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derek[] :)09:32
AndyFitzg'day09:33
derek[] good day! :)09:36
derek[] I received Ubuntu CDs a day before..09:36
derek[] I'm very happy :)09:36
derek[] I ran the live CD and was very satisfied :)09:36
AndyFitzgreat09:37
derek[] Then I went to their site, to drop a thanking message09:38
derek[] but found that my account was washed out.. and now i needed to re-register at some launchpad site09:38
derek[] Anyway, I'd like to contribute to this great open-source community09:39
kamstrupyou are most welcome derek[]  :-D09:40
derek[] :D09:40
kamstrupWhat kinda stuff do you like to do?09:41
derek[] i'm not really an expert in using the os tools yet, but i'm into graphic designing09:43
derek[] http://derek.vnvsoft.com/09:43
derek[] my main skills are in Flash animations09:44
derek[] which, sadly, i may have to leave when I migrate to linux09:44
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kamstrupYeah that is likely... :-(09:51
kamstrupBut Inkscape is a GREAT tool for SVG editing :-D09:51
derek[] :D09:51
derek[] no doubt09:51
derek[] It really impressed me very much! I love Inkscape!09:51
kamstrup:-D09:52
derek[] and in many ways I found it better than Adobe Illustrator :)09:52
kamstrupThe Inkscape developers will be glad to hear that!09:52
kamstrupWhat version of Inkscape have you been using?09:52
derek[] started recently09:53
derek[] 0.4209:53
kamstrupOK. I just saw that you recieved Ubuntu CDs in the mail and figured you where using Hoary... - which doesn't have 0.4209:54
kamstrupThe on-canvas gradient editing in 0.42 is a great improvement over previous editions09:55
derek[] i'm in windoze right now09:56
derek[] haven't installed nix yet09:56
derek[] coz i have to wrap up some old work started in flash09:56
derek[] but i've started using inkscape and gimp, instead of illustrator and photoshop, already :)09:57
kamstrupalso in Windows?09:57
derek[] also ?09:58
derek[] yea i'm using the windows versions09:58
kamstrupoh, just saw that you hadn't installed nix yet :-) Cool09:59
derek[] :)10:02
derek[] what about you?10:02
AndyFitzheya derek[]   your site won't work 10:03
AndyFitzwithout jscrip10:03
derek[] yea :/10:03
derek[] you don't have js enabled?10:03
AndyFitzI do now .10:03
derek[] okay10:03
AndyFitzgoogle doesn't like your site mate.   w3 it up10:04
AndyFitz;-)10:04
kamstrupderek[] : I run Ubuntu Breezy exclusively.10:04
derek[] kamstrup, kool. but it isn't a final release ..10:05
derek[] AndyFitz, :)10:05
derek[] AndyFitz, hope you have the flash plugin installed10:06
AndyFitzderek I do.  I teach tutor flash to design studios ( while evangelising inkscape for illustration of course )10:07
derek[] I see :)10:07
derek[] Who designed the Ubuntu logo?10:12
AndyFitza studio in south africa10:12
derek[] I see10:13
kamstrupIf I where to do a 3d-ish Ubuntu logo, would the three circles map to spheres or cylinders?10:13
AndyFitzI have a great respect for identity discovery and wouldnt attempt it at my current design weight 10:14
derek[] spheres10:14
derek[] AndyFitz, i didn't get you10:14
kamstrup... hehe. I'd figure cylinders myself derek[]  10:14
AndyFitzkamstrup,  technically its a trademark and you can't do anything to it without permission10:14
derek[] kamstrup, those circles are the heads of the people I reckon :) ..so spheres ;)10:15
kamstrupAndyFitz: Yes. But what if I'm designing wallpapers I'd like to request for submission in Breezy?10:15
AndyFitzderek[]  there are people who put serious thought into design.  a brand design created a huge amount of maturity and insight10:16
derek[] and why would you not do it?10:16
AndyFitzkamstrup then design the wallpaper and use the ubuntu logo correctly.  ( enough whitespace.  no closeness to other logos  etc10:16
derek[] i mean, if you're required to design a brand identity10:16
AndyFitzderek[]  maybe one day I will be doing that.10:17
derek[] ok =)10:17
AndyFitzderek[]  if I was require I would refuse10:17
derek[] why?10:17
kamstrupAndyFitz: What I'd like to do is to make the Ubuntu logo enclose the earth10:17
AndyFitzits not my place. Id have the respect for the entity requesting my services to reccomend them to the right studio. not attempt it myself and give them second grade design10:18
AndyFitzkamstrup.  I'm sorry we really need to create a brand guide for ubuntu ( I believe canonical is doing this )  it will mention more about the logo and how to use it .10:18
AndyFitzright now we only have a few set in stone rules ..  like  don't rotate it so one of the circles is directly on top or below10:19
derek[] ohh10:19
derek[] :)10:19
derek[] I didn't notice the fixed positioning10:19
derek[] :)10:19
derek[] nice!10:19
AndyFitzit would send a bad message to have an entity on the top or bottom .   visually:  it places one member of the community at an un-equal balance of the others10:20
kamstrupI better lay off a 3d model then, since there's no official way of doing 3d-circle-of-friends...l 10:20
AndyFitzas if to say "  this guy has to carry the weight"  or  "this guy is above these other two guys "10:20
derek[] Guys, although I'm not an expert-level graphic-artist, (may be not even intermediate), I'd be very glad to help out the ubuntu-artwork in anyway I could. So please ask me if I could be of any use. :)10:21
AndyFitzderek[]  that would be awesome mate10:21
derek[] :] 10:21
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AndyFitzderek[]  do you use a form of instant messenger ?10:21
derek[] AndyFitz, i get your point.10:21
derek[] Yeah10:21
derek[] all :D hehe10:21
derek[] i've been a windoze user ;)10:21
AndyFitzsweet .  PM me and I'll add you   brisgeek@jabber.org is my jabber10:22
derek[] aww :(.. not jabber10:22
derek[] I use MSN, ICQ, Yahoo10:22
AndyFitzokay pm me your ICQ ;-)10:22
derek[] ok10:22
kamstrupCheck out my proposal here: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2005-September/000260.html10:23
derek[] AndyFitz, got it ;)10:24
derek[] kamstrup, ok. 10:24
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kamstrupAs far as our authority goes, we don't have much. As far as I know we are to _suggest _ various items for inclusion, and then Canonical/Ubuntu-devs deecide whether or not to use it.10:27
derek[] I see10:28
kamstrupIt's a bit frustrating not knowing whether or not a piece of work is going to be used, but that's how it is for now. If we really do good that might change.10:29
derek[] Okay :)10:29
derek[] - Artwork 2005-09-2910:30
derek[] - Release 2005-10-1310:30
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derek[] The six calender wallpapers should have a 11:17
derek[] common red thread - maybe even a history.11:17
derek[] "red thread"?11:17
kamstrupI don't know if it's a proper english term...11:17
kamstrupLike a common idea11:17
derek[] I see11:18
kamstrupsharing a theme/feel/mood etc11:18
derek[] understood11:18
kamstrup:-D11:18
derek[] :] 11:18
derek[] http://art.ubuntu.com/images/backgrounds/Ubuntu-UbuntuGlasses_1600x1200.jpg11:27
derek[] nice11:28
derek[] who did it?11:28
derek[] Is this totally CG?11:31
kamstrupDon't know...11:33
derek[] ok11:33
kamstrupIf it's a photography there's prolly some copyrights problems attached to it... :-S11:34
derek[] :/11:35
derek[] Some nice CG work: http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=5735511:37
kamstrupYeah, nice, but not exactly what you'd include in a commercial distro ;-P11:55
derek[] ?11:56
derek[] commercial distro?11:56
kamstrupWell... Commercial and commercial... Ubuntu is sort of commercial if you ask me. In a good way that is!11:57
derek[] o.o11:58
derek[] Its free!11:58
derek[] commercial is - that which is making money11:59
derek[] :)11:59
derek[] is it?11:59
kamstrupI guess that it's a long term goal to make money. I don't know _anything_ about this though...12:07
kamstrupIt will always be free of charge12:07
derek[] yes12:09
derek[] and they said, even the enterprise edition will be free12:09
derek[] be back later12:30
ograi dont think comercial aspects have any point here, but rather, the question: does a girl firing a weapon on someone, comply with the "humanity to others" slogan we tout... ;)12:35
kamstrupThat was also (to some extent) I meant. "Is this the message you want to send as an enterprise?" (touting Humanity to others)...12:49
kamstrup;-P12:49
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kamstrupGotta go. If you're subscribed to ubuntu-art check your mailboxes... Cheers!01:38
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AndyFitzhahahahahaha  I just saw the images in question03:31
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kamstrup... sorry, what was he talking about?03:32
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mpathyHi there.. I came because of the appeal in the mailing list.. what need to be done? :)04:55
mpathynobody here?05:02
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