| JonnyRo | hello | 12:04 |
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| Darth | hi | 12:07 |
| JonnyRo | Darth: hows it going | 12:08 |
| Darth | so far.... so good... | 12:08 |
| JonnyRo | glad to hear people are working on LTSP with ubuntu | 12:08 |
| JonnyRo | i've been wanting to set up thin clients for a while | 12:08 |
| Darth | whats LTSP | 12:08 |
| Darth | sorry, im such a newb | 12:08 |
| JonnyRo | linux terminal server project | 12:08 |
| Darth | nice | 12:08 |
| JonnyRo | edubuntu in general (if i understand correctly) can make use of that tech to let you run thin clients | 12:09 |
| JonnyRo | so you can run small embedded pc's at each students' desktop | 12:09 |
| Darth | hmm interesting | 12:13 |
| Darth | what about in other stuff like in PDA's or cellphones? | 12:13 |
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| JonnyRo | nothing to do with that | 12:14 |
| JonnyRo | well, unless the PDA can run a LTSP client, which is i guess possible with the PocketPC systems | 12:15 |
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| Darth | hmm interesting | 12:16 |
| JonnyRo | Darth: what brings you to #edubuntu? are you an educator? | 12:17 |
| Darth | pretty close | 12:17 |
| Darth | im a college student =) | 12:17 |
| JonnyRo | ah | 12:17 |
| JonnyRo | you've been using Ubuntu on your PC yet? | 12:17 |
| Darth | yeah, im just using the LiveCD though | 12:17 |
| Darth | havent had the time yet to install it | 12:17 |
| Darth | honestly, just lazy | 12:17 |
| JonnyRo | Edubuntu as far as I know is primarily centered around making Ubuntu work in a classroom lab setting | 12:18 |
| JonnyRo | so the teacher can interact with the students | 12:18 |
| JonnyRo | and influence their desktops | 12:18 |
| JonnyRo | Regular ubuntu is probably best for normal workstation use | 12:18 |
| Darth | u mean like take it over? | 12:18 |
| JonnyRo | Darth: I dont know if it supports this yet, but i'd imagine it would be cool for a teacher to be able to show a student how to do something | 12:20 |
| JonnyRo | via thier own pc | 12:20 |
| JonnyRo | from the front of the room | 12:20 |
| Darth | yeah.... that would be a great tool to make... | 12:20 |
| JonnyRo | i know they can push files and stuff around already | 12:20 |
| JonnyRo | not too sure on the other aspect | 12:20 |
| JonnyRo | Where do you go to school? | 12:20 |
| Darth | The City College of NY | 12:20 |
| JonnyRo | cool | 12:23 |
| Darth | so are u involved in edubuntu in anyway JohnnyRo? | 12:24 |
| JonnyRo | nope, but i'm definately interested | 12:24 |
| JonnyRo | I am very excited about using thin client setups | 12:24 |
| JonnyRo | at business locations | 12:24 |
| JonnyRo | I tried using the stuff from K12-LTSP ages ago | 12:24 |
| JonnyRo | but it was somewhat immature | 12:24 |
| JonnyRo | at the time | 12:24 |
| JonnyRo | Ubuntu provides such an awesome user experience that I would love to be able to implement that cheaply. | 12:25 |
| Darth | well Ubuntu is free... i guess that is as cheap as you are gonna get... | 12:25 |
| JonnyRo | free as in dollars, but depending on how easy stuff is to set up, you end up paying in time | 12:26 |
| Darth | ahh tru | 12:26 |
| JonnyRo | Ubuntu is just great for a workstation computer that you do a full install on | 12:26 |
| JonnyRo | that was a huge timesaver | 12:27 |
| Darth | lol | 12:27 |
| JonnyRo | But for thin clients, I will have to experiment first | 12:27 |
| Darth | so what do u do for a living? | 12:27 |
| JonnyRo | IT Manager | 12:28 |
| Darth | where? | 12:29 |
| JonnyRo | Florida | 12:29 |
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| Darth | nice | 12:30 |
| JonnyRo | It's a decent living | 12:30 |
| JonnyRo | lots of research though | 12:30 |
| JonnyRo | constant learning | 12:30 |
| Darth | eh | 12:31 |
| Darth | i hate learning | 12:31 |
| Darth | i like doing | 12:31 |
| Darth | =) | 12:31 |
| JonnyRo | everyone's got their own style | 12:31 |
| Darth | wo a doubt | 12:31 |
| Darth | brb | 12:34 |
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| spacey | JonnyRo, edubuntu makes thin client setup really easy | 12:58 |
| spacey | so its easy in ubuntu itself with the right packages | 12:59 |
| rejden | which packages? | 12:59 |
| spacey | the ltsp packages i guess:) | 01:00 |
| spacey | in breezy | 01:01 |
| rejden | didn't tried thinkclient things yet | 01:02 |
| rejden | it's good? | 01:02 |
| JonnyRo | i definately think it's time to download breezy | 01:02 |
| JonnyRo | and start trying things out | 01:02 |
| rejden | i'm too busy with writing things atm | 01:02 |
| rejden | but i put it in my ToDo things for sure | 01:03 |
| JonnyRo | ubuntulinux.org feels a bit on the slow side | 01:03 |
| JonnyRo | alright folks, have a nice night | 01:06 |
| JonnyRo | cya | 01:06 |
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| spacey | goodnight | 01:07 |
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| spacey | rejden, yes its good, and freenx is cool too | 01:07 |
| rejden | oh, i will prolly have some lame questions while try to test | 01:09 |
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| shaga | good morning all | 01:26 |
| rejden | same to you shaga | 01:55 |
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| Yagisan | G'day ogra | 06:03 |
| Yagisan | Installed the daily cd yesterday in vmware. Still needed to add eth0 to the auto line in interfaces | 06:04 |
| Yagisan | and had to run the ltsp-update-sshkeys | 06:07 |
| Yagisan | hmm- my p2l97 is beeping at me | 06:07 |
| ogra | hmm, works flawless on normal installs, i suspect there is a vmware problem then... | 06:08 |
| ogra | no errors during install and you used the default IP the installer offers ? | 06:09 |
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| Yagisan | no errors at all on install - and I used the defaults | 06:10 |
| Yagisan | :(:'(:( I just plugged a pci video card into the p2l97 and found out what the beeping means - corrupt bios | 06:12 |
| ogra | hmm... | 06:12 |
| Yagisan | is it dependent on the ethernet mac address ? | 06:14 |
| ogra | not at all, no | 06:15 |
| Yagisan | ok. just wondering why it won't bring eth0 up | 06:15 |
| ogra | the problem is that the dhcp.conf isnt autogenerated, if the IP of eth0 doesnt match the range in there it fails to install edubuntu-desktop, so the ltsp-update-sshkeys isnt run | 06:16 |
| ogra | and the tftpserver which gets installed after dhcpd might not be set up corretctly... | 06:16 |
| ogra | in any case it looks like you eth0 isnt even up during install | 06:17 |
| Yagisan | well edubuntu-desktop is installed | 06:17 |
| ogra | err | 06:18 |
| ogra | edubuntu-server | 06:18 |
| Yagisan | edubuntu-server too | 06:18 |
| ogra | sudo apt-get -f install doesn nothing ? | 06:19 |
| ogra | or dpkg --configure -a | 06:20 |
| Yagisan | I just ran "dpkg --configure -a" and didn't get any output | 06:21 |
| Yagisan | the packages are installed according to aptitude | 06:21 |
| ogra | yup looks like | 06:21 |
| ogra | i suspect its some vmware speciality... | 06:22 |
| Yagisan | typical | 06:22 |
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| ogra | anything in bugzilla about eth0 not being configured right ? | 06:22 |
| Yagisan | haven't checked yet | 06:23 |
| Yagisan | I noticed I still can't do lvm over raid in breezy | 06:23 |
| ogra | you can, as long as you use a /boot partition not on LVM | 06:24 |
| ogra | its a known bug | 06:24 |
| ogra | i think its grub who cant handle it right | 06:25 |
| Yagisan | eth0 - not bugs found | 06:25 |
| Yagisan | my /boot is never lvm anyway | 06:25 |
| ogra | hmm, most of these are Kamion questions... you could ask him tomorrow, i'm not this familiar with the installer... | 06:26 |
| Yagisan | I intend to grab some screenshots from my next install for that | 06:27 |
| Yagisan | I reported similar bug with hoary (+ workaround) | 06:27 |
| Yagisan | why was the screensaver changed ? | 06:28 |
| ogra | gnome-screensaver wasnt ready | 06:28 |
| ogra | but mark wanted us to change to it... | 06:29 |
| ogra | now we convinced him to change back, but he requires that the lock window shall look similar | 06:29 |
| ogra | (takes me ages to make that happen) | 06:29 |
| ogra | http://www.grawert.net/xss.html | 06:30 |
| Yagisan | the existing lock screen with the bar that decreases | 06:31 |
| Yagisan | that's xscreensaver isn't it ? | 06:31 |
| Yagisan | (hoary system here) | 06:31 |
| ogra | yup | 06:32 |
| Yagisan | I like that | 06:33 |
| ogra | i dont like the timer for example... | 06:33 |
| Yagisan | you don't ? | 06:33 |
| ogra | the new dialog just extends the time by 3 seconds for every keystroke, so the window wont disappear as long as you type | 06:33 |
| ogra | and it has no scary timer anymore that sets the user under pressue | 06:34 |
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| rejden | i'm curious, how is edubuntu i10n handled? | 07:05 |
| ogra | rejden, through language packs, we inherit the loclization into 90 languages from ubuntu | 07:19 |
| rejden | and what about the nontranslated software? | 07:21 |
| ogra | nearly all in main is translated | 07:22 |
| ogra | if yu mean the universe software, there you can only expect that amount of translation upstream offers, but you can translate every app in ubuntu through rosetta if you like | 07:23 |
| rejden | actually i'm building a team of translators because we want to do some propaganda in school sector | 07:27 |
| rejden | yeah i know about the rosseta, but it takes some time until things settle :) | 07:27 |
| ogra | heh, yes, but its already quite famous | 07:28 |
| rejden | it's not about famous | 07:28 |
| rejden | btw are you familiar with rosetta? | 07:29 |
| ogra | only very rough, i'm not a translator :) | 07:30 |
| ogra | (i tested it and did some translation work with it to try it) | 07:30 |
| rejden | so i try to ask ;) here is done translation https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/breezy/+lang/ and if you enter any language you see all the translated documents and who translated them, but the person who did it isn't listable (like his email adress and such) i was wandering if there is any list of "clickable" people for current language | 07:31 |
| ogra | hmm, thats rather a question for #launchpad then, i'm not too much in the details of rosetta | 07:33 |
| rejden | i'll try | 07:34 |
| ogra | :) | 07:35 |
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