[12:02] <mesut> if I use chroot what happens to other programs?
[12:02] <rdw200169> nothing
[12:02] <_StarScream> heya ppl
[12:03] <mesut> they remain 64bit?
[12:03] <rdw200169> well, yeah
[12:03] <mesut> ok
[12:03] <mesut> thanks
[12:03] <_StarScream> are there any utils, cli or gui which i can use to list the wireless networks around me?
[12:04] <rdw200169> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[12:04] <rdw200169> that should get you started
[12:04] <Foodcoman> Afternoon.
[12:05] <_StarScream> Foodcoman, hello
[12:05] <libben> thinking of complete remove xlibs
[12:05] <libben> cause it says i can do it if i allready are running breezy
[12:06] <libben> wich iam from a full installation
[12:06] <chavo> libben, try reinstalling your cards driver first
[12:06] <libben> but when i choose to remove it, it tells me it want a bunch of dependencies
[12:07] <libben> why should i reinstall my drivers? it works perfectly and runs great in quake3
[12:08] <seth_k|lappy> _StarScream, "sudo iwlist scan"
[12:08] <_StarScream> seth_k|lappy, danke
[12:09] <seth_k|lappy> Bitte schon
[12:10] <_StarScream> :)
[12:12] <Chambers-> so how much longer till the new release? :P  getting enxious :D
[12:13] <Chambers-> anxious even
[12:21] <seth_k|lappy> oct 15ish
[12:28] <libben> do i have anything that is really bad? http://libben.pastebin.com/373209
[12:36] <libben> kde on macos =)
[12:36] <libben> http://www.appletalk.com.au/articles/index.php?article=12088
[12:39] <nmorse> Long live fink!
[12:39] <Tm_T> ?
[12:40] <libben> =)
[12:41] <nmorse> Fink is apt for OS X.
[12:41] <nmorse> A simple port of the debian repositories and related software for those on Mac OS X.
[12:42] <dell500> does anyone know the config file for wine?
[12:43] <rdw200169> are you talking about the config file that tells where the actual config file is ?
[12:43] <narg> nmorse: I thought they didnt base it off apt on the request of debian? Or not?
[12:44] <nmorse> I thought you used apt to install it?
[12:44] <dell500> rdw200169, i'm not sure lol
[12:44] <nmorse> Haven't gotten much of an opportunity to test it.
[12:44] <dell500> rdw200169, i'm trying to get dvd decrypter to work so i can burn some dvds
[12:44] <dell500> and my dvd isn't recognized
[12:44] <nmorse> My family is paranoid regarding my experiments with their macs.
[12:45] <libben> what to type for Uninstalling armyops ? that ive installed from a .run file ?
[12:45] <rdw200169> yeah, i say your mention in #cedega
[12:46] <dell500> ya
[12:46] <dell500> no one responded though, but do you know where the Version part of the config file is
[12:46] <dell500> I need to change from Win98 to nt40
[12:46] <jmg> dell50:.wine/config
[12:47] <jmg> Winver
[12:47] <rdw200169> in cedega they keep the configs for each user different
[12:47] <dell500> ok
[12:47] <jmg> in all wine they do that
[12:47] <rdw200169> and then there are specific configs for ea. piece of software
[12:47] <rdw200169> i'm just saying...
[12:49] <libben> what to type for Uninstalling armyops ? that ive installed from a .run file ?
[12:50] <libben> or is it just removing the link and folder ?
[12:56] <LokeDK> Konsole.. it uses kde's tty.. so no matter how many tabs there's opened, there won't be a new tty if i type w.. but at a friends konsole, same kde version, but suse linux.. each tab has its own tty.. Can't I change my settings or something?
[01:00] <nmorse> Do you know what ubuntu desperately needs? A good guide for turning into a mythtv machine.
[01:04] <aseigo> desparately?
[01:05] <LokeDK> mythtv = impossible :)
[01:07] <Foodcoman> I want to do MythTV with my Kubuntu.
[01:08] <Foodcoman> I have a pvr-350.
[01:08] <nmorse> I wish I could find out what my card is.
[01:08] <nmorse> It's some variety of Hauppage.
[01:08] <nmorse> With a bt878 chipset.
[01:08] <MikeStyle> hi
[01:09] <MikeStyle> I have a big problem
[01:09] <MikeStyle> I'm installing something that is asking this:What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[01:09] <MikeStyle> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 
[01:09] <MikeStyle> and thats not where they are and i dont know where they are
[01:09] <Foodcoman> nmorse: I thought there was decent support for bt878 chip!  ivtv drivers?
[01:10] <nmorse> I need to look into that more.
[01:10] <nmorse> It works.
[01:10] <nmorse> But it has all these prebuffering pauses.
[01:10] <nmorse> And there's a gap between the sound and video.
[01:10] <nmorse> The video lags behind.
[01:10] <Foodcoman> MikeStyle: Do you have the Linux Header files installed?
[01:11] <MikeStyle> no idea foodcoman O_o
[01:12] <Foodcoman> MikeStyle: Check synaptic or kynaptic and search for.....
[01:12] <Foodcoman> linux-headers
[01:12] <MikeStyle> ok
[01:13] <Foodcoman> they should match your Linux-image version.
[01:13] <Foodcoman> thats the best I have.
[01:13] <MikeStyle> foodcoman, which one do i install? there are like 10
[01:13] <MikeStyle> 17*
[01:14] <Foodcoman> Check the Linux-Image version your have installed that is your Kernel files.  the headers should be the mate to them.
[01:14] <MikeStyle> foodcoman, how do i check that
[01:14] <Foodcoman> That is in Kynaptic or synaptic also.
[01:14] <libben> how do i install nvidia drivers from nvidias site ?
[01:15] <libben> cause mine from synaptiv. wich is nvidia-glx and nvidia-settings
[01:15] <Foodcoman> Search for Linux-image  find the one with the mark which shows it is installed.
[01:15] <libben> is broken i think
[01:15] <MikeStyle> ok
[01:15] <Foodcoman> You also will see version in grub.
[01:15] <Foodcoman> At boottime.
[01:15] <Foodcoman> libben: I have never done that yet.
[01:16] <Foodcoman> MikeStyle: also I think in a console:  uname -a should show the kernel you are booting.
[01:16] <MikeStyle> i found it, thanks Foodcoman
[01:16] <Foodcoman> Great MikeStyle
[01:16] <Foodcoman> nmorse: http://btwincap.sourceforge.net/supportedcards.html
[01:17] <Foodcoman> www.google/linux and search the bt878,  should have plenty for you.
[01:17] <libben> how many fps do u guys get in glxgears?
[01:18] <Foodcoman> How do you show the fps?
[01:18] <MikeStyle> Foodcoman, now that i have them installed are they under [/usr/src/linux/include]  ?
[01:18] <Foodcoman> MikeStyle: In the package manager there should be info about location of the files for that particular package.
[01:18] <libben> well the fps is piped to the konsole where from u typed glxgears to start
[01:18] <MikeStyle> ok
[01:19] <Foodcoman> Synaptic for example Right click the item, Properties, click on the installed files tab.
[01:19] <Foodcoman> libben: haha, not showing yet in my console.
[01:19] <Foodcoman> =(
[01:19] <libben> Foodcoman: same for me
[01:19] <libben> earlier it was showing in there
[01:20] <libben> and the gears was running in a crazy speed
[01:20] <libben> and i got valuse like 3000-4000
[01:20] <libben> fps that is
[01:20] <libben> but now i dont get fps values and it goes so slow i can count the loops
[01:20] <Tm_T> haha
[01:21] <libben> but quake3 runs fine... and AA seems to choppy
[01:21] <Foodcoman> libben: Mine is nice and smooth also, Like I was turning by hand.
[01:21] <libben> yeah, same here
[01:21] <libben> hmm... quake3 is opengl.
[01:21] <libben> americasarmy is d3 ?
[01:21] <libben> direct3d i mean
[01:22] <Foodcoman> libben: I would think AA is opengl for linux native unless you needed WineX right?
[01:22] <libben> hmm
[01:23] <MikeStyle> Foodcoman, thanks alot
[01:23] <ubuntu> al
[01:23] <Foodcoman> MikeStyle: Hope it helps, I one of the dummies in here!   =)
[01:24] <asus> k
[01:24] <asus> damm
[01:24] <Foodcoman> Dinner time!  BBL
[01:24] <asus>  im so impress
[01:24] <asus> im running a cd
[01:25] <asus> (*^)
[01:25] <asus> r u ok?
[01:28] <libben> what to type for reconfigure ?
[01:28] <libben> dpkg-reconfigure xserver.conf?
[01:29] <asus> k
[01:31] <libben> should i let dri be installed ?
[01:31] <libben> when configuring nvidia?
[01:39] <musashiden> hey everybody
[01:39] <musashiden> i need some help installing flash in kubuntu
[01:42] <musashiden> i get this error
[01:42] <musashiden> ERROR: Your home directory does not have a Mozilla, Netscape, or Opera
[01:42] <musashiden>        browser user directory. Run one of these browsers at least once.
[01:43] <musashiden> is it possible to install it to konqueror?
[01:43] <chavo> musashiden, do this -> mkdir ~/.mozilla/plugins
[01:44] <chavo> then try it again
[01:45] <Jeezis> i'm looking for a disk defragmenting utility for kubuntu, can anyone help?
[01:46] <Jeezis> i have a 40 gig hard drive and somehow lost like the 28gb i had free, i have no idea how
[01:46] <musashiden> mkdir: cannot create directory `/home/adrian/.mozilla/plugins': No such file or directory
[01:46] <chavo> Jeezis, ext3 filesystem doesn't require defragmenting
[01:46] <apokryphos> musashiden: make the .mozilla first, then
[01:46] <chavo> musashiden, sorry do mkdir -p
[01:46] <duende> musashiden: yes, create that directory and re-run
[01:46] <chavo> mkdir -p ~/.mozilla/plugins
[01:46] <Jeezis> chavo: any ideas how i lost 28 gigs of space?
[01:47] <chavo> -p will create all dirs that aren't there
[01:48] <chavo> Jeezis, well you didn't lose the space to fragmentation
[01:48] <musashiden> um, i get this now
[01:48] <musashiden> NOTE: Please ask your administrator to remove the xpti.dat from the
[01:48] <musashiden>       components directory of the Mozilla or Netscape browser.
[01:52] <musashiden> hello?
[01:53] <chavo> musashiden, no idea, do you have firefox installed?
[01:53] <musashiden> i use konqueror...
[01:53] <chavo> I didn't ask you that
[01:53] <sedeki> I've found a bug in kubuntu installer.
[01:53] <musashiden> erm, nope
[01:54] <chavo> ok
[01:55] <musashiden> actually, yes
[01:55] <musashiden> i do have firefox installed
[01:56] <chavo> musashiden, try running it just to create the necessary directories in ~
[01:56] <chavo> it will create the pluginreg.dat file also
[01:57] <chavo> ok, try running it for a second to create the files in ~/.mozilla
[01:58] <apokryphos> sedeki: well.... don't keep us in suspense 8)
[02:00] <sedeki> let me try it once again.
[02:00] <musashiden> still konqueror doesnt recognizes the flash plugin
[02:02] <apokryphos> musashiden: settings -> configure konqueror -> plugins... can you verify that it's set to scan the mozilla plugin directory?
[02:02] <apokryphos> and, is libflashplayer definitely installed?
[02:04] <musashiden> um, i cant find tha libflashplayer
[02:05] <apokryphos> do you not have multiverse enabled?
[02:05] <apokryphos> !libflashplayer
[02:05] <ubotu> apokryphos: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[02:05] <apokryphos> !info libflashplayer
[02:06] <apokryphos> gah, flashplayer-mozilla, I mean
[02:07] <musashiden> !info libflashplayer-mozilla
[02:07] <musashiden> !info flashplayer-mozilla
[02:07] <ubotu> flashplayer-mozilla: (Macromedia Flash Player), section multiverse/web, is optional. Version: 7.0.25-0.0 (hoary), Packaged size: 956 kB, Installed size: 2136 kB
[02:08] <musashiden> i dont have that seccion...
[02:08] <musashiden> multiverse
[02:09] <chavo> I had a problem with the flashplayer plugin from multiverse, I had no sound when I upgraded to 3.5
[02:09] <chavo> so I installed the one from Macromedia site and it works fine
[02:09] <apokryphos> musashiden: so add it
[02:12] <musashiden> and i do that how?...
[02:21] <javier> hola
[02:23] <apokryphos> musashiden: in /etc/apt/sources.list   add "multiverse" to any line with "universe"
[02:34] <troy> is dma disabled by default for a good reason?
[02:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> troy: not all boxes like it
[02:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> so yes, a very gtood reason
[02:37] <troy> shouldn't there be a "try dma, if fail, try without dma" schema?
[02:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> maybe. but i expect a test like that would lock a box (but im not a dev, so dont know such things)
[02:38] <troy> well, it shouldn't -- it doesn't in windows :P
[02:39] <troy> which shows there has to be a way, somehow
[02:39] <troy> anyway, I don't like load of 10 when simply copying a file -- I know how to fix the problem, but it's a bad problem that shouldn't be there by default
[02:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> *shug* fiary nuff. 
[02:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> thats a bad load o_0
[02:40] <troy> yeah - turning dma on brought it down to nearly 0
[02:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> wonder why you got a load like that
[02:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> i havent turned on dma on any  of my boxes adn tehy dont hit 10
[02:42] <troy> dunno - could be related to my hardware -- using the atiixp chipset, amd64
[02:42] <troy> the load was stupid -- I got better results putting the disk in another machine and transferring over the network
[02:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> wtf. that is bad
[02:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> wonder if thats a bug :/
[02:43] <troy> perhaps I should file a bug...
[02:47] <dawid> hello
[02:47] <dawid> where can I download mozilla for kubuntu?
[02:47] <jrattner1> synaptic
[02:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> should be albe to get it from kynaptic
[02:48] <dawid> thanks, I'll try
[02:51] <apokryphos> did others know that suse got 3.5beta1 in too (either today or yesterday)? They're pretty eager-beavers themself :P
[03:04] <NeoFax> Anyone know how to fix the following for KDM? : "No profile for user 'terry' found"
[03:05] <NeoFax> I have tried everything I could think of.  All of the Xsession files match my MEPIS and UBUNTU regular installs.
[03:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> 'profile'?
[03:06] <NeoFax> I have an account for terry, and can login via gdm or from the command prompt, just not from KDM.
[03:07] <NeoFax> I do not even know when it checks for a profile and what profile it is checking for.
[03:08] <NeoFax> None of the Xsession files in /etc/kde3/kdm or /etc/X11/Xsession.d look for a profile.
[03:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> not sure sorry
[03:09] <apokryphos> Kamping_Kaiser: sober? ;-)
[03:09] <apokryphos> NeoFax: have you tried purging it and installing it again? I think there was a strange issue like this (but which was in the distant past); I'd be surprised if it cropped up again
[03:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> apokryphos: not quite, but much sobererer
[03:09] <apokryphos> no more kamping for you 
[03:10] <NeoFax> apokryphos: How would I go about purging it? apt-get --purge or dpkg -r kdm*
[03:10] <apokryphos> aptitude purge kdm, or apt-get remove --purge kdm, sure
[03:11] <NeoFax> apokryphos: Doing it right now.  Will let you know how it goes.  Thanks!
[03:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> bbl. mums bday. better go talk to her :/
[03:15] <NeoFax> apokryphos: Didn't work same thing
[03:16] <apokryphos> hm
[03:16] <apokryphos> NeoFax: if you add a new user does it log in with that?
[03:18] <NeoFax> Same thing for new user as well
[03:18] <apokryphos> weird
[03:18] <NeoFax> If I knew where it was looking for a profile I could fix it, but as I said, none of the Xsession files check for this.
[03:18] <apokryphos> NeoFax: any spooky settings or other info you think you knwo of?
[03:20] <apokryphos> it could be referring to the /etc/profile (containing PATH etc) or bash profile
[03:21] <NeoFax> Have both of those, but wonder what exactly is it looking for in them
[03:21] <apokryphos> the PATH is pretty important :P
[03:21] <apokryphos> if you didn't majorly fiddle with anything, then compile a bug report
[03:22] <NeoFax> I have a pretty much stock Kubuntu Breezy via Ubuntu then apt-got kubuntu-desktop and all changes have been upgraded
[03:22] <NeoFax> apokryphos: Already filed a bug report and two days later they had a new KDM, which still does not work
[03:23] <apokryphos> they said the uploaded version would fix it?
[03:23] <NeoFax> If I understood shell scripting, I could add breaks in the code so I know what file to look in.
[03:24] <NeoFax> No, I have not received any email from them other than saying it has been assigned to X developer.
[03:25] <apokryphos> ok; it's worth staying put then for a bit longer. 2 days isn't *that* long :P
[03:43] <myth8y> Hi, anyone know how to erase a programs from the alt+tab list?
[03:44] <duende> erase?  you mean remove them from that list or kill the program?
[03:44] <myth8y> remove fros the list
[03:44] <myth8y> from*
[03:47] <chavo> myth8y, open the window menu and go to Advanced, then click Special Window Settings
[03:47] <Chameleon22> can anyone suggest how i could convert a bunch of mp3 files into wav so i could put them on a normal audo CD?
[03:48] <myth8y> the window menu?
[03:48] <chavo> hit the icon
[03:49] <chavo> or focus the window and hit alt-F3
[03:49] <myth8y> I dont have that... its for KSmoothDock
[03:50] <chavo> ksmoothdock is in the alt-tab list
[03:50] <chavo> ?
[03:50] <chavo> wierd
[03:50] <myth8y> yes
[03:50] <chavo> hmm, it's not when I run it here.
[03:50] <myth8y> ... how did u run it?
[03:51] <chavo> myth8y, I'm running 3.5 though so it could be something they've changed
[03:51] <chavo> from commandline
[03:52] <chavo> also have ksmoothdock 3.5.1
[03:52] <myth8y> is 3.5 good?
[03:53] <chavo> I don't really use it, I just installed it to chack it out
[03:53] <lunitik> chavo: running breezy or hoary?
[03:53] <myth8y> and what r u rining now?
[03:53] <chavo> I upgraded to breezy when the preview came out
[03:54] <chavo> but havent upgraded since
[03:54] <lunitik> chavo: so you had breezy with 3.4.2?
[03:54] <chavo> no, I build my own KDE
[03:54] <lunitik> ouch
[03:54] <chavo> I have 3.5 beta
[04:10] <myth8y> Easy question... what is our kde_dir?
[04:14] <lunitik> myth8y: ~/.kde
[04:16] <myth8y> so when i do a ./configure i write ~/.kde for prefix?
[04:16] <chavo> no KDEHOME is ~/.kde
[04:16] <chavo> myth8y, what are you trying to compile?
[04:17] <lunitik> myth8y: --prefix=/home/usr or /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin etc
[04:17] <lunitik> myth8y: there really is no need for it though...
[04:19] <thoreauputic> lunitik: good to see you :) wb
[04:22] <lunitik> thoreauputic: wanted to try kde3.5b1 ... not working  :/
[04:22] <thoreauputic> ah
[04:25] <troy> d'oh! 3.5b1 is for x86 only... /me whines
[04:43] <ragnarok01> hello
[04:43] <ragnarok01> anyone can help me
[04:45] <ragnarok01> im newbie
[04:45] <ragnarok01> please
[04:48] <ragnarok01> please
[04:50] <thoreauputic> ragnarok01: not unless you ask a question
[04:51] <ragnarok01> i want to configure the nvidia audio drivers, in the docs tell me to modify the /etc/modules.conf but  i dont know where are
[04:53] <ragnarok01> anyone knows where are?
[04:55] <ragnarok01> anyone?
[04:55] <ragnarok01> or what file i need?
[04:59] <ragnarok01> help brothers help!!
[05:02] <wolfheart> i want to configure the nvidia audio drivers, in the docs tell me to modify the /etc/modules.conf but  i dont know where are
[05:02] <wolfheart> plz help
[05:02] <epiloc> did you try /etc/modules.conf?
[05:04] <wolfheart> not exist
[05:04] <wolfheart> i try it
[05:04] <wolfheart> only have modules
[05:04] <wolfheart> without .conf
[05:15] <wolfheart> exist modules.conf in kubuntu?
[05:15] <Jeezis> i have a major problem
[05:16] <Jeezis> my /var/log/ was taking up about 26 gigs of space, so i deleted the whole thing...and apparently some of those were important
[05:17] <Jeezis> is there any way i can have linux recreate these log files? xorg won't start because it's missing /var/log/Xorg.0.log 
[05:27] <hydrogen> Jeezis just touch Xorg.0.log as root
[05:42] <dorkiaa> How much free disk space do I need to install kubuntu?
[05:43] <dorkiaa> ?
[05:44] <hydrogen> 1.7G for base install I think?
[05:44] <dorkiaa> i thought it's 700 MB...
[05:44] <dorkiaa> OK, thanks
[05:56] <`Nomad> Hello gurus. :)
[05:57] <`Nomad> my apt-get installations hav estarted acting up, I get the following message atthe end:   Problem executing scripts DPkg::Post-Invoke 'dzhandle restart-pending-instances'
[05:58] <dorkiaa> 5.10 or 5.04?
[05:59] <`Nomad> 5.04
[05:59] <`Nomad> I tried dpkg -i -a in case somethign was stuck
[05:59] <`Nomad> no luck
[06:20] <propagandhi83> hello
[06:28] <_dustin_> does anyone know how to enable opengl with an sis chipset
[06:50] <zenlunatic> why is kde so slow compared to firefox?
[06:54] <incubii> ugh why are you comparing KDE, a desktop environment, to firefox a web browser ?
[06:55] <zenlunatic> sorry i meant to say konqueror
[06:56] <zenlunatic> im not trying to troll im just wondering if there were known performance issues with konqueror or something
[06:56] <zenlunatic> im trying it for teh first time
[06:59] <zenlunatic> particularly images are slow
[07:02] <Octane> if i upgrade to KDE 3.5 beta
[07:02] <Octane> can i downgrade later
[07:03] <Octane> nm, theyre only avaiable for i386
[07:03] <Octane> so forget that :)
[07:08] <Dark_Sith> morning people
[07:14] <chavo> !ntfs
[07:25] <Dark_Sith> how do i ad the multiverse repositories?
[07:41] <Jeezis> are the us and security archives messed up for anyone else?
[07:46] <edulix> hi !
[07:46] <edulix> I added kde3.5beta1 repository, did an apt-get update and then apt-get upgrade
[07:46] <edulix> but I got this:
[07:47] <edulix> Errors were encountered while processing:
[07:47] <edulix>  /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.4.91-0ubuntu0hoary1_all.deb
[07:48] <edulix> what to do now ?
[07:54] <kkathman> evening all
[07:55] <edulix> hi
[07:55] <edulix> it's morning in spain :)
[07:56] <edulix> how to force an installation of a deb even if it tries to overwrite a file from a previously isntalled deb?
[07:56] <kkathman> well good morning then
[07:56] <edulix> good morning hehe
[07:56] <kkathman> you should be able to tell it to overwrite
[07:58] <edulix> yes I found the option in dpkg, now I'll find the package in my system and install it
[07:58] <kkathman> i'm actually trying to remember the last time I did a deb :)
[08:00] <kkathman> aha it was when I installed the sun j2release
[08:02] <edulix> oh this is a mess..
[08:02] <edulix> now apt-get -f install has no other thing to do but to configure 254 packages
[08:02] <kkathman> hmmmm 
[08:02] <kkathman> thats odd
[08:08] <Jeezis> anyone unable to download anything from the us repositories? i just reinstalled kubuntu and need my updates and programs!
[08:09] <kkathman> which repositories are you talking about?
[08:10] <Jeezis> the us archives
[08:10] <Jeezis> any of them >_<
[08:11] <Jeezis> just saw apparently a lot of people are having trouble with them, on both hoary and breezy
[08:11] <Jeezis> on ubuntuforums
[08:11] <Jeezis> screw it, i'm going to bed, i'll see what's up tomorrow
[08:12] <kkathman> hmm I just tried and seems to be ok
[08:12] <kkathman> at least the us.archive ones
[08:53] <epiloc> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/t/traceroute/traceroute_1.4a12-18_i386.deb
[08:53] <epiloc>   Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (82.211.81.182). - connect (111 Connection refused) [IP: 82.211.81.182 80] 
[08:59] <Tm_T> epiloc: change it to use ftp
[09:00] <epiloc> its down
[09:20] <musashi> hey um, anyone knows what this error means?
[09:20] <musashi> configure: error: Could not find libmysqlclient in ' /usr/lib /usr/lib/mysql                    /usr/local/lib /usr/local/lib/mysql                    /usr/local/mysql/lib'
[09:20] <musashi> checking for "/usr/local/mysql/lib/libmysqlclient.a"... no
[09:23] <Ming2k> i am receiving "Connection Refused" to us.archive.ubuntu.com and security.ubuntu.com via apt-get, anyone know why?
[09:30] <cevizoglu> the server is down
[09:38] <taneli> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
Official repositories</body>
[09:38] <Ming2k> musashi: you got libmysqlclient package installed?
[09:38] <taneli> Are the official repositories down?
[09:42] <rdw200169> question: how do i print the help/user guides that are in http in ONE operation
[09:42] <rdw200169> rather than clicking through ea. page
[09:42] <rdw200169> example: the quanta plus user guide that only comes in http format
[09:43] <rdw200169> and only http format >-0
[09:45] <Ming2k> rdw200169: for i in 'find $LOCATION_OF_HTML_FILES -type f' do; lpr $i; done ;)
[09:46] <rdw200169> wow, i'm impress
[09:46] <rdw200169> *impressed :)
[09:46] <Ming2k> that is if you like reading HTML 
[09:47] <rdw200169> it would be great if they would just release some pdf's for everything so i can print some idiot proof reading material for my 'students'
[09:52] <Ming2k> more elegant aproach ----> for i in `find $LOCATION_OF_HTML -type f` do; lynx $i | lpr; done
[09:52] <Ming2k> that should actually show the rendered page (minus images) and send it off to lpr to get printed
[09:53] <Ming2k> wont be the nicest of formats but better than HTML:)
[09:53] <rdw200169> ooooohhh, gonna try it....
[09:53] <dell500> anyone know how to get dual displays goin' with it extended, not clone
[09:54] <Ming2k> oh i forgot to add -dump flag to lynx
[09:54] <Ming2k> the lynx command should look like.... lynx -dump $i
[09:55] <Ming2k> oh and you maybe better of restricting find to only looking for html files
[09:58] <rdw200169> gonna have to wait, the repositories are down and i don't have lynx (ha ha!)
[09:59] <Ming2k> :)
[10:26] <spiral> "Could not connect to uk.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (82.211.81.182). - connect (111 Connection refused) [IP: 82.211.81.182 80] "
[10:26] <spiral> is it normal ?
[10:30] <morrow> is there a project planner (like the gnome planner) for kde?
[10:38] <buz> mhh i think the notice about archive.ubuntu.com wouldn't hurt here, either?
[10:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> does anyone know how i could mirror the x86 part of an ubuntu mirror?
[10:44] <buz> wget?
[10:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> wget the binary-i386 dir?
[10:45] <buz> that should do it no?
[10:46] <buz> !wishlist
[10:46] <ubotu> buz: Are you smoking crack?
[10:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> !yes
[10:46] <ubotu> Yes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thought it, eh, kamping_kaiser?
[10:46] <buz> where's the wiki page to suggest new packages?
[10:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> not sure.
[10:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> packagesforinclusion ?
[11:04] <rrichie> hi all
[11:05] <rrichie> i'm building deb of kde3.5 for breezy but when i dpkg the debs of kdeadmin it says it is in conflict with kdelibs4c2. Someone has an idea?
[11:09] <morrow> hmmmm now taskjuggler in kubuntu
[11:09] <morrow> -w
[11:14] <aftertaf> Riddell: hi... just went to 3.5 beta. but problem with kdelibs package... broken pipe
[11:21] <jpatrick> is there something wrong with apt/the repos?
[11:21] <buz> yes archive.ubuntu.com is down
[11:22] <elpauer> hi
[11:22] <jpatrick> i use the gb.* one but it's down too
[11:22] <jpatrick> elpauer: hello
[11:23] <elpauer> am I the only one with a broken antialiasing in KUbuntu Breezy preview?
[11:27] <rrichie> aftertaf : i have the problem when installing ksstd
[11:27] <aftertaf> broken dependencies eh? better disabling and waiting 
[11:30] <rrichie> no it says
[11:31] <rrichie> broken pipe
[11:31] <rrichie> i can do anything after that
[11:31] <chakie> hm, gam_server started spewing oops:es in syslog and then the system died. nasty
[11:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> gam_server is causing issues :/
[11:34] <chakie> it doesn't even have a man-page
[11:34] <chakie> usually it just starts hogging the cpu and has to be killed
[11:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> yep
[11:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> its no t something a user can play with. AFIAK its part of hal
[11:36] <chakie> ah
[11:36] <chakie> although, there is man-pages for a lot of stuff that users can't play with 
[11:37] <chakie> this whole hal stuff seems quite overrated
[11:37] <chakie> when i plugged in my ipod something auto-did something and the whole usb subsystem oops:ed, leading to a reboot
[11:38] <chakie> right now i don't dare try the ipod under linux anymore, i'll use it on our obsolete and slow windows laptop instead
[11:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> report a bug. only way ill get fixed
[12:14] <thomas> hello
[12:14] <thomas> \nick Thomas
[12:16] <Thomas> since this morning my apt-get on http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy don't work anymore... is this a known problem?
[12:17] <rdfm> Thomas
[12:17] <rdfm> Thomas: yup
[12:17] <Thomas> ok
[12:17] <rdfm> Thomas: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[12:17] <Thomas> what's the problem?
[12:18] <rdfm> archive.ubuntu.com is down it seems
[12:18] <rdfm> dunno why...
[12:18] <Thomas> are you dutch too ?
[12:18] <rdfm> no, from Italy
[12:19] <Thomas> ok same problem over there?
[12:19] <rdfm> yes, it.archive.ubuntu.org is down too
[12:20] <rdfm> check the link and try one of those mirrors
[12:20] <Thomas> ok thank you :)
[12:20] <rdfm> np :)
[12:24] <_thomas> test
[12:36] <_thomas> is there a place where i can drop my ubuntu breezy bugs?
[12:37] <m0ns00n> Hey
[12:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi
[12:38] <m0ns00n> How do I set a kde-wide "default encoding"?
[12:38] <m0ns00n> I'm killing myself here with loosing my norwegian characters when an app uses the default utf8 encoding ...
[12:38] <m0ns00n> Do I really have to go in every single one and set the encoding to iso?
[12:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> when you log in with kdm try setting it there, im not sure what its called though.
[12:39] <m0ns00n> in kdm?
[12:39] <m0ns00n> Do I have options there?
[12:39] <m0ns00n> are you sure?
[12:39] <m0ns00n> I thought it'd be in kcontrol somewhere
[12:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> not sure, i use gnome. but gdm login has an option
[12:40] <m0ns00n> wierd and it also affects the apps?
[12:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> 'dpkg-reconfigure locale' or similar might help as well
[12:40] <m0ns00n> wierd..
[12:40] <m0ns00n> ok
[12:41] <m0ns00n> Package `locale' is not installed and no info is available.
[12:41] <morrow> locales
[12:41] <m0ns00n> hmm
[12:41] <m0ns00n> Many different ones are selected there, nothing about a default encoding.
[12:42] <m0ns00n> Specificly nothing about a default KDE encoding.
[12:42] <m0ns00n> Which is what I'm looking for -- might have been a bit unclear about that, sorry.
[12:43] <morrow> u'll set the default systemwide encoding
[12:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> im no more use then that, sorry :)
[12:43] <morrow> kde honors that...
[12:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> *:(
[12:44] <morrow> first u have to enable all iso encodings so that they will be generated
[12:44] <morrow> in the next dialog u'll set the default encoding for your system
[01:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi incubii
[01:08] <incubii> hiya Kamping_Kaiser 
[01:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> i didnt know you were in australia
[01:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> apokryphos: if you say its down, you should say the http: bit is 
[01:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> because the next bit you tell ppl to use teh same server
[01:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> just with ftp:
[01:10] <apokryphos> Kamping_Kaiser: good point; go for it
[01:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> i cant....
[01:10] <jpatrick> there's an ftp one?
[01:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> yep. so it seems ;)
[01:11] <apokryphos> Kamping_Kaiser: sure you can
[01:11] <apokryphos> not locked =)
[01:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> o_0
[01:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> seriously?
[01:11] <apokryphos> sure, of course not
[01:11] <apokryphos> (in smaller channels that's generally always the case)
[01:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> yep. but i would have thought a public chan would be restricted
[01:13] <apokryphos> no point, really; much better like this
[01:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> apokryphos: each time you loose a bit off the end :o
[01:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> btw. how do you change it?
[01:14] <apokryphos> d'oh; too large
[01:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[01:14] <aftertaf> hehe
[01:14] <apokryphos> Kamping_Kaiser: if your irc client doesn't have a direct feature, then just /topic SOMetopic
[01:14] <aftertaf> anyone know how to join 15 avi files into one big file?
[01:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok. i use gaim. i usualy `topic blah because i use austnet
[01:15] <apokryphos> there
[01:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> wd :)
[01:16] <aftertaf> avimerge :)
[01:17] <jpatrick> apokryphos: is there a ftp://gb.* one?
[01:18] <apokryphos> yup
[01:18] <jpatrick> :D
[01:18] <apokryphos> though I think plain ftp://arch is the GB mirror
[01:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> theres a wiki listing the mirrors isnt there?
[01:18] <jpatrick> yep
[01:19] <apokryphos> there is one, yeah
[01:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[01:21] <jpatrick> yeah ftp!
[01:31] <libben> how many here are waiting for optimus kb?
[01:31] <_thomas> is there a log of this irc channel ?? 
[01:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> _thomas: not afaik. only what ppl log themselfs (but i could be wrong)
[01:32] <apokryphos> There is...
[01:32] <apokryphos> !logs
[01:32] <ubotu> Channel Logs are at: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/
[01:32] <_thomas> thanks :)
[01:33] <apokryphos> _thomas: thank ubuntulog :P
[01:33] <_thomas> btw i like the optimus but is is a very expensive keyboard
[01:33] <_thomas> ;)
[01:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> cool. *remembers public logs*
[01:33] <_thomas> http://www.artlebedev.com/portfolio/optimus/
[01:34] <apokryphos> looks long
[01:36] <libben> not so much longer.
[01:38] <_thomas> since 1 day (after some updates) my audigy 2 card don't work anymore is this a known bug? I have breezy
[01:39] <bazan> is theire no icon for adept?
[01:40] <_thomas> utilities > Adapt
[01:40] <_thomas> utilities > Adept
[01:41] <apokryphos> bazan: not yet I don't think; kde-artists are working on it
[01:41] <bazan> hum, so bad
[01:41] <bazan> I'm not an artist but I'll try somthing
[01:41] <mornfall> apokryphos: i don't think anyone is working on anything
[01:42] <mornfall> apokryphos: i'll get the generic package icon slapped on it, i assume
[01:42] <apokryphos> there is an entry for it in kde-artists, no?
[01:42] <bazan> do you know an image gallery wich I can use?
[01:42] <apokryphos> bazan: gallery for what? A website?
[01:43] <bazan> apokryphos: yes a website with image freely usable to do an icon for adept
[01:43] <apokryphos> mornfall: http://kde-artists.org/main/component/option,com_smf/Itemid,48/expv,0/topic,345.0
[01:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> does anyoneknow how large an ubuntu mirror would be?
[01:44] <apokryphos> bazan: we'd be using it if there was one :P
[01:44] <mornfall> apokryphos: so what? the forum didn't produce anything useful, really...
[01:44] <mornfall> apokryphos: not for an icon
[01:44] <mornfall> and anyway
[01:44] <mornfall> --> cooking
[01:44] <apokryphos> Kamping_Kaiser: quite a few gigs, I'd think. Depends on whether you go for a CD ISO image, too
[01:44] <ethanfel> heelo i search library qt-mt if any know ?
[01:44] <apokryphos> probably more disturbing would be the bandwidth it would suck up :P
[01:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. i have 30 to play with
[01:45] <apokryphos> ethanfel: qt3-mt
[01:45] <apokryphos> *libqt3-mt
[01:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> i know a debian mirror is 300G, but i cant find anything on ubuntu
[01:45] <ethanfel> libqt3-3mt-dev is good ?
[01:45] <apokryphos> ethanfel: if you're on Hoary, then libqt3c102-mt
[01:46] <pointwood> anyone know the keyboard shortcut to shift between tabs in Konversation?
[01:46] <apokryphos> ethanfel: for the Qt includes, that's correct, yes.
[01:46] <libben> ctrl , and ctrl .
[01:46] <apokryphos> pointwood: I don't know what the default is, but you can make one ;-)
[01:46] <libben> pointwood: ^^ 
[01:46] <pointwood> ahh...thx :)
[01:46] <libben> np
[01:46] <pointwood> been looking for them :)
[01:46] <libben> someday ill get help from u =) 
[01:47] <apokryphos> pointwood: Settings -> Configure Shortcuts
[01:47] <pointwood> doh!
[01:47] <pointwood> I feel stupid
[01:47] <pointwood> I've been looking all over the help file for them :)
[01:47] <libben> wich plugins do i need for ff? cause on some sites i cant see what plugin it wants.
[01:47] <ethanfel> that's no work :( when i try to install klineakconfig i hva this error :checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.1.0) (library qt-mt) not found. Please check your installation!
[01:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> !tell Kamping_Kaiser about mirrors
[01:48] <ethanfel> but libqt3-mt is install
[01:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> !tell Kamping_Kaiser about archives
[01:48] <apokryphos> pointwood: KDE applications tend to share the same menu structure on many things. Thus, you'll always find a Settings -> Configure Application, Settings -> Configure Shortcut etc etc in the same place
[01:48] <libben> http://media.putfile.com/jeu_jap
[01:48] <libben> like this site
[01:48] <libben> cant see those clips there
[01:48] <apokryphos> ethanfel: ?
[01:48] <libben> what do i need?
[01:49] <pointwood> apokryphos: just shows that I'm still a n00b :)
[01:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> is anyone here good at searching bugzilla?
[01:49] <libben> http://www.putfile.com/
[01:49] <libben> its sfv and video... but on other sites i see some media streaming
[01:49] <libben> but not here
[01:49] <libben> what do i miss ?
[01:49] <libben> quicktime ?
[01:49] <libben> are the repos still down btw ?
[01:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> afaik yes
[01:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> http is 
[01:50] <pointwood> nice clip libben 
[01:50] <pointwood> :D
[01:51] <apokryphos> libben: ftp should be just fine though
[01:51] <libben> pointwood: well, i would love to see it too
[01:51] <libben> but i cant
[01:51] <pointwood> libben: mozilla-mplayer handled it fine for me
[01:53] <orace|> hi!
[01:53] <orace|> I want to remove openoffice2 from my kubuntu install
[01:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi
[01:54] <orace|> but I don't want to remove kubuntu-desktop
[01:54] <orace|> what to do?
[01:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> apt-get remove openoffice.org2 (.org?)
[01:55] <orace|> but then it wants to remove kubuntu-desktop
[01:55] <libben> when i mark mozilla-mplayer
[01:55] <orace|> is that safe?
[01:55] <libben> it wanna mark mplayer-386 that is in the list
[01:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> orace|: so your  using breezy?
[01:55] <apokryphos> orace|: you have two options
[01:55] <orace|> Kamping_Kaiser yeah
[01:55] <pointwood> libben: that's what I use IIRC
[01:55] <libben> can i unmark it before i aply ? and then choose mplayer-686 instad
[01:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh, its safe to remove the metta package, but it might not upgrade properly
[01:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> libben: install mplayer-686 then to whatever you need
[01:56] <apokryphos> orace|: remove it and remove kubuntu-desktop (it's only a metapackage, but it's important for upgrades; make sure you have it before any dist-upgrade)
[01:56] <apokryphos> orace|: or... create an openoffice.org2 dummy package
[01:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> or use openoffice ;)
[01:56] <orace|> using ooo2 is out of the question
[01:57] <orace|> it takes way too long to statr up
[01:57] <orace|> start
[01:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> whats your hardware? 
[01:57] <libben> well i let it install all the suggestions. then i just remove mplayer-386 and choose mplayer-686
[01:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> and yues, i agree
[01:57] <orace|> a pentium M 1.7 + 512MB ram
[01:57] <orace|> it takes like 20secs just to show the splash screen!"#%
[01:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> god, your spoiled
[01:57] <orace|> yeah, I am :D
[01:57] <orace|> I'm norwegian :D
[01:57] <pointwood> I've had problems with the 686 version
[01:57] <orace|> $$$$$$$$$$$:D
[01:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[01:58] <auer> deutsche hier?
[01:58] <pointwood> nope
[01:58] <orace|> hehe
[01:58] <pointwood> or rather nein ;)
[01:58] <OculusAquilae> auer: #kubuntu-de
[01:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> nein. 
[01:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> what he said ;)
[01:59] <pointwood> orace|: where in Norway?
[01:59] <orace|> pointwood, I live in lesund, but I'm from Sandane, S&F
[02:00] <pointwood> dunno where that is, but I've been to norway several times
[02:00] <libben> http://media.putfile.com/FamilyGuy-FartsSong
[02:00] <pointwood> <-- Danish :)
[02:00] <libben> hooray it worked
[02:00] <libben>  =)
[02:00] <libben> <---swedish
[02:00] <orace|> here's a webcam from my home town -> http://webcam.datainstituttet.no/jpg/image.jpg
[02:00] <libben> while were at it =)
[02:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> <-- forein
[02:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> *sp
[02:01] <pointwood> let's rule the # scandinavians! :p
[02:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> <--- australian
[02:01] <orace|> hehe
[02:02] <pointwood> Kamping_Kaiser: half-danish - our crown-princes is from Tasmania :p
[02:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> pointwood: yeh, i know... i know someone who knows someone... etc ;D im from tas myself
[02:02] <pointwood> ahh :)
[02:03] <libben> pointwood: can u see this one ? http://media.putfile.com/CryENGINE2_PDC05
[02:03] <pointwood> *click*
[02:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> pointwood: in tas its realy easy to know 90% of popl through 2 or 3 degrees of seperation
[02:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> total population of the state is 400 000 or so ppl
[02:04] <libben> this one was a laugh http://media.putfile.com/realDoom
[02:05] <pointwood> libben: yes, that works fine
[02:05] <libben> i couldent
[02:05] <libben> think its wmv file
[02:07] <pointwood> you need the windows encoders then
[02:07] <pointwood> can't remember the name
[02:08] <apokryphos> w32codecs
[02:08] <pointwood> ahh..yees
[02:21] <orace|> hwy any of you guys got some excellent tutorial on how to build a (dummy) debian package? I can't seem to find anything :(
[02:21] <orace|> hey*
[02:22] <jpatrick> orace|: maybe https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuPackagingGuide ?
[02:23] <orace|> oh hey thanks man
[02:23] <orace|> *big hug*
[02:38] <Floker|afk> yeah yeah yeah wazzzzuuuuup?!?!?!11
[02:38] <mcp_dk> wazzup 
[02:39] <mcp_dk> i tried to install DVD::RIP in ubuntu but got an error that the package was broken. Does anybody know another way to install this program (E.g. another archive )
[02:45] <johan> anyone here who has got the icons "outline"? I can't download them, connection timeou
[02:46] <Bambi_BOFH> i might use this nic for a while
[02:46] <johan> what is the best minimalistic icon set for kde?
[02:53] <ManLord> Hey does anyone know of a ftp client that supports something like this: <programname> open <hostname> <login> <password> send <somefile>, and support all this from the first commandline. So I can schedule it to be done automatically?
[02:55] <seaLne> ManLord: ncftpput maybe?
[02:57] <mcp_dk> deb http://dk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[02:57] <mcp_dk> deb-src http://dk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[02:58] <mcp_dk> sorry mistype
[02:58] <mcp_dk> i tried to install DVD::RIP in ubuntu but got an error that the package was broken. Does anybody know another way to install this program (E.g. another archive )
[03:10] <jatos> hi
[03:11] <Bambi_BOFH> hi
[03:11] <Floker> kubuntu is teh uber rox
[03:11] <Bambi_BOFH> heh. mater of taste
[03:12] <hydrogen> hi troll
[03:12] <Floker> is someone from teh uk oder usa here?
[03:12] <Floker> i'd like to know how much an ipod nano is over there
[03:13] <Floker> or elsewhere
[03:13] <Floker> i'd like to compare it
[03:14] <Bambi_BOFH> try apples website
[03:15] <Floker> lol
[03:15] <Floker> thx, too bad i didnt get this myself
[03:15] <Floker> =)
[03:16] <ManLord> seaLne: thanks, that worked!
[03:16] <Floker> need a currency converter :) lol
[03:17] <Bambi_BOFH> Floker: try xe.com (iircZ)
[03:17] <Bambi_BOFH> *(iirc)
[03:17] <Floker> thanks
[03:19] <Floker> in the uk, it costs about 18usd more than in germany
[03:19] <Floker> intresting
[03:19] <Floker> %)
[03:22] <Floker> in japan, its about 100$ cheaper
[03:22] <Floker> damn
[03:26] <mornfall> wibble
[03:27] <roberto> italian?
[03:28] <Floker> whom do you mean?
[03:39] <Tortel> tis quiet here
[03:39] <Tortel> :(
[03:40] <orace|> :(
[03:40] <jpatrick> yeah..
[03:40] <Leshrac> I am running kubuntu and I am unable to get sound, I have an asrock motherboard with an integrated sound chip.
[03:40] <Leshrac> can someone point me what to do?
[03:40] <Floker> i dont know excactly
[03:40] <Tortel> do you have a sound card installed?
[03:40] <Floker> i've got a similar setup
[03:41] <Tortel> multiple line out jacks?
[03:41] <Floker> type lspci into a console
[03:41] <Floker> as user
[03:41] <Leshrac> 0000:00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  Sound Controller (rev a0)
[03:41] <Floker> sounds allright
[03:42] <Leshrac> this is what I get from lspci
[03:42] <Leshrac> no, I don't have any sound cards, I'm trying to use the motherboard one
[03:42] <jpatrick> Tortel: same here just I don't have a motherboard one
[03:42] <Floker> yes, so no other soundcard and the onboard sc has been noticed correctly
[03:43] <Floker> well then, which sound-system is active?
[03:43] <Floker> check it via the control-center
[03:43] <Leshrac> sound & multimedia?
[03:44] <Floker> yes
[03:44] <Floker> then sound-system
[03:44] <Floker> or somehting (mine isnt english)
[03:45] <johan> instead of having to open swf-files in firefox, are there any ways of getting them to play in kaffeine or a dedicated flash player window?
[03:45] <Leshrac> Floker, I am there
[03:45] <Leshrac> but I don't know what to check
[03:45] <Floker> try to search for "flash" in synaptic johan
[03:45] <johan> Floker: I did, but I'll try again
[03:46] <Floker> there should be something like "auto-detect" or "alsa" or "oss" 
[03:46] <Floker> leshrac
[03:46] <johan> Floker: there was a package called swf-player
[03:46] <Tortel> johan: right click and save em
[03:46] <Floker> have a try =)
[03:47] <Tortel> and open them with whatever
[03:47] <Leshrac> there's a line that says "select the audio device:" in the hardware tab, it is set to autodetect
[03:47] <Leshrac> floker
[03:47] <Floker> set it to alsa
[03:47] <johan> Tortel: I have them on my hd, but they only open in firefox, I tried lots of different applications, but nothing could open it
[03:47] <Floker> well, im not sure, but give it a try
[03:48] <Tortel> johan: no idea then, was my only good idea :P
[03:48] <Leshrac> Floker: is there a sound somewhere that I can play to make testing easier?
[03:48] <Floker> isnt there a button captioned "test sound" or similar?
[03:48] <Floker> there should be two 
[03:49] <Floker> one for wave and one for midi
[03:49] <Leshrac> yes but
[03:49] <Leshrac> neither is working
[03:49] <Floker> which mainboard do you have?
[03:49] <Leshrac> an asrock one
[03:50] <Floker> yes you said 
[03:50] <Floker> but which one?
[03:51] <Leshrac> 7KV something I think can't remember the whole number
[03:51] <Leshrac> is there any way to check?
[03:51] <Floker> its not that important
[03:51] <Tortel> probably written on the board
[03:51] <Floker> but it would help to google if someone had the same problem
[03:52] <Tortel> mine is, but its an asus
[03:52] <Floker> its written on my asrock board too. but as i said its not that important
[03:53] <Leshrac> wich one do you have?
[03:53] <Floker> k7s8x
[03:53] <Floker> its an older one
[03:53] <Floker> i guess
[03:53] <Octane> are we gonna see kde 3.5 beta amd64 packages soon?
[03:53] <Leshrac> k7s8x
[03:53] <Leshrac> it is exactly the same as mine
[03:53] <Floker> wtf
[03:54] <Floker> then it should wok
[03:54] <Floker> work
[03:54] <Floker> cus it works here
[03:54] <Floker> =)
[03:54] <Leshrac> your's works without configuring anything?
[03:54] <Floker> yes
[03:54] <Leshrac> *-yours
[03:54] <Leshrac> on 5.04?
[03:54] <Floker> yes
[03:55] <Floker> misterious
[03:55] <Leshrac> this fucking board is playing tricks on me
[03:55] <Floker> have you set up anything? or just installed?
[03:56] <Floker> did
[03:57] <Leshrac> yeah...
[03:57] <Leshrac> but it has never worked
[03:57] <Floker> did you try other linux-distibutions?
[03:57] <Floker> or even windows?
[03:57] <Leshrac> my windows install somehow died when I installed kubuntu
[03:58] <Leshrac> now it says it lacks hall.dll
[03:58] <Floker> but this is not a problem, i guess?
[03:58] <Leshrac> and well, it is kind of hard to replace considering linux can't write ntfs
[03:59] <Leshrac> no well, it wouldn't be a problem if sound worked
[03:59] <Floker> if your hardrive is 50% free, you aint got a problem
[03:59] <Floker> thats strange
[03:59] <Leshrac> I've got a 120GB hd
[03:59] <Floker> should be enough =)
[03:59] <Leshrac> and only about 16GB are partitioned, the rest is empy space
[04:00] <Floker> perfect =)
[04:00] <Floker> i suggest you post your problem to the ubuntu-forums
[04:00] <Floker> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[04:00] <Leshrac> can you tell me wich modules you have online?
[04:00] <Leshrac> and you lspci?
[04:00] <Floker> what modules?
[04:00] <Leshrac> to see if they are the same, as they should be
[04:01] <Floker> 0000:00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  Sound                                                                             Controller (rev a0)
[04:01] <Floker> and the soundsystem is "autodetect"
[04:01] <Leshrac> use lsmod
[04:02] <Floker> woo
[04:02] <Floker> i cant post the whole results here =)
[04:02] <Floker> snd_intel8x0           29984  2
[04:02] <Floker> snd_ac97_codec         64608  1 snd_intel8x0
[04:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> #flood
[04:03] <Floker> snd_pcm_oss            47652  0
[04:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> or pastebin
[04:03] <Floker> snd_mixer_oss          16768  1 snd_pcm_oss
[04:03] <Floker> snd_pcm                84872  4 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
[04:03] <Floker> snd_timer              23300  1 snd_pcm
[04:03] <Floker> snd                    50276  9 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer
[04:03] <Floker> soundcore               9824  1 snd
[04:03] <Floker> snd_page_alloc          9604  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
[04:03] <Floker> what? he needed it. this is not flooding
[04:03] <Floker> calm down ;)
[04:03] <Leshrac> #flood is a channel used for this kind of thing I guess
[04:04] <Floker> a useless one
[04:04] <Floker> =)
[04:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> thats a fsking huge flood
[04:04] <Floker> but why does it bother you at all?
[04:05] <Leshrac> odd, everything is the same
[04:05] <Floker> right :-)
[04:06] <Leshrac> only difference I noticed: snd_intel8x0           29984  0 yours has a 2 instead of a 0
[04:06] <Leshrac> I have no clue on what does that number mean though
[04:06] <Floker> ive got an ide
[04:06] <Floker> go to the bios-setup and set setup defaults
[04:06] <Leshrac> what's that?
[04:07] <Floker> if yoz boot up your computer
[04:07] <Leshrac> ah k
[04:07] <Floker> there should stand something like "press f2 to enter setup"
[04:07] <Floker> or another key
[04:07] <Leshrac> I thought you were talking about the graphical interface
[04:07] <Floker> i dont remember
[04:07] <Leshrac> it is a bit alien to me
[04:07] <Floker> oh no =)
[04:08] <Floker> do you know how get into the bios-setup?
[04:08] <Leshrac> yes
[04:08] <Floker> have a try. there should be something like "reset bios defaults" or similar
[04:08] <Leshrac> but I can't recall changing anything bar the boot sequence
[04:08] <Floker> why?
[04:08] <Leshrac> cya in a while, rebooting
[04:08] <Floker> wait
[04:08] <Floker> let me ask you something first, a little ot
[04:09] <Tortel> i wanna chat with the terminal, but it keeps bashing me
[04:09] <Tortel> :(
[04:09] <Floker> if you want to say "black and white and white and black"
[04:09] <Floker> can you say "black and white and vice versa"?
[04:09] <Floker> the german term is umgekehrt (reversed)
[04:09] <Floker> i want to know how to say that in english
[04:10] <Leshrac> I'm not an authority in english
[04:10] <Leshrac> but I think you can do it
[04:10] <Floker> sounds good
[04:10] <Leshrac> it works this way in spanish and catalan too
[04:10] <Floker> k then
[04:10] <Floker> international chan =)
[04:10] <Floker> k have a try with the setup thing
[04:11] <Leshrac> yeah, thanks for the help
[04:11] <Floker> youre welcome
[04:11] <Leshrac> gonna try setting defaults in the bios
[04:11] <Floker> ok
[04:12] <Tortel> evil terminal
[04:12] <Tortel> see??!?
[04:12] <Tortel> http://www.warpmod.com/dev/Tortel/bash.png
[04:12] <Floker> olol
[04:12] <Floker> nice
[04:12] <Floker> =)
[04:13] <Tortel> (and im not using kubuntu, just plain ubuntu)
[04:13] <Tortel> not sure why im here then...
[04:13] <Floker> i see, i never tried gnome
[04:13] <Floker> hehe
[04:14] <Bambi_BOFH> heh. i dont use kde :) so no one knows what they are doing ;)
[04:14] <Floker> there are misc. commands with kinda an effect
[04:14] <Floker> i the terminal
[04:14] <Floker> i guess
[04:14] <Floker> thy en
[04:14] <Floker> em
[04:14] <Floker> :)
[04:15] <Tortel> i like gnome, and i think i have core KDE stuff installed
[04:15] <Bambi_BOFH> !launchpad
[04:15] <ubotu> Bambi_BOFH: Do they come in packets of five?
[04:15] <Bambi_BOFH> !bugzilla
[04:15] <ubotu> somebody said bugzilla was at http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[04:16] <Tortel> i installed KDE games
[04:16] <Floker> they rue
[04:16] <Floker> rule
[04:16] <Floker> kde-games
[04:16] <Tortel> konquest rules
[04:16] <Leshrac> nah, sound isn't working
[04:16] <Tortel> lots o fun
[04:16] <Floker> the tuberling is kinda the cooles guy on earth
[04:17] <Leshrac> I advise you open a shell and write: sudo apt-get install pingus
[04:17] <Leshrac> best game in the world
[04:17] <Floker> wait i'll try
[04:17] <Leshrac> it's lemmings, but with penguins instead of lemmings
[04:18] <_liteinside03> hi
[04:18] <Floker> kool
[04:18] <Floker> lemmings is teh pwn
[04:18] <Leshrac> there's a fair share of classical game clones using penguins
[04:18] <_liteinside03> hello
[04:18] <Floker> yes
[04:18] <Floker> =)
[04:18] <Floker> hello
[04:18] <Leshrac> super tux is the same game a super mario bros
[04:19] <Floker> that cool too
[04:19] <Leshrac> just with a penguis instead of a fat plumber
[04:19] <Tortel> nooo
[04:19] <Tortel> couldent find the package
[04:19] <_liteinside03> hello
[04:19] <libben> is the repos fixed yet ?
[04:19] <Floker> HELLO DUDE
[04:19] <Floker> WAZZUP?
[04:19] <Floker> once more =)
[04:20] <_liteinside03> hello, am a kubuntu newbie
[04:20] <Floker> you are a funny guy
[04:20] <Leshrac> yeah, repositories don't look like working well, if you can't find a apckage, try again tomorrow, or next week. ;)
[04:20] <_liteinside03> how do i install packages?
[04:20] <Leshrac> using: apt-get install
[04:21] <_liteinside03> how do i use apt-get?
[04:21] <Floker> slow
[04:21] <Leshrac> that or just run kynaptic
[04:21] <_liteinside03> sorry
[04:21] <Floker> open a console
[04:21] <Floker> type "sudo su"
[04:21] <Floker> (without "")
[04:21] <_liteinside03> ok..
[04:21] <_liteinside03> then
[04:21] <Floker> then type "apt-get install pingus"
[04:21] <_liteinside03> ok..
[04:21] <Floker> replace pingus with the package of your choise
[04:21] <Floker> choice
[04:22] <Leshrac> yeah, but you definately want to isntall pingus
[04:22] <_liteinside03> where should i put my package? home?
[04:22] <Floker> but you have to set up repositories first
[04:22] <_liteinside03> how?
[04:22] <Floker> what? with apt you cannot put them anywhere
[04:23] <Floker> something else first
[04:23] <Floker> press alt+f2
[04:23] <_liteinside03> where should put them then?
[04:23] <monkey89> hey - i have two mounted partitions in /media (ext3 and ntfs)... how can I get them to show up in media:/ and the desktop?
[04:23] <jpatrick> Floker: don't do sudo su
[04:23] <Floker> why?
[04:23] <jpatrick> it's sudo -s
[04:23] <_liteinside03> ?? am lost in here
[04:23] <kinfo> No match for "am"
[04:23] <Floker> opens a temorary root serrion, its okay
[04:23] <Floker> i guess
[04:24] <jpatrick> or sudo -i
[04:24] <jpatrick> but remember to do 'logout' if you do sudo -i
[04:24] <_liteinside03> what's -s and -i?
[04:24] <Floker> whatever
[04:24] <Floker> dont confuse him
[04:25] <_liteinside03> su is super user, right?
[04:25] <Floker> yes
[04:25] <libben> anyone runs breezy in here and gets fps values in konsole with glxgears ?
[04:25] <jpatrick> _liteinside03: see: man:/sudo
[04:25] <_liteinside03> so how do i set up repositories?
[04:25] <monkey89> libben: glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[04:25] <Floker> open "kate" as root
[04:25] <Tortel-afk> l8r
[04:25] <Leshrac> sudo su will work, it is using 2 commands to do something that would be done with only one, but will work.
[04:25] <Bambi_BOFH> libben: monkey89 is not screwing with you... thats what you have to put in
[04:25] <Tortel-afk> (XMMS RULEZ!)
[04:26] <Tortel-afk> :P
[04:26] <Floker> via alt+f2 -> settings -> as another user -> root+ your users password -> kate
[04:26] <Floker> the captions can be similar, i have a localized version
[04:26] <libben> lol
[04:26] <libben> kewl
[04:26] <Floker> then open /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:26] <libben> well
[04:26] <libben> got so so values
[04:26] <libben> 2806 fps
[04:26] <Floker> _liteinside03: i have got a better idea
[04:27] <_liteinside03> ok.. kate is the password for the root?
[04:27] <Floker> no
[04:27] <libben> no
[04:27] <Floker> kate is what you should open
[04:27] <Floker> the roots password is your users password
[04:27] <libben> kate is like notepad in windows
[04:27] <Floker> but better :)
[04:27] <Bambi_BOFH> much better :)
[04:28] <_liteinside03> oh, okay
[04:28] <libben> anyone wanna clue me in why my quake3 dont read what i change in my .cfg files ?
[04:28] <jpatrick> _liteinside03: just do -> Alt-F2 -> 'kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list'
[04:28] <Floker> http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kf1.html#h2add
[04:28] <Floker> look here
[04:28] <Floker> everything is explained here
[04:28] <Floker> step by step
[04:28] <Floker> sry but i have to leave
[04:28] <_liteinside03> okay, i got it open..
[04:28] <Floker> see you guys
[04:28] <_liteinside03> thanks..
[04:29] <Floker> _liteinside03: read this: http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kf1.html#h2add
[04:29] <Floker> !!
[04:29] <ubotu> ! is, like, totally, what you add before a sentence to talk to me
[04:29] <kinfo> i don't understand.
[04:29] <Floker> =)
[04:29] <Leshrac> ?repositories
[04:29] <Leshrac> !repositories
[04:29] <ubotu> repositories is, like, at at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[04:29] <_liteinside03> thanks
[04:30] <_liteinside03> anybody got info on installing online games?
[04:30] <Leshrac> what game?
[04:30] <_liteinside03> gunbound? heard about it?
[04:30] <Leshrac> nope, is it windows based?
[04:31] <_liteinside03> yeah, it is...
[04:31] <Leshrac> I play eve-online you might have heard about it
[04:31] <_liteinside03> no
[04:31] <libben> lol
[04:31] <Leshrac> _liteinside03 you best bet is to use cedega to try to get the game working
[04:31] <_liteinside03> but is it working with cedega or wine?
[04:32] <Leshrac> I don't know about that particular game
[04:32] <Leshrac> mine is with cedega
[04:32] <Leshrac> from time to time...
[04:32] <_liteinside03> i still need to learn on how to use wine/cedega
[04:33] <Leshrac> have you got it installed?
[04:33] <_liteinside03> no, not yet... am still browsing the net
[04:33] <_liteinside03> whether i should use cedega (not free though) or wine
[04:33] <monkey89> on kde 3.5, how can I get mounted disk partitions to show up in media:/
[04:34] <Leshrac> you can use the cvs version of cedega
[04:34] <Leshrac> it is free
[04:34] <_liteinside03> ok...
[04:34] <Leshrac> this is the one I use
[04:34] <Leshrac> easiest way to download and compile it: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=45
[04:35] <Leshrac> there's a shell script you can download, it does most of the work automatically
[04:35] <_liteinside03> ok, got it open too..
[04:36] <Leshrac> there's a line that states "for debian users" remember to run that line in your shell before anything
[04:37] <Leshrac> I would paste it here but it's 4 lines long
[04:37] <_liteinside03> okay... am still trying to patch all of this in my brain
[04:38] <Floker> it takes a while but if you get familiar with linux, you'll hate anything else ;)
[04:38] <Floker> thats the reason for the flamewars in linux channnels against the evil empire
[04:39] <dutch> what's the correct to extract a .tar.bz2 file ?
[04:39] <_liteinside03> do i need to download all that's on the list?
[04:40] <Leshrac> dutch: tar xzf
[04:40] <Floker> xzf?
[04:40] <Bambi_BOFH> j
[04:40] <dutch> ty !
[04:40] <Bambi_BOFH> tar xjf file.tar.gz
[04:40] <Bambi_BOFH> v to be verbose
[04:40] <Bambi_BOFH> (list the files)
[04:40] <Floker> what dies the  xjf do?
[04:41] <Leshrac> well, run xzjf just to be sure
[04:41] <Bambi_BOFH> eXtract bzip (thats the j)  File
[04:41] <jatos> hi
[04:41] <Bambi_BOFH> it wont like zj togetherr
[04:41] <Bambi_BOFH> z is for gz files
[04:41] <Bambi_BOFH> iirc
[04:42] <me> hi
[04:42] <Leshrac> _liteinside03: there's an apt line, it will isntall every package needed for the compilation
[04:42] <Bambi_BOFH> hi you
[04:42] <Leshrac> it probably won'tbe mroe than 10mb
[04:42] <jatos> how secure would NFS be, I looking to use to NFS to communicate with a production server
[04:43] <me> tao po
[04:43] <Bambi_BOFH> jatos: it can be very secure
[04:43] <Bambi_BOFH> i have no experiance myself, so i cant help a lot
[04:43] <_liteinside03> where do i get the shell script that does the installation automatically?
[04:43] <Leshrac> jatos, can say for sure, but my teacher says it isn't, not that I trust him much...
[04:43] <_liteinside03> is it on the site you've given me?
[04:44] <jatos> ah
[04:44] <mornfall> Riddell: ping?
[04:44] <Leshrac> http://cvscedega.linux-gamers.net/WineCVS.sh
[04:44] <Leshrac> _liteinside03 that's the script
[04:44] <jatos> I want to sure because I don't want to use NFS on a production server if its going to get the thing hacked
[04:44] <Bambi_BOFH> jatos. tunnel over ssh ;)
[04:45] <Leshrac> it is not much secure in itself, but it should be secure if you added extra security checks
[04:46] <me> how do i change channel in conversation????
[04:46] <Leshrac> type /join
[04:46] <me> in wer?
[04:46] <Leshrac> well /join #youchannel
[04:47] <Leshrac> type it in this same window if you want, it will work wherever you write it
[04:47] <libben> or just /j channelname
[04:47] <zenlunatic> is there any known way to speed up konq loading times??
[04:47] <zenlunatic> i mean page rendering loads
[04:48] <Leshrac> try using firefox
[04:48] <hydrogen> err
[04:48] <hydrogen> konqueror loads faster than firefox
[04:48] <hydrogen> fyi
[04:48] <Leshrac> not on my machine
[04:48] <Bambi_BOFH> disable ipv6?
[04:48] <zenlunatic> hydrogen: not here
[04:48] <Bambi_BOFH> works for FF
[04:48] <liteinside03> leshrac: should i run it straight now on konsole?
[04:49] <hydrogen> firefox has more crap buried in its code than my backyard :/
[04:49] <hydrogen> yes
[04:49] <hydrogen> that made no sense
[04:49] <hydrogen> but firefox is def. slower overall
[04:49] <Leshrac> liteinside03 yes, if you have already isntalled the packages
[04:49] <me> join
[04:50] <Bambi_BOFH> me */* join
[04:50] <Bambi_BOFH>  /join #debian
[04:50] <Bambi_BOFH> etc
[04:50] <me> */* join
[04:50] <Bambi_BOFH> lol. *worries*
[04:50] <hydrogen> ..
[04:50] <hydrogen> me, you cannot be that unintellegent
[04:51] <me> :)
[04:52] <alan> Hi, im getting a problem after i installed mozilla-thunderbird via apt-get, where i get a 'Error occured while processing libgtk2.0-0 (NewVersion1)' error...
[04:52] <alan> anyone else have this problem?
[04:53] <Leshrac> repositories do not seem to be working well lately
[04:53] <Leshrac> it's probably the reason you are getting some problems with apt
[04:53] <alan> great fun...
[04:54] <Bambi_BOFH> the repos should be ok again
[04:54] <liteinside03> am still gonna install firefox, i just got kubuntu working a while ago...
[04:54] <chase> does anyone know how i can for apt-get to reinstall a app and all its config files? i 'acidentitly' delete one and now i cant get it back. Even after removing and installing the package again
[04:54] <liteinside03> i'll see if i will have the same problem you got
[04:54] <chase> reading this back its a really stupid thing to ha done :-(
[04:54] <Leshrac> liteinside03 sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[04:55] <Bambi_BOFH> chase: apt-get --reinstall install packagename
[04:55] <Octane> anyone here know anything about kde 3.5 beta 1 packages
[04:55] <Octane> or aptitude reinstall package
[04:55] <Bambi_BOFH> Octane: look at topic
[04:55] <Octane> Bambi_BOFH: i know but i want amd64 packages
[04:55] <chase> thanks i had trying apt-get reinstall packagename, obviously not paying enought attention again :-(
[04:55] <chase> Bambi_BOFH: ^^
[04:56] <Octane> what's adept
[04:56] <Bambi_BOFH> :o
[04:56] <rio1987> ho problemi con l'audio
[04:56] <liteinside03> how about adding flash plugin?
[04:56] <chase> Bambi_BOFH: it didnt work the config DIR is still empty
[04:56] <rio1987> qualcuno mi puo aiutare?
[04:56] <Leshrac> would apt-get upgrade install the beta version of kde?
[04:56] <zenlunatic> hydrogen one page i just loaded took me counting to 20 on epiphany but 80 on konq
[04:57] <zenlunatic> hydrogen: konq is 4 times slower than gecko
[04:57] <Bambi_BOFH> chase: try 'apt-get --purge remove $package && apt-get install $package'
[04:57] <hydrogen> what page?
[04:57] <Octane> zenlunatic: you use firefox w/ kubuntu?
[04:57] <Riddell> mornfall: hi
[04:57] <alan> it seems my package lists have mangled themselves...
[04:58] <chase> thanks Bambi_BOFH 
[04:58] <hydrogen> plus, konqueror actually hasintellegent caching for going back a page
[04:58] <Bambi_BOFH> did it work chase?
[04:58] <zenlunatic> Octane: no my firefox isn't working since breezy upgrade
[04:59] <zenlunatic> hydrogen: i didn't go back i cleared everything on both browsers than loaded a fresh page
[04:59] <chase> Bambi_BOFH: ye thats it fine thanks :-(
[04:59] <chase> ^ :-)
[04:59] <libben> any dc++ sort of app to linux ?
[04:59] <hydrogen> zenlunatic: okay... however, I have consistently found konqueror faster both loading, and going back
[04:59] <hydrogen> especially going back
[04:59] <me> hi
[05:00] <Bambi_BOFH> chase: :) good
[05:01] <libben> anyone uses dcgui or is there any better app to use ?
[05:01] <tol> tao po?
[05:01] <tol> :)
[05:03] <mornfall> Riddell: hello
[05:04] <mornfall> Riddell: how much of a problem would it be to transition tagcoll to the unstable version? no code changes, just version and packaging stuff... at this point in the release cycle
[05:04] <Riddell> mornfall: yo
[05:05] <mornfall> Riddell: it will go through NEW though, since the binary name changed :'(
[05:05] <Riddell> mornfall: hmm, what's the reason?
[05:05] <_shawn> hi
[05:05] <Bambi_BOFH> hi _shawn
[05:05] <mornfall> Riddell: FTBFS on amd64 and friends
[05:06] <_shawn> I'm trying to install KDE 3.5 Beta 1 and I get this
[05:06] <_shawn> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.4.91-0ubuntu1_all.deb (--unpack):
[05:06] <_shawn>  trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/crystalsvg/32x32/apps/kttsd.png', which is also in package kttsd
[05:06] <mornfall> Riddell: it can be solved without changing names, but you will get out of sync with debian
[05:06] <_shawn> any ideas?
[05:06] <Octane> looks like there was an error with the downloa d_sha
[05:06] <Riddell> mornfall: how can that be fixed by changing the binary name
[05:06] <Octane> _shawn ^
[05:06] <Riddell> _shawn: known problem, dpkg --install --force-overwrites /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.4.91-0ubuntu1_all.deb
[05:07] <mornfall> Riddell: the name change is a side-effect of changing our policy to handle the library
[05:07] <_shawn> where's apt put the files I download? I'm new to debian
[05:08] <mornfall> Riddell: the libtagcoll1 thing was to allow libtagcoll2 to coexist, but it's not going to happen now so we changed the name to plain libtagcoll
[05:08] <Bambi_BOFH> _shawn: riddel told you. 
[05:08] <Bambi_BOFH>  /var/cache/apt/archives/
[05:08] <_shawn> oh
[05:09] <_shawn> my bad
[05:09] <Bambi_BOFH> yes, your very bad ;)
[05:09] <zenlunatic> how come when i load a picture on konq sometimes it looks like there is a yellow transparency on it
[05:09] <mornfall> Riddell: do as you want, but we still need to build the static libs with -fPIC
[05:10] <mornfall> Riddell: you can then either transition to the renamed tagcoll or patch apt-front to use the current state of matters
[05:10] <Riddell> mornfall: tagcoll has built find on amd64
[05:10] <mornfall> Riddell: hmm, thinking of that, yeah, adept should now build too
[05:11] <mornfall> Riddell: ok, nm -- the FTBFS is in packagesearch which isn't in ubuntu i guess
[05:11] <Riddell> ubuntu has an old packagesearch that's not installable
[05:11] <_shawn> dpkg: unknown force/refuse option `overwrites'
[05:11] <_shawn> ?
[05:12] <Riddell> _shawn: --force-overwrite  I think
[05:12] <Riddell> mornfall: I think it's too late for a new packagesearch so easiest to leave things as they are and sync with debian after breezy
[05:13] <mornfall> Riddell: it just means we need to patch libapt-front and adept for ubuntu
[05:13] <_shawn> thanks Riddell
[05:13] <Riddell> mornfall: patch them to keep using libtagcoll1?
[05:13] <mornfall> Riddell: right
[05:14] <mornfall> it's going to mess up things a bit, but not -that- bad
[05:15] <zenlunatic> why do my images have yellow tint in konq?
[05:15] <Riddell> mornfall: what's the plan for a final breezy adept release?
[05:15] <Riddell> zenlunatic: screenshot?
[05:15] <mornfall> Riddell: plan wrt?
[05:15] <mornfall> Riddell: i have 3 outstanding issues for RC
[05:15] <mornfall> Riddell: after that, only *very* critical fixes go in
[05:15] <mornfall> Riddell: RC should be out tomorrow or on tuesday
[05:16] <zenlunatic> Riddell: how do i take a screenshot?
[05:16] <mornfall> zenlunatic: using composite? :)
[05:17] <Riddell> mornfall: tomorrow or tuesday is good
[05:17] <Riddell> a good plan indeed
[05:17] <Riddell> zenlunatic: ksnapshot
[05:17] <mornfall> Riddell: well, i'm sticking to the original schedule
[05:20] <Riddell> mornfall: in which respect?
[05:20] <mornfall> if i get it :)
[05:21] <Riddell> adept kicks arse, I don't see why you wouldn't :)
[05:22] <mornfall> no idea :)
[05:22] <dell500> can someone help me get my dual monitors not display a clone of the current desktop?
[05:23] <Riddell> mornfall: adept appears twice in the k-menu, could you use XDG menus instead of applnk ones?
[05:24] <mornfall> Riddell: i use .desktop?
[05:25] <mornfall> (i only get it once here, too)
[05:25] <mornfall> oh dang
[05:25] <mornfall> twice
[05:26] <mornfall> Riddell: maybe it doesn't like multiple Categories?
[05:26] <mornfall> or... wait
[05:26] <mornfall> maybe it's Makefile.am that's borked
[05:27] <Riddell> mornfall: it's installing into /usr/share/applnk, but it contains the information for XDG /usr/share/application
[05:27] <mornfall> right
[05:27] <Riddell> change the Makefile.am to tell it that it's an XDG menu
[05:28] <mornfall> Riddell: yeah, done
[05:28] <Riddell> mornfall: someone said they were making an icon this weekend, if that doesn't turn up I'd say use the nuvola kpackage.png icon
[05:30] <mornfall> Riddell: ok, it's not the applnk thing that causes the problem
[05:30] <mornfall> Riddell: it's that kde doesn't like Categories very much
[05:30] <mornfall> Riddell: it ends up in *three* submenus
[05:30] <mornfall> (settings, systems and utilities)
[05:37] <mornfall> (given it's HighPriority BreezyGoal...)
[05:41] <Riddell> mornfall: we should ask mvo about findingpackages, I think it's waiting on the launchpad registry stuff, but he's made improvements to gnome-app-install
[05:42] <mornfall> gnome-app-install isn't in debian, heh
[05:43] <mornfall> let's see
[05:43] <gdh> Is 300 context-switches per second on an idle breezy system 'about right' ?
[05:45] <mornfall>    1411807311 CPU context switches
[05:45] <mornfall>  17:49:27 up 6 days, 19:19, 14 users,  load average: 0.83, 0.59, 0.45
[05:45] <gdh> morn: well, just 'vmstat 1' for a few secs.. :)
[05:45] <monkey89> in kde 3.5's kmail, tools -> import messages is greyed out - why?
[05:46] <elektr0smog> hi there! how can i mask the irc ip with a reverse dns?
[05:46] <mornfall> gdh: is that the cs column? i have like 2000 :)
[05:46] <mornfall> (idling)
[05:46] <gdh> mornfall: Ah, OK :) 300 is low then - thanks.
[05:46] <mornfall> but this is running lots of daemons etc, so that may explain
[05:46] <gdh> yeh, poss.
[05:47] <mornfall> Riddell: haha, ImportError: libgtkembedmoz.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:47] <mornfall> Riddell: don't you love when package management works? :)
[05:47] <mornfall> Riddell: (apt-got gnome-app-install)
[05:48] <mornfall> someone with an idea? :)
[05:50] <mornfall> it doesn't work eh
[05:51] <monkey89> no one knows why kmail can't import?
[05:51] <dell500> what's the resolution format for 11xx x whatever??
[05:52] <mornfall> oh... it needs firefox
[05:52] <gdh> dell500: 1152 x 864 ?
[05:52] <gdh> (from memory..)
[05:53] <mornfall> Riddell: uhm, gnome-app-install sucks like that for everyone or is it just me?
[05:53] <dell500> ya, thanks
[05:53] <Riddell> mornfall: the gtkembed problem?  I get that too
[05:53] <mornfall> Riddell: get mozilla or firefox that'll fix
[05:53] <mornfall> Riddell: but the app itself is, ummmmmmmmmmm
[05:55] <mornfall> Riddell: but it's beyond me what it needs mozilla for
[05:56] <mornfall> FFS
[05:57] <lewion> dudes i got a problem
[05:58] <gdh> That much is clear :)
[05:58] <lewion> i just tried upgradin to kde3.5
[05:58] <Riddell> mornfall: what does you "ummm" mean?
[05:58] <lewion> and theres just one thing that doesn't work, kdelibs doesn't install
[05:59] <Riddell> mornfall: he was working on having a more fancy descriptive bit, I guess some of that is still in the code
[05:59] <Riddell> lewion: kttsd icon?
[05:59] <lewion> jup
[05:59] <Riddell> amazing how many people have kttsd installed :)
[05:59] <lewion> that's the problem
[05:59] <mornfall> Riddell: this is a joke, isn't it? http://beleriand.mornfall.net/~mornfall/daft-app-install.png
[06:00] <Riddell> mornfall: no idea what that's all about
[06:00] <mornfall> Riddell: (not to mention it can't remove anything that some metapackage depends on -- i'm wondering why it's listing those apps at all, though)
[06:00] <lewion> what do i have to do ?
[06:01] <mornfall> Riddell: for some reason, installing "dictionary" wants to install "system log" and "floppy formatter"
[06:01] <Riddell> lewion: dpkg --install --forceoverwrite /var/cache...deb
[06:02] <lewion>  dpkg --install --forceoverwrite /var/cache...deb -> those points between cache and deb ?? what are they for
[06:02] <mornfall> Riddell: ahhahaha, it's a package "gnome-utils"
[06:03] <lewion> forceoverwrite is a unknown option
[06:03] <Riddell> mornfall: how ugly
[06:04] <mornfall> Riddell: i guess i can code kde equivalent in an afternoon ;D
[06:04] <lewion> Riddell, SO WHAT NOW?
[06:04] <mornfall> Riddell: (in C++, not python, though)
[06:04] <lewion> Riddell, it's not doing anything
[06:05] <dell500> when adding another monitor to the xorg config, how do i find out the bus id for that monitor, or if it's on the same card, should it be the same/
[06:05] <mornfall> lewion: fill in using common sense
[06:05] <mornfall> lewion: and the lines above
[06:05] <lewion> mornfall, but that forceoverwrite doesn't excist
[06:06] <mornfall> lewion: it's --force-overwrite
[06:07] <lewion> mornfall, plz just say what i have to do
[06:07] <lewion> i'm getting crazy
[06:08] <lewion> Riddell, you know what my problem is so just tell me what todo
[06:08] <Riddell> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuKDE35BetaKnownProblems
[06:08] <lewion> k
[06:08] <Riddell> a page I just made
[06:10] <lewion> really that was just the problem 
[06:10] <lewion> thx dude
[06:10] <hyperactivecrond> define new users
[06:12] <gdh> It uses aritficial intelligence to determine if the person at the keyboard has been using Linux for less than 6 months, and if so, it doesn't let you log in, for fear of you damaging something :)
[06:12] <hyperactivecrond> :{
[06:12] <hyperactivecrond> oops
[06:12] <hyperactivecrond> :P
[06:12] <gdh> (when you add a new user using 'adduser' on the commandline or 'KUser')
[06:12] <hyperactivecrond> ah.
[06:25] <gdh> Does maps.google.com work in Konq from KDE 3.5b ?
[06:26] <gdh> ooh crikey it works in 3.4.2 :)
[06:49] <op> okay i have on board sound and i have an audigy 2 zs when i am in kaffine it will automaticly use the audigy but the rest of the system is using the on board sound and i can't seem to get it to use the audigy is there a way to change that?
[06:50] <gdh> op: Can you disable the onboard sound in the BIOS? 
[06:50] <gdh> That might be the simplest solution...
[06:50] <op> not that i know of
[06:52] <gdh> The solution to this is something to do with adding an 'index=-2' argument to the sound module for your onboard sound card..
[06:52] <gdh> but I don't have 2 sound cards, so have never needed to use this - tehrefore I don't know the details of it...
[06:54] <gdh> ack.
[06:54] <gdh> didn't notice the /part
[07:02] <k-s> there are any showstopper to upgrade to 5.10 just changing /etc/apt/sources.list && apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade 
[07:02] <k-s> ?
[07:02] <gdh> by now it should be quite safe, but as with any moving target, you can always get burnt..
[07:03] <k-s> gdh: already tried this way of upgrade? Or do you use upgrade from livecd?
[07:04] <gdh> I've never used the livecd
[07:05] <k-s> when people plan to release the it officially?
[07:05] <gdh> Oct 10th
[07:05] <k-s> good :-)
[07:05] <libben> anyone has an answer for me? why is my button on my keyboard the one that is left to my BACKSPACE... mouse3 in my quake3 game ?
[07:06] <libben> and why my console key under escape is KP_downarrow?
[07:06] <k-s> there are any {k,}ubuntu repositories that have packages like mplayer/mencoder/transcode?
[07:06] <gdh> multiverse has some, marillat has the rest.
[07:07] <k-s> gdh I had some incompatibilities (versions) trying the marillat repo
[07:07] <gdh> k-s: I can imagine.. :)
[07:18] <kkathman> good day all...if theres anyone about
[07:24] <Tm_T> kkathman: good day indeed :)
[07:24] <kkathman> hey there Tm_T 
[07:24] <kkathman> so have you upgraded to breezy yet?
[07:24] <Tm_T> how are you?
[07:24] <Tm_T> nnot yet
[07:24] <kkathman> I am well, thanks :)
[07:24] <Tm_T> just updating my KDE
[07:24] <Tm_T> to beta
[07:25] <kkathman> I'd like to update, but usually KDE isnt ready
[07:25] <Tm_T> haha
[07:25] <Tm_T> have to say, it's cool
[07:25] <Tm_T> damn good
[07:25] <kkathman> so doing the apt-update and upgrade doesnt usually result well
[07:25] <Tm_T> heh
[07:25] <kkathman> so I guess I will wait
[07:26] <kkathman> I tried to update hoary last night and apparently they have done something weird
[07:26] <Tm_T> like?
[07:26] <Tm_T> aah, http was blocked?
[07:26] <kkathman> I got the list of modules that needed to be updated, but then got repeated errors 
[07:26] <Tm_T> hmm
[07:28] <kkathman> like security ones
[07:28] <kkathman> I forget exactly
[07:28] <kkathman> O
[07:28] <kkathman> I'll try again and see what happens
[07:29] <kkathman> it says it has 75 updates to do, so I click install
[07:29] <kkathman> it at least looks like its downloading today
[07:29] <kkathman> maybe it was temporary?
[07:30] <Orunitia> I wasn't able to update anything at some point last night either
[07:31] <kkathman> hmm might just be that the servers are overloaded what with the breezy updates now available
[07:35] <boogers> looking for some artwork for the new kubuntu forums
[07:35] <boogers> specifically graphics for the header, footer, and notification icons
[07:39] <kkathman> Tm_T: What about this KDE beta you are talking about?
[07:44] <Tm_T> kkathman: topic
[07:44] <Tm_T> like it
[07:44] <Tm_T> many new good features and improvements
[07:44] <Tm_T> kicker is lovely, thanks to aseigo&co
[07:44] <Tm_T> can't hate it
[07:45] <Orunitia> I finally gave kubuntu another chance today and finally like kde better than gnome again
[07:46] <boogers> so artwork anyone?
[07:46] <boogers> specifically graphics for the header, footer, and notification icons
[07:46] <_dustin_> where are the include files stored at
[07:46] <kkathman> so Tm_T does the new KDE come with the apt-upgrade / apt-update when going to breezy?
[07:46] <_dustin_> for gcc
[07:47] <kkathman> or do you have to upgrade, then do a new apt-get?
[07:49] <libben> i have a uninstall script in my armyops folder
[07:49] <libben> but it tells me it cant find a uninstall program when i run it.
[07:56] <Tm_T> kkathman: see topic ;)
[07:59] <Tm_T> later ->
[08:00] <dinolinux> Hi
[08:10] <dinolinux> i need help!
[08:10] <dinolinux> what is the root password set to?
[08:10] <gdh> it isn't . use sudo (and google)
[08:12] <libben> dinolinux: type sudo and_ur_program
[08:12] <dinolinux> it promts me for a password which I don't have!
[08:12] <libben> and type ur user password
[08:12] <libben> there is no root in kubuntu
[08:12] <dinolinux> ahh
[08:12] <libben> there's sudo
[08:24] <Tm_T> =)
[08:24] <Tortel> lol
[08:24] <Tortel> dmwaters- {global notice}  Hi all! this was all my fault, I went to jupe a smaller server, and accidently juped  the hub... I apologize for this, and thank you for using freenode!
[08:24] <Tortel> lOl
[08:24] <Tortel> :P
[08:24] <Tm_T> Tortel: "whooooops"
[08:25] <Necrosan> If I'm going to be doing a new install on a laptop (p2 366mhz, 128mb ram) should i get the 5.10 preview or 5.04?
[08:33] <lewion> wow fuck
[08:33] <lewion> i have serious problems
[08:34] <lewion> kde 3.5 isn't workin --> konquerer doesn't work, kopete doesn't work, kaffeine doesn't work etc etc etc
[08:47] <Blissex> lewion: consider reading http://tinyurl.com/bz8v4 on asking more detailed questions -- "doesn't work" is not very clear.
[08:47] <Blissex> lewion: also, note that KDE 3.5 does not quite exist yet, there is a beta test and installing to it may take some skill.
[08:50] <libben> what do i need to get the GUI installation ? http://www.neowin.net/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t252074.html
[08:50] <libben> cause when i do it i get terminal mode installation
[08:54] <vessuvius> Has anyone had any problems with the 5.10 preview? I'm thinkin of switchin my server from gentoo over to kubuntu today... but I could wait a few more weeks for the official release
[08:56] <libben> what do i need to install to get a graphical kernel compilation?
[08:58] <Boil> Can anyone help me here ... I have a tiny bit of an issue with failsafe mode ... only I'm not sure what it is. A friend of mine installed Kubuntu for me today, but I'm currently using Windows. Situation is: I have a 300GB SATA HDD, and an 80GB IDE HDD. IDE = for kubuntu, SATA = for windows. When I boot computer, default HDD is IDE so that kubuntu can load the thing that asks me what OS to run, windows or kubuntu. I've just plugged everything in, and turned c
[08:58] <Boil> omputer on, and it says "Running in fail safe mode, check bios cmos settings" ... and then it says Del to enter setup, F1 to continue, so I pressed F1 the first time, and it continued, I asked to boot windows, and it basically did nothing, so I restarted, and entered setup the second time, and changed which HDD boots first. Then F10, but it still says booting in failsafe mode, so I pressed F1, and booted windows, and it worked this time ... but what is fails
[08:58] <Boil> afe mode, and how do I solve my problem?
[09:00] <lttropal> Hello, some service is automatically opening konqueror whenever I insert a CD.  How do I disable this?  I'm using Breezy and KDE 3.5, and I believe this feature is seperate from the storage media dialogue they added to KDE 3.5 (which I've already disabled).
[09:15] <MikeStyle> hi everyone...whenever i run wine on a .exe instead of text i get wierd symbols, so i cant really install it.
[09:17] <_jb> Hi
[09:17] <MikeStyle> hi
[09:22] <Noah0504> I'm trying to get an idea of the features in each Gnome and KDE.  I was wondering if you guys could tell me some of your main reasons for using KDE and Kubuntu.
[09:27] <ICXCNIKA> Hello.
[09:34] <mrmarcel> hallo =))
[09:34] <ICXCNIKA> hello.
[09:44] <freemanen> what is different beetween kubuntu 5.04 and 5.10
[09:44] <freemanen> ?
[09:45] <PiRX[lv] > 6 months :)
[09:45] <orace|> everything
[09:45] <orace|> night and day
[09:45] <orace|> 5.10 is the new messiah
[09:45] <orace|> it cures AIDS
[09:45] <orace|> sometimes
[09:46] <freemanen> ?
[09:46] <orace|> I'm just kidding
[09:55] <vessuvius> A list of the improvements is here, freemanen: http://www.ubuntu.com/newsitems/5.10preview
[09:57] <vessuvius> Is there any difference between installing ubuntu and then installing and configuring kde than installing kubuntu?
[09:57] <orace|> a little
[09:57] <vessuvius> what would that be?
[09:57] <sedeki> kubuntu uses kdm instead of gdm for example.
[09:57] <orace|> yeah
[09:57] <orace|> that
[09:58] <sedeki> but there's a package you can apt-get which installs the entire kubuntu system.
[09:59] <sedeki> vessuvius, if it's important, i can look it up for you
[09:59] <Juerd> It's kubuntu-desktop
[09:59] <sedeki> yeah. :)
[09:59] <Juerd> And the standard Gnome desktop is ubuntu-desktop
[09:59] <Juerd> apt-cache show ubuntu-desktop if you want to find out what to remove to get rid of it (removing the package doesn't help, because it's a meta package)
[09:59] <thoreauputic> kubuntu-desktop also gives you the choice between kdm and gdm
[10:00] <Juerd> thoreauputic: So does ubuntu-desktop
[10:00] <Juerd> thoreauputic: Or actually, so do *dm
[10:00] <vessuvius> I'm planning on kubuntu, I just wondered how much of a difference, if any, it was between just installing ubuntu and then kde
[10:00] <vessuvius> curiousity
[10:00] <Juerd> vessuvius: Well, kubuntu is more than just kde
[10:00] <thoreauputic> Juerd: yes, if you install ubuntu-desktop from kubuntu
[10:01] <Juerd> vessuvius: It's kde, some artwork, some settings, and some programs, all bundled together
[10:01] <sedeki> vessuvius, some minor differances
[10:01] <Juerd> vessuvius: Just like ubuntu isn't just gnome
[10:01] <vessuvius> ok.. so like kate or some stuff like that comes along with it
[10:01] <Juerd> vessuvius: Well, kate is part of kde
[10:01] <vessuvius> ya... its a kde based desktop with some of the tools that generally go along with the desktop
[10:01] <Juerd> vessuvius: My advice is to use kubuntu, not plain kde on ubuntu
[10:02] <vessuvius> ok Juerd. thanx
[10:02] <sedeki> i agree with Juerd
[10:02] <Juerd> afk
[10:21] <chx> Kubuntu Breezy and Skype. Anyone running it?
[10:26] <sedeki> chx what about it?
[10:30] <waseem> hi, im trying to set up my wireless network on linux on my laptop. the hard drive is partitioned with Windows and the internet is already set up on that, I was wondering if anyone knew how to make it work on linux
[10:33] <Flying_Eagle> waseem, not with windows...
[10:34] <waseem> flying_eagle: i only mentioned windows to show that my laptop recognizes the wireless connection, but i dont know how to configure it to work on linux
[10:35] <Flying_Eagle> did you read all the doku available for ubuntu, waseem ?
[10:35] <waseem> doku?
[10:35] <Flying_Eagle> do you know how to ask question which can be answered?
[10:36] <Flying_Eagle> waseem, the wiki e.g.
[10:36] <Flying_Eagle> www.ubuntu.com
[10:36] <chx> sedeki: I can't make it work :(
[10:37] <waseem> flying_eagle: there is nothing about wireless configuration on there
[10:38] <waseem> nevermiiind hold on
[10:38] <sedeki> waseem i know a bit about wireless networking on linux.
[10:38] <waseem> sedeki: how do i change the configuration to connect to a different wireless name
[10:38] <sedeki> essid?
[10:39] <waseem> like now its trying to connect to "salahinet"
[10:39] <waseem> and i want it to connect to "wally"
[10:39] <sedeki> iwconfig wlan0 essid wally
[10:39] <waseem> i use eth1 though
[10:39] <waseem> so should it be wlan1?
[10:39] <sedeki> no its commonly wlan0.
[10:40] <sedeki> if eth1 is your wireless, then use eth1.
[10:40] <waseem> ok 
[10:40] <sedeki> you can remap those names.
[10:41] <jrattner1> Are there any "Weather Bug" type things for the KDE panel
[10:41] <jrattner1> so i know what the temperature is
[10:41] <waseem> sedeki: there is no such device for either wlan0 or wlan1
[10:41] <Lichte> jrattner1: there is a kweather applet
[10:41] <jrattner1> Lichte, do i have to download that or does it ship with kubunut
[10:41] <jrattner1> kubuntu
[10:42] <Lichte> jrattner1: it ships with KDE
[10:42] <sedeki> waseem as I said. if eth1 is your wireless, then use eth1: iwconfig eth1 essid wally
[10:42] <jrattner1> Lichte, how do i add it to panel
[10:42] <sedeki> waseem you can show all ethernet interfaces which has wireless extensions with: iwconfig
[10:42] <sedeki> simple.
[10:42] <Lichte> jrattner1: right click anywhere on your panel, then click "add applet"
[10:42] <jrattner1> ok
[10:43] <waseem> sedeki: ok it worked, should i test the internet now?
[10:43] <sedeki> waseem first, do you have a WEP-key? second, you'll need a IP. either static or dynamic through dhcp.
[10:44] <Flying_Eagle> jrattner1, you have to do "sudo apt-get install kweather"
[10:44] <waseem> sedeki: heh i dont know what a WEP-key or how to find out my IP
[10:45] <sedeki> well you should know if your AP is encrypted.
[10:45] <sedeki> at least.
[10:45] <sedeki> AP is short for access point.
[10:46] <waseem> ...
[10:46] <waseem> im unsure
[10:46] <sedeki> well, lets presume your AP is not encrypted and you'll request a dynamic IP.
[10:47] <sedeki> dhclient eth1
[10:47] <jrattner1> Flying_Eagle, how do i make kweather use fahrenheit
[10:48] <Flying_Eagle> sorry, dont know
[10:48] <waseem> sedeki: what should i look for in the output
[10:48] <sedeki> DHCP offer
[10:48] <Lichte> jrattner1: right click on the applet and click configure
[10:48] <jrattner1> Lichte, then what there is no option
[10:49] <waseem> im getting a DHCPDISCOVER 255.255.255.255
[10:49] <waseem> and then it outputs the same line with different interval numbers
[10:49] <sedeki> that's your card trying to discover a IP from "someone out there"
[10:49] <Lichte> jrattner1: ah, you'll probably have to configure your region in KDE
[10:50] <sedeki> waseem try, "iwconfig eth1 key open" and "dhclient eth1", again.
[10:50] <waseem> sedeki: hmm so how can i direct it to wally?
[10:50] <waseem> ok
[10:50] <Lichte> I had to change my measurements to imperial
[10:50] <sedeki> waseem you've already pointed it to "wally".
[10:51] <waseem> sedeki: error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A)
[10:51] <waseem> and it says its an Invalid argument
[10:52] <sedeki> replace "open" with "off".
[10:52] <angel_> hola
[10:52] <angel_> a todos
[10:52] <waseem> sedeki: it worked, but the dhclient outputs the same problem
[10:53] <angel_> alguien habla espaol
[10:53] <sedeki> waseem you probably have an encrypted AP. you should *really* have this kind of info from whoever that runs it.
[10:54] <waseem> sedeki: ok hold on
[10:56] <waseem> sediki: so if its encrypted, what should i do?
[10:56] <waseem> sedeki*
[10:58] <waseem> sedeki: ok its encrypted, i am aware of the password as well
[10:58] <sedeki> is it a textstring or numbers?
[10:58] <waseem> numbers
[10:58] <sedeki> iwconfig eth1 key ####
[10:59] <waseem> sedeki: ok, whats next?
[10:59] <sedeki> then run dhclient eth1 again
[10:59] <chx> sedeki: skype depends on libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3.2);
[11:00] <waseem> sedekI; youre a god, tahnks
[11:00] <chx> and when I tried to sed -i 's/libqt3c102-mt/libqt3-mt/' control
[11:00] <sedeki> waseem np
[11:00] <chx> skype installed but hangs after start. nothing happens :(
[11:00] <waseem> sedeki: any idea how i can extend the renewal rate?
[11:00] <chx> so I am stuck
[11:01] <sedeki> waseem that's controlled by the AP.
[11:01] <waseem> hmm so i cant configure it?
[11:01] <Octane> anyone know about amd64 kde 3.5 packages?
[11:02] <sedeki> waseem you could assign a static IP address, but it isn't nececcary unless something went wrong aka error checking.
[11:02] <waseem> sedeki: oh ok, well i really appreciate the help. thanks again
[11:03] <sedeki> waseem rule number one of wireless networking is dont touch anything if it's working :)
[11:03] <sedeki> in linux anyway.
[11:04] <waseem> sedeki: haha ok i learned that the hard way
[11:04] <sedeki> short, iwconfig is really the only tool you'll need for this.
[11:04] <sedeki> so you should check out the manpages when you've time.
[11:05] <waseem> sedeki: so lets say i got to an internet cafe and i want to connect to their internet
[11:05] <waseem> do i just do, iwconfig wlan0 essid networkname
[11:06] <sedeki> that'll point your wlancard to that essid.
[11:06] <sedeki> aka access point.
[11:07] <sedeki> you'll probably need a key to access the network. without access you can't do anything, not even get a decent IP address.
[11:08] <waseem> hmm so if my internet ever screws up again though
[11:08] <waseem> its just
[11:08] <sedeki> waseem the most common command sequence is "iwconfig wlan0 essid networkname", "iwconfig wlan0 key 0123456789", "dhclient wlan0"
[11:08] <waseem> iwconfig eth1 essid wally
[11:08] <waseem> iwconfig eth1 key blahblah
[11:08] <waseem> and then dhclient eth1
[11:08] <Lichte> I'm using 3.5beta1 and it keeps starting artsd;  in 3.4.x I just turned off all sound stuff and artsd never loaded; how can I tell what is starting up artsd or keep it from starting in 3.5 ??
[11:09] <sedeki> waseem please, check the manpage: "man iwconfig" for further info.
[11:09] <waseem> sedeki: thanks
[11:10] <sedeki> waseem don't forget the IP thing, too.
[11:10] <waseem> sedeki: what do i do in regards to IP?
[11:11] <sedeki> dhclient is for dynamic IP, given to you by the AP.
[11:11] <sedeki> for static IP, it's just normal ifconfig stuff.
[11:13] <sedeki> man iwconfig, man ifconfig.
[11:13] <waseem> k thanks
[11:15] <lpetit> bjr
[11:16] <bobbyd> hi
[11:16] <lpetit> hello body
[11:16] <bobbyd> how do I update to the breezy preview just using apt-get ?
[11:17] <bobbyd> is that possible or do I have to use the CD and reinstall?
[11:18] <sedeki> bobbyd you can use apt
[11:18] <sedeki> nerds are just too lazy for reinstalling.
[11:18] <bobbyd> sedeki, are there instructions that you could point me at?
[11:20] <sedeki> http://www.kubuntu.org/breezy-preview.php
[11:21] <bobbyd> sedeki, yeah, that just has instructions for the CDs
[11:22] <dinolinux> bye chan
[11:23] <sedeki> oh
[11:23] <sedeki> bobbyd i'm not sure, but i bet you'd just have to edit sources.list
[11:25] <bobbyd> sedeki, with the content from the CD?
[11:26] <bobbyd> seaLne, ok thanks
[11:39] <Lichte> I'm using 3.5beta1 and it keeps starting artsd;  in 3.4.x I just turned off all sound stuff and artsd never loaded; how can I tell what is starting up artsd or keep it from starting in 3.5 ??
[11:41] <orace|> you can get kde 3.5 in kubuntu?
[11:41] <orace|> how?
[11:42] <claydoh>  http://kubuntu.org/kde-35beta1.php
[11:43] <claydoh> just have to add the proper repo to your apt sources.list
[11:44] <gdh> Anyone tried transcoding to MPEG1 / MPEG4 with vlc in breezy and got it working?
[11:45] <DrakeSon> is there any gnomemeeting alternative here guys?
[12:00] <theintern> hey all, new to kubuntu today... also made the switch from gnome in debian to kde here... is there a gui front end to opening ports and such (i need to open port 22 and 80)?