[12:00] <thoreauputic> binman180: maybe take a look for differences in /etc/fstab (like exec flags)
[12:00] <hypn0> Khaaaaan, install mplayer
[12:00] <Khaaaaan> I think I am going the Totem-Xine route
[12:02] <steely> i'm thinking of installing ubuntu and have some questions
[12:03] <Khaaaaan> steely, I like that, nothing to do with ubuntu, but chilling in the ubuntu chat channel
[12:03] <linner> http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/2497
[12:04] <linner> could i get some help with the paste i just did?
[12:04] <steely> yeah, i was directed here as if it were a help channel
[12:05] <steely> sorry to upset you
[12:05] <JDahl> steely, it is a help channel
[12:05] <linner> steely: it absolutely IS a help channel
[12:05] <steely> then wtf is khaaaaan talking about?
[12:05] <linner> steely: who knows...
[12:06] <linner> :)
[12:06] <thoreauputic> steely: you took him a bit seriously I think
[12:06] <steely> probably
[12:06] <steely> sorry
[12:06] <amias> how do i fix a Session management error when starting mthtvbackend
[12:06] <thoreauputic> :)
[12:06] <steely> hehe
[12:06] <JDahl> steely, dont worry too much about that; just ask your questions. And in general dont ask permission to ask, or if someone knows something about this or that; just ask
[12:06] <thoreauputic> steely: go ahead and ask questions - someone will answer :)
[12:06] <thoreauputic> if they know, of course !
[12:06] <linner> thoreauputic: could you look at my paste?  http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/2497
[12:07] <thoreauputic> linner: I did
[12:07] <linner> I need some help updating Ubuntu.
[12:07] <steely> damn.  i gotta run.  the gf needs me.  i'll probably return.
[12:07] <steely> thanks so far, tho
[12:07] <rdw200169> i made a gateway in iptables :)
[12:07] <linner> Oh... you didn't know... or I didn't get the message... not sure which :)
[12:07] <thoreauputic> linner: if you hold on I may be able to find something for you
[12:07] <linner> oh okay
[12:07] <linner> sorry wasn't trying to be impatient... :)
[12:08] <Khaaaaan> steely: sorry dude, I was just playin
[12:09] <indypende> why k3b when i upgrade to breezy never burn Audio cd from mp3s?
[12:10] <Khaaaaan> You have to get that extra package
[12:10] <Khaaaaan> its like cdra0 or something
[12:10] <thoreauputic> linner: I think you can safely do  sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite x-common_1.08_all.deb
[12:10] <linner> ok... what does that give me thoreauputic?
[12:11] <thoreauputic> it forces the overwrite dpkg is complaining about
[12:11] <linner> no go...
[12:11] <linner> it won't let me
[12:11] <linner> here I'll paste the results
[12:11] <Khaaaaan> wait
[12:11] <Khaaaaan> paste them in the pastebin
[12:11] <thoreauputic> Khaaaaan: she knows :)
[12:12] <linner> http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/2498
[12:12] <Khaaaaan> OK :)
[12:13] <thoreauputic> linner: cd /var/cache/apt/archives &&  sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite x-common_1.08_all.deb
[12:13] <benkong2> #apache
[12:13] <linner> ok
[12:13] <linner> let me try
[12:13] <zblach> hi
[12:14] <linner> thoreauputic: nope
[12:14] <linner>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[12:14] <linner> Errors were encountered while processing:
[12:14] <linner>  x-common_1.08_all.deb
[12:14] <zblach> any way to burn to a dvd on a windows comp from ubuntu?
[12:15] <thoreauputic> linner: it's really breezy that's frustrating you, not Ubuntu :)
[12:15] <linner> thoreauputic: yes... you're absolutely right.....
[12:15] <linner> was hoping that tritium was active in the channel so I could run my video stuff by him again... :(
[12:16] <thoreauputic> linner: in /var/cache/apt/archives, what does ls x-common*  return, if anything?
[12:16] <linner> let me try..
[12:16] <thoreauputic> linner: with the *
[12:17] <test34> can you create an audio cd from mp3 in nautilus ?
[12:17] <linner> thoreauputic: elley@Linner:/var/cache/apt/archives$ /var/cache/apt/archives ls x-common* bash: /var/cache/apt/archives: is a directory
[12:17] <linner> kelley@Linner:/var/cache/apt/archives$ cd /var/cache/apt/archives ls x-common*
[12:17] <linner> kelley@Linner:/var/cache/apt/archives$
[12:17] <GoRoDeK> anyone else experiencing problems with evolution-2.4 when adding a task to the calendar?
[12:17] <linner> am i considered to be flooding?
[12:17] <linner> GoRoDeK: oh yeah
[12:18] <thoreauputic> linner: no, just run the ls bit :)
[12:18] <linner> i can't add anything!
[12:18] <linner> to tasks or calendar
[12:18] <oneifreak> linner: you probably want: /cdrom//pool/main/x/x-common/x-common_1.08_all.deb          (from your earlier pastebin: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/2497)
[12:18] <GoRoDeK> linner: any workaround?
[12:18] <linner> GoRoDeK: i haven't got one yet...
[12:18] <linner> GoRoDeK: i'm trying to upgrade to breezy right now.. hoping that will fix it
[12:18] <test34>  sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.08_all.deb
[12:18] <vassie> hello, what happened to the screen fading when it asked you for you password (ie when opening synaptic)?, i thought that looked cool
[12:18] <thoreauputic> linner: in the dir you are already in, run   ls x-common*
[12:19] <GoRoDeK> linner: i allready upgraded... no changes :)
[12:19] <linner> GoRoDeK: bummer...
[12:19] <linner> big bummer
[12:19] <linner> ok
[12:19] <linner> thoreauputic: ls: x-common*: No such file or directory
[12:19] <amias> which package provides mythvfrontend , i don't seem to have it ?
[12:20] <amias> am using breezu
[12:20] <thoreauputic> linner: odd, since that is the package it is complaining about
[12:20] <linner> yes... it is odd....
[12:20] <oneifreak> linner: try: sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /cdrom//pool/main/x/x-common/x-common_1.08_all.deb
[12:20] <linner> you know... i think i'm just going to reinstall suse and see if I can figure out the YaST
[12:21] <linner> oneifreak:  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[12:21] <linner> Errors were encountered while processing:
[12:21] <linner>  /cdrom//pool/main/x/x-common/x-common_1.08_all.deb
[12:21] <thoreauputic> linner: did you say you don't have a CD ?
[12:21] <oneifreak> fun
[12:21] <linner> thoreauputic: yes, I do have a CD
[12:21] <thoreauputic> did you put the CD in?
[12:21] <linner> oneifreak: tell me about it...
[12:21] <linner> thoreauputic: yes
[12:21] <linner> take it out?
[12:22] <thoreauputic> no
[12:22] <linner> ok
[12:22] <linner> thoreauputic: i did an apt-get dist-upgrade command
[12:22] <linner> and that's how i came up with the original errors
[12:22] <linner> thoreauputic: i thought it would get the updates from the web
[12:22] <thoreauputic> linner: did you run sudo apt-cdrom add ?
[12:23] <linner> thoreauputic: i used synaptic to do that
[12:23] <linner> should i use the command line?
[12:23] <indypende> someone know a software to get my audio cd cover printed well like ner*-cover on ubuntu?
[12:23] <thoreauputic> linner: what does  ls -l /cdrom  say?
[12:24] <linner> let me check
[12:24] <linner> thoreauputic: lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 11 2005-09-05 13:47 /cdrom -> media/cdrom
[12:25] <ppine> Hello there, anyone want to help me ( newbee ) out with a little problem ? i changed the theme > login manager > background etc ... only after loggin in with the gdm, while booting the default brown background is showing before applying my background   /   color.
[12:25] <thoreauputic> linner: bleh that looks normal - try running  sudo apt-cdrom add and see if you can get it to recognise your CD
[12:25] <linner> ok
[12:26] <linner> thoreauputic: it opened the disc contents folder in front of me
[12:26] <ppine> how do i get it to directly show my style?
[12:27] <thoreauputic> linner: ? that command opened the CD? It should prompt you to put it in and then scan it
[12:27] <Cimmerian> ppine: you want to have a different color during the login sequence?
[12:27] <linner> it did that too
[12:27] <linner> i'm posting the results on pastebin
[12:27] <linner> one sec
[12:27] <linner> http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/2499
[12:28] <linlin> how can i make ubuntu livecd boot text only?
[12:28] <ppine> Cimmerian: that would be nice, but i preffere it would show the background i selected.
[12:28] <Cimmerian> don't think you can have that, at least not in any easy way
[12:28] <dell500> is there a way to get my DVD burner recognized in DVD Decrypter while running wine?? like is there a config file i can edit
[12:28] <thoreauputic> linner: OK that looks right
[12:28] <linner> ok
[12:28] <Cimmerian> i think you can change the background color in the login screen setup
[12:29] <Cimmerian> i know you can change it in gdm.conf
[12:29] <thoreauputic> linner: run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:29] <ppine> yup i did that, i use a complete different gdm
[12:29] <ppine> but thats not the problem
[12:29] <linner> ok
[12:29] <ppine> its after i login and gnome is booting it shows the brown background
[12:29] <Cimmerian> nautilus, the file manager, draws the desktop background
[12:29] <linner> thoreauputic: oh boy...it's doin' something
[12:29] <thoreauputic> :)
[12:29] <ppine> ok thanks , ill search there.
[12:30] <Cimmerian> you wont get your desktop background until nautilus has started
[12:30] <Cimmerian> but at least what i told you will remove the brown
[12:30] <linner> thoreauputic: oh wait... this is what i did last time that gave me the error message in the first place... we'll see if it works now
[12:30] <indypende> someone know a software to get my audio cd cover printed well like ner*-cover on ubuntu?
[12:31] <thoreauputic> linner: these sorts of bugs are being fixed all the time - sometimes just waiting a few hours will be enough
[12:31] <thoreauputic> linner: the pace is rapid
[12:31] <linner> i see
[12:31] <Cimmerian> ppine: did you change the background color in the gdm setup, or did you just change the theme?
[12:31] <linner> thoreauputic: sounds like it!
[12:31] <ppine> Cimmerian: Thanks , i found it
[12:31] <dell500> how do i get a list of things that are already mounted?
[12:31] <ppine> Cimmerian: i changed the theme
[12:31] <linner> thoreauputic: can i run this on my laptop to see if there are any fixes?
[12:32] <ppine> Cimmerian: but i found the setting for the background color for nautilus
[12:32] <thoreauputic> linner: you have all the net sources as well as th CD , right ? For breezy?
[12:32] <linner> thoreauputic: I don't know...
[12:32] <linner> thoreauputic: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/2500
[12:32] <linner> it didn't work
[12:32] <Cimmerian> if i were you, i would change both the background color in the gdm setup and also in nautilus
[12:32] <linner> thoreauputic: i have the CD for sure
[12:32] <thoreauputic> linner: did you change your sources list to breezy?
[12:33] <linner> thoreauputic: i doubt it since i have no idea how to do that
[12:33] <Cimmerian> that should make the transition a little more smooth
[12:33] <thoreauputic> !upgrade2breezy
[12:33] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[12:33] <thoreauputic> linner: ^^^
[12:33] <linner> thoreauputic: i'll go check it out
[12:34] <zenlunatic> im trying to upgrade from hoary to breezy. i added the breezy cd to repository list. i did apt-get dist-upgrade and its still saying it wants to fetch 309megs even though i only have like 5 programs installed other than the base install.
[12:34] <ppine> Cimmerian: ok i will, just to bad it isnt possible to have a default wallpaper that it just loads at startup and then just doesnt interfere .
[12:34] <thoreauputic> linner: you basically change all occurrences of the word hoary to breezy in /etc/apt/sources.list, then do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:35] <Cimmerian> ppine: i know, the gnome login process is being worked on
[12:35] <hortian> hey, I'm wondering if someone might be able to help me set up CUPS
[12:35] <hortian> I'm having some difficulties
[12:35] <Cimmerian> ppine: the goal is to make it much faster and hopefully a lot smoother
[12:36] <nybble> hey, anyone having problems running skype on breezy?
[12:36] <mae> In the latest breezy, are you supposed to have to manually start beagled and best?
[12:36] <Cimmerian> ppine: it should be possible to set the X background even earlier, maybe it could be done through the session startup
[12:36] <dell500> does anyone know how to get wine to recongnize my cdrom?
[12:37] <ppine> Cimmerian: About the faster is it possible to disable the effects while minimizing windows etc ?
[12:37] <Shinydan> hello all
[12:37] <dell500> i don't think it's mounted right in the config or whatever
[12:37] <nybble> hmmm
[12:37] <nybble> i completely forgot about beagle
[12:37] <ppine> Cimmerian: About the speed that is :D
[12:37] <Cimmerian> well, there is a setting in gconf that disables some effects, but it makes stuff look ugly, imho
[12:38] <zenlunatic> why is apt trying to fetch 306 megs of archives when i am trying to upgrade from breezy cd?
[12:38] <ppine> its just the frames you see , when minimizing ,, i think its useless / ugly.
[12:38] <chavo> zenlunatic, comment out everything but the cd
[12:39] <Shinydan> I can't get a desktop to boot from the Ubuntu LiveCD, even when the CD drive it's in is set to Primary Master in the BIOS. Any ideas?
[12:39] <shinu> anyone know how i can get the codecs for h264? the x264-bin is only for encoding it seems...
[12:39] <nybble> shinu: use vlc
[12:39] <dooglus> zenlunatic: your cd is probably too old
[12:39] <Brunellus> is there anyone out there who can help me out with a network problem?
[12:39] <test34> zenlunatic, they might already be outdated on the CD
[12:39] <nybble> shinu: thats what i'm using
[12:39] <shinu> nybble: and h264 works?
[12:40] <nybble> shinu: beautifully
[12:40] <Cimmerian> ppine: yes, but when you move a window after disabling the effects, you also get just the frame
[12:40] <shinu> nybble: doesnt display image here... maybe i got something wrong...
[12:40] <ppine> Cimmerian: And :)    while really booting, the screen where it shows starting services etc... there the brown color is also showing, is it possible to adjust that ? like a different logo for ubuntu and other color in the fonts.
[12:40] <Fallacy> can anyone tell me why java + firefox doesn't seem to be working
[12:40] <henke> Shinydan, is the cd-rom set as a device to boot from in BIOS?
[12:40] <nybble> shinu: have a link to the file your trying?
[12:41] <ppine> Cimmerian: hhmmm, that not the wat indeed.
[12:41] <shinu> nybble: erm.. thats a big file...
[12:41] <PopcornAlchemist> Hi I just installed ubuntu preview, and I have some comments on the network setup in gnome, but I don't know where to post it. Do any have a suggestion!
[12:41] <nybble> hmm....
[12:41] <zenlunatic> dooglus, test34 lol i just downloaded this cd right now
[12:41] <bigjaws> First time on ubuntu... trying to connect to my MS network, but it wants an ID and password... Why is that?  Other MS pc's dont require it...
[12:41] <Cimmerian> ppine: you can enable it in gconf-editor: it's in apps -> metacity -> general -> reduced_resources
[12:41] <Shinydan> henke: set as the only device it could be booted from. all the other options were disabled.
[12:41] <nybble> shinu: hmm....how big?
[12:41] <dooglus> zenlunatic: I downloaded a copy of win98 last week.  what's your point?
[12:41] <zenlunatic> bigjaws, try leaving it blank
[12:41] <Cimmerian> ppine: you can use a different login splash screen
[12:41] <nybble> shinu: i know systm plays fine for me, h264 format
[12:42] <bigjaws> I tried... it wont let me in
[12:42] <zenlunatic> dooglus, um because this is the latest preview release cd
[12:42] <bigjaws> keeps popping up
[12:42] <nybble> shinu and those are quite large files
[12:42] <henke> Shinydan, hmm, odd.
[12:42] <shinu> nybble: 1.4gb but it might not be the problem with h264...
[12:42] <dooglus> zenlunatic: breezy is still being developed.  it's not frozen yet.
[12:42] <zenlunatic> dooglus, damnnit im just going to install fresh from cd
[12:42] <nybble> hmmmmm.
[12:42] <ppine> Cimmerian: that i figured out indeed, its working... but i mean the screen before the login screen. where its shows starting this n that.
[12:43] <dooglus> zenlunatic: language!
[12:43] <Shinydan> henke - that's what _I_ thought. Thankfully it's my mate's machine. My lappy worked first time. *smug*
[12:43] <bigjaws> It sees windows network now, but I go into it and it is empty... rrrrrrr....
[12:43] <chavo> man why didn't that guy listen to me
[12:43] <henke> Shinydan, can it boot from other CD's?
[12:43] <nybble> anyone having problems installing skype on breezy?
[12:43] <dooglus> bigjaws: do you have a firewall enabled?  they can mess up windows network access
[12:44] <bigjaws> I do have it enabled...
[12:44] <Shinydan> not sure. will try from an XP disc tomorrow, given that it's 2345 here...
[12:44] <dooglus> bigjaws: try taking it down.  does that fix it?
[12:44] <bigjaws> Not sure where to turn it off
[12:44] <dooglus> bigjaws: which one?
[12:44] <Cimmerian> ppine: you can't change that yet, at least not in any easy way
[12:44] <bigjaws> Where is the firewall config?
[12:44] <dooglus> bigjaws: which firewall?
[12:45] <Shinydan> ok, thanks gents. Will be back for more later.
[12:45] <bigjaws> No idea.. the one that came with ubuntu I guess
[12:45] <denn_> anyone know if gdesklets is available on apt-get?
[12:45] <bigjaws> I didnt add any other
[12:45] <Cimmerian> ppine: the package is called usplash, and it is very new. it will probably get many more features as it progresses
[12:45] <dooglus> bigjaws: I don't know which that is, sorry.
[12:45] <ppine> Cimmerian: How hard would be hard :) compile and decompile etc ?
[12:45] <Absenth> I don't suppose anyone can point me in the direction of a LPR printing guide for ubuntu?
[12:46] <maci> breezy amd64 lacks in packages :/
[12:46] <shinu> breezy is not stable yet is it?
[12:47] <thoreauputic> shinu: no
[12:47] <maci> nope
[12:47] <shinu> i see
[12:47] <dooglus> shinu: not until 13th Oct.
[12:47] <thoreauputic> shinu:  october 13
[12:47] <maci> they should add guichan to the repos
[12:47] <nybble> shinu: awww, c'mon... its pretty good... but if you dont want bleeding edge
[12:47] <Cimmerian> ppine: i'm not sure, you might have to build a new initrd image with your own graphics and settings
[12:47] <Fallacy> I'm a newbie to linux and I just finished installing ubuntu, can anyone tell me how to get java working with firefox
[12:48] <Fallacy> i'm on amd/i686
[12:48] <shinu> nybble: well... im not so much of an advanced user so i prefer not to... :P
[12:48] <ppine> Cimmerian: Another thing, while i want to stream a movie with Totum over the smb network, it says error, need a plugin... even with a plain mpeg file wich does work when i copy it to local.
[12:48] <shinu> dooglus: where can i find out that kind of information?
[12:48] <maci> ppine: yeah totem doesnt work as well here
[12:48] <maci> no format at all
[12:49] <Cimmerian> ppine: not sure about that one, gnome-vfs trouble maybe?
[12:49] <indypende> Seveas, are you here?
[12:49] <dooglus> shinu: I found it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Linux#Releases - I don't know where it's officially written
[12:49] <nybble> shinu: oh, ok
[12:49] <denn_> i can't compile for some reason
[12:49] <denn_> says i dont have gcc?
[12:49] <Absenth> if I have a netgear router/print server that listens on port 515, should I use the CUPS jetdirect system, with a diffrent port, or is there another method of attaching to the printer?
[12:49] <shinu> dooglus: i see, thanks
[12:49] <ppine> Cimmerian: vfs ? whats that ...
[12:49] <nybble> denn_ : sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:49] <silverton> I realize that ubuntu is different then debian, but I'm getting no help from them, and I know ubuntu and debian are twin brothers...  so, I need some help :P
[12:49] <chavo> denn_, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:49] <shinu> nybble: ive been using linux for about a year and its only been about a few months since i moved to ubuntu
[12:49] <chavo> damn too slow
[12:49] <Cimmerian> virtual file system, makes all sorts of media available to gnome applications
[12:50] <silverton> my ipod won't get detected when I connect it to my computer, but it will when I connect it to another
[12:50] <denn_> thanks
[12:50] <thoreauputic> chavo: make an alias for it ;)
[12:50] <chavo> aha] 
[12:50] <Cimmerian> ideally, you should be able to access all vfs enabled locations as if they were in the local filesystem
[12:50] <shinu> silverton: you using gtkpod?
[12:50] <nybble> shinu: ah, well i've been using it for a few years... but i remember why i took a break, i was using too much "unstable" things and it was crashing more than windows
[12:50] <Cimmerian> doesn't really work that well
[12:50] <shinu> heh
[12:50] <nybble> shinu: so if your not comfortable with the odd downtime, stay stable
[12:51] <nybble> hehe
[12:51] <silverton> shinu, yes, hang on, I'll show you what dmesg gives me
[12:51] <silverton> usb 3-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 65
[12:51] <silverton> usb 3-1: device not accepting address 65, error -71
[12:51] <shinu> silverton: erm... did you follow the faqs? :P
[12:51] <silverton> yes, I found a faq, installed the packages it told me to install
[12:51] <silverton> http://www.togaware.com/linux/survivor/iPod.shtml
[12:51] <silverton> that is the one I used
[12:51] <Cody`> Does anyone here know how to play divX in linux?
[12:51] <shinu> there is one on ubuntu wiki i think
[12:52] <silverton> shinu, what about the error?
[12:52] <thoreauputic> !tell Cody` about codecs
[12:52] <Fallacy> where do .bin's go on Ubuntu?
[12:53] <Cody`> thoreauputic: says nothing about divx
[12:53] <Cody`> been there
[12:53] <Absenth> does anyone have a Netgear print server that they are connecting to from ubuntu?
[12:53] <shinu> silverton: erm... i have no idea ^^' sorry im pretty new in here...
[12:53] <Cody`> having a working mplayer install might help though
[12:53] <Fallacy> =/
[12:53] <silverton> okay :-/
[12:53] <shinu> silverton: tried google? :P
[12:53] <silverton> yes...  didn't find anything relevant
[12:53] <Janboel> Absenth, using cups?
[12:54] <dooglus> Fallacy: what .bin are you talking about?
[12:54] <Janboel> http://aplawrence.com/Linux/netgearcups.html
[12:54] <nybble> Absenth: never heard of it?
[12:54] <Janboel> Absenth, I did.
[12:54] <Fallacy> j2re-1_4_2_05-linux-i586.bin
[12:54] <Janboel> Cody`, you can play DivX with mplayer +win32 codecs
[12:54] <Janboel> Not on the AMD64 version
[12:54] <dooglus> tell Fallacy about java
[12:55] <Fallacy> >?!
[12:55] <Cody`> Janboel I'll try
[12:55] <nybble> hey abseth, janboel: how much was one of those puppies?
[12:55] <dooglus> tell me about java
[12:55] <dooglus> !tell me about java
[12:55] <dooglus> !tell Fallacy about java
[12:55] <thoreauputic> !sunjava
[12:55] <ubotu> For Sun-Java debs add this line to your /etc/apt/sources.list (for hoary) deb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ hoary java  ; or go to seveas.ubuntulinux.nl (for Breezy)
[12:55] <shinu> nybble: maybe when i get another comp ill experiment on that one but i dont like when my only comp crashes in the middle of me doing something 'important' :)
[12:56] <Absenth> Janboel, I'm not sure how exactly to connect to it.
[12:56] <nybble> hmmm, anyone know of a good usb print server?
[12:56] <flodine> do i have to change the repository for breezy
[12:56] <ppine> Cimmerian: When i make a folder with a . like .splashscreens
[12:56] <Absenth> Janboel, If it were a jet direct it would be listening on port 9100, this one listens on 515.
[12:57] <Absenth> Janboel, I attempted to use the jet direct method in cups, but changed the port, but that didn't work :(
[12:57] <ppine> Cimmerian: it isnt visible in the window manager only in the console ... why is this ? and is it adjustable ? i do need it like that.
[12:57] <flodine> anyone using breezy that can help
[12:57] <nybble> flodine: what do you want to do, upgrade?
[12:57] <flodine> yes
[12:57] <nybble> ok, hold on a second
[12:58] <flodine> is there a new reposities i need for breezy
[12:58] <shinu> nybble: i think i know why i cant play my file
[12:58] <nybble> why, shinu?
[12:58] <Cimmerian> ppine: that means the file is hidden in *nix terms
[12:58] <shinu> nybble: it just says: [mpeg4 @ 0x83f003c] header damaged
[12:58] <thoreauputic> ppine: dot files are "invivible" in linux - ctrl-h to see them in the file manager
[12:58] <shinu> nybble: but my friend on windows is playing the file very fine...
[12:59] <Cimmerian> a normal ls in a console should not list it either, you should need ls -a
[12:59] <nybble> flodine: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[12:59] <puff> "swsusp: Resume mismatch: version"
[01:00] <puff> Ubuntu hoary, fresh install.
[01:00] <nybble> shinu: is it playing fine on windows using Quicktime?
[01:00] <Cody`> hmm
[01:00] <Cody`> seg fault on gmplayer :/
[01:00] <ppine> Cimmerian: Thanks, that works, but in a browser in the login screen setup the folder doesnt show , isnt that browser also nautilus ?
[01:00] <Janboel> Absenth, http://www.linuxprinting.org/ should help out.
[01:00] <thoreauputic> ppine: ctrl-h
[01:01] <Cimmerian> if it's an open/save file, it's not nautilus
[01:01] <Absenth> Janboel, danke.
[01:01] <shinu> nybble: i have no idea... my friend used media player classic with some fan codecs
[01:01] <ppine> thoreauputic: yup works in nautilus, but not when i browse for a file.
[01:01] <nybble> shinu: hmmmm, odd....
[01:01] <ppine> thoreauputic: in the login screen setup
[01:01] <ppine> thoreauputic: ill restart it , maybe thats the problem
[01:01] <thoreauputic> ppine: try right click inthe dialog and choose to show hidden files
[01:02] <thoreauputic> no
[01:02] <thoreauputic> ppine: you can see hiden files in the choose dialog too
[01:03] <Cimmerian> ppine: if you know the directory you are seeking, you can type ctrl-l and the type it's name
[01:04] <Cimmerian> e.g. if you are in your home dir in the filechooser and type ctrl-l and then type .splashscreens
[01:04] <ppine> thoreauputic: Thanks, rightclick in dialog didnt do anything, ctrl + l does
[01:04] <sahak> what package in Ubuntu contains advpng programs?
[01:05] <ppine> thoreauputic: Only it says error accesing
[01:05] <thoreauputic> ppine: it should give the optio to show hidden files - you click in the right hand pane
[01:05] <thoreauputic> I'm assuming this is the gnome file chooser...
[01:05] <ppine> thoreauputic: nope, i can click what i want , nuffin happens
[01:05] <Cimmerian> it should, but it doesn't
[01:05] <Cimmerian> just tried it here as well
[01:05] <thoreauputic> hmm
[01:05] <sahak> Which package in Ubuntu contains the advpng program?
[01:06] <Cimmerian> it works in other filechoosers
[01:06] <thoreauputic> breezy?
[01:06] <mjr> what's advpng?
[01:06] <Cimmerian> say, open file in firefox, just not in the login screen setup
[01:06] <ppine> thoreauputic: Access error my bad.
[01:06] <Cimmerian> it is running as root
[01:06] <ppine> thoreauputic: typo
[01:06] <thoreauputic> Cimmerian: firefox uses its own chooser here...
[01:06] <Janboel>  I am trying to get the Hiawatha secure web server configged. Who's got it running?
[01:06] <Cimmerian> it uses the new gtkfilechooser here
[01:06] <Cimmerian> gnome-integration
[01:07] <thoreauputic> ah Ok - mine is older I guess
[01:07] <Cimmerian> just tested other filechoosers as well, the only one it doesn't work with is for the gdm setup
[01:07] <sahak> mjr, it is a png file recompression utility. Usually gives you 10-15% smaller size, than anybody else.
[01:08] <sahak> mjr, without loss of quality
[01:08] <Janboel> sahak, use jpeg2000 lossless mode :)
[01:08] <nybble> anyone used a D-Link DP-311U printserv with ubuntu?
[01:08] <Janboel> nybble, google should!
[01:08] <sahak> Janboel, is it better than advpng?
[01:09] <Janboel> jpeg2000 is the successor to jpeg featuring lossless compression
[01:09] <Janboel> It is in ImageMagick and gimp
[01:09] <Knelix> Okay.. So I'm using Firefox.. close a tab in a window and the whole GUI is now frozen on me... what do I do?
[01:09] <brownie17> who can tell me how to set up KDE so one click doesn't open files it just selects them?
[01:09] <Janboel> tritium, is IS wavelet compression in jpeg2000.
[01:09] <Knelix> (Using GNOME, btw)
[01:09] <denn_> i found apt-get package on some website, but when i type apt-get install gdesklets, it doesn't work
[01:09] <tritium> I know, Janboel
[01:09] <denn_> anyone know how to fix this?
[01:09] <tritium> hence the comment
[01:10] <Xenguy> denn_: start with defining "doesn't work" :-)
[01:10] <Janboel> sahak, see http://www.jpeg2000info.com/
[01:10] <denn_> xenguy, it says it doesnt exist
[01:10] <chrissturm> is there any way to watch a movie fullscreen on my tv out with a radeon?
[01:11] <Xenguy> denn_: maybe it doesn't -- try 'dpkg -l gdesklets' <-- what is the output?
[01:11] <brownie17> [LethAL] , can you give me a hand with KDE? i want to know how to make it not open a file on a single click, but just select it like gnome
[01:11] <sahak> Janboel, I can't find jpeg2000 support in gimp.
[01:11] <j0nas`> im having a little trouble with my intel wireless
[01:11] <[LethAL] > brownie17, It's somewhere in the Control cent[re/er]  but where I have no clue :(
[01:11] <thoreauputic> brownie17: the option is in kcontrol somewhere
[01:11] <j0nas`> can't seem to connect to the network using WEP
[01:12] <brownie17> [LethAL] , BUT CAN IT BE DONE
[01:12] <j0nas`> can anyone lead me in the right direction?
[01:12] <denn_> xenguy, says package not found
[01:12] <[LethAL] > brownie17, Don't shout in the channel
[01:12] <brownie17> thoreauputic, so there is such na otpino?
[01:12] <ppine> thoreauputic: is it also possible to have  the same rights in nautilus as in terminal ?    eg. have write access in /usr/shared
[01:12] <[LethAL] > brownie17, Yes though
[01:12] <thoreauputic> brownie17: you can change to double-click, yes
[01:12] <brownie17> [LethAL] , sorry, caps lock . acciden
[01:13] <thoreauputic> ppine: that isn't a nutilus thing - but you can run gksudo nautilus to get sudo rights
[01:13] <Xenguy> denn_: Did you do 'apt-get update' ?
[01:13] <ppine> thoreauputic: sudo = same as su ?
[01:13] <thoreauputic> ppine: but if you do, be *very* careful - you can break things with a couple of clicks
[01:13] <markhxx> does anyone have any experience with preseeding the installer? I get a message about 'corrupt file', but it validates ok and is definitely present
[01:13] <Xenguy> denn_: and what version of Ubu are you running
[01:13] <Cimmerian> people ask that all the time, there really should be some "edit as root" or "run as root" or something
[01:13] <Xenguy> ?
[01:13] <brownie17> [LethAL] , found it
[01:14] <Xenguy> Cimmerian: sudo -s
[01:14] <thoreauputic> ppine: similar - see wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[01:14] <j0nas`> um... there is? sudo nautilus?
[01:14] <sahak> Janboel, I would still prefer png, since it is more widespread, than jpeg2000
[01:14] <ppine> thoreauputic: yup i will, its only to leave backgrounds splash screen etc in the place they where ment to be.
[01:14] <Cimmerian> i mean in nautilus
[01:14] <brownie17> [LethAL] , how do i change the font size for the terminal?
[01:15] <Cimmerian> i guess one could make some scripts for it
[01:15] <thoreauputic> Cimmerian: there are scripts for that - google nautilus scripts
[01:15] <ppine> thoreauputic: i can just run gksudo now without all windows / proccesses clossing on me ?
[01:15] <zenlunatic> my colony5 powerpc cd won't boot on ibook?
[01:16] <tritium> are you asking, or telling us?
[01:16] <Cimmerian> yes it will
[01:16] <Cimmerian> :P
[01:16] <thoreauputic> ppine: umm - well try alt-F2 and type gksudo nautilus
[01:16] <zenlunatic> um im telling you guys
[01:16] <[LethAL] > brownie17, Either in the terminal menus or the fonts section of kcontrol
[01:16] <thoreauputic> ppine: or run the command from a terminal
[01:17] <markhxx> exactly what happens zenlunatic, does it get as far as the loader?
[01:17] <Cody`> anyone have any ideas why mplayer seg faults on me?
[01:18] <Greensky> does anyone know a link for a sound setup tutorial for ubuntu?
[01:18] <Jacko115> so... did anyone else try to update mozilla firefox and it totally stuffed up their browser?
[01:18] <ppine> thoreauputic:  GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[01:18] <ppine> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[01:18] <Cimmerian> ppine: and nautilus didn't launch?
[01:18] <thoreauputic> ppine: that shouldn't happen with gksudo :(
[01:18] <ppine> it did
[01:18] <Cimmerian> type xhost +localhost in a terminal
[01:18] <markhxx> Cody`:with a particular file, or with everything?
[01:18] <ppine> it did launch
[01:19] <Cimmerian> then you don't need to care about it
[01:19] <flodine> will i have to format my breezy preview when the new one comes out
[01:19] <thoreauputic> Jacko115:  /topic
[01:20] <mmiikkee12> is there a way to install ubuntu without burning a cd?
[01:20] <zenlunatic> markhxx, well i hold down c and it does nothing from cd. cd rom doesn't even make any noises (i can usually hear it when its moving). it gets to screen that says "First Stage Ubuntu Bootstrap" which is normal screen which lets me choose to boot yaboot to get to installed linux or cd. i press c for cdrom and it says "Botting CDROM..." and this blue folder comes up with alternating images of the old mac icon and a question ma
[01:20] <zenlunatic> rk. about 5 seconds it disappears and drops me back into the choose cdrom or yaboot menu (usual menu) and if i press c i just keep getting that image and cdrom makes no noises to indicate its attempting anything
[01:20] <zenlunatic> markhxx, lol does that explain it well?
[01:20] <markhxx> hehe yeah. I mean, I'm wondering if you just have a bad burn
[01:20] <ppine> thoreauputic:  Thx, it works, strange about the error tough
[01:21] <Janboel> mmiikkee12, with vmware you can boot off an ISO.
[01:21] <mmiikkee12> but i'd like to install to a real drive
[01:21] <thoreauputic> ppine: are you using breezy?
[01:21] <ppine> thoreauputic:  is it possible to run nautilis with all rights as default system setting ?
[01:21] <ppine> thoreauputic:  yups
[01:21] <markhxx> but you don't have a cd burner mmiikkee12?
[01:21] <zenlunatic> markhxx, well the cd mounts on nautilus. the md5 of the .iso is correct. i added cd to repositories fine.
[01:21] <mmiikkee12> i do, bt it's broken
[01:21] <Janboel> mmiikkee12, just backup the drive in vmware using dd and put that over your phys. drive.
[01:21] <mmiikkee12> but
[01:21] <thoreauputic> ppine: that's a *really* bad idea (running nautilus with full root rights)
[01:21] <zenlunatic> markhxx, i burned it with 2.10 nautilus
[01:22] <mmiikkee12> ehm...
[01:22] <thoreauputic> ppine: only use it for specific purposes
[01:22] <mmiikkee12> any non-vmware approach?
[01:22] <markhxx> vmware will use real drives too, if i remember
[01:22] <Brunellus> what does it mean SIOCADDRT tells me the network is unreachable?
[01:22] <Janboel> Real drives AND ISO's.
[01:22] <ppine> thoreauputic:  Used to windows ey :)    with al access tweaked as default. not hidden system files etc.
[01:23] <Janboel> Brunellus, it is really telling you the moon is in declination <slaps forehead> :)
[01:23] <thoreauputic> ppine: possibly the error you saw is a breezy bug (actually it was a warning, not an error)
[01:23] <zenlunatic> markhxx, any ideas?
[01:23] <Brunellus> very funny Janboel.
[01:23] <markhxx> Brunellus:Bad IP? What does ifconfig give you?
[01:23] <thoreauputic> ppine: don't turn back to the Dark Side, Luke ;-)
[01:23] <Brunellus> ifconfig gives me 192.168.0.100
[01:23] <Brunellus> which is garbage
[01:23] <Brunellus> I'm trying to connect to a wireless ap/router
[01:23] <Brunellus> which sits at 192.168.2.1
[01:24] <ppine> thoreauputic:  Well, it says auth rejected ... would be kinda stupid to still give access rights when user has no rights :)
[01:24] <zenlunatic> is there a ubuntu powerpc channel?
[01:24] <ppine> thoreauputic:  Haha
[01:24] <Brunellus> I can see the ap when iwlist scan
[01:24] <Flying-Penguin> anyone here use imwheel???
[01:24] <Cimmerian> ppine: it means access to the X server, not access to files etc.
[01:24] <markhxx> zenlunatic:no ideas here, I'm afraid, but it fails so early I wonder if you don't have a boot sector or something. No powerpc experience so I can't really help
[01:24] <ppine> thoreauputic:  X is the renderer for the Gui we see right ?
[01:25] <j0nas`> can somebody help me with wireless connection + WEP?
[01:25] <j0nas`> it simply refuses to work
[01:25] <markhxx> Brunellus:What's the gateway?
[01:25] <Brunellus> gateway?
[01:25] <markhxx> Brunellus:sorry, i mean submask
[01:25] <dooglus> so any ideas on why right-clicking that right-hand panel in gdmsetup doesn't pop up a menu?
[01:25] <thoreauputic> ppine: yes it is the undelying mechanism for the display
[01:25] <Brunellus> 255.255.255.0
[01:25] <narg> What script does one mount swapon commands in for boot reading on Ubuntu/debian?
[01:25] <zxsykco> I'm not sure, I wasn't reading the rest of the problem, but maybe route add default gw 192.168.2.1 might help?
[01:25] <thoreauputic> *underlying
[01:25] <JDahl> is the Breezy preview dated Sep. 8 on the mirror the most recent version?
[01:25] <markhxx> Brunellus:If you switch to 255.255.0.0, can you then ping the 192.168.2 address?
[01:26] <Brunellus> how would I do that?
[01:26] <Jacko115> thoreauputic: I have done the stuff on that site but firefox still doesn't work
[01:26] <ppine> thoreauputic:  Why does it have to authenticate to a service only there for visual ?
[01:26] <mmiikkee12> is there some dos/linux bootdisk app that can run an iso as an executable?
[01:26] <Janboel> narg, if you add the swapfile/drive to fstab it will auto-initiate..
[01:26] <ppine> thoreauputic:  To many questions :)
[01:26] <ppine> thoreauputic:  Just dont know yet how al this works / howto interpret it.
[01:26] <markhxx> Brunellus:ifconfig eth0 netmask 255.255.0.0
[01:26] <thoreauputic> ppine: X is network transparent and is a server
[01:26] <Cimmerian> ppine: X is network transparent, so you can log onto it from all over the place
[01:26] <markhxx> Brunellus:if i remember :)
[01:26] <Cimmerian> ppine: you need some sort of access control in order to keep unwanted logons
[01:27] <thoreauputic> ppine: X can be a weak point in security - hence the auth etc
[01:27] <Cimmerian> away
[01:27] <zenlunatic> how do you burn an iso in nautilus?
[01:27] <dkm> hello - has anyone gotten RealPlayer to work with Ubuntu?  my binary doesn't play any RealMedia files properly
[01:27] <narg> Janboel: thanks :)
[01:27] <Brunellus> well, here's the funny thing
[01:27] <ppine> thoreauputic:  Oh ok, its getting clearly know the rain is .....
[01:27] <narg> dkm: Just use w32codecs and kaffine/mplayer/whatever
[01:27] <Brunellus> I'm running another wireless host on the same network
[01:27] <thoreauputic> ppine: and you can't normally have 2 users accessing X at once on the same display
[01:27] <Brunellus> and it connects to 192.168.2.1 just fine with the netmask at 255.255.255.0
[01:28] <Knelix> How do I get out of a Gnome freeze??
[01:28] <ppine> thoreauputic:  Another thing ? ... streaming a mpeg from smb server doesnt work, copying to local and play does work
[01:28] <markhxx> Brunellus:but the ip of 192.168.2 can't possibly talk to a 192.168.1 address with that netmask
[01:28] <Janboel> zenlunatic, use k3b for iso burning. Most excellent tool.
[01:28] <thoreauputic> ppine: I don't know much about streaming, sorry
[01:28] <zorba64> Knelix: Ctrl + Alt + Backspace
[01:28] <Janboel> Knelix, ctrl-alt-backspace
[01:28] <ppine> thoreauputic:  Haha, would be quite usseles as a fact :)
[01:29] <markhxx> zenlunatic:I use cdrecord, which is of no help. You might need to specify the boot image in your burner
[01:29] <markhxx> ah yeah, k3b, nice :)
[01:29] <Janboel> Zorba64, got an amd64 as well?
[01:29] <ppine> thoreauputic:  the 2 users on 1 screen.
[01:29] <Brunellus> markhxx:  tell it to this host....
[01:29] <zorba64> Janboel: nope...intel32
[01:29] <Brunellus> I can ping the 192.168.2.1 router from here
[01:29] <markhxx> Brunellus: :) and what's the ip of that?
[01:29] <Brunellus> this host?
[01:30] <thoreauputic> ppine: well, root is a user and so when you try to run an X app in your login as root, X has yo do some serious somersaults to oblige you (in fact that is why gksudo exists)
[01:30] <Brunellus> 192.168.2.138
[01:30] <Knelix> zorba64, Janboel: Not working at all. In fact the keyboard seems unresponsive
[01:30] <markhxx> Brunellus:Yes, that's a 2. address
[01:30] <markhxx> Brunellus:So that's fine with the netmask of 255.255.255.0
[01:30] <Janboel> Knelix, I fear a hard reboot coming up...
[01:30] <zorba64> Knelix: oh oh...hard reboot coming up...
[01:30] <ppine> thoreauputic:  What is the best media player for linux/gnome anyway ?
[01:30] <Knelix> zorba64, Janboel:: Although the cursor is responding to the mouse.
[01:30] <ppine> thoreauputic:  Si, that makes sense
[01:31] <thoreauputic> ppine: a matter of flamewars and opinions ;)
[01:31] <Janboel> ppine, vlc and mplayer.
[01:31] <Brunellus> right Janboel.  my problem is the *other* computer, which is trying to pull an IP from the router at 192.168.2.1
[01:31] <Janboel> thoreauputic, not true you *#)*@(#)@*  :) :)
[01:31] <Cimmerian> mplayer + arrow keys = the shit
[01:31] <ppine> thoreauputic:  i know vlc from windows, its good at playing corrupted files etc, dont really like the gui/working of it.
[01:32] <zenlunatic> my computer is acting erratic while burning a cd in nautilus
[01:32] <ppine> thoreauputic:  And totum is just plain crap ? :D
[01:32] <Brunellus> ok.  so after some googling
[01:32] <Brunellus> I'm thinking it might be a route problem
[01:32] <GoRoDeK> ppine: afaik its themable... maybe you can find one that fits your needs
[01:33] <thoreauputic> ppine: well, i think totem-xine is fine, personally - the default totem-gatreamer still has some maturing to do :)
[01:33] <[LethAL] > Brunellus, what's the problem? I had a route problem...
[01:33] <thoreauputic> *gstreamer
[01:33] <markhxx> Brunellus:yes, but it's no route to host because the ip is bad
[01:33] <markhxx> Brunellus:it can't talk to the .2 ip at all, so you get a no route
[01:33] <Brunellus> OK, so how do I get the IP not to be bad?
[01:33] <j0nas`> does anyone have experience configuring wireless networking?
[01:33] <[LethAL] > j0nas`, Ya
[01:33] <j-linux> Whenever I start Ubuntu (Gnome) lately, I get error messages: "show desktop has quit unexpectedly" "show multiple desktops has quit unexpectedly", etc.  I have to push a button to "reload" them.   Any ideas what might be wrong?
[01:33] <j0nas`> i am having trouble with WEP key with intel ipw2200
[01:33] <[LethAL] > j0nas`, Only on one card though
[01:34] <j0nas`> [LethAL]  are you using WEP/
[01:34] <j0nas`> ?
[01:34] <[LethAL] > j0nas`, open or shared/restricted? and what length?
[01:34] <ppine> thoreauputic:  :D al this is really confusing every app using its own stream system etc.    seems so complicated all.
[01:34] <[LethAL] > j0nas`, Yes
[01:34] <Brunellus> I'm not using wep.
[01:34] <j0nas`> 64bit
[01:34] <j0nas`> shared
[01:34] <[LethAL] > 40 bit then
[01:34] <j0nas`> sure
[01:34] <linner> folks what is the terminal command to add multiverse and universe to my repos?
[01:34] <ppine> thoreauputic:  like windows all usses direct x...
[01:34] <j0nas`> i believe they refer to it as either or
[01:34] <ppine> thoreauputic:  works good imho
[01:34] <thoreauputic> ppine: yes, well Free/open software is like that - much confusing choice
[01:35] <j0nas`> [LethAL] : did you simply put your key into network-admin?
[01:35] <[LethAL] > Yeah
[01:35] <j0nas`> and it worked?
[01:35] <j0nas`> it simply refuses to work for me
[01:35] <[LethAL] > I know the terminal way though
[01:35] <ppine> thoreauputic:  Yup i like the idea/concept. use mainly free apps on windows also. but here its just more advanced,
[01:35] <thoreauputic> ppine: sometimes it is good - e.g. one player works better than another for a particular person/hardware
[01:35] <shinu> iMorpheus: what version of vlc do you have?
[01:35] <j0nas`> well i would prefer that way to be honest
[01:35] <shinu> iMorpheus: the one from repos?
[01:35] <zorba64> linner: edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:35] <j0nas`> what do you have in your /etc/network/interfaces file?
[01:36] <linner> thank you zorba
[01:36] <Brunellus> j0nas`, was that directed at me?
[01:36] <[LethAL] > No, I think me
[01:36] <j0nas`> Brunellus: nope
[01:36] <linner> zorba64, that didn't work
[01:36] <thoreauputic> ppine: BTW you might prefer the vlc-gnome UI to the windows or Mac one
[01:37] <ppine> thoreauputic:  Yup, i mean . different software is great, but in windows u have the base, directx as transport etc, and the rest u can adjust the way u like as a programmer, here, a simple media player uses a whole new root system.
[01:37] <zorba64> linner: how didn't it work?
[01:37] <linner> zorba64, i'm getting edit Warning: unknown mime-type for "/etc/apt/sources.list" -- using "application/*"
[01:37] <linner> Error: no "edit" mailcap rules found for type "application/*"
[01:37] <j-linux> linner: I think he means you have to edit that file
[01:37] <linner> j-linux, oh
[01:37] <linner>  crap
[01:37] <iMorpheus> shinu: yea
[01:37] <Brunellus> markhxx are you still here?
[01:37] <zorba64> linner: try this in terminal: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:37] <linner> i'm not sure how to do that
[01:37] <j-linux> linner: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:37] <linner> zorba64, thank you
[01:38] <j-linux> linner:  but I don't know what to add to the file
[01:38] <linner> j-linux, you too
[01:38] <thoreauputic> ppine: there's a selection process - bad stuff eventually disappears (I hope esd will die soon for instance ) :|
[01:38] <linner> !tell linner about repos
[01:38] <zorba64> !repos
[01:38] <ubotu> it has been said that repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[01:39] <j-linux> linner: I was trying to do that yesterday.  I was told to add the word "multiverse" after "universe" wherever it appears.  It didn't work for me though and I'm not sure if I was doing it correctly
[01:39] <ppine> thoreauputic:  and after a couple of years there'l be standards, like the alsa enviroment ?
[01:39] <drummer87> hi all, can anyone help me on choosing a print server compatable with linux?
[01:39] <drummer87> any suggestions?
[01:39] <thoreauputic> ppine: alsa is already standard in 2.6 kernels
[01:39] <zorba64> j-linux: did you remove the # from in front of those lines??
[01:40] <thoreauputic> ppine: most of the trouble is the sound daemons like esound and artsd etc
[01:40] <j-linux> zorba64:  I have one line from Universe uncommented.  The other one is still commented.  Should they both be uncommented?
[01:40] <ppine> thoreauputic:  Kernel speaking: i upgraded ubuntu with the packages it provided for me by default incl. new kernel, only that new kernel doenst boot.
[01:40] <thoreauputic> ppine: and oss emulation is still there for "legacy" purposes
[01:40] <zorba64> j-linux: you dont need the deb-src lines, leave them commented
[01:40] <hortian> hey everyone, I just installed ubuntu 5.04 on a dell lattitude D610 and my wireless connection keeps getting dropped ... it works again when I restart, but it happens rather frequently ... any ideas what might cause this?
[01:41] <ppine> thoreauputic:  what is ment by " legacy: purposes ...  ( sorry, not my native language )
[01:41] <[LethAL] > hortian, I have the same problem with 5.10 and a rt2570 chipset... odd
[01:41] <alge_> Hi...is thee another channel for ppc questions/ problems?
[01:41] <linner> j-linux, sorry aboutthat... I went to the wiki to read
[01:42] <zorba64> j-linux: after amending, run : sudo apt-get update, then try for the software you want
[01:42] <linner> j-linux, i'll see if what the wiki says is true
[01:42] <j-linux> zorba64: just add "multiverse" directly after the word "universe" right?
[01:42] <zorba64> j-linux: yup
[01:42] <j-linux> zorba64: ok... I'll try it again now. thanks.
[01:42] <hortian> [lethal]  do you know any scripts to run to fix the connection without restarting?
[01:43] <linner> zorba64, how do i force quite an app?
[01:43] <linner> i right clicked on the tab and clicked close but it's still there
[01:43] <[LethAL] > hortian, sudo ifup (interface)
[01:43] <linner> oops force quit
[01:43] <LightVision> is Ubuntu 5.10 the latest?
[01:43] <linner> LightVision, yes
[01:43] <kevogod> Go to Applications > System Tools > System Monitor
[01:43] <linner> colony 5 specifically
[01:43] <j-linux> linner: rightclick on the system bar.  Add  "force quit"
[01:43] <LightVision> linner:  and I can get it sent to me for free?
[01:43] <hortian> [lethal]  and that puts it back up for you?
[01:43] <LinuxJones> LightVision, latest "stable version"
[01:44] <[LethAL] > hortian, yeah, or open System, Preferences, Networking and active it thene
[01:44] <LightVision> LinuxJones:  when is the new ubuntu due out?
[01:44] <[LethAL] > there*
[01:44] <j-linux> linner: it's a little icon that lets you shut down any misbehaving programs
[01:44] <[LethAL] > LightVision, Oct 13
[01:44] <linner> LightVision, yes...
[01:44] <ppine> thoreauputic:  Not here to teach english ey :D :D
[01:44] <zorba64> LightVision: Oct 13
[01:44] <linner> LightVision, you have to sign up on the web
[01:44] <linner> LightVision, for the offical install disc
[01:45] <linner> j-linux, i'm sorrry to be so ignorant.. but where is the system bar?
[01:45] <LinuxJones> LightVision, Breezy is fairly stable right now if your feeling like a little adventure :)
[01:45] <LightVision> before I order ubuntu from website, should I wait till Oct 13?  or can I order now and then upgrade that to latest?
[01:45] <LinuxJones> LightVision, are you on dialup ?
[01:45] <linner> j-linux, i've right clicked all over the place and can't see to find "add force quit"
[01:45] <LightVision> dialup yes
[01:45] <j-linux> linner: sorry--I'm not sure if that is the right word.  The place where all your icons go... firefox, etc.
[01:45] <zorba64> linner: add the force quit button to your panel and use that
[01:46] <LinuxJones> LightVision, I would wait personally, it's only a few weeks
[01:46] <j-linux> linner: "add to panel"
[01:46] <j-linux> linner: if you are using Gnome
[01:46] <amias> are there any known bugs or issues with mythtv on breezy ?
[01:46] <linner> zorba64, thank you ... that worked!
[01:46] <LightVision> LinuxJones:  if I get breezy now, can I then upgrade it to the oct 13 edition?
[01:46] <GoRoDeK> anyone here got ubuntu 5.10 running evolution 2.4 without problems? (adding tasks etc)
[01:46] <zorba64> linner: np
[01:46] <linner> j-linux, found it! and yes.. I'm using GNOME
[01:46] <drummer87> noone with any experiences with network print servers??
[01:46] <j-linux> linner:  so the order is -- click on the panel at the top of screen.  Then on "add to panel"
[01:47] <amias> i cant get uk tv listings data
[01:47] <j-linux> linner: nice...  It's a useful tool.  Just click the icon whenever you want to shutdown a program that won't respond.
[01:47] <LinuxJones> LightVision, yes but there will be tons of upgrades by then most likely 200 megs or more :(
[01:47] <linner> oh i'm stoked... thank you :)
[01:47] <LightVision> LinuxJones:  can you upgrade firefox etc?
[01:47] <j-linux> zorba64: It worked this time.  I think last time I forgot the sudo apt-get update part and that is why it didn't work
[01:47] <j-linux> thanks
[01:47] <LightVision> or you need to always wait for the latest release?
[01:48] <ppine> thoreauputic:  Mplayer doesnt show in package manager, i should download it and compile manualy ?
[01:48] <LinuxJones> LightVision, sure you have the option to upgrade selected packages like firefox without upgrading the entire system at once.
[01:48] <zorba64> j-linux: np
[01:48] <ppine> thoreauputic:  or is ubuntu 100% compatible with rpm (redhat) packages?
[01:48] <LightVision> LinuxJones:  ok
[01:49] <linner> hmmm...
[01:50] <linner> j-linux, how come it won't force quite synaptic
[01:50] <linner> or zorba64 ... how come it won't force quit synaptic
[01:51] <zorba64> linner: synaptic runs with sudo priveleges, thype this into a terminal: sudo killall -9 synaptic
[01:51] <gpled> i am not seeing ncurses-devel in synaptic.  is it in there?
[01:51] <linner> j-linux, actually never mind... i answered my own question
[01:51] <linner> sorry :)
[01:51] <linner> zorba64, i'll try that next time if it happens ;)
[01:51] <gpled> need it so make menuconfig will run.
[01:52] <Knelix> How does an AMD 2400+ compare to a 1Ghz. G4?
[01:52] <zenlunatic> is breezy preview the same as breezy colony5?
[01:52] <zorba64> zenlunatic: nope
[01:52] <chavo> zenlunatic, no
[01:52] <zorba64> zenlunatic: colony 5 is newer
[01:52] <Knelix> An AMD Sempron, that is.
[01:53] <zenlunatic> zorba64, i downloaded  http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.10/ubuntu-5.10-preview-install-powerpc.iso is that the same as http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/breezy/colony-5/breezy-install-powerpc.iso
[01:53] <j-linux> linner: sorry I was gone for a minute
[01:53] <linner> j-linux, no worries i answered my own ?
[01:53] <linner> :)
[01:53] <Knelix> Are there any good benchmarks I could run on both PPC and AMD for comparison?
[01:53] <zenlunatic> zorba64, you said the preview iso is older and that one is not working for me
[01:53] <zorba64> zenlunatic: the colony 5 is the newer iso
[01:54] <zenlunatic> zorba64, how can i see if colony 5 works?
[01:54] <zorba64> zenlunatic: you can but try it
[01:54] <crimsun> zenlunatic: use the live cd?
[01:55] <zenlunatic> i was just wondering if colony5 actually boots unlike this preview iso i burned
[01:55] <crimsun> well if it doesn't boot, try in a few days after 9.18 (new kernel) is in the archive
[01:55] <crimsun> I can't possibly know if it boots on your hardware :)
[01:55] <zenlunatic> like would they mention that in changelogs or something
[01:55] <crimsun> yes
[01:56] <zenlunatic> crimsun, well hoary works fine on my hardware but the preview iso doesn't boot when i hold c
[01:57] <ppine> ?
[01:57] <zorba64> zenlunatic: bad burn? bad disk, md5sums dont match?
[01:57] <zenlunatic> zorba64, none of the above my friend
[01:59] <ppine> In Ubuntu the options with services is very small, is this a default selection where the rest is hidden ?
[01:59] <zorba64> crimsun: thats a bitch, might have to stick with Hoary until the final version of breezy comes out, then maybe try it
[01:59] <fmasi> hi I like to know if skype is includad in the ubuntu repositori becouse i dont find it :(
[01:59] <dkm> narg: i need to test some pages with embedded RealPlayer, so mplayer is not the best option for me
[02:00] <amias> thanks gnight
[02:00] <gpled> found it.  it is now call libncurses5-dev
[02:00] <crimsun> fmasi: no, it's not.
[02:01] <fmasi> crimsun, how to instal it then ?
[02:02] <crimsun> fmasi: you download it from their Web site
[02:03] <fmasi> crimsun, the source
[02:03] <zenlunatic> zorba64, nah im apt-get dist-upgrade 'n now
[02:04] <fmasi> crimsun, ther sim to be a deb package i ges i should instal that but how ?
[02:04] <jroes> darn
[02:04] <jroes> anyone know if I can get a really minimal breezy cd somehow?
[02:04] <crimsun> fmasi: dpkg -i
[02:04] <jroes> (like, one that has a base system and I could just install the rest over the internet)
[02:05] <apokryphos> jroes: can go a step better than that :P
[02:05] <jroes> what do you mean?
[02:05] <apokryphos> jroes: /msg ubotu install
[02:05] <fmasi> crimsun, ok thx i will try i never instaled a deb before. only rpm
[02:05] <jiggaWut> oi oi oi oi oi oi oi
[02:05] <jiggaWut> hey
[02:06] <jroes> dang
[02:06] <jroes> I got so happy when I saw "installfromdebiansargecdhowto"
[02:06] <jroes> :P
[02:06] <jiggaWut> how in teh muh fuggin hell do i disable ipv6 on dis piece of shit distro???????
[02:06] <jroes> of course then I found out it was a nonexistent page
[02:06] <_jason> Any clue why my firefox loads pages so slowly?
[02:06] <jroes> but does that mean it's possible to do it though
[02:06] <jiggaWut> lawl
[02:06] <sorush20> shit
[02:07] <apokryphos> damn these bots :/
[02:07] <sorush20> d
[02:08] <jroes> _jason: yeah, go to about:config in your address bar
[02:08] <jroes> there's something in there for ipv6 you can disable
[02:08] <fmasi> How do i instal rp-pppoe in ubuntu i dont find it in the synaptic
[02:08] <jroes> and something else... they're at the ubuntuguide site, but this channel doesnt recommend that site
[02:08] <_jason> jroes:  thanks
[02:09] <_jason> jroes:  that did the trick i think
[02:09] <jroes> awesome, glad it worked for you :)
[02:11] <fmasi> How do i instal rp-pppoe in ubuntu? I dont find it in the synaptic.
[02:17] <ompaul> fmasi, have a look at pppoe
[02:17] <ompaul> fmasi, have a look at pppoeconf even
[02:18] <mattyJ> has anyone used ontv applet before? how do you get a xml file of tv listings
[02:19] <nirz> hi
[02:20] <fmasi> ompaul, pppoeconf is instaled but i like rp-pppoe its nicer to do adsl-start :)
[02:21] <nirz> i would like to stop GDM window to start at the begining and start directly from console, should i del the gdm script from rc2.init folder ?
[02:22] <mattyJ> nirz: are you running breezy or hoary?
[02:22] <nirz> hoary
[02:23] <LinuxJones> nirz, sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[02:23] <nirz> there are diff methods in diff distros ?
[02:23] <mattyJ> nirz: breezy has a gui for that now
[02:23] <shekhar> hello can someone please explain the problem with esd and skype in hoary?
[02:23] <nirz> no GUI
[02:23] <nirz> :D
[02:24] <mattyJ> you could just delete it like you said or move it, i believe
[02:24] <nirz> LinuxJones: can i just del the script , is it going to work for me ?
[02:24] <rib> hi, is this a chat where i might be able to get some help?
[02:24] <nirz> rib:here :)
[02:25] <LightVision> if I order ubuntu CD's from the website, will they be sent to me totally free of charge?
[02:25] <apokryphos> yup
[02:25] <LinuxJones> nirz, that or chmod -x scriptname to remove execution properties on the script
[02:25] <LightVision> apokryphos:  they wont send me an invoice later?
[02:25] <rib> i mean like.. im gonna need some major help
[02:25] <Noah0504> Yes, but be warned it does take awhile.
[02:25] <rib> this is the first time ive ever used linux
[02:25] <ompaul> fmasi, its not in hoary or breezy, I take it you have looked at 'system administration networking' on the meny
[02:25] <LightVision> apokryphos:  no "hidden" charged later if I order ubuntu CD's from the website?
[02:25] <LightVision> apokryphos:  no "hidden" charges later if I order ubuntu CD's from the website?
[02:25] <Noah0504> It took me about 2-3 months for me to get my CDs.
[02:26] <Noah0504> They are FREE.
[02:26] <Noah0504> I don't think you get that, haha.  No hidden charges.
[02:26] <apokryphos> LightVision: got yah the first time :P. Totally free, yes; Canonical has deep pockets :)
[02:26] <LightVision> Noah0504:  wow, and you havent been invoiced for any monies?
[02:26] <ompaul> LightVision, and how could there be?
[02:26] <ompaul> LightVision, and how could there be?
[02:26] <rib> i want to figure out how to get to files that i had stored in windows..
[02:26] <ompaul> woops
[02:26] <ssdd65> can i upgrade to breezy when it comes out without fromating my drives?
[02:26] <Noah0504> No.
[02:26] <Agrajag> yep
[02:26] <LinuxJones> ssdd65, sure
[02:26] <LightVision> im very cautious of anyone offering to send CD for totally free :)  they usually have hidden charges
[02:27] <ompaul> LightVision, read the web site
[02:27] <thellama> why does canonical send out free cds? how do they make money?
[02:27] <Noah0504> Well, you can feel safe ordering them.  There is no catch.
[02:27] <mjr> LightVision, usually, that's true :)
[02:27] <ssdd65> LightVision: i ordered 9 sets and was never charged...
[02:27] <soultaker> hello to all
[02:27] <LightVision> apokryphos:  so you havent been hounded for money or to buy something after they sent you the CD's?
[02:27] <nirz> where i can find a FAQ for upgrading to breezy ?
[02:27] <ompaul> LightVision, this is not shareware, it is not freeware, it is free software, GNU licenced
[02:27] <apokryphos> LightVision: I think you're a little paranoid here :P
[02:27] <Noah0504> They don't make money.  They recieve donatations, and there is also the Ubuntu Fund that was established awhile back.
[02:28] <LightVision> im very paranoid about "freee CD" websites :)
[02:28] <LightVision> whats in it for them?
[02:28] <Quinthius> anyone know how to install from, or even browse, the Source repositories in synaptic? I have them added to my repo's list, but don't see any way to differentiate between binary and source when actually browsing/installing
[02:28] <mattyJ> nirz: Upgrading to breezy? http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[02:28] <mjr> LightVision, good PR and market share
[02:28] <mattyJ> its in the topic
[02:28] <soultaker> anyone can help me with Lexmark X1185 Scanner is no be detect by xsane
[02:28] <ompaul> LightVision, accept it for what it is, good quality Linux
[02:28] <thoreauputic> LightVision: Mark Shuttleworth is a multi-millionnaire
[02:28] <LightVision> OK!  I just pressed OK and requested 5 "free" ubuntu CD's :)  I BETTER not get a bill in the mail :)
[02:28] <Agrajag> LightVision: I got 10
[02:28] <mjr> LightVision, don't worry, I've received two shipments already, no hidden charges :)
[02:28] <Agrajag> they were shipped from the netherlands
[02:29] <LightVision> do you all promise me there is NO hidden charges I will be sent later?
[02:29] <signbarn> I got 11 Ubuntu CDs in the mail recently
[02:29] <Agrajag> YES
[02:29] <thellama> why do you need more than 1 cds?
[02:29] <Agrajag> they are free
[02:29] <LightVision> ok I believe you all :)
[02:29] <thoreauputic> LightVision: stop already
[02:29] <LightVision> now i need to wait :)
[02:29] <fmasi> enny one have instaled skype in ubuntu
[02:29] <Agrajag> thellama: you give the rest to your friends
[02:29] <LightVision> 3 months eh?
[02:29] <Noah0504> LightVision...You're making mad.
[02:29] <thellama> ah
[02:29] <Agrajag> or you have multiple archs
[02:29] <soultaker> anyone can help me with Lexmark X1185 Scanner is no be detect by xsane
[02:29] <signbarn> and I've found that lots of people are curious about Linux and willing to give it a try :-)
[02:29] <Noah0504> Don't ask if you're not going to accept our answer.
[02:29] <soultaker> anyone can help me with Lexmark X1185 Scanner is no be detect by xsane ---->>>> found USB scanner (vendor=0x043d, product=0x007c) at libusb:001:011
[02:29] <Agrajag> I have i386 and x86-64 versions, and a PPC CD if I ever need it
[02:29] <LightVision> Noah0504:  no1 has the power to make you mad, only YOU have power to make yoruself mad
[02:29] <Noah0504> Okay, now you're just pissing me off.
[02:30] <thellama> opera vs firefox: I prefer firefox
[02:30] <thellama> and you?
[02:30] <rib> can anyone help me with how i might get files i had stored in windows to open in linux?
[02:30] <signbarn> rib: windows xp?
[02:30] <soultaker> anyone can help me with Lexmark X1185 Scanner is no be detect by xsane ---->>>> found USB scanner (vendor=0x043d, product=0x007c) at libusb:001:011 any one ??
[02:30] <LightVision> Noah0504:  you think I am concerned about you?  you dont bother me for even 1 second.  I meet miserable people like you every day, and you never bother me!  you are miserable with everyone about evertying!  so go and have a cry, and come back when yoiu grow up :)
[02:30] <thoreauputic> LightVision: #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to discuss stuff that isn't help-related, please
[02:31] <fmasi> some one can tel me how to sucefli do a dpkg -i in skype
[02:31] <LightVision> thoreauputic:  ok :)
[02:31] <rib> no 98
[02:31] <mjr> rib, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[02:31] <LightVision> people like Noah0504 will drive people away from using ubuntu
[02:31] <locomorto> !tell rib about ntfs
[02:31] <mjr> rib, get the winmac_fstab as instructed and run it
[02:31] <signbarn> rib: groovy :-) fat32 works well
[02:32] <rib> fat32 is..?
[02:32] <Quinthius> anyone familiar with using the Source repositories?
[02:32] <thellama> is there anything non-free or even proprietary icluded on an ubuntu cd?
[02:32] <ssdd65> whenever i try to burn a disk i get the error "incorrectly encoded string"...
[02:32] <mjr> thellama, there are some proprietary drivers included, in the restricted portion
[02:32] <Noah0504> Yeah, I sure will...Don't talk to me guys.  You'll suddenly have the urge to stop using Ubuntu.
[02:32] <apokryphos> !components
[02:32] <ubotu> components is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components/document_view
[02:32] <thellama> mjr: still cool
[02:32] <signbarn> the filesystem... not important :-)
[02:33] <soultaker> anyone can help me with Lexmark X1185 Scanner is no be detect by xsane ---->>>> found USB scanner (vendor=0x043d, product=0x007c) at libusb:001:011 I have the printer working but the scanner is not
[02:33] <ompaul> rib, something that some company based in Redmond came up with
[02:33] <thellama> g2g
[02:33] <signbarn> rib: check out the wiki
[02:33] <rib> ok
[02:33] <rib> thanks
[02:33] <rib> to everyone
[02:33] <mjr> thellama, yes; they've kept the proprietary part to a bare minimum (and basically optional, you don't need any of that if you have hardware with free drivers)
[02:33] <Noah0504> I'm getting anxious for the final release of Breezy.
[02:34] <ompaul> Noah0504, why is that?
[02:34] <zenlunatic> is there a way to burn a .iso from command line?
[02:34] <ssdd65> whenever i try to burn a disk i get the error "incorrectly encoded string"... what is it?
[02:34] <ompaul> zenlunatic, yes, which drive is your burner hdd hdc or something else?
[02:34] <mjr> zenlunatic, cdparanoia dev=/dev/hdc foo.iso (assuming your burner is /dev/hdc, which it might or might not be, apply accordingly)
[02:34] <mjr> oops, sorre, cdrecord, not cdparanoia
[02:34] <mjr> brain fart
[02:34] <JDahl> rib, we would all have saved some bandwidth if people had just told you that FAT32 is an old-fashioned "Windows/DOS" filesystem. DOS with long filenames basically
[02:35] <Noah0504> Well, I tried the preview, but I had some errors that made it quite unpleasant...But I think some of the feature are going to be great.
[02:35] <zenlunatic> okay now is there a command line bittorrent client installed?
[02:36] <apokryphos> Noah0504: preview is seriously dated (considering breezy pace); worth trying out is the Colony 5 (see /topic)
[02:36] <Noah0504> Oh, I had no idea Colony 5 was out.
[02:36] <mjr> zenlunatic, see the bittorrent/bittornado package(s), don't recall if it's installed by default
[02:36] <Noah0504> Hmm, I might have to download it tonight.
[02:36] <Quinthius> apokryphos: is there any difference if you've had preview installed and been grabbing all the updates? versus installing a fresh colony 5?
[02:37] <apokryphos> Quinthius: none at all; colonies are just snapshots of the development on ISOs
[02:37] <Quinthius> apokryphos: ok, that's what i thought
[02:37] <ompaul> zenlunatic, you can also do this 'cdrecord -pad -eject dev=/dev/hdc my.iso' for data CDs that you want to boot:: cdparanoia is more audio related
[02:37] <afaik> hey.. I've been having a small problem with video in linux... it runs fine, but every now and then a lot of frames get dropped... is there a way to fix this? Someway to optimize my system?
[02:38] <afaik> I want to hook my laptop up to my HDTV so my friends can watch Final Fantasy VII Advent Children tomorrow night and want to be sure it never skips or gets choppy :)
[02:38] <ompaul> afaik, start the player from the command line and see if it makes any suggestions, usually they do and the suggestions are useful :)
[02:38] <afaik> nice
[02:40] <JDahl> afaik, it can also be that switching movie player helps. mplayer normally performs very well even on old hardware
[02:40] <ompaul> afaik, in fact any program can report all sorts of stuff when started in a terminal, useful little fact to keep in mind,
[02:41] <LinuxJones> afaik, it might be that dma is not enabled on your dvd drive
[02:41] <ompaul> Quinthius, there is one advantage, that is if you end up reisntalling more than likely you have less updates to grab
[02:41] <Quinthius> ompaul: well, obviously hehe. there's also the issue of stale packages leftover from updates and stuff, but i usually try to clean those out
[02:41] <{CyberFreak}> crimsun, plz check pm about sound
[02:41] <svizzero> anyone knows why after inserting the live cd to boot up ubuntu I get only a blank screen and nothing else?
[02:41] <clyrrad> I have followed this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=43065&highlight=kernel many times successfully, but this time when i try to untar the sources package I get this error http://pastebin.ca/23824 can anyone point out what may have changed?
[02:42] <crimsun> {CyberFreak}: don't pm. Did you check whether those mixer elements are unmuted?
[02:42] <GoRoDeK> is it possible to place a few shells directly on the desktop (using gnome)? i didn't found any suitable gdesklet ..
[02:42] <procrastinationn> how do i get mp3 play back
[02:43] <apokryphos> !mp3
[02:43] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[02:43] <{CyberFreak}> crimsun, yes i dont remember the commands you say me
[02:43] <{CyberFreak}> crimsun, i restart my laptop and i lost the settings :(
[02:43] <crimsun> {CyberFreak}: are you using 2.6.12?
[02:43] <apokryphos> {CyberFreak}: keep logs :)
[02:43] <ompaul> Quinthius, which is why it is alway a good idea to >>tar cvf my.iso /var/cache/apt/ ; cdrecord d -pad -eject dev=/dev/hdc my.iso<<:)
[02:43] <{CyberFreak}> crimsun, yes
[02:44] <clyrrad> can anybody help me out?
[02:44] <crimsun> {CyberFreak}: sudo invoke-rc.d alsa force-unload && sudo rm /var/lib/alsa/asound.state && sudo modprobe snd-intel8x0
[02:44] <crimsun> {CyberFreak}: then use alsamixer to unmute, etc.
[02:45] <{CyberFreak}> crimsun, ok
[02:45] <Noah0504> I'm trying to make myself switch to Linux, but I always keep going back to Windows...
[02:45] <locomorto> Naoh0504: why do you go back to windows?
[02:45] <ompaul> Quinthius, there was a d in that line after CDrecord should not be there :-/
[02:46] <Quinthius> ompaul: ahhh ok hehe
[02:46] <signbarn> Probably for gaming.
[02:46] <Noah0504> There are just certain applications I can't move away from.
[02:46] <Quinthius> ompaul: that's just to backup all the downloaded packages i assume?
[02:46] <clyrrad> anyone farmiliar with linux-tree?
[02:46] <apokryphos> Noah0504: like what?
[02:46] <crimsun> {CyberFreak}: _immediately_ after you do that, do: sudo alsactl store
[02:47] <Noah0504> Well, I've decided that iTunes is superior to any media player...Also, for school, I need to use Photoshop and InDesign, both Windows and Mac only.
[02:47] <ompaul> Quinthius, yes, but it has two advantages, one is that you tend to take it when the machine is running well so your restore is just to shove those ones onto the box and away you go - you are in a 'known' good state
[02:47] <zxsykco> I'd be glad to help port some games.
[02:48] <locomorto> Noah0504: amaroK
[02:48] <ompaul> Quinthius, it also makes an assumption about where your burner is :)
[02:48] <afaik> ompaul, amusingly, it isn;t doing it since I ran it from the command line
[02:48] <locomorto> Noah0504: Just use windows for Photoshop and InDesign
[02:48] <afaik> hopefully it does so I can see something
[02:48] <apokryphos> Noah0504: I easily prefer both amarok an djuk to itunes
[02:48] <{CyberFreak}> crimsun, ok i did it and i save the command ...
[02:48] <mattyJ> anyone know about the -vo options for mplayer? what is the best? gl2?
[02:48] <locomorto> Noah0504: And whenever your not going to do homework boot into linux
[02:48] <ompaul> afaik, there are two parts to it
[02:49] <Noah0504> Well, I think I'm going to install Breezy tonight.  Maybe that will begin my switch to using Linux as my main OS.
[02:49] <afaik> LinuxJones, nah, it's a divX file... FFVII still aint out in the us yet :)
[02:49] <nomasteryoda> Noah0504, it's good for sure
[02:49] <ompaul> afaik, the second part has a 'd' in it which should not be there - the other comment is that the drive your burner is may not be hdc which ide connection is it on?
[02:50] <robotgeek> Noah0504: you do realise that breezy is still beta, right?
[02:50] <robotgeek> Noah0504: if you are not comfortable with losing graphic capabilities, and are not sure about how to debug, stay away!
[02:50] <nomasteryoda> robotgeek, it is more stable than the beta suse
[02:50] <afaik> ompaul, my hard drive is hda actuall, and the cd drive is hdc ...its backwards
[02:50] <Quinthius> ompaul: interesting :D .. how would you go about restoring from a cd made that way?
[02:51] <robotgeek> nomasteryoda: that's a different issue, and it may be true. I just don't want anyone getting into trouble, and then saying ubuntu sucks or whatever!
[02:51] <nomasteryoda> robotgeek, true... i certainly see it from that perspective
[02:51] <Noah0504> Yes, I know it's in Beta.
[02:52] <afaik> ompaul, I think it was just services... I shut down apache, mysqld, and postgresql
[02:52] <nomasteryoda> robotgeek, i have had ups and downs with it... Noah0504 I lost network, etc a few times during the past month .... with the constant upgrades
[02:52] <afaik> seems to be runnin very smoothly
[02:52] <Noah0504> Who knows though, I might just install Hoary and wait a couple of weeks for Breezy Final.
[02:52] <nomasteryoda> and video...
[02:52] <nomasteryoda> 2 weeks is enough to wait
[02:52] <Noah0504> Yeah.
[02:52] <robotgeek> Noah0504: oct 13th!
[02:53] <nomasteryoda> a friend of mine really wants his new laptop to have breezy .... but has to wait since it kernel panics on startup... a known bug
[02:53] <Noah0504> I thought it was the 6th.
[02:53] <nomasteryoda> opensuse is released in 5 days
[02:53] <locomorto> oh boo hoo
[02:53] <nomasteryoda> bloated linux for sure
[02:54] <locomorto> lol
[02:54] <Noah0504> haha
[02:54] <nomasteryoda> heya shaoqi_
[02:54] <somashen> hello
[02:54] <nomasteryoda> howdy somashen
[02:54] <shaoqi_> hello :)
[02:54] <locomorto> You cares if it boots 10 seconds faster, its aint have apt-get
[02:54] <ompaul> Quinthius, mount the drive cd to it and 'tar xvf my.tar' that will push the files back to where they belong then cd to /var/cache/apt/ and type "echo * | xargs dpkg -i"
[02:54] <nomasteryoda> locomorto, right... breezy boots faster for me..
[02:55] <nomasteryoda> even Hoary booted faster
[02:55] <somashen> anyone able to offer some guidance to a midlevel noob?
[02:55] <nomasteryoda> ask away somashen
[02:55] <ompaul> Quinthius, if you think the updates would work well then use the update tool to just work it would not have to download however many files you hve there
[02:55] <locomorto> nomasteryoda: I was talking in reference to hoary
[02:55] <nomasteryoda> ah cool
[02:56] <ompaul> somashen, can this noob ask a specific question?
[02:56] <somashen> I'm using breezy, and my internet is dawg slow, much worse than the windoze partition running firefox
[02:56] <nomasteryoda> since suse doesn't use apt-get ... only apt4rpm
[02:56] <locomorto> Besides, who actually reboots there computers all that often?
[02:56] <Quinthius> ompaul: ahh, thanks :D
[02:56] <nomasteryoda> laptop users
[02:56] <locomorto> nomasteryda: but do they have 17000+ packages?
[02:56] <ompaul> Quinthius, or just come here :)
[02:56] <nomasteryoda> LOL
[02:56] <nomasteryoda> right
[02:56] <Quinthius> hehe
[02:57] <ripgut> hi
[02:57] <nomasteryoda> well, for info the hibernate has worked on my laptops..
[02:57] <ripgut> waht does this error mean guys?
[02:57] <ripgut> error while loading shared libraries: libnjb.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:57] <psusi> can someone help me figure out how to customize mkinitramfs to build a new ramfs that runs the dmraid utility during early userspace to regonize and then mount my sata fakeraid as root?
[02:58] <somashen> i looked for the ipv6 thing in /etc/resolv.conf as I found in forums, but it isnt there
[02:59] <ompaul> somashen, is your mail slow?
[03:00] <ompaul> somashen, as you don't seem to be able to interact within a reasonable time read this :: Firefox problems? -> see http://cyphase.homelinux.com/
[03:00] <somashen> i'm not using a mail client yet, it just takes forever to 'looking up...' and a while to 'connecting to ...'
[03:01] <psusi> anyone understand how mkinitramfs works and how to customize it?
[03:01] <ompaul> somashen, are you on dialup ?
[03:01] <denn_> anyone know how/where to get xvid codec for ubuntu?
[03:01] <nomasteryoda> somashen, is your network IP static or DHCP?
[03:02] <pete_> quick question...I've set up sharing on my ubuntu machine, but a windows XP machine (on the same workgroup "WORKGROUP") keeps asking for a username/password, even though I type my regular one. What am I missing?
[03:02] <ompaul> nomasteryoda, I pinged somashen just before my last question and still have not got a reply
[03:02] <LinuxJones> somashen, sounds like you need to disable IPV6 module from being loaded
[03:03] <nomasteryoda> lol
[03:03] <somashen> great how?
[03:03] <sorush20> Hi guys.. I have question is there a way that i can find out which mail server program is good for me..
[03:03] <nomasteryoda> ompaul, i'm guessing it's a DNS issue
[03:03] <somashen> no dsl
[03:03] <LinuxJones> somashen, give me 1 sec to find the file
[03:03] <somashen> dhcp
[03:03] <nomasteryoda> somashen, check your network settings for the DNS entries
[03:03] <Fallacy> is their an official guide for ubuntu and java/firefox?
[03:04] <Fallacy> I'm a big newb and when i googled the subject i couldnt understand the instructions
[03:04] <Fallacy> it was mostly forum posts etc
[03:04] <ompaul> !tell Fallacy about java
[03:04] <nomasteryoda> Fallacy, did you look on the wiki?
[03:05] <nomasteryoda> nn ompaul
[03:05] <somashen> ok found dns entries
[03:05] <Fallacy> i don't remember seeing a wiki :(
[03:05] <nomasteryoda> have 3 of them somashen
[03:05] <shaoqi> hi. how come i cannot add an app as a default app. i get error saying "could not add app to app database". i only encounter this problem with addling vlc only.
[03:05] <somashen> yep they are very nice.
[03:05] <nomasteryoda> try pinging each one of those and note the ping times
[03:05] <Fallacy> I saw that wiki
[03:05] <Fallacy> and it confuses me
[03:06] <Fallacy> this part confuses me, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/howto/helpcenterhowto.2004-10-20.3414506543/ for help on adding the multiverse repository to your apt sources.
[03:06] <nomasteryoda> with the change in support for java, i can understand that
[03:06] <LinuxJones> somashen, in the  /etc/modprobe.d/aliases file change the line to look like this  alias net-pf-10 off #ipv6
[03:06] <LinuxJones>      then next time you boot ipv6 should not appear in lsmod output
[03:06] <ppine> mplayer isnt installable through the add software menu, is this correct ?
[03:06] <nomasteryoda> ppine, did you modify your repositories for apt?
[03:07] <ppine> nomasteryoda: Yups
[03:07] <nomasteryoda> breezy or hoary?
[03:07] <ppine> Breezy
[03:08] <psusi> anyone understand how mkinitramfs works and how to customize it to include a utility that must be run to recognize the device holding the root filesystem?
[03:08] <zenlunatic> how do i find out what /dev/hd my cdrom is?
[03:08] <nomasteryoda> sorry psusi not a clue here,,,
[03:08] <somashen> file edited, do i need to restart?
[03:09] <ppine> nomasteryoda: no clue on mplayer either ?
[03:09] <nomasteryoda> ppine, er, yea i think i know why
[03:09] <nomasteryoda> ppine, it shows up in my synaptic
[03:09] <thoreauputic> zenlunatic:  ls -l /dev/cdrom
[03:09] <venzen> zen, what ide cable is it attached to?
[03:09] <thoreauputic> zenlunatic: at the end  of the line -> hdc for example
[03:09] <ripgut> how do i setup the hotplug and the devfs part when trying to install libnjb-2.0
[03:09] <Strog> It also says in the dmesg
[03:10] <somashen> two addresses ping at about 100ms and the third at about 55ms
[03:10] <Lenhador> why user-mod-linux isn't showed on apt-cache search? but it exists on /poll
[03:11] <nomasteryoda> somashen, is the 3rd at the bottom of that list?
[03:11] <somashen> yes
[03:11] <nomasteryoda> k
[03:11] <Lenhador> here: http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/u/user-mode-linux/
[03:11] <zenlunatic> thoreauputic: thanks im burning breezy colony 5 from cdrecord
[03:11] <ripgut> can someone help me?
[03:12] <somashen> i am using backprots, should I do the remove and install?
[03:12] <ppine> nomasteryoda: Doenst show in Synaptic here.
[03:12] <somashen> that would be, ports
[03:12] <apokryphos> Lenhador: maybe you don't have the respective repository enabled (universe, I believe in this case)
[03:12] <ripgut> anyone?
[03:13] <nomasteryoda> ppine, here... http://rafb.net/paste/results/fLGsy872.html
[03:13] <nomasteryoda> that's my sources.list
[03:13] <nomasteryoda> compare
[03:13] <whyameye> I don't understand the network stuff in Gnome. Where would I put the password info when choosing a network server?
[03:13] <Lenhador> apokryphos: deb http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted universe multiverse # yes, I've
[03:14] <apokryphos> Lenhador: aptitude update && apt-cache search user-mode-linux, then?
[03:14] <Lenhador> apokryphos: but I'm using hoary backports too
[03:14] <apokryphos> make sure you don't get any errors in the update
[03:15] <apokryphos> Lenhador: a bad idea in many respects, but it wouldn't produce the error of not showing things on the cache search
[03:15] <ripgut> AYNONE?
[03:15] <venzen> anyone find both firefox and mozilla-firefox conflicting in hoary upgrade?
[03:15] <crimsun> venzen: you aren't using backports, are you?
[03:15] <apokryphos> ripgut: no need to shout and/or repeat. If someone is able/willing to help, they will
[03:16] <venzen> crimsun, i'm checking...
[03:16] <ripgut> yea, thats true, sorry
[03:16] <durt> thats what opera is for venzen
[03:16] <Lenhador> apokryphos: what is a bad idea?
[03:16] <nomasteryoda> ripgut, maybe some people are googling the answer for you....
[03:16] <ripgut> yea
[03:16] <apokryphos> Lenhador: having backports; has produced us hassles in here ;-)
[03:17] <ripgut> well, im trying to follow the steps in this link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=33040
[03:17] <ripgut> and, well i got libnjb unpacked
[03:17] <sorush20> how do I get thunderbird to scan for viruses....
[03:17] <Lenhador> apokryphos: I'm using the tree "hoary-backports", but, I'll remove it now
[03:17] <ripgut> but im getting an error when trying to configure it
[03:17] <afaik> heh... I followed the suggestion to start xine from the terminal and see what suggestions it may make for optimizations... it never got jerky :)
[03:18] <ripgut> so that guide says i need to install hotplug and devfs parts, but i dotn know how
[03:18] <venzen> crimzun, ok backports was in sources.list - now disabled... waiting for apt-cacher to reload... (yawn!)
[03:19] <Noah0504> So there is something I always wondered about the terminal...Can you multitask?
[03:19] <crimsun> venzen: yeah, it's a known issue if you use backports. i.e., silly you.
[03:19] <D1> does anyone use a scanner with ubuntu here?
[03:19] <D1> just currious as to whats the best resolution to scan pictures.
[03:19] <BigIslandVegan> does anyone know where I might find a listing of laptop / notebook computers that are best supported in Ubuntu, including wi-fi, bluetooth, etc?\
[03:20] <D1> yeah
[03:20] <D1> hold on
[03:20] <D1> lemmie see if I can get the link
[03:20] <venzen> crimsun, silly me... will report the outcome just now.
[03:20] <D1> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops
[03:20] <Lenhador> apokryphos: done! but... the package isn't showed on apt-get, apt-cache, etc... where is the problem?
[03:20] <D1> there ya go.
[03:20] <BigIslandVegan> thanks D1 :-)
[03:20] <apokryphos> Lenhador: can you double-check that apt-get update produces no errors?
[03:20] <D1> I'm using an acer aspire 3000 runs well except battery is a bit flaky but hacking the dsdt works.
[03:21] <D1> you're welcome.
[03:21] <D1> I dont recommend the laptop because it has a crappy battery I had to replace.
[03:21] <apokryphos> Lenhador: and make sure that there's a Universe...hit! (type-thing :P)
[03:21] <D1> besides, get something with a brightview screen nowadays.
[03:21] <venzen> btw, crimsun, you or anyone ever use apt-cacher - it seems fundamentally flawed...
[03:21] <crimsun> venzen: no
[03:21] <Lenhador> apokryphos: none! I'm using main, restricted, universe and multiverse
[03:22] <Lenhador> apokryphos: aptitude update runs ok.
[03:22] <D1> I can't wait for breezy!
[03:22] <durt> haha - i accidentally turned my computer off
[03:22] <D1> its gonna totally kickass.
[03:22] <apokryphos> Lenhador: and you get the hit on Universe?
[03:22] <apokryphos> or ign
[03:22] <BigIslandVegan> brightview screen is what?
[03:22] <D1> its like a glossy screen that gives you a brighter picture
[03:22] <D1> sorta kinda.
[03:23] <D1> I like it better than my regular XGA screen.
[03:23] <D1> but either way, breezy runs great on my laptop.
[03:23] <BigIslandVegan> ok, is it a tm / copyright of some company or is it a technology or what?
[03:23] <Lenhador> apecat: http://br.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe Packages
[03:23] <D1> they use different names
[03:23] <Lenhador> apokryphos: hit!
[03:23] <D1> brightview britescreen, durabright, whatever.
[03:23] <apokryphos> weird
[03:23] <Lenhador> apecat: sorry, it was to apokryphos
[03:24] <apokryphos> Lenhador: you don't see it in synaptic, too?
[03:24] <BigIslandVegan> i know that durabright is a name used for inkjet inks, maybe it's canon or epson that uses that name for their inks
[03:25] <zenlunatic> cdrecord keeps giving me an error
[03:25] <D1> not durabright, I just couldn't think of any other similar names. hehe
[03:25] <D1> BigIslandVegan, do you have a laptop already?
[03:25] <Lenhador> apokryphos: too... before I remove hoary-backports from sources.list, was showed only "user-mod-linux-doc"... but now nothing
[03:25] <venzen> crimsun, ok no change in conflict with backports removed - i'm reloading synaptic...
[03:25] <BigIslandVegan> yes, but my student govt wants to buy some laptops and I want to find something that is *very* Ubuntu friendly
[03:25] <crimsun> venzen: you have to purge mozilla-firefox* and firefox* first
[03:26] <crimsun> venzen: then install firefox
[03:26] <D1> ah I see.
[03:26] <zenlunatic> how can you avoid errors in cdrecord?
[03:26] <apokryphos> Lenhador: you do realise it's user-*mode*-linux, right?
[03:26] <D1> well, HP supposedly had something going with ubuntu about compatibility, but not all HPs are hardware compatible.
[03:26] <dkm> hello - has anyone gotten RealPlayer to work with Ubuntu?  my binary doesn't play any RealMedia files properly
[03:26] <D1> nope sorry, I use xine to play .ra
[03:27] <apokryphos> Lenhador: er, oh wait, user-mode-linux-doc is the only package like that in there... there is indeed no plain user-mode-linux
[03:27] <apokryphos> (and that one is in Universe, just checked)
[03:27] <BigIslandVegan> hmm, it would be nice to find something without a compromise...a laptop that is fully functional in ubuntu...maybe I'll find it in the list you provided
[03:27] <ppine> nomasteryoda: Not found ....
[03:27] <ppine> nomasteryoda: Nm
[03:27] <mattlacey> dkm, i've had realplayer work fine for me
[03:28] <Lenhador> apokryphos: but... what is it? http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/u/user-mode-linux/
[03:28] <ripgut> if anyone can help me, this is where i am at currently regarding my situation, thanks
[03:28] <ripgut> http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showforum=30
[03:28] <nomasteryoda> ppine, what wasn't found?
[03:29] <nomasteryoda> in synaptic ... ok
[03:29] <nomasteryoda> did you do the apt-get update?
[03:29] <zorba64> dkm: make sure libstdc++5 is installed...i believe it requires it
[03:29] <Lenhador> apokryphos: the package is on it, but it isn't showed on index?
[03:30] <ripgut> sorry, bad link, here is the correct one,...
[03:30] <ripgut> http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=376749
[03:30] <apokryphos> Lenhador: you do realise that you're looking at pool there?
[03:31] <Lenhador> apokryphos: hmn... yeah, but, pool is another tree? :P
[03:31] <Lenhador> apokryphos: is pool another tree?
[03:32] <apokryphos> Lenhador: I don't think that's for you (you're not hoary), but I don't know... it doesn't seem to be on breezy neither :/
[03:32] <nomasteryoda> ppine, any luck?
[03:32] <apokryphos> ack, I've gotta shoot off now
[03:32] <apokryphos> Lenhador: sorry about that; I'll try to help later if I can
[03:33] <nybble> hey guys, anyone know of some good linux-based video editing software?
[03:33] <Lenhador> apokryphos: what is "breezy"?
[03:33] <apokryphos> Lenhador: if you really wanna try the package, go to packages.ubuntu.com and grab it from there (then dpkg -i  it)
[03:33] <apokryphos> !breezy
[03:33] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[03:33] <somashen> thanks all!
[03:33] <apokryphos> next version of ubuntu
[03:34] <Lenhador> apokryphos: like sid on debian?
[03:34] <Lenhador> =/
[03:34] <venzen> hiya samba
[03:35] <ppine> nomasteryoda: Nope, mplayer isnt showing
[03:35] <nomasteryoda> ppine, try this
[03:35] <ppine> nomasteryoda: And i never compiled from source behore ...
[03:35] <nomasteryoda> apt-cache search Mplayer
[03:35] <nomasteryoda> ppine, you don't need to
[03:35] <nomasteryoda> i have not done that in about 2 years
[03:35] <nomasteryoda> well, some things but stuff like mplayer is there
[03:36] <nybble> so anyone know any good linux video editors
[03:36] <nybble> ?
[03:36] <rubem> how can I install de mp3 codecs?
[03:36] <mattlacey> nybble: kino?
[03:36] <rubem> de = the
[03:36] <nybble> hmmm
[03:36] <nybble> *tries*
[03:36] <ppine> nomasteryoda: nope, doenst show ... it does show a kernel driver for matrox cards, but not what im looking for :)
[03:36] <thoreauputic> !tell rubem about mp3
[03:36] <nomasteryoda> ppine, just sec
[03:36] <zorba64> !mp3
[03:36] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[03:37] <_jason> does anyone here use latex?
[03:38] <shaoqi> hi. how come i cannot add an app as a default app. i get error saying "could not add app to app database". i only encounter this problem with addling vlc only.
[03:38] <nomasteryoda> ppine, do this.... less /etc/apt/sources.list | grep restricted
[03:38] <nybble> thx mattlacey
[03:38] <nomasteryoda> how many lines do you have that are without the # sign?
[03:38] <crimsun> shaoqi: no mime handlers registered for vlc. Feel free to file a bug for it, and we'll work on it.
[03:39] <mattlacey> nybble: np
[03:39] <crimsun> shaoqi: launchpad.net/malone
[03:39] <durt> _jason, well ive dabbled with texmacs...
[03:39] <rubem> does anyone know where can I get the mp3 codecs?
[03:39] <shaoqi> crimsun, i see. thanks alot
[03:39] <thoreauputic> rubem: read your private messages
[03:39] <zorba64> rubem: read here :http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:40] <zone17> Hi, I haven't been online a couple of days. Just did a apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade, getting update mozilla-firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb - but the package breaks!? Why is that?
[03:40] <ppine> nomasteryoda: deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Preview i386 (20050908)] / breezy main restricted
[03:40] <thoreauputic> rubem: ubotu seb nt you the URL
[03:40] <rubem> apt-get install k3b-mp3???
[03:40] <ppine> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted
[03:40] <ppine> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted
[03:40] <ppine> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted
[03:40] <ppine> oops
[03:40] <ppine> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted
[03:40] <ppine> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted
[03:40] <ppine> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy main restricted universe
[03:40] <rubem> it did not found
[03:40] <zone17> ppine, use nopaste!!
[03:40] <thoreauputic> ppine: please don't pste like that here
[03:40] <nomasteryoda> ppine, well next time paste into #flood
[03:40] <_jason> durt: just looking for a recommendation... I've read about using Tetex and auctex with emacs.  Recommend anything?
[03:41] <nomasteryoda> or rafb.net
[03:41] <rubem> i tried apt-get install k3b-mp3 but did not found the packet
[03:41] <Xenguy> _jason: are you an emacs guy?
[03:41] <rubem> package ***
[03:41] <ppine> apt-get install mplayer
[03:41] <ppine> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[03:41] <nomasteryoda> ppine, does apt-get throw any errors when you do update?
[03:41] <_jason> Xenguy: i like, I don't know if I'd call myself an emacs guy though
[03:41] <nomasteryoda> ppine, you have synaptic open
[03:41] <ppine> yup
[03:41] <rubem> ppine try sudo apt-get install mplayer
[03:42] <nomasteryoda> ppine, close it
[03:42] <thoreauputic> ppine: sudo apt-get install
[03:42] <ppine> while synaptic = open ?
[03:42] <nomasteryoda> close synaptic
[03:42] <venzen> close it
[03:42] <shaoqi> how come the icon for the app i just install does not appear until i reboot? any way to solve this?
[03:42] <Xenguy> _jason: if you like emacs, then auctex is a popular tool I'm told (anecdotal since I am more into vim :-)
[03:42] <thoreauputic> nomasteryoda: no this is the "you aren't root" error :)
[03:42] <venzen> normal behaviour
[03:42] <nomasteryoda> ppine, then do this... sudo apt-get install Mplayer
[03:42] <nomasteryoda> k
[03:42] <rubem> how can i get the mp3 codecs???? no one give me a direct answer
[03:42] <ppine> sudo apt-het install mplayer
[03:42] <_jason> shaoqi: kill gnome-panel restarts your panel
[03:42] <_jason> shaoqi: killall gnome-panel restarts your panel
[03:42] <nomasteryoda> ppine, make sure to use the Capital M
[03:42] <ppine> morron :) using irssi
[03:43] <rubem> the link says to me to download k3b-mp3
[03:43] <venzen> which playr, rubem?
[03:43] <rubem> but apt-get did not found de package
[03:43] <rubem> xmms
[03:43] <zorba64> rubem: do you have universe enabled in your sources.list???
[03:43] <shaoqi> _jason, that's always the case? a bug with gnome panel?
[03:43] <ppine> ok, it cant find the package it says
[03:43] <rubem> sorry, what do you mean zorba64
[03:43] <rubem> ?
[03:43] <_jason> Xenguy: what could I use with vim?
[03:43] <dkm> zorba64: thx for the tip
[03:43] <venzen> rubem, search for 'xmms' in synaptic and find codec in list...
[03:43] <Xenguy> _jason: latexsuite
[03:43] <zorba64> dkm: np
[03:44] <_jason> shaoqi: I don't kno.  I'm fairly new, thats what I know works
[03:44] <ppine> nomasteryoda: i did use M
[03:44] <_jason> Xenguy: alright I
[03:44] <shaoqi> _jason, ok thanks.. :)
[03:44] <thoreauputic> rubem: xmms is in main and doesn't require the package you are trying to install
[03:44] <_jason> Xenguy: alright I'll compare the two and see what happens
[03:44] <nomasteryoda> ppine, search for it... sudo apt-cache search player
[03:44] <thoreauputic> !info xmms
[03:44] <ubotu> xmms: (Versatile X audio player that looks like Winamp), section sound, is optional. Version: 1.2.10-2ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1917 kB, Installed size: 5988 kB
[03:45] <rubem> when I tried to run a mp3 in xmms, the program crashed
[03:45] <zorba64> rubem: go read :https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto then :https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:45] <rubem> (I thougth programs did not crash in linux :P)
[03:45] <thoreauputic> rubem:  options - prefs - output plugin >> esound
[03:46] <thoreauputic> in xmms
[03:46] <ppine> nomasteryoda: a whole long list, but Mplayer isnt there.
[03:46] <rubem> uh
[03:46] <shaoqi> _jason, then how can i add apps to the panel under "applications"?
[03:46] <rubem> my xmms is in portuguese :(
[03:46] <trix> how to install java?
[03:46] <zorba64> !java
[03:46] <ubotu> To install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java or, for Sun's Java, ask me about !sunjava
[03:46] <rubem> trix, download at Sun site
[03:46] <zorba64> !sunjava
[03:46] <_jason> shaoqi: I use smeg, its a package you can isntall
[03:46] <ubotu> For Sun-Java debs add this line to your /etc/apt/sources.list (for hoary) deb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ hoary java  ; or go to seveas.ubuntulinux.nl (for Breezy)
[03:46] <ppine> Ruben: xmms did install here using synaptec
[03:46] <Xenguy> _jason: sorry, the package is vim-latexsuite
[03:46] <_jason> Xenguy: thanks
[03:47] <rubem> i instaled xmms
[03:47] <shekhar> hello i need some help with a few things
[03:47] <thoreauputic> rubem: well, look for the output plugin - or ask what it is in #ubuntu-pt :)
[03:47] <Xenguy> _jason: yw
[03:47] <rubem> but it crashes when i played a mp3
[03:47] <theblue> Hi all.
[03:47] <zorba64> shekhar: one thing at a time...go right ahead
[03:47] <theblue> How do I add something into my PATH?
[03:47] <ppine> weird, cant help u on that, new to this .
[03:47] <thoreauputic> rubem: I told you the solution - but I don't know it in portuguese :)
[03:47] <shekhar> zorba64, first thing, what is the default installation path for firefox?
[03:47] <rubem> thoreauputic, i think i found it!
[03:48] <nomasteryoda> ppine
[03:48] <Chameleon22> can anyone suggest how i could convert a bunch of mp3 files into wav so i could put them on a normal audo CD?
[03:48] <rubem> ok, what do i do?
[03:48] <ppine> nomasteryoda: Anyway to clear the complete cache ?
[03:48] <nomasteryoda> ppine, just sec...
[03:48] <ppine> nomasteryoda: ok
[03:48] <nomasteryoda> change your sites to ca.
[03:48] <thoreauputic> rubem: select easound as output
[03:48] <nomasteryoda> instead of us.
[03:48] <thoreauputic> *esound
[03:48] <rubem> it did not have it
[03:48] <nomasteryoda> us repos must be dorked
[03:48] <trix> how to install .deb?
[03:48] <thoreauputic> rubem: it does have it
[03:48] <Xenguy> _jason: oh, there's also 'kile' if yer into bloated GUI's ;-)  And for WYSIWYM, try 'Lyx'
[03:49] <ppine> using command line or the gui ?
[03:49] <mattlacey> shekhar: /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox
[03:49] <zorba64> shekhar: /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox
[03:49] <rubem> what the tab order of the output plugin?
[03:49] <thoreauputic> rubem: you will see oss alsa and esound ( esd)
[03:49] <rubem> i found it!
[03:49] <ckrueger> anyone good with CUPS, or changing the print spooler settings?
[03:49] <rubem> ok. i select
[03:49] <thoreauputic> rubem: click the drop down
[03:49] <_jason> Xenguy: yeah I read about kile, but I think I'lls tay away from it
[03:49] <shaoqi> _jason, there's no smeg package. i cant find it..
[03:49] <rubem> i found
[03:49] <ppine> nomasteryoda: where is the file located with the server so i can edit it using vim.
[03:49] <rubem> and selected eSound
[03:49] <rubem> libesdout.so
[03:49] <nomasteryoda> ppine, server?
[03:49] <rubem> and next?
[03:50] <thoreauputic> rubem: that's it - play an mp3
[03:50] <nomasteryoda> ppine, your system... /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:50] <shekhar> zorba64, mattlacey thanks
[03:50] <ppine> nomasteryoda: thaks
[03:50] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, you using us repos?
[03:50] <zorba64> shaoqi: np
[03:50] <ckrueger> any CUPS gurus?  i've got a problem with the spooler dumping too much data into the printer and causing it to choke on its own dick
[03:50] <shekhar> zorba64, mattlacey, second question
[03:50] <ckrueger> please help
[03:50] <zorba64> shekhar: np
[03:50] <rubem> thank you very, very much! it worked!
[03:50] <_jason> !tell shaoqi about smeg
[03:50] <thoreauputic> rubem: :))
[03:50] <zorba64> !smeg
[03:50] <ubotu> smeg is, like, totally, a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[03:51] <shaoqi> nomasteryoda, i'm not sure
[03:51] <shekhar> zorba64, mattlacey, can you explain to me the sound problem with skype in hoary and how to fix it without having to always restart esd in between apps
[03:51] <shaoqi> nomasteryoda, i tried searching in synaptic
[03:51] <Xenguy> _jason: kile looks impressive in its own way, but I tend to prefer something a bit more lean (actually I use 'restructured text' these days, which can crank out latex, amongst other formats)
[03:51] <theblue> Hello?
[03:51] <theblue> !path
[03:51] <ubotu> theblue: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[03:51] <ckrueger> why do i get the feeling i'm being ignored
[03:51] <zorba64> shekhar: pass on that one, never used it
[03:51] <theblue> Now we have a DPKG clone.
[03:51] <robotgeek> hmmm...amarok is very nice!
[03:51] <ckrueger> does anyone know how to tweak CUPS or the print spooler?
[03:51] <ckrueger> anyone?
[03:52] <ckrueger> for an LPT/ECP printer?
[03:52] <rubem> another problem
[03:52] <zorba64> ckrueger: help with what??...just ask away
[03:52] <shekhar> zorba64, ok how do i install embedded support for real audio and real video in firefox?
[03:52] <rubem> I was unable to install smeg
[03:52] <rubem> apt-get install smeg returns:
[03:52] <ckrueger> zorba64, i've been asking for 5 minutes now with no acknowledgements
[03:52] <mattlacey> shekhar: fraid i can't help you there, i edited it to use alsa instead of esd for everything
[03:52] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, do this..... less /etc/apt/sources.list | grep http://us.
[03:52] <ppine> nomasteryoda: i used w! but it cant open the file for writing it says
[03:52] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, do not post here
[03:52] <rubem> that it depends python-xds
[03:52] <rubem> python-xdg
[03:52] <nomasteryoda> ppine, is synaptic open again?
[03:53] <theblue> window 3
[03:53] <rubem> but python-xdg depends python-2.4
[03:53] <nomasteryoda> ppine, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:53] <ckrueger> zorba64, i need to lower the buffer size that's spooled to the printer...  at 600dpi, a single page makes the printer choke, whereas at 300dpi, the spooler doesn't overload it
[03:53] <ckrueger> any idea how to tweak the buffer?
[03:53] <shekhar> mattlacey, does skype work with alsa?
[03:53] <ckrueger> or the spooling method?
[03:53] <zorba64> shekhar: try realplayer, but it wont be embedded, there is mplayer which may/may not work if the codecs are installed
[03:53] <mattlacey> shekhar: yes, it does
[03:53] <rubem> and says that 2.4.1-0ubuntu2 is about to be instaled...
[03:53] <Xenguy> ckrueger: half the battle is asking the right question :-)
[03:53] <rubem> what do i do?
[03:54] <shekhar> zorba64, i have realplayer installed but i want it to work from within firefox for embedded audio and video
[03:54] <rubem> did anyone got it?
[03:54] <thoreauputic> rubem: run the script on the site at  http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/
[03:54] <mattlacey> shekhar: but you need to change a couple of config files... i can't remember how i did it :P google perhaps
[03:54] <ckrueger> Xenguy, lol, yeah, but apparently nobody knows anything about CUPS
[03:54] <theblue> Hello?
[03:54] <shekhar> mattlacey, how do i turn off esound and use alsa
[03:54] <thoreauputic> rubem: the script gets all the dependencies for you
[03:54] <theblue> Can anyone here tell me how to change my PATH?
[03:54] <crimsun> theblue: edit ~/.bashrc
[03:54] <ppine> nomasteryoda: ok that worked. getting the picture.
[03:54] <_jason> theblue: google it
[03:54] <mattlacey> shekhar: answer just above you
[03:54] <rubem> /etc/profile
[03:54] <theblue> Ok, thanks, crimsun.
[03:54] <shaoqi> nomasteryoda, after typing that in terminal, i tried synaptic, but still not available..
[03:54] <ckrueger> theblue, PATH="$PATH:/additional/directory" for a temp change
[03:54] <shekhar> mattlacey, ok thanks anyway :)
[03:54] <Xenguy> ckrueger: people often know more than you think, but you aren't asking real questions yet (at least nothing that I've seen so far)
[03:54] <zorba64> shekhar: google for mplayer and see it it supports what you want...i know it plays embedded for some formats
[03:55] <ripgut> can ANYONE help?
[03:55] <ckrueger> Xenguy, i've asked many real questions
[03:55] <thoreauputic> theblue: in /etc/bash.bashrc for global, in ~/.bashrc for your user terminal
[03:55] <shekhar> can anyone here help me with getting skype operational in hoary?
[03:55] <ckrueger> Xenguy, the bottom line is that i need to change the way that CUPS spools to my printer
[03:55] <rubem> it is a python script???
[03:55] <nomasteryoda> ppine, ok
[03:55] <ckrueger> Xenguy, the damned thing chokes at anything over 300dpi reporting a fatal error due to a memory overflow
[03:55] <crimsun> shekhar: you have to stop esd first. System> Preferences> Sound> uncheck Enable sound server startup
[03:55] <rubem> thoreauputic, is a python script?
[03:55] <ppine> nomasteryoda: howto refresh the list from commandline now ?
[03:55] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, did you see a list of sources?
[03:55] <thoreauputic> rubem: AFAIK yes
[03:55] <ckrueger> Xenguy, i hate to compare this to windows, but jesus...  at least the print spooler there worked right :)
[03:55] <nomasteryoda> sudo apt-get update
[03:55] <crimsun> shekhar: then use Skype. After you're finished using Skype, recheck that box you unchecked.
[03:56] <Xenguy> ckrueger: IC
[03:56] <shaoqi> nomasteryoda, sources? no
[03:56] <shekhar> crimsun, will this affect audio in other apps?
[03:56] <Xenguy> ckrueger: does your printer check out on linuxprinting.org (IIRC) ?
[03:56] <ckrueger> Xenguy, and this thing is an old HP LaserJet 6P, so i'd rather not dump money into more memory for it
[03:56] <clyrrad> Someone please tell me why I can not extract linux-source-2.6.10.tar.bz2, I get (bzip2: Data integrity error when decompressing.)  And the command I am using is sudo tar --bzip2 -xvf linux-2.6.12.tar.bz2
[03:56] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, can youu post your sources.list on to http://rafb.net?
[03:56] <crimsun> shekhar: while you're using Skype, yes
[03:56] <nomasteryoda> por favor
[03:56] <ckrueger> Xenguy, yeah, it's detected perfectly and there's a built-in driver specifically for this model
[03:56] <rubem> nomasteryoda: what means por favor?
[03:57] <shaoqi> nomasteryoda, how do i get the sources.list?
[03:57] <zorba64> clyrrad: sounds like it might be corrupted
[03:57] <_jason> lol
[03:57] <shekhar> crimsun, is this same problem in breezy also? should i upgrade?
[03:57] <ppine> nomasteryoda: it doesnt show its updating from ca.* just us.
[03:57] <denn_> anyone know how to install xvid codecs on ubuntu?
[03:57] <hd420> rubem: "please" == por favor
[03:57] <ckrueger> Xenguy, from linuxprinting.org - "BW laser printer, max. 600x600 dpi, works Perfectly"
[03:57] <rubem> which language?
[03:57] <mattlacey> clyrrad: also, you might find it quicker to use tar -xjvf instead
[03:57] <nomasteryoda> !tell shaqoi and ppine about repos
[03:57] <clyrrad> zorba64 I have tried to get it from kernel.org and get the same problem, where can I get it reliably?
[03:57] <crimsun> shekhar: it's Skype's fault
[03:57] <hd420> spanish
[03:57] <Xenguy> ckrueger: printers can be a dark art; good sign though if linuxprinting.org gives the thumbs up
[03:57] <nomasteryoda> !tell shaqoi  repos
[03:57] <_jason> rubem: portuguese too
[03:57] <nomasteryoda> !tell shaqoi about repos
[03:58] <ckrueger> Xenguy, yeah, it's damned near the most standards-compliant laser printer in the history of computing
[03:58] <nomasteryoda> !tell ppine about repos
[03:58] <nomasteryoda> !repos
[03:58] <ubotu> somebody said repos was at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[03:58] <zorba64> clyrrad: try tar -xjvf ...otherwise, how are you downloading it?
[03:58] <nomasteryoda> ppine, shaoqi read that info
[03:58] <nomasteryoda> please
[03:58] <rubem> smeg WORKED!
[03:58] <clyrrad> mattlacey.... tar -xjvf gives the same error, its like its corrupted
[03:58] <thoreauputic> rubem: two out of two so far :)
[03:58] <ckrueger> Xenguy, ok, get this...  the edited notes on the info page say " Probably works best with HP's HPIJS or with "gimp-print" with the setting "-sModel=pcl-4""
[03:58] <nomasteryoda> you have to save the sources.list changes .... then update the list... can purge if needed
[03:58] <rubem> thanks again thoreauputic
[03:59] <zorba64> clyrrad: toss it and redownload
[03:59] <shaoqi> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 is dead link
[03:59] <thoreauputic> rubem: no worries :)
[03:59] <ckrueger> Xenguy, i see no way to apply settings using any kind of line flags...  any idea?
[03:59] <ppine> nomasteryoda: ok, thx. even i think i did it right.
[03:59] <Xenguy> ckrueger: might be time to google this problem; if there is a known issue, then doubtless others have crossed that bridge
[03:59] <clyrrad> zorba64 from where?
[03:59] <rubem> how can i recompile the kernel? :P
[03:59] <nomasteryoda> ppine, ok
[03:59] <rubem> just kiding
[03:59] <rubem> :P
[03:59] <ckrueger> Xenguy, been there, done that for the past 72 hours
[03:59] <ckrueger> Xenguy, all i could find was what the error meant, and to drop it to 300dpi
[03:59] <rubem> does anyone use eclipse here?
[03:59] <zorba64> clyrrad: same place...what are you downloading it with?
[03:59] <ckrueger> Xenguy, it's a blast looking up secondary LED fatal error codes on laserjets
[03:59] <thoreauputic> :D
[03:59] <clyrrad> zorba64, I have tried from kernel.org, where else can i get it?
[04:00] <clyrrad> zorba64 using wget
[04:00] <rubem> hahahaha
[04:00] <Xenguy> ckrueger: I feel for ya -- you've messed around with the web interface then?
[04:00] <rubem> very funny... the old RTFM
[04:00] <rubem> nobody uses eclipse here???
[04:00] <ckrueger> Xenguy, i honestly had no idea there was a web interface, i've just been using the Gnome CUPS tool...  got more info for me?
[04:00] <rubem> eclipse, the best IDE ever??? nobody?
[04:01] <ckrueger> Xenguy, holy fuck, i'm a goddamned retard
[04:01] <Xenguy> ckrueger: it involves port 631 IIRC
[04:01] <Xenguy> ckrueger: ?
[04:01] <rubem> wired...
[04:01] <shekhar> crimsun, it's skype's fault <-- please explain
[04:01] <ckrueger> Xenguy, i tried the non-recommended driver (ljet4) rather than hpijs and it works perfectly at 600dpi now
[04:01] <trix> i have a question
[04:01] <zorba64> clyrrad: do you have a local mirror of kernel.org?   where are you??
[04:01] <Xenguy> ckrueger: hehe
[04:01] <denn_> anyone know how to play divx or xvid videos on ubuntu?
[04:01] <clyrrad> zorba64, I used this wget http://kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.10.tar.bz2
[04:01] <venzen> crimsun, i had to apt-get remove mozilla-firefox mozilla-firefox-gnome-support and reinstall to get firefox 1.0.7
[04:01] <Xenguy> ckrueger: congratulations :-)
[04:01] <clyrrad> Im in Canada
[04:02] <ckrueger> Xenguy, i get the feeling the "hpijs" driver is for inkjets, hence the ij...
[04:02] <nomasteryoda> ppine, the command to purge that list is sudo apt-cache dump
[04:02] <ckrueger> Xenguy, god damn i'm dumb
[04:02] <crimsun> shekhar: Skype does not provide an ALSA output, so it can't works with simultaneous sounds unless you have hardware that supports it.
[04:02] <ckrueger> Xenguy, thanks for taking the time to try to help me
[04:02] <shaoqi> nomasteryoda, what's the next step? what about sources.list? sorry =x
[04:02] <durt> hpijs works with my deskjet
[04:02] <nomasteryoda> found that by using "man apt-cache"
[04:02] <trix> how to install .deb n my desktop the filename is /sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0%2Bupdate04_i386.deb
[04:02] <venzen> ppine work for laserjets too
[04:02] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, did you post your list to rafb.net?
[04:02] <trix> wat will i do?
[04:03] <thoreauputic> trix: sudo dpkg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0%2Bupdate04_i386.deb
[04:03] <rubem> can I ask another very dificult question?
[04:03] <shaoqi> nomasteryoda, but how do i get the list? sorry, i'm a litle slow here
[04:03] <thoreauputic> although that % looks wrong somehow...
[04:03] <zorba64> clyrrad: have a look here http://www.kernel.org/mirrors/...use wget -c ...that continues if you have to stop it for any reason
[04:03] <Lenhador> Breezy is stable?
[04:03] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:03] <rubem> is that true that i can run Star Craft and War Craft 3 in linux???
[04:03] <nomasteryoda> in a terminal
[04:03] <Lenhador> is Breezy stable?
[04:03] <thoreauputic> tristanmike: tab complete the deb name
[04:03] <nomasteryoda> Lenhador, not yet
[04:04] <thoreauputic> oops
[04:04] <tristanmike> thoreauputic, ok, thanks
[04:04] <zorba64> Lenhador: nope...it isn't 13 Oct yet
[04:04] <tristanmike> thoreauputic, i don't remember asking though :P
[04:04] <Lenhador> nomasteryoda: when it will be stable? in next month?
[04:04] <trix> nothing happens
[04:04] <Lenhador> zorba64: hum... Oct
[04:04] <ppine> nomasteryoda: still doesnt show
[04:04] <nomasteryoda> see zorba64's post
[04:04] <durt> i think so rubem
[04:04] <thoreauputic> trix: sorry my message to tristanmike was for you
[04:04] <rubem> did anyone here have ever played a win32c game in linux, such as star craft?
[04:04] <thoreauputic> tristanmike: tab error :)
[04:05] <shaoqi> nomasteryoda, i pasted..
[04:05] <thoreauputic> tristanmike: sorry
[04:05] <Blue1k> hey :)
[04:05] <tristanmike> thoreauputic, oh, not a probem sir, lol
[04:05] <durt> you need WINE rubem
[04:05] <trix> Options marked [*]  produce a lot of output - pipe it through `less' or `more' !
[04:05] <trix> user@workgroup:~$ sudo dpkg i- sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb
[04:05] <trix> dpkg: need an action option
[04:05] <trix> Type dpkg --help for help about installing and deinstalling packages [*] ;
[04:05] <trix> Use dselect for user-friendly package management;
[04:05] <trix> Type dpkg -Dhelp for a list of dpkg debug flag values;
[04:05] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:05] <tristanmike> thoreauputic, that's a funny tab error
[04:05] <trix> Type dpkg --force-help for a list of forcing options;
[04:05] <trix> Type dpkg-deb --help for help about manipulating *.deb files;
[04:05] <trix> Type dpkg --licence for copyright licence and lack of warranty (GNU GPL) [*] .
[04:05] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, you using breezy?
[04:05] <trix> dis a an error dat come out
[04:05] <shaoqi> nomasteryoda, done that.. got the list
[04:05] <rubem> durt: wine or cedega?
[04:05] <shaoqi> nomasteryoda, nope, hoarty
[04:05] <thoreauputic> trix: you need to be in the directory where the deb is
[04:05] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, it will be there...
[04:06] <trix> how
[04:06] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, try sudo -s
[04:06] <trix> my directory is on the desktop
[04:06] <zorba64> trix: try sudo dpkg -i
[04:06] <durt> wine is free, i dont think cedega is rubem, and warcraft supposedly works well will wine
[04:06] <thoreauputic> trix: cd /path/to/directory
[04:06] <shaoqi> nomasteryoda ok..
[04:06] <nomasteryoda> trix, please paste such in #flood or http://rafb.net
[04:06] <thoreauputic> trix: yes you got the - in the wrong place
[04:07] <rubem> durt, i heard that rumor to, but no one have ever showed to me
[04:07] <thoreauputic> trix: sudo dpkg -i
[04:07] <rubem> durt: a win32 game working
[04:07] <trix> no such file directory
[04:07] <mattlacey> i'm out, later all
[04:07] <durt> rubem, i guess you oughta just try it then ;)
[04:07] <thoreauputic> trix: as I said, you need to cd to the directory
[04:07] <shaoqi> nomasteryoda, it's not in the list on package in synaptic, strange..
[04:07] <rubem> durt: and i want to know if someone here have done it, of if is a legend
[04:07] <rubem> of == or
[04:07] <ppine> nomasteryoda: updating from ca now i made a wrong edit, the line after #
[04:08] <thoreauputic> trix: is it on your Desktop?
[04:08] <ripgut> alrighty then, i guess  this is useless
[04:08] <rubem> sorry about my english... have english
[04:08] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, what's not in the list... mplayer?
[04:08] <thoreauputic> trix: cd ~/Desktop if so
[04:08] <ppine> nomasteryoda: but still not in the list .... aarrgh.
[04:08] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, did you tell it to update?
[04:08] <shaoqi> nomasteryoda, smeg
[04:08] <nomasteryoda> let me look at mine again
[04:08] <trix> ok11 iwill try
[04:08] <trix> tnx dude
[04:09] <shaoqi> nomasteryoda, how do i update the package list?
[04:09] <rubem> thank you all,,, goodbye...
[04:09] <nomasteryoda> click reload
[04:09] <nomasteryoda> in synaptic
[04:09] <bigjaws> Hey... How do I su to root.  I don't know the password, and it didn't ask for one at install
[04:09] <bigjaws> just need to mkdir and cant
[04:09] <ppine> shaoqi: sudo apt-get update
[04:09] <thoreauputic> !tell bigjaws about root
[04:09] <zorba64> bigjaws: sudo
[04:09] <nomasteryoda> or in console type "sudo apt-get update"
[04:10] <ZeroA4> bigjaws, the root does not have a password
[04:10] <bigjaws> just type sudo?
[04:10] <thoreauputic> bigjaws: sudo <your command here>
[04:10] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, mine is there
[04:10] <ZeroA4> bigjaws, you can do command as root using "sudo command"
[04:10] <Xorlev> Question: How can I make awk print out newline separated lines by the variables $1 and $2 etc?
[04:10] <thoreauputic> bigjaws: and give *your* password
[04:10] <shaoqi> nomasteryoda, i get an error msg, can i paste it somewhere to show you?
[04:10] <clyrrad> zorba64, I get the exact same errors, even when i downloaded the sources from a Canadian Mirror
[04:10] <nomasteryoda> smeg that is
[04:10] <clyrrad> Data integrity error when decompressing.
[04:10] <zorba64> bigjaws: sudo (command) ...then enter your password
[04:10] <ppine> nomasteryoda: Mplayer isnt ?
[04:10] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, http://rafb.net... for the 5th time
[04:10] <ZeroA4> bigjaws, the password it asks is your user password
[04:11] <bigjaws> gotcha... did it.. thanks
[04:11] <nomasteryoda> ppine, yes it is
[04:11] <durt> rubem, just try it: http://frankscorner.org/index.php?p=warcraft3
[04:11] <nomasteryoda> ppine, paste your sources.list to http://rafb.net
[04:11] <bigjaws> so ubunto doesnt really have a root?
[04:11] <ppine> nomasteryoda: ok
[04:11] <nomasteryoda> then the link paste it here
[04:11] <Xorlev> bigjaws: Not in the technical term no.
[04:11] <zorba64> !root
[04:11] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[04:11] <bigjaws> You just do sudo to get root authority?
[04:11] <Xorlev> bigjaws: Correct.
[04:11] <clyrrad> zorba64, sudo tar --bzip2 -xvf linux-2.6.10.tar.bz2 is what I am trying to use, but no matter what I am not able to decompress the archive
[04:11] <thoreauputic> bigjaws: read the URL ubotu sent you
[04:12] <bigjaws> interesting...  Not sxure how I feel about ubunto yet
[04:12] <bigjaws> downloading mepis now... still shopping
[04:12] <shaoqi> nomasteryoda, pasted
[04:12] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, link?
[04:12] <zorba64> clyrrad: is bzip2 installed??
[04:12] <Xorlev> If you need a root terminal, just sudo -s.
[04:12] <clyrrad> Yes its installed
[04:12] <thoreauputic> zorba64: of course
[04:12] <nomasteryoda> ok, i c
[04:13] <Xorlev> Root terminal only needed if you're doing LOTS of root administration and you don't want to type sudo each time.
[04:13] <thoreauputic> clyrrad: tar xvjf
[04:13] <zorba64> clyrrad: this is weird...somrthing is corrupting you downloads...wont be the mirrors
[04:13] <steely> i just installed ubuntu and can't find an address on the web now
[04:13] <trix> what is the easiest way to install java?
[04:13] <nomasteryoda> shaoqi, well i have seen that too...
[04:13] <nomasteryoda> bad signatures
[04:13] <clyrrad> zorba64, what do you think can be the problem?
[04:13] <steely> am i on a different network or something
[04:13] <Xorlev> steely: Does your network config have a valid DNS server?
[04:13] <thoreauputic> zorba64: your syntax is wrong
[04:14] <shaoqi> nomasteryoda, strange enuff, i have update, reload. smeg still doesn't appear.. strange strange..
[04:14] <nomasteryoda> any reason we are seeing bad signatures on security.ubuntu.com hoary-security sources?
[04:14] <ripgut> anyone?
[04:14] <ripgut> help?
[04:14] <Xorlev> steely: Can you ping within the network?
[04:14] <thoreauputic> oops sorry I meant clyrrad
[04:14] <steely> yeah
[04:14] <Xorlev> ripgut: What do you need?
[04:14] <trix> what is the easiest way to install java?
[04:14] <ripgut> i need to get my zen micro working in ubuntu
[04:14] <clyrrad> thoreauputic what do you mean?
[04:14] <shekhar> crimsun, i am having dependency problems with skype and libqt3c102-mt
[04:14] <thoreauputic> clyrrad:  tar xvjf <your file.bz2>
[04:14] <clyrrad> I have done that
[04:14] <Xorlev> steely: Sounds like DNS problems to me. Can you try pinging a known external IP?
[04:14] <clyrrad> get the same error
[04:14] <trix> its hard for me to install the java on my desktop
[04:14] <steely> sure
[04:15] <zorba64> thoreauputic: wasnt my syntax
[04:15] <Xorlev> ripgut: And whats not working? Is it not mounting?
[04:15] <kubrick> I get seg fault when i try to purge some packages, any idea ?
[04:15] <Gobbla> umm i got a friend that tries out the live cd, what should i tell him to do to that would impress a just migrated windows user?
[04:15] <thoreauputic> zorba64: I know - sorry
[04:15] <ripgut> i just need to get it to work with gnomad
[04:15] <zorba64> thoreauputic: np
[04:15] <Xorlev> Gobbla: Keep an uptime of over a week? :P
[04:15] <trix> try to set in dhcp
[04:15] <ripgut> can someone pm me and walk me through this, its ben weeks now and i still cant get it to work
[04:15] <ripgut> im ready to go back to windows......
[04:16] <steely> xorlev: all other pages seem to be available through firefox
[04:16] <Gobbla> Xorlev, dont think that will do the trick :)
[04:16] <Gobbla> since he turns it off every night
[04:16] <ppine> nomasteryoda: Thanks its working now, i made a copy of your file and replaced it for mine.
[04:16] <Xorlev> Gobbla: Hmm...to impress a just migrated TO Windows FROM what?
[04:17] <nomasteryoda> ppine, good
[04:17] <nomasteryoda> welcome
[04:17] <steely> xorlev: the site i seek seems simply to have disappeared from the web
[04:17] <steely> but i know that it hasn't
[04:17] <Gobbla> *from windows
[04:17] <Gobbla> i mean
[04:17] <Lenhador> Hey, I'm using auto-hinting on fontconfig, but fonts on gtk1 programs are ugly... what is the way of configure it?
[04:17] <ppine> nomasteryoda: i just didnt look good the 1st time i looked at it.
[04:17] <Xorlev> steely: So its just one site?
[04:18] <steely> yeah
[04:18] <steely> that i know of
[04:18] <steely> hehe
[04:18] <Xorlev> steely: The site could be down. Which site?
[04:18] <steely> maybe millions
[04:18] <steely> xconnect
[04:18] <Xorlev> .com?
[04:18] <steely> yeah
[04:18] <Xorlev> Seems up for me.
[04:18] <steely> hmm.  brb
[04:18] <zorba64> Lenhador: you get that with gtk1.2 stuff
[04:19] <nomasteryoda> ppine, that's where the commandline works better ... imho
[04:19] <ppine> nomasteryoda: agree, i think i like command line more anyway.
[04:19] <ppine> nomasteryoda: new to linux though, 1st day.
[04:20] <nomasteryoda> certainly easier to remember to use the Tab completion too ... that helps
[04:20] <Xorlev> ppine: Linux will serve you well =)
[04:20] <Lenhador> zorba64: i'm using amule, is amule .deb with gtk2 ?
[04:20] <ppine> Xorlev: we'll see how i serve it ;)
[04:21] <Xorlev> ppine: Hint of paprika please, oh, and the gardonzola sauce...
[04:21] <ken> hello
[04:21] <nomasteryoda> ppine, good learning then
[04:21] <Xorlev> Greetings ken.
[04:21] <nomasteryoda> 2 weeks you'll a pretty smart noob
[04:21] <ken> Hi this is my very first time using Ubuntu and IRC chat.
[04:22] <ken> I dont know what Im doing so please have patients..
[04:22] <thoreauputic> welcome ken :)
[04:22] <owyhee> anyone know a command that will tell me how much RAM is in my system? top?
[04:22] <Xorlev> ken: Welcome to Ubuntu and IRC then =)
[04:22] <Xorlev> owyhee: free
[04:22] <ken> thank you
[04:22] <owyhee> thx
[04:22] <thoreauputic> owyhee: or free -m
[04:23] <Da_SWAT> ppine, read and learn and you shall succeed
[04:23] <steely> ok, xorlev
[04:23] <zorba64> Lenhador: i had a look at www.amule.org...dont like your chances
[04:23] <ppine> What is the default location for fonts ? mplayer complains it cant find while it did seem to install fonts, askes me to provide now to /~* if i can find it in default ill copy it to where it askes it to be.
[04:23] <ken> I am also some what new to Linux and having a ball exploring this new cool enviroment
[04:23] <steely> your connection inspired mine somehow
[04:23] <steely> that's odd
[04:23] <Xorlev> Okay, a question. What would be the correct option to have awk make a newline separated list into fields so I can print $1 for the first line and such?
[04:23] <_jason> ppine there is a package called mplayer-fonts i believe
[04:24] <steely> does the ubuntu 5.04 standard download come with a firewall?
[04:24] <Xorlev> steely: heheh, sometimes ISPs are quirky.
[04:24] <thoreauputic> ppine: did you install mplayer-fonts ?
[04:24] <steely> indeed
[04:24] <Xorlev> steely: iptables, but Firestarter is a GUI frontend to it.
[04:24] <Xorlev> <3 iptables
[04:24] <Gobbla> umm my friend has started root terminal from the live cd... but when he does commands it tells him only root can do that..
[04:24] <Gobbla> whats wrong?
[04:25] <ripgut> can anyone help me?
[04:25] <thechitowncubs> ripgut, what up man
[04:25] <Xorlev> Is the prompt # Gobbla?
[04:25] <Xorlev> Try sudoing.
[04:25] <Gobbla> root@h107n2fls31o812:/home/ubuntu #
[04:25] <ripgut> supchitown
[04:25] <ripgut> can you pm me bro?
[04:25] <ppine> _jason: its there installing right now, i thought apt-get would install all packages automatically that are needed for the package i install
[04:25] <Gobbla> its root alright..
[04:26] <shekhar> zorba64, i still need some help with audio plugins for firefox
[04:26] <Gobbla> same error with sudo
[04:26] <shekhar> zorba64, mplayer works, but only for some types
[04:26] <_jason> ppine:  if it installed correctly then I don't know, sorry bro
[04:27] <zorba64> shekhar: you may not be able to get exactly what you want with just one player
[04:27] <ppine> ok its working now ! (Y)
[04:27] <thechitowncubs> ripgut, you there?
[04:27] <_jason> ppine: lol ok
[04:27] <ripgut> i am
[04:27] <thechitowncubs> ripgut, your pm got lost in the cyberspace milkyway
[04:27] <shekhar> zorba64, now that i have installed mplayer i cannot get realplayer to work :(
[04:28] <Xorlev> Gobbla: odd.
[04:28] <ken> Can anyone tel me a good place to start out with linux file commands.. like Linux for dummy's or something?
[04:28] <thoreauputic> ken: http://tuxfiles.org
[04:28] <ripgut> chitown you getting my pm?
[04:28] <ken> thanks
[04:29] <thechitowncubs> ripgut, negative
[04:29] <ripgut> you msn, or yahoo messenger?
[04:29] <Xorlev> ken: Check out http://www.unixgeeks.org/security/newbie/unix/
[04:29] <thechitowncubs> ah one sec
[04:30] <ken> ok
[04:30] <steely> xorlev: what about guarddog firewall?
[04:30] <Gobbla> Xorlev, he got pissed and logged of
[04:30] <thechitowncubs> send it again
[04:30] <Gobbla> good first time impression
[04:30] <ppine> how to let me browse the smb network from a dialog box    eg. open file in Mplayer
[04:30] <thechitowncubs> ripgut, register with nickserv
[04:30] <ken> Well my first impression is good... I like this ....
[04:30] <ppine> i did mount it.
[04:31] <thechitowncubs> ripgut, the server is not allowing pms from unregistered users cause of spam
[04:31] <thechitowncubs> ripgut, im on yahoo, johnnylambrechts13
[04:31] <ken> This is actually my first boot of Ubuntu and I have been able to all 4 things I need
[04:31] <Gobbla> well the live cd seems to kinda suck
[04:31] <steely> my first boot too
[04:31] <durt> why does the xmms-mplayer plugin crash so often?
[04:31] <Xorlev> steely: Never used it.
[04:31] <ken> surf, chat, IM, play music   etc.. so far this is a cool OS
[04:32] <Xorlev> Gobbla: The live cds alot of times have problems.
[04:32] <steely> i believe firestarter may be a bit difficult for a novice
[04:32] <liz4rd> yay
[04:32] <Xorlev> steely: Firestarter is about as basic as it gets.
[04:32] <ken> A Windows guy told me about it... and so far I like it better than windows... but only one draw back.. actually two
[04:32] <Xorlev> liz4rd: Any major problems?
[04:32] <liz4rd> not at all achully
[04:33] <liz4rd> its running perfect
[04:33] <WebLOCH> allo all
[04:33] <Lazlo> i was trying to update my system and go this error E: /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.08_all.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/X11/fonts', which is also in package xfonts-base
[04:33] <steely> xorlev: I'll give it a shot
[04:33] <liz4rd> sept
[04:33] <Lazlo> what does that mean?
[04:33] <thoreauputic> steely: actually a novice shouldn't need a firewall in ubuntu - no services are running by default
[04:33] <Lazlo> and how can i fix it
[04:33] <steely> thanks for the hep
[04:33] <ken> Mines good
[04:33] <liz4rd> i had a problem with firefox setting up but i did a -f and it worked
[04:33] <steely> i have read that
[04:33] <denn_> where do i find xorg.conf file?
[04:33] <ken> Im glad I can come here and get some help.... my bro wont help me...
[04:33] <steely> do you think it's true, thoreauputic?
[04:34] <thoreauputic> steely: sure
[04:34] <ZeroA4> denn_, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:34] <steely> well.  i appreciate the advice.
[04:34] <liz4rd> ken, thats right whenever an ubuntu problem come here :D the people here rock
[04:34] <thoreauputic> steely: no sevices listening = no ports "open"
[04:34] <ken> Well, Im going to run.. this has been cool   have a good day everyone!!!!
[04:34] <steely> i guess it makes sense.
[04:34] <WebLOCH> unless you run breezy
[04:34] <WebLOCH> in which case we hate you
[04:34] <liz4rd> i run breezy
[04:34] <liz4rd> fuck you
[04:34] <liz4rd> lol
[04:34] <WebLOCH> hate you
[04:34] <ken> I un Breezy....
[04:35] <ken> run
[04:35] <thoreauputic> liz4rd: erm...
[04:35] <linlin> any guys that work with the mac ppc hoary distro?
[04:35] <linlin> having some bootloader probs
[04:35] <liz4rd> sorry thoreauputic
[04:35] <ken> laterz
[04:35] <Lazlo> i was trying to update my system and go this error E: /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.08_all.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/X11/fonts', which is also in package xfonts-base
[04:35] <Lazlo> and how can i fix it
[04:35] <Gobbla> thoreauputic, a port open dosent mean its a problem, am i right?
[04:35] <thoreauputic> liz4rd: I realise you were joking...
[04:35] <liz4rd> :)
[04:35] <WebLOCH> liz4rd, i forgive thee, come unto mine bossom
[04:35] <thoreauputic> Gobbla: ?
[04:35] <liz4rd> hahaha XD
[04:35] <steely> thor: what is the program that you can run windows games from
[04:35] <steely> something like cedeg
[04:35] <liz4rd> wine?
[04:35] <liz4rd> cedega
[04:35] <thoreauputic> steely: cedega
[04:35] <liz4rd> ?
[04:35] <steely> yeeeah
[04:35] <Gobbla> just because a port is open, dosent mean u can actually do anything?
[04:36] <WebLOCH> liz4rd, im just jealous because its not stable yet and runs like a kitchen sink on my machine
[04:36] <liz4rd> lol
[04:36] <liz4rd> i only had one problem but the wiki helped me out
[04:36] <WebLOCH> liz4rd, you lucky buggar
[04:37] <liz4rd> :D
[04:37] <nomasteryoda> WebLOCH, i think you can install the kitchensync too ... =)
[04:37] <liz4rd> just come here man
[04:37] <clyrrad> zorba64, I checked the archive on another PC and the archive is not corrupted, just this machine can not uppack it... any idea why that is?
[04:37] <WebLOCH> liz4rd, my keyboard and mouse die isntantly
[04:37] <liz4rd> if you have questions just ask
[04:37] <afaik> I only have one small problem myself :)
[04:37] <WebLOCH> nomasteryoda, I wouldnt be surprised matey, i wouldnt one bit!
[04:37] <trix> /home/user/Desktop/jre1.5.0_04/plugin/desktop/sun_java.png
[04:37] <thoreauputic> nomasteryoda: yeah, the kitchen sink would be sudo apt-get install emacs21 :P
[04:37] <fadumpt> how do i allow users to run the xserver from SSH?
[04:37] <liz4rd> WebLOCH, then your f***ed :P
[04:37] <fadumpt> is there a group i have to add them too?
[04:37] <afaik> video playback... sometimes it just starts dropping frames on xine... but it can be rare, like after an hour
[04:37] <WebLOCH> liz4rd, yeah tell me about it haha
[04:37] <afaik> it's unpredictable
[04:38] <afaik> anyway to ensure that frames dont get dropped?
[04:38] <liz4rd> WebLOCH, just wait man it will work
[04:38] <nomasteryoda> lol
[04:38] <clyrrad> thoreauputic.... does that give you any indication of where the problem may be?
[04:38] <thoreauputic> fadumpt: ssh -X blah
[04:38] <ppine> lazlo: sudo dpkg -i --force overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.08_all.deb
[04:38] <ppine> that works
[04:38] <fadumpt> thoreauputic, it says denied
[04:38] <fadumpt> so i need to allow the user to use it
[04:38] <fadumpt> which is where i'm at
[04:38] <thoreauputic> fadumpt: you need to install openssh-server
[04:38] <WebLOCH> liz4rd, yeah im confident that breezy release candidate will work
[04:38] <fadumpt> thoreauputic, it's installed
[04:38] <ppine> " Hmmm he's gone :S
[04:38] <fadumpt> that's how come I can SSH into my box
[04:39] <liz4rd> WebLOCH, oh yeah no doubt
[04:39] <Da_SWAT> problem: I did a apt-get upgrade and got 2 broken pipes (2x mozilla firefox 1.0.7, what can I do to fix this?)
[04:39] <thoreauputic> fadumpt: on the machine you are ssh ing to?
[04:39] <fadumpt> yes...
[04:39] <thoreauputic> fadumpt: not that ssh -X is upper case X
[04:39] <Gobbla> why arent openssh-server installed by default?
[04:39] <thoreauputic> *note
[04:39] <fadumpt> Gobbla, i don't know but i had to install it :(
[04:39] <thoreauputic> Gobbla: no servers installed by default
[04:40] <fadumpt> i type ssh -CX user@computer
[04:40] <Gobbla> yes, but why?
[04:40] <fadumpt> ubuntu sucks like that
[04:40] <thoreauputic> Gobbla: policy, desktop orientation....
[04:40] <mike1> problem: trying a fedora/ubuntu dual boot - can't mount the fedora partition
[04:40] <Gobbla> ok
[04:40] <durt> what device do i use to get the xmms-lirc plugin working?
[04:40] <fadumpt> basically I have everything working fine, I just need to add users to the allowed list of whatever
[04:40] <fadumpt> the special user group, an xauth config, whatever
[04:40] <Gobbla> had problem finding it since i was looking for sshd
[04:41] <fadumpt> I just can't drag that info out of the net, #xorg or no one
[04:41] <thoreauputic> fadumpt: you don't need special groups for ssh
[04:41] <Gobbla> just set a password
[04:41] <clyrrad> thoreauputic: are you able to proivde me any pointers with the tar problem I am having?
[04:41] <emerson> hello
[04:42] <Gobbla> yo
[04:42] <thoreauputic> fadumpt: you might need to look at your ssh config files and see if you need to enable X forwarding
[04:42] <emerson> hola
[04:42] <WebLOCH> man eye am tiad
[04:42] <fadumpt> thoreauputic, it is enabled, I've been able to start an X server over SSH
[04:42] <thoreauputic> clyrrad: sorry I haven't been following
[04:42] <fadumpt> but the users I want to start the X server don't have permission to do so
[04:42] <thoreauputic> fadumpt: oh - sorry I must have misunderstood you then
[04:42] <Gobbla> anybody here got a clue of what software i need to build a ipv6 router?
[04:42] <ppine> the mozilla-mplayer is also for firefox ?
[04:43] <CaptainMorgan> does ubuntu require reboots to alter system changes like resolution?
[04:43] <Gobbla> CaptainMorgan, think so
[04:43] <WebLOCH> Gobbla - you thought about running FRESCO or Smoothwall ?
[04:43] <thoreauputic> CaptainMorgan: restarting X should be enough
[04:43] <Gobbla> x reboot that is
[04:43] <bigjaws> captain, didnt for me
[04:43] <Gobbla> WebLOCH, does those support ipv6?
[04:43] <fadumpt> not a problem thoreauputic, I was wondering why you hadn't caught on :-D sorry
[04:43] <Gobbla> ive heard smootwall doesent
[04:43] <CaptainMorgan> I have altered the xconf so that there is only one resolution - 1280x1024 and it's not forcing it
[04:44] <WebLOCH> Gobbla, FRESCO emulates a full Cisco router
[04:44] <fadumpt> xinit -- :3 vt12 is the wrong command
[04:44] <clyrrad> thoreauputic: I have downloaded the kernel sources as a .tar.bz2 file....  We thought the archive was corrupted, but its not another box is able to extract the file and view it.  I get an error tar: Skipping to next header tar: Archive contains obsolescent base-64 headers bzip2: Data integrity error when decompressing.... And I cant figure out why, please any help is appreciated
[04:44] <WebLOCH> Gobbla, the name FRESCO derives from "FREE CISCO"
[04:44] <Gobbla> webcruser, is that a yes?
[04:44] <fadumpt> i ran it as root from the mac ssh login and it switched my ubuntu's main gui to session 3 :-/
[04:44] <WebLOCH> Gobbla, dont really know, would assume it does, a brief google will tell you
[04:44] <afaik> why is mplayer crashing when I try to open files?
[04:44] <Selekta> someone helop me with alot of driver issues?
[04:44] <thoreauputic> clyrrad: very odd - is this on breezy?
[04:45] <clyrrad> nope horay
[04:45] <afaik> it just hangs, becomes unresponsive
[04:45] <Selekta> i am trying to convert an old cash register into a useable machine...it has an AMD K62 333mhz processor and 64mb ram
[04:45] <Selekta> has a pc-chips board of some sort
[04:45] <Gobbla> WebLOCH, a quick google didnt indicate that it does..
[04:45] <Selekta> but ubuntu doesn't detect any of it
[04:45] <Strog> yuck, pc-chips
[04:45] <Selekta> i know :(
[04:45] <clyrrad> thoreauputic: I am at a loss I cant understand why it wont extract, I have been at this for hours now
[04:45] <WebLOCH> Gobbla, you seem pretty smart for the average user, look a liottle harder?
[04:45] <WebLOCH> little*
[04:46] <Selekta> all it picks up it Mxxxx Aladdin III
[04:46] <afaik> http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu
[04:46] <thoreauputic> clyrrad: I can't understand it either frankly
[04:46] <Selekta> which is an SiS chipset that pc-chips renamed...
[04:46] <Selekta> it picks up all the normal hardware
[04:46] <Selekta> like my dlink wireless cdard
[04:46] <Wilf> but video is stuck at 640x480
[04:47] <WebLOCH> Wilf,  you own a non-nvidia. non-ati graphics card?
[04:47] <Gobbla> WebLOCH, doesnt look like it does :/
[04:47] <Wilf> it's onboard 1998 leet styles cash register video card
[04:47] <Wilf> this is an ex pos machine...
[04:47] <liz4rd> isnt nickv an op
[04:47] <WebLOCH> Gobbla, sorry for the misdirection then mate
[04:47] <liz4rd> or w/e
[04:47] <DewDude> haha
[04:47] <liz4rd> wheres he
[04:48] <DewDude> sis did make graphics chipsets
[04:48] <WebLOCH> Wilf, ahh harsh, sorry man
[04:48] <Gobbla> WebLOCH, dont be sorry, thanks for trying :)
[04:48] <DewDude> my HP had one...it was a POS
[04:48] <Wilf> also when i log in, it goes "couldn't find the web address for ubuntu so gnome won't work properly
[04:48] <Wilf> or something
[04:48] <thoreauputic> clyrrad: do you actually need the kernel sources, or would  linux-headers-$(uname -r) be enough for your purposes ?
[04:49] <Gobbla> dunno if ppl just ignore/hate me, or if most dont have any knowledge of ipv6, but i cant seem to get any answers
[04:49] <WebLOCH> clyrrad,  whats the problem dude?
[04:49] <WebLOCH> Gobbla, I think generally its peoples ignorance so they dont bother responding at all
[04:50] <Gobbla> WebLOCH, i get that impression also, pity :/
[04:51] <WebLOCH> Gobbla, I guess, but these people want usability, not configurability, new technology doesnt interest them until its ready and running
[04:51] <Gobbla> seems like clarkconnect supports it though
[04:51] <Strog> Gobbla: I don't hate you (I'll give it some time). ;-)  I have messed with IPv6 but it's been exclusively with BSD.
[04:51] <Phr0stByte> w00t!!! Got my HandyTone-488 VoIP adapter working!!!
[04:51] <Tortel> hi
[04:51] <Gobbla> Strog, hard to fix?
[04:52] <Gobbla> how did you get that funky vhost btw Strog?
[04:52] <Tortel> im kinda bored, so im gunna randomly say stuff here fyi
[04:52] <Strog> It's not a vhost. It's a freenode cloak.
[04:52] <Versed> does it work good pro0st?
[04:52] <Gobbla> oh..
[04:53] <Gobbla> Strog, what did you use then?
[04:53] <WebLOCH> alright all
[04:53] <WebLOCH> take care
[04:53] <WebLOCH> im off
[04:53] <Gobbla> iptables (not sure what that is yet, but ppl have benn talking about it=
[04:53] <Phr0stByte> Versed: Awsome - I can even make VoIP calls from my cell on the road
[04:53] <Gobbla> ?
[04:53] <Versed> vonnage?
[04:53] <ppine> na
[04:54] <Phr0stByte> Versed: No - I am my own provider
[04:54] <Strog> Gobbla: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[04:54] <Phr0stByte> Versed: I sell VoIP services
[04:54] <Versed> k
[04:54] <poningru> Phr0stByte: how do you go to the public switches?
[04:54] <Gobbla> Strog, i meant the ipv6 router
[04:54] <CaptainMorgan> anybody using a Thinkpad T43 ?
[04:54] <CaptainMorgan> trying to find monitor info..
[04:54] <Strog> Gobbla: I used OpenBSD at the gateway and various clients internally
[04:55] <CaptainMorgan> tabook doesn't list it
[04:55] <ppine> nomasteryoda: what was it again > ? gtnautilus ?
[04:55] <Phr0stByte> poningru: www.voipphone.ubifone.com
[04:55] <Gobbla> yes, but what did you use/do to get it up running
[04:55] <Gobbla> ?
[04:55] <nomasteryoda> nautilus
[04:55] <Strog> You mean which tunnelbroker?
[04:55] <nomasteryoda> add --browser to have file tree
[04:56] <Gobbla> strog, no how to get things like reverse dns working..
[04:56] <ppine> nomasteryoda: sudo gt nautilus ?
[04:56] <ppine> somthing like that.
[04:57] <Phr0stByte> poningru: we have a deal with MCI here in the US - other telcos in other countries
[04:57] <Strog> Gobbla: Your broker has to setup the block to be maintained by you first. Then I setup a BIND9 server to just handle the reverse DNS
[04:57] <nomasteryoda> ppine, what are you wanting to do?
[04:58] <Gobbla> Strog, ok that was like greek to me heh :)
[04:58] <poningru> Phr0stByte: ic
[04:59] <denn^^> what's a good bittorrent client for linux?
[04:59] <Strog> Gobbla: It's an education and took me a while to get all the pieces together
[04:59] <Strog> ctorrent if you like a nice cli
[04:59] <Gobbla> well i dont think freebsd is really my thing
[04:59] <Gobbla> would rather make it work on a linux machine
[04:59] <Strog> Gobbla: For IPv6 or just in general?
[05:00] <Gobbla> general
[05:00] <Versed> Well sorta using it right now.
[05:00] <Phr0stByte> poningru_laundry: want to get hooked up?
[05:00] <poningru_laundry> Phr0stByte: naah thanks though
[05:00] <Phr0stByte> k
[05:00] <ppine> nomasteryoda: start the nautilus with all access
[05:00] <poningru_laundry> Phr0stByte: -> #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:00] <poningru_laundry> I want to ask couple of things
[05:00] <narg> denn^^: azureus
[05:01] <narg> denn^^: needs java, but its top grade.
[05:01] <nomasteryoda> ppine, sudo nautilus
[05:01] <poningru_laundry> I would use something like rufus for it
[05:01] <Lenhador> what is the program that collect data from clipboard on gnome?
[05:01] <nomasteryoda> but use with Care!!
[05:01] <ppine> nomasteryoda: awhile ago u told me a diffrent option ?
[05:02] <ppine> somthing in front
[05:02] <bigjaws> When I'm on my XP box and try to go to my ubuntu box, it askes for a login and password, but my logon wont work...
[05:02] <bigjaws> any idea why?
[05:02] <^^sweet^^> assas
[05:02] <thoreauputic> ppine: gksudo nautilus
[05:02] <bigjaws> I have samba on and shared a folder
[05:02] <nomasteryoda> ppine, if you want to open a terminal and type ... sudo -s
[05:02] <ppine> thoreauputic: i got mixed up :D
[05:02] <nomasteryoda> ppine, then you can launch synaptic or nautilus or anything from it
[05:03] <thoreauputic> ppine: gksudo is just a GUI for sudo :)
[05:03] <Gobbla> Strog, can you explain what a BIND9 server is/does please?
[05:03] <nomasteryoda> thanks thoreauputic ... i don't ever use it
[05:03] <nomasteryoda> =)
[05:03] <Gobbla> and also what iptables is?
[05:03] <thoreauputic> nomasteryoda: neither do I - but some people do :)
[05:03] <nomasteryoda> true
[05:04] <nomasteryoda> that's why its there
[05:04] <Wilf> bigjaws, i had the same problem
[05:04] <Strog> BIND is a DNS server and iptables is the linux firewall
[05:04] <nomasteryoda> !firewall
[05:04] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, firewall is Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter.
[05:04] <Wilf> i had to make a user on the ubuntu box that matched the windows user
[05:04] <nomasteryoda> Gobbla, your firewall, when installed will use the iptables to keep you safe
[05:04] <bigjaws> I used the same user name but different passwordes
[05:04] <Wilf> try making them the same password.
[05:05] <Gobbla> ok thx
[05:05] <Wilf> just as a starting point
[05:05] <Gobbla> then what is a BIND9 server?
[05:05] <weijie90> hi.. how do i add cursors?
[05:05] <poningru_laundry> denn^^: dude http://rufus.sourceforge.net/index.php
[05:05] <Gobbla> BIND6 would make more sense to me..
[05:05] <thoreauputic> weijie90: install gcursor
[05:05] <weijie90> sook
[05:05] <weijie90> ok
[05:06] <nomasteryoda> Gobbla, Uncle google says it's http://www.isc.org/sw/bind/
[05:06] <nomasteryoda> first link
[05:06] <Gobbla> ah, just the version
[05:06] <Gobbla> :)
[05:07] <Strog> It supports IPv4 and IPv6
[05:07] <Gobbla> ok cool
[05:07] <Gobbla> now I have something to work with
[05:07] <Gobbla> thanx..
[05:08] <ppine> when a smb is mounted why doesnt it show up in /mnt ?
[05:08] <Gobbla> or wait, is BIND just for BSD?
[05:08] <steely> how do i get a CVS client?
[05:08] <nomasteryoda> no
[05:11] <ppine> thoreauputic: i dont notice any differance between sudo n^ or gksudo n^
[05:11] <Strog> Gobbla: It's available on many platforms. I think it's developed on Tru64 or used to be
[05:11] <weijie90> i have a program that has to be compiled with gcc version 3.4, and im using breezy (gcc-4.0)
[05:11] <Gobbla> Strog, okay
[05:11] <weijie90> how do i use gcc as version 3.4?
[05:11] <thoreauputic> ppine: right - both work, really
[05:12] <Strog> steely: apt-get install cvs or synaptic can hook you up
[05:12] <nomasteryoda> weijie90, you installing vmware?
[05:12] <nomasteryoda> weijie90,  sudo CC=/usr/bin/gcc3.4
[05:12] <weijie90> something like that : qemu+kqemu
[05:12] <nomasteryoda> ah
[05:12] <weijie90> oh
[05:12] <weijie90> thanks
[05:12] <nomasteryoda> then export CC
[05:12] <thoreauputic> ppine: gksudo is nice if you use a launcher, because it gives you somewhere to type a password :)
[05:12] <nomasteryoda> sudo export CC
[05:13] <ppine> when i mount a smb share it does place an icon on the desktop only from within programs i cant browse to my data there, the share isnt anywhere to choose
[05:13] <ppine> thoreauputic: :) thats kinda handy
[05:13] <Gobbla> anyone here got any knowledge of insomnia?
[05:13] <Erinnerung> hallo zu sammen
[05:14] <Tortel-sleep> nn
[05:14] <CaptainMorgan> I even tried: $ sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:15] <CaptainMorgan> which supposedly added the resolutions and rates
[05:15] <CaptainMorgan> but nope..
[05:15] <nomasteryoda> CaptainMorgan, what video card?
[05:15] <CaptainMorgan> under preferences, it's listed as 1024x768
[05:15] <CaptainMorgan> as the highest
[05:15] <CaptainMorgan> X300
[05:16] <CaptainMorgan> 32Mb
[05:16] <nomasteryoda> is this a laptop...
[05:16] <CaptainMorgan> ATi
[05:16] <CaptainMorgan> aye
[05:16] <ppine> is it possible to connect to irc.freenode.net using ssl\tls?
[05:16] <linner> CaptainMorgan, I'm having the EXACT same problems....
[05:16] <Noah0504> Does anyone know of a nice guide that will help me become more advanced with Linux?
[05:16] <linner> CaptainMorgan, and I haven't been able to fix it!
[05:16] <CaptainMorgan> Linner: you have a thnkpad ?
[05:16] <linner> CaptainMorgan, no... Compaq v2000z
[05:16] <CaptainMorgan> driving me nutz
[05:17] <JDahl> Noah0504, there are several. Just google for linux or gnu tutorials, or buy "Linux in a nutshell"
[05:17] <linner> tell me about it... I'm on my 6th install
[05:17] <CaptainMorgan> 1024x768 is garbage
[05:17] <Noah0504> Thanks.
[05:17] <CaptainMorgan> damn.. lot's o' installs
[05:17] <CaptainMorgan> at least Ubuntu is faster than most out there ;)
[05:17] <Jeezis> my /var/log/ was taking up about 26 gigs of space, so i deleted the whole thing...and apparently some of those were important
[05:18] <Jeezis> is there any way i can have linux recreate these log files? xorg won't start because it's missing /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:18] <Jeezis> anyone?
[05:18] <weijie90> nomasteryoda: it doesnt work
[05:18] <Equaliz3r> Is there anyway to get a microsoft wireless usb adapter to work in ubuntu
[05:18] <weijie90> even with gcc-3.4
[05:18] <JDahl> Jeezis, try "touch Xorg.0.log" to create an empty copy
[05:18] <Jeezis> ok
[05:18] <chris__> how to start phpbb2
[05:19] <chris__> i have installed phpbb2 how can i get it to start so i can configure it
[05:19] <nomasteryoda> Equaliz3r, yes...
[05:19] <nomasteryoda> !ndiswrapper
[05:19] <ubotu> ndiswrapper is probably a way to support Windows wirless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[05:19] <bob2> chris__: there's nothing to tstart
[05:20] <nomasteryoda> Equaliz3r, you need to look at that
[05:20] <bob2> chris__: just visit the right url
[05:20] <nomasteryoda> weijie90, i forgot what i said
[05:20] <nomasteryoda> sorry
[05:20] <Equaliz3r> ok thanks i will check it out
[05:20] <weijie90> CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4
[05:20] <chris__> what do you mean bob2
[05:20] <weijie90> export CC
[05:20] <nomasteryoda> yes
[05:21] <Jeezis> that didn't work :-/
[05:21] <bob2> weijie90: why are you trying to compile ndiswrapper?
[05:21] <nomasteryoda> that should do it ... worked for me
[05:21] <Equaliz3r> its only going to be temp im just hoping to get it working for now till i run a cable under the house
[05:21] <bob2> Jeezis: you can't recreate those files
[05:21] <weijie90> ndiswrapper?
[05:21] <nomasteryoda> kqemu
[05:21] <bob2> Jeezis: but X will not fail to start just because it's log is missing
[05:21] <nomasteryoda> bob2, Equaliz3r needs the ndiswrapper
[05:21] <Jeezis> bob2: that's what it's saying
[05:21] <bob2> ah
[05:21] <nomasteryoda> weijie90, is trying to install qemu/kqemu
[05:21] <bob2> Jeezis: show us the exact wording in #flood
[05:22] <Jeezis> umm, how would i copy and paste it, i'm stuck in console?
[05:22] <weijie90> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=368437#post368437
[05:22] <bob2> Jeezis: type it out manually then
[05:22] <fmasi> Is ther a way to get apt to instala acroread 7 ?
[05:23] <nomasteryoda> !acroread
[05:23] <ubotu> acroread is probably wget http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/deb/adobereader-enu_7.0.1-2_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i adobereader-enu_7.0.1-2_i386.deb
[05:23] <Jeezis> ok, i'll be right back bob2
[05:23] <trix> i already install my java jre but it appears on my desktop.. wat will i do?
[05:23] <bob2> trix: that means you didn't install it at all
[05:24] <fmasi> ubotu, why is it not in the repository
[05:24] <trix> and it has a lock icon
[05:24] <ubotu> fmasi: what are you talking about?
[05:24] <trix> wat will ido
[05:24] <nomasteryoda> fmasi, it's a restricted package
[05:24] <fmasi> ubotu, i did a search in synaptic and i only found the acrored 5 not 7
[05:24] <ubotu> fmasi: Not a clue
[05:25] <grabbies200> hello can anybody help me with ethernet problems?
[05:25] <nomasteryoda> fmasi,  ubotu  is the bot
[05:25] <bob2> chris__: /usr/share/doc/phpbb2/README.Debian
[05:25] <bob2> grabbies200: not unless you really ask a question...
[05:25] <fmasi> ubotu, is ther a way to ad eny repository that have restricted packages then
[05:25] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, fmasi
[05:25] <nomasteryoda> !tell fmasi  about acroread
[05:25] <Equaliz3r> is there a place to download ndiswrapper-utils from a web site i dont have internet access in ubuntu right now
[05:25] <chris__> thanks BOb2
[05:25] <nomasteryoda> !tell fmasi  about repos
[05:26] <grabbies200> i have a linksys router and ubuntu assigne an ip using dhcp, but then i am unable to connect to the internet
[05:26] <Jeezis> ok, it says fatal server error: cannot open /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:26] <fmasi> i knew whith apt
[05:26] <nomasteryoda> grabbies200, wireless?
[05:26] <fmasi> i come from gentoo
[05:26] <grabbies200> wired conncetion
[05:26] <trix> can u pls help me!!
[05:26] <trix> ei!! bob2
[05:26] <Jeezis> then xinit giving up, errorno 111 connection refused by server
[05:26] <dabar> trix: not before you say what you want.
[05:27] <bob2> trix: the first step would be to stop being irritating
[05:27] <nomasteryoda> grabbies200, what does ifconfig -a show? ... do not paste here
[05:27] <Jeezis> then xinit: errorno 30
[05:27] <bob2> trix: the second step is to ask a coherent question
[05:27] <bob2> trix: explaining what youve done and what you hope to acheive
[05:27] <bob2> Jeezis: that doesn't sound like X caring about the log being gone
[05:27] <bob2> Jeezis: what else did you do?
[05:27] <linner> CaptainMorgan, did you get a solution?  I was away from the computer.
[05:27] <fmasi> I folow the steps in ubuntu gide to add extra repos, and try to instal acroread 7 but ther is only acroread 5
[05:27] <me> anyone who can help with my new ubuntu?
[05:28] <Jeezis> that's it, that's the only thing i've done afaik
[05:28] <Shaoqi>  /query nomasteryoda
[05:28] <bob2> me: if you want help, you need to ask a question
[05:28] <nomasteryoda> fmasi, do it the way ubotu said
[05:28] <Shaoqi> oosp
[05:28] <afaik> Jeezis, what's that?
[05:28] <nomasteryoda> lol
[05:28] <Jeezis> i guess i'll reinstall, i really don't want to
[05:28] <bob2> Jeezis: don't be silly
[05:28] <nomasteryoda> !ubotu, acroread
[05:28] <ubotu> well, acroread is wget http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/deb/adobereader-enu_7.0.1-2_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i adobereader-enu_7.0.1-2_i386.deb
[05:28] <Shaoqi> nomasteryoda, my sources list is in a mess now, lol
[05:28] <Jeezis> afaik: sorry, i was using the abbreviation as far as i know
[05:28] <Shaoqi> nomasteryoda, i paste back and errors pop out in synaptic
[05:28] <dabar> hahaha!
[05:28] <nomasteryoda> Shaoqi, just start over ... us the one you made a backup of
[05:29] <fmasi> ubotu, error in server
[05:29] <ubotu> fmasi: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[05:29] <dabar> afaik: you can not be serious.
[05:29] <JDahl> Jeezis, you dont have to reinstall for something like this
[05:29] <Jeezis> bob2: could i just reinstall xserver-xorg?
[05:29] <linner> bob2, i'm in recovery mode and need to know how to change my ATI card driver.
[05:29] <bob2> Jeezis: not unless you actually know what the problem is
[05:29] <Shaoqi> nomasteryoda, yeah. i use the one, but it gives error
[05:29] <nomasteryoda> fmasi, ubotu IS A ROBOT
[05:29] <fmasi> a ok
[05:29] <bob2> linner: that makes no sense
[05:29] <dabar> nomasteryoda: he is a program.
[05:29] <grabbies200> i cannot paste because it is on another computer, it gives me the ip address 192.168.1.103, the netmask 255.255.255.0 the broadcast 192.1680.1.255 do you need something else?
[05:29] <fmasi> kkkkkkkkkkkkk
[05:29] <nomasteryoda> dabar, i know
[05:29] <Jeezis> hmmm
[05:29] <nomasteryoda> bot = robot = program
[05:29] <JDahl> Jeezis, you can try "strace X"... this gives *a lot* of output, that you may not be able to interpret
[05:29] <dabar> robot-moving parts.
[05:29] <linner> bob2, I am in recovery mode.  X Server is not loading.  I need to change the driver it is using when it boots.
[05:30] <linner> bob2, there are commands that we've used in the past and I do not know what they are.
[05:30] <dabar> linner: well, could you not just do this from normal console?
[05:30] <bob2> Jeezis: login to a terminal and run "X".  if it pops up a black and white screen, hit ctrl-alt-delete
[05:30] <Jeezis> JDahl: ok, let me see what that gives me
[05:30] <Fallacy> I followed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPackageBuildNewVersions exactly and it didn't work
[05:30] <bob2> linner: why do you think you need to change the driver?
[05:30] <Fallacy> java is still broked in firefox
[05:30] <fmasi> i get eror 404 from the ubotu whay
[05:30] <linner> dabar, i could if i could get INTO the system
[05:30] <linner> bob2, because x-server is failing to load
[05:30] <Noah0504> Is there anyway to get the taskbar to flash when something happens in an application, like recieving an IM in Gaim?
[05:30] <tritium> Fallacy, what didn't work?  Did the package build?
[05:31] <dabar> linner: you off course know about the consoles, right?
[05:31] <Fallacy> ye the package built
[05:31] <tritium> Hi linner.  Sorry I missed your messages earlier.
[05:31] <Fallacy> but i got a few "permission denied" things
[05:31] <bob2> linner: and you know that the problem is that it chose the wrong driver?
[05:31] <linner> dabar, no I wish I did
[05:31] <linner> tritium, no worries
[05:31] <Equaliz3r> is there a place to download ndiswrapper-utils
[05:31] <bob2> Equaliz3r: duh, packages.ubuntu.com
[05:31] <dabar> linner: well, you hit alt+ctrl+f1 when you are in the gnome gui, and that gets you to a console.
[05:31] <linner> bob2, tritium knows my problems from previously... I'll see if he has a minute (or 90 to help  me! :)
[05:31] <linner> dabar, ok... when I can get into Ubuntu then I'll do that. :)  Thank yiou.
[05:32] <linner> you.
[05:32] <tritium> what's going on, linner ?
[05:32] <linner> tritium, remember all my problems last night?
[05:32] <linner> tritium, well now i'm back to problem 1... can't load the x server
[05:32] <tritium> more or less, yes.  Are you using the i386 Colony 5 cd now?
[05:32] <linner> so i'm booted in recovery mode
[05:32] <linner> yes
[05:32] <linner> ;)
[05:32] <dabar> linner: you need to tell us about the version, and the graphics card
[05:33] <linner> dabar, i have i386 Colony 5 - last night's build and an ATI 200m
[05:33] <tritium> linner, go ahead and query me
[05:33] <Linux_whore> does ubuntu come with a ftp client that has a gui
[05:33] <D1> does anyone know if suspend/hibernate is configured the same as hoary in breezy?
[05:33] <linner> Linux_whore, yes... gFTP
[05:33] <D1> Linux_whore, nautilus or gftp.
[05:33] <tritium> D1, what do you mean?
[05:33] <linner> tritium, where do I go from here?
[05:33] <dabar> Linux_whore:  nautilus works too. In the file menu, or in the places menu, ther is connect to server, check that out.
[05:33] <D1> I mean, how do I configure suspend in breezy.
[05:34] <linner> i'm at a root... what commands should i use to try and change the driver it's using... SuSE was using the Radeon driver.
[05:34] <grabbies200> nomasteryoda: i cannot paste because it is on another computer, it gives me the ip address 192.168.1.103, the netmask 255.255.255.0 the broadcast 192.1680.1.255 do you need something else?
[05:34] <Fallacy> so noone knows why java + firefox didnt work after i did https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPackageBuildNewVersions ?
[05:34] <tritium> D1, uncomment line 2 of /etc/default/acpi-support for starters.  Other modifications may be necessary.
[05:34] <fmasi> nomasteryoda,  i got eror 404 from the comand ubotu sayd
[05:34] <tritium> Fallacy, you didn't give us any details about what failed
[05:34] <Fallacy> nothing.
[05:34] <D1> ok, thats a start. thanks.
[05:34] <Fallacy> which is why i'm here :P
[05:34] <tritium> nothing failed?  great!
[05:34] <Fallacy> I finished that tutorial word by word
[05:34] <Fallacy> but java still doesn't work in firefox
[05:35] <tritium> Fallacy, did the package build correctly?  Did you install it?
[05:35] <nomasteryoda> grabbies200, ok
[05:35] <Strog> Doesn't show up in about:plugins or shows up but doesn't load?
[05:35] <Fallacy> ye the package built correctly, i got a few errors about permission denied though
[05:35] <Fallacy> but it kept going
[05:35] <dabar> anyhow. I need to write out a short essay type thing for people that want to install Ubuntu, and have one partition on their hard drive, that has windows on it. I have some ideas. Like, for example, I am going to say, there are many of you guys that want  to install Ubuntu. Some of you think like this: "I have windows on my HD, and I know its infested with spyware anyhow, so I might as well reinstall, repartition, and install Windows, t
[05:36] <tritium> Fallacy, did you install ti?
[05:36] <nomasteryoda> grabbies200, what does "route -n" show?
[05:36] <dabar> any ideas for some articles that talk about that?
[05:36] <Fallacy> with sudo dpkg -i sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb ?
[05:36] <tritium> Yes, Fallacy
[05:37] <Fallacy> ye and no problems/issues
[05:37] <Fallacy> do i have to tell firefox somehow that java has just been installed
[05:37] <liz4rd> alright i got to install windows on my other hd but it will screw my mbr how do i fix it so grub will work agian
[05:37] <tritium> Which release are you using, Fallacy?  Which version of firefox?  (i.e. what's the package name?)
[05:37] <Strog> Fallacy: I thought you said it had permission errors?
[05:38] <Fallacy> during compile it did, but it skipped on
[05:38] <grabbies200> nomasteryoda: destinatio 102.168.1.0 gateway 0.0.0.0 genmask 255.255.255.0 flags u metric 0 ref 0 use 0 eth0
[05:38] <nomasteryoda> ic
[05:38] <nomasteryoda> grabbies200, for some reason it is not getting the gateway
[05:38] <JDahl> are there major changes in X fonts from Hoary to Breezy? Terminals fonts seem to looks alot nicer in Breezy, or maybe it's just my imagination
[05:38] <nomasteryoda> grabbies200, you can add manually
[05:39] <nomasteryoda> sudo network-admin
[05:39] <hosler> glxgears wont display my fps anymore for some reason. Anyone know why?
[05:39] <Fallacy> latest hoary, firefox 1.0.7 and the package was jdk-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.bin
[05:39] <grabbies200> nomasteryoda: ok i can try but i cannot use any x application
[05:39] <nomasteryoda> grabbies200, np
[05:39] <nomasteryoda> you can do it with the ifconfig command
[05:40] <nomasteryoda> grabbies200, try 'man ifconfig'
[05:41] <grabbies200> nomasteryoda: ok i go try thanks, is the gatway address the same of the router address?
[05:41] <hosler> grabbies200: what are you trying to do?
[05:41] <nomasteryoda> grabbies200, that should be the same
[05:41] <grabbies200> hosler: set my gateway address with ifconfig
[05:42] <nomasteryoda> he can't get any X app to work
[05:42] <hosler> nomasteryoda: isnt it defaultrouter the thing he has to set?
[05:42] <nomasteryoda> or can't use tem
[05:42] <nomasteryoda> that will do it
[05:43] <hosler> grabbies200: why dont you use dhcp?
[05:43] <Linux_whore> where do i put the symbolic links for the java command and java compiler?
[05:43] <nomasteryoda> he is ...
[05:43] <nomasteryoda> but it does not give the gateway
[05:43] <dabar> Linux_whore: if you install a deb, it will do it for you. Am I right here?
[05:43] <hosler> it should
[05:44] <grabbies200> hosler: i use dhcp but for some reason it doesn't set the gateway address
[05:44] <Linux_whore> no, this is jdk from java.sun.com
[05:44] <hosler> is the gateway's ip 192.168.0.1?
[05:44] <JDahl> Linux_whore, otherwise put your own stuff in /usr/local/*
[05:44] <Jeezis> is there any way to burn files to a cd from console?
[05:44] <CaptainMorgan> where are the 'X header files and link-time libraries' defaulted to?
[05:44] <Linux_whore> its in there already i need to know where to put the symbolic links for the java commands
[05:45] <hosler> /usr/bin
[05:45] <hosler> i think
[05:45] <Jeezis> anyone?
[05:45] <CaptainMorgan> that to me hosler?
[05:45] <JDahl> Linux_whore, /usr/local/bin
[05:45] <tritium> hosler, no, you don't want to touch system folders like that.  use /usr/local/bin, as JDahl points out
[05:45] <hosler> no
[05:45] <hosler> tritium: ok
[05:45] <grabbies200> nomasteryoda: i looked the man page of ifconfig but there is nothing about gateway
[05:45] <dabar> ya, true, there for the java programs. for mozilla firefox, inside the mozilla codecs dir. and I am not sure which files you need to link there.
[05:45] <hosler> CaptainMorgan: no that wasnt directed to you, sorry.
[05:45] <JDahl> Jeezis, cdrecord is a command-line tool for writing CDs, but not easy to use
[05:46] <Fallacy> tritium: no ideas for me? :(
[05:46] <Jeezis> ok, i'll see what i can do JDahl
[05:46] <JDahl> Jeezis, are you still having trouble with X?
[05:46] <JDahl> jeez
[05:46] <tritium> Fallacy, if the package installed, how is it failing?
[05:46] <JDahl> I wanted to tell him about ALT-F1, ALT-F2 etc
[05:46] <tritium> Please give me more info, Fallacy
[05:47] <Fallacy> its not failing
[05:47] <fmasi> some one know why i cant get acrored from http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ is it offline  ???
[05:47] <Fallacy> I installed java to have it in firefox
[05:47] <Fallacy> thats what isn't working
[05:47] <grabbies200> nomasteryoda: is there a file i can modify so at restart it will set the gateway correctly?
[05:47] <mikhail^> Fallacy: did you link the necessary .so's in the firefox plugin directory?
[05:48] <Fallacy> i don't know how :(
[05:48] <dabar> fmasi: click on your link. Then download, and sudo dpkg -i the package you download. you should use xpdf, it is nicer.
[05:48] <nomasteryoda> let me look in my settings
[05:48] <tritium> mikhail^, that should be unnecessary
[05:48] <Fallacy> I'm a newb to the max
[05:48] <mikhail^> Fallacy: okay, what Java package did you install?
[05:48] <fmasi> dont whork even cliking on it do i nead to be register or some thing ?
[05:48] <Fallacy> jdk-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.bin
[05:49] <Fallacy> er i followed the wiki
[05:49] <tritium> no, Fallacy, you installed the .deb package you built from that using java-package
[05:49] <Fallacy> oh
[05:49] <Fallacy> sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb
[05:49] <nomasteryoda> grabbies200, gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[05:49] <zeeeee> hi all, i always need to specify -Y when i ssh into my machine for trusted x11 forwarding. adding "ForwardX11Trusted yes" to my ssh config didn't work. what else do i need to do?
[05:49] <mikhail^> Fallacy: did you restart mozilla?
[05:49] <tritium> Fallacy, can you please dpkg -L sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb, and look for the plugins?
[05:50] <tritium> oops, just the package name
[05:50] <Fallacy> just the pkg name?
[05:50] <nomasteryoda> grabbies200, look at "man interfaces
[05:51] <tritium> Fallacy, yes, dpkg -L <packagename> lists the files in that package
[05:51] <grabbies200> nomasteryoda: i am on it thanks
[05:51] <nomasteryoda> k
[05:51] <shekhar> can someone help me with helix/realplayer and firefox
[05:51] <Fallacy> i did dpkg
[05:52] <Fallacy> i followed the wiki in full
[05:52] <JDahl> shekhar, just ask your question and someone will answer if they can
[05:52] <tritium> did you see the plugins, Fallacy ?
[05:52] <bjron> hey, what's the "correct" way to edit what services (eg a webserver) are run automatically?
[05:52] <durt> my computer lights up and stuff when i press a button on my remote control, but how do i get the computer to do stuff?
[05:53] <tritium> bjron, update-rc.d in hoary, nice new gui in breezy
[05:53] <shekhar> JDahl, i have installed real player and helix player from packages, but i cannot start them from gnome menu or have firefox open them upon download
[05:53] <me> how do i install? dpkg filename.deb------is this the command?
[05:53] <mikhail^> me: dpkg -i filename.deb
[05:53] <me> how do i install a package? dpkg filename.deb------is this the command?
[05:53] <me> oh thanls brb
[05:53] <tritium> me, use sudo before the command
[05:53] <me> oh thanks brb
[05:54] <bjron> tritium, ah, I knew I saw the nice gui somewhere. . . on my other system  :P
[05:54] <tritium> bjron, :)
[05:54] <GoRoDeK> is it possible to use gnome themes within enlightment?
[05:54] <GoRoDeK> enlightenment
[05:55] <Tidus> GoRoDeK: explain a little more
[05:55] <dkm> does anyone know the location of the RealPlayer 10 package?
[05:55] <dabar> multiverse
[05:55] <gxc> dkm: http://www.real.com/linux/
[05:56] <chris__> I HAVE INSTALLED PHPBB2 AND MYSQL AND APACHE 2 HOW DO I SET UP A BULLETIN BOARD
[05:56] <dkm> gxc: the installation .bin didn't work out for me
[05:56] <dabar> dkm^
[05:56] <GoRoDeK> using enlightenment within gnome instead of metacity and i didn't found any suitable theme for enlightenment and want to use a gnome theme
[05:56] <durt> isnt realplayer in backports or extras?
[05:56] <tritium> chris__, please don't use all-caps
[05:56] <chris__> OK
[05:57] <JDahl> chris__, he just told you not to use all caps
[05:57] <dabar> durt: no, in multiverse
[05:57] <gxc> I think totem-xine + Win32Codec is a better choice
[05:57] <tritium> durt, but it's a package that will install the realplayer version 8, not 10
[05:58] <dabar> ah
[05:58] <dabar> well, what do they use that for anyhow?
[05:58] <dabar> I play .rm files in my media players.
[05:58] <dabar> like, xine.
[05:58] <durt> tritium, um, ive got real 10 from some repo
[05:58] <grabbies200> nomasteryoda: reset the interfaces files and configuration worked fine, THANKS!
[05:59] <dabar> durt: what do you do with that program?
[05:59] <durt> dabar, what program?
[05:59] <nomasteryoda> np
[05:59] <shekhar> can someone tell me how to remove manually installed packages
[05:59] <dabar> realplayer
[05:59] <Fallacy> tritium: how many plugins should i see = /
[05:59] <durt> you watch stuff with it
[05:59] <nomasteryoda> and i learned something about ubuntu at same time
[05:59] <nomasteryoda> =)
[05:59] <tritium> Fallacy, I don't know
[06:00] <Fallacy> i got this :(
[06:00] <Fallacy> root@JYbox:/home/jy # dpkg -L sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb
[06:00] <Fallacy> Package `sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb' is not installed.
[06:00] <durt> speaking of realplayer, why wont xmms recognize libreal.so?
[06:00] <mikhail^> Fallacy: dpkg -L sun-j2sdk1.5 | grep plugin
[06:01] <Fallacy> k one sec
[06:01] <fmasi> enny one can tel me how to get the acroread 7 to whork becouse the ubotu tips whont whork eror 404
[06:01] <cesarin> anyone knows how to see the FAT32 partitions on linux , breezy 32 bit, 686?
[06:01] <tritium> Fallacy, I told you to only use the package name
[06:01] <dkm> i want to test the embedded realplayer in linux, so i can't really use xine or mplayer
[06:01] <Fallacy> oops
[06:01] <durt> fmasi, there are other pdf viewers out there
[06:01] <Fallacy> im not sure what to look for, but theirs alot of things
[06:02] <fmasi> its becouse i whanted to put the mozilla plugin
[06:02] <th4tba5t4rd> cesarin: are they mounted in /media ?
[06:02] <D1> anyone running breezy with suspend/resume?
[06:02] <shekhar> dkm, i want to do the same thing but am having problems...
[06:02] <tritium> durt, do you know of any that can do smooth scrolling though?
[06:02] <durt> fmasi, you can use mozplugger
[06:02] <fmasi> durt, and i like the acroread
[06:02] <D1> I cant get it to work. ;[
[06:02] <cesarin> th4tba5t4rd,  only see the mounted ntfs partitions and my main linux partition
[06:02] <linlin> !dpkg teamspeak
[06:02] <ubotu> No idea, linlin
[06:02] <cesarin> but I Cant see the FAT32 one
[06:02] <fmasi> durt, gona try
[06:02] <tritium> D1, yes, I have it running.  Did you do as I told you?
[06:02] <cesarin> !fat32
[06:02] <ubotu> fat32 is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[06:02] <D1> I did.
[06:02] <D1> do you have a link for reference?
[06:02] <tritium> Did you reboot or try to restart acpi?
[06:02] <D1> some howto
[06:03] <jim17> hey... can anybody help me with an iptables problem?
[06:03] <cesarin> wow, that url is down? o_O
[06:03] <durt> gv by far the fastest pdf viewer ive used
[06:03] <th4tba5t4rd> cesarin: then it's not mounted and you're going to have to mess with your fstab but it's pretty easy and there's a guide or two in the forums
[06:03] <Fallacy> tritium: it looks like its just a bunch of applets & demos = /
[06:03] <cesarin> th4tba5t4rd,  ok, ill see if I can find them in the forums
[06:03] <Fallacy> could this have anything to do with those permission denied's
[06:04] <dkm> shekhar: when i install using the real.com binary file, the realplay program won't play any files
[06:04] <tritium> No, Fallacy.  That's from using fakeroot
[06:04] <dkm> i've read this is a common problem in Ubuntu
[06:04] <shekhar> dkm, same here! i wonder who can help us...
[06:04] <Fallacy> er well im not positive what to be looking for = /
[06:04] <Fallacy> i didnt see anything to do with firefox or mozilla
[06:04] <shekhar> dkm, have you tried installing helix player?
[06:04] <tritium> dkm, installing non-ubuntu packages is a good way to break your system
[06:04] <dkm> shekhar: maybe a closer look at the forums
[06:04] <durt> dkm and shekhar, hoary or breezy?
[06:04] <dkm> hoary
[06:04] <shekhar> hoary
[06:05] <shekhar> durt, how do we remove them now?
[06:05] <dkm> tritium: well the Ubuntu package only installs RealPlayer 8, as mentioned above
[06:05] <tritium> yep
[06:05] <D1> running /etc/acpi/sleep.sh gives me a bunch of errors, so something is not working right.
[06:05] <tritium> D1, did you reboot, I asked?
[06:05] <shekhar> dkm, yes i also wanted to install realplayer10 so i went for the package
[06:05] <durt> probably have to delete the stuff manually shekhar, or read the directions
[06:05] <phrizer> Hm, im trying to install gcc, and synaptic keeps asking me to insert the ubuntu cdrom, which is already inserted. then it borks. with
[06:05] <phrizer> W: Failed to fetch cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)] /pool/main/g/gcc-3.3/gcc-3.3_3.3.5-8ubuntu2_i386.deb
[06:05] <phrizer>   Unable to unmount the CD-ROM in /cdrom/, it may still be in use.
[06:05] <D1> sorry, yeah I did.
[06:05] <dkm> i installed RealPlayer as a non-root user so i was easily able to delete the files
[06:06] <D1> but nothing happens when I close/open my lid.
[06:06] <D1> just the screen comes back.
[06:06] <tritium> phrizer, comment out the line in /etc/apt/sources.list that lists your install CD
[06:06] <tritium> D1, like I said, you may have to tweak the config
[06:06] <dkm> shekhar: i installed ubuntu helix-player but there was an error, and it didn't seem to put the right files in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins
[06:06] <phrizer> ok
[06:06] <dkm> i'm not sure if helix-player is equivalent to RealPlayer 10
[06:07] <tritium> D1, which laptop make and model/
[06:07] <D1> acer aspire 3000
[06:07] <cesarin> btw, anyone knows a good GAIM-like program but similar to trillian? ( Ie, skinneable and in ICQ like engine )
[06:07] <D1> I had it working in hoary pretty nicely.
[06:08] <D1> but I dont know how to go about it in breezy, if not the same.
[06:08] <tritium> D1, did you save your config?
[06:08] <phrizer> tritium, thanks.
[06:08] <shekhar> dkm, you want to play embedded audio and video in firefox right?
[06:08] <D1> no.
[06:08] <tritium> It's the same, D1
[06:08] <dkm> shekhar: yes
[06:08] <D1> oh ok.
[06:08] <D1> hmmm.
[06:08] <D1> https://wiki.ubuntu.com//HoaryPM
[06:08] <dabar> cesarin: I do, for Mac OS X. Adium X. http://www.adiumx.com/
[06:08] <D1> thats what I followed.
[06:08] <durt> you guys oughta get opera and mozplugger
[06:08] <zeeeee> hi all, i always need to specify -Y when i ssh into my machine for trusted x11 forwarding. adding "ForwardX11Trusted yes" to my ssh config didn't work. what else do i need to do?
[06:08] <cesarin> dabar, I mean for ubuntu, not for MAC :P
[06:08] <zeeeee> (see http://rafb.net/paste/results/vbBPGj78.html for what my config looks like)
[06:08] <dabar> I said Mac anyhow.
[06:09] <tritium> linner, it's trying to load an nvidia driver
[06:09] <Fallacy> Tritium: what now lol = / i'm looking at the list
[06:09] <fredforfaen> what app stands for automounting cd's and usb devices?
[06:09] <dkm> durt: if realplay.bin won't play the files, we probably won't have much luck with a different browser
[06:09] <fmasi> what is the equivalent to rpm.pbone for ubuntu ?
[06:09] <tritium> Fallacy, so you verified that they're there?  Did you restart firefox?
[06:09] <D1> bah, set this straight for me....
[06:09] <bjron> is there any reason to be running acpi-support on a non-laptop machine
[06:09] <D1> what is the difference between sleep.sh and hibernate.sh?
[06:09] <Fallacy> no i didnt lol, i dont know what im looking for
[06:10] <bjron> ?
[06:10] <Fallacy> at all
[06:10] <tritium> Fallacy, please answer my questions.  Did you restart firefox?
[06:10] <kycz> hi guys.. Im a Linux noob  here. I need some help on picking the right book for learning UBUNTU. I read somewhere that this is a Debian based distro, is that true?
[06:11] <tritium> linner, xorg thinks you have a Riva TNT2
[06:11] <dhonn> what is abi-2.6.12-9-k7
[06:11] <dhonn> ?
[06:11] <tritium> D1, sleep suspends to ram.  Hibernate suspends to disk
[06:11] <bjron> kycz, yes, that's drue
[06:11] <D1> ok, gotcha.
[06:11] <Fallacy> kycz: your better off learning about linux in general then just ubuntu
[06:11] <tritium> kycz, start with http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[06:11] <kycz> SO that means I can get a book about Debian GNU
[06:12] <kycz> I just want to know the core concept of the OS
[06:12] <durt> dkm and shekhar, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24331
[06:12] <tritium> kycz, there's also the Debian Reference, available online
[06:12] <th4tba5t4rd> hey, does anyone in here use BitchX?
[06:13] <bjron> kycz, yea probably, I don't know a good one tho; I learned all the stuff I know from reading online stuff and playing with it
[06:13] <Amaranth> th4tba5t4rd: nope but it's fun to talk about ;)
[06:13] <kycz> ok thanks
[06:13] <th4tba5t4rd> lol. i didn't think so. i use Xchat for my regular irc, but would like to just run this channel on my desktop terminal
[06:13] <tritium> linner, ping
[06:14] <kycz> I know there's gotta be some online but I just can't find it. I guess I need to check out the website first
[06:14] <Fallacy> tritium: sorry about my delay's but the pc is upstairs, so i have to run up and down etc
[06:14] <Amaranth> th4tba5t4rd: irssi is better than bitchx
[06:14] <tritium> kycz, go to the wiki URL I sent you to
[06:14] <Amaranth> th4tba5t4rd: i do know that at least
[06:14] <cesarin> th4tba5t4rd, : tried some instructions to add the FAT32 partition, but it says "mount: the special dispositive /dev/hda4 doesnt exist"
[06:14] <bjron> kycz, the ubuntu website and forums are a good place to start I think
[06:14] <Fallacy> and i didnt have firefox open during install
[06:14] <kycz> most of my Office apps depends on windows right now
[06:14] <tritium> and the Debian Reference can be found from www.debian.org
[06:14] <kycz> tritium: Im checking on o
[06:14] <kycz> tritium: Im checking on it now
[06:15] <dkm> shekhar: this thread contains some information, some people claim you should disable ESD: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24331&page=2&pp=10&highlight=realplayer
[06:15] <durt> dkm, ya here me?
[06:16] <kycz> I am waiting on my nic card for my ubuntu system so I can play with it. I setup a kvm on 2 boxes which I think is the best thing to do instead of dual booting
[06:16] <cesarin> nevermind it worked
[06:16] <cesarin> just a typoo
[06:16] <esac> so i think im giving up on ubuntu. i can't get _anything_ done because it is always freezing on me
[06:16] <fredforfaen> what program stands for mounting usb storage , usbpenn cd's dvd's and so on?
[06:17] <tritium> kycz, only if you want to spend the money for two machines rather than 1
[06:17] <kycz> I got it from junk shop
[06:17] <bjron> kycz, also ubuntuguide.org is a nice resource
[06:17] <tritium> !tell bjron about ubuntuguide
[06:17] <kycz> ubuntuguide.org is straightforward help if u already know linux
[06:18] <kycz> I dont even know how to install and the file system structures
[06:18] <dabar> kycz: install what? programs?
[06:18] <kycz> I still have a lot to learn although Ive spent much reading Fedora Core already but didnt enjoy using it
[06:18] <kycz> yes programs
[06:18] <kycz> and where to put them
[06:19] <bjron> tritium, well I've found it useful in the past, nice to hear breezy will have something better and built in :(
[06:19] <bjron> err :)
[06:19] <dabar> those things ubotu sent you tell you about how to install things. and where to install from.
[06:19] <tritium> bjron, yes, the documentation is progressing nicely
[06:20] <cesarin> I think Wiki's needs a bit of job :P
[06:20] <dabar> go ahead.
[06:20] <dkm> durt: thanks, looking now
[06:20] <dabar> and, the ' symbol is used for contrctions it is nice wather outside>it's nice ... and for showing owenership dabaR's grammar is superior:)))
[06:21] <ubuntu> Hi guys
[06:21] <dkm> durt: does disabling ESD mean i can't use other sound apps?
[06:21] <alex__> I downloaded Ubuntu last night, and I have no clue how to get mp3s working.  Anyone have any ideas?
[06:21] <shekhar> dkm, did you try that ubuntuforums procedure?
[06:22] <tritium> !tell alex__ about mp3
[06:22] <zenlunatic> whats the easiest way to get a kubuntu desktop on a breezy install?
[06:22] <ubuntu> Is it possible to have window and Ubuntu on 1 HD ?
[06:22] <tritium> zenlunatic, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:22] <dabar> kubuntu-desktop, you mean? the package that installs all kde packages specifc to kubuntu?
[06:23] <tritium> ubuntu, yep
[06:23] <ph00> My printer used to work under ubuntu, now it won't print a thing
[06:23] <linner> tritium wasn't sure if i flooded and you couldn't see my PM
[06:23] <linner> tritium, not trying to rush you by any means
[06:23] <linner> can anyone see my typing?
[06:23] <linner> hello?
[06:23] <linner> oh okay you can see me
[06:23] <linner> tritium, like i was saying that's not the monitor i'm using
[06:23] <dkm> shekhar - well i want to know what effects disabling esd will have
[06:23] <linner> tritium, that's my desktop monitor
[06:23] <linner> tritium, i'm trying to get my laptop monitor going
[06:23] <linner> tritium, i've been typing back all the responses from the laptop output... i'm typing now on my linux desktop
[06:23] <linner> kycz, yes it is a debian based distro
[06:23] <linner> tritium, either i didn't understand what you were asking me to do or you're not understanding what i'm trying to accomplish
[06:23] <drbombay43> yellow all: where can I find the kernel sources?, I'm trying to install ndiswrapper, on Hoary, please help?
[06:23] <linner> kycz, that would make sense to me
[06:23] <linner> pardon?
[06:24] <linner> pong?
[06:24] <linner> ;)
[06:24] <linner> tritium, I didn't understand your message "ping" to me
[06:24] <linner> tritium, what's my next step?
[06:24] <linner> hi there
[06:24] <linner> tritium, the server output tells me there is a fatal server error: caught signal 4.  Server aborting
[06:24] <ubuntu> tritium, how do i go about doing it to enure that Window will not lost while installing Ubuntu?
[06:24] <Amaranth> linner: Someone saying 'ping' to you is saying they want your attention, you should 'pong' them when you see it.
[06:24] <ph00> My printer used to work under ubuntu, now it won't print a thing
[06:25] <tritium> ubuntu, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[06:25] <linner> Amaranth, oh
[06:25] <linner> tritium, pong
[06:25] <ubuntu> Thanks buddy :)
[06:25] <linner> Amaranth, thank you...
[06:25] <dabar> haha
[06:25] <alex__> ah. thanks tritium
[06:25] <tritium> sure
[06:25] <linner> :)
[06:25] <chris__> tritium, i have installed, apache2, mysql, and phpbb2 how to configure my phpbb2
[06:26] <tritium> no idea, chris__ .  I've not used that.
[06:26] <fmasi> enny one knows a substitute for CircuitMaker???
[06:26] <chris__> thanks
[06:26] <tritium> s/enny/any
[06:26] <fmasi> or if ther if a linux vertion for it
[06:26] <tritium> fmasi, ^
[06:26] <ph00> no one else has had printer problems lately?
[06:27] <tritium> ph00, I ran out of paper...
[06:28] <linner> oops
[06:28] <dabar> linner stops pressing enter:))
[06:28] <tristanmike> I'm not that funny
[06:28] <ph00> dabar : hehe
[06:28] <dkm> thanks for the help all - bye
[06:29] <fmasi> how to instal win32codecs i dont find them
[06:29] <dabar> why dont ppl stop usinig foo as an exampl in programming?
[06:29] <Amaranth> dabar: Why stop?
[06:29] <dabar> The creative factor
[06:30] <Se7h> question
[06:30] <Se7h> wheres the rep file
[06:30] <dabar> I did not se a ?
[06:30] <Se7h> ?
[06:30] <dabar> ok
[06:30] <Se7h> (i forgot)
[06:30] <Amaranth> dabar: meh, everyone knows when you see foo that it's a simple example
[06:30] <dabar> Se7h: whats a rep file?
[06:30] <Se7h> the conf file for the repositories
[06:30] <Se7h> ma bad
[06:31] <tritium> /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:31] <dabar>  /etc/apt/sou<tab>
[06:31] <Se7h> apt
[06:31] <Se7h> thgats it
[06:31] <Se7h> ty
[06:31] <alex__> what do you guys use to download music?
[06:31] <dabar> money:)) no not really. gtk-gnutella
[06:31] <tritium> alex__, iTunes
[06:31] <alex__> will that be in synaptic?
[06:31] <alex__> haha itunes
[06:31] <tritium> no, no.
[06:31] <cesarin> btw, whats the name of synaptic package for quicktime codec?
[06:31] <alex__> a bit costly
[06:32] <tritium> alex__, I don't steal music
[06:32] <alex__> i guess that's where you and i differ
[06:32] <tritium> alex__, sorry to hear that.  Please don't discuss the theft of music here
[06:33] <dabar> alex__: be aware that it is likely illegal where you are.
[06:33] <alex__> okay.  i went to the gtk-gnutella site, and there's no option for ubuntu.  what version should i download?
[06:34] <cesarin> dabar,  by any chance you know how to open a .MOV ( quicktime file ) movie in ubuntu?
[06:34] <cesarin> TOTEM doesnt seem to open it
[06:34] <Amaranth> alex__: synaptic knows all
[06:34] <dabar> double click. I use xine
[06:34] <misfit_toy> cesarin, w32codecs
[06:34] <kycz> can I export my bookmarks from frifox windows to ubuntu?
[06:34] <kycz> firefox*
[06:34] <cesarin> misfit_toy,  already got it, but still cant see the file
[06:34] <cesarin> totem gives me an error
[06:34] <Amaranth> Davey: don't suppose you've using mcrypt in C before. :)
[06:35] <alex__> synaptic doesn't know this
[06:35] <ubuntu> Do i have to use any anti-virus on Ubuntu? :/
[06:35] <dabar> alex__: does not know about universe
[06:35] <cesarin> "there are no decoders found to handle this stream"
[06:35] <misfit_toy> cesarin, what file?
[06:35] <Davey> Amaranth, never even used C before ;)
[06:35] <cesarin> misfit_toy,  a .MOV file
[06:36] <misfit_toy> cesarin, give me the link
[06:36] <Amaranth> Davey: wow, that's odd :)
[06:36] <dabar> alex__: as ubotu told you, you should do this /msg ubotu info gtk-gnutell to get info about a package, that is called gtk-gnutella
[06:36] <Scholar_Gypsy> hi, has anyone tried firefox 1.0.7 on Ubuntu?
[06:36] <Amaranth> Davey: i'm being forced to use it, otherwise i'd stick to python
[06:36] <Davey> Amaranth, not really :)
[06:36] <dabar> alex__: dont get us all banned, go find it.
[06:36] <alex__> oh okay
[06:36] <cesarin> misfit_toy,  its not on a site
[06:36] <alex__> i'm on a mission!
[06:36] <misfit_toy> wait, I want to be banned today!
[06:36] <misfit_toy> include me on bannage3
[06:37] <misfit_toy> *bannage
[06:37] <tritium> why would you want that, misfit_toy ?
[06:37] <cesarin> give me a min, I think I got the link somewhere...
[06:37] <dabar> se ya
[06:37] <tritium> bye
[06:37] <linner> bye trit
[06:37] <misfit_toy> sheesh
[06:37] <glick> howdy
[06:37] <dabar> hey glick
[06:37] <misfit_toy> this is one hoppin' channel
[06:37] <signbarn> is anyone here using breezy?
[06:37] <glick> hi dabar
[06:38] <misfit_toy> they ask you a question then bail
[06:38] <misfit_toy> weird
[06:38] <linner> I don't think I'll ever get Breezy OR hoary on my laptop.................
[06:38] <misfit_toy> linner, I have done both
[06:38] <renjii> hi, i am getting this error when I try to install mirc using wine http://rafb.net/paste/results/FU0fUJ31.html
[06:38] <propagandhi83> i use breezt
[06:38] <misfit_toy> linner, what kind or laptop?
[06:38] <propagandhi83> breezy
[06:38] <linner> this sucks so hard.. i've been trying solidly for a week... looks like i have to go to SuSE
[06:38] <renjii> any idea what i might be doing wrong?
[06:38] <linner> misfit_toy, V2000Z
[06:38] <linner> tritium couldn't figure it out either
[06:38] <renjii> i used apt-get to install wine.
[06:38] <misfit_toy> linner, is that a sony or what?
[06:38] <linner> it's an ATI driver issue
[06:39] <linner> misfit_toy, Compaq] 
[06:39] <glick> linner, whats the problem?
[06:39] <linner> The X Server won't start.
[06:39] <misfit_toy> linner, what's the issue? I have loaded ubuntu on tons of compaq/hp's
[06:39] <glick> linner, whats your card?
[06:39] <linner> this one is 2 months old
[06:39] <dabar> renjii: yes, you are trying to install a crappy program on a OS that has cooler programs. irssi is installed by default, try it out in a terminal.
[06:39] <linner> tritium thinks its because it's too new
[06:39] <signbarn> linner: won't start on a base install?
[06:39] <cesarin> linner: what error you get? :o
[06:40] <linner> signbarn, no
[06:40] <alex__> suhweet. i'm a white a hat hacker!
[06:40] <linner> the last one says this
[06:40] <cesarin> dabar,  I still like mIRC myself :P
[06:40] <linner> Fatal server error:  Caught signal 4.  Server aborting.
[06:40] <linner> that's in my Xorg.conf log
[06:40] <cesarin> linner,  there should be way more than that
[06:40] <propagandhi83> renjii -  do u have libstdc++.so.5 on your system or a symbolic link for it
[06:40] <renjii> dabar - err...thanks for the suggestion...i use irssi,xchat,kopete and gaim to connect to irc- but in this case, a friend of mine needs to run some scripts available only on mIrc ...
[06:40] <glick> linner, what does it say right before that
[06:40] <cesarin> I tought hackers used Bitch-X ?
[06:41] <linner> glick, i just clicked out of it
[06:41] <misfit_toy> linner, onboard graphics or pci?
[06:41] <linner> onboard
[06:41] <alex__> man. you guys are insanely helpful
[06:41] <linner> I think
[06:41] <alex__> i love you all
[06:41] <linner> it's a laptop
[06:41] <linner> alex__, I know they are :)
[06:41] <renjii> ah, tht might be the problem....since its a .so file, i dont know how to install it...is it available directly on apt-get?
[06:41] <misfit_toy> linner, k
[06:41] <Scholar_Gypsy> can anyone help me fix my firefox?
[06:41] <dabar> alex__: we dont like you in the least haha!
[06:41] <cesarin> Scholar_Gypsy, : what happens?
[06:41] <Scholar_Gypsy> arpan@garfield:~/MyDownloads/firefox-installer$ firefox
[06:41] <Scholar_Gypsy> (firefox-bin:10971): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib
[06:41] <Scholar_Gypsy> (firefox-bin:10971): Gdk-WARNING **: cannot set locale modifiers
[06:41] <Scholar_Gypsy> arpan@garfield:~/MyDownloads/firefox-installer$
[06:41] <linner> misfit_toy, it's a laptop so i would assume onboard
[06:41] <Scholar_Gypsy> i get this error
[06:41] <linner> how do i find out?
[06:42] <Scholar_Gypsy> i dont know how it happened!
[06:42] <propagandhi83> renjii - u should have libstdc++.so.6 - make a symbolic link in /usr/lib named libstdc++.so.5 pointing to the libstdc++.so.6 or whatever
[06:42] <linner> misfit_toy, how do I find out?
[06:42] <cesarin> Scholar_Gypsy, : you sure you downloaded the correct version? o_O
[06:42] <signbarn> linner: if you know your make and model, you could look up the specs online :-) or tell me and i'll give it a looksee
[06:42] <linner> the error before i go back to the command line is "The X Serer is now disabled.  Restart GDM when it is configured correctly.
[06:42] <Scholar_Gypsy> cesarin, it was running perfectly until yesterday
[06:43] <misfit_toy> linner, it's onboard, a laptop has no other option really
[06:43] <linner> signbarn, it's an ATI 200m
[06:43] <shekhar> durt, are you there? how do i add a symbolic link to realplay script in my path?
[06:43] <linner> misfit_toy, that's what i thought
[06:43] <Scholar_Gypsy> i don't know what happened this morning
[06:43] <linner> signbarn, thank you very much though... that was very nice :)
[06:43] <misfit_toy> linner,  ATI, ok, hold on
[06:43] <Scholar_Gypsy> i was using firefox 1.0.6
[06:43] <CaptainMorgan> holy shit
[06:44] <linner> misfit_toy, if you can fix this... I owe you HUGE!!!  I've had nearly ever channel op try to help to no avail..........
[06:44] <CaptainMorgan> I have a 1280x1024 Ubuntu Laptop
[06:44] <CaptainMorgan> !
[06:44] <ubotu> I don't know, CaptainMorgan
[06:44] <CaptainMorgan> !!!!!!!
[06:44] <linner> CaptainMorgan, you got it loaded???
[06:44] <ubotu> CaptainMorgan: Do they come in packets of five?
[06:44] <linner> CaptainMorgan, that's wonderful!!!!!
[06:44] <me> help i need wine for ubuntu. where can i get it and what version?
[06:44] <CaptainMorgan> :)
[06:44] <dabaR> in universe.
[06:44] <linner> me,  use the synaptic
[06:44] <cesarin> Scholar_Gypsy, : no idea to be honest, never seen that error before
[06:45] <linner> and type in the search box wine
[06:45] <cesarin> Scholar_Gypsy,  maybe if you uninstall 1.0.6 and install the 1.0.7?
[06:45] <linner> make sure you have universe and mulitverse
[06:45] <dabaR> me, change your nick so I can use ubotu on you.
[06:45] <CaptainMorgan> it's amazing.. truly
[06:45] <Scholar_Gypsy> r u on 1.0.7?
[06:45] <CaptainMorgan> Sorry, ubuntu's features blows win out of the buidling
[06:45] <linner> CaptainMorgan, you finally got the driver loaded????
[06:45] <linner> CaptainMorgan, what did you do to get it done?
[06:45] <CaptainMorgan> not sure what I did to be honest
[06:45] <Scholar_Gypsy> actually, i have d'loaded it but dont know how to uninstall .6 and install .7
[06:46] <misfit_toy>  linner give me your issue in one sentence
[06:46] <linner> X server won't start
[06:46] <linner> i can't get in ubuntu
[06:46] <propagandhi83> linner - whats the error
[06:46] <CaptainMorgan> Im docked.. the external monitor doesn't display correctly yet...but I disconnected and my laptop itself has a wonderful res now.
[06:46] <me> help i need wine for ubuntu. where can i get it and what version?
[06:46] <linner> propagandhi83, I forgot let me reboot and tell you
[06:46] <misfit_toy> linner that is not specific, give us the error
[06:46] <CaptainMorgan> editing X server was very helpful..
[06:46] <signbarn> i had some X server problems recently that i assume were due to the kernel restricted modules
[06:46] <linner> ok wait one
[06:46] <propagandhi83> ok
[06:47] <linner> signbarn, this colony5 downloaded from last night
[06:47] <renjii> propagandhi83 - ok, now this may sound like a dumb question (and prolly is ;) - but where do I find the target file for stdc++.so.5?
[06:47] <misfit_toy> and...linner have you googled *any* of this?
[06:47] <linner> only been in this channel
[06:47] <robotgeek> anyone use amarok in here?
[06:47] <misfit_toy> robotgeek, yes
[06:48] <robotgeek> misfit_toy: do u know how to change the shortcuts for win + x ?
[06:48] <glick> damn how can i make my gnome look like this...http://www.1stech.net/rambo/4.png
[06:48] <alex__> gtk-gnutella is shit
[06:48] <linner> misfit_toy, it's booting the kernel
[06:48] <misfit_toy> robotgeek, no idea
[06:48] <propagandhi83> renjii - 'locate libstdc++'
[06:48] <robotgeek> misfit_toy: that was my shortcut for laucnhing an xterm :(
[06:48] <propagandhi83> and the library will be libstdc++.so.6 or similar
[06:48] <Dr_Fate> Damnit, when are the Ubuntu DEV going to get the idea that roms need DMA at startup?
[06:48] <signbarn> linner: did you have it running at all ever?
[06:49] <linner> misfit_toy, here's the error:  failed to start the X Server (your graphical interface).  It is likely that it is not set up correctly.  Would you like to view the server output?
[06:49] <Scholar_Gypsy> can anyone help me install firefox 1.0.7?
[06:49] <linner> signbarn, never on my laptop
[06:49] <linner> SuSE10 I did
[06:49] <linner> but hated YaST
[06:49] <alex__> scholar, doesn't ubuntu come with it loaded on?
[06:49] <Scholar_Gypsy> i also want to uninstall 1.0.6
[06:49] <propagandhi83> linner - run the xorgcfg script
[06:49] <Dr_Fate> This is my 3rd Ubuntu, and each install, I have to manually enable DMA for my CDROMS, for Godsake WHY?
[06:49] <tristamgreen> strange after i loaded ubuntu i was no longer able to read ntfs partitions
[06:49] <misfit_toy> linner, have you even read http://ubuntuforums.org ?
[06:49] <linner> propagandhi83, what's taht?
[06:49] <tristamgreen> but with even suse 9.0 i was
[06:49] <cesarin> Scholar_Gypsy,  you dont use the synaptic?
[06:49] <Scholar_Gypsy> cesarin, i do, nbut there i am unable to even uninstall 1.0.6
[06:50] <propagandhi83> theres an xorgcfg script that will re-write the xorg.conf
[06:50] <linner> misfit_toy, I don't know anything about linux
[06:50] <Scholar_Gypsy> want me to show u the error msg?
[06:50] <Scholar_Gypsy> alex__, ubuntu (hoary) comes with 1.0.2
[06:50] <glick> is that all gdesklets?
[06:50] <linner> propagandhi83, can you tell me how do to do that?
[06:50] <Scholar_Gypsy> i dont know about breezy
[06:50] <propagandhi83> yeah, let me find the path first
[06:50] <alex__> oh
[06:50] <linner> propagandhi83, oh god thank you :)
[06:50] <cesarin> thats quite weird.. o_O
[06:51] <linner> should I view the x server output?
[06:51] <cesarin> misfit_toy,  you managed to see the video fiel?
[06:51] <Scholar_Gypsy> cesarin, here it is: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/var/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions.d/00classic', which is also in package firefox
[06:51] <propagandhi83> linner - what branch of ubuntu are you using
[06:51] <linner> colony 5
[06:51] <linner> breezy .. sorry
[06:52] <Scholar_Gypsy> this is when i try to uninstall. the reinstall feature is disabled
[06:52] <cesarin> Scholar_Gypsy, sadly, I cant help you, Im not that experienced myself to handle these kind of problems x_X
[06:52] <me> help i need wine for ubuntu. where can i get it and what version?
[06:52] <Shaoqi> anyone know how to type other characters, other than english, i want to type chinese character.
[06:52] <dabaR> me change your nick, so I can use ubotu on you.
[06:52] <propagandhi83> hmm, i am also using colony 5 and i cant find the xorgconfig script, it mustnt be in yet, try 'locate xorgcfg'
[06:52] <propagandhi83> but mine turned up nothing
[06:53] <linner> should i view the x server output"?
[06:53] <misfit_toy> linner, follow this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&highlight=Restart+GDM+configured+correctly
[06:53] <linner> misfit_toy, ok
[06:53] <dabaR> there, you can be you again.
[06:53] <dabaR> zarryboy: where you from>
[06:53] <misfit_toy> dabaR, deja vu
[06:53] <propagandhi83> linner - otherwise, i'm guessing if you do read your xorg.conf, what is in it
[06:53] <BodaciousB> is there any reason to not download breezy and install that now? rather than just install my hoary
[06:54] <steely> me:  www.winehq.com/site/download-deb - 16k
[06:54] <dabaR> BodaciousB: I do not think so.
[06:54] <misfit_toy> BodaciousB, go for breezy, it's really nice
[06:54] <CaptainMorgan> holy Shit!
[06:54] <BodaciousB> yeah it seems loaded...
[06:54] <steely> minus the - 16k
[06:54] <steely> hehe
[06:54] <CaptainMorgan> my external monitor is working now
[06:54] <dabaR> CaptainMorgan: you can stop swearing
[06:54] <BodaciousB> i just put fedora on... its harder to use than Slack
[06:54] <radiodog> is breezy stable/released for amd64?
[06:54] <CaptainMorgan> dudes... Im telling you - X server did the trick
[06:54] <dabaR> radiodog: no, on Oct 13.
[06:54] <CaptainMorgan> shit a swear? lol
[06:55] <steely> hehe
[06:55] <radiodog> dabaR: thanks
[06:55] <CaptainMorgan> linner - have you looked into the X server ?
[06:56] <dabaR> misfit_toy: kids can use IRC, and swear, and its annoying.
[06:56] <misfit_toy> dabaR, in that instance the kids must be killed immediately
[06:56] <dabaR> agreed.
[06:56] <steely> what can adults do
[06:56] <misfit_toy> steely, kill the kids
[06:56] <dabaR> stop swearing for one. and also that.
[06:56] <steely> excellent
[06:56] <linner|AWAY> misfit_toy, what kernel version do I have?
[06:57] <dabaR> haha
[06:57] <misfit_toy> I mean if I say sh|t
[06:57] <BodaciousB> im downlaoding breezy
[06:57] <misfit_toy> and mispell it like that, is that ok, or what? I've been online for 20 years and now people are telling me I can't be ME online, it's getting stupid.
[06:57] <narg> heh... any kid over the ages of 7 hears more swear words in school every day than they'll ever find in freenode :)
[06:58] <misfit_toy> linner, type uname -r
[06:58] <procrastinationn> hey
[06:58] <linner> ok
[06:58] <steely> narg:  from substitute teachers
[06:58] <dabaR> so, they come to freenode as an escape from all the swearing at school, and what do we do? enforce it on them.
[06:58] <misfit_toy> linner, that will tell you what kernel
[06:58] <linner> thank you :)
[06:58] <dabaR> later
[06:58] <Shaoqi> anyone know how to type other characters, other than english, i want to type chinese character.
[06:59] <procrastinationn> Verify that the directory that it downloads maps to is chmoded for access by your user!  how do i do that?
[06:59] <narg> Shaoqi: You can change your keyboard layout, or some programs let you pick from a list (OO.o), or find the obscure keyboard combination for it.
[07:00] <CaptainMorgan> lol
[07:00] <dabaR> Shaoqi: #ubuntu-zh
[07:00] <procrastinationn> it wont let me down load maps unless i do this Verify that the directory that it downloads maps to is chmoded for access by your user!
[07:01] <CaptainMorgan> shit no
[07:01] <cesarin> bbl, gotta restart, just reinstalled today's kernels & stuff
[07:01] <CaptainMorgan> IRC - I ril cwear if I want
[07:01] <narg> ... thats possibly the worst spelling I've seen all day.
[07:02] <dabaR> Life - live ike a F.Moron efyouwantto
[07:02] <dabaR> night
[07:02] <CaptainMorgan> babye
[07:02] <CaptainMorgan> pansy azz biatch. :) learn to chill dude
[07:02] <CaptainMorgan> Linner: any progress
[07:03] <CaptainMorgan> ?
[07:03] <durt> go back to africa
[07:03] <Cryptid> Please!!.... can ne 1 gimme the page where details how to add extra repositories are given
[07:03] <durt> ubuntuguide.org
[07:03] <durt> or .com or something
[07:03] <Amaranth> CaptainMorgan: Please do not use profanity in this channel.
[07:04] <Sonny_Wertzik> Cryptid, 1 sec...yes
[07:04] <robotgeek> n/nick robotgeek_away
[07:04] <robotgeek> sorry
[07:04] <Cryptid> Sonny_werzik http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto  i got it
[07:04] <CaptainMorgan> well, since you asked nicely
[07:05] <Amaranth> btw guys, if you need an op (sorry doing something wrong) just say '!op' and ubotu will spit out all of their names which makes computers beep and flash and such
[07:05] <D1> even more weirdness
[07:05] <Amaranth> or was it !ops?
[07:05] <Amaranth> !ops
[07:05] <D1> it looks like my battery was fixed in the last breezy kernel update
[07:05] <ubotu> methinks ops is Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth
[07:05] <Amaranth> ok, it's !ops
[07:05] <Sonny_Wertzik> Cryptid, amd 64 repositories ok?
[07:05] <CaptainMorgan> way to be KILLJOY folks!
[07:05] <D1> anyone run a buggy dsdt laptop that now magically works after updating breezy?
[07:05] <paladin2> Hi all!  Good work on Breezy.  I've got a problem getting hardware acceleration to work, though.  At least I think I do - the frame rate was much higher before.  In fact glxgears doesn't even display a framerate...  nvidia-glx drivers installed, allowcomposite on, renderaccell true, etc.  Any other tips or people having this problem?
[07:06] <Amaranth> CaptainMorgan: Nothing wrong with a little fun but profanity offends some people.
[07:06] <Sonny_Wertzik> Cryptid, http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories ------
[07:06] <Cryptid> Sonny_werzik, i am running a x86 canu give me the repostitoires for it (i didnt know that x86 and amd had diffrent repositoies)
[07:06] <durt> glxgears doesnt give me a frame rate either! yay someone else with this problem
[07:07] <paladin2> Yay!!
[07:07] <paladin2> :)
[07:07] <paladin2> Now if someone has an answer... ;)
[07:07] <Sonny_Wertzik> Cryptid, here u go.....http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[07:07] <crimsun> glxgears is a pretty poor application from which to cull framerates anyhow
[07:07] <Amaranth> Cryptid: The repositories are all the same.
[07:07] <hourglass> hi can anyone help me with mounting my hd..i got my ubuntu installed on my primary slave...and my other hd on as the primary master..can anyone help me mount the primary master..
[07:08] <paladin2> It just seems it was the default for most tests.
[07:08] <Dark_Sith> morning people
[07:08] <durt> ugh it is morning i better go to bed
[07:08] <propagandhi83> hourglass - you'll need to add it to /etc/fstab for permanent mounting - what filesystem is on that drive
[07:08] <renjii> propagandhi83 - cant find it :S is it possibel that the libstdc++5 might not have been installed at all?
[07:08] <Sonny_Wertzik> Where can i add an     hdparm -d1 /dev/dvd and have it load on boot?
[07:09] <hourglass> its fat32.. partitioned 50% and 50%
[07:09] <propagandhi83> renjii - do u have any version of libstdc++
[07:09] <renjii> i wouldnt know whether I installed it or not- cause its not my computer that Ubuntu is installed on....thats what I'll get him to do then...first install libstdc
[07:09] <linner|AWAY> misfit_toy, ok... i read most of it until the part of "Cut and paste the configuration there into the relevant sections of your xorg.conf file" - I don't know what's relavent and what's not... dude, I'm extremely new!!!
[07:09] <propagandhi83> renjii - a lot of programs use libstdc++
[07:10] <propagandhi83> so i'd assume there would be some version
[07:10] <Sonny_Wertzik> propagandhi83, are u talking to me??                     /etc/fstab ??
[07:10] <hourglass> propagandhi83-primary master is on FAT32  and partitioned 50/50
[07:10] <propagandhi83> Sonny_Wertzik - no i was speaking to hourglass
[07:11] <Sonny_Wertzik> oh hehe
[07:11] <D1> good question, I need to add hdparm somewhere too
[07:11] <propagandhi83> hourglass - what is the disk configuration (fdisk -l )
[07:11] <D1> makes things ALOT faster.
[07:12] <crimsun> libstdc++.so.5 would be in libstdc++5
[07:12] <Sonny_Wertzik> D1, ya i tried hdparm.conf but it doesnt work on boot ..it goes back to default even tho its listed in hdparm.conf
[07:12] <hourglass> sorry im a newbie..howd would i know wat disk config is it?
[07:12] <D1> hmm
[07:13] <Cryptid> Amaranth & Sonny_wertzik thanx for the help
[07:13] <propagandhi83> hourglass - run fdisk -l
[07:13] <Sonny_Wertzik> Cryptid, your welcome
[07:13] <linner> misfit_toy, could you please help me with editing the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4: file
[07:13] <propagandhi83> and the fat disk will be shown
[07:13] <linner> or anyone help me with it... please
[07:13] <Sonny_Wertzik> Cryptid, hope it was what you needed
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> hmm.. the latest ubuntu uses xorg.conf  i thought
[07:14] <linner> Dr_Willis, well, misfit_toy sent me to this site http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&highlight=Restart+GDM+configured+correctly
[07:14] <hourglass> propagandhi83 what would be the next step?
[07:14] <propagandhi83> linner - we'd need to know a) what video car b) what max resolution c) horizontal and vertical sync for your monitor to do that
[07:14] <linner> which in turn led me to this site: http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html#install
[07:14] <linner> i know a and b but not c
[07:15] <Se7h> :o cute
[07:15] <Se7h> 10m to upgrade to breezy
[07:15] <linner> propagandhi83, i know a and b but not c
[07:15] <propagandhi83> hourglass - ok, so ur fat partitions should be /dev/hdx1 where x is a letter a or b normally
[07:15] <Sonny_Wertzik> whats so good about breezy over hoarty?
[07:15] <propagandhi83> linner - what is your monitor
[07:15] <crimsun> Sonny_Wertzik: pop in a live cd and find out
[07:15] <linner> it's an LCD panel for a laptop
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> linner,  you edit the xorg config file and replace 'ati' with 'flgrx' mainly is all i had to do - after installing the ati modules/drivers
[07:15] <propagandhi83> what resolution
[07:16] <Sonny_Wertzik> heh is it that much of a diff?
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> BUT on a laptop - what chipset does it hgave for video.
[07:16] <linner> ATI 200m
[07:16] <crimsun> Sonny_Wertzik: you won't know til you try it
[07:16] <hourglass> propagandhi83 then ...is that the part i mount /dev/hda /media/windows
[07:16] <linner> AMD Turion 64 m7-137
[07:16] <Sonny_Wertzik> heh your answers are cryptic
[07:16] <propagandhi83> linner - first tell us what is currently in /etc/X11/corg.conf
[07:16] <linner> oops ml-37
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> linlin,  I got that working on my laptop. SUprisingly. :P with the  5.10 prerelesase.
[07:16] <linner> do you mean xorg?
[07:17] <propagandhi83> linner - yes sorry
[07:17] <linner> Dr_Willis, ok... there's hope yes
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> it works very well so far on my Compat V2311
[07:17] <linner> propagandhi83, no worries just want to make sure i'm doing it right
[07:17] <crimsun> Sonny_Wertzik: how are they cryptic? so much has changed between hoary and breezy that it'd take a while for me to begin to list the updates
[07:17] <Sonny_Wertzik> if it was faster in 64 bit i would but a live cd isnt a good testbed
[07:17] <linner> how do i bring up the file to edit?  what command?
[07:17] <nomasteryoda> very well on my Dell D505 and Dell 4150 laptops
[07:17] <Sonny_Wertzik> really!?
[07:17] <misfit_toy> linner, it's very hard to blow it up so bad that you can't fix it, so follow instructions and DO IT
[07:17] <propagandhi83> hourglass - if you want it permanently mounted, you need to add something like mount -t vfat /dev/hdxX /mnt/vfat to /etc/fstab
[07:17] <nomasteryoda> both 32bit, but good
[07:18] <Sonny_Wertzik> maybe i will check it out then
[07:18] <nomasteryoda> good luck
[07:18] <propagandhi83> linner - try 'nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> backup up your working/existing xorg. config  FIRST
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:18] <linner> propagandhi83, is it less then /etc/X11/corg.conf
[07:18] <linner> ok
[07:18] <bam_> anyone got experience in setting up samba with the zaurus
[07:18] <linner> ok propagandhi83 it's up
[07:18] <propagandhi83> linner - dont edit the file
[07:18] <linner> Dr_Willis, i did that :)
[07:19] <propagandhi83> just need to know whats in it
[07:19] <Sonny_Wertzik> hourglass,  i have a page with detailed instructions on how to mout temp or perminatly if u want it?
[07:19] <linner> ok
[07:19] <misfit_toy> linner, sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf xorg.conf.orig
[07:19] <glick> is anyone using gdesklet starterbar?
[07:19] <misfit_toy> linner, then sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and do your changes
[07:19] <propagandhi83> linner - can u  paste it to http://rafb.net/paste
[07:20] <linner> no... it's on another machine
[07:20] <linner> :(
[07:20] <propagandhi83> linner -  are you familiar with ssh
[07:20] <misfit_toy> l8r ya'll
[07:20] <linner> no
[07:20] <linner> :(
[07:20] <linner> by misfit_toy thanks anwyay
[07:20] <linner> anyway
[07:20] <propagandhi83> ok, well, we really need to see whats in there
[07:21] <propagandhi83> linner - whats the model of laptop and the max screen resolution
[07:21] <linner> tritium had me looking for EEs
[07:21] <linner> propagandhi83, V2000Z and... let me find out
[07:22] <linner> hold on ... going to compaq's website
[07:23] <paladin2> Hey again - is anyone having problems with hardware acceleration with the nvidia drivers under breezy?
[07:23] <linner> propagandhi83, Display (projector) diagonal size  	14 in
[07:23] <linner> Display (projector) technology 	TFT active matrix
[07:23] <linner> Max resolution 	1280 x 768
[07:23] <SAAVIRTUAL> hi
[07:23] <glick> anyone?
[07:23] <linner> propagandhi83, is that what you were looking for?
[07:23] <cesarin> anyone knows whats the easiest way to add shortcuts to the breezy's desktop?
[07:23] <durt> paladin2, does it not work or is it just not good?
[07:23] <paladin2> sorry glick - nope.  Could never, ever get gdesklets to work.  Ever.
[07:23] <glick> hmm
[07:24] <paladin2> It's no good - I used to get really fast framerates before, and now it's just blah.
[07:24] <propagandhi83> linner - theres an xorg.conf file posted on this forum http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=343891
[07:24] <D1> god I love breezy
[07:24] <propagandhi83> linner - try making yours identical to that and then reboot
[07:24] <D1> neutrino 0.8.4 is there. =] 
[07:24] <linner> propagandhi83, ok... i'll give it a whirl
[07:25] <nomasteryoda> cesarin, holding shift+ctrl down and drag-n-drop
[07:25] <cesarin> nomasteryoda,  that works for applications that are on the "APPLICATIONS" start menu of gnome?
[07:26] <cesarin> nomasteryoda,  nevermind, it works :>
[07:26] <benh> argh ! au.archive.ubuntu.com is gone to lunch
[07:28] <propagandhi83> linner - i'd also refer to http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=310839#post310839 - bottom of that page
[07:28] <Dark_Sith> how do i add the multiverse repositories for breezy?
[07:28] <benh> Dark_Sith: click "add" in synaptic gui ? :)
[07:29] <Dark_Sith> benh: but which url do i use?
[07:29] <bam_> hey is breezy out of testing yet
[07:29] <propagandhi83> Dark_Sith - uncomment the lines in /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:29] <bur[n] er> bam_: not for a bit yet
[07:29] <bam_> bummer
[07:29] <bam_> been wanting to try
[07:29] <bur[n] er> it'll be out soon enough
[07:29] <benh> Dark_Sith: well, synaptic comes preconfigured with appropriate urls for me
[07:30] <bam_> i will wait then
[07:30] <bur[n] er> there's always the preview cds, but if you've never used ubuntu, wait for the release :)  or use Hoary
[07:30] <Dark_Sith> propagandhi83: i did that for the universe repositories, but there is none for multiverse
[07:30] <linner> propagandhi83, may I pm you?
[07:30] <cesarin> thanks all for the help!
[07:30] <nybble> night all
[07:31] <propagandhi83> woops, right u are Dark_Sith
[07:31] <propagandhi83> linner - what for me to log on again first
[07:31] <linner> ok
[07:32] <claire> Are some of the repositories down?
[07:33] <teenie> how to install acrobat reader?
[07:33] <locomorto> teenie:
[07:33] <locomorto> sudo apt-get install acroread
[07:34] <locomorto> sudo apt-get install acroread-plugin if you want it in firefox
[07:34] <claire> locomorto, are some of the repositories down?
[07:34] <teenie> ok
[07:34] <locomorto> claire: use a mirror
[07:34] <claire> locomorto, ??
[07:34] <locomorto> claire: my isp rocks, they have a mirror of them :D
[07:34] <Cryptid> Please help!!!!how do i install the Java on my computer using Apt-get.
[07:34] <D1> anyone have any other hdparm parameters to add than -d1?
[07:34] <teenie> how about both?
[07:34] <D1> that could considerably help
[07:34] <teenie> acroread in plugin?
[07:34] <locomorto> teenie: just install the second one
[07:35] <teenie> ok
[07:35] <claire> locomorto, im trying to use Ubuntu Update Manager
[07:35] <locomorto> teenie: it will install the first one as well
[07:35] <linner> wb propagandhi83
[07:35] <teenie> just askin
[07:35] <teenie> hihihi
[07:35] <teenie> ei!! tnx
[07:35] <teenie> can we have sex?
[07:35] <propagandhi83> linner - ok go ahead
[07:35] <linner> oops
[07:35] <locomorto> claire: they should come up soon again
[07:35] <locomorto> claire: try again tommorow
[07:35] <linner> I used the driver from ATI site: ATI Proprietary Linux x86_64 Driver 8.13.6 for Radeon Xpress 200 Series. When I installed the driver, xorg.conf set vesa driver as default, just simply comment the lines using vesa driver and that will force xorg.conf to use fglrx driver (scroll down you will see the fglrx driver section), restart X and screen will show a nice 1280x768 resolution.
[07:35] <claire> locomorto, they are down though?
[07:35] <glick> excuse me how can i get the traditional gnome panel instead of the one that comes with ubuntu
[07:35] <glick> ?
[07:35] <linner> shoot
[07:36] <teenie> how about installing my video card
[07:36] <Dark_Sith> propagandhi83: so any other idea?
[07:36] <TokenBad> anyone know a script for xchat that will post upload and download speeds to xchat?
[07:36] <linner> I used the driver from ATI site: ATI Proprietary Linux x86_64 Driver 8.13.6 for Radeon Xpress 200 Series. When I installed the driver, xorg.conf set vesa driver as default, just simply comment the lines using vesa driver and that will force xorg.conf to use fglrx driver (scroll down you will see the fglrx driver section), restart X and screen will show a nice 1280x768 resolution.
[07:36] <linner> man
[07:36] <ormandj> are the repositories down?
[07:36] <ormandj> us.archive.ubuntu.com and security.ubuntu.com (same ip) both respond to ping but get connection refused on port 80
[07:36] <teenie> locomorto- how about installing wine in ubuntu>?
[07:37] <ormandj> (82.211.81.151)
[07:37] <teenie> can u pls hgelp me!!
[07:37] <teenie> help
[07:37] <locomorto> teenie: check the forums (www.ubuntuforums.org
[07:37] <teenie> i already check
[07:37] <teenie> have u tried dis wine package?
[07:37] <ormandj> could somebody verify? please :)
[07:37] <locomorto> teenie: Did you look in the index of howto?
[07:37] <locomorto> teenie: its old
[07:37] <teenie> yeah
[07:37] <locomorto> teenie: what do you want to run?
[07:38] <teenie> but i cant in my repositories
[07:38] <locomorto> teenie: a game?
[07:38] <teenie> a online games
[07:38] <claire> teenie, are your repositories not working?
[07:38] <locomorto> aha
[07:38] <kenas> ormandj: also getting connection refused
[07:38] <jessNZ> does anyone know if it's possible to share mailboxes between a windows/ubuntu dual-boot system? with thunderbird?
[07:38] <ormandj> kenas: thanks, guess they killed the webserver for some reason. the box is still up
[07:38] <Dark_Sith> how do i add the multiverse repositories for breezy?
[07:38] <teenie> if add the site that forum games me its send an error] 
[07:38] <ormandj> jessNZ: imap
[07:39] <ormandj> Dark_Sith, same way as in hoary, just substitute "breezy" where you see "hoary"
[07:39] <ormandj> ubuntuguide.org
[07:39] <locomorto> !ubuntuguide
[07:39] <ubotu> somebody said ubuntuguide was out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[07:39] <ormandj> locomorto: the information on adding repositories on it is fine
[07:39] <locomorto> besides ubuntuguide is down right now
[07:40] <bam_> its a little out-of -date
[07:40] <ormandj> oh, well, that sucks then ;)
[07:40] <teenie> probably yes...since yesterday
[07:40] <bam_> but helpful none the less
[07:40] <locomorto> Oh, and the the help menu atm is not that great
[07:40] <teenie> but sometimes ubuntuguide is working
[07:40] <locomorto> I'm hoping they haven't uploaded the stuff for it
[07:40] <ormandj> well, considering the repositories are down right now, i suppose it makes no difference :P
[07:40] <locomorto> ormandj: you can use a mirror
[07:41] <teenie> try the other guide.. i think it will help you
[07:41] <bam_> hey I just need to get my samba set up for my zaurus
[07:41] <ormandj> locomorto: yea, that's what i'm going to do ;)
[07:41] <locomorto> http://mirror.optus.net/ubuntu works
[07:41] <ormandj> thank you. :)
[07:41] <locomorto> its my isp too
[07:41] <locomorto> But it is in australia
[07:41] <ormandj> uhm, i refuse to use opttus :P
[07:41] <ormandj> i know
[07:41] <ormandj> better than telstra i guess, but no thanks ;)
[07:41] <teenie> sudo apt-get install samba
[07:41] <nybble> hmm...azureus on breezy... anyone?
[07:41] <jessNZ> ormandj: is there a way to do it using pop, I don't think our ISP offers imap and we just have dial up
[07:41] <locomorto> Yeah, the download for cable can't be beat though
[07:41] <locomorto> beaten*
[07:41] <ormandj> nybble: fix java :)
[07:42] <locomorto> Unless you live in da city
[07:42] <bam_> ive got samba on my z, just need ubuntu to hook up to it
[07:42] <ormandj> nybble: you'll have to get a *working* java installed first. then make sure it's setup properly
[07:42] <cef> any idea when the archives will be back online?
[07:42] <ormandj> cef: no idea, that's what i came in here for
[07:42] <teenie> can anyone here give a ubunt supported chipset of internal modem
[07:42] <ivan901> hi all
[07:42] <ormandj> locomorto: anything in aussieland for broadband stinks :)
[07:42] <bam_> oh yea, and my zen micro refuses to work as well
[07:42] <ormandj> hi zaphod, you the old zaphod from xnet/afterx?
[07:42] <locomorto> ormandj: ADSL2+ is besing rolled out
[07:43] <locomorto> ormandj: At full speeds
[07:43] <ormandj> locomorto: with down/up caps, and bad pricing?
[07:43] <locomorto> ormandj: the pricing is just the same as the old ADSL1 plans
[07:43] <ormandj> when i spent time in AU i ran up hundreds of dollars in bills :P
[07:43] <ormandj> and that's not doing any pirating
[07:43] <ormandj> i'd hate to see pirates :P
[07:43] <locomorto> lol
[07:44] <ivan901> hey whats everyones favoriet choice for pop hosting
[07:44] <cef> ormandj: depends entirely on the isp involved, and what plans you go on
[07:44] <locomorto> Its copywrite infringnment
[07:44] <ormandj> jessnz: what client do you use in windows for mail?
[07:44] <locomorto> ormandj: just don't trust the Unlimited slogans
[07:44] <nybble> thx ormandj
[07:44] <ivan901> no linux
[07:44] <ivan901> lol sorry
[07:44] <ivan901> should have said
[07:44] <jessNZ> tormandj:hunderbird
[07:44] <ormandj> nybble: no problem, there are various posts in the forums showing how if you like, ubuntuforums.org
[07:44] <ormandj> in the breezy forum
[07:44] <jessNZ> ormandj: thunderbird
[07:44] <ivan901> for hosting?
[07:44] <nybble> yea,
[07:45] <ormandj> jessnz: does thunderbird have an export function? i've never used it
[07:45] <nybble> i'll first use saveas java packages
[07:45] <locomorto> lol
[07:45] <locomorto> In the help menu in breezy theres a guide for GNOME 2.6
[07:45] <ormandj> if so you should be able to backup your mailbox. if not, find where it stores the mailbox
[07:45] <ormandj> and make a copy of it
[07:45] <locomorto> thats right
[07:45] <locomorto> 2.6
[07:45] <ivan901> i normally use postfix myphpadmin
[07:45] <ivan901> yadda
[07:45] <ivan901> but im looking for something more profesional
[07:46] <ormandj> ivan901, postfix is the best MTA, i've got it running on approximately 2700 servers right now (in my opinion the best)
[07:46] <locomorto> I wish they fixed azereus in breezy, atm it does not work with their Java packages
[07:46] <ormandj> and for pop delivery, use courier or dovecot.
[07:46] <ormandj> the dovecot packages in ubuntu suck though
[07:46] <ormandj> horribly broken authentication support
[07:46] <ivan901> yea it does work wel
[07:46] <ivan901> i havnt tried courier though
[07:47] <valtea> hello
[07:47] <crimsun> ormandj: have you filed bugs for those problems?
[07:47] <jessNZ> ormandj: yes but what I want is someone using thunderbird in windows and someone using it in ubuntu and sharing the same mailboxes
[07:47] <ormandj> crimsun: i've emailed the package maintainers, the bugs are fixed in more current revisions of dovecot
[07:47] <valtea> does someone knows of a good Live video streaming software
[07:47] <emb_> hmm, i am getting connection refused errors while doing an apt-get update
[07:47] <locomorto> How well do the kismet packages in the repo work? ie how much config before the thing runs
[07:47] <ormandj> crimsun: a new package just needs to be built
[07:47] <locomorto> emb_: some of the repos are down
[07:47] <emb_> ok
[07:47] <crimsun> ormandj: you still need to file a bug(s)
[07:47] <ormandj> another example of silliness, php5 is built against mysql 4.0
[07:47] <kenas> I'm using a live CD on a Mac, and want to mount my mac'
[07:47] <ormandj> even though 4.1 is the most current
[07:48] <ormandj> (stable)
[07:48] <nybble> seveas...
[07:48] <teenie> what is the command for scandisk?
[07:48] <ormandj> crimsun: ok, i'll file for both things.
[07:48] <crimsun> ormandj: great, thanks
[07:48] <nybble> seveas: might i get some access to your java repos?
[07:48] <kenas> I'm using a live CD on a Mac, and want to mount my mac's hard disk partition. What type do I need to use with mount -t for that?
[07:48] <ormandj> because i'd REALLY like to deploy ubuntu on another 2500+ server datacenter i'm setting up ;)
[07:49] <ormandj> crimsun: my pleasure, no need to thank me for filing reports for other people to do more work, lol :P
[07:49] <cesarin> Btw, anyone knows how to change the keyboard configuration witouth having to edit the CONF file or doing again  the shell configuration ( wich configures your video and mouse too )
[07:50] <locomorto> hmm when i run sudo kismet_server -c eth1 the thing exits with this error:
[07:50] <ivan901> so im sure everyone has heard all the latest goole rumours...so what do you guys think there up to
[07:50] <locomorto> Enabling channel hopping.
[07:50] <locomorto> Enabling channel splitting.
[07:50] <locomorto> FATAL: Illegal card source line 'eth1'
[07:50] <locomorto> eth1 is my wireless card thingy
[07:50] <glick> locomorto, try #kismet
[07:50] <propagandhi83> what google rumours
[07:50] <crimsun> cesarin: from within X Window System, or...?
[07:50] <nybble> wtf, apt is failing on EVERYTHING
[07:50] <glick> dragorn wrote kismet
[07:50] <glick> hes in there
[07:50] <ivan901> there buying up all the dark fiber across the us
[07:50] <robitaille> nybble,  yes...repositories are down...
[07:50] <nybble> oh, ok
[07:51] <propagandhi83> hmmm.. crazy
[07:51] <nybble> any idea on how long?
[07:51] <cesarin> crimsun,  preferently
[07:51] <cesarin> its because my ^ key gets mixed sometimes
[07:51] <ivan901> yea i know
[07:51] <ivan901> weird
[07:51] <ivan901> why would they need alllll of that
[07:51] <cesarin> crisum I got a European-style spanish keyboard, and the "dead keys" are not working on certain program
[07:51] <crimsun> cesarin: what about your keyboard conf are you trying to change? Have you used System> Preferences> Keyboard ?
[07:52] <JDahl> dark fiber? maybe they're wiring the intranet for their new deathstar
[07:52] <cesarin> crimsun,  will try that, but not sure if it works.. I usually tried the shell version, but since I got my monitor and mouse settings good now, I dont want to pass trought that hell :P
[07:52] <propagandhi83> ivan901: big plans obviously
[07:52] <ivan901> some people think that they are developing a new os thats internet based
[07:52] <nybble> anyone know how long the repos are down for?
[07:52] <ivan901> to crush ms
[07:52] <ivan901> which is fine by me
[07:52] <capiCrimm> I've been having trouble getting the correct resolution in gNome. The resolution works fine on the Live CD, so is there any way I can transfer over the config files to the harddrive?
[07:52] <ivan901> bsd base
[07:52] <crimsun> nybble: until the guys in charge can verify and kick things as necessary
[07:53] <nybble> crimsun: och, ,ok
[07:53] <locomorto> capiCrimm: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:53] <ivan901> that would explain the need for all the dark fiber op
[07:53] <nybble> i thought i was going crazy actually for a few minutes
[07:53] <locomorto> capiCrimm: make sure your resolution is listed there
[07:53] <capiCrimm> locomorto, it is, doesn't change a thing.
[07:53] <ormandj> weird, evolution can't see any mail in my inbox
[07:54] <locomorto> capiCrimm: make it the only one
[07:54] <capiCrimm> locomorto, then it just defaults to 640
[07:54] <ormandj> it says there are 4 new mails, but i don't see any :P
[07:54] <locomorto> capiCrimm: it might have something to do with your refresh rates
[07:54] <cesarin> crimsun,  cant find the "DEAD KEYS" feacture
[07:54] <locomorto> capiCrimm: check what the correct horisontal and verticale rates are
[07:55] <capiCrimm> locomorto, already did that.
[07:55] <locomorto> capiCrimm: then run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:55] <locomorto> you need to go advanced somewhere in there
[07:55] <dan> hi guys
[07:55] <ken_> hello again
[07:55] <ivan901> hey
[07:56] <capiCrimm> locomorto, I've done that as well. Is it possible to transfer over the setup from the live cd?
[07:56] <ken_> Im back for somehelp with themes install
[07:56] <dan> does anyone  know of any problems with the repos?
[07:56] <locomorto> capiCrimm: you can mount your drive
[07:56] <ivan901> repos are down
[07:56] <locomorto> capiCrimm: then copy the file i suppose
[07:56] <dan> ahh, cool, just wanted to make sure it wasn't on my end
[07:56] <dan> :)
[07:56] <dan> thanks
[07:56] <ken_> I know how and where, what file am I looking for when asked to browse to install a theme?
[07:56] <ivan901> lol
[07:56] <ormandj> crimsun, the password bugzilla sent me won't work, it says my information is invalid :)
[07:56] <locomorto> capiCrimm: keep a backup of your current xorg.conf though
[07:57] <crimsun> ormandj: there're problems with the connection/machines atm; just hold on
[07:57] <capiCrimm> locomorto, I'll try that, but theirs no way to do an copy of the live-cd onto the harddrive?
[07:57] <ormandj> crimsun, ok. it's working now. :)
[07:58] <ken_> can anyone help me with a theme question?
[07:58] <emb_> capiCrimm, are you using the entire system for the live cd?
[07:58] <Cryptid> Help!!!,How do i install Java Runtime so that Azureus and Lime wire work on my Sys.
[07:58] <emb_> if so, just use dd
[07:58] <locomorto> capiCrimm: that is the only thing that matters
[07:58] <ivan901> yea ken
[07:58] <locomorto> capiCrimm: you can try using 3d drivers i suppose
[07:59] <capiCrimm> eh, I'll see what happens with the liveCD config first.
[07:59] <crimsun> Cryptid: simple. Go download a JRE from Sun/IBM/Blackdown (don't get the RPM), then use java-package (from multiverse) to create a deb. Then use dpkg -i to install the deb.
[07:59] <ken_> Hi, I am ready to install a new theme in Ubuntu and when asked to browse to install the theme.. I dont know what file to llok for for the install
[07:59] <coffey> hello
[08:00] <ivan901> in firefox it normally defaults to your home folder
[08:00] <coffey> anyone wanta help me with ndiswrapper?
[08:00] <coffey> please
[08:00] <ken_> I know where the files are... what file do I browse for .. its not for firefox.. but Ubuntu theme.
[08:01] <Cryptid> crisum, i tried to get the depencies pakages for azureus but synaptec gave a error saying that some files could not be retrived from the server so now how do i get it
[08:01] <crimsun> coffey: it'd help if you stated your issue(s) with ndiswrapper
[08:01] <coffey> ok
[08:01] <coffey> i keep gettinga perl error
[08:01] <ivan901> was the theme a packed theme?
[08:01] <coffey> im not gunna past it its to big
[08:01] <ken_> already extracted.... to a folder...
[08:01] <coffey> its right after i install ndiswrapper
[08:02] <ken_> Im browsing to find the file for the install.. what exact file do I need to look for?
[08:02] <userver> Hello to all
[08:02] <ken_> Hi
[08:02] <Jerub> I'm getting 503 service unavailable when I try and get apt-get update's. is there some problem with the mirrors, or is my network stuffed?
[08:02] <crimsun> for those of you salivating because archive.ubuntu.com can't be reached, use a mirror. For example, http://opensourcemirrors.org/ubuntu/ .
[08:02] <userver> sombody here know ... how can i see television  from web?... and sorry, my english is not very good.. But i try in spanish sites and nobody can help me...
[08:03] <crimsun> that would be you, nybble, Jerub, ...
[08:03] <ivan901> ken is it for kde
[08:04] <Jerub> thanks for that!
[08:04] <dan> crimsun, do you know if the breezy updates are all on the mirrors?
[08:04] <nybble> Cryptid: the main repos are down
[08:04] <mikhail_> can someone please ping mikhail^
[08:04] <Jerub> mikhail_: ping yourself.
[08:04] <mikhail_> i got disconnected, and timed out.
[08:04] <Jerub> mikhail_: that will give you an accurate round trip.
[08:04] <Cryptid> nybble, now what do i do how will i install these softwares
[08:04] <mikhail_> Jerub: actually i just need mikhail^ to go away, from a stale connection/session.
[08:05] <Jerub> mikhail_: then use nickserv ghost
[08:05] <crimsun> dan: they're fairly current. As far as I can tell, they contain all the updates from yesterday.
[08:05] <ivan901> some themes you select the packed file and it installs from the file
[08:05] <Jerub> mikhail_: /msg nickserv help
[08:05] <mikhail_> Jerub: thanks
[08:05] <nybble> yea
[08:06] <hansi_newtolinux> hello
[08:06] <ken_> gnome
[08:06] <Passion> I'm in vancouver, and I cannot download the package list via synaptic. conection is refused. what's wrong -_-;;
[08:06] <coffey> can someone help me with ndiswrapper, i keep getting a error saying, perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
[08:06] <coffey> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
[08:06] <coffey>         LANGUAGE = "en",
[08:06] <coffey>         LC_ALL = (unset),
[08:06] <coffey>         LANG = "en_US.UTF-8"
[08:06] <coffey>     are supported and installed on your system.
[08:06] <coffey> perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
[08:06] <dan> crimsun, thanks, i shall check em out
[08:06] <cesarin> Passion,  atm I cant even access synaptic either
[08:06] <cesarin> seems the servers are down
[08:06] <nybble> yoy
[08:06] <nybble> mirror works
[08:06] <Passion> ah.. ok.
[08:06] <hansi_newtolinux> hello
[08:07] <mikhail^> Jerub: thanks for that.
[08:07] <jessNZ> hi hansi_newtolinux
[08:07] <hansi_newtolinux> hehe
[08:07] <ormandj> crimsun, bug report submitted for php5-mysql, it applies to multiple packages though, it has to do with the seemingly random linking of libmysqlclient12 vs. 14 (stable)
[08:07] <ken_> Ivan, I have Ubuntu with Gnome GUI, Ive downloaded some themes and extracted them, now I want to install them and dont know what exact file to browse for it to install the theme.
[08:07] <ormandj> so i included that in the report
[08:08] <hansi_newtolinux> ken_ have you tried going system then preferences then theme?
[08:09] <mikhail^> ph.archive.ubuntu.com seems to be down... cannot do an apt-get update. :(
[08:09] <ken_> yes, Im at the point of brwosing for the file that installs the theme.... what file type or file do I use to install the theme?
[08:09] <crimsun> argh
[08:10] <Jerub> mikhail^: http://opensourcemirrors.org/ubuntu/
[08:10] <crimsun> guys, when people ask about the Ubuntu mirrors being down, point them to the topic. Thanks!
[08:10] <Jerub> that should probably be put at the START of the topic.
[08:10] <Jerub> not the end.
[08:10] <joe_> Hey guys
[08:11] <Jerub> the mirrors being down is probably more important than telling the #ubuntu inhabitants we're in the ubuntu help channel.
[08:11] <joe_> Well, that summed up my question pretty much, I was going to ask why apt-get is erroring out.
[08:11] <joe_> Figured they were down.
[08:11] <joe_> Any ETA on when they'll be back up?
[08:11] <nybble> true that Jerub
[08:12] <crimsun> whenever the connection/machines are fixed.
[08:12] <emb_> heh
[08:12] <joe_> heh
[08:12] <mikhail^> crimsun: I don't see anything about the archives there...
[08:12] <joe_> Great birthday present here. I've been 15 for an hour and 12 minutes and I can't download KDE =p
[08:12] <D1> where can I find the latest changelog for the ubuntu kernel?
[08:12] <crimsun> mikhail^: look more closely.
[08:12] <tritium> linner, I'm back for a bit.  Any progress?
[08:12] <ormandj> crimsun: i believe the connection is fine, they are still reachable. port 80 is giving connection refused though, it's acting like apache died ;)
[08:13] <bhikkhu> if I upgrade to breezy (from the wiki upgrade notes) and I keep up with the update-notifier updates... will the default packages on my machine be consistent with the official release after Oct 13th?
[08:13] <mikhail^> crimsun: oh did I mention that I'm not (yet) using breezy?
[08:13] <crimsun> ormandj: more than likely.
[08:13] <mikhail^> crimsun: I'm using hoary still...
[08:13] <joe_> I'm using warty, =p
[08:13] <linner> tritium, propagandhi83 is helping me do something i don't understand... so i'll let you know :)
[08:13] <blueke1> why is their no search function in nautilus?
[08:14] <Djmack> umm
[08:14] <D1> searching?
[08:14] <blueke1> yeah
[08:15] <Djmack> what media players can you download for unix?
[08:15] <tritium> linner, okay
[08:15] <linner> ok :)
[08:15] <Djmack> like can i download i tunes
[08:15] <tritium> D1 /usr/share/doc/<packagename>/changelog.Debian.gz
[08:15] <nybble> Djmack: no, not itunes
[08:15] <D1> thanks tritium
[08:15] <tritium> no problem
[08:15] <joe_> Hey guys, has anyone ever had any luck playing World of WarCraft with WINE?
[08:15] <ken_> Can enyone help me with installing a theme?  what file do I browse for to install the theme???
[08:16] <hansi_newtolinux> ken_ did you try with the tar file?
[08:16] <ken_> Ihave the file extracted and ready to go..
[08:16] <Wilf> joe_, i know it can be done, but with a separate program
[08:16] <hansi_newtolinux> ken_ don't extract the file
[08:16] <Wilf> not wine/winex
[08:16] <joe_> Wilf, cedgea?
[08:16] <Wilf> i'm not sure
[08:16] <Wilf> i read about it somewherew
[08:16] <joe_> Hm, alright
[08:16] <joe_> I managed to install+play StarCraft on Wine earlier
[08:17] <ken_> I downoaded a .tar and extrated it to a folder.. now Im browsing to fild the file neccesary to install the theme.. is that correct??
[08:17] <joe_> Diablo II is a pain, because it has copy protection.
[08:17] <hansi_newtolinux> ken_ try not to extract the tar
[08:17] <ken_> ok..
[08:17] <cantona_> archive.ubuntu.com server die?
[08:17] <ken_> I still have the tar.
[08:17] <crimsun> cantona_: topic.
[08:17] <joe_> Aw man, I'm banned from #debian
[08:17] <joe_> Nice.
[08:17] <bhikkhu> ken_ don't extract anything... go to System > Preferences > Themes -- and browse for the .tar file
[08:17] <hansi_newtolinux> ken_ i'm new to linux, but if i remember correctly i just download the theme, and then went system, preferences, theme and click on the tar and bingo
[08:17] <ken_> ok.
[08:18] <nybble> hey Seveas, you alive?
[08:18] <AndieB> Hi all!
[08:18] <nybble> hi AndieB
[08:18] <ken_> oh.. ok Ill try that.. than you very much.. I am also new to this as well
[08:18] <ken_> ty
[08:18] <joe_> Hey, whats a good POP3 mail client that comes with Ubuntu?
[08:19] <Cryptid> nybble, how do u know that the server is down are u also not able to download softwares
[08:19] <hansi_newtolinux> ken_ it's all about reading dude. if you click on the help button on the theme program, it helps ya.
[08:19] <ken_> it says I need to compile the theme
[08:19] <JDahl> joe_, thunderbird or evolution
[08:19] <AndieB> nybble: How is it going?
[08:19] <HaNazir> anyone else getting errors when trying to update?
[08:19] <ken_> I did read....  and it never said what file or file type to browse for to install the theme......
[08:19] <ken_> I do read... alot...
[08:19] <tritium> HaNazir, see the topic
[08:19] <crimsun> HaNazir: topic.
[08:20] <cantona_> crimsun: topic what
[08:20] <crimsun> we need a trigger.
[08:20] <ormandj> crimsun, all bugs reported. is there anything else I need to do? any way for me to help out?
[08:20] <hansi_newtolinux> ken_ "That is, the new theme must be a .tar.gz file."
[08:20] <ken_> and not a .tar
[08:20] <nybble> good, and you AndieB
[08:20] <crimsun> ormandj: thanks. Providing a dpatch is probably the single best thing you can do (and attach it to the bug report)
[08:20] <hansi_newtolinux> ken_ where did you download your theme from?
[08:20] <bhikkhu> if I upgrade to breezy (from the wiki upgrade notes) and I keep up with the update-notifier updates... will the default packages on my machine be consistent with the official release after Oct 13th?
[08:20] <ken_> I am unclear as to the difference.
[08:20] <HaNazir> crimsun: meaning i'm a rare case or its a prob at the mom?
[08:20] <crimsun> cantona_: as in "read the topic"
[08:20] <nybble> cryptid, yes thats how we know.
[08:20] <AndieB> nybble: I'm just great! So anything good to report?
[08:20] <hansi_newtolinux> ken_ try downloading another theme
[08:21] <nybble> cryptid, best is to wait a few hours
[08:21] <nybble> andieb: repos are down
[08:21] <crimsun> HaNazir: no, everyone's experiencing it. See the topic.
[08:21] <tritium> bhikkhu, yes
[08:21] <AndieB> nybble: They are?
[08:21] <ormandj> crimsun: i'm not familiar with "dpatch". i'll check google and see what I come up with. i'll get back to you if I need more information. thank you for all of your help. :)
[08:21] <AndieB> nybble: All?
[08:21] <ken_> I got it from     ..... http://librsvg.sourceforge.net/\\
[08:21] <HaNazir> crimsun: thanx
[08:21] <nybble> andieb: yea,
[08:21] <nybble> andieb: read the topic ^^
[08:21] <cantona_> crimsun: i mean why did it die?
[08:22] <crimsun> cantona_: probably the Web server daemon exploded, as software is bound to do from time to time
[08:22] <AndieB> nybble: Ah, any known reasons to why?
[08:22] <rdfm> HaNazir: hi, in the end, I filed a bug for pppoeconf
[08:22] <bhikkhu> tritium: thanks
[08:23] <ormandj> crimsun: ah, i checked on dpatch. it's not something requiring a patch to source, the builds of thinks linked to mysql just need to be updated to point to libmysql14, and for dovecot, the package just needs to be built on the stable release, not antiquated .99. both should be extremely easy to accomplish, no patching necessary (i would think!) :)
[08:23] <linner> tritium, propagandhi83 found a driver that I can use but we have to ssh it to my laptop - that's what were doing now
[08:23] <rdfm> http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16127
[08:24] <rdfm> my first ubuntu bug! :)
[08:24] <tritium> linner, which driver?
[08:24] <ormandj> go rdfm! :)
[08:24] <ormandj> hip hip horayy! :)
[08:24] <Cryptid> nybble, ok so u want me keep tryin till it comes back,,, y isnt the blackport repos not working
[08:24] <linner> it's for the ati 200m
[08:24] <hansi_newtolinux> ken_ try http://www.gnome-look.org
[08:24] <nybble> i'm not sure, cryptid
[08:24] <nybble> andieb, no i dont.... i suppose the servers need a good kicking
[08:25] <cantona_> crimsun: i see, i was "net installing" before.........but it stopped when 9x % of packages receive
[08:25] <edulix> hi !
[08:25] <crimsun> cantona_: try another mirror
[08:25] <ken_> ok  I will thanks
[08:25] <tritium> linner, yes, of course, but do you have any more info on it?
[08:25] <edulix> I had a problem and finally apt-get -f install tried to configure 254 packages..
[08:25] <edulix> one of them was locales
[08:25] <linner> not yet
[08:25] <linner> hold on a sec
[08:25] <linner> another problem
[08:25] <edulix> now that package fails configuring becaouse of this:
[08:25] <edulix> sr_YU.UTF-8...LC_ADDRESS: `country_ab2' value does not match `country_num' value
[08:26] <ormandj> locales! woohoo! :P
[08:26] <edulix> ? :P
[08:26] <AndieB> nybble: :)
[08:26] <Cryptid> nybble, are u able to download stuff from blackport repos coz only few are being downloaded for me and the rest say failed
[08:26] <ken_> Thanks hansi   !!!!!  I appreciate your help!1
[08:27] <nybble> Cryptid: two different servers, backports and the main repos. you are failing on the main repos. please just wait a few hours, if possible.
[08:27] <AndieB> nybble: Where you from?
[08:28] <JDahl> Seveas, did you remove the acroread7.0 package from your site? http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/deb/adobereader-enu_7.0.1-2_i386.deb isn't there..
[08:28] <dell500> what's the default drive for a 9600xt??
[08:28] <dell500> radeon??
[08:29] <crimsun> the free one is radeon, yes
[08:29] <linner> tritium, here is what we found:  http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=343891
[08:29] <dell500> ok
[08:29] <dell500> to setup xinarama, i have to have both monitors in my xorg config, correcT?
[08:29] <Cryptid> nybble, k i'll wait, i dont think so i have ne other options :-(
[08:29] <nybble> AndieB: ontario canada, you?
[08:30] <dolson> hey, can anyone tell me what GTK theme is used in this pic? http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/data/images/gst-editor/gst-editor-0.4.1.png
[08:30] <edulix> please can somemaybe a dpkg -i --force-all can make the locales packages finish its configure script , doesn't matter if it failed or not to me (at least in that strange language I'll never use)
[08:31] <rathma> hi all
[08:31] <dell500> howdy
[08:31] <tritium> linner, I hope you're not installing an fglrx rpm package
[08:31] <rathma> hi dell500
[08:31] <rathma> :)
[08:31] <AndieB> nybble: Sweden.
[08:31] <tritium> linner, there are fglrx ubuntu packages.
[08:31] <ormandj> edulix: dpkg-reconfigure? :)
[08:32] <linner> tritium, well I'm not sure... I'm just following directions...
[08:32] <dell500> what directions?
[08:32] <linner> we can get anything to ssh anyway
[08:32] <linner> so nothing has been loaded
[08:32] <tritium> linner, please don't install an rpm
[08:32] <dell500> rpm == bad
[08:32] <rathma> big sux today :im reinstall ubuntu... apt-get not find any packages & servers:(
[08:32] <dell500> lol
[08:32] <AndieB> nybble: Working or studying?
[08:33] <linner> tritium, what's an RPM?
[08:33] <ormandj> dolson, some kind of aquaish theme. try a search for "aqua"
[08:33] <tritium> rathma, see /topic
[08:33] <DewDude> i'm getting connection refused when trying to apt-get update...any possible ideas?
[08:33] <tritium> linner, a redhat package format
[08:33] <linner> tritium, oh............
[08:33] <ormandj> devdude: read topic
[08:33] <DewDude> oh
[08:33] <DewDude> heh
[08:33] <linner> that's why SuSE can read it fine
[08:33] <ormandj> dewdude even :)
[08:33] <nybble> AndieB studying
[08:33] <dell500> is there a new version of ubuntu coming out soon?
[08:33] <ormandj> yes
[08:33] <DewDude> oh boy...config file editing
[08:33] <dell500> soon, i hope
[08:33] <ormandj> www.ubuntulinux.org :)
[08:34] <ormandj> 5.10
[08:34] <tristanmike> dell500, oct 13
[08:34] <rathma> tritium, im insert the extra repos the sources list:sudo apt-get update error or not find the sun-jre package or azureus ...
[08:34] <AndieB> nybble: What is it you are studying?
[08:35] <dell500> sweet
[08:35] <ksmurf> are the us repo's down?
[08:35] <dell500> i'll wait to update
[08:35] <ormandj> ksmurf: topic
[08:35] <nybble> how to kill a mockingbird
[08:35] <ksmurf> sorry... I see
[08:35] <ormandj> strange book nybble  :)
[08:36] <nybble> lol
[08:36] <nybble> no i was really tring to kill the mockingbird
[08:36] <zarkoth> You know, it really shouldn't be very hard to get the mp3 codecs to work, should it?
[08:36] <ormandj> zarkoth: talk to fraunhoffer
[08:36] <tritium> zarkoth, patents make it so
[08:36] <joetheodd> I'm loving that measure your desktop milage thing.
[08:37] <zarkoth> Oh, i'm not complaining, just saying that for some reason I'm making it harder than it really is
[08:37] <ormandj> zarkoth, they own the patent on technologies in mp3, therefore, you have to pay them a licensing fee to use it, legally, i believe.
[08:37] <ormandj> hence unbuntu can't bundle it :)
[08:37] <zarkoth> yeah, i realize that....
[08:37] <yancheng> helo, is the ubuntu respitory down??
[08:37] <ormandj> yancheng, read topic
[08:37] <joetheodd> Yeah
[08:37] <edulix> ormadj: I'll try then dpkg-reconfigure --force locales, because last try didn't work either hehe
[08:38] <ormandj> edulix: maybe you should just reinstall it?
[08:38] <rathma> ormandj, where the topic?
[08:38] <ormandj> rathma: /topic
[08:38] <ormandj> or /topic #ubuntu, depending on your client
[08:38] <cantona_> lvm usable?
[08:38] <ormandj> look towards the end.
[08:38] <ormandj> cantona: yes
[08:39] <cast> random comment: you guys should ship with cryptsetup
[08:39] <indypende> why can't i apt-get update today?
[08:39] <ormandj> indypende, read topic
[08:39] <cantona_> ormandj: how good is it ? increase the hdd performace?
[08:39] <indypende> ormandj, opps... sorry
[08:40] <ormandj> cantona_, it makes no difference in performance
[08:40] <ormandj> it's simply a way to abstract out storage into containers
[08:40] <ormandj> so you can resize/add disks/etc more easily
[08:40] <ormandj> or change around partitions/sizes/etc
[08:40] <rathma>  /topic #ubuntu, depending on your client
[08:41] <rathma> :)
[08:41] <cantona_> easier to maintain
[08:41] <cantona_> ?
[08:41] <ormandj> cantona_, http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/whatisvolman.html
[08:41] <cantona_> thanks
[08:41] <rathma> ok im read the topic
[08:41] <teenie> where i can get a games for ubuntu?
[08:41] <ormandj> cantona_, my pleasure
[08:42] <indypende> ormandj, i have to modify my sources.list?
[08:42] <zarkoth> Well then, thanks for pointing me to the topic, i should learn to read the directions at the top of the page more often, ;)
[08:42] <ormandj> rathma: the repositories are down right now, they will be back at some point in time :)
[08:42] <ormandj> zarkoth, :P
[08:42] <yancheng> ormandj: thanks. may i know why the origninal respitory is down? which site i should monitoring for the progress going on of the respitory?
[08:42] <ormandj> indypende, if you want to use the repositories right now, yes. otherwise just wait a little while until they are fixed :)
[08:42] <rathma> ormandj, ok thx
[08:42] <zarkoth> Heh, i'm gonna see if I can manage to get my music up with this, you may see me again sometime soon, lol
[08:42] <zarkoth> but for now, I shall go
[08:42] <ormandj> yancheng, there is no specified reason ATM, it looks like the webservers are having issues, as the machines are up
[08:43] <ormandj> yancheng, and there is no progress site to monitor, just try again in an hour or two :)
[08:43] <ormandj> or use the mirrors
[08:43] <dell500> is there a way to check if i have any ports open that shouldn't be?
[08:43] <ormandj> dell500, you could try "nmap"
[08:44] <indypende> ormandj, ah... the official rep will return... i have only to wait?
[08:44] <ormandj> indypende, correct. hopefully soon. it's just a matter of them fixing it :)
[08:44] <nybble> hmmm.
[08:45] <nybble> well i'm going to bed
[08:45] <nybble> night al
[08:45] <indypende> someone have try k3b in ubntu without the gksudo?
[08:45] <ormandj> goodnight nybble. don't kill too many mockingbirds :)
[08:45] <nybble> lol... night ormandj
[08:45] <rathma> thx brb bye
[08:45] <indypende> i'e triedit and i've experienced no more problm with the permssin of .ICEaut...
[08:45] <Madpilot> indypende: yes, it works for me w/o any sudo
[08:46] <indypende> Madpilot, thank you... goodnews!
[08:46] <Madpilot> indypende: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/K3BHowto
[08:46] <ormandj> wb
[08:47] <Madpilot> indypende: I recently edited that K3B page, because I (and others I've heard from) have been running k3b w/o gksudo or sudo without issues...
[08:47] <indypende> Madpilot, i suggest you if you can to add the k3b-mp3 package to burncd-audio!
[08:47] <HaNazir_> crimsun: how do i use opensources.org/ubuntu?
[08:47] <ormandj> HaNazir, edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[08:47] <ormandj> but i suggest you just wait a little
[08:47] <yancheng> for the backport, should i use http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports or http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports??
[08:47] <HaNazir_> ormandj: well it will be fixed soon right?
[08:48] <ormandj> HaNazir, in all likelyhood, yes
[08:48] <indypende> Madpilot, in breezy k3b hae no support for mp3
[08:48] <Madpilot> indypende: not familiar with that package - I'll look into it
[08:48] <indypende> Madpilot, just a moment
[08:48] <ormandj> yancheng, the second one is likely down. check the forums, ubuntuforums.org
[08:48] <Madpilot> indypende: if you want to edit that wiki K3B page to add this info, please do. It is a wiki, after all
[08:48] <zarkoth> So apparantly I have been following directions correctly what with apt-get and whatnot, it's just the server?
[08:48] <ormandj> under the backports section
[08:48] <zarkoth> how long's it been down?
[08:48] <ormandj> zarkoth, yes, that's what we've been telling you :P
[08:48] <meonkeys> HaNazir_, opensources.org is a spam domain, wtf?
[08:48] <zarkoth> just had to double-check, lol
[08:48] <robitaille> zakame,   at least a hour
[08:48] <ormandj> zarkoth, about an hour or two maybe?
[08:49] <zarkoth> that would explain it then
[08:49] <ormandj> yes, that would. ;)
[08:49] <aleman> hi all
[08:49] <ormandj> hi aleman :)
[08:49] <Madpilot> meonkeys: http://opensourcemirrors.org/ubuntu/
[08:49] <zarkoth> becuase I've been working on this for...a good 45 minutes
[08:49] <meonkeys> Madpilot, thanks.
[08:49] <ormandj> zarkoth, that's what it is, then.
[08:49] <zarkoth> I am going to sleep....then I shall attempt tomorrow, lol
[08:49] <rdw200169> i have a dumb question
[08:49] <zakame> robitaille, eh?
[08:49] <ormandj> rdw200169, i have a dumb answer
[08:49] <indypende> Madpilot, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?highlight=%28formats%29%7C%28restricted%29
[08:50] <Wilf> rdw200169, trout.
[08:50] <mae> Whats the name of those graphical system status applets for gnome?
[08:50] <rdw200169> i want to print a http manual
[08:50] <indypende> Madpilot, i'e never experienced to write a wiki
[08:50] <indypende> Madpilot, im so nebie...
[08:50] <rdw200169> but i don't want to click through the 50 pages of it to do so
[08:50] <rdw200169> is there a better way?
[08:50] <ormandj> mae, gkrellm used to be one, i believe
[08:50] <Madpilot> indypende: OK, it's mentioned in Restricted - I'll add something in the k3b page in a bit. Thank you.
[08:50] <joetheodd> Hey, how do I open the settings panel that KDE gave me the first time I loaded it?
[08:50] <ormandj> rdw200169, only if they provide the manual in a different format. look for a link that says "all in one page" or pdf or something
[08:50] <rdw200169> darn
[08:50] <meonkeys> mae, do you mean the ones that run on the panel?
[08:50] <aleman> Are there any problems with the repositories?
[08:51] <mae> meonkeys, no the fancy looking ones
[08:51] <robitaille> zakame,  sorry, tab completed to the wrong irc nic...
[08:51] <mae> i can't remmeber what they are called
[08:51] <aleman> I can't seem to connect all of the sudden
[08:51] <mae> remember *
[08:51] <rdw200169> tried that but kde developers seem to prefer ONLY http...
[08:51] <ormandj> rdw: you could write a quick perl script or something to wget recursively, and print each page as it downloads
[08:51] <zakame> robitaille, tis ok
[08:51] <robitaille> aleman,  yes
[08:51] <meonkeys> mae, ya, you're prolly thinking of gkrellm, then
[08:51] <zakame> robitaille, but the ubuntu archives are down?
[08:51] <ormandj> rdw: show me which manual you're talking about, let me see if i could help you :)
[08:51] <mae> meonkeys, not gkrellm
[08:51] <robitaille> zakame,   yes they are down
[08:51] <mae> it is a plugin based system
[08:51] <rdw200169> it's the manual for quanta plus for kde
[08:51] <ormandj> mae: freshmeat.net
[08:51] <mae> you can write applets to display various info
[08:52] <ormandj> rdw: do you have a link?
[08:52] <aleman> robitaille OK, that explains the
[08:52] <aleman> then...
[08:52] <rdw200169> http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdewebdev/quanta/index.html
[08:52] <ormandj> aleman, topic :)
[08:52] <meonkeys> mae, starts with a k?
[08:52] <aleman> thanks!
[08:52] <mae> meonkeys, not superkaramba
[08:52] <meonkeys> mae, dang
[08:52] <mae> there is a gtk app just like it
[08:52] <tata> hi hello
[08:52] <mae> gdesklets
[08:52] <mae> thats it
[08:52] <aleman> Hey I just installed Ubuntu
[08:53] <aleman> so far: love it!
[08:53] <tata> hi asl pls?
[08:53] <indypende> Madpilot, i have a problem thet make me fool from 2 days..
[08:53] <indypende> Madpilot, can u help me?
[08:53] <aleman> exept for the repositories being down :)
[08:53] <joetheodd> AMOR is awesome. I get to see tux dance on my xterm.
[08:53] <ormandj> rdw200169, ok, i looked, you'll have to write some shell script/perl to do what you want
[08:53] <Madpilot> indypende: possibly. Ask your question, and if I can't answer it, someone else probably can!
[08:54] <meonkeys> mae, I'm stumped! please /msg me if you figure it out.
[08:54] <rdw200169> ormanj, thx
[08:54] <ormandj> aleman: that's great news my friend. they should be back up soon :) good luck
[08:54] <meonkeys> mae, I'd like to check it out too! I was always jealous of those I saw with a nice superkaramba setup...
[08:54] <ormandj> rdw200169, you're very welcome. wish i could help you more
[08:54] <aleman> thanks ormandj any recomendations?
[08:54] <ormandj> welcome bob2.
[08:54] <ormandj> aleman: wait about 15 minutes :)
[08:54] <joetheodd> Haha I love the new topic
[08:55] <meonkeys> mae: http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/ ?
[08:55] <joetheodd> Yes, archive.ubuntu.com is down. Chill out.
[08:55] <DualCore> i need help with samba
[08:55] <mae> what script is in charge of writing the motd?
[08:55] <epiloc> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/t/traceroute/traceroute_1.4a12-18_i386.deb
[08:55] <epiloc>   Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (82.211.81.182). - connect (111 Connection refused) [IP: 82.211.81.182 80] 
[08:55] <indypende> Madpilot, i've configured my scanner and i use it with xsane only as root
[08:55] <aleman> No, I mean about Ubuntu in general... I've been using debian...
[08:55] <ormandj> epiloc, read topic please
[08:55] <ormandj> aleman, ahh. desktop?
[08:55] <bob2> epiloc: yes, read the topic
[08:55] <epiloc> ooohhh, so sorry
[08:55] <aleman> yep desktop...
[08:55] <aleman> kde
[08:56] <meonkeys> mae, I repeat... http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/  ?
[08:56] <indypende> Madpilot, it is a problem of permission for the file /proc/bus/usb/***/***
[08:56] <DualCore> can anybody tell me if i can use ubuntu with my DSL connection?
[08:56] <ormandj> aleman, you'll just find most things are kept better up to date for desktop usage on ubuntu than debian, because of the 6 month release cycle :)
[08:56] <HaNazir> anyone use mutt?
[08:56] <mae> meonkeys, i already said gdesklets way up there, yes :)
[08:56] <bob2> DualCore: yes
[08:56] <ormandj> aleman, you might try kubuntu if you like kde :)
[08:56] <robitaille> HaNazir,  yes
[08:56] <indypende> Madpilot, then if i do a sudo chmod a+rw of the file xsane work perfectly for me!
[08:56] <mae> meonkeys, do you know what script is in charge of writing the /etc/motd file? it seems it is dynamically updated because it always includes the latest hostname
[08:56] <Madpilot> indypende: you might want to post your question to the Ubuntu Forums
[08:56] <meonkeys> mae, pardon me, missed that!
[08:56] <aleman> yes, there I am...
[08:56] <indypende> Madpilot, but every time i reboot the file loose the permissions...
[08:56] <mae> meonkeys, np :)
[08:57] <aleman> still tweaking everything...
[08:57] <ormandj> aleman, hehe, that's the fun in linux ;p
[08:57] <indypende> Madpilot, i've not subscribed the forum...
[08:57] <aleman> well specially the distros that will let you!
[08:57] <ormandj> aleman, if you have a recent video card (ati or nvidia) and you are wanting 3d acceleration, the next step might be getting that functional. there is a lot of information concerning that in ubuntuforums.org :)
[08:57] <meonkeys> mae, nope, but's it's not the motd... dang, I used to know that.
[08:58] <Madpilot> indypende: might be a good time to subscribe,, then... ;)
[08:58] <meonkeys> mae, something to do with getty, maybe?
[08:58] <ormandj> aleman: it's not super-easy yet though, so only play with it if you're comfortable ;)
[08:58] <DualCore> thanks
[08:58] <indypende> Madpilot, to set the permission at every boot... there is a easy way?
[08:58] <aleman> ok, yeah that's where I'm going, I need to configure my nvidia card
[08:58] <bob2> anyone have any idea when it stopped replying?
[08:58] <edulix> wohoo this is already all done. restarting to kde 3.5 :)
[08:58] <ormandj> bob2: yes, i know exactly when
[08:58] <ormandj> i was in the middle of a download :P
[08:58] <ormandj> let me check the timestamps.
[08:59] <Madpilot> indypende: I've got no idea, and I know you've asked here before without any good answers. That's why I suggested the forums, different people and a better place for in-depth discussions
[08:59] <DualCore> does anybody know a site where i could get a guide to help me install a DSL connection on my ubuntu?
[08:59] <meonkeys> mae, here you go: /etc/issue
[08:59] <heatxsink> hello all
[08:59] <indypende> Madpilot, thanks.
[08:59] <Madpilot> !tell DualCore about docs
[08:59] <aleman> thank you see you soon
[08:59] <heatxsink> is the us.archive server down?
[08:59] <bob2> DualCore: you need to be a lot more specific
[08:59] <DualCore> oh
[08:59] <bob2> DualCore: if you're behind a router, just plug it in and you'll be online during the install
[08:59] <Madpilot> heatxsink: they all are, check the /topic
[08:59] <DualCore> no router
[09:00] <bob2> DualCore: if your machine needs to run pppoe, then say so
[09:00] <bob2> DualCore: is it a usb modem?
[09:00] <meonkeys> mae, at least on my Fedora Core 4 box, that's where the virtual console pre-login-prompt text is set. I still haven't switched to ubuntu, but I'm downloading the ISOs now. :)
[09:00] <DualCore> just a PC connected to pppoe
[09:00] <tristanmike> I'm getting errors with apt-get update is anyone else?
[09:00] <bob2> Madpilot: au, ca, us, are all pointing at archive.ubuntu.com
[09:00] <bob2> tristanmike: /topic
[09:00] <DualCore> over ethernet
[09:00] <HaNazir> anyone here familiar with mutt?
[09:00] <meonkeys> HaNazir, ya
[09:00] <Madpilot> bob2: yeah, I know
[09:00] <joetheodd> tristanmike: read the topic
[09:00] <epiloc> when compiling a program, it tends to go to the wrong spot... where is the 'right' spot?
[09:00] <bob2> DualCore: then run "sudo ppoeconf" from a terminal
[09:00] <tristanmike> joetheodd, what does that mean? update dpkg?
[09:01] <ormandj> bob2, roughly 20:45 GMT-10
[09:01] <bob2> epiloc: --prefix=/usr/local/
[09:01] <DualCore> oh ok... thanks
[09:01] <robitaille> HaNazir,  yes, I use mutt sometimes
[09:01] <bob2> ormandj: thanks
[09:01] <HaNazir> meonkeys: u have to set it up by editing the muttrc file right?
[09:01] <ormandj> bob2, machines still respond to ping, but connection refused on port 80.
[09:01] <ormandj> no problem :)
[09:01] <HaNazir> robitaille: for gmail?
[09:01] <bob2> epiloc: in practice you don't very often need to compile things from scratch
[09:01] <tristanmike> joetheodd, sorry, missed the first of it
[09:01] <meonkeys> HaNazir, yep
[09:01] <bob2> ormandj: yeah, I just emailed the admins telling them that
[09:01] <bob2> HaNazir: yes
[09:01] <tristanmike> bob2, sorry, I missed the first of the topic, my apologies
[09:01] <epiloc> bob2, untill archive.ubuntu.com is down :)
[09:01] <robitaille> HaNazir,  not for gmail.  But i should possible  via pop
[09:02] <meonkeys> mae, was that it? /etc/issue?
[09:02] <bob2> epiloc: there are working mirrors
[09:02] <bob2> epiloc: wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[09:02] <HaNazir> meonkeys: so i creat the file sinc ei dont have it. so nano -w .muttrc, then what do i add?
[09:02] <bob2> HaNazir: you need to set each option you care about, manually
[09:02] <Knelix> Hey guys...
[09:02] <bob2> HaNazir: you'll want to find a guide on the web that explains it all, or you'll spend a year working onit
[09:02] <mae> meonkeys, theres no doubt that /etc/motd is the correct file to display the login prompt message, /etc/issue just has one line describing the release of ubuntu
[09:02] <Orborde> Is something up with the US repos?
[09:02] <HaNazir> bob2: lol that bad eh?
[09:03] <ormandj> bob2, it might make sense for ubuntu to setup failover machines ;) and do periodic checks to make sure all machines in pool are up, remove those that aren't, alert admins
[09:03] <ormandj> Orbman, topic
[09:03] <bob2> Orborde: /topic
[09:03] <meonkeys> HaNazir, here's an example: www.hserus.net/muttrc.html
[09:03] <Orborde> Oh, sorry.
[09:03] <bob2> ormandj: yes, those tools exist already
[09:03] <Orborde> I read it and still missed it.
[09:03] <HaNazir> meonkeys: thanx
[09:03] <tristanmike> Orborde, me too :)
[09:03] <Knelix> How do I install window borders in Gnome... I download and drag them to the Theme Preferences window... but it tells me the format is invalid... What gives?
[09:03] <ormandj> bob2, i know, i use it across a 2700 server pool :P
[09:03] <meonkeys> mae, I thought you meant for virtual terminals, like when you press CTRL-ALT-F1
[09:03] <tristanmike> I asked not even a minute ago
[09:03] <bob2> ormandj: oh, I mean, they use nagios to detect this sort of thing already
[09:03] <meonkeys> dang, this is a busy channel.
[09:03] <Orborde> tristanmike: Linux users are apparently not known for their critical reading skills :)
[09:04] <ormandj> tristanmike, Orborde, you and about 200 other people in the past 10 minutes :P
[09:04] <tristanmike> lol
[09:04] <meonkeys> HaNazir, just google for muttrc to find more samples.
[09:04] <tristanmike> sorry to have been a burnden
[09:04] <Orborde> ormandj: Well, at least I TRIED to read the topic, though I still failured.
[09:04] <Dalkus> hi, how do I mount a device (mp3 player) that's been attacehd to a usb port?
[09:04] <ormandj> bob2, ahhh. i see :) guess people are just snoozing a bit, they should get some rest :)
[09:04] <ormandj> Orborde, hehe, well, you get an A+ for effort then!
[09:04] <Orborde> How long have the archives been out?
[09:04] <bob2> HaNazir: http://zenii.linux.org.uk/~telsa/BitsAndPieces/cave.html
[09:04] <epiloc> how do i set up the mirror archive?
[09:04] <ormandj> Orborde, just over an hour
[09:04] <bob2> Orborde: an hour or so, it seems
[09:05] <Orborde> That's when the complaints started flooding in, eh?
[09:05] <ormandj> Orbman, yes
[09:05] <bob2> epiloc: you don't, you just configure apt to use a mirror
[09:05] <ormandj> Orborde i meant :)
[09:05] <mae> meonkeys, yes you are absolutely right, issue is what appears :)
[09:05] <Orborde> Maybe we should help the situation by having everyone ping archive.ubuntu.com constantly.
[09:06] <meonkeys> mae, BAM! :)
[09:06] <epiloc> how do i configure apt to use a mirror? :/
[09:06] <ormandj> i think xchat should make a bright flashing red and yellow popup window that can't be closed for 10 seconds that has the topic of any irc room you join, it's amazing how infrequently people check the topic (even I rarely do)
[09:06] <ormandj> epiloc, i do suggest waiting for them to come back up. but if you must, use synaptic and edit the repositories, or edit /etc/apt/sources.list. do make a backup.
[09:07] <Orborde> ormandj: Is Xchat open source? You could write it yourself.
[09:07] <ormandj> Orborde, yes, it is. but it wouldn't help if i wrote it. it wouldn't be in the mainline source :P
[09:07] <cevizoglu> is there a way to invert the background/foreground of a postscript or pdf file in the viewer?
[09:08] <Orborde> ormandj: H4x0r the site and put yours up.
[09:08] <Orborde> ormandj: Duh.
[09:08] <meonkeys> cevizoglu, uh, are you crossposting to all the Linux distro channels? please don't do that.
[09:08] <ormandj> Orborde, lol :)
[09:08] <upgrdman> how do i install mplayer
[09:08] <upgrdman> synaptic cant find a pkg names that
[09:09] <cevizoglu> meonkeys, why?
[09:09] <Orborde> upgrdman: See topic.
[09:09] <Orborde> upgrdman: The repositories are down, so you couldn't get it.
[09:09] <upgrdman> any mirrors?
[09:10] <meonkeys> cevizoglu, hmm. well, I don't know. :) nevermind. I just thought that a mailing list or newsgroup or something might be an easier way to get help on the topic with which you seek enlightenment.
[09:11] <Orborde> Why is the repo giving a connection refused, though?
[09:11] <meonkeys> cevizoglu, IRC seems great for questions with quick answers (usually most are solved by just reading the topic), but anything slightly complex seems better voiced elsewhere.
[09:11] <Orborde> Does that mean the Apache or whatever crashed, but not the system?
[09:11] <ormandj> Orborde, that's what it looks like
[09:11] <Orborde> Darned unreliable Indians.
[09:11] <VXNerve> Hi.  I stopped by to ask about archive.ubuntu.com, however I see that it's down.  Are there any mirrors for archive.ubuntu.com I can use?
[09:12] <ormandj> Orborde, :)
[09:12] <Orborde> HEY! WE HAVE A TOPIC-READER!
[09:12] <Orborde> Sorry.
[09:12] <VXNerve> LOL
[09:13] <Madpilot> VXNerve: you should win a prize or something, for actually reading the topic! ;)
[09:13] <Orborde> Maybe someone should write a script on their client that, whenever someone joins, they automatically send YES THE REPOS ARE DOWN to the channel.
[09:13] <Orborde> ^ouch
[09:13] <Dalkus> what filesystem would an mp3 player have? (what would a memory pen have?) for the mount command?
[09:14] <Madpilot> Orborde: make it go to /msg <new victim> instead, and you'd have a winner!
[09:14] <bob2> Dalkus: it should mount automagically
[09:14] <Orborde> Dalkus: I'd guess FAT, but I really have no idea.
[09:14] <bob2> Dalkus: look at /var/log/syslog to see why it didn't
[09:14] <VXNerve> Thanks.  I'm in Iraq and I just installed Breezy to play around with.  I only have about another hour of computer time left to play with.  I'm probably going to have to wait another couple of days to install some other programs.   Thanks for ya'll help.
[09:14] <Dalkus> bob2, where would I look to see if was mounted? /media?
[09:14] <epiloc> where do i place an executable after i have compiled it?
[09:14] <Dalkus> thanks bob2, osfameron
[09:14] <bob2> Dalkus: "mount"
[09:14] <bob2> epiloc: what are you compiling?
[09:14] <_Trintity_> anyone know if any canadian repositories are down.  update is refused connection
[09:14] <Orborde> VXNerve: Iraq?
[09:15] <Orborde> _Trintity_: See topic.
[09:15] <epiloc> traceroute
[09:15] <VXNerve> Yes
[09:15] <_Trintity_> k
[09:15] <Orborde> VXNerve: In what capacity?
[09:15] <bob2> epiloc: it's really not worht compiling traceroute
[09:15] <VXNerve> I'm a Signal Officer in the US Army.
[09:16] <epiloc> bob2, does ubuntu have a similar prog already installed?
[09:16] <_Trintity_> thanks
[09:16] <jorgeu> hi!
[09:16] <tritium> Orborde, hello from a purdue alum
[09:16] <bob2> epiloc: it has traceroute, yes
[09:16] <Orborde> VXNerve: Ah. Good luck to you/
[09:16] <Madpilot> epiloc: traceroute itself is already in Ubuntu repos...
[09:16] <Orborde> tritium: Hello.
[09:17] <tritium> VXNerve, be safe.
[09:17] <jorgeu> ok, some people here have the same sleeping problems than me
[09:17] <Orborde> It would explain why he's playing around with Linux.
[09:17] <epiloc> Yes, I understand that... but can anyone give me the path to where the executable would be placed?
[09:17] <Orborde> epiloc: which traceroute ?
[09:17] <bob2> epiloc: dude
[09:17] <Orborde> epiloc: Or are you trying to find it off the internet?
[09:18] <Orborde> Oh.
[09:18] <epiloc> it is compiled, but it seems that traceroute.exe is in the wronge spot
[09:18] <bob2> this is not windows
[09:18] <bob2> you do not have .exe files
[09:18] <Orborde> epiloc: What sequence of commands did you put in?
[09:18] <bob2> (unless they're windows-compatible .net things)
[09:19] <Orborde> bob2: Are there any .NET implementations on Linux? I assume not, but it seems remotely possible.
[09:19] <epiloc> ./configure
[09:19] <epiloc> ./make
[09:19] <epiloc> sudo ./make install
[09:19] <Orborde> epiloc: Did it work?
[09:19] <Orborde> epiloc: You don't use ./make. You just use make
[09:19] <bob2> Orborde: apt-cache show mono
[09:19] <Madpilot> epiloc: for traceroute, just type "man traceroute" to get the manual, if you've got it installed off the repos...
[09:19] <thoreauputic> epiloc: probably /usr/local/bin/traceroute then
[09:20] <epiloc> oops, i mean no dotslash on the make and make install
[09:20] <indypende> someone have experienced how to install a creative webcam?
[09:20] <thoreauputic> epiloc: which is in your PATH anyway...
[09:20] <Orborde> epiloc: Type which traceroute
[09:20] <Agrajag> wouldn't traceroute be in one of the sbins?
[09:20] <bob2> Orborde: full mostly-BSD implementation of it all, aside from winforms
[09:20] <Orborde> epiloc: Can you use traceroute at all?
[09:20] <thoreauputic> Agrajag: ah good point...
[09:21] <epiloc> thoreauputic, thanks i will try
[09:21] <epiloc> no traceroute does not exist on my system, there are  no man pages for it
[09:22] <thoreauputic> epiloc: but you claim to have compiled it ? /me is puzzled
[09:22] <epiloc> thoreauputic, up and running, thanks
[09:23] <epiloc> what is so crazy about this?
[09:23] <Madpilot> which traceroute  gets  /usr/sbin/traceroute
[09:23] <teenie> where i can find a plug in for winamp?
[09:24] <epiloc> i download traceroute.tar.gz / i untar it/ ./configure .... make ... make install
[09:24] <Dalkus> teenie, winamp.com ?
[09:24] <Orborde> teenie: What do you mean?
[09:24] <teenie> for ubunyu?
[09:24] <Dalkus> oh
[09:24] <Orborde> epiloc: Okay.
[09:24] <Dalkus> xmms
[09:24] <Dalkus> download it
[09:24] <teenie> ubuntu?
[09:24] <Dalkus> it's just like winamp
[09:24] <epiloc> then mv /usr/local/sbin/traceroute /usr/local/bin/traceroute
[09:24] <epiloc> viola
[09:24] <Orborde> epiloc: That's kind of the long way.
[09:25] <Orborde> epiloc: Why didn't you just use apt-get install traceroute ?
[09:25] <thoreauputic> epiloc: considering you could have just done sudo apt-get install traceroute...
[09:25] <Orborde> epiloc: Well, except that right now the repos are fraggled.
[09:25] <vinboy> h
[09:25] <vinboy> hi
[09:25] <vinboy> why does Ubuntu use esound instead of ALSA?
[09:25] <teenie> is there is a winamp for ubuntu?
[09:26] <vinboy> teenie: beep media player, xmms
[09:26] <thoreauputic> vinboy: not instead of - "with"
[09:26] <teenie> where i can find that?
[09:26] <Orborde> epiloc: Admittedly, it is good practice to learn how to compile stuff from source, but traceroute isn't one there's much of a point in doing that for.
[09:26] <epiloc> because i think that at one point or another in my life i should know how to compile and run a program
[09:26] <Madpilot> teenie: lots of media players...
[09:26] <Orborde> teenie: Know how to use synaptic?
[09:26] <vinboy> thoreauputic, they have both?? how do I enable it?
[09:26] <teenie> can u pls teach me
[09:26] <Orborde> epiloc: Okay.
[09:26] <thoreauputic> vinboy: erm - they are bothe enabled
[09:27] <teenie> yes
[09:27] <vinboy> oh.. ok
[09:27] <Orborde> teenie: Click System -> Administration -> Synaptic
[09:27] <teenie> and what will i do to have that player
[09:27] <Madpilot> teenie: what format are you trying to play? mp3?
[09:27] <teenie> yes
[09:28] <thoreauputic> vinboy: alsa is the sound system/drivers, esound is the sound daemon ( oversimplified)
[09:28] <epiloc> Orborde I am trying to find vulnerabilities in my boss's network, and I am new to linux but learning ...  currently searching for gateway ips to reroute traffic through my machine via arpspoofing
[09:28] <epiloc> he is paying me of course
[09:28] <teenie> and some stream..that required a plug ins
[09:28] <Ming2k> i am receiving "Connection Refused" to us.archive.ubuntu.com and security.ubuntu.com via apt-get, anyone know why?
[09:28] <Madpilot> teenie: you can install mp3 support easily
[09:28] <thoreauputic> Ming2k: /topic
[09:28] <Orborde> teenie: Click search, type in xmms, click xmms in the list and mark for install.
[09:28] <Madpilot> !+mp3
[09:28] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[09:28] <Madpilot> teenie: see the URL just above ^^^
[09:29] <Ming2k> thoreauputic: oops... cool thanks
[09:29] <thoreauputic> :)
[09:29] <Orborde> teenie: The repositories are down ATM though, so it may be a few hours before you can get it.
[09:29] <Orborde> Ming2k: Join the club.
[09:29] <teenie> what will i do now in my synaptic?
[09:30] <Orborde> teenie: Are you new to Ubuntu/Linux, I'm guessing?
[09:30] <teenie> yes
[09:30] <Madpilot> !tell teenie about repositories
[09:30] <teenie> im a  windows lover
[09:30] <teenie> but now im intersting to learn more in linux
[09:31] <steely> i'm having problems with my video card
[09:31] <Madpilot> teenie: ubotu should just have sent you a couple of links. Read up on them, and check back here later to see if the repository servers are running again
[09:31] <steely> any suggestions?
[09:31] <Orborde> Madpilot: I should learn to use that bot....
[09:31] <Orborde> !tell Orborde about everything
[09:32] <LivingTarget> as the topic says you can actually switch repository servers
[09:32] <Knelix> How do I start up Gnome via the CLI?
[09:32] <thoreauputic> Orborde: now that would be quite a factoid ;-)
[09:32] <Madpilot> !tell Orborde about tell
[09:32] <tristanmike> they will fix the problem eventually, right?
[09:32] <Phempa> ok, so judging by the topic, I take it my problems connectiong to certain repositories are explained there?
[09:33] <thoreauputic> Knelix:  startx `which gnome-session`
[09:33] <bob2> Phempa: if they're archive.ubuntu.com ones, yes
[09:33] <steely> my fps is less than half of what it should be
[09:33] <thoreauputic> Knelix: aalthough just startx would do, probably
[09:33] <Phempa> security.ubunntu.com
[09:33] <Phempa> and...
[09:33] <Madpilot> steely: which graphics card?
[09:33] <Madpilot> Phempa: they're all down...
[09:33] <Phempa> ahh
[09:33] <Phempa> ok
[09:33] <Phempa> thanks :)
[09:34] <bob2> no
[09:34] <bob2> not all are down
[09:34] <Phempa> I cant get anything at all
[09:34] <LivingTarget> some mirrors are working, but not the official ones afaik
[09:34] <Phempa> using Synaptics
[09:34] <bob2> anything that resolves to 82.211.81.151/82.211.81.182 is down, tho
[09:34] <Knelix> thoreauputic: That did it. Thanks.
[09:34] <Madpilot> OK, to be accurate, all the offiicial ones are down currently ;)
[09:34] <tristanmike> They will be fixed at somepoint will they?
[09:34] <Phempa> okey dokey
[09:34] <steely> nVidia Corp NV5m64 [RIVA TNT2 Model 64/model 64 Pro] 
[09:34] <thoreauputic> Knelix: no worries :)
[09:34] <xophEr> Could someone help me, where can I find my bus, disk and filesystem drivers in menuconfig? Im trying to compile a new kernel..
[09:34] <Phempa> I thought my computer was hating me here
[09:35] <bob2> I don't think that is true, either
[09:35] <Phempa> :P
[09:35] <rdw200169> being that ubuntu is the top distro, i'm sure they will fix it
[09:35] <bob2> xophEr: why are you trying to compile your own kernel?
[09:35] <steely> does that sound right?
[09:35] <bob2> rdw200169: there's no useful stats to indicate that
[09:35] <LivingTarget> Yeah it's just some down time
[09:35] <tristanmike> cool
[09:35] <Knelix> thoreauputic: Are the processes I had going on before I accidentally quit it still active or no? (They do not show up graphically)
[09:35] <Phempa> later pholks :)
[09:35] <xophEr> bob2, because I need something that 2.6.13 has and 2.6.12 doesnt :)
[09:35] <rdw200169> bob2, distrowatch has ubuntu in the top
[09:35] <xophEr> My NIC isnt supported by 2.6.12
[09:35] <bob2> xophEr: which is?
[09:35] <rdw200169> :)
[09:35] <tristanmike> so I would just add my mirror to the end of the list and apt-get update, just one line?
[09:35] <bob2> rdw200169: distrowatch more or less invents their scores
[09:35] <Ming2k> Is there anyone i need to chat to, if i want to mirror?
[09:35] <Madpilot> !tell steely about nvidia
[09:36] <bob2> tristanmike: it'd have to go on a new line
[09:36] <Ming2k> or can i just run a rsync and publish it?
[09:36] <rdw200169> bob2, linux world gave them a 10/10
[09:36] <tristanmike> bob2, yes, but just one line, untill the others come back online?
[09:36] <bob2> rdw200169: and lots of people like it, yes, but that doesn't mean anyone knows how many people use it :)
[09:36] <bob2> tristanmike: yes
[09:36] <rdw200169> bob2, obviously
[09:37] <tristanmike> bob2, thank you, you are very helpful
[09:37] <teenie> what this it means ? Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/)
[09:37] <cevizoglu> meonkeys, what mailing list or newsgroup are you referring to?
[09:37] <bob2> teenie: the rest of the error message explains it
[09:37] <Orborde> teenie: Probably that you forgot sudo ?
[09:37] <rdw200169> bob2, i can determine, though, that ubuntu is popular b/c of the bitorrent rates for EVER iso of the distro available
[09:37] <dade`> archive.ubuntu.com has http down
[09:37] <bob2> teenie: you either ran it as well as some other packagemanagement tool, or you forgot to run it as root
[09:37] <dade`> also italian mirrors
[09:38] <bob2> dade`: /topic
[09:38] <Gandalf_the_Grey> Ubutnu: hi
[09:38] <joetheodd> Gandalf!
[09:38] <Gandalf_the_Grey> Yes
[09:38] <bob2> rdw200169: right
[09:38] <joetheodd> Nice name =)
[09:38] <Knelix> I guess not.
[09:38] <tristanmike> wow, Gandalf
[09:38] <krom> Hallo
[09:38] <Gandalf_the_Grey> ubotu: Hi
[09:38] <ubotu> niihau
[09:38] <dade`> eheh
[09:38] <Gandalf_the_Grey> ubotu: What is 10 times 10
[09:38] <ubotu> Gandalf_the_Grey: what are you talking about?
[09:38] <Gandalf_the_Grey> :-)
[09:38] <Saruman_the_Whit> 100
[09:38] <Gandalf_the_Grey> Chatterbot
[09:38] <bob2> xophEr: I'm quite serious about asking which things are missing, since if 2.6.12 is missing support for your hardware, that should be added to buntu's kernel
[09:38] <zxsykco> ubotu
[09:39] <teenie> what is the use of wget?
[09:39] <rdw200169> bob2, heck, the constant activity in this forum should be more than enough proof...
[09:39] <zxsykco> !linux
[09:39] <ubotu> rumour has it, linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Ubuntu is only one version of the GNU/Linux operating system. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[09:39] <Madpilot> teenie: it downloads stuff from the web
[09:39] <bob2> rdw200169: debian has no central web forum, and it still has hundreds of thousands of installations
[09:39] <Radagast_the_Bro> hm, Gandalf_the_Grey is the only name that fists
[09:39] <teenie> ic
[09:39] <zxsykco> !Gandalf_the-Grey
[09:39] <ubotu> zxsykco: Do they come in packets of five?
[09:39] <bob2> so I don't think forum activity is a great test :)
[09:40] <teenie> bob2-https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-ae79fed9d60ccdf06f400ae76ad53867d94bb2b8
[09:40] <teenie> dis what i am follow
[09:40] <dade`> any reason for the downtime of archive.ubuntu.org ?
[09:40] <teenie> but theres a lot of error
[09:40] <bob2> teenie: if you follow those instructions, you will not get that error
[09:40] <rdw200169> bob2, yes, but, for those of us that want the latest and greatest (every 6 mos.) ubuntu is the perfect debian answer
[09:40] <bob2> ok
[09:41] <teenie> k
[09:41] <bob2> dade`: no one knows yet
[09:41] <rdw200169> bob2, consequentially, it also has better support, i.e. ehre
[09:41] <bob2> mmm
[09:41] <bob2> I find it easier to get help with Debian than ubuntu
[09:41] <bob2> ubuntu has a very small number of resident experts
[09:41] <xophEr> bob2, well my NIC needs the sk98lin driver, "Marvell Yukon Chipset / SysKonnect SK-98xx Support" In kernel config. It's a 1000mb eth card, integrated with my ASUS a8v-e Deluxe m/b.
[09:42] <dade`> i can't see the topic after x-common problems ->
[09:42] <LivingTarget> bob2: I'm sure it will get better when it matures
[09:42] <bob2> dade`: read the beginning of it
[09:42] <bob2> LivingTarget: hope so
[09:42] <bob2> xophEr: 2.6.12 has no driver for that at all?
[09:42] <dade`> ..
[09:43] <Agrajag> uh, I belive I have that same board, and it works fine in hoary
[09:43] <dade`> i need the link for xcommon problem
[09:43] <Madpilot> xophEr: I've got the identical mobo & chip, and it works just fine here
[09:43] <bob2> bah
[09:43] <xophEr> Madpilot, well it doesnt work for me.. hmm
[09:44] <Madpilot> xophEr: running Breezy or Hoary?
[09:44] <Jacko115> any updates on the archive.ubuntu.com server?
[09:44] <xophEr> Maybe the kernel has been updated after I last tried..
[09:44] <xophEr> Breezy
[09:44] <robitaille> Jacko115,  no
[09:44] <bob2> Jacko115: they'll be put in the topic if/when there are
[09:44] <bob2> xophEr: have you filed a bug?
[09:44] <mpm2> Can "domain name" be synonymous with "Ip address?"
[09:44] <teenie> how bout dis error? Could not download all repository indexes
[09:44] <bob2> cyphase: the answer in your blog is a bit dodge
[09:44] <Madpilot> xophEr: I'm running Hoary, and it all worked fine, out of the box
[09:44] <bob2> mpm2: no
[09:44] <xophEr> bob2, not yet
[09:45] <Madpilot> teenie: see the topic, please. The repository server is down
[09:45] <xophEr> Madpilot, I tried hoary too, didnt work there either
[09:45] <Orborde> teenie: See topic.
[09:45] <teenie> ic
[09:45] <rdw200169> bob2, then why are you here?
[09:45] <bob2> rdw200169: to try to redress the imbalance
[09:45] <teenie> sory.. 4 dat im just xcited of exploring my ubuntu
[09:47] <mpm2> bob2 so my hostname appears to be "localhost" is that of any relevance on the internet? I'm just trying to put terms like host name and dns server into context
[09:47] <LivingTarget> xophEr: I just update breezy and I did notice a new kernel version: 2.6.12-9
[09:47] <linner> it is official folks.... tritium got my v2000z to load breezy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:47] <bob2> rdw200169: (I don't come here for support)
[09:48] <bob2> mpm2: not really, except that localhost always resolve to ip 127.0.0.1
[09:48] <mpm2> thank you Bob2
[09:48] <steely> thoreauputic:  video card rocking solid thanks, yet again
[09:48] <liz4rd> whats that vector art program called again?
[09:48] <thoreauputic> steely: :)
[09:48] <steely> god, it's like i need to have my diaper changed
[09:49] <bob2> liz4rd: inkscape
[09:49] <tritium> liz4rd, scribus
[09:49] <tritium> linner, :)
[09:49] <liz4rd> inkscape thats what it was thanks
[09:49] <tritium> yeah, inkscape.  scribus is more desktop-publishing.  sorry
[09:50] <linner> tritium, you rock :)
[09:50] <Myrtti> liz4rd: sodipodi
[09:50] <tritium> I'm just glad you're up and running :)
[09:50] <liz4rd> lol
[09:50] <liz4rd> old but alright
[09:50] <linner|AWAY> me too :)
[09:50] <linner|AWAY> i'll be back in a few minutes... need to spend some time with my sweetie :)
[09:53] <j-linux> Is there a program for Linux/Ubuntu for managing business finance, like quickbooks or peachtree?
[09:53] <Jacko115> is there a list of mirrors for the repository as the one given in the topic seems not to have breezy
[09:53] <heatxsink> j-linux:  there's one in the making
[09:53] <Madpilot> j-linux: gnucash?
[09:53] <heatxsink> called moneyclip
[09:54] <j-linux> Madpilot: I haven't tried gnucash in depth, but will look at it more.  It thought it was more of a smaller "personal" accounting software.
[09:54] <j-linux> heatxsink: I'll check out moneyclip. thanks...
[09:54] <LivingTarget> Jacko115: yes there is actually
[09:55] <joetheodd> wine quickbooks.exe
[09:55] <robitaille> Jacko115,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[09:55] <heatxsink> hehe
[09:55] <joetheodd> =p
[09:55] <LivingTarget> Jacko115: those include the breezy ones
[09:55] <dell500> how do i enable my 2nd crt monitor to act as an extended desktop, not cloned. i'm using fglrx right now, should i use radeon drivers instead?
[09:55] <j-linux> joetheodd: ok... good idea
[09:55] <j-linux> joetheodd:  but I wish there was a free software alternative
[09:55] <Wilf> which .conf file do i edit to tell the system how much ram it has?
[09:55] <joetheodd> j-linux, I'm not sure how well that'll work, but I'd give it a try
[09:55] <Wilf> it
[09:56] <Wilf> isn;t detecting it
[09:56] <thoreauputic> dell500: haven't used it, but you might be looking for xinerama
[09:56] <joetheodd> j-linux: I'm sure there is
[09:56] <joetheodd> Wilf: It doesn't autodetect?
[09:56] <j-linux> joetheodd: well... I don't have quickbooks yet.  I'd prefer not to buy it
[09:56] <joetheodd> j-linux: ah, ok, might wanna search freshmeat and stuff
[09:57] <robitaille> Wilf,   how much ram you have, and how much ubuntu thinks you have?
[09:57] <youngcoder> everytime i open firefox it starts to load and then shuts down.. anyone got any idea why?
[09:57] <joetheodd> Wilf, if Ubuntu thinks you have less ram than you actually have, you might have some bad RAM. Try memtest86.
[09:57] <j-linux> joetheodd: I will.  I looked around here:http://linuxshop.ru/linuxbegin/win-lin-soft-en/table.shtml but didn't see anything free
[09:57] <Orborde> youngcoder: When did this start?
[09:58] <youngcoder> yesterday
[09:58] <Orborde> youngcoder: You could try starting FF with the profile manager.
[09:58] <youngcoder> when i tried to uipdate firefox
[09:58] <thoreauputic> Wilf: youare probably using a 386 kernel with more than 900Mb RAM ,, right?
[09:58] <youngcoder> ok
[09:58] <joetheodd> wine Explorer.exe (no..)
[09:58] <joetheodd> er, iexplore.exe
[09:58] <youngcoder> Orborde, hoe do i start with profile manager?
[09:58] <Orborde> youngcoder: Let me look it up....
[09:59] <Wilf> heh
[09:59] <Wilf> it is a dodgy ex cash register POS machine
[09:59] <Wilf> 64mb ram
[09:59] <VoX> has the problem of apt removing libdri been fixed yet?
[09:59] <Wilf> ubuntu says: unknown
[09:59] <Jacko115> robitaille: cheers
[09:59] <Orborde> youngcoder: firefox -ProfileManager
[09:59] <thoreauputic> Wilf: ROFL - I couldn't have been more wrong :D
[09:59] <Orborde> youngcoder: Try creating a clean profile and see if you can get in that way.
[09:59] <Wilf> :P
[10:00] <youngcoder> Orborde, ok
[10:00] <Orborde> youngcoder: If so, it might be that your profile is corrupted.
[10:00] <Wilf> AMD K6-2 333mhz CPU - it doesn't detect that either
[10:00] <youngcoder> ok
[10:00] <thoreauputic> Wilf: but it's up and running OK ?
[10:00] <Wilf> kind of\
[10:00] <Wilf> yes it is up and running
[10:00] <Wilf> but at 640x480
[10:00] <Wilf> and i have no idea what the hardware specs are
[10:01] <Wilf> and it is slow as hell.
[10:01] <joetheodd> shift to the left! shift to the right! push down, pop up, byte byte byte!
[10:01] <joetheodd> The programmers cheer!
[10:01] <Wilf> much slower then my P1 166/32mb RAM machine
[10:01] <youngcoder> ok Orborde , i tried to run my default profile with profile manager and it said the profile was in use but no firefox was running
[10:01] <thoreauputic> Wilf sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:01] <glick> get a decent machine i implore you!
[10:01] <thoreauputic> Wilf: *grin*
[10:02] <joetheodd> I should try to install Ubuntu on my old 4mb RAM 68k machine
[10:02] <joetheodd> That would be pretty funny
[10:02] <Agrajag> there's no 68k ubuntu
[10:02] <Wilf> i tried it on my 486 25mhz 8mb
[10:02] <thoreauputic> Wilf: you need the twin slice toaster kernel ;)
[10:02] <Wilf> didn;t work
[10:02] <joetheodd> Error: Wtf is this piece of garbage?!
[10:02] <joetheodd> Yeah, I know
[10:03] <cevizoglu> Wilf, there's a reason for that
[10:03] <Wilf> 16 bit cpu?
[10:03] <joetheodd> Plus I don't have a keyboard nor mouse for it =p
[10:03] <glick> i thought the 68k was 32 bit
[10:04] <linuxboy_> how can i hide the disk on the desk?
[10:04] <glick> the later versions of it
[10:04] <joetheodd> 68k is from like.. the early 90s
[10:04] <linuxboy_> hello
[10:04] <danwsb> Is there any word on *why* the official repos are down?
[10:04] <glick> 68k is still a widely used chip
[10:05] <joetheodd> How do I change my resolution in KDE?
[10:05] <linuxboy_> how can i hide the disk on the desk
[10:05] <ppz> hey, if i want to get cedega/Point2Play how wold i go about that ? =)
[10:05] <Wilf> Cirrus Logic GD7548 mean anything to anyone?
[10:05] <thoreauputic> ppz: get your credit card out
[10:05] <joetheodd> glick: Yeah, so is the 8080
[10:05] <joetheodd> glick: The 8080 is used in calculators
[10:05] <youngcoder> Orborde, ?
[10:05] <Wilf> ah, it's the video card!
[10:05] <ppz> thoreauputic: no package from the cvs ?
[10:06] <tritium> good night, folks
[10:06] <linner|AWAY> tritium, hey there
[10:06] <linner|AWAY> just wanted to say thank you one more time
[10:06] <tritium> linner|AWAY, no problem :)
[10:06] <ompaul> ppz it is not free software - it costs money and it is not part of ubuntu there is a build that will work with ubuntu
[10:06] <glick> the 68k has advanced computing uses beyond the 8080
[10:06] <sauli_> arent ubuntu repositories working right now? or is the problem on my computer?
[10:06] <Orborde> youngcoder: ps ax | grep firefox
[10:06] <glick> from pda's
[10:06] <linner> good night dear :)
[10:06] <glick> to TI calculators
[10:06] <Orborde> youngcoder: Does it show anything besides grep ?
[10:06] <glick> etc, etc
[10:07] <linner> if you hear from nalioth please ask him to msg me
[10:07] <thoreauputic> tritium: ah, of course :(
[10:07] <cevizoglu> no, the 68k was 32bit
[10:07] <ppz> ompaul: ok, so i wold look for a .tgz package or another type ?
[10:07] <linner> thoreauputic, tritium got my laptop to run breezy after 7 LONG days of tries
[10:08] <ompaul> ppz, no idea don't use windows software, so therefore I don't need that stuff, however from being here I find that people use it, that is the full extent of my knowledge of it
[10:08] <linner> hey ya'll what is the IRC command for "last seen"
[10:08] <Toma-> ppz: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24373.html
[10:08] <glick> anyone here use skype?
[10:08] <glick> how is it?
[10:08] <linner> glick
[10:08] <linner> on my PC yes
[10:08] <thoreauputic> linner: yes, so I gathered! Good stuff! :))
[10:08] <linner> LOVE IT
[10:09] <ppz> thx ompaul and Toma-
[10:09] <linner> thoreauputic, just thought i'd let you know ... again :)
[10:09] <joetheodd> glick: I know my TI-83+ uses an i8080
[10:09] <glick> cause i see they have a linux version
[10:09] <youngcoder> Orborde, yes
[10:09] <linner> glick, yes I have it downloaded
[10:09] <ompaul> linner, /msg ubotu seen blah << where blah is the user name
[10:09] <linner> glick, haven't got it compiled yet though
[10:09] <hud> hmm, I just installed ubuntu for the first time, is there a sample sources.list for apt-get etc that will actually work? I get unable to connect with the sample on the wiki
[10:09] <linner> ompaul, thank you :)
[10:09] <thoreauputic> glick: skype works well
[10:09] <glick> i wonder if its only a matter of time before they sell it to some company that will put adds and spyware into it
[10:09] <youngcoder> Orborde,  8176 ?        Sl     0:00 /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox-bin -a firefox
[10:09] <youngcoder>  8527 pts/0    R+     0:00 grep firefox
[10:09] <joetheodd> http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=707 << YAY!
[10:10] <Orborde> youngcoder: Type kill 8527 -9
[10:10] <glick> heh they also use the 8080 as keyboard controllers
[10:10] <ompaul> linner, /whowas blah << where the user has gone away and you want info on what they sayd they were
[10:10] <amichai_> where do i go for dpkg probs? i dont see i in the topic anymore
[10:10] <Orborde> youngcoder: Assuming no Firefox is running.
[10:10] <Orborde> youngcoder: Close all FF windows you can first.
[10:10] <glick> i dont kow anyone else that uses skype though
[10:10] <linner> oh okay ... it's been so long since I've done this... like 1997... i've forgotten all the switches
[10:10] <youngcoder> Orborde, bash: kill: (8527) - No such process
[10:10] <youngcoder> bash: kill: (-9) - No such process
[10:10] <hud> hmm, I just installed ubuntu for the first time, is there a sample sources.list for apt-get etc that will actually work? I get unable to connect with the sample on the wiki (please /msg me)
[10:11] <thoreauputic> glick: several people here use it
[10:11] <Orborde> youngcoder: Do ps ax | grep firefox again.
[10:11] <HaNazir> anyone else having apt-get errors?
[10:11] <hud> hanazir: me too
[10:11] <Orborde> HaNazir: TOPIC
[10:11] <thoreauputic> HaNazir:  /topic
[10:11] <hud> tryiah
[10:11] <hud> ah
[10:11] <linner> ompaul, actually the last command didn't work
[10:11] <hud> he gets an answer but not me, you guys are poopy
[10:11] <hud> :P
[10:11] <HaNazir> thoreauputic, i dont see it in the topic anymore
[10:11] <HaNazir> ah ok
[10:11] <youngcoder> Orborde,  8176 ?        Sl     0:00 /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox-bin -a firefox
[10:12] <youngcoder>  8569 pts/0    S+     0:00 grep firefox
[10:12] <Orborde> youngcoder: kill -9 8176
[10:12] <leon> hello everyone
[10:12] <Toma-> youngcoder: what are u trying to accomplish?
[10:12] <Orborde> Toma-: His Firefox is crashing at startup.
[10:12] <cevizoglu> HaNazir, the first line of the topic
[10:12] <youngcoder> Toma-, i am trying to get my default FF profile out of use
[10:12] <youngcoder> Orborde, no error
[10:13] <youngcoder> let me check it nwo
[10:13] <ompaul> linner, check under the tab ubuntu servers
[10:13] <cevizoglu> oops
[10:13] <Orborde> youngcoder: Okay, start Firefox and try creating a clean profile.
[10:13] <linner> is there an easy setting for my laptop power options?
[10:13] <linner> ompaul, ok
[10:13] <youngcoder> Orborde, i only show grep now
[10:13] <Orborde> youngcoder: With profile manager.
[10:13] <Orborde> youngcoder: yeah, it's dead.
[10:13] <Toma-> for some stupid reasn the firefox script makes all debugging output goto null. stoopid
[10:14] <cevizoglu> Toma-, because all shipped software does just that
[10:14] <Toma-> its sad :(
[10:15] <youngcoder> Orborde, so i lose all my favorites and bookmarks?
[10:15] <glick> how do i unstall the skype deb file?
[10:15] <linner> !tell linner about laptops
[10:15] <glick> just dpkg -i skype.deb?
[10:15] <linner> hmm...
[10:15] <thoreauputic> glick: yep
[10:15] <linner> !tell linner about wifi
[10:15] <Toma-> why not use apt?
[10:16] <Orborde> youngcoder: We can recover them once we have FF working.
[10:16] <leon> howto choose the fastest mirror, like netselect-apt in debian?
[10:16] <HaNazir> ok i did that fix and i still cant update
[10:16] <thoreauputic> Toma-: the apt version of skype has some issues on breezy I believe
[10:16] <Toma-> i see
[10:17] <HaNazir> i get could not connect to
[10:17] <thoreauputic> Toma-: the static version seems to work OK
[10:17] <ohphracku> The ubuntu community is doing a great job! I got several friends who have no expertise with linux to migrate to ubuntu, they all "really like ubuntu"
[10:17] <youngcoder> ok Orborde when i start FF it brings up profile manager and says that the new profile i created is in use
[10:17] <sauli_> is there some problem with ubuntu repository servers?
[10:17] <Orborde> youngcoder: Hmm...weird.
[10:17] <Orborde> sauli_: /topic
[10:17] <ohphracku> yes their down
[10:17] <thoreauputic> sauli_:  /topic
[10:18] <Orborde> thoreauputic: I win.
[10:18] <ohphracku> hehe
[10:18] <robotgeek> youngcoder: then you must have another copy of firefox running somewhere
[10:18] <thoreauputic> Orborde: easily ;-)
[10:18] <HaNazir> thoreauputic, sudo apt-get upgrade dpkg, not working
[10:18] <Orborde> HaNazir: Because the repos are down.
[10:18] <sauli_> ohups, its just too up for mee to see it :)
[10:18] <robotgeek> HaNazir: you have to change mirrors, see /topic
[10:18] <thoreauputic> HaNazir: of course it won't work if the server is down... ?
[10:19] <linner> !tell me about ndiswrapper
[10:19] <HaNazir> well everyone is saying a different thing
[10:19] <youngcoder> robotgeek, no ff process shown running in system monitor
[10:19] <robotgeek> HaNazir: i know, things are a bit crazy!
[10:19] <robotgeek> youngcoder: ps -ef | grep firefox
[10:20] <Orborde> robotgeek: I had youngcoder kill FF using ps ax + grep + kill
[10:20] <robotgeek> youngcoder: weird, though
[10:20] <ohphracku> bbl
[10:20] <robotgeek> Orborde: :)
[10:20] <youngcoder> ok ps -ef | gerp firefox done
[10:20] <HaNazir> robotgeek, lol. i'll just come back in a couple of hours :)
[10:21] <youngcoder> now what?
[10:21] <glick> hmm
[10:21] <glick> i have problems installing
[10:21] <sauli_> does anybody have guess when will archive.ubuntu.com come back?
[10:21] <cantona_> apt or aptitute is better? i mean apt install|upgrade|dist-upgrade vs aptitute install|upgrade|dist-upgrade
[10:21] <glick> i get something about a dependancy problem
[10:21] <Wilf> what are the keys to swich run levels again?
[10:21] <Wilf> ctrl+alt+fx?
[10:21] <glick> when i add the repository in synaptic as explained in the skype howto in the wiki
[10:22] <thoreauputic> glick: yes - try the static package on the site
[10:22] <Madpilot> cantona_: Synaptic > *   ;)
[10:22] <Orborde> youngcoder: Try making *another* profile for now?
[10:22] <ompaul> +r anyone
[10:23] <Orborde> youngcoder: If that doesn't work, you could try sudo apt-get install --reinstall mozilla-firefox , assuming you are lucky enough to have the package cached locally.
[10:23] <Orborde> youngcoder: You could also try #firefox
[10:23] <youngcoder> ok
[10:23] <procrastinator> why connection refused on archive.ubuntu.com
[10:23] <procrastinator> ?
[10:24] <VoX> procrastinator: type '/topic'
[10:24] <Orborde> youngcoder: And I think Mozilla has their own IRC servers you can try, too.
[10:24] <procrastinator> VoX: Oh. Duh.
[10:24] <rikugun> is there someone could speak chinese to me?
[10:24] <VoX> heh
[10:24] <cantona_> maddler: no gui
[10:25] <youngcoder> ok
[10:25] <youngcoder> Orborde, i got errors
[10:25] <Orborde> youngcoder: Doing what?
[10:26] <leon> 
[10:26] <cantona_> leon: most of ppl in here dont know chinese
[10:26] <spiral> Could not connect to uk.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (82.211.81.182). - connect (111 Connection refused) [IP: 82.211.81.182 80] 
[10:26] <spiral> is it normal ?
[10:26] <thoreauputic> spiral: /topic
[10:26] <robotgeek> spiral: /topic
[10:27] <robotgeek> thoreauputic: :)
[10:27] <spiral> oh sorry...
[10:27] <thoreauputic> robotgeek: well I had to win one today at least ;)
[10:27] <steely> how do i find out what to call my cd rom drive in the root command prompt?
[10:27] <trygvebw> what's going on with the Breezy repository?
[10:27] <steely> to run ls -la?
[10:27] <trygvebw> is the server down?
[10:28] <Orborde> trygvebw: /topic
[10:28] <thoreauputic> steely: ls -l /dev/cdrom ?
[10:28] <trygvebw> oh
[10:28] <trygvebw> Orbman: thanks.. :)
[10:28] <Orborde> We should really keep score on who can say /topic first.
[10:28] <steely> thanks
[10:28] <thoreauputic> steely: or do you want to view files? /media/cdrom
[10:29] <steely> no, that was the answer
[10:29] <thoreauputic> steely: OK
[10:29] <steely> almost ok, so far
[10:30] <youngcoder> the apt-get reinstall commande Orborde
[10:31] <ppz> hmm, how about Nvidia drivers ?
[10:31] <youngcoder> broken pipe Orborde
[10:32] <glick> hey, i thought that whatever i put in my ./bin folder will automatically be put into my path
[10:32] <StrikeForce> is everyone else getting connection revused?
[10:32] <ormandj> read /topic :)
[10:32] <Orborde> youngcoder: If you don't already have the package stored locally, you're kind of SOL until the repositories come back. Or you could read the topic and try a mirror.
[10:32] <glick> but its not working anymore
[10:32] <Orborde> StrikeForce: /topc
[10:32] <VoX> StrikeForce: look at the topic
[10:32] <ormandj> orborde: beat you beat you :P
[10:32] <StrikeForce> ahh k
[10:32] <StrikeForce> lol
[10:32] <Orborde> ormandj: That was indeed fast.
[10:32] <youngcoder> Orborde, omg just noticed the topic lol
[10:32] <StrikeForce> I can't see the whole topic in xchat :(
[10:32] <leon> anyone in china? is there any archive mirror fast enough?
[10:32] <VoX> ormandj: yes but it wasn't directed at him :P
[10:33] <ormandj> vox: well, that's because i made a macro for a keypress to output it :P
[10:33] <VoX> 18:32:59 -!- Topic for #ubuntu: yes, archive.ubuntu.com is down, chill out; mirrors at wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive | Official Ubuntu Help channel | Colony 5 is out: http://tinyurl.com/85dry | Upgrading to breezy? http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes | Documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation | Use paste.ubuntulinux.nl for pasting | Found a bug?
[10:33] <ompaul> StrikeForce do a >>/topic<<
[10:33] <VoX>  http://buzilla.ubuntu.com | Firefox bproblems? -> see http://tinyurl.com/8cv9q | x-common problems -> upgrade dpkg
[10:33] <Orborde> ormandj: You are the cheet.
[10:33] <ormandj> orborde: i like to win :P
[10:33] <ompaul> VoX, no need a user can hit that command themeselves :)
[10:33] <youngcoder> StrikeForce, lol yes you can hover your mouse over the topic
[10:33] <Orborde> ormandj: I'm just angry because I don't know how to assign triggers/scripts in Xchat.
[10:34] <StrikeForce> youngcoder, I didn't know that :) thanks
[10:34] <Shaoqi> i'm having problems with synaptic, i cant reload packages or install packages, i receive error messages instead. anyone can help with this?
[10:34] <VoX> ompaul: i took what he said to mean that /topic wasnt showing everything :P
[10:34] <ormandj> x-chat menu
[10:34] <StrikeForce> no I know that command
[10:34] <ormandj> load plugin/script
[10:34] <tristanmike> mp3 is gstreamer0.8-mad and what other package?
[10:34] <ormandj> :)
[10:34] <Orborde> Shaoqi: /topic
[10:34] <youngcoder> StrikeForce, your welcome
[10:34] <Shaoqi> ok. sorry
[10:34] <Shaoqi> Orborde, thanks
[10:34] <Orborde> Shaoqi: S'okay.
[10:35] <Madpilot> !tell tristanmike about mp3
[10:35] <emile> from what pkg/source/file does ubuntu get its sources.list during install?
[10:35] <HiddenFly> when i boot, i get error "Special device /dev/sda6 does not exist" and it doesnt mount my sata drive. however i can mount it after logging in, how to fix that?
[10:36] <glick> can i try my skype?
[10:36] <ormandj> emile: dunno, i just made an internal dns server which points it to my mirror :)
[10:36] <glick> can i call someone?
[10:36] <ormandj> or you could use transparent redirection
[10:36] <tristanmike> Madpilot, thanx, I've been there, I'm just trying to seperate the individual packages and not all of the other ones, and of course w32codecs isn't available anymore
[10:36] <emile> ormandj: if i want to restore the original sources.list what to do?
[10:37] <draug_n> HiddenFly: seems like you're not loading the scsi modules at boot..
[10:37] <ormandj> tristanmike, that's easy. its on the mplayer website i think
[10:37] <HiddenFly> draug_n: ok, how can i do that?
[10:37] <glick> can i call someone on skype?
[10:37] <glick> to test mine?
[10:37] <emile> glick: echo123 for skype testing
[10:37] <thoreauputic> glick: you can skype me on " thoreauputic' if you like ;-)
[10:38] <glick> thanks emile, thoreauputic
[10:38] <LivingTarget> i wrote a little guide about how to change your mirror service, hope it helps:
[10:38] <LivingTarget> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=370159&postcount=18
[10:38] <ormandj> good work LivingTarget :)
[10:38] <ormandj> glick: i dont have skype, sorry
[10:39] <ormandj> when ebay bought them, i deleted it :P
[10:39] <ormandj> read /topic
[10:39] <ormandj> :P
[10:39] <ormandj> ok bbl friends :)
[10:39] <robotgeek> tristanmike: you can also get torrents at http://giannaros.org/tor/bt/
[10:39] <holycow> myth tv with a remot is damned addictive
[10:40] <youngcoder> ok
[10:41] <tristanmike> robotgeek, now that's cool, thanx
[10:41] <draug_n> HiddenFly: edit /etc/mkinitrd/modules and add sd_mod and scsi_mod. you might also ned a drvier for the sata controller (i use sata_nv, as i have an nvidia mobo)
[10:41] <youngcoder> Orborde, i used synaptic to remove then install firefox.. i lost everything but it works again
[10:41] <draug_n> s/ned/need/
[10:41] <HiddenFly> k
[10:41] <youngcoder> Orborde, it could be worse :)
[10:41] <robotgeek> tristanmike: :)
[10:41] <Orborde> youngcoder: You may yet be able to recover your bookmarks from ~/.mozilla
[10:42] <HiddenFly> draug_n: so i just put there "sd_mod" and nothing else to a line, right?
[10:42] <tristanmike> robotgeek, a big =)
[10:42] <youngcoder> Orborde, i will see if i can
[10:42] <DualCore> how can i access a shared folder from a windows PC? it asks me for a username and password?
[10:42] <blekos> morning ppl
[10:42] <daejavu> hello to all
[10:42] <robotgeek> tristanmike: i know cause i made them :). but apokryhpos hosts them!
[10:42] <blekos> it's a beatiful day round here
[10:42] <blekos> :)
[10:43] <DualCore> gud day blekos
[10:43] <DualCore> :)
[10:43] <robotgeek> blekos: it's 4:00 am , and i am going to grab another beer!
[10:43] <tristanmike> robotgeek, good man (i assume) yourself, same with apokryhpos too
[10:43] <blekos> do u have any probs with the repositories 2day?
[10:43] <blekos> lol...
[10:43] <glick> sweet
[10:43] <DualCore> i do
[10:43] <blekos> where u from robot?
[10:43] <glick> skype is nice
[10:43] <robotgeek> blekos: /topic
[10:43] <benplaut> i'm on a laptop with an external CRT. When i'm just using the laptop screen, moniter not connected, videos work fine. When i am on both moniters, with the laptop closed and the moniter as my only screen, the sound will play, but the video shows up black. Any suggestions? It does this on all media players...
[10:44] <tristanmike> robotgeek, is that posted in the forums?
[10:44] <blekos> sorry :)
[10:44] <daejavu> ive downloaded drivers for my S3Unichrome vga chipset ... its comes in 2 files .. a Kernel Src and Bin in tgz format .. which one should i install first ?
[10:44] <robotgeek> blekos: me from tx,usa
[10:44] <blekos> here it's only 12... :)
[10:44] <robotgeek> tristanmike: i don't think so
[10:44] <blekos> njoy ur beer
[10:44] <youngcoder> Orborde, what extension should my bookmarks file have?
[10:44] <robotgeek> blekos: thanks!
[10:44] <robotgeek> youngcoder: .html
[10:44] <Orborde> youngcoder: Filename is bookmark.html
[10:44] <DualCore> can anybody help me share a linux folder that is accessible from a windows PC?
[10:44] <tristanmike> robotgeek, do you mind if i post, i'll credit you and apokryhpos
[10:45] <benplaut> herm
[10:45] <benplaut> some bots in here tonight...
[10:45] <Orborde> DualCore: Are you trying to access a folder on a Linux machine from a Windows one?
[10:45] <draug_n> HiddenFly: yes. one module per line
[10:45] <tristanmike> robotgeek, there are people looking for it in a post I see
[10:45] <blekos> if i may say so Ubuntu rocks...
[10:46] <DualCore> yes Orborde
[10:46] <robotgeek> tristanmike: go right ahead!
[10:46] <blekos> with a few hands on things...
[10:46] <Orborde> DualCore: You need to get samba
[10:46] <tristanmike> thanx
[10:46] <DualCore> it asks me for a username and password
[10:46] <robotgeek> tristanmike: please do seed!
[10:46] <Orborde> DualCore: Okay.
[10:46] <DualCore> im lost :)
[10:46] <HiddenFly> draug_n: there reads in that file that i should run something like mkinitrd(8) after it, what is that?
[10:46] <tristanmike> sure
[10:46] <Orborde> DualCore: Try the username/password of a user on the hosting computer ?
[10:46] <daejavu> ive downloaded drivers for my S3Unichrome vga chipset ... its comes in 2 files .. a Kernel Src and Bin in tgz format .. which one should i install first ?
[10:46] <HaNazir> i'm using mutt so i start, then press c and then enter pops://username@gmail.com/ and it says connecting all the time any ideas?
[10:46] <DualCore> i did dat... nothing happens
[10:46] <HiddenFly> i typed it to console but it gave me an error :/
[10:47] <Orborde> DualCore: *Nothing* happens?
[10:47] <youngcoder> ok Orborde it doesnt seem to be recoverabl;e
[10:47] <draug_n> HiddenFly: sudo mkinirtd should do the trick...
[10:47] <youngcoder> no biggie though
[10:47] <Orborde> DualCore: You're working from the Windows machine, right?
[10:47] <HiddenFly> k
[10:47] <DualCore> yes.. it returns to the prompt... asking me the usename and password
[10:47] <DualCore> yes
[10:47] <draug_n> *mikinitrd
[10:47] <Orborde> youngcoder: Sorry. Should have told you to save the file before I had you reinstall. My bad.
[10:47] <HiddenFly> bash: mkinirtd: command not found
[10:48] <Orborde> HiddenFly: Could try spelling it right.
[10:48] <youngcoder> nah i used synaptic without being told knowing it would prolly do that
[10:48] <DualCore> do i need to set a username and password somewhere?
[10:48] <HiddenFly> it tells me some parameters now i should use that i have no idea about :P
[10:48] <Orborde> DualCore: How are you going about connecting to the share?
[10:48] <robotgeek> HiddenFly: it's mkinitrd
[10:48] <HiddenFly> yea i know
[10:49] <robotgeek> HiddenFly: ok
[10:49] <DualCore> ok.. i wanted to share my documents folder and i right clicked on it and then clicked on share folder
[10:49] <daejavu> Can anyone help me ?  with some driver issues ?
[10:49] <HiddenFly> it gave me now some parameters i should use but i have no idea what to use and how
[10:50] <Orborde> DualCore: You're trying to access a share hosted on a Windows machine from a Linux one?
[10:50] <joetheodd> Wheres the sources.list file located?
[10:50] <tristanmike> robotgeek, all that's needed is a "sudo dpkg -i <filename>" right?
[10:50] <DualCore> no.. im trying to access a shared linux folder from my windows ps
[10:50] <robotgeek> daejavu: it's better to state your issues. maybe someone will know
[10:50] <DualCore> pc*
[10:50] <Orborde> joetheodd: /etc/apt/sources.list I think.
[10:50] <robotgeek> tristanmike: yip
[10:50] <daejavu> robotgeek, ive downloaded drivers for my S3Unichrome vga chipset ... its comes in 2 files .. a Kernel Src and Bin in tgz format .. which one should i install first ?
[10:50] <tristanmike> I'm getting the hang of this Linux thing
[10:50] <tristanmike> :)
[10:51] <_rb_> hey whats the deal with libc6 ? why wont my ubuntu upgrade to what its supposed to be ?
[10:51] <Orborde> DualCore: Okay.
[10:51] <robotgeek> daejavu: isn't there a readme file?
[10:51] <Orborde> DualCore: So how are you trying to access the share once you have it set up?
[10:51] <benplaut> tristanmike: you _are_ one of the more active people around here...
[10:51] <draug_n> HiddenFly: sudo mkinitrd -o /boot/initrd.img-sata; sudo ln -sf /boot initrd.img-sata initrd.img
[10:51] <Orborde> DualCore: Or is it asking for a password when you click "Share Folder" ?
[10:51] <DualCore> nope
[10:51] <HiddenFly> draug_n: ok thanks
[10:51] <robotgeek> tristanmike: you been here longer than i've been around!
[10:51] <_rb_> says that its up to the most recent version BD I KNOW THERE ARE NEWER ONES
[10:52] <daejavu> robotgeek, yes there is ... but i was hoping someone has the same chip and might help me from his experience :)
[10:52] <draug_n> HiddenFly: try that and reboot
[10:52] <slibs> can you guys help me get mkv videos work?
[10:52] <vinboy> hi
[10:52] <vinboy> when willl the Breezy get released?
[10:52] <DualCore> from the windows network neighborhood... i can see the linux folder that i shared
[10:52] <Orborde> vinboy: Next month.
[10:52] <vinboy> i'm looking toward it
[10:52] <vinboy> really?
[10:52] <vinboy> tat is cool
[10:52] <tristanmike> robotgeek, no way
[10:52] <DualCore> and then when i double click on it.. it ask for a username and pass
[10:52] <HiddenFly> draug_n: ln: when making multiple links, last argument must be a directory
[10:52] <joetheodd> Oborde: Thanks
[10:53] <_rb_> anyone else having trouble with libc6 versions ?
[10:53] <Orborde> DualCore: I would expect that you would have to punch in the username/password that you use on the Linux box.
[10:53] <_rb_> basically cant update anything else coz it keeps holding them back
[10:53] <robotgeek> tristanmike: i think i remember you being in #ubuntu when i got here!
[10:53] <DualCore> that's what i did but it wont let me in
[10:53] <xophEr> Why is there not a driver for logitech mice that will work 'out-of-the-box' (all the button etc)? Or is there?
[10:53] <tristanmike> robotgeek, i came in june
[10:53] <slibs> hey? anyone familiar with mkv(matroska) videos in linux?
[10:53] <draug_n> my bad HiddenFly, it should be sudo ln -sf /boot/initrd.img-sata /boot/initrd.img
[10:53] <tristanmike> cool
[10:53] <HiddenFly> k
[10:54] <DualCore> im so confused, hehe
[10:54] <Orborde> xophEr: My mouse works...and it's a Logitech...but I doubt that helps much. :)
[10:54] <robotgeek> tristanmike: i think i might have joined in june too :)
[10:54] <Orborde> DualCore: Try the username/password that you use on the Windows machine, maybe?
[10:54] <HaNazir> i want to have my desktop be the mail server, meaning HaNazir@HaNazir.com how would i do that?
[10:54] <tristanmike> robotgeek, nice, I thought you were the same person on the forums.
[10:55] <Orborde> HaNazir: If you want a .com address and not just an IP number, you're going to have to buy it.
[10:55] <robotgeek> tristanmike: i am!
[10:55] <HaNazir> Orborde,IP is ok, but i dont have a static ip :(
[10:55] <[LethAL] > HaNazir, there are a few domains which you can get for free, however, such as ath.cx
[10:55] <_rb_> is security.ubuntu.com down too ?
[10:55] <Orborde> DualCore: I assume you've checked that the machines are talking to one another?
[10:55] <[LethAL] > HaNazir, And these are designed for dynamic IPs
[10:56] <Orborde> _rb_: /topic
[10:56] <_rb_> yeah, it says archive.ubuntu etc. is it the same thing ?
[10:56] <daejavu> how can i install my Current Kernel Source from CD  ?
[10:56] <Orborde> _rb_: Oh, sorry. Yes.
[10:56] <tristanmike> robotgeek, wow, you seem really advanced from your posts
[10:56] <HaNazir> [LethAL] , how would i do it man?
[10:56] <Orborde> _rb_: All the official repos are down.
[10:56] <DualCore> yes
[10:56] <[LethAL] > HaNazir, PM?
[10:56] <_rb_> sweet. any clues on when its getting back up ?
[10:56] <DualCore> i can access the windows pc from the linux machine
[10:56] <HaNazir> [LethAL] , i'm realy new to it. i just need the privacy
[10:56] <HaNazir> [LethAL] , sure
[10:57] <GrannyTux> what happened to the repos why are they down
[10:57] <cevizoglu> _rb_, why don't you use one from here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive while you're waiting for it to come back up?
[10:57] <daejavu> how can i install my Current Kernel Source from CD  ?
[10:57] <DualCore> i can copy and edit files in the windows pc from my linux machine
[10:57] <Orborde> GrannyTux: We're guessing the webserver software blew up.
[10:57] <Orborde> DualCore: Okay.
[10:57] <cevizoglu> GrannyTux, read my last comment
[10:57] <Orborde> DualCore: That's a good sign.
[10:57] <HaNazir> GrannyTux, down time :(
[10:57] <daejavu> robotgeek, an i install my Current Kernel Source from CD  ?
[10:58] <robotgeek> tristanmike: i have been playing with linux for about over an year now, though. ubuntu is about 6 months or so
[10:58] <DualCore> wew... getting confused... hehe
[10:58] <robotgeek> daejavu: from the live/install cd?
[10:58] <_rb_> erm. guess that'd be okay, all i need is to update libc6. its noyt playing ball. cant seem to upgrade past 2.3.2.dsl-20
[10:58] <neotrophy_> Anyone know of a good automated backup tool that doesn't require too much setup and will work on OS X as well as ubuntu?
[10:58] <Orborde> DualCore: And you have Samba server set up, right? Not NFS.
[10:58] <robotgeek> neotrophy_: automating is just putting a script in a cron job :)
[10:59] <HiddenFly> draug_n: didnt work :/
[10:59] <Orborde> DualCore: You would be able to access the Windows machine even without the samba server.
[10:59] <DualCore> yes
[10:59] <daejavu> robotgeek, ummm yeah .. actually the readme file says to install kernel headers to /usr/src/linux-2.4 direc .. which i think is the kernels source direct ..which i dont have
[11:00] <daejavu> robotgeek, so how can i install it ?
[11:00] <tristanmike> robotgeek, nice, I look forward to a long life with Ubuntu and Linux in general, I'm so glad Ubuntu was my first real experience with Linux
[11:00] <robotgeek> daejavu: okay, in ubuntu, all kernels are 2.6 AFAIK.
[11:00] <Orborde> DualCore: Not sure what to tell you. Sorry. Try looking up smb.conf
[11:00] <robotgeek> tristanmike: i've seen bad times with linux, but i am glad that ubuntu worked out for both u and me!
[11:01] <DualCore> ok... i found a website that might help with the smb.conf
[11:01] <tristanmike> robotgeek, can I pm you for a sec
[11:01] <DualCore> thanks
[11:01] <neotrophy_> robotgeek: Yeah, I dont' really like crontab, but if I needed to, I can do that.  The problem is that the Mac is usually connected by an 802.11b network, so I want to be able to do the mac side of things manually (when it's plugged into an wirened network connection).
[11:01] <robotgeek> tristanmike: go ahead
[11:02] <robotgeek> neotrophy_: there was something called unison, which i used. worked for me. no longer under development
[11:02] <daejavu> robotgeek, so how can i get that ? :)
[11:03] <neotrophy_> Had a bit of a scare today.  Want to get things set up to be as transparent and foolproof as possible/
[11:03] <_rb_> hey anyone able to tell me the name of that song that constantine puts on in his home with the jazz in it, right before his mate comes around with the dragon breath gun
[11:03] <robotgeek> daejavu: if u are connected to the net, try apt-get install linux-kernel-headers-`uname -r`
[11:04] <alpopel> hi.. i've just a little question.. when will breezy release???
[11:04] <daejavu> robotgeek, will that install only the headers or the source as well ?
[11:04] <robotgeek> daejavu: only the headers
[11:04] <blekos> october most probably
[11:04] <alpopel> isn't there an exact date??
[11:04] <neotrophy_> robotgeek: I found the unison web page...  It looks like just the thing! :)
[11:04] <robotgeek> alpopel: oct 13, i think
[11:04] <robotgeek> neotrophy_: cool :)
[11:04] <alpopel> alright. thx
[11:05] <blekos> mayb
[11:05] <draug_n> HiddenFly: oh well. then i'm stumped :(
[11:05] <daejavu> robotgeek, so what would i have to do for the source ? (iam sorry i keep bugging u .. i c ur preety busy already :-)  )
[11:05] <blekos> but breezy preview works fine with me
[11:05] <blekos> then will do just the upgrade think
[11:05] <robotgeek> daejavu: my guess is that you would need to compile the driver against the source (sometimes, kernel headers are enough)
[11:05] <alpopel> well. i'll try breezy next weekend. today i'm going to go to italy!
[11:05] <alpopel> :D
[11:06] <robotgeek> daejavu: bug me all u want, here to help!
[11:06] <blekos> cool whichi part of italy>
[11:06] <blekos> ?
[11:06] <alpopel> toscana
[11:06] <blekos> great
[11:06] <blekos> where r u now?
[11:06] <alpopel> to "viareggio" i think
[11:06] <joetheodd> Where can I download yacc?
[11:06] <alpopel> cologne, germany
[11:06] <blekos> hallo Deutschland...
[11:06] <alpopel> hallo ^^
[11:07] <blekos> Italy is nice
[11:07] <blekos> so is Germany :))
[11:07] <alpopel> hmm. not in cologne. stuttgart is great!
[11:07] <daejavu> robotgeek, ok .. so if i just isntall the headers as u said .. it will create the directory /usr/src/linux-2.6.    right ?
[11:07] <blekos> been in Munich for a couple of times
[11:07] <alpopel> i've been there
[11:07] <alpopel> :(
[11:07] <blekos> didn't like it?
[11:07] <robotgeek> daejavu: yup
[11:07] <tristanmike> thanx all, good nite
[11:08] <alpopel> oh. i haven't been there! sry
[11:08] <cevizoglu> joetheodd, byacc?
[11:08] <alpopel> berlin is great, too!
[11:08] <joetheodd> cevizoglu: Maybe, its something that flex needs
[11:08] <blekos> i heard so... i was to go on January, but something came up...
[11:08] <daejavu> robotgeek,  thanks dude .. lemme c what happens then .. hope i get something out of that shitty driver ;)
[11:08] <alpopel> got to go.. have to help my mother. her birthday is today..
[11:08] <alpopel> :(
[11:09] <blekos> HAPPY BDAY
[11:09] <alpopel> i'll tell her
[11:09] <alpopel> bye
[11:09] <blekos> :)
[11:09] <blekos> bye
[11:10] <robotgeek> daejavu: np
[11:10] <gedeblog> REGISTER <o12345u>
[11:13] <floppyears|home> hi
[11:13] <floppyears|home> in my kern.log messages and syslog
[11:13] <aftertaf> like the topic bob2 ... was about to panic :)
[11:13] <floppyears|home> I have a lot of entries like the following
[11:13] <Seveas> gedeblog, /msg nickserv set password new_password
[11:13] <floppyears|home> Sep 25 02:13:00 Alexandra-Debian kernel: PROTO=6 127.0.0.1:48063 127.0.0.1:6600 L=52 S=0x00 I=2226 F=0x4000 T=64
[11:13] <floppyears|home> Sep 25 02:13:00 Alexandra-Debian kernel: ip_local_deliver: bad skb: PRE_ROUTING LOCAL_IN LOCAL_OUT POST_ROUTING
[11:13] <floppyears|home> Sep 25 02:13:00 Alexandra-Debian kernel: skb: pf=2 (unowned) dev=lo len=58
[11:13] <floppyears|home> what's causing them ?
[11:13] <floppyears|home> how can I stop them?
[11:14] <renedox> hello #ubuntu
[11:14] <floppyears|home> they are using up a lot of space :(
[11:14] <zone17> Hi, whats up with the apt achives?
[11:14] <Seveas> zone17, /topic
[11:14] <renedox> dunno
[11:14] <bigfoot1> hello everyone. How can I find out the IP address by examining an email I received.
[11:14] <bigfoot1> ?
[11:14] <zone17> I am getting failed to fetch on all accounts
[11:14] <Seveas> bigfoot1, the last Received: header
[11:15] <NsOmNiAc> headers
[11:15] <zone17> k sorry
[11:16] <teenie> how to install ym in ubuntu?
[11:16] <renedox> teenie: have you tried gaim?
[11:16] <[LethAL] > teenie, use Gaim
[11:16] <tamarack> is anyone here running breezy?
[11:16] <Seveas> tamarack, lots
[11:16] <teenie> yes im using gaim ryt now
[11:17] <VoX> i am
[11:17] <[LethAL] > tamarack, I am
[11:17] <tamarack> are your repos broken?
[11:17] <gedeblog> thx Seveas :)
[11:17] <Seveas> tamarack, /topic
[11:17] <[LethAL] > tamarack, Topic
[11:17] <VoX> tamarack: see /tpoic
[11:17] <joetheodd> tamarack: yes
[11:17] <tamarack> I haven't been able to reload them
[11:17] <tamarack> ACK
[11:17] <VoX> */topic
[11:17] <tamarack> sorry
[11:17] <teenie> (Reading database ... 86548 files and directories currently installed.)
[11:17] <teenie> Unpacking ymessenger (from ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb) ...
[11:17] <teenie> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of ymessenger:
[11:17] <teenie>  ymessenger depends on libgdk-pixbuf2 (>= 0.13.0); however:
[11:17] <teenie>   Package libgdk-pixbuf2 is not installed.
[11:17] <teenie>  ymessenger depends on libssl0.9.6; however:
[11:17] <teenie>   Package libssl0.9.6 is not installed.
[11:17] <renedox> teenie: what's wrong with it? gaim is better than Y!M IMHO
[11:17] <tamarack> I just woke up
[11:17] <Seveas> NEVER paste in here
[11:17] <tamarack> thanks
[11:17] <tamarack> forgive me :)
[11:17] <KWizzard> I run Breezy too
[11:18] <indypende> no one had a webcam working?
[11:18] <Seveas> /mode #ubuntru +b *!*@213.213*
[11:18] <Seveas> /mode #ubuntu +b *!*@213.213*
[11:18] <Seveas> heh?!?
[11:18] <[LethAL] > LOL
[11:18] <Seveas> I don't get it, xchat is failing me :)
[11:19] <[LethAL] > :(
[11:19] <talky> Does any know how can i modiy the modem chat script so that i can issue conmand at my will , is there any package available for doing such thing?
[11:19] <robotgeek> Seveas: time to get irssi!
[11:19] <bina> anyone having ne problems with the Universe repos?
[11:19] <Seveas> bina, /topic
[11:19] <bina> Seveas: lol, oh yes :) thanks
[11:19] <Cryptid> is the synaptic server up ?????????????????
[11:20] <Seveas> Cryptid, /topic
[11:20] <robotgeek> Seveas: :)
[11:20] <Seveas> it's the first thing you see when joining
[11:20] <Seveas> READ it
[11:20] <aftertaf> Seveas: xept noone reads it ;)
[11:20] <Orborde-sleep> Reading is for nerds.
[11:21] <Orborde-sleep> Well, you *are* using Linux...
[11:21] <aftertaf> neds will inherit the earth
[11:21] <aftertaf> +r
[11:21] <Cryptid> Seveas, now how do i get the packages from wiki.ubuntu.com/Archives
[11:22] <robotgeek> aftertaf: now u are talking like bill gates!
[11:22] <GrannyTux> dl them and install manually
[11:22] <LivingTarget> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=370159&postcount=18
[11:22] <ompaul> Cryptid, you wait like us all.
[11:22] <leongoo> anyone tried netselect-apt-ubuntu?
[11:22] <Seveas> Cryptid, those are mirrors, you put them in sources.list
[11:22] <ompaul> ahh right me brain
[11:22] <cevizoglu> ompaul, there is no wait, I just downloaded some packages
[11:23] <ompaul> Seveas, thanks
[11:23] <Orborde-sleep> cevizoglu: From mirror?
[11:23] <cevizoglu> Orborde-sleep, go change to a mirror, yes
[11:23] <bigfoot1> Seveas, thanks for the info (last "received" header). if someone is using a webmail account, I can't pinpoint where in the world that person sent that email from , can I?
[11:24] <Orborde-sleep> bigfoot1: Go google whois
[11:24] <teen> ei
[11:24] <Cryptid> Seveas, will please tell me how do i edit my source.list file and where and how should i add that mirror i am new so please help :-s
[11:24] <teen> how about mirc in ubuntu?
[11:24] <carm> is security.ubuntu.com somewhat down? i can ping it but my apt wont connect...
[11:24] <aftertaf> Cryptid: open synaptic, go to depots
[11:24] <robotgeek> teen: nope
[11:24] <aftertaf> carm /topic
[11:24] <cevizoglu> !tell Cryptid about sources
[11:24] <teen> ic
[11:24] <Orborde-sleep> carm: /topic
[11:24] <teen> voice cahat in gaim?
[11:24] <frans-th> hi all
[11:24] <carm> ups..  :)
[11:24] <robotgeek> teen: nope
[11:24] <NsOmNiAc> what about mirc ?
[11:24] <glick> why in gods name would you  wanna use mirc when you dont have to
[11:25] <Orborde-sleep> teen: Negative. Sorry.
[11:25] <ompaul> teen, there is xchat and it works
[11:25] <NsOmNiAc> there is BitchX .. .irssi... Xchat
[11:25] <robotgeek> teen: there is also irssi :)
[11:25] <ompaul> Orborde-sleep, don't be sorry :)
[11:25] <Orborde-sleep> teen: Ubuntu comes with Xchat
[11:25] <NsOmNiAc> if your looking for a GUI then check out Xchat
[11:25] <teen> im a cafe owner
[11:25] <aftertaf> kubuntu komes with konversation
[11:25] <Orborde-sleep> ompaul: Well, it would be nice if Gaim occasionally worked with some of the more non-text messaging features of other clients.
[11:26] <Cryptid> aftertaf, i dont find ne depots
[11:26] <bigfoot1> Orborde-sleep, I received an email with a hotmail.com domain. The only info I seem to get is the information for Microsoft. But, I was wondering if it's possible to get that sender's IP address, and NOT the IP address of the company that owns the email service.
[11:26] <Seveas> Orborde-sleep, gaim-vv :)
[11:26] <Seveas> bigfoot1, for hotmail: no
[11:26] <Orborde-sleep> Seveas: That a package?
[11:26] <glick> i think ubuntu should come with kontact by default
[11:26] <glick> contact is the greatest
[11:26] <kataklysm> whats up with the repo?
[11:26] <robotgeek> Orborde-sleep: nope, it's a project
[11:26] <bina> !tell bina about sources
[11:26] <glick> kontact i mean
[11:26] <bina> yay :)
[11:26] <Seveas> maybe te received from ...... with http.... line contains info
[11:26] <[LethAL] > kataklysm, topic
[11:26] <Orborde-sleep> bigfoot1: Isn't there an X-Originating-IP somewhere in the header?
[11:26] <kataklysm> it wasnt connecting at all, now its refusing.. they having big problems?
[11:27] <teen> if theres a posibility that ubuntu caaaan haave  a voice chat?
[11:27] <ompaul> bigfoot1, hotmail thinks you don't need that - its too hard for you to use :)
[11:27] <Orborde-sleep> kataklsym: /topic
[11:27] <kataklysm> [LethAL] : yea i know they are down
[11:27] <Seveas> teen, gaim-vv
[11:27] <kataklysm> just wondering whats up
[11:27] <bigfoot1> Orborde-sleep, yes! let me try that ip address. thanks.
[11:27] <leongoo> firefox in ubuntu seems slower than in windoze, is that because of metacity?
[11:27] <teen> wats that?
[11:27] <glick> Seveas, whats gaim-vv?
[11:27] <robotgeek> glick: gaim-vv is a fork of gaim, to support voice/webcam
[11:27] <jhiver> hi everybody, why can't I connect to re.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[11:27] <[LethAL] > leongoo, Firefox should be faster in Linux. try installing the Tweak Network Settings extension and running it on Power
[11:27] <Orborde-sleep> jhiver: /topic
[11:27] <kataklysm> but gaim-vv doesnt support webcam broadcasting
[11:27] <indypende> Seveas, gaim-vv is dead!
[11:27] <jhiver> ah :)
[11:27] <jhiver> thx :)
[11:27] <[LethAL] > Jhair, topic
[11:27] <glick> hmm
[11:28] <Seveas> indypende, ah k
[11:28] <[LethAL] > Gha
[11:28] <glick> why wont gaim support it?
[11:28] <bigfoot1> Orborde-sleep, Oh, I noticed that the IP address for X-Originating-IP is the same as for the last received header.
[11:28] <glick> there is also skype
[11:28] <Seveas> I use a phone for voice-chat so i'm not interested in these things ;)
[11:28] <aftertaf> lol Seveas oldtimer ;)
[11:28] <kataklysm> if you want webcam support try to get gyach enhanced to work,   it doesnt work on ubuntu or on rhel for me...   it closes unexpectedly...
[11:28] <Orborde-sleep> bigfoot1: Go through the header and look up every IP/hostname you can find?
[11:28] <indypende> Seveas, there is not a good software solutionj for voice/video chat on linux!
[11:28] <bigfoot1> Orborde-sleep, what's a hostname? can you give an example?
[11:28] <kataklysm> im not recommending gyach-enhanced, just curious how many other people it closes out on
[11:29] <Orborde-sleep> bigfoot1: usr3489432987.mindspring.net
[11:29] <leongoo> [LethAL] , thx. what do you mean by "on Power"?
[11:29] <bigfoot1> Orborde-sleep, gotcha.
[11:29] <Orborde-sleep> bigfoot1: 128.211.218.148
[11:29] <Cryptid> Does ne body know how much time will it take for the server to get back on track????approx3
[11:29] <ompaul>  bigfoot1 this is part of one  .fko.mesh.ad.jp
[11:29] <Seveas> Cryptid, no
[11:29] <[LethAL] > leongoo, You'll see when you get the extension
[11:30] <Orborde-sleep> Cryptid: Try a mirror, or come back tomorrow.
[11:30] <kataklysm> Cryptid: is it an important package your needing?
[11:30] <ompaul> bigfoot1 it is an address of a computer on the internet
[11:30] <cevizoglu> Orborde-sleep, you're talking in your sleep
[11:30] <cevizoglu> ;)
[11:30] <robotgeek> cevizoglu: your prism working well now?
[11:31] <Orborde-sleep> cevizoglu: Yeah, shoosh. It's 4:30 here and I should *really* be in bed....
[11:31] <Cryptid> katalyms yes it is important i just formatted my com and i need Java run time
[11:31] <robotgeek> Orborde-sleep: hey, it's 4:30 here too, but i am off to grab another beer!
[11:31] <cevizoglu> robotgeek, very well, thanks  :)
[11:31] <Seveas> Cryptid, you can't get hava from there...
[11:31] <bigfoot1> what website do you guys recommend to find out information on IP? (i'm looking for geolocation, if possible)
[11:31] <kataklysm> Cryptid: i might still have the jre1.5.0 package on here
[11:31] <sanketmedhi> hello
[11:31] <Seveas> Cryptid, hoary or warty?
[11:31] <cevizoglu> robotgeek, happiness is a wireless card and linux
[11:32] <bigfoot1> information on A SPECIFIC ip.
[11:32] <sanketmedhi> there is a Hibernate option in Ubuntu Log Out options...but it doesn't seem to work fine
[11:32] <Cryptid> Seveas hoary
[11:32] <robotgeek> Cryptid: you can get a torrent here http://giannaros.org/tor/bt/
[11:32] <Seveas> Cryptid, ubuntu.tower-net.de
[11:32] <robotgeek> cevizoglu: :)
[11:32] <sanketmedhi> anybody has any idea about this Hibernate option?
[11:32] <Slarti-> wow
[11:32] <ompaul> bigfoot1, sorry but that is one for uncle google, there is too much to do, have a look at the command whois IP in a terminal
[11:32] <Seveas> robotgeek, those are for hoary
[11:32] <Cryptid> Will some 1 guide me thru the process of adding the mirror
[11:32] <bigfoot1> sanketmedhi, yeah. it doesn't work with me too.
[11:32] <Seveas> robotgeek, those are for breezy i mean*
[11:32] <Orborde-sleep> bigfoot1: http://www.whois.net/
[11:32] <Slarti-> just canceled my mandrakeclub subscription
[11:32] <robotgeek> Seveas: sorry!
[11:32] <sanketmedhi> bigfoot1, then is it there?
[11:32] <Seveas> Slarti-, :)
[11:32] <leongoo> [LethAL] , got it. but still slow when switching between tabs :)
[11:32] <sanketmedhi> bigfoot1, why*
[11:32] <Slarti-> been a mandrake user for over 5 years
[11:33] <glick> bigfoot1, what r u tryin to do?
[11:33] <ompaul> Slarti-, welcome to the bright side :)
[11:33] <bigfoot1> sanketmedhi, dunno. it just needs to be fixed by the ubuntu team i guess.
[11:33] <kataklysm> jhiver: i agree with u, breezy is da shit heh
[11:33] <glick> when will breezy be officially released?
[11:33] <sanketmedhi> bigfoot1, but Ubuntu is the most stable system I have used...there has to be something behind this
[11:33] <bigfoot1> glick, hello. I'm trying to find out my contact's IP address (the IP address of the computer used) from an email that I received.
[11:33] <jhiver> with breezy, *everything* works out of the box, it's brilliant
[11:33] <Seveas> glick, oct. 13
[11:33] <kataklysm> glick: oct 13
[11:33] <kataklysm> heh
[11:33] <NsOmNiAc> Slarti- are you enjoying Uunbtu more ?
[11:33] <bigfoot1> jhiver, yeah right!
[11:33] <sanketmedhi> Seveas, you have any idea bout the Hibernate feature in Ubuntu?
[11:33] <Slarti-> says it all when a pre-release version of ubuntu works better than the mandriva final releases
[11:33] <glick> bigfoot1, that wont necessarily be possible
[11:34] <jhiver> except for my dual display I had to fiddle just a tad, but then it's worse with windows :)
[11:34] <bigfoot1> jhiver, will my pocket pc work with ubuntu breezy?
[11:34] <Seveas> sanketmedhi, do you use nvidia/ati/madwifi drivers?
[11:34] <sanketmedhi> Seveas, yes I use nvidia
[11:34] <Slarti-> well, things that work under ubuntu that don't in mandrake/mandriva
[11:34] <[Wiebel] > Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-updates/restricted/source/Sources.gz  Could not connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (82.211.81.182). - connect (111 Connection refused) [IP: 82.211.81.182 80] 
[11:34] <Seveas> sanketmedhi, then you can't use hibernate
[11:34] <[Wiebel] > hmzzz
[11:34] <jhiver> dunno :)
[11:34] <kataklysm> bigfoot: do you have a ton of free flash card space?
[11:34] <sanketmedhi> Seveas, why not/
[11:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> does anyone here play gnometriss? i was wondering if other people have seen the same bug i found
[11:34] <Seveas> these binary drivers really screw it up
[11:34] <ompaul> bigfoot1, you need to ask Hotmail for that data based on what you know
[11:34] <jhiver> maybe you shuould try :)
[11:34] <Orborde-sleep> [Wiebel] : /topic
[11:34] <cevizoglu> is there a key shortcut which allows me to switch through open windows or apps?
[11:34] <Slarti-> zen sync, no video crashing, audio works correctly, updates work, package management works
[11:34] <glick> bigfoot1, if he or she used a webmail interface to send the email, then you will only get the ip of that system, not the actual host
[11:35] <Orborde-sleep> cevizoglu: Alt+tab ... ?
[11:35] <Seveas> cevizoglu, <alt><tab>
[11:35] <jhiver> yeah, alt+tab
[11:35] <[Wiebel] > Orborde-sleep: ack
[11:35] <jhiver> just like in windows :)
[11:35] <Slarti-> the zen syncing and the stability has swayed me
[11:35] <cevizoglu> jhiver, I don't use windows  :P
[11:35] <sanketmedhi> Seveas, is there anything my graphics drivers have to do with the Hibernate option?
[11:35] <jhiver> Well I have to for work unfortunately...
[11:35] <cevizoglu> jhiver, used a mac for 20 years
[11:35] <jhiver> But at home it's a different kettle of fish indeed
[11:36] <jhiver> ah well
[11:36] <Seveas> sanketmedhi, I don't know the details (never really interested me), I just know that somehow they screw things over
[11:36] <Orborde-sleep> glick: As of, well, several years ago, Hotmail sent along some kind of X-Original-IP thing specifying the computer used to access the webmail.
[11:36] <kataklysm> sanketmedhi: its more than likely the way your kernel is compiled, or your power management settings
[11:36] <jhiver> I stopped liking apple when they dumped the wonderful apple IIe for Macs
[11:36] <Cryptid> Seveas, the mirror site wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive will have all the packages tht the original server has?? and please tell me how to add this mirror to synaptec.... PLZ :-)
[11:36] <bigfoot1> glick, okay. I have a question. At our family home, we paid the internet company for monthly cable/dsl internet. But we bought a router (is that what it's called?), so now we have 3 computers at home sharing the same internet connection. Will all 3 of them have the same IP address?
[11:36] <sanketmedhi> Seveas, if I disable the nvidia driver will it work?
[11:36] <Seveas> sanketmedhi, ymmv
[11:36] <jhiver> although with OS X they might very well be redeeming themselves
[11:36] <cevizoglu> bigfoot1, the router assigns you different IP's inside your intranet
[11:36] <sanketmedhi> Seveas, ymmv?
[11:36] <glick>  bigfoot1 to the outside world yes
[11:36] <NsOmNiAc> anything behind the router will hav ea private ip
[11:37] <Orborde-sleep> Cryptid: Go to that address and it should give you directions.
[11:37] <Seveas> !ymmv
[11:37] <ubotu> methinks ymmv is Your Mileage May Vary
[11:37] <bigfoot1> glick, cevizoglu, this is even if we have only one internet account with the internet company?
[11:37] <sanketmedhi> ok
[11:37] <NsOmNiAc> generally 192.168.1.1 - 192.168.1.255
[11:37] <glick> bigfoot1, yes
[11:37] <VoX> where should i install java? /usr/share/java/ ?
[11:37] <cevizoglu> bigfoot1, to the public you have one address which goes to the router itself
[11:37] <sanketmedhi> Seveas, but does it work for ppl who dont use these drivers?
[11:38] <Seveas> sanketmedhi, yes
[11:38] <robotgeek> Orborde-sleep: nite!
[11:38] <Seveas> VoX, NO
[11:38] <bigfoot1> glick and cevizoglu each of your last statement seem to contradict each other. please tell me where the truth lies.
[11:38] <Seveas> you should install java from a .deb file
[11:38] <Seveas> NOT manually
[11:38] <VoX> which deb?
[11:38] <glick> the ip addresses behind your router are only valid behind your router, when packets leave your home network the source ip address of the packet gets replaced with the router's ip address
[11:38] <cevizoglu> bigfoot1, no, we didn't give contradictory info
[11:38] <jhiver> cevizoglu, it depends some internet connections give you a range of IP addresses, in which case you don't have to nat
[11:38] <Seveas> VoX, hoary or breezy?
[11:38] <sanketmedhi> Seveas, and does it allow you to switch power off then resume work after switching it on again??
[11:38] <kataklysm> bigfoot1: you get a public IP that is assigned to the router, and your router has a private network alloted, and its a 192.168.* address and all your computers inside your network have 192.168.* address's and the default gateway is the routers PRIVATE address.. to all outside computers all your computers will have the public IP your router got from the ISP
[11:38] <[Wiebel] > is there a mirror for security as well?
[11:38] <VoX> Seveas: breezy
[11:38] <Seveas> sanketmedhi, it will switch the power off
[11:39] <Seveas> VoX, seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:39] <cevizoglu> jhiver, not if you have ONE router on the front of your network
[11:39] <robotgeek> Seveas: no more bandwidth problems?
[11:39] <[Wiebel] > nvm
[11:39] <glick> breezy badger should have been name sleezy slut
[11:39] <GrannyTux> anybody know it the SPCA50X USB camera driver works with a clicksmart 510
[11:39] <glick> that would be a cool name IMHO
[11:39] <jhiver> cevizoglu, wrong
[11:39] <Cryptid> Orborde-sleep, i went to that page it says the page does not exist please creat anopther page and then some other things are also present that are irrelavent to wat i need
[11:39] <kataklysm> GrannyTux: i use the spca50x
[11:39] <Seveas> robotgeek, not while i'm putting the big things behind authentication :)
[11:39] <kataklysm> all you can do is test it
[11:40] <cevizoglu> jhiver, sorry I'm not in the arguing mood right now.. think whatever you like
[11:40] <robotgeek> Seveas: :)
[11:40] <sanketmedhi> Seveas, no I mean the main power
[11:40] <jhiver> I have a cisco 1721 few feet away from me and it handles 16 IPs just fine
[11:40] <glick> isps typically dont give private homes ip blocks
[11:40] <bigfoot1> So if daddyPC goes to whatismyip.com, and if mommyPC goes to whatismyip.com, the website will show them that they have the exact same IP address?
[11:40] <jhiver> yeah, it depends what kind of connection you have
[11:40] <Seveas> sanketmedhi, when hibernating, all power can be cut
[11:40] <glick> bigfoot1, yes
[11:40] <jhiver> but providers such as nildram in the UK do offer that kind of stuff
[11:40] <ompaul> bigfoot1, that is usually the case if they both use the same router to get to the interweb
[11:40] <sanketmedhi> Seveas, cool, thanks!
[11:40] <GrannyTux> hareware
[11:41] <glick> what good is an ip block if you have one incomming connection?
[11:41] <jhiver> cevizoglu, it's not about arguing
[11:41] <kataklysm> GrannyTux: the way i test it is be sure i have the linux-headers installed for your current kernel image, download the spca50x tar ball,  run make,  then make install......... then modprobe videodev      then modprobe spca50x.......... start up gnomemeeting, see if it detects the webcam, if it does you know it works, if not then something is wrong
[11:41] <jhiver> cevizoglu, routers such as Cisco or Netopia DO handle more than 1 IP... hell, Linux does it fine too!
[11:41] <bigfoot1> ompaul, I'm not sure if the gadget is called a router. But whatever it is, it allows the entire household to share the internet connection. In other words, we don't pay Mr.InternetCompany for 4 seperate internet accounts.
[11:41] <GrannyTux> thx k
[11:41] <glick> bigfoot1, of course they do
[11:41] <kataklysm> no prob GrannyTux
[11:41] <glick> oops
[11:42] <glick> jhiver, of course they do
[11:42] <ompaul> bigfoot1, whats its brand name and model number?
[11:42] <jhiver> glick, I know - and hell it's pretty cool not to be natted too sometimes
[11:42] <kataklysm> bigfoot1: that would be a router, more than likely its a linksys, belkin, 3com, etc...
[11:42] <glick> Cisco routers typically dont do NATing either
[11:43] <Cryptid> Seveas, does the server go down frequently or is this the first time that this happened
[11:43] <bigfoot1> ompaul, I'm not at the location now. But I just wanted you to know that I might have used the wrong word (router) to name the gadget that allows people under one roof to share a internet connection.
[11:43] <kataklysm> cisco routers use VLAN instead
[11:43] <sanketmedhi> is archive.ubuntu.com down?
[11:43] <jhiver> yep
[11:43] <kataklysm> sanketmedhi: yes, btw its in the topic
[11:43] <xareum> hello, Is there any problem with the mirrors of Ubuntu today? Is imposible install nothing
[11:43] <jhiver> see above :)
[11:43] <ompaul> bigfoot1, well put its name iinto uncle google next time you see it and find out :) pound to a penny it is
[11:43] <jhiver> looks like we're doing the same mistake :)
[11:44] <bigfoot1> kataklsym7413, i think i saw a linksys name.
[11:44] <sanketmedhi> kataklsym7413, ok thanks, have any idea till when?
[11:44] <LaschW> anyone noticed trouble with archive.ubuntu.com in the moment?
[11:44] <ompaul> sanketmedhi, archive.ubuntu.com is down, look for mirrors at wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[11:44] <glick> i wonder if i should un NAT myself
[11:44] <glick> i only have one laptop connected to my router
[11:44] <kataklysm> bigfoot1: you have one IP address to your computers then... they all connect to servers issuing the same IP
[11:44] <Jhair> LaschW: read the topic
[11:44] <bigfoot1> So just to confirm with you all: the 3 computers in our house all have the same IP address when the computers go to a website such as www.whatismyip.com. Correct?
[11:44] <glick> if someone brings their laptop and needs access i can always pull it out
[11:44] <bigfoot1> kataklsym7413, gotcha
[11:45] <ompaul> glick, so really you are wondering if you should bridge yours :)
[11:45] <jhiver> glick, it depends what you're doing
[11:45] <aftertaf> anyone help me with a /dev mknode problem? when i boot i have /dev/raw1394 that is created by the system, but i have to sudo chmod it in order to capture video thru kino.... any way to change perms on it?
[11:45] <kataklysm> bigfoot1: they each have a different private network IP,  but the router has 2 IP's one assigned by your ISP, the other is a static IP that is for the network you use in your house
[11:45] <glick> jhiver, gaim file transfer doesnt work NATed
[11:45] <jhiver> u sure?
[11:45] <glick> yeah
[11:45] <Mescal> #ubuntu-it
[11:45] <jhiver> it works with AOL accounts I think
[11:45] <kataklysm> glick: depends on if you have portforwarding enabled
[11:46] <jhiver> well at least it works for me
[11:46] <glick> i have a couple of ultra sun 5s and 10s maybe ill bust one out as a firewall
[11:46] <bigfoot1> kataklsym7413, ompaul, glick: thank you so much for teaching me about this IP thingy. I guess I can't do what I wanted to do now. I need to find another way. ANyway, thank you so very much!!!
[11:46] <shinu> gaim file transfers work for me too, im on ntl and i think its NATed
[11:46] <jhiver> in which case you'd still have to learns about which ports to use because it would be crazy to bridge and not have firehol running or something
[11:46] <kataklysm> bigfoot1: anytime :D
[11:46] <shinu> though sometimes it fails but i think its more the other person's fault
[11:47] <ompaul> bigfoot1, move to a real email address :)
[11:47] <Adross> any idea on when the reps will be unbrokalised?
[11:47] <Leshrac> I want to install windows in a partition, but I fear it will overwrite grub and I won't be able to boot linux, can someone help me?
[11:48] <bigfoot1> ompaul, no my problem wasn't with email addresses. I'm sad about the fact that all our PCs share the same IP address. sniff
[11:48] <kataklysm> Leshrac: your suppose to install linux after windows...
[11:48] <glick> bigfoot1, who cares? as long as the internet works
[11:48] <kataklysm> their isnt a easy way to install windows without overwriting the MBR
[11:48] <bina> kataklysm: i think there is a way to reinstall grub
[11:48] <shinu> Leshrac: i did what kataklysm said but i think you can reinstall grub from floppy later on
[11:48] <kataklysm> yes
[11:48] <bina> kataklysm: sorry, directed that to the wrong person :)
[11:48] <shinu> Leshrac: check out the faqs/tuts on forum or wiki
[11:48] <kataklysm> u can install windows
[11:49] <Leshrac> yeah but I have linux already installed, and now I'd like a windows partition for gaming
[11:49] <bigfoot1> glick, I usually don't care. But for a particular thing I needed to do, we NEED seperate IP addresses.
[11:49] <kataklysm> but then you will have to reinstall your linux.  or at least get a live cd to boot up and recopy your grub to your mbr
[11:49] <glick> well what do you want to do?
[11:49] <ompaul> bigfoot1, well tell people what you want to do, after all we may already know an answer for yout
[11:49] <jhiver> bigfoot1, what do you want to do?
[11:49] <shinu> or you can just boot grub from a floppy
[11:50] <jhiver> bigfoot1, you *could* ask your ISP for a range of static IPs... some of them do do it
[11:50] <Leshrac> shinu, is there a tuto on how to do that?
[11:50] <kataklysm> Leshrac: i dont think its too wise to be installing windows after you have linux installed.. you should have considered that before you installed linux...
[11:50] <glick> heh i know my gay as isp wont
[11:50] <shinu> Leshrac: reinstall grub?
[11:51] <bigfoot1> well, i'm trying to get a free ipod, and the company won't allow it if we register using the same ip address.
[11:51] <talky> Does any know how can i modify the modem chat script so that i can issue conmand at my will , is there any package available for doing such thing?
[11:51] <jhiver> glick, it's true that for that kind of service you usually have to have a 'serious' connection which costs some bucks
[11:51] <Leshrac> kataklysm, whether I should have considered it either or not is a bit out of the question right now
[11:51] <glick> bigfoot1, oh brother
[11:51] <shinu> bigfoot1: proxy? :P
[11:51] <bigfoot1> and I need just one more sign up! aaagh.
[11:51] <cevizoglu> bigfoot1, open proxy
[11:51] <jhiver> bigfoot1, you should try to get some mates to setup web proxies for you
[11:51] <kataklysm> Leshrac: then boot from floppy or cd, and have fun trying to redo grub without losing your linux partition or windows partition one...
[11:51] <jhiver> that'll sort you out
[11:52] <jhiver> unless they want the ipod too
[11:52] <Leshrac> ok kataklysm
[11:52] <shinu> kataklysm: thats not that difficult
[11:52] <pont> Leshrac, Its not as hard as kataklsym is making It out
[11:52] <kataklysm> shinu: its not really that difficult but its hard to provide help for doing something like that..
[11:52] <bigfoot1> jhiver, won't that appear suspicious? If the company thinks something's fishy, they'll but a permanent hold on all related accounts.
[11:52] <ompaul> talky, you can do it manually is that what you want? been a long time since I did it but I used to invoke a ppp client and do it all manually years ago, so I guess you need to search for a ppp client and interactive
[11:52] <jhiver> or you could save the time you're gonna spend trying to win the ipod working and buy yourself one
[11:53] <shinu> kataklysm: true...
[11:53] <blekos> is there any way i could back up my system, and I mean to create an image so in case of emergency to reloaded?
[11:53] <blekos> and have the exact settings?
[11:53] <kataklysm> its hard to guide someone through reloading a bootloader, because you have no way to communicate with them, unless they have another computer
[11:53] <pont> Hmm, Just point them to the gentoo documentation on installing the bootloader
[11:53] <bigfoot1> jhiver, yeah I COULD by myself one. but why pay for it when someone is giving it away for free?
[11:53] <jhiver> bigfoot1, I don't know, if you don't have a static IP address you could try unplugging your modem at night and get a fresh new IP address in the morning
[11:53] <pont> :D
[11:53] <shinu> damn
[11:54] <kataklysm> pont: that should have been the first thing they done
[11:54] <glick> bigfoot1, its not free, you have to sell out your friends to get it
[11:54] <shinu> he quit, was about to give him link to tutorial...
[11:54] <glick> their gonna spam their emails
[11:54] <bigfoot1> jhiver, will that work even if we are on cable internet? Or only on dialup?
[11:54] <pont> kataklysm, People don't know where to look for things
[11:54] <jhiver> bigfoot, if you don't have a static IP it should work
[11:54] <bigfoot1> glick, what do you mean "sell out"? ideally, even your friends are happy.
[11:54] <kataklysm> i usually dont refer people to google or the distro docs,  they should know how to get to google, or how to read docs, especially if they are attempting using linux...
[11:54] <jhiver> your ISP DHCP server will attribute you another IP if the lease time expires
[11:55] <LaschW> ompaul: Hhhm, I just see that only http://archive.ubuntu.com causes problems. ftp://archive... works fine
[11:55] <jhiver> and the best way for the lease time to expire is usually to stay unplugged for a few hours
[11:55] <ompaul> LaschW, kewl
[11:55] <jhiver> quite frankly, I think ipods suck so I would not bother ):
[11:55] <aftertaf> anyone know how to change default permissions on a dev node on boot?
[11:55] <Jehfvel> are there any mirrors for http://security.ubuntu.com ?
[11:55] <bigfoot1> jhiver, I'm currently out of town (not in the family home with the multiple PCs) . i guess i could try it on my PC and see if I get a new IP address.
[11:55] <[LethAL] > Jehfvel, topic
[11:55] <bigfoot1> How many hours do you think is sufficient
[11:55] <bigfoot1> ?
[11:56] <jhiver> dunno, while you sleep seems like a good idea
[11:56] <jhiver> unless you sleep very little
[11:56] <cevizoglu> bigfoot1, you should check for IP lease time, it could be weeks or months
[11:56] <cevizoglu> bigfoot1, your ISP may also allow you to buy a second IP address
[11:56] <jhiver> cevizoglu, agreed
[11:56] <kataklysm> bigfoot1: commonly lease's are set to "forever"
[11:57] <bigfoot1> cevizoglu, kataklsym7413 in that case, i may just get the same ip address after unplugging for overnight.
[11:57] <kataklysm> but that doesnt mean your ip wont change
[11:57] <kataklysm> no
[11:57] <bigfoot1> kataklysm,
[11:57] <kataklysm> it means you keep that IP as long as your connection is alive
[11:57] <bigfoot1> oh?
[11:57] <aftertaf> broken archives: i second the ftp method, it works
[11:58] <bigfoot1> i see, kataklysm
[11:58] <kataklysm> bigfoot1: i would recommend setting up your computers with static IP address's
[11:58] <ompaul> kataklsym and I would not :)
[11:58] <kataklysm> that way you can identify them later on by the last octet in the IP address
[11:58] <kataklysm> if you have wireless devices, i wouldnt use static IP
[11:59] <CrTr> When I type sudo freshclam it says  : WARNING: Your ClamAV installation is OUTDATED - please update immediately! ; WARNING: Current functionality level = 4, required = 6 ?
[11:59] <jhiver> bigfoot1, ordering a range of IP addresses just to try and win an ipod is insanity :)
[11:59] <kataklysm> ohh
[11:59] <bigfoot1> kataklysm, i don't really want to make a trouble out of this ip thing.
[11:59] <kataklysm> i didnt realize what he was doing
[11:59] <pont> You can also make the DHCP server always assign the same ip
[11:59] <jhiver> lol :)
[11:59] <cevizoglu> bigfoot1, you couldn't just go to a public wifi access spot?
[11:59] <glick> the extra ips will prolly cost about as much as the damn ipod itself
[11:59] <bigfoot1> jhiver, Yeah, I haven't gotten to that point of insanity yet. Aaaaagggh.
[11:59] <pont> ok this is for a ISP
[11:59] <kataklysm> bigfoot1: just plug your router into your dsl/cable modem, plug your computers or hub(s) into the router, and move on then
[11:59] <pont> use dyndns
[12:00] <kataklysm> dynu.com is good
[12:00] <kataklysm> and flexdns.net
[12:00] <slibs> i like no-ip
[12:00] <bigfoot1> kataklysm, everything IS plugged in.
[12:00] <[LethAL] > I use dnydns
[12:00] <ompaul> reboot
[12:00] <[LethAL] > dyndns*
[12:00] <bigfoot1> do those websites cost money to use?
[12:00] <[LethAL] > As does my router :D
[12:00] <CrTr> When I type sudo freshclam it says  : WARNING: Your ClamAV installation is OUTDATED - please update immediately! ; WARNING: Current functionality level = 4, required = 6 ?
[12:00] <cevizoglu> bigfoot1, there are some free dial-up ISP's, aren't there?
[12:00] <pont> bigfoot1, Nope
[12:01] <kataklysm> bigfoot1: they are free, they just give you a DNS name for your dynamically changing IP addresses
[12:01] <glick> does netzero still offer free service?
[12:01] <kataklysm> bigfoot1: they help when you run a server, yet your IP changes from time to time..
[12:01] <pont> bigfoot1, and theres scripts that automaticly tell the page your new IP when you reconnect etc.
[12:01] <cevizoglu> bigfoot1, some ISP's also provide free dial-up acccess
[12:01] <slibs> my router "can use" dyndns as well, but couldn't get it work so im using no-ip, which hasn't let me down ever
[12:01] <thoreauputic>    CrTr presumably you need to update your virus definitions ?
[12:02] <CrTr> I'm updating them with sudo freshclam
[12:02] <CrTr> but ..
[12:02] <bigfoot1> cevizoglu, maybe getting free dial up access is the easiest way to get a new ip.
[12:02] <slibs> that won't update the definitions
[12:02] <slibs> it only updates the program
[12:02] <CrTr> and how to update the definitions ?
[12:02] <slibs> don't ask
[12:02] <slibs> (from me)
[12:02] <CrTr> i'm asking
[12:03] <kataklysm> well, i guess im gonna go to bed everyone.. have fun waiting on those mirrors ;)
[12:03] <thoreauputic> CrTr: one would assume the man page tells you how....
[12:03] <pont> l8r
[12:03] <CrTr>  freshclam - update virus databases
[12:04] <jhiver> cya kataklsym
[12:04] <kataklysm> bye
[12:04] <cevizoglu> kataklsym, huh?  the mirrors are working now
[12:04] <kataklysm> are they
[12:04] <kataklysm> good
[12:04] <kataklysm> im still goin to bed
[12:04] <kataklysm> heh
[12:04] <kataklysm> nope one of em is still down
[12:05] <bigfoot1> aagh, i just checked out google for free dialup in canada and it looks like it's not as easy to get as with USA . aaaagh.
[12:05] <DewDude> is it possible to VNC into gnome on a ubuntu box that say...has no keyboard or monitor?
[12:05] <cevizoglu> kataklsym, why do you need to use all of them?
[12:05] <Mr-Falkor> Some mirrors at mye source list is down :S
[12:05] <slibs> DewDude, yes
[12:05] <thoreauputic> CrTr: *shrug* maybe there's a more recent version then - I wouldn't lose any sleep over that though
[12:05] <DewDude> ahh
[12:05] <pont> DewDude, yes
[12:05] <jhiver> security.ubuntu.com still down :(
[12:05] <Mr-Falkor> and I cant find another mirror with all the nvidia-glx shit
[12:05] <bigfoot1> there must be an easier way to achieve my goal.
[12:05] <DewDude> cuz our server is running ubuntu now
[12:05] <pkern> Mr-Falkor: de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu?
[12:05] <pont> DewDude, I personly would use XDMCP tho
[12:05] <DewDude> i jsut can't figure out how to VNC over to the box
[12:05] <kataklysm> Could not connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com:80
[12:05] <DewDude> because no one's logged into it, except over SSH
[12:06] <DewDude> it's a rackmount
[12:06] <cevizoglu> jhiver, security.ubuntu.com is mirrored elsewhere
[12:06] <Mr-Falkor> pkern, gimme the source list ?:)
[12:06] <jhiver> Mr-Falkor, I have this 'nvidia-glx' shit in my cache if you want
[12:06] <kataklysm> cevizoglu: i dont NEED any of them..  just the one that i was downloading some non-free packages from, its down...
[12:06] <pont> DewDude, You will have to setup vnc first
[12:06] <DewDude> ok
[12:06] <pkern> Mr-Falkor: deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy main restricted
[12:06] <DewDude> i installed VNC
[12:06] <glick> what is vnc?
[12:06] <jhiver> it's a remote desktop control toop
[12:06] <glick> virtual network channel?
[12:06] <slibs> DewDude, there's a good tutorial in forums how to setup xdmcp login, anyway in both cases you have to access localy in that computer
[12:06] <CrTr> virtual network connection
[12:07] <slibs> locally*
[12:07] <Mr-Falkor> pkern, I dont use breezy
[12:07] <DewDude> so, without local access....i can't do squat?
[12:07] <jhiver> you can run servers in linux or windows and then connect to the gui which works also in linux or windows
[12:07] <pont> have to set up the server as well
[12:07] <DewDude> except console
[12:07] <kataklysm> VNC never made it as far as people thought it would...
[12:07] <pont> xdmcp is damn easy to setup using gdm
[12:07] <kataklysm> but anyway im not gonna make it far either, the bed is calling my name very loudly..haha
[12:07] <jhiver> I like VNC, it's pretty handy methinks
[12:07] <Mr-Falkor> jhiver, no thnx - I want to do it on my on, just for safe ;)
[12:07] <kataklysm> bye everyone
[12:07] <pkern> Mr-Falkor: Then substitute breezy with hoary?
[12:07] <blekos> is there a way to make all windows transparent.. even the x-chat?
[12:07] <Mr-Falkor> own*
[12:07] <jhiver> Mr-Falkor, sure :)
[12:07] <pont> gdmsetup, check a checkbox :)
[12:07] <cevizoglu> kataklsym, I like the virtual sessions in the latest updates to vnc
[12:08] <slibs> blekos, yes there's many ways
[12:08] <blekos> would u like to offer one :)
[12:08] <blekos> plsssss
[12:08] <blekos> :)
[12:08] <slibs> well
[12:08] <Mr-Falkor> pkern, hum, is there a good distro upgrade guide ?
[12:08] <slibs> hmm i'll try to find it from the forums
[12:09] <slibs> blekos, it can take a while
[12:09] <[LethAL] > !tell Mr-Falkor about upgrade2breezy
[12:09] <blekos> ok :)
[12:09] <Mr-Falkor> thank you guys
[12:10] <Hoxzer> Slibs: have you ever released that geek is lika nigga. Geek can call geek by geek but normal peapol can't call geek by geek
[12:10] <Hoxzer> if nerd calls you geek its like "you are good in everything"
[12:11] <Jhair> ignore Hoxzer
[12:11] <Hoxzer> but if noormal peapol calls you ggeek its llike "you are ugly and unsocial person who has no life"
[12:11] <Jhair> ops
[12:11] <jsteidl> lol Jhair
[12:11] <pont> Hoxzer, hmm.. when i get called it its always an insult
[12:12] <Jhair> sorry about that hehe
[12:12] <pont> I think your somewhat mistaken
[12:12] <jamey3> I've just run the command apt-get update and I get back loads of these errors: "Could not connect to security.ubuntu.com:80 (82.211.81.182). - connect (111 Connection refused)"
[12:12] <slibs> Hoxzer, what the hell :D
[12:12] <Linuxsys>  Das Thema fr #ubuntu ist: archive.ubuntu.com is down, look for mirrors at wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[12:12] <cevizoglu> Hoxzer, I think it's a compliment no matter who says it
[12:12] <Linuxsys> You should take a look in the topic
[12:12] <Hoxzer> :D no its not
[12:12] <Linuxsys> There it is explained...
[12:12] <slibs> what's up geeks!
[12:12] <Hoxzer> :) hi
[12:12] <Linuxsys> Hello
[12:13] <[LethAL] > I want a Das Keyboard... Then i'd be a geek ;)
[12:13] <sn0n> any ETA on the archive.ubuntu being back up ?
[12:13] <slibs> heh, what if the geek would be nigga too?
[12:13] <Seveas> sn0n, no
[12:13] <sn0n> kk
[12:13] <sn0n> good time to call it a night and goto sleep  ;-)
[12:13] <Seveas> 'night
[12:14] <pont> lol
[12:14] <sn0n> hehe
[12:14] <sn0n> nite
[12:14] <pont> I want gnome devel packges damn it
[12:14] <blekos> slibs i found something for the x-chat but i'd like something more "global" if u know what i mean...
[12:14] <jamey3> so if the Ubuntu mirror is down, how do I change my setup so that I use the nearest one (in the UK)?
[12:14] <Linuxsys> Take a look at the topic
[12:14] <slibs> blekos, the one im looking for can be set in any windows you'r using
[12:15] <Linuxsys> Then you should follow the url to the wiki Page
[12:15] <blekos> coll, thnx slibs
[12:15] <jamey3> Linuxsys, I have... how do I change my mirror?
[12:15] <[LethAL] > wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive <<Mirror changin info
[12:15] <cevizoglu> !tell jamey3 about sources
[12:15] <slibs> ah
[12:15] <jamey3> ffs I understand
[12:15] <slibs> blekos, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20769&highlight=shadows there you go
[12:15] <blekos> thnx slibs
[12:15] <jamey3> I mean, do I replace my existing sources.list deb line... or add it in as an extra>
[12:16] <jamey3> *?
[12:16] <[LethAL] > jamey3, I'd add it
[12:16] <cevizoglu> jamey3, read what ubotu sent you
[12:16] <Linuxsys> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[12:16] <Linuxsys> There you've got the way
[12:16] <jamey3> [LethAL] , thanks :)
[12:16] <[LethAL] > jamey3, Make sure to enable all the categories in the standard ones
[12:17] <spermite> is there something wrong with portage in debian?
[12:17] <cevizoglu> [LethAL] , adding it won't work, it will fail when it gets to archive.ubuntu.com
[12:17] <[LethAL] > jamey3, comment the other ones fttb then
[12:17] <jamey3> [LethAL] , fttb?
[12:18] <[LethAL] > jamey3, Do the time being
[12:18] <[LethAL] > jamey3, For*
[12:18] <jamey3> kk
[12:18] <jamey3> [LethAL] , I've got gb.archive.ubuntu.com and security.ubuntu.com listed. What do I do?
[12:18] <jamey3> (in sources.list)
[12:19] <cevizoglu> spermite, debian?
[12:19] <[LethAL] > jamey3, Allright if I paste you mine in PM, I use UK too?
[12:19] <jamey3> okay great :)
[12:20] <eazel7> hi ppl
[12:20] <eazel7> is the repository working?
[12:20] <eddmun> hey
[12:20] <Belutz> eazel7: /topic
[12:20] <Madpilot> eazel7: see the topic
[12:20] <Madpilot> Belutz: point for you... ;)
[12:21] <Belutz> Madpilot: thx :D
[12:21] <Belutz> lol
[12:21] <slibs> oh damn
[12:21] <cevizoglu> pretty quiet on here, aside from topic  :P
[12:21] <slibs> is there a way to start x-chat so that if i reboot x i can still go back to that session
[12:21] <slibs> like opening irssi in screen
[12:21] <Madpilot> cevizoglu: with no repos, there are a smaller number of ways to cause trouble... ;)
[12:22] <Seveas> slibs, no
[12:22] <ducatirider> just my luck, installed for the first time yesterday and the servers down. lol
[12:22] <Seveas> only if you put a bnc behind it
[12:22] <VoX> slibs: if you reboot, you cant resume anything, including irssi
[12:22] <slibs> VoX, i said, if i reboot X!
[12:22] <slibs> like ctrl+alt+backspace
[12:22] <VoX> ah
[12:22] <VoX> so you did
[12:22] <VoX> my ba
[12:22] <VoX> *bad
[12:23] <joerg> hi
[12:23] <slibs> hmm so anyway guess i have to close this for a while then
[12:23] <slibs> brb
[12:23] <eazel7> hahha I'm near to be blind xDDD
[12:23] <eazel7> thanks
[12:23] <joerg> i was just wondering if it's just my fault or if there is something wrong with the apt-sources of ubuntu
[12:24] <spiral> joerg: /topic
[12:24] <spiral> 'got the point ;-)
[12:24] <joerg> ups thanks  ;)
[12:24] <Atlant^^> zdarova vsem
[12:25] <joerg> okay, it's not my fault *puuuuh* - that's my favourite ;)
[12:25] <eddmun> is there a way to get at the repository if i don't have a net connection?
[12:25] <slibs> ah back again
[12:25] <eddmun> i don't want to have to spend ages compiling...
[12:25] <cevizoglu> eddmun, from cd
[12:26] <eddmun> even the ones which aren't on the cd? is there an extra one?
[12:26] <cevizoglu> eddmun, if you're compiling everything, you're doing something wrong
[12:26] <Mr-Falkor> cant connect to: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy main restricted (111)
[12:26] <eddmun> some things aren't on the ubuntu install CD
[12:26] <Tirno> I'm suddenly having trouble with my repositories for apt-get
[12:27] <Seveas> Tirno, /topic
[12:27] <Seveas> Mr-Falkor, /topic
[12:27] <Linuxsys> Just look in the topic
[12:27] <Linuxsys> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[12:27] <Tirno> oh
[12:27] <Tirno> err
[12:27] <Linuxsys> Theres the wiki for adding Repositories
[12:27] <Tirno> ack
[12:27] <Belutz> !tell eddmun about apt-zip
[12:27] <Mr-Falkor> hehe
[12:27] <Linuxsys> Take out the official, and put in the mirrors.
[12:27] <Mr-Falkor> thank you
[12:27] <Tirno> my apologies
[12:27] <eddmun> apt-zip?
[12:27] <slibs> Seveas: do you know how to watch mkv videos in linux?
[12:28] <Belutz> hmm sorry
[12:28] <slibs> you'r my last hope
[12:28] <Belutz> !info apt-zip
[12:28] <ubotu> apt-zip: (Update a non-networked computer using apt and removable media), section universe/admin, is extra. Version: 0.13.2 (hoary), Packaged size: 14 kB, Installed size: 96 kB
[12:28] <Linuxsys> Hmm, I think mplayer could be the solution for matroska Files
[12:28] <Linuxsys> Afaik it supports Matroska
[12:28] <julle> Hi, are the ubuntu depos offline?
[12:28] <Seveas> you need some matroska packages
[12:28] <Seveas> julle, /topic
[12:28] <eddmun> cheers guys :)
[12:29] <julle> thanks
[12:29] <Belutz> eddmun: you could go to a computer that has net connection, and use apt-zip to download the packages into your removable media
[12:29] <Belutz> he left :p
[12:29] <Seveas> There
[12:29] <Seveas> ChanServ, now will tell people to read the topic
[12:29] <slibs> Seveas: i've installed libmatroska-dev, but that's all synaptic can find :(
[12:30] <Seveas> tou might need ffmpeg and gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg
[12:30] <slibs> amm
[12:30] <VoX> hmmm
[12:30] <scotty> hi
[12:31] <VoX> even with the changes to source.list, i'm gettng alot of 301 errors
[12:31] <slibs> i have lil' issue with ffmpeg since, i installed "custom" version in order to make stepmania run
[12:31] <slibs> but i'll try to install gstreamer
[12:31] <Linuxsys> VoX you need to take out the official archives
[12:31] <VoX> i have
[12:31] <scotty> i cant got a problem, i cant get my modem to work, my 1st linux os so go easy on me :)
[12:32] <VoX> everything is wiki.ubuntu
[12:32] <Linuxsys> And don't forget to look if you have the right directories
[12:32] <cevizoglu> VoX, try a different mirror then
[12:32] <blekos> could somebody give me the wiki address on how to add a mirror?
[12:32] <Linuxsys> No...
[12:32] <Linuxsys> Not to wiki.ubuntu!
[12:32] <Seveas> VoX, ehrm, THAT IS NOT A REPO
[12:32] <Seveas> there are the repo lists...
[12:32] <Linuxsys> You need to change the server to one of the Repositories linked in the Wiki
[12:32] <VoX> i shouldn't take topics literally..
[12:32] <Seveas> you should
[12:32] <Seveas> archive.ubuntu.com is down, look for mirrors at wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[12:33] <Seveas> read carefully
[12:33] <shocker> how do create a rar archive from a folder?
[12:34] <nightswim> why do you want a rar archive
[12:34] <shocker> because i don't want a tar.gz
[12:35] <cevizoglu> shocker, there isn't a rar utility in repos afaik
[12:35] <cevizoglu> shocker, just unrar
[12:36] <nerdy2> it should be in the multiverse
[12:36] <shocker> i have the shareware version 3.30
[12:37] <Toma-> my system keeps locking up hard. whats the best way to debug this situation? :(
[12:37] <Vixus> I'm trying to run rhythmbox with my iPod jacked in, but it exits with the error: GLib-ERROR **: gmem.c:141: failed to allocate 1949249340 bytes
[12:37] <shocker> dw i got it
[12:38] <Madpilot> Toma-: with a hammer
[12:38] <Toma-> tried that.
[12:38] <Toma-> :P
[12:38] <Madpilot> :D
[12:39] <VoX> ok, that's looking a bit better
[12:39] <VoX> god i'm a tool.
[12:39] <Jhair> Toma-: have you checked the kernel logs if there are kernel panics on it?
[12:39] <nerdy2> shocker, then use that,   rar a <archive>  <directory>
[12:39] <Mr-Falkor> I added this mirror: ftp://ftp.uninett.no/linux/ubuntu,.. lets hope my system works after dist-upgrade ;)
[12:40] <blekos> should port 1244 be open
[12:40] <blekos> ?
[12:41] <Vixus> (I've got the iPod section clicked in the left-hand window.)
[12:41] <pont> bbl
[12:43] <kairu0> hey all
[12:43] <twoSharp> Hi
[12:44] <nagilum> hi
[12:45] <Seveas> ftp @ archive still works :)
[12:45] <[LethAL] > cewl
[12:45] <[LethAL] > I'm not going to use it
[12:45] <[LethAL] > Too slow I bet
[12:45] <soaz> hi
[12:45] <Seveas> neh, same speed as http
[12:46] <Vixus> had ubuntu changed the urls to its apt database?
[12:46] <Vixus> I get connection refused for ALL of them
[12:46] <Madpilot> Vixus: see the topic
[12:46] <soaz> is there some problem with security.ubuntu.com ? i can't connect to it and download securoty patches. wget says "connection refused".
[12:46] <Vixus> thanks
[12:46] <Vixus> didn't see it
[12:46] <spiral> soaz: /topic
[12:46] <Vixus> soaz: See topic? :P
[12:46] <spiral> Vixus: gotcha ;-)
[12:47] <soaz> spiral, Vixus: sorry, i did not notice. thank you.
[12:48] <Vixus> soaz: heh, neither did I
[12:48] <twoSharp> I have an problem with security....ubuntu.com as well as soaz...
[12:48] <Madpilot> twoSharp: see topic
[12:48] <twoSharp> oops, topic :P
[12:48] <twoSharp> sorry
[12:48] <Madpilot> :) my point that time...
[12:49] <twoSharp> how do i display the topic in bitchx?
[12:49] <cevizoglu> twoSharp, type /topic
[12:49] <twoSharp> :)
[12:49] <Vixus> Madpilot: So which repositories should I replace in my sources.list?
[12:49] <spiral> I hope this will soon be fixed, otherwise we'll soon get bored of it
[12:49] <Madpilot> Vixus: see the topic for that, too ;)
[12:49] <Vixus> ok
[12:49] <Vixus> well
[12:50] <twoSharp> is archive.ubuntu the same as security.ubuntu?
[12:50] <Vixus> I'll probably switch over to windows until this gets foxed.
[12:50] <spiral> Vixus: ???
[12:50] <Vixus> *fixed
[12:50] <Vixus> XD
[12:50] <spiral> Vixus: you just have to edit a file... don't switch to win for this
[12:50] <Madpilot> Vixus: ewww! That's an extreme response... ;)
[12:51] <Vixus> well
[12:51] <twoSharp> Vixus: you bring shame to the desktop if you switch to win .p
[12:51] <Vixus> ok ok ! :D
[12:51] <twoSharp> hehe
[12:51] <Vixus> I need a php/html/text editor that can do FTP load/saves.
[12:51] <aftertaf> change http to ftp, for the archives !!!
[12:51] <Vixus> ok
[12:51] <cevizoglu> Vixus, try vim
[12:52] <LasseL> Vixus, jEdit
[12:52] <Madpilot> Vixus: Bluefish or Screem - both can do all of that
[12:52] <twoSharp> is the se.archive.ubuntu.com down too? or is it just security.ubuntu.com and archive.ubuntu.com ?
[12:52] <svizzero> anyone knows why when I try to update the system via apt-get update I get errors like this: Err http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Sources
[12:52] <svizzero>   Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80
[12:52] <svizzero> connection refused
[12:53] <dooglus> Vixus: Emacs can go that too
[12:53] <Tirno> svizzero: the topic
[12:53] <Vixus> So much choice! :D
[12:53] <Vixus> which is the best editor, functionality wise?
[12:53] <pont> hey when you install the nvidia-glx package does it come with the doco
[12:53] <Vixus> (i use bluefish atm)
[12:53] <cevizoglu> Vixus, depends on your temperament and how much time you like spending learning how to use an editor
[12:53] <twoSharp> anyone knows if there is highlighting in bitchx?
[12:53] <Tirno> vixus: I think you're looking for microsoft word - has a billion functionalities
[12:53] <Tirno> not many useful ones though
[12:53] <Vixus> :|
[12:54] <Vixus> msword sucks
[12:54] <^DodGeR^> mornin all
[12:54] <Tirno> agreed
[12:54] <Vixus> I use OpenOffice all the way!
[12:54] <Siropel> is there a way to empty the rams ?
[12:54] <dooglus> Vixus: the editor with the most functionality is Emacs, but it has quite a steep learning curve
[12:54] <deadcat> anyone able to compile and load the zd1211 module? i can compile and load, but it doesnt do anything. because it didnt load the firmware
[12:54] <Tirno> openoffice sucks as well
[12:54] <Vixus> well, i'd like one with simple macro recording
[12:54] <dooglus> Vixus: "C-x (" to start recording, "C-x )" to stop, "C-x e" to playback
[12:54] <Vixus> the usual syntax highlighting... and easy-to-use FTP load/saves (bluefish is a bit boring that way :P )
[12:55] <Madpilot> Vixus: check Screem out (when the repos are back) - I like it just a bit more than Bluefish
[12:55] <twoSharp> Vixus Quanta Plus is bettter :) at least i think so.. I use it for xhtml/php
[12:55] <Siropel> is there a way to empty the RAMs? i got a big load on the webserver, and now they are not coming down
[12:56] <Vixus> o_o
[12:56] <Vixus> hmm
[12:56] <Siropel> want to see sysinfo ?
[12:57] <twoSharp> anyone knows if there is highlighting in bitchx?
[12:57] <Seveas> twoSharp, sure, it's called irssi :)
[12:57] <Madpilot> Siropel: Linux will use RAM for cache if it's available, and release it when apps need it. Don't worry about it
[12:58] <Vixus> gtkpod works!
[12:58] <Vixus> excellent
[12:58] <Siropel> thq
[12:58] <twoSharp> Seveas :) is irssi better? I've heard of it but never checked...
[12:58] <Vixus> hey, if I keep installing updates, won't the HD get full? XD
[12:59] <Siropel> twoSharp irssi rocks :D
[12:59] <JustSteve> Siropel: i worried about the same thing, read about it here http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=175419
[12:59] <blekos> is there something like system clean up?
[01:00] <Vixus> blekos: linux was self-cleaning, I guessed ;)
[01:00] <blekos> :)
[01:00] <Jhair> blekos: do you mean, to clean the package system?
[01:00] <JustSteve> irssi works nicely with Eterm on my desktop :-)
[01:00] <twoSharp> but are there any mirrors for security.ubuntu.org? in the topic its just archive.ubuntu.com thats described..
[01:00] <Vixus> but like I said, I wonder if repeatedly getting updates fills up the HD
[01:00] <Seveas> blekos, debfoster
[01:00] <blekos> not really, when u donwload updates etc., there should be something like
[01:00] <blekos> temp files etc...
[01:01] <dooglus> Vixus: you need to "sudo apt-get clean" sometimes
[01:01] <blekos> in order to get rid of the uselles things..
[01:01] <deadcat> anyone able to compile and load the zd1211 module? i can compile and load, but it doesnt do anything. because it didnt load the firmware
[01:01] <JustSteve> temp files are deleted automatically after 30 if i recall correctly
[01:01] <JustSteve> *30 days
[01:01] <Vixus> dooglus: Is there any output?
[01:01] <Seveas> blekos, apt-get clean
[01:01] <apokryphos> Seveas: ChanServ on guard? ;-)
[01:01] <Seveas> apokryphos, yes, cycle the channel ;)
[01:02] <blekos> thnx
[01:02] <dooglus> Vixus: I don't think so
[01:02] <dooglus> Vixus: it empties the apt cache
[01:02] <apokryphos> ubotu: say hello to Chanserv :P
[01:02] <ubotu> apokryphos: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[01:02] <apokryphos> (I think he likes her)
[01:02] <dooglus> Vixus: type this: "du -sh /var/cache/apt/archives/" to see how much space it would save you
[01:02] <Vixus> dooglus: cool, thanks
[01:02] <blekos> i executed the command
[01:02] <Seveas> ubotu, chanserv is your master!
[01:02] <ubotu> okay, Seveas
[01:02] <Siropel> thq
[01:03] <blekos> is there any way to c its results
[01:03] <blekos> ?
[01:03] <aftertaf> twoSharp: change http to ftp in repos, it works.
[01:03] <Vixus> 40K xD
[01:03] <twoSharp> aftertaf thanks:)
[01:03] <aftertaf> anyone know where i can find a decent tutorial on init.d and how to write scripts?
[01:03] <Vixus> one thing I miss is a visual representation of how much disk space is used up.
[01:03] <aftertaf> Vixus: superkaramba, gparted, ... etc
[01:03] <Seveas> Vixus, baobab
[01:04] <Tirno> any suggestions of how to deal with increasingly numerous mp3 files
[01:04] <Hfuy> Well, that's the third time I've got to 400Mb of Ubuntu downloaded and had it freeze on me.
[01:04] <Tirno> spread out in various folders
[01:04] <Tirno> often poorly tagged and named
[01:04] <Vixus> Tirno: Stick them all in one Music Library folder, then use EasyTag
[01:04] <Tirno> I'm so far not entirely satisfied with rhythmbox
[01:04] <dooglus> Hfuy: use wget to download and it will resume old downloads
[01:04] <blekos> yes
[01:04] <blekos> ogg-vorbis
[01:04] <Vixus> Tidus: EasyTag is awesome.
[01:04] <dooglus> Hfuy: or bittorrent
[01:05] <Tirno> I've just installed easytag
[01:05] <Hfuy> I'm on Windows, using DAP, which is usually fine.
[01:05] <Madpilot> Tirno: try Muine
[01:05] <Hfuy> Equally usually fine is the Firefox download client, which also had problems.
[01:05] <Hfuy> It ain't me.
[01:05] <Vixus> Seveas: what is baobab?
[01:06] <Madpilot> Hfuy: Ubuntu seems to be having various server troubles right now...
[01:06] <Seveas> see the 3rd part progs section on the forums
[01:06] <Hfuy> I appreciate you Linux types like to keep things to yourself, but what is this, some kind of server that's detecting I'm using Windows and refusing me the download? :)
[01:06] <twoSharp> what do i need to install on a server-install to get gdm, xorg and xfce?
[01:06] <dooglus> Hfuy: what URL are you downloading from?
[01:06] <peterretief> seems dns is down - or servers?
[01:06] <apokryphos> twoSharp: get ubuntu-desktop
[01:06] <Madpilot> peterretief: see the topic
[01:06] <Hfuy> http://ubuntu.hands.com/releases/breezy/ubuntu-5.10-preview-install-i386.iso
[01:06] <Seveas> peterretief, only apache
[01:07] <peterretief> ahh
[01:07] <Seveas> vsftpd runs just fine there ;)
[01:07] <blekos> is debfoster safe?
[01:07] <twoSharp> i tried yesterday, but then the screen got bvlack and i had to reboot... i have an clean server-install now..
[01:07] <apokryphos> twoSharp: if you don't wanna do all that, just grab gdm and and xfce, and they should pull in all the other necessary stuff (you'll be on a pretty minimal desktop install, mind you)
[01:07] <apokryphos> blekos: if used properly, of course, yes.
[01:07] <peter_> are the ubuntu repo's down?
[01:07] <blekos> morning apokryphos
[01:07] <apokryphos> pete_: nope
[01:07] <peterretief> I tried to install rails and got bunches of errors
[01:07] <[LethAL] > peter_, topic
[01:07] <nybble> what a rainstorm
[01:08] <LutzWalsh> hello
[01:08] <peter_> ah
[01:08] <peter_> sri
[01:08] <dooglus> Hfuy: I can resume that URL just fine using wget.
[01:08] <blekos> what's the command for addressing a person, not priv.ms
[01:08] <blekos> is it / tell. / say?
[01:08] <apokryphos> !tab
[01:08] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC.
[01:08] <Hfuy> dooglus: Right now so can I, but I left it downloading overnight - and tried twice yesterday - and it failed in an apparently-unresumable way.
[01:08] <Vixus> aftertaf: I use Gnome, can I still use superkaramba?
[01:08] <brrrt> ahh, i c , well the topic contains the solution of my prob :D
[01:08] <Ruaraidh> sorry to be a bore, but I don't suppose anyone knows when archive.ubuntu.com will be back up? thanks
[01:08] <dooglus> peter_: the http server seems to be down.  replace "http:" with "ftp:" in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:08] <pcharky> Vixus: use gdesklets
[01:09] <peter_> thnx dooglus
[01:09] <Madpilot> later, all. need sleep. have fun...
[01:09] <josip> Any problems with hoary's repos ?
[01:09] <[LethAL] > josip, topic
[01:09] <brrrt> with ftp instead of http in my sources.list everything is fine :)
[01:09] <blekos> let me answer
[01:09] <blekos> check the topic...
[01:09] <Vixus> pcharky: ok :D
[01:09] <blekos> lol
[01:09] <twoSharp> apokryphos: I did fetch gdm, xfce and xserver-xorg yesterday.. but then the screen got black and i couldn't see anything.. i could have fixed it in recoverymode but i reinstalled, cause i had been installing many unneeded packages...
[01:10] <dooglus> Ruaraidh: it's not down.  use "ftp" instead of "http"
[01:10] <Knelix> Hey guys... is there any local app/protocol I can use to send instant text messages (ala AIM, etc) from between my Mac OS X and x86 Ubuntu machines without sending it all around the Internet?
[01:10] <dooglus> Knelix: jabber
[01:10] <nybble> Knelix: like rendevouz?
[01:10] <Knelix> nybble: yes.
[01:10] <nybble> Knelix: err... Bonjour
[01:10] <apokryphos> twoSharp: xserver-xorg gives you all the necessary X stuff, and xfce ideally should pull in all the things you need. Are you short on space?
[01:10] <Knelix> nybble: Hehe. Exactly.
[01:11] <Knelix> dooglus: Jabber can do this?
[01:11] <goo> Knelix: yes. IRC and DCC chat.
[01:11] <dooglus> Knelix: yes.
[01:11] <Knelix> hmm.
[01:11] <LutzWalsh> I have a problem with installing Ubuntu on my "mac G4 gig ethernet" trying to run the installer, some text appears. but everything stops on some "[57.2383651]  ohci_hcd: 2004 Nov 08 USB 1.1 'Open'  Hpst Controller (OHCI) Driver (PCI) under topic "Missing kernel or user mode driver aec62xx"
[01:11] <Knelix> goo: I am unfamiliar with DCC.
[01:11] <nybble> isnt their a gaim plugin for Rendezvouz/Bonjour?
[01:12] <twoSharp> apokryphos: apokryphos: no, i have lots of it, but i have an assignment to make a small, fast and minimal distro..
[01:12] <dooglus> Knelix: Jabber is Decentralized -- the architecture of the Jabber network is similar to email; as a result, anyone can run their own Jabber server, enabling individuals and organizations to take control of their IM experience.
[01:12] <Knelix> nybble: That would certainly make things easy.
[01:12] <mulux> Hey, what's the name of the apt package for the documentation for standard c functions? ie so I can do "man printf"
[01:12] <Hfuy> Grumble, mutter - smelly Linux types trying to stop me migrating to their software, mutter grumble.
[01:12] <NiLz> how can I add a location (address) bar in nautilus?
[01:12] <twoSharp> apokryphos: should i apt-get both xserver-xorg and xfce? or will xfce fix that?
[01:12] <apokryphos> twoSharp: well, I see absolutely no reason for installing xfce, gdm, xorg not to work
[01:12] <Knelix> dooglus: But is it point and click easy to do so?
[01:13] <apokryphos> twoSharp: xfce should bring it in, but put it in anyway
[01:13] <twoSharp> apokryphos: =) was the repositories down yesterday?
[01:13] <nybble> twoSharp, and still are
[01:13] <goo> Knelix: Omg. Why ask that question if the answer you want is something you are _familiar_ with? If you know about something already, why ask a question like you did??
[01:13] <Hfuy> Hm, now I seem to be downloading Ubuntu at 95.3Kb/sec, which is pretty impressive for half-meg home ADSL
[01:14] <twoSharp> nybble i know its down, but was it down for about 12 hours ago?
[01:14] <nybble> yea...
[01:14] <Hfuy> So impressive, in fact, that I think it's probably lying to me.
[01:14] <nybble> its been down since about midnight
[01:14] <nybble> est
[01:14] <Hfuy> Would this have anything to do with the fact that the server I'm downloading from seems to be about as reliable as a Russian nuclear reactor safety system?
[01:14] <twoSharp> apokryphos: maybe thats the problem i got yesterday? not all packages could install
[01:15] <CrTr> where is sources.list ?
[01:15] <CrTr> i forgot :/
[01:15] <Wilf> in my pants
[01:15] <peterretief> /etc/apt/sources
[01:15] <dooglus> Knelix: I don't know.  I never tried it.
[01:15] <NiLz> how can I add a location (address) bar in nautilus? does any1 know?
[01:15] <apokryphos> twoSharp: that is indeed a problem; you shouldn't have tried to start things before they did =)
[01:16] <[LethAL] > /etc/apt/sourcs.list
[01:16] <[LethAL] > sources.list*
[01:16] <Knelix> goo: Huh? I'm sorry, I don't get your frustrations. I know I have been asking a lot of questions and forgive me if I am frustrating you... I am not familiar with any combo app/protocal to do what I want. I know "Bonjour" but did not know there was a plugin for gaim. Again, I am very new to actually experiencing the Linux world and I know I'm asking really basic questions. Sorry if I annoy.
[01:16] <mulux> please, can someone tell me the package name of the "standard c library" manpages?
[01:17] <Seveas> mulux, manpages-dev
[01:17] <mulux> Seveas: thanks!
[01:17] <typo> when I connect an external usb disk breezy mounts it and nautilus shows an entry for it in "Computer" but it thinks it's not mounted and won't open it or put an icon in the desktop
[01:18] <Tirno> how do I inform apt-get that I've changed sources.list?
[01:18] <Vixus> my gnome looks so crappy and boring :/
[01:18] <kairu0> typo, does mount show that its mounted?
[01:18] <apokryphos> Tirno: sudo apt-get update
[01:18] <kairu0> Tirno, apt-get update
[01:18] <[LethAL] > Tidus, sudo apt-get update
[01:18] <Tirno> it's still trying to connect to http
[01:18] <Vixus> kairu0: I think you can get mount to show you a list, yes
[01:19] <typo> kairu0: yes
[01:19] <Vixus> must make it cooler!!
[01:19] <Knelix> goo, dooglus: I'm just looking for a "quick (and if necessary) dirty" fix for something I'm doing right now... I find I need to pass a lot of info sometimes between the machines and e-Mail is kinda slow and cumbersome. I remember directly connecting via the terminal (on dial-up) to a remote computer years ago.. I don't know if that kind of thing can be done now on a network (I wouldn't know how).
[01:19] <glick> do some laptops have transponders in them?
[01:19] <svizzero> anyone knows why after booting the ubuntu install cd without framebuffer support the system hangs after booting the kernel?
[01:19] <bachler> anyone have any suggestions on how to get usplash working. im using the breezy preview
[01:19] <Tirno> ah shit. the replace all didn't work
[01:19] <apokryphos> bachler: did you upgrade from hoary?
[01:19] <Vixus> how do I use gDesklets?
[01:19] <Hfuy> "Hoary Hedgehog"?
[01:19] <Seveas> bachler, apt-get install usplash
[01:19] <Hfuy> "Breezy Badger"?
[01:19] <bachler> apokryphos: nope, clean install
[01:20] <typo> kairu0: I upgraded from hoary
[01:20] <Seveas> dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)
[01:20] <Vixus> doesn't it put itself in the gnome menu?
[01:20] <goo> Knelix: ah. you could use netcat - or nc :)
[01:20] <apokryphos> bachler: what Seveas said :)
[01:20] <dooglus> should I be able to type into my nautilus location bar?
[01:20] <Hfuy> Whatever next, Calamitous Kangaroo?
[01:20] <dooglus> the one I can see doesn't seem to have anywhere to type
[01:20] <Vixus> does gDesklets start on login?
[01:20] <dooglus> Hfuy: "dapper drake" and "grumpy groundhog" :)
[01:20] <Knelix> goo: Heh. Will look it up now. ;-)
[01:21] <typo> kairu0: any idea?
[01:21] <kairu0> typo, can you access the mounted disk from the command line?
[01:21] <glick> are there laptops with transponders in them?
[01:21] <[LethAL] > Vixus, If you ask it to
[01:21] <goo> Knelix: then you just paste something into an terminal window on one machine, and get it out on the other end.
[01:21] <shinu> is there something wrong with the .gb repos?
[01:21] <[LethAL] > shinu, topic
[01:21] <kairu0> typo, in a terminal change to the mounted directory and see if it shows you your files
[01:21] <Hfuy> Ubuntu Linux 10.5 - Pandemic Panther.
[01:21] <smott> how do i turn down the brightness of a laptop screen? (no control apparent)
[01:21] <shinu> [LethAL] : oh sorry, didnt notice
[01:21] <bachler> Seveas: yeah, i have it installed, but it doesnt start at boottime.. u can start i manually after boot, but i think it is something with /etc/rc?.d/s??usplash, or am i at the wrong track?
[01:21] <Seveas> dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r) <---
[01:22] <apokryphos> Seveas: any news on the actuall downness? Reasons?
[01:22] <Seveas> apokryphos, still no idea
[01:22] <apokryphos> spooky
[01:22] <Vixus> i need pyXMMS
[01:22] <bachler> Seveas: yeah, i have done that, but i doesnt work..
[01:22] <Seveas> we need to wait till elmo wakes up :)
[01:22] <nybble> hey seveas, might i get a uname and password for your repo?
[01:23] <apokryphos> bachler: are you *sure*? That really does do it. Is usplash definitely installed?
[01:23] <Hfuy> It's at times like this I wish I could just go out and BuUY
[01:23] <Hfuy> ...er, BUY ubuntu.
[01:23] <blekos> new kernel version...
[01:23] <catfox> is there a better bootsplash for breezy, or is there only a 16 colour boot?
[01:23] <typo> kairu0: yes, I can, it's mounted just fine
[01:23] <Knelix> goo: Trying to find a Mac OS X version now..
[01:23] <blekos> hope to b faster...
[01:23] <bachler> alexander@brejk:~$ ls /sbin/us*
[01:23] <bachler> /sbin/usplash  /sbin/usplash_write
[01:23] <bachler> alexander@brejk:~$
[01:23] <typo> kairu0: and I can access it in nautilus if I go to Filesystem/media/...
[01:23] <blekos> how can uninstall a program?
[01:23] <apokryphos> bachler: don't paste in here
[01:23] <blekos> is there a command?
[01:23] <bachler> apokryphos: sry..
[01:24] <apokryphos> blekos: sudo apt-get remove <package>   (and use --purge option if you want to)
[01:24] <blekos> what is --purge?
[01:24] <dooglus> is gnome-screenshot broken in breezy now?
[01:24] <bachler> dooglus: works 4 me
[01:24] <goo> Knelix: you really should get fink for your macosx (http://fink.sourceforge.net/) - then you can apt-get install stuff on macosx as easy as on Ubuntu :)
[01:24] <Vixus> how do I install pyXMMS?
[01:25] <apokryphos> blekos: man pages are your friend 8). Anyhow, it's for removing the config files too
[01:25] <goo> Vixus: apt-get install python-xmms
[01:25] <Knelix> goo: So, I've been told. I am highly considering it. :-)
[01:25] <kairu0> typo, have you changed the mount point of this drive?
[01:25] <Hfuy> Seriously, how is it possible that I'm downloading Ubuntu at 80Kb/sec on 512Kbit DSL.
[01:25] <Oly> help, i am completely lost, i am getting very bright / faded colours from my monitor and have no idea why
[01:25] <Hfuy> ...which usually maxes out at about 52.
[01:25] <Oly> the monitor settings are fine
[01:25] <Seveas> nybble, sure
[01:25] <blekos> yes u r right
[01:25] <Seveas> sec..
[01:25] <Oly> its definately software some where
[01:25] <nybble> yay!
[01:25] <Oly> i know xorg.conf is fine
[01:25] <goo> Vixus: sorry...  sudo apt-get install python-xmms
[01:26] <typo> kairu0: I have no mount point for it it's mounted by pmount by gnome-volume-manager
[01:26] <Oly> where else should i look for things that could affect the monitor ?
[01:26] <bachler> Seveas: does grub need to pass any options to the kernel besides vga=?
[01:26] <Oly> i have tried more than one monitor all come out faded
[01:26] <Hfuy> Are you near some source of magnetism, such as a loudspeaker?
[01:26] <Seveas> bachler, vga= parameters disable usplash
[01:26] <Oly> tv out is correct though, the colours are vivid like they should be
[01:26] <twosharp> apokryphos: now I have installed gdm and xfce4, shouldn't i be able to startx now?
[01:27] <dooglus> bachler: is it very slow to start up?
[01:27] <Oly> nope no speakers
[01:27] <er4z0r> mornin
[01:27] <Hfuy> oly: Er.
[01:27] <cevizoglu> Oly, or another monitor nearby?
[01:27] <westex> anyone speak russian?
[01:27] <bachler> Seveas: oh.. :-D then i think i know what the problem is, thanks
[01:27] <Vixus> goo: thanks
[01:27] <bachler> dooglus: nope
[01:27] <Hfuy> You know, what I really should do is to make this laptop dual-boot win2k and Ubuntu.
[01:27] <Hfuy> Is this possible?
[01:27] <dooglus> bachler: it takes 30 seconds for me!
[01:27] <apokryphos> twosharp: yes; double-check that you have xorg... dpkg -l|grep xserver-xorg
[01:27] <Seveas> Hfuy, the installer sets that up for you
[01:27] <Vixus> any idea how to make gdesklets start on login?
[01:27] <Oly> there is a tv underneath the monitor, but i do not believe it is the cause as another montiro in another location does it as well
[01:27] <Oly> also the colours are fine on boot
[01:28] <[LethAL] > Vixus, System, Preferences, Session
[01:28] <Oly> like the terminal screen
[01:28] <[LethAL] > Vixus, Third tab
[01:28] <Oly> before it gets into gdm
[01:28] <Oly> but gdm is faded
[01:28] <kairu0> typo, at one point did this drive work correctly under breezy?
[01:28] <cevizoglu> westex, seven on #ubuntu-ru
[01:28] <typo> kairu0: no
[01:28] <Oly> i have tryed replaceing, xorg.conf with an older known working version but this makes no difference as well
[01:28] <nomasteryoda> Oly, is this a laptop?
[01:28] <typo> kairu0: but I've tried another as well with the same result
[01:28] <twosharp> apokryphos: dpkg -L? or -I? i can't copy text in console
[01:29] <Oly> no a desktop
[01:29] <apokryphos> twosharp: lowercase el
[01:29] <Knelix> nybble: Yes, there is a developmental gaim plugin for Bonjour, but it seems I need to compile the source and so forth... which I've never really done before on Linux.
[01:29] <cevizoglu> Oly, try moving it away from the tv and trying it
[01:29] <nomasteryoda> weird
[01:29] <twosharp> apokryphos: then i don't have it
[01:29] <typo> kairu0: it looks like nautilus' fault
[01:29] <apokryphos> twosharp: so sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg
[01:29] <Hfuy> Seveas: If I wanted dualboot, which would I set up first?
[01:29] <nybble> Knelix: want me to give it a go?
[01:29] <Oly> i have tried a different monitor, which i tried which is not next to the tv
[01:29] <[LethAL] > Anyone have an idea on why my rt2570-based wireless adapter randomly goes down? Is there an uninteractive workaround as I'm not here all the time
[01:29] <oriol> hola
[01:29] <Hfuy> Presumably Ubuntu, as win2k wouldn't know to leave any space free for it.
[01:29] <Oly> it seems software related
[01:29] <apokryphos> twosharp: and get xorg-common
[01:29] <Vixus> agh, this is odd
[01:29] <nybble> knelix: i *should* be able to test it with a mac today, or soon
[01:30] <nomasteryoda> [LethAL] , wireless phone inerferance
[01:30] <Oly> but other than X i do not see what could effect the colours in this way
[01:30] <[LethAL] > nomasteryoda, No wireless phone
[01:30] <Knelix> nybble: I wasn't really suggesting that, but if you'd like to sure. ;-) Here's where I found the info: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/summerofcode/juanjo/
[01:30] <nomasteryoda> no cordless phone?
[01:30] <kairu0> typo, did you update to the latest gnome?
[01:30] <Oly> its like the contrast and brightness are turned up
[01:30] <Oly> but they are not
[01:30] <nybble> knelix: actually, i'm interested now
[01:30] <[LethAL] > nomasteryoda, Only thing on same band afaik is my frequency-hopping gamepad
[01:31] <nomasteryoda> ah
[01:31] <Knelix> nybble: It's the third paragraph in the top entry.
[01:31] <nybble> oki
[01:31] <twosharp> in which package do i find "network-admin"?
[01:31] <nomasteryoda> [LethAL] , using breezy?
[01:31] <typo> kairu0: yes, nautilus is 2.12.0
[01:31] <[LethAL] > nomasteryoda, Would switching channels help perhaps?
[01:31] <nomasteryoda> might try it
[01:31] <[LethAL] > nomasteryoda, Yeah, it crashes Hoary
[01:31] <Oly> any other ideas ? or am i going to have to reinstall
[01:31] <Vixus> [LethAL] : I' m trying to use CornerXMMS.
[01:32] <Oly> actually going to try a live cd a sec
[01:32] <Seveas> twosharp, gnome-system-tools
[01:32] <Vixus> [LethAL] : Do I have to run the install_..._sensor.bin?
[01:32] <oggah> how do I get my refreshrate to 85Hz in Ubuntu Hoary? Right now its 70Hz @ 1024. In windows I can run 85Hz @ 1024.
[01:32] <[LethAL] > Vixus, I dunno
[01:32] <Seveas> oggah, edit xorg.conf
[01:32] <Vixus> [LethAL] : what do I do with bin files?
[01:32] <Seveas> Madpilot, ?
[01:33] <Cynicle> hey guys how do i copy a file with the terminal
[01:33] <[LethAL] > ./foo.bin
[01:33] <nomasteryoda> cp file file
[01:33] <nightswim> cp
[01:33] <typo> kairu0: "manager.c/696: executing command: /usr/bin/pmount-hal /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/volume_uuid_4320_A018"
[01:33] <Cynicle> ty
[01:33] <typo> kairu0: looks like g-v-m is doing the right thing
[01:33] <[LethAL] > Vixus, you may need to chmod +x foo.bin first
[01:33] <Knelix> nybble: It's surprising to me that there isn't an included local text computer to computer app/protocol natively included in all systems.
[01:33] <VoX> when is vlc going to be available?
[01:33] <nybble> same here
[01:33] <nybble> knelix: same here...
[01:34] <Vixus> [LethAL] : and then?
[01:34] <oggah> Seveas, ok. I got the xorg.conf open now.
[01:34] <oggah> in nano.
[01:34] <nomasteryoda> VoX, is that the media player?
[01:34] <Oly> vlc is available :p
[01:34] <Knelix> nybble: I mean, AIM is fine, but do you really want to rely on a remote, external server all the time, and send your private network chat halfway around the world just to talk to your neighboring computer? Geez...
[01:34] <[LethAL] > Vixus, ./foo.bin should run it in th terminal or gui
[01:34] <nomasteryoda> i have installed here
[01:34] <VoX> nomasteryoda: yep
[01:35] <Oly> its in universe now on hoary, and breezy
[01:35] <Kuresu> help me
[01:35] <VoX> Oly: yeah, it's available with 6 or 7 unmet dependencies
[01:35] <Kuresu> ubuntu is messing up my HDD
[01:35] <jamey3> Kuresu, how so?
[01:35] <Kuresu> grub doesn't seem to work now
[01:35] <Kuresu> so i can't enter windows
[01:35] <[LethAL] > !tell Kuresu about grub
[01:35] <jamey3> but you can enter ubuntu?
[01:35] <Kuresu> i wanted to format my 2nd partition
[01:36] <Kuresu> that contains ubuntu
[01:36] <Kuresu> so i did it through the ubuntu installation
[01:36] <Cynicle> guys how do i get samba of nfs
[01:36] <jamey3> right
[01:36] <jamey3> and?
[01:36] <Vixus> [LethAL] : I ran it, it said the sensor is installed and can be used by gDesklets, I try to install the desklet in gDesklet by opening the tar.bz2 and it says cannot find sensor
[01:36] <nybble> Knelix: well, the one thing needed (howl) is in the repos
[01:36] <[LethAL] > Vixus, No idea, I don't use gDesklets
[01:36] <Kuresu> im running ubuntu live
[01:36] <typo> kairu0: I'm using a self-compiled 2.6.13 kernel. Could it be that? Doesn't seem like it since the mount works fine
[01:37] <Vixus> does anyone use gDesklets?
[01:37] <Hfuy> Crikey, I have 21% of Ubuntu
[01:37] <Hfuy> That's the best I've ever done!
[01:37] <nomasteryoda> Vixus, you need to install sensors
[01:37] <Knelix> nybble: Okay, so I just download howl and I can install the plugin? Lemme look...
[01:37] <Cynicle> hey can anyone tell me how to get samba or NFS
[01:37] <nomasteryoda> set it up
[01:37] <Oly> um, i installed it on my laptop vox it never complained about dependancies
[01:37] <nomasteryoda> then it should work
[01:37] <Oly> do not think i have tried it yet though :p
[01:37] <Oly> maybe i will in a sec
[01:37] <Hfuy> And now I have to reboot. Here's hoping it resumes...
[01:37] <Oly> if i can get this monitor working
[01:37] <nomasteryoda> search the repos for it
[01:37] <ppine> Goodday all
[01:38] <kairu0> typo, yeah i think its a volume manager thing. as far as the kernel goes, the drive is working. its nautilus thats asking for a spanking
[01:38] <kairu0> volume manager thing = nautilus thing
[01:38] <Vixus> nomasteryoda: I did... apparently
[01:38] <typo> kairu0: yes, don't know what though, any ideas?
[01:39] <nomasteryoda> Vixus, what happens when you type sensors in console?
[01:39] <Vixus> nomasteryoda: I ran the install_sensor.bin and it said you can now use this sensor in gDeskelts
[01:39] <nomasteryoda> k
[01:40] <Vixus> nomasteryoda: I used the install package dialog in gDesklets Shell and selected the cornerxmms.tar.bz2 archive.
[01:40] <typo> kairu0: btw why doesn't breezy mount external drives as "sync" anymore? looks dangerous
[01:40] <nybble> Knelix: ok
[01:40] <Oly> nope i have it installed and working fine in breezy right now vox,
[01:40] <oggah> What horizsync and vertrefresh should I have in xorg.conf for my samsung syncmaster 753DF (crt 17")
[01:40] <nybble> knelix: sudo apt-get install howl-utils libhowl-dev libhowl0
[01:40] <Vixus> nomasteryoda: It says successfully installed, so I try to run the desklet and it says - Could not find sensor...
[01:40] <Oly> using only the standard repos
[01:40] <Cynicle> hey how do i copy a file onto my NTFS windows partion
[01:40] <Cynicle> ?
[01:41] <Oly> do you have extra repositories added perhaps, that might have a different version of vlc ?
[01:41] <cevizoglu> Cynicle, you shouldn't, it's a bad idea
[01:41] <oggah> Cynicle, dont think you can write to ntfs partitions
[01:41] <nomasteryoda> Vixus, ok... but you must ... must .... run the lm_senors detect
[01:41] <oggah> with ubuntu.
[01:41] <Knelix> sudo apt-get install howl-utils libhowl-dev libhowl0 (pasting for Knelix2 :-P )
[01:41] <VoX> so... any ideas how in the hell one installs vlc on breezy?
[01:41] <Vixus> nomasteryoda: what's the command?
[01:41] <cevizoglu> !tell Cynicle about ntfs
[01:41] <shinu> what is the gnome command to manage printers?
[01:42] <Cynicle> so i cant copy my rar files over to windows?
[01:42] <nomasteryoda> sensors-detect i was
[01:42] <kairu0> typo, i cant answer that. you might just be half-way between two implementations. i guess you should either wait for a bug fix for nautilus or try to unmount it manually and mount it again from cli
[01:42] <cevizoglu> !tell VoX about vlc
[01:42] <typo> kairu0: but do you have that working in your computer?
[01:42] <Vixus> nomasteryoda: no such ocmmand
[01:42] <ppine> vox: sudo apt-get install vlc
[01:42] <nomasteryoda> Vixus, sudo apt-get install xsensors
[01:43] <VoX> ppine: yeah thanks, now how does one fix the numerous unmet dependencies?
[01:43] <nomasteryoda> apt-get
[01:43] <catfox> anyone know what app to use to create a dvd video in gnome? (breezy)
[01:43] <Seveas> shinu, gksudo gnome-cups-manager
[01:43] <nomasteryoda> VoX, that is the way... just install with apt
[01:43] <Vixus> nomasteryoda: running sensors-detect
[01:43] <ppine> VoX: hmm try using synaptics instead... worked for me yesterday.
[01:43] <nomasteryoda> k
[01:43] <kairu0> typo, my usb thumb drive mounts fine with gvm. thats all i have to plug in. oh, and most my packages are from before breezys latest colony
[01:44] <Knelix> http://gaim.sourceforge.net/summerofcode/juanjo/
[01:44] <shinu> Seveas: thanks
[01:44] <westex> cevizoglu: OK. Thanks
[01:44] <typo> kairu0: ah, ok
[01:44] <VoX> where's a pastebin?
[01:44] <typo> kairu0: let me check bugzill
[01:44] <nomasteryoda> Vixus, my Dell laptop has no sensor chips...
[01:44] <Seveas> VoX, /topic
[01:44] <VoX> gah
[01:44] <deadcat> anyone able to compile and load the zd1211 module? i can compile and load, but it doesnt do anything. because it didnt load the firmware
[01:44] <JustSteve> hello, does anyone know if i would really see a difference switching to a highmem kernel? i'm running 32bit hoary on an A64 with 1 gig of memory
[01:44] <nomasteryoda> most of them do not... that's another reason they stink
[01:44] <cevizoglu> westex, yw
[01:45] <Vixus> nomasteryoda: I'm talking about gDesklets sensors here, right?
[01:45] <VoX> ppine/nomasteryoda: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2508
[01:45] <root> don't call me sacriligeous, but im making my own distro
[01:45] <nomasteryoda> yea
[01:45] <root> just testing irssi, it works
[01:45] <root> :D
[01:46] <[LethAL] > Why isn't there a linux-headers metapackage? :S
[01:46] <ppine> Vox: Je moet je dependancy aanpassen dan
[01:46] <ppine> Vox: je repis ding
[01:46] <nomasteryoda> the same thing Vixus .... gDesklets gets info from lm_sensors to display fan speeds, temps of cpu/ m/b
[01:46] <Vixus> nomasteryoda: ok
[01:46] <VoX> ppine: english please
[01:47] <Oly> vox, are you using any unstandard repositories as that would be my guess as to the cause, else perhaps try doing a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade first
[01:47] <Vixus> nomasteryoda: I'm trying to install CornerXMMS just now.
[01:47] <Vixus> nomasteryoda: What's next?
[01:47] <ppine> Vox: Thought u was dutch, cause the link u pasted
[01:47] <Oly> thats all i can think of it it still does not work i am cluless :p
[01:47] <nomasteryoda> Vixus, so corner is in the repos?
[01:48] <Vixus> nomasteryoda: i dunno... i just downloaded CornerXMMS-0.0.5.tar.bz2
[01:48] <DNAku-ibook> hi
[01:48] <mikhail^> I had been writing a wiki entry for the good part of the last 20 minutes (which is quite a lot already), then firefox crashes.
[01:48] <mikhail^> geeeeez...
[01:48] <DNAku-ibook> I seem to have problems booting the ubunut hoary installation cd on my parents computer
[01:48] <ppine> Vox: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2509
[01:48] <DNAku-ibook> I already edited the bios setting
[01:48] <VoX> Oly: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2510  my sources.list
[01:48] <ppine> Vox: use that as your sources.list
[01:48] <cevizoglu> mikhail^, maybe you should write with your fav text editor and paste into the wiki
[01:48] <DNAku-ibook> but I think I need a floppy to boot from the cd
[01:49] <nomasteryoda> Vixus, it would be better if you could find a .deb package.... easier
[01:49] <mikhail^> cevizoglu: maybe firefox shouldn't crash in the firstplace...
[01:49] <cevizoglu> mikhail^, mine doesn't  :P
[01:49] <mikhail^> cevizoglu: good for you.
[01:49] <nybble> knelix: hows it going?
[01:49] <Cynicle> grrrr
[01:50] <DNAku-ibook> so my question is; how do I make a bootfloppy for ubuntu hoary
[01:50] <nomasteryoda> Vixus, looks like it might already be in gdesklets-data
[01:50] <Cynicle> so i cannot put a rar file from ubunatu to windows
[01:50] <Cynicle> on the same comp
[01:50] <Knelix> nybble: I was sent you a private message... don't know if you got it.
[01:50] <Knelix> * That is, I sent you
[01:50] <nomasteryoda> Vixus, et. al. command for searching apt from terminal is "sudo apt-cache search filename"
[01:51] <mikhail^> first, the wiki takes forever to update, then after 20 minutes writing something in the wiki page edit form, the fscking browser conks out.
[01:51] <nomasteryoda> or in this case I searched for corner
[01:51] <yao_> how can play the mp3 from xp?
[01:51] <cevizoglu> nomasteryoda, sudo isn't needed for that command
[01:51] <nomasteryoda> k
[01:51] <nomasteryoda> glad to know
[01:51] <Knelix> nybble: I was able to install howl, thanks to your instructions.
[01:52] <Vixus> nomasteryoda: aha
[01:52] <ppine> Anyone knows howto play files from over a smb share ? i can see al the files etc / rename / create etc ... but it just wont play.
[01:52] <Knelix> nybble: Now, I'm trying to figure out what else to do. :-)
[01:52] <Vixus> nomasteryoda: gdesklets-data not installed
[01:52] <VoX> ppine: that's a broken sources.list
[01:52] <nomasteryoda> Vixus, aha
[01:52] <nybble> ok
[01:52] <yao_> adm,wo can tell me
[01:52] <ppine> VoX: hmm does work here,
[01:52] <BiSK-8> hello
[01:53] <ppine> VoX: i do get a little error though :)   but nuffin critical ... all the us. ca. servers seem to be down.
[01:53] <nomasteryoda> so is there a fix for the Alps touchpad now?
[01:53] <VoX> ppine: and it still has unmet dependencies when i try to install vlc
[01:53] <nomasteryoda> i know it must be added to the kernel and hear that 2.6.13 has that support built in
[01:53] <smott> is there any guide or any essential tips on how to minimise ram use on ubuntu (well, gnome2)?
[01:53] <BiSK-8> i need help with gtkpod, i plugged in mu y ipod but it wont read the database, i tried 2 sinchronise it but it wont work, a popup comes out and i pressed ok without reading and lost my whole database.... how can i get my ipod plugged in properly?
[01:54] <ppine> VoX: i get u do run it as root ? sudo ...
[01:54] <eruin> BiSK-8, are you using breezy?
[01:54] <BiSK-8> what?
[01:54] <customer_> ya right
[01:54] <BiSK-8> what's breezy?
[01:54] <Vixus> nomasteryoda: but there's just rhythmlet... no cornerXMMS
[01:54] <eruin> if you don't know, then you don't ;)
[01:54] <eruin> 'breezy is the next version of ubuntu
[01:54] <nomasteryoda> ah, then you will have to do what it says in that tar package...
[01:54] <eruin> I'm having ipod issues too with my nano
[01:54] <eruin> :/
[01:54] <BiSK-8> oh
[01:55] <BiSK-8> argh
[01:55] <nomasteryoda> configure, make and make install i'm guessing
[01:55] <BiSK-8> im using hoary hedghog
[01:55] <VoX> ppine: yeah, i ran it as root
[01:55] <nomasteryoda> !build
[01:55] <ubotu> I heard build is sudo apt-get install build-essential, or use the synaptic package manager to install the build-essential package: or ask me about synaptic
[01:55] <nomasteryoda> Vixus, you need to do that
[01:55] <eruin> my ipod charges as it should, but nothing accepts it
[01:55] <BiSK-8> eruin, what should i do?
[01:55] <eruin> I get a message in dmesg about no valid vfat filesystem
[01:56] <eruin> so it won't even mount
[01:56] <Vixus> nomasteryoda: no instructions
[01:56] <nomasteryoda> ?
[01:56] <nomasteryoda> what ubotu said
[01:56] <BiSK-8> well, eruin, i have mounted it b4 but now it wont work
[01:56] <eruin> BiSK-8, same here
[01:56] <nomasteryoda> !tell Vixus about build
[01:56] <eruin> BiSK-8, have you used itunes5 with it?
[01:56] <BiSK-8> eruin: says that the itunes db hasent been imported
[01:56] <catfox> anyone know what app to use to create a dvd video in gnome? (breezy)
[01:57] <eruin> BiSK-8, I could mount it before I used iTunes5 to synch it
[01:57] <BiSK-8> no
[01:57] <BiSK-8> i havent
[01:57] <BiSK-8> since i bought it ive always used gtkpod
[01:57] <Vixus> nomasteryoda: it's installed.
[01:57] <BiSK-8> u know any other good programs 4 the ipod?
[01:57] <Vixus> nomasteryoda: i just run build?
[01:57] <Master`> does anybody knows what should i do if i wanna get rid of ubuntu and got my partion back so it can works with my xp
[01:57] <nomasteryoda> er nope
[01:58] <nomasteryoda> Vixus, extract the file
[01:58] <eruin> BiSK-8, not yet... banshee and rhythmbox development versions are starting to look good, but nowhere near feature complete
[01:58] <nomasteryoda> cd into that folder in terminal
[01:58] <nomasteryoda> type "ls"
[01:58] <Seveas> apache is back up
[01:58] <nomasteryoda> if you see configure, then you run it
[01:59] <nomasteryoda> with ./configure
[01:59] <BiSK-8> eruin, how do i import my itunes db?
[01:59] <Master`> guys i need some help
[01:59] <Master`> does anybody knows what should i do if i wanna get rid of ubuntu and got my partion back so it can works with my xp
[01:59] <Vixus> nomasteryoda: There is no configure
[01:59] <BiSK-8> format it master
[01:59] <ppine> VoX: is it possible for you to install Mplayer ?
[01:59] <Seveas> Master`, ask in a windows help channel :)
[01:59] <Master`> cuz my modems dosent support ubunto
[01:59] <VoX> ppine: yeah, it's in and working fine
[01:59] <nomasteryoda> er, is there a make?
[02:00] <VoX> ppine: but there's some things mplayer wont do that vlc does
[02:00] <Seveas> but yeah just formatting and running the XP installer is enough
[02:00] <Vixus> nope
[02:00] <BiSK-8> eruin: how do i import it?
[02:00] <eruin> BiSK-8, gtkpod is _supposed_ to be able to do it
[02:00] <Vixus> just a Install_CornerXMMS_Sensor.bin
[02:00] <eruin> but I can't get it to work either
[02:00] <nomasteryoda> ok
[02:00] <kairu0> VoX, how is your vlc for windows media content?
[02:00] <Vixus> and corner-xmms.bottomright.display
[02:00] <BiSK-8> so u think i should format my ipod eruin?
[02:00] <nomasteryoda> what happens when you run it?
[02:00] <Master`> how i can format it , the drive not showing when i start windows startup disk
[02:00] <m0r0n> What can I do if a program wont start without any message?
[02:00] <VoX> kairu0: huh?
[02:00] <ppine> VoX: Oh allright, well both just installed correctly here , cant help out to much i am just using linux for the 2nd day now.
[02:00] <Vixus> nomasteryoda: hold on
[02:00] <Master`> can i format it from ubuntu itself
[02:00] <nomasteryoda> k
[02:01] <BiSK-8> master, format the whole drive
[02:01] <oggah> How should i set the 'HorizSync' and 'VertRefresh' values in xorg.conf to match the monitor. Ive found some info about my monitor: Horizontal Scan: 30-71Hz | Max resolution: 1280x1024 @ 65Hz
[02:01] <eruin> BiSK-8, didn't help me at all
[02:01] <Vixus> nomasteryoda: it runs a py file, and says: "The Sensor was installed successfully. Gdesklets is now able to use it."
[02:01] <oggah> sry, 30-70Hz.
[02:01] <kairu0> VoX, dont you play any .wmv files with vlc?
[02:01] <eruin> BiSK-8, after formatting, I can't even mount it in linux
[02:01] <ppine> Why oh Why cant i play multimedia files from over me smb network ?? it loads an mp3 in xmms and then just doenst do anything ? ...
[02:02] <ppine> xmms stil is the best audio player for linux right ?
[02:02] <m0r0n> There are many programs doing nothing.
[02:02] <Seveas> ppine,
[02:02] <Seveas> no
[02:02] <mypapit> kohkoh
[02:02] <Hfuy> I've just failed downloading Ubuntu for the fourth time in a row.
[02:03] <Hfuy> I've now downloaded over 2Gb of data to try and get 600megs.
[02:03] <cevizoglu> ppine, try a different player, xmms doesn't work for me either
[02:03] <mypapit> Hfuy, breezy?
[02:03] <Hfuy> Yes.
[02:03] <Hfuy> The URL is: http://ubuntu.hands.com/releases/breezy/ubuntu-5.10-preview-install-i386.iso
[02:03] <nomasteryoda> well Vixus then you might should conslut the gdesklets channel if there is such... since it is installed and there... didyou exit gdesklets and restart that applet?
[02:03] <VoX> kairu0: well i would if i could get vlc to install
[02:03] <Hfuy> Is there some other mirror that doesn't suffer the same awful reliability problems?
[02:03] <Vixus> nomasteryoda: nope
[02:03] <oggah> How should i set the 'HorizSync' and 'VertRefresh' values in xorg.conf to match the monitor. Ive found some info about my monitor: Horizontal Scan: 30-70Hz | Max resolution: 1280x1024 @ 65Hz.
[02:03] <ppine> cevizoglu: well the music box thing that came with ubuntu doenst even play audio from the local disc.
[02:03] <ppine> where xmms does a fine job
[02:03] <cevizoglu> Hfuy, if you used bittorrent you wouldn't have that problem
[02:04] <nomasteryoda> well, from my experience the way to make that program see your new desklet apps is t close and restart
[02:04] <Hfuy> I don't have a bittorrent client.
[02:04] <Seveas> Hfuy, try http://releases.ubuntu.com
[02:04] <Hfuy> I don't see why simple FTP should be such a big difficulty
[02:04] <ppine> Seveas: What player should i use best ?
[02:04] <nomasteryoda> !bittorrent
[02:04] <ubotu> well, bittorrent is at <reply> The BitTorrent FAQ is available at: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[02:04] <cevizoglu> !tell ppine about players
[02:04] <Seveas> ppine, whichever you like, beep-media-player vlc mplayer totem and rhythmbox are popular
[02:05] <cevizoglu> ppine: and if you want a command-line player, cplay and mpg123 work well too
[02:05] <nomasteryoda> xine
[02:05] <Elko> ehm, when I do a search in synaptic for w32codecs, it doesn't find anything.. so how can I get mplayer to play .wmv files (with video, the sound is there)
[02:05] <cevizoglu> ppine: ymmv
[02:05] <ppine> ymmv ?
[02:05] <cevizoglu> !ymmv
[02:05] <ubotu> I heard ymmv is Your Mileage May Vary
[02:05] <Seveas> cevizoglu, mpg321 is better than 123 :)
[02:06] <Seveas> !no ymmv is <reply> Your Mileage May Vary
[02:06] <ubotu> okay, Seveas
[02:06] <ppine> i dont get why that rhythmbox could be popular its crap imho it cant even load a file apart. must have a root folder
[02:06] <Vixus> nomasteryoda: Still can't find the sensor, even with the default installed Cornerxmms
[02:06] <Seveas> !forget x-common
[02:06] <ubotu> Seveas: i forgot x-common
[02:06] <nomasteryoda> maybe some link is broken... i.e. cornerxmms thinks it is located where it's not
[02:06] <kairu0> Elko, follow the instructions for windows media at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:07] <nomasteryoda> thats the problem with autoinstall bin files
[02:07] <nomasteryoda> and rpms
[02:07] <apokryphos> ppine: /msg ubotu players  ..for others. I don't like it much either =)
[02:07] <m0r0n> for windows media files simply use windows os
[02:07] <nomasteryoda> run the thing from console and see what it says there
[02:07] <BiSK-8> can any1 tell me how 2 get back a lost database on my ipod? i checked the mounted dir and the songs r still in there, but i cant listen 2 them on my ipod, how do i restore it?
[02:07] <Elko> kairu0: ah, thank you
[02:08] <oggah> how to see free disk space?
[02:08] <Seveas> df -h
[02:08] <oggah> in terminal
[02:08] <oggah> thx
[02:08] <hud> hmm I'm trying to do a make gconfig and it says GTK+2.0 isn't installed, I have install libgtk2.0-dev what else do i need?
[02:08] <oggah> what is tmpfs?
[02:08] <oggah> swap?
[02:09] <vinboy> hi
[02:09] <Seveas> no
[02:09] <vinboy> how do I apt-get force install a package?
[02:09] <Seveas> just an in-memory filesystem like used in /dev
[02:09] <Seveas> vinboy, generally you don't want that...
[02:09] <oggah> ok, hrm. doesnt seem like I got any swap at all. If I do the df -h
[02:09] <ppine> apokryphos: when i type /msg etc nuffin happens, is that because i am using a console client ? irssi ...
[02:09] <vinboy> Seveas, i want that because i have manually installed java
[02:09] <Seveas> df -h shows nothing with swap
[02:09] <vinboy> Seveas, i wan to install azureus but it still wan me to isntall java
[02:09] <apokryphos> ppine: it's because you need to register your nick, probably.
[02:09] <hud> I think my questions are just too difficult for anyone to answer :P
[02:09] <Seveas> oggah, cat /proc/swaps
[02:10] <cevizoglu> Seveas, why is mpg321 better?
[02:10] <ppine> apokryphos: did that.
[02:10] <Seveas> vinboy, then you should install java *properly*
[02:10] <ppine> apokryphos: at NickServ
[02:10] <apokryphos> ppine: if you're registered, then just change irssi part, and you should have the /msg...
[02:10] <Seveas> had what are you compiling?
[02:10] <apokryphos> part/window
[02:10] <Vixus> nomasteryoda: I did run it from console.
[02:10] <Seveas> hud*
[02:11] <ppine> apokryphos: uuuhmm ? ? :)
[02:11] <BiSK-8> can any1 tell me how 2 get back a lost database on my ipod? i checked the mounted dir and the songs r still in there, but i cant listen 2 them on my ipod, how do i restore it?
[02:11] <hud> Seveas: kernel
[02:11] <apokryphos> ppine: why are you using irssi? :/
[02:11] <Seveas> hud, wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto
[02:11] <vinboy> Seveas, oh.. ok.. ican't find java in the repo :(
[02:11] <Cynicle> !ntfs
[02:11] <ppine> apokryphos: kinda like it.
[02:11] <cevizoglu> BiSK-8, with the iPod Software Restore app
[02:11] <Vixus> nomasteryoda: I don't think they're getting installed properly.
[02:11] <apokryphos> ppine: ..compared to others?
[02:11] <Seveas> vinboy, you can use java-package to make a .deb from the .bin file
[02:12] <apokryphos> ppine: anyhow, alt+1 goes to window/tab one, alt+2, tab two etc etc
[02:12] <vinboy> ?
[02:12] <hud> Seveas; that doesn't show how to make gconfig
[02:12] <oggah> cat /proc/swaps , doing this command shows a partition with size 1510068.
[02:12] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell vinboy about sunjava
[02:12] <ppine> apokryphos: compared to bitchx, and xchat wich is fine also. but with the idea of starting at linux i taught better to keep it console/minimal
[02:12] <oggah> gosh, my swap is like 1,5gb.
[02:12] <Seveas> hud, it tells you why not to use that :)
[02:12] <vinboy> thanks
[02:12] <hud> At this point, you need to change your kernel's configuration to statically include your bus, disk, and filesystem drivers. This can be rather difficult if you don't know what you're doing. Use "make menuconfig" (or "make xconfig", gconfig, etc.) to change the config.
[02:13] <hud> I fail to see what you mean
[02:13] <fredforfaen> what app in ubuntu stands for automounting cd's dvd's , usb storage and so on?
[02:13] <apokryphos> ppine: which is rubbish. You should always vary between CLI/GUI depending on which is superior for the thing you want to accomplish, or which you prefer.
[02:13] <oggah> can I resize the swap? I got 512Mb ram. 1gig swap would be more suitable.
[02:13] <Seveas> hud, ehrm, WHY do you need that??
[02:13] <Seveas> initrd/initramfs handle this...
[02:13] <hud> I thought it would be nice to do the config in xwin instead of console?\
[02:13] <ppine> apokryphos: alt+l doenst do anything alt+2/3 etc does, but just switches between open tabs, not any new msg windows from irssi
[02:13] <apokryphos> Seveas: recommend sunjava; it's easier/quicker ;-)
[02:13] <Vixus> nomasteryoda: gdesklets sucks... loads of missing sensors :D
[02:14] <Seveas> hud, i mean: why do you need to change your kernel config and make it monolithic?
[02:14] <daejavu> Does Ubuntu comes with a builtin Firewall or do i need to install one like FireStarter ?
[02:14] <Seveas> that's so utterly useless..
[02:14] <cevizoglu> oggah, depends on the filetype of your other partitions, what software you have, and if you can make a backup first
[02:14] <Seveas> !firewall
[02:14] <ubotu> I guess firewall is Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter.
[02:14] <hud> erm
[02:14] <fredforfaen> anyone?
[02:14] <apokryphos> ppine: they should be further on.. if you're registered, the query windows really should be there
[02:14] <hud> what do you mean monolithic?
[02:15] <hud> I need to change my kernel config because I need to edit modules etc, this is a laptop it's installed on
[02:15] <daejavu> humm ... and can anyone suggest a Virus Guard ... like norton for winz ?
[02:15] <Seveas> hud, you don't need a kernel recompile for that...
[02:15] <Vixus> are there any other desklets sort of things for gnome?
[02:15] <ppine> apokryphos: just 2 tabs open one for irssi one for cli, sure im registered else im not able to join #ubuntu   ill startup a gui app -xchat.
[02:15] <hud> oh?
[02:15] <Seveas> daejavu, clam-av
[02:15] <Seveas> ppine, #ubuntu is not on +r now
[02:15] <fredforfaen> does anyone know what the program in ubuntu that mounts stuff is named?
[02:15] <Seveas> so anyone can enter
[02:16] <hud> I need to change the ACPI options at least
[02:16] <cevizoglu> fredforfaen, mount
[02:16] <Seveas> ppine, and you currently are identified to services
[02:16] <daejavu> Seveas, its excellent but it  lacks a GUI
[02:16] <hud> besides, it's better to compile a kernel based on your system is it not?
[02:16] <fredforfaen> cevizoglu mount in cli yeah , but whats the automount program
[02:16] <Seveas> hud, nonsense
[02:16] <ppine> Seveas: im identified to services ? ...
[02:16] <hud> well then do explain
[02:16] <Seveas> ppine, /whois ppine
[02:16] <cevizoglu> fredforfaen, are you looking for fstab?
[02:16] <fredforfaen> no
[02:17] <henke> fredforfaen, gnome-volume-manager ?
[02:17] <apokryphos> ppine: incorrect
[02:17] <Seveas> hud, in the 'old days' like the 90's that was needed
[02:17] <fredforfaen> im looking for the program that automounts stuff
[02:17] <apokryphos> ppine: you can join, currently, without being registered.
[02:17] <fredforfaen> i want automounting to work in xfce4 to and not just in gnome
[02:17] <ppine> apokryphos: get that now... ill switch to xchat also /whois info doenst appear in this client....
[02:17] <hud> and nowadays??
[02:18] <apokryphos> ppine: personally I prefer kvirc, but xchat is ok
[02:18] <Belutz> fredforfaen: it's suppose to work also in xfce, it doesn't matter what window manager do you use
[02:18] <oggah> How can I make what windowmanager ubuntu should boot with?
[02:18] <Skid> hi chaps, when updating/installing apt packages, I keep getting these packages cannot be verfied, continue with install [y/N]  - any idea why I'm getting that all of a sudden?
[02:18] <fredforfaen> Belutz no it doesent...nothing automounts here now,,,,just in gnome
[02:18] <Elko> kairu0: doesn't work :(
[02:18] <Belutz> fredforfaen: what do you want to mount? hdd?
[02:19] <Seveas> hud, nowadays a good distribution provides kernels that are good
[02:19] <Seveas> and Ubuntu kernels are fine.
[02:19] <dooglus> bachler: would you try this for me please, re. the screenshot program being slow?
[02:19] <fredforfaen> Belutz cd's dvd's usb storage and so on
[02:19] <Skid> oggah: you can select sessions from the GDM screen
[02:19] <ppine> apokryphos: who could i message again for info about players ?
[02:19] <Skid> then just select make defaulkt
[02:19] <Skid> default
[02:19] <Belutz> oggah: if you install more than one window manager, you could choose "session" menu
[02:19] <hud> ..you're not really offering me a solution for configuring my ACPI and adding toshiba support etc without kernel recompile
[02:19] <dooglus> bachler: in nautilus, make a new bookmark to "smb://abc123/abc123/abc123".  then try running screenshot.  does it take 15 seconds to start up now?
[02:19] <apokryphos> ppine: the bot, ubotu. /msg ubotu players
[02:19] <hud> nor did you explain why make gconfig doesn't work
[02:19] <henke> fredforfaen, that should be gnome-volume-manager
[02:19] <fredforfaen> aha
[02:20] <ppine> apokryphos: thanks this works.
[02:20] <bachler> dooglus: nope.. it is as fast as ever
[02:21] <dooglus> bachler: strange.
[02:21] <ppine> apokryphos: still it will load but wont play any files over me smb share ....
[02:21] <bachler> dooglus: very.
[02:21] <Mr-Falkor> My distro will "die" if I not get a breezy mirror soon :S
[02:21] <ppine> apokryphos: in beep,xmms,totum etc.
[02:21] <dooglus> bachler: what did the bookmark get called?
[02:21] <Mr-Falkor> anyone can recommend me a dist-upgrade mirror ?
[02:21] <Seveas> Mr-Falkor, ubuntu main archive is back up already
[02:22] <Mr-Falkor> oh
[02:22] <pkern> Is there a way to switch the theme of plain Qt applications (not KDE ones, they look fine)?
[02:22] <ppine> Seveas: Ok thats nice to know, just messed up my sources.list when i awoke :)
[02:22] <Seveas> hud, apt-cache search toshiba
[02:22] <bachler> dooglus: it dint work to make a bookmark to "smb://abc123/abc123/abc123".. or how to u mean? places>connect to server..?
[02:22] <oggah> where Can I find settings about what window manager's gonna boot up etc. in configfiles?
[02:23] <hud> i did that Seveas
[02:23] <Mr-Falkor> Seveas, what is the archive url ?
[02:23] <Seveas> oggah, /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[02:23] <oggah> coz I run some other login manager.
[02:23] <oggah> thanks.
[02:23] <Seveas> !tell Mr-Falkor about sources
[02:23] <hud> look
[02:23] <ppine> anyone has experience with playing multimedia from over a local smb network ??
[02:23] <Seveas> ppine, yeah, works fine
[02:24] <ppine> Seveas: here it isnt :D   it does show the files but wont play ... and like in a browse dialog i cant see the smb network either .. only from nautilus itself.
[02:24] <hud> seveas: did you see the msg?
[02:24] <BiSK-8> can any1 tell me how 2 get back a lost database on my ipod? i checked the mounted dir and the songs r still in there, but i cant listen 2 them on my ipod, how do i restore it?
[02:24] <Skid> yeah so anyone have an idea why im getting the messages Install these packages without verification [y/N] ?
[02:24] <Skid> now, and not before? :)
[02:25] <VoX> skid: because the md5 checksum of the repositry doesnt match up
[02:25] <cevizoglu> BiSK-8, with Apple's supplied iPod Software Restore application
[02:25] <dooglus> bachler: I mean: click the 'places' menu at the top of the screen.  select "computer".  in the new window, click the 'bookmarks' menu, then 'add bookmark'.  then click the 'bookmarks' menu again and 'edit bookmarks'.  then click the 'computer' bookmark and edit the location to be "smb://abc123/abc123/abc123".
[02:25] <ppine> Seveas: isnt there a way to let me browse the network from an open dialog? like it would show up in /mnt or something ?
[02:26] <Seveas> ppine, sure, mount the smb shares :)
[02:26] <Mr-Falkor> Seveas, thank you
[02:26] <hud> FnFX Daemon v0.3 (c) 2003, 2004 Timo Hoenig <thoenig@nouse.net>
[02:26] <hud> fatal error: Could open /proc/acpi/toshiba/keys.
[02:26] <hud> Please make sure that your kernel has enabled the Toshiba option in the ACPI section.
[02:26] <hud> For more information read the documentation and/or http://fnfx.sf.net/index.php?section=doc#kernel.
[02:26] <BiSK-8> cevizoglu, where can i get that?
[02:26] <ppine> searcher: i think i did, it shows on the desktop but not in the /mnt foler
[02:26] <ppine> folder
[02:26] <cevizoglu> BiSK-8, where did you buy your iPod?
[02:26] <Seveas> hud, please don't paste in here.
[02:27] <bachler> dooglus: oh,, then it is called, "abc123 on abc123"
[02:27] <hud> sorry
[02:27] <BiSK-8> cevizoglu, in america, now i live in italy
[02:27] <fredforfaen> that did it , i now can automount in xfce :D
[02:27] <Seveas> hud, probably you need to modprobe the toshiba modules
[02:27] <cevizoglu> BiSK-8, I don't know how to get it, but I borrowed someone's Mac G5 once to restore mine
[02:27] <oggah> when doing "ls" command in terminal, some files are colored green and blue. Does this have a specific meaning?
[02:27] <Belutz> oggah: yes
[02:28] <dooglus> bachler: ok.  and now - is the program slow starting up if you gnome-screenshot ?
[02:28] <Seveas> hud, modprobe toshiba
[02:28] <Seveas> hud, modprobe toshiba_acpi
[02:28] <Seveas> (both)
[02:28] <oggah> what meaning does files colored blue have.
[02:28] <ppine> Seveas: it does also show when i click on places....
[02:28] <Belutz> oggah: it's a directory
[02:28] <cevizoglu> BiSK-8, you're sure gtkpod and pod-utils can't do a restore?
[02:28] <oggah> and green?
[02:28] <bachler> dooglus: yepp, how come?
[02:28] <Belutz> oggah: green usually an executable files
[02:28] <Skid> oggah: green is executeable
[02:28] <Seveas> oggah, blue are folders
[02:28] <dooglus> bachler: bug, I guess.  bachler how slow?  15 seconds?
[02:28] <BiSK-8> how should i restore it with gtkpod cevizoglu?
[02:28] <hud> io error
[02:28] <hud> no such device
[02:28] <Skid> pink are media files
[02:28] <Seveas> pink are media files
[02:28] <Skid> light blue are symlinks
[02:29] <bachler> dooglus: it still isnt up.. :-P
[02:29] <Skid> Seveas: :)
[02:29] <Seveas> lol :)
[02:29] <oggah> cool thanks.
[02:29] <jc-denton> hi all
[02:29] <Belutz> hehehe
[02:29] <dooglus> bachler: I reported it here: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16286 - you could comment on it too with your timing
[02:29] <Seveas> red are compressed files
[02:29] <bachler> dooglus: sure
[02:29] <jc-denton> how can i get sound working with deer park and falsh (on breezy/esd)?
[02:29] <Seveas> red on black background are broken symlinks :)
[02:29] <jc-denton> i'm sure there is a howto or something
[02:30] <jc-denton> but i cant find it
[02:30] <Seveas> jc-denton, wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[02:30] <Seveas> the flash thing works for breezy too
[02:30] <cevizoglu> BiSK-8, not sure how to do it, maybe send an email to the gtkpod dev team
[02:30] <limguohong91>  /server delta.skenmy.com
[02:30] <jc-denton> Seveas: also for deer park?
[02:30] <twoSharp> apokryphos: Thanks a lot :D Now everything works properly =)
[02:31] <bachler> dooglus: well.. it hasn't started yet.. so i think it will never start..
[02:31] <cevizoglu> BiSK-8, the only other thing that comes to mind is running Apple's tool via wine
[02:31] <BiSK-8> oh darn
[02:31] <Skid> yup, so not used to a dist as ubuntu doing everythign auto, but where's the kernel sources kept after a new install?
[02:31] <BiSK-8> i dunno if itll work
[02:32] <jc-denton> well i use deer park beta from mozilla.org
[02:32] <jc-denton> and not the ubuntu package..
[02:33] <jc-denton> humm
[02:33] <Leshrac> is there a tuto on how to get sound working on ubuntu?
[02:34] <jc-denton> lol
[02:34] <Leshrac> I have an asrock motherboard with integrated sound
[02:34] <jc-denton> wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[02:34] <hud> okay...so I guess I'm on my own
[02:34] <kairu0> Elko, did you get the working?
[02:34] <Elko> not yet
[02:34] <kairu0> Elko, did you get w32codecs?
[02:35] <Skid> oops
[02:35] <Elko> Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:35] <kairu0> Elko, i checked and its not in the repos. heres a link that works: ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[02:35] <Elko> how do I install that?
[02:36] <Elko> heh, used to cmmi
[02:36] <twoSharp> are there any graphical ftp-progs that are more stable than gftp?
[02:36] <kairu0> Elko, download it, open a terminal, type sudo dpkg -i w32c...deb (type that out though)
[02:36] <Elko> bless tab completion :)
[02:36] <kairu0> thank god for that
[02:36] <Elko> a dpkg
[02:37] <twoSharp> are there any good graphical ftp-apps that could replace gftp?
[02:37] <Elko> it'll get registred in the apt-db, so I can apt-get remove it later, or do I need to do dpkg -r dor that .deb file?
[02:38] <Elko> s/dor/for/
[02:38] <jc-denton> Seveas: that "fix" doesn't seem to work
[02:38] <jc-denton> i first need to tell flash to use esd
[02:38] <jc-denton> how can i do that?
[02:38] <kairu0> Elko, if you dpkg -i it, you can remove it with apt
[02:38] <Elko> cool
[02:39] <kairu0> Elko, dpkg and apt use the same database
[02:39] <bachler> dooglus: hehe, sry, cant file a bugreport.. i got no account, and my mailserver is down.. so i cant reg a new account..
[02:40] <Elko> kairu0: if you were a girl, I'd kiss you, I got video now :) thanks a bunch.
[02:40] <Linux_Worrior> hey guyz
[02:40] <aCilnv> hi all, i want to buy a PCI Wireless card that work out of the box with ubuntu .. any suggestions ?
[02:40] <Linux_Worrior> can anyone Help me i can not install mozilla-firefox 1.0.7
[02:40] <cevizoglu> wow, the go-open videos are cool, makes me want work for the shuttleworth foundation
[02:41] <Linux_Worrior> or whe i do all te bottoms are messed up there is no text in the manues or webpages
[02:41] <kairu0> Elko, s/kiss/million dollars/ and you got a deal
[02:41] <jc-denton> man i hate these boring probs
[02:41] <Elko> kairu0: heh, wish I had them
[02:41] <kairu0> jc-denton, what is an exciting prob for you?
[02:41] <jc-denton> something which is surely not related to flash
[02:41] <aCilnv> hi all, i want to buy a PCI Wireless card that work out of the box with ubuntu .. any suggestions ?
[02:42] <ppine> Still no luck on playing media from a smb share ... weird.
[02:42] <cevizoglu> aCilnv, check out http://prism54.org
[02:42] <Elko> kairu0: one thing, how did you find that .deb? I was googling for 'ubuntu w32codecs' but got nothing usefull
[02:43] <kairu0> Elko, i googled for ubuntuforums w32codecs
[02:43] <Belutz> Elko: you could just do /msg ubotu w32codecs
[02:43] <aCilnv> ceviz .. does prism54 cards work out of the box ? cause my USB netgear was not supported :(
[02:43] <cevizoglu> aCilnv, not all netgear cards use prism chipsets
[02:43] <jamey3> How do I empty the DNS cache in Ubuntu?
[02:44] <Elko> Belutz: I think he's busy, he doesn't respond ;)
[02:44] <Elko> kairu0: thanks for that
[02:44] <Belutz> !tell Elko about w32codecs
[02:44] <cevizoglu> aCilnv, the cards on there had roughly a 90% success rate, which means they worked out of the box
[02:44] <Vixus> the python-xmms package doesn't work!
[02:44] <aCilnv> tx ceviz
[02:45] <cevizoglu> aCilnv, I had to specifically ask ebayers for the fcc id to ensure it was indeed a prism card
[02:45] <jamey3> How do I empty the DNS cache in Ubuntu?
[02:45] <cevizoglu> aCilnv, netgear sells cards with the exact same name/type but different chipsets
[02:46] <aCilnv> so i see ceviz ..tx
[02:46] <ppine> someone please a little help on the smb problem ?
[02:46] <jamey3> anyone??
[02:47] <[Wiebel] > your nameserver has dns cache
[02:47] <[Wiebel] > not ubuntu
[02:47] <GoRoDeK> trying to compile enlightenment dr17 and get the following error: "Makefile.am:2: require version 1.5, but have 1.4-p6" automake 1.4 and 1.7 are installed how to switch between them or tell the configure script to use the 1.7 ?
[02:47] <jamey3> [Wiebel] , doesn't Ubuntu have a local cache?
[02:47] <[Wiebel] > no
[02:48] <jamey3> oh right so that's either gonna be my ISP or router
[02:48] <jamey3> atm I'm using my ISP's nameserver
[02:48] <[Wiebel] >  cat /etc/resolv.conf
[02:48] <[Wiebel] > and you'll know
[02:48] <jamey3> yeah i was setting that up just moments ago
[02:48] <jamey3> funny thing is someone else is getting a different IP for some domains
[02:48] <jamey3> but I think it just must mean only certain DNS servers have got the new info
[02:48] <cevizoglu> jamey3, man dig  ?
[02:49] <[Wiebel] > that's a good bet
[02:49] <jamey3> cevizoglu, yeah i was using nslookup but i'll learn dig now
[02:49] <[Wiebel] > dns changes can take op to 48 hours.
[02:49] <ppine> kvirc = 82 mb ??? jezus :)
[02:49] <jamey3> [Wiebel] , yeah that disclaimer is the bane of my existence lol
[02:49] <ppine> thats just crazy :)
[02:49] <kairu0> lol
[02:50] <jamey3> haha
[02:50] <[Wiebel] > ppine: that's insane :)
[02:50] <[Wiebel] > woops
[02:50] <[Wiebel] > excuse me :>
[02:50] <cevizoglu> ppine, don't forget the dependencies
[02:51] <cevizoglu> ppine, they prob take up the majority of that amount
[02:51] <ppine> Well i dont think i will install a client like that, to bloated....
[02:51] <oggah> Im trying to install Opera-browser with this guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser . Ive downloaded the .deb and with the command 'sudo dpkg -i <filename>' it returns some error. says packet "ibqt3c102-mt" is not installed. What is this packet, how do I install it?
[02:51] <[Wiebel] > ppine try irssi
[02:51] <Orunitia> oggah: try going into synaptic and doing fix packages
[02:52] <ppine> [Wiebel] : yup i did try only thing i dont like about irssi is that it doesnt show /whois info or private messages ,,,, at least i dont know where it shows ..
[02:52] <dutch> oggah:  I ran into that problem the other day trying to install a ham radio program...I think you're using breezy, correct ?
[02:52] <oggah> Orunitia, dont think I can run synaptic package manger, Im running a custom ubuntu install with xfce4.
[02:53] <oggah> dutch, nopes. im running hoary.
[02:53] <vinboy> hi
[02:53] <oggah> but ive made apt-get install update & apt-get install upgrade sometimes. this doesnt update to breezy though?
[02:53] <vinboy> is there any way to sort the window on the gnome-panel?
[02:53] <dutch> that's odd...I had it running breezy and when I dropped back to hoary, it was okay..
[02:53] <dutch> oggah: do a google, and see where it leads you
[02:54] <Elko> ppine: what's wrong with the smb playing media?
[02:54] <ppine> Elko: it doenst play, it does load but then nothing happens
[02:54] <joe-van-der-scal> hello
[02:54] <Elko> does it play locally?
[02:55] <joe-van-der-scal> who is frenc chat please?
[02:55] <neotrophy_> What's a colony CD?
[02:55] <ppine> Elko: and it cannot browse the smb share in an open dialog, i can only drag from an open window in nautilus
[02:55] <cevizoglu> joe-van-der-scal, #ubuntu-fr
[02:55] <ppine> Elko: yup when i copy to local it does work
[02:55] <[Wiebel] > ppine: it does
[02:55] <Elko> ppine: ok, so nothing wrong with the player
[02:55] <[Wiebel] > ppine: look in window 1
[02:55] <joe-van-der-scal> you are turc?
[02:55] <[Wiebel] > or
[02:55] <[Wiebel] >  /set use_status_window off
[02:55] <joe-van-der-scal> cevizoglu turkmusun?
[02:55] <Elko> ppine: what if you open an xterm, cd to the smb mounted dir and then play it?
[02:55] <cevizoglu> joe-van-der-scal, yok
[02:56] <ppine> [Wiebel] : how do i look in the windows l ?
[02:56] <[Wiebel] >  ppine try alt-1
[02:56] <[Wiebel] > or esc 1
[02:56] <joe-van-der-scal> hadi yapma
[02:56] <ppine> Elko: it isnt mounted in /mnt   it does show on the desktop ... but only on the desktop.. not in the folder /desktop using nautilus ... im mconfused man ..
[02:57] <emile> joe-van-der-scal:english please
[02:57] <ppine> [Wiebel] : thx, try it in a while
[02:57] <joe-van-der-scal> #ubuntu-fr
[02:57] <ppine> [Wiebel] : on xchat now
[02:57] <Elko> ppine: smbmount the share first, then all playback should work (works for me that way at least)
[02:58] <ppine> Elko: how do i smbmount ?
[02:58] <Elko> mom
[02:58] <jamey3> I've enabled the universe repositories in sources.list, but how do I add the multiverse ones... and do you recommend I do?
[02:58] <cevizoglu> joe-van-der-scal, I don't speak very good turkish
[02:58] <ppine> " 2nd day user "
[02:59] <Seveas> ppine, maybe http://ubuntulinux.nl/files/addsamba can help you :)
[02:59] <Seveas> !tell jamey3 about sources
[02:59] <joe-van-der-scal> i don't speack very goog inglish
[02:59] <ppine> Seveas: Thanks ill read it.
[02:59] <pont> ppine, first check if its mounted using 'du' or somthing
[02:59] <Seveas> ppine, it's a script :)
[02:59] <cevizoglu> joe-van-der-scal, ubuntu-fr has 86 people  :)
[02:59] <Seveas> joe-van-der-scal, /join #ubuntu-fr
[03:00] <pont> ppine, and sudo mount -t smbfs //server/share /mountpoint
[03:00] <ppine> Seveas: from what i see now, isnt that just what Places > Connect to server should do ?/
[03:01] <ppine> pont: */share is that needed ? i have nummerous folders shared,
[03:01] <Seveas> ppine, yes, but on filesystem level instead of gnome-vfs level
[03:01] <Seveas> which means all programs can use it
[03:01] <dooglus> pont: I think you'll need to install "smbfs" first to do that, don't you?
[03:01] <Elko> ppine: this is what I use: smbmount '\\server\share' /mnt/mountpoint -o "username=user,password=xxxxx,workgroup=workgroup,fmask=644,dmask=755,rw"
[03:01] <pont> ppine, only one at at time
[03:01] <joe-van-der-scal> I am it low
[03:01] <Elko> eww, looks ugly
[03:01] <pont> dooglus, never done it in ubuntu
[03:01] <jamey3> Seveas, thanks :)
[03:02] <pont>  from what i know if you have smbclient
[03:02] <pont> you can mount using -t smbfs
[03:02] <dooglus> I use: sudo mount -t smbfs -o password=,uid=chris //server/dokumenty ~/smb/server/dokumenty
[03:02] <obontu> hey
[03:02] <obontu> i'm new to ubuntu and like it very much so far
[03:02] <obontu> how do i stop the window animations?
[03:03] <kemik> window animations?
[03:03] <Elko> -o "credentials=/path/to/credentials.share" is nice to stick those options away :)
[03:03] <oggah> Ive solved the problem with installation of Opera-browser. Had to to the ' apt-get -f install ' It did install some unknown packages :)
[03:03] <obontu> yeah the gnome ones
[03:03] <obontu> like when you maximize and minimize a window
[03:03] <obontu> there's an animation of it
[03:04] <pont> it will be a metacity setting.. one sec
[03:04] <ppine> bash: smbmount: command not found
[03:04] <dooglus> pont, I don't think that's true.  If I have smbclient but don't have smbfs, I see "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //server/dokumenty," when I try to mount -t smbfs
[03:04] <Elko> ppine: apt-get install smb-fs
[03:05] <cevizoglu> Elko, I thought it was smbfs
[03:05] <Elko> right
[03:05] <charlesbc> I wonder, do the divx and quicktime codecs from gstreamer also work under Ubuntu Linux for AMD64?
[03:05] <ppine> Elko: i dont understand how it could connect using places without having the smb package installed anyway ...    ill install now
[03:05] <pont> dooglus, interesting
[03:06] <cevizoglu> ppine, because it would use ftp or ssh, etc. instead
[03:06] <dooglus> pont: I can browse the SMB shares using nautilus without having smbfs installed
[03:06] <Elko> ppine: maybe nautilus has some for of baked in smbclient
[03:06] <Elko> form, gd my typing today
[03:06] <mjr> charlesbc, gstreamer codecs work, win32codecs don't (without extra work)
[03:06] <dooglus> it's called 'smbfs'
[03:06] <dooglus> not 'smb-fs'
[03:06] <pont> obontu, go into Applications > Configuration Editor  then App > Metacitythen then genral then click reduced resources
[03:07] <kemik> you need smbfs in order to mount smbshare
[03:07] <kemik> s
[03:07] <pont> dooglus, yea i think the gnome one use gnome vfs insted of mounting
[03:07] <dooglus> pont: ok.
[03:07] <pont> theres also a proggy called smbmount..
[03:07] <dooglus> pont: note that 'smbfs' doesn't come with ubuntu at all
[03:07] <ppine> Elko: clear... only the smb-fs package isnt found :s
[03:07] <charlesbc> mjr: I installed gstreamer which includes codecs from win32. I don't know if those codecs still fall under the win32codecs
[03:07] <obontu> do i have to save it?
[03:07] <obontu> or just close the window?
[03:07] <dooglus> ppine: "smbfs"
[03:07] <LuVUnTu> need help ... how can i get pon dsl-provider on every boot up?
[03:07] <pont> dooglus, oh ok
[03:07] <obontu> thanx it worked!
[03:08] <Elko> ppine: smbfs, stop blaming me on my typo ;p
[03:08] <pont> obontu, nah
[03:08] <ppine> Haha, this works, thanks
[03:08] <obontu> another question, what do i do with debian files? deb extension
[03:08] <dooglus> obontu: "sudo dpkg -i file.deb"
[03:08] <obontu> i d/led such file who has fonts and i don't know what to do with it
[03:08] <jatos> hi
[03:08] <obontu> thanx
[03:08] <ppine> could have run a apt-cache search smb before nagging anyway ;)
[03:08] <chrishz> Hi guys, I want to try Ubuntu. I downloaded the new 5.10 preview release, is it a good idea to install this one, or should I go with 5.04?
[03:09] <jatos> I need some help with sharing files between two linux machines
[03:09] <dooglus> ppine: apt-file search is nice - it lets you search for files you didn't download yet
[03:09] <Elko> ppine: what can I say, it's sunday, it was late yesterday, very late ;p
[03:10] <jatos> and I don't want access to be based on which machine is connecting, I wanted it to be on basis of the person logging into the remote machine
[03:10] <LuVUnTu> could anyone help me figure out a way to get pon dsl-provider on my bootup?
[03:10] <pont> chrishz, hows it going ?
[03:10] <dooglus> LuVUnTu: you want to run a script when you boot?
[03:10] <chrishz> pont: fine thank you :)
[03:10] <cevizoglu> jatos, sounds like basic unix permissions
[03:10] <dooglus> LuVUnTu: put it at the end of /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[03:10] <pont> chrishz, Its a pritty nice dist
[03:10] <LuVUnTu> nah ... just want wut pppoeconf says it would do
[03:11] <jatos> I doubt it
[03:11] <chrishz> pont: would you recommend me installing 5.10, or 5.04? I was wondering if 5.10 included any "unstable" packages
[03:11] <LuVUnTu> lemme try that ... thanx dooglus
[03:11] <jatos> heres how I intend to connect remote machine < proxy < me
[03:11] <cevizoglu> jatos, read a basic unix file permissions 101 doc
[03:11] <chrishz> i guess I'll just go with 5.10 though, it seems mature enough
[03:11] <jatos> links?
[03:12] <cevizoglu> jatos, ask google with the words I just posted
[03:12] <cevizoglu> "basic unix file permissions intro"
[03:12] <xophEr> My Marvell 88E88053 onboard NIC doesnt work with the ubuntu stock kernels at all. I had to compile the syskonnect driver into the kernel myself.  Are you going to fix this or are you even aware of this problem? Thanks.
[03:12] <pont> chrishz, While 5.10 is a preview i havent run into really any large bugs
[03:12] <pont> Although the 64bit compile wouldn
[03:12] <chrishz> pont: thanks, that reaffirms what I thought :)
[03:12] <pont> 't run on my duel operons
[03:13] <chrishz> ahhh, right
[03:13] <obontu> i had no luck with that deb package
[03:13] <obontu> :(
[03:13] <dooglus> obontu: what up?
[03:13] <cevizoglu> jatos, namely, chmod and chown etc.
[03:13] <obontu> i dunno
[03:13] <obontu> it won't work
[03:13] <chrishz> pont: that won't be a problem here :)
[03:13] <HaNazir> hey guys. i desperately need a console e-mail solution for pop mail such as gmail. any ideas? i've been recommened mutt and fetchmail.
[03:13] <jatos> by way, would the basic unix permissions stop root from one machine getting root access to file shares on another machine without the root password for the remote machine
[03:13] <pont> cool
[03:13] <ppine> Ok that was dumb, pulled the power connect from my laptop on accident " battery is broken "
[03:13] <Seveas> HaNazir, mutt is good
[03:13] <obontu> i'm new to ubuntu and i'm a bit confused cuz of the dir structre
[03:14] <obontu> well, that command didn't do a thing
[03:14] <Tomcat_> obontu: Ask what you need to know. :)
[03:14] <LuVUnTu> dooglus, egad ... i know it's before the exit but all them ifs and fs got me confused could ya gimme a hand?
[03:14] <cevizoglu> jatos, root password will not give access to the other machine unless they share the root passwd
[03:14] <obontu> what do i do with a deb?
[03:14] <HaNazir> Seveas, i cant get it to work. i do this start mutt, then press C, then type pops://user@gmail.com/ and it just says connecting forerever
[03:14] <dooglus> LuVUnTu: stick it right at the end if you like
[03:14] <cevizoglu> jatos, or if you physically mount the hard drive from the other pc to your own
[03:14] <Tomcat_> obontu: .deb files are software packages... you can install them if you want.
[03:14] <dooglus> LuVUnTu: that's not really an exit, it's a ": exit", isn't it?
[03:14] <Seveas> HaNazir, pop.gmail.com
[03:14] <obontu> i want to install
[03:14] <obontu> those are fonts
[03:14] <obontu> how do i do it?
[03:14] <LuVUnTu> just the one line? pon dsl-provider???
[03:14] <jatos> and if the root passwords don't match on the machines will I get a cahcne to enter the remote machines p/w?
[03:14] <ZeroA4> obontu, What is the full name of this .deb file ?
[03:15] <Tomcat_> obontu: sudo dpkg -i <file>.deb
[03:15] <obontu> culmus.deb
[03:15] <HaNazir> Seveas, where would that go?
[03:15] <dooglus> LuVUnTu: sure, if that's the line you want to run
[03:15] <LuVUnTu> dooglus, yeah yer right
[03:15] <HaNazir> Seveas, how would the syntax be?
[03:15] <obontu> do i need to give it the full path?
[03:15] <jatos> bbl
[03:15] <Seveas> pops://user@pop.gmail.com/
[03:15] <dooglus> LuVUnTu:
[03:15] <LuVUnTu> gott try that ... thanks again
[03:15] <HaNazir> Seveas, and then it asks for the password?
[03:15] <dooglus> LuVUnTu: I've no idea why that ": exit" is there.  : doesn't do anything
[03:15] <ppine> Elko: Could not resolve mount point /mnt/mountpoint
[03:15] <Seveas> HaNazir, it should
[03:15] <ZeroA4> obontu, just the name-bla-bla.deb
[03:15] <Seveas> ppine, mkdir /mnt/mountpoint
[03:16] <obontu> well it asks for a password
[03:16] <obontu> but it says it can;t find it
[03:16] <obontu> it's right there on my desktop
[03:16] <shinu> why does /etc/init.d/hpoj setup not see my printer while it does appear on lsusb?
[03:16] <dooglus> obontu: cd to ~/Desktop first
[03:16] <LuVUnTu> dooglus, prolly just a post sign for us dummies
[03:16] <dooglus> obontu: and the password it wants is yours
[03:16] <obontu> i know
[03:16] <obontu> i know the password
[03:16] <HaNazir> Seveas, now will it always use this account?
[03:16] <Seveas> HaNazir, I don't know mutt well enough to be able to answer that :)
[03:17] <HaNazir> Seveas, ok thanx:)
[03:17] <obontu> how do i cd to desktop? when i type "ls" it shows me "Desktop" in blue
[03:17] <obontu> i mean written in blue
[03:17] <HaNazir> Seveas, u helped a ton man. been all day on this. do u know if i can have a background for console when i'm not running x?
[03:17] <Seveas> obontu, cd ~/Desktop
[03:18] <Seveas> HaNazir, only a different color
[03:18] <dooglus> obontu: if you're already home, just "cd Desktop"
[03:18] <Elko> ppine: mkdir -p /mnt/mountpoint - what I pasted was just an example, fill-in the appropriate values yourself
[03:18] <obontu> thanx !
[03:18] <HaNazir> Seveas, how?
[03:18] <obontu> it worked
[03:18] <obontu> and it opened it
[03:18] <dooglus> (blue means it's a directory)
[03:18] <Seveas> HaNazir, man echo :)
[03:18] <obontu> if those were fonts, they should appear in my fonts, right?
[03:18] <ppine> Elko: dig that... done that , now it says no such share found "video" for example... it really is there.
[03:18] <Elko> Seveas: not the GNU echo ;p
[03:19] <dooglus> obontu: there's a command you can run to list what files it contains.  just a sec.
[03:19] <obontu> ok thanx
[03:19] <dooglus> dpkg -c file.deb
[03:19] <Malin> !tell Malin about grub
[03:19] <Elko> ppine: does smbclient -L server show anything?
[03:19] <HaNazir> Seveas, last q, how do i check for new msgs in mutt?
[03:19] <Seveas> HaNazir, I don't know mutt well enough to be able to answer that :)
[03:19] <Seveas> HaNazir, I never really used mutt myself...
[03:20] <HaNazir> Seveas, and yet u helped me more than others. ok thanx man. :)
[03:20] <Elko> HaNazir: mutt does that for itself after you fetchmailed
[03:20] <HaNazir> Elko, i dont use fetchmail
[03:20] <ppine> Elko: yup askes for password, when i give password of that server it says nt login faillure
[03:21] <Elko> HaNazir: just c ENTER to go to the next folder with new mail
[03:21] <Elko> ppine: play around with the workgroup= thing
[03:21] <LuVUnTu> dooglus, that werk ... great coach.
[03:21] <ppine> Elko: should be 187 ...
[03:21] <Leshrac> I have followed the wiki tuto on how to get sound working on hoary, and it still does not work. any thoughts?
[03:22] <DewDude> \
[03:22] <DewDude>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   0] 
[03:23] <Toma-> nic paste
[03:23] <Toma-> *e
[03:23] <dooglus> LuVUnTu: thanks
[03:23] <xophEr> Have you guys noticed the type-o in the 'Add Applications' app ? When you try to remove something but you cant it says: Can not remove blabla, instead it should be 'Cannot' :)
[03:23] <LuVUnTu> :) ... me thank u
[03:24] <LuVUnTu> dooglus,
[03:24] <cevizoglu> xophEr, file a bug
[03:24] <ppine> Elko: how could it be refusing to logon after i give the correct password while approaching at ip level instead of servername...
[03:24] <HaNazir> what app is there like gaim but only for console?
[03:24] <xophEr> cevizoglu, Im too lazy :)
[03:24] <cevizoglu> xophEr, you said that last week
[03:24] <ppine> ok i did a whois in irssi where can i read it out ?
[03:24] <DewDude> 300000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
[03:24] <DewDude> 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
[03:24] <DewDude> 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
[03:24] <DewDude> 03
[03:24] <ppine> DudE!!
[03:24] <Toma-> l33t
[03:24] <Elko> ppine: nah, just tried that here with the same smbclient command
[03:25] <dooglus> ppine: in the server window.  press alt-1.
[03:25] <dooglus> ppine: use control-n and control-p to change windows, too
[03:25] <ppine> server window ? i only have one windows.
[03:25] <ppine> Elko: Thanks (Y) (Y)
[03:25] <dooglus> ppine: try control-n over and over to cycle windows
[03:26] <Elko> ppine: but can you now mount it with the correct options? ;)
[03:26] <Elko> dooglus: alt-left/right also works
[03:26] <ppine> Elko: Nope hij blijft dan melding geven dat hij de share niet vinden kan
[03:26] <dooglus> Elko: not for me it doesn't
[03:26] <Seveas> ppine, english works better in here :)
[03:27] <dooglus_> not locally, and not remotely either
[03:27] <ppine> Seveas: prolly right, but i figured since Elko is dutch ;)
[03:27] <roberto> italian?
[03:27] <Elko> heh
[03:27] <Seveas> ppine, #ubuntu-nl works for dutch chats :)
[03:27] <ppine> Seveas: ;)
[03:27] <ppine> i'll keep it English
[03:28] <Elko> how many #ubuntu-* chans are there?
[03:28] <Tortel> alot?
[03:28] <ppine> dooglus: gives the share not found error at your place also ?
[03:28] <Tortel> its all on the site, i think
[03:28] <dooglus> ppine: sorry?
[03:28] <LaserLine> How do I make GRUB Boot Windows by default instead of Ubuntu?
[03:28] <Elko> ppine: but the share does show in the smbclient output?
[03:28] <ppine> dooglus: when tryng to mount smbmount
[03:28] <[LethAL] > LaserLine, sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:29] <dooglus> ppine: I never tried smbmount
[03:29] <[LethAL] > LaserLine, Change default probably to 4
[03:29] <Elko> s/nano/emacs -nw/
[03:29] <cevizoglu> !start a text-editor war
[03:29] <ubotu> vim is way better than gEdit!
[03:29] <ppine> dooglus: nv mixin up stuff
[03:29] <LaserLine> [LethAL]  and what from there ?
[03:29] <cevizoglu> oops, time for sleep
[03:29] <Elko> lol
[03:29] <[LethAL] > Change the defaul number
[03:29] <ppine> Elko: Nope, when u use -L its refusing my password
[03:29] <[LethAL] > default*
[03:30] <Elko> ppine: did you do smbpasswd on the server?
[03:30] <LaserLine> [LethAL]  I read about it over there but how do i know what number ? it says 0 is default....
[03:31] <ppine> Elko: Uhhm. the server is a windows machine.
[03:31] <Elko> oh, heh
[03:31] <LaserLine> [LethAL]  and i have the 686 and 386 kernels and Windows XP
[03:31] <[LethAL] > LaserLine, How many ubuntu menu items are there?
[03:31] <ds[de] > where does apt-get put files downloaded with the -d install option?
[03:31] <dooglus> ppine: try taking your firewall down and see if that fixes your smbmount problems
[03:31] <[LethAL] > LaserLine, Probably 5 then
[03:31] <ppine> dooglus: no firewall running,
[03:31] <[LethAL] > LaserLine, so use 6
[03:32] <ppine> dooglus: smb works fine on my xbox to the smb share on the windows machine
[03:32] <Seveas> ds[de] , /var/cache/apt/archives
[03:32] <LaserLine> [LethAL]  Ohh, i thought theer is a number value next to each OS....
[03:32] <[LethAL] > LaserLine, Since "Other Operating systems" doesn't boot, a mistake I've made too many times
[03:32] <deFrysk>  /var/cache/apt/archives/
[03:32] <Elko> ppine: sry I don't have another hint, but my experience is, if you play around with smbclient to get the list of shares, you can use that to mount it with smbmount
[03:32] <dooglus> ppine: what does "sudo iptables -L | wc -l" tell you?
[03:32] <ds[de] > Seveas: thanks
[03:32] <dooglus> ppine: oh, I'm mixing stuff up as well then.  what's the smbmount problem?
[03:33] <LaserLine> [LethAL]  I found an Howto that says to change it to "X_sequence' What does that mean ?
[03:33] <[LethAL] > LaserLine, That doesn't make any sense, it should only be 'saved' or a number
[03:33] <ppine> dooglus: it wont mount    gives an error share not found
[03:33] <LaserLine> [LethAL]  What's 'saved' ?
[03:34] <[LethAL] > LaserLine, It uses the boot menu item which is saved with the 'savedefault' command
[03:34] <jamey3> How can I stop my DHCP from automatically changing my /etc/resolv.conf on every boot up? The router's built-in DNS is rubbish, I like to use my ISP's.
[03:34] <[LethAL] > LaserLine, And your Windows item probably doesn' have one
[03:34] <daan> Hey people. I'm completly new to linux and i was hoping someone could guide me through installing a certain program. So. are there any volunteers? :)
[03:35] <jamey3> daan, yeah go on
[03:35] <malv> is it possible to downgrade from breezy back to hoary?
[03:35] <ppine> weird, how can this be so difficult....
[03:35] <Seveas> malv, no
[03:35] <LaserLine> [LethAL]  Ohh ok, so I should go to the grub file, and count how many kernels i have until I see windows XP, should i start from 0 or 1 ?
[03:35] <[LethAL] > jamey3, Don't use DHCP ;)
[03:35] <[LethAL] > LaserLine, Well 0, but remember Other operating systems is an item
[03:35] <jamey3> [LethAL] , router is queer... it blocks all traffic from non-DHCP IPs. It's not mine to "fiddle with", so I have to do DHCP.
[03:35] <jamey3> daan, what are you trying to install?
[03:36] <bigfoot1> I'm using Xchat. Is there a way for the "/msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>" to automatically happen everytime I open Xchat?
[03:36] <LaserLine> [LethAL]  And the MemTest is an item too?
[03:36] <daan> jamey3. i opened a chat session with you
[03:36] <[LethAL] > LaserLine, yes
[03:36] <jamey3> bigfoot1, yes in the Server List
[03:36] <dooglus_> jamey3: you need to stop /etc/init.d/resolvconf running
[03:36] <jamey3> daan, okay
[03:36] <test34> bigfoot1, in server list, click edit server
[03:36] <dooglus_> jamey3: I use sysv-rc-conf for that
[03:36] <ppine> 7644: tree connect failed: ERRDOS - ERRnosuchshare (You specified an invalid share name)
[03:36] <ppine> SMB connection failed
[03:36] <jamey3> dooglus, ah ok i'll look into it
[03:36] <bigfoot1> test34, then what?
[03:37] <LaserLine> [LethAL]  great
[03:37] <test34> bigfoot1, then enter your password in the nickserv edit box
[03:37] <_roberto> help!
[03:37] <_roberto> non riesco a registrarmi
[03:37] <bigfoot1> test34, thanks.
[03:37] <dooglus> jamey3: so "apt-get install sysv-rc-conf && sudo sysv-rc-conf" and uncheck the resolvconf entries
[03:37] <bigfoot1> Um, I used to be "bigfoot." how do i claim that?
[03:37] <jamey3> dooglus, great thanks... is that sys.. package for modifiying services in general as well?
[03:38] <[LethAL] > LaserLine, If you use ext2 or ext3, you should get the ext2 IFS driver for windows. It lets you rw ext2/3 drives, but Ubuntu does an fsck each boot
[03:38] <LaserLine> Is there a script that Automaticaly adds all my NTFS Partitions to the FSTAB ? or how do i do it manuelly ?
[03:38] <[LethAL] > but makes*
[03:38] <dooglus> jamey3: yes, it edits the lists of which stuff runs at which runlevels
[03:38] <jamey3> dooglus, ah cool many thanks :)
[03:38] <dooglus> jamey3: it's a terminal-based program, not graphical, but it works ok
[03:38] <LaserLine> [LethAL]  I use ReiserFS, I don't trust EXT3 anymore..... (long long story)
[03:38] <[LethAL] > LaserLine, apt-get install autofs
[03:39] <jamey3> dooglus, okay cool. is there a "nice" gui app for the same purpose, just out of interest?
[03:39] <LaserLine> [LethAL]  it's in the ubuntu repo's ?
[03:39] <eruin> anyone having trouble compiling ipod-sharp from svn?
[03:39] <dooglus> LaserLine: I said that about a week ago and was told I didn't know what I was talking about, and that ext3 was much safer.
[03:39] <[LethAL] > LaserLine, Yes, but you might have to enable some others
[03:40] <LaserLine> [LethAL]  It's wierd... I can't install ubuntu on my desktop....
[03:40] <jamey3> dooglus, I can't find resolveconf in the list :S
[03:40] <xophEr> If I want to file a bug about the kernel where do I file it?
[03:40] <[LethAL] > LaserLine, Howcome?
[03:40] <Shaoqi> hi. how can i install an internet connection on ubuntu?
[03:40] <Seveas> xophEr, what's the bug?
[03:40] <[LethAL] > Shaoqi, what type?
[03:40] <Seveas> Shaoqi, ehrm...?
[03:40] <LaserLine> [LethAL]  it get's stuck on the 86% [Detecting hardware to find cd-rom drives] 
[03:40] <LaserLine> Loading module 'ide-cd' for 'Linux ATaPI CD-ROM
[03:41] <xophEr> Seveas, my NIC isnt recognized / doesnt work with it. (Marvell 88E8053)
[03:41] <dooglus> jamey3: I don't know of any.
[03:41] <Seveas> xophEr, is that wifi?
[03:41] <xophEr> Seveas, no
[03:41] <[LethAL] > LaserLine, did you check the CD?
[03:41] <jamey3> dooglus, didn't you say i need to disable "resolvconf" so it stops replacing my /etc/resolv.conf file?
[03:41] <Shaoqi> I'm on a cable connection. it requires no login process. but when i plug into my dlink adapter, no internet connection is created.
[03:41] <dooglus> xophEr: you can file it at https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/
[03:41] <LaserLine> [LethAL]  I'll take a new one
[03:41] <xophEr> an integrated gigabit ethernet controller
[03:41] <Seveas> marvell in my experience soes not support linux
[03:41] <Seveas> so it's a bug at marvell, not a linux bug
[03:41] <mirak> hi
[03:41] <dooglus> jamey3: that's what I said, but I was probably wrong, sorry.
[03:41] <[LethAL] > Hello Micksa
[03:42] <mirak> there is no KDE 3.5 in kubuntu ?
[03:42] <[LethAL] > mirak*
[03:42] <LaserLine> [LethAL]  I had the same problem with the Breezy preview...
[03:42] <mirak> breezy
[03:42] <yao_> hi
[03:42] <Seveas> mirak, 3.5 isn't even out yet...
[03:42] <xophEr> Seveas, well theres drivers for it..
[03:42] <jamey3> dooglus, np... but this tool seems cool (*is very careful*)
[03:42] <mirak> Seveas, a beta
[03:42] <daan> jamey3, can you hear me in the private chat?
[03:42] <Seveas> xophEr, really, hmm, what are they called?
[03:42] <xophEr> skge and sk98lin
[03:42] <[LethAL] > LaserLine, Odd... Do you have more than one CD Drive?
[03:42] <jamey3> daan, no sorry :S
[03:42] <Seveas> mirak, *beta* things don't go in a *stable* distro
[03:42] <xophEr> skge is the newer one I think
[03:43] <LaserLine> [LethAL]  yes and i changed both... (one dvd and other dvd burner - both new
[03:43] <Seveas> xophEr, modprobe skge
[03:43] <Seveas> does that help?
[03:43] <xophEr> both are included in the ubuntu kernel, but none of them works.. dont know why.
[03:43] <xophEr> Seveas, nope
[03:43] <Seveas> ah
[03:43] <[LethAL] > LaserLine, try installing from a CD Drive instad... may help
[03:43] <mirak> Seveas, breezy is stable ?
[03:43] <Seveas> hmm, ok, bugzilla.ubuntu.com it is then
[03:43] <Shaoqi> I'm on a cable connection. it requires no login process. but when i plug into my dlink adapter, no internet connection is created. how can i solve this? thanks.
[03:43] <[LethAL] > LaserLine, Or you could floppy and network install, if you have a supported card
[03:43] <Seveas> mirak, it will be stable long before 3.5 is released
[03:43] <xophEr> allright.. what package is it?
[03:43] <daan> arr jamey3, i don't know what im doing wrong. i type there but you don't see it
[03:43] <ppine> OK It mounted !!
[03:43] <xophEr> couldnt find linux-image :)
[03:43] <Seveas> and breezy has been in upstreamversionfreeze for a while now
[03:44] <ppine> Elko: Thanks
[03:44] <Seveas> xophEr, just 'linux'
[03:44] <LaserLine> [LethAL]  now i get the following error after pressing enter for default installation 'ohci_hcd 0000:00:02.1 Unlike after no-IRQ? Diffrent ACPI or APIC settings may help'
[03:44] <xophEr> ok
[03:44] <xophEr> thanks
[03:44] <mirak> Seveas, http://www.kubuntu.org/  in fact it seems there is binaries i386 already, however I am on ppc
[03:44] <LaserLine> [LethAL]  Its a A7N8X Deluxe revision 1.04 mother board (nforce2) latest BIOS 1008, Athlon XP 2700+
[03:44] <jamey3> daan, look along the bottom for a tab called "jamey3" click on it
[03:44] <[LethAL] > LaserLine, Press F1 before you press enter, one of the pages may shed some light on it
[03:45] <Seveas> mirak, kubunt.org provides unofficial, unsupported backports, ask in #kubuntu for details
[03:45] <LaserLine> [LethAL]  what's the APIC thing ?
[03:45] <mirak> Seveas, thanks
[03:45] <daan> jamey3, i clicked on it and i see your messages. but when i type there you can't seem to read it
[03:45] <ppine> And playing mmedia from over the network also works now !!! great man
[03:45] <[LethAL] > LaserLine, I haven't heard of APIC myself :S
[03:45] <LaserLine> [LethAL]  i'll disable it in the bios
[03:45] <LaserLine> [LethAL]  booting again
[03:45] <ppine> the mount i gave, is it system default now ?
[03:46] <LaserLine> [LethAL]  i'm now online from an old laptop running hoary
[03:46] <[LethAL] > LaserLine, Good Idea, and try disabling the pnp os option if you have on
[03:46] <LaserLine> [LethAL]  installatin was painless...
[03:46] <[LethAL] > LaserLine, So was mine, I did it from the ISO itself, much faster
[03:46] <LaserLine> [LethAL]  i don't have pnp in bios
[03:47] <Mr-Falkor> oh lord
[03:47] <LaserLine> [LethAL]  it passed !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:47] <Mr-Falkor> my distro is gonna dia after this reboot
[03:47] <LaserLine> [LethAL]  disabled APIC !!!
[03:47] <Mr-Falkor> die
[03:47] <[LethAL] > LaserLine, w00t :D
[03:47] <daan> jamey3, it gives a connection time out
[03:47] <LaserLine> [LethAL]  What does ubuntu work better with, 3com lan or nVidia lan ?
[03:48] <[LethAL] > LaserLine, I don't know much about wired LAN, but I did see a lot of 3com options in the choose network modules
[03:48] <ppine> is it possible to connect to irc.freenode.net using ssl/tls ?
[03:48] <Mr-Falkor> http://pastebin.com/373686 <--Thats my problem=((
[03:48] <Mr-Falkor> well well
[03:48] <Mr-Falkor> Argh
[03:49] <[LethAL] > Mr-Falkor, I'll take a look
[03:49] <Mr-Falkor> [LethAL] , thank you
[03:49] <Mr-Falkor> I cant let my distro die
[03:49] <pinucset> somebody nows if breezy will have graphic installer? :( my friends need this... :(
[03:49] <Mr-Falkor> [LethAL] , Im gonna try to dist-upgrade to brezzy
[03:49] <[LethAL] > pinucset, It's not like they have to do much anyway
[03:49] <Elko> pinucset: nice friends you have..
[03:49] <LaserLine> [LethAL]  That's wierd.... I have 20GB of unpartitioned space on the HD and the installation doesn't find it....
[03:50] <pinucset> if they have only used windows... ?
[03:50] <[LethAL] > LaserLine, Using any special drive?
[03:50] <LaserLine> [LethAL]  I deleted the partition using windows managment and then wiped it using acronis...
[03:50] <LaserLine> [LethAL]  Maxtor 80GB IDE UltraATA133
[03:50] <[LethAL] > LaserLine, does guided partitioning not work?
[03:50] <LaserLine> [LethAL]  Standard drive....
[03:51] <ppine> what does the mountpoint -o measn anyway ? isnt it possible to have it mounted /mnt/smb/"server"
[03:51] <[LethAL] > LaserLine, Try making a partition elsewhere
[03:51] <LaserLine> [LethAL]  nope, only option is to erase the drive...
[03:51] <Hendric> hi.. i created ICONS on my desktop.. how can i make it only executable by all users but undeletable  by them?? im using ubuntu...
[03:51] <[LethAL] > LaserLine, i.e. outside the installer
[03:51] <LaserLine> [LethAL]  what do you mean 'elsewere'?
[03:51] <Gobbla> well, i think that ubuntu should make a graphic installer
[03:51] <dooglus> ppine: -o is for mount options, isn't it?
[03:51] <[LethAL] > LaserLine, ^^
[03:51] <Elko> ppine: -o "..." passes options to smbmount
[03:51] <LaserLine> [LethAL]  How ?
[03:51] <Gobbla> the lack of that that might scare people of
[03:51] <[LethAL] > LaserLine, Knoppix/Gnoppix/Ubuntu Live?
[03:52] <ppine> Elko: u didnt get a private msg ? i hope :D
[03:52] <Seveas> Gobbla, there will be one for Dapper
[03:52] <LaserLine> I could make an ReiserFS partinion using acronis....
[03:52] <lin45> fuckers
[03:52] <[LethAL] > LaserLine, do it then ;)
[03:52] <Seveas> short visit :)
[03:52] <Tortel> yea
[03:52] <Tortel> baN!
[03:53] <Tortel> :D
[03:53] <ppine> all this is new to me .... -o point=folder/folder
[03:53] <ppine> somthing like that ?
[03:53] <Mr-Falkor> [LethAL] , did you look at the thing ?
[03:53] <Hendric> i created ICONS on my desktop.. how can i make it only executable by all users but undeletable  by them?? im using ubuntu...
[03:53] <Tortel> right click, goto properties, and look around
[03:53] <[LethAL] > Mr-Falkor, Yes, but I have no idea what is wrong, I'm using the 1.0.7 on Breezy and that's fine
[03:53] <Seveas> Hendric, chmod a+x,a-w /path/to/file
[03:54] <Mr-Falkor> damn =(
[03:54] <Mr-Falkor> I cant let my distro die =(
[03:54] <Tortel> permissions to be exact
[03:54] <Hfuy> What's the next version of Ubuntu going to be called?
[03:54] <Seveas> Mr-Falkor, 'sup?
[03:54] <Hfuy> Crispy Crocodile?
[03:54] <ppine> when i mount another share folder, it closes the one i mounted before ....
[03:54] <[LethAL] > Mr-Falkor, try Galeon or Epiphany instead
[03:54] <Hfuy> Mellifluous Monkey?
[03:54] <Hendric> i tried it...
[03:54] <dooglus> what are the default breezy kernel options for my lilo.conf?
[03:54] <Hfuy> Extinct Tiger? (Sorry, doesn't quite work, but it's topical)
[03:54] <Hendric> i change it to owner root.. and set permission to 644...
[03:54] <Mr-Falkor> Seveas, http://pastebin.com/373686 =(
[03:54] <ppine> isnt it possible to mount the root of the server so al shared folder are mounted at once ???
[03:54] <dooglus> Hfuy: "dapper drake"
[03:54] <Hendric> but still a normal user login can delete it
[03:54] <engie> Hi. When doing disk intensive operations (indexing a big mp3 archive etc) on breezy, I notice gam_server is using up loads of CPU and it's slowing my system down to an annoying extent. What's this process doing, and do I need it?
[03:54] <Hfuy> dooglus: Great. Why?
[03:55] <jcspray> Hello.  Upgrading hoary->breezy I've broken X.  I'm getting "could not open default font 'fixed'".  I have ubuntu-desktop installed.
[03:55] <dooglus> Hfuy: read the press release
[03:55] <Seveas> Mr-Falkor, ah ok
[03:55] <eruin> &#& banshee
[03:55] <Seveas> Mr-Falkor, sudo dpkg --configure --pending
[03:55] <dooglus> Hfuy: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=350378#post350378
[03:55] <HaNazir> is there a gtk-gnutella equivalent for console?
[03:55] <Flash13> Is there a trick to getting cdrecord -scanbus to work?
[03:56] <Hendric> Seveas: i changed the file permission to 644.. i even changed the owner to root.. but still a normal user can delete it.. why is that?
[03:56] <Seveas> Mr-Falkor, sudo dpkg -P firefox firefox-gnome-support mozilla-firefox mozilla-firefox-gnome-support
[03:56] <LaserLine> [LethAL]  how can i make a partition from the livecd ?
[03:56] <Seveas> Mr-Falkor, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:56] <jcspray> A mailing list thread said to create a missing symlink in xfonts-base, which I tried but has had no effect.
[03:56] <Seveas> Mr-Falkor, ah wait, first disable backports...
[03:56] <[LethAL] > LaserLine, With [QT/G] parted
[03:56] <Seveas> Mr-Falkor, then dist-upgrade
[03:56] <LuVUnTu> re dooglus sumptin fer u to think about ... how can i put terminal back on the right-click context menu?
[03:56] <Seveas> and then sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[03:56] <Seveas> LuVUnTu, apt-get install nautilus-open-terminal
[03:57] <memin> How can I install freetype and fontconfig?
[03:57] <Mr-Falkor> Seveas, How can i disable the backports ? hehe
[03:57] <dooglus> Hendric: whether a file is 'deletable' or not is a property of the directory it's in.
[03:57] <LaserLine> [LethAL]  you mean install it for the livecd ?
[03:57] <Seveas> Mr-Falkor, put your sources.list on the pastebin
[03:57] <mirak> how do I get the exact sources matching a linux-image ?
[03:57] <LuVUnTu> yay ... didn't imagine is wus dat simple. thanks seve
[03:57] <LuVUnTu> Seveas,
[03:57] <[LethAL] > LaserLine, I thought [QT/G] parted wrer on there... try parted maybe?
[03:58] <Seveas> mirak, apt-get install linux-source-2.6.10 (hoary) linux-2.6.12 (breezy)
[03:58] <Mr-Falkor> http://pastebin.com/373691
[03:58] <Mr-Falkor> there you go
[03:58] <NiLz> hi, so can any1 tell me how to get an address bar to nautilus?
[03:58] <NiLz> it's annoying to press ctrl+l all the time
[03:58] <Seveas> Mr-Falkor, they're disabled already -- good
[03:58] <LaserLine> [LethAL]  ok, the failed installation screwed up my windows..... (wanted to reformat today) after i install ubuntu and see how everything goes..... i guess that won't happen :-)
[03:58] <Mr-Falkor> ok =)
[03:58] <Seveas> now continue with my instructions :)
[03:59] <mirak> Seveas, but how can I be sure it will match the linux-image-2.6.12-9 ?
[03:59] <Seveas> because they will
[03:59] <mirak> and not  linux-imag8 ? for exemple
[03:59] <mirak> ok
[03:59] <Bettong_BOFH> anyone know how to get seti@home to work in breezy?
[03:59] <[LethAL] > Bettong_BOFH, Tried installing it?
[03:59] <Hfuy> Oh, no! A BOFH!
[03:59] <AMDXP> wow i made it
[03:59] <Bettong_BOFH> yes
[03:59] <[LethAL] > AHHHH
[03:59] <Bettong_BOFH> ^_^
[03:59] <Hfuy> Mother!
[03:59] <Bettong_BOFH> roflmao
[03:59] <[LethAL] > Bettong_BOFH, Look for config iles for it then
[04:00] <LaserLine> [LethAL]   Shoot ! I forgot to burn some drivers .... darn...
[04:00] <[LethAL] > LaserLine, LOL
[04:00] <[LethAL] > Oh no, another BOFH
[04:00] <Bambi_BOFH> lol
[04:01] <Seveas>  /mode #ubuntu +b *BOFH*!*@*
[04:01] <Seveas> oops :)
[04:01] <Bettong_BOFH> well i installed it from synaptic and it;s getting messed up some how
[04:01] <Bambi_BOFH> lol Seveas
[04:01] <Hfuy> How's Texas doing
[04:01] <hexion> hello
[04:01] <Hfuy> Still a little soggy underfoot?
[04:01] <LaserLine> [LethAL]  Now i'll have to install the Maxtor Onetouch driveres before....
[04:02] <[LethAL] > LaserLine, Everything except my wireless card and PPPoA/E modem worked oob for me :D
[04:02] <LaserLine> [LethAL]  When i install windows, the first thing i do is install the Mobo Driveres and Video one.... but now i'll have to burnthem...
[04:02] <AMDXP> yes is fine for the most part
[04:03] <hexion> I have a great problem. I have installed breezy for AMD64... and when I configure my wireless card (wlan0) if I enter internet, the kernel crashes
[04:03] <Hfuy> Why hasn't anyone written a CD writing application which plays "Disco Inferno" while it's working?
[04:03] <HaNazir> anyone here know centericq?
[04:03] <Seveas> hexion, wlan0 ndiswrapper?
[04:03] <Bettong_BOFH> so has anyone actually gotten seti@home to run from synaptic
[04:03] <hexion> seveas: no.. texas instruments
[04:03] <Seveas> which driver?
[04:04] <hexion> seveas: with hoary there was no problem and with breezy on ubuntu 386 (actually on it) no problem
[04:04] <LaserLine> O-T I just got a new monitor, Samsung LCD 730B - It's awsome... and not that expensive.
[04:04] <hexion> Seveas: the problem is only with breezy for AMD64 :|
[04:04] <LuVUnTu> thank u fer nautilus-open-terminal Seveas
[04:05] <[LethAL] > hexion, Then it's an AMD64 compat problem
[04:05] <LuVUnTu> Seveas, that worked
[04:05] <bigfoot1> how can i recover my original handle of "bigfoot"? when i try to rename myself to that, i get a message: "nickname is already in use." how could that be?
[04:05] <hexion> [LethAL]  I can't make a apt-get update :(
[04:05] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> well i'm stumped it has some sorta problem with getting something and i have no idea what
[04:05] <[LethAL] > hexion, I know
[04:05] <hexion> [LethAL] , so what can I do? Just wait for final version?
[04:05] <Seveas> bigfoot1, did you register that name?
[04:05] <[LethAL] > hexion, download the Breezy CD?
[04:06] <hexion> [LethAL]  Yes.. I installed the system from CD.. fresh install
[04:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> ChurcH_of_FoamY: it tries to download a tar from berkeley, and cant log into the server, so teh deb isnt in /tmp when its needed
[04:06] <LuVUnTu> hexion, shipit if u could wait
[04:06] <bigfoot1> Seveas, yes i think so. I registered that name and this one.
[04:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> it may be a bug in ubuntus deb or it may be a server login issue
[04:06] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh
[04:06] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok
[04:06] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> time for a bug report ^_^
[04:06] <Seveas> bigfoot1, /msg nickserv ghost bigfoot your_password
[04:07] <[LethAL] > hexion, I don't know much about 64 bit, but you could install 386 and download the 686-krnel and related stuff perhaps
[04:07] <dooglus> is it possible to type in the nautilus location bar?
[04:07] <hexion> LuVunTu: I can wait to the final version, but I would like to know why my system crashes and how to repair it (if It can be done)
[04:07] <Tortel> gah, tooo MUCH typING
[04:07] <bigfoot1> seveas, what if i forgot the password. can they send it to me by email?
[04:08] <jcspray> quit
[04:08] <LuVUnTu> dunno hexion prolly had too many windblow memories
[04:08] <theojo> hola me gustaria configurar bitorrent  pero al dar a cargar me sale un mensaje open locacion fot bitorrent meta files, que necesito???
[04:08] <Seveas> bigfoot1, /stats p
[04:08] <[LethAL] > !es
[04:08] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:08] <Seveas> and ask someone from the freenod estaff
[04:08] <theojo> ok gracias
[04:08] <[LethAL] > :)
[04:09] <bigfoot1> Seveas, i did that. how do i ask?what email address? What nickname do i address message to?
[04:09] <bigfoot1> Seveas, i got this: p :Stx (i=stx@freenode/staff/stx)
[04:09] <Seveas> bigfoot1, ask Stx here on irc
[04:10] <hexion> Ok, I think I better leave it and continue using this system I am now (Ubuntu 32 bits) and wait for the final release to try again installing ubuntu 64 bits..
[04:10] <hexion> thanks for your help :)
[04:10] <bigfoot1> seveas, do i just go "/msg stx message_goes_here?"
[04:11] <Seveas> bigfoot1, sounds reasonable :)
[04:11] <mdke> does anyone know why I can't use nano to edit things on remote servers when using rxvt-unicode as my terminal?
[04:11] <bigfoot1> Seveas, thanks.
[04:12] <Seveas> mdke, remote as in ssh or as in nfs/smb?
[04:12] <mdke> ssh
[04:12] <Seveas> mdke, is nano installed on that server? :)
[04:12] <mdke> Seveas, it works with other terminals
[04:12] <Seveas> hmm
[04:12] <mdke> Error opening terminal: rxvt-unicode.
[04:12] <LaserLine> Would the Hoary LIVECD let me burn ??
[04:12] <bettong_BOFH> with this seti@home isshue do i report it to bugzilla or launchpad?
[04:12] <Seveas> TERM=vt100 nano
[04:12] <Seveas> maybe it's VT100
[04:13] <LaserLine> [LethAL]  Does ubuntu livecd (hoary) have a built in cd burning tool ?
[04:14] <[LethAL] > LaserLine, No idea, but I doubt it
[04:14] <mdke> Seveas, ?
[04:14] <bettong_BOFH> anyone know
[04:14] <LaserLine> [LethAL]   knopix ?
[04:14] <Seveas> mdke, didn't that work?
[04:14] <[LethAL] > LaserLine, I've never tried, but I do have 2 burners...
[04:14] <kuraiten> Hi, I got questions about ubuntu
[04:14] <Bambi_BOFH> Seveas: should a bug in a multiverse package be reported in launchpad/malone or bugzilla?
[04:14] <Seveas> then try this:
[04:14] <mdke> Seveas, i didn't realise you wanted me to type it in
[04:14] <Seveas> export TERM=xterm
[04:14] <mdke> Bambi_BOFH, LP
[04:14] <Seveas> nano /path/to/file
[04:15] <LaserLine> Anyone managed to burn cd's with Ubuntu Live cd or Knoppix 3.7 Livecd ?
[04:15] <Bambi_BOFH> mdke: thanks
[04:15] <[LethAL] > kuraiten, try asking some?
[04:15] <kuraiten> 1) Does it install just 1 desktop enviroment?     2) Does it include xchat     3) Is ubuntu good for desktop/server?
[04:15] <mdke> Seveas, the first one worked
[04:15] <mdke> Seveas, any idea what is wrong?
[04:15] <[LethAL] > kuraiten, 1) yes, 2) yes 3) yes
[04:15] <donald> trying to install hoary on sata, installer cannot find any disks
[04:15] <Seveas> kuraiten, you can install more then one, but the default is one
[04:15] <kuraiten> which enviroment does it install?
[04:15] <mdke> kuraiten, by default Gnome
[04:15] <LaserLine> kuraiten gnome
[04:15] <Seveas> mdke, on the server rxvt-unicode isn;t recognized as a usable terminal
[04:15] <[LethAL] > kuraiten, Gnome, unless you download Kubuntu, which installs KDE
[04:16] <mdke> Seveas, any idea how to change that?
[04:16] <kuraiten> where would I get kubuntu out?
[04:16] <kuraiten> at"
[04:16] <[LethAL] > kuraiten, click the kubuntu like on ubuntu.com
[04:16] <[LethAL] > link*
[04:16] <Seveas> mkde put 'export TERM=vt100' or 'export TERM=xterm' in your .bashrc there
[04:16] <Seveas> mdke*
[04:16] <mdke> Seveas, that is clearly a workaround right?
[04:17] <Seveas> yes
[04:17] <mdke> Seveas, any real solution?
[04:17] <kuraiten> Well, basically kubuntu and ubuntu are the same, right?
[04:17] <mdke> i'll do that for now
[04:17] <Seveas> I can't remember it :)
[04:17] <[LethAL] > kuraiten, yes
[04:17] <kuraiten> okay
[04:17] <kuraiten> thank you
[04:17] <mdke> Seveas, ok, thanks for your help
[04:17] <[LethAL] > No problem
[04:17] <donald> controller is Promise SATAII150 TX2Plus
[04:17] <Seveas> mdke, slocate terminfo / slocate termcap
[04:18] <LaserLine> Anyone here knows what livecd would let me burn a cd (it's kind of important)
[04:18] <donald> any idea which parameters to use at install?
[04:18] <Seveas> somwhere in these files the good configuration should be added
[04:18] <Seveas> LaserLine, the ubuntu one :)
[04:18] <bettong_BOFH> anyone have the url for launchpad
[04:18] <mdke> bettong_BOFH, launchpad.net
[04:18] <Seveas> launchpad.net
[04:18] <Seveas> google.com/search?q=launchpad :)
[04:18] <LaserLine> Seveas With what tool, and how ?
[04:18] <bigfoot1> can I upgrade to breezy now just via an internet connection (without needing to burn files to a CD)?
[04:19] <kairu0> how can i disable the .trash from being created on a usb thumb drive?
[04:19] <Seveas> LaserLine, same as on the regular ubuntu installs..
[04:19] <[LethAL] > Could someone explain to me how to set up a job to run locate -u every 12 hours? It seems that I should be sugin anacron as my PC isn't allways on, but the manual isn't too good
[04:19] <kairu0> bigfoot1, there is no need for a cd
[04:19] <mdke> bigfoot1, change hoary to breezy in /etc/apt/sources.list, run apt-get update then apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:19] <Hfuy> What does Breezy Badger mean anyway
[04:19] <bigfoot1> mdke, is it safe to go from hoary to breezy? will my files be safe?
[04:19] <LaserLine> Seveas I don't know how... because this lappy dosn't have a burner, and my desktop does...
[04:20] <ompaul> Hfuy, nothing
[04:20] <bigfoot1> Hfuy, some cute animal.
[04:20] <ompaul> Hfuy, other than the name for 5.10 Ubuntu
[04:20] <bigfoot1> Hfuy, with an electric fan.
[04:20] <Hfuy> badgers aren't that cute
[04:20] <ompaul> bigfoot1, and warty warthog was?
[04:20] <Hfuy> I have a three inch scar on the inside of my left arm from a badger
[04:20] <Seveas> LaserLine, install gnomebaker (yes, you can install things on a live system) and use it
[04:20] <Hfuy> they don't mess about
[04:20] <ompaul> Hfuy, what were you doing that close to one
[04:21] <Hfuy> Violating the protected species laws.
[04:21] <Hfuy> I'm a video camera operator.
[04:21] <LaserLine> Seveas Thanks ! (I know i can install on a livecd - that's what so great about linux !)
[04:21] <Hfuy> It didn't like me putting a tripod down just outside its set.
[04:21] <mdke> bigfoot1, back up first, but it is fairly safe, yes
[04:21] <mdke> gtg
[04:21] <ompaul> Hfuy,  yeap I can see how that would work
[04:22] <HaNazir> how do i kill a console session?
[04:22] <Hfuy> They have teeth, and don't hesitate to use them.
[04:22] <HaNazir> it froze
[04:22] <bigfoot1> how come I have 3 seperate xchat windows now? I can i put all in one window, and have 3 tabs instead?
[04:22] <ompaul> HaNazir, you say console, is that a console in X or ctrl+alt+fn
[04:22] <HaNazir> like when i press ctrl +alt and F2, then agan F3, i want to kill f3
[04:23] <HaNazir> ompaul: not in X
[04:23] <ompaul> HaNazir, what program is running?
[04:23] <dooglus_> I found out how to type in the nautilus location bar at last...  run applications->system tools->configuration editor, navigate to apps/nautilus/preferences and enable 'always_use_location_entry'.  seems a little complicated to me!
[04:23] <HaNazir> ompaul: nothng
[04:23] <HaNazir> ompaul: the session itself froze
[04:23] <Seveas> dooglus, <ctrl>L would have been the easy solution :)
[04:23] <ompaul> HaNazir, ctdl
[04:24] <Stueycaster> I know absolutely nothing about ubuntu or linux. What server should I go to?
[04:24] <ompaul> HaNazir, ctl+d that is
[04:24] <scanwinder> does anyone know of any good linux software for designing PCB's
[04:24] <Seveas> Stueycaster, go to for what?
[04:24] <dooglus_> Seveas: if I had known that control-l did that, it would have been.  how should I have discovered that?
[04:24] <HaNazir> ompaul: control+d ? or delete?
[04:24] <LuVUnTu> dooglus, i learn that last night .... ctrl + l
[04:24] <HaNazir> ompaul: non of them do anything
[04:24] <Seveas> dooglus, from the manual :)
[04:24] <Bergcube> PCB = Printed Circuit Board ?  ...or something else?
[04:24] <Stueycaster> To get started using ubuntu
[04:24] <ompaul> HaNazir, d
[04:24] <Seveas> Stueycaster, then you're at the right place :)
[04:25] <scanwinder> Bergcube: yeh, printed circuit board
[04:25] <Stueycaster> ok thanx
[04:25] <HaNazir> ompaul: while i'm in it right? it doesnt do anything
[04:25] <dooglus_> Seveas: the man page doesn't mention it
[04:25] <Seveas> OculusAquilae, public away messages are annoying and get you banned
[04:25] <bigfoot1> xchat users. how can i get 3 seperate xchat windows into one window and 3 tabs ?
[04:25] <LuVUnTu> well it worked last night ... location bar is better than the buttons
[04:26] <mmiikkee12> is there a way to install ubuntu from an iso on the hard drive, like the debian hd-media kernel?
[04:26] <whyameye> I can't seem to print from my ubuntu laptop through the Windows network. I am getting: Connection failed with error NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED. This works fine with other Windows machines.
[04:27] <obontu> hey all
[04:27] <obontu> i just installed ubuntu on a fresh new hd
[04:27] <Stueycaster> Can i access files in other partitions using the live cd
[04:27] <El_Che> whyameye: do you use the correct user/pass?
[04:27] <ompaul> HaNazir, okay so start a shell in X type >> ps auwx | grep tty << you will see what processes are holding it then "kill -9 $" where $ is the number on the lleft hand side on that row
[04:27] <LuVUnTu> dooglus, can u like toggle the location bar mode?
[04:27] <obontu> 80 gb, and i allocated 12 gb partition for ubuntu, and 68 gb for all of my music and movies and stuff
[04:28] <obontu> the 68 gb is formatted in ext3
[04:28] <obontu> how do i find it?
[04:28] <Seveas> Hfuy, if that is a script, switch it off. If it isn't: #ubuntu-offtopic is the place for you
[04:28] <dooglus_> is it possible to search the on-line help for GNOME apps?
[04:28] <obontu> when i go to places->computer
[04:28] <obontu> i don't see it
[04:28] <gouchi> Hi
[04:28] <Bergcube> scanwinder~ I stumbled over an application for doing that when I googled for it a few days ago.  There was a multi-platform thingy that looked ok.  The double-sided version was free, the multi-.layer was not.  But I am not able to recollect the name or any URL.  But at least you CAN find it via Google.  Good luck!
[04:28] <obontu> i only see the ubuntu partition
[04:28] <gouchi> does someone succeed with DVB card
[04:28] <gouchi> I have a skystar2
[04:28] <henke> obontu, where did you mount the larger paritition?
[04:29] <ompaul> HaNazir, got it?
[04:29] <Hfuy> Oh, that's a point. Are there any known good DVB cards for Linux?
[04:29] <doraemon> how come when i press Ctrl-C to copy, my 2 tabs seperate into 2 xchat windows?
[04:29] <Hfuy> I'd like to build a PVR from some bits and pieces I have lying around, and I'd hate to put MCE on it.
[04:29] <gouchi> does someone has a DVB card which works under hoary ?
[04:29] <dooglus> LuVUnTu: I've no idea.  I'd like to know, but don't know how to find out.  the man page for nautilus is tiny, and the on-line help doesn't seem to be searchable
[04:29] <LaserLine> WOW the LiveCD works faster on my system then an Installation on my Laptop :-)
[04:29] <HaNazir> ompaul: it was mplayer i killed it, but the session is still frozen
[04:29] <obontu> ?
[04:30] <ompaul> HaNazir, killall mplayer
[04:30] <HaNazir>  ompaul i did
[04:30] <LuVUnTu> dooglus, well i thought i'd ask ... thanks anyway
[04:30] <ompaul> HaNazir, hmm test for something holding the tty with the ps again
[04:30] <dooglus_> LuVUnTu: I think Seveas might know, but he's not telling :)
[04:30] <HaNazir> ompaul: ???
[04:31] <ompaul> HaNazir,  >> ps auwx | grep tty <<
[04:31] <LuVUnTu> c'mon Seveas u know wut it is. puleez tell
[04:31] <HaNazir> ompaul: what am i looking for?
[04:32] <Hfuy> ...whoops.
[04:32] <blekos> is there another command for make?
[04:32] <ompaul> HaNazir, paste that in paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:32] <wickedpuppy> hi guys ... whats the plugin for amarok to play mp3 ?
[04:32] <blekos> in Debian?
[04:32] <Hfuy> Ow?
[04:32] <wickedpuppy> i forgot
[04:32] <mmiikkee12> is there a way to install ubuntu from an iso on the hard drive, like the debian hd-media kernel?
[04:33] <HaNazir> ompaul: cant do that right now. thanx man :)
[04:33] <donald> who knows how to install hoary on sata disk, it's a Promise TX2+ controller?
[04:33] <Bambi_BOFH> mmiikkee12: not on the standard install no, i dont think so
[04:33] <LaserLine> [LethAL]  If I reinstall windows and choose to leave 20GB of unpartitioned space, the Ubuntu Installation would find it, am I right ?
[04:33] <mmiikkee12> how about a non-standard install? :P
[04:34] <ompaul> HaNazir,> username   21523  0.0  0.8   4692  2072 ttyX     S    15:25   0:00 -bash
[04:34] <ompaul>   << you see something like this just >kill -9 21523<
[04:34] <wickedpuppy> !mp3
[04:34] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[04:34] <phendrick> hi all. if i have a dynamic ip, is there a way of publishing the new on somewhere, so i know how to access my home network from work?
[04:35] <zeedo> phendrick: use a dynamic dns service
[04:35] <Hfuy> phendrick: Dyndns?
[04:35] <zeedo> eg.. http://www.afraid.org
[04:35] <selinium> Hi guys i amtrying to administer CUPS via 127.0.0.1:631. I have set lppasswd -a <username> but it still will not login in. Any ideas?
[04:35] <phendrick> are they free?
[04:35] <Hfuy> Under Windows I have a dynamic DNS updater which works rather well.
[04:35] <Hfuy> Yes.
[04:35] <zeedo> phendrick: yes
[04:35] <Hfuy> I presume there's equivalents for Linux
[04:35] <dooglus> Seveas: are you sure that the manual mentions using control L to change the location bar to text-entry?
[04:35] <phendrick> cool, thanks
[04:35] <Hfuy> That way you can have a standard hostname (usually whatever.dyndns.org) and it works reliably.
[04:35] <ompaul> selinium, why do thatn when you can sysetm adminstration printing
[04:36] <selinium> ompaul: I would like to be able to do it through http
[04:37] <LaserLine> Seveas What is the BurnFree Option ?
[04:37] <wickedpuppy> Hfuy, there is one module for dydns in webmin
[04:37] <LaserLine> Seveas in Gnome Baker.
[04:37] <wickedpuppy> more than one actually
[04:38] <Hfuy> wickedpuppy: I presumed something similar.
[04:38] <wickedpuppy> and dyndns itself provides scripts
[04:38] <wickedpuppy> i used them before
[04:38] <Hfuy> The Windows one I use is called DNSser
[04:38] <wickedpuppy> some works ... some doesn't
[04:38] <Hfuy> Works fine
[04:38] <albacker> guys i have beatrix distro installed which is ubuntu-like and i get packages from ubuntu hoary. i cant hear anything when i do play with bmp.. i change to alsa and oss. in oss it plays the song but i hear nothing... theres no sound. i download alsa-base, alsa-utils, alsa-oss.. and still nothing. can someone help me ?
[04:38] <Hfuy> It's hardly rocket science. You could probably write it as a shell script.
[04:38] <wickedpuppy> well yah .. so why not you write one ?
[04:39] <Hfuy> I'm under Windows.
[04:39] <Hfuy> But yes.
[04:39] <LaserLine> Seveas I have a /fstab error when I try to burn....
[04:39] <whyameye> I can't get ubuntu to print to my printer on our Windows network.
[04:39] <ompaul> selinium, whats not working that you need that interface?
[04:39] <Hfuy> All it usually does is requests the status page from the router every so often, greps out the IP, compares it with last time, and requests a URL at dyndns.org if it's different.
[04:39] <wickedpuppy> Hfuy, if you are under windows ... why you need to ask  ?? i am curious
[04:40] <Hfuy> wickedpuppy: I wasn't asking, somneone else was.
[04:40] <selinium> ompaul: It is an exercise in getting it working, not that it isn't, if you see what I mean.. I  am trying to learn about all the different systems.
[04:40] <wickedpuppy> oh
[04:41] <wickedpuppy> lol
[04:41] <selinium> ompaul: I have no problem with CUPS. I would like to be able to use the web admin that is all.
[04:41] <El_Che> selinium: you can use it
[04:41] <pizux> yop got a problem when i launch mplayer : " please supply the text font file ( ~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf)
[04:42] <pizux> how to do that?
[04:42] <jack-> switch off the subtitles? :~
[04:42] <selinium> El_Che, I have set the lppasswd -a <user> but it will not let me login
[04:42] <dooglus> LuVUnTu: the only way I can find to toggle the location bar mode is using the configuration editor, as I described above.
[04:43] <jack-> my question: which pkgs do i need to be able to mount ntfs drives?
[04:43] <JimKnopf> seveas?
[04:43] <dooglus> the nautilus docs seem to be in this file: /usr/share/gnome/help/user-guide/C/goscustdesk.xml - but no mention of 'control l' in there.
[04:43] <JimKnopf> bist du zufllig gerade da?
[04:43] <jack-> oh shit ein doitscher
[04:43] <JimKnopf> jip..a nice german guy ;)
[04:44] <doraemon>  test
[04:44] <jack-> isnt that a contradiction? all krauts are evil :)
[04:44] <[Wiebel] > hmz
[04:44] <[Wiebel] > no prims2 support in ubuntu?
[04:44] <[Wiebel] > Sep 25 16:43:48 localhost cardmgr[6393] : module /lib/modules/2.6.12-8-686/pcmcia/prism2_cs.o not available
[04:44] <JimKnopf> sorry .. I was dreaming ...  now I will write in german
[04:44] <Dekko> Heya, does someone know why I can't change keyboard layout to Estonian in Ubuntu 5.10 with Gnome 2.12?
[04:44] <JimKnopf> hehe
[04:44] <doraemon> can you guys see this line in  purple?
[04:44] <jack-> fortunately not
[04:44] <El_Che> selinium: cupsys shadow
[04:44] <Hfuy> Purple?
[04:44] <whyameye> any ideas on printing to a printer on a windows network?
[04:44] <El_Che> selinium: adduser cupsys shadow
[04:44] <El_Che> i mean
[04:45] <doraemon>  can you see this line in green?
[04:45] <El_Che> selinium: then restart cups (/etc/init.d/cupsys restart)
[04:45] <jack-> fortunately not
[04:45] <jack-> doraemon: freenode has elite no-colors-on-this-chan flags
[04:45] <jack-> seems like they used that here :p
[04:45] <doraemon> jack-, you mean you can't see what i typed in color?
[04:46] <JimKnopf> I need a little bit help with the java sun-jre ... package
[04:46] <ompaul> !tell JimKnopf about java
[04:47] <[Wiebel] > nvm
[04:47] <[Wiebel] > chaging prims2_cs to orinoco_cs did the trick
[04:48] <[Wiebel] > hmm
[04:48] <[Wiebel] > however it won't work
[04:48] <[Wiebel] > that prism 1
[04:48] <[Wiebel] > grr
[04:49] <LuVUnTu> dooglus, yeap one of u good fellas showed that to me last night
[04:50] <bam_> got a samba question
[04:50] <bam_> getting operation not permitted on a ping, what would cause that?
[04:51] <Hfuy> workgroup issue? no, that wouldn't...
[04:51] <bam_> dunno, had my z hooked up fine last night
[04:51] <bam_> now getting this
[04:52] <Hfuy> Your Z?
[04:52] <Hfuy> What's a Z?
[04:52] <bam_> zaurus
[04:52] <Hfuy> Christ, I thought I was the only person on the face of the planet who owned one of those.
[04:52] <bam_> just another linx box
[04:52] <bam_> linux
[04:52] <Hfuy> What do they call it, tiny-ix?
[04:52] <Hfuy> :)
[04:52] <Hikaru79> Has any solution yet been found for the many many people who are getting ridiculously low harddrive io speeds in Breezy?
[04:53] <bam_> dunt use breezy until its out of testing?
[04:53] <whyameye> is there another channel I could try for asking about troubleshooting samba network printing from ubuntu?
[04:53] <Bambi_BOFH> that wasnt an answer Bam :/
[04:53] <Hikaru79> bam_, I know. But this is something that has to be fixed by the time Breezy is released, and that is what I'm asking about.
[04:53] <Hikaru79> The problem won't magically fix itself if we just wait for release day.
[04:54] <Hfuy> Feh.
[04:54] <Hfuy> It's Linux.
[04:54] <bam_> i know, just being a smartass, having samba issues with my z
[04:54] <tudal> tyrytr
[04:54] <tudal> fghfg
[04:54] <tudal> gf
[04:54] <tudal> hgfh
[04:54] <Hfuy> Why should the developers give a damn what we think.
[04:54] <tudal> fgh
[04:54] <tudal> fgh
[04:54] <tudal> fg
[04:54] <tudal> hello
[04:55] <zakame> hi all
[04:55] <zakame> are the *.archive servers up?
[04:55] <LuVUnTu> bleeding badass slap Bambi_BOFH
[04:55] <Hfuy> OK. I have now downloaded 633.52Mb of Ubuntu.
[04:55] <Hfuy> Which is all of it.
[04:55] <Hikaru79> zakame, yes.
[04:55] <Hfuy> There are no seconds remaining.
[04:55] <Bambi_BOFH> LuVUnTu: yeh, working on it ;)
[04:55] <Hfuy> And yet I am still "Receiving File"
[04:56] <pont> Hikaru79, has anyone just tryed recompiling the kernel
[04:56] <LuVUnTu> do an md5sum Hfuy
[04:56] <Hikaru79> pont, I believe not. Why, you think it might be a problem with the IDE modules in the kernel?
[04:57] <LuVUnTu> brb
[04:57] <Hikaru79> (Only IDE drives seem to have this problem, by the way)
[04:57] <Hfuy> ...and I pause and resume the download to clear the issue, and it gives up on the last half of the file and starts again from halfway.
[04:57] <Hfuy> Let me ask one question. Do the servers from which I am downloaing Ubuntu, run Ubuntu?
[04:57] <Hfuy> Because if they do, I can't say I'm terribly impressed.
[04:57] <zakame> Hikaru79, thanks! :D
[04:58] <Bambi_BOFH> Hfuy: i think they are
[04:58] <pont> Hikaru79, Its a possability, I dunno... It could be many things.. but i would start by recompiling the kernel and if i wasn't still experiancing the problem. Submit an update to the bug assuming one has been rased
[04:58] <LuVUnTu> i think we all have a choice here
[04:58] <Hfuy> This is the FIFTH TIME I have attempted to download Ubuntu.
[04:58] <pont> since if its a problem that is effecting alot of people.. there sould be a bug rased
[04:58] <blekos> how can i c ithe graphic card which is installed?
[04:58] <Hfuy> I don't know what in the seventh level of hell is wrong with these servers...
[04:58] <Seveas> Hfuy, you are using a stupid mirror
[04:58] <LuVUnTu> we can be patient or just go back to windblows
[04:58] <Hikaru79> pont, kay, good idea. I'll try that now.
[04:58] <Bambi_BOFH> Hfuy: realy? i have only had probs with breezy, on my ISP. not hoary on the master servers
[04:59] <Hfuy> http://releases.ubuntu.com/breezy/ubuntu-5.10-preview-install-i386.iso
[04:59] <LuVUnTu> i'd opt for the former
[04:59] <Seveas> Hfuy, the preview has been superseded by colony 4
[04:59] <pont> Hikaru79, Just firstly check if you can find the bug on bugzilla if you can check if there is a suggested fix
[04:59] <Seveas> colony 5 i mean
[04:59] <Bambi_BOFH> coloney 5 is out isnt it?
[04:59] <Bambi_BOFH> mm.
[04:59] <Hfuy> Seveas: Wonderful. I've been downloading it for so damn long, it's out of dat!
[05:00] <LuVUnTu> prolly a gazillion others are dloading
[05:00] <Seveas> Hfuy, it's a development release, it's out of date the moment you install...
[05:00] <Bambi_BOFH> before :'(
[05:00] <Seveas> either wait for breezy to be stable or use the stable
[05:00] <Seveas> which is hoary
[05:00] <Hfuy> I'd love to. I can't even download the bastard.
[05:01] <LuVUnTu> yea ... right on ... we r on preview here
[05:01] <Seveas> Hfuy, given that you're the only one with probs, i'd say the error is on your side.
[05:01] <onkarshinde> what is new on Colony 5?
[05:01] <Hfuy> I've tried two different computers and three download clients/.
[05:01] <Bambi_BOFH> less crashes hopefully :o
[05:01] <Hfuy> All of which work fine otherwise.
[05:01] <LuVUnTu> Seveas, i'd say that was the lighter side of u
[05:03] <ompaul> Hfuy, which platform? amd/intel or mac?
[05:03] <LuVUnTu> there's this nice little app were u can easily add or remove apps
[05:03] <kemik> how do i add an extension to files using "rename" ?
[05:03] <LuVUnTu> onkarshinde,
[05:03] <Bambi_BOFH> wow. shipts been changed
[05:03] <Hfuy> ompaul: INtel
[05:04] <JimKnopf> what was really important for me in breezy...is the possibility to choose your default soundcard ;)
[05:04] <JimKnopf> breezy is working really good for me
[05:04] <selinium> El_Che, Cheers, works a treat! Sorry i got called away
[05:05] <ompaul> Hfuy, that is what you need [basic model]   put that in your browser and let it download >>>> http://releases.ubuntu.com/hoary/ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso
[05:05] <LuVUnTu> next release wishlist - support for my webcam
[05:05] <El_Che> selinium: however, you'll have more printers models to install from the gnome-printer thingie
[05:05] <Hfuy> ompaul: well, I've got half of this thing here
[05:05] <Hfuy> I'll persevere
[05:06] <Hfuy> or it'll be another DAY.
[05:06] <JimKnopf> I would like to have an easy way to set up a wireless connection
[05:06] <Stueycaster> can I access existing files in my computer using the live cd
[05:06] <JimKnopf> yes, why not
[05:07] <kemik> Stueycaster:  just have to mount the partitions
[05:07] <LuVUnTu> ahh another wishlist live cd that'll save sessions on fix media
[05:07] <Bambi_BOFH> hm.
[05:07] <LuVUnTu> and files
[05:07] <Bambi_BOFH> who do that? *knows at least one live cd does it*
[05:08] <Bambi_BOFH> puppy was it?
[05:08] <Bambi_BOFH> :/
[05:08] <LuVUnTu> i know one dynebolic
[05:08] <JimKnopf> do somebody know a similar app to xvidcap?
[05:09] <JimKnopf> xvidcap works for me but it uses 100% cpu during recording :(
[05:10] <Hfuy> Reboot successful.
[05:10] <LuVUnTu> yay ~~~
[05:10] <Bambi_BOFH> wd Hfuy
[05:11] <Hfuy> wd?
[05:11] <Hfuy> Well, it cleared the Premiere error.
[05:11] <blekos> anybody knows where stdout is?
[05:11] <Bambi_BOFH> lol
[05:11] <Bambi_BOFH> sorry :-$
[05:11] <Hfuy> blekos: Between your buttocks, usually.
[05:11] <LuVUnTu> woops
[05:11] <Bambi_BOFH> blekos: usualy terminal
[05:12] <Bambi_BOFH> its standard out
[05:12] <blekos> :)
[05:12] <blekos> lol
[05:12] <Bambi_BOFH> :)
[05:12] <Hfuy> This is like the snail
[05:12] <Hfuy> crawling towards the top of the well
[05:12] <Hfuy> and making half the distance every time.
[05:12] <Hfuy> I will never get Ubuntu at this rate.
[05:14] <Bambi_BOFH> Hfuy: how long does it take you to dl a cd?
[05:14] <LuVUnTu> heheh
[05:14] <Hfuy> Couple of hours.
[05:14] <Hfuy> Usually.
[05:14] <Hfuy> I've been at this nearly three days.
[05:15] <Bambi_BOFH> o_0
[05:15] <Hfuy> Sigh. Oh well. Welcome to the Linux Zone, where thing's Aren't Terribly Reliable.
[05:15] <Hfuy> Argh, did I just mis-apostrophise?
[05:15] <Hfuy> This must really be getting to me.
[05:15] <jvNET> hoy, pinoy akow
[05:15] <Phr0stByte> Does anyone know how I can totaly disable the firewall on my Linksys router?
[05:16] <Bambi_BOFH> ....
[05:18] <avinoam> Are there backport repos for breezy?
[05:18] <Seveas> breezy isn't even out yet
[05:18] <JimKnopf> @seveas hey seveas could you please give me the user and pass for your deb packages?
[05:18] <Seveas> so how would there be backports?!?
[05:18] <ompaul> Seveas, who is looking after shipit?
[05:18] <avinoam> where is stuff that would be in backports?
[05:18] <Seveas> ompaul, it used to be mako
[05:18] <JimKnopf> thats a point seveas ;)
[05:18] <avinoam> regular repos?
[05:18] <Seveas> JimKnopf, what do you need?
[05:19] <_pir> helo,  I have two "broken packages" when want to fix it, synaptic want's to remove 150+ other packages ... so what's the point there?.. thanks
[05:19] <Belutz> Seveas: i just ordered 5.10 from shipit
[05:19] <Seveas> _pir, a bit more details would help...
[05:19] <JimKnopf> I would like to use your java packages
[05:19] <avinoam> seveas i'm trying to install some packages and having problems
[05:19] <Seveas> JimKnopf, hoary or breezy?
[05:19] <JimKnopf> breezy
[05:19] <Seveas> sec.
[05:19] <JimKnopf> and the w32codecs
[05:19] <Belutz> ompaul: if you already know the person who is looking after shipit, please let me know :)
[05:19] <blekos> does anybody know how i can check the graphic card installed by ubuntu?
[05:19] <ompaul> _pir, you say 150, is that ubuntu_desktop?
[05:20] <Seveas> avinoam, a bit more details please...
[05:20] <avinoam> I get some unmet dependencies that i can't even find in apt-get
[05:20] <Seveas> avinoam, paste the complete error on the pastebin
[05:20] <JimKnopf> @belkos use lspci
[05:21] <Belutz> avinoam: maybe you should enable the universe/multiverse repos
[05:21] <avinoam> seaveas: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2512
[05:21] <ompaul> Seveas, I have two events on in Oct - wishful thinking :-)
[05:21] <avinoam> belutz they are enabled
[05:21] <Seveas> ompaul, very :)
[05:21] <Hfuy> Yikes. Yahoo Mail is horribly horribly broken in Explorer.
[05:22] <Seveas> avinoam, where did you get kmuddy from?
[05:22] <avinoam> seveas, the kmuddy website
[05:22] <ompaul> Seveas, one of them is eu/national politicians and the other is the local lug AGM I live in hope
[05:22] <dell500> can someone help me get my dual monitors not display a clone of the current desktop?
[05:22] <Seveas> avinoam, duh...
[05:22] <rai0d> hi
[05:22] <Phr0stByte> Does anyone know how I can totaly disable the firewall on my Linksys router?
[05:22] <avinoam> seveas what?
[05:22] <Seveas> no wonder you get errors
[05:22] <avinoam> why?
[05:22] <Seveas> isn't there a deb specific for ubuntu?
[05:22] <avinoam> i can only install stuff on the ubuntu repos?
[05:23] <avinoam> nope
[05:23] <izak30> can anyone help me with a thinkpad 600e and alsa problems?
[05:23] <Seveas> avinoam, sure you can, but debs made for debian etch won't work on hoary
[05:23] <avinoam> seveas i'm on breezy
[05:23] <ompaul> avinoam, if it ain't build for ubuntu you build with the source :)
[05:23] <_pir> I have ubuntu 5.04 and I wanted libfox 1.4 ,, so I removed libfox 1.0 which I had, then I tried to install ver 1.4 ,, but I had dep problems.. now I have libfox 1.4 as a broken package...
[05:23] <avinoam> gotcha
[05:24] <avinoam> do i need to install anything to compile? or does ubuntu ship with a compiler?
[05:24] <prabu^> Hello all
[05:24] <avinoam> ompaul, compilation won't help with dependencies
[05:24] <_pir> when I try to fix it... from synaptic... it needs to remove many many ather packages... why?
[05:24] <Seveas> avinoam, sec...
[05:24] <ompaul> avinoam, make that if it ain't built for your version of ubuntu :)
[05:24] <prabu^> are there any .deb packages for tomcat ?
[05:25] <Hfuy> Tomcat?
[05:25] <prabu^> yep
[05:25] <prabu^> apache tomcat
[05:25] <avinoam> ompaul, seveas i guess i'll attempt a compile?
[05:25] <test34> is it normal that the .aptitude folder in my home directory is owned by root ?
[05:25] <ompaul> avinoam, hang on Seveas was going to give more clues to you
[05:25] <Seveas> avinoam, the kmuddy fools don't know how to properly buid .debs
[05:25] <avinoam> gotcha
[05:26] <avinoam> so what to do?
[05:26] <Seveas> probably the source ain't much better
[05:26] <izak30> test34, you probably made the directory in su mode
[05:26] <avinoam> the libmxp0 installed flawlessly
[05:26] <izak30> sudo chown .aptitude test34
[05:26] <avinoam> i dpkged it
[05:26] <Seveas> rofl@the planned features:
[05:26] <Seveas> for version 1.0
[05:26] <Seveas>     - make it all work well without bugs
[05:27] <izak30> can anyone help me with a thinkpad 600e sound and alsa problems?
[05:27] <snorks> lol
[05:27] <jroes> doh!
[05:27] <jroes> my icons on my desktop disappeared, what should I do?
[05:27] <avinoam> seveas what do i need to get to attempt a compile?
[05:27] <Seveas> try a manual compile, I won't attempt it, or attempt to support
[05:27] <Dingy> hey
[05:27] <Belutz> jroes: killall nautilus ?
[05:27] <ompaul> jroes, killall nautilus
[05:27] <Dingy> how do I get alsaconf in ubuntu?
[05:27] <jroes> I right-clicked on an ubuntu ISO icon I had on my desktop so I could try and burn a cd, but it just locked up and dthe icons disappeared
[05:27] <ompaul> Belutz,  no question about it :)
[05:27] <jroes> should I file a bug report as well, or...?
[05:28] <Belutz> ompaul: ok :)
[05:28] <jroes> whoa, my mouse is lagging!
[05:28] <avinoam> seveas i heard that it's a candidate for universe
[05:28] <_pir> I have ubuntu 5.04 and I wanted libfox 1.4 ,, so I removed libfox 1.0 which I had, then I tried to install ver 1.4 ,, but I had dep problems.. now I have libfox 1.4 as a broken package..now, synaptic want's to remove many other packages in order to fix it... why?
[05:28] <Belutz> ompaul: i'm still learning to be a good support :D
[05:28] <Seveas> _pir, dpkg -P libfox
[05:28] <ompaul> jroes, if you can repeat the behaviour go for the report - try it with different or no other programs running
[05:28] <jroes> ah, nautilus stole 50% cpu
[05:29] <avinoam> it says i have no acceptable c compiler
[05:29] <jroes> hmm, should update-notifier be using 20% cpu constantly?
[05:29] <avinoam> what compiler do i need to get?
[05:29] <jroes> and X using 40%, and notification-ar* something using 20% ?
[05:29] <wickedpuppy> there should be
[05:29] <wickedpuppy> have you enabled multiverse ??
[05:29] <test34> izak30, ok
[05:30] <avinoam> yeah
[05:30] <avinoam> lemme double check
[05:30] <jroes> hahaha, and firefox is using 50% mem.
[05:30] <izak30> that worked good
[05:30] <dell500> can someone tell me how to find out what BusID my monitors are on
[05:30] <wickedpuppy> all those apache tomcat jakarta and the rest should have .deb
[05:30] <jroes> I think I've multitasked to the point of instability :)
[05:30] <dell500> lol jroes
[05:30] <libben> anyone in here can help me with quake3 problem?
[05:30] <avinoam> eh i think i'm missing multiverse
[05:30] <libben> the game wont take the changes ive made into my cfg
[05:30] <avinoam> where's the repo list for breezy?
[05:31] <libben> ive copied my baseq3 from a ntfs partition.. so i think it has something to do with perms.
[05:31] <ompaul> avinoam, /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:31] <avinoam> ompaul that i know
[05:31] <avinoam> ompaul i mean where is the list of the repos that i should add?
[05:31] <jroes> libben: so try chown user:user && chmod -R 755 *
[05:31] <Dingy> Hey, I'm having a problem getting sound on a computer using an onboard intel soundchip, I've been told to use alsaconf, but it doesn't seem to be included with alsautils, can anyone help me?
[05:32] <LaserLine> If I install Windows XP, and after that Hoary... and when Breezy comes, i'd like to clear the reinstall ubuntu instead of upgrading the distro - what should I do ?
[05:32] <ompaul> avinoam, main restricteduniverse multiverse are the core ubuntu ones
[05:32] <cycom> Dingy: Centrino?
[05:32] <izak30> does anybody have experience with alsaconfig or something to help me load the correct modules for my thinkpad 600e sound
[05:32] <Moopere> Dingy: wassup?  What intel chip?
[05:32] <deelaz> love ubuntu
[05:32] <deelaz> ;D
[05:32] <bastijn> I have same problem as Dingy
[05:32] <LaserLine> *** Do a Clean installation of Ubuntu *** (had a typo)
[05:33] <bastijn> my problem:
[05:33] <bastijn> (i posted it on the forum too)
[05:33] <bastijn> I have a really strange problem with my sound. The first time i putted in the live-CD i had sound. Then I installed it on my laptop and i had sound. After this the apt-get update and from then of i have no sound. My sound-pictogram in the upper right corner shows an X and when i click it, it sais something like: "Maybe your card aint installed or GStreamer-plugin is not right." Acording to my laptop I have an 'intel 82801BA-ICH2' sound
[05:33] <bastijn>  card. Can anyone help me?
[05:33] <bastijn> PS. I use ubuntu 5.10, installed it on sunday sept 25 and updated it sept 25.
[05:33] <cycom> Dingy: what kind of soundcard is it?
[05:34] <avinoam> ok i got it let's see....
[05:34] <Dingy> Moopere, I think it's i850 or something like that
[05:34] <Dingy> onboard intel sound
[05:34] <avinoam> nah kmuddy still isn't there
[05:34] <avinoam> and why don't i have a C compiler?
[05:34] <cycom> Dingy, I have an i915. centrino board right?
[05:34] <Dingy> yes
[05:34] <LaserLine> If I have windows XP installed and Ubuntu Hoary installed, and when breezy comes out, i'd like to delete the hoary installation and reinstall breezy (w.o damaging my windows) How can I do that ? -- I don't want to use  upgrade-distro
[05:34] <Moopere> bastijn: What chipset?
[05:34] <bastijn> uhm
[05:34] <ksmurf> what happenind to the repos?
[05:35] <cycom> Dingy, I had a problem where I would get a double drum sound and then no sound. setting pci=noacpi on boot worked for me
[05:35] <bastijn> i386?
[05:35] <Dingy> cycom, where do I set that?
[05:35] <cycom> Dingy, do you know how to do that?
[05:35] <cycom> ah
[05:35] <izak30> i have a simmilar problem, which is supposed to be corrected by loading the snd_cs2342 module, but when i do that, it says that there is a fatal error and the module can't be found
[05:35] <test34> LaserLine, you can format the linux partition or delete/recreate the linux partition
[05:35] <mlopes> LaserLine, simply replace the hoary occurrences on /etc/apt/sources.list with breezy
[05:35] <Moopere> i915? i810? i845?
[05:35] <avinoam> anyone?
[05:35] <bob2> LaserLine: why not just update your existing systen?
[05:35] <cycom> do you have another computer around?
[05:35] <bob2> LaserLine: there's no reason to reinstall (tho that will work fine, too; just don't tell ubuntu to touch your windows partition)
[05:35] <Dingy> Moopere I think it's i845
[05:36] <Dingy> I would have to get back to you on that one though
[05:36] <cycom> Dingy, I ask because it takes a couple of steps, and trying to memorize them is islly
[05:36] <cycom> silly*
[05:36] <LaserLine> bob2 I preffer letting the new hardware identification system do it all over...
[05:36] <cycom> Dingy, why not just lspci?
[05:36] <bastijn> i dont know what my chipset is, im installing ubuntu over again, getting crazy of things that wont work the way i wanted it
[05:36] <bob2> LaserLine: that's unlikely to be useful, but is fine also
[05:36] <Dingy> cycom I'm not at the computer right now
[05:36] <clyrrad> anyone have any idea why i get Archive contains obsolescent base-64 headers when extracting a tar.bz2 file?
[05:36] <wickedpuppy> anyone heard of a tar called gtar ??
[05:36] <Moopere> Dingy: I'm using an i845 on my laptop here, ubuntu picks up the intel sound ok - whats listed if you do an lspci?
[05:37] <bob2> clyrrad: because the tar file was made on an old unix
[05:37] <LaserLine> test34 If I do what you said, will it edit the grub too, or I'll have a lot of garbage in my grub ?
[05:37] <wickedpuppy> funny i can't find it
[05:37] <clyrrad> bob2 How do i fix this issue?
[05:37] <bob2> wickedpuppy: on *bsd, GNU tar (linux's default tar) is called gtar
[05:37] <Dingy> I'll try lspci later
[05:37] <avinoam> is there no one that can tell me what i need to compile?
[05:37] <Dingy> thanks alot guys
[05:37] <bob2> clyrrad: what's there to fix? it's nonly a warning
[05:37] <wickedpuppy> avinoam, /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:37] <test34> LaserLine, if you do what I said and then reinstall breezy it should clean your grub
[05:37] <wickedpuppy> just uncomment multiverse and universe
[05:37] <ksmurf> what happenind to the repos?
[05:37] <bob2> avinoam: youu don't have a C compiler because yo udidn't read the FAQ and install one
[05:38] <bob2> avinoam: install build-essential
[05:38] <avinoam> which faq?
[05:38] <whyameye> wickedpuppy, if I remember right, gtar is an Apple product distributed by them with some developer tools.
[05:38] <avinoam> where is the faq?
[05:38] <clyrrad> bob2, I am not able to extract the files, I get that as an Error, not a Warning, thne get bzip2 Data integrity error when decompressing right after that
[05:38] <bob2> BAH
[05:38] <ivanox> Hi my Mozilla Firefox doensn't work anymore since it become some failure with my updating, Anyone know what to do?
[05:38] <_pir> Seveas: thanks.
[05:38] <bob2> stop taking the goddamn FAQ out of the /topic
[05:38] <avinoam> i can't believe that there's a linux distro and you need to install a compiler
[05:38] <bob2> avinoam: oh, stop it
[05:38] <Dingy> ivanox, try apt-get remove mozilla-firefox and then install
[05:38] <tycoon> how do i run warcraft on ubuntu
[05:39] <steely> use cedega
[05:39] <bastijn> you cant :P
[05:39] <ivanox> ok
[05:39] <LaserLine> test34, ok - and the installer will let me choose the partitions ? because now i'm reinstalling windows after a failed ubuntu install, I had 20GB of un-allocated space on my drive, just delelted a partition, and the installer didn't find it, and damaged my windows installation (it's ok...wanted to reinstall anway)
[05:39] <Moopere> avinoam: U can't be serious, most don't install a compiler by default
[05:39] <tycoon> cedega can?
[05:39] <bastijn> D3D aint supported right?
[05:39] <avinoam> where's the faq at?
[05:39] <avinoam> moopere not true
[05:39] <whyameye> still stuck trying to get ubuntu to print on my Windows network... Samba...Can anybody help?
[05:39] <avinoam> slack does
[05:39] <avinoam> slack is a pretty big one
[05:39] <steely> tycoon: flawlessly
[05:39] <clyrrad> bob2, its actually the linux-sources that I am trying to extract, and have even tried to download them from kernel.org I ge the same problem
[05:39] <cycom> avinoam, so does gentoo. but it needs it.
[05:39] <LaserLine> test34 will that work ?
[05:39] <libben> jroes: where do i do that ? the chown thing? should i be in the dir /usr/local/games/quake3 ?
[05:39] <avinoam> so i'd love to read this faq
[05:39] <blekos> anybody hh
[05:40] <jroes> libben: yeah
[05:40] <blekos> anybody having a vaio??
[05:40] <jroes> libben: do you have a linux binary or src...?  how are you doing this?  I didn't know you could run q3 in linux
[05:40] <libben> quake3 is the easiest thing to run in linux
[05:40] <bastijn> jroes: Q3 = opengl
[05:40] <jroes> oh ;)
[05:40] <bastijn> :)
[05:40] <libben> just download the point file and run the installer
[05:41] <cycom> I'm still wondering why the heck every time I run GPSD I lose my ipw2200
[05:41] <libben> then copy the baseq3 from cd
[05:41] <jroes> it's open source now, isn't it?
[05:41] <libben> yes it is
[05:41] <libben> even better
[05:41] <libben> wow. cant wait for the mods to it
[05:41] <bastijn> brb, have to let the dog out
[05:41] <avinoam> umm
[05:42] <avinoam> anyone know where the faq is?
[05:42] <test34> laserline, yeah the installer let you choose the partition
[05:42] <Seveas> !faq
[05:42] <ubotu> faq is, like, The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy)
[05:42] <clyrrad>  anyone have any idea why i cant extract linux-source2.6.11.tar.bz2 I get Archive contains obsolescent base-64 headers and then bzip2: Data integrity error when decompressing.  I have tried to re-download the sources from kernel.org with the same results, anad help is appreciated
[05:42] <avinoam> ubotu i'm actually in kde
[05:42] <ubotu> avinoam: No idea
[05:42] <aclonedsheep> does ubuntu have built in power management for a laptop?
[05:42] <Seveas> yes aclonedsheep
[05:42] <aclonedsheep> awesome
[05:43] <aclonedsheep> gonna try it out then
[05:43] <ivanox> Dingy, I have installed and updated but it won't start :/
[05:43] <aclonedsheep> i want my laptop to  be a stable work machine
[05:43] <avinoam> i need a faq for how to install a compiler
[05:43] <test34> avinoam, install gcc from synaptic
[05:43] <theblue> Hi all.
[05:43] <ekimus> hi, not exactly an ubuntu issue, i convinced a friend of mine to use ubuntu, now they have a couple of boxes in their flat, all windows with wlan+wep, the key they gave me is wrong. any way to get the key? i have physical access to all the other boxes...
[05:43] <avinoam> ok
[05:43] <libben> drwxr-xr-x   7 root root 4096 2005-09-18 17:07 quake3
[05:43] <libben> is this wrong ?
[05:44] <Xorlev> avinoam: Install build-essential
[05:44] <Trewas> clyrrad: did you use the correct option with tar for bzip2 decompression? (tar jxvf blah.tar.bz2)
[05:44] <theblue> Is there any way (for free) to get a remote X shell from Hoary onto a Windows XP box?
[05:44] <libben> cause i cant install it as a user
[05:44] <SiRrUs> good afternoon
[05:44] <bob2> clyrrad: I'd be guessing you're behind a broken proxy
[05:44] <Seveas> theblue, freenx
[05:44] <ekimus> theblue: putty
[05:44] <avinoam> xorlev there's a package called build-essential?
[05:44] <bob2> avinoam: eh? as I said, instal build-essential
[05:44] <bob2> avinoam: yes
[05:44] <Seveas> ekimus, *X* shell
[05:44] <avinoam> does that include gcc?
[05:44] <Xorlev> avinoam: Yes.
[05:44] <ekimus> ...oops
[05:44] <Moopere> theblue, you mean like cygwin?
[05:44] <libben> is freenx so much better as ppl says ?
[05:44] <clyrrad> Trewas, yes I tried that way and by using tar --bzip2 -xvf.... they both give the same error
[05:44] <theblue> moopere: Never tried it.
[05:44] <goo> theblue: nomachine.com is what you want
[05:44] <bob2> avinoam: yes, read the description
[05:44] <clyrrad> bob2, a broken proxy?
[05:44] <Seveas> freenx is awesome
[05:45] <avinoam> bob2 i'm apt-getting
[05:45] <Trewas> clyrrad: ok, then its something else... I have just seen that same error when fumbling with tar options :)
[05:45] <libben> cause i dont like it that i need to install a client on a windows machine... i wish they would have like vncviewer.exe cause then my friends wouldent complain if i wanna remote a box
[05:45] <GNU-GPL> pxe server solution
[05:45] <avinoam> can you get a description in apt-get?
[05:45] <Moopere> theblue, oh - ok.  Well, install cygwin (http://www.cygwin.com), it will allow you to connect to your hoary with X
[05:45] <Dingy> ivanox, I don't know, it worked for me
[05:45] <goo> libben: yeah, freenx works over a modem link - try that with normal X..
[05:45] <Seveas> libben, you don't need a client
[05:45] <bob2> clyrrad: check the MD5sum of it
[05:45] <whyameye> bob2: any way you could help me troubleshoot a samba network printing problem?
[05:45] <Seveas> there's a web plugin
[05:45] <theblue> moopere: Without any trouble at all?
[05:45] <ivanox> ok :/
[05:45] <bob2> avinoam: apt-cache show packagename
[05:45] <avinoam> cool
[05:45] <bob2> whyameye: it's 0145, sorry
[05:45] <wickedpuppy> hmms
[05:45] <wickedpuppy> thanks guys
[05:46] <clyrrad> bob2, how can I check that from command line?
[05:46] <wickedpuppy> LaserLine, it does ... choose custome partition
[05:46] <Seveas> bob2, get some sleep ;)
[05:46] <libben> Seveas: ? so if i install the freenx on my box ? i can go to a public site and enter my ip to control it thru java ?
[05:46] <Moopere> theblue, no trouble.  you gotta set up gdm of course to allow remote xdmcp
[05:46] <bob2> clyrrad: md5sum filename.blah
[05:46] <Dingy> I got the same problem, I did apt-get remove mozilla-firefox and then afterwards apt-get -f install (because there were some issues) and then apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[05:46] <Dingy> and it worked fine then
[05:46] <theblue> moopere: But once I do that, how do I get cygwin to accept it?
[05:46] <whyameye> bob2: okay. Yep. Get some sleep. Thanks for responding.
[05:46] <Seveas> libben, it's not java, but yeah :)
[05:46] <zenlunatic> any ideas why the colony 5 .iso torrent won't download anything?
[05:46] <bob2> Dingy: apt-get -f doesn't fix broken packages theselves
[05:47] <bob2> zenlunatic: the tracker might be screwed again
[05:47] <Hikaru79> If I don't have any graphics tablets, is it safe to remove all those extra input drivers that breezy comes with, even though they remove the xserver-xorg metapackage?
[05:47] <JaZyLNX> could someone help me mount a drive
[05:47] <Moopere> theblue, right - open a cygwin command line and type "X -query mybox"  replace mybox with the name of your hoary
[05:47] <theblue> And will the Cygwin approach work across the Internet, as in, I could offer X shell accounts?
[05:47] <bob2> Dingy: if you're using backports, you have lost, have a nice day
[05:47] <bob2> Dingy: then read the channel topic
[05:47] <Seveas> Hikaru79, if space isn't an issue, just keep them installed
[05:47] <zenlunatic> bob2: i want the iso but i didn't want to strain main servers
[05:47] <Dingy> bob2, I know, I'm just telling exactly what I did because there were a package that hadn't installed properly
[05:47] <JaZyLNX> i added this to my fstab /dev/hdb /mnt/-=Drive1=- ntfs default 0 0
[05:47] <Hikaru79> Seveas, okay.
[05:47] <bob2> Dingy: are you using backports?
[05:47] <Dingy> oh
[05:47] <theblue> Moopere: Thanks.
[05:47] <Dingy> yes I am
[05:47] <JaZyLNX> and when i try to manual mount i get that either it's already mounted, or that /mnt/-=drive1=- is busy
[05:47] <avinoam> installing linux-kernel-headers... wtf?
[05:47] <Dingy> but I don't have the problem
[05:47] <Moopere> theblue, cygwin, properly set up is just presenting an X server to your X client
[05:47] <JaZyLNX> any ideas?
[05:47] <bob2> Dingy: then read the channel topic
[05:48] <bob2> JaZyLNX: that seems fairly clear
[05:48] <El_Che> theblue: it will, but you better don't. Is is not safe (no encryption)
[05:48] <bob2> JaZyLNX: look at the output of "mount | grep drive1"
[05:48] <ekimus> JaZyLNX: you want to look into the "user" option in man mount, and probably use a better name (just alphanumerical)
[05:48] <El_Che> theblue: you can use X forwarding in ssh. With that you don't get all the X session but you can launch remore programs
[05:48] <oxez> If I install breezy preview, will I have to reinstall my system again once it's released in october?
[05:49] <El_Che> oxez: no
[05:49] <libben> anyone wanna look at a output for me ?
[05:49] <JaZyLNX> okay lemme try that ekimus , and bob2  thanks
[05:49] <avinoam> ok guys now i geta new error
[05:49] <avinoam> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[05:49] <oxez> El_Che: what will I have to do then?
[05:49] <bob2> oxez: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[05:49] <bob2> avinoam: xlibs-dev
[05:49] <ekimus> avinoam: you need the X devel packages
[05:49] <libben> i have quake3 and a mod called arena and q3ut3 my q3config.cfg wont get readed in quake3 when i start it....
[05:49] <bob2> avinoam: what are you compiling?
[05:50] <Hikaru79> Here's a question -- why is monodevelop a dependency of firefox?
[05:50] <Hikaru79> Er, other way around.
[05:50] <El_Che> oxez: nothing. You'll be already in breezy. Just keep apt-get upgrading regularly
[05:50] <Hikaru79> I'm trying to remove firefox, and it wants to take monodevelop with it...
[05:50] <Seveas> bob2, some crud called kmuddy...
[05:50] <libben> does it has to do with me copyieng it while i was su ? and copied it from a ntfs partition that i mounted ?
[05:50] <libben> http://quake3.pastebin.com/373762
[05:50] <cyphase> morning..
[05:50] <libben> heres the output
[05:50] <avinoam> bob2 kmuddy
[05:50] <blekos> anybody having a vaio??
[05:50] <avinoam> blekos i used to have one they suck
[05:50] <Seveas> it's not in the repos, they have a deb that requires newer libs than breezy and no deb-src :)
[05:50] <bob2> blekos: just ask your question
[05:50] <oxez> El_Che: okay thank you very much!
[05:51] <blekos> y do u think so?
[05:51] <inthenow> hi
[05:51] <inthenow> how can i change the gnome theme?
[05:51] <cyphase> \title
[05:51] <blekos> i try to install acpi to have brightness reduced
[05:51] <El_Che> oxez: no prob
[05:51] <blekos> but cannot
[05:51] <cyphase> lol, oops
[05:51] <ivanox> I don't get it I have removed Mozilla Firefox and installed and update but still it won't start!
[05:51] <bob2> Hikaru79: it's not
[05:51] <Seveas> inthenow, art.gnome.org/faq.php
[05:51] <steely> using ubuntu, will i want the redhat or debian version of a given app
[05:51] <DocTomoe> Has anyone managed to get mod_rewrite to work in Ubuntu? it is loaded, but it won't work for me.
[05:51] <xophEr> Where is it that I can file a request?
[05:52] <Seveas> steely, neither
[05:52] <theblue> steely: Debian.
[05:52] <Belutz> ivanox: killall firefox-bin and re-run firefix
[05:52] <bob2> inthenow: system -> preferences -> theme
[05:52] <Seveas> you want the ubuntu version
[05:52] <cyphase> ivanox, run killall firefox-bin firefox
[05:52] <steely> whoah
[05:52] <steely> which one?
[05:52] <ivanox> ok
[05:52] <Seveas> steely, which app?
[05:52] <steely> neither or debian?
[05:52] <steely> cedega
[05:52] <theblue> steely: Listen to Seveas, he knows more than me.
[05:52] <inthenow> bob2: can i download more?
[05:52] <Seveas> steely, debian then
[05:52] <bob2> steely: get the tarball of it
[05:52] <bob2> inthenow: sure, and that window even tells you what to do with it
[05:53] <ivanox> Belutz, thank you very much
[05:53] <ivanox> cyphase, thank you 2 :)
[05:53] <steely> now, between seveas and bob2 who ir more correct?
[05:53] <steely> or are both
[05:53] <avinoam> freaking dependency hell lol
[05:53] <cyphase> np ivanox
[05:53] <inthenow> bob2: you know where to get lots?
[05:53] <Moopere> anyone know how to convince rhythmbox to pick up an mp3 link off a web page (.pls) and play it?
[05:53] <ivanox> bye
[05:53] <Seveas> steely, best is not to use cedega at all and find linux apps
[05:53] <theblue> apt-get is also giving me a genparse error whenever I use it.
[05:53] <bob2> steely: getting a tarball guarantees you won't break dpkg
[05:53] <Undeconstructed> steely: debian packages are likely to work, but not guaranteed.  fedore one's might work if you're very lucky
[05:54] <Seveas> bob2, afaik the cedega .deb is quite ok
[05:54] <steely> seveas: like what?
[05:54] <bob2> tho, iirc, the cedega tarball spews shit across/
[05:54] <bob2> which is so utterly useless
[05:54] <Seveas> steely, what do you need cedega for?
[05:54] <blekos> i run a make command but i get *** /lib/modules//2.6.12-9-386/build: No such file or directory
[05:54] <steely> i'd like to use it to run various windows based games
[05:54] <Seveas> steely, use windows for such games.
[05:55] <bob2> steely: meh, go for the woody deb then, if they have it
[05:55] <steely> i really don't want to reinstall windows
[05:55] <Seveas> half of them will not work woth cedega, the other half will work partially
[05:55] <DocTomoe> blekos: get the kernel headers
[05:55] <bob2> blekos: sudo aptitude install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[05:55] <blekos> hmm would u mind xplaining...
[05:55] <blekos> i c
[05:55] <bob2> steely: if they have .debs for sarge or sid, they won't install on haory
[05:55] <steely> sarge or sid?
[05:56] <avinoam> sarge is stable sid is testing
[05:56] <steely> ahh
[05:56] <Undeconstructed> erm, sid is unstable surely?
[05:56] <bob2> Undeconstructed: yes
[05:57] <avinoam> wait what is more stable testing or unstable?
[05:57] <Moopere> avinoam, sid is unstable, etch is testing I think
[05:57] <ericz> anyone ever setup kannel on ubuntu?
[05:57] <avinoam> you're right you're right
[05:57] <Gunth> hello there
[05:57] <snorks> unstable is more stable than testing
[05:57] <bob2> avinoam: testing is mosty more stable
[05:57] <snorks> potato potato
[05:57] <blekos> what r the headers
[05:58] <bob2> blekos: some of the settings and definitions that were made when the kernel was built
[05:58] <avinoam> woody is obsolete isn't it?
[05:58] <bob2> blekos: e.g. what sort of CPU you have and such
[05:58] <Moopere> avinoam, yep
[05:58] <bob2> avinoam: it's now known as oldstable and only has a year or so of security fixes left
[05:58] <Moopere> avinoam, tho it will get security for at least a year
[05:58] <blekos> y rn't they pre-installed/compiled during installation process?
[05:59] <bob2> blekos: no
[05:59] <avinoam> i'm still attempting to compile kmuddy lol
[05:59] <bob2> blekos: the vast majority of people don't need them
[05:59] <blekos> i c
[05:59] <sockpuppe1> my account doesn't see my psp anymore
[05:59] <sockpuppe1> any reason why not?
[05:59] <blekos> guess that vaio can b a pain in the...
[05:59] <blekos> has a great screen thought
[05:59] <ericz> has anyone had any experience with setting up kannel on ubuntu?
[05:59] <avinoam> blekos i had a vaio and my screen went kaput
[05:59] <blekos> !!!
[05:59] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ! is what you add before a sentence to talk to me
[06:00] <blekos> how soon?
[06:00] <avinoam> i don't remember
[06:00] <avinoam> it was a common problem with my line of vaios
[06:00] <blekos> oh
[06:00] <blekos> the main think that concernes me
[06:00] <inthenow> bob2: you know how to install an icon theme properly?
[06:01] <blekos> is that i almost have spent 3 days trying to install all neccessary things (yet not managed to have all of them)
[06:01] <blekos> and have left my work to stay behind...
[06:01] <avinoam> does ubuntu have a program like checkinstall?
[06:01] <Undeconstructed> avinoam: you can use checkinstall
[06:01] <inthenow> anyone know the best way to install an icon theme properly in ubuntu?
[06:01] <blekos> some times windows just works
[06:01] <avinoam> undeconstructed it will make a deb?
[06:01] <blekos> but don't like them
[06:01] <blekos> ...
[06:02] <blekos> and I like supporting the idea behind ubuntu
[06:02] <blekos> is there any shortcut to copy & paste from a terminal a line?
[06:02] <Ricapar> For the icon theme: put it in ~/.icons/ folder, it should show up on the icon theme list
[06:02] <Undeconstructed> avinoam: no, it just works in the same way as on slack or whatever, watching the files installed
[06:02] <blekos> a command for example u just typed
[06:03] <avinoam> undeconstructed, on slack it makes a tgz
[06:03] <inthenow> bob2: so easy to install themes...thanks
[06:03] <bob2> blekos: triple click on it
[06:04] <Undeconstructed> avinoam: yeah, seems I'm totally wrong there, looking at the description ("apt-cache show checkinstall")
[06:04] <inthenow> bob2: you know when you are promted to browse for files? How do you show hidden there?
[06:04] <ericz> nobody knows anything about kannel?
[06:04] <Moopere> ericz, what does kannel do?
[06:04] <ericz> its a wap gateway daemon thing
[06:04] <dell500> when adding another monitor to the xorg config, how do i find out the bus id for that monitor, or if it's on the same card, should it be the same/
[06:04] <ericz> for WAP browsers on cell phones
[06:04] <inthenow> When you you hit browse to browse for files. How do you show hidden there?
[06:05] <Moopere> ericz, oh right - never seen it sorry
[06:05] <oxez> inthenow: right click, and select Show hidden files
[06:05] <_jason> inthenow: ctrl+h in nautilus; or ls -a
[06:05] <avinoam> i wonder if this compile will work hmm
[06:06] <inthenow> oxez: thanks is it default like that from now on?
[06:06] <oxez> inthenow: iirc, no
[06:06] <oxez> but you could probably make it default
[06:06] <oxez> That I don't know :o
[06:06] <inthenow> oxez: its a good question
[06:08] <Gunth> I can't boot from the PCC hoary live CD on a dual G5... Kernel loading freeze on a white screen saying that it doesn't recognise my processor.. Any idea ?
[06:10] <Lars_G> Greetings all.
[06:10] <Lars_G> Seveas: Greetings sir.
[06:10] <xophEr> Madpilot, I think you had the same motherboard as I, asus a8v-e deluxe. Does lm-sensors work for you?
[06:10] <JaZyLNX> okay guys now i got the drive mounted but only root is able to see it. it's read only which i know cuz it's ntfs. so it won't let me change any of the permissions on it any ideas?
[06:10] <selinium> Is it possible to add my work printer to my printers?
[06:11] <JaZyLNX> well the other users can see the drive, just not view it's contents
[06:11] <El_Che> selinium: yes
[06:11] <bastijn> Jay: what is your command your mounting with?
[06:11] <Lars_G> JaZyLNX: You can remount it. Still if this is something you want to do a lot, add a correct line to fstab including either a "user" option or a gid/uid for someone who should be able to read it.
[06:11] <avinoam> ok compiled let's see what happens now
[06:12] <JaZyLNX> i got it in the fstab like this /dev/hdb1 /mnt/Drive1 user 0 0
[06:12] <selinium> El_Che, how? lol I have the work machine on my network servers, where do i go from here?
[06:12] <bastijn> Jay: see this website:
[06:12] <nictuku> I have a HSF modem (HP nx9005 laptop). Is there any alternative to make it work besides linuxant?
[06:12] <bastijn> jay: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/archive/index.php/t-1082.html
[06:12] <Lars_G> JaZyLNX: If it's user, then you need to mount it with the user that will read it, not with root. Umount it, and remount with the user ("mount /mnt/Drive1" only or it'll fail)
[06:12] <bastijn> jay: and look of the post of gonza
[06:13] <El_Che> selinium: just add it, with the right ip address and the protocol (smb, ipp, etc) you shluld be able to complete the wizzard
[06:13] <Chii_Chan> What is the equivalent of the "make" command when attempting to install something?  I am trying to install the game XShipWars and its not working very well :/
[06:14] <pinucset> is there some web for seeing how many developers are in the projects? (kde, gnome, blender, gimp...)
[06:14] <snorks> What firewall should I use on a desktop comp?
[06:14] <snorks> software one
[06:14] <bastijn> make install
[06:14] <bastijn> make
[06:14] <Chii_Chan> bash: make: command not found
[06:14] <bastijn> apt-get install make
[06:15] <Chii_Chan> ah okey
[06:15] <bastijn> oh wait
[06:15] <bastijn> ./make
[06:15] <bastijn> try this
[06:15] <selinium> El_Che, The remote machine is Ubuntu as well. WHat protocol would you use?
[06:15] <Moopere> snorks, umm, anything wrong with firestarter?
[06:15] <rosh> hello
[06:15] <snorks> Moopere: thanks :)
[06:15] <Chii_Chan> bash: /make: No such file or directory
[06:15] <bastijn> hmm :S
[06:15] <bastijn> moment
[06:15] <Chii_Chan> afk as well have to take the dogs out
[06:15] <Dakylla> hi
[06:16] <Strife> so what's the deal with firefox breaking when you try to upgrade it in hoary?
[06:16] <Strife> anyone know how to fix that?
[06:16] <JaZyLNX> ty guys
[06:16] <bastijn> k
[06:16] <Dakylla> is there a up to date source for ardour on ubuntu ?
[06:16] <Strife> jaoifhe;a
[06:16] <Strife> sorry
[06:16] <snorks> Strife: hm, i think i've had that same problem
[06:16] <Seveas> Strife, /topic
[06:16] <Seveas> stof using crappy backports
[06:16] <Strife> like I said
[06:16] <Strife> sorry
[06:16] <Seveas> it's your own fault
[06:17] <snorks> be nice or u get lice
[06:17] <El_Che> selinium: ipp is the easiest. No need of extra packages besides cups. But if you have windows machines there too, smb (samba) is the way to go
[06:17] <El_Che> bbl
[06:17] <Seveas> (not meant personal, but backports caused too much errors0
[06:17] <Seveas> )
[06:17] <selinium> El_Che, Rhanks for the pointers
[06:17] <sunshine> hi i cant hear my music
[06:17] <selinium> THanks!
[06:17] <Lars_G> Seveas: If you get lice, you're being quarantined.
[06:18] <inthenow> how do i change the gdm theme?
[06:18] <Moopere> sunshine, whats up?
[06:18] <sunshine> i can see cd playing and the dvd playin but i cant hear them
[06:18] <bam_> sunshine, goto term type alsamixer, turn up your volume
[06:18] <Strife> well I wouldn't have used backports if when I had originally tried breezy it had worked instead of borking my system
[06:18] <Ruslan> selinium: get http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/sound/akode-mpeg for mp3
[06:18] <Strife> pardon me for liking up to date software
[06:18] <Moopere> sunshine, from gnome desktop or terminal?
[06:19] <kuraiten> Hi I got problems with CD burning.
[06:19] <selinium> Ruslan, ? Why? :) I think you are talking to the wrong person!
[06:19] <kuraiten> http://rafb.net/paste/results/oBL8cZ96.html    and      http://rafb.net/paste/results/oBL8cZ96.html
[06:19] <kuraiten> and I am root.
[06:19] <sunshine> i tried that i still cant hear anything
[06:19] <xophEr> if lm-sensors doesnt support my chip whats the procedure? :) Should I file a feature-request or a bug or what?
[06:20] <Dakylla> did someone here tried to compile ardour on breezy ?
[06:20] <oxez> sunshine: speakers plugged? :p happened to me once
[06:20] <xophEr> the chip is windows w83627EHF
[06:20] <Ruslan> Is your music in mp3 -format?
[06:20] <xophEr> winbond for gods sake :)
[06:20] <sunshine> what speaker plugged what that
[06:20] <Chii_Chan> back
[06:20] <sunshine> the speaker plugged in the back
[06:21] <Moopere> sunshine, you have got an audio cable from your cd/dvd drive to your soundcard right?
[06:21] <Ruslan> selinium: sorry,   sunshine :))
[06:21] <Moopere> sunshine, I know some folks don't cause windows XP use digital
[06:21] <avinoam> anyone here us kmuddy?
[06:21] <sunshine> everything is inside the cpu
[06:21] <kuraiten> does anyone know?
[06:21] <selinium> Ruslan, :D np
[06:21] <sunshine> i dont know
[06:22] <Moopere> sunshine, you get normal gnome sound?  Just nothing from dvd/cd?
[06:22] <Jeronimus> hi@all
[06:22] <bastijn> all: g2g, later
[06:22] <rosh> ubuntu does not seem to recognize my serial mouse, what type of mouse protocol should i set up in the xorg.conf file?
[06:24] <Moopere> rosh, I've always had to tell it which port my mouse is on with serial, don't use default of /dev/mouse
[06:24] <Chii_Chan> meh... what is the equivalent of make for ubuntu?  Im trying to use it to install a game called XShipWars, but for some reason when I try to use make it doesnt work
[06:24] <Cryptid> atlast the server is UP :-) i am soo happy
[06:24] <Xappe> Chii_Chan: install build-essential
[06:24] <inthenow> hi
[06:25] <Moopere> Cryptid, what server?
[06:25] <Xappe> Chii_Chan: and try again :)
[06:25] <inthenow> anyone know how i can reconfigure the xserver for higher resolutions to be available
[06:25] <rosh> Moopere: if my printer is on serial1 then my mouse is on serial2, how do i represent that in order to be readable from the x server?
[06:25] <rosh> /dev/what?
[06:25] <Cryptid> Moopere, synaptec package server was down rite
[06:25] <Chii_Chan> ah I noticed lol that I didnt even have it installed
[06:25] <Moopere> rosh, would be /dev/ttyS1 I think
[06:26] <Jeronimus> i think build essentials should be included in the default install
[06:26] <sunshine> i'm not on window xp im on breezy
[06:26] <rosh> okay but what protocol should i set up? "Auto"?
[06:26] <inthenow> is there a media center that doesnt need a backend?
[06:26] <Jeronimus> everyone will need make gcc and kernel files at some point when using linux
[06:26] <sunshine> what normal gnome sound
[06:26] <Chii_Chan> I see that the make program has not been installed >.<
[06:26] <Moopere> rosh, auto should work, yes
[06:26] <rio1987> l'audio non funziona!!!!
[06:26] <Moopere> Jeronimus, why?
[06:27] <rosh> Moopere: thank you
[06:27] <Moopere> sunshine, gnome desktop has sound effects - do you hear them?
[06:27] <Jeronimus> moopere - because at some point everyone will have to install new software?
[06:27] <Jeronimus> moopere - and some software come only as source
[06:27] <renjii> folks. hi. problem: how do i compile apps after downloading them? is it normal to get an error msg like this one when configuring amarok: "configure: error: cannot find sources (acinclude.m4) in . or .." -
[06:27] <sunshine> i dont hear anything
[06:27] <Moopere> Jeronimus, I install heaps of stuff, never needed to build anything to do it
[06:27] <sunshine> where are the sound effects
[06:27] <Moopere> Jeronimus, but I know what you mean
[06:28] <FhaeTon> hello I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my newly built computer stats [img] http://homepage.mac.com/jymac/FhaeTon_sig.jpg[/img] 
[06:28] <Arv3n> Hello.
[06:28] <steely> moopere:  using synaptic?
[06:28] <FhaeTon> I have a nvidia raid0 setup using Uata drives
[06:28] <Arv3n> Can anyone tell me how to get my Ubuntu Hoary Universe Repositories to work without errors on Synaptic?
[06:28] <steely> on the installations?
[06:29] <Seveas> !tell Arv3n about sources
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> Arv3n,  depends on the errors.
[06:29] <sunshine> arv3n: change source.list htttp: to ftp
[06:29] <FhaeTon> can anyone help me get ubuntu installer to recognize my nvidia raid0?
[06:29] <sunshine> does anyone know about scsi
[06:29] <Jeronimus> there is a bug with ubuntu breezy btw. When you search for packets in the synptic.
[06:29] <Moopere> steely, no, I use aptitude
[06:30] <Moopere> sunshine, what do you want to know?
[06:30] <sunshine> when i run cdrecord scanbus it said my scsi is unsupported
[06:30] <steely> did you use synaptic to install aptitude?
[06:30] <steely> hehe
[06:30] <Jeronimus> sometimes when you search for the name etc it outputs nothing. then you have to click the scrollbar and get the output
[06:30] <Moopere> sunshine, what scsi card do you have?
[06:30] <Arv3n> Seveas: I went to the website, is that what I should change it too?
[06:30] <Moopere> steely, no, aptitude is installed by default
[06:30] <Arv3n> sunshine: All of them?
[06:31] <steely> does ubuntu have it?
[06:31] <steely> hoary
[06:31] <FhaeTon> can anyone help me
[06:31] <Moopere> steely, yep, even warty had aptitude I think
[06:31] <steely> imma go look for it
[06:31] <Moopere> aptitude is not graphic, but its magic
[06:31] <sunshine> where do I get my scsi name from
[06:32] <Moopere> sunshine, lspci??
[06:32] <Nikopol> FhaeTon, Have you tried the nividia channel, they may have more experience of that?
[06:32] <Arv3n> # Example sources.list for Ubuntu hoary
[06:32] <Arv3n> ## All officially supported packages, including security- and other updates
[06:32] <Arv3n> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted
[06:32] <Arv3n> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted
[06:32] <Arv3n> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted
[06:32] <Arv3n> ## The source pacakges
[06:32] <Arv3n> #deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted
[06:32] <Arv3n> #deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted
[06:32] <Arv3n> #deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted
[06:32] <Arv3n> ## All community supported packages, including security- and other updates
[06:32] <cajun_>  /msg nickserv link cajun multorg
[06:32] <Arv3n> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe multiverse
[06:32] <Arv3n> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe multiverse
[06:32] <FhaeTon> how do i get thre
[06:32] <Arv3n> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates universe multiverse
[06:32] <Arv3n> ## The source pacakges
[06:32] <FhaeTon> to nvidia channel
[06:32] <Arv3n> #deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe multiverse
[06:32] <Arv3n> #deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe multiverse
[06:32] <Arv3n> #deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates universe multiverse
[06:32] <Arv3n> ## Backports - package version from a newer release build to work on the current
[06:32] <cajun_> \msg nickserv link cajun multorg
[06:32] <Arv3n> ## no guarantees on working - not enabled by default
[06:32] <Arv3n> #deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports universe multiverse
[06:32] <Arv3n> ## The source packages
[06:32] <steely> moopere: do i open it through command prompt?
[06:33] <Arv3n> #deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports universe multiverse
[06:33] <Arv3n> ## hoary-extras - the most widely used source for packages not includded in Ubuntu
[06:33] <Arv3n> ## no guarantees on working - not enabled by default
[06:33] <Arv3n> #deb http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[06:33] <Arv3n> wtf!
[06:33] <Arv3n> Sorry.
[06:33] <Arv3n> I'm sorry.
[06:33] <Moopere> steely, yep, open command prompt, then type aptitude
[06:33] <Arv3n> I thought it was  something else.
[06:33] <Arv3n> OMG.
[06:33] <steely> hehe
[06:33] <Arv3n> Ugh..
[06:33] <Arv3n> That made me look like an idiot. -.-
[06:33] <inthenow> why is the q3a linux point release no longer available?
[06:33] <steely> moopere: do i open it through command prompt?
[06:34] <sunshine> there are several thing there host bridge
[06:34] <sunshine> pci brigde
[06:34] <sunshine> isa brigde
[06:34] <Moopere> sunshine, anything scsi?
[06:34] <Moopere> sunshine, you got a pci or isa scsi card?
[06:35] <sunshine> got both pci and isa
[06:35] <steely> moopere:  aaaah thank you a million times
[06:35] <steely> goog god
[06:35] <steely> good
[06:35] <Arv3n> Can anyone help me, whenever I start Synaptic, it gives me errors.
[06:35] <sunshine> pci bridgeVIA Technologies, Inc. VT8363/8365 [KT133/KM133 AGP] 
[06:35] <Moopere> sunshine, you got a pci & isa scsi card really?
[06:36] <Moopere> Arv3n, use aptitude from command line
[06:36] <sunshine> i dont knw im just readin what on lspci
[06:36] <sunshine> ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super South]  (rev 40)
[06:36] <Moopere> sunshine, lets take a step back here, what r u trying to do?
[06:36] <dfeed> Hi everyone. I have a slightly annoying problem. When I log into Gnome (for the first time after a reboot, only) the three major applets crash and ask to be reloaded. After that they run fine. Any ideas anyone?
[06:36] <Arv3n> What if I don't know the package name? :(
[06:36] <sunshine> listen to cd and listen to dvd
[06:37] <Moopere> Arv3n, use aptitude and whwn it fires up press /
[06:37] <Chii_Chan> is there supposed to be some command called makefile?  Or am I misunderstanding this install document
[06:37] <steely> moopere: so i need to use debian files in aptitude?
[06:37] <Moopere> Arv3n, then type name of package you want
[06:37] <sunshine> listen to any music
[06:37] <Arv3n> Moopere, wait wait wait..
[06:37] <Moopere> steely, aptitude uses the same sources file as synaptic
[06:37] <Arv3n> Moopere, how do I do all this now?
[06:37] <Arv3n> Moopere, I was trying to allow Universal packages to be used on Synaptic, thats it, but it scerwed stuff up.
[06:38] <sunshine> moopere help
[06:38] <dfeed> Would it be worth asking in a gnome channel?
[06:38] <cajun_> how can i change my password with Netserv since i've broadcasted my password to the channel?
[06:38] <Moopere> Arv3n, you might have to edit your sources file by hand, try "nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:38] <Arv3n> Thats how I did it.
[06:39] <Chii_Chan> Anyone mind if I could send them an error that I am getting to see if I can get some help with it?
[06:39] <Arv3n> I edited it by hand.
[06:39] <blekos> is there a way to run the file manager as su?
[06:39] <HaNazir> can i get mouse scroll in console? just as i got a pointer?
[06:39] <Arv3n> Moopere, I did sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:39] <Moopere> sunshine, ok, so you want to listen to dvd/cd, why are we looknig for scsi at this time?
[06:39] <sunshine> well i been tryin everthing I have been in the ubuntu forum
[06:40] <Moopere> Arv3n, so, open aptitude, press / then type name of package you want or part of name, then press enter
[06:40] <Arv3n> Moopere, but I want to use Synaptic.
[06:40] <sunshine> i just trying to get it working
[06:40] <dfeed> Ok... different question. I originally installed as dual boot with XP. Since I never even log into XP, what's the best way to repartition so I can use that hard drive space?
[06:40] <Moopere> sunshine, do you have any sound from anything under gnome?
[06:40] <sunshine> i've been trying everything
[06:40] <sunshine> no
[06:40] <Arv3n> Moopere, oohhh, you mean open Synaptic? :S
[06:40] <Moopere> sunshine, right, so we have a problem with soundcard
[06:41] <Moopere> Arv3n, no, aptitude
[06:41] <Arv3n> I don't have an aptitude program.
[06:41] <Moopere> Arv3n, open command line, then type aptitude
[06:41] <Arv3n> Oh. :(
[06:41] <_jason> blekos: have you tried sudo nautilus?
[06:41] <Moopere> Arv3n, aptitude is standard on ubnuntu
[06:41] <sunshine> hw do we fix it
[06:41] <Moopere> sunshine, what soundcard do you have?
[06:42] <sunshine> how do i find that out
[06:42] <Moopere> sunshine, heh, lspci
[06:42] <Chii_Chan> can someone please help me out with an odd error message I keep getting?
[06:42] <Arv3n> Moopere, can't I just edit the sources.list so I can use the Universal packages or w/e?
[06:42] <sunshine> what is it call there is alot of title under lspci
[06:43] <Moopere> Arv3n, sure, but synaptic is a bit broken right?
[06:43] <Arv3n> Moopere, yeah.
[06:43] <sunshine> Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8363/8365 [KT133/KM133]  (
[06:43] <Moopere> sunshine, mine looks like this 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
[06:43] <Megz> Why should I use ubuntu instead of Fedora?
[06:44] <Arv3n> Moopere, but I want to use Synaptic. Its easier, lol. Can you just tell me how to edit my sources.list thingy so I can use the universal packages?
[06:44] <Moopere> Megz, because fedora is unstable and ubuntu isnt?
[06:44] <sunshine> 0000:00:07.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 AC97 A
[06:44] <Chii_Chan> Megz I believe its a personal preference
[06:44] <michele> Moopere: that isn't true
[06:44] <Arv3n> Moopere, I disagree I used FC and it worked fine.
[06:44] <Seveas> Megz, compared to ubuntu fedora is crap :)
[06:44] <Chii_Chan> Use whatever suits you, or so seems to be the spirit of linux
[06:44] <Seveas> it IS unstable
[06:44] <michele> Megz: just try it and see if you like it better than fedora
[06:44] <Seveas> it's the redhat beta playground
[06:44] <Megz> Ok well you guys all told me it's crap, but I'm wondering what the reason is
[06:44] <cesarin> hey guys, anyone as been suffering problems with synaptic since yesterday?
[06:45] <_jason> !tell Arv3n about repos
[06:45] <michele> Seveas: false
[06:45] <Megz> WHY is ubuntu better
[06:45] <Moopere> Arv3n, ok.  gedit /etc/apt/sources.list then add universe to the end of your deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu main restricted line
[06:45] <Seveas> michele, true, they admit it themselves.
[06:45] <cesarin> Megz,  because its super easy to install stuff using the synaptic
[06:45] <Chii_Chan> I dont know if it is crap or not.... Ive been using linux for three days now and Ive started with Ubuntu
[06:45] <Moopere> Megz, because its smaller than fedora and it 'just works'
[06:45] <michele> Megz: for the most part it isn't, it's just different
[06:45] <cesarin> I get this error : http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)
[06:45] <cesarin> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages)
[06:45] <Seveas> cesarin, remove double entries from sources.list
[06:46] <cesarin> Seveas,  and how do I do that?
[06:46] <michele> oh, ok, smaller is a fine argument. I love that Ubuntu is just onw CD
[06:46] <procrastinationn> i need help
[06:46] <Seveas> cesarin, edit sources.list and remove the doubles
[06:46] <cesarin> Seveas,  k
[06:46] <Seveas> you put them there yourself, so you should remove them yourself
[06:46] <dfeed> Ubuntu converted me to linux where other distros had convinced me it was too much hassle. Things are just easier with Ubuntu.
[06:46] <blekos> is there a way to run the file manager as su?
[06:46] <cesarin> Seveas, where IS sources.list btw? :P
[06:46] <Seveas> blekos, yes but you shouldn't
[06:46] <procrastinationn> i need help please
[06:46] <Seveas> cesarin, you added these doubles yourself so you should know
[06:47] <Seveas> /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:47] <blekos> i need to change a file for my monitor brightness
[06:47] <blekos> how can I do it?
[06:47] <Seveas> !tell procrastinationn about ask
[06:47] <Megz> is Ubuntu ever going to have Composite turned on with X?
[06:47] <Megz> Xorg
[06:47] <cesarin> Seveas, : i havent moved the sources since I installed the 386 version...
[06:47] <Seveas> Megz, as soon as it really works...
[06:47] <Ruaraidh> is archive.ubuntu.com back up?
[06:47] <Megz> the slowness of Xwindows gui is the biggest thing holding me back from Linux.. windows is just too much faster to really take linux serious right now
[06:47] <Seveas> cesarin, then you cannot have double entries
[06:48] <Seveas> Ruaraidh, yes
[06:48] <procrastinationn> how do i do this Replace user:user with your own user name & user group (usually the same name, in Ubuntu).
[06:48] <sunshine> mmooo#
[06:48] <Ruaraidh> thanks
[06:48] <Chii_Chan> Then go with windows megz
[06:48] <Chii_Chan> Its supposed to be whatever suits you best
[06:48] <Seveas> lol, X slow....
[06:48] <procrastinationn> how do i do this Replace user:user with your own user name & user group (usually the same name, in Ubuntu).
[06:48] <sunshine> moopere....
[06:48] <Megz> Seveas: You can't even drag a window around in X, without seeing it flicker.
[06:49] <Megz> And.. you can watch everything update in X
[06:49] <cesarin> Seveas,  this error started since I updated the kernel and phyton yesterday....
[06:49] <cesarin> It was fine before that
[06:49] <Megz> you can see your dialog boxes redraw.
[06:49] <Seveas> procrastinationn, depends on what the rest of the instructoins say.,,
[06:49] <Megz> on any PC, no matter how fast
[06:49] <Arv3n> OK guys, thanks I got it working. :)
[06:49] <Seveas> Megz, nonsense
[06:49] <Arv3n> Bye
[06:49] <Megz> Seveas: Try dragging a window around.
[06:49] <blekos> when i try to su to terminal it asks for psswd
[06:49] <Chii_Chan> I think that is just a visual thing similar to cursor trails
[06:49] <Megz> its like windows 3.1
[06:49] <Moopere> sunshine, you got module snd-via82xx loaded?
[06:49] <Seveas> no slower than XP
[06:49] <blekos> i just want to run a few things as su and not use sudo is that possible?
[06:50] <cesarin> Megz,  the diference is.... ubuntu's X doesnt have a memory leak like win 3.1 :P
[06:50] <sunshine> moopere i dont know what that mean
[06:50] <Seveas> blekos, yes, but not advised
[06:50] <Jeronimus> blekos sudo passwd root - > enter passwd for su
[06:50] <Chii_Chan> I have xp and ubuntu on here and I dont believe that it load slower on here
[06:50] <dylan_> where can i get a .deb for the w32codecs>?
[06:50] <Moopere> sunshine, type this : lsmod
[06:50] <Megz> well I setup two identical boxes, the linux boxes took like 4x longer to start up applications
[06:50] <Moopere> sunshine, type this : lsmod | grep snd
[06:51] <Chii_Chan> Im also running on a 3ghz laptop with 1024 mb ram with a radeon igp450m
[06:51] <Megz> linux gui is in general pretty slow
[06:51] <michele> blekos: no, use "sudo -i" instead of root
[06:51] <Moopere> Megz, yep, it shits me to tears
[06:51] <michele> blekos: that will open a root shell for you
[06:51] <dylan_> where can i get a deb for the win32 codecs
[06:51] <Moopere> Megz, Gnome is super slow
[06:51] <_jason> dylan_:  ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/
[06:51] <blekos> thank u
[06:51] <dylan_> _jason, thanks
[06:51] <Jeronimus> moopere - is it possible to make grep snd search only for snd and not for everything containing that ?
[06:51] <Megz> Well, once Xorg supports composite properly, that slowness will be "swept under the rug."
[06:51] <sunshine> what info do you need from
[06:52] <cesarin> Seveas,  now I get this error W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No existe el fichero o el directorio)
[06:52] <sunshine> lsmod | grep snd
[06:52] <Seveas> cesarin, apt-get update
[06:52] <Chii_Chan> Megz according to the definition I have read about trolls.  You are seeming to match it o.O  Once who comes into one area to argue something and backs everything said by facts in order to cause unrest
[06:52] <Moopere> Jeronimus, umm grep $snd^
[06:52] <Chii_Chan> That is a summarized version
[06:52] <cesarin> Seveas,  doing..
[06:53] <procrastinationn> how do i do this Replace user:user with your own user name & user group (usually the same name, in Ubuntu).
[06:53] <Seveas> Megz, true, but it's not slow now
[06:53] <Moopere> Jeronimus, oop
[06:53] <Moopere> Jeronimus, thats not it
[06:53] <Seveas> and Composite afaik is a goal for the next release of X and Ubuntu
[06:53] <cesarin> Seveas,  btw, I had to remove the w32 codecs because they didnt seem to work..., maybe if you give me a hand to install them correctly?
[06:54] <Seveas> how did you install them?
[06:54] <Moopere> sunshine, you got a line that looks like snd-via82xx??
[06:55] <Chii_Chan> Its funny I seem to se no resize bars when I minimize, full screen windows, and when I drag it looks to be a more visual effect similar to cursor trails
[06:55] <Rancorus> I just downloaded chemtool but i haveno idea what to do after havind done "./configure"
[06:55] <Sonny_Wertzik> anyone here upgrade from hoary to breezy lately?
[06:55] <sunshine> this is the only line with that in itlnd_seq,snd_via82xx,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device
[06:55] <Moopere> Sonny_Wertzik, yep, me
[06:55] <Seveas> Rancorus, you throw it away again :)
[06:55] <Sonny_Wertzik> Moopere, was it troble free?
[06:55] <Chii_Chan> Can someone help me out with an error I keep getting when I attempt to install XShipWars?
[06:55] <Seveas> Rancorus, and then you run apt-get install chemtool
[06:56] <Chii_Chan> I would post it in here but it's quite long
[06:56] <Moopere> Sonny_Wertzik, no, I got some dependency problems, had to resolve with apt-get -f
[06:56] <dylan_> ive installed the w32codecs and the totem-xine package but i cannot play movies from apple.com/trailers.  what do i do?
[06:56] <sunshine> there is this line as well #
[06:56] <Seveas> Chii_Chan, you can pastebin it...
[06:56] <sunshine> snd_pcm                78344  5 snd_ymfpci,snd_via82xx,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_os
[06:56] <KHAN> I'm impressed, the ubuntu guys are working, even on a weekend
[06:56] <Chii_Chan> pastebin?
[06:56] <Rancorus> Seveas: It does not work
[06:56] <Sonny_Wertzik> Moopere, did you resolve them easily?
[06:56] <test34> Sonny_Wertzik, I had troubles with breezy with a fresh install (after automatic updates)
[06:56] <sunshine> snd_ymfpci,snd_via82xx,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_o
[06:56] <Seveas> Rancorus, what does not work?
[06:56] <Jeronimus> Rancorus - Usualy its ./configure -> make -> make install . But you better read the README or INSTALL or whatever else manual comes with it
[06:56] <Moopere> Sonny_Wertzik, yep, it was ok, resolved in about 10 minutes
[06:56] <Seveas> Jeronimus, chemtool is in the repos....
[06:56] <abarbaccia> hey all - anybody here use breezy - my flash plugin in firefox doesn't work
[06:57] <sunshine> snd_page_alloc         10120  3 snd_ymfpci,snd_via82xx,snd_pcm
[06:57] <Jeronimus> Seveas - Thats ok, but he didnt ask that
[06:57] <sunshine> snd_mpu401_uart         6784  2 snd_ymfpci,snd_via82xx
[06:57] <Sonny_Wertzik> test34, i was just wondering if i should do a fresh install or just upgrade?
[06:57] <Jeronimus> Seveas - He asked how to compile it
[06:57] <Rancorus> Seveas: Could my repos be outdated or something
[06:57] <_jason> dylan_:  try reconfiguring: dpkg-reconfigure totem
[06:57] <Seveas> Jeronimus, stop trolling again
[06:57] <sunshine> do you want all the line with snd_via82xx
[06:57] <dylan_> _jason, ok hold on...lemme see
[06:57] <Seveas> !tell Rancorus about sources
[06:57] <Moopere> sunshine, yep
[06:57] <ompaul> Sonny_Wertzik, there may be issues between now and October 13th, if you can take the system _maybe_ not working for a little go for it, if you can't don't, it is still a development model
[06:58] <sunshine> snd_via82xx            25792  1
[06:58] <Moopere> sunshine, hopefully one line will start with snd-via82xx
[06:58] <_jason> dylan_:  I do not use totem, but have read that when I was installign w32codecs
[06:58] <KHAN> How can I tell what kernel I am running?
[06:58] <Seveas> KHAN, uname -a
[06:58] <Jeronimus> Seveas - I am trolling in which way?
[06:58] <Moopere> KHAN, uname -a
[06:58] <ompaul> Sonny_Wertzik, s/model/system
[06:58] <sunshine> thsi one start with it snd_via82xx            25792  1
[06:58] <Moopere> sunshine, ok, this is good, so the correct driver is loaded
[06:58] <dylan_> _jason, nope -- nothing.  what else can i do?
[06:58] <dylan_> that didnt seem to help
[06:58] <KHAN> Hey... my nickname is supposed to be Khaaaaaan
[06:58] <sunshine> goog
[06:58] <KHAN> What happened?
[06:58] <sunshine> so what do I do now
[06:58] <Moopere> sunshine, open a command line please, then type alsamixer
[06:58] <Sonny_Wertzik> ompaul, kool i'll wait an extra 2 weeks....but should i do an upgrade or fresh install?
[06:59] <sunshine> it open
[06:59] <Moopere> sunshine, you should see the master to the left
[06:59] <sunshine> yeah is see it
[06:59] <Moopere> sunshine, at the bottom does it say 00 or MM?
[07:00] <sunshine> it said 00
[07:00] <Rancorus> Seveas: thanks it worked
[07:00] <dylan_> _jason, if you dont use totem what do you use?
[07:00] <Moopere> sunshine, right, and the level is at 80 or more?
[07:00] <Chii_Chan> Can someeone help me with my error that I get when I try to install XShipWars?
[07:00] <ompaul> Sonny_Wertzik, [this is a forward looking statement without any optimism]  prepare a CD but if you need it I would be surprised
[07:00] <_jason> dylan_:  mplayer
[07:00] <Chii_Chan> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2514 is the error I get
[07:00] <_jason> dylan_:   try that command with totem-xine instead of totem
[07:01] <Sonny_Wertzik> ompaul, kool just what i needed to know hehe
[07:01] <Sonny_Wertzik> thanks guyz
[07:01] <Moopere> sunshine, press up/down arrow to raise/lower the sound level
[07:01] <dylan_> _jason, nothing
[07:01] <Jeronimus> seveas - ok take care - its your chat i guess
[07:01] <sunshine> it on 84
[07:01] <Moopere> Digitially Imported is just too cool
[07:02] <_jason> dylan_:  don't know then, sorry.  But mplayer is nice you might like it
[07:02] <dylan_> _jason, nah i didnt ... not as much as the totem-xine thingy
[07:02] <Sonny_Wertzik> I love this linux stuff...its come a long way since my last try
[07:02] <dylan_> _jason, do i put the codecs in /usr/lib/win32?
[07:02] <_jason> dylan_:  haven't tried it yet, maybe i'll look at it
[07:02] <Owyhee> anybody installed with a buslogic SCSI host?
[07:03] <Owyhee> I can;t get the drive to be recognized
[07:03] <_jason> dylan_:  I just dpkg -i it and it went in there on its own
[07:03] <Owyhee> get an error: no partitionable media
[07:03] <Moopere> sunshine, ok, press right arrow, make sure that PCM is at 80 or more, keep going right and make sure CD is at 80 and does not have an MM at the bottom
[07:04] <dylan_> _jason, should i try rebooting?
[07:04] <Moopere> sunshine, press ESC key when you done
[07:04] <Sonny_Wertzik> anyone know where to put hdparm commands so the load on boot?
[07:04] <dylan_> Sonny_Wertzik, /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[07:04] <Seveas> no
[07:04] <Seveas> /etc/hdparm.conf
[07:04] <_jason> dylan_:  you can try, search the forums for totem-xine  I am sure other people have isntalled it
[07:04] <dylan_> Seveas, bootmisc.sh works too
[07:04] <Moopere> totem-xine works, totem (gstreamer) don't
[07:04] <Seveas> dylan_, but it's ugly and gets overwritten on updates
[07:05] <sunshine> the pcm still has mm even when i go up the sound level
[07:05] <dylan_> Seveas, how do i get DMA maximised like it is on windows so my burning and reading are much faster?  right now even with dma enabled its sluggish.  should i try hdparm -E # /dev/hdc or what?
[07:05] <Sonny_Wertzik> dylan_, thanks man...hdparm.conf aint cuttin it hehe
[07:05] <Moopere> sunshine, press M
[07:05] <blekos> could u tell me the command for alias?
[07:06] <Moopere> sunshine, that will unmute the PCM sound
[07:06] <Chii_Chan> Can someone please help me out with my error on here? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2514  If you would like I can post the error to you in a private message
[07:06] <dylan_> Sonny_Wertzik, yeah ... just check it every so often
[07:06] <Sonny_Wertzik> dylan_, kool
[07:06] <haja> What is the command for running a ut2004 mod?
[07:06] <cesarin> anyone can give me a hand installing w32codec? the wiki's way doesnt seem to work
[07:06] <hablandocontigo> Hello, can I put a multiverse bug in bugzilla:universe? The bug is that xmame is .86 when .100 is the newest and there have been many versions between .86 and .100.
[07:07] <sunshine> i unmute the psm and esc
[07:07] <Seveas> Chii_Chan, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> not being up to date - is not a bug as far as i know.
[07:07] <Chii_Chan> okey
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> .100 is out finially? gesh .99 was just like a week ago
[07:07] <hablandocontigo> Dr_Willis: where should I report and who should I contact?
[07:07] <dylan_> Seveas, can you help at all with my DMA problem?
[07:08] <hablandocontigo> Dr_Willis: I was searching for a deb of it
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> hablandocontigo,  could see the package maintainer.. but i imagine hes been busy. or perhaps there is no longer a mainter.
[07:08] <Seveas> dylan_, probably not
[07:08] <Chii_Chan> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavail able)
[07:08] <Chii_Chan> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proc ess using it?
[07:08] <Chii_Chan> is what it says to me
[07:08] <Seveas> Chii_Chan, close synaptic
[07:08] <haja> What is the command for running a ut2004 mod?
[07:08] <JaZyLNX> hey guys when i installed breezy i hadn't setup my wifi yet, but now i got it work, but when the machine starts up i always have to activate wlan0. how can i get this process automated for me at boot time?
[07:08] <libben> [19:05]  <libben> anyone has an answer for me? why is my button on my keyboard the one that is left to my BACKSPACE... mouse3 in my quake3 game ?
[07:08] <libben> [19:06]  <libben> and why my console key under escape is KP_downarrow?
[07:08] <sunshine> what do I do now
[07:08] <Chii_Chan> doh >.< didnt see that was open, lol
[07:08] <Tidus> somebody said my name in here earlier.... wonder who it was
[07:08] <Moopere> sunshine, ok now, go to system preferences, sound (unde gnome)
[07:08] <libben> check?
[07:08] <lewion> Tidus, lol
[07:09] <Tidus> JaZyLNX: to activate interfaces at boot time, man interfaces
[07:09] <hablandocontigo> Dr_Willis: that's what I was afraid of, where is the packages maintained stuff on Ubuntu?
[07:09] <homework> Hey can anyone here help me install/download Java
[07:09] <cesarin> homework: I think I can give you a hand
[07:09] <cesarin> breezy or hoary?
[07:09] <homework> hoary
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> hablandocontigo,  could always go to the source - if you MUST have the latest versions. seems 5.10 has .86 also.
[07:09] <sunshine> what do I do now
[07:09] <lewion> just do apt-cache search j2re
[07:09] <lewion> and then install the sun package
[07:09] <sunshine> i've okpen sound
[07:10] <twibbler> so after updating to breezy. I have no xserver ..... been investigating for a while now and not getting anywhere ... think it maybe a font problem from the logs ... anybody any ideas please ...
[07:10] <Moopere> sunshine, have u ticks against enable sound server at startup and sounds for events?
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> twibbler,  what video card?
[07:10] <Chii_Chan> now I got a colorfull error message >.>
[07:10] <hablandocontigo> yeah, I'm on 5.10 actually; my tab button doesn't work for games, that's mostly why I wanted to upgrade
[07:10] <Chii_Chan> colorful*
[07:10] <twibbler> Dr_Willis its and SIS 5513 integrated board ...
[07:10] <sunshine> both are ticked
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> twibbler,  with a update last week - udev had somthing changed. i had to wait about a day and apt-get update/upgrade again - and it fixed it. (had to reboot)
[07:11] <cesarin> homework,  you're following me?
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> that issue had a lot of things broke on me.
[07:11] <ohphracku> yo yo
[07:11] <Moopere> sunshine, right, go to accessories, calculator, press icon - u should hear 'tick' sound
[07:11] <cesarin> Dr_Willis,  yeah the .13 version was f*cked up
[07:12] <twibbler> Dr_Willis did a dist_upgrade on Friday ..
[07:12] <ohphracku> yo procrastination
[07:12] <haja> What is the command for running a ut2004 mod?
[07:12] <Moopere> sunshine, by the way, do you hear drum sound when ubuntu starts?
[07:12] <cesarin> it broked my X too
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> im scared to apt-get upgrade on my laptop right now. :P
[07:12] <cesarin> *lol*
[07:12] <cesarin> coward! :P
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> i want it working for the rest of the day.. will do it next week Lol
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> theres like 100+ packages a day getting updated it seems
[07:12] <Chii_Chan> New more strange error now :/ http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2516
[07:12] <cesarin> yeap, around 50 Meg to update a day
[07:13] <cesarin> sometimes phyton, sometimes udev and kernels
[07:13] <sunshine> where is icon u
[07:13] <sunshine> i've open calculator
[07:13] <Moopere> sunshine, do this: open command line, type "ps -A | grep esd"
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> kernel updates that break things - are scary :P
[07:13] <Moopere> sunshine, did you hear 'tick' type sound when u open calculator?
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> but thats the price i pay for being Leet and using 5.10 perrelease. :P
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> The chicks dig it !
[07:14] <sunshine> this is the result
[07:14] <sunshine>  8297 ?        00:00:00 esd
[07:14] <sunshine>  8301 ?        00:00:00 esd
[07:14] <hablandocontigo> Dr_Willis: if I compile xmame .100 normal on here, what's the worst I can fear? will it conflict with my packaged xmame?
[07:14] <Moopere> sunshine, do you hear drum sound when ubuntu starts?
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> hablandocontigo,  depends on how/where you install it to.
[07:14] <twibbler> Dr_Willis: cesarin: so is there a fix within the system or do I need to do an upgrade .. which is telling me I have nothing to upgrade ?.
[07:14] <sunshine> i dont hear anything when I open the calculator
[07:14] <cesarin> Dr_Willis,  btw, by any chance, I got the file of w32codecs on my hdd, now .. how do I install it?
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> xmame has soo many directories and configs.
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> cesarin,  oh? where id dya get it from?
[07:15] <sunshine> no i dont hear drum sound
[07:15] <AristoMagnus> hi !
[07:15] <cesarin> twibbler,  sometimes it will tell you, you have nothing to upgrade, because by default, a lot of repositories are disabled
[07:15] <AristoMagnus> Which source should I put to have azureus in my apt-get
[07:15] <cesarin> you should enable the other repositories
[07:15] <cesarin> Dr_Willis,  a bittorent site many guys from here told me to get it
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> cesarin,  lol
[07:15] <sunshine> i was wonder is the speaker plugged into the right hole it plugged into the red hole
[07:15] <Moopere> sunshine, ok, well, correct driver is running, alsamixer is set to good sound level, mixer daemon (esd) is running and gnome is set to play system sounds
[07:15] <twibbler> cesarin: where how and which repostiories ?.
[07:15] <AristoMagnus> cesarin: which one
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> cesarin,  paste it to me - let me see. :P
[07:16] <Moopere> sunshine, does your sound work under windows?
[07:16] <cesarin> twibbler,  your synaptic? :(
[07:16] <Moopere> sunshine, sounds like your soundcard or speakers might be not working
[07:16] <twibbler> cesarin: no xwindows ...
[07:16] <cesarin> duuh, let me search my "logs" of firefox, since I Forgot easily with that many stuff I puthere
[07:16] <sunshine> what under windows
[07:16] <twibbler> cesarin so down to actual file ...
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> lol
[07:16] <Sonny_Wertzik> I almost forgot... Does the AMD64 version of Breezy have Flash plugin support yet?
[07:16] <Moopere> sunshine, do you know for sure that your sound card is not broken?
[07:16] <Chii_Chan> in which repository would I find this?  Checking Dependency: X11-lib...
[07:16] <Chii_Chan>     *** Object `libX11.so' not found in defined platform paths! ***
[07:16] <Chii_Chan>     *** Could not find all dependencies for required feature `X11'! ***
[07:17] <AristoMagnus> Sonny_Wertzik: I dont think so..
[07:17] <cesarin> Sonny_Wertzik,  tried installing it many times, failed miserably and broke my firefox :P
[07:17] <Sonny_Wertzik> AristoMagnus, arrrgg...thats what i figured hehe thx
[07:17] <brodo> restarting x
[07:17] <libben> anyone ?
[07:17] <libben> [19:05]  <libben> anyone has an answer for me? why is my button on my keyboard the one that is left to my BACKSPACE... mouse3 in my quake3 game ?
[07:17] <libben> [19:06]  <libben> and why my console key under escape is KP_downarrow?
[07:17] <Seveas> Chii_Chan, install xlibs-dev
[07:17] <Seveas> libben: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.
[07:17] <cesarin> Dr_Willis,  , the url is http://www.giannaros.org/tor/bt/
[07:17] <Moopere> sunshine, you see little speaker in taskbar at top right of gnome screen?
[07:18] <cesarin> I think cafuego  and  other guy told me about that one
[07:18] <Chii_Chan> I am curious... so that I dont have to ask so many stupid questsions in the future >.< How can I find out what packages are found where?
[07:18] <slowmachine> hello room
[07:18] <Sonny_Wertzik> cesarin, i actually got gpflash to work but it doesnt support flash 7...just 5 and 6
[07:18] <AristoMagnus> Sonny_Wertzik: swf-player - SWF (Macromedia Flash) player
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> cesarin,  dpkg -i whatever.deb  perhaps.
[07:18] <cesarin> Sonny_Wertzik,  consider yourself lucky ;P
[07:18] <cesarin> ill try that Dr_Willis
[07:18] <cesarin> but last time I Tried, totem refused to display anything :P
[07:19] <Sonny_Wertzik> cesarin, ya i guess its better than nothin
[07:19] <slowmachine> i need help with a fresh 5.04 install not accessing the floppy, like "no such device /dev/fd0"
[07:19] <Moopere> cesarin, using totem or totem-xine?
[07:19] <cesarin> Moopere,  totem
[07:19] <blekos> is it possible to turn of computer and when open it, -log in again, to have the exact windows & settings again opened?
[07:19] <Moopere> cesarin, have u tried totem-xine?  Works better for most stuff IMHO
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> cesarin,  im not sure what youNEED that file for - ive been watching dvd's and videos in vlc and xine and mplayer without it. I think
[07:19] <cesarin> Moopere,  I would have to download again
[07:20] <blekos> for e.g post it notes, battery settings etc
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> maybe a few i havent been able to play - but i cant think of any
[07:20] <cesarin> Dr_Willis,  I might try VLC too
[07:20] <Moopere> sunshine, you still here?
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> vlc is nice for a lot of tasks. :P
[07:20] <twibbler> cesarin: do you have a list of the brezy repositories please ?....
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> not thebest as a dvd player. but its good over all
[07:20] <cesarin> Dr_Willis,  wich repository you get  VLC or Mplayer from ?
[07:20] <cesarin> twibbler, give me a hand man
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> cesarin,  i forget. :P  i think it was in the normal multiverse
[07:21] <cesarin> twibbler, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto/
[07:21] <kkathman> twibbler I think they are listed on that reference on the channel opening msg
[07:21] <cesarin> Im preesty sure most of the "default" ones you will need are on synaptic
[07:21] <cesarin> kkathman, well said heh :P
[07:21] <cesarin> it may be easy to install stuff on ubuntu
[07:21] <cesarin> but the hard stuff us FIND THEM :P
[07:21] <twibbler> kkathman: cesarian: thank you ..
[07:21] <kkathman> thnkx cesarin
[07:22] <kkathman> a good upgrade site for information :)
[07:22] <Moopere> cesarin, really?  How hard is a search in aptitude or synaptic?
[07:22] <kkathman> I need to upgrade I suppose
[07:22] <kkathman> except I use kubuntu, and it usually lags a bit
[07:22] <cesarin> twibbler,  you might try enabling the non default ones in synaptic, by usual only 1 repository is enabled in breezy
[07:22] <Moopere> cesarin, although I have found some package descriptions leave u wondering
[07:22] <cesarin> Moopere,  search doesnt work if you dont have the correct repository ;)
[07:23] <Moopere> cesarin, ha, true
[07:23] <dylan_> _jason, what was that mirror for the deb of the w32codecs please?  lost it sorry
[07:23] <AristoMagnus> Which source should I put to have azureus in my apt-get
[07:23] <kemik> extras ?
[07:23] <slowmachine> what do i do to access my floppy?
[07:23] <Chii_Chan> Seveas,  Thank you so much for helping me :)  The game is finally installing
[07:23] <kemik> !azureus
[07:23] <ubotu> azureus is, like, a popular bittorent client written in Java, it can be downloaded from the hoary-extras repository
[07:23] <dylan_> slowmachine, mount /dev/fd0
[07:23] <slowmachine> there is no fd0 in /dev
[07:24] <Moopere> slowmachine, thats a weird error, I got that once, but it was a usb floppy
[07:24] <sunshine> it must be the sound card becuase I havew test the speaker and they work
[07:24] <dylan_> slowmachine, then mount /dev/floppy
[07:24] <sunshine> how do I fix the sound card
[07:24] <Moopere> sunshine, yep, might be.  you know we can try one thing more
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> dylan_, http://www.giannaros.org/tor/bt/
[07:24] <cesarin> Dr_Willis,  what other programs for video you recommend? to completent my package
[07:24] <AristoMagnus> !hoary-extras
[07:24] <ubotu> somebody said hoary-extras was see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[07:24] <Moopere> sunshine, if you are sure that you have speaker plugged into correct socket of soundcard
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> cesarin,  i use vlc and xine 99.9% of the time..
[07:25] <cesarin> might try Xine too
[07:25] <slowmachine> no floppy in dev also, but things like /dev/fd/0 /dev/fd/255 and such
[07:25] <Rounin> Hi... I tried Ubuntu a while ago, but I had a few problems with certain programs being very old, like bzflag and I think mplayer... Are there repositories available that use newer packages?
[07:25] <cesarin> Dr_Willis,  I supose its Gxine right? Genome Xine
[07:25] <dylan_> Dr_Willis, i dont want a torretn....i was a direct dl
[07:25] <Rounin> Like, more or less cutting edge
[07:25] <ohphracku> procrastination: hey dude got a question
[07:25] <AristoMagnus> It doesnt work on Breezy
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> dylan_,  ive allready downloaded it in the time it took you to type that. :P lol
[07:26] <dylan_> lol ok
[07:26] <AristoMagnus> !breezy
[07:26] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[07:26] <Moopere> sunshine, go to command line again
[07:26] <AristoMagnus> !breezy-source
[07:26] <ubotu> AristoMagnus: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[07:26] <dylan_> Dr_Willis, time remaining with GNOME bittorrent is 7 mins
[07:26] <Moopere> sunshine, type "killall esd"
[07:26] <cesarin> dylan_,  torrent is preety fast
[07:26] <Moopere> sunshine, ps -A | grep esd
[07:26] <Moopere> sunshine, should show nothing
[07:27] <misfit_toy> the latest breezy update is doing something funky to my external cd/dvd burner, getting scsi errors on boot, then once up I turn it off and back on and it's ok again, weird.
[07:27] <cesarin> Dr_Willis,  you should seed for him :P
[07:27] <Moopere> sunshine, now, aplay /usr/share/sounds/warning.wav
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> cesarin,  lol - i just closed the seed window.. let me reoptn it
[07:27] <cesarin> Dr_Willis,  you're fired! :P
[07:27] <Moopere> sunshine, if u hear nothing I suspect your soundcard is broken
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> there ya go its open
[07:27] <cesarin> note, for dramatic effercts, add the voice of Donald Trump to my words
[07:27] <dylan_> cesarin, where can i get those codeds with a direct dl
[07:28] <slowmachine> how would i create this dang /dev/fd0, sh MAKEDEV doesnt do it
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> cesarin,  never seen that show. :P
[07:28] <ohphracku> procrastinationnation, wake up fool
[07:28] <cesarin> dylan_,  no idea to be honest.
[07:28] <cesarin> but I supose someone from here can send it to you via DCC
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> theres 12 seeders and 10 leechers :P
[07:28] <dylan_> cesarin, thanks
[07:28] <cesarin> there ya go dylan_
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> google for the whole file name..  :P
[07:29] <cesarin> my first linux virus victim :D
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> i was bout to dcc send it to ya. :P but im a seeder.
[07:29] <cesarin> jk lol
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> lol
[07:29] <cesarin> <-- winbloze user , so he doesnt know programing :P
[07:29] <Moopere> sunshine, how u doing?
[07:29] <AristoMagnus> The backport source list doesnt work on Breezy?
[07:30] <cesarin> AristoMagnus,  at your own risk, but many stuff from there seems to work
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> i dont think there is breezy bckport yet.
[07:30] <AristoMagnus> k
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> or so the message boards/forums sort of said.
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> Im still readign through them :P i may be wrong
[07:30] <Chii_Chan> how do I find what I just installed? :/
[07:31] <ompaul> cesarin, #ubuntu-offtopic for the chit chat :)
[07:31] <cesarin> ompaul,  dont be so delicate :(
[07:31] <Moopere> hoary backports come from breezy sources - therefore there won't be a breezy backports until dapper is up
[07:31] <Chii_Chan> I just installed the game but I dont know where it went :(
[07:31] <x_or> Can anyone tell me the difference between suspend and hibernate when I open the log out dialog?
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> one is sleep... other is the deep sleep. :P
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> suspend = to ram.. Hibernate  = to hd., (I think)
[07:32] <Moopere> x_or, suspend is sleep (but machine still on), hibernate is off
[07:32] <x_or> Dr_Willis:  Will one of them cause my harddrive to grow a beard like Rip Van Winkle?
[07:32] <cesarin> with suspend you cant turn of your computer, Ie you will losre your info
[07:32] <Moopere> x_or, haha
[07:32] <cesarin> with invernate you can :D
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> x_or,  thats the next xp virus
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> well bbl. ya all
[07:33] <cesarin> Dr_Willis,  and the w32 codecs finally worked
[07:33] <x_or> So, if I use hibernate, I can unplug the computer, carry it with me, and return to the same state when I turn the computer back on.
[07:33] <x_or> Why would anyone use suspend, anyway?
[07:33] <Moopere> x_or, thats the theory
[07:33] <JaZyLNX> anyone know anything that will play an *.asx stream in linux?
[07:33] <JaZyLNX> i've tried mplayer with no luck
[07:34] <Moopere> x_or, you return to your desktop a lot quicker with suspend
[07:34] <x_or> But, why not just leave the computer running?
[07:34] <x_or> If I unplug it, I lose everything, right?
[07:34] <Moopere> x_or, save power?
[07:34] <x_or> OK.
[07:35] <x_or> So, it saves power, so if you are running on battery, and want to run down the street to a wifi cafe, suspend, and then as long as you turn it back on within the battery life time, you are fine.
[07:35] <cesarin> x_or, usually  hinbernate is used to save your "snapshot" then you can turn off your laptop, and move it elsewhere, like to your hotel, to turn it on again, and restore what you were doing
[07:35] <Moopere> x_or, yep
[07:35] <cesarin> while suspend just turns most basic stuff off to save energy
[07:35] <_jason> JaZyLNX: if you are up for it I used mplayer-plugin for firefox version 3.11yesterdaya nd palyed .asx fine
[07:36] <Moopere> sunshine, ???? U still here?
[07:36] <kemik> mplayer-plugin is the best :)
[07:36] <x_or> I wonder if anyone has done a comparison to see how long a laptop running normally can run under suspend.  Like 2 hours battery life on average when running applications, 4 hours under suspend.
[07:36] <sunshine> sorry i m just eatin
[07:36] <tarawsa33> hello! how allow port for ftp in firestarter?
[07:36] <steely> moopere: i'm trying to use aptitude to install an emulator and can't find it
[07:36] <sunshine> what did you say about fixin the soundcard
[07:36] <kemik> x_or:  try google. im sure someone has
[07:36] <steely> the file is on my desktop
[07:36] <tarawsa33> hello! how allow port for ftp-server in firestarter?
[07:37] <x_or> I wish mplayer-plugin had better support to ignore certain mime types.  I still like to use RealPlayer for RM, but mplayer-plugin seems to grab that as well.
[07:37] <bettong_BOFH> is there any errors that kopete will cause in breezy that i should know about?
[07:37] <x_or> OK, going to suspend now.  Later.
[07:37] <Moopere> sunshine, U can't fix a dead soundcard man, not unless you're a tech type
[07:37] <cesarin> dylan_,  there dude, enjoy
[07:37] <bettong_BOFH> other than the fact tht you will haveto start it with sudo
[07:38] <JaZyLNX> __jason thanks
[07:38] <Moopere> steely, when u do a search, try starting your search line with ~d this will search the description
[07:38] <steely> thanks
[07:38] <Moopere> steely, what r u after?
[07:38] <Hendric> i need to install activex plugin to be able to run some windows programs using wine.. how can i install it?
[07:39] <JaZyLNX> -jason i can only find the one for mozilla not firefox will that do
[07:39] <sunshine> cant i chek if it connected properly inside the cpu
[07:39] <kkathman> Has anyone here upgraded to breezy that is running KDE? I hear that there is a beta out now
[07:39] <sunshine> it might just had came loose
[07:39] <steely> snes9x
[07:39] <steely> hehe
[07:39] <Hendric> i found a site for activex plugin but it ends up with an error
[07:39] <Moopere> sunshine, the via soundcard is going to be part of the motherboard - there will not be any connections I don't think
[07:39] <tarawsa33> How would u set up ftp server?
[07:39] <JaZyLNX> ya it works
[07:39] <JaZyLNX> thanks
[07:40] <_jason> JaZyLNX: I must have been mistaken I just tried playing a random asx stream and it is not working... i think it has problems streaming too
[07:40] <fooboy> How do i get apt-get to download the dependiences aswell
[07:40] <Moopere> sunshine, so long as you are _sure_ you have speaker pulgged into right hole on card everything should work
[07:40] <Hendric> can anyone help me add activeX plugin to my firefox install???
[07:40] <Moopere> sunshine, but maybe sound chip is dead
[07:40] <JaZyLNX> mine says it's buffering now.
[07:40] <JaZyLNX> so ill see how that goes
[07:40] <fooboy> How do i get apt-get to download the dependiences aswell
[07:40] <_jason> JaZyLNX:  let me know if it works
[07:41] <kkathman> fooboy: typically when you try to install, it will check and then tell you what dependencies it needs
[07:41] <sunshine> where is that located
[07:41] <Moopere> steely, I just checked, there is gsnes9 (under breezy) this what you want?
[07:41] <fooboy> so i need to install those dependinceds
[07:41] <RMeist> where is what located:P
[07:41] <JaZyLNX> works like a champ _jason
[07:41] <kkathman> fooboy: usually yes
[07:41] <JaZyLNX> i used this one
[07:41] <kkathman> just apt the dependencies
[07:41] <JaZyLNX> mozilla-mplayer
[07:41] <fooboy> can i not automate the process
[07:41] <_jason> JaZyLNX: can you link me to what you are palying so I cna test mine... maybe its just the site i tried
[07:41] <JaZyLNX> http://www.streamaudio.com/stations/asx/KLIF_AM.asx
[07:41] <dylan_> cesarin, when i tried to install the w32codecs from the deb you gave me it said there was a broken pipe....
[07:41] <dylan_> whaddo i do?
[07:42] <steely> moopere: no
[07:42] <JaZyLNX> took awhile to buffer but
[07:42] <_jason> JaZyLNX:  strange, that one works... must have been the server
[07:43] <Moopere> steely, theres a whole bunch of snes9 stuff xsnes9, zsnes
[07:43] <tarawsa33> pls someone sptep me though setting up an ftp
[07:43] <JaZyLNX> well atleast ya know it's not the machine :)
[07:43] <Da_SWAT> anyone here know the probably release date of breezy? (the official, no preview/beta)
[07:43] <sunshine> im a quick learner if yo just explain bout the sound card inside the cpu i can fix it
[07:43] <JaZyLNX> oct something
[07:43] <_jason> Da_SWAT:  Oct 13
[07:43] <sunshine> please
[07:43] <Moopere> steely, snes9x-x
[07:43] <cesarin> dylan_,  you're not using 64 bit version, are you?
[07:43] <steely> hmm
[07:43] <dylan_> cesarin, no sir
[07:43] <cesarin> dylan_,  wich version then? o_O
[07:43] <Da_SWAT> _jason, thnx :) Now I only need a countdown on my desktop :P
[07:43] <dylan_> cesarin, 32 bit....standard
[07:43] <cesarin> I just installed them a few minutes ago and worked just fine
[07:44] <Atlant^^> give me cedega please
[07:44] <Moopere> sunshine, I doubt you can fix it, the via sound is a chip on the motherboard
[07:44] <dylan_> cesarin, i did sudo dpkg -i
[07:44] <cesarin> dylan_,  so did I
[07:44] <dylan_> cesarin, should i try rebooting er somethin
[07:44] <cesarin> dylan_,  I have no idea man to be honest o_O
[07:44] <cesarin> maybe the file I Sent you was corrupted?
[07:44] <cesarin> dylan_,  did you updated something earlier and forgot to restart?
[07:44] <Moopere> sunshine, you will need an oscilliscope to check the state of the chip - pretty complex stuff
[07:45] <sunshine> is the motherboard the last board at the bottom
[07:45] <dylan_> cesarin, just my hdparm.conf file
[07:45] <cesarin> dylan_,  no idea seriusly, but you can try :/
[07:45] <Moopere> sunshine, the motherboard is the main circuit board for your whole machine
[07:45] <fooboy> it only need me to get a locale update
[07:45] <kemik> sunshine:  there's no soundcard inside your CPU
[07:45] <Atlant^^> help pliz send me cedega for ubuntu 5.10
[07:45] <scaine> Is anyone else having problems accessing the Ubuntuforums page?
[07:45] <denn_> guys! anyone know how to solf "Panel has quit unexpectedly" issue when you log into gnome?
[07:45] <sunshine> that is where is it in the box
[07:45] <cesarin> sunshine,  the "onboard" sound card is usually a smaller chipset on one of the borders of the motherboard
[07:45] <denn_> er
[07:45] <denn_> solve
[07:46] <cesarin> sunshine,  also, you sure you didnt disabled it in your bios?
[07:46] <Moopere> cesarin, aha, good idea, maybe true - though it is showing up under lspci
[07:46] <Cryptid> Help when i try to open Symantec i get a error saying "Unable to get exclusive lock" WHat do i Do please Tell
[07:46] <cesarin> Moopere,  some sound cards do emulate a pci port for compatible purposes
[07:46] <ompaul> +r for a min?
[07:46] <sunshine> how do I check the bios someone said that to me but I didnt not get a chance to ask where the bios was located
[07:47] <cesarin> I had once a VIA cheap motherboard, and it was detected under winblose as a"PCI" based sound card compatible with AW32
[07:47] <fooboy> where can i get win32codecs
[07:47] <kemik> Cryptid: symantec ?
[07:47] <Moopere> cesarin, yes, I know, I just wondered if it would still show up under lspci if disabled in bios?
[07:47] <Cryptid> kemik, yes
[07:47] <Cryptid> Kemik, synaptec sorry
[07:47] <ompaul> Seveas, +r ?
[07:47] <Moopere> hehehe
[07:47] <hosler> whats a good ftp client. gftp doesnt like to work at all.
[07:47] <cesarin> Moopere,  depends quequality of the motherboard, sometimes in MSDOS a disabled card could be still there.. even if winbloze doesnt detect it, ( its like just disabling theplug & play for it in windows )
[07:48] <cesarin> but no idea seriusly
[07:48] <kemik> Cryptid:  make sure you're not running apt/aptitude/synaptic in the background
[07:48] <Moopere> cesarin, ya, true
[07:48] <sunshine> moorpere , cesarin could have a point
[07:48] <cesarin> fooboy,  hold on, let me give you the url
[07:48] <cesarin> sunshine,  just check your bios to see if you have it disabled
[07:48] <sunshine> so tell how do I access the bios
[07:48] <cesarin> and see if it works somewhere else, like in WINDOWS
[07:48] <sunshine> where do I access it
[07:48] <cesarin> sunshine, when you boot your computer, it usually tells you something like "press f2 to enter bios" or "del"
[07:48] <cesarin> depends on your version
[07:49] <Cryptid> kemik, how do i do that it says some other pacage manager may be running (like apt-get etc) so i how do i kill it if it is running
[07:49] <Moopere> sunshine, worth having a look in your bios, but if the module is loaded, and alsa thinks its there, just 'no sound' I'd bet on something bad having happened
[07:49] <kemik> Cryptid:  goto a terminal and do "ps aux | grep synaptic" if you get multiple lines, synaptic is already running
[07:49] <cesarin> also you have to search for "onboard devices" or similar
[07:49] <zblach> hi
[07:49] <sunshine> ok if I come off the computer could ou and moorpere stay on so when I get back on you can help me please
[07:49] <cesarin> fooboy, http://www.giannaros.org/tor/bt/ <-
[07:49] <fooboy> Thanks
[07:49] <cesarin> you have to bitorrent it sadly..
[07:49] <benz190ryda> hello follks
[07:49] <Chii_Chan> how do I give myself permission to write to a file?
[07:49] <zblach> how to access files on a linux server from a windows computer?
[07:50] <_jason> zblach:  use putty, google it
[07:50] <scaine> Anyone struggling to access http://ubuntuforums.org?  I'm getting a "refused" error?
[07:50] <cesarin> zblach,  you need to install a special program to read the linux partitions
[07:50] <Moopere> zblach, samba is your friend
[07:50] <kemik> zblach:  Samba
[07:50] <zblach> _jason, i know putty
[07:50] <cesarin> zblach,  what _jason  said :D
[07:50] <zblach> putty?
[07:50] <sunshine> im goin to reboot the computer now please stay online
[07:50] <zblach> i can access & run stuff, but I can't copy it off
[07:50] <Cryptid> kemik, this is what i got "7358  0.0  0.2   3032   716 pts/1    S+   23:19   0:00 grep synaptic"
[07:50] <cesarin> zblach,  theres other versions..
[07:51] <_jason> zblach: if you want a nice gui use WinSCP
[07:51] <kemik> zblach:  you could use winscp to retrieve files through SSH
[07:51] <cesarin> zblach,  blame windoze for not letting other devices to be hable to read & write :P
[07:51] <zblach> and i know samba, i'm just not sure how to set up my linux folders as shared
[07:51] <Cryptid> kemik, now what do i do how do i get rid of the problem
[07:51] <benz190ryda> has anyone here had problems with java my browser closes as soon as i try to load a page
[07:51] <zblach> cesarin, with my partition setup, i'm having more problems in linux than windows
[07:51] <kemik> Cryptid:  hmm. well synaptic isnt running if that's all you got
[07:52] <cesarin> benz190ryda, you installed FLASH too?
[07:52] <avalost> benz190ryda: what version of java?
[07:52] <hosler> whats a good ftp client. gftp doesnt like to work at all.
[07:52] <benz190ryda> not yet
[07:52] <denn_> i got cups. all other programs print fine but openoffice :(
[07:52] <kemik> Cryptid:  do "ps aux | grep dpkg" and "ps aux | grep apt" and paste result on pastebin
[07:52] <Atlant^^> hosler,  FlashFxp
[07:52] <avalost> gftp has always worked for me..
[07:52] <cesarin> benz190ryda,  In my case, after installing JAVA for 64 bit with FLASH on firefox, it made my firefox DIE every page that contained a flash file..
[07:52] <Atlant^^> Filezilla
[07:52] <Moopere> ubuntuforums is foo
[07:52] <hosler> ok
[07:52] <kemik> zblach:  you specify them in the smb.conf
[07:52] <benz190ryda> i think i will reload mandrake
[07:53] <scaine> Moopere, thanks.  Thought it might just be me.
[07:53] <kemik> benz190ryda:  why? =)
[07:53] <benz190ryda> ubuntu is starting to be a pain
[07:53] <Cryptid> Kemik, this is what i get "7395  0.0  0.2   2904   708 pts/1    R+   23:22   0:00 grep dpkg"
[07:53] <Slarti-> don't do it
[07:53] <Moopere> scaine, np
[07:53] <zblach> kemik, where to find & what format are specifications?
[07:53] <khermans> is ubuntuforums down for everyone else?
[07:53] <cesarin> benz190ryda,  you mean mandriva? mandrake is now extint :P
[07:53] <Moopere> khermans, yep
[07:53] <_jason> yeah ubuntuforums are down for maintenance, they had a notice up a few minutes ago
[07:53] <kemik> zblach:  /etc/samba/smb.conf
[07:53] <khermans> any ETA?
[07:53] <benz190ryda> i use manbdrake on my desktop and i thought ubuntu would be great for my laptop
[07:53] <dylan_> still looking for a decent deb of the w32 codecs
[07:53] <Moopere> mandrake?  u must be joking right?
[07:53] <kemik> zblach:  read the .conf and you'll see how to use it
[07:53] <Slarti-> benz190ryda, the latest mandriva versions are what turned me to ubuntu
[07:53] <_jason> "he forums will be going down in about 15 minutes for updates. 9/25/2005 1:00pm EST" --from the forums
[07:53] <benz190ryda> mandriva yes
[07:53] <fooboy> no
[07:53] <cesarin> and benz190ryda , I recommend you remove the java packages and flash packages, and install one by one, using synaptic
[07:53] <JDahl> benz190ryda, are you using breezy? then you should be more tolerant of its shortcomings
[07:53] <scaine> Missed the notice... just get the "connection refused" now.  I'll check back in the morning.  Later, all.
[07:53] <benz190ryda> ok
[07:53] <khermans> Moopere, know when it will be back up?
[07:54] <benz190ryda> i'll try that
[07:54] <Limited_N> Hello world, anyone get ubuntu working with a bios raid?
[07:54] <Moopere> khermans, 15 minutes apparently
[07:54] <ompaul> benz190ryda, what is it that is annoying you, and maybe take this into #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:54] <cesarin> benz190ryda,  because when I installed them manually, it broke everything, even when I followed the instructions one by one
[07:54] <Cryptid> kemik, i get mutiple lines when i do it for apt. what do i DO
[07:54] <Moopere> Limited_N, whats a bios raid?
[07:54] <kemik> Cryptid: paste on pastebin
[07:54] <kemik> !pastebin
[07:54] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[07:54] <benz190ryda> now if i use synaptic do i still have to make symlinks or is it automatic
[07:54] <ompaul> benz190ryda, its is all managed for you
[07:54] <khermans> Does anyone have the Breezy CD Covers that were posted on the Ubuntuforms?
[07:54] <cesarin> benz190ryda,  mostly automatic
[07:54] <dylan_> _jason, please again what was that one site with the w32codecs deb in it?
[07:55] <cesarin> dylan_,  http://www.giannaros.org/tor/bt/
[07:55] <benz190ryda> ok thanks i'll try that
[07:55] <dylan_> cesarin, not that one
[07:55] <Moopere> khermans, I didn't even find hoary official cd covers
[07:55] <cesarin> the file didnt worked dylan_ ? :/
[07:55] <dylan_> cesarin, no
[07:55] <Chii_Chan> how do I make it so that I can give myself a permission to edit a directory?  Because now that I install the main directory I cant get the permission to copy the files into the game directory
[07:55] <dylan_> cesarin, i need the one jason had
[07:55] <khermans> Moopere, they are pretty nice, but they are for the Preview Release
[07:55] <cesarin> dylan_,  seriusly no idea, I used it  and installed just fine on my system
[07:55] <_jason> dylan_:  ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/
[07:55] <khermans> Moopere, http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A//ubuntuforums.org/gallery/showimage.php%3Fi%3D193&ei=qOM2Q-aiIZq6iwHjpP3eBA&sig2=e53djzygLDEovNuqRHtmVg
[07:55] <dylan_> _jason, thanks an infinity
[07:55] <cesarin> dylan_,  CALL THE PLUMBER! :D
[07:55] <vc> i applied some updates to 5.10. xserver fails and then i'm stuck at "Checking battery state..."
[07:55] <benz190ryda> oh, where does synap install java i dont see the folder as i would if i install manually
[07:55] <_jason> dylan_:  np
[07:56] <Cryptid> Kemik, Please check this out "http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2517"
[07:56] <khermans> Moopere, youll have to wait until the site is back up to see them though
[07:56] <cesarin> benz190ryda,  in its default directory?
[07:56] <zblach> !samba
[07:56] <ubotu> samba is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[07:56] <Moopere> khermans, yep, heh
[07:56] <cesarin> benz190ryda,  when you install them manually, you chose where to install it, since it does NOT CONTAIN the directory structure for ubuntu
[07:56] <benz190ryda> thanks
[07:56] <cesarin> so if you use synaptic, it will be installed where it should be :>
[07:57] <jordz> i got some apt-get problems
[07:57] <kemik> Cryptid:  it means aptitude is running.. that's why you cant run synaptic
[07:57] <kemik> Cryptid:  you can kill aptitude, but i'm not sure it's safe todo so... depends on what it's doing (if it's just idle or in the process of installing)
[07:57] <jordz> i did a apt-get dist-upgrade after a fresh 5.04 install, dependencie problems :(
[07:57] <kemik> Cryptid:  to kill it you could do "sudo killall -9 apt"
[07:57] <Seveas> jordz, put the errors on the pastebin
[07:58] <Moopere> LimitedN1, how are u doing the emotes?
[07:58] <jordz> k
[07:58] <Cryptid> kemik " is it ok to do this, will this cause any harm to my computer
[07:58] <LimitedN1> emotes?
[07:58] <sunshine> moopere what was i mean to enabled i forgo tto ask
[07:58] <avalost> Moopere:  just type /me before something
[07:58] <LimitedN1> you mean the generic actions
[07:58] <Moopere> avalost, cool - thanks
[07:59] <kemik> Cryptid:  as i said.. cant guarantee anything.. it should be safe.. but there are no guarantees
[07:59] <Moopere> LimitedN1, ya
[07:59] <LimitedN1>  " /me hits windows with a +4 bat of emotitude"
[07:59] <csthepoet> hey everyone i just installed ubuntu and i'm wondering if anyone knows where should i go to configure my laptop battery
[07:59] <eagleye> Can anyone tell me how to update my ati 8500 all in wonder card drivers
[07:59] <Cryptid> kemik, it says no process killed now what do i do
[07:59] <kemik> Cryptid:  but you should have  a terminal somewhere running aptitude so you should be able to bring it up and quit it
[07:59] <Moopere> sunshine, enable your onboard (or onchip) audio
[07:59] <Moopere> sunshine, in your bios
[07:59] <kemik> Cryptid:  "sudo kill -9 7009"
[07:59] <JDahl> eagleye, I dont think the binary drivers for Breezy are ready yet
[07:59] <Hendric> How can i upgrade my current FIREFOX to version 1.04 ????
[08:00] <sunshine> ok ill try that is that what it is  call in the bios
[08:00] <eagleye> dont have breezy
[08:00] <avalost> Hendric: 1.0.6 is the most current
[08:00] <Moopere> ha
[08:00] <Hendric> no i need 1.04 for activeX control
[08:00] <csthepoet> any laptop users here?
[08:00] <Moopere> csthepoet, yep
[08:00] <Moopere> dell 1100 inspiron here
[08:00] <Cryptid> kemik, i think its done coz it didnt give ne message
[08:00] <kemik> Cryptid:  try starting synaptic
[08:01] <david_> spaol?
[08:01] <csthepoet> moopere, hey do you know where you can figure your laptop battery on ubuntu
[08:01] <Cryptid> Kemik, thanx a lot it works
[08:01] <cesarin> sunshine,  to be honest, 1.0.7 is already out, I dont know why you want 1.04
[08:01] <avalost> Hendric: i don't know where older ersions of firefox would be
[08:01] <david_> espao?
[08:01] <Seveas> Hendric, 1.0.4 is unsafe
[08:01] <Hendric> i tried installing using firefox-install but the system is still using 1.02
[08:01] <Seveas> !es
[08:01] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:01] <JDahl> eagleye, there are binary ATI drivers in the restricted repository
[08:01] <Cryptid> kemik, can u exaplin what u did and what does the number 7009 indicate
[08:01] <Moopere> csthepoet, I don't know what you mean...figure your laptop battery?
[08:01] <csthepoet> Moopere, yea like to save energy
[08:01] <sunshine> cesarin what are u talkin about
[08:01] <kemik> Cryptid:  if you look at what you posted on pastebin... youll see those numbers.. they're the PID (Process ID)
[08:02] <Hendric> its ok Seveas, i just need to run some games which requires mozilla-activeX control...
[08:02] <sunshine> i didnot ask for 1.07 or 104
[08:02] <cesarin> sunshine,  wrong person sorry
[08:02] <sunshine> ok
[08:02] <sunshine> confusing me
[08:02] <Moopere> csthepoet, oh, ok - Umm,
[08:02] <Moopere> csthepoet, let me look
[08:02] <Seveas> Hendric, then use windows...
[08:02] <Cryptid> kemik, u mean that if the process name dosent work then use the process ID to kill it
[08:02] <vbgunz> hello everyone!
[08:02] <kemik> Cryptid:  try running "ps aux" and it will list all process running...
[08:02] <Seveas> or get an updated actieX thing
[08:02] <kemik> Cryptid:  sort of yes
[08:02] <cesarin> well gonna shower, later all!
[08:02] <Chii_Chan> how do I give myself permissions to copy to a file in the gui?
[08:03] <kemik> Cryptid:  try "man kill" "man ps" and "man grep"
[08:03] <Chii_Chan> I cant figure out how to use the cp command >.<
[08:03] <vbgunz> Chii_Chan: sudo cp file to file?
[08:03] <Moopere> csthepoet, Umm, I'm not sure you can do it - I can power down screen from screen saver config
[08:04] <Cryptid> kemik, thanx man for all the help do u know what was that process trying to do, was it updating my com without my knowledge or something coz i reinstalled ubuntu jus now
[08:04] <kemik> Cryptid:  the man-pages contain alot of information.. it takes a while to get used to "reading" them.. but if you learn to use them, you've come a long way to be a linux-pro ;)
[08:04] <csthepoet> Moopere, what do you mean?
[08:04] <Chii_Chan> chii@Chobit:~/Desktop/xsw-2.4.4$ sudo cp etc usr/share/games/xshipwars
[08:04] <Chii_Chan> sudo: cannot get working directory
[08:04] <Chii_Chan> cp: cannot stat `etc': No such file or directory
[08:04] <ouroboros> Hey everyone, just a silly question: I'm tried to chmod 777 my USB drive, and it seems it never works. Is there a reason why the permissions won't lock up?
[08:04] <Moopere> csthepoet, from thadvanced screen saver configuratrion I can power the screen off after some minutes, but not the whole machine
[08:04] <Seveas> ouroboros, because it's fat or ntfs
[08:04] <Hendric> Seveas, I wanna use linux... d only thing thats keeping me from playing online games is because i can't get mozilla activeX to work
[08:05] <Seveas> fat and ntfs don't understand permissions
[08:05] <ouroboros> I see, there's no way around this?
[08:05] <vbgunz> Chii_Chan: sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst_backup
[08:05] <kemik> Cryptid:  well, from the ps output, it seemed to be installing "ubuntu-desktop" but it could have completed, or malfunctioned... i really cant say
[08:05] <csthepoet> Moopere, what about the screen brightness?
[08:05] <Seveas> Hendric, then get an updated activeX thing...
[08:05] <Hendric> the latest activeX is for 1.04 only
[08:05] <vbgunz> Chii_Chan: Ubuntu is extremely case sensitive unlike Windows
[08:05] <Chii_Chan> ah ok so I have to include the full file path for each part?
[08:05] <Moopere> csthepoet, screen brightness on my dell is by function key
[08:05] <Chii_Chan> I noticed
[08:05] <ouroboros> It's my largest hard drive, I keep pictures, files, everything on that and I wanted to use it as a network share - but it appears that's not possible.
[08:05] <vbgunz> yes
[08:05] <Hendric> that's why im asking on how to install it over my old firefox
[08:05] <kemik> vbgunz:  all linuxdistros are afaik :)
[08:06] <jrattner1> is there a limewire howto
[08:06] <jrattner1> ?
[08:06] <Chii_Chan> spent about 5 min trying cd desktop,... then realized I had to do cd Desktop, hehe
[08:06] <kemik> !limewire
[08:06] <ubotu> limewire is probably at http://ubuntuguide.org/#limewire ; or for a gtk-based P2P client that runs on the Gnutella network, try gtk-gnuttela
[08:06] <majikstreet> anyone know how to turn on mod_rewrite on ubuntu's apache?
[08:06] <Seveas> !forget limewire
[08:06] <ubotu> i forgot limewire, Seveas
[08:06] <Seveas> stupid ubuntuguide crud
[08:06] <jossu> #kinahmo
[08:06] <vbgunz> kemik: I found that out when some commands didn't work for me... I like the case sensitivity now ;)
[08:06] <csthepoet> Moopere, hmm that's strange so their isn't really a place on ubuntu to control your power save settings or even low batter alerts and such
[08:06] <kemik> yea the case-sensitivity is actually a good thing imo
[08:07] <ouroboros> Seveas: Should this work? : http://ubit.buffalo.edu/linux/ublinux4/samba.php
[08:07] <benz190ryda> oh one more thing wich javav pak should i use
[08:07] <Moopere> csthepoet, low battery alerts is right click on the battery meter on taskbar
[08:07] <majikstreet> anyone know how to turn on mod_rewrite on ubuntu's apache?
[08:07] <str8edge> hi!
[08:07] <Seveas> majikstreet, RewriteEngine on
[08:07] <majikstreet> in what file?
[08:07] <[t0rc] > I've created a 10gb FAT32 partition. It shows up in windows, but ubuntu doesn't detect it. How can I get it to show
[08:07] <[t0rc] > ?
[08:08] <Seveas> .htaccess, apache config, vhost, whatever
[08:08] <majikstreet> *duh* thanks
[08:08] <Seveas> anywhere apache understands it
[08:08] <majikstreet> i'll do that in my vhost
[08:08] <Moopere> csthepoet, right click on battery meter, then preferences
[08:08] <str8edge> does anyone have any experience with a British Telecom BT voyager 105 USB ADSL modem and Ubuntu
[08:08] <majikstreet> thanks Seveas
[08:08] <Seveas> maybe you need an a2enmod rewrite
[08:08] <Seveas> (in the shell)
[08:08] <vbgunz> anyone here successfully transfer a Thunderbird profile from Windows XP over to Ubuntu?
[08:08] <csthepoet> Moopere, yea i tried that but i was looking for something to control energy save so when i go somewhere i can get the best out of my battery
[08:09] <str8edge> vbgunz: yup
[08:09] <vbgunz> I've been taking my time migrating... Thunderbird I need to get over
[08:09] <kemik> !tell [t0rc]  about ntfs
[08:09] <str8edge> vbgunz: export everything, then import it.
[08:09] <Moopere> csthepoet, apparently acpi support will respond to 'events' so, if you shut the lid of your notebook it should hibernate or something
[08:09] <[t0rc] > thnx kemik
[08:09] <vbgunz> stre8edge: ok
[08:10] <vbgunz> I'll try...
[08:10] <vbgunz> damn I have to logout
[08:10] <zachman123> I'm having trouble installing ubuntu(5.04 and 5.10, shipit cd's AND home-burnt) on my system.  When the install tries to load files from the cd, it's able to read some files, but then stops on a random one and says "Error reading cdrom media" or something similar.
[08:10] <str8edge> vbgunz: you could also set up a local imap server...
[08:10] <Moopere> csthepoet,  screen brightness and stuff when on battery comapared to AC power is controlled by bios on my machine
[08:10] <zachman123> My drive is a BenQ DW 1640
[08:10] <carrarro> Anyone knows how to configure a wirless router?
[08:10] <ouroboros> Is there a way I can change the /etc/fstabs to make this FAT USB drive fully accessible to all, for Samba purposes? : /dev/sda        /media/usb0     auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[08:11] <kemik> zachman123:  try with another CD or another CD-rom
[08:11] <Moopere> zachman123, I've seen this before on drives that don't properly support DMA transfers
[08:11] <vbgunz> str8edge: it's actually my worries I am worried about... I cannot imagine doing them again... I have about 16 main filters and some of them have over a 1000 items each...
[08:11] <Moopere> zachman123, turn off udma in your bios
[08:11] <str8edge> ouroboros: you can add a umask, or set the gid "man smb.conf"
[08:11] <vbgunz> my filters*
[08:12] <str8edge> vbgunz: thats hy i switched to running my own mailserver : www.hula-project.org
[08:12] <csthepoet> Moopere, have you ever used windows on your laptop?
[08:12] <zachman123> I'll try that moopere, thanks
[08:12] <Moopere> csthepoet, yep, got XP on here
[08:12] <vbgunz> carrarro: whats up with your wireless router? Is your wireless card picking the router up? If so maybe login to the router from your browser?
[08:12] <sunshine> moorpere
[08:12] <Moopere> sunshine, hello
[08:12] <flogiston> Hi. I just downloaded the ut2k4 demo. It's a .run file. How do i run the game? ./file.run doesn't work....
[08:12] <str8edge> is anyone from the uk here?
[08:12] <krisp> hiya guys - I have a realtek 8028 that ubuntu isn't picking up - I'm a right nooB - just wondierng if anone had any ideas?
[08:12] <vbgunz> str8edge: thanks, will check that out!
[08:12] <linner> !seen nalioth
[08:12] <ubotu> nalioth <n=Apple@pdpc/supporter/bronze/nalioth> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 1d 12h 7m 21s ago, saying: 'the storm decided lousiana was more tempting'.
[08:12] <sunshine> well i enable something with in something
[08:13] <krisp> any thoughts?
[08:13] <Moopere> krisp, whats a realtek 8028
[08:13] <kemik> flogiston:  try chmod +x thefile.run  and then try ./....
[08:13] <krisp> network adapter
[08:13] <joel_pe> hi all
[08:13] <joel_pe> well
[08:13] <krisp> Moopere: as I said - I'm a right nooB
[08:13] <carrarro> yes, I can activate the device, but I can't browse the web with it
[08:13] <csthepoet> Moopere, well you know how on XP you can control your battery like for example when your battery is up to 50% it lowers the screen brightness and the system does take up alot of enery as before
[08:13] <aleman> hello everyone
[08:13] <joel_pe> i'm having a problem
[08:13] <str8edge> is anyone from the United Kingdom here?
[08:13] <krisp> str8edge: I am
[08:13] <m0biu5> does anyone know of an IDE for C++
[08:13] <str8edge> krisp: who is your isp?
[08:13] <krisp> BT
[08:13] <vbgunz> carrarro:  do you have a wep key you need to configure?
[08:14] <Moopere> krisp, try ne2kpci
[08:14] <linner> hey ya'll.... where do I find the settings for a laptop so that why I close my laptop lid, it goes into a standby mode?
[08:14] <flogiston> Kemik: somethings happening atleast
[08:14] <joel_pe> i just installed hoary in a laptop and i can't play songs
[08:14] <krisp> what?
[08:14] <str8edge> krisp: what type of modem do you have?
[08:14] <krisp> I don't know how to do it Moopere
[08:14] <aleman> Do you know how to get the w32codecs in the new breezy?
[08:14] <joel_pe> its says the device is busy
[08:14] <Chii_Chan> cp: omitting directory `/etc/    this means it did not copy the directory right?
[08:14] <krisp> str8edge: Netgear 834dg router
[08:14] <m0biu5> joel_pe, what kind of laptop?
[08:14] <Arkainium> is 500MB to small for /var?  I just got an error during install that there's no more room.
[08:14] <krisp> will go and explore some more
[08:14] <carrarro> I do, and I think that I typed it correctly on the fields when I clicked on the propertires of the divice before activating it
[08:14] <Arkainium> too*
[08:14] <sunshine> what am goin to do now
[08:14] <joel_pe> a sony vios
[08:15] <ouroboros> str8edge, I have it setup already, at least I think I do
[08:15] <Moopere> csthepoet, oh, ok, I've not tried that under XP, in fact, I'm not sure that I can with my Dell - you sure thats not a special program for your laptop from the vendor?
[08:15] <ouroboros> str8edge, the entry I put in smb.conf is [BUSLINK] 
[08:15] <ouroboros> path = /media/BUSLINK
[08:15] <ouroboros> comment = Big dude
[08:15] <ouroboros> available = yes
[08:15] <ouroboros> browseable = yes
[08:15] <ouroboros> public = yes
[08:15] <ouroboros> writable = yes
[08:15] <ouroboros> ack
[08:15] <kemik> NO PASTING
[08:15] <kemik> :>
[08:15] <csthepoet> Moopere, hmm actually to tell you the truth i don't know cause i own a toshiba
[08:15] <Seveas> NEVER paste in here
[08:15] <Moopere> krisp, modprobe ne2k-pci from the command line
[08:15] <vbgunz> chii_chan: jnot sure
[08:15] <[t0rc] > do ubuntu packages work in kubuntu?
[08:15] <str8edge> krisp: i'm at my relatives place, they have a usb voyager 105..
[08:15] <Seveas> [t0rc] , of course
[08:15] <aleman> Do you know how to get the w32codecs in the new breezy, anyone?
[08:15] <joel_pe> i can play songs with xine but i can't with xmms or play command
[08:15] <Seveas> ubuntu and kubuntu are the same distro
[08:15] <str8edge> i need to know if it works with linux.
[08:15] <[t0rc] > Seveas: alright, just making sure.
[08:16] <Chii_Chan> sudo cp /etc/ //usr/share/games/xshipwars
[08:16] <Chii_Chan>   would be the correct command no?
[08:16] <Moopere> csthepoet, might be a special toshiba thing - have a look around synaptic, there are some special toshiba tools available (I think)
[08:16] <Arkainium> so why would 500MB be too small for /var?
[08:16] <Seveas> chii, it would be one of the worst commands to do
[08:16] <m0biu5> try messing with the multimedia systems stuff joel_pe
[08:16] <vbgunz> Chii_Chan: not sure, maybe a wildcard if Ubuntu supports them like *
[08:16] <vbgunz> I never tried copying a directory before
[08:16] <Brunellus> is ndiswrapper on the hoary install cd?
[08:17] <Moopere> sunshine, what did you turn on in your bios?
[08:17] <str8edge> vbgunz: use cp -a
[08:17] <Chii_Chan> then how would I unzip the file directly ?
[08:17] <Chii_Chan> Because I need "permissions" to do so
[08:17] <csthepoet> Moopere, yea i just did i'm sure that i can configure my battery here i just need to keep exploring
[08:17] <vbgunz> st8edge cp -a will copy a directory?
[08:17] <linner> Seveas, where do I find the settings for a laptop so that why I close my laptop lid, it goes into a standby mode?
[08:17] <sunshine> the on plug
[08:17] <str8edge> vbgunz: you need to include the source an desktinations, but it will.
[08:17] <Seveas> linner, /etc/acpi/
[08:17] <Arkainium> linner, /etc/acpi/events
[08:17] <Chii_Chan> so what would I do? >.<
[08:17] <sunshine> i need my music
[08:18] <linner> thank you :)
[08:18] <Chii_Chan> Should I try to unzip the file?
[08:18] <krisp> Moopere: eroor inserting
[08:18] <Brunellus> is ndiswrapper on the hoary install cid?
[08:18] <str8edge> vbgunz: cp -a /etc/apache /root/apache.backup/ for example
[08:18] <linner> is it a file I need to modify?
[08:18] <krisp> operation not permitted ?
[08:18] <sunshine> i enabled all the on plug usb
[08:18] <str8edge> i'm outta here..
[08:18] <vbgunz> st8edge: so sudo cp cp -a /etc /home/sysadmin/etc
[08:18] <Arkainium> lol
[08:18] <Chii_Chan> netsplit?
[08:18] <Moopere> krisp, ok - I was just guessing, a lot of realtek NIC's are supported by ne2k-pci
[08:18] <Seveas> yeah
[08:18] <Atlant^^> PIDaRJOOOO
[08:18] <Zoohouse> Chii_Chan, looks like one :)
[08:18] <krisp> Moopere: any idea what I should do?
[08:19] <krisp> I'm very very stuck
[08:19] <vbgunz> "sudo cp -a /etc /home/sysadmin/etc" OR "sudo cp -a /etc/* /home/sysadmin/etc/*" OR?
[08:19] <Moopere> krisp, this a old card or onboard?
[08:19] <Brunellus> is ndiswrapper on the hoary install cd?
[08:19] <dani_> anyone spanish?
[08:19] <krisp> oldish card
[08:19] <Chii_Chan> why does it keep ommiting the directory I want to copy!!  >.<
[08:19] <Moopere> 8028 huh?, let me look
[08:19] <csthepoet> what just happend with all those people
[08:19] <krisp> i think it is
[08:19] <Seveas> csthepoet, a server crashed
[08:19] <krisp> that's what ist says in the 'device manager'
[08:20] <dani_> hay alguien espaol?
[08:20] <linner> netsplits still are around?
[08:20] <csthepoet> Seveas, and we're the survivors ey? haha
[08:20] <Moopere> krisp, do an lspci | grep network
[08:20] <Arkainium> about how much space would be fine for /var on a desktop system?  not planning to run any services besides the bare min.
[08:20] <ken_> Hello everyone!
[08:20] <Brunellus> dani_, preguntales en ubuntu-es
[08:20] <Brunellus> este
[08:20] <csthepoet> ken_, hey
[08:20] <linner> dani, english only please
[08:20] <Brunellus> #ubuntu-es
[08:20] <linner> thank you
[08:20] <sunshine> moopere what am i suppos eto do
[08:20] <krisp> it echoed nothing
[08:20] <Moopere> sunshine, I ask you - what did you turn on in your biois?
[08:20] <ken_> I am new to Ubuntu and want to change to a new theme that is not in the list of installed themes.
[08:21] <dani_> i speak english very bad
[08:21] <Moopere> krisp, sorry, try lspci | grep Eth
[08:21] <vbgunz> Chii_Chan: this just worked for me "sudo cp -a /boot/grub /home/sysadmin/grub"
[08:21] <sunshine> the on plug usb
[08:21] <Brunellus> dani_, connctate al #ubuntu-es
[08:21] <linner> Seveas, ok... I see a bunch of files... and most of them are for specify laptops... i.e. ibm, toshiba, etc.  nothing for a compaq
[08:21] <dani_> this is a chat for study ubuntu?
[08:21] <Moopere> sunshine, ok - nothing to do with sound I don't think.  My suggestion is to buy/borrow another sound card, I think your motherboard sound is dead
[08:22] <krisp> Ethernet controlled - realtek bla bla bla - Unknown device 8028
[08:22] <ken_> I have gone to gnme.org and found lists and wanted to know what exactly am I looking for for a complete theme.. should I chosse theme/ style?
[08:22] <vbgunz> str8edge: not sure I needed the -a for cp but it did work, thanks for teaching me that
[08:22] <krisp> Moopere: any fyurther ideas
[08:22] <krisp> ?
[08:22] <sunshine> ahhh it was workin before I came on ubuntu
[08:22] <Seveas> linner, /etc/acpi/events (as someone else pointed out
[08:22] <krisp> Moopere: ?
[08:23] <Arkainium> linner, there should be a generic lidbtn
[08:23] <ormandj> why do you ask dradul
[08:23] <vbgunz> ken_: I'll tell you... being new to Linux I cannot believe how sexy Ubuntu can be once you theme it
[08:23] <sunshine> could the chane of operating system cause this
[08:23] <Seveas> dani_, this chat is for questions and discussions about ubuntu
[08:23] <Bad_Magic> netsplit
[08:23] <Bad_Magic> yay
[08:23] <jrattner1> What package is JAVA in synaptic
[08:23] <linner> another split?
[08:23] <linner> geez
[08:23] <vbgunz> whats happeneing?
[08:23] <Seveas> dani_, this chat is for questions and discussions about ubuntu
[08:23] <ormandj> dradul: why do you ask about that?
[08:23] <Moopere> krisp, oh
[08:23] <linner> vbgunz, it's a netsplit
[08:23] <P229> is there a repository that has the gstreamer-mad plugin for 5.10?
[08:23] <Seveas> weeeeeeeee :)
[08:23] <dradul> ormandj. Well, could be the same problem. For some reason, I cannot use IMAP4rev1 in such setup. But the IMAP driver works fine. Try that.
[08:23] <jrattner1> What package is JAVA in synaptic
[08:23] <vbgunz> linnner: what is that
[08:23] <ken_> can you help me get a good theme installed?? vbgunz???
[08:23] <linner> Seveas, hehhehe
[08:23] <Bad_Magic> anyone know how to allow kernel updates when i have a hacked up copy of ndiswrapper installed?
[08:23] <twibbler> If at last I have managed to fix the xserver on the breezy upgrade... by defining the fixed font ... who do I let know what the bug was ..
[08:23] <Seveas> split splat splitterdesplat
[08:23] -dmwaters(i=dmwaters@freenode/staff/gentoo.dmwaters)- {global notice}  Hi all! this was all my fault, I went to jupe a smaller server, and accidently juped  the hub... I apologize for this, and thank you for using freenode!
[08:23] <ormandj> dradul: ok let me blow away the .evolution again then give it a go
[08:23] <linner> i found it
[08:23] <Moopere> krisp, oh, I remember having this problem.  Has this card worked in your machine before?
[08:23] <linner> Arkainium, so what do I do with it?
[08:23] <Seveas> ohh, and backlog floods
[08:23] <ken_> I follow direction well and somewhat famillar with some of this stuff
[08:23] <vbgunz> Ken_ between gnome.org and gnomelook.org are the two places I went too for messing around
[08:24] <krisp> not in the ubuntu machine
[08:24] <ormandj> uhm, don't you have to type out both full servernames for juping?
[08:24] <ormandj> kinda hard to dick that up :P
[08:24] <[t0rc] > lol
[08:24] <krisp> the ubuntu machine is just one I found, wiped and installed ubuntu on
[08:24] <vbgunz> gnome-look.org sorry
[08:24] <sudonim> is there software in the repositories for use with a TV card?
[08:24] <Arkainium> linner, well, normally it runs the lid.sh script whenever it receives the event.  try changing it so that it runs sleep.sh instead.\
[08:24] <Moopere> The problem, as I recall is that you actually have an 8029, but the PCI bus is incorrectly iding it as an 8028 (there is no such card)
[08:24] <P229> sudonim: look for mythtv
[08:24] <ripgut> guys can someone help me get java installed
[08:25] <krisp> Moopere: ah right
[08:25] <sunshine> moopere
[08:25] <krisp> any ideas?
[08:25] <Moopere> krisp, I had this problem with an old BX board
[08:25] <Seveas> !tell ripgut about java
[08:25] <joel_pe> i can't play songssss
[08:25] <krisp> Moopere: it is quite an old board
[08:25] <vbgunz> ken_ what part of installing themes are you messing up at?
[08:25] <krisp> will try another card then
[08:25] <Moopere> yep  - I had this problem twice - once I got it working by changing the slot
[08:25] <Bad_Magic> how can i check what modules are currently loaded?
[08:25] <krisp> would that be the easiest solution?
[08:25] <[t0rc] > !ubotu
[08:25] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:25] <krisp> oh
[08:25] <krisp> the slot
[08:25] <krisp> will try
[08:25] <sudonim> P229 - isnt mythtv a little bloaty if I am just trying to do TV viewing?
[08:25] <krisp> back in a bit
[08:26] <linner> Arkainium, it won't let me edit it ... it's read only
[08:26] <sunshine> moorpere
[08:26] <linner> Arkainium, how do I edit these files?
[08:26] <Moopere> krisp, the 2nd machine I never got it working - the odd thing is that the cards and the motherboard werev both fine, just wouldn't work vtogether
[08:26] <ken_> basically, when it asks to browse for the theme to install in Ubuntu Im not sure what file or file format to choose to get the deal installed.
[08:26] <P229> sudonim: I don't know, I've never used a tv card /me shrugs
[08:26] <Arkainium> linner, you need root priv.  so use sudo
[08:26] <vc> is anyone running nvidia-glx on 5.10?
[08:26] <ormandj> dradul, i think it broke my mailbox using that rev1 stuff
[08:26] <linner> Arkainium, ok... type that in terminal?
[08:26] <P229> vc: yep, just installed it a minute ago
[08:26] <ormandj> now there is a bunch of extra folders etc.
[08:26] <P229> vc: works great
[08:26] <Moopere> sunshine, hey
[08:26] <vc> P229: have you upgraded the kernel?
[08:27] <Arkainium> linner, yea, sudo faveditor /etc/acpi/events/lidbtn
[08:27] <vc> P229: i did and i'm having xserver issues.
[08:27] <P229> vc: I upgraded to the latest kernel before installing nvidia-glx
[08:27] <linner> ok thank you - let me give it a shot
[08:27] <Bad_Magic> anyone have any idea why im getting this error message? FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[08:27] <ormandj> anybody else had problems with evolution and IMAP4rev1? i can see mail in sent folder but not in the inbox, although if i right click on inbox it will show there are messages inside of it....
[08:27] <Lie-Algebra> hi, I am wondering how its possible that any screenshot  taken from a video, which is not displayed correctly (red lines on the screen), doesnt render these red lines ? According to these screenshots, my video is displayed perfectly but its not.. any idea?
[08:27] <vbgunz> ken_ when you download a tar file from gnome-look you can either browse to it OR just drag and drop that tar file over onto the theme manager
[08:27] <P229> vc: ...just did a clean install this morning
[08:27] <ken_> ok
[08:27] <ken_> Ill try that
[08:28] <vbgunz> ken_: cool
[08:28] <linner> Arkainium, when it comes up, it's empty.................????
[08:28] <Chii_Chan> this is not working for me :/
[08:28] <Chii_Chan> chii@Chobit:~/Desktop/etc$ sudo cp -a /etc/ //usr/share/games/xshipwars/
[08:28] <ken_> how do you get your answer to show in colors to me???
[08:28] <vc> P229: you're running 2.6.12-9?
[08:28] <vbgunz> I am telling you it's easy to master and when you do... we'll technically you'll be a master too ;)
[08:28] <ken_> vbgunz_  like this??
[08:28] <Seveas> Chii_Chan, you don't want to do that either
[08:28] <Arkainium> linner, you may be openning a new file.  did you type it correctly?
[08:28] <Seveas> it's just stupid
[08:28] <mxpxpod> is there a guide to getting a nvidia geforce2 mx200 working under ubuntu?
[08:28] <sunshine> i enabled the on plug usb what do I need to do now
[08:28] <P229> vc: 386, yes
[08:28] <ken_> I am very new to this.. sorry,, have  patients..
[08:28] <Chii_Chan> I know.... it just copied a whole long list of fils I dont need to there
[08:28] <Moopere> mxpxpod, wart, hoary or breezy?
[08:28] <vc> P229: ok, i'll reinstall
[08:29] <Chii_Chan> and I cant figure out how to delete them now
[08:29] <mxpxpod> Moopere: breezy
[08:29] <ripgut> so even if i have the java .bin file on my desktop i still cant install it?
[08:29] <dylan_> is there a free alternative to VMware in linux?
[08:29] <vbgunz> dylan_: search QEMU
[08:29] <dylan_> vbgunz, QEMU
[08:29] <ken_> what theme/style should I choose??  GTK? or what kind will work in Ubuntu?
[08:29] <dylan_> ?
[08:29] <Moopere> mxpxpod, you have a legacy card (I have this problem too), you need legacy restricted driver (see synaptic)
[08:29] <Kyral> anyone know how I am supposed to sign the Ubuntu Code Of Conduct on Launchpad?
[08:29] <vbgunz> thats one... I heard there are others
[08:29] <Bad_Magic> where are system messsages stored?
[08:29] <P229> Chii_Chan: man rm
[08:29] <vbgunz> I love vmware though
[08:29] <P229> Bad_Magic: /var/log/messages
[08:30] <bastijn> alloa
[08:30] <ernie> #c++
[08:30] <dcDuncan> Buenas
[08:30] <mxpxpod> Moopere: I tried installing it, but X keeps complaining that it can't load the module
[08:30] <sunshine> could you explain to me about why the scs is unsupported
[08:30] <NSK> hola
[08:30] <ormandj> wow evolution crashed gnome
[08:30] <P229> what's the story with "marillat?"
[08:30] <dcDuncan> Alguien habla espaol?
[08:30] <ormandj> i can't switch vwindows
[08:30] <sunshine> or how to make it supported the scsi
[08:30] <bastijn> can some1 please send me his repos file???
[08:30] <Moopere> mxpxpod, ya, its because the latest nivida driver does not support <gf3
[08:30] <ormandj> can't select programs etc
[08:30] <vbgunz> ken_: this is really faint but Gnome themes are broken down... They come in pieces like GTK... Metacity, etc
[08:30] <bastijn> can some1 please send me his repos file???
[08:30] <Kyral> dcDuncan, #ubuntu_es
[08:30] <dcDuncan> Ok. :D
[08:31] <mxpxpod> Moopere: I installed the legacy driver
[08:31] <Arkainium> linner, when I played around with the lidbtn though, I couldn't get it to sleep on my laptop.  I use the powerbtn instead.
[08:31] <ken_> ok   ty
[08:31] <dcDuncan> No hay nadie en #ubuntu_es
[08:31] <linner> Arkainium, what's the difference between the script lid.sh and sleep.sh?
[08:31] <Chii_Chan> is there a way so that I can work in my gui as root?
[08:31] <linner> oh ok.
[08:32] <ripgut> man can anyone answer my question?
[08:32] <Chii_Chan> Im getting annoyed by the console atm >.<
[08:32] <Da_SWAT> I have a dual screen setup. How can I see which screen I'm working on? (and what's it's 'name' is? Example ati0 or something)
[08:32] <Moopere> sunshine, you don't have scsi support because you don't have a scsi card
[08:32] <ripgut> everytime i come in here i get ignored
[08:32] <Bad_Magic> anyone have any idea why im getting this error message? FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[08:32] <zachman121> I tried disabling udma and setup is still getting stuck... usually on e2fprogsomething
[08:32] <Moopere> mxpxpod, oh, ok.  whats the driver called?  Its not nvidia or nv
[08:32] <Da_SWAT> Chii_Chan, why?
[08:32] <Arkainium> linner, open them up and see for yourself.  :)  by default lid.sh locks the screen and sleep.sh puts the laptop to sleep if it's enabled.
[08:32] <Blissex> Da_SWAT: depends on your window manager or desktop environment...
[08:32] <mxpxpod> Moopere: I installed nvidia-glx-legacy, linux-modules-restricted-*-nvidia-legacy
[08:32] <ripgut> hello?
[08:32] <dcDuncan> I need Ubuntu dvd.
[08:32] <Bad_Magic> yes ripgut
[08:32] <Da_SWAT> Blissex, Xorg/Fluxbox
[08:32] <Bad_Magic> ..
[08:32] <Chii_Chan> because I need to alter a file to copy some stuff in there and cp is giving me a hell of a hard time
[08:33] <ripgut> can someone help me install java
[08:33] <Blissex> Da_SWAT: but a simple way is to start a program with an explicit screen indication and see which one it pops it up on.
[08:33] <Bad_Magic> !java
[08:33] <ubotu> To install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java or, for Sun's Java, ask me about !sunjava
[08:33] <Chii_Chan> but the directory will only work if I do sudo or something to give me the permission
[08:33] <ripgut> i dont know those instruction i need help with them
[08:33] <zachman121> any idea?
[08:33] <Blissex> Da_SWAT: so try something like 'xeyes -display :0.1'
[08:33] <sunshine> but when I di a search it just said they were unsupported
[08:33] <Bad_Magic> !ndiswrapper
[08:33] <ubotu> I heard ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wirless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[08:33] <ripgut> hello?
[08:34] <Da_SWAT> Blissex, hahaha, OK. I'm asking thing because of the use of VNC. Sometimes I want to look at the other screen :P
[08:34] <dcDuncan> Buenas.!
[08:34] <Bad_Magic> i have never installed it
[08:34] <Bad_Magic> that should have step by step instructions tho
[08:34] <P229> is gstreamer-mad in universe or multiverse?
[08:34] <Seveas> multi
[08:34] <mjr_> uni
[08:34] <mjr_> oh?
[08:34] <Seveas> lol :)
[08:34] <zachman121> The odd thing is the CD integrity check passes... it just won't load from the cd correctly
[08:34] <Seveas> probably uni :)
[08:34] <mxpxpod> Moopere: the thing that gets me is that the restricted legacy modules are put in /lib/linux-restricted-modules-{version}
[08:34] <bastijn> can some1 please send me his repos file???
[08:34] <mjr_> and btw, it's gstreamer0.8-mad you probably want
[08:34] <vc> 13
[08:35] <Blissex> Da_SWAT: VNC creates a second _display_ not screen, unless you start it in multi screen mode, in which case it creates a second display with multiple screens...
[08:35] <P229> Seveas: thanks
[08:35] <linner> Arkainium, ok... well that shut me down... using the power button.
[08:35] <vbgunz> Chii_Chan: is it that after the move you have to change file or directory permissions?
[08:35] <Blissex> Da_SWAT: sorry, confusion: it is Xnest, not VNC, that can have multiple virtual screens.
[08:35] <Seveas> P229, thank mjr_ he had the correct info
[08:35] <linner> Arkainium, so... is there another button I can use to mke it go into sleep mode?
[08:35] <Seveas> I was tlaking gibberish
[08:35] <Bad_Magic> anyone have any idea why im getting this error message? FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[08:35] <bastijn> Seveas: can you please send me your repos file???
[08:35] <vbgunz> bastijn: repos file?
[08:36] <ripgut> ANYONE?
[08:36] <Seveas> Bad_Magic, install linux-686 (intel cpu) or linux-k7 (amd
[08:36] <bastijn> yes, my repos are bad i think
[08:36] <Chii_Chan> In order to copy to //usr/share/games/xshipwars/etc/ I need permissions to do so
[08:36] <Seveas> ripgut, breezy or hoary>
[08:36] <vbgunz> what is it? where is it?
[08:36] <ripgut> hoary
[08:36] <Chii_Chan> is there a way I can get permissions and do it in the gui?
[08:36] <bastijn> oh lol wait
[08:36] <Seveas> ripgut, get a hava .deb from ubuntu.tower-net.de
[08:36] <Moopere> mxpxpod, hmm, I'm looking
[08:36] <ripgut> how do i do that
[08:36] <zachman121> Moopere any other ideas for me?
[08:36] <Seveas> you open firefox, go to that site and download it...
[08:36] <vbgunz> Chii_Chan: you can try running Nautilus as a different usr "root" and then try naviagting to it to change permissions...
[08:37] <Arkainium> linner, lol, yep.  you  need to change what it does when you press it
[08:37] <Chii_Chan> kk
[08:37] <Arkainium> linner, by default, as you just saw, the powerbtn shuts the system down.  :)
[08:37] <bastijn> vbgunz: /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:37] <vbgunz> oh ok
[08:37] <Moopere> zachman121, ya, its still gonig to be the speed of ther cd
[08:37] <P229> mjr_: thank you :)
[08:37] <Bad_Magic> Seveas: er... duh =P
[08:37] <Moopere> zachman121, open a command line
[08:37] <Chii_Chan> where do i find the program nautilus?  Ive seen it somewhere but cant find it >.<
[08:37] <Arkainium> linner, if you want to be able to put the laptop to sleep.  first edit /etc/defaults/acpi-support and uncomment the line ACPI_SLEEP=true.  if it's not there, add it.
[08:37] <Bad_Magic> Seveas: any idea why i had 386 installed by default? =x
[08:37] <Moopere> what is your cd?  hdb hdc? hdd?
[08:38] <linner> ok
[08:38] <ripgut> that site doesnt have a link to download "it"
[08:38] <vbgunz> bastijn: I am on Breezy
[08:38] <Gobbla_> is it just for me firefox doesent work?
[08:38] <linner> Arkainium, let me give it a shot
[08:38] <Gobbla_> in hoary
[08:38] <ripgut> its in german or something
[08:38] <vbgunz> bastijn: does it make a difference?
[08:38] <Arkainium> linner, wait
[08:38] <linner> ok
[08:38] <bastijn> hmm
[08:38] <vbgunz> Chii_Chan: go to run as different user and just type in Nautilus
[08:38] <bastijn> 5.10?
[08:38] <zachman121> not sure (not it setup now)
[08:38] <Arkainium> linner, after you do that.  you still need to change the behavior of the power button
[08:38] <vbgunz> yes, 5.10
[08:38] <bastijn> vbgunz: 5.10?
[08:38] <bastijn> ok
[08:38] <bastijn> me 2
[08:38] <zachman121> but what should I do from there in the terminal in setup?
[08:39] <Arkainium> linner, you do that by editing /etc/acpi/events/powerbtn so that instead of running powerbtn.sh it runs sleep.sh
[08:39] <Chii_Chan> where is the run as a differnet user?
[08:39] <linner> Arkainium, i just tried to copy one folder to another using sudo, I was given the result that said, "cp: omitting directory `/home/kelley/My Downloads/backgrounds/'
[08:39] <Bad_Magic> Seveas: also how do i go about telling ubuntu to boot the new kernel?
[08:39] <linner> what does that mean?
[08:39] <Moopere> zachman121, make sure you turn off all 'go fast' options in bios - maybe at boottime pass this option to the kernel as well "hdc=nodma" if hdc is your cdrom
[08:39] <Seveas> you reboot :)
[08:39] <bastijn> vbgunz: can u put it on a server or something?
[08:39] <linner> oh okay
[08:39] <vbgunz> bastijn: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2518
[08:39] <zachman121> sure, I'll try that
[08:39] <zachman121> thanks again
[08:39] <linner> Arkainium, let me try that
[08:39] <Arkainium> linner, if you're copying directories you need to add the switch -R for recursive copying
[08:39] <danielG> greetings.  recommend low latency kernel?
[08:39] <linner> oh ok
[08:40] <zachman121> I turned pio down to the lowest setting for the drive but that didn't help either
[08:40] <linner> Arkainium, let me do that one first
[08:40] <bastijn> vbgunz: thnx, im gonna test it, brb
[08:40] <vbgunz> Chii_Chan: have you found it?
[08:40] <ripgut> hello? anyone?
[08:40] <Moopere> zachman121, the boot kernel might be turning this stuff back on - you might need to pass the boot paramter I mentioned ealier
[08:40] <Chii_Chan> How do I do it run as a differnet user?
[08:40] <Seveas> ripgut, http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/dists/hoary/java/binary-i386/
[08:40] <vbgunz> Chii_Chan: it should be under applications > system tools I believe
[08:40] <zachman121> sure
[08:40] <Seveas> ripgut, get the smallest one
[08:41] <vbgunz> bastijn: cool!
[08:41] <Chii_Chan> ty :)\
[08:41] <vbgunz> so you have it now? Good!
[08:41] <ripgut> i did, thanks
[08:41] <linner> Arkainium, it worked... however I thought it would paste OVER the current backgrounds directory so....
[08:41] <linner> Arkainium, how do I delete now and redo?
[08:42] <pratyk> hi
[08:42] <Bad_Magic> Seveas: Any help on changing ubuntu to boot from the 686 kernel now?
[08:42] <Bad_Magic> =x
[08:42] <Arkainium> linner, I don't understand.  what are you trying to do exactly?
[08:42] <bastijn> vbgunz: NL?
[08:42] <linner> Arkainium, well, I'm downloading backgrounds for my desktop... wouldn't originally let me paste it where it's supposed to go  so I made a new directory
[08:42] <vbgunz> bastijn: NL?
[08:42] <flodine> anyone running point2play
[08:43] <vbgunz> bastijn: whats is NL?
[08:43] <P229> mjr_: do you happen to know where libdvdcss lives? I can't seem to find it in universe or multiverse
[08:43] <linner> Arkainium, now I want to paste that directory over the existing directory
[08:43] <bastijn> vbgunz: NL = Holland. I mean, are you from holland?
[08:43] <mxpxpod> Moopere: anything??
[08:43] <linner> so... i need to delete what i just did
[08:43] <sunshine> moorpere the sound was working when i was on windows
[08:43] <mjr_> P229, I got mine from marillat
[08:43] <TC> yes I am NL
[08:43] <Arkainium> linner, to delete a directory, use rm -r dirname
[08:43] <linner> and i'm wondering if I have to do all this from a frickin' command line?  can't i do it as a gui?
[08:43] <linner> ok
[08:43] <vbgunz> bastijn: oh... no I am from FLUS... Florida US
[08:44] <Arkainium> if you want to overwrite something, you can use mv.  so mv dir1 dir2 should work I think.
[08:44] <TC> does anybody know what to do when your root terminal stops working??
[08:44] <mjr_> P229, I think there should be a script /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh that fetches the decss module
[08:44] <Moopere> mxpxpod, I'm having trouble finding the nvidia X module - for sure that error you are getting it because we are using the 'new' module which doesn't support <gf3
[08:44] <P229> mjr_: oh, I'll check that out
[08:44] <pigeon5> hey fellas, I have some mpeg4 avi's I need to get on a DVD to play on a standalone player. any advice?
[08:44] <Slarti-> I am officially astounded, progressing from amazed
[08:44] <selinium> snausages, Welsome back!
[08:44] <linner> i hate all this typing... I want to be able to go to the directory and just delete the damned thing
[08:44] <snausages> thanks selinium =)
[08:45] <selinium> snausages, np
[08:45] <dcDuncan> Buenas... Alguine habla espaol?
[08:45] <Slarti-> ubuntu picked up my usb joypad
[08:45] <Slarti-> w00t
[08:45] <mxpxpod> Moopere: even the legacy module??
[08:45] <danielG> any demudi users?  i've been having so much trouble with it but it has everything i need
[08:45] <bastijn> vbgunz: ooh ok, i thougt your from holland cause the link ended with nl ;)
[08:45] <linner> Arkainium, can i avoid all this typing?  Is there a way I can just log in a superuser or equiv?
[08:45] <Moopere> I don't think the legacy module is being picked up, have to find it - you know where it is in ther filesystem and what its called?
[08:45] <Arkainium> lol, linner.  you could do that if you're running gnome.  unless you're messing around in places you have no permission in.  :P
[08:45] <mxpxpod> Moopere: also, something created a "volatile" directory in my module directory and I can't get rid of it
[08:45] <Seveas> dcDuncan, #ubuntu-es
[08:45] <el_toro> dcDuncan, proba #ubuntu-es
[08:45] <Moopere> mxpxpod, leave it
[08:45] <vbgunz> bastijn: I scrolled all the way up to the top of this list and found the pastebin link...
[08:45] <linner> i'm running gnome
[08:46] <mxpxpod> Moopere: ok... but it's empty
[08:46] <vbgunz> I've got to go... It's been fun everyone, thanks!
[08:46] <dcDuncan> ok. :D
[08:46] <linner> Arkainium, and this is just the frickin' backgrounds folder
[08:46] <linner> :)
[08:46] <linner> Arkainium, can you tell me how to do it?
[08:46] <snausages> can anyone tell me how i can add/enable 32-bit colors? would i have to edit xord.conf ?
[08:46] <snausages> xorg*
[08:46] <Arkainium> linner, it's best to keep stuff like that in your home directory.  after all, that's what it's for.
[08:46] <motoguzzi> hi all, im new to ubuntu and would like to ask what i have to download to play my avi movies in totem. thanks
[08:47] <linner> err...................
[08:47] <ripgut> wow, downloading a 29mb java file on a 128k connection just blows
[08:47] <linner> Arkainium, just humor me... please tell me how to do it? :)
[08:47] <Arkainium> linner, then you can use the "add wallpaper" button in the gnome desktop background preferences
[08:47] <bastijn> vbgunz: oki :)
[08:47] <linner> I know...
[08:47] <linner> Arkainium, i did that last night... it bugs me having two folders for it... just a personal thing
[08:48] <pigeon5> anyone on here good with burning video to dvd?
[08:48] <mxpxpod> Moopere: ok, this is strange... now if I try to modprobe nvidia, it tells me the module is missing
[08:48] <Bad_Magic> Well... can anyone help me switch over from the 386 kernel to 686 kernel?
[08:48] <Arkainium> linner, *shrug* you really should have to add it to the default gnome directory.  but if that's what you want, cp * /gnome/backgrounds/directory.  you'd do that in the directory where all your custom backgrounds are saved.
[08:49] <Seveas> Bad_Magic, apt-get install linux-686
[08:49] <Seveas> reboot
[08:49] <Seveas> done
[08:49] <Arkainium> shouldn't*
[08:49] <Bad_Magic> ah
[08:49] <linner> Arkainium, thank ou
[08:49] <linner> Arkainium, you even :)
[08:49] <Bad_Magic> any idea why the 386 kernel was installed to begin with?
[08:49] <Seveas> because there's only space for 1 kernel on the cd
[08:49] <Bad_Magic> gotcha
[08:49] <ripgut> 9 minutes left :s
[08:49] <Bad_Magic> brb then
[08:50] <mxpxpod> Moopere: what command sets up the volatile directory?
[08:50] <P229> mjr_: worked beautifully, many thanks!
[08:50] <aaron__> need some help here, ive got a sounblaster live card on my pc and it wont detect it
[08:50] <Tidus> aaron__: modprobe snd-emu10k1 and see if it detects
[08:51] <Arkainium> linner, btw, here's a tip.  if you know you're going to do a lot of admin work.  enter 'sudo -s' to run a root terminal.  use it cautiously though.
[08:51] <Arkainium> linner, that way you don't have to keep typing sudo command
[08:51] <Tidus> Arkainium: or you can change ubuntu to act like every other standard linux system by 'sudo passwd root' then setting root's password to a known value
[08:52] <linner> Arkainium, well that helps a little.. thank you :)
[08:52] <Moopere> mxpxpod, what does bottom of /var/log/xorg.0.log say?
[08:52] <emile> Arkainium: you can use sudo -s once a session to open a root shell
[08:52] <pratyk> do anybody have pcte modem
[08:52] <linner> Arkainium, where can i get a Linux Command Reference?
[08:52] <pratyk> pctel modem
[08:53] <mxpxpod> Moopere: failed to load the nvidia kernel module
[08:53] <Arkainium> linner, man?  Or just search google.
[08:53] <Arkainium> linner, anyway.  did you get your laptop to sleep?
[08:53] <Moopere> just before that, does it mention a revision number of the module?
[08:53] <libben> [20:50]  <libben> what do i need to get the GUI installation ? http://www.neowin.net/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t252074.html
[08:53] <Moopere> mxpxpod,  just before that, does it mention a revision number of the module?
[08:53] <libben> [20:50]  <libben> cause when i do it i get terminal mode installation
[08:53] <aaron__> hmm, i type that modprobe in the root shell right?
[08:53] <libben> cant remember what it was... have had installed on previous boxes
[08:53] <linner> Arkainium, i haven't gotten that far yet... :)
[08:53] <cesarin> any idea of theres a way to make a CANON 3200F USB to work on ubuntu?
[08:54] <linner> Arkainium, man?  No, I'm female.  I get that all the time.
[08:54] <mxpxpod> Moopere: 1.0-7174
[08:54] <Arkainium> linner, lol!  I meant the 'man' comand.
[08:54] <cesarin> linner, with boobs & stuff? 9_9
[08:54] <Moopere> mxpxpod, ok, so, its trying to use the right driver.  Can you paste the last bit of your log here?
[08:54] <zachman123> Still won't read the cd right... I found it always gets stuck on wireless-tools-udeb though
[08:54] <mxpxpod> Moopere: no, I'm at console
[08:54] <Moopere> !pinboard
[08:54] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, Moopere
[08:55] <Bad_Magic> Seveas: its safe to remove the 386 kernel packages now?
[08:55] <Arkainium> linner, type 'man man' to see what I'm talking about.  :P
[08:55] <Seveas> Bad_Magic, did you reboot?
[08:55] <aaron__> you think it may not be working because ive also got a onboard sound card?
[08:55] <Moopere> mxpxpod, heh, of course
[08:55] <Bad_Magic> Seveas: yup
[08:55] <MachineScrew> what the hell is going on with the damn Horay repos
[08:55] <sambagirl> what mp3 player is better than xmms? what are others using?
[08:55] <mxpxpod> Moopere: ok, hold on a second... my volatile directory is now empty and I can't load the module using modprobe
[08:55] <Seveas> then it's safe
[08:55] <mxpxpod> sambagirl: rhythmbox or banshee
[08:55] <MachineScrew> I did an update and it removed gaim
[08:55] <Seveas> sambagirl, beep-media-player is better
[08:55] <Tidus> $ man woman
[08:55] <Tidus> No manual entry for woman
[08:55] <[LethAL] > LOl
[08:55] <sambagirl> i cannot make rhythjm box play my mp3
[08:55] <sambagirl> banshee
[08:55] <Seveas> !mp3
[08:55] <ubotu> I heard mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[08:55] <sambagirl> ok i look for this
[08:55] <Concord_Dawn> can anyone help me with installing remote includes for Unreal3.2.3? My /lib/cpp fails a sanity check.
[08:56] <zachman123> moopere any more ideas?
[08:56] <Bad_Magic> Seveas: still getting the same error with ndiswrapper tho (cept now its 686 not 386
[08:56] <sambagirl> restricted formats ;(
[08:56] <Bad_Magic> )
[08:56] <libben> what do i need to install to get a graphical kernel compilation?
[08:56] <sambagirl> always something
[08:56] <bastijn> vbgunz: thnx, it works now :)
[08:56] <zachman123> under F4 it says "Bad MD5sum for wireless-tools-udeb"
[08:56] <MachineScrew> who was the dumb ass the screw the repos ?
[08:56] <vessuvius> Has anyone had any problems with the 5.10 preview? I'm thinkin of switchin my server from gentoo over to kubuntu today... but I could wait a few more weeks for the official release
[08:56] <Seveas> Bad_Magic, did you use sudo?
[08:56] <Bad_Magic> yes
[08:56] <Seveas> odd.
[08:57] <Bad_Magic> agreed
[08:57] <cesarin> damn, the forums still down x_X
[08:57] <Moopere> mxpxpod, just before the log tells you the module won't load, does it offer any suggestion as to why?  ie, no screens, no pointing device, etc etc
[08:57] <bastijn> vessuvius: I still prefere Debian Sarge for servers
[08:57] <dooglus> I use 'woman' to read man pages
[08:57] <Moopere> vessuvius, Don't switch your server over to a beta OS man
[08:57] <Gobbla_> hey, does firefox work for everybody else (hoary?)
[08:57] <mxpxpod> Moopere: not that I can see
[08:57] <Bad_Magic> mines working gobbla
[08:57] <Gobbla_> wtf..
[08:57] <mxpxpod> Moopere: let's get this volatile directory thing working first
[08:57] <vessuvius> bastjin... this is just my home server that I put around on
[08:57] <aaron__> mines working
[08:57] <Gobbla_> tried to reinstall
[08:57] <Seveas> vessuvius, gentoo on a server is worse then ubuntu 5.10
[08:57] <Gobbla_> still doesnt work
[08:57] <Bad_Magic> the upgrade sorta had a shit-fit but i removed the old firefox packages and it worked fine
[08:58] <zachman123> moopere, any other tries at it?
[08:58] <Seveas> but you's better go for ubuntu 5.04
[08:58] <dcDuncan> Disculpen por el idioma. Alguien sabe de donde se puede descargar el dvd de Ubuntu ( pero que el link este funcionando)
[08:58] <Seveas> which is stable
[08:58] <Moopere> mxpxpod, I'm not even sure that the volatile directory is important
[08:58] <[LethAL] > !es
[08:58] <vessuvius> I just run a webserver and some samba shares...
[08:58] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:58] <Seveas> dcDuncan, #ubuntu-es
[08:58] <Concord_Dawn> can anyone tell me why cpp3.3 would fail a sanity check?
[08:58] <mxpxpod> Moopere: well, I can't load the nvidia module using modprobe
[08:58] <Gobbla_> Bad_Magic: so did i
[08:58] <ripgut> Seveas: the download is complete and the file is on the desktop, what do i do now?
[08:58] <Gobbla_> didnt help
[08:58] <Seveas> Concord_Dawn, because it's not installed...
[08:58] <mxpxpod> Moopere: and nvidia-glx-config enable doesn't do anything
[08:58] <Bad_Magic> Gobbla_ any error message?
[08:58] <Moopere> mxpxpod, I wouldn't expect to be able to - how about startx or gdm
[08:58] <Concord_Dawn> Seveas, yeah. I thought so to, except for the fact that it is.
[08:58] <Seveas> ripgut, sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/sun*.deb
[08:58] <dcDuncan> en  #ubuntu-es nadie contesta
[08:58] <MachineScrew> who do I inform about the repos taking a dump
[08:58] <Brunellus> I can't get my computer to ping my router which sits at 192.168.2.1
[08:58] <bastijn> vessuvius: I tink you better don't run 5.10 on it :)
[08:58] <dcDuncan> por favor
[08:59] <aaron__> is it possible to just upgrade ubuntu to the ubuntu 5.10 preview?
[08:59] <Gobbla_> Bad_Magic: no
[08:59] <bastijn> vessuvius: My opinion
[08:59] <Concord_Dawn> yes aaron__
[08:59] <Seveas> Concord_Dawn, install build-essential gcc-3.3 g++-3.3
[08:59] <vessuvius> I learned a lot runnin gentoo, but compiling everything from source is just ridiculous
[08:59] <Brunellus> the output of ifup wlan0 is in #pastebin
[08:59] <Gobbla_> just doesent run
[08:59] <mxpxpod> Moopere: dude, if I can't load the nvidia module, it won't work with X
[08:59] <[LethAL] > !tell aaron__ about upgrade2breezy
[08:59] <ripgut> ok, now what
[08:59] <Brunellus> would someone please have a look and tell me what's wrong?
[08:59] <vessuvius> aight :) thnx bastjin
[08:59] <cesarin> BOO FOR CANON!!!, no support for the scanners :/
[08:59] <Bad_Magic> did you try removing and reinstalling the new packages?
[08:59] <zachman123> If found a response online to someone else with the same drive/problems and they were told to try ide=nodma, but that didn't help me
[08:59] <bastijn> vessuvius: always :)
[08:59] <Brunellus> I think it may have something to do with changing the default gateway
[08:59] <Moopere> mxpxpod, its probably dependant on another module, like nvidia-agp or something
[09:00] <Concord_Dawn> vessuvius, emerge? :-P
[09:00] <zachman123> Please, someone?
[09:00] <[LethAL] > Brunellus, try sudo route add default gw 192.168.2.1
[09:00] <Chris_Tucker> Where do i go to see the services dialog, and edit whic ones are started with a runlevel?
[09:00] <mxpxpod> Moopere: no, it can't find the module
[09:00] <Chii_Chan> brb >.<
[09:00] <koniu> hi
[09:00] <Chris_Tucker> i cannot find it in ubuntu, im used to kubuntu
[09:00] <Brunellus> [LethAL] , thanks.
[09:00] <Moopere> mxpxpod, try insmod then
[09:00] <vessuvius> Concord_Dawn... ya its actually quite nice... until you have to wait 13 hours to get a working kde desktop :-p
[09:00] <[LethAL] > Brunellus, That just magically worked? Wow
[09:01] <Concord_Dawn> hahahaha
[09:01] <Concord_Dawn> vessuvius, it's the reason why Debian and Debian based distros win
[09:01] <Tidus> vessuvius: it don't even take me that long to get KDE on gentoo
[09:01] <Concord_Dawn> good old apt.
[09:01] <ripgut> Seveas: it says "no such file or directory
[09:01] <mxpxpod> Moopere: I've already tried that... but modprobe is supposed to work
[09:01] <vessuvius> Tidus... I've got an old machine :)
[09:01] <Tidus> Concord_Dawn: ubuntu's alright, but debian proper is still too far out of date.
[09:01] <Seveas> replace sun*.deb with the actual filename ripgut
[09:01] <Tidus> vessuvius: how old?  i have a dual AMD 2000 with 256M ram
[09:01] <Moopere> mxpxpod, what happened when you tried insmod?  Did the module actually load?
[09:01] <Chris_Tucker> Where do i go to see the services dialog, and edit whic ones are started with a runlevel?
[09:02] <Concord_Dawn> Tidus, aint that the truth.
[09:02] <aaron__> lol, its so cool, i got a bunch of ubuntu cds and brought em to tech at school
[09:02] <aaron__> we all had fun installing them on p1 pcs
[09:02] <vessuvius> about 6 years old... PIII 550 w/ 256MB
[09:02] <ripgut> same thing
[09:02] <Brunellus> [LethAL] , no I haven't tried ityet
[09:02] <Brunellus> but you're the first relevant answer in ages
[09:02] <mxpxpod> Moopere: no, it said missing symbols and on other modules it says "not a module"
[09:02] <Concord_Dawn> Chris_Tucker, System->Preferences->Session
[09:02] <vessuvius> It was the best when I bought it :)
[09:02] <Bad_Magic> !ndiswrapper
[09:02] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wirless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[09:02] <[LethAL] > Brunellus, I didn't look at the pastebin though
[09:02] <vessuvius> (and dell accidentally sent me two)
[09:02] <vcr> yo
[09:02] <dooglus> Chris_Tucker: best I've found is sysv-rc-conf.  That lets you edit what gets run at each runlevel.
[09:02] <tritium> Chris_Tucker, are you running breezy yet?
[09:02] <Tidus> vessuvius: my old box is a p3-450 with 256M and it was slow.
[09:02] <dooglus> Concord_Dawn: I don't think that shows anything about runlevels, does it?
[09:02] <vcr> what soft would you recommend to record video from a tv grabber?
[09:03] <pratyk> Seveas , can u help with installing pctel modem driver
[09:03] <Moopere> mxpxpod, sounds like a bug man.  change to the nv driver and drop by bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[09:03] <vessuvius> Tidus, I did like rc-update a lot too
[09:03] <Tidus> vessuvius: you may think i'm a masochist, but i have a p2-233 with 128M running gentoo
[09:03] <Seveas> pratyk, I'm afraid not
[09:03] <vessuvius> wow
[09:03] <Chris_Tucker> tritium 5.04, warty i believe
[09:03] <Tidus> vessuvius: i think it's the easiest runlevel management system out there.
[09:03] <zachman123> Anyone, please?
[09:03] <Seveas> Tidus, you're worse than a masochist
[09:03] <Moopere> Tidus, good on you - I hate how fat and slow gnome is
[09:03] <ripgut> Seveas, same error
[09:03] <dooglus> Chris_Tucker: sysv-rc-conf will work on 5.04
[09:03] <vessuvius> I'd agree
[09:03] <tritium> Chris_Tucker, okay.  There's a nice gui runlevel editor in breezy
[09:03] <mxpxpod> Moopere: the thing is, volatile had stuff in it for a while, and now it doesn't
[09:03] <dooglus> (and 5.04 is called hoary?)
[09:03] <tritium> yes, dooglus
[09:04] <dooglus> tritium: there is?  what's it called?
[09:04] <vessuvius> And the documentation is excellent...
[09:04] <ninjafish> can anyone recommend a simple app(let), that can be used for browsing photos held in a directory (kind of like the view as slideshow on XP). I want to show a slideshow of pictures on my Mass Storage Complient Camera
[09:04] <Tidus> Moopere: i kinda like gnome, but right now i'm running some flatulent combination of enlightenment DR16 and nautilus for the desktop icons
[09:04] <Seveas> ripgut, make sure you spelled ~/Desktop/sun-j--something--.deb correctly
[09:04] <Seveas> including capitalization
[09:04] <Bad_Magic> So... anyone else have any ideas as to why im getting this error when i modprobe ndiswrapper? FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[09:04] <Chris_Tucker> tritium: dooglus, im used to kde, ive used the thing there. i want to start smbd and nmbd on startup, i remember i had to check the boxes in this GUI app.
[09:04] <nybble> yay!
[09:04] <tritium> dooglus, System->Administration->Services (on breezy only)
[09:04] <Moopere> Tidus, I love the way gnome looks, but man, is it bloated
[09:04] <nybble> nalioth!
[09:04] <ripgut> i copies and pasted the file name into the command, still same error
[09:04] <[LethAL] > Bad_Magic, sudo modprobe it
[09:04] <nalioth> howdy y'all
[09:04] <Bad_Magic> i did
[09:04] <Seveas> nalioth, good to see you back dude!
[09:04] <tritium> nalioth, good to see you!
[09:04] <vessuvius> I tried xfce the other day and found it quite refreshingly fast
[09:04] <Tidus> Moopere: it starts in under 2 seconds on my dual athlon
[09:04] <dooglus> tritium: that doesn't show the runlevels at all.  it's "all or nothing" with Services...
[09:04] <pratyk> Seveas, i tried it aska for kernel source.where can i find it in ubuntu.
[09:05] <vessuvius> although configuring it is not that great
[09:05] <Moopere> Tidus, seriously, 40MB+ for the xterminal for gnome! (eeek)
[09:05] <Seveas> nalioth, how's your home?
[09:05] <nalioth> all things are good, rita stood me up
[09:05] <dooglus> tritium: what's more, it only shows some of the entries in /etc/init.d/
[09:05] <Tidus> Moopere: it aint taking that much here
[09:05] <[LethAL] > vessuvius, I liked it too... but that fact the ppanel isn't bbar is what made me go back to Gnome
[09:05] <tritium> **And there was much singing and rejoicing at the return of nalioth**
[09:05] <shawarma> Bad_Magic: Check your syslog.
[09:05] <Seveas> pratyk, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[09:05] <Bad_Magic> /var/log/syslog?
[09:05] <shawarma> Bad_Magic: I think so.
[09:05] <Seveas> nalioth, nice!
[09:05] <shawarma> Bad_Magic: Or maybe just your dmesg output.
[09:06] <Bad_Magic> Sep 25 15:03:41 localhost udev[8712] : creating device node '/dev/ndiswrapper'
[09:06] <Bad_Magic> Sep 25 15:03:41 localhost kernel: ndiswrapper (wrapper_init:1494): loadndiswrapper failed (1792); check system log for messages from 'loadndisdriver'
[09:06] <Bad_Magic> Sep 25 15:03:41 localhost udev[8743] : removing device node '/dev/ndiswrapper'
[09:06] <Brunellus> [LethAL] , no joy.  network is unreachable
[09:06] <ripgut> yup Seveas, same fricking error
[09:06] <Brunellus> please look at the output from ifup in #pastebin
[09:06] <misfit_toy> what file would I edit to have DMA turned on every boot? apparently Ubuntu has no rc.local?
[09:06] <Seveas> Bad_Magic, do NOT paste in here
[09:06] <[LethAL] > Brunellus, Does ifconfig show you the IP of the adapter?
[09:06] <tritium> welcome back, linner
[09:06] <Seveas> misfit_toy, /etc/hdparm.conf
[09:06] <Chris_Tucker> ok, on a different topic, how do i get the system to print TO a shared printer thats on another computer?
[09:06] <Bad_Magic> thought it was one line.. sry
[09:06] <misfit_toy> Seveas, thx
[09:06] <Brunellus> [LethAL] yeah, it's 192.168.0.100
[09:06] <Tidus> Moopere: with E16, two instances of seti@home (one per processor), nautilus, and gnome-terminal going, and the entire system's only using like 80M ram
[09:06] <shawarma> Bad_Magic: Ok... Check /var/log/user.log
[09:06] <linner> thanks tritium :)
[09:06] <Brunellus> which is garbage;  the router is 192.168.2.1
[09:06] <tritium> dooglus, sorry, I haven't looked at it much
[09:07] <ripgut> man im really getting discouraged using linux
[09:07] <[LethAL] > Brunellus, ifconfig <adapter> 192.168.2.<chooseme>
[09:07] <Seveas> Chris_Tucker, system -> admin -> printing
[09:07] <Brunellus> and the hosts on the subnet I want it on are 192.168.2.1xx
[09:07] <Bad_Magic> ah-hah... no usable driver found
[09:07] <Brunellus> [LethAL] :  i'm trying to do it via DHCP
[09:07] <dooglus> tritium: it's just a few checkboxes - you can turn sshd on or off - that's all.  nothing "per runlevel"
[09:07] <Bad_Magic> which is odd considering it says they are installed
[09:07] <Brunellus> and wirelessly
[09:07] <pratyk> Seveas, thats the prob i cannt install modem driver.how can i go to net
[09:07] <Seveas> ripgut, if dpkg says that it can't find the file, you did not spell the name correctly
[09:07] <[LethAL] > Brunellus, sudo dhclient
[09:07] <Bad_Magic> ^^ driver reinstall coming up
[09:07] <tritium> dooglus, well, there's still update-rc.d
[09:07] <ztonzy> is in here the PM-spam comes from ?
[09:07] <ripgut> i did spell it corectly bro
[09:07] <ztonzy> is it*
[09:07] <ripgut> thats the thing
[09:07] <Seveas> pratyk, it may be on the cd
[09:07] <ripgut> i did, but why isn't it finding it
[09:07] <tritium> ripgut, try using tab-completion to make sure you did
[09:07] <pratyk> oh
[09:08] <Chris_Tucker> Seveas: what would the username and password for the default be?
[09:08] <dooglus> tritium: sure.  but that seems to want me to know the 2-digit numbers I want for each script
[09:08] <ztonzy> if I am not in here...there's no such spam at all :-\
[09:08] <ironwolf> anyone have gtkpod working on breezy?
[09:08] <[LethAL] > Brunellus, DHCP over WLAN didn't work for me on Ubuntu
[09:08] <ripgut> tab completion just gives a beep
[09:08] <vcr> anyone knows of a good program to record videos from a TV card?
[09:08] <[LethAL] > ripgut, #ls
[09:08] <[LethAL] > ls*
[09:09] <Seveas> ripgut, ls ~/Desktop
[09:09] <Seveas> put the output on the pastebin
[09:09] <jrattner1> Why cant i find j2re package in synaptip
[09:09] <Moopere> Tidus, yeah, 80M with e16, try the same under gnome - man....
[09:09] <jrattner1> synaptic
[09:09] <Seveas> jrattner1, hoary?
[09:09] <tritium> vcr, mythtv
[09:09] <jrattner1> searcher`, yes
[09:09] <jrattner1> Seveas, yes
[09:09] <Chris_Tucker> Seveas: what would the username and password for the default be?
[09:09] <Tidus> Moopere: i'm talking with E, 2xseti@home, nautilus for the desktop icons, and gnome-terminal running
[09:09] <Seveas> jrattner1, grab a deb from ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu
[09:09] <tritium> linner, laptop still going strong?
[09:10] <Seveas> Chris_Tucker, default what?
[09:10] <ripgut> ok so now what ls ~/Desktop doesnt do anything
[09:10] <jrattner1> Seveas, how do i do that
[09:10] <linner> tritium, it's wonderful :
[09:10] <linner> :)
[09:10] <Moopere> Tidus, my HT 3G P4 is just fine with gnome, but using it on my 700MHz Celly notebook is slow slow slow
[09:10] <Seveas> jrattner1, open firefix, go to that site, download it...
[09:10] <linner> tritium, trying to figure out the laptop specific stuff like standby and so forth
[09:10] <jrattner1> Seveas, then how do i install it
[09:10] <vcr> tritium: thx
[09:10] <Chris_Tucker> Seveas: if there is no password, persay, that the user sees, any windows computer on the network can print to the printer in question without entering a password
[09:10] <[LethAL] > jrattner1, dpkg -i *.deb
[09:10] <Seveas> sudo dpkg -i filename_of_debfile_here
[09:10] <Bateau_> how can i add programs to start when i start the pc?
[09:11] <Seveas> Chris_Tucker, then don't enter one
[09:11] <[LethAL] > Bateau_, Do they need to be run as root?
[09:11] <Seveas> Bateau_, startup or login?
[09:11] <Tidus> Moopere: i have ubuntu on my OLDOLDOLD pmmx-150 laptop with 80M ram in it
[09:11] <ripgut> man i swear this is pissing me off
[09:11] <Bateau_> [LethAL] : yes AND no :P
[09:11] <Bateau_> Seveas: Startup
[09:11] <Seveas> Bateau_, make it an initscript in /etc/rcS.d
[09:11] <tritium> linner, cool.  To enable suspend-to-ram, you'll need to edit /etc/default/acpi-support, and uncomment line 2
[09:12] <tritium> ripgut, patience
[09:12] <ripgut> im trying
[09:12] <Moopere> Tidus, You serious?  And you run gnome?  I'm running a warty server on a P1/100 with 128MB, but I never _ever_ log in locally
[09:12] <pratyk> Seveas: how can i share internet connection with my fren with windows box.
[09:12] <Chris_Tucker> ok Seveas, i have done that, but now its recommending i install a driver, a ppd file format, where would i find this?
[09:12] <linner> ok... oh that makes sense.. let me give it a shot
[09:12] <j-linux> I'm trying to update ubuntu.  It says "warning, you are about to install software that can't be authenticated! etc."  How do I get the software authenticated?
[09:12] <Tidus> Moopere: yep, it has gnome on it.  takes almost 7 minutes to restart
[09:12] <Moopere> Tidus, ha!
[09:12] <Seveas> pratyk, install firestarter, it has a one-clicke sharing thing
[09:12] <ripgut> imstalling java used to be easy a few months ago on ubuntu, now all this legal crap makes it harder for enusers
[09:12] <ripgut> its bs
[09:12] <linner> tritium, what does this mean http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/2519
[09:12] <Seveas> Chris_Tucker, wouldn't know...
[09:12] <Moopere> Tidus, and yet, running E on that machine wouldn't be all that bad
[09:13] <Chris_Tucker> ok, thanks anyway Seveas
[09:13] <mxpxpod> Moopere: ok, I figured it out... I needed to re-run /etc/init.d/linux-restricted-modules-common start after installing the linux-restricted-*-nvidia-legacy
[09:13] <yoyomonkey> hello all :)
[09:13] <Bateau_> Seveas:  initscript? how do i make that?
[09:13] <pratyk> Seveas: is it in cd
[09:13] <Moopere> Tidus, which is what I mean - gnome, curently, is too fat
[09:13] <mxpxpod> Moopere: X is working fine now
[09:13] <Moopere> mxpxpod, cool - thanks for the tip
[09:13] <Tidus> Moopere: ya, but i hardly use this machine locally, unless i'm using the NX client to log into my dually remotely
[09:13] <[LethAL] > Speaking of slow servers, should I use Ubuntu on my C/500/32MB(Maybe 128MB)/1GB PC or does anyone have a better recommendation?
[09:13] <shawarma> Chris_Tucker: linuxprinting.org
[09:13] <blekos_> hey ppl
[09:13] <tritium> linner, it means a monkey threw feces at your laptop
[09:13] <yoyomonkey> i have an s3 twister graphic card on my laptop can i accelerate the graphics for it
[09:13] <dylan_> what linux distro would anybody recommend for a pentium 1 laptop with 40MB of RAM?
[09:14] <ripgut> screw this
[09:14] <ripgut> i give up
[09:14] <Moopere> [LethAL] , 32MB is going to be aweful squeezy - but if you do a server only install it will work
[09:14] <linner> tritium, ew
[09:14] <linner> :)
[09:14] <dylan_> Moopere, whats a server only install?
[09:14] <[LethAL] > Moopere, Like I said, it could be 128
[09:14] <Moopere> [LethAL] , I'm using a 486/66 with 48MB as my firewall
[09:14] <tritium> linner, did that occur today, or last night?
[09:14] <Tidus> Moopere: wanna know what's sucky?  i have more ram in my router / firewall than i do in my dual athlon
[09:14] <tritium> just try again
[09:15] <Brunellus> [LethAL] :  OK I'm really confuse
[09:15] <dylan_> Moopere, do you recommend damn small linux?
[09:15] <shawarma> dylan_: when at the boot prompt on the install CD, you can type "server"
[09:15] <[LethAL] > Brunellus, What's up now?
[09:15] <linner> last night andj ust a few minutes ago
[09:15] <ripgut> all i want is frickin java and its like rocket science just trying to get it installed, its BS
[09:15] <Brunellus> dchlient had a line in the output to the effect of DHCNAK from 192.168.2.1
[09:15] <dylan_> shawarma, what does the server install install onto the system?  does it include gnome or what?
[09:15] <linner> when i tried to update through synapatic tritium
[09:15] <Brunellus> (that's my router!!!)
[09:15] <Moopere> dylan_, A server install of ubuntu works just fine (and is small) - no gui tho
[09:15] <[LethAL] > dylan_, No, server has no GUI
[09:15] <Brunellus> but then it gets a DHCPOFFER from 192.168.0.100
[09:15] <Tidus> Moopere: my router is a Via C3-800 with 512M ram running SuSE 9.2 Pro
[09:15] <Brunellus> (localhost?)
[09:15] <[LethAL] > O.O
[09:16] <[LethAL] > Do you really need DHCP?
[09:16] <Brunellus> how do I keep my computer from OFFERING DHCP
[09:16] <dylan_> [LethAL] , can i install fluxbox or xfce
[09:16] <Seveas> Brunellus, remove dhcp3-server
[09:16] <seatouch> !tell me about ident
[09:16] <Tidus> Brunellus: do you have dhcpd installed?
[09:16] <ripgut> can anyone help me?
[09:16] <Moopere> dylan_, "server install" - when you install ubuntu, instead of hitting enter, type 'server' or 'server-expert'
[09:16] <dylan_> is xfce or fluxbox more lightweight?
[09:16] <ripgut> im ready to go back to windows
[09:16] <seatouch> !tell me about identd
[09:16] <Brunellus> I have no idea
[09:16] <Seveas> you installed a dhcp server, get it out
[09:16] <Tidus> dylan_: yes, fluxbox is very lightweight
[09:16] <[LethAL] > ripgut, What's the question?
[09:16] <Brunellus> ok.
[09:16] <dylan_> Tidus, how about xfce?
[09:16] <MikeStyle> hey everyone....when i run wine on a .exe file i dont get text, i get symbols, making it impossible to install somthing...
[09:17] <ripgut> i cant get ubuntu to find the java file on my desktop
[09:17] <ripgut> its like it cant read proper spelling
[09:17] <ripgut> stupid distro
[09:17] <tritium> ripgut, you're doing something wrong, then
[09:17] <nnonix> ripgut: well, your java will work over there :)
[09:17] <Tidus> dylan_: it's fairly lightweight, but it's starting to suffer what we like to call the gnome disease.  it's slowly getting fatter
[09:17] <Moopere> xfce is lightweight, but slow (gtk!)
[09:17] <blekos_> i am looking for an application mayb u can help, in a couple of wallpapers i've seen something "odometers" o car, indicating hd space, system kernel vs, ethernet speed etc
[09:17] <MikeStyle> ripgut, are u running gdm or kde?
[09:17] <[LethAL] > ripgut, cd Desktop/; ls
[09:17] <dylan_> Tidus, lol Gnome disease, what about KDE disease?
[09:17] <ripgut> im not doing anything wrong i doulbe checked the spelling of the file dozens of times
[09:17] <blekos_> does it happen to know the name of the app?
[09:17] <ripgut> im not spelling it wrong
[09:17] <tritium> ripgut, where is the file located?
[09:17] <Tidus> dylan_: believe it or not, on my box KDE uses less ram than gnome
[09:17] <Moopere> dylan_, KDE is fast fast fast compared to gnome
[09:17] <ripgut> desktop
[09:18] <Seveas> Moopere, roflol
[09:18] <tritium> ripgut, desktop is spelled with a capital D
[09:18] <dylan_> tidus, Moopere, you're kidding
[09:18] <ripgut> Desktop
[09:18] <Moopere> dylan_, nope, not kidding
[09:18] <tritium> ripgut, cd Desktop and then do ls
[09:18] <ripgut> im cd'd in it
[09:18] <Tidus> Moopere: buti 'd like to differ.  gnome starts in under 2 seconds while KDE takes about 15
[09:18] <MikeStyle> ripgut, open terminal: cd /home/USERNAME/Desktop
[09:18] <shawarma> ripgut: So from you java app, you can't find a certain file... Is that it?
[09:18] <deFrysk> Moopere, lost sense of timing ?
[09:18] <ripgut> im in the directory i been in the directory
[09:18] <dylan_> Moopere, but it has more eye candy
[09:18] <Seveas> shawarma, he can't spell the name of the .deb correctly...
[09:18] <MikeStyle> can anyone help me with my wine problem?
[09:19] <tritium> ripgut, what is the name of the file as shown by the output of "ls"
[09:19] <tritium> ?
[09:19] <jc-denton> hi all
[09:19] <Brunellus> i don't have a dhcp server installed
[09:19] <ripgut> sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb
[09:19] <ripgut> that is exactly how i spelled it
[09:19] <jc-denton> i run breezy and was not careful when updating
[09:19] <deFrysk> MikeStyle, /j #wine
[09:19] <[LethAL] > MikeStyle, I have wine and cedega, both show fonts fine, no idea, sorry
[09:19] <jc-denton> so xorg got removed
[09:19] <shawarma> ripgut: Right. you want to install that? Is that it?
[09:19] <ripgut> yea
[09:19] <jc-denton> i installed it again but now synaptics does not work anymore
[09:19] <tritium> ripgut, and what is the output of "sudo dpkg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb" ?
[09:19] <Seveas> jc-denton, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:19] <MikeStyle> [LethAL] . wut is cedega?
[09:19] <jc-denton> (EE) Synaptics Touchpad no synaptics touchpad detected and no repeater device
[09:19] <ripgut> "no such file or directory"
[09:19] <shawarma> ripgut: So you type what? And get which error?
[09:19] <Brunellus> [LethAL] , I don't have a dhcp server installed, what's going on?
[09:19] <Moopere> Well, I'm using gnome and kde (and XP) on this laptop, and have 32+ other machines in my farm - take it from me, gnome 2.12 is a _lot_ slower and fatter then KDE 3.5 (or 3.4x)
[09:20] <j-linux> Does anyone have any advice for updating my Ubuntu?  It says the updates can't be authenticated and "someone can take control of my system".  Is there any way to authenticate the software?
[09:20] <[LethAL] > Brunellus, You do... you do you do you do
[09:20] <caleb_> does breezy support NetworkManager?
[09:20] <jc-denton> Seveas: humm
[09:20] <jc-denton> i dont think this will fix it
[09:20] <Bad_Magic> yay for me
[09:20] <Bad_Magic> ndiswrappers working
[09:20] <Bad_Magic> =x
[09:20] <dylan_> Moopere, how does KDE use less mem if it has more candy?
[09:20] <ripgut> im doing a "sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb
[09:20] <Brunellus> [LethAL] :  I just ran apt-get remove dchp3-server
[09:20] <shawarma> ripgut: ~ in a sudo comandline turns into /root...
[09:20] <Moopere> dylan_, candy does not have to equal > fat.  Code optimisation matters
[09:20] <[LethAL] > ripgut, change ~ to /home/ripgut/
[09:20] <Brunellus> and it gave me "not installed, so not removed"
[09:20] <ripgut> im in root
[09:20] <Seveas> shawarma, no
[09:21] <ripgut> why
[09:21] <MikeStyle> [LethAL] , what is cedega and how do i get it?
[09:21] <shawarma> Seveas: Oh,right. You're right.
[09:21] <Seveas> ripgut, ah THAT is your problem
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[09:21] <shawarma> ripgut: It doesn't. I'm dumb. Forget it.
[09:21] <Seveas> ripgut, do it as NORMAL user
[09:21] <Tidus> dylan_: on my gentoo box, a full KDE desktop the way i normally have it set up only takes like 50M ram
[09:21] <Bad_Magic> too bad kde is fugly
[09:21] <Bad_Magic> =
[09:21] <Bad_Magic> =\
[09:21] <jc-denton> the error i get seems more kernel related i think
[09:21] <[LethAL] > MikeStyle, Mine if I PM you?
[09:21] <Seveas> Bad_Magic, stop it
[09:21] <MikeStyle> Bad_Magic, wtf r u stupid? it looks so awesome
[09:21] <MikeStyle> [LethAL]  go ahead
[09:21] <Moopere> Bad_Magic, I have to say, ubuntu gnome is really nice to look at - I'm using it now
[09:21] <Seveas> MikeStyle, stop it.
[09:21] <ripgut> same error, ARRRGGH this is pissing me the fuck off
[09:21] <Seveas> Moopere, stop it
[09:21] <dylan_> Tidus, is gnome 2.12 fat too?
[09:22] <dylan_> Tidus, but i love gnome
[09:22] <denn_> anyone know how to play shoutcast streams in ubuntu?
[09:22] <tritium> ripgut, watch the language please
[09:22] <Seveas> dylan_, stop it
[09:22] <Moopere> dylan_, oh ya
[09:22] <MikeStyle> Seveas, sorry
[09:22] <ripgut> sorry
[09:22] <deFrysk> ok end of DEWar
[09:22] <Seveas> this is not the channel for wars
[09:22] <dylan_> Seveas, stop what?
[09:22] <test34> denn, xmms ?
[09:22] <ironwolf> what do people use on Breezy for putting songs on their ipods?
[09:22] <vladuz976> my usb is really slow, do i need to load extra kernel modules to improve that?
[09:22] <Brunellus> [LethAL] , if I don't have dhcp3-server installed, why am I getting DHCPOFFER from 192.168.0.100
[09:22] <Brunellus> ?
[09:22] <shawarma> ironwolf: gtkpod
[09:22] <[LethAL] > Brunellus, search synaptic for dhcp server
[09:23] <denn_> test34, i put a url to listen.pls in Open Location and it does nothing
[09:23] <bam_> anyone wanna help with a samba issue
[09:23] <tritium> Seveas, what did you think was ripgut's problem?
[09:23] <ironwolf> shawarma: does gtkpod work on breezy for you?  it won't write directories/songs for me.
[09:23] <ripgut> i got it
[09:23] <Tidus> dylan_: i wouldn't know about gnome 2.12
[09:23] <Seveas> tritium, that he's too stupid to spell ti correctly and do it as normal user
[09:23] <ripgut> its unpacking
[09:23] <ripgut> stupid me
[09:23] <ripgut> stupid
[09:23] <shawarma> ironwolf: oh... I haven't actually done it. It's just what I used to use..
[09:23] <denn_> test34, how do you do it right?
[09:23] <deFrysk> DE-stupidity
[09:23] <tritium> ripgut, cool, you got it installed?
[09:24] <deFrysk> should be a channel made
[09:24] <[LethAL] > ripgut, the problem was that the root's home dir isn't the same as yours, which ~ calls
[09:24] <ripgut> yea, thank you sir
[09:24] <ripgut> i was executing the command as root
[09:24] <test34> denn, yeah should be open location
[09:24] <Brunellus> [LethAL] , none installed
[09:24] <MikeStyle> [LethAL] , #ubuntu is blocking the PM's im sending
[09:24] <ironwolf> shawarma: it worked on hoary just GREAT!  but on breezy it seems to not work. Any ideas for working things people?
[09:25] <Bad_Magic> anyone want to help me with an mplayer freezeup whenever i load anything? (totem works...)
[09:25] <test34> denn, Play Location
[09:25] <shawarma> ironwolf: I'll test it. gimme a few minutes.
[09:25] <ironwolf> shawarma: cool thanks.
[09:25] <Brunellus> [LethAL] :  i'm telling you, there isn't one there.  what else could be doing this?
[09:25] <sh0wtime> got a question.. trying to install ubuntu-ppc on an ibook and my hd is messed cuz it complains when tries to partition the ext partition... is there any way to bypass thiss..?
[09:25] <cesarin> never tought that adding USB scannes could be this hard o_O
[09:25] <tritium> ripgut, :)
[09:26] <[LethAL] > Brunellus, try searching name and description
[09:26] <denn_> test34, do i need some special plugin or something?
[09:26] <jc-denton> well i just rebooted
[09:26] <jc-denton> now it works
[09:26] <aaron__> srry to ask again, what was that link to the upgrade2breezy?
[09:26] <ripgut> thanks guys sorry for my ignorance and inpatience
[09:26] <Brunellus> [LethAL] : I just *did*
[09:26] <Bad_Magic> !breezy
[09:26] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[09:26] <Brunellus> nothing installed!
[09:26] <jc-denton> probably udev related or something
[09:26] <aaron__> thx
[09:26] <Bad_Magic> nps
[09:26] <deFrysk> aaron__, also look at the topic next time
[09:26] <test34> denn_, let me try it
[09:27] <ripgut> now i can use limewire and get music on my zen micro
[09:27] <ripgut> thanks everyone!
[09:27] <vladuz976> there is no backports for breezy?
[09:27] <Seveas> vladuz976, breezy isn't even finished
[09:27] <Seveas> how can there be backports?!?
[09:27] <deFrysk> vladuz976, wouldn that be a bit hasty ? :D
[09:27] <denn_> test34, did it work?
[09:27] <vladuz976> Seveas, yeah true] 
[09:27] <test34> denn_, just open the .pls with xmms, works fine for me
[09:27] <Andrew> hey, im new, I just installed ubuntu, can anyone help for a sec?
[09:28] <MikeStyle> Andrew, shoot the question, somebody will help
[09:28] <Seveas> !tell Andrew about ask
[09:28] <deFrysk> !tell Andrew avout ask
[09:28] <Mr-Falkor> wee
[09:28] <Mr-Falkor> I have breezy now
[09:28] <deFrysk> !tell Andrew about ask
[09:28] <Bad_Magic> anyone want to help me with an mplayer freezeup whenever i load anything? (totem works...)
[09:28] <Mr-Falkor> but there is one little problem
[09:28] <Mr-Falkor> I cant install the nvidia drivers =/
[09:28] <vessuvius> Does ubuntu support reiserfs in breezy?
[09:28] <Seveas> Bad_Magic, set ao=esd in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf
[09:28] <Seveas> vessuvius, in hoary and warty too
[09:29] <Andrew> I just installed ubuntu, and I don't have a screen
[09:29] <Brunellus> vessuvius: i'm running reiserfs in hoary
[09:29] <Brunellus> and warty
[09:29] <linner> tritium, it seems the page has scrolled up too much and lost your directions to me for enabling standby support on my lappy
[09:29] <Bad_Magic> Seveas: it is
[09:29] <vessuvius> Seveas,Brunellus, oh good.. I must have been thinking of Debian
[09:29] <tritium> linner, shucks.  I guess you're out of luck, as I can't repeat it again ;)
[09:29] <tritium> linner, edit /etc/default/acpi-support, and uncomment line 2
[09:29] <linner> tritium, bummer, man :)
[09:29] <linner> thank you :)
[09:30] <Seeker_> Hi people!  I'm trying to change the default framebuffer driver that the distro uses.  Where I'm supposed to change that? :)  I'm trying to load tdfxfb
[09:30] <vessuvius> If I remember right, once you get ubuntu installed.... like if I install the preview release.. its as easy as apt-get upgrade (or something like that) when the release version comes out right?
[09:30] <tritium> yes, vessuvius
[09:30] <Chris_Tucker> well, so far ive managed to get it to appear as a printer, as far as printing to it, nothing yet
[09:31] <linner> tritium, it's already uncommented
[09:31] <Seveas> vessuvius, you should run apt-get upgrade on a regular basis (infact: the update manager does it for you)
[09:31] <cesarin> well im gone guys
[09:31] <cesarin> later!
[09:31] <cesarin> so bad I couldnt get up my scanner working.. it seems its NOT supported x_X damn canon!
[09:31] <tritium> linner, okay.  Have you rebooted since it was uncommented?
[09:31] <linner> no... i'll go do that
[09:31] <linner> thank you :)
[09:32] <shawarma> ironwolf: Er... What happens when you try?
[09:32] <Andrew> when I start ubuntu it promts me to put in my username and pass, then it says "you have no new mail" and then andrew@ubuntu:~$
[09:33] <Andrew> where do I go now?
[09:33] <Jan_> hihi all
[09:33] <[LethAL] > Andrew, what do you want to do?
[09:33] <Bad_Magic> what do you want to do?
[09:33] <Seveas> Andrew, did you install with 'expert' or 'server' option?
[09:33] <orangey> hey all!
[09:33] <Jan_> We just installed Ubuntu on a laptop, and it all works nicely except for DVD playback.
[09:33] <Andrew> server
[09:33] <Seveas> then you're done
[09:33] <Seveas> this is all that is ubuntu in server mode
[09:33] <Andrew> In't there like a desktop thing?
[09:33] <Seveas> no
[09:33] <ironwolf> shawarma: It mounts the ipod at /media/ipod (a breezyism I think, which is fine, I changed the links) then tries to create the directories, asks me ok, I say ok, it says directories can't be created
[09:33] <Mr_Flibble> Jan_, whats up with dvd playback?
[09:33] <Jan_> Totem says "Totem could not play 'dvd://' Error invoking "dvdnav_get_next_block": Error reading NAV packet"
[09:33] <orangey> I can only configure my network connection (eth0) to be "up" or "down", but not to go up and down depending on the plugged in wire status.. Is there nothing like pump or ifplugd for ubuntu?
[09:33] <Andrew> so I need to do it the other way?
[09:34] <Seveas> you specified you did not want one
[09:34] <orangey> if so, how do I configure it?
[09:34] <Seveas> Andrew, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:34] <shawarma> ironwolf: This is an entirely new iPod?
[09:34] <[LethAL] > Andrew, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:34] <Seveas> that will install the desktop
[09:34] <Jan_> *heavenly chorus*
[09:34] <Mr_Flibble> Jan_, you probably need the decryption library - this a commercial dvd?
[09:34] <Jan_> Yes.
[09:35] <Jan_> I assumed it would be something like that.
[09:35] <ironwolf> shawarma: essentially it is now, ipod mini, but I erased all of the directories. and started from scratch
[09:35] <Bad_Magic> Jan_: theres a walkthrough at www.ubuntuguide.org
[09:35] <tristanmike> Jan_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-ae79fed9d60ccdf06f400ae76ad53867d94bb2b8
[09:35] <Bad_Magic> or that
[09:35] <Bad_Magic> =)
[09:35] <tristanmike> Jan_, don't use ubuntuguide, use the wiki
[09:35] <Jan_> transgress: Um, okay.
[09:35] <shawarma> ironwolf: I see. So the direcotires are already there, but you want to overwrite them?
[09:35] <Andrew> seveas, thanks alot, its extracting right now, ill let you know how it goes
[09:36] <Seveas> Bad_Magic, DO NOT recommend ubuntuguide
[09:36] <Seveas> ubuntuguide sucks
[09:36] <tristanmike> !tell Jan_ about ubuntuguide.org
[09:36] <[LethAL] > Even ubotu says so
[09:36] <ironwolf> shawarma: I'm not convinced gtkpod finds them.
[09:36] <Jan_> I cannot connect to wiki.ubuntu.com because SSL is disabled.
[09:36] <Jan_> Apparently.
[09:36] <tristanmike> !tell Jan_ about ubuntuguide
[09:36] <Jan_> Ah, that doesn't work either
[09:36] <shawarma> ironwolf: Why?
[09:36] <Jan_> I don't think we set up the DNS properly
[09:37] <Jan_> Ah.
[09:37] <nalioth> go tristanmike!
[09:37] <Bad_Magic> lol
[09:37] <Bad_Magic> =)
[09:37] <tristanmike> :)
[09:38] <tristanmike> Jan_, lol
[09:38] <ironwolf> shawarma: because it was needed on hoary sometimes to make it work.
[09:38] <davidosa> I dl'ed the live .iso for mac, burned it to cd but can't get it to work. holding down 'c' while rebooting does not take. what gives?
[09:38] <Jan_> woah
[09:38] <shawarma> ironwolf: You just said everything was fine in Hoary, but not in Breezy+
[09:38] <shawarma> ironwolf: ?
[09:38] <Jan_> it's way fast detecting ethernet and setting up for outbound
[09:38] <Jan_> way faster than windows
[09:38] <Echelon-H> how can i make ubuntu auto-login ot a user on startup?
[09:39] <Jan_> Hibernate doesn't work :(
[09:39] <davidosa> any ideas fellas?
[09:39] <ironwolf> shawarma: I was able to get gtkpod into a known state with hoary.
[09:39] <Seveas> Echelon-H, sudo gdmsetup
[09:39] <Mr_Flibble> Jan_, try totem-xine, might work
[09:39] <Rikku> Sevea	ping
[09:39] <alabastos> hi
[09:39] <Chii_Chan> Im proud of myself, hehe I actualy installed and got a game to work
[09:39] <tristanmike> Jan_, you probably need to enable DMA
[09:39] <Rikku> Seveas: ping
[09:39] <coke-bass> .cl
[09:39] <alabastos> i try to install roxen3 but fails
[09:39] <Bad_Magic> Jan_: yea... i tried hibernating mine today and when it restarted it came back to a garbled gnome desktop and was locked hard
[09:39] <Seveas> Rikku, pong
[09:40] <alabastos> Configurando roxen3 (3.3.63-6) ...
[09:40] <alabastos> dpkg: error al procesar roxen3 (--configure):
[09:40] <alabastos>  el subproceso post-installation script devolvi el cdigo de salida de error 10Se encontraron errores al procesar:
[09:40] <alabastos>  roxen3
[09:40] <alabastos> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:40] <Rikku> Seveas: may i /msg you for a minute?
[09:40] <Seveas> alabastos, NEVER paste in here
[09:40] <tristanmike> quick on the ball there Seveas, lol
[09:40] <tritium> alabastos, no pasting please.  Also, use #ubuntu-es
[09:40] <Seveas> Rikku, no, you're evading a mute
[09:40] <MikeStyle> hey guys, i just ran sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb    and it installed....but i cant find it anywhere.
[09:40] <Rikku> Seveas: I'm just wondering why i got muted
[09:40] <jrattner1> What package is JAVA in synaptic
[09:40] <FhaeTon> Ok I'm Installing Ubuntu 64 right now as I type
[09:40] <Jan_> where it says "hoary-extras" do I want "breezy-extras"
[09:40] <Seveas> because I told you to stop the desktop war. You didn't.
[09:41] <snausages> hey guys. i screwed up my xorg.conf and now i'd like to restore it, possibly from the live cd. the one that i edited doesn't appear in my /etc/X11/ directory though
[09:41] <orangey> jrattner1, jre*
[09:41] <FhaeTon> I gonna tell everyone whats happening
[09:41] <kitschx> can anyone help me out with firefox 1.0.7 on ubuntu? i upgraded from 1.0.6 to 1.0.7 with ubuntus software updates, and since then, firefox wont start. got an error message that it couldnt overwrite /var/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions.d/00classic
[09:41] <steely> i've downloaded a snes emulator and can't find it in aptitude to install it
[09:41] <Rikku> Seveas: i was unaware that i was in a desktop war.  i stated good things about both
[09:41] <Seveas> kitschx, /topic
[09:41] <FhaeTon> I'm a total noob
[09:41] <kitschx> Sevas: thanks :)
[09:41] <tristanmike> steely, which emulator?
[09:41] <steely> snes9x
[09:41] <deFrysk> kitschx, see /topic
[09:41] <Bad_Magic> kitschx: remove the old packages and the new packages (if they installed) and then reinstall the new ones
[09:41] <Mr_Flibble> Rikku I got stung too - been here 4 hours helping the heck outa everyone and bang
[09:41] <MikeStyle> does anyone know where i can find the .deb i just installed?
[09:41] <tristanmike> steely, you should be able to find it in Synaptic
[09:41] <Rikku> Seveas: btw... mute is +q, not +b
[09:42] <tristanmike> steely, you shouldn't need to download it
[09:42] <steely> i'll try
[09:42] <FhaeTon> coping packages to HD
[09:42] <steely> i can install it w/o the download?
[09:42] <Seveas> Rikku, +q is shown as +b % now
[09:42] <Bad_Magic> Rikku: +b works too on most irc networks they also cant rejoin if they leave the channel
[09:42] <tristanmike> steely, check Synaptic, should be there
[09:42] <Jan_> sudo apt-get updated produced a lot of errors :(
[09:42] <Jan_> Should I ignore and continue, or try to fix?
[09:43] <Rikku> Seveas: i know the difference between 'quiet' and 'ban'
[09:43] <deadcat> anyone able to compile and load the zd1211 module? i can compile and load, but it doesnt do anything. because it didnt load the firmware
[09:43] <kitschx> defrysk, bad_magic: thanks i'll try it. but i didnt use the backports...
[09:43] <steely> tristanmike:  it isn't showing up in synaptic
[09:43] <FhaeTon> man I feel so helpless
[09:43] <Jan_> anyone? I'm utterly lost here
[09:43] <Bad_Magic> kitschx: dont do a total removal so you dont lose your preferences
[09:43] <_[> hi everyone
[09:44] <deFrysk> kitschx, good stuff , not using the backports :)
[09:44] <CarlFK> whats the "best" gui app for duping audio CDs?
[09:44] <tristanmike> steely, did you add the repositores?
[09:44] <nalioth> Jan_: leave -extras alone for now
[09:44] <bam_> samba help anyone?
[09:44] <Jan_> nalioth: What?
[09:44] <_[> was just wondering if Beagle will be included by default in Breezy or if i have to install all those packages, then hack my system to get it to work.  any answers?
[09:44] <FhaeTon> I'm helpless
[09:44] <nalioth> Jan_: i'm highly confused, what was your question?
[09:44] <steely> how do i do that?
[09:44] <deFrysk> CarlFK, gnome-baker graveman in kde k3b
[09:44] <FhaeTon> this is the matrix and I'm lost
[09:45] <Jan_> nalioth: I am going through the instructions for DVD playback at wiki.ubuntu.com
[09:45] <Jan_> It told me to "sudo apt-get update"
[09:45] <Jan_> many 404 errors appeared.
[09:45] <Seveas> _[, it'll be as simple as sudo apt-get install beagle
[09:45] <tristanmike> steely, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto?action=show&redirect=HowToEnableTheMultiverseRepositoryInUbuntu
[09:45] <nalioth> Jan_: you using breezy?
[09:45] <steely> thanks
[09:45] <Jan_> Yes, I think so
[09:45] <nalioth> Jan_: breezy is undergoing severe daily changes
[09:45] <CarlFK> deFrysk - thanks
[09:45] <Jan_> However I am concerned that the guide mentioned "hoary"
[09:45] <tristanmike> steely, are you using Breezy too?
[09:46] <_[> Seveas, really?  thats quite impressive.  cani  install it like that right now?
[09:46] <nalioth> Jan_: are you using x86 breezy or amd64 or ppc?
[09:46] <Jan_> x86
[09:46] <Seveas> _[, yes
[09:46] <MikeStyle> i just ran sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb    and it installed....but i cant find it anywhere. Can anyone Help Me?
[09:46] <Hieronymus> I just ordered CDs through shipit. Will I get 5.10 CDs?
[09:46] <Seveas> MikeStyle, what was ir?
[09:46] <[LethAL] > MikeStyle, What was it?
[09:46] <Seveas> Hieronymus, ja
[09:46] <nalioth> Jan_: you may try later as breezy pkgs are in constant developement atm
[09:46] <haasteem> hi emile: all is working now... you remember, the dvd drive?
[09:46] <MikeStyle> cedega
[09:46] <Hieronymus> Seveas: goed :) Waarom staat dat niet in de FAQ?
[09:46] <[LethAL] > Doesn't show in the gui
[09:47] <_[> Seveas, may i ask one more question...
[09:47] <ulisse> hello tribe
[09:47] <Seveas> _[, sure
[09:47] <MikeStyle> [LethAL]  where would i find it?
[09:47] <khermans_> Anyone know how to change the login sheel that SSH drops me into?
[09:47] <[LethAL] > MikeStyle, $ cedega *.exe
[09:47] <ulisse> how can I run something before starting X server?
[09:47] <Seveas> Hieronymus, het is gemaild en afaik staat het op shipit :)
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[09:47] <khermans_> I am being dropped into ksh, but i want bash
[09:47] <Seveas> khermans, chsh
[09:47] <Jan_> hm
[09:47] <MikeStyle> ah [LethAL] , cd to dir of exe file and run that?
[09:47] <_[> Seveas, linux will always be spyware and virus free because of what?  is it the development community, or what?
[09:47] <Jan_> we were told to definitely use breezy as it worked better on laptops
[09:47] <deFrysk> !tell Seveas about nl
[09:47] <deFrysk> ;p
[09:47] <nalioth> Seveas: you should know better
[09:47] <Seveas> _[, yes
[09:48] <[LethAL] > MikeStyle, yes, or you can tell ? to run exe's with cedega
[09:48] <Jan_> It took two days to download it due to various odd server problems
[09:48] <Seveas> and because of better security primitives
[09:48] <MikeStyle> ok thanks
[09:48] <Jan_> and now you're saying we have the wrong thing :(
[09:48] <Bad_Magic> Jan_: Im using hoary on my laptop atm and it runs well aside from hibernate
[09:48] <_[> Seveas, so popularity does NOT diminish security on a OS platform, its the way tis written?
[09:48] <Jan_> Bad_Magic: well this won't, and it sort of has to
[09:48] <Hieronymus> Seveas: It said that a few weeks ago. Something like 'shipit is closed, new orders will be Breezy Badger'
[09:49] <ulisse> what is the dafault runleve for ubuntu?
[09:49] <Seveas> _[, linux, like unix is built to be run on insecure networks.
[09:49] <[LethAL] > Hieronymus, They're back open now
[09:49] <Seveas> ulisse, 2
[09:49] <Bad_Magic> I have 0 experience with breezy and it wont be "stable" for another month so im no help til then
[09:49] <Bad_Magic> [
[09:49] <FhaeTon> it finished installation and kicked disk out
[09:49] <_[> Seveas, thanks a ton!
[09:49] <freemanen> what is the diffrent between ubuntu 5.04 and 5.10?
[09:49] <ulisse> Seveas, so if I want to run sthg before X, I have to put hands on rc.2 directory, right?
[09:49] <afaik> it't thre the disc out kicking and screaming
[09:49] <shawarma> _[: That has got to be the most annoying nick ever.
[09:49] <fetman> hello, I need som help with installing "lirc" in ubuntu!
[09:49] <FhaeTon> error 21
[09:49] <Seveas> freemanen, wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyGoals www.gnome.org/~davyd/gnome-2-12
[09:49] <khermans_> fetman, sudo aptitude install lirc
[09:50] <_[> shawarma, quite frankly, i dont care
[09:50] <fetman> khermans_: well, it's not that easy!
[09:50] <FhaeTon> grub loading, please wait.......   Error 21
[09:50] <thoreauputic> !nickometer _[
[09:50] <ubotu> '_[' is 40% lame, thoreauputic
[09:50] <snausages> HELP. i screwed up my xorg.conf and now i'd like to restore it, possibly from the live cd. the one that i edited doesn't appear in my /etc/X11/ directory though
[09:50] <thoreauputic> is that all ? *g*
[09:50] <Jan_> So we're saying you can't do DVD playback on Breezy.
[09:50] <_[> !nickometer thoreauputic
[09:50] <ubotu> 'thoreauputic' is 0% lame, _[
[09:50] <_[> wtf
[09:50] <[LethAL] > LOL
[09:50] <kitschx> bad_magic, defrysk: theres a problem with dependencies now. synaptic and apt-get says firefox is not available. i havnt done anything with my repositories lately. you know what could be the problem?
[09:50] <thoreauputic> _[: heh
[09:50] <fetman> khermans_: I have this thread; http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20952 but I don't know what to do in every step
[09:50] <Seveas> don't play with the bot...
[09:50] <[LethAL] > !nickometer [LethAL] 
[09:50] <ubotu> '[LethAL] ' is 18% lame, [lethal] 
[09:50] <FhaeTon> help
[09:50] <shawarma> !nickometer shawarma
[09:50] <ubotu> 'shawarma' is 0% lame, shawarma
[09:51] <shawarma> woot!
[09:51] <FhaeTon> grub loading, please wait.......   Error 21
[09:51] <thisnickrules> !nickometer thisnickrules
[09:51] <ubotu> 'thisnickrules' is 0% lame, thisnickrules
[09:51] <Seveas> don't play with the bot...
[09:51] <thisnickrules> Seveas, ok sry
[09:51] <deFrysk> kitschx, set http in yor repositories to ftp
[09:51] <deFrysk> shpuld work again then
[09:51] <deFrysk> excuse the typos :s
[09:51] <FhaeTon> grub loading, please wait.......   Error 21 Hellpp!!!
[09:51] <Mr_Flibble> Jan_, looks that way - perhaps some lingering legal trouble with libdvdcss?
[09:51] <shawarma> Evilseveas: That's right. the nickometer is not a toy! :-D
[09:51] <afaik> does anyone know if there is such a thing as s-video to rca plug? Or whatever the yellow plug is called that plugs into older tvs?
[09:52] <Artimus> afaik: Radioshack has them
[09:52] <Jan_> Mr_Flibble: But I could do it on Red Hat
[09:52] <seatouch> !nickometer searcher`
[09:52] <ubotu> 'searcher`' is 14% lame, seatouch
[09:52] <morf> hi leute
[09:52] <Artimus> afaik: Let me guess.  Svideo-Out from your computer into your TV?
[09:52] <afaik> Artimus, I looked at radio shack.. they had none, and the salesperson acted all confused when I questioned him
[09:52] <Mr_Flibble> Jan_, You could do it on ubuntu hoary too
[09:52] <Jan_> And it won't hibernate.
[09:52] <[LethAL] > !lart himself
[09:52] <thisnickrules> seatouch, Seveas just asked me not to do that
[09:52] <Jan_> So it's unusable.
[09:52] <Dada> Anyone from Chile???
[09:53] <deFrysk> chile is hispanic right ?
[09:53] <deFrysk> !es
[09:53] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:53] <Mr_Flibble> Jan_, i cant find the libdvdcss anywhere in the breezy repositories - doesn't mean its not out there somewhere
[09:53] <Dada> thanks ubotu
[09:53] <Jan_> I think we RPM'd it under Red Hat
[09:53] <Rikku> any other ops in here besides seveas?
[09:53] <Jan_> but why is it suddenly a problem?
[09:53] <shawarma> Mr_Flibble: It's in libdvdread3
[09:53] <[LethAL] > Rikku, quite obviously not
[09:53] <nalioth> Rikku: why do you want ops?
[09:53] <thoreauputic> Rikku: they are hiding ;)
[09:54] <Mr_Flibble> Jan_, theres your answer - from shawarma
[09:54] <P229> Mr_Flibble: there's a shell script that installs it
[09:54] <mjr_> Mr_Flibble, see the script /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh that fetches the decss module
[09:54] <deFrysk> rikki more ops are watching you then you would be happy with ;p
[09:54] <Rikku> I was never warned to stop the DE war before i was banned
[09:54] <shawarma> Mr_Flibble: well, kind of. In libdvdread3 there's a script in /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3 that install libdecss or whatever.
[09:54] <hablandocontigo> hello, I'm on bitchx now, I reconfigured x to try to use the nvidia driver, now I can't boot into X, I tried VESA, also but I get an error message about "device not found"; anyone have any idea?
[09:54] <tristanmike> Rikku, they're incognito
[09:54] <deFrysk> Rikku, that is
[09:54] <Jan_> Mr_Flibble: Sure, but what does that mean
[09:54] <Rikku> i was unaware that it was even a war.
[09:54] <Bad_Magic> kitschx: did you get it working?
[09:54] <P229> hablandocontigo: try Xorg -configure
[09:54] <hablandocontigo> P229 thanks
[09:54] <shawarma> Jan_: Have you got libdvdread3 nstalled?
[09:55] <Jan_> I don't know.
[09:55] <kitschx> Bad_Magic: no, ive changed some repositories to ftp but it still doesnt work. im trying to change some more
[09:55] <P229> Jan_: sh /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
[09:55] <tristanmike> Jan_, do a search in Synaptic for it
[09:55] <tristanmike> Jan_, or there ;) P229
[09:55] <daejavu> how do u get to run .wma  music/videos files on ur media players ?
[09:55] <nalioth> y'all be good. bbl
[09:55] <Jan_> Synaptic?
[09:55] <shawarma> Jan_: If so, run: /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[09:55] <nalioth> !tell Jan_ about synaptic
[09:55] <kitschx> Bad_Magic, deFrysk: still doesnt work. synaptic says "Package firefox has no available version, but exists in the database."
[09:55] <P229> Jan_: after installing libdvdread3 like tristanmike says
[09:55] <Verso`> Is it possible to change the serial number of my PowerBook G4 ?
[09:55] <hablandocontigo> P229 "Missing output drivers configuration failed"
[09:55] <Bad_Magic> kitschx: mines working with http://
[09:56] <Seveas> grmbl, my mouse went byzantine
[09:56] <shawarma> Verso`: Doubtfully.
[09:56] <Bad_Magic> kitschx: do mozilla-firefox
[09:56] <Jan_> hang on
[09:56] <Jan_> you're losing me
[09:56] <Jan_> what do I do
[09:56] <vessuvius> Is there any difference between installing ubuntu and then installing and configuring kde than installing kubuntu?
[09:56] <shawarma> Jan_: Type "/usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh"
[09:56] <shawarma> Jan_: And smile.
[09:56] <steely> tristanmike: what is breezy?
[09:57] <zarkoth> 'lo there
[09:57] <kitschx> Bad_Magic, looks like its working with mozilla-firefox (somebody already told me i should try it instead of firefox, i dont know why i forgot). thanks :)
[09:57] <Jan_> "dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privelidge"
[09:57] <Ne453> vessuvius: Ubuntu and Kubuntu use the same repositories, so it essentially doesn't matter
[09:57] <thoreauputic> vessuvius: the first way you get gnome as well (assuming a default install)
[09:57] <NSK> hello
[09:57] <Mr_Flibble> Jan_, go here /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples and run install-css.sh
[09:57] <steely> i still can't find the files, even after adding repositories
[09:57] <Bad_Magic> kitschx: nps
[09:57] <Chii_studies> afk :/
[09:57] <Jan_> Mr_Flibble: I just did
[09:57] <zarkoth> did the repositories server get back online?
[09:57] <Jan_> "dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privelidge"
[09:57] <hablandocontigo> hello, I'm on bitchx now, I reconfigured x to try to use the nvidia driver, now I can't boot into X, I tried VESA, also but I get an error message about "device not found"; anyone have any idea? Xorg -configure fails with "Missing output driver configuration failed"
[09:57] <tristanmike> steely, Breezy is the next Ubuntu release, it's released now, but is still in slight development, to be released Oct. 13,
[09:57] <test34> Jan_, use sudo
[09:57] <Mr_Flibble> Jan_, did all go well?
[09:57] <Ne453> vessuvius: you can install kubuntu-desktop in Ubuntu, and ubuntu-desktop in Kubuntu
[09:57] <steely> oh, no.
[09:57] <Bad_Magic> Jan_: sudo dpkg [etc] 
[09:57] <P229> hablandocontigo: what does "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep nvidia" give you?
[09:57] <steely> i'm using hoary
[09:58] <tristanmike> cool
[09:58] <Mr_Flibble> Jan_, oh, ok - do a sudo ./install-css.sh
[09:58] <Rikku> anyway... i'm gone.  if I can't even help people with their questions about ubuntu, then i guess it's your loss
[09:58] <kitschx> Bad_Magic, deFrysk: is there any difference between ftp and http for the official repositories? or should i change the ones i changed back?
[09:58] <hablandocontigo> P229 no lines returned
[09:58] <tristanmike> steely, Hoary is nice
[09:58] <Jan_> it went through a ton of stuff
[09:58] <Jan_> ending in "setting up libdvdcss2 (1.2.5-1)
[09:58] <steely> so far i haven't successfully installed a single program
[09:58] <Bad_Magic> kitschx: i would assume they house the same stuff... just different protocol for sending it back and forth... so there shouldnt be a problem
[09:58] <Jan_> But Totem produces the same error.
[09:59] <NSK> I would like to migrate a system from SUSE LINUX 9.3 Pro with KDE with to Ubuntu with GNOME, while keep using the same basic software (KMail and Konqueror) and also migrating my email and mail settings. Would just copying my KDE settings directory to Ubuntu work?
[09:59] <P229> hablandocontigo: I would try backing up xorg.conf, then deleting it (not the backup) and running Xorg -configure again
[09:59] <zarkoth> what if I keep getting this message - "Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[09:59] <zarkoth> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[09:59] <zarkoth> is only available from another source
[09:59] <zarkoth> E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate
[09:59] <zarkoth> "
[09:59] <npfet> hi.. is there a (relatively) easy way to setup postfix so all mail for the localhost is forwarded to a single address?
[10:00] <P229> hablandocontigo: if that doesn't work, there's something bigger going on
[10:00] <Bad_Magic> Jan_: http://ubuntuguide.org/#dvdplayback
[10:00] <hablandocontigo> P229 okay
[10:00] <Bateau_> how can i change to ISO-8859-15 in irssi?
[10:00] <Jan_> grumble
[10:00] <Jan_> apt seems as shitty as RPM
[10:00] <tristanmike> Bad_Magic, stop advising people to use ubuntuguide
[10:00] <Bad_Magic> why exactly?
[10:00] <Riddell> NSK: yes, copying over ~/.kde should be fine.  take a backup first.  you'll also need to copy over any e-mail directories
[10:00] <tristanmike> !ubotu tell Bad_Magic about ubuntuguide
[10:00] <NSK> Riddell: thanks
[10:01] <deFrysk> Bad_Magic, ubuntuguide is like your name
[10:01] <Chris_Tucker> When i try to print to a networked printer, by following this guide: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Debian-and-Windows-Shared-Printing.html#printing_to_windows , nothing shows up in the printer queue on the windows computer, and nothing prints
[10:01] <Bad_Magic> sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2 got dvd playback working for me
[10:01] <P229> hablandocontigo: oh... after installing the nvidia-glx package, did you run "nvidia-glx-configure enable" ?
[10:01] <Chris_Tucker> how do i fix this problem?
[10:01] <Jan_> Bad_Magic: I am concerned that "hoary" appears in the config line I was told to use
[10:01] <Jan_> but I'm not using it
[10:02] <daejavu> how do u get to run .wma  music/videos files on ur media players ?
[10:02] <P229> Bad_Magic: I don't think libdvdcss is in the repos for 5.10 yet (least I couldn't find it)
[10:02] <kitschx> Bad_Magic, deFrysk: still doesnt work. this time i completely removed the backport repositories and installed mozilla-firefox
[10:02] <Jan_> Oh great.
[10:02] <Jan_> Well, no DVD playback yet.
[10:02] <tristanmike> Jan_, maybe you should consider downloading Hoary and installing that, it is stable, Breezy will be released offically oct 13
[10:02] <Jan_> Grumble.
[10:02] <deFrysk> kitschx, also removed mozilla-firefox first ?
[10:02] <Mr_Flibble> Jan_, are you using totem or totem-xine?
[10:02] <P229> Jan_: did you run install-css.sh?
[10:02] <kitschx> deFrysk: yes
[10:02] <Bateau_> how can i change the character set to ISO-8859-15 in irssi?
[10:03] <Jan_> tristanmike: we were told to use Breezy. I'm sure if we download Hoary someone will tell us to use Breezy. It's a vicious circle with Linux.
[10:03] <kitschx> deFrysk: not complete removal though
[10:03] <Jan_> Mr_Flibble: Totem
[10:03] <Jan_> P229: Yes.
[10:03] <Mr_Flibble> Jan_, use totem-xine, it works
[10:03] <deFrysk> kitschx, I thought you told me you did not use the backports ?
[10:03] <Mr_Flibble> Jan_, totem sorta really doesn't
[10:03] <Bad_Magic> Jan_: Breezy is in beta release atm... as in its not finished yet
[10:03] <Jan_> do I have totem-xine?
[10:03] <kitschx> deFrysk: i thought i didnt, but i checked it and it seems like i did
[10:03] <NSK> Bateau_: I don't know but maybe people in #irssi can answer this question
[10:03] <Mr_Flibble> breezy is so close to final now that almost everything works
[10:03] <deFrysk> kitschx, I would purge it
[10:04] <kitschx> allright
[10:04] <Mr_Flibble> Jan_, aptitude install totem-xine
[10:04] <Jan_> I think we got breezy because it is supposed to have better laptop support
[10:04] <Jan_> but it doesn't hibernate
[10:04] <deFrysk> kitschx, and read the link in the topic , it tells you what to do
[10:04] <Mr_Flibble> Jan_, yep, so its fine - just work this problem or wait for 10 days when its final
[10:04] <kitschx> deFrysk, ok
[10:04] <xmms> yes
[10:04] <tristanmike> Jan_, haha, that's too bad, don't listen to them, I recommend using the stable release, I do, it's fine, untill you start to know a little bit more of what to do, I would stay with the stable releases
[10:04] <steely> tristanmike:  my snes9x still isn't showing up in synaptic
[10:05] <tristanmike> steely, you added the repos?
[10:05] <steely> yup
[10:05] <Jan_> E: could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg.lock - open (13 permission denied)
[10:05] <Bad_Magic> did you update?
[10:05] <Jan_> Update WHAT.
[10:05] <Bad_Magic> not you jan
[10:05] <Jan_> I've got like ten people telling me "run this, update that"
[10:05] <Mr_Flibble> Jan_, sudo aptitude install totem-xine
[10:05] <Jan_> Mr_Flibble: It provokes the error I listed
[10:05] <Jan_> and one other
[10:05] <tristanmike> steely, are you stuck on snes9x? would you consider Zsnes?
[10:05] <Jan_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory
[10:05] <Bad_Magic> Jan_ do you have synaptic open?
[10:06] <P229> let's elect one person to help out Jan_
[10:06] <Mr_Flibble> Jan_, its because synaptic is open
[10:06] <steely> i'm just trying to install my first app
[10:06] <Jan_> Is it?
[10:06] <hablandocontigo> P229 the exact error I still get is "Missing output drivers. Configuration failed." this'll be fun, I'll google it in links2
[10:06] <steely> i'm stuck on any snes
[10:06] <steely> hehe
[10:06] <steely> would znes be easier?
[10:06] <P229> hablandocontigo: what nvidia package did you install?
[10:07] <Bad_Magic> Jan_: When synaptic is open it "locks" all the files its using.... if you have it open close it and then run that command again
[10:07] <hablandocontigo> P229 mostly of them, one moment
[10:07] <tristanmike> steely, yes, I think so, plus it's better but that's in my own opinion
[10:07] <Jan_> any time I try to install stuff, it just says lots of things along the lines of "couldn't stat source package list...." then a URL
[10:07] <Jan_> followed by "couldn't find package xine-ui" orwhatever
[10:07] <steely> i'll see if it's at the debian oldlibrary site
[10:07] <Jan_> God this is worse than RPM
[10:07] <hablandocontigo> nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common nvidia-settings, these are from memor how do I show installed packges?
[10:08] <P229> hablandocontigo: all you should need is nvidia-glx
[10:08] <pandrew> Hello. I saw on the ubuntu site that they send FREE cds. Why do they do that , and how do they get the money for it?
[10:08] <deFrysk> Jan_, nothing is worse then rpm
[10:08] <Jan_> I added a line to sources.list
[10:08] <Jan_> but I'm not sure it's right
[10:08] <hablandocontigo> P229 I will uninstall rest
[10:08] <Jan_> so what am I doing
[10:08] <P229> pandrew: they're trying to gain market share, and I think they make money with support contracts
[10:08] <kitschx> deFrysk: is there a difference between purging and removing software?
[10:09] <kamiro1987> hello. does anyone know how ti get mp3's working?
[10:09] <kamiro1987> in ubuntu
[10:09] <Mr_Flibble> I saw the Mark Shuttleworth video from a recent debconf, he basically says that ubuntu doesn't make money (yet), and maybe won't ever
[10:09] <P229> !mp3
[10:09] <ubotu> hmm... mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[10:09] <hablandocontigo> P229 nvidia-glx includes nvidia-kernel-common and linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-8-386
[10:09] <deFrysk> kitschx, there indeed is , read man apt-get
[10:09] <kamiro1987> thankyou!
[10:09] <Jan_> anyone? please? or do I just install XP?
[10:09] <P229> hablandocontigo: then you want those
[10:10] <deFrysk> Jan_, be viral use XP ;p
[10:10] <pandrew> P229: so, it is perfectly ok to order from them (anything legal, anything i need to know?)
[10:10] <Jan_> OK, forget DVD.
[10:10] <hablandocontigo> P229 alright, now that I've reinstalled them, what is the next step?
[10:10] <tristanmike> steely, r u there?
[10:10] <P229> Jan_: same problem?
[10:10] <Jan_> What about hibernation.
[10:10] <Mr_Flibble> Jan_, XP doesn't play css video either heh:
[10:10] <deFrysk> Jan_, past your sources.list in pastebin please
[10:10] <Jan_> pastewhat?
[10:10] <Jan_> oh I know
[10:10] <Jan_> which one
[10:10] <deFrysk> Jan_, see topic the link is there
[10:10] <steely> tristanmike:  i just downloaded znes
[10:10] <P229> !dvd
[10:10] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras
[10:11] <tristanmike> steely, " wget http://sethkinast.com/ubuntu/hoary/b...4ubp1_i386.deb " without the quotes
[10:11] <Jan_> where is sources.list
[10:11] <bur[n] er> anyone familiar with using evolution & exchange in Breezy?
[10:11] <P229> hablandocontigo: nvidia-glx-configure enable
[10:11] <P229> as root
[10:11] <steely> at the command prompt?
[10:11] <steely> as root?
[10:11] <tristanmike> steely, yes
[10:11] <Necrosan> Can I use a 5.04 cd to get to breezy? or should i download the 5.10 rel?
[10:11] <bimberi> Jan_: /etc/apt
[10:11] <deFrysk> jan /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:11] <tristanmike> steely, NOT IN THE ROOT TERMINAL
[10:11] <Jan_> OK
[10:12] <tristanmike> steely, just in the regular terminal
[10:12] <Jan_> paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2520
[10:12] <steely> ok
[10:12] <deFrysk> tristanmike, caps caps caps
[10:12] <steely> hehe
[10:12] <steely> got ya worried
[10:12] <Necrosan> And what's Colony 5?
[10:12] <pandrew> P229: so, it is perfectly ok to order from them (anything legal, anything i need to know?)
[10:12] <sydw> Does anyone know why policy editing in firestarter is disabled by default?
[10:12] <tristanmike> deFrysk, I know, I had to stress not to run in root terminal
[10:12] <tristanmike> deFrysk, sorry
[10:12] <deFrysk> tristanmike, just kidding
[10:12] <tristanmike> lol
[10:12] <steely> hehe
[10:13] <P229> pandrew: yep, they don't ship anything they can't legally ship
[10:13] <thoreauputic> sydw: it isn't - right click inthe boxes
[10:13] <pandrew> P229: ok, thanks
[10:13] <deFrysk> Jan_, you have commented out most of your sources
[10:13] <deFrysk> Jan_, so this does not work
[10:13] <P229> hablandocontigo: did that work without any errors?
[10:13] <Jan_> I didn't comment anything out
[10:14] <krisp|ubuntu> hi guys
[10:14] <Jan_> what does "comment out" mean? :)
[10:14] <hablandocontigo> P229 are there any modules I have to switch off/on like I did setting up nvidia drivers for Debian? there are errors
[10:14] <deFrysk> Jan_, probaabluy you did that with synaptic
[10:14] <krisp|ubuntu> how do I update my system - I'm a real nooB
[10:14] <hablandocontigo> stuff like modules unresolved
[10:14] <P229> hablandocontigo: no, getting the nvidia drivers working for me was very simple. what were the errors?
[10:14] <P229> oh
[10:14] <steely> tristanmike:  i got some 404 errors
[10:15] <krisp|ubuntu> and is there any way to reduce visual styling to make it run faster?
[10:15] <Jan_> deFrysk: I ask once again, what's Synaptic
[10:15] <tristanmike> steely, after what? the wget line?
[10:15] <P229> hablandocontigo: sorry I left out the "sudo"... the command should be "sudo nvidia-glx-configure enable"
[10:15] <bimberi> Jan_: the programs using the file will ignore anything after the '#' character on a line
[10:15] <Necrosan> Well?
[10:15] <Necrosan> is someone gonna tell me what it is?
[10:15] <steely> yeah
[10:15] <deFrysk> Jan_, I'll make a correct one a sec please
[10:15] <kitschx> deFrysk, i did apt-get remove [all mozilla pkgs]  --purge, and reinstalled mozilla-firefox and gnome support, but it still doesnt work. somebody suggested i should temporarily move ~/.mozilla and restart, maybe i should try it...
[10:15] <P229> hablandocontigo: or did you run that command as root?
[10:15] <tristanmike> steely, it must be down right now
[10:16] <steely> what did that command do?
[10:16] <steely> besides nothing, heh
[10:16] <hablandocontigo> P229 I did that w/ sudo. one error is  xauth: error in locking authority file /home/myusername/.Xauthority
[10:16] <tristanmike> steely, wget is like saying "go to this website and get this package"
[10:17] <Jan_> Why do they supply a nonworking sources.list with Ubuntu?
[10:17] <ericz> anybody heard of a linux usb cable driver (for cell phone management) called ACM?
[10:17] <steely> essentially downloading stuff w/o firefox?
[10:17] <P229> hablandocontigo: hang on, let me start up my ubuntu machine
[10:17] <tristanmike> steely, I suppose, yes
[10:17] <hablandocontigo> P229 okay, thanks
[10:17] <Kyral> steely, wget is the cool way to download stuff ;P
[10:18] <steely> i'm not quite that cool yet
[10:18] <oO[NOVA] Oo> and an automated way to do so
[10:18] <tristanmike> Kyral, ;)
[10:18] <tristanmike> steely, your name is like Steely Dan, so you are very cool
[10:18] <deFrysk> Jan_, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2521 should work fine
[10:18] <P229> hablandocontigo: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[10:18] <Kyral> or just if you are downloading ISOs, pop to a VT, login, and then set the wget :P
[10:18] <kataklysm> hey everyone
[10:18] <steely> steely dan will forever be the greatest
[10:18] <Jan_> What did you change?
[10:18] <steely> i was born listening to pretzel logic
[10:19] <tristanmike> steely, see, cool as ice
[10:19] <Kyral> Anyone know if I should let Seahorse be configured to have SUID root?
[10:19] <deFrysk> Jan_, someone else did something in your source.list hence the hoary extras , is that correct ?
[10:19] <hablandocontigo> P229 5.10 : P
[10:20] <Jan_> deFrysk: That's what wiki.ubuntu.com said to do
[10:20] <hablandocontigo> P229 nvidia worked in 4.10 but 5.10 was using nv as default
[10:20] <Jan_> I did question it at the time
[10:20] <Jan_> but everyone was busy
[10:20] <deFrysk> Jan_, but you commented all the others
[10:20] <hablandocontigo> P229 I also had problems on windows when I upgraded my nvidia driver; I had to grab the beta for windows for my tnt2 riva
[10:20] <Mr_Flibble> deFrysk: I think the lines comes pre commented when you install from CD
[10:20] <deFrysk> could you copy the sources.list provided in that link into /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[10:21] <deFrysk> Mr_Flibble, not all of them
[10:21] <Jan_> I made the edits specified here:
[10:21] <Jan_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-ae79fed9d60ccdf06f400ae76ad53867d94bb2b8
[10:21] <Jan_> where does it keep "desktop" stuff?
[10:21] <Jan_> firefox downloaded that file to desktop
[10:21] <Jan_> and I don't know where that is
[10:21] <stpere> /home/Jan_/Desktop
[10:21] <kataklysm> deFrysk: you could overwrite a sources.list with that, yes
[10:21] <selinium> Hi guys, i have got winetools install but i cant seem to get rid of it.. Any ideas?
[10:21] <P229> hablandocontigo: you upgraded from 4.10?
[10:21] <Jan_> the user is called "morat"
[10:21] <thoreauputic> Jan_: note the upper case in that
[10:21] <hablandocontigo> P229 another yes : P
[10:22] <deFrysk> Jan_,  cd Desktop
[10:22] <krisp|ubuntu> guys - how to I get vnc working in ubuntu?
[10:22] <kataklysm> cd $HOME/Dekstop
[10:22] <krisp|ubuntu> please someone help :)
[10:22] <deFrysk> Jan_,  is the file on your deskopt now ?
[10:22] <Jan_> ok, copied that across to sources.list
[10:22] <deFrysk> good jan :)
[10:22] <selinium> winetools says it isn't installed but it is there if I 'wine+tab'
[10:22] <selinium> How do i get rid
[10:22] <selinium> ?
[10:22] <Jan_> yes, we did sudo cp /home/morat/Desktop/post_2521.txt /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:22] <deFrysk> now apt-get update
[10:22] <deFrysk> Jan_,
[10:23] <kataklysm> Jan_ are you using Breezy???
[10:23] <Jan_> Yes
[10:23] <kataklysm> ok
[10:23] <Jan_> It says "E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 permission deined)"
[10:23] <kataklysm> then just apt-get update like deFrysk said
[10:23] <P229> hablandocontigo: can you delete your .Xauthority file?
[10:23] <hablandocontigo> P229 will try
[10:23] <Jan_> then "E: Unable to lock the list directory"
[10:23] <deFrysk> Jan_, use sudo , close synaptic
[10:24] <Jan_> I never had synaptic open
[10:24] <krisp|ubuntu> guys?
[10:24] <krisp|ubuntu> any thoughts>?
[10:24] <deFrysk> use sudo
[10:24] <Jan_> OK, still a couple 404s, but mainly OK
[10:24] <kataklysm> do you have aptitude open?
[10:24] <stormie> hi, is there a way to install gcc from the ubuntu cd?
[10:24] <deFrysk> Jan_, sudo  apt-get update
[10:24] <kataklysm> yea sudo apti-get
[10:24] <hablandocontigo> P229 did that, I will try startx
[10:24] <Jan_> it's working
[10:24] <alucard> kaneis ellhnas?
[10:24] <kataklysm> -i
[10:24] <Jan_> a few 404s
[10:24] <Jan_> but it's mainly downloading stuff.
[10:24] <thoreauputic> stormie: install build-essential
[10:24] <hablandocontigo> P229 : ) that eliminated one of the errors
[10:25] <chx> Ubuntu Breezy and Skype. Anyone running it?
[10:25] <hablandocontigo> P229 is it safe to delete .xinitrc?
[10:25] <Jan_> Then a whole load of failures like "W: couldn't stat source package list..." and a URL
[10:25] <deFrysk> Jan_, I forgot to comment the backport extra would you please do that and then try agasin ?
[10:25] <deFrysk> again
[10:25] <Jan_> what the what?
[10:25] <kataklysm> build-essential didnt come with all the gcc stuff when i did it
[10:25] <stormie> can i do that without reinstalling ubuntu?
[10:25] <kataklysm> stormie yes
[10:25] <thoreauputic> kataklsym7413: what was missing?
[10:25] <Jan_> oh, you want me to put a # before the line I put in?
[10:25] <marska> Howdy.. I was wondering when the Ubuntu boards will be back up?
[10:25] <sydw> thoreauputic, thanks!
[10:26] <deFrysk> Jan_, deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted needs to be commented out
[10:26] <kataklysm> you need to get make, build-essential, and i'm pretty sure a gcc off the repos
[10:26] <deFrysk> in your sources.list
[10:26] <Jan_> OK done
[10:26] <Jan_> Now apt-get update runs with no errors
[10:26] <kataklysm> i can look and make sure
[10:26] <deFrysk> now again apt-get update
[10:26] <stormie> hmm
[10:26] <kitschx> deFrysk: im gonna try temporarily moving ~/.mozilla, restart and see if theres any difference then
[10:26] <deFrysk> Jan_, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:26] <thoreauputic> kataklysm: doesn't match my experience at all ...
[10:26] <JustSteve> hey, i am having trouble with video playback being choppy in Totem(playing an xvid avi) i have dma turned on for all my drives. does anyone have any suggestions?
[10:26] <Jan_> don't I already HAVE ubuntu-desktop?
[10:26] <stormie> so how do i go about installing these from the cd?
[10:26] <Noah0504> Will someone explain to me the way Linux is set up?  I'm so use to Windows, and I feel it's a bit more organized.  A Certain folder for programs, documents, system files...Linux is just scattered all over the place--well, it seems that way...
[10:27] <deFrysk> jack-, I thought you had removed mozilla firefox ?
[10:27] <Jan_> anyway, shouldn't that be ubuntu-laptop :)
[10:27] <thoreauputic> Noah0504: not at all - just a different organising method
[10:27] <Madpilot> Noah0504: the operating system itself in Linux keeps track of more stuff, so you don't have to as much
[10:27] <deFrysk> Jan_, ubuntu-deskop
[10:27] <Jan_> it's working
[10:27] <deFrysk> stry it please
[10:27] <deFrysk> good
[10:27] <Jan_> But we must get hibernation working
[10:28] <Jan_> that's non negotiable
[10:28] <kataklysm> thoreauputic: depends on what your building,  i had to have gcc-3.4 and gcc-4.0  in breezy, and they were'nt auto flagged by build essential, also i got make and MAKEDEV...   build-essential didnt come with everything
[10:28] <deFrysk> Jan_, also do a dist-upgrade
[10:28] <Jan_> how?
[10:28] <Noah0504> Well, would I be safe just keeping pretty much all of my stuff in my Home folder?
[10:28] <deFrysk> \when desktop is done , sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:28] <thoreauputic> kataklysm: Iah, OK you had more specialised needs
[10:28] <kataklysm> build-essential is just that, essential stuff
[10:28] <hablandocontigo> P229 "failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X driver not found)" should the nvidia-glx-config resolve that? I will try
[10:28] <Jan_> OK
[10:28] <Jan_> what will that do
[10:28] <Jan_> upgrade the whole OS?
[10:28] <deFrysk> Jan_, update breezy to the latest
[10:28] <Madpilot> Noah0504: that's where you're supposed to keep your own files, pretty much.
[10:28] <Kromonos> how to rename discs at computer:/// ??
[10:29] <thoreauputic> kataklysm: yup
[10:29] <kataklysm> thoreauputic: yea but its pretty common that most people need those things
[10:29] <waseem> hi, im trying to set up my wireless network on linux on my laptop. the hard drive is partitioned with Windows and the internet is already set up on that, I was wondering if anyone knew how to make it work on linux
[10:29] <mopatop> anyone know if there's a boot parameter for the hoary install that will let me install with a linux 2.6 kernel? sata problems
[10:29] <gytis> hi everybody
[10:29] <kataklysm> it'd be nice if they were in build-essential
[10:29] <P229> hablandocontigo: sorry, I'm back
[10:29] <sydw> The person I installed ubuntu for now cannot access google.ca, google.com, or googlesyndication.com, even though all those sites can be ping'ed. What could be going on? Other sites (that don't contain google references) can be viewed no problem.
[10:29] <thoreauputic> kataklysm: "make" is included, actually
[10:29] <marska> Where are the Universal archives located? (This Ubunut vs. Debian compatibility thing is atrocious)
[10:30] <selinium> Hi guys I install winetools from a walktrough in the forum, the forum is down at the mo. Apt and dpkg are unaware of the install. How do i get rid of it?
[10:30] <sydw> telnet www.google.com 80 just sites there connecting and never times out
[10:30] <gytis> where could I get the java-package? should I add some repository to my source.list? which one? thanks
[10:30] <Jan_> OK, ubuntu-desktop is done
[10:30] <hablandocontigo> P229 okay my latest error is "Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X driver not found)
[10:30] <kataklysm> thoreauputic: hmm in breezy i installed make and build-essential seperate, never got any errors
[10:30] <deFrysk> selinium, wait till the forum is back up and ask there i guess
[10:30] <hablandocontigo> P229 after deleting xinitrc, xorg.conf and Xauthority
[10:30] <Jan_> Woah, dist-upgrade is 76 megs!
[10:30] <concept10> im about to upgrade breezy ... (crosses fingers)
[10:30] <denn_> anyone know how to get ytmnd's to work in ubuntu?
[10:30] <hablandocontigo> P229 and even after sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[10:31] <kataklysm> thoreauputic: usually it will say so and so is part of another package....
[10:31] <thoreauputic> kataklysm: well, you wouldn't get an error installing make expliitly
[10:31] <concept10> Jan_: to upgrade to breezy?
[10:31] <Noah0504> I'm going to attempt to make the switch to Linux, so I'm just asking about the simple stuff I suppose.
[10:31] <selinium> deFrysk, ok cheers
[10:31] <ericz> anyone heard of like a usb cable driver ACM?
[10:31] <Jan_> concept10: to upgrade the breezy I already have
[10:31] <P229> hablandocontigo: Xorg -configure
[10:31] <deFrysk> Jan_, is doing a proper update
[10:31] <ericz> anyone :-/ ?
[10:31] <mopatop> anyone know if there's a boot parameter for the hoary install that will let me install with a linux 2.6 kernel? sata problems
[10:31] <kitsch> deFrysk: after i moved .mozilla to a temporary dir, restarted and then moved  it back again, firefox works fine. you should write that in your blog :) thanks a million for your time
[10:31] <boxerboy29> defrysk: im gonna assume and say that the apt-get dist-upgrade conbines in the updates we get everyday?
[10:32] <thoreauputic> kataklysm: in hoary apt-cache depends shows gcc g++ make and dpkg-dev
[10:32] <kataklysm> thoreauputic: i cant argue that fact lol, i just know when i set up my machine i installed everything i knew i might need, so i wouldnt have to go back and do it later
[10:32] <bimberi> mopatop: hoary installs a 2.6 kernel by default
[10:32] <sydw> ericz, ACM Association for Computing Machinery?
[10:32] <concept10> im about to do dist-upgrade, i hope it doesnt bork my system
[10:32] <deFrysk> kitsch, thank the blogger, not me ;)
[10:32] <ericz> uhh no
[10:32] <hablandocontigo> P229 gives me the "no output driver error"
[10:32] <ericz> just a driver or something for usb data cable
[10:32] <ericz> for a samsung cell phone
[10:32] <mopatop> bimberi: oh.. shit, that's not good news :)
[10:32] <kitsch> deFrysk: thought it was you, but thanks anyway :)
[10:32] <Jan_> This is the eqivalent of Windows Update, right?
[10:32] <krisp|ubuntu> anyone feel like helping get vnc sorted?
[10:32] <hablandocontigo> P229 "missing output drivers"*
[10:32] <thoreauputic> kataklysm: sure - I'm not arguing - more curious as to what differences breezy might have :)
[10:32] <mopatop> Jan_: no Windows Update is the equivalent of this, but ye :P
[10:32] <Andrew> seveas, you there?
[10:33] <concept10> whoa - 517 packages
[10:33] <bimberi> mopatop: i know, sorry i'm not experienced with sata issues
[10:33] <deFrysk> kitsch, glad I could guide you ;)
[10:33] <kataklysm> thoreauputic: seems like quiet a few actually!
[10:33] <creart> Hey all... which package would you favour for getting Quicktime ??
[10:33] <mopatop> bimberi: that's okay :)
[10:33] <Jan_> what are our actual chances of getting it to hibernate properly?
[10:33] <P229> Seveas: think you might be able to lend a hand to hablandocontigo ?
[10:33] <mopatop> Jan_: slim heh
[10:33] <kataklysm> thoreauputic: i never used hoary, but I have seen a lot of things in here that makes me glad i didnt haha
[10:33] <Jan_> Then this is probably all a total waste of time
[10:33] <Jan_> I was told it'd work
[10:33] <deFrysk> Jan_, not really , windows updates are late non effective and bloated
[10:33] <Jan_> Bloated, god, this dist-update is 76 meg
[10:33] <Chris_Tucker> Yikes!
[10:33] <Chris_Tucker> my lag is up around 30s
[10:33] <kataklysm> thoreauputic: i have used debian woody and sarge a lot, but breezy puts them both under the table imo
[10:34] <krisp|ubuntu> anyone?
[10:34] <Noah0504> Okay, well, when I come back in about 45 minutes, I'll be in my fresh install of Ubuntu!
[10:34] <kamiro87> hello. i followed the insructions on the restrictedformats page but i'm getting some errors
[10:34] <Jan_> kamiro87: Me too.
[10:34] <bimberi> krisp|ubuntu: what is the problem?
[10:34] <deFrysk> Jan_, breezy is still under development , most of the updates are still bugfixes
[10:34] <kamiro87> Failed to fetch http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-extras/restrict/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[10:34] <kamiro87> Reading package lists... Done
[10:34] <kamiro87> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-extras/restrict Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net_dists_hoary-extras_restrict_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:34] <kamiro87> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[10:34] <thoreauputic> kataklysm: well actually hoary did as well ( i used to use woody and sid)
[10:34] <kamiro87> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[10:34] <krisp|ubuntu> bimberi,  I jsut don't know how on earth to set up a vnc server?
[10:34] <hablandocontigo> do I have to do anything special in knoppix to be able to move and edit my files on all more linux partitions just as if I were the normal user?
[10:34] <Chris_Tucker> i hate dialup
[10:34] <Jan_> God, what was THAT
[10:34] <deFrysk> kamiro87, see what topic says about backports ;)
[10:34] <Chris_Tucker> 46s!
[10:35] <kataklysm> thoreauputic: i found a cd i had back in school of slackware 3.2 lol
[10:35] <krisp|ubuntu> any ideas?
[10:35] <concept10> 848 upgraded, 283 newly installed, 48 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[10:35] <concept10> Need to get 585MB of archives.
[10:35] <bimberi> krisp|ubuntu: ah, ok, open synaptic and search for "vnc"
[10:35] <krisp|ubuntu> bimberi, already done
[10:35] <boxerboy29> concept10: going from hoary to breezy?
[10:35] <krisp|ubuntu> the boxes are green
[10:35] <concept10> boxerboy29: yes
[10:36] <concept10> Im scared to press 'y'
[10:36] <boxerboy29> dont be scared
[10:36] <thoreauputic> kataklysm: you could make a useful thin client with that and an old pentium ;)
[10:36] <deFrysk> concept10, then press "n"
[10:36] <concept10> heh
[10:36] <unkn0wn2u> does anyone get failed to initialize hal error on gnome statup
[10:36] <boxerboy29> breezy is a good  os
[10:36] <bimberi> krisp: do you have a preference for which vnc server to use, there are a few
[10:36] <krisp|ubuntu> bimberi,  no
[10:36] <krisp|ubuntu> I have jsut installed ubuntu
[10:36] <krisp|ubuntu> and have never used linux before
[10:36] <krisp|ubuntu> I'ma  windows convert
[10:36] <pablo928> krisp|ubuntu:you might check http://ubuntuguide.org. I believe it tells you how to setup vnc
[10:36] <krisp|ubuntu> bimberi,  feel like talking me through step by step :P?
[10:37] <Jan_> Us too, krisp
[10:37] <Jan_> And it's not been a great experience...
[10:37] <deFrysk> noooo NOT UBUNTUGUIDE!!!
[10:37] <kataklysm> thoreauputic: yes i thought of that!  actually me and one of my friends were thinking about setting up internet terminals at coffe shops
[10:37] <Jan_> Tons of stuff isn't expected to work.
[10:37] <boxerboy29> i didnt say it this time lmao
[10:37] <tristanmike> !ubotu tell pablo928 about ubuntuguide
[10:37] <deFrysk> pablo928, NOT UBUNTUGUIDE!!!
[10:37] <Madpilot> !tell krisp|ubuntu about vnc
[10:37] <Madpilot> !+ubuntuguide
[10:37] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[10:37] <bimberi> krisp|ubuntu: you might not need to install it at all then ... have a look at System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop
[10:37] <thoreauputic> kataklysm: remote X is a great way to recycle old boxen :)
[10:37] <abuntic> can someone help me my firefox seems to not work
[10:38] <bimberi> abuntic: /topic
[10:38] <kataklysm> thoreauputic: i know, its just the fact that the peripherals cost more than the whole pc is worth lol..
[10:38] <deFrysk> abuntic, read topic and never use backports again
[10:38] <deFrysk> ;p
[10:38] <thoreauputic> kataklysm: heh - true
[10:38] <bobokaka> hey all..
[10:38] <unkn0wn2u> does anyone get failed to initialize hal error on gnome statup
[10:38] <krisp|ubuntu> this is so tricky
[10:38] <boxerboy29> defrysk: what do back ports do and if bad why were they made?
[10:38] <pablo928> ubotu-I didn't know about ubuntuguide, I used it awhile ago to help me setup vnc
[10:38] <concept10> too bad the download is only 200 kb/s
[10:39] <boxerboy29> oh and should i delete mine
[10:39] <bimberi> krisp|ubuntu: did you look at Remote Desktop?
[10:39] <deFrysk> boxerboy29, made by outsiders and no support whet things go wrong there
[10:39] <tristanmike> pablo928, ubotu is a bot, not a person
[10:39] <deFrysk> when*
[10:39] <Jan_> Aw!
[10:39] <krisp|ubuntu> bimberi,  am there now
[10:39] <krisp|ubuntu> cheers
[10:39] <Jan_> I was TALKING to ubotu in private message!
[10:39] <krisp|ubuntu> how do I find out my IP?
[10:39] <Jan_> Grr!
[10:39] <selinium> can i just delete all installed foile to remove a program?
[10:39] <bobokaka> got a questy: I want to go linux. I have win XP on my PC, and I was wondering, if I can install ubuntu on a diffrent HD on my pc which will be only for linux?
[10:39] <boxerboy29> ok the multis are ok tho right?
[10:39] <Ninjew> Does anybody have any experience with setting up freenx?
[10:39] <deFrysk> Jan_, ubotu is nice but a bot
[10:39] <selinium> can i just delete all installed files to remove a program?
[10:39] <deFrysk> :D
[10:40] <boxerboy29> bobokaka: yes
[10:40] <bimberi> krisp|ubuntu: open a terminal and type "ip a"
[10:40] <selinium> krisp, ifconfig
[10:40] <Jan_> Gah. 52
[10:40] <concept10> boxerboy29: did you go from hoary to breezy?
[10:40] <bobokaka> how?
[10:40] <Jan_> 52 minutes to run dist-update
[10:40] <Jan_> Gruh.
[10:40] <deFrysk> boxerboy29, multi uni is fine yes
[10:40] <boxerboy29> concept i did but turned around and burned breezy
[10:40] <krisp> bimberi: yay I'm in
[10:40] <denn_> anyone know of alternative to OpenOffice?
[10:40] <concept10> Jan_: me too and I have cable
[10:40] <boxerboy29> defrysk: ty
[10:40] <thoreauputic> bimberi: may I /msg you briefly?
[10:40] <deFrysk> denn_, abiword :)
[10:40] <NSK> denn_: KOffice
[10:40] <pablo928> ubotu is a bot? I thought that was just a joke!
[10:40] <ubotu> pablo928: Are you smoking crack?
[10:40] <Jan_> denn_: There's a small company in Redmond, Washington who make some very competent office software.
[10:40] <bobokaka> boxerboy29: may I msg you?
[10:40] <deFrysk> no abiword
[10:41] <deFrysk> ;p
[10:41] <krisp> Is there anything I should install on my box? how do I make the hard drive readable from Windows Boxes?
[10:41] <kataklysm> what ever happened to the old Sun Star Office?
[10:41] <denn_> jan_, it doesn't work for linux
[10:41] <NSK> denn_: apart from OpenOffice.org there is KOffice, Gnumeric, and AbiWord
[10:41] <stpere> kataklysm, they still sell it
[10:41] <boxerboy29> bobokaka: may i ask what you are having problems with?
[10:41] <Jan_> krisp: The reason this laptop is not dual booting WinXP and Ubuntu is that Ubuntu can't read windows drives and windows can't read ubuntu drives
[10:41] <Jan_> it's a major problem
[10:41] <stpere> kataklysm, it's a rebranding of OpenOffice plus some minor modifications
[10:41] <denn_> i'll check them out, thanks
[10:41] <bobokaka> I'm a bit afraid of the whole installation thingy
[10:41] <stpere> they are at StarOffice 7.0
[10:41] <bimberi> krisp: you'll need samba for that
[10:41] <_jason> Hey, I want to make sure I keep my system organized.  Where should I put programs I install such as maple?
[10:41] <kataklysm> stpere: i remember it use to be packaged with all kinds of distros, now everything is abisuite or Openoffice
[10:41] <Jan_> one day they will get off their asses and write an NTFS driver for Linux
[10:41] <deFrysk> !tell Jan_ about ntfs
[10:41] <bimberi> ubotu tekk krisp about samba
[10:41] <ubotu> bimberi: Are you smoking crack?
[10:42] <Jan_> yes, deFrysk, I know but one that WORKS.
[10:42] <boxerboy29> bobokaka when you install ubuntu it will ask where you want to put it just put it on your other hard drive
[10:42] <bimberi> ubotu tell krisp about samba
[10:42] <Jan_> BOTH WAYS.
[10:42] <deFrysk> Jan_, read what ubotu send you
[10:42] <concept10> 480 packages to go... I need to reduce some of the packages on my system
[10:42] <kataklysm> is staroffice still pretty good?
[10:42] <tristanmike> Jan_, you make a FAT partition to share data
[10:42] <santium> how can i make apt-get use http mirrors instead of cd?
[10:42] <Jan_> tristanmike, no I don't.
[10:42] <Jan_> I use windows :(
[10:42] <stpere> kataklysm, yes, I use it sometimes
[10:42] <deFrysk> Jan_, windows will NEVER read linux
[10:42] <concept10> santium: # comment out the cd line
[10:42] <bimberi> santium: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out the deb-cdrom line
[10:42] <stpere> kataklysm, it's really like OpenOffice
[10:42] <kataklysm> stpere: so they sell it? they dont provide source to it?
[10:43] <bobokaka> boxerboy29: and it won't interfere with windows and vice verse?
[10:43] <thoreauputic> bimberi: Ok to /msg you? Did you see my request above?
[10:43] <boxerboy29> not on seprate hard drives no
[10:43] <obontu> hello
[10:43] <tristanmike> Jan_, the FAT partition can be read to and written to by both Linux and Windows
[10:43] <bimberi> thoreauputic: sry, i didn't - please feel free :)
[10:43] <obontu> how do i update x-chat?
[10:43] <stpere> kataklysm, yep, they are selling it
[10:43] <thoreauputic> bimberi: OK :)
[10:43] <stpere> no sources
[10:43] <Jan_> deFrysk: Well, it should be easier to write an ext3 driver for NT than it is to write an NTFS drver for Linux
[10:43] <norhted> hi everybody, i have a boot problem, does anyone want to help?
[10:43] <concept10> after I upgrade to breezy, does it include the new boot sequence?
[10:43] <pablo928> deFrysk: but I did one thing opn a dual boot box, i setup a fat32 partition that i can read &write with either os
[10:44] <boxerboy29> that person that was asking about a different office that open office
[10:44] <deFrysk> Jan_, its not about ease it about M$ policy
[10:44] <boxerboy29> whats wrong with open office?
[10:44] <bobokaka> o.k. thank you.
[10:44] <boxerboy29> yw bobkaka
[10:44] <kataklysm> stpere: i didnt know that openoffice was mad by sun til just now, of course i never use office apps anymore lol...
[10:44] <bobokaka> oh, can I make windows not touch the linux drive?
[10:44] <Jan_> deFrysk: that's why linux can't have a decent NTFS driver, yeah, but that's NOT any reason why an ext3 driver couldn't be written for windows
[10:44] <boxerboy29> windows by default wont touch linux drive unless you do it
[10:44] <kataklysm> so i guess openoffice is considered staroffices open suite
[10:45] <Madpilot> Jan_: I think there is a ext2/ext3 driver for Windows already... ask Google
[10:45] <stpere> kataklysm, got it :-P
[10:45] <deFrysk> Jan_, then write one ;)
[10:45] <Artimus> When I try to run startx, it says that my NVIDIA kernel module is 1.0.7174, but the X module is 1.0.7667.
[10:45] <bobokaka> it automaticly puts the recycle bin and some other small system stuffs there
[10:45] <norhted> hello guys, i have a boot problem!!! :)
[10:45] <deFrysk> Madpilot, is there ?
[10:45] <tristanmike> Jan_, because Microsoft keeps all source code to themselves so it has to be reverse engineered by people like you and me
[10:45] <boxerboy29> bobokaka with 2 hard drives windows on one linux on the other windows and linux will never meet
[10:45] <Jan_> tristanmike: Like I keep saying, yes that's why Linux can't read NTFS.
[10:46] <Jan_> But that's no reason why there shouldn't be an ext3 driver for windows.
[10:46] <tristanmike> Jan_, no, that's why it can't write
[10:46] <Madpilot> deFrysk: I'm pretty sure I've heard other people mention it here... I'm Windows-free, so I haven't bothered looking into it...
[10:46] <kataklysm> well to write a driver for windows for filesystem compatability you have to have some windows source
[10:46] <kataklysm> or be a damn good guesser
[10:46] <norhted> Jan_, can you help me with my boot problem?
[10:46] <boxerboy29> bobokaka: hda and hdb are seprate hard drives the numbers after each one tell you what partion it is
[10:46] <deFrysk> Madpilot, we the free are loosing track of windows development I guess
[10:47] <kataklysm> thats why ext3 for windows is hard to get working....  but there are some 3rd party software to enable it, however i wouldnt recommend it
[10:47] <Chris_Tucker> Jan_: tristanmike, there is an ext3 access driver for windows, one minute i'll see if i can find the site i got it off of
[10:47] <bobokaka> should I make more than one partition for linux?
[10:47] <tristanmike> Jan_, I believe there is a program that will allow you to access a Linux filesystem, but to what extent I don't know, and where to get it....wait, Chris_Tucker will give you
[10:47] <kataklysm> bobokaka you at least need a / partition and a seperate /home  partition
[10:47] <Jan_> Given that ext3 is opensource, y'know...
[10:47] <Jan_> you'd have thought it oughta be possible
[10:48] <deFrysk> bobokaka,  a swap and a / will do , a /home is handy to have however
[10:48] <boxerboy29> bobokaka let the installer automaticlly make the partions just make sure if windows is on hda that you put and erase only hdb
[10:48] <norhted> kataklysm, i have winXP and Ubuntu, but experiencing problem with GRUB
[10:48] <sydw> Jan_, http://www.fs-driver.org/download.html is not Free as in Speech, but it is free as in beer
[10:48] <Chris_Tucker> oops, my bad, it appears what i have is only ext2
[10:48] <FX|Laptop> Hello
[10:48] <oneifreak> Jan_: http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html
[10:48] <kataklysm> ext3 is open source, but windows isnt,  its hard to write an app that access's the core of windows when you don't already have the code for how that core is laid out
[10:48] <FX|Laptop> Hey I have a question
[10:48] <oneifreak> Jan_: ext2 only
[10:48] <Madpilot> Jan_: the trouble is likely the other end - Windows not being opensource...
[10:48] <santium> why doesnt ' sudo apt-get install php4-mysql ' work anymore?
[10:48] <bobokaka> will the installer allow me to format the 2nd drive?
[10:48] <Jan_> of course it isn't opensource
[10:48] <FX|Laptop> Firefox failed on upgrade and now I cannot start it
[10:48] <Jan_> it's commercial
[10:49] <boxerboy29> bobokaka yes
[10:49] <FX|Laptop> any ideas on how to start it?
[10:49] <oneifreak> Jan_: but its usable with ext3
[10:49] <kataklysm> norhted: what kind of problems?
[10:49] <FX|Laptop> or upgrade it
[10:49] <deFrysk> FX|Laptop, topic and never use backports again!!
[10:49] <_jason> \topic
[10:49] <norhted> kataklysm, i installed ubuntu 5 minutes ago;
[10:49] <bobokaka> what do I need to do in order for the installer to NOT touch the 1st drive?
[10:49] <aigarius> I have seen somewhere an open source ext3 driver
[10:49] <boxerboy29> bobokaka it will ask you what hd you want to formatt and install linux on dont choose the same drive that windows is on
[10:50] <tristanmike> Jan_, here is a program that will let you copy files from your Linux system to WindowsOS, read more to find out if it suits your needs. http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm
[10:50] <norhted> kataklysm, i have a winXP which installed on primary slave drive
[10:50] <Chris_Tucker> EXT2IFS is an Installable File System Driver (IFS) for Microsoft Windows NT 4.0,
[10:50] <Chris_Tucker> Microsoft Windows 2000 (NT 5.0) and Microsoft Windows XP (NT 5.1)
[10:50] <Chris_Tucker> The driver can read the Second Extended File System (EXT2) and Third Extended
[10:50] <Chris_Tucker> File System (EXT3). The driver is read only.
[10:50] <kataklysm> aigarius: there are a few ext3 drivers for windows, they are experimental just like the ntfs drivers for linux
[10:50] <boxerboy29> bobokaka yoiu dont need anything except knowledge of where windows is and where you wan tto put linux
[10:50] <bobokaka> how can I know the diffrence between them?
[10:50] <deFrysk> Chris_Tucker, dond flood you'll be banned de4 you know it
[10:50] <durt> how do you get a game to work with wine, and the cd has to be in when you play, and it cant find the cd?
[10:50] <Chris_Tucker> Jan_: tristanmike, read what i pasted
[10:51] <boxerboy29> is windows on the "master hard drive"?
[10:51] <norhted> kataklysm, but when i started, i saw the windows' boot page instead of grup; it has winlilo and winxp options
[10:51] <bobokaka> yes
[10:51] <bobokaka> well actualy
[10:51] <boxerboy29> ok than windows is on hda
[10:51] <tristanmike> Chris_Tucker, nice, check out the program I posted
[10:51] <norhted> kataklysm, both selection open the windows,
[10:51] <kataklysm> Chris_Tucker: i got fussed at for taking someones side that pasted a few simple lines yesterday, and i got kicked for doing so, so i  will just warn ya they get all mad for pasting in here!
[10:51] <boxerboy29> do not erase that one
[10:51] <bobokaka> I didn't put the second drive in the comp yet
[10:51] <boxerboy29> just go slow and read
[10:51] <oneifreak> Chris_Tucker: http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html gives you _read_ and _write_
[10:51] <Chris_Tucker> deFrysk: i am not flooding. i am assisting
[10:51] <Jan_> Anyway  - what do we do about hibernating this thing
[10:51] <Jan_> suspend to RAM would be fine
[10:51] <norhted> kataklysm, i deleted the first one, then, i checked the BIOS,
[10:52] <kataklysm> Winlilo?
[10:52] <bobokaka> I will put it just before the first boot with the linux cd
[10:52] <zarkoth> It seems as though the apt-get refuses to work correctly for mp3 codecs, any ideas?
[10:52] <boxerboy29> well than you might want to do that unless you want windows and linux sharing hard drive and you sound like a newbie
[10:52] <kataklysm> ive never experienced linux editing my boot.ini
[10:52] <norhted> kataklysm, i dont know what it is, but it is something that ubuntu added to windwos boot.ini
[10:52] <FX|Laptop> anyone have any ideas about my firefox problem?
[10:52] <kataklysm> norhted: did you install GRUB to the MBR??
[10:52] <hablandocontigo> P229 strangley, I reboot and it's back to the way it was before I changed to nvidia driver
[10:52] <boxerboy29> i always let the partioner do its thing automaticlly
[10:52] <norhted> kataklysm, Yes i did
[10:52] <deFrysk> FX|Laptop, read the topic
[10:53] <boxerboy29> but when you share a drive you have to do it manually
[10:53] <kataklysm> norhted: try to change your boot order in the bios
[10:53] <bobokaka> what about the boot - will the installer set the boot choice program on its own?
[10:53] <Jan_> Hey, SAMBA works out of the box :)
[10:53] <Jan_> Spiffy, eh
[10:53] <norhted> kataklysm, yes i did it too, but now GRUB cannot load windowsXP; it says Unknown partition type
[10:53] <boxerboy29> yes grub should see windows and ask you where to put grub put it on the mbr
[10:53] <kataklysm> ahh
[10:54] <durt> whats wrong with backports?
[10:54] <norhted> kataklysm, do you think the entry in the windows' boot.ini really required by GRUB
[10:54] <Jan_> Whaaat! Totem doesn't come with an MP3 PLAYER?!?!
[10:54] <deFrysk> !tell durt about backports
[10:54] <bobokaka> I know what is a MBR but I don't think I know where it is..
[10:54] <Madpilot> Jan_: you need to install mp3 codecs
[10:54] <Jan_> What? Why?
[10:54] <Madpilot> !tell Jan_ about mp3
[10:54] <kataklysm> norhted: it almost sounds like you installed lilo and grub both
[10:54] <Jan_> Ubuntu doesn't COME with any? God!
[10:54] <deFrysk> !tell Jan_ about mp3
[10:54] <shawnz> could not open default font 'fixed'
[10:54] <boxerboy29> MBR= master boot record
[10:54] <shawnz> uh
[10:54] <deFrysk> darn too late :s
[10:54] <lucaas> any good gtk ftp client, other than gftp?
[10:54] <zarkoth> of course it doesn't, it's all legal stuff
[10:54] <Madpilot> Jan_: legal bumpf - mp3 has patents on it
[10:54] <Jan_> Why on earth not?
[10:54] <bobokaka> that one I know
[10:54] <bur[n] er> Jan_: they can't
[10:54] <Jan_> Sure they can.
[10:55] <Jan_> Everyone else does.
[10:55] <shawnz> anyone been able to fix "could not open default font 'fixed'" error with xvnc?
[10:55] <norhted> kataklysm, :( opps, how did i do that :( i just followed the instructions
[10:55] <bur[n] er> Jan_: not legally
[10:55] <Madpilot> not legally, they can't
[10:55] <zarkoth> everyone else pays for it....
[10:55] <boxerboy29> if im remember right MBR =hda0
[10:55] <deFrysk> Jan_, read what ubotu send you
[10:55] <zarkoth> or does it illegally
[10:55] <kataklysm> norhted: i really dont have any idea
[10:55] <thegeekdom> Hey, I am considering ubuntu over suse.  I use spamassasin to control spam but did not see it in ubuntu.  Am I missing something.
[10:55] <durt> deFrysk, that didnt tell me whats wrong with backports
[10:55] <bur[n] er> thegeekdom: check universe and multiverse?
[10:55] <Madpilot> thegeekdom: it's in the Universe repos
[10:56] <kataklysm> if you could paste.ubuntulinux.nl   then i might could help ya norhted
[10:56] <bobokaka> so if my windows HD is splitted into 2 partitions, I can just put the grub anywhere I want?
[10:56] <thegeekdom> Universe ?
[10:56] <boxerboy29> thegeekdom: spamassasine in is in synaptic in ubuntu
[10:56] <bur[n] er> thegeekdom: it's in universe
[10:56] <norhted> kataklysm, :) ok thnx, i will try to add the entry in boot.ini; and if not work, i will reinstall the ubuntu :(
[10:56] <Madpilot> !tell thegeekdom about repos
[10:56] <deFrysk> durt, they are not supported there is no help when there are probs with them and they break your system, that enough ?
[10:56] <kataklysm> just paste your grub.conf and your boot.ini  norhted
[10:56] <Madpilot> thegeekdom: one of Ubuntu's repositories
[10:56] <zarkoth> But anyway, I've been working on installing those very same codecs...and they're mad at me
[10:56] <thegeekdom> OK
[10:56] <bur[n] er> boxerboy29: only if you give access to universe repositories
[10:56] <durt> yes, thank you defrysk
[10:56] <norhted> kataklysm, ok i will do that, thnx again
[10:56] <boxerboy29> correct
[10:56] <deFrysk> durt, yw
[10:56] <thegeekdom> What is the best way to control spam in ubuntu ?
[10:57] <boxerboy29> thats the first thing i do b4 i do updates when i install it
[10:57] <bur[n] er> thegeekdom: thunderbirds spam filter :)
[10:57] <thegeekdom> OK
[10:57] <bobokaka> whats norhted ?
[10:57] <kataklysm> hmm, Totem does have mp3 playback
[10:57] <norhted> bobokaka, sorry?
[10:57] <bur[n] er> evolution may have spam control too
[10:57] <thegeekdom> got it.  Thanks - out
[10:57] <bur[n] er> !tell kataklysm about mp3
[10:57] <bur[n] er> kataklysm: check your msgs :)
[10:57] <Madpilot> thegeekdom: you can run spamassassin if you want, it is available for Ubuntu - see the msg ubotu sent you
[10:57] <Jan_> SO how on earth do I get the mp3 decoder
[10:57] <tristanmike> durt, mostly backports are "wrong" is because they are completely and 100% unofficial and that means no support, you have to maintain everything yourself, could very well conflict with something important, just a few reasons I guess
[10:58] <Madpilot> Jan_: see the msg ubotu sent you a few minutes ago
[10:58] <tristanmike> this is from what I've gathered
[10:58] <deFrysk> !tell Jan_ about restricted formats
[10:58] <clyrrad> Anyone know why my breezy bnx freezes on 'Starting periodic command cheduler....' during boot?
[10:58] <clyrrad> scheduler*
[10:58] <kataklysm> why did i just get that autorespsonse saying mpeglayer3 is a restricted format???
[10:58] <bobokaka> oops, mistake...
[10:58] <deFrysk> kataklsym7413, because it is
[10:58] <kataklysm> all i said was totem does play them! and im in breezy too...
[10:58] <Madpilot> kataklysm: because somebody got ubotu to msg you
[10:58] <n0n3> hello
[10:59] <kataklysm> i understand that, but it still works...
[10:59] <bobokaka> boxerboy29: i should just put the grub anywhere I want as long as it in the windows HD (which is the MBR ..)
[10:59] <n0n3> can anybody help me i can't configure serial mouse in new ubuntu instalation...
[10:59] <Madpilot> kataklysm: of course, but mp3 support can't be included by default - you must've added the codecs
[10:59] <shawnz> 8-) so no one knows how to fix the 'fixed' font issue in xvnc?
[10:59] <boxerboy29> bobokaka: put it on the MBR it will ask you if you want it on MBR and will put it there automatically
[11:00] <bobokaka> oh. o.k.
[11:00] <bobokaka> last question - how long is the installation? (in average) ?
[11:00] <kataklysm> Madpilot: that i might have, i don't really know, i usually add all the codecs that i'm sure i will need sooner or later
[11:00] <Jan_> Hm
[11:00] <zone17> Hi, whats up with the mozilla-firefox update which keeps breaking? /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb (--unpack)
[11:00] <shawnz> bobokaka, bout 15 minutes or so.
[11:00] <boxerboy29> bobokaka: the installers job is to make your life a lil easier use it to do that
[11:00] <Jan_> that link only has "ripping or encoding" mp3s
[11:00] <deFrysk> bobokaka, on a current box , about 30 minutes
[11:00] <Jan_> I can't even play them back yet
[11:00] <deFrysk> bobokaka, probably less
[11:01] <bobokaka> o.k. thank you all and speacially boxerboy29 for helping me.
[11:01] <kataklysm> Jan_: add mp3, mp321, and libmad
[11:01] <boxerboy29> bobokaka first boot will install other things so add 20 minuties or so to the time the install takes
[11:01] <P229> how would I go about enabling DMA at startup?
[11:01] <boxerboy29> yw bobokaka
[11:01] <Jan_> kataklysm: how?
[11:01] <kemik> zone17:  topic
[11:01] <shawnz> again, does anyone have any clue on how to get vncserver/Xvnc working.
[11:01] <P229> specifically, DMA for my DVD drive
[11:02] <Owyhee> gang
[11:02] <zone17> kemik, thanks!
[11:02] <afaik> GANG!
[11:02] <hondje> P229: edit /etc/hdparm.conf
[11:02] <Owyhee> doesn't Ubuntu support dual processor machines?
[11:02] <mlopes_> hi. which is the package that contains mod_perl for apache2?
[11:02] <kataklysm> Jan_ they are on the repositories apt-get install mp3 mpeg321 libmad*
[11:03] <P229> hondje: thanks
[11:03] <kataklysm> i think its called mpeg321
[11:03] <kataklysm> just use synaptic and find those
[11:03] <kataklysm> lol
[11:03] <kemik> Jan_:  to playback mp3 you need to "sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad"
[11:03] <Jan_> kataklsym7413: OKies.
[11:03] <Jan_> Ah see now this is one problem with Linux
[11:03] <boxerboy29> <<<one processor dont know about 2
[11:03] <Jan_> two people telling me utterly different things
[11:04] <Thorondor> hi, on my dell inspiron 5000e hoary 5.04 works fine with the default resolution 1400x1050, but when I switch to 1024x768 the screen is totally messed up. any hints what i could try out?
[11:04] <n0n3> can anybody help me i can't configure serial mouse in new ubuntu instalation...
[11:04] <Owyhee> I installed it fine but have only one CPU seen
[11:04] <Owyhee> thx boxer
[11:04] <kemik> Jan_:  two ways todo the same thing.. but there's no need for mpeg123 unless you're going to create your own mp3s etc
[11:04] <ggremlin> moin moin
[11:04] <upgrdman_> what repository do i need to have to get packages like avidemux and mplayer?
[11:04] <boxerboy29> i wish i knew man
[11:05] <kemik> Jan_:  and this "problem" isnt particular to linux, you'll see the same in windows.. 2 users will carry out the same task in different ways
[11:05] <emile> shawnz: goto system-preferences-remote desktop configure password etc. On client start vncviewer <ip>
[11:05] <hondje> mplayer is in multiverse
[11:05] <hondje> avidemux is in hoary-extras
[11:05] <segfault2k> hi :D
[11:05] <segfault2k> someone know why tcmplex is not in the transcode package in breezy?
[11:07] <transparentdream> What's a good n64 emulator for ubuntu?
[11:07] <upgrdman_> hondje, im new to the deb/ubuntu way of things... do i have to add those manually? i dont see them in my sources.list
[11:07] <kataklysm> Jan_: if you install the ones i said you wont ever have mp3 compatable warnings, if you have k3b then install k3b-mp3 too
[11:07] <hondje> upgrdman_: yes
[11:07] <durt> how do you disable the wine debugger?
[11:07] <hondje> !tell upgrdman_ about repos
[11:07] <segfault2k> someone know why tcmplex is not in the transcode package in breezy?
[11:08] <boxerboy29> hondje: do you have to have uni before adding multi?
[11:09] <shawnz> so uh, anyone got Xvnc to work in breezy.
[11:09] <ironwolf> shawnz: yes
[11:09] <shawnz> how can I fix the issue with the fixed font package thingy.
[11:09] <shawnz> uh, . == ?
[11:09] <FX|Laptop> hmmm
[11:10] <hondje> boxerboy29: nah, you don't but it's probably a good idea
[11:10] <FX|Laptop> followed the directions in the link and got firefox to remove and then install but it still will not start. :(
[11:10] <boxerboy29> hondje: thank you was just wondering
[11:10] <hondje> :)
[11:10] <zone17> Hi, I have just updated to firefox 1.0.7, when I try to start firefox nothing happens, where can I see what goes wrong?
[11:11] <transparentdream> how can i convert a 7zip file to a normal zip?
[11:11] <hondje> zone17: start it in a terminal...open it up and enter 'firefox' and hit enter
[11:11] <concept10> boy, I was wrong  - upgrade to breezy ummm about 1050 packages!
[11:11] <Thorondor> zone17, you could try to run it via console, just type "firefox"
[11:11] <zone17> FX|Leptop, seems like we have the same problem
[11:11] <boxerboy29> ok brb gonna puoll backports out and prey to god nothing happens :(
[11:11] <angryfix> Is there a way, using the default ssh program to view a file with syntax highlighting. Everytime I ssh into my other computer to edit some PHP files, there is no color when using vim.
[11:11] <zone17> I did - I get the same
[11:11] <upgrdman_> hondje, hum i have uni enable, but synaptic cant find a pkg names mplayer
[11:11] <zone17> console - firefox.. nothing
[11:11] <hondje> angryfix: :syntax on
[11:11] <kemik> zone17:  "ps aux | grep firefox"
[11:12] <opnsrc-conpiracy> transparentdream, think you have to unpack and recompress
[11:12] <flodine> breezy repositories dont have mplayer
[11:12] <hondje> upgrdman_: it's in multiverse
[11:12] <kemik> zone17:  and then "sudo kill -9 PID_OF_FIREFOX"
[11:12] <kemik> zone17:  and then start FF again
[11:12] <upgrdman_> hondje, o ok, i didnt see it in the list
[11:12] <angryfix> hondje: perfect! thanks.
[11:12] <upgrdman_> everything was already checked
[11:12] <transparentdream> How do I do that?
[11:12] <zone17> kemik, thanks! :-))
[11:12] <hondje> pkill firefox is easier :)
[11:12] <Thorondor> hi, on my dell inspiron 5000e hoary 5.04 works fine with the default resolution 1400x1050, but when I switch to 1024x768 the screen is totally messed up. any hints what i could try out?
[11:12] <zone17> kemik, why didn't i think of that dooh!
[11:12] <hondje> angryfix: No problem :) The setting to have it on my default is on the server you're ssh'd to, so to make it permanant you have to mess with the config there
[11:13] <tristanmike> zone17, did you read the topic?
[11:13] <zone17> yes
[11:13] <tristanmike> sorry, :)
[11:13] <upgrdman_> hondje, nm found it
[11:13] <upgrdman_> sorry
[11:13] <hondje> lol, NEVEr use backports again ;-)
[11:13] <zone17> but in my case I didn't have backports enabled
[11:13] <kemik> zone17:  i have no idea ;) (actually hade the same trubl last night myself)
[11:13] <angryfix> hondje: what about enabling the color background?
[11:13] <FX|Laptop> thanks the kill -9 helped me too
[11:13] <zone17> kemik, lol
[11:13] <zarkoth> Kemik - you rock man, my mp3's worked, I'm gone, thanks much ;)
[11:13] <angryfix> I tried 'colo whatever' but it's always black or white
[11:13] <segfault2k> someone know why tcmplex is not in the transcode package in breezy?
[11:14] <hondje> angryfix: I can't remember how to do that...I always just set the syntax to dark bg and forget about it
[11:14] <angryfix> works for me
[11:14] <boxerboy29> i thought backports were just extra ftp servers
[11:14] <kemik> awh. i rock! :)
[11:14] <kemik> time to goto bed ;)
[11:14] <boxerboy29> they are gone now
[11:14] <kemik> hondje:  pkill & pgrep was nice functions.. didnt know about them ;)
[11:15] <hondje> kemik: I'm addicted to them :)
[11:15] <segfault2k> root@syl:/home/segfault # apt-cache search tcmplex
[11:15] <segfault2k> why!
[11:15] <boxerboy29> doesnt pkill kill processes?
[11:15] <P229> hondje: if the command "hdparm -d1 /dev/hdb" does what I want, is the hdparm.conf entry "command_line { hdparm -d1 /dev/hdb }" sufficient?
[11:15] <kemik> boxerboy29:  "man pkill" ;)
[11:15] <Necrosan> Did them DIRTY ubuntu developers decide including ndiswrapper in 5.10 was a wise decision yet or no?
[11:16] <hondje> P229: maybe, I'd probably put in /dev/hdb { dma = on } myself
[11:16] <kemik> boxerboy29:  backports isnt gone.. or when did that happen ?
[11:16] <transparentdream> OK, for an ATI radeon 9800 pro is the driver flgrx or fglrx??
[11:16] <boxerboy29> ok ty
[11:16] <boxerboy29> i just got rid of them
[11:16] <henke> transgress, fglrx
[11:16] <Seveas> fglrx
[11:16] <transparentdream> Thanks
[11:16] <henke> erm, transparentdream  I mean
[11:16] <boxerboy29> everyone says they are bad so i got rid of them
[11:16] <transparentdream> lol np
[11:17] <GhostFreeman> Anyone here willing to sort our my problems installing amaroK over the repos?
[11:17] <kemik> boxerboy29:  well.. no need to use them unless you desperately need a specific update
[11:17] <GhostFreeman> I'm using Synaptic and it keeps giving me some weird error stating a package inst installed
[11:17] <boxerboy29> kemik: ok ty
[11:18] <GhostFreeman> let me post a pastebin dump: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/374074
[11:18] <hondje> GhostFreeman: Did you apt-get update?
[11:19] <GhostFreeman> yeah, I did
[11:19] <hondje> GhostFreeman: Breezy?
[11:19] <GhostFreeman> I even selected all the engines, still does that
[11:19] <kemik> spam spam spam
[11:19] <GhostFreeman> No, Hoary
[11:19] <hondje> oh, no clue then :)
[11:19] <GhostFreeman> it would also be great if I could get amaroK without the additional krap
[11:20] <Skid> how do i alias an ip? i've added to /etc/network/interfaces as eth0:1 - and tried ifconfig eth0:1 up
[11:20] <Skid> but it says it can't assign the requested address
[11:20] <boxerboy29> ghostfreeman: did you look for those extra packages and make sure they are checked?
[11:20] <Necrosan> Did them DIRTY ubuntu developers decide including ndiswrapper in 5.10 was a wise decision yet or no?
[11:20] <bobulor> I have Totem Movie Player, and its performance is terrible. For Movies, the audio and video never sync up, and any music I play is choppy. Any ideas as to why it's doing that?
[11:20] <GhostFreeman> yeah, I checked them all
[11:20] <Fanskapet> hmm what mediaplayer do you recomend using?
[11:20] <Fanskapet> mplayer or xine?
[11:20] <Seveas> Necrosan, it was included since warty...
[11:20] <segfault2k> vlc
[11:20] <segfault2k> vlc :D
[11:20] <GhostFreeman> amarok, amarok-engines, and the three engines (arts, gstreamer, xine)
[11:20] <GhostFreeman> You don't think I'm missing a library for arts?
[11:21] <transparentdream> How do I extract a tar.bz2 file using the tar command? or what should i use then?
[11:21] <boxerboy29> it should have told you
[11:21] <boxerboy29> i would think
[11:21] <stpere> transparentdream, tar -xvjf
[11:21] <transparentdream> k thanks
[11:21] <[LethAL] > Does anyone know how to collect SNMP data from a network device?
[11:21] <boxerboy29> ghostfreeman: try getting it manually?
[11:21] <GhostFreeman> yeah, i'm missing ARTS
[11:22] <boxerboy29> see if you get same error
[11:22] <GhostFreeman> let's try that
[11:22] <joetheodd> Hey, how do I enable ssh?
[11:22] <GhostFreeman> if not i'll go and get it manually
[11:22] <[LethAL] > joetheodd, Install openssh
[11:22] <bobulor> ...
[11:22] <Enchanter_tim> hello
[11:22] <transparentdream> what? Why won't it let me ./configure??
[11:23] <Skid> how do i alias an ip? i've added to /etc/network/interfaces as eth0:1 - and tried ifconfig eth0:1 up, but it says it can't assign the requested address
[11:23] <n3t0> how file control the sensibility of scroll on mouse
[11:24] <Enchanter_tim> is there an issue with acroread in hoary? i get a broken version of 5, the fora mention 7 for some reason
[11:24] <GhostFreeman> nope, installing arts dosen't fix it
[11:24] <P229> joetheodd: sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start
[11:25] <joetheodd> sudo: /etc/init.d/sshd: command not found
[11:26] <Chii_studies> is wine useful?
[11:26] <shawnz> So does anyone know how to fix the "could not open default font 'fixed'" problem with xvnc in breezy/
[11:27] <P229> joetheodd: then you have to install sshd
[11:27] <n3t0> how file control the sensibility of scroll on mouse?
[11:27] <shawnz> P229: it doesnt exist here either and it still works for me.
[11:28] <shawnz> sshd: /usr/sbin/sshd /usr/share/man/man8/sshd.8.gz
[11:28] <stpere> there is a /etc/init.d/ssh file here
[11:28] <stpere> but no sshd
[11:28] <shawnz> same
[11:28] <P229> shawnz: strange. joetheodd: what do you get for whereis sshd?
[11:29] <joetheodd> joe@JoeMomma:~/eclipse $ whereis sshd
[11:29] <shawnz> it is ssh. not sshd
[11:29] <joetheodd> sshd:
[11:29] <thoreauputic> /etc/init.d/ssh  (no "d" )
[11:29] <shawnz> oh, in that case it isnt installed
[11:29] <RMeist> which ssh
[11:29] <oggah> I just did a apt-get upgrade, "The following packages will be upgraded: linux-image-2.6.10-5-386". Shall I do this?
[11:29] <oggah> is this the latest kernel?
[11:29] <[LethAL] > oggah, Yes, that won't cause problems
[11:29] <joetheodd> I want to install the ssh server, the client is there
[11:29] <shawnz> then apt-get install sshd
[11:29] <Chii_Chan> how do I run wine?  I downloaded/installed it from the repositories
[11:29] <[LethAL] > oggah, No it's not, but that's because of breezy ;)
[11:30] <P229> joetheodd: use synaptic to install sshd
[11:30] <thoreauputic> joetheodd:  openssh-server
[11:30] <[LethAL] > Chii_Chan, wine foo.exe
[11:30] <thoreauputic> shawnz: no, openssh-server
[11:30] <oggah> [LethAL] , oh ok. how can I see what kernel I run now?
[11:30] <P229> joetheodd: or do what shawnz says
[11:30] <[LethAL] > oggah, uname -r
[11:30] <shawnz> ah thoreauputic
[11:30] <joetheodd> Thanks thoreauputic
[11:30] <thoreauputic> OK :)
[11:31] <oggah> wierd, did a uname -r. "2.6.10-5-386" why does it want to upgrade..
[11:31] <oggah> to a already existing version.
[11:31] <[LethAL] > oggah, that update is a kernel image, not a kernel
[11:31] <poningru> can someone point me toward some docs regarding wep/wap differences
[11:31] <poningru> nm
[11:31] <[LethAL] > poningru, you mean WPA?
[11:31] <poningru> found it
[11:31] <[LethAL] > poningru, ok
[11:31] <poningru> yeah
[11:32] <joetheodd> http://ubuntuguide.org/ <-- <3
[11:32] <shawnz> poningru, wpa is just a whole lot more secure.
[11:32] <poningru> I just wikid it
[11:32] <[LethAL] > !lart joetheodd
[11:32] <Jan_> "it's less than three?"
[11:32] <[LethAL] > !ubuntuguide
[11:32] <ubotu> from memory, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[11:32] <tristanmike> !ubotu tell joetheodd about ubuntuguide
[11:32] <oggah> [LethAL] , ok.
[11:32] <Jan_> Good bot!
[11:32] <[LethAL] > tristanmike, !tell or ubotu tell, not both
[11:32] <GNU-GPL> !faq
[11:32] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy)
[11:33] <GNU-GPL> :P
[11:33] <GhostFreeman> Ubuntu Guide was superior ;_;
[11:33] <GhostFreeman> RIP :(
[11:33] <joetheodd> Jan_, its a heart, =p
[11:33] <poningru> shawnz: yeah true but I need more explanation than that
[11:33] <[LethAL] > was
[11:33] <joetheodd> @ubotu: Holy crap.
[11:33] <joetheodd> I'll be careful, I'm just installing azureus and java
[11:33] <Jan_> joetheodd: Oh, sorry, I'm doing this by screenreader
[11:33] <RMeist> apt-get install openssh-server
[11:33] <joetheodd> heh
[11:33] <oggah> Anyone knows why the cpu usage right now is 100% and has been the latest 5 minutes without doing any specific cpu-expensive tasks. just running x-chat. opera, beep-media player and a terminal.
[11:34] <GhostFreeman> Can we have xfubuntu now?
[11:34] <[LethAL] > oggah, Open Applications, System Tools, System monitor
[11:34] <burgermann> !tell burgermann about ubuntuguide
[11:34] <GNU-GPL> how about the faq on kde?
[11:34] <GNU-GPL> :P
[11:34] <Jan_> Even though the display seems to be working OK, should we still get the nvidia driver?
[11:34] <burgermann> hmn :/
[11:34] <[LethAL] > burgermann, /msg ubotu ubuntuguide instead
[11:34] <Jan_> They have one which worked well under redhat
[11:34] <Riddell> GNU-GPL: which FAQ?
[11:34] <GNU-GPL> this one: !faq
[11:34] <zenlunatic> my sound doesn't work on breezy colony 5 cd install shouuld i file a bug report?
[11:35] <regex_racoon> !ubotu tell regex_racoon about ubuntuguide
[11:35] <[LethAL] > Jan_, Absolutely. It's much faster
[11:35] <burgermann> [LethAL] : that's noted :)
[11:35] <oggah> [LethAL] , dont think i got a graphical system montior. im running a custom ubuntu install with xfce4. should I do a "top" instead?
[11:35] <RMeist> :)
[11:35] <[LethAL] > oggah, could do
[11:35] <GhostFreeman> where is the sources.list file
[11:35] <poningru> zenlunatic: did it work in hoary?
[11:35] <Jan_> [LethAL] : Apparently it was running a 3D screensaver of a chess game, which was chugging slowly.
[11:35] <GhostFreeman> I always forget where that is
[11:35] <[LethAL] > /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:35] <GhostFreeman> thx
[11:35] <[LethAL] > Jan_, LOL
[11:35] <Seveas> GhostFreeman, slocate sources.list
[11:35] <Thorondor> when i try to switch the screen resolution to 1024x768, my screen gets messed up - 1400x1050 works fine. what vould be the problem? i'm usnig 5.04 on a dell inspiron 5000e laptop.
[11:35] <Jan_> I'm sure we had to exit X to install that driver
[11:36] <Jan_> but Ubuntu seems to insist on always running it
[11:36] <P229> are there any better themes available than those installed by default?
[11:36] <[LethAL] > Jan_, Yes, we do
[11:36] <Jan_> where do you set the default runlevel, I can't remember...
[11:36] <P229> in 5.10
[11:36] <thechitowncubs> hey, im trying to mount my newly installed hard drive and how can i make so i can read/write to it? i got it successfully mounted to /media/movies but i can't write to it from nautilus, what command should i do to allow me to do that?
[11:36] <Bad_Magic> Jan_: did you ever have any luck getting your dvd player to go?
[11:36] <[LethAL] > P229, Clearlooks is good imho
[11:36] <concept10> gosh, I hope thois breezy update isnt stuck
[11:36] <RMeist> *, how do I see the ubuntu verion?
[11:36] <GNU-GPL> P229, ehm. http://www.gnome-look.org
[11:36] <concept10> !theme
[11:36] <ubotu> concept10: I don't know
[11:36] <Seveas> RMeist, cat /etc/issue
[11:36] <zenlunatic> poningru, yes my sound worked in hoary
[11:36] <Seveas> !themes
[11:36] <ubotu> methinks themes is at http://art.ubuntu.com -  http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/ - http://www.guistyles.com
[11:36] <Madpilot> !+themes
[11:36] <ubotu> hmm... themes is at http://art.ubuntu.com -  http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/ - http://www.guistyles.com
[11:36] <RMeist> Seveas: tnx
[11:36] <thechitowncubs> !chmod
[11:36] <ubotu> chmod is, like, totally, a command used to change the permissions of a file or folder. see `man chmod` for a synopsis.
[11:37] <GNU-GPL> !chown
[11:37] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, GNU-GPL
[11:37] <GNU-GPL> lol
[11:37] <GNU-GPL> :P
[11:37] <Seveas> that's enough playing with the bot...
[11:37] <oggah> nano seems to take up over 95% of my cpu ?!? crazy.
[11:37] <[LethAL] > ubotu, chown is a command used to change the owner of a file or folder, see `man chown` for details
[11:37] <ubotu> [LethAL] : okay
[11:37] <joetheodd> !ssh
[11:37] <ubotu> I guess ssh is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SSHHowto
[11:37] <Madpilot> !+msg the bot
[11:37] <ubotu> msg the bot is probably please message the bot in private, he accepts private messages from registered nicknames(/msg nickserv help register). In order for everyone to get better help, do not clutter the channel with many !commands, please. /msg ubotu keyword, or especially if you do not know whether some factoid exists.
[11:38] <joetheodd> I love bot =p
[11:38] <DavidLeeRoth> Hey yall
[11:38] <zarkoth> anyone_have_an_idea_why_my_spacebar_isn't_working?
[11:38] <concept10> Seveas: what happens if dist-upgrade fails to complete?
[11:38] <Jan_> So we're saying I should definitely get the nvidia driver?
[11:38] <joetheodd> Wow zarkoth, tahts an interesting problem
[11:38] <zenlunatic> my sound worked in hoary but not in breezy should i report a bug?
[11:38] <[LethAL] > Jan_, I am
[11:38] <Seveas> concept10, you should not reboot but retry the dist-upgrade
[11:38] <GNU-GPL> zarkoth, wrong keyboard mapping?
[11:38] <Jan_> OK.
[11:38] <zarkoth> indeed_it_is
[11:38] <Seveas> or dpkg --configure --pending
[11:38] <poningru> zenlunatic: then I would a) search around bugzilla to see if its already reported, b) or email the dev list
[11:38] <DavidLeeRoth> I have a question. On shipit.ubuntu.com , is the 5.10 cd's final versions or preview release?
[11:38] <Jan_> apt-get dist-update has so far taken about an hour.
[11:38] <zarkoth> It_was_working_fine_before...
[11:38] <Jan_> Grumble
[11:38] <poningru> zenlunatic: then I would file a bug report
[11:38] <[LethAL] > zarkoth, I think it's something to do with dead keys, not sure what
[11:38] <zarkoth> all_the_other_keys_are_right...
[11:38] <joetheodd> zarkoth, the only time my keyboard stopped working was when I spilled something on it
[11:38] <DavidLeeRoth> I have a question. On shipit.ubuntu.com , is the 5.10 cd's final versions or preview release?
[11:38] <zarkoth> lol
[11:38] <Seveas> Jan_, a hoary-> breezy opgrade takes quite some time
[11:39] <zarkoth> yeah,_i_didn't_spill_anything...
[11:39] <Jan_> Seveas: sure, but this was breezy to begin with!
[11:39] <Seveas> zarkoth, check for dirt in your keyboard
[11:39] <Madpilot> zarkoth: turn the kb upside down and shake it? ;)
[11:39] <Seveas> Jan_, that's odd
[11:39] <joetheodd> DavidLeeRoth: Final, I would asume
[11:39] <zenlunatic> poningru, where is bugzilla?
[11:39] <Seveas> is it busy or has it stalled?
[11:39] <DavidLeeRoth> did you guys sell ubuntu.com
[11:39] <concept10> Seveas: thanks, its taking a long time on ./xserver-xorg_6.8.2-69_i386.deb)
[11:39] <GNU-GPL> zarkoth, ubuntu has a bad os day.. ;)
[11:39] <DavidLeeRoth> i mean ubuntu.org
[11:39] <Madpilot> zenlunatic: bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[11:39] <joetheodd> !wine
[11:39] <zarkoth> lol,_i_already_pried_up_the_key,_it_was_fine....
[11:39] <GNU-GPL> !beer
[11:39] <ubotu> GNU-GPL: Wish i knew
[11:39] <ubuntu> how do i install codecs for my media player ??
[11:39] <zarkoth> keyboard's_only_a_few_months_old
[11:39] <Seveas> concept10, hmm, define 'long time'
[11:40] <[LethAL] > !tell ubuntu about mp3
[11:40] <GNU-GPL> ubuntu, depends on your player
[11:40] <[LethAL] > !tell ubuntu about restrictedformats
[11:40] <Seveas> I daid: no playing
[11:40] <Seveas> said even
[11:40] <afaik> why did you ban the GPL?
[11:40] <zarkoth> how_do_I_check/edit_my_keyboard_mapping?
[11:40] <[LethAL] > NOOO!
[11:40] <ubuntu> what a good one to use ...newbie when it comes to linux
[11:40] <concept10> Seveas: its moving now... it took about 10 mins to configure that./
[11:40] <Seveas> concept10, eek :/
[11:40] <Seveas> that's icky
[11:40] <shawnz> zarkoth, are you sure the spacebar isnt just in wrong or something?
[11:40] <zarkoth> oh_i'm_sure
[11:41] <Chii_Chan> brb as it seems Subspace doesnt like running on wine >.<
[11:41] <zarkoth> it's_only_been_doing_this_for_a_few_minutes
[11:41] <Chii_Chan> have to get on my windoze partition
[11:41] <ubuntu> im using the unbutu live cd
[11:41] <Hikaru79> Seveas, may I PM you?
[11:41] <Madpilot> zarkoth: System menu - Prefs - Keyboard
[11:41] <Seveas> zarkoth, check the thing for dirt :)
[11:41] <Seveas> Hikaru79, sure
[11:41] <poningru> zenlunatic: bugzilla.ubuntu.org
[11:41] <zarkoth> right,_I'll_check_back_in_a_sec
[11:41] <shawnz> try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' then zarkoth
[11:41] <shawnz> see if it does anything
[11:41] <poningru> who can edit ubotu ?
[11:41] <cusco> hi
[11:42] <Madpilot> poningru: anyone - /msg ubotu add
[11:42] <spermite> why can't i talk in debian?
[11:42] <Seveas> poningru, anyone
[11:42] <DavidLeeRoth> did you guys sell ubuntu.org? why did you?
[11:42] <poningru> awesome
[11:42] <Seveas> spacey, this isn't #debian
[11:42] <kataklysm> i dont know if this will interest anyone here, but here is a review i posted a few days ago on Ubuntu "Breezy" 5.10:  http://www.linuxquestions.org/reviews/showproduct.php?product=339
[11:42] <Seveas> DavidLeeRoth, no it was stolen
[11:42] <Chris_Tucker> what deb source would i use to apt-get install the windows 32 codecs?
[11:42] <oggah> why is my cpu usage 100%, just running x-chat and beep-media-player. I checked the "top" function. nano seems to take up over 95% cpu usage.
[11:42] <DavidLeeRoth> lol
[11:42] <cusco> what is the tricky line on smb.conf that makes windows computers not being prompet for a passwd when accessing a share
[11:42] <cusco> ?
[11:42] <zarkoth> hmmm_still_nothing,_the_mappings_right_though
[11:42] <stpere> spermite, you might have to wait until they give you voice
[11:42] <stpere> spermite, I don't know :-P
[11:42] <Madpilot> zarkoth: that smells like a hardware issue, then. got another kb you can try out?
[11:42] <zarkoth> i'm_gonna_boot_to_windows_for_a_few_secs_to_see_if_it_works_there
[11:42] <[LethAL] > maybe_you_should_restart_X_server
[11:43] <Seveas> kataklysm, ntfs is dead-easy in ubuntu now :)
[11:43] <Seveas> system -> admin -> disks
[11:43] <zarkoth> and_i_may_grab_another_keyboard,_yeah
[11:43] <linner> houston .. we have a problem...
[11:43] <Chris_Tucker> what deb source would i use to apt-get install the windows 32 codecs?
[11:43] <Orbman> cusco: securoty = share
[11:43] <cusco> oh yes
[11:43] <linner> after making the laptop standby option change...
[11:43] <Orbman> oops i mean security
[11:43] <cusco> oki dooki
[11:43] <segfault2k> root@syl:/home/segfault # apt-cache search tcmplex
[11:43] <segfault2k> someone know why tcmplex is not in the transcode package in breezy?
[11:43] <zarkoth> bbl
[11:43] <ubuntu> how do i get su . it keeps asking for passwrd but i never set one up ???
[11:43] <linner> when i reboot, it hangs at setting up LVM Volume Groups
[11:44] <linner> this is both in regular boot and recovery mode
[11:44] <stpere> ubuntu, it's not advised to do so
[11:44] <shawnz> :/, so no one knows how to fix the issue with 'could not open default font 'fixed'' in Xvnc?
[11:44] <poningru> gaah
[11:44] <stpere> ubuntu, but if you're sure : sudo su passwd root
[11:44] <dbreaux> some programs i install don't appear in the menu
[11:44] <stpere> oops
[11:44] <linner> no i just got an error that says fuufer 1/O error on device sda logical block
[11:44] <Seveas> stpere, bad advise...
[11:44] <Seveas> ubuntu, use sudo
[11:44] <spermite> i ordered me some ubuntu cds last night
[11:44] <Seveas> !tell ubuntu about root
[11:44] <linner> ...help please...
[11:44] <[LethAL] > spermite, Wait a few weeks
[11:44] <stpere> Seveas, you're right
[11:45] <durt> ive gotten jedi knight 2 to work under wine, but theres no sound :( any ideas?
[11:45] <Chris_Tucker> ubotu: root?
[11:45] <ubotu> [root]  disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[11:45] <[LethAL] > durt, WINE or Cedega?
[11:45] <Chris_Tucker> :) Seveas
[11:45] <durt> [lethal]  wine
[11:45] <nxv_> which is the default kernel 4 breezy? is there a problem with postgresql in breezy? cant get one running
[11:45] <[LethAL] > durt, Perhaps try Cedega instead
[11:45] <Seveas> nxv_, kernel is 2.6.12-5, postgres works fine
[11:45] <joetheodd> How do I install the Java 2 Runtime Environment?
[11:46] <Rich43> Hi Alan
[11:46] <Seveas> read the docs in /usr/share/doc/postgres*
[11:46] <durt> [lethal]  i tried compiling that from cvs, but it aborted and didnt work
[11:46] <[LethAL] > Rich43, what are you doing here?
[11:46] <Seveas> joe_alf, hoary or breezy?
[11:46] <Rich43> lol
[11:46] <[LethAL] > durt, mind if I PM you?
[11:46] <Rich43> Alan, Im stalking you
[11:46] <LuMp> I all. I like Ubuntu
[11:46] <Artimus> What group do I need to be in to startx?  It says that I don't have permission
[11:46] <[LethAL] > Noooo :'(
[11:46] <durt> [lethal]  go ahead
[11:46] <nxv_> Seveas: had it running before the update to horay, i will first reboot with the default kernel brb
[11:46] <LuMp> only this
[11:46] <nxv_> Seveas: th
[11:46] <LuMp> bye people
[11:46] <nxv_> x
[11:46] <WebLOCH> hey guys
[11:47] <linner> Seveas:  can you help me with these boot errors?
[11:47] <henke> DavidLeeRoth, what will you use them all for?
[11:47] <linner> Seveas:  i don't know how to trouble shoot them
[11:47] <joetheodd> omg not a rejoin flood!!!
[11:47] <[LethAL] > OI! Seveas... wake up
[11:47] <joetheodd> WHAT WILL WE DO?!
[11:47] <[LethAL] > yey
[11:47] <joetheodd> Owned..
[11:47] <joetheodd> lol
[11:47] <ubuntu> this is what i got back :  Unknown id: passwrd
[11:47] <shawnz> -r
[11:48] <Thorondor> its passwd
[11:48] <WebLOCH> crimsun, you about boss?
[11:48] <joetheodd> What do I have to do to get Java installed?
[11:48] <linner> thoreauputic:  are you available dera?
[11:48] <linner> dear
[11:48] <Madpilot> !tell joetheodd about java
[11:48] <ubuntu> this is what i got back :  Unknown id: passwd
[11:48] <joetheodd> !sunjava
[11:48] <shawnz> ubuntu, what are you doing exactly?
[11:48] <ubotu> For Sun-Java debs add this line to your /etc/apt/sources.list (for hoary) deb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ hoary java  ; or go to seveas.ubuntulinux.nl (for Breezy)
[11:49] <zarkoth> weird, it's working fine now, :P
[11:49] <ubuntu> just trying to get root in termn
[11:49] <Madpilot> ubotu: use sudo
[11:49] <ubotu> Madpilot: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[11:49] <shawnz> sigh
[11:49] <Madpilot> ubuntu: use sudo
[11:49] <shawnz> ubuntu, what are you DOING to get root in term though
[11:49] <shawnz> as in, what command
[11:49] <misieq> hi there!
[11:49] <DavidLeeRoth> su
[11:49] <[LethAL] > Do we have ntfs rw support now? Disks mounted my drive as rw... :S
[11:49] <hypersphere-ish> I need a utility for backing up files to a secondary internal removable (via a drive tray) hard drive. So far I've only seen things like tar, which are for tape drives. Any ideas?
[11:49] <ColonelKernel> anyone familiar with the -mm patches? what benefit does the patchset provide over a non -mm kernel?
[11:50] <misieq> how can i make gdm allow me to chose my newly build xfce?
[11:50] <henke> hypersphere-ish, tar is for archiving files, for any kind of storage.
[11:50] <ubuntu> ok im new at this linux tux penguine type of shit please someone help me out !
[11:50] <Madpilot> later, all. the real world is interupting...
[11:50] <shawnz> ubuntu, i asked what command you were attempting to run
[11:50] <tristanmike> ubuntu, language
[11:50] <Madpilot> !tell ubuntu about sudo
[11:50] <henke> ubuntu, keep the language clean.
[11:50] <linner> Madpilot:  I'm getting buffer i/o errors when i reboot after making a change to get the laptop to standby ... it won't boot in recovery or regular
[11:51] <henke> ubuntu, what is it that you want to do?
[11:51] <concept10> The only error I got while upgrading to breezy was about a firefox package. should I reboot ?
[11:51] <hypersphere-ish> henke: Okay, thanks. Does the backup drive have to have a Linux partition installed on it, or can it be unformatted using tar?
[11:51] <ubuntu> i just want to use my dvd drive but it needs to be mounted
[11:51] <segfault2k> !tell segfault about sudo
[11:51] <hypersphere-ish> *when using tar
[11:51] <shawnz> ubuntu.
[11:51] <ubuntu> dont i need root to do this ??
[11:51] <Magitek> hi, i'm having problems with PAN newsreader for linux, I have put in my servers info (usenet) and allit says in the task manager is that the status is qued
[11:51] <Madpilot> linner: sorry, only got a desktop here
[11:51] <shawnz> What command are you running to gain root!
[11:51] <ColonelKernel> Seveas, I got 2.6.14-rc2 on and running! the problems were with EVMS
[11:51] <stpere> ubuntu, nope
[11:51] <segfault2k> sudo passwd
[11:51] <ubuntu> su
[11:51] <Madpilot> ubuntu: read the msg ubotu just sent you, please
[11:51] <DavidLeeRoth> try su
[11:51] <shawnz> so you just ran su. and it errored.
[11:51] <linner> Madpilot:  do you know what buffer i/o errors are?
[11:51] <DavidLeeRoth> or sudo
[11:51] <cusco> !sunjava
[11:51] <ubotu> For Sun-Java debs add this line to your /etc/apt/sources.list (for hoary) deb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ hoary java  ; or go to seveas.ubuntulinux.nl (for Breezy)
[11:52] <henke> hypersphere-ish, tar is just for archiving files, much like Zip, but without compression
[11:52] <ubuntu> let me try
[11:52] <WebLOCH> Anyone here know about sound modules?
[11:52] <Thorondor> sudo -s works for me when i want to be root
[11:52] <Jan_> apt-get dist-update is doooone!
[11:52] <Jan_> What next, h4x0rz?
[11:52] <Madpilot> linner: no, actually I don't... :P
[11:52] <linner> Madpilot:  thanks anyway
[11:52] <ubuntu> when i put su it asks for password
[11:52] <hypersphere-ish> henke: so I can use a fresh, unformatted drive?
[11:52] <Jan_> Uhoh
[11:52] <shawnz> yes ubuntu
[11:52] <shawnz> then put your password
[11:52] <Jan_> All the people I was talking to earlier are gone
[11:52] <DavidLeeRoth> i am gonna dist up right now
[11:52] <linner> Does anyone know how to resolve Buffer i/o errors ?????
[11:52] <ubuntu> i never set up a password
[11:52] <DavidLeeRoth> but i am torrenting stuff right now
[11:52] <shawnz> put YOUR password
[11:52] <Jan_> I've just done an apt-get dist-update
[11:52] <DavidLeeRoth> it will be deathfully slow
[11:52] <Thorondor> use your normal login password
[11:52] <Madpilot> ubuntu: the sudo pw is your user pw
[11:52] <Jan_> should I reboot or something?
[11:52] <shawnz> you had to have put a password, it makes you
[11:52] <Arkainium> linner, when do you get them?
[11:53] <DavidLeeRoth> enter su
[11:53] <spermite> jsay * #debian :Cannot send to channel when i try to say anythning in #debian
[11:53] <henke> hypersphere-ish, what exactly is it that you want to do?
[11:53] <linner> hey there Arkainium
[11:53] <DavidLeeRoth> then type root pass
[11:53] <linner> Arkainium:  when i'm booting in both recovery and regular
[11:53] <mpm2> I need a bit of guidance with Java libraries... I'm not sure why certain swing-based programs are terminating without finding libraries I have java-common as well as J2EE installed... is there a command-line way of querying where all the classes are located?
[11:53] <hypersphere-ish> henke: I have a samba server. I want to back up all the files on the server regularly to a secondary internal drive (it's removable via a tray).
[11:53] <linner> Arkainium:  this started happening after tritium told me to change a setting with regards to my laptop closure
[11:53] <bam_> anyone know why I set up a samba connection and when i try and ping it it gives an operation not permitted?
[11:53] <ubuntu> but im using the live cd i NEVER SET UP A PASSWORD OR USER ID
[11:53] <linner> Arkainium:  tried to get it to "standby"
[11:54] <Arkainium> linner, so it doesn't even finish booting?
[11:54] <Seveas> ubuntu, then sudo won't ask for a password
[11:54] <linner> that's correct
[11:54] <WebLOCH> Something bizarre has happened, after recompiling alsa and loading the module yesterday sound worked fine, but today it seems that I cannot achieve playback through alsa or oss modules now!  anyone have any advice?
[11:54] <tovella> i have used ubuntu with autofs to set up an nfs mounted /home.  it works great from one workstation (logged in as ktraglin), but if i log in from a different workstation, the files are shown as being owned by hcaban, even though I created a user (ktraglin) on the second workstation.  any ideas?
[11:54] <henke> hypersphere-ish, ahh. I'm not very well versed in backup solutions. I hope somebody else can help.
[11:54] <linner> it holds for a while at LVM Voume Groups
[11:54] <ubuntu> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo uid
[11:54] <ubuntu> sudo: uid: command not found
[11:54] <ubuntu> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ su
[11:54] <ubuntu> Password:
[11:54] <ubuntu> su: Authentication failure
[11:54] <ubuntu> Sorry.
[11:54] <ubuntu> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[11:54] <nxv_> re
[11:54] <Seveas> ubuntu, NEVER paste in here
[11:54] <pippijn> hi all
[11:54] <shawnz> lol, wtf at sudo uid :p
[11:54] <Seveas> and read the error closely, sudo did work
[11:54] <zenlunatic> to get sound to work i had to plug in headphones and unplug them is this a bug?
[11:54] <[LethAL] > Seveas, that's a bit generic don't you think?
[11:54] <hypersphere-ish> henke: Okay. Thanks for your help anyway. Does anyone else know what I can use to backup files to a secondary internal drive?
[11:55] <nxv_> Seveas: which postgres packages do u have installed? 7.4 8.0?
[11:55] <DavidLeeRoth> is 5.10 the official new release? Why is it a "preview"?
[11:55] <Fanskapet> anyone here got the VC1_reference_decoder_release6.zip ?
[11:55] <Seveas> 7.4
[11:55] <linner> Arkainium:  and then it it gives me this error:
[11:55] <pippijn> has anyone ever got commercial dvds to work in hoary?
[11:55] <stpere> pippijn, yep
[11:55] <linner> Arkainium:  Buffer i/o error on device sda, logical block 0 and it repeats until it gets to block 7
[11:55] <tovella> why does ubuntu seem to want the first user name hijack ownership of all the subsequently created user directories?
[11:55] <zenlunatic> pippijn, its illegal to do
[11:55] <pippijn> yes...
[11:55] <nxv_> Seveas: do u remember how u installed it? with the packages postgresql-common or postgresql or postgresql-7.4
[11:56] <bluegene007> Hello guys, i have a problem my laptop fan isn't working and the pc is getting heated
[11:56] <Seveas> sec.
[11:56] <pippijn> but how did you do that then, stpere?
[11:56] <stpere> pippijn, had to install libdvdcss
[11:56] <_twitch_> hey, im having trouble with installing ubuntu
[11:56] <P229> opera wants libqt3c102-mt ... would that be libqt3-mt?
[11:56] <zenlunatic> pippijn, you play them by downloading illegal software
[11:56] <pippijn> stpere: I have libdvdcss2
[11:56] <_twitch_> could somewhere here help?
[11:56] <stpere> pippijn, then, I still had no sound
[11:56] <P229> anyone have any luck installing the latest opera on 5.10?
[11:56] <henke> hypersphere-ish, have you tried googling for backup systems for linux? It doesn't have to be for just ubuntu
[11:56] <DavidLeeRoth> is 5.10 the official new release? Why is it a "preview"? Will ubuntu ever do a DVD release a la Knoppix?
[11:56] <Jan_> Oh WONDERFUL.
[11:56] <pippijn> you didn't get sound to work?
[11:56] <stpere> pippijn, I installed totem-xine
[11:56] <Jan_> Now Totem won't even START.
[11:56] <pippijn> ah
[11:56] <tovella> _twitch_: what kind of problem are you having?
[11:56] <Seveas> I have postgresql-7.4
[11:56] <stpere> pippijn, then it worked
[11:56] <Jan_> Everyone in here said to do an apt-get dist-update
[11:56] <shawnz> totem never did work for me :(
[11:56] <_twitch_> when i install, it finishes the isntall, but then it goes to ablack screen with a line up top left hand corner
[11:56] <Jan_> as part of making DVD playback work
[11:57] <Phr0stByte> Anyone out there good at opening ports? I have a prety complicated setup here...
[11:57] <_twitch_> and wont go to the login.
[11:57] <Jan_> and now Totem won't even start up!
[11:57] <Necrosan> uh
[11:57] <Seveas> through the package with the same name
[11:57] <Necrosan> is ndiswrapper on the 5.04 install?
[11:57] <Arkainium> linner, I remember having a similar problem.  is sda your hard disk?
[11:57] <_twitch_> anyone get any ideas as to whats wrong?
[11:57] <Hikaru79> Urgh ... I have a friend who went and did 'sudo chmod 744 /usr/bin' and now he can't sudo . Is there any solution here?
[11:57] <Seveas> Necrosan, yes
[11:57] <linner> Arkainium:  how would i find that out?
[11:57] <shawnz> Jan_, upgrading from one distrobution to another with dist-upgrade is pretty darn buggy.
[11:57] <Jan_> I didn't!
[11:57] <Seveas> Hikaru79, reboot into recovery mode and restore the mode
[11:57] <Jan_> It was already Breezy
[11:57] <linner> I JUST FIGURED IT OUT!
[11:57] <shawnz> oh? O.o
[11:57] <Seveas> shawnz, bullhit
[11:57] <Jan_> I ran apt-get dist-update
[11:57] <tovella> _twitch_: what video hardware do you have?
[11:57] <linner> Arkainium:  it's my usb drive
[11:57] <_twitch_> radeon 7500
[11:57] <spermite>  should root be ReiserF ?
[11:57] <zone17> Hi, I am runing kubuntu 5.04, is there a simple way to upgrade to 5.10? Would just changing the repos to brezy and apt-get sit-upgrade do the trick?
[11:57] <linner> Arkainium:  didn't like it when booting
[11:57] <Arkainium> linner, that makes sense.
[11:58] <bluegene007> Hello guys, i have a problem my laptop fan isn't working and the pc is getting heated Using Breezy preview Hp nx9030
[11:58] <Jan_> and now not only does it not play DVDs, it doesn't even start up the player app correctly!
[11:58] <shawnz> Seveas: well it always caused loads of problems with me, dunno about others.
[11:58] <linner> Arkainium:  "phew"
[11:58] <linner> :)
[11:58] <Seveas> hoary -> breezy and even sarge -> breezy work fine
[11:58] <zone17> not sit-upgrade, dist-upgrade :-)
[11:58] <pippijn> I will try gxine
[11:58] <_twitch_> its an older card, but it was 65 bucks, so meh.
[11:58] <linner> scared the crap outta me :)
[11:58] <[LethAL] > !tell zone17 about upgrade2breezy
[11:58] <Necrosan> Seveas: Okay, I have the .sys and .inf for my linksys wireless g with speedbooster, what must i do after install to make it work?
[11:58] <Arkainium> linner, try removing it then booting?
[11:58] <Jan_> I'm sorry I can't follow the conversation in here
[11:58] <Scrawny1> Seveas I think the backports for 5.04 are fubar'd, I can't install java for firefox
[11:58] <Jan_> is there anywhere with less traffic
[11:58] <linner> Arkainium:  yeah I did... it booted up normally
[11:58] <P229> bluegene007: stop using 5.10
[11:58] <Seveas> Necrosan, sudo ndiswrapper -m
[11:58] <Seveas> Necrosan, sudo ndiswrapper -i bla.inf
[11:58] <Flinty> Hello
[11:58] <Seveas> echo ndiswrapper | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[11:58] <P229> bluegene007: or fix your fan
[11:58] <WebLOCH> Scrawny1, they arent screwed, java was removed for legal reasons
[11:58] <DavidLeeRoth> i need to update 2 ubuntu pc's. One virtual machine and an old celery
[11:59] <_twitch_> what do you think it might be, tovella?
[11:59] <zone17> [LethAL] , thanks!
[11:59] <Scrawny1> so waht no java anylonger?
[11:59] <Seveas> Scrawny1, http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu
[11:59] <spermite>  should root be ReiserF ?
[11:59] <WebLOCH> Scrawny1, of course there is, you just have to install from binary now
[11:59] <Seveas> spermite, no, ext3
[11:59] <Flinty> does  Ubuntu support NTFS ?
[11:59] <Seveas> Flinty, read-only
[11:59] <stylus> Hi there
[11:59] <P229> spermite: iirc, you don't want /boot to be reiserfs
[11:59] <Phr0stByte> Anyone out there good at opening ports? I have a prety complicated setup here...
[11:59] <WebLOCH> Scrawny1, if you check the user documentation on the wiki it will explain how
[11:59] <Flinty> that will do for me, Thanks Seveas
[11:59] <[LethAL] > Seveas, Why is dev/hda3 mounted rw then :S
[11:59] <tovella> _twitch_: when an install finishes, it should re-boot and start downloading updates.  does it reboot as part of the install?
[11:59] <Seveas> P229, you don't want anything to be reiser ;)
[12:00] <[LethAL] > Seveas, it's ntfs, after all