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[pbC] Obsthi12:16
TortelsUp?12:17
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theinterncan anyone help me open port 22 and 80?12:20
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blueyedtheintern: on your firewall? do you use some iptables wrapper? guarddog for exmaple?12:23
theinternno i just installed kubuntu and new to kde (from gnome), so im unfamiliar with the setup12:24
theinterni want to be able to access port 22 and 8012:25
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robincan i connect to two irc servers at the same time?12:25
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theinternblueyed: i was asked by a friend if i had guard dog installed (dont see it in the apt repos) is this what people use?12:26
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theinternin gnome i could just go click a check box that said ssh and it opened port 22 for me =p12:27
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McScrufflo12:32
McScruffim haveing problems installing klibido12:32
McScruffcan anyone help12:33
sedekiwhere is the default microphone /dev-file 12:33
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satafterhwhen is 5.10 due out?? 12:39
bobbydsatafterh, october12:42
bobbydsatafterh, it says that on the preview page linked to in the topic12:42
gdhsatafterh: The clue is in the version number...12:42
gdhsatafterh: all releases are YY.MM .. 04.10 oct '05, 05.04, April '05 etc.12:42
satafterhic didnt know that12:43
gdh04.10 oct '04 I meant =)12:43
satafterhi notice there are over 500 people in the ubuntu channel and only 97 here, do most people really like unbunu better you think??12:46
gdhIt's been around longer. Ubuntu itself also enjoys much more media attention.12:48
gdhmagazine coverdiscs, the free 'ShipIt' system etc.12:48
satafterhI have only been using linux for about 3 months but i guess i like kde better12:50
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satafterhis there a sytem restore type utility12:50
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bobbydsatafterh, what do you want it to do? something like norton ghost?12:55
jrattner_how do i restart the kicker12:55
jrattner_?12:55
satafterhyes and also like xp restor12:56
Rogue_Jedi_XActually, a utility like that would be sweet to have12:57
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blueyedtheintern: I had guarddog on my desktop, before I installed shorewall there too. Shorewall is somewhat more complicated, because it needs config file editing. Guarddog is much more comfortable.12:58
satafterhddo we need a fireee wall and/or virus software with linux?12:59
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Torteli dont think so....01:02
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bobbydtheintern, I use firestarter, it's pretty simple....01:05
jrattner_Why does kweather keep loading Station 000001:05
bobbydjrattner_, I don't know, I noticed kweather was broken in hoary01:05
jrattner_bobbyd, do you have the same problem?01:06
satafterhi cant even find kweather01:06
bobbydjrattner_, I just coulnd't get it to update any stations01:06
jrattner_bobbyd, weird....01:06
jrattner_what other cool things are there for KDE01:06
bobbydjrattner_, maybe it's just that I have the ports closed...01:06
bobbydjrattner_, umm, konqueror :)01:07
jrattner_bobbyd, I dont think so, I can get it to update stations but it resets every time01:07
jrattner_bobbyd, im a firefox guy01:07
bobbydI like dragging links from konqueror straight to a directory and having it save them there01:07
jrattner_bobbyd, are there any other cool toys01:08
bobbydjrattner_, I like the way you can right-click a window and use the advanced menu to keep it on top01:08
bobbydjrattner_, i tend to just do work, so I don't know :)01:08
jrattner_hehe01:08
jrattner_this is on my college laptop01:08
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bobbydjrattner_, kdevelop is cool :)01:09
jrattner_i noticed :  )01:10
bobbydbut it's project management setup isn't as slick as .NET just yet01:10
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jrattner_ANyone know ehere I can find out about ALL the KDE applets and stuff01:24
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`NomadHi..   I'm looking at getting a full copy of the website from work.  Is wget still the best tool to use?01:28
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`Nomadwell I'm using it now :)01:35
blueyedjrattner_: www.kde.org, www.kde-apps.org01:40
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Tallia1[UbuntU] hi guys.. i need some help, i'm trying to install winXP on my kubuntu machine with vmware but i have this problem: even if i had specified the /media/hdc (my cdrom device) to be mounted on the virtual machine boot, in the first moment every kind of booting (HD, floppy, cdrom) is skipped and the network booting is started... what could i do? (the cdrom is shown mounted in the bottom-left corner)02:16
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_ethanhmm03:05
_ethanHello!03:05
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phil_hello ethan_03:11
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spermitecan some one plz send me a link or a copy oh there /etc/apt/sources.list that i need to be using?03:17
phil_spermite: what do you want to do with my sorces list03:18
phil_oops sources03:18
phil_have u destroyed yours03:19
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Tortelhi03:19
phil_Tortel: hello03:19
Tortelim bored, so i came here03:19
spermitephil well i got a new install and i cant get any packages i need with the ones i got03:19
phil_what r u using breezy or hoary03:20
spermitelol actually debian03:20
spermitei dont see why it would hurt03:20
phil_well I can,t help u03:20
phil_ill dens it to you whats your e0mail03:20
spermitegmail?03:21
phil_ok03:21
spermitedevin.ecke@gmail.com03:21
spermiteopps03:21
spermitedevin.ecker@gmail.com03:21
spermiteforgot my r03:22
Tortelanything intersting going on here?03:22
spermitemmm, not yet.03:23
Tortel:(03:23
Torteli have hoary03:23
Tortelin windows atm tho03:23
spermiteum03:24
spermitei been to distro to distro this week03:24
phil_spermite: got the list03:24
spermiteyes03:25
phil_Tortel: not much03:25
Tortelim still bored03:26
spermitehmm how would i upgrade from kde 3.2 to kde 3.4.2 but just the kdebase?03:28
Tortelim just guessing here, but try the package manager03:29
phil_spermite: u have to update most of all aot to be compatible03:29
Tortelor sudo apt-get install kde03:29
Tortelthe terminal hates me tho03:29
Tortel:(03:29
Tortelhttp://www.warpmod.com/dev/Tortel/bash.png03:29
phil_Tortel: what r u doing in kubuntu if your running GNOME!03:30
Torteli have hoary03:31
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Tortel:P03:31
Tortelplain ubuntu03:31
spermitewhen u are in a quiet room do u all ever hear a ringing sound in ur ears?03:31
Tortelyea03:32
spermitei thnik i might be going crazy03:32
Torteli hear that when its quiet03:32
phil_spermite: depends on how tired I am03:32
Torteli always do if its quiet03:32
phil_spermite: well have u ever heard voices if so don't listen to them03:32
phil_spermite: its call acouphene03:33
phil_spermite: listening to them never lead me to anything good03:33
spermite=03:33
spermitehope i never hear voices03:33
phil_spermite: I was just kidding03:34
Tortelcan i see a screenshot of the KDE desktop?03:34
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phil_Tortel: what screenshot my dektop?03:34
Tortelthat works, i just want to see how it differs from gnome03:35
phil_Torel give me two min03:35
Tortelkk03:35
phil_Tortel: I need to ssh in my other machine03:36
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spermitehmm xsessionis need it corect?03:39
spermiteer keep my default version03:39
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Tortelwow, windows hates me too03:45
Tortel:(03:45
Tortelhttp://www.warpmod.com/dev/Tortel/bash.JPG03:45
Torteland i scared him off03:46
Tortel:'(03:46
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phil_Tortel: Screen shot on the way03:49
Tortel:D03:49
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phil_Tortel: how about playing a game03:50
phil_if your bored03:51
Tortelim out of fun games...03:51
Tortel:(03:51
Tortelplayed BF1942 til it got boring, BF2 was same, and JK2 too03:51
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phil_Tortel: nice work in http://www.warpmod.com/dev/Tortel/03:55
Tortelomg, i thought i blocked thaat!!!03:56
TortelD:03:56
Tortellol03:56
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phil_Tortel: that why i told u03:57
Tortelha03:57
Tortel>:)03:57
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Toma-anyone know how to import the gnome menu to kde?03:58
thehil How do I link C library with C++ code?04:00
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FoodcomanScrewed up and clicked the set time automatically button for the clock, cant get it back the way it used to be.04:17
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phil_if i'm running an athlon machine whihc kernel is better i686 or k704:23
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capiCrimmwith kubuntu how do I lock down the items ion the panel?04:24
thehil How does new operator in C++ work. Can anyone give an example of allocating an array of int with size 3?04:25
hydrogen /join ##c++04:26
phil_thehil: why not discuss this in the correct channel04:34
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BlankBdoes anyone know if any repository has a copy of cinelerra 2.0 ?05:19
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kianziackhello i'm back05:22
kianziackany one here05:22
kianziackheloooooo05:23
kianziackheeeelo05:23
kianziackany one here05:23
kianziacki need help05:23
kianziacki'm a new user of kubunut05:23
kianziacki'm a new user of kubuntu05:23
kianziacktnx05:25
BlankBAsk a question. If anyone here knows the answer they will answer.05:25
BlankBOr if you just want to chat. What's up?05:26
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spermitethis right. apt-get dist-upgrade? to get the newest kde?05:32
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jrattner1Whats the difference between Kubuntu and installing KDE for ubuntu?05:40
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jsubl2kubuntu allows you to install all of the kde stuff with out installing the gnome stuff first.. other than that they are the same05:43
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Jeezisanyone else unable to get on ubuntuforums.org?06:43
crimsunknown issue.06:44
Jeeziscrimsun: thanks06:47
Jeeziscould you tell me what i should add to my sources.list so i can grab the w32codecs package06:48
crimsundebian-marillat or hoary-extras06:49
crimsunI use the former carefully06:49
Jeeziscrimsun: could you give me the entire thing? sorry, i've been having all sorts of trouble with ubuntu sites today :-/06:52
Jeezis*the entire address i mean 06:53
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crimsunJeezis: debian.video.free.fr, read it.07:02
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Jeezisok07:02
Jeeziswonderful, so i can't get the package atm07:03
Jeezisbah, error, no pubkey for the debian-marillat07:08
crimsunso read the Web page again07:08
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cosimo321hello07:16
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Jeezisi'm still not seeing where it would give me a missing public key07:20
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delltonyhi guys and gals if any :)07:20
crimsunJeezis: see wiki.ubuntu.com/AptAuthenticationInstructionsForHoary07:23
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thoreauputicJeezis: if all you need id the w32codecs, just download it directly and do  sudo dpkg -i on it07:24
thoreauputics/id/is07:24
Jeezisthoreauputic: where would i download it from, that's all i'm looking for07:24
thoreauputicJeezis: I assume from the site crimsun pointed you to07:25
thoreauputicjust a matter of searching/browsing07:25
thoreauputicon that repo - or did I miss something ?07:25
delltonyyo thoreauputic you wouldn't have any knowledge on the maxtor onetouch external harddrives would you?07:25
delltonyi have one on order and wondering how hard its gonna be to make it work with linux07:26
thoreauputicdell500: I'm abysmally ignorant on all hardware subjects :)07:26
Jeezisgot it, thanks for the links crimsun07:26
Jeezisand thoreauputic07:27
thoreauputic:)07:27
delltonywell i'm hoping since its usb the drive will show up in dsmeg or whatever then i can mount it07:27
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jehhm, gam_server keeps crashing my kubuntu. but only with the 2.6.11 kernel (kubuntu packaged)08:33
jehi tried 2.6.11 as i was told that usb on the default 2.6.10 was buggy. i kept having oops:es and usb susbsystem massacres when i tried plugging in my ipod08:34
jehseems like at least usb isn't really ready for prime time usage yet08:35
CaiN_SAthere are probs with usb in 2.6.10 and 2.6.1008:35
CaiN_SAmy usb mouse goes to "sleep"08:35
CaiN_SAand doesnt want to awake again08:35
CaiN_SAso i have to reboot08:35
CaiN_SAget 2.6.12 :)08:35
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jehmy usb mouse works fine though, no problems with that at all08:46
jeh2.6.12 means going with a stock kernel, and it's a royal pain in the rectum to get all weird stuff compiled that a defaul kubuntu seems to load08:47
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jehever checked "lsmod"? dozens of loaded modules that are not needed08:48
jehprobably something breaks in the boot/init process if all the modules aren't available08:49
jehi'll keep using windows for all non-trivial usb stuff, at least there i know it works. maybe breezy is a bit more stable wrt usb and gam08:50
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womblenzWhere's the best place to get help with making the funky keys on the keyboard work in Kubuntu? 08:55
womblenzI08:55
womblenzI've tried the xev and some config file but that didn't work....08:55
Tm_Tfunky keys?08:58
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chxhi. i have severe problems with skype. I even tried the static linked against qt version. I type skype, press enter and dang nothing happens . there are no 'stuck' skype processes09:01
chxby 'nothing' i mean it just stands there , does not end , does not run09:01
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womblenzFunky keys, like Volume up/down, calculator etc.... xev gives me the scan codes, where do I put the bindings?09:02
Tm_T:/09:02
womblenzAnd what do I need to restart to get the keys working? kdm?09:03
womblenzYeah, I've tried STFW but I guess my google skills aren't up to it :)09:03
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BlankBwomblenz: I cant seem to get ubuntuforums.org up...so google is useless for searches about ubuntu. 8(09:11
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womblenzThat's the place to check... OK, I'll search there when it returns09:13
womblenzThanks!09:13
BlankBhave you looked at this article: http://opensource.weblogsinc.com/entry/1234000300044362/09:15
womblenzWow, trying that now...09:17
BlankBthis was my google search: (ubuntu | kubuntu) windows key09:18
womblenzNice.. "Or"ing and everything... 09:19
BlankB8)09:19
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nikkiawomblenz: you have a few choices, in most cases, you can use 'configure shortcuts' within the application you want to control, it should recognise the media keys assuming xkb has detected them properly (they will appear as key's named things like xf86AudioLowerVolume09:23
nikkiawomblenz: if you want a global key, you can use the hotkeys control within kcontrol - if it works for you, or the general KDE shortcuts09:24
nikkiawomblenz: you can also use the menu editor to assign shortcut keys for running programs, and again should be able to use the media keys if xkb recognises them09:24
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nikkiaIF the keys aren't detected, then the probable solution is to change/add the 'Option "XkbModel" "..."' line in /etc/X11/xorg.conf to specify the right keyboard model as listed in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/symbols/inet   - logiaccess is generally a good generic keyboard table, as most media keyboards tend to use the same scancodes as the logitech keyboards09:28
nikkiabut if your keyboard is one listed in there, you would want to make sure the model name is set accordingly09:29
womblenzSorry, was afk... Thanks heaps for that nikkia09:32
womblenzRestart KDM or the whole shibang?09:33
nikkiawomblenz: restart X, easiest way is ctrl-alt-backspace09:35
nikkiaif kdm is setup right, that keyboard shortcut (which kills X) should force X, and KDM, to restart automatically09:35
womblenzExcellent, thanks09:36
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Thijs_Thello09:41
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Thijs_Tbleh everyone afk?09:44
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CaiN_SAnetwork-admin <--- with which package does it come ?09:50
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kianziackhello09:59
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ubuntuanyone her that can help me?10:02
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Thijs_There*10:02
kianziackhow can i update my pc?10:02
aftertaf!tell kianziack about repositories10:03
kianziackhelp me to10:03
aftertafThijs_T:  ask away...10:03
Thijs_Ti am a total linux newbie :) and im trying to install firefox, i download the tar.gz and now im stuck :p10:03
kianziackme i want to update my pc using apt-get but i forget to remove the # at the consol list i think10:04
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kianziackany one know the command 10:05
Thijs_Ti dont :P10:06
kianziackargh10:06
Thijs_Ti just booted this live cd, and this is like the first time im on linux ever10:07
kianziackme to10:07
_ethanfelare you on  ubuntu ?10:07
Thijs_Tnope im on kub10:07
kianziackme to kubuntu here10:07
_ethanfelprogram->systeme->kynaptic10:08
_ethanfelsearch : firefox10:08
_ethanfelit's all :)10:09
kianziackhow about my probs10:09
Thijs_Tokay let me try10:09
kianziackthe console list10:09
aftertafThijs_T:  dont use source code.... learn about apt10:09
kianziacki want to remove the # on the console list10:09
kianziackso that i cant upadate my pc?10:10
kianziackso that i cant upadate my pc10:10
aftertafkianziack:  install synaptic and manage your sources list that way.....10:10
_ethanfelyou can use kynaptic for upgrade too10:10
kianziackwhere can i find synatic?10:10
aftertafyeah true...... personal prefs though ;)10:11
_ethanfelin kynaptic :p10:11
kianziackim using kubuntu10:11
aftertafkianziack:  run kynaptic first ok?10:11
kianziackwait ill try to search it10:11
aftertaferf, i dont have it anymore on breezy ;)10:12
_ethanfelkynaptic is like synaptic but synaptic is better10:12
aftertafkianziack:  ok...... you were in console just now, right?10:12
kianziackyup10:12
kianziackwhat should i do?10:13
kianziacki try to type this "console.list" but it wont work10:14
kianziackcommand not found10:14
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Thijs_Tokay i went to kynaptic, searched for firefox selected install then clicked commit changes to system10:16
Thijs_Tand nothing happens10:16
aftertafThijs_T:  have you enabled other repositories? or just installed from cd?10:17
aftertafif youve enabled them, install synaptic.... much better 10:17
Thijs_Tuh im using the live cd10:17
Thijs_Ti dont think i have repositories enabled10:18
aftertafahhhhhhh.10:19
aftertafany of you opera users around?10:19
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aftertafhi again.10:20
Thijs_Thi10:20
Thijs_Tshould i just install kubuntu and then install synaptic?10:21
aftertafi dunno about the live cd. never used it.10:23
aftertafThijs_T:  you can just type sudo apt-get install firefox in console10:23
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kianziackcould not open file /var/lib/apt/list/lock10:24
Thijs_Taftertaf: i typed it in console console dissapeared nothing happens10:25
Thijs_Toh wait10:26
Thijs_Ti see what i did wrong i think10:26
Thijs_Tnow im getting:10:27
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Thijs_TW: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/main Paes (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_main_binary-i38ckages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)10:27
Thijs_Tcould it be that i can't do it because im on a live cd?10:28
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Thijs_Tcould it be that i can't do it because im on a live cd?10:28
CaiN_SAerm ok i installed zulu and xhoza language for kde10:28
CaiN_SAbut when i go into the kde acces stuff for language10:28
CaiN_SAi cant add zulu nor choose it10:29
CaiN_SAany idead ?10:29
kianziackhey i just ded open kypnatic10:30
kianziackdo i have to check it all and upgrade?10:31
kianziacki mean install10:31
Thijs_Tgot to go10:34
Thijs_Tbye and thanks for the help aftertaf (merci pour l'assistance)10:34
kianziackdo i have to install all here in kynaptic?10:38
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kianziackdo i have to install all here in kynaptic?10:39
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Tm_TKamping_At_Hut: yu11:21
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nikonummmm11:28
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nikonis ati supported with kubuntu11:30
aftertafnikon:  normally yes. what is your card?11:31
nikonradeon 750011:32
aftertafthink its supported, why, what pb you having?11:37
aftertaf!ati11:37
ubotumethinks ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx11:37
nikonk11:38
nikonwhat program can i to stream radio 11:38
aftertafvlc was the only one that worked for me yesterday..... you paste in the url u want.11:40
aftertafothers can do too, but the url i tried yesterday, only vlc11:40
nikonyeah,i was wondering of other than vlc11:41
aftertafohh... depends on url. i have used bmp and xmms in the past.... in kde kaffeine want s to do it all, but i haven't got it working on radio yet11:43
nikoni am going to try kaffiene now11:44
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avinoam I set alt+shift to switch languages in KDE and it doesn't work. Anyone know why?12:34
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aftertafis the kde 3.5 beta install pb sorted?12:51
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Crys_UbuPCHey, does ubuntu need to be started specifically in alsa mode to correctly run the alsa sound drivers?01:16
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williewhere does Debian/kubuntu keep ld.so.conf?01:21
willieI just installed Breezy Badger - used to be SuSE01:21
willieand now I cant find  ld.so.conf01:22
gdhjust in /etc01:22
gdhif it's not there, then none is required by default01:22
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williethanks01:23
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kakaltocan I safely resize my current linux reiserfs partition? how?01:33
gdhNo, you can not do anything safely on ricerfs other than mkfs.ext3 :)01:33
gdh<flame-suit on>01:34
kakalto:P01:34
Tm_Thaha01:34
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mcscruffhi01:55
aftertafhi01:56
aftertafbrb01:56
aftertaf:)01:56
mcscruff:(01:57
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incubiievening peoples :)02:00
mcscrufflo02:01
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incubiidecided to set me self up a hoary server at work02:02
incubiimuch nicer then the fedora boxes there :D02:02
mcscruff:O02:02
mcscruffi got it as a desktop machine02:02
mcscrufflooks so nice graphicly02:02
incubiiah i run breezy on my laptop and desktop at work02:05
incubiidesktop is a G502:05
incubii:D02:05
mcscruffi love the kdm02:05
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incubiiyeah KDE looks sweet02:05
mcscruffi want a mac lappy, but im waitingtill x86 :)02:05
incubiieven my fellow gnome buddies started getting jealous02:05
mcscruffg5 would be good if it could run cedega02:06
mcscruffcan u duel boot osx and kubuntu?02:06
lunitikmcscruff: yes02:06
lunitikyou'd have to look into yaboot though... I'm not familier with how...02:07
mcscruffi need help installing vmware02:07
mcscruffbreezy gives me errors02:07
mcscruffhoray was ok :(02:08
mcscruffwhere can i paste02:08
lunitikmcscruff: paste.ubuntulinux.nl I think02:08
mcscruffhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/253402:09
incubiiyeah you can dual boot02:10
incubiiubuntu sets it up for you :)02:10
incubiiand yes it does use yaboot02:10
mcscruffi think i will wait till mac x86 comes out02:10
lunitikmcscruff: umm... it tells you whats wrong...02:11
mcscruffhow do i fix it02:11
lunitikmcscruff: recompile the kernel... or install gcc 3.4.5  :/02:11
mcscrufftime to google02:12
lunitikffs02:13
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mcscruff:)02:13
lunitikwhy do I bother... I need to start using a distro that targets non-morons again  :/02:13
mcscrufflol02:13
mcscruffi have never needed to recompile02:13
lunitikmcscruff: note I said OR02:14
incubiilol lunitik how about GNU/Hurd02:14
mcscruffi know how to do the gcc, but i want to learn the recompile02:14
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lunitikincubii: too slow02:14
lunitikincubii: actually moving along nicely though... used it about 3 months ago for like a week02:15
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incubiihavent checked it out in a while02:15
lunitikincubii: crosshurd  ;)02:15
lunitikincubii: set you up a dual boot hurd/linux system  :)02:16
incubiilooking at it now02:16
lunitikor even freebsd/linux with same userland  :)02:16
lunitikbah @ netbsd but not supporting all of netbsd's arch's02:17
lunitikThey finally ported the os to a toaster though... lol02:17
mcscruffyep02:18
incubiiha02:18
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incubiifinally my toaster is immune to viruses02:18
Tm_Tincubii ii ii!02:18
Tm_T=)02:19
incubiihey Tm_T 02:19
Tm_Twhat's up02:19
incubii'The ubuntuforums will be back shortly we are having some hardware issues. 9/26/2005 - 7:28AM EST :(02:19
incubiinot much02:19
incubiijust chillin' from a hard days work02:19
Tm_Tbored=02:19
Tm_T?02:19
incubiiwhat about yourself02:19
Tm_TI'm fine02:19
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incubiijust built myself an ubuntu server to push out my windows network installs02:20
incubiinow time to replace all the RHEL servers02:20
incubiiand FDC ones02:20
seaLnedoes anyone get a "your platform is not supported" dialog trying to go into the network settings in system settings on breezy?02:20
incubiiyes i got that last week02:21
incubiithen i apt-get and it was gone02:21
gdhThe sort of error that Wile E. Coyote would see on-screen just before plummeting to the bottom of a canyon :)02:21
seaLneincubii: ok cool02:21
incubiiyeah was annoying i had to use kcontrol still and then i found out that was busted too :D02:23
incubiibut glad its fixed now02:23
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seaLnemy home install is a wee bit out of date i keep planning to reboot :)02:24
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lunitikseaLne: no need to reboot a linux machine  :/02:25
lunitikseaLne: enless you're gonna use a new kernel... but no real point in that if the old one works  :/02:25
seaLnewell for the last few weeks bluetooth has been upset and processes can't be killed and i want to talk to my phone02:25
aftertafuptime 7 years, kernel 2.0.602:25
aftertafnote to self, reboot !02:26
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lunitikaftertaf: ahh... 2.4 and prior kernels reset uptime after 60-something days  :/02:27
aftertaflunitik wins the 'spot the newbie' contest :)02:28
lunitikHardly... been using Linux since 2002  :/02:28
lunitikEnless you mean you... in which case... its too early to be getting complicated  >:02:29
lunitik>:| *02:29
aftertaf:)   spot the newbie, not IS a newbie02:30
lunitik;)02:31
aftertafthen again, been breaking debian for 2 odd years, but still a slow learner 02:31
lunitikI find breaking Debian systems to be very hard  :(02:31
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lunitikEnless I enable experimental... then its kinda easy  :D02:31
aftertaflunitik:  exact. i kept doing that cos i found synaptic 0.12 kinda ugly02:33
aftertafthen i'd break it, get annoyed and ignore linux for months before trying again.....02:33
lunitikpinning is great  :/02:33
lunitikenabling all of experimental for one package is not very smart  :/02:33
aftertafat all..... esp when n00b02:34
aftertaflol02:34
aftertafgetting better tho02:34
lunitikI usually enabled it for kde or gnome stuff... takes too much time to set a pin on all related packages  :/02:34
aftertafthen again, woody was pretty ancient02:35
aftertafubuntu came out 2 years too late for me to learn and become a hardcore u$3r02:35
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lunitikThey just meant I waited longer for things cuz everyone was working on getting a release out...02:39
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aftertafhehe. i didnt know how to repair sid problems.....    one i kept having was libbonobo 2.4 problems.02:40
lunitikI rarely used GNOME...02:41
aftertafbut i learnt some good stuff with debian that is now usable in a less stressfull context02:41
lunitikAlthough now I probably have like 18 months straight of GNOME experience  :/02:41
aftertaflunitik:  i did to begin with, all the pbs i had got me on kde... i dont like gnome at all.02:41
lunitikProbably not that long actually... like a week prior to woody...02:41
aftertafwe have the choice, a good thing..... ;)  02:42
lunitikI used to despise GNOME... still don't think I'm fond of it... "any chance of implementing this useful feature", "no, it makes things too complicated"... no... it makes it easier  :/02:42
lunitik(one example of a real 'discussion' with a gnome devel about getting an application menu)02:43
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lunitikI hate going to the corner of the screen to get a menu... :/02:44
aftertaflol i can believe it.... kde is my fave too... the other hardcore WMs i dont know how to make em run yet02:44
mrmarcelHmm... i cant change my resolution to 1280x1024 :-(02:45
lunitikhaha... they're not hard... but KDE feels just as fast... and about the only cool feature it doesn't have is tabbed windows...02:45
aftertaftrue, kde is fast... and i never use over 50% of my memory..... and 5% swap :)02:45
lunitikmrmarcel: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf ... scroll down, and add it into depth 24's mode line02:46
aftertafmrmarcel:  is it supported by hardware?02:46
aftertafbrb, work calling ;)02:46
lunitikaftertaf: thats actually bad... memory feeds processor...02:46
lunitikIf there is nothing to feed... you get wasted clock cycles  :/02:46
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mcscruffok, how do i recompile the kernel02:48
lunitikmcscruff: I'm not teaching you that... find a faq/howto02:49
lunitikmcscruff: what happened to installing gcc 3.4.5?02:49
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mcscruffcant find the gcc02:49
mrmarcelaaah, okay, thx =D02:49
mcscruffgot 3.402:49
mcscruffnot 3.4.502:49
lunitikmcscruff: look in hoary archive....02:49
mcscruffbreeeeeezy02:49
lunitikhttp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gcc-3.4/02:50
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lunitikThen set CC environment variable to use 3.4.402:51
mcscruffbrb02:52
Kamping_Kaiserhi all02:52
lunitikKamping_Kaiser: hey02:53
Kamping_Kaiserhi02:53
incubiihi Kamping_Kaiser :P02:55
Kamping_Kaiser:)02:55
incubiitime for some soldat02:56
incubii:D02:56
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Kamping_Kaiseranyone know some good hardware compatibility sites? theres linuxprinting.org, linmodems.com (?), sane.org (?)03:02
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Kamping_Kaiserany others spring to mind?03:02
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jeh_workKamping_Kaiser: wasn't there something like linuxhardware.{com,org}?03:06
Kamping_Kaiserill look. thanks03:06
jeh_workhttp://linuxhardware.org/03:06
jeh_workapparently more about reviews though, like tom's hardware03:06
Kamping_Kaiserthanks. ill check it out03:07
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aftertaflunitik:  what do you mean, its actually bad?03:16
aftertafi never use over 50% of my memory..... and 5% swap --> this is not a good thing?03:18
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helpme i renamed iconsets folder and put them into /usr/share/icons........why its not working??03:26
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helpmehow do install this http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=1462003:30
CaiN_SAaftertaf, 03:30
CaiN_SAi just want to know03:30
CaiN_SAwtf is backports ?03:30
edulixhi !03:30
edulixhey,  is it possible to detach the sidebars in kate from kde 3.5 ?03:30
aftertafer...... its software versions for a newer version of the OS, recompiled to work with an older verson of OS.03:31
aftertafiirc03:31
Kamping_Kaiserbasicly yes03:32
CaiN_SAah aftertaf , like using breezy stuff with hoary ?03:32
aftertafCaiN_SA:  yep03:34
CaiN_SAah03:35
CaiN_SAthats why its buggy :P03:35
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aftertaflunitik:  u there?   wondering bout what you said before.....03:40
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slow-motionhallo03:45
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mcscrufflo03:47
mcscruffwhere is the grub config file?03:47
gdh.. /boot/grub/menu.lst is probably what you want03:48
mcscruffty03:48
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helpme how do install this http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=1462003:54
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arentiehello!  Can I install Wine for kubuntu?  If so, where's a good resource for it?03:57
Kamping_Kaiseryou can install it from kynaptic03:58
OculusAquilaearentie: and the wine repository itself supports kubuntu too03:59
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Kamping_Kaisero_004:03
potheadhullo lads04:03
Kamping_Kaiserhi pothead. lols04:03
Tm_Turgh04:04
potheadwhat Tm_T04:04
Tm_TI asked today from book store if my order is arrived... "we get it wednesday or later"04:04
Kamping_Kaiser:(04:04
Tm_Tok, now I got message... it's there04:04
Kamping_Kaiserhi Tm_T04:04
Tm_Tsucky04:04
potheadorder of what04:04
Tm_TKamping_Kaiser: hi04:05
Tm_Tpothead: book04:05
Kamping_Kaiserlol04:05
potheadoh04:05
Tm_Tpothead: Stroustrup: C++ programming language04:05
potheadindeed04:05
arentiethanks for the info04:07
Tm_Tgood night story04:07
Tm_Tarentie: sheufs!04:07
Tm_T=)04:07
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potheadare u all using breezy04:08
Kamping_Kaiseri am, but not every is04:08
potheadok04:10
potheadwich do u prefer,gnome or kde04:11
Kamping_Kaisercan anyone report good experiances with modems/scanners/printers? stuff that 'just worked'?04:11
Kamping_Kaiserfor some reason i cant access ubuntuforums.org :(04:11
potheadisame here04:12
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Tm_Tpothead: KDE <304:12
Tm_Tpothead: gnome is straight from hell04:12
Tm_Tkeep away from it04:12
Kamping_KaiserTm_T: :(04:12
potheadWiCKED04:12
Tm_Ts/keep/stay04:12
potheadi prefer kde aswell04:12
Kamping_Kaiserits a good channel for liking kde :D04:13
Tm_Tyes it is04:13
potheadok american04:13
Kamping_Kaisernot a good chan for hating kde04:13
Kamping_Kaiser:(04:13
Kamping_Kaiseramerican?04:13
Tm_Tpothead: american? where?04:13
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Tm_Ttell me where and I'll frie 'em!04:13
Tm_Ts/frie/fry04:13
Tm_Tbah04:14
mcscruffplease can someone help me recompile my kernel04:14
potheadno,that was wrong box,sorry lads04:14
Kamping_Kaiserlol04:14
potheaddo any of u still run windows04:16
Kamping_Kaiseri dont04:16
Tm_Tpothead: why you're asking?04:17
mcscruffhow do i install a newkernel04:17
Kamping_Kaisermcscruff: with kynaptic04:17
potheadTm_T:just wondering who are still billy gates supporters04:18
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mcscruffi have compiled the kernel, how do i install that one04:18
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whoiamanyone know why I have linux kernel version 2.6.10-5, where there is no release of 2.6.10-5 at kernel.org ?04:24
whoiamI'm running kubuntu04:25
Kamping_Kaiserwhoiam: hoary? because its the default kernel04:25
Tm_Tsome sort of 2.6.10 5th ubuntu package maybe?04:25
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whoiamactually, I want to install someting requiring linux kernel headers, so I want to obtain source to compile it04:26
Almindorthe new kde splash and boot screens are cool04:26
Almindoryou should change the kernel bootsplash too tho :)04:26
whoiamand there is no release like that at kernel.org04:26
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Kamping_Kaiserwhoiam: get the source from kynaptic04:26
whoiamno luck04:27
Kamping_Kaiserit must be there :o04:27
whoiamwhere it install the kernel source ? /usr/src04:27
morrowwhoiam: apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`04:27
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Kamping_Kaiserit should. iirc if you use apt- it dumps it in your working dir04:27
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liteinside03hello there04:28
Kamping_Kaiserhi04:29
liteinside03anybody care to help me..04:29
liteinside03am a newbie in kubuntu...04:29
whoiamliteinside03: just speak04:29
liteinside03ran into some problems...04:29
Kamping_Kaiserdepends on the problem. but ppl will probably try :)04:29
liteinside03i got some problem, browsing the net...04:29
liteinside03the browser04:29
whoiamliteinside03: like what ?04:30
liteinside03the browser's looking for macromedia flash player...04:30
Kamping_Kaisersudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.10 <- whoami.04:30
potheadtypical04:30
liteinside03i already install the plugin for mozilla.. but its still not working..04:30
whoiamwell, I say, get firefox instead04:31
whoiamapt-get install mozilla-firefox04:31
potheadtypical04:31
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liteinside03yup, am using it...  can't get the plugin work though...04:31
whoiammake sure you set proper path while install flash player04:32
whoiamit must be /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox in kubuntu/ubuntu04:32
mcscruffGRUB is installed. To automatically switch to new kernels, point your04:32
mcscruffdefault entry in menu.lst to /boot/arch/i386/boot/bzImage-2.6.1204:32
hussamis archive.ubuntu.com down? I haven't been able to access it for two days.04:33
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mcscruffhow do i do this ^^04:33
whoiamyou could try that agian while talking04:33
liteinside03i used kynaptic to install it...04:33
whoiamhussam: what error you getting ?04:33
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hussamwhoiam: time out04:33
whoiamliteinside03: wait a min.04:33
whoiamhussam: try apt-get clean04:34
liteinside03some are missing on the page, sometimes it wouldn't load..04:34
liteinside03apt-get clean?04:34
whoiamhussam: what you want to install BTW04:34
jdefI would like to install kubuntu on Win Xp machine using vmware will it work or are there any special problems I need to know about. 04:34
whoiamliteinside03: apt-get clean will delete locally d/led packages04:34
liteinside03what's BTW?04:34
liteinside03okay, i'll try that...04:35
whoiamjdef: it work well, I tried it many times04:35
whoiamby the way04:35
liteinside03will it mess up some of my settings?04:35
whoiamliteinside03: BTW ==by the way04:35
liteinside03ah, okay..04:35
whoiamliteinside03: do one thing, d/l flash player for linux from macromedia's site04:35
hussamwhoiam: I did apt-get clean && apt-get update but it timed out on update. I tried http://archive.ubuntu.com in firefox but it times out as well.04:35
jdefwhoiam:  I am using 2.6 kernel series and should I set to ide or scsi for hdrives04:35
liteinside03do i still need to install flash plugin again...04:36
whoiamthen talk to me04:36
whoiamjdef: the kernel comes with kubuntu will work in both conditions in vmware04:36
arentieEveryone, where can I find documentation on how to use Wine in Kubuntu?04:36
hussamwhoiam: even wiki.ubuntu.com won't open. nothing .ubuntu.com opens04:37
whoiamarentie: it's quite simple, what problem you getting ?04:37
jdefwhoiam: thx one more question can I allow partition to grow or must I set full size upfront? I know most installs balk at partitioning phase04:37
whoiamjdef: didn't get you, do you want to use a virtual disk in vmware ?04:38
whoiamliteinside03: are you d/ling flash player ?04:38
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jdefwhoiam: ok I'll start the process if I run into the problem then I can give precise details04:39
mcscruffdamn grub04:39
liteinside03hold on..04:39
whoiamhussam: you getting time out in browser or in apt ?04:39
whoiamjdef: sure04:39
liteinside03there's no deb file, all in rpm & tar ball..04:39
whoiamjdef: I would go after sime time, you can talk to me at whoiam55@yahoo.com if you want04:39
whoiamliteinside03: wait, lemme search the exact link for you :)04:40
liteinside03which one should i download? should i not use repositories?04:40
jdefwhoiam: thx much appreciated04:40
liteinside03thanks whoiam04:40
whoiamjdef: anytime my friend04:40
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whoiamliteinside03: please wait, I got 56k and I'm d/ling linux kernel as well :(04:41
=== whoiam want a higher internet connection :(
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liteinside03no probs... I'll wait here...04:41
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thijs_tHey, aftertaf you here?04:42
hussamwhoiam: both. but in apt it tries for more before timing out. but it won't connect.04:42
mcscruffyou ca nhelp me if you want04:42
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jdefwhoiam: I know that pain only to well04:42
whoiamliteinside03: here you go http://tinyurl.com/3tuy04:42
mcscruffi need to point grub to /boot/arch/i386/boot/bzImage-2.6.1204:42
whoiamlol04:42
Kernel-Krisanyone having problems with ndiswrapper04:43
whoiammcscruff: why ?04:43
mcscruffcoz i just installed a kernel and its telling me to04:43
mcscruffGRUB is installed. To automatically switch to new kernels, point your04:43
mcscruffdefault entry in menu.lst to /boot/arch/i386/boot/bzImage-2.6.1204:43
whoiamyou can move your kernel image to /boot then edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst or menu.list file04:44
Kernel-KrisIm haveing problems looding the ndiswrapper module to the kernel 04:44
whoiammcscruff: can we know how to installed new kernel ?04:45
whoiamdid you recompiled it ?04:45
thijs_they, im trying to sign in to my msn account using kopete but it wont connect it keeps saying wrong pass04:45
whoiamliteinside03: you there ?04:45
mcscruffi recompiled04:45
Kernel-Krisno im useing the binary version that comes with kubuntu04:45
mcscruffnow its telling me there is no /boot/arch/i386/boot dir04:45
liteinside03whoiam: thanks.. I try it...04:45
whoiamthijs_t: msn and yahoo keep changing there protocol to keep 3rd party client out04:45
hussamwhoiam: what should I do? I don't want to lose Kubuntu over this.04:46
liteinside03i just tried a while ago apt-get clean && apt-get update...04:46
whoiamtry gaim instead04:46
thijs_tokay thanks whoiam04:46
liteinside03do i still need to run apt-get upgrade?04:46
whoiamliteinside03: why ?04:46
whoiamliteinside03: d/l that file then open shell04:46
mcscruffwhoiam can i pm04:46
whoiamliteinside03: I have to go, you can talked to me at whoiam55@yahoo.com if you want04:47
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mcscruffthis is so wank, i cant find ANY information relating to recompiling the kernel on kubuntu04:50
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liteinside03whoiam: i go it downloaded, but i got error...04:50
whoiamliteinside03: what error ?04:51
liteinside03it says: a script on this page is causing KHTML to freeze...04:51
whoiammcscruff: why you want to recompile it ?04:51
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liteinside03how should i deal with it?04:51
mcscruffi have to to install vmware04:51
whoiamliteinside03: erm...04:51
mcscruffor install gcc 3.4.504:51
whoiamwait, lemme d/l it and upload somewhere04:51
mcscruffand i can only find gcc 3.404:51
whoiammcscruff: I too installing vmware rightnow and facing erorrs04:52
whoiam:p04:52
mcscrufflol04:52
mcscruffit needs a kernel recompile04:52
whoiamliteinside03: want, lemme d/l it and upload it somewhere04:52
mcscruffon breezy?04:52
liteinside03ok...04:52
whoiammcscruff: and I need installing kernel headers04:52
whoiammcscruff: what it saying to you ?04:52
mcscruffi got headers04:52
mcscruffbut it says kernel was made with gcc 3.4.5 but you have gcc 4.0.104:53
whoiamsame here, wait lemme finish liteinside03 then we'll talk04:53
whoiamok ?04:53
liteinside03i got one from the other site... how should i install tar.gz?04:53
mcscruffkk04:53
liteinside03thanks...04:53
whoiamliteinside03: please come ok yahoo :( i have to go now, whoiam55@yahoo.com04:53
liteinside03ok..04:54
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liteinside03help on installing files... .tar.gz.....04:55
mcscruffi extract them04:55
liteinside03tulog na04:55
mcscruffthen cd into em04:55
mcscruffthen ./configure :P04:56
liteinside03using ark?04:56
mcscruffyep coz i dont remember the command line for it04:56
mcscruffcd into em , then run ./configure , then make and make install04:56
liteinside03then on the konsole?04:56
mcscruffyea04:56
liteinside03should i type cd /home/.... /configure?04:57
liteinside03am i right?04:57
mcscruffcd into the dir04:57
liteinside03tulog na04:57
liteinside03gabii na04:57
mcscruff??04:57
kinfoi don't understand.04:57
liteinside03back to /configure...04:57
mcscruff- ./configure04:58
mcscruffwhat are you installing?04:58
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liteinside03i'll try it... i'll get back to you for some queries...04:58
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liteinside03macromedia flash player... 04:59
elektr0smoganyone uses anjuta with ubuntu?04:59
liteinside03i hope it works..04:59
elektr0smog64bit04:59
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Thijs_they, im a totally new to linux, can someone guide  me through installing a program?05:05
Thijs_tbrb05:06
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liteinside03mcscruff: i installed it already...05:11
liteinside03but i got one more message...05:11
whoiamliteinside03: did you installed flash player successfuly ?05:11
liteinside03i guess so, but i got a message from the console...05:12
whoiamliteinside03: what ?05:12
liteinside03it says: please ask your administrator to remove xpti.dat from the components directory of the mozilla or netscape browser...05:12
liteinside03should i just delete it?05:13
whoiamliteinside03: you installed that as root ?05:13
liteinside03yes, i think i did...05:13
whoiamthen I don't know :(05:14
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whoiamare you sure, you installed it in right dir ? which is /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox05:14
liteinside03i followed the instruction attached with it...05:15
whoiammorrow: kernel-headers are installed bu vmware keep asking me for kernel hearders :( please help05:16
liteinside03how can i check it...05:16
morrowwhoiam: ahhh .. which kernel version do you have? 386/686/k7/etc?05:16
whoiamliteinside03: open shell05:16
whoiam38605:16
morrowwhoiam: aptitude search linux-headers and pick your correct version then. :)05:17
liteinside03okay...05:17
whoiammorrow: I installed the current/right version 05:17
whoiammorrow: actually what it's asking me is05:18
whoiamWhat is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 05:18
liteinside03what should i do next whoiam05:18
morrowyes... and i will find the correct C headers if you fetch the right linux-headers package05:18
morrowlinux-headers-2.6.10-5-38605:19
whoiamliteinside03: go to the dir where you extracted the tar file05:19
morrowthats your correct version with the right settings05:19
whoiammorrow: yeah I installed them05:19
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morrowwell works perfectly here... (vmware)05:19
whoiammorrow: apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` <--------you told05:19
liteinside03okay.. i got it.. then..05:20
morrowwhoiam: plus "-386" 05:20
whoiamliteinside03: type ./flash then press tab05:20
liteinside03ok..05:21
morrowif you have the correct version installed (-686 on my system) the vmware-config.pl will find the path05:21
whoiammorrow: I'm having problem with 686 kernel, even I'm using p4~2.805:22
liteinside03i am now to press ENTER05:22
whoiamliteinside03: ok, what it asking now ?05:22
whoiammorrow: I'll try 686 kernel once more time, last time I installed 686-smp05:22
whoiamliteinside03:  ?05:23
liteinside03macromedia flash player requires two font packages to be installed, gsfonts and gsfonts-xll05:23
liteinside03press enter to continue..05:24
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whoiamok press enter, now it should ask you the path of firefox type /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox and press enter05:24
whoiamliteinside03:  ^^05:24
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musashihey everyone, can anyone tell me how to fix this error? (iam trying to compile mysqlcc) 05:25
musashiconfigure: error: Could not find libmysqlclient in ' /usr/lib /usr/lib/mysql                    /usr/local/lib /usr/local/lib/mysql                    /usr/local/mysql/lib'05:25
whoiamwhat distro you using ?05:25
liteinside03okay, so i should point it out to the correct location...05:25
whoiamyeah correct location is /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox05:25
musashiyou talking to me whoiam?05:25
whoiammusashi: what distro you using ?05:26
musashi0.9.405:26
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whoiammusashi: erm.... I mean you using kubuntu or ubuntu ?05:26
musashiooh05:26
musashikubuntu05:26
musashihoary05:26
whoiammusashi: and you want to install mysql ?05:26
liteinside03how should i change it?05:27
musashimysqlcc05:27
liteinside03if i press n05:27
liteinside03nothing happens05:27
whoiamliteinside03: it is asking you the path ?05:27
liteinside03i guess q is for quit05:27
liteinside03the location was already written, i can't change it05:28
musashiwhoiam: i want to install mysqlcc, not the mysql server] 05:28
whoiammusashi: you compiling it ? why not try apt-get install mysqlcc05:28
liteinside03it is on /home/liteinside03/.mozilla05:28
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musashiwhoiam: i didnt know i could do that05:29
whoiamliteinside03: can't you type /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox here ?05:29
musashithanks buddy05:29
whoiammusashi: open shell 05:29
musashii know05:29
musashii am doing it now05:29
whoiam:)05:29
musashii mean i didnt know that i could get it from apt-get :P05:29
musashianyways, thanks for the help, really appreciate it05:29
whoiammusashi: thnx :) you are welcome05:30
liteinside03please enter 'y', 'n', or q 05:30
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musashihmm, under what application does it get installed?05:30
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liteinside03in my home directory05:31
musashino, iam talking about mysqlcc :P05:32
liteinside03i guess i should move the installer on usr/lib/mozilla-firefox directory..05:32
liteinside03and let's see..05:32
musashiliteinside03: what are you trying to do?05:32
whoiammusashi: can't get you :(05:32
musashinvm lol05:33
liteinside03and trying to install mozilla-firefox plugin... macromedia flash player05:33
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whoiamliteinside03: you there ?05:37
liteinside03whew... i can't copy it there...05:37
liteinside03it won't allow me...05:37
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liteinside03whoiam... got it installed... 05:41
liteinside03i had to type sudo -s05:41
liteinside03perform another installation? n -- right?05:41
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Kernel-Krisi cant get the ndiswrapper module to load05:47
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YourNickhelo 05:49
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liteinside03anybody, how do you copy a file on the konsole?05:52
liteinside03need to replace a file, but it won't allow me05:52
somonehelo 05:53
Kernel-Krisliteinside03: what are you trying to do05:53
somoneWhen run from Live-CD Is the ubentu booted with xserver? 05:54
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somonewith interface? 05:54
liteinside03i need to replace two in the plugins folder with the new one i got from macromedia05:55
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broxtorA while ago I tried kubuntu and found that Firefox was very unstable and crashed a lot. I also read reviews that said the same. Are those issues solved in breezy?06:02
liteinside03tulog na sila lahat...06:02
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jdefbroxtor: crashes were mainly random some experienced it some didn't but generally this release has looked very stable. My advice try it.06:05
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broxtorjdef> I think I will. I also tried Ubuntu and I really liked it. Except that I can't get used to Gnome for some reason06:08
broxtorI now use Suse 9.3, but I think Novell really screwed up Suse...06:08
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babaetulog na kau...06:09
babaegabi na!06:09
babae:)06:09
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Xorlevbroxtor: Kubuntu has KDE :P06:29
jdefbroxtor: I am a KDE person myself 06:29
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blackflaghello all :-)06:55
blackflagCan someone recommend a good , fast, secure FTP- Server for Debian?06:55
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The_Voxblackflag: proftpd is always good06:57
blackflag can I do sFTP with proftpd?06:58
The_Voxno, to do sftp you need an sftpd06:59
The_Voxwhich comes with openssh06:59
blackflagOn debian there is vsftpd07:00
The_VoxI've never used vsftpd07:01
nikkiavsftpd should be in ubuntu too, as i used it there :)07:01
nikkiai'm not convinced it does sftp tho07:01
blackflagbut no sftp, or?07:01
nikkiai was under the impression that 'vs' was for 'very secure ftpd'07:01
nikkiaie, its designed around chroot jails and such07:02
The_VoxI doubt anything aside of openssh's sftp (or the commercial sftpd) does sftp serving07:02
nikkiai ran it, because it was the only ftpd i could find that would easily let me bind ONLY to certain interfaces07:02
The_Voxnikkia: that's what my memory tells me to07:02
The_Voxtoo07:02
blackflagit is good for a "hosting" environment?07:02
nikkiaThe_Vox: on linux, you're probably right, on windows, i think the people behind cuteftp have their own sftp server07:03
The_Voxblackflag: it's what a good hosting environment?07:03
The_Voxnikkia: I haven't used windows since '96, so I wouldn't know and wouldn't care lol! :) On the other hand...I wouldn't trust it either :)07:03
blackflagI wnat to do a hosting server on debian basis with apache, ftp mysql..07:04
nikkiaThe_Vox: fair enough, just pointing out there may be other sfp servers elsewhere07:04
blackflagwhat is better? maybe a use of webdav?07:04
nikkiablackflag: erm, it'll suffice for a large number of uses07:04
blackflagwith https?07:04
The_Voxnikkia: fair enough :)07:04
nikkiablackflag: the real problem for 'hosting' is that if you're talking about offering hosting, someone, somewhere, will invariably ask for J2EE support, and that means  you *need* RHEL really07:05
blackflaghmm,i my country we have big webhoster using only debian07:05
The_Voxwouldn't CentOS be enough for that?07:05
nikkiaThe_Vox: for j2ee??07:06
nikkiaThe_Vox: i doubt it, installing J2EE on RHEL is daunting enough, i wouldn't even want to contemplate how little fun it'll be outside a 'supported' (and i use the word very loosely) environment :)07:06
nikkiaThe_Vox: for example, Sun very often depend on exact library versions, and RHEL often doesn't include them anymore :)07:07
babaepangatulog namo oi...07:08
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The_Voxnikkia: CentOS is a re-branded copy of RHEL07:08
The_Voxnikkia: they just do a s/RedHat/CentOS all through the code and recompile07:08
blackflagwhat means rebranded?07:08
nikkiaThe_Vox: that doesn't change the fact that getting J2EE installed on an exact 'officially supported version' of RHEL isn't fun07:08
The_Voxnikkia: I don't disagree on that part....I *hate* J2EE :)07:09
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nikkiaThe_Vox: yeah, but you just KNOW someone will ask for it, if you're offering hosting :)07:09
nikkiaand no amount of 'use tomcat!' will placate them :)07:09
The_Voxnikkia: which is why I don't do hosting anymore :)07:10
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The_Voxblackflag: the thing with hosting with anything-but-RHEL is that you will lose clients to the J2EE thing....but in my experience, unless you are aiming straight at the corporate hosting, the J2EE headache isn't worth it, so using debian or anything else is valid.07:12
nikkiawhat you could always do, is aim at debian, but be aware you might need a RHEL box or two in the long run, and either put J2EE-demanding customers on the RHEL box(es) or cross-link07:14
nikkia(you could even setup a shared disk system, and rewrite apache headers so that the J2EE stuff is auto-hosted by the RHEL box(es) :)07:14
The_Voxthat's a good solution, if you get/expect enough J2EE customers07:14
Dark_Sithhelleo people07:15
blackflagWhy I should need J2EE??07:15
blackflagANd when I need it is there not tomcat a good solution?07:15
gdhbecause sometimes the best quality apps are actually written in Java not by a 14-yr old with a copy of 'Learn teh PHP in 30 minutes l0l!!!!11'07:16
The_Voxblackflag: tomcat is a good solution...but there's people that believe there's nothing but J2EE that's worth using07:16
gdhOh right, I didn't realise 'J2EE' was the complete hosting part :)07:16
nikkiablackflag: and there's the fact that some customers will already have existing J2EE stuff they want to migrate, and if you don't offer J2EE...07:16
gdhShows how much of a shit I give for Java =)07:16
blackflagokay, and you mean centOS is also good for it?07:17
nikkiablackflag: i wouldn't put money on it, but it *might* work07:17
blackflagnikkia: Isee..07:17
nikkiablackflag: J2EE more often than not won't install on a fresh RHEL box, as i said, sun are idiots, they depend on *exact* library versions07:17
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Thijs_They!07:18
nikkiablackflag: getting a working J2EE setup is serious black magic :)07:18
blackflagbut my farvorite server distri is debian..07:18
Thijs_Tanyone can help me with installing java RE?07:18
blackflagI think I#ll work on it when  I need it07:18
Thijs_Ti got jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586-rpm.bin on my desktop, how can i install it (i am a total linux beginner)07:19
blackflagAnd RHEL coats a lot of money, or not?07:19
The_Voxblackflag: the best solution I think would be what nikkia said before...install debian on everything except one or two boxes, on which you can stick your J2EE nightmares07:19
blackflag:-)07:20
The_Voxblackflag: try with CentOS07:20
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The_Voxblackflag: if you can't make it work on that, think about paying for RHEL...but if it works on RHEL, it *should* work on CentOS.07:20
blackflagokay, I dont have any expirience with centOS07:20
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The_Voxblackflag: if you've ever used a redhat you've used CentOS07:21
slow-motionre07:21
blackflagonly some using of Suse07:21
nikkiaThe_Vox: as i said, sun, idiots :)07:21
nikkiaThe_Vox: a co-worker bought a boxed RHEL copy for their server a few weeks ago, then called me and asked me to help him install J2EE, naturally, the sun packages depended on libraries not on the CDs :)07:22
The_Voxnikkia: wouldn't doubt it07:22
nikkiawell, the *libraries* were there, just the wrong versions, and they were older versions sun wanted, than what was on the CDs07:22
The_Voxyou just start playing the symlinking game :)07:23
blackflagthats every where: developers things in developers mind07:23
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blackflagnot for users or admins ,sometimes07:24
blackflagI look forward to suse 1007:25
blackflagit is good for the not technical users07:26
blackflagMAybe some ubuntu devels have a look there07:26
blackflagsomething like yast5 is a very nice thing07:27
blackflagyast^^07:27
The_VoxI prefer mandriva for the newbie07:27
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blackflagbut , okay, for easy hosting is it a good idea to use vsftpd?07:31
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blackflag but okay Ill try it and make some expirience07:32
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blackflagthanks for help and the hint to J2EE07:32
The_Voxblackflag: I can't give you an opinion about vsftpd....I like and use proftpd, tho...it's simple and fast07:32
blackflagi have a look to it07:33
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elmagohe guys07:38
elmagoi want to add the breezy packages is there any risk? 07:38
elmagoi dont want to make a full dist upgrade07:38
elmagosomeone here?07:40
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mcscruffdoes kubuntu breezy have a firewall built in as default?07:47
seth_kno, but you don't need one07:48
seth_kno ports are open by default07:48
mcscruffthats my problem07:48
mcscruffi need to open some07:48
seth_kah07:48
mcscruffany idea how07:49
seth_k"open" means "something is listening on them", so you just need to start a server or whatever that listens on the port07:49
seth_kas for a firewall... shorewall?07:49
mcscruffi want to use bit torrent07:49
mcscruffbut the ports are closed07:50
seth_kthat's your router's issue07:50
seth_knot Kubuntu's07:50
seth_kthat's not how "opening" ports works07:50
mcscruffits kubuntu07:50
mcscruffi just tested on a live cd07:50
mcscruffand that works fine07:50
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seth_kI didn't have to unblock anything for Bittorrent or the like07:51
seth_kwhat client are you using?07:51
mcscruffazureus07:51
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seth_kdoes it pass the NAT test?07:51
seth_kin the config wizard07:51
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mcscruffnope07:51
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mcscruffi will download from the livecd07:53
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lotusleafDoes anyone here run F-Prot Anti-Virus on their Linux box?07:54
jpatrickno07:56
BlankByes.07:57
lotusleafBlankB, what version are you running?07:57
BlankBhmm...I dunno....still trying to figure it out.07:58
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lotusleafBlankB, type f-prot -verno07:59
BlankBthis one doesnt respond to -verno07:59
BlankBIts over 3 years old whatever it is.08:00
lotusleafwow08:00
BlankBok looking at CHANGES its v 3.1208:00
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BlankBPut it on may of 200208:01
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lotusleafBlankB, you should update it ;)08:03
BlankBsign.def created 22 spetember 200508:03
lotusleafwhat's the engine version?08:03
BlankBhow can i tell?08:04
lotusleafwell if it doesn't respond to f-prot -verno I don't know :P08:04
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lotusleafanyway, if it's outdated nevermind. I was curious to have someone else run a scan on their system because mine detected a possible unknown virus. :)08:06
lotusleafmore than likely a false positive, but you never know08:06
BlankBunderstood.08:06
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_chasedoes anyone know why cant use the KDE control panel in the new KDE? i click on Administror Mode type my password and then the page just reloads as a unprivalaged user with all the boxs up greyed out???08:28
lotusleafhave you tried sudo kcontrol?08:29
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_chaselotusleaf: no i hadnt, i was just trying to run it from the 'start' menu 08:30
_chasebut that works thanks08:30
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lotusleafyw ;)08:30
jpatrickcan anyone here point me to Kubuntu's usplash theme?08:31
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douglasI upgraded to breezy and now Kaffeine doesn't seem to work, I get three errors...08:32
douglasCan't init Audio Driver 'alsaink' - trying another one...08:33
douglasCan't init Video Driver 'xvimagesink' - trying another one...08:33
douglasNo useable video-driver found! (xvimagesink)08:33
douglas???08:33
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_starscreamanyone managed to get sleep working on the ibook /powerbook ?08:40
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douglasI upgraded to breezy and now Kaffeine doesn't seem to work, I get three errors...08:46
douglasCan't init Audio Driver 'alsaink' - trying another one...08:46
douglasCan't init Video Driver 'xvimagesink' - trying another one...08:46
douglasNo useable video-driver found! (xvimagesink)08:46
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_vichey can anyone help me?09:23
Riddell_vic: only if you say what the problem is09:24
_vicwell09:25
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_vicim using the new breezy preview09:25
_vicand i got no sound09:25
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_vicwell09:26
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dajomuAnyone know anything about Openldap?09:36
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dajomuI dissapeared for moment. Anyone know anytihng about Openldap?09:43
alleeFWIW: digikam 0.8 beta2 hoary pkgs.  Works for me: http://www.mpe.mpg.de/~ach/kubuntu/hoary/Pkgs.php09:44
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_vichey09:51
dajomuhey09:51
_viccan i login as root using konqueror09:51
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Blissex_vic: yes.09:52
_vichow?09:52
gdhout of interest... at install, is there any suggestion to use sudo / some doc to read?09:52
_vichuh09:52
_vici dont think so09:52
_vicim a linux noobie09:53
_vicheres the think, i mounted my windows partition09:53
_vicbut i cant access it using konqueror09:53
_vicbecuase i dont ahve the right "permissions"09:53
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gdhyeh..09:53
_vici can use the command line to see the files09:54
gdhyou need to mount it with options 'uid=yourusername,rw'09:54
_viccan u give me the full command for that09:54
_vic?09:54
gdhmount -o uid=username,rw //server/share /mnt/point09:54
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_vicok let me try that09:54
_vicdo i haev to unmount first?09:54
Blissex_vic: click the 'run as a different user' thingie in the menu item.09:55
gdhprefix the mount with 'sudo' etc.09:55
gdh_vic: Yes.09:55
Blissex_vic: but yes, mounting that partition as your user is a much better idea.09:55
Blissex_vic: is the partition local or remote?09:55
gdhoh, I didn't even consider a local partition =)09:56
_vicmount -o uid=vic,rw /mnt/ddrive09:57
_vicmount: can't find /mnt/ddrive in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab09:57
_vicits local09:57
dajomu_vic: this is what I have in my fstab for mounting a fat32 partition09:58
dajomu /dev/hda7       /mnt/win_d      vfat    defaults,auto,uid=1000,gid=1000 0       009:58
_vici cant open fstab becuase i cant login as root09:58
_vickubuntu wont let me for some reason09:58
_vicis there anyway i can fix that09:58
_vic?09:58
dajomukubuntu use sudo09:58
dajomuyou dont log in as root in (k)ubuntu09:59
dajomutry sudo vi /etc/fstab09:59
_vic?09:59
_vichuh?09:59
dajomuthen you get access to the fstab file where you can add the line that mounts your partition10:00
_vici still dont get it10:00
_vic:o10:00
nargsup all?10:00
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_vico wait10:01
_vici htink i got it10:01
_vichold up10:01
dajomu_vic: if you get tired of using the sudo for every command then you can enable the root password with doing "sudo passwd root"10:03
dajomuthen you can su - to root10:03
_vicummm10:03
_vichow to i reload the fstab file10:03
_vicbecuas ei just changed it10:03
_vicI*10:03
dajomumount -a10:03
_victhats it/10:03
_vicok10:03
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_vicroot@ubuntu:/etc# mount a10:04
_vicmount: can't find a in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab10:04
_vicroot@ubuntu:/etc#   10:04
_victhats wierd....10:04
_vicOH10:05
_vici got it10:05
_victhank you10:05
_vic<3 people10:05
_vichey can i ask 1 more question10:05
_vicmy sound10:05
_vicno worky10:05
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Blissex_vic: troubleshooting section of http://tinyurl.com/4ogk210:06
Blissex_vic: also have a look at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//DebuggingSoundProblems/10:06
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Blissex_vic: and considering reading http://tinyurl.com/bz8v4 on how to ask better questions than my sound no worky10:07
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_victhats the most confusing thing ive ever read10:08
_vicwell10:08
_vici think kubuntu isnt detecting the correct soundcard10:08
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_vicCan anyone please help me10:11
Blissex_vic: thats the clearest thing you will find on the subject...10:13
williedi d the sound card work OK in windows?10:13
_vicyes10:14
_vicis not a sound "card"10:14
_vicits integrated10:14
_vicwith my compaq motherboard10:14
ChousukeCall it a chip then10:14
_vicmeh10:14
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_vicwasnt there a command that would let me reconfigure my sound card10:15
_viclike alsaconf or something10:15
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Blissex_vic: not so easy...10:15
Blissex_vic: just follow the troubleshooting section above...10:15
williewhat does aplay -l give you?10:15
_viclet me try10:16
_vicvic@ubuntu:~$ aplay -l10:16
_vic**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****10:16
_viccard 0: I82801BAICH2 [Intel 82801BA-ICH2] , device 0: Intel ICH [Intel 82801BA-ICH2] 10:16
_vic  Subdevices: 0/110:16
_vic  Subdevice #0: subdevice #010:16
_vicvic@ubuntu:~$10:16
_vici dont think its an intel chip10:16
williethats funny cos it thinks it is10:16
_vicreally?10:17
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williewell it just said so10:18
_vicwell then why doesnt my sound work10:18
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dajomujust saw something strange in my fstab file. anyone know what this is doing at the end of the fstab? Got 7 lines similar to this. /tmp/app/1/image /tmp/app/1 cramfs,iso9660 user,noauto,ro,loop,exec 0 010:19
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Blissexdajomu: that is indeed odd. Those look like giving the ability to mount filesystem images as read-only filesystems.10:21
Blissexdajomu: it is very very unlikely that some app added them.10:21
dajomuBlissex : I sure didn't put them there.. Some program must have put it there10:22
dajomuif it werent for vic10:22
dajomui wouldnt have seen it10:22
Blissexdajomu: that some program has put them there is extraordinarily unlikely.10:23
Blissexdajomu: what does 'find /tmp/app -type f | sort | xargs ls -ld' say?10:24
dajomuBlissex: no such file or directory10:24
dajomuahh.. maybe it could have been "klik"?10:25
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dajomuI know that klik installed a /tmp/app directory10:25
Blissexdajomu: ah yes, that's something that 'klik' could have created.10:25
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dajomuBlissex: Do you know if klik makes one line in fstab for each program installed by it?10:26
Blissexdajomu: no idea, seems weird.10:28
dajomuBlissex: yup10:28
Blissexdajomu: it could be that it does one for each _concurrent_ install.10:28
dajomuBlissex: it seem like it. I'll have a look at it tomorrow. Now it is bedtime for me10:29
hussamis kubuntu.org down ?10:29
dajomuno10:30
hussamI can't access neither archive.ubuntu.com not kubuntu.org 10:30
dajomuno problem from here10:32
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freemanenhow do get streaming mp3 to work?10:32
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Blissexfreemanen: carefully...10:34
seaLnehussam: i can't get to kubuntu.org either10:35
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hussamseaLne: does ubuntulinux.org work ? I can't get to that either10:36
hussamseaLne: it times out10:36
seaLnesame but then they are on the same network10:37
hussamseaLne: same server perhaps10:38
seaLnedon't think so but don't actually know10:38
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hussamseaLne: do they timeout for you, or do you get another message?10:39
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seaLne12  82.211.81.76 (82.211.81.76)  1.747 ms  1.948 ms  2.003 ms10:40
seaLne13  * *10:40
_oshwhat's a good program to test your drive if you suspect corruption?10:40
seaLne_osh: pretend you don't have a backup, then it will die10:40
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hussamseaLne: that's a traceroute?10:41
_oshseaLne: I don'10:41
_osht10:41
seaLnehussam: yeah10:41
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seaLneno packet loss at 82.211.81.76 just nothing answering form the look of it10:42
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hussamseaLne: 82.211.81.76 is what site? kubuntu.org or ubuntulinux.org?10:42
seaLneprobably the last hop before the servers10:42
seaLnealtho maybe not as it is a quite large net allocation10:44
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hussamseaLne: so it could be just us?10:44
seaLneno10:44
hussamseaLne: a timout means it resolved the address but got not reply back from kubuntu.org?10:45
seaLneyeah10:45
hussamseaLne: is there anybody we can report this too? maybe some server administrator at ubuntu.10:47
seaLnei imagine they will have noticed10:47
hussamI just asked somebody on my contact list on kopete and he can actually open kubuntu.org10:48
seaLnemaybe cached or alternate route10:49
hussamseaLne: oh ok I got that10:49
_oshno good tools for checking a disk?10:50
seaLnebadblocks10:51
hussam_osh: you can schedule a disk check on next boot. do this: sudo touch /forcefsck10:51
_oshhussam: Thanks I'll try that right away. =)10:52
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_vicdamn it11:02
_vicstill no sound11:03
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nicservus miteinander11:28
nickann mir jemand sagen wie ich unter kubuntu die internetverbindung teilen kann11:28
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niclallalala, kann mir das niemand sagen ?11:29
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niccan anybody tell me how to share my internet connection with kubuntu?11:30
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jakedahnhey can someone tell me how to reset my resolution??11:46
PiRX[lv] jakedahn, what do you mean by "reset my resolution"?11:50
PiRX[lv] someone can suggest me a small tool for drawing simple diagramms?11:51
jakedahnin kde when i did my first boot im set to 1024x76811:51
jakedahni need 1280x102411:51
jakedahni used to know how to do it but i forgot the script11:52
jakedahnit has something to do with xorg conifiguration11:52
seaLne/etc/X111/xorg.conf11:52
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