[12:04] hello === Darth [n=tkcheriy@pool-141-149-58-190.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu [12:07] hi [12:08] Darth: hows it going [12:08] so far.... so good... [12:08] glad to hear people are working on LTSP with ubuntu [12:08] i've been wanting to set up thin clients for a while [12:08] whats LTSP [12:08] sorry, im such a newb [12:08] linux terminal server project [12:08] nice [12:09] edubuntu in general (if i understand correctly) can make use of that tech to let you run thin clients [12:09] so you can run small embedded pc's at each students' desktop [12:13] hmm interesting [12:13] what about in other stuff like in PDA's or cellphones? === nybble [n=nybble@d36-24-214.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #edubuntu [12:14] nothing to do with that [12:15] well, unless the PDA can run a LTSP client, which is i guess possible with the PocketPC systems === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-13-72.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #edubuntu [12:16] hmm interesting [12:17] Darth: what brings you to #edubuntu? are you an educator? [12:17] pretty close [12:17] im a college student =) [12:17] ah [12:17] you've been using Ubuntu on your PC yet? [12:17] yeah, im just using the LiveCD though [12:17] havent had the time yet to install it [12:17] honestly, just lazy [12:18] Edubuntu as far as I know is primarily centered around making Ubuntu work in a classroom lab setting [12:18] so the teacher can interact with the students [12:18] and influence their desktops [12:18] Regular ubuntu is probably best for normal workstation use [12:18] u mean like take it over? [12:20] Darth: I dont know if it supports this yet, but i'd imagine it would be cool for a teacher to be able to show a student how to do something [12:20] via thier own pc [12:20] from the front of the room [12:20] yeah.... that would be a great tool to make... [12:20] i know they can push files and stuff around already [12:20] not too sure on the other aspect [12:20] Where do you go to school? [12:20] The City College of NY [12:23] cool [12:24] so are u involved in edubuntu in anyway JohnnyRo? [12:24] nope, but i'm definately interested [12:24] I am very excited about using thin client setups [12:24] at business locations [12:24] I tried using the stuff from K12-LTSP ages ago [12:24] but it was somewhat immature [12:24] at the time [12:25] Ubuntu provides such an awesome user experience that I would love to be able to implement that cheaply. [12:25] well Ubuntu is free... i guess that is as cheap as you are gonna get... [12:26] free as in dollars, but depending on how easy stuff is to set up, you end up paying in time [12:26] ahh tru [12:26] Ubuntu is just great for a workstation computer that you do a full install on [12:27] that was a huge timesaver [12:27] lol [12:27] But for thin clients, I will have to experiment first [12:27] so what do u do for a living? [12:28] IT Manager [12:29] where? [12:29] Florida === nybble [n=nybble@d36-24-214.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #edubuntu [12:30] nice [12:30] It's a decent living [12:30] lots of research though [12:30] constant learning [12:31] eh [12:31] i hate learning [12:31] i like doing [12:31] =) [12:31] everyone's got their own style [12:31] wo a doubt [12:34] brb === Darth [n=tkcheriy@pool-141-149-58-190.ny325.east.verizon.net] has left #edubuntu [] === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-13-72.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #edubuntu [12:58] JonnyRo, edubuntu makes thin client setup really easy [12:59] so its easy in ubuntu itself with the right packages [12:59] which packages? [01:00] the ltsp packages i guess:) [01:01] in breezy [01:02] didn't tried thinkclient things yet [01:02] it's good? [01:02] i definately think it's time to download breezy [01:02] and start trying things out [01:02] i'm too busy with writing things atm [01:03] but i put it in my ToDo things for sure [01:03] ubuntulinux.org feels a bit on the slow side [01:06] alright folks, have a nice night [01:06] cya === JonnyRo [n=jonnyro@monorad.raydiance-inc.com] has left #edubuntu [] [01:07] goodnight === spacey zz [01:07] rejden, yes its good, and freenx is cool too [01:09] oh, i will prolly have some lame questions while try to test === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-13-72.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #edubuntu === nybble [n=nybble@d36-24-214.home1.cgocable.net] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === pitux [n=pitux@203-209-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === pitux [n=pitux@169-212-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-13-72.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #edubuntu === john_b [n=john@38.235.118.70.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu === pitux [n=pitux@169-212-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === yvesC [n=yves@81.56.207.189] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@203.172.2.18] has joined #edubuntu === nybble [n=nybble@d36-24-214.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #edubuntu === nybbled [n=nybble@d36-24-214.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #edubuntu === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-38-8.tpgi.com.au] has joined #edubuntu === JaneW [n=JaneW@wbs-146-189-29.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === Rondom [n=andreas@A493f.a.pppool.de] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@205.134.224.215] has joined #edubuntu === nybble [n=nybble@d36-24-214.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #edubuntu === ^AnK^ [n=ank@202.152.170.254] has joined #edubuntu === ^AnK^ [n=ank@202.152.170.254] has left #edubuntu [] === nybble [n=nybble@d36-24-214.home1.cgocable.net] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === apokryphos [n=apokryph@host-87-74-34-76.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #edubuntu === yvesC [n=yves@81.56.207.189] has joined #edubuntu [01:26] good morning all [01:55] same to you shaga === fersfeir [n=fernando@201.250.13.235] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@p5089FCEC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === pitux [n=pitux@158-200-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === ce33na [i=kf4ebp@kf4ebp.americainter.net] has joined #edubuntu === ce33na [i=kf4ebp@kf4ebp.americainter.net] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === pitux [n=pitux@158-200-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === Seveas [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #edubuntu === Yagisan [n=jamie@220-245-72-55-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #edubuntu [06:03] G'day ogra [06:04] Installed the daily cd yesterday in vmware. Still needed to add eth0 to the auto line in interfaces [06:07] and had to run the ltsp-update-sshkeys [06:07] hmm- my p2l97 is beeping at me [06:08] hmm, works flawless on normal installs, i suspect there is a vmware problem then... [06:09] no errors during install and you used the default IP the installer offers ? === ogra will have a party once he doesnt need to ask this IP question anymore [06:10] no errors at all on install - and I used the defaults [06:12] :(:'(:( I just plugged a pci video card into the p2l97 and found out what the beeping means - corrupt bios [06:12] hmm... [06:14] is it dependent on the ethernet mac address ? [06:15] not at all, no [06:15] ok. just wondering why it won't bring eth0 up [06:16] the problem is that the dhcp.conf isnt autogenerated, if the IP of eth0 doesnt match the range in there it fails to install edubuntu-desktop, so the ltsp-update-sshkeys isnt run [06:16] and the tftpserver which gets installed after dhcpd might not be set up corretctly... [06:17] in any case it looks like you eth0 isnt even up during install [06:17] well edubuntu-desktop is installed [06:18] err [06:18] edubuntu-server [06:18] edubuntu-server too [06:19] sudo apt-get -f install doesn nothing ? [06:20] or dpkg --configure -a [06:21] I just ran "dpkg --configure -a" and didn't get any output [06:21] the packages are installed according to aptitude [06:21] yup looks like [06:22] i suspect its some vmware speciality... [06:22] typical === Yagisan needs to find a floppy disk [06:22] anything in bugzilla about eth0 not being configured right ? [06:23] haven't checked yet [06:23] I noticed I still can't do lvm over raid in breezy [06:24] you can, as long as you use a /boot partition not on LVM [06:24] its a known bug [06:25] i think its grub who cant handle it right [06:25] eth0 - not bugs found [06:25] my /boot is never lvm anyway [06:26] hmm, most of these are Kamion questions... you could ask him tomorrow, i'm not this familiar with the installer... [06:27] I intend to grab some screenshots from my next install for that [06:27] I reported similar bug with hoary (+ workaround) [06:28] why was the screensaver changed ? [06:28] gnome-screensaver wasnt ready [06:29] but mark wanted us to change to it... [06:29] now we convinced him to change back, but he requires that the lock window shall look similar [06:29] (takes me ages to make that happen) [06:30] http://www.grawert.net/xss.html [06:31] the existing lock screen with the bar that decreases [06:31] that's xscreensaver isn't it ? [06:31] (hoary system here) [06:32] yup [06:33] I like that [06:33] i dont like the timer for example... [06:33] you don't ? [06:33] the new dialog just extends the time by 3 seconds for every keystroke, so the window wont disappear as long as you type [06:34] and it has no scary timer anymore that sets the user under pressue === Yagisan finally fond a floopy disk - hopes it has no bad sectors === Yagisan leaves to try and repair corrupt bios [07:05] i'm curious, how is edubuntu i10n handled? [07:19] rejden, through language packs, we inherit the loclization into 90 languages from ubuntu [07:21] and what about the nontranslated software? [07:22] nearly all in main is translated [07:23] if yu mean the universe software, there you can only expect that amount of translation upstream offers, but you can translate every app in ubuntu through rosetta if you like [07:27] actually i'm building a team of translators because we want to do some propaganda in school sector [07:27] yeah i know about the rosseta, but it takes some time until things settle :) [07:28] heh, yes, but its already quite famous [07:28] it's not about famous [07:29] btw are you familiar with rosetta? [07:30] only very rough, i'm not a translator :) [07:30] (i tested it and did some translation work with it to try it) [07:31] so i try to ask ;) here is done translation https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/breezy/+lang/ and if you enter any language you see all the translated documents and who translated them, but the person who did it isn't listable (like his email adress and such) i was wandering if there is any list of "clickable" people for current language [07:33] hmm, thats rather a question for #launchpad then, i'm not too much in the details of rosetta [07:34] i'll try [07:35] :) === pitux [n=pitux@158-200-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === macgyver2 [n=eric@unaffiliated/macgyver2] has joined #edubuntu === nybbled [n=nybble@d150-112-31.home.cgocable.net] has joined #edubuntu === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-13-72.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #edubuntu === magnon [n=magnon@photogeeks/magnon] has joined #edubuntu === spacey [n=spacey@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #edubuntu === Orbman [n=orbman@85-210-144-85.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #edubuntu === pere_gone [i=foobar@diskless.uio.no] has joined #edubuntu === danjules [n=dan@24.215.14.137] has joined #edubuntu === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-13-72.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #edubuntu === magnon [n=magnon@photogeeks/magnon] has joined #edubuntu === spacey [n=spacey@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #edubuntu === Orbman [n=orbman@85-210-144-85.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #edubuntu === pere_gone [i=foobar@diskless.uio.no] has joined #edubuntu === danjules [n=dan@24.215.14.137] has joined #edubuntu === nybble [n=nybble@d150-112-31.home.cgocable.net] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === yvesC [n=yves@81.56.207.189] has joined #edubuntu === bdoin [n=coudoin@bla31-1-82-228-70-121.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === Seveas [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #edubuntu === pitux [n=pitux@158-200-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === macgyver2 [n=eric@tor/session/x-8ba3eea724f04404] has joined #edubuntu === fersfeir [n=fernando@201.250.13.235] has joined #edubuntu === __macgyver2__ [n=eric@unaffiliated/macgyver2] has joined #edubuntu === __macgyver2__ is now known as macgyver2