42
brownie17bigfoot1, 13th oct11:42
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brownie17bob2, is that subject to spontaneous change? do you think it will change?11:43
bigfoot1i hope breezy can support my pocket pc. at the moment, i haven't exerted much effort into trying to get my pocket pc to sync with hoary hedgehog11:43
Tomcat_So far they have always kept the date I think.11:43
bob2brownie17: it could change if serious issues crop up11:43
emanuelezbob2: not working... mozilla-firefox-gnome-support is not installed11:43
bob2hoary was a day late, iirc11:43
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Tomcat_Well I'm on CET anyway, so Oct 13 can mean anything between Oct 12 and Oct 14 for me. ;)11:44
bob2emanuelez: sudo dpkg --purge firefox-gnome-support firefox ; sudo apt-get install -f ubuntu-desktop11:44
bob2I got it backwards, sorry11:44
marc_Mephist0, ?11:44
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marc_Mephist0, any luck11:44
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linnerbob2, you're always in here at night my time... where are you from?11:45
linneror rather early morning11:45
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sam3773Urm, trying to play music, loaded up my music and all i got was a list of "No plugin installed to handle a MP3 file"11:46
Mephist0marc_: no.. w8.. i have not read in the channel for a while.. there is a thread about this problem.. have you seen it? i posted in that thread now.. seems like more ppl have the problem: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=36849811:46
bob2linner: australia11:46
bob2sam3773: yes, that's in the faq. /msg ubotu restricted11:46
brownie17bob2,  aussie aussie aussie11:46
vbgunzI am using Breezy... Can someone help me troubleshoot why my Memory in System Monitor is at 88% in use... I've opened the monitor *but* do not see anything using all that memory under all processes... What could it be?11:46
linnerbob2, ahhhh... makes more sense11:46
eyequeuebob2:  odd, i'd never realized your location, heh11:46
marc_Mephist0, ok11:46
emanuelezbob2: that worked... after an apt-get install -f11:46
bob2brownie17: oi oi oi11:46
brownie17vbgunz, maybe you need to upgrade from your 22mhx processor11:46
bob2emanuelez: great11:46
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marc_soryr got disconencted and my other user is still there11:47
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vbgunz:P11:47
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bob2vbgunz: the kernel will use all the ram it can for disk cache, to speed thigns up11:47
Mephist0marc_: i guess you dont have any new ideas? :-/11:47
bob2vbgunz: if an application needs it, it will get it11:47
Mephist0marc_: now i finnished up reading the channel here..11:47
vbgunzso this is ok? 88% in use 61% cache11:47
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emanuelezso... is there any difference between backports and unsopported software?11:47
eyequeueemanuelez:  yes11:48
marc_Mephist0, got no idea11:48
kemikbackports is new versions of the "supported" software or whatever you like11:48
emanuelezeyequeue: is unsupported software better?11:48
bob2vbgunz: that's fine11:48
eyequeueemanuelez:  backports are things that are in a later release version, but are recompiled to work gsint the current stable version's libraries11:48
vbgunzthanks bob211:48
Jhairemanuelez: backports aren't officially supported11:48
bob2well11:48
Mephist0marc_: ok.. i guess i just have to wait for somone at the forum to post then :( .. my server will be down i guess.. heh.. :-/11:48
bob2they sort of allegedly are supported11:48
bob2but hte people who make them don't appear to be interested in helping11:49
eyequeueemanuelez:  unsupported are apps that are not in the official ubuntu, but are commonly desired, such as apps in debian11:49
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marc_Mephist0, either that or upgrade to breezy like I have :)11:49
mon2xf11:49
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mon2xhelp me beacuase11:49
Mephist0marc_: that is a sollution.. but what happens to my old system then? will i keep all my settings?11:49
eyequeueemanuelez:  so a team of Masters of the universe" basically made ubuntu-compatible versions11:49
marc_Mephist0, should do11:50
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marc_Mephist0, if you reinstall you won't11:50
marc_ Mephist0 unless its on a separate partition11:50
vbgunzanyone know how to hack the dictionary so to search once I am done typing? It seems to lag bad for some reason... i checked the preferences but didn't see any options "find on type, etc"...11:50
mon2xhow to install a yahoo messenger11:50
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Mephist0marc_: dang... then i need this to work.. heh.. i have made sooo many settings..11:50
eyequeueemanuelez:  "better" is always opinion, but i think many find unsupported (like "universe") to make them happy :)11:50
bob2mon2x: applications -> internet -> gaim11:50
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marc_Mephist0, I was going to say mount it using a live cd11:51
Mephist0marc_: i run a gallery for a lot of users.. i have 11000 picutres in that gallery.. quite high traffic too...11:51
vbgunzyup gaim is equivalent to yahoo messenger11:51
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mon2xsomebody respond11:51
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marc_Mephist0, mount the hdd and transfer it somehwere11:51
Mephist0marc_: yes.. but that wont help me get it up running again.. but that way i can maybe save whats on the hd anyway..11:51
bob2mon2x: please don't be annoying by ignoring the answers you get11:51
Mephist0marc_: yes..11:51
eyequeuemon2x:  two already ave ... gaim is yahoo plus other protocols as well :)11:51
marc_Mephist0, yeah thats all you can do if you need it urgently11:51
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vbgunzhey bob2, gaim does not support voip does it? I wanted to talk to a friend on MSN but didn't know how to initiate the combo11:51
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bob2vbgunz: no idea11:52
ohphrackugnomemeeting11:52
Mephist0marc_: if i reinstall i prolly use another hdd.. then i just plug this old one in and mount it and transfer all the stuff.. but there will still be a lot of work.. :-/11:52
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bob2vbgunz: I'd be using gnomemeeting for that sort of thing11:52
vbgunzthanks!11:52
marc_Mephist0, not really11:52
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Mephist0marc_: ill try to wait... :)11:52
linnerhas anyone used openSuSE?11:52
marc_Mephist0, ok just giving you options11:52
vbgunzI was thinking about skype...11:52
ohphrackuyes me11:52
Mephist0marc_: yes.. that is appreciated! :)11:52
ohphrackuon dual xeon11:52
Mephist0marc_: you said not really?11:52
linnerohphracku, you are?11:52
[zeno] hi2alla11:53
eyequeuevbgunz:  gnomemeeting uses an openprotocol, h323, skype is closed, proprietary11:53
linnerohphracku, are you using it now?11:53
linnerif so... pm me11:53
ohphrackuim not on that box now but yes im using the Super11:53
vbgunzok will then go for gnomemeeting11:53
vbgunzbut what do I tell Windows users to user so to talk with me?11:53
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ohphrackuSuper opensuse11:53
linnerohphracku, please PM me..  I have questions for you .....11:53
eyequeuevbgunz:  i'd always choose the open protocol, given a choice, and if both work for both people11:53
linneror may i pm you?11:53
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yonili've added a new user to my ubuntu system, but he doesn't have sound - how do i set it ?11:54
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ohphrackuyes you may11:54
eyequeuevbgunz:  don't quote me on this, but i think there's a *meeting that gnomemeeting is patterned after ... "netmeeting" maybe?11:54
linnerthank you11:54
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marc_Mephist0, notreally?11:54
vbgunzeyequeue: will windows netmeeting work with gnomemeeting?11:55
bob2yonil: add them to the audio group11:55
benukhey, i installed ubuntu with noapic, the amd64 copy doesnt detect my harddrive,  the i386 installs fine,  but hangs on the splash gnome screen11:55
eyequeuevbgunz:  a google search for "windows h323" probably tells the actual name11:55
marc_Mephist0, relating to getting it up and running11:55
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benukplease please please help11:55
eyequeuevbgunz:  sure, an open protocol means compatibility :)11:55
ohphrackuwhere are you? linner11:55
linnerohphracku, i'm there :)11:55
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ohphrackuk11:55
vbgunzit sort of sucks... I chat with buddies and family over msn... have a bunch too... I don't mid changing but sometimes migrating means to migrate others :P11:55
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bob2benuk: there's no need to be annoying by begging11:56
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vbgunzthanks eyequeue, I will look into it!11:56
yonilbob2, thanks i'll try11:56
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eyequeuevbgunz:  i hear you, especially if they're on something proprietary11:56
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bob2benuk: if the amd64 version fails to install on your amd64 machine, then you should file a bug on bugzilla.ubuntu.com11:56
Inf3ctedfxwhich one is better, emule or edonkey?11:56
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vbgunzI understand... Just read some really good articles about Linus that made me see it differently... am really appreciating it11:56
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StrikeForcebeauty back to normal11:57
vbgunzLinux* not Linus11:57
eyequeuevbgunz:  how long have you been on linux? ubuntu?11:57
vbgunzless than a month11:57
eyequeuevbgunz:  well welcome, it sounds like you're making good progress11:57
Inf3ctedfxwhich do you recommend emule or edonkey?11:57
kemikvbgunz:  got link to the interview/articles ?11:58
brownie17Inf3ctedfx, both based on the same thing, both use same network, but use aMule, because there is more support for it in here than edonkey, (i think)11:58
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vbgunzhey eyequeue... just curious... I see sometimes people address me through IRC... how do you do that?11:58
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vbgunzI have a few links11:58
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vbgunzone sec, will show you...11:58
rejdenvbgunz, adress?11:58
cevizogluvbgunz, do you mean /msg  ?11:58
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rejdencevizoglu, i bet he means query :)11:58
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vbgunzlike do you manually type rejden: name: or do you click on my name or something and then type?11:58
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eyequeuevbgunz:  as in when i begin a line with "vbgunz" like this one?  or when it's private just to you (as /msg vbgunz whatever)11:58
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vbgunzfinding those articles11:59
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eyequeuevbgunz:  i type vb then hit tab, and my client auto-completes you nick :)  some do, some don't11:59
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Mephist0StrikeForce: i gonna leave now.. but i posted the problem in a thread.. and more ppl seems to have the problem.. thanks for takeing the time to help me! i found others that have the same problem now.. so we might get to a sollution.. thx!11:59
rejdenvbgunz, oh i'm using irssi irc client and he do that with TAB word completition11:59
linnerohphracku, where are you?11:59
ohphrackuhere11:59
linnerdid you get my messages?11:59
StrikeForceMephist0, good luck11:59
vbgunzthis was by far the most interesting article I read up on Linux... I read the whole page a little while ago... Really made me appreciate Linux http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm12:00
ohphrackuyes i replied12:00
StrikeForceMephist0, glad to at least help out12:00
Mephist0StrikeForce: i might need it ;)12:00
linneryou did?12:00
ohphrackuyeah12:00
Mephist0StrikeForce: im happy you did.. thx! :)12:00
linneroh wow... i don't see the window12:00
linnerhmmm...12:00
matrixok where do progs install to cause i installed winrar don't know if it will work but i need to unrar these files -_-12:00
ohphrackuhehe12:00
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eyequeuevbgunz:  i type worth (&^%^ so auto-complete is good for me :) (works in the bash shell too, try it some time)12:00
linnerohphracku, will you join #ubuntu-offtopic?12:00
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linnerfor some reason i'm not getting your messages12:01
cevizoglumatrix, type "whereis unrar" or "which unrar" or "locate unrar | less"12:01
ohphrackuok12:01
linnert y12:01
linner:)12:01
kemikmatrix:  i think "unrar-nonfree" would be a good choice instead of winrar12:01
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StrikeForceMephist0, anytime12:01
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matrixwell, unrar won't open the archives -_-12:01
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kemikmatrix:  typically apps get installed in /bin /usr/bin /usl/local/bin or something12:01
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kemikmatrix:  unrar-nonfree will12:01
matrixnope12:01
matrixthats the one i installed12:01
vbgunzbash: syntax error near unexpected token `&'12:01
kemikhow are you using it ?12:01
matrixsays "archive type not supported"12:02
eyequeuematrix:  the unrar app itse;f should proably be installed to /usr/bin/unrar, but you don't need to know that, just type "unrar" at the command line and it should be in your path12:02
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kemikmatrix:  that's really weird.. i've opened all my .rar archives with unrar and i have alot fo those12:02
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matrixi double clicked on the archives12:02
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matrixand got that msg12:02
eyequeue"clicked"?  is unrar-nonfree a gui app too?12:03
ohphrackuwaiting! linner12:03
linnerohphracku, you must be invisible!12:03
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kemikmatrix:  use the CLI12:03
ohphracku:-)12:03
linnerI can't see you :)12:03
matrix<- lost12:03
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kemikmatrix:  command line12:03
ohphrackumy firewall maybe?12:03
eyequeuei think i hear the problem, heh12:03
linnerohphracku, maybe12:03
ohphrackuthats weird12:03
kemikmatrix:  starta a terminal, goto where the archive is located and type "unrar e archive.rar"12:03
ohphrackuoh my bad12:03
linnerlet me try just talking in #ubuntu-offtopic12:03
ohphrackuhold on12:03
eyequeuematrix:  "clicked"makes me think you're using a mouse, rather than typing a command line into a terminal screen12:04
linnerok12:04
vbgunzthis was another good read... through this forum posting I found the link to the "Linux is not Windows" page... It's called Anatomy of a well-intentioned Linux Troll http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5801712:04
matrixlol i am using the mouse -_-12:04
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vbgunzthose two articles opened my eyes and thinking a bit... nice12:04
vbgunzthanks!12:04
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kemikvbgunz:  think i read part of the "Linux is not windows" 'article'... didnt like it that much12:04
eyequeuematrix:  unless a package installs a gui app, it's very likely that it may install a commandline-(only) app :)12:04
matrixok did the cmd line and it says unable to extract12:05
kemikeyequeue:  yeah, but i *think* unrar is incorporated in file-roller12:05
kemikmatrix:  aight.. well my guess is that your .rar is broken or not a .rar archive at all12:05
matrix"cannot open"12:05
matrixum it works fine on windows :|12:06
matrixO.o forgot i'm not on windows12:06
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kemikmatrix:  do a "ls -lha" and see which filepermissions it has12:06
eyequeuekemik:  i checked "apt-cache show file-roller" but it doesn't mention it there at least12:06
vbgunzI've used Windows for over 10 years... To be honest, that article hit a good spot towards me because it made me realize I wasn't trying to try out Linux because it's Linux *but* because I personally am getting tired and wish to escape Windows...12:06
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kemikeyequeue:  well i can double click my .rar's since i installed unrar-nonfree and extract using the archive.manager/file-roller what its name is :)12:07
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vbgunzI do accept the fact Linux is not a replacement and that I have to learn... the same I did with Windows when I started way back when...12:07
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vbgunz;)12:07
eyequeuematrix:  assuming your archive is named "foo.rar" type this is a terminal:  "file foo.rar" (without quotes)12:07
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matrix"cannot open, no such file or directory"12:07
matrix-_-12:07
eyequeuekemik:  the "long description" may not mention it, but it may be configured to use it if present then?  ah yes, ... Suggests: lha, unrar, unzip, zip, rpm, arj12:08
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kemikeyequeue:  yup12:08
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kemikeyequeue:  it's just a nice gui.wrapper to those applications12:08
vbgunzone sec, brb12:08
eyequeuekemik:  show how often i use gui apps, heh12:08
kemiki use the cli alot12:09
kemikbut sometimes im in nautilus and then its more convenient to use the gui.app =)12:09
dalamaryeah it just works after unrar is installed from file-roller/gui12:09
eyequeuekemik:  yeah, ideal for someone nervous about cli, like many starting with ubuntu, i'll try to remember that12:09
sam3773Anyone know how to play MP3s in Ubuntu? Or where i can get the codec from?12:09
kemik!tell sam3773 about restricted12:09
kemik!tell sam3773 about mp312:09
matrixok well, bbl to bother u guys 6 am here -_- sleepy time for me12:10
eyequeuekemik:  it's really a matter of habits, if you learned with a mouse, you think of that first ... i'm just old, heh12:10
vbgunzCan someone create an Open With As right click menu item for Ubuntu?12:10
vbgunz"Open With As" Means open file "sources.list" with "gedit" as "root"12:11
kemikwell... i've gotten accustomed to the gui's ... my PC career started in Dos 5.0 or so, so im pretty happy on the CLI aswell ;)12:11
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kemikvbgunz:  yeah you can do that12:11
kemikvbgunz:  oh.. i assumed you meant in nautilus.. maybe you dont ?12:11
eyequeuekemik:  fluent in multiple countries is always better than in just one, heh12:12
vbgunzI mean achieve that affect in Nautilus ;)12:12
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[sdefresne] !tell [sdefresne]  about restricted12:12
vbgunzright click a file or folder anywhere > "Open With As..."12:12
vbgunzthats the next generation :D12:12
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Inf3ctedfxok ppl, I'm trying to access to my Slave Hdd, but I cannot find the way to access, this is my fstab:  /dev/hdb1       /media/slave    ntfs    nls=utf8,umask=0222 0       012:12
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vbgunzbrb12:13
Inf3ctedfxdo I have to add the number 1 after hdb? or not?12:13
xophErInf3ctedfx, yes12:13
kemikvbgunz:  just do right-click "open with other application" and enter a custom command in the bottom, like "gksudo gedit sources.list"12:13
eyequeueInf3ctedfx:  perhaps you really mean /dev/hdb0 ?  counting starts at 0, if that helps12:14
Cimmerianyou could try a cfdisk /dev/hdb to see what number to use, unless you know it's /dev/hdb1 of course...12:14
kemikeven tho that's an ugly way todo it ;)12:14
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Inf3ctedfxok I done that xophEr , but when I go to /media/slave and then I do an LS  it doesnt show me anything12:14
eyequeueInf3ctedfx:  hdb1 means the second partition on the second physical drive12:14
Inf3ctedfxu maybe right eyequeue12:14
Inf3ctedfxlet me try that one12:14
eyequeueInf3ctedfx:  whereas hdb0 means the first partition on the second physical drive12:14
kemikInf3ctedfx:  disregard all them and use "sudo fdisk -l"12:14
bigfoot1friends, lend me your eyes: how do i make the font size of all my menus in all my gui programs smaller? and how do i make the spacing tighter between each line?12:15
kemikeyequeue:  no, counting starts on 1, in grub it starts on 012:15
[LethAL] bigfoot1, System, Preferneces, fonts12:15
Inf3ctedfxok kemik12:15
Inf3ctedfxlet me show u on the #flood channel12:15
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r0dbigfoot1, your talking? :)12:15
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bigfoot1r0d, yes, i'm talking with my fingers12:16
eyequeueInf3ctedfx:  my bad sorry, kemik thanks12:16
Inf3ctedfxits ok12:16
Inf3ctedfxthx anyway12:16
ompaulInf3ctedfx, better to use paste.ubuntulinux.nl because if you can't do it, others can without the user having to go through the same steps several times :)12:17
xophErInf3ctedfx, and youve mounted it too right? :P12:17
Cimmerianif you change the font size in the font preferences for gnome (and kde if you use any kde/qt progs), you should have covered most of your programs12:17
Inf3ctedfxwell when I execute the "mount /dev/hdb1 /media/slave " it said is already mounted12:17
ompaulInf3ctedfx,  others can view without ... :)12:17
bigfoot1[LethAL] , thank you very macho.12:17
Cimmerianalso, i think changing the dpi settings would affect just about everything12:17
bigfoot1now how can i make the spacing between the stuff in application menus tighter?12:17
eyequeueInf3ctedfx:  type "sudo mount" without any arguments, and see if it's listed12:18
Inf3ctedfxok hold on let me c12:18
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Inf3ctedfxlook eyequeue :  inf3ctedfx@ubuntu:/etc$ sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /media/slave12:18
Inf3ctedfxinf3ctedfx@ubuntu:/etc$ cd /media/slave/12:18
Inf3ctedfxbash: cd: /media/slave/: Permission denied12:18
bigfoot1you know what system/preferences/fonts don't change the font sizes in opera. how can i change opera as well?12:18
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cyphaseanyone notice the recent redesigns of several tech-related websites?12:18
eyequeueInf3ctedfx:  type "sudo mount" ***without any arguments***, and see if it's listed12:19
kemikInf3ctedfx:  it's because it's mounted as root12:19
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r0deyequeue,  yea slashdot was one of em12:19
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sorush20guys I keep getting this error what should I do.. E: /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/var/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions.d/00classic', which is also in package firefox12:19
cyphaseand C|Net12:19
cyphaseand EWeek12:19
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Inf3ctedfxok let try that one eyequeue12:19
eyequeuer0d:  ?12:19
LokeDKIf I use loadkeys, will it set to permanent keymap? also after reboot?12:19
gnumbosorush20: me too12:19
r0deyequeue, slashdot.org posted that they made changes. w/ CSS12:20
r0dupgrading..12:20
Cimmerianbigfoot1: i think opera has it's own font settings in it's preferences, you could try looking through those12:20
cyphaser0d, i think you meant to message me..12:20
eyequeuer0d:  i think i missed the beginning of this conversation ... is my nick perhaps a failure of auto-complete?12:20
cyphaselol12:20
r0dlol12:20
eyequeuer0d:  i think i missed the beginning of this conversation ... is my nick perhaps a failure of brain-complete? ;)  (more my speed tonight)12:21
r0dcyphase, guess thats what i get be lazy12:21
[zeno] hi, i have a problem with the upgrade of Ubuntu: today i've tried to update system and i found 2 upgrades for firefox but, after the download of the packets, i have an error... broken pipe! Do you have a similar problem?12:21
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eyequeue[zeno] :  no such problem here, but i have a guess, does "df" show one of your drives is full?12:22
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r0deyequeue,  that and lack of sleep12:22
sam_Anyone know a way of getting Shockwave on Ubuntu without having to use an emulator?12:22
kemik!tell Inf3ctedfx about ntfs12:22
apsynchi, is there a shortcut to switch between empty desktops12:22
eyequeuer0d:  you've been watching me huh? ;)12:22
r0d:D12:23
[zeno] eyequeue: the hard disk is not full!12:23
eyequeueapsync:  if in gnome, you can click on one of those four boxes in the lower right corner12:23
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vbgunzkemik, that is exactly what I am doing now12:23
daejavuNeed some help with Java Runtime Enviourment ...12:23
apsyncso there is no keyboard key-combination shortcut?12:24
[zeno] eyequeue: the problem is that ubuntu tries to write a file and it can't12:24
eyequeueapsync:  with the keyboard, you can use alt-ctrl-rightarrow or leftarrow12:24
[zeno] it's strange12:24
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sam_Sooo No Shockwave support in Linux at all without an emulator?!12:24
kemikvbgunz:  ok =)12:24
daejavucan anyone help with Java Please ?12:24
paul_hello12:24
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r0danyone here a vmware user w/ xp?12:24
vbgunzI guess I have to accept that's how it's done ;)12:24
vbgunzI use vmware12:24
apsyncah cool, thanks12:24
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r0dvbgunz, for some odd reason my ubuntu hates the windows xp cd12:25
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kemikr0d:  that's just healthy ;)12:25
r0dthe cd rpm's go to 100,000,00 on my cdrom drive12:25
eyequeueapsync:  two things i use often, that one to switch desktops, and the same *without* the alt to switch between firefox tabs12:25
[zeno] eyequeue: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)12:25
vbgunzyou're using vmware onto of Ubuntu trying to install XP from cdrom?12:25
r0dits weird, if not funny12:25
r0dlol kemik im beginning to think so12:26
vbgunzworkstation 5?12:26
r0dyep12:26
eyequeuer0d:  is this before or after takeoff, heh12:26
kemikvbgunz:  there is a plugin for nautilus to fix better right-click menus12:26
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vbgunzcan you tell me?12:26
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kemikvbgunz:  but it looked to be a hassle to compile12:26
r0deyequeue, i hit the abort button before ignition12:26
bimberivbgunz: Just finished reading that LNW article - teriffic - thanks for pointing to it :)12:26
vbgunzahh man, I am not up to the compiling stage yet...12:26
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eyequeue[zeno] :  above that line, there is an error like that says what file it couldn't write12:27
eyequeueerror liNe12:27
vbgunzcool bimberi... you're new to Linux too?12:27
bimberivbgunz: no, a relatively old hand actually12:27
vbgunzwhether you're new or not... it is cool12:27
[zeno] eyequeue: files are: /var/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions.d/00classic12:27
kemikvbgunz:  saw an article about it on arstechnica .... cant find it now12:27
sam_Damn Macromedia :(12:27
[zeno] and /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/libmozgnome.so12:28
bimberivbgunz: but always on the lookout for good descriptions of what its about - because I get asked12:28
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vbgunzI remember before starting with Ubuntu I kept saying to myself "I need to get away from Windows" not actually realizing what I was saying when thinking switching to Linux would be easy or the answer... am trying though...12:28
eyequeue[zeno] :  that directory should exist, so i'm out of ideas, sorry12:28
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[zeno] ok, tnx eyequeue12:28
kemikvbgunz:  http://www.grumz.net/index.php?q=node/8  link to the project, link to the article: http://arstechnica.com/columns/linux/linux-20050907.ars/612:29
sorush20guys should I use xorg or xfree8612:29
vbgunzkemik: thanks!12:29
sam_Hmm i wonder..12:29
kemikvbgunz:  well windows is alot more userfriendly12:29
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brownie17kemik, and expensive :P12:29
eyequeuesorush20:  xorg (default in ubuntu)12:29
sam_!Tell sam_ about shockwave12:29
daejavudoes anyone has  J2RE installed ??12:30
sam_... Dumb bot.12:30
kemikbrownie17:  or illegal ;)12:30
ohphrackuuser friendl means the machine thinks for you12:30
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kemik!tell sam about shockwave12:30
kemikno luck )=12:30
sam_Hehe12:30
vbgunzkemik: user friendly was the discussion in that LNW article I linked to earlier... I believe it too12:30
sam_"i dunno what is Shockwave"12:30
r0dohphracku,  sounds more like a girlfriend to me12:30
brownie17kemik: tsk tsk, the ubuntu support channel does not support illegal warez!! :P. i know coz i got in trouble for it :P jhahahahahhaa12:30
ReZuthhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2474 <- Anybody have an idea how to fix that12:31
ohphrackui dont like the idea oh someone or somthing replacing my brain12:31
Inf3ctedfxok ppl, I'm try to mount my NTFS on ubuntu, someone here gave me a script to run, but to be honest, I don't know how to run that script  can anyone tell me?12:31
bimberiubotu shockwave is <reply> Unfortunately there is no shockwave available for Linux (unless you use wine).  Please lobby Macromedia!12:31
ubotubimberi: okay12:31
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kemikbrownie17:  i know, not saying you should warez it, just saying it's either expensive or illegal ;)12:31
eyequeueuserfriedly is also a geek-oriented comic strip online, heh12:31
vbgunzall I know about shockwave and why I can't get my wifey to switch over is no support for shockwave...12:31
brownie17kemik: yepp12:31
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kemikInf3ctedfx:  "sudo bash winmac_fstab"12:31
Inf3ctedfxok12:32
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eyequeueInf3ctedfx:  is the script is named, foo.sh, you might run it with "sh foo.sh"12:32
r0dohphracku,  well it takes a brain to dodge spyware and virus on windows:D12:32
ohphrackua big throbbing one12:32
sam_So why havn't Macromedia released a Shockwave for Linux?12:32
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nchow to install a webcam plz? I cant find a linux driver on the manufacturers website. help plz....12:32
eyequeuesam_:  because they have not received enough complaints from linux users?12:33
bimberisam_: no commercial reason to do so i guess12:33
vbgunzInf3ctedfx: sudo mkdir /media/windows12:33
vbgunzInf3ctedfx: sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=022212:33
vbgunzreplace hda1 with your Windows partition...12:33
brownie17kemik, why do you sometimes have to type bash before a command?12:33
sam_Hmm. S'pose, OK, all complaing. :D12:33
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Inf3ctedfxvbgunz: I already create a /media/slave  do u think is going to affect?12:33
eyequeuesam_:  why does a company do anything?  probably they don't think it's a public relations nightmare to NOT do it, heh12:33
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kemikbrownie17:  well it depends.. on a +x bashscript you can typ ./foo.sh12:34
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vbgunzoh... then replace /media/windows with /media/slave12:34
vbgunzthat should work12:34
brownie17kemik, ok12:34
eyequeuesam_:  think "firm, but polite" heh12:34
bigfoot1using x-chat: is there a way to pause transcribing?12:34
Inf3ctedfxvbgunz: where should I replace that? on the script?12:34
sam_eyequeue: I can't do polite. :(12:34
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dinershello12:34
irvinhow would i know if the kernel i have has support for my webcam12:35
vbgunzI do that from command line12:35
nchave you guyz use a webcam in ubuntu?12:35
dinershello12:35
irvini'm reading this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Spca5xx12:35
vbgunzInf3ctedfx: just start up the terminal and put that in...12:35
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Inf3ctedfxhow do u do that from command line? vbgunz ?12:35
frank_banyone else here has had an update problem today???12:35
vbgunzthat will only give you read only access12:35
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vbgunzare you on Breezy or Hoary?12:36
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sam_Hmmm i updated about 130mb last night.. But this is an old disk :D12:36
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eyequeuefrank_:  someone mentioned it12:36
vbgunzapplications > system tools > terminal12:36
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kemikInf3ctedfx:  i think you should use the script.... remove your fstab entry, do "sudo umount /dev/hdb1" and execute the script12:36
eyequeuefrank_:  apparently some mirror needs to be updated, but archive.ubuntu.com already has the needed files12:36
vbgunzor  applications > accessories > terminal12:36
frank_bI updated my computer, because the symbol apeared on the notify zone, now I can't use mozilla...12:37
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kemikInf3ctedfx:  it's really the simplest solution in most cases12:37
daejavudoes anyone has  J2RE installed ??12:37
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ncor any site woth webcam howto in ubuntu?12:37
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vbgunzonce the terminal is open start off and edit the commands I gave you where appropiate12:37
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manukI've a problem with a mouse. Anyone can help me please?12:38
picole12:38
sam_I can't do anything on Ubuntu.. Everytime i click Applications im wierdly drawn to the games section :D12:38
maradongmanuk: what is your problem?12:38
bimberifrank_b: I've observed people with that issue being pointed to http://cyphase.homelinux.com/blog/12:38
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bimberisam_: lol12:39
ohphrackuhelp = yes manuk12:39
vbgunzreplace hda1 with Windows partition "which could most likely be hda1 so leave as is..." and edit the /media/windows and replace with /media/slave12:39
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vbgunzInf3ctedfx: is the file system NTFS or something else?12:39
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vbgunzI assumed you had NTFS12:39
frank_bthanks bimberi12:39
bimberifrank_b: yw :)12:39
ncany site for webcam support for ubuntu?12:39
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bimberii hope it works (i've not done it)12:39
ompaul!tell nc about webcam12:39
manukI'VE A LAPTOP12:40
manukwith12:40
manuka touchpad and a simple Logitech mouse12:40
ompaulnc that message from ubotu might help12:40
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kemikvbgunz:  he's been down that road already... try the script instead12:40
manukps2 , not optical, not cordless12:40
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ompaulmanuk, please put it all on one line so that            it         is             easy           to follow12:40
manukok12:40
bimberiompaul: haha12:41
vbgunzoh12:41
linneroh crap......................................... this last install..... my 3rd for the night........... has crapped out AGAIN~12:41
gnubiei just replaced a network card. ubuntu can't find it. "eth0: error fetching interface information. device not found"12:41
Bateau_hey! i just run a dist-upgrade. and  i got this error. and now Firefox wont start :(12:41
gnubieit's a server install.12:41
vbgunzoh no12:41
vbgunzfirefox problem?12:41
manukI've a laptop with a touchpad and connected to the laptop there is a mouse Logitech, ps2, not optical, not cordless. The problem is that the touchpad works and the mouse no.12:42
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vbgunzBateau_: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=367285#post36728512:42
eyequeuegnubie:  two thoughts12:42
frank_bbimberi, by the way... what's the best alternative to mozilla that exists in the repositories... (sot that I can resolve my mozilla problem)?12:42
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shaoqihi. is it possible to edit a file on windows hdd from ubuntu environment?12:42
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Bateau_thanks vbgunz12:42
eyequeuegnubie:  first, do we know the hardware is good?12:42
vbgunz;)12:42
cyphaseBateau_, I wrote a post on that problem : http://cyphase.homelinux.com/blog12:42
gnubieyes, it's bnew.12:42
gnubiei think it is.12:42
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Bateau_vbgunz:  but as i said. firefox DONT work. and i dont have any other browsers12:42
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cyphaserank_b, probably epiphany12:42
vbgunzok12:42
eyequeuegnubie:  second, is the right kernel module being loaded12:42
vbgunzone sec12:42
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cyphasethat's what i use when i need to anyway12:43
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gnubiehow do i check for the module.12:43
frank_bthanks cyphase12:43
joachim_hi :)12:43
cyphasenp12:43
shaoqihi. is it possible to edit a file on windows hdd from ubuntu environment?12:43
joachim_I installed apache. should I remove it before installing apache2?12:43
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Seveasshaoqi, only if it's fat3212:43
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Seveasjoachim_, yes12:43
gnubieeyequeue, it's a totallly different card from the card it replaced.12:43
kemikfrank_b:  disable backports/extras , aptupdate, purge your aptcache mozilla* and reinstall mozilla-firefox12:43
shaoqiSeveas, if it's ntfs then it's not possible?12:43
cyphasejoachim_, it should do it automatically12:43
Seveasshaoqi, correct12:43
bimberifrank_b: i'm not sure (but it looks like someone else was more sure :) )12:43
Seveascyphase, no12:43
frank_byes, thanks anyway bimberi12:44
Seveasapache and apach2 can happily live together so they don't conflict12:44
Seveasbut it's pretty useless...12:44
benukhey, i installed ubuntu with noapic, the amd64 copy doesnt detect my harddrive,  the i386 installs fine,  but hangs on the splash gnome screen12:44
joachim_cyphase, I just marked apache2 in synaptic & it didn't give a conflict12:44
benukI posted a copy on the forum on my problem12:44
vbgunzBateau_: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/248712:44
vbgunzoh man my bad12:44
sam_Anyone recommend any games from Synaptic to download? :D12:44
eyequeuegnubie:  battery dying here, goota run sorry, someone can be specific but google for the model number and linux, and yes, i'll bet it's a driver issue, good luck12:44
vbgunzim sorry12:44
vbgunzone sec12:44
Bateau_lol :D12:44
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vbgunz $cd/var/cache/apt/archives12:44
vbgunz$sudodpkg-i--force-overwritemozilla-firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb12:44
vbgunz$sudodpkg-i--force-overwritemozilla-firefox-gnome-support_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb12:44
vbgunz$sudoapt-getremove--purgefirefoxfirefox-gnome-support12:44
gnubiealright, thanks12:44
shaoqiSeveas, i try to delete a folder on my desktop, but it says "i do not have permission to change it". how can i solve this?12:44
kemikfrank_b:  your aptcache is in /var/cache/apt ... remove the mozilla.debs so you download the new good ones12:45
Seveasshaoqi, don;t run things as root :)12:45
frank_bkemik, thanks... but I think I'll check that website first... I'm a newbie and I don't quite understand what you are saying..12:45
vbgunzBateau_: Can't guarentee anything... just saw people were having problems and this was a recommended fix that worked for most people12:45
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Seveasshaoqi, sudo chown -R $user:$user ~/Desktop12:45
wezzer!breezy12:45
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade12:45
kemik*gone*12:45
wezzeris breezy published yet?12:45
Seveasno12:45
Bateau_mkay. thanks vbgunz :)12:45
Seveasrelease date: oct 1312:45
vbgunzBateau_: Hope it works!12:45
linnerSeveas, tritium stayed up with me as long as he could... and I'm on the third install of the night.... first was a kernel issue, the second was a CD problem... and now I'm having X Server problems.... I have an ATI 200M.... can you please help me fix it so I don't have to go back to SuSE?12:46
Seveasin a few days Colony 5 will arive12:46
Bateau_yeah me to :D12:46
shaoqiSeveas, it's not possible to delete through gui?12:46
vbgunztell me if it does please, thanks!12:46
Seveaslinner, hoary or breezy?12:46
linnerbreezy12:46
Seveasshaoqi, yes, after that command...12:46
Seveaslinner, currently X is busted on breezy12:46
linnernow someone tells me12:46
vbgunzhello Seveas12:46
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sam_Any good platform games avaliable to download with Synaptic?12:47
linnerSeveas, what's the problem?  tritium told me to download it like 2 hours ago...12:47
Seveaslinner, x-common is conflicting with xfonts-base, it's a packaging error12:47
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linnerSeveas, ok............. i'll just reinstall suse again then12:47
wezzerwhat do you think, is it "good idea" to upgrade to breezy now?12:47
brownie17sam_, synaptic has zsnes, a snes emulator12:47
linner:(12:47
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sam_... It does?! Sweeeet! Cheers.12:48
frank_bkemik, I think I understand what you're saying now... I'll try that if the website doesn't give an answer, thanks12:48
brownie17wezzer, no, just wait because it isn't long now12:48
Seveaslinner, or try hoary, breezy is in development and not guaranteed to be stable12:48
linnerSeveas, should i no try to install until the official release?12:48
vbgunzI've been on Breezy for a bit now and no problems "I hope"12:48
joachim_how do I restart apache?12:48
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Seveaslinner, exactly12:48
wezzerbrownie17: okay12:48
linnerSeveas, i get the same problem12:48
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linnerSeveas, this is my 6th install12:48
shaoqiSeveas, what does the command "chown" do?12:48
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vbgunzapache -k restart12:48
brownie17where can i see some screenshots of Kubuntu in use??? anyone???12:48
Seveasshaoqi, it makes you owner of these fils12:48
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Dekkochown - Change owner12:48
[A] ndy80hi12:48
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=== ohphracku catch ya later gals, guys, and other alien life forms
shaoqiSeveas, so whenever i encounter any permssion access problem using gui, I can use that command to solve?12:49
vbgunzI haven't played with Apache on Linux but on Windows to restart it is "Apache -k restart"12:49
linnerSeveas, ok...........i'll just be patient then................ very sad.....................12:49
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linnerohphracku, thank you :)12:49
irvinwhereis apachectl12:49
[A] ndy80I've problems with this package when I do apt-get upgrade/dist-upgrade: x-common_1.08_all.deb, is it a known bug?12:49
ohphrackuyeah no prob12:49
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irvinvbgunz, apachectl12:49
vbgunzirvin: what is that?12:50
vbgunzI don't use apache on Ubuntu yet...12:50
irvinvbgunz, start, stop, restart apache on linux12:50
brownie17does anyone know where i can see some screenshots of KDE?12:50
linnerbrownie17, no........ i don't.........wish I could help... :(12:50
vbgunzgoogle > KDE screenshots12:50
vbgunzthanks irvin!12:51
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sam_brownie17: Can't see it in Games, what section is it under?12:51
linnerbrownie17, http://www.ppcnerds.org/modules.php?set_albumName=album14&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php12:51
linnertry that12:51
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Bateau_vbgunz: it kinda worked. but now i get this weird error in firefox. and i cant do anything :/12:52
manukAnyone can help me with a mouse problem, please?12:52
irvini need to recompile my kernel but i can't get the source using apt-get source linux-source-2.6.12.912:52
linnerbrownie17, is that what you were looking for?12:53
sam_Will the KDE games in synaptic work in Gnome? I assume they will.12:53
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vbgunzBateau_: can you see this page http://cyphase.homelinux.com/blog/ ?12:53
gnubiehelp please. how do i tell linux to redect a new network card replacement i made?12:53
Bateau_no :(12:53
vbgunzcopy the page text to your drive... damn...12:53
irvinis linux-source-2.6.12-9 same as linux-source-2.6.12 ?12:53
vbgunzwhat it is is the problem relates to the backports12:53
vbgunzyou probably have them open?12:54
brownie17sam_ sorry, fin what? i forgot what i told you12:54
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brownie17linner, legend12:54
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vbgunzI'll paste it to you Bateau_12:54
sam_brownie17: zsnes12:54
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cyphasein #flood12:54
Bateau_the error says: XML Parins Error: xml processing instruction not at start of ecternal entity Location: chrome://browser/content/browser.xul LIne Number1, Column 1: <command id="cmd_bm_newfolder"  oncommand="goDoCommand('cmd_bm_newfolde12:55
cyphasejust the important part12:55
brownie17sam_oh you go into syanptic, click search and type zsnes.12:55
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linnerbrownie17, what?12:55
joachim_apachectl gives bash: apachectl: command not found12:55
brownie17linner, you are a legend for gettign me that link12:55
linnerbrownie17, right on12:55
linner:)12:55
cyphaseor..12:55
linnerbrownie17, I'm old dude... don't forget that :)12:55
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Marxisti need a good kernel configuration guide but can't seem to find one on google for this distribution. Does anyone know where I might be able to find such a detailed guide.12:55
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Marxistso12:56
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sam_brownie17: I have, can't find anything, are you on Breezy or Hoary? Because we could have different repositorys.12:56
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brownie17linner, hahah, why did you say that!?12:56
vbgunzBateau_: not sure what the error is...12:56
linnercause i didn't know what the h3ll you meant :)12:56
brownie17sam_ i am on hoary with multiverse universe and backports enabled12:56
Marxistsorry, so far, i've tried to install my own kernel and it works, compile and everything but the result is always a kernel panic12:56
vbgunzBateau_: did you get the private message I sent you?12:57
Bateau_yeah12:57
Bateau_not all of it thou :P12:57
vbgunz?12:57
vbgunzok12:57
gerkinhi12:57
=== linner is out of here................ it's 4am my time..................... night ya'll :)
Bateau_but this other dud sent to me as well :)12:57
brownie17linner, why did you remind me of you age?12:57
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linnerbrownie17, never mind :)12:57
vbgunzBateau_: to me it looks like it all went through12:57
linnernight ya'll12:57
brownie17linner, okie, bye12:57
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sam_brownie17: Aha.. Im new and have no idea what that means :D12:58
vbgunzgood night linner112:58
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vbgunzholy cow... time has flown and I have played myself so good12:58
brownie17sam_, sorry, pm?12:58
vbgunzI need sleep now12:58
vbgunzdamn...12:58
brownie17sam_ (private message) i'll explain to you12:58
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rhedhi peps12:59
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vbgunzgood night or day all, I need a few minutes sleep before I get busy for the day!01:00
vbgunzhave fun and major thanks everyone!01:00
bimberisleep well :)01:00
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WebLOCHmornin all01:00
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roothi.01:01
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WebLOCHIve got the flava01:02
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WebLOCHAnd Ive got the rememdy01:02
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sktrdiewhen is VLC going to be working in Breezy01:05
sktrdie?01:06
WebLOCHWhen it says so.01:06
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WebLOCH!tell WebLOCH about msg01:06
WebLOCH!tell WebLOCH about alsa-source01:07
brownie17can someone who knows about KDE tell me if i is easy to install kde and gnome? and how to switch between the two? is it possible to use the "session menu" (at login screen) to choose whether to use kde or gnome?01:07
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WebLOCHahh damnit01:08
WebLOCHtime for a fresh, fresh install01:08
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freebase`anyone know how to get raid 0 working? i have abit ic7 max3 mobo and ntfs filesystem01:10
bimberibrownie17: To get KDE you can install the kubuntu-desktop package.  Then yes, just choose KDE from the sessions menu01:10
WebLOCHhmm anyone here familiar wit the alsa source?01:10
brownie17bimberi: so it won't remove Gnome?01:10
brownie17bimberi: how do i choose which one is the default?01:10
bimberibrownie17: nope :)01:10
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chavobrownie17, it will remember the last thing you logged into01:11
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bimberibrownie17: each time you log in using a different session you'll be asked if you want to change the default (in GDM anyway)01:11
sktrdiecan  I use debian repository of apt-get in ubuntu?01:11
brownie17bimberi, in synaptic there is a package caled KDE and a package called kubuntu-desktop, which one?01:12
bimberisktrdie: no01:12
bimberibrownie17: kubuntu-desktop01:12
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bimberibrownie17: it will install kde and a suite of kde apps01:12
sinnedbimberi, where would I put an .sh script that I could run from console by just typing in name.sh01:12
brownie17bimberi, how big is it? synaptic says it might take 1hour to download01:13
sktrdiebimberi: what do I do if I want to get VLC from another repository, because the one in breezy seems broken01:13
bimberisinned: /usr/local/bin01:13
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sktrdieI  always get the error of unmet depndencies01:13
dade`i installed hfsutils01:13
bimberibrownie17: very large01:13
dade`but i don't have01:13
dade`fsck.hfs01:13
dade`why ?01:13
WebLOCHdoes dpkg keep log files anywhere?01:13
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sinnedThanks bimberi01:13
brownie17bimberi, thanks01:13
gerkincan anyone tell me if the "Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy Badger) Colony CD 5" are final versions of "Breezy" or are they previews01:13
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Whistleri know this is the wrong place to ask but do anyone have motorola c650?01:14
bimberisktrdie: hm. I wouldn't install it from debian tho01:14
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bimberiyw sinned & brownie1701:14
sktrdiebimberi: what then01:14
freebase`anyone know how to get raid 0 working? i have abit ic7 max3 mobo and ntfs filesystem01:15
sam_I miss my music, damn ubuntus lack of MP3 support :(01:15
WebLOCHsam_,  whats up ?01:15
sam_WebLOCH, Ubuntu doesn't play MP3s.01:15
WebLOCHHoary or breezy?01:15
sam_Hoary.01:16
Tomcat_Ubuntu on a default install doesn't play MP3s.01:16
WebLOCHsam_, you can install the restricted formats01:16
gerkinsam...I'm playing mp3s?01:16
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Tomcat_But it's easily possible to get it.01:16
sktrdiebimberi: thinking abt what..01:16
Echelon-Hi have no problem at all playing mp3s01:16
bimberisktrdie: an answer to 'what then'01:16
sam_Oooo how?!01:16
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WebLOCHsam_, you know the ubuntu homepage?01:16
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Tomcat_Just install gstreamer0.8-mad package and all regular gnome apps have MP3 support-01:16
sam_Yeah01:16
sam_Cool01:17
Tomcat_sam_: You  need the multiverse repository enabled though.01:17
WebLOCHsam_, go there and goto the "wiki" tab, scroll down and you will see "User Documentation"01:17
sinnedbimberi, I tried install kubuntu-desktop and synaptic gave me this as an error "kubuntu-desktop:01:17
sinned Depends: amarok but it is not going to be installed"01:17
WebLOCHsam_, it has lots of useful info01:17
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sktrdiebimberi: VLC is really hard to install from source, and I don't think Im enough skilled for that...01:17
Tomcat_sam_: But, do what WebLOCH says. :)01:17
sktrdiebimberi: what do you sugest>01:17
sam_OK..01:17
sam_!Tell sam_ about MP301:17
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gerkinsam ... what is your hardware...x86 or x86_64?01:17
bimberisktrdie: rather than adding the debian repository, download the debfile and install it using "sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb"01:18
sam_x86.01:18
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gerkinI need to check, give me a mo...01:18
sktrdiebimberi: yea, but I will have to download also the depndencies .debs right?01:18
sktrdiebimberi: can you guide me in this process01:18
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sam_I tried adding that repository before and it still came up "Cannot find file" when i tried apt-geting them.01:19
sktrdiebimberi: i just really need to understand the first time, then it's fine01:19
bimberisktrdie: possibly, but hopefully not, it's the dependencies that are the worry01:19
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sktrdiebimberi: can you guide me?01:19
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bimberisktrdie: sure, pm ok?01:20
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larsrohdinHi, I get an error while trying to upgrade firefox. Now I cant use it at all. may I paste the error, its only a few rows01:21
bimberisktrdie: er, private message ok?01:21
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larsrohdinIt says /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb: is trying to overwrite "/var/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions.d/00classic" which is also in the package firefox01:21
BlankerHansmoin01:22
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anyhi01:22
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bimberilarsrohdin: I've observed people with that issue being pointed to http://cyphase.homelinux.com/blog/01:23
BlankerHanswieso luft mei DVD player nicht?01:23
WebLOCHAnyone on here have ANY experience with Alsa?01:23
deFrysk!de01:24
uboturumour has it, de is #ubuntu-de bitte.01:24
larsrohdinbimberi, ok but I cant view that without a webbrowser...01:24
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WebLOCHlarsrohdin,  you could always "wget" it then open it in an text editor0z!01:24
twoSharpI have 2 networkcards, and I want all applications to use eth1 and not eth0, how can i do this? is it possible to set a default ethernetcard?01:24
bimberilarsrohdin: instal epiphany01:24
cyphaseyea01:24
[LethAL] twoSharp, In system, administration, networking...01:25
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DekkoCan someone tell me why Adobe Helvetica font does not appear in Gnome 2.10 font selection dialog?01:25
cyphaseor i can paste you the imprtant bit01:25
twoSharp[LethAL]  network-admin? I'm in XFCE bnow, gnome crashed...01:25
bimbericyphase: is your irc client going "bing" a lot today? :)01:25
gerkinsam ....check out the section "Q: How to install Multimedia Codecs?" in the "Unofficial Ubuntu 5.04 Starter Guide" at http://www.ubuntuguide.org/01:25
benkong2!ubotu checkinstall01:26
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, checkinstall is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall01:26
[LethAL] twoSharp, I think so01:26
gerkincan anyone tell me if the "Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy Badger) Colony CD 5" are final versions of "Breezy" or are they previews?01:26
[LethAL] twoSharp, you can probably do it with the route as well01:26
brownie17is there a drag and drop way to create an audio cd from a heap of mp3's?01:26
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[LethAL] gerkin, Previews01:26
cyphasebimberi, i don't have a sound for it, but the channel button keeps turning blue :)01:26
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gerkin...ta01:26
bimbericyphase: :)01:26
deFryskgerkin, stable version is out on oct 1301:26
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twoSharp[LethAL] , Aahgh :) thanks alot, i found it.. i have seen it before, but didnt see it01:27
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brownie17is there a drag and drop way to create an audio cd from a heap of mp3's?01:27
[LethAL] twoSharp :)01:27
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gerkinsweet.........looking forward to it....thanks deFrysk01:27
eazel7hi ubuntu people01:27
deFryskbrownie17, try serpentine01:27
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gerkinhi eazel701:27
DekkoHow can one use Adobe Helvetica fonts with Gnome 2.10?01:28
eazel7somebody knows how to fix the plugin's sound in firefox? I'm using esound as sound daemon, but obviously "auto" doesn't works in /etc/mozilla-firefox/mozilla-firefoxrc01:28
[LethAL] Does anyone know why X won't start? It says it received a signal 1101:28
[LethAL] Dekko, By installing them?01:28
eazel7hi gerkin01:28
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locomortoHey, is there anyway to get a transfer speed information in a standered nautilus dialog?01:28
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sam_Woohoo, now have MP3 support, cheers :D01:29
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locomortoI'm also in breezy, and thank you for any help01:29
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Valois there any reason why after updating to kernel version 2.6.12-9 my boot and shutdown process is just a black screen?01:29
[LethAL] !tell Dekko about fonts01:29
Dekko[LethAL] , I have them installed but they just do not show up in font selection tool :/01:29
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[LethAL] Valo, It's probably on the wrong terminal01:29
eazel7Valo, perhaps a problem with the bootsplash01:29
[LethAL] vterminal*01:29
Valoive switched between them01:29
Valocould be bootsplash im on a laptop01:30
WebLOCHAnyone fancy giving me a hand?01:30
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eazel7Valo, try removing the splash/framebuffer whatever be in the boot parameters, perhaps it's just that01:30
Valook01:30
Valoill try it01:30
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giardanyone else having problems with the x-common conflict in breezy?01:30
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[LethAL] eazel7, that won't help shutdown01:30
DekkoOpera 8.5 uses non antialaiased Adobe Helvetica but I also want them in Gnome & Firefox.01:30
Valogiard, yes01:30
dylan_is it true that X can actually destroy your hardware?01:31
WebLOCHdylan_, no it is a myth01:31
eazel7[LethAL] , what you mean?01:31
WebLOCHdylan_, software can very very rarely damage hardware01:31
[LethAL] eazel7, USplash on shutdown? I haven't seen it01:31
WebLOCHdylan_, a graphical interface is probably unliklely01:31
locomortodylan_: ie only when your WebLOCH (j/k)01:31
eazel7[LethAL] , did he mentioned shutdown?01:31
WebLOCHAeeeeiiiieie!01:31
[LethAL] eazel7 yes01:31
WebLOCHlol01:31
WebLOCHIts true :901:31
eazel7[LethAL] , he also mentioned boot01:32
dylan_WebLOCH, one more question:  i just installed ubuntu and set /dev/hda2 as ReiserFS.....when i boot the OS complains aobut not being able to find an ext3 filesystem....why?  can i change it back to ext3?01:32
[LethAL] eazel7 I know ;)01:32
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locomortodylan_: mine does that too01:32
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locomortodylan_: I just ignore the message01:32
dylan_locomorto, is ReiserFS any better than ext3?01:32
WebLOCHdylan_, I assume it expects ext3 and that is why, you probably cant run ReiserFS on root01:32
locomortodylan_: Actually come to think of, i think breezy doesn't do that01:32
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locomortodylan_: Yes and no01:32
WebLOCHdylan_, I assume you can change it back, but dunno about how01:33
dylan_locomorto, why yes...why no?01:33
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locomortodylan_: Its better in some areas, worse in others01:33
[LethAL] Any ideas on my X problem anybody? (Fatal: received signal 11)01:33
eazel7[LethAL] , perhaps X drivers works fine so while X is running it's ok, but in boot/shutdown when he is not in X it's framebuffer driver doesn't works, things like that happend here, e.g. with the i81001:33
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brownie17WebLOCH, do file systems really make any difference at all to the user-end performance!?01:33
dylan_locomorto, i just want a decent filesystem that doesn't fragment01:33
locomortodylan_: But overall, I would prefer it over ext301:33
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[LethAL] eazel7 Good point01:33
sam_Waaaiit.. Rhythmbox now opens MP3s but gives me an error when i try to play them.01:33
locomortodylan_: neither of them do01:33
WebLOCHbrownie17, it depends on the FS and the user, in some cases it definately will01:33
WebLOCHsam_, rhythmbox is not gnome based?01:34
dylan_locomorto, a friend of mine claims that all FSes fragment.  why and how do they not?01:34
sam_WebLOCH: No idea, it came with Gnome and it's the only music player i have sooo :D01:34
locomortodylan_: Not to the point that a windows one does01:34
deFrysksam_, try gst-register-0.801:34
eazel7which are valid values for FIREFOX_DSP in /etc/mozilla-firefox/mozilla-firefoxrc?01:34
DekkoBeep Media Player is also good.01:35
WebLOCHdylan_, technically they will do, its based on the writing and removing of files as you probably know, and how any available space is used.  Someone said ext3 doesnt, I dont know why it wouldnt...01:35
dylan_locomorto, oh yeah i know that Windows FSes do01:35
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locomortodylan_: typically around 2-3% It only get higeher then that when the partition is almost/is full01:35
WebLOCHsam_, I like xmms,  "sudo apt-get install xmms"01:35
dylan_locomorto, thanks a lot! ;)01:35
locomortodylan_: np01:35
sam_WebLOCH, used to use that on SuSE :D May download, cheers.01:35
deFrysksam_, try gst-register-0.801:36
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eazel7dylan_, guh-nome01:37
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deFryskdylan_, have fum figuring it out ;p01:37
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Tomcat_Heh. :P01:37
dylan_lol01:37
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Valothat fixed it thanks eazel701:37
[LethAL] Yeah, I know it was guh-nome too01:37
Tomcat_Here in Germany everybody says "guh-nome", but then we say everything different anyway.01:37
[LethAL] thought*01:37
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eazel7Valo, no problem01:37
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brownie17sam_, i have tried all the popular music players, i honestly reckno rhythmbox is the best. the others are completely different though01:39
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WebLOCHI think i might go insane01:39
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deFrysksam_, the command gst-register-0.8 will register your plugin01:39
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WebLOCHsam_, if you install xmms, install gxmms aswell its the gnome panel-let for controlling it01:39
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brownie17i need my darn synaptic KDE download to finish so i can download k3b so i can make a cd for the long car trip tomorrow DAMNIT!!!!01:40
deFrysksam_, so just do that and try rhythmbox again01:40
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WebLOCHAnyone here got any idea about how to use alsa?01:40
Valobeep-media-player is alot better than xmms01:40
bigfoot1evi wanna keep xchat running, but i don't want to keep the text logging on for now. Is there an easy way to pause text logging?01:40
bigfoot1sorry. I wanna keep...01:40
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sam_None of those work, XMMS wont download in synaptic or apt-get for some reason and i used the gst-register-0.8 command but i still get "Can not open file for writing" "Could not pause playback" errors01:41
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crimsunWebLOCH: for what?01:42
deFrysksam_, that you should try another player like beep-media-player01:42
crimsunsam_: apt-cache policy xmms01:42
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WebLOCHcrimsun thank god you are here01:42
WebLOCHim trying to recompile alsa-source again01:42
WebLOCHI succeeded under 686 kernel01:42
WebLOCHbut ive just found out that 686-smp supports my dual core01:42
WebLOCHso im trying again :P01:43
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WebLOCHand its failing01:43
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sam_I have been havn't trouble with my internet connection on Ubuntu.. Maybe that's why i can't download.01:43
crimsundo you have linux-headers-$(uname -r) installed, presuming you're currently running -686-smp?01:43
sam_It just pauses at:01:43
sam_0% [Connecting to gb.archive.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0)] 01:43
WebLOCHyup and yup01:43
ubuntuhi sam01:43
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bimberibrownie17: you can just install k3b itself, it will bring in enough of the KDE libraries to run it from Gnome (or whatever)01:43
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crimsunWebLOCH: are you using Breezy or Hoary?01:43
WebLOCHits a confusing error... i will paste01:43
Valodowns like a dns issue sam_01:43
WebLOCHcrimsun, hoary01:43
Valosounds like*01:44
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eazel7here aptitude, even apt-get, pauses in Waiting for headers01:44
WebLOCHIt gets m ost of the way through the process but stops at...01:44
crimsunWebLOCH: use paste.ubuntulinux.nl01:44
WebLOCHdpkg-deb: package name has characters that aren't lowercase alphanums or `-+.'01:44
WebLOCHdh_builddeb: command returned error code 51201:44
WebLOCHmake: *** [binary-modules]  Error 101:44
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WebLOCHahh sorry01:44
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sam_Yeah, i usually fix it by putting a few ipv6 off commands in modprobe, but Ubuntu doesn't have modprobe. :(01:44
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crimsunWebLOCH: you need to remove /usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/ first, or at least run ''sudo debuild clean'' in that dir01:45
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WebLOCHhmm01:45
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[LethAL] Erg... joinspam again01:45
WebLOCHSays "debuild command not found"01:45
crimsunWebLOCH: do you have devscripts installed?01:46
WebLOCHI removed the dir instead01:46
WebLOCHNo idea whats installed01:46
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sam_It's because my Dlink DSL-G604T doesn't support ipv6.01:46
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dylan_why use Linux over Windows?01:46
WebLOCHit would seem that loading a new kernel does not always port everything as well as it should01:46
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WebLOCHcrimsun, Ive removed the directory, any other advice?01:46
Gizmosislinux is stable windows is unstable01:47
gnubiecan anyone help?01:47
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crimsunWebLOCH: you compiled alsa-source by hand. There's no reason it would be ported over to a new kernel.01:47
gnubiei cant detect my new network card.01:47
dylan_Gizmosis, will Linux always be virus/spyware free lke it is?01:47
gerkin...bye01:47
WebLOCHYeah I didnt mean that01:47
Gizmosiswht network card is it gnubie01:47
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[LethAL] Gizmosis, no, We all know why Linux crashes, but windows crashes are random and unfixable01:47
gnubieit's a dlink dfe528tx01:47
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sam_!Tell sam_ about ipv601:47
Gizmosisthas dylan_  and [LethAL] 01:48
sam_... Dumb bot.01:48
gnubieactually, its a working ubuntu installation. i just need to replace the card01:48
Gizmosisthas - thn01:48
Gizmosisx01:48
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crimsunWebLOCH: now you have to untar the source and rerun debuild binary_modules ....01:48
gnubieand let ubuntu use it01:48
dylan_Gizmosis, what is thas?01:48
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crimsunWebLOCH: rather, debian/rules binary_modules ....01:48
Gizmosisthanx..sorry01:48
gnubielspci shows i got two cards01:48
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Gizmosiswhat does Ifconfig show01:49
cyphasein Linux, it's "it crashed because when w, x, y and z are true, and you do a, it b's and goes into c"01:49
larsrohdincyphase, im back! It's working great now01:49
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[LethAL] Yup01:49
cyphasein Windows, it's "it crashed while i was moving the mouse"01:49
gnubieifconfig only shows eth101:49
WebLOCHcrimsun, you may have done it again01:49
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Gizmosisu need to setup eth001:49
WebLOCHbuggery01:49
cyphaselarsrohdin, great01:49
dylan_Will Linux always be virus-free?01:49
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cyphasedylan_, just about, yes01:49
gnubieif i type ifconfig eth0, i get eth0 error fetching interface information: device not found01:49
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WebLOCHcrimsun, got through that fine, but aplay still says no soundcards01:49
larsrohdincyphase, thanks for the help dude01:49
cyphasemaybe a few will come out01:50
Gizmosisas long as linux is ran by the whole community then yes01:50
cyphasenone will be wide spread i would think01:50
crimsunWebLOCH: well is there even a driver loaded?01:50
WebLOCHUnloading ALSA sound driver modules: (none loaded).01:50
WebLOCHReloading sound driver modules: (none to reload).01:50
WebLOCHhaha01:50
[LethAL] dylan_, Why are there AV packages packages inthe repos if there are no virii for it01:50
cyphasenot at all larrohdin01:50
WebLOCHnein01:50
cyphasehappy to help01:50
gnubiegizmosis, i don&t know how to set it up01:50
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crimsunWebLOCH: so load one01:50
cyphaselarsrohdin*01:50
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crimsunWebLOCH: lspci -v |grep -i audio01:50
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dylan_[LethAL] , so i guess im never safe01:50
WebLOCHyeah none listed01:50
cyphase[LethAL] , for the Windows users who don't know the server is running linux01:50
cyphase;)01:50
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[LethAL] dylan_, Who is?01:50
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dylan_[LethAL] , there arent any AV packages in the repos01:51
crimsunWebLOCH: which driver were you using before?01:51
cyphasemaybe not main..01:51
[LethAL] dylan_, Amavis and Clam01:51
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dylan_[LethAL] , so linux has in-the-wild viruses too?01:51
cyphaseno01:51
[LethAL] ^^01:51
cyphasenot noww anyway01:51
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Gizmosisye everything is in the wild01:51
cyphasenow*01:51
dylan_cyphase, does popularity diminish secuirty?01:52
WebLOCHsnd-azx01:52
cyphasedylan_, not at all01:52
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Gizmosisi think it fortifies it01:52
crimsunWebLOCH: load it01:52
dylan_Gizmosis, then why does MS say so?01:52
Gizmosisit just incourages incompatibily01:52
[LethAL] Can anyone help with my X problem? :-(01:52
cyphasedylan_, apache, which runs 70% of the world websites, gets hacked faaaaaar less then ISS, which runs about 23%01:52
cyphaseworlds*01:52
Gizmosiscos MS is trying to lean u to there OS01:52
cyphaseIIS*01:52
WebLOCHcrimsun, did already, xmms works but "aplay" didnt play a sound this tiume, just gave some output01:52
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dylan_cyphase, but i really dont have to run AV software on linux, do i?01:53
cyphaseno01:53
cyphaseunless it's a server01:53
dylan_cyphase, thank you so much!01:53
WebLOCHcrimsun, you are the mother****** man01:53
cyphaseand that's for the windows users who would access it01:53
Valoif your smart, you dont have to run AV on windows either01:53
Turricanwieso geht eingentlich make nicht unter dem terminal ?01:53
cyphaseValo, so true :)01:53
chavoonly if you're running a mail server01:53
[LethAL] !de01:53
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, de is #ubuntu-de bitte.01:53
cyphaseit's rally very easy01:53
dylan_cyphase, do we actually expect the Dapper Drake to be noticeably better than Windows even to Windows users?01:54
cyphaserouter, firefox, thunderbird, don't download stuff from suspicious sites..01:54
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cyphasedylan_, breezy will be01:54
cyphasedapper drake for sure01:54
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dylan_cyphase, will breezy have Beagle?01:54
deFryskyes01:54
cyphaseHoary is, but i know my computers01:54
cyphaseyea01:54
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dylan_sweetness01:55
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cyphaseHoary isn't quite ready for the mainstream in terms of usability01:55
cyphasebut breezy is a major improvement01:55
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cyphaseand dapper drake..01:55
cyphasei can only imagine01:55
dylan_cyphase, why does MS always bulk their software, they bloat it...why?01:55
Gizmosiscos it is always workin01:56
cyphasedylan_, because they have to have a reason for people to buy it01:56
dylan_cyphase, so if i have a 2.2ghz processor and 1gb ram....how long will i be able to run the latest linux?01:56
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gnubiehow am i supposed to load a module for a new NIC01:56
sam_Vista will be Microsofts downfall.01:56
cyphasedylan_, a loooong time01:56
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Gizmosislinux is harder to setup ...but i dont see no more setuping up in both os's01:56
crimsungnubie: modprobe01:56
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dylan_sam_, how will Vista be ms's downfall?01:57
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cyphasedylan_, linux is becoming faster and more efficinet all the time01:57
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Valodylan_, just because you have older harder doesnt mean you run older versions of linux01:57
[LethAL] Windows needs a rewrite01:57
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dylan_Valo, so if i have a pentium 1 laptop with 40mb of ram will i be able to run breezy well>?01:57
WebLOCH[LethAL] , windows is okay, its just not built on such solid design principles01:57
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Gizmosiscan u use Internet Explorer with wine01:57
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cyphase[LethAL] , Longhorn/Vista was supposed to be a rewrite01:57
cyphasebut we all know better01:57
WebLOCHGizmosis, yes you can01:57
cyphaseGizmosis, yes01:58
Gizmosiskewl01:58
joachim_index.shtml doesn't display for my web directory in apache201:58
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sam_dylan_, The specs required for Vista are huge, they recommend 2gb RAM for it. No one will be able to use it for a while because you need a Professional PC to run the home version :)01:58
dylan_lol01:58
[LethAL] lol01:58
dylan_2gb!?!?!01:58
Jhair2GB of RAM? That's insane01:58
joachim_but I see the line DirectoryIndex index.html index.htm index.shtml index.cgi index.php in httpd.conf01:58
cyphaseand vista extreme edition..01:58
cyphaselol01:58
Gizmosisi used VISTA01:58
WebLOCHsam_, amusing the the filesystem will be released separately !01:58
cyphaselol01:58
ValoBF2 needs 2gb of ram to run smoothly01:58
joachim_2gb??? sheesh, I have 1gb & that's for games01:58
cyphaseVISTA = Viruses Infections Spyware Trojans and Adware01:58
chavosam_,  you don't need 2 gigs of ram to run vista01:58
cyphaseold and lame, but..01:58
cyphase:)01:58
chavothat is a lie01:58
cyphasechavo, 'need', maybe not01:59
Gizmosisu do need 612 to run vista01:59
Gizmosis512 sorry01:59
sam_chavo, That's the official Microsoft press release for it. The minimal is 1gb.01:59
cyphasebut you can run xp on 12801:59
WebLOCHI ran the preview fine on a gig01:59
cyphaseits slow as hell, but you can01:59
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WebLOCHyou can run xp on 64 mb01:59
cyphaseyea01:59
chavosam_ link please01:59
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elvirolohi all01:59
cyphasethat's true01:59
Gizmosisi rememmber running win98 /nm all the time01:59
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WebLOCHI did once01:59
WebLOCHHow silly01:59
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cyphaseand now they have windows cluster edition in beta..02:00
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cyphaselol02:00
dylan_cyphase, will i be able to run breezy on a pentium 1 laptop with 40 mb of ram?02:00
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elviroloi use breezy, and my hp deskjet 710 C doesn't work (although it did with hoary), it is detected and configured but doesn't print jobs02:00
[LethAL] Windows clusters? Great, more zombies02:00
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cyphasedylan_, with a very basic desktop environment, and not many programs02:00
cyphaseyes02:00
chavosam_ ?02:00
cyphaseit's a slow computer :)02:00
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dylan_cyphase, what distro do you recommend for that machine?02:00
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elviroloideas anyone ?02:00
JhairMS claims 2GB of RAM for the 64bit version of vista: http://www.apcstart.com/teched/pivot/entry.php?id=602:01
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cyphasedylan_, ubuntu02:01
cyphasethat's all i use really02:01
Valodylan_, any distro, you just need a lightweight window manager or none at all02:01
dylan_cyphase, lol no really...i mean ubuntu is obviously not going to run well on that machine02:01
cyphaseit'll run fine02:01
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cyphasejust not with gnome02:01
gnubiecould anyone tell me how to tell linux to detect my new NIC?02:01
cyphaseno distro will run on that with gnome02:01
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dylan_cyphase, is KDE inefficient with memory02:01
catfoxhi all. i connect to the internet with a wired router - is the right device to make it wireless a bridge?02:01
chavoThat article says that it will work best with that02:02
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cyphasenot particularly, but it won't either02:02
chavothat is not the minimum02:02
cyphasewon't run i mean02:02
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elvirolook then, does anyone know how i can share files between the two ubuntu boxes on my wifi lan (NFS ?) ?02:02
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Valosetup samba shares02:02
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elvirolohow do i do that under kubuntu ?02:03
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dylan_cyphase, oooh....can i run Damn Small Linux?02:03
cyphasemaybe02:03
Valofollow/edit some of the examples in /etc/samba/smb.conf02:03
cyphasei couldn't say02:03
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Jhairchavo: folks normally want their software run smoothly, nobody wants to run an OS on bare minimum hardware (unless absolutely necessary)... anyway I don't use that vista crap, so I don't care02:03
cyphasenever tried it02:03
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sam_When Vista comes out i'm switching to Linux as my main OS.02:04
chavowell that's all fine and dandy but when people outright lie, that's just wrong02:04
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Gizmosisdoes ubuntu have  winex02:04
zorba64sam_: u mean it isn't now???02:04
catfoxhi all. i connect to the internet with a wired router - is the right device to make it wireless a bridge?02:05
dylan_chavo, is wine better in time than cedege?02:05
WebLOCHJhair, if you have good hardware it often goes to wste on linux02:05
Riddellelvirolo: easiest way it to install ssh server and get the files through sftp://02:05
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sam_zorba64: No, Xp is, only because i'm still getting used to Ubuntu :P E.G. my internet has huge problems and i can't play MP3s :D02:05
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chavodylan_, depends on what you're wanting to run I guess02:05
dylan_chavo, try Half Life02:05
Gizmosisgood harder is designed to run on linux/mac os x/winxp02:06
WebLOCHsam_, did you install gstreamer-mad ?02:06
Bateau_how can i change my computer name? in console02:06
[LethAL] sam_ sudo aptitude gstreamer0.8-mad02:06
chavodylan_, I play half life 202:06
dylan_k kool02:06
WebLOCHGizmosis, thats not the case, good hardware is designed to be sold to the larger market, which is Windows02:06
dylan_Is KDE bloated?02:06
dylan_is GNOME easier on memor02:06
chavowell not as much anymore02:06
dylan_y02:06
WebLOCHGizmosis, my motherboard is excellent, but none of its features are realised on linux yet02:06
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zorba64sam_: just pulling your chain old son...a bummer about your isp...my mp3s play fine02:06
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chavodylan_, they will both use all memory available to them02:07
sam_[LethAL] , that just brings up an error about a cow with super powers. :)02:07
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joseihi all02:07
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[LethAL] sam_ s/aptitude/apt-get install02:07
joseisome one from spain??02:07
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sam_Zorba64, Hehe it isn't my ISP, my router won't support ipv6 and i have no idea how to turn it off in ubuntu because it doesn't have modprobe :D02:08
neotrophy_Anyone tried the Composite extension with an nvidia card?02:08
lyzasl02:08
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[LethAL] neotrophy_ yes02:08
chavodylan_, do you use cedega?02:08
Gizmosisno but just doing my gfx drivers as we speak02:08
lucaasis it safe to update breexy yet?02:08
lyzhi02:08
lucaasbreezy*02:08
dylan_chavo, no02:08
cyphaselucaas, not if you have to ask02:08
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Gizmosisi can update all but one breezy component02:08
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chavoalright, just wondering02:08
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Bateau_how can i change my computer name in console?02:08
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dinershalo02:09
neotrophy_[LethAL] : How did it go?  I'm running breezy on an AND64 machine and it keeps freezing up on me02:09
chavoBateau_, edit /etc/hostname02:09
lucaascyphase, what do you mean?02:09
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Bateau_ah, oki thanks chavo :)02:09
GizmosisBateau_, >>>> sudo rm /* -rf NAMEOFCOMP02:09
cyphaselucaas, menaing if you have to ask the question, the answer is no02:09
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sam_[LethAL] , Can't apt-get anything till i fix my internet :D02:09
lucaascyphase,  ok :>02:09
cyphaseso no :)02:09
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lyzasl02:10
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cyphasecan someone traceroute 85.98.81.116 for me, see where you get to?02:10
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zorba64lyz: you lost mary??02:10
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karimhi02:12
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Bateau_cyphase: i go nowhere :x02:12
cyphase?02:13
cyphaseoh, lol02:13
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cyphaseok02:13
Bateau_izmM16-ankM160.ttnet.net.tr is the last one i get02:13
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bimbericyphase: stopped at "izmM160-ankM160.ttnet.net.tr (195.175.7.10)"02:14
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WebLOCHSomeone do me a favour and check a page im trying to host for me?02:15
cyphasei got to 192.168.12.90 after that02:15
cyphasesure02:15
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sam_Hmmm i think i know why, i deleted a load of things with the word "IPv6" in from the 'hosts' tab in networking.. I think that might of messed my apt-get up. :D02:15
karimis there a ubuntu ppc channel ?02:16
cyphaseWebLOCH, what's the page?02:16
WebLOCHhttp://82.34.95.143/testphp.php02:16
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cyphaseyep02:16
cyphaseloading02:16
WebLOCHWas smeg removed from the repositories?02:16
WebLOCHAhh cool02:16
WebLOCHtime to get a domain I feel02:16
cyphaselol02:17
cyphaseat least a dynamic one :)02:17
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dabaRWebLOCH: what repo are you looking for smeg in?02:17
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spolahmmm i want to build a fully functional computer using nothing but legos02:17
bimberikarim: there is - #ubuntu-ppc - but its very quiet02:17
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cyphasespola, good luck02:18
cyphasebe sure to send me a picture02:18
sam_Anyone using a Dlink DSL-G604T router?02:19
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karimbimberi, deadly quiet :)02:19
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WebLOCHdabaR, none specifically but it was there two days ago02:20
WebLOCHdabaR, now its not listed at all, i have the same repos set02:20
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joachim_I've tried making a link with the ln command, but the new file icon doesn't have the arrow emblem02:24
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cyphasejoachim_, not all icons theme put an arrow02:25
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cyphaseicon themes*02:25
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joachim_cycom, the other icons in the folder have arrows02:25
cyphasecycom, lol02:25
joachim_/etc/apache2/mods-enabled02:25
cyphasewell, i don't know02:25
joachim_are there 2 types of link?02:26
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cyphaseyes02:26
joachim_how do I make the other sort?02:26
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cyphasei don't know the command for it02:26
cyphaseit goes with the desktop environment02:26
Valoln -s will make symbolic links02:26
Valothey could be the kind you are after02:26
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cyphaseVista is a 64-bit re-spin of a 32-bit shell for a 16-bit extension to an 8-bit operating system designed for a 4-bit microprocessor by a 2-bit company that can't take 1-bit of competition.02:27
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Whistlerwhere can i find libmp3lame.so?02:27
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Whistlerany ideas?02:28
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cyphasesearch for it02:28
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bimberiWhistler: liblame-dev [multiverse] 02:29
cyphase/usr/lib02:29
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cyphaseWhistler, /usr/lib02:29
Whistlerthx02:31
cyphasenp02:31
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popeyother than "stop using crappy backports" and "wait until it's fixed" is there a fix to the problem today with firefox?02:31
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sam_Soo what's the name of the release planned for after Breezy? :D02:32
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bimberisam_: Dapper Drake02:32
chrissturmis there a marillat repo that works with breezy?02:32
x-perthey ppl02:32
chrissturmi am seraching for matroska tools02:32
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UtnapischtimHello, can anybody help me?02:33
sam_bimberi, Cool. I s'pose that's planned for 2006.02:33
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x-pertI am gay!!!!02:33
x-pertLOL02:33
x-pertkding02:33
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bimberisam_: yes, April I guess02:33
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UtnapischtimI have to unrar an archive with files which have chinese icons02:33
sam_bimberi, Cool, can't wait :D02:33
UtnapischtimBut it doesn't work02:33
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sam_Wierd02:35
UtnapischtimHow do I unpack an rar-archive, whose files contain chinese letters?02:35
sam_Mouse has just lost allll power.02:35
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decaf_someone please tell me the reason you banned 85.102.90.18302:35
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sam_Really, any reason why a mouse would suddenly lose power?02:36
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[LethAL] sam_: I take it it's not battery powered then ;)02:36
decaf_sam_: just check the cable02:36
[LethAL] sam_: Is it the only usb device?02:36
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sam_[LethAL] , Haha no, USB :D02:36
[LethAL] sam_: Other USB devices failed?02:36
sam_[LethAL] , Nope, the rest seem fine.02:37
[LethAL] sam_: Well, not usbcore then...02:37
sam_Urm02:37
decaf_is there a way to install breezy torough PPPoE02:37
sam_Beb restating :P02:37
sam_BRB*02:37
UtnapischtimHow do I unpack an rar-archive, whose files contain chinese letters?02:37
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[LethAL] decaf_: Yes, but since you asked, you shouldn't be doing it02:38
Gizmosisany clues why nvidia run prog..says i have no CC02:38
sam_Any keyboard shortcuts to open the menu? The windows key doesn't work in linux :D02:38
Valoalt f1 does i believe02:38
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zorba64Gizmosis: try installing build-essential02:38
UtnapischtimHELP! How do I unpack an rar-archive in Ubuntu, whose files contain chinese letters?02:38
jonoUtnapischtim: has try unrar program?02:38
UtnapischtimI already tried unrar02:38
joaospintohey ppl! when i connect to a smb server02:38
decaf_Utnapischtim: install the package 'unrar-nonfree'02:38
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UtnapischtimBut it doesn't work02:39
joaospintoi dont have permissions to go to all the folders02:39
Utnapischtimokay02:39
joaospintosmb server no, Windows XP Server02:39
Gizmosisjoaospinto,  u wont do02:39
[LethAL] Utnapischtim: Tried both unrar-free and unrar-nonfree?02:39
UtnapischtimNo02:39
joaospintohow can i connect to Doccuments and Settings for ex.02:39
joaospinto??02:39
UtnapischtimOnly the first one02:39
[LethAL] Enable multiverse if you haven't allready and try the latter02:39
Gizmosislog on to the share as Administrator02:40
ValoDocuments and settings isnt shareable. Its a windows setting02:40
decaf_someone please tell me the reason you banned 85.102.90.18302:40
chavojoaospinto, you can only see what you have permission to see02:40
joaospintohow can i change the windows setting?02:40
Valoyou cant02:40
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Valoyou can share folders inside thou02:40
joaospintolol02:40
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joaospintobut i cant share the doccuments and settings?02:40
Valoyou can share it, but you cant access it02:40
Valosame with program files02:40
joaospintobut look, i shared the doccuments and settings folder separatly02:40
Valoand the windows dir02:41
joaospintoand it asked me for the usear02:41
joaospintopassword02:41
joaospintoand domain02:41
joaospintowhat shall i write there?02:41
Gizmosisignore the DOMAIN02:41
joaospintoyeh02:41
Gizmosisusername Administrator02:41
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Gizmosispassword = blank 9/10 times02:41
chavoyou can share your docs folder if you move it to a different location02:41
joaospintobut look i have the windows portuguese version02:41
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joaospintomustnt i write it like it is? (Administrador)02:41
Gizmosisthen do there corresponding names02:41
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Fleischwurstkennt hier jemand turbo pascal ?02:42
joaospintook02:42
joaospintothanks dwd :D:D02:42
joaospintoin password i write nothing?02:42
Gizmosisye u do02:42
Gizmosistry nothing02:42
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sam3773Muuuch better.02:42
Gizmosisif not just make an admin accpunt02:42
sam3773It was alt+F1, cheers. :D02:42
UtnapischtimOkay, it seems to work02:42
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brunodoes anyone have the problem with the firefox upgrade ?02:43
Valonp sam377302:43
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Valomy firefox is fine and i updated it today bruno02:43
brunoi updated today02:43
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brunoand have a probelm02:43
UtnapischtimYes, it works! Thank you, guys!02:43
brunoproblem02:43
cyphasebruno, my blog has a fix02:44
sam3773What's the update? The backport thing?02:44
cyphasehttp://cyphase.homelinux.com02:44
brunosam3773, i think yes02:44
cyphaseyea02:44
sam3773bruno, need to update i spose :D02:44
UtnapischtimBye!02:44
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brunocyphase, how am i supose to open your blog ?02:45
Valoinstall opera02:45
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Valoor some other browser02:45
Gizmosisits incomplete site02:45
Gizmosisbaaha02:45
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Gizmosiswhat a backport02:45
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jimmy_neutronhi02:46
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jimmy_neutronthe gnome-theme-manager isn't working right,... can i add the themes "by-hand" too?02:46
cyphasebruno, epiphany02:47
Guadiana_Jonesopera is not  open code02:47
DAVEFSD02:47
DAVEHI02:47
cyphaseor i can post the important part02:47
DAVETO ALLL02:47
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sam3773Damn sinaptic and apt-get won't connect. Don't suppose someone can give me the address' in the 'host' tab of networking please. I deleted them earlier by mistake :D02:47
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DAVE MZTA NA KAU02:47
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pc22hey dave02:47
brunocyphase, how did you fixed ?02:47
DAVEHI02:47
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DAVEPC2202:47
eruindoes anyone know what the "changelog" window that comes up on every upgrade in synaptic is?02:47
DAVEMZTA02:47
kemikcyphase:  would you not need to disable backports in sources apt-get update and *tehn* reintsll mozilla ?02:47
cyphaseno02:47
cyphaseyou don't need to disable it02:48
DAVEELLOW PO TO ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111102:48
athlonto copy over my bookmarks to another profile, I can simply copy bookmarks.html. But how do I copy / backup the cookies, histories and saved passwords  ?02:48
athlonmis !02:48
athlonshould be on #firefox :-)02:48
kemikwhy is there a problem to upgrade from the start then?02:48
occyhow can I get it so that synaptic (and other apps run as root) use my users gtk settings?02:48
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cyphasebecause backports named their package firefox instead of mozilla-sirefox02:48
kemikahh i c02:49
cyphaseand they also added a package called mozilla-firefox that depends on firefox02:49
Gizmosiswhy cant i run progs as root....it says password not working02:49
cyphaseso it got stuck in a loop02:49
kemikyup02:49
Gizmosisi can SU02:49
cyphasethey should never have created 'firefox'02:49
cyphasejust use mozilla-firefox02:49
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kemikyeah i understand02:49
cyphasek02:49
cyphase:)02:49
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cyphaseanyone interested in working on the default homepage for ubuntu?02:50
Gizmosisi am cyphase02:50
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sam3773Well.. Back to Windows i go.02:50
brownie17i relaly wuickyl need help, i am trying to use k3b to burn a music cd, and it got halfway through the cd and said "could not unlock drive"02:50
Gizmosisi got vatious skillys02:50
kemiksam3773:  why?02:50
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cyphasenooooooooooooooooooooooo02:50
sam3773Hahaha!02:50
brownie17cyphase, i cna write a bit of html, and i have many hours :)02:51
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Gizmosisi have 24/7 hours free02:51
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brownie17i really quickyl need help, i am trying to use k3b to burn a music cd, and it got halfway through the cd and said "could not unlock drive"02:51
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sam3773kemik, Because i need to find out the probably with my internet on here. Synaptic and apt-get wont download so i'm gonna search the web... That and i need my music :D02:51
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kemiksam3773:  the music would just be mounting the partition with music on i guess02:52
Gizmosissam...u on the net with it02:52
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sam3773I am.02:52
kemiksam3773:  and if youre on the net with ubuntu right now, then you'll have an easier time debugging apt from here02:52
Gizmosisok and u say synap wont download form ftp/http sites02:52
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sam3773Not since i deleted some hosts. :P02:52
Gizmosisoh02:52
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brownie17k3b won't burn a cd!!!! it tellms me cannot unlcok drive!02:53
kemiksam3773:  deleted hosts from where? sources.list ?02:53
Gizmosisthought u just had a first install02:53
sam3773the Networking tool, kemik.02:53
kemikbrownie17:  settle down, we all heard you earlier :)02:53
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Gizmosisi just had that prob....had to update-manager in SU02:53
Gizmosisadn that sorted it out02:53
brownie17kemik, i am panicking sorry. do you know how to help me?02:53
sam3773I deleted the ones with IPv6 in them in an attempt to stop my internet disconnecting every 10 mins.02:53
Gizmosisbrownie17...is it still burning02:53
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brownie17Gizmosis, no, it won't even start burining before it does it now02:54
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Gizmosisok have u unmount the DEVICE02:54
kemiksam3773:  im not famiiar with "the networking tool" i usually use ifconfig and other non.gui apps ...02:54
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brownie17Gizmosis, why would i want to unmount it?02:54
sam3773kemik, ah this is in the GUI.02:55
Gizmosisanyone know the xf86config alternative02:55
kemiksam3773:  isit system->prefs->networking ?02:55
jimmy_neutronthe gnome-theme-manager isn't working right,... can i add the themes "by-hand" too?02:55
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zorba64xorgconfig02:55
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Gizmosisthanx02:55
brownie17Gizmosis, why would i want to unmount it?02:55
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Gizmosiscosu say it is locked02:55
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Gizmosissomething has nicked it02:55
sam3773Kemik: Yeah, the hosts tab.02:55
kemiksam3773:  aight i knowhere it is now02:56
sam3773Kemik: Deleted them all except localhost :)02:56
kemikyou deleted *all* of them ?02:56
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kemikoh02:56
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_jasonhey, how do you guys keep your folders organized in Ubuntu?02:56
chavojimmy_neutron, just untar themes in ~/.themes02:57
sam3773It's because my router cant handle IPv6, and because Ubuntu has no modprobe.conf i deleted all ipv6 things i can find, and i think all the ones in hosts had ipv6 int he name.02:57
bigfoot1any opera users here?02:57
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_jasonis there a web page that tell's you what different folder's functions are?02:57
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Airkhi. how to change the PATH inside GNOME?02:57
Gizmosisu router only have to use ip402:57
brownie17Gizmosis, hoq do i unmount it>02:58
kemiksam3773:  paste your /etc/hosts file on pastebin02:58
Gizmosislinux uses ip6--ip4 tunnelings02:58
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kemiksam3773:  and also /etc/network/interfaces02:58
brownie17who knows how to change resolution in KDE>?02:58
Gizmosisumount /dev/device02:58
sam3773OK, Kemik.02:58
[LethAL] brownie17, In the Control Cent[er/re] 02:59
Gizmosisbrownie02:59
Gizmosisxorgconfig02:59
brownie17[LethAL] , where in the control center?02:59
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sam3773is it pastes.ubuntu.com?03:00
[LethAL] Under peripherals03:00
Gizmosiswheres the control panel03:00
Gizmosisi dont have it03:00
sam3773Ahhh03:00
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sam3773Can't connect to any sites now, this internet thing winds me up03:00
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_jason!tell sam3773 about pastebin03:00
brownie17[LethAL] , it is up really high but all the text is really big03:00
[LethAL] brownie17, change the fonts03:00
Gizmosischange fonts03:00
Cute_Mhuqelow03:00
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DarkMaulhai guys03:01
DarkMaulcould someone give me a few awnsers03:01
brownie17[LethAL] , how do i open a terminal in kde?03:01
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[LethAL] Run Konsole03:01
Pickle_Weaselyay! \o/03:01
jamey3DarkMaul, ask the questions03:01
kemiksam3773:  join #flood and paste it ther03:01
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Pickle_Weaselsome asshole got my ISP banned and i haven't been able to get in for like a week now =\03:01
[LethAL] Hehe03:01
DarkMaulis Ubuntu suitable for Desktop work03:02
Pickle_Weaselbut now i can chat it up with ubotu in PM again ^.^03:02
bigfoot1if you are using opera, please raise your hand.03:02
jamey3DarkMaul, what kind of desktop work?03:02
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joachim_gah the ubuntu wiki is so slow!03:02
brownie17Gizmosis, bash: unmount: command not found03:02
Gizmosisraises hand03:02
Gizmosisumount sorry03:02
[LethAL] Admittedly on Windows atm, but I do use it on Ubuntu as well03:02
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jamey3is the new version without ads much better?03:02
brownie17joachim_, didnt they just change server?03:02
jamey3DarkMaul, what kind of desktop work?03:02
DarkMauluhmm03:02
[LethAL] jamey3, there's only one difference03:03
jamey3[LethAL] , what's that?03:03
DarkMaulA few games witch i know they work on linux03:03
[LethAL] jamey3, guess03:03
DarkMaulfurther more03:03
brownie17Gizmosis, umount: /dev/hdd is not mounted (according to mtab)03:03
jamey3[LethAL] , no ads? :)03:03
DarkMaulnewsgroups with binairies03:03
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DarkMauland FTP03:03
jamey3lol03:03
bigfoot1[LethAL] , hi there, again. Um, I can't see the embedded video in webpages such as http://www.unleadedjokes.com/html/Fear-Factor.html. can you?03:03
jamey3DarkMaul, are you saying these things *do* work on linux or what?03:03
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DarkMaulthe last 2 things where not working properly bout 3 months ago03:04
bigfoot1Gizmosis, can you see the above embedded video?03:04
[LethAL] bigfoot1, I don't know much about video, sorry03:04
DarkMaulthe last two things didnt work properly03:04
jamey3DarkMaul, well if the binaries are for win32 then obviously they won't work on linux03:04
[LethAL] Have you tried downloading it?03:04
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bigfoot1[LethAL] , but does that webpage view fine on your opera?03:04
[LethAL] bigfoot1, yes, but I have WMP03:04
jamey3DarkMaul, you can mount FTP 'shares' on the desktop with GNOME03:04
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brownie17ah stuff it. i can't make anything just work in linux03:04
xcowhi03:04
jamey3brownie17, what like?03:04
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jamey3xcow, hi03:05
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bigfoot1[LethAL] ,  what's wmp?03:05
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bigfoot1Winamp?03:05
Gizmosisbrownie17 start from start03:05
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bigfoot1Gizmosis, ccan you do me a favor?03:05
jamey3dd03:05
brownie17Gizmosis, what do you mean?03:05
[LethAL] Windowns (bloated) Media Player03:05
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bigfoot1[LethAL] , you have WMP on your ubuntu?03:05
xcowhow can i install mono?03:05
jamey3haha that'd be pointless03:05
[LethAL] bigfoot1, No, pay attention03:05
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Gizmosisyes03:06
bigfoot1Gizmosis, yes to me?03:06
Gizmosisand sorry forgotten brownie what i said03:06
Gizmosisyes03:06
jamey3brownie17, what problem(s) are you having?03:06
brownie17jamey3, when i try to use k3b it tells me cannot unlock drive03:06
bigfoot1okay, Gizmosis: in opera, please go to http://www.unleadedjokes.com/html/Fear-Factor.html. It should contain an embedded video. can you see it?03:06
jamey3right have you tried graveman?03:06
Cute_Mhuqelow03:06
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bigfoot1[LethAL] , okay, i'm trying to pay attention. What am i missing?03:07
jamey3brownie17, install "graveman" in synaptic03:07
Gizmosisumount /dev/scd003:07
brownie17jamey3, what is gravman?03:07
Gizmosisor umount /dev/hdc03:07
jamey3brownie17, it's similar to k3b, but imo better03:08
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Gizmosisumount /media/cdrom03:08
Gizmosisyes i almost see it03:08
decaf_[LethAL] : I downloaded breezy iso. I dont have a floppy or cdrw. my connection is with a really old adsl modem. can I use PPPoE while installing ?03:08
Gizmosisi know the problem03:08
brownie17jamey3, what imo03:08
Gizmosisi can rip the movie if u like03:08
jamey3"in my opinion"03:08
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jamey3Gizmosis, are you talking to brownie17?03:08
Gizmosisye03:08
jamey3cool lol03:08
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jamey3brownie17, you listening? ;)03:09
Gizmosistrying to make a smoke03:09
brownie17jamey3, to what? im downloading graveman now03:09
jamey3umount /media/cdrom, right, Gizmosis?03:09
Gizmosisso late in replying03:09
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Gizmosisyes03:09
Gizmosisthat should unlock the drive03:09
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bigfoot1Gizmosis, whenever you have time...03:09
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brownie17Gizmosis, jamey3 umount: /dev/hdd is not mounted (according to mtab)03:09
jamey3brownie17, graveman is still better imo so i'd startup graveman and unmount your drive as Gizmosis said03:10
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Gizmosisunless there a ps aux | grep k3b03:10
jamey3brownie17, no umount /media/cdrom03:10
Gizmosisbig foot03:10
Gizmosisu need to associate that type with ur xmms player03:10
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brownie17Gizmosis, jamey3 umount: /dev/hdd is not mounted (according to mtab)03:11
Gizmosisbrownie i made same mistake...u must do /media03:11
Gizmosisit use to be /mnt/cdrom03:11
Gizmosisnow it is /media/?????03:11
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brownie17yes i type "umount /media/cdrom"03:12
jamey3Gizmosis and brownie17, yeah it's /media/cdrom03:12
brunolimayeah03:12
brownie17i am trying ti with graveman now03:12
brunolimafirefox 1.7 :)03:12
brownie17would a restart fix it?03:12
bigfoot1gizmosis? you busy now?03:12
Gizmosisok u have to telinit 203:12
Gizmosisas su03:12
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brownie17giz ok03:13
Gizmosisand then telinit back up to xwindows03:13
Gizmosisbigfoot no03:13
Gizmosisgot smoke in mouth03:13
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brownie17i give up03:13
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bigfoot1Gizmosis, my fellow opera, I can't view embedded video on webpages. can you?03:13
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gooWhere can I find php5 packages for hoary?03:14
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brunolimawhen Gnome 2.12 is going to be avaible ?03:14
bigfoot1HashHeadZ, I'm guessing i gotta change some settings in opera... but what exactly i must do, i'm not sure.03:14
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gizmosiscant change nicks03:15
goobrunolima: it is available.. in Breey preview03:15
joachim_how do I find out what owner is used by apache2?03:15
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jonobrunolima: 13yh october03:15
Valopackages for streaming video might help bigfoot103:15
goojoachim_: ps aux | grep apache203:15
gizmosisyes valo03:15
gizmosisthat is the key03:15
bigfoot1Valo, i do have them. my problem is that my browser (opera) is not connecting the video to the proper player.03:16
joachim_thanks goo03:16
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jskhi everyone03:17
WebLOCHoooh yeah03:17
WebLOCHi gots the smp goodness03:17
[LethAL] Nice03:17
Valohmmm thats a problem bigfoot1, thats the end of my ideas, sorry i dont use opera03:17
WebLOCHYeah seeing as it works now haha!03:17
WebLOCHmy boot menu is gonna be stacked03:17
[LethAL] I wish my X worked :(03:17
WebLOCHgrub! come hither!03:17
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jamey3[LethAL] , why what's up with your X?03:17
WebLOCHWHATS UP WITH IT ?03:17
jski am having 2 fat partions and i have configured it in fstab03:17
WebLOCHsorry for caps03:17
[LethAL] Says it received a signal 1103:18
[LethAL] From what, I'd like to know03:18
jskmy problem is everytime when i reboot the system i have to re mount03:18
jskthe file system to get the write properties how can i make it while the system boots03:19
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[LethAL] jsk, edit /etc/fstab as root03:19
jskok03:19
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[LethAL] And use man fstab at the same time ;)03:19
TMMso, hello03:19
TMM;003:19
jamey3[LethAL] , have you checked: http://www.google.com/search?q=signal+1103:20
TMMbreezy is pretty nifty, but I can't shake the feeling that the boottime has increased a whole lot03:20
jskLethal: ya i have opened it03:20
WizzoWhere's a good place to get Ubuntu repositories?03:20
TMMit 'feels' like its booting twice as slow, and I think it is03:20
jamey3is there a way to quickly decrease the boot time of ubuntu?03:20
[LethAL] !tell Wizzo about repos03:20
TMMaccording to my stopwatch anyway03:20
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WizzoThanks.03:20
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TMM!tell TMM about repos03:20
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WizzoI think ubuntu makes up for the boot time with the nifter graphics now.03:21
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neotrophy_Bloody proprietary crap!  I just found out that nvidia have a working fix for the problem that I'm having with Composite.  But it's not going to be released until the next version, along with a whole heap of stuff for configurations that mean absolutely nothing to me :-@03:21
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[LethAL] neotrophy_ What is the problme?03:21
neotrophy_I run KDE and it freezes on the splash screen if I enable Composite03:22
jskhi can anyone help me to solve my problem03:22
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[LethAL] neotrophy_, did you install xcompmgr?03:23
apokryphosneotrophy_: nothing to do with KDE, all to do with the bug in Xorg's RenderAccel03:23
ifrHi, question about vmware: I installed it and now want to uninstall. Anyone know if the kernel patches will be un-installed as I uninstall the software?03:23
neotrophy_With nvidia's render accel, actually.  But it's completely unusable with RenderAccel off03:24
TMMfuck 3D, just use the NV driver, there RenderAccel does work :)03:24
ifrOr must I do something additional to remove the kernel patches03:24
TMMor utah-glx's nvidia driver :P03:24
jroeshmm, what are considered "crappy backports"?  or does that mean all backports?03:25
neotrophy_TMM... Actaully, I might just try that.  I don't really need #D ATM03:25
neotrophy_hmmm03:25
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WizzoI was told to look at BUM before. But I can't find a .deb file for it on the site and apt-get doesn't have it in the list.03:26
WizzoDoes anyone know where to get it?03:26
brunolimahey guys how can ai set up a small linux domain network ?03:26
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Airkhi again. how to change the PATH inside GNOME?03:28
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LinuxJonesGood Morning everybody03:29
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cyphaseis gstreamer eventually going to support all the formats vlc/xine/mplayer support?03:29
robbiedoes it support any yet ?03:30
Ngcyphase: it mostly does already03:30
cyphasewell, yea03:30
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robbiei havent found anything it will play03:30
cyphasebut there are still a few things03:30
robbieam i missing something ?03:30
cyphaselike .mov sound03:30
cyphasevlc plays that, but not video03:30
cyphasegstreamer plays video, but no sound03:30
Airkrobbie : try to install w32codecs and totem-xine03:30
robbieyeah i know about toem-xine and w32codecs03:31
Ngcyphase: yeah, they are filling in the gaps with each release03:31
jamey3robbie, and why don't they work?03:31
robbieits jus ti like so many default ubuntu things i dont like changing them03:31
Ngcyphase: most distros are still on 0.8, 0.9 is out now and 0.10 should be by the end of the year03:31
cyphasecool03:31
TMMrobbie, a good recepy is installing "mplayer-nogui win32codecs totem-xine and gstreamer0.8-plugins" if you have enabled hoary-extras03:31
TMMrobbie, that'll allow you to play about 99% of all media files out there03:32
cyphaseimagine ubuntu in 2 years..03:32
robbieok03:32
robbiei like it now03:32
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cyphaseZigzag Zebra or something03:32
cyphase;)03:32
robbiejust set up a companies management on it using ltsp03:32
cyphasecool03:32
robbiethey love it03:32
cyphaseme too03:32
robbiesound owkred on the temrinals out of the box03:32
cyphasebut it can always be better03:33
TMMltsp is great03:33
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Ged4s_linuxaican i have windows ant linux ubuntu at the same time?03:33
les_i just updated firefox and thunderbird and the update broke both; neither one will start up. what's the solution?03:33
cyphaseyes03:33
cyphaseles_, i have a blog post about it03:33
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WebLOCHGed4s_linuxai, its called Dual-boot03:33
Airkhow to change the PATH inside GNOME? (i want to add java sdk path)03:33
cyphaseles_, do you have another browser installed?03:33
les_no03:33
Ged4s_linuxaime?03:33
robbiebugger03:33
cyphaseles_, i'll pm you03:33
robbieneed newer debs of mythtv03:33
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robbiefor hoary03:34
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WebLOCHGed4s_linuxai, yeah thats how you use linux and ubuntu on the same computer03:34
LinuxJonesGed4s_linuxai, if you have windows already installed free up about 10 gigs of space and you can install Ubuntu along side windows.03:34
gizmosissorry guyz reading email03:34
Ngbe nice when machine virtualisation lets you run both OSes concurrently03:34
willcHey!  Anyone running Breezy using the "server" option to install?  I think I've found a bug and need someone to double check!03:34
gizmosisi use linux then windows on top03:34
les_cyphase, i have a browser installed on another system03:34
Ged4s_linuxailinuxjones thanx03:34
LinuxJonesrobbie, Breezy is quite stable at the moment03:34
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cyphaseles_, just do it through pm03:35
cyphaseit's very easy03:35
les_whats pm03:35
robbieLinuxJones: yeah, thats what i used on the ltsp install03:35
robbiethey on track for next release?03:35
cyphaseles_, what chat client are you using?03:35
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Ged4s_linuxaiit is dificult for me to anderstand how linux work, i use them first time :)03:35
les_x-chat03:35
cyphaselook at the bottom03:35
cyphaseyou should see a button with my name on it03:36
bubblesis there any alt+f2-like combo in gnome?03:36
cyphaseyes03:36
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cyphaseles_, did you find it?03:36
EndEffectGood morning everyone...  I have a display resolution question...03:36
gizmosisok fire it EndEffect03:36
les_cyphas, got it thanks03:37
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bubblescyphase: was that yes for me?03:37
cyphaseyes03:37
cyphase;)03:37
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robbiecrikeys i hope this works03:37
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bubblesok, what do i have to press?03:37
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gizmosisu say u have a prob03:37
gizmosiswhat is it03:37
gizmosisEndEffect,03:37
cyphaseAlt+F203:37
EndEffectI just finished installing Ubuntu into a microsoft virtual machine.  For some reason the default resolution jumped to 1600x600x8 even though I only had chosed 10x7 down...03:37
bubbleshm... doesn't seem to work :\03:37
cyphasewhat do you want it to do?03:38
bubblesis there any combo to kill the x-server?03:38
jamey3you can do ctrl+alt+backspace to restart it lol03:38
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RWG(((((((((( Hello RWG ))))))))))03:38
cyphasebubbles, you want a tty?03:38
bubblesi installed a gtk-theme and after the reboot there is no desktop,...03:38
gizmosisjust delete /etc/X11/xconf ???? in there03:38
EndEffectI cant get to the menu option to adjust the resolution.  Is there a program I can run, or an option to change it on boot up?03:38
LinuxJonesrobbie, yea Oct 13th03:38
robbieyay03:38
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benkong2is there a way i can reconfigure apache2 using dpkg to get my Apache2.pm?03:39
EndEffectAnyone?03:40
bubbleshttp://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=15963 <-- this was the theme, are there any known problems with this theme?03:40
holycowi don't know much about apache, but typically its dpkg-reconfigure packagename ... unless your looking for arguments for the command to do something special which i don't know03:40
robbiei used a unique way of transfering from debian to ubuntu03:40
robbieqemu :)03:40
cyphaseEndEffect, if it's in a VM, it could be the VM itself03:40
robbiemigrating even03:41
cyphasemaybe it's misrepresenting itself03:41
cyphaselol03:41
robbieheh03:41
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elad`What do you guys use to watch movies?03:41
cyphasevlc03:41
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robbiemythtv03:41
Ngtotem :)03:41
EndEffectWell, is there a program name I could run that would bring up the change resolution box?03:41
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apokryphos!players03:42
ubotuI guess players is Audio/MP3 Players: amaroK, Beep-media-player, JuK, Rhythmbox, XMMS ; Video players: Totem, Xine, Mplayer, VLC03:42
LinuxJoneselad`, totem-xine03:42
robbiepress f03:42
elad`Totem sucks - going to full screen takes time.03:42
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cyphaseEndEffect, System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution03:42
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Ngelad`: all of the media players suck in some respect03:42
robbieits amazing howpretty the fonts are03:42
benkong2holycow; thanks i get a no info when I use that command03:42
robbieanyone remember when they were buck ugly03:42
cyphasevlc is very good03:42
elad`Windows Media Player was perfect in all regards...03:42
cyphasefor movies anyway03:42
XenguyIs there a URL like packages.debian.org where I can just browse/search packages, and manually download gnumeric?03:42
cyphasesimple interface03:43
cyphasedouble click to fullscreen03:43
NgXenguy: packages.ubuntu.com :)03:43
holycowbenkong2, you haveto use sudo with it03:43
elad`I can't find Mplayer in synaptic.03:43
benkong2oops03:43
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XenguyNg: thanks (was trying ...ubuntulinux.org :-)03:43
cyphasesupports dumping to the network, multiple file formats, a screen, and any combination03:43
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bubblesis there any way to change the default-theme "by hand"?03:43
benkong2holycow; this is the command I used sudo dpkg-reconfigure Apache03:43
benkong2203:43
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holycowyou got it right, you need to get the name of the package right too03:44
holycowi have no idea what the package name is proper03:44
EndEffectSon of a gun. it IS VM that is nailing it to some weird resolution...  Sorry for the stupid question.  Now I have to debug VM...  Ugh.03:44
derek[] :)03:44
benkong2ok03:44
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derek[] I am very happy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!03:44
cyphasegood luck EndEffect03:44
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cyphaseyour gonna need it03:44
EndEffectThanks for all the help!!!03:44
cyphase:)03:44
derek[] I got the ubuntu CDs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))03:44
cyphaselol03:44
eruin"stat failed" - what does that mean?03:45
derek[] Thanks a lot to the ubuntu community!!!!!03:45
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holycowderek[] , no high speed access?03:45
miikkawhy I cant't find w32codecs???03:45
elad`Where do I find MPlayer?03:45
cyphaseand you can order breezy now03:45
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elad`http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/news.html ?03:45
derek[] holycow, no, and limited datatransfer.03:45
apokryphos!tell miikka about w32codecs03:45
Ngelad`: it's in multiverse03:45
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derek[] holycow, why did you ask?03:45
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holycowderek[] , that sucks03:45
derek[] By the way03:45
_jasonwhat is the difference between the preview of breezy and the actual release in october?03:45
elad`Ng, I can't find it for some reason (I've enabled all repostories)03:45
derek[] I would like to honestly state that03:45
holycowderek[] , i've always wondered why people order those things03:45
stjepanhello03:45
Ng_jason: the preview has bugs :)03:45
miikkaI can't fond w32codecs form apt-get :(03:46
derek[] Ubuntu is really an improved linux03:46
stjepanis windows 98 free now?03:46
_jasonoh I'll wait then ;)03:46
mumblesi have a ubntu install isshue03:46
Ngmiikka: it's not there, but you can grab the package manually from mplayer's website03:46
cyphaseshoot03:46
cyphaselol, i meant ask the question mumbles03:46
Ngelad`: can you stick your /etc/apt/sources.list in a pastebin for me to check?03:46
derek[] I work with graphics, and so far I was always disappointed by the mouse pointer's response to the mouse movement03:46
stjepannow I can't buy win98, I can just buy a copy. Is it free? I need it to port Linux programs to windows03:46
mumbleswhere it says enter usernames it just sends me round and round in circles03:46
cyphasehmm03:47
MaDsKiLLzstjepan, mingw03:47
derek[] but I just ran the live CD, and the pointer's movement was perfect!!!!!!!! :))))))))03:47
cyphasemumbles, what exactly happens?03:47
miikkaI added the extra raposityries wrom ubuntuguide... if u mean that...03:47
elad`Ng: http://pastebin.com/37278103:47
derek[] I would like to contribute to the open source community03:48
Ngelad`: you don't have multiverse03:48
mumblesi type in uerename then login name03:48
mumblesthen the password03:48
apokryphosmiikka: no, ignore the ubuntuguide, it's stoopid. :)03:48
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mumblesthen it thoughs me back to the username screen03:48
apokryphosmiikka: check the message ubotu sent you; it tells you where to get them from.03:48
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cyphasemumbles, when you type the password, do you press tab at the end?03:48
mumblesnope03:48
sdschulzedpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.08_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/X11/fonts', which is also in package xfonts-base03:48
miikkaokei I try03:49
cyphasehmm..03:49
WizzoI get that error too.03:49
sdschulzexfonts-base being 6.8.2.1-3 on breezy03:49
WizzoI was about to ask about ir.03:49
Wizzoit*03:49
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elad`Ng: How do I add multiverse? Copy the line with universe and add multi in there?03:51
joaquinhols03:51
Ngelad`: you can just add "multiverse" to the end of each of the lines that already ends universe, that's probably easiest :)03:51
joaquinalguien me puede ayudar03:52
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mumblescyphase i just skipped it and its working03:52
_jasonmiikka:  I installed w32codecs from: ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/ and they work fine03:52
cyphasemumbles, ok then :)03:52
cyphasecool03:52
mumblesif i dotn get a user im just going to use the safemode to change the pass03:52
XenguyWhat is the standard Ubu way to mount a floppy with a GUI?03:52
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XenguyWhat is the standard Ubu way to mount *anything* with a GUI?03:53
inthenowis xcommon fixed yet? where do you view the changes to the pool?03:54
elad`Ng: There's more than one here. Which one should I download (I have a Pentium 4)?03:54
lorenzodHi all.03:54
Ngelad`: mplayer-586 should do it :)03:54
inthenowE: /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.08_all.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/X11/fonts', which is also in package xfonts-base03:54
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daejavuhello everyone03:56
gizmosisdo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.08_all.deb03:56
lorenzodI've asked this here several times, but I'm still confused so..03:56
daejavucan anyone helpme with J2RE  installation ?03:56
gizmosisyes i can03:56
inthenowgizmosis: i had it removed auto matically in synaptic i think but ill try it03:56
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WebLOCHhmm now i know something is up03:56
apokryphos!tell daejavu about sunjava03:56
apokryphosdaejavu: just grab the debs there and install them.03:56
gizmosisinthenow, it still there hence why i would just remove for now til it is fixed03:56
Xenguynm, got it03:56
lorenzodIs anybody using rhythmbox 0.9 and has auto-rate enabled?03:56
yonilHello, I've tried adding resolution 800x600 to xorg.conf, but it doesnt appear in the screen resolution selection menu (i've restarted X) - any ideas why ?03:57
lorenzodyonil, start by checking /var/log/Xorg.log03:57
inthenowgizmosis: ya no synaptic removes it for you and rm didnt work03:57
WebLOCHDoes anyone know if the "java-package" package has been removed from the repos ?03:58
daejavuubotu just sent me a repository add ... i think that will help .. actually the problem was that i wa unable to get it installed cause it wasent comming up on Synaptic ..03:58
ubotuI'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, daejavu03:58
derek[] How can I contribute to ubuntu?03:58
elad`How do I make VLC the default media player for mpgs?03:58
derek[] I can't with money :/ ..but I'm a designer03:58
lorenzodWebLOCH, I'm pretty sure its still there..03:58
inthenowgizmosis: its a breezy prob...they said it was broken03:58
WebLOCHlorenzod, thats the second thing that isnt showing up anymore, even though I have all repos added03:58
daejavuubotu, wait ... lemme check !03:58
ubotudaejavu: Do they come in packets of five?03:58
yonillorenzod, it seems ok03:58
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lorenzodWebLOCH, when you updated, did you get any error messages?03:59
WebLOCHnot one03:59
seliniumHi guys, the new linux skype deb has a a dependacy on ibqt3c102-mt (>=3:3.3.3.2) but 3:3.3.3-7ubuntu3 is to be installed. How do i get around this?03:59
lorenzodyonil, which resolution is set as default?03:59
WebLOCHis there a way of emptying my cache03:59
gizmosisbrb guyz04:00
gizmosishave to install graphics nvidia somehow04:00
seliniumlibqt3c102-mt*04:00
lorenzodWebLOCH sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/*04:00
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lorenzodThat will zap all your .debs..04:00
daejavuubotu, what comes in packets of five ?04:00
ubotudaejavu: I haven't a clue04:00
yonillorenzod, i don't see any default option in the xorg file, but the only one ubuntu let's me select is 1024x76804:00
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lorenzodyonil, hold on. I'll check my own.04:01
WebLOCHhahaha04:01
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yonillorenzod, thanks04:01
WebLOCHlorenzod, apparently that was a bad idea04:01
sockpuppe1i dont know if this is normal but everytime I start firefox I get this webpage:www.whatuseek.com, and I haven't got a clue why04:01
apokryphosubotu: tell yonil about resolution04:01
WebLOCHlorenzod, apt-get doesnt work anymore :p04:01
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daejavuapokryphos, can u tell me a prog through which i can eaisily manage my paritions in a good GUI enviourment ?04:02
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sockpuppe1any clues as to why that happens04:02
seliniumelad`, has anyone answered your VLC question04:02
apokryphosdaejavu: gparted or qtparted is good04:02
selinium?04:02
WizzoIs it right when every single repository from the list on pastebin isn't working?04:02
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WebLOCHlorenzod, are you there?04:03
lorenzodWebLOCH, if you removed the directory /var/cache/apt/archives recreate it..04:03
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apokryphosWizzo: what?04:03
lorenzodsudo mkdir /var/cache/apt/archives04:03
WebLOCHnope it exists04:03
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WizzoI copied the repositories.04:03
WizzoOn the pastebin link.04:03
apokryphosWebLOCH: your apt isn't working? What's the error?04:03
WizzoAnd none of them work.04:03
WizzoNone of my old ones worked either.04:03
WizzoKeeps saying it can't stat them.04:04
WebLOCHits okay its updating again04:04
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lorenzodyonil, IIRC, the default resolution will be the first one listed.04:04
WebLOCHWhen apt-get states "IGN" for a source is there a reason?04:04
tulkuhi! I would need to have Universe (and maybe Multiverse too) on DVD for a networkless computer. How can I do that? (I do not run ubuntu here)04:04
apokryphosWebLOCH: yes, it means it doesn't need to update that resource -- no package updates were made on the repository, so it needs nothing new.04:05
WizzoOh wair...04:05
yonillorenzod, im gonna try changing the first one .. btb04:05
WizzoI think they're working now.....04:05
WebLOCHapokryphos, how do i clean out the cache, it appears to be lying to me04:05
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apokryphosWebLOCH: sudo apt-get clean04:05
WebLOCHtried that04:05
WebLOCHit still ignores some sources04:05
WebLOCHwhich cant be right if it doesnt know what they have04:05
apokryphosWebLOCH: *sources* or debian packages?04:05
WebLOCHpackages04:05
apokryphosWebLOCH: apt-get clean generally just removes all the debs in the cache archive04:05
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apokryphosWebLOCH: you're saying you do a clean and there are still some there?04:06
WebLOCHi cant find smeg or java-package04:06
lorenzodyonil, yeah, try temporarily removing the 1024x768 entries..04:06
apokryphosubotu: tell WebLOCH about sunjava04:06
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WebLOCHso i am trying to  "update"04:06
apokryphosubotu: tell WebLOCH about smeg04:06
WebLOCHyes I know04:06
WebLOCHI know04:06
WebLOCHBut they are on the damn repo04:06
apokryphosWebLOCH: so what's the problem?04:06
WebLOCHSo i wanted to get them there04:06
WebLOCHFor some reason, they arent showing up for me04:06
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blekoshello guys04:06
apokryphosWebLOCH: sunjava isn't in the repositories anymore; not sure about smeg, I don't use it.04:07
blekoscant c nalioth around :)04:07
blekoshe must be sleeping i guess,04:07
WebLOCHapokryphos, no Sun java isnt, but Java-packages is04:07
WebLOCHand its a pre-stage to installing the binary04:07
blekoshey apokryphos what's up04:07
lorenzodWebLOCH, I'm currently dist-upgrading so I can't check..04:07
furicIs backports not a good thing to have? how will it affect stability of hoary?04:07
apokryphosWebLOCH: well, shaky; blackdown packages are in Multiverse if you're using breezy04:07
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blekosapokryphos where u from?04:07
apokryphosblekos: hi there; not too much; all good :)04:07
apokryphosLondon04:07
blekoslondon!04:08
WebLOCHapokryphos, Im using hoary04:08
blekosgreat city04:08
Seveasfuric, it'll give you hell on upgrades...04:08
WebLOCHlorenzod, thanks for the offer tho04:08
furicok04:08
blekoshow is that & chose that nick04:08
WebLOCHapokryphos, would you check for me ?04:08
apokryphosblekos: I like it, generally, yup 8)04:08
blekos?04:08
seliniumapokryphos, I',m from Southend on Sea!04:08
apokryphosWebLOCH: er, check what?04:08
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lorenzodWebLOCH, no worries :)04:08
blekosdo u speek greek by any chance?04:08
WebLOCHto see if smeg and/or java-package is listed in apt04:08
furicI just want beagle :(04:08
tulkuhi! I would need to have Universe (and maybe Multiverse and Backports too) for Hoary on DVD for a networkless computer. How can I do that? (I do not run ubuntu here)04:08
apokryphosselinium: cool! Visited it a few years ago.. went all the way to the very North. Damn, I sure love shortbread =)04:08
apokryphosblekos: I'm Greek, yes :)04:09
lorenzodfuric, beagle is in the repos?04:09
blekoswhere from?04:09
blekoswhell nice to meet greek04:09
apokryphosWebLOCH: afaik, there aren't other java packages, unless there's GNU java compiler or something04:09
blekosi am too, i was in wales for 2 years04:09
WebLOCHapokryphos, its just a generic common package called "java-package"04:09
blekosBusiness Inform. Systems...04:09
WebLOCHaccording to the guides, you should install it first04:09
apokryphosblekos: join #ubuntu-offtopic and I'll tell ya 8)04:09
WebLOCHits not restricted as far as i know04:09
blekossorry ok04:09
furiclorenzod: Not in hoary, except for in backports04:09
lorenzodfuric, so what's wrong with bp?04:10
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apokryphosWebLOCH: yes, that's in multiverse.04:10
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furicSomeone said it will wreck upgrades04:10
blekosso, why ubuntu does not have mp3 encoders pre-installed while mandriva has??04:10
blekosisn't that strange?04:10
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WebLOCHapokryphos, cheers04:10
furicNot at all04:10
lorenzodfuric, hm, I wouldn't know, but why should that be?04:11
WebLOCHapokryphos, could I steal a copy of your sources.list04:11
apokryphosWebLOCH: I'm on breezy, so it'd be useless, but go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 for an example sources.list04:11
furicblekos: Who would you like to pay for your right to have an encoder preinstalled? should i pay?04:11
lorenzodSo is *nobody* using rhythmbox, then??04:11
blekosnop04:11
blekosbut mandriva is free right?04:11
WebLOCHapokryphos,  sources are identical, i just have to subsitute "breezy" for "hoary"04:11
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apokryphosnot exactly, no04:12
furicI dont want my system becoming less stable, the minute i add backports a thingy pops up in my notification area telling me to upgrade, then says it cant upgrade about 20 essential packages, but still wants me to upgrade some others04:12
apokryphosWebLOCH: go to that page -- trust me. It'll get you all the stuff you need04:12
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WebLOCHhaha04:12
WebLOCHim already there04:12
furicblekos: Sponsored04:12
blekosi c04:12
furicblekos: Either mandriva is very illigal, or it has corperate backing04:12
furicI dont see what all the fuss is about opening synaptic and installing mad and lame is though04:13
arkaneslorenzod: I tried very hard to use rythbox but then it just sucked too much and I switched to somethign else04:13
lorenzodarkanes, I've been using Muine, but decided to play with rhythmbox for a while..04:14
furicamarok is nice, petty its qt based04:14
icewtxmms is still the best ;)04:14
lorenzodbut its auto-rate feature is odd.04:14
arkaneslorenzod: rythbox is *extremely* slow to import music and has consistenly crashed trying to import mine04:14
lorenzodThe more you play a song, the lower rating it gets!04:14
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arkanesarkanes: I have a lot of songs so I'm not sure exactly where, but I think it might have a 32k limit04:14
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arkaneser s/arkanes/lorenzod :P04:15
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zakamehi all04:15
arkanesI'm using beep right now, and it works to the extend that my songs play and I can switch them, so thats nice04:15
lorenzodI think I'll just go back to Muine, I like it better.04:16
furicarkanes: tried amarok?04:16
gnrfanhi everyone if any spanish speaking person is interested Debian Developer Anibal Monsalve is giving an irc talk on "pBuilder" a tool to cleanly build a debian package in a chroot enviroment on channel #debian-peru04:16
lorenzodI see why amarok is popular, but I just don't like it..04:16
arkanesfuric: thought it only supported arts, I need EDS support04:16
gnrfanin this moment.. everyone is invited04:16
zakamepbuilder! =)04:17
arkanesoh, look, amarok-gstreamer right there04:17
arkanesI'll give it a try04:17
furicIt supports anything gstreamer supports, or xine, or arts04:17
zakametoo bad, I'm on dialup...04:17
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SnadderHi.. its an error with the packacge sml in ubuntu..04:17
furicim playing it through esd right now :)04:17
Snadderunmeet dependencies..04:18
Snadderwho's taking care of correcting that kinda stuff in ubuntu?04:18
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furic... package maintainers04:18
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Snadderyeah.. I know..04:19
Snadderbut who do I need to talk with.. to get that fixed/verified?04:19
chrissturmbugzilla04:19
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Snadderanyone cant be so kind trying an apt-get install smlnj  ? and pasting me the output..?04:20
Snaddersince I dont have an ubuntu box here atm..04:20
zakamewhat's smlnj?04:20
Snadderbut I need it fixed.. so I can install it in some days.. I know its broken04:20
ValoThe following packages have unmet dependencies:04:21
Valo  smlnj: Depends: smlnj-runtime (>= 110.42-3) but it is not installable04:21
ValoE: Broken packages04:21
Snadderits a compiler to the ml programming language.04:21
Valoenjoy04:21
Snadderthx04:21
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lorenzodBTW, does anybody have problems with breezy leaking memory?04:22
lorenzodEspecially gnome-panel and nautilus..04:22
chrissturmsnadder: you could try asking in #ubuntu-motu04:22
zakameah04:22
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pumamanHi, does anyone know how to use the "Tv-out in fullscreen by Nvidia (PAL)" option in totem-xine? It is greyed out for me.04:23
Snadderchrissturm, thats what I was looking for.. some channel:)04:23
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NullPointerI was curious of the same thing, but for a ATI card.04:24
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ncdo you know that here in the philippines, that now theres a nationwide anti piracy drive for ms products. And suddenly Linux become so popular.04:24
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ncbut what hinders lots of possible users are linux hardware support and some softwares dont run in linux.04:25
tulkuhi! I would need to have Universe (and maybe Multiverse and Backports too) for Hoary on DVD for a networkless computer. How can I do that?04:26
prabu^are there any other repos for ubuntu like mirros other than security.ubuntu.org04:26
prabu^com04:26
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ksmurfhow do you authenticate a source?04:28
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zakameksmurf, apt source?04:29
lorenzodnc, here in04:30
lorenzodGhana everybody is using pirated MS products.04:30
pmjdebruijnlorenzod, I'm not... (anymore)...04:30
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lorenzodWell, the vast majority are..04:31
fadumptlorenzod, me either04:31
fadumptMS software isn't worth the risk04:31
fadumptbecause it's crap and all04:31
fadumpt...meh...and where I work now, we have tons of MS licenses that are unused04:31
fadumptO_o04:31
pmjdebruijnfadumpt, stealing a 'legal' license, isn't exactly legal... :p04:32
fadumptI don't steal legal licenses04:32
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pmjdebruijnok04:32
fadumptthey are legal for our use, I *use* legal licenses, and having said that, I actually haven't installed any MS at home at all04:32
blekosanybody has problems finding the w32 codecs?04:33
fadumptbekos, it's on Mplayer's site04:33
blekosthey dont seem avail. anymore04:33
kemikthink they were removed from the repos04:33
kemikdue to legal issues04:33
fadumptcan't miss it, under codecs under downloads04:33
blekosthet r04:33
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blekosr the w32 codecs nec. to play mp304:34
Belutz!tell blekos about w32codecs04:34
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Seveasblekos, no04:34
fadumpti don't think so04:34
blekosi've install all the other lame etc...04:34
kemikapt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad04:34
kemikfor mp304:34
Seveasblekos, gstreamer-plugins-multiverse will help too04:34
fadumptwow! mplayer took all the codecs down04:34
fadumptthe other week they had them up04:34
Seveasfadumpt, ?04:34
xareumBelutz, because w32codecs isn't in repositories?04:34
seliniumHi guys, the new linux skype deb has a a dependacy on ibqt3c102-mt (>=3:3.3.3.2) but 3:3.3.3-7ubuntu3 is to be installed. How do i get around this?04:34
Belutzxareum: not anymore04:34
fadumptSeveas, they took down the codecs04:35
Seveasfrom mplayerhq.hu?04:35
blekosi've install them04:35
xareumBelutz, because? any web that explain?04:35
fadumptyeah searcher`04:35
fadumptnot searcher` though04:35
fadumptSeveas04:35
chrissturmselinium, get the static compiled version04:35
Belutzxareum: maybe Seveas can answer that04:35
_jasonI used the package from ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/ for the w32codecs04:35
fadumptI'll have to "illegaly" host the codecs on my site04:35
fadumptthen04:35
blekoswhat r actually the w32codecs04:36
othernoobfadumpt: are you sure?04:36
fadumptabout what?04:36
HiddenFlyi installed dcgui-qt thru package manager, but it doesnt save my configuration, whats wrong?04:36
othernoobfadumpt: about the codecs being down04:36
Seveasfadumpt, http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html04:36
fadumptblekos for video04:36
Seveasthey still have them...04:36
chrissturmfadumpt, http://www4.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/codecs.html04:36
fadumptyeah i just checked mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html04:36
Seveasfadumpt, then look better04:36
fadumptunder codecs they don't on the download page04:36
Seveasthey're still there...04:36
fadumptthat's where they *were*04:36
othernoobfadumpt: uhm, reading problems?04:36
fadumptoriginally04:36
seliniumchrissturm, if i compile it from source how will that change anything? I don't fully understand the system :)04:36
blekoswhen u say video,04:37
fadumptscrew you n00b!04:37
fadumpt:)04:37
Seveasfadumpt, it's where they *are*04:37
blekos u mean just 4 avi04:37
othernoobfadumpt: :p04:37
blekosand my next question is, if they are removed,04:37
chrissturmselinium, on the skype homepage there should be static debs available that dont need the correct qt installed04:37
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seliniumchrissturm, Cheers04:37
magitekhello04:37
fadumptSeveas, there is no link to codecs on mplayer's site...so it's down :)04:37
Belutzfadumpt: there's a file called essential codecs? maybe that's the one?04:38
blekosmeans that pple getting later versions won't b able to c videos etc?04:38
jamey3I am trying to compile PHP and I get the following error: "C compiler cannot create executables." How can I fix ti?04:38
jamey3*it04:38
Seveasfadumpt, put on your glasses...04:38
magitekdo any of you guys have any experience with XChat04:38
othernoobfadumpt: need some sleep perhaps?04:38
fadumptBelutz, no, it's codecs.html04:38
fadumptinstead of dload.html04:38
fadumptthey hid it04:38
seliniummagitek, just ask the question! :)04:38
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tulkuhi! how can I download Universe, Multiverse and Backports for Hoary to burn them on DVD, are there any .iso which I can donwload?04:38
Belutzfadumpt: scroll down?04:38
Seveastrolling is not allowed in here04:38
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othernoobi seriously doubt he was trolling..04:39
seliniumSeveas, trolling?04:39
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Almindoranyone here uses breezy and skype?04:39
kemik!trolling04:39
ubotukemik: Syntax error in line 104:39
magiteklol OK, don't want to annoy people, i'm trying to request a file of custard, but its not doing anything04:39
AlmindorI'm not trolling..04:39
magiteksays hes away04:39
jamey3I am trying to compile PHP and I get the following error: "C compiler cannot create executables." How can I fix ti?04:40
chrissturmis it possible to mount clonecd images in cedega?04:40
Seveasjamey3, don't compile it yourself04:40
Almindorit's just that skype blocks sound after 1st conversation04:40
Seveasinstall it with apt04:40
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_jasonAlmindor, you've changed sound to esd?04:40
Almindornope04:40
AlmindorI have ARTS on ALSA04:40
_jasonI don't use skype, but I read that the other day04:40
emilehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll04:40
Almindorsoftware mixing tho04:41
Almindoralso skype takes like 1 minute to start..04:41
AlmindorI think it's ALSA related04:41
magitekhas anyone got the latest NAruto 152 dattebayo? i'm in halls at uni and im banned from p2p04:41
kemikmagitek:  and this seem to be the best place to ask for it ?04:41
AlmindorI also have problems with flash-sounds04:41
Seveasmagitek, we do not support illegal activities in here...04:41
Almindorjumpy on start04:41
kemikmagitek:  i'd guess that it's not legal to distribute04:41
seliniumjamey3, what are you trying to do, there is a good howto on apache/mysql/php at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP04:41
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magitekok04:42
benkong2what's wrong when my crystal icon theme icons show up as what appears to be scripts of paper?04:42
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jamey3selinium, thanks but I want to compile PHP04:43
[Wiebel] isn't there a way of changing the scaling gouvonor in gnome ?04:43
[Wiebel] kde can do it via bat monitoring in systray04:43
jamey3selinium, this problem seems to occur when i want to compile anything :(04:44
seliniumjamey3: Why?04:44
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jamey3selinium, RC1, plus I want to be able to compile apps!04:44
blekoshow can i make a window 2 b always on top?04:45
[Wiebel] richt klik window bar04:45
Cody`Can anyone explain why ubuntu says: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/var/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions.d/00classic', which is also in package firefox04:45
Cody`E: /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox-gnome-support_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/libmozgnome.so', which is also in package firefox-gnome-support04:45
[Wiebel] klik "on top"04:45
_jasonblekos:   right click on the title bar and press "on top"04:45
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kemikCody`:  see topic04:45
blekosalthough i wear glasses hadn't cn that ;)04:45
blekos8)04:46
Cody`kemik: haha I'll try it04:46
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Cody`also I get the same errors when update xorg on my breezy machine...04:46
BelutzCody`: remove the firefox package, comment the backports repos, and install from ubuntu repos04:46
othernoobwhy are there even backports, if there are only problems with them?04:47
Cody`half of them don't work thats what makes me mad04:47
jamey3selinium, so any ideas as to why it says "C compiler cannot create executables"?04:47
blekosis there something like edonkey for ubuntu?04:47
Belutzothernoob: it's mean for developers testing? i dont know for sure04:47
Belutzblekos: amule04:47
Cody`blekos: amule04:47
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Cody`bah beat to it04:47
othernoobblekos: edonkey runs on linux.04:47
blekosthnx04:48
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seliniumjamey3, Have you 'sudo apt-get install build-essential' ?04:48
othernoobbut wasn't edonkey fooked by the riaa and/or mpaa just a few days ago?04:48
jamey3selinium, nope :) that's exactly the sort of answer i was looking for04:48
jamey3selinium, is there any place that tells you these sorts of things? lol04:49
othernoobjamey3: any linux tutorial?04:49
seliniumjamey3, lol ok that will install the essential build packages04:49
jamey3yeah i gathered lol04:49
seliniumjamey3, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/04:49
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jamey3yeah i should've looked there really, i always recommend it others :P04:49
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jamey3selinium, ooh found it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingCompilers :)04:50
seliniumjamey3, lol04:50
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WizzoCan anyone tell me how to install Limewire?04:51
WizzoI can't figure it out.04:51
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Cody`if I uninstall firefox, but don't do the full remove all04:52
Cody`should my settings stay?04:52
jayson_Ihelloo04:52
BelutzCody`: maybe, not sure04:52
seliniumCody`, Your setting are kept in a file, hold on I'll find it04:52
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jayson_Ican i run my VB6 app in ubuntu using wine?04:52
othernoobCody`: use a real browser, use Opera ;)04:52
Cody`bah :P04:53
Snobloweri'm a complete newb and i need some help - i'm using ubuntu but i want to install windows xp on another partition, can someone tell me hot to setup partitions?04:53
misfit_toyis it safe to update breezy today? did they fix x-common yet?04:53
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jamey3jayson_I, probably -- try it and see04:53
WizzoNone can tell me how to install LimeWire?04:53
Cody`misfit_toy: had the same issue, didn't know they broke it though. :P I thought it was me :P04:54
misfit_toyCody`, heh04:54
misfit_toyCody`, I was stuck in CLI for 2 days, lol04:54
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Cody`I still haven't fixed mine04:54
Cody`I was working on FreeBSD server all yesterday04:54
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Cody`~/.mozilla is where the settings are04:55
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othernoobSnoblower: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/answers.php?action=viewarticle&artid=42804:55
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misfit_toyCody`, try this, sudo /etc/init.d/udev restart04:56
Cody`k04:56
antoine_vous parlez francais ?04:56
cantonacan I install ubuntu from usb memory04:56
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Snoblowerthanks othernoob04:56
othernoobyou're welcome04:56
mypapitmy games based on libSDL doesnt have sound on ubuntu... how to fix this?04:56
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Cody`I have sound issues with ubuntu as well and it's normally due to the program's settings not using ESD04:57
ncwhat is the link of available apps/package list in ubuntu? I cant find it.04:57
Cody`and this is specific to my laptop and none of the other comps I've put hoary on04:57
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apokryphosnc: packages.ubuntu.com04:57
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othernoobWizzo: http://www.granneman.com/techinfo/linux/multimedia/installlimewire.htm04:59
cr1stobalhello?  I'm having trouble with the firefox 1.07 update that was recently released04:59
WizzoThanks.04:59
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apokryphoscr1stobal: /topic04:59
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Cody`cr1stobal: same issue04:59
ncok04:59
Cody`remove backports04:59
PieDHi04:59
gigaclonevery one is04:59
apokryphoshi PieD =)04:59
PieDI'm going to buy a laptop, and I plan to use Breezy on it (I know, that's unstable)04:59
cyphasecr1stobal, my blog has a post about it : http://cyphase.homelinux.com/04:59
cr1stobalI'm new to IRC as well... excuse me if I don't know the protocol here04:59
blekoswho said is unstable :))04:59
blekoswlcm crl05:00
PieDIt looks like it works perfectly under linux, except one small issue : Battery state won't work out of the box05:00
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denn_hi05:00
PieDI'll have to use a custom DSDT05:00
GeekWarPieD: I'm running Breezy great. The recent updates have made it run a LOT better; faster and purt'ey05:00
aboyousifhi all05:00
joel_3242hi all05:00
denn_what's a good news reader for linux?05:00
cyphaseLiferea05:00
cantonacan anyone tell me how to install ubuntu from usb thumb drive?05:00
PieDand the document I'm reading says me : "you will need to recompile de kernel and use the custom DSDT option."05:00
cr1stobalthank you cyphase05:00
cyphasenp05:00
cyphasecan you access it?05:00
PieDdoes the breezy kernel already have this option turned on ?05:00
cyphasedo you another browser installed?05:01
joel_3242i just install hoary in a laptop and i'm having a problem05:01
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aboyousifguys, could i run gnome on cpu P3 1200/256 and 128Ram ????05:01
PieDGeekWar: yes, I know... I'm using it since 20 days :)05:01
joel_3242i can't play music with xmms05:01
blekosbtw x-common doesnt work yet05:01
joel_3242or play command05:01
{CyberFreak}hi all05:01
GeekWarPieD: From what I've read Breezy isn't doing so hot with the battery stats either05:01
Seveasblekos, dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common*.deb05:01
cr1stobalyeah... i can start firefox using the sudo and the command line05:02
cr1stobali'm reading your post now05:02
ncwhew my ubuntu download is 99%. I hope I will be succesfull in installing it. is it easy?05:02
cyphaseoh05:02
cr1stoballooks pretty straightforward05:02
Seveasnc, very :)05:02
apokryphoscr1stobal: why would you use sudo firefox?05:02
othernoobnc: considering that you have hardly any choice..05:02
antoine_very easy05:02
cyphasecr1stobal, change the icon to point to firefox instead of firefox-bin05:02
PieDGeekWar: my question isn't really related to battery status directly. I only want to know whether it has the custom DSDT option enabled or not05:02
{CyberFreak}can anyone help me ? i'm updating to breezy and i cant hear sound :(05:02
{CyberFreak}with kernel 2.6.12-9-68605:02
ncok, ill try. what is that sudo?05:02
{CyberFreak}when i boot with the old kernel 2.6.10 i can hear05:02
PieDit looks like it won't work with any computer because of a buggy dsdt05:03
denn_is there a good linux news reader that can download bunch of binary stuff05:03
cr1stobali usually don't... but the 1.07 upgrade has things messed up somehow... i tried starting firefox with sudo and it worked05:03
apokryphos!tell nc about sudo05:03
cr1stobaljust a blind guess05:03
cyphasedenn_, Liferea can05:03
albacker_guys im compiling kernel..  do i need this : Enable support for printk (PRINTK) [Y/n/?]  (NEW)   ? y/n/?05:03
blekosgreat thnx05:03
apokryphosnc: only ever use sudo for operations that require you to complete it with root permissions05:03
aboyousifall: could i run the gnome2.12 on cpu p3 1200/256 + ram 128 ????05:03
Seveasalbacker_, if you don't know that - stick to precompiled kernels05:03
cr1stobaldenn_ I used "Pan Newsreader"05:03
ncdo i need that during ubuntu isntallation?05:03
othernoobaboyousif: sure05:03
Seveasalbacker_, also: use the ubuntu kernel-build system if you don't want to mess  up your system05:03
Xorlevalbacker_: When make oldconfig'ing just go with default for everything unless you know exactly what you're doing.05:04
apokryphosnc: sudo for the install? Nope.05:04
cyphasedenn_, my mistake :). thought you meant feed reader for some reason05:04
cr1stobalyes... i understand that... but i needed to get firefox running to troubleshoot this problem... and sudo allowed me to do it05:04
ncmuch better.05:04
GeekWarPieD: I don't know how much help I can be but I'm sniffing around for you05:04
{CyberFreak}and my second problem is that i cant load the ndisdriver module05:04
gigaclonaboyousif, i don't see why not, you should try it05:04
PieDGeekWar: ok, thanks05:04
Cody`gah05:04
Cody`firefox doesn't even run now05:04
Cody`:(05:04
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XorlevSudo comes in handy with my cat, whom runs Ubuntu Hoary. Sometimes the user account is stubborn.05:05
apokryphosCody`: what version?05:05
ncis ubuntu the most used distro now?05:05
PieDit looks like, from reading the /boot/config file of my breezy kernel, that it's not enabled, but I'm not sure05:05
cyphaseCody', http://cyphase.homelinux.com/05:05
cyphasenc, maybe05:05
albacker_im making old config [make oldconfig]  and that was there.. after makind the old config i would configure my sound card... [this is the problem with the old kernel] ... and than i would compile that and create bzimage.. and everything05:05
Cody`hoary and I just did the update to 1.0.705:05
apokryphosnc: not really, nope.05:05
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Seveasnc, it is among the people in here :)05:05
apokryphosCody`: /topic05:05
Cody`cyphase: no browser :)05:05
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cyphaseCody', no other browser?05:05
Seveasalbacker_, also: use the ubuntu kernel-build system if you don't want to mess  up your system <---05:05
Cody`apokryphos: I know, already did that, I'm not using backports05:05
cyphasei'll pm it to you05:05
apokryphosCody`: so breezy?05:05
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albacker_Seveas, how to open that ?05:06
Cody`hoary for this issue, x-common issue on hoary comp05:06
Seveasalbacker_, wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto05:06
Cody`hoary for this issue, x-common issue on breezy comp*05:06
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apokryphosCody`: but 1.0.7 isn't available from anywhere but backports (unless you got it from mozilla site)05:06
apokryphosCody`: the breezy x-common issue is fixed by doing a force install05:06
Cody`0.o05:06
Skidhi, just installed horay 5.04 using linux-expert; however when I try to select an application that needs root access, when the sudo prompt comes up, I enter the password and it exist with child status 105:06
ncuntil now , i dont know what distro is the best. I just found ubuntu tru cnet news and because its free. To the ubuntu users what can u comment about it?05:06
Cody`that'd be my issue, I bet I need to apt-get update05:06
Cody`forgot to do that when I removed backports05:07
cyphaseapokryphos, 1.0.7 is available from the official repo05:07
apokryphosyes, you need to05:07
Skidi dont really fancy re-installing again, anyone have any idea what I could do?05:07
SeveasSkid, the expert option does not install sudo05:07
apokryphosCody`: and make sure you remove your current.05:07
SkidSeveas, well entering the root password is wrong..05:07
Cody`I will05:07
apokryphoscyphase: not in hoary05:07
cyphaseyes it is05:07
SeveasSkid, use su05:07
cyphaselol05:07
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SkidSeveas, I do mate but Im on about a gnome application taht needs need05:07
dylan_what is DAO?05:07
Skid(networking config, for example)05:07
cyphasei have it installed and running. so do a lot of people05:07
SeveasSkid, then setup sudo yourself ;)05:08
Skidits already installed :)05:08
apokryphoscyphase: aha, so it is; wasn't in when I checked yesterday, IIRC.05:08
Skidso it must do heh05:08
SeveasSkid, config sudo i mean05:08
Seveasadduser your_id admin05:08
cr1stobalchris@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get mozilla-firefox mozilla-firefox-gnome-support05:08
cr1stobalE: Invalid operation mozilla-firefox05:08
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muszekhello05:08
Seveasecho %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL >> /etc/sudoers05:08
GeekWarPieD: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ACPIBattery did you check this out?05:08
apokryphoscr1stobal: you missed the install off05:08
cr1stobalThat's what happend when trying to install firefox05:08
Seveasand there, sudo is usable :)05:09
cr1stobalah... thanks!05:09
PieDGeekWar: no, I'm going to do it yet :)05:09
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jayson_Ihi there is any tutorial in Dual boot together with winXP?05:09
ChurcH_of_FoamYanyone know how to fix the ice error05:09
dylan_can somebody tell me what DAO is?05:09
ChurcH_of_FoamYthe one that causes you to get kicked out in 10 seconds after logging in05:09
nigeldisk at once ?05:09
PieDGeekWar: thanks :)05:10
Seveasjayson_I, you don;t need one05:10
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cr1stobalnope... no luck :-(05:10
Seveasthe installer sets it up automatically05:10
PieDthat's the solution...05:10
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muszekcould anyone please help me set up wireless connection?  I have settings that work under windows but I'm not sure how to set everything under ubuntu (some stuff is called differently)05:10
GeekWarPieD: no problem man05:10
ncubuntu on 128 mb ram, duron 1.3 ghz , 20 Gb HDD, is it fast? do programs launch fast, do ubuntu, becomes slow after long hours of usage? any comment pls....05:10
dylan_nigel, yes05:10
Seveasnc, you need at least 512-768MB swap05:10
ChurcH_of_FoamYanyone know?05:10
Seveasand then it runs just fine05:10
blekosany idea why my dvd player doesnt play... right?05:11
blekosi need w32 install right?05:11
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SeveasI run it on an athlon 900 :)05:11
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QMarioHow do I start the workspace switcher?05:11
humulusQMario: gnome?05:11
ncu mean it is slow?05:11
Seveasrightclick on panel, select add to panel, select the switcher05:11
muszekI installed ubuntu on pII for a friend 3 weeks ago and it was working nicely.05:11
QMarioHumulus, huh?05:12
Seveasnc, no, I mean it's good05:12
{CyberFreak}muszek, iwconfig wlan0 mode managed essid YourSSID05:12
{CyberFreak}if u use AP in your home05:12
blekosr there dlls for linux?05:12
LinuxJonesQMario, ctrl + alt + up arrow05:12
muszek<{CyverFreak}> may I talk to you on priv?05:12
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{CyberFreak}muszek, ok05:12
cr1stobalany other ideas on the firefox 1.07 upgrade?  I ran the apt-get commands on your blog... but firefox attempts to start up... and then closes05:12
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othernoobblekos: dlls for linux?05:14
blekosi know it sounds silly05:15
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othernoobblekos: it does indeed05:15
blekosjust download w32 codecs05:15
QMarioOkay, thank you Seveas, Humulus, and Linux Jones!!! :)05:15
blekosthat were supposed 2 b 4 linux05:15
nigelothernoob: its not silly05:15
m0biu5I just tried to update firefox, but I am getting some overwrite error =/05:15
blekosi untar it and c dll files...05:15
blekos!!!05:15
ubotuwell, ! is what you add before a sentence to talk to me05:15
othernoobnigel: it isn't?05:15
othernoobnigel: why isn't it silly?05:15
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nigelothernoob: things like tcpwrappers can use them i'm sure05:16
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QMarioll05:16
othernoobmmh..05:16
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nigelothernoob..i mean ndis wrappers05:16
PieDblekos: the win32 codecs are codecs from windows usable by mplayer or xine on linux05:17
coaxhow can i set the change mime defaults?05:17
m0biu5E: /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/var/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions.d/00classic', which is also in package firefox05:17
coaxin gnome05:17
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othernoobnigel: mmh, you know however that dlls are a windows and ibm os/2 catastrophy don't you?05:18
blekosohh i c05:18
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blekosthat makes things clearer05:18
blekosi can play divx now05:18
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othernoobnigel: and you also know that linux doesn't use dynamic link layers? you also do know that this is one of several advantages linux has, dont you?05:19
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blekosbut when i ff it then sound & image gets ansychronus, any ideas?05:19
ionshey I just tried upgrading to Breezy but X won't start due to font errors05:19
m0biu5can anyone help me - my firefox didn't upgrade ad now it wont open05:19
apokryphosm0biu5: /topic05:19
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ionsI know there's a fix but I no longer have X to go find it :\05:19
m0biu5apokryphos, what?05:19
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apokryphosm0biu5: check the topic05:20
Plukcd /var/cache/apt/archives05:20
Pluksudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite mozilla-firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb05:20
m0biu5apokryphos, ok, thanks05:20
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Plukjust dont use --force-overwrite lightly05:20
Plukbut in this case it fixed the mozilla problem05:21
apokryphosPluk: I think it's better to remove the current firefox, and just install the one that's now in main05:21
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ionsany idea on X not starting after upgrading to Breezy?  It's complaining about fonts05:22
Plukremove and reinstall. or overwrite .. its the same to me :)05:22
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apokryphosnot if the packages provide different files :P05:22
mirakhi05:22
apokryphosions: x-common error?05:22
zaelany easy way to fix refresh rate problem? I can't even find my monitor on the net, only bugzilla reports05:22
ionsyeah05:22
mirakI am trying to install MAME, but it doesn't install anything05:22
apokryphosions: sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common*.deb05:23
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Seveasah damn...05:23
=== ..[topic/#ubuntu:Seveas] : Official Ubuntu Help channel | Colony 5 is out: http://tinyurl.com/85dry | Upgrading to breezy? http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes | Documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation | Use paste.ubuntulinux.nl for pasting | Channel logs: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ General chatter: #ubuntu-offtopic | Found a bug? report it: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com | Firefox problems? Stop using crappy backports
ChurcH_of_FoamYanyone know how to fix ICE error the one that kicks you out of gnome 10 seconds after you log in?05:23
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ChurcH_of_FoamYSeveas: you know how to fix the ICE error?05:24
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ChurcH_of_FoamYdoes anyone?05:25
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SeveasChurcH_of_FoamY, login in text mode and rm -r ~/.ICEauthority ~/.Xauthority /tmp/*05:25
Seveas(as normal user, NOT as root)05:25
ChurcH_of_FoamYkk05:25
apollo2011hi everyone05:25
apollo2011I can't upgrade Firefox because it is trying to upgrade "mozilla-firefox" and" mozilla-firefox-gnomesupport" when "firefox" and "firefox-gnomesupport" are still installed, and these packages need to be uninstalled first05:26
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Seveasapokryphos, read topic05:26
mirakhi05:26
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mirakI can't find xmame on ubuntu ppc05:26
Seveasapollo2011(05:26
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edgarinhi05:27
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apokryphosSeveas: eh?05:27
Turms_i've upgraded to breezy, now x fails to start, it ha problems with fonts, is it a known issue or just a problem of mine?05:27
Seveasapokryphos, <tab> error :)05:27
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Cody`Turms_: sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common*.deb05:27
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apokryphosah, ok05:27
apollo2011Im just using the Ubuntu packages05:27
denn_i just installed pan newreader and i want to add it to that gnome Application menu on top? how do i do that?05:28
edgarinhowto install project64 __05:28
edgarin??05:28
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Turms_Cody`: thanks :-)05:28
Seveasapollo2011, no you used backports05:28
apollo2011no i did not05:28
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Cody`I'm not it's not running for me either05:28
apollo2011I haven't changed the firefox packages since I installed Ubuntu 3 mths ago05:28
Seveasyes you did otherwise this would not happen.05:28
Cody`so it's not just backports05:28
sorush20guys I keep getting this error and I can't fix it can somone help please.. I don't want to have to reinstall firefox, I can't run firefox since this error appeared.. E: /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/var/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions.d/00classic', which is also in package firefox05:28
apollo2011and I didn't add the backport repo until a month ago05:28
Cody`sorush20: see topic05:29
apollo2011if it auto installed something thats not my fault05:29
Seveassorush20, /topic05:29
apollo2011w3hat do I have to do to fix this?05:29
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Seveasapollo2011, , of course it is - you enabled it05:29
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apollo2011I don't care what you say05:29
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apollo2011I didn't enable any firefox packages other than upgrading them since I installed Ubuntu05:30
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sorush20Seveas: Cody` are you saying I should upgrade..05:30
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dylan_why does cd burning in linux take so much longer than it does on windows?  is there a fix for this issue?05:30
^DodGeR^what u using to burn dylan_  ?05:31
Seveassorush20, dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common*deb should work05:31
^DodGeR^gnomebaker took me like 2 minutes to write a cd05:31
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dylan_^DodGeR^, graveman05:31
Seveasmaybe combined with dpkg --configure --pending05:31
ionsI am still having the font issue - X still will not start05:31
apollo2011Which are the real packages? mozilla-firefox or firefox?05:31
dylan_^DodGeR^, i have a 52x cd burner and copying a cd takes for goddamn ever05:31
Cody`sorush20: remove backports from sources.list then apt-get update, then uninstall your backports copy of firefox and then reinstall ubuntu firefox package05:31
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^DodGeR^maybe try gnome baker dylan_05:31
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^DodGeR^and ull want to see if u have DMA enabled for the drives05:31
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Seveassorush20, euh discard my last line, mixing up people there :)05:32
dylan_^DodGeR^, i did.....and i have dma enabled on all my drives.05:32
^DodGeR^then use gnomebaker :)05:32
^DodGeR^that wroked for me05:32
^DodGeR^superfast05:32
apollo2011Which are the real packages? mozilla-firefox or firefox?05:32
dylan_its been 10 minutes and im still only 150mb out of 720mb written05:32
joenilsonhi anyone can say me if ubuntu has memory limits?, cuz i have a Sempron 3000+ with 2Gb memory and only see 990Mb of memory05:32
^DodGeR^ouch05:32
Cody`apollo2011: do you have backports in your sources.list?05:32
Seveasjoenilson, apt-get install linux-k705:32
^DodGeR^i burnt 600Mb in like 2 minutes or so iirc05:32
Seveasand reboot into that kernel05:32
denn_anyone know how to add icons to gnome Applications menu on top?05:32
apollo2011Cody`: yes05:32
pmjdebruijnI have two application in which I've dragged my toolbar outside of the application as a standalone window... but now I can't merge it back in? Does anybody have a clue on how to do that?05:32
pmjdebruijnIf I drag it above the application, it'll just hover over it... the toolbar won't snap back...05:33
dylan_^DodGeR^, is there a setting that im missing or something? is there a driver?  what can i do?05:33
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joenilsonSeveas, what means k7?05:33
Cody`apollo2011: comment them out, then remove all of their firefox packages(they end itn bp1 I think) and then install firefox from synaptic05:33
^DodGeR^no sure dylan_ , if u ahve dma enabled, im guessing it just depends how good the writing software ..05:33
pmjdebruijnjoenilson, amd athlon or better05:33
Seveasjoenilson, AMD CPUs :)05:33
Cody`if that doesn't let firefox run, then you are in my boat05:33
Cody`I have to run firefox as root now :(05:33
apollo2011Cody`: well both package sets I see for Firefox end in ubp105:33
SeveasCody`, don't05:33
Seveaskillall -q firefox-bin05:34
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Seveas(as normal user or root)05:34
apollo2011Cody`: never mind05:34
Seveasmaybe cleaning out ~/.mozilla helps too05:34
Seveasapollo2011, those are backports05:34
Cody`TY Seveas05:34
sorush20Seveas: this doesn't work dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common*deb, I get this error.. http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2490,  Cody` after removing backport and installing from ubuntu should I add back ports again..05:34
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denn_anyone know how to add icons to gnome Applications menu on top? is it even possible?05:34
dylan_Seveas, can you help me please with my cd writing issue.  my cd drives dont burn as fast as they do on windows05:34
Cody`sorush20: just don't update firefox when you do05:34
GeekWarPieD: any luck?05:34
Seveassorush20, no don't add it back05:35
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apollo2011Seveas: I know they are backport, but something must have selected them as a dependency etc. because I know I didnt select them05:35
ompaulSeveas, I got four words for ya, no firefox when root05:35
Seveasapollo2011, bullshit.05:35
apollo2011thats all Im saying05:35
PieDGeekWar: sorry ?05:35
Seveasompaul, my kind of thinking :)05:35
GeekWarPieD: Any luck?05:35
joenilsonpmjdebruijn, Seveas thanks i will install them, and other problem i have a K7 pcchips mobo and ubuntu see the via soundcard but i can listen any sound, but the alsamixer says that all volumes are high05:35
neighborleeshould I wait for xfonts-base fix or is it safe to use the --force fix from forum ???05:35
cajuni am unable to delete files from my desktop.  I keep getting the message that I do not have permissions.  I used chmod to give the user and the group rwx for the Desktop folder and all *.jpg and *.JPG files in the folder05:35
Pickle_Weaselhow would i go about updating to the badger beta? >.>05:35
PieDGeekWar: luck with what ?05:35
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Seveasneighborlee, --force-overwrite is safe on x-common05:35
SeveasPickle_Weasel, not.05:36
PieDI'm going to buy that laptop, I didn't already buy it05:36
apollo2011Seveas: the bp one says that mozilla-firefox depends on it, so it probably got selected when it upgraded mozilla-firefox last05:36
Seveascurrently it's broken a bit05:36
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Pickle_Weaseli see05:36
neighborleeSeveas, ok thx...I was doing a synaptic update and got the error so wanted to make sure05:36
Pickle_Weasel=(05:36
GeekWarPieD: Ohh ha05:36
SeveasPickle_Weasel, ask again in a few days :)05:36
PieDbut that's also needed for a friend' laptop05:36
dylan_Seveas, can you help?05:36
neighborleeSeveas, err software update ;-)05:36
cr1stobalexit05:37
apollo2011I got rid of backports but when I tell it to remove firefox, it wants to upgrade mozilla-firefox, but I can't do that because then it complains that firefox is still installed05:37
Seveasdylan_, no, I didn't burn a cd since about a year :)05:37
ncdevice driver is very problematic in linux. its very rare. whew, thingking..... thingking......05:37
dylan_Seveas, can you point me in the right direction of where to go then?05:37
PieDnc: linux isn't the problem05:38
XorlevJust upgraded xorg and such from the repos, and it seems that unlike before, it won't load glx.05:38
Seveasdylan_, if I knew the right direction I would05:38
PieDthe hardware makers are the problem05:38
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ompauldylan_, is this burn a CD under linux? and if so is it to burn an iso?05:38
cyphaseapollo2011, see end of title05:38
apollo2011cyphase: see chat history!05:39
ncPieD:why?05:39
sorush20inf the sources.list should I uncomment all horey and add the breezy...05:39
ChurcH_of_FoamYSeveas i tryed it but it diden't work05:39
ncyeah, i got it.05:39
PieDbecause they don't release informations nor drivers for their hardware05:39
cyphaselol05:39
SeveasChurcH_of_FoamY, tried what?05:39
PieDthat's not our fault05:39
cyphasedo you have another browser installed?05:39
dylan_ompaul, no im trying to dupe an audio CD05:39
ChurcH_of_FoamYSeveas: to fix ICE05:39
^DodGeR^nyone know what the GStreamer pipeline is for an mp3 audio profile ? cant seem to run the rythmox help for adding it05:39
Seveasah05:39
Saw^could somebody help me a bit with getting my sounds to work? I've got SB 128 (snd_ens1371 module seems to be loaded) and artsd is running05:39
jayson_ISeveas: Can you help me to dual boot my PC winXP and ubuntu?05:39
ChurcH_of_FoamYSeveas: and it still kicks me outta gnome 10 seconds after logging in05:40
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nci finished burning the ubuntu but driver issues seems to stop me.05:40
apollo2011cyphase: I just realized I installed Opera two days ago...going...going...05:40
PieDnc: what can we do when a hardware maker doesn't want to give any information nor driver for its hardware ?05:40
jayson_II always try to dual but i cannot succed05:40
Cody`wtf05:40
Seveaswhat's the exact error ChurcH_of_FoamY? Or don't you get a message?05:40
Cody`breezy fixed itself05:40
dylan_ompaul, no luck?  where do i go?05:40
PieDnc: what hardware causes a driver problem for you ?05:40
Cody`just turned it back on after 3 days of not working it X started :)05:40
jayson_Ii always install 1st the winXP05:40
ncthe webcam.05:40
PieDon my computer, I've no driver to install with breezy :)05:40
ChurcH_of_FoamYit does give me an error thats simmialar to what happens when you install k3b in breezy05:40
david__spanish?05:41
ncPieD: whoa thats pretty cool huh!05:41
Seveas!es05:41
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:41
misfit_toyCody`, did that udev command work?05:41
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ChurcH_of_FoamYSeveas: if u where to wright it down it would take me a while05:41
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ChurcH_of_FoamYSeveas: if i where05:41
dylan_ompaul, please help!  :(05:41
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sorush20wouldn't it be a great Idea if the sources.list file could be updated automatically instead of us haveing to do it..05:41
Seveassorush20, no, that would be evil05:41
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sorush20Seveas: why?05:42
misfit_toySeveas, is x-common fixed yet? as in safe to update today?05:42
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ompauldylan_, I have not done that with linux only isos for distribution05:42
Seveasbut I just thought of a great idea sorush2005:42
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Cody`misfit_toy: haven't tried yet. I turned the comp on yesterday and updated via commandline and it didn't work, so I just shut it off and went back to workin on my server,t urned it on today and it worked :)05:42
jayson_Ianyone can help me?05:42
dylan_ompaul, is there a driver that i can install to make my CDs write fastser?05:42
ChurcH_of_FoamYSeveas: all i know for shure is that it has something to do with ICE crapping out after 10 seconds and kicking me outta gnome back into the login screen05:42
sorush20Seveas: what was your great Idean05:43
sorush20Seveas: what was your great Idea05:43
cr1stobalafter following cyphase's blog instructions and removing backports without fixing mozilla... I rebooted my laptop and now mozilla works.... cyphase's instructions must work but for some reason i had to reboot to make firefox launch properly, no idea why05:43
SQFreakMy computer only recognizes the first 1GB of my 1.5GB of RAM according to /proc/meminfo. I'm using kernel 2.6.13-rc3-mm1 compiled for a Pentium M (which is what I have). Any suggestions on how to get it to recognize the rest of my RAM?05:43
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XorlevSQFreak: You have to enable high memory support in the kernel.05:43
cyphasecr1stobal, yea, a lot of people are having that problem05:43
ompauldylan_, ehh no, you might want to burn slower as that influences the quality and can break the burn leaving you with a coaster05:43
ncwhat should i do? i cant find the driver for my webcam. this is the last hindrance to start my linux installation.05:43
cyphasei think it has to do with apt corrupting itself05:44
cyphasemaybe..05:44
cyphasejust a guess05:44
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ChurcH_of_FoamYSeveas: it seems to happen after it trys to update stuff05:44
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dylan_ompaul, really?  so the way Windows XP burns CDs is actually bad?05:44
cr1stobali'm guessing that restarting gnome would have the same effect, but someone else will have to test that theory...05:44
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cyphaseooooohh05:44
puterfixerhello, everyone.05:44
ompauldylan_, I don't know windows05:44
cyphasei know what it is05:44
ChurcH_of_FoamYSeveas: and after you install k3b >.< which i have to stop doing05:44
ompauldylan_, but from what I hear it is very bad at lots of things05:44
sorush20so horey is off and breezy is on05:44
cr1stobalcyphase, what's that?05:45
ChurcH_of_FoamYSeveas: any ideas?05:45
cyniclehey can someone help me, im an utter noob is ubuntu redhat, mandrake, source or wat!? im trying to download the latest gaim05:45
puterfixergentlemen, I'm trying to compile my own saa7134 module for the TV tuner from the CVS, I'm following the instructions here: http://linuxtv.org/v4lwiki/index.php/How_to_build_from_CVS . they mention compiling the kernel... do I really need to do that?05:45
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x4mSQFreak,  http://66.249.93.104/search?q=cache:qFVsF5tXUisJ:www.cpqlinux.com/memory.html+%2Blinux+%2Bmem%3D&hl=fr&lr=&client=firefox&strip=105:46
pmjdebruijncynicle, please just stay with the ubuntu supplied packages, it'll save you a lot of grief...05:46
ompaulSeveas, a spec that generated an apt.conf might be a good idea to lock stuff to the first installed version and moves this along with dist upgrade05:46
cynicleok then05:46
cr1stobalgaim should be available via synaptic05:46
{CyberFreak}can anyone help me with the sound on breezy ubuntu ??05:46
jayson_Ihelooo anyone can help me?05:47
{CyberFreak}i cant do it working with the 2.6.12 kernel05:47
cynicleif i want to download a program for ubuntu will any linux program work05:47
ChurcH_of_FoamYok so no one has any idea how to fix the ICE error?05:47
{CyberFreak}works with 2.6.1005:47
puterfixercynicle, add the Breezy repositories in Synaptic and you will have access to GAIM 1.6 compiled for Ubuntu.05:47
sorush20ompaul: what is it that you are talking about..05:47
jayson_Ihow to dual boot winXP and ubuntu?05:47
cyniclei use gnome05:48
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pmjdebruijncynicle, generally yes05:48
cynicleso whats synaptic?05:48
shaoqihi. how do i set vlc as my default video player? thanks05:48
ompaulsorush20, well when the _man_ (not using his name to stop him wasting time reading this) said he was off to do a spec and I passed him a comment on something that came to me05:48
puterfixercynicle: System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager. it's a package manager, sort of an "Add/Remove Programs"05:48
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cynicleyour my hero puterfixer, thanks05:49
dbzdeathlol great... my mate just goes that he doesn't like the way kubuntu uses kde and that it isn't the normal way a distro uses it...05:49
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shaoqihi. how do i set vlc as my default video player? thanks. anyone?05:50
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SpudULikeHow can I tell what is using port 631 on my system. I'm having a bit of a cups problem.05:50
ompaulasks a question and goes - arrrrrrrrrrr05:50
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cyniclegrrr now its telling me i have a broken package i must fix, how do i go around doing that?05:51
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ompaulSpudULike, to configure a printer one can "system - administartion - printing"05:51
shaoqihi. how do i set vlc as my default video player? thanks. anyone?05:51
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misfit_toySeveas, is x-common fixed yet? as in safe to update today?05:52
Cody`misfit_toy:try this? sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common*.deb05:52
ompaulmisfit_toy, I believe this is they way  sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.08_all.de05:53
shaoqianyone can help me?05:53
ompaulthere is a b at the end of that05:53
Saw^could somebody help me a bit with getting my sounds to work? I've got SB 128 (snd_ens1371 module seems to be loaded) and artsd is running. Still I can't get any sounds out05:53
misfit_toyI do that *before* the update?05:53
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apokryphosshaoqi: no need to repeat05:53
SpudULikeompaul: No I can't, that's one of the 'issues' I'm having with Cups.05:53
apokryphosshaoqi: if someome is able/willing ot help, they will.05:53
cyphaseAdded a comment to my blog post so people don't need to restart to fix Firefox : http://cyphase.homelinux.com/05:54
shaoqiapokryphos, alright then05:54
ompaulSpudULike, to do some digging use lsof05:54
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ompaulSpudULike, list open files it looks at ports also and netstat -an and some other stuff05:55
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puterfixercvs: command not found. ha?05:56
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apokryphosputerfixer: idea! Install it05:57
puterfixeryeah, I'm on it :)05:57
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puterfixerdo I really need to recompile the kernel before compiling a newer version of the saa7134 module for my tv tuner?05:58
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gangaleeAnyone been able to upgrade Gaim on Hoary?05:59
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XoloXHi all. Just installed Breeze Badger 5.10 Preview Release, which I downloaded yesterday. On first boot it offers me 338 (!) package updates, totalling 224 MB. I don't mind this (Cable connection) but are there already this much updates? It's not trying to downgrade or apply patches from 5.02 or something?05:59
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SeveasXoloX, sounds about right06:00
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SeveasX and openoffice had updates06:00
XoloXHehe06:00
othernoobmmh, cdrecord recognizes my dvdrw as 4x while it actually is a 8x, any way to fix this?06:00
KiraGood morning.06:00
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masterra_Morning06:00
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NgXoloX: it's churning a lot at the moment because there are lots of bugs being fixed atm06:01
KiraQuick question: If I would like to dual-boot Windows XP + Ubuntu, which order of installation would make my life easier?06:01
XoloXOK, thanks for your quick help, I'll just go ahead and apply the updates! Cheers!06:01
othernoobKira: xp then ubuntu06:01
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NgXoloX: after release it will quieten down a lot :)06:01
AsenathThanks othernoob I was wondering about this as well06:01
XoloXNg: OK, I know what I'm doing (running a preview release), I was just afraid it would apply the wrong set of patches.06:01
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krnekihay06:01
XoloXThanks again06:01
NgXoloX: :)06:01
othernoobyou're welcome06:01
krnekihow can i change group for one user06:01
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nir-hi06:02
Seveaskrneki, be a bit more specific...06:02
krnekii want to give someone admin right06:02
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krnekibut i want to do this in terminal06:02
Kirathanks othernoob06:02
nir-iv just add another computer to my home network, iv got a ping to it , but i cant telnet it ..06:02
nir-what could be the reason06:02
Seveaskrneki, sudo adduser some_username admin06:03
masterra_Can anyone help me with sound in Breezy? I installed, everything went well, and everything is working great, except gnome says i have no sound.. but catting something into /dev/dsp gives plenty of sound.. so something is misconfigured in gnome?06:03
nir-i getting Connection refused err msg06:03
AsenathI am currently sitting at my windows machine wondering whether to give Ubuntu a try or not since Fedora would install but not boot for some reason06:03
Seveasnir-, telnet is very unsafe06:03
apokryphoskrneki: or, you can just add them to sudoers now06:03
krnekii am what about if user already exist06:03
Seveasand probably not even installed on the destination machine :)06:03
nir-its in my home network06:03
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nir-for testigg purpuse06:03
Seveaskrneki, that's ok, adduser username groupname adds user username to group groupname06:03
krnekiok06:03
Seveasnir-, even then you should use ssh :)06:04
nir-i'll use SSH if its bother :)06:04
nir-yea i know... :)06:04
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nir-but i have only two machines here , my xp , and ubuntu :)06:04
dylan_how do i change the buffer usage when im burning a cd?06:04
nir-why i get connection refused ?06:04
nir-myabe bcz hosts.alow ?06:04
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dylan_did you guys get my message?06:05
krnekii set that one directory is gruop owned by admin06:06
Seveasnir-, by default no ssh or telnet daemon is installed06:06
nir-oh :)06:06
nir-so how i enable it ?06:06
Seveasso apt-get install openssh-server06:06
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krnekiand do chmod +gw -R *06:06
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jayson_Iany programming language in ubuntu has a gui?06:06
Seveasand use putty on your windows machine for ssh :)06:06
GnuKemistjayson_I, c#06:06
matrixhow do i switch drive in cmd line ?06:06
nir-thanks :)06:06
krnekibut still admin group can't make new subdirectories06:06
GnuKemistjayson_I, java06:06
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jayson_Iwhere i can download it?06:06
Seveaskrneki, g+w06:06
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Seveasnot +gw06:06
nir-i thought that SSH/TELNET daemons are by deafult06:07
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krnekiaha06:07
GnuKemistjayson_I, check out monodevelop06:07
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dylan_how do i change the amount of buffer usage when im burning a cd?06:07
GnuKemistjayson_I, or Eclipse06:07
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Seveasnir-, no, that's against the no-open-port-by-default poilicy06:07
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jayson_IGnuKemist: Ok i will try06:07
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GnuKemistjayson_I, good luck06:07
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dylan_cause right now im only using 3% of my entire buffer06:08
nir-do u know if debian supprts that policy ?06:08
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cyniclehey do you guys know howto access your files stored in a windows NTFS partion with ubuntu?06:10
cynicleor if you even can06:10
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=== dylan_ wants to change buffer usage when burning a CD...how does he do that?
MindChilddylan_: it will use as much as it needs06:11
Seveas!ntfs06:11
ubotuhmm... ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.06:11
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dylan_MindChild, does the buffer determine how fast the CD burns?06:11
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masterra_Can anyone direct me to some info on getting sound working in gnome?06:11
MindChilddylan_: not at all.... it is there so you dont get a buffer underrun06:12
Asenathubotu can you only SEE the files on the NTFS partition or also edit them then06:12
ubotuI'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, Asenath06:12
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tomb_Can anyone help me setup vncserver so I get a login screen when I connect to it06:12
AMDfanboyhowdy, i want to back up my evolution email.  in my home directory i found a folder called ".evolution" is that where my mail is?06:12
MindChildCan someone help me with remastering a livecd? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6859406:12
dylan_MindChild, so how do i change the speed....im burning qutie slowly compared to windows.06:12
AsenathOops haha06:12
shane24when I set up ubuntu, it never asked me for an admin password.  Now I cannot su because I don't know the pass.  Is there somewhere to set that?06:12
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puterfixergrrrr, can't compile, need kernel sources. darnit.06:12
Skidinstall em? :)06:12
jayson_IGnuKemist: it is compatible in ubuntu and WinXP?06:13
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Schpenkeshane24, use: sudo su -06:13
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GnuKemistjayson_I, yup...  I'm assuming you're talking about c# and monodevelop06:13
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MindChildshane24: Ubuntu doesnt use root.The first user can SUDO though, so sudo su06:13
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GnuKemistjayson_I, as a matter of fact, any non-GUI c# code you compile in Linux WILL run as-is in Windows06:14
thegeekdomI have an install question.  I have a ibm laptop with floppy and nic.  I want to get off the old slackware and on to ubuntu.  Without a CD, how do I do this.   I do have broadband.06:14
AMDfanboyi looked for mbox files but couldnt find anything, the files that look like they are my mail don't have mbox extensions06:14
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shane24sudu su?06:14
shane24sudo06:14
shane24cool, thanks06:15
dylan_how do i change the speed at which my CD burns?06:15
dbzdeathsudo -i06:15
dbzdeathworks06:15
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cyniclehow do you save text as a program? :S06:15
AMDfanboyhowdy, i want to back up my evolution email.  in my home directory i found a folder called ".evolution" is that where my mail is? - sorry to ask again06:16
dbzdeathcynicle: save it as a .sh?06:16
XoloXHi. Back already. Just tried applying the updates. I get the error "E: /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.08_all.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/X11/fonts', which is also in package xfonts-base". Any chance of me fixing this or should I just wait for the package to be fixed? If so, any chance of applying the remaining updates that don't depend on x-common?06:16
cyniclethanks06:16
zpaook, so i saw this asked above, but there was no response... can NTFS partitions be written in ubuntu?06:16
SeveasXoloX, dpkg -i --fix-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.08_all.deb06:17
dbzdeathzpao: you can have write access to a NTFS partition using captive ntfs06:17
Seveas--force-overwite i mean06:17
XoloXSeveas: Thanks, I'll try that06:17
cyniclei type in sudo bash winmac_fstab and it says no such file or directory, where should i be puting the program?06:17
thegeekdomI have an ibm laptop with a floppy and nic.  how do I install ubuntu on it ?06:17
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Seveasdbzdeath, did you ever get that to work on ubuntu?06:17
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Madeyeguys I have (dev/hda7) partition and /dev/hdb1/ another hdd, both are ext3 but both not mounted, any idea?06:17
dbzdeathSeveas: nope... thats why i never said in ubuntu :)06:17
nir-Seveas: is telnet daemon is installed by default ? and if yes how i can open it ?06:17
dbzdeathbut i never tried06:17
MindChildCan someone help me with remastering a livecd? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=68594 (I am desperate, so this message is on a timer)06:18
bystandernir-, no06:18
zpaodbzdeath: ah, so not in ubuntu is this really possible?06:18
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dbzdeathnir-: shouldn't use telnet.. unless absolutely necessary.. should use ssh instead06:18
dbzdeathzpao: it works in knoppix...06:18
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cyniclewhere is this bash folder?06:18
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Seveasnir-, it is not and don't install it06:18
Seveasuse ssh06:18
GnuKemistzpao, I've done it with knoppix and dsl06:19
tomb_Can anyone help me setup vncserver so I get a login screen when I connect to it06:19
masterra_Can anyone direct me to some info on getting sound working in gnome?06:19
Seveastomb_, use freenx for that06:19
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Seveasit kicks vncs ass06:19
dbzdeathtelnet = horrible :(06:19
GnuKemistmasterra_, don't mean to ask the obvious but... did you unmute the sound?06:19
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tomb_Seveas is it available via apt?06:20
cyniclewhat does this command line do sudo bash winmac_fstab06:20
cyniclewhere is that directory?06:20
Seveastomb_, hoary or breezy?06:20
tomb_hoary06:20
Seveasdeb http://ubuntulinux.nl/ ./06:20
AMDfanboyhowdy, i want to back up my evolution email.  in my home directory i found a folder called ".evolution" is that where my mail is? - sorry to ask again06:20
bystandercynicle, winmac_fstab is wherever you put it06:20
GnuKemistcynicle, the command runs the winmac_fstab script06:20
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dbzdeathtomb_: tightvnc-server ? i think the package is called... i use tightvnc06:20
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GnuKemistcynicle, it assumes the script is at the same folder level you are06:21
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dbzdeathtightvncserver my bad06:21
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esachow do i get into text mode in order to install nvidia driver06:21
XoloXSeveas: Thanks alot, it *seems* to be fixed06:21
cyniclewhy does it say no such file or directory then?06:21
stpereesac, press CTRL+ALT+F106:21
cynicleim confused06:21
tomb_trying this freenx first :)06:21
masterra_GnuKemist: well, the sound control on the top gnome panel has an X by it, and when i click it it says "no volume control devices were found"06:21
TTilusAMDfanboy: don't really know, but i would guess that not06:21
GnuKemistesac, there's no need though06:21
bystandercynicle, because you are in the wrong directory06:22
dbzdeathindeed06:22
GnuKemistesac, I'm sure you can just apt-get it06:22
dbzdeathinstall the ubuntu package06:22
dbzdeathdon't manually install it06:22
cynicleso where do i put the file?06:22
neulingis there any possibility to install w32codecs on breezy?06:22
TTilusAMDfanboy: you can found your mail propably from ~/Mail ~/mail ~/Maildir or something like that06:22
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GnuKemistneuling, yes06:22
esacGnuKemist: i built my own kernel, i have to make sure it compiles clean with this kernel config06:22
dbzdeathneuling: if your on i386 then yes06:22
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TTilusAMDfanboy: .evolution holds propably evolution settings06:22
jayson_IGnuKemist: I'm trying now to read the facts about monoDevelop06:22
dbzdeathneuling: just add the hoary-extras repository06:22
GnuKemistesac, follow stpere's advice06:23
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MindChildCan someone help me with remastering a livecd? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=68594 (I am desperate, so this message is on a timer)06:23
TTilusAMDfanboy: you may want to back it up too  :D06:23
neulingok, thanks (yes, it is i386)06:23
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jayson_Ico'z i'm migrating now to ubuntu from winXP06:23
dbzdeathneuling: it is a hoary package... but should work06:23
cyniclei got it thanks bystander06:23
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jayson_Ii'm finding now a replacement to my VB6/.NET.06:24
GnuKemistjayson_I, I haven't used monodevelop at the moment b/c it depends on some bleeding edge mono stuff which I haven't gotten to work yet06:24
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GnuKemistjayson_I, but it will in stable06:24
apsynchi, how can I know how much memory (RAM) I have?06:24
Skidok quick question, how can I SOLEY update apt ?06:24
dbzdeathapsync: free -m06:24
GnuKemistjayson_I, mono has VB.NET compiler too06:24
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jayson_Iwhat's? cool..06:25
jayson_I:)06:25
GnuKemistjayson_I, hehehe06:25
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GnuKemistjayson_I, c# compiler:  mcs   vb.net: mbas06:25
jayson_Ihow about eclipse.. i cannot found any screen shoots06:25
GnuKemistjayson_I, haven't used eclipse but have you tried google images?06:25
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zenodo you know the port of this server to use SSL?06:25
tomb_Seveas, what do I do once freenx is installed?06:26
Seveastomb_, sudo nxserver --adduser $USER06:26
GnuKemisttomb_, man freenx?06:26
Seveastomb_, sudo nxserver --passwd $USER06:26
Seveasand download an NX client from nomachine.com on the machine you want to connect from06:26
dbzdeathzeno: 6668 i think?06:26
cyniclehey can anyone tell me how this program works http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab06:26
cyniclehow do i look at all my files after running it06:26
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zenodbzdeath: do you think or do you know?06:27
dbzdeathzeno: its a guess lol06:27
Seveascynicle, that thing mounts your windows drives in /mnt06:27
Seveassorry in /media06:27
zenodbzdeath: generally the port is 999906:27
jayson_IGnuKemist: ok i will try to find06:27
bystandercynicle, Places - Computer06:27
cynicleahh thanks06:27
dbzdeathzeno: most of the irc servers i go on use 6668 *shrugs*06:27
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MindChildCan someone help me with remastering a livecd? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=68594 (I am desperate, so this message is on a timer)06:28
zenodbzdeath tnx06:28
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zenoi'll try06:28
jayson_IGnuKemist: what language they are used to develop monoDevelop?06:28
dbzdeathya worth a shot06:28
kemik6667-6669 is standard06:28
kemikzeno:  9999 is not a standard irc-port afaik06:28
Seveaskemik, it is for IRC-ssl06:28
kemiknot for ssl or regular connections06:28
GnuKemistjayson_I, entirely c# written06:28
kemikwasnt it 7000 ?06:28
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GnuKemistjayson_I, ;)06:28
zenokemik: 9999 is for SSL06:28
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GnuKemistjayson_I, http://lemonodor.com/archives/images/eclipse-lisp-2.jpg06:29
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ompauldbzdeath, usually the client knocks on 6667 and gets told the port to use usually 6667/8/9/7006:29
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cynicleok now how do i make shortcuts on the desktop in ubuntu06:29
dylan_why use linux over mac os x?06:29
sorush20the update to breezy is taking a very long time...06:29
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kemikhmmm06:29
Juhazdylan_, because we like getting trolled by people like you06:30
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apokryphossorush20: install or download?06:30
dbzdeath[00:29]  --- Connection failed. Error: (336130315) error:1408F10B:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_RECORD:wrong version number06:30
dbzdeath[00:29]  Are you sure this is a SSL capable server and port?06:30
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dylan_Juhaz, im really sorry...ill leave06:30
TokenBadwhat is command in ubuntu to remove a dir and all its sub dirs?06:30
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apokryphosTokenBad: rm06:30
blekosgrrr...06:30
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GnuKemistcynicle, right-click desktop --> create launcher06:30
dbzdeathTokenBad: rm -r06:30
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cynicleok then what06:30
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GnuKemistfollow the screen dude06:30
blekosi've followed every single instruction and installed everything needed (i think)06:30
GnuKemistcynicle, follow the screen dude06:30
bystandercynicle, type in the command for your program06:30
blekoswhen I play a divx and ff it loses sync06:31
jayson_IGnuKemist: how about eclipse what langauge are they using?06:31
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dbzdeathzeno: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml06:31
blekoswhen i try to play a DVD it lags...06:31
blekosany ideas?06:31
GnuKemistjayson_I, I'm pretty sure it is all java06:31
bystandercynicle, to choose an icon clickthe icon box06:31
zenodbzdeath: tnx very much... i'm just reading it06:31
kemikeclipse is written in java06:31
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dbzdeathDoes freenode provide SSL-based client access?  Not at present. We did have a server set up as a testbed for a while, but we probably won't provide SSL on a consistent basis until we can provide end-to-end encryption.06:31
GnuKemistblekos, which app are you using?06:31
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dbzdeathno ssl .. sorry06:31
blekostotem...06:31
cyniclesorry im a noob i got it06:31
apsynchi, can I see the Temperature somewhere in linux of my cpu?06:31
GnuKemistblekos, try it with xine06:31
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KiraI need help with the Wiki.06:31
zenoapsync: acpi -t06:32
GnuKemistblekos, totem also lags here06:32
apsyncthanks06:32
pudlandblekos:  sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdd06:32
jayson_Imaybe it alot cool the monoDevelop rather than eclipse06:32
KiraI just created a new account and I think I need to give it my public key.06:32
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GnuKemistjayson_I, a newer interface for .NET is in development as we type06:32
pudlandblekos:  the above worked 100% for me06:32
jayson_IGnuKemist: co'z it is more easy to develop in VB lang rather than C lang.06:32
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MindChildCan someone help me with remastering a livecd? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=68594 (I am desperate, so this message is on a timer)06:33
blekosi'll give it a shot06:33
GnuKemistjayson_I, I happen to think the opposite06:33
dbzdeathpython > VB :P06:33
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kemikactually it seems that 994 is the "standard" IRC-ssl port06:33
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esacok you cant use ctrl+alt+f1 to install nvidia. it needs no X running session. how can i get into plain text mode06:33
Seveastimers /repeating are so not allowed in here..06:33
pudlandblekos:  i had to do that for xine06:33
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GnuKemistjayson_I, and (c#) it will give you a chance for true portability06:33
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dbzdeathkemik: but no one uses it :P06:33
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blekosis it DL?06:33
pgavinis anyone having trouble with getting gnome to start in freenx? I can get kde to start, but not gnome06:33
cyniclei went to create launcher but it wants to launch a program, i just want a link to open up a folder06:33
blekosdl06:33
jayson_IGnuKemist: here in philippine the microsoft attack the internet cafe and offices they confiscate and they charge a penalty for the pirated winXP06:33
blekoswhat does it do?06:34
GnuKemistjayson_I, ouch06:34
esacjayson_I: good for them06:34
jayson_Iso internet cafe's now are switching linux distribution now here06:34
bystanderSeveas, might have been a nice gesture to ask him yo turn it off before banning him...06:34
kemikdbzdeath:  mmh, i've only seen 7k ports for SSL ;) and i saw 3 servers use 9999, but never been on those networks ;)06:34
GnuKemistesac, I believe you can use telinit06:34
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KiraWhat kind of key pair do I need for the Ubuntu wiki?06:34
Seveasbystander, it wasn't a ban, just a mute06:34
esacGnuKemist: already tried it , cant get it to work06:34
KiraDSA and Elgamal, DSA, or RSA?06:34
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Seveastoo bad freenode now shows them as bans06:34
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kemik+b seem to be mute on freenode06:34
dbzdeathkemik: i've never seen the 'standard' port used before :)06:34
kemikfreenode is weird :)06:34
SeveasKira, for the wiki you need no gpg key...06:34
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pudlandblekos: no its number 106:35
jayson_Ihere in tacloban there is now more 10 big internet cafe now are switching linux distribution06:35
GnuKemistesac, try to press CTRL + ALT + BACKSPACE several times06:35
kemikdbzdeath:  me neither :) ... but i had to google for it to see ;)06:35
cynicledoes anyone know how to create a shortcut to open up a folder and display its contents?06:35
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GnuKemistesac, it WILL take you to console mode eventually06:35
esacGnuKemist: already did, keeps going back into gdm no matter how many times i press it06:35
jayson_Iuser's are now convensing to try linux OS.06:35
WebLOCHIs Rythymbox in the repositories?06:35
kemikpretty wide mask O_o06:35
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Seveasjayson_I, lol, good for MS politics :)06:35
kemikWebLOCH:  it should be yes ;)06:35
GnuKemistjayson_I, woot then...  M$ is actually helping then06:36
SeveasWebLOCH, yes06:36
WebLOCHI cant find it06:36
WebLOCHDo you know the package name?06:36
Seveas!info rhythmbox06:36
uboturhythmbox: (music player and organizer for GNOME), section gnome, is optional. Version: 0.8.8-7ubuntu5 (hoary), Packaged size: 1517 kB, Installed size: 4268 kB06:36
kemikWebLOCH:  use "apt-cache search <keyword>"06:36
jayson_Ieach internet cafe have atleast 100+ PC each branch06:36
GnuKemistesac, can you ssh to it?06:36
WebLOCHkemik, thats what i tried06:36
KiraSeveas: in Launchpad it says I need the gpg key to sign the Ubuntu Code of Conduct. o.O06:36
pudlandblekos:  if i remember correctly it sets the read ahead larger06:36
SeveasKira, ah, but that's not the wiki :)06:36
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SeveasKira, read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto06:36
FR500hi06:36
blekosi c06:37
kemikWebLOCH:  check your spelling06:37
dbzdeathjayson_I: i hope they aren't switching to redhat :P06:37
XoloXUhm, I just tried out the "System / Administration / Boot" tool, and it deleted my Windows entries in "/boot/grub/menu.lst"... Didn't even save a backup file it seems... Where am I to report this bug?06:37
WebLOCHkemik, i did twice06:37
jayson_Iso maybe I will introduce them to switch ubuntu co'z it more easy to manage and to navigate06:37
FR500i created a new user, but it doesn't have sound, how can i fix it06:37
WebLOCHahh right06:37
WebLOCHodd, it seems to think its installed06:37
zenodbzdeath: freenode servers don't use SSL :(06:37
GnuKemistjayson_I, and it rocks too06:37
kemikWebLOCH:  it's called "music player" inthe menu06:37
dbzdeathzeno:  i know i said that earlier06:37
GnuKemistjayson_I, ;)06:37
apsynccan I burn files from a ntfs hd, with no problems?06:37
kemikWebLOCH:  Apps>>sound&stuff>Music Player06:37
XoloXFR500: Add it to the sound/audio/???  group?06:37
jayson_IGnuKemist: what you think i can help now ubuntu?06:37
SeveasFR500, give the user more privileges in the users admin06:37
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dbzdeathapsync: ntfs reading is fully supported... so yes06:38
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kemikWebLOCH:  and it IS in the repos... "apt-cache search rhytmbox" make sure you have the repos added and updated06:38
apsynccool, Ok06:38
GnuKemistjayson_I, how about helping out with the translation team?06:38
bluekeyanyone want to help me get madwifi working on my haory06:38
Cyniclehey does anyone know how to make a shortcut to a folder?06:38
XoloXhehe06:38
FR500Seveas: it has access to everything but fax06:38
WebLOCHkemik, do and have done06:38
jayson_IGnuKemist: I cannot handle with now co'z i'm developing now a system in one company here.06:38
SeveasWebLOCH, apps -> audio video -> music player06:38
GnuKemistesac, can you ssh to it?06:38
Seveasthat is rhythmbox :)06:39
WebLOCHits not listed06:39
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WebLOCHbut its installed06:39
jayson_Ii'm just only one developing.06:39
GnuKemistjayson_I, in VB.NET?06:39
WebLOCHsdame thing happened with opera06:39
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WebLOCHit was already installed06:39
tomb_blah06:39
jayson_Imybe if i have spare time.06:39
WebLOCHbut not listed06:39
XoloXSo no any one has any idea on the boot tool? --> "Uhm, I just tried out the "System / Administration / Boot" tool, and it deleted my Windows entries in "/boot/grub/menu.lst"... Didn't even save a backup file it seems... Where am I to report this bug?"06:39
WebLOCHGnuKemist, I've done some VB.net whats up ?06:39
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jayson_Ii'm already now in 60%.06:39
SeveasXoloX, what did you do that caused the deletion?06:39
GnuKemistWebLOCH, am a .NET developer myself... just asking jayson_I something related to his job  ;)06:40
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XoloXI changed the label on two W2K boot entries that were added by the 5.10 installer06:40
jayson_Iif i will finish i can more focus in translating.06:40
WebLOCHGnuKemist,  ahh fair enough, Im working in C# mostly06:40
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SeveasGnuKemist, WebLOCH, jayson_I can you take this off-topic discussion to the off-topic channel please06:40
Ivan_Dragohi!06:40
GnuKemistWebLOCH, so am I... GUI mostly though06:40
_icebreaker__i have a problem with starting x after updateing ubuntu06:40
XoloXThrough the boottoolin the GNOME menu that is06:40
GnuKemistSeveas, np06:40
Ivan_Dragohow to get an ISA-based sound card to work with ubuntu?06:41
test34XoloX, did the same to me, eveytime it updates the kernel06:41
GnuKemistSeveas, jayson_I had asked about IDEs for programming under Ubuntu06:41
SeveasXoloX, that's odd indeed, best is to report it at both the ubuntu bugzilla with a clear description06:41
_icebreaker__x starts but after showing the nvidia logo it stop witch an error message06:41
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kemikWebLOCH:  that sounds weird.. even tho it's installed, the apt-cache search should "reveal it"06:41
XoloXOK, it might indeed have been the update that I ran, it did install a new kernel06:41
pudlandhaving upgrade probs with Moz-Firefox, any ideas06:42
XoloXSo that is probably it06:42
Seveastest34, do not edit between BEGINA AUTOMAGIC KERNEL LIST and END AUTOMAGIC KERNEL LIST06:42
jayson_IGnuKemist: i cannot found any IDE in ubuntu mostly are in command line06:42
GnuKemist_icebreaker_, tried checking the log file?06:42
kemikpudland:  topic06:42
Seveasand you probably should not move anything there with the gnome util too06:42
kemikwhy doesnt ppl *Ever* read channel topics?06:42
Seveaspudland, /topic06:42
kemik*its what it's there for!"06:42
sorush20apokryphos: download..06:42
test34Seveas, I use the boot tool to add the partition, and the first time it was deleted, it was added by the ubuntu installer06:42
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_icebreaker__GnuKemist i made that but i don't know where the problem is06:42
pudlandduh, i didnt see that.  thanks06:42
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WebLOCHkemik, whats worse is rhythm box wont play06:42
Cynicleomfg wats with the music player not playing god damn mp3z?06:42
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Cynicleits like the only music format i have06:43
SeveasCynicle, language..06:43
GnuKemist_icebreaker_, should be towards the bottom of the file06:43
WebLOCHkemik, it states there is no resource for writing output06:43
Seveas!mp306:43
uboturumour has it, mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support06:43
kemikWebLOCH:  got gstreamer0.8-mad ?06:43
WebLOCHyup06:43
bystander!tell Cynicle about mp306:43
kemikWebLOCH:  aha.. sounds like it's not configured correctly then..06:43
jayson_IGnuKemist: maybe if i will finish my job I can help to monoDelep to develop.06:43
Cyniclehuh?06:43
XoloXSeveas, where can I best put the /boot/grub/menu.lst entries if I don't want them to disappear? (Note though that the ones that were there were added by the installer, not me, hence I have no idea were in the file they were added)06:43
WebLOCHKemik... how ... were?  do i start ?06:43
GnuKemist_icebreaker_, most of the time it has something to do with the screen resolutions you chose?06:43
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bystanderCynicle, *read* the page - it tells you what to do06:44
kemikWebLOCH:  you using Hoary and the soundserver ?06:44
jayson_Iso .net in Win can now match to linux. :006:44
WebLOCHhoary yes06:44
jayson_I:)06:44
WebLOCHsoundserver what ?06:44
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SeveasXoloX, the menu.lst has a ## BEGIN DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNEL LIST and an ## END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNEL LIST line06:44
Seveasdon't put anything between these lines06:44
kemikWebLOCH:  System->prefs->sound06:44
XoloXOK06:44
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kemiksound is a big issue in linux06:44
blekoshow can i kill a process?06:44
_icebreaker__GnuKemist but it shows the nvidia logo...06:44
kemiki *hate* it06:44
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Cyniclebystander, i dont understand06:44
Drakesonhow can I change date and time in a text based way? using "date" is the way?06:45
tomb_ffs06:45
XoloXSeveas, I owe you :), thanks for easing the Ubuntu transition06:45
kemikdont see why noone develops a wrapper for OSS/ESD/ALSA or whatever06:45
GnuKemist_icebreaker_, paste the end of your log in #flood06:45
bystanderCynicle, what don't you understand ?06:45
Seveaskemik, esd is the wrapper...06:45
GnuKemistblekos, check out the kill command06:45
kemikSeveas:  well it's not working :)06:45
Cyniclebystander, how to add codecs06:45
CryptidPlease Help me on booting i am not getting my GDM login screen but i am getting the terminal login screen what do i do ????? please help Is there a way i can restore my computer to a previous time????06:45
Seveasbut lots of progeams don't use it06:45
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SeveasCynicle, read that wikipage06:45
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thegeekdomHey, can I do a "boot from floppy install with this howto ?  I do not have a CD rom on this at all:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot06:45
WebLOCHkemik, it states it is enabled at startup06:45
SeveasCryptid, what did you do before this happened?06:46
WebLOCHkemik, i should metion that xmms plays fine and that i just wanted to try rythm06:46
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GnuKemistblekos, sudo ps aux |grep [program name]  will tell you the ID for the program06:46
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jayson_IGnuKemist: how can i view the requirements for monoDevelop?06:46
GnuKemistblekos, then you can sudo kill -9 [id] 06:46
CryptidSeveas, i had installed gdesklet and ICE some thing i dunno what these are but i installed them06:46
helpmewhere can i find freerocks gnome? it it a theme or new gnome?06:46
kemikWebLOCH:  mmh.. well i dunno what's wrong... not meddled to much with the sound-issue... cus it's working here (even to sound-mixing isnt working too good)06:47
jayson_IGnuKemist: i'm also now downloding a ubuntu 5.10 right now. :)06:47
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shaoqi_hi. how can i find out how much disk space is left on my hdd? thanks06:47
apokryphosshaoqi_: df -h06:47
bystandershaoqi_, df -h06:47
dacrepairhow can i change my screen res06:47
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apokryphosdacrepair: /msg ubotu resolution06:47
jayson_Icoz'my 5.4 was lost in my CD organizer.06:47
WebLOCHjayson_I, I would advice you stop06:47
GnuKemistdacrepair, System -- Prefs  -- Screen Res06:48
dacrepairah06:48
dacrepairthanks06:48
Cyniclebystander, where do i add the line of code into the program? anywhere and do i add the update lines?06:48
GnuKemistdacrepair, np  ;)06:48
jayson_IWebLOCH: ok ;p06:48
dacrepairok06:48
dacrepairnow i only have 1 resolution06:48
WebLOCHjayson_I,  5.10 is unstable and not particularly forthcomming06:48
kemiki sure hope the new ATI drivers in breezy will support VideoModeOverlay06:48
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_icebreaker__GnuKemist: Must there be a fontserver running?06:48
kemikjayson_I:  wait with breezy till 13oct06:49
GnuKemistdacrepair, not sure if there's a GUI for setting up the resolutions...  you may have to tweak xorg.conf06:49
helpmewhats freerocks gnome?06:49
CryptidSeves, do u know what the problem is can u help me restore my computer back to normal coz i have lots of important data on my disc or is there a way i can burn my important data from Terminal06:49
GnuKemist_icebreaker_, not sure... my guess would be yes06:49
dacrepairthanks i remember my buddie mentioning that06:49
jayson_Iok what is my thing to do now?06:49
dacrepairi tried it06:49
dacrepairthen it couldent find my mouse06:49
dacrepairgrrr06:49
KiraHas somebody made PPPoE work on a wlan connection?06:49
blekosthnx06:50
_icebreaker__GnuKemist can i sned you the last 20lines of my log file06:50
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GnuKemistdacrepair, try a conservative resolution...06:50
KiraIt's one of the few things that's preventing me from doing a complete switch from Windows to Ubuntu on my laptop.06:50
dacrepairlike06:50
GnuKemist_icebreaker_, sure thing06:50
CryptidSeveas, do u know what the problem is can u help me restore my computer back to normal coz i have lots of important data on my disc or is there a way i can burn my important data from Terminal06:50
jayson_Ii'm planning now to download the 5.4, it's OK?06:50
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GnuKemistjayson_I, 5.04 is more than ok  ;)06:51
dacrepairi dont care06:51
dacrepairi freaking hate 640x48006:51
dacrepaireww06:51
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_icebreaker__GnuKemist do you know how to query out of bitchx06:51
GnuKemistdacrepair, try to hard code 1024xwhatever06:51
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dacrepairok06:51
jayson_IGnuKemist: OK i will try to download now simultaneously to the 5.1006:51
GnuKemist_icebreaker_, how do you mean?06:52
jayson_Iby the way where i can download more faster?06:52
dacrepairdo you know where my usbmouse is "located"06:52
jayson_Iany mirror have fast connection?06:52
GnuKemistdacrepair, the device itself?06:52
dacrepairso i dont fuxxor my xorg AGAIN06:52
dacrepairno in the software06:52
dacrepairlike /dev...06:52
GnuKemistdacrepair, right06:53
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Chii_Chanick.... just finished reinstalling linux as I managed to kill my networking o.o06:53
^DodGeR^/dev/input or /dev/mice maybe ?06:53
GnuKemistdacrepair, not sure... someone can confirm if it is /dev/psaux?06:54
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hoslerWhere can I find a good graphical interface for TOR?06:54
dacrepairis therer a way to see?06:54
misfit_toy/dev/input mice06:54
misfit_toy/dev/input/mice06:54
dacrepairok06:54
^DodGeR^maybe cat /dev/input/mice and move mouse to see it anything comes back ?06:55
jayson_IGnuKemist: I'm order to ship with me a CD, it's my first time to do it06:55
Cyniclei installed the plugins off the website but it still wont play mp3s, can anyone please help me06:55
_icebreaker__$test=/exec tail -n 20 /var/log/Xorg.0.log06:55
zenohosler: why do you need a giu for tor?06:55
jayson_Ihow many day it will ship it to me?06:55
zeno*giu=gui06:55
kemikCryptid:  try "startx" from the terminal06:55
GnuKemist_icebreaker_, check your priv msg06:55
jayson_Iin here in the phillipines.06:55
GnuKemistjayson_I, should not be a problem06:55
GnuKemistjayson_I, they'll ship it to the moon if needed06:56
jayson_I;p06:56
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Cynicleahhh why cant i play mp3z06:56
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jayson_Ihow can i know if they already ship it to me?06:56
GnuKemist_icebreaker_, you need to add the -o parameter to your command06:56
zenoCynicle: what's the problem with mp3?06:56
GnuKemist_icebreaker_, but send it to me in priv06:56
hoslerzeno: i dont know, haha06:56
jayson_IGnuKemist: Did you try already?06:56
zenohosler: :)06:56
twoSharpCynicle, install the gstreamer-mad package from universe repository06:57
dacrepairok06:57
GnuKemistjayson_I, absolutely06:57
zenohosler: is very quick to configure06:57
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jayson_IGnuKemist: how about the shipping fee?06:57
jayson_Iit cost a lot?06:57
GnuKemistjayson_I, read the page... there is none06:57
CynicletwoSharp, whats is universe repository? and how do i get there06:57
hoslerzeno: i have it all configured, its just that sometimes when I run at school it does not work. I know that my school's firewall only allows port 80 connection, and I have that setup in my config file. I dont know why it wont work sometimes.06:57
CryptidKemik will this work?? does it do the same thing as X06:58
bystander!tell Cynicle about repos06:58
zenoCynicle: if you use xmms just select the proper output source (esd)06:58
Cyniclebystander, what does that mean06:58
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Cyniclezeno, huh?06:58
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bystanderCynicle, read your private messages06:58
Cynicleguys im a total noob06:58
_icebreaker__Warning: font renderer for ".snf.Z" already registered at priority 006:58
_icebreaker__Warning: font renderer for ".snf.gz" already registered at priority 006:58
_icebreaker__Warning: font renderer for ".bdf" already registered at priority 006:58
_icebreaker__Warning: font renderer for ".bdf.Z" already registered at priority 006:58
_icebreaker__Warning: font renderer for ".bdf.gz" already registered at priority 006:58
_icebreaker__Warning: font renderer for ".pmf" already registered at priority 006:59
_icebreaker__Could not init font path element unix/:7100, removing from list!06:59
_icebreaker__   *** If unresolved symbols were reported above, they might not06:59
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_icebreaker__   *** be the reason for the server aborting.06:59
_icebreaker__Fatal server error:06:59
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_icebreaker__Caught signal 11.  Server aborting06:59
zenoCynicle: go to "preferences" of xmms06:59
_icebreaker__Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support06:59
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_icebreaker__ at http://wiki.X.Org06:59
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_icebreaker__ for help.06:59
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twoSharpCynicle,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats06:59
_icebreaker__Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional information.06:59
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SeveasDAMNIT06:59
borgistaHelo. How would I set the IP of ath0 to 192.168.0.3?06:59
borgistaIt's a wireless card.06:59
borgistaHello*06:59
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Cyniclezeno, what is xmms06:59
zenoCynicle: xmms is a music player06:59
jayson_Iabout the firewall of ubuntu how can i configure it ?07:00
hoslerborgista: network-admin can do that, but its not that good.07:00
Seveasjayson_I, man iptables07:00
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twoSharpCynicle,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats is a guide on how to get things like mp3 to work...07:00
Seveasor install firestarter/shorewall07:00
dacrepairno07:00
dacrepairgrr07:00
dacrepairbastard07:00
Cyniclezeno, i dont think i have it07:00
dacrepairi opened ssh to a friend07:00
zenoCynicle: it's not possible07:00
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bystanderCynicle, read the links at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation  << you need to do some reading07:00
dacrepairand he fork bombed me07:00
zenoCynicle: open a terminal and type xmms07:00
dacrepairgrr07:00
hoslerzeno: should i run tor as root?07:00
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dacrepairno i gotta restart THEN xorg07:01
zenohosler: i don't think so07:01
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misfit_toydacrepair, some friend07:01
kemikCryptid:  try ut07:01
GnuKemisthehe07:01
hoslerzeno: do you know of any good nodes that run on port 80 that i can start my onion route on?07:01
matrixhow do i switch directories in console ?07:01
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dacrepairthanks for your help GnuKemist and misfit_toy07:01
kemikCryptid:  i cant know *beforehand* since i dont know what you've done with your system07:01
misfit_toynp07:01
GnuKemistdacrepair, np  ;)07:01
dacrepairok07:02
dacrepairseeya07:02
zenohosler: no, i'm sorry07:02
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hoslerok07:02
matrix...?07:02
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linnermaxtrix did you get your unrar to work for you?07:02
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Cyniclezeno, it says not found07:02
matrixyeah i did07:02
hoslermisfit_toy: breezy works great fo rme.07:02
kemikhehe "man iptables" now that's a fun read :|07:02
linnermatrix, good!!!07:02
Chii_Chanbreezy isnt that bad07:02
matrixthanks for the help btw07:02
matrix:)07:02
zenoCynicle: type in a terminale: "apt-get xmms"07:02
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linnermatrix, that's what everyone's here for... to help each other :)07:03
kemikmatrix:  what was wrong with unrar?07:03
bystanderzeno, erm, no07:03
Chii_ChanI started up with that, and the only error I ran into was the one I created when I deleted something I shouldnt've07:03
matrixi wasn't doing it in cmd line07:03
Cyniclezeno, it says invalid opperation07:03
linnermatrix, i can't even get the darned the to load on my lap top... 6 times and no love for linner ;)07:03
zenoCynicle: type in a terminale: "sudo apt-get xmms"07:03
bystanderCynicle,  sudo apt-get install xmms07:03
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zenowow shit! bad mistake07:03
matrixlol =] 07:03
bystanderzeno, wrong again07:03
kemikmatrix:  but i told you to O_o ;)07:03
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matrixyeah u did07:03
zenoit's because i have a alias to apt line ... install etc07:04
matrixdo u guys ever sleep :07:04
zeno<bystander> zeno, wrong again :)07:04
linnermatrix, i went to bed this morning at 4am...07:04
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dacrepairhey07:04
matrixi went at 607:04
dacrepairbtw07:04
linnermatrix, and was up at 9am because it's buggin' me to much07:04
linnermatrix, so you're just as guilty!07:04
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Cyniclezeno, ok its installing07:04
dacrepairhow do i change my xorg?07:04
matrixlol07:04
Cyniclebystander, thanks07:04
kemikit's 1900 here so im nowhere near sleepy07:04
zenoCynicle: after the installing07:04
dacrepairlike whats the command07:04
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zenowrite my name here07:05
zenoi'll help you07:05
dacrepair                        zeno07:05
misfit_toydacrepair, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:05
GnuKemistdacrepair, you could do it manually...  sudo gedit [path to xorg.conf] 07:05
dacrepairah07:05
dacrepairtoo far07:05
derek[] launchpad.net07:05
derek[] :/07:05
dacrepairhi derek07:05
bystanderCynicle, first thing you do is right click the xmms window, options - prefs - look for the output plugin and set it to esound07:05
derek[] the older user accounts are washed out?07:05
derek[] hi dacrepair07:05
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dacrepairyeah07:05
derek[] dang07:06
jayson_IGnuKemist: now i can more spend time in mono rather than MS.net07:06
srossihi07:06
dacrepairmy name is derek07:06
jayson_I;) tnx07:06
derek[] :)07:06
GnuKemistbystander, any reason not to use ALSA?07:06
derek[] dacrepair, mine is just a nick here07:06
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derek[too] oh07:06
derek[too] heh07:06
derek[too] i know thats what i'm saying07:06
bystanderGnuKemist, trust me, esound is the best thing totry first07:06
GnuKemistjayson_I, my advice is to stop the Mono talk here and send me a priv msg about it07:06
derek[] k07:06
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derek[too] my nick on protium is derek or dacrepair07:06
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SpudULikeWhat GUI tools arew there to help me configure what services get started at boot time.  Being a refugee from Suse we used to have a Yast module for this.07:07
GnuKemistbystander, will take your word for it even though alsa works here07:07
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misfit_toyspeaking of Mono, does anyone's beagle work?07:07
misfit_toyin breezy?07:07
bystanderGnuKemist, esd does weird things to xmms - we see it all the time07:07
derek[too] when is breezys official release date?07:07
hoslerdoes anyone know of any good TOR nodes that use port 80/443 that i can use for entry nodes?07:07
cyphaseOct. 1307:07
derek[too] cool07:07
derek[too] i'm running the beta07:07
derek[too] and its ok07:08
GnuKemistmisfit_toy, try #ubuntu-mono07:08
derek[too] but it doesnt have all of the features the official one has07:08
GnuKemistjayson_I, try #ubuntu-mono too07:08
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Cyniclebystander, now that ive installed the program how do i run it ?07:09
jayson_IGnuKemist: y you leave?07:09
Cyniclebystander, wait i got it07:09
bystanderCynicle, it should be in your menu07:09
matrixok so how do i change directories in terminal ?07:09
linnerok ya'll ... i have to scoot... good futher luck matrix :)07:09
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linnerI'll be back later on...07:09
matrixlater07:09
bystanderCynicle, do change theoutput plugin first to avoid freezes07:09
GnuKemistmatrix, cd to it07:10
emilematrix: cd (change directory)07:10
matrixO.o07:10
Cyniclebystander, done. what does the output plugin do?07:10
matrixjust plain cd?07:10
GnuKemistmatrix, cd [folder name] 07:11
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matrixhow about cd (drive name)  ?07:11
GnuKemistmatrix, use the full path to the directory for now07:11
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bystanderCynicle, in oversimplified terms  - directs the output to the esound daemon (which is the ubuntu default)07:11
GnuKemistmatrix, you're thinking of windows ;)07:11
matrixhow so ?07:11
GnuKemistmatrix, cd /media/[drive] 07:11
matrixO.o07:11
matrixty07:12
GnuKemistmatrix, you wanted to do cd d:?07:12
matrixnope07:12
matrixnot my drive name07:12
jayson_IGnuKemist: y you leave in ubuntu-mono?07:12
GnuKemistmatrix, my bad07:12
njakmatrix: go&fuck your mum07:12
derek[too] ok apparently its already configed for my vid card07:12
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derek[too] but still it wont let me change07:12
bystandernjak, language07:12
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emilenjak: watch your language please07:12
GnuKemistjayson_I, b/c I didn't know you wanted to talk to me specifically(sp)07:13
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matrixwhy i gotta go fuck my mom :|07:13
bystander!tell njak about coc07:13
derek[too] can someone help me hard code resolution support07:13
anti-net_Hi, anyone here know if webmin will work ok in ubuntu?07:13
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njakmatrix: cause you've fucked your dad07:13
jayson_IGnuKemist: ah ok07:13
jbroome*sniff* i smell a kick coming07:14
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GnuKemistderek[too] , sudo gedit /etc/Xorg/xorg.conf07:14
matrixi thought this was a help channel and this disgrace to humanity is in here telling me to fuck my mom07:14
derek[too] i did07:14
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derek[too] it wont let me07:14
tristanmikenjak, no need for that language07:14
GnuKemistderek[too] , did you sudo it?07:14
chrissturmhow do i use the video out with fglrx?07:15
GnuKemistderek[too] , sudo gedit /etc/Xorg/xorg.conf07:15
derek[too] no i'm in root07:15
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njaktristanmike: go and fuck allah!07:15
GnuKemistderek[too] , gedit /etc/Xorg/xorg.conf07:15
matrixroot@ool-45774c8b:~ # cd /media/Jump Drive07:15
matrixbash: cd: /media/Jump: No such file or directory07:15
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derek[too] i did07:15
emilecan someone please remove njak from the channel?07:15
matrixthats what i get when i type that07:15
GnuKemistderek[too] , what is the error?07:15
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derek[too] hang on07:15
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GnuKemistmatrix, is Jump the full name?07:16
chrissturmhow do i use the video out with fglrx?07:16
njakemile: no, but you must suck my dick and than you can ban me07:16
njakfuck you07:16
matrixnope  if u look at it i typed jump drive07:16
tristanmikenjak, you can show your ignorance by cursing and verbally abusing people in here, but it won't get you anywhere, but banned07:16
derek[too] (gedit:8528): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:07:16
derek[too] Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.07:16
njaktristanmike: go and fuck allah!07:16
njaktristanmike: go and fuck allah!07:16
njaktristanmike: go and fuck allah!07:16
jbroomei think he's a bot!07:16
tristanmikenjak, who is this allah you speak of?07:16
derek[too] kiick please07:16
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derek[too] possible07:17
derek[too] thanks07:17
ooloneveryone has an ignore option07:17
tristanmikemerci07:17
matrixJump Drive is the full name of my drive07:17
derek[too] anyways07:17
GnuKemistderek[too] , not sure but you can try sudo nano -w /etc/Xorg/xorg.conf07:17
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derek[too] ok07:17
GnuKemistmatrix, cd /media/Jump\ Drive07:17
derek[too] i did that07:17
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derek[too] its doing that07:18
GnuKemistderek[too] ,  modify it and save it by clicking CTRL - X07:18
derek[too] i did07:18
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GnuKemistderek[too] ,  then YES07:18
emilenjak was (i=igor_242@212.200.124.81) joj [i=igor_242@212.200.125.83] 07:18
matrixO.o btw my jump drive shows on my desktop so, i got that error again07:18
derek[too] it uses the module for my card07:18
derek[too] i restarted07:18
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derek[too] then i STILL cant change it07:19
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ompauloolon, but they should not have to use ignore, and check out the code of conduct for here  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/document_view - part of ubuntu07:19
GnuKemistderek[too] , weird07:19
derek[too] is there a code to "force 1024x768"?07:19
GnuKemistmatrix, if you can navigate to it via the desktop icon, there shouldn't be a reason for not doing the same via the command line07:20
HiddenFlyis gftp able to handle SFTP?07:20
derek[too] yes07:20
derek[too] it should07:20
jojmatrix: what's up, motherfucker ?07:20
HiddenFlygood thanks07:20
oolonompaul, i know but it's better then engaging the idiots :)07:20
ompauljoj, language07:20
derek[too] hiddenfly: yes it should07:20
oolonompaul, he's the same guy as b407:21
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davidmccabeHi folks.07:21
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matrixso, do i add desktop in the cmd line somewhere ?07:21
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davidmccabeI desperately want to remove ttf-indic-fonts and ttf-malayalam-fonts in order to make my font list usable again. However, ubuntu-desktop is dependent upon them. What will happen if it is removed?07:21
GnuKemistmatrix, can you confirm if you can access Jump Drive by double-clicking its icon?07:21
matrixyeah i can07:22
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matrixbut its where all my rar files are07:22
GnuKemistmatrix, can you confirm that it is listed under /media by clicking on My Computer?07:22
matrixmy computer is not on my desktop -_-07:22
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ompauldavidmccabe, do it, ubuntu desktop is a meta package, its not going anywhere07:23
GnuKemistmatrix, Places menu07:23
BollocksMacenzieI've got a bash file where it loads a program in the background which runs continuously... How do I get the bash script to exit even though the program hasn't!07:23
jayson_IGnuKemist: can you get back to #ubuntu-mono07:23
CynicleHEY GUYS does anyone know a respository where i can download the newest version of gaim07:23
derek[too] apt-get update07:23
matrixyeah its there07:23
GnuKemistjayson_I, you have an specific question?07:23
davidmccabeompaul: yeah but will it mess up checking for new versions of things?07:23
derek[too] apt-get installgaim07:23
davidmccabeompaul: (in gentoo it would)07:23
leopardAnyone own an iRiver H10?07:23
hoslerHow do I change the directory that tor downloads the tor information from?07:23
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derek[too] apt-get install gaim07:23
henkeleopard, I own a H2007:23
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leopardhenke: have you got it working under Linux?07:24
GnuKemistmatrix, then cd /media/Jump\ Drive should work...  if it doesn't then I dunno07:24
jayson_IGnuKemist: any official chanell to mono?07:24
henkeleopard, it works as a regular USB mass storage device07:24
ompauldavidmccabe, I have not found it do any bad stuff07:24
GnuKemistjayson_I, have you tried looking at their pages?  or #mono?07:24
pmjdebruijnjayson_I, irc.gimpnet.org#mono07:24
GnuKemistpmjdebruijn, thanx  ;)07:24
matrixbash: cd: /media/Jump Drive: No such file or directory07:24
leopardhenke: guess only the H10 is incompatible.07:24
jayson_Iah ok tnx07:25
iTChneed help, please. x-common won't update. error is "trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/X11/fonts'"07:25
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GnuKemistmatrix, then cd /media/Jump\ Drive07:25
GnuKemistmatrix, note the \07:25
BollocksMacenzieNever Mind07:25
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matrixi used that full line07:25
henkeleopard, aren't they the same, just different hard drive sizes?07:25
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leopardhenke: got my H10 syncing, but I either have to pull the battery or roll back the firmware.07:25
bam_anyone own a zaurus in here? particularly the sl-cXXXX series?07:25
GnuKemistmatrix, then cd /media/Jump [press TAB once] 07:25
leopardhenke: did you roll back your firmware?07:26
henkeleopard, I use the latest firmware07:26
davidmccabeompaul: ok, thanks.07:26
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matrixok still don't work no worries thanks anyway07:26
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GnuKemistmatrix, np... we tried it07:26
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matrixyeah we did07:27
zovirlI just updated my 5.04 system and it had a problem with firefox.  Now firefox won't start07:27
ompauldavidmccabe, enjoy07:27
zovirlany suggestions?07:27
matrixnow mounting drives :)07:27
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GnuKemistzovirl, http://cyphase.homelinux.com/blog/2005/09/23/the-firefox-107-upgrade-in-ubuntu-hoary/07:27
GnuKemistzovirl, assuming you updated to 1.0.707:27
bam_zovirl, uninstall it using synaptic, then reinstall07:27
bam_that fixed it for me07:28
zovirlgnukemist: heh...firefox won't start so I can't read that :)07:28
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GnuKemistzovirl, forgot to ask07:28
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GnuKemistzovirl, follow bam_ 's advice07:28
zovirlbam_ what did you uninstall?  I'm trying to uninstall firefox but it won't do it without also trying to upgrade mozilla-firefox07:28
bam_firefox, using synaptic07:28
GnuKemistzovirl, sudo apt-get remove firefox firefox-gnome-support mozilla-firefox mozilla-firefox-gnome-support07:28
bam_your using apt-get i suppose07:28
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leopardhenke: hmmn... I think the H10 and H20 might be slightly different because the H10 uses MTP which doesn't seem to be recognized by the kernel.07:29
bam_dont use atp07:29
GnuKemistzovirl, sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox mozilla-firefox-gnome-support07:29
bam_apt07:29
iTChneed help. just used synaptic to update but x-common_1.08_all.deb got error. what can i do?07:29
zovirlbam_ no I'm using synaptic...07:29
bam_oh07:29
bam_hmm07:29
AngryParsleyiTCh: I just had the same thing happen07:29
GnuKemistzovirl, using the 2 commands listed above will work07:29
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iTChAngryParsley, were u able to fix it?07:29
zovirlis it ok that it says it will remove "ubuntu-desktop" ?07:29
pizuxis somebody got a teminal triway v2 here?*07:30
GnuKemistzovirl, and my advice...  keep lynx browser around...  ;)07:30
bam_goto your cache (cant seem to remember where that is specifically) delete the firefox package07:30
AngryParsleyiTCh: no, I just came in here07:30
henkeleopard, oh, I didn't know that.07:30
zovirlgnukemist: oh yeah lynx :)07:30
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bam_lemme chaeck07:30
GnuKemistzovirl, I've used it many times  ;)07:30
iTChAngryParsley, i suppose this isn't a one-thing glitch ... we need help07:31
AngryParsleynow synaptic won't update07:31
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henkeleopard, what is MTP, anyway?07:31
zovirlgnukemist: is it normal that the apt-get remove command you gave me wants to also remove "ubuntu-desktop" ?07:31
leopardhenke: anyway I wrote up a hack-howto for H10 users... Good to know that the H20 is better. I think MTP is some stupid iRiver formatting scheme.07:31
GnuKemistzovirl, I don't remember the messages I got bit it works07:31
GnuKemistzovirl, blind faith07:31
GnuKemistzovirl, ;)07:31
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bam_/var/cache/apt/archives07:32
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bam_the package(firefox) delete it07:32
iTChAngryParsley, exactly it won't overwrite /usr/lib/X11/fonts07:32
henkeleopard, ahh, now when I think about it, my sisters T20 uses the same.07:32
AngryParsleyI click on "install updates" but the the installation status window just closes07:32
bam_then goto synaptic, remove firefox07:32
leopardI was just seeing if there were H10 users who were having frustrations with getting it to sync with Linux.07:33
bam_then apt-get update07:33
bam_back to synaptic, reinstall new package07:33
GnuKemistzovirl, just checked my messages and it did ask me to delete ubuntu-desktop... go for it07:33
bam_thats what I did07:33
henkeleopard, I wonder why they don't stick to USB mass storage for their devices, automatically gives them support everywhere07:33
leopardhenke: the hack isn't pretty though. I'm going to go after iRiver/Mystic to update the firmware again for the H10.07:33
zovirlgnukemist: thanks07:33
GnuKemistzovirl, my pleasure07:34
henkeleopard, how did you do?07:34
iTChbtw shipit is now taking in orders :)~~07:34
leopardhenke: who knows, maybe Microsoft slipped them some money???07:34
Cynicleguys how do i edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file?07:34
Cynicleits owned by root and is read only07:34
cyphasesudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list07:34
GnuKemistCynicle, sudo gedit /etc/apt/aources.list07:35
bam_or vim07:35
cyphasegedit for a gui editor07:35
GnuKemistor nano07:35
GnuKemist;)07:35
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deFryskerr sudo nanoi -w07:35
cyphasegedit is probably best though07:35
GnuKemistagreed07:35
deFrysknano rules07:35
bam_never played with nano, yet07:35
Juhaznano == pico on steroids07:35
leopardhenke: http://tuxspot.blogspot.com has the hack. It basically involves pulling tha battery for 30 seconds, pressing the 'O' key when you turn on to get the H10 to revert back to USB storage mode, and using some indexing software to index what you transfer over. It's a pain but it works.07:35
zovirlgnukemist, bam_: thanks I got firefox back now :)07:36
GnuKemistzovirl, woot07:36
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henkeleopard, so it has a USB storage mode too?07:36
GnuKemistzovirl, cyphase wrote the howto I tried to point you too07:36
joaospintolook when i enter the SMB windows Doccuments and settings folder07:36
bam_sure, np07:36
joaospintoim asked a user a domain and a password07:36
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cyphasezovirl, what seems to be the problem?07:36
cyphase:)07:36
joaospintou have said me to put the name of administrator (in my xp language)07:36
joaospintoand no pass07:37
joaospintobut i have a pass07:37
GnuKemistcyphase, the old firefox prob... it's fixed though  ;)07:37
joaospintoso i put the pass07:37
zovirlcyphase: update broke mozilla....gnukemist kindly pointed me to your website on the problem :)07:37
joaospintoand i cant login :(07:37
leopardhenke: it does, but by default it's "disabled"... the only way to enable it is to pull the battery to get the H10 to forget its MTP settings.07:37
cyphaseoh07:37
joaospintocan you help me folks?07:37
cyphasei thought you were still having problems07:37
henkeleopard, icky, though it should then be possible to hack the firmware. Just dangerous ;)07:38
GnuKemistzovirl, the fix is actually in the channel topic... check it out07:38
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joaospintoPpl how shall i login to the doccuments and settings windows page through samba????07:38
iTChis there a way to change back to the location bar on nautilus (brrezy badger pr)07:38
zovirlgnukemist: oh yeah...I missed it07:38
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leopardhenke: you can just roll back the firmware and it should work, but there are problems with rolling back the firmware too.07:38
joaospintoi think there is a WEP key on the share!07:38
joaospintobut i think it is not in use07:39
joaospintocoz i didnt put it in the router configuration07:39
JuhaziTCh, you can temporarily get the bar with ctrl-l, and there is a gconf key for permanent setting07:39
GnuKemistzovirl, ;)07:39
joaospintoand i can list the files from this computer07:39
leopardhenke: and of course you need a windows box to roll it back.07:39
joaospintoCAN anyone h3lp me?!?07:39
henkeleopard, so the old firmwares use USB storage?07:39
iTChthanx Juhaz07:39
joaospintoanybody????07:39
joaospintooh07:40
iTChexcellent Juhaz ... now how do i make that permanent07:40
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leopardhenke: I think so, but I wasn't able to get it to work, which is why I updated to the new firmware. But, I may have missed something when I first tried syncing.07:40
henkeleopard, by the way, the H20 can be run without indexing the filees. You just lose the neat categories by genre and artist and so. You just get the directory structure07:40
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JuhaziTCh, sorry, not a clue, haven't used 2.12 yet, try looking under /apps/nautilus/preferences in gconf-editor07:41
leopardhenke: cool, I'll be sure to recommend it in the FAQ...thanks.07:41
JairunCalothwhere is sources.list?07:41
iTChJuhaz, i am there and going through the key names07:41
henkeleopard, although, there is indexing software available for that too07:41
Tomcat_JairunCaloth: /etc/apt/07:41
tristanmikeJairunCaloth, /etc/apt/sources.list07:41
ompaulJairunCaloth, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list07:41
JairunCaloththanks :007:42
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ompaulsmall hint bigger hint full faq and howto07:42
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henkeleopard, good luck with getting iRiver to fix their firmware!07:42
JuhaziTCh, "always_use_location_entry" ?07:43
leopardhenke: does the H20 do video?07:43
iTChJuhaz, can u help me a bit and gimme a hint on the key name??? pulleeez07:43
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jeff303hi, is there any way from Nautilus to say, "Open terminal here"?  I couldn't find it...07:44
RntedMuleYou people are super07:44
henkeleopard, no, and now I realized that I've been "lying". It's called H12007:44
iTChahhhaaaa hehehehe ... u are truly marvelous Juhaz. thank u again ;)07:44
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henkeleopard, or H100, which comes in 10-40 gb variations07:44
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henkeleopard, it's confusing. They have changed the names of the product a few times07:45
Juhazjeff303, http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=90807:45
henkeleopard, it's probably an older model than that H1007:45
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leopardhenke: this is mine: http://www.iriveramerica.com/prod/hd/h10_char.aspx07:46
ginoowhat's up, yaall07:46
jeff303Juhaz: many thanks07:46
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henkeleopard, I had confused the product names. So our devices are very much not the same.07:46
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gabyhello07:49
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waterbearhi07:50
chrissturmhow do i enable theatre mode with the fglrx driver?07:50
jamey3I'm trying to clean up the Ubuntu wiki page on disabling IPv6. Does anyone know why the dev team enabled it in the first place (or any other info)?07:50
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UbuntuOneHi people07:50
henkeleopard, I wonder if something similar to your hack is possible for the T20.07:50
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JairunCalothbah... blasted firefox07:50
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leopardhenke: could be, does it have the 'O' button?07:51
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waterbearjamey3: Perhaps the same rationale as NetBSD07:51
Jack-Hois there an officel date for breezy?07:51
jamey3waterbear, what rationale was that? :)07:51
waterbearjamey3: Dunno.07:51
GnuKemistJairunCaloth, lemme guess... it crashed?07:51
JairunCalothit won't start07:51
Ne453Jack-Ho: October 13th I hear from the roadmap ;-)07:51
j0nas`guys, im having a little trouble getting my intel wireless connection to work with my linksys router... are there any known issues?07:51
tristanmikeGnuKemist, that problem sux07:51
jamey3waterbear, okay but they did enable IPv6? I'm guessing it's just because they wanted everyone to be future-proof.07:51
j0nas`it wont seem to accept my wep key07:51
GnuKemistJairunCaloth, just updated your system?07:51
tristanmikelol07:51
JairunCalothyesterday07:51
Jack-HoNe453, thanks07:51
Jack-Ho:] 07:51
GnuKemisttristanmike, ;)07:52
henkeleopard, I don't have it here, so I don't know. Although the battery built-in on that device. That MTP thing is silly though. It even gives problems in Windows. Like not allowing uploads of .ogg files, even though the device supports them.07:52
GnuKemistJairunCaloth, http://cyphase.homelinux.com/07:52
JairunCalothJust did that07:52
JairunCalothsame result07:52
GnuKemistJairunCaloth,  type firefox in console07:52
leopardhenke: exactly, it's beyond dumb!07:52
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JairunCalothdidn't do a thing07:52
leopardhenke: I just registered mine and I'm giving them a piece of my mind about it.07:52
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tristanmikeJairunCaloth, did you remember to open System Monitor and kill the offending firefox process?07:53
GnuKemistJairunCaloth, mozilla-firefox?07:53
GnuKemisttristanmike, good call07:53
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henkeleopard, quite funny. It has some fixed folders, like Music and Data. It allows ogg uploads to Data, but not Music :) The device doesn't care and plays them whereever they are, so it's a minor problem.07:53
j0nas`can anybody help me with my wireless network connection? :-\07:53
JairunCalothmmm that might have been a good idea07:53
tristanmikeJairunCaloth, that's why I was getting a whole slew of errors yesterday when I tried07:53
GnuKemistj0nas`, sup?07:53
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j0nas`GnuKemist: network config wont seem to accept my wep key?07:54
j0nas`i am not sure why...07:54
j0nas`its seeing a bunch of access points07:54
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JairunCalothThanks guys, seems to be working now07:54
GnuKemistcyphase, maybe you should add a line telling people to kill off any firefox instance before trying to run it again?07:54
j0nas`its an intel wireless device07:54
j0nas`linksys router07:54
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tristanmikeJairunCaloth, got firefox back and running againg?07:54
tristanmike*again?07:54
RntedMuleCan someone help me with remastering a livecd? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=68594 (I am desperate, so this message is on a 10min timer)07:55
GnuKemistj0nas`, got the firmaware and all?07:55
JairunCalothtristanmike: yes, thanks for the help07:55
GnuKemistJairunCaloth, woot07:55
tristanmikecool, np, annoyed the heck outta me yesterday07:55
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j0nas`not sure... i assumed it would be installed with the ubuntu installation?07:55
JairunCalothyea I was about to start stabbign things07:55
GnuKemistj0nas`, you got the intel 2200?07:55
tristanmikeJairunCaloth, GnuKemist was one of the people to help me fix it ;)07:55
j0nas`yes07:55
GnuKemisttristanmike, all thanx to cyphase  ;)07:56
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GnuKemistj0nas`, hang on07:56
j0nas`thanks07:56
GnuKemistj0nas`, got the howto for it07:56
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emilei have an xp 1800 amd processor inside an acer laptop, this is a processor which support cpu frequency scaling. Can i force it to use only eg. 33% of it's capacities to save power, and if yes any clues how?07:56
j0nas`great... do you suppose this issue will be fixed with breezy?07:56
tristanmikeThat's right, and thanks to cyphase woohoo, for the community!07:56
cuddlybearhello07:56
GnuKemistj0nas`, nope... I think it's because of the license for the firmware07:56
j0nas`too bad...07:57
j0nas`:-\07:57
Ne453emile: you might want to search google for powernowd (which I think Ubuntu has in the CD)07:57
matrixok people thanks again bbl07:57
tristanmikeRntedMule, is that an offical cd?07:57
GnuKemistj0nas`, try this but skip the wpa part:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26623&highlight=wpa07:57
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j0nas`okay, thanks a lot :)07:58
emileNe453: thnx i'll look into that07:58
GnuKemistj0nas`, but every time you update the kernel you'll have to do it again07:58
GnuKemistj0nas`, a major PITA07:58
JairunCalothI bet if  drive isn't formatted it won't let me mount it eh?07:58
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GnuKemistj0nas`, my pleasure and good web surfing07:58
Ne453emile: no problem ;-)07:58
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henkeRntedMule, why don't you burn the image directly?07:59
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GnuKemistJairunCaloth, I think it will... then you can fdisk it?07:59
GnuKemistJairunCaloth, or maybe fdisk it first07:59
JairunCalotha slave hdd should be /dev/hdb1 rigth?07:59
GnuKemistJairunCaloth, dunno... hehehe07:59
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GnuKemistJairunCaloth, guess so07:59
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JairunCalothbastaige won't mount08:00
GnuKemistJairunCaloth, dmesg |grep hdb08:00
jeff303Juhaz: have you used this extension?  do I have to restart gnome to see it?08:00
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JairunCalothGnuKemist: well, it shows it there, that's a plus08:01
Cyniclehey guys i desperatly need your help, i installed ubuntu today and now when i try to load windows it brings up the splash screen then i get a blue screen of death. help plz08:01
GnuKemistJairunCaloth, absolutely  ;)08:01
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sewoylCynicle, what does the BSOD say08:02
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pierresaluttttt :)08:02
denn_hi08:02
GnuKemistsewoyl, probably: Switch to a real OS?  ;)08:02
pierrehi ^^08:02
GnuKemistsewoyl, just kidding08:02
LuVUnTuheheheh GnuKemist08:02
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stperepierre, hello08:03
JairunCalothI thought I had it setup right in fstab08:03
pierreHello stpere08:03
GnuKemistJairunCaloth, does the mount point exist?08:03
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GnuKemistLuVUnTu, ;)08:03
pierreFirst time i use a lnx distrib.. really hard :/08:03
cyphaseaw shucks08:03
cyphasestop it08:03
cyphase;)08:03
eagleyeCan someone tell me where to get plugins and codecs for totem08:03
GnuKemistcyphase, hehe08:03
tristanmikecyphase, you deserve it08:03
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srossihi I install for the first time ubuntu .... is there a tool for management file system?08:04
GnuKemisteagleye, www.ubuntuguide.org08:04
GnuKemisteagleye, though some people don't like it ;)08:04
Cyniclesewoyl, um error at location blah blah shutdown to save computer integrity and so on08:04
eagleyethanks08:04
j0nas`srossi: nautilus08:04
eagleyeis there an alternative08:04
leopardhenke: Oh I was mean... *g* I think iRiver will probably contact me because I stressed how much I wanted to like the H10, but noted all the problems....08:04
tristanmikeeagleye, use the wiki08:04
j0nas`or click Places > Computer08:04
Cyniclesewoyl, before the BSOD comes up it quickly flashes that 2 files are missing08:04
Cyniclesewoyl, but i didnt delete anything08:04
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tristanmikeeagleye, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for example08:04
GnuKemistCynicle, maybe a virus beat you to it?  ;)08:05
JairunCalothGnuKemist: yea it exists08:05
RntedMuleCan someone help me with remastering a livecd? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=68594 (I am desperate, so this message is on a 10min timer)08:05
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leopardAh well...off to buy  a cooler for the notebook....ciao all\08:05
CynicleGnuKemist, highly doubt it08:05
sndi apt-get install xserver-xorg... and i typed startx, command not found... what do i need to do?08:05
JairunCalothGnuKemist: I've got it telling me wrong filesystem now, the drive is /dev/hdb08:05
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JairunCalothGnuKemist: just gotta format it08:05
GnuKemistCynicle, was just joking...  ;)08:05
JairunCalothGnuKemist: It's probably not preformated08:05
carlesmhhello08:05
eagleyeThank you, I'll try it08:06
GnuKemistJairunCaloth, try to fdisk it...  format 8208:06
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chellehello08:06
thoreauputicsnd sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:06
chellewhat are you doing08:06
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denn_which version of gnome and openoffice is on ubuntu 5.04?08:06
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chellehello08:06
JairunCalothGnuKemist: Not goign to bother with formating it yet, I havn't completly decided how I"m setting it up yet.08:06
pierreI wonder if they are some french personn here..08:06
sewoylgnome 2.10, OOo 1.1.408:06
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denn_thanks08:06
GnuKemistJairunCaloth, gotcha08:07
chellehello08:07
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sewoyldenn_, 5.10 is coming out soon08:07
GnuKemistpierre, is there a #ubuntu-fr?08:07
jeff303does anyone know... is there the equivalent of a "make uninstall"?08:07
thoreauputicsnd sudo apt-get install x-window-system-core if that doesn't work08:07
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pierrei dont know08:07
ginooyeah, there is08:07
GnuKemistjeff303, make clean?08:07
ginoo#ubuntu-fr08:07
tritiumsnd, are you using warty?08:07
pierrenop GnuKemist08:07
sndhoardy08:07
GnuKemistjeff303, wait08:07
pierreI've test08:07
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pierre;)08:07
macihmm isnt there wine in breezy yet ?08:08
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jeff303GnuKemist: I thought that just delets the objects from your source directory08:08
GnuKemistpierre, ginoo says there is08:08
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tristanmikepierre, "/join #ubuntu-fr"08:08
jeff303GnuKemist: not like /usr/local/  or wherever it installed to08:08
pierrebut i'm alone in this channel ( #ubuntu-fr )08:08
pierre=/08:08
GnuKemistjeff303, I think make clean clears all objs in the local source folder so you can re-compile... but am not sure08:08
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Chii_ChanSorry to bother >.< but Ive reached a part in setting up my network using NdisWrapper.  Where I have to use one of three commands depending on what version of linux Im running.  Which one would I use for Ubuntu/Debian version?  " ifconfig wlan0 up" , "dhclient wlan0",  or "dhcpcd wlan0"08:09
tristanmikepierre, you can't be, I just went08:09
jeff303GnuKemist: yeah it does08:09
tritiumyes maci08:09
pierreok.. i retry..08:09
tritium!info wine breezy08:09
GnuKemistpierre, =/... but your english is good enough08:09
jeff303GnuKemist: essentially forces a recompile08:09
ubotuwine: (Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050725-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 14131 kB, Installed size: 55484 kB08:09
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macitritium: yes there is or there isnt ?08:09
pierrethx GnuKemist08:09
jeff303GnuKemist: I mean I suppose you could go through and figure out what directories the make install put things into, manually delete them, etc08:09
jeff303GnuKemist: but that is a pain08:09
pierreI'll stay here to improve it ;-)08:09
GnuKemistjeff303, absolutely08:09
bodaihsimHi people. I need a little help. I am Beginner in linux.08:10
GnuKemistpierre, good decision  ;)08:10
GnuKemistChii_Chan, dhclient08:10
bodaihsimhow i switch the workspace in the keyboard08:10
Chii_Chanokey, ty :)08:10
bodaihsim?08:10
tritiummaci, yes there is, see ubotu's info above08:10
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GnuKemistjeff303, so you "hand compiled it"?08:10
Chii_ChanHiya bodaihsim :)  I am new as well08:10
macitritium: it doesnt seem so08:10
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GnuKemistChii_Chan, np08:10
macitritium: at least not on amd6408:10
silas_bodaihsim, gnome: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts.08:10
bodaihsimgood :08:10
thoreauputicbodaihsim: ctrl-alt- arrow08:10
bodaihsimoh tks a lot08:11
LinuxJonesbodaihsim, ctrl + alt + arrow key08:11
aparrahi08:11
jeff303GnuKemist: yeah...08:11
pierreBut i'm so noob.. and you talked about "compilation".. i just know how to type on my keyboard :D08:11
bodaihsimtks man08:11
tritiummaci, only for i38608:11
da0greis there a specific PPC channel?08:11
aparrasombady know how mount a samba partition?08:11
GnuKemistChii_Chan, am assuming you got the device to show up via the iwconfig command08:11
macitritium: well.. ill build it from source then08:11
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jeff303GnuKemist: oh interesting, sometimes the Makefile does specify an uninstall rule08:11
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jeff303GnuKemist: that seemed to work08:12
Chii_Chanyes08:12
GnuKemistjeff303, share the info...  ;)08:12
Chii_Chanor else I wouldnt be this far, lol08:12
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jeff303GnuKemist: how...?08:12
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GnuKemistaparra, check the wiki.ubuntu.org08:12
bodaihsimcan i use the WebCam in Ubuntu?08:12
aparraok08:12
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GnuKemistjeff303, by telling me if it does have the unistall parameter...  ;)08:12
sewoylis it possible to compile then make a deb package ti use apt-get dor uninstalling it ?08:12
sewoylpff sorry about the typos08:13
GnuKemistChii_Chan, wise words  ;)08:13
thoreauputicsewoyl: yes, install checkinstall08:13
apokryphoshi thoreauputic :)08:13
tristanmikebodaihsim, wecam08:13
fmasiHelo can some one help me i having some sound problems under ubuntu08:13
Chii_ChanIm confused about something though so could I post it?08:13
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jeff303GnuKemist: well in my case, for this source code, it must have, cause I tried it and it worked08:13
thoreauputichi apokryphos :) I guess I came back ;)08:13
GnuKemistChii_Chan, send it priv08:13
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bodaihsimtks man08:13
Chii_Chankk08:13
GnuKemistjeff303, I'll take your word for it then  ;)08:13
sewoylthoreauputic, package checkinstall ?08:13
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thoreauputic!info checkinstall08:14
ubotucheckinstall: (installation tracker), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.5.3-3 (hoary), Packaged size: 34 kB, Installed size: 132 kB08:14
bodaihsimtks man08:14
thoreauputicsewoyl: in universe, as you see08:14
jeff303GnuKemist: furthermore... it looks like GNU Autoconf automatically makes the uninstall rule08:14
tristanmikebodaihsim, webcams are flaky, try GnomeMeeting08:14
sewoylthoreauputic, hmm yes found it :) gonna give it a tru08:14
apokryphosthoreauputic: yup :P. A really great read, by the way http://dot.kde.org/1127515635/ pretty funny08:14
jeff303GnuKemist: http://lug.mtu.edu/lists/lug-l-0302/msg00012.html08:14
GnuKemistjeff303, thanx a bunch08:14
RntedMuleCan someone help me with remastering a livecd? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=68594 (I am desperate, so this message is on a 10min timer)08:15
tristanmikebodaihsim, "wecam" was my typo, sorry.. :)08:15
da0greanyone here have a WORKING xorg.confg file for a rage128 ibook?08:15
thoreauputicRntedMule: no timers please08:15
tristanmikeRntedMule, you are trying to burn in Ubuntu?08:15
tristanmikethe timer has been 10 minutes for like 20, lol08:15
bodaihsimtristanmike, ok i try08:15
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thoreauputictristanmike: he was already +q ed by seveas, so he's evading that as well08:17
abbyleeI'm trying to install Ubuntu on an old laptop (PII 300) that doesn't boot to cd rom.  I tried using the Smart Boot Manager, but while it recognizes my cdrom, it still won't boot to it.  Can anyone help me brainstorm alternatives?08:17
tritiumda0gre, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and be sure to use the "ati" driver08:17
cmartinehow do you force rw mounting of a ntfs filesystem?08:17
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cmartinejust booted off of live08:17
tristanmikethoreauputic, some people are so thick headed lol08:17
cmartinecant edit or modify XP filesystem08:17
Zodiacguys, how can I tell if synaptic stalled?08:17
thoreauputictristanmike: ;)08:17
da0gretrit: thanks, ill try that08:17
emile!ntfs08:17
ubotuwell, ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.08:17
Zodiacits been setting up ubuntu desktop for like 10 minutes08:18
emilecmartine: ntfs is readonly08:18
docgnomeI'm having rpoblems getting wvdial to work for me. I know that the it is seen and i can talk to it. but wvdialconf has problems setting the max baud, and so it just gives up.08:18
eagleyeCan someone tell me how to get the multiverse, I have universe but multiverse doesnt show08:19
ZodiacWas there a fix for the bug reported yesterday in Breezy?08:19
GnuKemistgoodbye everyone... happy hacking08:19
tritiumeagleye, add multiverse at the end of each line where you have universe (except the security line)08:19
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cmartineubotu, dont want to automatically mount it, i want to manually mount it rw08:20
ubotuI'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, cmartine08:20
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stperecmartine, ubotu is a bot08:20
tritiumcmartine, write support on NTFS is very risky08:20
cmartinei booted off live and am trying to change some files on it08:20
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cmartineyes its very risky but how do you mount it rw08:20
eagleyeNot sure what you mean. Im still new08:20
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tristanmikeyou guys make ubotu too smart08:21
cmartinetryind mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt -o rw08:21
cmartinetried mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt -o rw08:21
sorush20how do I get my printer hotplug system to be restared with out me having to restart the computer..08:21
cmartinebut keeps mounting ro08:21
cmartinewtf !!!!08:21
docgnomeDoes anyone know anything aobut wvdial?08:21
shinucmartine: you cant write on ntfs08:21
stperecmartine, the ntfs module in the kernel has to support the write option08:21
tritiumcmartine, are you listening to us?08:21
eagleyeNot sure what you mean tritium Im still new08:21
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tritium!tell eagleye about repositories08:22
cmartineaaaaaaaaaaaah tritium finally speaks in english08:22
tritiumalways have been, cmartine08:22
cmartinekernel has to support write option08:22
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da0gretritium: I did that, and selected ati, but i still get (EE) R128{0}: Failed to open framebuffer device....08:22
elvirolo/joi #kubuntu08:22
eagleyeI did add the universe repository, but multiverse dont show up08:22
cmartinesure tritium, trying to get an easy answer from ya is like ....08:22
cmartinesee how easy that was08:23
tritiumcmartine, what is your problem?08:23
da0greim trying to use jonathan btw08:23
cmartinekernel has to support it ... duh08:23
tritiumcmartine, no, it does not.08:23
tritiumbe polite, cmartine08:23
cmartinethen why doesnt mount -o rw work?08:23
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cmartineif it doesnt08:23
LinuxJonessorush20, sudo /etc/init.d/hotplug restart08:23
abbyleeDoes anyone know how to install ubuntu on a computer that won't boot to cd when Smart Boot Manager won't work?08:23
shinucmartine: you can get some other thing from sf.net i think that allows you to write on ntfs08:23
tristanmikecmartine, Microsoft keeps their stuff secret, so it has to be reversed engineered, and since NTFS is still quite new, not as of yet, but it's comming along08:24
shinucmartine: but its kinda risky so..08:24
stperecmartine, write access on ntfs doesn't allow you to write new files or change the size of files, IIRC08:24
LinuxJonessorush20, but you shouldn't need to do that08:24
cmartineall i wanted was to fix my iexplore.exe08:24
cmartinekeeps crashing08:24
tritiumcmartine, we have a code of conduct here.  Please be polite where you're in #ubuntu08:24
cmartinesays its already updated08:24
tristanmikecmartine, what makes you believe you can fix it from Linux?08:24
cmartineim  a bsd unix geek , trying to work with linux on a windows fs08:25
cmartineadios amigos08:25
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fmasienny one has enny special kernel in mide that i should use whith ubuntu ? Becouse gone recompile it08:25
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stpereweird :-P08:25
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ZodiacThey did release a fix :)08:26
Zodiachooray for breezy08:26
ogahello, if I place a shipit request for cds, will the breezy badger be shipped or hoary?08:26
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tritiumfmasi, just the default is fine08:26
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stpereoga, breezy08:26
da0gretritium: the xconfig thing i ran is using ati /and/ "UseFBDev", is that right?08:26
tritiumda0gre, try without08:27
Chii_ChanI am starting to enjoy this, hehe.  Working with linux as I try to get ndiswrapper to work Im learning a lot more than I would have imagined previously08:27
waterbear!info linux-source-2.6.1108:27
fmasitritium, and whith vertion should i take08:27
ubotulinux-source-2.6.11: (Linux kernel source for version 2.6.11 with Ubuntu patches), section universe/devel, is optional. Version: 2.6.11-0.2 (hoary), Packaged size: 37214 kB, Installed size: 37344 kB08:27
da0gretrit: then i get error 708:27
tritiumfmasi, which release are you using?08:27
ogastpere, ok. in october though?08:27
tritiumwaterbear, 2.6.11 is not supported08:27
Ninjewquick question: there is no amd64 compile of openoffice2, is there?08:27
fmaside defauld one that come whith ubuntu08:27
stpereoga, yep08:28
tritiumfmasi, hoary?08:28
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fmasitritium,  2.6.10-5-38608:28
tritiumfmasi, why do you want to recompile?08:28
fmasitritium, yep08:28
othernoobdid ubuntu drop the ia64 support?08:28
fmasitritium, I having sound problems and i ges its the kernel08:28
da0gretritium: here is the exact error "(EE) R128(0): Cannont read V_BIOS(5)" also, it skips several modules because no symbols are found08:29
tritiumfmasi, are you sure?08:29
waterbearothernoob: It never had Itanium support, AFAIK.08:29
tritiumda0gre, have you looked at /var/log/Xorg.0.log /08:29
tritium>08:29
fmasitritium, also it takes long time to load all modules08:29
fmasitritium, not sure its the kernel08:29
othernoobwaterbear: you sure? there were packages for ia6408:29
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fmasitritium, maby its gnome dont know i use to use kde so i lost in gnome08:30
waterbearothernoob: You sure you don't mean x86-64 or amd64?08:30
fmasitritium, ther is no control center08:30
othernoobwaterbear: yes i'm sure08:30
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tritiumfmasi, did you at least check the mixer to make sure it's not muted?08:30
waterbearothernoob: Then, the answer to your question is yes.08:30
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wezzeris there nice and simple vu meter available for gnome?08:31
fmasitritium, my xmms or enny other program freez when i want to play mp3 and the mpg123 is instaled08:31
fmasitritium, whes08:31
fmasitritium, its at max08:31
da0gretritium "(WW) R128(0): Video BIOS not found!" and a bunch of "not using def. mode "##x##"" messages08:31
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othernoobwaterbear: which? the first one or the one whether or not you're sure? ;)08:31
stperefmasi, it's probably not really freezing08:31
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fmasitritium,  but ther seams to have 2 sound bords on wile i only have one08:31
abbyleeIs there anyone who can help me with installing ubuntu on my laptop which will not boot to cd rom and Smart Boot Manager won't work?  I figure I could partition my harddrive and put a copy of the install files there, but I don't know how to partition something that's not fat with my dos fdisk.08:31
stperefmasi, it usually means you have a process using the soundcard08:32
fmasitritium, some distorced sound comes from gaim08:32
Hendrichow can i disable the time synch during startup??? it consumes a lot of time08:32
stperefmasi, you have to configure xmms to use the esd output08:32
waterbearothernoob: The first one.08:32
fmasigona try08:32
stperefmasi, because you already have a esd process using your sound card08:32
apokryphosubotu: tell abbylee about install08:33
apokryphosabbylee: a few other methods for installation there08:33
fmasitritium,  i used to usa gaim and xmms at same time in gentoo08:33
test34Hendric, sudo update-rc.d -f ntpdate remove08:33
tritiumfmasi, you can in ubuntu too08:33
tritiumda0gre, not sure, dude08:33
da0grek, thanks08:33
fmasitritium, fo08:33
da0gregonna try google with my newfound info08:33
fmasitritium, ops now xmms whont start08:33
thegeekdomHey, has anybody installed ubuntu from a floppy  ?08:33
abbyleeapokryphos, thank you.  I've been trying and playing, and I just can't get it to work.08:34
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fmasitritium, lol that pc its vary crasy08:34
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fmasitritium, what librarys should i add to be able to play mp308:34
tritium!mp308:34
ubotu[mp3]  read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support08:34
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thegeekdomI am trying to install to a laptop that does not have a CD rom.  Does anybody know how to do that ?08:35
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apokryphosubotu: tell thegeekdom about install08:36
markus_hi08:36
tritiumthegeekdom, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation08:36
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Chii_Chanhow could I get the wpa_supplicant package if sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant doesnt work? >.<08:37
tritiumChii_Chan, add the universe repo08:38
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chamikalHi08:38
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chamikalI have upgraded to breezt08:38
sfgwer122SF34hi, can anyone help, i've just this minute installed Ubuntu 5.10, but when it came up for the initial logon, the screen is displayed twice on the monitor, in the top left and top right at about a quarter size each.08:38
chamikalbreezy08:38
ogawhat if the monitor is at 60-70Hz in Hoary. In Windows I can have 85Hz at 1024 resolution. Do I have to install proper drivers?08:38
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rajeevhello all08:39
chamikaland X didn't work and it works before on Hoary using mga server08:39
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rajeevjust configured LG110 CDMA phone to connect to the internet08:39
chamikaland x-window-system is virtual08:39
apokryphoschamikal: what's the error? Was the whole install smooth?08:39
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maeanyone want/need a gmail invite?08:40
rajeevanyone else use this08:40
Hendricwhats wrong with my network setup?? i can ping d DNS.. can ping the Gateway.. but firefox or other internet program just keeps on loading forever and nothing comes out...08:40
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chamikalapokryphos : yep08:40
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chamikalapokryphos : and I have ubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-base08:40
tritiumoga, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and fix the refresh rates08:40
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JerkHeadHow about instead of +q and +b ing me, some of your jerks TRY helping me out08:40
Hendricit doesn't give any error... its just keeps on loading08:40
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tritiumJerkHead, why not be polite?08:41
chamikalapokryphos : Xorg.log tells me that I miss some font08:41
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JerkHeadI AM.08:41
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dylan_why cant i install w32codecs?  i get the message from apt  :  Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.08:41
dylan_This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or08:41
dylan_is only available from another source08:41
dylan_E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate08:41
lassewhat do i do whit a *.img file (it shout bea a film)08:41
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ginooholy spam batman08:41
apokryphosdylan_: don't paste in here please :)08:41
dylan_apokryphos, ok sorry08:41
thegeekdomubotu.  I read that but it appears to be pointing to creating a boot rom and I do not want to do a diskless workstation.08:41
apokryphos!tell dylan_ about w32codecs08:41
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dacrepairhello again08:42
Hendricwhats wrong with my network setup?? i can ping d DNS.. can ping the Gateway.. but firefox or other internet program just keeps on loading forever and nothing comes out...08:42
chamikalapokryphos : and tells me to add x-window-system and x-window-system-core I have x-window-system-core08:42
apokryphosdylan_: grab one of those debs, then you can install it08:42
tritiumJerkHead, play nicely08:42
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dylan_apokryphos, is it dpkg -i /file/08:42
Chii_Chanokey Im stuck >.< how do I add the universe repository08:42
chamikalsomebody who is running breezy can tell me if x-window-system is virtual or not ?08:42
apokryphosdylan_: dpkg -i package.deb  ..yes08:42
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dylan_apokryphos, thanks a billion08:42
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dacrepairi've been looking up how to get better resolutions mor forcably08:42
dacrepairi have yet to get it to work08:42
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JerkHeadtritium: WHat part am I not playing nicely about? I put an unobtrusive 10min timer up so I could get some help from someone possibly when Im not here08:43
JerkHeadbecause it seems no one currently can08:43
tritiumNo timers, JerkHead08:43
JerkHeadbut after one or two, Im squelched08:43
JerkHeadwhat ELSE am I supposed to do?08:43
bob2JerkHead: have you tried the mailing list? the forums? paid support?08:43
jtheodashi, anyone installed skype on breezy badger?08:43
justin123I'm having real trouble with my hardrive08:44
Hendriccan anyone help me with my problem??08:44
justin123my system wont boot08:44
JerkHeadbob2: Ive tried the forums AND mailing list. I will not pay for help reburning a livecd08:44
bob2JerkHead: great08:44
justin123/dev/hda3: Duplicate/bad block(s) in inode 5033743: 14281208:44
justin123/dev/hda3: (There are 27932 inodes containing duplicate/bad blocks.)/dev/hda3: Duplicate/bad block(s) in inode 5033743: 14281208:44
justin123/dev/hda3: (There are 27932 inodes containing duplicate/bad blocks.)08:44
justin123sorry08:44
tritiumjustin123, no pasting ;)08:44
Chii_Channever mind, found it08:44
bob2JerkHead: what was the subject of your post to the ubuntu-user list?08:44
JerkHeadbob2: as a matter of fact, my request for help pointed right to my forum post08:44
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justin123what can i do?08:44
bob2justin123: did your system shut down uncleanly?08:44
JerkHeadbob2: "Need help remastering LiveCD"08:45
dylan_how do i get totem to play embedded movies on the internet?  i installed w32codecs but its not working.  what package do i install?08:45
justin123yes, i was in the middle of installing openssh server from synaptic08:45
bob2JerkHead: remastering != reburning08:45
justin123it failed and then when i rebooted it says my file system is corrupted08:45
arkanesjustin123: are you using ext3?08:45
justin123yes08:45
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bob2justin123: you can probably ignore it then08:45
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chamikaldylan_ : try to see if codec are in /usr/lib/win3208:45
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JerkHeadbob2: sure it is... my goal is to eventually REMASTER it, but for now, I cant even REBURN it08:45
bob2JerkHead: you're getting obnoxious again08:46
justin123bob2, it wont let me boot, fsck cant fix it. it says to run fsck manually, but their are 100's of errors08:46
dylan_chamikal, what is the name of the file that i should be looking for?08:46
justin123so I end up holding down the Y key for yes forever08:46
chamikaldylan_ : otherwise grab "all" codec pack in mplayerhq.hu and copy it to /usr/lib/win3208:46
bob2JerkHead: if it fails to burn, it's almost certainly a hardware problem, or an issue with your burning software08:46
chamikaldylan_ : some dll :)08:46
bob2JerkHead: are you burning it on ubuntu?08:46
JerkHeadIts looking for SOMETHING to identify it as an Ubuntu CD, but somehow it gets lost in the whole process08:46
dylan_chamikal, ok ill tell you if it works or not.. k?08:46
dacrepairis there a way to forc2 1024x76808:46
chamikaldylan_ : ok08:46
dacrepair*force08:46
justin123I'm in knoppix trying to fix it08:46
ogahow big is a swap-partition meant to be with a system with 512mb ram.08:47
bob2JerkHead: and you checked the md5sum of the cd you burnt, and it was correct?08:47
ogawith ubuntu.08:47
justin123It sucks I have my term paper on there08:47
bob2oga: 1GB is plenty08:47
JerkHeadbob2: no. Slackware. Would you like a link to my forum post? What I am doing is rather straight forward08:47
tristanmikeoga, double08:47
dylan_chamikal, is it the essential package?08:47
ogaaight. thanks.08:47
bob2oga: you can get away with a lot less if you're not planning to suspend to disk08:47
JerkHeadbob2: The MD5sum of the original iso is correct, yes08:47
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justin123Any one have any ideas? I cant loose my term paper08:47
bob2JerkHead: "original iso"? I mean the cd you burnt; does that match?08:48
bob2justin123: fsck has a -y option...08:48
da0greok, (heads ut tritium) Im trying to get jonathan to install on a ibookg3 using only the vga out(broken screen).  Console works great, but x wont load.  In the xorg log, it says it cant find a valid FB device, and it checks fb1-fb7, but fb0 which /is/ the valid device... Anythoughts?08:48
dacrepairalso has anybody tried doom3 for linux?08:48
Hendricwhats wrong with my network setup?? i can ping d DNS.. can ping the Gateway.. but firefox or other internet program just keeps on loading forever and nothing comes out...08:48
bob2Hendric: can you ping google.com?08:48
JerkHeadbob2: I wouldnt imagine it would. Depending on a lot of factors, it would be different, just based on my mkisofs options08:48
bob2JerkHead: so, using mkisofs != burning an ubuntu iso08:49
justin123bob2, idiotically I just noticed that as you were saying it, I just hope it can repair it08:49
chamikaldylan_ : brb08:49
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justin123i wonder why installing openshs server did all this08:49
justin123ssh : )08:49
bob2JerkHead: so your question is really about remastering, it has nothing to do with "reburning"08:49
tritiumda0gre, not sure about that08:49
Hendricit will stop responding if i ping google.com08:49
JerkHeadbob2: please look at this -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6859408:49
JerkHeadbob2: then you will understand what/what isnt going on08:49
da0greis there a way to force x which FB devices to check on startup? Its just not checking the one that exists is all08:50
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Hendricbob2: the network tool hangs up if i ping google.com08:50
bob2if you've really been berating people about "reburning" a CD when you really meant "remastering", I'll be quite annoyed08:50
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bob2since you were rude for no actual reason08:50
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bob2Hendric: ignore the network tool08:50
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Hendricwhat should i do bob2??08:51
bob2JerkHead: that seems rather pointless08:51
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bob2Hendric: aren't you using DHCP?08:51
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chamikalre08:51
JerkHeadbob2: Like I said... my goal is remastering, but I cant even get a 1-to-1 reburning working08:51
Luis_e54fgjfgfd08:51
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Luis_e54join venezuela08:51
dylan_chamikal, i get the message from Totem:  No URI handler implemented for "fd://0"08:52
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bob2JerkHead: no, stop using incorrect terminology like that08:52
bob2the cd burns fine08:52
dylan_chamikal, what do i do from there08:52
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Hendrici'm not using DHCP...08:52
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Luis_e54fgfdg08:52
bob2Hendric: then don't bother with any gnome tools at all; just edit /etc/network/interfaces08:52
Luis_e54hello08:52
chamikaldylan_ : which backend did u use ? gstreamer or xine ?08:52
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Hendrici did d same thing on the other PC with different specs it workd fine...08:52
chamikaldylan_ : try to install totem-xine08:53
Hendriccould it be the lancard being incompatible?08:53
dylan_chamikal, gstreamer08:53
JerkHeadbob2: Look... reburning TO ME would be to take the ISO and TRY burning again. The fact that I am disassembling the ISO and remaking it constitutes REMASTERING. While my example is simple, that is only to debug the issue08:53
Chii_Chanhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26623&highlight=wpa  On here when I install the WPA supplicant and configure it.  Do I copy it AS IS and then end up filling my ess id and pass when given some sort of option.  Or do I fill in my ess id and pw for the slot in there08:53
chamikaldylan_ : try to install totem-xine ;-)08:53
dylan_chamikal, ok hold on...thanks in advance btw08:53
bob2JerkHead: well, whatever, you seem way out of your depth if you're going to argue silly things like that08:53
dylan_chamikal, ok installed08:53
bob2JerkHead: I assume you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDCustomizationHowTo?08:53
chamikaldylan_ : totem-gstreamer didn't use win32 codec yet08:54
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chamikaldylan_ : now it's going to work ;-)08:54
dylan_chamikal, ok lemme see if it works08:54
bob2JerkHead: it's the first hit on google for "ubuntu live cd customization +site:wiki.ubuntu.com"08:54
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pierreSomeone know where download Winamp for Linux?08:54
Hendricbob2: could it be the lancard being incompatible?08:54
bob2pierre: I wouldn't bother08:54
tristanmikethanks bob2, I was looking for something like that :)08:54
bob2pierre: if you really like that UI, try xmms08:54
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bob2Hendric: I doubt it, unless it's just not being detected at all08:54
dylan_chamikal, it just logged me out08:54
dylan_why08:54
bob2Hendric: is it a via-rhine?08:55
Psynexanyone here running an XP - Ubuntu Dual boot setup?08:55
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chamikalpierre : beep-media-player ;-)08:55
JerkHeadbob2: look dude, I am trying to be civil here, but if you look at my forum post and look at the wiki howto you just posted, I am doing everything the same minus rebuilding the compressed fs, because at this point, I am doing nothing (though that wont be true once I figure out the problem)08:55
chamikaldylan_ : strange08:55
Chii_ChanI am but I dont know much yet >.<08:55
Chii_ChanI have XP Pro and this on here08:55
ogaAnyone experienced when installing ubuntu hoary (the format-partition-and-install option) in installprocess. experienced that it makes the swap-partition double the size as it was before? without prompting it or anything else.08:55
bob2JerkHead: so, you followed the exact instructions on the wiki and found it did not work?08:55
Hendricbob2: it has an onboard via-rhine... but i'm using the PCI Davicom (Cnet PRO)08:55
chamikaldylan_ : which video did u try to see ?08:55
bob2Hendric: ah, ok08:55
JerkHeadbob2: correct08:55
PsynexChii_Chan: are you using XP to handle booting, or GRUB/LILO ?08:55
bob2Hendric: I don't know then, sorry08:55
chamikaldylan_ : win media ? real media ?08:55
bob2JerkHead: including rebuilding the compressed fs?08:55
Chii_ChanGrub08:55
JerkHeadbob2: yes, I did08:55
dylan_quicktime08:55
Hendricbob2: i used the same settings for DNS, Gateway etc... on a realtek Card. it worked fine..08:56
eagleyeanyone still help me get the multiverse repository, Cant get it to show up08:56
dylan_chamikal, quicktime - apple.com/trailers08:56
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chamikaldylan_ : so it works08:56
bob2eagleye: /msg ubotu repositories08:56
madcowmadhey can someone help me play video on ubuntu?08:56
dylan_chamikal, idk yet08:56
dylan_chamikal, wait yes08:56
madcowmadi've tried everything on ubuntuguide08:56
PsynexHmmm.... any chance anyone knows exactly what I need to enter in XP Pro Boot.ini in order to get Ubuntu to load when selected?08:56
dylan_chamikal, you're brilliant08:56
chamikaldylan_ : :)08:56
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[Wiebel] Psynex: google does :P08:56
bob2JerkHead: then prepare a very very polite, coherent email for the ubuntu-devel list, where you explain exactly what you did and the exact error08:56
dylan_chamikal, ok great.....well buh bye08:56
dacrepairhey08:56
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bob2JerkHead: actually send it to the list, not via the forums08:57
Chii_ChanI did not need to configure anything for grub08:57
madcowmadhey can someone help me play video on ubuntu?08:57
bob2madcowmad: "video" plays fine on ubuntu out of the box08:57
chamikalmadcowmad : if you are using totem, try to install totem-xine then w32codecs08:57
dylan_chamikal, wait do you have an AIM address if you dont mind that i could have to ask you questions?08:57
bob2madcowmad: you need to be more specific if some particular thing is not working for you08:57
JerkHeadbob2: I wouldnt be in such a mood if I didnt try everything at my disposal. And I fear I am going to find that its looking for something like /Ubuntu. but something is changing the name to /Ubuntu08:57
[Wiebel] to problem with totem is that it can't handle multiple stream playlists08:57
[Wiebel] (wmf streams)08:57
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JerkHeadbob2: I did send it to the mailing list, probably a good month ago. I also psoted on www.911cd.net/forums with no help08:58
bob2JerkHead: to the ubuntu-devel list?08:58
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JerkHeadNo... to Ubuntu-User. I would think something like this was inappropriate for the devel list, though if you think it is, Im willing to tyr08:59
dylan_chamikal, i go to a web site and it tells me that i need to install additional plugins to see "gif".  what package do  i install there?08:59
djjasondoes anyone know why I am getting "dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)" when I am trying to update firefox08:59
JerkHeaddjjason: something crashed08:59
bob2djjason: that's not the whole error, show us the whole thing in #flood08:59
madcowmadi think i already have totem but how do i install the w32codecs?09:00
bob2djjason: if you're using the broken firefox "backport", that could explain it09:00
djjasonbob3, ok I wasnt sure if I should do that....09:00
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tritiumNotre Dame football calls...09:00
bob2adios!09:00
tritiumsee you, bob209:00
chamikalmadcowmad : use synaptic from System/Administration09:01
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djjasonbob2, I didnt change anything ...I just got a message that updates were available for firefox and tried to install them and then I got this error...which I will paste in #flood now09:01
SpudULikeI am having a real mare getting printing running on this 5.04 box.  I don't seem to be able to get Admin access to the cups server - this is the first hurdle I would like to overcome.  Can anyone else get admin rights?09:01
chamikalmadcowmad : or use terminal as root and do aptitude install totem-xine09:01
Chii_ChanBrb need to reboot so that the change I made is effective09:01
bob2SpudULike: system -> administration -> printers09:01
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chamikalmadcowmad : ubuntu provides by default totem-gstreamer, try totem-xine works a little better even Gstreamer is great09:02
SpudULikeBob2: Yes, but can you get Admin rights there?09:02
jamey3I have just cleaned up the following Ubuntu wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv409:02
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denn^^hi. anyone know what causes debootstrat error on install?09:02
chamikalmadcowmad : if you want to keep totem-gstreamer,install gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg and then do gst-register-0.809:02
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TachyonI'm trying to set it up so that my Ubuntu laptop can access my Windows computer over a wireless network (particularly because I've got a printer hooked up to the Windows machine) but I can't seem to get the connection set up properly.  I've got Samba installed and it was working a few weeks ago. :/09:03
bob2djjason: sudo dpkg --purge --force-depends firefox firefox-gnome-support ; sudo apt-get install firefox firefox-gnome-support09:03
bob2SpudULike: indeed09:03
bob2SpudULike: I assume you were refering to the web ui before?09:03
bob2denn^^: usually means a broken CD09:03
SpudULikebob2:I can access neither.09:03
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bob2Tachyon: you need to figure out which layer has the problem09:03
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Luneyes09:04
bob2SpudULike: really? what happens when you run it from the menu?09:04
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j0nas`can someone help me with my intel ipw2200?  trying to use the howto at: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26623&highlight=ipw2200+wpa, ran into a problem09:04
bob2Tachyon: ie is the network broken entirely?09:04
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chamikalj0nas` : if you use WEP encryption try to use hexa key no ascii09:04
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Tachyonbob2: No, I can connect to the Internet properly from my Ubuntu machine, so it's on the network.  I don't think I quite know how to get it to recognise the Windows computer.  I've got my Windows machine's IP address. . . .09:05
madcowmadchamikal: i keep getting E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)09:05
madcowmadE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?09:05
chamikalj0nas` : because iwconfig didn't work properly with Ascii key09:05
denn^^damn.. already wasted 3 cds burning ubuntu. anyone know how to fix debootstrap error on install?09:05
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bob2madcowmad: the error is pretty clear; make sure you're running it with sudo, and that you don't have any other package management tools open09:05
madcowmadchamikal: that's when i try to do aptitude install totem-xine09:05
bob2denn^^: er, did you check if any of them burnt correctly?09:05
djjasonbob2, when I perform the install it complains that package firefox does not exist09:05
madcowmadchamikal: thanks i'll try one sec09:06
djjasonbob2, isnt the package mozilla-firefox09:06
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j0nas`i tried hex key...09:06
j0nas`didnt work09:06
chamikalmadcowmad : try sudo aptitude install totem-xine09:06
bob2djjason: it is in ubuntu, but not in the backports09:06
j0nas`then i was told it was a firmware issue09:06
j0nas`and to follw the howto09:06
madcowmadchamikal: it worked, i had synaptics open09:06
j0nas`but i am stuck trying to make ieee80211 modules because of a bug in the script09:06
bob2djjason: what does "dpkg -l firefox | tail -n1" print out?09:06
chamikalj0nas` : I have tested Laptop with ipw220 and it works09:06
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bob2er09:06
j0nas`oh?09:06
chamikalmadcowmad : ok09:06
denn^^bob2, how do you check?09:06
bob2any plan involving rebuilding the ipw2200 driver is probably crap09:07
j0nas`what am i doing wrong?09:07
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madcowmadchamikal: what about the w32codecs?09:07
bob2denn^^: boot into expert mode and select "verify cd" from the menu09:07
j0nas`i put in the hex WEP key09:07
chamikalj0nas` : but there was no encryption09:07
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denn^^bob2: i just burned the isos with alcohol09:07
j0nas`also tried the ascii string09:07
denn^^ok brb lemme try that09:07
j0nas`no luck09:07
chamikalmadcowmad : try to see ubuntuguide.org to add other repository09:07
chamikalmadcowmad : and then install w32codecs09:07
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SpudULikebob2:Which menu?  I am using Kubuntu, so I am following System > Print Manager.  This brings up the KDE Control Centre for printers, clicking the Admin button asks me for a password.  Whose password do you put there, users, roots (assuming you've set one), someone you've set up in lppasswd, or something else???09:07
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edulixhi!09:07
Gizmosishi guyz09:07
j0nas`i need wep to work... what do i need to do?09:07
djjasonbob2, its fixed...I did your purge and then fixed the broken packages and it works now09:08
chamikalj0nas` : running hoary or breezy ?09:08
chamikalj0nas` : tested on breezy09:08
j0nas`hoary... breezy as soon as its stable09:08
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[LethAL] j0nas`, Which card/chipset?09:08
chamikalj0nas` : I'm on breezy right now09:08
j0nas`or would you say its reasonably stable?09:08
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madcowmadchamikal: i get the error: E: Couldn't find package w32codecs09:08
[LethAL] j0nas`, I would, and Wireless works better09:09
Belutz!tell madcowmad about w32codecs09:09
thoreauputicSpudULike: possible work-around - type ' sudo kcontrol '09:09
tristanmikedjjason, sorry if I'm too late, but you can check here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6829409:09
djjasonbob2, thanks alot bob209:09
bob2but I don't use kde at all, so you might be better off asking in #kubunt09:09
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j0nas`any ideas on getting wep to work for the time being?09:09
bob2SpudULike: yours09:09
edulixI have a problem with apt. I tried to install a debian package of libqt3c102-mt but I didn't succeed. apt new says "but version xx is to be installed" everytime. I want him to know that, in fact, it's NOT to be installed. everytime09:09
Tachyonbob2: I can also ping my Windows machine's IP from the Ubuntu machine.  So I guess I'm not configuring Samba right or something.09:09
Belutz#kubuntu :)09:09
bob2djjason: np09:09
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djjasontristanmike, thanks but I just fixed it with the help from bob2.....09:09
edulixand apt-get -f install doesn't solve the problem, it just tries to remove 702mb of packages, nonsense!09:09
bob2Tachyon: can you access windows shares from ubuntu?09:09
TachyonNo09:09
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chamikalmadcowmad : http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs09:10
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bob2edulix: wtf09:10
Tachyonbob2: I go to Places -> Network Servers and I see "Windows Network" but there's nothing in it.09:10
bob2edulix: get rid of it and don't ever do that again09:10
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tristanmikedjjason, yeah, just saw that, he's the better guy anyway ;)09:10
chamikalj0nas` : use iwlist and iwconfig :)09:10
SpudULikebob2: OK, well my system is definately stuffed, 'cos that doesn't work.09:10
edulixbob2: of course that's the idea hehe09:10
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j0nas`i have tried09:10
edulixbob2: but how to get rid of it is the main problem now :P09:11
j0nas`it just refuses to work09:11
bob2edulix: sudo dpkg -P --force-depends libqt3c102-mt ; sudo apt-get -f install09:11
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bob2edulix: assuming you unbroke your sources.list09:11
bob2edulix: and didn't install anything else from Debian09:11
bob2SpudULike: ok09:11
edulixbob2: i hope it works09:11
chamikalj0nas` : did u see output of dmesg for error ?09:11
thoreauputicedulix: I'm guessing youare trying to install skype - if so, use the statically compiled package on their site09:11
Da_SWAThow can I mount a MDF/MDS or BIN/CUE image, without converting them?09:12
chamikalj0nas` : maybe the firmware is not placed in the good rep ?09:12
bob2Da_SWAT: you can't09:12
edulixthoreauputic: good guess in fact09:12
bob2Da_SWAT: since they're not actually filesystems09:12
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chamikalDa_SWAT : for bin/cue you have to convert to iso09:12
chamikalDa_SWAT : dunno how to do it without09:12
noTHereOK, I am a complete n00b! I tried running the LiveDVD and watched it set up the RAm drive and load the drivers and everything, but right after it detects my USB mouse (the last command?) it just hangs there waithing for something.  Am I supposed to type GNOMe or something? Does it usually just load the environment straight away?09:13
j0nas`chamikal: dmesg would not print messages about wep failure would it09:13
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ogawhen I put in the Live Preview CD of Ubuntu. It does boot into a installationsprogress. Is it supposed to be like that?09:13
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edulixuhm it's going to download 21.4mb of packages to upgrade, couldn't it just use the ones I have already installed? anyway, I can afford that, because it's only going to remove skype (and I'll install later the statically linked version as suggested)09:13
noTHereyeah, you just type live to start it live09:14
chamikalj0nas` : some kernel output09:14
benkong2netselect-apt-ubuntu did a sources.list and it has a breezy-backports. Is that a good repo?09:14
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Da_SWATbob2, chamikal thnx09:14
ofer0!ubuntuguide09:14
ubotumethinks ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.09:14
chamikalj0nas` : from the driver ipw220009:14
chamikalDa_SWAT : np09:14
oganoTHere, I did, but got into the progress where you choose keyboard-layout etc.09:14
bob2benkong2: no09:14
j0nas`fuck it, im downloading breezy09:14
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benkong2bob2; k thanks09:15
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Da_SWATbob2, chamikal  although it's a bit dissappointing. Daemon tools (windows) can virtually mount them..... :-|09:15
benkong2!faq09:15
ubotuI heard faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy)09:15
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chamikalj0nas` : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=64427&highlight=ipw2200+iwconfig09:15
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Bettong_BOFHanyone know if breezy can use webcams?09:15
bob2Da_SWAT: ?09:15
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bob2Da_SWAT: if it contains a .iso, putting it in the form of a .bin file is stupid to begin with09:16
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bob2Da_SWAT: if it doesn't have a filesystem in it, what is there to mount?09:16
chamikalBettong_BOFH : which on did u have ? you can test by using gnomemeeting09:16
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bob2Bettong_BOFH: depends on the webcam09:16
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Bettong_BOFHit's a GE webcam09:16
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edulixbob2: anyway, I think that apt-get has a really bad behaviour giving this problem. if you cannot install something, you cannot. why should apt-get be so stubborn that he says "I won't do anything more till you install that exact version of that package first". seems buggy behaviour to me. does aptitude fix this kind of problems?09:16
chamikalBettong_BOFH : launch gnomemeeting ;-)09:16
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j0nas`chamikaL: not sure i like the looks of that solution09:17
Bettong_BOFHdo i have to get it first?09:17
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bob2edulix: no, this is due to you misunderstanding how apt works09:17
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Bettong_BOFHgnome-meeting?09:17
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eagleyeCan someone tell me how to get the multiverse, I have universe but multiverse doesnt show09:17
chamikalBettong_BOFH : yes09:17
bob2eagleye: /msg ubotu repositories09:17
Bettong_BOFHok09:17
chamikalj0nas` : :)09:17
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edulixbob2: enlighten me please :P09:17
Bettong_BOFHfor some reason breezy has it already O_o09:17
bob2eagleye: if you really think you edited the file correctly, but it's still not showing up, paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood09:18
tristanmikeeagleye, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto?action=show&redirect=HowToEnableTheMultiverseRepositoryInUbuntu09:18
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Da_SWATbob2, correct questions. But because I'm a former windows user, I still need to ..... uhhh..... 'learn' :P09:18
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Seveasmode #ubuntu +r09:18
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chamikaleagleye : http://ubuntu.ttoine.net/source.list.php?liste%5B%5D=deb+http%3A%2F%2Farchive.ubuntu.com%2Fubuntu%2F+hoary+main+restricted+universe+multiverse&liste%5B%5D=deb+http%3A%2F%2Farchive.ubuntu.com%2Fubuntu%2F+hoary-updates+main+restricted+universe+multiverse&liste%5B%5D=deb+http%3A%2F%2Fsecurity.ubuntu.com%2Fubuntu%2F+hoary-security+main+restricted+universe&ok=G%C3%A9n%C3%A9rer09:18
j0nas`chamikal: oh well... been wanting to give breezy a try for a while now anyway :)09:18
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bob2Da_SWAT: didn't mean to be harsh, sorry09:18
chamikalj0nas` : ;-)09:18
linnerhello Seveas ... could you help me with an install problem?09:19
chamikalj0nas` :  Xorg failed because some xfonts* package missing09:19
j0nas`chamikal: ?09:19
chamikalj0nas` :  don't forget to re/install ubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-base09:19
linneri just reinstalled ubuntu breezy colony 5... last night... and is not starting the x-server09:19
chamikalj0nas` :  for my case09:19
linnerI have an ATI 200M card...09:19
j0nas`ok... it will let me log into shell though still, right?09:20
chamikalI have a Matrox G40009:20
SpudULikeWhat would I need to do to add Gnome to Kubuntu?09:20
denn^^bob2, some bsd file on disc was corrupted09:20
linnerand tritium was telling me that I could use the radeon driver because that's what SuSE was letting me us ...09:20
chamikalSpudUlike : ??????09:20
j0nas`chamikal: by reinstall, you mean apt-get remove, then apt-get install09:20
denn^^bob2, what's the right way to burn ubuntu?09:20
chamikalj0nas` : nope09:20
mjrSpudULike, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop09:20
eamonnSpudULike, sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop09:20
mjrSpudULike, as simple as that09:20
chamikalj0nas` : aptitude instal xfonts*** package moreover so that xorg can launch ;-)09:21
linnerSeveas:  can you guide me through how to get this working?09:21
bob2linner: I really doubt that is the issue09:21
SpudULikeThanks, see, I was truing variations of install gnome !!!09:21
eamonnSpudULike, I meant: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop. mjr's right.09:21
Bettong_BOFHno useing gnome meeting is it possible to connect to a windows computer so they can see too?09:21
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bob2linner: does your X log really not show what's happening?09:21
linnerbob2:  what do you think is the issue?09:21
j0nas`chamikal: im sorry i still dont follow09:21
linnerit's booting up now in recovery mode09:21
bob2denn^^: try it at a slower speed09:21
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chamikalBeetoong_BOFH : if you want to see some Win* user cam they have to use netmeeting09:22
linnerokay bob2 i'm at a root... what command do i type to bring up the x log?09:22
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denn^^bob2, i did it at 4x09:22
Bettong_BOFHcan i show windows users my webcam if i am useing gnome meeting?09:22
j0nas`chamikal: gnome will still start up after install?09:22
chamikaljonas : I have done an update update && aptitude dist-upgrade to switch to breezy09:22
bob2linner: less /var/log/X.whatever09:22
Da_SWATbob2, no problem. It wasn't harsh, but I also didn't say that Windows was logical. The problem is that I made bin/cue of my copywrited game-dvd's (I'm too lazy to switch cd's and dvd's all the time) and now I just want to mount them without losing the 'copyright protection' inside the bin/cue.09:22
linnerok09:22
chamikaljonas : then I have to add some xfonts package to get it worky that's it09:22
bob2denn^^: maybe your burner is broken; try 1x and go make dinner, maybe09:22
j0nas`chamikal: you mean apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade?09:23
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linnerbob2:  i don't know what "whatever" means09:23
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chamikaljonas : yep apt-get and aptitude do the same thing but aptitude is newer09:23
bob2linner: it means "use ls /var/log to find out what it's called, or use your shell's tab completion"09:23
j0nas`chamikal: which xfonts package?09:23
bob2Da_SWAT: hm09:23
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zblachhi09:23
denn^^bob2, i'm reading some google stuff and that problem occurs even on shipped cds09:23
Bettong_BOFHbob2 any idea?09:23
linnerbob2:  I do not know linux what so ever.. so i have to get exact commands unfortunately09:24
zblachis it possible to access a shared dvd burner on a windows computer?09:24
chamikaljonas : xfonts-100dpi, xfonts-75dpi, xfonts-base, xfonts-scalable09:24
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denn^^5.04 iso on web is a CD iso, right? not dvd?09:24
linnerdenn^^:  yes09:24
j0nas`chamikal: simply apt-get (or aptitude) install those packages?09:25
chamikaljonas : yep09:25
linnerdenn^^:  do you have the url?09:25
j0nas`chamikal: okay, simple enough09:25
chamikaljonas : ;-)09:25
linnerdenn^^:  here it is:  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/09:25
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bob2denn^^: yes, some shipped cds are damaged09:26
denn^^http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso09:26
denn^^this is the one i'm burning09:26
bob2denn^^: they are not useful, tho, and should be returned (iirc)09:26
tristanmikedenn^^, I think there's a dvd there somewhere too, it has the install and live and some other things too.09:26
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bob2denn^^: if your cd burner is unable to burn it correctly, it's an issue with your burner or media, not a problem wwith the ubuntu iso09:26
pontAMD64 ubuntu is causing a machine check exeption09:27
zblachcan one burn to a non-local dvd drive?09:27
tristanmikebob2, could the checksum be off?09:27
bob2zblach: not simply, but yes09:27
SpudULikeOut of desperation now, do you think I might be able to install and use one of the other print servers like lpr?09:27
zblachbob2, what is09:27
=== ..[topic/#ubuntu:Seveas] : Official Ubuntu Help channel | Colony 5 is out: http://tinyurl.com/85dry | Upgrading to breezy? http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes | Documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation | Use paste.ubuntulinux.nl for pasting | Found a bug? report it: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com | Firefox problems? -> see http://cyphase.homelinux.com/ | x-common problems -> update dpkg
bob2zblach: simplest would be to just ssh to the remote machine and run cdrecord there09:27
zblachits a windows box09:27
bob2zblach: then #windows or whatever09:27
zblachand a shared drive09:28
bob2I doubt windows can usefully do that09:28
zblachdamn09:28
bob2tristanmike: no09:28
tristanmikeok09:28
Seveasbob2, i doubt windows can usefully do anything :)09:28
denn^^gonna burn it with another cdr-drive09:28
bob2tristanmike: if it contained the same data, it would produce the same checksum09:28
Seveas</rant>09:28
zblach!remote drives09:28
ubotuzblach: Do they come in packets of five?09:28
Seveasubotu, I wish :)09:28
ubotuSeveas: I don't know, could you explain it?09:28
zblach!no, damnit. and thats the problem09:28
edulixthanks bob2, bye!09:28
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tristanmikebob2, unless the download was corrupted?09:28
Seveaszblach, win server lin client or other way around?09:29
bob2tristanmike: then the md5sum of the .iso wouldn't match, either09:29
bob2denn^^: did you check that it downloaded correctly?09:29
zblachSeveas, correct09:29
Seveaszblach, which one :)09:29
tristanmikebob2, ahh, I see, thanx for clearing that up09:29
zblachSeveas, win server, lin client09:29
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pontwhat kernel does Ubuntu 5.10 use ?09:29
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Seveaszblach, install smbfs and try out http://ubuntulinux.nl/files/addsamba09:30
zblachwell, linux HDD-> windows DVD from linux09:30
bob2tristanmike: that is a good point, tho, I didn't think to check if denn^^ had downloaded it correctly09:30
bob2pont: a heavily patched 2.6.1209:30
denn^^how do i check?09:30
Seveaszblach, eh?09:30
Seveasthat sounds weird09:30
denn^^i just used flashget to download it09:30
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bob2denn^^: on windows? download md5sum.exe09:31
denn^^what do i compare the md5 to?09:31
denn^^where do i get the original md5sum i mean09:31
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bob2same place you downloaded it from09:31
bob2in the MD5SUM file, iirc09:31
pontbob2, Im confused i think i will install ubunu another dy09:31
Seveasyup bob209:31
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pontday09:31
zenlunaticIf I download Colony 5 CD (Breezy) and install will I be able to upgrade to the newest version when Breezy official/stable/release (whatever you call it) is released?09:31
denn^^http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ ?09:31
bob2pont: ok...09:32
bob2zenlunatic: yes09:32
eamonnzenlunatic, yes.09:32
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[klined] I am trying to find a hotkey program that will let me use alt-q for numerbpad 7, alt-a for numerbpad 4, etc... there is AutoHotkey for windows but it doesn't work correctly under wine, and ideas?09:32
zenlunaticbob2, eamonn would that be a apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade? or apt-get upgrade?09:32
tristanmikebob2, yeah, my friend had a similar problem, turned out to be checksum09:32
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bob2zenlunatic: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeGuide09:33
bob2tristanmike: remember that the checksum itself is just a shorthand for refering to the data itself09:33
bob2tristanmike: mismatched checksum = mismatched data09:33
eamonnzunlunatic, as bob2 said. It's not that complicated, but do read that doc.09:33
[klined] I am trying to find a hotkey program that will let me use alt-q for numerbpad 7, alt-a for numerbpad 4, etc... there is AutoHotkey for windows but it doesn't work correctly under wine, and ideas?09:34
Bettong_BOFHcan gnome meeting communicate with windows users?09:34
tristanmikebob2, yeah, thanx :)09:34
denn^^bob2, this is the md5 i got from my file f6b3f164c99761234858a4d2c12d084009:34
[klined] hm09:34
denn^^bob2, on my ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso09:34
bob2eagleye: you didn't actually tell it to use the multiverse repository09:34
bob2denn^^: and is that the same as in MD5SUMS?09:34
bob2Bettong_BOFH: yes09:35
Bettong_BOFHok how?>09:35
bob2[klined] : no need to repeat09:35
eagleyeumm, how do i do that.09:35
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bob2[klined] : you can almost certainly do that with xmodmap, but it won't be simple09:35
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denn^^bob2, i can't find the original md509:35
eamonnzunlunatic, actually it's https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade09:35
bob2denn^^: yes you can09:35
tristanmikemd5 is correct09:35
eamonnzenlunatic, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade09:35
denn^^oh i see it09:35
bob2eagleye: by really following the page I pointed you at09:35
Bettong_BOFHBob2 ok how do they do that?09:35
[klined] bob2: thanks09:35
foxinesssmart link modem work with hory but not with breezy -update the kernel- i can not test than breezy online just offline!09:35
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bob2Bettong_BOFH: what?09:35
Bettong_BOFHbob2 use gnomemeeting?09:36
tristanmikewas a shot in the dark09:36
denn^^what's a good app to burn ubuntu iso with? all i've used is alcohol so far09:36
bob2Bettong_BOFH: nevermind then09:36
eagleyeI believe I did, can you tell me that page again.. thank you09:37
Bettong_BOFHum ok09:37
hypn0denn^^, any cd burning app should work09:37
bob2Bettong_BOFH: if you want help, you need to ask a more specific question09:37
Bettong_BOFHso gnomemeeting can't comunicate with windows09:37
bob2Bettong_BOFH: yes, it can09:37
thellamaim downloading breezy live col. 5 at 600kb/s! woohoo! I love speeddownload09:37
Bettong_BOFHok so how do they do that?09:37
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bob2your question is just too soul-crushingly annoying for me to answer09:37
bob2"they"?09:37
Bettong_BOFHlike how can i let my boss who uses windows see what i want him to useing my web cam?09:38
bob2by connecting to him with gnomemeeting09:38
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hypn0Bettong_BOFH, it can with netmeeting i think, u need to install the windows codec on gnomemeeting site09:38
tristanmikehe needs to use netmeeting an you need what bob2 said09:38
Bettong_BOFHok09:39
Bettong_BOFHthanx09:39
tristanmikeand hypn0 too ;)09:39
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thellamaany reason why I can't install debian, kubuntu or ubuntu on my imac g5?09:39
Arkainiumwhat are the disadvantages of using the universe packages>09:40
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eagleyeHey bob2>I believe I did, can you tell me that page again.. I would appreciate it.. and thank you09:40
thoreauputicArkainium: none really unless you need support from Canonical09:40
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thellamawhat is Canonical?09:40
harveyi was wondering where i can get the ubuntu kernel sources09:40
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offbyoneHola09:41
bob2eagleye: wtf09:41
thoreauputicthellama: the company who started Ubuntu09:41
thellamaah09:41
D1harvey, i think you can do apt-get install linux-tree09:41
thellamathanks09:41
bob2eagleye: scroll up and find it09:41
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D1or linux-source09:41
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eamonnArkainium, none that I've noticed, unless you're in a very restricted environment such as a school. You can't get *official* support on universe packages, but I haven't used official support at all (since Warty) and haven't felt any pain.09:41
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D1one or the other.09:41
bob2thellama: www.canonical.com09:41
offbyoneAny (pseudo?) experts at Xorg configuration hanging about here?09:41
Arkainiumso the only way I might actually break something is by using backports?09:41
thellamathanks09:41
harveyd1 thanks09:41
bob2offbyone: it's way way simpler if you just ask your question09:41
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offbyonebob2, you have a point.09:41
eamonnArkainium, yes, backports are evil.09:41
Chii_ChanAnyone here have much experience with ndiswrapper?  Having trouble with a part :/09:42
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offbyoneI'm trying to figure out where the screen resolution preferences app gets its list of resolutions from09:42
Gizmosis /msg NickServ IDENTIFY iloveyou09:42
SeveasArkainium, you not only might, depending on the source you WILL break things09:42
SeveasGizmosis, time to change passwords...09:42
Chii_ChanOnly backport which is usefull in FireFox is session saver09:42
eagleyesorry, but I cant scroll that far up, Sorry to bother you.....09:42
thellamahahahahahahhaa09:42
offbyoneSince it's not showing the two that I've specified in xorg.conf, but appears to instead show all the other ones.09:42
thoreauputicArkainium: well of course you can break your system in all sorts of imaginative ways ;-)09:42
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SeveasGizmosis,  /msg nickserv set password new_password09:42
Chii_ChanGizmosis you should do that09:42
Arkainiumheh.  ok, just wanted to be sure before adding any other repositories to my apt sources.  :P09:42
offbyoneBasically, I want to (and, since it was working in Windows, know I can) run at 1600x1200, 70Hz09:42
Chii_Chanas someone can now kick you off your name by ghosting you09:43
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offbyoneBut there doesn't appear to be a way to force it.09:43
zenlunaticwhy do in the screenshots I see breezy fonts don't look as good as hoary fonts on my system when I have default settings?09:43
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offbyoneAnyone know how to go about fixing this?09:44
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HasHHeadZthats better09:44
aglI need help. I tried to upgrade firefox in synaptic and now I have a broken package and it wont reinstall or open firefox. Can anyone advice me, I am a new ubuntu user.09:44
thoreauputic!tell offbyone about fixres09:44
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satoriupgrading to breezy.. getting this09:44
satorilocale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory09:44
satorilocale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory09:44
satorilocale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory09:44
satoriis that normal?09:45
thellamaUbotu: give me some cheese09:45
ubotuNo idea, thellama09:45
thellamaUbotu: why?09:45
ubotuWhy not?09:45
Chii_ChanI downloaded and installed breezy off the bat so Idont know >.<09:45
satoriand worse is it bad09:45
satorilol09:45
eamonnagl, do you use backports? There's been a problem, since backports uses a package called firefox and the official ubuntu uses mozilla-firefox09:45
thellamaubotu: voulez vous couchez avec moi ce soir?09:45
ubotuWish i knew, thellama09:45
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lakinSeveas, thanks for kicking me from ubuntu-unregged, but is there a way to have a bot in ubuntu-unregged which re-checks the 'registered' status and puts people back into #ubuntu.  Xchat simply fails to register me before joining #ubuntu, so I always end up in #ubuntu-unregged.09:45
Chii_ChanAnyone here now much about NdisWrapper?09:46
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thoreauputiclakin: try putting your password in the server field instead of the nick field09:47
lakinthanks thoreauputic.09:47
aglhi eamonn, yes I do09:47
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thellamalakin: did it work?09:49
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offbyonethoreauputic, it looks like the monitor is reporting that it does not support the resolution I want, although I know that it does.09:49
Tobadoes anyone else get issues with nautilus suddently hogging a lot of ram and cpu for no particular reason?09:49
zblachhi09:49
lakinlooks like it.09:49
thellamak09:49
offbyoneHow can I force it to do the resolution I want?09:49
zblachi'm in gnome. how can I switch to KDE?09:49
TobaI was trying to move some big files09:49
Tobalike 30 mb each09:49
Tobaso nautilus freezes and starts hogging cpu09:49
thellamazblach: did you install kde?09:49
Tobawhy does it suck so much?09:49
zblachthellama, yup09:49
thoreauputicoffbyone: did you run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?09:49
Chii_ChanError for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A) :09:49
Chii_Chan    SET failed on device wlan0 ; Invalid argument.09:49
Chii_Chan   Anyone know why I would be getting this when I attempt to enter the password to access my wireless network?09:49
Tobaand what can I use as an alternative?09:50
Ainvarrealplayer sucks really really bad when it comes to audio and all. Having to disable the esd server just to get sound.... makes me a sad sad panda09:50
Arkainiumwill the update to breezy from hoary be smooth when it's released?09:50
thellamait should show up at the login screen uder sessions zblach09:50
zblachok cool.09:50
offbyonethoreauputic, a few times.  I've got about ten backups of xorg.conf lying around, now.09:50
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lakinDoes anyone know if the kernels in breezy come patched with the dsdt-initramfs patches which allow loading of new dsdt.dsl at boot time?09:50
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thoreauputicoffbyone: ah - try reading the message at the top of the xorg.conf file09:51
Seveaslakin, we can't move people from one channel to the other...09:51
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lakinSeveas, you move me from #ubuntu, to #ubuntu-unregged, (or at least you redirect me there)09:51
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thoreauputicoffbyone: if you edited it manually, dpkg-reconfigure won't do anaything09:51
Seveaslakin, setting auto-rejoin works, during these kick-sprees I set the channel on invite only and a redirect to #ubuntu :)09:51
offbyoneI see that09:51
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offbyoneI'll give it a shot.09:51
lakinSeveas, in any case, i've fixed it on my side, so it should be fine.09:51
Seveas(y)09:52
hd420anyone used pylucene under ubuntu?09:52
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pat_hey i need some help with my sound09:52
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Harveywoops09:52
Harveyi already had it open09:52
Harveyso yeah i need some help with my sound card09:53
Flying-Penguinanyone here use imwheel?09:53
Harveythe sound is all scratchy09:53
Harveyand i only have 2 working on my 5.1 system working09:53
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Harveyi have a sound blaster live 24bit card09:53
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sorush20is it possible tohave two computer running exactly the same configued system but one is turned off only for back up purposes..09:55
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sorush20what does background this process to examin the situation mean..09:56
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Harveysorush20, use rsync but the other computer has to be on09:56
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hd420anyone used pylucene under ubuntu?09:56
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Nomad_1Is there a program out there for decrypting dvds and saving the resultant files on the harddrive?09:56
JetlagJenI'm having trouble with nvidia-glx. It seems to be installed, but isn't being working. Is there someone here who could help me out?09:57
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offbyonethoreauputic, thanks -- I'll pop off and test this, now.09:57
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linnerhey ya'll... what folder would sounds be located in?09:58
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Nomad_1linner, Sounds for what mate?09:58
linnerNomad_1:  gaim09:59
thoreauputiclinner: /usr/share/sounds probably09:59
seatouch!tell me about ntfs09:59
linnerso there isn't one folder for all sounds?09:59
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linnerthoreauputic:  hello :)  thank you09:59
linnerthank you09:59
linner:)09:59
thoreauputiclinner: yw :)10:00
linnerthoreauputic:  nope... there is no sounds folder10:00
seatouchhey thoreauputic tell me which codecs to install to play mp3 and mpeg1,2,310:00
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thoreauputiclinner: hang on a sec10:00
linnerthoreauputic:  ok10:00
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thoreauputiclinner: /usr/share/sounds/gaim  << that's where mine are10:02
linnerthor10:02
linnerthoreauputic:  ok... let me look again10:02
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linneri don't even have a gaim folder10:02
linnerthat's what's so weird10:02
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thoreauputiclinner: ls in that dir gives  >> arrive.wav  leave.wav  receive.wav  redalert.wav  send.wav10:03
poweruserhow do I make folder shortcuts like in windows? So when I press a folder on my desktop I get into /urs/etc/opera10:03
schadfieldDo you have GAIM installed ;-)10:03
linnerthoreauputic:  nope.. no sounds folder no gaim folder10:03
poweruserfor example10:03
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linnerschadfield:  yes10:03
poweruseranyone?10:03
TachyonOkay . . . my machine is now on the network.  But now I'm having trouble adding a new printer.  I've got a Canon i560 hooked up to my Windows XP computer, which is connected over a wireless network, and I'm trying to use Samba to add it to my Ubuntu machine.  But every time I follow the instructions, nothing happens.  So I guess I'm entering the wrong information. . . .10:03
linnerhmmm10:03
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thoreauputiclinner: erm - id this ubuntu ?10:03
thoreauputic*is10:03
linnerthoreauputic:  why yes it is :)10:04
thoreauputiclinner: how did you install gaim?10:04
linnerthoreauputic:  it was already working when i loaded it10:04
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thoreauputiclinner: that directory *must* exist10:04
linnermeaning already loaded with the OS10:04
ksmurfanyone have an idea why my wifi card would be seen with lspci but not loaded?  It was working but this morning on starting it was not found.  ???10:04
linnerthoreauputic:  nope... :(10:04
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linnerdo i need to log in as sudo?10:04
thoreauputiclinner: cd /usr/share/sounds && ls -l10:04
thoreauputicno10:04
linnerok it comes up in terminal10:05
linnerbut not in the gui\10:05
dkmpoweruser, make a launcher10:05
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dkmpoweruser, "create launcher" and then use the command nautilus /path/to/dir10:05
thoreauputiclinner: from that directory, type  nautilus &10:06
offbyonethoreauputic, no go.10:06
linnerthoreauputic:  so how to i open it?10:06
offbyoneStill 1280x102410:06
linnerok10:06
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prolific_hello10:06
poweruserthanks10:06
thoreauputiclinner: ^^10:06
prolific_how do i set $SOURCE equal to /usr/local/10:06
linnerthoreauputic:  it says it can't display location10:06
Snobloweri have absolutely no idea what i'm doing, can someone give me a walk-through on how to setup partitions so that i don't have to install windows xp over ubuntu? PM me if you don't mind. thanks.10:06
thoreauputiclinner: umm....10:06
hd420prolific_: man 3 setenv10:06
CaptainMorgansup peeps10:06
CaptainMorgan?10:06
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linnerthoreauputic:  what is nautilus?10:07
thoreauputiclinner: in the file manager, select "file system" and navigate to /usr/share/sounds10:07
thoreauputiclinner: nautilus is the name of the file manager10:07
linneroh okay10:07
linnerlet me try10:07
linnerthoreauputic:  ok... there it is10:08
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linnerweird10:08
thoreauputiclinner: it never went away :D10:08
ksmurfanyone have an idea why my wifi card would be seen with lspci but not loaded?10:09
thoreauputiclinner: *grin*10:09
Harveywhy would gnome sounds be messing up alsa so that it doesnt work?10:09
ksmurfUt seems to be Athros based10:09
Harveyit says that my card is busy10:09
Harveyis there a way to fix that?10:09
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linnerthoreauputic:  so let me understand this... I can't copy and paste sounds???10:10
seatouchhey guys10:10
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seatouchi got a problem with ubuntu-base10:10
seatouchits broken10:10
funky__hi people10:10
seatouchand i cant reinstall/fix it10:10
seatouchroot@leet:/home/seatouch # aptitude install ubuntu-base10:10
seatouchReading package lists... Done10:10
seatouchBuilding dependency tree10:10
seatouchReading extended state information10:10
seatouchInitializing package states... Done10:10
seatouchSegmentation fault10:10
thoreauputiclinner: not in that directory, without sudo, no10:10
seatouchcan anyone help me ?10:10
linnerthoreauputic:  so how do i do that?10:10
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funky__I got a lot of seg faults when I try to purge some config files10:10
thoreauputiclinner: anything you write outside your home dir and /tmp needs sudo10:11
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linnerhow do i log in as sudo?10:11
deFrysk!tell linner about sudo10:11
Chii_Chantype sudo and the command10:11
thoreauputiclinner: run  gksudo nautilus to have sudo access - but be very careful :)10:11
Chii_Chanthen put in your admin pw10:11
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seatouchhello10:11
othernoobcdrecord recognizes my dvdrw only as 4x although it's 8x, any way to fix this?10:11
linnerthoreauputic:  ok... thank you :)10:11
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seatouchChii_Chan, u know how to fix my problem with ubuntu-base?10:12
Chii_Chanprobably not :/10:12
Chii_ChanI just installed linux for the first time yesterda10:12
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Harveycan someone link me to the page to get aditional repositories?10:12
seatouchoh10:12
seatouchok10:12
Chii_ChanAm still stuck trying to figure out ndiswrapper10:12
thoreauputic!tell Harvey about repos10:12
haasteemhi, i just installed a new dvd-rom drive instead of a cd-rom drive... how do i mount it?10:13
linnerthoreauputic:  that worked perfectly ... thank yoU!10:13
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seatouchthoreauputic, hey10:13
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linner:)10:13
thoreauputicseatouch: ?10:13
seatouchthoreauputic, my ubuntu-base is broken10:13
seatouchthoreauputic, and i cant fix it using aptituder10:13
seatouchthoreauputic, and i cant fix it using aptitude10:13
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seatouchany other way to fix it?10:14
thoreauputicseatouch:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure ubuntu-base  ?10:14
dkmhaasteem, AFAIK it should mount automatically, have you tried inserting a disc?10:14
seatouchthoreauputic, ill try thta10:14
linlinis it possible to install ubuntu hoary and osx on an imac and dual boot like windows10:14
aglhi I need help, my firefox died - i tried to upgrade it through synaptic. A package became broken, perhaps it was because I used the backports. I tried removing it and reinstalling - with no result. I still cant open firefox. Please help.10:14
thoreauputiclinner: I *thought* that was a rather sudden departure ;)10:15
zxsykcoHarvey: sudio nano /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the corresponding lines.10:15
seatouchthoreauputic, its still broken10:15
Belutzagl: see topic10:15
zxsykcoOr packages.ubuntu.com10:15
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thoreauputicseatouch: I think you need to be more specific10:15
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Belutzagl: or try killall firefox-bin and re-run firefox10:15
j0nas`sudo apt-get remove firefox && sudo apt-get remove mozilla firefox && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox10:15
seatouchthoreauputic, when i try to fix using aptituder it says segmental fault10:15
haasteemdkm: no, i haven't and i can't open it in ubuntu right now since i don't have control, right?10:15
BaconTastesGoodI'mm running 5.1a and Network Properties doesn't show up.  I click System | Adminisrtation | Network, it idles for a bit...then nothing happens.  No dialog or anything.10:15
j0nas`sudo apt-get remove firefox && sudo apt-get remove mozilla-firefox && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox10:15
thoreauputicagl: see /topic10:15
j0nas`rather10:16
BaconTastesGoodAny idea what might be causing that?10:16
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seatouchthoreauputic, so anyway to fix the broken package (ubuntu-base)10:16
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BaconTastesGoodalso, I don't recall setting up a root user...is that an Ubuntu thing?10:16
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P229BaconTastesGood: yep10:16
NabilHello!10:16
dkmhaasteem, im not sure i understand. cant u open it manually (like, pressing a button on the front of it :D)10:16
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thoreauputicseatouch: you need to tell us in what way it is broken10:16
j0nas`BaconTastesGood: sudo passwd root10:16
seatouchit broken thats all i know10:17
j0nas`to change root pwd10:17
BaconTastesGoodah10:17
jrattner1When I boot ubuntu, I'm greated with a choice to boot either ubuntu or windows, is there any way that I could change the bootloader to something a little more aestetically pleasing, like with graphics?10:17
seatouchwhen i try to use synaptic it says so10:17
BaconTastesGoodokay, so about that Network thing10:17
seatouchthoreauputic, any way to see how its broken?10:17
P229BaconTastesGood: you can force a normal root user by sudo su - and setting the password, I think10:17
BaconTastesGoodany idea what I can check to see why it's not giving me any network properties10:17
thoreauputicseatouch: paste the full error on the pastebin10:17
haasteemdkm: or what should i adjust in my fstab?10:17
ksmurfanyone have an idea why my wifi card would be seen with lspci but not loaded? It seems to be athreos based but is unknown I had it working in 2.6.12-8 and 2.6.12-9-686.  I known my madwifi is working because my dlinkg650 is going.  Any ideas?10:17
NabilI have encountered a strange phenomenon in which GRUB gets stuck at the loading screen, "GRUB Loading, please wait", and does not move. What might this be caused by? Any insight?10:17
P229BaconTastesGood: ifconfig10:17
zxsykcoBase iinstall for ubuntu=root passwd set to * so no log in as root. Expert install=root passwd during install ..10:18
ksmurfnabil.... try addinf vga=ask10:18
ksmurftry adding...10:18
Nabilksmurf, where am I to add this? to grub.conf?10:18
seatouchthoreauputic, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d249510:18
linlinis there any partition tools for linux that will let me to resize?10:19
linlinpreferbly with a gui10:19
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ksmurfnabil /boot/grub/menu.lst or edit at boot time10:19
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JetlagJenDoes anyone have any suggestions how I can get nvidia-glx to work? I followed the "binary driver how to" on the wiki, but it won't work.10:19
zxsykcoTo make a passwd for root type sudo passwd and supply root passwd that you wish to use.10:19
seatouchwell thoreauputic ?10:19
Daveywhich package should I install for firefox? mozilla-firefox* or firefox* ?10:20
ksmurflinlin.... get a live cd and do it from that but only if you backup your important first10:20
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dkmhaasteem, you should add something like "/dev/hdb(or where ever ur device is located) /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user, noauto 0 0" but its supposed to be handled automatically10:20
ksmurfjetlag Breezy?10:20
shekharcan someone guide me towards making skype work?10:20
dkmhaasteem, should == could10:20
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JetlagJenksmurf: no, Hoary10:20
thoreauputicseatouch: why are you installing ubuntu-base ? it should be installed already10:21
seatouchits broken10:21
seatouchnot sure why10:21
seatouchthoreauputic, well i didnt update when i installed10:21
dkmhaasteem, what happens if you insert a cd/dvd. doesn't it get mounted automatically?10:21
seatouchmaybe thats why eh10:21
haasteemdkm: hmmm... i do have that...10:21
ksmurfwhat does it die on?10:21
dkmhaasteem, i dont get your problem :D10:21
ksmurfanyone have an idea why my wifi card would be seen with lspci but not loaded? It seems to be athreos based but is unknown I had it working in 2.6.12-8 and 2.6.12-9-686.  I known my madwifi is working because my dlinkg650 is going.  Anyone?10:21
seatouchthoreauputic, tell me one way that i dont have to update the openoffice stuff when i install ubuntu10:21
thoreauputicseatouch: umm - could you possibly be any more vague about your problem10:21
dkmhaasteem, what happens if u insert a cd/dvd?10:21
haasteemdkm: how do i open the dvd if it not mounted?10:22
jrattner1Where in the rc.d file is the clock set to an internet site?10:22
ksmurfhaasteem open?10:22
dkmhaasteem, aren't there a button?10:22
seatouchwell tell me how to cancel the openoffice and other unessential updates pls thoreauputic10:22
dkmhaasteem, else, use eject10:22
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dkmhaasteem, "eject cdrom"10:22
haasteemdkm: yes, but that doesn't work10:22
ksmurfif it's a laptop use fn f110:22
haasteemnot even with my cd-burner that does show up10:22
thoreauputicseatouch: erm - sudo aptitude hold openoffice.org ?10:23
jrattner1Where can i disable SMTP from booting at startup?10:23
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seatouchthoreauputic, i mean after format10:23
seatouchbefore using root terminal10:23
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seatouchwhen installing and unpacking packages10:23
ksmurfjetlag how did you install... what errors did you have.  use pastebin if you want to paste anythinh10:23
dkmhaasteem, what doens't work, eject or the button on the dvd drive?10:24
thoreauputicseatouch: i haven't the faintest idea what you mean - you need to make it clear what the heck you are doing10:24
haasteemboth10:24
linlinksmurf what utility on the livecd10:24
ksmurfumount -f /dev/hdc10:24
seatouchthoreauputic, the thing is i dont want to download the openoffice things when i install10:24
seatouchso i didnt plug in my connection wire and installed10:25
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seatouchso i got this problem of the ubuntu-base10:25
ksmurfon mepis it's qparted or gparted10:25
dkmhaasteem, if no disc is inserted/mounted, i think it sounds kinda "iffy" that you cant eject with the button10:25
CaptainMorganIm connected to a server using ssh and Im getting the GUI but I want the terminal for that particular server... any suggestions?10:25
ksmurfI think10:25
thoreauputicseatouch: then do a server install and add evrything yourself10:25
seatouchthoreauputic,  thanks :)10:25
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haasteemdkm: it's been like that ever since i started running ubuntu10:25
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thoreauputicseatouch: you need to know how to of course...10:25
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haasteemi ca'nt use the buttons on the drives10:25
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Daveyok, so Firefox is broken :/10:26
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HfuyEvening all.10:26
JetlagJenksmurf: I followed the "howto" to install the driver via synaptic. I didn't get any errors at that point. I tried to run a game (Enemy Territory) and it crashed straight away. /var/log/Xorg.0.log has the line "Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X driver not found)"10:26
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BelutzDavey: see /topic ?10:26
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ksmurffirfox is not broken unless you use backports10:26
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Belutz!ops10:26
ubotu[ops]  Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth10:26
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dkmhaasteem, if you reboot the computer. does the drivebay open before ubuntu starts up?10:26
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HfuyWhat's Ubuntu like on laptops, particularly regarding widescreen displays and suspend to RAM/disk support?10:27
DaveyBelutz, an url doesn't help without a browser ;)10:27
Belutzspambots10:27
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haasteemdrivebay?10:27
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CaptainMorganIm connected to a server using ssh and Im getting the GUI but I want the terminal for that particular server... any suggestions?10:27
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Seveassorry for the delay10:27
haasteemdkm: drivebay?10:27
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ksmurfanyone have an idea why my wifi card would be seen with lspci but not loaded? It seems to be athreos based but is unknown I had it working in 2.6.12-8 and 2.6.12-9-686.  I known my madwifi is working because my dlinkg650 is going. the laptop is an acer travelmate 231010:27
BelutzDavey: sudo apt-get remove firefox, sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox mozilla-firefox-gnome-support10:27
ksmurf231210:28
nybblehey everybody,10:28
BelutzSeveas: it's ok, everyone is busy :)10:28
DaveyBelutz, I did that10:28
Belutzhey nybble10:28
KowalskiI have tried to install Kubuntu on my 15" powerbook under Virtual PC 7 with dismal results... Screen problems... can hardly read the display10:28
dkmhaasteem, what i mean is, does the drive open then. If you press the button on the front before ubuntu starts (during boot, like at the bios screen or something like that)10:28
nybblehas anyone installed the most recent breezy kernel updates?10:28
BelutzDavey: try killall firefox-bin and re-run firefox10:28
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ksmurfI have10:28
emiledkm: it would open before it's mounted10:28
ksmurfnybble.10:28
nybbleksmurf: any issues?10:28
Daveythank you Belutz :D10:28
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BelutzDavey: you're welcome10:29
emiledkm: you can offcourse eject10:29
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haasteemdkm: didn't try that yet10:29
dkmemile, he says its not mouted and that eject doesnt work10:29
squirrelpimpHi:-)10:29
ksmurfNo not much except after fonts. but I uninstalled existing packs and reinstall after updates were done10:29
squirrelpimpI have a bit off-topic question:-)10:29
haasteememile: that's the problem... it doesn't...10:29
dkmhaasteem, the only reason im asking is because i think it sounds wierd that its not mounted, and still doesnt want to eject10:30
haasteemi tried mounting with mount /media/cdrom010:30
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nybblehmmm, alright... every time i update to the recent kernel i cant start X at all, so i'm skeptical10:30
nybbleand its usually because of my touchpad10:30
haasteemit says that /dev/hdd doesn't exit10:30
KowalskiHas anyone here installed Kubuntu under Virtual PC 7.x running on a Powerbook with Tiger?10:30
ksmurfwell back up xorg.cong10:30
nybbleksmurf, i do10:30
haasteemdkm: right10:30
ksmurfthen if there is an issue you can revert....10:30
dkmhaasteem, u changed drives right?10:30
haasteemyes10:30
ksmurfI get that on my other box10:31
dkmhaasteem, sure the new one is on /dev/hdd?10:31
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haasteemdkm: my cdrom drive broke and i replaced it with a dvdrom10:31
nybbleksmurf: yea...10:31
haasteemyes it is10:31
haasteemdkm: my cd burner is hdc10:31
dkmhaasteem, okay. just checking :)10:31
haasteemhehe10:31
ksmurfI have an internal card that won't work right now..... It only shows up when it's hungry10:31
binalo, is there a problem with the new Firefox packages or is it just me.  dpkg reports a load of errors and exits with a status of 1 when i do sudo apt-get upgrade10:32
nybbleLOL ksmurf10:32
nybble"when its hungry"10:32
dkmhaasteem, if u do a 'dmesg | grep DVD' does everything look well?10:32
emilewon't eject with 'eject' command either?10:32
ksmurfya.... wants a byte...10:32
dkmemile, nope. its acting pretty wierd :p10:32
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JetlagJenSomeone on another channel has suggested a change to /etc/X11/xorg.conf so I'm going to go try that. Cheers, guys.10:33
dkmemile, which was why i asked if whe had checked if the drive could eject during boot (maybe its b0rked)10:33
emiledkm, does verbose ejecting give any more info?10:33
nybblelol10:33
ksmurfseeya jet10:33
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dkmemile, dunno10:33
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emiledkm, eject -v10:33
dkmemile, thell haasteem :-P10:33
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haasteemdkm, emile: $ eject cdrom0 --> eject: unable to open `/dev/hdd'10:34
ksmurfI have an internal card that won't work right now..... It only shows up when it's hungry.  It is seen with lspci but never loaded.  Athreos based .  I know athreos works because the othe wifi card is a g650 and it works great10:34
haasteemit seems that it doesn't see the thing altogether10:34
ksmurfany idea?10:34
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dkmhaasteem, have u tried looking at the dmesg output? does it detect it?10:35
haasteemdkm: this is what it says: hdc: LG CD-RW CED-8080B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive10:35
haasteemhdc is the cd burner10:36
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haasteemdkm: so i guess the second device is the dvdrom10:36
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Hikaru79is the flash plugin for opera available in the ubuntu repos? Or should I install it manually?10:37
dkmhaasteem, there should be a line like that decting a second drive, like "hdd: YOUR_DVD_DRIVE"10:37
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BaconTastesGoodgah, this sucks10:37
jrattner1How do I stop sendmail from starting at boot time10:37
dkmhaasteem, the line u posted only listed one device10:37
BaconTastesGoodI try to do sudo and I get "Could not lookup ubuntu by gethostbyname()"10:37
BaconTastesGoodwtf?10:37
haasteemdkm: no, it doesn't give that10:37
BaconTastesGoodso I can't sudo at all right now10:37
BaconTastesGoodwhich means I can't alter my net settings10:37
dkmhaasteem, okay, then its not detected, which means its 100% not mounted. so, its not good news that it wont open when u press the open button on it10:38
Nabilksmurf, I implemented your suggestion, no change. Any further suggestions?10:38
haasteemshit10:38
dkmhaasteem, sure its corrected probertly? it got power and everything?10:38
ksmurfhmmm..... try nocpi10:39
nybbleBaconTastesGood: try rebooting in "recovery Mode"10:39
ksmurfhmmm..... try noacpi10:39
haasteemwhat could be wrong?10:39
ksmurfor disable frambuffer10:39
haasteemlemme check10:39
ksmurfor try to reboot to another kernal10:39
JaZyLNXcan anyone help me out with a soudn issue, i have an audigy 110:39
haasteemdkm: hmmm...10:40
JaZyLNXand it looks to be that the machine can see the card, but i can't hear anything when i test with mp310:40
Nabilksmurf, maybe you aren't understanding... grub does not load.10:40
dkmhaasteem, try rebooting and see if you can open it at the bios screen, and look at the bios output to see if it detects it10:40
haasteemdkm: or you plug it10:40
BaconTastesGoodbut why do I get that sudo error?10:40
BaconTastesGoodthis is a completely fresh install10:40
haasteemcrap10:40
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JaZyLNXfresh install*10:40
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nybbleit cant find itself10:40
Nabilksmurf the MBR-level loading stage is where it locks up...10:40
nybblefor some reason10:40
dkmhaasteem, what? :D10:40
haasteemdkm: been drinking last night....10:40
BaconTastesGoodwell, that doesn't sound good =)10:40
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ksmurfNabil.... OH.  Sorry.... on a dual boot setup?10:40
Nabilksmurf, no10:40
dkmhaasteem, wasn't plugged in? :-P10:40
emilehehe10:40
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haasteemdkm: it's hard to admit10:41
ksmurfouch....10:41
haasteembut it seems i forgot something10:41
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ksmurfon the primary disk?10:41
haasteemcan you  believe it?10:41
dkmhaasteem, okay, then its easily fixed :D10:41
haasteemindeed10:41
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haasteemdkm: this is really embarassing10:42
emilehaastem: but does it eject now?10:42
haasteemcrap10:42
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haasteememile: gotta plug still10:42
haasteemgonna do that after turining off the pc10:42
emilehaastem: hurry, you can put your next beer on the tray when it's ejected ;-)10:42
dkmhaasteem, naah, dont be embarassed. it happens :D10:42
haasteememile: good one :-)10:43
Chii_ChanThis is somewhat frustrating10:43
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haasteemdkm, emile: anyways, thanks guys10:43
dkmhaasteem, np10:43
emileyw10:44
haasteemi guess i was doing too much multitasking ;-)10:44
haasteemcool10:44
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haasteemok, gonna plug and restart10:44
haasteemlater10:44
Chii_ChanError for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A) :10:44
Chii_Chan    SET failed on device wlan0 ; Invalid argument.10:44
Chii_ChanWhy would I get this when I try set a pw for ndiswrapper?10:45
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thoreauputicalias10:46
thoreauputicbah10:46
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Chii_Chanbbl have to print some stuff off which is located on my windows partition >.<10:47
kataklysmhow come on my 386 kernel i can build a module fine and install it into the kernel using modprobe, but when i try to make the module using the 686 kernel i get an error, and when i try to modprobe an existing .ko, i get an error as well, what is up with this?10:48
dkmanybody here using nfs? it takes like a minute for me to mount a nfs share here, is that normal?10:48
henkekataklysm, what is this error you are getting?10:48
henkedkm, do you have portmap running on the client?10:48
othernoobdoes anyone here have a dvd burner?10:49
kataklysmmake: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-686/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.10:49
kataklysmmake: *** [default]  Error 210:49
dkmhenke,afaik :D if rpcinfo -p list it, its running right?10:49
kataklysmhenke: thats the stop error i get when just running make, even after doing a make clean10:50
dkmhenke, checks ps output one sec..10:50
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dkmhenke, yes. its running10:50
henkedkm, it should be :) have you checked your logs to see if any related program is complaining?10:51
dkmhenke, lol wait sorry one second. im being lame, i was using the wrong prompt was on the server :D10:51
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dkmhenke, its not running on the client10:53
dkmhenke, portmap10:53
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zenwhennice10:53
zenwheni dont have sound with my audigy in breezy10:53
test34Is there Quicktime plugin for Firefox available anywhere ?10:53
henkedkm, install nfs-common on the client.10:53
kataklysmhenke: nevermind, when i upgraded to the 2.6.12-686, it didnt install the linux headers for 686, thats what was wrong, i got it now..10:53
kataklysmthat might ought to be included in the update part10:54
henkekataklysm, good, you solved it by yourself :)10:54
kataklysmif u upgrade your kernel and have the headers for the previous kernel installed, then update manager will flag that you need to install the headers for the kernel you are upgrading to10:54
TachyonI'm having trouble adding a new printer to my Ubuntu machine.  The printer is a Canon i560 connected to my Windows XP machine.  I've followed the steps to add a Samba printer but it isn't working. :/10:54
difetahi all! Whenever I try to start the xserver I get an error saying Skipping "/usr/lib/modules/libfb.a:fbmmx.o": No Symbols found..  The next thing that happens is x Segfaults.10:55
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difetaANy ideas?10:55
kataklysmthat might save some people some trouble10:55
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dkmhenke, thanks alot :D10:55
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dennnnnanyone know what the default root password is? when i was installing ubuntu, it never asked me to put a password10:56
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Kyral!tell dennnnn about sudo10:56
sobersabre:)10:56
sobersabreis breezy's repository in sync with colony 5  ?10:56
henkedkm, working better now?10:57
sobersabre( or vice versa ..)10:57
Kyralsobersabre, Colony 5 was a snapshot of the Breezy Repos at that time10:57
dkmhenke, it mounts like.. BAM.. now :D10:57
Kyralso they prolly are more updates10:57
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thewayofzensomeone had pasted a REPO for the java runtime environments the other day10:58
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thewayofzenanyone remember what it was10:58
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dkmhenke, so yes. its working much better, thanks :-D10:58
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thoreauputic!java10:58
ubotuTo install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java or, for Sun's Java, ask me about !sunjava10:58
Kyralyah, do we have to go to Marillat for Java and w32codecs now?10:58
Kyral!sunjava10:58
ubotuFor Sun-Java debs add this line to your /etc/apt/sources.list (for hoary) deb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ hoary java  ; or go to seveas.ubuntulinux.nl (for Breezy)10:58
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henkedkm, excellent10:58
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sorush20Hi guys.. I'm using breezy now.. but there are some problem with the computer..10:59
henkesorush20, explain your problems10:59
sobersabrehenke, don't you read his thoughts ?10:59
zenwhenanyone running breezy and using an audigy?11:00
henkesobersabre, only when I feel like it11:00
sobersabrezenwhen, what's audigy ?11:00
sobersabreisn't it an audio app that requires jack ?11:01
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henkesobersabre, a sound card11:01
KyralAudigy is a brand of Sound card11:01
Brunelluswhat is SIOCADDRT and what does it do?11:01
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henkeBrunellus, in what context are you getting this?11:01
dkmzenwhen, I am11:01
sobersabreah! it as soundblaster live that can playback in 24 bit, but cannot record in 24 bit!11:01
sobersabrenow i remember :)11:02
zenwhendkm, did it just work?11:02
rejdencan anybody answer me few questions about setuping LoCoTeams?11:02
Brunellushenke:  trying to connect to my LAN via a wireless connection11:02
sobersabream i correct ?11:02
zenwhenbecause this is the first time I have ever seen my card not instantly work in a distro.11:02
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Brunellusmy AP shows an attempt to connect from my computer's wlan adaptor's MAC address11:02
henkeBrunellus, it would be easier if you gave more information. What card, what error you are getting, etcetera11:02
TachyonHmm . . . when I try to add a printer over Samba, it doesn't show up in the Printers view.  No error message, nothing . . . it just doesn't get added.11:03
zenwhenI have been using hoary forever, used warty before that, slackware before that, and fedora before that, and never had to do anything to get my card working.11:03
Brunellushenke:  the error is SIOCADDRT: network unreachable11:03
zenwhenbreezy is much less usable at this point in dev than hoary was.11:03
sobersabrezenwhen, and what is the problem... have you tried alsaconf ?11:03
Brunellusthe card is a Linksys 802.11b PCI adaptor--can't tell you exactly what chipset.  it's using the LSIPNDS via ndiswrapper11:04
zenwhenthe card is configured11:04
zenwheni just get no sound11:04
zenwhenalsamixer shows the card11:04
dkmzenwhen, i installed it yesterday, and after the install everything (including sound) worked fine, but then there was updates in the update notifyer, it borked up (x-common tried to overwrite some fonts it wasnt allowed to) during installation of these and HAL got messed up after this too11:04
zenwhenoh11:04
sobersabrezenwhen, how about playing the faders....11:04
dkmzenwhen, after a reboot nothing worked, no soundcard no network nothing11:04
zenwheni guess i need to go back to hoary and hope to god breezy gets to be useable soon.11:04
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SgtOmg I made it11:05
Brunellushenke:  I can see my access point if I run iwlist scan11:05
Sgtcept this isnt the nickname I chose11:05
zenwheni am tired of running hoary, for real.11:05
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SgtWhat the hell?11:05
sobersabrezenwhen, if you load the driver manually it should be ok.11:05
sorush20Brunellus: are the lights on on the card is it a pci,11:05
Brunellusyes the lights are on11:05
zenwhensobersabre, the dirve ris loaded11:05
SgtHow do I change my IRC nickname?11:05
jrattner1Why does my battery die so quickly on my laptop11:05
sobersabrewhat about the faders ?11:05
dkmzenwhen, reinstalling hal and using dpkg to force the x-common package fixed everything11:05
nybblehas anyone compiled kopete 3.5 on ubuntu?11:05
zenwhennothing is musted.11:05
thoreauputicSgt: /nick newnick11:06
sobersabrewell, follow dkm's advice i guess...11:06
tritiumnybble, kopete is in the repos.  Why would you want to compile it?11:06
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sorush20Brunellus: what was the problem you can't get an AP..11:06
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nybbletritium: kopete 3.5.... with webcam support and all11:06
zenwhensobersabre, X works fine at this point for me11:06
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zenwhenhal seems to be too, but it wont let me mount my usb drive11:06
Brunellussorush20:  no, the problem is that SIOCADDRT tells me the network is unreachable11:07
sobersabreit works fine except when it doesn't :)11:07
BrunellusI can see my AP if I iwlist scan for it11:07
sobersabremaybe you still want to follow dkm11:07
sobersabre's advice ....11:07
BrunellusI can bring wlan0 up and down from the command line...11:07
zenwhenI am going back to hoary. Theres nothing new in breezy yet anyway.11:07
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tritiumzenwhen, yes there is11:07
othernoobzenwhen: and why go back then?11:08
sobersabre:) except several dozens of packages....11:08
tritiumhundreds even11:08
othernoobsobersabre: which are already outdated ;)11:08
zenwhenOh11:08
dkmpah! millions11:08
zenwhenMaybe I am not looking hard enough then.11:08
zenwhen:)11:08
tritiumzenwhen, outdated?  gnome 2.12?  hah11:08
spiralhmmm, how should I notify a dep problem with the gimp in breezy ?11:08
jrattner1I'm installing linux on my girlfriends laptop, would you recommend that I install the Breezy Badger or the Hoary11:08
zenwhentristanmike, outdated only in number11:09
sobersabretritium, hundreds are also several dozens.11:09
D1hoary11:09
othernoobtritium: just because gnome isn't outdated doesn't mean the other packages are uptodate as well ;)11:09
jrattner1D1, hoary you tihnk?11:09
D1its more stable.11:09
sobersabreothernoob, 1. when you build a distro, some packages will be outdated.11:09
Brunellushenk:  any ideas as to what's going on?11:09
D1breezy is still in development11:09
SgtInstall Breezy11:09
SgtIt is great11:09
othernoobsobersabre: not neccessarily.. ;)11:09
sorush20sorry can't help you there..11:09
D1things can still break.11:09
sobersabre2. which package is outdated ( except amarok...) ?11:09
zenwhenmaybe if your sound works it is11:10
sorush20Brunellus: sorry can't help you there.11:10
test34how can you change the bootup process so it shows exactly what it is doing while it boots ?11:10
tritiumothernoob, not really11:10
othernoobsobersabre: k3b for example..openoffice certainly, albeit i don't know which OOo comes with breezy11:10
SgtHow do I change my nickname?11:10
denn_can someone point me in the rigth direction for accessing shared printers (on windows network)11:10
thoreauputicSgt:  /nick newnick11:10
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sobersabreothernoob, you're full of... how is it called.... crap ? shit ?11:11
thoreauputichahah11:11
sobersabre:)11:11
henketest34, boot without the "quiet" option11:11
othernoobsobersabre: suure ;)11:11
sobersabrecompare to other distributions already declared.11:11
newnickuh oh11:11
sobersabreslack 10.2 ?11:11
thoreauputicnewnick: a bit literal ;)11:11
newnickha ha11:11
test34henke, where do you remove this option ?11:11
newnickSCrwed it up!11:11
sobersabre:)11:11
newnickThere11:11
newnickdoh11:11
tritiumothernoob, breezy will have openoffice.org2, or the latest betas if it's not released11:11
dkmif u want everything prepacked and "just working"^tm, its insane to request the latest and greatest of everything. If u want that, build the shite from sources urself and mess around with all the dependensies and stuff.11:11
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henketest34, you can edit the boot entry in the menu that shows on boot11:12
thoreauputicnewnick: /nick <some lame nick here > ;-)11:12
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KhannnnThere we go11:12
Khannnnha ha11:12
test34thanks henke11:12
thoreauputic!nickometer Khannnn11:12
ubotu'Khannnn' is 0% lame, thoreauputic11:12
KhannnnNice11:13
thoreauputicKhannnn: well, ubotu thinks it's cool :)11:13
henketest34, I believe that you press 'e' on the entry to edit it11:13
KhannnnI wanted !!! at the end, but it was a no go11:13
ColonelKernelimitating the yell of capt kirk in st211:13
KhannnnExactly11:13
ColonelKernelwhen he got left on the genesis-developed asteroid11:13
KhannnnIndeed11:14
tritiumI think he extended the "a", and not the "n"11:14
ColonelKernelwhich - btw - Im wondering why the borg never seemed to develop11:14
KhannnnOr, what I yell when the newest Breezy updates bork my laptop11:14
tritiumperhaps Khaaaaan11:14
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tritium;)11:14
KhaaaaanHow is that?11:14
tritiummucho mejor11:14
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KhaaaaanHow does that one rate on the lamesness meter?11:15
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thoreauputic!nickometer Khaaaaan11:15
ubotu'Khaaaaan' is 0% lame, thoreauputic11:15
Khaaaaanha ha11:15
Khaaaaanswwweeet11:15
thoreauputicKhaaaaan: you're in the clear :)11:15
henkethoreauputic, somebody need to update the nickometer. Should get score if a letter is repeated more than twice ;)11:16
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thoreauputichenke: talk to cafuego :)11:17
test34I get 27%11:17
thoreauputictest34: I'd say numbers, [ ] , | etc rate high11:18
bimberiahh11:19
othernoobmeh, 1337 is a Erroneous Nickname.. irc sucks11:19
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l337H4xx0r!nickometer l337H4xx0r11:19
ubotu'l337H4xx0r' is 99.9378% lame, l337h4xx0r11:19
othernoobwannabe^^ :p11:19
l337H4xx0rthere you go :D11:19
henkenow to figure out what gives 100% :)11:19
bimberihehe11:19
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denn_how do i install stuff? apt-get?11:20
SupIAmMikeso ubuntu easier than debian?11:20
SupIAmMikedoes ubuntu come with a kernel that includes the ipw2200 driver?11:21
othernoobdenn_: apt-get install, dpkg -i, ./configure make make install11:21
tritiumyes, I'm using ipw2200 not, SupIAmMike11:21
tritiums/not/now11:21
SupIAmMiketritium - thank god11:21
denn_othernoob, those are 3 different ways to install, right? not one long way?11:21
tritiumokay, i will, SupIAmMike11:21
SupIAmMikedebian broke when i did their instructions to get ipw2200 to work11:21
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bimberidenn_: yes, or aptitude/synaptic11:22
othernoobdenn_: yes, 3 different ways, first one=repos, 2nd one= a downloaded .deb, 3rd one= compiling11:22
tritium3rd one should be a last resort, and should be done in combination with checkinstall11:22
othernoobdenn_: the 3rd one are 3 steps btw..11:22
denn_ah ok thanks11:22
henkeSupIAmMike, how did it break? I've had it working perfectly11:24
tritiumhalftime is over...see you after the game11:24
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othernoobtritium: what game?11:24
tritiumNotre Dame, of course11:24
demanyone using mythtv with breezy11:24
sambagirli no cannot make breezy do anything11:24
sambagirli install but that is it11:24
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demthe plugins seam to be broke, because mythtv is @ ver 0.18, and plugins are at 0.17, and they don't work11:25
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othernoobdem: then either wait, or uninstall and install 0.1711:25
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fetmanhello, I need som step-by-step help to install lirc. Anyone willing?11:26
Flying-Penguinwhats with imwheel?11:26
LokeDKWhen I try, on Hoary, to upgrade firefox to the latest (1.0.7) it syas11:26
LokeDKsays*11:26
LokeDKE: /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/var/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions.d/00classic', which is also in package firefox11:26
LokeDKE: /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox-gnome-support_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/libmozgnome.so', which is also in package firefox-gnome-support11:26
demwell myth 0.18 is soo much more stable on my box than 0.1711:26
thoreauputicLokeDK: do NOT paste in here!11:26
othernoobdem: then it's option 1, wait11:27
thoreauputicLokeDK: and read the /topic11:27
exarkundefault configuration of xterm in breezy sends \x08 on backspace.  Intentional change?  If so, why?11:27
kataklysmjust update dpkg first.. then update the rest..11:27
LokeDKFirst of all, I thought it was okay to paste a few lines?11:27
thoreauputicfetman: sudo apt-get install lirc  - done11:27
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othernoobthoreauputic: would you happen to have a dvdrw ?11:27
LokeDKbut let me read that link11:28
thoreauputicothernoob: no sorry11:28
kataklysmLokeDK,  its fine for most of us to read your pastes, its not any diff than someone typing a few lines, but a few dickheads in here dont like it, so just ignore them...11:28
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fetmanthoreauputic: really? I don't have to build modules for the kernel etc?11:28
LokeDKoh okay11:28
thoreauputickataklysm: erm - it's a channel rule11:28
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thoreauputickataklysm: and please read the Code of Conduct11:29
kataklysmthoreauputic,  it very well may be, but i think it means more than 3 or 4 lines of paste, not just 2 lil lines....11:29
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kataklysmi could understand if the channel was extremely loaded and busy, but look at it11:30
kataklysmalright i said the wrong thing....11:30
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Flying-Penguinanyone here use imwheel?11:30
chavokataklysm, he's going to give himself a heart attack11:30
chavoover 2 lines11:30
thoreauputickataklysm: no, your point was valid in iteself - but please don't call people "dickheads" :)11:30
othernoobmmh. then..does anyone here own a dvdrw and could paste the output of sudo cdrecord -prcap dev=/dev/hdX to some pastebin?11:31
kataklysmthoreauputic: would it be better to describe them as people who like to over exaggerate lil things, and try to take charge of others?11:31
denn_i just used synaptic to install xmms and pan news reader but the icons never appeared in Applications11:32
denn_do i have to add them manually/11:32
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chavokataklysm, it's better described as having a god complex I believe11:32
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mloskothi all!11:32
thoreauputickataklysm: whatever you like to think :) I'm not interested in srguing the point :)11:32
thoreauputic*arguing11:32
mloskotQ: is anyone using Creative Notebook Webcam on Ubuntu (Breezy)?11:32
kataklysmevidently you were11:32
bimberidenn_: you might, but first try a "killall gnome-panel" in a terminal and see if they turn up after that11:33
kataklysmmloskot: i bet i have the fix for your webcam11:33
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mloskotkatalysm: what fix?11:33
kataklysmmloskot: id say that the spca50x drivers will work on it11:33
thoreauputicchavo: right, like I kick people all the time and generally throw my weight around :|11:33
kataklysmi have breezy and i have a stingray11:33
mloskotkataklysm: I've found this HOWTO: http://www.macewan.org/2005/08/07/ubuntu-creative-live-webcam/11:33
mloskotkataklysm: It seems to be spca50x related11:34
chavothoreauputic, I'm just messing with ya11:34
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kataklysmmloskot: have u tried to compile and install the spca5xx driver?11:34
chavoI know you don't do that11:34
god-zeroothernoob: what was the url to pastebin again?11:34
kataklysmthoreauputic, its no big deal, we all get a little big headed11:34
othernoobgod-zero: pastebin.com ?11:34
sorush20I'm trying to add farsi support to my computer using this howTO , http://www.farsikde.org/keyboard.php, but at a step in the howTo it is asking me to go to this location /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/rules/ and find a file called. xfree86.list, but I don't have this file the only file that is close to it is xfree86 and its a link to a source here is the screenshot http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/249611:34
mloskotkataklysm: no yet, im first asking where should I start, so now I know - spca...11:34
ksmurfI have an internal card that won't work right now..... It only shows up when it's hungry.  It is seen with lspci but never loaded.  Athreos based .  I know athreos works because the othe wifi card is a g650 and it works great11:34
tritiumkataklysm, it is COMPLETELY against the Code of Conduct to call others here the name you called them11:35
kataklysmthoreauputic,  just lets try to stay reasonable, and remember the good ubuntu community name11:35
ksmurfanyone know?11:35
kataklysmtritium,  i didnt direct "dickhead" towards anyone in particular11:35
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ksmurfhey ya trit.... still safe?11:35
god-zeroothernoob: http://pastebin.com/37316311:36
zenlunaticHow do I see my gnome version?11:36
tritiumhi ksmurf.  Yeah, doing fine here, thanks.  You/11:36
tritium?11:36
ksmurfgr8 except my wifi card disappeared again11:36
dkmzenlunatic, gnome-about11:36
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dkmzenlunatic, from a prompt or from the menu :-p11:37
ksmurfmama says hello11:37
zenlunaticmy gnome-about says gnome2.10 and i followed wiki directions to upgrade to breezy. why don't i have 2.12?11:37
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BaconTastesGoodso I'd argue that not updating /etc/hosts with your hostname automatically is a fairly significant bug =/11:37
zenlunaticdkm, thanks11:37
tritiumhi to your wife, ksmurf11:37
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sorush20is there a gui virus scanner that scans and removes all the viruses on linux..11:38
zenlunaticsorush20, there are no viruses for linux11:38
P229so the "colony 5" for ubuntu 5.10... is this like "release candidate 5?" and if I were to install colony 5, would it be simple to upgrade to the final release of 5.10?11:38
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zenlunaticP229, yes11:38
zenlunaticP229, so I'm told11:39
ksmurfthere are virus for linux... they just don't do damage....11:39
henkezenlunatic, that's not entirely true11:39
Cody`anyone know if I can play divx on ubuntu11:39
amiashas anyone got uk tv data working in mythv on breezy ?11:39
ksmurfcody yes if need be11:39
P229henke: could you elaborate?11:39
zenlunaticokay what are some viruses that have been on security advisories for linux lately?11:39
amiasCody: totem11:39
dkmzenlunatic, sco!11:39
ksmurfZen .... None latly.  security according to apps and kernel11:40
zenlunaticP229, i don't think he was referring to my upgrade response11:40
zenlunaticso what are you talking about ksmurf11:40
P229zenlunatic: oh11:40
henkezenlunatic, correct :)11:40
P229henke: my bad11:40
Cody`ksmurf: yes, how?11:40
sorush20zenlunatic: are you sure.. well.. with the word of windows its only best for me to be able to scan my hda1 to remove a win viruses and prevent cross contaminations...11:40
denn_i'm trying to update to openoffice 1.1.5 from 1.1.3. Should i just download and install it or do I have to uninstall old one first?11:40
henkedenn_, it will replace the old automatically11:41
zenlunaticsorush20, there are some linux distros made specifically for that purpose. i don't know the name of the tools but there are programs to do what your describing11:41
denn_ok cool11:41
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CaptainMorganare those Harvery windows? nnnnniiiicee11:41
zenlunaticdkm, do you have any idea why i am running 2.10 on breezy?11:41
ksmurfzen security advisories are put out constantly.  It's just that since linux is a true multiuser system and people don't ( shouldn't) run as root they don't affect anything.  all programs ( or most) have some vunerability11:42
sorush20zenlunatic: thanks. anyways.. anyone else.. know about this.. ?11:42
zenlunaticyeah but ksmurf that is not the same thing as a windows virus11:42
zenlunatica virus is a file that effects your system negatively11:43
zenlunaticso a scanner can search and destroy that file(s)11:43
JDahlsorush20, what do you mean by cross-contaminations? a Windows virus affected Linux? You definetely don't have to worry about that11:43
JDahls/affected/affecting11:43
dkmzenlunatic, fraid not :/ (maybe its a virus? :.D)11:43
zenlunaticsorush20, what JDahl says is true11:43
zenlunaticsorush20, cleaning windows from linux is doable though11:43
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zenlunatichas anyone upgraded to breezy and had old apps like gnome2.12?11:44
zenlunatici mean 2.10 in breezy11:44
chavoYou only really need a virus scanner if you're running a mail server11:44
chavothat way you can scan the emails for viruses before sending them on their way11:44
thoreauputiczenlunatic: youdid a dist-upgrade, right ? Not just upgrade ?11:44
zenlunaticthoreauputic, no just upgrade11:45
twoSharpis it possible to check packages in the network real-time in ethereal?11:45
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thoreauputiczenlunatic: you need to dist-upgrade :)11:45
linner|Awaythoreauputic:  this is my 6th install of breezy... i'm having x-server starting issues... talked with Tritium last night who suggested that I try using a Radeon driver since SuSE that I had running fine used it.  I don't know how to change it... can you help me?  Bob2 basically thought it wasn't that issue but couldn't excute what he suggested... he didn't give me specific enough info :(11:45
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zenlunaticthoreauputic, doh!11:45
Cody`ksmurf: yes, how?11:46
sorush20JDahl: I have just done a virus scan on my computer its a ubuntu and I have found many win viruses around just sitting there like spores, what if gets transfered to my sisters computer which is a windows that is what I mean by cross contamination.. I don't want linux to act like a vector or a carrier11:46
dkmzenlunatic, have you checked the versions of the different gnomepackages (for example gnome-about) in synaptic or with apt?11:46
linneri'm now booted in "safe mode"11:46
zenlunaticthoreauputic, bah! im just going to do a fresh install of breezy since i already have the iso. it is saying that it will download 300+ meg11:46
thoreauputiclinner: I doubt that I can help - I'm on dialup currently and still running Hoary - maybe someone using Breezy can help you11:46
linnerthoreauputic: ok... sounds good :) thanks anyway11:47
thoreauputiczenlunatic: that sounds about right11:47
chavozenlunatic, you can use the cd to upgrade11:47
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zenlunaticchavo, ah11:48
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{CyberFreak}anyone knows if kde 3.4.2 has port for amd 64 hoary11:48
{CyberFreak}?11:48
{CyberFreak}kubuntu 64 hoary11:48
chavozenlunatic, you could probably do it by jusy mounting the iso, but I'm not sure how to add a local directory as a repository11:49
LokeDKwrite says write: write: you have write permission turned off. .. I could for not long ago?11:49
ksmurfI have an internal card that won't work right now..... It only shows up when it's hungry.  It is seen with lspci but never loaded.  Athreos based .  I know athreos works because the othe wifi card is a g650 and it works great11:49
ksmurfany ideas?11:49
zenlunaticchavo, ill just burn it11:50
chavotry mounting the iso at /mnt/cdrom and run apt-cdrom11:50
chavosudo mount -o loop /path/to/iso /mnt/cdrom11:50
chavosudo apt-cdrom11:50
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chavothat should do it11:50
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JaZyLNXhey guys, my wlan0 wasn't found during inital install, but i got it working meow. and i want it to start up automatically instead of me having to activate it all the time11:54
chavozenlunatic, got it do this -> sudo mount -o loop /path/to/breezy.iso /cdrom11:54
chavothen do this ->sudo apt-cdrom -m add11:54
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chavothat will add the iso image to your sources.list11:55
chavothen just comment it out when your done11:55
sambagirlwhat is different about breezy it tell me it's breezy? should i try to do upgrade again?11:55
Jerichis there anything I can do, to customize a standard ubuntu install for a low end laptop ?11:55
sambagirli notice nothign11:55
sambagirlnothing different i mean11:55
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linnertritium: hello...11:56
linnertritium: she's baaa-ack11:56
rdw200169the kernel would be different11:56
solemnwarningwhy does ubuntu prevent scripts from using /bin/sh as a shebang?11:56
chavosambagirl, did you get the 3d glassess?11:57
sambagirl3 d glasses?11:57
thoreauputicsolemnwarning: it doesn't. AFAIK11:57
sambagirli using tifanny glasses11:57
xTinasolemnwarning: it does not11:57
binman180root@strongbad:/cdrom # ./linux_installer.sh11:57
binman180bash: ./linux_installer.sh: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied11:57
binman180oh?11:57
sambagirlwhat i needing 3d glasses for/11:57
sambagirl?11:57
KhaaaaanOkay, is Gstreamer supported by Nokia money?11:57
solemnwarningthat script runs fine on my debian box11:57
thoreauputicsolemnwarning: #!/bin/sh should work fine11:58
linnertritium: may I PM you?11:58
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thoreauputicbinman180: possibly running from the CD is the problem there11:59
Khaaaaancause it will not play DVDs at all, and one would assume that with Nokia money, they would have got it to work by now :(11:59
binman180thoreauputic: the cd works fine in solemnwarning's debian box11:59

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