[01:32] <je4d> Riddell: sure, i'll install them now..
[01:44] <je4d> Riddell: hoary packages are broken; they depend on kdelibs 3.5 beta
[01:45] <Riddell> err, oops
[01:45] <Riddell> je4d: good thing you tested :)
[01:48] <je4d> lemme know if & when you want me to try again.. i'm off to bed now
[08:57] <\sh> Riddell: I reassigned 15931 to my bugzilla account...
[09:00] <Tm_T> hmm, any reports about computer restarting in kde 3.5 beta 1 ?
[09:01] <Tm_T> I woke up this morning and realised that my computer was rebooted :p
[09:01] <Tm_T> was kind of "wtf, where's my X"
[11:24] <Tonio-> hi everyone
[11:25] <Tonio-> Riddell: did you know you pointed an error I have commited to all my packages ;)
[11:25] <Tonio-> I have to rebuild eveything ^^
[11:30] <\sh> Riddell: kubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com  was the bugmail-address? I want to create a kubuntu team in launchpad
[11:32] <Tonio-> hi \sh 
[11:32] <\sh> morning Tonio- 
[12:30] <Riddell> \sh: yep
[12:31] <Tonio-> morning Riddell 
[12:31] <Riddell> yo Tonio- 
[12:32] <Tonio-> Riddell:  thanks for the spent on revuing my packages, you found an error I did for all of them ;) I had to repackage everything ;)
[12:32] <\sh> Riddell: I will insert this address as team address:)
[12:33] <Tonio-> Riddell: but concerning the three packages you reviewed yesterday, I assume everything is now fine
[12:36] <Tonio-> Riddell or \sh , my brother is working on an icon set for adept, and he asked me if the debian logo was gpl ?
[12:36] <Riddell> Tonio-: don't use the debian logo, this is kubuntu
[12:36] <\sh> Riddell: can you check your account page on LP ? 
[12:36] <Tonio-> because it is a deb package manager, he thinks about adding a part of the debian logo somewhere
[12:36] <Tonio-> yes but is adept designed for kubuntu especially ?
[12:36] <Riddell> Tonio-: it should be distribution neutral
[12:37] <Tonio-> okay ;) but on kubuntu a .deb file has a debian logo ;)
[12:38] <Riddell> "KUbuntu Team (Administrator)"
[12:39] <\sh> Riddell: right...can u try to add new members?
[12:40] <Riddell> who to add?
[12:40] <Riddell> Tonio-: about kompose, there's a version in debian and your version makes a lot of packaging changes, I don't know if it's a good idea to get out of sync with debian
[12:40] <\sh> Riddell: i don't know..who else have upload rights, member rights ?
[12:41] <\sh> Riddell: regarding the kubuntu community? 
[12:41] <Riddell> is Mez a MOTU?
[12:41] <Riddell> and pef?
[12:41] <\sh> mez is 
[12:42] <\sh> pef I don't know
[12:42] <\sh> but anyways...we can add them both, if they're doing kubuntu development...they're able to fix bugs
[12:42] <Riddell> mez added
[12:42] <Tonio-> Riddell: okay, let's get sync with debian ;)
[12:44] <Riddell> Tonio-: I recommend you make a version of the kompose package with minimal changes from the debian, then that can be uploaded no problem.  then you can talk to the debian maintainer about switching to cdbs etc
[12:44] <Tonio-> so just uupdate and change names and that's it ?
[12:45] <Tonio-> the problem was that the debian version was absolutly not compatible with Daniel's policy ^^
[12:45] <Tonio-> It would get a big NO if with the original deian folder Riddell  ;)
[12:45] <Riddell> Tonio-: it doesn't need to go in REVU if it's just an update
[12:46] <Tonio-> ah ? where to put it in that case ?
[12:46] <Riddell> me?  \sh?
[12:46] <Tonio-> ah okay, but better sending an email or something like that that uploading ;)
[12:46] <Tonio-> I'll do that this afternoon with a minimal changes
[12:47] <Tonio-> after finishing correcting all my other packages (damned error on manpages deletion !)
[12:50] <\sh> Riddell: can we add bugs.launchpad.net to the kubuntu-bugs mail list?
[12:50] <Riddell> \sh: how do you mean?
[12:51] <\sh> Riddell: there must be a mail send out to register the contact address "kubuntu-bugs@..." but this is a ML address so we have to include this address to the mailmal
[12:52] <Riddell> you want launchpad kubuntu entires to go to kubuntu-bugs@?
[12:52] <\sh> Riddell: yep..malone bugs as well..
[12:53] <Riddell> fair enough, I've no idea how to do that
[12:53] <\sh> Riddell: u r mail list admin, too :) so whitelist *@bugs.launchpad.net (the bugs are send out via mail like bugno@bugs.launchpad.net)
[12:54] <Riddell> \sh: you've set up the launchpad side of that then?
[12:54] <\sh> Riddell: yeah...already :)
[12:54] <\sh> there must be a mail coming from LP that you have to confirm to use this address for the team...
[12:55] <\sh> Riddell: the other way is, that I setup something on my root ,-)
[12:55] <Riddell> "Launchpad: Validate your team's contact email address"
[12:55] <\sh> Riddell: yep...and this is dholbachs advise
[12:55] <\sh> 12:54 < dholbach> \sh: ^(.*)bugs.launchpad.net
[12:55] <\sh> 12:55 < dholbach> \sh: in privacy options -> accept these nonmembers
[12:56] <Riddell> "Application error.  Unauthenticated user POSTing to page that requires authentication."  got to love launchpad
[12:56] <\sh> grrr...I have a damn bunch of kubuntu bugs now in my inbox ,-)
[12:57] <Riddell> "Contact email address validated successfully"
[12:57] <\sh> Riddell: ok...now whitelist the address in mailman ;) like dholbach suggested ;)
[12:57] <Tm_T> hi kids
[12:58] <Riddell> hi dad
[12:59] <Riddell> done
[12:59] <\sh> ok...
[01:02] <Tm_T> Riddell: aye aye sir
[01:09] <\sh> Riddell: can u set for the launchpad stuff that it's unmoderated, or that I'm unmoderated? ,-)
[01:09] <\sh> We have received a message from your address `sh@sourcecode.de'
[01:09] <\sh> requesting an automated response from the
[01:09] <\sh> kubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com mailing list.  We have seen 10 such
[01:09] <\sh> messages from you today.  In order to avoid problems such as mail
[01:09] <\sh> loops between email robots, we will not be sending you any further
[01:09] <\sh> email responses today.  Please try again tomorrow.
[01:09] <\sh> *cry* 
[01:11] <Riddell> \sh: done (I think)
[01:11] <\sh> Riddell: I'm so sad now ;)
[01:12] <\sh> Riddell: and can u please moderate the already received mails from sh@sourcecode.de ,-)
[01:13] <Riddell> done
[01:15] <\sh> thx :)
[01:25] <\sh> wow..interessting things ;)
[01:26] <\sh> https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/743
[01:27] <Riddell> isn't audiocd in main?
[01:27] <\sh> yes ;)
[01:27] <Riddell> and that's reported against kdelibs
[01:28] <\sh> check the date
[01:28] <\sh> On:  Ubuntu kdelibs
[01:28] <\sh> Date: 2005-05-23 
[01:28] <Riddell> what about it?
[01:28] <\sh> it's old
[01:28] <\sh> it's hoary
[01:29] <\sh> but it is valid ;)
[01:31] <Riddell> audiocd:/ has a flac folder for me
[01:31] <\sh> not for me
[01:31] <\sh> kcontrol -> 
[01:31] <\sh> sound-system -> audio-cd
[01:31] <\sh> runtime evaluation?
[01:32] <\sh> lemme try
[01:33] <Riddell> the FLAC stuff may just not have any options
[01:33] <\sh> i don't see in kcontrol any flac tab
[01:34] <Riddell> there may just not be one
[01:34] <\sh> i think so..cause in audiocd:/ there is one flac folder
[01:35] <Riddell> need to check the output of ./configure on kdemultimedia to be sure
[01:37] <Riddell> "lame not found, MP3 support will be built into audiocd:/, but"  nothing about flac
[01:38] <Riddell> and flac-dev is a build-dep and ./configure passes all the flac tests
[01:40] <\sh> upstream? http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108033
[01:41] <\sh> it's not a bug of kde, it's just not there ;) 
[01:43] <\sh> coffee + cigarette...
[01:44] <Tm_T> better, coffee & chocolate
[01:55] <JRe> better, one apple and one kiwi :)
[02:01] <JRe> e
[02:01] <JRe> miam
[02:09] <\sh> Riddell: I will close it as upstream ;)
[02:22] <Riddell> \sh: close the flac beastie?
[02:22] <\sh> Riddell: yep..rejected with info to upstream
[02:23] <Riddell> yep
[05:05] <verwilst> hummous?? :p
[05:05] <Riddell> nothing quite like freshly made hummous for lunch
[05:24] <verwilst> what's that :p
[05:24] <verwilst> sounds like rotted plants :p
[05:24] <verwilst> or is that hummus
[05:25] <verwilst> you must be a fertile man :p
[05:25] <verwilst> although i don't want to know :p
[05:59] <kkasina> Hi Riddel
[06:11] <Riddell> hello kkasina 
[06:16] <kkasina> I finally figured out what was causing the program that I was testing to erase the irc topics - remember a while back when I logged in as Kmorp? Well the program assumes that its creating a new channel and the topic is set to NULL.
[06:17] <Riddell> that's an evil program you have there
[06:18] <kkasina> Infact jpatrick kicked me out then. Hi jpatrick.
[06:18] <jpatrick> Hello
[06:18] <kkasina> Anyway the program is no more. I dumped it
[06:19] <kkasina> Anyway Riddel. I got myself some free time and wanted to give a helping hand. Wondering if you can give me a hint on starting out.
[06:21] <jpatrick> kkasina: where/when did I kick you out?
[06:22] <kkasina> jpartick: really a long time back. Does Kmorp erasing topics on #Kubuntu-devel and #Kubuntu ring a bell? ;)
[06:22] <jpatrick> oh yeah
[06:33] <jpatrick> kkasina: I didn't kick you :/
[06:35] <Riddell> kkasina: you could go through the kubuntu bugs on launchpad and work out which can be closed and which are valid
[06:56] <Riddell> oh well
[07:30] <\sh> guys...anyone how can confirm http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16375
[07:31] <\sh> amarok-1.3.1 and ipod problems
[07:39] <Tm_T> sorry, don't have ipod :/
[07:40] <\sh> saltydog is helping out :)
[07:40] <\sh> thx anyways :)
[07:46] <Tm_T> good
[07:52] <jpatrick> needs autoconf 2.53
[07:53] <seth_k> dunno if I've ever tried with amarok tho
[07:55] <seth_k> \sh, I just transferred 11 mp3s to my 3G 40GB iPod via Firewire, Amarok 1.3.1-0ubuntu2
[07:55] <seth_k> \sh, at the end of the transfer it crashed
[07:55] <\sh> seth_k: ok..and u had FAT format on the HD?
[07:55] <\sh> oops
[07:55] <seth_k> let's see if it actually put them on there
[07:55] <seth_k> one sec
[07:56] <seth_k> nope
[07:56] <seth_k> they weren't actually copied
[07:56] <seth_k> yes, it is FAT format
[07:57] <\sh> http://amarok.kde.org/component/option,com_simpleboard/Itemid,/func,view/catid,8/id,8149/#8149
[07:57] <\sh> sht upstream
[07:57] <\sh> seth_k: can u transfer the bug pls?
[07:57] <\sh> argl...confirm i mean...I'm a little bit tired :(
[07:58] <seth_k> okay
[07:58] <seth_k> should I mark it upstream and move it to bugs.kde.org ?
[07:58] <seth_k> confirmed
[07:58] <\sh> seth_k: thx :)
[07:58] <\sh> seth_k: moment..I write something :)
[08:02] <\sh> seth_k: u have a backtrace as well?
[08:02] <seth_k> I will do one real fast but I bet it looks the same
[08:04] <seth_k> looks just the same as the other guy's
[08:04] <\sh> seth_k: ok...I don't find a bug in b.k.o. and now I'm on #amarok
[08:05] <seth_k> I found nothing on b.k.o either
[08:05] <\sh> k...I will file a bug
[08:05] <seth_k> ok
[08:05] <seth_k> French class for me :)
[08:05] <seth_k> I will check the bug later
[08:15] <\sh> Riddell: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113377 can u change the product to amarok? i didn't find it in the products list :(
[08:17] <Riddell> \sh: done
[08:17] <\sh> Riddell: thx...b.k.o. is a bit strange somehow
[08:18] <\sh> Riddell: really, I didn't find amarok as product ;)
[08:18] <Riddell> you would have to search
[08:19] <\sh> ok...next time..I thought it should be in the product list at the beginning :)
[08:19] <Riddell> that is a strange bit I admit
[09:08] <Tonio-> Riddell: you'll maybe have to adept icons toonigh, I'm currently working on it with my brother
[09:10] <Riddell> Tonio-: that would be great, new version out tomorrow so tonight would be perfect
[09:10] <Riddell> tvo: any idea why the google search bar in konqueror doesn't have an icon?
[09:11] <Tonio-> okay, we'll do our best
[09:11] <Tonio-> Riddell: this new google bar in breezy make me crazy !!!
[09:12] <Tonio-> when you type several words it come back to blank, have you seen this ?
[09:13] <tvo> Riddell: where does it not have an icon?
[09:13] <tvo> Tonio-: let me test
[09:14] <Tonio-> tvo: in fact don't type to fast, wait 2 seconds between words ;)
[09:14] <Tonio-> tvo: if you type with the speed of light it is okay ^^
[09:14] <Riddell> tvo: on new installs
[09:15] <tvo> Tonio-: ok, confirmed. if google suggest does return nothing the box is cleared, that's a bug
[09:15] <Riddell> tvo: that too :)
[09:15] <Tonio-> yes, and that REALLY annoying ;)
[09:15] <tvo> Tonio-: hehe, I can understand, I'll fix it asap :)
[09:17] <tvo> Riddell: and it shows up if you once you've loaded google at least once? if that's the case i think i've seen it before
[09:17] <Riddell> tvo: yeah, something like that
[09:18] <tvo> I assumed that was intended behaviour of the searchbar. there must be a cache somewhere for those icons. I'll look into that too
[09:20] <Riddell> thanks
[09:46] <Riddell> tvo: your about:konq patch doesn't seem to do anything
[09:52] <tvo> Riddell: did you select a default searchprovider ?
[09:52] <Riddell> tvo: dunno, how do I do that?
[09:53] <tvo> Riddell: in konqueror: settings>configure konqueror>web shortcuts>
[09:56] <Riddell> tvo: ah, that adds it
[09:57] <Riddell> how do I get it to search local files?
[09:58] <tvo> choose kio-locate or kio-clucene or another local searchprovider
[09:59] <Riddell> ah hah
[09:59] <Riddell> so I need to turn that on by default
[09:59] <tvo> yeah guess so. something configurable seemed better than hardcoded anyway
[10:00] <Riddell> what else does default search provider change?
[10:00] <Riddell> ah, it changed if I just type random stuff in the address bar
[10:00] <tvo> yep
[10:00] <tvo> maybe it should be configurable separate from the default search engine?
[10:01] <tvo> ie. an extra box on the web shortcuts config page
[10:02] <Riddell> sounds like too many options to me
[10:02] <tvo> btw, i'm looking into hibernate for a bit - filed some bugs against acpi-support to make /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh kdm/kde aware
[10:03] <tvo> yes, i agree with that, personally i don't even use the searchbar :s
[10:03] <tvo> neither the about:konq one nor the googlebar
[10:04] <Riddell> they're for people who don't know about gg:
[10:05] <tvo> true