[12:00] <Seveas> that is unique in the linux distro world
[12:00] <tristanmike> Seveas, it's too bad there is a lot of emphasis on the forums if they are sending the wrong information
[12:00] <kemik> Seveas:  what about the debian community!? :) all nice and friendly.. gets you all *warm and fuzzy inside*
[12:00] <slack7384> kamiro87: np, I'm just trying to find a way that you can edit the xorg.conf file with some better permissions
[12:00] <deibi> hla
[12:00] <vbgunz> bob2 recommended something to me yesterday... if I right click a folder in the right pane, the option to open in terminal is available... yet if I right-click a folder in the left pane "the tree" the option was unavailable *but* it seems that while in a folder in the right pane if I right click on an empty spot "on no file or folder" I'll be able to open that folder directly into a command prompt
[12:00] <kamiro87> ah ok
[12:00] <vbgunz> bob2 knows the command... I forgot it
[12:00] <Seveas> kemik, please, don't do that ever again
[12:01] <Seveas> my stomach aches from laughing...
[12:01] <tristanmike> kemik, how many Debian people would tell me to rtfm?
[12:01] <vbgunz> but it seems to suck if the entire window has files... :(
[12:01] <Bergcube> marga_~ If you're running Ubuntu yourself: Download the DVD image via Bittorrent, right-click on it in the file-manager and select "burn" in the drop-down menu.  Worked for me.  :-)
[12:01] <windex> tristanmike, i might tell you to rtfm if you ask a question like 'what is ls'. :)
[12:01] <deibi> alguien habla espaol?
[12:01] <kamiro87> rtfm. ive been told that XD. didnt know what it ment the first time and googled it.
[12:01] <tritium> deibi, #ubuntu-es
[12:01] <Seveas> !es
[12:01] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:01] <tristanmike> windex, now that's not very nice :P
[12:01] <slack7384> kamiro87: ok, i got a better idea, cd to the /etc/X11 directory as regular user, then issue "sudo gedit xorg.conf" and see if that works
[12:02] <marga_> Bergcube, ok, I don't know why I need to be running ubuntu :).  I can use k3b to burn the cd anyway :)  TNX
[12:02] <kemik> Seveas:  i wont.. i promise =)
[12:02] <deibi> ok thsnks
[12:02] <tristanmike> windex, what is rm -r / again?
[12:02] <Lars_G> Seveas: Do you have any idea why the default inet on Hoary is inetd and not xinetd?
[12:02] <kamiro87> ok. i got a text editor w a file
[12:02] <kemik> tristanmike:  it's bad, that's what it is
[12:03] <windex> tristanmike, it's the command that proceeds a windows installation.
[12:03] <Seveas> Lars_G, that's about to change
[12:03] <tristanmike> windex, now *that's* funny
[12:03] <tristanmike> lol
[12:03] <kamiro87> lol
[12:03] <vbgunz> does anyone here know how to modify the right-click menu for the left hand tree items?
[12:03] <slack7384> kamiro87: any luck?
[12:04] <Seveas> vbgunz, move to england so the left hand trees move to the right ;)
[12:04] <slack7384> kamiro87: do you see the xorg.conf file?
[12:04] <kamiro87> yup. it opened
[12:04] <kamiro87> in a text editor
[12:04] <vbgunz> ;)
[12:04] <Lars_G> Seveas: For breezy?
[12:04] <slack7384> kamiro87: ok, scroll down to the section labled "Screen"
[12:04] <kamiro87> ok
[12:04] <Seveas> Lars_G, no, iirc it's on a BOF for UBZ
[12:05] <slack7384> kamiro87: Section "Screen"
[12:05] <kamiro87> yup
[12:05] <vbgunz> it's just a bit annoying being new and still having to type in full paths in the terminal... it would be nice to browse to it using Nautilus and then being able to access a terminal immediately on the directory...
[12:05] <Lars_G> Seveas: A what for what?
[12:05] <kamiro87> lisi see it
[12:05] <kamiro87> i*
[12:05] <slack7384> kamiro87: do you see text like Identifier, Device, Monitor, Default Depth, etc?
[12:05] <Seveas> ha, knew you wouldn't understand :)
[12:05] <kamiro87> yes
[12:05] <Seveas> wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBelowZero
[12:06] <Lars_G> Seveas: Congrats you were right.
[12:06] <kamiro87> i see a bunch of resolutions
[12:06] <dobwan> what is the server for the US breezy apt update? I have it as us.archive.ubuntu.com.
[12:06] <kamiro87> in sub section display
[12:06] <Lars_G> Seveas: Did you also knew xchat wouldn't catch it without the http?
[12:06] <Seveas> Lars_G, knew but forgot
[12:07] <Lars_G> Seveas: May the gods bless the ussagle of middle click in linux
[12:07] <slack7384> kamiro87: well, in the areas labled SubSection "Display" and where the Depth is marked 24, 16, and 15, add a "1024x768" and a "800x600" addition to the Modes if they already are not listed
[12:07] <esac> i downloaded grounation mouse cursors, does anybody know how to isntall them ?
[12:07] <Seveas> well, actually 4, but it's 2 left and 2 right buttons
[12:07] <slack7384> kamiro87: ex -> Depth 24
[12:07] <Seveas> weird hp laptop layout :)
[12:07] <dell500> anyone know how to get dual displays (both crt, one on an LCD adapter) so it stretches the screen to both sides?
[12:08] <Seveas> esac, probably: http://art.gnome.org/faq.php
[12:08] <Silvestre> please
[12:08] <slack7384> kamiro87: Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[12:08] <kamiro87> depth 1?
[12:08] <Silvestre> ubuntu in spanish?
[12:08] <kamiro87> ok adding
[12:08] <Lars_G> Seveas: Nice event
[12:08] <Seveas> Silvestre, #ubuntu-es
[12:08] <Silvestre> thans
[12:08] <Silvestre> thanks
[12:08] <slack7384> kamiro87: you don't need to add in depth one, but you can add it there too, just to play it safe ;-)
[12:08] <Silvestre> Seveas,
[12:08] <Seveas> slack7384, you know we have a pastebin to aid in theses things, do you? ;)
[12:09] <kamiro87> ok. so i just add a nother one exactly like depth 1 right after it?
[12:09] <kamiro87> only w thoes resolutions?
[12:09] <hd420> this is odd
[12:10] <slack7384> kamiro87: you don't need to add anything extra, just add the "1024x768" and "800x600" text in the Modes line
[12:10] <kamiro87> done.
[12:10] <inthenow> hi
[12:10] <inthenow> how do i remove totem without removing "ubuntu-desktop"
[12:10] <vbgunz> what I was really trying to accomplish was this. Browse to a file that needs to be edited as root but browse to it as a regular user... Once the file is found, right click on log in to editing that file as root... I think I found what I needed but sadly.. it's not working for me. I thought if I added the "run as a different user" it might make a difference but no go...
[12:11] <Jowi> inthenow: ubuntu-desktop is safe to remove.
[12:11] <inthenow> Jowi: what is it?
[12:11] <Jowi> inthenow: a dummy package as far as i can tell
[12:11] <Jowi> inthenow: to make updates easier
[12:11] <Seveas> inthenow, wiki.ubuntu.com/MetaPackages
[12:12] <dePOLL> Jowi: exactly. i'd think twice before i remove this meta package just to have one app less on my hdd but maybe hamper future (dist-)upgrades
[12:12] <slack7384> kamiro87: Now testing the resolution will require a restart of X11, you can do that by pressing Ctrl + Alt + Bckspace, and then logging back in
[12:12] <inthenow> my updates for breezy are saying they cant install xcommon because dpkg error having to do with xfonts-base
[12:13] <Seveas> inthenow, yeah x-common is broken currently
[12:13] <inthenow> Seveas: does it mean if i shut down X i lose it?
[12:13] <Seveas> inthenow, possibly
[12:13] <Seveas> you picked a bad time to upgrade
[12:13] <Jowi> dePOLL: is it possible to remove a package without removing the "meta-package" as well?
[12:14] <Seveas> Jowi, you can use equis to install a dummy-totem
[12:14] <dePOLL> Jowi: I guess --force-depends would do exactly that
[12:14] <vbgunz> I have a workaround for the meantime... I've added the "run as different user" to the right click menu for folders and files... When I wish to login to a file as root, I right click the item then type in "gedit pathto file" using the location bar as a reference... Wish I didn't have to type in the location though :)
[12:14] <monchis> NEED HELP
[12:14] <albino> Does the ubuntu kernel in the latest release include alsa?  If so, how can I load it?  Whats the module name?
[12:14] <Jowi> Seveas, dePOLL ah, okay
[12:14] <dePOLL> Jowi: however your package database is inconsistent then. so creating a dummy package might be a good idea
[12:14] <vbgunz> typing in just the app would've been nice and less redundant ;)
[12:15] <erUSUL> monchis: don't shout at us then, and ask politely
[12:16] <todd> whats the best gmail notifier application?
[12:16] <slack7384> kamiro1987: did it work?
[12:16] <dePOLL> albino: afaik all the ubuntu kernels include alsa. you have to load driver specific modules in order to get your soundcard working
[12:16] <monchis> sorry erUSUL
[12:17] <monchis> I can't install linux on my pc, don't know what happens
[12:17] <Knelix2> Is there a temperature monitor for my CPU I can use inside GNOME?
[12:17] <kamiro1987> sorry. forgot to save file XD. when i opened xorg.conf again and scrolled down i saw something like what i typed only with more resolutions.
[12:17] <Seveas> monchis, a bit more info would help
[12:17] <Jowi> Knelix: depends if the hardware is supported. lm-sensors is the package you are looking for
[12:17] <Seveas> aaaaaah
[12:17] <monchis> I was trying to install Fedora Core 4 on my pc, which came on a DVD and I couldn't
[12:18] <erUSUL> Knelix xsensors or gdesklets (very buggy) or maybe gtkrml
[12:18] <Seveas> monchis, try #fedora
[12:18] <monchis> On my PC it doesn't boot, but on my brother's laptop it did
[12:18] <inthenow> after removing totem should i put the dummy package back in?
[12:18] <ompaul> monchis, well something happens, you get to a point and consider that you have not been successful , what does it look like at that time?
[12:18] <monchis> I can't use that channel
[12:18] <Lars_G> monchis: .... you can't use that channel? why can't you use that channel?
[12:18] <Seveas> well, don't ask in here, we don't support fedor'as coredumps
[12:18] <monchis> it says something like "#fedora Cannot send to channel"
[12:18] <kamiro1987>  cd /etc/X11/    then sudo gedit xorg.conf
[12:18] <ompaul> monchis, #fedora for core
[12:19] <ompaul> monchis, get ubuntu
[12:19] <kemik> monchis:  download ubuntu and try that instead.. then you can ask in here ;)
[12:19] <ouroboros> how-to setup ATI All in Wonder Pro PCI Graphics driver on AMD64 w/ Ubuntu Hoary?
[12:19] <inthenow> how long is it gonna take for the xcommon to be fixed
[12:19] <monchis> how can i talk on #fedora?
[12:19] <Seveas> !tell ouroboros about ati
[12:20] <ompaul> monchis, no idea
[12:20] <erUSUL> ouroboros: what ati chip?
[12:20] <slack7384> kamiro1987: right on the money
[12:20] <Lars_G> There's no ident clinet on the repos?
[12:20] <Seveas> monchis, how should we know, this is not #fedora
[12:20] <tritium> inthenow, time will tell
[12:20] <kamiro1987> its already there. along with 1,4,....
[12:20] <Seveas> now either get ubunt and get support from here or leave...
[12:20] <monchis> ok.. sorry then
[12:20] <Lars_G> monchis: ask in #freenode
[12:20] <Lars_G> monchis: ask in #freenode
[12:20] <kamiro1987> all the way to 24
[12:20] <monchis> thanx Lars
[12:20] <ompaul> monchis, you will have to wait before they give you voice there
[12:20] <slack7384> kamiro1987: sounds good
[12:21] <Lars_G> No ident client in the repos? I can't find ant.
[12:21] <kamiro1987> so i'm assuming it was like that frim the beginning..
[12:21] <kamiro1987> :-(
[12:21] <ompaul> monchis, but it can be worth it - don't use caps
[12:21] <Seveas> Lars_G, ident client?
[12:21] <monchis> Lars, at freenode it tells me "#freenode Cannot send to channel"
[12:21] <slack7384> kamiro1987: what was from the beginning?
[12:21] <monchis> what can i do?
[12:21] <ompaul> monchis, you will have to wait before they give you voice there
[12:21] <sorush20> hello how can i type in Farsi persian in ooO.org 1.3 can someone help
[12:22] <Knelix2>  lm-sensors, xsensors or gtkrml then... where could I find these?
[12:22] <Lars_G> Seveas: duh?
[12:22] <Seveas> Knelix, in the repositories?
[12:22] <Seveas> Lars_G, what do you mean with ident client..?
[12:22] <kamiro1987> the file i was supposed to edit. i forgot to save it. then i opened up the same file again and i saw that the stuff tiat i put in (but didnt save) was there in the beginning and i didnt see it because i didit scroll down
[12:22] <slack7384> kamiro1987: oh, i see.
[12:23] <slack7384> kamiro1987: so the 1024x768 res was already there?
[12:23] <Knelix2> Seveas: Which one? I tried looking in the universe... hmm.. lemme look again...
[12:23] <kamiro1987> ya. but it doesnt come up in the resolution choosing windoe
[12:23] <Seveas> !info lm-sensors
[12:23] <ubotu> lm-sensors: (Utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors), section utils, is extra. Version: 2.8.8-7ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 453 kB, Installed size: 1404 kB
[12:23] <Seveas> that one is in main
[12:24] <erUSUL> Knelix xsensors is in unverse
[12:24] <erUSUL>  *universe*
[12:24] <slack7384> kamiro1987: what is the make of your monitor? I've had the right resolutions listed before, but had X ignore those resolutions because the Horizontal and Vertical sync was wrong for the Monitor (eg Not to best performance specs)
[12:25] <kamiro1987> sceptre flat screen
[12:25] <slack7384> kamiro1987: model #?
[12:25] <Lars_G> Seveas: I want to check what my ident server is sending when queried
[12:25] <inthenow> whats the best p2p program right now?
[12:25] <Lars_G> inthenow: Bittorrent
[12:25] <Seveas> Lars_G, ah, comprende
[12:25] <funkyHat> how do i re-enable animated progress bars?
[12:25] <kamiro1987> doesnt say. the only thing is a part number. ct17w
[12:25] <inthenow> Lars_G: you need a source though no?
[12:25] <Seveas> Lars_G, telnet to port 113 and query it :D
[12:26] <funkyHat> i'm sure i had them before
[12:26] <Knelix2> erUSUL: I cannot find it, even after searching for it by name.
[12:26] <Lars_G> Seveas: Sigh I'm not learning another raw rfc
[12:26] <Seveas> funkyHat, afaik you need to recompile clearlooks
[12:26] <Lars_G> inthenow: ?? yep
[12:26] <Seveas> Lars_G, but it's fun :)
[12:26] <chall> What would cause gnome to not allow click and drag?
[12:26] <funkyHat> ah. ok
[12:26] <funkyHat> lol
[12:26] <albino> dePOLL: Thanks
[12:27] <blekos> hello
[12:27] <Jowi> hi blekos
[12:27] <blekos> how is life out there?
[12:27] <Knelix2> erUSUL: All I found was gdesklets
[12:28] <erUSUL> Knelix: apt-cache search sensors works for me
[12:28] <slack7384> kamiro1987: Monitor specs @ http://www.sceptre.com/Products/LCD/Specifications/spec_ct17w.htm
[12:28] <blekos> i'd appreciate a bit of help
[12:28] <Lars_G> Man... these instant installs are so..... sweet
[12:28] <anile8> I've just installed Ubuntu on an Acer Travelmate 280, but the resolution can't be changed from 640x480, any suggestions?
[12:28] <blekos> i tried to run the EasyUbuntu script and
[12:28] <Lars_G> I was so used to gentoo's compiling, that I became upgradeophobic
[12:28] <blekos> it messed my kde
[12:28] <blekos> I like Gnome but I need few things from KDE
[12:28] <Lars_G> blekos: Define messed
[12:28] <blekos> hmm
[12:29] <blekos> uninstalled the whole KDE
[12:29] <blekos> and now cannot apt-get it
[12:29] <tristanmike> ewww
[12:29] <Lars_G> blekos: what happens when you try to apt-get it?
[12:29] <slack7384> kamiro1987: I'm sorry, but I've got a call to go out of my office, so I will have to leave you.
[12:29] <Seveas>  /kick Lars_G Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[12:29] <blekos> ok here is the msg
[12:29] <kamiro1987> ah, ok
[12:29] <kamiro1987> its ok
[12:30] <slack7384> kamiro1987: hope your problem gets resolved though.......
[12:30] <Lars_G> slack7384: Bomb threat? we got one of these once.
[12:30] <blekos> kubuntu-desktop
[12:30] <blekos> depends:gwenview but it is not going to be installed
[12:30] <kamiro1987> thanx for the help
[12:30] <blekos> i have all required repositories  enabled...
[12:30] <kamiro1987> :-)
[12:30] <Lars_G> ubuntu has joined ubuntu?
[12:30] <kamiro1987> hello. i'm a noob and i'm having problems getting a resolution above 640x480
[12:31] <slack7384> Lars_G: no, it is a call for a meeting (est. 2 hrs!)
[12:31] <Lars_G> kamiro1987: What video card?
[12:31] <CookedGryphon> has anyone else got firefox 1.0.7 and nioticed problems with it?
[12:31] <Seveas> kamiro1987, pastebin your xorg.conf, pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:31] <Seveas> CookedGryphon, -> /topic
[12:31] <tritium> CookedGryphon, /topic
[12:31] <slack7384> Lars_G: bye
[12:31] <tristanmike> CookedGryphon, Me, it wouldn't load
[12:31] <kamiro1987> intel 740 agp
[12:31] <slack7384> Kamiro1987: bye, and good luck!
[12:31] <tristanmike> CookedGryphon, well, I would get the 'ole "Starting Firefox Browser" then poof, nothing, it was running but no window
[12:32] <blekos> any ideas?
[12:32] <CookedGryphon> hm, sry its a bit offtopic, but this room loads by default so..
[12:32] <dePOLL> easy fix: uninstall the firefox package (dpkg -r --force-depends firefox)
[12:32] <dePOLL> kill your firefox processes
[12:32] <Seveas> CookedGryphon, look at the end of the topic ;)
[12:32] <dePOLL> install the latest mozilla-firefox
[12:32] <keke> wolas
[12:32] <dePOLL> start firefox. voila.
[12:32] <keke> hello all
[12:32] <kamiro1987> posted
[12:32] <keke> firefox rlz
[12:32] <sorush20> How do I find out what Java firefox is using.. I seemed to have two types of java on my computer.. I ask this since I can't view the letters on a java application on this site.. http://bitaweb.com/fa/htmlEditor.html can someone help
[12:32] <CookedGryphon> tristanmike, i can get it to load, but a load of my extensions.. oh i just read taht
[12:32] <Seveas> sorush20, java -version
[12:33] <tristanmike> Seveas, rotflmao, that's funny
[12:33] <dePOLL> sorush20: about:plugins should do the trick (type it as an url and hit enter)
[12:33] <kamiro1987> isong a sceptre ct17w monitor
[12:33] <kamiro1987> using*
[12:33] <Lars_G> apokryphos: What ident daemon do you use?
[12:34] <Lars_G> Damn I have kernel-images comming out of my ears now, time to clean them up a little
[12:34] <Seveas> Lars_G, debfoster and apt-get clean are your friends
[12:34] <Lars_G> Seveas: ye
[12:35] <Burgundavia> Seveas, why?
[12:35] <kamiro1987> ?
[12:35] <tristanmike> Seveas, what do they do?
[12:35] <Seveas> Burgundavia, because the rock at cleaning up :)
[12:35] <Lars_G> Seveas: Saddly you're not as reasonable as apokryphos, but since he's afk... what ident daemon do you use'
[12:35] <Seveas> apt-get clean clears out the apt cache
[12:35] <Lars_G> ?
[12:35] <Burgundavia> Seveas, say again?
[12:35] <Seveas> Lars_G, pidentd
[12:36] <Bicchi> anyone using gaim-guifinations? Why does the window does not rises when a contact signs in. I have it configured so that it shows up but its not working?
[12:36] <Lars_G> searcher`: Ok, thanks
 Lars_G, debfoster and apt-get clean are your friends
 Seveas, why?
[12:36] <inthenow> how do i know if my printer is supported
[12:36] <Seveas> I assumed your message was in response to that...
[12:36] <Seveas> inthenow, by trying to use it ;)
[12:37] <Seveas> Bicchi, guifications works fine for me here
[12:37] <inthenow> Seveas: oooh thats scary dude
[12:37] <sorush20> dePOLL: Seveas , I'm using libjavaplugin_oji.so is this the right one or not.. I just wnated to know why the site isn't showing th full java content.. here is the site. http://bitaweb.com/fa/htmlEditor.html
[12:37] <Seveas> inthenow, which printer>
[12:37] <Beryllium> What is Ubuntu's equivalent of RedHat's xorg-x11-devel package? I'm trying to compile Wine from source here, but it's damn near impossible to get all the required packages in place before starting
[12:37] <Seveas> sorush20, readlink -f /usr/lib/*firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin-oji.so
[12:38] <Seveas> Beryllium, apt-get install wine :)
[12:38] <Seveas> if you insist on compiling: apt-get build-dep wine drags in all build dependencies
[12:38] <blekos> hmm
[12:38] <inthenow> Seveas: Canon Mp360
[12:38] <vbgunz> does anyone know why drawers on panels *only* show up vertically? I added a menu to a drawer but everything seems to be lined up vertically... anyway to fix this?
[12:38] <blekos> any ever had a problem with easyubuntu script?
[12:38] <Seveas> forget rpm hell, appreciate apt and dpkg
[12:38] <Seveas> blekos, these scripts suck
[12:39] <Seveas> you should not use them as they tend to screw up things
[12:39] <inthenow> Canon told me to - myself about canon driver for linux for mp360
[12:39] <blekos> i had to know that in a bad way...
[12:39] <CookedGryphon> o..k.. i think i jsut re-installed the firefox i already had.. but it works now anyway so i'm not complaining
[12:39] <blekos> can I somehow undo it?
[12:39] <Seveas> probably not
[12:39] <Beryllium> Seveas: I need to compile from CVS, because 20050725 doesn't work with the app I need to get working.
[12:40] <Seveas> Beryllium, then use the build-dep trick
[12:40] <Beryllium> The compile errored out with "Unable to find X11/Intrinsic.h"
[12:40] <apokryphos> Beryllium: the X pack is libx11-dev, but the build-dep would indeed drag it in (and more)
[12:40] <blekos> is there any way you can "fix" problems?
[12:40] <blekos> to re-install ubuntu without loosing your settings?
[12:40] <kamiro1987> the live disk worked with the correct resolution.
[12:40] <Seveas> blekos, post the script on the pastebin, maybe it's undo-able
[12:41] <ompaul> !tell blekos about pastebin
[12:41] <blekos> how do I do that?
[12:41] <Seveas> ubotu should just have told you
[12:41] <ompaul> blekos, read the message ubotu sent you
[12:41] <ubotu> Seveas: Do they come in packets of five?
[12:41] <Seveas> ubotu, yes
[12:41] <ubotu> Yes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thought it, eh, seveas?
[12:41] <apokryphos> kamiro1987: what's the problem?
[12:41] <ompaul> hahah
[12:41] <Jowi> blekos: very easy if you have /home on another partition. There is also http://www.sysresccd.org/ that is brilliant. can ghost partitions and repartition etc.
[12:41] <kamiro1987> cant het a resolution higher then 640 by 480
[12:42] <tristanmike> Seveas, you must have developed a strong bond with ubotu by now
[12:42] <Beryllium> package libicu28-dev cannot be found
[12:42] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell kamiro1987 about res
[12:42] <Beryllium> that's an unusual error
[12:42] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell kamiro1987 about resolution
[12:42] <apokryphos> kamiro1987: check the PM that ubotu just sent you; it contains the fix.
[12:42] <inthenow> Seveas: you asked about my printer. should i look somewhere?
[12:42] <Jowi> blekos: but that assumes that you already made a ghost image in the first place :-P
[12:42] <kamiro1987> ok
[12:42] <kamiro1987> thnx
[12:43] <blekos> :))
[12:43] <Seveas> inthenow, it's not yet listed on the (still incomplete) ubuntu compatibility list so best is to simply try
[12:43] <blekos> which I didnt
[12:43] <ompaul> Beryllium, that is in universe in breezy assume its there in hoary also
[12:43] <Jowi> blekos: might be nice to have though. i really recommend that rescue disk.
[12:44] <blekos> this is what i get: Depends: gwenview but it is not going to be installed
[12:44] <blekos> and dont know y...
[12:44] <erUSUL> inthenow: linuxprinting.org
[12:45] <blekos> can I install it manually somehow?
[12:45] <Gobbla> !ipv6
[12:45] <ubotu> Gobbla: No idea
[12:45] <Gobbla> gah
[12:45] <vbgunz> are there any better drawers for gnome panels than the current default drawers? I find the drawer very limited...
[12:45] <Gobbla> !tell Gobbla about ipv6
[12:45] <esac> yay, breezy is finally behaving. updating to the -9 kernel seems to have fixed my random hang issues
[12:45] <Beryllium> ompaul: I did a search in synaptic, no dice
[12:46] <Gobbla> !tell Gobbla about config a router
[12:46] <Gizmosis> hiya
[12:46] <ompaul> Beryllium, breezy?
[12:46] <blekos> any ideas how i can install manually   gwenview?
[12:46] <Beryllium> 5.04, Hoary
[12:46] <Gizmosis> does anyone know how to get dc-gui source complied
[12:47] <Beryllium> I assume you mean that universe is a repository, I must not have it in my repo ist
[12:47] <ompaul> Beryllium, got universe enabled?
[12:47] <Seveas> Gizmosis, why don't you use the ubuntu package?
[12:47] <Beryllium> ompaul: I don't think so
[12:47] <Beryllium> How do I
[12:47] <Gizmosis> what one of them
[12:47] <ompaul> Beryllium
[12:47] <Seveas> dcgui-qt is in universe or multiverse
[12:47] <ompaul> !tell Beryllium about repos
[12:47] <ompaul> Beryllium see the message that ubotu sent you
[12:47] <Gizmosis> is that what it called just apt-get it
[12:48] <Seveas> yes
[12:48] <dell500> can someone help me with dual monitors on a ati 9600xt?
[12:48] <Gizmosis> i am just installing all of A*
[12:48] <Lars_G> !universe
[12:48] <ubotu> ask me about !repositories
[12:49] <Lars_G> !repositories
[12:49] <ubotu> rumour has it, repositories is at at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[12:49] <Gizmosis> im using breezy
[12:49] <misfit-toy> well, I got X half working after the latest borked upgrade, but no mouse, what is the keyboard shortcut to get to the apps menu?
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[12:49] <netstar> When is breezy released?
[12:49] <Beryllium> thank you ompaul
[12:49] <Seveas> netstar, oct. 13
[12:49] <misfit-toy> thx Seveas
[12:49] <Seveas> misfit-toy, hint: /etc/init.d/udev restart
[12:49] <ompaul> Beryllium, np
[12:50] <sophie_> Beryllium: Was your name tritium yesterday
[12:50] <Beryllium> no
[12:50] <Seveas> sophie_, no, tritium is one of the ops in here :)
[12:50] <Beryllium> I've been beryllium since 2000 or so
[12:50] <sophie_> Beryllium: ok
[12:51] <Pipe> I'm having trouble configurin my adsl conn, In the network tools I dont have the add button to ad another protocol....Could anyone point me out where is the documentation on how to do this???
[12:51] <misfit-toy> Seveas, still no mouse but prolly 'cause I edited xorg.conf earlier
[12:51] <sophie_> tritium: do u know what D20 does in life (tritium)
[12:51] <Seveas> misfit-toy, possibly
[12:51] <LittleDan> what repository has java in it?
[12:51] <misfit-toy> Seveas, so should mouse point to /dev/mice now?
[12:51] <Seveas> LittleDan, breezy or hoary?
[12:51] <Seveas> /dev/input/mice
[12:51] <Beryllium> ompaul: I assume that universe is rather large? :) Synaptic seems to be locked up, processing the list I would imagine
[12:51] <LittleDan> hoary (if that's 5.0.4)
[12:52] <Beryllium> ah, there we go, now it's building the tree
[12:52] <misfit-toy> ahh I have a mice there now, cool, thanks Seveas
[12:52] <Seveas> LittleDan, ubuntu.tower-net.de
[12:52] <ompaul> Beryllium, that would be it
[12:52] <indypende> Hi to all
[12:52] <indypende> i have a problem with sane in breezy
[12:52] <hashheadz> hi indypende
[12:52] <inthenow> My printer printed with a non specific driver. does that mean the built scan function also works?
[12:52] <indypende> in hoary all was perfect
[12:53] <hashheadz> what is sane first
[12:53] <indypende> but now i can use xsane only with gksudo or i get not device!
[12:53] <Beryllium> Damn, that's a tad useless. I do "sudo apt-get build-dep wine" and all it says is something about fontconfig-dev and then it says that Wine's build deps are not satisfied.
[12:53] <indypende> wwhy?
[12:53] <JairunCaloth> If I setup an raid array, do the drives have to be the exact same size, or can I use a smaller partition on the larger drive?
[12:53] <ompaul> inthenow, are you using breezy?
[12:53] <hashheadz> JairunCaloth:  u can use different sizes
[12:53] <Beryllium> (I'm trying to build Wine from CVS source)
[12:53] <JairunCaloth> sweet
[12:54] <Gobbla> !router
[12:54] <ubotu> somebody said router was a device used to connect multiple copmputers online at the same time, or wirelessly. It would be a box in between your modem and computer if you go by the wires.
[12:54] <Gobbla> !iptables
[12:54] <ubotu> Gobbla: I give up, what is it?
[12:54] <JairunCaloth> does ubuntu support software ide raid arrays?
[12:54] <hashheadz> if u can do the source u can install anything
[12:54] <Beryllium> X11/Intrinsic.h - anyone know what package in Universe provides this file?
[12:54] <indypende> now i can use xsane only with gksudo or i get not device!
[12:55] <robotgeek> nice, the new pbbuttonsd has a feature. disable touchpad while typing
[12:55] <DansFloyd> hey... i need help installing my ATI dirvers... casue the last time i tried i totally screwed my xwindows
[12:55] <Seveas> indypende, sudo adduser $USER scanner
[12:55] <Gobbla> that was an automated answer, right? :O
[12:55] <apokryphos> Beryllium: libxt-dev
[12:55] <Seveas> !tell DansFloyd about ati
[12:55] <LittleDan> Seveas, so it's deb http://ubuntu.towers-net.de hoary main ?
[12:55] <Seveas> LittleDan, no just surf to that site
[12:55] <Gobbla> !iptables
[12:55] <ubotu> Gobbla: What?
[12:56] <Gobbla> what the...
[12:56] <indypende> Seveas, The user `indypende' is already a member of `scanner'.
[12:56] <hashheadz> yes it was
[12:56] <Seveas> Gobbla, don't play with the bot
[12:56] <Gobbla> i dont?!
[12:56] <Beryllium> apokryphos: Thanks
[12:56] <Beryllium> Any way I can find out that information for myself in the future?
[12:56] <robotgeek> !tell Gobbla about botabuse
[12:56] <Seveas> indypende, hmmm.... what's your scanner device? /dev/scanner?
[12:56] <hashheadz> !tell Gobbla about Sex
[12:56] <indypende> Seveas, hp scanjet 2300 c
[12:57] <kamiro1987> it worked.
[12:57] <Gobbla> how about telling me about iptables?
[12:57] <kamiro1987> thanx!
[12:57] <indypende> Seveas, but with gksudo work perfect
[12:57] <Seveas> no bot playing I said.
[12:57] <Gobbla> i dont play, i want to know..
[12:57] <kamiro1987> does anyone know how to set up 2 screens with 2 different graphics cards.
[12:57] <kamiro1987> ?
[12:57] <LittleDan> Seveas, thanks
[12:57] <Seveas> indypende, no i mean the device node in /dev
[12:57] <indypende> Seveas, mh?
[12:57] <Beryllium> !tell Beryllium about the urban legend that michael jackson had a rib removed so that he could fellate himself
[12:58] <indypende> Seveas, talk easy...italian!
[12:58] <Liz> can anyone tell me how to remove firefox without allowing the upgrade to upgrade itself?
[12:58] <kamiro1987> brb
[12:58] <indypende> Seveas, talk easy...newbie(opps)!
[12:58] <Seveas> indypende, hehe, paste the output of ls -la /dev/scanner in a private chat
[12:58] <indypende> ok
[12:58] <Liz> ive tried unselecting it in synaptic ..and its not working
[12:58] <Gobbla> could a friendly soul make obotu trell me about iptables since he doesent like me?
[12:58] <Gobbla> *tell
[12:59] <Seveas> Gobbla, there are no factoids about iptables in ubotu currently
[12:59] <Mirussa> is anyone else having trouble with upgrading to 1.0.7 of firefox?
[12:59] <indypende> Seveas, no such file....
[12:59] <Gobbla> okay, thanks Seveas
[12:59] <Seveas> easiest to do is to install an iptables frontend like firestarter or shorewall
[12:59] <ompaul> Mirussa, have a look at the topic
[12:59] <Gobbla> what i really wanna know is how to make a ipv6 router
[12:59] <Seveas> indypende, ok, then type this: ls -al /dev | /tmp/dev_list
[01:00] <Liz> omp, im not using any of the backports
[01:00] <Seveas> and paste the contents of /tmp/dev_list on http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:00] <Liz> so that doesnt help
[01:00] <Mirussa> stop using old crappy backports?
[01:00] <Seveas> 'navond apsync
[01:01] <apsync> hi
[01:01] <blekos> do u know the meaning of:couldn't find package kubunto-desktop
[01:01] <blekos> ?
[01:01] <indypende> Seveas, i can't
[01:01] <apokryphos> blekos: yes; you're typing it wrong
[01:01] <Seveas> indypende, why not?
[01:01] <indypende> Seveas, it is correct this command
[01:02] <Seveas> blekos, you misspelled it
[01:02] <blekos> don't think so
[01:02] <Seveas> it's kubuntu-desktop
[01:02] <Seveas> not kubunto-desktop
[01:02] <apokryphos> Seveas: know any reason why autocompletion isn't on by default?
[01:02] <indypende> Seveas, bash: /tmp/dev_list: No such file or directory
[01:02] <apsync> I have a weird error, when I start my pc I get, cannot start x server, cannot load module 'nvidia' (does not exist) I tried editing xorg.conf by changing nvidia to vesa, but still desktop is not loading, how can I download/install latest drivers via terminal or can I do something else?
[01:02] <blekos> i tried that and get the same meggafe
[01:02] <Lars_G> Seveas: Will I be kicked if I insult users?
[01:02] <p_jnco> hi
[01:02] <robotgeek> apokryphos: autocompletion where?
[01:02] <p_jnco> yes lars
[01:02] <esac> grrrrrr im getting tired of my laptop freezing on me. i wish somebody could advise me what to do to help get this resolved. im worried that this issue will still be here when breezy is released
[01:02] <Seveas> Lars_G, kicked and banned
[01:02] <robotgeek> Lars_G: yep
[01:02] <p_jnco> anyone feel like helping me
[01:02] <p_jnco> hey robotgeek!
[01:02] <p_jnco> =)
[01:02] <robotgeek> p_jnco: hey
[01:02] <Lars_G> damn, well thanks anyhow.
[01:02] <p_jnco> u helped me yesterday
[01:03] <blekos> it's reading dependencies and building dependecy tree
[01:03] <p_jnco> anyone want to tell me how i can change my xorg.conf file
[01:03] <p_jnco> so that ..
[01:03] <Seveas> indypende, ok, then type this: ls -al /dev > /tmp/dev_list
[01:03] <p_jnco> the login screen isnt messed up
[01:03] <Seveas> indypende, sorry, ny stupid mistake
[01:03] <p_jnco> because its too high of a refresh rate
[01:03] <Lars_G> p_jnco: Messed up?
[01:03] <p_jnco> i need to keep it at 70
[01:03] <apokryphos> robotgeek: I think it's general bash autocompletion (not just for commands). Means you can use autocomplete on things like apt (I have it running here pretty well)
[01:03] <p_jnco> its at 75 for the login screen
[01:03] <p_jnco> and its blurry
[01:03] <p_jnco> hz
[01:03] <Lars_G> p_jnco: ah ok..... hmmmm
[01:03] <Seveas> apokryphos, look at ~/.bash_profile ~/.bashrc
[01:04] <indypende> Seveas, your help is all i need... fantastic
[01:04] <Mirussa> well my upgrade to 1.0.7 went just fine on my other computer, and I'm getting some error about classic or something, I thought maybe it was related to my firefox theme perhaps?
[01:04] <robotgeek> apokryphos: i think i have it enabled to, .inputrc stuff right?
[01:04] <indypende> Seveas, then?
[01:04] <Seveas> somewhere in there you enable it
[01:04] <Lars_G> p_jnco: Have you set the refresh rate ranges for your monitor in the config file?
[01:04] <Seveas> indypende, that command worked?
[01:04] <apsync> when I start my pc I get, cannot start x server, cannot load module 'nvidia' (does not exist) I tried editing xorg.conf by changing nvidia to vesa, but still desktop is not loading, how can I download/install latest drivers via terminal or can I do something else?
[01:04] <indypende> Seveas, yes yes
[01:04] <viclinux> ok
[01:04] <tristanmike> Mirussa, I had problems today
[01:04] <Lars_G> apokryphos: Bash includes it? I tought only ksh had it.
[01:04] <Seveas> indypende, good, now open /tmp/dev_list in a text editor and copy the contnts to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:04] <indypende> ok
[01:05] <indypende> Seveas, just a moment
[01:05] <Mirussa> tristanmike: you did? did you happen to resolve or are you still having problems?
[01:05] <blekos> how i can see what is loaded in startup?
[01:05] <robotgeek> p_jnco: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:05] <apokryphos> aha, yeah, it is bash completion
[01:05] <tristanmike> Mirussa, I would get the standard "Starting Firefox Browser" for a few seconds, then poof, nothing
[01:05] <apokryphos> Seveas, robotgeek: nah, I mean the one you get with  . /etc/bash_completion
[01:06] <indypende> Seveas, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2469
[01:06] <Seveas> apokryphos, it's in there!
[01:06] <Mirussa> tristanmike: yes that is what is happening to me now too
[01:06] <robotgeek> apokryphos: i have that enabled too :)
[01:06] <vbgunz> anyone know of the shortcut key for killing an app is?
[01:06] <apokryphos> Seveas: yes, I know.. ;-). As I said, any reason why it's not on by default?
[01:06] <Seveas> pkill app-name
[01:06] <apokryphos> robotgeek: cool :)
[01:06] <Seveas> apokryphos, it's resource-hungry
[01:07] <tristanmike> Mirussa, open System Monitor and end the firefox process
[01:07] <Lars_G> vbgunz: In what desktop?
[01:07] <apokryphos> could be at times I guess
[01:07] <vbgunz> Gnome
[01:07] <Lars_G> vbgunz: Not sure, sorry
[01:07] <vbgunz> thanks anyway ;)
[01:07] <Lars_G> vbgunz: Use the command Seveas suggested
[01:07] <Seveas> indypende, sudo adduser $USER lp
[01:07] <Mirussa> tristanmike: I did.. ended firefox-bin was the process that I ended.. and then retried it.. still same issue
[01:07] <chavo> bash_completion + apt-get == :)
[01:07] <tristanmike> Mirussa, open synaptic and search for firefox and tell me how many packages are installed
[01:08] <tristanmike> Mirussa, my issue is resolved, but it was confusing on how I actually got it, but I'll help you as best I can
[01:08] <indypende> Seveas, i've try but xsane don't run again
[01:09] <Mirussa> tristanmike: thanks for any help you can give me.. and I have 3 packages installed and they are listed as version 1.0.6
[01:09] <tristanmike> Mirussa, what packs?
[01:09] <vbgunz> thank you seveas... was hoping a shortcut combination was available
[01:09] <tristanmike> Mirussa, that's good, less than I had ;)
[01:09] <gizmosis> hi
[01:10] <indypende> gizmosis, hi
[01:10] <gizmosis> how are u
[01:10] <Mirussa> tristanmike: firefox, mozilla-firefox and mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb
[01:11] <ben__> hello
[01:11] <apsync> when I start my pc I get, cannot start x server, cannot load module 'nvidia' (does not exist) I tried editing xorg.conf by changing nvidia to vesa, but still desktop is not loading, how can I download/install latest drivers via terminal or can I do something else?
[01:11] <tristanmike> Mirussa, try this, "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" and comment out the two backport address by using "#" save and then "sudo apt-get update"
[01:11] <indypende> Seveas, i can't see no "scanner-like" device in dev_list... you?
[01:11] <Seveas> indypende, it's a printer/scanner combo right?
[01:11] <indypende> Seveas, no
[01:11] <Seveas> oh damn
[01:12] <arkanes> apsync:run sudo nvidia-glx-config disable and restart x
[01:12] <Seveas> ok, new command: ls -alR /dev > /tmp/dev_list
[01:12] <Seveas> and after that paste the contents on the bin again
[01:12] <Mirussa> tristanmike: okay did that..
[01:12] <tristanmike> Mirussa, then "sudo apt-get remove firefox mozilla-firefox mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb" then "sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox"
[01:13] <skel_> is SUN JAVA on breezy cant fidn it in syanptic
[01:13] <Seveas> skel_, blackdown java is there
[01:13] <Seveas> search for j2sdk or j2re
[01:13] <indypende> Seveas, it's a flatbed scanner, supported with the backend genesys
[01:13] <vbgunz> I have a general question... Is there a setting to make all windows remember there last position? XChat launches and cuts itself off with my lower panel... The terminal always launches in a little boxed window above all others... Image viewer always shows up with a crushed info tree... No matter how I modify these apps, they never open the way I closed them... is there a hidden setting somewhere for this behaviour?
[01:14] <Pjkit> Hi there! Is anyone having troble updating to firefox 1.07 with aptitude?
[01:14] <QMario> Bye Seveas, ompaul, and the rest!!! :)
[01:14] <ompaul> QMario, good luck
[01:14] <Seveas> Pjkit, -> topic
[01:14] <QMario> Thank you, ompaul! ;)
[01:14] <Mirussa> tristanmike: yay! that worked.. thank you very much.. great work! :)
[01:14] <vbgunz> on Breezy, 1.07 works pretty good but believe I found a bug... If you right click an image on the web with firefox and select "set as desktop wallpaper" firefox will eventually close itself out
[01:15] <vbgunz> try it out, see if my bug is true
[01:15] <skel_> wow thanks Seveas
[01:15] <indypende> Seveas, my scanner is here /proc/bus/usb/001/003
[01:15] <tristanmike> Mirussa, you can also "sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb" if you want too
[01:15] <indypende> i'm sure
[01:15] <esac> does anybody know the email address to mail the hardware list to (something like u?hd@ubuntu.com) ?
[01:15] <indypende> Seveas, i'm sure
[01:15] <tristanmike> Mirussa, and no problem just spreading the help I received here, it's the least I can to
[01:16] <indypende> Seveas, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2471
[01:16] <tristanmike> *do
[01:17] <Lars_G> Damn how many people are using backports?
[01:17] <Mirussa> tristanmike: so that's what is meant by the backport topic?
[01:17] <vbgunz> does anyone know how to close a window in a certain position and a certain size and when opening the application again, it shows up the way it closes? The way you wish to see it? Currently, it seems all apps show up as default... this is very annoying... any help or tips appreciated!
[01:17] <blekos> it is just not my day
[01:18] <blekos> tried to start in failsafe to remove the damn program and install kubuntu but no lack
[01:18] <nalioth> blekos: what are you wanting to do?
[01:18] <tristanmike> Mirussa, I think, if I'm right, the backports are packages that are created by "we" the user so that they work with Ubuntu, but they are not offical, nor offically tested, and hence, may contain errors, I think don't quote me
[01:18] <blekos> i installed easyubuntu in order to have the codecs loaded
[01:19] <apokryphos> tristanmike: backports used to be third-party, but now there's official backports
[01:19] <blekos> but instead it has removed the whole kde package and now
[01:19] <Pjkit> AYUDA !!! Desempaquetando el reemplazo de mozilla-firefox-gnome-support ...
[01:19] <Pjkit> dpkg: error al procesar /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox-gnome-support_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb (--unpack):
[01:19] <Pjkit>  intentando sobreescribir `/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/libmozgnome.so', que est tambin en el paquete firefox-gnome-support
[01:19] <Pjkit> dpkg-deb: el subproceso paste fue terminado por la seal (Tubera rota)
[01:19] <Pjkit> Se encontraron errores al procesar:
[01:19] <Pjkit>  /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb
[01:19] <Pjkit>  /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox-gnome-support_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb
[01:19] <blekos> i cannot re-inst. it
[01:19] <Pjkit> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[01:19] <Pjkit> Argghh! Algo malo pas mientras se instalaban los paquetes. Intentado recuperar:
[01:19] <Mirussa> tristanmike: ah, I see
[01:19] <Seveas> damn, i'm gone for 3 seconds and some fool starts pasting
[01:19] <tristanmike> apokryphos, and those I should use instead of the ones on ubuntuguide?
[01:19] <nalioth> wow a spanish flood
[01:20] <tristanmike> Mirussa, read apokryphos's comment above
[01:20] <apokryphos> tristanmike: you shouldn't use ubuntuguide, really, at all
[01:20] <Hoxzer> I hate the weather here in finland :(((
[01:20] <nalioth> tristanmike: didn't i warn you about ubuntuguide earlier?
[01:20] <blekos> any ideas malioth?
[01:20] <Hoxzer> it really sucks
[01:20] <Mirussa> apokryphos: we shouldn't? thats where I got mine.. where does one find the proper backports?
[01:20] <Versed> why?
[01:20] <Seveas> Hoxzer, try texas...
[01:20] <Versed> rain?
[01:20] <Hoxzer> :E
[01:20] <Versed> haha
[01:20] <Hoxzer> :D
[01:20] <tristanmike> apokryphos, I know, but when I first installed Ubuntu in June, I was afraid of IRC casue I heard bad things about it, and that was the advice I got on the forums
[01:20] <nalioth> blekos: what is easybuntu?
[01:21] <tristanmike> nalioth, lol
[01:21] <Seveas> nalioth, a crap script from the forum fools...
[01:21] <arkanes> Seveas: I'm in baton rouge and my family is in houston :/
[01:21] <nalioth> afraid of IRC?
[01:21] <blekos> easy ubuntu is a script
[01:21] <apokryphos> nalioth: almost as bad as simpleKDE
[01:21] <nalioth> oh no not the forum fools
[01:21] <indypende> Seveas, have you see my paste?
[01:21] <bipolar> can anyone point me to where I can get w32codecs for breezy?
[01:21] <Seveas> arkanes, ouch :| good luck the next days dude
[01:21] <blekos> seveas put it right
[01:21] <nalioth> arkanes: quit whining. i'm sittin in pasadena, tx right now
[01:21] <apokryphos> tristanmike: hahaha, are you serious?
[01:21] <dooglus> apokryphos: bash auto_completion will be on by defaut in warty apparently.
[01:21] <tristanmike> nalioth, you're the cause behind all this trouble aren't you...shame shame
[01:21] <Seveas> bipolar, seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:21] <mrchicago> anyone use gambas any
[01:21] <tristanmike> apokryphos, yeah, by the mods there
[01:21] <arkanes> Seveas: thanks
[01:21] <apokryphos> dooglus: warty is older version
[01:21] <apokryphos> tristanmike: that's hilarious
[01:21] <blekos> is there any chance to restore some of the original settings?
[01:22] <apokryphos> Seveas: did you hear that? ;-)
[01:22] <dooglus> apokryphos: grumpy then?
[01:22] <nalioth> blekos: what have you tried?
[01:22] <dooglus> I get them mixed up...
[01:22] <blekos> i tried with synaptic
[01:22] <blekos> but cannot get all dependecies work...
[01:22] <apokryphos> dooglus: dapper is the version after breezy
[01:22] <blekos> i have chosen all repositories
[01:23] <dooglus> apokryphos: grumpy is the ongoing development version - grumpy groundhog
[01:23] <nalioth> blekos: are you using official repositories?
[01:23] <apokryphos> tristanmike: considering the majority of the developers (and certainly all the big ones) use IRC...
[01:23] <felipe_> Hello anyone knows which is the default password for the root user? I can't log in...
[01:23] <bipolar> Seveas, thanks!
[01:23] <apokryphos> dooglus: thanks, I know :)
[01:23] <nalioth> !tell felipe_ about root
[01:23] <blekos> yes
[01:24] <nalioth> blekos: remove kde-base
[01:24] <dooglus> apokryphos: ok.  you were asking about bash's completion.  i was trying to tell you.  it'll be turned on once breezy is out
[01:24] <tristanmike> apokryphos, here is my first post after posting about installing ubuntu, i had trouble there too *blush* http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41806 this is where the problem started I guess
[01:24] <tristanmike> apokryphos, I know, but still, FUD has a large impact on people, you know
[01:24] <misfit_toy> so Seveas are you a DEV?
[01:24] <blekos> kdebase is not installed...
[01:25] <apokryphos> blekos: what's the problem?
[01:25] <misfit_toy> Seveas, great fix that udev thing, now, do I *not* do another upgrade? 'cause I see x-common sitting out there again...
[01:25] <pdb> imgetting an error when starting up about hardrive sectors containg errors help!!
[01:25] <blekos> kubuntu-desktop:
[01:25] <blekos>  Depends: gwenview but it is not going to be installed
[01:25] <blekos> that is the problem
[01:25] <apokryphos> blekos: hoary?
[01:25] <mrchicago> hey i made a program to brighten amonitor in gambas how do i get it on sourceforge
[01:25] <blekos> nop
[01:26] <blekos> 5.10
[01:26] <apokryphos> blekos: did you have kubuntu-desktop installed before you did a dist-upgrade?
[01:26] <nalioth> blekos: is it kdebase or kde-base? just WHAT kde stuff do you have installed?
[01:26] <apokryphos> nalioth: kdebase is the package name
[01:26] <blekos> k3b, quanta & kontact
[01:26] <blekos> i had gnome
[01:26] <funkyHat> i've just followed the drop shadows tutorial in the ubuntu wiki, and certain options for xcompmgr are causing X to crash... has anyone else had something similar happen?
[01:26] <blekos> i installed kde
[01:26] <nalioth> blekos: get rid of all kde stuff
[01:27] <blekos> everything worked fine
[01:27] <funkyHat> and managed to get it fixed{
[01:27] <apokryphos> blekos: you didn't answer my question :)
[01:27] <funkyHat> *?
[01:27] <nalioth> blekos: actually, if you could do in reverse what got you into this mess
[01:27] <blekos> could not hear mp3 or play divx
[01:27] <blekos> and the script was suppoesed to install everything :((
[01:28] <apokryphos> you're being pretty cryptic here
[01:28] <blekos> i'll try to remove everything kde...
[01:28] <apokryphos> blekos: you should install kde by getting kubuntu-desktop
[01:28] <apokryphos> and when you upgrade to breezy, you should always have a buntu-desktop installed
[01:28] <_jason> hi
[01:28] <blekos> that's what I'm trying to do but :
[01:29] <blekos> kubuntu-desktop:
[01:29] <blekos>  Depends: gwenview but it is not going to be installed
[01:29] <apokryphos> blekos: obviously before you didn't try installing kubuntu-desktop first
[01:29] <mrchicago> shiat
[01:29] <blekos> as u can see i cannot go any further since dependencies r not satisfied
[01:29] <ericz> when does breezy like officially come out or is there no date, just "sometime in october or november"
[01:29] <ericz> ?
[01:29] <DaaJeH> Hello
[01:29] <blekos> i have tried...
[01:29] <funkyHat> ericz, 13th of october
[01:29] <tristanmike> ericz, oct 13
[01:29] <apokryphos> blekos: that problem came about because you upgraded incorrectly, presumable
[01:29] <opteek> how can i change the profile firefox is using??
[01:29] <ericz> oh alright
[01:29] <blekos> i had it all perfect b4 the bloody script
[01:29] <_jason> I need some help installing java.  The forums have several different answers.  What do you recommend?
[01:29] <boxerboy29> rc comes out on oct 3 and final on oct 13
[01:30] <apokryphos> opteek: I think it's an option from firefox --help
[01:30] <dooglus> firefox -P
[01:30] <nalioth> _jason: hoary or breezy?
[01:30] <apokryphos> blekos: what script?
[01:30] <_jason> hoary
[01:30] <dooglus> (capital P)
[01:30] <ericz> will shipit send out breezy cd's?
[01:30] <blekos> easyubuntu
[01:30] <apokryphos> ergh
[01:30] <boxerboy29> yes when the final comes out
[01:30] <nalioth> ericz: when they are available, yes
[01:30] <felipe_> where can I get the w32codecs? the apt-get is not finding them
[01:30] <ericz> alright, thanks
[01:30] <boxerboy29> yw
[01:30] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell felipe_ about w32codecs
[01:30] <bystander> !w32codecs
[01:30] <ubotu> w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs or breezy: seveas.ubuntulinux.nl. 64bit? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[01:30] <DaaJeH> I get this msg when trying to install libpng-dev
[01:31] <DaaJeH> Reading Package Lists... Done
[01:31] <DaaJeH> Building Dependency Tree... Done
[01:31] <DaaJeH> Package libpng-dev is a virtual package provided by:
[01:31] <DaaJeH>   libpng12-dev 1.2.5.0-7ubuntu1
[01:31] <DaaJeH> You should explicitly select one to install.
[01:31] <DaaJeH> E: Package libpng-dev has no installation candidate
[01:31] <apokryphos> Seveas: damn you, beat me this time 8)
[01:31] <tristanmike> felipe_, or you could look here too
[01:31] <tristanmike> felipe_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:31] <leopard> has that xfonts problem been fixed?
[01:32] <Seveas> leopard, no
[01:32] <leopard> :-)
[01:32] <indypende> Seveas, you leave me lone?
[01:32] <misfit_toy>  I was reading somewhere in the ubuntu forums that someone had an "art-manager" app after installing breezy, I don't see this, does anyone else?
[01:32] <misfit_toy> misfit_toy for theming, etc...
[01:32] <boxerboy29> i found out with all the repos you can get java plug in from synaptic
[01:32] <cormorano> hi
[01:32] <Seveas> indypende, sorry, was busy with 7 other things :)
[01:33] <apokryphos> boxerboy29: well, with a different one, yes.
[01:33] <indypende> Seveas, ok
[01:33] <puff> ./j2eesdk-1_4-linux.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:33] <indypende> Seveas, sorry
[01:33] <puff> Hm.
[01:33] <Seveas> incubii, but no idea what's going on there, I don't see a scanner device
[01:33] <blekos> i think i removed every k*
[01:33] <blekos> and now nalioth?
[01:33] <sockpuppe1> whats with firefox?
[01:34] <red_blood> hello people! do you know a nice flight simulator for ubuntu?
[01:34] <mrchicago> flightgear
[01:34] <Seveas> puff libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2: usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
[01:34] <mrchicago> and that rescue copter game
[01:34] <_jason> boxerboy29, do you know which repo had it?
[01:34] <mrchicago> works great on my laptop
[01:34] <boxerboy29> i have all enabled
[01:34] <bipolar> Seveas, can I get an account for your repo?
[01:34] <incubii> ill assume you werent actually talking to me :P
[01:34] <blekos> damn it no luck again...
[01:35] <blekos> it really get on my nerves
[01:35] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell boxerboy29 abotu sunjava
[01:35] <boxerboy29> multiuniverse included
[01:35] <apokryphos> boxerboy29: it's not in any of the Ubuntu-provided ones
[01:35] <dale> newbee - I am getting the following error when updating  xcommon--- E: /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.08_all.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/X11/fonts', which is also in package xfonts-base...can someone help
[01:35] <Seveas> apokryphos, note that he wants to use j2ee which is not supported by any of the option on the wiki/repos :)
[01:35] <Seveas> dale, known bug, just wait...
[01:35] <sockpuppe1> apokryphos whats wrong with the repo for firefox
[01:35] <apokryphos> oh
[01:35] <puff> Seveas: I only have libstdc++.so.5 and libstdc++.so.5.0.7
[01:35] <boxerboy29> than im guessing it comes with the multis?
[01:36] <apokryphos> sockpuppe1: what version of ubuntu and what firefox?
[01:36] <WebLOCH> hey Seveas
[01:36] <Seveas> puff, then install the other version too
[01:36] <sockpuppe1> hoary/1.0.7
[01:36] <Seveas> libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2
[01:36] <mrchicago> man tuxkart isnt running all that well
[01:36] <blekos> can u pls tell me how i can see my start up file?
[01:36] <Seveas> sockpuppe1, get rid of backports crud
[01:36] <blekos> maybe there is smg there running...
[01:36] <apokryphos> Seveas: erm, nope, he just wants the java plugin I presume
[01:36] <sophie_> blekos: boot.log
[01:36] <tristanmike> sockpuppe1, firefox wont start?
[01:36] <whyameye> any tips on installing the Java Virtual Machine under Wine with IE?
[01:36] <sockpuppe1> nope
[01:36] <apokryphos> boxerboy29: what is it you're looking for? Just the java plugin (for your browser etc)? j2re?
[01:36] <blekos> hmm
[01:37] <blekos> and how xctly i do that?
[01:37] <Seveas> whyameye, you atually got IE to work with wine?
[01:37] <WebLOCH> Seveas, I did
[01:37] <blekos> sorry newb round here ;)
[01:37] <blekos> :_
[01:37] <apokryphos> sockpuppe1: nope?
[01:37] <tristanmike> sockpuppe1, I'll tell you how to fix
[01:37] <boxerboy29> i have j2re already i didnt know getting it from synaptic was bad
[01:37] <apokryphos> boxerboy29: it's not
[01:37] <sockpuppe1> cool thing tristanmikw
[01:37] <Seveas> WebLOCH, neat, how :)
[01:37] <dale> Seveas --- thx...soon to be fixed???
[01:37] <whyameye> Seveas, yep. I run a script for it. It works great. I could try to remember where I got the script if it helps you.
[01:37] <Seveas> dale, hopefully
[01:37] <apokryphos> sockpuppe1: remove the backports repository, remove firefox, then refresh your list and get firefox
[01:37] <viclinux> join gnomehispano
[01:37] <tristanmike> sockpuppe1, , try this, "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" and comment out the two backport address by using "#" save and then "sudo apt-get update"
[01:38] <joh> can anyone tell me what's happening with the nvidia drivers in linux-restricted-modules?
[01:38] <Seveas> whyameye, it would help, I develop a lot of web pages which should be somewhat usable in IE too
[01:38] <WebLOCH> Seveas, all i had to do was install wine, then install IE, I found a couple of ways of doing it, "wine-tools-sidenet" i think was the esiest way of doing it
[01:38] <dale> Seveas...where r u
[01:38] <nalioth> blekos: are you being sorted?
[01:38] <blekos> sorry???
[01:38] <whyameye> Seveas: let me look around and see if I can recall the steps. I'll let you know either way.
[01:38] <_jason> If I just want the JRE without the SDK where can I find it?
[01:38] <tristanmike> sockpuppe1, wait, do me a favor
[01:38] <Zodiac> Hey guys, anybody figure out how to get their processor applet working at full speed with the latest breezy updates yet?
[01:38] <nalioth> blekos: are you making progress?
[01:38] <WebLOCH> Seveas,  it was wine-config-sidnet sorry
[01:39] <blekos> nop :((
[01:39] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell _jason about sunjava
[01:39] <Seveas> WebLOCH, ah, I tried to run IE from my ntfs disk where winxp is rotting :)
[01:39] <WebLOCH> Seveas, - http://sidenet.ddo.jp/winetips/config.html
[01:39] <indypende> Seveas, look at this thread http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=86334
[01:39] <Lars_G> Zodiac: processor applet?
[01:39] <blekos> i doubt if i'll make any sense
[01:39] <WebLOCH> Seveas, I havent tried that yet
[01:39] <Mirussa> its amazing how many people are having the same problems with firefox
[01:39] <indypende> Seveas, don't work for me but seem to be the answer for someone.
[01:39] <puff> Hm, never had a glibc dependency with the jdk before.  I wonder if I really want to install this one, or maybe I should install j2sdk-1_4_2_08-linux-i586.bin instead.
[01:40] <apokryphos> Mirussa: it's generally down to evil backports
[01:40] <Zodiac> actually, my entire processor seems stuck at 500 mhz
[01:40] <nalioth> blekos: did you remove aall the kde apps?
[01:40] <WebLOCH> Seveas, but it expects a windows drive to be set up with primary paths and all that so it would expect "C:\program files\IE\" to be its home dir, not "Windata\Program files\IE"
[01:40] <sockpuppe1> now what tristanmike
[01:40] <tristanmike> sockpuppe1, open synaptic and search for firefox and tell me how many packages are installed
[01:40] <indypende> Seveas, it can be only a permission trouble!
[01:40] <sockpuppe1> tristanmike now what
[01:40] <blekos> believe yes
[01:40] <apokryphos> puff: you can just use the .debs
[01:41] <Zodiac> Anybody know what the hell I am talking about?
[01:41] <sockpuppe1> 3 packages
[01:41] <mrchicago> uh
[01:41] <tristanmike> sockpuppe1, ok,
[01:41] <mrchicago> there isnt a program that bightend the monitor
[01:41] <blekos> i try to remove easyubuntu but it will not let me do so
[01:41] <bonee> fluxbox
[01:41] <dale> looks like your busy Seveas...thx for the heads up...
[01:42] <_jason> apokryphos, I added the repo but synaptic complains with an error message
[01:42] <tristanmike> sockpuppe1, , then "sudo apt-get remove firefox mozilla-firefox mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb" then "sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox"
[01:42] <Zodiac> blekos: are you talking about the new breezy updates??
[01:42] <apokryphos> blekos: can you pastebin this script?
[01:42] <WebLOCH> Seveas, do you remember who helped me with my audio problems yesterday?
[01:42] <tristanmike> sockpuppe1, those are the packs I assume...
[01:42] <blekos> i'll try...
[01:42] <apokryphos> _jason: can you pastebin it?
[01:42] <p_jnco> hey kids, does anyone know how to default a refresh rate in my xorg.conf file
[01:42] <boxerboy29> zodiac i have a 450mhz processer and i have no problems with updates whats wrong with running at 500?
[01:42] <p_jnco> 75 aint workin and i want it to run at 70
[01:42] <p_jnco> only
[01:42] <_jason> apokryphos, i don't know what pastebin means sry im a noob
[01:42] <p_jnco> ?
[01:42] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell _jason about pastebin
[01:42] <Zodiac> boxboy29: umm nothing, unless you have a 1.6 ghz processor
[01:43] <whyameye> Seveas: okay. Go to this site: http://sidenet.ddo.jp/winetips/config.html. Also, you have to install a newer version of Wine than what is in the Hoary repo. I have version 20050725.
[01:43] <tristanmike> Mirussa, yeah, well, I guess the update broke it for everybody
[01:43] <nalioth> _jason: type /topic
[01:43] <p_jnco> does anyone know how to default a refresh rate in my xorg.conf file?
[01:43] <Zodiac> The new update sucked
[01:43] <p_jnco> i know how to edit it
[01:43] <p_jnco> im just not sure what settings to change
[01:43] <whyameye> Seveas: if I recall correctly, this sript wipes whatever you have setup already in Wine. Not sure if this can be avoided.
[01:43] <indypende> Seveas, i've solved
[01:43] <funkyHat> anyone got composite working on the latest breezy?
[01:43] <indypende> SEve:)
[01:44] <indypende> Seveas, :)
[01:44] <indypende> Seveas, :)
[01:44] <boxerboy29> zodiac: you will find bugs with breezy its still in testing
[01:44] <tristanmike> sockpuppe1, how you coming along there?
[01:44] <Mirussa> tristanmike: thanks again for your help.. I have to dash.. take care.
[01:44] <Zodiac> boxerboy29: yea I got that, thanks for your help... I was wondering though if anyone had a fix for this bug
[01:44] <blekos> it has *.deb xtension
[01:44] <whyameye> Seveas: one more tip. Install the windows fonts.
[01:45] <_n00blar_> Is anyone having problems updating the x-common update package?
[01:45] <tristanmike> Mirussa, no prob, anytime
[01:45] <Zodiac> _n00blar_: There are threads all over the forums about that
[01:45] <Zodiac> check there
[01:45] <_jason> apokryphos, here is my error message: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2472
[01:45] <Seveas> Zodiac, forums won't help
[01:45] <Seveas> it's a bug that's being solved
[01:46] <Zodiac> well it will help for the font one
[01:46] <_rb_> heyas. I want to copy a website and make it available offline. I then want to be able to chuck the thing on a laptop so i can use it on sites that i need the information. I dont want to use httrack, it dont work properly. Anyone know of a good fast one thats free i can use in ubuntu ?
[01:46] <sockpuppe1> ytistanmike it isnt working
[01:46] <Zodiac> but not the other bigger one
[01:46] <Seveas> Zodiac, READ, that was not his issue
[01:46] <Seveas> and solutions from the forums ime generally suck
[01:46] <p_jnco> does anyone know how to default a refresh rate in my xorg.conf file?
[01:46] <Seveas> _rb_, wget --mirror
[01:46] <Zodiac> Ummm are you talking about nooblar?
[01:46] <apokryphos> _jason: hm, one sec.
[01:46] <_jason> apokryphos, take your time
[01:47] <Zodiac> The X font issue isnt the proccessor issue
[01:47] <_rb_> coo. ta Seveas
[01:47] <Zodiac> and there is a fix for it
[01:47] <SpokeyDokey> Hi everyone, I'm having a problem with the Weather Report panel program, it never updates, and I know another person who's having the same problem. Is this a problem with the program or the Weather Report server?
[01:47] <sockpuppe1> tristan i figured it out
[01:47] <Seveas> Zodiac, no it's the x-common issue from today and there is not yet a fix for it
[01:47] <tristanmike> sockpuppe1, you commented out the backports?
[01:47] <tristanmike> sockpuppe1, what was it?
[01:47] <cesarin> ok ladies and gentlemen, I destroyed my 64 bit version and came with the 32 bits version
[01:47] <cesarin> screw buggy java & flash :P
[01:48] <bonee> what is the site for all the repositories
[01:48] <Seveas> !tell bonee about sources
[01:48] <cesarin> !tell bonee repositories
[01:48] <SpokeyDokey> !tell bonee repositories
[01:48] <cesarin> lp
[01:49] <cesarin> argh, clicked wrong window lol
[01:49] <tristanmike> sockpuppe1, how did you fix it...?
[01:49] <GrannyTux> i gave up on 64 bit too
[01:49] <spackest> so, I might be wrong, but /etc/postgresql/postgresql.conf sure doesn't seem to get honored in 5.04 for postgresql
[01:49] <spackest> anyone here build that?
[01:49] <apokryphos> _jason: you didn't run apt-get update first?
[01:49] <GrannyTux> waiting for java and flash to work right
[01:49] <Ravi`s> have cd ubuntu
[01:49] <sockpuppe1> tristanmike its still toasted man
[01:49] <_jason> apokryphos, no
[01:49] <p_jnco> nevermind got it
[01:50] <_jason> apokryphos, do i have to?
[01:50] <tristanmike> sockpuppe1, what's happening, or not happening?
[01:50] <apokryphos> _jason: everytime you change your sources.list you have to, yes.
[01:50] <sockpuppe1> it doesnt start at all
[01:50] <apokryphos> _jason: so it can refresh the package list, basically.
[01:50] <Earthen> how do i tell what version of xfree86 im running
[01:50] <_jason> apokryphos, ok so just sudo apt-get update?
[01:50] <apokryphos> Earthen: unless you're on warty, you're running xorg
[01:50] <apokryphos> _jason: yup
[01:50] <spackest> just trying to get tcpip_socket honored and it isn't working
[01:51] <spackest> driving me nuts
[01:51] <Earthen> I'm on horey
[01:51] <cesarin> Btw, Im running in i386 mode, anyone knows what is the best core for my AMD athlon 64 3000+ ?
[01:51] <Earthen> OK I want to know what ATI driver to down load
[01:51] <apokryphos> Earthen: then you have Xorg
[01:51] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell Earthen about ati
[01:51] <Earthen> apokryphos, ok thank you
[01:52] <nalioth> cesarin: 686
[01:52] <cesarin> nalioth: good to see you here again :>
[01:52] <apsync> hi, there was a tool that allowed me to access/read files in my ntfs partition/hd, what was that tool name/url again?
[01:52] <nalioth> cesarin: only for a few
[01:52] <tristanmike> sockpuppe1, check synaptic for firefox again and see what's there
[01:52] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell apsync about windowsdrives
[01:52] <cesarin> nalioth, I destroyed my 64 bit version since it was a pain in the ass to install java & other platforms, so Im now on i386, can you tell me how to switch to i686?
[01:52] <_jason> apokryphos: now I want sun-j2re1.5 correct? and after I do this should I comment this repo out?
[01:52] <cesarin> *lol*
[01:53] <nalioth> cesarin: in synaptic, choose the 686 kernel
[01:53] <Seveas> cesarin, apt-get install linux-686
[01:53] <Seveas> and reboot
[01:53] <cesarin> ok thanks
[01:53] <apokryphos> _jason: not vital to comment it out, but if you only want the j2re then it shouldn't really matter, yeah.
[01:53] <Ravi`s> was that have cd ubuntu
[01:53] <Ravi`s> i need cd ubuntu
[01:53] <Ravi`s> please
[01:53] <cesarin> nalioth,  Seveas : thanks!, but for now, to install all the patches first
[01:53] <cesarin> ^-^
[01:53] <spackest> guess I am trying to say that the postgres that ships with 5.04 for athlon 64 is busted
[01:54] <tristanmike> sockpuppe1, oh, I might have missed something, sorry, open up System Monitor, and end the firefox process
[01:54] <apokryphos> Ravi`s: erm, what? You want the Ubuntu ISO?
[01:55] <cesarin> apokryphos, : he seem to be using a translator
[01:55] <sockpuppe1> killed the process
[01:55] <sockpuppe1> now reinstall
[01:55] <sockpuppe1> ?
 Ravi`s: erm, what? You want the Ubuntu ISO? <-- no i need cd ubuntu for canada
[01:55] <Ravi`s> i from indonesia
[01:55] <felipe_> Something really weird just happened, I cant open web pages and I when I try to ping any site I get ping: unknown host www.blabla.com
[01:55] <apokryphos> Ravi`s: http://shipit.ubuntu.com
[01:55] <tristanmike> sockpuppe1, search synaptic again for firefox and tell me how many you have now?
[01:55] <cesarin> ISO = image from a CD, so you burn it
[01:55] <sockpuppe1> tristanmike nothing
[01:56] <Ravi`s> i need original
[01:56] <sockpuppe1> i removed it all
[01:56] <Ravi`s> man
[01:56] <tristanmike> sockpuppe1, nothing?
[01:56] <sockpuppe1> i removed it
[01:56] <apokryphos> cesarin: they have *really* bad national connections in Indonesia; probably doesn't want the ISO.
[01:56] <sockpuppe1> so i must reinstall yes?
[01:56] <tristanmike> sockpuppe1, then "sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox"
[01:56] <apokryphos> *international
[01:56] <WebLOCH> Seveas, you still about ?
[01:56] <Seveas> no
[01:57] <WebLOCH> Seveas, damn you, get back here.
[01:57] <Ravi`s> i have iso
[01:57] <Seveas> I'm going to bed :)
[01:57] <cesarin> apokryphos, : ic :/
[01:57] <spackest> and /etc/postgresql/pg_hba.conf too
[01:57] <apokryphos> Ravi`s: from the above link, you can order CDs
[01:57] <Ravi`s> i have ubuntu iso
[01:57] <cesarin> Seveas,  have a good time there man
[01:57] <cesarin> Seveas,  dont forget to clean it :P
[01:57] <apokryphos> Ravi`s: excellent!
[01:57] <spackest> anyone care about postgres? :)
[01:57] <tristanmike> Seveas, sweet dreams
[01:57] <hd420> yep
[01:57] <WebLOCH> Seveas, before you go, do you remember who helped me get my audio working last time?
[01:57] <Ravi`s> and no cd riginal
[01:57] <apokryphos> ?
[01:57] <apokryphos> 'night Seveas
[01:57] <Seveas> WebLOCH, http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/
[01:58] <WebLOCH> ahhhhhh
[01:58] <cesarin> Ravi`s, : try http://babelfish.altavista.com
[01:58] <_jason> apokryphos: works great... thank you.
[01:58] <apokryphos> cool
[01:58] <WebLOCH> awesome
[01:58] <sockpuppe1> hey tristanmike I got it
[01:58] <sockpuppe1> !
[01:58] <ubotu> No idea, sockpuppe1
[01:58] <tristanmike> sockpuppe1, nice
[01:58] <sockpuppe1> and I have the latest opera installed
[01:59] <tristanmike> sockpuppe1, you can also "sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb" if you want too
[01:59] <WebLOCH> Seveas, sleep well and thanks
[01:59] <sockpuppe1> tristan im not british
[01:59] <sockpuppe1> lol
[01:59] <tristanmike> sockpuppe1, neither am I
[01:59] <sockpuppe1> lol
[01:59] <tristanmike> sockpuppe1, but it was installed before, I did, just to keep things the same
[01:59] <sockpuppe1> out of uriosity, which is more secure firefox or opera
[01:59] <sockpuppe1> ?
[01:59] <spackest> good old /etc/postgresql/postmaster.conf is the only conf I see in my strace of /etc/init.d/postgresql startup
[02:00] <sockpuppe1> i dont wanna start a flame war
[02:00] <nalioth> sockpuppe1: go to #ubuntu-offtopic and flame away
[02:00] <cesarin> nalioth,  btw, by any chance you remember the wiki url for activating the an intellimouse explorer v.3 on X11 ?
[02:00] <apsync> what is the command to edit sound options?
[02:00] <Xenguy> FF is free; that's what really counts IMHO
[02:00] <Ravi`s> www.padepokanlinux.cjb.net  <--- i like distribution distro linux
[02:01] <nalioth> cesarin: search the wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[02:01] <cesarin> will do, thanks
[02:01] <Ravi`s> and colection distro Linux
[02:01] <sockpuppe1> nalioth im not starting a flame war
[02:01] <ol> how can i verify my burned CD in windows?
[02:01] <alexandros> could someone help me when I tried to upgrade to firefox 1.0.7 it failed and broke my current firefox installation
[02:01] <sockpuppe1> i just want a simple answer
[02:01] <apokryphos> alexandros: comment out the backports in your sources.list, remove the firefox, and then reinstall
[02:02] <jroes> sockpuppe1: I think it would depend a lot on what you consider "secure"
[02:02] <jroes> sockpuppe1: most people in ubuntu world would probably tend to favor Firefox, though, considering it's open source
[02:02] <nalioth> sockpuppe1: neither
[02:02] <sockpuppe1> thankis nalioth
[02:02] <sockpuppe1> and thanks jroes
[02:03] <sockpuppe1> thanks for the help folks
[02:03] <jroes> sockpuppe1: a lot of evidence suggests that security through obscurity does not work as well as open source does, which would declare Firefox the winner
[02:03] <alexandros> apokryphos: thanks, is there something wrong with the version of firefox?
[02:03] <jroes> np
[02:03] <apokryphos> alexandros: the one in the backports, yes; it's often broken.
[02:03] <alexandros> apokryphos: thanks again
[02:04] <apokryphos> np
[02:04] <Ravi`s> :)
[02:04] <Pluk> if youre not affraid is this:
[02:04] <Pluk> cd /var/cache/apt/archives
[02:04] <Pluk> sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite mozilla-firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb
[02:04] <Pluk> is=use*
[02:04] <blekos> MAY I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION PLS
[02:04] <nalioth> blekos: please
[02:04] <_jason> ok so that guy just had a problem with firefox 1.07... I just got prompted to update to 1.07, should I?
[02:04] <Dromedaris> Anyone succesfull runs nicotine?
[02:04] <blekos> the lucky number of the lottery will be 7,8,12,34,56
[02:04] <Xenguy> blekos: not if you keep that up
[02:04] <apokryphos> blekos: no shouting
[02:04] <tristanmike> alexandros, I will, been doing it all night, might as well not stop now
[02:04] <blekos> i do not know what i did
[02:05] <blekos> but it worked
[02:05] <Pluk> but --force-overwrite i not a thing you should use lightly
[02:05] <apokryphos> blekos: #ubuntu-offtopic for unrelated discussion
[02:05] <blekos> sorry for shouting
[02:05] <Dromedaris> Anyone succesfull runs nicotine?
[02:05] <nalioth> blekos: keep the caps to a grammatically correct usage
[02:05] <Xenguy> blekos: no, now many of us will /ignore you :P
[02:05] <blekos> i just wanted to share my excitement
[02:05] <blekos> :)
[02:05] <bonee> what happen to w32codecs
[02:05] <nalioth> ubotu tell Dromedaris about repeat
[02:05] <Xorlev_> My dependencies are all messed up, and updating them doesn't seem to help. Any advice?
[02:05] <blekos> pls pass the word not to use easyubuntu
[02:05] <bipolar> the confilict in breezy between xfonts-base and x-common is a known problem, right?
[02:05] <bonee> Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:05] <bonee> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:05] <bonee> is only available from another source
[02:05] <bonee> E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate
[02:05] <jroes> bonee: you're running amd64?
[02:06] <blekos> if someone else has the same problem what i did is
[02:06] <bonee> no
[02:06] <tristanmike> ubotu: tell bonee about w32codecs
[02:06] <blekos> remove all kde things...
[02:06] <nalioth> bonee: no pasting please, read the /topic
[02:06] <jroes> oh, then you just don't have all the sources
[02:06] <blekos> uninstall and install easyubuntu
[02:06] <apsync> what is the command to edit sound options?
[02:06] <nalioth> blekos: so you are on your way installing kubuntu-desktop now?
[02:06] <whyameye> Seveas: did you get my earlier messages about IE6 under Wine? BTW, it turns out that the Java runtime installs fine under Wine with a manual install...
[02:06] <rubem> hi there!
[02:06] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell bonee about w32codecs
[02:06] <rubem> hi Seveas
[02:06] <nalioth> blekos: throw the easybuntu out the window
[02:06] <blekos> go to repositories and remove all irrelavant links and left the ones for my version
[02:07] <blekos> and then install kde...
[02:07] <rubem> how do i install the mp3 codecs in ubuntu?
[02:07] <blekos> right away sir...
[02:07] <cesarin> Damn, cant find  any page in wiki about how to set the deadkeys or disabling them for the keyboard configuration
[02:07] <nalioth> blekos: kubuntu-desktop
[02:07] <blekos> it's gone...
[02:07] <nalioth> !tell rubem about restricted
[02:07] <tristanmike> ubotu: tell rubem about w32codecs
[02:07] <esac> still having random freezes on my breezy install
[02:07] <jroes> esac: I have a few random freezes myself, actually
[02:08] <jroes> esac: in hoary though
[02:08] <cesarin> nalioth, btw, I found interesting that Breezy 32 bits did detect my videocard and monitor out of the box
[02:08] <cesarin> but the 64 version didnt
[02:08] <jroes> anyone freeze when just doing something random like scrolling in firefox and clicking at the same time?
[02:08] <blekos> thank u gues for putting up with me...
[02:08] <apsync> what is the command to edit sound options?
[02:08] <Xorlev_> Also, with the X upgrade from repos, do they work okay?
[02:08] <blekos> do u have any suggestions for firewall?
[02:08] <apokryphos> blekos: yes, no need to consider one.
[02:08] <jorgp3> firestarter is a good firewall
[02:09] <blekos> hahah
[02:09] <blekos> lol
[02:09] <blekos> that's y i like linux
[02:09] <Xorlev_> blekos: Use iptables. Firestarter is a nice GUI frontend though
[02:09] <Xorlev_> iptables comes standard.
[02:09] <blekos> damn, it's 3 in the morning here...
[02:09] <Chii_Chan> Can I get some help? >.<  Ive managed to get ndiswrapper to allow my computer to detect the lan card.  It can also detect networks... but past then I am unable to actively use my lancard >.<
[02:10] <cesarin> Xorlev, : is Breezy vulnerable to internet atacks as for now?
[02:10] <nalioth> blekos: ubuntu (and most linux distros) have no need for 'firewalls', being open source, theres nothing calling the maker
[02:10] <blekos> do u use antvir?
[02:10] <Ravi`s> help download bootable for ubuntu
[02:10] <bonee> apokryphos: how do i install it
[02:10] <nalioth> cesarin: it is not
[02:10] <nalioth> blekos: no viruses known for linux
[02:10] <apokryphos> blekos: antivirus for what exactly?
[02:10] <cesarin> Ravi`s, : go to www.ubuntu.com and click on "DOWNLOAD"
[02:10] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell blekos about linuxvirus
[02:11] <apokryphos> hm, now what was that factoid..
[02:11] <Gobbla> there are viruses for linux too :)
[02:11] <Ravi`s> tx friend
[02:11] <alexandros> hey, if I try to remove firefox it tries to take ubuntu deskttop with it
[02:11] <blekos> sorry guys to interupt did u get a message for new kernel install??
[02:11] <cesarin> alexandros,  isnt it cute? very strong love & stuff :P
[02:11] <nalioth> blekos: the only reason a linux user would want to run an antivirus is to scan any files he wanted to send his windows-using-grandmother
[02:11] <nalioth> alexandros: that is fine
[02:11] <blekos> lol
[02:11] <blekos> :))
[02:11] <blekos> yes i know the % of viruses... etc
[02:12] <apokryphos> ubotu: linuxvirus is <reply> The short life and hard times of a Linux Virus http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[02:12] <ubotu> okay, apokryphos
[02:12] <blekos> just never used to run without any... :)
[02:12] <Pluk> ubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage.. i container thats lists all kinda packages thats needed to install the whole ubuntu thingy
[02:12] <cesarin> btw, anyone here knows the keys to add to xorg.conf , for adding "deadkeys" option for the keyboard?
[02:12] <Pluk> if you remove the container you wont loose all you programs
[02:12] <apsync> ubotu tell me about w32codecs
[02:13] <apokryphos> apsync: you can /msg too :)
[02:13] <apsync> oh ok :)
[02:13] <Chii_Chan> Anyone here know much about ndiswrapper?
[02:13] <jrattner1> How do i enable my SSH server
[02:14] <apsync> how can I get an account at seveas.ubuntulinux.nl ?
[02:14] <Xorlev> Question: Recently I've been getting dependency problems on all sorts of things...any way to fix these? Such as for libqt3-dev: Depends: libxft-dev but it is not going to be installed.
[02:14] !lilo:*! I'm heading out... power keeps going off and on and I want to save power for the phone
[02:14] <apokryphos> apsync: he's asleep now, so his server is probably down
[02:14] !lilo:*! Wish me lock.
[02:14] <apokryphos> apsync: but, go here: giannaros.org/tor/bt/
[02:14] !lilo:*! Erm, luck :)
[02:14] <apsync> ah
[02:14] <puff> Hm, my machine has started swapping like crazy.
[02:14] <alexandros> blekos: firestarter is easy to usse
[02:15] <puff> Wonde rwhat's sucking up all the ram.
[02:15] <blekos> i just installed it
[02:15] <bonee> ubotu tell me about w32codecs
[02:15] <apokryphos> bonee: you can /msg ubotu {factoid} too =)
[02:15] <apsync> bonee, you can msg too :D
[02:15] <apsync> :P
[02:15] <nalioth> jrattner1: install "openssh-server"
[02:15] <blekos> btw where can i have some instr. on installing the codecs for mp3 divx etc?
[02:16] <Xorlev> !tell blekos about w32codecs
[02:16] <apokryphos> !tell blekos about mp3
[02:16] <Xorlev> Question(again): Recently I've been getting dependency problems on all sorts of things...any way to fix these? Such as for libqt3-dev: Depends: libxft-dev but it is not going to be installed.
[02:17] <apokryphos> Xorlev: are you on breezy?
[02:17] <blekos> is there any background (short of wallpaper) that can show earth moving?
[02:18] <Xorlev> apokryphos: Hoary.
[02:18] <apokryphos> Xorlev: it's often good to get to the source of the problem; i.e. check libxft-dev and keep going
[02:18] <blekos> not a screen saver, something like active desktop
[02:18] <apokryphos> Xorlev: any other information? When did the problems start?
[02:18] <Xorlev> apokryphos: I tried it last week with another package set, it just led me in circles. ie: Dependency hell.
[02:18] <Xorlev> About two weeks ago.
[02:18] <apokryphos> Xorlev: I doubt it took you in circles; it likely gets down to one
[02:19] <MindChild> Can someone help me with remastering a livecd? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=68594
[02:19] <Xorlev> I'll try running down libqt3-dev and report back here.
[02:19] <picole> hi,
[02:20] <boxerboy29> ok im trying to install realplayer plug in for firefox i downloaded it and the file is executable but terminal tells me no file by that name
[02:20] <bonee> ubotu tell me about install
[02:20] <Xorlev> Ahh...thus the crux of the problem. Depends: libfontconfig1 (=2.2.3-4ubuntu7) but 2.3.2-1 is to be installed.
[02:20] <poningru> !install
[02:20] <ubotu> well, install is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[02:21] <WebLOCH> !tell WebLOCH about alsa-source
[02:21] <bonee> ubotu tell me about tar
[02:21] <apsync> how can I install .deb files again? something like 'dkpg'
[02:21] <poningru> bonee: did you not just see the format WebLOCH used?
[02:21] <NsOmNiAc> dpkg -i
[02:21] <poningru> unless I am being an ass
[02:21] <poningru> sorry
[02:21] <picole> i have just upgrade firefox from 1.0.6 to 1.0.7,but i find that my firefox can start,anybody can help me?
[02:21] <bonee> how do i install a tar file
[02:21] <NsOmNiAc> a tar file ?
[02:22] <NsOmNiAc> you don't install a tar file
[02:22] <bonee> tar.gz
[02:22] <WebLOCH> bonee use !command to issue commands to the bot
[02:22] <NsOmNiAc> tar -zxvf decompresses it
[02:22] <Xorlev> tar -zxf file.tar.gz - Extracts a tarred and gzipped archive.
[02:22] <boxerboy29> how do you install .bin files? apt-get install dont work
[02:22] <Chii_Chan> what exactly does the -zxf part do?
[02:22] <WebLOCH> like this     !tell bonee about install
[02:22] <esac> i am trying to do a "make gconfig" for the kernel and it complains that it needs gtk+ 2.0. i installed libgtk-2.0, libglade-2.0 and libglib-2.0 .. still complains it cant find gtk+2.0 .. any idea ?
[02:23] <bonee> i'll seee if that works
[02:23] <cesarin> esac,  sometimes it works to uninstall and reinstall it
[02:23] <Pluk> esac, you prlly need libglib2.0-dev
[02:23] <cesarin> it happened with some libraries when tried to compile the NTFS drive mounter for linux
[02:23] <ebdain> Just finished installing Hoary (AMD64) onto an Athlon 64 system.  Installed fine, boots fine, shows login fine.  I put in login info, get the login noise, tan/brown screen, and then nothing.  Keyboard is frozen, mouse works, no HD activity.
[02:24] <Xorlev> apokryphos:  Depends: libfontconfig1 (=2.2.3-4ubuntu7) but 2.3.2-1 is to be installed. It seems that 2.3.2-1 is installed, but it needs 2.2.3-4ubuntu7, and trying to force it down tries to remove bunches of packages including KDE.
[02:24] <blekos> cannot get thw w32codecs...
[02:24] <p_jnco> that sucks ebdain
[02:24] <blekos> i get a msg for being obsolete...
[02:24] <esac> Pluk: ill give it a shot
[02:24] <ebdain> Tell me about it.  Any thoughts on how to find out what's freezing it?
[02:24] <Ravi`s> how to setting ipconfig
[02:25] <apsync> where can I download gstreamer0.8-mad ?
[02:25] <cesarin> ebdain,  you sure there arent problems with the keyboard?
[02:25] <Ravi`s> help command for setting ipconfig system console
[02:25] <cesarin> ebdain: i've noticed quite a few errors in the 64 version that I didnt see in the 32 bit
[02:25] <apokryphos> Xorlev: why is 2.3 trying to be installed? What extra repositories do you have?
[02:25] <cesarin> like claiming that my "AGP APERTURE CONFCLITS WITH MY PCI MAPPING"
[02:25] <apokryphos> blekos: I gave you the factoid earlier
[02:25] <ebdain> the whole thing freezes.  I never see the desktop.  Just the brown/tan screen that shows right after login.  The mouse still works, but I don't get any further.
[02:26] <alexandros> hey, firefox is still not loading
[02:26] <Xorlev> apokryphos: backports, extras, and kubuntu updates.
[02:26] <Pluk> esac, also libglade2-dev and libgtk2.0-dev, but i thouglt liglib2.0-dev depended on those
[02:26] <esac> ok.
[02:26] <ebdain> cesarin - this is actually my second AMD64 build up.  The first one never gave me trouble (but the hardware was on loan)
[02:26] <apokryphos> Xorlev: disable backports and try again
[02:27] <Chii_Chan> bbl >.<
[02:27] <Xorlev> apokryphos: Is there a way to force 2.2.3 without removing KDE?
[02:27] <cesarin> ebdain, : no idea, maybe some diferent hardware on it? like a extrange chipset that made the linux go "BURP" ?
[02:27] <apokryphos> Xorlev: you don't want to force, ideally; will likely break apt, if it installs
[02:27] <Xenguy> Hi - I want to run a 1-line command after every time this laptop boots.  Is /etc/init.d/skeleton the best place to start?
[02:27] <ebdain> cesarin - that's what I'm wanting to figure out.  This AMD system is completely different from the first one, but it all installed and booted fine.  Something during Gnome loading is bombing.
[02:27] <esac> pluk: thanks, installing all of those worked
[02:28] <Ravi`s> help command to console for setting ipconfig
[02:28] <ebdain> but I don't know how to find out *what* is bombing.
[02:28] <Pluk> yw esac
[02:28] <Xorlev> apokryphos: Same thing
[02:29] <cesarin> so it just bugs inside gnome?
[02:29] <alexandros> so there is no more backport extras?
[02:29] <apostolia> spera
[02:29] <ebdain> Seems like it.  I can put in the login info, so X is loading ok.  Just after that, I get the Ubuntu login music/noise and then it just stops.
[02:29] <Xorlev> apokryphos: Trying to install libqt3-mt-dev gets this: Depends: libqt3c102-mt (=3:3.3.3-7ubuntu3) but 3:3.3.4-3 is to be installed. And the other one about libxft-dev.
[02:29] <nalioth> alexandros: breezy is not complete. backports depend on the current version being finalized
[02:30] <apokryphos> Xorlev: quite a pickle
[02:30] <cesarin> nalioth, : you remember what was that program to access and mount NTFS volumes in ubuntu ?
[02:30] <Xorlev> apokryphos: Indeed.
[02:30] <nalioth> !tell cesarin about ntfs
[02:30] <bonee> how do i install a .deb
[02:30] <Xorlev> sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[02:31] <cesarin> nalioth, thanks again!
[02:31] <_blake> question... would it be possible to install breezy and not have to reinstall all of my rediculous drivers (ie. video card, wireless drivers, etc? ))
[02:31] <Xorlev> apokryphos: Any ideas how to fix it? Or will I have to reinstall my entire system? Or will upping to breezy help?
[02:31] <apokryphos> Xorlev: it's essentially down to a couple of trouble-makers (packages), it's fixable, but probably not that easy
[02:31] <alexandros> I am not on breezy I am hoary
[02:32] <alexandros> I am not on breezy I am on hoary
[02:32] <apokryphos> Xorlev: no point reinstalling your entire system; breezy is just around the corner
[02:32] <Xorlev> apokryphos: So installing breezy should help if not fix it completely since its replacing pretty much everything?
[02:32] <tiglionabbit> hi
[02:32] <cesarin> apokryphos, actual users of breezy will have to just install updates to get to the "release version" ? or they do have to reinstall everything again?
[02:33] <apokryphos> Xorlev: quite sure it would fix the problem, yes.
[02:33] <Xorlev> apokryphos: I can bide my time then.
[02:33] <tiglionabbit> when can I start ordering CDs to get the official Breezy release?
[02:33] <apokryphos> cesarin: not sure I understand the question
[02:33] <nalioth> cesarin: apt-get is designed to keep you up to date
[02:33] <cesarin> apokryphos, : I mean that I have breezy atm.. the release candidate...
[02:33] <apokryphos> cesarin: doing an update is like doing a reinstall of a package -- you install different .debs
[02:33] <apokryphos> cesarin: ok..
[02:33] <cesarin> does that mean I have to install everything from scratch?
[02:33] <cesarin> Ie, when the REAL breezy comes out
[02:33] <nalioth> cesarin: i've had warty on this particular machine and havent used a cd since (for an install)
[02:33] <cesarin> but I think nalioth just answered
[02:34] <apokryphos> Xorlev: I'd tell you to update right now, but you might have X problems (which people lately are complaining about), and can be tricky situation if you don't know exactly what to do
[02:34] <nalioth> cesarin: apt-get is a great and powerful friend
[02:34] <cesarin> nalioth, Ic, thank you, so I supose everything is done by the synapsis
[02:34] <punkrockmcduck> How do I enable printer sharing in ubuntu?
[02:34] <cesarin> or.. the apt-get
[02:34] <apokryphos> cesarin: yes, you just dist-upgrade to it
[02:34] <blekos> apokryfos what u gave me returns-following the instr. of the link-package w32 codecs are not available
[02:34] <punkrockmcduck> I have files shared through samba with my windows machine but I want it to also be able to use the printer, but it gets access denied when i try to use it.
[02:34] <apokryphos> cesarin: synaptic can do it too, yes.
[02:34] <cesarin> 15 secs :D
[02:34] <nightair> can I safely remove *.deb in /var/cache/apt/archives ?
[02:35] <cesarin> nalioth,  ty again
[02:35] <mrchicago> hey i got another program to work
[02:35] <nalioth> nightair: you can, but not recommended
[02:35] <Pluk> nightair, sudo apt-get clean will do that for you
[02:35] <nalioth> nightair: use the 'clean' option with apt-get
[02:35] <Pluk> :)
[02:35] <nightair> okok thanks
[02:36] <_jason> i just updated and now my firefox is broken, can anyone help?
[02:36] <nightair> nice. it worked; all clean now :)
[02:37] <tiglionabbit> hey guys, are they using the disc art some of the artists made?
[02:37] <alexandros> have anyone had sucess installing realplayer using apt-get?
[02:37] <Xenguy> nightair: 'apt-get autoclean' can be useful
[02:37] <alexandros> realplayer 10 that is
[02:37] <apokryphos> alexandros: it's not in the repositories
[02:38] <apokryphos> taken out of hoary-extras, at least (which is where it was)
[02:38] <apokryphos> might be some third-party repo with it somewhere, but doubtful
[02:38] <punkrockmcduck> anybody know what I have to do to allow my printer to be shared? file sharing works but no printer.
[02:39] <WebLOCH> awesome it works again
[02:39] <WebLOCH> ir woooorks
[02:39] <tiglionabbit> does anyone know about the ubuntu cover art?
[02:39] <tiglionabbit> for breezy I mean
[02:39] <tiglionabbit> I'm curious
[02:39] <alexandros> apokryphos: I know that but I can't find realplayer 8 bin to use what is in the repositories.
[02:39] <tiglionabbit> I plan on handing some of these CDs out.  I want to know what they'll look like
[02:39] <apokryphos> alexandros: realplayer 8 is in multiverse
[02:40] <picole> _jason,me too ,i have just do what you do ,and the result is just the same
[02:40] <nightair> x-common update for Breezy still conflicting with another fonts package right?
[02:41] <alexandros> apokryphos: is that the one that requires you to have the bin file to install?
[02:41] <apokryphos> alexandros: nope
[02:41] <charm__> nightair: yup
[02:41] <_jason> picole i just solved it with kairu's help
[02:41] <_jason> can i pm you?
[02:41] <apokryphos> alexandros: it's in the repositories; make sure you have multiverse and you can get realplayer 8 (at least)
[02:41] <nightair> charm__, ok thanks
[02:41] <picole> can you tell me how to sovle
[02:41] <picole> thanks
[02:43] <alexandros> apokryphos: I do have it but it is not listed there
[02:43] <MindChild> Can someone help me with remastering a livecd? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=68594
[02:44] <apokryphos> alexandros: please pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list then
[02:44] <kairu0> is there a "data on the fly" music burning app for gnome yet? i really dont want to install k3m...
[02:44] <nightair> redundant loading of some kernel modules what's a good way to track that down? as in I flip to Ctrl-Alt-F1 and I see some insmods of modules that are already loaded
[02:45] <jroes> wow
[02:45] <MindChild> Jesus christ ... is insmod still used?
[02:45] <nalioth> kairu0: in breezy will be serpentine
[02:45] <psusi> has anyone successfully used gparted to resize an ntfs partition?  it doesn't seem to work in the breezy preview... click apply and nothing happens
[02:45] <alexandros> apokryphos: pastebin?
[02:45] <cesarin> I wonder why it keeps refusing to install x-common on breezy :P
[02:45] <kairu0> nalioth, serpentine can do that in breezy perview?
[02:45] <jroes> I installed ubuntu one time on this box, and grub wouldn't start.  then I reinstalled all over again with LILO, and it just says "L 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99"
[02:46] <cesarin> psusi, I prefered to use partition magic :P
[02:46] <MindChild> jroes: Lilo didnt install
[02:46] <apokryphos> alexandros: check the link ubotu just gave you
[02:46] <_jason> apokryphos, can i pm you
[02:46] <apokryphos> sure
[02:46] <psusi> 1) you have to pay for that and 2) in years past, the 3 times I or someone I know who tried to use it, got their partition trashed
[02:46] <jroes> MindChild: but.... I ran the LILO installer... ?
[02:46] <misfit_toy> so is x-common still borked if I do the latest update?
[02:46] <MindChild> but... it didt work
[02:46] <cesarin> psusi:you actually want to pay? :P
[02:47] <jroes> hmm, as this is the second failure, is there something I should do to try to check my drives and fix any errors if possible?
[02:47] <nalioth> kairu0: my serpentine segmentation faults when i try to run it
[02:47] <nalioth> kairu0: ymmv
[02:47] <psusi> of course not... which is why I'm not using it
[02:47] <alexandros> do it now
[02:47] <psusi> well, and more importantly, I don't trust it to not fuck up
[02:47] <cesarin> and pmagic never failed me so far :P
[02:47] <MindChild> jroes: sometimes lilo is a whore... thats why most distos have a manual and an auto isntall
[02:48] <jroes> hrmph
[02:48] <jroes> well I think maybe this might be something
[02:48] <jroes> it has a really old shitty trident 4mb video card
[02:48] <kairu0> nalioth, ok
[02:48] <jroes> and when I run the ubuntu installer, it crashes on the first attempt for a second - something about framebuffer unsupported
[02:49] <jroes> and then it blinks back in again and displays properly
[02:49] <nightair> misfit_toy, they've told me it's still borked
[02:49] <misfit_toy> nightair, thanks
[02:49] <MindChild> jroes: thats not your issue
[02:49] <jroes> it flashes only for a brief moment so I can't be exactly sure of what it says
[02:49] <jroes> hmm.  well then I'm thinking there is some type of hardware issue - I just don't know what I should run/do to attempt to troubleshoot it
[02:49] <nightair> MindChild, what's replacement for insmod?
[02:49] <psusi> modprobe
[02:49] <MindChild> jroes: Your card isnt specifically supported by the framebuffer driver (old/no VESA), so it uses VGA
[02:49] <jroes> like maybe just some partition table corruption or something that can be taken care of with something nice
[02:50] <MindChild> nightair: modprobe... insmod is like... 2.0 kernel days
[02:50] <nightair> psusi, ah indeed, of course. I knew that :)
[02:50] <alexandros> what to do after I paste it?
[02:50] <MindChild> jroes: your system is still there... just get lilo working
[02:51] <nightair> Breezy is somewhere calling some insmods of some modules then it reports back already loaded. any advice on tracking that down
[02:51] <jroes> hrmph.  any ideas?  just try installing it again?
[02:51] <benkong2> apokryphos; I am doing a breezy upgrade on my amd k8 machine get an error "/var/cache/apt/archives/php-html-template-it_1.10-3_all.deb E: sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code(1)" What does it all mean? Won't go past this error lacks 1234 files for install/upgrade.
[02:51] <MindChild> jroes: sure
[02:51] <jroes> I don't know, it just seems like if grub fails, and lilo fails, there's some hardware issue, but I'll try again if you think that might help
[02:51] <MindChild> jroes: maybe a bad block on your MBR
[02:51] <jroes> I wasn't able to figure out how to run it by itself, something about needing to set the /target, and it won't let me run through the partition table edit stuff without formatting
[02:51] <apokryphos> benkong2: did you apt-get update first?
[02:52] <benkong2> apokryphos; yes followed the wiki docs exactly
[02:52] <apokryphos> benkong2: any errors in apt-get update?
[02:53] <benkong2> apokryphos; none
[02:53] <_n00blar_> Just an FYI for those with ATI cards that are running Breezy and have gotten the latest updates...those X patches overwrite libGL.so file. Easy fix..reinstall the ATI drivers to fix the problem.
[02:54] <apokryphos> benkong2: and this error is on dist-upgrade? Could you pastebin a bit more of that?
[02:54] <cesarin> _n00blar_,  and how do you reinstall them?
[02:54] <alexandros> apokryphos: what to do after I paste it?
[02:54] <apokryphos> benkong2: also, did you check that you had ubuntu-desktop before you did the dist-upgrade?
[02:54] <apokryphos> alexandros: produce the link in here
[02:54] <benkong2> apokryphos; I did not check ubuntu-desktop prior to dist-upgrade
[02:54] <apokryphos> benkong2: that's a necessity, really
[02:54] <_n00blar_> cesarin, use Synaptic to re-install xorg-driver-fglrx package
[02:55] <nightair> "Where Do you Want to Go Today?" :S
[02:55] <benkong2> ok let me do that first
[02:55] <cesarin> thanks
[02:55] <apokryphos> benkong2: can cause serious problems on your system if it's not done; the dist-upgrade depends on the metapackage to have a smooth upgrade
[02:55] <apokryphos> (i.e. what's obsolete, what's new etc)
[02:55] <benkong2> can I just walk back through the steps again.
[02:55] <apokryphos> that's all sorted through the metapack, generally
[02:55] <apokryphos> benkong2: did it start installing things?
[02:55] <apokryphos> if so, then probably not
[02:56] <benkong2> yes
[02:56] <apokryphos> benkong2: you sure you don't have it? dpkg -l|grep ubuntu-desktop  ...gives?
[02:56] <benkong2> n
[02:56] <xxxxx>  /server irc.reventaweb.com
[02:56] <xxxxx> /server irc.reventaweb.com
[02:56] <xxxxx> =/
[02:56] <benkong2> apokryphos;  hold on
[02:57] <benkong2> apokryphos; returns nothing
[02:57] <apokryphos> ok, you don't then
[02:57] <benkong2> apokryphos; gheech hope this doesn't make me have to reinstall
[02:58] <apokryphos> benkong2: maybe have a whack at trying to install ubuntu-desktop now
[02:58] <benkong2> apokryphos; ok working....
[02:59] <cesarin> brb
[02:59] <cesarin> restarting
[02:59] <dabaR> Why is my firefox not working? /topic :)
[02:59] <dabaR> I am just joking...I dont use firefox, if you did not get that.
[02:59] <apokryphos> dabaR: you'd be surprised by how many have asked so far :P
[02:59] <dabaR> aha, ok.
[03:00] <nightair> been hearing a lot of people with firefox issues I guess after the 1.0.7 update is that just something with Hoary because 107 update went smoothly on Breezy for me
[03:00] <kairu0> dabaR, you must use IE 3.0
[03:00] <dabaR> kairu0: the debian sensible browser.
[03:00] <apokryphos> nightair: it's because of backports
[03:00] <kairu0> dabaR, sensible browser? hmm
[03:00] <test34> kairu0, a web page on a CD ask me to roll back to netscape 4.0
[03:01] <kairu0> lol
[03:01] <dabaR> kairu0: thats a fancy name for epiphany afaik.
[03:01] <durt> opera is now free yay!
[03:01] <test34> (from a book bought this year)
[03:01] <kairu0> anyone got shockwave to work in any browser?
[03:01] <kairu0> durt, using it right now!
[03:01] <nightair> apokryphos, ah so like some people were trying to run 107 early before the official ubuntu 107
[03:01] <apokryphos> durt: hopefully open too, in the future :). A stretch, but who knows.
[03:01] <dabaR> durt, do you have a article about that?
[03:01] <nalioth> kairu0: i use galeon. i dont understand the fixation on firefox
[03:02] <durt> im sure you can find an article somewhere dabar
[03:02] <nightair> firefox rocks my body
[03:02] <alexandros> apokryphos: here is the link
[03:02] <apokryphos> nightair: yes; it's of course do-able, it's just that backports is often broken with FF packages
[03:02] <dabaR> durt: and this is something new?
[03:02] <alexandros> apokryphos: here is the link http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2473
[03:02] <apokryphos> alexandros: ok; sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install realplayer
[03:02] <durt> dabar, i found out yesterday, i think it happened within the past couple of days
[03:02] <kairu0> dabaR, http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20050920/tc_afp/norwayinternetsoftware
[03:03] <apokryphos> alexandros: you didn't have to put a screenshot :)
[03:04] <apokryphos> alexandros: and, er, synaptic shows it there. Not sure I understand the problem -- it's there.
[03:04] <dabaR> I could try using opera for a little. kairu0, thanks.
[03:04] <apokryphos> dabaR: Opera is indeed great
[03:04] <apokryphos> it's definitely the browser with the most, "ooo, that's convenient" isms
[03:04] <kairu0> dabaR, its pretty good!
[03:05] <MindChild> opera is ass
[03:05] <alexandros> apokryphos: look at the description
[03:05] <alexandros> apokryphos: in the picture
[03:05] <apokryphos> hah
[03:05] <nightair> Opera, I read their free version just got rid of ads
[03:05] <dabaR> does it work with keywords in the address bar?
[03:05] <apokryphos> alexandros: pretty annoying that they'd have the pack there. Weird.
[03:05] <apokryphos> nightair: correct
[03:06] <durt> dabar: "keywords"?
[03:06] <Earthen> I just installed the ATI fglrx-control panel how do I run it? anybody
[03:06] <MindChild> try 'sudo chmod -R 000 /'
[03:06] <kairu0> dabaR, download the debian sid version if you get it. the ubuntu version is broken on breezy
[03:06] <dabaR> durt: like, I type in ubuntu, and it seraches the web using google for that.
[03:06] <dabaR> kairu0: I use hoary:P off course.
[03:06] <durt> dabar, yeah it has that
[03:06] <alexandros> apokryphos: do you have any suggestions?
[03:06] <Entranced> Hello
[03:06] <test34> in breezy, if you drag a window in the workspaces switcher to the middle of 2 workspaces, it disapear from the workspaces switcher
[03:07] <test34> is that a bug
[03:07] <Entranced> I just ran apt dist-upgrade and I'm getting this error.. E: /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.08_all.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/X11/fonts', which is also in package xfonts-bas
[03:07] <cesarin> Entranced,  I'm getting the same too
[03:07] <Entranced> x-common fails
[03:07] <poweruser> Hello I'm having problems trying to install drivers for my Matrox g200. Anybody care to help?
[03:08] <nightair> test34, that sounds interesting. I'm too scared to try it here though
[03:08] <durt> kairu0, the ubuntu version works, but it says it wants libqt3c102-mt. are you saying the debian version works without this error?
[03:08] <test34> entranced, I had the same problem, you need to tell apt to overwrite
[03:08] <_n00blar_> Entranced, the forums tell you how to fix it
[03:08] <dabaR> when it crashes, does opera ask you to restore tabs once you restart it?
[03:08] <Entranced> kew
[03:08] <dabaR> For example, When you log out instead of closing it.
[03:08] <test34> nightair, it dont disapear from the desktop, just from the workspace switcher
[03:08] <alexandros> apokryphos: I am still getting the samw thing thru apt-get
[03:08] <kairu0> durt, yes. the debian version is satisfied with libqt3-mt (which is in the breezy repositories)
[03:08] <_n00blar_> Entranced, just do a search for x-common in the forums
[03:08] <Entranced> _n00blar_, which forums ?
[03:08] <nightair> test34, you mean like the little thumbnails it shows in the switcher?
[03:08] <durt> kairu0 thanks
[03:09] <test34> nightair, yes
[03:09] <apokryphos> MindChild: don't give silly advice please
[03:09] <apokryphos> alexandros: yes, it's a dummy package
[03:09] <poweruser> Pretty please? :)
[03:09] <_n00blar_> Entranced, go here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=68500&highlight=x-common
[03:09] <nightair> test34, oh I dunno. I changed my switcher to show "1,2,3,4" instead of thumbnails. but that disappearance thing does sound troublesome. maybe it's a gnome bug
[03:10] <Entranced> _n00blar_, Sweet ..thnx
[03:10] <benkong2> apokryphos; ubuntu-desktop went off without errors? try the apt-get dist-upgrade now?
[03:10] <apokryphos> benkong2: cool! Yes
[03:10] <test34> nightair, if you drop the thumbnail in the middle of 2 workspace, it disapear
[03:10] <poweruser> Anyway when I'm trying to install the driver using sh install.sh being root it prompts me with the following
[03:10] <poweruser> Currently installed driver is the same as the installer file.
[03:10] <poweruser> X server driver not installed.
[03:10] <poweruser> Currently installed file is the same as the installer file.
[03:10] <poweruser> mga_hal_drv.o is not installed.
[03:10] <benkong2> apokryphos; cool upgrading....//:-)
[03:10] <alexandros> apokryphos: so there is no hope of getting a deb package to install real player?
[03:10] <nalioth> poweruser: do not paste
[03:11] <Gobbla> paste.ubuntulinux.nl use that poweruser
[03:11] <poweruser> meh
[03:11] <poweruser> :P
[03:11] <poweruser> I need help
[03:11] <apokryphos> alexandros: not really
[03:11] <apokryphos> poweruser: so ask, but don't flood
[03:11] <toolbox> ubuntu!
[03:11] <nightair> test34, maybe ask in gnome channel too. see if it's distro specific or maybe anyone with gnome 2.12 suffers from it too
[03:11] <fmasi> Hi is ther enny profile manager i could use to swith network configurations ?
[03:12] <alexandros> I tried downloading the rpm and converting it to deb but that did not work!
[03:12] <toolbox> here we are on Friday night dudes.
[03:12] <toolbox> :-)
[03:12] <Gobbla> saturday here..
[03:12] <Entranced> _n00blar_,  great fix...
[03:13] <nightair> test34, maybe info for finding out at  http://gnomesupport.org/wiki/index.php/IrcChannels
[03:13] <toolbox> Gobbla: your ok then :-)
[03:13] <toolbox> you are
[03:13] <Gobbla> :)
[03:13] <toolbox> over here, no life at all
[03:13] <Gobbla> didnt do shit friday either so :)
[03:13] <Entranced> cesarin, try this to fix the problem...It worked for me: sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.08_all.deb
[03:13] <alexandros> anyone had success installing realplayer from a deb package?
[03:13] <toolbox> hehe
[03:13] <Gobbla> realplayer... plz
[03:14] <alexandros> apokryphos: thanks for your help
[03:14] <test34> nightair,  I will check
[03:15] <nightair> alexandros, I haven't tried debs for Real I installed from the real.com linux installer
[03:15] <cesarin> well I did what entrance told me and its fixed :>
[03:15] <cesarin> btw, whats the command to see the kernel's version?
[03:15] <test34> entranced, Sep 23 16:34:59 GoRoDeK	test34,  cd /var/cache/apt/archives/ and next do  dpkg -i --force overwrite x-common_1.08_all.deb
[03:16] <nightair> cesarin, uname
[03:16] <test34> entranced, Sep 23 16:34:59 GoRoDeK	test34,  cd /var/cache/apt/archives/ and next do  dpkg -i --force overwrite x-common_1.08_all.deb
[03:16] <cesarin> thx
[03:16] <cesarin> test34,  that works to fix the x-common problem
[03:16] <benkong2> apokryphos; rats here is the pastebin got the same error. http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2475
[03:16] <Entranced> yup
[03:16] <nightair> cesarin, uname -a :p
[03:16] <cesarin> but you have to download the  x-common file :o
[03:16] <cesarin> thx nightair
[03:16] <alexandros> nightair: does that method put an entry in the installed programs database?
[03:16] <cesarin> ok, got the 686 version installed :>
[03:16] <test34> cesarin, if you get the error, you probably have the file
[03:16] <dr34mc0d3r> i currently have a ATI Rage Pro 128 (pci) - I just got an nvidia mx400 64meg AGP x4 - I install the hardware and boot up - i get a nasty blue screen err0r saying that X-Server cant start and to fix the problem and reboot....is hardware detection in ubuntu not so good? What can i do to use my nvidia card??
[03:17] <cesarin> test34, well yes, fixed already :P
[03:17] <apokryphos> benkong2: looks like a problem with that specific package. Try removing it [temporarily] 
[03:17] <benkong2> apokryphos; k
[03:18] <apokryphos> benkong2: heh, I missed the first part
[03:18] <nightair> alexandros, as far is will apt / synaptic see Real as being installed? not sure. probably not..not sure about the installed database though or where to check. it at least did put the icon in gnome menu though :-/
[03:18] <apokryphos> benkong2: it's the only package having problems... you have breezy :)
[03:18] <kritty> Hey all.... I'm getting an error about xfonts not being able to update.... any ideas?
[03:18] <benkong2> yes the only package
[03:18] <alexandros> nightair: ok thanks
[03:19] <bonee> how do i read mail in ubuntu
[03:19] <Entranced> kritty, is it the x-common error ?
[03:19] <bonee> it say i got mail
[03:19] <bonee> but where
[03:19] <toxicle> boman_: use mutt
[03:19] <toxicle> bonee: use mutt
[03:19] <jroes> hm
[03:19] <dr34mc0d3r> bonee - go to a terminal window and try "mail"
[03:19] <jroes> does e2fsck -c -v -p /dev/hda1   check the MBR?
[03:20] <cesarin> btw, anyone knows in what multiverse address appears the Sun's java or the blackdowns?s
[03:20] <cesarin> and yes, I already cheked the Wiki's java page :P
[03:20] <cesarin> so dont toss me ubotu :P
[03:20] <toxicle> is there a ncurses way of enabling/disabling services?
[03:20] <nightair> alexandros, I didn't see any Real package in Breezy official repositories and I'm not using any backports (yet) so I just used the real.com installer. I dunno if that was the ideal move though. the player works at least.
[03:21] <nalioth> cesarin: do you want java?
[03:21] <test34> cesarin, JRE ?
[03:21] <cesarin> nalioth,  just for firefox :O
[03:21] <nalioth> cesarin: hoary or breezy?
[03:21] <cesarin> basic java console
[03:21] <cesarin> breezy, 32 bit 686
[03:21] <cesarin> nalioth, trashed the 64 bit version, :P
[03:22] <test34> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[03:22] <cesarin> test34,  you didnt read what I wrote earlier, did you? :P
[03:22] <toxicle> noli: i'm on hoary ... which java package should i install for firefox?
[03:23] <apokryphos> cesarin: http://giannaros.org/tor/bt
[03:23] <test34> cesarin, where did you see ubotu
[03:23] <elad`> My pointer is really slow, and setting the sensitivity to maximum in Preferences -> Mouse doesn't help. Ideas?
[03:23] <alexandros> nightair: do you know how to uninstall it when the time comes to upgrade?
[03:23] <chizang> howdy, i'm having some problems with rhythmbox not recognizing mp3s. is this the appropriate channel or should i go poking about in #gnome?
[03:23] <apokryphos> !mp3
[03:24] <ubotu> from memory, mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[03:24] <toxicle> chi, i got the same problem with ya
[03:24] <apokryphos> chizang: this is the apropriate place; check that provided link.
[03:24] <nightair> alexandros, good question. I had wondered that too. I just assumed there's some uninstall flag to add from commandline but I'll try to verify for us.
[03:24] <cesarin> test34, : ubotu trows you to wiki's
[03:24] <kairu0> yeah that link will definitely help you
[03:24] <fossa> i am trying to compile something but ./configure says 'checking for dcc... no'   but synaptic shows gcc IS installed  ?
[03:24] <test34> cesarin, it says to build your own java
[03:24] <nalioth> fossa: install "build-essential"
[03:24] <apokryphos> fossa: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[03:25] <toxicle> one question guys ... why does my XMMS hang when i try to play a song?
[03:25] <toxicle> !xmms
[03:25] <ubotu> from memory, xmms is to get xmms to work in Ubuntu Hoary, set the output plugin to eSound (right-click on the XMMS window, then choose Options -> Preferences)
[03:25] <chizang> apokryphos: thx for the pointer, i'll check it out.
[03:25] <cesarin> apokryphos,  thanks man, downloading from there
[03:25] <fossa> ok thanks a bunch. for some reason when i installed ubuntu then gcc on my laptop, it worked fine.
[03:26] <apokryphos> np
[03:26] <dabaR> toxicle: congratulations on answering your own question within seconds.
[03:26] <red_blood> !ubuntu
[03:26] <ubotu> ubuntu is, like, totally, an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'. see !awards
[03:26] <toxicle> dabaR: thanks :)
[03:26] <alexandros> nightair: ok, thanks I will here waiting
[03:26] <jroes> wow.
[03:26] <jroes> I experienced a lilo error code that isn't even listed in the user docs
[03:26] <red_blood> !awards
[03:26] <ubotu> [awards]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubunturocks
[03:26] <red_blood> !gaim
[03:26] <ubotu> rumour has it, gaim is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GaimHowto/
[03:27] <dabaR> red_blood: they are arsTechnica awards.
[03:27] <red_blood> !kde
[03:27] <ubotu> A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hoary/
[03:27] <dabaR> !+msg the bot
[03:27] <ubotu> rumour has it, msg the bot is please message the bot in private, he accepts private messages from registered nicknames(/msg nickserv help register). In order for everyone to get better help, do not clutter the channel with many !commands, please. /msg ubotu keyword, or especially if you do not know whether some factoid exists.
[03:27] <test34> !wine
[03:27] <cesarin> wondering if there is a trillian-like  gaim.. I dont like giam at all, looks like aMSN copy
[03:27] <apokryphos> Guys, /msg to investigate with the bot
[03:28] <apokryphos> cesarin: there's Kopete
[03:28] <dabaR> cesarin: maybe you can skin gaim.
[03:28] <dabaR> cesarin: well, mayybe not too, but...
[03:29] <cesarin> dabar: so gaim is skinneable?
[03:29] <test34> how can you change the default icon size ?
[03:29] <test34> (on desktop)
[03:29] <jroes> wah
[03:29] <cesarin> apokryphos, : and you think kopete is .. hmm.. stable?
[03:29] <jroes> lilo-installer is in a deb
[03:29] <jroes> and I can't install a deb from that command line can I
[03:29] <dabaR> cesarin: no, not really.
[03:30] <apokryphos> cesarin: entirely stable, of course.
[03:30] <cesarin> apok: thanks, might take a look at it :>
[03:30] <dabaR> jroes: you are playing withy fire, it seems. dunno how to fix it, tho.
[03:30] <bipolar> can I force install x-common over xfonts-common to get the updater to quit annoying me?
[03:30] <kairu0> what is the date for the breezy release?
[03:30] <dr34mc0d3r> jroes - sudo dpkg -i package_file.deb
[03:31] <dabaR> night apokryphos.
[03:31] <kairu0> chizang, nice use of "hose"
[03:31] <dabaR> kairu0: the 13th is what keeps being repeated.
[03:31] <dr34mc0d3r> jroes - greate resource - http://ubuntuguide.org/
[03:31] <nalioth> dr34mc0d3r: please dont advise ubuntuguide
[03:31] <cesarin> dabaR,  I know but about TAB, but sometimes it has too many nicknames for x-chat
[03:32] <cesarin> and it just puts a list of nicknames
[03:32] <dr34mc0d3r> :( - ok
[03:32] <nalioth> cesarin: use irssi
[03:32] <kairu0> dabaR, thnkx
[03:32] <cesarin> nalioth, : im on X
[03:32] <digitize> yeah even though irssi is a cmd line client
[03:32] <cesarin> theres a irssi version for X?
[03:32] <digitize> it's very easy and very nice to us
[03:32] <nalioth> cesarin: AND?
[03:32] <jroes> nalioth: what's wrong with ubuntuguide?
[03:32] <digitize> cesarin: it's cmd line
[03:32] <digitize> open up a terminal
[03:32] <cesarin> nalioth, ill stay with this ;)
[03:32] <dabaR> cesarin: add another letter, then try again.
[03:33] <digitize> cesarin: that's not a wise move
[03:33] <digitize> irssi is 10000x better
[03:33] <test34> !ubuntuguide
[03:33] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is, like, totally, out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[03:33] <cesarin> digitize, not dumb, used irssi because x-chat text was crap :P
[03:33] <cesarin> and when X was down
[03:33] <digitize> and hell, it's easier to move around windows
[03:33] <jroes> !faq
[03:33] <ubotu> [faq]  The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy)
[03:33] <digitize> cesarin: and you don't like it?
[03:33] <dr34mc0d3r> ahhh - ok....
[03:33] <dabaR> later
[03:33] <cesarin> digitize, just feel like in the old MSDOS days
[03:34] <jroes> ah, I used !faq in privmsg by accident
[03:34] <cesarin> and it makes me shiver ;)
[03:34] <benkong2> what would cause my breezy upgrade not to put the entries in /boot/grub/menu.list file it rebooted fine it's just into the old kernel so no new boot screen etc.
[03:34] <dabaR> nalioth: get out of here...
[03:34] <jroes> but apparently you can't use the command char in msg
[03:34] <digitize> eh, all right
[03:34] <cesarin> btw, .deb packages can easily be installed with pkg right?
[03:35] <digitize> yes, for the most part they should be compliant
[03:35] <cesarin> dpkg -i <name of package> right?
[03:35] <digitize> yes
[03:35] <dabaR> cesarin: you should install almost e4verything using the apt package management system, from the oficial repos.
[03:35] <dabaR> otherwise you are on thin ice.
[03:35] <cesarin> dabaR,  triying to install "FLASH" and "JAVA"
[03:35] <chizang> cesarin: i would do a dpkg -e first to see what the control scripts will do
[03:35] <cesarin> and they dont seem to appear in the synap's default 9 repositories
[03:36] <dabaR> flash is in apt. java is not, but the debs from that torrent are supposedly safe. I would not even trust that. you can make your own debs with the official .bin from sun.
[03:36] <gt500> Does anybody know why my video games, such as TuxRacer are running incredibly slow?
[03:36] <cesarin> chizang, : the w32 codecs .deb package appears to do nothing
[03:37] <MaDsKiLLz> gt500, have glx enabled
[03:37] <MaDsKiLLz> ?
[03:37] <dabaR> gt500: yes, you dont have a graphics card like me.
[03:37] <nightair> alexandros, I really don't know for certain. me personally when the time comes I will probably just remove the program folders manually or for update I might just reinstall over top. it may find itself and update. sorry I can't say for sure
[03:37] <gt500> MaDsKiLLz: Where is that?
[03:37] <dr34mc0d3r> i currently have a ATI Rage Pro 128 (pci) - I just got an nvidia mx400 64meg AGP x4 - I install the hardware and boot up - i get a nasty blue screen err0r saying that X-Server cant start and to fix the problem and reboot....is hardware detection in ubuntu not so good? What can i do to use my nvidia card??
[03:37] <MaDsKiLLz> anyone if breezy has debug symbols enabled or something
[03:37] <nalioth> cesarin: open a terminal and type "ls /usr/local/lib/codecs/
[03:37] <chizang> cesarin: they get extracted to a DEBIAN/ directory (just in case you weren't looking in the right place)
[03:37] <nightair> alexandros, I did search on google for answers but nothing too clear.
[03:37] <MaDsKiLLz> i cant figure out why my pc is running so much slower now that i've upgraded
[03:37] <cesarin> nalioth,  going...
[03:37] <dr34mc0d3r> im also experiancing slow video response
[03:37] <cesarin> chizang,  gotta check that too
[03:38] <alexandros> nightair: I have been searching the web it sems that alot of people are asking this question to which there seems to be no answer
[03:38] <cesarin> nalioth, : empty directory or missing
[03:38] <gt500> MaDsKiLLz do you know where that is??
[03:38] <ardchoille> Hi. is 5.10 (breezy) a development version? Should I wait for a more stable version before downloading?
[03:39] <nalioth> cesarin: get your w32codecs here giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/
[03:39] <gt500> MaDsKiLLz please help
[03:39] <cesarin> nalioth, I just downloaded them via torrent
[03:39] <nalioth> cesarin: sorry not there http://giannaros.org/tor/bt/
[03:39] <cesarin> apok got me a link for a bitorrent site
[03:39] <kairu0> yeah! thank god for dri.freedesktop.org! my opengl looks nice again!
[03:40] <cesarin> and I downloaded both JAVA &  w32 codecs from there
[03:40] <gt500> cesarin torrentspy.com
[03:40] <nalioth> cesarin: then you've got them installed
[03:40] <nightair> alexandros, I think maybe their .bin installer just places itself in a folder like in /usr/local or something. then might also create symlink or place plugin into browser plugins folder like firefox if u have it or if u accepted real plugin.
[03:40] <benplaut> bleh
[03:40] <cesarin> nalioth, not yet, I got the file, but thats why I Was asking the command to install them
[03:40] <gt500> Can anybody tell me why my graphics card is running games incrdibly slow
[03:40] <cesarin> then I wondered if it was dpkg -i <deb file name>
[03:41] <MaDsKiLLz> are breezy's binarys stripped?
[03:41] <nalioth> cesarin: in a terminal, "sudo dpkg -i install file.deb"
[03:41] <cesarin> and chizang  recommended me to check first the "control"
[03:41] <axl> how do i install javac?
[03:41] <gt500> Does anybody know why my video games, such as TuxRacer are running incredibly slow?
[03:41] <chizang> gt500: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[03:41] <gt500> k
[03:41] <jroes> argharghargh
[03:41] <jroes> ok
[03:41] <jroes> I'm at a console that you can use during the install - I need to install lilo
[03:42] <jroes> I was thinking possibly using dpkg, but dpkg isn't in the path and I can't seem to find a binary anywhere
[03:42] <cesarin> "errors found durring 'install' "
[03:42] <cesarin> vev
[03:42] <cesarin> brb
[03:42] <Christophe971> hello
[03:42] <WebLOCH> Opera was installed by default!
[03:42] <fmasi> Hi can some one tel me how to start a service in ubuntu i use to use the redhat system
[03:42] <nightair> alexandros, I see on mine there is link  /usr/bin/realplay -> /usr/lib/real/realplay and it seems the program lives in /usr/lib/real
[03:42] <gt500> When I run a simple video game, it lags like crazy, does anybody know what this is; possible graphics drivers???
[03:42] <Christophe971> just a question from a french man
[03:43] <Christophe971> what does "human beings" stand for ?
[03:43] <Christophe971> what does it means ?
[03:43] <jroes> people
[03:43] <sproingie> gt500: glxinfo | grep direct
[03:43] <test34> Christophe971, un tre humain
[03:43] <sproingie> gt500: does it say Yes or No?
[03:43] <WebLOCH> means not the french!
[03:43] <Agrajag> now that's not nice
[03:43] <gt500> hold on
[03:43] <WebLOCH> I was only joking
[03:43] <test34> ou les tre humains
[03:44] <Christophe971> test34: oki
[03:44] <cesarin> nalioth, : thepackage doesnt seem to like melol
[03:44] <gt500> sproingie under direct rendering??
[03:44] <ongster> hello, i have a question about audacity.  How come it can't export to mp3?
[03:44] <gt500> sproingie it says "no"
[03:44] <nalioth> !tell ongster about restricted
[03:44] <WebLOCH> ongster, MP3 is a restricted format, theres a good chance you can
[03:44] <sproingie> gt500: that's your problem.  you have no 3d accelleration
[03:45] <gt500> sproingie how do I put that on
[03:45] <sproingie> gt500: what kind of card do you have?
[03:45] <gt500> geforece fr 5200
[03:45] <gt500> fx
[03:45] <cesarin> nalioth, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2476
[03:45] <sproingie> gt500: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[03:46] <nightair> alexandros, ok also I see the log /usr/lib/real/install.log it tells what was done
[03:46] <cesarin> and Damn these ppl, they stoped seeding the bitorrent for java >_<
[03:46] <fmasi> can some one tel me how to start vsftpd as a sevice in ubuntu (new at ubuntu)
[03:46] <WebLOCH> cesarin just download the binary from sun
[03:46] <nalioth> cesarin: go to www.mplayerhq.hu the downloads page has an 'essental package'
[03:47] <durt> dabaR: i dont logout without closing opera; but you can choose whether to restore the tabs or not i guess
[03:47] <j0nas`> is breezy relatively stable?
[03:47] <WebLOCH> no
[03:47] <j0nas`> or should i wait till RC comes out
[03:47] <WebLOCH> yes
[03:47] <j0nas`> i am excited
[03:47] <test34> j0nas`, you should wait if you dont want any problems
[03:47] <`psycho> hi ppl
[03:48] <durt> unless he is having problems that might be alleviated in breezy
[03:48] <j0nas`> i am actually
[03:48] <toolbox> `psycho: hello
[03:48] <j0nas`> sound card issues
[03:48] <WebLOCH> durt not really worth the chance
[03:48] <WebLOCH> j0nas`,  whats your card?
[03:49] <j0nas`> i have an audigy card plus an onboard sound processor
[03:49] <j0nas`> meaning on the motherboard
[03:49] <Digo_RP> guys
[03:49] <test34> after the automatic updates, my X wouldnt boot
[03:49] <j0nas`> i cant get xmms, beep, anything to work
[03:49] <Digo_RP> please, I have install ubuntu amd64
[03:49] <j0nas`> i got some sound out of totem once
[03:49] <test34> (or start on boot)
[03:49] <Adross> in hoary, if you have gaim on one workspace, and are working on another, clicking on the gaim icon or on a guification will take you to gaim's workspace.
[03:49] <Adross> In breezy, clicking on the gaim icon or a guification brings the app to your workspace.
[03:49] <Adross> Is there anyway to change this?
[03:49] <j0nas`> but otherwise whatever app tries to use it freeze right up
[03:49] <WebLOCH> j0nas`, i can run you thru what i did
[03:49] <durt> in breezy ive had an easier time with sound cards and no noticeble problems
[03:49] <j0nas`> okay
[03:49] <Digo_RP> how could I install sun-j2re1.5
[03:49] <WebLOCH> lets move to pm
[03:49] <j0nas`> that would be great
[03:49] <Digo_RP> ?
[03:50] <`psycho> before i run into anything...can somebody tell me what's teh UTC time
[03:50] <WebLOCH> Digo_RP,  go download the binary from sun
[03:50] <`psycho> i thought that's GMT+0
[03:50] <Digo_RP> tnx
[03:50] <gt500> sproingie it says comand not found
[03:50] <Adross> utc=gmt
[03:50] <`psycho> i c
[03:50] <`psycho> then can u explain this
[03:50] <sproingie> gt500: did you go to that site?
[03:50] <`psycho> Local time is now: Sat Sep 24 03:49:21 CEST 2005.
[03:50] <`psycho> Universal Time is now: Sat Sep 24 01:49:21 UTC 2005.
[03:50] <gt500> sproingie yes, i typed in  the command and says not found
[03:50] <`psycho> i'm in CET=GMT+1
[03:51] <`psycho> so why are there 2 hrs diff ?!
[03:51] <sproingie> gt500: you have to put that into a web browser
[03:51] <gt500> nooo not the link
[03:51] <gt500> sproingie i put the command that the link tells you to
[03:51] <durt> Digo_rp: you can get the ubuntu package from hoary extras or backports
[03:51] <gt500> ok
[03:52] <gt500> sproingie sudo  nvidia-glx-config enable
[03:52] <evil_k> hi anyone
[03:52] <fossa> what's the aptitude command to get tcl tk and blt?
[03:52] <fmasi> Some one tel me how to put vsftpd as service in ubuntu please
[03:52] <god-zero> `psycho: are you in daylight's savings time?
[03:52] <evil_k> hey, im brand new to linux, anyone wanna give me a few pointers?
[03:52] <sproingie> gt500: that's actually the first thing it tells you to type?  jeepers.
[03:52] <nightair> test34, I did search for keyword "switcher" on gnome's bugzilla. results:  http://bugzilla.gnome.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&field0-0-0=product&type0-0-0=substring&value0-0-0=switcher&field0-0-1=component&type0-0-1=substring&value0-0-1=switcher&field0-0-2=short_desc&type0-0-2=substring&value0-0-2=switcher&field0-0-3=status_whiteboard&type0-0-3=substring&value0-0-3=switcher
[03:53] <gt500> no, it says something about synaptic
[03:53] <sproingie> gt500: try the parent page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:53] <Digo_RP> durt: how ? please
[03:53] <_blake> I keep getting this error even with all module dependecies installed "Error opening pcap: bind: Network is down
[03:53] <gt500> sproingie it says something about synaptic
[03:53] <nightair> test34, maybe something related in there
[03:53] <_blake> can anyone help?
[03:53] <nalioth> nightair: /pm does exist for that sort of thing
[03:53] <sproingie> gt500: i suggest following those synaptic instructions then
[03:53] <gt500> sproingie but i already did that
[03:53] <gt500> sproingie universe or multiverse
[03:53] <nightair> nalioth, yea sorry I didn't realize how large the url was
[03:53] <sproingie> gt500: restricted
[03:53] <gt500> sproingie let me check
[03:54] <cesarin> nalioth, by any chance, can you tell me again what was that program similar to WINAMP but for X?
[03:54] <sproingie> gt500: just enable them all in sources.list
[03:54] <nalioth> cesarin: xmms
[03:54] <ebdain> cesarin - XMMS
[03:54] <test34> nightair, I will check because nobody got this issue so far in #gnome
[03:54] <gt500> sproingie yes
[03:54] <cesarin> thx
[03:54] <nalioth> cesarin: or use beep media player (a gtk2 port of xmms)
[03:54] <sproingie> and jebuz, i hope breezy ships with them all enabled or at least a farking wizard at install time
[03:55] <gt500> sproingie so i'm not sure
[03:55] <sproingie> gt500: my experience is with ati, so i'm not much help with the commands in the nvidia part
[03:55] <durt> Digo_rp: add: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted, and deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted to /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:55] <nightair> test34, #gnome on freenode or #gnome on the gnome irc server. maybe more peopleon the gnome irc server I'd imagine
[03:55] <gt500> sproingie ok
[03:55] <evil_k> how to i change my resolution?
[03:55] <gt500> sproingie well it should be easy
[03:55] <edgardo> Hola! Buenas Noches...
[03:55] <nalioth> you guys paste your stuff into a pastebin or use /pm or /query
[03:55] <cesarin> edgardo: este no es el canal para espaol
[03:55] <jpmea> holas
[03:55] <cesarin> entra a ubuntu-es
[03:56] <Digo_RP> tnx a lot
[03:56] <fmasi> can some one help me whith vsftpd ?
[03:56] <_blake> I am trying to get aimsniff to work on our network, but i keep getting this error "Error opening pcap: bind: Network is down"  could it be because i am trying to sniff my wireless device?
[03:56] <nalioth> cesarin: esta #ubuntu-es
[03:56] <jpmea> alguien sabe cual es el repositorio para actualizar al gaim?
[03:56] <edgardo> Gracias, hasta pronto!
[03:56] <nalioth> !es
[03:56] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:56] <jpmea> me salta un error de gaim:
[03:56] <jpmea>   Depende: gaim-data (=1:1.4.0-1ubuntu1~5.04ubp1) pero se va a instalar 1:1.1.4-1ubuntu4.4
[03:56] <evil_k> ok figured it out
[03:57] <cesarin> nalioth,  thats what Im telling him
[03:57] <durt> !start a language war
[03:57] <ubotu> ADA is better than JavaScript!
[03:57] <durt> thats not what i meant ubotu...
[03:58] <cesarin> silly bot.. java is not for mirc programs :P
[03:58] <fmasi> my vsftpd whont start why ? "500 OOPS: could not bind listening IPv4 socket
[03:58] <fmasi> "
[03:58] <gt500> Can anybody help me install 3d accelerator for my graphics card??????/
[03:59] <test34> nightair, that was #gnome on freenode, I will try gnome on gnome network, because I didnt see my problem in the bug list you just found
[03:59] <durt> gt500: what kind of card?
[03:59] <WebLOCH> just out of curiosity, does anyone know what the "Yes" script is for?
[03:59] <gt500> geforce fx
[03:59] <gt500> durt geforce
[03:59] <durt> get nvidia-glx
[04:00] <Madpilot> !tell gt500 about nvidia
[04:00] <gt500> durt it doesnt work
[04:00] <elad`> In xchat, how do I list channel, but filter the results according to a certain word?
[04:00] <sproingie> WebLOCH: it sends an infinite series of 'yes' to stdout.  or whatever you tell it to
[04:00] <elad`> (Like mIRC does automatically)
[04:00] <cesarin> I should learn to not erase the logs >_<
[04:00] <gt500> durt that doesnt work
[04:00] <cesarin> I forgot what was that trillian-like program for linux
[04:00] <WebLOCH> sproingie, yeah i noticed, just havent been able to use it yet
[04:00] <gt500> Madpilot doesn't work
[04:00] <cesarin> I only remember it starts with "K" >_<
[04:00] <durt> gt500 yes it does, whats the problem?
[04:00] <gt500> Madpilot i am there right now
[04:00] <gt500> durt it says command not found
[04:01] <nightair> test34, yea on this page they show all their channels on their server http://gnomesupport.org/wiki/index.php/IrcChannels
[04:01] <sproingie> WebLOCH: you pipe it in to programs that prompt you endlessly to just answer yes to everything.  it's kind of useless these days
[04:01] <durt> gt500, what command?
[04:01] <gt500> durt alec@alec:~$ sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[04:01] <gt500> Password:
[04:01] <gt500> sudo: nvidia-glx-config: command not found
[04:01] <nomasteryoda> i have a system that boots but hangs at snd-hda-intel...... is there a way to turn this off?
[04:01] <prabu^> anyone got Tomcat 5.0.28 + MySQL working ?
[04:01] <WebLOCH> sproingie,  yes I know lol, I was just saying I couldnt figure out HOW to set the target for output
[04:01] <shaoqi> hi. how come i cannot copy files or install files into my system? It says I don't have access. How to solve this? Thanks.
[04:01] <sproingie> WebLOCH: you pipe it
[04:01] <WebLOCH> like..
[04:02] <WebLOCH> blah blah | yes
[04:02] <sproingie> no
[04:02] <sproingie> yes | blah blah
[04:02] <WebLOCH> ahh
[04:02] <sproingie> yes will actually repeat all its args
[04:02] <nomasteryoda> !tell shaoqi about sudo
[04:02] <durt> gt500: have you edited xorg.conf so that the driver is "nvidia" and not "nv"?
[04:03] <gt500> durt no
[04:03] <gt500> durt how do i do that
[04:03] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, did you try using the sudo command?
[04:03] <shaoqi> no. i'm still new to linux.
[04:03] <nomasteryoda> k
[04:03] <elad`> Name a flashget like application for Linux.
[04:03] <shaoqi> so i see installation cant be done like this.
[04:03] <fmasi> can some one give me some help whith vsftpd ?
[04:04] <shaoqi> must be using this sudo command only?
[04:04] <nomasteryoda> !sudo
[04:04] <ubotu> well, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[04:04] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, look at that url
[04:04] <shaoqi> yup, i'm reading it. thanks..
[04:04] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, yes.. to protect your system
[04:04] <shaoqi> can i logon to the admin account by default?
[04:04] <nomasteryoda> Linux is much more protective of the sytem than that other OS
[04:04] <gt500> durt please dont bail out on me
[04:04] <shaoqi> i see..
[04:04] <jsubl2> osx ships the same way.. you use sudo by default
[04:05] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, you can open a terminal and type
[04:05] <nomasteryoda> sudo -s
[04:05] <gt500> Can anybody help me install 3d accelerator for my graphics card??????/
[04:05] <durt> gt500, "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf", scroll down to the device line for the card and change the "nv" to "nvidia"
[04:05] <sproingie> i'm told windows vista makes creating a non-administrator account non-optional on install
[04:05] <shaoqi> what does that do?
[04:05] <nomasteryoda> then work from that during your session to open stuff like synaptic, etc.
[04:05] <sproingie> and has most programs including installers run as a non-admin
[04:05] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, acts like the system administrator
[04:05] <shaoqi> ic..
[04:06] <sproingie> now that windows has figured out POLA, i guess they'll spend the next 20 years patching privilege escalation bugs just like unix
[04:06] <cesarin> btw, how .BIN files should be transformed into DEB ?
[04:06] <shaoqi> so in linux, most things are done in terminal, rather than using gui?
[04:06] <nomasteryoda> you can do them in gui
[04:06] <cesarin> shaoqi: just those who needs higher privileges
[04:06] <evil_k> how do i find my other partitions in the file browser?
[04:06] <WebLOCH> shaoqi, not necessarily, but its faster
[04:07] <gt500> durt okay done
[04:07] <nomasteryoda> even MS is realizing this fact
[04:07] <sproingie> shaoqi: most system admin stuff.  there's gui apps for most of it, but most people experienced enough to help are used to the commandline versions
[04:07] <test34> shaoqi, that is what ubuntu tries to change I think
[04:07] <cesarin> evil_k,  NTFS partitions are not visible, unless you install the patch :P
[04:07] <nomasteryoda> yea sproingie CLI rocks
[04:07] <HATTMAN> How do you find out your hostname for installation?
[04:07] <evil_k> what about my fat32 partitions?
[04:07] <shaoqi> oh. ok.. thanks..
[04:07] <shaoqi> then i need to learn more about those commands
[04:07] <evil_k> and where do i find the ntfs patch?
[04:07] <sproingie> gui admin apps have one advantage: a decent gui makes it impossible to create a nonsensical config file
[04:08] <ubercompuser> i cant get firefox to start. can somebody help me. it also wont upgrade
[04:08] <shaoqi> i'm totally new to this shell command thing
[04:08] <Madpilot> shaoqi: for adding programs, you can use Synaptic for GUI - go System menu - Admin - Synpatic Package Manager
[04:08] <cesarin> !tell evil_k about ntfs
[04:08] <durt> gt500, and restart x (ctrl-alt-bkspace) to see if it works
[04:08] <cesarin> that thingie is preety easy to install to be honest
[04:08] <shaoqi> madpilot, thanks for this alternative..
[04:08] <WebLOCH> shaoqi, its easy to pick up if you just sit in linux for a couple of days
[04:08] <theconartist> what packages in a fresh 5.10 install do apm/apci interfacing
[04:08] <evil_k> thanks
[04:08] <shaoqi> webloch, yeah, i guess so. that's what i'm going to do :)
[04:09] <HATTMAN> Does anyone know how to find out your hostname for installation?
[04:09] <sproingie> technically you can admin nt completely from the CLI, but some of the things aren't even named, and you end up using GUID's
[04:09] <WebLOCH> shaoqi, the most important things to remember are "sudo" and "man"
[04:09] <Madpilot> !telll shaoqi about cli
[04:09] <cesarin> anyone got the notification of new patches of phytoon?
[04:09] <IceDragon> Hey
[04:09] <shaoqi> !tell shaoqi about man
[04:09] <ubercompuser> has anybidy had a problem with firefox since the upgarde?
[04:10] <JosephB> !tell josephb about backports
[04:10] <shaoqi> lol, wahat is man?
[04:10] <Madpilot> shaoqi: the links ubotu just sent you have good basic information on the Linux command line stuff
[04:10] <IceDragon> I have a file (cedega.tgz) on my desktop, how would I go about installing it?
[04:10] <gt500> durt i run the command again right
[04:10] <sproingie> ubercompuser: i had a temporary problem with it segfaulting.  permissions problems on fonts
[04:10] <knewt> is there any way to stop the ubuntu installer from trying to install a kernel?
[04:10] <IceDragon> In the archive is a usr folder
[04:10] <shaoqi> yeah. got it.. but what is man?
[04:10] <cesarin> IceDragon,  that file is compressed, I think you have to use the "TAR" command
[04:10] <IceDragon> and folders pretaining to my root usr folder etc...
[04:10] <ubercompuser> sproingie, can i message you the log?
[04:10] <gt500> durt root@alec:/home/alec # sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[04:10] <gt500> sudo: nvidia-glx-config: command not found
[04:10] <nomasteryoda> !man
[04:10] <ubotu> Wish i knew, nomasteryoda
[04:10] <IceDragon> ok
[04:10] <Madpilot> shaoqi: "man" is the command to find the manual files
[04:10] <nomasteryoda> LOL
[04:10] <WebLOCH> shaoqi,  man is manual
[04:10] <sproingie> ubercompuser: use pastebin
[04:10] <durt> gt500, no, youve just done what that command is supposed to do
[04:11] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, type man man
[04:11] <WebLOCH> shaoqi, so you type it before a command, like "man cp"
[04:11] <ubercompuser> pastebin?????
[04:11] <kairu0> what is the best WMV3 player for ubuntu?
[04:11] <gt500> ooo okay
[04:11] <gt500> ok brb
[04:11] <brownie17> if i want to download a new version for Gaim, then should i download the redhat fedora or "autopackage" file?
[04:11] <shaoqi> ubotu says there's no such word when i type "man"
[04:11] <ubotu> shaoqi: Not a clue
[04:11] <IceDragon> TAR command not found
[04:11] <WebLOCH> shaoqi, that will bring up the user manual for the cp or copy command
[04:11] <Madpilot> shaoqi:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands - there's a short item on "man" there
[04:11] <sproingie> nomasteryoda: sadly, 'man man' is a prime example of an overly technical manpage
[04:11] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, in your terminal
[04:11] <WebLOCH> shaoqi, remember it is case sensitive
[04:11] <durt> gt500, but you might not have the package installed or something if you cant run that command
[04:11] <nomasteryoda> sproingie, i know
[04:11] <evil_k> ok.. how to i run scripts?
[04:11] <brownie17> Madpilot, tell ubotu that
[04:11] <IceDragon> cesarin, TAR Command not found
[04:11] <shaoqi> yeah. i remember that, case sensitive:)
[04:11] <theconartist> during install of ubuntu i chose not to configure atm, now that the isntall is done it wont even recognize it
[04:11] <drummer87> hey, i need help with firefox.. apt updated to 1.0.7 from 1.0.6(backports) and gave an error, now firefox won't start and i can't reinstall 1.0.6 - http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/372411
[04:12] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, how about try "man sudo"
[04:12] <durt> evil_k: sh whatever.sh
[04:12] <sproingie> nomasteryoda: bash needs to let go of 'help' and just let that be an alias for man that searches a special manpage dir first
[04:12] <Madpilot> brownie17: good idea... one sec...
[04:12] <cesarin> IceDragon,  sorry man but im new to linux too, maybe if you ask nalioth ?
[04:12] <nomasteryoda> yes
[04:12] <nomasteryoda> i agree
[04:12] <IceDragon> hmmk
[04:12] <sproingie> and frankly the man viewer needs hypertext, it's freaking embarrassing that DOS 6.0 has a better help system
[04:12] <shaoqi> not a clue
[04:12] <cesarin> nalioth,  = PRO :P
[04:12] <shaoqi> momasteryoday, not a clue, it says
[04:12] <IceDragon> nalioth, How would I install a tgz file in my desktop folder?
[04:12] <nomasteryoda> IceDragon, what was the question
[04:12] <ubercompuser> it says broken pipe!!!!
[04:12] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, where did you ask?
[04:12] <brownie17> can somebody help me? i want to download the new Gaim version, should i download the "fedora", "redhat" or the "autopackage" file?
[04:12] <shaoqi> privmsg
[04:13] <WebLOCH> sproingie, better still i think it needs to make use of TeX/LaTeX
[04:13] <Madpilot> !+man
[04:13] <ubotu> The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man man" at the command line, or see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands
[04:13] <IceDragon> nomasteryoda, I have a cedega tar archive that I would like to install
[04:13] <drummer87> someone??
[04:13] <IceDragon> And I dont want to use apt-get
[04:13] <sproingie> WebLOCH: html would be fine.  plain text is fine.  it just needs to be informative.
[04:13] <cesarin> ok, how dumb I am
[04:13] <brownie17> Madpilot, good job
[04:13] <cesarin> finally managed to find the JAVA package on synaptic
[04:13] <nomasteryoda> IceDragon, well, since it it is a tar, you would extract to your folder
[04:13] <evil_k> thanks durt
[04:13] <cesarin> I only had to force it via "installa pplications"
[04:14] <knewt> no-one has any suggestions?
[04:14] <cesarin> and install the correct "multiverse" supository :P
[04:14] <Madpilot> brownie17: thanks
[04:14] <Iamgoodstuff> anyone willing to give me some help with ubuntu liveCd
[04:14] <nomasteryoda> and IceDragon you need to add the "build-essential" packages
[04:14] <WebLOCH> cesarin, theres a guide on how to install it
[04:14] <nomasteryoda> using apt-get
[04:14] <sproingie> actually man's manpage isn't too bad -- it has examples
[04:14] <IceDragon> nomasteryoda, I know, I can extract it, but I cant get access privelages to install it
[04:14] <cesarin> WebLOCH, : I followed it, but its a total crap to be honest
[04:14] <brownie17> drummer, i might be able to help you
[04:14] <cesarin> WebLOCH, it confused more than it helped
[04:14] <nomasteryoda> IceDragon, that is using sudo
[04:14] <IceDragon> I am logged in as root through the terminal
[04:14] <Madpilot> sproingie: "man intro" is also good
[04:14] <WebLOCH> cesarin, worked okay for me, if yo get stuck after this ill try and help
[04:14] <nomasteryoda> !sudo
[04:14] <ubotu> well, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[04:14] <cesarin> WebLOCH,  like saying one thing, to later do other, mostly commands
[04:14] <IceDragon> nomasteryoda, I am already logged in as root
[04:14] <nomasteryoda> IceDragon, well then you are at the right level
[04:14] <nomasteryoda> k
[04:14] <Iamgoodstuff> anyone?
[04:14] <brownie17> drummer87, you should unenable backports, then re-install firefox through synaptic, then reinstall backports
[04:15] <IceDragon> How do I open the file manager from the terminal?
[04:15] <nomasteryoda> IceDragon, is there a configure file there?
[04:15] <drummer87> brownie17, will try that
[04:15] <IceDragon> nautilus
[04:15] <WebLOCH> IceDragon, type Nautilus
[04:15] <Madpilot> IceDragon: type nautilus
[04:15] <nomasteryoda> yes
[04:15] <cesarin> WebLOCH, : well, what I need atm  is help on "FLASH PLAYER" for firefox :>
[04:15] <Iamgoodstuff> hello.... anyone.. please
[04:15] <WebLOCH> cesarin, yeah I need to install java again now
[04:15] <brownie17> drummer87, until firefox is in the others, you should try to steer clear of it
[04:15] <Madpilot> !tell cesarin about flash
[04:15] <IceDragon> GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[04:15] <IceDragon> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[04:15] <IceDragon> ?
[04:15] <WebLOCH> cesarin, I havent quite figured that yet, the flashplayer i did get froze up when loading
[04:15] <drummer87> brownie17, in the others?? what do you mean
[04:16] <wasabi> Where can I find instructions for Hoary NDIS wrapper configuration?
[04:16] <theconartist> what is the default root pass...
[04:16] <IceDragon> What does that message mean nomasteryoda ?
[04:16] <nomasteryoda> IceDragon, did you change your hostname in the network-admin tool?
[04:16] <IceDragon> nope
[04:16] <theconartist> i cant freaking beleive ubuntu doesn't prompt for root password on install
[04:16] <IceDragon> didnt change a thing
[04:16] <Madpilot> IceDragon: you said you're in a Root Terminal? Use a regular Terminal, and sudo when needed
[04:16] <cesarin> WebLOCH, : mostly when I try following the instructions of wiki, it just makes firefox to crash every flash I touch
[04:16] <IceDragon> ok
[04:16] <Madpilot> !tell theconartist about root
[04:16] <brownie17> drummer87, the other repos
[04:16] <Iamgoodstuff> Ok can someone please help me with something
[04:16] <IceDragon> Well, I did a su root in the regular terminal
[04:16] <nomasteryoda> Iamgoodstuff, you have to ask the question
[04:16] <cesarin> Madpilot,  thanks man, but been here 3 fdays struggling to install FLASH PLAYER, following that CRAP instruction :P
[04:16] <nomasteryoda> IceDragon, use "sudo"
[04:16] <shaoqi> erm. i tried login to winxp, but i can't see the hdd that ubuntu is installed on, why?
[04:17] <Iamgoodstuff> Sorry you just all seemed to be ignoring me
[04:17] <Iamgoodstuff> Well anyways
[04:17] <WebLOCH> cesarin, did you install the GPL one or the Non-free one ?
[04:17] <brownie17> drummer87, i help heaps of people on here who get similar probelms with backports, and i once had the same problem with smeg. did it work?
[04:17] <durt> wasabi: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu
[04:17] <Iamgoodstuff> I boot from the LiveCd
[04:17] <linda> hey guys, trying 5.10 and sudo passwd root isnt working :(
[04:17] <Iamgoodstuff> Version 5.04 form AMD64
[04:17] <cesarin> WebLOCH,  I followed the url to get them
[04:17] <Madpilot> cesarin: get the Flash/Linux stuff from Macromedia's website, that's what I wound up doing to get Flash into Opera - and it works for FF too
[04:17] <Iamgoodstuff> and everythign seems to be going fine
[04:17] <WebLOCH> cesarin,  you installed from binaries?
[04:17] <nomasteryoda> linda, did you type the password when you made your account?
[04:17] <gazzerh> use: sudo su
[04:17] <Iamgoodstuff> but it won;t boot to the Desktop Environment
[04:17] <nomasteryoda> or write it
[04:17] <brownie17> Iamgoodstuff, you need to tell your entire problem in one line
[04:17] <gazzerh> should work
[04:17] <IceDragon> nomasteryoda, it said I'm not in the sudeors file
[04:18] <IceDragon> I just recreated my account because it was fux0red for some reason
[04:18] <nomasteryoda> ice, close that terminal
[04:18] <nomasteryoda> ah
[04:18] <linda> it didnt ask for root password
[04:18] <IceDragon> I did
[04:18] <wasabi> Does NDIS work with USB wifi adapter?
[04:18] <nomasteryoda> well that explains that
[04:18] <Madpilot> linda: there is no root by default in Ubuntu...
[04:18] <WebLOCH> Does anyone know if the x64 edition of ubuntu supports Intel EMT64 ?
[04:18] <Madpilot> !tell linda about root
[04:18] <IceDragon> What?
[04:18] <cesarin> WebLOCH,  tried the 64 bit version, it destroyed my firefox
[04:18] <durt> wasabi: yes, but i dont have one of those
[04:18] <WebLOCH> wasabi, it could be a problem with USB or with the wifi adapter
[04:18] <Iamgoodstuff> yes it supports emt64
[04:18] <brownie17> Iamgoodstuff, and ask. otherwise people will think you already have somebody helping you, i.e. intead of "it doesnt boot right" say "i need help with livecd, it doesn't boot right. cqan anyone help me?"
[04:18] <shaoqi> erm. i tried login to winxp, but i can't see the hdd that ubuntu is installed on, why? thanks..
[04:18] <nomasteryoda> IceDragon, your account was fouled?... how?
[04:18] <cesarin> WebLOCH,  haven tried the 32 bits, and Im gonna try atm, just need to finish installing my firefox patches
[04:18] <drummer87> brownie17, nope.. i think the package mozilla-firefox was a metapackage pointing to firefox in backports, but now is the only firefox package needed
[04:18] <WebLOCH> wasabi, i have found that my USB bluetooth devices dont work, even though I have evverything installed correctly
[04:19] <IceDragon> nomasteryoda, I think I changed my root folder
[04:19] <IceDragon> then gave me a gnome create folder error or somthing
[04:19] <WebLOCH> cesarin,  fair enough then buddy, let me know how you fair, also, PLEASE consider using Opera
[04:19] <brownie17> drummer87, ok, sorry. i tried :(
[04:19] <WebLOCH> Iamgoodstuff, thanks for the info
[04:19] <IceDragon> root folder for the account
[04:19] <Iamgoodstuff> no problem webloch
[04:19] <nomasteryoda> IceDragon, that is getting overly complicated.... ubuntu made it simple for you...
[04:19] <nomasteryoda> made..
[04:19] <`psycho> how to add someone in the sudoers list in hoary but via console ? does the person only have to be in the admin group or ?
[04:19] <Iamgoodstuff> Anyways.. I'm having trouble getting the LiveCd to work on my AMD64 machine.. can someone please help?
[04:20] <IceDragon> :-\
[04:20] <Madpilot> `psycho: "man adduser"
[04:20] <nomasteryoda> I have not a clue on repairing that damage
[04:20] <drummer87> i could uninstall all firefox packages, but then i'll have to get rid of yelp, ubuntu-desktop and a few others for a moment.. perhaps that will work, albeit a hassle
[04:20] <IceDragon> Well that doesnt really help
[04:20] <IceDragon> heh
[04:20] <nomasteryoda> i know
[04:20] <shaoqi> erm. i tried login to winxp, but i can't see the hdd that ubuntu is installed on, why? thanks..
[04:20] <IceDragon> So what do you suggest I do?
[04:20] <Madpilot> `psycho: and please consider starting your nick with an actual letter, not a punctuation mark?
[04:20] <WebLOCH> drummer thats not true
[04:20] <nomasteryoda> if it was me, and the install was new i would reinstall
[04:20] <cesarin> WebLOCH,  might try, now to try flash
[04:20] <cesarin> brb
[04:20] <nomasteryoda> but you can reboot to the "safe" mode
[04:20] <IceDragon> :-\
[04:21] <theconartist> when i run ubuntu device database collection, it stalls on network test
[04:21] <IceDragon> Well, I removed the other accouhnt
[04:21] <WebLOCH> drummer87, if you use apt-get you can uninstall firefox specifically and not every listed dependancy
[04:21] <sproingie> psyco's name is actually the easiest one here to tab-complete
[04:21] <IceDragon> because I still have another user that I created
[04:21] <locomorto> shaoqi: becuase microsoft doesn't want you too
[04:21] <nomasteryoda> IceDragon, there is a way to set the sudoers list
[04:21] <IceDragon> that didnt get messed up
[04:21] <nomasteryoda> i think it is at
[04:21] <locomorto> shaoqi: ring them up and complain
[04:21] <nomasteryoda> !sudo
[04:21] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[04:21] <nomasteryoda> or links to it
[04:21] <tycoon> !sudo
[04:21] <IceDragon> ok
[04:21] <shaoqi> locomorto, but if i want to, how can i see my hdd?
[04:21] <kairu0> what is the best WMV3 player for ubuntu?
[04:21] <`psycho> sproingie, why thx ;)
[04:21] <Iamgoodstuff> When I boot from the Ubuntu live CD (version 5.04 for AMD64) everything seems to be going ok and it seems to be loading fine but then it stops and never goes to the desktop environment.. can anyone help me?
[04:21] <locomorto> shaoqi: you can't
[04:21] <cesarin> WebLOCH,  btw, where I do download the 32 bit version of flash?
[04:22] <_n00blar_> kairu0, use xine and download w32codecs
[04:22] <cesarin> since I get nothing when I type the sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[04:22] <shaoqi> locomorto, it's not possible?
[04:22] <brownie17> how dod i give someone the rights to use synaptic/
[04:22] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, you can.... see NTFS from within Linux, but seeing Linux from windows is not simple
[04:22] <WebLOCH> cesarin, i use apt wherever possible, you can try sudo apt-get install gpl-flash
[04:22] <Gobbla> nomasteryoda: is it even possible?
[04:22] <cesarin> nomasteryoda,  there are 2 programs, let me check if I have them still
[04:22] <IceDragon> hmm k
[04:22] <shaoqi> yah. i can see ntfs from linux, but not from windows
[04:22] <Madpilot> cesarin: it's in Multiverse
[04:22] <nomasteryoda> Gobbla, yes
[04:22] <IceDragon> I'll be back soon
[04:23] <locomorto> shaoqi: no
[04:23] <cesarin> Madpilot, : thanks man! will search it
[04:23] <shaoqi> nomasteryoda, i want to see linux from windows, how can i do it?
[04:23] <theconartist> does anyone know the kernel parameter to disable apm?
[04:23] <Iamgoodstuff> When I boot from the Ubuntu live CD (version 5.04 for AMD64) everything seems to be going ok and it seems to be loading fine but then it stops and never goes to the desktop environment.. can anyone help me?
[04:23] <cesarin> WebLOCH, : cannot find gpl-flash
[04:23] <cesarin> brb
[04:23] <Auckland_Pig> hi, does ubuntu live cd have a disk partition utility, like knoppix has QT parted?
[04:23] <WebLOCH> cesarin, you running breezy or hoary ?
[04:23] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, if the Linux partition was formatted as ext2 (3?) then ext2fs will work...slow, but it worked for me
[04:23] <nomasteryoda> it's out on the web
[04:24] <Iamgoodstuff> hello.. please help
[04:24] <Iamgoodstuff> anyone
[04:24] <tritium> brownie17, you add that user to the admin group
[04:24] <Iamgoodstuff> I don;t even care if you can help me, just say something
[04:24] <shaoqi> mine was formatted as ext3, can i makie it visible on windows still?
[04:24] <Iamgoodstuff> tell me to hit my computer with a hammer.. I don't care
[04:24] <Auckland_Pig> hi Iamgoodstuff ... how are you
[04:24] <WebLOCH> shaoqi,  not yet
[04:24] <theconartist> does anyone know the kernel parameter to disable apm?
[04:24] <Iamgoodstuff> thanks auckland pig
[04:24] <sproingie> Iamgoodstuff: okay, hit your computer with a hammer
[04:24] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, well that is still ext2 but with journaling....
[04:24] <cesarin> WebLOCH, breezy
[04:24] <nomasteryoda> works for me
[04:24] <cesarin> 32bit 686
[04:24] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, look on google
[04:24] <WebLOCH> cesarin, I assume you have the backports commented out
[04:24] <Auckland_Pig> dont worry Iamgoodstuff someone will help u... just be patient
[04:25] <Madpilot> Iamgoodstuff: percussive repairs can be entertaining, at least for the user ;)
[04:25] <sproingie> Iamgoodstuff: just ask, no need to ask to ask
[04:25] <Iamgoodstuff> well it didn;t get the LiveCd working but I do have a badass "dent" casemod now
[04:25] <cesarin> WebLOCH,  backports?
[04:25] <WebLOCH> cesarin, I use them, but on breezy i wouldnt recommend it
[04:25] <Auckland_Pig> hi, does ubuntu live cd have a disk partition utility, like knoppix has QT parted?
[04:25] <WebLOCH> cesarin, i dont know what to recommend
[04:25] <shaoqi> nomasteryoda, ok let me try then
[04:25] <cesarin> WebLOCH, ok no problem
[04:25] <nomasteryoda> http://e2fsprogs.sourceforge.net/ext2.html
[04:25] <Iamgoodstuff> well sorry guys but I have to leave now.. Hopefulyl someone can help me later as I would love to see what Ubuntu can do before I install it on my machine
[04:25] <nomasteryoda> its on the right site at least
[04:26] <Iamgoodstuff> leave
[04:26] <theconartist> what is contained in ubuntu-desktop
[04:26] <cesarin> madpilot theres a program named 277trans
[04:26] <cesarin> sadly cant see its contents atm since its for winbloze
[04:27] <cesarin> its a File brownser like, but handles linux partitions
[04:27] <drummer87> well.. i got firefox installed without error, but it won't start?!? how can i get debugging output from FF in a console?
[04:27] <Madpilot> cesarin: what's it for?
[04:27] <WebLOCH> hmm im beginning to wonder if i should find a way to convert my music collection to ogg
[04:27] <Phr0stByte> Anyone here have a GrandStream VoIP adapter hooked up?
[04:27] <Madpilot> cesarin: ah, gotcha.
[04:27] <cesarin> WebLOCH,  ok, found the "nonfree flashplayer" on multieverse
[04:27] <cesarin> it seems to work
[04:27] <nomasteryoda> WebLOCH, if you have a player that will play them, do it...
[04:28] <nomasteryoda> i mean hardware player like Neuros
[04:29] <theconartist> does anyone know the kernel parameter to disable apm?
[04:29] <shaoqi> nomasteryoda, what do i type to seach on google to get the info i need? thanks
[04:29] <WebLOCH> cesarin, yeah thats the one i installed before
[04:29] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi,  http://e2fsprogs.sourceforge.net/ext2.html
[04:29] <nomasteryoda> that is the site
[04:29] <WebLOCH> cesarin, im not sure how thourough its compatibility is
[04:29] <shaoqi> okay. let me check it out thanks
[04:30] <WebLOCH> nomasteryoda, yeah, but im worried about quality loss
[04:30] <nomasteryoda> well thye had the link there before
[04:30] <WebLOCH> nomasteryoda, and its going to take ages
[04:30] <nomasteryoda> crud.... just sec
[04:30] <Phr0stByte> Anyone here have a GrandStream VoIP adapter hooked up?
[04:30] <hmrocha> helloo
[04:31] <nomasteryoda> http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm
[04:31] <nomasteryoda> thats it shaoqi
[04:31] <cesarin> WebLOCH,  I used another one
[04:31] <hmrocha> how can i burn a file to a cd without creating an image first?
[04:31] <cafuego_> How would you use one to call the electricity company faults line when the power goes out? ;-)
[04:31] <cesarin> sadly I erased it
[04:31] <hmrocha> burning on the fly with nautilus
[04:31] <cesarin> but it seemed to work.
[04:31] <cafuego_> nomasteryoda: No, there's a much better one.
[04:31] <shaoqi> nomsteryoda, ok. let me read and see how i can go about to do it
[04:31] <nomasteryoda> cafuego, yea there is
[04:31] <cafuego_> nomasteryoda: ext2fsd.sf.net, allows you to mount it like a normal disk.
[04:31] <nomasteryoda> right
[04:32] <cafuego_> and read/write via the windows explorer
[04:32] <cafuego_> ext3 as well
[04:32] <WebLOCH> really?
[04:32] <cafuego_> Yep.
[04:32] <nomasteryoda> cafuego, thanks
[04:32] <WebLOCH> how stable is it ?
[04:32] <nomasteryoda> i forgot about that project
[04:32] <WebLOCH> ahh i was at this site the other day, i couldnt find ext3
[04:32] <sproingie> i didn't realize it was still active
[04:32] <cafuego_> WebLOCH: I've not had problems with it, just keep in mind that after rbooting, any file to copied TO ext2/ext3 is owned by root:root
[04:32] <nomasteryoda> new release in July 2005 too
[04:33] <nomasteryoda> super..!! shaoqi glad you asked
[04:33] <WebLOCH> cafuego, yeah i guessed lol
[04:33] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, do use that one like cafuego suggested
[04:33] <shaoqi> nomasteryoda, but thanks alot for your help.
[04:33] <nomasteryoda> np
[04:33] <sproingie> neat.  tho for my box i'd need a xfs driver
[04:33] <shaoqi> use ex2fs?
[04:33] <cafuego_> And oh, it can't mount ext2/ext3 if the filesystem is NOT marked clean.
[04:33] <cesarin> damn, this TV time program KICKS ASS
[04:34] <cesarin> I can see porn from my cable system wich was usually blocked :P
[04:34] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, ext2fsd.sf.net
[04:34] <nomasteryoda> http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd
[04:34] <durt> whoa there whats this about porn?
[04:35] <shaoqi> nomasteryoda, thanks
[04:35] <nomasteryoda> cesarin, certainly you mean Pr0n
[04:35] <shaoqi> cafuego_, thanks too
[04:35] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, thanks to you I remember that project from Freshmeat long ago
[04:35] <WebLOCH> hmmm
[04:35] <WebLOCH> whats the smeg package name?
[04:35] <Phr0stByte> Anyone here have a GrandStream VoIP adapter hooked up?
[04:36] <shaoqi> nomasteryoda, i didn't do anything though..
[04:36] <nomasteryoda> Phr0stByte, did you ask about that on some voip channel?
[04:36] <cesarin> nomasteryoda,  but.. of courrrseee
[04:36] <theconartist> wtf
[04:36] <cafuego_> !smeg
[04:36] <ubotu> smeg is probably a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[04:36] <theconartist> how do i configure my NIC
[04:36] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, yes you did... you prompted the discussion...
[04:36] <theconartist> ubutnu is t3h borked
[04:36] <cesarin> btw, anyone can remind me what is the program for linux that is like TRILLIAN?
[04:36] <WebLOCH> yeah ive checked the backports
[04:36] <WebLOCH> its not available
[04:36] <WebLOCH> cesarin,  GAIM
[04:36] <Madpilot> !smeg
[04:36] <ubotu> well, smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[04:36] <cafuego_> Well, try THAT url then
[04:36] <Phr0stByte> nomasteryoda: What voip channel - be glad to ask there
[04:36] <WebLOCH> dirty
[04:36] <shaoqi> nomasteryoda, haha. i got more questions too =x haha
[04:36] <nomasteryoda> k
[04:36] <ol> i sanyone here running ubuntu on a laptop
[04:36] <nomasteryoda> hehe
[04:37] <cafuego_> ol: I am.
[04:37] <nomasteryoda> Phr0stByte, lets see
[04:37] <ol> could you explain the knid of things you had to do to get it running?
[04:37] <Madpilot> ol: lots of people are, maybe not here now though
[04:37] <cafuego_> Well, not right now, but it is installed and it does run, when it;'s on.
[04:37] <ol> mine alwayas freezes as it tries to load hotplug.. iv tried tons of things
[04:37] <cafuego_> ol: I had to install it from the cd.
[04:37] <ol> thats what im doing, how else would you?
[04:37] <cafuego_> ol: It's not a HP nx9005 is it?
[04:37] <ol> no
[04:37] <ol> sager
[04:37] <cafuego_> No idea, then.
[04:38] <ol> it obviously doesnt like some of my hardware but disabling apic and all that doesnt help
[04:38] <cesarin> WebLOCH,  that is not GAIM
[04:38] <cesarin> GAIM = MSN copy
[04:38] <cesarin> and gaim = not skinneable
[04:38] <cafuego_> Gaim does a lot more then MSN
[04:38] <theconartist> gam is not an msn copy...
[04:38] <theconartist> gaim*
[04:38] <durt> wtf do you need skins?
[04:38] <WebLOCH> cesarin, GAIM is a multiprotocol client and yes it is skinnable, just not particularly good
[04:38] <cafuego_> including, but not limited to running on Windows ;-)
[04:39] <theconartist> and it is skinnable
[04:39] <WebLOCH> haha
[04:39] <WebLOCH> pwnzD!
[04:39] <cafuego_> tritium: Maybe it would work better if you whispered sweet nothings to it...
[04:40] <durt> do flash and java work with dillo?
[04:40] <tritium> maybe it would work better if I threw it out the window...
[04:40] <theconartist> ubuntu is being a poo poo head
[04:40] <cesarin> I remmeber someone said about "K" sometihg
[04:40] <theconartist> somebody help me
[04:40] <cesarin> like KALAKA
[04:40] <cesarin> wich was almost identic to trillian and preety stable
[04:40] <cesarin> but I Forgot the real name x_X
[04:40] <WebLOCH> cafuego, I dont suppose you know which backport SMEG was in, I'd like to re-add it haha
[04:40] <tritium> cafuego, :)
[04:40] <c0rrupt_> how can i change the contents of a directory that are only available for viewing with root, to be viewable to another unser
[04:40] <theconartist> how the hell do i do a post install configuration of my NIC!?!?!?!??!?!
[04:40] <c0rrupt_> user*
[04:40] <nomasteryoda> Phr0stByte, you look here?
[04:40] <nomasteryoda> anything to do with asterisk
[04:40] <tritium> c0rrupt_, do you see the topic, and what it says about backports?
[04:40] <cafuego_> WebLOCH: The smeg factoid has a url. Go there. Enjoy.
[04:41] <c0rrupt_> ,?
[04:41] <theconartist> you cant be serious that nobody here knows
[04:41] <cafuego_> c0rrupt_: What disk? ntfs? vfat?
[04:41] <c0rrupt_> ntfs
[04:41] <cesarin> theconartist, excuse me man, but the default skin of gaim is IDENTIC to MSN's or AIM's default crap, and its horrible, too simplistic, and you cant manage your contacts at all
[04:41] <tritium> theconartist, did you try System->Administration->Networking for starters?
[04:41] <cafuego_> theconartist: run etherconf
[04:41] <c0rrupt_> im just saying in general though
[04:41] <shaoqi> how come i tried to run as different user (root), i key in my password and it says wrong password?
[04:41] <c0rrupt_> like whats the chmod command
[04:41] <theconartist> tritium, of course
[04:41] <WebLOCH> cafuego, I meant Id like to have that backport added haha
[04:41] <cafuego_> cesarin: Gaim is a chat client, not a contact manager <heh>
[04:41] <Phr0stByte> nomasteryoda: yeah - just nobody home in those channels
[04:41] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, there is no root on ubuntu
[04:41] <tritium> theconartist, then why are you asking how to configure?
[04:42] <nomasteryoda> Phr0stByte, oh well
[04:42] <cesarin> ............
[04:42] <cesarin> cafuego_, : I mean like Trillian
[04:42] <c0rrupt_> gaim is good
[04:42] <c0rrupt_> im using ti right now
[04:42] <cesarin> skinneable, can put things in order easily. etc.. :P
[04:42] <theconartist> tritium, because what you just mentioned does not do it
[04:42] <cesarin> c0rrupt_,  so I am  :P
[04:42] <WebLOCH> !smeg
[04:42] <ubotu> hmm... smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[04:42] <shaoqi> nomasteryoda, then is not possible to copy files into the hdd?
[04:42] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, the one and only user is the one you installed
[04:42] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, you mean to install?
[04:43] <cesarin> Btw, anyone else got these phyton update warnings that appareed a few minutes ago?
[04:43] <tritium> theconartist, it does, but what are you trying to do?
[04:43] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, user files go in your /home/shaqoi folders
[04:43] <shaoqi> nomasteryoda, not really install. i just want to move a file onto another hdd. but i was denied
[04:43] <theconartist> tritium, trying to setup my nic...
[04:43] <c0rrupt_> cafuego, whats the chmod commands to change permissions viewable to all users
[04:43] <tritium> be more specific, theconartist
[04:43] <theconartist> well, i cant use it right now
[04:43] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, if you mean to your windows drive, then no
[04:43] <theconartist> i want to use it
[04:43] <tritium> and explain what the gui config tool is not doing
[04:43] <NeoFax> Anyone know how to fix "No profile for user 'me' found" for KDM?
[04:43] <theconartist> tritium, not recognizing it
[04:43] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, no writing back to NTFS.. not safe
[04:43] <pgavin> why is it necessary to get a password for the freenx packages on http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/?
[04:44] <tritium> theconartist, which nic do you have, and is the proper module loaded?
[04:44] <shaoqi> nomasteryoda, ok. if i just want to move a file to my ubuntu drive?
[04:44] <NeoFax> I have read thru every Xsession file and none give this error.
[04:44] <Serenity-> is ubuntu a good starter distro, for a person new to linux ?
[04:44] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, you can copy but not move from the NTFS
[04:44] <theconartist> tritium, it's an intel, and yes
[04:44] <NeoFax> I can start KDE via the command line, but no window manager will start from KDM.
[04:44] <cesarin> Anyone knows if its VIABLE to update the phyton to  2.4.1-2.4.2.RC1-1 ?
[04:44] <shaoqi> nomasteryoda, i see. then how can i copy?
[04:45] <Earthen> Serenity-, yes it is I'm a noobie my self ony about a month now
[04:45] <tritium> theconartist, does ifconfig list it?
[04:45] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, but you have to set the read permissions for your standard user account.
[04:45] <nomasteryoda> you can do it via sudo
[04:45] <Serenity-> i've used linux in the past, but it was Mandrake =/
[04:45] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, copy that is
[04:45] <TokenBad> how you unzip or uncompress a bz2 file?
[04:45] <theconartist> tritium, it does now
[04:45] <theconartist> i fixed it
[04:45] <WebLOCH> will a deb install to a specific location or must i specify myself?
[04:45] <NeoFax> TokenBad: tar -xjvf file.bz2
[04:45] <cesarin> Anyone knows if its VIABLE to update the phyton to  2.4.1-2.4.2.RC1-1 ?
[04:45] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, sudo cp /mnt/hdd/filename /home/username/
[04:46] <tritium> theconartist, what did you do?
[04:46] <Earthen> Serenity-, yeah I tried red hat ,FC, mandrake, suse but I alway got fustrated and gave up untill i found ubuntu
[04:46] <shaoqi> ok, how to set the permission anyway?
[04:46] <cesarin> just want to be sure, because I think these updates appeared when I enabled "MULTIVERSE"
[04:46] <shaoqi> nomasteryoda, ok, how to set the permission anyway?
[04:46] <theconartist> tritium, system>configuration>networking
[04:46] <theconartist> and activated eth0
[04:46] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, looking at my own right now
[04:46] <Serenity-> the machine im going to be installing it to isnt the best, and i know that linux has problems with ATI graphics cards
[04:46] <Serenity-> i hope that it atleast recognizes it lol
[04:46] <hmrocha> i'm using gnome baker
[04:47] <tritium> theconartist, hmm, sounds familiar ;)
[04:47] <cesarin> serenity: using 64 bit mode is REALLY A PAIN in the ass for ATI :P
[04:47] <Madpilot> Serenity-: which ATI card?
[04:47] <theconartist> tritium, no it doesnt
[04:47] <Earthen> Serenity-,  well I have a ATI card
[04:47] <Serenity-> ati radeon 9200se
[04:47] <NeoFax> Anyone can help with KDM?
[04:47] <hmrocha> i want to burn an iso without creating an image first
[04:47] <cesarin> I had to update like 2-3 times of breezy badger to finally get something that detects it :>
[04:47] <hmrocha> i don't have enough disk space, is that possible?
[04:47] <theconartist> tritium, it is a different application from what you suggested
[04:47] <cesarin> breezy 32 bit detected my 9800 pro in an instant :>
[04:47] <Earthen> Serenity-, that should work no problem
[04:47] <cafuego_> Serenity-: a 9200se is supported by the open radeon driver, you should be fine.
[04:47] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, look at your /etc/fstab file
[04:47] <Madpilot> Serenity-: a 9200SE should be fine
[04:47] <sjj> Are there 'backports' for breezy ? It appears that breezy still only has mysql-4.1 which is pretty damn old.
[04:47] <cafuego_> Serenity-: My wife's mac mini has one and it runs just dandy.
[04:47] <theconartist> tritium, omfg lol sry
[04:47] <Serenity-> thanks for the help :) im downloading it now
[04:48] <Madpilot> Serenity-: I've got a 9600XT, it works great
[04:48] <theconartist> tritium, i didnt read the first time
[04:48] <theconartist> i thought you said somethign else
[04:48] <tritium> no worries
[04:48] <Serenity-> yeah, the guys are work are giving me a hard time saying linux isnt for girls lol
[04:48] <bigfoot1> i need to drag and drop a file into /usr/share/opera/styles, but i have no access. how do i do it the un-nerdy way?
[04:48] <Serenity-> are = at
[04:48] <Earthen> Serenity-, I just installed my 9700pro tonight all went fine no probs at all
[04:48] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, should have line similar to
[04:48] <nomasteryoda> /dev/hda4  /windows  vfat  defaults   0  0
[04:48] <Serenity-> awesome, yeah im testing it out on this computer, before I try to install it to my main pc
[04:49] <Serenity-> i play some games, so im going to see if i can get them running first
[04:49] <Madpilot> bigfoot1: use sudo before a mv command.
[04:49] <Serenity-> i don't wanna have to do a dual boot
[04:49] <shaoqi> nomasteryoda, i don't have that line
[04:49] <Phr0stByte> bigfoot1: "sudo nautilus"
[04:49] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, ok
[04:49] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, you add it easily....
[04:49] <Madpilot> bigfoot1: those directories are owned by root
[04:49] <bigfoot1> maddler, how do i do it without terminal? oh, i guess Phr0stByte answered my questions.
[04:49] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[04:49] <nomasteryoda> scroll down to bottom
[04:49] <Serenity-> this channel is really busy lol
[04:49] <Earthen> Serenity-, there's a good walk through in the ubuntu forms about installing ati drivers
[04:50] <vbgunz> hello everyone!
[04:50] <bonee> my GDM don't work anymore
[04:50] <Earthen> ati
[04:50] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, make the folder too
[04:50] <bonee> how can i fix it
[04:50] <Madpilot> Serenity-: this is pretty standard traffic here... ;)
[04:50] <Madpilot> !tell Serenity- about ati
[04:50] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, the mount point.... like /mnt/windows or /windows.... your preference
[04:50] <shaoqi> nomasteryoda, make the folder?
[04:50] <Serenity-> thanks Madpilot :)
[04:50] <vbgunz> anyone know how to run the desktop "clean up by name"?
[04:50] <vbgunz> automatically?
[04:50] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, after adding that line, saving and closing the file
[04:50] <pgavin> umm, what do I have to do to get a password for http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ to get the FreeNX packages?
[04:50] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, sudo mkdir /windows
[04:51] <cesarin> brb
[04:51] <vbgunz> some of my mount icons are almost always overlapping... its like madness with a method...
[04:51] <TokenBad> is cdemu able to get from apt-get?
[04:51] <nomasteryoda> Serenity-, i have been fighting getting ATI working on my other laptop
[04:51] <nomasteryoda> batting at windmills i have
[04:51] <Serenity-> only problem im going to have is that i play World of Warcraft and i heard getting games to run in linux is a pain
[04:52] <Serenity-> and then also, my online school requires Outlook Express for my classes
[04:52] <cafuego_> Serenity-: With a small purchase of 'Cedega' you should be fine.
[04:52] <Earthen> have anyone installed 3ddesktop
[04:52] <shaoqi> nomasteryoda, after making the folder, add what line you say?
[04:52] <Serenity-> purchase :(
[04:52] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, the line i mentioned
[04:52] <Serenity-> maybe i'll do the dual boot :)
[04:52] <shaoqi> /dev/hda4  /windows  vfat  defaults   0  0
[04:52] <Serenity-> or install a 2nd HD
[04:52] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, gedit /etc/fstab
[04:52] <shaoqi> is this the one?
[04:53] <bur[n] er> can anyone help me with some dpkg/apt problems when trying to go to breezy from debian unstable??
[04:53] <cafuego_> Serenity-: Do they require OE for any particular reason? There are other pop3/imap clients in Linux that are much nicer and more secure.
[04:53] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, then add the partition your windows is on....
[04:53] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, like /dev/hdd1 /windows vfat defaults   0  0
[04:53] <Serenity-> well on the edu site you have to click the links and it opens OE and adds the usergroups that way
[04:53] <bur[n] er> !pastebin
[04:53] <ubotu> pastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:53] <TokenBad> or anyone know how to mount an iso file in ubuntu?
[04:53] <Serenity-> so i'm not sure if i can set them up manually
[04:53] <bur[n] er> TokenBad: mount -t loop blah.iso
[04:54] <nomasteryoda> Serenity-, that is baddddd
[04:54] <bur[n] er> TokenBad: along those lines ;)  man mount
[04:54] <TokenBad> sorry ..what about bin or cue files
[04:54] <Serenity-> i'll just do the dual boot
[04:54] <Serenity-> leave like 10 gigs for windows
[04:54] <nomasteryoda> Serenity-, as in OE is the largest know spam attractor on the planet
[04:54] <cafuego_> Serenity-: Unless they do (very insecure) javascript malarkey, I expect it could be done manually.
[04:54] <Serenity-> rest for ubuntu
[04:54] <nomasteryoda> yea
[04:54] <bur[n] er> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2477  <--anyone know how to fix this dpkg error?
[04:54] <Serenity-> 11% done on the download lol
[04:55] <cafuego_> that remionds me i need colony4 for this imac
[04:55] <nomasteryoda> !tell shaoqi about windows
[04:55] <theconartist> grrr
[04:55] <nomasteryoda> lol
[04:55] <theconartist> apmd needs to die
[04:55] <nomasteryoda> !tell Serenity- about windows
[04:55] <nomasteryoda> Serenity-, there are some options...
[04:56] <nomasteryoda> theconartist, I agree
[04:56] <Serenity-> thanks :)
[04:56] <anethema> hey uhh, i upgraded my firefox with apt and it wont install themes now
[04:56] <anethema> when i click to install a new theme nothing happens :(
[04:56] <knuckles> how can i fix this problem i just tryed to update my systme and i got an error like this
[04:56] <BROKEN_LADDER> what is the name of the newish pdf viewer in gnome?
[04:56] <knuckles> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.08_all.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/X11/fonts', which is also in package xfonts-base
[04:56] <nomasteryoda> BROKEN_LADDER, evince?
[04:56] <shaoqi> nomasteryoda, where can i get VMware to run windows on linux?
[04:57] <cafuego_> BROKEN_LADDER: evince
[04:57] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, www.vmware.com
[04:57] <BROKEN_LADDER> thankyou
[04:57] <theconartist> wtf
[04:57] <theconartist> for some reason apm=off isn't working
[04:57] <knuckles> what does that mean?
[04:57] <nomasteryoda> theconartist, you need to turn off acpi too right?
[04:57] <knuckles> im new to the ubuntu scene
[04:57] <knuckles> :)
[04:57] <theconartist> nomasteryoda, did that too
[04:58] <theconartist> still being bad :(
[04:58] <durt> evince is slower than a monkey, use gv
[04:58] <shaoqi> nomasteryoda, there's so many to choose. which one? VMware workstation?
[04:58] <nomasteryoda> theconartist, yea, i noticed that earlier when trying to help someone with a laptop that would not boot SuSE or Ubuntu properly
[04:58] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, yes
[04:58] <nomasteryoda> workstation 5 is nice
[04:58] <nomasteryoda> i have that
[04:58] <theconartist> nomasteryoda, thats not my problem
[04:58] <nomasteryoda> k
[04:59] <theconartist> my problem is that my thinkpad r31's APM bios doesn't play nice with others
[04:59] <nomasteryoda> theconartist, breezy?
[04:59] <nomasteryoda> ah
[04:59] <theconartist> nomasteryoda, anything but windows
[04:59] <nomasteryoda> LOL
[04:59] <theconartist> no jokes
[04:59] <nomasteryoda> i agree there
[04:59] <nomasteryoda> totally
[04:59] <theconartist> and ever 1 minute my mouse darts and thinks randomly click/move
[04:59] <theconartist> my desktop gets defaced
[04:59] <theconartist> a new folder is created
[04:59] <theconartist> switches desktops
[04:59] <theconartist> all that good stuff
[05:00] <nomasteryoda> theconartist, I know what you are talking about
[05:00] <nalioth> well now
[05:00] <durt> you intolerant osists
[05:01] <Madpilot> "OSists"?
[05:01] <Wizzo> Can someone help me with my laptop touchpad?
[05:01] <cesarin> just cheked Gaim's proyect site
[05:01] <Wizzo> It randomly stops working.
[05:01] <cesarin> it does NOT support skins nor themes
[05:01] <nomasteryoda> Wizzo, is it an Alps or synaptic?
[05:01] <cesarin> just emoticons themes
[05:01] <BROKEN_LADDER> does anyone know this this terminology might mean if i'm configuring a dial tone?
[05:01] <BROKEN_LADDER> 350@-19,440@-19;10(*/0/1+2)
[05:01] <Wizzo> synaptic I think.
[05:01] <Earthen> has anyone managed to get 3ddesktop working
[05:02] <Wizzo> It only happens in Ubuntu.
[05:02] <durt> osist = person who doesnt like windows
[05:02] <nomasteryoda> Wizzo, you can install the qsynaptics package from apt-get repositories
[05:02] <carl> Why is it my browser always close?
[05:02] <nomasteryoda> !tell Wizzo about repos
[05:02] <Wizzo> And that should fix it?
[05:02] <nomasteryoda> Wizzo, what does it do?
[05:02] <carl> Why is it my browser always close??
[05:02] <cesarin> carl: check if your browser closes under certain circunstances
[05:02] <Wizzo> It just... stops.
[05:03] <Wizzo> Suddenly.
[05:03] <cesarin> like when navigating a site with java, or navigating a site with flash
[05:03] <Wizzo> Even the little thing in the middle of the keyboard.
[05:03] <nomasteryoda> Wizzo, does external mouse work?
[05:03] <Wizzo> Randomly.
[05:03] <carl> how?
[05:03] <Wizzo> I put in a usb one for now.
[05:03] <Wizzo> It works.
[05:03] <cesarin> carl: just visit a site like www.java.com
[05:03] <cesarin> java.com is CLEAN, but contains 1 java applet
[05:03] <cesarin> so if itsjava, it will crash there
[05:03] <nomasteryoda> Wizzo, Hoary or Breezy ?
[05:03] <cesarin> then go to www.eluniversal.com.mx
[05:03] <Wizzo> I'm using the preview ubuntu at the moment.
[05:03] <carl> when im using friendster.com
[05:03] <carl> and myspace.com
[05:03] <cesarin> if it crashes there, its then FLASH player
[05:03] <nomasteryoda> k
[05:03] <Wizzo> Breezy.
[05:03] <carl> my browser crashes
[05:04] <Wizzo> But it happens in all of them.
[05:04] <cesarin> carl: try the sites I told you
[05:04] <nomasteryoda> Wizzo, well that version is still development
[05:04] <Wizzo> It's just in breezy it seems to do it at startup.
[05:04] <cesarin> since sometimes are too mixed with plugins
[05:04] <nomasteryoda> Wizzo, what about hoary live?
[05:04] <carl> k w8
[05:04] <carl> it didnt crash
[05:04] <nomasteryoda> Wizzo, ok... mine works fine in breezy installed
[05:04] <Wizzo> Um... I'm not sure about the livecds.
[05:04] <TokenBad> can someone tell me what this means?: # you need the source of your current running kernel.
[05:04] <TokenBad> /lib/modules/$(shell uname -r)/build/include needs to point at it.
[05:04] <nomasteryoda> Wizzo, my Dell 4150 has synaptics
[05:04] <Wizzo> But I think it's all the same.
[05:05] <shaoqi> nomasteryoda, which im do you guys use on ubuntu usually?
[05:05] <nomasteryoda> gaim
[05:05] <Wizzo> It just happens at random.
[05:05] <carl> but when i logged on to friendster
[05:05] <carl> it crasher
[05:05] <carl> it crashes
[05:05] <Wizzo> I have a Dell Latitude C600
[05:05] <nomasteryoda> Wizzo, you sure it
[05:05] <nomasteryoda>  is not alps?
[05:05] <shaoqi> nomasteryoda, other than gaim?
[05:05] <nalioth> TokenBad: you need your kernel sources
[05:05] <Wizzo> Well not really.
[05:05] <Wizzo> How can I check?
[05:05] <nomasteryoda> Wizzo, cause this on I'm on is a D505 dell latitude.... has Alps
[05:05] <TokenBad> and ubuntu will not have that right?
[05:06] <nomasteryoda> Wizzo, just sec
[05:06] <Wizzo> In distros like Gentoo and such I just use the default settings.
[05:06] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, gaim is the best by far
[05:06] <Wizzo> Just with the device path changed.
[05:06] <theconartist> nomasteryoda, do you know what might be poking around with APM stuff?
[05:06] <theconartist> i disabled all the panel stuff
[05:06] <nomasteryoda> theconartist, thinking about that
[05:06] <theconartist> usually just getting rid of the battery manager does it
[05:06] <Flying-Penguin> guys
[05:06] <nomasteryoda> theconartist, i saw that before on someone's system
[05:06] <Flying-Penguin> when my computer started 3 apps crashed (one being workstation switcher)
[05:06] <TokenBad> nalioth, and ubuntu will not have that on my drive right?
[05:06] <pH[gnoppix] > Could someone help me out? I have a simple question about my monitor (CRT)-- I just started up Gnoppix on a Windows computer and for some reason has become a BIG eyestrain.
[05:06] <nalioth> TokenBad: use synaptic to install
[05:07] <Flying-Penguin> I disided to not restart
[05:07] <TokenBad> cdemu wasn't in that
[05:07] <Flying-Penguin> and now they don't start with our computers
[05:07] <Wizzo> I just hope I can get this working because Ubuntu seems to be a godsend distro.
[05:07] <Wizzo> Compiling takes sooo long. :/
[05:07] <nomasteryoda> Wizzo, it is nice
[05:07] <Wizzo> Yeah.
[05:07] <nomasteryoda> Wizzo, i am using Breezy on this dell d505 too
[05:07] <nomasteryoda> installed
[05:07] <nomasteryoda> works fine
[05:08] <Wizzo> Ok..
[05:08] <nomasteryoda> only don't have the vert/horz scroll on the alps touchpad... but works very good
[05:08] <pH[gnoppix] > :/
[05:08] <Flying-Penguin> anyone
[05:08] <Wizzo> Um.. so I should put these repositories in.
[05:08] <nomasteryoda> better than suse or windows
[05:08] <Flying-Penguin> ?
[05:08] <Wizzo> And install qsynaptics?
[05:08] <nomasteryoda> and they are on other partitions
[05:08] <windex> hey, im on the phone with someone having issues with screen resolution
[05:08] <nomasteryoda> Wizzo, i would
[05:08] <windex> is there a wiki page for fixing that?
[05:08] <Wizzo> Ok.
[05:08] <nomasteryoda> Wizzo, makes it easier
[05:08] <Madpilot> !+fixres
[05:08] <ubotu> fixres is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:08] <nomasteryoda> to configure
[05:08] <Wizzo> Thanks. I'll get back to you if it works... or not..
[05:09] <Madpilot> windex: see ubotu above ^^^
[05:09] <durt> gsynaptics it you have gtk
[05:09] <TokenBad> nalioth, cdemu wasn't in synaptic
[05:09] <windex> Madpilot, thanks
[05:09] <Flying-Penguin> ANYONE?
[05:09] <nomasteryoda> Wizzo, you can also install 855resolution to get nice 1400x1050
[05:09] <nomasteryoda> Flying-Penguin, why yell?
[05:09] <Wizzo> Oh.
[05:09] <Wizzo> Cool thanks.
[05:09] <nomasteryoda> busy channel
[05:09] <Wizzo> I thought I had it already. :S
[05:09] <nomasteryoda> Wizzo, look for Linux Laptops
[05:09] <nomasteryoda> on google
[05:10] <Wizzo> What for?
[05:10] <nomasteryoda> the dell laptops ...
[05:10] <Flying-Penguin> nomasteryoda: because I cant switch workstations/minimise to desktop/open already open apps (not counting alt+tab)
[05:10] <nalioth> TokenBad: i didnt send you after cdemu, i sent you for the kernel sources for your machine
[05:10] <nomasteryoda> that model
[05:10] <Flying-Penguin> nomasteryoda: and you guys aren't helping, therefor I yell
[05:10] <Madpilot> Wizzo: also search the Ubuntu wiki, there's a large laptop testing project ongoing and someone might just have the same machine as you...
[05:10] <Wizzo> Ok cool.
[05:10] <nomasteryoda> Flying-Penguin, we are kinda busy atm
[05:10] <Wizzo> Thanks.
[05:10] <nomasteryoda> but we'll try
[05:10] <tritium> Wizzo, which laptop?
[05:11] <nomasteryoda> thanks Madpilot
[05:11] <durt> flying-penguin: therefore use google
[05:11] <nomasteryoda> forgot about that d600
[05:11] <Wizzo> Dell LAtitude C600
[05:11] <Flying-Penguin> durt: ok, what should I search for!?
[05:11] <nomasteryoda> c yea
[05:11] <tritium> Wizzo, what's the problem?
[05:11] <TokenBad> nalioth, ohhhhh
[05:11] <Flying-Penguin> durt: google is worthless if you don't know what to search for
[05:11] <Wizzo> Inbuilt mouse stops working at random times.
[05:11] <nomasteryoda> tritium, slashes dell again
[05:11] <Wizzo> But only on Ubuntu.
[05:12] <Flying-Penguin> durt: not to menction there are plenty of smart people right here where I could get real time support, therefor google is worthless
[05:12] <nomasteryoda> tritium, he's using Live disk breezy
[05:12] <tritium> nomasteryoda, thanks for the info.  What do you mean "slashes"?
[05:12] <TokenBad> nalioth, this the one I need: Linux kernel source for version 2.4.27 with Debian patches
[05:12] <theconartist> grr
[05:12] <Wizzo> Live disk?
[05:12] <Wizzo> It's installed.
[05:12] <theconartist> i dont think i have the kernel parameter right
[05:13] <tritium> Wizzo, I have a Dell C800, and might be able to help.
[05:13] <nomasteryoda> tritium, thought you said that's the problem... to Wizzo ... sorry
[05:13] <nomasteryoda> Wizzo, ok
[05:13] <Wizzo> If you can help that'd be great.
[05:13] <nomasteryoda> Wizzo, have you updated?
[05:13] <nalioth> TokenBad: type in a terminal "uname -a" and find the source for the kernel you are running and get it
[05:13] <Wizzo> Updating now.
[05:13] <Wizzo> 200 megs though...
[05:13] <Wizzo> Be a bit.
[05:13] <nomasteryoda> lol
[05:14] <nomasteryoda> i do that every other day almost
[05:14] <nomasteryoda> 2 laptops
[05:14] <IcemanV9> anyone have mute button working on hp laptop?? i'm using hoary right now.
[05:14] <Wizzo> An hour to go.
[05:14] <Versed`> anyone know how to install java?
[05:14] <tritium> Wizzo, your mouse intermittently fails?
[05:14] <nomasteryoda> wow
[05:14] <tritium> !tell Versed about java
[05:14] <nomasteryoda> tritium, yes
[05:14] <knuckles> can someone please send me a copy of a /usr/lib/X11/fonts file.. i kinda erased mine :-)
[05:14] <nomasteryoda> that is his issue
[05:14] <Wizzo> Intermittently?
[05:14] <nomasteryoda> like randomly
[05:14] <tritium> Wizzo, intermitten failures could be a hardware problem
[05:14] <TokenBad> nalioth, Linux 2.6.10-5-386  is what it says..but don't see the source for 2.6.10 listed
[05:15] <durt> versed': add: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted, and deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted to /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:15] <Wizzo> I don't see how though.
[05:15] <Wizzo> It only ever happens on Ubuntu.
[05:15] <kritty> Hey all.... I'm getting an error about xfonts not being able to update.... any ideas?
[05:15] <tritium> TokenBad, it's called linux-source-2.6.10
[05:15] <tritium> What do you need it for?
[05:15] <TokenBad> nalioth, found it..thats why
[05:15] <TokenBad> I did search for kernel first
[05:15] <xfxf___> yo, i'm having problems with a system i just upgraded hoary -> breezy, dpkg is totally screwing up with " x-common conflicts with xfree86-common", any ideas?
[05:15] <TokenBad> and it didn't find it
[05:15] <locomorto> durt: is this for Java/libdvdcss2?
[05:15] <Wizzo> I've tried every distro on this thing you can think so and some Windows versions.
[05:15] <nomasteryoda> Wizzo, if it works with say Mepis live disk or hoary and doesn't fail, then it's not hardware
[05:15] <Wizzo> They always work fine.
[05:15] <Flying-Penguin> durt: ohh fun, I tryed google and I didn't get my answer, isn't that fun, all the sudden I feal happy I did...
[05:15] <locomorto> xfxf___: do a clean install
[05:15] <nomasteryoda> Wizzo, kernel modules i'd bet...
[05:16] <Wizzo> I don't think it happens on the live disk..
[05:16] <tritium> Wizzo, then please explain better what happens specifically i ubuntu
[05:16] <nomasteryoda> Wizzo, did you go to support.dell.com and look up what hardware it shipped with?
[05:16] <kritty> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.08_all.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/X11/fonts', which is also in package xfonts-base
[05:16] <Wizzo> I don't know how to explain it.
[05:16] <Wizzo> I'll just be using it and it'll just stop.
[05:16] <Wizzo> Sometime after a minute.
[05:16] <Wizzo> Sometimes after hours.
[05:16] <kritty> what does it mean?
[05:16] <tritium> That is what we'd call intermittent, Wizzo
[05:16] <nalioth> kritty: you may force your machine at the risk of breaking it, or wait for an update
[05:17] <Wizzo> I'll check the specs of the laptop.
[05:17] <nomasteryoda> kritty, i had that happen too
[05:17] <kritty> thanks nalioth
[05:17] <kritty> I'll wait
[05:17] <durt> locomorto: its for the stuff in hoary extras and backports, including jre and jdk
[05:17] <nomasteryoda> i'm waiting too
[05:17] <knuckles> i got the same problem
[05:17] <tritium> just be patient, breezy users
[05:17] <knuckles> just diselect the xcommon
[05:17] <kritty> nomasteryoda
[05:17] <knuckles> when updating
[05:17] <codomaniac> breezy is safe to switch now :) ?
[05:17] <kritty> thanks
[05:17] <xfxf___> locomorto: surely there's a different answer?  upgradability is a major reason i use ubuntu/debian, instead of something like fedora
[05:17] <nomasteryoda> ah.... the breezy winds of change
[05:17] <Flying-Penguin> well... some programs of mine crashed on startup and I chose not to restart them and now they don't start with my computer
[05:17] <kritty> tritium ksmurf says hello
[05:17] <locomorto> durt: there not there anymore (Java/libdvdcss2)
[05:17] <nomasteryoda> codomaniac, er, i like it
[05:18] <tritium> kritty, greetings to ksmurf.  Might you be his wife?
[05:18] <codomaniac> nomasteryoda, it is stable :) ?
[05:18] <locomorto> xfxf___:you can upgrade fedora easily enough
[05:18] <nomasteryoda> codomaniac, seems very much so to me....
[05:18] <kritty> yes.... pity me?
[05:18] <locomorto> xfxf___: and for now, thats the problem
[05:18] <nomasteryoda> IMHO
[05:18] <durt> locomorto: really? when'd that happen?
[05:18] <IcemanV9> codomaniac: not really .. you could wait 'til next month like i do
[05:18] <locomorto> xfxf___: we moved to a modalised x.org
[05:18] <nomasteryoda> codomaniac, but updates break things...
[05:18] <tritium> kritty, heh
[05:18] <locomorto> durt: not sure, but it happend
[05:18] <Wizzo> I'll check the kernel.
[05:18] <nomasteryoda> codomaniac, like your customized xorg file
[05:18] <Wizzo> You compile it just like any other distro right?
[05:18] <kritty> bbl
[05:19] <xfxf___> locomorto: yeah, but i upgraded hoary->breezy on the machine i'm on right now and it worked fine
[05:19] <Versed`> durt, get nothing
[05:19] <xfxf___> i'm just having problems galore on another machine
[05:19] <xfxf___> surely there's a solution?
[05:19] <nomasteryoda> codomaniac, or wireless ndiswrapper build
[05:19] <Flying-Penguin> well... some programs of mine crashed on startup and I chose not to restart them and now they don't start with my computer
[05:19] <codomaniac> hmm...
[05:19] <locomorto> xfxf___: the dependices haven't been sorted out yet
[05:19] <TokenBad> nalioth, if I do that to install the sources..do I still need to point to them
[05:19] <locomorto> xfxf___: And you are probably missing a few things here and there
[05:19] <TokenBad> like that line said?
[05:19] <cesarin> well anyway later guys, thanks a lot for the help!!!
[05:19] <locomorto> xfxf___: For now, if you want breezy, a clean install is the best way to get it
[05:20] <xfxf___> locomorto: no, apt-get -u dist-upgrade claims there's nothing else to install
[05:20] <xfxf___> ok, sigh, fair enough
[05:20] <durt> versed`: here then: http://serios.net/content/debian/java/with-java-package.php
[05:20] <locomorto> xfxf___: In future, make sure to make a home partition
[05:20] <nalioth> TokenBad: no you do not
[05:20] <locomorto> xfxf___: it makes upgrading so much easier
[05:20] <cafuego_> tritium: That's going to make them completely useless as code talkers during the US-EU wars of 2011
[05:20] <nalioth> TokenBad: the line assumes you have them in a nonstandard place
[05:20] <Flying-Penguin> well... some programs of mine crashed on startup and I chose not to restart them and now they don't start with my computer
[05:20] <xfxf___> i already do that.  this just defeats a major reason i've stuck with debian-based distros
[05:21] <xfxf___> but, fair enough, thanks.
[05:21] <tritium> cafuego, let's hope it never comes to that
[05:21] <IcemanV9> but, tritium, it is not live, isn't it?
[05:21] <cafuego_> tritium: Hmmm, possibly.
[05:21] <TokenBad> well just tried to run make like it said
[05:21] <nomasteryoda> Flying-Penguin, like which programs?
[05:21] <tritium> IcemanV9, the game?  Yes, it is.
[05:21] <nomasteryoda> helps to know
[05:21] <TokenBad> nalioth, well just tried to run make like it said and it gave me an error
[05:21] <durt> the us will RAPE europe
[05:22] <tritium> durt, stop
[05:22] <IcemanV9> tritium: wicked
[05:22] <nalioth> TokenBad: you also need kernel headers
[05:22] <locomorto> you guys are pitiful, AFL is the best sport out there ;)
[05:22] <locomorto> Our grand final is today as well
[05:22] <cafuego_> locomorto: bloody wog
[05:22] <Flying-Penguin> nomasteryoda: I didn't memorize them, but they are all on my "stat bar" I don't see my workstation switcher, or my task bar (where all open programs are), and the buttons that lets me minimize to desktop
[05:23] <nomasteryoda> guys, #ubuntu-offtopic is the channel for that stuff
[05:23] <locomorto> cafuego_: Its an AUSTRALIAN sport ;)
[05:23] <tritium> locomorto, what's AFL?
[05:23] <nalioth> locomorto: in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[05:23] <cafuego_> locomorto: flying birds or swimming birds?
[05:23] <nomasteryoda> Flying-Penguin, you can just add them again
[05:23] <Flying-Penguin> nomasteryoda: ok... what are they called
[05:23] <Flying-Penguin> nomasteryoda: and I don't know where they where befor
[05:23] <nomasteryoda> Flying-Penguin, you right-click the taskbar at the top (usually)
[05:23] <theconartist> grr wtf
[05:23] <theconartist> i cant figure this out
[05:24] <cafuego_> tritium: it's a sport where men in very tight shorts bash eachother up in public and on occasion kick an egg shaped ball.
[05:24] <Flying-Penguin> nomasteryoda: my taskbar is at the bottom, but anywho
[05:24] <nomasteryoda> Flying-Penguin, ok
[05:24] <tritium> cafuego, heh, not a fan, eh?
[05:24] <nomasteryoda> Flying-Penguin, you can choose to add another panel
[05:24] <nomasteryoda> Flying-Penguin, then add the applets to it
[05:25] <kevin06> What was the official reason for Ubuntu's break in Debian compatibility?
[05:25] <shaoqi> how to force an app to close, my gedit seems to be having some problems
[05:25] <cafuego_> tritium: it's not much less boring than golf.
[05:25] <IcemanV9> shaoqi: pkill -9 gedit
[05:25] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, xkill
[05:25] <nomasteryoda> or that
[05:25] <cafuego_> tritium: I also live near a stadium, and whenever there's a game on, the punters park where they ought not, make noise and piss on houses and gardens.
[05:26] <tritium> ick
[05:26] <knewt> anyone else had any issues with an inspiron 6000 locking up hard a few seconds into the gnome logon sequence (whilst it's playing audio), with nothing in the log files to show for it?
[05:26] <nomasteryoda> cafuego, gardens need that ... at least azaleas benefit from it
[05:26] <cafuego_> even dogs are not that bad
[05:26] <nomasteryoda> prevents fungi growth
[05:26] <shaoqi> thankks
[05:26] <cafuego_> nomasteryoda: The lemon tree is in the OTHER garden ;-)
[05:26] <nomasteryoda> LOL
[05:26] <Flying-Penguin> nomasteryoda: ty, I am going to restart X and see if they come up again
[05:27] <nomasteryoda> crud
[05:27] <Wizzo> The Dell list said the touchpad worked fine for them.. :/
[05:27] <Wizzo> That doesn't sound good on my part.
[05:27] <nomasteryoda> I hope he told it to save the configuration
[05:27] <ongster> how do i make thunderbird my default instead of evolution?
[05:27] <sambagirl> breezy update did everything accourding to instructoins everything go ok but still not say breezy. oh well i try again later.
[05:28] <nomasteryoda> Wizzo, wait until you get the latest kernel... installed and booted
[05:28] <nalioth> sambagirl: breezy wont say breezy until oct 13, most likely
[05:28] <Flying-Penguin> nomasteryoda: ty
[05:28] <nomasteryoda> np
[05:28] <barosl> when apache display Indexes, it restricts maximum length of title. how can i relieve this setting?
[05:28] <sambagirl> ahh
[05:28] <tritium> sambagirl, lsb_release -a says what?
[05:28] <theconartist> nomasteryoda, ok, i found the kernel parameter that SHOULD work
[05:28] <sambagirl> what i type to find out versoin?
[05:28] <nomasteryoda> xx fingers
[05:29] <sambagirl> i did gnome about it doesnt say breezy
[05:29] <theconartist> NOOOOOOOO!!!!
[05:29] <theconartist> it doesnt :(
[05:29] <sambagirl> can i type ver somwhere?
[05:29] <sambagirl> oh well.
[05:30] <Wizzo> If I cancel the download of the updates I can resume it after right?
[05:30] <nomasteryoda> theconartist, just sec
[05:30] <sambagirl> it wont say ubuntu anuymore? it say breezy?
[05:30] <nomasteryoda> sambagirl, open a terminal window
[05:30] <sambagirl> heh
[05:30] <nomasteryoda> lsb_release -a
[05:30] <sambagirl> sneezy breezy snoopy, slouchy, sloppy, burpy, slurpy sounds like snow white
[05:30] <nomasteryoda> Dapper Drake is next one
[05:31] <nomasteryoda> =)
[05:31] <IcemanV9> didn't know that irssi part of default installation?? cool.
[05:31] <sambagirl> says 5.04
[05:32] <nomasteryoda> hoary then
[05:32] <sambagirl> how do i see how much space i have on m drive?
[05:32] <Edu> Hi all. I am new here. Is it here where I could have some help with my installation?
[05:32] <nomasteryoda> sambagirl, df -Th
[05:32] <sambagirl> ah cool
[05:32] <sambagirl> i had enough space
[05:32] <nomasteryoda> Edu, you just ask your question
[05:32] <sambagirl> your very bright
[05:33] <nomasteryoda> thnks
[05:33] <nomasteryoda> =)
[05:33] <sambagirl> must be brasilian
[05:33] <sambagirl> ;D
[05:33] <sambagirl> ok game time chao
[05:33] <nomasteryoda> chao
[05:33] <drsynackuator> everyone order their breezy CDs!!!
[05:33] <nomasteryoda> ok
[05:33] <fossa> hi, i'm having a problem with my install of breezy. it wants to upgrade x-common from1.06 to 1.08 but i get an error every time.
[05:34] <fossa> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.08_all.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/X11/fonts', which is also in package xfonts-base
[05:34] <gxc> me too
[05:34] <nomasteryoda> fossa, just wait on the next upgrade
[05:34] <Amaranth> file a bug report and don't upgrade that package until it's fixed
[05:34] <nomasteryoda> fossa, we have been having that issue today
[05:35] <nalioth> Amaranth: that bug has been asked about nigh on 100 times already tonight
[05:35] <theconartist> is there a problem with the ubuntu repo for breezy?
[05:35] <fossa> i c
[05:35] <crimsun> theconartist: a problem?
[05:35] <Amaranth> nalioth: I think another person is about to ask. ;)
[05:36] <nomasteryoda> theconartist, just that it is in constant development and changes rapidly
[05:36] <theconartist> crimsun, nvm
[05:36] <theconartist> wait nope
[05:36] <Edu> Ok!... I have a Toshiba 325CDS and I installed the brezzy 5.1 from a image cd... after cd is done and machine try to boot by the hard disk I got a /dev/hda1 not found
[05:36] <crafteh> My friend said there is some apt server that has all kinds of packages that the main one doesn't ... like sun's java jre/jdk ... how do I add this server and find out about it?
[05:36] <poyie> ei!! can u pls help me how to install plugins in firefox
[05:36] <nomasteryoda> crimsun, how can theconartist turn off apm? it seems to be an issue for him
[05:36] <nomasteryoda> breezy that is he is using
[05:36] <Amaranth> crafteh: due to legal issues it doesn't exist anymore
[05:37] <Amaranth> crafteh: well, it exists but it doesn't have that stuff on it
[05:37] <Edu> Actually it is " Alert! /dev/hda1 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!"   Why is that?
[05:37] <BlueEagle> Nice. Opera 8.5 is now free (as in free beer).
[05:37] <crafteh> ah... I heard its not "official"... but that there is still one?
[05:37] <BlueEagle> Yes, the advertisments are gone.
[05:37] <durt> why do the fonts look worse in the debian sid version of opera as opposed to the ubuntu version
[05:37] <Serenity-> is there any other way to run games other than paying for Cedega ?
[05:37] <shaoqi> i tried to install codec, but i met with some errors
[05:37] <theconartist> nomasteryoda, i just removed ampd
[05:37] <nomasteryoda> BlueEagle, nice
[05:37] <nomasteryoda> ok
[05:37] <ghel> mga gago
[05:37] <shaoqi> i followed https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats instructions
[05:37] <Amaranth> crafteh: there isn't one that i'm aware of, the one that had them is gone
[05:37] <fossa> i'm also having a problem getting xfce4-themes
[05:38] <shaoqi> but it says w32codecs couldnt be found
[05:38] <nomasteryoda> Serenity-, you can install winex using the svn method....
[05:38] <theconartist> but for some ugly reason i have to remove ubuntu-desktop with it which supposedly "can cause problems" according to it's pkg info
[05:38] <nomasteryoda> but not that easy
[05:38] <fossa> it depdnds on xfce4-panel , so quits, but i have xfce4-panel installled
[05:38] <shaoqi> what's wrong?
[05:38] <crafteh> Amaranth: ok thanks
[05:38] <Serenity-> ive used svn on my winbox before
[05:38] <nomasteryoda> Serenity-, ok
[05:38] <crafteh> How can I get mysql 4.3 from apt?
[05:38] <Serenity-> not the easiest though lol
[05:38] <nomasteryoda> Serenity-, i got it on this one before moving to hoary
[05:38] <crafteh> it seems to only have 4.0 :\
[05:39] <Amaranth> Serenity-: join #cedega, they should be able to help you with that
[05:39] <eagleye> Im new, can someone help me, need help bad
[05:39] <Serenity-> Amaranth: thanks :)
[05:39] <nomasteryoda> Amaranth, thanks
[05:39] <ColonelKernel> for instance - why doesnt glxgears give you any output in the text window?
[05:39] <Amaranth> crafteh: 4.3 isn't packaged for ubuntu yet, appearently
[05:39] <Amaranth> ColonelKernel: known bug
[05:39] <[Lut] > whenever i try adding an icon to the desktop, it never appears - but if i look in the desktop folder the link icon is definately there
[05:39] <nomasteryoda> eagleye, just ask the question
[05:39] <nomasteryoda> someone will try
[05:39] <crimsun> fossa: where did you install xfce4-themes?
[05:39] <ColonelKernel> and theres no link to Open Terminal with you right click on the desktop
[05:39] <Amaranth> ColonelKernel: though the output it gave was worthless anyway
[05:39] <shaoqi> i tried to install codec, but i met with some errors
[05:39] <eagleye> dont know where to start, linux is extremely new to me..
[05:39] <shaoqi> i followed https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats instructions
[05:39] <nalioth> ColonelKernel: that is a gnome decision
[05:39] <shaoqi> but it says w32codecs couldnt be found
[05:39] <ColonelKernel> Amaranth, maybe to you, I found it informative.
[05:39] <theconartist> NO EVIL
[05:39] <fossa> crimsun it did not install; it refuses.
[05:39] <theconartist> DIE EVIL
[05:39] <durt> fossa, i get that error too :(
[05:40] <Amaranth> ColonelKernel: nautilus-open-terminal package
[05:40] <theconartist> its still doing it
[05:40] <theconartist> omg
[05:40] <nomasteryoda> !newbies
[05:40] <ubotu> nomasteryoda: What?
[05:40] <tritium> doing what, theconartist ?
[05:40] <crafteh> Amaranth: sorry for all these newb questions... I'm switching from Gentoo so I don't know much about apt... does apt have stable/unstable versions of software like gentooo's portage system?
[05:40] <Amaranth> ColonelKernel: how so? it's not a benchmarking tool
[05:40] <crimsun> fossa: that doesn't answer my question regarding the package's origin
[05:40] <nalioth> crafteh: no
[05:40] <theconartist> tritium, using apm
[05:40] <Amaranth> ColonelKernel: it's mostly used to make sure hardware acceleration is working, which you can see by watching the gears themselves
[05:40] <ColonelKernel> Amaranth, it is in its own way.
[05:40] <crafteh> nalioth: thanks
[05:40] <tritium> crafteh, there's a stable release, and a release currently under development
[05:40] <crimsun> fossa: furthermore, please answer that question for xfce4-panel
[05:40] <eagleye> What is x window
[05:40] <ColonelKernel> it will let you know how efficiently its working
[05:40] <fossa> in synaptic, i clicked the box to install xfce4-panel
[05:41] <nalioth> crafteh: you have to go out of your way to get "unstable" stuff
[05:41] <Serenity-> xwindows is the desktop enviroment
[05:41] <fossa> when i click the box on xfce-themes it says "requires but will not install xfce-panel"
[05:41] <nomasteryoda> eagleye, your GUI ... where you mouse around... =)
[05:41] <eagleye> I cant figure out how to install programs and stuff..
[05:41] <durt> xfce-panel is version 4.2.2, but the themes require only 4.0.0, does this mean the themes are too old?
[05:41] <nalioth> !tell eagleye about synaptic
[05:42] <poyie> how to install tar.gz?
[05:42] <poyie> how to install tar.gz?
[05:42] <poyie> how to install tar.gz?
[05:42] <eagleye> I did figure that out somewhat
[05:42] <poyie> how to install tar.gz?
[05:42] <poyie> how to install tar.gz?
[05:42] <codomaniac> ???
[05:42] <tritium> poyie, please stop that
[05:42] <Serenity-> synaptic is your friend
[05:42] <Serenity-> you learn that reading the documents
[05:42] <Serenity-> poyie .. asking once is enough
[05:42] <codomaniac> untar it man poyie
[05:42] <Serenity-> tar -xvf filename.tar
[05:42] <Serenity-> or something
[05:42] <eagleye> How do you install something like Yahoo messenger that I downloaded
[05:42] <Serenity-> tar -xvf filename.tar.gz
[05:42] <Serenity-> sorry
[05:43] <nomasteryoda> eagleye, why not just use gaim?
[05:43] <tritium> eagleye, you know that gaim supports yahoo messenger protocol?
[05:43] <tristanmike> eagleye, Gaim is MSN, Yahoo, etc
[05:43] <knuckles> where can i find info on ubuntu repository?
[05:43] <nomasteryoda> even jabber which is the gmail chat
[05:43] <locomorto> !repository
[05:43] <ubotu> locomorto: Are you smoking crack?
[05:43] <nomasteryoda> !tell knuckles about repos
[05:43] <knuckles> thank you
[05:43] <nomasteryoda> np
[05:43] <eagleye> Ok, not tried that yet
[05:43] <Serenity-> woohoo 1 hour to go on my download lol
[05:44] <Serenity-> big file :)
[05:44] <smx> egad .. has anyone else had cd burner problems with a 2.6 version kernel? Please... help....
[05:44] <vg3> no
[05:44] <fossa> well thanks anyway
[05:44] <IcemanV9> 1 hr? you're on dial-up?
[05:44] <nomasteryoda> Serenity-, you in Wisconsin?
[05:44] <Serenity-> no, my cable connection is shared with my entire apartment complex
[05:44] <eagleye> Is there anything that I should get to help me get used to this, I am a diehard windows user, until my drive blew up
[05:44] <Serenity-> nomasteryoda: Illinois
[05:44] <nomasteryoda> k
[05:45] <nomasteryoda> well that was kinda close
[05:45] <Serenity-> not too far :)
[05:45] <nomasteryoda> madisonriver
[05:45] <nalioth> eagleye: library books
[05:45] <eagleye> lol
[05:45] <Serenity-> yeah, my cable company is a subsidary of their's
[05:45] <nomasteryoda> georgia here
[05:45] <Madpilot> !tell eagleye about docs
[05:45] <nomasteryoda> nalioth, LOL
[05:46] <linner> nalioth: hey there
[05:46] <nomasteryoda> some libraries are just too darn behind the times on Linux books... but the basics are there in most
[05:46] <IcemanV9> Serenity-: i'm from roselle .. you?
[05:46] <nomasteryoda> even with old unix books
[05:46] <Serenity-> normal
[05:46] <Amaranth> poyie: please don't spam with repeat messages anymore
[05:46] <Serenity-> well bloomington/normal
[05:46] <smx> no more "hdx=ide-scsi" ...  but how do you find the scsi interface to the drive?  I know this will be ignored, but I am so frustrated ...
[05:46] <theconartist> omg im mother freakin mad
[05:46] <linner> ooohhh I'm so frustrated.... one full week of trying to get a friggin' distro on my system... and the only two that work are MEPIS (which I hate) and SuSE which I can't figure out
[05:46] <linner> :(
[05:46] <linner> I want UBUNTU!!!!
[05:46] <IcemanV9> yep. knew where is normal. ;)
[05:46] <nomasteryoda> Serenity-, been thru bloomington
[05:47] <tritium> linner, have you tried breezy?
[05:47] <theconartist> apmd is gone, acpi=off, but it still does it
[05:47] <Serenity-> its nice and quiet here :)
[05:47] <Serenity-> cept for the random shootings lol
[05:47] <afaik> ookay guys... I have video problems and want to fix this damn problem tonight...
[05:47] <Madpilot> There's an actual town called Normal? That's... abnormal...
[05:47] <Madpilot> ;)
[05:47] <nomasteryoda> Serenity-, yikes
[05:47] <afaik> videos play just fine, but...
[05:47] <nalioth> Madpilot: several
[05:47] <Serenity-> lol yeah my town is called normal :)
[05:47] <eagleye> Where is there a good place to get stuff for unbuntu
[05:47] <Serenity-> better than Mianus
[05:47] <afaik> awhile in, it gets chopy, slows down, and the processor goes into overtime
[05:47] <Madpilot> Serenity-: and is it?
[05:47] <afaik> this is unnacceptable :(
[05:47] <Serenity-> i'd hate to live in Mianus
[05:47] <nomasteryoda> LOL
[05:47] <wasabi> Um. I'n trying to compile a program which links against ffmpeg. It requires avformat.h, which is fine, libavformat-dev, however it can't link against the symbols... there is no shared lib.
[05:47] <nomasteryoda> ROTF
[05:47] <Serenity-> Madpilot: no, far from it :)
[05:47] <wasabi> ffmpeg doesn't include one.
[05:47] <Madpilot> eagleye: see the msg that ubotu sent you a minute or so ago...
[05:48] <wasabi> there is no libavformat package
[05:48] <afaik> I have to keep stopping, restarting, and skopping to where it began skipping to finish watching
[05:48] <afaik> wtf?
[05:48] <Chii_Chan> hello
[05:48] <Serenity-> its hard to keep up in here, feels like im in a XDCC channel on dalnet
[05:48] <Serenity-> lol
[05:48] <nomasteryoda> afaik, you might want to turn on dma
[05:48] <nomasteryoda> hehe
[05:48] <Amaranth> afaik: what player?
[05:48] <IcemanV9> is everyone using Ubuntu in your apt complex, Serenity- ?? otherwise, they cannot use your bandwidth. :P
[05:49] <nomasteryoda> afaik, IMHO xine is good on ubuntu
[05:49] <Serenity-> no they arent
[05:49] <Amaranth> Serenity-: this is why when you are talking to someone you put their name before the message, like i'm doing right now with you
[05:49] <Wizzo> nomasteryoda, fixed it.
[05:49] <Wizzo> Touchpad now works.
[05:49] <afaik> using_dma    =  1 (on)
[05:49] <afaik> noatun
[05:49] <nomasteryoda> Wizzo, good
[05:49] <Serenity-> Amaranth: yeah nick complete is nice :)
[05:49] <nomasteryoda> Wizzo, the updates?
[05:49] <Wizzo> Just changed the xorg config.
[05:49] <Wizzo> No.
[05:49] <nomasteryoda> ok
[05:49] <Wizzo> They're still going.
[05:49] <nomasteryoda> yea that makes sense
[05:49] <Wizzo> I'm not using synaptics driver.
[05:49] <Serenity-> IcemanV9: what do you mean thay cant use my bandwidth?
[05:49] <afaik> any reason why it does this?
[05:50] <crimsun> wasabi: did it pull in libavcodec-dev and libpostproc-dev?
[05:50] <Wizzo> Now it works fine. And the sensitivity doesnt change,
[05:50] <Wizzo> So it's good.
[05:50] <wasabi> Yes. I have the -devs
[05:50] <Wizzo> Thanks for the help.
[05:50] <wasabi> There are no actual shared libs though
[05:50] <nomasteryoda> afaik, I've never gotten  noatun to work properly
[05:50] <afaik> now I cannot play it all
[05:50] <wasabi> It compiles, but doesn't link.
[05:50] <nomasteryoda> np
[05:50] <afaik> piece of crap
[05:50] <afaik> I will try xine
[05:50] <eagleye> I want to know how to install things, example yahoo,  says to login as root then type a command then run a thing in x window, I dont understand this..
[05:50] <Chii_Chan> try typing sudo and then the command
[05:50] <afaik> Reading package lists... Done
[05:50] <afaik> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:50] <afaik> Package xine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[05:50] <afaik> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[05:50] <afaik> is only available from another source
[05:50] <nomasteryoda> afaik, also add the extra repos  - restricted, etc..
[05:50] <Chii_Chan> worked for me o.o
[05:51] <IcemanV9> Serenity-: heh. share your cable connection with everyone in the apt complex. they all should be required to use Ubuntu. ... nah, never mind.
[05:51] <Madpilot> !tell eagleye about synaptic
[05:51] <Wizzo> I do have another question though. How do I change what programs start at startup?
[05:51] <esac> make dep is unnecessary now ?
[05:51] <theconartist> nomasteryoda, what is the kernel parameter for disabling acpi, acpi=off?
[05:51] <nomasteryoda> !tell afaik about repos
[05:51] <Wizzo> I don't need things like spufreq and ntp.
[05:51] <Serenity-> acpi=off
[05:51] <Wizzo> And they fail anyway.
[05:51] <nomasteryoda> theconartist, yes
[05:51] <afaik> I got all the repos
[05:51] <nalioth> Wizzo: system > prefs > sessions
[05:51] <Wizzo> Ok.
[05:51] <nomasteryoda> afaik, apt-get update
[05:51] <Wizzo> Thanks.
[05:51] <theconartist> nomasteryoda, damnit, then what is going on :(
[05:51] <afaik> Serenity-, yeah, how can I turn acpi off? or does it need to be on? for my laptop?
[05:51] <smx> apt-get implode
[05:51] <afaik> nomasteryoda, I already did that
[05:51] <tritium> theconartist, stay calm.  It'll be okay.  Take a deep breath
[05:51] <afaik> I needed to get w32 codecs
[05:51] <nomasteryoda> afaik, then xine should be there...
[05:52] <nomasteryoda> yes
[05:52] <nomasteryoda> i'm gonna go kill some tanks... bbl
[05:52] <durt> what game nomasteryoda?
[05:52] <crimsun> wasabi: where does it barf? which -l?
[05:52] <theconartist> tritium, no it wont!!!!11!1one!
[05:52] <afaik> my sound server crashed
[05:53] <Wizzo> nalioth, there is nothing in the startup menu.
[05:53] <afaik> I installes xine-ui
[05:53] <wasabi> crimsun, not sure... i gues it might be a build error, which is fine, I just need to know what -l I should fix it with
[05:53] <wasabi>  -lmp3lame -lavcodec -lcrypto -lmysqlclient -ldl -lz -ljpeg
[05:53] <wasabi> zm_mpeg.o(.text+0x7): In function `VideoStream::Initialise()':
[05:53] <Serenity-> man downloading at 90 KB/sec isnt fun
[05:53] <nalioth> !tell Wizzo about bum
[05:54] <Wizzo> Thanks.
[05:54] <Edu> Folks, I downloaded the Ubuntu 5.10 "The Breezy Badger" Preview Release my machine does not boot after I installed it from cd
[05:54] <eagleye> Where can I get different backgrounds and stuff?
[05:54] <Chii_Chan> anyone here know much about ndiswrapper? >.<
[05:54] <Serenity-> Edu: more info please :)
[05:54] <tritium> Edu, what happens?  Do you see the grub boot loader?
[05:54] <Edu> I got a /dev/hda1 does not exist
[05:55] <toky> eagleye: gnome-look.org
[05:55] <tritium> At what point do you see that, Edu ?
[05:55] <durt> chii_chan: dont know much , but i use it
[05:55] <toky> eagleye: KDE-look.org
[05:55] <smx> i ran apt-get install newporn   all i got was an ad for Wheel of Fortune
[05:55] <afaik> how can I hide the xine controller?
[05:55] <nalioth> eagleye: www.deviantart.com
[05:55] <crimsun> wasabi: lavcodec is satisfied by libavcodec-dev; it looks like another issue
[05:55] <Edu> Ok, after I installed the image from cd disk, machine asked me to remove the cd and hit enter to reboot.. then....
[05:55] <afaik> it covers the damn screen while watching the video full screen?
[05:55] <eagleye> Thank you much
[05:56] <afaik> anyway to hide it?
[05:56] <Madpilot> !+themese
[05:56] <ubotu> Madpilot: Not a clue
[05:56] <Madpilot> !+themes
[05:56] <ubotu> methinks themes is at http://art.ubuntu.com -  http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/ - http://www.guistyles.com
[05:56] <Chii_Chan> Durt... for some reason I can get linux to detect my wireless lan card, it even detects the networks in the area.  But when connected to the network (I think it is anyways) I cannot use the internet >.<
[05:56] <wasabi> crimsun, yeah, I just figured out hwo to complete disable ffmpeg/av support.
[05:56] <Chii_Chan> Right now Im connected via ethernet cable to my network but I want to get wireless working
[05:56] <Madpilot> eagleye: see ubotu above ^^^
[05:56] <Edu> then... it starts to uncompress LINUX  (load the kernel run initrd, save default boot)  and there are some messages about
[05:56] <wasabi> Looks liek the apt doesn't really require it that much
[05:57] <crimsun> wasabi: are you messing with vlc? ;)
[05:57] <wasabi> zoneminder.com
[05:57] <afaik> please, how do I just hide the xine controller?
[05:57] <crimsun> wasabi: ah.
[05:57] <Edu> files that exists. Than I get : " ALERT! /dev/hda1 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!"
[05:57] <Serenity-> Edu: you may need to edit the grub.conf file
[05:57] <Serenity-> grub.conf may have the wrong hda in there
[05:58] <Serenity-> if you have a live cd you can use it to view the actual hda listing
[05:58] <durt> chii_chan, have you activated the card with through the gnome network manager?
[05:58] <eagleye> Anymore useful sites would be appreciated, Cool stuff, etc..
[05:58] <Chii_Chan> I believe so...
[05:58] <Edu> tritium: grub boot loader? ... I am not sure... I have the error messages in the other machine (the one I am trying to install) but doesn't say grub boot loader
[05:59] <sjohnson> hey dudes, anyone know how to burn an .IMG in linux?
[05:59] <Chii_Chan> img isnt that the same as an iso or other cd image?
[05:59] <Serenity-> cd image file
[05:59] <Chii_Chan> If so that should be on the newbie forums, the program that does that
[05:59] <tritium> eagleye, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[05:59] <afaik> god linux apps are trash :(
[06:00] <Edu> Serenity: where is tht file? what do I have to put there
[06:00] <Edu> Serenity: i
[06:00] <Chii_Chan> how would I access the gnome network manager?
[06:00] <Serenity-> Edu: i have no clue :)
[06:00] <theconartist> omfg i hate the thinkpad APM
[06:00] <crimsun> theconartist: what model TP?
[06:00] <theconartist> crimsun, r31
[06:00] <Serenity-> !tell Edu grub
[06:00] <afaik> all my stuff keeps crashing
[06:00] <sjohnson> hmm having no luck, anyone know which program to burn .IMG files with?
[06:00] <Serenity-> !tell Edu grub.conf
[06:01] <Serenity-> :(
[06:01] <theconartist> afaik, you are trash
[06:01] <Chii_Chan> grub is a boot loader
[06:01] <nalioth> Serenity-: it's "tell <nick> about <factoid>"
[06:01] <Edu> Serenity: I have a live cd  the hda list looks fine when I boot with the live cd... the machine even works with the live cd! :-)
[06:01] <Serenity-> oh
[06:01] <Serenity-> !tell Edu about grub.conf
[06:01] <Chii_Chan> A menu which allows you to load the different OS on yoru computer
[06:01] <Serenity-> !tell Edu about grub
[06:01] <theconartist> lol
[06:01] <Serenity-> there we go
[06:01] <Serenity-> sorry it took so many tries :(
[06:01] <Chii_Chan> !tell me gnome network manager
[06:02] <Chii_Chan> bleh
[06:02] <Chii_Chan> it has no help for me >.<
[06:02] <theconartist> !tell theconartist HOW TO MAKE APM NOT BE STUPID
[06:02] <nalioth> theconartist: easy mister
[06:02] <crimsun> R31 eh?
[06:02] <theconartist> ubotu> No, theconartist, I won't.
[06:02] <ubotu> theconartist: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[06:02] <crimsun> theconartist: why aren't you using ACPI?
[06:02] <theconartist> ubotu, worse
[06:02] <ubotu> theconartist: I haven't a clue
[06:03] <Serenity-> so i think i will spend all day sunday getting the svn of winex and compiling it :)
[06:03] <Serenity-> will be a fun learning experience :)
[06:03] <docgnome> does anyone have any experience with ppp connections in ubuntu?
[06:03] <theconartist> crimsun, the problem is something is probing the battery monitor
[06:04] <theconartist> and i cant figure out wtf it is
[06:04] <knuckles> my system works like a charm thank you
[06:04] <Chii_Chan> faust?
[06:05] <Chii_Chan> Faustian from PE? lol
[06:05] <Chii_Chan> Sorry if not, but the name is familiar
[06:05] <IceDragon> hmm
[06:05] <IceDragon> ok
[06:05] <docgnome> I have done pppconfig and set up my connection... it won't dial unless i change the init string to atm1dt<number> then it dials and gets up to the login, but it doesn't sent the username or the password, instead it sends... AT^M
[06:05] <IceDragon> got ubuntu reinstalled
[06:05] <IceDragon> didnt fux0r with anything
[06:05] <IceDragon> how would I install a tar package now?
[06:06] <tritium> IceDragon, there is no ubuntu package of what you want to install?
[06:06] <drummer87> firefox is working :) had to killall firefox-bin
[06:06] <Chii_Chan> How would I access gnome network manager?
[06:06] <IceDragon> nope
[06:06] <IceDragon> I got cedega
[06:07] <IceDragon> :-\
[06:07] <drummer87> how do i install fonts in ubuntu?? i have some .ttf files
[06:07] <Serenity-> there are docs on the cedega site
[06:07] <Serenity-> or join #cedega
[06:07] <theconartist> how do i search for packages with apt
[06:07] <docgnome> theconartist: apt-cache search <string>
[06:08] <Serenity-> theconartist: or you could use Synaptic
[06:08] <nalioth> !tell IceDragon about cli
[06:08] <dabaR> or aptitude aptitude search packageName
[06:08] <crimsun> theconartist: does it display in the framebuffer correctly?
[06:08] <nalioth> drummer87: put any TTF font in your home directory in .fonts
[06:08] <Serenity-> oh yeah, forgot about aptitude :)
[06:08] <tritium> theconartist, with apt-cache search
[06:08] <inthenow> did they fix xcommon yet?
[06:09] <IceDragon> oh another question
[06:09] <inthenow> oh no they didnt fix xcommon
[06:09] <Serenity-> does ubuntu use Xorg ?
[06:09] <inthenow> ya
[06:09] <inthenow> it uses xorg
[06:09] <drummer87> nalioth, i have no .fonts folder, do i just make one?
[06:09] <IceDragon> How do I get linux to read from my ntfs partition, using the pre-installed ntfs module that came with ubuntu hoary
[06:09] <Serenity-> okay, cause i was reading that xorg has my video card working pretty well
[06:09] <nalioth> drummer87: yes
[06:09] <theconartist> anyone know the kernel sources package?
[06:09] <theconartist> +name
[06:09] <nalioth> !tell IceDragon about ntfs
[06:10] <inthenow> IceDragon: mount -t ntfs /dev/device /mnt/c
[06:10] <docgnome> IceDragon: That is a good way to screw up your ntfs partition, in my experience.
[06:10] <Chii_Chan> How would I access gnome network manager?
[06:10] <La_PaRCa> theconartist, linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[06:10] <Serenity-> if i dual boot i should make my windows partition fat32 right?
[06:10] <Serenity-> linux likes it better right?
[06:10] <docgnome> yes
[06:10] <inthenow> oh ok yes it screwed up my ntfs partition. thats what did it. dont do it
[06:10] <cafuego_> Serenity-: Only if you plan on writing data to it from Linux.
[06:11] <Serenity-> and what do i wanna install first, linux or windows?
[06:11] <nalioth> Serenity-: if you want to share files tween linux and windows, yes
[06:11] <Serenity-> yeah I'm going to do sharing
[06:11] <cafuego_> Serenity-: Install WIndows first, then Linux.
[06:11] <inthenow> ntfs reading is experimental
[06:11] <dabaR> Chii_Chan: System, Admin, Networking.
[06:11] <nalioth> Serenity-: windows loves the taste of linux boot loaders, it should go first
[06:11] <Serenity-> lol okay :)
[06:11] <cafuego_> Serenity-: Note that WIndows can read from and write to ext2 and ext3 just fine.
[06:11] <Serenity-> too bad i cant just resize this one
[06:11] <wasabi> crimsun, still having some trouble, maybe you can help. ;)
[06:11] <wasabi> /usr/lib/libavformat.a(ogg.o)(.text+0x44): In function `ogg_write_header':
[06:11] <wasabi> : undefined reference to `ogg_stream_init'
[06:11] <Serenity-> but i hate partition magic
[06:11] <inthenow> remeber boys and girls. If you steal windows you are supporting it
[06:11] <docgnome> cafuego_: since when?
[06:11] <wasabi> Looks like it's just missing a -logg or -lvorbis or something.
[06:12] <wasabi> But I'm not sure how to modify the make files to include it.
[06:12] <cafuego_> Serenity-: I head the Ubuntu partition manager cna resize ntfs without problems. Just defrag it first.
[06:12] <IceDragon> docgnome, I just want to listen to music is all
[06:12] <cafuego_> docgnome: ext2fsd (sourceforge)
[06:12] <Serenity-> i'll just do a clean install, its about time for it
[06:12] <Serenity-> its been about 2 years
[06:12] <Serenity-> lol
[06:12] <inthenow> stop using windows. ubuntu which is free mind do everything and more
[06:12] <yuyudhana> I have problem with ping. ping <ip> works fine. ping <hostname> sends out packets only in 10 sec intervals instead of 1 sec intervals. The ethereal trace shows ping trying reverse DNS lookup twice with a delay of 5 sec in between the two reverse lookups. In that 10 sec interval ctrl-c has no effect. I cant kill ping !!
[06:12] <inthenow> might do everything and more
[06:12] <tritium> inthenow, they can use whatever they want
[06:12] <inthenow> tritium: yes they can
[06:12] <drummer87> thanks nalioth
[06:13] <crimsun> wasabi: yeah, libogg-dev. Is ./configure working correctly?
[06:13] <inthenow> yes they can
[06:13] <Chii_Chan> okey
[06:13] <cafuego_> yuyudhana: Try ctrl-backslash
[06:13] <Serenity-> inthenow: unfortunately i require windows for a few applications :(
[06:13] <wasabi> crimsun, I suspect ./configure forgets about it. Buggy.
[06:13] <inthenow> Serenity-: so do i but i sent it packing
[06:13] <docgnome> inthenow: at the momment i'm trying to get ubuntu running in virtual pc, because my isp is a bunch if effing morons, and i can't connect from FreeBSD -_-
[06:13] <dabaR> yuyudhana: stop pinging things if there is no meaning behind it. If there is a meaning, you should mention it too.
[06:13] <Chii_Chan> it is activated
[06:13] <Chii_Chan> but when I disconnecdt my ethernet card my wireless modem even though it knows where the network is wont work
[06:14] <inthenow> docgnome: get on the phone and straighten the morons out
[06:14] <dabaR> Chii_Chan: your wireless is not working?
[06:14] <Serenity-> friends dont let friends ping the internet :(
[06:14] <cyphase> i don't have one thankfully :)
[06:14] <Chii_Chan> it detects networks, but I cannot use the internet with it
[06:14] <inthenow> docgnome: we all have to do our part here
[06:14] <yuyudhana> cafuego_: ctrl-backslash does not work
[06:14] <docgnome> inthenow: No, it's a free ISP and they charge $10 a phone call.
[06:14] <regeya> the internet is broke someone call al gore
[06:14] <yuyudhana> dabaR: I am just trying ping www.google.com
[06:14] <dabaR> Chii_Chan: can you ping the router with only wireless?
[06:14] <docgnome> I'm not gonna drop ten bucks for them to say "wull it works for us"
[06:14] <dabaR> yuyudhana: for what reason?
[06:14] <Serenity-> i won the internet, then i started over :(
[06:14] <wasabi> Heh. I just patched the Makefile.
[06:14] <wasabi> Oh well
[06:15] <Chii_Chan> going to try connecting to one of the alternate no pwed networks around to see if that works, lol
[06:15] <inthenow> docgnome: what are you amish ;)
[06:15] <Chii_Chan> mine has pw so that might be causing troubles
[06:15] <yuyudhana> dabaR: just find out the packet delay let us assume
[06:15] <dabaR> yuyudhana: your internet is slow?
[06:15] <nalioth> tritium: insure your tongue
[06:15] <docgnome> inthenow: no just too poor to afford broadband and unwilling to pay for crappy dialup :-P
[06:16] <yuyudhana> dabaR: I said ping <ip> is fine. Only ping <hostname> has the problem and I can't kill ping in between a 10 sec interval.
[06:16] <Serenity-> 25 mins until this dl is done :(
[06:16] <tritium> nalioth, no sweat
[06:16] <yuyudhana> dabaR: BTW I am on a 256 Kbps broadband connection
[06:16] <inthenow> docgnome: your poor cause your stealing windows.
[06:16] <nalioth> tritium: no sweat = no good
[06:16] <docgnome> inthenow: Stealing windows?
[06:17] <dabaR> yuyudhana: I do not think you have an issue. just stop pinging things, its not a game, its a network diagnostic tool.
[06:17] <inthenow> docgnome: or no you paid for it sorry
[06:17] <docgnome> inthenow: how am I stealing windows?
[06:17] <tritium> nalioth, agreed
[06:17] <docgnome> inthenow: heh well I got a free copy through my college
[06:17] <yuyudhana> dabaR: :) funny
[06:17] <sinned> Hey guys
[06:17] <sinned> Can someone help me with something
[06:17] <dabaR> I can help you with telling you not to ask that type of question.
[06:17] <sinned> I was playing a game in cedega when it crashed and my resolution of gnome changed to what I was using in the game
[06:17] <Serenity-> if god meant us to have the power of ping, we would be made of silicon and wiring :(
[06:17] <Ainvar`> so whats better helix player or realplayer?
[06:18] <crimsun> better? from a freedom perspective, the former.
[06:18] <Serenity-> sinned: reboot?
[06:18] <sinned> and when I try and change the resolution now, i get an error and can't
[06:18] <docgnome> Serenity-: Ping!
[06:18] <sinned> :/
[06:18] <Serenity-> docgnome: pong!
[06:18] <docgnome> :-P
[06:18] <sinned> There has to be a way to manually change the resolution
[06:18] <inthenow> sinned: what game?
[06:18] <sinned> WoW
[06:18] <Serenity-> sinned: thats what I'm going to be installing on my linux box :)
[06:18] <docgnome> so does anyone know anything about ppp connections?
[06:18] <sinned> ol
[06:18] <sinned> lol
[06:19] <Serenity-> WoW = love :)
[06:19] <inthenow> Serenity-: is that the pay online version?
[06:19] <Ainvar`> I am looking at getting WoW and GW loaded on my linux box
[06:19] <Serenity-> yeah
[06:19] <Ainvar`> that way I can say buh bye to WinXP
[06:19] <Serenity-> i pay 15.99 a month for WoW
[06:19] <inthenow> i think i had enougth of pay online versions
[06:19] <omp> if i get rid of firefox, would epiphany still work?
[06:19] <dabaR> the ppp stands for peer to peer
[06:19] <crimsun> omp: yes. It depends on mozilla-browser.
[06:19] <Serenity-> Ainvar`: yeah me too, i need Outlook Express and WoW to run on linux
[06:19] <Serenity-> and i can say bye bye to windows
[06:19] <Ainvar`> hehe
[06:19] <omp> crimsun: okay thanks :)
[06:20] <sinned> Yeah
[06:20] <nalioth> omp: yes
[06:20] <sinned> when I try and change the resolution
[06:20] <Ainvar`> now if only I can find something similar to GrabIT and Realplayer alternative for linux and it will be for the win
[06:20] <docgnome> Serenity-: why not just use evolution or whatever that gnome mail client is called?
[06:20] <sinned> I get an error saying the xserver doesn't support xran and something plugin
[06:20] <sinned> You can not change the resolution
[06:20] <Serenity-> my online school requires outlook express
[06:20] <docgnome> or KMail
[06:20] <sinned> Is there a way to manually change the resolution?
[06:20] <docgnome> what?
[06:20] <nalioth> Serenity-: try it with evolution
[06:20] <Serenity-> sinned: the control pannel
[06:21] <sinned> Ugh
[06:21] <sinned> I just said it won't let me
[06:21] <Ainvar`> why is oe a requirment? If I may ask that
[06:21] <Serenity-> nalioth: okay ill give it a shot, worst thing that could happen, is that it doesnt work
[06:21] <sinned> nalioth, is there any way to manually change gnomes resolution
[06:21] <sinned> Cedega crashed and gnome won't let me change the resolution
[06:21] <Serenity-> sinned: you could manually edit the xorg config file
[06:21] <Serenity-> i guess
[06:21] <sinned> Well I remember there was a way to manually reset it
[06:22] <nalioth> Serenity-: have you ever heard of spoofing?
[06:22] <sinned> because this has happened to me before :/
[06:22] <Madpilot> !tell sinned about fixres
[06:22] <Serenity-> ip/hostmask spoofing?
[06:22] <nalioth> sinned: in a terminal type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[06:22] <sinned> wtf
[06:22] <sinned> No please
[06:22] <sinned> Thanks Madpilot
[06:22] <Ainvar`> if I could get evolution to work with exchange 5.5 I would be happy but everything I read on it says for exchange 2000 or higher
[06:22] <JustSteve> Serenity, they probably only "support" outlook express at your school
[06:22] <nalioth> Serenity-: you can 'spoof' your evolutions identity
[06:23] <Chii_Chan> am I still on?
[06:23] <Chii_Chan> testing
[06:23] <Serenity-> JustSteve: well the classes are added by clicking a link
[06:23] <docgnome> Chii_Chan: No, You're not.
[06:23] <docgnome> Chii_Chan: :-p
[06:23] <Serenity-> im going to see if i can just manually add in the classes in a linux mail client
[06:23] <Serenity-> see if that works :)
[06:23] <JustSteve> Serenity: well unless it's some sort of activeX junk it should be alright
[06:24] <Serenity-> well that and i can only access the site using IE
[06:24] <omp> what is the ubuntu-desktop package? (it wants to get removed when i remove evolution)
[06:24] <docgnome> does anyone know of a way that i can talk directly to my modem in ubuntu with out using pon and the like?
[06:24] <Chii_Chan> ugh
[06:24] <Ainvar> uggg that means horrible website design
[06:24] <Serenity-> firefox doesnt work with it
[06:24] <Chii_Chan> stupid thing can SEE the networks but not use it :/
[06:24] <dabaR> omp: it is a package that has a list of all things that make up the common ubunut desktop. Whenever you remove a packlage that is part of the standard ubuntu dekstop, like evolution, it will be removed. It is fine, since it is only a list of packages, some call it a metapackage.
[06:25] <Ohmer> anybody with a tv card and sound with the tv on breezy ?
[06:25] <Ohmer> I lost my tv sound in the upgrade :(
[06:25] <Arkainium> I keep getting this really annoying problem.  Every once in a while gnome won't finish loading my desktop and complains about a HAL error. What should I do?
[06:25] <eagleye> Im so confused... :(
[06:26] <omp> dabaR: oh that explains it, thanks a lot  (i just change from gentoo to ubuntu breezy so i don
[06:26] <omp> ahh
[06:26] <nalioth> eagleye: about what?
[06:26] <omp> don't know much about it)
[06:27] <eagleye> installing things..  I know about synaptic, but how the heck do you install something you downloaded
[06:27] <docgnome> Arkainium: Don't take your box on a long trip into space with you?
[06:27] <nalioth> eagleye: what do you want to install that isnt in synaptic?
[06:27] <tritium> eagleye, with dpkg.  What did you download?
[06:27] <eagleye> yahoo messenger, Im used to it.
[06:28] <tritium> eagleye, you don't want to try gaim?
[06:28] <yuyudhana> eagleye: Use dpkg -i <name of yahoo msgr package>
[06:28] <JustSteve> yahoo messenger for linux is UGLY like 1995
[06:28] <tritium> the linux version of yahoo messenger is not like the windows version you're used to
[06:29] <eagleye> yes, the debian version
[06:29] <crimsun> tritium gets the understatement award =)
[06:29] <valtea> talking about yahoo.. i cant connect to my yahoo chat using gaim
[06:29] <Serenity-> woohoo i just checked out the tech support for my school, they say i can use linux, but have to call in and setup the accounts manually
[06:29] <eagleye> me neither
[06:30] <nalioth> Serenity-: see? they are reasonable folks
[06:30] <tritium> crimsun, :)
[06:30] <docgnome> Serenity-: Punch them in the teeth while you are at it for being big dorks.
[06:30] <nalioth> Serenity-: they
[06:30] <nalioth> 're probably glad you ARE using linujx
[06:30] <Serenity-> lol just in case, im going to write down all the ports/address on paper
[06:30] <eagleye> look on the yahoo download page, and see how it says to install the debian version..Im confused about that.
[06:30] <Serenity-> so i can just manually add them in after i reinstall
[06:31] <valtea> anyone have tried?
[06:31] <anethema> hey does anyone know how to burn a .IMG file in ubuntu (to dvd)
[06:32] <anethema> gnomebaker says it doesnt recognize the format
[06:33] <valtea> is there somekind of a netmeeting client
[06:33] <nalioth> anethema: use cdrecord
[06:33] <nalioth> valtea: gnomemeeting
[06:33] <Bicchi> i noticed that my open applications in my taskbar take too much space. how can i shorten the amount of information that gets displayed there. i am using gnome offcourse.
[06:33] <eagleye> where do I use dbkg -i , in what?
[06:33] <valtea> thanks
[06:33] <anethema> hmmm
[06:33] <anethema> like..
[06:33] <anethema> how will cdrecord know the format?
[06:34] <anethema> if it isnt in ISO format wont cdrecord balk ?
[06:34] <cafuego_> why would cdrecord care?
[06:34] <cafuego_> It's just data. Just burn it.
[06:34] <anethema> because if its not just raw data it wont record properly
[06:34] <docgnome> gosh... i had that BSOD screen saver on
[06:34] <cafuego_> Not _properly_, different issue.
[06:34] <anethema> if it was just data like an iso or whatever i think gnomebaker would do it
[06:35] <docgnome> had a moment of panic there...
[06:35] <cafuego_> anethema: loop mount it, see what's on it.
[06:35] <anethema> ok
[06:35] <eagleye> where do I type this in at dpkg -i <name of package, blah blah
[06:36] <valtea> using gmome meeting i found that my ubuntu does not recognise my Webcam
[06:36] <valtea> its logitech webcam
[06:36] <valtea> usb Device
[06:36] <Serenity-> woohoo 5% to go :D
[06:36] <IceDragon> just got back
[06:36] <IceDragon> okay
[06:36] <IceDragon> ran the script ot mount the ntfs drives
[06:36] <IceDragon> and it was successful
[06:36] <IceDragon> now where do I find where it mounted to?
[06:37] <wasabi> Sep 23 23:36:58 localhost mysqld[22682] : mysqld got signal 11;
[06:37] <wasabi> great.
[06:37] <valtea> any help in configuring my webcam
[06:37] <Serenity-> i hate how long it takes to reinstall windows.. thats like an hour of my life im not getting back
[06:37] <Serenity-> lol
[06:37] <omp> is there an apt-get command to list all installed packages?
[06:37] <eagleye> where do I type this in at dpkg -i <name of package, blah blah, sorry Im stupid, this is all new to me..
[06:37] <crimsun> omp: no, but there's dpkg -l
[06:37] <anethema> cafuego, wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop1,
[06:37] <valtea> eagleye,  type that in the terminal
[06:37] <anethema> so obviously not in iso format
[06:37] <omp> crimsun: that's good enough, thanks
[06:37] <valtea> rightclick on the desktop
[06:37] <valtea> and open terminal
[06:38] <eagleye> thank you
[06:38] <Madpilot> eagleye: cd to whatever directory has the deb file in it, then do the dpkg stuff
[06:38] <eagleye> ok, kinda like dos right
[06:38] <valtea> con someone help me. my webcam is not being detected
[06:38] <BROKEN_LADDER> this article on /. is hilarious.  We calculated that, if acetylene is reacting with the hydrogen gas to turn it back into methane, quite a bit of energy is being released. So that's our basis for saying there is something to eat on Titan. We don't know if there are any customers, but there's something on the menu."
[06:38] <dabaR> omp: dpkg -l |less will help you read it.
[06:38] <valtea> yes eagleye
[06:38] <valtea> i would rather say Dos is like Linux
[06:38] <valtea> hehhe
[06:38] <omp> dabaR: yah i know :)
[06:39] <anethema> cafuego, any idea?
[06:39] <omp> dabaR: i'm not new to linux, just new to ubuntu
[06:39] <dabaR> ah, yes, you said so.
[06:39] <cdemwell> Hi
[06:39] <eagleye> are the commands the same as dos.. or a bit different..
[06:40] <cdemwell> I'm having the damnedest time with a new kubuntu install
[06:40] <anethema> does -anyone- know how to burn a .img file?
[06:40] <cdemwell> All the users on the system see applications appropriately in the k menu, and can edit the k menu with kmenuedit... excpet steve
[06:40] <glick> hello all
[06:40] <cdemwell> Poor steve!
[06:40] <nalioth> anethema: use cdrecord
[06:40] <sambagirl> i install breezy but is nothing happening
[06:40] <cdemwell> nothing happens for him.
[06:40] <valtea> anethema, try Nero Linux
[06:40] <cdemwell> I've seen several posts about it in the forums, but no replies
[06:40] <mgcross> hello all!
[06:40] <glick> ubuntu is great!
[06:41] <glick> however...
[06:41] <anethema> nalioth, it isnt gonna work unless i can figure out some custom way to write the format
[06:41] <glick> it, nor any linux is for the run of the mill average computer user
[06:41] <Serenity-> so if i dont care about reading my windows partition in linux, i can leave it NTFS right?
[06:41] <glick> i installed ubuntu for a friend of mine
[06:41] <glick> a business dude
[06:41] <nalioth> anethema: did you read the manpage?
[06:41] <glick> and i am recommending him to go back to windows
[06:41] <mgcross> Quick question if I may...moving from an nvidia mx400 to a 6600gt...will I need to reinstall drivers...not sure...
[06:41] <anethema> the word img not found
[06:41] <Madpilot> eagleye: different from dos... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands for some basics
[06:42] <Serenity-> mgcross: probably
[06:42] <mgcross> hmmm...aptget purge nvidia-glx?
[06:42] <sjohnson> whein
[06:42] <Madpilot> Serenity-: yes, but you can mount your ntfs partition read-only
[06:42] <nalioth> anethema: http://www.google.com/search?q=burn+.img+linux&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
[06:43] <Chii_Chan> what is the command which is needed to do admin/root stuff?  its a four letter one but I dont remember it off the top of my head right now >.,
[06:43] <eagleye> thank you
[06:43] <crimsun> Chii_Chan: sudo
[06:43] <Chii_Chan> ty ^.^
[06:43] <IceDragon> Whats a good media player for linux comparative to winamp?
[06:43] <cdemwell> well, this sucks
[06:43] <sjohnson> nalioth: i've googled that before, no luck
[06:43] <cdemwell> If I can't solve this issue, Steve will want windows back
[06:43] <cdemwell> That's not good
[06:43] <nalioth> sjohnson: hmmm
[06:43] <holycow> IceDragon, beep media player
[06:44] <sjohnson> how do i found out the x,x,x scsi mapping for my burner?
[06:44] <Chii_Chan> linux is not for people unwilling to learn and experiment I am finding out
[06:44] <anethema> nalioth, while i do apreciate help, dont get me wrong, just pointing me to a google link which i was already looking at doesnt help me much :)
[06:44] <mgcross> icedragon: beep or xmms..but I prefer amarok to both
[06:44] <nalioth> anethema: sorry mister.
[06:44] <glick> hehe yet he refuses to take my advise
[06:44] <anethema> i do apreciate help though
[06:44] <crimsun> sjohnson: use /dev/hdX unless you have an actual SCSI burner
[06:44] <glick> he says his system has never run so stable in its entire history
[06:44] <mrchicago> hay anyone know how to publish on sourceforge
[06:44] <glick> and that a person has to be a moron to use the basic features
[06:45] <sjohnson> crimsun: can i just use cdrecord to burn dvd images without anything fancy?
[06:45] <Serenity-> woohoo time to burn ubuntu :)
[06:45] <Serenity-> brb
[06:45] <mrchicago> heh
[06:45] <crimsun> sjohnson: I think you want dvd+rw-tools
[06:45] <Serenity-> make bootable disk right?
[06:45] <Serenity-> lol
[06:45] <Serenity-> sorry im half tired doing this
[06:45] <crimsun> sjohnson: or the "pro" version of cdrecord, which is non-free and not in the Ubuntu repo
[06:46] <IceDragon> mgcross, is it GUI
[06:46] <nalioth> crimsun: yes, the prodvd is very hard to locate
[06:46] <mrchicago> i wrote a program that lets you increse the brightness of the monitor how can i put it up on sourceforge
[06:46] <IceDragon> command line media players are .... ehh
[06:46] <Serenity-> do i do burn image or make bootable disk
[06:46] <Serenity-> i forgot :(
[06:46] <mrchicago> mkiso
[06:46] <Serenity-> im in windows
[06:46] <Serenity-> lol
[06:47] <mrchicago> or mkisofs
[06:47] <mrchicago> oh ok
[06:47] <mrchicago> never mind
[06:47] <Serenity-> using Nero right now
[06:47] <Madpilot> Serenity-: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[06:47] <mrchicago> sorry
[06:47] <eagleye> What does this mean...>>>eagleye@eagleye:~/Desktop$ dpkg -i ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb
[06:47] <eagleye> dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege
[06:47] <Serenity-> Madpilot: thanks, sorry im tired :(
[06:47] <mrchicago> log in as root
[06:48] <digitize> eagleye: you have to log in a sroot
[06:48] <digitize> as root*
[06:48] <mrchicago> and sudo dpk -i
[06:48] <Madpilot> eagleye: use sudo
[06:48] <mrchicago> and sudo dpkg -i
[06:48] <Madpilot> mrchicago: sudo doesn't need login as root
[06:48] <mrchicago> ok
[06:48] <Madpilot> !root
[06:48] <ubotu> I guess root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[06:48] <IceDragon> I still have not gotten a straight answer for installing .tgz files
[06:48] <mrchicago> either way itll work
[06:48] <eagleye> umm, you mean type sudo
[06:48] <Agrajag> IceDragon: that's because there's no one way to do that
[06:48] <nalioth> IceDragon: unarchive them, read the documentation inside and proceed
[06:48] <IceDragon> oh
[06:49] <nalioth> !tell IceDragon about cli
[06:49] <Madpilot> mrchicago: except there's no root by default in Ubuntu...
[06:49] <mrchicago> tar zxvf yada.gz.tgz
[06:49] <IceDragon> so I just put them in the corresponding folders
[06:49] <Agrajag> is it a binary? source tarball? with or without autoconf?
[06:49] <IceDragon> I can untar fine
[06:49] <mrchicago> then ./configure
[06:49] <nalioth> IceDragon: there are many things inside a tgz
[06:49] <mrchicago> make make install
[06:49] <Madpilot> eagleye: what are you trying to install via dpkg?
[06:49] <nalioth> no make install
[06:49] <IceDragon> so when using the tar command, where does the file need to be?
[06:49] <mrchicago> make && make install
[06:49] <nalioth> use "checkinstall" instead of "make install"
[06:49] <eagleye> yahoo messenger
[06:50] <Madpilot> eagleye: use GAIM, it'll do yahoo and a bunch of other IM stuff - and it's pre-installed in Ubuntu...
[06:50] <eagleye> heres where it is..and says how to..http://messenger.yahoo.com/unix.php
[06:51] <eagleye> I tried it. dont work
[06:51] <mrchicago> is it an rpm
[06:52] <cafuego_> yahoo messenger is broken
[06:52] <cafuego_> Use gaim instead.
[06:52] <Serenity-> use Gaim
[06:52] <Serenity-> its a nice program :)
[06:52] <mgcross> IceDragon: yes...it's GUI...also has more features than xmms or winamp could ever have hoped for...gives you lyrics and band info for the currecntly playing song...excellent playlist managment...too much to name
[06:52] <dabaR> use centericq
[06:52] <Madpilot> eagleye: so "sudo dpkg -i <whatever.deb>" if Gaim is really busted...
[06:53] <valtea> i wanted the KDE desktop
[06:53] <bjron> anyone got an idea why the "clear search history" option has dissapeared from the right-clicke menu in the search box of firefoxL
[06:53] <eagleye> ok, will try that, thank you, I will give it a shot..
[06:53] <bjron> L
[06:53] <bjron> ?
[06:53] <valtea> instead of Gnome
[06:53] <Serenity-> i should probably run a degrag before repartitioning the hd
[06:53] <Serenity-> lol
[06:53] <valtea> i tried to install it with synaptic
[06:53] <Chii_Chan> bah >.<  this ndiswrapper is driving me up or through the wall >.<
[06:53] <valtea> but there are so many packeges
[06:53] <Chii_Chan> not sure which
[06:53] <La_PaRCa> I think the yahoo mesenger thing is an .rpm
[06:53] <valtea> i dont know which one to chose
[06:53] <nalioth> Serenity-: only if you want to keep your data (thought you were gonna redo the whole thing)
[06:53] <dabaR> kubuntu-desktop, is the one you want.
[06:53] <Serenity-> valtea: the kde core and dependences
[06:54] <valtea> can someone tell me which one is the KDE desktop
[06:54] <dabaR> Serenity-: no, what I said.
[06:54] <valtea> only that?
[06:54] <Serenity-> okay
[06:54] <Serenity-> sorry dabaR
[06:54] <dabaR> valtea: see what it pulls along with itself.
[06:54] <Serenity-> just trying to help :(
[06:54] <dabaR> Serenity-: gimme 20./
[06:54] <Serenity-> nalioth: i just hate reinstalling windows
[06:54] <Serenity-> takes forever lol
[06:54] <spackest> so I contend that the postgres that comes with 5.04 is broken
[06:54] <nalioth> Serenity-: your choice
[06:55] <valtea> thanks alot
[06:55] <Serenity-> oh hey, with OpenOffice can you make PowerPoints?
[06:55] <dabaR> Serenity-: I know, thats cool. dont respond if you are not sure. and...learn from responses from people that are sure.
[06:55] <crimsun> Serenity-: you can make presentations, yes.
[06:55] <Serenity-> sweet
[06:55] <sjohnson> does anyone use k3b? does it burn .IMG files?
[06:55] <Serenity-> i have to make PowerPoint presentations for one of my classes :)
[06:55] <dabaR> crimsun: ya, I like that word better, I always hate when ppl use powerpoints to refer to presentations.
[06:55] <spackest> postgres?  anyone use postgres in ubuntu?
[06:55] <anethema> yeah i';d also like to know
[06:55] <anethema> can k3b do it ?
[06:56] <Serenity-> lol okay guys im going to go reinstall windows
[06:56] <eagleye> i did that sudo thing and it asked for password, then it said this>dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[06:56] <Serenity-> then install ubuntu
[06:56] <snausages> so do some people say, "i just powerpointed this"
[06:56] <Serenity-> wish me luck :)
[06:56] <dabaR> Serenity-: good luck.
[06:56] <Serenity-> thanks!
[06:56] <cafuego_> powerpoint is a registered trademark, you can't call it that.
[06:57] <cafuego_> Just use Impress.
[06:57] <snausages> she's reinstalling windows?
[06:57] <bonee> o need help on GDM
[06:57] <bonee> wont work anymore
[06:57] <cafuego_> snausages: Yeah, it's a 2 year old, install, probably best to reinstall the whole lot.
[06:57] <concept10> dabaR: See, thats the problem.  Microsoft has us believing there is only one way to do a task
[06:57] <snausages> whew, 2 years
[06:58] <dabaR> bonee: give it more incentives.
[06:58] <bonee> it goes to console
[06:58] <bonee> when i log oiut
[06:58] <snausages> speaking of that, i'm new to ubuntu and linux as well, but do you all find yourselves reinstalling your distro often?
[06:58] <dr_willis> snausages,  not really
[06:58] <nalioth> snausages: you should never have to reinstall again
[06:58] <cafuego_> snausages: No.
[06:58] <bonee> its not the graphic card
[06:59] <snausages> unless you screw up something irrepairable huh
[06:59] <nalioth> snausages: *nix is designed that way
[06:59] <cafuego_> snausages: My oldest linux box has been alive for 7 years.
[06:59] <bonee> BRB
[06:59] <snausages> that's nice to know
[06:59] <cafuego_> All hardware got replaced during that time, but the software didn't :-)
[06:59] <dr_willis> of course some times its just easier to  backup your HOME and reinstall. I like to test out the new installers and learn what 'defaults' some disrtos use and so forth.
[06:59] <nalioth> snausages: there are several famous boxen that have uptime of over 5 years
[06:59] <snausages> nice
[06:59] <Madpilot> eagleye: you can't use dpkg if Synaptic is also open
[06:59] <snausages> nalioth yeah but i imagine those are mostly servers
[06:59] <snausages> not home desktops
[06:59] <snausages> right?
[07:00] <cafuego_> With my /proc/uptime patch, you too cna have a 5 year uptime after recompiling teh kernel!
[07:00] <nalioth> snausages: even with a home box, you can expect never to load an install disk again
[07:00] <pepsi> whats up with the screensaver in breezy?
[07:00] <concept10> cafuego_: thats cheating!
[07:00] <snausages> i screwed up something and had to reinstall about 5 times now heheh
[07:01] <crimsun> I don't know, what is up with it?
[07:01] <snausages> i'm new though so
[07:01] <pepsi> there are 2 of them
[07:01] <crimsun> (it works for me)
[07:01] <dr_willis> of course - some times its easier to just wipe your test box when learning/breaking things. :P
[07:01] <cafuego_> concept10: I don't use it, just wrote it for someone who wanted one.
[07:01] <anethema> well its official, its near impossible to burn a .IMG file in linux. god damnit!
[07:01] <pepsi> theres a new one and i dont like it.. how can i use the other one?
[07:01] <spackest> so if I want to change from 5.04 to 5.10, can I just change my apt/sources.list and do an upgrade?
[07:01] <cafuego_> snausages: The only time I reinstalled was when going from 32bit to 64bit.
[07:01] <Madpilot> anethema: asked google yet?
[07:01] <concept10> my server:  23:51:08 up 26 days, 14:31,  1 user,  load average: 1.26, 1.25, 1.01
[07:01] <crimsun> pepsi: remove gnome-screensaver
[07:01] <anethema> extensively yes thanks Madpilot :)
[07:01] <cafuego_> spackest: Once 5.10 is released, yes. I believe it would currently fail.
[07:01] <mrchicago> did you try k3b
[07:01] <concept10> im going for the record!
[07:02] <anethema> no
[07:02] <mrchicago> i think it can read .img
[07:02] <snausages> cafuego_ you know what else my problem is? i want my box to be "clean" all the time, meaning, when i uninstall/reinstall crap, i have a feeling that some stuff is left behind and my machine is cluttered
[07:02] <snausages> so i reinstall
[07:02] <cafuego_>  15:02:10 up 190 days, 19:40,  2 users,  load average: 0.13, 0.12, 0.04
[07:02] <anethema> have to install a ton of kde libs to get k3b going
[07:02] <spackest> mostly I would like a postgres that works a touch better
[07:02] <cafuego_> the production server
[07:02] <docgnome> I'm trying to make a ppp connection with ubuntu and i've figured out that wvdial and pon both send ATZ to the modem and expect a response... but for some reason my modem isn't sending that response. The modem does work however as I am using it right now... Does anyone know of a way to send commands directly to my modem in Ubuntu?
[07:02] <anethema> buuut if you say it reads .img its worth a try
[07:02] <oblib> Question: For some reason my Serial ATA drive (sda1) does not mount when fstab is used during boot -- it says it is not found. Is there a way to get it to mount after it recognizes the drive?
[07:02] <Madpilot> anethema: yeah, but it's worth it. K3B is great
[07:02] <glick> ubuntu uses xorg right?
[07:02] <mrchicago> yeah it is
[07:02] <anethema> yes glenn
[07:02] <anethema> glick,
[07:03] <docgnome> glick: aye.
[07:03] <anethema> k3b that much better than gnomebaker ?
[07:03] <concept10> snausages: I feel the same way.  I wish I knew how to keep the system clean, although Linux does a better job than windows
[07:03] <mrchicago> is there any software for linux to create an avi into an mpg or mpg into dvd
[07:03] <crimsun> anethema: afaik the non-free Nero for Linux can burn them
[07:03] <snausages> concept10 i noticed that yeah
[07:03] <dr_willis> dust the keyboard once a week. :P
[07:03] <snausages> ha
[07:03] <anethema> crimsun, is there a easy way to dl that?
[07:03] <snausages> :P
[07:03] <nalioth> mrchicago: transcode
[07:03] <concept10> heh
[07:03] <mrchicago> ant find it anywhere
[07:03] <crimsun> anethema: check Ahead's Web site
[07:04] <concept10> my keyboard has ashes between the keys from this cigar
[07:04] <Chii_Chan> lets see if this works now
[07:04] <Madpilot> anethema: for me, GnomeBaker will only burn coasters with audio CDs; k3b will actually burn working audio CDs...
[07:04] <anethema> says its 20 bux
[07:04] <bob2> snausages: if packages leave things behind, it's a bug
[07:04] <crimsun> Madpilot: with the Breezy version?
[07:04] <mrchicago> for real
[07:04] <mrchicago> k3b is the shit
[07:04] <Madpilot> crimsun: Hoary version
[07:04] <anethema> crimsun, ahead says nero for linux is 20 bux :(
[07:04] <crimsun> Madpilot:
[07:04] <mrchicago> nero of linux
[07:04] <crimsun> Madpilot: err, k
[07:04] <snausages> k3b didnt work well for me
[07:04] <mrchicago> and you dont need a crack
[07:04] <ksmurf> anyone have any ideas on how to get a battery moniter working on breezy with an acer laptop?
[07:04] <anethema> oh m i see
[07:05] <anethema> need a nero serial
[07:05] <mrchicago> i never had any trouble out of it
[07:05] <concept10> whats wrong with k3b?
[07:05] <bob2> ksmurf: if the "acpi -V" command does not work, file a bug
[07:05] <anethema> i dont wanna install a damn 100mb of kde libs to run one program :)
[07:05] <snausages> i kept getting some weird error 255 or 225 messsage
[07:05] <furic> Understandable
[07:05] <snausages> (in k3b)
[07:05] <dr_willis> 100mb - Fa! trivial.
[07:05] <dr_willis> :P
[07:05] <anethema> haha
[07:06] <anethema> just not anxious to clog my system then never be able to find em again to remove them
[07:06] <anethema> haha
[07:06] <bob2> it's trivial to remove them if you instal them with aptitude
[07:06] <concept10> I dont understand why someone didnt just make a GTK version of k3b instead of trying to do something like gnomebaker, reinvent the wheel
[07:06] <bob2> which you should be using anyway
[07:06] <pepsi> bob2, what does that command do? the battery monitor doesnt work for me either.. well it does work, but only after i do something like plug it, unplug, close the lid, etc, but it always tells me what it was _before_ i do that
[07:06] <anethema> rather than synaptic?
[07:06] <Madpilot> concept10: I've been wondering that myself...
[07:06] <anethema> like, how will aptitude know which 100 libs installed with one program?
[07:06] <anethema> i use synaptic..no good?
[07:06] <eagleye> seems I have dependancy problems, whatever that means
[07:07] <furic> I am wondering, when you install a bunch of programs to try them out, you pretty much allways have to install a bunch of dependecies too, but when it comes time to uninstall the ones you dont like synaptic leaves the dependencies on your system, just floating around being useless, is there some way around this bitrot?
[07:07] <bob2> pepsi: that command queries the acpi system on your laptop
[07:07] <tritium> furic, that's what we're recommending aptitude for
[07:07] <bob2> pepsi: which is probably what your battery applet does, too, but this cuts out some layers
[07:07] <Amaranth> furic: deborphan and debfoster
[07:07] <concept10> Madpilot: if I knew how to do it, I would.. its just a front end for cdrrecord
[07:07] <Amaranth> furic: oh, and aptitude
[07:07] <bob2> anethema: aptitude will know it only installed kdelibs so yo ucould use k3b, yes
[07:07] <furic> Aptitude is command line, corrent?
[07:08] <ksmurf> bob2 that works but the moniters don't....  And I would like to be able to give as much info for the bug as I can so any direction on submitting an informative bug
[07:08] <bob2> furic: and curses, yes
[07:08] <Amaranth> furic: just don't use aptitude to install/remove something that removes ubuntu-desktop, it'll remove most of your system
[07:08] <furic> Is there something x based?
[07:08] <mrchicago> heh
[07:08] <Madpilot> furic: there's a sort of DOS-like semi-graphical thing for aptitude...
[07:08] <bob2> ksmurf: I'd say laptop model, /var/log/dmesg output, and the output of acpi -V
[07:08] <furic> curses is command line
[07:08] <bob2> hah, interesting POV
[07:08] <pepsi> ksmurf, does the battery monitor work at all?
[07:08] <furic> is there something x based?
[07:09] <concept10> Madpilot: If I knew how to do it, I would use Quod Libet and then add a CD burning plugin
[07:09] <bob2> pepsi: does acpi -V work for you without doing that dance?
[07:09] <pepsi> yes
[07:09] <Madpilot> concept10: what's Quod Libet?
[07:09] <anethema> No support for device type: thermal
[07:09] <anethema> heh
[07:09] <pepsi> bob2, so i think my problem is just that the applet doesnt query it
[07:09] <cafuego_> !info user-mode-linux
[07:09] <bob2> pepsi: file a bug on gnome-applets, I guess
[07:09] <concept10> Madpilot: a better rhthymbox
[07:09] <bob2> ksmurf: (file it on gnome-applets, too)
[07:10] <concept10> Madpilot: http://www.sacredchao.net/quodlibet
[07:10] <pepsi> bob2, im guessing that the applet waits for an event instead of querying it.. will file a report i guess
[07:11] <bob2> pepsi: great, thanks
[07:11] <glick> does anyone know if google will release a full fledge google talk for linux?
[07:11] <glick> oh i hope they do
[07:11] <glick> id like talk support for linux
[07:11] <docgnome> Aye. Me too
[07:11] <nomasteryoda> glick, you mean Google
[07:11] <nomasteryoda> talk as in IM?
[07:11] <glick> yeah
[07:12] <furic> I hope google retracts the one they released on windows and sticks to search
[07:12] <anethema> yeah google's IM
[07:12] <nomasteryoda> well, i use it via the gaim jabber
[07:12] <nomasteryoda> have not even seen what the google im client looks like
[07:12] <tristanmike> glick, so you can use Gaim for your google account
[07:12] <glick> yeah but it allows free voice talk
[07:12] <FloK> hi. i downloaded kubuntu-5.10-preview-install for a friend, a linux newbie. Does it offer a similar install gui as the distributed CDs?
[07:12] <glick> no linux clients offer voice
[07:12] <furic> So does skype and gnome meeting and netmeeting
[07:12] <docgnome> Anyone know how to send commands directly to a modem (/dev/ttyS0)
[07:12] <Madpilot> concept10: Quod Libet is in Breezy's repos.. I'll have to check it out when I upgrade...
[07:12] <WebLOCH> FloK, you shouldnt have done that
[07:12] <furic> skype and gnomemeeting are both linux clients
[07:12] <furic> and skype actually has a userbase too!
[07:13] <tristanmike> glick, skype and teamspeak are two different clients for linux for voice chatting
[07:13] <FloK> WebLOCH, ? why?
[07:13] <WebLOCH> FloK, you the 5.10 preview is not yet stable, definately not good for a newbie or anyone new to it
[07:13] <concept10> Madpilot: or compile it yourself
[07:13] <glick> tristanmike, yeah but they are inoerable with windows users
[07:13] <anethema> and skype quality OWNS teampseak..unfortunatly it doesnt play nice with alsa
[07:13] <WebLOCH> FloK, Download 5.04 (hoary) and give them that
[07:13] <FloK> WebLOCH, i see
[07:13] <FloK> ok
[07:13] <tristanmike> glick, what do you mean?
[07:13] <mrchicago> what version of transcode will work with ubuntu
[07:13] <nomasteryoda> anethema, what does play well with alsa
[07:13] <nomasteryoda> lol
[07:13] <furic> nomasteryoda: It looks like google as a desktop application developer makes a real good web developer
[07:13] <anethema> haha some programs do :)
[07:13] <bob2> mrchicago: the one in ubuntu
[07:14] <glick> tristanmike, i want something thats interoperable between linux and windows
[07:14] <anethema> when skype begins using alsa, ill see if i can play ut and use alsa at the same time
[07:14] <tristanmike> glick, teamspeak is on windows
[07:14] <anethema> it uses some other fucked up library (ut does)
[07:14] <daaku> any mutt users? i'm trying to forward an email with all its attachments. and bounce doesnt work. any know know how?
[07:14] <furic> glick: Skype
[07:14] <tristanmike> glick, and Skype
[07:14] <anethema> i agree, skype
[07:14] <anethema> very damn easy
[07:14] <tristanmike> furic, ;)
[07:14] <nalioth> anethema: please dude. mommys are watching you
[07:14] <mrchicago> when i go into synapse it says it cant be installed
[07:15] <bob2> daaku: bounce should work
[07:15] <anethema> mommys?
[07:15] <nomasteryoda> yes ... please use fudge
[07:15] <bob2> daaku: ie it has always worked for me
[07:15] <anethema> haha fudge
[07:15] <nomasteryoda> what they told us on bzflag too
[07:15] <anethema> gotta be joking, are there 5 year olds in the room i should be careful not to have read what i say? haha
[07:15] <nomasteryoda> fudge but not dam
[07:16] <nalioth> anethema: yes cursing doesnt help
[07:16] <nomasteryoda> hey, 12 and younger...and mothers
[07:16] <bob2> anethema: anyway, please watch your language, thanks.
[07:16] <bob2> tho I'm not sure what this has to do with mothers
[07:16] <anethema> yes yes, i can, just curious why
[07:16] <anethema> seems pretty juvenile
[07:16] <nalioth> !tell anethema about conduct
[07:16] <nomasteryoda> just trying to keep up good image of ubuntu...
[07:17] <docgnome> I wanna talk to my modem directly dag nab it!
[07:17] <bob2> no, we're just trying to stay civil
[07:17] <docgnome> none of this pon or wvdial stuff.
[07:17] <nomasteryoda> because this is the main support channel that is in xchat on every Ubuntu CD out there
[07:17] <anethema> sorry, im a construction worker...ingrained in my vocab
[07:17] <opteek> how do I go about making my samba server allow anon access
[07:17] <anethema> if it slips again just kick me to remind me :0
[07:17] <bob2> docgnome: so use minicom
[07:17] <tristanmike> besides, it's just proper etiqute, an intelligent person can get their thoughts across with out cursing
[07:17] <bob2> opteek: /etc/samba/smb.conf
[07:18] <WebLOCH> tristanmike, i beg to differ, intelligence and vocabulary are a world apart, not that that excuses anything
[07:18] <Bicchi> is there a reason why firefox does not update its extensions. I have a few that have gone thru several updates and i still show the old version?
[07:18] <anethema> but f*ck is such a versatile word haha
[07:18] <furic> swaring is not a measurement of intelegence
[07:18] <opteek> bob2, yeah.. uhuh...
[07:18] <nomasteryoda> anethema, so you write reports to other construction workers/bosses with that word in them?... just curious
[07:18] <anethema> has nothing to do with intelligence or stupidity
[07:18] <docgnome> bob2: HA! i had forgoten about minicom
[07:18] <anethema> i graded top of my university class in electrical engineering, and am scaffolding untill winter hits
[07:19] <durt> if you work in the porn industry, then you need to use that word
[07:19] <furic> If swaring meant people where dumber, every windows user would have to be the dumbest person on the planet, and there can only be one of those
[07:19] <anethema> doesnt mean im stupid, i just enjoy swearing haha..
[07:19] <anethema> but like i said, i wont here.
[07:19] <opteek> fsck is used
[07:19] <nomasteryoda> k
[07:19] <nomasteryoda> yhks
[07:19] <glick> does skype do adware, or anything of that nature?
[07:19] <nomasteryoda> thks
[07:19] <nomasteryoda> no
[07:19] <furic> glick: No
[07:19] <FloK> kubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso on german mirror is 23k size... ?
[07:19] <anethema> sure ill use fsck instead
[07:19] <anethema> heh
[07:19] <glick> do you use it?
[07:19] <nomasteryoda> skype... until ebay dorks it up
[07:20] <nomasteryoda> works very well
[07:20] <anethema> yeah
[07:20] <furic> glick: Skype is totally free and clean, they make their cash selling you viop to landline gateway access, pc to pc is free
[07:20] <eagleye> well, thanks anyway,, I cant get anywhere... talk to you later
[07:20] <nomasteryoda> millions of people do
[07:20] <anethema> hopefully ebay will make it alsa
[07:20] <TokenBad> bah..I give up
[07:21] <nalioth> rants and cursing for pleasure can be discussed in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:21] <glick> to install the ubuntu version just run dpkg -i package.deb?
[07:21] <cafuego_> Skype use a proprietary voip protocol, they'll lock you in, then start charging or advertising.
[07:21] <furic> Done.
[07:21] <pepsi> afaik skype is the kazaa people
[07:21] <glick> cafuego, when they do that ill just stop using it it
[07:21] <WebLOCH> something ive noticed from being here
[07:22] <docgnome> Hrm... Is minicom in universe?
[07:22] <cafuego_> glick: I bet that's what heaps of WIndows users said too about forced upgrades
[07:22] <WebLOCH> is that everyone else is a programmer
[07:22] <nalioth> furic: you didnt stay... i had a remark for you
[07:22] <cafuego_> !info minicom
[07:22] <ubotu> minicom: (friendly menu driven serial communication program), section comm, is optional. Version: 2.1-8 (hoary), Packaged size: 268 kB, Installed size: 896 kB
[07:22] <mrchicago> uh me
[07:22] <furic> skype was founded by the kazaa people, but those people sold kazaa to another company, which is the one who added the spyware
[07:24] <Amaranth> cafuego_: Err, that doesn't tell you if it's in universe or not.
[07:24] <TokenBad> anyone walk me through mounting a cue/bin file?
[07:24] <Amaranth> TokenBad: bchunk
[07:24] <TokenBad> Amaranth?
[07:24] <Amaranth> !info bchunk
[07:24] <ubotu> bchunk: (CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 1.2.0-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 12 kB, Installed size: 68 kB
[07:25] <TokenBad> oh I would have to convert to iso?
[07:25] <mrchicago> when will the newest version of ubuntu be online
[07:25] <Amaranth> yep
[07:25] <TokenBad> that sucks
[07:25] <Amaranth> mrchicago: october 13th
[07:25] <Davey> mrchicago, sometime in October
[07:25] <mrchicago> cool
[07:25] <Davey> there you go
[07:25] <pepsi> mrchicago, where are you from?
[07:25] <Davey> Amaranth, so, breezy is pretty stable now?
[07:25] <Amaranth> Davey!
[07:25] <nomasteryoda> cool... Mark's the admin on Launchpad.net... wow
[07:26] <Amaranth> Davey: somewhat, they are getting in some last minute things and there are some problems with x-common
[07:26] <Davey> ah, cool
[07:26] <WebLOCH> 19 days
[07:26] <snausages> i cantwait
[07:26] <Amaranth> although right now i'm on windows 2000 and don't have ubuntu installed anywhere
[07:26] <WebLOCH> hmm someone else gave me that figure
[07:26] <mrchicago> virginia
[07:26] <Amaranth> except on my dead HD
[07:26] <WebLOCH> but i believe it to be correct
[07:26] <nomasteryoda> Davey, look at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/breezy
[07:26] <nomasteryoda> er, you have to login
[07:26] <nomasteryoda> but bug list in breezy is there
[07:26] <pepsi> mrchicago, lol really?
[07:26] <Amaranth> nomasteryoda: I would expect mark to be an admin on launchpad.net
[07:27] <mrchicago> yeah nick is from a book
[07:27] <nomasteryoda> Amaranth, just cool
[07:27] <pepsi> oh
[07:27] <nomasteryoda> first time I have seen his name on any activity...
[07:27] <nomasteryoda> but then again, I have not poked around much cept here
[07:27] <mrchicago> hehe
[07:27] <mrchicago> its all good
[07:28] <mrchicago> is transcode on the cd
[07:28] <docgnome> *grunt* where can i get the minicom pkg?
[07:28] <mrchicago> i dont know if the tar ball will install right
[07:28] <WebLOCH> Anyone here done any work with distributed computing ?
[07:28] <nalioth> mrchicago: no it is not
[07:28] <eagleye> Can I use Gaim to log in to my yahoo account?
[07:28] <Amaranth> eagleye: yes
[07:29] <mrchicago> ok
[07:29] <kataklysm> someone help me solve this problem when doing an update:   E: /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.08_all.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/X11/fonts', which is also in package xfonts-base
[07:29] <glick> yahoo messenger sucks
[07:29] <glick> its all sex bots
[07:29] <eagleye> Then Why does it kick me off
[07:29] <mrchicago> ill have to do it the old fashioned way
[07:29] <Amaranth> eagleye: and irc, msn, aim, and more
[07:29] <mrchicago> anyone have any cool repos i can add on to my source list
[07:29] <eagleye> it says I used another machine or device....
[07:29] <Amaranth> eagleye: network issues, yahoo released a new update that broke things, alignment of the planets prevents connection: pick one ;)
[07:29] <durt> you probably dont want to be adding random repos...
[07:30] <Ninjew> Hey does anybody know of a linux app that can take mp3s tagged with apev3 and change that to id3v2?
[07:31] <nomasteryoda> just ordered my Breezy discs... for our LUG...
[07:31] <nomasteryoda> can't wait
[07:31] <eagleye> well, How do I talk to all the people that I had on yahoo messenger, when I was using windows.
[07:31] <nomasteryoda> people are very excited about Ubunu
[07:31] <Amaranth> nomasteryoda: i just got my hoary CDs a month ago
[07:31] <kataklysm> anyone know how to solve this problem?
[07:31] <nomasteryoda> wow
[07:31] <kataklysm> someone help me solve this problem when doing an update:   E: /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.08_all.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/X11/fonts', which is also in package xfonts-base
[07:31] <Amaranth> nomasteryoda: so don't expect them soon
[07:31] <daaku> bob2: i found mime_forward, did the job perfectly
[07:31] <nomasteryoda> i don't
[07:31] <Davey> Amaranth, so, uhm, Smeg is default in 2.12? Good job dude :D
[07:31] <Amaranth> :D
[07:32] <nomasteryoda> Amaranth, they are good adverts for the Linux community... and Ubuntu. People like the packaging..
[07:32] <nomasteryoda> too
[07:32] <Amaranth> if someone would kindly send me a burned cd of breezy colony 5 and a vmware for windows trial by snail mail i'd be able to work on it more
[07:32] <docgnome> I can't use apt-get to get any packages so i need to download one manually. anyone tell me where i can do that?
[07:32] <durt> what packages docgnome?
[07:32] <sasch1> Hi, is there a possibility to install the helpsystem for openoffice?
[07:32] <mrchicago> dont debian have a huge repo
[07:33] <nomasteryoda> Amaranth, If I can I'll do better than that
[07:33] <mrchicago> skype has one
[07:33] <docgnome> durt: minicom to be specific.
[07:33] <nalioth> Amaranth: are you completely cut off now?
[07:33] <nomasteryoda> Amaranth, I might be able to get a legal license for vmware 5 for ya
[07:33] <nomasteryoda> i'll know in a few days
[07:33] <nomasteryoda> honestly
[07:33] <Amaranth> nalioth: i have a dead HD with breezy installed, a windows only dialup internet service, and no way of fixing any of this for at least a month
[07:34] <TokenBad> is bchunk command line based?
[07:34] <nalioth> TokenBad: yes it is
[07:34] <durt> docgnome: http://alioth.debian.org/projects/minicom/
[07:34] <pepsi> bob2, adding key no_hal=true to the applet in gconf seems to make the applet update every minute or so
[07:35] <cyphase> lol, some guy was complaining that the Ubuntu installer is very hands off
[07:35] <cyphase> that's a good thing people
[07:35] <durt> docgnome: wait, that is in the repos, maybe you need backports and extras enabled
[07:35] <cyphase> and you can always go with the expert installer
[07:35] <nomasteryoda> is there a way to turn off the sound module loading from grub line?
[07:36] <docgnome> Alternatly if anyone has a clue how to tell wvdial not to wait for an ok from the init string
[07:36] <docgnome> that would be nice
[07:36] <Davey> Amaranth, what keyboard do you use?
[07:36] <WebLOCH> AT&T commands, I remember the day
[07:36] <Amaranth> Davey: some generic GE thing
[07:37] <mochi\brb> how can i network in ubuntu?
[07:38] <brenner> start by introducing yourself...if people like you, you end up getting connections
[07:38] <cyphase> lol
[07:38] <mrchicago> lol
[07:38] <WebLOCH> mochi\brb, you dont network ubuntu, ubuntu networks you
[07:38] <cyphase> you beat me to it brenner :)
[07:38] <Passion> what dose 'lol' mean?
[07:38] <tritium> nomasteryoda, why not blacklist it instead?
[07:38] <brenner> cyphase: heh. not too cheesy?
[07:38] <WebLOCH> Passion,  the same as "le haha!"
[07:38] <cyphase> nope
[07:38] <tristanmike> Is there anyway I can get my *gulp* microsoft keyboard "extra" keys to work, ie "My Music" "My Documents", etc?
[07:38] <docgnome> WebLOCH: Isn't that only in Soviet Russia?
[07:38] <WebLOCH> docgnome,  haha :)
[07:39] <WebLOCH> docgnome, In soviet russia, car drive you!
[07:39] <cyphase> tristanmike, unfourtanetly, probably not
[07:39] <talios> how does one change a cdrom to mount with exec instead of noexec rights in ubuntu?  I don't see noexec in /etc/fstab - is something else mounting the cdrom drives?
[07:39] <tristanmike> cyphase, cool, thanx
[07:39] <WebLOCH> tristanmike, you can add the meta keys if there is mappings available for them by editing your x configs
[07:39] <mrchicago> any hope for dvdstyler being included in next release
[07:39] <cyphase> each key is definitley detected by ubuntu..
[07:40] <mrchicago> i love that program
[07:40] <tristanmike> WebLOCH, how do I find out?
[07:40] <cyphase> tristanmike, or what WebLOCH said :)
[07:40] <tristanmike> :)
[07:40] <WebLOCH> tristanmike, i would advise you google your keyboard in relation to xconfig, because if you screw it up, you can't fix it haha
[07:41] <WebLOCH> well you can from recovery mode
[07:41] <tristanmike> ok
[07:41] <WebLOCH> your keyboard is probably set to pc105
[07:41] <brenner> mochi\brb: seriously thogh, you need to be more specific
[07:41] <mochi\brb> i got 3 pc here..
[07:41] <tristanmike> 104
[07:41] <mochi\brb> 2 windows and 1 ubuntu..
[07:41] <mochi\brb> how can i connect the three?
[07:41] <WebLOCH> you can add configs for many different keybs/mice but you will need to find them or find a way of hooking the inputs  to add them manually
[07:41] <mochi\brb> my ubuntu pc cant connect to the internet too
[07:41] <cyphase> mochi\brb, plugin the cables
[07:41] <WebLOCH> tristanmike, yeah just one of the defaults
[07:41] <cyphase> do you have wifi?
[07:42] <mochi\brb> cyphase: cables are plugged
[07:42] <mochi\brb> nope
[07:42] <cyphase> hmm
[07:42] <cyphase> how are you set up?
[07:42] <tristanmike> WebLOCH, yeah, they have microsoft keyboards, just not mine, and it's pretty old
[07:42] <cyphase> 3 pcs..
[07:42] <WebLOCH> tristanmike, I did a lot of searching to try and get the rest of my keys working and my mouse
[07:42] <cyphase> all connecting to one router?
[07:42] <mochi\brb> hub
[07:42] <wasabi> Hmm. mysql on Hoary is segfaulting.
[07:42] <wasabi> Yucky.
[07:42] <cyphase> well..
[07:42] <cyphase> and where's the hub go to
[07:42] <cyphase> ?
[07:43] <mochi\brb> the other pc is the server
[07:43] <WebLOCH> !xorg
[07:43] <ubotu> xorg is, like, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:43] <WebLOCH> !x-common
[07:43] <ubotu> WebLOCH: Wish i knew
[07:43] <tristanmike> WebLOCH, what's a good search criteria
[07:43] <cyphase> wasabi, it's working fine for me on my server, and my desktop as a dev environment
[07:43] <WebLOCH> tristanmike, try something like  "[mskeyb]  xorg config"
[07:43] <mrchicago> ok if i get some microcontrollers will ubuntu be able to handle it
[07:44] <WebLOCH> just make sure you have keyboard name in quotes and then xorg in some way
[07:44] <WebLOCH> like "Ms 104" instead of  Ms 104
[07:44] <WebLOCH> !google
[07:44] <ubotu> rumour has it, google is at http://www.google.com/linux
[07:44] <cyphase> mochi\brb, so 2 pcs on 1 side of the hub, server on the other?
[07:44] <WebLOCH> !g
[07:44] <ubotu> WebLOCH: No idea
[07:44] <WebLOCH> !g monkeys
[07:44] <ubotu> Wish i knew, WebLOCH
[07:44] <WebLOCH> !google monkeys
[07:44] <ubotu> WebLOCH: What?
[07:44] <DewDude> there were some nice updates to ubuntu today
[07:44] <WebLOCH> haha
[07:44] <mochi\brb> yeps cyphase
[07:44] <cyphase> k
[07:45] <WebLOCH> !help
[07:45] <brenner> WebLOCH: /msg ubotu
[07:45] <Madpilot> WebLOCH: this bot doesn't do searches, AFAIK
[07:45] <mrchicago> heh
[07:45] <cyphase> mochi\brb, can the computer see each other?
[07:45] <omp> is there a way i can get msttcorefonts for breezy?
[07:45] <mochi\brb> the other 2 windows
[07:45] <cyphase> computers*
[07:45] <WebLOCH> Madpilot, yeah just messing around to find out, didnt mean to bother anyone tho haha
[07:46] <WebLOCH> !command
[07:46] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, WebLOCH
[07:46] <WebLOCH> !commands
[07:46] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, commands is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[07:46] <WebLOCH> !loser
[07:46] <ubotu> WebLOCH: Not a clue
[07:46] <WebLOCH> Thats right.
[07:46] <cyphase> mochi\brb, pm
[07:46] <Madpilot> !tell WebLOCH about msg the bot
[07:46] <WebLOCH> Yeah i know, was less fun that way
[07:47] <wasabi> Seems to be crashing with my libnss_db module.
[07:48] <AL-Ameer> hi ppl
[07:48] <AL-Ameer> sorry to interrupt
[07:48] <WebLOCH> mmm im off to bed
[07:48] <WebLOCH> I hope you all have a nice night!
[07:48] <AL-Ameer> i am NEW to ubuntu or linux
[07:48] <AL-Ameer> i installed a copy and so forth
[07:48] <AL-Ameer> does anybody know how to setup a dial connection to the internet
[07:48] <AL-Ameer> using UBUNTU
[07:48] <AL-Ameer> ??
[07:48] <orue> hi, when I boot up linux and access a networked computer, I can see the shared folder and also all drives (non-shared) with $, like C$, D$. How come?
[07:48] <mrchicago> look up ppp
[07:48] <WebLOCH> AL-Ameer, have you  bothered googling yet?
[07:49] <brenner> AL-Ameer: /msg ubotu dialup
[07:49] <AL-Ameer> yeah i have
[07:49] <WebLOCH> night all
[07:49] <AL-Ameer> i always hit a wall
[07:50] <gpd> mmm breezy
[07:52] <furic> If you where going to bet, how long do you think it will be till breezy is released?
[07:52] <gpd> end of october
[07:52] <JDahl> I would bet on october 5th
[07:52] <dr_willis> Hmm.. Ok.. if one would want to make a video of a "X session" as a example/demo/walkthough - what program would one use?
[07:53] <furic> Cool
[07:53] <gpd> s/hoary/breezy/ broke my X... so a while yet
[07:53] <DualCore> can anybody help me?
[07:53] <brenner> AL-Ameer: did you msg ubotu?
[07:53] <Davey> OK, that just fucking blows
[07:53] <Davey> Amaranth, I've been struggling with my keyboard for months, the media keys weren't doing the right stuff
[07:53] <JDahl> dualcore, just tell us your problem, then we'll see if someone can help or not
[07:53] <Amaranth> Davey: Language.
[07:54] <Davey>  my mute key for example was setting the F Lock on and off
[07:54] <userver> Hello..
[07:54] <linner> userver: hello
[07:54] <Amaranth> Davey: That's....odd.
[07:54] <Davey> Amaranth, turns out, I just had to hit the connect button on the base and the keyboard to re-detect it... and voila :/
[07:54] <DualCore> i cant be root... su doesnt work... i typed in the apssword correctly
[07:54] <Davey> DualCore, sudo su
[07:54] <Davey> DualCore, but just use sudo
[07:54] <Amaranth> Davey: lmao
[07:54] <bob2> DualCore: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[07:54] <gpd> still keep getting 'failed to initialize HAL'... :(
[07:54] <bob2> DualCore: tho, the installer did mention this
[07:54] <DualCore> ok
[07:54] <DualCore> thanks
[07:55] <cyphase> Breezy is going to be release October 13
[07:55] <userver> I want see TELEVISION in my Ubuntu.. can i do that?.. But i don't know the  ip or adress.. I know only the site in internet.. http://www.canal13.cl
[07:55] <Davey> Amaranth, that sucks so bad :/
[07:55] <linner> cyphase: I can not wait
[07:55] <cyphase> me neither :)
[07:55] <Amaranth> i can!
[07:55] <Amaranth> i have no choice ;)
[07:55] <linner> I'm having to use Suse on my laptop right now because of serious hardware issues
[07:55] <dhonn> how do i install opera 8.5 for ubuntu 5.10?
[07:55] <cyphase> lol
[07:55] <Chameleon22> can anyone recomend a nice webapp to organise/keep track of music CD's
[07:55] <linner> Amaranth: of course you have a choice
[07:55] <cyphase> i have it on a test machine, but i want it to be stable so it can go on my main box
[07:55] <Amaranth> plus on october 13th users at large are going to pound on smeg and file bug reports
[07:56] <cyphase> yea
[07:56] <Amaranth> or at least pound on it
[07:56] <cyphase> smeg still has problems where it won't save your changes
[07:56] <Amaranth> some might file reports, the others will just complain on their livejournal ;)
[07:56] <Madpilot> !tell dhonn about opera
[07:56] <cyphase> or their myspace
[07:56] <cyphase> ;)
[07:56] <Amaranth> cyphase: no one has given me enough information to fix this
[07:57] <Amaranth> cyphase: plus i just send commands to pyxdg, most of the 'smeg' bugs are pyxdg bugs
[07:57] <dhonn> gee thanks for the automated response
[07:57] <gpd> ubotu: solution to HAL problems?
[07:57] <ubotu> gpd: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[07:57] <dhonn> it didnt work
[07:57] <tristanmike> cyphase, I kinda figure it out, I have a lot of keys working now, like "My Documents" opens my home folder
[07:57] <Amaranth> of course i helped write the commands... ;)
[07:58] <omp> hmm
[07:58] <cyphase> lol
[07:58] <omp> how do i get beep-media-player to play music from a cd? :X
[07:58] <cyphase> tristanmike, cool
[07:58] <tristanmike> cyphase, I did it via the "Keyboard Shortcuts" option but there are a few that I can't set in there, how would I set them to other programs?
[07:58] <dhonn> Does anyone know how to install Opera 8 point 5 on Ubuntu 5.10?
[07:58] <cyphase> tristanmike, no idea
[07:59] <cyphase> i haven't tried
[07:59] <tristanmike> cyphase, ok, thanks
[07:59] <brenner> dhonn: download the deb file from the official site and install it?
[07:59] <mrchicago> god i hope this works
[07:59] <ce_17> hiiiii
[07:59] <cyphase> maybe using x keybindings, like WebLOCK was saying
[08:00] <hovendal> is it possible to generate a config file, from which you can compilate a new kernel, from your current configuration settings ?
[08:00] <dr_willis> dhonn,  i just downloaded the deb's and dpkg -i whtever.deb them
[08:00] <dhonn> doesnt work depends on libqt3c102-mt
[08:00] <hovendal> including compilating the modules into the kernel
[08:00] <dr_willis> dhonn,  i think i did have to get the static linked version
[08:00] <dhonn> i have libqt3-mt installed
[08:01] <dr_willis> it does work. :P just need static.. I rmeber that now.
[08:01] <dhonn> i dpkg -i it it needs libqt3c102-mt
[08:01] <dr_willis> it dident put an icon in the menus either
[08:01] <dhonn> opera doesnt distribute it
[08:01] <dr_willis> "staticially compiled" version is what ya need to get. let  me see if i can find the file name
[08:02] <dr_willis>  opera-static_8.02-20050727.1-qt_en_i386.de
[08:02] <dr_willis> .deb :P
[08:02] <bucky> would someone tell kataklysm to stop trolling in #debian
[08:02] <dhonn> thanks
[08:02] <mrchicago> it didnt work
[08:02] <dhonn> is that the ubuntu package or debian?
[08:03] <mrchicago> wont compile
[08:03] <dr_willis> i forget. :P i dont think its the ubuntu one.. I installed one - got that error.. went back and got the static one from somewhere ontheir site
[08:03] <owyhee> hey guys
[08:03] <dr_willis> I perfer Firefox to Opera.
[08:03] <dr_willis> :P
[08:03] <SQFreak> So, my computer is only recognizing 1GB of my 1.5GB of RAM according to /proc/meminfo. Any suggestions? I'm using kernel 2.6.13-rc3 compiled for a Pentium M (which is what I have).
[08:03] <owyhee> what's the meaning of Preview Release?
[08:04] <nalioth> owyhee: means it's not ready for stable use
[08:04] <owyhee> roger. a beta
[08:04] <dr_willis> "Not ready for Prime Time"
[08:04] <nalioth> owyhee: means you should use it on a secondary box and file bugs
[08:04] <mrchicago> man
[08:04] <linner> owyhee: but it also means that you can preview the features if you can get it to work... keyword IF
[08:04] <mrchicago> transcode didnt install
[08:04] <dhonn> firefox is slow
[08:04] <nalioth> gpd: it grips well?
[08:05] <nalioth> bye y'all
[08:05] <nalioth> the storm decided lousiana was more tempting
[08:05] <dhonn> xul is slow for some reason on linux
[08:05] <dhonn> only under linux too
[08:05] <hovendal> can somebody help with some kernel compilation ?
[08:07] <brenner> linner: hello?  how's your freezing problem from a few days ago?
[08:07] <linner> brenner: hey there :)
[08:07] <linner> brenner: well.... it's been resolved... I can't install it to save my life!
[08:07] <scumbo> hovendal, depends on what help you need.
[08:07] <linner> so I'm using Suse 10 right now
[08:08] <dell500> how do i burn a dvd from IFO, VSI, and XVO files?
[08:08] <dr_willis> dell500,  thers several dvd burner front end/tools in the repositories.
[08:08] <brenner> linner: you gave up?!  i thought nalioth would've fixced it right up...
[08:08] <dr_willis> not that ive used any. :P i did see them listed however
[08:08] <dhonn> ok im tired of upera, fast at the expense of latency, just isnt snappy
[08:08] <linner> brenner: nalioth did the best he could; unfortunately, my hardware is far too new
[08:08] <linner> :(
[08:09] <brenner> linner: so switching to VESA didn't fix it?
[08:09] <pepsi> how can i find out which version of the video4linux drivers are used in the latest kernel? cause the v4l people have been breaking and fixing it lately.. the version in 2.16.12-8 is more broken than whats in cvs
[08:09] <Jeniessa> hi
[08:09] <Jeniessa> can i ask
[08:09] <daejavu> where can i find all the packages that i downloaded from Synaptic ?
[08:09] <Jeniessa> about dual os
[08:09] <dell500> doesn't k3b work?
[08:10] <brenner> Jeniessa: sure. ask away
[08:10] <Jeniessa> i want to install win98
[08:10] <Jeniessa> and ubuntu
[08:10] <Jeniessa> what should be first?
[08:10] <Jeniessa> to install?
[08:10] <hovendal> scumbo: im just wondering if it possible to make a config file without having to use the menuconfig.. i mean, i just would like to compile my current settings, modules etc in to the kernel...
[08:10] <brenner> Jeniessa: windows
[08:10] <linner> brenner: I couldn't even get that far
[08:10] <Jeniessa> i got error while install it
[08:10] <dell500> ah ha dvd shrink
[08:10] <brenner> Jeniessa: installing windows later will wipe out grub
[08:10] <linner> so... I downloaded from opensuse.org the beta version of SuSE 10 and it's running fine
[08:11] <pepsi> hi ksmurf
[08:11] <daejavu> Jeniessa: what kinda error ?
[08:11] <Jeniessa> so 1st windows?
[08:11] <Jeniessa> error in base system
[08:11] <pepsi> Jeniessa, windows will clobber the MBR
[08:11] <brenner> Jeniessa: easiest, yes.
[08:11] <ksmurf> pepsi that worked more.....
[08:11] <omp> where does ubuntu mount audio cd's? :)
[08:11] <pepsi> ksmurf, more? not fully? :(
[08:11] <brenner> linner: that's no good...ad yet you're still in here. :)
[08:11] <linner> brenner: but I did take your advise
[08:11] <brenner> s/ad/and
[08:11] <mikhail^> omp: i don't think it does...
[08:11] <Jeniessa> btw
[08:11] <linner> I installed windows first and then on a second partition installed SuSE
[08:11] <daejavu> Jeniessa:  win98 will overrite the MBR ... it dosent have anything like a dual boot option .. u need to install it first and then Ubuntu
[08:11] <linner> works great!
[08:12] <scumbo> hovendal, I don't know any way to do that.  There might be a tool, but I don't know of one.
[08:12] <linner> just wish I knew how to use the YaST
[08:12] <Jeniessa> any1 using cedega
[08:12] <hovendal> scumbo: ok - thanks for asking anyway
[08:12] <omp> mikhail^: it automounts them for me (i use breezy)
[08:12] <brenner> linner: heh...i don't recall telling you how to dualboot. :)
[08:12] <linner> brenner: I know... I love this room! The people are fantastic
[08:12] <Jeniessa> i want to compile it
[08:12] <Jeniessa> then use
[08:12] <ksmurf> but cat /proc/acpi/battery/Bat1/status says present yes but then Unable to read battery status
[08:12] <linner> brenner: You did... I asked you if I should install it first or second
[08:12] <mikhail^> omp: are you sure it's an audio cd?
[08:12] <linner> you told me first
[08:12] <pepsi> ksmurf, but does the applet work?
[08:13] <mikhail^> omp: at any rate, 'mount' should be able to tell you where it's mounted.
[08:13] <brenner> linner: lol...i guess my memory is worst than i though
[08:13] <Jeniessa> i want to compile cedega and use it
[08:13] <ksmurf> yes for ac/bat.... but no battery level.  tahnks.
[08:13] <daejavu> Jeniessa, u play games ?
[08:13] <Jeniessa> any1 can help me?
[08:13] <ksmurf> thanks
[08:13] <Jeniessa> i want
[08:13] <AL-Ameer> can ubuntu read mp3s
[08:13] <Jeniessa> ya ya
[08:13] <Dalik01> I was messing round with my packages, trying to upgrade firefox to 1.0.7 and after I finally did the upgrade firefox wont finish loading if I try it with a normal user, but if I run it with root It loads fine.  Any ideas?
[08:13] <pepsi> ksmurf, :(
[08:13] <pepsi> AL-Ameer, install gstreamer-mad
[08:14] <daejavu> Jeniessa, havent had luck with it ... i tried wine and was a bit lucky but not really ...
[08:14] <AL-Ameer> and wot if the mp3s are on a ntfs file system
[08:14] <AL-Ameer> ?
[08:14] <daejavu> Jeniessa,  in the end i thought of buying Cedega which i couldnt do :S
[08:14] <Jeniessa> thats why i wanna dual os
[08:14] <Jeniessa> :P
[08:14] <Dalik01> ok got it working
[08:14] <pepsi> AL-Ameer, as long as you have the file system mounted, it shouldnt be a problem
[08:14] <dr_willis> Been testing out latest Cedega today
[08:14] <omp> does anyone know how to play audio cd's in beep-media-player? i configured the plugin, but i can't see an option to play it anywhere
[08:14] <brenner> linner: what lappy do you have again?
[08:14] <dr_willis> its working MUCH better now.
[08:14] <linner> v2000z
[08:14] <linner> compaq
[08:15] <AL-Ameer> the command for mounting in ubuntu is ?
[08:15] <pepsi> mount
[08:15] <dr_willis> I got a Compaw V2311 laptop - with Turion64 CPU
[08:15] <daejavu> Jeniessa, use Synaptic to install Wine  ... configure it and give it a shot .. c what happens
[08:15] <dr_willis> :P was a big $500
[08:15] <brenner> linner: maybe you'll have better luck with breezy when it comes out
[08:16] <linner> dr_willis: yeah we're close I have the same chipset
[08:16] <linner> brenner: that's what I'm hoping for
[08:16] <linner> brenner: plus I still have ubuntu on my desktop
[08:16] <linner> absolutely adore it
[08:16] <dr_willis> linner,  Breezy WORKS very well . I had to do a little tweaking.  the older versions dident work worht a Poooo.
[08:16] <dr_willis> linner,  i even got the x200 ati video working decently
[08:16] <linner> I can't get anything up
[08:16] <brenner> omp: iirc, click on eject, then add the cd drive
[08:16] <dr_willis> linner,  :P need some Viagra?
[08:17] <Dalik01> I have a problem when it comes to my dvdrom drive and gnome.  I have to fight with it to stay shut.  Anyone know why this is?
[08:17] <linner> dr_willis: um... nope! :)
[08:17] <brenner> lmao
[08:17] <j-linux> Is there a way to view my Windows partition from my Ubuntu partition?  Every time I try w/ Konqueror it says: "mount: can't find /dev/hda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[08:17] <dr_willis> a GIRL? Girls dont use computers!
[08:17] <brenner> j-linux: /msg ubotu ntfs
[08:17] <j-linux> ubotu?
[08:17] <brenner> the channel bot
[08:18] <linner> dr_willis: what build do you have?
[08:18] <Dalik01> I tried watching a movie the other night and I opened the drive put the disk in and shut it, then it opened.. over and over and over till it just stopped and it mounted the media.
[08:18] <linner> dr_willis: very funny............................NOT
[08:18] <tritium> linner, most of us that run breezy update daily
[08:18] <dr_willis> linner,  whatever i downloaded a week ago. :P  and updates every hr it seems
[08:18] <j-linux> brenner: sorry, I didn't understand that
[08:18] <daejavu> Does anyone has any info on VIDALinux ?
[08:18] <tritium> daejavu, this is #ubuntu
[08:18] <linner> tritium: I can't even get the damned thing to get past the "can't load the x server"
[08:18] <brenner> j-linux: nvm, here:
[08:18] <hovendal> is it possible to make a config file without using the menuconfig, just to compilate a new kernel with my current settings, modules etc... ??
[08:18] <linner> so... I wouldn't know that
[08:18] <brenner> !tell j-linux about ntfs
[08:19] <tritium> linner, did you look at your /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[08:19] <daejavu> tritium, :D ....
[08:19] <tritium> :)
[08:19] <j-linux> brenner: thanks, I'll check that out.
[08:19] <dell500> i've got DMA enabled for my plextor dvd burner, but it's not being deteced
[08:19] <linner> tritium: if I did.... I wouldn't have clue one what to look for
[08:19] <daejavu> tritium, can u tell me where can i find all the packages that were downloaded by synaptic ?
[08:19] <dr_willis> Hmm.. if its Not detected... then HOW can you enable dma on it?
[08:19] <tritium> linner, start by looking for (EE) and (WW)
[08:19] <linner> tritium: I think I did... went through it with Nalioth...
[08:20] <linner> tritium: what does that mean?
[08:20] <Jeniessa> any1 compile cedega?
[08:20] <Jeniessa> i want to use it
[08:20] <Jeniessa> xD
[08:20] <Jeniessa> lucky i dont have any $
[08:20] <dr_willis> Jeniessa,  i feel its worht supporting :P
[08:20] <dr_willis> and a lot easier
[08:20] <tritium> daejavu, not all of them are kept (the cache is cleaned every so often), but look in /var/cache/apt/archives
[08:20] <Jeniessa> supporting?
[08:20] <neotrophy_> Hmmm... no warnings in topic.  Breezy feeling good today?
[08:20] <ksmurf> now my ac indicator works.... my throtling needs work.  I have a 1.4 celeron-d and it says it is no Known to support but in proc/acpi/cpu it says it has 8 throttling states.  any way to fix it?
[08:20] <mrchicago> cool dvdstyler is now installed
[08:20] <tritium> linner, (EE) are errors, and the most critical
[08:20] <tritium> (WW) are warnings, and less critical
[08:20] <mrchicago> going to try with transcode now
[08:21] <mrchicago> see if i cant find a deb package for it
[08:21] <linner> tritium: maybe I'll try tonight's download and give it yet ONE more try
[08:21] <daejavu> tritium, is it possible that i transfer them all to another paritition so that they can be reinstalled somehow if i have to do a reinstallation of the OS ?
[08:21] <tritium> neotrophy_, more or less, save x-common trying to overwrite some fonts in another package
[08:21] <linner> because at this point, the SuSE community does not help one bit
[08:21] <tritium> daejavu, yes, to save download time?
[08:22] <tritium> linner, what video chipset do you have?
[08:22] <linner> tritium: ati 200m
[08:22] <Jeniessa> i wanna compile cedga
[08:22] <Jeniessa> help me any1
[08:22] <tritium> linner, is that supported by fglrx?
[08:22] <daejavu> tritium, exactly .. i did a couple of reinstallations in the past and everytime i had to do the updates and downloads again .. its a pain in the arse if u have a 64k connection :S
[08:22] <linner> tritium: you're speaking greek to me... I have no idea what fglrx is
[08:22] <neotrophy_> Cool.  BTW does anyone here know if you can get composite running on nvidia under breezy?  I've been having troubles with what seems to be a fairly common problem (KDE splash freezing)
[08:23] <tritium> linner, it's ATI's proprietary driver
[08:23] <linner> tritium: I've only been using ubuntu on my desktop for a couple of weeks....
[08:23] <linner> tritium: so how do I get it?
[08:23] <linner> and when I get it...what do I do with it?
[08:23] <tritium> daejavu, yep
[08:23] <daejavu> tritium, so any idea how can i do it ?
[08:23] <tritium> linner, from the repositories
[08:24] <linner> oh... well... I have to have it booted to be able to do that
[08:24] <tritium> daejavu, depends on what you have
[08:24] <linner> and I can't get it booted
[08:24] <linner> it craps out
[08:24] <tritium> linner, can you paste your /var/log/Xorg.0.log in #flood at all?
[08:24] <daejavu> tritium, what do u mean ? like what packages do i have?
[08:24] <neotrophy_> daejavu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[08:24] <linner> tritium: no..... again, I don't have ubuntu on there anymore... I'm using SuSE right now
[08:25] <tritium> daejavu, no, like where do you intend to save the packages?
[08:25] <tritium> linner, okay, can you paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf on pastebin please?
[08:25] <linner> tritium: I'll go download it again right now and see what it does
[08:25] <linner> tritium: if you'll tell me how
[08:25] <daejavu> tritium, i got a good partition (fat32) mounted ... i put my backup on it
[08:25] <j-linux> brenner: thanks, that worked perfectly.  I can see my NTFS partition now...
[08:25] <j-linux> great tool
[08:25] <tritium> hold on, linner, let's verify which driver it's using now
[08:25] <linner> tritium: ok...
[08:25] <dell500> where is modules.conf ??
[08:26] <brenner> j-linux: np
[08:26] <Iamgoodstuff> Hello everyone
[08:26] <Iamgoodstuff> I have a problem I was hoping someone could help me with
[08:26] <j-linux> dell500: just type whereis modules.conf
[08:26] <daejavu> neotrophy_,  dude ... whats that for ? :)
[08:26] <ksmurf> I need to cool this processor down. 63C
[08:27] <brenner> ksmurf: is it a laptop?
[08:27] <neotrophy_> dell500: modules.conf is broken up into smaller file on ubuntu they're in /etc/modprobe.d
[08:27] <neotrophy_> daejavu: sorry, wrong person
[08:27] <brenner> a little OT, but i was wondering what normal temps are supposed to be...
[08:27] <Iamgoodstuff> I am trying to use an ubuntu LiveCD (version 5.04 for AMD64) and I can boot from my cdrom and I press enter to boot it up and everything seems to be doing fine as it is recognizing everything on my system but then it stops and never goes to the Desktop Environment
[08:27] <tritium> dell500, and you don't really want to mess with it
[08:27] <neotrophy_> linner: check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[08:28] <dell500> well for some reason DMA isn't working
[08:28] <dell500> it's enabled, but says it's disabled
[08:28] <tritium> linner, let's see your current xorg.conf first
[08:28] <linner> tritium: ok... I see what you're asking me to give you...
[08:28] <tritium> good
[08:28] <linner> I'm going into flood now
[08:28] <daejavu> tritium, are u facing problems with ur ATI Graphic card Driver ?
[08:28] <brenner> dell500: at bootup you mean?
[08:28] <tritium> daejavu, I don't have one
[08:28] <neotrophy_> dell500 what you're after is hdparm then, I reckon
[08:28] <linner> tritium: are you in that channel?
[08:28] <linner> I don't see you
[08:29] <tritium> join #flood
[08:29] <tritium> heh
[08:29] <ksmurf> brenner yes
[08:29] <brenner> Iamgoodstuff: where abouts does it stop?
[08:29] <Iamgoodstuff> well
[08:29] <Iamgoodstuff> when it is loading
[08:29] <Iamgoodstuff> and recognizing everything on my system I guess
[08:29] <dell500> neotrophy_, i already did that
[08:30] <neotrophy_> ah.. I see
[08:30] <Iamgoodstuff> kind of like when you start a windows machine
[08:30] <Iamgoodstuff> and the screen is black
[08:30] <Iamgoodstuff> like DOS
[08:30] <Iamgoodstuff> and it just stops
[08:30] <Iamgoodstuff> and I haeva  cursor
[08:30] <omp> does anyone here use beep-media-player to listen to CDs?
[08:30] <Iamgoodstuff> and I can type things but they don't do anything
[08:30] <brenner> Iamgoodstuff: so after all the scrolling text?
[08:30] <Iamgoodstuff> I can't input any commands
[08:30] <Iamgoodstuff> yes brenner
[08:30] <Iamgoodstuff> it never goes to the DE
[08:30] <ksmurf> have do you throttle a processor when acpi sees in but linux does not?
[08:31] <ksmurf> the kernel that is?
[08:31] <brenner> hmmm....does the liveCD use vesa as default driver?
[08:31] <linner> hello?
[08:31] <linner> ok...
[08:31] <Iamgoodstuff> deafult driver for what?
[08:31] <linner> I don't know what happened
[08:31] <ksmurf> !acpi
[08:31] <ubotu> ksmurf: Bugger all, i dunno
[08:31] <linner> tritium: I'm going back to flood now
[08:31] <tritium> linner, excess flood.  use pastebin please
[08:31] <linner> tritium: oh...
[08:31] <linner> is there a link tritium you can give me
[08:31] <brenner> Iamgoodstuff: video card...
[08:31] <tritium> !pastebin
[08:31] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:32] <Iamgoodstuff> I'm not sure
[08:32] <linner> tritium: thanks
[08:32] <hovendal> come u wise ubuntu guyz/girlx
[08:32] <tritium> paste it and then give me the URL, linner
[08:32] <linner> tritium: I just pasted it
[08:32] <linner> one sec
[08:32] <esac> hi i am trying to compile my kernel. it worked, i changed a few options and now it doesnt. http://pastebin.com/372617 has the errors. any help appreciated.
[08:32] <neotrophy_> Anyone know if you can get the Composite extension running on nvidia cards under breezy?
[08:32] <linner> tritium: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2481
[08:32] <brenner> Iamgoodstuff: try searching the forum for "freeze" and "livecd"
[08:33] <Iamgoodstuff> I'll try that
[08:33] <hovendal> come u wise ubuntu guyz/girlz... is it possible to make a new config, like automatically with my current modules, settings and etc... ??
[08:33] <brenner> ubuntuforums.org
[08:33] <dell500> wow, gotta make sure the code is enabled before anything can happen
[08:33] <dell500> awesome
[08:33] <neotrophy_> Iamgoodstuff: does ctrl + alt + F1 take you to a login prompt?
[08:34] <linner> tritium: does that mean anything to you?
[08:34] <Iamgoodstuff> Havn't tried that yet
[08:34] <tritium> okay, linner it's using the radeon driver
[08:34] <brenner> omp: you try the method i suggested?
[08:34] <linner> trit
[08:34] <linner> oops
[08:34] <linner> tritium: how can you tell?
[08:34] <cyphase> don't you hate it when people say "There aren't enough programs for Linux. Linux should be able to run Windows programs."
[08:34] <tritium> linner, look under Section "Device"
[08:34] <omp> brenner: i think i'm configuring the plugin wrong :(
[08:34] <linner> ok
[08:35] <snd> is it possible to tell the install cd to do a minimal desktop install?
[08:35] <neotrophy_> Iamgoodstuff:  I've got a theory as to what's happening, but I don't have a clue how to fix or even explain it... So I guess it doesn't matter :)
[08:35] <linner> tritium: so now that you know what it's using... how do I avoid "x server" issues
[08:35] <linner> when I go to reinstall
[08:35] <tritium> snd, no, but you can do a server install, which is really minimal
[08:35] <Iamgoodstuff> well shoopt neotrophy_
[08:35] <snd> also why doesnt ubuntu have xfce/fluxbox or any light wm's to choose from
[08:35] <tritium> snd, it does
[08:36] <omp> brenner: under device i have /dev/hda  and under directory i have /media/cdrom0   (is that wrong?)
[08:36] <snd> oh, i did apt-cache search xfce ... nothing comes up
[08:36] <Tirno> stupid newbie question: I have firefox problems. Last time I had 'em, I was told "use backport", now, I'm told the opposite. That's all fine, but I have little clue how to do it. will commenting backports out of my sources.list and doing an upgrade suffice?
[08:36] <tritium> linner, can't guarantee that you won't have issues if you've had them before, but we can make sure you're using radeon in the future
[08:36] <linner> tritium: how much longer are you going to be on?
[08:36] <tritium> !info xfce
[08:36] <ubotu> xfce: (The Cholesterol Free Desktop Environment), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 3.8.18-2ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 907 kB, Installed size: 2548 kB
[08:36] <brenner> tritium: linner still had the issue using vesa iirc...why would switching to radeon be any different?
[08:36] <NiLz> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2482
[08:36] <tritium> !info fluxbox
[08:36] <ubotu> fluxbox: (Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.9.11-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 626 kB, Installed size: 1988 kB
[08:36] <NiLz> any way to fix this?
[08:36] <tritium> both in universe, snd
[08:36] <brenner> omp: i think /dev/hda is your HDD .../dev/hdc is usually the CD drive
[08:36] <linner> tritium: I'm burning a new install right now...
[08:36] <tritium> linner, for half an hour or so
[08:37] <NiLz> !info icewm
[08:37] <ubotu> icewm: (wonderful Win95-OS/2-Motif-like window manager), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2.18-1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 451 kB, Installed size: 1224 kB
[08:37] <linner> tritium: crap
[08:37] <neotrophy_> YM guess is that it's failing to start X and then leaving you at the virtual console that it does all the bootup reporting on, which it doesn't seem to start  getty on.  So if you flicked to another console, you might get a login prompt. But I wouldn't know why, or how to fix it
[08:37] <snd> im sorry im new to ubuntu/debian style apt-get system... i thought it was possible to grab those things off the a mirror instead of cd?
[08:37] <omp> brenner: my hdd is /dev/sda
[08:37] <linner> brenner: are you going to be on for a while?
[08:37] <brenner> omp: ah
[08:37] <tritium> snd, yes, that's how it's typically done
[08:37] <omp> brenner: /dev/hda        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[08:37] <tritium> linner, I'll wait up
[08:37] <Madpilot> !tell snd about repos
[08:37] <snd> then strange it didnt show up when i searched for it :/
[08:37] <linner> tritium: you'd do that?  wow...
[08:37] <brenner> linner: dunno....tritium seems to know his shit more though. :)
[08:38] <NiLz> does any1 have a problem upgrading firefox?
[08:38] <tritium> brenner, not sure what we'll find
[08:38] <linner> tritium: thank you so so much
[08:38] <tritium> sure, linner
[08:38] <linner> brenner: ok.... got it :)
[08:38] <tritium> brenner, nah
[08:38] <brenner> snd:  it is....if it's asking for your CD, remove it from your sources
[08:39] <omp> brenner: when i click "Check drive..." it shows the amount of tracks and everything, but when i try to open it /media/cdrom0 is empty
[08:39] <killapop> hi all. how do I make a program run at startup
[08:39] <brenner> omp: yeah, dunno really...tried #xmms?
[08:39] <neotrophy_> Ah crap... I've lost the drivers for my second soundcard again :(
[08:39] <tritium> killapop, at boot, or gnome startup?
[08:40] <tritium> lost them?  how do you do that?
[08:40] <killapop> tritium: gnome startup
[08:40] <tritium> killapop, add them to the session and save it
[08:40] <killapop> tritium: i tried that... it does nothing
[08:40] <omp> killapop: System > Preferences > Sessions  (in gnome menu)
[08:41] <tritium> killapop, ^^^
[08:41] <neotrophy_> tritium: updated the kernel acidentally while playing with nvidia drivers.  So I need to rebuild alsa
[08:41] <killapop> omp, tritium: :) thanks.
[08:41] <tritium> neotrophy_, why, do you need newer alsa modules than the kernel provides?
[08:41] <linner> brenner: if nothing else at least now I have an OS that can get me by :)
[08:42] <neotrophy_> I need different ones.  The stock ubuntu kernel doesn't build support for my second card
[08:42] <tritium> hoary?
[08:42] <neotrophy_> both hoary and breezy
[08:42] <Jeniessa> what should 1st to install?
[08:42] <Jeniessa> for dual boot
[08:42] <neotrophy_> But I'm runnign breezy
[08:42] <Jeniessa> ubuntu or windows?
[08:43] <Amaranth> Can someone in the US do me a huge favor? I need a copy of the vmware trial and breezy colony 5 CDs sent to me snail mail so I can work on smeg.
[08:43] <killapop> omp, tritium: if i need to start it up at boot - then what does one do?
[08:43] <brenner> Jeniessa: we already answered this didn't we? :-/
[08:43] <tritium> neotrophy_, breezy too?  wow...
[08:43] <Amaranth> Consider it an easy way to donate to a worthy cause. ;)
[08:43] <Jeniessa> yay
[08:43] <tritium> killapop, use update-rc.d to install an initscript for it
[08:43] <Jeniessa> ubuntu 1st?
[08:43] <esac> is there a guide to using a custom kernel in ubuntu ? how would i update my restricted-modules. would i have to download everything and compile it ?
[08:44] <daejavu> Is there any driver for  "S3 Unichrome"  chip that can enable me for some hardware acceleration ?
[08:44] <killapop> tritium: thanks - I'll go fiddle with that!
[08:44] <tristanmike> thanx all for everything, nite
[08:44] <tritium> esac, the wiki should cover how to use make-kpkg
[08:45] <kataklysm> what is the colony 5 cd?
[08:45] <vbgunz> I have a question regarding Ubuntu backports... Does Breezy come with backports already enabled?
[08:45] <neotrophy_> tritium: It's a very new addition to the alsa trunk, and it needs firmware (although that's also OSS, available from the alsa project).  BTW, it's an echoaudio card, and support would be really nice, in case any maintainers are watching
[08:45] <dell500> once wine is installed, do i need to configure it so it can find my dvd burner??
[08:45] <tritium> neotrophy_, I see
[08:45] <Amaranth> dell500: Why does wine need to find your burner?
[08:46] <dell500> for DVD Decrypter
[08:46] <Amaranth> err
[08:46] <Amaranth> i'm sure there are linux tools for that
[08:46] <vbgunz> there is no dvd decrypter for Linux :(
[08:46] <Amaranth> that's odd
[08:46] <dell500> :(
[08:46] <Amaranth> the author of the original decss is a linux user
[08:47] <dell500> it can't find my burner for some reason
[08:47] <vbgunz> does Breezy come with backports already enabled?
[08:47] <Amaranth> there are probably tools, just not GUI ones
[08:47] <tritium> vbgunz, no
[08:47] <Amaranth> vbgunz: no, but as of colony 5 they are in the sources.list
[08:47] <Amaranth> just commented out
[08:47] <daejavu> Is there any driver for  "S3 Unichrome"  chip that can enable me for some hardware acceleration ?
[08:48] <vbgunz> I am new to Linux so coming from Windows DVD Decrypter was not only the tool of choice but it was the best tool for the choice and was free and tiny... Excellent 5 start program... too bad even on Windows that program has ceased to exist
[08:48] <vbgunz> oh snap... man backports are in the list... I think they've been enabled and I think I've been downloading them :(
[08:48] <vbgunz> every item in synaptics list has a check mark next to it...
[08:49] <linner> brenner, how do you remove software?
[08:49] <vbgunz> man...
[08:49] <linner> brenner, I mean now that i know how to add. :)
[08:49] <kataklysm> is the colony 5 cd the final or is it just another preview? or what?
[08:49] <brenner> linner: synaptic or apt-get ... same way
[08:49] <tritium> kataklysm, not the final
[08:49] <linner> oh really?
[08:49] <tritium> or aptitude ;)
[08:49] <linner> brenner, i'll have to go see
[08:50] <tritium> or dpkg
[08:50] <pef> hello
[08:50] <brenner> linner: note that iirc, dependencies aren't removed.
[08:50] <linner> brenner, what's iirc?
[08:50] <vbgunz> I am on Breezy and haven't really seen any problems... My display and wireless card got picked up which was 2 steps better than Hoary...
[08:50] <brenner> tritium: told you you knew your stuff. :)
[08:50] <tritium> nah ;)
[08:50] <brenner> linner: netspeak ... "if i recall correctly"
[08:50] <neotrophy_> Hmmm... How would I go about getting support for my soundcard incorporated into ubuntu?
[08:51] <tritium> neotrophy_, crimsun is our alsa guru
[08:51] <linner> brenner, ahh... it's been so long since I've used IRC (like 6 years) that I've forgotten my geek speak
[08:51] <brenner> heh
[08:51] <linner> brenner, OHHHHHHHHH... I see...
[08:51] <linner> cool
[08:51] <kataklysm> tritium: so the repos have done put everything that is on that cd up havent they?? i've got 5.10 prv, and i have 0 updates available, so i guess im pretty well current huh?
[08:51] <linner> I love ubunut.
[08:51] <linner> oops
[08:51] <linner> ubuntu
[08:51] <Jeniessa> brenner
[08:51] <brenner> lol
[08:51] <Jeniessa> can i pm u
[08:51] <tritium> kataklysm, if you've updated recently, yes
[08:52] <kataklysm> tritium: last time i updated i had a weird error
[08:52] <neotrophy_> Cool... I know how to get it working.  I'm just wondering how I could make it easier for me (and anyone else with echoaudio cards) when I update the kernel in future.
[08:52] <tritium> x-common, kataklysm ?
[08:52] <vbgunz> Man... I had to mess around and customize Gnome today... I took a trip to gnome-look.org and ended up customizing everything except the mouse icons... I took a step back from my display and just couldn't believe Linux would ever look so good...
[08:52] <kataklysm> yep
[08:52] <brenner> Jeniessa: what for?
[08:52] <kataklysm> so i forced it
[08:52] <kataklysm> and it worked
[08:52] <Jeniessa> just for askin
[08:52] <Jeniessa> can?
[08:52] <kataklysm> didnt really care if it broke or not
[08:52] <kataklysm> heh
[08:52] <tritium> kataklysm, okay, you'll be fine
[08:52] <Jeniessa> i cant follow this irc msg
[08:52] <Jeniessa> too fast
[08:52] <Jeniessa> :P
[08:52] <brenner> Jeniessa: sure
[08:53] <brenner> vbgunz: as opposed to windows? lol
[08:53] <kataklysm> did they put all the fonts in x-common or something?
[08:53] <tritium> Jeniessa, that's where using peoples' nicks can help
[08:53] <tritium> kataklysm, I didn't look at the changes
[08:53] <Jeniessa> yay
[08:53] <kataklysm> how'd u know i had x-common prob?
[08:53] <Jeniessa> i cant pm
[08:53] <kataklysm> did a lot of people get the same prob?
[08:53] <daejavu> tritium, Is there any driver for  "S3 Unichrome"  chip that can enable me for some hardware acceleration ?
[08:53] <tritium> yes, kataklysm
[08:53] <Jeniessa> so if i 1st install ubuntu it will work right?
[08:53] <vbgunz> as opposed to Linux how I remember it... Windows has a nice theme I believe but Gnome atleast the way I customized it... man it looks great
[08:53] <Jeniessa> then win98?
[08:53] <tritium> daejavu, i'm not familiar with that chipset
[08:53] <linner> brenner, if synaptic says that i have an app installed but i don't see it in my applications list... where else might I look?
[08:53] <Jeniessa> it will work right?
[08:54] <daejavu> tritium, know anyone who can help in it ?
[08:54] <Madpilot> Jeniessa: no, win98 first. Linux has a more intelligent install program than Windows...
[08:54] <tritium> Jeniessa, you'd be better off doing it in reverse order
[08:54] <vbgunz> friggin Gnome is sexy :P
[08:54] <tritium> daejavu, who makes that chipset?
[08:54] <Jeniessa> ok
[08:54] <tritium> oh, duh
[08:54] <vbgunz> Windows 98 is ROCK SOLID...
[08:54] <brenner> linner: a lot of apps won't add themselves to the menu....usualy run it through a reminal, or create a shortcut using smeg
[08:54] <vbgunz> sorry, I meant bullet proof
[08:55] <brenner> s/reminal/terminal
[08:55] <brenner> bloody laptop k/b
[08:55] <linner> brenner, ewe... ok... what is reminal?
[08:55] <vbgunz> :)
[08:55] <brenner> see above :)
[08:55] <daejavu> tritium, VIA .... its a builtin graphic chipset with S3 Unichrome as the chips manufactre
[08:55] <Madpilot> linner: Applications menu - System Tools - Terminal
[08:55] <brenner> vbgunz: linux is a lot easier to customize imo
[08:55] <kataklysm> if i have already compiled a kernel for the 386 kernel, but i want to use the 686 kernel, can i just cd to the directory where i compiled once im in the 686, and make install, without having to make all over?  the reason i asked is because earlier in the 686 kernel i had a problem with it not being able to make, because it couldnt locate the "build" directory
[08:56] <Madpilot> linner: NOT Root Terminal, which is a different thing...
[08:56] <linner> maddler, ok
[08:56] <linner> oops
[08:56] <linner> Madpilot, ok... thanks
[08:56] <vbgunz> yeah, I really appreciate setting Gnome to my taste like that... Windows will bite that soon and call it innovation ;)
[08:56] <linner> what is the command Madpilot to get the applications to show in the menu?
[08:56] <sonojacker> Maybe this have been addressed mucg, b4 today but: anyone having problems with the x server (x-common) updates today?
[08:57] <sonojacker> at breezy
[08:57] <kataklysm> sonojacker: yes
[08:57] <kataklysm> u want the solution to it?
[08:57] <Madpilot> linner: you can make a launcher (a shortcut, in Windows terms) for apps that dont' have menu entries
[08:57] <brenner> linner: you need to use smeg for that:
[08:57] <brenner> !smeg
[08:57] <ubotu> rumour has it, smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[08:57] <tritium> daejavu, there are some threads on ubuntuforums.org about that chipset
[08:57] <kataklysm> sudo  dpkg --install --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_*.deb
[08:57] <sonojacker> pls kataklysm, you ll be so kind; I was forcing lots of packages but dont know if that's the right path
[08:57] <kataklysm> that fixes the problem
[08:57] <vbgunz> hey I know I can mount my Windows partitions and I even got the mounting on startup... My question is they're NTFS read only... without too much hassle is it possible to write to them too?
[08:57] <linner> Madpilot, brenner oh gosh... ok... is smeg a command in terminal?
[08:57] <brenner> breezy's coming with smeg by default, yes?
[08:58] <daejavu> tritium, cool ... lemme check emm ..
[08:58] <Amaranth> brenner: yep
[08:58] <psusi> is there a way to get fdisk to create a partition that does not start on an even cylinder boundery?
[08:58] <Madpilot> linner: no. see the ubotu post just below brenner's above
[08:58] <tritium> daejavu, this seems to indicate that at least the VESA driver will work: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=14025
[08:58] <linner> Madpilot, oh okay
[08:58] <linner> good
[08:58] <sonojacker> I did that already kataklysm, but that states it is the right pad.  Thank you very much pal.
[08:59] <tritium> vbgunz, it's very risky
[08:59] <kataklysm> no prob sonojacker
[08:59] <linner> Madpilot, it says I have smeg in synaptic
[08:59] <masterbeater> holo
[08:59] <daejavu> tritium,  yeah the vesa driver works fine .. iam using that one ... but i need atleast some acceleration so that i can try some games :D
[08:59] <linner> Madpilot, so where do I find it??? I dont' see it in my menu dorp down
[08:59] <psusi> there HAS to be a way to get fdisk to create a partition that does not start on a cylinder boundery
[08:59] <Madpilot> linner: are you running Breezy?
[08:59] <linner> no
[08:59] <linner> 5.04
[08:59] <linner> hope to be on my laptop soon
[09:00] <tritium> daejavu, it's not good when daniels posts that unichrome support will never be "good"
[09:00] <vbgunz> tritium: I bet
[09:00] <Madpilot> linner: I'm running 5.04 too, and smeg isn't in my Synaptic at all...
[09:00] <linner> hmmm...
[09:00] <kataklysm> Breezy is an improvement over 5.04
[09:00] <kataklysm> big improvement at tat
[09:00] <kataklysm> that*
[09:00] <brenner> kataklysm: i'd hope it'd be :)
[09:00] <dell500> Breezy is out?
[09:00] <kataklysm> dell500: its preview
[09:00] <dell500> so not full?
[09:00] <tritium> dell500, not yet
[09:00] <dell500> k
[09:01] <Madpilot> !tell linner about smeg
[09:01] <Amaranth> if the bot suggests backports it's wrong
[09:01] <daejavu> tritium, lolz ..  lookz like i have to buy an AGP card anyway :D
[09:01] <kataklysm> dell500: its close enough, i'd go ahead and get it and just not update until the final is out and dist-upgrade when it comes out.. that is if everything works after you install
[09:01] <Jeniessa> i got error
[09:01] <dell500> so does anyone know how to get int othe config for the wine?
[09:01] <Jeniessa> its not installing the base
[09:01] <vbgunz> does Gnome support an XP Start Menu type menu? One click and you see everything?... Just curious...
[09:01] <Amaranth> the correct way to get it on hoary is to run this command from a terminal: wget http://dev.realistanew.com/smeg/installsmeg && sudo python installsmeg
[09:02] <tritium> dell500, if you use wine and winetools from winehq.com, you might have more luck.  winetools is nice for setting up wine
[09:02] <linner> Madpilot, thanks.. I got that message from brenner
[09:02] <Madpilot> vbgunz: why would it do a daft thing like that?
[09:02] <Amaranth> vbgunz: the three menus at the top are more or less the same thing
[09:02] <linner> Madpilot, but I see it in my synaptic
[09:02] <linner> this is what it tells me simple menu editing
[09:02] <linner> A simple menu editor that can add and edit new entries and
[09:02] <linner> menus. It implements the freedesktop.org menu spec and works with GNOME, KDE,
[09:02] <linner> and XFCE.
[09:02] <Madpilot> linner: so what happens when you type 'smeg' in a terminal?
[09:02] <Amaranth> linner: they you have it installed, it should be in Applications->System Tools
[09:03] <tritium> linner, are you still burning that install cd?
[09:03] <psusi> how can I convince fdisk to create a partition that starts at sector 63?
[09:03] <liable> work is so overated..
[09:03] <vbgunz> I know... im use to the menus by now... Just thought there would be something a bit more advanced... something that showed me more...
[09:03] <linner> Madpilot, hold on a sec
[09:03] <linner> tritium, I just literally put it in my laptop
[09:03] <tritium> cool
[09:03] <linner> linner, it's booting hold on
[09:04] <linner> i'm going through the intial motions now trit
[09:04] <tritium> Sometimes I have to tell myself to be patient too ;)
[09:04] <linner> tritium, sorry
[09:04] <linner> tritium, well considering you're doing me a HUGE favor... I don't blame you wanting to go to bed!
[09:04] <linner> tritium, do you want me to PM you with this?
[09:04] <tritium> I'm just teasing you for using your own nick
[09:04] <tritium> sure, linner
[09:04] <Madeye> guys, where I can get w32codecs? it has no candidate ?
[09:05] <linner> teasing me?
[09:05] <brenner> lol
[09:05] <Madpilot> vbgunz: I actually like the way Gnome splits the menus out; I never used the Start menu in Windows because navigating it was awkward - I used hordes of desktop icons instead...
 linner it's booting hold on
[09:05] <tritium> :)
[09:05] <kataklysm> i just installed like 300ish updates in Breezy, now im kinda skeptical on whether i want to reboot or not.. kinda got my fingers crossed..
[09:05] <shaoqi> hi. i tried to install adobe acrobat7.0, but during the setup, it says "  Cannot make directory "/usr/lib/Adobe/Acrobat7.0.1"  "
[09:05] <shaoqi> how can i solve this?
[09:06] <kataklysm> shaoqi: sudo
[09:06] <linner> brenner, you know what i mean man :)
[09:06] <vbgunz> I have an important question regarding Breezy... Does it come by default with a CD/DVD burner *or* do I need to install one? I am looking but not sure maybe missing it. If I need to install one, which is best or at least very straight forward?
[09:06] <brenner> !tell Madeye about w32codecs
[09:06] <shaoqi> kataklysm, i don't have any chance to type
[09:06] <shaoqi> when do i type it?
[09:06] <kataklysm> is it a package? or a binary?
[09:07] <vbgunz> I like the three menu buttons too on Gnome... I just got so used to XPs start menu... I really appreciated one click everything like that... just a preference
[09:07] <shaoqi> binary i think.
[09:07] <kataklysm> sudo ./youradobeinstaller
[09:07] <psusi> omfg this is absurd.... why the hell does fdisk insist that partitions start on cylinder bounderies?  my existing partition starts at sector 63 damnit
[09:07] <brenner> vbgunz: nautilus has cd/dvd burn capabilities iirc
[09:08] <Jeniessa> its not installing the base
[09:08] <vbgunz> ok I am going to try it now
[09:08] <Jeniessa> base system
[09:08] <Jeniessa> why?
[09:08] <brenner> Jeniessa: have you installed win yet?
[09:08] <vbgunz> I hope burning with Nautilus works ;)
[09:08] <vbgunz> will let you know
[09:08] <Jeniessa> just installing
[09:08] <Jeniessa> it is 2nd time
[09:08] <Jeniessa> xD
[09:08] <brenner> Jeniessa: the windows base system won't install?
[09:08] <Jeniessa> ya
[09:08] <Jeniessa> error
[09:08] <brenner> not our problem then....
[09:08] <Jeniessa> xD
[09:09] <Jeniessa> why?
[09:09] <Jeniessa> so compatibility?
[09:09] <goo> I wonder if Ubuntu installs nicely on a mylex 960 raid.. Will find out soon :))
[09:09] <Jeniessa> means?
[09:09] <brenner> 'cos it's a windows issue....if you mean _ubuntu's_ base system....
[09:09] <Jeniessa> ubuntu base system
[09:09] <Jeniessa> xD
[09:09] <Jeniessa> it is not installin
[09:09] <Jeniessa> i mean not done
[09:09] <shaoqi> kataklysm, thanks:)
[09:10] <Jeniessa> and have errors on it
[09:10] <brenner> Jeniessa: bad CD maybe
[09:10] <kj> I am trying to update ubuntu and I get this error "E: /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox-gnome-support_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/libmozgnome.so', which is also in package firefox-gnome-support" ......... can I just remove it?
[09:10] <Jeniessa> yay
[09:10] <Jeniessa> ok
[09:10] <Jeniessa> xD
[09:12] <vbgunz> brenner: thanks I believe Nautilus is burning those pictures from my Windows partition now... Nice ;)
[09:12] <brenner> vbgunz: np
[09:13] <deepsight> hellou ppl, i am having trouble when i play mp3s from my usb drive the right channel only starts to sound weird and annoying
[09:13] <deepsight> when i play sounds directly from my pc is ok
[09:13] <deepsight> any ideas?
[09:14] <vbgunz> are any books for Ubuntu Linux coming out?
[09:14] <tiranaure> bonjour
[09:14] <tiranaure> quelqun peut m'aider our cedega
[09:14] <ColonelKernel> is there any way I can just turn my local mail server OFF
[09:15] <tritium> #ubuntu-fr
[09:15] <adl> tiranaure: english please here ... or #ubuntu-fr
[09:15] <tiranaure> thx
[09:16] <brenner> vbgunz: doubt it to be honest
[09:17] <vbgunz> Ubuntu is based on Debian... if I bought a guide "small book" about Debian do you think I will be able to carry that knowledge over to Ubuntu?
[09:17] <brownie17> hey, can anyone tell me if there is a way to password a folder?
[09:17] <tritium> definitely, vbgunz
[09:17] <Madpilot> vbgunz: most of it, probably. the command line stuff, certainly.
[09:17] <deepsight> vbgunz, i still learn with a redhat 3 book
[09:18] <omp> you can just use online documentations :P
[09:18] <brownie17> how do you password a folder?
[09:18] <Deekin> vbguna: http://www.togaware.com/linux/survivor/ has an online Debian book
[09:19] <tritium> vbgunz, the Debian Reference is also good
[09:19] <JDahl> Deekin, there is no easy way to do that with stock Linux.
[09:19] <neotrophy_> hmmm... that's new  "sudo make-kpkg --append_to_version=-9-amd64-generic modules_image"  quits with... The contained UTS_VERSION string: "2.6.12" does not match expectations: "2.6.12-9-amd64-generic"
[09:20] <JDahl> brownie17, that was for you
[09:20] <vbgunz> I need a book that will tell me about file structure such as "what you put/find in /etc, /initrd, /lost+found, etc..." ... I so badly wish to jump into some program configurations such as eye of gnome and some other programs but I have no idea the structure of these programs... Coming from Windows, it was easy if it was under "Program Files" or the registry *but* being new to Linux... its like a jungle in Nautilus
[09:20] <vbgunz> thanks for that link Deekin!
[09:20] <JDahl> brownie17, if it's important you can encrypt your files
[09:20] <Deekin> vbgunz: No problem!
[09:20] <brownie17> JDahl, nah its probably not, just wanted to learn
[09:21] <brenner> vbgunz: that's linux in general...
[09:21] <brenner> tldp.org is a good one iirc
[09:21] <vbgunz> Deekin major thanks! that book looks good... I hope they have a PDF version, would like to print it out :)
[09:21] <JDahl> brownie17, you have to normal owner/group/anyone access properties ofcourse... look at man chmod
[09:21] <JDahl> s/to/the
[09:21] <Madpilot> vbgunz: O'Reilly print the best actual books for Linux (and computers generally), if you're looking for a real dead-tree book
[09:22] <Ex-Cyber> if I'm going to buy a new mainboard, what's a good PCI Express chipset to choose for smooth sailing with Ubuntu (or free operating systems in general)?
[09:23] <Deekin> vbgunz: Hehehe hope it helps
[09:23] <Ex-Cyber> actually AGP chipset recommendations are welcome too
[09:23] <Ex-Cyber> as I'm really not sold on PCIe in general
[09:24] <Tirno> could anyone advise me on how to repair my firefox? Or should I install another browser/use lynx to go find the solution? I've commented out backports from my sources.list, but that doesn't seem to have sufficed
[09:24] <vbgunz> brenner: I know but sometimes I feel like the Linux file structure is a real maze... On Windows when I couldn't find something I would search using Agent Ransack... it was good at finding almost anything but the Gnome search tool doesn't find things... Searching for something was my last line of offense and on Linux... finding how to configure things seems to get away from me :(
[09:24] <tritium> Tirno, you also have to purge the package you have installed currently
[09:25] <vbgunz> Madpilot: thanks! I was thinking about getting one of those pocket guides but if Ubuntu is not soon to come out, I would hope at least Debian is covered ;)
[09:25] <Tirno> ok, which I do how? I've done man apt-get, but didn't find what I was looking for
[09:26] <Tirno> ah
[09:26] <Tirno> found it
[09:26] <JDahl> Tirno, you need "dpkg --purge"
[09:26] <vbgunz> brb
[09:27] <linner> brenner, now it looks like i'm having kernel issues so i have to redownload
[09:28] <neotrophy_> Anyoen here good with making modules?  I'm having troubles that I haven't had before.
[09:28] <brenner> linner: at least you're not on dialup. :)
[09:28] <linner> brenner, quite the contrary .. I have fiber!
[09:28] <linner> woo hoo!
[09:29] <tritium> linner, by the way, here's the modification time for the Colony 5 amd64 install cd: 23-Sep-2005 18:59
[09:29] <linner> tritium, what's that mean?
[09:29] <adl> actually there is a book my michael kofler on addison-wesley called "ubuntu linux" - but it focusses on end-user issues mostly as i understand
[09:29] <tritium> If the image you downloaded was from before that time, you might have luck with Colony 5
[09:29] <linner> I shouldn't download?
[09:29] <linner> ok...
[09:29] <linner> I did
[09:29] <tritium> you should
[09:30] <linner> so 18:59 who's time?
[09:30] <brenner> vbgunz: i'll be first the admit i don't know enough about the file structure...but i think it's more organised ... each directory stands for something eg documentation for programs can usually be found in /usr/share/doc
[09:30] <Madeye> !tell madeye
[09:30] <brenner> *first to admit
[09:30] <Madpilot> linner: probably UTC/Zulu
[09:30] <apsync> hmm I cannot install the update x-common, is that important?
[09:30] <Madeye> !tell madeye clearlook
[09:30] <linner> Madpilot, oh... thank you!
[09:31] <brownie17> JDahl, suppose i was to want to encrypt my files, would i need to download extra software? and if so, what?
[09:31] <Madpilot> linner: or is that a listing from your own system?
[09:31] <linner> you folks really are the best.. you know this right?
[09:31] <brownie17> !tell brownie17 clearlook
[09:31] <linner> no, it's coming from the ubuntu night build site
[09:31] <dorkiaa> I had a problem with ubuntu live cd. When I used "The GIMP", the mouse got crazy
[09:31] <neotrophy_> Ok, new error... "/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-9-amd64-generic$ sudo make-kpkg --append_to_version=-9-amd64-generic modules_image" now results in... "The changelog says we are creating 2.6.12, but I thought the version is 2.6.12-9-amd64-generic"
[09:31] <zorba64> !clearlooks
[09:31] <ubotu> zorba64: Wish i knew
[09:32] <dorkiaa> It started blinking and pressing on the desktop
[09:32] <JDahl> brownie17, I never had the use to do it so I dont much about it, but I think you first need to read up on installing gnu-gp (or gnu-pgp), which gives you your own encryption key
[09:32] <vbgunz> brenner: thanks... here is just an example... If I wanted to mess or break "eye of gnome" I have no idea where it's configuration files are... I have no idea what files to mess with to break it... I don't wish to break it but I wish to mess with it and if it breaks... it's how I learn *but* first I need to learn how to find the files for any given program :)
[09:32] <tritium> vbgunz, dpkg -L <packagename>
[09:33] <omp> ubuntu was great until now :X
[09:33] <JDahl> brownie17, I think that's the biggest hurdle
[09:33] <omp> i can't get ati drivers to work in breezy
[09:33] <vbgunz> tritium what does that do?
[09:33] <cevizoglu> vbgunz: I break apps on Linux by changing the source code and recompiling  ;)
[09:33] <linner> omp, are you getting error messages at the install stage?
[09:33] <tritium> vbgunz, lists the files in a given package
[09:33] <omp> linner: no the install went fine
[09:33] <poyie> ei
[09:33] <vbgunz> it will list there location?
[09:34] <vbgunz> all of them?
[09:34] <tritium> vbgunz, yes, their locations
[09:34] <tritium> try it
[09:34] <ocelado> hello
[09:34] <vbgunz> awesome, really awesome
[09:34] <linner> omp, i was going to give you a suggestion brenner gave me
[09:34] <brownie17> JDahl, ok
[09:34] <tiranaure> who have an free ftp serveur ?
[09:34] <omp> linner: but it still is using mesa3d drivers
[09:34] <brownie17> !tell brownie17 about gnu-gp
[09:34] <tritium> omp, which chipset?
[09:34] <brownie17> !tell brownie17 about gnu-pgp
[09:34] <neotrophy_> So noone able to help me with building these modules with make-kpkg?
[09:34] <vbgunz> just one question... How do I find the real name of a program in case the obvious is not what it should be?
[09:34] <apsync> hmm I cannot install the update x-common, is that important?
[09:34] <tritium> apsync, most people are just forcing overwrite
[09:35] <Madpilot> !tell brownie17 about gpg
[09:35] <neotrophy_> !tell neotrophy_ about make-kpkg
[09:35] <JDahl> brownie17, the pgp privacy key is used for digital signatures in many OSS project. You can encrypt email and stuff with it also
[09:35] <poyie> where i can find the apt-get site of java?
[09:35] <linner> omp, i'm absolutely a newbie... so i can't help you from there... but what I was told was try to use the radeon drivers for my ati 200m card
[09:35] <tritium> !tell poyie about java
[09:35] <brenner> vbgunz: same way...dpkg -L...but i just usually guess and use tab-completion. :)
[09:35] <zorba64> !java
[09:35] <ubotu> To install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java or, for Sun's Java, ask me about !sunjava
[09:35] <vbgunz> this is nice... I will experiment
[09:35] <linner> !tell omp about ati
[09:35] <brenner> linner: that was tritium, not me. :)
[09:35] <omp> tritium: r350 i think
[09:35] <linner> brenner, sorry
[09:35] <linner> omp, that was tritium
[09:36] <linner> so sorry :)
[09:36] <apsync> tritium, how can I overwrite, it does not ask me to overwrite or keep
[09:36] <brenner> linner: np...i like free credit. :)
[09:36] <omp> lol
[09:36] <linner> brenner, *smile*
[09:36] <tiranaure> WHO ARE AN FTP in  FREE ???
[09:36] <tritium> omp, r350?  you want fglrx
[09:36] <vbgunz> holy cow... firefox came back with mad files...
[09:36] <linner> tiranaure, beg your pardon?
[09:36] <tritium> tiranaure, stop
[09:37] <tiranaure> plz answer me
[09:37] <omp> tritium: yah i did get fglrx
[09:37] <dorkiaa> What's the difference between kubuntu "breezy" and kubuntu "5.10"?
[09:37] <crimsun> dorkiaa: none.
[09:37] <omp> tritium: after running fglrxconfig it still is using mesa3d
[09:37] <linner> tiranaure, i'm happy to try if you can speak english :)
[09:37] <tiranaure> :(
[09:37] <vbgunz> tritium I have not seen any tab completion features in the terminal...
[09:37] <tritium> omp, you've tried it, eh?
[09:37] <vbgunz> one sec, I will look for that
[09:37] <poyie> i downloaded already my java update jre i think but the problem is i dnt knw how to unpack on desktop
[09:37] <omp> tritium: in gentoo, it works without any trouble, but i can't get it to work in breezy
[09:37] <tritium> vbgunz, they're there, trust me
[09:37] <linner> tiranaure, what language do you speak?  I'm sure there's a forum for you.
[09:37] <tiranaure> have you got a server ftp free ?
[09:38] <dorkiaa> So why are there two directories here: http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/?
[09:38] <vbgunz> tritium: ok am looking...
[09:38] <linner> tiranaure, I personally do not
[09:38] <vinboy> hi
[09:38] <crimsun> dorkiaa: breezy is the name for 5.10.
[09:38] <vinboy> how do I put xchat onto the system tray and remove from taskbar?
[09:38] <linner> !tell tiranaure about ftp servers
[09:38] <tritium> omp, where does it fail?
[09:38] <dorkiaa> So why are there two directories?
[09:39] <brenner> system tray? :)
[09:39] <tritium> hello crimsun
[09:39] <crimsun> hi tritium
[09:39] <matrix> :|
[09:39] <dorkiaa> Is there a kubuntu forum in hebrew?
[09:39] <omp> tritium: everything seems right, but when i restart X, and type fglrxinfo, i still get mesa3d
[09:39] <crimsun> dorkiaa: it doesn't matter that there are two
[09:40] <matrix> hello people :)
[09:40] <linner> matrix, hello :)
[09:40] <tritium> omp, and you've followed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ?
[09:40] <dorkiaa> OK, thanks
[09:40] <brenner> omp: probably one of two things...you didnt load the module, or you haven't changed it in xorg.conf
[09:40] <matrix> ok i'm completly new to ubuntu/linux :|
[09:40] <linner> matrix, welcome!  so am I!
[09:40] <matrix> ok but, i have a little problem
[09:40] <linner> matrix, no fear ... there are a LOT of knowledgable pepole in here
[09:40] <linner> matrix, what might that be?
[09:41] <vbgunz> thanks fellas, I am tired and need rest... thanks for book references fellas and thanks for tab completion idea!
[09:41] <matrix> idk how to run exe's like my installers
[09:41] <linner> matrix, you can use WINE for windows EXE files
[09:41] <tritium> good night, vbgunz
[09:41] <matrix> O.o
[09:41] <linner> matrix, however, it is limited to what it will run
[09:41] <dorkiaa> Does someone know's a hebrew kubuntu forum?
[09:41] <Madpilot> matrix: installers for what?
[09:41] <dorkiaa> *knows
[09:41] <matrix> where can i get this wine and how do i install it
[09:42] <linner> matrix, through synaptic
[09:42] <omp> i'll brb
[09:42] <shaoqi> hi. are there any other movie player for avi/mp3/wma formats? other than totem
[09:42] <omp> i think i might have fixed it :X
[09:42] <linner> matrix, that is under system --> administration --> synaptic
[09:42] <linner> matrix, then type "wine" in the search box
[09:42] <dorkiaa> You might want to use WineX, because it is better
[09:42] <brenner> matrix: Madpilot's question is an important one....i'd answer it
[09:42] <matrix> ok where do i get it :)
[09:42] <linner> dorkiaa, thank you ... I didn't know that
[09:43] <shaoqi> hi. are there any other movie player for avi/mp3/wma formats? other than totem
[09:43] <Madpilot> matrix: what Windows programs do you want to run in Ubuntu?
[09:43] <brenner> !tell shaoqi about players
[09:43] <matrix> msn messenger and winrar
[09:43] <Whistler> matrix why do you need that?
[09:43] <tritium> matrix, there are linux equivalents in ubuntu
[09:43] <dorkiaa> http://linuxshop.ru/linuxbegin/win-lin-soft-en/table.shtml
[09:43] <dorkiaa> There you go
[09:43] <brownie17> is it just me or are there not many sources in limewire? like not alot of files to search through
[09:43] <linner> matrix, you can use GAIM.. it's a universal chat program
[09:43] <brenner> that's why it was so important. :)
[09:44] <matrix> all the people i know are on msn and i need winrar for my .rar files
[09:44] <dorkiaa> This is "The table of replacements of Windows software in Linux"
[09:44] <tritium> matrix, you can communicate with them through gaim
[09:44] <matrix> O.o
[09:44] <tritium> it supports the MSN protocol
[09:44] <matrix> where can i get this
[09:44] <tritium> it's installed by default
[09:44] <matrix> O.o
[09:44] <linner> matrix, it's very easy use
[09:44] <matrix> where?
[09:44] <brownie17> dorkiaa, may i also have that table please?
[09:44] <Madpilot> matrix: Applications menu - Internet - Gaim
[09:44] <tritium> Applications->Internet
[09:45] <linner> applications --> internet --> gaim
[09:45] <matrix> O.o i'm learning so much already :)
[09:45] <Madpilot> brownie17: see that linuxshop.ru URL that dorkiaa posted, that's the table
[09:45] <linner> matrix, i don't know what you could use for winrar though
[09:45] <matrix> yeah all my archives are rar files
[09:46] <JDahl> matrix, (un)rar, possibly the nonfree version
[09:46] <linner> Madpilot, any suggestions what he could download?
[09:46] <brenner> matrix: try opening them in nautilus
[09:46] <matrix> kk
[09:46] <linner> JDahl, oh there you go :)
[09:46] <dorkiaa> Is "Macromedia" compatable with linux?
[09:46] <linner> matrix, give it just a couple of days...
[09:46] <matrix> nautilus would be where ?
[09:46] <linner> matrix, I promise you'll love it...
[09:46] <matrix> i know i will
[09:47] <matrix> windows sucks :)
[09:47] <tritium> Glad to have you with us, matrix
[09:47] <matrix> np
[09:47] <Madpilot> matrix: Places menu --> Home Folder gets you Nautilus
[09:47] <JDahl> dorkiaa, there's a macromedia flashplayer for linux under universe?
[09:47] <dorkiaa> matrix, you can also use AMSN
[09:47] <crimsun> JDahl: multiverse's flashplugin-nonfree
[09:47] <Madpilot> !flash
[09:47] <ubotu> flash is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:47] <indypende> i've solved my problem with my scanner with the sudo chmod 777 /proc/bus/usb/***/***
[09:47] <matrix> is it supposed to be a icon for that cause all thats showing is the desktop icon
[09:48] <indypende> there is a way to run this command at boot?
[09:48] <linner> matrix, let me see if i can find it for you... hold on just a sec.
[09:48] <matrix> kk
[09:49] <dorkiaa> matrix, http://kmess.sourceforge.net/screenshots/
[09:49] <Madpilot> matrix: use the menus - you can set icons & shortcuts up later
[09:49] <matrix> k
[09:50] <linner> matrix, I can't find it either.
[09:50] <matrix> find what ?
[09:50] <linner> Madpilot, where exactly is it?
[09:50] <dorkiaa> matrix, WineX ia now known as "Cedega"
[09:50] <linner> mathieu, unrar
[09:51] <matrix> O.o
[09:51] <Madpilot> linner: find what?
[09:51] <JDahl> a general way of searching for package content is to use apt-cache, e.g., "apt-cache search messenger"
[09:51] <linner> matrix was trying to find unrar
[09:51] <indypende> i've solved my problem with my scanner with the sudo chmod 777 /proc/bus/usb/***/***
[09:51] <indypende> there is a way to run this command at boot?
[09:51] <linner> Madpilot, you said it was on the desktop .. i can't find it either...
[09:52] <JDahl> "apt-cache search unrar" works also...
[09:52] <linner> Madpilot, you understand what i'm talking about?
[09:53] <Madpilot> linner: unrar? nope... someone else suggested that matrix check with Nautilus - I was trying to tell him where Nautilus is in the menus
[09:53] <acad> i have a problem, i have some stuff that says i have unmet dependencies when i go to install a program,  *i can't do a apt-get -f install* cause it says it's going to remove half the system.  how do i remove the items that have unmet dependincies instead?
[09:53] <linner> oh... man....
[09:53] <linner> matrix, go to applications --> system tools ---> terminal
[09:53] <linner> type this...
[09:54] <matrix> ok...
[09:54] <dorkiaa> Forum post about games in linux (in hebrew :P ) : http://whatsup.org.il/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&p=160743#160743
[09:54] <deFrysk> acad, what program ?
[09:54] <acad> libc6-dev
[09:54] <linner> sudo apt-cache search unrar
[09:54] <linner> it will ask for your root (administrator) password
[09:54] <brenner> no need for sudo
[09:55] <Madpilot> linner: sudo uses the user pw, not root, remember...
[09:55] <linner> brenner, no?
[09:55] <deFrysk> acad, any non ubuntu repositories in your sources.list ?
[09:55] <acad> deFrysk libc6-dev is the program with unmet depenencies
[09:55] <brenner> matrix: did you try the nautilus/file-roller way?
[09:55] <linner> oh it does?... ok... no, I didn't know that at all
[09:55] <linner> sorry
[09:55] <linner> but it won't hurt it will it?
[09:55] <matrix> nope
[09:55] <acad> deFrysk yea (accidently)  but i fixed it
[09:55] <matrix> sudo apt-cache search unrar <- noffin
[09:55] <acad> i caut it pretty quick
[09:55] <neotrophy_> Anyone playing with the Composite extension?
[09:55] <deFrysk> acad, maybe there kies your prob then
[09:55] <linner> matrix, i made a mistake
[09:56] <linner> no need for sudo
[09:56] <matrix> ok
[09:56] <acad> yea-  i know the problem. i want to fix it hehe
[09:56] <linner> just type apt-cache search unrar
[09:56] <poyie> can u pls give me again the site for java
[09:56] <brenner> yeah, apt-cache searches/shows don't need sudo
[09:56] <JDahl> matrix, then you need to enable universe/multiverse
[09:56] <Madpilot> !tell poyie about java
[09:56] <linner> brenner, understood... i'm learning too :)
[09:56] <brenner> matrix: i suggest you do first before getting unrar etc
[09:56] <brenner> matrix: you might be lucky and your archives will be read
[09:56] <deFrysk> acad, what alien repo did you have in your sources.lis ?
[09:56] <brenner> if not, _then_ do what everyone is telling you to do
[09:57] <linner> brenner, I dont' think he knows how to do that... can you help walk him through it?  I'm not an expert at these commands (obviously) yet.
[09:57] <matrix> :)
[09:57] <brownie17> so.. word is that "freecraft" was issued a cease and decist by blizzard!, how's about that, eh?
[09:57] <brenner> matrix: ok, where are you archives?
[09:57] <brenner> archive files rather
[09:57] <acad> deFrysk *a private one*  it was from a company i work for...
[09:57] <matrix> on my jump drive
[09:57] <indypende> i've solved my problem with my scanner with the sudo chmod 777 /proc/bus/usb/***/***
[09:57] <indypende> there is a way to run this command at boot?
[09:58] <JDahl> matrix, have you used synaptic yet? that's a graphical tool for package management
[09:58] <deFrysk> acad, and did you use ubuntuguide to set up your os ?
[09:58] <brenner> matrix: have you got it mounted then so you can acess them?
[09:58] <matrix> yeah i do but idk what to do from there
[09:58] <linner> matrix, aka add/remove programs
[09:58] <acad> deFrysk i didn't set it up
[09:58] <acad> deFrysk so i don't know
[09:58] <JDahl> matrix, you should use that to enable the universe/multiverse repositories. After that you can search for unrar (using either apt-cache or synaptic)
[09:59] <deFrysk> acad, are there backport repo's in your sources.list ?
[09:59] <matrix> ok tell me how to enable it
[09:59] <tiranaure> i love english
[09:59] <linner> tiranaure, great!
[10:00] <acad> the private repository which i used by acident and canceled which caused this is newer then the ubuntu one
[10:00] <JDahl> matrix, I never use synaptic, but I think there's a menu called "repositories" or something like that
[10:00] <acad> deFrysk if that makes any sense
[10:00] <matrix> yep there is
[10:01] <linner> matrix, choose the version you have of ubuntu
[10:01] <deFrysk> acad, not sure what to do about your prob exept vor removal of all "alien packages and reinstall the origina ones
[10:01] <gizmo> hallo
[10:01] <JDahl> matrix, then enable universe and multiverse and update the package list
[10:01] <manuel_>  HOLA A TODOS ALGUIEN ME AYUDA POR FAVOR
[10:01] <acad> deFrysk how would i remove all alien packages?
[10:01] <manuel_> ALGUIEN QUE HABLE  ESPAOL
[10:01] <brenner> manuel_: #ubuntu-es
[10:01] <gizmo> exist a german ubuntu channel ?
[10:01] <acad> apt-get won't let me remove anything until i fix the issue
[10:01] <manuel_> OK
[10:01] <deFrysk> acad, you installed them , so hunt htem down I would say
[10:01] <manuel_> GRACIAS
[10:02] <brenner> gizmo: #ubuntu-de maybe?
[10:02] <acad> ok,  i know the package- but how would i remove it?
[10:02] <deFrysk> acad, another solution might be upgrading to breezy
[10:02] <NiLz> what's wrong with mozilla-firefox 1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1 from hoary-security?
[10:03] <gizmo> thanx
[10:03] <NiLz> can't install it for some strange reason
[10:03] <deFrysk> acad, althoug breezy is still under development
[10:03] <indypende> what's the difference between chmod 777 or chmod a+rw
[10:03] <matrix> ok check the boxes for mu
[10:03] <deFrysk> NiLz, strange reason might be backports ?
[10:03] <matrix> ltiverse and universe ?
[10:03] <NiLz> deFrysk: disabled
[10:03] <JDahl> acad, Dont upgrade to Breezy until you get more confortable with apt-get etc.
[10:03] <Madpilot> indypende: 777 = a+rwx - ie everyone has full read/write/execute privs
[10:04] <Madpilot> !tell matrix about repos
[10:04] <deFrysk> NiLz, but your firefox is from backports ?
[10:04] <NiLz> deFrysk: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2482
[10:04] <matrix> man check the boxes with multiverse and universe then hit add ?
[10:04] <neotrophy_> indypende: a+rw would be 666
[10:04] <indypende> Madpilot, i need to run a chmod at bott?
[10:04] <indypende> Madpilot, how can i do it?
[10:05] <NiLz> deFrysk: how can I check this?
[10:05] <deFrysk> NiLz, dunno , everybody is having probs here , due to backports
[10:05] <dorkiaa> well, i am going to try kubuntu in hebrew :(
[10:05] <dorkiaa> *:)
[10:06] <ouroboros> hey all, I'm havin trouble with Gallery for Image Gallery Server installation on Ubuntu Hoary 64-bit
[10:06] <Madpilot> indypende: no idea - there must be a more graceful way of doing whatever you're trying that a chmod 777 at every boot?
[10:06] <Ixchael> so, anyone have any ideas on fixing firefox after the latest update? I keep getting errors that they are trying to overwrite the same files
[10:06] <indypende> neotrophy_, , i need to run a chmod at bott?
[10:07] <indypende> neotrophy_, troph, how can i do it?
[10:07] <neotrophy_> indypende: What do you mean "at bott"?
[10:07] <ouroboros> after going through ubuntuguide's install, I've specified a password, but when trying to log in to the page, it asks for user as well - is that www-data? if so, it seems I can't log in with the specified password
[10:07] <tiranaure> i am french and i MUCH LOVE ENgLAND !
[10:07] <acad> well here goes- i'm sure to screw this up
[10:07] <cevizoglu> neotrophy_, he means at boot
[10:07] <NiLz> deFrysk: strange, don't they check compatability of the backporst packages?
[10:07] <indypende> neotrophy_, at boot... sorry
[10:07] <deFrysk> ouroboros, ubuntuguide is a pain
[10:07] <Madpilot> !+ubuntuguide
[10:07] <ubotu> methinks ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[10:07] <j-linux> I thought that apt-get install msttcorefonts would work, but it doesn't and MS site says they are no longer available?
[10:07] <deFrysk> ouroboros, stay away from it
[10:08] <ouroboros> deFrysk well it hasn't been that tough for me, but Gallery is really my only problem, I can't log in to the configuration php
[10:08] <indypende> Madpilot, it's a know problem... i can't access my scanner only as root
[10:08] <j-linux> Is there another way to get the fonts easily?
[10:08] <ouroboros> I have Hoary edition
[10:08] <crimsun> j-linux: which version of msttcorefonts?
[10:08] <deFrysk> NiLz, we warn for ubuntuguide and backorts here every day every hour every minute , but people are totally deaf
[10:08] <indypende> Madpilot, and if i chmod the device i can but every time i reboot he loose the permission for user!
[10:09] <j-linux> crimsun: I'm not sure -- I didn't know there were different versions.  I'm just trying to add more fonts to Ubuntu: Arial, Verdana, Georgia, etc.
[10:09] <ouroboros> deFrysk - I have Hoary, isn't ubuntuguide acceptable for Hoary??
[10:09] <deFrysk> ouroboros, no no no and again absolutely not!
[10:09] <ouroboros> foiled again.
[10:09] <NiLz> deFrysk: well, some progs can only be found at backports
[10:09] <crimsun> j-linux: dpkg -l msttcorefonts|grep ^ii
[10:09] <zorba64> j-linux: they work for me - there are in multiverse
[10:09] <{CyberFreak}> hi all
[10:09] <Ixchael> Can anyone help? My firefox is completely broken after today's update. When trying to install the rest of the packages or removing firefox for reinstall I get this error: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/var/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions.d/00classic', which is also in package firefox
[10:09] <deFrysk> NiLz, ant thus break your system
[10:10] <jad> guys, I have hd6/ (partition) and hdb1 (another hdd), I need to mount them, any idea?
[10:10] <crimsun> oh no, not the backports issue again.
[10:10] <Madpilot> indypende: that's messy... sorry, I've got no idea
[10:10] <ouroboros> anyway, can anyone help with Gallery?
[10:10] <locomorto> !tell jad about ntfs
[10:10] <j-linux> zorba64: oh.. I thought they were supposed to be in Universe.  Multiverse is different?
[10:10] <ouroboros> I can't seem to find what I'm looking for out there
[10:10] <cevizoglu> Ixchael, if you don't find a solution, try running another browser until it gets fixed
[10:10] <Madpilot> crimsun: you might want to change the /topic to help all the Firefox users...
[10:10] <j-linux> crimsun: I just type that at the terminal?
[10:10] <locomorto> Multiverse is for non-opesnsourece stuff
[10:10] <zorba64> Ixchael: try apt-get remove --purge firefox mozilla-firefox
[10:10] <locomorto> Multiverse is for non-opensource*
[10:11] <ouroboros> Does www-data need to be activated or something for it to work properly?
[10:11] <indypende> Madpilot, i suppose i can insert the chmod in /etc/init.d/locale but there is not!
[10:11] <Madeye> locomorto,  it's not ntfs all are ext3
[10:11] <locomorto> Madeye: And there not mounting automagically?
[10:11] <ouroboros> I see, well isn't that a calamity.
[10:11] <zorba64> j-linux: just put multiverse after ant lines that have universe in them in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:11] <locomorto> Madeye: man fstab ; man mount
[10:11] <crimsun> Madpilot: apparently it's already in the topic ;)
[10:12] <poyie> hw to install chikka on ubuntu?
[10:12] <Chousuke> chikka?
[10:12] <ouroboros> How-to install Gallery on Hoary?
[10:12] <poyie> yeh
[10:12] <{CyberFreak}> i have upgrade to breezy and sound didnt work with 2.6.12-9 kernel
[10:12] <Madeye> locomorto,  no they are no
[10:12] <Madeye> t
[10:12] <crimsun> {CyberFreak}: lspci -v|grep -i audio
[10:12] <{CyberFreak}> if i boot with old kernel 2.6.10 sound works
[10:12] <poyie> how?
[10:12] <Chousuke> poyie: wtf is it?  :p
[10:13] <locomorto> Madeye: fstab and mount is what you need to use
[10:13] <poyie> i already find the installation page but it didnt work
[10:13] <Chousuke> ok.
[10:13] <Chousuke> so. answer my question.
[10:13] <ouroboros> He is a meat popsicle.
[10:13] <{CyberFreak}> and i cant install ndiswrapper module
[10:13] <{CyberFreak}> operation dont permited
[10:13] <NiLz> deFrysk: it's strange, take me for example, I just moved from fedora, I used to have livna, freshrpms etc etc repos to install the soft from
[10:13] <Madpilot> poyie: if you told us what it is, and which install instructions you were following, that would help...
[10:13] <j-linux> zorba64: "ant lines" ?
[10:13] <NiLz> deFrysk: never had any problems
[10:13] <zorba64> j-linux: any lines
[10:13] <NiLz> deFrysk: of course I tried mainly to install the soft from the official repos
[10:13] <poyie> http://java.chikka.com/install/install_body.php?client_id=&version=&username=&password=
[10:14] <NiLz> deFrysk: but some progs like xine, k3b, couldn't be found there
[10:14] <poyie> try dis
[10:14] <{CyberFreak}> thanks crimsum but i cant boot with 2.6.12 coz i dont have wireless on my laptop :(
[10:14] <NiLz> deFrysk: unofficial repos were fully compatible
[10:14] <Slarti-> w00t
[10:14] <crimsun> {CyberFreak}: using your 2.6.10 kernel, tell me the contents of /proc/asound/modules
[10:14] <{CyberFreak}> ok
[10:14] <Slarti-> my zen micro connects in ubuntu
[10:14] <Chousuke> poyie: do you have java installed?
[10:14] <tritium> poyie, my wife has run the java version of chikka on hoary
[10:14] <Slarti-> a feet never managed in mandrake or slack
[10:15] <poyie> dats my problem i cannot install java
[10:15] <Ixchael> cevizoglu, zorba64: thanks for the help! It works now :)
[10:15] <Madpilot> later, all. need sleep badly...
[10:15] <{CyberFreak}> crimsun,  check pm
[10:15] <Slarti-> I officially no longer need to use windows
[10:16] <tritium> poyie, pinay?  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java or ask ubotu about sunjava
[10:16] <poyie> k tnx
[10:16] <zorba64> !sun-java
[10:16] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, zorba64
[10:16] <j-linux> zorba64: how do I find out the URL of multiverse? (sorry, I've never done this)
[10:16] <zorba64> !sunjava
[10:16] <ubotu> For Sun-Java debs add this line to your /etc/apt/sources.list (for hoary) deb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ hoary java  ; or go to seveas.ubuntulinux.nl (for Breezy)
[10:17] <j-linux> I think I may have found it
[10:17] <zorba64> j-linux: any line that has universe in it, just type multiverse on that line after it
[10:17] <matrix> ok i got the updates for synaptic now what am i looking for :|
[10:17] <poyie> i already have myfile:///home/user/Desktop/jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586-rpm.bin
[10:18] <JDahl> matrix, were you looking for unrar? then type that in the search bar
[10:18] <poyie> d prob is that i dnt knw how to install
[10:18] <zorba64> j-linux: eg deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse is a line from mine
[10:18] <j-linux> zorba64: ok, thanks.  I'll try it.  Just "multiverse" on a line after any URL with "universe"
[10:18] <tritium> poyie, that's the wrong package format
[10:18] <matrix> ok
[10:18] <poyie> ah ok
[10:18] <poyie> wats d right
[10:18] <j-linux> zorba64: so you mean copy the same URL format but substitute the word "multiverse"?
[10:19] <NiLz> how can I see the installed package?
[10:19] <NiLz> I mean the version etc
[10:19] <zorba64> poyie: just add multiverse to each universe line, dont copy mine word for word I use breezy
[10:19] <NiLz> with rpm its rpm -qa | grep smth
[10:20] <flyingpenguin900> how do people open seprate X servers?
[10:20] <spiral> hi
[10:20] <zorba64> poyie: the other one, that ends in .bin
[10:20] <tritium> zorba64, are you going to walk her through using java-package?
[10:20] <poyie> hw bout rpm?
[10:21] <zorba64> tritium: I have before
[10:21] <tritium> zorba64, awesome, thanks
[10:21] <cx22> hello everyone!
[10:21] <poyie> rpm.bin
[10:21] <matrix> ok found it now what
[10:21] <bob2> flyingpenguin900: to do what?
[10:21] <cx22> its me again
[10:21] <linner> hi cx22
[10:21] <cx22> can someone help me out?
[10:21] <StrikeForce> has anyone got this error /etc/dbus-1/event.d/20hal: line 50: kill: (7295) - No such process
[10:21] <cx22> i have a problem in my Gnome
[10:21] <StrikeForce> after upgrading to breezy?
[10:21] <zorba64> poyie: no, not the rpm one...the .bin only one
[10:21] <cx22> sez canot find internet conection
[10:21] <bob2> StrikeForce: did you log out and in again?
[10:22] <cx22> who?
[10:22] <cx22> bob2, is that for me?
[10:22] <StrikeForce> bob2, it happens on reboot constantly
[10:22] <poyie> i have bin..d sellf xtracting
[10:22] <ouroboros> Can anyone help with Gallery for Image Gallery Server under Ubuntu Hoary? I don't know if I'm supposed to user www-data for the login name or what...
[10:22] <bob2> StrikeForce: sure you're up-to-date?
[10:22] <StrikeForce> bob2, not on startup just when I shut down
[10:22] <StrikeForce> yup just ran aptitude now
[10:22] <cx22> linner, can u help me?
[10:22] <bob2> cx22: ?
[10:22] <cx22> bob2, can u help me too?
[10:23] <bob2> cx22: it's really hard and annoying to help people if they don't provide a good description of the problem
[10:23] <bob2> for instance, you'd need to tell us how you get that error
[10:23] <bob2> and what program it's from
[10:23] <zorba64> poyie: if rpm is in the name, its the wrong one, you need : jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586
[10:23] <bob2> and whether you've setup a network yet
[10:23] <linner> cx22, i'm not very eperienced at ll
[10:23] <NiLz> how can I list all installed packages?
[10:23] <Ex-Cyber> will an Athlon 64 operate correctly with PC2100 RAM? (yes, I know it won't be fast...)
[10:23] <linner> cx22, i'll try though
[10:23] <zorba64> poyie: jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin
[10:24] <flyingpenguin900> bob2: sorry, I have seen some people say they play their games on diff X servers...
[10:24] <bob2> NiLz: COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | grep ^ii
[10:24] <cx22> that's the problem, i just tried to setup my LAN connection, and when i rebooted, it said that GNOME has problems and can't connect to the internet
[10:24] <poyie> jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586-rpm.bin
[10:24] <poyie> ds s wrong?
[10:24] <bob2> flyingpenguin900: ctrl-alt-f1, login, 'startx -- :1' (no quotes)
[10:24] <cx22> can't quite understand what to do... or what i've done
[10:24] <zorba64> poyie: yes, wrong one
[10:24] <tritium> poyie, yes, because it has "rpm" in it
[10:24] <poyie> ok
[10:24] <poyie> tnx
[10:24] <tritium> get the one that does not have "rpm" in it
[10:25] <StrikeForce> bob2, it also happens if I run sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart
[10:25] <NiLz> mozilla-firefo 1.0.6-1ubuntu1
[10:25] <NiLz> thats what I have installed now
[10:25] <NiLz> is this a backport package?
[10:25] <cx22> bob2: can u help me?
[10:25] <cx22> i just switched from Windows to Linux. have no idea bout this OS
[10:26] <NiLz> firefox 1.0.6-1ubuntu1 is there as well
[10:26] <StrikeForce> tell you what though breezy is heaps faster :)
[10:26] <robbie> is totem capable of playing anything
[10:26] <bob2> cx22: I've never used the gnome network thing, sorry
[10:26] <robbie> or do i need to install plugins
[10:26] <bob2> cx22: try asking on the mailing list, and including the settings the yo uentered
[10:26] <Knelix> Is the NVidia driver fixed in Breezy?
[10:26] <crimsun> robbie: totem-xine works great for me
[10:27] <bob2> Knelix: if it was, it would be noted in the BTS
[10:27] <cx22> what should i use instead? what are you using right now?
[10:27] <crimsun> robbie: totem-gstreamer should work for you
[10:27] <bob2> cx22: I just edit /etc/network/interfaces manually
[10:27] <StrikeForce> Knelix, not as of last night
[10:27] <Knelix> bob2: Ah... And where is that?
[10:27] <cx22> can you teach me that?
[10:27] <bob2> Knelix: bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[10:27] <robbie> crimsun: i am yet to find amedia file it can play
[10:27] <bob2> cx22: not in the 30 seconds I have before I go to dinner, sorry
[10:27] <robbie> not even an mpeg stream
[10:27] <Knelix> StrikeForce, bob2: Okay, thanks.
[10:27] <StrikeForce> Knelix, I compiled from source last night
[10:27] <robbie> the gstreamer version
[10:27] <StrikeForce> Knelix, so I'm fine :)
[10:27] <cx22> can you just e-mail it to me? please? i really need your help!
[10:28] <bigfoot1> hi all, in my websurfing I come across some links that are for audio. How can I get files ending in smi to work. My ubuntu seems to want to open them up using gedit. weird. One particular example is this: http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil.php?passage=Luke+1%3A1.
[10:28] <tritium> cx22, man interfaces will help you
[10:28] <m0r0n> I ve installed Realplayer 10, but it cant be startet from the gnome panel. I ve read to change the autospawn value from 0 to 1, but it has no effect.
[10:28] <Knelix> StrikeForce: I'm not at that level yet in Linux, though I hope to be at some point. :-)
[10:28] <cx22> tritium, i've been tryin..
[10:28] <bob2> cx22: wtf
[10:29] <Knelix> StrikeForce: I'm "coming" from Darwin/Mac OS, Linux being my second OS.
[10:29] <cx22> can't open System>Administration>Networking
[10:29] <tiranaure> i am french and i MUCH LOVE ENgLAND !
[10:29] <tiranaure> i am french and i MUCH LOVE ENgLAND !
[10:29] <tiranaure> i am french and i MUCH LOVE ENgLAND !
[10:29] <tiranaure> i am french and i MUCH LOVE ENgLAND !
[10:29] <tiranaure> i am french and i MUCH LOVE ENgLAND !
[10:29] <tiranaure> i am french and i MUCH LOVE ENgLAND !
[10:29] <tiranaure> i am french and i MUCH LOVE ENgLAND !
[10:29] <tiranaure> i am french and i MUCH LOVE ENgLAND !
[10:29] <tiranaure> i am french and i MUCH LOVE ENgLAND !
[10:29] <tiranaure> i am french and i MUCH LOVE ENgLAND !
[10:29] <snorks> great
[10:29] <tiranaure> i am french and i MUCH LOVE ENgLAND !
[10:29] <JDahl> stupid french people...
[10:29] <deFrysk> time to ban ?
[10:29] <StrikeForce> hahaha
[10:29] <StrikeForce> I agree
[10:29] <bob2> cx22: emailing my one is of no use.  /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz
[10:29] <StrikeForce> Knelix, its not that hard
[10:29] <poyie> is there anyone there has a fully tutorial about linux
[10:29] <tritium> bob2, you're too fast ;)
[10:29] <cx22> k... i'll try it
[10:29] <poyie> i mean preferences
[10:30] <Knelix> StrikeForce: It never is, once you're there. :-)
[10:30] <bob2> everytime I see a .ipt.aol.com, my trigger finger gets itchy
[10:30] <StrikeForce> Knelix, do you want me to give youa  link?
[10:30] <crimsun> tritium: it's the #debian experience ;)
[10:30] <StrikeForce> Knelix, it explains it step by step
[10:30] <poyie> yeah
[10:30] <tritium> crimsun, :)
[10:30] <poyie> where is it
[10:30] <bigfoot1> any opera users here?
[10:31] <deFrysk> !opera
[10:31] <Knelix> StrikeForce: Well, I'm not sure if my head is clear enough for that now, but sure I'll take a look and bookmark. :-)
[10:31] <furic> Theres some in #css
[10:31] <poyie> any internet explorer user here?
[10:31] <cazabam> bigfoot1
[10:31] <poyie> joke!!
[10:31] <cazabam> bigfoot1, yes, I use oepra
[10:31] <deFrysk> bigfoot1, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[10:32] <StrikeForce> Knelix, give me a few mins I'll give you the link just trying to burn something atm :)
[10:32] <poyie> ok
[10:32] <Knelix> StrikeForce: Haha.. Ok, no prob.
[10:32] <poyie> dis is my email add meotow16@yahoo.com
[10:32] <poyie> if you have time just send me then
[10:33] <bigfoot1> cazabam, thanks. may i ask you a question regarding audio? I'm trying to get a smi (audio) file to work. When i click on the link, it asks if i want to download it. Then when i select open, it opens up gedit. Maybe you can tell me what your Preferences/advanced/downloads. Here is an example URL http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil.php?passage=Luke+1%3A1
[10:34] <Crytpid> Hi every 1 i have a Big problem i installed some Ice and gdesklet and now my computer dosent load the Gnome interface it only shows the login msg from terminal and then after i login i am still in command line interface how to i restore my computer to its previous settings
[10:34] <StrikeForce> Knelix, they've changed the layout of k3b :(
[10:34] <Knelix> StrikeForce: huh?....
[10:34] <Echelon-H> hmmm I have some very weird going on, I finished download some rar, and it just won't extract.
[10:34] <Crytpid> i have lots of important files on my Harddisk that i dont want to loose
[10:34] <deFrysk> Echelon-H, get unrar-non-free
[10:34] <JDahl> Echelon-H, you need unrar to extract, ditto for zip/unzip
[10:35] <deFrysk> Echelon-H, get unrar-nonfree that is
[10:35] <Mephist0> i got a problem :( my ubuntu has been up and running for 40 days.. when i restarted it now (the update package utility installed a new kernel a while ago) it wont boot now.. i come to a grub> prompt.. its the boot loader but how do i get it to boot? :(
[10:36] <ouroboros> can anyone help?
[10:36] <cazabam> bigfoot1, when it asks to to open/save, click the 'Change..' button
[10:36] <Mephist0> its probably a very simple problem.. or not a problem at all... but im used to just start ubunto and then it boots up.....
[10:36] <bigfoot1> ok...
[10:36] <cazabam> then check the 'use other application' radio button
[10:37] <cazabam> and type the name of your smi player into the box directly under it
[10:37] <deFrysk> !tell ouroboros about ask
[10:37] <Mephist0> !tell Mephist0 about grub
[10:37] <bigfoot1> cazabam, what's an example of smi player? i have totem,vlc, xine, musicplayer
[10:37] <matrix> have any of u ever heard of tor?
[10:38] <JDahl> matrix, unless you are up to no good, you dont need it...
[10:38] <matrix> rofl
[10:38] <matrix> i need it
[10:38] <zorba64> !grub
[10:38] <ubotu> grub is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[10:38] <matrix> don't matter if i'm up to no good or not
[10:38] <John6000> !lilo
[10:38] <ubotu> John6000: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[10:38] <John6000> ?
[10:38] <John6000> why
[10:38] <matrix> i used tor on windows
[10:38] <Cryptid> HELP PLZ!!!! my ubuntu dosent load its stuck in terminal the Gnome interface is not loading what do i do i thing i screwed my sys by installing some other softwares like gdesklets PLZ help ME
[10:39] <John6000> ubotu: WHY???
[10:39] <ubotu> Because that's that
[10:39] <John6000> :/
[10:39] <StrikeForce> Knelix, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=52924
[10:39] <StrikeForce> Knelix, that'll help you out
[10:40] <JDahl> matrix, there are debian packages for tor/privoxy etc., so should be as easy to install as any other package
[10:40] <pont> Cryptid, do you get any error
[10:40] <StrikeForce> Knelix, print it or write it down so you can just go straight to console and do it there
[10:40] <cazabam> bigfoot1, realplayer plays them, I think
[10:40] <pont> Cryptid, what happens when you type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[10:40] <bigfoot1> cazabam, is realplayer what you use?
[10:40] <Mephist0> its probably a very simple problem.. or not a problem at all... but im used to just start ubunto and then it boots up..... Can anyone just tell me how i boot my system up again? .. I have nothing special. Only a partition with Ubuntu.. no windows or anything on that machine..
[10:40] <zorba64> bigfoot1: fyi http://service.real.com/help/library/guides/production/htmfiles/extensn.htm
[10:40] <m0r0n> I hate linux
[10:40] <matrix> ok i'm installing somethings thru synatic now
[10:40] <matrix> *synaptic
[10:40] <John6000> m0r0n dont say that
[10:40] <Mephist0> i got a problem :( my ubuntu has been up and running for 40 days.. when i restarted it now (the update package utility installed a new kernel a while ago) it wont boot now.. i come to a grub> prompt.. its the boot loader but how do i get it to boot? :(
[10:41] <matrix> u hate linux =O!
[10:41] <bigfoot1> zorba64, thanks for the input. So only realplayer plays smi files? how about totem, vlc, xine, etc?
[10:41] <Cryptid> pont, No it loads the begging and then its ask me to login(not the graphical interface) like in Terminal and then it shows user@ubuntu$ and then i am stuck in terminal mode only
[10:41] <locomorto> Mephist0: whats the output in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[10:41] <cazabam> bigfoot1, I don't particularly play SMIL files, but I do know how mime handling works in opera :)
[10:41] <Cryptid> pont, i didnt try this type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start will this command work
[10:42] <StrikeForce> Mephist0, boot into the old kernel? if you still can
[10:42] <bigfoot1> cazabam, thanks. then I guess i'll get realplayer, if that's what i need to play SMIL files.
[10:42] <pont> Cryptid, GDM is the graphical login
[10:42] <bigfoot1> what's the best/safest/painless way of getting realplayer onto my ubuntu?
[10:42] <apsync> is it possible to open splitted rar files (eg; hello.part1.rar, hello.part2.rar, ...)
[10:42] <zorba64> bigfoot1: xine & vlc might, if you install the win32 codecs
[10:42] <Mephist0> StrikeForce: yes, but how do i do that? .. im in the grub> prompt and cant boot the system.. and im a n00b :)
[10:42] <bigfoot1> zorba64, i think i have installed the win32 codecs.
[10:43] <cazabam> bigfoot1, realplayer is in backports (I think)
[10:43] <bigfoot1> zorba64, i'll give it a shot, now.
[10:43] <Mephist0> locomorto: how can i check that when im in the grub> prompt?
[10:43] <pont> Cryptid, could be that your xorg.conf has been changed and wont work
[10:43] <Cryptid> pont, I dont get the GDM login at all and thats the problem how do i fix it
[10:43] <locomorto> Mephist0: do you get to a terminal?
[10:43] <locomorto> ie:
[10:43] <locomorto> login:
[10:43] <Mephist0> locomorto: no...
[10:43] <locomorto> Where does it fail?
[10:43] <Cryptid> pont, ya u may be rite xorg.conf file may be changed i am new to linux and i dont know how to reverse it can u help me
[10:43] <pont> Cryptid, well it could also mean the damoen isn't loading just try /etc/init.d/gdm start and see if gdm starts
[10:44] <bigfoot1> zorba64, could you try this http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil.php?passage=Luke+1%3A1 in your vlc, please? it doesn't work for me.
[10:44] <Mephist0> locomorto: when i start the pc it directly goes to the grub> prompt...
[10:44] <Mephist0> locomorto: and you can press tab to have a little command list..
[10:44] <xophEr> apsync, open the first rar file, it opens the rest too
[10:44] <Mephist0> locomorto: its probably because the kernel update a while ago i guess..
[10:44] <apsync> hmm
[10:44] <zorba64> bigfoot1: http://www.real.com/linux?pcode=rn&src=freeplayer_partner&opage=freeplayer_partner
[10:44] <locomorto> What kernels can you choose from?
[10:44] <pont> Cryptid, if the xorg.conf has changed the only advise i can really give is to type X and see what the error messgae is
[10:44] <Mephist0> locomorto: how do i list them?
[10:45] <locomorto> You tell us?
[10:45] <bigfoot1> zorba64, does your latest post mean that i should give up using vlc and xine for playing SMIL files, and just go to Realplayer?
[10:45] <locomorto> Are you on breezy?
[10:45] <pont> Cryptid, someones going to have to see the error from X to fix the problem
[10:45] <Mephist0> locomorto: 5.04 ... hoary or something.. rite?
[10:45] <zorba64> bigfoot1: nope, just info for you...your choice
[10:45] <Cryptid> pontu, i typed X and this screen comes up and shows a funny 4 cornered mouse and a 8-bit graphic screen
[10:45] <m0r0n> I ve installed Realplayer 10, but nothing happens when starting it
[10:46] <bigfoot1> zorba64, could you please try that link i sent you with your vlc, please?
[10:46] <Cryptid> pontu, i mean only the screen is there and nothing else
[10:46] <Knelix> Ugh.. trying to retrieve my old folding@home account to run on Ubuntu.... but cannot remember my user name.... ugh...
[10:46] <pont> Cryptid, ok press ctrl-alt and backspace at the same time and that screen will disapear, your xorg.conf is fine
[10:46] <Tobbe> Hi. I've installed Breezy from the pre .iso The first part of the install went smooth, but when I got to the part where the installer want's to reboot my computer I get stuck at "starting hotplug subsystem". I saw a few posts about it on the ubuntu forums, but most of them just said "remove everything connected to your usb ports". I've done that (just my mouse), but it didn't help. What else...
[10:46] <frank_b> hi all. just upgraded ubuntu, it gave two errors about mozilla packages, now I can't use mozilla... anyone here had the same problem when they upgraded it today?
[10:46] <Tobbe> ...can I try?
[10:46] <bigfoot1> i don't really want to get realplayer if one of the half dozen audio players i already have work.
[10:46] <PlutoPrime> anyone knows why azureus is not supplied in universe of multiverse??? Is it because of Java dependancies and java legal problems?
[10:46] <Mephist0> locomorto: im in the grub> prompt.. i guess its the boot loader? .. "minimal bash-like line editing"
[10:46] <locomorto> What kernels can you choose from
[10:47] <locomorto> ie 2.6.10-5-386
[10:47] <zorba64> bigfoot1: give me a couple of mins
[10:47] <Mephist0> locomorto: well i dont know! :( i just got to this prompt when i rebooted my machine..
[10:47] <Mephist0> locomorto: it has been up for 40 days...
[10:47] <bigfoot1> zorba64, thank you for your time.
[10:47] <pont> Cryptid, what happens if you just type 'gdm' or /etc/init.d/xdm start
[10:47] <Mephist0> locomorto: i only have ubuntu installed on that machine .. and its the first time i see the grub> prompt
[10:48] <Cryptid> pontu, ya i also pressed the zlt-ctrl+bkspance and i came back to the previous screen but some diffrent lines i observed sayin that some graphic couldnt be loaded or some thing like that
[10:48] <Mephist0> locomorto: cant i just get passed this grub thing by just make it boot somehow?
[10:48] <ColonelKernel> can anyone recommend a business accounting software suite for linux?
[10:48] <Cryptid> pontu, i didnt try typing gdm or /etc/init/d/xdm start
[10:49] <Cryptid> pontu, do u want me to try running these commands
[10:49] <pont> Cryptid, yea try that ?
[10:49] <frank_b> how does one do a "smart upgrade"?
[10:49] <Mephist0> locomorto: it says when i press tab "possible commands are: background blocklist boot cat chainloader clear cmp color configfile debug displayapm displaymem embed find foreground fstest geometry halt help hide impsprobe initrd install ioprobe kernel" and so on...
[10:49] <PlutoPrime> ColonelKernel, I'm afraid if you are looking for a Quicken or MS Money replacement your are out of luck
[10:49] <deFrysk> frank_, dits-upgrade = smart-upgrade
[10:49] <StrikeForce> Mephist0, does any other kernel options come up?
[10:49] <deFrysk> dist*
[10:49] <PlutoPrime> I doubt there is anything with that level of maturity and functionality
[10:50] <frank_b> thanks deFrysk
[10:50] <Cryptid> pont ok i will try it i will am now on the live disk i will reboot and if i have ne problems i will come back to u,, ne ways how long will u stay here?
[10:50] <Mephist0> StrikeForce: see my message to locomorto above...
[10:50] <linner> PlutoPrime, is there a Quickbooks replacement?
[10:50] <StrikeForce> Mephist0, I know wha tyou say but once you reboot
[10:50] <ColonelKernel> PlutoPrime, no more like an enterprise-level accounting software package like accpac
[10:50] <Mephist0> StrikeForce: i guess this is the bootloader and i just have to tell it from where it is supposed to boot..
[10:50] <StrikeForce> kk
[10:50] <Mat_25_> Hello
[10:50] <StrikeForce> Mephist0, I'll tell you how to do it
[10:50] <linner> Mat_25_, hello :)
[10:51] <Mephist0> StrikeForce: ok..
[10:51] <Mephist0> :D
[10:51] <pont> Cryptid, for a while,
[10:51] <PlutoPrime> linner, gnucash comes to mind
[10:51] <StrikeForce> Mephist0, do you know what kernel you have?
[10:51] <bigfoot1> where's xine (the program) located on a ubuntu pc
[10:51] <daejavu> how can i control the Services that start at boot time .. i mean before the Gnome Starts ?
[10:51] <bigfoot1> ?
[10:51] <Mephist0> StrikeForce: no :(
[10:51] <linner> PlutoPrime, oh okay... i saw that on a list somewhere
[10:51] <ColonelKernel> theres a few on freshmeat but I dont know which one would be good for a large business
[10:51] <StrikeForce> Mephist0, these are the commands that need to be edited
[10:51] <Mephist0> StrikeForce: i know that i have the hoary dist and that there was a kernel update via the update utility a while ago... the only kernel update i have seen..
[10:52] <iccafe03> june
[10:52] <StrikeForce> Mephist0, root            (hd2,1)
[10:52] <StrikeForce> your won't be hd2,1
[10:52] <StrikeForce> I'm not sure what your layout is
[10:52] <StrikeForce> is it on y our main drive
[10:52] <PlutoPrime> ColonelKernel, I would recommend trying them :( or read some user review if there are any
[10:52] <StrikeForce> what partition is it
[10:52] <pont> Has anyone experianced a problem while installing the AMD64 5.10 Relese when an error 'Not installing to unclean target
[10:52] <Cryptid> pont, ne way thanx for all ur help
[10:52] <Mephist0> StrikeForce: if i typ root it says "(hd0,0): filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83"
[10:52] <pont> nvm
[10:52] <StrikeForce> Mephist0, ok
[10:52] <zorba64> bigfoot1: tried it...didnt work at all...realplayer may be your only joy
[10:53] <StrikeForce> Mephist0, kernel          /vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-386 root=/dev/sda3 ro single
[10:53] <ColonelKernel> i was hoping someone here worked at a company that used one
[10:53] <PlutoPrime> Linux is lacking a little on the $$$ software. Makes it hard for businesses to use it as their main platform for all accounting purposes
[10:53] <bigfoot1> zorba64, okay. i'll install realplayer. thanks for your time.
[10:53] <StrikeForce> Mephist0, then initrd          /initrd.img-2.6.10-5-386
[10:53] <John6000> .
[10:53] <zorba64> bigfoot1: np
[10:53] <StrikeForce> Mephist0, then boot
[10:53] <Mephist0> strikeforce: when i typ kernel it says "error 1: filename must be either and absolute pathname or blocklist".. shall i enter your settings?
[10:54] <StrikeForce> Mephist0,  'initrd /initrd.img-2.6.10-5-386'
[10:54] <StrikeForce> assuming its hd0,0
[10:54] <StrikeForce> you don't know where you installed it?
[10:54] <StrikeForce> is it in your first hdd
[10:54] <StrikeForce> go from there
[10:54] <Mephist0> StrikeForce: yes, i only have one hdd in my comp.. and only with ubuntu on the comp...
[10:55] <PlutoPrime> ColonelKernel, there is a discussion on the ubuntu dev-mailing list regarding an ubuntu derivative for businesses that has a preinstalled set of business/accounting applications
[10:55] <StrikeForce> Mephist0, oh ok
[10:55] <Mephist0> StrikeForce: so shall i enter the settings you typed?
[10:55] <ColonelKernel> thanks
[10:55] <StrikeForce> Mephist0, then root (hd0,0)
[10:55] <PlutoPrime> I believe they discuss throughly what's currently available (Software)
[10:55] <Mephist0> StrikeForce: yes, that is already set right..
[10:55] <bigfoot1> i can't install the realplayer.bin file. I get an error message: The filename "RealPlayer10GOLD.bin" indicates that this file is of type "unknown". The contents of the file indicate that the file is of type "executable". If you open this file, the file might present a security risk to your system.
[10:55] <Mephist0> StrikeForce: but i need something for kernel and something for initrd
[10:55] <StrikeForce> Mephist0, initrd /initrd.img-2.6.10-5-386
[10:55] <StrikeForce> ahh k
[10:56] <Mephist0> StrikeForce: need kernel first..
[10:56] <StrikeForce> Mephist0, kernel          /vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-386 root=/dev/hda1 ro single
[10:56] <Mephist0> StrikeForce: ok.. hold on..
[10:56] <zorba64> bigfoot1: chmod +x Realpl.....bin
[10:56] <matrix> yeah getting used to it already =] 
[10:56] <StrikeForce> try that assuming the partitions are correct
[10:56] <bigfoot1> zorba64, ok. i didn't know that was necessary. i thought any .bin file could just be doubleclicked
[10:56] <bigfoot1> thanks, zorba64
[10:57] <StrikeForce> is it sata hdd of ata hdd?
[10:57] <zorba64> bigfoot1: not finished yet
[10:57] <bigfoot1> zorba64, huh?
[10:57] <Mephist0> StrikeForce: its ata
[10:57] <Mephist0> StrikeForce: i think its hda1.. ?
[10:57] <StrikeForce> ok well did you try that command then?
[10:57] <cHanTaL^^> yuui
[10:57] <matrix> Could not open "Ownage pics simple.rar"
[10:57] <matrix> Archive type not supported. :s
[10:57] <Mephist0> StrikeForce: im typing.. hold on :)
[10:57] <zorba64> bigfoot1: to install a .bin file you need to sudo sh RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[10:58] <matrix> do i have to reboot after i install packages ?
[10:58] <moyogo> matrix: in general no
[10:58] <StrikeForce> matrix, shouldn't need to
[10:58] <Knelix> Got folding@home running. :-)
[10:58] <pont> no
[10:58] <bigfoot1> zorba64, first i do chmod, then i do sudo sh
[10:58] <StrikeForce> Knelix, good work :)
[10:58] <zorba64> bigfoot1: yes
[10:58] <StrikeForce> bigfoot1, no just type it as stated before
[10:58] <matrix> well, i installed unrar and it still says it doesn't support my archive type
[10:58] <StrikeForce> zorba64, you don't need to
[10:59] <deFrysk> matrix, unrar-nofree ?
[10:59] <Mephist0> StrikeForce: it says "error 15: file not found"
[10:59] <Knelix> StrikeForce: On both my 1 Ghz G4 and my Sempron 2400+... which do you suppose is faster?
[10:59] <matrix> yep
[10:59] <deFrysk> nonfree*
[10:59] <Mat_25_> did someone tried mozilla-firefox, 1.0.7? I cannot launch firefox anymore after having installed it : it seems to be a permissions problem?!
[10:59] <StrikeForce> Mephist0, brb
[10:59] <matrix> yeah nonfree
[10:59] <deFrysk> too bad then :s
[10:59] <matrix> :s
[10:59] <pont> matrix, I use unrar from the console
[10:59] <zorba64> StrikeForce: but it is handy if it is not executable
[11:00] <bigfoot1> zorba64, StrikeForce, is it "chmod a+x RealPlayer10GOLD.bin" (as from realplayer.com's instructions) or "chmod +x RealPlayer10GOLD.bin" ?
[11:00] <pont> matrix, unrar-free e bla.rar
[11:00] <zorba64> bigfoot1: either
[11:00] <matrix> thats how i unrar in console ?
[11:00] <bigfoot1> zorba64, i get an error message: RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: cannot execute binary file
[11:00] <Mephist0> StrikeForce: ok.. when i type kernel / and press tab it says "possible files are: lost+found etc media cdrom var user........." and so on..
[11:00] <zorba64> ok try sudo ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[11:01] <pont> ok, during the AMD64 ubuntu install im getting the following error, An error was returned while trying to install the initrd-tools package onto the target system Check /target/var/log/bootstrap.log for details...
[11:01] <m0r0n> It s not worth to install RealPlayer on linux, it doesnt work
[11:01] <bigfoot1> zorba64, bingo!!!!!!
[11:01] <deFrysk> real player work fine here
[11:02] <ppcguy> hey all
[11:02] <brownie17> bigfoot1, yeha i was havign some problems with realplayer too, it's crappy
[11:02] <bigfoot1> where's a good place to install it? it wants to install to home/jef/realplayer. but i don't want to have  a cluttered home folder.
[11:02] <Knelix> StrikeForce: Thanks for the link, btw. Will keep it handy and look at it with a clearer head tomorrow. :-)
[11:02] <bigfoot1> zorba64,  the above is for you.
[11:02] <ppcguy> how do I reset my xserver config?
[11:02] <bigfoot1> brownie17, sorry to hear about your problems.
[11:03] <eamonn> ppcguy, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:03] <zorba64> bigfoot1: /opt/RealPlayer is a good place
[11:03] <pont> can you do a network install of ubuntu ?
[11:03] <ppcguy> thx
[11:03] <eamonn> ppcguy, or xorg-xserver, I always forget.
[11:03] <brownie17> bigfoot1, no worries, she's all sorted now! :)
[11:03] <bigfoot1> zorba64, thanks. i wonder why realplayer's default install location was at home/jeff/realplayer.
[11:04] <bigfoot1> brownie17, good to hear. Actually i'm installing realplayer in hopes it can do what my 4 other players (xine, vlc, etc) cannot.
[11:04] <m0r0n> Sorry, but I have to change to windowsxp to get realplayer startet
[11:04] <brownie17> hm.. what can they not do?
[11:04] <bigfoot1> play SMIL files.
[11:04] <brownie17> bigfoot1, because it might be that you just don't have the right plugins
[11:05] <bigfoot1> brownie17, try this http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil.php?passage=Luke+1
[11:05] <brownie17> bigfoot1, yeah it is working. what is it!?
[11:06] <fek> moin
[11:06] <brownie17> bigfoot1, oohh. i see you are always a man of the book?
[11:06] <bigfoot1> what is what? the link is an audio file.
[11:06] <brownie17> bigfoot1, also*
[11:06] <bigfoot1> brownie17, yes.
[11:06] <bigfoot1> brownie17, are you, too?
[11:07] <brownie17> bigfoot1, i am not a devout follower as such, but i have read the bible, and i go to church sometimes
[11:07] <matrix> ok one more question b4 i leave, prolly already anwsered it but...
[11:07] <matrix> typo's =] 
[11:08] <matrix> how do i run exe's again ?
[11:08] <Chousuke> matrix: with wine
[11:08] <Chousuke> or if they're linux executables, ./exe
[11:08] <matrix> ok where is wine and i just installed it
[11:08] <bigfoot1> brownie17, that book is my only sure guidebook in this world.
[11:08] <brownie17> can somebody help me?i want to find a program that wil shut the computer down at a certain time
[11:08] <Chousuke> matrix: just type wine windows.exe
[11:08] <brownie17> bigfoot1, :)
[11:09] <bigfoot1> brownie17, nice to meet you here.
[11:09] <brownie17> bigfoot1, same
[11:10] <brownie17> so what type of christianity are you?
[11:10] <bigfoot1> brownie17, when you tried that link i gave you, did you open up your audio program, or did you enter that url into your webbrowser?
[11:10] <brownie17> bigfoot1, i put that link into my web-browser, and it automatically played in real-player
[11:10] <bigfoot1> gotcha.
[11:11] <hussam> I can't seem to get to archive.ubuntu.com 82.211.81.182 times out. what should I do?
[11:11] <sam3773> Hey all. How do i mount a hard drive so i can see it? Both my Windows drives (hda)(hdb1) arn't mounted
[11:11] <cHanTaL^^> hello!
[11:11] <StrikeForce> Mephist0, what kernel do you have then?
[11:11] <hussam> 82.211.81.151 still works
[11:11] <[LethAL] > !tell sam3773 about ntfs
[11:11] <matrix> ok is that "wine (filename.exe)" or wine (dir, filename.exe)" ?
[11:11] <bigfoot1> I LOVE how I can control playback (fastforward, rewind, etc) on a streaming file with realplayer! I couldn't do these things with XINe, vlc, etc. I'm happy happy happy.!
[11:12] <zorba64> !ntfs
[11:12] <brownie17> sam3773, there is a way you can set it up to mount automatically on startup
[11:12] <bigfoot1> brownie17, could you please tell me what browser you use.
[11:12] <bigfoot1> ?
[11:12] <matrix> ...?
[11:12] <brownie17> bigfoot1, fire-fox 1.0.7 i think
[11:12] <Mephist0> StrikeForce: did you see my /msg i typed for you?
[11:12] <StrikeForce> Mephist0, yeah
[11:13] <StrikeForce> Mephist0, type this kernel /boot and keep pushing tab and maybe it'll show you what kernel you have
[11:13] <exalted> Hi. How to change lock screen image?
[11:13] <Mephist0> StrikeForce: ok.. i dont know how to find out wich kernel i have though... but it must be the latest one provided for hoary..
[11:13] <bigfoot1> brownie17, could you please look at firefox's plugins menu/window and tell me the info you have there for smi/smil files. i need that info.
[11:13] <sam3773> Yeah just got the bot tell me about it :D Damn i love this guy, fixed a problem i had yesturday aswell, cheers.
[11:13] <Mephist0> StrikeForce: ill try
[11:13] <StrikeForce> Mephist0, well that one I gave you was my latest one
[11:13] <bigfoot1> sam3773, whatcha talking about?
[11:13] <Mephist0> StrikeForce: YES
[11:13] <user01> hi
[11:14] <Mephist0> StrikeForce: it gives me different files here..
[11:14] <Mephist0> StrikeForce: can i send it as a message to you?
[11:14] <StrikeForce> Mephist0, well which one do you have?
[11:14] <StrikeForce> Mephist0, yeah go for it
[11:14] <brownie17> bigfoot1, im sorry, how do i find that information/
[11:14] <Knelix> G'night good Ubunto folk.
[11:14] <bigfoot1> brownie17, i'm not sure. maybe under preferences.
[11:15] <eyequeue> i suspect there's some series of piped commands that i'm just not seeing, but here's what i want to do (in console):
[11:15] <zorba64> brownie17: about:plugins in firefox address
[11:15] <sam3773> Aggghhh damn internets gone again, it goes every 10 mins and no sites load, GAIM stops working and the only thing that works is IRC.
[11:16] <brownie17> zorba64, THANX
[11:16] <eyequeue> search for a string foo in /var/mail/username, but the catch is, it appears the mail itse;f is mime-encoded, so i need a mime-decode app (munpack?) to operate on /var/mail/username first ... no success yet though
[11:16] <eyequeue> any ideas?
[11:16] <zorba64> brownie17: np
[11:16] <brownie17> bigfoot1, i will save them to a .doc file and email it to you?
[11:16] <bigfoot1> how can i change the default handler for opera? I want to change the SMI/SMIL handler from gedit to realplayer.
[11:16] <bigfoot1> brownie17, okay
[11:17] <eyequeue> munpack /var/mail/username | grep foo hasn't done as expected (and yes i do know foo is mentioned in a mail, just mime-encoded
[11:17] <zorba64> brownie17: use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/
[11:17] <eyequeue> )
[11:17] <Mephist0> StrikeForce: so shall i go for the vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-686 file?
[11:17] <zorba64> bigfoot1: you will have to drill into opera's settings
[11:17] <StrikeForce> Mephist0, if thats what you have yeah
[11:17] <manuk> Hi can anyone help me with a ps2 mouse please?
[11:17] <bigfoot1> zorba64, how do i do that?
[11:18] <brownie17> zorba64, rich text
[11:18] <Mephist0> StrikeForce: and after kernel is set?.. i do what?
[11:18] <matrix> nvm i found out how by myself ^_^
[11:18] <zorba64> bigfoot1: in the opera menus somewhere...have a look
[11:18] <brownie17> zorba64, actually, it might be understandable
[11:18] <StrikeForce> Mephist0, initrd          /initrd.img-2.6.10-5-686
[11:18] <sam3773> Anyone using a Dlink DSL-G604T?
[11:19] <bigfoot1> zorba64, are you sure that's what i should do? An idea just came into my head. I thought I should go to Nautilus, right click a smil file, select properties, go to "Open With" tab, and there, i select my desired default application. what do you think.
[11:19] <bigfoot1> ?
[11:19] <Mephist0> StrikeForce: grub> initrd /initrd   -> possible files are initrd initrd.img
[11:19] <Mephist0> StrikeForce: i guess i go for "initrd /initrd.img" then?
[11:20] <Mephist0> StrikeForce: sorry for beeing a pain in the ass ;)
[11:20] <zorba64> bigfoot1: if you intend to open it with nautilus sure...opera has its own settings
[11:20] <bigfoot1> zorba64,  i see.
[11:20] <Mephist0> StrikeForce: when this is set? what do i do? just reboot again?
[11:20] <manuk> Anyone can help me with ps2 mouse please?
[11:20] <StrikeForce> Mephist0, nope
[11:20] <StrikeForce> Mephist0, just type boot
[11:20] <Mephist0> StrikeForce: ok
[11:21] <StrikeForce> Mephist0, did it work?
[11:21] <zorba64> bigfoot1: i dont have it, i am sure it in the settings under one of those menus
[11:21] <brownie17> bigfoot1, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2486   the one about "helix" is the one you want
[11:21] <Mephist0> StrikeForce: woot.. something happend... but..
[11:21] <bigfoot1> brownie17, thank you!
[11:21] <StrikeForce> Mephist0, but what?
[11:22] <Mephist0> StrikeForce: it started to boot.. then a lot of text.. then the message "pivot_root: no such file or directory" [new line]  /sbin/init: 428: canot open dev/console: No such file [new line]  Kernel panic - not syncing: attemted to kill init!  [end] 
[11:22] <StrikeForce> Mephist0, what did you do to it?
[11:23] <StrikeForce> Mephist0, an update wouldn't cause that?
[11:23] <Mephist0> StrikeForce: :(((
[11:23] <Mephist0> StrikeForce: i did nothing else then the updates... i did not reboot between 2 updates... but i dont know if that is nessesary..
[11:23] <sam3773> Any ideas about turning IPv6 off? As Ubunut doesn't seem to have a /etc/modprobe.comf file
[11:23] <Mephist0> StrikeForce: system has been up for 40 days and been running perfect..
[11:24] <StrikeForce> Mephist0, thats wierd
[11:24] <StrikeForce> Mephist0, thats a major issue?
[11:24] <StrikeForce> Mephist0, you might have to fix it with the cd
[11:24] <Mephist0> StrikeForce: yes.. thats weird... thing is .. i have 11000 gallery images on that machine... (my whole life).. heh.. :( (nervous)
[11:24] <StrikeForce> Mephist0, see if you can log in using the cd
[11:25] <eyequeue> actually, if there's a gui means of finding the string foo in /var/mail/username, where the mails are mime-encoded, i'd like to hear that one too
[11:25] <StrikeForce> Mephist0, you'll log in fine
[11:25] <Mephist0> StrikeForce: i tried reboot again.. and came to the grub> again...
[11:25] <StrikeForce> Mephist0, get a live cd and mount the hdd doing that
[11:25] <Mephist0> StrikeForce: ok.. i want to try to get the system up though.. i have made so much settings with apache2, php, gallery and so on..
[11:25] <matrix> ok my other hdd does not have a *nix partition but, it has all my music on it how do i listen to it ? :|
[11:25] <geoff_theFish> anybody know what is the command to take a screenshot of current window from terminal
[11:26] <eyequeue> matrix:  mount that partition, then point your music-playing app at it
[11:26] <bob2> matrix: /msg ubotu ntfs
[11:26] <bob2> geoff_theFish: import
[11:26] <eyequeue> matrix:  mount -t whatevertype /dev/where /mountpoint
[11:27] <Mephist0> StrikeForce: shall i try another kernel exept vmlinuz? .. what if i try /boot/initrd.img-2.6.10-5-686?
[11:27] <matrix> eh the system can't even see the hdd so, how can i mount it :|
[11:27] <geoff_theFish> bob2: i get command not found for that
[11:27] <eyequeue> matrix:  can't see it?  what filesystem is on it?
[11:27] <sam3773> OK i have IRC working and GAIM.. But my browsers still won't connect to anything
[11:27] <bob2> geoff_theFish: install imagemagick
[11:27] <matrix> its ntfs
[11:27] <geoff_theFish> bob2: ok ta
[11:28] <eyequeue> matrix:  what bob2 said then
[11:28] <matrix> mount -t whatevertype /dev/where /mountpoint ?
[11:28] <Mephist0> StrikeForce: instead of using initrd /initrd.img  i used initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.10-5-686.. but the same fault.. cannot open dev/console...
[11:28] <matrix> rofl i need that in n00b terms
[11:29] <bigfoot1> I just installed realplayer 10. does this mean i can now get rid of vlc, xine, etc?
[11:29] <bob2> matrix: /msg ubotu ntfs
[11:29] <eyequeue> matrix:  here, in your irc client, type the following, without the quotes: "/msg uboto ntfs"
[11:29] <bob2> matrix: type that into your irc client and the bot will explain the rist
[11:29] <BoneE> woe
[11:29] <BoneE> wow
[11:29] <brownie17> can anybody tell me how i can choose what program gets opened for what filetype!?!?!
[11:29] <matrix> O.o ok
[11:29] <bob2> Mephist0: have you touched your grub config, compiled your own kernel or poked in /boot at all?
[11:29] <Mephist0> bob2: no.. not at all..
[11:30] <BoneE> what is the most stable relese that has everything
[11:30] <bob2> BoneE: hoary
[11:30] <Mephist0> bob2: all i did when this grub> prompt showed up before i did the kernel and initrd thing i did "setup (hd0)" command in grub> ...
[11:30] <eyequeue> BoneE:  everything including bugs? ;)
[11:30] <BoneE> that verison don't have w32codecs
[11:30] <StrikeForce> Mephist0, yeah can you google that
[11:30] <bob2> BoneE: no version of ubuntu has w32codecs
[11:30] <BoneE> and opther things that i don't wanna realse
[11:30] <StrikeForce> Mephist0, I don't know how to get around that
[11:30] <matrix> ok bot no explain
[11:31] <matrix> :s
[11:31] <bob2> !tell matrix about ntfs
[11:31] <bob2> matrix: yes, it did
[11:31] <Mephist0> StrikeForce: ok.. :(
[11:31] <matrix> o.O it did when u said that
[11:31] <BoneE> well the 4.10 with apt-get i can get w32codecs
[11:32] <linner> what does o.O mean?
[11:32] <bob2> BoneE: yes, the same twith hoary and breezy
[11:32] <emanuelez> From the title: "Firefox problems? Stop using crappy backports" mmm... not a very useful one... any better suggestion?
[11:32] <bob2> linner: it's some creepy "emoticon"
[11:32] <matrix> O.o means simply O
[11:32] <bob2> emanuelez: it's very useful
[11:32] <linner> oh okay :)
[11:32] <eyequeue> linner: eye/nose/eye, think iconic
[11:32] <matrix> like saying O with ur mouth
[11:32] <tudor> hello everyone.
[11:32] <bob2> emanuelez: get rid of all the backports lines from your sources.list
[11:32] <matrix> so i say O.o
[11:32] <BoneE> breezy fucked up my computer
[11:32] <linner> eyequeue, got it :)  thanks :)
[11:32] <Mephist0> StrikeForce: google what? the fault message i get when i try to boot?
[11:32] <BoneE> to many bugz
[11:33] <tudor> has anyone managed to install the unicorn drivers? for the usb adsl modem?
[11:33] <emanuelez> bob2: those crappy backports are suggested in ubuntuguide... maybe somebody should change that?
[11:33] <deFrysk> emanuelez, ubuntuguide should be taken down
[11:33] <eyequeue> emanuelez:  but ubuntuguide is not presently recommended
[11:33] <bob2> emanuelez: you'd need to talk to the ubuntuguide author
[11:33] <BoneE> hoary fucked up casuse of the backport
[11:33] <bob2> BoneE: did you report them?
[11:33] <bob2> BoneE: also, language please
[11:33] <BoneE> eng
[11:34] <sam3773> Does the version of Breezy that's out now (preview) have many bugs?
[11:34] <Mephist0> StrikeForce: check this out.. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=58221
[11:34] <Mephist0> bob2: check this out.. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=58221
[11:34] <BoneE> to me yes
[11:34] <brownie17> bob2, hahahah he obviously doesn't realise he swore
[11:34] <geoff_theFish> bob2: import working fine now - how do i know the id of window i want?
[11:34] <bob2> sam3773: it has some issues, yes
[11:34] <deFrysk> sam3773, not to bad but it still can be a challenge at some times
[11:34] <BoneE> casuse it messed up when it started after the insall
[11:34] <bob2> BoneE: if you encounter problems, you need to file bug reports
[11:34] <bob2> BoneE: or they will never be fixed
[11:34] <eyequeue> sam3773:  define "many" :)  yes, it's not ready for release yet, but it's also a ton better than a couple of months back when X broke each day
[11:34] <punkrockmcduck> hi everybody
[11:34] <bob2> geoff_theFish: I just use -window and click
[11:35] <sam3773> Haha sounds like great fun. :D
[11:35] <emanuelez> actually ubutnuguide was in this channel title until a few time ago... i'm pretty confused about it
[11:35] <eyequeue> sam3773:  also, since it's unstable (dynamic) it can break something important at any moment, technically
[11:35] <geoff_theFish> bob2: i want to do it programmatically tho
[11:35] <BoneE> i filed all bugz
[11:35] <bob2> geoff_theFish: er, I mean "import output.png" and click
[11:35] <ohphracku> anybody using vlc media player
[11:35] <ohphracku> ?
[11:35] <Mephist0> StrikeForce: more guys that has EXACTLY the same problems as me...
[11:35] <punkrockmcduck> i'm having trouble with the upgrade of x-common. what do I need to do?
[11:35] <bob2> geoff_theFish: oh, then you need to enter the fun world of X programming
[11:35] <eyequeue> sam3773:  that said, i'm on it now without major complaints really
[11:35] <bob2> punkrockmcduck: don't upgrade until it's fixed on your local mirror
[11:36] <bob2> emanuelez: yes, it's fine if you understand it
[11:36] <BoneE> what can i use to play vcd and dvd
[11:36] <geoff_theFish> bob2: oh dear sounds scary i want to do it from python
[11:36] <bob2> emanuelez: following it blindly will lead to issues, tho
[11:36] <BoneE> i mean verison
[11:36] <punkrockmcduck> thanks
[11:36] <bob2> BoneE: /msg ubotu restricted
[11:36] <sam3773> eyequeue: Heh, i'll just stick with Hoary for now and try and fix my IPv6 problem :P
[11:36] <KungFuHamster> I've got a quick question: Will the Ubuntu install CD boot and install from a serial ATA optical drive?
[11:36] <eyequeue> sam3773:  wise choice :)
[11:36] <bob2> punkrockmcduck: (it's been fixed for people using arhcive,ubuntu.com)
[11:36] <bob2> KungFuHamster: probably, if your bios can boot it
[11:36] <bob2> geoff_theFish: it's possibly, try #python
[11:36] <emanuelez> ok... commented the backport lines in my sources.list and update apt... still the problem is there
[11:37] <tudor> has anyone managed to install the unicorn drivers? for the usb adsl modem?
[11:37] <KungFuHamster> bob2: That's what I thought about Gentoo, Debian, Fedora, Knoppix and a lot of others, too. No luck.
[11:37] <bob2> emanuelez: and the full output of apt should be in #flood or pastebin
[11:37] <bob2> KungFuHamster: ?
[11:38] <KungFuHamster> bob2: None would boot from a sata DVD burner. The kernels they were using didn't haev support for them
[11:38] <bob2> KungFuHamster: but your BIOS does support booting from it?
[11:38] <bob2> using "backports" for firefox is especially stupid
[11:39] <emanuelez> bob2: flooded
[11:39] <bob2> since 1.0.6 is in hoary-security, anyway
[11:39] <KungFuHamster> The BIOS will boot from it fine. The problem is that the kernels these install CDs are using don't have serial ATA optical drive support from them, so the DVD drive doesn't exist to them.
[11:39] <linner> !tell linner about backports
[11:39] <eyequeue> bob2:  will 1.0.7 be in security soon too?
[11:39] <bob2> emanuelez: when going from hoary to breezy?
[11:39] <bigfoot1> opera has no memory leaks right?
[11:39] <bob2> KungFuHamster: so the kernel boots but the installer can't find the dvd?
[11:40] <bigfoot1> opera has no memory leaks, right?
[11:40] <bob2> bigfoot1: that's almost certainly false
[11:40] <waichun> hey is ubuntu supports aterm?
[11:40] <bob2> waichun: it's included in the unsupported section of ubuntu
[11:40] <bigfoot1> bob2, i am using opera only because firefox has memory leaks.
[11:40] <emanuelez> bob2: when breezy will be officially released i guess
[11:40] <KungFuHamster> The kernel boots up until it had to mount the root FS. Since it needs the drive to find what it needs to load into ram, it can't mount the root fs because it can't find what it needs to mount.
[11:40] <bob2> emanuelez: you're getting that error when just upgrading against hoary, then?
[11:40] <bob2> KungFuHamster: right
[11:41] <emanuelez> bob2: yup
[11:41] <bob2> KungFuHamster: you can file a bug on bugzilla.ubuntu.com asking for it to be supported
[11:41] <waichun> bob2 where can i see the list of unsupported software?
[11:41] <bigfoot1> fx is a lot better to use, but i started looking for some other browser when i heard of its memory leaks. and because i have a 3 year old pc, i can't afford memory leaks.
[11:41] <emanuelez> i tried to remove the old gnome-support package but it didn't work
[11:41] <bob2> waichun: it's...14 000-odd packages
[11:41] <bob2> emanuelez: sudo dpkg --purge --force-depends mozilla-firefox mozilla-firefox-gnome-support ; sudo apt-get install -f ubuntu-desktop
[11:41] <KungFuHamster> bob2: That's all well and dandy, but I'm trying to get Linux installed NOW, not after a dev finally decided to get around to fixing this one little problem one user is having
[11:42] <bob2> KungFuHamster: okiedokie
[11:42] <bigfoot1> is breezy released on 10/01?
[11:42] <bob2> bigfoot1: no
[11:42] <bob2> bigfoot1: october 13
[11:42] <brownie17> bigfoot1, 13th oct
[11:43] <brownie17> bob2, is that subject to spontaneous change? do you think it will change?
[11:43] <bigfoot1> i hope breezy can support my pocket pc. at the moment, i haven't exerted much effort into trying to get my pocket pc to sync with hoary hedgehog
[11:43] <Tomcat_> So far they have always kept the date I think.
[11:43] <bob2> brownie17: it could change if serious issues crop up
[11:43] <emanuelez> bob2: not working... mozilla-firefox-gnome-support is not installed
[11:43] <bob2> hoary was a day late, iirc
[11:44] <Tomcat_> Well I'm on CET anyway, so Oct 13 can mean anything between Oct 12 and Oct 14 for me. ;)
[11:44] <bob2> emanuelez: sudo dpkg --purge firefox-gnome-support firefox ; sudo apt-get install -f ubuntu-desktop
[11:44] <bob2> I got it backwards, sorry
[11:44] <marc_> Mephist0, ?
[11:44] <marc_> Mephist0, any luck
[11:45] <linner> bob2, you're always in here at night my time... where are you from?
[11:45] <linner> or rather early morning
[11:46] <sam3773> Urm, trying to play music, loaded up my music and all i got was a list of "No plugin installed to handle a MP3 file"
[11:46] <Mephist0> marc_: no.. w8.. i have not read in the channel for a while.. there is a thread about this problem.. have you seen it? i posted in that thread now.. seems like more ppl have the problem: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=368498
[11:46] <bob2> linner: australia
[11:46] <bob2> sam3773: yes, that's in the faq. /msg ubotu restricted
[11:46] <brownie17> bob2,  aussie aussie aussie
[11:46] <vbgunz> I am using Breezy... Can someone help me troubleshoot why my Memory in System Monitor is at 88% in use... I've opened the monitor *but* do not see anything using all that memory under all processes... What could it be?
[11:46] <linner> bob2, ahhhh... makes more sense
[11:46] <eyequeue> bob2:  odd, i'd never realized your location, heh
[11:46] <marc_> Mephist0, ok
[11:46] <emanuelez> bob2: that worked... after an apt-get install -f
[11:46] <bob2> brownie17: oi oi oi
[11:46] <brownie17> vbgunz, maybe you need to upgrade from your 22mhx processor
[11:46] <bob2> emanuelez: great
[11:47] <marc_> soryr got disconencted and my other user is still there
[11:47] <vbgunz> :P
[11:47] <bob2> vbgunz: the kernel will use all the ram it can for disk cache, to speed thigns up
[11:47] <Mephist0> marc_: i guess you dont have any new ideas? :-/
[11:47] <bob2> vbgunz: if an application needs it, it will get it
[11:47] <Mephist0> marc_: now i finnished up reading the channel here..
[11:47] <vbgunz> so this is ok? 88% in use 61% cache
[11:47] <emanuelez> so... is there any difference between backports and unsopported software?
[11:48] <eyequeue> emanuelez:  yes
[11:48] <marc_> Mephist0, got no idea
[11:48] <kemik> backports is new versions of the "supported" software or whatever you like
[11:48] <emanuelez> eyequeue: is unsupported software better?
[11:48] <bob2> vbgunz: that's fine
[11:48] <eyequeue> emanuelez:  backports are things that are in a later release version, but are recompiled to work gsint the current stable version's libraries
[11:48] <vbgunz> thanks bob2
[11:48] <Jhair> emanuelez: backports aren't officially supported
[11:48] <bob2> well
[11:48] <Mephist0> marc_: ok.. i guess i just have to wait for somone at the forum to post then :( .. my server will be down i guess.. heh.. :-/
[11:48] <bob2> they sort of allegedly are supported
[11:49] <bob2> but hte people who make them don't appear to be interested in helping
[11:49] <eyequeue> emanuelez:  unsupported are apps that are not in the official ubuntu, but are commonly desired, such as apps in debian
[11:49] <marc_> Mephist0, either that or upgrade to breezy like I have :)
[11:49] <mon2x> f
[11:49] <mon2x> help me beacuase
[11:49] <Mephist0> marc_: that is a sollution.. but what happens to my old system then? will i keep all my settings?
[11:49] <eyequeue> emanuelez:  so a team of Masters of the universe" basically made ubuntu-compatible versions
[11:50] <marc_> Mephist0, should do
[11:50] <marc_> Mephist0, if you reinstall you won't
[11:50] <marc_>  Mephist0 unless its on a separate partition
[11:50] <vbgunz> anyone know how to hack the dictionary so to search once I am done typing? It seems to lag bad for some reason... i checked the preferences but didn't see any options "find on type, etc"...
[11:50] <mon2x> how to install a yahoo messenger
[11:50] <Mephist0> marc_: dang... then i need this to work.. heh.. i have made sooo many settings..
[11:50] <eyequeue> emanuelez:  "better" is always opinion, but i think many find unsupported (like "universe") to make them happy :)
[11:50] <bob2> mon2x: applications -> internet -> gaim
[11:51] <marc_> Mephist0, I was going to say mount it using a live cd
[11:51] <Mephist0> marc_: i run a gallery for a lot of users.. i have 11000 picutres in that gallery.. quite high traffic too...
[11:51] <vbgunz> yup gaim is equivalent to yahoo messenger
[11:51] <mon2x> somebody respond
[11:51] <marc_> Mephist0, mount the hdd and transfer it somehwere
[11:51] <Mephist0> marc_: yes.. but that wont help me get it up running again.. but that way i can maybe save whats on the hd anyway..
[11:51] <bob2> mon2x: please don't be annoying by ignoring the answers you get
[11:51] <Mephist0> marc_: yes..
[11:51] <eyequeue> mon2x:  two already ave ... gaim is yahoo plus other protocols as well :)
[11:51] <marc_> Mephist0, yeah thats all you can do if you need it urgently
[11:51] <vbgunz> hey bob2, gaim does not support voip does it? I wanted to talk to a friend on MSN but didn't know how to initiate the combo
[11:52] <bob2> vbgunz: no idea
[11:52] <ohphracku> gnomemeeting
[11:52] <Mephist0> marc_: if i reinstall i prolly use another hdd.. then i just plug this old one in and mount it and transfer all the stuff.. but there will still be a lot of work.. :-/
[11:52] <bob2> vbgunz: I'd be using gnomemeeting for that sort of thing
[11:52] <vbgunz> thanks!
[11:52] <marc_> Mephist0, not really
[11:52] <Mephist0> marc_: ill try to wait... :)
[11:52] <linner> has anyone used openSuSE?
[11:52] <marc_> Mephist0, ok just giving you options
[11:52] <vbgunz> I was thinking about skype...
[11:52] <ohphracku> yes me
[11:52] <Mephist0> marc_: yes.. that is appreciated! :)
[11:52] <ohphracku> on dual xeon
[11:52] <Mephist0> marc_: you said not really?
[11:52] <linner> ohphracku, you are?
[11:53] <[zeno] > hi2alla
[11:53] <eyequeue> vbgunz:  gnomemeeting uses an openprotocol, h323, skype is closed, proprietary
[11:53] <linner> ohphracku, are you using it now?
[11:53] <linner> if so... pm me
[11:53] <ohphracku> im not on that box now but yes im using the Super
[11:53] <vbgunz> ok will then go for gnomemeeting
[11:53] <vbgunz> but what do I tell Windows users to user so to talk with me?
[11:53] <ohphracku> Super opensuse
[11:53] <linner> ohphracku, please PM me..  I have questions for you .....
[11:53] <eyequeue> vbgunz:  i'd always choose the open protocol, given a choice, and if both work for both people
[11:53] <linner> or may i pm you?
[11:54] <yonil> i've added a new user to my ubuntu system, but he doesn't have sound - how do i set it ?
[11:54] <ohphracku> yes you may
[11:54] <eyequeue> vbgunz:  don't quote me on this, but i think there's a *meeting that gnomemeeting is patterned after ... "netmeeting" maybe?
[11:54] <linner> thank you
[11:54] <marc_> Mephist0, notreally?
[11:55] <vbgunz> eyequeue: will windows netmeeting work with gnomemeeting?
[11:55] <bob2> yonil: add them to the audio group
[11:55] <benuk> hey, i installed ubuntu with noapic, the amd64 copy doesnt detect my harddrive,  the i386 installs fine,  but hangs on the splash gnome screen
[11:55] <eyequeue> vbgunz:  a google search for "windows h323" probably tells the actual name
[11:55] <marc_> Mephist0, relating to getting it up and running
[11:55] <benuk> please please please help
[11:55] <eyequeue> vbgunz:  sure, an open protocol means compatibility :)
[11:55] <ohphracku> where are you? linner
[11:55] <linner> ohphracku, i'm there :)
[11:55] <ohphracku> k
[11:55] <vbgunz> it sort of sucks... I chat with buddies and family over msn... have a bunch too... I don't mid changing but sometimes migrating means to migrate others :P
[11:56] <bob2> benuk: there's no need to be annoying by begging
[11:56] <vbgunz> thanks eyequeue, I will look into it!
[11:56] <yonil> bob2, thanks i'll try
[11:56] <eyequeue> vbgunz:  i hear you, especially if they're on something proprietary
[11:56] <bob2> benuk: if the amd64 version fails to install on your amd64 machine, then you should file a bug on bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[11:56] <Inf3ctedfx> which one is better, emule or edonkey?
[11:56] <vbgunz> I understand... Just read some really good articles about Linus that made me see it differently... am really appreciating it
[11:57] <StrikeForce> beauty back to normal
[11:57] <vbgunz> Linux* not Linus
[11:57] <eyequeue> vbgunz:  how long have you been on linux? ubuntu?
[11:57] <vbgunz> less than a month
[11:57] <eyequeue> vbgunz:  well welcome, it sounds like you're making good progress
[11:57] <Inf3ctedfx> which do you recommend emule or edonkey?
[11:58] <kemik> vbgunz:  got link to the interview/articles ?
[11:58] <brownie17> Inf3ctedfx, both based on the same thing, both use same network, but use aMule, because there is more support for it in here than edonkey, (i think)
[11:58] <vbgunz> hey eyequeue... just curious... I see sometimes people address me through IRC... how do you do that?
[11:58] <vbgunz> I have a few links
[11:58] <vbgunz> one sec, will show you...
[11:58] <rejden> vbgunz, adress?
[11:58] <cevizoglu> vbgunz, do you mean /msg  ?
[11:58] <rejden> cevizoglu, i bet he means query :)
[11:58] <vbgunz> like do you manually type rejden: name: or do you click on my name or something and then type?
[11:58] <eyequeue> vbgunz:  as in when i begin a line with "vbgunz" like this one?  or when it's private just to you (as /msg vbgunz whatever)
[11:59] <vbgunz> finding those articles
[11:59] <eyequeue> vbgunz:  i type vb then hit tab, and my client auto-completes you nick :)  some do, some don't
[11:59] <Mephist0> StrikeForce: i gonna leave now.. but i posted the problem in a thread.. and more ppl seems to have the problem.. thanks for takeing the time to help me! i found others that have the same problem now.. so we might get to a sollution.. thx!
[11:59] <rejden> vbgunz, oh i'm using irssi irc client and he do that with TAB word completition
[11:59] <linner> ohphracku, where are you?
[11:59] <ohphracku> here
[11:59] <linner> did you get my messages?
[11:59] <StrikeForce> Mephist0, good luck
[12:00] <vbgunz> this was by far the most interesting article I read up on Linux... I read the whole page a little while ago... Really made me appreciate Linux http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[12:00] <ohphracku> yes i replied
[12:00] <StrikeForce> Mephist0, glad to at least help out
[12:00] <Mephist0> StrikeForce: i might need it ;)
[12:00] <linner> you did?
[12:00] <ohphracku> yeah
[12:00] <Mephist0> StrikeForce: im happy you did.. thx! :)
[12:00] <linner> oh wow... i don't see the window
[12:00] <linner> hmmm...
[12:00] <matrix> ok where do progs install to cause i installed winrar don't know if it will work but i need to unrar these files -_-
[12:00] <ohphracku> hehe
[12:00] <eyequeue> vbgunz:  i type worth (&^%^ so auto-complete is good for me :) (works in the bash shell too, try it some time)
[12:00] <linner> ohphracku, will you join #ubuntu-offtopic?
[12:01] <linner> for some reason i'm not getting your messages
[12:01] <cevizoglu> matrix, type "whereis unrar" or "which unrar" or "locate unrar | less"
[12:01] <ohphracku> ok
[12:01] <linner> t y
[12:01] <linner> :)
[12:01] <kemik> matrix:  i think "unrar-nonfree" would be a good choice instead of winrar
[12:01] <StrikeForce> Mephist0, anytime
[12:01] <matrix> well, unrar won't open the archives -_-
[12:01] <kemik> matrix:  typically apps get installed in /bin /usr/bin /usl/local/bin or something
[12:01] <kemik> matrix:  unrar-nonfree will
[12:01] <matrix> nope
[12:01] <matrix> thats the one i installed
[12:01] <vbgunz> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `&'
[12:01] <kemik> how are you using it ?
[12:02] <matrix> says "archive type not supported"
[12:02] <eyequeue> matrix:  the unrar app itse;f should proably be installed to /usr/bin/unrar, but you don't need to know that, just type "unrar" at the command line and it should be in your path
[12:02] <kemik> matrix:  that's really weird.. i've opened all my .rar archives with unrar and i have alot fo those
[12:02] <matrix> i double clicked on the archives
[12:02] <matrix> and got that msg
[12:03] <eyequeue> "clicked"?  is unrar-nonfree a gui app too?
[12:03] <ohphracku> waiting! linner
[12:03] <linner> ohphracku, you must be invisible!
[12:03] <kemik> matrix:  use the CLI
[12:03] <ohphracku> :-)
[12:03] <linner> I can't see you :)
[12:03] <matrix> <- lost
[12:03] <kemik> matrix:  command line
[12:03] <ohphracku> my firewall maybe?
[12:03] <eyequeue> i think i hear the problem, heh
[12:03] <linner> ohphracku, maybe
[12:03] <ohphracku> thats weird
[12:03] <kemik> matrix:  starta a terminal, goto where the archive is located and type "unrar e archive.rar"
[12:03] <ohphracku> oh my bad
[12:03] <linner> let me try just talking in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:03] <ohphracku> hold on
[12:04] <eyequeue> matrix:  "clicked"makes me think you're using a mouse, rather than typing a command line into a terminal screen
[12:04] <linner> ok
[12:04] <vbgunz> this was another good read... through this forum posting I found the link to the "Linux is not Windows" page... It's called Anatomy of a well-intentioned Linux Troll http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=58017
[12:04] <matrix> lol i am using the mouse -_-
[12:04] <vbgunz> those two articles opened my eyes and thinking a bit... nice
[12:04] <vbgunz> thanks!
[12:04] <kemik> vbgunz:  think i read part of the "Linux is not windows" 'article'... didnt like it that much
[12:04] <eyequeue> matrix:  unless a package installs a gui app, it's very likely that it may install a commandline-(only) app :)
[12:05] <matrix> ok did the cmd line and it says unable to extract
[12:05] <kemik> eyequeue:  yeah, but i *think* unrar is incorporated in file-roller
[12:05] <kemik> matrix:  aight.. well my guess is that your .rar is broken or not a .rar archive at all
[12:05] <matrix> "cannot open"
[12:06] <matrix> um it works fine on windows :|
[12:06] <matrix> O.o forgot i'm not on windows
[12:06] <kemik> matrix:  do a "ls -lha" and see which filepermissions it has
[12:06] <eyequeue> kemik:  i checked "apt-cache show file-roller" but it doesn't mention it there at least
[12:06] <vbgunz> I've used Windows for over 10 years... To be honest, that article hit a good spot towards me because it made me realize I wasn't trying to try out Linux because it's Linux *but* because I personally am getting tired and wish to escape Windows...
[12:07] <kemik> eyequeue:  well i can double click my .rar's since i installed unrar-nonfree and extract using the archive.manager/file-roller what its name is :)
[12:07] <vbgunz> I do accept the fact Linux is not a replacement and that I have to learn... the same I did with Windows when I started way back when...
[12:07] <vbgunz> ;)
[12:07] <eyequeue> matrix:  assuming your archive is named "foo.rar" type this is a terminal:  "file foo.rar" (without quotes)
[12:07] <matrix> "cannot open, no such file or directory"
[12:07] <matrix> -_-
[12:08] <eyequeue> kemik:  the "long description" may not mention it, but it may be configured to use it if present then?  ah yes, ... Suggests: lha, unrar, unzip, zip, rpm, arj
[12:08] <kemik> eyequeue:  yup
[12:08] <kemik> eyequeue:  it's just a nice gui.wrapper to those applications
[12:08] <vbgunz> one sec, brb
[12:08] <eyequeue> kemik:  show how often i use gui apps, heh
[12:09] <kemik> i use the cli alot
[12:09] <kemik> but sometimes im in nautilus and then its more convenient to use the gui.app =)
[12:09] <dalamar> yeah it just works after unrar is installed from file-roller/gui
[12:09] <eyequeue> kemik:  yeah, ideal for someone nervous about cli, like many starting with ubuntu, i'll try to remember that
[12:09] <sam3773> Anyone know how to play MP3s in Ubuntu? Or where i can get the codec from?
[12:09] <kemik> !tell sam3773 about restricted
[12:09] <kemik> !tell sam3773 about mp3
[12:10] <matrix> ok well, bbl to bother u guys 6 am here -_- sleepy time for me
[12:10] <eyequeue> kemik:  it's really a matter of habits, if you learned with a mouse, you think of that first ... i'm just old, heh
[12:10] <vbgunz> Can someone create an Open With As right click menu item for Ubuntu?
[12:11] <vbgunz> "Open With As" Means open file "sources.list" with "gedit" as "root"
[12:11] <kemik> well... i've gotten accustomed to the gui's ... my PC career started in Dos 5.0 or so, so im pretty happy on the CLI aswell ;)
[12:11] <kemik> vbgunz:  yeah you can do that
[12:11] <kemik> vbgunz:  oh.. i assumed you meant in nautilus.. maybe you dont ?
[12:12] <eyequeue> kemik:  fluent in multiple countries is always better than in just one, heh
[12:12] <vbgunz> I mean achieve that affect in Nautilus ;)
[12:12] <[sdefresne] > !tell [sdefresne]  about restricted
[12:12] <vbgunz> right click a file or folder anywhere > "Open With As..."
[12:12] <vbgunz> thats the next generation :D
[12:12] <Inf3ctedfx> ok ppl, I'm trying to access to my Slave Hdd, but I cannot find the way to access, this is my fstab:  /dev/hdb1       /media/slave    ntfs    nls=utf8,umask=0222 0       0
[12:13] <vbgunz> brb
[12:13] <Inf3ctedfx> do I have to add the number 1 after hdb? or not?
[12:13] <xophEr> Inf3ctedfx, yes
[12:13] <kemik> vbgunz:  just do right-click "open with other application" and enter a custom command in the bottom, like "gksudo gedit sources.list"
[12:14] <eyequeue> Inf3ctedfx:  perhaps you really mean /dev/hdb0 ?  counting starts at 0, if that helps
[12:14] <Cimmerian> you could try a cfdisk /dev/hdb to see what number to use, unless you know it's /dev/hdb1 of course...
[12:14] <kemik> even tho that's an ugly way todo it ;)
[12:14] <Inf3ctedfx> ok I done that xophEr , but when I go to /media/slave and then I do an LS  it doesnt show me anything
[12:14] <eyequeue> Inf3ctedfx:  hdb1 means the second partition on the second physical drive
[12:14] <Inf3ctedfx> u maybe right eyequeue
[12:14] <Inf3ctedfx> let me try that one
[12:14] <eyequeue> Inf3ctedfx:  whereas hdb0 means the first partition on the second physical drive
[12:14] <kemik> Inf3ctedfx:  disregard all them and use "sudo fdisk -l"
[12:15] <bigfoot1> friends, lend me your eyes: how do i make the font size of all my menus in all my gui programs smaller? and how do i make the spacing tighter between each line?
[12:15] <kemik> eyequeue:  no, counting starts on 1, in grub it starts on 0
[12:15] <[LethAL] > bigfoot1, System, Preferneces, fonts
[12:15] <Inf3ctedfx> ok kemik
[12:15] <Inf3ctedfx> let me show u on the #flood channel
[12:15] <r0d> bigfoot1, your talking? :)
[12:16] <bigfoot1> r0d, yes, i'm talking with my fingers
[12:16] <eyequeue> Inf3ctedfx:  my bad sorry, kemik thanks
[12:16] <Inf3ctedfx> its ok
[12:16] <Inf3ctedfx> thx anyway
[12:17] <ompaul> Inf3ctedfx, better to use paste.ubuntulinux.nl because if you can't do it, others can without the user having to go through the same steps several times :)
[12:17] <xophEr> Inf3ctedfx, and youve mounted it too right? :P
[12:17] <Cimmerian> if you change the font size in the font preferences for gnome (and kde if you use any kde/qt progs), you should have covered most of your programs
[12:17] <Inf3ctedfx> well when I execute the "mount /dev/hdb1 /media/slave " it said is already mounted
[12:17] <ompaul> Inf3ctedfx,  others can view without ... :)
[12:17] <bigfoot1> [LethAL] , thank you very macho.
[12:17] <Cimmerian> also, i think changing the dpi settings would affect just about everything
[12:17] <bigfoot1> now how can i make the spacing between the stuff in application menus tighter?
[12:18] <eyequeue> Inf3ctedfx:  type "sudo mount" without any arguments, and see if it's listed
[12:18] <Inf3ctedfx> ok hold on let me c
[12:18] <Inf3ctedfx> look eyequeue :  inf3ctedfx@ubuntu:/etc$ sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /media/slave
[12:18] <Inf3ctedfx> inf3ctedfx@ubuntu:/etc$ cd /media/slave/
[12:18] <Inf3ctedfx> bash: cd: /media/slave/: Permission denied
[12:18] <bigfoot1> you know what system/preferences/fonts don't change the font sizes in opera. how can i change opera as well?
[12:18] <cyphase> anyone notice the recent redesigns of several tech-related websites?
[12:19] <eyequeue> Inf3ctedfx:  type "sudo mount" ***without any arguments***, and see if it's listed
[12:19] <kemik> Inf3ctedfx:  it's because it's mounted as root
[12:19] <r0d> eyequeue,  yea slashdot was one of em
[12:19] <sorush20> guys I keep getting this error what should I do.. E: /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/var/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions.d/00classic', which is also in package firefox
[12:19] <cyphase> and C|Net
[12:19] <cyphase> and EWeek
[12:19] <Inf3ctedfx> ok let try that one eyequeue
[12:19] <eyequeue> r0d:  ?
[12:19] <LokeDK> If I use loadkeys, will it set to permanent keymap? also after reboot?
[12:19] <gnumbo> sorush20: me too
[12:20] <r0d> eyequeue, slashdot.org posted that they made changes. w/ CSS
[12:20] <r0d> upgrading..
[12:20] <Cimmerian> bigfoot1: i think opera has it's own font settings in it's preferences, you could try looking through those
[12:20] <cyphase> r0d, i think you meant to message me..
[12:20] <eyequeue> r0d:  i think i missed the beginning of this conversation ... is my nick perhaps a failure of auto-complete?
[12:20] <cyphase> lol
[12:20] <r0d> lol
[12:21] <eyequeue> r0d:  i think i missed the beginning of this conversation ... is my nick perhaps a failure of brain-complete? ;)  (more my speed tonight)
[12:21] <r0d> cyphase, guess thats what i get be lazy
[12:21] <[zeno] > hi, i have a problem with the upgrade of Ubuntu: today i've tried to update system and i found 2 upgrades for firefox but, after the download of the packets, i have an error... broken pipe! Do you have a similar problem?
[12:22] <eyequeue> [zeno] :  no such problem here, but i have a guess, does "df" show one of your drives is full?
[12:22] <r0d> eyequeue,  that and lack of sleep
[12:22] <sam_> Anyone know a way of getting Shockwave on Ubuntu without having to use an emulator?
[12:22] <kemik> !tell Inf3ctedfx about ntfs
[12:22] <apsync> hi, is there a shortcut to switch between empty desktops
[12:22] <eyequeue> r0d:  you've been watching me huh? ;)
[12:23] <r0d> :D
[12:23] <[zeno] > eyequeue: the hard disk is not full!
[12:23] <eyequeue> apsync:  if in gnome, you can click on one of those four boxes in the lower right corner
[12:23] <vbgunz> kemik, that is exactly what I am doing now
[12:23] <daejavu> Need some help with Java Runtime Enviourment ...
[12:24] <apsync> so there is no keyboard key-combination shortcut?
[12:24] <[zeno] > eyequeue: the problem is that ubuntu tries to write a file and it can't
[12:24] <eyequeue> apsync:  with the keyboard, you can use alt-ctrl-rightarrow or leftarrow
[12:24] <[zeno] > it's strange
[12:24] <sam_> Sooo No Shockwave support in Linux at all without an emulator?!
[12:24] <kemik> vbgunz:  ok =)
[12:24] <daejavu> can anyone help with Java Please ?
[12:24] <paul_> hello
[12:24] <r0d> anyone here a vmware user w/ xp?
[12:24] <vbgunz> I guess I have to accept that's how it's done ;)
[12:24] <vbgunz> I use vmware
[12:24] <apsync> ah cool, thanks
[12:25] <r0d> vbgunz, for some odd reason my ubuntu hates the windows xp cd
[12:25] <kemik> r0d:  that's just healthy ;)
[12:25] <r0d> the cd rpm's go to 100,000,00 on my cdrom drive
[12:25] <eyequeue> apsync:  two things i use often, that one to switch desktops, and the same *without* the alt to switch between firefox tabs
[12:25] <[zeno] > eyequeue: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[12:25] <vbgunz> you're using vmware onto of Ubuntu trying to install XP from cdrom?
[12:25] <r0d> its weird, if not funny
[12:26] <r0d> lol kemik im beginning to think so
[12:26] <vbgunz> workstation 5?
[12:26] <r0d> yep
[12:26] <eyequeue> r0d:  is this before or after takeoff, heh
[12:26] <kemik> vbgunz:  there is a plugin for nautilus to fix better right-click menus
[12:26] <vbgunz> can you tell me?
[12:26] <kemik> vbgunz:  but it looked to be a hassle to compile
[12:26] <r0d> eyequeue, i hit the abort button before ignition
[12:26] <bimberi> vbgunz: Just finished reading that LNW article - teriffic - thanks for pointing to it :)
[12:26] <vbgunz> ahh man, I am not up to the compiling stage yet...
[12:27] <eyequeue> [zeno] :  above that line, there is an error like that says what file it couldn't write
[12:27] <eyequeue> error liNe
[12:27] <vbgunz> cool bimberi... you're new to Linux too?
[12:27] <bimberi> vbgunz: no, a relatively old hand actually
[12:27] <vbgunz> whether you're new or not... it is cool
[12:27] <[zeno] > eyequeue: files are: /var/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions.d/00classic
[12:27] <kemik> vbgunz:  saw an article about it on arstechnica .... cant find it now
[12:27] <sam_> Damn Macromedia :(
[12:28] <[zeno] > and /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/libmozgnome.so
[12:28] <bimberi> vbgunz: but always on the lookout for good descriptions of what its about - because I get asked
[12:28] <vbgunz> I remember before starting with Ubuntu I kept saying to myself "I need to get away from Windows" not actually realizing what I was saying when thinking switching to Linux would be easy or the answer... am trying though...
[12:28] <eyequeue> [zeno] :  that directory should exist, so i'm out of ideas, sorry
[12:28] <[zeno] > ok, tnx eyequeue
[12:29] <kemik> vbgunz:  http://www.grumz.net/index.php?q=node/8  link to the project, link to the article: http://arstechnica.com/columns/linux/linux-20050907.ars/6
[12:29] <sorush20> guys should I use xorg or xfree86
[12:29] <vbgunz> kemik: thanks!
[12:29] <sam_> Hmm i wonder..
[12:29] <kemik> vbgunz:  well windows is alot more userfriendly
[12:29] <brownie17> kemik, and expensive :P
[12:29] <eyequeue> sorush20:  xorg (default in ubuntu)
[12:29] <sam_> !Tell sam_ about shockwave
[12:30] <daejavu> does anyone has  J2RE installed ??
[12:30] <sam_> ... Dumb bot.
[12:30] <kemik> brownie17:  or illegal ;)
[12:30] <ohphracku> user friendl means the machine thinks for you
[12:30] <kemik> !tell sam about shockwave
[12:30] <kemik> no luck )=
[12:30] <sam_> Hehe
[12:30] <vbgunz> kemik: user friendly was the discussion in that LNW article I linked to earlier... I believe it too
[12:30] <sam_> "i dunno what is Shockwave"
[12:30] <r0d> ohphracku,  sounds more like a girlfriend to me
[12:30] <brownie17> kemik: tsk tsk, the ubuntu support channel does not support illegal warez!! :P. i know coz i got in trouble for it :P jhahahahahhaa
[12:31] <ReZuth> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2474 <- Anybody have an idea how to fix that
[12:31] <ohphracku> i dont like the idea oh someone or somthing replacing my brain
[12:31] <Inf3ctedfx> ok ppl, I'm try to mount my NTFS on ubuntu, someone here gave me a script to run, but to be honest, I don't know how to run that script  can anyone tell me?
[12:31] <bimberi> ubotu shockwave is <reply> Unfortunately there is no shockwave available for Linux (unless you use wine).  Please lobby Macromedia!
[12:31] <ubotu> bimberi: okay
[12:31] <kemik> brownie17:  i know, not saying you should warez it, just saying it's either expensive or illegal ;)
[12:31] <eyequeue> userfriedly is also a geek-oriented comic strip online, heh
[12:31] <vbgunz> all I know about shockwave and why I can't get my wifey to switch over is no support for shockwave...
[12:31] <brownie17> kemik: yepp
[12:31] <kemik> Inf3ctedfx:  "sudo bash winmac_fstab"
[12:32] <Inf3ctedfx> ok
[12:32] <eyequeue> Inf3ctedfx:  is the script is named, foo.sh, you might run it with "sh foo.sh"
[12:32] <r0d> ohphracku,  well it takes a brain to dodge spyware and virus on windows:D
[12:32] <ohphracku> a big throbbing one
[12:32] <sam_> So why havn't Macromedia released a Shockwave for Linux?
[12:32] <nc> how to install a webcam plz? I cant find a linux driver on the manufacturers website. help plz....
[12:33] <eyequeue> sam_:  because they have not received enough complaints from linux users?
[12:33] <bimberi> sam_: no commercial reason to do so i guess
[12:33] <vbgunz> Inf3ctedfx: sudo mkdir /media/windows
[12:33] <vbgunz> Inf3ctedfx: sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222
[12:33] <vbgunz> replace hda1 with your Windows partition...
[12:33] <brownie17> kemik, why do you sometimes have to type bash before a command?
[12:33] <sam_> Hmm. S'pose, OK, all complaing. :D
[12:33] <Inf3ctedfx> vbgunz: I already create a /media/slave  do u think is going to affect?
[12:33] <eyequeue> sam_:  why does a company do anything?  probably they don't think it's a public relations nightmare to NOT do it, heh
[12:34] <kemik> brownie17:  well it depends.. on a +x bashscript you can typ ./foo.sh
[12:34] <vbgunz> oh... then replace /media/windows with /media/slave
[12:34] <vbgunz> that should work
[12:34] <brownie17> kemik, ok
[12:34] <eyequeue> sam_:  think "firm, but polite" heh
[12:34] <bigfoot1> using x-chat: is there a way to pause transcribing?
[12:34] <Inf3ctedfx> vbgunz: where should I replace that? on the script?
[12:34] <sam_> eyequeue: I can't do polite. :(
[12:34] <diners> hello
[12:35] <irvin> how would i know if the kernel i have has support for my webcam
[12:35] <vbgunz> I do that from command line
[12:35] <nc> have you guyz use a webcam in ubuntu?
[12:35] <diners> hello
[12:35] <irvin> i'm reading this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Spca5xx
[12:35] <vbgunz> Inf3ctedfx: just start up the terminal and put that in...
[12:35] <Inf3ctedfx> how do u do that from command line? vbgunz ?
[12:35] <frank_b> anyone else here has had an update problem today???
[12:35] <vbgunz> that will only give you read only access
[12:36] <vbgunz> are you on Breezy or Hoary?
[12:36] <sam_> Hmmm i updated about 130mb last night.. But this is an old disk :D
[12:36] <eyequeue> frank_:  someone mentioned it
[12:36] <vbgunz> applications > system tools > terminal
[12:36] <kemik> Inf3ctedfx:  i think you should use the script.... remove your fstab entry, do "sudo umount /dev/hdb1" and execute the script
[12:36] <eyequeue> frank_:  apparently some mirror needs to be updated, but archive.ubuntu.com already has the needed files
[12:36] <vbgunz> or  applications > accessories > terminal
[12:37] <frank_b> I updated my computer, because the symbol apeared on the notify zone, now I can't use mozilla...
[12:37] <kemik> Inf3ctedfx:  it's really the simplest solution in most cases
[12:37] <daejavu> does anyone has  J2RE installed ??
[12:37] <nc> or any site woth webcam howto in ubuntu?
[12:37] <vbgunz> once the terminal is open start off and edit the commands I gave you where appropiate
[12:38] <manuk> I've a problem with a mouse. Anyone can help me please?
[12:38] <picole> 
[12:38] <sam_> I can't do anything on Ubuntu.. Everytime i click Applications im wierdly drawn to the games section :D
[12:38] <maradong> manuk: what is your problem?
[12:38] <bimberi> frank_b: I've observed people with that issue being pointed to http://cyphase.homelinux.com/blog/
[12:39] <bimberi> sam_: lol
[12:39] <ohphracku> help = yes manuk
[12:39] <vbgunz> replace hda1 with Windows partition "which could most likely be hda1 so leave as is..." and edit the /media/windows and replace with /media/slave
[12:39] <vbgunz> Inf3ctedfx: is the file system NTFS or something else?
[12:39] <vbgunz> I assumed you had NTFS
[12:39] <frank_b> thanks bimberi
[12:39] <bimberi> frank_b: yw :)
[12:39] <nc> any site for webcam support for ubuntu?
[12:39] <bimberi> i hope it works (i've not done it)
[12:39] <ompaul> !tell nc about webcam
[12:40] <manuk> I'VE A LAPTOP
[12:40] <manuk> with
[12:40] <manuk> a touchpad and a simple Logitech mouse
[12:40] <ompaul> nc that message from ubotu might help
[12:40] <kemik> vbgunz:  he's been down that road already... try the script instead
[12:40] <manuk> ps2 , not optical, not cordless
[12:40] <ompaul> manuk, please put it all on one line so that            it         is             easy           to follow
[12:40] <manuk> ok
[12:41] <bimberi> ompaul: haha
[12:41] <vbgunz> oh
[12:41] <linner> oh crap......................................... this last install..... my 3rd for the night........... has crapped out AGAIN~
[12:41] <gnubie> i just replaced a network card. ubuntu can't find it. "eth0: error fetching interface information. device not found"
[12:41] <Bateau_> hey! i just run a dist-upgrade. and  i got this error. and now Firefox wont start :(
[12:41] <gnubie> it's a server install.
[12:41] <vbgunz> oh no
[12:41] <vbgunz> firefox problem?
[12:42] <manuk> I've a laptop with a touchpad and connected to the laptop there is a mouse Logitech, ps2, not optical, not cordless. The problem is that the touchpad works and the mouse no.
[12:42] <vbgunz> Bateau_: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=367285#post367285
[12:42] <eyequeue> gnubie:  two thoughts
[12:42] <frank_b> bimberi, by the way... what's the best alternative to mozilla that exists in the repositories... (sot that I can resolve my mozilla problem)?
[12:42] <shaoqi> hi. is it possible to edit a file on windows hdd from ubuntu environment?
[12:42] <Bateau_> thanks vbgunz
[12:42] <eyequeue> gnubie:  first, do we know the hardware is good?
[12:42] <vbgunz> ;)
[12:42] <cyphase> Bateau_, I wrote a post on that problem : http://cyphase.homelinux.com/blog
[12:42] <gnubie> yes, it's bnew.
[12:42] <gnubie> i think it is.
[12:42] <Bateau_> vbgunz:  but as i said. firefox DONT work. and i dont have any other browsers
[12:42] <cyphase> rank_b, probably epiphany
[12:42] <vbgunz> ok
[12:42] <eyequeue> gnubie:  second, is the right kernel module being loaded
[12:42] <vbgunz> one sec
[12:43] <cyphase> that's what i use when i need to anyway
[12:43] <gnubie> how do i check for the module.
[12:43] <frank_b> thanks cyphase
[12:43] <joachim_> hi :)
[12:43] <cyphase> np
[12:43] <shaoqi> hi. is it possible to edit a file on windows hdd from ubuntu environment?
[12:43] <joachim_> I installed apache. should I remove it before installing apache2?
[12:43] <Seveas> shaoqi, only if it's fat32
[12:43] <Seveas> joachim_, yes
[12:43] <gnubie> eyequeue, it's a totallly different card from the card it replaced.
[12:43] <kemik> frank_b:  disable backports/extras , aptupdate, purge your aptcache mozilla* and reinstall mozilla-firefox
[12:43] <shaoqi> Seveas, if it's ntfs then it's not possible?
[12:43] <cyphase> joachim_, it should do it automatically
[12:43] <Seveas> shaoqi, correct
[12:43] <bimberi> frank_b: i'm not sure (but it looks like someone else was more sure :) )
[12:43] <Seveas> cyphase, no
[12:44] <frank_b> yes, thanks anyway bimberi
[12:44] <Seveas> apache and apach2 can happily live together so they don't conflict
[12:44] <Seveas> but it's pretty useless...
[12:44] <benuk> hey, i installed ubuntu with noapic, the amd64 copy doesnt detect my harddrive,  the i386 installs fine,  but hangs on the splash gnome screen
[12:44] <joachim_> cyphase, I just marked apache2 in synaptic & it didn't give a conflict
[12:44] <benuk> I posted a copy on the forum on my problem
[12:44] <vbgunz> Bateau_: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2487
[12:44] <vbgunz> oh man my bad
[12:44] <sam_> Anyone recommend any games from Synaptic to download? :D
[12:44] <eyequeue> gnubie:  battery dying here, goota run sorry, someone can be specific but google for the model number and linux, and yes, i'll bet it's a driver issue, good luck
[12:44] <vbgunz> im sorry
[12:44] <vbgunz> one sec
[12:44] <Bateau_> lol :D
[12:44] <vbgunz>  $cd/var/cache/apt/archives
[12:44] <vbgunz> $sudodpkg-i--force-overwritemozilla-firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb
[12:44] <vbgunz> $sudodpkg-i--force-overwritemozilla-firefox-gnome-support_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb
[12:44] <vbgunz> $sudoapt-getremove--purgefirefoxfirefox-gnome-support
[12:44] <gnubie> alright, thanks
[12:44] <shaoqi> Seveas, i try to delete a folder on my desktop, but it says "i do not have permission to change it". how can i solve this?
[12:45] <kemik> frank_b:  your aptcache is in /var/cache/apt ... remove the mozilla.debs so you download the new good ones
[12:45] <Seveas> shaoqi, don;t run things as root :)
[12:45] <frank_b> kemik, thanks... but I think I'll check that website first... I'm a newbie and I don't quite understand what you are saying..
[12:45] <vbgunz> Bateau_: Can't guarentee anything... just saw people were having problems and this was a recommended fix that worked for most people
[12:45] <Seveas> shaoqi, sudo chown -R $user:$user ~/Desktop
[12:45] <wezzer> !breezy
[12:45] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[12:45] <kemik> *gone*
[12:45] <wezzer> is breezy published yet?
[12:45] <Seveas> no
[12:45] <Bateau_> mkay. thanks vbgunz :)
[12:45] <Seveas> release date: oct 13
[12:45] <vbgunz> Bateau_: Hope it works!
[12:46] <linner> Seveas, tritium stayed up with me as long as he could... and I'm on the third install of the night.... first was a kernel issue, the second was a CD problem... and now I'm having X Server problems.... I have an ATI 200M.... can you please help me fix it so I don't have to go back to SuSE?
[12:46] <Seveas> in a few days Colony 5 will arive
[12:46] <Bateau_> yeah me to :D
[12:46] <shaoqi> Seveas, it's not possible to delete through gui?
[12:46] <vbgunz> tell me if it does please, thanks!
[12:46] <Seveas> linner, hoary or breezy?
[12:46] <linner> breezy
[12:46] <Seveas> shaoqi, yes, after that command...
[12:46] <Seveas> linner, currently X is busted on breezy
[12:46] <linner> now someone tells me
[12:46] <vbgunz> hello Seveas
[12:47] <sam_> Any good platform games avaliable to download with Synaptic?
[12:47] <linner> Seveas, what's the problem?  tritium told me to download it like 2 hours ago...
[12:47] <Seveas> linner, x-common is conflicting with xfonts-base, it's a packaging error
[12:47] <linner> Seveas, ok............. i'll just reinstall suse again then
[12:47] <wezzer> what do you think, is it "good idea" to upgrade to breezy now?
[12:47] <brownie17> sam_, synaptic has zsnes, a snes emulator
[12:47] <linner> :(
[12:48] <sam_> ... It does?! Sweeeet! Cheers.
[12:48] <frank_b> kemik, I think I understand what you're saying now... I'll try that if the website doesn't give an answer, thanks
[12:48] <brownie17> wezzer, no, just wait because it isn't long now
[12:48] <Seveas> linner, or try hoary, breezy is in development and not guaranteed to be stable
[12:48] <linner> Seveas, should i no try to install until the official release?
[12:48] <vbgunz> I've been on Breezy for a bit now and no problems "I hope"
[12:48] <joachim_> how do I restart apache?
[12:48] <Seveas> linner, exactly
[12:48] <wezzer> brownie17: okay
[12:48] <linner> Seveas, i get the same problem
[12:48] <linner> Seveas, this is my 6th install
[12:48] <shaoqi> Seveas, what does the command "chown" do?
[12:48] <vbgunz> apache -k restart
[12:48] <brownie17> where can i see some screenshots of Kubuntu in use??? anyone???
[12:48] <Seveas> shaoqi, it makes you owner of these fils
[12:48] <Dekko> chown - Change owner
[12:48] <[A] ndy80> hi
[12:49] <shaoqi> Seveas, so whenever i encounter any permssion access problem using gui, I can use that command to solve?
[12:49] <vbgunz> I haven't played with Apache on Linux but on Windows to restart it is "Apache -k restart"
[12:49] <linner> Seveas, ok...........i'll just be patient then................ very sad.....................
[12:49] <linner> ohphracku, thank you :)
[12:49] <irvin> whereis apachectl
[12:49] <[A] ndy80> I've problems with this package when I do apt-get upgrade/dist-upgrade: x-common_1.08_all.deb, is it a known bug?
[12:49] <ohphracku> yeah no prob
[12:49] <irvin> vbgunz, apachectl
[12:50] <vbgunz> irvin: what is that?
[12:50] <vbgunz> I don't use apache on Ubuntu yet...
[12:50] <irvin> vbgunz, start, stop, restart apache on linux
[12:50] <brownie17> does anyone know where i can see some screenshots of KDE?
[12:50] <linner> brownie17, no........ i don't.........wish I could help... :(
[12:50] <vbgunz> google > KDE screenshots
[12:51] <vbgunz> thanks irvin!
[12:51] <sam_> brownie17: Can't see it in Games, what section is it under?
[12:51] <linner> brownie17, http://www.ppcnerds.org/modules.php?set_albumName=album14&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php
[12:51] <linner> try that
[12:52] <Bateau_> vbgunz: it kinda worked. but now i get this weird error in firefox. and i cant do anything :/
[12:52] <manuk> Anyone can help me with a mouse problem, please?
[12:52] <irvin> i need to recompile my kernel but i can't get the source using apt-get source linux-source-2.6.12.9
[12:53] <linner> brownie17, is that what you were looking for?
[12:53] <sam_> Will the KDE games in synaptic work in Gnome? I assume they will.
[12:53] <vbgunz> Bateau_: can you see this page http://cyphase.homelinux.com/blog/ ?
[12:53] <gnubie> help please. how do i tell linux to redect a new network card replacement i made?
[12:53] <Bateau_> no :(
[12:53] <vbgunz> copy the page text to your drive... damn...
[12:53] <irvin> is linux-source-2.6.12-9 same as linux-source-2.6.12 ?
[12:53] <vbgunz> what it is is the problem relates to the backports
[12:54] <vbgunz> you probably have them open?
[12:54] <brownie17> sam_ sorry, fin what? i forgot what i told you
[12:54] <brownie17> linner, legend
[12:54] <vbgunz> I'll paste it to you Bateau_
[12:54] <sam_> brownie17: zsnes
[12:54] <cyphase> in #flood
[12:55] <Bateau_> the error says: XML Parins Error: xml processing instruction not at start of ecternal entity Location: chrome://browser/content/browser.xul LIne Number1, Column 1: <command id="cmd_bm_newfolder"  oncommand="goDoCommand('cmd_bm_newfolde
[12:55] <cyphase> just the important part
[12:55] <brownie17> sam_oh you go into syanptic, click search and type zsnes.
[12:55] <linner> brownie17, what?
[12:55] <joachim_> apachectl gives bash: apachectl: command not found
[12:55] <brownie17> linner, you are a legend for gettign me that link
[12:55] <linner> brownie17, right on
[12:55] <linner> :)
[12:55] <cyphase> or..
[12:55] <linner> brownie17, I'm old dude... don't forget that :)
[12:55] <Marxist> i need a good kernel configuration guide but can't seem to find one on google for this distribution. Does anyone know where I might be able to find such a detailed guide.
[12:56] <Marxist> so
[12:56] <sam_> brownie17: I have, can't find anything, are you on Breezy or Hoary? Because we could have different repositorys.
[12:56] <brownie17> linner, hahah, why did you say that!?
[12:56] <vbgunz> Bateau_: not sure what the error is...
[12:56] <linner> cause i didn't know what the h3ll you meant :)
[12:56] <brownie17> sam_ i am on hoary with multiverse universe and backports enabled
[12:56] <Marxist> sorry, so far, i've tried to install my own kernel and it works, compile and everything but the result is always a kernel panic
[12:57] <vbgunz> Bateau_: did you get the private message I sent you?
[12:57] <Bateau_> yeah
[12:57] <Bateau_> not all of it thou :P
[12:57] <vbgunz> ?
[12:57] <vbgunz> ok
[12:57] <gerkin> hi
[12:57] <Bateau_> but this other dud sent to me as well :)
[12:57] <brownie17> linner, why did you remind me of you age?
[12:57] <linner> brownie17, never mind :)
[12:57] <vbgunz> Bateau_: to me it looks like it all went through
[12:57] <linner> night ya'll
[12:57] <brownie17> linner, okie, bye
[12:58] <sam_> brownie17: Aha.. Im new and have no idea what that means :D
[12:58] <vbgunz> good night linner1
[12:58] <vbgunz> holy cow... time has flown and I have played myself so good
[12:58] <brownie17> sam_, sorry, pm?
[12:58] <vbgunz> I need sleep now
[12:58] <vbgunz> damn...
[12:58] <brownie17> sam_ (private message) i'll explain to you
[12:59] <rhed> hi peps
[01:00] <vbgunz> good night or day all, I need a few minutes sleep before I get busy for the day!
[01:00] <vbgunz> have fun and major thanks everyone!
[01:00] <bimberi> sleep well :)
[01:00] <WebLOCH> mornin all
[01:01] <root> hi.
[01:02] <WebLOCH> Ive got the flava
[01:02] <WebLOCH> And Ive got the rememdy
[01:05] <sktrdie> when is VLC going to be working in Breezy
[01:06] <sktrdie> ?
[01:06] <WebLOCH> When it says so.
[01:06] <WebLOCH> !tell WebLOCH about msg
[01:07] <WebLOCH> !tell WebLOCH about alsa-source
[01:07] <brownie17> can someone who knows about KDE tell me if i is easy to install kde and gnome? and how to switch between the two? is it possible to use the "session menu" (at login screen) to choose whether to use kde or gnome?
[01:08] <WebLOCH> ahh damnit
[01:08] <WebLOCH> time for a fresh, fresh install
[01:10] <freebase`> anyone know how to get raid 0 working? i have abit ic7 max3 mobo and ntfs filesystem
[01:10] <bimberi> brownie17: To get KDE you can install the kubuntu-desktop package.  Then yes, just choose KDE from the sessions menu
[01:10] <WebLOCH> hmm anyone here familiar wit the alsa source?
[01:10] <brownie17> bimberi: so it won't remove Gnome?
[01:10] <brownie17> bimberi: how do i choose which one is the default?
[01:10] <bimberi> brownie17: nope :)
[01:11] <chavo> brownie17, it will remember the last thing you logged into
[01:11] <bimberi> brownie17: each time you log in using a different session you'll be asked if you want to change the default (in GDM anyway)
[01:11] <sktrdie> can  I use debian repository of apt-get in ubuntu?
[01:12] <brownie17> bimberi, in synaptic there is a package caled KDE and a package called kubuntu-desktop, which one?
[01:12] <bimberi> sktrdie: no
[01:12] <bimberi> brownie17: kubuntu-desktop
[01:12] <bimberi> brownie17: it will install kde and a suite of kde apps
[01:12] <sinned> bimberi, where would I put an .sh script that I could run from console by just typing in name.sh
[01:13] <brownie17> bimberi, how big is it? synaptic says it might take 1hour to download
[01:13] <sktrdie> bimberi: what do I do if I want to get VLC from another repository, because the one in breezy seems broken
[01:13] <bimberi> sinned: /usr/local/bin
[01:13] <sktrdie> I  always get the error of unmet depndencies
[01:13] <dade`> i installed hfsutils
[01:13] <bimberi> brownie17: very large
[01:13] <dade`> but i don't have
[01:13] <dade`> fsck.hfs
[01:13] <dade`> why ?
[01:13] <WebLOCH> does dpkg keep log files anywhere?
[01:13] <sinned> Thanks bimberi
[01:13] <brownie17> bimberi, thanks
[01:13] <gerkin> can anyone tell me if the "Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy Badger) Colony CD 5" are final versions of "Breezy" or are they previews
[01:14] <Whistler> i know this is the wrong place to ask but do anyone have motorola c650?
[01:14] <bimberi> sktrdie: hm. I wouldn't install it from debian tho
[01:14] <bimberi> yw sinned & brownie17
[01:14] <sktrdie> bimberi: what then
[01:15] <freebase`> anyone know how to get raid 0 working? i have abit ic7 max3 mobo and ntfs filesystem
[01:15] <sam_> I miss my music, damn ubuntus lack of MP3 support :(
[01:15] <WebLOCH> sam_,  whats up ?
[01:15] <sam_> WebLOCH, Ubuntu doesn't play MP3s.
[01:15] <WebLOCH> Hoary or breezy?
[01:16] <sam_> Hoary.
[01:16] <Tomcat_> Ubuntu on a default install doesn't play MP3s.
[01:16] <WebLOCH> sam_, you can install the restricted formats
[01:16] <gerkin> sam...I'm playing mp3s?
[01:16] <Tomcat_> But it's easily possible to get it.
[01:16] <sktrdie> bimberi: thinking abt what..
[01:16] <Echelon-H> i have no problem at all playing mp3s
[01:16] <bimberi> sktrdie: an answer to 'what then'
[01:16] <sam_> Oooo how?!
[01:16] <WebLOCH> sam_, you know the ubuntu homepage?
[01:16] <Tomcat_> Just install gstreamer0.8-mad package and all regular gnome apps have MP3 support-
[01:16] <sam_> Yeah
[01:17] <sam_> Cool
[01:17] <Tomcat_> sam_: You  need the multiverse repository enabled though.
[01:17] <WebLOCH> sam_, go there and goto the "wiki" tab, scroll down and you will see "User Documentation"
[01:17] <sinned> bimberi, I tried install kubuntu-desktop and synaptic gave me this as an error "kubuntu-desktop:
[01:17] <sinned>  Depends: amarok but it is not going to be installed"
[01:17] <WebLOCH> sam_, it has lots of useful info
[01:17] <sktrdie> bimberi: VLC is really hard to install from source, and I don't think Im enough skilled for that...
[01:17] <Tomcat_> sam_: But, do what WebLOCH says. :)
[01:17] <sktrdie> bimberi: what do you sugest>
[01:17] <sam_> OK..
[01:17] <sam_> !Tell sam_ about MP3
[01:17] <gerkin> sam ... what is your hardware...x86 or x86_64?
[01:18] <bimberi> sktrdie: rather than adding the debian repository, download the debfile and install it using "sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb"
[01:18] <sam_> x86.
[01:18] <gerkin> I need to check, give me a mo...
[01:18] <sktrdie> bimberi: yea, but I will have to download also the depndencies .debs right?
[01:18] <sktrdie> bimberi: can you guide me in this process
[01:19] <sam_> I tried adding that repository before and it still came up "Cannot find file" when i tried apt-geting them.
[01:19] <sktrdie> bimberi: i just really need to understand the first time, then it's fine
[01:19] <bimberi> sktrdie: possibly, but hopefully not, it's the dependencies that are the worry
[01:19] <sktrdie> bimberi: can you guide me?
[01:20] <bimberi> sktrdie: sure, pm ok?
[01:21] <larsrohdin> Hi, I get an error while trying to upgrade firefox. Now I cant use it at all. may I paste the error, its only a few rows
[01:21] <bimberi> sktrdie: er, private message ok?
[01:21] <larsrohdin> It says /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb: is trying to overwrite "/var/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions.d/00classic" which is also in the package firefox
[01:22] <BlankerHans> moin
[01:22] <any> hi
[01:23] <bimberi> larsrohdin: I've observed people with that issue being pointed to http://cyphase.homelinux.com/blog/
[01:23] <BlankerHans> wieso luft mei DVD player nicht?
[01:23] <WebLOCH> Anyone on here have ANY experience with Alsa?
[01:24] <deFrysk> !de
[01:24] <ubotu> rumour has it, de is #ubuntu-de bitte.
[01:24] <larsrohdin> bimberi, ok but I cant view that without a webbrowser...
[01:24] <WebLOCH> larsrohdin,  you could always "wget" it then open it in an text editor0z!
[01:24] <twoSharp> I have 2 networkcards, and I want all applications to use eth1 and not eth0, how can i do this? is it possible to set a default ethernetcard?
[01:24] <bimberi> larsrohdin: instal epiphany
[01:24] <cyphase> yea
[01:25] <[LethAL] > twoSharp, In system, administration, networking...
[01:25] <Dekko> Can someone tell me why Adobe Helvetica font does not appear in Gnome 2.10 font selection dialog?
[01:25] <cyphase> or i can paste you the imprtant bit
[01:25] <twoSharp> [LethAL]  network-admin? I'm in XFCE bnow, gnome crashed...
[01:25] <bimberi> cyphase: is your irc client going "bing" a lot today? :)
[01:25] <gerkin> sam ....check out the section "Q: How to install Multimedia Codecs?" in the "Unofficial Ubuntu 5.04 Starter Guide" at http://www.ubuntuguide.org/
[01:26] <benkong2> !ubotu checkinstall
[01:26] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, checkinstall is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[01:26] <[LethAL] > twoSharp, I think so
[01:26] <gerkin> can anyone tell me if the "Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy Badger) Colony CD 5" are final versions of "Breezy" or are they previews?
[01:26] <[LethAL] > twoSharp, you can probably do it with the route as well
[01:26] <brownie17> is there a drag and drop way to create an audio cd from a heap of mp3's?
[01:26] <[LethAL] > gerkin, Previews
[01:26] <cyphase> bimberi, i don't have a sound for it, but the channel button keeps turning blue :)
[01:26] <gerkin> ...ta
[01:26] <bimberi> cyphase: :)
[01:26] <deFrysk> gerkin, stable version is out on oct 13
[01:27] <twoSharp> [LethAL] , Aahgh :) thanks alot, i found it.. i have seen it before, but didnt see it
[01:27] <brownie17> is there a drag and drop way to create an audio cd from a heap of mp3's?
[01:27] <[LethAL] > twoSharp :)
[01:27] <gerkin> sweet.........looking forward to it....thanks deFrysk
[01:27] <eazel7> hi ubuntu people
[01:27] <deFrysk> brownie17, try serpentine
[01:27] <gerkin> hi eazel7
[01:28] <Dekko> How can one use Adobe Helvetica fonts with Gnome 2.10?
[01:28] <eazel7> somebody knows how to fix the plugin's sound in firefox? I'm using esound as sound daemon, but obviously "auto" doesn't works in /etc/mozilla-firefox/mozilla-firefoxrc
[01:28] <[LethAL] > Does anyone know why X won't start? It says it received a signal 11
[01:28] <[LethAL] > Dekko, By installing them?
[01:28] <eazel7> hi gerkin
[01:28] <locomorto> Hey, is there anyway to get a transfer speed information in a standered nautilus dialog?
[01:29] <sam_> Woohoo, now have MP3 support, cheers :D
[01:29] <locomorto> I'm also in breezy, and thank you for any help
[01:29] <Valo> is there any reason why after updating to kernel version 2.6.12-9 my boot and shutdown process is just a black screen?
[01:29] <[LethAL] > !tell Dekko about fonts
[01:29] <Dekko> [LethAL] , I have them installed but they just do not show up in font selection tool :/
[01:29] <[LethAL] > Valo, It's probably on the wrong terminal
[01:29] <eazel7> Valo, perhaps a problem with the bootsplash
[01:29] <[LethAL] > vterminal*
[01:29] <Valo> ive switched between them
[01:30] <Valo> could be bootsplash im on a laptop
[01:30] <WebLOCH> Anyone fancy giving me a hand?
[01:30] <eazel7> Valo, try removing the splash/framebuffer whatever be in the boot parameters, perhaps it's just that
[01:30] <Valo> ok
[01:30] <Valo> ill try it
[01:30] <giard> anyone else having problems with the x-common conflict in breezy?
[01:30] <[LethAL] > eazel7, that won't help shutdown
[01:30] <Dekko> Opera 8.5 uses non antialaiased Adobe Helvetica but I also want them in Gnome & Firefox.
[01:30] <Valo> giard, yes
[01:31] <dylan_> is it true that X can actually destroy your hardware?
[01:31] <WebLOCH> dylan_, no it is a myth
[01:31] <eazel7> [LethAL] , what you mean?
[01:31] <WebLOCH> dylan_, software can very very rarely damage hardware
[01:31] <[LethAL] > eazel7, USplash on shutdown? I haven't seen it
[01:31] <WebLOCH> dylan_, a graphical interface is probably unliklely
[01:31] <locomorto> dylan_: ie only when your WebLOCH (j/k)
[01:31] <eazel7> [LethAL] , did he mentioned shutdown?
[01:31] <WebLOCH> Aeeeeiiiieie!
[01:31] <[LethAL] > eazel7 yes
[01:31] <WebLOCH> lol
[01:31] <WebLOCH> Its true :9
[01:32] <eazel7> [LethAL] , he also mentioned boot
[01:32] <dylan_> WebLOCH, one more question:  i just installed ubuntu and set /dev/hda2 as ReiserFS.....when i boot the OS complains aobut not being able to find an ext3 filesystem....why?  can i change it back to ext3?
[01:32] <[LethAL] > eazel7 I know ;)
[01:32] <locomorto> dylan_: mine does that too
[01:32] <locomorto> dylan_: I just ignore the message
[01:32] <dylan_> locomorto, is ReiserFS any better than ext3?
[01:32] <WebLOCH> dylan_, I assume it expects ext3 and that is why, you probably cant run ReiserFS on root
[01:32] <locomorto> dylan_: Actually come to think of, i think breezy doesn't do that
[01:32] <locomorto> dylan_: Yes and no
[01:33] <WebLOCH> dylan_, I assume you can change it back, but dunno about how
[01:33] <dylan_> locomorto, why yes...why no?
[01:33] <locomorto> dylan_: Its better in some areas, worse in others
[01:33] <[LethAL] > Any ideas on my X problem anybody? (Fatal: received signal 11)
[01:33] <eazel7> [LethAL] , perhaps X drivers works fine so while X is running it's ok, but in boot/shutdown when he is not in X it's framebuffer driver doesn't works, things like that happend here, e.g. with the i810
[01:33] <brownie17> WebLOCH, do file systems really make any difference at all to the user-end performance!?
[01:33] <dylan_> locomorto, i just want a decent filesystem that doesn't fragment
[01:33] <locomorto> dylan_: But overall, I would prefer it over ext3
[01:33] <[LethAL] > eazel7 Good point
[01:33] <sam_> Waaaiit.. Rhythmbox now opens MP3s but gives me an error when i try to play them.
[01:33] <locomorto> dylan_: neither of them do
[01:33] <WebLOCH> brownie17, it depends on the FS and the user, in some cases it definately will
[01:34] <WebLOCH> sam_, rhythmbox is not gnome based?
[01:34] <dylan_> locomorto, a friend of mine claims that all FSes fragment.  why and how do they not?
[01:34] <sam_> WebLOCH: No idea, it came with Gnome and it's the only music player i have sooo :D
[01:34] <locomorto> dylan_: Not to the point that a windows one does
[01:34] <deFrysk> sam_, try gst-register-0.8
[01:34] <eazel7> which are valid values for FIREFOX_DSP in /etc/mozilla-firefox/mozilla-firefoxrc?
[01:35] <Dekko> Beep Media Player is also good.
[01:35] <WebLOCH> dylan_, technically they will do, its based on the writing and removing of files as you probably know, and how any available space is used.  Someone said ext3 doesnt, I dont know why it wouldnt...
[01:35] <dylan_> locomorto, oh yeah i know that Windows FSes do
[01:35] <locomorto> dylan_: typically around 2-3% It only get higeher then that when the partition is almost/is full
[01:35] <WebLOCH> sam_, I like xmms,  "sudo apt-get install xmms"
[01:35] <dylan_> locomorto, thanks a lot! ;)
[01:35] <locomorto> dylan_: np
[01:35] <sam_> WebLOCH, used to use that on SuSE :D May download, cheers.
[01:36] <deFrysk> sam_, try gst-register-0.8
[01:37] <eazel7> dylan_, guh-nome
[01:37] <deFrysk> dylan_, have fum figuring it out ;p
[01:37] <Tomcat_> Heh. :P
[01:37] <dylan_> lol
[01:37] <Valo> that fixed it thanks eazel7
[01:37] <[LethAL] > Yeah, I know it was guh-nome too
[01:37] <Tomcat_> Here in Germany everybody says "guh-nome", but then we say everything different anyway.
[01:37] <[LethAL] > thought*
[01:37] <eazel7> Valo, no problem
[01:39] <brownie17> sam_, i have tried all the popular music players, i honestly reckno rhythmbox is the best. the others are completely different though
[01:39] <WebLOCH> I think i might go insane
[01:39] <deFrysk> sam_, the command gst-register-0.8 will register your plugin
[01:39] <WebLOCH> sam_, if you install xmms, install gxmms aswell its the gnome panel-let for controlling it
[01:40] <brownie17> i need my darn synaptic KDE download to finish so i can download k3b so i can make a cd for the long car trip tomorrow DAMNIT!!!!
[01:40] <deFrysk> sam_, so just do that and try rhythmbox again
[01:40] <WebLOCH> Anyone here got any idea about how to use alsa?
[01:40] <Valo> beep-media-player is alot better than xmms
[01:40] <bigfoot1> evi wanna keep xchat running, but i don't want to keep the text logging on for now. Is there an easy way to pause text logging?
[01:40] <bigfoot1> sorry. I wanna keep...
[01:41] <sam_> None of those work, XMMS wont download in synaptic or apt-get for some reason and i used the gst-register-0.8 command but i still get "Can not open file for writing" "Could not pause playback" errors
[01:42] <crimsun> WebLOCH: for what?
[01:42] <deFrysk> sam_, that you should try another player like beep-media-player
[01:42] <crimsun> sam_: apt-cache policy xmms
[01:42] <WebLOCH> crimsun thank god you are here
[01:42] <WebLOCH> im trying to recompile alsa-source again
[01:42] <WebLOCH> I succeeded under 686 kernel
[01:42] <WebLOCH> but ive just found out that 686-smp supports my dual core
[01:43] <WebLOCH> so im trying again :P
[01:43] <WebLOCH> and its failing
[01:43] <sam_> I have been havn't trouble with my internet connection on Ubuntu.. Maybe that's why i can't download.
[01:43] <crimsun> do you have linux-headers-$(uname -r) installed, presuming you're currently running -686-smp?
[01:43] <sam_> It just pauses at:
[01:43] <sam_> 0% [Connecting to gb.archive.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0)] 
[01:43] <WebLOCH> yup and yup
[01:43] <ubuntu> hi sam
[01:43] <bimberi> brownie17: you can just install k3b itself, it will bring in enough of the KDE libraries to run it from Gnome (or whatever)
[01:43] <crimsun> WebLOCH: are you using Breezy or Hoary?
[01:43] <WebLOCH> its a confusing error... i will paste
[01:43] <Valo> downs like a dns issue sam_
[01:43] <WebLOCH> crimsun, hoary
[01:44] <Valo> sounds like*
[01:44] <eazel7> here aptitude, even apt-get, pauses in Waiting for headers
[01:44] <WebLOCH> It gets m ost of the way through the process but stops at...
[01:44] <crimsun> WebLOCH: use paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:44] <WebLOCH> dpkg-deb: package name has characters that aren't lowercase alphanums or `-+.'
[01:44] <WebLOCH> dh_builddeb: command returned error code 512
[01:44] <WebLOCH> make: *** [binary-modules]  Error 1
[01:44] <WebLOCH> ahh sorry
[01:44] <sam_> Yeah, i usually fix it by putting a few ipv6 off commands in modprobe, but Ubuntu doesn't have modprobe. :(
[01:45] <crimsun> WebLOCH: you need to remove /usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/ first, or at least run ''sudo debuild clean'' in that dir
[01:45] <WebLOCH> hmm
[01:45] <[LethAL] > Erg... joinspam again
[01:45] <WebLOCH> Says "debuild command not found"
[01:46] <crimsun> WebLOCH: do you have devscripts installed?
[01:46] <WebLOCH> I removed the dir instead
[01:46] <WebLOCH> No idea whats installed
[01:46] <sam_> It's because my Dlink DSL-G604T doesn't support ipv6.
[01:46] <dylan_> why use Linux over Windows?
[01:46] <WebLOCH> it would seem that loading a new kernel does not always port everything as well as it should
[01:46] <WebLOCH> crimsun, Ive removed the directory, any other advice?
[01:47] <Gizmosis> linux is stable windows is unstable
[01:47] <gnubie> can anyone help?
[01:47] <crimsun> WebLOCH: you compiled alsa-source by hand. There's no reason it would be ported over to a new kernel.
[01:47] <gnubie> i cant detect my new network card.
[01:47] <dylan_> Gizmosis, will Linux always be virus/spyware free lke it is?
[01:47] <gerkin> ...bye
[01:47] <WebLOCH> Yeah I didnt mean that
[01:47] <Gizmosis> wht network card is it gnubie
[01:47] <[LethAL] > Gizmosis, no, We all know why Linux crashes, but windows crashes are random and unfixable
[01:47] <gnubie> it's a dlink dfe528tx
[01:47] <sam_> !Tell sam_ about ipv6
[01:48] <Gizmosis> thas dylan_  and [LethAL] 
[01:48] <sam_> ... Dumb bot.
[01:48] <gnubie> actually, its a working ubuntu installation. i just need to replace the card
[01:48] <Gizmosis> thas - thn
[01:48] <Gizmosis> x
[01:48] <crimsun> WebLOCH: now you have to untar the source and rerun debuild binary_modules ....
[01:48] <gnubie> and let ubuntu use it
[01:48] <dylan_> Gizmosis, what is thas?
[01:48] <crimsun> WebLOCH: rather, debian/rules binary_modules ....
[01:48] <Gizmosis> thanx..sorry
[01:48] <gnubie> lspci shows i got two cards
[01:49] <Gizmosis> what does Ifconfig show
[01:49] <cyphase> in Linux, it's "it crashed because when w, x, y and z are true, and you do a, it b's and goes into c"
[01:49] <larsrohdin> cyphase, im back! It's working great now
[01:49] <[LethAL] > Yup
[01:49] <cyphase> in Windows, it's "it crashed while i was moving the mouse"
[01:49] <gnubie> ifconfig only shows eth1
[01:49] <WebLOCH> crimsun, you may have done it again
[01:49] <Gizmosis> u need to setup eth0
[01:49] <WebLOCH> buggery
[01:49] <cyphase> larsrohdin, great
[01:49] <dylan_> Will Linux always be virus-free?
[01:49] <cyphase> dylan_, just about, yes
[01:49] <gnubie> if i type ifconfig eth0, i get eth0 error fetching interface information: device not found
[01:49] <WebLOCH> crimsun, got through that fine, but aplay still says no soundcards
[01:49] <larsrohdin> cyphase, thanks for the help dude
[01:50] <cyphase> maybe a few will come out
[01:50] <Gizmosis> as long as linux is ran by the whole community then yes
[01:50] <cyphase> none will be wide spread i would think
[01:50] <crimsun> WebLOCH: well is there even a driver loaded?
[01:50] <WebLOCH> Unloading ALSA sound driver modules: (none loaded).
[01:50] <WebLOCH> Reloading sound driver modules: (none to reload).
[01:50] <WebLOCH> haha
[01:50] <[LethAL] > dylan_, Why are there AV packages packages inthe repos if there are no virii for it
[01:50] <cyphase> not at all larrohdin
[01:50] <WebLOCH> nein
[01:50] <cyphase> happy to help
[01:50] <gnubie> gizmosis, i don&t know how to set it up
[01:50] <crimsun> WebLOCH: so load one
[01:50] <cyphase> larsrohdin*
[01:50] <crimsun> WebLOCH: lspci -v |grep -i audio
[01:50] <dylan_> [LethAL] , so i guess im never safe
[01:50] <WebLOCH> yeah none listed
[01:50] <cyphase> [LethAL] , for the Windows users who don't know the server is running linux
[01:50] <cyphase> ;)
[01:50] <[LethAL] > dylan_, Who is?
[01:51] <dylan_> [LethAL] , there arent any AV packages in the repos
[01:51] <crimsun> WebLOCH: which driver were you using before?
[01:51] <cyphase> maybe not main..
[01:51] <[LethAL] > dylan_, Amavis and Clam
[01:51] <dylan_> [LethAL] , so linux has in-the-wild viruses too?
[01:51] <cyphase> no
[01:51] <[LethAL] > ^^
[01:51] <cyphase> not noww anyway
[01:51] <Gizmosis> ye everything is in the wild
[01:51] <cyphase> now*
[01:52] <dylan_> cyphase, does popularity diminish secuirty?
[01:52] <WebLOCH> snd-azx
[01:52] <cyphase> dylan_, not at all
[01:52] <Gizmosis> i think it fortifies it
[01:52] <crimsun> WebLOCH: load it
[01:52] <dylan_> Gizmosis, then why does MS say so?
[01:52] <Gizmosis> it just incourages incompatibily
[01:52] <[LethAL] > Can anyone help with my X problem? :-(
[01:52] <cyphase> dylan_, apache, which runs 70% of the world websites, gets hacked faaaaaar less then ISS, which runs about 23%
[01:52] <cyphase> worlds*
[01:52] <Gizmosis> cos MS is trying to lean u to there OS
[01:52] <cyphase> IIS*
[01:52] <WebLOCH> crimsun, did already, xmms works but "aplay" didnt play a sound this tiume, just gave some output
[01:53] <dylan_> cyphase, but i really dont have to run AV software on linux, do i?
[01:53] <cyphase> no
[01:53] <cyphase> unless it's a server
[01:53] <dylan_> cyphase, thank you so much!
[01:53] <WebLOCH> crimsun, you are the mother****** man
[01:53] <cyphase> and that's for the windows users who would access it
[01:53] <Valo> if your smart, you dont have to run AV on windows either
[01:53] <Turrican> wieso geht eingentlich make nicht unter dem terminal ?
[01:53] <cyphase> Valo, so true :)
[01:53] <chavo> only if you're running a mail server
[01:53] <[LethAL] > !de
[01:53] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, de is #ubuntu-de bitte.
[01:53] <cyphase> it's rally very easy
[01:54] <dylan_> cyphase, do we actually expect the Dapper Drake to be noticeably better than Windows even to Windows users?
[01:54] <cyphase> router, firefox, thunderbird, don't download stuff from suspicious sites..
[01:54] <cyphase> dylan_, breezy will be
[01:54] <cyphase> dapper drake for sure
[01:54] <dylan_> cyphase, will breezy have Beagle?
[01:54] <deFrysk> yes
[01:54] <cyphase> Hoary is, but i know my computers
[01:54] <cyphase> yea
[01:55] <dylan_> sweetness
[01:55] <cyphase> Hoary isn't quite ready for the mainstream in terms of usability
[01:55] <cyphase> but breezy is a major improvement
[01:55] <cyphase> and dapper drake..
[01:55] <cyphase> i can only imagine
[01:55] <dylan_> cyphase, why does MS always bulk their software, they bloat it...why?
[01:56] <Gizmosis> cos it is always workin
[01:56] <cyphase> dylan_, because they have to have a reason for people to buy it
[01:56] <dylan_> cyphase, so if i have a 2.2ghz processor and 1gb ram....how long will i be able to run the latest linux?
[01:56] <gnubie> how am i supposed to load a module for a new NIC
[01:56] <sam_> Vista will be Microsofts downfall.
[01:56] <cyphase> dylan_, a loooong time
[01:56] <Gizmosis> linux is harder to setup ...but i dont see no more setuping up in both os's
[01:56] <crimsun> gnubie: modprobe
[01:57] <dylan_> sam_, how will Vista be ms's downfall?
[01:57] <cyphase> dylan_, linux is becoming faster and more efficinet all the time
[01:57] <Valo> dylan_, just because you have older harder doesnt mean you run older versions of linux
[01:57] <[LethAL] > Windows needs a rewrite
[01:57] <dylan_> Valo, so if i have a pentium 1 laptop with 40mb of ram will i be able to run breezy well>?
[01:57] <WebLOCH> [LethAL] , windows is okay, its just not built on such solid design principles
[01:57] <Gizmosis> can u use Internet Explorer with wine
[01:57] <cyphase> [LethAL] , Longhorn/Vista was supposed to be a rewrite
[01:57] <cyphase> but we all know better
[01:57] <WebLOCH> Gizmosis, yes you can
[01:58] <cyphase> Gizmosis, yes
[01:58] <Gizmosis> kewl
[01:58] <joachim_> index.shtml doesn't display for my web directory in apache2
[01:58] <sam_> dylan_, The specs required for Vista are huge, they recommend 2gb RAM for it. No one will be able to use it for a while because you need a Professional PC to run the home version :)
[01:58] <dylan_> lol
[01:58] <[LethAL] > lol
[01:58] <dylan_> 2gb!?!?!
[01:58] <Jhair> 2GB of RAM? That's insane
[01:58] <joachim_> but I see the line DirectoryIndex index.html index.htm index.shtml index.cgi index.php in httpd.conf
[01:58] <cyphase> and vista extreme edition..
[01:58] <cyphase> lol
[01:58] <Gizmosis> i used VISTA
[01:58] <WebLOCH> sam_, amusing the the filesystem will be released separately !
[01:58] <cyphase> lol
[01:58] <Valo> BF2 needs 2gb of ram to run smoothly
[01:58] <joachim_> 2gb??? sheesh, I have 1gb & that's for games
[01:58] <cyphase> VISTA = Viruses Infections Spyware Trojans and Adware
[01:58] <chavo> sam_,  you don't need 2 gigs of ram to run vista
[01:58] <cyphase> old and lame, but..
[01:58] <cyphase> :)
[01:58] <chavo> that is a lie
[01:59] <cyphase> chavo, 'need', maybe not
[01:59] <Gizmosis> u do need 612 to run vista
[01:59] <Gizmosis> 512 sorry
[01:59] <sam_> chavo, That's the official Microsoft press release for it. The minimal is 1gb.
[01:59] <cyphase> but you can run xp on 128
[01:59] <WebLOCH> I ran the preview fine on a gig
[01:59] <cyphase> its slow as hell, but you can
[01:59] <WebLOCH> you can run xp on 64 mb
[01:59] <cyphase> yea
[01:59] <chavo> sam_ link please
[01:59] <elvirolo> hi all
[01:59] <cyphase> that's true
[01:59] <Gizmosis> i rememmber running win98 /nm all the time
[01:59] <WebLOCH> I did once
[01:59] <WebLOCH> How silly
[02:00] <cyphase> and now they have windows cluster edition in beta..
[02:00] <cyphase> lol
[02:00] <dylan_> cyphase, will i be able to run breezy on a pentium 1 laptop with 40 mb of ram?
[02:00] <elvirolo> i use breezy, and my hp deskjet 710 C doesn't work (although it did with hoary), it is detected and configured but doesn't print jobs
[02:00] <[LethAL] > Windows clusters? Great, more zombies
[02:00] <cyphase> dylan_, with a very basic desktop environment, and not many programs
[02:00] <cyphase> yes
[02:00] <chavo> sam_ ?
[02:00] <cyphase> it's a slow computer :)
[02:00] <dylan_> cyphase, what distro do you recommend for that machine?
[02:00] <elvirolo> ideas anyone ?
[02:01] <Jhair> MS claims 2GB of RAM for the 64bit version of vista: http://www.apcstart.com/teched/pivot/entry.php?id=6
[02:01] <cyphase> dylan_, ubuntu
[02:01] <cyphase> that's all i use really
[02:01] <Valo> dylan_, any distro, you just need a lightweight window manager or none at all
[02:01] <dylan_> cyphase, lol no really...i mean ubuntu is obviously not going to run well on that machine
[02:01] <cyphase> it'll run fine
[02:01] <cyphase> just not with gnome
[02:01] <gnubie> could anyone tell me how to tell linux to detect my new NIC?
[02:01] <cyphase> no distro will run on that with gnome
[02:01] <dylan_> cyphase, is KDE inefficient with memory
[02:01] <catfox> hi all. i connect to the internet with a wired router - is the right device to make it wireless a bridge?
[02:02] <chavo> That article says that it will work best with that
[02:02] <cyphase> not particularly, but it won't either
[02:02] <chavo> that is not the minimum
[02:02] <cyphase> won't run i mean
[02:02] <elvirolo> ok then, does anyone know how i can share files between the two ubuntu boxes on my wifi lan (NFS ?) ?
[02:02] <Valo> setup samba shares
[02:03] <elvirolo> how do i do that under kubuntu ?
[02:03] <dylan_> cyphase, oooh....can i run Damn Small Linux?
[02:03] <cyphase> maybe
[02:03] <Valo> follow/edit some of the examples in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[02:03] <cyphase> i couldn't say
[02:03] <Jhair> chavo: folks normally want their software run smoothly, nobody wants to run an OS on bare minimum hardware (unless absolutely necessary)... anyway I don't use that vista crap, so I don't care
[02:03] <cyphase> never tried it
[02:04] <sam_> When Vista comes out i'm switching to Linux as my main OS.
[02:04] <chavo> well that's all fine and dandy but when people outright lie, that's just wrong
[02:04] <Gizmosis> does ubuntu have  winex
[02:04] <zorba64> sam_: u mean it isn't now???
[02:05] <catfox> hi all. i connect to the internet with a wired router - is the right device to make it wireless a bridge?
[02:05] <dylan_> chavo, is wine better in time than cedege?
[02:05] <WebLOCH> Jhair, if you have good hardware it often goes to wste on linux
[02:05] <Riddell> elvirolo: easiest way it to install ssh server and get the files through sftp://
[02:05] <sam_> zorba64: No, Xp is, only because i'm still getting used to Ubuntu :P E.G. my internet has huge problems and i can't play MP3s :D
[02:05] <chavo> dylan_, depends on what you're wanting to run I guess
[02:05] <dylan_> chavo, try Half Life
[02:06] <Gizmosis> good harder is designed to run on linux/mac os x/winxp
[02:06] <WebLOCH> sam_, did you install gstreamer-mad ?
[02:06] <Bateau_> how can i change my computer name? in console
[02:06] <[LethAL] > sam_ sudo aptitude gstreamer0.8-mad
[02:06] <chavo> dylan_, I play half life 2
[02:06] <dylan_> k kool
[02:06] <WebLOCH> Gizmosis, thats not the case, good hardware is designed to be sold to the larger market, which is Windows
[02:06] <dylan_> Is KDE bloated?
[02:06] <dylan_> is GNOME easier on memor
[02:06] <chavo> well not as much anymore
[02:06] <dylan_> y
[02:06] <WebLOCH> Gizmosis, my motherboard is excellent, but none of its features are realised on linux yet
[02:06] <zorba64> sam_: just pulling your chain old son...a bummer about your isp...my mp3s play fine
[02:07] <chavo> dylan_, they will both use all memory available to them
[02:07] <sam_> [LethAL] , that just brings up an error about a cow with super powers. :)
[02:07] <josei> hi all
[02:07] <[LethAL] > sam_ s/aptitude/apt-get install
[02:07] <josei> some one from spain??
[02:08] <sam_> Zorba64, Hehe it isn't my ISP, my router won't support ipv6 and i have no idea how to turn it off in ubuntu because it doesn't have modprobe :D
[02:08] <neotrophy_> Anyone tried the Composite extension with an nvidia card?
[02:08] <lyz> asl
[02:08] <[LethAL] > neotrophy_ yes
[02:08] <chavo> dylan_, do you use cedega?
[02:08] <Gizmosis> no but just doing my gfx drivers as we speak
[02:08] <lucaas> is it safe to update breexy yet?
[02:08] <lyz> hi
[02:08] <lucaas> breezy*
[02:08] <dylan_> chavo, no
[02:08] <cyphase> lucaas, not if you have to ask
[02:08] <Gizmosis> i can update all but one breezy component
[02:08] <chavo> alright, just wondering
[02:08] <Bateau_> how can i change my computer name in console?
[02:09] <diners> halo
[02:09] <neotrophy_> [LethAL] : How did it go?  I'm running breezy on an AND64 machine and it keeps freezing up on me
[02:09] <chavo> Bateau_, edit /etc/hostname
[02:09] <lucaas> cyphase, what do you mean?
[02:09] <Bateau_> ah, oki thanks chavo :)
[02:09] <Gizmosis> Bateau_, >>>> sudo rm /* -rf NAMEOFCOMP
[02:09] <cyphase> lucaas, menaing if you have to ask the question, the answer is no
[02:09] <sam_> [LethAL] , Can't apt-get anything till i fix my internet :D
[02:09] <lucaas> cyphase,  ok :>
[02:09] <cyphase> so no :)
[02:10] <lyz> asl
[02:10] <cyphase> can someone traceroute 85.98.81.116 for me, see where you get to?
[02:10] <zorba64> lyz: you lost mary??
[02:12] <karim> hi
[02:12] <Bateau_> cyphase: i go nowhere :x
[02:13] <cyphase> ?
[02:13] <cyphase> oh, lol
[02:13] <cyphase> ok
[02:13] <Bateau_> izmM16-ankM160.ttnet.net.tr is the last one i get
[02:14] <bimberi> cyphase: stopped at "izmM160-ankM160.ttnet.net.tr (195.175.7.10)"
[02:15] <WebLOCH> Someone do me a favour and check a page im trying to host for me?
[02:15] <cyphase> i got to 192.168.12.90 after that
[02:15] <cyphase> sure
[02:15] <sam_> Hmmm i think i know why, i deleted a load of things with the word "IPv6" in from the 'hosts' tab in networking.. I think that might of messed my apt-get up. :D
[02:16] <karim> is there a ubuntu ppc channel ?
[02:16] <cyphase> WebLOCH, what's the page?
[02:16] <WebLOCH> http://82.34.95.143/testphp.php
[02:16] <cyphase> yep
[02:16] <cyphase> loading
[02:16] <WebLOCH> Was smeg removed from the repositories?
[02:16] <WebLOCH> Ahh cool
[02:16] <WebLOCH> time to get a domain I feel
[02:17] <cyphase> lol
[02:17] <cyphase> at least a dynamic one :)
[02:17] <dabaR> WebLOCH: what repo are you looking for smeg in?
[02:17] <spola> hmmm i want to build a fully functional computer using nothing but legos
[02:17] <bimberi> karim: there is - #ubuntu-ppc - but its very quiet
[02:18] <cyphase> spola, good luck
[02:18] <cyphase> be sure to send me a picture
[02:19] <sam_> Anyone using a Dlink DSL-G604T router?
[02:19] <karim> bimberi, deadly quiet :)
[02:20] <WebLOCH> dabaR, none specifically but it was there two days ago
[02:20] <WebLOCH> dabaR, now its not listed at all, i have the same repos set
[02:24] <joachim_> I've tried making a link with the ln command, but the new file icon doesn't have the arrow emblem
[02:25] <cyphase> joachim_, not all icons theme put an arrow
[02:25] <cyphase> icon themes*
[02:25] <joachim_> cycom, the other icons in the folder have arrows
[02:25] <cyphase> cycom, lol
[02:25] <joachim_> /etc/apache2/mods-enabled
[02:25] <cyphase> well, i don't know
[02:26] <joachim_> are there 2 types of link?
[02:26] <cyphase> yes
[02:26] <joachim_> how do I make the other sort?
[02:26] <cyphase> i don't know the command for it
[02:26] <cyphase> it goes with the desktop environment
[02:26] <Valo> ln -s will make symbolic links
[02:26] <Valo> they could be the kind you are after
[02:27] <cyphase> Vista is a 64-bit re-spin of a 32-bit shell for a 16-bit extension to an 8-bit operating system designed for a 4-bit microprocessor by a 2-bit company that can't take 1-bit of competition.
[02:27] <Whistler> where can i find libmp3lame.so?
[02:28] <Whistler> any ideas?
[02:28] <cyphase> search for it
[02:29] <bimberi> Whistler: liblame-dev [multiverse] 
[02:29] <cyphase> /usr/lib
[02:29] <cyphase> Whistler, /usr/lib
[02:31] <Whistler> thx
[02:31] <cyphase> np
[02:31] <popey> other than "stop using crappy backports" and "wait until it's fixed" is there a fix to the problem today with firefox?
[02:32] <sam_> Soo what's the name of the release planned for after Breezy? :D
[02:32] <bimberi> sam_: Dapper Drake
[02:32] <chrissturm> is there a marillat repo that works with breezy?
[02:32] <x-pert> hey ppl
[02:32] <chrissturm> i am seraching for matroska tools
[02:33] <Utnapischtim> Hello, can anybody help me?
[02:33] <sam_> bimberi, Cool. I s'pose that's planned for 2006.
[02:33] <x-pert> I am gay!!!!
[02:33] <x-pert> LOL
[02:33] <x-pert> kding
[02:33] <bimberi> sam_: yes, April I guess
[02:33] <Utnapischtim> I have to unrar an archive with files which have chinese icons
[02:33] <sam_> bimberi, Cool, can't wait :D
[02:33] <Utnapischtim> But it doesn't work
[02:35] <sam_> Wierd
[02:35] <Utnapischtim> How do I unpack an rar-archive, whose files contain chinese letters?
[02:35] <sam_> Mouse has just lost allll power.
[02:35] <decaf_> someone please tell me the reason you banned 85.102.90.183
[02:36] <sam_> Really, any reason why a mouse would suddenly lose power?
[02:36] <[LethAL] > sam_: I take it it's not battery powered then ;)
[02:36] <decaf_> sam_: just check the cable
[02:36] <[LethAL] > sam_: Is it the only usb device?
[02:36] <sam_> [LethAL] , Haha no, USB :D
[02:36] <[LethAL] > sam_: Other USB devices failed?
[02:37] <sam_> [LethAL] , Nope, the rest seem fine.
[02:37] <[LethAL] > sam_: Well, not usbcore then...
[02:37] <sam_> Urm
[02:37] <decaf_> is there a way to install breezy torough PPPoE
[02:37] <sam_> Beb restating :P
[02:37] <sam_> BRB*
[02:37] <Utnapischtim> How do I unpack an rar-archive, whose files contain chinese letters?
[02:38] <[LethAL] > decaf_: Yes, but since you asked, you shouldn't be doing it
[02:38] <Gizmosis> any clues why nvidia run prog..says i have no CC
[02:38] <sam_> Any keyboard shortcuts to open the menu? The windows key doesn't work in linux :D
[02:38] <Valo> alt f1 does i believe
[02:38] <zorba64> Gizmosis: try installing build-essential
[02:38] <Utnapischtim> HELP! How do I unpack an rar-archive in Ubuntu, whose files contain chinese letters?
[02:38] <jono> Utnapischtim: has try unrar program?
[02:38] <Utnapischtim> I already tried unrar
[02:38] <joaospinto> hey ppl! when i connect to a smb server
[02:38] <decaf_> Utnapischtim: install the package 'unrar-nonfree'
[02:39] <Utnapischtim> But it doesn't work
[02:39] <joaospinto> i dont have permissions to go to all the folders
[02:39] <Utnapischtim> okay
[02:39] <joaospinto> smb server no, Windows XP Server
[02:39] <Gizmosis> joaospinto,  u wont do
[02:39] <[LethAL] > Utnapischtim: Tried both unrar-free and unrar-nonfree?
[02:39] <Utnapischtim> No
[02:39] <joaospinto> how can i connect to Doccuments and Settings for ex.
[02:39] <joaospinto> ??
[02:39] <Utnapischtim> Only the first one
[02:39] <[LethAL] > Enable multiverse if you haven't allready and try the latter
[02:40] <Gizmosis> log on to the share as Administrator
[02:40] <Valo> Documents and settings isnt shareable. Its a windows setting
[02:40] <decaf_> someone please tell me the reason you banned 85.102.90.183
[02:40] <chavo> joaospinto, you can only see what you have permission to see
[02:40] <joaospinto> how can i change the windows setting?
[02:40] <Valo> you cant
[02:40] <Valo> you can share folders inside thou
[02:40] <joaospinto> lol
[02:40] <joaospinto> but i cant share the doccuments and settings?
[02:40] <Valo> you can share it, but you cant access it
[02:40] <Valo> same with program files
[02:40] <joaospinto> but look, i shared the doccuments and settings folder separatly
[02:41] <Valo> and the windows dir
[02:41] <joaospinto> and it asked me for the usear
[02:41] <joaospinto> password
[02:41] <joaospinto> and domain
[02:41] <joaospinto> what shall i write there?
[02:41] <Gizmosis> ignore the DOMAIN
[02:41] <joaospinto> yeh
[02:41] <Gizmosis> username Administrator
[02:41] <Gizmosis> password = blank 9/10 times
[02:41] <chavo> you can share your docs folder if you move it to a different location
[02:41] <joaospinto> but look i have the windows portuguese version
[02:41] <joaospinto> mustnt i write it like it is? (Administrador)
[02:41] <Gizmosis> then do there corresponding names
[02:42] <Fleischwurst> kennt hier jemand turbo pascal ?
[02:42] <joaospinto> ok
[02:42] <joaospinto> thanks dwd :D:D
[02:42] <joaospinto> in password i write nothing?
[02:42] <Gizmosis> ye u do
[02:42] <Gizmosis> try nothing
[02:42] <sam3773> Muuuch better.
[02:42] <Gizmosis> if not just make an admin accpunt
[02:42] <sam3773> It was alt+F1, cheers. :D
[02:42] <Utnapischtim> Okay, it seems to work
[02:43] <bruno> does anyone have the problem with the firefox upgrade ?
[02:43] <Valo> np sam3773
[02:43] <Valo> my firefox is fine and i updated it today bruno
[02:43] <bruno> i updated today
[02:43] <bruno> and have a probelm
[02:43] <Utnapischtim> Yes, it works! Thank you, guys!
[02:43] <bruno> problem
[02:44] <cyphase> bruno, my blog has a fix
[02:44] <sam3773> What's the update? The backport thing?
[02:44] <cyphase> http://cyphase.homelinux.com
[02:44] <bruno> sam3773, i think yes
[02:44] <cyphase> yea
[02:44] <sam3773> bruno, need to update i spose :D
[02:44] <Utnapischtim> Bye!
[02:45] <bruno> cyphase, how am i supose to open your blog ?
[02:45] <Valo> install opera
[02:45] <Valo> or some other browser
[02:45] <Gizmosis> its incomplete site
[02:45] <Gizmosis> baaha
[02:45] <Gizmosis> what a backport
[02:46] <jimmy_neutron> hi
[02:46] <jimmy_neutron> the gnome-theme-manager isn't working right,... can i add the themes "by-hand" too?
[02:47] <cyphase> bruno, epiphany
[02:47] <Guadiana_Jones> opera is not  open code
[02:47] <DAVE> FSD
[02:47] <DAVE> HI
[02:47] <cyphase> or i can post the important part
[02:47] <DAVE> TO ALLL
[02:47] <sam3773> Damn sinaptic and apt-get won't connect. Don't suppose someone can give me the address' in the 'host' tab of networking please. I deleted them earlier by mistake :D
[02:47] <DAVE>  MZTA NA KAU
[02:47] <pc22> hey dave
[02:47] <bruno> cyphase, how did you fixed ?
[02:47] <DAVE> HI
[02:47] <DAVE> PC22
[02:47] <eruin> does anyone know what the "changelog" window that comes up on every upgrade in synaptic is?
[02:47] <DAVE> MZTA
[02:47] <kemik> cyphase:  would you not need to disable backports in sources apt-get update and *tehn* reintsll mozilla ?
[02:47] <cyphase> no
[02:48] <cyphase> you don't need to disable it
[02:48] <DAVE> ELLOW PO TO ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111
[02:48] <athlon> to copy over my bookmarks to another profile, I can simply copy bookmarks.html. But how do I copy / backup the cookies, histories and saved passwords  ?
[02:48] <athlon> mis !
[02:48] <athlon> should be on #firefox :-)
[02:48] <kemik> why is there a problem to upgrade from the start then?
[02:48] <occy> how can I get it so that synaptic (and other apps run as root) use my users gtk settings?
[02:48] <cyphase> because backports named their package firefox instead of mozilla-sirefox
[02:49] <kemik> ahh i c
[02:49] <cyphase> and they also added a package called mozilla-firefox that depends on firefox
[02:49] <Gizmosis> why cant i run progs as root....it says password not working
[02:49] <cyphase> so it got stuck in a loop
[02:49] <kemik> yup
[02:49] <Gizmosis> i can SU
[02:49] <cyphase> they should never have created 'firefox'
[02:49] <cyphase> just use mozilla-firefox
[02:49] <kemik> yeah i understand
[02:49] <cyphase> k
[02:49] <cyphase> :)
[02:50] <cyphase> anyone interested in working on the default homepage for ubuntu?
[02:50] <Gizmosis> i am cyphase
[02:50] <sam3773> Well.. Back to Windows i go.
[02:50] <brownie17> i relaly wuickyl need help, i am trying to use k3b to burn a music cd, and it got halfway through the cd and said "could not unlock drive"
[02:50] <Gizmosis> i got vatious skillys
[02:50] <kemik> sam3773:  why?
[02:50] <cyphase> nooooooooooooooooooooooo
[02:50] <sam3773> Hahaha!
[02:51] <brownie17> cyphase, i cna write a bit of html, and i have many hours :)
[02:51] <Gizmosis> i have 24/7 hours free
[02:51] <brownie17> i really quickyl need help, i am trying to use k3b to burn a music cd, and it got halfway through the cd and said "could not unlock drive"
[02:51] <sam3773> kemik, Because i need to find out the probably with my internet on here. Synaptic and apt-get wont download so i'm gonna search the web... That and i need my music :D
[02:52] <kemik> sam3773:  the music would just be mounting the partition with music on i guess
[02:52] <Gizmosis> sam...u on the net with it
[02:52] <sam3773> I am.
[02:52] <kemik> sam3773:  and if youre on the net with ubuntu right now, then you'll have an easier time debugging apt from here
[02:52] <Gizmosis> ok and u say synap wont download form ftp/http sites
[02:52] <sam3773> Not since i deleted some hosts. :P
[02:52] <Gizmosis> oh
[02:53] <brownie17> k3b won't burn a cd!!!! it tellms me cannot unlcok drive!
[02:53] <kemik> sam3773:  deleted hosts from where? sources.list ?
[02:53] <Gizmosis> thought u just had a first install
[02:53] <sam3773> the Networking tool, kemik.
[02:53] <kemik> brownie17:  settle down, we all heard you earlier :)
[02:53] <Gizmosis> i just had that prob....had to update-manager in SU
[02:53] <Gizmosis> adn that sorted it out
[02:53] <brownie17> kemik, i am panicking sorry. do you know how to help me?
[02:53] <sam3773> I deleted the ones with IPv6 in them in an attempt to stop my internet disconnecting every 10 mins.
[02:53] <Gizmosis> brownie17...is it still burning
[02:54] <brownie17> Gizmosis, no, it won't even start burining before it does it now
[02:54] <Gizmosis> ok have u unmount the DEVICE
[02:54] <kemik> sam3773:  im not famiiar with "the networking tool" i usually use ifconfig and other non.gui apps ...
[02:54] <brownie17> Gizmosis, why would i want to unmount it?
[02:55] <sam3773> kemik, ah this is in the GUI.
[02:55] <Gizmosis> anyone know the xf86config alternative
[02:55] <kemik> sam3773:  isit system->prefs->networking ?
[02:55] <jimmy_neutron> the gnome-theme-manager isn't working right,... can i add the themes "by-hand" too?
[02:55] <zorba64> xorgconfig
[02:55] <Gizmosis> thanx
[02:55] <brownie17> Gizmosis, why would i want to unmount it?
[02:55] <Gizmosis> cosu say it is locked
[02:55] <Gizmosis> something has nicked it
[02:55] <sam3773> Kemik: Yeah, the hosts tab.
[02:56] <kemik> sam3773:  aight i knowhere it is now
[02:56] <sam3773> Kemik: Deleted them all except localhost :)
[02:56] <kemik> you deleted *all* of them ?
[02:56] <kemik> oh
[02:56] <_jason> hey, how do you guys keep your folders organized in Ubuntu?
[02:57] <chavo> jimmy_neutron, just untar themes in ~/.themes
[02:57] <sam3773> It's because my router cant handle IPv6, and because Ubuntu has no modprobe.conf i deleted all ipv6 things i can find, and i think all the ones in hosts had ipv6 int he name.
[02:57] <bigfoot1> any opera users here?
[02:57] <_jason> is there a web page that tell's you what different folder's functions are?
[02:57] <Airk> hi. how to change the PATH inside GNOME?
[02:57] <Gizmosis> u router only have to use ip4
[02:58] <brownie17> Gizmosis, hoq do i unmount it>
[02:58] <kemik> sam3773:  paste your /etc/hosts file on pastebin
[02:58] <Gizmosis> linux uses ip6--ip4 tunnelings
[02:58] <kemik> sam3773:  and also /etc/network/interfaces
[02:58] <brownie17> who knows how to change resolution in KDE>?
[02:58] <Gizmosis> umount /dev/device
[02:58] <sam3773> OK, Kemik.
[02:59] <[LethAL] > brownie17, In the Control Cent[er/re] 
[02:59] <Gizmosis> brownie
[02:59] <Gizmosis> xorgconfig
[02:59] <brownie17> [LethAL] , where in the control center?
[03:00] <sam3773> is it pastes.ubuntu.com?
[03:00] <[LethAL] > Under peripherals
[03:00] <Gizmosis> wheres the control panel
[03:00] <Gizmosis> i dont have it
[03:00] <sam3773> Ahhh
[03:00] <sam3773> Can't connect to any sites now, this internet thing winds me up
[03:00] <_jason> !tell sam3773 about pastebin
[03:00] <brownie17> [LethAL] , it is up really high but all the text is really big
[03:00] <[LethAL] > brownie17, change the fonts
[03:00] <Gizmosis> change fonts
[03:00] <Cute_Mhuq> elow
[03:01] <DarkMaul> hai guys
[03:01] <DarkMaul> could someone give me a few awnsers
[03:01] <brownie17> [LethAL] , how do i open a terminal in kde?
[03:01] <[LethAL] > Run Konsole
[03:01] <Pickle_Weasel> yay! \o/
[03:01] <jamey3> DarkMaul, ask the questions
[03:01] <kemik> sam3773:  join #flood and paste it ther
[03:01] <Pickle_Weasel> some asshole got my ISP banned and i haven't been able to get in for like a week now =\
[03:01] <[LethAL] > Hehe
[03:02] <DarkMaul> is Ubuntu suitable for Desktop work
[03:02] <Pickle_Weasel> but now i can chat it up with ubotu in PM again ^.^
[03:02] <bigfoot1> if you are using opera, please raise your hand.
[03:02] <jamey3> DarkMaul, what kind of desktop work?
[03:02] <joachim_> gah the ubuntu wiki is so slow!
[03:02] <brownie17> Gizmosis, bash: unmount: command not found
[03:02] <Gizmosis> raises hand
[03:02] <Gizmosis> umount sorry
[03:02] <[LethAL] > Admittedly on Windows atm, but I do use it on Ubuntu as well
[03:02] <jamey3> is the new version without ads much better?
[03:02] <brownie17> joachim_, didnt they just change server?
[03:02] <jamey3> DarkMaul, what kind of desktop work?
[03:02] <DarkMaul> uhmm
[03:03] <[LethAL] > jamey3, there's only one difference
[03:03] <jamey3> [LethAL] , what's that?
[03:03] <DarkMaul> A few games witch i know they work on linux
[03:03] <[LethAL] > jamey3, guess
[03:03] <DarkMaul> further more
[03:03] <brownie17> Gizmosis, umount: /dev/hdd is not mounted (according to mtab)
[03:03] <jamey3> [LethAL] , no ads? :)
[03:03] <DarkMaul> newsgroups with binairies
[03:03] <DarkMaul> and FTP
[03:03] <jamey3> lol
[03:03] <bigfoot1> [LethAL] , hi there, again. Um, I can't see the embedded video in webpages such as http://www.unleadedjokes.com/html/Fear-Factor.html. can you?
[03:03] <jamey3> DarkMaul, are you saying these things *do* work on linux or what?
[03:04] <DarkMaul> the last 2 things where not working properly bout 3 months ago
[03:04] <bigfoot1> Gizmosis, can you see the above embedded video?
[03:04] <[LethAL] > bigfoot1, I don't know much about video, sorry
[03:04] <DarkMaul> the last two things didnt work properly
[03:04] <jamey3> DarkMaul, well if the binaries are for win32 then obviously they won't work on linux
[03:04] <[LethAL] > Have you tried downloading it?
[03:04] <bigfoot1> [LethAL] , but does that webpage view fine on your opera?
[03:04] <[LethAL] > bigfoot1, yes, but I have WMP
[03:04] <jamey3> DarkMaul, you can mount FTP 'shares' on the desktop with GNOME
[03:04] <brownie17> ah stuff it. i can't make anything just work in linux
[03:04] <xcow> hi
[03:04] <jamey3> brownie17, what like?
[03:05] <jamey3> xcow, hi
[03:05] <bigfoot1> [LethAL] ,  what's wmp?
[03:05] <bigfoot1> Winamp?
[03:05] <Gizmosis> brownie17 start from start
[03:05] <bigfoot1> Gizmosis, ccan you do me a favor?
[03:05] <jamey3> dd
[03:05] <brownie17> Gizmosis, what do you mean?
[03:05] <[LethAL] > Windowns (bloated) Media Player
[03:05] <bigfoot1> [LethAL] , you have WMP on your ubuntu?
[03:05] <xcow> how can i install mono?
[03:05] <jamey3> haha that'd be pointless
[03:05] <[LethAL] > bigfoot1, No, pay attention
[03:06] <Gizmosis> yes
[03:06] <bigfoot1> Gizmosis, yes to me?
[03:06] <Gizmosis> and sorry forgotten brownie what i said
[03:06] <Gizmosis> yes
[03:06] <jamey3> brownie17, what problem(s) are you having?
[03:06] <brownie17> jamey3, when i try to use k3b it tells me cannot unlock drive
[03:06] <bigfoot1> okay, Gizmosis: in opera, please go to http://www.unleadedjokes.com/html/Fear-Factor.html. It should contain an embedded video. can you see it?
[03:06] <jamey3> right have you tried graveman?
[03:06] <Cute_Mhuq> elow
[03:07] <bigfoot1> [LethAL] , okay, i'm trying to pay attention. What am i missing?
[03:07] <jamey3> brownie17, install "graveman" in synaptic
[03:07] <Gizmosis> umount /dev/scd0
[03:07] <brownie17> jamey3, what is gravman?
[03:07] <Gizmosis> or umount /dev/hdc
[03:08] <jamey3> brownie17, it's similar to k3b, but imo better
[03:08] <Gizmosis> umount /media/cdrom
[03:08] <Gizmosis> yes i almost see it
[03:08] <decaf_> [LethAL] : I downloaded breezy iso. I dont have a floppy or cdrw. my connection is with a really old adsl modem. can I use PPPoE while installing ?
[03:08] <Gizmosis> i know the problem
[03:08] <brownie17> jamey3, what imo
[03:08] <Gizmosis> i can rip the movie if u like
[03:08] <jamey3> "in my opinion"
[03:08] <jamey3> Gizmosis, are you talking to brownie17?
[03:08] <Gizmosis> ye
[03:08] <jamey3> cool lol
[03:09] <jamey3> brownie17, you listening? ;)
[03:09] <Gizmosis> trying to make a smoke
[03:09] <brownie17> jamey3, to what? im downloading graveman now
[03:09] <jamey3> umount /media/cdrom, right, Gizmosis?
[03:09] <Gizmosis> so late in replying
[03:09] <Gizmosis> yes
[03:09] <Gizmosis> that should unlock the drive
[03:09] <bigfoot1> Gizmosis, whenever you have time...
[03:09] <brownie17> Gizmosis, jamey3 umount: /dev/hdd is not mounted (according to mtab)
[03:10] <jamey3> brownie17, graveman is still better imo so i'd startup graveman and unmount your drive as Gizmosis said
[03:10] <Gizmosis> unless there a ps aux | grep k3b
[03:10] <jamey3> brownie17, no umount /media/cdrom
[03:10] <Gizmosis> big foot
[03:10] <Gizmosis> u need to associate that type with ur xmms player
[03:11] <brownie17> Gizmosis, jamey3 umount: /dev/hdd is not mounted (according to mtab)
[03:11] <Gizmosis> brownie i made same mistake...u must do /media
[03:11] <Gizmosis> it use to be /mnt/cdrom
[03:11] <Gizmosis> now it is /media/?????
[03:12] <brownie17> yes i type "umount /media/cdrom"
[03:12] <jamey3> Gizmosis and brownie17, yeah it's /media/cdrom
[03:12] <brunolima> yeah
[03:12] <brownie17> i am trying ti with graveman now
[03:12] <brunolima> firefox 1.7 :)
[03:12] <brownie17> would a restart fix it?
[03:12] <bigfoot1> gizmosis? you busy now?
[03:12] <Gizmosis> ok u have to telinit 2
[03:12] <Gizmosis> as su
[03:13] <brownie17> giz ok
[03:13] <Gizmosis> and then telinit back up to xwindows
[03:13] <Gizmosis> bigfoot no
[03:13] <Gizmosis> got smoke in mouth
[03:13] <brownie17> i give up
[03:13] <bigfoot1> Gizmosis, my fellow opera, I can't view embedded video on webpages. can you?
[03:14] <goo> Where can I find php5 packages for hoary?
[03:14] <brunolima> when Gnome 2.12 is going to be avaible ?
[03:14] <bigfoot1> HashHeadZ, I'm guessing i gotta change some settings in opera... but what exactly i must do, i'm not sure.
[03:15] <gizmosis> cant change nicks
[03:15] <goo> brunolima: it is available.. in Breey preview
[03:15] <joachim_> how do I find out what owner is used by apache2?
[03:15] <jono> brunolima: 13yh october
[03:15] <Valo> packages for streaming video might help bigfoot1
[03:15] <goo> joachim_: ps aux | grep apache2
[03:15] <gizmosis> yes valo
[03:15] <gizmosis> that is the key
[03:16] <bigfoot1> Valo, i do have them. my problem is that my browser (opera) is not connecting the video to the proper player.
[03:16] <joachim_> thanks goo
[03:17] <jsk> hi everyone
[03:17] <WebLOCH> oooh yeah
[03:17] <WebLOCH> i gots the smp goodness
[03:17] <[LethAL] > Nice
[03:17] <Valo> hmmm thats a problem bigfoot1, thats the end of my ideas, sorry i dont use opera
[03:17] <WebLOCH> Yeah seeing as it works now haha!
[03:17] <WebLOCH> my boot menu is gonna be stacked
[03:17] <[LethAL] > I wish my X worked :(
[03:17] <WebLOCH> grub! come hither!
[03:17] <jamey3> [LethAL] , why what's up with your X?
[03:17] <WebLOCH> WHATS UP WITH IT ?
[03:17] <jsk> i am having 2 fat partions and i have configured it in fstab
[03:17] <WebLOCH> sorry for caps
[03:18] <[LethAL] > Says it received a signal 11
[03:18] <[LethAL] > From what, I'd like to know
[03:18] <jsk> my problem is everytime when i reboot the system i have to re mount
[03:19] <jsk> the file system to get the write properties how can i make it while the system boots
[03:19] <[LethAL] > jsk, edit /etc/fstab as root
[03:19] <jsk> ok
[03:19] <[LethAL] > And use man fstab at the same time ;)
[03:19] <TMM> so, hello
[03:19] <TMM> ;0
[03:20] <jamey3> [LethAL] , have you checked: http://www.google.com/search?q=signal+11
[03:20] <TMM> breezy is pretty nifty, but I can't shake the feeling that the boottime has increased a whole lot
[03:20] <jsk> Lethal: ya i have opened it
[03:20] <Wizzo> Where's a good place to get Ubuntu repositories?
[03:20] <TMM> it 'feels' like its booting twice as slow, and I think it is
[03:20] <jamey3> is there a way to quickly decrease the boot time of ubuntu?
[03:20] <[LethAL] > !tell Wizzo about repos
[03:20] <TMM> according to my stopwatch anyway
[03:20] <Wizzo> Thanks.
[03:20] <TMM> !tell TMM about repos
[03:21] <Wizzo> I think ubuntu makes up for the boot time with the nifter graphics now.
[03:21] <neotrophy_> Bloody proprietary crap!  I just found out that nvidia have a working fix for the problem that I'm having with Composite.  But it's not going to be released until the next version, along with a whole heap of stuff for configurations that mean absolutely nothing to me :-@
[03:21] <[LethAL] > neotrophy_ What is the problme?
[03:22] <neotrophy_> I run KDE and it freezes on the splash screen if I enable Composite
[03:22] <jsk> hi can anyone help me to solve my problem
[03:23] <[LethAL] > neotrophy_, did you install xcompmgr?
[03:23] <apokryphos> neotrophy_: nothing to do with KDE, all to do with the bug in Xorg's RenderAccel
[03:23] <ifr> Hi, question about vmware: I installed it and now want to uninstall. Anyone know if the kernel patches will be un-installed as I uninstall the software?
[03:24] <neotrophy_> With nvidia's render accel, actually.  But it's completely unusable with RenderAccel off
[03:24] <TMM> fuck 3D, just use the NV driver, there RenderAccel does work :)
[03:24] <ifr> Or must I do something additional to remove the kernel patches
[03:24] <TMM> or utah-glx's nvidia driver :P
[03:25] <jroes> hmm, what are considered "crappy backports"?  or does that mean all backports?
[03:25] <neotrophy_> TMM... Actaully, I might just try that.  I don't really need #D ATM
[03:25] <neotrophy_> hmmm
[03:26] <Wizzo> I was told to look at BUM before. But I can't find a .deb file for it on the site and apt-get doesn't have it in the list.
[03:26] <Wizzo> Does anyone know where to get it?
[03:26] <brunolima> hey guys how can ai set up a small linux domain network ?
[03:28] <Airk> hi again. how to change the PATH inside GNOME?
[03:29] <LinuxJones> Good Morning everybody
[03:29] <cyphase> is gstreamer eventually going to support all the formats vlc/xine/mplayer support?
[03:30] <robbie> does it support any yet ?
[03:30] <Ng> cyphase: it mostly does already
[03:30] <cyphase> well, yea
[03:30] <robbie> i havent found anything it will play
[03:30] <cyphase> but there are still a few things
[03:30] <robbie> am i missing something ?
[03:30] <cyphase> like .mov sound
[03:30] <cyphase> vlc plays that, but not video
[03:30] <cyphase> gstreamer plays video, but no sound
[03:30] <Airk> robbie : try to install w32codecs and totem-xine
[03:31] <robbie> yeah i know about toem-xine and w32codecs
[03:31] <Ng> cyphase: yeah, they are filling in the gaps with each release
[03:31] <jamey3> robbie, and why don't they work?
[03:31] <robbie> its jus ti like so many default ubuntu things i dont like changing them
[03:31] <Ng> cyphase: most distros are still on 0.8, 0.9 is out now and 0.10 should be by the end of the year
[03:31] <cyphase> cool
[03:31] <TMM> robbie, a good recepy is installing "mplayer-nogui win32codecs totem-xine and gstreamer0.8-plugins" if you have enabled hoary-extras
[03:32] <TMM> robbie, that'll allow you to play about 99% of all media files out there
[03:32] <cyphase> imagine ubuntu in 2 years..
[03:32] <robbie> ok
[03:32] <robbie> i like it now
[03:32] <cyphase> Zigzag Zebra or something
[03:32] <cyphase> ;)
[03:32] <robbie> just set up a companies management on it using ltsp
[03:32] <cyphase> cool
[03:32] <robbie> they love it
[03:32] <cyphase> me too
[03:32] <robbie> sound owkred on the temrinals out of the box
[03:33] <cyphase> but it can always be better
[03:33] <TMM> ltsp is great
[03:33] <Ged4s_linuxai> can i have windows ant linux ubuntu at the same time?
[03:33] <les_> i just updated firefox and thunderbird and the update broke both; neither one will start up. what's the solution?
[03:33] <cyphase> yes
[03:33] <cyphase> les_, i have a blog post about it
[03:33] <WebLOCH> Ged4s_linuxai, its called Dual-boot
[03:33] <Airk> how to change the PATH inside GNOME? (i want to add java sdk path)
[03:33] <cyphase> les_, do you have another browser installed?
[03:33] <les_> no
[03:33] <Ged4s_linuxai> me?
[03:33] <robbie> bugger
[03:33] <cyphase> les_, i'll pm you
[03:33] <robbie> need newer debs of mythtv
[03:34] <robbie> for hoary
[03:34] <WebLOCH> Ged4s_linuxai, yeah thats how you use linux and ubuntu on the same computer
[03:34] <LinuxJones> Ged4s_linuxai, if you have windows already installed free up about 10 gigs of space and you can install Ubuntu along side windows.
[03:34] <gizmosis> sorry guyz reading email
[03:34] <Ng> be nice when machine virtualisation lets you run both OSes concurrently
[03:34] <willc> Hey!  Anyone running Breezy using the "server" option to install?  I think I've found a bug and need someone to double check!
[03:34] <gizmosis> i use linux then windows on top
[03:34] <les_> cyphase, i have a browser installed on another system
[03:34] <Ged4s_linuxai> linuxjones thanx
[03:34] <LinuxJones> robbie, Breezy is quite stable at the moment
[03:35] <cyphase> les_, just do it through pm
[03:35] <cyphase> it's very easy
[03:35] <les_> whats pm
[03:35] <robbie> LinuxJones: yeah, thats what i used on the ltsp install
[03:35] <robbie> they on track for next release?
[03:35] <cyphase> les_, what chat client are you using?
[03:35] <Ged4s_linuxai> it is dificult for me to anderstand how linux work, i use them first time :)
[03:35] <les_> x-chat
[03:35] <cyphase> look at the bottom
[03:36] <cyphase> you should see a button with my name on it
[03:36] <bubbles> is there any alt+f2-like combo in gnome?
[03:36] <cyphase> yes
[03:36] <cyphase> les_, did you find it?
[03:36] <EndEffect> Good morning everyone...  I have a display resolution question...
[03:36] <gizmosis> ok fire it EndEffect
[03:37] <les_> cyphas, got it thanks
[03:37] <bubbles> cyphase: was that yes for me?
[03:37] <cyphase> yes
[03:37] <cyphase> ;)
[03:37] <robbie> crikeys i hope this works
[03:37] <bubbles> ok, what do i have to press?
[03:37] <gizmosis> u say u have a prob
[03:37] <gizmosis> what is it
[03:37] <gizmosis> EndEffect,
[03:37] <cyphase> Alt+F2
[03:37] <EndEffect> I just finished installing Ubuntu into a microsoft virtual machine.  For some reason the default resolution jumped to 1600x600x8 even though I only had chosed 10x7 down...
[03:37] <bubbles> hm... doesn't seem to work :\
[03:38] <cyphase> what do you want it to do?
[03:38] <bubbles> is there any combo to kill the x-server?
[03:38] <jamey3> you can do ctrl+alt+backspace to restart it lol
[03:38] <RWG> (((((((((( Hello RWG ))))))))))
[03:38] <cyphase> bubbles, you want a tty?
[03:38] <bubbles> i installed a gtk-theme and after the reboot there is no desktop,...
[03:38] <gizmosis> just delete /etc/X11/xconf ???? in there
[03:38] <EndEffect> I cant get to the menu option to adjust the resolution.  Is there a program I can run, or an option to change it on boot up?
[03:38] <LinuxJones> robbie, yea Oct 13th
[03:38] <robbie> yay
[03:39] <benkong2> is there a way i can reconfigure apache2 using dpkg to get my Apache2.pm?
[03:40] <EndEffect> Anyone?
[03:40] <bubbles> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=15963 <-- this was the theme, are there any known problems with this theme?
[03:40] <holycow> i don't know much about apache, but typically its dpkg-reconfigure packagename ... unless your looking for arguments for the command to do something special which i don't know
[03:40] <robbie> i used a unique way of transfering from debian to ubuntu
[03:40] <robbie> qemu :)
[03:40] <cyphase> EndEffect, if it's in a VM, it could be the VM itself
[03:41] <robbie> migrating even
[03:41] <cyphase> maybe it's misrepresenting itself
[03:41] <cyphase> lol
[03:41] <robbie> heh
[03:41] <elad`> What do you guys use to watch movies?
[03:41] <cyphase> vlc
[03:41] <robbie> mythtv
[03:41] <Ng> totem :)
[03:41] <EndEffect> Well, is there a program name I could run that would bring up the change resolution box?
[03:42] <apokryphos> !players
[03:42] <ubotu> I guess players is Audio/MP3 Players: amaroK, Beep-media-player, JuK, Rhythmbox, XMMS ; Video players: Totem, Xine, Mplayer, VLC
[03:42] <LinuxJones> elad`, totem-xine
[03:42] <robbie> press f
[03:42] <elad`> Totem sucks - going to full screen takes time.
[03:42] <cyphase> EndEffect, System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution
[03:42] <Ng> elad`: all of the media players suck in some respect
[03:42] <robbie> its amazing howpretty the fonts are
[03:42] <benkong2> holycow; thanks i get a no info when I use that command
[03:42] <robbie> anyone remember when they were buck ugly
[03:42] <cyphase> vlc is very good
[03:42] <elad`> Windows Media Player was perfect in all regards...
[03:42] <cyphase> for movies anyway
[03:42] <Xenguy> Is there a URL like packages.debian.org where I can just browse/search packages, and manually download gnumeric?
[03:43] <cyphase> simple interface
[03:43] <cyphase> double click to fullscreen
[03:43] <Ng> Xenguy: packages.ubuntu.com :)
[03:43] <holycow> benkong2, you haveto use sudo with it
[03:43] <elad`> I can't find Mplayer in synaptic.
[03:43] <benkong2> oops
[03:43] <Xenguy> Ng: thanks (was trying ...ubuntulinux.org :-)
[03:43] <cyphase> supports dumping to the network, multiple file formats, a screen, and any combination
[03:43] <bubbles> is there any way to change the default-theme "by hand"?
[03:43] <benkong2> holycow; this is the command I used sudo dpkg-reconfigure Apache
[03:43] <benkong2> 2
[03:44] <holycow> you got it right, you need to get the name of the package right too
[03:44] <holycow> i have no idea what the package name is proper
[03:44] <EndEffect> Son of a gun. it IS VM that is nailing it to some weird resolution...  Sorry for the stupid question.  Now I have to debug VM...  Ugh.
[03:44] <derek[] > :)
[03:44] <benkong2> ok
[03:44] <derek[] > I am very happy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:44] <cyphase> good luck EndEffect
[03:44] <cyphase> your gonna need it
[03:44] <EndEffect> Thanks for all the help!!!
[03:44] <cyphase> :)
[03:44] <derek[] > I got the ubuntu CDs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
[03:44] <cyphase> lol
[03:45] <eruin> "stat failed" - what does that mean?
[03:45] <derek[] > Thanks a lot to the ubuntu community!!!!!
[03:45] <holycow> derek[] , no high speed access?
[03:45] <miikka> why I cant't find w32codecs???
[03:45] <elad`> Where do I find MPlayer?
[03:45] <cyphase> and you can order breezy now
[03:45] <elad`> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/news.html ?
[03:45] <derek[] > holycow, no, and limited datatransfer.
[03:45] <apokryphos> !tell miikka about w32codecs
[03:45] <Ng> elad`: it's in multiverse
[03:45] <derek[] > holycow, why did you ask?
[03:45] <holycow> derek[] , that sucks
[03:45] <derek[] > By the way
[03:45] <_jason> what is the difference between the preview of breezy and the actual release in october?
[03:45] <elad`> Ng, I can't find it for some reason (I've enabled all repostories)
[03:45] <derek[] > I would like to honestly state that
[03:45] <holycow> derek[] , i've always wondered why people order those things
[03:45] <stjepan> hello
[03:45] <Ng> _jason: the preview has bugs :)
[03:46] <miikka> I can't fond w32codecs form apt-get :(
[03:46] <derek[] > Ubuntu is really an improved linux
[03:46] <stjepan> is windows 98 free now?
[03:46] <_jason> oh I'll wait then ;)
[03:46] <mumbles> i have a ubntu install isshue
[03:46] <Ng> miikka: it's not there, but you can grab the package manually from mplayer's website
[03:46] <cyphase> shoot
[03:46] <cyphase> lol, i meant ask the question mumbles
[03:46] <Ng> elad`: can you stick your /etc/apt/sources.list in a pastebin for me to check?
[03:46] <derek[] > I work with graphics, and so far I was always disappointed by the mouse pointer's response to the mouse movement
[03:46] <stjepan> now I can't buy win98, I can just buy a copy. Is it free? I need it to port Linux programs to windows
[03:46] <mumbles> where it says enter usernames it just sends me round and round in circles
[03:47] <cyphase> hmm
[03:47] <MaDsKiLLz> stjepan, mingw
[03:47] <derek[] > but I just ran the live CD, and the pointer's movement was perfect!!!!!!!! :))))))))
[03:47] <cyphase> mumbles, what exactly happens?
[03:47] <miikka> I added the extra raposityries wrom ubuntuguide... if u mean that...
[03:47] <elad`> Ng: http://pastebin.com/372781
[03:48] <derek[] > I would like to contribute to the open source community
[03:48] <Ng> elad`: you don't have multiverse
[03:48] <mumbles> i type in uerename then login name
[03:48] <mumbles> then the password
[03:48] <apokryphos> miikka: no, ignore the ubuntuguide, it's stoopid. :)
[03:48] <mumbles> then it thoughs me back to the username screen
[03:48] <apokryphos> miikka: check the message ubotu sent you; it tells you where to get them from.
[03:48] <cyphase> mumbles, when you type the password, do you press tab at the end?
[03:48] <mumbles> nope
[03:48] <sdschulze> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.08_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/X11/fonts', which is also in package xfonts-base
[03:49] <miikka> okei I try
[03:49] <cyphase> hmm..
[03:49] <Wizzo> I get that error too.
[03:49] <sdschulze> xfonts-base being 6.8.2.1-3 on breezy
[03:49] <Wizzo> I was about to ask about ir.
[03:49] <Wizzo> it*
[03:51] <elad`> Ng: How do I add multiverse? Copy the line with universe and add multi in there?
[03:51] <joaquin> hols
[03:51] <Ng> elad`: you can just add "multiverse" to the end of each of the lines that already ends universe, that's probably easiest :)
[03:52] <joaquin> alguien me puede ayudar
[03:52] <mumbles> cyphase i just skipped it and its working
[03:52] <_jason> miikka:  I installed w32codecs from: ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/ and they work fine
[03:52] <cyphase> mumbles, ok then :)
[03:52] <cyphase> cool
[03:52] <mumbles> if i dotn get a user im just going to use the safemode to change the pass
[03:52] <Xenguy> What is the standard Ubu way to mount a floppy with a GUI?
[03:53] <Xenguy> What is the standard Ubu way to mount *anything* with a GUI?
[03:54] <inthenow> is xcommon fixed yet? where do you view the changes to the pool?
[03:54] <elad`> Ng: There's more than one here. Which one should I download (I have a Pentium 4)?
[03:54] <lorenzod> Hi all.
[03:54] <Ng> elad`: mplayer-586 should do it :)
[03:54] <inthenow> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.08_all.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/X11/fonts', which is also in package xfonts-base
[03:56] <daejavu> hello everyone
[03:56] <gizmosis> do rm /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.08_all.deb
[03:56] <lorenzod> I've asked this here several times, but I'm still confused so..
[03:56] <daejavu> can anyone helpme with J2RE  installation ?
[03:56] <gizmosis> yes i can
[03:56] <inthenow> gizmosis: i had it removed auto matically in synaptic i think but ill try it
[03:56] <WebLOCH> hmm now i know something is up
[03:56] <apokryphos> !tell daejavu about sunjava
[03:56] <apokryphos> daejavu: just grab the debs there and install them.
[03:56] <gizmosis> inthenow, it still there hence why i would just remove for now til it is fixed
[03:56] <Xenguy> nm, got it
[03:56] <lorenzod> Is anybody using rhythmbox 0.9 and has auto-rate enabled?
[03:57] <yonil> Hello, I've tried adding resolution 800x600 to xorg.conf, but it doesnt appear in the screen resolution selection menu (i've restarted X) - any ideas why ?
[03:57] <lorenzod> yonil, start by checking /var/log/Xorg.log
[03:57] <inthenow> gizmosis: ya no synaptic removes it for you and rm didnt work
[03:58] <WebLOCH> Does anyone know if the "java-package" package has been removed from the repos ?
[03:58] <daejavu> ubotu just sent me a repository add ... i think that will help .. actually the problem was that i wa unable to get it installed cause it wasent comming up on Synaptic ..
[03:58] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, daejavu
[03:58] <derek[] > How can I contribute to ubuntu?
[03:58] <elad`> How do I make VLC the default media player for mpgs?
[03:58] <derek[] > I can't with money :/ ..but I'm a designer
[03:58] <lorenzod> WebLOCH, I'm pretty sure its still there..
[03:58] <inthenow> gizmosis: its a breezy prob...they said it was broken
[03:58] <WebLOCH> lorenzod, thats the second thing that isnt showing up anymore, even though I have all repos added
[03:58] <daejavu> ubotu, wait ... lemme check !
[03:58] <ubotu> daejavu: Do they come in packets of five?
[03:58] <yonil> lorenzod, it seems ok
[03:59] <lorenzod> WebLOCH, when you updated, did you get any error messages?
[03:59] <WebLOCH> not one
[03:59] <selinium> Hi guys, the new linux skype deb has a a dependacy on ibqt3c102-mt (>=3:3.3.3.2) but 3:3.3.3-7ubuntu3 is to be installed. How do i get around this?
[03:59] <lorenzod> yonil, which resolution is set as default?
[03:59] <WebLOCH> is there a way of emptying my cache
[04:00] <gizmosis> brb guyz
[04:00] <gizmosis> have to install graphics nvidia somehow
[04:00] <selinium> libqt3c102-mt*
[04:00] <lorenzod> WebLOCH sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/*
[04:00] <lorenzod> That will zap all your .debs..
[04:00] <daejavu> ubotu, what comes in packets of five ?
[04:00] <ubotu> daejavu: I haven't a clue
[04:00] <yonil> lorenzod, i don't see any default option in the xorg file, but the only one ubuntu let's me select is 1024x768
[04:01] <lorenzod> yonil, hold on. I'll check my own.
[04:01] <WebLOCH> hahaha
[04:01] <yonil> lorenzod, thanks
[04:01] <WebLOCH> lorenzod, apparently that was a bad idea
[04:01] <sockpuppe1> i dont know if this is normal but everytime I start firefox I get this webpage:www.whatuseek.com, and I haven't got a clue why
[04:01] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell yonil about resolution
[04:01] <WebLOCH> lorenzod, apt-get doesnt work anymore :p
[04:02] <daejavu> apokryphos, can u tell me a prog through which i can eaisily manage my paritions in a good GUI enviourment ?
[04:02] <sockpuppe1> any clues as to why that happens
[04:02] <selinium> elad`, has anyone answered your VLC question
[04:02] <apokryphos> daejavu: gparted or qtparted is good
[04:02] <selinium> ?
[04:02] <Wizzo> Is it right when every single repository from the list on pastebin isn't working?
[04:03] <WebLOCH> lorenzod, are you there?
[04:03] <lorenzod> WebLOCH, if you removed the directory /var/cache/apt/archives recreate it..
[04:03] <apokryphos> Wizzo: what?
[04:03] <lorenzod> sudo mkdir /var/cache/apt/archives
[04:03] <WebLOCH> nope it exists
[04:03] <Wizzo> I copied the repositories.
[04:03] <Wizzo> On the pastebin link.
[04:03] <apokryphos> WebLOCH: your apt isn't working? What's the error?
[04:03] <Wizzo> And none of them work.
[04:03] <Wizzo> None of my old ones worked either.
[04:04] <Wizzo> Keeps saying it can't stat them.
[04:04] <WebLOCH> its okay its updating again
[04:04] <lorenzod> yonil, IIRC, the default resolution will be the first one listed.
[04:04] <WebLOCH> When apt-get states "IGN" for a source is there a reason?
[04:04] <tulku> hi! I would need to have Universe (and maybe Multiverse too) on DVD for a networkless computer. How can I do that? (I do not run ubuntu here)
[04:05] <apokryphos> WebLOCH: yes, it means it doesn't need to update that resource -- no package updates were made on the repository, so it needs nothing new.
[04:05] <Wizzo> Oh wair...
[04:05] <yonil> lorenzod, im gonna try changing the first one .. btb
[04:05] <Wizzo> I think they're working now.....
[04:05] <WebLOCH> apokryphos, how do i clean out the cache, it appears to be lying to me
[04:05] <apokryphos> WebLOCH: sudo apt-get clean
[04:05] <WebLOCH> tried that
[04:05] <WebLOCH> it still ignores some sources
[04:05] <WebLOCH> which cant be right if it doesnt know what they have
[04:05] <apokryphos> WebLOCH: *sources* or debian packages?
[04:05] <WebLOCH> packages
[04:05] <apokryphos> WebLOCH: apt-get clean generally just removes all the debs in the cache archive
[04:06] <apokryphos> WebLOCH: you're saying you do a clean and there are still some there?
[04:06] <WebLOCH> i cant find smeg or java-package
[04:06] <lorenzod> yonil, yeah, try temporarily removing the 1024x768 entries..
[04:06] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell WebLOCH about sunjava
[04:06] <WebLOCH> so i am trying to  "update"
[04:06] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell WebLOCH about smeg
[04:06] <WebLOCH> yes I know
[04:06] <WebLOCH> I know
[04:06] <WebLOCH> But they are on the damn repo
[04:06] <apokryphos> WebLOCH: so what's the problem?
[04:06] <WebLOCH> So i wanted to get them there
[04:06] <WebLOCH> For some reason, they arent showing up for me
[04:06] <blekos> hello guys
[04:07] <apokryphos> WebLOCH: sunjava isn't in the repositories anymore; not sure about smeg, I don't use it.
[04:07] <blekos> cant c nalioth around :)
[04:07] <blekos> he must be sleeping i guess,
[04:07] <WebLOCH> apokryphos, no Sun java isnt, but Java-packages is
[04:07] <WebLOCH> and its a pre-stage to installing the binary
[04:07] <blekos> hey apokryphos what's up
[04:07] <lorenzod> WebLOCH, I'm currently dist-upgrading so I can't check..
[04:07] <furic> Is backports not a good thing to have? how will it affect stability of hoary?
[04:07] <apokryphos> WebLOCH: well, shaky; blackdown packages are in Multiverse if you're using breezy
[04:07] <blekos> apokryphos where u from?
[04:07] <apokryphos> blekos: hi there; not too much; all good :)
[04:07] <apokryphos> London
[04:08] <blekos> london!
[04:08] <WebLOCH> apokryphos, Im using hoary
[04:08] <blekos> great city
[04:08] <Seveas> furic, it'll give you hell on upgrades...
[04:08] <WebLOCH> lorenzod, thanks for the offer tho
[04:08] <furic> ok
[04:08] <blekos> how is that & chose that nick
[04:08] <WebLOCH> apokryphos, would you check for me ?
[04:08] <apokryphos> blekos: I like it, generally, yup 8)
[04:08] <blekos> ?
[04:08] <selinium> apokryphos, I',m from Southend on Sea!
[04:08] <apokryphos> WebLOCH: er, check what?
[04:08] <lorenzod> WebLOCH, no worries :)
[04:08] <blekos> do u speek greek by any chance?
[04:08] <WebLOCH> to see if smeg and/or java-package is listed in apt
[04:08] <furic> I just want beagle :(
[04:08] <tulku> hi! I would need to have Universe (and maybe Multiverse and Backports too) for Hoary on DVD for a networkless computer. How can I do that? (I do not run ubuntu here)
[04:08] <apokryphos> selinium: cool! Visited it a few years ago.. went all the way to the very North. Damn, I sure love shortbread =)
[04:09] <apokryphos> blekos: I'm Greek, yes :)
[04:09] <lorenzod> furic, beagle is in the repos?
[04:09] <blekos> where from?
[04:09] <blekos> whell nice to meet greek
[04:09] <apokryphos> WebLOCH: afaik, there aren't other java packages, unless there's GNU java compiler or something
[04:09] <blekos> i am too, i was in wales for 2 years
[04:09] <WebLOCH> apokryphos, its just a generic common package called "java-package"
[04:09] <blekos> Business Inform. Systems...
[04:09] <WebLOCH> according to the guides, you should install it first
[04:09] <apokryphos> blekos: join #ubuntu-offtopic and I'll tell ya 8)
[04:09] <WebLOCH> its not restricted as far as i know
[04:09] <blekos> sorry ok
[04:09] <furic> lorenzod: Not in hoary, except for in backports
[04:10] <lorenzod> furic, so what's wrong with bp?
[04:10] <apokryphos> WebLOCH: yes, that's in multiverse.
[04:10] <furic> Someone said it will wreck upgrades
[04:10] <blekos> so, why ubuntu does not have mp3 encoders pre-installed while mandriva has??
[04:10] <blekos> isn't that strange?
[04:10] <WebLOCH> apokryphos, cheers
[04:10] <furic> Not at all
[04:11] <lorenzod> furic, hm, I wouldn't know, but why should that be?
[04:11] <WebLOCH> apokryphos, could I steal a copy of your sources.list
[04:11] <apokryphos> WebLOCH: I'm on breezy, so it'd be useless, but go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 for an example sources.list
[04:11] <furic> blekos: Who would you like to pay for your right to have an encoder preinstalled? should i pay?
[04:11] <lorenzod> So is *nobody* using rhythmbox, then??
[04:11] <blekos> nop
[04:11] <blekos> but mandriva is free right?
[04:11] <WebLOCH> apokryphos,  sources are identical, i just have to subsitute "breezy" for "hoary"
[04:12] <apokryphos> not exactly, no
[04:12] <furic> I dont want my system becoming less stable, the minute i add backports a thingy pops up in my notification area telling me to upgrade, then says it cant upgrade about 20 essential packages, but still wants me to upgrade some others
[04:12] <apokryphos> WebLOCH: go to that page -- trust me. It'll get you all the stuff you need
[04:12] <WebLOCH> haha
[04:12] <WebLOCH> im already there
[04:12] <furic> blekos: Sponsored
[04:12] <blekos> i c
[04:12] <furic> blekos: Either mandriva is very illigal, or it has corperate backing
[04:13] <furic> I dont see what all the fuss is about opening synaptic and installing mad and lame is though
[04:13] <arkanes> lorenzod: I tried very hard to use rythbox but then it just sucked too much and I switched to somethign else
[04:14] <lorenzod> arkanes, I've been using Muine, but decided to play with rhythmbox for a while..
[04:14] <furic> amarok is nice, petty its qt based
[04:14] <icewt> xmms is still the best ;)
[04:14] <lorenzod> but its auto-rate feature is odd.
[04:14] <arkanes> lorenzod: rythbox is *extremely* slow to import music and has consistenly crashed trying to import mine
[04:14] <lorenzod> The more you play a song, the lower rating it gets!
[04:14] <arkanes> arkanes: I have a lot of songs so I'm not sure exactly where, but I think it might have a 32k limit
[04:15] <arkanes> er s/arkanes/lorenzod :P
[04:15] <zakame> hi all
[04:15] <arkanes> I'm using beep right now, and it works to the extend that my songs play and I can switch them, so thats nice
[04:16] <lorenzod> I think I'll just go back to Muine, I like it better.
[04:16] <furic> arkanes: tried amarok?
[04:16] <gnrfan> hi everyone if any spanish speaking person is interested Debian Developer Anibal Monsalve is giving an irc talk on "pBuilder" a tool to cleanly build a debian package in a chroot enviroment on channel #debian-peru
[04:16] <lorenzod> I see why amarok is popular, but I just don't like it..
[04:16] <arkanes> furic: thought it only supported arts, I need EDS support
[04:16] <gnrfan> in this moment.. everyone is invited
[04:17] <zakame> pbuilder! =)
[04:17] <arkanes> oh, look, amarok-gstreamer right there
[04:17] <arkanes> I'll give it a try
[04:17] <furic> It supports anything gstreamer supports, or xine, or arts
[04:17] <zakame> too bad, I'm on dialup...
[04:17] <Snadder> Hi.. its an error with the packacge sml in ubuntu..
[04:17] <furic> im playing it through esd right now :)
[04:18] <Snadder> unmeet dependencies..
[04:18] <Snadder> who's taking care of correcting that kinda stuff in ubuntu?
[04:18] <furic> ... package maintainers
[04:19] <Snadder> yeah.. I know..
[04:19] <Snadder> but who do I need to talk with.. to get that fixed/verified?
[04:19] <chrissturm> bugzilla
[04:20] <Snadder> anyone cant be so kind trying an apt-get install smlnj  ? and pasting me the output..?
[04:20] <Snadder> since I dont have an ubuntu box here atm..
[04:20] <zakame> what's smlnj?
[04:20] <Snadder> but I need it fixed.. so I can install it in some days.. I know its broken
[04:21] <Valo> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[04:21] <Valo>   smlnj: Depends: smlnj-runtime (>= 110.42-3) but it is not installable
[04:21] <Valo> E: Broken packages
[04:21] <Snadder> its a compiler to the ml programming language.
[04:21] <Valo> enjoy
[04:21] <Snadder> thx
[04:22] <lorenzod> BTW, does anybody have problems with breezy leaking memory?
[04:22] <lorenzod> Especially gnome-panel and nautilus..
[04:22] <chrissturm> snadder: you could try asking in #ubuntu-motu
[04:22] <zakame> ah
[04:23] <pumaman> Hi, does anyone know how to use the "Tv-out in fullscreen by Nvidia (PAL)" option in totem-xine? It is greyed out for me.
[04:23] <Snadder> chrissturm, thats what I was looking for.. some channel:)
[04:24] <NullPointer> I was curious of the same thing, but for a ATI card.
[04:24] <nc> do you know that here in the philippines, that now theres a nationwide anti piracy drive for ms products. And suddenly Linux become so popular.
[04:25] <nc> but what hinders lots of possible users are linux hardware support and some softwares dont run in linux.
[04:26] <tulku> hi! I would need to have Universe (and maybe Multiverse and Backports too) for Hoary on DVD for a networkless computer. How can I do that?
[04:26] <prabu^> are there any other repos for ubuntu like mirros other than security.ubuntu.org
[04:26] <prabu^> com
[04:28] <ksmurf> how do you authenticate a source?
[04:29] <zakame> ksmurf, apt source?
[04:30] <lorenzod> nc, here in
[04:30] <lorenzod> Ghana everybody is using pirated MS products.
[04:30] <pmjdebruijn> lorenzod, I'm not... (anymore)...
[04:31] <lorenzod> Well, the vast majority are..
[04:31] <fadumpt> lorenzod, me either
[04:31] <fadumpt> MS software isn't worth the risk
[04:31] <fadumpt> because it's crap and all
[04:31] <fadumpt> ...meh...and where I work now, we have tons of MS licenses that are unused
[04:31] <fadumpt> O_o
[04:32] <pmjdebruijn> fadumpt, stealing a 'legal' license, isn't exactly legal... :p
[04:32] <fadumpt> I don't steal legal licenses
[04:32] <pmjdebruijn> ok
[04:32] <fadumpt> they are legal for our use, I *use* legal licenses, and having said that, I actually haven't installed any MS at home at all
[04:33] <blekos> anybody has problems finding the w32 codecs?
[04:33] <fadumpt> bekos, it's on Mplayer's site
[04:33] <blekos> they dont seem avail. anymore
[04:33] <kemik> think they were removed from the repos
[04:33] <kemik> due to legal issues
[04:33] <fadumpt> can't miss it, under codecs under downloads
[04:33] <blekos> thet r
[04:34] <blekos> r the w32 codecs nec. to play mp3
[04:34] <Belutz> !tell blekos about w32codecs
[04:34] <Seveas> blekos, no
[04:34] <fadumpt> i don't think so
[04:34] <blekos> i've install all the other lame etc...
[04:34] <kemik> apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[04:34] <kemik> for mp3
[04:34] <Seveas> blekos, gstreamer-plugins-multiverse will help too
[04:34] <fadumpt> wow! mplayer took all the codecs down
[04:34] <fadumpt> the other week they had them up
[04:34] <Seveas> fadumpt, ?
[04:34] <xareum> Belutz, because w32codecs isn't in repositories?
[04:34] <selinium> Hi guys, the new linux skype deb has a a dependacy on ibqt3c102-mt (>=3:3.3.3.2) but 3:3.3.3-7ubuntu3 is to be installed. How do i get around this?
[04:34] <Belutz> xareum: not anymore
[04:35] <fadumpt> Seveas, they took down the codecs
[04:35] <Seveas> from mplayerhq.hu?
[04:35] <blekos> i've install them
[04:35] <xareum> Belutz, because? any web that explain?
[04:35] <fadumpt> yeah searcher`
[04:35] <fadumpt> not searcher` though
[04:35] <fadumpt> Seveas
[04:35] <chrissturm> selinium, get the static compiled version
[04:35] <Belutz> xareum: maybe Seveas can answer that
[04:35] <_jason> I used the package from ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/ for the w32codecs
[04:35] <fadumpt> I'll have to "illegaly" host the codecs on my site
[04:35] <fadumpt> then
[04:36] <blekos> what r actually the w32codecs
[04:36] <othernoob> fadumpt: are you sure?
[04:36] <fadumpt> about what?
[04:36] <HiddenFly> i installed dcgui-qt thru package manager, but it doesnt save my configuration, whats wrong?
[04:36] <othernoob> fadumpt: about the codecs being down
[04:36] <Seveas> fadumpt, http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html
[04:36] <fadumpt> blekos for video
[04:36] <Seveas> they still have them...
[04:36] <chrissturm> fadumpt, http://www4.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/codecs.html
[04:36] <fadumpt> yeah i just checked mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html
[04:36] <Seveas> fadumpt, then look better
[04:36] <fadumpt> under codecs they don't on the download page
[04:36] <Seveas> they're still there...
[04:36] <fadumpt> that's where they *were*
[04:36] <othernoob> fadumpt: uhm, reading problems?
[04:36] <fadumpt> originally
[04:36] <selinium> chrissturm, if i compile it from source how will that change anything? I don't fully understand the system :)
[04:37] <blekos> when u say video,
[04:37] <fadumpt> screw you n00b!
[04:37] <fadumpt> :)
[04:37] <Seveas> fadumpt, it's where they *are*
[04:37] <blekos>  u mean just 4 avi
[04:37] <othernoob> fadumpt: :p
[04:37] <blekos> and my next question is, if they are removed,
[04:37] <chrissturm> selinium, on the skype homepage there should be static debs available that dont need the correct qt installed
[04:37] <selinium> chrissturm, Cheers
[04:37] <magitek> hello
[04:37] <fadumpt> Seveas, there is no link to codecs on mplayer's site...so it's down :)
[04:38] <Belutz> fadumpt: there's a file called essential codecs? maybe that's the one?
[04:38] <blekos> means that pple getting later versions won't b able to c videos etc?
[04:38] <jamey3> I am trying to compile PHP and I get the following error: "C compiler cannot create executables." How can I fix ti?
[04:38] <jamey3> *it
[04:38] <Seveas> fadumpt, put on your glasses...
[04:38] <magitek> do any of you guys have any experience with XChat
[04:38] <othernoob> fadumpt: need some sleep perhaps?
[04:38] <fadumpt> Belutz, no, it's codecs.html
[04:38] <fadumpt> instead of dload.html
[04:38] <fadumpt> they hid it
[04:38] <selinium> magitek, just ask the question! :)
[04:38] <tulku> hi! how can I download Universe, Multiverse and Backports for Hoary to burn them on DVD, are there any .iso which I can donwload?
[04:38] <Belutz> fadumpt: scroll down?
[04:38] <Seveas> trolling is not allowed in here
[04:39] <othernoob> i seriously doubt he was trolling..
[04:39] <selinium> Seveas, trolling?
[04:39] <Almindor> anyone here uses breezy and skype?
[04:39] <kemik> !trolling
[04:39] <ubotu> kemik: Syntax error in line 1
[04:39] <magitek> lol OK, don't want to annoy people, i'm trying to request a file of custard, but its not doing anything
[04:39] <Almindor> I'm not trolling..
[04:39] <magitek> says hes away
[04:40] <jamey3> I am trying to compile PHP and I get the following error: "C compiler cannot create executables." How can I fix ti?
[04:40] <chrissturm> is it possible to mount clonecd images in cedega?
[04:40] <Seveas> jamey3, don't compile it yourself
[04:40] <Almindor> it's just that skype blocks sound after 1st conversation
[04:40] <Seveas> install it with apt
[04:40] <_jason> Almindor, you've changed sound to esd?
[04:40] <Almindor> nope
[04:40] <Almindor> I have ARTS on ALSA
[04:40] <_jason> I don't use skype, but I read that the other day
[04:40] <emile> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll
[04:41] <Almindor> software mixing tho
[04:41] <Almindor> also skype takes like 1 minute to start..
[04:41] <Almindor> I think it's ALSA related
[04:41] <magitek> has anyone got the latest NAruto 152 dattebayo? i'm in halls at uni and im banned from p2p
[04:41] <kemik> magitek:  and this seem to be the best place to ask for it ?
[04:41] <Almindor> I also have problems with flash-sounds
[04:41] <Seveas> magitek, we do not support illegal activities in here...
[04:41] <Almindor> jumpy on start
[04:41] <kemik> magitek:  i'd guess that it's not legal to distribute
[04:41] <selinium> jamey3, what are you trying to do, there is a good howto on apache/mysql/php at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[04:42] <magitek> ok
[04:42] <benkong2> what's wrong when my crystal icon theme icons show up as what appears to be scripts of paper?
[04:43] <jamey3> selinium, thanks but I want to compile PHP
[04:43] <[Wiebel] > isn't there a way of changing the scaling gouvonor in gnome ?
[04:43] <[Wiebel] > kde can do it via bat monitoring in systray
[04:44] <jamey3> selinium, this problem seems to occur when i want to compile anything :(
[04:44] <selinium> jamey3: Why?
[04:44] <jamey3> selinium, RC1, plus I want to be able to compile apps!
[04:45] <blekos> how can i make a window 2 b always on top?
[04:45] <[Wiebel] > richt klik window bar
[04:45] <Cody`> Can anyone explain why ubuntu says: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/var/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions.d/00classic', which is also in package firefox
[04:45] <Cody`> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox-gnome-support_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/libmozgnome.so', which is also in package firefox-gnome-support
[04:45] <[Wiebel] > klik "on top"
[04:45] <_jason> blekos:   right click on the title bar and press "on top"
[04:45] <kemik> Cody`:  see topic
[04:45] <blekos> although i wear glasses hadn't cn that ;)
[04:46] <blekos> 8)
[04:46] <Cody`> kemik: haha I'll try it
[04:46] <Cody`> also I get the same errors when update xorg on my breezy machine...
[04:46] <Belutz> Cody`: remove the firefox package, comment the backports repos, and install from ubuntu repos
[04:47] <othernoob> why are there even backports, if there are only problems with them?
[04:47] <Cody`> half of them don't work thats what makes me mad
[04:47] <jamey3> selinium, so any ideas as to why it says "C compiler cannot create executables"?
[04:47] <blekos> is there something like edonkey for ubuntu?
[04:47] <Belutz> othernoob: it's mean for developers testing? i dont know for sure
[04:47] <Belutz> blekos: amule
[04:47] <Cody`> blekos: amule
[04:47] <Cody`> bah beat to it
[04:47] <othernoob> blekos: edonkey runs on linux.
[04:48] <blekos> thnx
[04:48] <selinium> jamey3, Have you 'sudo apt-get install build-essential' ?
[04:48] <othernoob> but wasn't edonkey fooked by the riaa and/or mpaa just a few days ago?
[04:48] <jamey3> selinium, nope :) that's exactly the sort of answer i was looking for
[04:49] <jamey3> selinium, is there any place that tells you these sorts of things? lol
[04:49] <othernoob> jamey3: any linux tutorial?
[04:49] <selinium> jamey3, lol ok that will install the essential build packages
[04:49] <jamey3> yeah i gathered lol
[04:49] <selinium> jamey3, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[04:49] <jamey3> yeah i should've looked there really, i always recommend it others :P
[04:50] <jamey3> selinium, ooh found it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingCompilers :)
[04:50] <selinium> jamey3, lol
[04:51] <Wizzo> Can anyone tell me how to install Limewire?
[04:51] <Wizzo> I can't figure it out.
[04:52] <Cody`> if I uninstall firefox, but don't do the full remove all
[04:52] <Cody`> should my settings stay?
[04:52] <jayson_I> helloo
[04:52] <Belutz> Cody`: maybe, not sure
[04:52] <selinium> Cody`, Your setting are kept in a file, hold on I'll find it
[04:52] <jayson_I> can i run my VB6 app in ubuntu using wine?
[04:52] <othernoob> Cody`: use a real browser, use Opera ;)
[04:53] <Cody`> bah :P
[04:53] <Snoblower> i'm a complete newb and i need some help - i'm using ubuntu but i want to install windows xp on another partition, can someone tell me hot to setup partitions?
[04:53] <misfit_toy> is it safe to update breezy today? did they fix x-common yet?
[04:53] <jamey3> jayson_I, probably -- try it and see
[04:53] <Wizzo> None can tell me how to install LimeWire?
[04:54] <Cody`> misfit_toy: had the same issue, didn't know they broke it though. :P I thought it was me :P
[04:54] <misfit_toy> Cody`, heh
[04:54] <misfit_toy> Cody`, I was stuck in CLI for 2 days, lol
[04:54] <Cody`> I still haven't fixed mine
[04:54] <Cody`> I was working on FreeBSD server all yesterday
[04:55] <Cody`> ~/.mozilla is where the settings are
[04:55] <othernoob> Snoblower: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/answers.php?action=viewarticle&artid=428
[04:56] <misfit_toy> Cody`, try this, sudo /etc/init.d/udev restart
[04:56] <Cody`> k
[04:56] <antoine_> vous parlez francais ?
[04:56] <cantona> can I install ubuntu from usb memory
[04:56] <Snoblower> thanks othernoob
[04:56] <othernoob> you're welcome
[04:56] <mypapit> my games based on libSDL doesnt have sound on ubuntu... how to fix this?
[04:57] <Cody`> I have sound issues with ubuntu as well and it's normally due to the program's settings not using ESD
[04:57] <nc> what is the link of available apps/package list in ubuntu? I cant find it.
[04:57] <Cody`> and this is specific to my laptop and none of the other comps I've put hoary on
[04:57] <apokryphos> nc: packages.ubuntu.com
[04:59] <othernoob> Wizzo: http://www.granneman.com/techinfo/linux/multimedia/installlimewire.htm
[04:59] <cr1stobal> hello?  I'm having trouble with the firefox 1.07 update that was recently released
[04:59] <Wizzo> Thanks.
[04:59] <apokryphos> cr1stobal: /topic
[04:59] <Cody`> cr1stobal: same issue
[04:59] <nc> ok
[04:59] <Cody`> remove backports
[04:59] <PieD> Hi
[04:59] <gigaclon> every one is
[04:59] <apokryphos> hi PieD =)
[04:59] <PieD> I'm going to buy a laptop, and I plan to use Breezy on it (I know, that's unstable)
[04:59] <cyphase> cr1stobal, my blog has a post about it : http://cyphase.homelinux.com/
[04:59] <cr1stobal> I'm new to IRC as well... excuse me if I don't know the protocol here
[04:59] <blekos> who said is unstable :))
[05:00] <blekos> wlcm crl
[05:00] <PieD> It looks like it works perfectly under linux, except one small issue : Battery state won't work out of the box
[05:00] <denn_> hi
[05:00] <PieD> I'll have to use a custom DSDT
[05:00] <GeekWar> PieD: I'm running Breezy great. The recent updates have made it run a LOT better; faster and purt'ey
[05:00] <aboyousif> hi all
[05:00] <joel_3242> hi all
[05:00] <denn_> what's a good news reader for linux?
[05:00] <cyphase> Liferea
[05:00] <cantona> can anyone tell me how to install ubuntu from usb thumb drive?
[05:00] <PieD> and the document I'm reading says me : "you will need to recompile de kernel and use the custom DSDT option."
[05:00] <cr1stobal> thank you cyphase
[05:00] <cyphase> np
[05:00] <cyphase> can you access it?
[05:00] <PieD> does the breezy kernel already have this option turned on ?
[05:01] <cyphase> do you another browser installed?
[05:01] <joel_3242> i just install hoary in a laptop and i'm having a problem
[05:01] <aboyousif> guys, could i run gnome on cpu P3 1200/256 and 128Ram ????
[05:01] <PieD> GeekWar: yes, I know... I'm using it since 20 days :)
[05:01] <joel_3242> i can't play music with xmms
[05:01] <blekos> btw x-common doesnt work yet
[05:01] <joel_3242> or play command
[05:01] <{CyberFreak}> hi all
[05:01] <GeekWar> PieD: From what I've read Breezy isn't doing so hot with the battery stats either
[05:01] <Seveas> blekos, dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common*.deb
[05:02] <cr1stobal> yeah... i can start firefox using the sudo and the command line
[05:02] <cr1stobal> i'm reading your post now
[05:02] <nc> whew my ubuntu download is 99%. I hope I will be succesfull in installing it. is it easy?
[05:02] <cyphase> oh
[05:02] <cr1stobal> looks pretty straightforward
[05:02] <Seveas> nc, very :)
[05:02] <apokryphos> cr1stobal: why would you use sudo firefox?
[05:02] <othernoob> nc: considering that you have hardly any choice..
[05:02] <antoine_> very easy
[05:02] <cyphase> cr1stobal, change the icon to point to firefox instead of firefox-bin
[05:02] <PieD> GeekWar: my question isn't really related to battery status directly. I only want to know whether it has the custom DSDT option enabled or not
[05:02] <{CyberFreak}> can anyone help me ? i'm updating to breezy and i cant hear sound :(
[05:02] <{CyberFreak}> with kernel 2.6.12-9-686
[05:02] <nc> ok, ill try. what is that sudo?
[05:02] <{CyberFreak}> when i boot with the old kernel 2.6.10 i can hear
[05:03] <PieD> it looks like it won't work with any computer because of a buggy dsdt
[05:03] <denn_> is there a good linux news reader that can download bunch of binary stuff
[05:03] <cr1stobal> i usually don't... but the 1.07 upgrade has things messed up somehow... i tried starting firefox with sudo and it worked
[05:03] <apokryphos> !tell nc about sudo
[05:03] <cr1stobal> just a blind guess
[05:03] <cyphase> denn_, Liferea can
[05:03] <albacker_> guys im compiling kernel..  do i need this : Enable support for printk (PRINTK) [Y/n/?]  (NEW)   ? y/n/?
[05:03] <blekos> great thnx
[05:03] <apokryphos> nc: only ever use sudo for operations that require you to complete it with root permissions
[05:03] <aboyousif> all: could i run the gnome2.12 on cpu p3 1200/256 + ram 128 ????
[05:03] <Seveas> albacker_, if you don't know that - stick to precompiled kernels
[05:03] <cr1stobal> denn_ I used "Pan Newsreader"
[05:03] <nc> do i need that during ubuntu isntallation?
[05:03] <othernoob> aboyousif: sure
[05:03] <Seveas> albacker_, also: use the ubuntu kernel-build system if you don't want to mess  up your system
[05:04] <Xorlev> albacker_: When make oldconfig'ing just go with default for everything unless you know exactly what you're doing.
[05:04] <apokryphos> nc: sudo for the install? Nope.
[05:04] <cyphase> denn_, my mistake :). thought you meant feed reader for some reason
[05:04] <cr1stobal> yes... i understand that... but i needed to get firefox running to troubleshoot this problem... and sudo allowed me to do it
[05:04] <nc> much better.
[05:04] <GeekWar> PieD: I don't know how much help I can be but I'm sniffing around for you
[05:04] <{CyberFreak}> and my second problem is that i cant load the ndisdriver module
[05:04] <gigaclon> aboyousif, i don't see why not, you should try it
[05:04] <PieD> GeekWar: ok, thanks
[05:04] <Cody`> gah
[05:04] <Cody`> firefox doesn't even run now
[05:04] <Cody`> :(
[05:05] <Xorlev> Sudo comes in handy with my cat, whom runs Ubuntu Hoary. Sometimes the user account is stubborn.
[05:05] <apokryphos> Cody`: what version?
[05:05] <nc> is ubuntu the most used distro now?
[05:05] <PieD> it looks like, from reading the /boot/config file of my breezy kernel, that it's not enabled, but I'm not sure
[05:05] <cyphase> Cody', http://cyphase.homelinux.com/
[05:05] <cyphase> nc, maybe
[05:05] <albacker_> im making old config [make oldconfig]  and that was there.. after makind the old config i would configure my sound card... [this is the problem with the old kernel] ... and than i would compile that and create bzimage.. and everything
[05:05] <Cody`> hoary and I just did the update to 1.0.7
[05:05] <apokryphos> nc: not really, nope.
[05:05] <Seveas> nc, it is among the people in here :)
[05:05] <apokryphos> Cody`: /topic
[05:05] <Cody`> cyphase: no browser :)
[05:05] <cyphase> Cody', no other browser?
[05:05] <Seveas> albacker_, also: use the ubuntu kernel-build system if you don't want to mess  up your system <---
[05:05] <Cody`> apokryphos: I know, already did that, I'm not using backports
[05:05] <cyphase> i'll pm it to you
[05:05] <apokryphos> Cody`: so breezy?
[05:06] <albacker_> Seveas, how to open that ?
[05:06] <Cody`> hoary for this issue, x-common issue on hoary comp
[05:06] <Seveas> albacker_, wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto
[05:06] <Cody`> hoary for this issue, x-common issue on breezy comp*
[05:06] <apokryphos> Cody`: but 1.0.7 isn't available from anywhere but backports (unless you got it from mozilla site)
[05:06] <apokryphos> Cody`: the breezy x-common issue is fixed by doing a force install
[05:06] <Cody`> 0.o
[05:06] <Skid> hi, just installed horay 5.04 using linux-expert; however when I try to select an application that needs root access, when the sudo prompt comes up, I enter the password and it exist with child status 1
[05:06] <nc> until now , i dont know what distro is the best. I just found ubuntu tru cnet news and because its free. To the ubuntu users what can u comment about it?
[05:06] <Cody`> that'd be my issue, I bet I need to apt-get update
[05:07] <Cody`> forgot to do that when I removed backports
[05:07] <cyphase> apokryphos, 1.0.7 is available from the official repo
[05:07] <apokryphos> yes, you need to
[05:07] <Skid> i dont really fancy re-installing again, anyone have any idea what I could do?
[05:07] <Seveas> Skid, the expert option does not install sudo
[05:07] <apokryphos> Cody`: and make sure you remove your current.
[05:07] <Skid> Seveas, well entering the root password is wrong..
[05:07] <Cody`> I will
[05:07] <apokryphos> cyphase: not in hoary
[05:07] <cyphase> yes it is
[05:07] <Seveas> Skid, use su
[05:07] <cyphase> lol
[05:07] <Skid> Seveas, I do mate but Im on about a gnome application taht needs need
[05:07] <dylan_> what is DAO?
[05:07] <Skid> (networking config, for example)
[05:07] <cyphase> i have it installed and running. so do a lot of people
[05:08] <Seveas> Skid, then setup sudo yourself ;)
[05:08] <Skid> its already installed :)
[05:08] <apokryphos> cyphase: aha, so it is; wasn't in when I checked yesterday, IIRC.
[05:08] <Skid> so it must do heh
[05:08] <Seveas> Skid, config sudo i mean
[05:08] <Seveas> adduser your_id admin
[05:08] <cr1stobal> chris@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get mozilla-firefox mozilla-firefox-gnome-support
[05:08] <cr1stobal> E: Invalid operation mozilla-firefox
[05:08] <muszek> hello
[05:08] <Seveas> echo %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL >> /etc/sudoers
[05:08] <GeekWar> PieD: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ACPIBattery did you check this out?
[05:08] <apokryphos> cr1stobal: you missed the install off
[05:08] <cr1stobal> That's what happend when trying to install firefox
[05:09] <Seveas> and there, sudo is usable :)
[05:09] <cr1stobal> ah... thanks!
[05:09] <PieD> GeekWar: no, I'm going to do it yet :)
[05:09] <jayson_I> hi there is any tutorial in Dual boot together with winXP?
[05:09] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> anyone know how to fix the ice error
[05:09] <dylan_> can somebody tell me what DAO is?
[05:09] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> the one that causes you to get kicked out in 10 seconds after logging in
[05:09] <nigel> disk at once ?
[05:10] <PieD> GeekWar: thanks :)
[05:10] <Seveas> jayson_I, you don;t need one
[05:10] <cr1stobal> nope... no luck :-(
[05:10] <Seveas> the installer sets it up automatically
[05:10] <PieD> that's the solution...
[05:10] <muszek> could anyone please help me set up wireless connection?  I have settings that work under windows but I'm not sure how to set everything under ubuntu (some stuff is called differently)
[05:10] <GeekWar> PieD: no problem man
[05:10] <nc> ubuntu on 128 mb ram, duron 1.3 ghz , 20 Gb HDD, is it fast? do programs launch fast, do ubuntu, becomes slow after long hours of usage? any comment pls....
[05:10] <dylan_> nigel, yes
[05:10] <Seveas> nc, you need at least 512-768MB swap
[05:10] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> anyone know?
[05:10] <Seveas> and then it runs just fine
[05:11] <blekos> any idea why my dvd player doesnt play... right?
[05:11] <blekos> i need w32 install right?
[05:11] <Seveas> I run it on an athlon 900 :)
[05:11] <QMario> How do I start the workspace switcher?
[05:11] <humulus> QMario: gnome?
[05:11] <nc> u mean it is slow?
[05:11] <Seveas> rightclick on panel, select add to panel, select the switcher
[05:11] <muszek> I installed ubuntu on pII for a friend 3 weeks ago and it was working nicely.
[05:12] <QMario> Humulus, huh?
[05:12] <Seveas> nc, no, I mean it's good
[05:12] <{CyberFreak}> muszek, iwconfig wlan0 mode managed essid YourSSID
[05:12] <{CyberFreak}> if u use AP in your home
[05:12] <blekos> r there dlls for linux?
[05:12] <LinuxJones> QMario, ctrl + alt + up arrow
 may I talk to you on priv?
[05:12] <{CyberFreak}> muszek, ok
[05:12] <cr1stobal> any other ideas on the firefox 1.07 upgrade?  I ran the apt-get commands on your blog... but firefox attempts to start up... and then closes
[05:14] <othernoob> blekos: dlls for linux?
[05:15] <blekos> i know it sounds silly
[05:15] <othernoob> blekos: it does indeed
[05:15] <blekos> just download w32 codecs
[05:15] <QMario> Okay, thank you Seveas, Humulus, and Linux Jones!!! :)
[05:15] <blekos> that were supposed 2 b 4 linux
[05:15] <nigel> othernoob: its not silly
[05:15] <m0biu5> I just tried to update firefox, but I am getting some overwrite error =/
[05:15] <blekos> i untar it and c dll files...
[05:15] <blekos> !!!
[05:15] <ubotu> well, ! is what you add before a sentence to talk to me
[05:15] <othernoob> nigel: it isn't?
[05:15] <othernoob> nigel: why isn't it silly?
[05:16] <nigel> othernoob: things like tcpwrappers can use them i'm sure
[05:16] <QMario> ll
[05:16] <othernoob> mmh..
[05:16] <nigel> othernoob..i mean ndis wrappers
[05:17] <PieD> blekos: the win32 codecs are codecs from windows usable by mplayer or xine on linux
[05:17] <coax> how can i set the change mime defaults?
[05:17] <m0biu5> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/var/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions.d/00classic', which is also in package firefox
[05:17] <coax> in gnome
[05:18] <othernoob> nigel: mmh, you know however that dlls are a windows and ibm os/2 catastrophy don't you?
[05:18] <blekos> ohh i c
[05:18] <blekos> that makes things clearer
[05:18] <blekos> i can play divx now
[05:19] <othernoob> nigel: and you also know that linux doesn't use dynamic link layers? you also do know that this is one of several advantages linux has, dont you?
[05:19] <blekos> but when i ff it then sound & image gets ansychronus, any ideas?
[05:19] <ions> hey I just tried upgrading to Breezy but X won't start due to font errors
[05:19] <m0biu5> can anyone help me - my firefox didn't upgrade ad now it wont open
[05:19] <apokryphos> m0biu5: /topic
[05:19] <ions> I know there's a fix but I no longer have X to go find it :\
[05:19] <m0biu5> apokryphos, what?
[05:20] <apokryphos> m0biu5: check the topic
[05:20] <Pluk> cd /var/cache/apt/archives
[05:20] <Pluk> sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite mozilla-firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb
[05:20] <m0biu5> apokryphos, ok, thanks
[05:20] <Pluk> just dont use --force-overwrite lightly
[05:21] <Pluk> but in this case it fixed the mozilla problem
[05:21] <apokryphos> Pluk: I think it's better to remove the current firefox, and just install the one that's now in main
[05:22] <ions> any idea on X not starting after upgrading to Breezy?  It's complaining about fonts
[05:22] <Pluk> remove and reinstall. or overwrite .. its the same to me :)
[05:22] <apokryphos> not if the packages provide different files :P
[05:22] <mirak> hi
[05:22] <apokryphos> ions: x-common error?
[05:22] <zael> any easy way to fix refresh rate problem? I can't even find my monitor on the net, only bugzilla reports
[05:22] <ions> yeah
[05:22] <mirak> I am trying to install MAME, but it doesn't install anything
[05:23] <apokryphos> ions: sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common*.deb
[05:23] <Seveas> ah damn...
[05:23] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> anyone know how to fix ICE error the one that kicks you out of gnome 10 seconds after you log in?
[05:24] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> Seveas: you know how to fix the ICE error?
[05:25] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> does anyone?
[05:25] <Seveas> ChurcH_of_FoamY, login in text mode and rm -r ~/.ICEauthority ~/.Xauthority /tmp/*
[05:25] <Seveas> (as normal user, NOT as root)
[05:25] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> kk
[05:25] <apollo2011> hi everyone
[05:26] <apollo2011> I can't upgrade Firefox because it is trying to upgrade "mozilla-firefox" and" mozilla-firefox-gnomesupport" when "firefox" and "firefox-gnomesupport" are still installed, and these packages need to be uninstalled first
[05:26] <Seveas> apokryphos, read topic
[05:26] <mirak> hi
[05:26] <mirak> I can't find xmame on ubuntu ppc
[05:26] <Seveas> apollo2011(
[05:27] <edgarin> hi
[05:27] <apokryphos> Seveas: eh?
[05:27] <Turms_> i've upgraded to breezy, now x fails to start, it ha problems with fonts, is it a known issue or just a problem of mine?
[05:27] <Seveas> apokryphos, <tab> error :)
[05:27] <Cody`> Turms_: sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common*.deb
[05:27] <apokryphos> ah, ok
[05:27] <apollo2011> Im just using the Ubuntu packages
[05:28] <denn_> i just installed pan newreader and i want to add it to that gnome Application menu on top? how do i do that?
[05:28] <edgarin> howto install project64 __
[05:28] <edgarin> ??
[05:28] <Turms_> Cody`: thanks :-)
[05:28] <Seveas> apollo2011, no you used backports
[05:28] <apollo2011> no i did not
[05:28] <Cody`> I'm not it's not running for me either
[05:28] <apollo2011> I haven't changed the firefox packages since I installed Ubuntu 3 mths ago
[05:28] <Seveas> yes you did otherwise this would not happen.
[05:28] <Cody`> so it's not just backports
[05:28] <sorush20> guys I keep getting this error and I can't fix it can somone help please.. I don't want to have to reinstall firefox, I can't run firefox since this error appeared.. E: /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/var/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions.d/00classic', which is also in package firefox
[05:28] <apollo2011> and I didn't add the backport repo until a month ago
[05:29] <Cody`> sorush20: see topic
[05:29] <apollo2011> if it auto installed something thats not my fault
[05:29] <Seveas> sorush20, /topic
[05:29] <apollo2011> w3hat do I have to do to fix this?
[05:29] <Seveas> apollo2011, , of course it is - you enabled it
[05:29] <apollo2011> I don't care what you say
[05:30] <apollo2011> I didn't enable any firefox packages other than upgrading them since I installed Ubuntu
[05:30] <sorush20> Seveas: Cody` are you saying I should upgrade..
[05:30] <dylan_> why does cd burning in linux take so much longer than it does on windows?  is there a fix for this issue?
[05:31] <^DodGeR^> what u using to burn dylan_  ?
[05:31] <Seveas> sorush20, dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common*deb should work
[05:31] <^DodGeR^> gnomebaker took me like 2 minutes to write a cd
[05:31] <dylan_> ^DodGeR^, graveman
[05:31] <Seveas> maybe combined with dpkg --configure --pending
[05:31] <ions> I am still having the font issue - X still will not start
[05:31] <apollo2011> Which are the real packages? mozilla-firefox or firefox?
[05:31] <dylan_> ^DodGeR^, i have a 52x cd burner and copying a cd takes for goddamn ever
[05:31] <Cody`> sorush20: remove backports from sources.list then apt-get update, then uninstall your backports copy of firefox and then reinstall ubuntu firefox package
[05:31] <^DodGeR^> maybe try gnome baker dylan_
[05:31] <^DodGeR^> and ull want to see if u have DMA enabled for the drives
[05:32] <Seveas> sorush20, euh discard my last line, mixing up people there :)
[05:32] <dylan_> ^DodGeR^, i did.....and i have dma enabled on all my drives.
[05:32] <^DodGeR^> then use gnomebaker :)
[05:32] <^DodGeR^> that wroked for me
[05:32] <^DodGeR^> superfast
[05:32] <apollo2011> Which are the real packages? mozilla-firefox or firefox?
[05:32] <dylan_> its been 10 minutes and im still only 150mb out of 720mb written
[05:32] <joenilson> hi anyone can say me if ubuntu has memory limits?, cuz i have a Sempron 3000+ with 2Gb memory and only see 990Mb of memory
[05:32] <^DodGeR^> ouch
[05:32] <Cody`> apollo2011: do you have backports in your sources.list?
[05:32] <Seveas> joenilson, apt-get install linux-k7
[05:32] <^DodGeR^> i burnt 600Mb in like 2 minutes or so iirc
[05:32] <Seveas> and reboot into that kernel
[05:32] <denn_> anyone know how to add icons to gnome Applications menu on top?
[05:32] <apollo2011> Cody`: yes
[05:32] <pmjdebruijn> I have two application in which I've dragged my toolbar outside of the application as a standalone window... but now I can't merge it back in? Does anybody have a clue on how to do that?
[05:33] <pmjdebruijn> If I drag it above the application, it'll just hover over it... the toolbar won't snap back...
[05:33] <dylan_> ^DodGeR^, is there a setting that im missing or something? is there a driver?  what can i do?
[05:33] <joenilson> Seveas, what means k7?
[05:33] <Cody`> apollo2011: comment them out, then remove all of their firefox packages(they end itn bp1 I think) and then install firefox from synaptic
[05:33] <^DodGeR^> no sure dylan_ , if u ahve dma enabled, im guessing it just depends how good the writing software ..
[05:33] <pmjdebruijn> joenilson, amd athlon or better
[05:33] <Seveas> joenilson, AMD CPUs :)
[05:33] <Cody`> if that doesn't let firefox run, then you are in my boat
[05:33] <Cody`> I have to run firefox as root now :(
[05:33] <apollo2011> Cody`: well both package sets I see for Firefox end in ubp1
[05:33] <Seveas> Cody`, don't
[05:34] <Seveas> killall -q firefox-bin
[05:34] <Seveas> (as normal user or root)
[05:34] <apollo2011> Cody`: never mind
[05:34] <Seveas> maybe cleaning out ~/.mozilla helps too
[05:34] <Seveas> apollo2011, those are backports
[05:34] <Cody`> TY Seveas
[05:34] <sorush20> Seveas: this doesn't work dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common*deb, I get this error.. http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2490,  Cody` after removing backport and installing from ubuntu should I add back ports again..
[05:34] <denn_> anyone know how to add icons to gnome Applications menu on top? is it even possible?
[05:34] <dylan_> Seveas, can you help me please with my cd writing issue.  my cd drives dont burn as fast as they do on windows
[05:34] <Cody`> sorush20: just don't update firefox when you do
[05:34] <GeekWar> PieD: any luck?
[05:35] <Seveas> sorush20, no don't add it back
[05:35] <apollo2011> Seveas: I know they are backport, but something must have selected them as a dependency etc. because I know I didnt select them
[05:35] <ompaul> Seveas, I got four words for ya, no firefox when root
[05:35] <Seveas> apollo2011, bullshit.
[05:35] <apollo2011> thats all Im saying
[05:35] <PieD> GeekWar: sorry ?
[05:35] <Seveas> ompaul, my kind of thinking :)
[05:35] <GeekWar> PieD: Any luck?
[05:35] <joenilson> pmjdebruijn, Seveas thanks i will install them, and other problem i have a K7 pcchips mobo and ubuntu see the via soundcard but i can listen any sound, but the alsamixer says that all volumes are high
[05:35] <neighborlee> should I wait for xfonts-base fix or is it safe to use the --force fix from forum ???
[05:35] <cajun> i am unable to delete files from my desktop.  I keep getting the message that I do not have permissions.  I used chmod to give the user and the group rwx for the Desktop folder and all *.jpg and *.JPG files in the folder
[05:35] <Pickle_Weasel> how would i go about updating to the badger beta? >.>
[05:35] <PieD> GeekWar: luck with what ?
[05:35] <Seveas> neighborlee, --force-overwrite is safe on x-common
[05:36] <Seveas> Pickle_Weasel, not.
[05:36] <PieD> I'm going to buy that laptop, I didn't already buy it
[05:36] <apollo2011> Seveas: the bp one says that mozilla-firefox depends on it, so it probably got selected when it upgraded mozilla-firefox last
[05:36] <Seveas> currently it's broken a bit
[05:36] <Pickle_Weasel> i see
[05:36] <neighborlee> Seveas, ok thx...I was doing a synaptic update and got the error so wanted to make sure
[05:36] <Pickle_Weasel> =(
[05:36] <GeekWar> PieD: Ohh ha
[05:36] <Seveas> Pickle_Weasel, ask again in a few days :)
[05:36] <PieD> but that's also needed for a friend' laptop
[05:36] <dylan_> Seveas, can you help?
[05:36] <neighborlee> Seveas, err software update ;-)
[05:37] <cr1stobal> exit
[05:37] <apollo2011> I got rid of backports but when I tell it to remove firefox, it wants to upgrade mozilla-firefox, but I can't do that because then it complains that firefox is still installed
[05:37] <Seveas> dylan_, no, I didn't burn a cd since about a year :)
[05:37] <nc> device driver is very problematic in linux. its very rare. whew, thingking..... thingking......
[05:37] <dylan_> Seveas, can you point me in the right direction of where to go then?
[05:38] <PieD> nc: linux isn't the problem
[05:38] <Xorlev> Just upgraded xorg and such from the repos, and it seems that unlike before, it won't load glx.
[05:38] <Seveas> dylan_, if I knew the right direction I would
[05:38] <PieD> the hardware makers are the problem
[05:38] <ompaul> dylan_, is this burn a CD under linux? and if so is it to burn an iso?
[05:38] <cyphase> apollo2011, see end of title
[05:39] <apollo2011> cyphase: see chat history!
[05:39] <nc> PieD:why?
[05:39] <sorush20> inf the sources.list should I uncomment all horey and add the breezy...
[05:39] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> Seveas i tryed it but it diden't work
[05:39] <nc> yeah, i got it.
[05:39] <PieD> because they don't release informations nor drivers for their hardware
[05:39] <cyphase> lol
[05:39] <Seveas> ChurcH_of_FoamY, tried what?
[05:39] <PieD> that's not our fault
[05:39] <cyphase> do you have another browser installed?
[05:39] <dylan_> ompaul, no im trying to dupe an audio CD
[05:39] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> Seveas: to fix ICE
[05:39] <^DodGeR^> nyone know what the GStreamer pipeline is for an mp3 audio profile ? cant seem to run the rythmox help for adding it
[05:39] <Seveas> ah
[05:39] <Saw^> could somebody help me a bit with getting my sounds to work? I've got SB 128 (snd_ens1371 module seems to be loaded) and artsd is running
[05:39] <jayson_I> Seveas: Can you help me to dual boot my PC winXP and ubuntu?
[05:40] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> Seveas: and it still kicks me outta gnome 10 seconds after logging in
[05:40] <nc> i finished burning the ubuntu but driver issues seems to stop me.
[05:40] <apollo2011> cyphase: I just realized I installed Opera two days ago...going...going...
[05:40] <PieD> nc: what can we do when a hardware maker doesn't want to give any information nor driver for its hardware ?
[05:40] <jayson_I> I always try to dual but i cannot succed
[05:40] <Cody`> wtf
[05:40] <Seveas> what's the exact error ChurcH_of_FoamY? Or don't you get a message?
[05:40] <Cody`> breezy fixed itself
[05:40] <dylan_> ompaul, no luck?  where do i go?
[05:40] <PieD> nc: what hardware causes a driver problem for you ?
[05:40] <Cody`> just turned it back on after 3 days of not working it X started :)
[05:40] <jayson_I> i always install 1st the winXP
[05:40] <nc> the webcam.
[05:40] <PieD> on my computer, I've no driver to install with breezy :)
[05:40] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it does give me an error thats simmialar to what happens when you install k3b in breezy
[05:41] <david__> spanish?
[05:41] <nc> PieD: whoa thats pretty cool huh!
[05:41] <Seveas> !es
[05:41] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:41] <misfit_toy> Cody`, did that udev command work?
[05:41] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> Seveas: if u where to wright it down it would take me a while
[05:41] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> Seveas: if i where
[05:41] <dylan_> ompaul, please help!  :(
[05:41] <sorush20> wouldn't it be a great Idea if the sources.list file could be updated automatically instead of us haveing to do it..
[05:41] <Seveas> sorush20, no, that would be evil
[05:42] <sorush20> Seveas: why?
[05:42] <misfit_toy> Seveas, is x-common fixed yet? as in safe to update today?
[05:42] <ompaul> dylan_, I have not done that with linux only isos for distribution
[05:42] <Seveas> but I just thought of a great idea sorush20
[05:42] <Cody`> misfit_toy: haven't tried yet. I turned the comp on yesterday and updated via commandline and it didn't work, so I just shut it off and went back to workin on my server,t urned it on today and it worked :)
[05:42] <jayson_I> anyone can help me?
[05:42] <dylan_> ompaul, is there a driver that i can install to make my CDs write fastser?
[05:42] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> Seveas: all i know for shure is that it has something to do with ICE crapping out after 10 seconds and kicking me outta gnome back into the login screen
[05:43] <sorush20> Seveas: what was your great Idean
[05:43] <sorush20> Seveas: what was your great Idea
[05:43] <cr1stobal> after following cyphase's blog instructions and removing backports without fixing mozilla... I rebooted my laptop and now mozilla works.... cyphase's instructions must work but for some reason i had to reboot to make firefox launch properly, no idea why
[05:43] <SQFreak> My computer only recognizes the first 1GB of my 1.5GB of RAM according to /proc/meminfo. I'm using kernel 2.6.13-rc3-mm1 compiled for a Pentium M (which is what I have). Any suggestions on how to get it to recognize the rest of my RAM?
[05:43] <Xorlev> SQFreak: You have to enable high memory support in the kernel.
[05:43] <cyphase> cr1stobal, yea, a lot of people are having that problem
[05:43] <ompaul> dylan_, ehh no, you might want to burn slower as that influences the quality and can break the burn leaving you with a coaster
[05:43] <nc> what should i do? i cant find the driver for my webcam. this is the last hindrance to start my linux installation.
[05:44] <cyphase> i think it has to do with apt corrupting itself
[05:44] <cyphase> maybe..
[05:44] <cyphase> just a guess
[05:44] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> Seveas: it seems to happen after it trys to update stuff
[05:44] <dylan_> ompaul, really?  so the way Windows XP burns CDs is actually bad?
[05:44] <cr1stobal> i'm guessing that restarting gnome would have the same effect, but someone else will have to test that theory...
[05:44] <cyphase> ooooohh
[05:44] <puterfixer> hello, everyone.
[05:44] <ompaul> dylan_, I don't know windows
[05:44] <cyphase> i know what it is
[05:44] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> Seveas: and after you install k3b >.< which i have to stop doing
[05:44] <ompaul> dylan_, but from what I hear it is very bad at lots of things
[05:44] <sorush20> so horey is off and breezy is on
[05:45] <cr1stobal> cyphase, what's that?
[05:45] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> Seveas: any ideas?
[05:45] <cynicle> hey can someone help me, im an utter noob is ubuntu redhat, mandrake, source or wat!? im trying to download the latest gaim
[05:45] <puterfixer> gentlemen, I'm trying to compile my own saa7134 module for the TV tuner from the CVS, I'm following the instructions here: http://linuxtv.org/v4lwiki/index.php/How_to_build_from_CVS . they mention compiling the kernel... do I really need to do that?
[05:46] <x4m> SQFreak,  http://66.249.93.104/search?q=cache:qFVsF5tXUisJ:www.cpqlinux.com/memory.html+%2Blinux+%2Bmem%3D&hl=fr&lr=&client=firefox&strip=1
[05:46] <pmjdebruijn> cynicle, please just stay with the ubuntu supplied packages, it'll save you a lot of grief...
[05:46] <ompaul> Seveas, a spec that generated an apt.conf might be a good idea to lock stuff to the first installed version and moves this along with dist upgrade
[05:46] <cynicle> ok then
[05:46] <cr1stobal> gaim should be available via synaptic
[05:46] <{CyberFreak}> can anyone help me with the sound on breezy ubuntu ??
[05:47] <jayson_I> helooo anyone can help me?
[05:47] <{CyberFreak}> i cant do it working with the 2.6.12 kernel
[05:47] <cynicle> if i want to download a program for ubuntu will any linux program work
[05:47] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok so no one has any idea how to fix the ICE error?
[05:47] <{CyberFreak}> works with 2.6.10
[05:47] <puterfixer> cynicle, add the Breezy repositories in Synaptic and you will have access to GAIM 1.6 compiled for Ubuntu.
[05:47] <sorush20> ompaul: what is it that you are talking about..
[05:47] <jayson_I> how to dual boot winXP and ubuntu?
[05:48] <cynicle> i use gnome
[05:48] <pmjdebruijn> cynicle, generally yes
[05:48] <cynicle> so whats synaptic?
[05:48] <shaoqi> hi. how do i set vlc as my default video player? thanks
[05:48] <ompaul> sorush20, well when the _man_ (not using his name to stop him wasting time reading this) said he was off to do a spec and I passed him a comment on something that came to me
[05:48] <puterfixer> cynicle: System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager. it's a package manager, sort of an "Add/Remove Programs"
[05:49] <cynicle> your my hero puterfixer, thanks
[05:49] <dbzdeath> lol great... my mate just goes that he doesn't like the way kubuntu uses kde and that it isn't the normal way a distro uses it...
[05:50] <shaoqi> hi. how do i set vlc as my default video player? thanks. anyone?
[05:50] <SpudULike> How can I tell what is using port 631 on my system. I'm having a bit of a cups problem.
[05:50] <ompaul> asks a question and goes - arrrrrrrrrrr
[05:51] <cynicle> grrr now its telling me i have a broken package i must fix, how do i go around doing that?
[05:51] <ompaul> SpudULike, to configure a printer one can "system - administartion - printing"
[05:51] <shaoqi> hi. how do i set vlc as my default video player? thanks. anyone?
[05:52] <misfit_toy> Seveas, is x-common fixed yet? as in safe to update today?
[05:52] <Cody`> misfit_toy:try this? sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common*.deb
[05:53] <ompaul> misfit_toy, I believe this is they way  sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.08_all.de
[05:53] <shaoqi> anyone can help me?
[05:53] <ompaul> there is a b at the end of that
[05:53] <Saw^> could somebody help me a bit with getting my sounds to work? I've got SB 128 (snd_ens1371 module seems to be loaded) and artsd is running. Still I can't get any sounds out
[05:53] <misfit_toy> I do that *before* the update?
[05:53] <apokryphos> shaoqi: no need to repeat
[05:53] <SpudULike> ompaul: No I can't, that's one of the 'issues' I'm having with Cups.
[05:53] <apokryphos> shaoqi: if someome is able/willing ot help, they will.
[05:54] <cyphase> Added a comment to my blog post so people don't need to restart to fix Firefox : http://cyphase.homelinux.com/
[05:54] <shaoqi> apokryphos, alright then
[05:54] <ompaul> SpudULike, to do some digging use lsof
[05:55] <ompaul> SpudULike, list open files it looks at ports also and netstat -an and some other stuff
[05:56] <puterfixer> cvs: command not found. ha?
[05:57] <apokryphos> puterfixer: idea! Install it
[05:57] <puterfixer> yeah, I'm on it :)
[05:58] <puterfixer> do I really need to recompile the kernel before compiling a newer version of the saa7134 module for my tv tuner?
[05:59] <gangalee> Anyone been able to upgrade Gaim on Hoary?
[05:59] <XoloX> Hi all. Just installed Breeze Badger 5.10 Preview Release, which I downloaded yesterday. On first boot it offers me 338 (!) package updates, totalling 224 MB. I don't mind this (Cable connection) but are there already this much updates? It's not trying to downgrade or apply patches from 5.02 or something?
[06:00] <Seveas> XoloX, sounds about right
[06:00] <Seveas> X and openoffice had updates
[06:00] <XoloX> Hehe
[06:00] <othernoob> mmh, cdrecord recognizes my dvdrw as 4x while it actually is a 8x, any way to fix this?
[06:00] <Kira> Good morning.
[06:00] <masterra_> Morning
[06:01] <Ng> XoloX: it's churning a lot at the moment because there are lots of bugs being fixed atm
[06:01] <Kira> Quick question: If I would like to dual-boot Windows XP + Ubuntu, which order of installation would make my life easier?
[06:01] <XoloX> OK, thanks for your quick help, I'll just go ahead and apply the updates! Cheers!
[06:01] <othernoob> Kira: xp then ubuntu
[06:01] <Ng> XoloX: after release it will quieten down a lot :)
[06:01] <Asenath> Thanks othernoob I was wondering about this as well
[06:01] <XoloX> Ng: OK, I know what I'm doing (running a preview release), I was just afraid it would apply the wrong set of patches.
[06:01] <krneki> hay
[06:01] <XoloX> Thanks again
[06:01] <Ng> XoloX: :)
[06:01] <othernoob> you're welcome
[06:01] <krneki> how can i change group for one user
[06:02] <nir-> hi
[06:02] <Seveas> krneki, be a bit more specific...
[06:02] <krneki> i want to give someone admin right
[06:02] <krneki> but i want to do this in terminal
[06:02] <Kira> thanks othernoob
[06:02] <nir-> iv just add another computer to my home network, iv got a ping to it , but i cant telnet it ..
[06:02] <nir-> what could be the reason
[06:03] <Seveas> krneki, sudo adduser some_username admin
[06:03] <masterra_> Can anyone help me with sound in Breezy? I installed, everything went well, and everything is working great, except gnome says i have no sound.. but catting something into /dev/dsp gives plenty of sound.. so something is misconfigured in gnome?
[06:03] <nir-> i getting Connection refused err msg
[06:03] <Asenath> I am currently sitting at my windows machine wondering whether to give Ubuntu a try or not since Fedora would install but not boot for some reason
[06:03] <Seveas> nir-, telnet is very unsafe
[06:03] <apokryphos> krneki: or, you can just add them to sudoers now
[06:03] <krneki> i am what about if user already exist
[06:03] <Seveas> and probably not even installed on the destination machine :)
[06:03] <nir-> its in my home network
[06:03] <nir-> for testigg purpuse
[06:03] <Seveas> krneki, that's ok, adduser username groupname adds user username to group groupname
[06:03] <krneki> ok
[06:04] <Seveas> nir-, even then you should use ssh :)
[06:04] <nir-> i'll use SSH if its bother :)
[06:04] <nir-> yea i know... :)
[06:04] <nir-> but i have only two machines here , my xp , and ubuntu :)
[06:04] <dylan_> how do i change the buffer usage when im burning a cd?
[06:04] <nir-> why i get connection refused ?
[06:04] <nir-> myabe bcz hosts.alow ?
[06:05] <dylan_> did you guys get my message?
[06:06] <krneki> i set that one directory is gruop owned by admin
[06:06] <Seveas> nir-, by default no ssh or telnet daemon is installed
[06:06] <nir-> oh :)
[06:06] <nir-> so how i enable it ?
[06:06] <Seveas> so apt-get install openssh-server
[06:06] <krneki> and do chmod +gw -R *
[06:06] <jayson_I> any programming language in ubuntu has a gui?
[06:06] <Seveas> and use putty on your windows machine for ssh :)
[06:06] <GnuKemist> jayson_I, c#
[06:06] <matrix> how do i switch drive in cmd line ?
[06:06] <nir-> thanks :)
[06:06] <krneki> but still admin group can't make new subdirectories
[06:06] <GnuKemist> jayson_I, java
[06:06] <jayson_I> where i can download it?
[06:06] <Seveas> krneki, g+w
[06:06] <Seveas> not +gw
[06:07] <nir-> i thought that SSH/TELNET daemons are by deafult
[06:07] <krneki> aha
[06:07] <GnuKemist> jayson_I, check out monodevelop
[06:07] <dylan_> how do i change the amount of buffer usage when im burning a cd?
[06:07] <GnuKemist> jayson_I, or Eclipse
[06:07] <Seveas> nir-, no, that's against the no-open-port-by-default poilicy
[06:07] <jayson_I> GnuKemist: Ok i will try
[06:07] <GnuKemist> jayson_I, good luck
[06:08] <dylan_> cause right now im only using 3% of my entire buffer
[06:08] <nir-> do u know if debian supprts that policy ?
[06:10] <cynicle> hey do you guys know howto access your files stored in a windows NTFS partion with ubuntu?
[06:10] <cynicle> or if you even can
[06:11] <MindChild> dylan_: it will use as much as it needs
[06:11] <Seveas> !ntfs
[06:11] <ubotu> hmm... ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.
[06:11] <dylan_> MindChild, does the buffer determine how fast the CD burns?
[06:11] <masterra_> Can anyone direct me to some info on getting sound working in gnome?
[06:12] <MindChild> dylan_: not at all.... it is there so you dont get a buffer underrun
[06:12] <Asenath> ubotu can you only SEE the files on the NTFS partition or also edit them then
[06:12] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, Asenath
[06:12] <tomb_> Can anyone help me setup vncserver so I get a login screen when I connect to it
[06:12] <AMDfanboy> howdy, i want to back up my evolution email.  in my home directory i found a folder called ".evolution" is that where my mail is?
[06:12] <MindChild> Can someone help me with remastering a livecd? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=68594
[06:12] <dylan_> MindChild, so how do i change the speed....im burning qutie slowly compared to windows.
[06:12] <Asenath> Oops haha
[06:12] <shane24> when I set up ubuntu, it never asked me for an admin password.  Now I cannot su because I don't know the pass.  Is there somewhere to set that?
[06:12] <puterfixer> grrrr, can't compile, need kernel sources. darnit.
[06:12] <Skid> install em? :)
[06:13] <jayson_I> GnuKemist: it is compatible in ubuntu and WinXP?
[06:13] <Schpenke> shane24, use: sudo su -
[06:13] <GnuKemist> jayson_I, yup...  I'm assuming you're talking about c# and monodevelop
[06:13] <MindChild> shane24: Ubuntu doesnt use root.The first user can SUDO though, so sudo su
[06:14] <GnuKemist> jayson_I, as a matter of fact, any non-GUI c# code you compile in Linux WILL run as-is in Windows
[06:14] <thegeekdom> I have an install question.  I have a ibm laptop with floppy and nic.  I want to get off the old slackware and on to ubuntu.  Without a CD, how do I do this.   I do have broadband.
[06:14] <AMDfanboy> i looked for mbox files but couldnt find anything, the files that look like they are my mail don't have mbox extensions
[06:14] <shane24> sudu su?
[06:14] <shane24> sudo
[06:15] <shane24> cool, thanks
[06:15] <dylan_> how do i change the speed at which my CD burns?
[06:15] <dbzdeath> sudo -i
[06:15] <dbzdeath> works
[06:15] <cynicle> how do you save text as a program? :S
[06:16] <AMDfanboy> howdy, i want to back up my evolution email.  in my home directory i found a folder called ".evolution" is that where my mail is? - sorry to ask again
[06:16] <dbzdeath> cynicle: save it as a .sh?
[06:16] <XoloX> Hi. Back already. Just tried applying the updates. I get the error "E: /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.08_all.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/X11/fonts', which is also in package xfonts-base". Any chance of me fixing this or should I just wait for the package to be fixed? If so, any chance of applying the remaining updates that don't depend on x-common?
[06:16] <cynicle> thanks
[06:16] <zpao> ok, so i saw this asked above, but there was no response... can NTFS partitions be written in ubuntu?
[06:17] <Seveas> XoloX, dpkg -i --fix-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.08_all.deb
[06:17] <dbzdeath> zpao: you can have write access to a NTFS partition using captive ntfs
[06:17] <Seveas> --force-overwite i mean
[06:17] <XoloX> Seveas: Thanks, I'll try that
[06:17] <cynicle> i type in sudo bash winmac_fstab and it says no such file or directory, where should i be puting the program?
[06:17] <thegeekdom> I have an ibm laptop with a floppy and nic.  how do I install ubuntu on it ?
[06:17] <Seveas> dbzdeath, did you ever get that to work on ubuntu?
[06:17] <Madeye> guys I have (dev/hda7) partition and /dev/hdb1/ another hdd, both are ext3 but both not mounted, any idea?
[06:17] <dbzdeath> Seveas: nope... thats why i never said in ubuntu :)
[06:17] <nir-> Seveas: is telnet daemon is installed by default ? and if yes how i can open it ?
[06:17] <dbzdeath> but i never tried
[06:18] <MindChild> Can someone help me with remastering a livecd? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=68594 (I am desperate, so this message is on a timer)
[06:18] <bystander> nir-, no
[06:18] <zpao> dbzdeath: ah, so not in ubuntu is this really possible?
[06:18] <dbzdeath> nir-: shouldn't use telnet.. unless absolutely necessary.. should use ssh instead
[06:18] <dbzdeath> zpao: it works in knoppix...
[06:18] <cynicle> where is this bash folder?
[06:18] <Seveas> nir-, it is not and don't install it
[06:18] <Seveas> use ssh
[06:19] <GnuKemist> zpao, I've done it with knoppix and dsl
[06:19] <tomb_> Can anyone help me setup vncserver so I get a login screen when I connect to it
[06:19] <masterra_> Can anyone direct me to some info on getting sound working in gnome?
[06:19] <Seveas> tomb_, use freenx for that
[06:19] <Seveas> it kicks vncs ass
[06:19] <dbzdeath> telnet = horrible :(
[06:19] <GnuKemist> masterra_, don't mean to ask the obvious but... did you unmute the sound?
[06:20] <tomb_> Seveas is it available via apt?
[06:20] <cynicle> what does this command line do sudo bash winmac_fstab
[06:20] <cynicle> where is that directory?
[06:20] <Seveas> tomb_, hoary or breezy?
[06:20] <tomb_> hoary
[06:20] <Seveas> deb http://ubuntulinux.nl/ ./
[06:20] <AMDfanboy> howdy, i want to back up my evolution email.  in my home directory i found a folder called ".evolution" is that where my mail is? - sorry to ask again
[06:20] <bystander> cynicle, winmac_fstab is wherever you put it
[06:20] <GnuKemist> cynicle, the command runs the winmac_fstab script
[06:20] <dbzdeath> tomb_: tightvnc-server ? i think the package is called... i use tightvnc
[06:21] <GnuKemist> cynicle, it assumes the script is at the same folder level you are
[06:21] <dbzdeath> tightvncserver my bad
[06:21] <esac> how do i get into text mode in order to install nvidia driver
[06:21] <XoloX> Seveas: Thanks alot, it *seems* to be fixed
[06:21] <cynicle> why does it say no such file or directory then?
[06:21] <stpere> esac, press CTRL+ALT+F1
[06:21] <cynicle> im confused
[06:21] <tomb_> trying this freenx first :)
[06:21] <masterra_> GnuKemist: well, the sound control on the top gnome panel has an X by it, and when i click it it says "no volume control devices were found"
[06:21] <TTilus> AMDfanboy: don't really know, but i would guess that not
[06:21] <GnuKemist> esac, there's no need though
[06:22] <bystander> cynicle, because you are in the wrong directory
[06:22] <dbzdeath> indeed
[06:22] <GnuKemist> esac, I'm sure you can just apt-get it
[06:22] <dbzdeath> install the ubuntu package
[06:22] <dbzdeath> don't manually install it
[06:22] <cynicle> so where do i put the file?
[06:22] <neuling> is there any possibility to install w32codecs on breezy?
[06:22] <TTilus> AMDfanboy: you can found your mail propably from ~/Mail ~/mail ~/Maildir or something like that
[06:22] <GnuKemist> neuling, yes
[06:22] <esac> GnuKemist: i built my own kernel, i have to make sure it compiles clean with this kernel config
[06:22] <dbzdeath> neuling: if your on i386 then yes
[06:22] <TTilus> AMDfanboy: .evolution holds propably evolution settings
[06:22] <jayson_I> GnuKemist: I'm trying now to read the facts about monoDevelop
[06:22] <dbzdeath> neuling: just add the hoary-extras repository
[06:23] <GnuKemist> esac, follow stpere's advice
[06:23] <MindChild> Can someone help me with remastering a livecd? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=68594 (I am desperate, so this message is on a timer)
[06:23] <TTilus> AMDfanboy: you may want to back it up too  :D
[06:23] <neuling> ok, thanks (yes, it is i386)
[06:23] <jayson_I> co'z i'm migrating now to ubuntu from winXP
[06:23] <dbzdeath> neuling: it is a hoary package... but should work
[06:23] <cynicle> i got it thanks bystander
[06:24] <jayson_I> i'm finding now a replacement to my VB6/.NET.
[06:24] <GnuKemist> jayson_I, I haven't used monodevelop at the moment b/c it depends on some bleeding edge mono stuff which I haven't gotten to work yet
[06:24] <GnuKemist> jayson_I, but it will in stable
[06:24] <apsync> hi, how can I know how much memory (RAM) I have?
[06:24] <Skid> ok quick question, how can I SOLEY update apt ?
[06:24] <dbzdeath> apsync: free -m
[06:24] <GnuKemist> jayson_I, mono has VB.NET compiler too
[06:25] <jayson_I> what's? cool..
[06:25] <jayson_I> :)
[06:25] <GnuKemist> jayson_I, hehehe
[06:25] <GnuKemist> jayson_I, c# compiler:  mcs   vb.net: mbas
[06:25] <jayson_I> how about eclipse.. i cannot found any screen shoots
[06:25] <GnuKemist> jayson_I, haven't used eclipse but have you tried google images?
[06:25] <zeno> do you know the port of this server to use SSL?
[06:26] <tomb_> Seveas, what do I do once freenx is installed?
[06:26] <Seveas> tomb_, sudo nxserver --adduser $USER
[06:26] <GnuKemist> tomb_, man freenx?
[06:26] <Seveas> tomb_, sudo nxserver --passwd $USER
[06:26] <Seveas> and download an NX client from nomachine.com on the machine you want to connect from
[06:26] <dbzdeath> zeno: 6668 i think?
[06:26] <cynicle> hey can anyone tell me how this program works http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[06:26] <cynicle> how do i look at all my files after running it
[06:27] <zeno> dbzdeath: do you think or do you know?
[06:27] <dbzdeath> zeno: its a guess lol
[06:27] <Seveas> cynicle, that thing mounts your windows drives in /mnt
[06:27] <Seveas> sorry in /media
[06:27] <zeno> dbzdeath: generally the port is 9999
[06:27] <jayson_I> GnuKemist: ok i will try to find
[06:27] <bystander> cynicle, Places - Computer
[06:27] <cynicle> ahh thanks
[06:27] <dbzdeath> zeno: most of the irc servers i go on use 6668 *shrugs*
[06:28] <MindChild> Can someone help me with remastering a livecd? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=68594 (I am desperate, so this message is on a timer)
[06:28] <zeno> dbzdeath tnx
[06:28] <zeno> i'll try
[06:28] <jayson_I> GnuKemist: what language they are used to develop monoDevelop?
[06:28] <dbzdeath> ya worth a shot
[06:28] <kemik> 6667-6669 is standard
[06:28] <kemik> zeno:  9999 is not a standard irc-port afaik
[06:28] <Seveas> kemik, it is for IRC-ssl
[06:28] <kemik> not for ssl or regular connections
[06:28] <GnuKemist> jayson_I, entirely c# written
[06:28] <kemik> wasnt it 7000 ?
[06:28] <GnuKemist> jayson_I, ;)
[06:28] <zeno> kemik: 9999 is for SSL
[06:29] <GnuKemist> jayson_I, http://lemonodor.com/archives/images/eclipse-lisp-2.jpg
[06:29] <ompaul> dbzdeath, usually the client knocks on 6667 and gets told the port to use usually 6667/8/9/70
[06:29] <cynicle> ok now how do i make shortcuts on the desktop in ubuntu
[06:29] <dylan_> why use linux over mac os x?
[06:29] <sorush20> the update to breezy is taking a very long time...
[06:29] <kemik> hmmm
[06:30] <Juhaz> dylan_, because we like getting trolled by people like you
[06:30] <apokryphos> sorush20: install or download?
[06:30] <dbzdeath> [00:29]  --- Connection failed. Error: (336130315) error:1408F10B:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_RECORD:wrong version number
[06:30] <dbzdeath> [00:29]  Are you sure this is a SSL capable server and port?
[06:30] <dylan_> Juhaz, im really sorry...ill leave
[06:30] <TokenBad> what is command in ubuntu to remove a dir and all its sub dirs?
[06:30] <apokryphos> TokenBad: rm
[06:30] <blekos> grrr...
[06:30] <GnuKemist> cynicle, right-click desktop --> create launcher
[06:30] <dbzdeath> TokenBad: rm -r
[06:30] <cynicle> ok then what
[06:30] <GnuKemist> follow the screen dude
[06:30] <blekos> i've followed every single instruction and installed everything needed (i think)
[06:30] <GnuKemist> cynicle, follow the screen dude
[06:30] <bystander> cynicle, type in the command for your program
[06:31] <blekos> when I play a divx and ff it loses sync
[06:31] <jayson_I> GnuKemist: how about eclipse what langauge are they using?
[06:31] <dbzdeath> zeno: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml
[06:31] <blekos> when i try to play a DVD it lags...
[06:31] <blekos> any ideas?
[06:31] <GnuKemist> jayson_I, I'm pretty sure it is all java
[06:31] <bystander> cynicle, to choose an icon clickthe icon box
[06:31] <zeno> dbzdeath: tnx very much... i'm just reading it
[06:31] <kemik> eclipse is written in java
[06:31] <dbzdeath> Does freenode provide SSL-based client access?  Not at present. We did have a server set up as a testbed for a while, but we probably won't provide SSL on a consistent basis until we can provide end-to-end encryption.
[06:31] <GnuKemist> blekos, which app are you using?
[06:31] <dbzdeath> no ssl .. sorry
[06:31] <blekos> totem...
[06:31] <cynicle> sorry im a noob i got it
[06:31] <apsync> hi, can I see the Temperature somewhere in linux of my cpu?
[06:31] <GnuKemist> blekos, try it with xine
[06:31] <Kira> I need help with the Wiki.
[06:32] <zeno> apsync: acpi -t
[06:32] <GnuKemist> blekos, totem also lags here
[06:32] <apsync> thanks
[06:32] <pudland> blekos:  sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdd
[06:32] <jayson_I> maybe it alot cool the monoDevelop rather than eclipse
[06:32] <Kira> I just created a new account and I think I need to give it my public key.
[06:32] <GnuKemist> jayson_I, a newer interface for .NET is in development as we type
[06:32] <pudland> blekos:  the above worked 100% for me
[06:32] <jayson_I> GnuKemist: co'z it is more easy to develop in VB lang rather than C lang.
[06:33] <MindChild> Can someone help me with remastering a livecd? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=68594 (I am desperate, so this message is on a timer)
[06:33] <blekos> i'll give it a shot
[06:33] <GnuKemist> jayson_I, I happen to think the opposite
[06:33] <dbzdeath> python > VB :P
[06:33] <kemik> actually it seems that 994 is the "standard" IRC-ssl port
[06:33] <esac> ok you cant use ctrl+alt+f1 to install nvidia. it needs no X running session. how can i get into plain text mode
[06:33] <Seveas> timers /repeating are so not allowed in here..
[06:33] <pudland> blekos:  i had to do that for xine
[06:33] <GnuKemist> jayson_I, and (c#) it will give you a chance for true portability
[06:33] <dbzdeath> kemik: but no one uses it :P
[06:33] <blekos> is it DL?
[06:33] <pgavin> is anyone having trouble with getting gnome to start in freenx? I can get kde to start, but not gnome
[06:33] <cynicle> i went to create launcher but it wants to launch a program, i just want a link to open up a folder
[06:33] <blekos> dl
[06:33] <jayson_I> GnuKemist: here in philippine the microsoft attack the internet cafe and offices they confiscate and they charge a penalty for the pirated winXP
[06:34] <blekos> what does it do?
[06:34] <GnuKemist> jayson_I, ouch
[06:34] <esac> jayson_I: good for them
[06:34] <jayson_I> so internet cafe's now are switching linux distribution now here
[06:34] <bystander> Seveas, might have been a nice gesture to ask him yo turn it off before banning him...
[06:34] <kemik> dbzdeath:  mmh, i've only seen 7k ports for SSL ;) and i saw 3 servers use 9999, but never been on those networks ;)
[06:34] <GnuKemist> esac, I believe you can use telinit
[06:34] <Kira> What kind of key pair do I need for the Ubuntu wiki?
[06:34] <Seveas> bystander, it wasn't a ban, just a mute
[06:34] <esac> GnuKemist: already tried it , cant get it to work
[06:34] <Kira> DSA and Elgamal, DSA, or RSA?
[06:34] <Seveas> too bad freenode now shows them as bans
[06:34] <kemik> +b seem to be mute on freenode
[06:34] <dbzdeath> kemik: i've never seen the 'standard' port used before :)
[06:34] <kemik> freenode is weird :)
[06:34] <Seveas> Kira, for the wiki you need no gpg key...
[06:35] <pudland> blekos: no its number 1
[06:35] <jayson_I> here in tacloban there is now more 10 big internet cafe now are switching linux distribution
[06:35] <GnuKemist> esac, try to press CTRL + ALT + BACKSPACE several times
[06:35] <kemik> dbzdeath:  me neither :) ... but i had to google for it to see ;)
[06:35] <cynicle> does anyone know how to create a shortcut to open up a folder and display its contents?
[06:35] <GnuKemist> esac, it WILL take you to console mode eventually
[06:35] <esac> GnuKemist: already did, keeps going back into gdm no matter how many times i press it
[06:35] <jayson_I> user's are now convensing to try linux OS.
[06:35] <WebLOCH> Is Rythymbox in the repositories?
[06:35] <kemik> pretty wide mask O_o
[06:35] <Seveas> jayson_I, lol, good for MS politics :)
[06:35] <kemik> WebLOCH:  it should be yes ;)
[06:36] <GnuKemist> jayson_I, woot then...  M$ is actually helping then
[06:36] <Seveas> WebLOCH, yes
[06:36] <WebLOCH> I cant find it
[06:36] <WebLOCH> Do you know the package name?
[06:36] <Seveas> !info rhythmbox
[06:36] <ubotu> rhythmbox: (music player and organizer for GNOME), section gnome, is optional. Version: 0.8.8-7ubuntu5 (hoary), Packaged size: 1517 kB, Installed size: 4268 kB
[06:36] <kemik> WebLOCH:  use "apt-cache search <keyword>"
[06:36] <jayson_I> each internet cafe have atleast 100+ PC each branch
[06:36] <GnuKemist> esac, can you ssh to it?
[06:36] <WebLOCH> kemik, thats what i tried
[06:36] <Kira> Seveas: in Launchpad it says I need the gpg key to sign the Ubuntu Code of Conduct. o.O
[06:36] <pudland> blekos:  if i remember correctly it sets the read ahead larger
[06:36] <Seveas> Kira, ah, but that's not the wiki :)
[06:36] <Seveas> Kira, read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
[06:36] <FR500> hi
[06:37] <blekos> i c
[06:37] <kemik> WebLOCH:  check your spelling
[06:37] <dbzdeath> jayson_I: i hope they aren't switching to redhat :P
[06:37] <XoloX> Uhm, I just tried out the "System / Administration / Boot" tool, and it deleted my Windows entries in "/boot/grub/menu.lst"... Didn't even save a backup file it seems... Where am I to report this bug?
[06:37] <WebLOCH> kemik, i did twice
[06:37] <jayson_I> so maybe I will introduce them to switch ubuntu co'z it more easy to manage and to navigate
[06:37] <FR500> i created a new user, but it doesn't have sound, how can i fix it
[06:37] <WebLOCH> ahh right
[06:37] <WebLOCH> odd, it seems to think its installed
[06:37] <zeno> dbzdeath: freenode servers don't use SSL :(
[06:37] <GnuKemist> jayson_I, and it rocks too
[06:37] <kemik> WebLOCH:  it's called "music player" inthe menu
[06:37] <dbzdeath> zeno:  i know i said that earlier
[06:37] <GnuKemist> jayson_I, ;)
[06:37] <apsync> can I burn files from a ntfs hd, with no problems?
[06:37] <kemik> WebLOCH:  Apps>>sound&stuff>Music Player
[06:37] <XoloX> FR500: Add it to the sound/audio/???  group?
[06:37] <jayson_I> GnuKemist: what you think i can help now ubuntu?
[06:37] <Seveas> FR500, give the user more privileges in the users admin
[06:38] <dbzdeath> apsync: ntfs reading is fully supported... so yes
[06:38] <kemik> WebLOCH:  and it IS in the repos... "apt-cache search rhytmbox" make sure you have the repos added and updated
[06:38] <apsync> cool, Ok
[06:38] <GnuKemist> jayson_I, how about helping out with the translation team?
[06:38] <bluekey> anyone want to help me get madwifi working on my haory
[06:38] <Cynicle> hey does anyone know how to make a shortcut to a folder?
[06:38] <XoloX> hehe
[06:38] <FR500> Seveas: it has access to everything but fax
[06:38] <WebLOCH> kemik, do and have done
[06:38] <jayson_I> GnuKemist: I cannot handle with now co'z i'm developing now a system in one company here.
[06:38] <Seveas> WebLOCH, apps -> audio video -> music player
[06:38] <GnuKemist> esac, can you ssh to it?
[06:39] <Seveas> that is rhythmbox :)
[06:39] <WebLOCH> its not listed
[06:39] <WebLOCH> but its installed
[06:39] <jayson_I> i'm just only one developing.
[06:39] <GnuKemist> jayson_I, in VB.NET?
[06:39] <WebLOCH> sdame thing happened with opera
[06:39] <WebLOCH> it was already installed
[06:39] <tomb_> blah
[06:39] <jayson_I> mybe if i have spare time.
[06:39] <WebLOCH> but not listed
[06:39] <XoloX> So no any one has any idea on the boot tool? --> "Uhm, I just tried out the "System / Administration / Boot" tool, and it deleted my Windows entries in "/boot/grub/menu.lst"... Didn't even save a backup file it seems... Where am I to report this bug?"
[06:39] <WebLOCH> GnuKemist, I've done some VB.net whats up ?
[06:39] <jayson_I> i'm already now in 60%.
[06:39] <Seveas> XoloX, what did you do that caused the deletion?
[06:40] <GnuKemist> WebLOCH, am a .NET developer myself... just asking jayson_I something related to his job  ;)
[06:40] <XoloX> I changed the label on two W2K boot entries that were added by the 5.10 installer
[06:40] <jayson_I> if i will finish i can more focus in translating.
[06:40] <WebLOCH> GnuKemist,  ahh fair enough, Im working in C# mostly
[06:40] <Seveas> GnuKemist, WebLOCH, jayson_I can you take this off-topic discussion to the off-topic channel please
[06:40] <Ivan_Drago> hi!
[06:40] <GnuKemist> WebLOCH, so am I... GUI mostly though
[06:40] <_icebreaker__> i have a problem with starting x after updateing ubuntu
[06:40] <XoloX> Through the boottoolin the GNOME menu that is
[06:40] <GnuKemist> Seveas, np
[06:41] <Ivan_Drago> how to get an ISA-based sound card to work with ubuntu?
[06:41] <test34> XoloX, did the same to me, eveytime it updates the kernel
[06:41] <GnuKemist> Seveas, jayson_I had asked about IDEs for programming under Ubuntu
[06:41] <Seveas> XoloX, that's odd indeed, best is to report it at both the ubuntu bugzilla with a clear description
[06:41] <_icebreaker__> x starts but after showing the nvidia logo it stop witch an error message
[06:41] <kemik> WebLOCH:  that sounds weird.. even tho it's installed, the apt-cache search should "reveal it"
[06:41] <XoloX> OK, it might indeed have been the update that I ran, it did install a new kernel
[06:42] <pudland> having upgrade probs with Moz-Firefox, any ideas
[06:42] <XoloX> So that is probably it
[06:42] <Seveas> test34, do not edit between BEGINA AUTOMAGIC KERNEL LIST and END AUTOMAGIC KERNEL LIST
[06:42] <jayson_I> GnuKemist: i cannot found any IDE in ubuntu mostly are in command line
[06:42] <GnuKemist> _icebreaker_, tried checking the log file?
[06:42] <kemik> pudland:  topic
[06:42] <Seveas> and you probably should not move anything there with the gnome util too
[06:42] <kemik> why doesnt ppl *Ever* read channel topics?
[06:42] <Seveas> pudland, /topic
[06:42] <kemik> *its what it's there for!"
[06:42] <sorush20> apokryphos: download..
[06:42] <test34> Seveas, I use the boot tool to add the partition, and the first time it was deleted, it was added by the ubuntu installer
[06:42] <_icebreaker__> GnuKemist i made that but i don't know where the problem is
[06:42] <pudland> duh, i didnt see that.  thanks
[06:42] <WebLOCH> kemik, whats worse is rhythm box wont play
[06:42] <Cynicle> omfg wats with the music player not playing god damn mp3z?
[06:43] <Cynicle> its like the only music format i have
[06:43] <Seveas> Cynicle, language..
[06:43] <GnuKemist> _icebreaker_, should be towards the bottom of the file
[06:43] <WebLOCH> kemik, it states there is no resource for writing output
[06:43] <Seveas> !mp3
[06:43] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[06:43] <kemik> WebLOCH:  got gstreamer0.8-mad ?
[06:43] <WebLOCH> yup
[06:43] <bystander> !tell Cynicle about mp3
[06:43] <kemik> WebLOCH:  aha.. sounds like it's not configured correctly then..
[06:43] <jayson_I> GnuKemist: maybe if i will finish my job I can help to monoDelep to develop.
[06:43] <Cynicle> huh?
[06:43] <XoloX> Seveas, where can I best put the /boot/grub/menu.lst entries if I don't want them to disappear? (Note though that the ones that were there were added by the installer, not me, hence I have no idea were in the file they were added)
[06:43] <WebLOCH> Kemik... how ... were?  do i start ?
[06:43] <GnuKemist> _icebreaker_, most of the time it has something to do with the screen resolutions you chose?
[06:44] <bystander> Cynicle, *read* the page - it tells you what to do
[06:44] <kemik> WebLOCH:  you using Hoary and the soundserver ?
[06:44] <jayson_I> so .net in Win can now match to linux. :0
[06:44] <WebLOCH> hoary yes
[06:44] <jayson_I> :)
[06:44] <WebLOCH> soundserver what ?
[06:44] <Seveas> XoloX, the menu.lst has a ## BEGIN DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNEL LIST and an ## END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNEL LIST line
[06:44] <Seveas> don't put anything between these lines
[06:44] <kemik> WebLOCH:  System->prefs->sound
[06:44] <XoloX> OK
[06:44] <kemik> sound is a big issue in linux
[06:44] <blekos> how can i kill a process?
[06:44] <_icebreaker__> GnuKemist but it shows the nvidia logo...
[06:44] <kemik> i *hate* it
[06:44] <Cynicle> bystander, i dont understand
[06:45] <Drakeson> how can I change date and time in a text based way? using "date" is the way?
[06:45] <tomb_> ffs
[06:45] <XoloX> Seveas, I owe you :), thanks for easing the Ubuntu transition
[06:45] <kemik> dont see why noone develops a wrapper for OSS/ESD/ALSA or whatever
[06:45] <GnuKemist> _icebreaker_, paste the end of your log in #flood
[06:45] <bystander> Cynicle, what don't you understand ?
[06:45] <Seveas> kemik, esd is the wrapper...
[06:45] <GnuKemist> blekos, check out the kill command
[06:45] <kemik> Seveas:  well it's not working :)
[06:45] <Cynicle> bystander, how to add codecs
[06:45] <Cryptid> Please Help me on booting i am not getting my GDM login screen but i am getting the terminal login screen what do i do ????? please help Is there a way i can restore my computer to a previous time????
[06:45] <Seveas> but lots of progeams don't use it
[06:45] <Seveas> Cynicle, read that wikipage
[06:45] <thegeekdom> Hey, can I do a "boot from floppy install with this howto ?  I do not have a CD rom on this at all:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot
[06:45] <WebLOCH> kemik, it states it is enabled at startup
[06:46] <Seveas> Cryptid, what did you do before this happened?
[06:46] <WebLOCH> kemik, i should metion that xmms plays fine and that i just wanted to try rythm
[06:46] <GnuKemist> blekos, sudo ps aux |grep [program name]  will tell you the ID for the program
[06:46] <jayson_I> GnuKemist: how can i view the requirements for monoDevelop?
[06:46] <GnuKemist> blekos, then you can sudo kill -9 [id] 
[06:46] <Cryptid> Seveas, i had installed gdesklet and ICE some thing i dunno what these are but i installed them
[06:46] <helpme> where can i find freerocks gnome? it it a theme or new gnome?
[06:47] <kemik> WebLOCH:  mmh.. well i dunno what's wrong... not meddled to much with the sound-issue... cus it's working here (even to sound-mixing isnt working too good)
[06:47] <jayson_I> GnuKemist: i'm also now downloding a ubuntu 5.10 right now. :)
[06:47] <shaoqi_> hi. how can i find out how much disk space is left on my hdd? thanks
[06:47] <apokryphos> shaoqi_: df -h
[06:47] <bystander> shaoqi_, df -h
[06:47] <dacrepair> how can i change my screen res
[06:47] <apokryphos> dacrepair: /msg ubotu resolution
[06:47] <jayson_I> coz'my 5.4 was lost in my CD organizer.
[06:47] <WebLOCH> jayson_I, I would advice you stop
[06:48] <GnuKemist> dacrepair, System -- Prefs  -- Screen Res
[06:48] <dacrepair> ah
[06:48] <dacrepair> thanks
[06:48] <Cynicle> bystander, where do i add the line of code into the program? anywhere and do i add the update lines?
[06:48] <GnuKemist> dacrepair, np  ;)
[06:48] <jayson_I> WebLOCH: ok ;p
[06:48] <dacrepair> ok
[06:48] <dacrepair> now i only have 1 resolution
[06:48] <WebLOCH> jayson_I,  5.10 is unstable and not particularly forthcomming
[06:48] <kemik> i sure hope the new ATI drivers in breezy will support VideoModeOverlay
[06:48] <_icebreaker__> GnuKemist: Must there be a fontserver running?
[06:49] <kemik> jayson_I:  wait with breezy till 13oct
[06:49] <GnuKemist> dacrepair, not sure if there's a GUI for setting up the resolutions...  you may have to tweak xorg.conf
[06:49] <helpme> whats freerocks gnome?
[06:49] <Cryptid> Seves, do u know what the problem is can u help me restore my computer back to normal coz i have lots of important data on my disc or is there a way i can burn my important data from Terminal
[06:49] <GnuKemist> _icebreaker_, not sure... my guess would be yes
[06:49] <dacrepair> thanks i remember my buddie mentioning that
[06:49] <jayson_I> ok what is my thing to do now?
[06:49] <dacrepair> i tried it
[06:49] <dacrepair> then it couldent find my mouse
[06:49] <dacrepair> grrr
[06:49] <Kira> Has somebody made PPPoE work on a wlan connection?
[06:50] <blekos> thnx
[06:50] <_icebreaker__> GnuKemist can i sned you the last 20lines of my log file
[06:50] <GnuKemist> dacrepair, try a conservative resolution...
[06:50] <Kira> It's one of the few things that's preventing me from doing a complete switch from Windows to Ubuntu on my laptop.
[06:50] <dacrepair> like
[06:50] <GnuKemist> _icebreaker_, sure thing
[06:50] <Cryptid> Seveas, do u know what the problem is can u help me restore my computer back to normal coz i have lots of important data on my disc or is there a way i can burn my important data from Terminal
[06:50] <jayson_I> i'm planning now to download the 5.4, it's OK?
[06:51] <GnuKemist> jayson_I, 5.04 is more than ok  ;)
[06:51] <dacrepair> i dont care
[06:51] <dacrepair> i freaking hate 640x480
[06:51] <dacrepair> eww
[06:51] <_icebreaker__> GnuKemist do you know how to query out of bitchx
[06:51] <GnuKemist> dacrepair, try to hard code 1024xwhatever
[06:51] <dacrepair> ok
[06:51] <jayson_I> GnuKemist: OK i will try to download now simultaneously to the 5.10
[06:52] <GnuKemist> _icebreaker_, how do you mean?
[06:52] <jayson_I> by the way where i can download more faster?
[06:52] <dacrepair> do you know where my usbmouse is "located"
[06:52] <jayson_I> any mirror have fast connection?
[06:52] <GnuKemist> dacrepair, the device itself?
[06:52] <dacrepair> so i dont fuxxor my xorg AGAIN
[06:52] <dacrepair> no in the software
[06:52] <dacrepair> like /dev...
[06:53] <GnuKemist> dacrepair, right
[06:53] <Chii_Chan> ick.... just finished reinstalling linux as I managed to kill my networking o.o
[06:53] <^DodGeR^> /dev/input or /dev/mice maybe ?
[06:54] <GnuKemist> dacrepair, not sure... someone can confirm if it is /dev/psaux?
[06:54] <hosler> Where can I find a good graphical interface for TOR?
[06:54] <dacrepair> is therer a way to see?
[06:54] <misfit_toy> /dev/input mice
[06:54] <misfit_toy> /dev/input/mice
[06:54] <dacrepair> ok
[06:55] <^DodGeR^> maybe cat /dev/input/mice and move mouse to see it anything comes back ?
[06:55] <jayson_I> GnuKemist: I'm order to ship with me a CD, it's my first time to do it
[06:55] <Cynicle> i installed the plugins off the website but it still wont play mp3s, can anyone please help me
[06:55] <_icebreaker__> $test=/exec tail -n 20 /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:55] <zeno> hosler: why do you need a giu for tor?
[06:55] <jayson_I> how many day it will ship it to me?
[06:55] <zeno> *giu=gui
[06:55] <kemik> Cryptid:  try "startx" from the terminal
[06:55] <GnuKemist> _icebreaker_, check your priv msg
[06:55] <jayson_I> in here in the phillipines.
[06:55] <GnuKemist> jayson_I, should not be a problem
[06:56] <GnuKemist> jayson_I, they'll ship it to the moon if needed
[06:56] <jayson_I> ;p
[06:56] <Cynicle> ahhh why cant i play mp3z
[06:56] <jayson_I> how can i know if they already ship it to me?
[06:56] <GnuKemist> _icebreaker_, you need to add the -o parameter to your command
[06:56] <zeno> Cynicle: what's the problem with mp3?
[06:56] <GnuKemist> _icebreaker_, but send it to me in priv
[06:56] <hosler> zeno: i dont know, haha
[06:56] <jayson_I> GnuKemist: Did you try already?
[06:56] <zeno> hosler: :)
[06:57] <twoSharp> Cynicle, install the gstreamer-mad package from universe repository
[06:57] <dacrepair> ok
[06:57] <GnuKemist> jayson_I, absolutely
[06:57] <zeno> hosler: is very quick to configure
[06:57] <jayson_I> GnuKemist: how about the shipping fee?
[06:57] <jayson_I> it cost a lot?
[06:57] <GnuKemist> jayson_I, read the page... there is none
[06:57] <Cynicle> twoSharp, whats is universe repository? and how do i get there
[06:57] <hosler> zeno: i have it all configured, its just that sometimes when I run at school it does not work. I know that my school's firewall only allows port 80 connection, and I have that setup in my config file. I dont know why it wont work sometimes.
[06:58] <Cryptid> Kemik will this work?? does it do the same thing as X
[06:58] <bystander> !tell Cynicle about repos
[06:58] <zeno> Cynicle: if you use xmms just select the proper output source (esd)
[06:58] <Cynicle> bystander, what does that mean
[06:58] <Cynicle> zeno, huh?
[06:58] <bystander> Cynicle, read your private messages
[06:58] <Cynicle> guys im a total noob
[06:58] <_icebreaker__> Warning: font renderer for ".snf.Z" already registered at priority 0
[06:58] <_icebreaker__> Warning: font renderer for ".snf.gz" already registered at priority 0
[06:58] <_icebreaker__> Warning: font renderer for ".bdf" already registered at priority 0
[06:58] <_icebreaker__> Warning: font renderer for ".bdf.Z" already registered at priority 0
[06:58] <_icebreaker__> Warning: font renderer for ".bdf.gz" already registered at priority 0
[06:59] <_icebreaker__> Warning: font renderer for ".pmf" already registered at priority 0
[06:59] <_icebreaker__> Could not init font path element unix/:7100, removing from list!
[06:59] <_icebreaker__>    *** If unresolved symbols were reported above, they might not
[06:59] <_icebreaker__>    *** be the reason for the server aborting.
[06:59] <_icebreaker__> Fatal server error:
[06:59] <_icebreaker__> Caught signal 11.  Server aborting
[06:59] <zeno> Cynicle: go to "preferences" of xmms
[06:59] <_icebreaker__> Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support
[06:59] <_icebreaker__> 	 at http://wiki.X.Org
[06:59] <_icebreaker__>  for help.
[06:59] <twoSharp> Cynicle,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:59] <_icebreaker__> Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional information.
[06:59] <Seveas> DAMNIT
[06:59] <borgista> Helo. How would I set the IP of ath0 to 192.168.0.3?
[06:59] <borgista> It's a wireless card.
[06:59] <borgista> Hello*
[06:59] <Cynicle> zeno, what is xmms
[06:59] <zeno> Cynicle: xmms is a music player
[07:00] <jayson_I> about the firewall of ubuntu how can i configure it ?
[07:00] <hosler> borgista: network-admin can do that, but its not that good.
[07:00] <Seveas> jayson_I, man iptables
[07:00] <twoSharp> Cynicle,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats is a guide on how to get things like mp3 to work...
[07:00] <Seveas> or install firestarter/shorewall
[07:00] <dacrepair> no
[07:00] <dacrepair> grr
[07:00] <dacrepair> bastard
[07:00] <Cynicle> zeno, i dont think i have it
[07:00] <dacrepair> i opened ssh to a friend
[07:00] <zeno> Cynicle: it's not possible
[07:00] <bystander> Cynicle, read the links at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation  << you need to do some reading
[07:00] <dacrepair> and he fork bombed me
[07:00] <zeno> Cynicle: open a terminal and type xmms
[07:00] <dacrepair> grr
[07:00] <hosler> zeno: should i run tor as root?
[07:01] <dacrepair> no i gotta restart THEN xorg
[07:01] <zeno> hosler: i don't think so
[07:01] <misfit_toy> dacrepair, some friend
[07:01] <kemik> Cryptid:  try ut
[07:01] <GnuKemist> hehe
[07:01] <hosler> zeno: do you know of any good nodes that run on port 80 that i can start my onion route on?
[07:01] <matrix> how do i switch directories in console ?
[07:01] <dacrepair> thanks for your help GnuKemist and misfit_toy
[07:01] <kemik> Cryptid:  i cant know *beforehand* since i dont know what you've done with your system
[07:01] <misfit_toy> np
[07:01] <GnuKemist> dacrepair, np  ;)
[07:02] <dacrepair> ok
[07:02] <dacrepair> seeya
[07:02] <zeno> hosler: no, i'm sorry
[07:02] <hosler> ok
[07:02] <matrix> ...?
[07:02] <linner> maxtrix did you get your unrar to work for you?
[07:02] <Cynicle> zeno, it says not found
[07:02] <matrix> yeah i did
[07:02] <hosler> misfit_toy: breezy works great fo rme.
[07:02] <kemik> hehe "man iptables" now that's a fun read :|
[07:02] <linner> matrix, good!!!
[07:02] <Chii_Chan> breezy isnt that bad
[07:02] <matrix> thanks for the help btw
[07:02] <matrix> :)
[07:02] <zeno> Cynicle: type in a terminale: "apt-get xmms"
[07:03] <linner> matrix, that's what everyone's here for... to help each other :)
[07:03] <kemik> matrix:  what was wrong with unrar?
[07:03] <bystander> zeno, erm, no
[07:03] <Chii_Chan> I started up with that, and the only error I ran into was the one I created when I deleted something I shouldnt've
[07:03] <matrix> i wasn't doing it in cmd line
[07:03] <Cynicle> zeno, it says invalid opperation
[07:03] <linner> matrix, i can't even get the darned the to load on my lap top... 6 times and no love for linner ;)
[07:03] <zeno> Cynicle: type in a terminale: "sudo apt-get xmms"
[07:03] <bystander> Cynicle,  sudo apt-get install xmms
[07:03] <zeno> wow shit! bad mistake
[07:03] <matrix> lol =] 
[07:03] <bystander> zeno, wrong again
[07:03] <kemik> matrix:  but i told you to O_o ;)
[07:03] <matrix> yeah u did
[07:04] <zeno> it's because i have a alias to apt line ... install etc
[07:04] <matrix> do u guys ever sleep :
 zeno, wrong again :)
[07:04] <linner> matrix, i went to bed this morning at 4am...
[07:04] <dacrepair> hey
[07:04] <matrix> i went at 6
[07:04] <dacrepair> btw
[07:04] <linner> matrix, and was up at 9am because it's buggin' me to much
[07:04] <linner> matrix, so you're just as guilty!
[07:04] <Cynicle> zeno, ok its installing
[07:04] <dacrepair> how do i change my xorg?
[07:04] <matrix> lol
[07:04] <Cynicle> bystander, thanks
[07:04] <kemik> it's 1900 here so im nowhere near sleepy
[07:04] <zeno> Cynicle: after the installing
[07:04] <dacrepair> like whats the command
[07:05] <zeno> write my name here
[07:05] <zeno> i'll help you
[07:05] <dacrepair>                         zeno
[07:05] <misfit_toy> dacrepair, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:05] <GnuKemist> dacrepair, you could do it manually...  sudo gedit [path to xorg.conf] 
[07:05] <dacrepair> ah
[07:05] <dacrepair> too far
[07:05] <derek[] > launchpad.net
[07:05] <derek[] > :/
[07:05] <dacrepair> hi derek
[07:05] <bystander> Cynicle, first thing you do is right click the xmms window, options - prefs - look for the output plugin and set it to esound
[07:05] <derek[] > the older user accounts are washed out?
[07:05] <derek[] > hi dacrepair
[07:05] <dacrepair> yeah
[07:06] <derek[] > dang
[07:06] <jayson_I> GnuKemist: now i can more spend time in mono rather than MS.net
[07:06] <srossi> hi
[07:06] <dacrepair> my name is derek
[07:06] <jayson_I> ;) tnx
[07:06] <derek[] > :)
[07:06] <GnuKemist> bystander, any reason not to use ALSA?
[07:06] <derek[] > dacrepair, mine is just a nick here
[07:06] <derek[too] > oh
[07:06] <derek[too] > heh
[07:06] <derek[too] > i know thats what i'm saying
[07:06] <bystander> GnuKemist, trust me, esound is the best thing totry first
[07:06] <GnuKemist> jayson_I, my advice is to stop the Mono talk here and send me a priv msg about it
[07:06] <derek[] > k
[07:06] <derek[too] > my nick on protium is derek or dacrepair
[07:07] <SpudULike> What GUI tools arew there to help me configure what services get started at boot time.  Being a refugee from Suse we used to have a Yast module for this.
[07:07] <GnuKemist> bystander, will take your word for it even though alsa works here
[07:07] <misfit_toy> speaking of Mono, does anyone's beagle work?
[07:07] <misfit_toy> in breezy?
[07:07] <bystander> GnuKemist, esd does weird things to xmms - we see it all the time
[07:07] <derek[too] > when is breezys official release date?
[07:07] <hosler> does anyone know of any good TOR nodes that use port 80/443 that i can use for entry nodes?
[07:07] <cyphase> Oct. 13
[07:07] <derek[too] > cool
[07:07] <derek[too] > i'm running the beta
[07:08] <derek[too] > and its ok
[07:08] <GnuKemist> misfit_toy, try #ubuntu-mono
[07:08] <derek[too] > but it doesnt have all of the features the official one has
[07:08] <GnuKemist> jayson_I, try #ubuntu-mono too
[07:09] <Cynicle> bystander, now that ive installed the program how do i run it ?
[07:09] <jayson_I> GnuKemist: y you leave?
[07:09] <Cynicle> bystander, wait i got it
[07:09] <bystander> Cynicle, it should be in your menu
[07:09] <matrix> ok so how do i change directories in terminal ?
[07:09] <linner> ok ya'll ... i have to scoot... good futher luck matrix :)
[07:09] <linner> I'll be back later on...
[07:09] <matrix> later
[07:09] <bystander> Cynicle, do change theoutput plugin first to avoid freezes
[07:10] <GnuKemist> matrix, cd to it
[07:10] <emile> matrix: cd (change directory)
[07:10] <matrix> O.o
[07:10] <Cynicle> bystander, done. what does the output plugin do?
[07:10] <matrix> just plain cd?
[07:11] <GnuKemist> matrix, cd [folder name] 
[07:11] <matrix> how about cd (drive name)  ?
[07:11] <GnuKemist> matrix, use the full path to the directory for now
[07:11] <bystander> Cynicle, in oversimplified terms  - directs the output to the esound daemon (which is the ubuntu default)
[07:11] <GnuKemist> matrix, you're thinking of windows ;)
[07:11] <matrix> how so ?
[07:11] <GnuKemist> matrix, cd /media/[drive] 
[07:11] <matrix> O.o
[07:12] <matrix> ty
[07:12] <GnuKemist> matrix, you wanted to do cd d:?
[07:12] <matrix> nope
[07:12] <matrix> not my drive name
[07:12] <jayson_I> GnuKemist: y you leave in ubuntu-mono?
[07:12] <GnuKemist> matrix, my bad
[07:12] <njak> matrix: go&fuck your mum
[07:12] <derek[too] > ok apparently its already configed for my vid card
[07:12] <derek[too] > but still it wont let me change
[07:12] <bystander> njak, language
[07:12] <emile> njak: watch your language please
[07:13] <GnuKemist> jayson_I, b/c I didn't know you wanted to talk to me specifically(sp)
[07:13] <matrix> why i gotta go fuck my mom :|
[07:13] <bystander> !tell njak about coc
[07:13] <derek[too] > can someone help me hard code resolution support
[07:13] <anti-net_> Hi, anyone here know if webmin will work ok in ubuntu?
[07:13] <njak> matrix: cause you've fucked your dad
[07:13] <jayson_I> GnuKemist: ah ok
[07:14] <jbroome> *sniff* i smell a kick coming
[07:14] <GnuKemist> derek[too] , sudo gedit /etc/Xorg/xorg.conf
[07:14] <matrix> i thought this was a help channel and this disgrace to humanity is in here telling me to fuck my mom
[07:14] <derek[too] > i did
[07:14] <derek[too] > it wont let me
[07:14] <tristanmike> njak, no need for that language
[07:14] <GnuKemist> derek[too] , did you sudo it?
[07:15] <chrissturm> how do i use the video out with fglrx?
[07:15] <GnuKemist> derek[too] , sudo gedit /etc/Xorg/xorg.conf
[07:15] <derek[too] > no i'm in root
[07:15] <njak> tristanmike: go and fuck allah!
[07:15] <GnuKemist> derek[too] , gedit /etc/Xorg/xorg.conf
[07:15] <matrix> root@ool-45774c8b:~ # cd /media/Jump Drive
[07:15] <matrix> bash: cd: /media/Jump: No such file or directory
[07:15] <derek[too] > i did
[07:15] <emile> can someone please remove njak from the channel?
[07:15] <matrix> thats what i get when i type that
[07:15] <GnuKemist> derek[too] , what is the error?
[07:15] <derek[too] > hang on
[07:16] <GnuKemist> matrix, is Jump the full name?
[07:16] <chrissturm> how do i use the video out with fglrx?
[07:16] <njak> emile: no, but you must suck my dick and than you can ban me
[07:16] <njak> fuck you
[07:16] <matrix> nope  if u look at it i typed jump drive
[07:16] <tristanmike> njak, you can show your ignorance by cursing and verbally abusing people in here, but it won't get you anywhere, but banned
[07:16] <derek[too] > (gedit:8528): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[07:16] <derek[too] > Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[07:16] <njak> tristanmike: go and fuck allah!
[07:16] <njak> tristanmike: go and fuck allah!
[07:16] <njak> tristanmike: go and fuck allah!
[07:16] <jbroome> i think he's a bot!
[07:16] <tristanmike> njak, who is this allah you speak of?
[07:16] <derek[too] > kiick please
[07:17] <derek[too] > possible
[07:17] <derek[too] > thanks
[07:17] <oolon> everyone has an ignore option
[07:17] <tristanmike> merci
[07:17] <matrix> Jump Drive is the full name of my drive
[07:17] <derek[too] > anyways
[07:17] <GnuKemist> derek[too] , not sure but you can try sudo nano -w /etc/Xorg/xorg.conf
[07:17] <derek[too] > ok
[07:17] <GnuKemist> matrix, cd /media/Jump\ Drive
[07:17] <derek[too] > i did that
[07:18] <derek[too] > its doing that
[07:18] <GnuKemist> derek[too] ,  modify it and save it by clicking CTRL - X
[07:18] <derek[too] > i did
[07:18] <GnuKemist> derek[too] ,  then YES
[07:18] <emile> njak was (i=igor_242@212.200.124.81) joj [i=igor_242@212.200.125.83] 
[07:18] <matrix> O.o btw my jump drive shows on my desktop so, i got that error again
[07:18] <derek[too] > it uses the module for my card
[07:18] <derek[too] > i restarted
[07:19] <derek[too] > then i STILL cant change it
[07:19] <ompaul> oolon, but they should not have to use ignore, and check out the code of conduct for here  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/document_view - part of ubuntu
[07:19] <GnuKemist> derek[too] , weird
[07:19] <derek[too] > is there a code to "force 1024x768"?
[07:20] <GnuKemist> matrix, if you can navigate to it via the desktop icon, there shouldn't be a reason for not doing the same via the command line
[07:20] <HiddenFly> is gftp able to handle SFTP?
[07:20] <derek[too] > yes
[07:20] <derek[too] > it should
[07:20] <joj> matrix: what's up, motherfucker ?
[07:20] <HiddenFly> good thanks
[07:20] <oolon> ompaul, i know but it's better then engaging the idiots :)
[07:20] <ompaul> joj, language
[07:20] <derek[too] > hiddenfly: yes it should
[07:21] <oolon> ompaul, he's the same guy as b4
[07:21] <davidmccabe> Hi folks.
[07:21] <matrix> so, do i add desktop in the cmd line somewhere ?
[07:21] <davidmccabe> I desperately want to remove ttf-indic-fonts and ttf-malayalam-fonts in order to make my font list usable again. However, ubuntu-desktop is dependent upon them. What will happen if it is removed?
[07:21] <GnuKemist> matrix, can you confirm if you can access Jump Drive by double-clicking its icon?
[07:22] <matrix> yeah i can
[07:22] <matrix> but its where all my rar files are
[07:22] <GnuKemist> matrix, can you confirm that it is listed under /media by clicking on My Computer?
[07:22] <matrix> my computer is not on my desktop -_-
[07:23] <ompaul> davidmccabe, do it, ubuntu desktop is a meta package, its not going anywhere
[07:23] <GnuKemist> matrix, Places menu
[07:23] <BollocksMacenzie> I've got a bash file where it loads a program in the background which runs continuously... How do I get the bash script to exit even though the program hasn't!
[07:23] <jayson_I> GnuKemist: can you get back to #ubuntu-mono
[07:23] <Cynicle> HEY GUYS does anyone know a respository where i can download the newest version of gaim
[07:23] <derek[too] > apt-get update
[07:23] <matrix> yeah its there
[07:23] <GnuKemist> jayson_I, you have an specific question?
[07:23] <davidmccabe> ompaul: yeah but will it mess up checking for new versions of things?
[07:23] <derek[too] > apt-get installgaim
[07:23] <davidmccabe> ompaul: (in gentoo it would)
[07:23] <leopard> Anyone own an iRiver H10?
[07:23] <hosler> How do I change the directory that tor downloads the tor information from?
[07:23] <derek[too] > apt-get install gaim
[07:23] <henke> leopard, I own a H20
[07:24] <leopard> henke: have you got it working under Linux?
[07:24] <GnuKemist> matrix, then cd /media/Jump\ Drive should work...  if it doesn't then I dunno
[07:24] <jayson_I> GnuKemist: any official chanell to mono?
[07:24] <henke> leopard, it works as a regular USB mass storage device
[07:24] <ompaul> davidmccabe, I have not found it do any bad stuff
[07:24] <GnuKemist> jayson_I, have you tried looking at their pages?  or #mono?
[07:24] <pmjdebruijn> jayson_I, irc.gimpnet.org#mono
[07:24] <GnuKemist> pmjdebruijn, thanx  ;)
[07:24] <matrix> bash: cd: /media/Jump Drive: No such file or directory
[07:24] <leopard> henke: guess only the H10 is incompatible.
[07:25] <jayson_I> ah ok tnx
[07:25] <iTCh> need help, please. x-common won't update. error is "trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/X11/fonts'"
[07:25] <GnuKemist> matrix, then cd /media/Jump\ Drive
[07:25] <GnuKemist> matrix, note the \
[07:25] <BollocksMacenzie> Never Mind
[07:25] <matrix> i used that full line
[07:25] <henke> leopard, aren't they the same, just different hard drive sizes?
[07:25] <leopard> henke: got my H10 syncing, but I either have to pull the battery or roll back the firmware.
[07:25] <bam_> anyone own a zaurus in here? particularly the sl-cXXXX series?
[07:25] <GnuKemist> matrix, then cd /media/Jump [press TAB once] 
[07:26] <leopard> henke: did you roll back your firmware?
[07:26] <henke> leopard, I use the latest firmware
[07:26] <davidmccabe> ompaul: ok, thanks.
[07:26] <matrix> ok still don't work no worries thanks anyway
[07:26] <GnuKemist> matrix, np... we tried it
[07:27] <matrix> yeah we did
[07:27] <zovirl> I just updated my 5.04 system and it had a problem with firefox.  Now firefox won't start
[07:27] <ompaul> davidmccabe, enjoy
[07:27] <zovirl> any suggestions?
[07:27] <matrix> now mounting drives :)
[07:27] <GnuKemist> zovirl, http://cyphase.homelinux.com/blog/2005/09/23/the-firefox-107-upgrade-in-ubuntu-hoary/
[07:27] <GnuKemist> zovirl, assuming you updated to 1.0.7
[07:27] <bam_> zovirl, uninstall it using synaptic, then reinstall
[07:28] <bam_> that fixed it for me
[07:28] <zovirl> gnukemist: heh...firefox won't start so I can't read that :)
[07:28] <GnuKemist> zovirl, forgot to ask
[07:28] <GnuKemist> zovirl, follow bam_ 's advice
[07:28] <zovirl> bam_ what did you uninstall?  I'm trying to uninstall firefox but it won't do it without also trying to upgrade mozilla-firefox
[07:28] <bam_> firefox, using synaptic
[07:28] <GnuKemist> zovirl, sudo apt-get remove firefox firefox-gnome-support mozilla-firefox mozilla-firefox-gnome-support
[07:28] <bam_> your using apt-get i suppose
[07:29] <leopard> henke: hmmn... I think the H10 and H20 might be slightly different because the H10 uses MTP which doesn't seem to be recognized by the kernel.
[07:29] <bam_> dont use atp
[07:29] <GnuKemist> zovirl, sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox mozilla-firefox-gnome-support
[07:29] <bam_> apt
[07:29] <iTCh> need help. just used synaptic to update but x-common_1.08_all.deb got error. what can i do?
[07:29] <zovirl> bam_ no I'm using synaptic...
[07:29] <bam_> oh
[07:29] <bam_> hmm
[07:29] <AngryParsley> iTCh: I just had the same thing happen
[07:29] <GnuKemist> zovirl, using the 2 commands listed above will work
[07:29] <iTCh> AngryParsley, were u able to fix it?
[07:29] <zovirl> is it ok that it says it will remove "ubuntu-desktop" ?
[07:30] <pizux> is somebody got a teminal triway v2 here?*
[07:30] <GnuKemist> zovirl, and my advice...  keep lynx browser around...  ;)
[07:30] <bam_> goto your cache (cant seem to remember where that is specifically) delete the firefox package
[07:30] <AngryParsley> iTCh: no, I just came in here
[07:30] <henke> leopard, oh, I didn't know that.
[07:30] <zovirl> gnukemist: oh yeah lynx :)
[07:30] <bam_> lemme chaeck
[07:30] <GnuKemist> zovirl, I've used it many times  ;)
[07:31] <iTCh> AngryParsley, i suppose this isn't a one-thing glitch ... we need help
[07:31] <AngryParsley> now synaptic won't update
[07:31] <henke> leopard, what is MTP, anyway?
[07:31] <zovirl> gnukemist: is it normal that the apt-get remove command you gave me wants to also remove "ubuntu-desktop" ?
[07:31] <leopard> henke: anyway I wrote up a hack-howto for H10 users... Good to know that the H20 is better. I think MTP is some stupid iRiver formatting scheme.
[07:31] <GnuKemist> zovirl, I don't remember the messages I got bit it works
[07:31] <GnuKemist> zovirl, blind faith
[07:31] <GnuKemist> zovirl, ;)
[07:32] <bam_> /var/cache/apt/archives
[07:32] <bam_> the package(firefox) delete it
[07:32] <iTCh> AngryParsley, exactly it won't overwrite /usr/lib/X11/fonts
[07:32] <henke> leopard, ahh, now when I think about it, my sisters T20 uses the same.
[07:32] <AngryParsley> I click on "install updates" but the the installation status window just closes
[07:32] <bam_> then goto synaptic, remove firefox
[07:33] <leopard> I was just seeing if there were H10 users who were having frustrations with getting it to sync with Linux.
[07:33] <bam_> then apt-get update
[07:33] <bam_> back to synaptic, reinstall new package
[07:33] <GnuKemist> zovirl, just checked my messages and it did ask me to delete ubuntu-desktop... go for it
[07:33] <bam_> thats what I did
[07:33] <henke> leopard, I wonder why they don't stick to USB mass storage for their devices, automatically gives them support everywhere
[07:33] <leopard> henke: the hack isn't pretty though. I'm going to go after iRiver/Mystic to update the firmware again for the H10.
[07:33] <zovirl> gnukemist: thanks
[07:34] <GnuKemist> zovirl, my pleasure
[07:34] <henke> leopard, how did you do?
[07:34] <iTCh> btw shipit is now taking in orders :)~~
[07:34] <leopard> henke: who knows, maybe Microsoft slipped them some money???
[07:34] <Cynicle> guys how do i edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[07:34] <Cynicle> its owned by root and is read only
[07:34] <cyphase> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:35] <GnuKemist> Cynicle, sudo gedit /etc/apt/aources.list
[07:35] <bam_> or vim
[07:35] <cyphase> gedit for a gui editor
[07:35] <GnuKemist> or nano
[07:35] <GnuKemist> ;)
[07:35] <deFrysk> err sudo nanoi -w
[07:35] <cyphase> gedit is probably best though
[07:35] <GnuKemist> agreed
[07:35] <deFrysk> nano rules
[07:35] <bam_> never played with nano, yet
[07:35] <Juhaz> nano == pico on steroids
[07:35] <leopard> henke: http://tuxspot.blogspot.com has the hack. It basically involves pulling tha battery for 30 seconds, pressing the 'O' key when you turn on to get the H10 to revert back to USB storage mode, and using some indexing software to index what you transfer over. It's a pain but it works.
[07:36] <zovirl> gnukemist, bam_: thanks I got firefox back now :)
[07:36] <GnuKemist> zovirl, woot
[07:36] <henke> leopard, so it has a USB storage mode too?
[07:36] <GnuKemist> zovirl, cyphase wrote the howto I tried to point you too
[07:36] <joaospinto> look when i enter the SMB windows Doccuments and settings folder
[07:36] <bam_> sure, np
[07:36] <joaospinto> im asked a user a domain and a password
[07:36] <cyphase> zovirl, what seems to be the problem?
[07:36] <cyphase> :)
[07:36] <joaospinto> u have said me to put the name of administrator (in my xp language)
[07:37] <joaospinto> and no pass
[07:37] <joaospinto> but i have a pass
[07:37] <GnuKemist> cyphase, the old firefox prob... it's fixed though  ;)
[07:37] <joaospinto> so i put the pass
[07:37] <zovirl> cyphase: update broke mozilla....gnukemist kindly pointed me to your website on the problem :)
[07:37] <joaospinto> and i cant login :(
[07:37] <leopard> henke: it does, but by default it's "disabled"... the only way to enable it is to pull the battery to get the H10 to forget its MTP settings.
[07:37] <cyphase> oh
[07:37] <joaospinto> can you help me folks?
[07:37] <cyphase> i thought you were still having problems
[07:38] <henke> leopard, icky, though it should then be possible to hack the firmware. Just dangerous ;)
[07:38] <GnuKemist> zovirl, the fix is actually in the channel topic... check it out
[07:38] <joaospinto> Ppl how shall i login to the doccuments and settings windows page through samba????
[07:38] <iTCh> is there a way to change back to the location bar on nautilus (brrezy badger pr)
[07:38] <zovirl> gnukemist: oh yeah...I missed it
[07:38] <leopard> henke: you can just roll back the firmware and it should work, but there are problems with rolling back the firmware too.
[07:38] <joaospinto> i think there is a WEP key on the share!
[07:39] <joaospinto> but i think it is not in use
[07:39] <joaospinto> coz i didnt put it in the router configuration
[07:39] <Juhaz> iTCh, you can temporarily get the bar with ctrl-l, and there is a gconf key for permanent setting
[07:39] <GnuKemist> zovirl, ;)
[07:39] <joaospinto> and i can list the files from this computer
[07:39] <leopard> henke: and of course you need a windows box to roll it back.
[07:39] <joaospinto> CAN anyone h3lp me?!?
[07:39] <henke> leopard, so the old firmwares use USB storage?
[07:39] <iTCh> thanx Juhaz
[07:39] <joaospinto> anybody????
[07:40] <joaospinto> oh
[07:40] <iTCh> excellent Juhaz ... now how do i make that permanent
[07:40] <leopard> henke: I think so, but I wasn't able to get it to work, which is why I updated to the new firmware. But, I may have missed something when I first tried syncing.
[07:40] <henke> leopard, by the way, the H20 can be run without indexing the filees. You just lose the neat categories by genre and artist and so. You just get the directory structure
[07:41] <Juhaz> iTCh, sorry, not a clue, haven't used 2.12 yet, try looking under /apps/nautilus/preferences in gconf-editor
[07:41] <leopard> henke: cool, I'll be sure to recommend it in the FAQ...thanks.
[07:41] <JairunCaloth> where is sources.list?
[07:41] <iTCh> Juhaz, i am there and going through the key names
[07:41] <henke> leopard, although, there is indexing software available for that too
[07:41] <Tomcat_> JairunCaloth: /etc/apt/
[07:41] <tristanmike> JairunCaloth, /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:41] <ompaul> JairunCaloth, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:42] <JairunCaloth> thanks :0
[07:42] <ompaul> small hint bigger hint full faq and howto
[07:42] <henke> leopard, good luck with getting iRiver to fix their firmware!
[07:43] <Juhaz> iTCh, "always_use_location_entry" ?
[07:43] <leopard> henke: does the H20 do video?
[07:43] <iTCh> Juhaz, can u help me a bit and gimme a hint on the key name??? pulleeez
[07:44] <jeff303> hi, is there any way from Nautilus to say, "Open terminal here"?  I couldn't find it...
[07:44] <RntedMule> You people are super
[07:44] <henke> leopard, no, and now I realized that I've been "lying". It's called H120
[07:44] <iTCh> ahhhaaaa hehehehe ... u are truly marvelous Juhaz. thank u again ;)
[07:44] <henke> leopard, or H100, which comes in 10-40 gb variations
[07:45] <henke> leopard, it's confusing. They have changed the names of the product a few times
[07:45] <Juhaz> jeff303, http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=908
[07:45] <henke> leopard, it's probably an older model than that H10
[07:46] <leopard> henke: this is mine: http://www.iriveramerica.com/prod/hd/h10_char.aspx
[07:46] <ginoo> what's up, yaall
[07:46] <jeff303> Juhaz: many thanks
[07:46] <henke> leopard, I had confused the product names. So our devices are very much not the same.
[07:49] <gaby> hello
[07:50] <waterbear> hi
[07:50] <chrissturm> how do i enable theatre mode with the fglrx driver?
[07:50] <jamey3> I'm trying to clean up the Ubuntu wiki page on disabling IPv6. Does anyone know why the dev team enabled it in the first place (or any other info)?
[07:50] <UbuntuOne> Hi people
[07:50] <henke> leopard, I wonder if something similar to your hack is possible for the T20.
[07:50] <JairunCaloth> bah... blasted firefox
[07:51] <leopard> henke: could be, does it have the 'O' button?
[07:51] <waterbear> jamey3: Perhaps the same rationale as NetBSD
[07:51] <Jack-Ho> is there an officel date for breezy?
[07:51] <jamey3> waterbear, what rationale was that? :)
[07:51] <waterbear> jamey3: Dunno.
[07:51] <GnuKemist> JairunCaloth, lemme guess... it crashed?
[07:51] <JairunCaloth> it won't start
[07:51] <Ne453> Jack-Ho: October 13th I hear from the roadmap ;-)
[07:51] <j0nas`> guys, im having a little trouble getting my intel wireless connection to work with my linksys router... are there any known issues?
[07:51] <tristanmike> GnuKemist, that problem sux
[07:51] <jamey3> waterbear, okay but they did enable IPv6? I'm guessing it's just because they wanted everyone to be future-proof.
[07:51] <j0nas`> it wont seem to accept my wep key
[07:51] <GnuKemist> JairunCaloth, just updated your system?
[07:51] <tristanmike> lol
[07:51] <JairunCaloth> yesterday
[07:51] <Jack-Ho> Ne453, thanks
[07:51] <Jack-Ho> :] 
[07:52] <GnuKemist> tristanmike, ;)
[07:52] <henke> leopard, I don't have it here, so I don't know. Although the battery built-in on that device. That MTP thing is silly though. It even gives problems in Windows. Like not allowing uploads of .ogg files, even though the device supports them.
[07:52] <GnuKemist> JairunCaloth, http://cyphase.homelinux.com/
[07:52] <JairunCaloth> Just did that
[07:52] <JairunCaloth> same result
[07:52] <GnuKemist> JairunCaloth,  type firefox in console
[07:52] <leopard> henke: exactly, it's beyond dumb!
[07:52] <JairunCaloth> didn't do a thing
[07:52] <leopard> henke: I just registered mine and I'm giving them a piece of my mind about it.
[07:53] <tristanmike> JairunCaloth, did you remember to open System Monitor and kill the offending firefox process?
[07:53] <GnuKemist> JairunCaloth, mozilla-firefox?
[07:53] <GnuKemist> tristanmike, good call
[07:53] <henke> leopard, quite funny. It has some fixed folders, like Music and Data. It allows ogg uploads to Data, but not Music :) The device doesn't care and plays them whereever they are, so it's a minor problem.
[07:53] <j0nas`> can anybody help me with my wireless network connection? :-\
[07:53] <JairunCaloth> mmm that might have been a good idea
[07:53] <tristanmike> JairunCaloth, that's why I was getting a whole slew of errors yesterday when I tried
[07:53] <GnuKemist> j0nas`, sup?
[07:54] <j0nas`> GnuKemist: network config wont seem to accept my wep key?
[07:54] <j0nas`> i am not sure why...
[07:54] <j0nas`> its seeing a bunch of access points
[07:54] <JairunCaloth> Thanks guys, seems to be working now
[07:54] <GnuKemist> cyphase, maybe you should add a line telling people to kill off any firefox instance before trying to run it again?
[07:54] <j0nas`> its an intel wireless device
[07:54] <j0nas`> linksys router
[07:54] <tristanmike> JairunCaloth, got firefox back and running againg?
[07:54] <tristanmike> *again?
[07:55] <RntedMule> Can someone help me with remastering a livecd? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=68594 (I am desperate, so this message is on a 10min timer)
[07:55] <GnuKemist> j0nas`, got the firmaware and all?
[07:55] <JairunCaloth> tristanmike: yes, thanks for the help
[07:55] <GnuKemist> JairunCaloth, woot
[07:55] <tristanmike> cool, np, annoyed the heck outta me yesterday
[07:55] <j0nas`> not sure... i assumed it would be installed with the ubuntu installation?
[07:55] <JairunCaloth> yea I was about to start stabbign things
[07:55] <GnuKemist> j0nas`, you got the intel 2200?
[07:55] <tristanmike> JairunCaloth, GnuKemist was one of the people to help me fix it ;)
[07:55] <j0nas`> yes
[07:56] <GnuKemist> tristanmike, all thanx to cyphase  ;)
[07:56] <GnuKemist> j0nas`, hang on
[07:56] <j0nas`> thanks
[07:56] <GnuKemist> j0nas`, got the howto for it
[07:56] <emile> i have an xp 1800 amd processor inside an acer laptop, this is a processor which support cpu frequency scaling. Can i force it to use only eg. 33% of it's capacities to save power, and if yes any clues how?
[07:56] <j0nas`> great... do you suppose this issue will be fixed with breezy?
[07:56] <tristanmike> That's right, and thanks to cyphase woohoo, for the community!
[07:56] <cuddlybear> hello
[07:56] <GnuKemist> j0nas`, nope... I think it's because of the license for the firmware
[07:57] <j0nas`> too bad...
[07:57] <j0nas`> :-\
[07:57] <Ne453> emile: you might want to search google for powernowd (which I think Ubuntu has in the CD)
[07:57] <matrix> ok people thanks again bbl
[07:57] <tristanmike> RntedMule, is that an offical cd?
[07:57] <GnuKemist> j0nas`, try this but skip the wpa part:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26623&highlight=wpa
[07:58] <j0nas`> okay, thanks a lot :)
[07:58] <emile> Ne453: thnx i'll look into that
[07:58] <GnuKemist> j0nas`, but every time you update the kernel you'll have to do it again
[07:58] <GnuKemist> j0nas`, a major PITA
[07:58] <JairunCaloth> I bet if  drive isn't formatted it won't let me mount it eh?
[07:58] <GnuKemist> j0nas`, my pleasure and good web surfing
[07:58] <Ne453> emile: no problem ;-)
[07:59] <henke> RntedMule, why don't you burn the image directly?
[07:59] <GnuKemist> JairunCaloth, I think it will... then you can fdisk it?
[07:59] <GnuKemist> JairunCaloth, or maybe fdisk it first
[07:59] <JairunCaloth> a slave hdd should be /dev/hdb1 rigth?
[07:59] <GnuKemist> JairunCaloth, dunno... hehehe
[07:59] <GnuKemist> JairunCaloth, guess so
[08:00] <JairunCaloth> bastaige won't mount
[08:00] <GnuKemist> JairunCaloth, dmesg |grep hdb
[08:00] <jeff303> Juhaz: have you used this extension?  do I have to restart gnome to see it?
[08:01] <JairunCaloth> GnuKemist: well, it shows it there, that's a plus
[08:01] <Cynicle> hey guys i desperatly need your help, i installed ubuntu today and now when i try to load windows it brings up the splash screen then i get a blue screen of death. help plz
[08:01] <GnuKemist> JairunCaloth, absolutely  ;)
[08:02] <sewoyl> Cynicle, what does the BSOD say
[08:02] <pierre> saluttttt :)
[08:02] <denn_> hi
[08:02] <GnuKemist> sewoyl, probably: Switch to a real OS?  ;)
[08:02] <pierre> hi ^^
[08:02] <GnuKemist> sewoyl, just kidding
[08:02] <LuVUnTu> heheheh GnuKemist
[08:03] <stpere> pierre, hello
[08:03] <JairunCaloth> I thought I had it setup right in fstab
[08:03] <pierre> Hello stpere
[08:03] <GnuKemist> JairunCaloth, does the mount point exist?
[08:03] <GnuKemist> LuVUnTu, ;)
[08:03] <pierre> First time i use a lnx distrib.. really hard :/
[08:03] <cyphase> aw shucks
[08:03] <cyphase> stop it
[08:03] <cyphase> ;)
[08:03] <eagleye> Can someone tell me where to get plugins and codecs for totem
[08:03] <GnuKemist> cyphase, hehe
[08:03] <tristanmike> cyphase, you deserve it
[08:04] <srossi> hi I install for the first time ubuntu .... is there a tool for management file system?
[08:04] <GnuKemist> eagleye, www.ubuntuguide.org
[08:04] <GnuKemist> eagleye, though some people don't like it ;)
[08:04] <Cynicle> sewoyl, um error at location blah blah shutdown to save computer integrity and so on
[08:04] <eagleye> thanks
[08:04] <j0nas`> srossi: nautilus
[08:04] <eagleye> is there an alternative
[08:04] <leopard> henke: Oh I was mean... *g* I think iRiver will probably contact me because I stressed how much I wanted to like the H10, but noted all the problems....
[08:04] <tristanmike> eagleye, use the wiki
[08:04] <j0nas`> or click Places > Computer
[08:04] <Cynicle> sewoyl, before the BSOD comes up it quickly flashes that 2 files are missing
[08:04] <Cynicle> sewoyl, but i didnt delete anything
[08:04] <tristanmike> eagleye, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for example
[08:05] <GnuKemist> Cynicle, maybe a virus beat you to it?  ;)
[08:05] <JairunCaloth> GnuKemist: yea it exists
[08:05] <RntedMule> Can someone help me with remastering a livecd? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=68594 (I am desperate, so this message is on a 10min timer)
[08:05] <leopard> Ah well...off to buy  a cooler for the notebook....ciao all\
[08:05] <Cynicle> GnuKemist, highly doubt it
[08:05] <snd> i apt-get install xserver-xorg... and i typed startx, command not found... what do i need to do?
[08:05] <JairunCaloth> GnuKemist: I've got it telling me wrong filesystem now, the drive is /dev/hdb
[08:05] <JairunCaloth> GnuKemist: just gotta format it
[08:05] <GnuKemist> Cynicle, was just joking...  ;)
[08:05] <JairunCaloth> GnuKemist: It's probably not preformated
[08:05] <carlesmh> hello
[08:06] <eagleye> Thank you, I'll try it
[08:06] <GnuKemist> JairunCaloth, try to fdisk it...  format 82
[08:06] <chelle> hello
[08:06] <thoreauputic> snd sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:06] <chelle> what are you doing
[08:06] <denn_> which version of gnome and openoffice is on ubuntu 5.04?
[08:06] <chelle> hello
[08:06] <JairunCaloth> GnuKemist: Not goign to bother with formating it yet, I havn't completly decided how I"m setting it up yet.
[08:06] <pierre> I wonder if they are some french personn here..
[08:06] <sewoyl> gnome 2.10, OOo 1.1.4
[08:06] <denn_> thanks
[08:07] <GnuKemist> JairunCaloth, gotcha
[08:07] <chelle> hello
[08:07] <sewoyl> denn_, 5.10 is coming out soon
[08:07] <GnuKemist> pierre, is there a #ubuntu-fr?
[08:07] <jeff303> does anyone know... is there the equivalent of a "make uninstall"?
[08:07] <thoreauputic> snd sudo apt-get install x-window-system-core if that doesn't work
[08:07] <pierre> i dont know
[08:07] <ginoo> yeah, there is
[08:07] <GnuKemist> jeff303, make clean?
[08:07] <ginoo> #ubuntu-fr
[08:07] <tritium> snd, are you using warty?
[08:07] <pierre> nop GnuKemist
[08:07] <snd> hoardy
[08:07] <GnuKemist> jeff303, wait
[08:07] <pierre> I've test
[08:07] <pierre> ;)
[08:08] <maci> hmm isnt there wine in breezy yet ?
[08:08] <jeff303> GnuKemist: I thought that just delets the objects from your source directory
[08:08] <GnuKemist> pierre, ginoo says there is
[08:08] <tristanmike> pierre, "/join #ubuntu-fr"
[08:08] <jeff303> GnuKemist: not like /usr/local/  or wherever it installed to
[08:08] <pierre> but i'm alone in this channel ( #ubuntu-fr )
[08:08] <pierre> =/
[08:08] <GnuKemist> jeff303, I think make clean clears all objs in the local source folder so you can re-compile... but am not sure
[08:09] <Chii_Chan> Sorry to bother >.< but Ive reached a part in setting up my network using NdisWrapper.  Where I have to use one of three commands depending on what version of linux Im running.  Which one would I use for Ubuntu/Debian version?  " ifconfig wlan0 up" , "dhclient wlan0",  or "dhcpcd wlan0"
[08:09] <tristanmike> pierre, you can't be, I just went
[08:09] <jeff303> GnuKemist: yeah it does
[08:09] <tritium> yes maci
[08:09] <pierre> ok.. i retry..
[08:09] <tritium> !info wine breezy
[08:09] <GnuKemist> pierre, =/... but your english is good enough
[08:09] <jeff303> GnuKemist: essentially forces a recompile
[08:09] <ubotu> wine: (Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050725-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 14131 kB, Installed size: 55484 kB
[08:09] <maci> tritium: yes there is or there isnt ?
[08:09] <pierre> thx GnuKemist
[08:09] <jeff303> GnuKemist: I mean I suppose you could go through and figure out what directories the make install put things into, manually delete them, etc
[08:09] <jeff303> GnuKemist: but that is a pain
[08:09] <pierre> I'll stay here to improve it ;-)
[08:09] <GnuKemist> jeff303, absolutely
[08:10] <bodaihsim> Hi people. I need a little help. I am Beginner in linux.
[08:10] <GnuKemist> pierre, good decision  ;)
[08:10] <GnuKemist> Chii_Chan, dhclient
[08:10] <bodaihsim> how i switch the workspace in the keyboard
[08:10] <Chii_Chan> okey, ty :)
[08:10] <bodaihsim> ?
[08:10] <tritium> maci, yes there is, see ubotu's info above
[08:10] <GnuKemist> jeff303, so you "hand compiled it"?
[08:10] <Chii_Chan> Hiya bodaihsim :)  I am new as well
[08:10] <maci> tritium: it doesnt seem so
[08:10] <GnuKemist> Chii_Chan, np
[08:10] <maci> tritium: at least not on amd64
[08:10] <silas_> bodaihsim, gnome: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts.
[08:10] <bodaihsim> good :
[08:10] <thoreauputic> bodaihsim: ctrl-alt- arrow
[08:11] <bodaihsim> oh tks a lot
[08:11] <LinuxJones> bodaihsim, ctrl + alt + arrow key
[08:11] <aparra> hi
[08:11] <jeff303> GnuKemist: yeah...
[08:11] <pierre> But i'm so noob.. and you talked about "compilation".. i just know how to type on my keyboard :D
[08:11] <bodaihsim> tks man
[08:11] <tritium> maci, only for i386
[08:11] <da0gre> is there a specific PPC channel?
[08:11] <aparra> sombady know how mount a samba partition?
[08:11] <GnuKemist> Chii_Chan, am assuming you got the device to show up via the iwconfig command
[08:11] <maci> tritium: well.. ill build it from source then
[08:11] <jeff303> GnuKemist: oh interesting, sometimes the Makefile does specify an uninstall rule
[08:12] <jeff303> GnuKemist: that seemed to work
[08:12] <Chii_Chan> yes
[08:12] <GnuKemist> jeff303, share the info...  ;)
[08:12] <Chii_Chan> or else I wouldnt be this far, lol
[08:12] <jeff303> GnuKemist: how...?
[08:12] <GnuKemist> aparra, check the wiki.ubuntu.org
[08:12] <bodaihsim> can i use the WebCam in Ubuntu?
[08:12] <aparra> ok
[08:12] <GnuKemist> jeff303, by telling me if it does have the unistall parameter...  ;)
[08:12] <sewoyl> is it possible to compile then make a deb package ti use apt-get dor uninstalling it ?
[08:13] <sewoyl> pff sorry about the typos
[08:13] <GnuKemist> Chii_Chan, wise words  ;)
[08:13] <thoreauputic> sewoyl: yes, install checkinstall
[08:13] <apokryphos> hi thoreauputic :)
[08:13] <tristanmike> bodaihsim, wecam
[08:13] <fmasi> Helo can some one help me i having some sound problems under ubuntu
[08:13] <Chii_Chan> Im confused about something though so could I post it?
[08:13] <jeff303> GnuKemist: well in my case, for this source code, it must have, cause I tried it and it worked
[08:13] <thoreauputic> hi apokryphos :) I guess I came back ;)
[08:13] <GnuKemist> Chii_Chan, send it priv
[08:13] <bodaihsim> tks man
[08:13] <Chii_Chan> kk
[08:13] <GnuKemist> jeff303, I'll take your word for it then  ;)
[08:13] <sewoyl> thoreauputic, package checkinstall ?
[08:14] <thoreauputic> !info checkinstall
[08:14] <ubotu> checkinstall: (installation tracker), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.5.3-3 (hoary), Packaged size: 34 kB, Installed size: 132 kB
[08:14] <bodaihsim> tks man
[08:14] <thoreauputic> sewoyl: in universe, as you see
[08:14] <jeff303> GnuKemist: furthermore... it looks like GNU Autoconf automatically makes the uninstall rule
[08:14] <tristanmike> bodaihsim, webcams are flaky, try GnomeMeeting
[08:14] <sewoyl> thoreauputic, hmm yes found it :) gonna give it a tru
[08:14] <apokryphos> thoreauputic: yup :P. A really great read, by the way http://dot.kde.org/1127515635/ pretty funny
[08:14] <jeff303> GnuKemist: http://lug.mtu.edu/lists/lug-l-0302/msg00012.html
[08:14] <GnuKemist> jeff303, thanx a bunch
[08:15] <RntedMule> Can someone help me with remastering a livecd? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=68594 (I am desperate, so this message is on a 10min timer)
[08:15] <tristanmike> bodaihsim, "wecam" was my typo, sorry.. :)
[08:15] <da0gre> anyone here have a WORKING xorg.confg file for a rage128 ibook?
[08:15] <thoreauputic> RntedMule: no timers please
[08:15] <tristanmike> RntedMule, you are trying to burn in Ubuntu?
[08:15] <tristanmike> the timer has been 10 minutes for like 20, lol
[08:15] <bodaihsim> tristanmike, ok i try
[08:17] <thoreauputic> tristanmike: he was already +q ed by seveas, so he's evading that as well
[08:17] <abbylee> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on an old laptop (PII 300) that doesn't boot to cd rom.  I tried using the Smart Boot Manager, but while it recognizes my cdrom, it still won't boot to it.  Can anyone help me brainstorm alternatives?
[08:17] <tritium> da0gre, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and be sure to use the "ati" driver
[08:17] <cmartine> how do you force rw mounting of a ntfs filesystem?
[08:17] <cmartine> just booted off of live
[08:17] <tristanmike> thoreauputic, some people are so thick headed lol
[08:17] <cmartine> cant edit or modify XP filesystem
[08:17] <Zodiac> guys, how can I tell if synaptic stalled?
[08:17] <thoreauputic> tristanmike: ;)
[08:17] <da0gre> trit: thanks, ill try that
[08:17] <emile> !ntfs
[08:17] <ubotu> well, ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.
[08:18] <Zodiac> its been setting up ubuntu desktop for like 10 minutes
[08:18] <emile> cmartine: ntfs is readonly
[08:18] <docgnome> I'm having rpoblems getting wvdial to work for me. I know that the it is seen and i can talk to it. but wvdialconf has problems setting the max baud, and so it just gives up.
[08:19] <eagleye> Can someone tell me how to get the multiverse, I have universe but multiverse doesnt show
[08:19] <Zodiac> Was there a fix for the bug reported yesterday in Breezy?
[08:19] <GnuKemist> goodbye everyone... happy hacking
[08:19] <tritium> eagleye, add multiverse at the end of each line where you have universe (except the security line)
[08:20] <cmartine> ubotu, dont want to automatically mount it, i want to manually mount it rw
[08:20] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, cmartine
[08:20] <stpere> cmartine, ubotu is a bot
[08:20] <tritium> cmartine, write support on NTFS is very risky
[08:20] <cmartine> i booted off live and am trying to change some files on it
[08:20] <cmartine> yes its very risky but how do you mount it rw
[08:20] <eagleye> Not sure what you mean. Im still new
[08:21] <tristanmike> you guys make ubotu too smart
[08:21] <cmartine> tryind mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt -o rw
[08:21] <cmartine> tried mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt -o rw
[08:21] <sorush20> how do I get my printer hotplug system to be restared with out me having to restart the computer..
[08:21] <cmartine> but keeps mounting ro
[08:21] <cmartine> wtf !!!!
[08:21] <docgnome> Does anyone know anything aobut wvdial?
[08:21] <shinu> cmartine: you cant write on ntfs
[08:21] <stpere> cmartine, the ntfs module in the kernel has to support the write option
[08:21] <tritium> cmartine, are you listening to us?
[08:21] <eagleye> Not sure what you mean tritium Im still new
[08:22] <tritium> !tell eagleye about repositories
[08:22] <cmartine> aaaaaaaaaaaah tritium finally speaks in english
[08:22] <tritium> always have been, cmartine
[08:22] <cmartine> kernel has to support write option
[08:22] <da0gre> tritium: I did that, and selected ati, but i still get (EE) R128{0}: Failed to open framebuffer device....
[08:22] <elvirolo> /joi #kubuntu
[08:22] <eagleye> I did add the universe repository, but multiverse dont show up
[08:22] <cmartine> sure tritium, trying to get an easy answer from ya is like ....
[08:23] <cmartine> see how easy that was
[08:23] <tritium> cmartine, what is your problem?
[08:23] <da0gre> im trying to use jonathan btw
[08:23] <cmartine> kernel has to support it ... duh
[08:23] <tritium> cmartine, no, it does not.
[08:23] <tritium> be polite, cmartine
[08:23] <cmartine> then why doesnt mount -o rw work?
[08:23] <cmartine> if it doesnt
[08:23] <LinuxJones> sorush20, sudo /etc/init.d/hotplug restart
[08:23] <abbylee> Does anyone know how to install ubuntu on a computer that won't boot to cd when Smart Boot Manager won't work?
[08:23] <shinu> cmartine: you can get some other thing from sf.net i think that allows you to write on ntfs
[08:24] <tristanmike> cmartine, Microsoft keeps their stuff secret, so it has to be reversed engineered, and since NTFS is still quite new, not as of yet, but it's comming along
[08:24] <shinu> cmartine: but its kinda risky so..
[08:24] <stpere> cmartine, write access on ntfs doesn't allow you to write new files or change the size of files, IIRC
[08:24] <LinuxJones> sorush20, but you shouldn't need to do that
[08:24] <cmartine> all i wanted was to fix my iexplore.exe
[08:24] <cmartine> keeps crashing
[08:24] <tritium> cmartine, we have a code of conduct here.  Please be polite where you're in #ubuntu
[08:24] <cmartine> says its already updated
[08:24] <tristanmike> cmartine, what makes you believe you can fix it from Linux?
[08:25] <cmartine> im  a bsd unix geek , trying to work with linux on a windows fs
[08:25] <cmartine> adios amigos
[08:25] <fmasi> enny one has enny special kernel in mide that i should use whith ubuntu ? Becouse gone recompile it
[08:25] <stpere> weird :-P
[08:26] <Zodiac> They did release a fix :)
[08:26] <Zodiac> hooray for breezy
[08:26] <oga> hello, if I place a shipit request for cds, will the breezy badger be shipped or hoary?
[08:26] <tritium> fmasi, just the default is fine
[08:26] <stpere> oga, breezy
[08:26] <da0gre> tritium: the xconfig thing i ran is using ati /and/ "UseFBDev", is that right?
[08:27] <tritium> da0gre, try without
[08:27] <Chii_Chan> I am starting to enjoy this, hehe.  Working with linux as I try to get ndiswrapper to work Im learning a lot more than I would have imagined previously
[08:27] <waterbear> !info linux-source-2.6.11
[08:27] <fmasi> tritium, and whith vertion should i take
[08:27] <ubotu> linux-source-2.6.11: (Linux kernel source for version 2.6.11 with Ubuntu patches), section universe/devel, is optional. Version: 2.6.11-0.2 (hoary), Packaged size: 37214 kB, Installed size: 37344 kB
[08:27] <da0gre> trit: then i get error 7
[08:27] <tritium> fmasi, which release are you using?
[08:27] <oga> stpere, ok. in october though?
[08:27] <tritium> waterbear, 2.6.11 is not supported
[08:27] <Ninjew> quick question: there is no amd64 compile of openoffice2, is there?
[08:27] <fmasi> de defauld one that come whith ubuntu
[08:28] <stpere> oga, yep
[08:28] <tritium> fmasi, hoary?
[08:28] <fmasi> tritium,  2.6.10-5-386
[08:28] <tritium> fmasi, why do you want to recompile?
[08:28] <fmasi> tritium, yep
[08:28] <othernoob> did ubuntu drop the ia64 support?
[08:28] <fmasi> tritium, I having sound problems and i ges its the kernel
[08:29] <da0gre> tritium: here is the exact error "(EE) R128(0): Cannont read V_BIOS(5)" also, it skips several modules because no symbols are found
[08:29] <tritium> fmasi, are you sure?
[08:29] <waterbear> othernoob: It never had Itanium support, AFAIK.
[08:29] <tritium> da0gre, have you looked at /var/log/Xorg.0.log /
[08:29] <tritium> >
[08:29] <fmasi> tritium, also it takes long time to load all modules
[08:29] <fmasi> tritium, not sure its the kernel
[08:29] <othernoob> waterbear: you sure? there were packages for ia64
[08:30] <fmasi> tritium, maby its gnome dont know i use to use kde so i lost in gnome
[08:30] <waterbear> othernoob: You sure you don't mean x86-64 or amd64?
[08:30] <fmasi> tritium, ther is no control center
[08:30] <othernoob> waterbear: yes i'm sure
[08:30] <tritium> fmasi, did you at least check the mixer to make sure it's not muted?
[08:30] <waterbear> othernoob: Then, the answer to your question is yes.
[08:31] <wezzer> is there nice and simple vu meter available for gnome?
[08:31] <fmasi> tritium, my xmms or enny other program freez when i want to play mp3 and the mpg123 is instaled
[08:31] <fmasi> tritium, whes
[08:31] <fmasi> tritium, its at max
[08:31] <da0gre> tritium "(WW) R128(0): Video BIOS not found!" and a bunch of "not using def. mode "##x##"" messages
[08:31] <othernoob> waterbear: which? the first one or the one whether or not you're sure? ;)
[08:31] <stpere> fmasi, it's probably not really freezing
[08:31] <fmasi> tritium,  but ther seams to have 2 sound bords on wile i only have one
[08:31] <abbylee> Is there anyone who can help me with installing ubuntu on my laptop which will not boot to cd rom and Smart Boot Manager won't work?  I figure I could partition my harddrive and put a copy of the install files there, but I don't know how to partition something that's not fat with my dos fdisk.
[08:32] <stpere> fmasi, it usually means you have a process using the soundcard
[08:32] <fmasi> tritium, some distorced sound comes from gaim
[08:32] <Hendric> how can i disable the time synch during startup??? it consumes a lot of time
[08:32] <stpere> fmasi, you have to configure xmms to use the esd output
[08:32] <waterbear> othernoob: The first one.
[08:32] <fmasi> gona try
[08:32] <stpere> fmasi, because you already have a esd process using your sound card
[08:33] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell abbylee about install
[08:33] <apokryphos> abbylee: a few other methods for installation there
[08:33] <fmasi> tritium,  i used to usa gaim and xmms at same time in gentoo
[08:33] <test34> Hendric, sudo update-rc.d -f ntpdate remove
[08:33] <tritium> fmasi, you can in ubuntu too
[08:33] <tritium> da0gre, not sure, dude
[08:33] <da0gre> k, thanks
[08:33] <fmasi> tritium, fo
[08:33] <da0gre> gonna try google with my newfound info
[08:33] <fmasi> tritium, ops now xmms whont start
[08:33] <thegeekdom> Hey, has anybody installed ubuntu from a floppy  ?
[08:34] <abbylee> apokryphos, thank you.  I've been trying and playing, and I just can't get it to work.
[08:34] <fmasi> tritium, lol that pc its vary crasy
[08:34] <fmasi> tritium, what librarys should i add to be able to play mp3
[08:34] <tritium> !mp3
[08:34] <ubotu> [mp3]  read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[08:35] <thegeekdom> I am trying to install to a laptop that does not have a CD rom.  Does anybody know how to do that ?
[08:36] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell thegeekdom about install
[08:36] <markus_> hi
[08:36] <tritium> thegeekdom, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[08:37] <Chii_Chan> how could I get the wpa_supplicant package if sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant doesnt work? >.<
[08:38] <tritium> Chii_Chan, add the universe repo
[08:38] <chamikal> Hi
[08:38] <chamikal> I have upgraded to breezt
[08:38] <sfgwer122SF34> hi, can anyone help, i've just this minute installed Ubuntu 5.10, but when it came up for the initial logon, the screen is displayed twice on the monitor, in the top left and top right at about a quarter size each.
[08:38] <chamikal> breezy
[08:38] <oga> what if the monitor is at 60-70Hz in Hoary. In Windows I can have 85Hz at 1024 resolution. Do I have to install proper drivers?
[08:39] <rajeev> hello all
[08:39] <chamikal> and X didn't work and it works before on Hoary using mga server
[08:39] <rajeev> just configured LG110 CDMA phone to connect to the internet
[08:39] <chamikal> and x-window-system is virtual
[08:39] <apokryphos> chamikal: what's the error? Was the whole install smooth?
[08:40] <mae> anyone want/need a gmail invite?
[08:40] <rajeev> anyone else use this
[08:40] <Hendric> whats wrong with my network setup?? i can ping d DNS.. can ping the Gateway.. but firefox or other internet program just keeps on loading forever and nothing comes out...
[08:40] <chamikal> apokryphos : yep
[08:40] <chamikal> apokryphos : and I have ubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-base
[08:40] <tritium> oga, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and fix the refresh rates
[08:40] <JerkHead> How about instead of +q and +b ing me, some of your jerks TRY helping me out
[08:40] <Hendric> it doesn't give any error... its just keeps on loading
[08:41] <tritium> JerkHead, why not be polite?
[08:41] <chamikal> apokryphos : Xorg.log tells me that I miss some font
[08:41] <JerkHead> I AM.
[08:41] <dylan_> why cant i install w32codecs?  i get the message from apt  :  Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:41] <dylan_> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[08:41] <dylan_> is only available from another source
[08:41] <dylan_> E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate
[08:41] <lasse> what do i do whit a *.img file (it shout bea a film)
[08:41] <ginoo> holy spam batman
[08:41] <apokryphos> dylan_: don't paste in here please :)
[08:41] <dylan_> apokryphos, ok sorry
[08:41] <thegeekdom> ubotu.  I read that but it appears to be pointing to creating a boot rom and I do not want to do a diskless workstation.
[08:41] <apokryphos> !tell dylan_ about w32codecs
[08:42] <dacrepair> hello again
[08:42] <Hendric> whats wrong with my network setup?? i can ping d DNS.. can ping the Gateway.. but firefox or other internet program just keeps on loading forever and nothing comes out...
[08:42] <chamikal> apokryphos : and tells me to add x-window-system and x-window-system-core I have x-window-system-core
[08:42] <apokryphos> dylan_: grab one of those debs, then you can install it
[08:42] <tritium> JerkHead, play nicely
[08:42] <dylan_> apokryphos, is it dpkg -i /file/
[08:42] <Chii_Chan> okey Im stuck >.< how do I add the universe repository
[08:42] <chamikal> somebody who is running breezy can tell me if x-window-system is virtual or not ?
[08:42] <apokryphos> dylan_: dpkg -i package.deb  ..yes
[08:42] <dylan_> apokryphos, thanks a billion
[08:42] <dacrepair> i've been looking up how to get better resolutions mor forcably
[08:42] <dacrepair> i have yet to get it to work
[08:43] <JerkHead> tritium: WHat part am I not playing nicely about? I put an unobtrusive 10min timer up so I could get some help from someone possibly when Im not here
[08:43] <JerkHead> because it seems no one currently can
[08:43] <tritium> No timers, JerkHead
[08:43] <JerkHead> but after one or two, Im squelched
[08:43] <JerkHead> what ELSE am I supposed to do?
[08:43] <bob2> JerkHead: have you tried the mailing list? the forums? paid support?
[08:43] <jtheodas> hi, anyone installed skype on breezy badger?
[08:44] <justin123> I'm having real trouble with my hardrive
[08:44] <Hendric> can anyone help me with my problem??
[08:44] <justin123> my system wont boot
[08:44] <JerkHead> bob2: Ive tried the forums AND mailing list. I will not pay for help reburning a livecd
[08:44] <bob2> JerkHead: great
[08:44] <justin123> /dev/hda3: Duplicate/bad block(s) in inode 5033743: 142812
[08:44] <justin123> /dev/hda3: (There are 27932 inodes containing duplicate/bad blocks.)/dev/hda3: Duplicate/bad block(s) in inode 5033743: 142812
[08:44] <justin123> /dev/hda3: (There are 27932 inodes containing duplicate/bad blocks.)
[08:44] <justin123> sorry
[08:44] <tritium> justin123, no pasting ;)
[08:44] <Chii_Chan> never mind, found it
[08:44] <bob2> JerkHead: what was the subject of your post to the ubuntu-user list?
[08:44] <JerkHead> bob2: as a matter of fact, my request for help pointed right to my forum post
[08:44] <justin123> what can i do?
[08:44] <bob2> justin123: did your system shut down uncleanly?
[08:45] <JerkHead> bob2: "Need help remastering LiveCD"
[08:45] <dylan_> how do i get totem to play embedded movies on the internet?  i installed w32codecs but its not working.  what package do i install?
[08:45] <justin123> yes, i was in the middle of installing openssh server from synaptic
[08:45] <bob2> JerkHead: remastering != reburning
[08:45] <justin123> it failed and then when i rebooted it says my file system is corrupted
[08:45] <arkanes> justin123: are you using ext3?
[08:45] <justin123> yes
[08:45] <bob2> justin123: you can probably ignore it then
[08:45] <chamikal> dylan_ : try to see if codec are in /usr/lib/win32
[08:45] <JerkHead> bob2: sure it is... my goal is to eventually REMASTER it, but for now, I cant even REBURN it
[08:46] <bob2> JerkHead: you're getting obnoxious again
[08:46] <justin123> bob2, it wont let me boot, fsck cant fix it. it says to run fsck manually, but their are 100's of errors
[08:46] <dylan_> chamikal, what is the name of the file that i should be looking for?
[08:46] <justin123> so I end up holding down the Y key for yes forever
[08:46] <chamikal> dylan_ : otherwise grab "all" codec pack in mplayerhq.hu and copy it to /usr/lib/win32
[08:46] <bob2> JerkHead: if it fails to burn, it's almost certainly a hardware problem, or an issue with your burning software
[08:46] <chamikal> dylan_ : some dll :)
[08:46] <bob2> JerkHead: are you burning it on ubuntu?
[08:46] <JerkHead> Its looking for SOMETHING to identify it as an Ubuntu CD, but somehow it gets lost in the whole process
[08:46] <dylan_> chamikal, ok ill tell you if it works or not.. k?
[08:46] <dacrepair> is there a way to forc2 1024x768
[08:46] <chamikal> dylan_ : ok
[08:46] <dacrepair> *force
[08:46] <justin123> I'm in knoppix trying to fix it
[08:47] <oga> how big is a swap-partition meant to be with a system with 512mb ram.
[08:47] <bob2> JerkHead: and you checked the md5sum of the cd you burnt, and it was correct?
[08:47] <oga> with ubuntu.
[08:47] <justin123> It sucks I have my term paper on there
[08:47] <bob2> oga: 1GB is plenty
[08:47] <JerkHead> bob2: no. Slackware. Would you like a link to my forum post? What I am doing is rather straight forward
[08:47] <tristanmike> oga, double
[08:47] <dylan_> chamikal, is it the essential package?
[08:47] <oga> aight. thanks.
[08:47] <bob2> oga: you can get away with a lot less if you're not planning to suspend to disk
[08:47] <JerkHead> bob2: The MD5sum of the original iso is correct, yes
[08:47] <justin123> Any one have any ideas? I cant loose my term paper
[08:48] <bob2> JerkHead: "original iso"? I mean the cd you burnt; does that match?
[08:48] <bob2> justin123: fsck has a -y option...
[08:48] <da0gre> ok, (heads ut tritium) Im trying to get jonathan to install on a ibookg3 using only the vga out(broken screen).  Console works great, but x wont load.  In the xorg log, it says it cant find a valid FB device, and it checks fb1-fb7, but fb0 which /is/ the valid device... Anythoughts?
[08:48] <dacrepair> also has anybody tried doom3 for linux?
[08:48] <Hendric> whats wrong with my network setup?? i can ping d DNS.. can ping the Gateway.. but firefox or other internet program just keeps on loading forever and nothing comes out...
[08:48] <bob2> Hendric: can you ping google.com?
[08:48] <JerkHead> bob2: I wouldnt imagine it would. Depending on a lot of factors, it would be different, just based on my mkisofs options
[08:49] <bob2> JerkHead: so, using mkisofs != burning an ubuntu iso
[08:49] <justin123> bob2, idiotically I just noticed that as you were saying it, I just hope it can repair it
[08:49] <chamikal> dylan_ : brb
[08:49] <justin123> i wonder why installing openshs server did all this
[08:49] <justin123> ssh : )
[08:49] <bob2> JerkHead: so your question is really about remastering, it has nothing to do with "reburning"
[08:49] <tritium> da0gre, not sure about that
[08:49] <Hendric> it will stop responding if i ping google.com
[08:49] <JerkHead> bob2: please look at this -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=68594
[08:49] <JerkHead> bob2: then you will understand what/what isnt going on
[08:50] <da0gre> is there a way to force x which FB devices to check on startup? Its just not checking the one that exists is all
[08:50] <Hendric> bob2: the network tool hangs up if i ping google.com
[08:50] <bob2> if you've really been berating people about "reburning" a CD when you really meant "remastering", I'll be quite annoyed
[08:50] <bob2> since you were rude for no actual reason
[08:50] <bob2> Hendric: ignore the network tool
[08:51] <Hendric> what should i do bob2??
[08:51] <bob2> JerkHead: that seems rather pointless
[08:51] <bob2> Hendric: aren't you using DHCP?
[08:51] <chamikal> re
[08:51] <JerkHead> bob2: Like I said... my goal is remastering, but I cant even get a 1-to-1 reburning working
[08:51] <Luis_e54> fgjfgfd
[08:51] <Luis_e54> join venezuela
[08:52] <dylan_> chamikal, i get the message from Totem:  No URI handler implemented for "fd://0"
[08:52] <bob2> JerkHead: no, stop using incorrect terminology like that
[08:52] <bob2> the cd burns fine
[08:52] <dylan_> chamikal, what do i do from there
[08:52] <Hendric> i'm not using DHCP...
[08:52] <Luis_e54> fgfdg
[08:52] <bob2> Hendric: then don't bother with any gnome tools at all; just edit /etc/network/interfaces
[08:52] <Luis_e54> hello
[08:52] <chamikal> dylan_ : which backend did u use ? gstreamer or xine ?
[08:52] <Hendric> i did d same thing on the other PC with different specs it workd fine...
[08:53] <chamikal> dylan_ : try to install totem-xine
[08:53] <Hendric> could it be the lancard being incompatible?
[08:53] <dylan_> chamikal, gstreamer
[08:53] <JerkHead> bob2: Look... reburning TO ME would be to take the ISO and TRY burning again. The fact that I am disassembling the ISO and remaking it constitutes REMASTERING. While my example is simple, that is only to debug the issue
[08:53] <Chii_Chan> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26623&highlight=wpa  On here when I install the WPA supplicant and configure it.  Do I copy it AS IS and then end up filling my ess id and pass when given some sort of option.  Or do I fill in my ess id and pw for the slot in there
[08:53] <chamikal> dylan_ : try to install totem-xine ;-)
[08:53] <dylan_> chamikal, ok hold on...thanks in advance btw
[08:53] <bob2> JerkHead: well, whatever, you seem way out of your depth if you're going to argue silly things like that
[08:53] <dylan_> chamikal, ok installed
[08:53] <bob2> JerkHead: I assume you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDCustomizationHowTo?
[08:54] <chamikal> dylan_ : totem-gstreamer didn't use win32 codec yet
[08:54] <chamikal> dylan_ : now it's going to work ;-)
[08:54] <dylan_> chamikal, ok lemme see if it works
[08:54] <bob2> JerkHead: it's the first hit on google for "ubuntu live cd customization +site:wiki.ubuntu.com"
[08:54] <pierre> Someone know where download Winamp for Linux?
[08:54] <Hendric> bob2: could it be the lancard being incompatible?
[08:54] <bob2> pierre: I wouldn't bother
[08:54] <tristanmike> thanks bob2, I was looking for something like that :)
[08:54] <bob2> pierre: if you really like that UI, try xmms
[08:54] <bob2> Hendric: I doubt it, unless it's just not being detected at all
[08:54] <dylan_> chamikal, it just logged me out
[08:54] <dylan_> why
[08:55] <bob2> Hendric: is it a via-rhine?
[08:55] <Psynex> anyone here running an XP - Ubuntu Dual boot setup?
[08:55] <chamikal> pierre : beep-media-player ;-)
[08:55] <JerkHead> bob2: look dude, I am trying to be civil here, but if you look at my forum post and look at the wiki howto you just posted, I am doing everything the same minus rebuilding the compressed fs, because at this point, I am doing nothing (though that wont be true once I figure out the problem)
[08:55] <chamikal> dylan_ : strange
[08:55] <Chii_Chan> I am but I dont know much yet >.<
[08:55] <Chii_Chan> I have XP Pro and this on here
[08:55] <oga> Anyone experienced when installing ubuntu hoary (the format-partition-and-install option) in installprocess. experienced that it makes the swap-partition double the size as it was before? without prompting it or anything else.
[08:55] <bob2> JerkHead: so, you followed the exact instructions on the wiki and found it did not work?
[08:55] <Hendric> bob2: it has an onboard via-rhine... but i'm using the PCI Davicom (Cnet PRO)
[08:55] <chamikal> dylan_ : which video did u try to see ?
[08:55] <bob2> Hendric: ah, ok
[08:55] <JerkHead> bob2: correct
[08:55] <Psynex> Chii_Chan: are you using XP to handle booting, or GRUB/LILO ?
[08:55] <bob2> Hendric: I don't know then, sorry
[08:55] <chamikal> dylan_ : win media ? real media ?
[08:55] <bob2> JerkHead: including rebuilding the compressed fs?
[08:55] <Chii_Chan> Grub
[08:55] <JerkHead> bob2: yes, I did
[08:55] <dylan_> quicktime
[08:56] <Hendric> bob2: i used the same settings for DNS, Gateway etc... on a realtek Card. it worked fine..
[08:56] <eagleye> anyone still help me get the multiverse repository, Cant get it to show up
[08:56] <dylan_> chamikal, quicktime - apple.com/trailers
[08:56] <chamikal> dylan_ : so it works
[08:56] <bob2> eagleye: /msg ubotu repositories
[08:56] <madcowmad> hey can someone help me play video on ubuntu?
[08:56] <dylan_> chamikal, idk yet
[08:56] <dylan_> chamikal, wait yes
[08:56] <madcowmad> i've tried everything on ubuntuguide
[08:56] <Psynex> Hmmm.... any chance anyone knows exactly what I need to enter in XP Pro Boot.ini in order to get Ubuntu to load when selected?
[08:56] <dylan_> chamikal, you're brilliant
[08:56] <chamikal> dylan_ : :)
[08:56] <[Wiebel] > Psynex: google does :P
[08:56] <bob2> JerkHead: then prepare a very very polite, coherent email for the ubuntu-devel list, where you explain exactly what you did and the exact error
[08:56] <dylan_> chamikal, ok great.....well buh bye
[08:56] <dacrepair> hey
[08:57] <bob2> JerkHead: actually send it to the list, not via the forums
[08:57] <Chii_Chan> I did not need to configure anything for grub
[08:57] <madcowmad> hey can someone help me play video on ubuntu?
[08:57] <bob2> madcowmad: "video" plays fine on ubuntu out of the box
[08:57] <chamikal> madcowmad : if you are using totem, try to install totem-xine then w32codecs
[08:57] <dylan_> chamikal, wait do you have an AIM address if you dont mind that i could have to ask you questions?
[08:57] <bob2> madcowmad: you need to be more specific if some particular thing is not working for you
[08:57] <JerkHead> bob2: I wouldnt be in such a mood if I didnt try everything at my disposal. And I fear I am going to find that its looking for something like /Ubuntu. but something is changing the name to /Ubuntu
[08:57] <[Wiebel] > to problem with totem is that it can't handle multiple stream playlists
[08:57] <[Wiebel] > (wmf streams)
[08:58] <JerkHead> bob2: I did send it to the mailing list, probably a good month ago. I also psoted on www.911cd.net/forums with no help
[08:58] <bob2> JerkHead: to the ubuntu-devel list?
[08:59] <JerkHead> No... to Ubuntu-User. I would think something like this was inappropriate for the devel list, though if you think it is, Im willing to tyr
[08:59] <dylan_> chamikal, i go to a web site and it tells me that i need to install additional plugins to see "gif".  what package do  i install there?
[08:59] <djjason> does anyone know why I am getting "dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)" when I am trying to update firefox
[08:59] <JerkHead> djjason: something crashed
[08:59] <bob2> djjason: that's not the whole error, show us the whole thing in #flood
[09:00] <madcowmad> i think i already have totem but how do i install the w32codecs?
[09:00] <bob2> djjason: if you're using the broken firefox "backport", that could explain it
[09:00] <djjason> bob3, ok I wasnt sure if I should do that....
[09:00] <tritium> Notre Dame football calls...
[09:00] <bob2> adios!
[09:00] <tritium> see you, bob2
[09:01] <chamikal> madcowmad : use synaptic from System/Administration
[09:01] <djjason> bob2, I didnt change anything ...I just got a message that updates were available for firefox and tried to install them and then I got this error...which I will paste in #flood now
[09:01] <SpudULike> I am having a real mare getting printing running on this 5.04 box.  I don't seem to be able to get Admin access to the cups server - this is the first hurdle I would like to overcome.  Can anyone else get admin rights?
[09:01] <chamikal> madcowmad : or use terminal as root and do aptitude install totem-xine
[09:01] <Chii_Chan> Brb need to reboot so that the change I made is effective
[09:01] <bob2> SpudULike: system -> administration -> printers
[09:02] <chamikal> madcowmad : ubuntu provides by default totem-gstreamer, try totem-xine works a little better even Gstreamer is great
[09:02] <SpudULike> Bob2: Yes, but can you get Admin rights there?
[09:02] <jamey3> I have just cleaned up the following Ubuntu wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[09:02] <denn^^> hi. anyone know what causes debootstrat error on install?
[09:02] <chamikal> madcowmad : if you want to keep totem-gstreamer,install gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg and then do gst-register-0.8
[09:03] <Tachyon> I'm trying to set it up so that my Ubuntu laptop can access my Windows computer over a wireless network (particularly because I've got a printer hooked up to the Windows machine) but I can't seem to get the connection set up properly.  I've got Samba installed and it was working a few weeks ago. :/
[09:03] <bob2> djjason: sudo dpkg --purge --force-depends firefox firefox-gnome-support ; sudo apt-get install firefox firefox-gnome-support
[09:03] <bob2> SpudULike: indeed
[09:03] <bob2> SpudULike: I assume you were refering to the web ui before?
[09:03] <bob2> denn^^: usually means a broken CD
[09:03] <SpudULike> bob2:I can access neither.
[09:03] <bob2> Tachyon: you need to figure out which layer has the problem
[09:04] <Lune> yes
[09:04] <bob2> SpudULike: really? what happens when you run it from the menu?
[09:04] <j0nas`> can someone help me with my intel ipw2200?  trying to use the howto at: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26623&highlight=ipw2200+wpa, ran into a problem
[09:04] <bob2> Tachyon: ie is the network broken entirely?
[09:04] <chamikal> j0nas` : if you use WEP encryption try to use hexa key no ascii
[09:05] <Tachyon> bob2: No, I can connect to the Internet properly from my Ubuntu machine, so it's on the network.  I don't think I quite know how to get it to recognise the Windows computer.  I've got my Windows machine's IP address. . . .
[09:05] <madcowmad> chamikal: i keep getting E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[09:05] <madcowmad> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[09:05] <chamikal> j0nas` : because iwconfig didn't work properly with Ascii key
[09:05] <denn^^> damn.. already wasted 3 cds burning ubuntu. anyone know how to fix debootstrap error on install?
[09:05] <bob2> madcowmad: the error is pretty clear; make sure you're running it with sudo, and that you don't have any other package management tools open
[09:05] <madcowmad> chamikal: that's when i try to do aptitude install totem-xine
[09:05] <bob2> denn^^: er, did you check if any of them burnt correctly?
[09:05] <djjason> bob2, when I perform the install it complains that package firefox does not exist
[09:06] <madcowmad> chamikal: thanks i'll try one sec
[09:06] <djjason> bob2, isnt the package mozilla-firefox
[09:06] <j0nas`> i tried hex key...
[09:06] <j0nas`> didnt work
[09:06] <chamikal> madcowmad : try sudo aptitude install totem-xine
[09:06] <bob2> djjason: it is in ubuntu, but not in the backports
[09:06] <j0nas`> then i was told it was a firmware issue
[09:06] <j0nas`> and to follw the howto
[09:06] <madcowmad> chamikal: it worked, i had synaptics open
[09:06] <j0nas`> but i am stuck trying to make ieee80211 modules because of a bug in the script
[09:06] <bob2> djjason: what does "dpkg -l firefox | tail -n1" print out?
[09:06] <chamikal> j0nas` : I have tested Laptop with ipw220 and it works
[09:06] <bob2> er
[09:06] <j0nas`> oh?
[09:06] <chamikal> madcowmad : ok
[09:06] <denn^^> bob2, how do you check?
[09:07] <bob2> any plan involving rebuilding the ipw2200 driver is probably crap
[09:07] <j0nas`> what am i doing wrong?
[09:07] <madcowmad> chamikal: what about the w32codecs?
[09:07] <bob2> denn^^: boot into expert mode and select "verify cd" from the menu
[09:07] <j0nas`> i put in the hex WEP key
[09:07] <chamikal> j0nas` : but there was no encryption
[09:07] <denn^^> bob2: i just burned the isos with alcohol
[09:07] <j0nas`> also tried the ascii string
[09:07] <denn^^> ok brb lemme try that
[09:07] <j0nas`> no luck
[09:07] <chamikal> madcowmad : try to see ubuntuguide.org to add other repository
[09:07] <chamikal> madcowmad : and then install w32codecs
[09:07] <SpudULike> bob2:Which menu?  I am using Kubuntu, so I am following System > Print Manager.  This brings up the KDE Control Centre for printers, clicking the Admin button asks me for a password.  Whose password do you put there, users, roots (assuming you've set one), someone you've set up in lppasswd, or something else???
[09:07] <edulix> hi!
[09:07] <Gizmosis> hi guyz
[09:07] <j0nas`> i need wep to work... what do i need to do?
[09:08] <djjason> bob2, its fixed...I did your purge and then fixed the broken packages and it works now
[09:08] <chamikal> j0nas` : running hoary or breezy ?
[09:08] <chamikal> j0nas` : tested on breezy
[09:08] <j0nas`> hoary... breezy as soon as its stable
[09:08] <[LethAL] > j0nas`, Which card/chipset?
[09:08] <chamikal> j0nas` : I'm on breezy right now
[09:08] <j0nas`> or would you say its reasonably stable?
[09:08] <madcowmad> chamikal: i get the error: E: Couldn't find package w32codecs
[09:09] <[LethAL] > j0nas`, I would, and Wireless works better
[09:09] <Belutz> !tell madcowmad about w32codecs
[09:09] <thoreauputic> SpudULike: possible work-around - type ' sudo kcontrol '
[09:09] <tristanmike> djjason, sorry if I'm too late, but you can check here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=68294
[09:09] <djjason> bob2, thanks alot bob2
[09:09] <bob2> but I don't use kde at all, so you might be better off asking in #kubunt
[09:09] <j0nas`> any ideas on getting wep to work for the time being?
[09:09] <bob2> SpudULike: yours
[09:09] <edulix> I have a problem with apt. I tried to install a debian package of libqt3c102-mt but I didn't succeed. apt new says "but version xx is to be installed" everytime. I want him to know that, in fact, it's NOT to be installed. everytime
[09:09] <Tachyon> bob2: I can also ping my Windows machine's IP from the Ubuntu machine.  So I guess I'm not configuring Samba right or something.
[09:09] <Belutz> #kubuntu :)
[09:09] <bob2> djjason: np
[09:09] <djjason> tristanmike, thanks but I just fixed it with the help from bob2.....
[09:09] <edulix> and apt-get -f install doesn't solve the problem, it just tries to remove 702mb of packages, nonsense!
[09:09] <bob2> Tachyon: can you access windows shares from ubuntu?
[09:09] <Tachyon> No
[09:10] <chamikal> madcowmad : http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[09:10] <bob2> edulix: wtf
[09:10] <Tachyon> bob2: I go to Places -> Network Servers and I see "Windows Network" but there's nothing in it.
[09:10] <bob2> edulix: get rid of it and don't ever do that again
[09:10] <tristanmike> djjason, yeah, just saw that, he's the better guy anyway ;)
[09:10] <chamikal> j0nas` : use iwlist and iwconfig :)
[09:10] <SpudULike> bob2: OK, well my system is definately stuffed, 'cos that doesn't work.
[09:10] <edulix> bob2: of course that's the idea hehe
[09:10] <j0nas`> i have tried
[09:11] <edulix> bob2: but how to get rid of it is the main problem now :P
[09:11] <j0nas`> it just refuses to work
[09:11] <bob2> edulix: sudo dpkg -P --force-depends libqt3c102-mt ; sudo apt-get -f install
[09:11] <bob2> edulix: assuming you unbroke your sources.list
[09:11] <bob2> edulix: and didn't install anything else from Debian
[09:11] <bob2> SpudULike: ok
[09:11] <edulix> bob2: i hope it works
[09:11] <chamikal> j0nas` : did u see output of dmesg for error ?
[09:11] <thoreauputic> edulix: I'm guessing youare trying to install skype - if so, use the statically compiled package on their site
[09:12] <Da_SWAT> how can I mount a MDF/MDS or BIN/CUE image, without converting them?
[09:12] <chamikal> j0nas` : maybe the firmware is not placed in the good rep ?
[09:12] <bob2> Da_SWAT: you can't
[09:12] <edulix> thoreauputic: good guess in fact
[09:12] <bob2> Da_SWAT: since they're not actually filesystems
[09:12] <chamikal> Da_SWAT : for bin/cue you have to convert to iso
[09:12] <chamikal> Da_SWAT : dunno how to do it without
[09:13] <noTHere> OK, I am a complete n00b! I tried running the LiveDVD and watched it set up the RAm drive and load the drivers and everything, but right after it detects my USB mouse (the last command?) it just hangs there waithing for something.  Am I supposed to type GNOMe or something? Does it usually just load the environment straight away?
[09:13] <j0nas`> chamikal: dmesg would not print messages about wep failure would it
[09:13] <oga> when I put in the Live Preview CD of Ubuntu. It does boot into a installationsprogress. Is it supposed to be like that?
[09:13] <edulix> uhm it's going to download 21.4mb of packages to upgrade, couldn't it just use the ones I have already installed? anyway, I can afford that, because it's only going to remove skype (and I'll install later the statically linked version as suggested)
[09:14] <noTHere> yeah, you just type live to start it live
[09:14] <chamikal> j0nas` : some kernel output
[09:14] <benkong2> netselect-apt-ubuntu did a sources.list and it has a breezy-backports. Is that a good repo?
[09:14] <Da_SWAT> bob2, chamikal thnx
[09:14] <ofer0> !ubuntuguide
[09:14] <ubotu> methinks ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[09:14] <chamikal> j0nas` : from the driver ipw2200
[09:14] <chamikal> Da_SWAT : np
[09:14] <oga> noTHere, I did, but got into the progress where you choose keyboard-layout etc.
[09:14] <bob2> benkong2: no
[09:14] <j0nas`> fuck it, im downloading breezy
[09:15] <benkong2> bob2; k thanks
[09:15] <Da_SWAT> bob2, chamikal  although it's a bit dissappointing. Daemon tools (windows) can virtually mount them..... :-|
[09:15] <benkong2> !faq
[09:15] <ubotu> I heard faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy)
[09:15] <chamikal> j0nas` : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=64427&highlight=ipw2200+iwconfig
[09:15] <Bettong_BOFH> anyone know if breezy can use webcams?
[09:15] <bob2> Da_SWAT: ?
[09:16] <bob2> Da_SWAT: if it contains a .iso, putting it in the form of a .bin file is stupid to begin with
[09:16] <bob2> Da_SWAT: if it doesn't have a filesystem in it, what is there to mount?
[09:16] <chamikal> Bettong_BOFH : which on did u have ? you can test by using gnomemeeting
[09:16] <bob2> Bettong_BOFH: depends on the webcam
[09:16] <Bettong_BOFH> it's a GE webcam
[09:16] <edulix> bob2: anyway, I think that apt-get has a really bad behaviour giving this problem. if you cannot install something, you cannot. why should apt-get be so stubborn that he says "I won't do anything more till you install that exact version of that package first". seems buggy behaviour to me. does aptitude fix this kind of problems?
[09:16] <chamikal> Bettong_BOFH : launch gnomemeeting ;-)
[09:17] <j0nas`> chamikaL: not sure i like the looks of that solution
[09:17] <Bettong_BOFH> do i have to get it first?
[09:17] <bob2> edulix: no, this is due to you misunderstanding how apt works
[09:17] <Bettong_BOFH> gnome-meeting?
[09:17] <eagleye> Can someone tell me how to get the multiverse, I have universe but multiverse doesnt show
[09:17] <chamikal> Bettong_BOFH : yes
[09:17] <bob2> eagleye: /msg ubotu repositories
[09:17] <Bettong_BOFH> ok
[09:17] <chamikal> j0nas` : :)
[09:17] <edulix> bob2: enlighten me please :P
[09:17] <Bettong_BOFH> for some reason breezy has it already O_o
[09:18] <bob2> eagleye: if you really think you edited the file correctly, but it's still not showing up, paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood
[09:18] <tristanmike> eagleye, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto?action=show&redirect=HowToEnableTheMultiverseRepositoryInUbuntu
[09:18] <Da_SWAT> bob2, correct questions. But because I'm a former windows user, I still need to ..... uhhh..... 'learn' :P
[09:18] <Seveas> mode #ubuntu +r
[09:18] <chamikal> eagleye : http://ubuntu.ttoine.net/source.list.php?liste%5B%5D=deb+http%3A%2F%2Farchive.ubuntu.com%2Fubuntu%2F+hoary+main+restricted+universe+multiverse&liste%5B%5D=deb+http%3A%2F%2Farchive.ubuntu.com%2Fubuntu%2F+hoary-updates+main+restricted+universe+multiverse&liste%5B%5D=deb+http%3A%2F%2Fsecurity.ubuntu.com%2Fubuntu%2F+hoary-security+main+restricted+universe&ok=G%C3%A9n%C3%A9rer
[09:18] <j0nas`> chamikal: oh well... been wanting to give breezy a try for a while now anyway :)
[09:18] <bob2> Da_SWAT: didn't mean to be harsh, sorry
[09:18] <chamikal> j0nas` : ;-)
[09:19] <linner> hello Seveas ... could you help me with an install problem?
[09:19] <chamikal> j0nas` :  Xorg failed because some xfonts* package missing
[09:19] <j0nas`> chamikal: ?
[09:19] <chamikal> j0nas` :  don't forget to re/install ubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-base
[09:19] <linner> i just reinstalled ubuntu breezy colony 5... last night... and is not starting the x-server
[09:19] <chamikal> j0nas` :  for my case
[09:19] <linner> I have an ATI 200M card...
[09:20] <j0nas`> ok... it will let me log into shell though still, right?
[09:20] <chamikal> I have a Matrox G400
[09:20] <SpudULike> What would I need to do to add Gnome to Kubuntu?
[09:20] <denn^^> bob2, some bsd file on disc was corrupted
[09:20] <linner> and tritium was telling me that I could use the radeon driver because that's what SuSE was letting me us ...
[09:20] <chamikal> SpudUlike : ??????
[09:20] <j0nas`> chamikal: by reinstall, you mean apt-get remove, then apt-get install
[09:20] <denn^^> bob2, what's the right way to burn ubuntu?
[09:20] <chamikal> j0nas` : nope
[09:20] <mjr> SpudULike, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:20] <eamonn> SpudULike, sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop
[09:20] <mjr> SpudULike, as simple as that
[09:21] <chamikal> j0nas` : aptitude instal xfonts*** package moreover so that xorg can launch ;-)
[09:21] <linner> Seveas:  can you guide me through how to get this working?
[09:21] <bob2> linner: I really doubt that is the issue
[09:21] <SpudULike> Thanks, see, I was truing variations of install gnome !!!
[09:21] <eamonn> SpudULike, I meant: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop. mjr's right.
[09:21] <Bettong_BOFH> no useing gnome meeting is it possible to connect to a windows computer so they can see too?
[09:21] <bob2> linner: does your X log really not show what's happening?
[09:21] <linner> bob2:  what do you think is the issue?
[09:21] <j0nas`> chamikal: im sorry i still dont follow
[09:21] <linner> it's booting up now in recovery mode
[09:21] <bob2> denn^^: try it at a slower speed
[09:22] <chamikal> Beetoong_BOFH : if you want to see some Win* user cam they have to use netmeeting
[09:22] <linner> okay bob2 i'm at a root... what command do i type to bring up the x log?
[09:22] <denn^^> bob2, i did it at 4x
[09:22] <Bettong_BOFH> can i show windows users my webcam if i am useing gnome meeting?
[09:22] <j0nas`> chamikal: gnome will still start up after install?
[09:22] <chamikal> jonas : I have done an update update && aptitude dist-upgrade to switch to breezy
[09:22] <bob2> linner: less /var/log/X.whatever
[09:22] <Da_SWAT> bob2, no problem. It wasn't harsh, but I also didn't say that Windows was logical. The problem is that I made bin/cue of my copywrited game-dvd's (I'm too lazy to switch cd's and dvd's all the time) and now I just want to mount them without losing the 'copyright protection' inside the bin/cue.
[09:22] <linner> ok
[09:22] <chamikal> jonas : then I have to add some xfonts package to get it worky that's it
[09:22] <bob2> denn^^: maybe your burner is broken; try 1x and go make dinner, maybe
[09:23] <j0nas`> chamikal: you mean apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade?
[09:23] <linner> bob2:  i don't know what "whatever" means
[09:23] <chamikal> jonas : yep apt-get and aptitude do the same thing but aptitude is newer
[09:23] <bob2> linner: it means "use ls /var/log to find out what it's called, or use your shell's tab completion"
[09:23] <j0nas`> chamikal: which xfonts package?
[09:23] <bob2> Da_SWAT: hm
[09:23] <zblach> hi
[09:23] <denn^^> bob2, i'm reading some google stuff and that problem occurs even on shipped cds
[09:23] <Bettong_BOFH> bob2 any idea?
[09:24] <linner> bob2:  I do not know linux what so ever.. so i have to get exact commands unfortunately
[09:24] <zblach> is it possible to access a shared dvd burner on a windows computer?
[09:24] <chamikal> jonas : xfonts-100dpi, xfonts-75dpi, xfonts-base, xfonts-scalable
[09:24] <denn^^> 5.04 iso on web is a CD iso, right? not dvd?
[09:24] <linner> denn^^:  yes
[09:25] <j0nas`> chamikal: simply apt-get (or aptitude) install those packages?
[09:25] <chamikal> jonas : yep
[09:25] <linner> denn^^:  do you have the url?
[09:25] <j0nas`> chamikal: okay, simple enough
[09:25] <chamikal> jonas : ;-)
[09:25] <linner> denn^^:  here it is:  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/
[09:26] <bob2> denn^^: yes, some shipped cds are damaged
[09:26] <denn^^> http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso
[09:26] <denn^^> this is the one i'm burning
[09:26] <bob2> denn^^: they are not useful, tho, and should be returned (iirc)
[09:26] <tristanmike> denn^^, I think there's a dvd there somewhere too, it has the install and live and some other things too.
[09:26] <bob2> denn^^: if your cd burner is unable to burn it correctly, it's an issue with your burner or media, not a problem wwith the ubuntu iso
[09:27] <pont> AMD64 ubuntu is causing a machine check exeption
[09:27] <zblach> can one burn to a non-local dvd drive?
[09:27] <tristanmike> bob2, could the checksum be off?
[09:27] <bob2> zblach: not simply, but yes
[09:27] <SpudULike> Out of desperation now, do you think I might be able to install and use one of the other print servers like lpr?
[09:27] <zblach> bob2, what is
[09:27] <bob2> zblach: simplest would be to just ssh to the remote machine and run cdrecord there
[09:27] <zblach> its a windows box
[09:27] <bob2> zblach: then #windows or whatever
[09:28] <zblach> and a shared drive
[09:28] <bob2> I doubt windows can usefully do that
[09:28] <zblach> damn
[09:28] <bob2> tristanmike: no
[09:28] <tristanmike> ok
[09:28] <Seveas> bob2, i doubt windows can usefully do anything :)
[09:28] <denn^^> gonna burn it with another cdr-drive
[09:28] <bob2> tristanmike: if it contained the same data, it would produce the same checksum
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[09:28] <zblach> !remote drives
[09:28] <ubotu> zblach: Do they come in packets of five?
[09:28] <Seveas> ubotu, I wish :)
[09:28] <ubotu> Seveas: I don't know, could you explain it?
[09:28] <zblach> !no, damnit. and thats the problem
[09:28] <edulix> thanks bob2, bye!
[09:28] <tristanmike> bob2, unless the download was corrupted?
[09:29] <Seveas> zblach, win server lin client or other way around?
[09:29] <bob2> tristanmike: then the md5sum of the .iso wouldn't match, either
[09:29] <bob2> denn^^: did you check that it downloaded correctly?
[09:29] <zblach> Seveas, correct
[09:29] <Seveas> zblach, which one :)
[09:29] <tristanmike> bob2, ahh, I see, thanx for clearing that up
[09:29] <zblach> Seveas, win server, lin client
[09:29] <pont> what kernel does Ubuntu 5.10 use ?
[09:30] <Seveas> zblach, install smbfs and try out http://ubuntulinux.nl/files/addsamba
[09:30] <zblach> well, linux HDD-> windows DVD from linux
[09:30] <bob2> tristanmike: that is a good point, tho, I didn't think to check if denn^^ had downloaded it correctly
[09:30] <bob2> pont: a heavily patched 2.6.12
[09:30] <denn^^> how do i check?
[09:30] <Seveas> zblach, eh?
[09:30] <Seveas> that sounds weird
[09:30] <denn^^> i just used flashget to download it
[09:31] <bob2> denn^^: on windows? download md5sum.exe
[09:31] <denn^^> what do i compare the md5 to?
[09:31] <denn^^> where do i get the original md5sum i mean
[09:31] <bob2> same place you downloaded it from
[09:31] <bob2> in the MD5SUM file, iirc
[09:31] <pont> bob2, Im confused i think i will install ubunu another dy
[09:31] <Seveas> yup bob2
[09:31] <pont> day
[09:31] <zenlunatic> If I download Colony 5 CD (Breezy) and install will I be able to upgrade to the newest version when Breezy official/stable/release (whatever you call it) is released?
[09:31] <denn^^> http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ ?
[09:32] <bob2> pont: ok...
[09:32] <bob2> zenlunatic: yes
[09:32] <eamonn> zenlunatic, yes.
[09:32] <[klined] > I am trying to find a hotkey program that will let me use alt-q for numerbpad 7, alt-a for numerbpad 4, etc... there is AutoHotkey for windows but it doesn't work correctly under wine, and ideas?
[09:32] <zenlunatic> bob2, eamonn would that be a apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade? or apt-get upgrade?
[09:32] <tristanmike> bob2, yeah, my friend had a similar problem, turned out to be checksum
[09:33] <bob2> zenlunatic: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeGuide
[09:33] <bob2> tristanmike: remember that the checksum itself is just a shorthand for refering to the data itself
[09:33] <bob2> tristanmike: mismatched checksum = mismatched data
[09:33] <eamonn> zunlunatic, as bob2 said. It's not that complicated, but do read that doc.
[09:34] <[klined] > I am trying to find a hotkey program that will let me use alt-q for numerbpad 7, alt-a for numerbpad 4, etc... there is AutoHotkey for windows but it doesn't work correctly under wine, and ideas?
[09:34] <Bettong_BOFH> can gnome meeting communicate with windows users?
[09:34] <tristanmike> bob2, yeah, thanx :)
[09:34] <denn^^> bob2, this is the md5 i got from my file f6b3f164c99761234858a4d2c12d0840
[09:34] <[klined] > hm
[09:34] <denn^^> bob2, on my ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso
[09:34] <bob2> eagleye: you didn't actually tell it to use the multiverse repository
[09:34] <bob2> denn^^: and is that the same as in MD5SUMS?
[09:35] <bob2> Bettong_BOFH: yes
[09:35] <Bettong_BOFH> ok how?>
[09:35] <bob2> [klined] : no need to repeat
[09:35] <eagleye> umm, how do i do that.
[09:35] <bob2> [klined] : you can almost certainly do that with xmodmap, but it won't be simple
[09:35] <denn^^> bob2, i can't find the original md5
[09:35] <eamonn> zunlunatic, actually it's https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[09:35] <bob2> denn^^: yes you can
[09:35] <tristanmike> md5 is correct
[09:35] <eamonn> zenlunatic, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[09:35] <denn^^> oh i see it
[09:35] <bob2> eagleye: by really following the page I pointed you at
[09:35] <Bettong_BOFH> Bob2 ok how do they do that?
[09:35] <[klined] > bob2: thanks
[09:35] <foxiness> smart link modem work with hory but not with breezy -update the kernel- i can not test than breezy online just offline!
[09:35] <bob2> Bettong_BOFH: what?
[09:36] <Bettong_BOFH> bob2 use gnomemeeting?
[09:36] <tristanmike> was a shot in the dark
[09:36] <denn^^> what's a good app to burn ubuntu iso with? all i've used is alcohol so far
[09:36] <bob2> Bettong_BOFH: nevermind then
[09:37] <eagleye> I believe I did, can you tell me that page again.. thank you
[09:37] <Bettong_BOFH> um ok
[09:37] <hypn0> denn^^, any cd burning app should work
[09:37] <bob2> Bettong_BOFH: if you want help, you need to ask a more specific question
[09:37] <Bettong_BOFH> so gnomemeeting can't comunicate with windows
[09:37] <bob2> Bettong_BOFH: yes, it can
[09:37] <thellama> im downloading breezy live col. 5 at 600kb/s! woohoo! I love speeddownload
[09:37] <Bettong_BOFH> ok so how do they do that?
[09:37] <bob2> your question is just too soul-crushingly annoying for me to answer
[09:37] <bob2> "they"?
[09:38] <Bettong_BOFH> like how can i let my boss who uses windows see what i want him to useing my web cam?
[09:38] <bob2> by connecting to him with gnomemeeting
[09:38] <hypn0> Bettong_BOFH, it can with netmeeting i think, u need to install the windows codec on gnomemeeting site
[09:38] <tristanmike> he needs to use netmeeting an you need what bob2 said
[09:39] <Bettong_BOFH> ok
[09:39] <Bettong_BOFH> thanx
[09:39] <tristanmike> and hypn0 too ;)
[09:39] <thellama> any reason why I can't install debian, kubuntu or ubuntu on my imac g5?
[09:40] <Arkainium> what are the disadvantages of using the universe packages>
[09:40] <eagleye> Hey bob2>I believe I did, can you tell me that page again.. I would appreciate it.. and thank you
[09:40] <thoreauputic> Arkainium: none really unless you need support from Canonical
[09:40] <thellama> what is Canonical?
[09:40] <harvey> i was wondering where i can get the ubuntu kernel sources
[09:41] <offbyone> Hola
[09:41] <bob2> eagleye: wtf
[09:41] <thoreauputic> thellama: the company who started Ubuntu
[09:41] <thellama> ah
[09:41] <D1> harvey, i think you can do apt-get install linux-tree
[09:41] <thellama> thanks
[09:41] <bob2> eagleye: scroll up and find it
[09:41] <D1> or linux-source
[09:41] <eamonn> Arkainium, none that I've noticed, unless you're in a very restricted environment such as a school. You can't get *official* support on universe packages, but I haven't used official support at all (since Warty) and haven't felt any pain.
[09:41] <D1> one or the other.
[09:41] <bob2> thellama: www.canonical.com
[09:41] <offbyone> Any (pseudo?) experts at Xorg configuration hanging about here?
[09:41] <Arkainium> so the only way I might actually break something is by using backports?
[09:41] <thellama> thanks
[09:41] <harvey> d1 thanks
[09:41] <bob2> offbyone: it's way way simpler if you just ask your question
[09:41] <offbyone> bob2, you have a point.
[09:41] <eamonn> Arkainium, yes, backports are evil.
[09:42] <Chii_Chan> Anyone here have much experience with ndiswrapper?  Having trouble with a part :/
[09:42] <offbyone> I'm trying to figure out where the screen resolution preferences app gets its list of resolutions from
[09:42] <Gizmosis>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY iloveyou
[09:42] <Seveas> Arkainium, you not only might, depending on the source you WILL break things
[09:42] <Seveas> Gizmosis, time to change passwords...
[09:42] <Chii_Chan> Only backport which is usefull in FireFox is session saver
[09:42] <eagleye> sorry, but I cant scroll that far up, Sorry to bother you.....
[09:42] <thellama> hahahahahahhaa
[09:42] <offbyone> Since it's not showing the two that I've specified in xorg.conf, but appears to instead show all the other ones.
[09:42] <thoreauputic> Arkainium: well of course you can break your system in all sorts of imaginative ways ;-)
[09:42] <Seveas> Gizmosis,  /msg nickserv set password new_password
[09:42] <Chii_Chan> Gizmosis you should do that
[09:42] <Arkainium> heh.  ok, just wanted to be sure before adding any other repositories to my apt sources.  :P
[09:42] <offbyone> Basically, I want to (and, since it was working in Windows, know I can) run at 1600x1200, 70Hz
[09:43] <Chii_Chan> as someone can now kick you off your name by ghosting you
[09:43] <offbyone> But there doesn't appear to be a way to force it.
[09:43] <zenlunatic> why do in the screenshots I see breezy fonts don't look as good as hoary fonts on my system when I have default settings?
[09:44] <offbyone> Anyone know how to go about fixing this?
[09:44] <HasHHeadZ> thats better
[09:44] <agl> I need help. I tried to upgrade firefox in synaptic and now I have a broken package and it wont reinstall or open firefox. Can anyone advice me, I am a new ubuntu user.
[09:44] <thoreauputic> !tell offbyone about fixres
[09:44] <satori> upgrading to breezy.. getting this
[09:44] <satori> locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
[09:44] <satori> locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
[09:44] <satori> locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
[09:45] <satori> is that normal?
[09:45] <thellama> Ubotu: give me some cheese
[09:45] <ubotu> No idea, thellama
[09:45] <thellama> Ubotu: why?
[09:45] <ubotu> Why not?
[09:45] <Chii_Chan> I downloaded and installed breezy off the bat so Idont know >.<
[09:45] <satori> and worse is it bad
[09:45] <satori> lol
[09:45] <eamonn> agl, do you use backports? There's been a problem, since backports uses a package called firefox and the official ubuntu uses mozilla-firefox
[09:45] <thellama> ubotu: voulez vous couchez avec moi ce soir?
[09:45] <ubotu> Wish i knew, thellama
[09:45] <lakin> Seveas, thanks for kicking me from ubuntu-unregged, but is there a way to have a bot in ubuntu-unregged which re-checks the 'registered' status and puts people back into #ubuntu.  Xchat simply fails to register me before joining #ubuntu, so I always end up in #ubuntu-unregged.
[09:46] <Chii_Chan> Anyone here now much about NdisWrapper?
[09:47] <thoreauputic> lakin: try putting your password in the server field instead of the nick field
[09:47] <lakin> thanks thoreauputic.
[09:47] <agl> hi eamonn, yes I do
[09:49] <thellama> lakin: did it work?
[09:49] <offbyone> thoreauputic, it looks like the monitor is reporting that it does not support the resolution I want, although I know that it does.
[09:49] <Toba> does anyone else get issues with nautilus suddently hogging a lot of ram and cpu for no particular reason?
[09:49] <zblach> hi
[09:49] <lakin> looks like it.
[09:49] <thellama> k
[09:49] <offbyone> How can I force it to do the resolution I want?
[09:49] <zblach> i'm in gnome. how can I switch to KDE?
[09:49] <Toba> I was trying to move some big files
[09:49] <Toba> like 30 mb each
[09:49] <Toba> so nautilus freezes and starts hogging cpu
[09:49] <thellama> zblach: did you install kde?
[09:49] <Toba> why does it suck so much?
[09:49] <zblach> thellama, yup
[09:49] <thoreauputic> offbyone: did you run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[09:49] <Chii_Chan> Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A) :
[09:49] <Chii_Chan>     SET failed on device wlan0 ; Invalid argument.
[09:49] <Chii_Chan>    Anyone know why I would be getting this when I attempt to enter the password to access my wireless network?
[09:50] <Toba> and what can I use as an alternative?
[09:50] <Ainvar> realplayer sucks really really bad when it comes to audio and all. Having to disable the esd server just to get sound.... makes me a sad sad panda
[09:50] <Arkainium> will the update to breezy from hoary be smooth when it's released?
[09:50] <thellama> it should show up at the login screen uder sessions zblach
[09:50] <zblach> ok cool.
[09:50] <offbyone> thoreauputic, a few times.  I've got about ten backups of xorg.conf lying around, now.
[09:50] <lakin> Does anyone know if the kernels in breezy come patched with the dsdt-initramfs patches which allow loading of new dsdt.dsl at boot time?
[09:51] <thoreauputic> offbyone: ah - try reading the message at the top of the xorg.conf file
[09:51] <Seveas> lakin, we can't move people from one channel to the other...
[09:51] <lakin> Seveas, you move me from #ubuntu, to #ubuntu-unregged, (or at least you redirect me there)
[09:51] <thoreauputic> offbyone: if you edited it manually, dpkg-reconfigure won't do anaything
[09:51] <Seveas> lakin, setting auto-rejoin works, during these kick-sprees I set the channel on invite only and a redirect to #ubuntu :)
[09:51] <offbyone> I see that
[09:51] <offbyone> I'll give it a shot.
[09:51] <lakin> Seveas, in any case, i've fixed it on my side, so it should be fine.
[09:52] <Seveas> (y)
[09:52] <hd420> anyone used pylucene under ubuntu?
[09:52] <pat_> hey i need some help with my sound
[09:52] <Harvey> woops
[09:52] <Harvey> i already had it open
[09:53] <Harvey> so yeah i need some help with my sound card
[09:53] <Flying-Penguin> anyone here use imwheel?
[09:53] <Harvey> the sound is all scratchy
[09:53] <Harvey> and i only have 2 working on my 5.1 system working
[09:53] <Harvey> i have a sound blaster live 24bit card
[09:55] <sorush20> is it possible tohave two computer running exactly the same configued system but one is turned off only for back up purposes..
[09:56] <sorush20> what does background this process to examin the situation mean..
[09:56] <Harvey> sorush20, use rsync but the other computer has to be on
[09:56] <hd420> anyone used pylucene under ubuntu?
[09:56] <Nomad_1> Is there a program out there for decrypting dvds and saving the resultant files on the harddrive?
[09:57] <JetlagJen> I'm having trouble with nvidia-glx. It seems to be installed, but isn't being working. Is there someone here who could help me out?
[09:57] <offbyone> thoreauputic, thanks -- I'll pop off and test this, now.
[09:58] <linner> hey ya'll... what folder would sounds be located in?
[09:58] <Nomad_1> linner, Sounds for what mate?
[09:59] <linner> Nomad_1:  gaim
[09:59] <thoreauputic> linner: /usr/share/sounds probably
[09:59] <seatouch> !tell me about ntfs
[09:59] <linner> so there isn't one folder for all sounds?
[09:59] <linner> thoreauputic:  hello :)  thank you
[09:59] <linner> thank you
[09:59] <linner> :)
[10:00] <thoreauputic> linner: yw :)
[10:00] <linner> thoreauputic:  nope... there is no sounds folder
[10:00] <seatouch> hey thoreauputic tell me which codecs to install to play mp3 and mpeg1,2,3
[10:00] <thoreauputic> linner: hang on a sec
[10:00] <linner> thoreauputic:  ok
[10:02] <thoreauputic> linner: /usr/share/sounds/gaim  << that's where mine are
[10:02] <linner> thor
[10:02] <linner> thoreauputic:  ok... let me look again
[10:02] <linner> i don't even have a gaim folder
[10:02] <linner> that's what's so weird
[10:03] <thoreauputic> linner: ls in that dir gives  >> arrive.wav  leave.wav  receive.wav  redalert.wav  send.wav
[10:03] <poweruser> how do I make folder shortcuts like in windows? So when I press a folder on my desktop I get into /urs/etc/opera
[10:03] <schadfield> Do you have GAIM installed ;-)
[10:03] <linner> thoreauputic:  nope.. no sounds folder no gaim folder
[10:03] <poweruser> for example
[10:03] <linner> schadfield:  yes
[10:03] <poweruser> anyone?
[10:03] <Tachyon> Okay . . . my machine is now on the network.  But now I'm having trouble adding a new printer.  I've got a Canon i560 hooked up to my Windows XP computer, which is connected over a wireless network, and I'm trying to use Samba to add it to my Ubuntu machine.  But every time I follow the instructions, nothing happens.  So I guess I'm entering the wrong information. . . .
[10:03] <linner> hmmm
[10:03] <thoreauputic> linner: erm - id this ubuntu ?
[10:03] <thoreauputic> *is
[10:04] <linner> thoreauputic:  why yes it is :)
[10:04] <thoreauputic> linner: how did you install gaim?
[10:04] <linner> thoreauputic:  it was already working when i loaded it
[10:04] <thoreauputic> linner: that directory *must* exist
[10:04] <linner> meaning already loaded with the OS
[10:04] <ksmurf> anyone have an idea why my wifi card would be seen with lspci but not loaded?  It was working but this morning on starting it was not found.  ???
[10:04] <linner> thoreauputic:  nope... :(
[10:04] <linner> do i need to log in as sudo?
[10:04] <thoreauputic> linner: cd /usr/share/sounds && ls -l
[10:04] <thoreauputic> no
[10:05] <linner> ok it comes up in terminal
[10:05] <linner> but not in the gui\
[10:05] <dkm> poweruser, make a launcher
[10:05] <dkm> poweruser, "create launcher" and then use the command nautilus /path/to/dir
[10:06] <thoreauputic> linner: from that directory, type  nautilus &
[10:06] <offbyone> thoreauputic, no go.
[10:06] <linner> thoreauputic:  so how to i open it?
[10:06] <offbyone> Still 1280x1024
[10:06] <linner> ok
[10:06] <prolific_> hello
[10:06] <poweruser> thanks
[10:06] <thoreauputic> linner: ^^
[10:06] <prolific_> how do i set $SOURCE equal to /usr/local/
[10:06] <linner> thoreauputic:  it says it can't display location
[10:06] <Snoblower> i have absolutely no idea what i'm doing, can someone give me a walk-through on how to setup partitions so that i don't have to install windows xp over ubuntu? PM me if you don't mind. thanks.
[10:06] <thoreauputic> linner: umm....
[10:06] <hd420> prolific_: man 3 setenv
[10:06] <CaptainMorgan> sup peeps
[10:06] <CaptainMorgan> ?
[10:07] <linner> thoreauputic:  what is nautilus?
[10:07] <thoreauputic> linner: in the file manager, select "file system" and navigate to /usr/share/sounds
[10:07] <thoreauputic> linner: nautilus is the name of the file manager
[10:07] <linner> oh okay
[10:07] <linner> let me try
[10:08] <linner> thoreauputic:  ok... there it is
[10:08] <linner> weird
[10:08] <thoreauputic> linner: it never went away :D
[10:09] <ksmurf> anyone have an idea why my wifi card would be seen with lspci but not loaded?
[10:09] <thoreauputic> linner: *grin*
[10:09] <Harvey> why would gnome sounds be messing up alsa so that it doesnt work?
[10:09] <ksmurf> Ut seems to be Athros based
[10:09] <Harvey> it says that my card is busy
[10:09] <Harvey> is there a way to fix that?
[10:10] <linner> thoreauputic:  so let me understand this... I can't copy and paste sounds???
[10:10] <seatouch> hey guys
[10:10] <seatouch> i got a problem with ubuntu-base
[10:10] <seatouch> its broken
[10:10] <funky__> hi people
[10:10] <seatouch> and i cant reinstall/fix it
[10:10] <seatouch> root@leet:/home/seatouch # aptitude install ubuntu-base
[10:10] <seatouch> Reading package lists... Done
[10:10] <seatouch> Building dependency tree
[10:10] <seatouch> Reading extended state information
[10:10] <seatouch> Initializing package states... Done
[10:10] <seatouch> Segmentation fault
[10:10] <thoreauputic> linner: not in that directory, without sudo, no
[10:10] <seatouch> can anyone help me ?
[10:10] <linner> thoreauputic:  so how do i do that?
[10:10] <funky__> I got a lot of seg faults when I try to purge some config files
[10:11] <thoreauputic> linner: anything you write outside your home dir and /tmp needs sudo
[10:11] <linner> how do i log in as sudo?
[10:11] <deFrysk> !tell linner about sudo
[10:11] <Chii_Chan> type sudo and the command
[10:11] <thoreauputic> linner: run  gksudo nautilus to have sudo access - but be very careful :)
[10:11] <Chii_Chan> then put in your admin pw
[10:11] <seatouch> hello
[10:11] <othernoob> cdrecord recognizes my dvdrw only as 4x although it's 8x, any way to fix this?
[10:11] <linner> thoreauputic:  ok... thank you :)
[10:12] <seatouch> Chii_Chan, u know how to fix my problem with ubuntu-base?
[10:12] <Chii_Chan> probably not :/
[10:12] <Chii_Chan> I just installed linux for the first time yesterda
[10:12] <Harvey> can someone link me to the page to get aditional repositories?
[10:12] <seatouch> oh
[10:12] <seatouch> ok
[10:12] <Chii_Chan> Am still stuck trying to figure out ndiswrapper
[10:12] <thoreauputic> !tell Harvey about repos
[10:13] <haasteem> hi, i just installed a new dvd-rom drive instead of a cd-rom drive... how do i mount it?
[10:13] <linner> thoreauputic:  that worked perfectly ... thank yoU!
[10:13] <seatouch> thoreauputic, hey
[10:13] <linner> :)
[10:13] <thoreauputic> seatouch: ?
[10:13] <seatouch> thoreauputic, my ubuntu-base is broken
[10:13] <seatouch> thoreauputic, and i cant fix it using aptituder
[10:13] <seatouch> thoreauputic, and i cant fix it using aptitude
[10:14] <seatouch> any other way to fix it?
[10:14] <thoreauputic> seatouch:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure ubuntu-base  ?
[10:14] <dkm> haasteem, AFAIK it should mount automatically, have you tried inserting a disc?
[10:14] <seatouch> thoreauputic, ill try thta
[10:14] <linlin> is it possible to install ubuntu hoary and osx on an imac and dual boot like windows
[10:14] <agl> hi I need help, my firefox died - i tried to upgrade it through synaptic. A package became broken, perhaps it was because I used the backports. I tried removing it and reinstalling - with no result. I still cant open firefox. Please help.
[10:15] <thoreauputic> linner: I *thought* that was a rather sudden departure ;)
[10:15] <zxsykco> Harvey: sudio nano /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the corresponding lines.
[10:15] <seatouch> thoreauputic, its still broken
[10:15] <Belutz> agl: see topic
[10:15] <zxsykco> Or packages.ubuntu.com
[10:15] <thoreauputic> seatouch: I think you need to be more specific
[10:15] <Belutz> agl: or try killall firefox-bin and re-run firefox
[10:15] <j0nas`> sudo apt-get remove firefox && sudo apt-get remove mozilla firefox && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[10:15] <seatouch> thoreauputic, when i try to fix using aptituder it says segmental fault
[10:15] <haasteem> dkm: no, i haven't and i can't open it in ubuntu right now since i don't have control, right?
[10:15] <BaconTastesGood> I'mm running 5.1a and Network Properties doesn't show up.  I click System | Adminisrtation | Network, it idles for a bit...then nothing happens.  No dialog or anything.
[10:15] <j0nas`> sudo apt-get remove firefox && sudo apt-get remove mozilla-firefox && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[10:15] <thoreauputic> agl: see /topic
[10:16] <j0nas`> rather
[10:16] <BaconTastesGood> Any idea what might be causing that?
[10:16] <seatouch> thoreauputic, so anyway to fix the broken package (ubuntu-base)
[10:16] <BaconTastesGood> also, I don't recall setting up a root user...is that an Ubuntu thing?
[10:16] <P229> BaconTastesGood: yep
[10:16] <Nabil> Hello!
[10:16] <dkm> haasteem, im not sure i understand. cant u open it manually (like, pressing a button on the front of it :D)
[10:16] <thoreauputic> seatouch: you need to tell us in what way it is broken
[10:16] <j0nas`> BaconTastesGood: sudo passwd root
[10:17] <seatouch> it broken thats all i know
[10:17] <j0nas`> to change root pwd
[10:17] <BaconTastesGood> ah
[10:17] <jrattner1> When I boot ubuntu, I'm greated with a choice to boot either ubuntu or windows, is there any way that I could change the bootloader to something a little more aestetically pleasing, like with graphics?
[10:17] <seatouch> when i try to use synaptic it says so
[10:17] <BaconTastesGood> okay, so about that Network thing
[10:17] <seatouch> thoreauputic, any way to see how its broken?
[10:17] <P229> BaconTastesGood: you can force a normal root user by sudo su - and setting the password, I think
[10:17] <BaconTastesGood> any idea what I can check to see why it's not giving me any network properties
[10:17] <thoreauputic> seatouch: paste the full error on the pastebin
[10:17] <haasteem> dkm: or what should i adjust in my fstab?
[10:17] <ksmurf> anyone have an idea why my wifi card would be seen with lspci but not loaded? It seems to be athreos based but is unknown I had it working in 2.6.12-8 and 2.6.12-9-686.  I known my madwifi is working because my dlinkg650 is going.  Any ideas?
[10:17] <Nabil> I have encountered a strange phenomenon in which GRUB gets stuck at the loading screen, "GRUB Loading, please wait", and does not move. What might this be caused by? Any insight?
[10:17] <P229> BaconTastesGood: ifconfig
[10:18] <zxsykco> Base iinstall for ubuntu=root passwd set to * so no log in as root. Expert install=root passwd during install ..
[10:18] <ksmurf> nabil.... try addinf vga=ask
[10:18] <ksmurf> try adding...
[10:18] <Nabil> ksmurf, where am I to add this? to grub.conf?
[10:18] <seatouch> thoreauputic, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d2495
[10:19] <linlin> is there any partition tools for linux that will let me to resize?
[10:19] <linlin> preferbly with a gui
[10:19] <ksmurf> nabil /boot/grub/menu.lst or edit at boot time
[10:19] <JetlagJen> Does anyone have any suggestions how I can get nvidia-glx to work? I followed the "binary driver how to" on the wiki, but it won't work.
[10:19] <zxsykco> To make a passwd for root type sudo passwd and supply root passwd that you wish to use.
[10:19] <seatouch> well thoreauputic ?
[10:20] <Davey> which package should I install for firefox? mozilla-firefox* or firefox* ?
[10:20] <ksmurf> linlin.... get a live cd and do it from that but only if you backup your important first
[10:20] <dkm> haasteem, you should add something like "/dev/hdb(or where ever ur device is located) /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user, noauto 0 0" but its supposed to be handled automatically
[10:20] <ksmurf> jetlag Breezy?
[10:20] <shekhar> can someone guide me towards making skype work?
[10:20] <dkm> haasteem, should == could
[10:20] <JetlagJen> ksmurf: no, Hoary
[10:21] <thoreauputic> seatouch: why are you installing ubuntu-base ? it should be installed already
[10:21] <seatouch> its broken
[10:21] <seatouch> not sure why
[10:21] <seatouch> thoreauputic, well i didnt update when i installed
[10:21] <dkm> haasteem, what happens if you insert a cd/dvd. doesn't it get mounted automatically?
[10:21] <seatouch> maybe thats why eh
[10:21] <haasteem> dkm: hmmm... i do have that...
[10:21] <ksmurf> what does it die on?
[10:21] <dkm> haasteem, i dont get your problem :D
[10:21] <ksmurf> anyone have an idea why my wifi card would be seen with lspci but not loaded? It seems to be athreos based but is unknown I had it working in 2.6.12-8 and 2.6.12-9-686.  I known my madwifi is working because my dlinkg650 is going.  Anyone?
[10:21] <seatouch> thoreauputic, tell me one way that i dont have to update the openoffice stuff when i install ubuntu
[10:21] <thoreauputic> seatouch: umm - could you possibly be any more vague about your problem
[10:21] <dkm> haasteem, what happens if u insert a cd/dvd?
[10:22] <haasteem> dkm: how do i open the dvd if it not mounted?
[10:22] <jrattner1> Where in the rc.d file is the clock set to an internet site?
[10:22] <ksmurf> haasteem open?
[10:22] <dkm> haasteem, aren't there a button?
[10:22] <seatouch> well tell me how to cancel the openoffice and other unessential updates pls thoreauputic
[10:22] <dkm> haasteem, else, use eject
[10:22] <dkm> haasteem, "eject cdrom"
[10:22] <haasteem> dkm: yes, but that doesn't work
[10:22] <ksmurf> if it's a laptop use fn f1
[10:22] <haasteem> not even with my cd-burner that does show up
[10:23] <thoreauputic> seatouch: erm - sudo aptitude hold openoffice.org ?
[10:23] <jrattner1> Where can i disable SMTP from booting at startup?
[10:23] <seatouch> thoreauputic, i mean after format
[10:23] <seatouch> before using root terminal
[10:23] <seatouch> when installing and unpacking packages
[10:23] <ksmurf> jetlag how did you install... what errors did you have.  use pastebin if you want to paste anythinh
[10:24] <dkm> haasteem, what doens't work, eject or the button on the dvd drive?
[10:24] <thoreauputic> seatouch: i haven't the faintest idea what you mean - you need to make it clear what the heck you are doing
[10:24] <haasteem> both
[10:24] <linlin> ksmurf what utility on the livecd
[10:24] <ksmurf> umount -f /dev/hdc
[10:24] <seatouch> thoreauputic, the thing is i dont want to download the openoffice things when i install
[10:25] <seatouch> so i didnt plug in my connection wire and installed
[10:25] <seatouch> so i got this problem of the ubuntu-base
[10:25] <ksmurf> on mepis it's qparted or gparted
[10:25] <dkm> haasteem, if no disc is inserted/mounted, i think it sounds kinda "iffy" that you cant eject with the button
[10:25] <CaptainMorgan> Im connected to a server using ssh and Im getting the GUI but I want the terminal for that particular server... any suggestions?
[10:25] <ksmurf> I think
[10:25] <thoreauputic> seatouch: then do a server install and add evrything yourself
[10:25] <seatouch> thoreauputic,  thanks :)
[10:25] <haasteem> dkm: it's been like that ever since i started running ubuntu
[10:25] <thoreauputic> seatouch: you need to know how to of course...
[10:25] <haasteem> i ca'nt use the buttons on the drives
[10:26] <Davey> ok, so Firefox is broken :/
[10:26] <Hfuy> Evening all.
[10:26] <JetlagJen> ksmurf: I followed the "howto" to install the driver via synaptic. I didn't get any errors at that point. I tried to run a game (Enemy Territory) and it crashed straight away. /var/log/Xorg.0.log has the line "Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X driver not found)"
[10:26] <Belutz> Davey: see /topic ?
[10:26] <ksmurf> firfox is not broken unless you use backports
[10:26] <Belutz> !ops
[10:26] <ubotu> [ops]  Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth
[10:26] <dkm> haasteem, if you reboot the computer. does the drivebay open before ubuntu starts up?
[10:27] <Hfuy> What's Ubuntu like on laptops, particularly regarding widescreen displays and suspend to RAM/disk support?
[10:27] <Davey> Belutz, an url doesn't help without a browser ;)
[10:27] <Belutz> spambots
[10:27] <haasteem> drivebay?
[10:27] <CaptainMorgan> Im connected to a server using ssh and Im getting the GUI but I want the terminal for that particular server... any suggestions?
[10:27] <Seveas> sorry for the delay
[10:27] <haasteem> dkm: drivebay?
[10:27] <ksmurf> anyone have an idea why my wifi card would be seen with lspci but not loaded? It seems to be athreos based but is unknown I had it working in 2.6.12-8 and 2.6.12-9-686.  I known my madwifi is working because my dlinkg650 is going. the laptop is an acer travelmate 2310
[10:27] <Belutz> Davey: sudo apt-get remove firefox, sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox mozilla-firefox-gnome-support
[10:28] <ksmurf> 2312
[10:28] <nybble> hey everybody,
[10:28] <Belutz> Seveas: it's ok, everyone is busy :)
[10:28] <Davey> Belutz, I did that
[10:28] <Belutz> hey nybble
[10:28] <Kowalski> I have tried to install Kubuntu on my 15" powerbook under Virtual PC 7 with dismal results... Screen problems... can hardly read the display
[10:28] <dkm> haasteem, what i mean is, does the drive open then. If you press the button on the front before ubuntu starts (during boot, like at the bios screen or something like that)
[10:28] <nybble> has anyone installed the most recent breezy kernel updates?
[10:28] <Belutz> Davey: try killall firefox-bin and re-run firefox
[10:28] <ksmurf> I have
[10:28] <emile> dkm: it would open before it's mounted
[10:28] <ksmurf> nybble.
[10:28] <nybble> ksmurf: any issues?
[10:28] <Davey> thank you Belutz :D
[10:29] <Belutz> Davey: you're welcome
[10:29] <emile> dkm: you can offcourse eject
[10:29] <haasteem> dkm: didn't try that yet
[10:29] <dkm> emile, he says its not mouted and that eject doesnt work
[10:29] <squirrelpimp> Hi:-)
[10:29] <ksmurf> No not much except after fonts. but I uninstalled existing packs and reinstall after updates were done
[10:29] <squirrelpimp> I have a bit off-topic question:-)
[10:29] <haasteem> emile: that's the problem... it doesn't...
[10:30] <dkm> haasteem, the only reason im asking is because i think it sounds wierd that its not mounted, and still doesnt want to eject
[10:30] <haasteem> i tried mounting with mount /media/cdrom0
[10:30] <nybble> hmmm, alright... every time i update to the recent kernel i cant start X at all, so i'm skeptical
[10:30] <nybble> and its usually because of my touchpad
[10:30] <haasteem> it says that /dev/hdd doesn't exit
[10:30] <Kowalski> Has anyone here installed Kubuntu under Virtual PC 7.x running on a Powerbook with Tiger?
[10:30] <ksmurf> well back up xorg.cong
[10:30] <nybble> ksmurf, i do
[10:30] <haasteem> dkm: right
[10:30] <ksmurf> then if there is an issue you can revert....
[10:30] <dkm> haasteem, u changed drives right?
[10:30] <haasteem> yes
[10:31] <ksmurf> I get that on my other box
[10:31] <dkm> haasteem, sure the new one is on /dev/hdd?
[10:31] <haasteem> dkm: my cdrom drive broke and i replaced it with a dvdrom
[10:31] <nybble> ksmurf: yea...
[10:31] <haasteem> yes it is
[10:31] <haasteem> dkm: my cd burner is hdc
[10:31] <dkm> haasteem, okay. just checking :)
[10:31] <haasteem> hehe
[10:31] <ksmurf> I have an internal card that won't work right now..... It only shows up when it's hungry
[10:32] <bina> lo, is there a problem with the new Firefox packages or is it just me.  dpkg reports a load of errors and exits with a status of 1 when i do sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:32] <nybble> LOL ksmurf
[10:32] <nybble> "when its hungry"
[10:32] <dkm> haasteem, if u do a 'dmesg | grep DVD' does everything look well?
[10:32] <emile> won't eject with 'eject' command either?
[10:32] <ksmurf> ya.... wants a byte...
[10:32] <dkm> emile, nope. its acting pretty wierd :p
[10:33] <JetlagJen> Someone on another channel has suggested a change to /etc/X11/xorg.conf so I'm going to go try that. Cheers, guys.
[10:33] <dkm> emile, which was why i asked if whe had checked if the drive could eject during boot (maybe its b0rked)
[10:33] <emile> dkm, does verbose ejecting give any more info?
[10:33] <nybble> lol
[10:33] <ksmurf> seeya jet
[10:33] <dkm> emile, dunno
[10:33] <emile> dkm, eject -v
[10:33] <dkm> emile, thell haasteem :-P
[10:34] <haasteem> dkm, emile: $ eject cdrom0 --> eject: unable to open `/dev/hdd'
[10:34] <ksmurf> I have an internal card that won't work right now..... It only shows up when it's hungry.  It is seen with lspci but never loaded.  Athreos based .  I know athreos works because the othe wifi card is a g650 and it works great
[10:34] <haasteem> it seems that it doesn't see the thing altogether
[10:34] <ksmurf> any idea?
[10:35] <dkm> haasteem, have u tried looking at the dmesg output? does it detect it?
[10:35] <haasteem> dkm: this is what it says: hdc: LG CD-RW CED-8080B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
[10:36] <haasteem> hdc is the cd burner
[10:36] <haasteem> dkm: so i guess the second device is the dvdrom
[10:37] <Hikaru79> is the flash plugin for opera available in the ubuntu repos? Or should I install it manually?
[10:37] <dkm> haasteem, there should be a line like that decting a second drive, like "hdd: YOUR_DVD_DRIVE"
[10:37] <BaconTastesGood> gah, this sucks
[10:37] <jrattner1> How do I stop sendmail from starting at boot time
[10:37] <dkm> haasteem, the line u posted only listed one device
[10:37] <BaconTastesGood> I try to do sudo and I get "Could not lookup ubuntu by gethostbyname()"
[10:37] <BaconTastesGood> wtf?
[10:37] <haasteem> dkm: no, it doesn't give that
[10:37] <BaconTastesGood> so I can't sudo at all right now
[10:37] <BaconTastesGood> which means I can't alter my net settings
[10:38] <dkm> haasteem, okay, then its not detected, which means its 100% not mounted. so, its not good news that it wont open when u press the open button on it
[10:38] <Nabil> ksmurf, I implemented your suggestion, no change. Any further suggestions?
[10:38] <haasteem> shit
[10:38] <dkm> haasteem, sure its corrected probertly? it got power and everything?
[10:39] <ksmurf> hmmm..... try nocpi
[10:39] <nybble> BaconTastesGood: try rebooting in "recovery Mode"
[10:39] <ksmurf> hmmm..... try noacpi
[10:39] <haasteem> what could be wrong?
[10:39] <ksmurf> or disable frambuffer
[10:39] <haasteem> lemme check
[10:39] <ksmurf> or try to reboot to another kernal
[10:39] <JaZyLNX> can anyone help me out with a soudn issue, i have an audigy 1
[10:40] <haasteem> dkm: hmmm...
[10:40] <JaZyLNX> and it looks to be that the machine can see the card, but i can't hear anything when i test with mp3
[10:40] <Nabil> ksmurf, maybe you aren't understanding... grub does not load.
[10:40] <dkm> haasteem, try rebooting and see if you can open it at the bios screen, and look at the bios output to see if it detects it
[10:40] <haasteem> dkm: or you plug it
[10:40] <BaconTastesGood> but why do I get that sudo error?
[10:40] <BaconTastesGood> this is a completely fresh install
[10:40] <haasteem> crap
[10:40] <JaZyLNX> fresh install*
[10:40] <nybble> it cant find itself
[10:40] <Nabil> ksmurf the MBR-level loading stage is where it locks up...
[10:40] <nybble> for some reason
[10:40] <dkm> haasteem, what? :D
[10:40] <haasteem> dkm: been drinking last night....
[10:40] <BaconTastesGood> well, that doesn't sound good =)
[10:40] <ksmurf> Nabil.... OH.  Sorry.... on a dual boot setup?
[10:40] <Nabil> ksmurf, no
[10:40] <dkm> haasteem, wasn't plugged in? :-P
[10:40] <emile> hehe
[10:41] <haasteem> dkm: it's hard to admit
[10:41] <ksmurf> ouch....
[10:41] <haasteem> but it seems i forgot something
[10:41] <ksmurf> on the primary disk?
[10:41] <haasteem> can you  believe it?
[10:41] <dkm> haasteem, okay, then its easily fixed :D
[10:41] <haasteem> indeed
[10:42] <haasteem> dkm: this is really embarassing
[10:42] <emile> haastem: but does it eject now?
[10:42] <haasteem> crap
[10:42] <haasteem> emile: gotta plug still
[10:42] <haasteem> gonna do that after turining off the pc
[10:42] <emile> haastem: hurry, you can put your next beer on the tray when it's ejected ;-)
[10:42] <dkm> haasteem, naah, dont be embarassed. it happens :D
[10:43] <haasteem> emile: good one :-)
[10:43] <Chii_Chan> This is somewhat frustrating
[10:43] <haasteem> dkm, emile: anyways, thanks guys
[10:43] <dkm> haasteem, np
[10:44] <emile> yw
[10:44] <haasteem> i guess i was doing too much multitasking ;-)
[10:44] <haasteem> cool
[10:44] <haasteem> ok, gonna plug and restart
[10:44] <haasteem> later
[10:44] <Chii_Chan> Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A) :
[10:44] <Chii_Chan>     SET failed on device wlan0 ; Invalid argument.
[10:45] <Chii_Chan> Why would I get this when I try set a pw for ndiswrapper?
[10:46] <thoreauputic> alias
[10:46] <thoreauputic> bah
[10:47] <Chii_Chan> bbl have to print some stuff off which is located on my windows partition >.<
[10:48] <kataklysm> how come on my 386 kernel i can build a module fine and install it into the kernel using modprobe, but when i try to make the module using the 686 kernel i get an error, and when i try to modprobe an existing .ko, i get an error as well, what is up with this?
[10:48] <dkm> anybody here using nfs? it takes like a minute for me to mount a nfs share here, is that normal?
[10:48] <henke> kataklysm, what is this error you are getting?
[10:48] <henke> dkm, do you have portmap running on the client?
[10:49] <othernoob> does anyone here have a dvd burner?
[10:49] <kataklysm> make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-686/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[10:49] <kataklysm> make: *** [default]  Error 2
[10:49] <dkm> henke,afaik :D if rpcinfo -p list it, its running right?
[10:50] <kataklysm> henke: thats the stop error i get when just running make, even after doing a make clean
[10:50] <dkm> henke, checks ps output one sec..
[10:50] <dkm> henke, yes. its running
[10:51] <henke> dkm, it should be :) have you checked your logs to see if any related program is complaining?
[10:51] <dkm> henke, lol wait sorry one second. im being lame, i was using the wrong prompt was on the server :D
[10:53] <dkm> henke, its not running on the client
[10:53] <dkm> henke, portmap
[10:53] <zenwhen> nice
[10:53] <zenwhen> i dont have sound with my audigy in breezy
[10:53] <test34> Is there Quicktime plugin for Firefox available anywhere ?
[10:53] <henke> dkm, install nfs-common on the client.
[10:53] <kataklysm> henke: nevermind, when i upgraded to the 2.6.12-686, it didnt install the linux headers for 686, thats what was wrong, i got it now..
[10:54] <kataklysm> that might ought to be included in the update part
[10:54] <henke> kataklysm, good, you solved it by yourself :)
[10:54] <kataklysm> if u upgrade your kernel and have the headers for the previous kernel installed, then update manager will flag that you need to install the headers for the kernel you are upgrading to
[10:54] <Tachyon> I'm having trouble adding a new printer to my Ubuntu machine.  The printer is a Canon i560 connected to my Windows XP machine.  I've followed the steps to add a Samba printer but it isn't working. :/
[10:55] <difeta> hi all! Whenever I try to start the xserver I get an error saying Skipping "/usr/lib/modules/libfb.a:fbmmx.o": No Symbols found..  The next thing that happens is x Segfaults.
[10:55] <difeta> ANy ideas?
[10:55] <kataklysm> that might save some people some trouble
[10:55] <dkm> henke, thanks alot :D
[10:56] <dennnnn> anyone know what the default root password is? when i was installing ubuntu, it never asked me to put a password
[10:56] <Kyral> !tell dennnnn about sudo
[10:56] <sobersabre> :)
[10:56] <sobersabre> is breezy's repository in sync with colony 5  ?
[10:57] <henke> dkm, working better now?
[10:57] <sobersabre> ( or vice versa ..)
[10:57] <Kyral> sobersabre, Colony 5 was a snapshot of the Breezy Repos at that time
[10:57] <dkm> henke, it mounts like.. BAM.. now :D
[10:57] <Kyral> so they prolly are more updates
[10:58] <thewayofzen> someone had pasted a REPO for the java runtime environments the other day
[10:58] <thewayofzen> anyone remember what it was
[10:58] <dkm> henke, so yes. its working much better, thanks :-D
[10:58] <thoreauputic> !java
[10:58] <ubotu> To install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java or, for Sun's Java, ask me about !sunjava
[10:58] <Kyral> yah, do we have to go to Marillat for Java and w32codecs now?
[10:58] <Kyral> !sunjava
[10:58] <ubotu> For Sun-Java debs add this line to your /etc/apt/sources.list (for hoary) deb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ hoary java  ; or go to seveas.ubuntulinux.nl (for Breezy)
[10:58] <henke> dkm, excellent
[10:59] <sorush20> Hi guys.. I'm using breezy now.. but there are some problem with the computer..
[10:59] <henke> sorush20, explain your problems
[10:59] <sobersabre> henke, don't you read his thoughts ?
[11:00] <zenwhen> anyone running breezy and using an audigy?
[11:00] <henke> sobersabre, only when I feel like it
[11:00] <sobersabre> zenwhen, what's audigy ?
[11:01] <sobersabre> isn't it an audio app that requires jack ?
[11:01] <henke> sobersabre, a sound card
[11:01] <Kyral> Audigy is a brand of Sound card
[11:01] <Brunellus> what is SIOCADDRT and what does it do?
[11:01] <henke> Brunellus, in what context are you getting this?
[11:01] <dkm> zenwhen, I am
[11:01] <sobersabre> ah! it as soundblaster live that can playback in 24 bit, but cannot record in 24 bit!
[11:02] <sobersabre> now i remember :)
[11:02] <zenwhen> dkm, did it just work?
[11:02] <rejden> can anybody answer me few questions about setuping LoCoTeams?
[11:02] <Brunellus> henke:  trying to connect to my LAN via a wireless connection
[11:02] <sobersabre> am i correct ?
[11:02] <zenwhen> because this is the first time I have ever seen my card not instantly work in a distro.
[11:02] <Brunellus> my AP shows an attempt to connect from my computer's wlan adaptor's MAC address
[11:02] <henke> Brunellus, it would be easier if you gave more information. What card, what error you are getting, etcetera
[11:03] <Tachyon> Hmm . . . when I try to add a printer over Samba, it doesn't show up in the Printers view.  No error message, nothing . . . it just doesn't get added.
[11:03] <zenwhen> I have been using hoary forever, used warty before that, slackware before that, and fedora before that, and never had to do anything to get my card working.
[11:03] <Brunellus> henke:  the error is SIOCADDRT: network unreachable
[11:03] <zenwhen> breezy is much less usable at this point in dev than hoary was.
[11:03] <sobersabre> zenwhen, and what is the problem... have you tried alsaconf ?
[11:04] <Brunellus> the card is a Linksys 802.11b PCI adaptor--can't tell you exactly what chipset.  it's using the LSIPNDS via ndiswrapper
[11:04] <zenwhen> the card is configured
[11:04] <zenwhen> i just get no sound
[11:04] <zenwhen> alsamixer shows the card
[11:04] <dkm> zenwhen, i installed it yesterday, and after the install everything (including sound) worked fine, but then there was updates in the update notifyer, it borked up (x-common tried to overwrite some fonts it wasnt allowed to) during installation of these and HAL got messed up after this too
[11:04] <zenwhen> oh
[11:04] <sobersabre> zenwhen, how about playing the faders....
[11:04] <dkm> zenwhen, after a reboot nothing worked, no soundcard no network nothing
[11:04] <zenwhen> i guess i need to go back to hoary and hope to god breezy gets to be useable soon.
[11:05] <Sgt> Omg I made it
[11:05] <Brunellus> henke:  I can see my access point if I run iwlist scan
[11:05] <Sgt> cept this isnt the nickname I chose
[11:05] <zenwhen> i am tired of running hoary, for real.
[11:05] <Sgt> What the hell?
[11:05] <sobersabre> zenwhen, if you load the driver manually it should be ok.
[11:05] <sorush20> Brunellus: are the lights on on the card is it a pci,
[11:05] <Brunellus> yes the lights are on
[11:05] <zenwhen> sobersabre, the dirve ris loaded
[11:05] <Sgt> How do I change my IRC nickname?
[11:05] <jrattner1> Why does my battery die so quickly on my laptop
[11:05] <sobersabre> what about the faders ?
[11:05] <dkm> zenwhen, reinstalling hal and using dpkg to force the x-common package fixed everything
[11:05] <nybble> has anyone compiled kopete 3.5 on ubuntu?
[11:05] <zenwhen> nothing is musted.
[11:06] <thoreauputic> Sgt: /nick newnick
[11:06] <sobersabre> well, follow dkm's advice i guess...
[11:06] <tritium> nybble, kopete is in the repos.  Why would you want to compile it?
[11:06] <sorush20> Brunellus: what was the problem you can't get an AP..
[11:06] <nybble> tritium: kopete 3.5.... with webcam support and all
[11:06] <zenwhen> sobersabre, X works fine at this point for me
[11:06] <zenwhen> hal seems to be too, but it wont let me mount my usb drive
[11:07] <Brunellus> sorush20:  no, the problem is that SIOCADDRT tells me the network is unreachable
[11:07] <sobersabre> it works fine except when it doesn't :)
[11:07] <Brunellus> I can see my AP if I iwlist scan for it
[11:07] <sobersabre> maybe you still want to follow dkm
[11:07] <sobersabre> 's advice ....
[11:07] <Brunellus> I can bring wlan0 up and down from the command line...
[11:07] <zenwhen> I am going back to hoary. Theres nothing new in breezy yet anyway.
[11:07] <tritium> zenwhen, yes there is
[11:08] <othernoob> zenwhen: and why go back then?
[11:08] <sobersabre> :) except several dozens of packages....
[11:08] <tritium> hundreds even
[11:08] <othernoob> sobersabre: which are already outdated ;)
[11:08] <zenwhen> Oh
[11:08] <dkm> pah! millions
[11:08] <zenwhen> Maybe I am not looking hard enough then.
[11:08] <zenwhen> :)
[11:08] <tritium> zenwhen, outdated?  gnome 2.12?  hah
[11:08] <spiral> hmmm, how should I notify a dep problem with the gimp in breezy ?
[11:08] <jrattner1> I'm installing linux on my girlfriends laptop, would you recommend that I install the Breezy Badger or the Hoary
[11:09] <zenwhen> tristanmike, outdated only in number
[11:09] <sobersabre> tritium, hundreds are also several dozens.
[11:09] <D1> hoary
[11:09] <othernoob> tritium: just because gnome isn't outdated doesn't mean the other packages are uptodate as well ;)
[11:09] <jrattner1> D1, hoary you tihnk?
[11:09] <D1> its more stable.
[11:09] <sobersabre> othernoob, 1. when you build a distro, some packages will be outdated.
[11:09] <Brunellus> henk:  any ideas as to what's going on?
[11:09] <D1> breezy is still in development
[11:09] <Sgt> Install Breezy
[11:09] <Sgt> It is great
[11:09] <othernoob> sobersabre: not neccessarily.. ;)
[11:09] <sorush20> sorry can't help you there..
[11:09] <D1> things can still break.
[11:09] <sobersabre> 2. which package is outdated ( except amarok...) ?
[11:10] <zenwhen> maybe if your sound works it is
[11:10] <sorush20> Brunellus: sorry can't help you there.
[11:10] <test34> how can you change the bootup process so it shows exactly what it is doing while it boots ?
[11:10] <tritium> othernoob, not really
[11:10] <othernoob> sobersabre: k3b for example..openoffice certainly, albeit i don't know which OOo comes with breezy
[11:10] <Sgt> How do I change my nickname?
[11:10] <denn_> can someone point me in the rigth direction for accessing shared printers (on windows network)
[11:10] <thoreauputic> Sgt:  /nick newnick
[11:11] <sobersabre> othernoob, you're full of... how is it called.... crap ? shit ?
[11:11] <thoreauputic> hahah
[11:11] <sobersabre> :)
[11:11] <henke> test34, boot without the "quiet" option
[11:11] <othernoob> sobersabre: suure ;)
[11:11] <sobersabre> compare to other distributions already declared.
[11:11] <newnick> uh oh
[11:11] <sobersabre> slack 10.2 ?
[11:11] <thoreauputic> newnick: a bit literal ;)
[11:11] <newnick> ha ha
[11:11] <test34> henke, where do you remove this option ?
[11:11] <newnick> SCrwed it up!
[11:11] <sobersabre> :)
[11:11] <newnick> There
[11:11] <newnick> doh
[11:11] <tritium> othernoob, breezy will have openoffice.org2, or the latest betas if it's not released
[11:11] <dkm> if u want everything prepacked and "just working"^tm, its insane to request the latest and greatest of everything. If u want that, build the shite from sources urself and mess around with all the dependensies and stuff.
[11:12] <henke> test34, you can edit the boot entry in the menu that shows on boot
[11:12] <thoreauputic> newnick: /nick <some lame nick here > ;-)
[11:12] <Khannnn> There we go
[11:12] <Khannnn> ha ha
[11:12] <test34> thanks henke
[11:12] <thoreauputic> !nickometer Khannnn
[11:12] <ubotu> 'Khannnn' is 0% lame, thoreauputic
[11:13] <Khannnn> Nice
[11:13] <thoreauputic> Khannnn: well, ubotu thinks it's cool :)
[11:13] <henke> test34, I believe that you press 'e' on the entry to edit it
[11:13] <Khannnn> I wanted !!! at the end, but it was a no go
[11:13] <ColonelKernel> imitating the yell of capt kirk in st2
[11:13] <Khannnn> Exactly
[11:13] <ColonelKernel> when he got left on the genesis-developed asteroid
[11:14] <Khannnn> Indeed
[11:14] <tritium> I think he extended the "a", and not the "n"
[11:14] <ColonelKernel> which - btw - Im wondering why the borg never seemed to develop
[11:14] <Khannnn> Or, what I yell when the newest Breezy updates bork my laptop
[11:14] <tritium> perhaps Khaaaaan
[11:14] <tritium> ;)
[11:14] <Khaaaaan> How is that?
[11:14] <tritium> mucho mejor
[11:15] <Khaaaaan> How does that one rate on the lamesness meter?
[11:15] <thoreauputic> !nickometer Khaaaaan
[11:15] <ubotu> 'Khaaaaan' is 0% lame, thoreauputic
[11:15] <Khaaaaan> ha ha
[11:15] <Khaaaaan> swwweeet
[11:15] <thoreauputic> Khaaaaan: you're in the clear :)
[11:16] <henke> thoreauputic, somebody need to update the nickometer. Should get score if a letter is repeated more than twice ;)
[11:17] <thoreauputic> henke: talk to cafuego :)
[11:17] <test34> I get 27%
[11:18] <thoreauputic> test34: I'd say numbers, [ ] , | etc rate high
[11:19] <bimberi> ahh
[11:19] <othernoob> meh, 1337 is a Erroneous Nickname.. irc sucks
[11:19] <l337H4xx0r> !nickometer l337H4xx0r
[11:19] <ubotu> 'l337H4xx0r' is 99.9378% lame, l337h4xx0r
[11:19] <othernoob> wannabe^^ :p
[11:19] <l337H4xx0r> there you go :D
[11:19] <henke> now to figure out what gives 100% :)
[11:19] <bimberi> hehe
[11:20] <denn_> how do i install stuff? apt-get?
[11:20] <SupIAmMike> so ubuntu easier than debian?
[11:21] <SupIAmMike> does ubuntu come with a kernel that includes the ipw2200 driver?
[11:21] <othernoob> denn_: apt-get install, dpkg -i, ./configure make make install
[11:21] <tritium> yes, I'm using ipw2200 not, SupIAmMike
[11:21] <tritium> s/not/now
[11:21] <SupIAmMike> tritium - thank god
[11:21] <denn_> othernoob, those are 3 different ways to install, right? not one long way?
[11:21] <tritium> okay, i will, SupIAmMike
[11:21] <SupIAmMike> debian broke when i did their instructions to get ipw2200 to work
[11:22] <bimberi> denn_: yes, or aptitude/synaptic
[11:22] <othernoob> denn_: yes, 3 different ways, first one=repos, 2nd one= a downloaded .deb, 3rd one= compiling
[11:22] <tritium> 3rd one should be a last resort, and should be done in combination with checkinstall
[11:22] <othernoob> denn_: the 3rd one are 3 steps btw..
[11:22] <denn_> ah ok thanks
[11:24] <henke> SupIAmMike, how did it break? I've had it working perfectly
[11:24] <tritium> halftime is over...see you after the game
[11:24] <othernoob> tritium: what game?
[11:24] <tritium> Notre Dame, of course
[11:24] <dem> anyone using mythtv with breezy
[11:24] <sambagirl> i no cannot make breezy do anything
[11:24] <sambagirl> i install but that is it
[11:25] <dem> the plugins seam to be broke, because mythtv is @ ver 0.18, and plugins are at 0.17, and they don't work
[11:25] <othernoob> dem: then either wait, or uninstall and install 0.17
[11:26] <fetman> hello, I need som step-by-step help to install lirc. Anyone willing?
[11:26] <Flying-Penguin> whats with imwheel?
[11:26] <LokeDK> When I try, on Hoary, to upgrade firefox to the latest (1.0.7) it syas
[11:26] <LokeDK> says*
[11:26] <LokeDK> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/var/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions.d/00classic', which is also in package firefox
[11:26] <LokeDK> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox-gnome-support_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/libmozgnome.so', which is also in package firefox-gnome-support
[11:26] <dem> well myth 0.18 is soo much more stable on my box than 0.17
[11:26] <thoreauputic> LokeDK: do NOT paste in here!
[11:27] <othernoob> dem: then it's option 1, wait
[11:27] <thoreauputic> LokeDK: and read the /topic
[11:27] <exarkun> default configuration of xterm in breezy sends \x08 on backspace.  Intentional change?  If so, why?
[11:27] <kataklysm> just update dpkg first.. then update the rest..
[11:27] <LokeDK> First of all, I thought it was okay to paste a few lines?
[11:27] <thoreauputic> fetman: sudo apt-get install lirc  - done
[11:27] <othernoob> thoreauputic: would you happen to have a dvdrw ?
[11:28] <LokeDK> but let me read that link
[11:28] <thoreauputic> othernoob: no sorry
[11:28] <kataklysm> LokeDK,  its fine for most of us to read your pastes, its not any diff than someone typing a few lines, but a few dickheads in here dont like it, so just ignore them...
[11:28] <fetman> thoreauputic: really? I don't have to build modules for the kernel etc?
[11:28] <LokeDK> oh okay
[11:28] <thoreauputic> kataklysm: erm - it's a channel rule
[11:29] <thoreauputic> kataklysm: and please read the Code of Conduct
[11:29] <kataklysm> thoreauputic,  it very well may be, but i think it means more than 3 or 4 lines of paste, not just 2 lil lines....
[11:30] <kataklysm> i could understand if the channel was extremely loaded and busy, but look at it
[11:30] <kataklysm> alright i said the wrong thing....
[11:30] <Flying-Penguin> anyone here use imwheel?
[11:30] <chavo> kataklysm, he's going to give himself a heart attack
[11:30] <chavo> over 2 lines
[11:30] <thoreauputic> kataklysm: no, your point was valid in iteself - but please don't call people "dickheads" :)
[11:31] <othernoob> mmh. then..does anyone here own a dvdrw and could paste the output of sudo cdrecord -prcap dev=/dev/hdX to some pastebin?
[11:31] <kataklysm> thoreauputic: would it be better to describe them as people who like to over exaggerate lil things, and try to take charge of others?
[11:32] <denn_> i just used synaptic to install xmms and pan news reader but the icons never appeared in Applications
[11:32] <denn_> do i have to add them manually/
[11:32] <chavo> kataklysm, it's better described as having a god complex I believe
[11:32] <mloskot> hi all!
[11:32] <thoreauputic> kataklysm: whatever you like to think :) I'm not interested in srguing the point :)
[11:32] <thoreauputic> *arguing
[11:32] <mloskot> Q: is anyone using Creative Notebook Webcam on Ubuntu (Breezy)?
[11:32] <kataklysm> evidently you were
[11:33] <bimberi> denn_: you might, but first try a "killall gnome-panel" in a terminal and see if they turn up after that
[11:33] <kataklysm> mloskot: i bet i have the fix for your webcam
[11:33] <mloskot> katalysm: what fix?
[11:33] <kataklysm> mloskot: id say that the spca50x drivers will work on it
[11:33] <thoreauputic> chavo: right, like I kick people all the time and generally throw my weight around :|
[11:33] <kataklysm> i have breezy and i have a stingray
[11:33] <mloskot> kataklysm: I've found this HOWTO: http://www.macewan.org/2005/08/07/ubuntu-creative-live-webcam/
[11:34] <mloskot> kataklysm: It seems to be spca50x related
[11:34] <chavo> thoreauputic, I'm just messing with ya
[11:34] <kataklysm> mloskot: have u tried to compile and install the spca5xx driver?
[11:34] <chavo> I know you don't do that
[11:34] <god-zero> othernoob: what was the url to pastebin again?
[11:34] <kataklysm> thoreauputic, its no big deal, we all get a little big headed
[11:34] <othernoob> god-zero: pastebin.com ?
[11:34] <sorush20> I'm trying to add farsi support to my computer using this howTO , http://www.farsikde.org/keyboard.php, but at a step in the howTo it is asking me to go to this location /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/rules/ and find a file called. xfree86.list, but I don't have this file the only file that is close to it is xfree86 and its a link to a source here is the screenshot http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2496
[11:34] <mloskot> kataklysm: no yet, im first asking where should I start, so now I know - spca...
[11:34] <ksmurf> I have an internal card that won't work right now..... It only shows up when it's hungry.  It is seen with lspci but never loaded.  Athreos based .  I know athreos works because the othe wifi card is a g650 and it works great
[11:35] <tritium> kataklysm, it is COMPLETELY against the Code of Conduct to call others here the name you called them
[11:35] <kataklysm> thoreauputic,  just lets try to stay reasonable, and remember the good ubuntu community name
[11:35] <ksmurf> anyone know?
[11:35] <kataklysm> tritium,  i didnt direct "dickhead" towards anyone in particular
[11:35] <ksmurf> hey ya trit.... still safe?
[11:36] <god-zero> othernoob: http://pastebin.com/373163
[11:36] <zenlunatic> How do I see my gnome version?
[11:36] <tritium> hi ksmurf.  Yeah, doing fine here, thanks.  You/
[11:36] <tritium> ?
[11:36] <ksmurf> gr8 except my wifi card disappeared again
[11:36] <dkm> zenlunatic, gnome-about
[11:37] <dkm> zenlunatic, from a prompt or from the menu :-p
[11:37] <ksmurf> mama says hello
[11:37] <zenlunatic> my gnome-about says gnome2.10 and i followed wiki directions to upgrade to breezy. why don't i have 2.12?
[11:37] <BaconTastesGood> so I'd argue that not updating /etc/hosts with your hostname automatically is a fairly significant bug =/
[11:37] <zenlunatic> dkm, thanks
[11:37] <tritium> hi to your wife, ksmurf
[11:38] <sorush20> is there a gui virus scanner that scans and removes all the viruses on linux..
[11:38] <zenlunatic> sorush20, there are no viruses for linux
[11:38] <P229> so the "colony 5" for ubuntu 5.10... is this like "release candidate 5?" and if I were to install colony 5, would it be simple to upgrade to the final release of 5.10?
[11:38] <zenlunatic> P229, yes
[11:39] <zenlunatic> P229, so I'm told
[11:39] <ksmurf> there are virus for linux... they just don't do damage....
[11:39] <henke> zenlunatic, that's not entirely true
[11:39] <Cody`> anyone know if I can play divx on ubuntu
[11:39] <amias> has anyone got uk tv data working in mythv on breezy ?
[11:39] <ksmurf> cody yes if need be
[11:39] <P229> henke: could you elaborate?
[11:39] <zenlunatic> okay what are some viruses that have been on security advisories for linux lately?
[11:39] <amias> Cody: totem
[11:39] <dkm> zenlunatic, sco!
[11:40] <ksmurf> Zen .... None latly.  security according to apps and kernel
[11:40] <zenlunatic> P229, i don't think he was referring to my upgrade response
[11:40] <zenlunatic> so what are you talking about ksmurf
[11:40] <P229> zenlunatic: oh
[11:40] <henke> zenlunatic, correct :)
[11:40] <P229> henke: my bad
[11:40] <Cody`> ksmurf: yes, how?
[11:40] <sorush20> zenlunatic: are you sure.. well.. with the word of windows its only best for me to be able to scan my hda1 to remove a win viruses and prevent cross contaminations...
[11:40] <denn_> i'm trying to update to openoffice 1.1.5 from 1.1.3. Should i just download and install it or do I have to uninstall old one first?
[11:41] <henke> denn_, it will replace the old automatically
[11:41] <zenlunatic> sorush20, there are some linux distros made specifically for that purpose. i don't know the name of the tools but there are programs to do what your describing
[11:41] <denn_> ok cool
[11:41] <CaptainMorgan> are those Harvery windows? nnnnniiiicee
[11:41] <zenlunatic> dkm, do you have any idea why i am running 2.10 on breezy?
[11:42] <ksmurf> zen security advisories are put out constantly.  It's just that since linux is a true multiuser system and people don't ( shouldn't) run as root they don't affect anything.  all programs ( or most) have some vunerability
[11:42] <sorush20> zenlunatic: thanks. anyways.. anyone else.. know about this.. ?
[11:42] <zenlunatic> yeah but ksmurf that is not the same thing as a windows virus
[11:43] <zenlunatic> a virus is a file that effects your system negatively
[11:43] <zenlunatic> so a scanner can search and destroy that file(s)
[11:43] <JDahl> sorush20, what do you mean by cross-contaminations? a Windows virus affected Linux? You definetely don't have to worry about that
[11:43] <JDahl> s/affected/affecting
[11:43] <dkm> zenlunatic, fraid not :/ (maybe its a virus? :.D)
[11:43] <zenlunatic> sorush20, what JDahl says is true
[11:43] <zenlunatic> sorush20, cleaning windows from linux is doable though
[11:44] <zenlunatic> has anyone upgraded to breezy and had old apps like gnome2.12?
[11:44] <zenlunatic> i mean 2.10 in breezy
[11:44] <chavo> You only really need a virus scanner if you're running a mail server
[11:44] <chavo> that way you can scan the emails for viruses before sending them on their way
[11:44] <thoreauputic> zenlunatic: youdid a dist-upgrade, right ? Not just upgrade ?
[11:45] <zenlunatic> thoreauputic, no just upgrade
[11:45] <twoSharp> is it possible to check packages in the network real-time in ethereal?
[11:45] <thoreauputic> zenlunatic: you need to dist-upgrade :)
[11:45] <linner|Away> thoreauputic:  this is my 6th install of breezy... i'm having x-server starting issues... talked with Tritium last night who suggested that I try using a Radeon driver since SuSE that I had running fine used it.  I don't know how to change it... can you help me?  Bob2 basically thought it wasn't that issue but couldn't excute what he suggested... he didn't give me specific enough info :(
[11:45] <zenlunatic> thoreauputic, doh!
[11:46] <Cody`> ksmurf: yes, how?
[11:46] <sorush20> JDahl: I have just done a virus scan on my computer its a ubuntu and I have found many win viruses around just sitting there like spores, what if gets transfered to my sisters computer which is a windows that is what I mean by cross contamination.. I don't want linux to act like a vector or a carrier
[11:46] <dkm> zenlunatic, have you checked the versions of the different gnomepackages (for example gnome-about) in synaptic or with apt?
[11:46] <linner> i'm now booted in "safe mode"
[11:46] <zenlunatic> thoreauputic, bah! im just going to do a fresh install of breezy since i already have the iso. it is saying that it will download 300+ meg
[11:46] <thoreauputic> linner: I doubt that I can help - I'm on dialup currently and still running Hoary - maybe someone using Breezy can help you
[11:47] <linner> thoreauputic: ok... sounds good :) thanks anyway
[11:47] <thoreauputic> zenlunatic: that sounds about right
[11:47] <chavo> zenlunatic, you can use the cd to upgrade
[11:48] <zenlunatic> chavo, ah
[11:48] <{CyberFreak}> anyone knows if kde 3.4.2 has port for amd 64 hoary
[11:48] <{CyberFreak}> ?
[11:48] <{CyberFreak}> kubuntu 64 hoary
[11:49] <chavo> zenlunatic, you could probably do it by jusy mounting the iso, but I'm not sure how to add a local directory as a repository
[11:49] <LokeDK> write says write: write: you have write permission turned off. .. I could for not long ago?
[11:49] <ksmurf> I have an internal card that won't work right now..... It only shows up when it's hungry.  It is seen with lspci but never loaded.  Athreos based .  I know athreos works because the othe wifi card is a g650 and it works great
[11:49] <ksmurf> any ideas?
[11:50] <zenlunatic> chavo, ill just burn it
[11:50] <chavo> try mounting the iso at /mnt/cdrom and run apt-cdrom
[11:50] <chavo> sudo mount -o loop /path/to/iso /mnt/cdrom
[11:50] <chavo> sudo apt-cdrom
[11:50] <chavo> that should do it
[11:54] <JaZyLNX> hey guys, my wlan0 wasn't found during inital install, but i got it working meow. and i want it to start up automatically instead of me having to activate it all the time
[11:54] <chavo> zenlunatic, got it do this -> sudo mount -o loop /path/to/breezy.iso /cdrom
[11:54] <chavo> then do this ->sudo apt-cdrom -m add
[11:55] <chavo> that will add the iso image to your sources.list
[11:55] <chavo> then just comment it out when your done
[11:55] <sambagirl> what is different about breezy it tell me it's breezy? should i try to do upgrade again?
[11:55] <Jerich> is there anything I can do, to customize a standard ubuntu install for a low end laptop ?
[11:55] <sambagirl> i notice nothign
[11:55] <sambagirl> nothing different i mean
[11:56] <linner> tritium: hello...
[11:56] <linner> tritium: she's baaa-ack
[11:56] <rdw200169> the kernel would be different
[11:56] <solemnwarning> why does ubuntu prevent scripts from using /bin/sh as a shebang?
[11:57] <chavo> sambagirl, did you get the 3d glassess?
[11:57] <sambagirl> 3 d glasses?
[11:57] <thoreauputic> solemnwarning: it doesn't. AFAIK
[11:57] <sambagirl> i using tifanny glasses
[11:57] <xTina> solemnwarning: it does not
[11:57] <binman180> root@strongbad:/cdrom # ./linux_installer.sh
[11:57] <binman180> bash: ./linux_installer.sh: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied
[11:57] <binman180> oh?
[11:57] <sambagirl> what i needing 3d glasses for/
[11:57] <sambagirl> ?
[11:57] <Khaaaaan> Okay, is Gstreamer supported by Nokia money?
[11:57] <solemnwarning> that script runs fine on my debian box
[11:58] <thoreauputic> solemnwarning: #!/bin/sh should work fine
[11:58] <linner> tritium: may I PM you?
[11:59] <thoreauputic> binman180: possibly running from the CD is the problem there
[11:59] <Khaaaaan> cause it will not play DVDs at all, and one would assume that with Nokia money, they would have got it to work by now :(
[11:59] <binman180> thoreauputic: the cd works fine in solemnwarning's debian box