[12:00] <P229> spermite: so, unless you have /boot on its own partition, / should be ext3
[12:00] <_twitch_> it does the CD part
[12:00] <Seveas> You can mount it rw, but you can't actually write
[12:00] <_twitch_> then it does the next part
[12:00] <Seveas> (iirc)
[12:00] <_twitch_> and theni t happens
[12:00] <aaron__> alrighty, i installed 5.10, im on it, but its detecting the onboard sound card, not the sb live 24, can i get some help!
[12:00] <_twitch_> im on a 56k with a winmodem
[12:00] <P229> Seveas: I know :) but I've noticed some people insist upon using reiserfs
[12:00] <[LethAL] > Seveas, Oh... phew... no fscking things up then...
[12:00] <_twitch_> and i told it i'd configure the network later
[12:00] <Seveas> aaron__, easiest: disable the onboard in the bios
[12:00] <Scrawny1> ok I'm d/ling it now thx Seveas :)
[12:00] <stylus_2> I need help with installation and audio stuff on ubuntu, someone please quiery me
[12:00] <bluegene007> i posted the problem in bugzilla and the result was fan is controlled by BIOS not OS because nothing available in /proc/acpi/fan but it's working normally in windows
[12:00] <_twitch_> i did the same with a friend's pc
[12:00] <crimsun> WebLOCH: yes?
[12:00] <_twitch_> it went straight to the login.
[12:01] <WebLOCH> crimsun, i gots audiowoes again, bit different this time
[12:01] <cusco> !sunjava
[12:01] <ubotu> For Sun-Java debs add this line to your /etc/apt/sources.list (for hoary) deb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ hoary java  ; or go to seveas.ubuntulinux.nl (for Breezy)
[12:01] <aaron__> lol, i had a hell of a bad time installing 5.10, but its all good now, redid everything
[12:01] <spermite> P229 what should /home be?
[12:01] <P229> Seveas: are there any plans for ubuntu to ship with selinux and have it enabled by default?
[12:01] <nxv_> Seveas: i removed all with the name postgres: apt-get remove postgres* and then installed postgresql-7.4
[12:01] <marska> Hey dude! I can't play mp3 files, why?
[12:01] <Seveas> P229, fortunately no direct plans
[12:01] <marska> Dude?
[12:01] <WebLOCH> crimsun, got it running fine for about two days, now after rebooting ive noticed that I cant playback in xmms through "OSS" or "ALSA"
[12:01] <teebonez> hi
[12:01] <Seveas> !mp3
[12:01] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[12:01] <P229> spermite: /home should be whatever you want it to be... I advise ext3
[12:01] <spermite> i got 3 ext3 dont look right
[12:02] <crimsun> WebLOCH: hoary or breezy?
[12:02] <WebLOCH> crimsun, hoary
[12:02] <nxv_> Seveas: didn't work no process listening at the right port no script to start it from /etc/init.d/
[12:02] <P229> spermite: huh?
[12:02] <marska> P229, I always thought /home was where the heart was?
[12:02] <crimsun> WebLOCH: are you using an ~/.asoundrc or /etc/asound.conf?
[12:02] <tovella> _twitch_: what does cycling the power do?
[12:02] <WebLOCH>  crimsun, err dont really know to be honest, whats the diff
[12:02] <Seveas> I have postmaster listening at 5432
[12:02] <P229> marska: I don't know about you, but my heart isn't formatted with any fs ;)
[12:03] <[LethAL] > LOL
[12:03] <_twitch_> cycling the power?
[12:03] <nxv_> Seveas: something must be broken here, but what might be the reason
[12:03] <bluegene007> i posted the problem in bugzilla and the result was fan is controlled by BIOS not OS because nothing available in /proc/acpi/fan but it's working normally in windows should i wait for breezy final to be fixed
[12:03] <Flinty> any good resources for a Ubuntu n00b to read upon ?
[12:03] <marska> P229, I guess if you format with NTFS, Microsoft owns your soul?
[12:03] <Seveas> dunno, run /etc/init.d/postgresql-7.4 manually
[12:03] <crimsun> WebLOCH: XMMS should work through the esound output, no?
[12:03] <P229> Seveas: heh, "fortunately?" I agree it can be a hellishly severe headache, but still :)
[12:03] <Seveas> marska, lol :)
[12:03] <[LethAL] > Flinty, wiki.ubuntu.com
[12:03] <linuxmonkey> help, im trying to compile the modules for rtl8180 and im getting *** No rule to make target `modules'.  Stop.   Can anyone help me, am I missing something
[12:03] <Flinty> ty
[12:03] <spermite>  /boot - ext3 -- /home- ext3/  --and  /root ext3 does that matter?
[12:03] <WebLOCH> crimsun, yeah it does
[12:04] <tovella> _twitch_: turn off the power at the switch, leave it off for 30 seconds or so, then turn the power back on, AKA "cold boot"
[12:04] <teebonez> spermite, no
[12:04] <P229> marska: perhaps /me shrugs
[12:04] <spermite> ok
[12:04] <DavidLeeRoth> what is the command for updating?
[12:04] <[LethAL] > linuxmonkey, use make, not make modules
[12:04] <nxv_> Seveas: no runscript 4 postgres in /etc/init.d
[12:04] <crimsun> WebLOCH: is the esound output not up to snuff for you?
[12:04] <_twitch_> it goes to boot up
[12:04] <Seveas> nxv_, hmm
[12:04] <linuxmonkey> lethal I did and get same error
[12:04] <P229> spermite: looks ok, I think
[12:04] <_twitch_> boots up
[12:04] <_twitch_> when its about to go into gnome
[12:04] <_twitch_> i get that screen.
[12:04] <[LethAL] > linuxmonkey, Is there a /ko file in the dir?
[12:04] <_twitch_> the live CD wont work either
[12:04] <[LethAL] > .ko*
[12:04] <WebLOCH> crimsun, well its just the fact that the ALSA and OSS modules worked yesterday and notr today that leads me to feel something is wrong and needs sorting
[12:04] <_twitch_> does the same thing.
[12:05] <karimw786> can someone point me in the right direction: i have XP-Ubuntu dual boot, I would like to remove Ubuntu and go back to 100% XP.
[12:05] <P229> spermite: mine partitioning is as follows... /boot(ext3) /(ext3) /home(ext3)
[12:05] <nxv_> what is the cleanest installation 4 breezy? insert cd install ubuntu sever version switch sources.list to breezy and then install the rest?
[12:05] <Seveas> dennis@blackbird ~ $ dpkg -S /etc/init.d/postgresql-7.4
[12:05] <Seveas> postgresql-7.4: /etc/init.d/postgresql-7.4
[12:05] <linuxmonkey> yes there is 8180_26_private.ko
[12:05] <P229> karimw786: where did you install the grub bootloader?
[12:05] <bam_> boot into the windows recovery console
[12:05] <crimsun> WebLOCH: switch to the ALSA output and tell me the error you get
[12:05] <Lie-Algebra> hi, when mounting a cd/dvd recorder, do I have to use the option "ro" or the option "rw" in the fstab file?
[12:05] <spermite> P229 =0)
[12:06] <bam_> then there is a command for restoring the mbr, google for it
[12:06] <WebLOCH> crimsun, "Cant open audio"
[12:06] <Scrawny1> so why do I get this line when I do an update for the java backport?
[12:06] <[LethAL] > linuxmonkey, try sudo insmod 8180_26_private.ko
[12:06] <Scrawny1> E: Malformed line 59 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist)
[12:06] <crimsun> WebLOCH: lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*
[12:06] <[LethAL] > linuxmonkey, don't kill me if it doesn't work
[12:06] <bam_> this will kill any changes made to it
[12:06] <karimw786> P229: MBR is ewhere grub is installed
[12:06] <P229> bam_: if the windows bootloader in the MBR is still intact, he could toggle the boot flag on hd0,0
[12:06] <tovella> _twitch_: sounds like there may be a video or a memory problem with your hardware.
[12:06] <bam_> yea he could
[12:06] <linuxmonkey> i dont think it will ..lol
[12:06] <bam_> but, this is prolly easier
[12:07] <tovella> _twitch_: have you tried the memory test option?
[12:07] <bam_> hek im just tring to get samba to work with my z
[12:07] <_twitch_> na, should i?
[12:07] <Scrawny1> Seveas can I pm ya' a min pls :)
[12:07] <P229> karimw786: yep, you'll need to startup into the windows recovery console... research fixmbr
[12:07] <Phr0stByte> How ca I test what ports are open and usable on my system ?
[12:07] <bam_> there ya go
[12:07] <aaron__> its detecting the card now, and all that, but still no sound coming out of it
[12:08] <tovella> _twitch_: try the recovery mode option, first.
[12:08] <[LethAL] > P229, karimw786 It's just fixmbr in the recovery console
[12:08] <karimw786> ok thanks P229
[12:08] <WebLOCH> crimsun, sorry :(
[12:08] <linuxmonkey> insmod: error inserting '8180_26_private.ko': -1 Invalid module format
[12:08] <_twitch_> you think it might be the card?
[12:08] <cusco> Seveas:
[12:08] <cusco> Err http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl ubuntu-seveas/breezy-extras w32codecs 1:20050412-0.0 401 Unathenticated
[12:08] <aaron__> no, cause ive got windows on the same pc and it works great
[12:08] <P229> karimw786: whatever you do, don't kill ubuntu until you've done fixmbr
[12:08] <WebLOCH> crimsun,   http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2522
[12:08] <tovella> _twitch_: perhaps
[12:08] <P229> karimw786: and have verified that you can get into windows without grub
[12:08] <[LethAL] > linuxmonkey, which kernel you on (uname -r)
[12:09] <Scrawny1> I'm almost tempted to go to breezy rite now
[12:09] <linuxmonkey> hrmm hold a sec
[12:09] <aaron__> trust me its nice
[12:09] <P229> [LethAL] : thanks... it's been so long (thank God!)
[12:09] <concept10> I just dist-upgraded from hoary to breezy and now it says it can config xserver. Suggestions anyone?
[12:09] <tudor> my usb key is automounted in read only, how can I change that?
[12:09] <concept10> *it cant
[12:09] <[LethAL] > P229, I've only been using Linux for 2 weeks
[12:09] <linuxmonkey> na2.6.10-5-386
[12:09] <aaron__> so ive no clue what to do now, without sound and all
[12:10] <cusco> concept10: what heppens on sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:10] <[LethAL] > linuxmonkey, Damn, I can't compile it for you
[12:10] <concept10> let me try that
[12:10] <karimw786> ok so just start windows in the recovery console, run fixmbr, then what?
[12:10] <tovella> _twitch_: cold boot the machine.  the grub menu list can be accessed using the escape key, when you see the prompt.  then you can select recovery mode.
[12:10] <P229> [LethAL] : so learning about fixmbr was a trial-by-error learning experience?
[12:10] <concept10> cusco I forgot, how do I get a new tty screen?
[12:10] <[LethAL] > linuxmonkey, try sudo aptitude build-essential linux-headers`uname -r`
[12:10] <[LethAL] > P229, Nope, I've never had to fix it because of Linux
[12:10] <_twitch_> thanks tovella
[12:10] <concept10> nevermind
[12:10] <cusco> concept10: alt + ctrl + F2
[12:11] <_twitch_> what should i be looking for in the memtest?
[12:11] <cusco> F3 F4
[12:11] <P229> [LethAL] : good deal
[12:11] <_twitch_> and/or recovery mode/
[12:11] <_twitch_> ?
[12:11] <tudor> anyone knows where the config is for the automount ?
[12:11] <Plazma> man i need a swift kick ni my ass, i have my ubuntu cd sitting here and a free partion, but im to damn lazy to do anything about it
[12:11] <barongas> I'm having some issues mounting an iso, when I mount it it says wrong fs type, bad option, etc etc so I check dmesg | tail and it says VFS: Can't find ext3 filesystem on dev loop0. and Unable to identify CD-ROM format. I'm not sure where to start...
[12:11] <tovella> _twitch_: look for a login prompt.  we just want to isolate your problem from the the graphics stuff.
[12:11] <[LethAL] > Plazma, you fool... wait... Do I know you?
[12:12] <_twitch_> ok, i have to go re-install ubuntu
[12:12] <_twitch_> :P
[12:12] <P229> barongas: you have to specify fs type
[12:12] <concept10> i never used bitchx before and cant scroll up cusco: what should I do again dpkg --reconfigure xserver?
[12:12] <_twitch_> ill be back in a bit, tovella.
[12:12] <chavo> barongas, sudo mount -o loop /path/to/iso /mnt/point
[12:12] <Plazma> bah
[12:12] <tovella> _twitch_: why, did you remove it, already?
[12:12] <Plazma> hmm
[12:12] <_twitch_> i had to format
[12:12] <barongas> P229 I used mount -o loop -t iso9660 /iso /point
[12:12] <_twitch_> i didnt know i could use the windows recovery disc to remove grub from the MBR, it wouldnt load windows
[12:12] <Plazma> Lethal, no you don't know me
[12:12] <concept10> Jan_: heh
[12:12] <_twitch_> anyway, so yeah
[12:12] <Jan_> I'm NOT joking
[12:12] <_twitch_> imma go re-install
[12:12] <chavo> you don't need the filesystem type
[12:13] <cusco> concept10: to scrool up would be alt+p (previoues) alt+n(next) it was sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:13] <_twitch_> ive tried installing twice
[12:13] <[LethAL] > Plazma, Ok... I just have plazma on msn ;)
[12:13] <_twitch_> same thing both times
[12:13] <concept10> Jan_: im about to make that note myself
[12:13] <chavo> barongas, try it w/o filesystem type
[12:13] <linuxmonkey> duh ok looks like i was missing some tools
[12:13] <Plazma> Lethal, well being as that is, want my msn?
[12:13] <[LethAL] > If you want, but PM me it ... don't want nasty people getting it
[12:13] <Plazma> mmmm nuggets
[12:13] <_twitch_> tovella
[12:13] <Plazma> right
[12:13] <_twitch_> could i get yoru msn or something?
[12:14] <tovella> why does ubuntu seem to allow the first user name to hijack ownership of all the subsequently created user directories?  how can I stop this from occurring?
[12:14] <_twitch_> ill be back.
[12:14] <P229> barongas: did you try it without specifying fs type?
[12:14] <barongas> chavo I found the problem. Obviously these iso are special somehow. It's a playstation game and I think it might be a bin-file disguised as an iso
[12:14] <P229> did it work?
[12:15] <P229> ah
[12:15] <chavo> aha
[12:15] <Concord_Dawn> forums are down?
[12:15] <khermans> which is the right way to add a new user, useradd or adduser?
[12:15] <barongas> Is there a way to make bins turn into isos without the cue-file?
[12:15] <P229> khermans: useradd (adduser might work, too)
[12:15] <khermans> barongas, bin2iso
[12:15] <[pbC] Obst> hi
[12:16] <barongas> khermans sweet
[12:16] <drbrown> has anyone had any luck installing the ati proprietary driver?????
[12:16] <crimsun> WebLOCH: that's because esd is hogging the ALSA device
[12:16] <WebLOCH> crimsun, hmm how did that happen?  how can i stop it? and all that sort of business
[12:16] <khermans> barongas, http://users.andara.com/~doiron/bin2iso/
[12:16] <Concord_Dawn> forums are down?
[12:16] <crimsun> WebLOCH: beats me, I don't use Hoary, and I don't know what you did.
[12:16] <khermans> barongas,  bin2iso new.cue -c your.bin
[12:16] <Snoblower> can someone give me like... a private walkthrough on how to setup partitions? i don't have a clue what i'm doing and need some serious help.
[12:17] <tudor> anyone tried a usb hd? did it automount?
[12:17] <crimsun> tudor: yes, mine did
[12:17] <linuxmonkey> bah it still doesnt work, when i do make it gives me make[1] : *** No rule to make target `modules'.  Stop.
[12:17] <MrLaminar> hey everyone.
[12:17] <tristanmike> Snoblower, http://www3.telus.net/linux4u/ubuntu.html
[12:17] <tudor> crimsun: what permissions did it have?
[12:17] <crimsun> linuxmonkey: what in the world are you trying to do?
[12:17] <WebLOCH> crimsun, okay thanks for the help anyway
[12:17] <MrLaminar> i just upgraded hoary to breezy and have no sound, although xmms shows that it's playing
[12:17] <barongas> khermans checking it out
[12:17] <tudor> crimsun: was it read-only mounted?
[12:18] <crimsun> MrLaminar: cat /proc/asound/modules
[12:18] <crimsun> tudor: no, why?
[12:18] <khermans> barongas, it is not in the repos
[12:18] <MrLaminar> crimsun: 0 snd_cs46xx
[12:18] <tudor> crimsun: 'couse my usb-key gets automounted in read-only mode
[12:18] <WebLOCH> crimsun, just killed ESD and now all is sound again, thanks for assisting haha, ill try not to be so quick to ask next time
[12:18] <crimsun> tudor: did you modify /etc/fstab manually?
[12:18] <Snoblower> tristanmike, i have ubuntu right now, i need to figure out how to do it so that i can install windows xp
[12:19] <WebLOCH> Anyone have an intermediate to advance linux guide?  I think I'm ready for more reading
[12:19] <tristanmike> Snoblower, you should always install XP first
[12:19] <tristanmike> Snoblower, XP will rewrite the grub
[12:19] <tudor> crimsun: no, there's nothing in the fstab about it
[12:19] <crimsun> WebLOCH: there are a variety of resources on the Web; try the Ubuntu wiki, O'Reilly's Web site, ...
[12:19] <Phr0stByte> How ca I test what ports are open and usable on my system ?
[12:19] <Snoblower> tristanmike, i did install it first, but i haven't got a clue what i'm doing so i accidentally installed ubuntu over windows xp :(
[12:19] <concept10> Jan_: did you get your system working?
[12:19] <barongas> khermans the linux link on that page is broken :( I'll just google for it
[12:19] <MrLaminar> should i kill ESD too?!
[12:19] <WebLOCH> crimsun, I've tried the ubuntu wiki, i mean more advanced as I think i have the basics down
[12:19] <tristanmike> Snoblower, ahh, I see
[12:19] <crimsun> MrLaminar: paste the output from ''amixer'' onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:19] <linuxmonkey> crimsun, check pm
[12:19] <WebLOCH> MrLaminar, don't kill anything lol
[12:20] <chavo> WebLOCH, man is man's best friend
[12:20] <khermans> barongas, wget http://users.andara.com/~doiron/bin2iso/bin2iso19b.c && gcc -o bin2iso bin2iso19b.c && sudo mv bin2iso /usr/bin
[12:20] <crimsun> linuxmonkey: do not pm me
[12:20] <Snoblower> tristanmike, can ya help a moron out?
[12:20] <WebLOCH> chavo,  yeah but man is only any good if you know WHAT you need to man
[12:20] <linuxmonkey>  ok what im trying to do is to get my wifi card to work.... its a stupid d-link dwl-610 and using realtek chipset, so with that said I downloaded the linux drivers and modified it as per instructions to my card model and then  try to compile it and get that error
[12:20] <WebLOCH> ive just learned about lsof from crimsun, but if i hadnt just asked, id have no idea about it
[12:21] <miguel> hola
[12:21] <tristanmike> Snoblower, how much space do you have?
[12:21] <miguel> alguien que este con deseo de charlar un poco
[12:21] <Snoblower> er.. i dunno :(
[12:21] <crimsun> linuxmonkey: I presume you installed build-essential and linux-headers-$(uname -r) via apt-get?
[12:21] <concept10> gosh, I hope I dont have to reinstall
[12:21] <Snoblower> 40GB maybe
[12:21] <miguel> My Neme Is Miguel
[12:22] <miguel> I Living Santo domingo
[12:22] <Seveas> miguel, #ubuntu-es for spanish
[12:22] <Snoblower> tristanmike, 40GB i think, i'm not sure, i'm pretty new to the whole computer thing :)
[12:22] <miguel> yes
[12:22] <concept10> Jan_: you still here?
[12:22] <MrLaminar> crimsun, here's the paste: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2523
[12:22] <Darth> hi all
[12:22] <barongas> khermans: Hmmm it can't find io.h during the gcc part
[12:23] <miguel> seveas de donde eres
[12:23] <chavo> Hello miguel ,
[12:23] <miguel> hablas espao
[12:23] <miguel> hello chavo
[12:23] <chavo> vivo en Florida
[12:23] <tristanmike> Snoblower, I gotta go in a minute, but I suggest you start from scratch, installing XP first, just more learning for you, and select the size of the partiton you want XP to be during it's installer
[12:23] <[LethAL] > !es
[12:23] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:23] <miguel> How are roy
[12:23] <boxerboy29> the updates from colony4-5 is in our updates no?
[12:23] <miguel> you
[12:23] <Darth> Is anybody an experienced Ubuntu user when it comes to running it on an Apple IBook?
[12:23] <AR_Media> Hello, I just tried to su - and it gave me this error, setgid: Operation no permitted.  ummm, what?
[12:23] <crimsun> MrLaminar: what happens if you mute 'Headphone'?
[12:23] <Seveas> AR_Media, sudo
[12:23] <[LethAL] > !tell AR_Media about root
[12:23] <tristanmike> Snoblower, maybe like 10 gigs
[12:23] <boxerboy29> ar_media try sudo
[12:23] <AR_Media> I tried sudo
[12:23] <linuxmonkey> crimsun,  yes i have
[12:24] <bzimage> AR_Media, sudo <command to execute as root>
[12:24] <MrLaminar> crimsun, nothing. still no sound
[12:24] <Darth> Is anybody an experienced Ubuntu user when it comes to running it on an Apple IBook?
[12:24] <robin> I had a really hard time getting w32codec installed, found a debian repository that had it and it worked great, thanks to those who tried to help
[12:24] <AR_Media> it says....   sudo: must be setuid root
[12:24] <Seveas> AR_Media, then you messed something up badly
[12:24] <tudor> crimsun: you have any idea how to change permissions on automountable drives?
[12:24] <Rich43> You still going on about sudo
[12:24] <Rich43> Joking
[12:24] <khermans> barongas, instead try this one
[12:24] <AR_Media> I didn't touch anything
[12:24] <khermans> http://mange.dynalias.org/linux/bin2iso/bin2iso.c
[12:24] <Rich43> its the most basic command!
[12:25] <crimsun> tudor: do you mean files and directories on mounted partitions?
[12:25] <[LethAL] > Rich43, Get out... you know nothing about Ubuntu
[12:25] <Seveas> AR_Media, ls -al $(which sudo)
[12:25] <Snoblower> tristanmike, thanks
[12:25] <Seveas> put the output in a private chat
[12:25] <Darth> Can anybody help me?
[12:25] <AR_Media> which sudo?
[12:25] <tristanmike> Snoblower, or 15 GB, if you have 15GB make linux 10 GB and have a 15 GB FAT drive to move files back and forth
[12:25] <[LethAL] > Rich43, you haven't even used it
[12:25] <bzimage> Darth, shoot
[12:25] <bzimage> :)
[12:25] <linuxmonkey> crimsun, both those packages are installed
[12:25] <tudor> crimsun: I mean when it automounts my usb-key it should do it in rw mode
[12:26] <MrLaminar> crimsun, still no sound...
[12:26] <Snoblower> tristanmike, any idea where i can get info about reinstalling windows xp, i tried earlier and screwed a lot of stuff up :(
[12:26] <Darth> bzimage: im trying to detect the wifi card I have in my Ibook but for some reason Ubuntu is not picking it up, Im using the LiveCD right now....
[12:26] <crimsun> MrLaminar: in a Terminal: sudo invoke-rc.d alsa force-unload && sudo rm /var/lib/alsa/asound.state && sudo modprobe snd-cs46xx
[12:26] <tristanmike> Snoblower, that's how I did it, but it took me a few installs of XP and Ubuntu before I got it just right
[12:26] <crimsun> MrLaminar: then use the Volume Control or alsamixer to unmute Master and PCM
[12:26] <tristanmike> Snoblower, what did it screw up?
[12:26] <moparfan90> hello. does anyone know a irc channel for linux games?
[12:26] <crimsun> linuxmonkey: is it necessary to pass the path of the kernel headers to configure or make?
[12:27] <[LethAL] > moparfan90, playing Windows games on Linux or actual Linux games?
[12:27] <MrLaminar> crimsun, master and pcm are unmuted. trying out your command right now...
[12:27] <Darth> any ideas bzimage?
[12:27] <moparfan90> both
[12:27] <Snoblower> tristanmike, i chose boot from cd, then deleted everything off HD (I think) then it told me to insert OS "blue" disc, so i did, but it kept ejecting it as though it was the wrong disc
[12:27] <[LethAL] > moparfan90, /list
[12:27] <[LethAL] > ;)
[12:27] <Snoblower> tristanmike, the discs that i was given were burnt, so that might have something to do with it, i dunno
[12:27] <tristanmike> OS "blue" ? do you have a Dell or something?
[12:27] <Snoblower> gateway
[12:28] <Snoblower> i got it real cheap =D
[12:28] <DavidLeeRoth> i have a gateway 7510GX
[12:28] <tristanmike> Snoblower, did XP come with it?
[12:28] <butcherbird> I would be interested to know if anyone is using a webcam that hoary/breezy automatically detected.  Checked wiki but so far not much on individual models
[12:28] <MrLaminar> crimsun, here's the output: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2524
[12:28] <barongas> khermans: Got it compiled nicely now. Just waiting to see wether it works or not
[12:28] <Snoblower> tristanmike, xp was the original OS
[12:28] <bzimage> butcherbird, yes i have
[12:28] <khermans> barongas, it works :-)
[12:28] <butcherbird> bzimage, know what model offhand?
[12:28] <tovella> does anyone know why does ubuntu seem to allow the first user to hijack ownership of all the subsequently created user directories?  how can I stop this from occurring?
[12:28] <khermans> barongas, let me know though
[12:28] <tristanmike> Snoblower, yes, but did your computer come with it preinstalled, or did you buy it, do you have the OS disks for your machine?
[12:28] <barongas> khermans, correction: Wether my file is a real bin or whatever it is :)
[12:28] <tudor> butcherbird: the philips toUcam pro works
[12:29] <linuxmonkey> crimsun, im not sure in the make file there is KVER := $(shell uname -r)    KSRC := /lib/modules/$(KVER)/build    but there is no build folder there
[12:29] <crimsun> MrLaminar: then you need to log out of GNOME, log in via a console, and run that command
[12:29] <tristanmike> Snoblower, or do you have a "real" copy of XP?
[12:29] <Snoblower> tristanmike, xp was on the computer when i got it, i have some discs that the guy who sold it to gave me, but like i said, they're burned
[12:29] <khermans> barongas, you coud always just open it up in a hex editor to see what format it is in
[12:29] <bzimage> butcherbird, not exactly... it's a philips pcvc 7something
[12:29] <[LethAL] > lmao... "real"
[12:29] <crimsun> linuxmonkey: there will be a build/ dir if you have linux-headers-$(uname -r) installed
[12:29] <ChrisTucker> when i try to get w32 codecs with multiverse, it gives this error: Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package. How do i correct this?
[12:30] <butcherbird> ok thx guys.  Off to newegg =)
[12:30] <tristanmike> Snoblower, do you have an XP disc?
[12:30] <khermans> barongas, something like hexdump -C myfile.bin from cli, or use ghex2 to open it up in a GUI
[12:30] <noodlegraphy> Hello - Short Question - Forums is down right now or I'd look it up -  Have 2k installed, going to install ubuntu on another partition from instal disk, Install disk says it will delete everthing...Assuming this isn't exactly true yes? - can install ubuntu on dif partition without hurting 2k partion - Or is there a trick to be aware of?
[12:30] <Snoblower> tristanmike, i believe so, yes
[12:30] <tristanmike> Snoblower, and it's burned?
[12:30] <crimsun> ChrisTucker: w32codecs is not in multiverse for Breezy; it's in debian-marillat
[12:30] <silasj> hey, I [apt-get distupgrade]  and now I can't start X!!!
[12:30] <tovella> ChrisTucker: i think i got w32codecs from backports
[12:30] <Necrosan_> can i go direct to breezy from a brand new 5.04 install
[12:30] <Necrosan_> ?
[12:30] <barongas> khermans Cool. I'll experiment some with that. I've always been hexadecimally challenged but I'd like to try it on :)
[12:30] <tristanmike> tovella, they are gone from the Backports now
[12:31] <tovella> tristanmike: k
[12:31] <Darth> anybody runs Ubuntu on an Ibook?
[12:31] <bzimage> Chris_Tucker, it's in none official repos... due to legal issues...
[12:31] <khermans> hex is like sex
[12:31] <silasj> any xorgconfig ? I can't locate...
[12:31] <Snoblower> tristanmike, yes, it's burned
[12:31] <durt> Chris Tucker, or you can get it from here: http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages
[12:31] <linuxmonkey> crimsun, i had installed it using the add/remove programs in ubuntu, should i try re-installing or is there a better way of installing
[12:31] <goo> . o 0 ( http://mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html )
[12:31] <ChrisTucker> crimsun: tovella, bzimage, it appears its in backports then
[12:31] <tudor> butcherbird: pwc driver sources are in breezy for sure, it's easy to compile. I did it and the webcam works just fine.
[12:31] <barongas> khermans iso2bin worked like a dream :)
[12:32] <Snoblower> tristanmike, i actually have 3 discs, OS disc, applications, and drivers
[12:32] <khermans> barongas, yeah i know :-)
[12:32] <DavidLeeRoth> There are a lot of celebrities in here tonight! Chris Tucker, David Lee Roth, wow!
[12:32] <tristanmike> Chris_Tucker, http://giannaros.org/tor/bt/ here is the w32codecs
[12:32] <ChrisTucker> lol
[12:32] <bzimage> ChrisTucker, no, there not in the backports or the official repositories of ubuntu..
[12:32] <crimsun> linuxmonkey: what did you install, linux-headers-$(uname -r)?
[12:32] <tristanmike> Snowblower, and they are burned discs or factory?
[12:32] <infoB> hello. HELP needed
[12:32] <[LethAL] > !helpme
[12:32] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[12:33] <noodlegraphy> Hello - Short Question - Forums is down right now or I'd look it up -  Have 2k installed, going to install ubuntu on another partition from instal disk, Install disk says it will delete everthing...Assuming this isn't exactly true yes? - can install ubuntu on dif partition without hurting 2k partion - Or is there a trick to be aware of?
[12:33] <linuxmonkey> i had the uname output so i went in and installed the one that matched
[12:33] <DavidLeeRoth> yeah, are we supposed to gather your problem via osmosis?
[12:33] <infoB> i want to install driver for graphics card
[12:33] <Snoblower> tristanmike, they're burned
[12:33] <DavidLeeRoth> Make/Model infob?
[12:33] <[LethAL] > infoB, I know about nvidia cards, but not about ATi
[12:33] <infoB> sis 650
[12:33] <unkn0wn2u> hey I can't get alsa to work as a normal non root user and when gnome starts it says something about hal failing
[12:33] <linuxmonkey> crimsun, wich would be linux-headers-2.6.10-5
[12:34] <DavidLeeRoth> you could use a generic driver
[12:34] <ChrisTucker> bzimage well i only have official repos, and this error came from that
[12:34] <DavidLeeRoth> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
[12:34] <supergrover> noodle: you should be fine. Just be careful to choose the right options with partitioning etc
[12:34] <ChrisTucker> eeeewwwww torrents
[12:34] <ChrisTucker> eeeeeeeewwwww 13mb!
[12:34] <MrLaminar> hey crimsun, i logged out and ran the commands and it worked :) !!!
[12:34] <DavidLeeRoth> im torrenting right now
[12:34] <tristanmike> Snoblower, ok, I'm not familiar with manufacture disks like that, I've always used a Windows only CD, but it is ejecting itself?
[12:34] <infoB> found sis_drv.0 on manufacteror's site
[12:34] <MrLaminar> how do i make it permanent now?
[12:34] <[LethAL] > So am I
[12:34] <linuxmonkey> crimsun, oh i reinstalled it and it worked
[12:35] <crimsun> heh
[12:35] <infoB> [LethAL] , don;t know how to use modprobe
[12:35] <Snoblower> tristanmike, yea, it keeps saying "Insert OS blue disc" and i do that, then it must think it's the wrong disc and it ejects
[12:35] <linuxmonkey> crimsun,  thank you very much man you are a life saver
[12:35] <noodlegraphy> Supergrover - kewl... I've got 7 partitions now...last one being 15 gig for ubuntu, and others fat32 so it can read/write to them...  Thanks
[12:35] <tristanmike> Snoblower, have you tried the other disks?
[12:36] <linuxmonkey> thanx [LethAL]  too
[12:36] <Snoblower> tristanmike, yup
[12:36] <MrLaminar> crimsun, how can i make this change permanent?
[12:36] <ChrisTucker> ok, where is/do i get, the torrent app in ubuntu?
[12:36] <durt> gnome-bittorrent
[12:36] <supergrover> noodlegraphy: noworries have fun
[12:36] <StarterX> Hi, i am new on linux ,and i would like to install my printer (brother MFC 210c)  i have seen that brother released a driver for debian (similar to ubuntu i think)     but i dont know how to install a .deb  file ..any help ?
[12:37] <[LethAL] > No probalem linuxmonkey
[12:37] <Seveas> StarterX, sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[12:37] <tristanmike> Snoblower, hmm, is there anyway you can get your hands on a copy of Windows?
[12:37] <StarterX> Seveas,  is it possible that it wont work as long as i
[12:37] <StarterX> ,m
[12:37] <StarterX> live cd
[12:37] <noodlegraphy> Supergrover - Rodger that - be time to start reading up the forums once there back online...  l8ter all
[12:38] <tristanmike> Snoblower, I have never seen an installation using disks like that, I'm sorry, so getting them to work is beyond me.
[12:38] <Snoblower> tristanmike, i dunno... but i'm pretty sure i have windows xp on the burned disc, i think i'm probably doing something wrong...
[12:38] <ChrisTucker> E: Couldn't find package gnome-bittorrent
[12:38] <silasj> running X now, thx!
[12:38] <joetheodd> How do I install a .deb file?
[12:38] <Seveas> StarterX, yes
[12:38] <ChrisTucker> durt: E: Couldn't find package gnome-bittorrent
[12:38] <StarterX> ?hm,ok
[12:38] <StarterX> thx
[12:38] <tristanmike> Snoblower, if you changed the BIOS to boot from disk then there isn't anything else I would imagine you could do wrong
[12:38] <unkn0wn2u> dpkg -i debfile
[12:38] <durt> gnome-bittorrent should already be installed christucker, run it in a terminal
[12:38] <[LethAL] > ubotu, installdeb is open a terminal, cd into the folder with the deb package in it and type sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[12:38] <ubotu> okay, [LethAL] 
[12:38] <erUSUL> ChrisTucker: it is already instaled by default
[12:39] <tristanmike> Snoblower, sorry Ihave to go, good luck
[12:39] <Snoblower> k, thanks
[12:39] <[LethAL] > That'll save us some typing
[12:39] <ChrisTucker> bash: gnome-bittorrent: command not found
[12:39] <joetheodd> !sunjava
[12:39] <ubotu> For Sun-Java debs add this line to your /etc/apt/sources.list (for hoary) deb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ hoary java  ; or go to seveas.ubuntulinux.nl (for Breezy)
[12:39] <[LethAL] > Chris_Tucker, gnome-btdownload
[12:39] <ChrisTucker> durt: erUSUL bash: gnome-bittorrent: command not found
[12:40] <joetheodd> How do I install Sun's JRE on Warty?
[12:40] <crimsun> unkn0wn2u: please elaborate
[12:40] <ChrisTucker> thanks [LethAL] 
[12:40] <WebLOCH> what!
[12:40] <WebLOCH> Java has been added to repos!?
[12:40] <concept10> I just updated to breezy and cant startx I get this: no screens found ... Suggestions?
[12:40] <durt> oops, sorry christucker
[12:40] <badgirl1> alalallalallalalla
[12:40] <[LethAL] > joetheodd, I think it involves apt-get dist-upgrade :P
[12:40] <erUSUL> ChrisTucker: gnome-btdownload, Open nautilus and right click in the torrent
[12:40] <badgirl1> aallallalallalallalallalallalallalallalallalallalallallaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[12:40] <satafterh> when is 5.10 due out??
[12:40] <joetheodd> [LethAL] : Aw, please hug a 56ker =p
[12:40] <[LethAL] > October 13th
[12:41] <ChrisTucker> nautilus? no way, firefox :P
[12:41] <[LethAL] > joetheodd, shipit.ubuntu.com
[12:41] <badgirl1> lala;ldkl;ajiodioahuiofhauhuofioahiogishoihisdjifjiosjdijnvoidhfosihhioghiotoyiosjfofohaiohfsuidahofhgioshohgoiahgiohsuhgosihofuhsohfuoshaohdfouhgoshohgauohgsodihgiosdhgohsgdoshgdhogdiodguohgouhfoshosiohdifhgusdohauaoihsuhoaohfoahofsihghusaohfoauhfaosuhoofahfuoah
[12:41] <WebLOCH> Chris_Tucker, Firefox is decaying, try Opera
[12:41] <[LethAL] > Seveas, WAKE UP
[12:41] <jbroome> i get that a lot
[12:41] <unkn0wn2u> crimsun, ok i go to gnome-volume-control and all i see is oss as non first user but my first user i created can select alsa
[12:41] <joetheodd> [LethAL] : Please hug a 56ker in a hurry =p
[12:41] <byen> i agree...opera is he way to go
[12:41] <durt> opera - yes
[12:41] <[LethAL] > joetheodd, hehe...ok
[12:41] <badgirl1> aoihfoaihoiahfoihfaiooifhaogfoafoaogfohafoifhififuhfaohfaogfogaogfohauohfouahuhofauhoauhohofuauhofhouafhoufahohaohoafofoaiofaaiofsioasiofaiofaohfhagfaoifaufoaifioaohfiaohfoianfaiohfioahufaoiahohfaoihfiahoiahfiohfaiosfiofasioufosufoddoidhsosusodiahufasohfsuhfuodsoaosfouhdodishsiofhusoshfudaoif ishhudhaod hushoaf suhsoihsfufouifsauosfuosohauofsfuouhffuoiodufouhsufdoauhofaouhfasouhfuodaouoosufsod
[12:41] <Seveas> sorry
[12:42] <[LethAL] > joetheodd, JRE is 20MB though...
[12:42] <durt> suck me dry badgirl1
[12:42] <joetheodd> [LethAL] : So basically I'm screwed until I download 200MB of stuff?
[12:42] <ChrisTucker> WebLOCH: NEVEEEEER! firefox will suffice, i have used opera in the past
[12:42] <boxerboy29> was that a person or a bot?
[12:42] <Seveas> durt, language...
[12:42] <satafterh> when 5.10 comes out will we be able just to upgrade so we dont have to reconfigure things ling video and tv out, it was alot of work lol
[12:42] <[LethAL] > joetheodd, java.com
[12:42] <erUSUL> ChrisTucker: you save the torrent in the hard-disc and then rightclick in it
[12:42] <spermite> anyone in here have a debian install?
[12:42] <Seveas> spermite, try #debian
[12:42] <WebLOCH> Chris_Tucker, Yeah I used to love Firefox, but it's just going downhill, it seems to be getting worse by the week, a bit like Azureus, thats getting awful now too
[12:42] <durt> opera is free now christucker - no ad bar
[12:42] <Seveas> satafterh, you can even upgrade now
[12:42] <[LethAL] > spermite, although be warned the atmosphere may not be as nice
[12:42] <unkn0wn2u> anyone know of a mplayerplug-in that has the buttons and stuff on it
[12:42] <Seveas> durt, free but still bad :)
[12:43] <WebLOCH> Seveas, you think firefox is better than opera?
[12:43] <crimsun> unkn0wn2u: that's pretty simple. The second user has to be added to the groups that the first user's in
[12:43] <Seveas> unkn0wn2u, the one in breezy has that
[12:43] <durt> better than firefox
[12:43] <Seveas> WebLOCH, yes
[12:43] <crimsun> unkn0wn2u: for instance, audio, video, ...
[12:43] <spermite> [LethAL]  turst me i know
[12:43] <durt> galeon is better than firefox too
[12:43] <WebLOCH> Seveas, but its slow and buggy
[12:43] <Seveas> operas css support is worse than IE
[12:43] <WebLOCH> durt, havent tried galeon
[12:43] <MrLaminar> crimsun, how can i make the change you proposed permanent?
[12:43] <Seveas> anyway - off-topic, let's not start a war
[12:43] <boxerboy29> i like firefox better than opera but neither work the way i like:(
[12:43] <WebLOCH> Seveas, from my experience in the office (web design office) opera is much better than IE
[12:43] <durt> !start a browser war
[12:43] <ubotu> dillo  is way better than mozilla !
[12:44] <[LethAL] > Nooo... stop the browser wars
 all the bugs are not worked out are they??
[12:44] <Seveas> satafterh, correct
[12:44] <whyameye> Is there some sort of file manager which associates file extensions with applications?
[12:44] <concept10> I just updated to breezy and cant startx I get this: no screens found ... Suggestions?
[12:44] <durt> can dillo do flash and java stuff?
[12:44] <linuxmonkey> wow im starting to think this will never work
[12:44] <unkn0wn2u> crimsun, I have /dev/dsp all the way open but I wish there was a program that said alsa uses /dev/dsp /dev/mixer etc you know say what the devs are for
[12:44] <joetheodd> [LethAL] : Do I want RPM or Self Extracting?
[12:44] <Seveas> joe_alf, the latter
[12:44] <[LethAL] > joetheodd, self-Ex
[12:44] <Seveas> joetheodd*
[12:44] <Jan_> well, we got this laptop to hibernate.
[12:44] <WebLOCH> durt, me old sun, does Galeon support Mouse Gestures and Tabs ?
[12:44] <joetheodd> durt: lynx for the win, without a doubt.
[12:45] <joetheodd> [LethAL]  and Seveas, thanks.
[12:45] <durt> yes webloch
[12:45] <[LethAL] > No Problem
[12:45] <concept10> Seveas: any suggestions on how to fix xserver?
[12:45] <dabaR> You know what I need?I need a welcome screen for when I sign into gnome.
[12:45] <coarsesalt> first time here.. fourth ubuntu install in three weeks, this the place to get help?
[12:45] <Jan_> Getting it to RECOVER from hibernation is another matter.
[12:45] <moparfan90> how do you run a exucutabl in ubuntu? its a linux file? in console?
[12:45] <WebLOCH> durt, does it have plugins for flash etc ?
[12:45] <concept10> Jan_: did you have any problems with x after upgrade to breezy?
[12:45] <[LethAL] > moparfan90, is the icon a diamond-like shape?
[12:45] <dabaR> And glasses
[12:45] <durt> webloch, yeah its mozilla
[12:46] <boxerboy29> is there a java plug in for opera?
[12:46] <moparfan90> yeah
[12:46] <durt> joetheodd, yay for lynx ;P
[12:46] <dabaR> coarsesalt: with what?
[12:46] <Jan_> concept10: Not with X, but totem no longer works
[12:46] <Jan_> even as much as it ever did.
[12:46] <Jan_> So basically it's borked.
[12:46] <durt> boxerboy29 - yes
[12:46] <coarsesalt> I'm trying to figure out how to play .rnx files and the ubuntuforums seem to be down
[12:46] <Jan_> and it won't RECOVER from hibernation, just ENTER it. :(
[12:46] <[LethAL] > moparfan90, if double-clicking it doesn't work, open a terminal, cd to the directory and type ./file
[12:46] <moparfan90> o
[12:46] <[LethAL] > Jan_, Same here on my desktop
[12:46] <moparfan90> ok
[12:46] <boxerboy29> ok ty brb gonna look see if i cant get it
[12:46] <memei> How will I burn ubuntu.iso into a cd using cd-rw?
[12:47] <concept10> I cant get x to start, CLI only :(  it says it cant find any screens, I have a big ass 22inch monitor here
[12:47] <memei> I mean do I need to extract all those files?
[12:47] <[LethAL] > memei, right-click it in nautilus
[12:47] <[LethAL] > memei, Or are you on windows?
[12:47] <memei> yes
[12:47] <dabaR> coarsesalt: .rnx? Never heard of that, what is it?
[12:47] <joetheodd> [LethAL] : Is ther any way to install the RPM? I already have that downloaded.
[12:47] <memei> I'm in windows.
[12:47] <moparfan90> i got this:  ./racer: error while loading shared libraries: libfmod-3.61.so: cannot open shar ed object file: No such file or directory
[12:47] <moparfan90> 
[12:47] <Noah0504> I'm speaking to everyone from my nice, new, fresh install of Ubuntu.  My first step in making the Linux switch!
[12:47] <Jan_> How do I fix Totem, now?
[12:47] <moparfan90> what so i so?
[12:47] <Jan_> It's on about something to do with gstreamer.
[12:47] <joetheodd> [LethAL] : Rather, I have the Sun Solutions disk.
[12:48] <[LethAL] > joetheodd, yes, but no idea what the command is
[12:48] <Jan_> Noah0504: I was in that position about two hours ago. It's downhill from here on.
[12:48] <coarsesalt> goes to real player, live audio feed with licensing on it
[12:48] <bimberi> Noah0504: OnYa! :)
[12:48] <concept10> dist-upgrade to breezy on sunday == failed experiment :)
[12:48] <[LethAL] > joetheodd, man alien might help
[12:49] <memei> I've alread ruined 2 cd's.
[12:49] <Jan_> rgh.
[12:49] <Snoblower> what's the command for me to get xfce 4?
[12:49] <concept10> Anyone know where Firefox sayves passwords?
[12:49] <Jan_> so doing a dist-upgrade broke Totem
[12:49] <memei> [LethAL] ?
[12:49] <linuxmonkey> can anyone tell me what the matter is, i get a bunch of warnings ... see it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2525
[12:49] <Jan_> Hibernate doesn't work.
[12:49] <[LethAL] > Snoblower, open Synaptic and search for it
[12:49] <Jan_> I don't see what else can go wrong
[12:49] <StarterX> jan- it CANT be thaT Bad
[12:50] <crimsun> MrNaughty: sudo alsactl store
[12:50] <[LethAL] > memei, google for CDBurnerXP
[12:50] <oggah> how do I get wdm as my default loginmanager? (instead of xdm)
[12:50] <memei> k
[12:50] <Jan_> StarterX: It'll hibernate, but not recover. Any clues?
[12:50] <concept10> exit
[12:50] <shekhar> can someone help me with a booting problem in hoary?
[12:50] <StarterX> well, never used hibernate..so
[12:50] <StarterX> :\
[12:50] <[LethAL] > shekhar, go on?
[12:51] <coarsesalt> dadaR: it's part of the sign in from http://account.real.com
[12:51] <bimberi> shekhar: just describe the problem and if someone knows they'll try to help
[12:51] <whyameye> if I want the file manager to automatically choose the app to use based on the extension of the file, what would I call from the command line?
[12:52] <[LethAL] > whyameye, right click the file and choose open with
[12:52] <shekhar> [LethAL] , bimberi, my ubuntu starts up fine, but spends about 5 minutes on 'metacity window manager' when starting gnome
[12:52] <AdmiralCrunch> Is anyone else on Breezy having trouble with the latest ATI drivers?
[12:52] <[LethAL] > shekhar, How fast is your CPU?
[12:52] <Janix> hihi all
[12:52] <oggah> how do I get wdm as my default loginmanager? (instead of xdm)..
[12:52] <shekhar> [LethAL] , bimberi, this is a brand new machine, 2.15 ghz
[12:53] <HrdwrBoB> er
[12:53] <HrdwrBoB> gdm is the default
[12:53] <Janix> oh crap, it's the same channel"!
[12:53] <whyameye> [LethAL] : the problem is I need to tell OpenOffice what to execute when it doesn't understand the extension. I want to tell it to execute ubuntu's file manager, which already has associations with file extensions. But calling nautilus doesn't work.
[12:53] <oggah> HrdwrBoB, yep.
[12:53] <[LethAL] > whyameye, I dunno
[12:53] <Quinthius> whyameye: you can set which app to open it with permanently by right clicking the file, go to properties, then in the "open with" tab you can set the default, and alternatives to show up
[12:53] <oggah> HrdwrBoB, ops, sry. nope. xdm is default now.
[12:53] <HrdwrBoB> whyameye: gnome-open
[12:53] <selinium> Hi guys I install winetools from a walktrough in the forum, the forum is down at the mo. Apt and dpkg are unaware of the install. How do i get rid of it?
[12:54] <joetheodd> I found out what I was doing wrong now. How do I add /usr/java/jre1.5.0_03/bin to the path to look for when you specify an executable?
[12:54] <HrdwrBoB> oggah: only if you installed it
[12:54] <HrdwrBoB> oggah: uninstall xdm
[12:54] <jpoe> hm, anyone remember the name of the desktop app that preloads parts of openoffice to make it open on the fly faster .. ?
[12:54] <oggah> got both xdm and wdm installed. and xdm is default.
[12:54] <marska> Hello.. I'd like to install XFCE in place of Gnome and was wondering how I may successfully do this?
[12:54] <[LethAL] > jpoe, apt-cache search openoffice start
[12:54] <Noah0504> Is it just me, or are the forums down?
[12:54] <Quinthius> Noah0504: yes
[12:54] <Seveas> it's just your imagination ;(
[12:54] <Seveas> ;)
[12:54] <Noah0504> Just checking ;)
[12:54] <HrdwrBoB> ooqstart-gnome - OpenOffice.org QuickStarter applet for GNOME 2
[12:54] <Kimahri> Seveas: has my mute been lifted?
[12:55] <joetheodd> marska: sudo apt-get install xfce
[12:55] <dabaR> Kimahri: no
[12:55] <HrdwrBoB> Kimahri: I would say so
[12:55] <linuxmonkey> anyone tell me why im getting insmod: error inserting '8180_26_private.ko': -1 Invalid module format
[12:55] <jpoe> [LethAL] :  Did, maybe its just not in the breezy repos yet?
[12:55] <marska> joetheodd: Will my programs and setting still be intact?
[12:55] <bimberi> shekhar: i'm not sure what could cause that sorry
[12:55] <zone17> Hi, I just tryied upgrading to 5.10 using breezy and apt-get dist-upgrade, everything broke.. now almost all software is removed, in my case it's better to do a clean install right?
[12:55] <HrdwrBoB> jpoe: could be
[12:55] <Kimahri> i'm not seeing it in the ban list... i was +b not +q
[12:55] <joetheodd> Kimahri: Looks like it.
[12:55] <WebLOCH> Is it possible to remove Evolution without everything else getting screwed?
[12:55] <whyameye> HrdwrBoB: Thank you! gnome-open does the trick!
[12:55] <dabaR> zone17: you ahve no idea how3 glad I am to hear that.
[12:55] <HrdwrBoB> whyameye: :) no worries
[12:55] <Jan_> zone17 exactly the same just happened to us
[12:55] <butcherbird> marska, just apt-get install xfce. when you login at bootup there is a 'sessions' button click it and xfce should be an option
[12:55] <dabaR> zone17: use console now till 5.10
[12:55] <Tidus> .
[12:55] <selinium> jpoe: gnome or kde?
[12:55] <HrdwrBoB> WebLOCH: yes
[12:55] <joetheodd> marska: They should be. When you get to the login screen, click session and change to XFce.
[12:55] <Tidus> .
[12:56] <Tidus> looks like it
[12:56] <jpoe> gnome
[12:56] <HrdwrBoB> zone17: erm, what did you do?
[12:56] <joetheodd> marska: I'm no expert, though.
[12:56] <WebLOCH> HrdwrBoB, last time I tried it messed up some other mozilla apps
[12:56] <HrdwrBoB> zone17: depends on how much user data you have
[12:56] <[LethAL] > jpoe, it's in breezy's repos
[12:56] <dabaR> zone17: backports?
[12:56] <StarterX> Why when i want to uninstall an app that was with the original install of ubuntu , it ask me to remove ,ubuntu desktop
[12:56] <[LethAL] > jpoe, universe
[12:56] <StarterX> ,too
[12:56] <StarterX> 
[12:56] <Jan_> GUYS! We just had exactly the same problem
[12:56] <StarterX> ?
[12:56] <zone17> I changed the sources.list, not using backports, did apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:56] <[LethAL] > StarterX, ubuntu-desktop doens't do anything
[12:56] <WebLOCH> Does anyone know if ubuntu will ever come as a barebones system?
[12:56] <joetheodd> [LethAL] : How do I add /usr/java/jre1.5.0_03/bin to my path?
[12:56] <selinium> HrdwrBoB, Was right, ooqstart
[12:56] <Quinthius> StarterX: because "ubuntu-desktop" is the meta package that pulls in many other apps, it helps to keep upgrades in order and stuff
[12:56] <dabaR> zone17: and whats so broken?
[12:56] <[LethAL] > joetheodd, no idea
[12:56] <bimberi> WebLOCH: it has a 'server install' option...
[12:56] <[LethAL] > joetheodd, man path?
[12:57] <StarterX> ahhh okay :
[12:57] <coarsesalt> WebLOCH: i've been telling the 'server install' is a barebones...
[12:57] <WebLOCH> binberi, what does that install by default ?
[12:57] <zone17> I get lots of errors..
[12:57] <coarsesalt> is it not?
[12:57] <shekhar> [LethAL] , any idea what could be the problem? why does the window manager stick at bootup?
[12:57] <WebLOCH> Ahh awesome, so I can just install what I want ?
[12:57] <joetheodd> Does anyone know how to add /usr/java/jre1.5.0_03/bin to the path searched for executables?
[12:57] <StarterX> 0 so i can screw evolution and things whitout loosing X, thats a plus :)
[12:57] <Kimahri> [LethAL] : which WM is it that's hanging?
[12:57] <tovella> does anyone know why ubuntu seems to allow the first user to hijack ownership of all the subsequently created user directories?  how can I stop this from occurring?
[12:57] <[LethAL] > Kimahri, shekhar's Metacity
[12:57] <joetheodd> [LethAL] : I'm trying to make it so that java (which is in there) is found when I type, say, java Main, from outside that folder
[12:57] <zone17> locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE
[12:57] <dabaR> zone17: good, I know how ot fix the *lots* of errors error.
[12:57] <marska> !mp3
[12:57] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[12:57] <[LethAL] > joetheodd, I know, just not how to
[12:58] <dabaR> zone17: does it boot?
[12:58] <dabaR> zone17: are y ou in there now?
[12:58] <joetheodd> [LethAL]  ok
[12:58] <zone17> and a LOT of other dabaR the list is to long, sorry, I know normally a copy/paste
[12:58] <jpoe> [LethAL] : Odd, not seeing it .. have universe/multiverse turn on too ..
[12:58] <dabaR> zone17: use teh pastebin.
[12:58] <Quinthius> StarterX: yes, i would recommend installing ubuntu-desktop again periodically (which as a side-effect will pull in evolution again) to make sure you have proper packages installed and stuff
[12:58] <zone17> dabaR, yes I made it "go back" to hoary
[12:58] <bimberi> WebLOCH: as i understand it, it will install the dependencies of the ubuntu-base package
[12:58] <Kimahri> hm.... dunno bout metacity, but i know fluxbox hangs up due to xdb or something for a while, then it'll start
[12:58] <dabaR> zone17: hah, mind writing out a doc on something like that?
[12:59] <tod_kon> I need help getting my root access back
[12:59] <boxerboy29> do i need to install java to an opera file?
[12:59] <Seveas> StarterX, or create a dumy evolution with equivs
[12:59] <WebLOCH> bimberi, does that include GNOME and X ?
[12:59] <bimberi> WebLOCH: no
[12:59] <[LethAL] > jpoe, update/reload?
[12:59] <tod_kon> I chmodded /usr/ -R
[12:59] <WebLOCH> bimberi, apt-get ?
[12:59] <tod_kon> And I have no more access :(
[12:59] <jpoe> yeah, nadda
[12:59] <zone17> dabaR :-), old time debian user, but I still lack all major software, I can't do an upgrade again
[12:59] <jpoe> weird
[12:59] <Seveas> tod_kon, reinstall
[12:59] <whyameye> joetheodd: does this help? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/history/356668
[12:59] <bimberi> WebLOCH: yes
[12:59] <Seveas> this is not solvable
[12:59] <tod_kon> Wait, maybe I did chown /usr/ -R
[12:59] <dabaR> oh...k.
[12:59] <Seveas> even then a reinstall is simpler
[12:59] <tod_kon> Seveas: Are you... serious?
[12:59] <satafterh> do we need a fireee wall and/or virus software with linux?
[12:59] <Seveas> yes
[12:59] <shekhar> Kimahri, can you help? my ubuntu starts up fine, but sticks on metacity for about 5 minutes before gnome starts
[12:59] <Noah0504> Will amaroK work with Gnome?
[01:00] <linuxmonkey> anyone here got a DLINK DWL-610 wifi card and got it to work in linux?
[01:00] <WebLOCH> bibis X and Gnome available over apt-gets
[01:00] <zone17> but ok, as long as other people are having similar problems
[01:00] <tod_kon> What the hell... Screw that... I am not using Ubuntu then if that's what it takes
[01:00] <Kimahri> shekhar: it could be the same thing that's been plauging fluxbox for quite a while.
[01:00] <Seveas> satafterh, depends on how you use linux
[01:00] <Seveas> tod_kon, it's your own stupid mistake
[01:00] <[LethAL] > tod_kon, you did it...
[01:00] <Seveas> don't blame it on Ubuntu
[01:00] <[LethAL] > !lart tod_kon
[01:00] <shekhar> Kimahri, does it have anything to do with saved sessions? how do i clear my saved sessions?
[01:00] <tod_kon> Seveas: Not really, I did that on purpose for I don't care about security on this partition
[01:00] <zone17> gonna do a clean install here, and NEVER use backports again :-), I am almost sure they have caused the problem due to some long forgotten backport install
[01:01] <bimberi> WebLOCH: yes you can install them via apt-get
[01:01] <Kimahri> shekhar: does it do this with every user, or just yours
[01:01] <Seveas> tod_kon, even then it's your own stupid mistake
[01:01] <satafterh>  <Seveas> what do you mean??
[01:01] <WebLOCH> bimberi, so it should be fairly painless?
[01:01] <tod_kon> Meh whatever
[01:01] <tod_kon> Worst distro EVER
[01:01] <Seveas> lol
[01:01] <[LethAL] > :(
[01:01] <Quinthius> heh what an idiot
[01:01] <bimberi> WebLOCH: well yes, but what is your situation?
[01:01] <[LethAL] > I'm off now anyway
[01:01] <[LethAL] > Cya guys
[01:01] <Kimahri> ubuntu's not the worst distro ever.... it's actually pretty good
[01:01] <Quinthius> i dont see how any other distro would help him any better...
[01:01] <Seveas> you don't often see them that stupid :)
[01:02] <linuxmonkey> im going crazy, ubuntu see's my wifi card as a D-Link DWL-510 but still it wont work
[01:02] <bimberi> Seveas: :)
[01:02] <Kimahri> chmod -R /usr/ ?
[01:02] <Seveas> must be the biggest idiot in weeks :)
[01:02] <WebLOCH>  bimberi hoary installs loads of stuff with it, a lot of which i dont want, some of which I do, I would rather start with nothing and build up from there
[01:02] <shekhar> Kimahri, i only have one user, haven't tried with another... can i kill my saved sessions somehow and try?
[01:02] <HrdwrBoB> WebLOCH: so do a server nstall
[01:02] <HrdwrBoB> install
[01:02] <bimberi> WebLOCH: then doing a server install and installing what you want with apt-get is the way to go :)
[01:02] <WebLOCH> HrdwrBoB, im new, i didnt realise it would do that
[01:02] <Kimahri> shekhar: you could, but i dunno how to kill them
[01:02] <Kimahri> shekhar: try it with another user first.
[01:03] <dabaR> linuxmonkey: maybe its a she...
[01:03] <linner> ok ya'll..
[01:03] <boxerboy29> seveas i dont know im getting up there with him in the stupidity contest :(
[01:03] <linner> I'm outta here... thank you so much for your help!  Everyone......................
[01:03] <linuxmonkey> dabaR,  lol yeah
[01:03] <shekhar> can someone also help me with evolution...
[01:03] <coarsesalt> football game... slowly ending... no audio to listen... last request before i give up and start working .RNX files anyone?
[01:03] <whyameye> When ubuntu needs a critical update, I get a red circle in the task panel. If I didn't have a gui running, is there a way to know still if ubuntu needs a critical update?
[01:03] <dabaR> what is it?
[01:03] <Seveas> boxerboy29, neh, not likely
[01:03] <Kimahri> shekhar: make another user and try it, and if it works right, then it's probably an issue with your saved session
[01:03] <Seveas> whatever it is, you probably didn't fuck up your system on purpose
[01:04] <boxerboy29> nope
[01:04] <boxerboy29> not yet
[01:04] <boxerboy29> lol
[01:04] <linuxmonkey> i really need to get this working before i can continue, i got a few laptops with these card and cant afford to buy new ones atm
[01:04] <Seveas> then what's the prob?
[01:04] <flodine> can someone help me get back in gnome i got a xession error on breezy
[01:04] <boxerboy29> java for firefox and java for opera are they the same java and only need to download once?
[01:04] <WebLOCH> bimberi, last question, what is the package name for X
[01:04] <WebLOCH> ?
[01:04] <dabaR> coarsesalt: whats a .rnx file?
[01:05] <HrdwrBoB> whyameye: run apt-get upgrade
[01:05] <coarsesalt> dadaR: it's a sign in file from real.com
[01:05] <flodine> someone plese help
[01:05] <coarsesalt> it's for streaming audio
[01:05] <bimberi> WebLOCH: xserver-xorg
[01:05] <WebLOCH> ty
[01:05] <bimberi> yw :
[01:05] <bimberi> :)
[01:05] <dabaR> coarsesalt: what are you doing with that?
[01:05] <whyameye> HrdwrBoB, so if I had a server install and I just ran apt-get upgrade periodically, then no worries, basically?
[01:05] <Seveas> boxerboy29, I think so, don't know about opera
[01:06] <HrdwrBoB> whyameye: you'll also need to run apt-get update before it
[01:06] <HrdwrBoB> but yes
[01:06] <linuxmonkey> does anyone know the easyest way to get my DWL-610 wifi card working (except buying new ones)
[01:06] <coarsesalt> dadaR: I'm trying to listen to a football game from nfl.com...
[01:06] <whyameye> HrdwrBoB: thanks! 2 for 2! :-)
[01:06] <boxerboy29> than that would mean i have to find a way to get it in opera too
[01:06] <flodine> i need help getting into my gnome
[01:06] <Kimahri> whyameye: apt-get update before upgrade
[01:06] <dabaR> well...did you try some realplayer download?
[01:06] <Seveas> boxerboy29, read the docs on opera.com :)
[01:06] <Quinthius> was w32codecs and sun-j2re1.5 ever added back to to the repositories?
[01:06] <Seveas> np
[01:06] <Seveas> no
[01:06] <boxerboy29> i was just reading them
[01:06] <Quinthius> are they gone for good?
[01:06] <_twitch_> tovella
[01:07] <coarsesalt> dadaR: yes... i have realplaer installed, it works for everything else...
[01:07] <_twitch_> recovery mode works perfectly
[01:07] <dabaR> Quinthius: no, someone is hosting bittorrents, and ther eis a site you can get them from.
[01:07] <Quinthius> dabaR: ahh ok
[01:07] <dabaR> Quinthius: thieves...
[01:07] <dabaR> haha
[01:07] <coarsesalt> dadaR: I'll figure it out for next week i suppose
[01:07] <Seveas> Quinthius, breezy?
[01:07] <dabaR> coarsesalt: ok, have a nice evening. hah.
[01:07] <Quinthius> Seveas: yah
[01:08] <coarsesalt> dadaR: lol. thanks muchly for that. I did the java install yesterday through SUN... pretty painless really
[01:08] <flodine> how do i fix my xession for gnome anyone please
[01:08] <vader1102> hahaha I now have Breezy installed and running on my desktop pc, it is quite awesome
[01:08] <santium> what is the apt-get package for all things required for compiling apps?
[01:08] <santium> ive installed gcc and make
[01:08] <_twitch_> tovella?
[01:08] <_jason> vader1102:  what would you say is the best addition in breeezy?
[01:08] <WebLOCH> durt, ty galeon is nice
[01:09] <bimberi> santium: build-essential
[01:09] <dabaR> coarsesalt: totally.
[01:09] <vader1102> no idea.... it ia good combo
[01:09] <dabaR> coarsesalt: dabar.
[01:09] <dabaR> its an exotic animal
[01:09] <coarsesalt> dabaR: no wonder i've been missing those...
[01:09] <dabaR> Ive been missing theem...
[01:09] <dabaR> :)
[01:10] <dabaR> Im in win32, defragging.
[01:10] <greg> what is the purpose of breezy-extras repos?
[01:10] <dabaR> greg there are those?
[01:11] <coarsesalt> I'm doing a review of 'ease of use" of ubuntu for our podcast next week... any other 'goto' websites I should use other than the ubuntu wiki and ubuntuguide?
[01:11] <Seveas> coarsesalt, don't use ubuntuguide
[01:11] <Seveas> ubuntuguide is crap
[01:11] <Seveas> !faq
[01:11] <ubotu> well, faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/
[01:11] <dabaR> ya, all these sites
[01:11] <Seveas> use that one from the docteam
[01:11] <shekhar> Seveas, i don't understand your dislike for ubuntuguide
[01:11] <Quinthius> hmm, it looks like mplayerhq.hu is the primary location of win32 codecs... are those the same as what was in the repo's?
[01:11] <coarsesalt> Seveas: me neither
[01:11] <shekhar> anyway ubuntuguide.org is down now
[01:11] <Seveas> !ubuntuguide
[01:11] <ubotu> I guess ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[01:12] <dabaR> wow
[01:12] <Seveas> there.
[01:12] <shekhar> ubuntuguide has been very helpful to many people
[01:12] <dabaR> Seveas: tat looks good. did Burgundavia work on that?
[01:12] <shekhar> actually http://ubuntuguide.org/ is back up again
[01:12] <Seveas> dabaR, the entire docteam did
[01:12] <Seveas> shekhar, ah too bad :(
[01:12] <dabaR> nice
[01:12] <dabaR> Its likely a valuable doc.
[01:13] <dabaR> And breezy? much diff from Hoary?
[01:13] <sudonim> anybody have success installing daapd?
[01:13] <B_166-ER-X> hm, What do i do to have the icons on my down (right)  workbar showing actually what program is open, instead of just greyish or blue squares ?   (talking about the desktop manager)
[01:13] <shekhar> Seveas, ubuntuguide cuts the crap and helps people customise their system, it's a good launchpad into the forums and wiki for newbies to linux
[01:13] <Seveas> B_166-ER-X, get programs that define icons ;)
[01:13] <Seveas> shekhar, ubuntuguide is crap and helps people breaking their systems
[01:13] <dabaR> shekhar: this room is better than that thing
[01:13] <coarsesalt> shkhar: and i'm looking for converts in the educational industry
[01:14] <sudonim> I am trying to use the latest .deb package because there is none for Ubuntu and it is telling me that it needs a newer version of libc6
[01:14] <dabaR> then you can know how bad it is
[01:14] <Seveas> I've spent countless hours in here helping people restoring ubuntuguide-inflicted damage
[01:14] <oggah> How do I backporting Gaim 1.5? Right now I got 1.1.4 installed.
[01:14] <oggah> want 1.5
[01:14] <coarsesalt> dadaR: my peeps would be very intimidated by this room
[01:14] <dabaR> sudonim: and we dont care which package it is.
[01:14] <coarsesalt> dabaR: oops
[01:14] <Seveas> coarsesalt, for the educational industry you should also keep an eye on edubuntu
[01:14] <shekhar> Seveas, i sympathise, but i have never broken my system with ubuntuguide instructions
[01:14] <_twitch_> hey guys, i have a radeon 7500... and a winmodem so i cant use apt-get
[01:14] <Seveas> shekhar, then you were lucky
[01:14] <sudonim> dabar: daapd
[01:14] <_twitch_> and gnome wont work
[01:14] <B_166-ER-X> Seveas,  my question is, because when i installed ubuntu, i didnt have theme, then i dont know what update maked them much biger and showin the program ...then probably another update just putted it back like before, also, when i run the ubuntu LIVE version, it shows the way i would want them
[01:15] <_twitch_> im pretty sure its a graphics card problem
[01:15] <_twitch_> recovery mode works fine
[01:15] <coarsesalt> Seveas: yeah... i installed it the day it came out, and have talked a bit with them... not really what I'm looking for right now...
[01:15] <Seveas> B_166-ER-X, then get a theme that define icons for your apps ;)
[01:15] <coarsesalt> Seveas: it's great. For techies. I don't need teachers to set up thin-clients... I just need them to keep their computers running with decent software that doesn't cost a fortune
[01:16] <oggah> Right now I got Gaim v1.1.4 installed. Want v1.5. How do I make this?
[01:17] <bimberi> oggah: backports has a later version, might only be 1.4 tho
[01:17] <Seveas> coarsesalt, then it's just ubuntu :)
[01:17] <bimberi> !backports
[01:17] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[01:17] <spermite> calling all debian users.
[01:17] <bimberi> oggah: on and if you do enable backports, disable them after you install (see /topic)
[01:18] <Seveas> spermite, #debian
[01:18] <oggah> okay
[01:18] <bimberi> s/on/oh/
[01:18] <pc3> hola
[01:18] <pc3> buenas tardes
[01:18] <pc3> hablan espaol?
[01:18] <spermite> Seveas cant talk in there
[01:18] <spermite> wont let me
[01:18] <bimberi> what did you do?
[01:18] <B_166-ER-X> Seveas,  then if i have to get a them to do this, WHy did i saw ubuntu do it by itself..
[01:18] <Pickle_Weasel> what's the command to install the VESA drivers?
[01:19] <pc3> what's speak spanish?
[01:19] <bimberi> !es
[01:19] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:19] <Pickle_Weasel> pc3
[01:19] <Pickle_Weasel> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:19] <Pickle_Weasel> ^.^
[01:19] <Pickle_Weasel> ig
[01:19] <Pickle_Weasel> oh*
[01:19] <Pickle_Weasel> nvm someone did it already
[01:19] <Pickle_Weasel> i feel like an ass
[01:20] <_jason> is it normal behavior for clipboard contents to disappear if I close the app I copied from?
[01:20] <Jan_> how would I go about installing suspend2?
[01:20] <bimberi> Pickle_Weasel: don't :)
[01:20] <Jan_> the website is super-confusing
[01:20] <_twitch_> pw
[01:20] <_twitch_> you speak spanish too?
[01:20] <PiercedH20> I used ndiswrapper to install my windows driver for my Belkin Wireless G and the lights on my NIC have still not lit up.  What should my next step be?
[01:20] <tmorton> How do I remove a root password once I've created one?
[01:20] <shan> elow
[01:21] <Agrajag> sudo passwd -l root
[01:21] <buzi> hello there
[01:21] <hehelol> How compatible are debian repositries with ubuntu and vica versa?
[01:21] <coarsesalt> Seveas: that was the conclusion i came to after my edubuntu install... from all i've seen, ubuntu is a year away. Very close. But not quite.
[01:21] <AdmiralCrunch> Is anyone else on Breezy having trouble with the latest ATI drivers?
[01:21] <pc3> gracias Pickle_Weasel
[01:21] <coarsesalt> Seveas: I, however, love it!
[01:21] <Seveas> coarsesalt, half a year ;)
[01:21] <buzi> just installed ubuntu, and was wondering how can I install vnc on it
[01:22] <oggah> what is a backport anyway? how do you define it
[01:22] <coarsesalt> Seveas: I'll hold you to that
[01:22] <Seveas> development in Ubuntu speeds up exponentially ;)
[01:22] <bimberi> Pickle_Weasel: i think the vesa drivers come installed and you can change the Driver line (in Section "Device") to "vesa" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:22] <AdmiralCrunch> buzi, sudo apt-get install vnc
[01:22] <boxerboy29> is this still a registered only room?
[01:22] <Seveas> and the next release is planned to be a big bang
[01:22] <Pickle_Weasel> =o
[01:22] <Pickle_Weasel> kk
[01:22] <Pickle_Weasel> ty
[01:22] <Seveas> boxerboy29, not right now
[01:22] <Seveas> only during spambot showers
[01:22] <boxerboy29> oh ok
[01:22] <hehelol> I heard that they werent entirely compatible
[01:22] <coarsesalt> Seveas: I was thinking the start of 2006-2007 academic. I'm hoping to tie it into webcasting, bloggin and podcasting using ubuntu as a multimedia platform as it gets more important for ed-people
[01:23] <buzi> this is what I got:
[01:23] <PiercedH20> Any ndiswrapper gurus?
[01:23] <boxerboy29> dapper is gonna be a big hit?
[01:23] <buzi> Reading package lists... Done
[01:23] <buzi> Building dependency tree... Done
[01:23] <buzi> Package vnc is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[01:23] <buzi> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[01:23] <buzi> is only available from another source
[01:23] <buzi> However the followingReading package lists... Done
[01:23] <buzi> Building dependency tree... Done
[01:23] <buzi> Package vnc is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[01:23] <Seveas> NEVER PASTE IN HERE
[01:23] <Jan_> one question
[01:23] <Seveas> coarsesalt, by that time breezy+2 is not yet released, releases are always in october and april
[01:24] <Jan_> why is it necessary to give FOUR commandline options to tar to make it unwrap an archive?
[01:24] <Jan_> and why are we using Tape ARchives anyway?
[01:24] <Seveas> Jan_, only 2
[01:24] <Seveas> tar xf filename
[01:24] <Seveas> x for extract
[01:24] <Seveas> f for from this file
[01:24] <evian> I have two updates that refuse to install, mozilla-firefox, and mozilla-firefox-gnome-support. It seems they are complaining about overwriting files that already exist or something. I don't really understand the error messages.
[01:24] <dabaR> z for zip
[01:24] <dabaR> :P
[01:24] <Seveas> that's only for tar.gz
[01:24] <jbroome> evian: is firefox open while you're trying to update?
[01:24] <dabaR> pah
[01:25] <Strog> dabaR: gzip
[01:25] <Seveas> evian, /topic
[01:25] <Jan_> "your kernel does not have any recent software suspend 2 support compiled in"
[01:25] <coarsesalt> Seveas: breezy+1 is perfect, as I need to start convincing people at least by april to get them converted by september. I might even have to use breezy, which brings me back to why I need sites like ubuntu guide to show people "how easy it is"
[01:25] <Jan_> I know it has SOME support
[01:25] <Jan_> why can't I use what it has?
[01:25] <evian> no, jbroome, although it might have been the first time I tried it
[01:25] <Seveas> coarsesalt, did you look at the docteam website?
[01:25] <kataklysm> Jan_: its become a linux standard for source archives,  it has strong compression... plus its easily identified apart from other OS compressed files like .zip  .rar  even though you sometimes find linux files compressed in zip / rar
[01:25] <Seveas> ubuntu-doc.ath.cx (temporary url tho)
[01:25] <coarsesalt> Seveas: nope. got a link?
[01:26] <red_blood> wich is the best mule? amule? xmule?
[01:26] <Jan_> that's really not a good reason
[01:26] <evian> Seveas, oh ok thanks
[01:26] <Seveas> coarsesalt, http://doc.ubuntu.com/
[01:26] <Jan_> "Linux: Blocking Progress at every possible step"
[01:26] <kataklysm> red_blood: your asking a question that is only going to return opinions..
[01:26] <Jan_> OK.
[01:27] <Jan_> To make it suspend I need to install, apparently, "software suspend 2"
[01:27] <shan> hello everyone
[01:27] <Strog> Tar was originally for archiving to tape but people quickly realized that have archives on file would be good too
[01:27] <Jan_> Software suspend 2 doesn't work with the kernel I have
[01:27] <Jan_> apparently I have to recompile the kernel
[01:27] <Seveas> Jan_, ubuntu kernels come with swsups
[01:27] <Jan_> To do this I need to download the source and unpack it (how?)
[01:27] <Seveas> susp*
[01:27] <Jan_> I also need to read something called "Kernel-HOWTO" which has been "removed for review"
[01:27] <Seveas> CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND=y
[01:28] <kataklysm> Jan_  apt-get install linux-headers
[01:28] <Jan_> Now can anyone understand why people dislike linux over windows
[01:28] <Seveas> Jan_, nonsense, stop the pointless ranting
[01:28] <coarsesalt> Seveas: yeah. my point exactly actually unfortunately. The sun version is one update behind. Which is No Problem for me, but will be for what we like to call 'middle adopters'
[01:28] <Jan_> the hibernate script I have tells me my kernel is out of date
[01:28] <kataklysm> Jan_: because they are spoiled by windows, and are lazy, they don't want something different if they have to relearn things....
[01:28] <Jan_> even though I updated this install forty minutes ago
[01:29] <Jan_> my how fast linux moves
[01:29] <Seveas> coarsesalt, sun version?
[01:29] <Jan_> so what do I do
[01:29] <Seveas> Jan_, hibernate script?
[01:29] <Seveas> which hibernate script?
[01:29] <Necrosan> ok
[01:29] <Necrosan> wtf
[01:29] <Jan_> the one I got from suspend2.net
[01:29] <Seveas> roflol
[01:29] <Necrosan> Seveas: you told me ndiswrapper was on the 5.04 cd
[01:29] <Necrosan> it didnt install ndiswrapper
[01:29] <Seveas> Jan_, that's your own error
[01:29] <Necrosan> So tell me my friend, where is it?
[01:29] <_twitch_> anyone know how to install the vesa drivers?
[01:30] <Seveas> ubuntu comes with suspend things
[01:30] <Jan_> Seveas: that's what suspend2.net told me to do
[01:30] <boboboka> I think I cant update anything..
[01:30] <Jan_> what'm I supposed to do, ignore the guy who wrote it?
[01:30] <Jan_> anyway, how do I fix it?
[01:30] <Seveas> Jan_, why did you go there in the first place?
[01:30] <shan> \#join cebu
[01:30] <Jan_> Someone told me to.
[01:30] <Seveas> good point :/
[01:30] <durt> necrosan - get the source from the ndiswrapper web site
[01:30] <Jan_> So anyway - what do I do?
[01:30] <Seveas> ditch that script
[01:30] <Jan_> fine
[01:30] <Jan_> and?
[01:31] <XTERM35> Hello, could anyone tell me how to enable telnet into my ubuntu computer or if it is possible.
[01:31] <Seveas> and use ubuntu-provided things
[01:31] <Seveas> hint: select hibernate in the logout screen
[01:31] <coarsesalt> Seveas: sorry. Java. I suppose i should just sign in and fix it... I'm new to this really. Just gotten over the hump of really not knowing what I'm doing, to knowing enough to get myself into trouble
[01:31] <kataklysm> Jan_: you should start looking for your packages on the repos 1st!  if you dont find them, look on the webpage for what dependencies are required by the package you are trying to install, then get all them from the repo first,  then follow the instructions that the webpage gives on how to install what your trying to do
[01:31] <Jan_> well the only thing I've seen is hibernate in the logout screen
[01:31] <Jan_> and that just crashes to black screen
[01:31] <Jan_> with the power running
[01:31] <Seveas> coarsesalt, sun java is not legally distributable :)
[01:31] <Jan_> someone also told me to "echo 3 > /proc/acpi/sleep"
[01:31] <lokadin> hey i got the new firefox and there is no font
[01:31] <Jan_> which does put it to sleep
[01:31] <boboboka> when I try to upgrade/update/install, even without checking the internet (I can see on the modem that there is no traffic), I get a nothing new msg..
[01:31] <Jan_> but it won't recover from it.
[01:31] <Jan_> What next?
[01:31] <Strog> XTERM35: ssh insead. telnet is bad since it's easily hacked
[01:31] <Seveas> Jan_, your suspend2 script would do exactly the same
[01:31] <butcherbird> XTERM35, I believe you will have to apt-get telnetd.  Why not use ssh?
[01:31] <lokadin> i just get underscores instead of chracters :S or nothing at all
[01:31] <Jan_> Seveas: exactly the same as what
[01:32] <bimberi> XTERM35: do you want to telnet to your ubuntu box?
[01:32] <Seveas> Jan_, do you use ati/nvidia/atheros/ndiswrapper drivers?
[01:32] <XTERM35> ok thanks
[01:32] <lokadin> hello?
[01:32] <Jan_> It has an nvidia graphics chip on it, but we didn't install the driver yet
[01:32] <Necrosan> durt: that doesnt help
[01:32] <coarsesalt> Seveas: cheers
[01:32] <Necrosan> especially when the damn laptop has no network connectivity
[01:32] <Necrosan> no internet whatsoever
[01:32] <_jason> !ssh
[01:32] <ubotu> methinks ssh is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SSHHowto
[01:32] <boboboka> anybody?
[01:32] <Necrosan> i was going on Seveas word, but he apparently was lying for some reason
[01:32] <Seveas> Necrosan, ?
[01:32] <Jan_> So what next
[01:32] <durt> necrosan - um your on the internet now apparently
[01:32] <lokadin> Seveas: is the new firefox version supposed to  be fontless?
[01:32] <Necrosan> yeah
[01:32] <Necrosan> Through a mac.
[01:33] <Nikopol> boboboka, what is your problem exacltY?
[01:33] <Necrosan> The laptop ONLY has wifi
[01:33] <boboboka> when I try to upgrade/update/install, even without checking the internet (I can see on the modem that there is no traffic), I get a nothing new msg..
[01:33] <Seveas> Necrosan, I was lying with what?
[01:33] <Nikopol> boboboka, yes I read that - so I assume you think there is new stuff to DL?
[01:33] <Necrosan> ndiswrapper is NOT in a 5.04 install
[01:33] <Jan_> Seveas, what do I do now?
[01:33] <Strog> Necrosan: Does it have usb and you have a usb drive?
[01:33] <Jan_> I'm COMPLETELY lost.
[01:33] <Seveas> Jan_, if the hibernate thing does not work, your laptop is not yet fully supported, dcripts from other sites won't help
[01:33] <durt> necreosan- its called ndisutils i think
[01:33] <boboboka> yes. the firefox i have is not 1.0.7 nor 1.0.6
[01:33] <Seveas> just don't use hibernate yet
[01:33] <kataklysm> Jan_ is this your first linux install?
[01:33] <boboboka> its the default that came with the dist
[01:34] <Jan_> Seveas: It's a laptop. It needs to hibernate. Not negotiable.
[01:34] <Seveas> Necrosan, it is
[01:34] <Nikopol> boboboka, ok - I assume you've setup the sources.list properly?
[01:34] <Necrosan> hes right
[01:34] <Seveas> Jan_, then go back to windows.
[01:34] <Jan_> kataklsym7413: Third. We tried two other installs on here.
[01:34] <boboboka> hmm.. whats that?
[01:34] <Necrosan> Just was on the cd, not installed by default
[01:34] <Nikopol> ah
[01:34] <Nikopol> ok wait a mo
[01:34] <Nikopol> boboboka, sorry which version you under?
[01:34] <Jan_> Seveas: Huh? It's hibernate. There's about four different approaches. Any could work. What's the problem?
[01:34] <kataklysm> Jan_: i'm not trying to point you away from ubuntu, but maybe you should learn with something a bit easier to configure
[01:34] <boboboka> version of what?
[01:35] <Nikopol> boboboka, Breezy, Hoary or Warty?
[01:35] <Seveas> Jan_, a piece of hardware in your machine could screw it over
[01:35] <zegenie> why do I get "cannot talk to klauncher" when trying to run the kde3.5 beta packages?
[01:35] <Jan_> Well so far I've been told to get red hat because it's easiest to configure
[01:35] <zegenie> does anybody know?
[01:35] <Seveas> roflol
[01:35] <Jan_> then someone said to get ubuntu because it was easiest to configure
[01:35] <boboboka> hoary
[01:35] <kataklysm> Jan_ redhat isnt the easiest
[01:35] <Nikopol> boboboka, ok
[01:35] <Seveas> have fun with that, you'll come screaming back ;)
[01:35] <Jan_> Look the thing is that NO MATTER WHAT YOU ARE RUNNING, someone will tell you to run something else.
[01:35] <Jan_> Clearly, that is NOT a solution.
[01:35] <steely> i am trying to install snes9x and can't figure out how to do it through aptitude or synaptic
[01:35] <Seveas> but seriously: hibernate is very new in linux
[01:35] <Nikopol> boboboka, http://ubuntuguide.org/
[01:35] <Riddell> zegenie: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16030
[01:35] <Seveas> it's not 100% supported on all machines
[01:35] <Jan_> Seveas: Hibernate has been in laptops since there was laptops.
[01:36] <Nikopol> boboboka, btw hoary is 5.04
[01:36] <Jan_> it is not new difficult or clever.
[01:36] <Seveas> Nikopol, do not recommend ubuntuguide
[01:36] <kataklysm> Jan_, if you want to configure easy you should probably go with mandrake or mandriva, but dont complain about the dependency hells you will go through when trying to install more software..
[01:36] <Jan_> What's the problem.
[01:36] <trigger> hi everyone
[01:36] <Seveas> Jan_, hardware, drivers, kernel modules
[01:36] <Nikopol> Seveas, no?
[01:36] <Seveas> there's so much that can screw things over
[01:36] <Seveas> !tell Nikopol about ubuntuguide
[01:36] <boboboka> o.k. what do I do with the url? read all of it's manuels?
[01:36] <Nikopol> boboboka, no
[01:37] <ram__> sup everyone
[01:37] <Seveas> Jan_, the easiest to do is use windows if that supports hibernate for your machine properly
[01:37] <WebLOCH> Will breezy be running on 2.6.11 +
[01:37] <Jan_> well it came with windows on it
[01:37] <Seveas> the *best* to do is find out which kernel module gives you problems and report a bug :)
[01:37] <kataklysm> Jan_: im not telling you to run something else, im telling you that maybe you should "try" something else, see if it works, different distros work different for different computers / users....
[01:37] <a_monkey> what's a really nice open-source aim client
[01:37] <kataklysm> WebLOCH: yes
[01:37] <Nikopol> what you need to do is setup a file /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:37] <bimberi> WebLOCH: 2.6.12 iirc
[01:37] <Seveas> but since you're new to linux that may be too much to ask
[01:37] <trigger> can some one tell me how can i install programs using the cd, i uninstall firefox because i was crashing every time i open yahoo with segmentation fault and i want to install it back
[01:37] <_jason> how can I remove the hibernate option from my log out menu?
[01:37] <Nikopol> boboboka, what you need to do is setup a file /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:37] <Seveas> a_monkey, gaim
[01:37] <bimberi> a_monkey: gaim
[01:37] <a_monkey> hmm
[01:38] <boboboka> o.k. how?
[01:38] <WebLOCH> kataklsym7413, bimberi, so it should detect a little more of my hardware by default
[01:38] <Jan_> kataklsym: yeah, well, if I listened to every person who said that I'd be in a constant state of downloading distros.
[01:38] <Jan_> Clearly that's not going to solve the problem.
[01:38] <Nikopol> boboboka, I'll open a private msg windwo for me to help you ok?
[01:38] <a_monkey> gaim doesn't provide those little messages that notify you if the other person(s) is/are typing
[01:38] <bimberi> a_monkey: i just knew you wouldn't like that answer :)
[01:38] <[pbC] Obst> a_monkey i think kopete is better than gaim
[01:38] <_jason> a_monkey:  it does
[01:38] <zegenie> thanks, Riddell
[01:38] <zegenie> but is there any solution?
[01:38] <_jason> a_monkey:  little keyboard in the top right corner appears
[01:38] <kataklysm> WebLOCH: it depends on what hardware you have, it does detect more than the 2.4 kernel of course..
[01:38] <Quinthius> a_monkey: it doesnt give a message, but it makes a little icon in the upper right corner of the window..
[01:38] <bimberi> WebLOCH: yes, hopefully
[01:38] <a_monkey> _jason: i don't see them
[01:38] <sevas_25> hi crew
[01:38] <a_monkey> Quinthius: oh
[01:39] <Seveas> Jan_, if you want to try things, try fedora, ubuntu and opensuse. If neither of these can hibernate, no other one can. I think you're just being bitten by a bug in a kernel module that will one day (soon hopefully) be solved in either the suspend scripts or the module.
[01:39] <|ww> what do I use for setting up a VPN connection with ubuntu?
[01:39] <Nikopol> boboboka, you not reading the message I'm sending you?
[01:39] <Seveas> |ww, a vpn client :)
[01:39] <Jan_> Seveas: I just don't understand why this is a problem.
[01:39] <boboboka> yes I do
[01:39] <_jason> anyone know how to remove hibernate as an option when you log out?
[01:39] <Jan_> Or even why this is STILL a problem.
[01:39] <trigger> can someoen tell me how can i install firefox back again? thank you in advance
[01:39] <Jan_> People have been hibernating computers for over a DECADE.
[01:39] <bimberi> trigger: see /topic
[01:40] <Nikopol> it's in a seperate tab
[01:40] <WebLOCH> kataklsym7413, Im running 2.6.10.5-smp, but apparently there is support for most of my motherboards chipsets under 2.6.12, such as the SATA, HDA and Intel PCIe Gigabit LAN
[01:40] <Rich43> http://schleppingsquid.net/PSPHacking/ hahah some guy got windows 95 on a PSP
[01:40] <|ww> Seveas; heh thanks.. using BSD i'd usally make; make install; never used rpm's so i'm not sure what client to use
[01:40] <Nikopol> boboboka, it's in a seperate tab
[01:40] <kataklysm> Jan_ if you can sudo lsmod and make sure the module is loaded that might help us to help you
[01:40] <boboboka> i'm answering you in the window...
[01:40] <Jan_> I mean - splutter - it's a LAPTOP ffs.
[01:40] <Seveas> Jan_, please stop the fighting now, it won't help either
[01:40] <boboboka> it's like you don't see it
[01:40] <butcherbird> Jan_, using hoary or breezy? you could always try installing the other.  Maybe apt-get a different kernel. But Im pretty much a newb so take anyting I say with a grain of salt =)
[01:40] <Jan_> OK, OK, I'm just in a state of utter disbelief.
[01:40] <Jan_> Seems like they spent their time drawing nice desktop images, not coding.
[01:40] <Seveas> bullshit
[01:40] <poningru> Jan_: what kernel are you using?
[01:40] <Seveas> and you know that
[01:41] <Jan_> As far as I'm concerned if it doesn't support hibernate it is not a releasable operating system, and yet...
[01:41] <kataklysm> Jan_: why dont you just reload windows,  i think thats the repsonse your waiting for
[01:41] <WebLOCH> Jan_, why would you want hibernate?
[01:41] <sh0wtime> hi.. trying to add an airport card in ubuntu.  it detected it during installation but now it doesnt show up under network settings
[01:41] <Seveas> Jan_, stop the fighting now, you're going way off topic and it doesn;t help
[01:41] <trigger> thank you bimberi
[01:41] <bimberi> trigger: yw :)
[01:41] <boboboka> Nikopol, I'm writing to you, but I think you can't see it
[01:41] <boboboka> don't know why
[01:41] <poningru> Jan_: seriously dude making personal attacks on people who code for free is not going to get you anywhere
[01:41] <Jan_> WebLOCH: so I can carry it around in my bag without flattening the batteries.
[01:41] <|ww> whats the typical method of installing a new application  like compile source.. using rpms?
[01:41] <Nikopol> boboboka, you writing to me in the private msging?
[01:41] <poningru> Jan_: it works for me
[01:41] <Jan_> Well, more to the point don't code for free! :)
[01:41] <boboboka> yes..
[01:41] <Seveas> |ww, .deb files
[01:41] <Seveas> not rpms
[01:42] <Seveas> and you get them with apt :)
[01:42] <poningru> Jan_: you sir are an idiot
[01:42] <Jan_> The thing is, I'd rather pay for it, and have it work.
[01:42] <Seveas> poningru, don't attack people personally...
[01:42] <boboboka> Splaff!
[01:42] <sevas_25> guy's ftpwho need FAM, can I use gamin instead
[01:42] <Nikopol> boboboka, crap
[01:42] <Seveas> Jan_, last warning to stop it now
[01:42] <sevas_25> ??
[01:42] <Nikopol> boboboka, weird
[01:42] <boboboka> don't know what's going on ...
[01:42] <kataklysm> Jan_: if you know anything about open source you will realize that free code is much better than closed code that has no way to be modified for manipulation
[01:42] <carrarro> Need advise, how to get a wireless router to work in Ubuntu 5.4
[01:42] <WebLOCH> Jan_, turn it off.
[01:42] <Jan_> Okay. Um, how do I uninstall totem?
[01:43] <boboboka> k
[01:43] <Seveas> Jan_, are you running hoary or breezy?
[01:43] <Jan_> kataklsym: that's what I hear, but... at the end of the day it doesn't actually work. So. Er.
[01:43] <Jan_> Sev: Breezy.
[01:43] <benplaut> Jan_: sudo apt-get uninstall totem*
[01:43] <sh0wtime> carrarro:  funny i need advise on how to get my wifi card to show up
[01:43] <Seveas> Jan_, applications -> add applications
[01:43] <Seveas> find totem, unselect it
[01:43] <sevas_25> LOL
[01:43] <kataklysm> Jan_: it would work at the end of the day if you would spend your time researching the problem rather than fussing and complaining about why it dont just work right out of the box....
[01:43] <Seveas> kataklsym7413, you stop it too
[01:43] <Jan_> E: invalid operation uninstall
[01:44] <ian_here> here me
[01:44] <HrdwrBoB> that's remove
[01:44] <benplaut> Jan_: sudo apt-get remove totem*
[01:44] <HrdwrBoB> not uninstalll
[01:44] <Noah0504> Will amaroK work under Gnome?
[01:44] <HrdwrBoB> uninstall
[01:44] <Jan_> kataklsym: Well, I went to the suspend2 site and tried to follow their instructions, but the instructions were broken in themselves.
[01:44] <ian_here> hu tsi
[01:44] <kataklysm> Seveas: what did i do?
[01:44] <poningru> ubotu: tell sh0wtime about wireless
[01:44] <sh0wtime> plz do =)
[01:44] <HrdwrBoB> I never hibernate my laptop, it can sleep for 4-5 days
[01:44] <chavo> Noah0504, yes
[01:44] <kataklysm> Jan_: thats why i told you to try to find your answer in the repositories
[01:44] <carrarro> sh0time: I went to system, networking and cliked on the icon and the cliked on properties to configure it
[01:45] <ian_here> hey u der wana talk to???
[01:45] <trigger> amarok works well :)
[01:45] <Noah0504> Okay, just making sure.
[01:45] <poningru> Noah0504: yes
[01:45] <guest> hello
[01:45] <Pickle_Weasel> what is a good DVD player program?
[01:45] <durt> whats wrong with just turning your laptop off?
[01:45] <ian_here> hi der
[01:45] <Noah0504> I didn't know if it had to have KDE to work.
[01:45] <Pickle_Weasel> gxine doesn't work properly for me
[01:45] <ian_here> asl
[01:45] <sevas_25> xine
[01:45] <sevas_25> mplayer
[01:45] <durt> pickle_weasle: vlc
[01:45] <benplaut> Seveas: banned, but still in the room?
[01:45] <|ww> Seveas; okay where do i execute a apt command, i try apt-get install openvpn  in terminal ,i get permission denined, do i need to get root access or go someplace else
[01:45] <poningru> Pickle_Weasel: vlc
[01:45] <HrdwrBoB> durt: no need :)
[01:45] <Pickle_Weasel> vlc it is
[01:45] <ian_here> any girl want to chat with?
[01:45] <bimberi> |ww: sudo apt-get ...
[01:45] <Strog> benplaut: quieted not banned
[01:45] <boboboka> Nikopol, I already have that file, and it has these lines..
[01:45] <Seveas> benplaut, freenode stupidness, it's a mute, not a ban
[01:45] <sh0wtime> carrarro: mines not being detected, although it was detected during the installation
[01:45] <ian_here> hi bimberri
[01:45] <Seveas> ian_here, wrong channel
[01:45] <ian_here> asd
[01:45] <benplaut> ahh
[01:45] <chavo> Noah0504, it needs some kde stuff installed to run, but will run fine under any desktop
[01:46] <Seveas> ian_here, this is a support channel
[01:46] <poningru> ubotu: tell Pickle_Weasel about dvd
[01:46] <poningru> eh thats not a good answer
[01:46] <Nikopol> boboboka, is it exactly the same as that?
[01:46] <ian_here> what support channel?
[01:46] <boboboka> Nikopol, well they are a bit diffrent
[01:46] <sevas_25> guy's need help with ftpwho command, need fam but I using gamin
[01:46] <Seveas> ian_here, read the topic...
[01:46] <Nikopol> boboboka, ok well change them ;)
[01:46] <poningru> ubotu: tell Pickle_Weasel about hoary-extras
[01:46] <kataklysm> what?
[01:46] <benplaut> ian_here: this channel is for Ubuntu tech support only
[01:46] <sevas_25> somebody knows what I talking about
[01:47] <poningru> Pickle_Weasel: do you have everything for dvd playback now?
[01:47] <ian_here> hey seveas
[01:47] <carrett> hi everyone i'm trying to set up an ipod. i just transferred a bunch of songs and when i try to eject the ipod it says invalid argument...so i tried just disconnecting the ipod and now only some of the songs that i transferred show up in the menu....anyone can help?
[01:47] <Seveas> sevas_25, gamin and fam are binary compatible, code needing fam should be able to work with gamin
[01:47] <poningru> let me know if it doesnt work
[01:47] <Nikopol> !faw
[01:47] <Pickle_Weasel> yesyes =)
[01:47] <ubotu> Nikopol: I don't know
[01:47] <kataklysm> Seveas: dont be throwing power around in here, i wasnt doing anything but trying to help, not trying to argue...
[01:47] <Pickle_Weasel> thank you
[01:47] <ian_here> hi carret
[01:47] <Nikopol> !faq
[01:47] <ubotu> from memory, faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/
[01:47] <carrarro> sh0time: that's odd. Does it apear in the list in transparent look, or does it not apear at all?
[01:47] <ian_here> whats ur probllem there?
[01:47] <boboboka> but I think they should be as they are - I have a hebrew version, so the urls leads to an il subdomain of ubuntu
[01:47] <Seveas> kataklysm, did you read the notices I sent you?
[01:47] <sevas_25> [seveas]  it don't
[01:47] <kataklysm> yes i did
[01:47] <carrett> ian_here: hi.
[01:47] <ian_here> hi carret
[01:47] <carrarro> s0wtime: when you go to networking properties that is
[01:47] <carrett> TWO Ts
[01:47] <sevas_25> is for pure-ftp
[01:47] <kataklysm> and you called it an argument when i was simply pointing him in the right direction
[01:48] <ian_here> hey
[01:48] <sevas_25> I allready google  a lot
[01:48] <kataklysm> unlike most i dont care to help a newbie out
[01:48] <Seveas> kataklsym7413, what's so hard about 'stop it now'
[01:48] <sevas_25> n acn't find the answer
[01:48] <poningru> sevas_25: whats the prob dude?
[01:48] <sevas_25> pure-ftpwho command need fam
[01:48] <boboboka> Nikopol, ok. found the prob. the lines were commented
[01:48] <sevas_25> but  gamin  is installed
[01:49] <sevas_25> allready
[01:49] <Nikopol> boboboka, aha - so is it installing now?
[01:49] <Seveas> sevas_25, and you really really don't want to go back to dam - trust me on that one
[01:49] <selinium> Hi guys I install winetools from a walktrough in the forum, the forum is down at the mo. Apt and dpkg are unaware of the install. How do i get rid of it?
[01:49] <boboboka> Nikopol, yeah, i did the update. should I now close everything and do the upgrade?
[01:49] <Seveas> selinium, did you install them with apt-get?
[01:49] <Nikopol> yeah
[01:49] <poningru> selinium: how did you 'install it'
[01:49] <Nikopol> boboboka, yeah
[01:49] <poningru> selinium: did you compile it?
[01:49] <Nikopol> apt-get update
[01:50] <Nikopol> apt-get upgraed
[01:50] <sevas_25> [Seveas]  to install FAM need to uninstall so many things, n u right , I don't wanna do that
[01:50] <boboboka> k. and one more question - how do I install vnc?
[01:50] <Nikopol> argh!
[01:50] <Nikopol> boboboka, apt-get upgrade
[01:50] <selinium> If i could get access to the forums I could find out! :) Shall I just wait til they are back up?
[01:50] <blunted> !fstab
[01:50] <ubotu> blunted: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[01:50] <Nikopol> boboboka, now Firefox should install
[01:50] <blunted> !updating fstab
[01:50] <ubotu> blunted: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[01:50] <boboboka> don't you mean sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:50] <Nikopol> boboboka, yes
[01:50] <blunted> !grub
[01:50] <ubotu> from memory, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[01:50] <poningru> selinium: sure
[01:51] <boboboka> Nikopol: o.k. and one more question, how do I install VNC ?
[01:51] <butcherbird> selinium, you might try the google cache
[01:51] <sevas_25> [poningru] 
[01:51] <Nikopol> boboboka, erm wait a mo
[01:51] <boboboka> k
[01:51] <poningru> sevas_25: whats up?
[01:51] <ian_here> hi want to tal;k to?
[01:51] <ian_here> hey there
[01:51] <selinium> poningru, I installed wine from the cvs, so i might of installed that as well... Cant remember!
[01:51] <selinium> butcherbird, how do i do that?
[01:51] <sevas_25> I was talking to U
[01:51] <Nikopol> boboboka, sudo apt-get install vncviewer
[01:51] <sevas_25> do u read what I said ??
[01:51] <poningru> sevas_25: oh sorry
[01:51] <Nikopol> boboboka, I think
[01:51] <ian_here> hi selenium!!!
[01:51] <blunted> i have another hard drive on this computer
[01:51] <sevas_25> no problem
[01:51] <boboboka> i mean the server
[01:52] <Nikopol> boboboka, ok
[01:52] <guest> hi, newbie here
[01:52] <abalone> hello, I've just installed a printer, but the test page is not appearing correctly on the printed page, I have adjusted the paper type but it is still appearing shifted. Please advise
[01:52] <blunted> how do i make it show up in my Places / Computer window
[01:52] <butcherbird> search with google see if you can find link to page there should be a smaller 'cache' link just below
[01:52] <poningru> so you are trying to use fam?
[01:52] <selinium> ian_here, hi. if you are not here for ubuntu support, please leave.
[01:52] <joetheodd> Alt+F4 is a killer.
[01:52] <Nikopol> boboboka, checking
[01:52] <boboboka> k
[01:52] <sevas_25> pure-ftpd need FAM
[01:52] <joetheodd> I thought I was rid of it when I switched to Linux =p
[01:52] <sevas_25> but  gamin is  installed
[01:52] <poningru> sevas_25: ic
[01:53] <Nikopol> boboboka, same with vncserver
[01:53] <sevas_25> to go back to FAM need to uninstall  GDM n some many things
[01:53] <boboboka> k
[01:53] <AdmiralCrunch> Is anyone else on Breezy having trouble with the latest ATI drivers?
[01:53] <boboboka> Nikopol: thank you very much!
[01:53] <denn_> how do you view quicktime movies in firefox?
[01:53] <Seveas> sevas_25, how are you so sure it needs fam, never heard of that...
[01:53] <Nikopol> boboboka, glad to help
[01:53] <boboboka> Nikopol: you helped me very much!
[01:53] <Nikopol> boboboka, no problemo
[01:53] <selinium> !restricted
[01:53] <ubotu> [restricted]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[01:53] <boboboka> now i'm a bit less newbie in this linux thing...
[01:53] <boboboka> I'll guess you'll be seeing me here soon...
[01:53] <sevas_25> [Seveas]  need it for  ftpwho command
[01:53] <Nikopol> boboboka, well that makes me feel good :)
[01:53] <boboboka> :-)
[01:54] <selinium> denn_ read the restricted formats link
[01:54] <Nikopol> boboboka, contact me if you need anything else
[01:54] <abalone> Can anyone help me with printer configuration?
[01:54] <poningru> sevas_25: ic
[01:54] <abalone> CUPS
[01:54] <boboboka> now I'm gonna upgrade
[01:54] <boboboka> k
[01:54] <boboboka> 10x
[01:54] <boboboka> ba bye
[01:54] <Nikopol> boboboka, bye
[01:54] <sevas_25> [pomimgru]  ic ??
[01:54] <sevas_25> [poningru]  sorry
[01:54] <poningru> sevas_25: hold on still checking
[01:55] <ccc> any tips on a simple beginners ftp-server with a gui, preferably?
[01:55] <abalone> CUPS printer configuration. My printed test page looks great, but the borders are not in the correct place and consequently the entire test page is not printed. I need to figure out why the letter sized print is starting about 2 inches down and maybe .5 an inch to the left where it shoudl be
[01:55] <sevas_25> [poningru]  TNX
[01:55] <sh0wtime> whats the name/location of the wifi config file
[01:55] <poningru> sevas_25: what commands in pureftp require gamin?
[01:55] <Seveas> sevas_25, pure-ftpwho works fine with gamin here
[01:55] <sevas_25> ftpwho requires FAM
[01:55] <blunted> how do i get to my other hard drive within ubuntu
[01:55] <HrdwrBoB> abalone: have you selected the exact printer?
[01:56] <sevas_25> fam monitoring  files sharing
[01:56] <bobert> Should Ubuntu autodetect if I insert a USB flashdrive?
[01:56] <abalone> HrdwrBoB, yes
[01:56] <HrdwrBoB> bobert: yes
[01:56] <bobert> how would I remidy it if it does not?
[01:56] <poningru> sevas_25: hmm ic
[01:56] <abalone> HrdwrBoB, I downloaded the ppd from linuxprinting
[01:56] <snausages> w32codecs has no installation candidate ;\
[01:56] <azteech> hi everyone ... new Ubuntu user ... am having problem with Gaim getting connected to my Yahoo account... when I attempt to signon, it just hangs at approx the 50% mark, all it says is connecting ... when it times out, message I get is "<username> has been disconnected. followed by date string and Unable to connect." Gives me the reconnect or close option. If I attempt to reconnect, I keep receiving the same disconnect message. network set up
[01:56] <azteech> - DSL modem, connected to linksys 10/100 hub, with 10/100 nic card, using static ip. Any ideas how to get Gaim to work correctly?
[01:56] <joetheodd> Is there anything I can do to be upgraded to hoary or breezy without downloading all the 230MB of stuff?
[01:56] <sevas_25> [Seveas]  mm, damn
[01:56] <blunted> !harddrive
[01:56] <ubotu> blunted: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[01:56] <Seveas> sevas_25, how did you install pure-ftpd?
[01:57] <Seveas> joetheodd, order a breezy cd :)
[01:57] <blunted> !/etc/fstab
[01:57] <ubotu> blunted: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[01:57] <butcherbird> ccc, if you need a gui you might try apt-getting pureadmin, looks like a front end to pure-ftpd
[01:57] <sevas_25> ./configure --with-everything
[01:57] <poningru> Seveas: I think its only for certain commands that pureftp requires FAM
[01:57] <joetheodd> Seveas: Anything else =p
[01:57] <Seveas> sevas_25, that's stupid
[01:57] <joetheodd> Seveas: Already did that, heh
[01:57] <poningru> sevas_25: why not try apt?
[01:57] <Seveas> you should install it from the repositories with synaptic
[01:57] <sevas_25> why ???
[01:57] <bobert> how would I get Ubuntu to recognize my flashdrive?
[01:57] <C_J_Pro> What is up with the forums?
[01:57] <sevas_25> I read the document
[01:57] <Seveas> C_J_Pro, maintenance
[01:57] <ccc> butcherbird: thanks!
[01:57] <C_J_Pro> ah
[01:57] <sevas_25> ohhh I see
[01:58] <Seveas> sevas_25, in Ubuntu you don't comile manually
[01:58] <Seveas> you install from repositories
[01:58] <Seveas> so things WORK
[01:58] <sevas_25> I know
[01:58] <dino_> is it possible to configure breezy for wpa encrypted wireless?
[01:58] <sevas_25> but  in apt-get  is 1.90 , n  I download the 1.20 version
[01:58] <Seveas> dino_, yes, but not easy, there's some info on wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto
[01:58] <SpudDogg> anyone know why every time i restart my computer, i cannot log back into Ubuntu, even though i KNOW im typing the right password?
[01:58] <Seveas> SpudDogg, caps lock on?
[01:58] <SpudDogg> nope, not that
[01:59] <sevas_25> [Seveas]  going to uninstall, n install from apt-get
[01:59] <poningru> sevas_25: that would be a good idea
[01:59] <sevas_25> tell u what happen in a second
[01:59] <sevas_25> thanx guy's
[01:59] <dino_> i tried apt-get install wpasupplicant, but it does not find it...is it wpasupplicant or some other name?
[01:59] <blunted> dude
[01:59] <Seveas> it's wpasupplicant
[02:00] <Seveas> but you need universe enabled
[02:00] <abalone> HrdwrBoB, is it possible this is simply a problem with the test page? I'm printing some text to see
[02:00] <gremid> hi, can someone tell me how to change the default text editor in gnome?
[02:00] <dino_> universe?
[02:01] <Seveas> greg, sudo update-alternatives --config gnome-text-editor
[02:01] <red_blood> people... for use mldonkey i must to download mldonkey-server? and then mldonkey-gui?
[02:02] <gremid> Seveas, thanks
[02:02] <Seveas> gremid*
[02:02] <C_J_Pro> anyone here know how I can customize the live cd so I can disable net.eth0 and add in a shell script to run when GNOME starts?
[02:02] <gremid> Seveas, greg is ok ;-)
[02:02] <rasher> Is there a simple way to make the udev/hal/gnome-volume-manager magic that happens when I insert a usb-storage device (mp3 player) mount the drive with the 'sync' option?
[02:03] <Seveas> rasher, iirc that it a compile-time option, but let me check
[02:03] <azteech> anyone have any idea(s) about the gaim problem outlined abouve?
[02:07] <SpudDogg> can someone help me with setting up an FTP server?
[02:07] <sevas_25> ftp name ??
[02:07] <SpudDogg> the one thats built into ubuntu
[02:07] <SpudDogg> admin-something?
[02:07] <sevas_25> name ????
[02:07] <sevas_25> pure-ftpd
[02:07] <SpudDogg> ahh
[02:08] <SpudDogg> thats it
[02:08] <Seveas> there's no ftp server built into ubuntu
[02:08] <sevas_25> the easy way 4 me was GUI
[02:08] <sevas_25> pureadmin
[02:08] <sevas_25> but  u need to compile
[02:08] <SpudDogg> pureadmin...thats it
[02:08] <sevas_25> is the GUI
[02:08] <SpudDogg> can you walk me through htat?
[02:09] <sevas_25> just install pureadmin
[02:09] <sevas_25> is  easy
[02:09] <SpudDogg> install that in the "repositories" right?
[02:09] <sevas_25> no no
[02:09] <crakrjak> where is a listing of packages that comes with ubuntu?
[02:09] <sevas_25> synaptic
[02:09] <eyequeue> Filename: pool/universe/p/pureadmin/pureadmin_0.1.11-1_i386.deb
[02:09] <crakrjak> s/comes/is available/
[02:09] <Seveas> sevas_25, pureadmin is in the repos....
[02:10] <Seveas> crakrjak, packages.ubuntu.com
[02:10] <sevas_25> [Seveas]  danm
[02:10] <crakrjak> thanks much
[02:10] <eyequeue> SpudDogg:  if you want that, you
[02:10] <sevas_25> I getting old
[02:10] <SpudDogg> Seveas, i installed pureadmin...how do i configure?
[02:10] <eyequeue> 'll need universe
[02:10] <marcellus> Is ubuntuforums.org down?
[02:10] <Seveas> marcellus, yes, maintenance
[02:10] <BlankB> does anyone know where I can get a deb of cinelerra 2.0?
[02:10] <_jason> marcellus:  maintenance
[02:10] <Seveas> SpudDogg, ask sevas_25 he know more about it then I do
[02:11] <azteech> anyone have problems with gaim not getting connected to yahoo when 1st running it?
[02:11] <sevas_25> [Seveas]  U know a lot, trust me
[02:11] <SpudDogg> Seveas, ok...thanks
[02:11] <SpudDogg> sevas_25, think you can help me here?
[02:11] <tomek_> can some one help me?
[02:11] <carrett> hi. when i try to eject my ipod i get "eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument" ... what can i do to fix that?
[02:11] <tomek_> im running ubuntu 5.10
[02:11] <evian> Seveas, I followed the instructions at http://tinyurl.com/8cv9q . I did have backports in my repository list and I removed it. But whereas before firefox was actually working, and it was only the update manager that was complaining about not being able to update firefox related packages, now firefox doesn't launch at all. I'm wondering if perhaps I need to delete some debs out of my cache before re-installing?
[02:11] <sevas_25> [spuddogg]  I guess
[02:12] <sevas_25> [spuddogg]  just install from synaptic
[02:12] <SpudDogg> sevas_25, ehh, if not thats cool
[02:12] <SpudDogg> i did that
[02:12] <Seveas> evian, upgrading firefox worked though?
[02:12] <tomek_> and it says it could not find svga and x
[02:12] <SpudDogg> how do i open it?
[02:12] <sevas_25> ok
[02:12] <evian> no problems reported, right
[02:12] <sevas_25> now start  pureadmin
[02:12] <Seveas> evian, killall firefox-bin
[02:12] <SpudDogg> ?
[02:12] <Seveas> and try starting it again
[02:12] <evian> ok...
[02:13] <sevas_25> just write that in console
[02:13] <evian> Thanks Seveas you genius you
[02:13] <Gobbla> evian, after a reboot it worked for me
[02:13] <sevas_25> [spuddogg]  shell >>  pureadmin
[02:14] <evian> thanks gobbla I see now that would have done it too
[02:14] <SpudDogg> sevas_25, i get an error "There was an error when tryting to create password file..."
[02:14] <sevas_25> letme see
[02:14] <i387dh3> hi all..
[02:15] <Seveas> Gobbla, a reboot is also a way to kill all stray firefox processes :)
[02:15] <Seveas> anyhow, off to bed
[02:15] <Seveas> 'night all
[02:15] <SpudDogg> ahh, ok
[02:15] <Gobbla> Seveas, yeah :)
[02:15] <sh0wtime> just installed ubunutu but when i reboot i lose my settings?
[02:15] <SpudDogg> how do i log in with root access?
[02:15] <evian> good night Seveas, thanks again
[02:15] <Gobbla> sh0wtime, like what?
[02:15] <Seveas> SpudDogg, sudo pureadmin
[02:15] <sh0wtime> Spud: sudo passwd root
[02:15] <i387dh3> my ubuntu's automount is suddenly not working.. can anyone help please..
[02:15] <Seveas> sh0wtime, VERY bad idea
[02:15] <flodine> is there a date for breezy yet
[02:16] <Seveas> do not suggest that to newbies
[02:16] <sevas_25> [spuddogg]  figureit out all ready ???
[02:16] <sh0wtime> Gobbla: my root password
[02:16] <steve407> Hello from Florida.  I'm new to Ubuntu and have a question.  I am running Ubuntu Live distro on Mac G4.  Works great!  However I managed to lock my self out.  Had to reboot.  What is default password for Live distro when no users set up?
[02:16] <Seveas> flodine, oct 13
[02:16] <Gobbla> sh0wtime, what do you mean?
[02:16] <Seveas> steve407, it's a bug
[02:16] <Seveas> it should not ask for a password
[02:16] <Nikopol> !lirc
[02:16] <ubotu> Nikopol: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[02:16] <steve407> Ah.  Not my fault?  Makes me feel better already!  ;-)
[02:16] <SpudDogg> sevas_25, no, this still isnt working...i get the error
[02:16] <rasher> Seveas: What's the verdict on the mount-magic sync/async thing?
[02:17] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > hi guys.. i need some help, i'm trying to install winXP on my kubuntu machine with vmware but i have this problem: even if i had specified the /media/hdc (my cdrom device) to be mounted on the virtual machine boot, in the first moment every kind of booting (HD, floppy, cdrom) is skipped and the network booting is started... what could i do? (the cdrom is shown mounted in the bottom-left corner)
[02:17] <sh0wtime> Gobbla: i installed ubuntu.. and changed the root password.. but when i reset it it boots up. (takes a while) and my root account isnt activated anymore
[02:17] <ccc> sevas_25, SpudDogg: i'm just trying out pureadmin/pureftpd myself for the first time. can't do anything in pureadmin, when i choose "manage users" and "create user file" it says 'no such file/dir'. running as sudo. it's not as noob-friendly as i was hoping :-)
[02:17] <Seveas> rasher, compile-time
[02:17] <Seveas> and now i'm really gone
[02:17] <SpudDogg> ccc, my problem exactly
[02:17] <steve407> Thanks for the info Seveas.  Appreciate it.
[02:17] <robotgeek> !mp3
[02:17] <ubotu> mp3 is probably read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[02:17] <evian> what is pureadmin?
[02:18] <abalone> I need help setting up a printer under ubuntu, currently it is not printing correctly for the page size
[02:18] <sevas_25> ccc  is a little confussing  the first time
[02:18] <ccc> evian: a gui for pureftpd (ftp-server)
[02:18] <Nikopol> !remote
[02:18] <ubotu> Nikopol: I don't know
[02:18] <evian> oh
[02:18] <sh0wtime> Gobbla: basicly my root password change was lost after the reset.. why would this happen?
[02:18] <Nikopol> !irc
[02:18] <ubotu> it has been said that irc is Internet Relay Chat. It is a virtual network with servers allowing connections from clients where many people connect and chat with each other related to Linux or even sex.
[02:18] <Gobbla> sh0wtime, well wouldnt know since i dont have a root password..
[02:18] <abalone> HrdwrBoB, I suppose it is possible that this ppd is not for this exact printer although the linuxprinting page says it is the exact printer, what would you advise in that situation?
[02:18] <ccc> sevas_25: word. but i can't figure out where to go from here.
[02:19] <HrdwrBoB> abalone: you might have to hack up the ppd
[02:19] <HrdwrBoB> abalone: the ppd sets your margins and locations
[02:19] <SpudDogg> sevas_25, do i need to run/install pureftpd before pureadmin?
[02:19] <sevas_25> [ccc]  we need to read more n install later :S
[02:19] <sevas_25> [spuddog]  yes
[02:19] <ccc> sevas_25: amen :)
[02:19] <sevas_25> pure-ftpd  synaptic
[02:20] <robotgeek> !backports
[02:20] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[02:20] <rasher> Dang, so I will *have* to unmount my mp3 player to make sure everything's updated. Simply yanking it won't work. Voe is me.
[02:20] <sevas_25> [ccc]   I was using pure-ftp in SUSE, now  move to  ubuntu
[02:21] <sevas_25> tookme a while to  make it run smootly
[02:21] <robotgeek> !extras
[02:21] <ubotu> [extras]  For extra repositories, check out http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[02:21] <selinium> You've been busy Seveas :)
[02:21] <Seveas> yeah ban list was full
[02:21] <Seveas> and a fool needed to be added
[02:21] <cafebaby> :O
[02:21] <Noah0504> Sorry to ask, what I'm sure are stupid questions, but if I use EasyUbuntu to install some plugins and codecs, will those be lost or will they affect anything when I upgrade to Breezy when it's released?
[02:22] <Seveas> too bad i actually spent time talking to him before realizing he has been banned before
[02:22] <selinium> what was kataklsym's problem, He really didn't know when to let go
[02:22] <Earthen> anyone know how to make Adobe use the fonts it can't find Arial.bold font
[02:22] <evian> Seveas, was that Jan_ ? he was obnoxious
[02:22] <Seveas> selinium, I was the 3rd to ban him, this time his provider (DHCP) is banned
[02:22] <Seveas> evian, no, not Jan_, that idiot kataklysm
[02:23] <Seveas> Jan_ was just getting desperate (for a good reason)
[02:23] <evian> ok (Sorry Jan_)
[02:24] <sevas_26> come back
[02:24] <evian> Noah,0504, I'm  not sure the answer, but I think everything will work out all right with those plug-ins and upgrading
[02:24] <Seveas> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah cafuego_ is here
[02:24] <Seveas> now it's really time to go to bed
[02:24] <bob2> haha
[02:24] <robotgeek> me not able to install gstreamer-plugins, why is that?
[02:24] <MachineScrew> can some one tell me if there is a fix to X not loading on boot up
[02:24] <Seveas> hih bob2 :)
[02:25] <Earthen> could some one help with getting adobe to work with fonts
[02:25] <sinferno> my firefox wont upgrade because i locked it a while ago... i forgot how to unlock it
[02:25] <Seveas> austrialia/NZ is waking up I guess :)
[02:25] <SpudDogg> sevas_25, i have installed pureadmin and pure-ftpd.  when i type "sudo pureadmin" i still get the error "There was an error when trying to create the password file [] .  The error reported was 'No such file or directory'"
[02:25] <cafuego_> Seveas: Especially since it's already 10:30 am here. Sheesh, IRC Monkey.
[02:25] <Seveas> cafuego, *g*
[02:25] <Saint> [anyone]  I am hoping for quick advise:  I would like to set up a LAMP server for ,my own education, I am not experienced with Linux much at all:  Is UBUNTU easy to install things like an SQKL Server to?  Is there a more "Out of the Box" distro I should start with?
[02:25] <Seveas> you take over from here, it's been a busy evening :)
[02:25] <MachineScrew> its Breezy
[02:25] <selinium> Saint, yes there is a real easy walkthrough in the wiki. I'll find it for ya
[02:25] <evian> Saint, yeah its easy
[02:26] <bob2> Saint: "SQKL"? sql?
[02:26] <Scrawny1> seveas gimme the url for java again
[02:26] <Scrawny1> pls
[02:26] <Saint> [selenium]  AWSOME!  Thanks Selenium :)
[02:26] <bob2> MachineScrew: whether it's fixable or not depends on what the actual problem iss
[02:26] <SpudDogg> sevas_26, i have installed pureadmin and pure-ftpd.  when i type "sudo pureadmin" i still get the error "There was an error when trying to create the password file [] .  The error reported was 'No such file or directory'"
[02:26] <Nequeo> Heya... Are there known problems with any of the reps at the moment?
[02:26] <bob2> MachineScrew: did it work before you went to breezy
[02:26] <sinferno> my firefox wont upgrade because i locked it a while ago... i forgot how to unlock it
[02:26] <bob2> ?
[02:26] <evian> Scrawny its on the wiki
[02:26] <crimsun> Nequeo: no, they're working
[02:26] <MachineScrew> yes
[02:26] <Nequeo> I'm getting gzip errors...
[02:26] <bob2> Scrawny1: wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[02:26] <Bad_Magic> can anyone help me get mplayer working? it locks up whenever i try to load a file (totem works)
[02:26] <selinium> Saint, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP there you go, it really is that simple! :)
[02:26] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > hi guys.. i need some help, i'm trying to install winXP on my kubuntu machine with vmware but i have this problem: even if i had specified the /media/hdc (my cdrom device) to be mounted on the virtual machine boot, in the first moment every kind of booting (HD, floppy, cdrom) is skipped and the network booting is started... what could i do? (the cdrom is shown mounted in the bottom-left corner)
[02:27] <Nequeo> gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[02:27] <SpudDogg> !tell SpudDogg about FTP
[02:27] <Saint> Thanks again!  Cya ;)
[02:27] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > could someone  help me?
[02:27] <Scrawny1> do I look like I care about some fucking wiki
[02:27] <bob2> MachineScrew: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg', just accept all the ansswers, then 'sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart'.
[02:27] <_jason> Bad_Magic: have you changed the sound to ESD?
[02:27] <MachineScrew> ok
[02:27] <_twitch_> oh man have i had a time
[02:27] <_twitch_> i did a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:27] <selinium> Saint, any probs PM me
[02:27] <bob2> Nequeo: that's usually due to being stuck behind a broken proxy
[02:27] <Bad_Magic> _jason: yup
[02:27] <evian> Scrawnyl: I don't know but you sound like a jerk
[02:27] <_twitch_> cause xserver wasnt working
[02:28] <_twitch_> i reconfiguerd it 50 different ways
[02:28] <cafuego_> Scrawny1: Sounds like you don't WANT help.
[02:28] <_twitch_> kept getting an error message when xserver boots up
[02:28] <bob2> Tallia1[UbuntU] : that ounds more like a vmware question; try their paid support or mailing list
[02:28] <_jason> Bad_Magic: locks up with every type of file?
[02:28] <bob2> _twitch_: if it didnt work automatically, please do file bugs
[02:28] <Nequeo> Hrm... Would that be related to the fact that I can't access the forums at the moment, either?
[02:28] <_twitch_> "I wasnt able to start xserver, probably becuause it was set up incorrectly"
[02:28] <Bad_Magic> _jason: yup
[02:28] <cafebaby> ...
[02:28] <_jason> Bad_Magic: so codecs are all installed... no ideas, maybe someone with more knowledge can help, sry
[02:29] <steely> why is java useful?
[02:29] <sinferno> my firefox wont upgrade because i locked it a while ago... i forgot how to unlock it
[02:29] <SpudDogg> ccc, i figured out the problem with mine
[02:29] <Bad_Magic> !mplayer
[02:29] <SpudDogg> ccc, let me know if you need any help
[02:29] <ubotu> I heard mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto.  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[02:29] <bob2> sinferno: depends how you locked it
[02:29] <sinferno> bob2, gah, i forgot how
[02:29] <ccc> SpudDogg: speak and i shall listen :)
[02:29] <bob2> sinferno: synaptic, dpkg and aptitude all have different mehotds
[02:29] <Nequeo> bob2: I'm not running any Proxy here on site... but our ISP uses squid.
[02:29] <sinferno> bob2, i did it because i installed a bunch of codecs for firefox
[02:29] <bob2> Nequeo: does using a different ubuntu mirror "fix" it?
[02:29] <ccc> SpudDogg: pm
[02:30] <Scrawny1> listen w/e you clowns sent me too wasn't what wanted
[02:30] <Nequeo> bob2: In the process of trying...
[02:30] <bob2> Scrawny1: er, watch your attitude there
[02:30] <Jan_> er
[02:30] <sinferno> Scrawny1, www.google.com
[02:30] <Bad_Magic> ah-hah!
[02:30] <Scrawny1> fuck off Bob
[02:31] <cafuego_> Scrawny: Not clever.
[02:31] <Nequeo> bob2: Are the forums really down though?
[02:31] <sevas_25> spuddog>>> I reading
[02:31] <Scrawny1> w/e
[02:31] <sinferno> Scrawny1, if you cant appreciate free live tech support then go search google
[02:31] <Jan_> I now have the nvidia driver.
[02:31] <kwixted> say fellows, just installed colony 5.  Do you think I should allow the update or wait a while.  Normally I would check ubuntuforums, but they appear to be down right now.
[02:31] <Jan_> First it asked for something called cc
[02:31] <sinferno> Scrawny1, stop complaining douche
[02:31] <Bad_Magic> well that was easy... any idea why my color is fricking borked?
[02:31] <Jan_> so I said "apt=get install gcc" and it satisfied that
[02:31] <Scrawny1> go fuck yourselves
[02:31] <Jan_> then it wanted "make"
[02:31] <Jan_> So, I installed that.
[02:31] <cafuego_> Scrawny1: If the wiki isn't providing you with sueful info, let us know so we cna amend it.
[02:31] <bob2> bah
[02:31] <Jan_> NOw it wants kernel source tree. Which I can't find out how to satisfy.
[02:32] <joetheodd> Scrawny1: language.
[02:32] <Jan_> Ideas?
[02:32] <bob2> Nequeo: I don't know
[02:32] <cafuego_> joetheodd: 't was english
[02:32] <bob2> Jan_: why are you trying to compile the nvidia module at all?
[02:32] <Jan_> I'm not, I'm running the .run file
[02:32] <bob2> Jan_: why?
[02:32] <Earthen> someone help me with font problems?
[02:32] <Jan_> It can't find a kernel interface, or something.
[02:32] <Nequeo> bob2: No worries... I just heard someone else complaining about it. Switching to the American rep solved the problem.
[02:32] <joetheodd> cafuego_: I meant "watch your language"
[02:32] <Jan_> Because this laptop has nvidia graphics hardwarE?
[02:32] <bob2> Jan_: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:32] <cafuego_> Jan_ Why don't you just use the prepackaged ubuntu driver?
[02:32] <_jason> Bad_Magic:  what turned out to be the problem?
[02:33] <Jan_> cafuego: I have a prepackaged ubuntu driver?
[02:33] <Jan_> How do I use it? Am I using it?
[02:33] <bob2> Nequeo: were you using archive.ubuntu.com before?
[02:33] <SpudDogg> ccc, you need to go to "edit -> preferences -> external" and hover over the "Default Password File" box, and enter the location it gives you there
[02:33] <bob2> Jan_: read the url I just gave you
[02:33] <Nequeo> bob2: Was using au.archive.ubuntu.com
[02:33] <cafuego_> Jan_: Yep, it's in 'linux-restricted-modules-KERNELVERSION'
[02:33] <Jan_> And if I am using it, why is DVD playback sluggish in exactly the same way it was under red hat before we installed the nvidia driver?
[02:33] <SpudDogg> ccc, but i still cant start my server...i can now add users though :)
[02:33] <Jan_> It's in what?
[02:33] <cafuego_> Jan_: because dvd playback is not a function of gfx card.
[02:33] <Bad_Magic> _jason: the audio setting was changed in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf but not in the gui
[02:33] <bob2> Jan_:  wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:33] <_jason> oh
[02:33] <durt> nvidia-glx jan_
[02:34] <bob2> Jan_: read that page, it explains it all
[02:34] <bob2> Nequeo: au.archive.ubuntu.com points at the same server as archive.ubuntu.com, so that does sound a bit like the proxy was caching something it shouldn't
[02:34] <Jan_> durt: What? What are you talking about, and in what context?
[02:34] <ColonelKernel> -mm patches dont seem to give any benefit
[02:34] <MachineScrew> It worked thanks
[02:35] <Bad_Magic> _jason: any idea how to get the video to stretch to the size of the window?
[02:35] <durt> jan_: apt-get install nvidia-glx
[02:35] <cafuego_> Jan_:  if DVD playback is chpooy, the driver most likely has problems moving data fast enough. That cna nomally be tuned by enabling DMA on the drive with 'hdparm'.
[02:35] <Jan_> Seveas: Look, I'm really not trying to be antagonistic here, but I am not a software engineer and people just keep throwing random alphanumerics at me. Seriously. No offence meant. OK?
[02:35] <cafuego_> s/chpooy/choppy/
[02:35] <SpudDogg> anyone know why in pureadmin my "Start Server" is greyed out and unclickable?
[02:35] <Nequeo> bob2: You know... I never thought to check that. But I feels robbed, now. I wants my Ozzie archive!
[02:35] <_jason> Bad_Magic:  I believe mine does it when I drag the window automatically
[02:35] <bob2> Nequeo: hehe
[02:35] <steely> does anyone know what packages allow ubuntu's multimedia to play mpegs?
[02:35] <Bad_Magic> _jason: care to pm me what you have selected under the video tab?
[02:36] <bob2> Nequeo: mirror.isp.net.au has a mirror, as does internode (but that's only available to internode customers)
[02:36] <Nequeo> bob2: Normally I would just wait for things to fix themselves... they always have before. But I want to try out the 2.6.9.12 kernel sooner rather than later.
[02:36] <bob2> steely: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:36] <Nequeo> bob2: Having problems with 100% CPU usage from Xorg whenever I'm moving windows, or even just scrolling around.
[02:36] <ColonelKernel> Nequeo, thats normal
[02:36] <JDahl> Isn't it a little gentooish of Debian to only distribute a source package of openafs-client and let user build kernel modules from it? I know it's easy to do, but I havent seen that approach used in Debian before
[02:37] <SpudDogg> bob2, you seem to be pretty good with this OS...do you know anything about pureadmin?
[02:37] <HrdwrBoB> JDahl: could be a licensing problem
[02:37] <JDahl> HrdwrBoB, it's not
[02:37] <Nequeo> Not like this, it's not... Everything feels 'sticky' and 'slow'
[02:37] <bob2> JDahl: including modules for it means rebuilding it for every single kernel-image uploade
[02:37] <abalone> HrdwrBoB, any suggestions on achieving this margin setup?
[02:37] <bob2> Nequeo: are you using Composite?
[02:37] <HrdwrBoB> abalone: sorry I'm not sure, I've never done it only know that's how you do it
[02:37] <bob2> SpudDogg: I've never used pureftpd; I'd just use proftpd or vsftpd.
[02:38] <SpudDogg> bob2, do either of those have a GUI?
[02:38] <Nequeo> bob2: I never installed it...
[02:38] <bob2> SpudDogg: doubt it
[02:38] <bob2> Nequeo: dunno then, sorry
[02:38] <SpudDogg> bob2, ok man, thanks
[02:38] <abalone> anyone in here setup a printer before? :P
[02:38] <Nequeo> bob2: No worries. No-one knows! :) I think it's a motherboard issue, personally.
[02:39] <Nequeo> bob2: I had the same problem in Hoary when I switched motherboards, without doing a reinstall.
[02:39] <Nequeo> bob2: But now Breezy does it, even with a clean install. Whereas a clean install of Hoary fixed it.
[02:39] <fadumpt> any chance I can get someones Breezy Badger /dev/dsp?
[02:39] <clynch> @anyone:  Has anyone found any support to connection via an IPsec connection to a Watchguard firewall?
[02:39] <ColonelKernel> thats so weird, ubuntu still reverses the DNS servers my router gives
[02:39] <bob2> fadumpt: er, you want the contents of their /dev/dsp?
[02:40] <fadumpt> yeah, like the whole dsp
[02:40] <bob2> fadumpt: that's not how it works, sorry
[02:40] <fadumpt> not how it works?
[02:40] <bob2> fadumpt: reading from that file gives you audio data from their microphone
[02:40] <Jan_> Attempting to follow the instructions to install the nvidia driver results in the error "e: couldn't find package nvidia-glx-config"
[02:40] <fadumpt> O_o
[02:40] <fadumpt> not understanding you
[02:40] <WebLOCH> !tell WebLOCH about w32codecs
[02:40] <bob2> clynch: Watchguard requires non-standard ipsec settings?
[02:40] <bob2> JDahl: read it again
[02:41] <ccc> SpudDogg: nice, thanks
[02:41] <JDahl> bob2, read what?
[02:41] <ColonelKernel> can anyone tell me why Ubuntu puts my dns servers in reverse order? no other distro/OS does this...
[02:41] <bob2> fadumpt: /dev/dsp is their soundcard.  writing data to it makes sound come out the speakers. reading from it reads audi ofrom the microphone
[02:41] <Nequeo> bob2: Thanks for the help. Cheers,
[02:41] <bob2> Nequeo: np
[02:41] <clynch> bob2:  Not quite.  The Win32 software is based off of the SafeNet IPSec software.  Also, one can use FreeSwan to create a gateway-to-gateway tunnel.
[02:41] <Jan_> ooh
[02:41] <SpudDogg> ccc, you have a chat client?
[02:41] <Jan_> nv logo
[02:42] <clynch> bob2:  I'm looking for a roaving user VPN client for Ubuntu
[02:42] <fadumpt> bob2, so I deleted my /dev/dsp, isn't someone else's more or less the same"?
[02:42] <bob2> clynch: so what's the issue with connecting to this firewall, compared to any other ipsec destination?
[02:42] <liz4rd> i just installed ubuntu 5.04, was it a smart move for me to right away change the sources.list to breezy and do a dist-upgrade???
[02:42] <bob2> fadumpt: that was dumb
[02:42] <bob2> fadumpt: but it will be recreated on reboot
[02:42] <fadumpt> yeah well, *most* things in any OS reinstall themselves
[02:42] <fadumpt> see, okay, rebot
[02:42] <fadumpt> reboot*
[02:42] <fadumpt> :)
[02:43] <ccc> SpudDogg: join #pureadmin for a sec
[02:43] <Jan_> OK
[02:43] <Jan_> NV driver didn't help playback
[02:43] <bob2> fadumpt: sudo mknod /dev/dsp c 14 3
[02:43] <Jan_> what was that DMA thing
[02:43] <sevas_25> [ccc] 
[02:44] <liz4rd> any answers? :P
[02:44] <sevas_25> is working now ??
[02:44] <mark_> im hot now
[02:45] <ccc> sevas_25: working? no
[02:45] <kwixted> quit
[02:45] <andrewski_> can anyone help?  i'm having trouble finding the available resolutions for a monitor.  google and the manufacturer's pages were no help, and i'm stuck in 640x480 now. :-/
[02:45] <jbroome> 6
[02:46] <greedyb> does Ubuntu have an HCL like list of supported hardware?
[02:46] <bimberi> liz4rd: breezy is in pre-release, but you should be OK.  Hoary is fine though
[02:46] <Jan_> I am having problems with DVD playback stuttering.
[02:46] <Jan_> Someone mentioned DMA on the DVD drive.
[02:46] <Jan_> Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[02:46] <bob2> greedyb: "everything you'd find in a desktop or laptop aside from wireless cards with Free drivers"
[02:46] <bob2> Jan_: searching the wiki for DMA gave no results?
[02:46] <liz4rd> bimberi, but do you think i should of did a dist-upgrade before doing it with breezy repos? or will thebreezy one automaticly update and install everything
[02:47] <greedyb> well I'm about to buy a network card for multiple operating systems..... FreeBSD,Ubuntu and Gentoo
[02:47] <Rich43> I have NetBSD :)
[02:47] <bimberi> liz4rd: what you did should be fine and result in a current breezy snapshot
[02:47] <bob2> Jan_: for instance, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[02:47] <Jan_> bob2: which wiki
[02:47] <Jan_> oh
[02:47] <Jan_> THAT wiki.
[02:47] <bob2> greedyb: as in ethernet? intel cards seem to work very well
[02:48] <PiercedH20> Any ndiswrapper gurus in here?
[02:48] <greedyb> D-Link DFE-530TX+
[02:48] <bob2> PiercedH20: best to just ask your question
[02:48] <PiercedH20> ok bob2
[02:48] <bob2> greedyb: that's cabled ethernet, right?
[02:48] <greedyb> correct
[02:48] <liz4rd> bimberi, Alright thank you
[02:48] <Jan_> how do I know which hd number my DVD ROM is
[02:48] <greedyb> it uses the realtek drivers for freebsd
[02:48] <bimberi> liz4rd: yw :)
[02:49] <usuario> ke ondas
[02:49] <PiercedH20> I installed the driver for my Belkin Wireless G NIC using ndiswrapper, but the lights on the NIC still do not come on.  What should my next step be?
[02:49] <bob2> greedyb: yeah, should work fine
[02:49] <greedyb> ok cool
[02:49] <ColonelKernel> yeah, -mm didnt help things out at all
[02:50] <ColonelKernel> it even gave a very slight performance decrease from 2.6.14-rc2
[02:50] <oasick> hi
[02:50] <renjii> question: if i need to compile something from source, how would it affect the apps installed using apt-get?
[02:50] <renjii> would it break?
[02:50] <oasick> i hava had a problem upgradin ubuntu with te backports repositories
[02:50] <durt> PiercedH20: you might have to remove some module (ie, i had to rmmod acx_pci because my card has an acx chipset)
[02:51] <bimberi> renjii: you should uninstall (apt-get remove) first
[02:51] <PiercedH20> durt: do you have a website with some walk-throughs?
[02:51] <PiercedH20> IM a linux newbie :(
[02:51] <lenojeeno> how do I burn ubuntu.iso into a cd?
[02:52] <sinferno> im having trouble updating firefox in aptitude under mozilla-firefox (= 1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1) it says UNSATISFIED
[02:52] <Rich43> Nero if on windows
[02:52] <bob2> renjii: no, it'll be fine, just make sure you install things in /usr/local when compiling from source
[02:52] <bob2> sinferno: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood
[02:52] <durt> piercedh20: try here: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page
[02:53] <PiercedH20> thanks durt
[02:53] <lenojeeno> Rich43: I've already tried that, but that copies the file "ubuntu.iso" into cd
[02:53] <Jan_> How do I figure out which device my DVD-ROM is?
[02:54] <lenojeeno> Rich43?
[02:55] <Jan_> sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc solved the DVD problem
[02:55] <Rich43> Start nero smart start
[02:55] <Rich43> Go to copy and backup
[02:55] <_jason> If I have compiled a pkg can another user isntall it or does he need the libraries and such I sued to compile it?
[02:55] <Rich43> Click burn image to disc
[02:55] <lenojeeno> k
[02:55] <bob2> go backports, it's your birthday
[02:55] <lenojeeno> let me see
[02:55] <renjii> bob2 - wouldnt autoconfig find the environment variables by default? or would i have problems if, say if apt-get has some dependencies installed elsewhere-...what i want to know is whether apt-get provides tools like gentoo's emerge-tools that would allow me to find where dependencies are, which files belongs to which packages and so forth
[02:56] <bob2> sinferno: answer is in the channel /topic
[02:56] <oasick> bob2. i have that problem too
[02:56] <bob2> renjii: yes, of  course apt has that
[02:56] <oasick> but i cant open a web page because my firefox don't works...
[02:56] <renjii> alrighty- wil look up the man then.
[02:56] <sinferno> bob2, thanks
[02:56] <bob2> renjii: apt is going to utterly ignore things you compile from source, unless it's carefully told otherwise, tho
[02:57] <sinferno> bob2, gah firefox wont work so i can see it lol
[02:57] <renjii> ah yes...- any chances of it leading to dependency hell?
[02:57] <bob2> situations where it's useful to recompile libraries or other things that packages Depend on are very rare, tho
[02:57] <bob2> renjii: no, apt will ignore it entirly
[02:57] <bob2> renjii: keep compiled things in /usr/local/ and you'll be fine
[02:57] <renjii> bob2 - thanks.
[02:57] <lenojeeno> Rich43: I already did that but that copies the whole file "ubunto.iso" into cd.
[02:59] <paul_> mailto:n=fael@cpe-24-242-36-216.hot.res.rr.com
[03:00] <zone17> Hi, how do I change the default font in gaim and xchat? It's very very small.
[03:00] <lenojeeno> Rich43?
[03:01] <zone17> I know it has to do with gtk2, but I can't remember where its done
[03:01] <bimberi> zone17: Settings -> Preferences in xchat
[03:01] <zone17> no
[03:01] <zone17> its in kde
[03:01] <zone17> the default font
[03:01] <norhted> hi, does anyone know how to install texi2pdf?
[03:01] <bob2> zone17: switch2 fro mthe gtk-theme-switch might help
[03:02] <selinium> where are the channel logs kept?
[03:02] <zone17> in breezy the old control panel is gone, I don't know where to set it up in the new
[03:02] <chupalo> hi everyone
[03:02] <bob2> sinferno: people.ubuntu.com/~irclogs/
[03:02] <bob2> bah
[03:03] <selinium> gotit
[03:03] <norhted> how can i install texi2pdf to my ubuntu?
[03:03] <chupalo> new to ubuntu and want to know if there is a way to install it on a pc without cdrom using FTP?
[03:03] <selinium> bob2: not any more they're not!
[03:04] <norhted> Seveas, are you reading this?
[03:04] <bimberi> selinium: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[03:05] <selinium> cheers bimberi
[03:05] <bimberi> selinium: yw :)
[03:05] <bob2> selinium: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/
[03:05] <steely> has anyone had any experience with kaudiocreator?
[03:05] <bob2> chupalo: can your machine boot using pxe?
[03:05] <selinium> bob2, bimberi got there first!
[03:05] <selinium> :)
[03:05] <bimberi> i wake up earlier :P
[03:06] <Buddha|> I'm running the Ubuntu 5.10 prerelease live-cd on a 2004 iBook, and I can't ctrl-click.  Is there a fix for this?
[03:08] <chupalo> what is pxe?
[03:08] <moparfan90> does anyone know a free game that has ood graphics and is like grand turismo or need for spped underground????
[03:08] <moparfan90> pixel maybe
[03:08] <Topslakr> pxe is a network boot protocol
[03:09] <Topslakr> http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/P/PXE.html
[03:09] <HrdwrBoB> Preboot eXecution Environment
[03:09] <chupalo> yes is can boot from the network but I don't have any server sw?
[03:09] <neighborlee> moparfan90, you can seach synaptic for that pattern , that or hop over to happypenguin.org and have a glance...there are a few but I dont believe at that level of complexity...
[03:09] <bob2> chupalo: then you need another unix machien you can run a dhcp and tftp server on
[03:10] <kev_> i just did an upgrade (which upgraded the kernel and parts of xorg) and now use of the nvidia kernel module (to power an nvidia video card) is not working. any suggestions?
[03:10] <bob2> chupalo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/LocalNet
[03:10] <chupalo> The problem is that I don't own another Linux/unix PC.
[03:11] <chupalo> Is there any way to do it using a m$-xp?
[03:11] <HrdwrBoB> possiby
[03:11] <HrdwrBoB> but I doubt people on here know
[03:11] <nybble> hello all
[03:12] <Kimahri> kev_: install build-essential , gcc, and g++, then download the nvidia driver pack from nvidia
[03:12] <Kimahri> kev_: once you unpack it, it'll build the kernel modules for that running kernel... oh, and it also requires the kernel source package for the kernel that you're running
[03:12] <bob2> kev_: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto, follow it again
[03:13] <bob2> Kimahri: no, it requires the kernel headers, not the sourcew
[03:13] <jonnyro> Is there a graphical PPTP client for linux?
[03:13] <jonnyro> I want to connect to a VPN
[03:13] <kev_> Kimahri: in the past i've been able to use the restricted modules pack. is there an issue with it and the latest -k7 kernel?
[03:13] <sambagirl> i did the upgrade to breezy but it did not do anything as far as i know. i did full procedure but nothing saying breezy anywhere
[03:14] <Kimahri> bob2: it's always required a working .config in the kernel source folder for me
[03:14] <Kimahri> kev_: if it's in the restricted modules pack, chances are that it's not built for the kernel you're running
[03:14] <neighborlee> chupalo, no idea if this is what you need but I found this: http://pxes.sourceforge.net/howtos/ms_only_environment/
[03:15] <kev_> Kimahri: what makes you say that? i'm using the latest -k7 kernel image from the standard repository.
[03:15] <Jan_> Is there somewhere constructive I could bitch about the issues with hibernating this Toshiba laptop
[03:15] <kev_> Kimahri: are there known issues with the restricted modules?
[03:15] <signbarn> sambagirl: do you get the groovy boot screen?
[03:15] <Jambon> ok random question. I'm in different channel and I want to set myself as an op. how do I do that?
[03:15] <sambagirl> no
[03:15] <sambagirl> really? a groovy boot screen?
[03:15] <Kimahri> kev_: i wouldn't know... i've always just downloaded the nvidia driver pack and installed it by hand.
[03:15] <bob2> Kimahri: yes, and the source packages contain no .config files in the tree; nor the built headers
[03:15] <kev_> Kimahri: k. i'll give that a try. thanks!
[03:15] <bob2> Jan_: bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[03:15] <moparfan90> i was trying to run a exacutable and got this:
[03:16] <moparfan90> ./vdrift: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL_image-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:16] <signbarn> err a splash screen instead of the normal white-on-black
[03:16] <sambagirl> maybe i should try again.
[03:16] <linuxmonkey> help , each time i try to load some modules for my wifi card and i get.. insmod: error inserting 'open8180.o': -1 Invalid module format
[03:16] <Kimahri> bob2: that's why you .config and build it yourself :)
[03:16] <moparfan90> what do i do
[03:16] <Jan_> bob2: It's not really a bug.
[03:16] <bob2> Jan_: not suspending = bug
[03:16] <signbarn> sambagirl: i did a fresh install, so i'm not sure how to get everything. did you follow a guide to upgrading?
[03:16] <Jan_> I'm not sure whether it's trying to suspend or hibernate
[03:17] <Jan_> and I'm not even sure whether there's an important difference, but I think there is
[03:17] <Jan_> As you see, I'm really not qualified to write the bug up.
[03:17] <Jambon> bob2: it's not a bug, it's a feature!
[03:17] <joetheodd> signbarn: You're looking for a way to upgrade your distro? apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:17] <Bad_Magic> lol
[03:17] <linuxmonkey> anyone?
[03:17] <signbarn> naw, i'm good.
[03:17] <bob2> Jan_: then explain how you started the process
[03:18] <moparfan90> hello. i was trying to run a execuatable and got this: "./vdrift: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL_image-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"   what can i do to make this work???
[03:18] <Jan_> all I did was hit "hibernate" in the logout menu and it blackscreened with the power on.
[03:18] <Jan_> Had to hard rebot.
[03:18] <Bad_Magic> Jan_: it takes a minute to dump ram to disk... try giving it a minute first
[03:18] <signbarn> joetheodd: does a dist-upgrade give you the groovy boot splash screen thingy?
[03:18] <Jan_> Then tried "echo 3 > /proc/acpi/sleep" which appeared to make it sleep - the glowing power light started up.
[03:18] <Arkainium> is there a nice utility for editing start up services and cron jobs?
[03:18] <Jan_> But it won't recover from that either.
[03:19] <joetheodd> signbarn: No clue. I'm on 56k and never tried it =p
[03:19] <Jambon> bob2: how do I set op status in a channel that doesn't have any ops?
[03:19] <eyequeue> Arkainium:  i like vim
[03:19] <Kimahri> moparfan90: apt-get install libsdl and it should give you the libs
[03:19] <sambagirl> yes i changed some gtext file and stuff.
[03:19] <Arkainium> eyequeue, lol
[03:19] <bob2> Jan_: how long did you leave it after selecting hibernate?
[03:19] <Jan_> that's all I know
[03:19] <sambagirl> some list thing
[03:19] <sambagirl> yep
[03:19] <kev_> arkanium: check out bum (i think). check ubuntuguide.org
[03:19] <bob2> Jambon: /msg chanserv op #channel
[03:19] <sambagirl> did some ast gets and stuff
[03:19] <joetheodd> signbarn: It upgrades all the files to that included in the new distro, which I asume would have the new boot screen.
[03:19] <linuxmonkey> anyone here know how to get wifi cards working???
[03:19] <Jan_> bob2: Long enough. There was no HD activity anyway.
[03:19] <bob2> linuxmonkey: be less vague
[03:19] <linuxmonkey> cause each time i try to load some modules for my wifi card and i get.. insmod: error inserting 'open8180.o': -1 Invalid module format
[03:19] <bob2> Jan_: how long? 10 minutes?
[03:20] <bob2> linuxmonkey: that's not a proper driver
[03:20] <Jan_> Two or three, probably.
[03:20] <Kimahri> somebody was saying to not use ubuntuguide... to use the wiki instead
[03:20] <bob2> Jan_: then give it ten minutes and see if it works
[03:20] <Bad_Magic> !grub
[03:20] <ubotu> grub is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[03:20] <linuxmonkey> what do u mean bob2
[03:20] <Jan_> Trying now.
[03:20] <Jan_> There is a small amount of HD activity after it blackscreens
[03:20] <Jan_> then nothing.
[03:20] <Jan_> It clearly isn't doing anything
[03:20] <bob2> Jan_: after ediing /etc/default/acpi-support to say USE_DPMS=False
[03:20] <bob2> Jan_: no, I dont htink that's clear at all
[03:21] <Jan_> OK, I can try that.
[03:21] <bob2> linuxmonkey: drivers for the 2.6 kernel do not have the .o extension
[03:21] <bob2> linuxmonkey: where did you get that file from?
[03:21] <Jan_> I'm comparing this to the known good config under windows, where it would rattle and click for about fifteen seconds after closing the lid.
[03:21] <sambagirl> i expecting new cd's for distribution here will it have breezy?
[03:21] <linuxmonkey> bob2,  its made for Linux 2.6.X, so what should i do
[03:21] <linuxmonkey> bob2, i got it from realtek
[03:21] <Kimahri> linuxmonkey: is it a wifi driver?
[03:22] <linuxmonkey> yeah
[03:22] <Kimahri> linuxmonkey: what driver is it?
[03:22] <Jan_> bob2: OK, is that long enough?
[03:22] <jasmuz> What do you guys recommend for a server....Ubuntu or Knoppix for a Wifi server?
[03:22] <linuxmonkey> for a D-Link DWL-610
[03:22] <signbarn> sambagirl: when did you order them?
[03:22] <bob2> Jan_: no
[03:22] <Jan_> OK
[03:22] <bob2> jasmuz: anything but knoppix
[03:22] <sambagirl> umm not sure now about maybe a week ago?
[03:23] <Jan_> Really. It's as off as it gets without the power light going out.
[03:23] <csthepoet> how do you become su on ubuntu?
[03:23] <Hendric> i got a problem with FIREFOX not displaying flash... how can i remove the flash plugin so that it prompts me to install the plugin again?
[03:23] <jasmuz> bob2, why?
[03:23] <sambagirl> what is knoppix?
[03:23] <Jan_> I don't think the platter is even spinning.
[03:23] <eyequeue> sambagirl:  if you order them now, yes, if you recieve them now but ordered in the past, hoary
[03:23] <sambagirl> brb
[03:23] <bob2> linuxmonkey: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[03:23] <jasmuz> sambagirl, its another Distribution
[03:23] <sambagirl> ok thanks
[03:23] <Kimahri> linuxmonkey: either 'modprobe /path/to/module/file.ko' or you can use some combination of ndiswrapper and the windows driver
[03:23] <Hendric> i removed firefox then installed it back but still it has the same error
[03:23] <bob2> jasmuz: because it's not designed for actual use, and it has no security support
[03:23] <Hendric> pls help me
[03:23] <bob2> Hendric: "same error"
[03:23] <Jan_> If the BIOS thought it was asleep, the power light would pulsate in orange, too, which it doesn't do.
[03:24] <nalioth> sambagirl: www.knoppix.org  <<<<it's the great granddaddy of all LiveCds
[03:24] <bob2> Hendric: you know no one else can see your screen, right? paste the ufll error and your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood
[03:24] <linuxmonkey> I know for a fact that the realtek driver for the 8180 with the device id and ven id works and I cant use ndiswrapper eighter for what i need it for
[03:24] <bob2> Jan_: no ,that's not at all what hibernate does
[03:24] <bob2> Jan_: it writes all ram to disk and then powers off entirely; ie no lights will be on at all
[03:24] <jasmuz> thanks bob2 ...nevertheless its going to be a personal server...tight security isnt going to be needed...its just going to share my internet via Wifi to the building
[03:24] <zone17> Hi, I have just installed the package j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin, looking at a web site with java makes firefox crash, how can I solve this asap
[03:25] <Jan_> bob2: That's the thought.
[03:25] <Jan_> I think that's "hibernate"
[03:25] <bob2> jasmuz: ubuntu then
[03:25] <Jan_> whereas the glowing light thing is "suspend"
[03:25] <bob2> Jan_: yes
[03:25] <Jan_> or "sleep"
[03:25] <bob2> Jan_: right
[03:25] <linner> !tell me about backports
[03:25] <Jan_> OK, the power light is still on.
[03:25] <bob2> Jan_: hibernate doesn't use the bios or anything, and should work on basically any hardware
[03:25] <Hendric> bob2: it doesn't give any error... the flash movie is just blank.. when i right click  on it... it says "Move not loaded"... and this happened after tweaking the plugins...
[03:25] <Jan_> Still no joy.
[03:25] <bob2> Jan_: did you do the DPMS thing I suggested?
[03:25] <Bad_Magic> can anyone help me get a splash screen working with grub?
[03:25] <Jan_> No, I'd already hit the button before you said.
[03:25] <eyequeue> linner:  you can /msg ubotu backports, too
[03:25] <Kimahri> Jan_: hibernate works on my old pmmx-150 IBM thinkpad which has no power management to speak of
[03:25] <linner> nalioth, hello :)
[03:25] <jasmuz> bob2, do you know about any ncurses bittorrent client?
[03:25] <Jan_> I shall restart it and try that.
[03:26] <Jan_> Really, it would have worked by now.
[03:26] <linner> eyequeue, what's the difference?
[03:26] <jasmuz> !backports
[03:26] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[03:26] <Kimahri> jasmuz: btdownloadcurse.spy
[03:26] <bob2> jasmuz: bittornado is nice
[03:26] <Kimahri> err.
[03:26] <bob2> Jan_: not neccessarily
[03:26] <Hendric> bob2: i only want to resfresh firefox so that if i view a flash site... it asks me to install the plugin again...
[03:26] <linner> eyequeue, I thought that's what I did.
[03:26] <poningru> try rufus people
[03:26] <Kimahri> btdownloadcurses.py from the bittornado package
[03:26] <eyequeue> linner:  channel traffic vs private
[03:26] <poningru> gaah
[03:26] <poningru> is Jan_ the idiot back?
[03:26] <linner> oh okay
[03:26] <sambagirl> knoppix is all in german
[03:26] <bimberi> poningru: for goodness sake...
[03:26] <Jan_> bob2: remind me what DPMS thing you suggested :)
[03:27] <Hendric> bob2: it doesn't give any error... the flash movie is just blank.. when i right click  on it... it says "Move not loaded"... and this happened after tweaking the plugins...
[03:27] <eyequeue> linner:  btw, see /topic heh    bp is not popular these days :)
[03:27] <zone17> I have just installed the package j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin, looking at a web site with java makes firefox crashes, how to deal with that?
[03:27] <sambagirl> brb
[03:27] <selinium> What the colony release all about?
[03:27] <bob2> 11:20:49           bob2 | Jan_: after ediing /etc/default/acpi-support to say USE_DPMS=False
[03:27] <poningru> bimberi: -> #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:27] <Jan_> Thanks
[03:27] <eyequeue> selinium:  a prerelease of breezy
[03:27] <bimberi> poningru: already there :)
[03:27] <linuxmonkey> Kimahri, that didnt work and I cant use ndis wrapper as it does not support many of the apps i need and when i try to load .ko i get the same error
[03:27] <Jan_> I don't quite know what I'm doing with the "echo 3 > /proc/acpi/sleep" thing
[03:27] <Jan_> but it seems to half work
[03:27] <Jan_> which may also be a bug
[03:27] <selinium> eyequeue, I thought we already had one of those?
[03:27] <Stranjo> hlw ppl
[03:28] <bob2> Jan_: you don't need to run that at all
[03:28] <jasmuz> Guys
[03:28] <eyequeue> selinium:  5 of those, i believe :)
[03:28] <jasmuz> check you all later
[03:28] <bob2> Jan_: /etc/acpi/sleep.sh is what you'd run to suspend to ram from the command line
[03:28] <Hendric> can anyone help me here? i want to refresh firefox plugins so that it will ask me again to install plugin if i view a flash site.....
[03:28] <Jan_> well that's different to what it appears to be trying to do when I "hibernate" it
[03:28] <selinium> eyequeue, lol
[03:28] <bob2> Jan_: yes, sleep != hibernate
[03:28] <Stranjo> I've upgraded my ubuntu hoary to breezy, and the Xorg dont works anymore
[03:28] <Jan_> I guess ideally both should work
[03:28] <bob2> Stranjo: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:28] <poningru> Hendric: do you have flash plugin?
[03:29] <bob2> Jan_: indeed...you should only be running /etc/acpi/sleep.sh or /etc/acpi/hibnerate.sh, tho
[03:29] <Hendric> i installed it and tweaked something...
[03:29] <selinium> eyequeue, i think i can wait a couple of weeks for the release! A few more people will know what to do with the bugs aswell!
[03:29] <poningru> Hendric: how did you install?
[03:29] <Hendric> it can't view flash objects anymore...
[03:29] <poningru> and what did you tweak?
[03:29] <Jan_> bob2: false or False?
[03:29] <eyequeue> selinium:  ideally they will be less too
[03:29] <Hendric> it installed with ubuntu...
[03:29] <Stranjo> thanks bob2 :)
[03:29] <selinium> :)
[03:29] <bob2> Jan_: don't think it matters, but I have "false"
[03:29] <Jan_> ok
[03:30] <Hendric> so i want it refreshed so that it will ask me again if i view a flash site
[03:30] <poningru> Hendric: you mean apt?
[03:30] <sh0wtime> my wifi finally got detected with the live cd but i cant ping www sites.. do i have to do anything other then ifdown if up eth1?
[03:30] <linuxmonkey> bob2, does ndiswrapper support scanning?
[03:30] <Jan_> one ominous thing
[03:30] <poningru> Hendric: how did you install it?
[03:31] <bob2> linuxmonkey: don't know
[03:31] <Hendric> poningru: it was installed when i installed ubuntu
[03:31] <Jan_> when I grep'd dmesg for "swsusp" it came up with two complaints about some partition not being correctly formatted
[03:31] <Bad_Magic> can anyone help me get a splash screen working with grub?
[03:31] <Jan_> now that makes sense to me based on what I know about how hibernate is supposed to work
[03:31] <poningru> Hendric: thats not possible
[03:31] <poningru> brb
[03:31] <Jan_> but it could be misreading something I guess.
[03:31] <bob2> Jan_: every time it boots, it checks the swap partition to see if it hibernated last time; if so, it resumes, if not, it continues
[03:31] <Jan_> I think this laptop suspended to a file under windows anyway
[03:31] <Hendric> how can it be impossible?? ubuntu came with firefox right???
[03:31] <bob2> Bad_Magic: which bit of the grub documentation is confusing you?
[03:32] <bob2> Jan_: linux can suspend to a swap partition or file, but since you already have a prtition, that's less hassle...
[03:32] <Hendric> then i installed flash plugin by viewing a flashsite then clicked "install misssing plugin"
[03:32] <Bad_Magic> bob2: basically it comes out all garbled when I try to boot
[03:32] <eyequeue> sh0wtime:  can you ping 82.211.81.130?
[03:32] <Jan_> bob2: OK, I changed that file. Do I need to reboot, or should I try hibernating again right now?
[03:32] <linuxmonkey> bob2, so just to make sure, a 2.4.X driver wouldnt workin in 2.6 right, cause thats the other driver they have and im almost out of options
[03:32] <sh0wtime> eye:  lemme see.. brb
[03:32] <bob2> Bad_Magic: sure it's in the exact right format?
[03:32] <Bad_Magic> bob2: splashimage (hd0,1)/grub/splashimages/biosplash.xpm.gz    <--- thats the file in my menu.lst
[03:32] <bob2> linuxmonkey: correct
[03:33] <Bad_Magic> bob2: i downloaded it from the repo
[03:33] <bob2> Jan_: you can hibernate now
[03:33] <bob2> heh, cookies for breakfast
[03:33] <Cube-ness> hey.. ar the nvidia drivers working in breezy yet? i ave been running old kernel/nvidia-glx becasue as of last week, i coulnt get it to work
[03:33] <Jan_> Some text on screen
[03:33] <Jan_> "stopping devices
[03:33] <Jan_> "freeing memory"
[03:33] <Jan_> but otherwise much the same result.
[03:33] <linuxmonkey> im wondering why a 2.6.X module is saying invalid module format
[03:34] <bob2> Jan_: what's the last thing on the screen now?
[03:34] <Jan_> It's blanked
[03:34] <Bad_Magic> bob2: maybe i fixed it since last time... brb
[03:34] <Jan_> but we think it was "freeing memory"
[03:34] <bob2> linuxmonkey: if it ends in .o, it's not a 2.6 module
[03:34] <bimberi> bob2: what about the vegemite toast?
[03:34] <linuxmonkey> no the one im trying now is ko
[03:34] <bob2> bimberi: that involves going to the kitchen ;)
[03:34] <Jan_> Just so you know, this is a reasonably new install of Breezy which we did an apt-get dist-upgrade on earlier
[03:34] <sh0wtime> eyequeue: host unreachable
[03:34] <Jan_> which broke a ton of stuff
[03:34] <bimberi> bob2: ha!
[03:34] <Jan_> so if there are faults, it may be down to that
[03:34] <bob2> linuxmonkey: you'll get that error if it wasn't built for your exact kernel too, I think
[03:35] <nalioth> Jan_: breezy will be kinda up and down til oct 13
[03:35] <bob2> Jan_: hm, odd
[03:35] <eyequeue> sh0wtime:  okay, we determined it's not a resolver issue, it's a routing issue
[03:35] <bob2> Jan_: did it power the machine down, or just blank the screen and then keep running without hitting the disk?
[03:35] <TraceGreen> Hello, Can i edit registry of Windows in linux if i using wine? suppose windows filesystem is ntfs.
[03:36] <JDahl> TraceGreen, not likely
[03:36] <eyequeue> sh0wtime:  can you ping any of the hosts on your lan via ip address?  192.168.0.2 perhaps
[03:36] <bob2> TraceGreen: not really
[03:36] <linuxmonkey> ok i guess ill try ndiswrapper again
[03:36] <bob2> TraceGreen: there are various dodgy hacks, but none are as simple as rebooting ;)
[03:36] <Cannabliss> this an easy install?
[03:36] <TraceGreen> bob2, if Windows filesystem is fat32, so, edit it in wine is ok, is it?
[03:37] <damado> xavi estas ahi
[03:37] <Cannabliss> format and pop the disc in?
[03:37] <bob2> TraceGreen: yup
[03:37] <TraceGreen> bob2, thanks!
[03:37] <bob2> Cannabliss: the installer walks you through the partitioning
[03:37] <sh0wtime> eyequeue:  cant ping the other machine on my network either which is 192.168.2.2 (router is 192.168.2.1) when i try to connect it says connection refused
[03:37] <cevizoglu> the sound on my laptop's speakers is just a whisper at full volume.  is there a way to fix this?  I'm on breezy
[03:38] <eyequeue> sh0wtime:  'sudo route'
[03:38] <eyequeue> sh0wtime:  do you have a default route?
[03:38] <Jan_> bob2: It hasn't even turned the fans off this time.
[03:38] <sh0wtime> eyequeue: 1 sec.. had to reset
[03:38] <eyequeue> sh0wtime:  np
[03:38] <Jan_> What should I do now?
[03:39] <bob2> Jan_: it blanked but didn't shut down? did it print more stuff than last time? is the hard disk light on?
[03:39] <nalioth> Jan_: keep updating regularly
[03:39] <Jan_> Power light on, hard disk light off, nothing on screen.
[03:39] <bob2> Jan_: no hard disk activity at all?
[03:39] <Jan_> We're not sure whether it printed more stuff.
[03:39] <nalioth> Jan_: file or check the existence of a bug bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[03:40] <Jan_> A small amount of HD activity immediately after selecting "hibernate"
[03:40] <eyequeue> cevizoglu:  two values you may want to increase, master and pcm
[03:40] <Jan_> for 2-3 seconds
[03:40] <Jan_> Power light still on. Still no HD activity.
[03:41] <Bad_Magic> bob2: no luck
[03:41] <spermite> xsession needed?
[03:41] <eyequeue> cevizoglu:  sudo alsamixer, if you don't have easy gui access to them
[03:41] <azteech> took the plunge two days ago and got rid of M$ .. on this computer .. installed the pre-release of Ubuntu 5.10 ... are there other themes/desktops that can be installed beside the stock ones that come with 5.10? if so, where can they be obtained from?
[03:41] <bob2> Jan_: ok, that just sounds like a bug then
[03:41] <Bad_Magic> bob2: can you point me towards a splash that you know is valid so i can check if its that?
[03:41] <jake18> hello
[03:41] <Jan_> bob2: Bummer.
[03:41] <jake18> wats UR asl
[03:41] <bimberi> ubotu tell azteech about themes
[03:42] <eyequeue> jake18:  american sign language?  on irc?
[03:42] <matiu> I want to package my python program, which doesn't have a make file. What can I use instead of dh_make?
[03:42] <Jan_> Does anyone care about this bug, or would I be wasting my time reporting it
[03:42] <bob2> Jan_: if yo ucould file a bug on bugzilla.ubuntu.com that includes /var/log/dmesg, the fact you used /etc/acip/hibernate.sh and what you saw on the screen (oh, and the laptop model and such), that would be really cool
[03:42] <bob2> Jan_: people care a lot about laptop not working
[03:42] <matiu> Are there any other tutorials for creating debs that don't assume you have a makefile?
[03:42] <Jan_> Having it suspend to RAM would be even better
[03:42] <Jan_> as that's how it was usually used under windows.
[03:42] <selinium> Well time for bed, Good night all.
[03:42] <Jan_> but I understand that's much trickier.
[03:43] <csthepoet> hello everyone
[03:43] <TraceGreen> Hello, when i start "wine regedit" in linux, it shows some info, but i don't mount my windows system  yet, why does it have such info which seems my windows system has mounted?
[03:43] <MachineScrew> hello all
[03:43] <jake18> hello all
[03:43] <jake18> ctc
[03:43] <bob2> Jan_: "sudo /etc/acpi/sleep.sh" doesn't work?
[03:43] <eyequeue> Jan_:  i don't know which laptop you have, but yes, getting hibernate and suspecd working is something valuable
[03:43] <bob2> TraceGreen: wine has it's own fake registry, aiui
[03:43] <Jan_> bob2: Hang on. I'll tell you.
[03:44] <MachineScrew> why dosn't my battery monitor work ?
[03:44] <Jan_> eyequeue: It's a Toshiba Satellite SP10-304 rev 22.18
[03:44] <bob2> MachineScrew: does running "acpi -V" in a terminal give you reasonable-looking values?
[03:44] <Jan_> Very similar to models your laptop testing team have had success with
[03:44] <Jan_> oddly
[03:44] <MachineScrew> yes
[03:44] <TraceGreen> bob2, is the fake registry the same with my real registry if i mount my windows system?
[03:44] <jake18> hello
[03:44] <bob2> TraceGreen: no
[03:44] <eyequeue> Jan_:  mine differs, so i'm no help, but i'm sure that one is common enough to be worth diagnosing/fixing
[03:45] <TraceGreen> bob2, so, do you mean i just edit my fake registry in linux?
[03:45] <MachineScrew> but the GNOME batt mon don't work
[03:45] <boxerboy29> hi buttons
[03:45] <MachineScrew> didn't work in Horay eather
[03:45] <Cube-ness> anybody know? nvidia + 3d in latest breezy updates?
[03:45] <Buttons> hi boxer
[03:45] <bob2> TraceGreen: I don't know how you'd point regedit at the real one
[03:45] <Jan_> Cube-ness: I have a working nvidia driver on this lappy...
[03:45] <MachineScrew> I have a recent laptop as well
[03:45] <bob2> TraceGreen: I'd guess editing the wine config would be enough
[03:45] <bob2> Jan_: ah
[03:45] <Buttons> ?topic
[03:45] <TraceGreen> bob2, thanks!!
[03:45] <Cube-ness> Jan_, glx and all?
[03:45] <bob2> Jan_: with the binary drivers?
[03:46] <_jason> Jan_:  what does the hibernate do when you try it... I ahven't tried it on mine
[03:46] <Cube-ness> like i said, i tried last week and it didnt work
[03:46] <MachineScrew> so how about the damn battery monitor
[03:46] <Jan_> bob2: uh, no, I tried, but they asked for complicated things I couldn't give it (kernel source tree?)
[03:46] <Jan_> _jason: Locks it up with a black screen. It seems to half try to do it.
[03:46] <bob2> Jan_: ah, ok, thought that might have been related to the suspend issue
[03:47] <MachineScrew> never been able to get it to work slower Linux distros get it to work
[03:47] <jake18> hello
[03:47] <jake18> ctc
[03:47] <_jason> Jan_:  doesn't mess anything up right?  just need to rebooot... if not I'll give it a try
[03:47] <Jan_> we only installed them so the 3D screensavers wouldn't suck so bad :)
[03:47] <Jan_> _jason it's a hard reset, hold down the power button job
[03:47] <eyequeue> jake18:  do you have a question about ubuntu?
[03:47] <bob2> MachineScrew: it's worth filing a bug on bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[03:47] <_jason> Jan_:  oh ok
[03:47] <_jason> night everybody
[03:48] <Jan_> bob2: sleep.sh just echoes out a load of stuff, doesn't seem to do anything
[03:48] <MachineScrew> ya It is I have wanted to
[03:48] <coarsesalt> current issue - mplayer has stopped responding. Tried sudo killall mpalyer - it says mplayer:no process killed... anything else i can try?
[03:48] <Jan_> lots of "declare -x" stuff
[03:48] <linner> hey ya'll... i might have done this wrong... in order to get mplayer I have to add mutiverse and universe to my sources list right?
[03:48] <MachineScrew> just never knew where
[03:48] <boxerboy29> i filed a bug but they never commented on it :(
[03:48] <bimberi> linner: yes
[03:48] <boxerboy29> linner yes
[03:48] <eyequeue> linner:  then "update" yes
[03:48] <bob2> Jan_: when did you install this?
[03:48] <Jan_> ah. "/usr/share/acpi-support/power-funcs line 11 /proc//environ No such file or directory"
[03:48] <linner> eyequeue, maybe that's why i'm not getting mplayer though synaptic
[03:48] <linner> hmmm
[03:49] <Jan_> bob2: Earlier today
[03:49] <sh0wtime> eyequeue: i did sudo route.  what do i look for?
[03:49] <bob2> Jan_: hrm, I had that exact problem
[03:49] <boxerboy29> linner: mplayer is in the multiuniverse sources
[03:49] <eyequeue> linner:  in synaptic, "reload"
[03:49] <linner> boxerboy29, ok
[03:49] <Jan_> someone else told me to "echo 3 > /etc/acpi/sleep"
[03:49] <linner> eyequeue, got it
[03:49] <azteech> tks, bimberi
[03:49] <Jan_> which seemed to try to work
[03:49] <Ainvar> evening all... I have a short and quick question. How can I reinstall the ipw2200 drivers from the ubuntu breezy repos? Is there a specific package I need to use or reinstall?
[03:49] <eyequeue> sh0wtime:  the last line typically will indicate a default route
[03:49] <boxerboy29> :) i learned something today :)
[03:49] <linner> nope still isn't doin' it
[03:50] <linner> or getting what i need it to get anyway
[03:50] <bob2> Ainvar: why do you want to reinstall them?
[03:50] <linner> boxerboy29, how are you dear?
[03:50] <linner> :)
[03:50] <bimberi> azteech: yw :)
[03:50] <boxerboy29> linner i good thank you and your self?
[03:50] <linner> boxerboy29, oh quite dandy  :)
[03:50] <Ainvar> cause I need to, since for some reason when i recompiled them from scratch and then rm'd a dir in my downloads folder my wifi is no longer useable on my laptop
[03:50] <sh0wtime> eyequeue: first line under destination:  192.168.2.0  under it "default"
[03:51] <Ainvar> was working till I removed the directory
[03:51] <Jan_> bob2: further suggestions?
[03:51] <boxerboy29> linner: in synaptic try search on mplayer see if it brings up what your looking for
[03:51] <bob2> Ainvar: er, don't ever do that again
[03:51] <linner> that's what I did
[03:51] <jake18>  heloo
[03:51] <jake18> erewr
[03:51] <jake18> ewr
[03:51] <Ainvar> well I know this now :)
[03:51] <jake18> efsf
[03:51] <linner> boxerboy29, it only gives me one option which isn't mplayer
[03:51] <boxerboy29> buttons: how are you dear?
[03:51] <bob2> Ainvar: sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-$(uname -r)
[03:51] <eyequeue> sh0wtime:  okay, that indicates outbound packets should be roted through 192.168.2.0 (your router, probably)
[03:51] <Buttons> boxer im fine ty
[03:51] <Cube-ness> i still dont know if i got an answer.. are the nvidia nonfree drivers in the breezy repos yet?
[03:52] <coarsesalt> ack. lost in the crowd of mplayer fun. one more try. mplayer not responding. tried killall. no response. where do I go from here?
[03:52] <Ainvar> thank
[03:52] <Jan_> ACPI -V gives useful info :)
[03:52] <Ainvar> thanks*
[03:52] <eyequeue> sh0wtime:  scratch what i just said
[03:52] <bob2> coarsesalt: "not respsonding"?
[03:52] <sh0wtime> eyequeue:  well my router is set at 192.168.2.1 so what do i need to change
[03:52] <boxerboy29> linner : yoou have universe and multi set?
[03:52] <bob2> coarsesalt: does ps aux show it's running at all?
[03:52] <eyequeue> sh0wtime:  after the word default, an ip address should exist.  that's your default gateway
[03:52] <bob2> Jan_: no, sorry; I'd definitely file a bug about hibernate not working, tho, it works for pretty much everyone now
[03:52] <linner> boxerboy29, i thought that's what i just did in nano
[03:52] <linner> how do i bring up that file again?
[03:52] <Ainvar> bob2 after this is done and I reboot will I need to do anything more?
[03:53] <eyequeue> sh0wtime:  "default 192.168.2.1 ........"
[03:53] <boxerboy29> i dont knwo nano
[03:53] <coarsesalt> bob2: two tabs on the bottom. They will move back and forth, but I can't close them or use them
[03:53] <boxerboy29> ive only used it once
[03:53] <Jan_> bob2: but sleep is more tricky?
[03:53] <linner> never mind
[03:53] <boxerboy29> lol
[03:53] <linner> i found out how
[03:53] <Jan_> I'd have to open a new bugzilla account
[03:53] <Jan_> will anyone mind, I mean, I'm not really qualified to complain about software
[03:53] <sh0wtime> eyequeue: right thats what i put in network cnofig but i still cant ping anything? do i have to restart services someone first?
[03:53] <alwat> what;s the default root password
[03:53] <eyequeue> Jan_:  you're qualified :)  you use it and find problems :)
[03:53] <bob2> Ainvar: shouldn't need to
[03:54] <bob2> Ainvar: you don't even need to reboot, strictly speaking
[03:54] <coarsesalt> bob2: I beat it quite hard, i had real player, totem and mplayer trying to start things at the same time. I'm just wondering if I have an alternative to rebooting.
[03:54] <bob2> Jan_: if you include the stuff I mentioned, it will be a useful bug report, yes ;)
[03:54] <matiu> Can anyone point me to a packaging tutorial that doesn't assume I have a make file?
[03:54] <eyequeue> sh0wtime:  presuming your gateway is configured to accept from you (which seems likely) then i'm out of ideas, sorry
[03:54] <bob2> coarsesalt: ps aux | grep mplayer
[03:54] <Jan_> bob2: remind me
[03:54] <Ainvar> ok well it is reinstalled
[03:54] <bob2> coarsesalt: what does that print?
[03:54] <bimberi> alwat: there isn't one - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[03:54] <sh0wtime> ok tnx eyequeue.. argg
[03:54] <bob2> 11:42:17           bob2 | Jan_: if yo ucould file a bug on bugzilla.ubuntu.com that includes /var/log/dmesg, the fact you used /etc/acip/hibernate.sh and what you saw on the screen (oh, and the laptop model and such), that would be really cool
[03:54] <Ainvar> I turned off the wifi using my fn key and then turned it back on
[03:55] <linner> boxerboy29, i just ad multiverse wherever i see universe right?
[03:55] <zaphar_ps> sh0wtime: whats not working?
[03:55] <bob2> matiu: www.debian.org/devel, new maintainer's guide
[03:55] <boxerboy29> linner: no :(
[03:55] <Jan_> Is the sleep.sh thing a different issue?
[03:55] <eyequeue> zaphar_ps:  he can't ping out, even via ip
[03:55] <linner> boxerboy29, oh... :I
[03:55] <linner> crap
[03:55] <bob2> matiu: if mentions a makefile, but only because most software has one; you just need to build the software in the build target, and move everything to the right place in the install one
[03:55] <linner> boxerboy29, how might one do it?
[03:55] <Ainvar> ok the driver is loaded but it is now complaing about the firmware is Unable to load ucode
[03:55] <zaphar_ps> he on the same box he's chatting to us with?
[03:55] <boxerboy29> linner: i got mine off that ubuntuguide that ieveryone hates
[03:56] <sh0wtime> eyequeue: one last q.. would i have to restart network services?
[03:56] <Bad_Magic> so... still cant get the splashimage to work in grub =\
[03:56] <linner> boxerboy29, is it this link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[03:56] <coarsesalt> bob2: bunch of stuff i don't understand... I saw someone get shredded for copy and pasting earlier... how should i tell you about it? It does include the .TPB file I tried to watch. First Bunuel film. very odd movie.
[03:56] <eyequeue> sh0wtime:  you should not have to, but you can try
[03:56] <boxerboy29> linner nooooooooooo backports
[03:56] <linner> boxerboy29, oh?
[03:56] <bob2> coarsesalt: #flood
[03:56] <Ainvar> hmm but the firmware is there :9
[03:56] <Ainvar> very strage
[03:56] <linner> boxerboy29, it told me to add this:  deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[03:56] <Jan_> *fsss*
[03:56] <Jan_> Ahh :)
[03:57] <sh0wtime> eyequeue:  how do i do it in ubuntu?
[03:57] <boxerboy29> linner ppl keep saying backports bad they will mess your computer up
[03:57] <bolivar> I'm trying to install 5.10.  The installer appears to have a resize tool, but when I choose this options nothing happens.  The manual on the CD doesn't mention it from what I can see.  Does the CD have a resize tool or am I seeing things?
[03:57] <Jan_> bob2: The bugzilla wants a "package"
[03:57] <linner> oh ... well then why in crap is it in the guide!
[03:57] <Jan_> what do I put?
[03:57] <linner> :)
[03:57] <bob2> Jan_: linux or kernel, I forget
[03:57] <eyequeue> sh0wtime:  sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart, should work
[03:58] <bob2> bolivar: hit enter on the ntfs partition, and it should give you an option to resize it
[03:58] <Buttons> oh my im so confused
[03:58] <linner> boxerboy29, tell me how to get mplayer then... that's all i wanna do
[03:58] <sh0wtime> eyequeue k tnx again
[03:58] <FhaeTon> hello
[03:58] <coarsesalt> bob2: #flood - What is an overabundance of wetness? Alex - I'll take natural disasters for 400 please (what does this mean?)  :)
[03:58] <eyequeue> sh0wtime:  good luck
[03:58] <bob2> coarsesalt: heh, show us the output there
[03:58] <Mirussa> I thought it was the mirrormax backports that were bad not the offical ones
[03:58] <FhaeTon> i need some help please
[03:58] <C_J_Pro> anyone here know when the forums should be back up?
[03:58] <Bad_Magic> Can anyone help me get a splashimage going in grub?
[03:58] <Jan_> how do I get a definitive "which version am I running" report?
[03:58] <boxerboy29> anyone have site for multiuniverse sources?
[03:59] <bolivar> bob2: When I choose the resize option I don't get any options.  Should I select another option to resize?
[03:59] <Toma-> anyone know how to import the gnome menu to kde?
[03:59] <eyequeue> C_J_Pro:  down for maintenence, i would guess a few hours
[03:59] <liz4rd> hello everyone. i was doing a dist-upgrade to breezy and when ever it gets to scroolkeeper (what ever that is) i get this long error --> http://pastebin.ca/23904 any ideas
[03:59] <bob2> bolivar: hm, I don't know, sorry
[03:59] <bolivar> OK.
[03:59] <bob2> Jan_: "uname -r" will print the kernel version
[03:59] <Jan_> Is that what I should put in this report?
[03:59] <eyequeue> Jan_:  for a given package: "dpkg -l packagename" should list a version number
[03:59] <boxerboy29> linner: plz hold
[04:00] <linner>  boxerboy29 no woories
[04:00] <Jan_> I mean, what about the version of Ubuntu? I don't know which package this refers to
[04:00] <FhaeTon> I am unsuccessful installing unbunt
[04:00] <bob2> coarsesalt: sudo pkill gmplayer
[04:00] <thehil>  How do I link C library with C++ code?
[04:00] <cevizoglu> eyequeue, thanks, alsamixer did the trick
[04:00] <bob2> Jan_: hm, good point; you're using ubuntu 5.10, tho
[04:00] <Jan_> OK
[04:00] <eyequeue> cevizoglu:  glad to hear it
[04:00] <boxerboy29> linner can you im me please
[04:00] <Jan_> I did an update earlier this evening
[04:00] <bob2> thehil: same way you link C code to a C library
[04:00] <Jan_> does that make a difference?
[04:00] <bob2> thehil: assuming the code is C++-safe
[04:00] <linner> boxerboy29:  sure
[04:00] <Bad_Magic> bob2: any help with that splashimage?
[04:01] <bob2> Jan_: it's worth mentiong that you installed yesterday (or whenever) and upgraded tonight
[04:01] <bob2> Bad_Magic: I've never used it, soryrr
[04:01] <coarsesalt> bob2: thanks for that. I'll track down the explanation for why that works.
[04:01] <Bad_Magic> =\
[04:01] <teenie> bob: i allready installed my java.. tnx
[04:01] <MachineScrew> is there a way i can add a cron job to run acpi -V every second
[04:02] <eyequeue> MachineScrew:  cron jobs have a granularity of one minute, but even that is not advised
[04:02] <teenie> where i can find a windows xp theme for ubuntu?
[04:02] <MachineScrew> ok I need my battery monitor to update
[04:02] <MachineScrew> how would I get it to do that
[04:02] <bob2> coarsesalt: the program you ran was called gmplayer, not mplayer
[04:03] <eyequeue> MachineScrew:  i'm not the one to ask :(
[04:03] <MachineScrew> bob2 is there an easy way to get the batt mon to work
[04:04] <bob2> MachineScrew: filing a bug would be the simplest way
[04:04] <MachineScrew> i did
[04:04] <MachineScrew> it still don't work
[04:04] <MachineScrew> lol
[04:04] <teenie> where i can find a windows xp theme for ubuntu?
[04:04] <bimberi> teenie: great question! i don't know but you might find something here ...
[04:04] <bimberi> ubotu tell teenie about themes
[04:04] <Jan_> bob2: Should I put the problem with "sleep.sh" in the same report?
[04:05] <csthepoet> hey how do you become a super user on ubuntu? is it the same as fedora?
[04:05] <Jan_> It strikes me that's an entirely different issue.
[04:05] <cafuego_> teenie: kubuntu-desktop would contain a few no doubt.
[04:05] <eyequeue> csthepoet:  typically "sudo foo" runs foo as root
[04:05] <cafuego_> !tell csthepoet -about root
[04:05] <teenie> i alredy visit all the site for that theme..but i am trying to find right now is a windows look like
[04:05] <bob2> Jan_: I think it's a seperate problem, yeah
[04:05] <csthepoet> eyequeue, thanks i just finished installing ubuntu
[04:05] <bimberi> teenie: ah, ok :|
[04:06] <FaithX> Does anyone have 3 Netconnect card up and running in AU that could lend some help?
[04:06] <cafuego_> teenie: If you're after a windows look-aline, KDE is your best bet. (IT even crashes like windows ;-)
[04:06] <bimberi> lol cafuego_
[04:06] <eyequeue> csthepoet:  we tend to avoid using root expect when necessary, for security reasons, but the bot should have told you how to enable it if you really need
[04:06] <cafuego_> teenie: It will be a HUGE download though (like windows)
[04:06] <eyequeue> csthepoet:  s/expect/except/
[04:06] <teenie> and where i can find that?
[04:06] <csthepoet> eyequeue, well like to download a program like in yum don't i do it as root?
[04:06] <cafuego_> FaithX: Is that one of them roaming wireless pcmcia cards?
[04:07] <eyequeue> csthepoet: yum is what?  like dpkg?
[04:07] <zaphar_ps> csthepoet: you can use sudo
[04:07] <coarsesalt> bob2: yes. not sure why its gmplayer, but those commands you sent are obviously the key to figuring that stuff out... thanks.
[04:07] <FaithX> cafuego, yes it is
[04:07] <SpudDogg> !tell SpudDogg about pure-ftpd
[04:07] <csthepoet> eyequeue, no idea haha i'm pretty new to linux as it is, like if you want to download a program in ubuntu do youdo it in terminal?
[04:07] <cafuego_> FaithX: I obly ever played with one for about 15 mins....
[04:07] <teenie> how about plug-ins in vcd file?
[04:07] <eyequeue> csthepoet: whatever admin type programs you want for ubuntu are probably already installed :)  but system > admin > synaptic may be what you want :)
[04:08] <SpudDogg> !tell SpudDogg about pureadmin
[04:08] <teenie> cause until now i cannot play my vcd in my ubuntu
[04:08] <csthepoet> eyequeue, yea i checked that out too
[04:08] <cafuego_> FaithX; But I got ppp to connect at least (if not move actual data)
[04:08] <eyequeue> csthepoet:  that's the menu path to the gui app :)  in console you can do it also though
[04:08] <FaithX> csthepoet, well it all looks pretty good... it seems to do nearly all the work by itself...
[04:08] <eyequeue> csthepoet:  "sudo apt-get install packagename"
[04:08] <cafuego_> http://www.cafuego.net/index.php?offset=10
[04:08] <cycom> hey, how can I change vlc to be the default media player
[04:08] <csthepoet> eyequeue, great thanks
[04:09] <bimberi> ubotu tell cycom about defaultapp
[04:09] <FaithX> now I just need to figure howto route ppp through /dev/modem without any auth etc.
[04:09] <eyequeue> csthepoet:  "sudo" there means "do the following as if i was root"
[04:09] <cafuego_> FaithX: Check the first post at that utl, see if there's any additional info on google.
[04:09] <Jan_> bob2: How's this: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16344
[04:09] <csthepoet> eyequeue, k that makes sense
[04:09] <eyequeue> csthepoet:  it will ask you for your *user* password (not root password)
[04:09] <SpudDogg> anyone here good with pure-ftpd and pureadmin?
[04:09] <eyequeue> csthepoet:  only the first-created user has sudo access by default
[04:10] <cycom> bimberi: that's all well and good, but what if I want to change it without having a file of that type handy?
[04:10] <csthepoet> eyequeue, so i type sudo to go into root?
[04:10] <bimberi> cycom: ah, you've got me there sorry :|
[04:11] <_rb_> heyas, where do i get vcdimanager ?
[04:11] <eyequeue> csthepoet:  um, sudo is typically used on a per-command basis ... the command to change to another user (such as root) is "su"
[04:11] <_rb_> ( for making video cd's inb k3b
[04:11] <HrdwrBoB> erm
[04:11] <HrdwrBoB> eyequeue: sudo -s gives you a root shell
[04:11] <Ainvar> ok I have reinstall the kernel like I was told toget the ipw2200 drivers back, I have verified that the files for the firmware, drivers, and also the ieee80211 are there
[04:11] <eyequeue> HrdwrBoB:  true
[04:11] <_rb_> cept su is disabled in a default install of ubuntu
[04:11] <Jan_> Do people also care about sleep not working?
[04:11] <HrdwrBoB> Jan_: sleep works for me
[04:11] <csthepoet> eyequeue, that's what i though now when typing su it asks you for a password, isn't that the password you use to log into ubuntu?
[04:11] <Ainvar> I also did a dmesg looking for all three and everything is working except for the firmware
[04:12] <HrdwrBoB> Jan_: file a bug about it
[04:12] <Ainvar> any others ideas before I reboot?
[04:12] <Jan_> I would do but really
[04:12] <eyequeue> Jan_:  yes, though it isn't usually viewed as being as critical
[04:12] <Jan_> is it worth it
[04:12] <Jan_> It's just that it seems to HALF work.
[04:12] <_rb_> anyone on the vcdi thing ?
[04:12] <HrdwrBoB> possibly not
[04:12] <zaphar_ps> _rb_: it takes about 2 seconds to enable it
[04:12] <Jan_> Which is a pisser because... you know. Poeple have already done the work, it'd be nice if it was functional.
[04:12] <betaguygzt> hello everyone
[04:12] <eyequeue> csthepoet:  su - otheruser, if you have a few users set up, heh .... "sudo -s" will get you that root shell you want, as HrdwrBoB mentioned
[04:12] <betaguygzt> what happened to the ubuntu forums ?
[04:12] <HrdwrBoB> Jan_: file it anyway
[04:13] <Ainvar> I would love for my suspend and hybernate to work on my dell i6000d but I know there are still issues with it
[04:13] <eyequeue> betaguygzt:  maintenence
[04:13] <betaguygzt> aha
[04:13] <betaguygzt> ok good
[04:13] <betaguygzt> ty muchly
[04:13] <betaguygzt> :)
[04:13] <csthepoet> eyequeue, and how could i get that password or set it up
[04:13] <betaguygzt> second dumb question
[04:13] <linuxmonkey> bob2,  just wanted to let you know thanks :)
[04:13] <betaguygzt> are the repositories going to be back up soon?
[04:14] <Jan_> did I do a decent job on that last bug report?
[04:14] <HrdwrBoB> I bought my laptop specifically because I knew it was supported :)
[04:14] <Jan_> I don't want to crap it up
[04:14] <HrdwrBoB> Jan_: looks good to me
[04:14] <betaguygzt> I got a friend of mine trying outUbuntu and I needed to update his machine
[04:14] <HrdwrBoB> Jan_: if more info is needed, it'll be asked
[04:14] <eyequeue> csthepoet:  there is not one, this is for your protection.   set one up by "sudo -s" (now you're root) then "passwd" (as root) to set root's password
[04:14] <csthepoet> eyequeue, wait never mind seei'm trying to compare this all to fedora
[04:14] <linuxmonkey> bob2, i am now speaking to you from a wifi connection, hopefully my apps will work but atleast I got wifi
[04:14] <eyequeue> csthepoet:  yeah, typically i'd say ask this in a week, after getting used to using sudo in ubuntu :)
[04:14] <Jan_> OK, next glitch.
[04:15] <betaguygzt> anyway, thanks everyone. cheers!
[04:15] <Jan_> I installed gxine because totem was being crappy playing DVDs.
[04:15] <Jan_> It works, but it doesn't seem to handle mp3.
[04:15] <csthepoet> eyequeue, see that's another thing my best friend who set up linux for me did all this stuff and i didn't see it so now i'm actually learning
[04:15] <_rb_> anyone had success with creating vcd's in k3b ?
[04:15] <eyequeue> csthepoet:  set the root password if youi like, but do try to do things TheUbuntuWay a bit if you can, we think it's safer :)
[04:16] <Jan_> Gxine displays correct info about the mp3, but the progress bar and timer increment way too fast
[04:16] <Jan_> and no sound is generated
[04:16] <eyequeue> csthepoet:  learning (imo) is always good, even the hard way :/
[04:16] <Jan_> DVD playback works fine, for reference.
[04:16] <hari`> How do you go about working around dumb version number naming problems like this?  "Depends: libgcc1 (>= 1:4.0.0-7) but 1:4.0-0pre6ubuntu7 is to be installed"
[04:16] <eyequeue> csthepoet:  i like browsing /usr/share/doc/* for it though, a bit safer :)
[04:16] <jake18> hello
[04:17] <izak30> can someone help me with sound issues with a thinkpad 600e, i need alsa config or something, and i need to load a module which doesn't appear to be installed
[04:17] <zaphar_ps> anyone know how to stop konqueror from opening everything up in a tab?
[04:17] <bob2> linuxmonkey: yay
[04:17] <csthepoet> eyequeue, so now if i want to look for a program how would i do that in root?
[04:17] <Jan_> WAV files play OK...
[04:17] <Jan_> why no mp3?
[04:17] <Jan_> does it need a separate codec or something?
[04:18] <eyequeue> csthepoet:  i'd do it as user, to find a program for "foo" i'd type "apt-cache search foo | less"
[04:18] <alexandros> hello, can someone help get video when I play wvx files right now I only get audio no matter what I use
[04:18] <f00li5h> zaphar_ps: it's under settings - configure konqueror
[04:18] <eyequeue> csthepoet:  in gui, you can use the search feature of synaptic, but i'm a commandline junkie
[04:18] <f00li5h> in behaboiur
[04:18] <bob2> Jan_: looks great, thanks!
[04:18] <Jan_> just out of interest, why are YOU thanking me? :)
[04:19] <csthepoet> eyequeue, yea i'm the same i think you get better results that way
[04:19] <hari`> Anyone have a source that fixes this?  "Depends: libgcc1 (>= 1:4.0.0-7) but 1:4.0-0pre6ubuntu7 is to be installed"
[04:19] <bob2> Jan_: by filing a good bug like that, it means it can be fixed for everyone else with your hardware
[04:20] <eyequeue> csthepoet:  apt-cache search will get you a list off apps, if one looks interesting, apt-cache show packagename | less
[04:20] <bob2> hari`: don't install Debian .debs on ubuntu
[04:20] <eyequeue> s/off/of/
[04:20] <bimberi> Jan_: doing good bug reports is a valuable part of the Free Software community :)
[04:20] <Jan_> how community minded of you :)
[04:20] <bob2> and what bimberi said
[04:20] <bob2> hah
[04:20] <bimberi> hehe
[04:20] <hari`> bob2, I'm trying to install an ubuntu deb, but it must be some breezy thing without announcing it.
[04:20] <eyequeue> Jan_:  caring enough to write a good bug report is a commendable activity :)  we all win then
[04:20] <bob2> hari`: where is it from?
[04:20] <Amaranth> are the forums down?
[04:21] <Jan_> How fast can I expect a response to that? Weeks? Months?
[04:21] <linuxmonkey> bob2, you know of any wifi linux tools, like netstunbler is for windows
[04:21] <Jan_> 'cos basically, we'll be hanging on for a fix.
[04:21] <bob2> linuxmonkey: kismet
[04:21] <eyequeue> Amaranth:  maint
[04:21] <izak30> kismet for wifi
[04:21] <Jan_> it's going to be a pain not to have it working
[04:21] <hari`> bob2, cinelerra is the package, and the website gave the source line for ubuntu, but didn't say hoary or breezy or anything.
[04:21] <csthepoet> eyequeue, ok so let's say i want to search for mplayer then i type  apt-cache search mplayer?
[04:21] <izak30> airsnort and airsniff as well for wifi linux monkey
[04:21] <Jan_> ew, cinelerra
[04:21] <Bicchi> Is there a way to get a software that is in Breezy without having to upgrade to Breezy first? For now I am still using Hoary.
[04:21] <bob2> !+info libgcc1 hoary
[04:22] <ubotu> libgcc1: (GCC support library), section libs, is required. Version: 1:4.0-0pre6ubuntu7 (hoary), Packaged size: 79 kB, Installed size: 160 kB
[04:22] <izak30> can someone help me with sound issues with a thinkpad 600e, i need alsa config or something, and i need to load a module which doesn't appear to be installed
[04:22] <bob2> hari`: even breezy doesn't have that libgcc1 version
[04:22] <eyequeue> csthepoet:  that will get you the packages that list mplayer in their longdescripions, yes
[04:22] <Jan_> OK, next problem. Why no mp3?
[04:22] <Jan_> I want my MTV goddammit
[04:22] <bob2> csthepoet: note that mplayer is not available with the default sources.list config
[04:22] <bob2> Jan_: totem can't play them by default, but gxine certainly should be able to
[04:22] <eyequeue> csthepoet:  then if you see one you like (called mplayer-586 let's say) apt-cache show mplayer-586
[04:22] <hari`> bob2, guess they're on crack; seems that a lot of people hit it for several media-related programs, if google is any indication.
[04:22] <Amaranth> Bicchi: you can see if the packages are in backports
[04:23] <bob2> ah
[04:23] <csthepoet> eyequeue, ok perfect thanks
[04:23] <Jan_> bob2: it seems to try
[04:23] <bob2> !+info cinelerra breezy
[04:23] <ubotu> Package 'cinelerra' does not exist.
[04:23] <bob2> hm
[04:23] <Jan_> Plus I'd like to associate them with gxine
[04:23] <phil_> http://www.warpmod.com/dev/Tortel/
[04:23] <Bicchi> Amaranth: i have backports enabled and i couldn't find it.
[04:23] <eyequeue> csthepoet:  apt-cache show should give you more details about a package than you want :)
[04:23] <phil_> if i'm running an athlon machine whihc kernel is better i686 or k7
[04:23] <Jan_> at the moment you have to launch it manuallyt
[04:23] <Amaranth> Bicchi: Then it probably isn't available.
[04:23] <Buddha|> !+info openbox breezy
[04:23] <ubotu> openbox: (standards compliant, fast, light-weight, extensible window manager), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 3.2-7 (breezy), Packaged size: 192 kB, Installed size: 916 kB
[04:23] <bob2> phil_: k7
[04:23] <cafuego_> phil_: k7
[04:24] <Bicchi> Amaranth: yeah but is there a way to still get it using apt-get. like to force it to download and install
[04:24] <csthepoet> eyequeue, is nothing shows up then it means that their isnt any applications with that name?
[04:24] <phil_> bob2: what the kernel is compiled with some 3d now features?
[04:24] <eyequeue> csthepoet:  nothing with your *current* sources.list entries
[04:24] <Amaranth> Bicchi: Like hand editing configuration files?
[04:24] <B_166-ER-X> is there a way to run starcraft on ubuntu..other than with Wine (wich is really slow) ?
[04:24] <bob2> phil_: that's a bit of a red herring, but k7 would
[04:25] <rob^> !cedega
[04:25] <ubotu> methinks cedega is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega
[04:25] <cafuego_> B_166-ER-X: No.
[04:25] <B_166-ER-X> arr
[04:25] <rob^> B_166-ER-X, try that
[04:25] <capiCrimm> where is the sudo file?
[04:25] <phil_> bob2: what should i use to benchmark
[04:25] <csthepoet> eyequeue, ok is ubuntu the only linux system youhave used?
[04:25] <eyequeue> csthepoet:  no
[04:25] <cafuego_> B_166-ER-X: Note that cedega is just a version of wine.
[04:25] <Bicchi> Amaranth: I'll just get the sources then. its about the same degree of dificulty
[04:25] <B_166-ER-X> hm
[04:25] <eyequeue> capiCrimm:  you probably want /etc/sudoers
[04:25] <rob^> yes, but for games
[04:25] <csthepoet> eyequeue, which ones have you tried?
[04:25] <eyequeue> csthepoet:  debian and slackware
[04:25] <B_166-ER-X> hm
[04:25] <B_166-ER-X> ok
[04:25] <bob2> phil_: benchmark what? the kernel?
[04:25] <Amaranth> Bicchi: man apt_preferences
[04:25] <csthepoet> eyequeue, you like ubuntu best?
[04:25] <eyequeue> csthepoet:  so far, yes :)
[04:26] <phil_> bob2: yep
[04:26] <Bicchi> Amaranth: ok thanks
[04:26] <bob2> phil_: I don't know of anything for that
[04:26] <cafuego_> Why would you benchmark the kernel?
[04:26] <eyequeue> csthepoet:  yggdrasil was fun, in it's time, heh
[04:26] <bob2> I'm not even really sure what you mean
[04:26] <csthepoet> eyequeue, ubuntu seems easier or more like their is less stuff to deal with
[04:26] <Jan_> xine tries to play some mp3s
[04:26] <Jan_> doesn't even try on others
[04:26] <linuxmonkey> bob2, guess i'll hqave to fork out some $ to buy a card that will work with kismet and others without using ndiswrapper
[04:26] <phil_> cafuego: to see the difference between i686 and k7 kernel on the same machine
[04:26] <eyequeue> csthepoet:  less stuff unless you like to poke under the hood, then you can still do that.  best of both worlds
[04:27] <csthepoet> eyequeue, i got used to fedora but i was having a prob with it and my laptop
[04:27] <cafuego_> phil_: Negligable.
[04:27] <bob2> linuxmonkey: my ipw2100 works fine with it, as do all prism-based cards
[04:27] <rob^> just use bmp/xmms/rhythmbox etc for mp3s
[04:27] <bob2> linuxmonkey: I gather ipw2200 works fine, too
[04:27] <eyequeue> bob2:  ipw2200 here, no complaints
[04:27] <phil_> cafuego: thanks
[04:27] <janne_Newbie> hi....i have some problem...
[04:27] <linuxmonkey> yea, ndiswrapper sucks, its usefull to get u online on wifi but u can do squat with it
[04:27] <bob2> eyequeue: do you have many of the "firmware lockup, restarting" errors?
[04:28] <B_166-ER-X> .wmv file that i know works are not playing, even if i have the wvm support (on mplayer)
[04:28] <Strog> Jan_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats <-- scroll down for mp3
[04:28] <janne_Newbie> I just updatet my ubuntu and it tried to update firefox packages.....but it didnt succeed...
[04:28] <bob2> janne_Newbie: you're using backports?
[04:28] <janne_Newbie> yes...also
[04:28] <eyequeue> bob2:  i had them with an earlier kernel, i recall, and seem to have some issues with suspend to disk inconsistently that i never tracked down
[04:28] <rob^> Strog, looks like ubotu is out of date, I just got through rewriting that page
[04:28] <bob2> janne_Newbie: read the channel /topic
[04:29] <bob2> eyequeue: ah, right
[04:29] <eyequeue> bob2:  and to ram never worked, heh
[04:29] <bob2> like ipw2100 a year ago then :)
[04:29] <rob^> grr
[04:29] <Jan_> Strog: I've been looking at that
[04:29] <Jan_> but it's not helpful
[04:29] <Strog> and you installed k3b-mp3?
[04:30] <Jan_> Nope.
[04:30] <rob^> bob2, that topic is a little bit over the top
[04:30] <janne_Newbie> k....but now firefox dont let me go internet at all....tries to load but thats it...
[04:30] <Jan_> But this seems to assume I'm using Totem.
[04:30] <Jan_> I would be using Totem if it worked.
[04:30] <bob2> rob^: yeah, I don't know who set it
[04:30] <Strog> Jan_: It installs the codec with it
[04:30] <eyequeue> --- Topic for #ubuntu set by Seveas at Sun Sep 25 16:18:37 2005
[04:31] <rob^> cool
[04:31] <Jan_> all it mentions is mp3 ripping and encoding
[04:31] <Jan_> I don't want to do either
[04:31] <rob^> I just rewrote restrictedformats using the unofficial backports to get w32codecs and others
[04:31] <nihi1> sti cazzi!
[04:31] <rob^> currently its the best method
[04:31] <cafuego_> Unofficial backports? Is that at all a good idea?
[04:31] <Jan_> Christ it's 23 megs?
[04:31] <Amaranth> rob^: Except that iirc the unofficial backports doesn't have w32codecs and java anymore.
[04:32] <rob^> cafuego, know of a better way?
[04:32] <janne_Newbie> is it bad to get rid of firefox? and install it again....?
[04:32] <bob2> it's way way way way way way way simpler for people to just get the w32codecs deb and install it with dpkg
[04:32] <eyequeue> janne_Newbie:  that tinyurl mentioned in the /topic will walk you through it safely
[04:32] <rob^> java doesn't use backports on that page anyway, as for w32codecs that must be new
[04:32] <cafuego_> rob^: Not offhand, but unofficial backports leads to pain and users asking how to fix shit here ;-)
[04:33] <paulproteus> bob2: My friends would much rather use Synaptic than a terminal.
[04:33] <janne_Newbie> i cant use any urls bec my firefox dont go internet....bec i updated ubuntu...
[04:33] <rob^> cafuego, have a read of the page, it explains exactly what to do
[04:33] <Jan_> I'm confused. As regards flash "there is no free implementation"
[04:33] <Strog> Jan_: Sorry about that. Guess it was talking decoding in the context of k3b. I can play mp3 just fine on my breezy install but it's ppc and I'm not sure if there's something different
[04:33] <rob^> ie remove it when done
[04:33] <eyequeue> janne_Newbie:  apt-get install lynx :)
[04:33] <janne_Newbie> something went wrong in firefox...
[04:33] <janne_Newbie> k
[04:33] <cafuego_> paulproteus: if the syanptic way potentially causes breakage where dpkjg does nopt, they should get over themselves.
[04:33] <janne_Newbie> lets try
[04:33] <darkbutterfly> edit your source list
[04:33] <Strog> eyequeue: nah, links2 so you can use links -g. :)
[04:33] <ksmurf> Is there a way to autenticate other repo's for sources.list?
[04:34] <nihi1> ahoooo 'mbariii!!
[04:34] <nihi1> macchi spacchiufai?
[04:34] <eyequeue> ksmurf:  apt-key?
[04:34] <bob2> paulproteus: yeah
[04:34] <ksmurf> ayequeue.... apt-key?
[04:34] <bob2> crappy situation, I guess
[04:34] <Jan_> Yay, there's an iTMS replacement for linux!
[04:34] <Jan_> Yaaay!
[04:34] <GregAsche> is there a way to have two clocks displayed in the date and time corner?
[04:34] <janne_Newbie> thanks for that....i come back soon...i think..=)
[04:34] <eyequeue> ksmurf:  man apt-key should give details
[04:35] <ksmurf> k thanks
[04:36] <cafuego_> Yuckly i386-only info
[04:36] <Orborde> Is something wrong with the Ubuntu forums?
[04:36] <khermans> who needs help?
[04:36] <eyequeue> Orbman:  maintenence
[04:36] <khermans> Orborde, yes it is down on and off
[04:36] <wthanna> I have just installed Enlightenment 16. It does not show up as a "session" option to login to. What do I need to do?
[04:36] <VoX> any idea when vlc is going to be available for amd64 in breezy?
[04:36] <khermans> VoX, i had it installed
[04:36] <janne_Newbie> what was that lynx...............?
[04:37] <khermans> VoX, it should be there
[04:37] <janne_Newbie> i just installed it and i get my firefox back....(?)
[04:37] <darkbutterfly> i need some help getting my sound to work in breezy
[04:37] <darkbutterfly> it didn't work in hoary either.
[04:37] <VoX> khermans: it's there, with 5 unresolvable dependencies
[04:37] <eyequeue> janne_Newbie:  an alternative web browser, works in console (if your x dies)
[04:37] <Orborde> Is there any way I can run a 64-bit kernel but a mostly 32-bit environment?
[04:37] <khermans> VoX, what are they?
[04:37] <nihi1> a text-based web browser janne_Newbie
[04:37] <Orborde> I want to set up 32-bit Ubuntu because everything works in 32-bit.
[04:37] <drogoh> Orborde, I highly doubt it.
[04:37] <darkbutterfly> i have a gateway solo 2500, and the sound card is a neomagic 256
[04:38] <VoX> Orborde: run the 64-bit kernel and chroot the 32bit things you need to run
[04:38] <Orborde> But I want to leave open the possibility of setting up a 64-bit chroot or something later.
[04:38] <khermans> Orborde, 640bit is aproblem because of closed source
[04:38] <nihi1> siti puppi!
[04:38] <darkbutterfly> can anyone help me?
[04:38] <[klined] > how do i send files to other windows users in gaim, it fails each time
[04:38] <janne_Newbie> but why it made my firefox work properly? Before that fox didnt launch....
[04:38] <cafuego_> Orborde: You can't. it only works the other way around.
[04:38] <Jan_> gxine says "error loading library qtml.dll"
[04:38] <khermans> darkbutterfly, do you get any errors?
[04:38] <Jan_> I thought DLLs were a Windows thing
[04:38] <eyequeue> [klined] :  one protocol worked, one didnt ... try aim or yahoo
[04:38] <Orborde> cafuego_: I'm thinking of a 64-bit kernel, but everything else is 32-bit.
[04:38] <khermans> darkbutterfly, what is this a laptop, ibook, desktop PC, etc?
[04:38] <MachineScrew> any one who wants to upgrade to breezy
[04:38] <MachineScrew> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade?highlight=%28Breezy%29
[04:39] <eyequeue> [klined] :  then try the other
[04:39] <darkbutterfly> not when i do a modprobe, but when i do alsamixer, it says no sound device
[04:39] <janne_Newbie> ok....but thanks for that lynx info.....
[04:39] <darkbutterfly> it's a laptop
[04:39] <Necrosan> What is Colony 5?
[04:39] <khermans> Orborde, ask yourself why you need 64-bits first
[04:39] <janne_Newbie> bye all!!!
[04:39] <Strog> Jan_: They arer. It's using the windows codecs to play quicktime
[04:39] <Orborde> cafuego_: Right now I have a 64-bit kernel and userspace, with a 32bit chroot set up for Firefox and whatnot to work.
[04:39] <Necrosan> What's the diff between this & regular ubuntu breezy?
[04:39] <[klined] > eyeque: you mean have them log onto yahoo?
[04:39] <nihi1> addio coglioni!!!
[04:39] <eyequeue> Necrosan:  fifth prerelease version
[04:39] <cafuego_> Orborde: Yes. 64bit can run 32bit. 32bit can NOT run 64bit.
[04:39] <VoX> khermans: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2527
[04:39] <khermans> Orborde, is having 0.00005 better speed in very few applications worht the user headache?
[04:40] <Necrosan> oh fuck
[04:40] <Necrosan> I downloaded the regular 5.10 from the homepage
[04:40] <eyequeue> Necrosan:  each cd is a snapshot, breezy is presently a dynamic target
[04:40] <Necrosan> can i update &  be just as advanced?
[04:40] <cafuego_> khermans: There is no user headache. Flash is shit, so not missed, same for java applets.
[04:40] <Orborde> cafuego_: So set up a 32-bit apps/etc. files and just run a 64-bit kernel.
[04:40] <Jan_> gxine seems to play absolutely anything EXCEPT mp3
[04:40] <[klined] > java applets are great
[04:40] <khermans> VoX, do you have the additional repos added?
[04:40] <Jan_> including AVIs with mp3 soundtracks
[04:40] <Orborde> cafuego_: Not everyone agrees with that.
[04:40] <drogoh> Curious, does the Hoary DVD image have no kernel support for SATA?
[04:40] <cafuego_> Orborde: In theory the 32bit apps cna run under the 64bit system.
[04:40] <rob^> ok, I removed backports from RestrictedFormats, but had to keep a way to get w32codecs
[04:40] <khermans> cafuego, yes there is, dont lie
[04:40] <darkbutterfly> alsa says it's supported, and it's also supported by oss.  but i have to use commercial oss drivers, and i don't like doing that.
[04:40] <khermans> cafuego, i ran 64-but many times
[04:40] <greg> anyone know where a howto for firefox 1.5beta on breezy is?
[04:40] <cafuego_> khermans: No, there aren't.
[04:40] <rob^> and added information on the decss installer in ubuntu
[04:40] <VoX> khermans: define "additional repos"
[04:41] <eyequeue> Necrosan:  i recommend just trying that, then doing an upgrade online with it
[04:41] <Jan_> OK, I installed that mp3 thing
[04:41] <Jan_> and still no playback.
[04:41] <Jan_> Any more suggestions?
[04:41] <khermans> cafuego, what if I am a Java programmer or java consumer?
[04:41] <bob2> greg: download binary tarball from mozilla.org. untar in your home dir.  run the firefox binary.
[04:41] <Orborde> What repo is ndiswrapper in?
[04:41] <MachineScrew> so is there an easy way to get w32codecs in breezy
[04:41] <eyequeue> Necrosan: unless you're planning on distributing multiple copies of the image or something
[04:41] <rob^> MachineScrew, kind of
[04:41] <rob^> check out:
[04:41] <MachineScrew> ok
[04:41] <khermans> VoX, in your sourcs.list file
[04:41] <darkbutterfly> is anybody gonna help me with the sound here?
[04:41] <bur[n] er> anyone know how to get the rounded corners to be transparent instead of writing a rectangle in metacity??
[04:41] <cafuego_> khermans: Java applications work fine.
[04:41] <rob^> !codecs
[04:41] <ubotu> codecs is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[04:42] <greg> bob2, complains about error while loading shared libraries: libmozjs.so
[04:42] <VoX> khermans: yes, i meant /which/ additional repos? :)
[04:42] <khermans> cafuego, no they dont -- the 64-bit JVM crashes all the time
[04:42] <wthanna> Can someone tell me why, after installing E16
[04:42] <bob2> greg: is that file i nthe tarball?
[04:42] <glyn> I accidentally removed the trash from the panel how do I get it back?
[04:42] <cafuego_> khermans: All Java applications I use work _fine_.
[04:42] <khermans> cafuego, try a 64-bit JVM in extended usage
[04:42] <bob2> glyn: right click, add applet, select it
[04:42] <rob^> Amaranth, the java section is from the FAQ Guide
[04:42] <Orborde> khermans: I've never had the 64-bit JVM crash, but hey.
[04:42] <rob^> slightly reworded
[04:43] <Hikaru79> Are Ubuntu Forums down right now or is it just me?
[04:43] <khermans> Orborde, try running eclipse
[04:43] <greg> bob2, uhh yeah. the tarball is fine. checked md5
[04:43] <Amaranth> rob^: *shudder*
[04:43] <DonL> Here I am back in Warty after a failed upgrade from Hoary to Breezy
[04:43] <rob^> Amaranth, ?
[04:43] <cafuego_> There is no eclipse in amd64 breezy.
[04:43] <Orborde> khermans: What is eclipse?
[04:43] <bob2> greg: the file is in the tarball?
[04:43] <glyn> where do I rightclick?
[04:43] <bob2> glyn: on the panel
[04:43] <trigger_ph> is it advisable to import true type fonts from a windows system?
[04:43] <bob2> trigger_ph: if you want to
[04:44] <phil_> How do you guys follow the current conversation so much chatter in here shall we not create sub-channels like #ubuntu-media #ubuntu-installing ....
[04:44] <Hikaru79> trigger_ph, look into msttcorefonts
[04:44] <cafuego_> Well, not one that can actually install.
[04:44] <khermans> VoX, use the "main restricted universe multiverse" reops
[04:44] <glyn> that's not working
[04:44] <Hikaru79> phil_, you get used to it, honest :P
[04:44] <Amaranth> rob^: http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/log.php
[04:44] <Jan_> Yay
[04:44] <Jan_> mp3!
[04:44] <khermans> cafuego, how do you run the Adobe Acrobat product in 64-bit?
[04:44] <phil_> Hikaru79: My kids do this to me asking 25 questions a sec I can't use to this
[04:44] <glyn> there is just preferences help about remove from panel and lock to panel
[04:44] <fungku> Can I get some help obtaining an IP address with dhcp (using wireless network)?
[04:44] <cafuego_> khermans: I run Evince.
[04:44] <rob^> Amaranth, we never used java from backports
[04:45] <khermans> cafuego, and how do you view encrypted PDFs?
[04:45] <cafuego_> khermans: i have no need for proprietary software.
[04:45] <Amaranth> rob^: They removed w32codecs too.
[04:45] <Orborde> phil_: Directing your comments helps.
[04:45] <cafuego_> khermans: I decrypt them first.
[04:45] <trigger_ph> bob2: ubuntu seems to have pre-classified all true type fonts into corresponding directories, unlike windows, whch places all of them in one
[04:45] <bob2> phil_: because then you'd split the available helpers 8 ways
[04:45] <khermans> cafuego, you may not, but other users will
[04:45] <rob^> Amaranth, yep, fixed that one up
[04:45] <bob2> phil_: and there are already not enough
[04:45] <khermans> cafuego, how many people know how to do that
[04:45] <eyequeue> doesn't evince handle encrypted pdfs
[04:45] <[klined] > hm
[04:45] <phil_> bob2: U do make a point
[04:45] <[klined] > aim for linux can't even send stuff to people with aim
[04:45] <glyn> can someone help me get my trash can back on the panel?
[04:45] <Hikaru79> phil_, in that case, the forums and mailing lists give quality support at a slower pace.
[04:45] <Orborde> fungku: What's your problem? DHCP is supposed to do it automatically.
[04:45] <glyn> oh wait
[04:45] <bob2> trigger_ph: yeah, doesn't really matter, tho
[04:45] <glyn> I was clicking on something else
[04:45] <[klined] > lol
[04:45] <bob2> glyn: you need to click on the actual panel
[04:45] <glyn> wrong spot
[04:45] <bob2> glyn: not on an applet
[04:46] <fungku> I've got wireless working if i define an IP address, but I want to obtain it from my router, which doesn't work.
[04:46] <fungku> I'm not sure why
[04:46] <trigger_ph> bob2: great..thanks again!
[04:46] <eyequeue> glyn:  you have a mouse?  right-click on the panel
[04:46] <khermans> Orborde, eclipse is a Java-based IDE
[04:46] <bob2> trigger_ph: ~/.fonts/ is simplest if you habve only a single user
[04:46] <Jan_> Hm.
[04:46] <Hikaru79> Are Ubuntu Forums down right now or is it just me?
[04:46] <Jan_> Lots of my MP3s crash gxine
[04:46] <bob2> fungku: does it work for other machines
[04:46] <cafuego_> khermans: With *breezy* software there is no problem on amd64. if you mix in 3rd party shit, god knows what kind of problems you get.
[04:46] <bob2> Hikaru79: down
[04:46] <eyequeue> glyn:  press the plus to add
[04:46] <Orborde> Hikaru79: Yes.
[04:46] <fungku> bob2: yes
[04:46] <Hikaru79> bob2, thanks :( Was worried about that.
[04:46] <[klined] > bob2: you would be my hero if you told me what program could send stuff to people with aim
[04:46] <khermans> cafuego, yes -- the problem is that people need these applications
[04:46] <eyequeue> glyn:  select the trash can
[04:46] <cafuego_> khermans: In 80% of cases people only *think* they need them.
[04:47] <Jan_> Uhon
[04:47] <khermans> cafuego, i agree with you that we should all push for OSS, but in the mean time, there are no alternatives on other platforms
[04:47] <Jan_> No VLC binaries for Ubuntu.
[04:47] <Orborde> cafuego_: Example?
[04:47] <Jan_> Should I use the Debian ones?
[04:47] <cafuego_> khermans: .. and get extremely defensive when you tell them there's a different way of doing things.
[04:47] <DonL> seems like lots of people are running breezy. Took me about 3 hours to make sure I had it all, but something's missing. No X
[04:47] <fungku> I have 2 windows machines which obtain an IP address with dhcp fine
[04:47] <bob2> [klined] : gaim, presumably
[04:47] <khermans> cafuego, hehe that is true
[04:47] <fungku> but ubunto won't for some reason
[04:47] <khermans> cafuego, because they realize they have wasted a lot of time
[04:47] <[klined] > bob2: you'd think so aye? lol, no luck man
[04:47] <fungku> ubuntu, even
[04:47] <bur[n] er> awww... nevermind my earlier comment about rounded corners... it seems the other modules for xorg.conf do a lot of good stuff :)
[04:47] <bob2> [klined] : where no luck = ?
[04:48] <trigger_ph> bob2: ok i don't have ~/.fonts yet, so i'll just mkdir one?
[04:48] <eyequeue> bob2:  i think gaim handles it for yahoo, but fails for the aim protocol
[04:48] <bob2> fungku: is it MAC-locked?
[04:48] <bob2> eyequeue: ah
[04:48] <[klined] > bob2: gaim has no luck sending/receiving with my buddy
[04:48] <Orborde> cafuego_: Demanding that people change applications as well only adds to trouble.
[04:48] <bob2> [klined] : maybe pork would work, I don't know
[04:48] <cafuego_> Orborde: Sugegsting, not demanding. New cheese is good.
[04:48] <Jan_> "open with" doesn't seem to work too well
[04:48] <bob2> trigger_ph: yes
[04:48] <[klined] > bob2: what if I'm jewish?
[04:48] <Orborde> [klined] : Are either of you behind a NAT? That supposedly causes problems.
[04:48] <[klined] > my firewall is disabled
[04:48] <fungku> bob2: I turned mac-address locking off for my wireless access point, but I haven't checked the router...
[04:48] <Orborde> cafuego_: The problem is helping them get alternatives.
[04:48] <khermans> VoX, http://www.nanocrew.net/?p=129
[04:48] <eyequeue> bob2:  typically an aim user has already installed yahoo messenger too :)
[04:49] <Orborde> cafuego_: Or rather, find out that they exist.
[04:49] <[klined] > what ports does aim use? never had a problem in windows with it, so I assume my router is set up right for it
[04:49] <satafterh> I just downloaded the latest version of zsnes but cant find install instructions can some one help??
[04:49] <cafuego_> Orborde: That can be hard when peple say "Fuck off, I want to fix things in  away that won't work"
[04:49] <[klined] > satafterh: if it's the source ./configure;make;make install
[04:49] <bob2> eyequeue: hah
[04:49] <khermans> cafuego, linux is not for the masses
[04:49] <bob2> satafterh: what's wrong with zsnes in ubuntu?
[04:50] <khermans> cafuego, ... in its current state
[04:50] <Jan_> Crikey
[04:50] <Orborde> [klined] : AIM uses 5190 a lot, I think.
[04:50] <DonL> satafterh, if you get it from the Ubuntu repositories like I did, it should just work
[04:50] <cafuego_> khermans: That depends, the masses generally want web, mail and office. All of those work fine.
[04:50] <Jan_> Probably more than half of my mp3s crash gxine
[04:50] <[klined] > Orborde: I think that's to connec to the main chat server
[04:50] <Jan_> maybe I just have a lot of busted mp3s, but yikes...
[04:50] <cafuego_> khermans: In most cases BETTER then on say Windows.
[04:50] <Jan_> is there a better alternative?
[04:50] <satafterh> <[klined] > it ran very slow for me
[04:50] <Orborde> [klined] : Yeah. Guess that doesn't help much.
[04:50] <wthanna> can anyone tell me how to make Enlightenment show up as a session option when i login to ubuntu breezy.. installed thru synaptic, but does not show as an option on login
[04:50] <khermans> cafuego, hehe, and if they can't click on that popup that says "Install Flash", they are screwed
[04:50] <eyequeue> cafuego:  especially in massachusetts :)
[04:51] <trigger_ph> bob2: thanks. i'm importing now, will let u know the moment gimp sees them. :)
[04:51] <khermans> cafuego, and what about all the windows-specific codecs for video?
[04:51] <cafuego_> khermans: Well, considering they'll be using a Dell, they'll be in ia32, so flash will work fine, shit though it is.
[04:51] <MachineScrew> can any one here help darkbutterfly
[04:51] <bob2> trigger_ph: heh, np
[04:51] <khermans> cafuego, what about streaming video on news sites?  A normal user gets flusterd on lknux
[04:52] <khermans> cafuego, streaming video probably turns away many people once they think they are comfortable in linux
[04:52] <Orborde> cafuego: Yeah; right up until you do something nonstandard, Linux is fine.
[04:52] <MachineScrew> she has a problem with NeoMagic 256 sound card
[04:52] <cafuego_> khermans: Joe BLow doesn't look at streaming video. he sends mail and types letters in Word.
[04:52] <khermans> cafuego, you are dead wrong
[04:52] <cafuego_> khermans: but that's an altogether different story.
[04:52] <MachineScrew> come on dang it
[04:52] <khermans> cafuego, look at the stats for Real Networks sales
[04:52] <[klined] > satafterh: hmm, not sure man
[04:52] <rob^> grr, khermans check out restrictedformats on the wiki
[04:52] <Orborde> cafuego_: What if he's clicking around CNN news and it says, "View our report on this disaster, live!", and he clicks it.
[04:52] <[klined] > cafuego: yea they do!
[04:52] <|ww> whats a good text editor that does syntax highlighting
[04:52] <eyequeue> yeah, streaming video seems common on news sites these days
[04:52] <cafuego_> khermans: No, i'm not wrong.
[04:52] <Jan_> ew
[04:53] <eyequeue> lww vim
[04:53] <WebLOCH> oreet
[04:53] <Jan_> VLC for GTK doesn't support dropping files.
[04:53] <Jan_> That's cruddy.
[04:53] <bob2> |ww: I quite like emacs; you might like gedit if you've recently come from windows
[04:53] <khermans> rob^, it doesnt have to do with restricted formats, RealPlayer does ALL formats -- even OSS ones
[04:53] <Orborde> cafuego_: In windows, it magically works. In Linux, you have to go look up a tutorial, apt-get 5 things.
[04:53] <cafuego_> eyequeue: just because it's there doesn't mean people actually click it (or visit those sites).
[04:53] <mazzabr> hi folds. I need to recovery a destroyed grub mbr.
[04:53] <VoX> wheeee
[04:53] <|ww> bob2; emacs have duel view editing?
[04:53] <mazzabr> windows has destroyed it, and now I need to recover.
[04:53] <rob^> khermans, well install it then and stop complaining
[04:53] <eyequeue> cafuego:  i see it commonly in with students and teachers here
[04:54] <cafuego_> eyequeue; They are *not* Joe Blow.
[04:54] <Jan_> OK well I@m going to slee
[04:54] <darkbutterfly> can anyone help me with my sound card?  it's a neomagic 256 on a gateway solo 2500 laptop, and it's not being detected.
[04:54] <Jan_> night all
[04:54] <Jan_> and thanks!
[04:54] <bob2> |ww: I don't know what that is, but yes
[04:54] <bob2> Jan_: adios
[04:54] <WebLOCH> hey guys, is totem meant to be able to playback AVI and MPG files?
[04:54] <Orborde> cafuego_: You do have to remember: YOU are a Linux user. YOU ARE NOT THE MASSES.
[04:54] <VoX> khermans: what was your responce to the repos? my cable dropped out :(
[04:54] <Linux_whore> where can i get gaim1.5 for ubuntu? the source wont compile on here and the gaim website does not have gaim for ubuntu. also synatic does not have the newest version.
[04:54] <mazzabr> darkbutterfly, try alsamixer
[04:54] <cafuego_> Orborde: I help the masses with their intenet woes, I _do_ know what I'm talking about.
[04:54] <darkbutterfly> i'm using ubuntu breezy, just upgraded from hoary, and it didn't work under that, either.
[04:54] <darkbutterfly> i did.
[04:54] <Madpilot> !tell WebLOCH about restricted
[04:54] <mazzabr> darkbutterfly, probably the volume at alsamixer is low
[04:55] <Madpilot> WebLOCH: Totem can - see the msg ubotu just sent you for details
[04:55] <WebLOCH> Madpilot, I know about restricted formats, im just asking if totem should
[04:55] <rob^> Linux_whore, some times you need to use debian packages for things
[04:55] <WebLOCH> Yeah
[04:55] <darkbutterfly> no, it says there is no sound card.
[04:55] <eyequeue> darkbutterfly:  sudo alsamixer
[04:55] <mazzabr> darkbutterfly, sorry then, that was the default answer.
[04:55] <Paradoxx> finally, i'm back..
[04:55] <Madpilot> WebLOCH: my Totem install can...
[04:55] <WebLOCH> Madpilot, in that case is there a way to configure totem so that it sees the extra codecs because currently it refuses to play additional formats
[04:55] <Paradoxx> lo all
[04:55] <mazzabr> darkbutterfly, was the sound working util then?
[04:55] <eyequeue> darkbutterfly:  nm
[04:55] <darkbutterfly> no, it wasn't.
[04:55] <Madpilot> WebLOCH: not sure of the details, sorry. have a 2nd look at that wiki page
[04:55] <nomasteryoda> darkbutterfly, this is the channel where the ubuntu experts live...
[04:56] <nomasteryoda> =)
[04:56] <eagleye> What do you reccommend for installing java
[04:56] <WebLOCH> Madpilot, will do
[04:56] <rob^> ubotu tell eagleye about java
[04:56] <Orborde> Where do I get ndiswrapper?
[04:56] <rob^> pfft
[04:56] <wthanna> anyone running E16?
[04:56] <mazzabr> darkbutterfly, you shouldn't have moved to unstable before being sure that your hardware is compatible.
[04:56] <Linux_whore> rob^ i understand, but where do i get the debian packages?
[04:56] <Madpilot> later, all
[04:56] <drogoh> Orborde, Google ndiswrapper
[04:56] <Orborde> apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils says "Can't find package"
[04:56] <MachineScrew> apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils
[04:56] <darkbutterfly> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[04:57] <Paradoxx> what do you all recommend for burning dvds?
[04:57] <MachineScrew> ok opp
[04:57] <MachineScrew> s
[04:57] <darkbutterfly> that's the error i got
[04:57] <Paradoxx> like to watch in a dvd player
[04:57] <rob^> ubotu no java is to install Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:57] <ubotu> rob^: okay
[04:57] <nomasteryoda> mazzabr, here old system works fine with breezy.... since it did not even work with hoary. not an issue there
[04:57] <leopard> Ororde: you probably have to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:57] <rob^> Linux_whore, on their site?
[04:57] <bimberi> Orborde: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[04:57] <darkbutterfly> to install java, you can go to applications under breezy
[04:58] <darkbutterfly> you go to add application
[04:58] <digiturtle> hello all
[04:58] <csthepoet> hey what's the installation command for ubuntu?
[04:58] <BlueLotus> Not sure if this is the right channel for this, but my apache server is telling me that there is no such function as mysql_connect(); although I have used this script on a different server and it worked fine.  Anyone know how I can properly configure my apache2 server on ubuntu?
[04:59] <Linux_whore> rob^ no i tried that
[04:59] <darkbutterfly> then click the arrow for internet, click more options, then you look until you see the java icon thingy, then you click the box, and it will ask you to add repository, click add, then you can install after that by clicking apply
[04:59] <drogoh> The Hoary DVD image, it isn't SATA aware is it?
[04:59] <bimberi> csthepoet: apt-get ?
[04:59] <JDahl> csthepoet, beginners should try "synaptic" first
[04:59] <BlueLotus> drogoh, why?
[04:59] <JDahl> csthepoet, it's in the menus
[04:59] <digiturtle> Is there an issue with ATI cards? Can't get anything but 640x480
[04:59] <bimberi> csthepoet: system -> admin -> synaptic
[04:59] <BlueLotus> I've installed hoary non-dvd on a sata and it's worked fine, drogoh
[04:59] <rob^> Linux_whore, you could download the rpm then convert into deb with alien
[05:00] <drogoh> Because I have SATA and it acts like it doesn't have SATA support in the kernel.
[05:00] <leopard> BlueLotus: you're missing the mysql module for apache
[05:00] <darkbutterfly> i've already loaded snd-nm256 which is the module for it, but i can't find anything about it unless i go into the bios
[05:00] <digiturtle> I believe that it shows the SATA drive as being a SCSI drive
[05:00] <JDahl> drogoh, it should be, but SATA is troublesome.
[05:00] <virtualc> how to enable my direct rendering?
[05:00] <drogoh> JDahl, I know it is.
[05:00] <leopard> BlueLotus: do you have mysql installed?
[05:01] <JDahl> drogoh, Hoary should support I mean. Sometimes changing BIOS settings can help
[05:01] <BlueLotus> leopard, yes I do.
[05:01] <bimberi> digiturtle: hopefully something at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto will help you
[05:01] <Linux_whore> rob^ does it matter which distro the rpm is for?
[05:01] <drogoh> Hm.
[05:01] <rob^> Linux_whore, get whatever is the latest one
[05:01] <drogoh> I peeped around in the modules and saw a few SATA controller modules but that was it.
[05:01] <lokadin> say how come, even though i have completly removed all synaptics mouse input device sections in xorg it sitll works?
[05:02] <BlueEagle> drogoh: I've got SATA and it's working perfectly. Which controller have you got there?
[05:02] <BlueLotus> leopard, how do I verify that?
[05:02] <drogoh> A while back I had tried Gentoo for kicks and the generic kernel supported everything just fine.
[05:02] <JDahl> drogoh, even Warty supports SATA
[05:02] <csthepoet> bimberi, yea i got that but i need to install the newer version of firefox
[05:02] <leopard> BlueLotus: dpkg -l | grep libapache2-mod-auth-mysql
[05:02] <csthepoet> bimberi, would it be there?
[05:02] <leopard> BlueLotus: if it turns up nothing install libapache2-mod-auth-mysql
[05:02] <JDahl> drogoh, Debian had serious SATA problems around 1-1.5 years back
[05:02] <leopard> and restart apache2
[05:02] <drogoh> BlueEagle, Sec.  Don't have the exact model on hand but it's Intel.
[05:02] <eyequeue> libapache2-mod-auth-mysql - Apache 2 module for MySQL authentication
[05:02] <digiturtle> any idea with the low resolutions and how to configure it for 1280X1024
[05:03] <Linux_whore> rob^ nevermind i found autopackage
[05:03] <bimberi> csthepoet: yes, 1.0.7 is available via synaptic
[05:03] <lokadin> hello
[05:03] <rob^> has anyone had any success with the j2re1.4 blackdown java package in multiverse?
[05:03] <lokadin> can anyone hear me?
[05:03] <Canadean> hello
[05:03] <digiturtle> I can hear your lokadin
[05:03] <rob^> Linux_whore, yeah that will work too
[05:03] <lokadin> or am i unregistreted?
[05:03] <lokadin> digiturtle, thanks
[05:03] <bimberi> lokadin: no, but we can see what you're typing :P
[05:03] <Linux_whore> will x86 package work on a i386 system?
[05:03] <virtualc> i run glxinfo and i says direct rendering = no; how to make it yes? what to install?
[05:03] <BlueEagle> lokadin: I can't hear you, but I can read what you're typing. :)
[05:04] <lokadin> BlueEagle,
[05:04] <Canadean> can anyone tell me how to install a driver to run my Yukon gigabit adapter
[05:04] <lokadin> lol
[05:04] <Cannabliss> when i try to boot from cd with the installer i can not use my usb keyboard
[05:04] <drogoh> Linux_whore, i386 is x86
[05:04] <Cannabliss> is there anyway i could?
[05:04] <leopard> BlueEagle: did libapache2-mod-auth-mysql do it?
[05:04] <lokadin> so does anyone know why my synaptics mouse is still enabled
[05:04] <BlueEagle> leopard: do what?
[05:04] <lokadin> ?
[05:04] <digiturtle> no idea lokadin
[05:04] <lokadin> :(
[05:05] <leopard> BlueEagle: did installing libapache2-mod-auth-mysql solve your connect problem?
[05:05] <drogoh> BlueEagle, Windows is telling me Intel 82801 GR/GH for the SATA controller.
[05:05] <BlueLotus> leopard dpkg -l does not turn it up, although apt-get install says its allready the latest version.  Should I restart?
[05:05] <BlueEagle> leopard: I didn't have any connection problems.
[05:05] <Linux_whore> my p key does not work after i made some keyboard shortcuts. is there anyway to fix that or undo changes or set them back to default?
[05:05] <Linux_whore> some other keys also do not work
[05:05] <BlueEagle> drogoh: Hmm.. not familiar with that controller. What does google say?
[05:05] <Cannabliss> hello could anyone help me with being able to start the install with a usb keyboard
[05:06] <Canadean> ...
[05:06] <leopard> BlueEagle: sorry that was BlueLotus
[05:06] <Canadean> can anyone tell me how to install a driver to run my Yukon gigabit adapter
[05:06] <BiggieSmalls> could anyone help me getting the nvidia-glx driver to work in breezy?
[05:06] <csthepoet> bimberi, how do i get the new version there? i don't see it
[05:06] <drogoh> BlueEagle, Not much, just a couple of Dell forum posts (it is a Dell).
[05:06] <eyequeue> BlueLotus:  are you sure it's not php that needs to talk to mysql?
[05:06] <BlueLotus> leopard, I was unable to apt-get libapache2, because it said it was allready installed
[05:06] <eyequeue> BlueLotus:  php4-mysql - MySQL module for php4
[05:06] <leopard> BlueLotus: just apache /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[05:06] <Paradoxx> how can i burn some avi files to run in my dvd player?
[05:07] <drogoh> Ah hell, sec.
[05:07] <BlueLotus> eyequeue thankyou
[05:07] <JDahl> BiggieSmalls, you are probably better waiting with that until Breezy is released
[05:07] <drogoh> Had an extra space in there.
[05:07] <bimberi> csthepoet: what version do you see?
[05:07] <eyequeue> BlueLotus:  np
[05:07] <JDahl> s/better/better off
[05:07] <BlueEagle> drogoh: Ehh.. Are you sure about that chip? As far as I can tell Intel 82801 is a sensor chip on the I2C bus.
[05:07] <BiggieSmalls> JDahl: u mean breezy final?
[05:07] <bimberi> csthepoet: btw the package is mozilla-firefox
[05:07] <leopard> BlueLotus: yep, what eyequeue said should help if the other doesn't
[05:08] <drogoh> The board is a 945...
[05:08] <JDahl> BiggieSmalls, yes, at least for Hoary the restricted drivers were the last thing to get ironed out
[05:08] <BlueEagle> drogoh: Never mind that. It appears to be a bridge chip or something. (?)
[05:08] <puff> Evening.
[05:08] <puff> So, more fun with my disappearing wireless...
[05:08] <drogoh> That's the generic number for stuff on the board, apparently.
[05:08] <leopard> Well folks...my last day of dialup --- I hope!
[05:08] <eyequeue> BlueLotus:  most of mt db-using webapps under apache2 here are in php
[05:08] <eyequeue> my
[05:08] <BiggieSmalls> JDahl: oh ok thanks man, i know this might be a popular question but is there a ETA on when Breezy final will be released?
[05:09] <JDahl> BiggieSmalls, mid october, I believe
[05:09] <Paradoxx> !breezy
[05:09] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[05:09] <eyequeue> BiggieSmalls:  oct 13
[05:09] <csthepoet> bimberi, 1.0.2
[05:09] <BiggieSmalls> thanks guys
[05:09] <trigger_ph> bob2: i see the new fonts on gimp! hehe thanks!
[05:09] <bimberi> csthepoet: what ubuntu version are you running?
[05:09] <eyequeue> BiggieSmalls:  hoary was a few days  late though
[05:09] <hosler> Will nautilus make an audo cd or will it just burn my audo files to the cd and make it a data cd?
[05:09] <csthepoet> bimberi, 5.04
[05:10] <BlueLotus> leopard, eyequeue, neither php4 or php 5 are apearing under apt-cache search php
[05:10] <puff>  ipw-2.2-bss.fw load failed: Reason -2
[05:10] <drogoh> I know the Linux kernel has support for my SATA controller but I don't think the Hoary DVD image has it enabled, for some reason or another.
[05:10] <bolivar> What is the screen called during start up that has the bar running left to right.  I must change that thing.  The brown is killing me.
[05:10] <IceDrag0nLX> Hey
[05:10] <leopard> BlueLotus: you want the php4-mysql package
[05:10] <IceDrag0nLX> I've got another question
[05:10] <virtualc> i run glxinfo and i says direct rendering = no; how to make it yes? what to install?
[05:10] <trigger_ph> brb
[05:10] <Rafe> Breezy was the only one I found that worked right on a Toshiba laptop THANKS
[05:10] <BlueLotus> leopard, eyequeue i mean the php4-mysql *
[05:10] <IceDrag0nLX> Is there a ubuntu terminal bible/manual
[05:10] <eyequeue> BlueLotus:  weird ... 5 is in breezy, but 4 was in hoary i thought
[05:10] <BlueEagle> drogoh: did either of the ICH5R or ICH6R modules work?
[05:10] <leopard> BlueLotus: have you edited your /etc/apt/sources yet?
[05:10] <hosler> Will nautilus make an audo cd or will it just burn my audo files to the cd and make it a data cd?
[05:10] <caustictwin> I have a toshiba laptop question
[05:10] <BlueLotus> leopard, nope
[05:10] <caustictwin> I guess i dl's breezy badger
[05:10] <hosler> castictwin: hit me
[05:11] <bimberi> csthepoet: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file to a pastebin (such as http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl)
[05:11] <BlueLotus> eyequeue, i have the php4 module... just not the php4-mysql
[05:11] <caustictwin> I have a belkin wireless g pcmcia card
[05:11] <hosler> caustictwin: what is your question?
[05:11] <bob2> trigger_ph: np
[05:11] <leopard> BlueLotus: /etc/apt/sources.list I mean... use Synaptic and add the new repositories.
[05:11] <caustictwin> how do I get ubuntu to recognize it?
[05:11] <bimberi> hosler: i don't think nautilus does audio cds
[05:11] <eyequeue> Filename: pool/universe/p/php4/php4-mysql_4.4.0-2_i386.deb
[05:11] <eyequeue> Filename: pool/universe/p/php4-universe/php4-mysql_4.3.10-10ubuntu3_i386.deb
[05:11] <digiturtle> Depends on the chipset Cactus
[05:11] <drogoh> BlueEagle, Honest, SATA is a little uncharted for me and red flags flew up when the installer didn't detect anything...
[05:11] <bimberi> hosler: gnomebaker perhaps
[05:11] <Arkainium> I can get my laptop to suspend/resume with no problems the first time.  If I try agian though, it locks up when trying to resume.  Why would it work the first time and not subsequent times?
[05:11] <hosler> caustictwin: huh? I have a toshiba laptop and ubuntu works great for me
[05:11] <eyequeue> BlueLotus:  i guess you need universe now
[05:12] <caustictwin> right, this is my wireless card
[05:12] <Cannabliss> hello could anyone help me with being able to start the install with a usb keyboard
[05:12] <caustictwin> the laptop is fine
[05:12] <WebLOCH> is there anyway of installing the gnome browser component without the actual browser and composer?
[05:12] <caustictwin> but I don't want to be hardwired
[05:12] <drogoh> So I didn't try every possible thing that could have been tried (most of which I'm unsure of)
[05:12] <Linux_whore> i must of found a bug in ubuntu
[05:12] <BlueLotus> leopard, eyequeue, how do I do what you are talking about on my server?
[05:12] <csthepoet> bimberi, where do i find the  /etc/apt/sources.list?
[05:12] <durt> what kind of tosh laptops do yall have
[05:12] <hosler> caustictwin: use the network-admin command
[05:12] <csthepoet> bimberi, is that in my computer?
[05:12] <hosler> durt: satellite A10
[05:12] <BlueEagle> drogoh: Well, it might be that they are simply not supported. :/
[05:12] <caustictwin> in device manager it isn't regocnized
[05:12] <bimberi> csthepoet: yes
[05:12] <leopard> BlueLotus: do you know how to use vi?
[05:12] <eyequeue> ubotu:  tell BlueLotus about repositories
[05:12] <csthepoet> bimberi, oh ok
[05:12] <BlueLotus> leonel, slightly
[05:13] <drogoh> BlueEagle, How so?  Gentoo Riceburner supported it out of the box.
[05:13] <BlueLotus> eyequeue, thankyou.
[05:13] <eyequeue> np
[05:13] <JDahl> Cannabliss, the install CD doesn't recognize your USB keyboard? That's a bug you should make sure goes to one of the developers
[05:13] <leopard> Just remove the comments in /etc/apt/sources.list and do an apt-get update before doing another apt-cache search
[05:13] <Cannabliss> ok i will try to inform them
[05:13] <caustictwin> anyone know how I could get this belkin wireless card to work in ubuntu?
[05:14] <hosler> caustictwin: does it not show the card in the network-admin?
[05:14] <Necrosan> Cannabliss: just plug the keyboard in and turn it on.. it should just work.
[05:14] <leopard> fm, freaking magic! lol
[05:14] <caustictwin> no
[05:14] <Necrosan> he needs ndiswrapper
[05:14] <puff> Succeeded in resuming from hibernate on saturday, but the wifi wasn't working.  Couldn't find it from the shell level, but System/Admin/Network showed it there, but unconfigured it.  Configured it by setting the network to be the local hotspot and telling it to use DHCP, then activated it.
[05:14] <drogoh> Alas, putting Linux on this computer wouldn't be such a pain in the ass if I only had two things.
[05:14] <hosler> caustictwin: dont know then. maybe go to manufacturer site and look for drivers
[05:14] <puff> Succeeded again saturday evening, but wifi was completely gone, not showing up in the network admin applet.  Did modprobe ipw2200, no errors but no results.  Did modprobe -r ipw2200, modprobe ipw2200, now it shows up in the network applet again, unconfigured.
[05:15] <caustictwin> yeah.
[05:15] <drogoh> One, blank CD-RWs and two, a cat5 to the router.
[05:15] <csthepoet> bimberi, there you go
[05:15] <caustictwin> there are no such thing
[05:15] <puff> Also, I noticed that this time around, fn-f12 to hibernate does not work, though it worked in the previous install.
[05:15] <leopard> Anyone worked with AUI?
[05:16] <BlueLotus> eyequeue, leopard , I appreciate all the help.  It works. thanks.
[05:16] <BlueEagle> drogoh: Well, if you can lsmod it and get the module needed things would be easier.
[05:16] <leopard> BlueLotus: good stuff.
[05:16] <eyequeue> BlueLotus:  glad to hear it
[05:17] <eyequeue> BlueLotus:  btw browse your package list now that you have universe, it's huge heh
[05:18] <bimberi> csthepoet: ah, ok, you need to uncomment all the lines starting with "deb http" (ie. remove the '#'), then "sudo apt-get update"
[05:18] <drogoh> BlueEagle, It would but I have no way of actually getting Gentoo booted on here.
[05:18] <Linux_whore> my p key does not work after i made some keyboard shortcuts. is there anyway to fix that or undo changes or set them back to default? some other keys also do not workhow can i fix ubuntu i guess i will reinstall it again noone here knows
[05:18] <drogoh> (unless I go and roll my own ISO from the universal CD)
[05:18] <bimberi> csthepoet: this assumes the box has internet connectivity
[05:18] <BlueEagle> drogoh: The minimal iso should suffice tbh.
[05:19] <leopard> eyequeue: have you got mdb databases working with Apache? Noticed a user at work was trying to upload one and it doesn't connect. I install ODBC drivers, but AFAIK the rest of it rests on the user having to make the database ODBC ready, nothing else I can do that I know of.
[05:19] <Orborde> Linux_whore: Try undoing all the changes you made to keyboard shortcuts.
[05:19] <eyequeue> Linux_whore:  where did you make them?
[05:19] <drogoh> But I still have a predicament of having but a single DVD+RW to my possession.
[05:19] <bimberi> Linux_whore: sorry i don't know the answer, but it must really iss you off :)
[05:19] <csthepoet> bimberi, hmm i don't understand how to do the first part with the #
[05:19] <Noah0504> Does anyone know of a SoulSeek client for Linux?
[05:19] <bimberi> csthepoet: in a terminal type "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[05:20] <eyequeue> leopard:  no, i've only used http auth with apache2
[05:20] <drogoh> Noah0504, Nicotine, I think...
[05:20] <caustictwin> so, can anyone help me get this belkin wireless g card to work in ubuntu?
[05:20] <eyequeue> csthepoet:  in vim, press the del key while over it
[05:20] <Noah0504> drogoh: Thanks.
[05:20] <drogoh> caustictwin, Well you've probably already been told you need ndiswrapper.
[05:21] <leopard> eye: good call on the php4-mysql. Time for sleep...only one more day with dialup... ;-)
[05:21] <Linux_whore> i have tried undoing the changes. i went to System>preferences>keyboard shortcuts
[05:21] <eyequeue> csthepoet:  in vim, :wq to write changes and quit
[05:21] <caustictwin> no, actually, I have not
[05:21] <caustictwin> what is ndiswrapper
[05:21] <drogoh> caustictwin, No? Hm.
[05:21] <eyequeue> leopard:  see you here all speedy like manana :)
[05:21] <drogoh> Well it's a Belkin card so you'll definitely need ndiswrapper.
[05:21] <caustictwin> ok
[05:21] <caustictwin> is that in the standard apt repository?
[05:22] <drogoh> I think it's in universe, I can't quite remember off hand.
[05:22] <eyequeue> Filename: pool/main/n/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper-utils_0.12+1.0rc2-1_i386.deb
[05:23] <Noah0504> drogoh: Do you know if Nicotine is in the universe repository?
[05:23] <drogoh> packages.ubuntu.com :p
[05:23] <lokadin> say it keeps telling me that it logs me into the failsafe gnome version
[05:23] <eyequeue> you need the utils package plus the kernel modules
[05:23] <puff> Hm, this site:  http://aaltonen.us/archive/2005/03/02/ubuntu-linux-on-the-ibm-thinkpad-t42/
[05:23] <eagleye> How do you open a bin file
[05:23] <Cannabliss> my usb keyboard definitely does not work on the installer
[05:23] <csthepoet> bimberi, and do i delete all the #?
[05:23] <eyequeue> eagleye:  /usr/bin/file on it
[05:23] <puff> Though written for a t42, not a t43, seems to suggest that I need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and add a reusme option.
[05:23] <eyequeue> eagleye:  then tell us what kind it is
[05:24] <eagleye> real player
[05:24] <alex_798712> i'm having trouble with my xorg.conf after upgrading my kernel
[05:24] <bimberi> csthepoet: no just on the lines beginning with "# deb http" - there's 5 of the
[05:24] <alex_798712> can someone help?
[05:24] <Noah0504> Thanks.  It is, that will make things easy!
[05:24] <bimberi> m
[05:24] <caustictwin> hrm
[05:24] <nalioth> alex_798712: we need more info
[05:24] <caustictwin> cannot find ndiswrapper
[05:24] <drogoh> caustictwin, Well since you probably know the model of your card, go here to see if you're supported: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List
[05:24] <alex_798712> i ran the update
[05:25] <alex_798712> when i reboot the x server failed
[05:25] <drogoh> caustictwin, ndiswrapper-utils
[05:25] <eyequeue> ubotu:  te;; caustictwin about ndiswrapper
[05:25] <ubotu> eyequeue: I don't know, could you explain it?
[05:25] <alex_798712> so i grabbed the nvidia driver off nvida's site
[05:25] <eyequeue> ubotu:  tell caustictwin about ndiswrapper
[05:25] <alex_798712> ran the installer
[05:25] <alex_798712> but i don't have the kernel sources
[05:25] <csthepoet> bimberi, ok did that now save?
[05:25] <alex_798712> so i can't create a custom module
[05:25] <bimberi> csthepoet: yes
[05:25] <nalioth> alex_798712: the nvidia drivers available using synaptic didnt work?
[05:25] <csthepoet> ok done
[05:25] <caustictwin> drogoh, thanks
[05:25] <alex_798712> how would i retreive them?
[05:26] <alex_798712> apt-get ...?
[05:26] <bimberi> csthepoet: then hit reload in synaptic
[05:26] <alex_798712> i don't have any gui
[05:26] <lokadin> so okay, well besides that my xorg.conf seems to have no relationship to my Xsession, and my firefox doesn't support characters, i was wondering how in the world i can make gdm stop complaining that it can't find the default GNOME session
[05:26] <alex_798712> only command line
[05:26] <nalioth> !tell alex_798712 about apt
[05:26] <SuperNinjaKitty> i dont want to cause an argument but i wonder what are the advantages of running Ubuntu over Debian
[05:26] <jrattner1> Package kdebluetooth has no available version, but exists in the database?
[05:26] <julio> I need help connecting to my Home Network
[05:27] <nalioth> SuperNinjaKitty: US
[05:27] <eyequeue> alex_798712:  sudo apt-get install linux-image-`uname -r`
[05:27] <jrattner1> Anyone ever seen that synaptic error
[05:27] <drogoh> SuperNinjaKitty, As my friend kassetra told me once before, "Ubuntu is Debian done right".
[05:27] <csthepoet> bimberi, i got an error entering synaptic
[05:27] <lokadin> i dono, i think my ubuntu is evolving all on it's own
[05:27] <drogoh> Now I don't know what aspect she meant.
[05:27] <eyequeue> alex_798712:  sudo apt-get install linux-source-`uname -r`
[05:27] <bimberi> csthepoet: that's ok, just hit reload
[05:27] <lokadin> it has configuration files stored in the middle of nowhere, in non existant parts of the computer
[05:28] <lokadin> my mouse is working without any sections in the xorg.conf,
[05:28] <jrattner1> Can i use a deb package KDE Bluetooth, with ubuntu? cause the package isnt available via synaptic?
[05:28] <bimberi> csthepoet: that was because synaptic noticed that the sources.list was different to what it remembered
[05:28] <alex_798712> thanks
[05:28] <alex_798712> that will build the kernel tree?
[05:28] <WebLOCH> Anyone here used Rhythmbox?
[05:28] <lokadin> i just wanna kill myself because ubuntu is soo depressinng
[05:28] <nalioth> jrattner1: it'd be better to compile it yourself
[05:28] <eyequeue> alex_798712:  you may need to unpack it still
[05:28] <jrattner1> nalioth, you think i should compile it from source?
[05:29] <WebLOCH> lokadin, ubuntu is fun! shurrup, whats your trouble?
[05:29] <drogoh> lokadin, Then go to Gentoo, troll. ;/
[05:29] <nalioth> WebLOCH: rhythmbox is the default player
[05:29] <eyequeue> alex_798712:  may be a tarball under /usr/src
[05:29] <SuperNinjaKitty> drogoh how do you mean?
[05:29] <alex_798712> right
[05:29] <csthepoet> bimberi, wow now i see alot of new things
[05:29] <nalioth> jrattner1: some debian packages can break your ubuntu, so compiling the item you want from source is a better alternative
[05:29] <WebLOCH> nalioth, mine was not, however it would seem it doesnt seem to work at the moment although other audio does
[05:29] <eagleye> here it is>RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 8 0386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.5, dynamically linked (uses shared lib s), not stripped
[05:29] <alex_798712> then i would try the nividia installer again?
[05:29] <lokadin> drogoh, i have gentoo :( but on my laptop for school i don't think i can waste my time with compiling things, if i could make a hybrid that would be nice
[05:29] <drogoh> SuperNinjaKitty, Like I said, I'm not sure.  I believe she meant the political crusade that people go through with Debian proper.
[05:29] <nalioth> WebLOCH: it's named 'Music Player' for some reason
[05:29] <BOOMSHOT> sup Everyone!
[05:30] <bimberi> csthepoet: yes, you were looking at just what's on the install cd
[05:30] <eyequeue> eagleye:  it wants you to run it ...              ./filename.bin
[05:30] <drogoh> lokadin, Then do a LFS if you want something more exciting than Gentoo or Ubuntu.
[05:30] <WebLOCH> nalioth, ahh that might be why!  even so, it does not seem to playback audio, it gives an error message
[05:30] <csthepoet> bimberi, ahh ok hey maybe you can help me in one more thing
[05:30] <eyequeue> eagleye:  chmod +x filename.bin ;  ./filename.bin
[05:30] <drogoh> I don't have the patience for LFS or I'd have done at least three.
[05:30] <csthepoet> bimberi, if you don't mind
[05:30] <SuperNinjaKitty> drogoh fair enough
[05:30] <Noah0504> I'm following the instructions in the Ubuntu Guide to add the universe repository so I can install Nicotine.  It looks like it's also adding others besides just the universe...Is that okay?
[05:30] <eagleye> thank you. i will try
[05:30] <nalioth> WebLOCH: sound problems plague ubuntu, have you been to what ubotu is gonna send you?
[05:30] <tristanmike> hi eagleye
[05:30] <bimberi> bimberi: sure, fire away
[05:31] <jrattner1> where are X includes in ubuntu?
[05:31] <eagleye> hey whats up
[05:31] <WebLOCH> nalioth, I have sound working fine, i think its a rhythmbox/gstreamer problem
[05:31] <bimberi> csthepoet: sure fire away
[05:31] <BOOMSHOT> Newbie here - I broke Mozilla-firefox & can't seem to reinstall using apt-get nor Synaptic...helllppp
[05:31] <nalioth> jrattner1: you should install xlibs-dev
[05:31] <bimberi> D'Oh - i haven't done that for a while
[05:31] <jrattner1> nalioth, sounds good
[05:31] <tristanmike> eagleye, nadda
[05:31] <BOOMSHOT> Can someone help?
[05:31] <SuperNinjaKitty> drogoh one thing i have seen that ubuntu does have that is very well done is the user guide
[05:31] <nalioth> WebLOCH: give the URL a glance, you may see something
[05:31] <lokadin> drogoh, no, no i want something that will be easy to work worth
[05:31] <drogoh> Noah0504, If you're trying to be a GPL purist, no.  If you're not a GPL fanatic, yes.
[05:31] <bimberi> BOOMSHOT: see /topic
[05:31] <WebLOCH> nalioth, will do
[05:31] <drogoh> lokadin, VLOS, Fedora, CentOS. :p
[05:31] <nalioth> BOOMSHOT: do you use synaptic or console apt-get?
[05:31] <caustictwin> so far, I really like breeezy badger
[05:32] <MadpilotPPC> hi all
[05:32] <caustictwin> it looks nice
[05:32] <Noah0504> drogoh: Well, in that case, I guess I'll be adding them! haha
[05:32] <caustictwin> looks like some time was spent on the gui
[05:32] <lokadin> drogoh, but they aren't easy to work with :( you have to find rpm
[05:32] <nalioth> MadpilotPPC: PPC?
[05:32] <csthepoet> bimberi, i have ubuntu installed on one partition and fedora on another, but everytime i restart grub only loads ubuntu, how could i load fedora
[05:32] <lokadin> drogoh, with gentoo you have to compile
[05:32] <drogoh> Pah.
[05:32] <BOOMSHOT> nalioth: I tried both ... saying unmet dependencies but wont install them
[05:32] <drogoh> You've got scripts.
[05:32] <drogoh> Quit trolling.
[05:32] <MadpilotPPC> nalioth, housesitting for a friend, using his G4 w/ Ubuntu... ;)
[05:32] <evil_k> hey, im new to linux & ubuntu, can i play mp3s from an ntfs hd?
[05:32] <WebLOCH> nalioth, doesnt seem to be related at all
[05:32] <lokadin> drogoh, and with ubuntu the configuration files don't relate to the applications
[05:32] <jrattner1> nalioth, Any other libs you think i should install
[05:33] <nalioth> BOOMSHOT: use one and completely remove your problem programs
[05:33] <cafuego_> MadpilotPPC: Well well.
[05:33] <drogoh> You've got yum with RH and friends, emerge, porthole with Gentoo.
[05:33] <bimberi> csthepoet: you mean that there is no optoin for Fedora in the grub menu?
[05:33] <citrosack> question:  when i plug in my jump drive it automatically mounts it at sdb1  ALTHO i don't want it to mount automatically.... how can i prevents this with out disabaling hotplug?
[05:33] <csthepoet> bimberi, yea
[05:33] <lokadin> drogoh, hmmm i guess your right, gentoo would be a better option
[05:33] <BOOMSHOT> nalioth: give me a suggested command 4 instance for mozilla-firefox
[05:33] <drogoh> SuperNinjaKitty, One thing I've noticed about the Ubuntu project is that it seems to be gearing itself at being developed for users and not developers.
[05:33] <lokadin> drogoh, :) thanks i'll get the install underway then
[05:33] <cafuego_> citrosack: There's an option to not auto-mount removable drives in the prefs somewhere
[05:33] <BOOMSHOT> in apt-get
[05:34] <BOOMSHOT> newbie here
[05:34] <nalioth> BOOMSHOT: "sudo apt-get remove --purge mozilla-firefox"
[05:34] <BOOMSHOT> thnx
[05:34] <drogoh> That seems to be one of the downfalls of other distributions.
[05:34] <citrosack> cafuego_: thanks but i want my ipod to mount automatically..
[05:34] <SuperNinjaKitty> drogoh i have given away probably 30 ubuntu cds
[05:34] <jrattner1> nalioth, its says it cant find QT which is installed (headers and libraries)
[05:34] <eyequeue> citrosack:  you have me curious, why don't you want it mounted?
[05:34] <bimberi> csthepoet: ok, a bit tricky for me that one,  you'll need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst to include information for booting Fedora,  however what you need to put in is beyond me
[05:35] <cafuego_> citrosack: Then you'll have to put up with other removable drives automounting too.
[05:35] <nalioth> jrattner1: you've installed the QT dev libs?
[05:35] <citrosack> cafuego_: theres got to be a better way then that
[05:35] <jrattner1> nalioth, no not the dev, i assumed i didnt need them
[05:35] <bimberi> csthepoet: others here might know, or maybe google
[05:35] <cafuego_> citrosack: Howso?
[05:35] <csthepoet> bimberi, ok and where do i do that?
[05:35] <cafuego_> citrosack: How is the system supposed to distinguish them without mounting them first?
[05:35] <nalioth> jrattner1: for compiling your own things, you need -dev packages
[05:36] <thechris> i'm attempting to install ubuntu off of an older cd.  i think it is "horay"
[05:36] <drogoh> During my short experience with this particular distribution, it seems to be positioning itself as one of the most user oriented Linux distributions out there...
[05:36] <thechris> but the install fails
[05:36] <jrattner1> ahhh
[05:36] <puff> thechris: hoary.
[05:36] <thechris> "some packages failed to install"
[05:36] <bimberi> csthepoet: to edit the file would be "sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[05:36] <drogoh> Now if only that pesky hardware detection thing can be dealt with.
[05:36] <Crys_Win> Hehe. Hoary.
[05:37] <citrosack> cafuego_: well 'cat /proc/scsi  tells you what the device is     fstab and mtab are used for mounting and determining variables such as read only and whatnot   i am sure theres got to be a way
[05:37] <thechris> it didn't specify what files though, and X11 won't start because apparently there is no xserver installed...
[05:37] <drogoh> Ah well, it's a young project as of yet.  I suspect those things will be ironed out in releases to come.
[05:37] <csthepoet> bimberi, do i do that in root?
[05:37] <evil_k> how can i play a dvd?
[05:37] <SuperNinjaKitty> drogoh i have very basic hardware so most anything installs fine :)
[05:37] <thechris> i'm out of CDRs, so i can't get a different version
[05:37] <bimberi> csthepoet: normal user is fine (sudo handles the root access)
[05:37] <cafuego_> citrosack: I doubt it, none that I know of anyway that can be set easily in a preferences file somewhere. maybe udev can handle it, but udev config is voodoo!
[05:37] <eyequeue> thechris:  you can try 'sudo apt-get install x-window-system-core'
[05:37] <drogoh> SuperNinjaKitty, Then you have the ones with the newer and sometimes more obscure hardware like me.
[05:38] <nalioth> !tell evil_k about restricted
[05:38] <drogoh> Linux distributions are *really* hit and miss with this particular hardware.
[05:38] <citrosack> does ubuntu use udev?
[05:38] <cafuego_> citrosack: yes
[05:38] <BOOMSHOT> nalioth: I did what u typed: said not there to remove
[05:38] <csthepoet> bimberi, ok thank i'll find out the rest
[05:38] <WebLOCH>  what is the Gnome Media package for?
[05:38] <nalioth> BOOMSHOT: interesting
[05:38] <csthepoet> bimberi, thank you so much for everything, you've been a great help
[05:39] <bimberi> csthepoet: np - good luck :)
[05:39] <BOOMSHOT> nalioth: try install mozilla-firefox said: Depends: firefox but it is not installable
[05:39] <nalioth> BOOMSHOT: are your repos official or are you installing from somewhere else?
[05:39] <BOOMSHOT> official
[05:39] <citrosack> cafuego_: whats the difference between udev and the "norm"
[05:39] <cafuego_> citrosack: udev *is* the norm.
[05:40] <csthepoet> bimberi, you to in whatever you may need haha
[05:40] <citrosack>   maybe for ubuntu  but not so in gentoo or slackware or others that i have used
[05:40] <jrattner1> Whats the difference between Kubuntu and installing KDE for ubuntu
[05:40] <BOOMSHOT> when I unistalled mozilla-firefox it also uninstalled gnome support, yelp, ubuntu-desktop etc
[05:40] <drogoh> citrosack, Erm...
[05:40] <nalioth> BOOMSHOT: can you copy and paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to the address ubotu just sent you?
[05:40] <bimberi> csthepoet: thanks! :)
[05:40] <BOOMSHOT> k
[05:40] <cafuego_> citrosack: if they run recent 2.6 kernels, they ought to be using it. perhapsd configured differtnly.
[05:40] <drogoh> udev is the normal with 2.6
[05:40] <SuperNinjaKitty> jrattner none that i know of
[05:40] <drogoh> devfs is highly depreciated/obsolete.
[05:41] <SuperNinjaKitty> cept of course you'll have gnome too
[05:41] <cafuego_> If they don't use it, that would explain why they suck ;-)
[05:41] <nalioth> jrattner1: they are the same
[05:41] <eyequeue> dep-rec-a-ted :)
[05:41] <WebLOCH> eyequeue, sounds java-esque to me
[05:41] <Linux_whore> i have another harddrive not hooked up yet. how could i make it a ext3 fs and use it as extra space or mount it to /home? is there software for this i can use from ubuntu?
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[05:41] <jrattner1> nalioth, so when it says i need KDE headers, i assume it means kde-dev
[05:41] <citrosack> well anyways  i spose i can just right a script that will auto mount my ipod and i will just disable everything else
[05:42] <liable> ahh, thats betterer..
[05:42] <alex_798712> got it
[05:42] <alex_798712> thank you
[05:42] <nalioth> jrattner1: if you open synaptic, and search for -dev, you can see some of the things you need
[05:42] <nalioth> jrattner1: it wont hurt to have anything you see there installed
[05:42] <jrattner1> nalioth, sounds good
[05:43] <drogoh> eyequeue, I always entitle myself to one stray character every so often, more so when I'm tired.
[05:43] <jrattner1> nalioth, I cant wait to be able to hook up my phone to my laptop and stuff
[05:43] <IceDrag0nLX> Hey
[05:43] <nalioth> jrattner1: bluetooth is kewl
[05:43] <IceDrag0nLX> again
[05:43] <eyequeue> drogoh:  i am a lousy typist, just give myself one pedantic comment every so often, heh
[05:43] <jrattner1> nalioth, then I will have no need to use windows ever again, as long as I can sync my calendar from my phone to some program in KDE
[05:44] <bdunn> I am wanting to check out Ubuntu (use Gentoo now).  Is there something seriously wrong with ubuntuforums.org?
[05:44] <IceDrag0nLX> Is there a manual/bible/guide to using the terminal?
[05:44] <nalioth> jrattner1: we could all wish to be free
[05:44] <nalioth> !tell IceDrag0nLX about cli
[05:44] <IceDrag0nLX> I have an rpm file that I am unable to install, and I how do I run executables?
[05:44] <eyequeue> IceDrag0nLX:  /usr/share/doc/bash-doc/ perhaps?
[05:44] <bimberi> bdunn: apparently down atm
[05:44] <nalioth> IceDrag0nLX: is the program unavailbe using ubuntu repos?
[05:44] <jsubl2> IceDrag0nLX: http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[05:44] <BOOMSHOT> nalioth: i pasted it in #flood
[05:45] <bdunn> bimberi: I've never been able to reach it.  Is it down a lot?
[05:45] <BOOMSHOT> I changed to a official mirror because of connectivity issues last night
[05:45] <jrattner1> nalioth, any ideas about syncing the calendar
[05:45] <drogoh> eyequeue, I should be ashamed of myself for typing that every time I type it.
[05:45] <bimberi> bdunn: not really, although a few times of late
[05:45] <nalioth> jrattner1: i dont own a bt celly, sorry
[05:45] <eyequeue> IceDrag0nLX:  ubuntu is .deb-based, not .rpm-based, try finding a .deb instead (man alien) ... running can be ./foo
[05:45] <bimberi> hi thoreauputic!
[05:45] <evil_k> i cant get into ubuntuforums.org either
[05:45] <drogoh> If you knew my line of work, you'd see the irony.
[05:45] <drogoh> evil_k, It's down.
[05:45] <thoreauputic> hi bimberi :)
[05:45] <evil_k> bummer
[05:45] <IceDrag0nLX> oh
[05:45] <IceDrag0nLX> :-=
[05:45] <IceDrag0nLX> :-\
[05:45] <eyequeue> drogoh:  heh
[05:45] <DavidLeeRoth> Hi, i am building a computer and i have a problem picking a case. The PC will run ubuntu linux exclusively. I am picking parts compatible for Vista though.
[05:46] <IceDrag0nLX> Where do I get Java?
[05:46] <Noah0504> I added all of the extra repositories, but when I search for nicotine in Synaptic, I get no results.
[05:46] <drogoh> DavidLeeRoth, Big spender...
[05:46] <IceDrag0nLX> Well, I got the Uplink demo, it comes in a tar.gz, so I extract it and there's the uplink executable
[05:46] <IceDrag0nLX> how would I run that?
[05:46] <nalioth> !tell IceDrag0nLX about java
[05:46] <IceDrag0nLX> Double clicking gives me an error
[05:46] <BOOMSHOT> nalioth: i pasted sources.list in #flood
[05:47] <eyequeue> IceDrag0nLX:  no idea what it is ... ./filenamehere as an example
[05:47] <ksmurf> sorry to bother you.... but how do you add a non standard repository to be trusted?  I gpg the key from a keyserver but now how do I add that to synapitic?
[05:47] <breakthestate> url or other resource for apt-getting mplayer on ubuntu?
[05:47] <nalioth> !tell ksmurf about repos
[05:47] <eyequeue> ksmurf:  man apt-key ... i think it's sudo apt-key add whatever
[05:47] <IceDrag0nLX> eyequeue, it says permission denied, and I ran it as root and the account it belongs too
[05:47] <drogoh> Stupid Freenode.
[05:48] <eyequeue> IceDrag0nLX:  did you chmod +x filename, first?
[05:48] <IceDrag0nLX> Oy, will I be able to use cedega on ubuntu?
[05:48] <eyequeue> IceDrag0nLX: try that
[05:48] <IceDrag0nLX> no
[05:48] <IceDrag0nLX> I will
[05:48] <IceDrag0nLX> hold
[05:48] <drogoh> Why oh why did they have to go and screw with hybrid?
[05:48] <eyequeue> IceDrag0nLX: i sure hope this thing is safe to run, no guarantees if it's not, heh
[05:48] <drogoh> Hyperion sucks the choad.
[05:48] <IceDrag0nLX> eyequeue, it is
[05:48] <drogoh> ;/
[05:48] <eagleye> Hey, tristanmike, private msg me.. if you can..
[05:49] <ksmurf> eyequeue I read tah man page and tried but it is looking for a file not a url
[05:49] <IceDrag0nLX> But, I noticed ubuntu doesnt support 3d acceleration, does that mean I will be unable to use cedega?
[05:49] <Noah0504> If I install the mad package, will that allow MP3 playback in amaroK?
[05:49] <tritium> IceDrag0nLX, what do you mean ubuntu doesn't support 3D acceleration?
[05:49] <MadpilotPPC> IceDrag0nLX, which 3d card do you have?
[05:49] <DavidLeeRoth> i am getting the MACH SPEED VIPER mobo ATX AMD64 edition, but i am having a hard time finding a case that fits it
[05:50] <tristanmike> eagleye, close your dialog with me
[05:50] <eyequeue> ksmurf:  okay, cool, here's how to get a file, okay?  gpg --armor --export (keyidgoeshere) > foo.asc ; sudo apt-key add foo.asc
[05:50] <DavidLeeRoth> anyone help please?
[05:50] <eagleye> i did
[05:50] <IceDrag0nLX> MadpilotPPC, GeForce 4 ti 4700
[05:50] <IceDrag0nLX> *4800
[05:50] <IceDrag0nLX> runs games great in windows
[05:50] <evil_k> i can see the files on my ntfs drive, but can i read them? (xmms locks up when i try to play mp3s)
[05:50] <DavidLeeRoth> I am getting a 9600tx 256 ded ram for vista
[05:50] <eyequeue> ksmurf:  if it's not obvious, that puts an ascii-armored version of the key in foo.asc
[05:50] <IceDrag0nLX> Should be gettinging a 7800 GT in SLi soon
[05:50] <ksmurf> eyequeue thanks
[05:50] <eyequeue> ksmurf:  np
[05:51] <tritium> IceDrag0nLX, there'
[05:51] <IceDrag0nLX> evil_k, works fine for me
[05:51] <tritium> s nvidia support in ubuntu
[05:51] <puff> i'm having some problems with my wireless hardware, eth1 didn't show up in ifconfig, but when I ran the System/Admin/Networking applet, it showed up there, but grayed out and "unconfigured".  Once i configured it (selecting a network, telling it to use dhcp) it ungrayed and i could activate it.
[05:51] <evil_k> is there a patch or anything?
[05:51] <puff> How would/should i have looked for this at the shell prompt?
[05:51] <breakthestate> puff
[05:51] <tristanmike> eagleye, I'm doing it, I don't know what's going on
[05:52] <IceDrag0nLX> ./uplink: relocation error: ./uplink: undefined symbol: __glutRoot
[05:52] <IceDrag0nLX>  <-- error I got when I chmodded +x then ran it './uplink'
[05:52] <breakthestate> has your wireless hardware worked in the past?
[05:52] <DavidLeeRoth> does anyone here have experience with PC building?
[05:52] <eagleye> ok,,
[05:52] <IceDrag0nLX> DavidLeeRoth, I do
[05:52] <puff> Goddamn it, I'm *using* the wireless right now, but when I just reloaded the network applet, it shows as "unconfigured" again.
[05:52] <tritium> puff, interfaces are configured in /etc/network/interfaces
[05:52] <puff> breakthestate: Yeah, it worked fine.
[05:53] <breakthestate> puff, when you run ifconfig does wlan0 show up?
[05:53] <MadpilotPPC> !tell IceDrag0nLX about nvidia
[05:54] <puff> http://pastebin.com/374336
[05:54] <puff> no, but eth1 shows up - now.
[05:54] <tritium> puff, configure it in /etc/network/interfaces
[05:54] <DavidLeeRoth> icedragonlx, are you there?
[05:54] <puff> tritium: nothing in /etc/network/interfaces mentions eth1.
[05:55] <puff> what should the line look like?
[05:55] <tritium> puff, man interfaces for some good documentation.  I'll give you a quick example too.
[05:55] <tritium> puff, auto eth1
[05:55] <tritium> iface eth1 inet dhcp
[05:56] <breakthestate> puff, iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[05:56] <breakthestate> ok, beat me, he he
[05:56] <breakthestate> except eth1 like he said
[05:56] <breakthestate> stupid me
[05:56] <puff> Hm, should i use wlan0 or eth1?  it defaulted to eth1.
[05:56] <eyequeue> use what it used :)
[05:56] <breakthestate> i say just use what works
[05:56] <nalioth> puff: eth1 is the default name for your wireless
[05:57] <breakthestate> anyone here use mplayer for ubuntu?
[05:57] <DavidLeeRoth> can anyone here help me with a mobo/atx case issue
[05:57] <sdali> Xine
[05:57] <ksmurf> eyequeue that's exactly what I needed.... Thanks
[05:57] <nalioth> DavidLeeRoth: if you give us some info, yes
[05:57] <eyequeue> ksmurf:  glad to
[05:57] <Crys_Win> DavidLeeRoth: what's the issue?
[05:58] <Crys_Win> DavidLeeRoth: What form-factor is your motherboard?
[05:58] <evil_k> is there a reason im not getting audio from any media players?
[05:58] <DavidLeeRoth> Ok, i am buiding my own pc to have the sys req for vista - 256ded mem video card, cpu, etc
[05:58] <puff> Okay, so add those lines and then do i need to /etc/init.d/networking reload
[05:58] <DavidLeeRoth> i am buying this mobo
[05:58] <DavidLeeRoth> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813187010
[05:58] <azteech> have really slow internet connection happening with ubuntu 5.10 .... believe it is due to ipv6 being enabled. how can I turn off/disable ipv6 in breezy (pre)
[05:58] <breakthestate> evil: do you get audio from other things?
[05:58] <DavidLeeRoth> and i am having a hard time finding an ATX case to fit it
[05:59] <sdali> Has anyone successfully upgraded libc6 to 2.3.2.ds1-21? If so, please tell me where you got it, and how you installed it.
[05:59] <evil_k> i hear ubuntu's sound effects
[05:59] <DavidLeeRoth> it has a weird nic/usb layout
[05:59] <breakthestate> evil - try running alsaconf in a terminal and see what happens
[05:59] <DavidLeeRoth> but this mobo is the greatest for price and because its compatible with linux
[05:59] <DavidLeeRoth> it will run linux exclusively
[05:59] <iverson0881> any timeframe for when the forums will be back up?
[05:59] <DavidLeeRoth> and MAYBE VISTA in the futur
[06:00] <DavidLeeRoth> can anyone help?
[06:00] <nalioth> DavidLeeRoth: that mobo should be fine (if and when vista actually releases)
[06:00] <tritium> breakthestate, there is no alsaconf
[06:00] <Linux_whore> this is too long for here goto http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=367041
[06:00] <breakthestate> okay, thx, i'm going to stop giving advice
[06:00] <evil_k> i get "alsaconf: command not found"
[06:00] <breakthestate> actually, i'm really sry
[06:00] <crimsun> sdali: do not mess with libc6 if you don't know darned well what you're doing.
[06:00] <breakthestate> i need to realize ubuntu is quite diff than other linux distros
[06:01] <DavidLeeRoth> because its the best breakthestate
[06:01] <tritium> it's fairly similar to debian
[06:01] <crimsun> breakthestate: alsaconf was removed, like tritium said, because it's a horribly maintained, insecure application.
[06:01] <WebLOCH> crimsun, you got the madphat sound skills, i saw your name on the wiki yo.
[06:01] <vladuz976> i was trying to post to the forum but that website is down. can someone here help me with sound and usb in breezy?
[06:01] <sdali> crimsum: I _don't_ know what I'm doing. :) I want to install transcode, but it needs the updated libc6
[06:01] <Crys_Win> DavidLeeRoth: I see the motherboard. What's the problem exactly?
[06:01] <nalioth> DavidLeeRoth: atx case
[06:01] <breakthestate> yeah, i know, but most of the other debian-based distros i've tried had things work that work in debian
[06:01] <breakthestate> i know ubuntu is better
[06:01] <breakthestate> just different
[06:01] <crimsun> sdali: transcode is in breezy/multiverse
[06:02] <breakthestate> crimsun: what does ubuntu use?
[06:02] <crimsun> sdali: don't even think about trying to fudge libc6 into your Ubuntu system
[06:02] <breakthestate> in place of alsaconf?
[06:02] <sdali> crimsun: but it tells me that it needs the updated libc6
[06:02] <paulproteus> Do any of you use a download accelerator program?
[06:02] <crimsun> breakthestate: udev+hotplug
[06:02] <breakthestate> cool
[06:02] <paulproteus> When I'm at university, it'd be nice to have a program that could look for mirrors of a file and download from as many sources as possible.
[06:02] <paulproteus> Even if I had to give it a list of mirrors, downloading from multiple sources could be a win, I think.
[06:03] <crimsun> sdali: you should test breezy, then, since transcode is in breezy/multiverse
[06:03] <evil_k> breakthestate:  "alsaconf: command not found"
[06:03] <Crys_Win> DavidLeeRoth: I don't see any reason it wouldn't fit. Have you actually got it and been trying it in cases?
[06:03] <breakthestate> evil I'm sry i was giving advice based on my experience with other linux distros
[06:03] <evil_k> oh ok
[06:03] <sdali> crimsun: Here's a duh question for you. Can I use Breezy "ports" if I've got Hoary loaded?
[06:03] <evil_k> i got a dvd playing in totem, but no sound
[06:04] <kevin06> Sound sucks. It's overrated anyway. :-P
[06:04] <breakthestate> evil_k: have you double clicked the volume icon in the upper right
[06:04] <breakthestate> i had to turn up the PCM meter on mine?
[06:04] <B_166-ER-X> is it REALLY dangerous (like, loose all data on the Nux HD)  to upgrade to breezy ?
[06:04] <crimsun> sdali: there are backports for hoary based on breezy packages. I don't recommend them generally.
[06:04] <paulproteus> B_166-ER-X: No.'
[06:04] <nalioth> DavidLeeRoth: atx case with big mondo power supply
[06:04] <evil_k> its all maxed out
[06:04] <breakthestate> k
[06:04] <nalioth> B_166-ER-X: turning on your box could do that
[06:05] <B_166-ER-X> ...
[06:05] <B_166-ER-X> never happened tought
[06:05] <B_166-ER-X> -t
[06:05] <sdali> crimsun: Thanks for the help.
[06:06] <tritium> nalioth, is your power restored yet?
[06:06] <Crys_Win> DavidLeeRoth: You need to check that other window. I typed to you.
[06:06] <breakthestate> evil_k: i don't know what to say, i'm new to the ubuntu distro
[06:06] <nalioth> tritium: nope.
[06:07] <evil_k> thanks
[06:07] <evil_k> in new to linux completely
[06:07] <evil_k> at least i know dos
[06:09] <karan> firefox
[06:09] <WebLOCH> is evil
[06:09] <eyequeue> B_166-ER-X:  many of us are on breezy now
[06:10] <evil_k> hey i think i found something on it
[06:10] <eyequeue> B_166-ER-X:  the closer to the release date (oct 13) the safer, generally
[06:10] <durt> thats not very nice webloch :P
[06:10] <karan> when i press / to search in a big html document, it just puts a lot of load on the cpu
[06:10] <nalioth> WebLOCH: keep your petrol in -offtopic, please
[06:10] <WebLOCH> durt, im not allowed to express my views on firefox in an amusing fashion?  No humour allowed?
[06:10] <jrattner1> Anyone here familiar with bluetooth and kdebluetooth
[06:11] <durt> i was trying to be sarcastic webloch
[06:11] <WebLOCH> durt, ahh sorry
[06:11] <sdali> Can anyone tell me why it's not recommended to build from source when using Ubuntu? I built libssh2 from source, and I came to this channel and was told that it wasn't wise to have done that. I don't understand why it is a bad idea, and in general it seems kind of limiting to have to wait for someone to port software to Ubuntu if I want to use it. Can anyone clear this up for me?
[06:11] <WebLOCH> durt, its late, im tired, im poor at the interpretation :(
[06:11] <durt> yeah its midnight now and i crashed xfce im out
[06:11] <IceDrag0nLX> wtf do I keep getting a permission denied when I try to ./ a file
[06:12] <thoreauputic> WebLOCH: all contrary views will be ruthlessly censored! Toe the Ubuntu line! We have ways! *grin*
[06:12] <eyequeue> humour definitely can sometimes fail to translate well in online communication, lets all just smile for a sec :)
[06:12] <WebLOCH> does KDE have any benefits over Gnome?
[06:12] <thechris> sdali: its generally best to use packages from your distro.  that way the package manager knows you have it and can update it if needed
[06:12] <IceDrag0nLX> ok good now
[06:12] <WebLOCH> thoreauputic, haha, I blieve you, ill come quiet :(
[06:12] <thoreauputic> :D
[06:12] <eyequeue> WebLOCH:  i perfer the other, but .... similarity to ms-feel?  might be handy for some
[06:12] <nalioth> WebLOCH: personal preference only
[06:13] <nalioth> WebLOCH: there are dozens of DMs available. try them all, use what appeals to you
[06:13] <WebLOCH> hmm gnome seems to be running quite nicely, im interested in trying KDE, but i dont want to download an entire distribution to try it
[06:13] <eyequeue> WebLOCH:  keep in mind i prefer gnome myself <salt grain>
[06:13] <sdali> thechris: yes, but that basically says don't use any software that isn't in the distro.
[06:13] <sdali> and that seems to tie my hands.
[06:13] <WebLOCH> nalioth, eyequeue, aside from gnome and kde, is there anything that compares in the gdm world?
[06:13] <thoreauputic> WebLOCH: you can install kubuntu-desktop
[06:14] <eyequeue> WebLOCH:  bum a livecd of kubuntu or knoppix from a friend?
[06:14] <nalioth> WebLOCH: try enlightenment
[06:14] <thechris> sdali: libssh isn't in ubuntu?
[06:14] <tritium> sdali, what do you need that you can't find in ubuntu?
[06:14] <caustictwin> does build-essentials come natively with breezy badger?
[06:14] <WebLOCH> eyequeue, my friends, run Windows ME :P
[06:14] <WebLOCH> nalioth, ty ill look it up
[06:14] <tritium> caustictwin, build-essential can be installed in breezy
[06:14] <thoreauputic> caustictwin:  build-essential - and it should be on the cd ready to install
[06:14] <eyequeue> WebLOCH:  and you call them friends? ;)  j/k
[06:14] <caustictwin> thanks
[06:14] <sdali> thechris: libssh2 wasn't at the revision that I needed (if I remember correctly)
[06:14] <thechris> sdali: you can compile stuff yourself, but then it becomes your responsibility to keep it up to date and make sure it doens't overwrite files from other pacakges.
[06:15] <azteech> can anyone tell me if there is a breezy 686 kernel available for a athlon xp based system, and, if so, is it available from apt-get?
[06:15] <thechris> sdali: did you try all the "repositories"
[06:15] <WebLOCH> eyequeue, not really, they abandoned me, but they are the closest thing i have to friends
[06:15] <sdali> tritium: I need libc6 so I can load transcode.
[06:15] <IceDrag0nLX> sh script
[06:15] <IceDrag0nLX> how do I run them
[06:15] <tritium> sdali, surely you have libc6
[06:15] <IceDrag0nLX> I tried bash filenamehere.sh
[06:15] <Crys_Win> DavidLeeRoth: Man, if you really wanna know the answer you show it wierd.
[06:15] <IceDrag0nLX> AND bash filenamehere
[06:15] <eyequeue> azteech:  i think you want the -k7 for that
[06:16] <sdali> tritium: Not at the correct version for transcode.
[06:16] <tritium> azteech, and yes, it's available from the repositories
[06:16] <B_166-ER-X> is upgrading to breezy as simple as https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade?highlight=%28breezy%29
[06:16] <B_166-ER-X> ?
[06:16] <tritium> sdali, "correct" may not be a good choice of words
[06:16] <DShepherd> How do I make the background in my gnome-terminal window in ubuntu transparent
[06:17] <nalioth> B_166-ER-X: yes it is
[06:17] <thoreauputic> B_166-ER-X: yes
[06:17] <eyequeue> IceDrag0nLX:  first, are you sure it's a bash script?
[06:17] <tritium> DShepherd, edit the profile
[06:17] <sdali> tritium: How about "at a revision that will allow synaptic to load transcode"?
[06:17] <IceDrag0nLX> eyequeue,  yes
[06:17] <IceDrag0nLX> it says sh
[06:17] <DShepherd> tritium: Where do I find the profile?
[06:17] <IceDrag0nLX> I checked the file and it had #!/bin/bash
[06:18] <eyequeue> IceDrag0nLX:  head -1 foo.sh
[06:18] <tritium> DShepherd, Edit->Current Profile
[06:18] <azteech> tks eyequeue and tritium
[06:18] <tritium> sdali, you might consider breezy
[06:18] <sdali> thechris: I tried all of the repos that I know of.
[06:18] <eyequeue> IceDrag0nLX:  k.  chmod +x foo.sh ; ./foo.sh
[06:18] <DShepherd> tritium: Thanks
[06:18] <eyequeue> azteech:  np
[06:19] <julien> hello all
[06:19] <sdali> tritium: That's a whole new ball of wax. I was on FC4, and it felt like I could build and install whatever SW I needed. I'm feeling knid of manacled with Ubuntu now.
[06:19] <julien> anyone know how to launch sh file at boot before X ?
[06:20] <nalioth> sdali: you can build and install anything you like. use "checkinstall" instead of "make install"
[06:20] <tritium> sdali, you can build whatever you need.  Just be able to maintain your own system.
[06:20] <sdali> tritium: DOes that mean giving up on synaptic and apt-get?
[06:20] <caustictwin> where would one look to find the mac address of their computer?
[06:20] <caustictwin> is that in network-admin?
[06:20] <nalioth> sdali: if you use "checkinstall" instead of 'make install' apt will still work well
[06:20] <sdali> nalioth: I hadn't heard of that option, but will look it up.
[06:21] <tritium> sdali, no, not in general.  Just make sure what you install doesn't overwrite system files, just like in any other distro, including rpm-based ones.
[06:21] <IceDrag0nLX> eyequeue, every time I chmod it says file cannot be located
[06:21] <thechris> sdali: nothings changed, in FC4 its still not a good idea to build your own packages.
[06:21] <IceDrag0nLX> I made sure the file is there
[06:21] <IceDrag0nLX> I know it is there
[06:21] <eyequeue> IceDrag0nLX:  is it in your current directory?  home directory?
[06:21] <IceDrag0nLX> oh damn
[06:21] <IceDrag0nLX> it works
[06:21] <evil_k> well i got mp3s working
[06:21] <eyequeue> IceDrag0nLX:  okay
[06:21] <julien> please ....anyone ?
[06:22] <tritium> sdali, it's not about limiting your options.  It's about what configurations we can support here.  Please feel free to do as you please.  Just understand we can't alsways help out when things go wrong after intstalling your own stuff.
[06:22] <eyequeue> julien:  you could create an /etc/init.d/whatever to run at a lower priority
[06:22] <sdali> I guess I've got some experimenting to do. I'm sure I'll overwrite some files, and end up back here asking for help. :)
[06:22] <nalioth> !tell julien about repeat
[06:23] <eyequeue> julien:  man update-rc.d for details on how, if interested
[06:23] <julien> sorry
[06:23] <julien> invoke before every start of X Server:
[06:23] <julien> ./i8xx_patch 30 1280 768
[06:23] <julien> i need to start that before X
[06:23] <capiCrimm> I'm having some troubles with apt-get http://pastebin.com/374348
[06:24] <julien> so i made sh put on /etc/init.d
[06:24] <julien> but it seem start X before my script
[06:24] <tritium> julien, please follow eyequeue's guidance
[06:25] <eyequeue> julien:  you could create an /etc/init.d/pre-x at priority 12
[06:25] <sdali> capiCrimm: You're having libc6 problems too I see.
[06:25] <julien> i done the update-rc.d
[06:25] <eyequeue> julien:  (gdm is 13)
[06:25] <nAmSbReH`> how do i start wine.....
[06:25] <julien> you could create an /etc/init.d/pre-x at priority 12 ???
[06:26] <sdali> nAmSbReH`: firs you start with the cheese, not wine. ;)
[06:26] <eyequeue> julien:  write it, then use update-rc.d to put it at 12
[06:26] <nAmSbReH`> i have finished istalling wine how do i start it?
[06:26] <julien> eye can i PM u ?
[06:26] <capiCrimm> sdali, you too? find any fixess?
[06:26] <eyequeue> okay
[06:26] <sdali> Nope, It was suggested that I don't mess with libc6.
[06:27] <crimsun> geez, how do you guys into these horrible situations with libc6?
[06:27] <tritium> messing with libc6 is among the riskiest things you could do
[06:27] <crimsun> get into
[06:27] <nAmSbReH`> c'mon man help me.... how do start wine?
[06:27] <bedi> winesetup
[06:27] <crimsun> capiCrimm: apt-cache policy libmysqlclient14-dev
[06:27] <firestor1> Howdy. When I search for 'mythtv' in synaptic it shows the latest version as 0.17. The MythTV website shows the current version to be 0.18.1-r2. How can I install the latest version? Are my sources wrong?
[06:27] <nalioth> nAmSbReH`: open a terminal and type 'wine /path/to/windows/bloat.exe'
[06:27] <crimsun> firestor1: the latest version is in breezy
[06:28] <nAmSbReH`> tnx
[06:28] <firestor1> crimsun: okay I must be set up for hoary then....how do I change to breezy?
[06:28] <bedi> who can i find breezy backport repositories... or a sources.list... tkz!
[06:28] <nalioth> !tell firestor1 about upgrade2breezy
[06:29] <capiCrimm> crimsum, you wanted the runoff? http://pastebin.com/374353
[06:29] <padmawan> firestor1: read /topic
[06:29] <cafuego_> bedi: Breezy isn't stable, so no backports.
[06:29] <firestor1> padmawan, nalioth, crimsun: thanks :)
[06:30] <crimsun> capiCrimm: ugh, the reason should be pretty obvious to you.
[06:30] <bimberi> bedi: sample breezy sources.list - http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325
[06:30] <B_166-ER-X> in synaptic is http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu, and  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ the same thing ???
[06:30] <evil_k> !tell evil_k about upgrade2breezy
[06:30] <firestor1> How dangerous is it to run Breezy instead of Hoary in your experiences?
[06:31] <padmawan> firestor1: it's a little bit slow during startup
[06:31] <thoreauputic> B_166-ER-X: yes, in fact I think they point at the same server (haven't actually checked that)
[06:31] <nalioth> firestor1: if you depend on your machine for your livelihood, wait until oct 13
[06:31] <capiCrimm> crimsum, I'm not seeing it? :/
[06:31] <eyequeue> firestor1:  the closer to the release date (oct 13) the safer, generally
[06:31] <nAmSbReH`> when i install wine this appears.....E: Unable to find a source package for wine ... what does tgis means?
[06:32] <firestor1> eyequeue: so on oct 13 it will be considered stable then?
[06:32] <B_166-ER-X> Any1 one breezy have a  http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu source ?
[06:32] <crimsun> capiCrimm: whenever you use external (non-Ubuntu) repositories, don't be surprised when things will not install
[06:32] <nalioth> firestor1: yes it will
[06:32] <tristanmike> firestor1, that's the date as of now
[06:32] <eyequeue> firestor1:  that's the current release date, though hoary was a few days late
[06:33] <Arkainium> damn.  what are some possible reasons why I can't suspend/resume more than once?  It makes no sense.
[06:33] <signbarn> what's a good RSS/Atom aggregator?
[06:33] <tristanmike> eagleye, are you getting my messages?
[06:33] <tritium> Arkainium, did you forget to use the new coversheet with your TPS report?
[06:33] <capiCrimm> crimsum, that doesn't explain why (a) it worked before and (b) mysqlclient12-dev shoots simmilar errors. http://pastebin.com/374356
[06:33] <linner> tritium: my favorite movie!
[06:33] <eyequeue> B_166-ER-X:  deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted universe multiverse
[06:33] <nAmSbReH`> when i type this command <apt-get --build source wine> this appears.....E: Unable to find a source package for wine ... what does tgis means?
[06:33] <Arkainium> lol
[06:33] <tritium> hey linner :)
[06:34] <linner> tritium: i have an office space quote as a ring tone :)O
[06:34] <eyequeue> B_166-ER-X:  us and ca are apparently the same host, substitute
[06:34] <linner> hey tritium
[06:34] <tritium> linner, no way.  Which one?
[06:34] <linner> the one about how humans are not supposed to be crammed into little cubes etc
[06:34] <tritium> nice
[06:35] <linner> I have three actually
[06:35] <B_166-ER-X> ok thx
[06:35] <IceDrag0nLX> If I want somthing in the launch menu
[06:35] <tritium> Arkainium, are you using breezy?
[06:35] <IceDrag0nLX> where does it go?
[06:35] <linner> "Um, yeah... this is Bill Lump.... ahhhhhhhh yeah... this is Bill...... " the answering machine quote
[06:35] <Arkainium> tritium, hoary.
[06:35] <crimsun> capiCrimm: uh, why doesn't it explain it? You're trying to install packages from a repository external to Ubuntu's. Ubuntu doesn't control that repository, someone else does. Someone else compiled those packages against versions that aren't in Ubuntu.
[06:35] <linner> Arkainium: hey there
[06:35] <cafebaby> hell here
[06:35] <Arkainium> linner, hey
[06:36] <tritium> And what happens when you try to suspend more than once?
[06:36] <firestor1> Does Breezy have a linux kernel image for 2.6.13 or 2.6.12?
[06:36] <linner> nalioth: hey there :)
[06:36] <crimsun> firestor1: 2.6.12
[06:36] <Arkainium> tritium, it suspends fine.  when i resume the second time, it locks up.
[06:36] <tritium> DavidLeeRoth, perhaps spandex to match your outfit
[06:36] <linner> Arkainium: I'm having the same problem... do you have an ATI card?
[06:36] <DavidLeeRoth> o you guys, i was in a band
[06:36] <DavidLeeRoth> we had some hits
[06:37] <Crys_Win> Ubuntu runs wicked slow on my ppc. Is there something better?
[06:37] <linner> 
[06:37] <crimsun> capiCrimm: in other words, purge your non-Ubuntu mysql packages, remove the non-Ubuntu repo, update, and reinstall the mysql packages you want.
[06:37] <cafuego_> Crys_Win: What ppc is it?
[06:37] <Arkainium> linner, resume works fine for me.  Just not when I do it more than once.  :)
[06:37] <HrdwrBoB> crimsun: yes, an x86 ;)
[06:37] <eyequeue> Crys_Win:  typically, more ram
[06:37] <linner> Arkainium: :)
[06:37] <Arkainium> linner, I'm using the radeon dri driver, not fglrx.
[06:37] <firestor1> crimsun: is it possible to use the 2.6.12 kernel image with my hoary install? I'm on 2.6.11 and it has some kernel-related problems I think
[06:38] <cafuego_> Crys_Win: It runs fine on a 350MHz iMac (grape) with 192Mb ram here
[06:38] <crimsun> HrdwrBoB: Crys_Win?
[06:38] <linner> oh okay... I was about to give you the same schpeel ;)
[06:38] <HrdwrBoB> crimsun: er yeah
[06:38] <tritium> Arkainium, hard?  Can't do any diagnostics?
[06:38] <cafuego_> Crys_Win: Ditto on a 1.4GHz Mac mini with 1Gb RAM
[06:38] <capiCrimm> security.ubuntu.com and us.archive.ubuntu.com are outside of  ubuntu's control?
[06:38] <julien> sudo update-rc.d -f i8xx.sh defaults 12
[06:38] <julien>  System startup links for /etc/init.d/i8xx.sh already exist.
[06:38] <crimsun> firestor1: does Hoary's 2.6.10 not work?
[06:38] <Crys_Win> Sorry, it's a first line Imac.
[06:38] <julien> how to force it ?
[06:38] <crimsun> capiCrimm: no, the other one.
[06:38] <cafuego_> Crys_Win: How much ram does it have?
[06:38] <cafebaby> mac-mini < 3G is crap
[06:38] <Arkainium> tritium, keyboard becomes unresponsive.  let me check syslog though
[06:39] <cafebaby> low e/p
[06:39] <Crys_Win> Something wrong with it though, cuz it don't have the flap for me to add ram.
[06:39] <firestor1> crimsun: it may but I'd like to try 2.6.12 if it is easy enough to do
[06:39] <cafuego_> Crys_Win: No flap? Howso? (We're talking blueberry, right?)
[06:39] <crimsun> firestor1: it's much easier to use Hoary's 2.6.10 if you're running Hoary.
[06:39] <sdali> Arkainium: I just tried it, and it works for me.
[06:39] <evil_k> why dont i know the root pw on this thing?
[06:39] <Crys_Win> cafuego_, I think it has something like 64 or 128
[06:40] <tritium> evil_k, because if you didn't set one, there's not one
[06:40] <evil_k> or am i not supposed to login as root
[06:40] <Crys_Win> No, cafuego_ We're talking bondi.
[06:40] <tritium> !tell evil_k about rootsudo
[06:40] <thoreauputic> !tell evil_k about root
[06:40] <firestor1> crimsun: okay I will do that. Just out of interest, how could I have used it with Hoary? Because there may be a need in the future to install testing version of package X while having stable version of all other packages
[06:40] <crimsun> firestor1: you dist-upgrade to breezy.
[06:40] <eyequeue> julien:  sudo update-rc.d -f i8xx.sh remove ; sudo update-rc.d -f i8xx.sh start 12 2 3 4 5 . stop 12 2 3 4 5 .
[06:41] <cafuego_> Crys_Win: 64 is the default on those, I think.  yes, 64 or 128 is a tad on the low side for Ubuntu with Gnome. Give something like say fluxbox or openbox  try, they use FAR less ram and should be far more responsive.
[06:41] <bimberi> *decides
[06:41] <julien> thx eye
[06:41] <signbarn> why can i not find the j2re1.5 in breezy repositories?
[06:41] <firestor1> crimsun: so it is an all-or-nothing approach then?
[06:41] <eyequeue> julien:  presuiming you want it to stop at 12, that's up to you
[06:41] <grigora> I am experiencing my ssh sessions getting a timeout through a Linksys router/switch, it takes a few seconds for the connection to revive, is anyone experiencing similar behavior? thanks
[06:41] <capiCrimm> crimsum, if I delete the dotdeb archieves I still get an error with the ubunte archieve packages http://pastebin.com/374358
[06:41] <cafuego_> signbarn: Coz it's not in there?
[06:41] <Crys_Win> cafuego_ can I install that from synaptic?
[06:41] <crimsun> firestor1: you can download the appropriate linux-* debs, and install them.
[06:41] <cafuego_> Crys_Win: Yep.
[06:42] <crimsun> firestor1: of course you're on your own if you do that
[06:42] <cafuego_> Crys_Win: Soemthing that needs a bit more ram, but is also a bit more integrated, would be xfce4.
[06:42] <signbarn> cafuego_: it just seems strange to me that the version would go _down_ in breezy
[06:42] <eyequeue> julien:  read /etc/init.d/skeleton for an example
[06:42] <killapop> hi All. where can I find a log of the bootup sequence?
[06:42] <crimsun> capiCrimm: did you update after you removed the dotdeb repo?
[06:42] <firestor1> crimsun: okay so I'd use dpkg to do that and it would break upgrades of that package using synaptic?
[06:42] <bimberi> thoreauputic: no more needed thanks (geez it took a while to type and check this :P )
[06:42] <cafuego_> signbarn: No, you're mistaken. The java 1.5 in hoary was *illegal* and should have never been in the repositories.
[06:42] <Crys_Win> cafuego_ will it just start up in blackbox next boot, or iwll it give me a chance to pick?
[06:43] <julien> oki eye i wil read
[06:43] <signbarn> cafuego_: fair enough
[06:43] <cafuego_> Crys_Win: It will come up with gdm (just log out, no reboot required). Then pick 'blackbox' from the Sessions menu.
[06:43] <crimsun> firestor1: that package then would ever be updated automatically, because security updates would always be versioned lower.
[06:43] <julien> sudo update-rc.d -f i8xx.sh start 12 2 3 4 5 . stop 12 2 3 4 5 update-rc.d: error: expected runlevel [0-9S]  (did you forget "." ?)
[06:43] <crimsun> would never
[06:43] <thoreauputic> bimberi: heheh - would you like a copy of the Oxford Dictionary? bigger than Unix manuals and more useful ;)
[06:43] <eyequeue> julien:  sudo update-rc.d -f i8xx.sh remove ; sudo update-rc.d -f i8xx.sh start 12 2 3 4 5 . stop 12 2 3 4 5 . <-- see the trailing dot
[06:44] <Crys_Win> cafuego_ Thanks. I really like my bblean. Thnk I'll like openbox or fluxbox too?
[06:44] <bratsche> Hello.
[06:44] <cafuego_> Crys_Win: I'm used to Gnome, can't make up your mind for you ;-)
[06:44] <Breeeeee> i shared my linux folders using SMB.. but my windows PC cannot browse it since it asks for a password.. and im sure i didn't put any password over the folder... can anyone help??
[06:44] <bratsche> How do I start up my Ubuntu without X?  Is there a grub command I can use?
[06:44] <DavidLeeRoth> can anyone help me find a case
[06:44] <bimberi> thoreauputic: ha, no the Macquarie does nicely thanks :)
[06:44] <Arkainium> tritium, I notice in my acpid log that cardctl is ending with a seg fault when prepare.sh is called. but like I said, I can suspend just fine.
[06:44] <crimsun> bratsche: search the wiki for instructions to start without gdm
[06:44] <julien> oki ! i forgot one DOT
[06:44] <julien> :p
[06:44] <signbarn> anyone know if i get the j2sdk if i need the j2re? or does the j2sdk cover that?
[06:44] <bratsche> crimsun: Thanks.
[06:44] <Crys_Win> DavidLeeRoth:  look me in the face as I say this.
[06:44] <eyequeue> bratsche:  remove the symlink to gdm in one runlevel and use that one
[06:44] <NiLz> what's colony?
[06:44] <cafuego_> Crys_Win: Ack, 32Mb is the default, actually.
[06:44] <thoreauputic> bimberi: bah - the Macquarie is a terrible dictionary IMO :(
[06:45] <crimsun> NiLz: a breezy milestone
[06:45] <eyequeue> bratsche:  this presumes you want it just occasionally
[06:45] <IceDrag0nLX> ./uplink: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:45] <IceDrag0nLX>  <-- wtf?
[06:45] <bratsche> eyequeue: I can't remove any symlinks right now.
[06:45] <NiLz> crimsun: is it a final release?
[06:45] <sdali> grigora: Try editing /etc/ssh/ssh_config, and set ConnectTimeout 0.
[06:45] <firestor1> crimsun: sorry, I misunderstood your last message. Security updates would happen automatically because version number is lower than what is really installed, resulting in a downgrade of version number..correct?
[06:45] <Breeeeee> i shared my linux folders using SMB.. but my windows PC cannot browse it since it asks for a password.. and im sure i didn't put any password over the folder... can anyone help??
[06:45] <bratsche> eyequeue: My xorg.conf file is hosed or something, and when I startup the system into X everything freezes and I can't use keyboard input.
[06:45] <crimsun> NiLz: no, it's a milestone on the road to the final release
[06:45] <julien> i reboot and test
[06:45] <julien> thx all speciall eye
[06:45] <julien> u rocks !
[06:45] <nalioth> Breeeeee: use the password for your linux account
[06:46] <concept10> I need help -- I upgraded to breezy last night and xserver will not start - it says it cannot find any screens .. any suggestions?
[06:46] <NiLz> crimsun: I see, thanx
[06:46] <cafuego_> Crys_Win: I'd have a search on google, see how to open it and add ram, if you can get your hands on some. (SDRAM is dirt cheap)
[06:46] <nAmSbReH`> If you want to make sure that apt-get will install the WineHQ wine package instead of the Debian wine package (which usually has the same version), then add something like the following entry to /etc/apt/preferences  > what does this means?
[06:46] <eyequeue> bratsche:  bbot to "recovery mode" from the grub menu
[06:46] <Crys_Win> DavidLeeRoth: If you've never built a computer, you haven't come across this, but in my experience, the plate in the back comes off and a new one comes with your mobo.
[06:46] <eyequeue> s/bbot/boot/
[06:46] <Crys_Win> DavidLeeRoth: does that solve the problem?
[06:46] <nAmSbReH`> If you want to make sure that apt-get will install the WineHQ wine package instead of the Debian wine package (which usually has the same version), then add something like the following entry to /etc/apt/preferences  > what does this means?
[06:46] <bratsche> eyequeue: I'm searching the wiki for "recovery mode" and I don't see it.  What's the command?
[06:47] <DavidLeeRoth> i didnt see a plate coming with the mobo
[06:47] <DavidLeeRoth> im not a retard and i have built them befor
[06:47] <Crys_Win> cafuego_: I did that. BTW, it's sodimm for imacs.
[06:47] <DavidLeeRoth> usually they just work
[06:47] <eyequeue> bratsche:  okay, when you first boot into grub, you know the menu?  usually the second item is recovery mode
[06:47] <bratsche> eyequeue: Okay, I'll search for it.  Thanks.
[06:47] <eyequeue> bratsche:  np
[06:47] <nAmSbReH`> If you want to make sure that apt-get will install the WineHQ wine package instead of the Debian wine package (which usually has the same version), then add something like the following entry to /etc/apt/preferences  > what does this means?
[06:48] <nalioth> nAmSbReH`: /msg ubotu repeat
[06:48] <Crys_Win> DavidLeeRoth: I'm not calling you dumb, dude, chill. I'm just trying to help. There are screws and it comes off, and the plate comes with the mobo. Somebody back me up please?
[06:48] <cafuego_> Crys_Win: yeah, just saw. I've got a rev C I think,  that just eats whever the Pentium 3 here had.
[06:48] <tritium> nAmSbReH`, isn't that fairly self-explanatory, honestly?  What more can be said?
[06:48] <DavidLeeRoth> i am looking to see if the mobo comes with a plate
[06:48] <eyequeue> DavidLeeRoth:  he's straight with you, reread, no animosity either
[06:48] <DavidLeeRoth> http://www.machspeed.com/v64_939agp.htm
[06:48] <DavidLeeRoth> http://www.machspeed.com/v64_939agp.htm is the mobo i am buying
[06:49] <eyequeue> Crys_Win:  he?  or she?  sorry, if a shee
[06:49] <Crys_Win> It's cool. He. You can't get offended about that onlne.
[06:49] <eyequeue> heh
[06:49] <spermite> I'm trying to rememeber how to force a package to overwrite, give me a hand
[06:50] <julien> eye u rocks !! i love u !! now im in 1280x768 on my japanese laptop !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:50] <julien> u the best !
[06:50] <eyequeue> julien:  cool
[06:50] <linner> h
[06:50] <linner> sorry guys
[06:50] <eyequeue> spermite:  i'd use " sudo apt-get --reinstall install foo"
[06:50] <Jeezis> can someone tell me what i repo i should add to my sources.list so i can download the w32codecs package
[06:50] <crimsun> Jeezis: I just answered that.
[06:50] <Jeezis> crimsun: ah, just saw, thanks
[06:50] <julien> eye what is /etc/init.d/skeleton ?
[06:51] <Crys_Win> DavidLeeRoth: My mobo has a very similar plate. Also wouldn't go into the stock plate, but asus sent me a nice custom fit one in the box.
[06:51] <julien> how use it ?
[06:51] <nalioth> nickrud: you varmint! where you been?
[06:51] <nickrud> california, thank you
[06:51] <eyequeue> julien:  an example file, to base your hand-written /etc/init.d/* files upon
[06:51] <DavidLeeRoth> i hate my life
[06:51] <nalioth> nickrud: cali? rita wasnt that bad
[06:52] <eyequeue> julien:  sudo cp /etc/init.d/skeleton /etc/init.d/mynewfile and then edit mynewfile
[06:52] <nickrud> fofl, no
[06:52] <julien> i see
[06:52] <julien> i just newbies on linux only 2 week ...learning......but i learn quick and fast
[06:53] <julien> thanks for your support ...
[06:53] <eyequeue> julien: well, what you did is rather advanced for a newbie, you're doing well
[06:53] <Crys_Win> DavidLeeRoth: Don't hate your life. That case and that motherboard will work I think. That's gonna be a badass box. Do you have a gfx card picked out yet?
[06:53] <yellowrose> Hi! I'm having problems playing a VCD movie with music.dat file but no problem with DVD movies. What am I suppose to do? Totem could not determine type of stream
[06:53] <julien> thanks eye
[06:53] <julien> i try to dont ask ppl util im stuck
[06:53] <DavidLeeRoth> yeah, a 9600TX 256 dedicated ram
[06:54] <julien> and the french channel was not able to anwser me
[06:54] <eyequeue> julien: poking into man pages can make you an expert faster too :)
[06:54] <DavidLeeRoth> i havent picked out a screen yet because I am waiting for those HD screens
[06:54] <julien> yes u right
[06:54] <julien> i will try to use more man
[06:54] <Crys_Win> DavidLeeRoth: Fooken sweet. What are you gonna do with such a hardcore setup on linux. That's not a programmers box. You got wine and cedega in mind? A little bang bang? Some rpg?
[06:55] <julien> im so happy, after long time fighting im on 1280x768
[06:55] <julien> thats rocks
[06:55] <Crys_Win> julien: Congrats.
[06:55] <DavidLeeRoth> I would kill to program. I am not a hardcore gamer, but i will dual boot Vista/Ubuntu with ubuntu being my main man
[06:55] <B_166-ER-X> now :  if the install cd of Hoary takes a full cd.... and the update by terminal to breezy makes me install 266 megs,   there IS more data on the breezy version...so,  where does the overdata go ? is there jstue 250 megs or so that will sleep on my hd ? or will it jsut erase old data as well
[06:56] <DavidLeeRoth> and vmware will run, so i will have access to linux on windows, and vice versa
[06:56] <Crys_Win> DavidLeeRoth: What's vista? Never heard of that one. (simultaneously googling it.)
[06:56] <DavidLeeRoth> lol
[06:56] <eyequeue> DavidLeeRoth:  /usr/share/doc/diveinto/python/  is a nice place to start programming
[06:56] <DavidLeeRoth> i want c
[06:56] <DavidLeeRoth> or c++
[06:56] <eyequeue> DavidLeeRoth: oops  /usr/share/doc/diveintopython/  is a nice place to start programming
[06:56] <eyequeue> lots of c tutorials online
[06:56] <DavidLeeRoth> i have a 300 page booklet on it in pdf
[06:57] <DavidLeeRoth> but i want a tutor
[06:57] <snausages> how do i add 32-bit colors? do i edit xorg.conf? actually i tried that but i screwed up something and had to reinstall for the 19873865th time
[06:57] <DavidLeeRoth> i know an aussie who is quite patient
[06:57] <Crys_Win> DavidLeeRoth: Holy crap! A windows I know nothing about!!!
[06:57] <MadpilotPPC> Crys_Win, it's the new name for Longhorn, that's all
[06:57] <DavidLeeRoth> dude, duck and cover because the crap is hitting the fan on this one
[06:57] <julien> bye all now 7h00am and not sleep yet !! but screen fix, ist worth it !!
[06:57] <snausages> Crys_Win, your acting is very bad. =)
[06:57] <julien> bye
[06:58] <DavidLeeRoth> its a resource whore
[06:58] <kevogod> What's a windows?
[06:58] <eyequeue> snausages:  cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.safe, edit, test., cp backwards if it's broken
[06:58] <DavidLeeRoth> snausages, I love the 80's. I was in a band in the 80's once.
[06:58] <damnhil> How do I tune my hard disk using hdparm?
[06:58] <eyequeue> bye julien
[06:58] <bob2> DavidLeeRoth: language, please
[06:58] <kevogod> Windowey Windows
[06:58] <snausages> eyequeue i tried restoring it from a live cd boot and it was still screwed up
[06:59] <Crys_Win> DavidLeeRoth: Christ, what is it? Dude, what is vista? The website is vague and with only mild promise of getting less so.
[06:59] <eyequeue> snausages:  i guess a reinstall isn't painful if you'
[06:59] <eyequeue> re recently installed
[06:59] <snausages> eyequeue yeah, i just hate doing it over and over
[06:59] <snausages> i lost valuable time
[06:59] <DavidLeeRoth> crys, it will require great power (3.00ghz above, 256ded vid mem, 1 gig ram recommended, 2 is better, a monitor that ISNT EVEN MADE YET)
[06:59] <eyequeue> Crys_Win:  offtopic here, but vista is the codename for what used to be longhorn, ms's next os release
[07:00] <thoreauputic> Crys_Win: Various Improvements Similar To Apple
[07:00] <DavidLeeRoth> its insane
[07:00] <Crys_Win> ah!!!!! windows xp and Mac os mated!!!
[07:00] <DavidLeeRoth> its a joke
[07:00] <bob2> Windows seems kinda off-topic here, folks.
[07:00] <wthanna> I have recently installed Enlightenment E16 using synaptic, but it does not show as an option when I login. Can someone tell me what I might need to do to make this happen?
[07:00] <DavidLeeRoth> and it will come out in 7 diff versions, this is sink or float for MS
[07:00] <nickrud> thoreauputic
[07:00] <Crys_Win> I wanna play with it!!!
[07:01] <transgress_> didn't you guys read that longhorn is broken?
[07:01] <kevogod> It is not sink or float. As long as Dell and etc. bundle it, they are safe.
[07:01] <transgress_> MS said so themselves... and that they are chunking a massive amount of code
[07:01] <Crys_Win> DavidLeeRoth: With tech specs like that, it is sink.
[07:01] <eyequeue> #ubuntu-offtopic does exist, for those interested :)
[07:01] <Orborde> transgress_: Yeah...they said that about..2 years ago?
[07:01] <wbeck85> hey, uh, what happened to ubuntuforums.org?
[07:01] <Orborde> transgress_: And they have since fixed it.
[07:01] <eyequeue> wbeck85:  maintenence
[07:01] <wbeck85> oh
[07:01] <wbeck85> ok
[07:01] <adjacent> oh shit. update ubuntu only to find it breaks firefox...
[07:01] <Crys_Win> Linux just needs a good gui and some more wizards and it's gonna kill.
[07:02] <eyequeue> adjacent:  /topic
[07:02] <Orborde> Crys_Win: And it needs to work out of the box.
[07:02] <kevogod> No, Linux does not need any of that. They need to be prepackaged with a Dell or HP computer.
[07:02] <bob2> adjacent: sure it's not because you're using backports?
[07:02] <transgress_> Orborde: you're wrong.  this is recent.
[07:02] <nalioth> adjacent: disable backports
[07:02] <Orborde> transgress_: Link?
[07:02] <adjacent> bob2: im sure it is
[07:02] <DavidLeeRoth> linux needs developers, developers, developers, developers, developers, developers,
[07:02] <wbeck85> flol
[07:02] <DavidLeeRoth> I love this company!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:02] <transgress_> http://www.smartofficenews.com.au/Computing/Platforms_And_Applications?article=/Computing/Platforms%20And%20Applications/News/E5T7U6H8 Orborde
[07:02] <eyequeue> DavidLeeRoth:  lol
[07:03] <thoreauputic> DavidLeeRoth: rofl
[07:03] <adjacent> DavidLeeRoth: linux needs less developers... it needs more project managers
[07:03] <crimsun> uh what? fewer developers? Are you nuts? ;)
[07:03] <din> gn
[07:03] <DShepherd> will breexy be shipping the latest version of gaim
[07:03] <adjacent> i guess you havent found out yet that 95% of software out there is crap
[07:03] <crimsun> DShepherd: the latest at the time of freeze, yes
[07:03] <tritium> !info gaim breezy
[07:03] <ubotu> gaim: (multi-protocol instant messaging client), section net, is optional. Version: 1:1.5.0-1ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 814 kB, Installed size: 2148 kB
[07:03] <DShepherd> k
[07:03] <crimsun> adjacent: and adding management infrastructure will HELP that?
[07:04] <Orborde> transgress_: Oh, yeah. The WSJ article. Thing is, they are apparently fixing it to the max.
[07:04] <supergrover> adjacent: yeah yeah
[07:04] <transgress_> Orborde: like they did all the other releases right?
[07:04] <Crys_Win> if aqua was ported to linux, you'd have the games and the free. Too bad it'd never happen.
[07:04] <adjacent> heh. im big on formal training... whatever
[07:04] <Orborde> transgress_: All that happened was that their old methodology finally broke down, and now they're adopting a more modern approach that is indeed likely to be more efficient.
[07:05] <kevogod> When I try to install Opera 8.5 shared on Breezy, I receive a dependency error telling me that I need libqt3c102-mt. The wiki says that libqt3-mt is Breezy's equivalent, but how do I get Opera to install properly?
[07:05] <DavidLeeRoth> http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/08/27/1928243&tid=184&tid=173&tid=143&tid=1 (Linux Laptop)
[07:05] <GrannyTux> what up with ubuntu forum it down as well
[07:05] <Orborde> transgress_: The breakdown happened something like a year ago, I think; they're been on this ever since.
[07:05] <eyequeue> GrannyTux:  ntenence
[07:05] <eyequeue> GrannyTux:  maint
[07:05] <GrannyTux> thx
[07:05] <Crys_Win> Why is it that every time windows says more efficient it means I have to upgrade my system to run it?
[07:05] <transgress_> Orborde: i think you've been reading future news again.
[07:05] <Orborde> transgress_: I may have misread.
[07:06] <drogoh> Slashdot is evil. :(
[07:06] <thoreauputic> Crys_Win: you have to look at it from their viewpoint ;)
[07:06] <crimsun> adjacent: formal training or not, adding more infrastructure to the mess is NOT the way to proceed.
[07:06] <Orborde> transgress_: But I thought they'd been working on reorganizing for about a year; it just became public now.
[07:07] <Crys_Win> thoreauputic: This is gonna be good.
[07:07] <transgress_> eh doesn't matter.  i don't think i'll be using any of the 8 versions of vista
[07:07] <nAmSbReH`> what is the best version for wine in ubuntu
[07:07] <transgress_> the one in apt probably nAmSbReH`
[07:07] <bob2> nAmSbReH`: depends what you're doing
[07:07] <Orborde> transgress_: 'On Aug. 27, 2004, Microsoft said it would ship Longhorn in the second half of 2006 -- at least a year late -- and that Mr. Gates's WinFS advance wouldn't be part of the system. The day before in Microsoft's auditorium, Mr. Allchin had announced to hundreds of Windows engineers that they would "reset" Longhorn using a clean base of code that had been developed for a version of Windows on corporate server computers.'
[07:07] <nAmSbReH`> i wanna play warcraft?
[07:07] <tritium> only you can answer that, nAmSbReH`
[07:08] <wbeck85> I would say, Cedega?
[07:08] <bob2> nAmSbReH`: which version of warcraft?
[07:08] <transgress_> nAmSbReH`: which warcraft?
[07:08] <eyequeue> lol
[07:08] <nAmSbReH`> 1.18
[07:08] <wbeck85> :)
[07:08] <transgress_> nAmSbReH`: no... like world of warcraft or wc3, wc2, etc?
[07:08] <nalioth> microsoft talk in #ubuntu-offtopic please. plenty of room there
[07:08] <nAmSbReH`> frozen throne....
[07:09] <transgress_> nAmSbReH`: that can run in wine... but you gotta remove the video files... google wine linux warcraft 3
[07:09] <Orborde> nAmSbReH`: That's Warcraft III
[07:09] <Crys_Win> I think that MS periodically makes windows "more efficient" so that I will have to buy a new computer. Then, maybe I'll need a new os, so right back to windows.
[07:09] <nAmSbReH`> yup
[07:09] <xuniluser> does ubuntu  support serial devices like mouse?
[07:09] <transgress_> but for best playability you will want cedega nAmSbReH`
[07:10] <bob2> xuniluser: sure
[07:10] <nAmSbReH`> where can i get cedega?
[07:10] <Crys_Win> nalioth: Sorry. I'll knock it off.
[07:10] <signbarn> yeah i bought cedega -- definitely worth it.
[07:10] <WebLOCH> Does anyone know of a decent linux version of the MacOS bar ?
[07:10] <bob2> nAmSbReH`: you can buy it on www.transgaming.com
[07:10] <Crys_Win> I can't buy software. Between upgrading my computer, and college I can't afford it.
[07:10] <transgress_> nAmSbReH`: emphasis on buy
[07:11] <nalioth> WebLOCH: try superkaramba, gdesklets or adesklets
[07:11] <xuniluser> bob2: one of my colleagues cant use his serial mouse(COM1), and also she can't change the resolution of her screen, (stuck up with 640x480)
[07:11] <transgress_> Crys_Win: which is where linux comes in for the win
[07:11] <WebLOCH> ty nalioth
[07:11] <signbarn> $5 bucks/month (min 3 months), so $15 at the least
[07:11] <transgress_> xuniluser: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:11] <bob2> xuniluser: you need to manually configure X to use a serial mouse
[07:12] <bob2> xuniluser: the other issue is unrelated; http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:12] <transgress_> xuniluser: is this a very old computer?
[07:12] <xuniluser> transgress_: thanks...
[07:12] <Crys_Win> transgress Yeah, until you get to running games and then you have to pay again.
[07:12] <nAmSbReH`> im from the phil and i don't have a credit card are there any options where i can get it for free?
[07:12] <kevogod> When I try to install Opera 8.5 shared on Breezy, I receive a dependency error telling me that I need libqt3c102-mt. The wiki says that libqt3-mt is Breezy's equivalent, but how do I get Opera to install properly?
[07:12] <bob2> nAmSbReH`: no
[07:12] <transgress_> Crys_Win: you don't have to.  you can keep using cedega and not pay the subscription
[07:12] <xuniluser> transgress_ not so old, (Pentium 3)
[07:12] <bob2> kevogod: get the static version
[07:12] <transgress_> Crys_Win: the subscription just allows you to get updates to it.
[07:12] <DavidLeeRoth> most mobo's have the usb right next to nic
[07:12] <WebLOCH> what is cedega, i hear a lot about it in here
[07:13] <GrannyTux> anybody ever tey ubuntu on a p2 300mhz
[07:13] <Crys_Win> transgress_ Yes, but then it goes out of date.
[07:13] <DavidLeeRoth> why do the cases i am looking at dont
[07:13] <tritium> nAmSbReH`, don't ask about getting software that costs $ for free!
[07:13] <nAmSbReH`> hehehehehe.....
[07:13] <bob2> WebLOCH: www.transgaming.com
[07:13] <thoreauputic> GrannyTux: pentium 200mmx, 64MB RAM
[07:13] <bob2> transgress_: are you joking?
[07:13] <transgress_> Crys_Win: but it doesn't matter if the games you are wanting to play work.  it only matters when trying to play the newest games added
[07:13] <signbarn> WebLOCH: cedega is transgaming's version of wine aimed at gaming -- am i correct?
[07:13] <kevogod> What you do is, go to Wal-Mart or some other evil corporation and then get a bag. Fill the bag with a bunch of goodies. Then run.
[07:13] <transgress_> bob2: i swear it did it.
[07:13] <drogoh> Cedega == WineX == Wine friendly DirectX
[07:14] <GrannyTux> what window manger did you use
[07:14] <thoreauputic> GrannyTux: but it runs fluxbox, not GNOME
[07:14] <Crys_Win> thoreauputic: What are you running on there?
[07:14] <drogoh> Erm.
[07:14] <nalioth> kevogod: not appropriate
[07:14] <transgress_> bob2: it'll run... but it keeps trying to install another kernel with i upgrade
[07:14] <drogoh> Reverse the words on the last one.
[07:14] <eyequeue> kevogod:  during a hurricane?
[07:14] <transgress_> *when i upgrade
[07:14] <thoreauputic> Crys_Win: Hoary, server install lus fluxbox etc
[07:14] <bob2> transgress_: get the static tarball version
[07:14] <thoreauputic> *plus
[07:14] <Crys_Win> thoreauputic: Look anything like damnsmalllinux?
[07:14] <wbeck85> nAmSbReH: http://www.transgaming.com/sources.php
[07:15] <signbarn> right, i ran WoW fine on cedega -- better than on Windows even (with the -opengl option)
[07:15] <transgress_> bob2: yeah i suppose.  it's a nice browser... especially w/o adds... but i think i'll stick with ff... thanks for the suggestion though.
[07:15] <GrannyTux> anything i should look out for what about xfce
[07:15] <thoreauputic> Crys_Win: much better, really
[07:15] <Crys_Win> thoreauputic: Better than dsl?
[07:15] <thoreauputic> Crys_Win: more flexiblity with packages etc
[07:15] <Crys_Win> That's it. I'm installing fluxbox tommorrow.
[07:16] <Crys_Win> Oh, and I can't get my ubuntu installed boot loader to run windows.
[07:16] <WebLOCH> nalioth, gdesklets appears to be sensors and similar useless functions, cant find a launch bar
[07:16] <nalioth> WebLOCH: among those things i mentioned, you will find what you seek
[07:16] <Myrtti> /me likes gdesklets
[07:16] <adjacent> im having a hard time googling this since firefox is out... can i tell apt to opverwrite the conflicting files in firefox, with those in mozilla-firefox dummy package?
[07:17] <bob2> adjacent: what are you doing?
[07:17] <WebLOCH> nalioth, cheers ill keep lookin
[07:17] <nAmSbReH`> do linspire have cedega in them?
[07:17] <adjacent> all backports are out of my sources, just main and universe/multiverse
[07:17] <Crys_Win> WebLOCH: Is a gnome panel with transparency and several launchers not good enough?
[07:17] <transgress_> i must say... i like windows idea of just removing the menu bar.
[07:17] <bob2> adjacent: what are you doing?
[07:17] <Hendric> how can i restrict other users from removing panels on my GNOME menus... can i restrict it to root only? (removing)
[07:17] <adjacent> bob2: trying to fix firefox since i think a backport ate it
[07:17] <nalioth> adjacent: stop using backports
[07:17] <bob2> nAmSbReH`: not in their free version
[07:17] <bob2> adjacent: that's not really answering my question
[07:17] <signbarn> mAmSbReH`: i heard they were teaming up, but i think it's a preview of cedega -- after which you'd need to subscribe for updates still.
[07:17] <transgress_> Hendric: give them a separate account
[07:17] <adjacent> nalioth: a bit late, but they are out
[07:18] <Crys_Win> transgress_ What menu bar?
[07:18] <WebLOCH> Crys_Win, mine doesnt appear to be transparent I assume i need composition manager for that ?
[07:18] <bob2> adjacent: are you upgrading to breezy? getting hoary-security updates?
[07:18] <signbarn> ah, i am corrected :-)
[07:18] <nalioth> adjacent: remove your firefox with --purge
[07:18] <transgress_> Crys_Win: the ones on all windows... the file, help, etc...
[07:18] <adjacent> bob2: i am running apt-get upgrade
[07:18] <Hendric> transgress: it has a separate account..but they keep on removing their panels.. i want to restrict it...
[07:18] <adjacent> nalioth: will purge remove profiles?
[07:18] <bob2> adjacent: just paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood then
[07:18] <bob2> adjacent: no
[07:18] <transgress_> Hendric: restrict their panels?  why?
[07:18] <Crys_Win> WebLOCH: You can make it transparent. click the properties.
[07:18] <nAmSbReH`> i have an installer it just arrived yesterday..... can i use the linspire cedega on ubunut... is it the same?
[07:19] <adjacent> bob2: why do i need to paste them? its just main, multiverse, universe
[07:19] <adjacent> and security of course
[07:19] <bob2> adjacent: because you failed to answer my question
[07:19] <Hendric> so dat they won't be able to remove menus by accidentally rightclicking and removing the panels
[07:19] <Hendric> i'm using ubuntu on my net cafe thats why
[07:19] <transgress_> Hendric: ah i see... but no i don't really know of a way to do that.  1 button mouse maybe?
[07:19] <WebLOCH> Crys_Win, I guess you are right, still  not very  appealing to the eye
[07:20] <nAmSbReH`> i have an installer of linspire it just arrived yesterday..... can i use the linspire cedega on ubunut... is it the same?
[07:20] <bob2> nAmSbReH`: please don't repeat
[07:20] <cafuego_> Hendric: pam_mkhomedir with sane defaults in /etc/skel perhaps; just trash the homedir when a user logs out.
[07:20] <Crys_Win> Okay. Just thought that might help in the mean time. I have seen a real nice one. I don't know where the person found it. good luck.
[07:20] <nAmSbReH`> can i use it?
[07:21] <cafuego_> nAmSbReH`: Have you tried yet and gotten stuck?
[07:21] <Hendric> cafuego: would you rephrase i can't get it
[07:21] <nAmSbReH`> what do u mean?
[07:21] <adjacent> bob2: its all up there if you scroll. ill repaste if youd like thogh
[07:21] <smott> hm. my laptop gets really hot when running xscreensaver (just blank screen)
[07:22] <cafuego_> Hendric: Just assume users will break stuff. Create default menu prefs and copy those prefs to /etc/skel. Then set up pam_mkhomedir, so that a new home directory is created (with defaults from /etc/skel) whenever a user logs in. When the suer logs out, delete their homedir.
[07:22] <bob2> adjacent: there's no menion of he nick "adjacent" in #flood in the past day
[07:23] <nalioth> smott: instead of "blank screen" use the power settings to depower the panel
[07:23] <adjacent> bob2: there is probably no mention of adjacent in #flood ever
[07:23] <adjacent> bob2: but thanks anyway
[07:23] <transgress_> ha
[07:23] <transgress_> bob2: are you confused?  i am
[07:23] <bob2> adjacent: anyway, nalioth's answer may or may not be dangerous, depending on what you're trying to do
[07:24] <Crys_Win> Okay, I'm out.
[07:24] <Crys_Win> I'll see you all later.
[07:24] <transgress_> 15% battery life here.  i'm about to be out lol
[07:24] <bob2> that was why I was trying to find out what exactly you were doing
[07:24] <adjacent> bob2: just what i said.... restore firefox to a working state after an upgrade from backports
[07:25] <bob2> adjacent: dude
[07:25] <adjacent> i was about to purge it... should i not?
[07:25] <bob2> 15:18:09           bob2 | adjacent: are you upgrading to breezy? getting hoary-security updates?
[07:25] <cafuego_> Hendric: This will take some research and worm tos et up, but will save time once it's done.
[07:25] <adjacent> im running hoary.
[07:25] <cafuego_> s/worm/work/
[07:26] <transgress_> k time for me to go take this inside to plug in.  might be back in a bit.
[07:26] <transgress_> gonna go sit in the hottub
[07:26] <smott> nalioth: oh. that'll work too i guess
[07:27] <xuniluser> I have an EPSON lx 300 printer and i'm having a hard time downloading driver... help!
[07:27] <cosz> hello all
[07:28] <delltony> question i have an external harddrive (maxtor onetouch II ) on order i'm curious if it would work with ubuntu and if so how would one mount the drive? do i simply plug it in and type pmount or whatever? is there a wiki on this or a howto on the forums if so i can't seem to find it
[07:28] <coz> Hello again
[07:29] <crimsun> delltony: is it a USB HD?
[07:29] <nalioth> delltony: my firewire external mounts by itself
[07:29] <coz> I need a few suggestions about breezy if anyone can help!
[07:29] <nalioth> coz: ask, dont insinuate
[07:29] <delltony> yeah its a usb 2.0 drive
[07:29] <coz> I have been trying to get dvd to play and can't do it
[07:29] <crimsun> then it'll mount by itself, and an icon will appear on your desktop, when you plug it in
[07:29] <pitti> delltony: just plugging it in should be enough; it's mounted automatically
[07:30] <delltony> aww sweet
[07:30] <phizz-> has anyone gotten a netgear wg111v2 usb adapter working under linux?
[07:30] <delltony> thats good to know can't wait till i get it a 300 gig drive to put all my programs and whatever on it
[07:30] <coz> can anyone help with getting DVD's to play in breezy?
[07:30] <delltony> one thing i really wish i could figure out and id be a 100 percent linux fan
[07:30] <nalioth> delltony: you'll soon be wishing for a .5TB drive.. .. .. ..
[07:31] <delltony> why is it my system ALWAYS borks when it comes upgrade time
[07:31] <delltony> nalioth, your right :)
[07:31] <nalioth> delltony: b/c you dont wait for breezy final to update?
[07:31] <delltony> i like to stay current with the ubuntu builds but here is my problem. i set the thing up like i want with tweaks and so on get it looking all nice then i do a dist-upgrade and its by by linux :(
[07:32] <delltony> well actually in this case your right but in the last case no
[07:32] <WebLOCH> hmm found quite a nice one
[07:32] <delltony> when i went from warty to hoary i waited till the finaly release
[07:32] <delltony> final even
[07:32] <WebLOCH> probably wise dell500
[07:32] <WebLOCH> delltony,
[07:33] <delltony> well thats how i did it but it did not upgrade i got no x server and whatever
[07:33] <transgress_> woo got a strong enough signal to talk inside now
[07:33] <coz> Let me try agin. Can anyone help in getting DVD's to play in Breezy?
[07:33] <transgress_> still time for the hottub though.
[07:33] <delltony> no really complaining just curious to why i can never upgrade :(
[07:33] <delltony> cause its like i have to reinstall linux every 6 months
[07:33] <thoreauputic> coz: you need to be far more specific about your problem
[07:34] <nalioth> delltony: waiting until the next version finals is a good thing
[07:34] <coz> I insert a dvd, Totem grabs it first and I get this error; "dvdnav_get_next_block" error
[07:34] <delltony> i can't wait till the one that is going to give vista a run for its money started witha  d
[07:34] <cmatheson> hey is it lawful to ask about breezy in here? is x broken right now?
[07:34] <delltony> i seen it in the newsletter
[07:34] <coz> With vlc it just sits there and won't open the dvd
[07:34] <tritium> good night
[07:35] <delltony> i would honestly love to see windows beat into the ground :) but anyway
[07:35] <axl> Goodmorning!
[07:35] <delltony> i converted 3 guys at work to linux thanks to ubuntu's help :) add that to your success stories
[07:35] <nalioth> windows talk in #ubuntu-offtopic, please (fire extinguishers available)
[07:36] <delltony> my boss and two other guys that work for us always come to me with computer problems constantly cause they go to websites and get all kinda hooked dlls and so forth and so on
[07:37] <delltony> well they look at me and go why does your computer never have problems :)
[07:37] <bob2> Seveas: I'd be really really careful banning entire ISPs
[07:38] <delltony> i go well try ubuntu and see how you like it with a kde desktop if you are stuck on the windows look and they loved it i went from problems every day to havent' heard for them in 4 months
[07:38] <kemik> delltony:  maybe they've not managed to boot their computers ;)
[07:39] <delltony> haha good one
[07:39] <[LethAL] > lol
[07:39] <[LethAL] > Goob job though if they have
[07:39] <delltony> i know one thing i love it always thought linux was something id always dream of cause i tried it long long time ago
[07:40] <linlin> How can I restrict what host names connect to my ssh server
[07:40] <zarkoth> hey there
[07:40] <coz> The exact phrasing of the error is;; Error invoking "dvdnav_get_next_block"  Error reading NAV packet
[07:40] <zarkoth> Real quick....KDE or Gnome?
[07:40] <wbeck85> gnome
[07:41] <delltony> i use KDE but i'm strange
[07:41] <[LethAL] > Gnome
[07:41] <zarkoth> lol
[07:41] <zarkoth> and how mahy of you have tried KDE ;)
[07:41] <zarkoth> lol
[07:41] <zarkoth> many**
[07:41] <bob2> questions like that are kinda silly
[07:41] <[LethAL] > I have
[07:41] <kevogod> GNOME
[07:41] <Amaranth> zarkoth: Worst. Question. Ever.
[07:41] <bob2> try them both and see which YOU like
[07:41] <zarkoth> is it?
[07:41] <bob2> no one else can guess what you'd prefer
[07:41] <[LethAL] > !start a desktop environment war
[07:41] <ubotu> Not a clue, [LethAL] 
[07:41] <delltony> try fluxbox i like it too
[07:41] <[LethAL] > :/
[07:41] <zarkoth> I know, I'm asking them what they prefer, bob2, I think we discussed this....
[07:41] <[LethAL] > Ah well
[07:41] <coz> I have been trying for four days to get DVD's to play in Breezy. help would be great
[07:41] <kevogod> KDE has its advantages. GNOME has more advantages.
[07:42] <Amaranth> ahem
[07:42] <[LethAL] > LOL
[07:42] <desplesda> hi everyone, i just tried to upgrade my breezy installation, and i appear to have lost dpkg in the process
[07:42] <desplesda> what can i do? :P
[07:42] <kevogod> There, solid hard facts to ponder.
[07:42] <thoreauputic> linlin:  /etc/hosts.allow  , /etc/hosts.deny , plus  iptables or firestarter
[07:42] <Amaranth> next person to say KDE is better than GNOME or GNOME is better than KDE gets a stern talking to
[07:42] <bob2> coz: you followed the instructions on the wiki?
[07:42] <julien> back
[07:42] <coz> yes!!!
[07:42] <bob2> desplesda: it is very very hard to get dpkg removed
[07:42] <julien> i made a mistake with mkdir command and now all my file fom hda3 (fat32) is gone !!! :(
[07:42] <[LethAL] > Amaranth... what about "Xfce pwns all"? ;-)
[07:42] <thoreauputic> Amaranth: fluxbox is better than xfce :P
[07:42] <coz> Novice here so go easy on directions
[07:43] <desplesda> bob2:  yes, i know, but i just ran an update and it failed
[07:43] <bob2> desplesda: apt actually makes you type out "Yes, I know I'm about to break my system." or so
[07:43] <delltony> well i like gnome till they made the menu thing hard as crap to edit (hoary) i ended up having to write a gtk application to change menus by making .desktop files and i got tired of it so thats why i switched
[07:43] <bob2> desplesda: so paste the error to #flood
[07:43] <julien> is there a unerase command in linux ?
[07:43] <bob2> julien: no
[07:43] <kevogod> dell500, Um, ever heard of Smeg?
[07:43] <julien> all gone for ever ??
[07:43] <kevogod> err I mean delltony
[07:43] <nalioth> julien: there is not
[07:43] <julien> nothing to do ?
[07:43] <delltony> kevogod, no can't say that i have
[07:43] <Amaranth> !smeg
[07:43] <ubotu> from memory, smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[07:44] <bob2> julien: more or less
[07:44] <delltony> aww cool
[07:44] <kevogod> delltony: It is a menu editor that is included by default with Breezy and installable on Hoary.
[07:44] <thoreauputic> Amaranth: advertising is off-topic *grin*
[07:44] <bob2> desplesda: uh
[07:44] <julien> oh my goood !!!
[07:44] <desplesda> bob2:  yeah
[07:44] <bob2> desplesda: apt doesn't remove dpkg without making you beg
[07:44] <DavidLeeRoth> thanks you guys for helping me with my mobo situation
[07:44] <bob2> desplesda: you said yes to it?
[07:44] <DavidLeeRoth> i appreciate it
[07:44] <desplesda> no, all i did was my usual update via update-notifier
[07:44] <WebLOCH> theemes
[07:44] <WebLOCH> anbd icons
[07:45] <adjacent> just posted to #flood, someone mind looking at this error?
[07:45] <Amaranth> desplesda: you have to type a full english sentance at least once
[07:45] <WebLOCH> and pretty
[07:45] <DavidLeeRoth> i now can build an expensive pc for 800
[07:45] <WebLOCH> I love you ubuntu
[07:45] <bob2> adjacent: that command isn't going to do anything useful
[07:45] <Amaranth> desplesda: Something like "Yes, I know what I'm doing"
[07:45] <delltony> cool well i might have to switch back to gnome then one quick question if i want to do that whats the easy way to do it? i installed from the kubuntu cd
[07:45] <DavidLeeRoth> im the happiest dude alieve
[07:45] <kevogod> An expensive PC is not relative.
[07:45] <bob2> adjacent: paste the output of "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[07:45] <coz> OK! let me put it another way. I use XP Pro, Mac OSx, BeOs, and now Ubuntu Breezy. I love BeOs but the only hoding me back from switching to Ubuntu is the DVD p;ayback issue
[07:45] <delltony> my guess would be install an application that has gnome depends
[07:45] <chris86wm> hey guys
[07:45] <Amaranth> delltony: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[07:45] <bigfoot1> guys, give me opinion. Should I try to use Powerpoint 2003 in an unknown language, or should I download/use English version of a free powerpoint alternative?
[07:45] <delltony> aww ok
[07:45] <delltony> thanks
[07:45] <desplesda> bob2:  so, basically, the system is quite thoroughly broken
[07:45] <nalioth> delltony: choose at the login screen (see sessions)
[07:45] <linlin> thoreauputic if i add a host to that, will it automatically block all other hosts?
[07:45] <linlin> opps
[07:45] <Amaranth> delltony: then sudo aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop if you want to get rid of it completely
[07:45] <bigfoot1> what's the best free alternative to powerpoint?
[07:45] <bob2> desplesda: I'd be really really really really surprised if apt removed dpkg
[07:45] <kevogod> bigfoot1, Impress
[07:46] <Amaranth> bigfoot1: OpenOffice.org Impress
[07:46] <bob2> desplesda: "grep dpkg /var/log/dpkg.log"
[07:46] <bigfoot1> kevogod, is impress about as good as powerpoint 2003?
[07:46] <coz> So what do I have to do to get these DVD's to Play in Breezy?
[07:46] <kevogod> bigfoot1, Yes.
[07:46] <bob2> adjacent: sudo dpkg --purge --force-depends firefox firefox-gnome-support; sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox mozilla-firefox-gnome-support
[07:46] <bigfoot1> kevogod, thanks. i'll get it right now. bye for now.
[07:46] <thoreauputic> linlin: well, the info is in the man pages - basically host.allow allows the hosts you specify and none other
[07:46] <chris86wm> does anyone know how to reinstall the alsa-modules?
[07:46] <delltony> well there are some kde apps that  i like like kb3 but i always did like gnome but i switched for the fact as i stated before. i will try it again :) thanks for the tip
[07:47] <Amaranth> desplesda: You typed in that sentence?
[07:47] <linlin> ok
[07:47] <bob2> chris86wm: how did they et removed?
[07:47] <linlin> can i use wildcards in that file?
[07:47] <adjacent> bob2: so... just what i was doing, but through dpkg instead of apt?
[07:47] <DavidLeeRoth> nalioth, i fixed my problem
[07:47] <desplesda> Amaranth:  no, i never did anything but an upgrade via update-notifier
[07:47] <Amaranth> desplesda: When dpkg brings that up you should NEVER do it because you NEVER know what you are doing.
[07:47] <chris86wm> i did it, im stupid i know
[07:47] <WebLOCH> chris86wm, yeah after some problems of my own I have a vague idea
[07:47] <bob2> adjacent: ok...
[07:47] <bigfoot1> should i download the stable version of openoffice.org, or the beta version?
[07:47] <thoreauputic> linlin: hosts.deny is checked, and normally you want it to deny everything
[07:47] <bob2> chris86wm: how did you delete them?
[07:47] <coz> I love XP Pro!
[07:47] <Amaranth> desplesda: This is true for basically everyone except the authors of dpkg and apt. ;)
[07:47] <desplesda> Amaranth:  i was never shown anything, this never even took place on the command line
[07:47] <Amaranth> desplesda: then dpkg can't be removed
[07:47] <delltony> oh one thing someone here might know is there something special that has to be done to get a p2k phone to mount? i know i can use moto4lin but is there not a shell command to mount the phone as a directory?
[07:48] <chris86wm> i removed them thinking that i could easily reinstall. i did this because my sound just stopped working
[07:48] <coz> I also love Spumoni
[07:48] <desplesda> i think that the dpkg package is still there, but the binary is missing
[07:48] <bob2> chris86wm: where "removed" them = random use of rm -r?
[07:48] <bob2> desplesda: do you have dpkg-deb?
[07:48] <xuniluser> where can i find the driver of epson lx300?
[07:48] <nalioth> DavidLeeRoth: great to hear
[07:48] <bob2> xuniluser: ubuntu doesn't include one?
[07:49] <chris86wm> bob2:went to synaptic, right clicked, marked for removal
[07:49] <bigfoot1> do you guys think it's better for me to download/use the beta version of openoffice.org, or should i stick with the stable version?
[07:49] <delltony> anyone else getting this error on upgrading
[07:49] <desplesda> bob2:  it appears not
[07:49] <delltony> Errors were encountered while processing:
[07:49] <delltony>  /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.08_all.deb
[07:49] <bob2> chris86wm: what package are you talking about?
[07:49] <bob2> delltony: /topic
[07:50] <pirre> delltony: there must be some other error as well
[07:50] <bob2> delltony: ar? tar?
[07:50] <nalioth> delltony: it's a common bug
[07:50] <WiFiTux> anyone has in idea on how to install a theme for firefox?
[07:50] <delltony> let me look at the topic sorry abut that
[07:50] <dducko> Im trying to play a dvd in totme.. plays fine.. cept it sorta hicups everyonce in a while.
[07:50] <chris86wm> bob2: alsa-modules-2.6.10-5-386
[07:50] <B_166-ER-X> lemme guesse, breezy dont have French language support ?
[07:50] <nalioth> B_166-ER-X: yes it will
[07:51] <B_166-ER-X> but not ..now
[07:52] <B_166-ER-X> i'm installing breezy and i get all those error related to LANG = "fr_CA.UTF-8"
[07:52] <coz> Any luck in playing DVD's in Ubuntu Breezy?
[07:52] <bob2> coz: works fine for me
[07:52] <Sonny_Wertzik> Are there any RSS readers that scroll in the notification bar, and when they go by you can click them and it opens your browser?
[07:52] <coz> can't get it to work
[07:52] <bob2> coz: I don't see where you explained your exact issue, tho
[07:53] <DavidLeeRoth> how is hoary pronounced? Ive embarrased myself pronouncing it wrong lol
[07:53] <coz> OK I put a DVD in the DVD player
[07:53] <WebLOCH> nalioth, other than gDesklets and aDesklets what did you mention ?
[07:53] <bigfoot1> is there any good reason to wait for the official release of breezy (and not get the version currently out now)?
[07:53] <coz> First Totem opens up and give the error, error accessing "dvdnav_get_next_block" error reading NAV packet
[07:53] <[LethAL] > bigfoot1, only if you're new or using machines for production
[07:54] <bob2> bigfoot1: if you can't deal with things being broken, don't use it yet
[07:54] <coz> vlc does nothing but sit there
[07:54] <chris86wm> may have to reinstall ubuntu :(
[07:54] <bob2> coz: don't use totem then
[07:54] <Sonny_Wertzik> bigfoot1, someone told me to wait until OCT 11
[07:54] <bob2> chris86wm: no, don't be silly
[07:54] <nalioth> WebLOCH: superkaramba
[07:54] <coz> have tried otrher apps as well
[07:54] <nalioth> y'all be good
[07:54] <coz> same problem
[07:54] <WebLOCH> ty
[07:54] <[LethAL] > Sonny_Wertzik, 13, not 11 ;)
[07:54] <bigfoot1> are you guys saying then that the official version will have everything fixed?
[07:54] <bob2> coz: mplayer doesn't work?
[07:54] <bob2> bigfoot1: no
[07:54] <coz> I have reinstalled breezy five times already even low formatting disk each time
[07:54] <bob2> chris86wm: that package isn't actually in ubuntu
[07:54] <coz> Still NO dvd playback
[07:54] <Knelix> Q: I've been trying to insatll this driver: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-7676.html but the installer keeps telling me it can't find (g)cc, though it seems it is installed. How do I let it know where it is?
[07:54] <bob2> coz: er, reinstalling in the hope of fixing this is silly
[07:54] <Sonny_Wertzik> ya the 13 hehe
[07:54] <bob2> and pointless
[07:55] <chris86wm> why cant i grab it in synaptic?
[07:55] <bigfoot1> bob2, i don't see the difference then between waiting for official version and using the one out now.
[07:55] <bob2> chris86wm: because it's not in ubuntu
[07:55] <coz> I know
[07:55] <bob2> bigfoot1: ok then
[07:55] <chris86wm> lol
[07:55] <coz> I have even changed drives hoping it was just a conflick with the hardware
[07:55] <bob2> coz: mplayer didn't work?
[07:55] <chris86wm> can i get it from ne where?
[07:55] <coz> conflict
[07:55] <bigfoot1> bob2, but if you think i should know something that i don't, tell me.
[07:55] <bob2> chris86wm: it's not actually useful
[07:55] <coz> mplayer didn't work!
[07:56] <bob2> chris86wm: the ubuntu kernel includes alsa modules already
[07:56] <chris86wm> bob2: dont need it for sound?
[07:56] <bob2> coz: "didn't work" is not a useful description of the error mplayer gave you
[07:56] <delltony> coz, how about xine for dvd playback?
[07:56] <bob2> chris86wm: the ubuntu kernel includes sound drivers already
[07:56] <coz> It gave no error it just didn't do anything
[07:56] <coz> the only app the gave an error was totem
[07:56] <bob2> coz: that sounds a lot more like you not running it correctly
[07:56] <Jedrick> whats the difference between  ubuntu and kubuntu
[07:56] <coz> Right!?!
[07:56] <bob2> coz: what command line did you give to mplayer?
[07:57] <bob2> Jedrick: one uses KDE, one uses GNOME
[07:57] <coz> Noveice here, I didn't
[07:57] <bob2> bigfoot1: presumably more bugs will be fixed by then
[07:57] <chris86wm> bob2: well since thats not a major problem how bout this.....sound was working for a month then stopped today when i ran 3 updates then restarted
[07:57] <Sonny_Wertzik> Are there any RSS readers that scroll in the notification bar, and when they go by you can click them and it opens your browser?
[07:57] <signbarn> hey i just noticed slashdot links to a review of breezy :-) sorry if that's old news
[07:57] <bob2> coz: then don't say things like "mplayer didn't work", when in realiy you didn't try it
[07:57] <bob2> coz: ok
[07:57] <bob2> chris86wm: ok
[07:57] <Jedrick> bob2: whats the best thing to use GNOME or KDE?
[07:57] <bob2> chris86wm: go look at what you updated
[07:57] <coz> I really don't need to bne corrected in proper sintax I just need a solution
[07:57] <bob2> Jedrick: whatever you prefer
[07:58] <HrdwrBoB> I use totem mostly
[07:58] <HrdwrBoB> mplayer sometimes
[07:58] <chris86wm> bob2: u can do that?
[07:58] <Jedrick> bob2: what you using then?
[07:58] <bob2> coz: then instead of saying "mplayer didn't work!", tell us what you tried
[07:58] <bob2> Jedrick: gnome
[07:58] <chris86wm> i like gnome over kde
[07:58] <bob2> chris86wm: /var/log/dpkg.log
[07:58] <lorenzod> Jedrick, you're not really limited. Since they're all in the same repos, you can have both.
[07:58] <coz> I installed all the apps , one by one, to see if they would open up the dvd
[07:58] <delltony> i have always like xine or kaffiene for my dvd playback but everyone has their own taste
[07:58] <nightcrawler> how do you make gnome your main thing, i installed kubuntu, and i wanna make gnome my default
[07:58] <coz> of course none did
[07:58] <coz> not even vlc which I would prefer over the others
[07:59] <bob2> coz: so, stop whinging
[07:59] <bob2> coz: and install mplayer
[07:59] <MadpilotPPC> is there no way to move tabs in XChat around, or specify order somehow?
[07:59] <bob2> coz: then come back
[07:59] <coz> whinging?????
[07:59] <bob2> omg lolz!11
[07:59] <delltony> bob looks like its gonna be a long night :)
[07:59] <Sonny_Wertzik> heh im watching a movie on xine right now
[07:59] <WebLOCH> MadpilotPPC, yeah just open them in a specific order haha
[07:59] <coz> print is defininately NOT the best way to get a message across
[07:59] <bob2> coz: pkill esd ; mplayer -vo xv -ao oss dvd://1
[08:00] <nightcrawler> how do you make gnome the default?
[08:00] <Knelix> Q: I've been trying to insatll this driver: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-7676.html but the installer keeps telling me it can't find (g)cc, though it seems it is installed. How do I let it know where it is? Anyone?
[08:00] <delltony> Sonny_Wertzik, did you enable dma its off by default
[08:00] <randy> hi 2 all
[08:00] <bob2> coz: run that, then if it doesn't work, put the error on pastebin.ca
[08:00] <chris86wm> bob2: doesnt seem to be in /var/log/
[08:00] <MadpilotPPC> WebLOCH, heh. No, right now they're all alphabetical by channel name, which isn't that useful
[08:00] <Sonny_Wertzik> delltony, was that u that helped me?...ya i got it to work
[08:00] <B_166-ER-X> ok, i have a serious problem here please ;  i would have lots to paste but i'm in the middle of a breezy update, and cannot open firefox  ; basically, theres a small bug at the end of my install that just...stopped it
[08:00] <nightcrawler> can someone help me?
[08:01] <delltony> Sonny_Wertzik, yeah it was glad to have helped
[08:01] <randy> anybody know how use ymesseger with voice
[08:01] <bob2> chris86wm: what does "dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n1" print out?
[08:01] <randy> in ubuntu
[08:01] <delltony> my way of giving back to all the help this community has given me
[08:01] <bob2> B_166-ER-X: no one can possibly help you without seeing the error
[08:01] <coz> command not found
[08:01] <randy> pls I need help
[08:01] <delltony> folks like bob2 man i couldn't live with linux with folks like him
[08:01] <bob2> coz: so, you don't have mplayer installed at all
[08:01] <delltony> without even
[08:01] <bob2> coz: go install it and come back
[08:01] <coz> not now
[08:02] <Sonny_Wertzik> delltony, thanx man i never woulda figured that 1 out on my own
[08:02] <coz> and I found it difficult to find the darn thing when I did install it
[08:02] <bob2> hah
[08:02] <chris86wm> bob2: dpkg: unknown option -1
[08:02] <delltony> Sonny_Wertzik, yeah you would have
[08:02] <delltony> just would have taken time
[08:02] <nightcrawler> i dont know how to make gnome default or take off kubuntu
[08:02] <bob2> chris86wm: l, not one
[08:02] <nightcrawler> how do i uninstall kubuntu
[08:02] <Sonny_Wertzik> heh maybe but i couldnt find much info on it other than what i was already doing
[08:02] <chris86wm> bob2: huh lol
[08:02] <CaiN_SA> lol bob2
[08:03] <randy> Ubuntu Rocks
[08:03] <CaiN_SA> chris86wm, small case L
[08:03] <delltony> Sonny_Wertzik, well the thing is if you have a problem and you try to fix it yourself you end up learning a lot even if it doesn't fix it
[08:03] <delltony> then when you come to a help forum you can tell them exactly what you have tried and they will respect you for giving it a shot
[08:03] <bob2> yes
[08:04] <Sonny_Wertzik> delltony, ya thats true..sometime it take a few days tho hehehehe
[08:04] <chris86wm> ah
[08:04] <delltony> man you should have seen my trying to install gentoo haha
[08:04] <B_166-ER-X> my install of breezy stopped (i dont think it was finish...but unsure)  because of a bug (i had forgot to remove the Cd rom of hoary from the list of sources) i removed it in the sources, not apt-get update works well, but i dont know how to 'restart the install'
[08:04] <delltony> few days blah more like 2 weeks
[08:05] <delltony> then when i install hoary hahah my monitor looked like a xmas tree
[08:05] <B_166-ER-X> please..
[08:05] <delltony> my xorg file was borked and the monitor would go bright then dark bright then dark haha
[08:05] <B_166-ER-X> do i jsut redo apt-dist upgrade ?
[08:06] <bob2> B_166-ER-X: your question is confusing
[08:06] <Sonny_Wertzik> delltony, i tried it.....it woulda taken me 2 months for gentoo
[08:06] <bob2> B_166-ER-X: where you upgrading hoary or actually installing breezy?
[08:06] <chris86wm> bob2: ii libc6 2.3.4.ds1-20ub GNU C Library: Shared Libraries and Timezone
[08:06] <B_166-ER-X> upgrading
[08:06] <B_166-ER-X> to breezy
[08:06] <lasse> lasse
[08:06] <bob2> B_166-ER-X: right
[08:06] <bob2> B_166-ER-X: rerun dist-upgrade, yes
[08:06] <delltony> Sonny_Wertzik, you ever played with usb over ip?
[08:06] <Sonny_Wertzik> delltony, i like ubuntu alot...i wount be going back 2 windows as a main OS
[08:07] <Sonny_Wertzik> delltony, nope
[08:07] <WebLOCH> Anyone else her have any idea about mac style dock bars for linux?
[08:07] <delltony> yeah i ditched windows when warty came out
[08:07] <B_166-ER-X> damn took like 2 hours,  ..nyway
[08:07] <B_166-ER-X> thx
[08:07] <delltony> and now breezy and all the hotplugs and all oh my god i'm in love
[08:08] <Sonny_Wertzik> delltony, heh i havent tried linux in a while but im pretty much blow away
[08:08] <Jedrick> ey i juz finish downloading the iso, how to check if its not corrupt
[08:08] <Sonny_Wertzik> blown away hehe
[08:08] <delltony> only thing Breezy is lackin for me to to be totally in love is a set of boobs :)
[08:08] <bimberi> B_166-ER-X: it shouldn't restart any downloads, just restart where it left off
[08:08] <chrisa86wm> is breezy stable yet?
[08:08] <bob2> Jedrick: md5sum foo.iso
[08:08] <bob2> chris86wm: no
[08:09] <bob2> chris86wm: no release of ubuntu has that version of libc6
[08:09] <aftertaf> delltony> i'm sure you can get a pair of usb ones and make your life complete... ;)
[08:09] <ce_maniezzzz> leh kenal ga ?
[08:09] <chrisa86wm> bob2: what does that mean?
[08:09] <delltony> haha
[08:09] <bigfoot1> i just got oo.o impress. are there some templates for those who want to do a "show and tell" on their photo album?
[08:09] <Unition> hola
[08:09] <bob2> chrisa86wm: I don't know
[08:09] <Sonny_Wertzik> delltony, i tried the live disk but it doesnt reallly do much for me on CD...i need to install it
[08:10] <bob2> chrisa86wm: I'd guess you were trackign breezy but stopped upgrading a while a go
[08:10] <chrisa86wm> let me paste it
[08:10] <bob2> chrisa86wm: or tried to switch back to hoary at some point
[08:10] <chrisa86wm> bob2: ii  libc6          2.3.2.ds1-20ub GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone
[08:10] <delltony> yeah the live cd i only use it for rescue
[08:10] <chrisa86wm> i havent touched breezy, unless it was in an autoupdate
[08:10] <delltony> lets me get a shell and then i can fix my install most of the time
[08:10] <Sonny_Wertzik> the new boot screen is purdy tho
[08:10] <bob2> chrisa86wm: that's different to what you showed me before
[08:10] <Unition> is ubuntu any good ?
[08:10] <chrisa86wm> i typed that one manually, sry
[08:10] <bob2> Unition: try it and see
[08:11] <bob2> chrisa86wm: ah
[08:11] <chrisa86wm> sry about hat
[08:11] <chrisa86wm> *that
[08:11] <Sonny_Wertzik> Unition, ya its good
[08:11] <Unition> im usually on dialup and im grabbing the live while im on highspeed
[08:11] <delltony> yeah one thing about the boot screen though is this if it runs into a a lag time on setting up the network the boot splash goes away
[08:11] <bob2> Unition: note that you cannot install from the livecd
[08:11] <Sonny_Wertzik> wierd
[08:11] <Unition> going to play with it at home.. does ubuntu include lots of goody's like wine and k3b or whatever that burn program is
[08:12] <Sonny_Wertzik> maybe thats one of those quirks that need to be fixed by oct. 13
[08:12] <xuniluser> Unition: you need to apt-get that from the internet
[08:12] <Jedrick> bob2: do i have to download the md5sum foo.iso?
[08:13] <zarkoth> does anyone else's speakers make a very quiet humming noise any time they move their mouse?
[08:13] <Unition> ubuntu has good support for hardware ?
[08:13] <Unition> including video ?
[08:13] <delltony> someone told me there is a hotplug for wifi now and i read up on it and for the life of me couldn't figure it out so is ndiswrapper still needed in breezy or not? cause its the only way i could get my wifi to work
[08:13] <Sonny_Wertzik> Unition, what do u have?
[08:13] <Unition> windows xp
[08:13] <bob2> Jedrick: that's a command to run
[08:13] <chrisa86wm> better hardware support than windows in most situations
[08:13] <bob2> Unition: yes
[08:13] <Jedrick> where?
[08:13] <Unition> oh I have an ati video card
[08:13] <bob2> delltony: hotplug is orthogonal to ndiswrapper
[08:14] <bob2> delltony: tho it could be possibly to make cards requiring ndiswrapper work automatically
[08:14] <Sonny_Wertzik> delltony, man that wifi stuff is beyond me ive never had it
[08:14] <chrisa86wm> hmmm
[08:14] <delltony> so pardon my ignorance but your saying just continue to use ndiswrapper bob?
[08:14] <Sonny_Wertzik> ya i think ati makes vid drivers
[08:14] <zarkoth> I tried to get my wireless card to work with Ubuntu once....
[08:15] <bob2> delltony: unless a new driver for your card has appeared, yeah
[08:15] <zarkoth> turns out I had exactly the wrong card for it
[08:15] <MachineScrew> hey can any one tell me how to get w32codecs libdvdcss2
[08:15] <delltony> ok thanks
[08:15] <delltony> Sonny_Wertzik, i can't live without wifi
[08:15] <zarkoth> *ponders as he looks at the ethernet cord running up the wall*
[08:15] <chrisa86wm> http://ubuntuguide.org/
[08:15] <delltony> here in the states you can go to mcdonalds and use the net for free
[08:15] <Sonny_Wertzik> MachineScrew, are you trying to use them for xine
[08:15] <MachineScrew> yes
[08:16] <Jedrick> bob2: where will i run the md5sum foo.iso?
[08:16] <MachineScrew> totem-xine
[08:16] <bigfoot1> what's the chatroom adress for openoffice.org?
[08:16] <bob2> Jedrick: in the terminal
[08:16] <Sonny_Wertzik> MachineScrew, ya i just went through this
[08:16] <MachineScrew> ok
[08:16] <delltony> sudo apt-get install w32codecs should do the trick for you
[08:16] <chrisa86wm> bob2: any ideas?
[08:16] <Sonny_Wertzik> MachineScrew, you need to get...one sec im looking at the stuff i d/l ed
[08:16] <bob2> chrisa86wm: no
[08:17] <chrisa86wm> lol
[08:17] <romeo> hi
[08:17] <bob2> I guess you havent' done the usual debugging stuff, and I don't have time to walk you through it, sorry
[08:17] <romeo> i need fe
[08:17] <chrisa86wm> its alright
[08:17] <romeo> need f texmate
[08:17] <chrisa86wm> sucks that the forums are down, i would check there
[08:17] <MachineScrew> have you guys actualy tried to get this stuff
[08:17] <romeo> od
[08:18] <MachineScrew> they aren't in the backports
[08:18] <zarkoth> it does suck...I posted a question a lil bit ago....
[08:18] <delltony> what w32codecs?
[08:18] <romeo> hi machine
[08:18] <MachineScrew> ya
[08:18] <zarkoth> got it all worked out, i hope no one took time to answer it, lol
[08:18] <delltony> i'm using it right now
[08:18] <MachineScrew> hey
[08:18] <Sonny_Wertzik> MachineScrew, you need to compile this file get it on the xine site ... xine-lib-1.1.0.tar.gz
[08:18] <romeo> asl
[08:18] <romeo> machine
[08:18] <MachineScrew> wtf
[08:18] <romeo> wat
[08:18] <romeo> dat
[08:18] <doonz> Hey guys has anyone had issues upgrading to firefox 1.07?
[08:18] <Knelix> Has anyone an idea of how to tell an installer where the (g)cc libraries/app are?
[08:19] <Kimahri> doonz: it's in the topic
[08:19] <linner|AWAY> !seen nalioth
[08:19] <ubotu> nalioth <n=Apple@pdpc/supporter/bronze/nalioth> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 24m 50s ago, saying: 'y'all be good'.
[08:19] <MachineScrew> why don't I just get the rpms and do alien on them
[08:19] <romeo> hello
[08:19] <doonz> there it is
[08:19] <Knelix> romeo: Hello. :-)
[08:19] <romeo> hi
[08:20] <romeo> asl
[08:20] <Jedrick> bob2: man i really dont have any idea bout the md5sum foo.iso, can you help me out
[08:20] <delltony> MachineScrew, if you do get the tar ball and do the .configure and make do a checkinstall instead of a make install that way it will make a deb and put it in synaptic for you :)
[08:20] <linner> hi romeo and Knelix
[08:20] <romeo> HI
[08:20] <romeo> ASL
[08:20] <romeo> PLS
[08:20] <delltony> 26/yep love it/ wherever she takes me
[08:20] <Sonny_Wertzik> MachineScrew, its not just llibdvdcss ...you need a ton of files that are in that pack..libdvdcss alone isnt enough
[08:20] <Knelix> romeo: This is a Linux chat room.
[08:20] <MachineScrew> if I do alien -d libdvdcss
[08:20] <Knelix> romeo: If you want a general topic chat you should go elsewhere.
[08:21] <MachineScrew> i should have those
[08:21] <MachineScrew> i have xine libs installed
[08:21] <Sonny_Wertzik> not enough of them
[08:21] <Sonny_Wertzik> its really easy
[08:21] <concept10> whooooosh .... just installed breezy colony 4 and everything just works (tm) even processor scaling!
[08:21] <MachineScrew> ok
[08:22] <Sonny_Wertzik> you can try what delltony just said but it didnt work that way for me
[08:22] <mae> concept10, glad to hear :)
[08:22] <Sonny_Wertzik> MachineScrew,  are you using xine 99.4?
[08:22] <delltony> libdvdread3 - Simple foundation for reading DVDs
[08:22] <delltony> type sudo apt-get install libdvdread3
[08:23] <concept10> They should make some visual changes to the theme to let everyone know you have a 'fresh' update
[08:23] <bigfoot1> using impress, is there a quick way to get a picture to fit on the screen at the best maximum size?
[08:23] <joe_> hi
[08:23] <Jedrick> ey i juz finish downloading the iso, how to check if its not corrupt?
[08:23] <concept10> I wish I could import all of my settings from my old home folder
[08:23] <joe_> can someone help a newb?
[08:24] <linner> what is a recommended package for listening to podcasts
[08:24] <MachineScrew> I use totem-xine
[08:24] <ubuntuking> hello all
[08:24] <joe_> hi
[08:24] <Knelix> It bugs me that I can't even install a lousy NVIDA driver... <sigh>
[08:24] <Knelix> *NVIDIA
[08:24] <Jedrick> anyone?
[08:24] <MachineScrew> it uses 1.0.1 of the libs
[08:24] <joe_> can you all read me?
[08:24] <Sonny_Wertzik> oh...i thought you were using xine...not totem
[08:24] <chrisa86wm> when breezy comes out, can  i update to it or will i have to reinstall everything?
[08:24] <MachineScrew> well totem-xine
[08:24] <linner> joe_: yes
[08:24] <joe_> thank god
[08:24] <MachineScrew> I don't like gstreamer
[08:25] <joe_> i havea quick question
[08:25] <MachineScrew> pain in the but
[08:25] <romeo> HI
[08:25] <delltony> ever used ogle?
[08:25] <MachineScrew> souldn't be installed
[08:25] <ubuntuking> yeah
[08:25] <MachineScrew> don't like ogle
[08:25] <linner> joe_: I'll do my best to help you... I'm very VERY new
[08:25] <ubuntuking> but i like vlc or totem bette
[08:25] <ubuntuking> *better
[08:25] <doonz> uh oh i think something is buggerd now. i tried installing firefox through terminal using the stuff provided by the topic url. Now it say starting firefox then it closes and thats it
[08:25] <MachineScrew> totem works the best
[08:25] <Sonny_Wertzik> MachineScrew, i would say go to xine site and look for totem-xine and find the lib pack that goes with it and install it
[08:25] <joe_> ample"i'm trying to changemy workgroup setting from workgroup to "exp
[08:25] <romeo> WHRE ARE U KNELE
[08:25] <Kimahri> i prefer either GMplayer or Xine
[08:25] <joe_> EXAMPLE
[08:25] <delltony> i hate totem but i guess it hates me too
[08:25] <ubuntuking> have u ever tried vlc
[08:26] <MachineScrew> I have the lib pack
[08:26] <delltony> i use xine,mplayer,vlc,ogle
[08:26] <kataklysm> totem-xine is probably the best thhing to listen to podcast with if you dont like just plain Xine,  but you will want to install the libmad0 library as well
[08:26] <MachineScrew> I need the w32codecs
[08:26] <Sonny_Wertzik> MachineScrew, then you can do your libdvdcss alien
[08:26] <MachineScrew> ok thanks
[08:26] <ubuntuking> machine i was just googling for those
[08:26] <linner> joe_: I'm not an expert on networking... I'll have to let someone else help you.  I'm deeply sorry.
[08:26] <joe_> np thanks
[08:26] <romeo> HI
[08:26] <Sonny_Wertzik> alien rules
[08:26] <linner> joe_: absolutely
[08:26] <delltony> Machine i thought w32codecs was in hoary-backports
[08:26] <MachineScrew> actualy totem-xine is in the repos
[08:26] <MachineScrew> not any more
[08:26] <romeo> AGTAKAYO,
[08:27] <romeo> NATALUSAN
[08:27] <ubuntuking> hoary backports is down
[08:27] <romeo> NANGULA
[08:27] <MachineScrew> no
[08:27] <MachineScrew> it isn't
[08:27] <kataklysm> linner: who needs help with networking?
[08:27] <delltony> well im using breezy so can't voice for hoary
[08:27] <linner> kataklysm: joe_
[08:27] <MachineScrew> I am using them
[08:27] <joe_> me
[08:27] <linner> kataklysm: thank you
[08:27] <Knelix> How can I modify files in Gnome as root?
[08:27] <ubuntuking> i am using breezy too
[08:27] <joe_> kata
[08:27] <kataklysm> joe_: what is going on
[08:27] <ubuntuking> but i have the hoary backports activated
[08:27] <MachineScrew> gksudo
[08:27] <ubuntuking> lately there are not loading
[08:27] <MachineScrew> same here
[08:27] <joe_> i can't seem to figure out how to change the default workgroup
[08:28] <joe_> to a speicified one
[08:28] <Sonny_Wertzik> i gotta go to bed....gnite all ...thx again delltony for the help
[08:28] <kataklysm> in samba?
[08:28] <delltony> wanting to change a workgroup on a file?
[08:28] <linner> joe_: if you type the first few letters of the person's nick followed by a tab... it will complete the nick for you... then that person will be alerted you are trying to talk with them
[08:28] <joe_> ubuntu
[08:28] <MachineScrew> extras don't work
[08:28] <joe_> ic thanks
[08:28] <linner> joe_: absolutely
[08:28] <MachineScrew> no they do
[08:28] <delltony> chown username:group <file> is how i always do it
[08:28] <Knelix> Hmm... Not able to...
[08:28] <MachineScrew> ok never mind
[08:28] <MachineScrew> on sec
[08:28] <doonz> uh oh i think something is buggerd now. i tried installing firefox through terminal using the stuff provided by the topic url. Now it say starting firefox then it closes and thats it
[08:29] <joe_> kataklysm, i'm trying to change my default workgroup to somehting else
[08:29] <kataklysm> joe_: you call it a "workgroup" are you referring to the hostname / domain of your *nix install? or are you speaking of "workgroup" as in filesharing for compatability with windows machines?
[08:29] <linner> aftertaf: hey dude :)
[08:29] <joe_> kataklysm, i believe the second
[08:30] <linner> must have been something I said :)
[08:30] <kataklysm> joe_: have you installed samba and swat?
[08:30] <joe_> kataklysm,  no i have not
[08:30] <azteech> seeing how the formum is still down, does anyone know if disabling ipv6 still causes problems for ubuntu 5.10?
[08:30] <kataklysm> try that joe_
[08:30] <delltony> good night everyone
[08:30] <joe_> i will. thanks
[08:30] <linner> delltony: night
[08:30] <linner> wb aftertaf ::)
[08:31] <ubuntuking> azteech, i don't think so
[08:31] <zealotus> i have a problem with my newly installed ubuntu. my mouse doesnt seem to work while im using ubuntu but if i use windows it works well. my mouse is ps2 by the way
[08:31] <bob2> I wish people didn't lean so hard on the forum
[08:31] <kataklysm> your welcome joe_
[08:31] <benplaut> trying to figure this out for a while... how do i make an image grayscale in gimp?
[08:31] <linner> bob2: why?
[08:31] <linner> bob2: that's what it's there for
[08:32] <azteech> bob2, I use google, quite readily, but, as you may note, googlereply mostly point to theforum
[08:32] <bob2> linner: because the forums people operate independantly of the rest of the ubuntu world
[08:32] <bob2> so you et duplication of work, and rumours turning into fact
[08:32] <benplaut> trigger_ph: i think they auto-form to the size of the font, and amount of text
[08:33] <linner> bob2: understand you're point of view
[08:33] <nickrud> benplaut, right click, image -> mode
[08:33] <trigger_ph> benplaut: so there's no way for me to constrain this?
[08:33] <azteech> besides the forum, what would you recommend we use then (besides google searches)
[08:33] <benplaut> trigger_ph: i dunno...
[08:33] <bob2> azteech: the wiki and the mailing list
[08:33] <benplaut> nickrud: heh... someone in #gimp answered at the same time :P
[08:33] <linner> bob2: when you said the "forum" do you mean the IRC room?
[08:34] <Knelix> I cannot login as root in Gnome...
[08:34] <trigger_ph> benplaut: ok...thanks, i'll read some more..
[08:34] <nickrud> a common action in my work world :)
[08:34] <linner> in case anyone's interested there' s a good Ubuntu group on Yahoo! groups
[08:34] <bob2> linner: no, the web forums
[08:34] <kataklysm> anyone whats this weeks diggnation yet?
[08:35] <linner> bob2: oh that's a different story
[08:35] <bob2> and yahoo groups split the community up even more
[08:35] <linner> kataklysm: I wish I could tell you....
[08:35] <linner> kataklysm: I love them and haven't been able to listen to them since I went *nix
[08:35] <kataklysm> linner: im gonna download it now i guess
[08:35] <linner> kataklysm: how do you listen to them?
[08:35] <kataklysm> linner: they have video now
[08:36] <linner> oh... :(
[08:36] <linner> I want back my podcasts...
[08:36] <B_166-ER-X> what does the breezy upgrade is suposed to do when its finished ?
[08:36] <linner> the only thing i miss from windose
[08:36] <kataklysm> linner: i watch diggnation, twit, thebroken, and systm
[08:36] <linner> kataklysm: TWiT.... I love them
[08:36] <linner> kataklysm: i listen to Leo on KFI every weekend ... cause I'm local
[08:37] <kataklysm> linner: you can watch them on your *nix.. just install xine-ui and download the avi files
[08:37] <linner> kataklysm: so am I correct we cannot listen to podcasts?
[08:37] <bimberi> Knelix: don't do it if you can avoid it, but if you must - System -> Admin -> Login Screen Setup; Security tab
[08:37] <kataklysm> linner: i watch them all the time
[08:37] <nickrud> B_166-ER-X, not much, until you log out and back in. You'll have new versions of your programs after that.
[08:37] <linner> kataklysm: but it's a huge file huh?
[08:37] <kataklysm> listen rather
[08:37] <linner> kataklysm: when did TWiT go avi?
[08:37] <kataklysm> depends on if you want video or audio
[08:37] <linner> kataklysm: audio
[08:37] <mojo> Hi.  is anyone on good with atp/dpkg errors?  I have two problems. One is that I getseveral dpkg "serious warning: file list file for package" blah errors that seems otherwise harmless.
[08:37] <kataklysm> hmm i think it was in august linner
[08:37] <B_166-ER-X> so there is no way to know if its really finish until i reboot and see that it doest boot ? ;P
[08:38] <linner> kataklysm: man... really?  odd... I've only been on this for a month
[08:38] <kataklysm> linner: everything you did in windows you can do on here ;)
[08:38] <linner> kataklysm: so podcasting  can not be heard by itself?
[08:38] <linner> kataklysm: not watch DVD
[08:38] <linner> at least that's what i understand
[08:38] <kataklysm> linner: yea you can
[08:38] <IRCMonkey> hey guys, looking for some help here
[08:39] <kataklysm> linner: xine will playback anything as long as you install the libraries
[08:39] <linner> and i know i can't close my lid of my laptop with out it going into an unrecoverable sleep.... ATI driver prob
[08:39] <nickrud> B_166-ER-X, no, if the upgrade didn't tell you about any errors, then the install went well.
[08:39] <linner> kataklysm: what is xine?
[08:39] <CaiN_SA> xine is a movie / dvd player
[08:39] <kataklysm> Xine is a audio/video player for unix
[08:39] <linner> oh it is????
[08:39] <linner> right on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:39] <linner> I didn't know
[08:39] <kataklysm> *nix rather
[08:39] <mojo> Second is an error processing two pkgs (firefox and gnome support for it) where it is failing to overwrite something in /var/cache/apt/archives/packagename/somethingorother when extracting the debs.
[08:40] <kataklysm> totem will play anything xine will play if you install totem-xine
[08:40] <linner> kataklysm: answer this for me... why the "*" before "nix"
[08:40] <IRCMonkey> i just tried running the 5.04 ubuntu live cd, i recieved an error about my video hardware not being supported (i think) anybody able to help me here?
[08:40] <nickrud> the kernel upgrade, now that I think about it, I don't have any opinion on. I have my own menu.lst.
[08:40] <kataklysm> linner, its just a way of abreviation for different types of unix based systems
[08:40] <linner> oh okay
[08:40] <marc`> whats wrong with the random in Mplayer?
[08:40] <bob2> ubotu: ff fix is sudo dpkg --purge --force-depends firefox firefox-gnome-support ; sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox mozilla-firefox-gnome-support
[08:40] <ubotu> okay, bob2
[08:40] <kataklysm> *nix refers to bsd/linux/solaris/unix etc
[08:40] <linner> IRCMonkey: what kind of card do you have?
[08:40] <bob2> mojo: ^^
[08:41] <IRCMonkey> eVGA 5400 PCI
[08:41] <bob2> mojo: assuming that yu're getting it while updating from hoary-security after having used firefox backports
[08:41] <Knelix> bimberi: Well that did something, but not what I wanted... <sigh>.. thanks, anyway.
[08:41] <linner> IRCMonkey: I caution you I don't have a lot of experience.  But I will do my best to help.
[08:41] <IRCMonkey> thanks, better than nothing
[08:41] <linner> IRCMonkey: Did you check the site for hardware compatibility?
[08:41] <mojo> thanks bob trying that now
[08:41] <bimberi> Knelix: oh, you're welcome (i think) :)
[08:42] <IRCMonkey> yes, it referred me to x.org
[08:42] <linner> IRCMonkey: what did they say?
[08:42] <mojo> bob2: thanks!  that helped.
[08:42] <Knelix> bimberi: Just not my night... I should go to bed, but I'm not tired... trying to fiddle with this system is getting me frustrated tonight...
[08:43] <linner> wb aftertaf
[08:43] <linner> :)
[08:43] <IRCMonkey> linnear, for all i can tell, i have to install something, *.tar files i think...
[08:43] <kataklysm> IRCMonkey: thats weird that it said your card isnt supported, maybe you could get away with using the VESA driver, or SVGA generic
[08:43] <linner> IRCMonkey: ok that is a compressed file
[08:43] <linner> kataklysm: i just had to do that... but i can't remember how to walk him through that... can you help?
[08:43] <IRCMonkey> never heard of .tar, does winrar support it?
[08:43] <kataklysm> IRCMonkey: i'd say its a compressed module
[08:44] <linner> IRCMonkey: winrar is a windows decompresser
[08:44] <ekimus> hi, anyone knows of tools to create compressed fs in other OSs (bsd) the linux binary compatibility won't work because it's a kernel module...
[08:44] <mojo> bob2: I am now upgraded.  Do you know anything about the .list files that dpkg keeps complaining about on every install now?  Things seem to work but the warnings are given as "serious"...
[08:44] <kataklysm> IRCMonkey: winrar does open tar files in windows, but in linux u can use the tar command or use File Roller
[08:45] <IRCMonkey> ok, i dont know much if anything about linux systems though, i was hoping i could bumble by with the gui
[08:45] <bob2> mojo: you'd need to show us the whole error
[08:45] <kataklysm> IRCMonkey,  you wont get the driver installed from the GUI
[08:45] <mojo> okay how about a snip, since it repeats for several packages (no floods, eh? :)
[08:45] <linner> IRCMonkey: you'll have to use terminal to install it
[08:45] <kataklysm> IRCMonkey: you will need to learn the common linux commands anyway, might as well get a good start ;)
[08:46] <mojo> dpkg: serious warning: files list file for package `docbook-dsssl' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed.
[08:46] <mojo> dpkg: serious warning: files list file for package `xaw3dg' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed.
[08:46] <linner> kataklysm: where do you get them?
[08:46] <mojo> and so on
[08:46] <MadpilotPPC> !tell IRCMonkey about cli
[08:46] <IRCMonkey> so, should i try install the drivers from windows and then try to reboot into ubuntu again
[08:46] <nickrud> IRCMonkey, File Roller is also known as Archive Manger, you can find it under Applications->Accessories
[08:46] <bob2> mojo: that means someone poked where they shouldn't, or you have disk corruption
[08:46] <kataklysm> linner: get what?
[08:46] <linner> kataklysm: a guide for basic unix commands
[08:46] <linner> IRCMonkey: NO!
[08:46] <IRCMonkey> ok then
[08:47] <kataklysm> IRCMonkey: you cant install drivers for linux from windows, they are independant of each other
[08:47] <linner> IRCMonkey: you need to install them in the Ubuntu boot
[08:47] <mojo> disk corruption, eh?  can I check the root fs manually or have to boot another root?
[08:47] <IRCMonkey> could you refer me to a guide of common linux commands
[08:47] <MadpilotPPC> !tell linner about cli
[08:47] <MadpilotPPC> IRCMonkey, see the msg ubotu just sent you
[08:47] <jack> i can't  upgrade mozilla-firefox
[08:47] <linner> MadpilotPPC: you rock... thank you :)
[08:47] <anna_> can someone tell me why my usb flash drive is not appearing it the "computeR" window? it's light is on
[08:47] <ubuntuking> ger breezy clo 5
[08:47] <mojo> bob2: if i fix disk corruption (assuming i have it), will it be better or do I have to replacesome files
[08:47] <ekimus> mojo: root filesystem checking is best to do offline (with a live cd) in case you have to correct serious errors (man fsck is your friend here)
[08:47] <bob2> mojo: you can run debsums to see what the damag is like
[08:48] <IRCMonkey> pilot, ok, what am i lookng for?
[08:48] <kataklysm> IRCMonkey: most likely you will need to install the linux-headers for the kernel, download build-essential  then you will probably have to just compile the driver, and modprobe it into the kernel.. its really not hard to do at all
[08:48] <ekimus> mojo: but it can be done online
[08:48] <MadpilotPPC> linner, np
[08:48] <lasindi[lappy] > Hi all, I just installed Ubuntu on my laptop and I have to say, I'm very impressed. One thing I'm wondering about is that Emacs appears too large. Is there a way to shrink it down?
[08:48] <mojo> so like sudo fsck / will work?
[08:48] <bob2> no
[08:48] <ekimus> lasindi[lappy] : what did you install to get emacs?
[08:49] <MadpilotPPC> IRCMonkey, I had ubotu send you a message a few minutes ago. it's got two good Linux command line intro URLs in it...
[08:49] <bob2> you want to run debsums, not fsck
[08:49] <IRCMonkey> im probably gonna have to try this tomarrow, sounds like i need to get some bacground info before another attempt, thanks for your help though
[08:49] <mojo> debsums...
[08:49] <bob2> lasindi[lappy] : the fonts? the window size?
[08:49] <IRCMonkey> thanks pilot
[08:49] <ekimus> bob2: what's debsums? he was talking about fs corruption?
[08:49] <lasindi[lappy] > ekimus, I used Synaptic
[08:49] <mojo> command not found, find won't find it...  no debsums
[08:49] <lasindi[lappy] > bob2, both
[08:49] <kataklysm> IRCMonkey just come back when you need more help :D
[08:49] <aftertaf> hi linner :) wb yourself ;)
[08:50] <IRCMonkey> that wont be too far into the future kata
[08:50] <ekimus> lasindi[lappy] : i meant what was the package name? (btw. have you used linux before just to make out the level of experience)
[08:50] <IRCMonkey> thanks again guys
[08:50] <mojo> ekimus: the dpkg error could be from disk corruption
[08:50] <kataklysm> IRCMonkey there is nothing wrong with that
[08:50] <bob2> lasindi[lappy] : with X resources, or shift-left-click on the main portion of the window
[08:50] <kataklysm> no prob IRCMonkey
[08:50] <joerg> has anyone got experiences with skype on ubuntu? mine is extremely slow.
[08:50] <bob2> lasindi[lappy] : for thwe window, metacity should remember the size for you
[08:50] <lasindi[lappy] > ekimus, I'm new to Ubuntu, but I've been using Slackware for a while now.
[08:50] <mojo> apt-getting debsums...
[08:51] <Mr-Falkor> I cant install the nvidia drivers,.. I`ve tryed the nvidia-glx package, and the official drivers(yes I have the kernel source/headers),.. but then I got this error: Unable to load module nvidia.ko !
[08:51] <linner> kataklysm: i had to step away ... is IRCMonkey ok with his drivers now?
[08:51] <bob2> Mr-Falkor: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:52] <lasindi[lappy] > ekimus, the package is emacs21.
[08:52] <kataklysm> linner, he said he was going to wait until tomorrow
[08:52] <Mr-Falkor> bob2, thank you, but one problem -- cant find the  linux-restricted-modules for my kernel
[08:52] <jack> i can't  upgrade mozilla-firefox! and now i can't use the firefox!
[08:52] <linner> kataklysm: i hope he isn't too scared away
[08:52] <kataklysm> linner, he was going to read up on the commands
[08:52] <linner> kataklysm: i think that's excellent... something i'm going to do too
[08:53] <bob2> Mr-Falkor: please don't tell me you're using 2.6.11
[08:53] <lasindi[lappy] > bob2, how do I use metacity to fix the size?
[08:53] <Mr-Falkor> bob2, im using 2.6.12-9-386
[08:53] <kataklysm> linner, play around with the commands just dont try nothing that will mess things up heh
[08:53] <bob2> jack: .msg ubuntuking ff fix
[08:53] <Mr-Falkor> bob2, but I can only find it for 2.6.12-8-386
[08:53] <kataklysm> linner, the only way to learn is to practice what you have read
[08:53] <linner> kataklysm: oh I'm not going to play with them... i'm going to scan over them and then use them when i need something before i come to the chat room
[08:53] <linner> :)
[08:53] <mojo> bob2: debsums is cranking away...  has a few FAILEDs but I guess I'll have to grep it for the pertinent list
[08:53] <ekimus> lasindi[lappy] : ubuntu tries for a lots of packages to include as much as possible to make it convenient for non-linux users. in debian-based distros you can use dpkg -L <name of package> to list the files in there. maybe you should have a into that. there's a good possibility that the maintainers included some convenience features that take up space
[08:53] <bob2> Mr-Falkor: according to packages.ubuntu.com, it exists
[08:54] <bob2> Mr-Falkor: sudo apt-get update, maybe?
[08:54] <Mr-Falkor> humm
[08:54] <bob2> mojo: yup, exactly
[08:54] <Mr-Falkor> *checking*
[08:54] <jack> bob: sorry, what's means?
[08:55] <ekimus> damn are there any project to create faster hard disks? i really get sick that i have to wait for IO to finish...
[08:55] <lasindi[lappy] > ekimus, why would that fix the size of emacs?
[08:55] <lasindi[lappy] > oh wait
[08:55] <bob2> jack: /msg ubuntuking ff fix
[08:55] <bob2> BAH
[08:55] <bob2> ubuntuking: please choose a less annoying nick
[08:55] <bob2> jack: /msg ubotu ff fix
[08:55] <lasindi[lappy] > ekimus, sorry, I meant the size of Emacs in terms of screen real estate.
[08:55] <MadpilotPPC> ekimus, you could cough up for one of those 10,000rpm HDDs...
[08:55] <bob2> jack: the bot will tell you how to fix it
[08:56] <khermans> bob2, you know anything about the resize partition option in the new Breezy install being broken?
[08:56] <lasindi[lappy] > ekimus, not RAM or hard drive space. ;)
[08:56] <linner> MadpilotPPC: what PPC are you using?
[08:56] <ekimus> lasindi[lappy] : oh.....got you wrong on that sorry. dunno i usually use it fullscreen in a term over ssh :)
[08:56] <khermans> seems like it just hangs before it gets to resizing the NTFS
[08:57] <bob2> khermans: no
[08:57] <bob2> khermans: if it's not working for you, please do file a bug
[08:57] <khermans> bob2, i have seen it on two machines now -- but never seen it work so dont know if it is a bug
[08:57] <khermans> it comes up as /part
[08:57] <lasindi[lappy] > ekimus, ok, thanks anyway
[08:57] <bob2> how long did you wait?
[08:58] <khermans> probably at least an hour
[08:58] <MadpilotPPC> linner, a friend's G4 - I'm housesitting for two weeks...
[08:58] <linner> MadpilotPPC: does PPC stand for POWERpc or POCKETpc with *nix
[08:58] <Mr-Falkor> I think it is working now
[08:58] <Mr-Falkor> thank you guys:)
[08:58] <khermans> and the partition was fine, so it didnt start doing anything and fail
[08:58] <MadpilotPPC> linner, Power
[08:58] <linner> MadpilotPPC: oh okay... i think that answer it fo rme
[08:58] <linner> MadpilotPPC: got it
[08:58] <bob2> khermans: sounds like a bug then
[08:58] <khermans> bob2, hrmm guess ill file it
[08:58] <khermans> bob2, have you seen it work?
[08:58] <mojo> linner: u hear about pocket with embedded linux and linuxdevices.com (methinks)
[08:59] <linner> Mojo yes I think so
[08:59] <bob2> khermans: no, but I know it does for other people
[08:59] <bob2> e.g. tritium
[08:59] <khermans> he had NTFS, not FAT ?
[08:59] <linner> mojo i can't remember if HP is coming out with one in 2007?  Have you heard that too?
[08:59] <bob2> yes
[09:00] <mojo> linmaster: not up on it, sry
[09:00] <mojo> ^^^  linner
[09:00] <linmaster> :)
[09:00] <linner> oh okay
[09:00] <mojo> yeah lin-tab, linn-tab :))
[09:00] <linner> mojo you got it
[09:01] <dikadika> hello i will be installing ubuntu soon and was wondering would it be easier to install the version i have 5.04 and upgrade or to download the new version 5.10 ?
[09:01] <vladuz976> how can i uninstall all games and change default applictaion for let's say email?
[09:01] <mojo> bob2: wow debsums takes a miiiiiinute to run, huh.  still cranking..
[09:02] <mojo> bob2: the stdout must be goin to the textfile, cuz i still get these "no md5sums for blah" errors to console.  stderr i suppose
[09:03] <mojo> bob2: woah, dun.  brb after grep
[09:03] <waseem> hey how do i install jgrasp on my computer?
[09:03] <khermans> bob2, seems to be an issue
[09:03] <khermans> bob2, https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16354
[09:04] <carrett> hi. i just used gtkpod to load a bunch of songs onto my ipod. now that i've disconnected (safely), the ipod says that it's full, but that it only has 256 songs (should have 2000+)...any clues as to why?
[09:04] <chx> hi. i have severe problems with skype. I even tried the static linked against qt version. I type skype, press enter and dang nothing happens . there are no 'stuck' skype processes
[09:04] <chx> by 'nothing' i mean it just stands there , does not end , does not run
[09:04] <HrdwrBoB> carrett: could be full of other files
[09:05] <carrett> HrdwrBoB: I converted it to fat32 before transferring songs...so it was wiped clean
[09:05] <mojo> bob2: 29 lines of output from "grep FAILED" of dsout.txt
[09:05] <linner> hey ya'll how do I change the increase in delay for pressing another key on the keyboard
[09:05] <khermans> bob2, the bug says the installer failed on both amd64 and i386 install ISOs for Breezy ... the partitioner was causing the hang -- but I ran into both times on my own laptops.  Neither one worked ... very strange -- wonder if this is a laptop-only issue
[09:05] <jackphil> bob2: sorry, message who? im the guy upgrade firefox
[09:06] <mojo> bob2: ps u r kind, take ur time
[09:08] <onkarshinde> Can I expect Firefox 1.5 beta to be present in Breezy universe?
[09:08] <linner> anyone?
[09:08] <B_166-ER-X> just running under ,y nez upgrqde fro, breewy; guess zhqts the proble,::
[09:08] <linner> onkarshinde: I doubt it.
[09:09] <linner> onkarshinde: I'm looking for it too.
[09:09] <mojo> linner: sry not sure how either.  you said "increase" in delay?  i don't get it anyway, sry
[09:09] <onkarshinde> linner: I hope it makes to universe at the time of breezy final.
[09:09] <B_166-ER-X> help 6
[09:09] <linner> mojo hard to explain let me try though.................... i'm on a laptop and if i don't take my finger off IMMEDIATELY it keeps typing that same character
[09:09] <linner> onkarshinde: i do too
[09:10] <linner> onkarshinde: i'm using it on the windows side and love it
[09:10] <mojo> linner: oh, you mean the key-repeat delay.  that MAY be a bios setting, even.
[09:10] <Digis> is it a bug? in vlc, shortcut keys doesnt work?
[09:10] <linner> YES :)
[09:10] <linner> mojo i don't think so...
[09:10] <linner> Digis: are you speaking to me?
[09:10] <mojo> linner: if my ffox was working just now I could point u to an article that talks about how keys are processed in linux and x
[09:11] <Digis> linner, not with you, with everybody
[09:11] <linner> Digis: ok
[09:11] <Digis> :)
[09:11] <linner> mojo ok.. i'll google it and find out
[09:11] <linner> mojo thought it might be a quick fix
[09:11] <onkarshinde> Do i need to do 'dpkg --reconfigure xorg' after I add an AGP card to my machine? Or can I directly connect the monitor to it and Ubuntu will take care of everything?
[09:12] <mojo> linner: good luck.  I know that there is some confusion cuz the kernel maps keys, then x re-maps them itself
[09:12] <linner> mojo oh?
[09:12] <mojo> linner: but n e way gl
[09:12] <linner> really
[09:12] <linner> mojo huh?
[09:12] <B_166-ER-X> hzo do i chqnge the keyboqrd 666
[09:12] <mojo> linner: kernel makes keycode from raw data stream on kebd input.  x takes keycodes, and makes its own mappings of them.  i didn't read article yet, had it saved.
[09:13] <MadpilotPPC> is it possible to get the extra buttons on Logitech mice working?
[09:13] <mojo> ^^ in my bookmarks
[09:13] <brownie17> can someone tell me how i edit the right click menu with KDE?i want to put a terminal command in it
[09:13] <linner> Mojo ahh ok
[09:13] <poningru> MadpilotPPC: dude if you find out let me know
[09:13] <linner> let me google it
[09:13] <mojo> hmm... maybe i'll bbiaf
[09:13] <B_166-ER-X> hoo can i change ,y .keyboard. ; it.s f__ up
[09:14] <onkarshinde> Do i need to do 'dpkg --reconfigure xorg' after I add an AGP card to my machine? Or can I directly connect the monitor to it and Ubuntu will take care of everything?
[09:14] <mojo> bob2: i will be stepping out, but will return shortly.
[09:14] <MadpilotPPC> poningru, heh. that's not encouraging, but I'll ask google - too bad the Ubuntu forums are down...
[09:15] <poningru> yeah what happend there?
[09:15] <gratarian> Are the ubuntuforums being updated?
[09:15] <MadpilotPPC> poningru, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntellimouseMousemanBackForwardButtons
[09:15] <Seveas> they said maintenance
[09:16] <B_166-ER-X> bob2; please :: hoz can i change my language under breexy   6
[09:16] <deadcat> zd1211 in ubuntu source yet?
[09:16] <Seveas> B_166-ER-X, system -> admin -> language selector
[09:17] <kataklysm> hmm what plays .mov files??   i thought xine or totem-xine did
[09:17] <poningru> maddler: awesome thanks
[09:17] <poningru> err
[09:17] <kataklysm> i downloaded a .mov and it crashes xine and totem both
[09:17] <B_166-ER-X> Seveas; i dont have it ~
[09:17] <poningru> MadpilotPPC: ^^^
[09:18] <kataklysm> is their another library to play .mov files?
[09:18] <MadpilotPPC> poningru, got that... ;) isn't tab-complete fun sometimes?
[09:18] <poningru> MadpilotPPC: hehe :)
[09:18] <deFrysk> B_166-ER-X, did you upgrade fron hoary ?
[09:18] <deFrysk> from*
[09:18] <B_166-ER-X> yes
[09:18] <khermans> kataklysm, vlc is the best media player IMHO
[09:18] <smott> which module do i load for apm?
[09:18] <onkarshinde> kataklysm: .mov means quicktime movie. I never had problem with vlc to play such files.
[09:19] <kataklysm> ok ill try vlc
[09:19] <deFrysk> B_166-ER-X, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and look again
[09:19] <mojo> linner: okay let me see if i can find that 4 u now.. ffox is back up for me...
[09:19] <B_166-ER-X> ' ,egs ; qrr
[09:21] <poningru> transgress: ?
[09:21] <deFrysk> transgress, vls = in breezy
[09:21] <poningru> sure there is
[09:21] <poningru> oh
[09:21] <deFrysk> vlc*
[09:21] <transgress_> needed deps aren't there poningru
[09:23] <mojo> linner: what i found was https://wiki.ubuntu.com//MultimediaKeys but it may not help..  read at "in depth" heading maybe.  but i saw something else too i thought...
[09:23] <mypapit> Seveas, who's that +b?
[09:24] <transgress_> anyone know if an inotify capable kernel will be coming... particularly to breezy?
[09:24] <Seveas> it already has come to breezy a long time ago :)
[09:25] <Seveas> CONFIG_INOTIFY=y
[09:25] <Seveas> CONFIG_DNOTIFY=y
[09:25] <transgress_> Seveas: oh really?  i see.  i thought it wasn't in until kernel .13?
[09:27] <Seveas> apparently it's there already
[09:27] <transgress_> Seveas: neato.  now... i should probably reformat my lappy to ext3 so i can take more advantage of beagle lol
[09:29] <mojo> linner: try the console command kbdrate (man kbdrate)
[09:29] <wijnand> when i login, i always get warnings that some elements of my panel have "quit unexpectedly", with the option to reload them... seeing as these are recurring messages, i was wondering if anyone knows this issue and if there is a way to fix it
[09:29] <mojo> linner: or look into the man pages on xset, as it may be in x
[09:29] <wijnand> (gnome panel, that is ;))
[09:29] <robbkidd> Nyur.
[09:29] <Seveas> wijnand, don't hit the reload button
[09:29] <Seveas> just add them back manually
[09:29] <wijnand> Seveas: ahh nice touch.. thanks
[09:29] <Carpe_Libertatem> Does anyone know if there's a 5.10 version of Ubuntuguide.org available yet?
[09:30] <Seveas> Carpe_Libertatem, ubuntuguide sucks
[09:30] <Seveas> look at the wiki and at doc.ubuntu.com for *good* information
[09:32] <jsgotangco> Seveas, doc.ubuntu.com is very much WIP docs, but since we still don't have help.ubuntu.com it'll do i guess
[09:32] <Kuolio> Seveas: i dont get why you flame so much against ubuntuguide, as it is accurate and has good/quick instructions for various tweaks etc.
[09:32] <jsgotangco> Kuolio, sure, but half of it is crack as well
[09:33] <Kuolio> it doesn't explain so much as wiki does, wich in my book is a good thing ;)
[09:33] <chris__> i have hpb2; apache2; and mysql. how do i setup phpbb2? all i get is a test screen
[09:33] <jsgotangco> Kuolio, the ubuntuguide is actually forked for 5.10
[09:33] <ompaul> !ubuntuguide
[09:33] <ubotu> methinks ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[09:34] <mojo> HOW DO i force ubuntu to check the root for integrity (besides booting 30 times)?
[09:34] <ompaul> mojo, shutdown -F now
[09:34] <wijnand> mojo: fsck?
[09:34] <ompaul> mojo, sudo shutdown -F now
[09:34] <mojo> the -F will force the check?
[09:34] <ompaul> next boot
[09:35] <Mirussa> !faq
[09:35] <ubotu> [faq]  The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/
[09:35] <mojo> okay bbl thanks
[09:36] <obontu> how do i tell ubuntu to turn off my display after 10 mins? (not standby)
[09:36] <ompaul> wow no one wants colony  today - there I am seeding at less than 1k ps
[09:36] <transgress_> okay how about this one i can't seem to fix... i have a laptop... touchpad has a scroll wheel sort of thingy.  but it won't work.  and i can't disable tapping.  it actually looks like it isn't loading as a touchpad but a ps/2 mouse.  any clues?
[09:36] <robbkidd> obontu: Try the Advanced tab in Screensaver config.
[09:37] <obontu> you mean where it says off?
[09:37] <ompaul> ohh dear s/sick/stick
[09:37] <aftertaf> sick of bread? had too much toast ;)
[09:37] <gremid> hi! anyone using an alternative way of managing network profiles (especially wifi profiles) instead of the gnome-system-tools?
[09:37] <obontu> i thought it meant the whole computer
[09:37] <obontu> not just the display
[09:37] <ompaul> oui!
[09:37] <B_166-ER-X> ok;;; noz i have the language selector::: but hoa can i change azerty  to qwerty
[09:37] <aftertaf> hi again [linner] 
[09:37] <[linner] > aftertaf:  I was just msg you :)
[09:37] <robbkidd> obontu: Are you running Breezy?  I'm not sure what the display looks like on the Hog.
[09:37] <Seveas> B_166-ER-X, system -> preferences -> keyboard something
[09:37] <obontu> will it turn it off completely or can i wake it up by pressing a key or moving my mouse?
[09:37] <obontu> no i'm not
[09:38] <obontu> i don't wanna a preview
[09:38] <[linner] > aftertaf:  I've seen you join then leave... join then leave.. what's going on?
[09:38] <Seveas> B_166-ER-X, for a system-wide change: edit xorg.conf
[09:38] <obontu> i'm running hog
[09:38] <ompaul> B_166-ER-X, use * and <> as delimiters not every one is using the same irc client and they all don't behave the same
[09:38] <MachineScrew> ok any one need help
[09:38] <aftertaf> [linner] :  u get my pm?
[09:38] <robbkidd> obontu: Is the setting in a nice box labeled Monitor Power Management?
[09:38] <[linner] > yeah
[09:38] <ompaul> MachineScrew, just answer questions :) don't ask can you help
[09:38] <robbkidd> Display Power Managment, even.
[09:38] <[linner] > i'm msging you now
[09:38] <obontu> yes
[09:38] <MachineScrew> ok
[09:38] <robbkidd> obontu: Then it's just talking about the monitor.
[09:39] <obontu> ah silly me
[09:39] <obontu> thanx
[09:39] <MachineScrew> [linner]  whats up
[09:39] <indypende> Hi all!
[09:39] <MachineScrew> ok
[09:39] <[linner] > Machine)
[09:40] <[linner] > MachineScrew:  hey there
[09:40] <MachineScrew> ya what up
[09:40] <obontu> i tried to compile the new x-chat version, but it said i was missing perl, and i could find that package
[09:40] <B_166-ER-X> Seveas; my xorg:conf is empty is it normal
[09:40] <obontu> what's the name of it?
[09:41] <[linner] > MachineScrew:  you said hey to me earlier so I was saying "hey" back :)
[09:41] <MachineScrew> any one know about the pached orinoco_cs drivers for Breezy
[09:41] <MachineScrew> ok
[09:41] <indypende> why i can't connect to the forum?
[09:41] <Seveas> B_166-ER-X, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:41] <ompaul> obontu, why do you *need* the latest x-chat?
[09:42] <obontu> cuz someone said it fixes some serious bug
[09:42] <obontu> i'm using 2.4.3 as we speak
[09:42] <MachineScrew> xchat-gnome has a nice interface
[09:42] <obontu> and i want 2.4.5
[09:42] <Seveas> which bug?
[09:42] <obontu> i dunno
[09:42] <Seveas> then why fix it/believe it?
[09:42] <obontu> anyhow, nm that
[09:42] <ompaul> obontu, we do mind that
[09:42] <B_166-ER-X> i still dont know what to change in this::
[09:42] <obontu> i'll find out
[09:43] <obontu> how do i use the win32codecs to play wmv and such in linux?
[09:43] <obontu> i tried copying them to the dirs
[09:43] <obontu> but totem won't play wmvs :(
[09:43] <[Wiebel] > breezy slashdotted ;)
[09:43] <Tomcat_> obontu: Install the w32codecs package. :o
[09:43] <MachineScrew> obontu: get totem-xine
[09:43] <kemik> use a real player.. (vlc / mplayer)
[09:43] <transgress_> obontu: sudo aptitude install totem-xine
[09:43] <obontu> thanx
[09:43] <MachineScrew> obontu: first
[09:44] <MachineScrew> obontu: then go here http://cambuca.ldhs.cetuc.puc-rio.br/xine/
[09:44] <A-star> hi everyone
[09:44] <[linner] > A-star:  hello
[09:44] <ompaul> obontu, your missing the point, if there is a bug then the ubuntu version should be fixed, that is how distros stay stable, not by everyone running in a million different directions, and no two people running the same version
[09:44] <MachineScrew> obontu: download w32codec and libdvdcss rpms
[09:44] <obontu> i tried to compile mplayer, wasn't taht succuessful
[09:45] <transgress_> so no one would know why my alps touchpad isn't loading?
[09:45] <Orborde> When on Earth are the forums going to return to life?
[09:45] <MachineScrew> obontu: mplayer sucks leave it alone
[09:45] <obontu> ompaul it's not in ubuntu, it's in xchat
[09:45] <ompaul> obontu, all that compiling is bad for you there is a version of mplayer for Ubuntu
[09:45] <obontu> so they say
[09:45] <obontu> really?
[09:45] <MachineScrew> obontu: ya
[09:45] <[linner] > Orborde:  I use Yahoo! groups (ubuntulinux) for forums
[09:45] <Tomcat_> ompaul: That almost sounded like a Microsoft Marketing message. :P
[09:45] <MachineScrew> obontu: i use totem-xine
[09:46] <MachineScrew> obontu: its easyer to configure
[09:46] <MachineScrew> obontu: and hell looks better
[09:46] <MachineScrew> obontu: compile only if you need to
[09:46] <obontu> thanx
[09:46] <ompaul> Tomcat_, no it if you manage a package then compile away, but randomly compiling packages when you don't have to is a bit too much like a waste of effort
[09:47] <MachineScrew> obontu: now once you get the rpms
[09:47] <CaiN_SA> guys
[09:47] <obontu> shouldi get this one?
[09:47] <CaiN_SA> network-admin <-- with what package does it come ?
[09:47] <obontu> filelibdvdcss-1.2.8-2.network.i386.rpm
[09:47] <MachineScrew> obontu: do sudo alien  -d nameof.rpm
[09:47] <MachineScrew> yes
[09:47] <obontu> thanx
[09:47] <Tomcat_> ompaul: Well, I agree that it's too hard for some people and so they shouldn't do it, but if somebody wants his own version of an application, why not? That's in part what makes Linux beautiful. :>
[09:47] <MachineScrew> obontu: if you want dvd play back
[09:48] <obontu> thanx
[09:48] <ompaul> Tomcat_, you can't run a production environment like that :)
[09:48] <obontu> how do i get rid of my mplayer compo and all that?
[09:48] <FaithX> which is the default manner for firewalling in ubuntu?
[09:48] <MachineScrew> obontu: make shure you did a sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[09:48] <obontu> just delete the dir on my desktop?
[09:48] <obontu> i did
[09:48] <MachineScrew> obontu: ya
[09:48] <obontu> ok thanx
[09:48] <kemik> obontu:  "make deinstall"
[09:48] <vinboy> hi
[09:48] <MachineScrew> obontu: did you install from source ?
[09:49] <kemik> or uninstall or make clean etc
[09:49] <MachineScrew> obontu: ys make deinstall
[09:49] <[linner] > MachineScrew:  so to understand this correctly, to watch movies i have to install something besides mplayer?
[09:49] <vinboy> how do i know wat port a program is listening to?
[09:49] <MachineScrew> obontu: or somthing likr that
[09:49] <robbkidd> FaithX: No firewall, but no services listen on anything other than loopback by default.
[09:49] <kemik> [linner] :  mplayer or vlc are the best players ;)
[09:49] <transgress_> linmaster: i rarely use mplayer
[09:49] <transgress_> err [linner] 
[09:49] <[linner] > kemik:  ok great... thank you :)
[09:49] <[linner] > transgress:  what?
[09:49] <MachineScrew> [linner]  vlc is a good web player
[09:49] <ompaul> Seveas, got a mo?
[09:50] <[linner] > MachineScrew:  better than mplayer?
[09:50] <MachineScrew> [linner]  totem-xine kicks as
[09:50] <MachineScrew> s
[09:50] <kemik> MachineScrew:  vlc is a good anything-player
[09:50] <transgress_> [linner] : yes
[09:50] <MachineScrew> yes
[09:50] <kemik> i personally hate Totem
[09:50] <MachineScrew> smaller and faster
[09:50] <kemik> since it sucks
[09:50] <transgress_> i dig totem since i went to breezy
[09:50] <kemik> maybe it's better in breezy
[09:50] <[linner] > MachineScrew:  ok... understood... I'll go get it now...
[09:50] <transgress_> although the browser plugin usually won't play videos the external will... it'll stop like first frame
[09:50] <[Wiebel] > totem stil has flaws
[09:50] <MachineScrew> totem works only if you have totem-xine
[09:50] <xuniluser> How do i activate and deactivate services (daemons) in  Ubuntu?
[09:51] <MachineScrew> totem-gstreamer sucks moldering assholes
[09:51] <kemik> yeah. totem-xine and it's still bad
[09:51] <[Wiebel] > www.zoomin.tv has movies totem-xine can't handle
[09:51] <[linner] > MachineScrew:  what's the difference between totem, mplayer and vlc
[09:51] <kemik> this is the bash-totem-day
[09:51] <[linner] > kemik:  I've never had any lock with totem.... so there ya' go
[09:51] <[Wiebel] > zoomin uses a playlist with 2 movies
[09:51] <MachineScrew> gnome interface for totem
[09:51] <[Wiebel] > 1st is a commercial
[09:51] <robbkidd> xuniluser: System -> Administration -> Services
[09:51] <[Wiebel] > 2ndt is the actual movie
[09:51] <MachineScrew> never got mplayer to work in any distro
[09:51] <[Wiebel] > but afther playing the commercials totem stops
[09:52] <[Wiebel] > apt-get install mplayerplug-in
[09:52] <MachineScrew> for as long as I heard of it
[09:52] <[Wiebel] > works like a charm
[09:52] <robbkidd> Yuh. What Wiebel said.
[09:52] <[linner] > hmm.. it works fine in Breezy for me... onmy desktop ... haven't tried on the lappy yet
[09:52] <[Wiebel] > after that
[09:52] <transgress_> mplayer worked awesome for me in gentoo... that's about it
[09:52] <[Wiebel] > cd /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins
[09:52] <[Wiebel] > rm libtotem*
[09:52] <MachineScrew> totem-xine plays the new Quicktime 7 file
[09:52] <MachineScrew> s
[09:52] <[linner] > really? and dvds... and streaming audio??????????????
[09:53] <kemik> MachineScrew:  doesnt mplayer play those aswell ?
[09:53] <MachineScrew> ya
[09:53] <kemik> [linner] :  mplayer plays dvds and streaming audio/video aswell
[09:53] <kemik> ;)
[09:53] <xuniluser> robbkid: there's no Services in Administration
[09:53] <[linner] > kemik:  ok.... so I can listen to podcasts by mPlayer oo?
[09:53] <transgress_> i prefer totem-xine to mplayer in ubuntu... never could get mplayer to play dvd's
[09:53] <MachineScrew> but streaming audio I use  Rhythom box
[09:53] <[linner] > ok
[09:53] <[linner] > wow... so much info
[09:53] <obontu> i got this folder on my desktop
[09:54] <MachineScrew> same here
[09:54] <obontu> and i can't get rid of it
[09:54] <obontu> it says i don't have permissions
[09:54] <robbkidd> xuniluser: You're using Hoary Hedgehog or Breezy Badger?
[09:54] <MachineScrew> you have mc
[09:54] <[linner] > well he11 i'll have to see if it will play through mplayer on mine
[09:54] <[linner] > kemik:  something i need to install though right?
[09:54] <[linner] > kemik:  like a plugin?
[09:54] <MachineScrew> right
[09:54] <xuniluser> robbkidd: Hoary
[09:55] <MachineScrew> http://revision3.com/systm
[09:56] <transgress_> mmm systm... good.
[09:56] <transgress_> i downloaded the newest diggnation mp3 earlier... probably gonna listen to it and sleep
[09:56] <robbkidd> robbkidd: Ah. You're stuck with using a command line utility, installing a program called BUM (of which I have no experience) or upgrade to the Breezy pre-release (which I thought was quite fun and am happy with).
[09:56] <[linner] > transgress:  i soooooooooooooooo want my diggnation and TWiT back..............
[09:56] <robbkidd> Jeez. I'm talking to myself.
[09:56] <Orborde> So I mounted a Windows share using mount -t smb, and tried to edit a file with gedit. Gedit went OMFG I R TEH CRASHZ0R. Any ideas?
[09:56] <Orborde> Where can I file a bug report?
[09:57] <MachineScrew> I got them fine with Totem-xine
[09:57] <transgress_> [linner] : telling you... grab totem-xine... it'll run.
[09:57] <[linner] > transgress:  i haven't listened to systn yet
[09:57] <obontu> hmm i ran those alien -d on w32codec and dvdcss
[09:57] <obontu> and that's it?
[09:57] <[linner] > transgress:  ok
[09:57] <transgress_> i just grabbed w32codecs from marillat myself.
[09:57] <[linner] > transgress:  i don't nkow what that is
[09:57] <MachineScrew> no now dpkg -i w32codec and the same for dvdcss
[09:57] <xuniluser> robbkidd: can i install it with Hoary?
[09:57] <transgress_> it's a repo... and that was directed at obontu
[09:58] <[linner] > oh okay
[09:58] <[linner] > how do i get it?
[09:58] <[linner] > adn what does it do?
[09:58] <obontu> what do i do with those deb packages?
[09:58] <transgress_> [linner] : you use it to grab w32codecs... then you disable it... and you google it to get it
[09:58] <MachineScrew> obontu: sudo dpkg -i thename.deb
[09:58] <obontu> thanx
[09:58] <[linner] > transgress:  no no no i mean what do w32codecs do?
[09:59] <transgress_> [linner] : helps programs play things like wmv and xvid
[09:59] <MachineScrew> they alow you to play quick time nonDRMed wmas
[09:59] <[linner] > transgress:  ok... i just want audio... not video so do I need it?
[09:59] <obontu> i get errors with ilbdvdcss :(
[09:59] <MachineScrew> avi's divx
[09:59] <MachineScrew> thinks like that
[10:00] <MachineScrew> what where the errors
[10:00] <obontu> dpkg: error processing libdvdcss_1.2.8-3_i386.deb (--install):
[10:00] <obontu>  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libdvdcss.so.2.0.7', which is also in package libdvdcss2
[10:00] <obontu> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[10:00] <obontu> Errors were encountered while processing:
[10:00] <obontu>  libdvdcss_1.2.8-3_i386.deb
[10:00] <obontu> sorry for spam
[10:00] <transgress_> btw for those interested... diggnation 13 got released today on mp3
[10:00] <robbkidd> xuniluser: Yep. Some instructions are in the topic.
[10:00] <[linner] > transgress:  you're makin' me jealous now
[10:00] <transgress_> [linner] : lots of things will play an mp3... out of the box
[10:01] <MachineScrew> ok dude you have libdvdcss2
[10:01] <MachineScrew> don't wory about it
[10:01] <obontu> ok
[10:01] <obontu> now how do i run that player?
[10:01] <obontu> same as always?
[10:01] <MachineScrew> ya just go to totem
[10:01] <aftertaf> obontu:   dont paste here please ;) youll get shouted at:)
[10:01] <MachineScrew> apps > sound & vid
[10:01] <[linner] > ok
[10:01] <kemik> or even muted
[10:01] <obontu> yes
[10:02] <MachineScrew> he did say sorry
[10:02] <obontu> it works!
[10:02] <obontu> thanx!
[10:02] <MachineScrew> no prob
[10:02] <aftertaf> MachineScrew:  ;) true...
[10:02] <xuniluser> robbkidd: ok...
[10:02] <obontu> but now i have another problem
[10:02] <obontu> i have no audio in the player
[10:02] <MachineScrew> whats that
[10:03] <obontu> but i got audio when i try to play mp3s
[10:03] <transgress_> obontu: what kind of sound card?
[10:03] <MachineScrew> oh hmm
[10:03] <MachineScrew> thats odd
[10:03] <obontu> i think it's just a fucked up movie
[10:03] <obontu> hmm
[10:03] <[linner] > oh ya'll this is terrible
[10:04] <obontu> well, i tried installing wine, but not luck
[10:04] <MachineScrew> go here and download an episode h264 http://revision3.com/systm
[10:04] <[linner] > transgress:  that is just awfully!
[10:04] <MachineScrew> better
[10:04] <MachineScrew> http://revision3.com/systm/podcasting/media
[10:04] <Orborde> I think one of my panel applets crashed. How do I kill/reset it?
[10:04] <FaithX> What do I need to be able to compile X apps on ubuntu?
[10:04] <transgress_> [linner] : what is?
[10:04] <MachineScrew> then chose h264
[10:05] <ompaul> FaithX, which apps?
[10:05] <[linner] > the audio is sooooooooooooooooo garbled
[10:05] <transgress_> [linner] : what player?
[10:05] <[linner] > transgress:  totem
[10:05] <transgress_> [linner] : totem-xine?
[10:05] <kemik> totem ofcourse
[10:05] <kemik> since its crap ;)
[10:05] <MachineScrew> no totem-xine is better he has totem-gstreamer
[10:05] <[linner] > transgress:  yes
[10:05] <MachineScrew> god damn it
[10:06] <[linner] > MachineScrew:  are you talking about me?
[10:06] <transgress_> [linner] : you're sure?  what does dpkg -l | grep totem-gstreamer say?
[10:06] <MachineScrew> yes you have totem
[10:06] <[linner] > hold on a sec let me look
[10:06] <FaithX> ompaul, I want to compile wine
[10:06] <obontu> install h264 the same way i installed w32?
[10:06] <[linner] > MachineScrew:  I'm a she............ :)
[10:06] <MachineScrew> oh sory
[10:06] <transgress_> eww linux chick
[10:06] <obontu> larege or small?
[10:06] <MachineScrew> opps
[10:06] <transgress_> that was a good eww
[10:07] <MachineScrew> well any way it will only show up as totem
[10:07] <kemik> on internet, you can be anything you like
[10:07] <MachineScrew> you need to do sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[10:07] <kemik> im not gonna believe it til i have real-solid proof ;)
[10:07] <MachineScrew> obontu depends
[10:07] <MachineScrew> obontu its a video by the way
[10:07] <obontu> ah
[10:07] <obontu> what is it?
[10:07] <obontu> i got it
[10:08] <[linner] > transgress: rc  totem-gstreamer                       1.2.0-0ubuntu3                       A simple media player for the Gnome desktop
[10:08] <transgress_> they are so drunk in this diggnation
[10:08] <transgress_> [linner] : you don't have totem-xine
[10:08] <transgress_> [linner] : sudo aptitude install totem-xine
[10:08] <obontu> anyhow
[10:08] <obontu> how do i install wine?
[10:08] <[linner] > ok
[10:08] <transgress_> same way you install everything obontu
[10:08] <transgress_> obontu: sudo aptitude install wine
[10:08] <ompaul> FaithX, it is in the universe repositry
[10:08] <MachineScrew> no sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[10:08] <MachineScrew> that would be fine
[10:08] <[linner] > let me go see agin
[10:08] <transgress_> aptitude is better to use than apt-get
[10:08] <[linner] > again
[10:09] <MachineScrew> same thign
[10:09] <obontu> get a debian pack of it ?
[10:09] <MachineScrew> synaptic is better
[10:09] <MachineScrew> lol
[10:09] <transgress_> not really.  aptitude keeps track of shit so you don't have to go and use deborphan
[10:09] <kemik> say what ?
[10:09] <MachineScrew> so dose synaptic
[10:09] <ompaul> FaithX, so you can install it with sudo apt-get install wine
[10:09] <kemik> apt-get and aptitude and synaptic is basically the same
[10:09] <transgress_> MachineScrew: since when?
[10:10] <MachineScrew> it always has for me ?
[10:10] <transgress_> kemik: no they aren't.  aptitude keeps track of what packages get installed when you use it.
[10:10] <transgress_> MachineScrew: it'll remove unneeded deps?
[10:10] <kemik> transgress:  and so do apt-get and synaptic aswell
[10:10] <MachineScrew> but then I don't have boken appd
[10:10] <kemik> transgress:  aptitude/synaptic are just frontends
[10:10] <MachineScrew> i don't uninstall much but ya
[10:10] <MachineScrew> remove completly
[10:11] <MachineScrew> that removes the deps
[10:11] <MachineScrew> ya they are front ends
[10:12] <MachineScrew> totem is just a front end to the xine and gstreamer libs
[10:12] <transgress_> ah i see.
[10:12] <MachineScrew> mplayer is the whole shabang
[10:12] <transgress_> didn't know that remove completely... but i've been told more than once to use aptitude
[10:12] <MachineScrew> ya
[10:12] <bam_> anyone found a cure for the zaurus hdd being mounted like 8x
[10:12] <Tomcat_> ompaul Tomcat_, you can't run a production environment like that :) <--- That's probably a good argument :>
[10:12] <ColonelKernel> mplayer rules.
[10:12] <MachineScrew> well I have been told kde is better than GNOME
[10:13] <Seveas> hehe
[10:13] <weijie90> ya right
[10:13] <transgress_> MachineScrew: but it is.
[10:13] <transgress_> ;)
[10:13] <MachineScrew> I have been told mplayer rules
[10:13] <Seveas> MachineScrew, that's an eternal holy war :)
[10:13] <bam_> i like gnome, whats the advantage of kde?
[10:13] <MachineScrew> wrong on both fronts
[10:13] <transgress_> bam_: it gives you money for crack
[10:13] <kemik> bam_:  stick with what you like
[10:13] <lorenzod> bam_, personal taste.
[10:13] <weijie90> MachineScrew: try both and u will see which one u like
[10:13] <weijie90> the ubuntu forums are down right?
[10:13] <lorenzod> I prefer Gnome, but there are others who like KDE.
[10:13] <MachineScrew> if I want a Fisher Price looking OS i would run WinXP
[10:13] <bam_> gotta wait until breezy has the bugs worked out
[10:14] <B_166-ER-X> i have been able to reconfigure my kb, but at each reboot, i have a message sayin that my $home/.dmrc file have incorrect persomision, that it should be owned by user with permission 644 or something like this
[10:14] <ColonelKernel> Linux p4ht 2.6.14-rc2 #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Sep 23 03:17:41 PDT 2005 i686 GNU/Linux <-- oh yeah, I got it Seveas - even if I cant use LVM or evms anymore ( i dont think I used them anyhow)
[10:14] <lorenzod> Whichever helps you get the job done..
[10:14] <MachineScrew> I did mplayer and KDE
[10:14] <MachineScrew> hated them both
[10:14] <bam_> i would use xfce but no desktop icons, gotta have that area
[10:14] <MachineScrew> though I do like amorok
[10:14] <kemik> MachineScrew:  the gui-mplayer ? or CLI -mplayer?
[10:14] <weijie90> me too
[10:14] <obontu> will there be a way to upgrade instead of re-installing breezy when it's released?
[10:14] <MachineScrew> and k3b
[10:14] <kemik> obontu:  of course
[10:14] <ompaul> Tomcat_, my definition of production is very broad, it is non development
[10:14] <bam_> i just use beep
[10:14] <kemik> obontu:  add breezy and "dist-upgrade"
[10:14] <MachineScrew> the gui mplayer
[10:14] <weijie90> desktop icons are essential.. and a file manager too
[10:14] <Licker> Does anyone got some time to help me in Securing MySQL
[10:15] <obontu> add breezy?
[10:15] <obontu> where?
[10:15] <MachineScrew> mplayer just never works
[10:15] <kemik> obontu:  breezy repositories in sources.list
[10:15] <MachineScrew> for me
[10:15] <bam_> well it has rox for a file mgr
[10:15] <weijie90> will enlightment 17 have desktop icons?
[10:15] <MachineScrew> no
[10:15] <obontu> gotcha
[10:15] <ompaul> obontu,  that was the short version
[10:15] <weijie90> no?
[10:15] <MachineScrew> e17 is a desktop shell
[10:15] <obontu> well we'll see when it's released
[10:15] <bam_> istnt e17 a little heavy on resources?
[10:16] <transgress_> herm... this guy who left his wifi open needs a better router... so as i can get better speed in this hotel room.
[10:16] <MachineScrew> hell no
[10:16] <weijie90> no desktop icons? thats a shame.. so much hype and no desktop icons
[10:16] <MachineScrew> its fast as fuck
[10:16] <benplaut> bam_: quite the opposite
[10:16] <abhayks> bam_ e17 is lighter than KDE
[10:16] <weijie90> brb
[10:16] <bam_> hmmm really
[10:16] <bam_> interesting
[10:16] <shekhar> hello i am having problems instaling acrobat reader
[10:16] <robbkidd> Focking hell.  I've installed libdvdcss2 and totem-xine still is not happy.
[10:16] <bam_> like xfce?
[10:16] <MachineScrew> ya and looks better
[10:16] <ompaul> !tell obontu about upgrade
[10:16] <Licker> how do I setup a Secure MySQL?
[10:16] <benplaut> bam_: e17 is lighter than IceWM
[10:16] <bam_> thats light
[10:16] <MachineScrew> robbkidd
[10:16] <mojo> e17 is enlightenment's latest, right?  (as i come in late)
[10:17] <transgress_> when there is a package for e17 i may try it
[10:17] <MachineScrew> are you using breezy ?
[10:17] <robbkidd> MachineScrew: Yers?
[10:17] <ompaul> obontu, that is how you do it but change warty for hoary and hoary for breezy and it works
[10:17] <benplaut> bam_: oh, and use XFE instead of Rox... it's alot more full-featured
[10:17] <robbkidd> MachineScrew: Yepper.
[10:17] <transgress_> yes i am
[10:17] <Orborde> What is enlightenment?
[10:17] <MachineScrew> ok
[10:17] <ompaul> obontu, but warned it is still development
[10:17] <bam_> oh
[10:17] <obontu> i know
[10:17] <mojo> enlightenment window manager, right?
[10:17] <obontu> i was just checking
[10:17] <bam_> im just playing with xfce right now
[10:17] <benplaut> Orborde: a really cool eye-candy happy lightweight sub-DE
[10:17] <MachineScrew> robbkidd: i am in it to i have installed it and works fine
[10:17] <obontu> i'm waiting for the stable version
[10:17] <bam_> so far gnome is fine
[10:18] <ompaul> Orbman, a bloated window manager with lots of eye candy and a load for your CPU to do
[10:18] <MachineScrew> robbkidd: then again I whent to a site for the rpms and did alien -d on them
[10:18] <transgress_> gnome can help eat up my lappy battery
[10:18] <bam_> except for the mounting my z hdd 8x
[10:18] <abhayks> Orborde its the e17 WM we are taking about
[10:18] <robbkidd> MachineScrew: Oookay. Having snagged the libdvdcss-1.2.8 deb from backports, what else do I do?
[10:18] <Seveas> robbkidd, throw it out :)
[10:18] <benplaut> ompaul: umm... sorry sir, but you're waaaay off
[10:18] <Licker> can anyone tell me how to setup a Secure MySQL?
[10:18] <Seveas> better get libdvdcss2
[10:18] <robbkidd> Did install locations for libdvdcss2 change between hoary and breezy?
[10:18] <MachineScrew> robbkidd: thats odd the still have them there
[10:18] <Licker> on Ubuntu
[10:18] <robbkidd> Curses!
[10:19] <robbkidd> Seveas: Then the conversion of an RPM is the way to do it?
[10:19] <Seveas> Licker, apt-get install mysql-serv, change default password
[10:19] <Seveas> robbkidd, eww no
[10:19] <MachineScrew> robbkidd: I am not shure libdvdcss2 isn't in breezy
[10:19] <Licker> Seveas: I have it installed how do i change the pass?
[10:19] <Seveas> robbkidd, get a .deb from seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:19] <transgress_> MachineScrew: wouldn't be in the normal repos... not free software
[10:19] <MachineScrew> robbkidd: not in the backports
[10:19] <robbkidd> Seveas: Alrightie.
[10:19] <Seveas> transgress_, it is
[10:19] <MachineScrew> i have all the backports
[10:20] <Seveas> and it's even legal
[10:20] <MachineScrew> every thing
[10:20] <transgress_> Seveas: in normal repos?  wow.
[10:20] <Seveas> but people tend to think it's not
[10:20] <Seveas> transgress_, no I mean it is free software :)
[10:20] <ompaul> benplaut, hmm
[10:20] <transgress_> Seveas: it was my understanding it was only legal if you owned a copy of windows
[10:20] <MachineScrew> it should be
[10:20] <Orborde> Crap. I think something desktoppy crashed.
[10:20] <MachineScrew> no it isn't
[10:20] <Orborde> My desktop won't show.
[10:20] <MachineScrew> its free
[10:20] <Seveas> libdvdcss needs no windows bits
[10:20] <Orborde> What do I do?
[10:20] <aftertaf> hehe windows and own in the same sentence ;)
[10:21] <MachineScrew> lol
[10:21] <benplaut> ompaul: wait a sec... are you, by chance, a Openbox or CLI junkie?
[10:21] <shekhar> Seveas, hello, can you help me out with installing adobe acrobat reader?
[10:21] <Seveas> w1nd0wz 0wnz y00 :p
[10:21] <Seveas> shekhar, sure
[10:21] <transgress_> Seveas: you wouldn't know why my touchpad is loading a ps/2 mouse would you?
[10:21] <benplaut> ban Seveas! :P
[10:21] <shekhar> Seveas, i have installed via apt-get but it doesn't launch
[10:21] <Seveas> transgress_, check xorg.conf
[10:21] <mojo> aftertaf: so own should read license?
[10:21] <aftertaf> Seveas:  h4x0r ru13z
[10:21] <Seveas> shekhar, installed from where?
[10:21] <shekhar> Seveas, synaptic
[10:21] <robbkidd> Seveas: Downloaded libdvdcss2_1.2.9-0.yaddayadda from your site.  Installed it.  Totem still doesn't know it's there.
[10:21] <ompaul> benplaut, well when I am not using gnome cli :)
[10:21] <transgress_> Seveas: did.  the touchpad section fails in my log, then it loads as a ps/2 mouse.
[10:22] <benplaut> heh
[10:22] <Seveas> shekhar, i mean: which repository...
[10:22] <ompaul> benplaut, most of the time I use a few terminals and I'm happy
[10:22] <aftertaf> mojo:  no idea.....
[10:22] <mojo> nm
[10:22] <shekhar> Seveas, not sure, i have universe and multiverse in my sources.list... how do i find out? it is version 5 something
[10:22] <mojo> np
[10:22] <aftertaf> everybody can own/pwn windows.....
[10:22] <Seveas> shekhar, ghe, throw it out :)
[10:23] <shekhar> Seveas, what? i removed it and re-installed but it still don't work
[10:23] <Seveas> no, just remove it
[10:23] <xuniluser> Is this correct: mount smb://192.168.0.1/Repository/MP3 /mnt/Repository/ ?
[10:23] <Seveas> acrobat 5 is crappy
[10:23] <Licker> Seveas: whats the command to set a new PW?
[10:24] <Seveas> I'll PM you a repository which has the latest
[10:24] <aftertaf> passwd
[10:25] <Licker> i ment the whole command line for pw change to mysql
[10:26] <weijie90> passwd
[10:26] <Seveas> Licker, mysql -u root
[10:26] <Seveas> and then CHANGE PASSWORD something;
[10:27] <Area_Man> hello
[10:28] <limguohong91> Hi
[10:28] <Licker> so change password *mypass*  ?
[10:28] <Area_Man> need a little help here
[10:28] <Licker> or is there a command that stands for that?
[10:29] <Area_Man> just installed breezy badger and can't seem to get cpan to install anything. keep getting make errors.
[10:29] <Area_Man> even as root
[10:29] <obontu> i installed thundebird with synaptic and it works, but it doesn't have an icon
[10:29] <obontu> why?
[10:30] <rejden> i have some problems contacting info@shipit.ubuntu.com, is the adress correct?
[10:30] <limguohong91> I have a question too? I was trying using Firefox to access my ftp but it don't seem to work. Is there any problem for Ubuntu to access ftp?
[10:30] <Licker> Area_Man: its prob trying to reach for the E: drive or CD-Rom.. mine was doing that
[10:30] <Area_Man> hmm
[10:30] <Licker> i had to change my config.ini file
[10:31] <Area_Man> ok
[10:31] <Area_Man> danke
[10:31] <Dalik> anyone got experience with email servers ?
[10:31] <bob2> rejden: is that what it says on shipit.ubuntu.com?
[10:31] <bob2> Dalik: best to just ask your question
[10:31] <Dalik>  Please be advise that we block remote port 25 (Email), 80
[10:31] <Dalik> (http websites) and 161 (SNMP)
[10:31] <Dalik> You will have to look at using our mail server as a relay for your mail server.
[10:31] <Dalik> ie use ours as the outgoing server.
[10:31] <Licker> Seveas: how do i test to see if the PW was reset in Mysql?
[10:32] <Dalik> I got this from am email and I want to setup my own email server.  I dont need help setting it up but what are my options here?
[10:32] <Licker> hello bob2 im back. :p
[10:32] <bob2> Dalik: that has very little affect on you
[10:32] <Dalik> I am a bit confused but my guess is I wont be able to get email from the internet
[10:32] <Dalik> but I can sent email fine
[10:32] <bob2> Dalik: just configure postfix to use your isp as a relay host
[10:33] <bob2> Dalik: no, their email states the opposite
[10:33] <Licker> Dalik: http://wanderingbarque.com/howtos/mailserver/mailserver.html  <--thats a good good Doc
[10:33] <Dalik> because port 80 is blocked and I had to use ssl to get around it, so I thought I couldnt recieve email directly
[10:33] <Dalik> ok thnx
[10:33] <Licker> bob2:  how do i test to see if the PW was reset in Mysql?
[10:33] <bob2> Licker: try logging in?
[10:34] <Seveas> it's so simple :)
[10:34] <bob2> Dalik: well, they may be blocking port 80 in, but that email does not say that
[10:34] <Seveas> Licker, sorry, got a phonecall :)
[10:34] <Licker> bob2: how? never used a server in Linux. Only in stupid @$$ WIN POS OS!!!  :p  im learning lil by lil
[10:34] <Licker> :/
[10:35] <bob2> Licker: why did you reset it if you're never going to login?
[10:35] <Licker> bob2: neede to change it from default
[10:35] <daejavu> need some help with codecs !!
[10:35] <Licker> needed
[10:35] <Licker> was reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP and it told me to make it secure
[10:36] <daejavu> how can i run ".3gp" files on me system !  they are from my cell phone !
[10:36] <bob2> Licker: you mean you just changed the root password so passers by can't login?
[10:36] <bob2> Licker: right
[10:36] <kemik> daejavu:  mplayer will play them
[10:36] <bob2> daejavu: what does "file blah.3gp" say they are?
[10:36] <Licker> I did..  mysql -u root
[10:36] <Licker> so yes
[10:36] <kemik> bob2:  its a weird cellphone-video format
[10:36] <bob2> ouch
[10:36] <rejden> bob2, i thought so
[10:37] <rejden> bob2, second i check
[10:37] <Dalik> thnx for the help
[10:37] <bob2> Licker: then just login with 'mysql -u root -p localhost'
[10:37] <kemik> .3gp: ISO Media, MPEG v4 system, 3GPP (H.263/AMR)
[10:37] <Cryptid> Please tell me what all files i need for my Gdesklets to work properly without any problem i couldnt get much help from the gdesklets official site please help me
[10:37] <bob2> Cryptid: there's no need to ask your question like that
[10:37] <bob2> and it doesn't really encourage people to try to help
[10:37] <daejavu> bob2, its saying cannot find codec for audio :S
[10:37] <bob2> Cryptid: install gdesklets should be plenty enough to run it
[10:37] <daejavu> kemik,  its saying cannot find codec for audio :S
[10:37] <bob2> daejavu: mplayer does?
[10:37] <rejden> bob2, the webpage has changed
[10:38] <vicecity> hi
[10:38] <rejden> bob2, anyway the mail come back
[10:38] <bob2> rejden: ah
[10:38] <bob2> rejden: with what error?
[10:38] <daejavu> bob2, yup
[10:38] <rejden> bob2, second
[10:39] <kemik> daejavu:  hmm-- donno.. the 3gp file i got is w/o sound
[10:40] <daejavu> kemik, xine plays them ?  i found that a bit better then mplayer ..
[10:41] <Cryptid> bob2, i installed gdesklets and the data files from synaptic and but when i try to apply the stater bar or ne other desklets i only find a black dot on the screen instead of the starter bar i was told that each desklet need diffrent files for it to function properly is it true and i also read on some site that the data file provided in synaptic are out of date and do not function properly
[10:41] <kemik> daejavu:  dont know.. i never use it .. i use vlc/mplayer
[10:41] <rejden> bob2, i somehow deleted it but it was undelivered return to sender (account doesn't exists) as far as i remember
[10:42] <Licker> bob2: it says error 1045: acess denied for user
[10:42] <daejavu> kemik, noprob .. thanks for the help :)
[10:42] <Licker> is there a way to check what the PW is to make sure i changed it?
[10:42] <ompaul> Belutz, were do you get a menu from in enlightenment?
[10:43] <ompaul> Belutz, one with apps?
[10:43] <obontu> i just installed some stuff from synaptic
[10:43] <bob2> Cryptid: dude, english please, that means not using 300 word sentences ;)
[10:43] <obontu> but it won't show my "application" menu why?
[10:43] <bob2> rejden: try again, cutting and pasting fro mthe website
[10:43] <bob2> Licker: no, it's stored hashed
[10:43] <bob2> Cryptid: did you run gdesklets and then add the applets you care about?
[10:44] <Cryptid> bob2, yes
[10:44] <Belutz> ompaul: i don't use enlightenment :)
[10:44] <bob2> Cryptid: and they don't show up?
[10:44] <Licker> bob2: so what do I do? lolz. can i just change it again since im root? if so what was the command?
[10:45] <rejden> bob2, actually the ordering from website now work i was just curious about changing the order directly because we need more cds
[10:45] <bob2> Licker: you can't change it if you don't know the password
[10:45] <bob2> not without breaking into it, anyway
[10:45] <bob2> rejden: cool
[10:45] <Cryptid> bob2, no they sort of show up below the mouse pointer but when i place them on the desktop they disapprear and only a black spot remains on the screen
[10:45] <bob2> Cryptid: is there a bug in the BTS?
[10:46] <Licker> bob2: what is the default pass for a fresh mqsql install?
[10:46] <Cryptid> bob2, i dont know
[10:46] <bob2> Licker: nothing
[10:46] <Licker> o.O
[10:47] <bob2> a blank string
[10:47] <bob2> hitting enter
[10:47] <bob2> etc
[10:47] <Licker> ohh
[10:47] <obontu> i just installed a package
[10:47] <obontu> and it won't appear on my menu
[10:47] <obontu> why?
[10:48] <TTilus> obontu: maybe the package doesn't have menuentry?
[10:48] <obontu> menuentry?
[10:48] <TTilus> obontu: what did you install
[10:48] <bob2> ompaul: only thing in main tend to get added there
[10:48] <bob2> er, obontu
[10:48] <obontu> supertux and avidemux2
[10:49] <TTilus> obontu: menuentry = stuff which, when added, makes thingies appear to menu
[10:49] <mameluke> hi there... i have some problems with the configuration of a dhcpd... somebody has time to give tipps for 5 minutes?
[10:49] <obontu> so where should it be then? :(
[10:49] <Cryptid> bob2, do u use gdesklets ?
[10:49] <TTilus> obontu: dunno
[10:49] <TTilus> obontu: what did you install?
[10:49] <obontu> supertux and avidemux2
[10:49] <TTilus> ah
[10:50] <TTilus> sorry
[10:50] <ompaul> mameluke, why not say what your problems are, we may know the answers, this asking to ask is a tad unproductive
[10:50] <root_> what is the code for updating a dist?
[10:50] <TTilus> obontu: if you can't find 'em try adding entries yourself
[10:50] <mameluke> ompaul, it doesn't works :P
[10:50] <Licker> bob2: after i try to login it just goes to -> whats that mean?
[10:50] <obontu> ok
[10:50] <TTilus> obontu: it's not all that hard
[10:50] <obontu> bbl
[10:51] <bob2> Licker: that you logged in
[10:52] <bob2> Licker: that's the mysql command prompt
[10:52] <Licker> ohhhh
[10:52] <Licker> so that means my pass didnt work if it didnt ask me for a pass?
[10:52] <mameluke> ompaul, dhcp says: dhcpd: No subnet declaration for eth1 (0.0.0.0).
[10:52] <Licker> pass change*
[10:52] <brownie17> the update manager is telling me i need to update my kernel, and it is giving me the new version (hoary -  i386). is it dangerous to update it if i don't know what i am doing? anyone?
[10:53] <aftertaf> brownie17:  normally, no..... what processor do you have?
[10:53] <brownie17> aftertaf, a celeron 2.4ghz
[10:53] <brownie17> aftertaf, why might it sometimes be?
[10:53] <aftertaf> ok.   you can get the linux-686 package then...
[10:54] <brownie17> aftertaf, well just the one from update manager? i won't do it unless it is completely mandatory if i have to do it manually
[10:55] <brownie17> aftertaf, and do i have to... (dare i say it?) restart afterwards?
[10:55] <aftertaf> and you can have the updates to the kernel too.....
[10:55] <jasi> hello
[10:55] <aftertaf> brownie17:  for a kernel update, yep
[10:55] <brownie17> aftertaf, thanks. do i have to update imeediatley
[10:55] <dikadika> are the ubuntu forums currently down?
[10:56] <aftertaf> brownie17:  nope.... you dont have to. but it is advised.
[10:56] <aftertaf> brownie17:  what gfx card and drivers do you use?
[10:57] <brownie17> aftertaf, just the standard inbuilt drivers, and a radeon ve/7000 series
[10:57] <brownie17> aftertaf, 32meg
[10:57] <aftertaf> ok brownie17 np ;)    if you get the 686 kernel package installed and boot from it, it is optimiosed for your processor... the i386 is a generic, works on all kernel
[10:58] <Kuolio> uh, forums still down? or is it just me..
[10:58] <aftertaf> and if you install a new kernel it becomes available at boot time in grub, so if you boot on it and have a pb, you can just reboot back to the original ;)
[10:59] <aftertaf> hi twibbler :)
[10:59] <brownie17> aftertaf, aaahh ok. that's phenominal. can i dual boot the 686 also?
[10:59] <twibbler> aftertaf: how are you ....
[11:00] <aftertaf> brownie17:  it isnt dual boot.... but you can choose from different kernels... you can even build your own!!!!
[11:00] <aftertaf> twibbler:  fine, for a monday with a shit proxy ;)
[11:00] <aftertaf> and yourself?
[11:01] <twibbler> aftertaf: are the old crappy proxy bits ..... Me upgraded to breezy on Friday then spent 5 hours fixing the xserver ...
[11:01] <after_cig> twibbler:  hehe, its a good learning process, tinkering and repairing linux :)
[11:01] <dooglus> does http://www.wordcount.org/main.php crash firefox for anyone else?
[11:01] <ohphracku> dumb question: howto list all currently install packages at commandline
[11:01] <brownie17> aftertaf, that was really just a way to say it. but cool. building your own kernel would just be compiling someone elses code with special additions? or do you mean regular people actualy re-write it on occasion!?
[11:01] <after_cig> dooglus:  checking
[11:02] <twibbler> after_cig: not when the only reason is the default fixed font isn't defined correctly ...
[11:02] <dooglus> after_cig: make sure you don't mind losing tab contents first...
[11:02] <dooglus> after_cig: it makes all my tabs vanish.
[11:03] <after_cig> dooglus:  hehe.. opened ok. i have noscript plugin on.
[11:03] <RadBelgian> hello, I'm new here, I'm trying to find out how to listen to mp3's on ubuntu. Can someone give me a tip on where to start?
[11:03] <after_cig> twibbler:  yeah... i heard about that one too..... i panicked and got it working, beginners luck, quite fast with xfs reinstalled
[11:04] <dooglus> after_cig: "noscript plugin"?
[11:04] <after_cig> RadBelgian:  look in your multimedia menu on start menu.
[11:04] <brownie17> dooglus, no, i am using 1.0.7
[11:04] <after_cig> dooglus:  yep... its an extension . blocks all javascript
[11:04] <twibbler> after_cig: resinstalled wverything still had to find the bits to edit .... it was a bit like magic roundabout ... and is it me or is breezy faster than hoary ...
[11:04] <dooglus> after_cig: oh, i see.  this is a 'flash' page.  i guess if you don't run flash then it won't crash
[11:04] <Licker> bob2: what was that command to set a pass for mysql?
[11:04] <AnkhWeasel> I'm going to assume this is me being a newbie, but - is the J2SE plug-in for FireFox repository accessible?
[11:04] <bob2> Licker: didn't you get it off a webpage?
[11:05] <Licker> http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/default-privileges.html <--was looking at that.. i didnt understand it though
[11:05] <after_cig> dooglus:  works 4 me
[11:05] <twibbler> Licker: install the mysql addons and use mysql_setpermission ... youll like it ...
[11:06] <dooglus> after_cig: what if you click 'next word' in the top right corner about 7 times?
[11:06] <twibbler> geek: are you having a identity crisis ..... :)
[11:06] <dooglus> afaik: for me it steps forward one word at a time, and crashes, usually around word 7.
[11:06] <RadBelgian> help msg
[11:06] <Licker> twibble: what addons? Im still newish to Linux. someone told me to lose WIN and go LIN  :p  So im doing taht.
[11:07] <twibbler> Licker: very good idea ... hold on I find out the actual bits you need to install ...
[11:07] <hansi_xp> xp is not the root of all evil
[11:07] <Licker> yes it is
[11:07] <Licker> my XP machines sux nuts
[11:07] <brownie17> Licker, don't do it if you are a newbie to lin. keep win too. it is pretty difficult to learn, and if you don't have a backup, you could easily stuff your syste
[11:07] <Licker> ;)
[11:08] <Licker> i have 3 PCs Brownie17
[11:08] <hansi_xp> sometimes you need to use xp
[11:08] <Licker> ;)
[11:08] <Licker> just swaped my server one out
[11:08] <Licker> ;)
[11:08] <Licker> twibbler: thanx dude
[11:08] <mrchicago> hey how can i submit programs i wrote myself to unbuntu
[11:08] <siimo> why is forums down? server upgrading to breezy? :-S
[11:09] <Seveas> mrchicago, wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[11:09] <selinium> hansi_xp, why? I haven't booted m$ for 6 months.. And i dont have a rally slow machine running other peoples software just to stop it from being hijacked if I switch it on!
[11:09] <Licker> lokl
[11:09] <Licker> lol*
[11:10] <bam_> the only thing i need xp for is my vb programming for my work
[11:10] <ohphracku> howto list all currently install packages? apt-cache options*foo
[11:10] <bam_> oh and ubuntu wont recognize my zen micro
[11:11] <AnkhWeasel> How do you install J2SE for Firefox?
[11:11] <RadBelgian> Can I ask a quick question, which music player do you guys use to listen to mp3's?
[11:11] <bam_> beep
[11:11] <bam_> for music
[11:11] <hansi_xp> selinium: i like xp and linux
[11:11] <bam_> apt-cache search java
[11:11] <gorilla> RadBelgian, an ipod
[11:11] <Licker> I do however need to put Putty on my WIN machine
[11:12] <skrangle> hello, where can I direct n00b questions?
[11:12] <dooglus> skrangle: here.
[11:12] <mrchicago> what i have done is write a program to adjust the gamma brightness on monitor
[11:12] <skrangle> ok, fantastic :)
[11:12] <kairu0> release the n00bieness!
[11:12] <mrchicago> and a desktop internetsearch tool
[11:12] <selinium> hansi_xp, Its fine, there is too many subscribers to invalidate it, but you have to admit it has some pretty serious flaws, starting with cost!
[11:13] <skrangle> is it possible to install from a usb storage device, since my laptop cdrom is fried
[11:13] <AnkhWeasel> Thanks, bam...still don't have it.
[11:13] <[Wiebel] > anyone where ever tried to get mplayerplug-in working in opera?
[11:14] <kairu0> [Wiebel] , i'd like to know too
[11:14] <[Wiebel] > so do I :>
[11:14] <[Wiebel] > I can get it loaded
[11:14] <[Wiebel] > but it won't work
[11:14] <[Wiebel] > no errors
[11:14] <hansi_xp> selinium: yeah it does cost, but there is no such thing as a free lunch!
[11:14] <hansi_xp> :D
[11:15] <Seveas> hmm, lunch :)
[11:15] <Licker> o.O
[11:15] <Licker> its 4am here.. breakfest. Mmmmm
[11:15] <selinium> hansi_xp, :) Welcome to the darkside anyway! :)
[11:15] <ompaul> Seveas, early lunch :)
[11:15] <skrangle> how do i install ubuntu from a usb storage device, or where can i find documentation on this ?
[11:16] <Licker> aww.. u scared the XP lover away...
[11:16] <AnkhWeasel> Should just have to set your BIOS to boot from a USB drive..
[11:16] <zyga> hello
[11:16] <zyga> what has happened to the cloop-src
[11:16] <zyga> that's the package that allows one to build cloop-module
[11:16] <shekhar> hello can someone help me with evolution, it keeps crashing...
[11:18] <skrangle> AnkhWeasel yeah but can i just copy over the installcd to the usbdrive for it to boot, or .. ?
[11:18] <kairu0> [Wiebel] , i just got it working
[11:18] <[Wiebel] > how?
[11:18] <kairu0> [Wiebel] , i copied mozplugger.so to my ~/.opera folder
[11:18] <[Wiebel] > mozplugger?
[11:18] <[Wiebel] > hmmz
[11:19] <AnkhWeasel> I'd ..guess so, sk.
[11:19] <kairu0> [Wiebel] , i also had configured my mozplugger in advance to work with Totem
[11:19] <[Wiebel] > it works inline?
[11:19] <kairu0> [Wiebel] , yes
[11:19] <AnkhWeasel> Bleh. So has anyone got J2SE working in Firefox?
[11:20] <[Wiebel] > AnkhWeasel: sure, works out of the box
[11:20] <indypende> wht forums are down?
[11:20] <[Wiebel] > wht sucks :)
[11:20] <smott> is there some way i can make linux password prompts more bsd-like (i.e. if i type the wrong password i want to be able to retry without waiting a few seconds)
[11:20] <AnkhWeasel> You mean like, the Ubuntu repositories online, Wiebel?
[11:20] <skrangle> some other question, as a first time ubuntu and linux user, would you recommend the 5.04 or 5.10 release
[11:21] <smott> skrangle: 5.10
[11:21] <indypende> why forums are down?
[11:21] <skrangle> tx
[11:21] <[Wiebel] > AnkhWeasel: que?
[11:21] <AnkhWeasel> It's just..my Firefox can't actually _find_ the install for it, man.
[11:23] <shekhar> Seveas, can you tell me why evolution crashes so frequently? or is it just my installation?
[11:23] <kairu0> skrangle, 5.10 still has some bugs but its better in your case
[11:24] <gorilla> shekhar, your installation.. perhasp lack of memory.
[11:24] <shekhar> gorilla, i have 1.5 gb ram!
[11:24] <ph8> hi all
[11:24] <ph8> is there a log of the last packages installed anywhere?
[11:25] <[Wiebel] > AnkhWeasel: i have it working after installing breezy
[11:25] <gorilla> shekhar, oh.. I have 1 gig and haven't had evolution crash yet.
[11:25] <AnkhWeasel> Ah...
[11:25] <AnkhWeasel> So I should probably upgrade to 5.10.
[11:25] <concept10> Anyone know how to recover my saved passwords from Firefox?  I just installed breezy and I have a prior backup of my /home directory
[11:26] <shekhar> gorilla, evolution repeatedly crashing on me, and my installation is less than a week old
[11:26] <selinium> concept10 it is on the mozilla site
[11:26] <concept10> selinium, okay, thanks
[11:26] <[Wiebel] > kairu0: can't get it tow work here
[11:26] <dooglus> ph8: I don't know if there's a log, but if you look /var/cache/apt/archives you'll see the cached packages. "ls -ltr" in there will kind of be like a log
[11:26] <[Wiebel] > just seeing a black screen
[11:26] <[Wiebel] > kairu0: where did you test?
[11:27] <selinium> concept10, basically, it kept in the /home/user/.mozilla-thunderbird folder but look up backup thunderbird..
[11:27] <dooglus> ph8: oh, also I just spotted /var/log/dpkg.log - that's what you're after.
[11:28] <Mr-Falkor> wee
[11:28] <ryni-Q> how can I mount a second hdd in UBUNTU
[11:28] <Mr-Falkor> my nVidia drivers works now :)
[11:29] <AnkhWeasel> Hope this works. Back in a bit.
[11:29] <lorenzod> ryni-Q mount /dev/<harddisk> /some/mount/point ??
[11:29] <concept10> is there a .deb for realplayer anywhere?
[11:30] <Mr-Falkor> I dont mean to be an asshole,.. but -- I think that gnome is a little bit booring (the other window managers too),.. I need something that not looks like a "toon", something refreshing
[11:30] <ryni-Q> 10x lorenzod
[11:30] <aftertaf> dooglus:  seems to work ok.....
[11:30] <aftertaf> concept10:  helix
[11:30] <concept10> aftertaf, helix and realplayer are not the same.
[11:31] <ph8> thanks a lot dooglus
[11:31] <ph8> Breezy Badger is out?
[11:31] <Seveas> no
[11:31] <Seveas> oct. 13
[11:31] <ph8> oh
[11:31] <ph8> soon then :d
[11:31] <ph8> soon then :d
[11:31] <ph8> FS
[11:31] <Mr-Falkor> hum
[11:31] <aftertaf> concept10:  true, but helix supports rp.
[11:31] <Mr-Falkor> weard
[11:31] <ph8> :p caps
[11:31] <Mr-Falkor> I have breezy
[11:31] <Mr-Falkor> :P
[11:31] <m0r0n> Where can I search for repositories to get PHP5?
[11:31] <aftertaf> Mr-Falkor:  you have a 'beta' version
[11:31] <dooglus> ph8: breezy is due on Oct 13th
[11:32] <Mr-Falkor> dang!
[11:32] <Mr-Falkor> =(
[11:32] <Mr-Falkor> :P
[11:32] <Mr-Falkor> hehe
[11:32] <ohphracku> ive noticed a few synaptic bugs in breezy
[11:32] <ph8> so will dist-upgrade install breezy?
[11:32] <aftertaf> Mr-Falkor:  dont worry, you have problems, you ask and you bugreport
[11:32] <aftertaf> ph8:  if you change repos yes
[11:32] <ph8> i see
[11:32] <ph8> ty
[11:32] <aftertaf> !upgrade2breezy
[11:32] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[11:32] <Mr-Falkor> aftertaf, So I can do a apt-get dist-upgrade the oct 13 ?
[11:32] <concept10> ohphracku, like what?
[11:32] <ohphracku> they probably have been reported
[11:32] <frankk> hey people, is ubuntuforums.org down?
[11:32] <aftertaf> Mr-Falkor:  yep... (and before too
[11:32] <Mr-Falkor> :)
[11:33] <Mr-Falkor> I love apt-get
[11:33] <aftertaf> ohphracku:  maybe, but reporting gets more weight on them, and confirmed bugs that are hanging aroud
[11:33] <concept10> anyone know a good tutorial for making .debs?  should I just use checkinstall?
[11:33] <Casanova> i get the following error when i run make
[11:33] <aftertaf> Mr-Falkor:  apt-get moo :)
[11:33] <Casanova> make: LIBTOOL@: Command not found
[11:33] <Casanova> make: *** [appmap]  Error 127
[11:33] <aftertaf> Casanova:  dont paste.
[11:33] <ph8> I don't have a dkpg.log
[11:33] <Casanova> does some know why
[11:33] <Mr-Falkor> aftertaf, the beta seems very stable :)
[11:33] <ph8> * pkg
[11:33] <dooglus> when breezy boots, do the kernel messages have some huge timestamp on them now, instead of starting from zero like they used to?
[11:33] <Casanova> aftertaf, just 2 lines?
[11:33] <aftertaf> ok. phew sorry Casanova  :)
[11:34] <ph8> i got it using apt-get if it makes a difference
[11:34] <aftertaf> ppl start like that and sometimes fill the screen ;)
[11:34] <dooglus> I see lines like this: [4294675.502000]  hub 1-0:1.0: USB hub found
[11:34] <dooglus> like the kernel has been up for 4.2 million seconds
[11:34] <aftertaf> Mr-Falkor:  depends which day..... but yeah, its getting there
[11:34] <Casanova> is aftertaf a bot?
[11:34] <aftertaf> lol
[11:34] <dooglus> /var/log/dpkg.log ph8?
[11:35] <ph8> no
[11:35] <Mr-Falkor> aftertaf, jepp :)
[11:35] <ph8> not there
[11:35] <aftertaf> nope, i'm just bored and so hanging around :)
[11:35] <dooglus> breezy, ph8?
[11:35] <ph8> i've tried it the other way but got an unexpected result
[11:35] <ohphracku> ok when selecting the different package sections in synaptic often/somtimes the section will be empty then you come bak to it and it'll show the packages in that group.
[11:35] <ph8> no
[11:35] <Casanova> well anyway can some one help me with my problem?
[11:35] <dooglus> maybe it's new in breezy ph8
[11:35] <ph8> I was trying to install a java Dev Environment so i can use BlueJ (which i'll use at uni)
[11:35] <aftertaf> loooooooool Casanova thx man ;)
[11:35] <ph8> so i tried the free-java-sdk package
[11:35] <ph8> which also installed a load of other stuff
[11:35] <dooglus> Casanova: what are you trying to make?
[11:36] <Belutz> aftertaf is a bot... a living ubuntu bot :D
[11:36] <ph8> the VM it provides is crap so i want to try sun's .bin now
[11:36] <AnkhWeasel> Woah. It has to download 500MB of stuff. >_<
[11:36] <aftertaf> Casanova:  you get that whatever you try to make?
[11:36] <ph8> but apt-get remove free-java-sdk only removes that package
[11:36] <ph8> not all the bumpf it installed with it
[11:36] <dooglus> aftertaf: that's not possible, I don't think
[11:36] <ph8> the idea of which bugs me
[11:36] <Casanova> dooglus, a small program called appmap part of a project called LDTP
[11:36] <Casanova> aftertaf, ??
[11:36] <ph8> do you see my dilemma?
[11:36] <dooglus> Casanova: URL?
[11:37] <Casanova> dooglus, i have it on mail
[11:37] <dooglus> Casanova: ugh.  it's going to be hard to debug then
[11:37] <concept10> I dont understand this.  Im on breezy, I try to install 'build-essential' and it says its going to install gcc-3.3-base, I thought breezy was using gcc 4.0...?
[11:38] <aftertaf> hehe.... everyone went to comedy school in here i see ;)
[11:38] <skrangle> anyone know how to install ubuntu from usbdrive?
[11:38] <ph8> dooglus: Do you see what i mean
[11:38] <ph8> s/mean/mean?
[11:38] <aftertaf> concept10:  maybe a dependancy of build-essential?
[11:38] <mrchicago> heh, ill submit it to freshmeat
[11:38] <concept10> aftertaf, yes, I guess so..
[11:39] <dooglus> ph8: sed: -e expression #1, char 9: unterminated `s' command
[11:39] <aftertaf> concept10:  guess not:    gcc (>= 4:4.0), g++ (>= 4:4.0) in dependencies..... wierd
[11:39] <concept10> aftertaf, is breezy based mostly on sid?
[11:40] <twibbler> !tell Licker about repositories
[11:40] <dooglus> ph8: I use "debfoster" to make sure all the associated junk gets removed.
[11:40] <aftertaf> concept10:  afaik, the ubuntu team snapshot sid every 6 months when they start new development....
[11:41] <aftertaf> concept10:  i read it somewhere...... but could be wrong
[11:41] <twibbler> a quick ? how do I restart the cups system without rebooting ?....
[11:41] <dooglus> ph8: first time you run it, it will ask you a lot of questions about which packages you want to keep, but after that, it's very useful
[11:41] <Seveas> twibbler, /etc/init.d/cupsys restart
[11:41] <dooglus> sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart
[11:42] <HiddenWolf> Seveas, sudo!
[11:42] <aftertaf> twibbler:  many mysteries and happiness is to be found in the /etc/init.d folder of godness
[11:42] <mrchicago> im submitting to freshemat
[11:43] <twibbler> Seveas: aftertaf: thank you I reverted to unix i had ./etc/init.d/cupsys and it didn't work ....
[11:44] <Seveas> aftertaf, the real godness is in /etc/sudoers
[11:44] <Seveas> a configfile that requires you to understand BNF :|
[11:45] <aftertaf> Seveas:  i hate this keyb too. everytime i type good it only listens on one O
[11:45] <aftertaf> !BNF
[11:45] <ubotu> aftertaf: I give up, what is it?
[11:45] <aftertaf> hehe
[11:45] <Seveas> man sudoers
[11:45] <ph8> ty
[11:45] <ph8> i'll try debfoster
[11:46] <Seveas> it'll freak you out unless you have an MSc in comp.sci. :)
[11:46] <Tomcat_> debfoster looks interesting...
[11:46] <aftertaf> i have an mcse in babylon-ness
[11:46] <Tomcat_> Better than my deborphan hacks... :o
[11:46] <Seveas> debfoster is 'tha bomb'
[11:46] <aftertaf> i imagine you with a cap turned half backwards when you talk like that ;)
[11:46] <daloydoy> hello people
[11:46] <Seveas> hi
[11:47] <Seveas> aftertaf, caps don't fit on http://kaarsemaker.net/images/hackergotchi.jpg :p
[11:47] <concept10> Anyone recently started using Opera?  its nice but it doesnt render some pages properly.  i.e. the ubuntu site
[11:48] <ph8> dooglus: after this initial questioning, do i have to use it as a wrapper to install/remove stuff or such?
[11:48] <Seveas> operas CSS support sucks
[11:48] <ph8> or is it something i run occasionally
[11:48] <aftertaf> yeah Seveas, seen it ;)    u sure youre not a bot :p
[11:48] <Seveas> I tend to say it's worse than IE, but it's a little better
[11:48] <daloydoy> how can i load startup scripts in ubuntu? like rc.local in rh
[11:48] <aftertaf> anyone got a flash plugin for lynx?
[11:48] <marcellus> How do I change the keyboard layout? My nice setup of being able to switch between english and swedish (grp:alt_shift_toggle) was broken when I upgraded to Xorg :/
[11:48] <aftertaf> daloydoy:  /etc/init.d/
[11:49] <concept10> Seveas, the CSS may suck, but I must admit that it is very quick
[11:49] <Seveas> daloydoy, put them in init.d and create links from the appropriate runlevels
[11:49] <Seveas> concept10, only because it links everything static
[11:49] <Seveas> you can make all of ubuntu that quick
[11:49] <Crys_UbuPC> Hey. You guys were right. Ubuntu runs faster with BlackBox.
[11:49] <Seveas> it would just require a 'few' more gigs of HD space
[11:49] <Crys_UbuPC> Now how do I configure it?
[11:50] <Seveas> and a whole lot more downloading on upgrades
[11:50] <Crys_UbuPC> What I mean is: Is there a default ubuntu menu.rc I can download?
[11:51] <concept10> I wish I could find this website were someone posted how gnome 2.12 cairo should look compares to how it looks now.
[11:52] <dooglus> ph8: you can use debfoster to install and remove packages instead of using apt-get
[11:52] <dooglus> ph8: but you don't have to.  you can just use it every now and then to prune junk
[11:53] <ph8> nice
[11:53] <ph8> nice indeed
[11:53] <ph8> just cleared up the afore mentioned gunk
[11:53] <aftertaf> Seveas:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BNF :)
[11:53] <ph8> ty
[11:53] <dooglus> ph8: that was quick.  when I ran it for the first time it asked me over 100 questions.
[11:54] <ph8> i think it asked me about 70
[11:54] <dooglus> ph8: you can use "sudo debfoster java" to install java, and "sudo debfoster java-" to uninstall it
[11:55] <ph8> i see
[11:55] <dooglus> (where 'java' is a package name)
[11:55] <ph8> id
[11:55] <dooglus> nejsem
[11:55] <ph8> but it appears a good development java VM isn't packaged with ubuntu
[11:55] <ph8> if what i've just downloaded is anything to go by
[11:55] <ph8> therefore i'll try the sun .bin later today
[11:55] <dooglus> sun java is non-free, so it's not packaged with ubuntu
[11:56] <darksatanic> ph8: When you do, use the java-package package.
[11:56] <ph8> java-common?
[11:56] <ph8> oh my bad
[11:56] <ph8> whuzzat then?
[11:57] <dooglus> java-package takes Sun's .bin and turns it into a .deb package so you can install and uninstall it cleanly
[11:57] <ph8> fantastic
[11:58] <ph8> can't find a man entry though, what's the cmd?
[11:58] <Ludolf> Kann hier irgendjemand Deutsch?
[11:59] <dooglus> ph8: it's a package you need to install
[11:59] <ph8> i've got the package
[11:59] <ph8> but it creates a binary to run on the .bin?
[11:59] <dooglus> dpkg -L java-package will list its contents
[11:59] <ph8> ah, who knew! :p
[12:00] <ph8> so make-jpkg sunfile.bin
[12:00] <ph8> then dkpg the .deb
[12:00] <ph8> thanks for that, it's probably saved me loads of time
[12:00] <dooglus> 16:21 < Seveas> gautham: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 
[12:01] <dooglus> ^-- that's how I've seen it explained in the past by a resident expert
[12:01] <ph8> :o)
[12:01] <A-star> still no news about the forums?
[12:01] <ph8> ta
[12:01] <ph8> what's going on with the forums?
[12:01] <dooglus> down, innum
[12:01] <ph8> thought they were 'testing functionality' though?
[12:04] <Seveas> dooglus, !sunjava has the more reasonable version of that ;)
[12:04] <sobersabre> hi. i am using breezy. there's qt dependency of skype 1.2.0.17 , and the packlage is in "broken" state
[12:04] <sobersabre> how do I make it not to be broken ?
[12:04] <sobersabre> it runs ok, but it is in the broken state
[12:04] <concept10> omg, all of my apps in System > Preferences are gone.  I think this is because of the gnome-desktop metapackage being removed
[12:04] <sobersabre> it is package names incompatibility
[12:05] <concept10> sobersabre, I just tried the same, couldnt get it installed myself
[12:05] <Seveas> sobersabre, it's an error from the skype developers
[12:05] <sobersabre> Seveas, so have they been notified ?
[12:05] <Seveas> You shoukd be able to hack up the deb to make it work
[12:05] <sobersabre> they should know the qt package name for breezy
[12:05] <obontu> ubuntu won't save my resoultion
[12:05] <hopsing> I seem to have happened in on the tail end of a discussion of the same problem I'm having - namely, loading in a jre. The instructions in the Unofficial Ubuntu guide don't wuite make it and I'm too green with Linux to figure it out. Any quick instruction for rookie?
[12:05] <sobersabre> Seveas, what do I change ?
[12:05] <sobersabre> isn't the deb signed ?
[12:06] <obontu> even though i got "default" ticked
[12:06] <obontu> i'm using 1024*768
[12:06] <Seveas> hopsing, ubuntuguide.org is bad
[12:06] <Seveas> hopsing, breezy or hoary?
[12:06] <elkbuntu> obontu: what sort of video card?
[12:06] <obontu> and i restart my machine it goes back to 1280*1024
[12:06] <obontu> geforce 4 mx
[12:06] <Seveas> sobersabre, unsigned debs can be installed too ;)
[12:06] <sobersabre> true
[12:06] <hopsing> Hmm. so far has been pretty good just not on jre
[12:06] <concept10> this sucks, I cant remove rhythmbox without removing gnome-desktop
[12:06] <Seveas> lemme see if I can hack it up, where can I download the deb?
[12:06] <sobersabre> Seveas,  so what do I edit ?
[12:07] <elkbuntu> obontu when you restary your machine, do you go thru shut down and check 'save session'?
[12:07] <obontu> nope
[12:07] <desplesda> hi, i've got a crazy problem with what appears to be an accidental removal of dpkg
[12:07] <obontu> i don't think i never did "save session"
[12:07] <elkbuntu> obontu: try that
[12:07] <obontu> ah right!
[12:07] <obontu> save current setup!
[12:07] <obontu> thanx!
[12:07] <obontu> i will
[12:07] <elkbuntu> :)
[12:08] <Seveas> sobersabre, where can I download the skype deb?
[12:08] <hopsing> Seveas, you look like you've got your hands full - can you point me to a better source that Ubunto unoffical?
[12:08] <elkbuntu> btw, i take it im not the only person having issues with ubuntuforums?
[12:08] <sobersabre> Seveas, SKYPE.COM :)
[12:08] <Seveas> hopsing, breezy or hoary?
[12:08] <hopsing> Seveas - hoary
[12:08] <sobersabre> Seveas, i am editing something...
[12:08] <Seveas> I;m lazy, was hoping for a nice direct link ;)
[12:09] <Seveas> hopsing, grab a .deb file from ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/
[12:09] <hopsing> Seveas - ok thanks
[12:11] <obontu> it didn't help
[12:11] <jita> anyone knows of warty-release?
[12:11] <elkbuntu> hmm
[12:11] <jita> when it releases?
[12:11] <obontu> i still got that 1280x1024 when i restarted
[12:11] <jita> released*
[12:11] <elkbuntu> you do have other options in the resolution though, right?
[12:11] <obontu> hmmm
[12:11] <kemik> jita:  warty was release almost a year ago
[12:11] <obontu> i have save default
[12:12] <obontu> and it's tagged
[12:12] <jita> damn ok thanx kemik
[12:12] <obontu> maybe i can change it via some text file or something?
[12:12] <bzimage> jita, october 2004
[12:12] <kemik> jita:  breezy will be released on oct 13
[12:12] <obontu> change the default res?
[12:12] <elkbuntu> im no expert on the xorg.conf file, maybe someone else here is
[12:12] <sobersabre> Seveas, how do i extract the contents of a deb into current directory ?
[12:12] <bzimage> jita, hoary was released in april 2005
[12:13] <bzimage> hmm..
[12:13] <sobersabre> tar doesn't help...
[12:13] <bzimage> left
[12:13] <elkbuntu> obontu, do you have an ubuntu live cd?
[12:13] <elkbuntu> or just the install one?
[12:14] <obontu> no
[12:14] <obontu> install one
[12:14] <obontu> i'm ubuntu as my main os
[12:14] <obontu> and only os
[12:15] <limguohong91> Do i need any Anti-virus for Ubuntu?
[12:15] <bimberi> sobersabre: you can use the Archive Manager (Apps -> Accessories)
[12:15] <bzimage> sobersabre, check: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2001/07/msg00645.html
[12:15] <kemik> limguohong91:  the odds of getting a virus is reaaaaally slim
[12:15] <bzimage> (cli based)
[12:15] <tudor> how come the clamav is outdated in breezy?
[12:15] <limguohong91> I see
[12:16] <elkbuntu> obontu: well, if you have the bandwidth, download the live cd and see if it runs the resolution right. if it does, copy the file xorg.conf to a USB drive or a floppy, and then take the live cd out and copy the xorg.conf from the usb or floppy and see if it helps
[12:16] <obontu> can't i just edit thta file?
[12:17] <elkbuntu> sure, but i have no idea what part to edit, let alone what to edit it to
[12:17] <Nikopol> !lirc
[12:17] <ubotu> Nikopol: Not a clue
[12:17] <selinium> limguohong91, The way that ubuntu does not have access to the root, means even if you did somehow manage to get a virus, Which is soooo unlikely, it will only effect the user not the root operating system
[12:18] <kemik> ok. so i'm a bit lost here.. downloaded a GDM theme from gnome-looks.org.. am i not supposed to "install it" via System>>Prefs>Theme ?
[12:18] <obontu> ok
[12:18] <elkbuntu> obontu: do you know anyone who has a live cd with preferably gnome desktop?
[12:18] <obontu> well i have this dir which i can't delete from my desktop, it has a lock on it
[12:18] <elkbuntu> presuming that's the desktop you're running
[12:18] <bzimage> kemik, no.. you need to use the gdm manager for that
[12:18] <obontu> how can i delete it?
[12:18] <bzimage> (to configure gdm)
[12:18] <elkbuntu> what's it called obontu?
[12:18] <obontu> i don't even know any other ppl running linux beside me around here
[12:19] <obontu> essential-20050412
[12:19] <obontu> those were mplayer codecs i d/led
[12:19] <elkbuntu> do you have a cd in your cd drive?
[12:19] <obontu> but i don't use mplayer anymore
[12:19] <obontu> nope
[12:19] <bzimage> it's called gdmsetup
[12:19] <kemik> bzimage:  ok. ty.. i though it was the same...  =)
[12:19] <obontu> it says i don't have permission to it
[12:19] <limguohong91> I have been seeing that peopel can install Icons, how do i do it?
[12:20] <bzimage> :)
[12:20] <obontu> how do i remove dirs in console?
[12:20] <obontu> rdir?
[12:20] <chrissturm> rmdir
[12:20] <obontu> thanx
[12:20] <selinium> obontu: a couple of ways, either run gksudo nautilus to get a root file browser and do it through there, or sudo rm -r /root/to/folder. But if you are new to linux use the former
[12:20] <jez> I'm currently logged onto an Ununtu live Linux install, and was wondering if i could use it to partition a drive on this machine.  Is this possible?
[12:20] <mindmedic> limaunion, go to art.gnome.org, open your the theme settings, and drag the download link into the theme manager...
[12:20] <selinium> obontu, Are you new to linux?
[12:21] <obontu> kinda
[12:21] <obontu> i used redhat before
[12:21] <obontu> but that was like 4-5 years ago
[12:21] <obontu> so you might say i'm new yeah
[12:21] <selinium> use gksudo nautilus to delete it, you won't make any horrific mistakes :)
[12:21] <selinium> in a term
[12:22] <obontu> hmm
[12:22] <obontu> it says
[12:22] <obontu> nautilus:7450): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[12:22] <obontu> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[12:22] <elkbuntu> ignore that
[12:22] <elkbuntu> it should still open it
[12:22] <obontu> when i open my desktop dir
[12:22] <obontu> i see nothing on it
[12:22] <obontu> though there is a dir on it
[12:23] <elkbuntu> that'd be nothing to do with the gnome warning
[12:23] <selinium> obontu, that is because it is the root desktop goto /home/user/desktop
[12:23] <selinium> obonto: using gksudo has made the pc believe you are the root
[12:23] <elkbuntu> where the word user is your user's name of course
[12:23] <obontu> gotcha thanx
[12:23] <obontu> now i got files in my trash i can't delete
[12:24] <obontu> they say i don't have permission
[12:24] <ppine> Hello, how do i check and make sure my system is using the latest/best drivers available for my hardware ?
[12:24] <selinium> ok, in /home/user click view/show hidden. go to .trash and delete those
[12:25] <selinium> not the folder, the contents
[12:25] <obontu> thanx
[12:25] <selinium> np
[12:25] <cat> !root
[12:25] <ubotu> I guess root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[12:26] <selinium> obontu, do you understand the sudo stuff?
[12:26] <jez> I'm currently logged onto an Ununtu live Linux install, and was wondering if i could use it to partition a drive on this machine.  Is this possible?
[12:26] <kemik> !sudo
[12:26] <ubotu> I heard sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[12:26] <obontu> yes
[12:26] <buz> jez: if qtparted is installed, yes
[12:26] <obontu> is the trash icon supposed to look full all the time?
[12:26] <buz> oh no wait
[12:26] <buz> this is ubuntu ;)
[12:26] <kemik> obontu:  not if the trash is empty
[12:26] <obontu> it looks full
[12:26] <jez> buz: the HD doesnt seem to be currently mounted tho
[12:26] <cat> !warty
[12:26] <ubotu> cat: Are you smoking crack?
[12:26] <obontu> but it says
[12:26] <obontu> 0 items
[12:27] <cat> !hoary
[12:27] <ubotu> it has been said that hoary is a word that means grey or ancient.  Shakespeare made a joke about it in his play Romeo and Juliet
[12:27] <buz> jez: you cant partition mounted drives anyhow ;)
[12:27] <obontu> when i click it the title shows a empty trash
[12:27] <Crys_UbuPC> Holy crap! kde is gorgeous!
[12:27] <buz> !php
[12:27] <ubotu> php is, like, totally, in the package libapache2-mod-php4 (apache) or php4-cli (command line)
[12:27] <selinium> obontu: the reason why you couldn't delete things is because you didn't have the authority. Using sudo will give you the auth. But be careful when deleting, sometimes there is no way back.
[12:27] <buz> !phpize
[12:27] <ubotu> buz: Not a clue
[12:27] <jez> buz: yeah but im wondering whether it lets you even see the drive
[12:27] <jez> because it creates this virtual memory FS
[12:27] <buz> yes it does
[12:27] <obontu> but the icon in my "taskbar"(?)| shows it full
[12:27] <buz> it lives in /dev/hd*
[12:28] <elkbuntu> ive been told enlightenment is like pure crack
[12:28] <Crys_UbuPC> It's like a pretty more functional version of gnome.
[12:28] <buz> as always ;)
[12:28] <Skid> lol
[12:28] <Skid> what about xfce ? ;p
[12:28] <obontu> there it's fine now
[12:28] <Crys_UbuPC> enlightenment looks wonderful, but it doesn't auto-configure.
[12:28] <selinium> obontu, cool
[12:28] <cat> Crys_UbuPC, nope it doesn't
[12:28] <cat> try using fluxbox,
[12:29] <elkbuntu> enlightenment is still only young, though
[12:29] <elkbuntu> main reason i havent tried it yet, i dont want my poor little p2 ubuntu box to OD
[12:29] <Crys_UbuPC> I tried blackbox. It looks just bad on linux. Plus the menu is ungood.
[12:29] <cat> Crys_UbuPC, dude it doesn't the theme just looks crappy
[12:29] <Crys_UbuPC> They say it is faster than gnome.
[12:30] <elkbuntu> anything could be faster than gnome
[12:30] <obontu> i installed 2 apps from synaptic
[12:30] <obontu> but i can't find them
[12:30] <Crys_UbuPC> cat I can't install a new theme without the bro@ms in the menu.
[12:30] <elkbuntu> but, gnome is reliable
[12:30] <elkbuntu> tried and tru
[12:30] <obontu> they're not in the "Applications" menu
[12:30] <obontu> where can i find them?
[12:30] <Ruaraidh> Does anybody know how I can uninstall the proprietary ati driver?
[12:30] <Ruaraidh> any help much apprec.
[12:31] <elkbuntu> obontu: go to 'run application' and type in the program names
[12:31] <Crys_UbuPC> elkbuntu, Okay, well it's nice looking have you seen the screenshots?
[12:31] <obontu> are svg icons?
[12:31] <obontu> i mean , are SVG files icons?
[12:31] <elkbuntu> screenshots of which?
[12:32] <obontu> ah kewl
[12:32] <obontu> how do i add them to my "Application Menu"?
[12:32] <Ruaraidh> Before I installed, I was at 1280*1024 res, now 1024*800
[12:32] <elkbuntu> if you want a desktop icon, obontu, right click desktop, click 'create launcher' then type in the name in the command box
[12:32] <avinoam> I set alt+shift to switch languages in KDE and it doesn't work. Anyone know why?
[12:32] <obontu> i want to add them to the application menu
[12:32] <obontu> can i?
[12:33] <elkbuntu> not sure
[12:33] <elkbuntu> lemme test
[12:33] <Crys_UbuPC> cat got a clue for me as to how I should get blackbox up and running without hours of config?
[12:33] <Ruaraidh> Does anyone know how?
[12:33] <Ruaraidh> Am I just being clueless?
[12:33] <selinium> !ati
[12:33] <ubotu> methinks ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[12:33] <Crys_UbuPC> Whoo! I really like this manager. It's cute.
[12:33] <Ruaraidh> thanks loads!
[12:33] <selinium> np
[12:34] <elkbuntu> i dont know obontu, but you can add them to the task bar with the firefox, evolution and gnome help icons
[12:34] <gorilla> Ruaraidh, more likely noones sure what how is..
[12:34] <elkbuntu> just drag the icno from the desktop to there and it'll clone itself there
[12:34] <elkbuntu> icno=icon
[12:34] <obontu> ah ok thanx
[12:35] <Crys_UbuPC> cat, I've seen fluxbox. dsl uses it as default. Runs fast. Runs  pretty.
[12:35] <selinium> obontu, sudo apt-get install smeg     to edit your menus
[12:36] <obontu> smeg?
[12:36] <obontu> thanx
[12:36] <selinium> obontu, honest! :)
[12:36] <humulus> anybody havin' a celeron M cpu? is that right that it does not support cpu throttling?
[12:36] <slb33|away> anyone know when the forum will be back up?
[12:36] <avinoam>  I set alt+shift to switch languages in KDE and it doesn't work. Anyone know why?
[12:37] <obontu> ok just did
[12:37] <obontu> now what?
[12:37] <avinoam> i'm trying to toggle between english and hebrew
[12:37] <selinium> obontu, application/system tools/ smeg menu editor
[12:37] <obontu> thanx
[12:37] <selinium> np
[12:39] <Dethlin> #e
[12:39] <obontu> ok thanx
[12:39] <obontu> it worked
[12:39] <obontu> now i only need 2 more things..
[12:39] <obontu> what's a good mp3 player?
[12:40] <selinium> obontu, if you type user nicks, it beeps them when you post something. If you start to type the name and press tab it will auto-complete it.
[12:40] <obontu> i know
[12:40] <selinium> !mp3
[12:40] <ubotu> somebody said mp3 was read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[12:41] <selinium> ubuntu tell obontu about mp3
[12:41] <jez> ugh
[12:41] <jkw> Anyone know a good guide to get vlc working? I've been trying to complie the sources without luck.
[12:41] <avinoam> anyone with experience with switching keyboard layouts?
[12:41] <selinium> obontu, what was the second?
[12:41] <jez> had to restart, didnt know the default Ubuntu live password
[12:41] <obontu> well
[12:41] <jez> arghhhh!
[12:41] <obontu> can you help me install IE via wine?
[12:41] <jkw> IE? :O
[12:42] <jkw> Why curse the computer like that?
[12:42] <jkw> (If you mean Internet Explorer)
[12:42] <selinium> aarrgh, you can help me when you have found out! I botched an install and still need to remove it!
[12:42] <vagamente> Hi all... is there any CANON PIXMA IP3000 user??????????
[12:42] <obontu> i am
[12:42] <obontu> i really don't want to
[12:42] <obontu> but my gf needs it
[12:42] <obontu> so i have no choice
[12:43] <selinium> jkw: if you do web development it is a necissary evil
[12:43] <jkw> vagamente, Loose some questionmarks.
[12:43] <obontu> i don't feel like dual-booting with windows
[12:43] <cat> obontu, what's wrong?
[12:43] <jez> if your gf needs IE, time to find a new gf
[12:43] <jez> :-P
[12:43] <aftertaf> obontu:  search ieview wine in google i found a good howto on that once.
[12:43] <selinium> lol
[12:43] <obontu> ok, what's a good mp3 player?
[12:43] <jkw> selinium, I do some webdev yes. What is your point with evilness?
[12:44] <vagamente> Hi all... is there any CANON PIXMA IP3000 user???
[12:44] <obontu> maybe there's a web browser which can display some stupid IE loving webpages correctly?
[12:44] <wrabbit> Hello
[12:44] <Red_Bullet> can anybody help me in cedega emulator
[12:44] <jkw> obontu, You don't surf on sites like that. ;-)
[12:44] <rob^> !cedega
[12:44] <ubotu> it has been said that cedega is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega
[12:45] <rob^> jkw, have you checked that out?
[12:45] <selinium> jkw: as ie doesn't comform to W3standards you need to check everything in IE. bas%^*ds
[12:45] <obontu> i understand completely
[12:45] <obontu> i hate IE too
[12:45] <Red_Bullet> but i wan't to ask people because i can understatnd peoples better
[12:45] <Red_Bullet> want
[12:46] <obontu> but i promised her i'll help her, she likes some webpages who won't display properly in FF
[12:46] <jez> How can I resize partitions using Ubuntu live?
[12:46] <jez> install Windows.
[12:46] <elkbuntu> obontu: Opera is nicer with IE-specific pages than firefox is, you can use it free if you put up with some google ads... or dare i say, find a key
[12:46] <obontu> a. it's free now
[12:46] <obontu> b. it doesn't support hebrew correctly
[12:46] <obontu> forget that
[12:46] <aftertaf> obontu:  http://ieview.mozdev.org/
[12:46] <elkbuntu> opera is not free now
[12:46] <obontu> what's a good mp3 player
[12:46] <jkw> selinium, Program after w3 and let the ones using IE see a ugly page.
[12:46] <obontu> it is
[12:46] <obontu> no ads
[12:46] <avinoam> obontu you israeli?
[12:46] <jkw> rob^, Checked what out?
[12:47] <selinium> jkw: sadly that would be 90% of the veiwer.
[12:47] <elkbuntu> there was about a 48 hour period where they had free, but that's over now
[12:47] <obontu> yes avinoam
[12:47] <obontu> but i'm not using kde
[12:47] <gorilla> opera is now nag-free :-)
[12:47] <Dangermouse> it is free
[12:47] <avinoam> obontu, me too
[12:47] <Dangermouse> www.opera.com :)
[12:47] <obontu> i can see
[12:47] <cat> who said it was free/
[12:47] <elkbuntu> :|
[12:47] <selinium> !opera
[12:47] <Kripos> Im a totaly newbie and need some help booting and installing ubuntu. Im currently running winxp, and I have burned ubuntu into a cd. but i cant boot from it. it just says "Cd-error". what can I do?
[12:47] <cat> opera isn't free
[12:47] <Seveas> elkbuntu, since a few days it's free forever
[12:47] <avinoam> obontu, you using kde?
[12:47] <elkbuntu> wow, nice
[12:47] <cat> Kripos, burn it again
[12:47] <rob^> jkw, sorry I meant Red_Bullet
[12:47] <Dangermouse> It is free god damn it. go to www.opera.com
[12:47] <obontu> nope avinoam
[12:48] <obontu> gnome
[12:48] <cat> Dangermouse, it's not
[12:48] <Kripos> cat, Iv burned it twice.
[12:48] <avinoam> eww
[12:48] <cat> !info opera
[12:48] <Seveas> but it's as bad as it is free ;)
[12:48] <cat> ubotu Package 'opera' does not exist.
[12:48] <ubotu> cat: Are you smoking crack?
[12:48] <jkw> selinium, Well, if you ain't going to do it after the standards, then why care who sees the site as it should look?
[12:48] <aftertaf> ________definition of free ? ________
[12:48] <elkbuntu> i just checked cat, it is free... wow
[12:48] <avinoam> Kripos, perhaps it's a faulty download?
[12:48] <Dangermouse> ok free as in no ads..
[12:48] <Seveas> aftertaf, in this case -- gratis
[12:48] <Seveas> not free software
[12:48] <jkw> Gratis r gott.
[12:48] <aftertaf> Seveas:  yep... not free in open source free.
[12:49] <avinoam> Kripos, did you do a md5sum check?
[12:49] <Seveas> and not free as in bug-free :)
[12:49] <Kripos> avinoam, hmm, doesnt seems so, downloaded it from ubuntu.com and everything worked fine and no damage on the .iso image. hmm
[12:49] <aftertaf> i cant get it to install, keeps going on about libqt3c-mt
[12:49] <elkbuntu> free as in cost free though, and for most people that's sufficient
[12:49] <aftertaf> elkbuntu:  exactly ;)
[12:49] <Dangermouse> ok if you're going to be anal over terminology, that's your prerogative ;)
[12:49] <Seveas> aftertaf, I have a patched deb
[12:49] <selinium> Seveas, have you any idea when the forums willl be back online?
[12:49] <aftertaf> Seveas:  :)
[12:49] <Seveas> well for opera, the debian etch version will do
[12:49] <Kripos> which file does it actually boot from, from the cd?
[12:49] <avinoam> Kripos, did you check md5sum?
[12:49] <rdel>  hu
[12:49] <Seveas> selinium, no idea, I never use the forums
[12:50] <elkbuntu> just because the GPL exists, doesnt mean you have to snob anything that isnt GPL
[12:50] <rdel> hi
[12:50] <Seveas> too much idiots on there ;)
[12:50] <Kripos> avinoam, I will now.
[12:50] <aftertaf> Seveas:  the sid one i got is no good, you got a url??
[12:50] <avinoam> Kripos, you burnt it as an ISO?
[12:50] <Seveas> elkbuntu, I don't snob non-free things
[12:50] <Kripos> It is unpacked ;)
[12:50] <Seveas> opera is just bad.
[12:50] <avinoam> Kripos, or did you copy the iso file onto the CD?
[12:50] <Seveas> aftertaf, debian *etch*
[12:50] <aftertaf> i want to try it for its irc client, with the proxy pbs i keep having
[12:51] <aftertaf> oki Seveas ;)
[12:51] <selinium> Seveas: Found that out the hardway. I followed a walktrough on installing wine and winetools through cvs, Now I cant get rid of winetools.
[12:51] <Kripos> avinoam, I recorded it as a image, and I got all the files and dirs such as ".disk", "install" etc on the cd
[12:51] <elkbuntu> alas, if you're in my industry (web development) then you cant just avoid it cos it's not exactly what everyone likes... there are alot of opera lovers out there
[12:51] <Seveas> now who was talking about skyoe before my connection died?
[12:51] <Seveas> skype even...
[12:51] <selinium> Seveas, aftertaf
[12:51] <selinium> i beleive
[12:52] <selinium> I have the same prob
[12:52] <elkbuntu> personally, i prefer opera to firefox because it's faster. firefox is getting quite weighed down with mods and plugins and stuff
[12:52] <junig> hello
[12:52] <aftertaf> hi junig
[12:52] <amadeus> hello
[12:52] <Seveas> corrected skype deb: seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/~skype/skype_1.2.0.17-1_i386.deb
[12:52] <avinoam> Kripos, i'm guessing faulty DL, but the md5sum will tell you that
[12:52] <cat> amadeus, hello
[12:52] <Jono{}> Hey got a newb q for ya. Whats the root pw on the live cd?
[12:53] <nige> jono
[12:53] <Seveas> Jono{}, there is no root password
[12:53] <nige> type
[12:53] <cat> Jono{}, do this sudo -s
[12:53] <nige> sudo passwd
[12:53] <Seveas> cat, better do sudo -i
[12:53] <nige> then put in a new password
[12:53] <selinium> elkbuntu, the beauty of FF is that you can speed it up by altering the about:config
[12:53] <Seveas> nige, bad advice
[12:53] <Kripos> avinoam, I will check the image with MD5Sum now
[12:53] <selinium> Seveas, Cheers
[12:53] <Jono{}> oh sweet thanks guys...
[12:53] <aftertaf> selinium:  really?  explain ;)
[12:53] <Seveas> bettter teach people to use sudo then to set a root password
[12:53] <obontu> is xmms the best mp3 player for ubuntu?
[12:54] <cat> obontu, try totem
[12:54] <Jono{}> whats the diff between su and sudo ? same thing i thought?
[12:54] <cat> it's cool
[12:54] <nige> why seveas?
[12:54] <obontu> hmm
[12:54] <obontu> i dunno
[12:54] <dooglus> opera is as free as internet explorer
[12:54] <Seveas> nige, because the ubuntu way is sudo
[12:54] <dooglus> ie. not at all
[12:54] <selinium> obontu, xmms or BMP but it is a choice thing
[12:54] <nige> that was a sudo :)
[12:54] <obontu> bmp?
[12:54] <Seveas> dooglus, and almost as buggy too :)
[12:54] <obontu> what's bmp?
[12:54] <obontu> beep?
[12:54] <Seveas> obontu, beep-media-player
[12:54] <selinium> obontu, beep-media-player
[12:54] <dooglus> Seveas: didn't you hear?  firefox is more buggy than IE ;)
[12:55] <selinium> Seveas, you're just too quick!
[12:55] <Seveas> dooglus, compare the level of risk of all bugs and IE wins again
[12:55] <Red_Bullet> please help me cedega don't knows started processes in linux i can't start counter-strike with cheatind death and diablo with maphack
[12:55] <selinium> aftertaf, WHat do you want to know... PM?
[12:55] <aftertaf> oki selinium ;)
[12:56] <dooglus> Seveas: "IE wins again"?  surely some mistake!
[12:56] <bzimage> Seveas, ?
[12:56] <oxy> ,,,
[12:56] <obontu> i d/led beep
[12:56] <nige> the better way would be to disable the root account and remove ubuntu user fromthe sudoers list :P
[12:56] <Seveas> dooglus, i mean IE wins the contest fro buggiest browser ;)
[12:56] <obontu> but it won't play mp3s
[12:56] <obontu> do i need to d/l a mp3 codec?
[12:56] <Seveas> obontu: To make xmms or beep-media-player actually play things, change the audio output plugin to eSound
[12:57] <aftertaf> obontu:  check you sound levels and output engine
[12:57] <bzimage> Seveas, most bugs in FF are non critical.. the ones in IE are
[12:57] <bzimage> furthermore.. FW update more frequently (bigfixes)
[12:57] <pinoyskull> u guys got news when the forum will be accessible?
[12:57] <Seveas> bzimage, I know that very well, I hate IE
[12:57] <Seveas> read my line carefully ;)
[12:57] <Seveas> --> i mean IE wins the contest for buggiest browser ;)
[12:57] <bzimage> ooh hehehe
[12:57] <bzimage> going to dast...
[12:57] <bzimage> ;)
[12:58] <bzimage> err
[12:58] <bzimage> fast
[12:58] <obontu> nope
[12:58] <bzimage> my bad
[12:58] <obontu> still won't play
[12:58] <aftertaf> obontu:  what is the error message?
[12:58] <obontu> no error
[12:58] <obontu> just won't play
[12:58] <obontu> and totem say it has no plugin to deal with mp3
[12:59] <Seveas> obontu, up for a little test?
[12:59] <obontu> ok sure
[12:59] <Seveas> obontu, do you have multiverse enabled?
[12:59] <zyga> hello
[01:00] <zyga> could someone tell me how to regenerate /etc/inittab
[01:00] <zyga> I broke mine by accident
[01:00] <obontu> i have no idea what it is
[01:00] <zyga> I'm running from the install cd, chtrooted
[01:00] <nige> anyone got tvtime to work?
[01:00] <aftertaf> is this a bot attack?
[01:00] <Seveas> obontu, paste the file /etc/apt/sources.list on $paste
[01:01] <cat> ?
[01:01] <Seveas> obontu, paste the file /etc/apt/sources.list on $paste
[01:01] <Seveas> dang
[01:01] <supergrover> nige: yep
[01:01] <Seveas> paste.ubuntulinux.nl that is
[01:01] <Seveas> (it should be an aotu-replace in my client)
[01:01] <obontu> what?
[01:01] <Skid> eheh irssi plugin?:)
[01:01] <obontu> say what sevas?
[01:01] <Seveas> obontu, execute this command in a terminal: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.kist
[01:02] <nige> i have a bt878 but it always says no signal
[01:02] <Skid> paste the results from your souces file at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:02] <Seveas> and paste the contents of that file on http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:02] <nige> I have it hoked upto an arial but nothing
[01:02] <obontu> ok just did
[01:02] <nige> :S
[01:02] <obontu> it's empty
[01:02] <Skid> the file?
[01:02] <silasj> obontu tell me about repos
[01:02] <shinu> obontu:  sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:03] <silasj> ops... who is the bot here?
[01:03] <supergrover> nige: dunno. I have a winfast2000 xp or something. Works ok. Different chipset i think .. cs88?
[01:03] <nige> ahh okay
[01:03] <supergrover> cx88
[01:03] <Skid> obontu: on ubuntuguide.org you can find some sources template - but dont use the backports stuff at the bottom
[01:03] <zyga> okay a simple question
[01:03] <obontu> hmm
[01:03] <nige> yits supposed to work and i know the recepition down here if fine
[01:03] <nige> but it dont work :S
[01:03] <bimberi> silasj: ubotu :)
[01:03] <nige> :(
[01:03] <zyga> could anyone *please* post their /etc/inittab anywhere on the net?
[01:03] <shinu> Skid: are backports bad?
[01:03] <supergrover> nige: plenty of info on their website I seem to recall
[01:03] <silasj> bimberi, ah good, thx
[01:03] <obontu> i think i did you the backports
[01:03] <silasj> ubotu tell me about repos
[01:03] <Skid> shinu: no, but check topic regarding the firefox update mate
[01:03] <nige> nothing about no signal though
[01:03] <nige> from what i read
[01:04] <obontu> what do you want me to tell you?
[01:04] <obontu> how?
[01:04] <supergrover> nige: I'd check to see that the correct module is loaded
[01:04] <^AnK^> !ping me
[01:04] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, ^AnK^
[01:04] <zyga> again, could anyone *please* post their /etc/inittab anywhere on the net?
[01:04] <irvin> cat /etc/inittab
[01:04] <Skid> zyga: yep give me a tick
[01:04] <nige> supergrover: how would i do that
[01:05] <zyga> Skid: thanks :-)
[01:05] <obontu> do i need an mp3 codec?
[01:05] <shinu> Skid: where?
[01:05] <supergrover> nige: hehe. lsmod is the command to list the loaded modules. But you need to know what module to look for for your particular chipset.
[01:05] <Skid> zyga: check pm
[01:05] <nige> ahh okay
[01:06] <Seveas> ok, sorry 'bout spontaneous leaving
[01:06] <Seveas> had to restart something :)
[01:06] <Skid> shinu: erm, hold on lemme check me logs
[01:06] <nige> supergrover, I know the chipset is bt878
[01:06] <obontu> do i need to install a mp3 plugin to listen to mp3s?
[01:06] <nige> i got that from dmesg :)
[01:06] <nige> bttv is loaded
[01:06] <Seveas> obontu, still there?
[01:06] <obontu> yes
[01:06] <nige> bt878 is loaded
[01:06] <bimberi> zyga: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2532 (sry Skid, should have said i was doing it)
[01:06] <sexcopter8000m> hello there, is there a channel for OOo queries?
[01:07] <Skid> shinu: pm'd you from my lastlog
[01:07] <zyga> bimberi: thanks
[01:07] <zyga> okay I'm good now
[01:07] <Seveas> obontu, great, did you get sources.list pasted already?
[01:07] <supergrover> nige: ok, thats good. But sadly I dont think I could help more.
[01:07] <shinu> ok i see
[01:07] <obontu> where?
[01:07] <Seveas> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:07] <obontu> ah
[01:07] <obontu> what do i do with it?
[01:08] <nige> thats fine
[01:08] <Seveas> put the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list on that site
[01:08] <nige> i think found something
[01:08] <nige>  my problem
[01:08] <nige> :)_
[01:08] <obontu> what?
[01:08] <nige> bttv0: using:  *** UNKNOWN/GENERIC ***  [card=0,autodetected] 
[01:08] <obontu> i don't get it
[01:08] <obontu> where?
[01:08] <obontu> how?
[01:08] <irvin> how do i create a copy of a folder in Applications menu to the desktop?
[01:08] <shinu> Skid: ah.. my friend had this problem and i had to fix it, though i didnt seem to have anything wrong when upgrading...
[01:09] <Skid> obontu: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:09] <Skid> select all
[01:09] <selinium> Seveas, will deleting all of winetools uninstall it?
[01:09] <Skid> copy to clipboard
[01:09] <Seveas> obontu, ok, then we'll go the absolute-easy-just-follow-the-commans route :)
[01:09] <Skid> then paste in paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:09] <Seveas> obontu, can i talk to you in private?
[01:09] <Skid> shinu: ah, okie
[01:09] <obontu> where is says text?
[01:09] <Skid> just something i caught a glimpse of
[01:09] <jpfarias_> hey, is anyone fixing the x-common-1.0.8 package?
[01:09] <Seveas> jpfarias_, why?
[01:10] <shinu> Skid: but maybe at that time there was something wrong with my backports entries so maybe thats why :P
[01:10] <jpfarias_> Seveas, it is broken since last week
[01:10] <obontu> just did
[01:10] <supergrover> donesn't sound so good. From memory there are certain parameters that determine the card.
[01:10] <jpfarias_> Seveas, it has a file which conflicts with other x packages
[01:10] <Seveas> jpfarias_, upgrade dpkg
[01:10] <Seveas> and it'll work
[01:10] <Skid> shinu: ahh :)
[01:10] <jpfarias_> Seveas, ok, I'll try it
[01:10] <shinu> :P
[01:11] <obontu> yes please sevas
[01:11] <mwdowns> hello. :)
[01:11] <mwdowns> is the ubuntu forums site down?
[01:11] <Seveas> obontu, ok, do this: sudo aptitude install mplayer-586 beep-media-player gstreamer0.8-mad
[01:11] <Seveas> mwdowns, yes
[01:12] <obontu> just did
[01:12] <obontu> hmm i also don't have audio in games, but i do have it in movies
[01:12] <mwdowns> ok, cool...well, not cool that it's down, cool that it's not just me
[01:14] <aftertaf> lol mwdowns :)
[01:14] <mwdowns> got a question about the command line: how can i figure out what version of programs i have installed?  and how can i figure out what versions are availible from apt?
[01:14] <zyga> thanks guys, you've saved a lot of my time and sanity
[01:15] <bimberi> zyga: np :)
[01:15] <Wax> zyga, What was up with your inittab?
[01:15] <zyga> Wax: I'm remastering a kiosk-like distro based on knoppix
[01:16] <zyga> Wax: I accidently installed the inittab in my own /, outside of chroot
[01:16] <mwdowns> by the way...to any developers or folks responsible for breezy that are here...nice job so far...been having a good time with the rc of breezy
[01:16] <bimberi> mwdowns: dpkg -l <package>   <--- gives the installed version
[01:16] <Jono{}> I can't install XMMS .. says W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/glib1.2/libglib1.2_1.2.10-10_i386.deb
[01:16] <Jono{}>   404 Not Found [IP: 82.211.81.151 80] 
[01:16] <Jono{}> Any ideas pls?
[01:16] <Crys_UbuPC>  Hey, does ubuntu need to be started specifically in alsa mode to correctly run the alsa sound drivers?
[01:16] <aftertaf> mwdowns:  and sometimes command --version shows you too
[01:17] <Seveas> Jono{}, sudo apt-get update
[01:17] <zyga> Jono{}: the servers were down recently
[01:17] <Jono{}> ah ok thnx again
[01:17] <mwdowns> cool...thanks bimberi and aftertaf
[01:17] <Crys_UbuPC> Anyone?
[01:18] <erer> tung jam luli
[01:18] <erer> shume haker a
[01:18] <erer> :D
[01:18] <zyga> Crys_UbuPC: no
[01:18] <Seveas> erer, stick to english in here please
[01:18] <zyga> Crys_UbuPC: it should just work
[01:18] <Crys_UbuPC> So I don't need to pass the alsa option to the kernel at boot time?
[01:19] <Crys_UbuPC> Anyone here using an audigy2zs?
[01:19] <zyga> Crys_UbuPC: you shouldn't need to
[01:19] <bimberi> mwdowns: apt-cache show <package> | grep Version will show you the version(s) available for install (can be >1 if it's in >1 repositories)
[01:20] <Crys_UbuPC> I'm gonna check out the forums If anyone knows how to get sound going on an audigy sound card lemme know.
[01:20] <selinium> Seveas, Couldn't find that Skype deb
[01:20] <mwdowns> alright, bimberi.  thanks
[01:20] <shinu> does getting linux-source-2.6.10-2.6.10 mean im downloading the latest kernel's source automatically?
[01:20] <zyga> shinu: no, linux-source is for that
[01:20] <AnkhWeasel> Selinium: http://frankandjacq.com/ubuntuguide/skype_1.2.0.11-1_i386.deb
[01:21] <mwdowns> another question: been having a hard time getting azureus working in breezy...is that cause the apt-cache shows that the version available is for hoary?
[01:21] <shinu> alright
[01:22] <Seveas> selinium, seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/~dennis/skype_1.2.0.17-1_i386.deb
[01:23] <Seveas> AnkhWeasel, that's an old version
[01:23] <Seveas> VERY old even
[01:23] <selinium> Seveas, Cheers
[01:24] <obontu> how do i uinstall deb packages?
[01:24] <bimberi> obontu: sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb
[01:25] <obontu> UNinstall
[01:25] <obontu> my bad
[01:25] <bimberi> obontu: sudo apt-get remove <package>
[01:25] <obontu> thanx
[01:26] <bimberi> obontu: yw :)
[01:26] <shinu> im trying to compile a realtek driver for my wireless card and i get this : Makefile:8: /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build/.config: No such file or directory
[01:26] <shinu> how can i fix it?
[01:27] <Seveas> shinu, apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[01:27] <shinu> i see, thanks Seveas
[01:27] <Skid> i thoink you may have to setup a symlink too, as i had an issue with an awn-8030 once
[01:27] <Skid> that was looking for build, which wasn't there :)
[01:27] <xuniluser> How do I mount a partition with an ID of "OnTrackDM6"
[01:31] <BigMadWolf> hi all ! i have just installed breezy preview on my laptop asus a6va and ubuntu freezes on "starting hotplug subsystem". it doesn't freeze if i unable my soundcard realtek  alc880 (snd-intel-hda) in the bios. Can i use my sound card on breezy ? it worked fine on hoary.
[01:32] <aftertaf> BigMadWolf:  hmmm. report it as a bug. hotplug did same for me but with a usb modem.
[01:33] <Jono{}> why do my mp3s sound crap? :) in XMMS sb live 5.1
[01:33] <selinium> Seveas: it is winging about libqt3-mt is not available, I have libqt3-mt-dev installed.
[01:33] <Seveas> selinium, breezy?
[01:33] <selinium> nope hoary
[01:33] <obontu> how do i delete files?
[01:33] <obontu> in console?
[01:33] <obontu> remove?
[01:33] <shinu> obontu: rm
[01:33] <Seveas> ah, then the real skype one should work
[01:33] <obontu> thanx
[01:34] <shinu> obontu: man rm for more info :)
[01:34] <selinium> Seveas: it doesnt lol.
[01:34] <Seveas> selinium, do me a favor: dpkg -l libqt* > private msg
[01:34] <spola> i have a problem with my printer, it's a canon bjc 4200: when i try to print something it prints like the top 3 pixels and then it stops. what should i try?
[01:35] <BigMadWolf> ok aftertaf this bug is already on bugzilla i saw it yesterday, but i cant acces it today :(
[01:35] <BigMadWolf> thx aftertaf
[01:35] <BigMadWolf> what is Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy Badger) Colony CD 5 ?
[01:35] <Seveas> the last breezy beta
[01:35] <BigMadWolf> i have the preview version
[01:35] <obontu> please help, i can't install win32 codecs
[01:35] <BigMadWolf> what's the difference ?
[01:36] <obontu> i copied them as they are like some webpage suggested
[01:36] <obontu> and now i deleted them all and i'm trying to dpkg the package and it won't let me
[01:37] <BigMadWolf> the last release is colony 5 or preview ? what is the more stable version ?
[01:37] <shinu> obontu: did you run: dpkg -i filename?
[01:37] <obontu> yes
[01:37] <obontu> it wont let me
[01:37] <shinu> ah
[01:37] <shinu> obontu: sudo blablabla :)
[01:37] <obontu> it says
[01:37] <obontu> no not like that
[01:37] <obontu> it's root terminal
[01:38] <shinu> oh
[01:38] <shinu> sorry :P
[01:38] <obontu> dpkg: error processing w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb (--install):
[01:38] <obontu>  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/win32/acelpdec.ax', which is also in package w32codec
[01:38] <obontu> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[01:38] <obontu> Errors were encountered while processing:
[01:38] <obontu>  w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[01:38] <obontu> it's ok
[01:38] <obontu> but i deleted everything in that dir
[01:38] <obontu> it's empty now
[01:38] <obontu> maybe there are some hidden files?
[01:38] <dealt> hi!
[01:38] <cat> hi dealt
[01:38] <dealt> in installing j2sdk in hoary, do i need to setup my $CLASSPATH?
[01:39] <shinu> obontu: try uninstalling w32codec
[01:39] <obontu> how?
[01:39] <cat> sudo apt-get install w32codec
[01:40] <obontu> how can i UNinstall?
[01:40] <aftertaf> --remove
[01:40] <obontu> ?
[01:40] <aftertaf> on end of wat cat said
[01:40] <obontu> apt-remove?
[01:40] <shinu> obontu: apt-get remove w32codec
[01:40] <aftertaf> apt-get --help
[01:40] <obontu> thanx
[01:41] <obontu> ok now i got them installed
[01:41] <obontu> thanx
[01:41] <cat> np
[01:41] <Crys_UbuPC> This is useless. I can't find out what to do.
[01:41] <obontu> but still
[01:41] <obontu> i can't play mp3s
[01:41] <aftertaf> Crys_UbuPC:  whats the pb?
[01:42] <obontu> it says i'm missing a plugin
[01:42] <shinu> obontu: you dont need w32codecs to paly mp3s...
[01:42] <aftertaf> obontu:  try with another player... try with mpg321, see if sound works and your system can handle mp3s
[01:42] <Angel-SL> hi
[01:42] <obontu> nope
[01:42] <shinu> w32codecs is for video i think
[01:42] <obontu> i tried totem
[01:42] <Angel-SL> when i install Ubuntu it doesnt detect the network card
[01:42] <obontu> and bmp
[01:42] <obontu> they don't play
[01:42] <Angel-SL> module
[01:42] <Crys_UbuPC> Audigy 2 zs won't put out sound under linux. DSL doesn' have a problem with it though, and it's using the alsa drivers.
[01:42] <obontu> and i also get no audio in games
[01:43] <obontu> but i can hear audio in movie clips
[01:43] <BigMadWolf> the latest release is colony 5 or preview ? what is the stablest version ?
[01:43] <Angel-SL> but KUbuntu does
[01:43] <aftertaf> obontu:  what software for audio & video do you use?
[01:43] <Crys_UbuPC> aftertaf: That was for you.
[01:43] <obontu> i use totem player for video
[01:43] <aftertaf> Crys_UbuPC:  erf.... wanting to be helpful, but letting you down, sorry...... no idea
[01:43] <obontu> and bmp for audio
[01:44] <aftertaf> can totem read music/mp3?
[01:44] <obontu> nope
[01:44] <aftertaf> installed gstreamer packages?
[01:44] <obontu> but it can play movie audio
[01:44] <shinu> obontu: try xmms
[01:44] <obontu> i did
[01:44] <obontu> it hangs when i try to play mp3s
[01:44] <obontu> and i don't like it
[01:44] <deFrysk> totem can read also mp3 afaIk
[01:44] <obontu> gstreamer?
[01:44] <Crys_UbuPC> aftertaf: I know. The wiki had a couple of okay ideas, but none worked.
[01:44] <aftertaf> you did , what. xmms?    thats an engine pb then
[01:44] <obontu> i think i did
[01:44] <obontu> how do i install it again?
[01:44] <obontu> i'll try
[01:44] <aftertaf> obontu:  kick up synaptic and install gstreamer alsa stuff
[01:45] <obontu> thanx
[01:45] <aftertaf> Crys_UbuPC:  tough one... is it supported ok in alsa?
[01:45] <joetheodd> How can I figure out what distro version I'm running?
[01:45] <shinu> /sbin/wlanctl-ng <== what package should i get to have those commands?
[01:45] <obontu> the green squares are the things i already installed right?
[01:45] <shinu> im trying to run airsnort
[01:46] <ph8> I discovered i hadn't included multiverse etc
[01:46] <aftertaf> obontu:  looool ;) yes:)
[01:46] <ph8> and i've just run my first update
[01:46] <obontu> so i got most of them installed
[01:46] <ph8> it says 'these packages can't be authenticated!'
[01:46] <ph8> big problem?
[01:46] <Crys_UbuPC> aftertaf: Yeah. the alsa autoinstall under damnsmall linux recognizes it first try.
[01:46] <ph8> it also wants to upgrade gcc4, is that likely to break things?
[01:46] <shinu> ph8: nah, i just press 'yes' :P
[01:46] <aftertaf> Crys_UbuPC:  hmmm. what module does it use?
[01:46] <obontu> what do i do? :(
[01:47] <shinu> obontu: http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[01:47] <Angel-SL> joetheodd: gcc --version
[01:47] <aftertaf> obontu:  have you changed output engines on beep?
[01:47] <obontu> to waht?
[01:47] <rob^> !ubuntuguide
[01:47] <ubotu> I guess ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[01:47] <obontu> esound?
[01:47] <rob^> !codecs
[01:47] <ubotu> it has been said that codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[01:48] <shinu> well... i still like ubuntuguide :P
[01:48] <rob^> obontu, use http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats instead of ubuntuguide
[01:48] <shinu> very good for beginners like me...
[01:48] <obontu> thanx
[01:49] <rob^> shinu, you will like the faq guide then, for now don't use ubuntuguide, use the wiki
[01:49] <Crys_UbuPC> aftertaf: I'm not sure what you mean about modules.
[01:49] <shinu> rob^: sure, i try yo use all of them, but ubuntuguide was the first thing i heard about and had quite some usefull things
[01:49] <Seveas> shinu, ubuntuguide is bad, doc.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com are much better
[01:49] <Crys_UbuPC> all the wiki docs say to check a box that I checked.
[01:50] <shinu> doc?
[01:50] <Seveas> shinu, yeah, ubuntuguide has useful things to screw over your system...
[01:50] <aftertaf> Crys_UbuPC:  ok... when a soundcard is used in linux, there is a module for it (like a driver)
[01:50] <rob^> Seveas, doc.u.c is only a place for previews and shouldn't be used by people
[01:50] <shinu> i see
[01:51] <aftertaf> like most things in linux either hardcoded in kernel or compiled asa module and inserted as needed.  DSL will have inserted a module to.....
[01:51] <rob^> Seveas, it will be help.u.c that will contain static bug free (hopefully!) docs
[01:51] <tudor> anyone managed to install the UNICORN driver for the USB adsl modem?
[01:52] <Seveas> rob^, even now d.u.c is more helpful than crappy ubuntuguide :)
[01:52] <Crys_UbuPC> aftertaf: So we're not talking about alsa or oss anymore, are we?
[01:52] <tudor> I tried to compile it but I have errors
[01:53] <Dogtix> apologies if this is an faq atm ... is there a mirror for unbuntuforums? seems to have been down for days
[01:53] <rob^> Seveas, heh yeah, problem is that is sometimes broken as a script pulls the previews out of svn automatically
[01:53] <aftertaf> Crys_UbuPC:  yes, sort of... alsao is part of the kernel now, and it should have kernel modules for all types of sound cards...    DSL will have used one and if you can boot into DSL and type lsmod in console, youmight find the name of it.....    what does lspci tell you about your card?
[01:54] <rob^> Seveas, although we are in string freeze at the moment, so things should be pretty stable there for a while
[01:55] <Crys_UbuPC> What's ispci?
[01:55] <aftertaf> small L ;)
[01:55] <ph8> Seveas: IN your directions for converting .bin java install files to .deb's should I run make-jpkg with fakeroot or as root?
[01:55] <aftertaf> type it in console ;)
[01:55] <Seveas> ph8, make-jpkg will refuse to run when you're root :)
[01:55] <aftertaf> LSPCI   but in small leters.
[01:55] <cat> Crys_UbuPC: u mean lspci
[01:55] <ph8> oh, it said 'you must run as root or use fakeroot' i assumed fakeroot, was just checking
[01:55] <Seveas> and the breezy make-jpkg runs fakeroot automatically, so you can use just 'make-jpkg'
[01:56] <A-star> so what is the latest news aboutthe forums?
[01:56] <aftertaf> brb
[01:56] <Skid> huh
[01:56] <Skid> whats up with the forums?
[01:56] <ph8> Unpacking sun-j2sdk1.5 (from sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0+update05_i386.deb)
[01:56] <ph8> reckon i'll still need to install something so firefox can run java applets?
[01:56] <Dogtix> servers are down, have been for the past couple days
[01:56] <ph8> if this is a/the development environment
[01:56] <Dogtix> s/down/unreliable/
[01:57] <Red_Bullet> how to start win4lin
[01:57] <Red_Bullet> ?
[01:57] <shinu> gotta run, thanks a lot for the help! :)
[01:58] <henk> I'm not too happy with printing under linux. it looks crappy. I was wondering if there was a way to share the printer connected onto the linux box to the windows network so that i could print directly to that printer from windows (using the propietary driver installed on the windows box) does samba enable me to do that? or does printing still go though cups that way ?
[01:58] <A-star> it's a shame they are down, really mis them :(
[01:58] <Crys_UbuPC> 0000:00:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 04)
[01:58] <Crys_UbuPC> 0000:00:0a.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy MIDI/Game port (re                  v 04)
[01:58] <Crys_UbuPC> 0000:00:0a.2 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Creative Labs SB Audigy FireWire Port (rev 04                  )
[01:58] <Crys_UbuPC> Whops, sorry.
[01:59] <Crys_UbuPC> I thought that would only be one line.
[01:59] <Skid> hm, i wonder how much bandwidth the forums use
[02:00] <Skid> actually, i wonder how to become a mirror
[02:02] <Crys_UbuPC> aftertaf: I put it into the window for when you are ready to look at it.
[02:03] <henk> what are these colonies ?
[02:03] <CaiN_SA> lol
[02:03] <CaiN_SA> their are basicly release candidates
[02:03] <henk> hmm funny naming scheme
[02:04] <onkarshinde> !w32codecs
[02:04] <ubotu> w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hory), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy). 64-bit? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[02:05] <cat> hey how can i subcribe to the ubuntu mail list?
[02:05] <cat> *subscribe
[02:05] <A-star> q
[02:05] <rob^> cat, lists.ubuntu.com
[02:07] <rob^> wow w32codecs is icky icky poo
[02:07] <boxerboy29> cat: go to ubuntu.com and sign up (its either com or org i cant remember)
[02:07] <Seveas> rob^, it sure is :)
[02:07] <stagger> hi! i'm using gentoo and am interested in one of your acpi scripts. could someone please nopaste ( http://rafb.net/paste ) the /etc/acpi/ script for the laptop lid?
[02:08] <stagger> i'd very much appreciate that
[02:08] <supergrover> can anyone tell me why unofficial backports thrived but when it became official it withered away?
[02:09] <onkarshinde> What all formats are supported by w32codecs?
[02:09] <rob^> supergrover, because most people only used it for legally dodgy things like w32codecs
[02:09] <rob^> and the maintainers seem to have lost intrest
[02:09] <rob^> and breezy is about to be released
[02:09] <supergrover> rob^: but it seperated into extras and backports
[02:10] <supergrover> rob^: breezy, yes, one good reason.
[02:10] <rob^> breezy makes all the backports pretty useless
[02:10] <rob^> there will be a breezy backports if they find the time after release though
[02:10] <rob^> s/time/motivation
[02:10] <supergrover> rob^: true. But will it get healthy again? Some official people seem to be down on it. It seems.
[02:11] <ompaul> stagger, #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:11] <stagger> you should even be able to do "grep -R chvt /etc/acpi/" to find the right file.
[02:11] <stagger> ompaul: ok
[02:11] <rob^> supergrover, only time will tell I guess
[02:11] <Seveas> stagger, the lid script does a chvt 12 on lid close :)
[02:11] <Dogtix> cat, does it have a section on s/w raid? ;)
[02:12] <cat> yes it does
[02:12] <Seveas> stagger, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2535
[02:12] <Crys_UbuPC> aftertaf: You still there?
[02:12] <twibbler> has anybody installed skype under breezy ... having an install error with a no longer supported lib module .
[02:12] <aftertaf> yep.... Crys_UbuPC
[02:12] <onkarshinde> DO i need to reconfigure xorg after adding an AGP card to my system. Or will Ubuntu do it automaticlly at next boot?
[02:12] <Dogtix> any recommended settings for 'today' sized arrays? (like 4x320G)
[02:12] <stagger> Seveas: thanks a lot!
[02:12] <cat> twibbler: Seveas has the packaged
[02:12] <cat> ask him for the packaged
[02:12] <aftertaf> twibbler:  ^^^^
[02:12] <tudor> twibbler: skype works on my breezy
[02:12] <Crys_UbuPC> Did you get that printout you asked for you?
[02:12] <rob^> twibbler, does this work: http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/ch03s06.html#id3154526
[02:13] <aftertaf> Crys_UbuPC:  nope.... /msg me it
[02:13] <cat> damn rob^ you'r good
[02:13] <cat> =)
[02:13] <rob^> heh thanks
[02:13] <twibbler> looks like a known problem ..... hehehehehehehe
[02:13] <cat> rob^: bob2?
[02:13] <rob^> cat, no
[02:13] <bob2> ?
[02:13] <cat> oh ic
[02:14] <cat> rob weir =)
[02:14] <rob^> I maintain that doc I gave twibbler a link to
[02:14] <cat> oh nice,
[02:14] <Seveas> stagger, http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/~dennis/acpi.tar <-- complete /etc/acpi and /usr/share/acpi-support
[02:14] <onkarshinde> bob2: rob^: Can you please answer my question?
[02:14] <stagger> Seveas: :d
[02:14] <stagger> Seveas: :D
[02:14] <twibbler> rob^: just downloading and installing now .....
[02:14] <rob^> twibbler, great
[02:15] <cat> damn sid was acting out yesterday
[02:15] <bob2> onkarshinde: no
[02:15] <bob2> also, yes
[02:15] <Seveas> rob^, ewwwww
[02:15] <onkarshinde> Can anyone else answer this. Do i need to reconfigure xorg after adding an AGP card to my system. Or will Ubuntu do it automaticlly at next boot?
[02:15] <Crys_UbuPC> will linux automatically detect and use a graphics card?
[02:15] <Seveas> that faq entry downloads a bad version of skype
[02:15] <onkarshinde> bob2: What do you mean?
[02:15] <rob^> Seveas, grr it used to work
[02:15] <Seveas> rob^, change that url to the official one please
[02:15] <cat> onkarshinde: it will automaticly at next boot
[02:15] <rob^> Seveas, what is it?
[02:16] <onkarshinde> cat:Thanks
[02:16] <Seveas> it's set to franlnjacq.com somethimg
[02:16] <twibbler> Seveas: where do I download from ?.........
[02:16] <Crys_UbuPC> Like use the gpu and the  memory?
[02:16] <stagger> bye
[02:16] <aftertaf> Crys_UbuPC:  depends on the card and if drivers are installed.
[02:16] <Seveas> twibbler, hoary or breezy?
[02:17] <twibbler> Seveas: Breezy
[02:17] <boxerboy29> seveas: that is the same site that the guide is on now too
[02:17] <niksie> Hi all, I'm a debian user, and a company I do consulting for occasionally wants to set up a ubuntu server, I'm rather unfamiliar with Ubuntu, and am wondering if it makes a good choice for a server..
[02:17] <onkarshinde> aftertaf: What if card is ATI Radeon 7000
[02:17] <aftertaf> NiklasH_work:  yes... :)
[02:17] <Seveas> twibbler, seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/~dennis/skype_1.2.0.17-1_i386.deb
[02:17] <rob^> http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-deb
[02:17] <Seveas> boxerboy29, ubuntuguide sucks. especially because of this kinf of crud
[02:18] <aftertaf> Crys_UbuPC:  onkarshinde:  dunno..... itll work but you'll need to change xorg.conf file and check that driversa re installed
[02:18] <boxerboy29> i understand but some ppl swear by it others cant stand it and i only use it for the multi souces
[02:18] <twibbler> rob^: thats the link I had the problems with ....
[02:18] <Crys_UbuPC> I don't know how to do that, but I'm going to bed.
[02:19] <Crys_UbuPC> I'll see you all later.
[02:19] <rob^> aww get buggered..
[02:19] <rob^> it was working before string freeze :(
[02:19] <Crys_UbuPC> Still with no sound. I'm gonna reboot into windows and fall asleep listening to music.
[02:19] <Seveas> boxerboy29, especially the sources are crud too
[02:19] <Crys_UbuPC> cya.
[02:19] <Seveas> backports are excellent in screwing over your system
[02:19] <aftertaf> hehe
[02:19] <Seveas> and -extras is alwyays out of date
[02:20] <boxerboy29> i got rid of the backports
[02:20] <twibbler> rob^ requires libqt3c102-mt on breezy libqt3-mt ....
[02:20] <niksie> Is Ubuntu meant for servers at all, or is it a mostly workstation distro?
[02:20] <hypn0> is usb support a work in progress, i need to get an asdl modem, and judging from webcam, it doesnt look too stable, so probaly work work well with usb :-/
[02:20] <cat> niksie: servers also
[02:20] <Seveas> niksie, ubuntu works fine on servers
[02:20] <hypn0> wont*
[02:20] <aftertaf> niksie:  base install is for servers...... it can do what you want otherwise
[02:20] <cat> ubuntu is the best ever,
[02:21] <cat> really nice
[02:21] <twibbler> niksie: we have ubuntu samba server running.. very nice ....
[02:21] <aftertaf> hypn0:  usb is sort of stable.... whats the trouble?
[02:21] <boxerboy29> im just waiting for the menu guide for breezy
[02:21] <cat> hypn0: so hotplug is acting out?
[02:21] <rob^> menu guide?
[02:21] <twibbler> thank you all skype now installed ........
[02:21] <niksie> I was thinking I might set up a ubuntu server, and leave it to some other guys to maintain it, since its maintenance is supposed to be simpler than debian..
[02:22] <hypn0> aftertaf, video sometimes works sometime doesnt :-) i'm not too bothered, cause next version will fix it hopefully
[02:22] <hypn0> seems to be related to wether webcam is connected at startup :-)
[02:23] <cat> hypn0: damn
[02:23] <cat> so when the usb act out do /etc/init.d/hotplug restart;
[02:23] <jez> Ubuntu live doesn't come with gcc?! argh...
[02:24] <dealt> hi, i followed the j2sdk installation guide on sun's site. but when i ran a java program, im having a 'Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: test/hello' error
[02:24] <hypn0> ok, will try that cat
[02:24] <aftertaf> hotplug gonna be deprecated soon anyway iirc
[02:24] <cat> hmmm
[02:25] <rob^> !java
[02:25] <ubotu> I guess java is to install Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:26] <cat> !iloveubuntu (:
[02:26] <ubotu> cat: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[02:26] <deFrysk> :D
[02:26] <jez> 'whereis gcc
[02:26] <jez> gcc: '
[02:26] <jez> :-(
[02:26] <cat> jez: do sudo apt-get install gcc
[02:26] <aftertaf> !info gcc
[02:26] <ubotu> gcc: (The GNU C compiler), section devel, is standard. Version: 4:3.3.5-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 4 kB, Installed size: 64 kB
[02:27] <dealt> i do have both j2re and j2sdk
[02:27] <ompaul> jez, apt-get install buildessentials
[02:27] <jez> amazing that you should have to do that...
[02:27] <cat> (:
[02:27] <jez> E: Couldn't find package buildessentials
[02:27] <cat> jez:  apt-get install gcc
[02:27] <cat> that's it
[02:27] <ompaul> no
[02:27] <ompaul> jez, apt-get install build-essentials
[02:27] <cat> what do you mean no
[02:27] <ompaul> heh
[02:28] <Seveas> build-essential
[02:28] <Seveas> not essentials
[02:28] <ompaul> doh
[02:28] <Skid> heh
[02:28] <ompaul> Seveas, kick me
[02:28] <Skid> :)
[02:28] <deFrysk> hehe
[02:28] <cat> lol
[02:28] <aftertaf> ompaul:  run the brain script again dude
[02:29] <Seveas> wb :)
[02:29] <ompaul> thanks :)
[02:29] <cat> damn dash is really good
[02:29] <ompaul> aftertaf, thats what it was
[02:29] <twibbler> just a comment... Is breezy really this much beter than hoary ....
[02:29] <jpfarias_> how do I install python-pylib?
[02:29] <cat> jpfarias_: apt-get install
[02:30] <aftertaf> twibbler:  oh yeah baby :)
[02:30] <jpfarias_> cat: it gives an error
[02:30] <aftertaf> jpfarias_:  sudo apt-get install
[02:30] <boxerboy29> breezy mainly is more up to date
[02:30] <cat> what error?
[02:30] <ompaul> twibbler, that is a question, it is better, and I like it more, would you notice, maybe, can you afford it not work for you? if not stick with hoary
[02:30] <ompaul> sudo is missing
[02:30] <twibbler> aftertaf: I am really impressed now it is all running ....
[02:30] <jpfarias_> cat: it tries to compile a .py file it should not
[02:31] <twibbler> ompaul: sorry ... I write software I cant phrase english ....
[02:31] <cat> interesting
[02:31] <jpfarias_> cat: it is a buggy .py file, which is part of the examples of py.test
[02:31] <cat> jpfarias_: don't know dude
[02:31] <ompaul> the command is :sudo apt-get install python-pylib
[02:32] <jpfarias_> ompaul, it doesn't works
[02:32] <aftertaf> and kde 3.5 is swish like a curtain rail
[02:32] <jpfarias_> ompaul, as I said to cat, it tries to compile a .py file it should not compile
[02:32] <aftertaf> funky cold medina pager 'n' all
[02:32] <cat> gnome sucks
[02:32] <ompaul> jpfarias_, what error does it give?
[02:32] <rob^> troll
[02:33] <Seveas> cat, this is not the place fro gnome-kde wars
[02:33] <cat> the home trash icons doesn't appear on gnome
[02:33] <twibbler> cat: gnome rocks (or at least it will when I have copied the Led Zep over from laptop)...
[02:33] <cat> that's why mr Seveas
[02:33] <jpfarias_> ompaul, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2536
[02:33] <cat> i think you'r really helpfull Seveas keep it up dude
[02:34] <Seveas> cat trash: bottom right corner   home: places -> home
[02:34] <xuniluser> my acrobat reader wont work....
[02:34] <cat> yeah saw it
[02:34] <ompaul> jpfarias_, that error comes from   python2.4-pylib
[02:34] <xuniluser> i just apt-get install acroread
[02:34] <Seveas> much nicer then taking space on the desktop :)
[02:34] <cat> yeah
[02:35] <jpfarias_> ompaul, yep, python-pylib is a dummy package
[02:35] <jpfarias_> ompaul, it just installs the correct version for the corresponding python version
[02:36] <jpfarias_> ompaul, in my case, python2.4-pylib
[02:36] <ompaul> jpfarias_, I got the same error (in english) [when I tried to install it]  and states that the file it tries to run is not python - time to get a python coder to fix it perhaps :)  [me not one] 
[02:37] <jpfarias_> ompaul, that's not the problem
[02:37] <ompaul> jpfarias_, ok
[02:37] <jpfarias_> ompaul, that file is really not a python code
[02:37] <jpfarias_> ompaul, it is an example to show how the py.test works on non valid .py programs
[02:38] <ompaul> jpfarias_, reading the detail now
[02:39] <cat> hey if i forget my username password what can i do?
[02:39] <Seveas> reinstall?
[02:39] <Seveas> or reboot into recovery mode :)
[02:39] <jpfarias_> cat, you can boot with ubuntu CD
[02:39] <aftertaf> too fast!!!
[02:39] <jpfarias_> cat: open a shell
[02:39] <jpfarias_> cat: and chroot into your environment
[02:39] <dooglus> heh
[02:40] <ompaul> cat, reboot, press escape, type "passwd username" reboot
[02:40] <Seveas> jpfarias_, that's what rescue mode is for
[02:40] <Seveas> no need for fiddling with chroot
[02:40] <jpfarias_> Seveas, hehe, I did not know the rescue mode....
[02:41] <jpfarias_> Seveas, my ubuntu never failed me ;-)
[02:41] <Seveas> :)
[02:41] <Whistler> hello
[02:41] <AnkhWeasel> Heh, manual upgrade to 5.10 turned out a bit messy for me. ;)
[02:41] <Whistler> AnkhWeasel i reccomend you to do a fresh install
[02:42] <selinium> Cheers, Seaveas, all installed now!
[02:42] <Whistler> i had few bugs with update from hoary
[02:42] <AnkhWeasel> Help and About? :P
[02:42] <ompaul> jpfarias_, are you running breezy? did you update this morning?
[02:42] <selinium> Cheers, Seveas, all installed now!
[02:42] <jpfarias_> Seveas, do you know if it is possible to install a python package without compiling .py file to .pyc
[02:42] <AnkhWeasel> I checked about to see if it showed the new version...messy. ;)
[02:42] <jpfarias_> ompaul, yep
[02:42] <ompaul> jpfarias_, I wonder if it broke it
[02:42] <Seveas> Whistler, neh, even failed dist-upgrades can be solved
[02:42] <Seveas> AnkhWeasel, what's the status now?
[02:43] <jpfarias_> ompaul, I dunno, just tried to install it today
[02:43] <ompaul> jpfarias_, I have to go for a couple of hours biab
[02:44] <Whistler> Seveas i know but i did a fresh install and i am happy :)
[02:44] <catfox> how hard do you think it would be to rebuild an ubuntu install cd, but remove a load of apps, and add some?
[02:45] <Seveas> hard, given that the process is not well-documented
[02:45] <catfox> hmm
[02:45] <aftertaf> hehe
[02:46] <henk> if i use samba to share my lpt printer. And i print from windows connected to the same network. does printing go directly using the drivers installed on windows or does cups capture this and do the printjob with linux drivers ?
[02:46] <AnkhWeasel> Seveas - this all happened 'cause I wanted J2SE in Firefox. :P
[02:47] <AnkhWeasel> That, and 'cause I'm a newbie at this game.
[02:47] <AnkhWeasel> Essentially, the repository at ubuntuguide couldn't be found, nothing I downloaded from the Sun site helped, and someone who, sadly, I can't remember the name of in IRC mentioned that it worked fine for them "out of the box" in 5.10.
[02:48] <BlueEagle> How many hours before GMT is EST?
[02:48] <havoc> 5?
[02:48] <xTina> BlueEagle: 5
[02:49] <xTina> catfox: what are you trying to accomplish?
[02:51] <nerdy2> Blue-Box, it's still EDT though
[02:52] <jez> WTF is this about
[02:52] <jez> "configure: error: *** libparted >= 1.6.0 development files not installed.
[02:52] <jez> Please install first (e.g. run "apt-get install parted-devel" on Ark Linux) ***
[02:52] <jez> parted-devel isn't found
[02:52] <jez> :-(((
[02:52] <boxerboy29> jez: you using ark linux?
[02:52] <jez> no
[02:52] <jez> Ubuntu
[02:53] <nerdy2> run apt-get install libparted1.6-dev
[02:53] <nerdy2> for breezy
[02:53] <jez> hmm, seems to work
[02:53] <jez> not documented thoguh
[02:54] <wael> hi
[02:54] <twibbler> ? ... what is a good video player ... to play mpegs .... as totem keeps crashing ...
[02:54] <henk> twibbler, i use mplayer
[02:54] <wael> mplayer
[02:54] <deFrysk> twibbler, try totem-xine
[02:54] <havoc> mplayer and xine are the two good ones
[02:54] <alisher> Seveas: I just have seen your testing repository, have a question
[02:54] <twibbler> thank you .... both ...
[02:54] <nygma> having a small problem, my screen just goes white while surfing using firefox often (i'm on hoary)...any idea why ?
[02:55] <wael> i have an installation question for ubuntu 5.04 (x86-32 bits)
[02:55] <Seveas> alisher, ask away
[02:55] <henk> btw if i install ubuntu and want to get KDE instead of gnome whould that replace gnome? or whould i end up with a situation that lets me choose between to two ?
[02:55] <alisher> ubuntu-multimedia-gnome
[02:56] <havoc> henk: you can choose
[02:56] <alisher> will it work, I thought w32codecs disappeared from repositories
[02:56] <boxerboy29> kubuntu is kde version of ubuntu
[02:56] <Seveas> alisher, only if you have a repository with w32codecs enabled
[02:56] <boxerboy29> u can get kubuntu desktop from synaptic
[02:56] <alisher> aha, I think marillat is the only one has it so far?
[02:56] <havoc> for 5.10 preview KDE is in main
[02:56] <Skid> kde is the darkside !
[02:57] <havoc> KDE is for people who want to use KDE
[02:57] <havoc> period
[02:57] <Seveas> alisher, there are a few others
[02:57] <havoc> is KDE not in main for hoary?
[02:57] <Seveas> it is
[02:58] <alisher> and you mentioned authentication
[02:58] <wael> when i try to install ubuntu, i can get to the base system install phase but then the cd keeps spinning and no progress in installtion, the cd is ok (pressed cd coz i used it to install ubuntu on another cd and it went fine)
[02:58] <boxerboy29> i wont use kde on ubuntu i have madriva 2006 and fc4 if i want kde
[02:58] <AnkhWeasel> Has anyone here been able to install JRE for Firefox lately? I'll stop bugging people about this after now. :/
[02:58] <Seveas> KDE has been in main since early in the hoary development cycle
[02:58] <Seveas> AnkhWeasel, sure, just get a deb
[02:58] <havoc> Seveas: cool, I was just curious
[02:58] <henk> havoc, well i haven't desided yet. So if i grab the installer from the 'colony 5' for ubuntu i can install kde as well? try them out both
[02:58] <havoc> Seveas: it doesn't really matter now
[02:59] <havoc> henk: I'd guess so
[02:59] <henk> havoc, nice
[02:59] <havoc> henk: I just installed the breezy preview and KDE
[02:59] <boxerboy29> i installed colony 3 and hoping that with the normal updates im up to colony 5
[03:00] <alisher> Seveas: the link to the Skype package you gave today seems not to work, is it still there
[03:01] <alisher> The requested URL /~skype/skype_1.2.0.17-1_i386.deb was not found on this server
[03:01] <Seveas> that's correct, the url was never like that :)
[03:02] <wael> couldn't be that my Benq CD writer isn't compatible to install ubuntu from it?
[03:02] <alisher> the url i pasted was: seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/~skype/skype_1.2.0.17-1_i386.deb
[03:02] <Seveas> ~dennis
[03:05] <boxerboy29> skype=voice over chat program?
[03:05] <AnkhWeasel> Pretty much, yeah.
[03:06] <AnkhWeasel> Ah, I'll try this some other time...Thanks for the help, Seveas.
[03:06] <dazjorz> hellloo :)
[03:06] <brrrt> does anyone know when ubutuforums.org will be back up agaiin?
[03:06] <boxerboy29> ty ive heard alot of ppl wanting it just never understood what it was
[03:06] <boxerboy29> brrrt: are you using breezy?
[03:06] <brrrt> no
[03:06] <hutgyrr> ive just downloaded BitchX as a tar.gz file. How do I install this?
[03:06] <brrrt> why?
[03:07] <boxerboy29> breezy is adding a guide to menu
[03:07] <Seveas> hutgyrr, you throw it away
[03:07] <Skid> tar zxvf bitchx-filename.tar.gz
[03:07] <Skid> then read the install file
[03:07] <Skid> :)
[03:07] <Seveas> hutgyrr, and you do apt-get install bitchx
[03:07] <dazjorz> hutgyrr: BirtchX ? Usually with .tar.gz files, you unpack, then use some commands, or use the manual...
[03:07] <nightswim> and then you start it up
[03:07] <nightswim> then you quit it and install irssi
[03:07] <dazjorz> heh
[03:07] <boxerboy29> isnt bitch-x in synaptic?
[03:07] <Skid> nightswim: lol you tookthe words out my mouth
[03:07] <Seveas> boxerboy29, it is
[03:07] <dazjorz> Seveas: did you unban me ?
[03:08] <Seveas> no
[03:08] <dazjorz> Seveas: who did ?
[03:08] <boxerboy29> this may sound stupid but if there why download it?
[03:08] <Seveas> dunno
[03:08] <dazjorz> k
[03:08] <Seveas> boxerboy29, maybe hutgyrr does not yet know the power of apt :)
[03:08] <boxerboy29> seveas could be true
[03:08] <Skid> boxerboy29: heh not everyone uses packages (or dists that support package mangement, i.e. apt) - so they install from the source
[03:09] <Skid> orrrr, their uber geeks ;)
[03:09] <hutgyrr> Seveas, I do but the bitchx package is unavailable
[03:09] <catfox> xTina, (sorry for the delay) - i want a custom installer to have a distro with zope + plone + a python ide out of the box
[03:09] <Seveas> hutgyrr, you might need to enable universe
[03:09] <Seveas> !tell hutgyrr about sources
[03:09] <boxerboy29> im still mad as hell at bitch-x anyway
[03:09] <wael> sorry to nag abt it but it drives me crazy,when i try to install ubuntu, i can get to the base system install phase but then the cd keeps spinning and no progress in installtion, the cd is ok (it is a pressed cd coz and i used it to install ubuntu on another pc and it went fine)
[03:10] <ph8> Seveas: Do you mind if I pm quickly?
[03:10] <Seveas> wael, maybe the drive is dirty?
[03:10] <Seveas> ph8, not at all
[03:10] <ph8> ty
[03:12] <wael> seveas, i used live cd and it booted fine, the drive is clean, the cd also.. it is a benq cdrw writer, could be incompatible with ubuntu?
[03:12] <boxerboy29> wael: did you try another pressed cd?
[03:12] <wael> boxerboy29 yes i tried 3 already !
[03:13] <wael> they worked fine with my other pc and laptop
[03:13] <boxerboy29> wael i oreded 10 tried 4 till i found a good one :(
[03:15] <azathoth> hey folks. i'm using a cruddy old geforce 256 (an elsa synergy force) which ubuntu recognises but refuses to push the resolution above 1024x768. it has 32mb ram and i run it in 1280x1024 in winxo perfectly.
[03:16] <wael> Oops, something new came up now when trying to install: Unable to load some Modules The unavailable modules are ide-mod (Linix IDE driver), ide-probe-mod (Linux IDE probe driver), ide-detect (Linux IDE detector), ide-floppy (linux IDE floppy)? hmmm this is new
[03:16] <azathoth> i swiped an rpm of the linux drivers and used alien to make it a deb one. i then install it, but how do i change drivers to the proper one?
[03:16] <azathoth> i want to get my res up :)
[03:17] <mirak> I am looking for a good webmail
[03:17] <mirak> I use squirrelmail usually, but it's broken
[03:17] <wael> mirak try horde
[03:18] <mirak> wael I know that one too, but it's too heavy
[03:19] <boxerboy29> try thunderbird
[03:19] <mirak> it's not a webmail
[03:19] <juniper05> im trying to mount a windows share called temp storage. This is the command im issuing mount -t smbfs //192.168.0.230/temp storage/ -o username=etcetc
[03:20] <aftertaf> azathoth:  wont nvidia legacy do it?
[03:20] <Strog> juniper05: There's a space in the name?
[03:20] <juniper05> it wont work though, ive also tried /temp\ storage/
[03:20] <Strog> k
[03:20] <boxerboy29> isnt squirrelmail the same as thunderbird or kmail wher eits used to check you email accounts?
[03:20] <Strog> what error do you get, juniper05 ?
[03:20] <juniper05> hold on
[03:20] <azathoth> aftertaf: yeah, i was chatting to a buddy of mine and i think we got it fixed now...
[03:21] <azathoth> thanks though
[03:21] <wael> mirak neomail maybe neomail
[03:21] <obontu> i can't play mp3s
[03:21] <obontu> can someone help please?
[03:21] <Strog> boxerboy29: squirrelmail is webbased and the others are local clients
[03:21] <alisher> Seveas: could you pls give me a correct url to your Skype package
[03:21] <boxerboy29> oh oko
[03:21] <obontu> and i think i got it all installed
[03:22] <aftertaf> obontu:  well done ;)
[03:22] <aftertaf> erf i didnt read all sorry :)
[03:22] <aftertaf> obontu:  did you try a command like mp3 player like mpg123?
[03:22] <obontu> no
[03:22] <juniper05> its saying 8442: tree connect failed: ERRDOS - ERRnosuchshare (You specified an invalid share name)
[03:22] <juniper05> SMB connection failed
[03:22] <juniper05> when i use /temp\ storage/
[03:22] <havoc> juniper05: try quoting it
[03:23] <havoc> juniper05: it can't find the share at that machine
[03:23] <chrissturm> hmm, gnome panel eats all my cpu. anyone else seeing that?
[03:23] <obontu> where can i find mpg123?
[03:23] <elkbuntu> so does anyone know what's up with the repositories and the forums?
[03:24] <Seveas> alindeman, I just moved it, my repository update script is still running
[03:24] <Seveas> elkbuntu, forums -> maintenance
[03:24] <elkbuntu> ah
[03:24] <havoc> juniper05: you can also try adding debug=2 after the username arg
[03:24] <juniper05> double quotes or single?
[03:24] <Seveas> repositiries -> are fine
[03:24] <havoc> juniper05: double, "
[03:24] <elkbuntu> i had to change repos to ftp to work yesterday
[03:25] <aftertaf> obontu:  apt-get ;)
[03:25] <havoc> juniper05: mount -t smbfs "//192.168.0.230/temp storage/" -o username=etcetc//192.168.0.230/temp storage/ -o username=etcetc,debug=2
[03:25] <toran> is it just me, or is the universe/multiverse arthive.ubuntu.com repo down?
[03:25] <toran> I can't seem to update to it
[03:25] <alisher> toran: arthive?
[03:25] <Seveas> it's just you :)
[03:25] <obontu> it says
[03:25] <toran> *archive
[03:25] <obontu> Can't find a suitable libao driver.
[03:25] <elkbuntu> toran have you tried changing the repos to ftp rather than http?
[03:25] <toran> ><
[03:25] <toran> hmm, I'll try that
[03:25] <elkbuntu> if one doesnt work the other might
[03:26] <Seveas> htto works fine too
[03:26] <alisher> they were down a day ago or so, now they are fine
[03:26] <Seveas> http even :)
[03:26] <juniper05> why have you username and share address specified twice
[03:26] <elkbuntu> it cant hurt for him to try at least
[03:26] <havoc> juniper05: bad paste
[03:26] <aftertaf> obontu:  msg me the ful error
[03:26] <juniper05> ok
[03:26] <chrissturm> seveas: the ips resolve to different hosts for different people. yesteday the at mirror was down, changing it to de worked
[03:26] <havoc> juniper05: you also need to specify where to mount it
[03:27] <Seveas> alisher, http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[03:27] <toran> when I do apt-get update, it says "waiting for headers", and doesn't do anything after getting a bunch of my stuff
[03:27] <alisher> Seveas: thk you
[03:27] <Seveas> in breezy-extras
[03:27] <elkbuntu> seveas when do they expect the forums back up?
[03:27] <aftertaf> toran:  have you changed your sources.llist?
[03:27] <toran> some
[03:27] <toran> it was working
[03:27] <havoc> ok, time for meeting, bbl
[03:27] <toran> but then it stopped
[03:28] <juniper05> damn, thats not working
[03:28] <toran> http://pastebin.com/374609 <----- that is my sources.list
[03:29] <aftertaf> toran:  looking
[03:29] <deFrysk> silly backports again
[03:30] <juniper05> if there windows shares should I specify the backslash rather than forward slash?
[03:30] <toran> I got it working
[03:30] <toran> I changed some addresses to different mirrors
[03:32] <aftertaf> what is the command to test the soundcard? asound -r or sth lmike that... the system returns wat soundcard you have installed....
[03:32] <[koji] > help problems with updating firefox i have no browser right now
[03:33] <elkbuntu> download Opera!
[03:33] <WebLOCH> aftertaf, aplay -l
[03:33] <aftertaf> [koji] :  you have nautilus, konqueror epiphany, lynx.....
[03:33] <aftertaf> hehe cheers :)
[03:33] <aftertaf> asound -r. d'uhhhhhh
[03:33] <WebLOCH> haha
[03:34] <[koji] > anyone encountered issues with current firefox update?
[03:34] <WebLOCH> aftertaf, you having trouble?
[03:34] <elkbuntu> the ubuntu firefox stuff never wants to update for me
[03:34] <alisher> in hoary?
[03:34] <trans_err> I'm updating to breezy but getting bzip errors when I apt-get update
[03:34] <[koji] > i did update but never completed with errors now firefox install is hose
[03:35] <aftertaf> hehe not me..... but having trouble thinkning, yes!
[03:35] <trans_err> anyone else having the same problem?
[03:35] <aftertaf> try apt-get -f install
[03:35] <alisher> which error did you get? cannot be upgraded, use smart-upgrade?
[03:35] <elkbuntu> if you were asking me alisher, yes, hoary
[03:35] <WebLOCH> trans_err, ive bene in here a few days now, no-one has complained of that
[03:36] <trans_err> hrm
[03:36] <[koji] > alisher: may need to paste it here
[03:36] <boxerboy29> i keep hearing about smart update what is it and where do i find it?
[03:36] <WebLOCH> elkbuntu, a few people have complained about the firefox updates, make sure you have all the repos added and if all else fails, install from a binary
[03:36] <rob^> whats the error firefox is giving you?
[03:36] <alisher> i had it with hoary
[03:36] <[koji] > Preparing to replace mozilla-firefox 1.0.6-1ubuntu1~5.04ubp1 (using .../mozilla-firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb) ...
[03:36] <[koji] > Unpacking replacement mozilla-firefox ...
[03:36] <[koji] > dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb (--unpack):
[03:36] <[koji] >  trying to overwrite `/var/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions.d/00classic', which is also in package firefox
[03:36] <[koji] > dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[03:36] <elkbuntu> webloch, ive got the repos listed on the ubuntuguides site
[03:36] <alisher> i just removed firefox and installed again
[03:36] <[koji] > sorry for the flood
[03:37] <WebLOCH> elkbuntu, pastebin it for me so i can compare to mine
[03:37] <alisher> i had the same error
[03:37] <rob^> [koji] , remove the unofficial backports from your sources.list
[03:37] <alisher> but after removing/reinstalling was fine
[03:37] <elkbuntu> remind me of the path please? i usually edit thru synaptic, less ways to stuff it up
[03:38] <rob^> [koji] , then remove firefox using apt-get, then install it again
[03:38] <aftertaf> /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:38] <WebLOCH> /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:38] <WebLOCH> ty lol
[03:38] <rob^> yep
[03:39] <WebLOCH> [koki]   i believe "dpkg clean" will attempt to kill all the Debs you have cached, which may help also
[03:39] <alisher> also i think i fixed this with firefox by opening synaptic and choosing fix brocken packages
[03:39] <WebLOCH> [koji] ,  i believe "dpkg clean" will attempt to kill all the Debs you have cached, which may help also
[03:39] <alisher> and then apply
[03:39] <rob^> the problem is that the unofficial backports breaks systems
[03:39] <rob^> that is just one of the minor problems with it
[03:39] <nadroj> if i apt-got gaim would there be a /src directory in the gaim folder?
[03:40] <[koji] > removing firefox removes plenty of dependencies im afraid
[03:40] <AnkhWeasel> "fakeroot make-jpkg --full-name "<Your name>" --email "<Your email>" jdk-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.bin" - Why would it want my full name and email?
[03:40] <aftertaf> nadroj:  apt-source
[03:40] <elkbuntu> i think ive got a few others than the guides, cant remember ... http://pastebin.com/374617
[03:40] <rob^> [koji] , let it, then install firefox again
[03:40] <rob^> you will get them all back
[03:40] <chrissturm> koji: you can just reinstall it with synaptic
[03:41] <elkbuntu> is it worth sticking with the ubuntu firefox or is it better to swap it for the real deal?
[03:41] <alisher> will remove just ubuntu-desktop, firefox-gnome-support and yelp, you can install them after again
[03:41] <nadroj> aftertaf, thanks!
[03:41] <aftertaf> elkbuntu:  it is the same thing irc
[03:41] <WebLOCH> elkbuntu, try Galeon
[03:41] <aftertaf> nadroj:  :)
[03:41] <aftertaf> or the one where the fat lady sings
[03:42] <[Jonne] > Ubuntu won't recognise my monitor through the DVI port
[03:42] <elkbuntu> its one im yet to get, so far my collection is, ff, opera, ephiphany, elinks, lynx...
[03:42] <[Jonne] > what should I try?
[03:42] <WebLOCH> elkbuntu,  all looks fine to me, dunno buddy
[03:42] <WebLOCH> elkbuntu, dont forget galeon!
[03:42] <elkbuntu> im a web developer, browsers are part of the deal
[03:42] <aftertaf> brb, x restart for kde3.5 beta tesing
[03:43] <Earthen> after taking the upgreade for firefox 1.0.7 I can now only run firefox as root from the terminal
[03:43] <WebLOCH> elkbuntu, surely any that use a specific engine (ie. Gecko) you only need one of?
[03:43] <Earthen> could some one heklp with this please
[03:43] <elkbuntu> nope, unfortunately, they all vary
[03:43] <rob^> Earthen, just use the firefox package in the Ubuntu repos
[03:43] <WebLOCH> better add mozilla browser ytjem
[03:43] <WebLOCH> and IE
[03:44] <Earthen> rob^, I did I think
[03:44] <La_PaRCa> hey guys, how would I go about setting up an ldap server on my machine?
[03:44] <elkbuntu> i have IE and mozilla package on my windows system
[03:44] <elkbuntu> you cant be a web designer without windows unfortunately :(
[03:44] <WebLOCH> Thats a lie
[03:44] <WebLOCH> Why cant you ?
[03:44] <sterwill> What's the difference between the backports at http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu and at http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/?  Are they two unrelated projects that just happen to use the name "hoary-backports" for their distributions?
[03:44] <elkbuntu> wine IE renders different to native IE
[03:44] <rob^> sterwill, one is official one isn't
[03:44] <elkbuntu> very slightly, but enough
[03:45] <WebLOCH> does it ?
[03:45] <elkbuntu> yep
[03:45] <rob^> sterwill, one breaks systems one doesn't
[03:45] <WebLOCH> hmmm...
[03:45] <juniper05> is there a command to view all shares on the LAN?
[03:45] <WebLOCH> I guess its plausible
[03:45] <rob^> sterwill, in short only use the archive.u.c one
[03:45] <WebLOCH> Why dont you JUST develop for good browserS?
[03:45] <sterwill> rob^, I've used them both now and no packages have broken my system.
[03:45] <La_PaRCa> hey guys, how would I go about setting up an ldap server on my machine?
[03:46] <Earthen> rob^, I updated useing the Ubuntu package manager
[03:46] <elkbuntu> because i cant take over the world and outlaw IE, or i would :D
[03:46] <rob^> sterwill, it is only a matter of time
[03:46] <sterwill> rob^, How so?
[03:46] <elkbuntu> if i could develop just for firefox, i'd be so so happy
[03:46] <boxerboy29> sterwill: if it hasnt done it are you willing to wait til youve done something important with it and have to lose the info?
[03:46] <rob^> sterwill, scroll up for an account on broken firefox for one thing
[03:46] <SuperNinjaKitty> what are the ways to access IRC?
[03:47] <WebLOCH> running xchat :P
[03:47] <elkbuntu> lol
[03:47] <sterwill> boxerboy29, No, I have systems to test updates before they're deployed to production servers.
[03:47] <Knorrie> or irssi
[03:47] <boxerboy29> xchat bitchx and 35 other ones
[03:47] <obontu> please help
[03:47] <boxerboy29> oh ok
[03:47] <obontu> my nvidia sound card won't work properly
[03:47] <WebLOCH> O_o nvida make sound cards?
[03:47] <boxerboy29> i even have a shell based irc cleint
[03:48] <WebLOCH> i need to learn to use VI
[03:48] <sterwill> rob^, I'm only using them on servers, so I wouldn't have come across those problems.  I've been using the clamav backports from the unofficial backports for a while.
[03:48] <WebLOCH> but im too lazy
[03:48] <elkbuntu> i was thinking the exact same thing, webLOCH
[03:48] <elkbuntu> about the cards
[03:48] <AnkhWeasel> Incidentally, what's with the "make-jpkg" command?
[03:48] <WebLOCH> yeah
[03:48] <obontu> on board
[03:48] <WebLOCH> Seems a bit odd
[03:48] <rob^> sterwill, you would be better off getting it from the official backports
[03:48] <obontu>  **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[03:48] <obontu> obontu card 0: nForce2 [NVidia nForce2] , device 0: Intel ICH [NVidia nForce2] 
[03:48] <obontu> obontu   Subdevices: 1/1
[03:48] <obontu> obontu   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[03:48] <obontu> obontu card 0: nForce2 [NVidia nForce2] , device 2: Intel ICH - IEC958 [NVidia nForce2 - IEC958] 
[03:48] <obontu> obontu   Subdevices: 1/1
[03:48] <obontu> obontu   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[03:48] <WebLOCH> AnkWeasel, I wondered that, I assume that its make-java package
[03:49] <Knorrie> how can I install a xpi extension in Mozilla Thunderbird? Do I need to do that as root?
[03:49] <vinboy> hi
[03:49] <sterwill> rob^, That's what I came to ask about.  I think I'll switch.
[03:49] <vinboy> why is dma not enabled by default?
[03:49] <WebLOCH> obontu dont paste in here
[03:49] <obontu> sorry
[03:49] <La_PaRCa> boxerboy29, try irssi
[03:49] <rob^> sterwill, in breezy at least clamav is in universe
[03:50] <sterwill> rob^, I'm using hoary on all these machines now.  0.86.2-5~hoary1 is in hoary-backports.
[03:50] <AnkhWeasel> Okay, so it changes it to a .deb. Excellent. ...How? :P
[03:50] <boxerboy29> la_parca thank you i will ty
[03:50] <robotgeek> WebLOCH: check out vim-tutor in a terminal
[03:50] <sterwill> Which is new enough for me.
[03:50] <WebLOCH> AnkhWeasel, I dont know, but i know its specific to the java binary, it wont work on other binaries
[03:51] <elkbuntu> as is aegis, rob
[03:51] <rob^> sterwill, 0.83-2ubuntu1 is in horay universe
[03:51] <WebLOCH> AnkhWeasel, there are other tools that do similar things to any binary of course or other packages, like "alien"
[03:51] <WebLOCH> ty robotgeek
[03:51] <AnkhWeasel> Thanks.
[03:51] <jez> are there any decent GUI partition programs that I can install on Ubuntu Linux without installing about a billion dependencies first??
[03:52] <WebLOCH> AnkhWeasel, make just contains rules for compiling etc, then it compiles whatever needs to be compiled, runs any scripts that need running
[03:52] <rob^> jez, gparted/qtparted are the best
[03:52] <AnkhWeasel> Web: It comes up with "/usr/bin/fakeroot: line 150: make-jpkg: command not found"
[03:52] <WebLOCH> paste what you entered
[03:52] <WebLOCH> or privmsg me with it
[03:53] <rob^> jez, either way if you want gui partitioning then you need to install a few dependancies
[03:53] <AnkhWeasel> " fakeroot make-jpkg --full-name "edited name for IRC" --email "edited@gmail.com" jdk-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin""
[03:53] <rob^> AnkhWeasel, you need to install make-jpkg
[03:53] <WebLOCH> nah its installed
[03:54] <Belutz> is there any app for converting wma into mp3 in ubuntu?
[03:54] <WebLOCH> oh i see
[03:54] <WebLOCH> AnkhWeasel, just try fakeroot make-jpg "filenamehere"
[03:54] <WebLOCH> AnkhWeasel, just try fakeroot make-jpkg "filenamehere"   < sorry that
[03:54] <WebLOCH> but use the binary name
[03:54] <jez> can qtparted resize partitions?
[03:55] <AnkhWeasel> Same error, mate.
[03:55] <rob^> jez, yep
[03:55] <WebLOCH> i guess rob is right then
[03:55] <AnkhWeasel> Hey, Seveas. :)
[03:55] <rob^> AnkhWeasel, sudo apt-get install java-package
[03:56] <jez> rob: but i have to install a ton of stuff before i can get it
[03:56] <WebLOCH> my apologies rob^
[03:56] <jez> why isnt there an apt-get package for qtparted?
[03:56] <rob^> WebLOCH, np
[03:56] <AnkhWeasel> "E: Couldn't find package java-package"
[03:56] <rob^> AnkhWeasel, you need to enable the extra repos
[03:57] <rob^> !repos
[03:57] <ubotu> repos is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[03:57] <AnkhWeasel> Ah, that'll be a handy list.
[03:58] <WebLOCH> !reporape
[03:58] <ubotu> WebLOCH: No idea
[03:58] <WebLOCH> lies ubotu, lies
[03:59] <rob^> AnkhWeasel, you couldn't have otherwise you would have java-package available to you
[03:59] <jez> can i install Qt via apt-get?
[03:59] <jez> or does it need compil;ing?
[03:59] <rob^> jez, no via apt-get
[04:01] <jez> so, why can i install that via apt-get
[04:01] <jez> but not qtparted??
[04:01] <hutgyrr> how do you log out of a channel in bitchx
[04:01] <jez> try /part
[04:01] <hutgyrr> thanks
[04:01] <rob^> jez, qtparted is in universe
[04:01] <Red_Bullet> how can i configure a cedega emulator
[04:01] <jez> eh?
[04:01] <boxerboy29> i just installed a few different irc chat clients and not a damn one of them show up in any menu do i need to restart x?
[04:01] <jez> you mean i COULD have isntalled it via apt-get?
[04:01] <rob^> !cedega
[04:01] <ubotu> cedega is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega
[04:01] <jez> arghhh
[04:01] <jez> ive wasted hours
[04:01] <La_PaRCa> !openldap
[04:01] <ubotu> La_PaRCa: I don't know, could you explain it?
[04:01] <AnkhWeasel> That is one handy, handy Wiki.
[04:02] <elkbuntu> oh gawd... im finally getting around to doing the uninstall firefox and reinstall... it took out the dependancies, but now it's not redoing them? can someone do me a favour and mark firefox for removal and tell me what the dependancies were?
[04:02] <Red_Bullet> no i can't found anything about setting in transgaming.org
[04:02] <AnkhWeasel> Jez, I feel the exact same way. I think I need to reinstall Ubuntu. :P
[04:02] <Red_Bullet> rob^:
[04:02] <Red_Bullet> help me
[04:02] <Red_Bullet> are you have a configured cedega ?
[04:02] <WebLOCH> AnkhWeasel, if you do, use the server install, and then install everything manually
[04:02] <rob^> Red_Bullet, sorry you have to be clearer
[04:02] <AnkhWeasel> 'kay.
[04:02] <pont> Is there any good guides for installing Java on ubunut
[04:03] <pont> ubuntu
[04:03] <rob^> !java
[04:03] <ubotu> methinks java is to install Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:03] <Red_Bullet> why ? i don't understand you
[04:03] <WebLOCH> !telljava
[04:03] <pont> !tell java
[04:03] <rob^> Red_Bullet, follow this guide: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=45
[04:03] <WebLOCH> haha thats it
[04:03] <pont> :)
[04:03] <WebLOCH> hmm its KDE time
[04:04] <Earthen> elkbuntu, I think i have the same problem
[04:04] <rob^> elkbuntu, just do: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:05] <Earthen> elkbuntu, but can you start firefox as root
[04:05] <elkbuntu> earthen i havent put it back on my system yet, so, no
[04:05] <Earthen> elkbuntu, O I'm stuck as well, can only load firefox as root from command line
[04:06] <djjason> is anyone here familiar with lufs
[04:06] <rob^> djjason, only that its a pain
[04:06] <wickedpuppy> boxerboy29, my xchat is in menu
[04:07] <rob^> djjason, and there hasn't been much work on it lately
[04:07] <djjason> rob^, hmm really....it hasnt been that much of a pain on my end
[04:07] <rob^> djjason, depends, what were you trying to do with it?
[04:07] <djjason> rob^, just mounting a remote machine
[04:08] <d2dchat> who do i use wine to open photoshop on my windows hard drive?
[04:08] <d2dchat> how*
[04:08] <rob^> djjason, what via?
[04:08] <djjason> rob^, ssh
[04:08] <WebLOCH> hmm
[04:09] <rob^> djjason, yeah that will work without lufs
[04:09] <d2dchat> first off, what should i install to get wine?
[04:09] <djjason> rob^, really
[04:09] <ElkOS> ubuntuforums are down?
[04:09] <elkbuntu> maintainance
[04:09] <pont> hmm I don't just want the JRE tho :)
[04:09] <ElkOS> k, thx
[04:09] <rob^> djjason, just go to Places -> Connect to server
[04:10] <Earthen> rob^, I did what you sugested to elkbuntu and it installd yelp but did not fix my problem
[04:10] <jez> so
[04:10] <djjason> rob^, oh ok...did not know that...will I be able to mount the same thing on startup or will I always have to do that
[04:10] <jez> how do i get qtparted via apt-get then?
[04:10] <rob^> Earthen, did you remove the unofficial repos from your sources.list, then do an apt-get update?
[04:10] <elkbuntu> earthen, uninstall firefox completely again, and try again
[04:11] <Knorrie> is there a Thunderbird 1.5beta package available for ubuntu?
[04:11] <AnkhWeasel> E: Package j2re1.4 has no installation candidate
[04:11] <Earthen> rob^, I did update and i remove the backports from the list
[04:11] <AnkhWeasel> Gettin' closer...
[04:11] <Knorrie> or can I build it myself?
[04:11] <rob^> djjason, not sure, been a while since I've bothered with it :)
[04:11] <Earthen> elkbuntu, i did a remove and reinstall and it did the same
[04:12] <rob^> Earthen, do another update
[04:12] <Earthen> rob^, what repo's should i leave in there
[04:12] <rob^> Earthen, anything with ubuntu.com in it
[04:13] <Earthen> OK that is what I did, I will try it again revmove update and reinstall
[04:14] <annod> hey can anyone see this?
[04:14] <La_PaRCa> Um... whats a good ldap gui browser?
[04:15] <rob^> La_PaRCa, http://sourceforge.net/projects/gqclient
[04:15] <rob^> La_PaRCa, theres a nicer one but I forget the name
[04:15] <WebLOCH> apt-get has one MASSIVE failing
[04:16] <La_PaRCa> rob^, something that might be in the repos?
[04:16] <rob^> WebLOCH, human interaction?
[04:16] <WebLOCH> rob^, pretty much
[04:16] <elkbuntu> lol rob
[04:16] <jez> Anyone know how I can use apt-get to get qtparted?
[04:16] <elkbuntu> thats one failing computers in general have
[04:16] <WebLOCH> rob^, it lets a retard like me close the window and end what its doing, again and again and again
[04:16] <rob^> jez: sudo apt-get install qtparted
[04:16] <jez> package doesnt exist.
[04:17] <Seveas> !info qtparted
[04:17] <WebLOCH> sudo apt-get self-labotomize
[04:17] <rob^> ubotu tell jez about repos
[04:17] <ubotu> qtparted: (A parted frontend using QT), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.4.4-3ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 197 kB, Installed size: 724 kB
[04:17] <Seveas> enable universe
[04:17] <rob^> jez, add the repos from the wiki url ubotu just gave you
[04:17] <WebLOCH> maybe someone should write a brief enable script
[04:17] <Earthen> rob^, I just did a remove and it removed: mozilla-firefox,mozilla-firefox-dom-inspector, mozilla-firefox-gnome-support, ubuntu-desktop, yelp,
[04:17] <WebLOCH> so you can just type
[04:17] <Earthen> rob^, taht lok right to you
[04:17] <WebLOCH> repo universe enable
[04:17] <WebLOCH> and such
[04:18] <rob^> Earthen, I suppose :)
[04:18] <Seveas> Earthen, looks fine, just disable backports first and install ubuntu-desktop again later
[04:18] <La_PaRCa> rob^, thanks for the gq thing, found it on the repos
[04:18] <rob^> La_PaRCa, np
[04:18] <La_PaRCa> !info gq
[04:18] <ubotu> gq: (GTK-based LDAP client), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1.0beta1-2 (hoary), Packaged size: 194 kB, Installed size: 584 kB
[04:18] <hutgyrr> whats the command to see all the shares on my LAN?
[04:18] <annod> anyone help me out real quick
[04:18] <Earthen> Seveas, rob^ , ok will try the reinstall now
[04:18] <WebLOCH> sudo lan showall my
[04:18] <djjason> rob^, ok I think that what you suggested will work just fine for me...
[04:19] <La_PaRCa> Wonder why ubuntu doesnt  have a openldap packaged in the repos
[04:19] <djjason> rob^, thanks alot
[04:19] <rob^> djjason, ok sounds good
[04:19] <rob^> np
[04:19] <annod> +m
[04:19] <annod> +v
[04:19] <Seveas> !info slapd
[04:19] <hutgyrr> is it smbclient -b. This asks for a passwd i dont have each time I try to run it
[04:19] <ubotu> slapd: (OpenLDAP server (slapd)), section net, is optional. Version: 2.1.30-3ubuntu3 (hoary), Packaged size: 956 kB, Installed size: 2676 kB
[04:19] <Seveas> ^-- La_PaRCa
[04:20] <rob^> I was just about to say that
[04:20] <WebLOCH> Im such an idiot
[04:20] <DarkOrigin> Hmm, what is colony? (regarding the tinyurl.com in topic)
[04:20] <boxerboy29> how do i access the irc clients i just installed?
[04:20] <La_PaRCa> Seveas, dang int
[04:20] <WebLOCH> boxerboy29, check out your menu
[04:20] <rob^> DarkOrigin, kind of like a preview release
[04:20] <boxerboy29> they are not there
[04:20] <La_PaRCa> Seveas, well, havent done make install just yet
[04:20] <Seveas> :)
[04:20] <jjazz> boxerboy29:  What clients are they?
[04:21] <DarkOrigin> hmm, okay, so not different from the other preview release on the site?
[04:21] <boxerboy29> bitchx,ircii, and more i dont remember names off hand
[04:21] <rob^> DarkOrigin, no
[04:21] <DarkOrigin> Ah, okay. Confused me because it's not the same page :) Thanks .
[04:21] <La_PaRCa> boxerboy29, open a terminal and type irssi there
[04:21] <WebLOCH> brb
[04:21] <boxerboy29> the only one that attached to menu was ayttm
[04:21] <WebLOCH> lets see if thisallworked
[04:21] <jjazz> boxerboy29:  just start them from the commandline
[04:21] <annod> can anyone help real quick?
[04:22] <rob^> annod, just ask
[04:22] <Earthen> Seveas, I disable backports and and removed all downloaded cache files
[04:22] <annod> nevermind, you ust answered my ?
[04:22] <boxerboy29> i typed bitchx at command line and it was invald
[04:23] <Seveas> boxerboy29, apt-get install bitchx
[04:23] <DarkOrigin> the ubuntu site says that Hardware support has greatly improved in 5.10 , among that is laptop mode and hotkeys on laptops - Does anyone have a list of these improvements (was going to look on the forums, but they seem down) ?
[04:23] <bob2> I'd just not bother using bitchx
[04:23] <boxerboy29> now it wants to work
[04:24] <bob2> it's not worth the trouble
[04:24] <bob2> DarkOrigin: the forums are unlikely to have usrful documentation on that topic
[04:24] <bob2> DarkOrigin: the wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam page is likely to be more useful
[04:24] <rob^> I'm a xchat gui whore myself
[04:24] <DarkOrigin> Ah, great, thank you.
[04:25] <WebLOCH> hmm
[04:25] <WebLOCH> i just installed KDE
[04:25] <WebLOCH> how the hell do i run it ?
[04:25] <rob^> WebLOCH, select it when you log in
[04:25] <WebLOCH> rob^, wasnt given the option
[04:26] <rob^> WebLOCH, you won't, you have to change it before you log in
[04:26] <WebLOCH> also, everytime ubuntu updates itself it duplicates the kernels listed in grub :P
[04:26] <WebLOCH> rob^, how can i select it before i am prompted to ?
[04:26] <bob2> use aptitude
[04:26] <bob2> then that won't happen
[04:26] <rob^> WebLOCH, there is a menu on the login screen
[04:27] <WebLOCH> rob^, ill logout AND LOOK
[04:27] <WebLOCH> sorry for caps
[04:27] <rob^> yeah might be an idea..
[04:27] <rob^> :)
[04:28] <DarkOrigin> Bah, my laptop hasn't been tested completely yet. I'm off to install the preview then, might as well test it while I'm at it.
[04:28] <WebLOCH> hmmm
[04:28] <meez> Hello, can anyone direct me to any easy ways to point to a group of screenshots and turn them into an avi (game movie making stuff)? I can't seem to find anything fitting :\
[04:28] <WebLOCH> im not sureif i like it or not
[04:28] <Earthen> Seveas, rob^ , I did what you say but i'm still in the same situation can only load firefox from root
[04:28] <bob2> meez: mencoder can
[04:29] <meez> thanks, ill try it
[04:29] <rob^> Earthen, might be some odd premissions problem
[04:30] <Earthen> rob^, that is what I was thinking how would i solve that
[04:30] <bipolar> How do I rename a printer? I've got a printer that uses the postscript driver and I can't seem to figure out how to rename it from "Postscript-Printer" to something more useful.
[04:31] <rob^> Earthen, hmm.. painfully I suppose
[04:31] <Earthen> rob^, I was so afraide you were gonna say something like that! :(
[04:31] <jez> OK, how do I install qtparted via synaptic package manager?
[04:31] <jez> in Ubuntu
[04:32] <rob^> I guess thats what you get for using the dodgy backports :)
[04:32] <bob2> jez: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[04:32] <Earthen> rob^, I don't like the idea of running firefox as root all the time
[04:32] <WebLOCH> I think im done with kde
[04:32] <rob^> jez, just search for it
[04:32] <jez> there isnt a qtparted package :-(((
[04:32] <rob^> jez, you need to enable universe
[04:32] <butcherbird> KDE blech...
[04:33] <WebLOCH> butcherbird, yeaqh im about to go uninstall it
[04:33] <WebLOCH> :(
[04:33] <bob2> jez: yes, there is
[04:34] <Seveas> Earthen, killall firefox-bin
[04:34] <adjacent> Earthen: is firefox running?
[04:35] <adjacent> Seveas beat me to it
[04:35] <rob^> I assumed it wasn't
[04:37] <Seveas> i assume it is, happend to quite a few people already that there was a firefox ghost left
[04:37] <tuskernini> hi there... assume you are talking about the firefox update issues
[04:38] <larsrohdin> join /xfce
[04:38] <ElohiteAngel> So there are more people than I who got into problems when updating firefox?
[04:38] <rob^> Seveas, thats odd, it shouldn't stop you running another copy of it
[04:38] <larsrohdin> ElohiteAngel, yep me too
[04:39] <Seveas> ElohiteAngel, all backports victims
[04:39] <tuskernini> has anyone found a solution for the firefox update? I see the supprot server is down
[04:39] <Seveas> !ff fix
[04:39] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ff fix is sudo dpkg --purge --force-depends firefox firefox-gnome-support ; sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox mozilla-firefox-gnome-support
[04:39] <rob^> backports, I gues that explains it
[04:39] <rob^> eww what a kludge
[04:39] <tuskernini> will do
[04:40] <WebLOCH> Hey guys, its safe for me to remove unused kernels right ?
[04:40] <Seveas> yes
[04:42] <bipolar> I can't find out any way to change a printers name. At this rate I'm going to have three printers all with the same name.
[04:43] <ElohiteAngel> ubotu. Woohoo! Thanks it works!
[04:43] <bob2> rob^: less evil than --force-overwrite, tho
[04:44] <rob^> bob2, true
[04:44] <rob^> bob2, I still hate forcing things with apt-get
[04:44] <tuskernini> wow... thank you ... it looks like it worked...
[04:44] <tuskernini> ciao
[04:44] <sskk> I'm about to get on the Ubuntu train... Would you recommend I go for the 5.10 pre-release, or the safe 5.04 release... It's just for my desktop...?
[04:45] <rob^> depends on your experience with Linux
[04:45] <elkbuntu> or whether you're likely to stuff around and break things anyway ;)
[04:45] <tuskernini> nope... talked to fast.. did not work here...
[04:45] <tuskernini> gotta go.. latr
[04:45] <La_PaRCa> um... how do I import from LDIF to slapd?
[04:46] <sskk> I have quite some experience with Linux, and usually breaks stuff, elkbuntu... So I guess, you recommend 5.10 then..
[04:46] <Jowi> hello everyone
[04:46] <elkbuntu> yep
[04:46] <elkbuntu> i do anyway
[04:47] <elkbuntu> if you're going to break stuff, you might as well break new stuff
[04:47] <WebLOCH> !tell WebLOCH about splashy
[04:47] <WebLOCH> hrrm
[04:47] <rob^> ?
[04:47] <WebLOCH> I cant find the official site for splashy
[04:47] <rob^> what is splashy?
[04:47] <WebLOCH> I thought ubotu may have learned it over time
[04:47] <WebLOCH> Splash screen for boot up sequence
[04:47] <jez> hum
[04:47] <rob^> WebLOCH, breezy has one
[04:48] <WebLOCH> i believe it will be included in Breezy final
[04:48] <WebLOCH> yeah
[04:48] <rob^> usplash
[04:48] <WebLOCH> well thats it
[04:48] <jez> i'm using Ubuntu live, yet my hard disk still seems to be in 'busy' status
[04:48] <jez> can i just unmount it without a problem?
[04:48] <WebLOCH> rob^, i cant find it in the repos
[04:48] <JairunCaloth> Can someone help me out, I broke X some how
[04:48] <rob^> WebLOCH, its there, just sudo apt-get install uspash
[04:48] <Jowi> btw, how is Ubuntu on mac-mini? thinking about getting one...
[04:48] <WebLOCH> rob^,  couldnt find package
[04:49] <rob^> oops I ment usplash
[04:49] <Jowi> JairunCaloth: what happens?
[04:49] <WebLOCH> rob^,  thats what i typed :P
[04:49] <hutgyrr> well, ive tried everything out there for mounting the Windows share. However, I keep getting the same error... tree connect failed: ERRDOS - ERRnosuchshare (You specified an invalid share name)
[04:49] <rob^> well, I've got it :)
[04:50] <rob^> but then, I'm using breezy
[04:50] <hutgyrr> with mount -t smbfs -o username=user,password=passs //192.168.0.230/temp\ filesystem/ /mnt/oldserverwork
[04:50] <ElkOS> hutgyrr: what command are you using?
[04:50] <hutgyrr> also tried "//192.168.0.230/temp filesystem/"
[04:51] <hutgyrr> and //192.168.0.230/temp\040filesystem/
[04:51] <rob^> hutgyrr, have you tried Places -> Network servers?
[04:51] <WebLOCH> hmm rob^ doesnt  matter found binaries, thanks tho
[04:51] <JairunCaloth> Jowi: I'm getting this error **(gnome-session:7570) warning: Unable to read ICEauthority file
[04:51] <Jowi> JairunCaloth: did you by any chance run Nautilus as root?
[04:52] <JairunCaloth> Jowi: k3b was giving me that same error before I shutdown last night, after I ran k3b as root trying to get it to burn a file
[04:52] <hutgyrr> i get a passwd box up when I go the GUI asking me for a password with user administartor that I cant change
[04:52] <jez> Is there a way to get Ubuntu live to work without using a hard drive for Linux swap space?
[04:53] <Jowi> JairunCaloth: try to see if the lock exist in /var/lock.
[04:53] <hutgyrr> so I cant login through there either
[04:53] <boxerboy29> ok what is this debian list i have in gnome now?
[04:53] <Jowi> JairunCaloth: alco check if .ICEauthority is in your homedir
[04:53] <rob^> hutgyrr, sound like an issue with your network
[04:54] <hutgyrr> its not
[04:54] <lunatech> if you install anything from the multiverse repository, i think you get theat menu boxerboy29
[04:54] <rob^> hutgyrr, you are trying to login using the current user of your linux box
[04:54] <rob^> not the user of the windows box
[04:54] <hutgyrr> rob: not from  the cl
[04:54] <boxerboy29> lunatech ty all the irc cleints i installed are listed there so i was wondering
[04:55] <djjason> does anyone know how I can recursively delete directories that have a certain name
[04:55] <JairunCaloth> jowi: I"m not sure what you mean by see if the lock exists and .ICEauthority is present in my home
[04:55] <rob^> hutgyrr, just create a user with the same user name on your windows box, or set it up correctly to allow anyone to view the shares
[04:55] <Jowi> djjason: rm -r somename (alt: rm -rf somename)
[04:56] <hussam> Is ubuntu.com down? I can't access archive.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com or anything .ubuntu.com
[04:56] <hutgyrr> everyone can use the share with the correct username and password which I am specifying on the command line
[04:56] <rob^> hussam, no problems here
[04:56] <hutgyrr> The error is NOSUCHSHARE
[04:56] <hutgyrr> though it is there
[04:56] <djjason> Jowi, thanks
[04:56] <Jowi> JairunCaloth: ls -la .ICEauthority. the file should have these: -rw----------
[04:56] <rob^> well I guess you might have the share name wrong or somthing
[04:57] <ElkOS> hutgyrr: are the permissions on the NT box's share correct?
[04:57] <Jowi> JairunCaloth: and it should be owned by the user - not root
[04:57] <hutgyrr> yes, i was accessing it fine on Friday
[04:57] <JairunCaloth> jowi: root stole my file!
[04:58] <kemik> thieving account :|
[04:58] <kemik> it stole your precious
[04:58] <Jowi> JairunCaloth: that's what i thought. chown yourusername:yourusername .ICEauthority
[04:58] <JairunCaloth> chown that's the name of that command
[04:58] <mcscruff> lo
[04:58] <Jowi> lo mcscruff
[04:59] <mlopes> how to I move a revision to HEAD?
[04:59] <faen> Anyone have the updated ubuntusetup.sh I posted in the forums?
[04:59] <mcscruff> please can someone help me recompile my kernel
[04:59] <mlopes> sorry wrong chan :P
[04:59] <bob2> mcscruff: why?
[04:59] <rob^> faen, don't use it
[04:59] <faen> I could really use it :P
[04:59] <mlopes> but if anyone knows it would be nice (subversion)
[04:59] <mcscruff> vmware
[04:59] <aladds> mcscruff, have you got the kernel source??
[04:59] <faen> ;/
[04:59] <rob^> faen, don't run scripts from strange places you don't understand
[04:59] <mcscruff> yep
[04:59] <bob2> mcscruff: using vmware has nothing to do with recompiling your kernel
[05:00] <bob2> don't be silly
[05:00] <aladds> cd to it's folder
[05:00] <bob2> aladds: please don't hand out bad advice
[05:00] <faen> rob^, I took an existing script and re-did it, I understand it perfectly
[05:00] <mcscruff> i will paste
[05:00] <aladds> bob2 sorry
[05:00] <bob2> mcscruff: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential
[05:00] <ElkOS> hutgyrr: does the share show when you do smbclient -L server -U user?
[05:00] <mcscruff> bob, i have doen that
[05:00] <bob2> mcscruff: and?
[05:00] <rob^> faen, I would just look at restricted formats on the wiki
[05:00] <jez> I need help here - I have Ubuntu Linux (live version) running, as well as Qtparted, but I can't change partitions on the main hard drive because it's saying /dev/sda2 is in use.  is there some way I can stop it being in use?
[05:00] <rob^> its been updated
[05:01] <bob2> jez: sudo umount /dev/sda2
[05:01] <mcscruff> bob2, whats the site to paste to and i will show you what vmware says
[05:01] <aladds> jez: umount it
[05:01] <faen> rob^, I know fully well how to update/admin my system the script makes it go quite a bit faster
[05:01] <bob2> mcscruff: paste it into the #flood channel
[05:01] <Jowi> jeffisageek: unmount the disk you want to change
[05:01] <ndlovu> tried posting earlier but I think there was an error. Sorry if I'm repeating
[05:01] <JairunCaloth> jowi: what's the command to give me RW access to the file right now it's ---------T
[05:01] <Jowi> jeffisageek: it was ment for jez :)
[05:01] <ndlovu> I want to print multiple pages per sheet, anyone know how?
[05:01] <mcscruff> bob2 i pated
[05:02] <mcscruff> pasted
[05:02] <ndlovu> assume mpage is the key, but not altogether sure how to incorporate it in an x environment
[05:02] <Jowi> JairunCaloth: chmod o+rw filename should do it
[05:02] <bob2> mcscruff: that also has nothing to do with recompiling your kernel
[05:02] <Seveas> ndlovu, print to a psfile
[05:02] <rob^> faen, well if your happy then go for it
[05:02] <Seveas> cat psfile | mpage -4 | lpr
[05:02] <bob2> mcscruff: sudo aptitutde install gcc-3.4 ; CC=gcc-3.4 ./vmware-config.pl
[05:02] <faen> heh
[05:02] <mcscruff> ty
[05:02] <ndlovu> Seveas, is there some way to automate the process so it always prints that way?
[05:03] <JairunCaloth> I'm still getting the same error
[05:03] <jez> bob2: /dev/sda2 isn't mounted, yet it is still being used by Ubuntu
[05:03] <jez> it's a Linux swap partition
[05:03] <Jowi> JairunCaloth: and user:user is owner of the file?
[05:04] <jez> is there some way I can get Ubuntu live not to use the hard drive at all, even for swap??
[05:04] <bob2> jez: does "swapon -s" show it being in use?
[05:04] <JairunCaloth> jowi: yes
[05:04] <jez> bob2: yes
[05:04] <Jowi> JairunCaloth: well, i think that .ICEauthority only links to a bunch of stuff in /tmp/....
[05:04] <bob2> jez: then swapoff it
[05:05] <yancheng> i came across the linux header and saw some interesting, "do { something } while (0)"
[05:05] <JairunCaloth> jowi: gnome is telling me it can't start because it can't read it
[05:05] <yancheng> may i know why they need to have a do{}while(0) block ??
[05:05] <Jowi> Seveas, bob2: any ideas about the .ICEauthority? is it safe to remove (will it be recreated?) or should /tmp be cleared instead?
[05:06] <Seveas> Jowi, remove both :)
[05:06] <Seveas> (well, not /tmp itself, but the contents)
[05:07] <sege> how do I switch from UTF-8 to ISO-8859-1 in Ubuntu 5.04?
[05:07] <Jowi> JairunCaloth: Seveas has spoken :)
[05:07] <Seveas> sege, why go back in time?
[05:07] <JairunCaloth> righto
[05:07] <sege> Seveas: i love the past ;)
[05:08] <kemik> sege:  dpkg-reconfigure locales perhaps--
[05:08] <jez> now it's showing /dev/sda as readonly!  arghhhh!
[05:08] <sege> kemik: thanks.
[05:08] <jez> why the hell is it readonly?
[05:08] <Seveas> sege, in that case apt-get install timemachine linux-image-0.0.1 ;)
[05:08] <Seveas> and dpkg-reconfigure locales
[05:08] <sege> Seveas: hehe =)
[05:08] <JairunCaloth> is there a quick way to empty out /tmp without having to delete each file one at a time?
[05:08] <bob2> jez: if anything is in use there, resizing is not going to be possible
[05:08] <Seveas> JairunCaloth, rm -rf /tmp/*
[05:08] <faen> rm -rf *
[05:08] <rob^> ouch
[05:08] <bob2> er
[05:08] <bob2> neither of those will work
[05:09] <jez> bob2: but why would the device status be readonly?
[05:09] <bob2> since the things you care about in /tmp are dot-files
[05:09] <kemik> sudo rm -rf /tmp
[05:09] <kemik> ;)
[05:09] <Seveas> not all :)
[05:09] <Seveas> kemik, that's the worst way
[05:09] <aladds> sudo rm -rf / :p
[05:09] <Seveas> JairunCaloth, rm -rf /tmp/* /tmp/.*
[05:09] <faen> rm -rf * $HOME
[05:09] <faen> :D
[05:09] <Seveas> as NORMAL user
[05:09] <AnkhWeasel> Hmm..
[05:09] <Jowi> kemik: no use deleting the tmp all together ;)
[05:09] <Seveas> not as root
[05:09] <kemik> Seveas:  but i could do it as such, and then "sudo mkdir /tmp"  ;)
[05:10] <AnkhWeasel> "No matching plugin was found."
[05:10] <Seveas> kemik, and then obviously forgetting the stick bit...
[05:10] <rob^> night all
[05:10] <AnkhWeasel> Sleep well.
[05:10] <kemik> uh yeah :|
[05:10] <hussam> rob^: my other computer can access archive.ubuntu.com ( though firefox ) but my Linux computer cannot.
[05:10] <JairunCaloth> Thanks jowi and everyone else :) gnome is starting again. As you can probably tell, I'm pretty lost in command line mode :)
[05:10] <rob^> hussam, sounds like a network problem
[05:10] <rikva> Does anyone know of a howto/tutorial for softwaresuspend (hibernate) on Ubuntu?
[05:11] <AnkhWeasel> Are you Aussie, rob^?
[05:11] <Jowi> JairunCaloth: np. practice makes perfect
[05:11] <rob^> AnkhWeasel, yeah
[05:11] <AnkhWeasel> West Aussie?
[05:11] <rob^> nah, queenslander
[05:11] <bob2> rikva: step 1) sudo /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh
[05:11] <faen> rikva, there was a few tutorials on the forums but since it's down google may help
[05:11] <hussam> rob^: any idea how I can fix it? My other computer has windows XP.
[05:11] <AnkhWeasel> Ah. Right-o, then. :)
[05:11] <bob2> rikva: step 2) all done
[05:11] <rob^> hussam, set up networking properly
[05:11] <rob^> anyway, good night :)
[05:12] <JairunCaloth> ah good ol x chat
[05:12] <rikva> bob2: it doesn't turn off.
[05:12] <rikva> faen: all the google hits point to the forums :)
[05:12] <Jowi> Ubuntu + mac-mini = good idea?
[05:12] <faen> rikva, any of them cached?
[05:12] <aladds> use macosx on a macmini
[05:12] <aladds> thats what it's for
[05:12] <rikva> faen: good idea.
[05:12] <aladds> :)
[05:13] <jez> hum
[05:13] <jez> i think i may have just horked /dev/sda
[05:13] <jez> :-)
[05:13] <rikva> bob2: now my pc crashed :|
[05:13] <jez> i cant see anything on there that's mounted currently, but it's coming up as readonly
[05:13] <bob2> rikva: then you've found a bug, please report it
[05:13] <jez> this is fucking lame
[05:13] <Jowi> aladds: not really answering my question since I want the ubuntu goodies and GPL software in a teeny-weenie box.
[05:13] <aladds> hmm
[05:14] <Jowi> :)
[05:14] <bob2> jez: language
[05:14] <aladds> well i dunno about ubuntu, but Yellow Dawg works very well on macs
[05:14] <aladds> (wrong place to say that :!)
[05:14] <aladds> sorry guys
[05:14] <JairunCaloth> now I get to tackle the real problem of the day, why the heck my dvd burner is turning out coasters
[05:14] <aladds> my mac would run ubuntu if i had partitioned the hd before filling it with osx
[05:14] <aladds> :)
[05:14] <Jowi> aladds: yeah, but no debian repos for YD. asaik it is red-hat/fedora?
[05:15] <kemik> JairunCaloth:  can be nasty.. my burner toasts all my cds in Windows, but works flawlessly in ubuntu.. really weird
[05:15] <aladds> Jowi: it's basically a port of Red-hat to the ppc
[05:15] <blekos> ok may i suggest something?
[05:15] <aladds> it uses yum
[05:15] <blekos> i just discover the vlc player which comes with codecs etc...
[05:15] <blekos> i was using xine but not luck
[05:15] <aladds> try ubuntu, it'd probab;ly be quite good
[05:16] <blekos> so u can suggest, next time someone asks about codecs etc,  u only need to ad:)
[05:16] <blekos> the extra depos.
[05:16] <ndlovu> any ideas how to send pdf files straight to the printer from the command-line?
[05:16] <faen> i'm sick of doing debian net-installs ;/
[05:16] <kemik> blekos:  there are alot of totem-fans in here :/
[05:16] <wickedpuppy> why ubuntu uses init level 2 for desktop + network ??/ i would have thought 5 is it
[05:17] <JairunCaloth> what is a good dvd burner program?
[05:17] <Jowi> aladds: i have had too much rpm failures in the past. i am not going back :) Anyway, i think i might give it a go. no reason it shouldn't work with the ppc version but just in case i wanted to ask.
[05:17] <Jowi> JairunCaloth: i use graveman. k3b is good as well.
[05:17] <kemik> blekos:  and dont ask me why ppl are struggling with totem when there are excelent programs liks VLC and mplayer out there ;)
[05:17] <faen> i've never been a fan of totem.. i've always liked xine/mplayer
[05:17] <blekos> tomem, sorry to say has caused me a LOt of troubles
[05:17] <blekos> ...
[05:17] <JairunCaloth> k3b has been giving me nothing but headaches
[05:17] <blekos> totem, was lagging in DVDs, would be anschronus with xvid...
[05:18] <blekos> hmmm
[05:18] <digitize> faen: same
[05:18] <blekos> it makes u think :)
[05:18] <blekos> should i toss it now or l8r?
[05:18] <blekos> lol
[05:18] <aladds> Jowi: if thats the case, i hear it works well
[05:18] <faen> I wouldn't wait to toss it, it's taking up valuable space :P
[05:18] <Jowi> JairunCaloth: well, graveman should contain all you need. hasn't failed me ye.
[05:18] <blekos> :))
[05:19] <faen> any ideas as to when the forums will be back up?
[05:19] <aladds> Jowi: i've only run it on one new world mac, my ibook, and that was from the livecd and X11 didnt work
[05:21] <blekos> hahah just visited a site and warns me of spyware...
[05:21] <aladds> lol
[05:22] <faen> bah, I gotta restart x
[05:22] <blekos> anybody got any idea how can i back up my ubuntu??
[05:22] <Jowi> aladds: ah. well, i've done some research and X.org seems to work fine on the mac-mini but sound could be a hassle atm. there is a sounddriver for it but it is pretty new and not really implemented yet in the kernel that Ubuntu uses, without a patch.
[05:22] <aladds> ah
[05:23] <blekos> how i can image it?
[05:23] <aladds> dd
[05:23] <jez> ok, now Qtparted seems to be resizing a partition.  but it's taking AGES, like over an hour.  i dont get why
[05:23] <jez> i mean, it just needs to change the size of the partition in the allocation table, doesnt it?
[05:23] <aladds> it;s moving your old data to somewhere there is no data
[05:23] <La_PaRCa> jez, um, if the disk was fragmented, it needs to defrag
[05:23] <FaithX> is there a firewall script for ubuntu?
[05:23] <jez> well even so
[05:24] <jez> defragging shouldnt take over an hour
[05:24] <kemik> FaithX:  firestarter
[05:24] <_jason> how can I defrag in Ubuntu?
[05:24] <blekos> try firestarter
[05:24] <Jowi> blekos: http://www.sysresccd.org/ rescue cd with partitioning and "ghost"imaging
[05:24] <blekos> but u do not really need one
[05:24] <FaithX> blekos, do not need one?
[05:24] <blekos> yes, unless u r running a server
[05:25] <blekos> that's the beaty of linux
[05:25] <sproingie> what's the name of the app that sets the cpu architecture, i.e. when i want my amd64 to lie and say it's i386?
[05:25] <FaithX> blekos, are you suggesting running a pc on the net without a firewall?
[05:25] <hutgyrr> i currently have many users connected to a server. How can I see what machines are connected currently? If the clients are copying data to the server is it possible for me to see how man gigs its copied over?
[05:25] <blekos> lol yes & no
[05:26] <FaithX> blekos, that is madness
[05:26] <blekos> :))
[05:26] <blekos> r u afraid of a port scan?
[05:26] <Jowi> FaithX: blekos is right. if you're behind a router and only forwards the ports you need. Ubuntu is not listening to any ports by default so no firewall needed.
[05:27] <ElkOS> hutgyrr: for the rx/tx data, take a look at vnstat
[05:27] <FaithX> Jowi, now your are talking behind a nat device
[05:27] <Jowi> FaithX: correct
[05:27] <concept10> what is the mozilla flashplayer package called, i forgot, cant find it
[05:27] <AnkhWeasel> w00t!
[05:27] <FaithX> I am talking plug computer into the internet
[05:27] <sproingie> Jowi: that's specious advice.  the moment one installs useful services like sshd, it's listening
[05:27] <AnkhWeasel> Finally got JRE working in Firefox.
[05:27] <AnkhWeasel> Swanktastic.
[05:28] <FaithX> concept10, apt-cache search flash | grep moz
[05:28] <mypapit> AngryParsley, what's Swanktastic?
[05:28] <Jowi> sproingie: that's why i said "by default"
[05:28] <blekos> no matter, i am using firestarter ;)
[05:28] <butcherbird> can someone tell me exactly what netork-admin actually does when activating a device?  I would like to be able to do that myself from the command line without gui. ifconfig eth0 up doesnt work.
[05:28] <sproingie> Jowi: X also listens on arbitrary ports
[05:28] <Jowi> FaithX: if you're not behind a router I would myself install firestarter
[05:28] <concept10> FaithX, heh
[05:28] <butcherbird> by itself
[05:29] <goo> butcherbird: ifup eth0   should give you more response.
[05:29] <Jowi> sproingie: X is not accepting non-local connections by default.
[05:29] <Jowi> sproingie: although gdm can be setup to accept it
[05:29] <aladds> :D
[05:29] <concept10> I wonder if this is a different package (on breezy)
[05:29] <FaithX> are we not hardened Linux users?
[05:30] <concept10> GPL flash? what happened to the old mozilla-flashplayer plugin?
[05:30] <sproingie> i found the iptables tricks are brittle, and unportable to boot
[05:31] <sproingie> but they really should be part of ubuntu's ssh config
[05:31] <FaithX> concept10, flashplayer-mozilla
[05:31] <hutgyrr> thanks ElkOS. Is there anywhay to break it down to individual IP's rather than just the NIC
[05:32] <aladds> is there anything i should do after updating all the packages to make hoary into breezy?
[05:32] <FaithX> concept10, but you will need universe or multivers
[05:32] <Atarax> Hi! My firefox seems to not be able to handle .jnlp files correctly. When there is a link for java web start with this kind of file then it just opens a new firefox window and asks it should open the file with firefox, if I say ok it opens another window and asks again. This goes on and on.
[05:32] <Atarax> How can I make firefox handle java web start correctly?
[05:32] <concept10> FaithX, are you on breezy?
[05:33] <ElkOS> hutgyrr: what kind of service do you want to monitor?
[05:33] <bob2> Atarax: that sounds more like your web server is misconfigured
[05:33] <Atarax> bob2, I am very new to linux. Could you point me in the right direction how I could fix my problem?
[05:34] <bob2> not really
[05:34] <rikva> What are the advantages of a Ubuntu-patched kernel vs the vanilla kernel?
[05:34] <Atarax> wait, web SERVER?
[05:34] <Atarax> why server?
[05:34] <bob2> talk to whoever develops "java web start", whatever that is
[05:34] <bob2> rikva: a bajillion bug fixes and new features
[05:34] <Atarax> I am just talking of .jnlp files
[05:34] <FaithX> concept10, how to tell
[05:35] <FaithX> I am new to ubuntu
[05:35] <aladds> i just did the recommended thing and am reconfiguring x11
[05:35] <bob2> Atarax: it's pretty unlikely to be firefox's fault
[05:35] <aladds> but the 3dfx driver isn;t there
[05:35] <aladds> what's tdfx?
[05:35] <concept10> FaithX, nevermind, you will know if youre on breezy
[05:35] <Atarax> I see.
[05:35] <FaithX> concept10, howso?
[05:36] <concept10> FaithX, because breezy isnt officially released yet, you have to go out of your way (not really) to install
[05:37] <FaithX> concept10, deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe
[05:38] <Oetzi> hi
[05:39] <concept10> im disappointed that I couldnt do a succesful dist-upgrade to breezy
[05:39] <concept10> but the install cd works without a hitch
[05:39] <bob2> concept10: you presumably reported bugs, yes?
[05:39] <aladds> concept10: did you use the breezy or breezy-update apt source?
[05:39] <aladds> or the cd?
[05:40] <Earthen> concept10, to upgrade all I have to do is change the repo's to the breezy one's ?
[05:40] <aladds> i had to use breezy not breezy-update
[05:40] <concept10> Earthen, not recommended
[05:40] <Oetzi> is there a full apt source for all software under breezy or must I include alt hoary sources in my apt sourcelist?
[05:40] <Earthen> concept10, O why not?
[05:40] <concept10> aladds, I used the colony 4 cd
[05:40] <Jowi> there is a wiki for breezy upgrade if you look at the /topic
[05:40] <bob2> Oetzi: eh? breezy contains everything hoary did.
[05:40] <aladds> ah
[05:40] <Seveas> !tell Oetzi about sources
[05:40] <Oetzi> k
[05:40] <bob2> Oetzi: if you're refering to unsupported sources like backports, then YHL, HAND
[05:40] <concept10> bob2, I couldnt get xserver to start
[05:40] <aladds> well it seems to be booting
[05:40] <aladds> it has a bootsplash!!!
[05:41] <aladds> :D:D
[05:41] <ubuntugeek> ubuntuforums.org is backup.. sorry for the downtime the technician doing the hardware upgrade plugged it back into the wrong network..
[05:41] <bob2> concept10: and after you ran 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg', it still failed to work?
[05:41] <aladds> i like
[05:41] <sander> how can I easy install mplayer for ubuntu?
[05:41] <Seveas> apt-get install mplayer-586
[05:41] <AnkhWeasel> What's the best multimedia player for Ubuntu?
[05:41] <Seveas> AnkhWeasel, mpg321
[05:41] <concept10> bob2, yep.  It kept telling me 'cannot find any screens'
[05:41] <Seveas> (read: everyone will say something else)
[05:41] <digitize> Seveas: really you prefer mpg321?
[05:41] <bob2> concept10: which bug report did you post your log to?
[05:42] <bob2> AnkhWeasel: silly question; what's the best spread for toast?
[05:42] <Seveas> digitize, you spoke a bit too soon ;)
[05:42] <Jowi> I use "play" works great
[05:42] <digitize> Seveas: :)
[05:42] <AnkhWeasel> Yeah, I figured. I was just checking.
[05:42] <blekos> Vlc by far
[05:42] <Seveas> bob2, peanut butter!
[05:42] <Oetzi> does anyone have experience with a Marvel Gigabit-LAN-card under ubuntu
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[05:42] <AnkhWeasel> As long as I don't ask "Which is better, KDE or GNOME?", right?
[05:42] <blekos> it comes with the codecs
[05:42] <bob2> vegemite, duh
[05:42] <concept10> bob2, I didnt.. sorry, I just went ahead and used the colony 4 install cd.  I cant stand being on windows long
[05:42] <hyperzid> sorry.. I was asking about mplayer two sec ago..
[05:42] <digitize> blekos: so does just about every other *nix player
[05:42] <digitize> with no dshow layer
[05:42] <digitize> they have to
[05:42] <hyperzid> anyone know how to install it.. with apt-get?
[05:42] <blekos> just about...
[05:42] <ElkOS> hutgyrr: still here?
[05:43] <digitize> hyperzid: apt-get install mplayer-586
[05:43] <hutgyrr> im using the copy command to copy a directory (cr -R). Theres 2 directorys - One is users emails, to copy this im enclosing it 'users emails'. The next directory is MARY'S EMAILS  ...
[05:43] <concept10> bob2, but I havent had any problems with the regular install.
[05:43] <blekos> vlc just plays things right...
[05:43] <blekos> better than xine
[05:43] <AnkhWeasel> I hate to say this, but it's dead serious - I had some Vegemite that expired 3 years ago, yesterday.
[05:43] <digitize> blekos: i've never experienced problems with xine
[05:43] <Seveas> mplayer has the most features
[05:43] <AnkhWeasel> ...It tasted totally, totally normal.
[05:43] <Jowi> AnkhWeasel: totem-xine can do all i need it to. including mp3/ogg/flac, DVD with subtitles, xvid, divx, mpeg... etc...
[05:43] <blekos> hmm
[05:43] <hutgyrr> How can i enclose this w/out it closing the file name after the Y and before the M???
[05:43] <AnkhWeasel> Sweet.
[05:43] <digitize> and vlc is heavily based upon mplayer, so is xine
[05:43] <blekos> i had mayb it was something with my system/conf
[05:43] <zAo^> breezy slow performance already solved?
[05:44] <elkbuntu> ankhweasel: what do you expect from something so salty
[05:44] <ElkOS> hutgyrr: escape the ' like \'
[05:44] <concept10> Breezy also correctly configured processor scaling on my laptop right-out-the-box. something I have been trying to do unsuccesfully for the last year
[05:44] <AnkhWeasel> ...Salt? >.>
[05:44] <{cYanide}> hi
[05:44] <Seveas> hutgyrr, use <tab> completion...
[05:44] <mof_> hello all
[05:44] <hutgyrr> oh ok, thanks again
[05:44] <elkbuntu> you think you'd be able to live in such a salt concentration?
[05:44] <wickedpuppy> Oetzi, if you are not sure, use livecd and find out
[05:44] <{cYanide}> erm yesturday i updated a few things using the inbuilt update feature, and now my usb modem isnt working
[05:44] <{cYanide}> it was working fine before
[05:45] <aladds> i canp;t wait for my breezy cds to arrive now
[05:45] <Seveas> aladds, you'll have to :)
[05:45] <aladds> i know
[05:45] <aladds> i like using the livecds at school ;)
[05:46] <aladds> i got three people using ubuntu full time because of the cds i handed out
[05:46] <aladds> :D
[05:46] <Jowi> {cYanide}: what do you mean by it isn't working? did you try to unplug+plug+configure it again with pppoeconf?
[05:46] <Seveas> :)
[05:46] <{cYanide}> well its not "booting"
[05:47] <{cYanide}> the driver seems to have borked,  (eagle drivers) eaglestat says its waiting for drivers, but nothing ever happens now, ive tried unplugging and all that
[05:47] <concept10> Breezy is so good, I want to slap someone
[05:47] <hyperzid> I cant find mplayer in hoary... but it exists in breezy
[05:47] <hyperzid> digitize, where can I get mplayer for hoary?
[05:47] <aladds> concept10: agreed
[05:47] <digitize> hyperzid: it's there
[05:48] <ElkOS> concept10: what's so great about it compared to hoary?
[05:48] <Seveas> concept10, noted :) http://ubuntulinux.nl/quotes?maxid=5
[05:48] <hyperzid> digitize, any special mirror I need to add to my sources list?
[05:48] <digitize> i'm not too sure which repository it'd be on
[05:48] <hyperzid> digitize, I tried to search for it.. but no luck so far.
[05:48] <concept10> Seveas, lmao
[05:48] <digitize> hyperzid: http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[05:48] <digitize> add those repositories
[05:49] <bob2> NO
[05:49] <hyperzid> okay
[05:49] <Skid> lol @ the anal sex quote
[05:49] <bob2> please don't do that
[05:49] <Seveas> NO hyperzid
[05:49] <Seveas> DO NOT
[05:49] <hyperzid> why's that?
[05:49] <Seveas> !tell digitize about ubuntuguide
[05:49] <bob2> digitize: just read wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:49] <digitize> hrmm
[05:49] <Seveas> hyperzid, they'll seriously screw you over
[05:49] <bob2> digitize: mplayer is in the multiverse repository
[05:49] <digitize> ah ok, sorry for the bad advice then
[05:49] <concept10> ElkOS, superior hardware detection, fast install, new packages, gnome 2.12, so on and so forth
[05:49] <bob2> they won't screw you in general
[05:49] <hyperzid> can anyone tell me which line I need to add then?
[05:50] <bob2> using them without knowing what you're doing is a terrible idea, tho
[05:50] <Seveas> bob2, it has backports on by default
[05:50] <hyperzid> it will just screw me if i'm unlucky?
[05:50] <hyperzid> =p
[05:50] <Seveas> we've seen enough screups with that the last days
[05:50] <aladds> hmm, since upgrading to breezy, i've noticed that "enter your password" boxes have no borded
[05:50] <bob2> hyperzid: it will screw you if you run things like 'apt-get dist-upgrade'
[05:50] <bob2> aladds: they should lock the whole screen
[05:50] <hyperzid> multiverse?
[05:51] <bob2> no, backports
[05:51] <Kernel-Kris> im having problems inserting the ndiswrapper module into the kernel.......says that the operation isnt permitted.....and im root
[05:51] <hyperzid> yeah.. sure.. thats terrible..
[05:51] <aladds> bob2: they might, i've not tried to do anything though
[05:51] <Kernel-Kris> anyone have the same problems or know how to fix
[05:52] <concept10> aladds, ive noticed that too...i thought it was this killer theme i just got
[05:52] <Seveas> Kernel-Kris: To get ndiswrapper to work, install linux-686 (intel CPU) or linux-k7 (AMD)
[05:52] <aladds> concept10, lol
[05:53] <Kernel-Kris> Seveas: why isnt that on the ubuntu forums anywhere
[05:53] <hutgyrr> im looking for a system similiar to retrospect backup software for windows. Is there anything out there
[05:53] <concept10> I promise, this theme is soooooo nice, if Ubuntu added this as default, userbase will go up 15%
[05:53] <aladds> what theme?
[05:54] <concept10> matter of fact, im going to suggest it
[05:54] <Seveas> Kernel-Kris, because the forums aren't the best source of info perhaps...
[05:54] <tombs> hi ppl
[05:54] <Kernel-Kris> Seveas: me and google have spent the last 7 hours together....and nothing.....well in english to help
[05:54] <concept10> aladds, http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=26980&file1=26980-1.png&file2=26980-2.png&file3=&name=Water+Vapor&PHPSESSID=e8e3a5b210229edb44d2f64033159d33
[05:55] <aladds> wow
[05:55] <backslash83> hi all
[05:56] <concept10> the theme is subtle, but still great
[05:56] <aladds> yeah
[05:56] <aladds> where can i get it? (i've never had success with themes in the past)
[05:56] <concept10> they could brown it out
[05:56] <axl> concept10: where du i download?
[05:57] <axl> do...
[05:57] <aladds> what jvm do people recommend?
[05:57] <concept10> gimme sec
[05:57] <blekos> is there any other program similar 2 quanta?
[05:58] <concept10> axl, aladds : theme --> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=26980
[05:59] <concept10> blekos, for web development?
[05:59] <blekos> yes
[05:59] <Jowi> blekos: nvu is ok
[05:59] <AnkhWeasel> Aw, NTFS is read-only?
[05:59] <concept10> Seveas, would it be a difficult task to get the developers to change the default theme?
[05:59] <blekos> i'm looking smg like dreamweaver...
[05:59] <martii> blekos: NVU
[06:00] <martii> blekos: but there is no direct competitor to DW
[06:00] <blekos> ok
[06:00] <cesarin> is there a way to see the programs running just like the control + alt + del of windows?
[06:00] <blekos> what is the site of nvu?
[06:00] <Seveas> concept10, you would need to convince mark :)
[06:00] <Seveas> what's the theme you're proposing?
[06:00] <bluesmoon> cesarin, maybe you want ps or top
[06:00] <backslash83> Guys, i just upgraded from hoary to breezy and i've got 2 issues: can't install mkvtoolnix (dependency problem) and some keys on my keyboard just don't work (IT layout). Can anyone help me?
[06:01] <Seveas> cesarin, apps -> system tools -> system monitor
[06:01] <AnkhWeasel> Holy crap, random Firefox glitch..
[06:01] <Jowi> blekos: http://www.nvu.com/screenshots.html
[06:01] <concept10> Seveas, http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=26980    (It could be browned)  I promise this will increase user base, people like changes .. look == update to some new guys
[06:01] <blekos> thanks
[06:01] <aladds> huh? i installed the theme and it said success, but it's not there
[06:02] <Seveas> concept10, eeek, MS marketing alert ;)
[06:02] <cesarin> ty Seveas
[06:02] <AnkhWeasel> Woah. This better work after a reboot..
[06:02] <Seveas> concept10, the font is ugly
[06:02] <Seveas> but the rest is nice
[06:02] <aladds> it says water vapour before install, does ir change?
[06:02] <aladds> *it
[06:03] <concept10> Seveas, heh. dont like?   You dont have to have that font
[06:03] <evian> hi cool ubuntu people
[06:03] <thierryl> Hello, I tried to make Rythmbox encoding mp3, even after installing gstreamer mp3 lib, it does not work and it does not seem to recognize mp3 files at all
[06:03] <aladds> clearlooks loogs good
[06:03] <Seveas> concept10, btw, I doubt Ubuntu will drop clearlooks as default, especially since clearlooks is moving to cairo already
[06:04] <evian> is cairo a display postscript like engine?
[06:04] <Kernel-Kris> Seveas: i just installed the image and it still give me the same error ....do you have a doc of some sort or any more sugestions
[06:04] <Seveas> evian, it's a vector-drawing based render engine, it's used a lot in gnome2.12 already
[06:04] <thierryl> any news about gstreamer difficulties for the moment ?
[06:04] <evian> cool
[06:05] <Seveas> Kernel-Kris, you need to reboot into it
[06:05] <concept10> Seveas, I recently red this article that shows how Cairo is really supposed to look.  Do you know what im talking about?
[06:05] <aladds> oh man, i think i need to reinstall skype
[06:05] <Kernel-Kris> Seveas: i did, should i reinstall ndiswrapper
[06:05] <adjacent> is it safe to distupgrade from hoary to breezy yet?
[06:05] <aladds> adjacent: i did it just now and it worked
[06:05] <aladds> but YMMV
[06:06] <adjacent> of course =) any benefits immediately noticable?
[06:06] <aladds> yes
[06:06] <aladds> you get a bootsplash :D:D
[06:06] <evian> I was thinking to upgrade so I could get PHP5 without bothering to compile it (since I sorta want to upgrade anyway)
[06:06] <adjacent> i dont think ive rebooted since i installed ubuntu anyway
[06:07] <adjacent> its only been a month or two
[06:07] <xerxas> anyone on breezy here ?
[06:07] <aladds> yep
[06:07] <Seveas> evian, php5 is available for hoary too
[06:07] <lorenzod> Yes.
[06:07] <Seveas> xerxas, lots :)
[06:07] <aladds> :)
[06:07] <xerxas> does anybody uses rhythmbox on breezy ?
[06:07] <evian> Seveas, oh ok I'll look again, I didn't see it
[06:07] <xerxas> rhythmbox 0.9
[06:07] <lorenzod> Been on Breezy since the day the Breezy repos opened..
[06:07] <Seveas> Kernel-Kris, hmm, sudo modprobe ndiswrapper should work, if the windows drivers are installed
[06:08] <thierryl> yes on breezy right now
[06:08] <blekos> anyone knows the application on the bottom left corner of this wallpaper?
[06:08] <thierryl> AMD 64
[06:08] <blekos> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=29430&PHPSESSID=0ce312b6ed74a728bcb4da76b946961b
[06:09] <Seveas> probably a gdesklet
[06:09] <Jowi> probably a part of gdesklets
[06:09] <adjacent> blekos: looks like a gdesklet widget
[06:09] <aladds> lol
[06:09] <mof_> blekos, its to hide windows
[06:09] <pont> !java
[06:09] <ubotu> java is, like, to install Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:09] <aladds> Openoffice.org 2!
[06:09] <aladds> :D:D
[06:09] <blekos> thnx guys
[06:10] <rikva> I want to compile my own vanilla kernel, but I _can't_ find the source on the kernel.org pub. Can anyone point me at linux-source-2.6.10.tar.bz2 ?
[06:11] <blekos> btw, if I want to shut down my pc, and I want the windows to open as i had them when I restart it what should I do?
[06:11] <blekos> e.g a text editor, a few files etc
[06:11] <Seveas> blekos, tick 'save current session' when you logout
[06:11] <evian> blekos, isn't there a checkbox for that?
[06:11] <ph8> forums back yet?
[06:11] <cyphase> i just heard a mention on a radio station that they've switched to firefox and "a new operating system"
[06:11] <cyphase> (linux?)
[06:11] <evian> oh yeah, what Seveas said
[06:12] <bob2> rikva: if the ubuntu kernel is missing something you need, please file a bug
[06:12] <blekos> i c
[06:12] <bob2> blekos: you wouldn't shut down, you'd suspend-to-disk
[06:12] <alisher> http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.10.tar.gz
[06:12] <evian> that's a different way (suspend)
[06:12] <concept10> Anyone know how to turn this on?  (Cairo) http://madpenguin.org/images/reviews/ubuntu510/compare-cairo.jpg
[06:13] <rikva> alisher: if that is the same, did they change the filenames and compression?
[06:13] <adjacent> aladds: did you just s/hoary/breezy in sources.list (no backports of course)
[06:13] <bob2> rikva: the kernel source in ubunt is significantly different to the one on kernel.org
[06:13] <bob2> concept10: if you're using breezy, you're using cairo
[06:14] <concept10> bob2, I understand that, but if you look at that shot, its a huge difference
[06:14] <rikva> bob2: I know, but even howto's on the ubuntu forums say that I need the linux-source* file
[06:14] <aladds> adjacent: i attempted http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes but it failed, so without rebooting i changed the sources from breezy-update to breezy and it worked
[06:14] <bob2> rikva: I'd ignore any howto you found on the forums
[06:14] <bob2> rikva: what are you trying to do?
[06:15] <scenestar> goddammit
[06:15] <scenestar> is there any package for automatic hardware recognition
[06:15] <rikva> bob2: compiling a vanilla kernel to get suspend2 working
[06:15] <Kernel-Kris> scenestar: please dont say that
[06:15] <alisher> rikva: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=all&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fl%2Flinux-source-2.6.10%2Flinux-source-2.6.10_2.6.10-34.6_all.deb&md5sum=475cd081d438cd0cef1263429cea99d2&arch=all&type=security
[06:15] <bob2> concept10: where do they say why they think it should look like the other window?
[06:15] <blekos> afk
[06:15] <bob2> scenestar: you already have it...
[06:15] <scenestar> which would be/
[06:15] <bob2> rikva: if suspend-to-disk doesn't work for you in ubuntu, please file a bug so it can be fixed
[06:16] <bob2> scenestar: which would be lots of things, depending on what hardware you're talking about
[06:16] <rikva> alisher: that isn't vanilla, or is it?
[06:16] <bob2> as awesome as uninformed ranting on irc is...
[06:16] <drbombay43> need help with ndiswrapper, when I run (FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686-smp/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted), please help
[06:16] <rikva> bob2: it's no bug, the patch won't apply
[06:16] <bob2> rikva: dude
[06:16] <rikva> bob2: it's a common problem
[06:16] <scenestar> well, everything works properly, except for my dual display setup
[06:16] <bob2> rikva: the ubuntu kernel includes swsusp
[06:16] <backslash83> does apt-build work with ubuntu?
[06:16] <scenestar> coffee killed my desktop
[06:16] <bob2> rikva: if it doesn't work for you, it's a bug, please report it
[06:16] <Kernel-Kris> drbombay43: hey me too
[06:16] <bob2> backslash83: as well as it would work anywhere
[06:17] <rikva> bob2: ok, I will. But since when does the ubuntu kernel include the complete swsup2 patch?
[06:17] <bob2> rikva: never
[06:17] <bob2> rikva: swsusp != swsusp2
[06:17] <drbombay43> any idea what the problem is?
[06:17] <rikva> bob2: But I want suspend2
[06:17] <bob2> rikva: why?
[06:17] <bob2> rikva: does swsusp not work for you?
[06:17] <concept10> bob2, http://madpenguin.org/cms/?m=show&id=5145&page=2  scroll down a bit they talk about cairo, if you want to be bothered with it
[06:17] <scenestar> can anyone give me a quick pointer with gdm/
[06:17] <rikva> bob2: i never used swsusp and I'm familiar with suspend2
[06:18] <backslash83> uhm just tried an apt-build install gdesklets and didn't work..
[06:18] <rikva> bob2: I'll give swsusp a try then
[06:18] <bob2> rikva: to suspend to disk on ubuntu, sudo /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh
[06:18] <bob2> scenestar: you need to ask an actual question
[06:18] <rikva> bob2: that crashes my notebook
[06:18] <bob2> backslash83: why on earth would you rebuild the gdesklets package?
[06:18] <bob2> rikva: then that's a bug that should be fixed
[06:19] <rikva> bob2: okay
[06:19] <scenestar> bob2: i have a benq fp731 lcd screen hooked onto my extra display port
[06:19] <scenestar> it works fine druing boot
[06:19] <backslash83> because every time that i try the binary package it don't work -.-
[06:19] <scenestar> but after gdm starts up it mess up
[06:19] <bob2> backslash83: "don't work" is not a useful description of the problem
[06:19] <bob2> backslash83: and why do you think rebuilding the package would help?
[06:19] <scenestar> i installed the proper nvidea drivers, but im having a hardtime configuring it
[06:19] <rikva> bob2: ehm, what is the difference between swsusp and software suspend 2, the swsusp site points to the suspend2 site
[06:20] <scenestar> should i install a diffrent xwindow server
[06:20] <scenestar> or just keep it the way it is
[06:20] <Chousuke> rikva: swsusp2 is newer?
[06:20] <bob2> rikva: the latter is not as well tested and is shinier
[06:20] <rikva> ah k
[06:20] <hemppa> apt couldn't find adobe acrobat. how i should install it? im using breezy
[06:20] <backslash83> bob2, because when i did that on gentoo it did work as intended ( every display that i needed worked) on debian/ubuntu never menaged to get that working
[06:21] <aladds> hemppa: get xpdf
[06:21] <dracflamloc> hi, where are the module options specified in ubuntu?
[06:21] <kemik> hemppa:  acroread
[06:21] <bob2> backslash83: right, so you have no reason to believe rebuilding it would help
[06:21] <bob2> dracflamloc: /etc/modprobe.d/
[06:21] <bob2> backslash83: show us the actual error you get fro mthe ubuntu package, in #flood
[06:21] <d2dchat> can using winetools advertisely affect my installation?
[06:22] <ctp6360> nothing like a shot of straight bourbon to wake yourself up!
[06:22] <backslash83> bob2, will give the package another try..
[06:22] <cesarin> do you consider the latest WINE release  to be stable?
[06:24] <d2dchat> cesarin, im noting the fact that when i prompted spm to install the winetools stuff it said that it was "not authenticated"
[06:24] <concept10> im tired of these idiot comments people make about ubuntu, I should join the marketing team
[06:25] <d2dchat> ubuntu was and is awesome:)
[06:25] <cesarin> d2dchat,  I was just wondering , nothingto do regarding the wine tools
[06:25] <d2dchat> i installed it seemlessly, fedora had troubles with my SATA hd.. isnt that weird?
[06:25] <aladds> d2dchat, ubuntu will be awsome too
[06:26] <d2dchat> aladds, haha, you mean MORE awesome?:)
[06:26] <dracflamloc> anyone know how to get a cogent EM100-FX fiber NIC to work?
[06:26] <Xorlev> d2dchat: Not really, every distro has better areas.
[06:26] <aladds> d2dchat: exactly
[06:26] <d2dchat> Xorlev, well support for SATA drives sold me:-P
[06:26] <d2dchat> Xorlev, considering SATA is a common thing in motherboards now..
[06:26] <Xorlev> Was it FC4?
[06:27] <bob2> dracflamloc: does it have a Free linux driver?
[06:27] <dracflamloc> i have no idea
[06:27] <d2dchat> no.. hehe
[06:27] <aladds> Xorlev: Frdora Core 4
[06:27] <bob2> everything with a modern kernel supports SATA
[06:27] <aladds> *Fedora
[06:27] <d2dchat> aladds, i knew what he meant:-P
[06:27] <dracflamloc> cogent went out of business a while back
[06:27] <d2dchat> Xorlev, FC3, but they insisted it would work
[06:27] <Xorlev> FC just got worse from FC1.
[06:27] <dracflamloc> never relased any windows nt/2k drivers so i'm trying to find new life for them in linux
[06:28] <d2dchat> Xorlev, ah well if i tried FC2 maybe it would've worked?;)
[06:28] <Xorlev> d2dchat: No idea, but you shouldn't find out ;)
[06:28] <Xorlev> Ubuntu == awesome
[06:28] <d2dchat> Xorlev, indeed;)
[06:29] <d2dchat> I wonder, is it possible to run two boots at the same time?
[06:29] <d2dchat> one windows boot and one linux?
[06:29] <Xorlev> Yep
[06:29] <Xorlev> I used to do it.
[06:29] <ctp6360> boot them split screen
[06:29] <d2dchat> I have a dual boot machine but
[06:29] <d2dchat> i dont know how to get windows running
[06:29] <d2dchat> and split screen
[06:29] <d2dchat> with linux
[06:29] <Xorlev> Hmmm boot at same time
[06:29] <d2dchat> yea, how?
[06:30] <Xorlev> That'd take some kind of software...no idea how.
[06:30] <d2dchat> lol, i have GRUB
[06:30] <Xorlev> Misread your question.
[06:30] <d2dchat> i dual boot Ubuntu/Windows all the time
[06:30] <Xorlev> GRUB doesn't allow simultaineous boots.
[06:30] <adjacent> vmware gsx or esx server is probably the sexiest solution d2dchat.
[06:30] <Xorlev> Agreed.
[06:30] <d2dchat> yea, i want simulatneous bootage
[06:31] <La_PaRCa> d2dchat, you would need a vitualization layer
[06:31] <Xorlev> It'd probably crash anyways because of both trying to read/write and mount drives, etc.
[06:31] <d2dchat> if i have the windows hd mounted on linux, will it prevent me from mounting it on windows?
[06:31] <La_PaRCa> d2dchat, or you can boot linux, and use something like vmware to boot windows
[06:31] <d2dchat> haha
[06:31] <Xorlev> VMware though works.
[06:32] <adjacent> a linux windows menage et tois
[06:32] <d2dchat> lol, im trying to decide if i want that
[06:32] <d2dchat> linux is so fast
[06:32] <d2dchat> if windows comes in
[06:32] <adjacent> why do you need windows at all?
[06:32] <d2dchat> Photoshop
[06:32] <d2dchat> and my mp3s;)
[06:32] <d2dchat> i dont like GIMP
[06:32] <Xorlev> mp3s play fine on Linux
[06:32] <FlyingSquirrel32> how can I print a list of my emails in evolution?
[06:32] <hutgyrr> im quite a novice so would it is there something out there easier to set-up than iptables
[06:32] <Xorlev> And you can run photoshop through crossover office.
[06:33] <evian> I just installed qemu last night and it worked as a "multiboot", although it may be slow for photoshop
[06:33] <bob2> hutgyrr: why are you trying to setup firewalling at all then?
[06:33] <d2dchat> Xorlev, I use xmms and play my mp3s off of my windows hd
[06:33] <Xorlev> hutgyrr: Use firestarter, simple GUI to iptables.
[06:33] <evian> but its free
[06:33] <d2dchat> crossover office?
[06:33] <Xorlev> d2dchat: I did that as well before killing Windows all\together.
[06:33] <hutgyrr> bob2: I dont know, do you?
[06:33] <d2dchat> Xorlev, what is crossover officE?
[06:33] <evian> yeah I wouldn't bother with windows for that
[06:33] <bob2> hutgyrr: so juts leave it alone unless you have a real reason to set one up
[06:33] <cesarin> hey , do you guys think that the current release of WINE is stable?
[06:33] <adjacent> d2dchat: http://www.alexandern.com/Photoshop_on_Linux_(how_to).html
[06:34] <jemt> Greetings. I'm looking for a graphical VT100 Terminal emulator which enables me to manage my Intel 510T switch. Does any of you know such a program? In Windows I use Hyper Terminal.
[06:34] <d2dchat> evian, haha thanks
[06:34] <Xorlev> http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxoffice/
[06:34] <bob2> jemt: minicom in an xterm
[06:34] <adjacent> jemt: uh. minicom?
[06:34] <hutgyrr> yeah, suppose
[06:34] <yunusyb> any tried running Xen on ubuntu
[06:34] <Chousuke> hm.
[06:34] <jemt> Minicom you say? Sounds interesting. 'll check it out. Thanks :)
[06:34] <cesarin> jemt,  TERMINAL SERVER?
[06:34] <evian> yunusyb I just downloaded the Xen live CD demo
[06:34] <Chousuke> do you need a separate program in an Xterm for that?
[06:35] <evian> haven't burned it yet though
[06:35] <yunusyb> have some problem while booting
[06:35] <jemt> Thanks, cesarin
[06:35] <yunusyb> Xen
[06:35] <Chousuke> can't you just set TERM=vt100?
[06:35] <adjacent> Chousuke: yes, because you are connected througha  null modem cable
[06:35] <evian> yunusyb, although I could try it out inside qemu (haha)
[06:35] <Chousuke> ah.
[06:36] <jemt> Minicom dosn't seem to be very GUI based
[06:36] <Orunitia> .
[06:36] <adjacent> jemt: vt100 isnt gui based either way, whats the difference?
[06:36] <Chousuke> run it in a GUI termianl
[06:36] <Chousuke> that's as GUI as you're going to get.
[06:36] <jemt> adjacent: Well, It's easier to set ie. baud rate
[06:36] <evian> yunusyb, why are you trying Xen, just for fun?
[06:36] <Orunitia> a
[06:37] <yunusyb> yes
[06:37] <yunusyb> have successfully ran on debian
[06:37] <adjacent> jemt: just hit ctrl a-z and set it up
[06:37] <yunusyb> but ubuntu is giving probs
[06:37] <evian> yeah I'd like to see it work too, it should be cool once the new virtualized processors come out in 2006 like the AMD pacifica
[06:37] <d2dchat> what would be better, wine or cross over office?
[06:37] <cesarin> damn, noone has answered my question :/
[06:37] <war-totem> ive searched all over and cant figure out how to add my hotmail addresses to hotway
[06:37] <war-totem> anyone have any experiences with this?
[06:37] <cesarin> evian, virtualized processors??
[06:37] <jemt> Hmm, now it says : "Device /dev/ttyS1 is locked"
[06:38] <bob2> cesarin: you could have just tried it by now, instead of asking over and over
[06:38] <cesarin> bob2: dude, I've "tried" stuff, to just get broken stuff ;)
[06:38] <cesarin> thats why I ask first :P
[06:38] <evian> well I'm not speaking precisely... processors that support virtualization in hardware
[06:38] <yunusyb> hmm
[06:39] <FlyingSquirrel32> How can I print a list of my emails from evolution?
[06:39] <bob2> cesarin: there's no possibly way that installing wine cvs into your home dir could break things
[06:41] <mindamp> which CD's shall i download if i want to be able to install without the internet?
[06:41] <evian> anyone use skype? does your sound work?
[06:41] <mindamp> i.e. apache/mysql/gnome etc install without internet access?
[06:41] <mindamp> just the single install disc?
[06:41] <mindamp> or need i download the source disks as well?
[06:41] <FlyingSquirrel32> cesarin: the stability of wine depends on the software you are trying to use with wine, not with wine itself.
[06:41] <trask> got  a freind who just installed ubuntu.. he doesnt have his root pw.. how do we get that?
[06:41] <cesarin> FlyingSquirrel32,  good explanation
[06:42] <bob2> mindamp: source disks? where?
[06:42] <adjacent> trask: you dont. use sudo and the userpasswd
[06:42] <cesarin> btw, Im just triying to install games, so CEDEGA is more prefered than WINE?
[06:42] <evian> trask, he doesn't have one, see the wiki etc.
[06:42] <adjacent> trask: or sudo -s to get a root shell
[06:42] <trask> adjacent: ok tnx
[06:42] <Orunitia> cesarin yeah cedega will work better for games
[06:43] <Orunitia> cesarin you should check cedega's website for compatible games
[06:43] <FlyingSquirrel32> cesarin: absolutely. Which games?
[06:43] <mindamp> what do i need to download if i want to do an offline install?
[06:43] <cesarin> counter strike source & stuff
[06:43] <evian> cesarin, cedega's old name was winex
[06:43] <aladds> mindame: the install iso
[06:43] <aladds> .
[06:43] <cesarin> I supose CEDEGA is a comercial program, im just cheking the website
[06:43] <evian> sorta complementary
[06:43] <aladds> *mindamp
[06:43] <evian> yes, commercial
[06:44] <cesarin> but it can be installed into ubuntu?
[06:44] <evian> I imagine that's why they changed the name
[06:44] <cesarin> using .deb package I supose?
[06:44] <aladds> g2g
[06:44] <FlyingSquirrel32> cesarin: well, counter-strike will definitly work with cedega, haven't done it but I beleive it works very well.
[06:44] <evian> cesarin, think so
[06:44] <evian> cesarin, they have some sort of monthly updating service for cedega
[06:45] <cesarin> FlyingSquirrel32,  Might try my amule ;P
[06:45] <abarbaccia> do breezy-extra repos exist yet?
[06:45] <FlyingSquirrel32> cesarin: You can join for a min. 3 months, pay $15 ($5 per month) and then quit.
[06:45] <evian> does anyone use skype?
[06:45] <cesarin> FlyingSquirrel32,  problem is im not in the US, and my paypal stoped accepting credit cards from my bank :/
[06:46] <linukso> Does anyone else have a problem with evolution in hoary? It won't accept unsigned certificates (imap) permanently...
[06:46] <evian> cesarin, if you want to check it out, and you come across a linspire CD, they have it preinstalled (cedega), I think
[06:47] <cesarin> evian,  and what is linspire ?
[06:47] <jemt_> Back. MiniCom is an excelent VT100 Terminal. But how do I disable Flow Control ?
[06:47] <jemt_> I can setup baud rate, parity, data bits and stop bit. But not flow control
[06:47] <evian> a commercial debian based distribution with a lot of stuff pre-installed, although of course I prefer ubuntu
[06:48] <Chousuke> Linspire runs as root by default.
[06:48] <kemik> ouch
[06:48] <cesarin> evian, ic.. but since im not very professional into linux, I prefer something free I can uninstall, trash and do stuff :P
[06:48] <adjacent> jemt: ctrl-a-o, serial port setup
[06:48] <evian> (well its not really debian anymore)
[06:48] <kemik> Chousuke:  that will mess up a few newbieusers im sure :)
[06:48] <Chousuke> kemik: it's just more windowsy
[06:49] <fredforfaen> have a prob here......as many of you know switch2 work very vell in ubuntu...but i havent got switch to work , i can choose the theme , and preveiw the theme but not enable it...any ideas?
[06:49] <kemik> Chousuke:  even windows is moving away form using the Admin acct as default
[06:49] <Chousuke> Quite unsuccessfully, if you ask me :P
[06:49] <Chousuke> It's easier, but idiotic.
[06:49] <cesarin> I dont know why I have the fears that microsoft will never stop eating other companie,s and thus ending in something similar to UMBRELLA corp
[06:49] <Chousuke> running as admin that is.
[06:49] <cesarin> controlling entire governaments :P
[06:49] <evian> yeah too bad Cedega isn't free, but I imagine it is an insane amount of work
[06:50] <kemik> Chousuke:  in windows, i'm always admin... there's no security inwindows anyway so idont care ;)
[06:50] <kemik> but Vista seem to be embracing a whole new security-mindset
[06:50] <Chousuke> kemik: MS only want to make you believe that.
[06:51] <Chousuke> remember, they have the world's absolute best PR department.
[06:51] <fredforfaen> anyone?
[06:51] <jemt> Hi again. How do I determine which serial port I'm using on my computer? If i execute 'dir /dev/tty*
[06:52] <jemt> Hi again. How do I determine which serial port I'm using on my computer? If i execute 'dir /dev/tty*' I get a very long list of ports.
[06:52] <SuperNinjaKitty> Chousuke c'mon Bill loves us and only wants what is best for us
[06:52] <cesarin> kemik: you're wrong.. in windows.. YOU're GOD :O
[06:52] <adjacent> kemik: by embracing a new mindset do you mean dumping old code and having to start fresh?
[06:52] <cesarin> except when the kernel plays as satan:P
[06:52] <darksatanic> jemt: Serial ports are ttyS*, which may cut things down a bit.
[06:52] <jemt> darksatanic: There are still alot of them
[06:52] <adjacent> jemt: /dev/ttyS0 is com1, S1 is com2, etc
[06:53] <jemt> adjacent: Ok, cool. Thanks
[06:53] <darksatanic> Typically, ttyS0 and ttyS1 are the ones on the motherboard
[06:53] <jemt> darksatanic: Ok, good. I'll try those
[06:53] <kemik> adjacent:  i very much doubt they've started from scratch ;)
[06:53] <Chousuke> cesarin: So in realyty, your influence is pretty limited. :p
[06:53] <Chousuke> reality*
[06:54] <adjacent> kemik: do you read WSJ?
[06:54] <kemik> adjacent:  noe
[06:54] <jemt> Wohoo, I got access to my Intel 510T switch. Thanks alot guys!
[06:55] <adjacent> kemik: go pick up a copy of last week's issue. =) allchin says they dropped everything and had to restart
[06:55] <kemik> adjacent:  really? not re-using any code? that seems hardcore
[06:56] <kemik> ofcourse... it's doable, especially with their resources i guess
[06:56] <cesarin> kemik: the power of smutt is unstopable :O
[06:56] <phizz-> has anyone managed to get the netgear wg111v2 (vend/prod:0846/6a00) working under linux?
[06:56] <adjacent> kemik: its all over the news now, you should google it. very interesting
[06:56] <NSK> hi
[06:56] <meez> Hello, can anyone direct me to any easy ways to point to a group of screenshots and turn them into an avi (game movie making stuff)? I can't seem to find anything fitting :\
[06:57] <phizz-> talking about vista?
[06:57] <phizz-> I read last night that they scraped everything and started over
[06:58] <kemik> adjacent:  ahh, read  of that article yesterday.. didnt notice they actually did scrap the code
[06:58] <phizz-> yeah
[06:58] <phizz-> they are starting with a fresh base
[06:59] <The_Vox> at least that's what they said :)
[06:59] <trask> isnt there a sshd default installed on ubuntu?.. and if not what alternative is there?
[06:59] <phizz-> and build onto that, instead of each team doing their own thing and then trying to compile it all together at the end
[06:59] <phizz-> yeah, that's what they said anyway
[06:59] <phizz-> I'm still skeptical of vista
[07:00] <SuperNinjaKitty> phizz you should be
[07:00] <phizz-> I'm trying to go linux only but I can't get my wireless adapter working. apparently it's one of those that doesn't have a proper driver yet.
[07:00] <The_Vox> trask: openssh is what comes with ubuntu, but I don't remember if it gets installed by default. As for alternatives...there's only two alternatives worth considering: openssh and the commercial ssh....and I wouldn't pay for the commercial version
[07:01] <Rockett18> i dont think it is installed by default
[07:01] <backslash83> anyone experienced some problems with international keys with breezy?
[07:01] <Rockett18> pretty sure I had to install my openssh
[07:01] <trask> The_Vox: ty.. think thats the line we needed :)
[07:01] <SuperNinjaKitty> phizz i wish i could help you with your wireless issue
[07:01] <tritium> Rockett18: if you mena the server, you're correct
[07:01] <tritium> s/mena/mean
[07:02] <phizz-> it's alright
[07:02] <phizz-> anyone used ndiswrapper before?
[07:04] <FlyingSquirrel32> How can I print a list of my emails from evolution?
[07:05] <Arkainium> tritium, remember I was telling you about not being able to suspend/resume more than once?
[07:06] <tritium> Arkainium: yes.
[07:07] <FlyingSquirrel32> What is the smoothest way to upgrade my Warty machine to breezy?
[07:07] <tritium> FlyingSquirrel32: see the topic
[07:07] <tritium> Arkainium: do you have news or more details?
[07:08] <FlyingSquirrel32> tritium: Thanks.
[07:08] <Arkainium> tritium, well, I think I narrowed it down to an ide problem.  I was getting hdc errors in my log when the system was locking up.  so I tried removing the modules for all the cd related stuff.  not I can suspend/resume fine but now if I try suspending on the THIRD time, I get hdc: lost interrupt, even though I don't have an hdc device because I removed the modules.  In other words, I have no clue.  :)
[07:08] <djfm> hi
[07:08] <tritium> Arkainium: that's unusual
[07:09] <djfm> is there a graphical utility to set applications to use for each file type ?
[07:09] <djfm> *the apps
[07:10] <djfm> I rightclicked and selected "open with other application" but I'd like to remove the entry created in the menu now
[07:11] <Arkainium> tritium, and once I do start getting those hdc: lost interrupts scrolling down my screen, I can't do anything.  The system doesn't lock up or anything, because I can still change ttys, but I can't type anything.
[07:11] <rikva> bob2: does swsusp support suspend-to-disk (and then shutting down, and when booting the kernel, the saved image loads)?
[07:11] <meez> Keep getting 'File not found: 'frameno.avi'' error whenever I try to encode with mencoder using a method defined in the manual, also, 'Exiting... (error parsing command line)'... any ideas? :\
[07:12] <kamiro87> hello. does anyone know how to set up dual monitors in ubuntu?
[07:13] <tritium> rikva: you can suspend-to-disk (hibernate)
[07:13] <hou5ton> kamiro87:  If you have the card I do in this laptop, it ain't happening.   ATI Mobility Radeon 9700
[07:13] <Nikopol_showerin> Anyone got LIRC setup correctly?
[07:14] <Nikopol> for some reason the /dev/lirc isn't there
[07:14] <Nikopol> but LIRC is working kind of
[07:15] <hou5ton> kamiro87:  ATI's .... last time I checked as was trying to do it ....just aren't linux friendly .... certainly not for dual monitors
[07:15] <Nikopol> linmaster, not a bad time anywya
[07:15] <Nikopol> oops meant for linukso
[07:15] <quintroman_> i'm having trouble installing ubuntu on my compaq presario 2500, everything freezes as soon as i boot off of the disk.  any suggestions?
[07:15] <bob2> rikva: that's all it does, yes
[07:15] <rikva> tritium: I know :)
[07:15] <tritium> rikva: then why did you ask?
[07:16] <rikva> bob2: okay
[07:16] <Nikopol> !lirc
[07:16] <ubotu> Nikopol: I haven't a clue
[07:16] <Nikopol> !infra red
[07:16] <ubotu> Nikopol: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[07:16] <Nikopol> !infrared
[07:16] <ubotu> Nikopol: I give up, what is it?
[07:16] <tritium> kamiro87: with nvidia, you can setup TwinView
[07:17] <linukso> Nikopol: do you know if there is an official list of bugs in breezy?
[07:18] <Nikopol> linukso, I haven't come across it
[07:18] <Nikopol> linukso, you under Hoary now?
[07:18] <linukso> Nikopol: yes.
[07:18] <rikva> tritium: Sorry, I was confused
[07:18] <Nikopol> linukso, actually if you're thinking of upgrading from Hoary to Breezy things can be rocky
[07:19] <linukso> Nikopol: but I run breezy on two other computer, but not on my laptop ...
[07:19] <Nikopol> linukso, I did a fresh re-install as it was slooooow
[07:19] <linukso> Nikopol: disp-upgrade on the other two machines haven't given me any problems.
[07:19] <Nikopol> linukso, ah - so you could sort it out if X.org does a runner on you ?
[07:19] <Nikopol> linukso, well there are still some minor bugs being ironed out
[07:20] <Nikopol> linukso, hey you should be fine then ;)
[07:20] <linukso> so xorg.conf is my friend :D
[07:20] <Nikopol> linukso, you using NVIdia or ATI on the laptop?
[07:20] <linukso> nvidia
[07:21] <Nikopol> should be ok now
[07:21] <cesarin> http://www.tomshardware.com/game/20050922/lost_coast-05.html <-- why steam's server sometimes suck lol
[07:21] <cesarin> anyway laters :>
[07:21] <Nikopol> linukso, I filed quite a few bugs with the Nividia driver but now it seems sorted
[07:22] <linukso> great!
[07:22] <Nikopol> linukso, well it's worked on all the machines I've tried it on ;)
[07:22] <meez> how to specify width/height with mencoder -ovc raw??
[07:23] <lorenzod> Could somebody tell me what the default icon theme for Breezy is?
[07:23] <kamiro87> anyone know how to set up 2 videocards in linux
[07:23] <kamiro87> ?
[07:23] <lorenzod> That is if you install ubuntu-desktop..
[07:24] <linukso> kamiro87: take a look at xinerama in the wiki
[07:24] <kamiro87> thankyou
[07:27] <linukso> anyone here using evolution 2.2 and their own imap server?
[07:28] <lorenzod> Speaking of IMAP, anybody played around with Hula?
[07:31] <poningru> ubotu: xinerama
[07:31] <ubotu> poningru: I haven't a clue
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> wowsers
[07:36] <Mpi> Can somebody explain me how to copy files to the write-protected Mozilla-Firefox folder? Im a newb, so please explain it in newb language :)
[07:36] <poningru> Mpi: go to applications
[07:36] <devios> anyone know how to get streaming audio from krock2.com ? it's telling me windowze only
[07:36] <ilangut> anyone here a vegastrike player... need help setting things up
[07:36] <poningru> system tools
[07:37] <Kernel-Kris> Mpi: or sudo cp source destination
[07:37] <poningru> Mpi: click on Terminal
[07:37] <Mpi> yes
[07:37] <poningru> Mpi: type in sudo Nautilus
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> Hmm why would the folder be write protected?
[07:37] <delvit> hello
[07:37] <poningru> woah
[07:37] <[LethAL] > :|
[07:38] <delvit> please why is 5.10 still have status of preview realease?
[07:38] <Seveas> hehe
[07:38] <poningru> delvit: because its not released yet
[07:38] <[LethAL] > delvit, because it's not finished
[07:38] <Seveas> netsplit return :)
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:38] <poningru> wait till oct 13
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> becuse thats what it is.
[07:38] <[LethAL] > Dr_Willis, your answer wins ;)
[07:38] <Rockett18> hmmm nice split
[07:38] <poningru> Mpi: you there yet?
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> last i looked - it was averagind about 100+mb of updates a day
[07:38] <ilangut> anyone succesfully running vegastrike on ubuntu?
[07:39] <delvit> poningru, [LethAL]  : thank you
[07:39] <Mpi> poningru, Yes. So now I can 'write' as root...
[07:39] <delvit> what are the main unfinished parts?
[07:39] <poningru> Mpi: yeah
[07:39] <delvit> is there a part vital to desktop system?
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> delvit,  its all finished and works good... but theres issues at times.
[07:40] <poningru> delvit: its all polish thats going on right now
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> im using 5.10 on my TUrion64 laptop - it works very well.
[07:40] <delvit> ok ... like beta release
[07:40] <delvit> hitches
[07:40] <delvit> there
[07:40] <poningru> delvit: right
[07:40] <delvit> uhmm thank you
[07:40] <Mpi> poningru, Great! This wasnt as tough as I thought :D
[07:40] <poningru> Mpi: hehe
[07:40] <Kernel-Kris> guys i cant get ndiswrapper to work for anything
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> but last week - some of the updates killed it.. then next batch of updates fixed it back.. :P
[07:40] <zeke1> can anybody help me with my network in ubuntu
[07:40] <Mpi> poningru, thanks
[07:40] <poningru> np
[07:40] <[LethAL] > zeke1, Wired or Wireless?
[07:40] <poningru> Kernel-Kris: whats wrong?
[07:41] <zeke1> [LethAL] : wired
[07:41] <poningru> Mpi: be extremely carefull
[07:41] <Kernel-Kris> poningru: when i go to insert the module i get operation not permitted
[07:41] <poningru> because you can mess up the system files this way
[07:41] <[LethAL] > zekel, then I'm not the person to talk to. I've never used one
[07:41] <zeke1> right
[07:41] <Jowi> zeke1: what's the problem?
[07:41] <zeke1> so anybody else good with networks in ubuntu
[07:41] <zeke1> ok
[07:41] <ilangut> anyone succesfully running vegastrike on ubuntu?
[07:41] <poningru> Kernel-Kris: couple of questions how did you install the thing?
[07:41] <zeke1> Jowi: ubuntu cant even see my NIC's
[07:42] <Mpi> poningru, Yes I know. I just need to copy my old Firefox files to this one...
[07:42] <poningru> Mpi: you dont need root for that
[07:42] <Kernel-Kris> poningru: compiled from source
[07:42] <zeke1> Jowi: i have 2 onboard cards
[07:42] <Jowi> zeke1: ouch. none of them?
[07:42] <poningru> Kernel-Kris: dude just use apt
[07:42] <Mpi> poningru, Well it says I cant copy. Only the owner (root) can...
[07:42] <Kernel-Kris> poningru: tried that first
[07:42] <zeke1> Jowi: Nno but i had to remove hotplug to gewt ubuntu to boot
[07:42] <poningru> Mpi: what did you try to copy?
[07:43] <poningru> Mpi: was it the profile folder?
[07:43] <poningru> Mpi: like .mozilla?
[07:43] <delvit> hmm is there a 686 iso?
[07:43] <adjacent> well, breezy upgrade didnt go exactly as planned... Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed';
[07:43] <poningru> Kernel-Kris: what happend when you did that?
[07:43] <Jowi> zeke1: hotplug loads the nic drivers and configure them so you will have to load the modules manually
[07:43] <delvit> of  Breezy Badger?
[07:43] <adjacent> thats after switching xorg.conf from nvidia to nv, because it whined about not having nvidia
[07:43] <zeke1> Jowi: yeah so any idea how i do that
[07:43] <Mpi> poningru, bookmarks etc from a .pcv (mozbackup)
[07:44] <poningru> delvit: you are supposed to switch to that kernel from apt
[07:44] <poningru> Mpi: oh ic
[07:44] <Kernel-Kris> poningru: i get the driver installed and when i go to insert the module to the kernel i get the operation not permitted.........same when i compile it myself
[07:44] <elmago> hi guys
[07:44] <Jowi> zeke1: you load the modules by putting them in /etc/modules
[07:44] <delvit> poningru: aha ok :)).  Any kernel compilation needed?
[07:44] <poningru> Mpi: can you go to #firefox in irc.mozilla.org
[07:44] <Jowi> zeke1: but you must, of course, know which modules your nics need.
[07:44] <elmago> i want to add the breezy packets to my source list
[07:44] <poningru> delvit: no just find the kernel package in synaptic
[07:45] <cesarin> !ati
[07:45] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[07:45] <delvit> poningru: ah, pitty :)) thank you
[07:45] <Mpi> poningru, Yes. This, however, was a root/sude thing..:)
[07:45] <zeke1> Jowi: so what would i need to put in there....i have a realtek and a marvel 1GBit lan onboard on an nvidia nforce 4
[07:45] <poningru> Mpi: try it but be careful
[07:45] <poningru> Kernel-Kris: you sure you in root?
[07:45] <poningru> err sudo?
[07:45] <Kernel-Kris> yes
[07:45] <Mpi> poningru, all though I do need to know how to get mozbackup to work on ubuntu some day
[07:45] <Kernel-Kris> poningru: yes
[07:45] <elmago> is there any risk of using them
[07:46] <Jowi> zeke1: depends on the realtek version. wait
[07:46] <poningru> elmago: I would use backports
[07:46] <backslash83> guys is there naything i can do to fix an error in XKB when i try to change layout of my keyboard? it work fine in console, but in X i cannot use any international key and alt gr
[07:46] <vladuz976> where do i set the variable for my default editor?
[07:46] <poningru> Kernel-Kris: hmm
[07:47] <poningru> Kernel-Kris: I remember couple of people having this prob
[07:47] <elmago> i have already the backports
[07:47] <zeke1> Jowi: ok
[07:47] <poningru> dont remember how the guy solved it
[07:47] <Kernel-Kris> poningru: ive spent many hours searching and cant find it anywhere
[07:47] <poningru> elmago: thats the breazy packages
[07:47] <ElkOS> vladuz976: export EDITOR=emacs ; alias emacs='emacs -nw'
[07:47] <poningru> Kernel-Kris: hold on let me go look
[07:47] <Centinel> When I try to install nvidia graphic driver I get the message "Error: Nvidia driver must be run as root". How do I fix that? And note, Im a newbie so please answer so I understand ;)
[07:47] <cowbud> are there some 3rd party good java debs I have been searching left and right through the ubuntu pages and have only found broken links or old information
[07:47] <Kernel-Kris> poningru: thanks a million
[07:48] <elmago> oh thx
[07:48] <cesarin> hey guys, Im on breezy, you guys recommend me to install FGLRX over the default ATI driver?
[07:48] <vladuz976> ElkOS, that is only for this session, right?
[07:49] <ElkOS> right
[07:49] <vladuz976> ElkOS, what if i wanna change it for good
[07:49] <cesarin> because the fglrx's howto on wiki says "ATI driver version 8.12.10 is available in breezy, which should fix this problem + have a decent performance improvement."
[07:49] <poningru> Kernel-Kris: whats the error you are getting?
[07:49] <adjacent> ubotu tell adjacent about nvidia
[07:49] <ElkOS> vladuz976: put that in /etc/profile
[07:49] <poningru> Kernel-Kris: /msg it to me
[07:49] <Kernel-Kris> poningru: how do you do that?
[07:49] <cesarin> but to be honest, running cheap FPS tests like glgears eats all my cpu, and just does random fps, from 5 fps, to 400 fps
[07:49] <kemik> cesarin:  dare i grab the breezy fglrx and run on hoary ?
[07:49] <poningru> when you tried to load ndiswrapper
[07:50] <kemik> cesarin:  must be a crappy cpu thne =)
[07:50] <WhiteRabbit> ati drivers on linux blow
[07:50] <poningru> what steps did you take to install ndiswrapper?
[07:50] <WhiteRabbit> you want decent rendering on linux *whispers* Nvidia!
[07:50] <seth_k> WhiteRabbit++
[07:50] <WhiteRabbit> btw ati makes nice hardware
[07:50] <WhiteRabbit> :)~
[07:50] <poningru> !tell Kernel-Kris about wireless
[07:50] <vladuz976> ElkOS, put that line under "export PATH" in /etc/profile ?
[07:50] <zeke1> Jowi: so any idea what i should do yet
[07:50] <Jowi> zeke1: you get a list of all the net modules by running: modprobe -l | grep net
[07:50] <poningru> make sure you visit that site
[07:51] <zeke1> ok
[07:51] <poningru> Kernel-Kris: make sure you follow that instructions
[07:51] <poningru> Kernel-Kris: actually go here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[07:51] <Jowi> zeke1: you must find out what modules you need for your hardware. i can not know that since I do not have your hardware :) check the output that you get from the last command and see if anything seems remotely close to what you want.
[07:51] <zeke1> Jowi: then how do i enter hese into /etc/module
[07:52] <cesarin> kemik:im on athlon 3000+ @ 2.25 Ghz
[07:52] <ElkOS> vladuz976: echo export EDITOR=emacs ; alias emacs='emacs -nw' | tee -a /etc/profile, or use your favorite editor to add that line, re-login and you're set :)
[07:52] <cesarin> so its not my computer
[07:52] <zeke1> Jowi: or how di choose the ones i want and get it to work? :)
[07:52] <kemik> cesarin:  then there's something wrong ... cus glxgears shouldnt be that erratic
[07:52] <Jowi> zeke1: lets say you have realtek 8139too nic. just type in "8139too" last in your /etc/modules file
[07:52] <cesarin> kemik: thats what I wonder :P
[07:52] <cesarin> I might try the FGLRX drivers tought
[07:53] <cesarin> Im using atm the defualt Breezy's "ATI"
[07:53] <kemik> oh
[07:53] <cesarin> so brb
[07:53] <kemik> you need the fglrx
[07:53] <zeke1> ok cool thanks Jowi...will bw back have to reboot
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> i got the fglrx working on my COmpatq V2311 with X200 video  :P
[07:53] <Jowi> zeke1: to see if that IS the one. you can try right now just by typing: modprobe 8139too
[07:53] <Jowi> zeke1: no errors = success
[07:53] <WhiteRabbit> Dr_Willis, I like how you said I got them working lol
[07:53] <WhiteRabbit> :D
[07:53] <zeke1> Jowi: i am in windows now...i am dual booting
[07:54] <Jowi> zeke1: ah
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> WhiteRabbit,  amazing too.. i just followed the wiki/guide. :P
[07:54] <WhiteRabbit> lol
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> i was even more amzzed that it DID work
[07:54] <zeke1> Jowi: will be backs
[07:54] <WhiteRabbit> Dr_Willis, only in Linux Land
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> this laptop and linux does not get along.. but with 5.10 - its finially behaving.
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> i still need to test out the wireless however.
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> if that works - then it will be about 95% working. -  a little apci issue here and there still.
[07:55] <WhiteRabbit> Dr_Willis, some distros are just another cigarette but ubuntu is a cigar
[07:55] <WhiteRabbit> Dr_Willis, thats why the defeat theme we choose brown
[07:56] <WhiteRabbit> for the color of a fine cigar!
[07:56] <renjii> WhiteRabbit - in which case, gentoo is the cigar rolled for castro by CUban Freedom fighters
[07:56] <WhiteRabbit> renjii, che che!
[07:56] <WhiteRabbit> lol
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> an official "Monica Brand Cigar"
[07:57] <Kernel-Kris> poningru: ok when i do an iwconfig i get an eth1 with wireless extensions.......but there is no loaded driver
[07:57] <poningru> Kernel-Kris: did you load the drivers?
[07:57] <Kensey> Wow, place is jumping.
[07:58] <Kensey> anybody here successfully using Ubuntu with a Ralink rt2500usb card, esp. using WPA-PSK?
[07:59] <Pluk> as far as i know wpa_supplicant doesnt support ralink yet
[07:59] <Pluk> so your out of luck
[07:59] <Kensey> is there any way to configure WPA without using wpa_supplicant?
[07:59] <Kensey> even if not, the wireless card is still useful to me when traveling -- our WLAN at work only uses WEP
[08:00] <WhiteRabbit> Kensey, we are like the happy hour bar here 25/8
[08:00] <icewt> err.. i just managed to destroy my .bash_profile , is there a way to get a default ubuntu .bash_profile somewhere with all the nice colours etc.?
[08:00] <WhiteRabbit> Kensey, before you ask leap year humor!
[08:00] <adjacent> im sorry if someone has answered this already, but im not sure how irssi handles scrolling =) xorg will not load nvidia after a breezy upgrade. switching back down to nv gives an error about not being able to open the default font 'fixed'
[08:00] <Pluk> icewt, check the one in /etc/skel
[08:01] <Pluk> euh /etc/skel.bashrc
[08:01] <Pluk> darn
[08:01] <Pluk> my typing sux! /etc/skel/.bashrc
[08:01] <Kensey> what I get is, the Windows 98 drivers don't see the card using NDISwrapper, the serialmonkey rt2500usb (rt2570) locks the system because it isn't preempt-safe, and the experimental rt2x00 driver that is supposed to be preempt-safe won't compile -- I think I'm missing something, but no idea what.
[08:01] <Pluk> copy that one and set the permissions right
[08:01] <poningru> Kensey: there is the old waproamd but thats not recommended
[08:01] <poningru> http://0pointer.de/lennart/projects/waproamd/
[08:02] <brlancer> how do I change the priorities of /etc/alternatives after they're set up?
[08:02] <zAo^> $ renice PID
[08:02] <icewt> Pluk, there seems to be also .bash_profile, but .bashrc is the one to use?
[08:02] <Kensey> they are both used icewt
[08:03] <Kensey> IIRC .bashrc calls .bash_profile
[08:03] <Pluk> icewt, sorry .bash_profile i the one
[08:03] <Pluk> is*
[08:03] <icewt> ok. thanks to you both :)
[08:04] <ilangut> anyone succesfully running vegastrike on ubuntu?
[08:04] <Kensey> I do wish there were a more realistic hard drive space estimate -- I have a 2.0 GB partition for Ubuntu and the default install choked and died after filling it up
[08:05] <devios> anyone know how to get streaming audio from krock2.com ? it's telling me windowze only.  is there a way I can play this stuff with ubuntu?
[08:05] <Kensey> I did a server install and apt-get'ed ubuntu-desktop or whatever and a couple other things, and that fully installed and left me about 500 MB free space
[08:05] <cesarin> well it works now :o
[08:05] <cesarin> thanks for the help again :P
[08:06] <Kensey> oh, well it looks like you can't actually associate with rt2xoo yet anyway, so *that's* no good
[08:06] <poningru> ilangut: dude how did you try to install vegastrike?
[08:06] <poningru> compile or apt?
[08:06] <ilangut> both
[08:06] <ilangut> and the loki installer
[08:07] <zeke1> Jowi: Hi i got one nic to work with modprobe...it was 8139too...how do i get the other one...its a mervel to work...i cant seem to find its device
[08:07] <xukun> hi all
[08:07] <Jowi> zeke1: what is the exact name of the card?
[08:08] <poningru> ilangut: hmm
[08:08] <ilangut> poningru: it fails after a long loding time
[08:08] <zeke1> Jowi: Marvell 8053 Gigabit Ethernet controller
[08:08] <Jowi> zeke1: hang on
[08:08] <zeke1> Jowi: cool
[08:09] <Kensey> hm... Ralink linux drivers.
[08:09] <poningru> ilangut: when you install using apt does it do the same thing?
[08:09] <hyperzid> how do I get xmms to work with the esd deamon?
[08:09] <poningru> also what vid card are you using?
[08:10] <xukun> I need to hear sound from my usb headset but instead it comes from my lapts boxes. Where can I change this?
[08:10] <AstralJava> Kensey: I've succesesfully compiled the rt2x00 drivers, but they're still somewhat flaky. At least were a month ago when I last tried them. This is a PCI card, though, not USB as you wanted.
[08:10] <Jowi> zeke1: sk98lin seems to be the one
[08:11] <zeke1> Jowi: ok after I've added these to /etc/module how do i set up the network and my adsl
[08:11] <Jowi> zeke1: wait, still doublechecking the Marvell nic
[08:11] <zeke1> Jowi: cool np
[08:11] <Kensey> AstralJava: I think I'm going to try the Ralink-supplied drivers, if they don't work I suppose I'll be recompiling my kernel with preempt disabled...
[08:11] <ilangut> yep... segmentation fault
[08:12] <AstralJava> Kensey: Would you mind posting to the Ubuntu-users mailing list about how it went?
[08:13] <AstralJava> Kensey: There was another guy asking about those same cards as well, or at least cards that used the same chip.
[08:13] <linner> hey ya'll
[08:13] <ilangut> i have a geforce4-mx400
[08:13] <linner> tell me something... why is my clock off everytime I reboot?
[08:13] <Jowi> zeke1: seems like sk98lin is what you want but i am not 100% sure. modprobe sk98lin to see if you get any errors. is the dsl modem connected through usb or eth?
[08:13] <linner> I mean REALLY off
[08:13] <pr0tocol> suuup everyone
[08:14] <xukun> can anybody please help with my new usb headset. sounds comes only from the boxes but not from the headset
[08:15] <Kensey> Astral: I will probably do so later this week :)
[08:15] <AstralJava> linner: Are minutes also off, or just hours? Are you utilizing a dual boot machine, and if so, is the other OS a Windows?
[08:15] <AstralJava> Kensey: Thanks a bunch!
[08:15] <Kensey> yep, no trouble
[08:15] <Kensey> so far I'm really liking Ubuntu
[08:15] <pr0tocol> hey guys, how can I completely remove gtk-qt engine?
[08:15] <xukun> with cat /proc/asound/cards I see the headset but I,m not hearing any sound
[08:15] <AstralJava> Kensey: No wonder, I fell in love with it too during the first two hours. :)
[08:16] <pr0tocol> I removed KDE and all, but my gnome panels aren't using the GTK thingy
[08:16] <havoc> is there a why to update gnome/kde menus after a package (e.g. xawtv) is installed?
[08:16] <havoc> s/why/way/
[08:16] <Kensey> it kinda reminds me of what Ximian used to look like back around 2000, as far as catering to the user, but without the hordes of gunk that cluttered up the configuration in Ximian
[08:17] <Kensey> the other thing I didn't like about Ximian was how it took over a zillion packages -- once you had it, you couldn't really use the stock Debian archives any more
[08:18] <Kensey> havoc: that's a tricky issue on any distro.  What do you want to do, just add a menu item manually, or have it added automatically?
[08:18] <Jowi> zeke1: after the nics are ready try to run network-admin to set up the network. to set up the conneciton with your dsl you probably should run pppoeconf if you want to let linux handle the conneciton. if porrisble, set up the connection in the modem instead and connect it to one of the nics. that's a very general answer i'm afraid since i let my router do all the heavy lifting :)
[08:18] <havoc> Kensey: auto, I already know how to do it manually
[08:19] <havoc> Kensey: I want to know if there's something like mandrake's update-menus
[08:19] <Jowi> porrisble = possible
[08:19] <havoc> which updates both gnome and kde menus based on installed packages
[08:19] <havoc> if not it's no big deal
[08:20] <linner> does anyone know about keeping the clock correct?
[08:20] <havoc> linner: use ntp?
[08:20] <linner> what is ntp havoc
[08:20] <havoc> linner: Network Time Protocol
[08:20] <havoc> linner: you run ntpd to keep time synced
[08:20] <linner> i think so
[08:20] <Kensey> it looks like updating menus requires action from the package
[08:21] <havoc> Kensey: ok, thanx
[08:21] <Kensey> http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8278 about 3-4 screens from the bottom
[08:22] <linner> it's in the "adjust time and date" right?
[08:22] <Kensey> "However, all of the packages in the Ubuntu base system are good about putting launchers in the menu, so the typical Ubuntu user does not need a menu editor.... If you want to use the universe packages, I suggest you set up the Debian menus. The universe packages may not add menu entries to the GNOME desktop menu, but they almost always add entries to the Debian menu."
[08:22] <linner> havoc: i can't get hte adjust time date to come up
[08:22] <havoc> Kensey: that would explain it, xawtv is in universe
[08:22] <Kensey> there you are then
[08:23] <havoc> linner: sorry, I can't be of help then :(
[08:23] <linner> havoc: ok... np
[08:23] <Kensey> somebody should write a utility to update the GNOME menus from the Debian menus for Ubuntu :)
[08:23] <apsync> hi, about the ntfs script... http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab ... is what language is that written, bash?
[08:24] <Kyral> Its called installing the menu package :P
[08:24] <AstralJava> linner: What happens when you right-click on the clock and choose Adjust date & time ?
[08:24] <havoc> Kensey: any idea who I use "debian menus"?
[08:24] <havoc> s/who/how/
[08:24] <linner> AstralJava: absolutely nothing
[08:24] <Kyral> havoc install the package menu
[08:24] <havoc> Kyral: thanx :)
[08:24] <butcherbird> apsync, bash yes
[08:24] <Kensey> what exactly does the menu package do?
[08:25] <Kyral> Creates the "Debian" menu in the GNOME Menus
[08:25] <apsync> ok thanks
[08:25] <havoc> I'm using KDE actually
[08:25] <Kensey> ah, so it just gloms the Debian menu structure on as a GNOME menu.  cool.
[08:25] <Kyral> I think it works in KDE as well
[08:25] <ui> why i cant hear any sound of flash in firefox?
[08:25] <B_166-ER-X> i have been able to reconfigure my kb, but at each reboot, i have a message sayin that my $home/.dmrc file have incorrect persomision, that it should be owned by user with permission 644 or something like this
[08:25] <AstralJava> linner: How about System - Administration - Time and date?
[08:25] <akk> Yikes! I just tried to dist-upgrade, and suddenly hoary wants to remove almost every package I have
[08:25] <Kensey> ui: does your sound work at all?
[08:25] <akk> and install one package, linux-image-2.6.10-5-386
[08:25] <linner> AstralJava:  click on the time and date and click "adjust time date", hear the sound and no window
[08:25] <ui> kensey : yes it does
[08:26] <akk> I last upgraded a couple days ago and it was fine then.
[08:26] <havoc> now if I could just get xawtv to *work* I'd be happy
[08:26] <linner> AstralJava: let me see
[08:26] <rob_p> linner:  have you tried synchronizing to an external time server from the command prompt?
[08:26] <linner> rob_p: no huh uh
[08:27] <ui> i can hear sounds of clips in firefox with mplayer plugin but i cant hear flash sounds
[08:27] <linner> AstralJava: i got a window that said starting time and date and then noting
[08:27] <linner> nothing
[08:27] <rob_p> linner:  Try this, "sudo ntpdate time.nist.gov"
[08:27] <linner> ok
[08:27] <zAo^> how do i remove my gnome layout/theme settings?
[08:28] <faen> hmm, anyone have any clue as to a debian/ubuntu package equivalent to bash-completion on most other distros would be? I am use to tabbing for apps & whatnot and I don't wanna give that up
[08:28] <linner> rob_p: yeah that worked... but my question is will it continue to work properly????
[08:28] <akk> Is there a way to find out why dist-upgrade suddenly wants to remove all my packages?
[08:28] <linner> rob_p: or do I have to keep doing that?
[08:28] <zAo^> akk, tried apt-get -f dist-upgrade ?
[08:28] <AstralJava> linner: Time is syncronized every time you boot up.
[08:28] <ui> ty.... :(
[08:29] <AstralJava> linner: Or at least tried to...
[08:29] <linner> AstralJava: not the last few times it hasn't
[08:29] <rob_p> linner:  you can have it do that automatically upon booting (but I think it should by default), or you can write a script... or you can setup ntp to run as a service.
[08:29] <Kensey> hey ui
[08:29] <akk> zAo^: apt-get -f dist-upgrade wants to do the same thing as aptitude -- remove everything.
[08:29] <Kensey> it looks like the flash player tries to direct sound to /dev/dsp
[08:30] <Kensey> but sometimes the actual sound device is /dev/dsp1 or something else
[08:30] <linner> rob_p: i don't know how to do any of that
[08:30] <rob_p> linner:  Do you have any time servers listed in /etc/default/ntpdate?
[08:30] <B_166-ER-X> i have been able to reconfigure my kb, but at each reboot, i have a message sayin that my $home/.dmrc file have incorrect persomision, that it should be owned by user with permission 644 or something like this, what whould i do
[08:30] <Kensey> does /dev/dsp exist on your system?
[08:30] <linner> let me see
[08:30] <ui> let me see
[08:30] <rob_p> linner:  You should have something like NTPSERVERS="pool.ntp.org"
[08:30] <linner> rob_p: let me see
[08:30] <thrice`> chmod 644 /home/<you>/.dmrc ?
[08:31] <rob_p> linner:  Oh, and you want to make sure it isn't commented out.
[08:31] <ui> kensey yes i got it
[08:31] <linner> rob_p: may i pm you?
[08:32] <rob_p> linner:  Once you set your clock, how fast does it drift?  Maybe you have a defunct rtc on you mb.  Yeah you can pm me.
[08:32] <Kensey> hm.  dunno then.
[08:32] <ui> :/
[08:33] <Kensey> maybe try going here: http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager.html
[08:38] <WhiteRabbit> the silence must stop!
[08:38] <WhiteRabbit> lol
[08:38] <cheesie> !java
[08:38] <ubotu> java is, like, to install Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:39] <henk> hey i just installed 5.10 breezy, but i cannot seem to install mplayer. so i need some specific mirror? i did add universe and multiverse
[08:39] <Jowi> i want to find duplicate files between two HDD. recursively from bash if possible. any ideas?
[08:41] <Xenguy> TINC
[08:41] <Xenguy> sorry, ww
[08:41] <boxerboy29> after playing with this pos i cant wait to be back in ubuntu where i kinda know what im doing :(
[08:43] <moparfan90> hello all
[08:43] <tombs> hi
[08:44] <Ng> henk: check you put multiverse on enough repositories - it should be in there. There are several mplayer packages, so search for mplayer and pick the one that matches your cpu closest (probably mplayer-586 or mplayer-k6 if you have amd kit)
[08:45] <henk> ng i put the installler on advanced mode and that tells me that libavcodec2 is missing
[08:45] <boxerboy29> y
[08:45] <boxerboy29> sorry that y was posed to be in terminal
[08:46] <Ng> henk: hmm, odd
[08:46] <VenumX> hello
[08:46] <Seveas> welcom in #ubuntu all ;)
[08:46] <VenumX> can anyone help me with a problem im having with installing something with 2 cd's
[08:47] <test4324> what the best way to install 20 indentical servers with ubuntu ?
[08:47] <apsync> how can I find out the temperature of my cpu?
[08:47] <Jowi> i rephrase my question: "find" can find duplicate files. How do i use "find" to find duplicate files located in /home/user/docs/* by searching recursively a fat32 HDD?
[08:47] <butcherbird> dd?
[08:48] <Seveas> test34, either a fai/automated ubuntu install setup or dd images
[08:48] <akk> Is there a way to get hoary to clean up its archives?
[08:48] <Seveas> apt-get clean
[08:48] <test4324> thanks Seveas
[08:48] <havoc> Jowi: 'find' is recursive by nature
[08:48] <havoc> Jowi: find <dir> <options>
[08:48] <akk> "clean up" as in "figure out what's really installed". It suddenly seems to think packages I've had for months are in state U or something.
[08:49] <akk> iU  libglib2.0-0   2.8.1-1        The GLib library of C routines
[08:49] <Kaos`mm-Eze|off> if i dual boot, windows has a partitioned drive, with the windows stuff on ntfs, can ubuntu read that?
[08:49] <Seveas> yes Kaos`mm-Eze|off
[08:49] <Jowi> havoc: so "find * /media/hda7/" should do it...
[08:49] <havoc> Jowi: no, "find /media/hda7/"
[08:50] <Kaos`mm-Eze|off> so where might i find whatever is on that hadd?
[08:50] <Kaos`mm-Eze|off> hdd*
[08:50] <B_166-ER-X> I just install breezy, and i have this error at the login screen : The configuration file contains an invalid command line for the login dialog, so running the default command.
[08:50] <B_166-ER-X> Please fix your configuration , what should i do ?
[08:50] <Seveas> Kaos`mm-Eze|off, breezy?
[08:50] <test4324> can dd images run on unix ?
[08:50] <Kaos`mm-Eze|off> breezy?
[08:50] <Jowi> havoc: but will that compare files from "this directory" to files located in hda7?
[08:50] <Seveas> Kaos`mm-Eze|off, i mean: which version of ubuntu do you use?
[08:51] <Cream^^> Have a problem when i mount a win partion in a folder it turns non accessable you got to have root or something to open it and see what's in it ? Someone know the solution on my prob?
[08:51] <Seveas> Cream^^, add umask=0111 to the mount options
[08:51] <anders__> how do i install Nvidias drivers? i have to start up without X.. how do i do that?
[08:51] <havoc> Jowi: no, 'find' finds files, you'd have to use -e dirdiff or something
[08:51] <Seveas> !nvidia
[08:51] <ubotu> [nvidia]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[08:51] <Kaos`mm-Eze|off> ah, hoary
[08:51] <Seveas> Kaos`mm-Eze|off: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically
[08:51] <Jowi> havoc: ah, i c
[08:51] <B_166-ER-X> Seveas, you surely already seen my problem eh ?        The configuration file contains an invalid command line for the login dialog, so running the default command.
[08:51] <B_166-ER-X> Please fix your configuration
[08:52] <Seveas> B_166-ER-X, actually I don't know what that error means
[08:52] <Seveas> at which point exactly do you get it?
[08:52] <RadBelgian> by any chance, can someone tell me a good mp3 program?
[08:52] <Cream^^> Seveas : will text thank you
[08:52] <Seveas> RadBelgian, beep-media-player
[08:53] <B_166-ER-X> Seveas, at the login screen,  and after i click ok, the login, and after the login comes : Your $HOME/.dmrc file has incorrect permissions and is being ignored. This prevents the default session and language from
[08:53] <B_166-ER-X> being saved. File should be owned by user and have 644 permissions.
[08:53] <Seveas> aha
[08:53] <Seveas> that explains
[08:53] <Seveas> as your *normal* user, do this:
[08:53] <Diskgrind> Hello everyone!
[08:53] <apsync> how can I find out the temperature of my cpu?
[08:54] <Seveas> sudo chown $USER:$USER ~/.dmrc
[08:54] <MikaT> Hi people. I have a D-Link DWL-650 PCMCIA WLAN card and Hoary installed on an old HP laptop. LiveCD seems to find the card but installed system not. lspci can't find the card. Could you please give some hints or links on how to proceed?
[08:54] <Seveas> chmod 644 ~/.dmrc
[08:54] <B_166-ER-X> done,    so, i reboot and i come to tell you if it changed someting ;)
[08:54] <Seveas> no
[08:54] <Seveas> just logout
[08:55] <selinium> apsync, You could use xsensors, if you have sensors onboard
[08:55] <Cryptid> Help me configure starter Bar for Gdesklets!!!!!
[08:55] <|ww> any suggestions on a good mp3 player client?
[08:55] <B_166-ER-X> loggoout = cntl+alt+backspace ??
[08:55] <Seveas> |ww, beep-media-player
[08:55] <concept10> MikaT, theres instructions to configure that in the wiki
[08:55] <Seveas> B_166-ER-X, np, system -> logout
[08:55] <|ww> Seveas; as always Ty =)
[08:55] <Diskgrind> What is a Wiki?
[08:55] <Keyfitter> check cpu temp?  go into your cmos utility
[08:56] <Diskgrind> web page?
[08:56] <Seveas> wiki.ubuntu.com
[08:56] <apsync> selinium, there was a command if I remember right, you know that?
[08:56] <apsync> command
[08:56] <concept10> Diskgrind, webpage editable by anyone
[08:56] <Diskgrind> Whe looking for new themes, what is the best kind to look for at gnome-look.org?  GTK or what?
[08:56] <Diskgrind> ok
[08:57] <concept10> Diskgrind, yes ... gtk
[08:57] <Diskgrind> thank you!!
[08:57] <B_166-ER-X> Seveas ... i still have the error, even though i did change the permission with your chmod command :\
[08:57] <hou5ton> i have installed Breezy ... will it automatically continue to update right into the final release for me?
[08:57] <Diskgrind> good question.
[08:58] <ompaul> yes
[08:58] <ompaul> hou5ton, yes that is
[08:58] <hou5ton> ompaul:  thank you ...and that's great news.
[08:58] <Cody`> Were the new kernel updates for hoary from backports?
[08:58] <Seveas> B_166-ER-X, odd, then the error is incomplete
[08:58] <foampeace> anyone played cube?
[08:58] <Cody`> 2.6.10-5-386
[08:59] <Seveas> Cody`, no, from hoary-security
[08:59] <Cryptid> >>>>>>>Help me configure starter Bar for Gdesklets!!!!!<<<<<<<<
[08:59] <Seveas> Cryptid: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.
[08:59] <Diskgrind> Is ther a MS Windows emulator that will let me run, apps, games in Ubuntu?
[08:59] <concept10> Cryptid, and do a search in the forum
[08:59] <Seveas> Diskgrind, why not find linux applications or use windows?
[08:59] <test4324> Disk: wine
[09:00] <butcherbird> Diskgrind, in many cases wine will work
[09:00] <B_166-ER-X> Seveas so i dont have any options.   other than  keeping an boot screen error, going back to hoary (if its still possible)    or throwing my pc by the window :\ (or going on windows, wich is in many way the same thing)
[09:00] <zygis> Seveas, probably Cryptid is just following the guidelines... http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/RTFM
[09:00] <zygis> :)
[09:00] <regal> ooohjj
[09:00] <regal> tanta gente!
[09:00] <regal> O_o
[09:00] <Cryptid> concept10, i did serach in the forum i only found how to install gdesklets not how to configure the starter bar for gdesklets
[09:00] <MikaT> concept10: thanks, but I could only find instructions for a case where card was visible to lspci. I'll start searching again, but if you got the link, I'll appreciate a lot...
[09:00] <Diskgrind> I'd like to try and stay with and learn as much Linux as possible thats why I asked about it.  But thanks.. I do have a dual boot system.
[09:00] <saint> How do i redirect where Synaptic package manager looks?
[09:01] <ompaul> !tell saint about repos
[09:01] <foampeace> repositories
[09:01] <saint> indeed to tell
[09:01] <saint> do*
[09:01] <B_166-ER-X> Seveas, for info : http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=12378     the first one at the top, the 'CODE:' its the exact error i get
[09:01] <ompaul> saint, you got a message from ubotu read it :)
[09:02] <Cody`> Seveas: thanks, wasn't sure as I had nuked an install with backports kernels before :P
[09:02] <concept10> Cryptid, its somewhere... believe me someone has done it before.  Probably not currently in the channel though.  I havent myself.
[09:02] <Cryptid> concept10, ok i will try searching again
[09:02] <Seveas> B_166-ER-X, paste your .dmrc on the pastebin
[09:03] <michan> i'm having trouble installing nvidia drivers.  when i run the installer it says the kernel was compiled with gcc 3.4, and i have gcc 4.0 installed.  my kernel version is 2.6.12-9.  can anyone help?
[09:04] <henk> is there some nicer alternative for gaim ? i mean eyecandy-wise
[09:04] <Seveas> !tell michan about nvidia
[09:04] <paniq> henk: kopete
[09:04] <Seveas> henk, some like amsn (i think it's uglier)
[09:04] <paniq> henk: but gaim is really the best choice so far.
[09:04] <Seveas> kopete is kde, so you need all kde libs
[09:04] <nerp> gaim for the most part has served me the best
[09:04] <Arkainium> is there a way to spare syslog from all the bootup spam?
[09:05] <Seveas> no
[09:05] <henk> Seveas, since i'm totaly hooked on kbounce i have those allready :)
[09:05] <Seveas> :)
[09:05] <Rockett18> amsn is brutally ugly - amsn 0.95 is looking promising though.. whole bunch of new features (webcam/audio/nudges etc).. But again it's st
[09:05] <Rockett18>  tcl/tk
[09:05] <Rockett18> ill tcl/tk
[09:05] <Rockett18> damn lag
[09:06] <concept10> MikaT, try that wiki page.  Im not sure about your card but it worked for me with pci
[09:06] <boxerboy29> the only problem with kopete is you cant enter aim rooms
[09:07] <devios> anyone know how to get streaming audio from krock2.com ? it's telling me windowze only.  is there a way I can play this stuff with ubuntu?
[09:07] <masticator> what kind of stream is it?
[09:07] <boxerboy29> yay atleast that works
[09:07] <daejavu> devios, install mplayer and mozilla plugins for mplayer and enjoy
[09:08] <henk> if i choose to remove gaim the managers says it wants to remove ubuntu-desktop. is it 'just' a meta package or am i going to run into trouble in the future when things are added to ubuntu that i'll miss because of this?
[09:08] <B_166-ER-X> Seveas...the file is empty, nothing
[09:09] <daejavu> problem with synaptic .. can anyone spare a min for it plz ?
[09:09] <Seveas> wth
[09:09] <nerp> daejavu, can try
[09:09] <Seveas> remove the file :)
[09:09] <Cheesie> !java
[09:09] <ubotu> hmm... java is to install Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:09] <Seveas> henk, if disk space isn't an issue, leave it installed
[09:10] <henk> Seveas, ok. i'll just remove it from my menu than
[09:10] <nerp> the java package in the breezy repos isn't the latest java btw
[09:10] <daejavu> nerp, there seems tobe no problem with my internet connection but each time i download something from Synaptic it starts it and then pauses after a while and then says the package cannot be downloaded
[09:10] <nerp> daejavu, that's odd
[09:10] <daejavu> nerp, as if my net had dissconnected :S
[09:10] <nerp> firewall?
[09:11] <daejavu> aa nops .. i had FireStarter but its not on now ..  still its doing the same thign :S
[09:11] <B_166-ER-X> Seveas : got it now, but there is only [Desktop] 
[09:11] <B_166-ER-X> Session=default  in the .dmrc file
[09:11] <nerp> weird
[09:11] <daejavu> nerp, aa nops .. i had FireStarter but its not on now ..  still its doing the same thing :S
[09:11] <nerp> I can read typos
[09:11] <abarbaccia> did the font locations from hoary to breezy move?
[09:11] <concept10> How do I remove the evolution and rhythmbox packages in breezy without remove the gnome-desktop files?
[09:12] <selinium> If i download something into mplayer, where does the temp file go?
[09:12] <abarbaccia> concept10, gnome-desktop is a container package
[09:12] <nerp> daejavu, have you done apt-get update?
[09:12] <Cheesie> !bittorrent
[09:12] <ubotu> I guess bittorrent is at <reply> The BitTorrent FAQ is available at: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[09:12] <daejavu> nerp, yup ... i even tried command line apt-get .. and it does the same thing ..
[09:12] <nerp> selinium, need to hide your porn tracks :P
[09:12] <kevin06> Other than GNOME and KDE, what Graphical Desktop Environments does Ubuntu package?
[09:12] <concept10> abarbaccia, I understand that but removing evolution or rhythmbox removes all of that stuff...........
[09:12] <akk> Seriously, something looks seriously horked in dist-upgrade. Has anyone here dist-upgraded in the past day?
[09:13] <nerp> daejavu, do : sudo apt-get update one more time
[09:13] <concept10> akk, I have.. not recommended IMHO
[09:13] <[LethAL] > kevin06, XFCE and Enlightenment are the only ones I can think of
[09:13] <selinium> nerp: no i am running a music server and I want to see how easy it is to nick the tunes :)
[09:13] <akk> concept10: Why?
[09:13] <daejavu> nerp, copy that .. lemme try again and lets c .. the current download just halted again :S
[09:13] <akk> concept10: Maybe I should just wait a few days and things will straighten out?
[09:14] <concept10> akk, I pulled down more than 1100 packages yesterday only to have a borked install.....
[09:14] <kevin06> [LethAL] , Thanks.
[09:14] <nerp> daejavu, I have no clue really, sounds like something is wrong with your physical connection or you have a firewall router issue
[09:14] <nerp> firewall or*
[09:14] <akk> concept10: I should have asked: hoary, or breezy? This is hoary?
[09:14] <shivy> hya, I accidentaly grubbed my7 windows partition ....how can i reverse this
[09:15] <nerp> concept10, ick
[09:15] <nerp> how 'borked'?
[09:15] <daejavu> nerp, maybe i need to put alternate repos or something ... like mirrors .. wheres the best place to get the best list of repositories for Hoary ?
[09:15] <concept10> akk, hedgehog to the badger
[09:15] <nerp> daejavu, there is a listing on the ubuntu site, google it
[09:15] <nerp> !repos
[09:15] <ubotu> methinks repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[09:15] <akk> concept10: Oh, IC. My sources.list says hoary, so I shouldn't be getting much new stuff (and I'm not, it just wants to remove everything).
[09:15] <concept10> nerp, couldnt start x
[09:16] <daejavu> nerp, i got mine from www.ubuntuguide.org
[09:16] <butcherbird> shivy, grub will not boot windows or ubuntu or what?
[09:16] <nerp> that'll work too
[09:16] <nerp> !tell daejavu about repos
[09:16] <concept10> akk, are you trying to upgrade to breezy or perform hoary update?
[09:16] <nerp> concept10, did you do a basde install or default?
[09:16] <nerp> base, rather
[09:16] <akk> concept10: I'm just trying to do a hoary update.
[09:17] <SpaceBass> hey folks... anyone tried installing 5.10 preview yet?
[09:17] <Nameless12> i just installed the ubuntu 5.10 preview, and did all the updates. Does this version of ubuntu have the latest video drivers for ATI  ?
[09:17] <concept10> nerp, huh?  you dont get that option.  thats debian
[09:17] <nerp> SpaceBass, yes running it now
[09:17] <saeed> Hello there
[09:17] <nerp> concept10, yes you do
[09:17] <SpaceBass> nerp run into any problems during the install with partitioning?
[09:17] <concept10> nerp, hmmm..ive never seen it before..even on hoary
[09:17] <Cryptid> concept10, can u tell me atleast how to configure "Launcher Properties" i couldnt find any topic help on the forums
[09:17] <nerp> SpaceBass, none for me, flawless so far
[09:18] <nerp> concept10, gotta read more ;P
[09:18] <saeed> Hello
[09:18] <concept10> nerp, ive seen it in debian
[09:18] <dalamar> its in ubuntu at the very beginning of install
[09:18] <nerp> when the intial prompt goes off you either hit enter or type 'server' for the different installs
[09:18] <concept10> nerp, I just keep pressing return until I get to the partition part :)
[09:18] <nerp> concept10, thats why you don't see it
[09:18] <concept10> Cryptid, Launcher properties?
[09:18] <concept10> nerp, heh
[09:19] <nerp> i need a smoke, brb
[09:19] <SpaceBass> when I tried to install both regular and expert, I got an ambigious screen that just said ??? partintion <go back>  <continue> and couldnt get past it
[09:19] <SpaceBass> I havewas planning on wiping out my redhat partition and useing it, but I cannot even get the partitioner to come up
[09:19] <concept10> The partition part of the install needs some work...
[09:19] <concept10> Cryptid, what are you trying to do?
[09:20] <daejavu> nerp, thanks for the time dude .. ill try the new list and c what happens :-)
[09:20] <freebase`> i have a fat32 disc mounted and its read only.. how can i change that?
[09:21] <concept10> freebase`, what was your mount command?
[09:21] <zone17> Hi, how in the new KDE system settings do I set how different keys should react?
[09:21] <SpaceBass> if I install 5.4 and do a apt-get distro-upgrade ?
[09:21] <Jowi> freebase, make the entry in /etc/fstab look something like this: /dev/hda7       /media/data       vfat    defaults,umask=000        0       0
[09:21] <larsrohdin> I've done something really bad here... I've made all the files on a disc executable... how can I make them not executable?
[09:21] <SpaceBass> will that bring me up to 5.10?
[09:21] <henk> how can i get my "next" and "previous"  buttons to work on my logitech keyboard (the black wireless optical pro thingy) The volume wheel worked out of the box after selecting the keyboard
[09:21] <zone17> I want the "Print screen" key to call the screenshot program
[09:21] <freebase`> /dev/sdd5 /media/test vfat ro,auto,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=0000 0 0
[09:21] <Nameless12> can someone help me get dual monitors working on ubuntu with my x800pro i have tried to get it to work for ages and ended up getting frustrated with it and going back to windows, so yeah... if anyone could take me thru step by step to avoid the frustration a 2nd time around that would be great
[09:21] <Cryptid> concept10, when u right click on the desktop u get a new launcher option so i was wondering if u will tell me what that is and how to configure it coz even my gdeskler starter bar has the same option in it
[09:21] <concept10> freebase`, change that ro to rw
[09:21] <nerp> np
[09:21] <freebase`> concept10, ok thnx
[09:22] <akk> I guess nobody's updated hoary in the last day or two, then?
[09:22] <ramblingt> hey i just update hoary and now my system is messed up
[09:22] <nerp> akk, err whats wrong?
[09:22] <concept10> Cryptid, thats like creating a shortcut to a application
[09:22] <nerp> define 'messed up'
[09:23] <akk> nerp: It wants to remove practically every package on my system, but won't say why.
[09:23] <ramblingt> well it will only boot into command line
[09:23] <piercedh20> Can anyone reccomend an easily installed mp3 player for Ubuntu?
[09:23] <ramblingt> it gives me error messages about x not being able to start
[09:23] <akk> nerp: and install one new package, linux-image-2.6.10-5-386
[09:23] <concept10> ramblingt, did you just upgrade to breezy?
[09:23] <akk> piercedh20: I use xmms
[09:23] <nerp> akk, weird what cmd are you using?
[09:24] <Cryptid> concept10, oh thats exactly what i have to do so can u help me make a shortcut for firefox and the rest i will try to do
[09:24] <ramblingt> no just a regular update
[09:24] <piercedh20> akk, I keep getting errors when I try to 'make install'
[09:24] <nerp> piercedh20, what errors?
[09:24] <piercedh20> on gamp
[09:24] <ramblingt> did the update in synaptic
[09:24] <piercedh20> It says somnething like missing xml::parser for perl
[09:24] <akk> nerp: aptitude -f dist-upgrade, apt-get -f dist-upgrade, or synaptic "fix broken"
[09:24] <piercedh20> thats on the configure
[09:24] <piercedh20> I'll try xmms
[09:25] <akk> nerp: I updated (with aptitude -f dist-upgrade) a day or two ago and it was fine then.
[09:25] <freebase`> concept10, it didnt work :/
[09:25] <nerp> akk, try without -f
[09:25] <nerp> do apt-get update first though
[09:25] <akk> nerp: Same thing without -f, I should have mentioned that.
[09:26] <akk> nerp: I did apt-get update and aptitude update both.
[09:26] <concept10> freebase`, umount and mount again
[09:26] <nerp> wow, strange
[09:26] <nerp> piercedh20, anything else?
[09:26] <concept10> Cryptid, just create the launcher and use this to launch /usr/bin/firefox
[09:26] <piercedh20> akk: should xmms work with the deafult Ubuntu installation?
[09:26] <nerp> piercedh20, yes
[09:26] <piercedh20> ok nerp
[09:27] <piercedh20> Ill be right back with the exact error :P
[09:27] <nerp> piercedh20, make sure you have the correct driver selected
[09:27] <piercedh20> nerp, Im a linux newbie. What do you mean the correct driver selected?
[09:27] <nerp> in prefs
[09:27] <concept10> freebase`, umount /media/test then mount it again with the rw
[09:27] <ramblingt> so after doing a update in synaptic I can't boot x and cpu is not recognized?
[09:28] <nerp> there should be a driver slection for your sound card
[09:28] <nerp> like ens-1731 or something similar
[09:28] <piercedh20> Ok, I havent made it that far, I can't even compile it
[09:28] <piercedh20> BRB with error nerp
[09:28] <hou5ton> hey .... my wireless on Breezy worked right out of the box ..... now ... is there some "thingie" that goes up in the notification area that tells me what wireless connection points are around me, and what strenght they are?  I need that at some locations.
[09:28] <ramblingt> i didnt do a distro upgrade either just tried to update my system
[09:28] <freebase`> concept10, works now thanks mate
[09:29] <[LethAL] > hou5ton, Right click your gnome-panel and click add to panel, then add Network Monitor
[09:29] <jdermer> hi
[09:29] <jdermer> can someone help me get 3d acceleration working ?
[09:29] <[LethAL] > hou5ton, Then make sure it monitors your wireless connection
[09:29] <steve_o> hola
[09:29] <concept10> freebase`, np
[09:30] <hou5ton> [LethAL] :  oh .. you know what .. i already had that up there, but didn't realize it would only monitor one type of connection at a time.
[09:30] <[LethAL] > hou5ton, If you want a network manager for wireless, try wifi-manager
[09:30] <[LethAL] > Hehe
[09:30] <ramblingt> how can i tell what package i last updated was
[09:31] <concept10> [LethAL] , is that the redhat network manager?
[09:31] <hou5ton> [LethAL] :  ok ... will wifi-manager be an additional monitoring system that will work right beside the other one?
[09:31] <Dalkus> if I attach a usb mass storage device to my ubuntu box, where should I look to read the files?
[09:31] <[LethAL] > concept10, no, I meant wifi-radar
[09:31] <[LethAL] > hou5ton, no
[09:32] <[LethAL] > hou5ton, If you set up profiles for all your locations, I think it will jump automatically
[09:32] <[LethAL] > hou5ton, However, I only have one location
[09:33] <concept10> Dalkus, unplug the device... and run/monitor tail -f /var/log/messages from terminal, plug the device back in and you shall see, but ubuntu should auto mount those on start
[09:33] <_jason> Hoary question: how can I make panel applets transparent in gnome?  Making the panel transparent leaves the applets opaque.
[09:33] <Dalkus> concept10, auto mount it where? :)
[09:33] <piercedh20> nerp: I get this error message when I typed './configure' - "configure: error: *** GLIB >= 1.2.2 not installed - please install first ***
[09:33] <piercedh20> "
[09:33] <zblach> hi
[09:33] <henk> hmm can i have xmms play mp3 whitout it sitting in the taskbar?
[09:33] <concept10> Dalkus, did you have the device plugged in at boot?
[09:33] <zblach> i kinda killed my ubuntu
[09:34] <Dalkus> concept10, no
[09:34] <ubuntu> hey all, can someone help me out with getting grub back please?
[09:34] <[LethAL] > henk, move it to another virtual desktop instead
[09:34] <[LethAL] > ubuntu, What's wrong with it?
[09:34] <nerp> piercedh20, grab glib and also build-essential in synaptic, then also do updatedb then try to compile
[09:34] <puff> Hm.
[09:34] <concept10> Dalkus, well not auto mount, read above
[09:34] <piercedh20> ok nerp
[09:34] <Dalkus> concept10, the above gives me command not found
[09:34] <puff> How would I check if my USB is working, without a USB device?
[09:34] <zblach> see, i tried going to breezy, and it failed half-way
[09:34] <ubuntu> I had XP and ubuntu dual booting, then I reinstalled XP - which overwrote GRUB - at the moment I'm on a linux live CD, how can I get grub back?
[09:34] <Dalkus> 'monitor'
[09:34] <puff> Whoops.
[09:34] <zblach> now i'm stuck with nothing
[09:34] <puff> I mean, bluetooth.
[09:34] <concept10> tail -f /var/log/messages
[09:34] <Dalkus> tail not found, either
[09:35] <Dalkus> should I apt-get?
[09:35] <puff> I have built-in bluetooth in this laptop, I want to get a wireless keyboard.
[09:35] <[LethAL] > !tell ubuntu about grub
[09:35] <[LethAL] > The second link ;)
[09:35] <puff> Bluetooth keyboard seems to make sense, less hardware to deal with in the laptop.
[09:35] <ubuntu> ah thanks
[09:35] <concept10> Dalkus, are you sure?
[09:35] <zblach> and now i'm getting this error with 'dist-upgrade':
[09:35] <Dalkus> ah sorry typo :) concept10
[09:35] <sky_monkey007> hey all.  Could someone help me?  I'm trying to create a cron job using Webmin, but when I go to save it, or even create one in console, it tells me that root isn't allowed to use this program (cron).  What user should I run the job as?  It's a backup script for rdiff-backup.
[09:35] <piercedh20> nerp: it shows that glib is already installed
[09:35] <daejavu> hey anyone knows how to get the ".wma" media files running ...
[09:35] <Dalkus> I get "disk at:" and a very long string of numbers concept10
[09:36] <nerp> piercedh20, have glib-dev
[09:36] <daejavu> in installed all codecs and nothign happens
[09:36] <nerp> ?
[09:36] <zblach> "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:36] <akk> It looks like there's a problem with my libglib packages, and apt-get won't get them. Where can I download hoary packages using a browser, so I can install them with dpkg?
[09:36] <sky_monkey007> daejavu, download the w32codecs
[09:36] <piercedh20> nerp: I searched for glib and all matching entries are installed
[09:36] <nerp> do sudo updatedb
[09:36] <sky_monkey007> I think they are listed in apt as w32codecsall
[09:36] <nerp> then try
[09:36] <[LethAL] > akk, archive.ubuntu.com
[09:36] <piercedh20> ok
[09:36] <akk> Thanks, [LethAL] 
[09:36] <daejavu> sky_monkey007,  cool .. its downloading at the moment .. lets c what happens :D
[09:36] <nerp> !win32codecs
[09:36] <ubotu> No idea, nerp
[09:36] <zblach> hate being stuck in the prompt
[09:37] <Cheesie> !limewire
[09:37] <maci> hm is there any way t change the pkgs architecutre without a complet reinstall from cd ?
[09:37] <ubotu> Cheesie: I give up, what is it?
[09:37] <Cheesie> !lime
[09:37] <ubotu> Cheesie: I don't know, could you explain it?
[09:37] <Cheesie> !LimeWire
[09:37] <ubotu> Cheesie: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[09:37] <Cheesie> guys?
[09:37] <Cheesie> how can i get limewire
[09:37] <nerp> Cheesie, use giFT
[09:37] <nerp> it's better
[09:37] <zblach> Cheesie: Gnutella
[09:37] <Thorondor> highvoltage, i tried do ./configure some program, but i get an error: "checking for zlibVersion in -lz... no" "configure: error: *** zlib not found!" - how do I install zlib?
[09:37] <nerp> giFT with apollon FE
[09:37] <Strog> giFT is great
[09:38] <sky_monkey007> Daejavu, make sure that there are files in /usr/lib/win32 after you install that.
[09:38] <Strog> :)
[09:38] <nerp> indeed
[09:38] <piercedh20> nerp: I get this warning when I type 'sudo updatedb' : warning: updatedb: could not open database: /var/lib/slocate/slocate.db: No such file or directory
[09:38] <Cheesie> zblach- whats Gnutella?
[09:38] <Nameless12> i just installed the new ati drivers can someone tell me the command to run the "gears" program that tests if its working i forget what the command is
[09:38] <nerp> piercedh20, thats ok
[09:38] <nerp> it's there now
[09:38] <piercedh20> ok
[09:38] <piercedh20> It is still working on it
[09:38] <_jason> !tell daejavu about restricted
[09:38] <nerp> did you get the build-essential?
[09:38] <concept10> Dalkus, no messages?
[09:38] <Cheesie> zblach- whats Gnutella?
[09:38] <zblach> Cheesie: limewire is a java front-end for gnutella
[09:38] <michan> my nvidia drivers aren't.  after i install nvidia-glx and reboot, when it tries starting the xserver it just goes to a blank screen.  can anyone help?
[09:39] <Dalkus> concept10, yeah I get a few details about what type of storage device it is... but I can't seem to find a location that I could read from?
[09:39] <Strog> It's a client that runs on the gnutella network
[09:39] <Cheesie> kk zblach
[09:39] <renjii> i hear those p2p networks are beting closed down
[09:39] <piercedh20> nerp,  Im installing build-essential now
[09:39] <Cheesie> zblach- how do i install it?
[09:39] <nerp> ok, then do updatedb again
[09:39] <nerp> then compile should work now
[09:39] <zblach> Cheesie: ask the damn bot. i'm stuck in the prompt atm.
[09:39] <betico> ola
[09:39] <concept10> Dalkus, post to #flood
[09:39] <Cheesie> !gnutella
[09:39] <ubotu> Cheesie: Do they come in packets of five?
[09:39] <piercedh20> ok nerp
[09:39] <Dalkus> concept10, ok - gotta join on the ubuntu box, a sec.
[09:40] <Cheesie> !Gnutella
[09:40] <ubotu> Cheesie: Do they come in packets of five?
[09:40] <Cheesie> zblach no
[09:40] <nerp> Cheesie, use google
[09:40] <zblach> *sigh*, its somewhere in the ubuntu forums
[09:40] <piercedh20> thanks nerp, brb
[09:40] <Thorondor> hello, i tried do ./configure some program, but i get an error: "checking for zlibVersion in -lz... no" "configure: error: *** zlib not found!" - how do I install zlib?
[09:40] <daejavu> _jason, thanks for that one dude !
[09:40] <[LethAL] > Cheesie... you could open Synaptic and search
[09:40] <nerp> piercedh20, np
[09:40] <zblach> [LethAL] : no he can'
[09:40] <zblach> t
[09:40] <_jason> np
[09:40] <nerp> [LethAL] , no that would be too easy
[09:40] <Cheesie> kk
[09:40] <henk> In windows i used to have a thunderbird plugin that minimised thunderbird instead of shutting it down. It kept it running in the traybar. is there something like that for gnome?
[09:41] <betico> alguien espaol?
[09:41] <zblach> anyone wanna help me get gnome back?
[09:41] <[LethAL] > !es
[09:41] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:41] <nerp> zblach, what'd you do?
[09:41] <betico>  #ubuntu-es
[09:41] <zblach> nerp, breezy dist-upgrade failed
[09:41] <Dalk> concept10, that give any clues? :)
[09:41] <ramblingt> used synaptic to upgrade packages 3 packages where selected used ctrl+alt+backspace to restart then system error message came up can not start x and processor unrecognized
[09:41] <nerp> hmm, and gnome got buggered?
[09:42] <zblach> as did much else
[09:42] <Cheesie> !download
[09:42] <ubotu> download is, like, get Ubuntu LiveCD & install ISOs at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download/ and if you need information on burning ISOs, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[09:42] <nerp> eep
[09:42] <concept10> Dalk, maybe /dev/sda(x)  (x) = partition  ........ do you have any partitons defined on that drive?
[09:42] <zblach> "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[09:42] <Dalkus> concept10, I don't think so - it's an mp3 player
[09:42] <boboboka> hello there
[09:42] <zblach> hey boboboka. welcome to ubuntu chat.
[09:42] <boboboka> was wondering, how can I update my gaim ?
[09:43] <boboboka> hey zblach.
[09:43] <concept10> Dalkus, try to mount /dev/sda1
[09:43] <Dalkus> concept10, do I need to mount those /dev/sda(1)
[09:43] <Dalkus> okay thanks
[09:43] <delire> boboboka: 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install gaim' is the fast way.
[09:43] <Dalkus> concept10, thanks! you got it! thanks alot :)
[09:44] <eyezdk> Hello all
[09:44] <delire> boboboka: or just start up synaptic, update and then install gaim. there may not be a super recent version in the repository yet though.
[09:44] <ramblingt> i dont really know how to use command line and now that is all i have so how do I start to figure out what happened during the update to screwup x and why isn't my cpu recognized anymore
[09:44] <concept10> Dalkus, no problem, just send me 14 GB of good muzak
[09:44] <smott> what command do i run to hibernate (as in the hibernate option in the gnome2 log-out menu) ?
[09:44] <boboboka> it's not installing the newst ver
[09:44] <eyezdk> I have a question, Can I have a dual boot with Ubuntu (i have some games i want to keep, and dont know id they can run under linux)
[09:44] <boboboka> the gaim said that there is a newer ver
[09:45] <delire> boboboka: it may not be in the ubuntu repository yet.. hmm.
[09:45] <concept10> eyezdk, yes
[09:45] <_jason> eyezdk:  yes, you can dual boot... i have xp and ubuntu on my laptop
[09:45] <Kira> The Ubuntu Install CD doesn't seem to work on my Toshiba Satellite A70. It boots, but then the screen goes to blank and stays like that.
[09:45] <michan> can anyone help me troubleshoot my nvidia drivers?  i just got a new card and installing nvidia-glx is just giving me a blank screen when loading X
[09:46] <boboboka> so I just need to wait for it to be in the repository?
[09:46] <delire> boboboka: well if you can stand waiting, i would. it might only be a week or so til it's packaged for ubuntu. otherwise remove game using synaptic and install it straight from a tarball, eg download it from their site.
[09:46] <Kira> Any other way I can still install Ubuntu?
[09:46] <delire> boboboka: s/game/gaim ;) my mistake.
[09:46] <concept10> Kira, did you try to install Hoary or Breezy?
[09:46] <boboboka> k. 10x. another question:
[09:47] <nerp> Kira, did you checksum the cd before you burned & tried to install?
[09:47] <eyezdk> ok, thx
[09:47] <delire> Kira: some CD's can be a bad burn and this can contribute to this outcome.
[09:47] <boboboka> my ubuntu is half in my locale lang. how can I keep the support of ubuntu in my lang, but make it english?
[09:47] <boboboka> what windows will call "enabled"
[09:47] <boboboka> ?
[09:48] <zblach> how can i revert to hoary?
[09:48] <Chousuke> hmm.
[09:48] <ricky> hi everybody
[09:48] <Chousuke> By serious hacking or a re-install
[09:48] <nerp> zblach, edit your sources to hoary repos and do the same as for upgrade to breezy
[09:49] <Chousuke> nerp: will not work.
[09:49] <zblach> nerp, where is the repo file?
[09:49] <nerp> Chousuke, no?
[09:49] <delire> boboboka: i use dpkg-reconfigure locales to do this, but it's not reccommended for you. there may be a way in Gnome to set the default locale.
[09:49] <Chousuke> nerp: nope.
[09:49] <nerp> hmm, why not?
[09:49] <Chousuke> Downgrading is not as easy.
[09:49] <boboboka> how?
[09:49] <butcherbird> zblach, reinstall or keep breezy best bet
[09:49] <zblach> Chousuke: i failed half way thorugh breezy
[09:49] <Chousuke> Because apt will not downgrade.
[09:49] <zblach> and now i'm stuck in limbo
[09:49] <Chousuke> zblach: oh, damn.
[09:50] <delire> anyone here running Gnome and know how/if boboboka can set his default locale in a GUI?
[09:50] <Chousuke> Try to solve it.
[09:50] <boboboka> is it possible kde on ubuntu?
[09:50] <Chousuke> yes
[09:50] <zblach> ubotu, tell boboboka about kubuntu
[09:50] <delire> boboboka: yep, you can grab it all quite easily.
[09:50] <nerp> boboboka, i think when you login with gdm you have the option to select languages
[09:50] <Chousuke> ubuntu has the same packages as kubuntu.
[09:50] <boboboka> i mean, is it possible to use kde instead of gnome?
[09:50] <Chousuke> and vice versa.
[09:50] <concept10> Language Selector?
[09:50] <delire> boboboka: yes.
[09:50] <mumbles> oh yeh , how easy is it to install a window manager on a server install ?
[09:50] <Chousuke> boboboka: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:50] <nerp> boboboka, yes
[09:51] <Chousuke> Eek, korean
[09:51] <delire> boboboka: see what concept10 said..
[09:51] <mumbles> so a gui instead of just the command line
[09:51] <nerp> mumbles, easy enough
[09:51] <mumbles> any help documents out there?
[09:51] <[LethAL] > Anyone have an idea why my top panel isn't responing, even after killing gnome-panel?
[09:51] <Chousuke> mumbles: sudo apt-get install name-of-wm
[09:51] <Chousuke> :P
[09:51] <concept10> System > Prefs > Language Selector
[09:51] <zblach> what can I do about this: "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[09:51] <werner> hellooooow!
[09:51] <mumbles> whats the best? gnome ?
[09:51] <nerp> mumbles, there's a guide to debian net-installs on how to get x via apt, they should be nearly identical
[09:51] <werner> I use gnome :)
[09:51] <butcherbird> boboboka, kde is evil.  you dont want to be evil do you?
[09:51] <i3dmaster> vitual user for vsftpd is not working. anyone has this problem?
[09:52] <werner> it's cool
[09:52] <Chousuke> mumbles: not for a server.
[09:52] <zblach> mumbles: i like gnome, but its for different tastes
[09:52] <boboboka> :-)
[09:52] <werner> my wlan doesn' t work on my ubuntu laptop :(
[09:52] <tristanmike> mumbles, that is strictly a matter of opinon, I use Gnome thou
[09:52] <Chousuke> just use something barebones for a server.
[09:52] <Chousuke> like fluxbox.
[09:52] <nerp> fluxbox :D
[09:52] <[LethAL] > Or Openbox
[09:52] <Chousuke> or, if you hate yourself, TWM!
[09:52] <mumbles> ive tried fluxbox
[09:52] <[LethAL] > Or Windowmaker
[09:52] <[LethAL] > etc etc
[09:52] <boboboka> concept10 can you explain a bit more detailed please?
[09:52] <henk> how can i get my "next" and "previous"  buttons to work on my logitech keyboard (the black wireless optical pro thingy) The volume wheel worked out of the box after selecting the keyboard
[09:52] <concept10> dont use any wm on server...wastes resources
[09:53] <mumbles> i may just use gnome though... i know my way around
[09:53] <Chousuke> well, yes.
[09:53] <Zeroblitzt> How far along is Breezy?
[09:53] <Chousuke> you can also run only an X-server
[09:53] <nerp> unless the server isn't all that important
[09:53] <Chousuke> Zeroblitzt: soon here.
[09:53] <zblach> 2 weeks from its official release
[09:53] <Zeroblitzt> hmm
[09:53] <concept10> boboboka, what are you atempting to do?
[09:53] <mumbles> nerp it isent
[09:53] <nerp> mumbles, then try what you want
[09:53] <mumbles> k
[09:53] <nerp> there may be security issues though
[09:53] <Zeroblitzt> I wonder if I should just upgrade now then?
[09:53] <blekos> hi
[09:54] <zblach> Zeroblitzt: BE VERY CAREFUL
[09:54] <werner> /ctcp werner version << w00t you see? linux :D
[09:54] <werner> ubuntu !
[09:54] <[LethAL] > Zeroblitzt, if you want, you can
[09:54] <Zeroblitzt> Why be very careful >_>?
[09:54] <boboboka> my gui is half in my locale. I want to keep the support in it, but change the interface to eng. (what windows will call "enable")
[09:54] <zblach> Zeroblitzt: I tried yesterday, it failed, and now i'm stuck in console
[09:54] <Zeroblitzt> oh
[09:54] <Zeroblitzt> errm
[09:54] <mumbles> when ive got my wireless setup thats my next option
[09:54] <boboboka> this was ment for :concept10
[09:54] <zblach> and there's _nothing_ _anyone_ can do to help
[09:54] <[LethAL] > Zeroblitzt, I tried it a couple of weeks ago, it's still working
[09:55] <Chousuke> zblach: you haven't provided anough info
[09:55] <mattyJ> is the ATI Mobility Radeon 7500 a radeon r200?
[09:55] <Chousuke> enough*
[09:55] <[LethAL] > mumbles, Wireless and server is not clever
[09:55] <concept10> boboboka, I guess use System > Prefs > Language Selector
[09:55] <nerp> zblach, don't give up yet there may be people around later that can help
[09:55] <[LethAL] > s/and/
[09:55] <zblach> Chousuke: i've spoken with a few other people. what else is there to say?
[09:55] <Chousuke> mattyJ: You shouldn't need the binary drivers.
[09:55] <boboboka> where is the System, concept10?
[09:55] <Chousuke> zblach: what does it fail on?
[09:55] <delire> zblach: what's the problem?
[09:55] <mumbles> [LethAL]  its not at risk
[09:55] <mumbles> well it wont be when ive secured teh wireless
[09:55] <mattyJ> Chousuke: ya im just wondering what it is, i wanted to try xegl
[09:55] <zblach> fails on : sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:55] <Zeroblitzt> The only reason I want to upgrade now is because I can't get sound working. It was working fine ~3 weeks ago, then I used Ubuntu Update Manager and got an update, and sound wont work now
[09:56] <[LethAL] > mumbles, I'm not on about security
[09:56] <concept10> boboboka, at top
[09:56] <Chousuke> zblach: which package?
[09:56] <[LethAL] > mumbles, Reliability is my problem
[09:56] <Zeroblitzt> Maybe I'll just go back to Windows for a week
[09:56] <Chousuke> what error?
[09:56] <butcherbird> mumbles, "secured wireless" heh =)
[09:56] <[LethAL] > airsnortd!
[09:56] <zblach> Chousuke: doesn't say. all I get is this error msg:
[09:56] <delire> zblach: paste the output. why not apt-get upgrade instead? apt-get dist-upgrade can be dangerous unless from one whole stable version to another.
[09:56] <zeke1> can anybody help me to set up my network in ubuntu?
[09:57] <[LethAL] > Chousuke, I have Wireless USB
[09:57] <zblach> "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[09:57] <smott> what's the command to hibernate?
[09:57] <ricky> can you help me ??? i've installed breezy colony 3 and i've upgrade it, but i want to know if is possible to use the bootsplash, like some of others distro ???
[09:57] <Chousuke> zblach: after trying to install what package?
[09:57] <delire> zblach: post the full output on pastebin.com
[09:57] <test4324> seem likes ubuntu 5.0.10 does not support wireless keyboard
[09:57] <[LethAL] > ricky, sudo apt-get install usplash
[09:57] <ricky> and after ???
[09:57] <[LethAL] > ricky, It's a bit odd though, doesn't allways work
[09:57] <boboboka> concept10: o.k. I entered the system - > prefs but I cant find the language selector
[09:57] <[LethAL] > ricky, You using grub or lilo?
[09:58] <ricky> grub
[09:58] <delire> zeke1: what's up? is it a wireless network or a standard LAN cable network?
[09:58] <Nameless12> NEED HELP glears is giving me a error and it runs smooth for 2 seconds then goes to 1 fps nameless1@ubuntu:~$ glxgears
[09:58] <Nameless12> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[09:58] <zeke1> delire: its wired
[09:58] <concept10> boboboka, oops try admin
[09:58] <boboboka> concept10: maybe it's in my locale lang. can you describe the icon of it?
[09:58] <delire> Nameless12: running it in root?
[09:58] <zeke1> delire: i had top maually insert the devices into /etc/modules
[09:58] <[LethAL] > ricky, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst as root and make sure the automagic kernels' first option has splash in it, but not vga
[09:58] <zblach> Errors when processing: postfix, mailx, mutt, lsb-core, lsb-graphics, lsb-cxx, lsb
[09:58] <boboboka> concept10: nope. not in admin
[09:59] <zeke1> delire: because i had to disable hotplug to get ubuntu to boot
[09:59] <Nameless12> Delire nope
[09:59] <delire> zblach: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade. what does that do for you?
[09:59] <delire> zeke1: ouch!
[09:59] <ricky> ok i try tks
[09:59] <Nameless12> delire, nope its not in root
[09:59] <concept10> boboboka, system > administration > language selector
[09:59] <zeke1> delire: why?
[09:59] <delire> zeke1: what kind of network, wireless, or cable LAN?
[10:00] <zeke1> delire: i have 2 onboard...one realtek and one marvel
[10:00] <delire> Nameless12: 'glxinfo | grep direct'
[10:00] <[pbC] Obst> k/j #kde
[10:00] <[pbC] Obst> whoops
[10:00] <[pbC] Obst> ^
[10:00] <boboboka> concept10: I don't seem to have it. can that be?
[10:00] <Diskgrind> Ive installed Ubuntu for the first time and now have a notifcation to have updates installed, should I let all 342 updates install all at once?
[10:00] <delire> zeke1: sudo iwconfig and paste the output for me in pastebin.com. then give me the link.
[10:00] <werner> Diskgrind, why not?
[10:01] <delire> zeke1: are you currently online on that machine?
[10:01] <concept10> boboboka, oh that must be on breezy only
[10:01] <Nameless12> delire, the results of that was   Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:01] <Nameless12> direct rendering: No
[10:01] <Nameless12> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[10:01] <Diskgrind> I was just being careful
[10:01] <zeke1> delire: ok but problem is im dual booting with windows so i have to reboot
[10:01] <ricky> now i go to the bed.. nite at all
[10:01] <delire> Nameless12: which gfx card?
[10:02] <werner> lol I can't setup a wireless inet connection to :P
[10:02] <werner> I tryed everyting
[10:02] <werner> root@linuxbak-werner:/home/werner/rt2500-1.1.0-b3/Module # iwconfig
[10:02] <werner> lo        no wireless extensions.
[10:02] <werner> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[10:02] <werner> sit0      no wireless extensions.
[10:02] <Diskgrind> So I will close all apss and let the updater install all updates.
[10:02] <werner> :+
[10:02] <zeke1> delire: i am online with this machine but currently in windows
[10:02] <delire> werner: which card?
[10:02] <Diskgrind> Thanks!
[10:02] <werner> delire, I don' t know.
[10:02] <werner> :P
[10:02] <Nameless12> delire, X800Pro AGP, i got it working (even tho it ran SOO DAMN SLOW compared to in windows, well i did that with 5.04) im on ubuntu preview with all updates + the new drivers for ati
[10:02] <delire> zeke1: right. can you reach the internet on that machine in Ubuntu?
[10:02] <boboboka> concept10: so what can I do?
[10:03] <delire> werner: lspci | grep Net
[10:03] <zeke1> delire: no thats the problem need to setup my network first!!
[10:03] <werner> 0000:01:02:0 Ethernet controller: Linksys, A Division of Cisco Systems [AirConn]  INPROCOMM IPN 2220 Wireless LAN Adapter (rev 01)
[10:03] <werner> :)
[10:03] <werner> that one delire
[10:03] <zeke1> delire: i can give you the device names etc? if u need that
[10:03] <faen> oops ;/
[10:03] <henk> hmm how do i enable my radeon 9200 as much as possible in gnome? i know the ati drivers are not much but i guess there should be something to be gained
[10:03] <delire> Nameless12: right so you should have the driver loaded now.. did you use fglrx?
[10:03] <concept10> boboboka, not sure.. check the wiki
[10:04] <boboboka> where?
[10:04] <delire> zeke1: ifconfig and then paste the output to pastebin.com and give me the URL.
[10:04] <Zeroblitzt> OK, I may as well try upgrading to breezy, because I'm just going to reinstall anyway
[10:04] <zone17> Hi, I updated yesterday to breezy and now I haven't got any sound what so ever, how to I try to solve this?
[10:04] <Zeroblitzt> Wish me luck
[10:04] <zone17> I have never had any sound problems before
[10:04] <Nameless12> delire, i didnt download it off www.ati.com, i got the drivers thru synaptic and i figured that it wouldnt need me to do that. Should i do it now, or am i right to not of done that?
[10:04] <Kyral> !sound
[10:04] <ubotu> [sound]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/
[10:04] <werner> heej spam slower everybody :D
[10:04] <delire> zeke1: if you can't be bothered doing that for whatever reason.. 'ifup eth0'
[10:04] <zeke1> delire: ok then i have to reboot...will u still be here when i get back in 5
[10:05] <delire> Nameless12: ok, let's find out what happened. 'sudo modprobe -l | grep fglrx'
[10:05] <delire> zeke1: probably
[10:05] <Nameless12> delire, /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/volatile/fglrx.ko
[10:06] <zeke1> delire: erm how am i gonna paste it in pastebin.com if i cant access the net from ubuntu
[10:06] <IceDrag0nLX> Hey
[10:06] <dankine> hi
[10:06] <IceDrag0nLX> I have a question about an install script
[10:06] <IceDrag0nLX> A file called onlink.install.sh
[10:06] <dankine> was wondering if anyone could tell me what dpkg does? or point me somewhere that does
[10:07] <delire> zeke1: hehe ok. just try 'sudo ifup eth0'
[10:07] <delire> zeke1: see if you're online after that.
[10:07] <delire> Nameless12: lsmod | grep fglrx
[10:07] <IceDrag0nLX> I run it fine through root ' sudo sh ./onlink.install.sh '
[10:07] <zeke1> ok
[10:07] <IceDrag0nLX> BUT
[10:07] <IceDrag0nLX> root@icex:/home/jason/uplink # slocate -u libSDL_mixer-1.2.so.0
[10:07] <IceDrag0nLX> root@icex:/home/jason/uplink #
[10:07] <IceDrag0nLX> I get that damn error
[10:07] <IceDrag0nLX> oh
[10:07] <delire> zeke1: make sure the cable is plugged in ok?
[10:07] <IceDrag0nLX> damnit
[10:07] <lllmanulll> dankine, dpkg stands for Debian package
[10:07] <maci> hm is there any way t change the pkgs architecutre without a complet reinstall from cd ?
[10:07] <Nameless12> delire, i entered that and nothing happend, was anything meant to be displayed?
[10:07] <zeke1> delire: ok well dont worry about that
[10:08] <vikash> anybody can tell me
[10:08] <zeke1> :)
[10:08] <lllmanulll> dankine, It manages the packages in Ubuntu (and Debian)
[10:08] <dankine> and so it installs from a .deb?
[10:08] <vikash> i got console font failed
[10:08] <IceDrag0nLX> ./onlink.sh: line 40: ./size: No such file or directory
[10:08] <IceDrag0nLX> ./onlink.sh: line 42: [: -eq: unary operator expected
[10:08] <IceDrag0nLX> that damn error
[10:08] <vikash> when v\booting
[10:08] <IceDrag0nLX> What does it mean?
[10:08] <delire> Nameless12: yes. you're fglrx driver isn't loaded. try 'sudo modprobe fglrx'.
[10:08] <lllmanulll> dankine, Among other things, yes : dpkg -i name_of_the_package.deb
[10:08] <protok0l> hello all
[10:08] <dankine> brilliant thankyou
[10:08] <lllmanulll> dankine, This installs the package
[10:08] <neighborlee> hmmm is anyone by chance seeing corrupt images in breezy using resierfs ? ...I just uploaded this  screenshot and its a working url yet it can't be displayed oddly enough:: http://www.heartseed.org/Screenshot.png
[10:08] <delire> s/you're/your
[10:08] <lllmanulll> dankine, No problem
[10:08] <protok0l> im trying to install w32codecs and the repo "deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ testing main" seems to not work
[10:08] <boboboka> does anyone here knows how can I make my system' interface english, but keep the support in my locale lang?
[10:09] <Nameless12> delire,  i did that and got no message after doing it
[10:09] <IceDrag0nLX> Any ideas?
[10:09] <vikash> i get that console font service failed while booting ubuntu
[10:09] <vikash> can anybody tell me
[10:10] <vikash> can i install mplayer in ubuntu
[10:10] <vikash> how can i play real files
[10:10] <delire> Nameless12: that's a good sign - the fglrx (ati) driver is now loaded.. now tell me what happens if you 'cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep fglrx'
[10:10] <freebase`> how do i change a network card driver.. in the bootup it say 8139cp it not a 839c+ compartibel chip.. try 8139too driver instead
[10:10] <Belutz> vikash, yep
[10:10] <vikash> hi belutz
[10:10] <vikash> can u help me
[10:10] <Belutz> vikash, what's the problem?
[10:10] <Nameless12> delire,  Driver          "ati"Driver "fglrx"
[10:10] <Nameless12>       (by the way glxgears still isnt working properly)
[10:11] <vikash> when i boot ubuntu it shows that console font service failed
[10:11] <delire> Nameless12: now restart X (have to do this after loading the new driver) and try glxgears.
[10:11] <Belutz> vikash, are you on breezy?
[10:11] <vikash> what
[10:11] <vikash> i installed ubuntu 5.10
[10:11] <Nameless12> delire, ok, be back in 2min
[10:11] <vikash> today
[10:12] <Belutz> vikash, then you are using breezy, and i can't help you there, because i still on 5.04
[10:12] <vikash> ok anyways thanx
[10:12] <vikash> but how u play .mpg file
[10:12] <Kyral> with VLC
[10:12] <vikash> which player do u use
[10:13] <Belutz> vlc or mplayer or totem-xine
[10:13] <vikash> where can i get it from?
[10:13] <Kyral> apt
[10:13] <nerp> anyone have any idea as to why I am getting an error while logging into one of my yahoo accounts when the other logs in fine.. getting "unknown error 24" (or 34) with text stating to try and login and the site to attempt to fix the problem, also the dialogue has a ab.login.yahoo.com/img/..*.jpg url
[10:13] <vikash> totem player is not playing
[10:13] <nerp> (using gaim)
[10:13] <vikash> .mpg
[10:13] <vikash> and .avi
[10:13] <boboboka> help needed on language issues
[10:13] <Belutz> vikash, you have to install totem-xine, not just totem
[10:13] <shinu> vikash: got the codecs?
[10:14] <nerp> boboboka, like 40 people told you already but you have not bothered to listen
[10:14] <Belutz> and yes of course the codevs
[10:14] <vikash> ok
[10:14] <boboboka> what?
[10:14] <vikash> totem xine
[10:14] <vikash> just library
[10:14] <delire> nerp: boboboka is running breezy so the suggestions perhaps don't apply to him.
[10:14] <vikash> or ui also
[10:14] <vikash> it's completely different from totem??
[10:14] <ramblingturtle> hello, i just updated hoary through synaptic and now i cant run firefox except through sudo anybody willing to help
[10:14] <boboboka> i'm running hoary (i think..)
[10:15] <Belutz> totem-xine is a ui, xine is the engine
[10:15] <Nameless12> delire, its working, can you help me on my dual monitors by the way :) i have tried previously HEAPS OF times with multiple distros it has always shited me off and you seem to know what u are doing, so if you dont mind?
[10:15] <boboboka> and i'm sorry if someone told me how do solve the prob, and I didn't see it and answer..
[10:15] <boboboka> i went to the wiki, but didn't find the help I needed
[10:16] <bimberi> !ff fix
[10:16] <ubotu> well, ff fix is sudo dpkg --purge --force-depends firefox firefox-gnome-support ; sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox mozilla-firefox-gnome-support
[10:16] <vikash> when i tried to install it shows an error that no c compiler is found
[10:16] <delire> Nameless12: well it's late here.. maybe tomorrow. in order for this to work next time, you simply need to ensure you've loaded the driver. so, edit /etc/modules to include the word fglrx.
[10:16] <bimberi> ramblingturtle: try what ubotu just output
[10:16] <Belutz> vikash, install build-essential
[10:16] <vikash> no c compiler found
[10:16] <delire> boboboka: you've done nothing wrong. sadly i can't help because i don't run gnome here.
[10:16] <Nameless12> delire, ok, maybe tomorrow. Thanx for the help :-)
[10:17] <Belutz> vikash, install "build-essential"
[10:17] <vikash> ok
[10:17] <delire> Nameless12: no problem, edit that file though, else when you reboot you'll be back to square one.
[10:17] <vikash> thank
[10:17] <vikash> can   u tell me url
[10:17] <vikash> where it can be found
[10:17] <shinu> vikash: apt-get it
[10:17] <dumfan> So, I've just installed Ubuntu, what package do I need to listen to my MP3s?
[10:17] <funkyHat> vikash, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:17] <delire> boboboka: are you sure that System -> Preferences doesn't have a language selector?
[10:17] <Nameless12> delire, i already rebooted once remember??
[10:17] <Belutz> vikash, from the terminal, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:17] <tuskernini> ubotu, i tried what you said with firefox, but it still just jumps on the bottom bar for a while and does not open...
[10:17] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, tuskernini
[10:17] <freebase`> how do i change a network card driver?? in the bootup it say 8139cp it not a 839c+ compartibel chip.. try 8139too driver instead
[10:18] <shinu> tuskernini: ubotu is a bot i think :)
[10:18] <tuskernini> i am talking about getting firefox to wirk
[10:18] <Belutz> tuskernini, try killall firefox-bin and re run firefox
[10:18] <bimberi> ubotu tell tuskernini about yourself
[10:18] <vikash> can it play avi
[10:18] <boboboka> delire: atleast not in english. and not the direct translation from english to my lang.
[10:18] <delire> Nameless12: was that a reboot or just an X restart. anyway, just ensure that fglrx is in the "load these modules no matter what file" ..
[10:18] <vikash> what is sudo
[10:18] <dumfan> So, I've just installed Ubuntu, what package do I need to listen to my MP3s? Can anybody please tell me this? I love ubuntu, but i really need to get it working
[10:18] <delire> boboboka
[10:18] <boboboka> delire: can you describe the icon?
[10:18] <Belutz> !tell vikash about w32codecs
[10:18] <Kyral> !mp3
[10:18] <ubotu> from memory, mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[10:18] <vikash> actually i have used red hat 9
[10:18] <Nameless12> delire, it was a reboot, i dont know the command to just reboot x
[10:19] <butcherbird> dumfan, take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com
[10:19] <shinu> vikash: type in terminal : man sudo
[10:19] <dumfan> m'kay
[10:19] <Nameless12> delire, its already in the modules file
[10:19] <vikash> ok
[10:19] <delire> boboboka: well i don't run gnome.. what is your native language?
[10:19] <delire> Nameless12: great..
[10:19] <boboboka> hebrew
[10:19] <Belutz> !tell vikash about rootsudo
[10:19] <tuskernini> ok thanks... but it does not work for me anyway...
[10:19] <vikash> i am new to ubuntu
[10:19] <Belutz> tuskernini, what's the problem?
[10:20] <NiLz> !tell NiLz about rootsudo
[10:20] <tuskernini> belutz, i have the firefox upgrade problem...
[10:20] <zone17> Hi, I can't get the sound working after upgrading to breezy, I have a sound blaster audigy card, is there a way to set it up manually?
[10:20] <delire> boboboka: hmm, that's a tough one. i can't attempt a translation.
[10:20] <funkyHat> NiLz, /msg ubotu rootsudo
[10:20] <funkyHat> ;)
[10:20] <henk> delire, whould you be willing to help me out as well? i read your conversation with Nameless12. I want my radeon to work too, however it fails for me when i try to modprobe fglrx
[10:20] <tuskernini> i upgraded and firefox died..
[10:20] <NiLz> funkyHat: ok :)
[10:20] <NiLz> btw
[10:20] <delire> henk: paste the output of the failure in pastebin.com
[10:20] <tuskernini> does not want to start.. now i use epiphany
[10:20] <Belutz> tuskernini, remove firefox package, install mozilla-firefox and mozilla-firefox-gnome-support
[10:20] <NiLz> what users are added to sudo group by default
[10:21] <henk> delire, my box says " operation not permitted"
[10:21] <funkyHat> just the one you added during install
[10:21] <chop> ni
[10:21] <chop> hi
[10:21] <tuskernini> i did it... twice already.. but i will do it again..
[10:21] <chop> new to here
[10:21] <delire> henk: 'sudo modprobe fglrx'
[10:21] <boboboka> delire: what's written in the description of it? (when you move your mouse over it)
[10:21] <NiLz> for instance if I add a new user, will it have permission to excecute sudo as well?
[10:21] <funkyHat> NiLz, no, unless you add it to the group 'admin'
[10:21] <bimberi> NiLz: no, only the user set up during install
[10:21] <Belutz> tuskernini, ok, i'll wait
[10:21] <henk> delire, i'm root
[10:21] <delire> boboboka: again, you'll need to ask others what it looks like. i don't run anything like gnome.
[10:21] <delire> boboboka: is that all the output?
[10:21] <funkyHat> which is an option in the graphical user manager
[10:21] <puff> When it says breezy will be released in octoboer, does that mean beginnning, end, somewhre in there?
[10:21] <Nameless12> if anyone has any experiance with ati cards and \ or dual monitors can you help me out, i have just put my xorg.conf into the paste bin and would apreciate any help http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2545
[10:21] <boboboka> delire: oh right..
[10:21] <tuskernini> i will do it with synaptics this time
[10:22] <delire> henk: sorry, is that all the output?
[10:22] <butcherbird> puff, 13th
[10:22] <freebase`> can anyone tell me how to switch a network card driver?
[10:22] <boboboka> so anyone with gnome can help me for a sec?
[10:22] <NiLz> funkyHat, bimberi thanx
[10:22] <paniq> btw
[10:22] <puff> butcherbird: Ah,thanks.
[10:22] <paniq> i'm hoping to get a WG111 wireless USB adapter to work without ndiswrapper. any help is appreciated.
[10:22] <delire> freebase`: modprobe -r <oldDriver>, modprobe <newDriver>
[10:22] <funkyHat> RC is the 3rd iirc
[10:22] <tuskernini> i had to remove yelp aswell..
[10:22] <NiLz> btw, is it my system or is firefox laggy when opening multiply tabs? I have 1,3ghz athlon and 512mb ram
[10:22] <delire> puff: wise
[10:22] <NiLz> or is it gnome?
[10:22] <Belutz> tuskernini, it's ok, you can reinstall it later
[10:23] <tuskernini> belutz, do i need it?
[10:23] <puff> delire: Which one is?
[10:23] <freebase`> delire, thx i'll try that
[10:23] <Belutz> tuskernini, i don't know, but i don't
[10:23] <NiLz> laggy = slow when switching between the tabs, tabs load slowly on my 10mbit connection
[10:23] <henk> delire, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2546
[10:23] <NiLz> or is there some nvidia tricks I don't know about
[10:23] <delire> NiLz: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8004
[10:23] <vikash> i searched it on google
[10:23] <puff> NiLz: I noticed that, not so much slow as it seemed to hang for fraction of a second after I did alt-tab.
[10:24] <vikash> should i select totem xine for debian
[10:24] <Belutz> vikash, you can install it from synaptic
[10:24] <tuskernini> ok, well see what happens... installing the two you mentioned
[10:24] <delire> henk: lspci | grep VGA
[10:25] <Belutz> tuskernini, ok
[10:25] <delire> puff: see the link i gave NiLz
[10:25] <tuskernini> belutz, same problem.. just shows on the bar for a while and dissapears.. i will start it from the root terminal
[10:25] <minimec_> hallo
[10:26] <NiLz> puff: did you solve this issue anyhow?
[10:26] <vikash> actually  another synaptic is running
[10:26] <delire> NiLz: glxinfo | grep direct
[10:26] <NiLz> cause firefox seems to be faster in winxp
[10:26] <vikash> downloading updates
[10:26] <delire> NiLz: do you have gfx accelleration?
[10:26] <vikash> so i will use it tommorow
[10:26] <Belutz> vikash, you can't have more than one package manager running
[10:26] <NiLz> direct rendering: Yes
[10:26] <tuskernini> belutz, well what do you know.. it starts from the terminal... but why?
[10:26] <vikash> buletz may i know ur yahoo id
[10:26] <henk> delire,  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2547
[10:26] <delire> NiLz: good, just tune up firefox then. it's very fast here with those tweaks..
[10:26] <vikash> how can i contact u
[10:26] <Belutz> tuskernini, what did you type in the terminal?
[10:26] <bimberi> NiLz: This might help http://ubuntuguide.org/#loadwebsitefasterfirefox (one of the ubuntuguide tips that's pretty good)
[10:26] <tuskernini> mozilla-firefox
[10:27] <tuskernini> no -stuff
[10:27] <Belutz> vikash, just ask for help in this channel :)
[10:27] <delire> henk: hmm, where did you get the driver?
[10:27] <vikash> ya it's displaying so
[10:27] <Belutz> tuskernini, now try "killall firefox-bin" and re run firefox
[10:27] <vikash> ok
[10:27] <XHK> Hey
[10:27] <NiLz> bimberi: yes have these added in my config already
[10:27] <vikash> i will do it tomorrow
[10:27] <tuskernini> ok.. will do
[10:27] <vikash> if problem comes i will ask
[10:27] <henk> delire, this is what colony5 /ubuntu 5.10 installed by default i have not done anything yet for the ati
[10:27] <bimberi> NiLz: k :|
[10:27] <NiLz> delire: any other adjustments than those in ubuntuguide?
[10:27] <vikash> it's 2 am here in night
[10:28] <vikash> good night
[10:28] <Werner> back :)
[10:28] <Belutz> vikash, it's 3:27 am in here :p
[10:28] <delire> NiLz: those ones look pretty good to me..
[10:28] <bimberi> NiLz: not known to me sorry
[10:28] <puff> NiLz: No, not really, never got past the more serious problems:-).
[10:28] <vikash> in which country u r
[10:28] <Belutz> vikash, Indonesia
[10:28] <deFrysk> vikash, 2 am is always @ night;p
[10:28] <vikash> well i am in india
[10:28] <delire> henk: hmm 'lsmod | grep fglrx'
[10:28] <Belutz> well, a country of IT :)
[10:28] <tuskernini> belutz, well what do you know.. it worked... what is the -bin for?
[10:28] <vikash> ya
[10:28] <XHK> I just installed ubuntu, but when i move mouse, press a key the screen shakes weirdly :S
[10:28] <tuskernini> binaries
[10:29] <vikash> ok anyways thanx
[10:29] <vikash> good night
[10:29] <Belutz> tuskernini, when firefox is running, it runs firefox-bin
[10:29] <vikash> i have classes from 8 am
[10:29] <delire> henk: any output?
[10:29] <Belutz> tuskernini, glad that it works :)
[10:29] <XHK> I just installed ubuntu, but when i move mouse or press a key the screen shakes weirdly :S Can someone help me, why does it do so?
[10:29] <delire> henk: i have to go soon..
[10:29] <jjazz> XHK:  Perhaps you need to adjust the frequency  in System->Preferences->Screen Resolution
[10:29] <henk> delire, no output
[10:29] <tuskernini> cool, thank you whole hartedly.... belutz
[10:29] <XHK> ok ty
[10:29] <Belutz> tuskernini, you're welcome
[10:29] <delire> henk: hmm 'sudo depmod -ae'
[10:30] <Werner> Do someone know why my wlan card is nog detected by ubuntu in system -> beheer -> network ? :)
[10:30] <henk> delire, no output
[10:30] <viktor> my opera is segfaulting when i try to start it :((
[10:30] <kemik> Werner:  wlancards are a hassle
[10:30] <Werner> hassle?
[10:30] <viktor> anyone else that had the same problem with the new opera?
[10:30] <kemik> Werner:  see if the manufacturer has drivers or use ndiswrapper
[10:30] <delire> henk: i think you may have somehow installed the wrong fglrx driver. perhaps you are running xorg and the driver you have is for xfree86. try 'sudo modinfo fglrx'
[10:30] <kemik> !tell Werner about wireless
[10:31] <deFrysk> viktor, here it chrashes when it does a java-applet
[10:31] <henk> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2548
[10:31] <tuskernini> i just came back from work and i am glad to see that the forums are online again...
[10:31] <zeke1> delire: hey me again...ifconfig only puts out the LO: loopback interface and thats all
[10:31] <viktor> deFrysk, i cant even start it P i just get some liberrors then it segfault
[10:32] <deFrysk> viktor, I use the static.deb
[10:32] <tuskernini> ! tell tuskernini about wireless
[10:32] <ubotu> tuskernini: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[10:32] <viktor> deFrysk, oh ok thanks
[10:32] <henk> delire, i have not installed anything special (yet) this is what came with ubuntu (just installed 1 hour ago)
[10:32] <Belutz> nite guys
[10:32] <tuskernini> nete belutz
[10:32] <tuskernini> nite..
[10:32] <logan001101> hello
[10:32] <viktor> oh nice, a static.deb :)
[10:33] <logan001101> hi
[10:33] <logan001101> new to here
[10:33] <zeke1> delire: hey me again...ifconfig only puts out the LO: loopback interface and thats all
[10:33] <delire> henk: hmm can you 'lsmod | grep ati
[10:33] <zeke1> delire: after i run sudo ifup eth0...it says ignoring device....
[10:33] <delire> henk: 'lsmod | grep ati'
[10:34] <delire> zeke1: 'lspci | grep Net' for me again?
[10:34] <Werner> there are only 3 cisco wlan cards supported in ubuntu? :(
[10:34] <Werner> and not the one I have?
[10:34] <henk> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2549
[10:35] <jita> does shipit will send cds to india. i am on limited bandwidth and could not afford to download the cds :(
[10:36] <Werner> 0000:01:02.0 Ethernet controller: Linksys, A Division of Cisco Systems [AirConn]  INPROCOMM IPN 2220 Wireless LAN Adapter (rev 01)
[10:36] <Werner>  << why ubuntu don' t support that bitch of a wlan card? :P
[10:36] <kemik> Werner:  try ndiswrapper then
[10:36] <Werner> kemik, is that a commando in the terminal?
[10:36] <kemik> Werner:  read the wifi howto
[10:36] <ME> helo
[10:37] <tuskernini> werner, probeer die ubuntu support blaaie
[10:37] <henk> delire, kern.log says http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2550
[10:37] <Werner> I' m going to sleep now :)
[10:37] <Werner> tuskernini, cool idee :D
[10:38] <delire> henk: ok that could be an issue. 'sudo modprobe -r drm && sudo modprobe fglrx'
[10:38] <henk> FATAL: Module drm is in use.
[10:39] <delire> henk: ok, well you'll have to leave X and do this. then go back into X again. have you used Linux before? it seems so..
[10:39] <Ryouga> okay, something's borked in the preview release livecd... when x starts it just throws garbage on the screen no matter what video modes I give it
[10:40] <Ryouga> using a 6600GT
[10:40] <henk> delire, yes i know linux pretty well, however this is my first time using it on the desktop. until know stritly servers
[10:40] <henk> delire i'll be back soon
[10:40] <delire> henk: right, well then you should be fine.. ;)
[10:40] <logan001101> any one know how to install warcraft on ubuntu
[10:40] <concept10> Anyone know what is the mplayer-plugin package on breezy?
[10:40] <zeke1> delire: 0000:02:00.0 Ethernet Controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd: Unknown device 4362 (rev 19)
[10:41] <Ryouga> anyone have any ideas? I've tried changing video modes and whatnot, doesn't seem to help
[10:42] <Rambo3> in what map on install CD is the kernel-image ?
[10:43] <zeke1> delire:afteri do lspci | grep net this is what i get:  0000:02:00.0 Ethernet Controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd: Unknown device 4362 (rev 19)
[10:43] <logan001101> anyone have a idea on my problem, i installed warcraft 3 in ubuntu but it require CD what can i do ????
[10:44] <[LethAL] > logan001101, Insert the CD
[10:44] <logan001101> ??
[10:44] <logan001101> the CD already in the cd rom
[10:44] <[LethAL] > logan001101, Put the Warcraft 3 CD in the computer
[10:44] <logan001101> i have already install cedega
[10:45] <GNeRaL> wine = is legal ?
[10:45] <oO[NOVA] Oo> [LethAL] : in the computer? okay.. *breaks open PC, dumps CD on mainboard*
[10:45] <logan001101> no
[10:45] <Gnonthgol> GNeRaL: yes
[10:45] <logan001101> i cant find wine anywhere
[10:45] <logan001101> and my brother recommend me to install cedega
[10:45] <[LethAL] > LMAO@ oO[NOVA] Oo
[10:45] <zeke1> delire: u still there?
[10:46] <narg> Where would the autodownloaded firefox extension be located? Im attempting to import it into konq, but I cant find it.
[10:46] <logan001101> what can i do now???
[10:46] <[LethAL] > Try both, cedega usually works better for games
[10:46] <logan001101> um
[10:46] <wolverian> hey, this is a bit OT, but does anyone know a fix for screen's A^ F command not working properly (that is, fitting to a wrong size)
[10:46] <logan001101> i tried
[10:47] <logan001101> i copy the war3 folder from window to the c_driver in cedega
[10:47] <logan001101> then cedega ...exe
[10:47] <delire> zeke1: yes, just
[10:47] <logan001101> but i still require a cd
[10:47] <ohphracku> hey peeps where dose enemy-territory isntall too? what dir.
[10:47] <delire> zeke1: can you lspci and paste it to a pastebin?
[10:47] <logan001101> i hv already crack war3.exe in windows
[10:47] <delire> zeke1: this is the only way i can help from here.
[10:48] <[LethAL] > logan001101, search on digitalconquest.ath.cx
[10:48] <zeke1> delire: i wrote it out for you
[10:48] <adjacent> i dist-upgraded to breezy today, after reboot xorg is broken. im using nvidia driver, but it says it couldnt find the module, so i installed linux-modules-restricted-2.6.12-9 and nvidia was found...
[10:48] <tristanmike> narg, check ./mozilla
[10:48] <delire> zeke1: yes, i want to full output.
[10:48] <henk> delire, i restarted and along the way managed to get fglrx inserted i think let me check
[10:48] <delire> zeke1: *the
[10:48] <adjacent> however i get pci parity errors on the console. so something is wrong
[10:48] <tristanmike> narg, in your home folder that is
[10:48] <logan001101> trying
[10:48] <adjacent> and if i switch to nv, i get default font 'fixed' not found errors
[10:48] <delire> henk: excellent. that pesky drm module wants to handle Direct Rendering Management for you.
[10:48] <zeke1> delire:afteri do delire: im not in ubuntu now do u really need all of it cause there is no way i can access the net from ubuntu
[10:49] <delire> zeke1: shit i forgot, sorry.
[10:49] <adjacent> is this reparable by installing the correct packages, or am i screwed?
[10:49] <logan001101> sorry i miss the url :p
[10:49] <[LethAL] > adjacent, I didn't think it was fatal
[10:49] <henk> delire, yes i got that. anyway modprobe fglrx gives no output now so that seems ok
[10:49] <delire> zeke1: right, well i don't know that network card at all. all i can suggest is googling for it.
[10:49] <piercedh20> nerp: are you still here?
[10:49] <zeke1> delire: np what else do u need to know
[10:49] <logan001101> ??
[10:49] <[LethAL] > logan001101, http://digitalconquest.ath.cx
[10:49] <delire> henk: to test 'glxinfo'
[10:49] <nerp> yes
[10:49] <narg> tristanmike: negative
[10:49] <evian> anybody know what the ubuntuguide is referring to when it says "How to configure sound to work properly in GNOME?"
[10:49] <[LethAL] > !ubuntuguide
[10:49] <adjacent> [LethAL] : yeh. it gives me a fatal error
[10:49] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[10:49] <zeke1> delire: ok i hAVE A REALTEK ASWELL
[10:50] <sunshine> hi can someone help me
[10:50] <Hikaru79> Nice new forum skin, guys! it looks prettiful :D
[10:50] <piercedh20> nerp: I still get the following error when trying ti compile xmms after doing your steps: configure: error: *** GLIB >= 1.2.2 not installed - please install first ***
[10:50] <funkyHat> sunshine, just ask
[10:50] <delire> zeke1: excellent, a good card. 'modprobe -l | grep rtl'
[10:50] <sunshine> i need to install java
[10:50] <evian> ok LethAL
[10:50] <sunshine> im on breezy
[10:50] <zeke1> delire: if i modprobe 8139too it gives no errors
[10:50] <tristanmike> narg, you know how to find hidden folders
[10:50] <logan001101> ubuntuguide?
[10:50] <henk> delire, that gives a lof out ouput
[10:50] <delire> zeke1: you're in business. 'ifup eth0'
[10:50] <sunshine> I do not have w32codec on my computer
[10:50] <henk> what are you looking fir ?>
[10:50] <evian> !faq
[10:50] <ubotu> methinks faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/
[10:50] <nerp> piercedh20, weird
[10:50] <henk> for
[10:50] <piercedh20> Very weird
[10:50] <tristanmike> !ubotu tell logan001101 about ubuntuguide
[10:50] <[LethAL] > logan001101, It's rubbish, just evian was talking about it
[10:50] <nerp> i haven't much ideas after that
[10:50] <zeke1> delire: it says no such devive
[10:50] <piercedh20> ok, thanks anyways
[10:50] <funkyHat> sunshine, install the package java-package through synaptic
[10:51] <sunshine> and when I read ubuntu wiki it said that breezy should have jre but it soesnt
[10:51] <delire> henk: excellent. looking good. 'glxinfo | grep direct' (to find out if you have 'direct' or fast rendering.
[10:51] <logan001101> ??
[10:51] <nerp> np
[10:51] <delire> zeke1: ifconfig
[10:51] <logan001101> what wrong with U
[10:51] <piercedh20> Can anyone else help me with the following error message during compile of xmms: configure: error: *** GLIB >= 1.2.2 not installed - please install first ***
[10:51] <[LethAL] > logan001101, Don't worry, ignore the ubuntuguide stuff
[10:51] <JonnyRo> Is there any way to read my e-mail stored in evolution remotely
[10:51] <JonnyRo> ?
[10:51] <logan001101> no
[10:51] <narg> tristanmike: yes ;P
[10:51] <zeke1> delire: only the loopback interface is displayed
[10:51] <henk> direct rendering: No
[10:51] <henk> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[10:51] <JonnyRo> via mutt over ssh?
[10:51] <evian> Lethal, the reason I asked is that sound in skype wasn't working right for me
[10:51] <funkyHat> sunshine, download the .bin of the jre from sun's website, and run it with make-jpkg (which is installed by java-package)
[10:51] <logan001101> the ubuntuguide doesnt work
[10:51] <evian> ok
[10:51] <funkyHat> then install the .deb that that generates
[10:51] <sunshine> ok java package is install what do I do now
[10:51] <logan001101> i tried some
[10:51] <tristanmike> narg, ok, sorry to assume, what extention are you talking about?
[10:52] <delire> zeke1: strange.. 'depmod -ae'
[10:52] <logan001101> even i cant install the w32codecs
[10:52] <[LethAL] > !tell evian about skype
[10:52] <delire> henk: ok, well we're getting there. 'depmod -ae'
[10:52] <sunshine> i've download i but how do I run it with makek dpkg
[10:52] <narg> tristanmike: I was after flash, and I found it with slocate. Its in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/
[10:52] <logan001101> evian?
[10:52] <narg> tristanmike: But thanks anyway ;)
[10:52] <henk> delire, no output
[10:52] <funkyHat> sunshine, make-jpkg *name of .bin file*
[10:52] <delire> henk: can you now paste the full output of glxinfo to a terminal to me?
[10:52] <[LethAL] > logan001101, have you looked on that site yet?
[10:53] <delire> henk: sorry, to a pastebin..
[10:53] <logan001101> iyes
[10:53] <logan001101> i hv
[10:53] <tristanmike> narg, no prob, thanx for the info, i'll make a note for future reference :)
[10:53] <kemik> hmmmm how broken would my system be if i installl the ATI drivers from breezy into my Hoary system? !
[10:53] <funkyHat> sunshine, if it complains about root, then run it through sudo
[10:53] <delire> zeke1: so ifconfig shows no other devices..
[10:53] <funkyHat> i can't remember if it does or not
[10:53] <logan001101> ubuntuguide.org right?
[10:53] <Serv|nokia> hello
[10:53] <[LethAL] > logan001101, no, http://digitalconquest.ath.cx
[10:53] <Serv|nokia> [23:41:27]  <Serv|nokia> can somebody help me whit that: /home/steam: /home/steam: cannot execute binary file
[10:53] <Serv|nokia> [23:41:36]  <Serv|nokia> root@box031:/home # file /home/steam
[10:53] <Serv|nokia> [23:41:36]  <Serv|nokia> /home/steam: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped
[10:53] <Serv|nokia> [23:41:55]  <intero> zerve_the_death: 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV36 [GeForce FX 5700LE]  (rev a1)
[10:53] <zeke1> delire: i did remove hotplug in the beggining to actually boot into ubuntu...is this a problem
[10:53] <logan001101> no
[10:53] <Serv|nokia> can somebody help me whit that?
[10:53] <logan001101> cant found it
[10:53] <[LethAL] > Seveas, DON'T PASTE IN HERE
[10:53] <[LethAL] > Serv|nokia*
[10:53] <henk> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2551
[10:53] <delire> zeke1: hmm it shouldn't be.. we are manually doing this here..
[10:54] <Serv|nokia> tes sorry but i need help whit that
[10:54] <delire> henk: cheers
[10:54] <kemik> Serv|nokia:  you should read the topic when entering a new channel
[10:54] <funkyHat> ubotu, tell Serv|nokia about pastebin
[10:54] <Seveas> Serv|nokia, that's no reason to paste
[10:54] <logan001101> some thing wrong lethal
[10:54] <[LethAL] > logan001101, What is?
[10:54] <Seveas> lots op people refuse to help if you do that
[10:54] <darkwise> I wanna put xcdroast on my ubuntu box, whats the easiest way to go about it?
[10:54] <kemik> Serv|nokia:  a general guideline to IRC
[10:54] <logan001101> i cant found the digitalconquest
[10:54] <zeke1> delire: ok so i added 8139too to /etc/modules and still nothing
[10:55] <logan001101> is it right url
[10:55] <logan001101> ????
[10:55] <Serv|nokia> even google dosent help me whit that
[10:55] <[LethAL] > logan001101, I think it moved to http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/index.php?title=Main_Page
[10:55] <darkwise> Because this burning software that came with ubuntu isn't working.
[10:55] <henk> delire, glxgears became very slow btw
[10:55] <darkwise> And I'm kinda pissed.
[10:55] <Serv|nokia> i have tryd it to get work for 7h
[10:55] <Serv|nokia> and i can't to it
[10:55] <delire> henk: ok no problem, you need the rest of the ATI distribution of OpenGL. 'apt-cache search fglrx' and give me the list.
[10:55] <delire> henk: yes it will be..
[10:55] <kemik> Seveas:  what you think of installing the breezy-fglrx package into hoary? doomed to break my system ?
[10:55] <evian> !skype
[10:55] <ubotu> skype is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/, or deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free
[10:55] <logan001101> oh man
[10:55] <logan001101> how can i copy from here?
[10:56] <darkwise> I've noticed a couple pre-compiled programs that come on the install cd don't work out the box.
[10:56] <sunshine> 2 things i've download jre but when i went to open it Could not open the file "/home/sunshine/Desktop/jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.bin"
[10:56] <Serv|nokia> so nobody can't help me?
[10:56] <darkwise> Its nerve-racking
[10:56] <[LethAL] > logan001101, What do you mean?
[10:56] <kemik> logan001101:  which irc-client are you using ?
[10:56] <logan001101> it goes too fast
[10:56] <delire> zeke1: well what was the output from modprobe -l | grep rtl
[10:56] <logan001101> i lost the url
[10:56] <Seveas> kemik, doom it is :)
[10:56] <[LethAL] > logan001101, Do you mid if I PM you?
[10:56] <[LethAL] > mind*
[10:56] <henk> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2552
[10:56] <logan001101> ok
[10:56] <sunshine> and i try make jpkg and it said the file doesn't exist
[10:56] <logan001101> no pro
[10:56] <delire> henk: cheers..
[10:56] <kemik> mmh. was sortof expecting that answer :/
[10:56] <logan001101> ip logan1011001
[10:56] <logan001101> sorry
[10:56] <zeke1> delire: ok im gonna have to check] 
[10:56] <logan001101> IM logan101100
[10:57] <logan001101> IM logan1011001
[10:57] <darkwise> Can I get some help, or am I just spitting into the wind coming in here asking?
[10:57] <Serv|nokia> can somebody help me whit: cannot execute binary file or not?
[10:57] <logan001101> sorry
[10:57] <logan001101> what is your IM?
[10:57] <kemik> Serv|nokia:  paste your error on pastebin
[10:57] <[LethAL] > logan001101, I just PM'ed you the url
[10:57] <darkwise> I want help and you fags are trading im screen names. nice.
[10:57] <logan001101> PM, do you mean use Yahoo ?
[10:57] <butcherbird> darkwise, sudo apt-get install xcdroast if thats what you want. or gnomebaker etc
[10:57] <zeke1> delire: what is rtl?
[10:57] <[LethAL] > logan001101, no
[10:58] <logan001101> sorry
[10:58] <logan001101> im a newbie
[10:58] <Seveas> dark, language,,,
[10:58] <Strog> gone
[10:58] <[LethAL] > logan001101, Do you see a button that says [LethAL]  in red?
[10:58] <logan001101> nob
[10:58] <logan001101> it yellow
[10:59] <butcherbird> nooo
[10:59] <Serv|nokia> kemik done and next?
[10:59] <logan001101> i mean your name is yello
[10:59] <[LethAL] > No, a button
[10:59] <logan001101> not red
[10:59] <ceviz|laptop> he had too much coffee
[10:59] <kemik> Serv|nokia:  paste the URL here so we can see what you pasted
[10:59] <sunshine> there only two option .bin or rpm.bin
[10:59] <[LethAL] > logan001101, down the bottom of the window
[10:59] <Serv|nokia> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2554
[10:59] <Epix> Hey. I want to set up a music system on Ubuntu. What software do you recomend for recording/mixing? What about MIDI? What hardware do you recomend for plugging in mics and instruments... And feel free to PM, I have more questions :P
[10:59] <logan001101> im using the irsii
[10:59] <logan001101> in terminal
[10:59] <lucky> hi guys, ubuntu won't install.
[10:59] <lucky> when it gets to partitioning
[10:59] <logan001101> not xchat
[10:59] <Blissex> Epix: look at the aGNUla and CCRAM projects for ideas...
[10:59] <lucky> i just get the partition thing with ????? ????? in the window
[10:59] <[LethAL] > logan001101, Oh... which number are you on above where you type?
[11:00] <Blissex> Epix: look at the aGNUla and CCRMA projects for ideas...
[11:00] <lucky> and it just loops endlessly
[11:00] <someuser> hi can someone help me woth screen refresh rates?
[11:00] <[LethAL] > logan001101, probably 2 or 3, no?
[11:00] <[LethAL] > someuser, What's the problem
[11:00] <shinu> [LethAL] : wait a sec
[11:00] <logan001101> 2
[11:00] <logan001101> it w
[11:00] <shinu> leonel: ill explain to him
[11:00] <zeke1> delire: im gonna have to use the marvell fro now...how can i find out what its device is on the net?
[11:00] <logan001101> it's 2
[11:00] <shinu> leonel: sorry wrong name :P
[11:00] <[LethAL] > logan001101, press alt-3
[11:00] <someuser> i'm getting only 60 Hz
[11:00] <shinu> [LethAL] : ill explain to him :P
[11:00] <[LethAL] > someuser, hoary or breezy?
[11:00] <Serv|nokia> somebody know something about: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2554
[11:00] <[LethAL] > shinu, thanks
[11:00] <kemik> Serv|nokia:  first off, it's owned by root and second the +x flag isnt set
[11:00] <Epix> Blissex: But, i want to use Ubuntu, not another distro
[11:00] <delire> henk: sorry, phone. 'apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx' if that gives you problems you'll need to 'dpkg -i --force-overwrite xorg-driver-fglrx...deb'
[11:01] <Serv|nokia> kemik i have set now the +x and same problem
[11:01] <someuser> sory?
[11:01] <Blissex> Epix: you can look at those to see what you can get and what other people rate as useful.
[11:01] <kemik> Serv|nokia:  and it's supposed to be a binary executable ?
[11:01] <delire> zeke1: google.com/linux and search for the name given in the lspci output. also look in the Supported Hardware pages in the ubuntu wiki.
[11:01] <Serv|nokia> kemik: yes
[11:01] <Epix> Blissex: ok, thanks. but i would also tike to talk to people about it
[11:01] <henk> delire, np running the install hang on
[11:01] <someuser> i do not know what you mean?
[11:01] <Serv|nokia> kemik: even hldsupdatetoo.bin dosent work same problem
[11:02] <sunshine> funky...
[11:02] <Blissex> Epix: also look at this semi-commercial package for inspiration: http://www.ferventsoftware.com/ several people think it is the best integrated audio Linux/Debian/... based package they have seen.
[11:02] <henk> delire,  done seems to have gone ok
[11:02] <kemik> Serv|nokia:  "sudo chown youruser:youruser" and also "chmod a+x file"
[11:02] <cevizoglu> hey guys, do you think the overall experience for someone on a budget with Ubuntu is better with a IBM/Lenovo 15" Thinkpad G 3ghz, or a 15" Powerbook 1.5ghz, same RAM and HD size, and the extra 2 lbs. doesn't matter
[11:02] <delvit> night and thanx
[11:02] <sunshine> funky...
[11:03] <funkyHat> yeah
[11:03] <funkyHat> me?
[11:03] <Serv|nokia> kemik: same problem cannot execute...
[11:03] <sunshine> there is only two optio .bin or rpm.bin what should I do now you said somethin about .deb
[11:03] <[LethAL] > someuser, what was your problem again, refresh rates?
[11:03] <delire> henk: ok. just a mo..
[11:03] <someuser> hi can someone help me woth screen refresh rates? (in privet plz, i can't keep up with text lines)
[11:03] <Rev_Fry> no no no!  Not Dapper Drake.  Wooly Wolverine
[11:03] <[LethAL] > someuser, I'll do it
[11:04] <Rev_Fry> Drake just blows the whole dang naming scheme
[11:04] <ascanio> qualche italiano in linea?
[11:04] <delire> henk: ls -l  /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so
[11:04] <someuser> can you come to privet
[11:04] <[LethAL] > !it
[11:04] <ubotu> [LethAL] : Are you smoking crack?
[11:04] <Serv|nokia> kemik: i'm using 64bit ubuntu
[11:04] <Blissex> ascanio: forse...
[11:05] <funkyHat> (same as the opera one from the other day as well)
[11:05] <Blissex> cevizoglu: those two seem pretty good. But consider the peripherals and battery life.
[11:05] <delire> funkyHat: now that it's been bought by eBay, i don't expect too much from it in near future. i'm looking at kphone atm.
[11:05] <ascanio> ciao Blissex, ho un problema potresti aiutarmi?
[11:05] <sunshine> funky can you please help me?
[11:05] <henk> Delgul, ls: /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so: No such file or directory
[11:06] <kemik> Serv|nokia:  not sure if that would be a problem.. perhaps it is...
[11:06] <delire> henk: ls -l  /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so*
[11:06] <Blissex> delire: KPHone.... AHAHAH. Also try KIAX.
[11:06] <delire> henk: try that..
[11:06] <funkyHat> sunshine, sure, what's the problem?
[11:06] <funkyHat> sorry i must have missed it
[11:06] <delire> Blissex: i haven't looked at either. is it good?
[11:06] <Blissex> delire: KPhone and KIAX are the best freeware softphones probably, but they ain't that good.
[11:06] <sunshine> i trold ya i would likek to install java
[11:06] <Blissex> delire: they sort of work, but not awesomely.
[11:06] <zeke1> delire: ok seems like the new kernel has support for it... 2.6
[11:06] <delire> Blissex: what about this 'linphone'?
[11:06] <Epix> Another question, how do i hook up a usb midi keyboard to Ubuntu. Its an evolution.
[11:06] <kemik> Rev_Fry:  well, the ubuntu namingscheme sucks @$$
[11:06] <henk> delire, that gives output some softlinks
[11:06] <Blissex> delire: much worse, at least the version I saw.
[11:06] <delire> henk: excellent. what are the dates on those links?
[11:07] <Rev_Fry> kemik: perhaps.. but it was cute and consistent... now I'm left thinking of Mandrake.
[11:07] <funkyHat> well skype doesn't actually work here anyway, it would do if they would get round to bothering to use alsa
[11:07] <delire> zeke1: good work! good researching..
[11:07] <henk> 23/9/05
[11:07] <Blissex> ascanio: leggiti codeste note quanto a come fare domande costi`: http://tinyurl.com/bz8v4
[11:07] <someuser> LethAL plz com back :}
[11:07] <Rev_Fry> Wooly Wolverine.... Wonky Wolf.  Come on.. there's tons of them.. why dapper drake?  People are already saying "Gay Duck"
[11:07] <kemik> funkyHat:  follow the "gandalf howto on sound" (esd+alsa)
[11:07] <zeke1> delire: so how do i get the new kernel and install???? :)
[11:07] <someuser> LethAL plz com back :}
[11:08] <Serv|nokia> kemik: i have installed in other machine 32bit ubuntu and there it works
[11:08] <funkyHat> kemik, that's not the problem :P
[11:08] <kemik> funkyHat:  then you'll get skype to work.. or wait for breezy, i think breezy has anohter soundsystem (hopefully a good one)
[11:08] <Blissex> delire: KIAX seems better, but it is less finished than KPhone.
[11:08] <snausages> can anyone help me install w32codecs? i added the backports to my repository and i still get " Package w32codecs has no installation candidate"
[11:08] <delire> henk: hmm.. well what about 'ls -l /usr/lib/libGL.so*'
[11:08] <henk> delire, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2556 to be exact
[11:08] <kemik> Serv|nokia:  so let's blame the 64bit version then ;)
[11:08] <funkyHat> kemik, besides, skype only uses oss
[11:08] <someuser> ...LethAL plz com back :}
[11:08] <delire> henk: cheers..
[11:08] <Blissex> delire: also KIAX uses the IAX2 protocol, which is easy on firewalls etc.
[11:08] <funkyHat> kemik, i am on breezy. looks like it's using esd to me ;). although i'm using polypaudio
[11:08] <sunshine> another question then how do i get my sound to work i can watch dvd and see the music payer workin but ican't hear i have test my speaker can anyone help
[11:08] <Sonny_Wertzik> hello.
[11:09] <someuser> hi can someone help me woth screen refresh rates? (in privet plz, i can't keep up with text lines)
[11:09] <Serv|nokia> kemik: you dont know how to fix it? its the most important file in the server
[11:09] <delire> henk: a bit strange, but let's give it a shot. restart X and then glxinfo | grep direct.
[11:09] <kemik> funkyHat:  ahh ok.. well http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063 got skype and most other apps to work for me
[11:09] <Blissex> sunshine: follow the troubleshooting section of http://tinyurl.com/4ogk2 and consider switching to #ALSA
[11:09] <delire> Blissex: good point, very interesting..
[11:09] <henk> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2559
[11:09] <kemik> Serv|nokia:  nope, no idea.. i wouldn run the 64bit kernel ;)
[11:09] <funkyHat> sunshine, how much have you managed to do out of the things i said earlier? did you manage to build the .deb of the jdk using java-package?
[11:09] <someuser> hi can someone help me woth screen refresh rates? (in privet plz, i can't keep up with text lines)
[11:10] <henk> delire, ok restarting X now
[11:10] <Sonny_Wertzik> can someone tell me how to install the new jre files?
[11:10] <kemik> (but then, that guide applies for hoary and not breezy)
[11:10] <someuser> plz?
[11:10] <atila_sendil> Hello; anyone had problems with unending updates after installing backports ? it installs the packages again and again ...
[11:10] <zeke1> delire: so how do i get the new kernel and install???? :) if i cant access the net from ubuntu
[11:11] <Sonny_Wertzik> someuser, pick up da phone
[11:11] <someuser> how?
[11:11] <ppine> Hello, anyone a clue why i get "  i686-pc-linux-': machine not recognized." when doing a .configure
[11:11] <Sonny_Wertzik> someuser, at the bottom of screen there are tabs
[11:12] <someuser> yes, i can see 2 ubuntu & servers
[11:12] <Serv|nokia> dam i
[11:12] <Serv|nokia> t
[11:12] <Serv|nokia> nobody dosent know about it
[11:12] <Serv|nokia> who made this shit then ? :D
[11:12] <kemik> Serv|nokia:  try the forums
[11:12] <henk> delire, still 'no' on direct rendering
[11:12] <delire> zeke1: sadly i have to go pretty soon and that's a big topic. for now though we should be able to get your realtek card up and running. was there any output from 'modprobe -l | grep rtl'? i was on the phone. rtl is often the first three letters of a rtl8139
[11:12] <Epix> Is Ardour any good?
[11:12] <delire> henk: a shame, but you're super close.
[11:12] <delire> Epix: yes
[11:12] <henk> delire,  do i need to update my xorg.conf?
[11:13] <Epix> delire: can i use it to pass sound through and out speakers?
[11:13] <Sonny_Wertzik> someuser, check bottoms tabs again
[11:13] <zeke1> delire: no it doesnt give me anything
[11:14] <delire> henk: well you might want to try backing it up and then running fglrxconfig. if you can't be bothered poking around, you can just purge all teh fglrx packages from your machine and grab the full installer for linux from the ATI webpage. it really works..
[11:14] <Serv|nokia> dam it
[11:14] <delire> zeke1: right.. hmm well i would talk to someone else in the know here. i have to eat dinner before midnight.
[11:14] <Serv|nokia> i hate linux :(
[11:14] <delire> Epix: yes.
[11:14] <Serv|nokia> sometimes
[11:14] <bimberi> Serv|nokia: try "chmod +x steam", then ./steam again
[11:14] <delire> Serv|nokia: hehe
[11:14] <Sonny_Wertzik> someuser, u shold be seeing my name in a tab at the bottom
[11:15] <Epix> delire: easier to use than cubase? :P
[11:15] <Serv|nokia> bimberi it dosent work
[11:15] <someuser> i can se
[11:15] <zeke1> delire: cool thanks for the help
[11:15] <someuser> i'm there
[11:15] <henk> delire, hmm ok
[11:15] <Serv|nokia> mby its the kernel problem?
[11:15] <delire> Epix: no, it's more like pro-tools. it hasn't gone gold yet, but it's very good. see rosegarden, hydrogen, pure data also.
[11:15] <freebase`> how do i shutdown X? im trying to install nvidia driver
[11:15] <devios> daejavu: did you actually test your solution "install mplayer and mozilla plugins for mplayer and enjoy" with the streaming audio link @ krock2.com?
[11:16] <Serv|nokia> kemik: can it be a kernel problem?
[11:16] <delire> zeke1: anytime, you're close to a solution and already patient. good on you.
[11:16] <kemik> Serv|nokia:  i dont know.. if it's a 32bit application and you're running 64bit kernel then that may verywell be the error
[11:16] <jaku> is still possible to install w32codecs?
[11:16] <puff> Hm, does ubuntu by default have some sort of ipchains or ipfilters to block (for example) accepting requests on port 80?
[11:16] <Serv|nokia> omfg
[11:16] <delire> henk: https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=27
[11:16] <Serv|nokia> about that :
[11:16] <Serv|nokia> p
[11:16] <Sonny_Wertzik> someuser,  dont worry ill tell u what u need to know in the main era here
[11:17] <bimberi> Serv|nokia: so still "No such file or directory"
[11:17] <funkyHat> freebase`, ctrl+alt+ f1-6 (7 is X). log in, and sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[11:17] <bimberi> ?
[11:17] <someuser> ok
[11:17] <evian> !skype
[11:17] <ubotu> skype is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/, or deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free
[11:17] <kemik> Serv|nokia:  afaik the CPU itself can execute 32bit code, but im not sure how the 64bit kernel handles 32bit code.. never read about it
[11:17] <Sonny_Wertzik> someuser, what do u want to know 1st?
[11:17] <freebase`> funkyHat, thank you
[11:17] <delire> henk: make sure you purge (dpkg -P <package>) all other fglrx installs on that machine and back up your xorg.conf before trying this installer out. just choose defaults when prompted.
[11:17] <someuser> i'm getting only 60Hz screen Refresh Rate & it's not comforteble on the eye's
[11:18] <someuser> i have ASUS 8200 GeForce 3 Ti200
[11:18] <Serv|nokia> kemik: i know
[11:18] <Serv|nokia> the answer
[11:18] <Serv|nokia> fuck it
[11:18] <Serv|nokia> .p
[11:18] <delire> henk: once done, leave X 'sudo modprobe -r fglrx; sudo modprobe fglrx && startx' to check.
[11:18] <Sonny_Wertzik> someuser, ok did u try switching it in the system-preferences-screen resolution menu?
[11:18] <Serv|nokia> just hate it and crash evrything
[11:18] <JonnyRo> some angry people are operating in here today
[11:18] <JonnyRo> usually like this?
[11:19] <Serv|nokia> kemik: http://www.64bit-world.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-3952.html
[11:19] <someuser> yes, but there is only one option - of 60Hz - no othe options. ( Ican't change)
[11:19] <logan001101> any one know link to point2play
[11:19] <delire> JonnyRo: no the three i've seen are having problem with third-party applications.
[11:19] <someuser> no other*
[11:19] <logan001101> any one know link to point2play
[11:19] <JonnyRo> delire: i bet the evil face of ubuntuguide.org keeps popping up as well
[11:19] <Sonny_Wertzik> someuser, OK...fine...i forgot to ask are u using gnome or KDE?
[11:19] <Serv|nokia> kemik: mby i update to the lastest kernel?
[11:20] <delire> henk, zeke1 ciao and good luck.
[11:20] <someuser> gnome
[11:20] <Serv|nokia> where i can get the latest kernel
[11:20] <logan001101> any one know link to point2play heeeeeellllllllppppppppppppp
[11:20] <Serv|nokia> i haven't done it :d
[11:20] <JonnyRo> it sortof takes away the benifit of debugging a common system if people go and change all the innerds
[11:20] <Sonny_Wertzik> some ok cool...are u ready....
[11:20] <adjacent> mine isnt a 3rd party problem =( and it has me stumped also
[11:20] <someuser> oh and it's on a Live-CD
[11:20] <zeke1> can someon help me get my marvel net card to work? :)
[11:20] <SQFreak> Does KDE work on the breezy preview?
[11:20] <cevizoglu> SQFreak: yeah, on kubuntu
[11:20] <funkyHat> yes
[11:21] <WhiteRabbit> hey it's CavalierBob!
[11:21] <adjacent> can i go back to hoary with a dist-upgrade?
[11:21] <Sonny_Wertzik> someuser, ok u know where file browser is?
[11:21] <SQFreak> cevizoglu: how can I add kubuntu repos to the breezy repos in the BreezyUpgradeNotes wiki entry?
[11:21] <CavalierBob> WhiteRabbit: Why yes, yes it is! :)
[11:21] <someuser> yes
[11:22] <butcherbird> adjacent, nope :^)
[11:22] <BooZee> hello. how do I use ssh ?
[11:22] <funkyHat> SQFreak, kubuntu is in the normal repositories
[11:22] <adjacent> didnt think it was safe
[11:22] <someuser> ti's open.
[11:22] <zeke1> can someon help me get my marvel net card to work? :)
[11:22] <butcherbird> BooZee, ssh server or client?
[11:22] <JonnyRo> BooZee: what are you trying to do with it?
[11:22] <Serv|nokia> kemik: what the  ia32-libs to?
[11:22] <SQFreak> funkyHat: ah. thanks
[11:22] <BooZee> server
[11:22] <WhiteRabbit> CavalierBob, Hehe
[11:22] <Sonny_Wertzik> someuser, ok open it and back out /home/whatever and put ...   /etc/x11
[11:22] <adjacent> is the nvidia driver being broken a known bug that i overlooked?
[11:22] <Serv|nokia> kemik: fuck it i got it work
[11:22] <Serv|nokia> dam im good
[11:22] <Serv|nokia> :D
[11:22] <blam> hi
[11:23] <BooZee> butcherbird: server
[11:23] <butcherbird> apt-get open-sshd believe thats right
[11:23] <blam> how do I get identd working under ubuntu?
[11:23] <SQFreak> I'm ready to go with the upgrade. Any known major problems now (this system isn't mission-critical in linux; it's a dual boot anyway)
[11:23] <Serv|nokia> i just need to run apt-get install ia32-libs and i tryd it about 7h :D
[11:23] <nomasteryoda|w> !openssh
[11:23] <ubotu> I guess openssh is see http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SSHHowto
[11:23] <blam> I'm using xchat
[11:23] <delire> henk: i just though of something. 'cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep fglrx'
[11:23] <someuser> i'm there
[11:23] <nomasteryoda|w> !identd
[11:23] <ubotu> nomasteryoda|w: No idea
[11:23] <butcherbird> openssh-server
[11:23] <delire> henk: (my dinner is five minutes late..)
[11:23] <henk> delire, i did the configure using fglxconfig
[11:23] <zeke1> anybody got the marvel network card working in ubuntu
[11:23] <Sonny_Wertzik> someuser, look for a file called xorg.conf
[11:23] <henk> i think its working now
[11:23] <delire> henk: ok cool.. now fglrx is in the config ;)
[11:23] <someuser> got it
[11:24] <Sonny_Wertzik> open it
[11:24] <delire> henk: so glxgears looks a little better?
[11:24] <BooZee> o.k. 10x. and how/where can I download new themes for my ubuntu?
[11:24] <Serv|nokia> kemik: can you help me whit one thing=?
[11:24] <BooZee> my fresh ubuntu?
[11:24] <Serv|nokia> kemik: how to i set off the cdrom ask when i use apt-get install plapla ?
[11:24] <someuser> ok, opend
[11:24] <henk> delire, it looks ok, is there any way to see if any 'cool stuff' works now ?
[11:24] <butcherbird> BooZee, art.gnome.org read the faq
[11:24] <kemik> Serv|nokia:  remove the cdrom line from your /etc/apt/sources.list (prefix with #)
[11:25] <JonnyRo> zeke1:  any luck with the card?
[11:25] <blam> nomasteryoda|w: ?
[11:25] <B_166-ER-X> I have a problem here,  :  i have this message at the login screen on breezy preview ; Your $HOME/.dmrc file has incorrect permissions and is being ignored. This prevents the default session and language from
[11:25] <B_166-ER-X> being saved. File should be owned by user and have 644 permissions. , but my user IS 777 , so can that be ?? what should i do ?
[11:25] <Serv|nokia> ok
[11:25] <Sonny_Wertzik> someuser, ok scroll down till u see HorizSync	30-121
[11:25] <Sonny_Wertzik> 	VertRefresh	48-160
[11:25] <zeke1> JonnyRo: no and u
[11:25] <blam> nomasteryoda|w: sorry I don't understand
[11:25] <henk> delire, cause now glxgears looks like it did before i used fglrx (the 'old' drm module)
[11:25] <BooZee> o.k. 10x again. one last question: what should I do for security on the new ubuntu?
[11:25] <Sonny_Wertzik> someuser, the vales will be diff then mine
[11:25] <blam> B_166-ER-X: chmod 644 /home/username
[11:26] <Serv|nokia> kemik: thank you for your help
[11:26] <blam> B_166-ER-X: chmod 644 -R /home/username
[11:26] <Sonny_Wertzik> someuser, values will be diff than my
[11:26] <someuser> i found one "HorizSync	28-51"
[11:26] <kemik> Serv|nokia:  np
[11:26] <Sonny_Wertzik> ok i dont know what monitor u have
[11:26] <selinium> how do i rename a file at the command line. When i try to use rename it keeps erroring
[11:26] <someuser> Mag 796FD
[11:26] <kemik> selinium:  use mv
[11:26] <kemik> selinium:  mv filename newfilename
[11:27] <selinium> cheers kemik, of course! lol
[11:27] <B_166-ER-X> blam, that didnt work..
[11:27] <kemik> (mv is actually move... but hey, it does the trick)
[11:27] <someuser> my monitor will hendle up to 100Hz
[11:27] <Sonny_Wertzik> someuser,  ok you need to know th exact values for you monitor and put them in
[11:27] <BooZee> well actually, got another questions after that one..
[11:27] <kemik> selinium:  rename would work aswell, but it's a bit trickier syntax
[11:27] <Sonny_Wertzik> someuser,  ok you need to know th exact values for you monitor and put them in  for both horizontal and vertical
[11:27] <kemik> great for mass-renaming tho.. if you know your regular-expressions
[11:28] <Epix> is legends the game going to be forever, or only for beta?
[11:28] <someuser> how can i find thows values?
[11:28] <kemik> B_166-ER-X:  make sure tho "chown youruser file" and "chgrp yourgroup file"
[11:28] <kemik> B_166-ER-X:  may have to do it with sudo depending on who owns the file from the get-go
[11:28] <Sonny_Wertzik> someuser, u will need to look at the specs from the manufactuer site
[11:28] <delire> henk: hmm i don't know what's up then. try the ati installer or look out for me tomorrow. late now.. good luck.
[11:28] <paniq> can anyone suggest an USB lan adapter that works with linux?
[11:28] <paniq> (without ndiswrapper)
[11:28] <Sonny_Wertzik> someuser, one sec ill look for u
[11:29] <blam> B_166-ER-X: chown username:username -R /home/username - where username is *your* username
[11:29] <someuser> i'm not shure i understand..
[11:29] <joetheodd> Is there something I can type in a terminal to see what version of Ubuntu I'm using?
[11:29] <BooZee> where and how can I find and install video codecs on my ubuntu? plus, what prog do I use to see movies?
[11:29] <nic> servus miteinander
[11:29] <butcherbird> BooZee, pretty secure by default either by a router or you can run firestarter
[11:29] <someuser> is the value that's there now (28-51) is a representation of 60Hz ?
[11:30] <nic> kann mir von euch einer sagen wie ich meine internetverbindung teilen kann
[11:30] <henk> delire hmm wierd my computer hung exept for the mouse cursor that was working evertthing else stoped
[11:30] <Sonny_Wertzik> someuser, ok i found them...ready
[11:30] <kemik> !de
[11:30] <ubotu> from memory, de is #ubuntu-de bitte.
[11:30] <nic> can anybody tell me how to share my internet connection with kubuntu?
[11:30] <someuser> yes plz
[11:31] <Sonny_Wertzik> horizontal is 30-96
[11:31] <alessandro_> how can i configure my mouse protocol ImExPS/2?
[11:31] <Sonny_Wertzik> vertical is 50-160
[11:31] <kemik> nic:  not sure if there are any nice "gui's" for that, perhaps firestarter can do the trick... or else i'd use Quicktables
[11:31] <kemik> nic:  or do it the hardcore way and readup on iptables and make your own rules
[11:31] <squirrelpimp> 'evening...
[11:31] <B_166-ER-X> blam, uh, it was like the endingof 'lawnmower man' with all the Access denied ;)  'permission not granted' to a big list of files..
[11:32] <blam> B_166-ER-X: add sudo to the start of teh line
[11:32] <mkyb14> anyone here know where imagemagick install path is?  i am trying to install coppermine but cannot find the install path?
[11:32] <someuser> i cannot edit the file
[11:32] <B_166-ER-X> blam ok, then how do i know if the change took place well
[11:33] <Sonny_Wertzik> someuser, OK open a terminal
[11:33] <kemik> B_166-ER-X:  in your homedir type "ls -lha"
[11:33] <someuser> ok
[11:33] <Sonny_Wertzik> someuser, type this exactly           cd /ect/x11
[11:33] <kemik> B_166-ER-X:  and you'll see owner and permissions
[11:33] <fjevon> hey, my laptop went into hibernate during an update and I think it corrupted firefox. Now it won't open. When I try to uninstall, I get the following "problems found on my system: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/var/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions.d/00classic', which is also in package firefox
[11:33] <fjevon> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox-gnome-support_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/libmozgnome.so', which is also in package firefox-gnome-support
[11:33] <fjevon> "
[11:33] <squirrelpimp> anyone here knowing, when the dri version problem in Breezy is going to be fixed?
[11:33] <cevizoglu> what is the resolution of a Dell Inspiron 6000 with WUXGA LCD screen?
[11:33] <kemik> fjevon:  dont paste in here
[11:34] <someuser> i get " No such file or directory"
[11:34] <kemik> fjevon:  read the topic
[11:34] <mkyb14> anyone here know where imagemagick install path is?  i am trying to install coppermine but cannot find the install path?
[11:34] <dik> hi to all
[11:34] <B_166-ER-X> ok, everything is set to my main user
[11:34] <B_166-ER-X> i'll close the session to see if it changed something
[11:34] <nomasteryoda|w> mkyb14, try which imagemagick
[11:34] <nomasteryoda|w> mkyb14, maybe its not installed?
[11:34] <Sonny_Wertzik> someuser, my fault...   cd /etc
[11:35] <someuser> ok, i'm there
[11:35] <mkyb14> no i just installed it
[11:35] <mkyb14> sudo apt-get install imagemagick
[11:35] <fjevon> ...how am I supposed to paste to a website when firefox doesn't work?
[11:35] <nomasteryoda|w> the which command should list the directory it's in
[11:35] <kemik> fjevon:  #flood then
[11:35] <nomasteryoda|w> /usr/bin/...
[11:35] <alessandro_> i am trying to install a mouse with protocol ImExPS/2 and the mouse is turned off. someone can help me?
[11:35] <Sonny_Wertzik> someuser, now    cd X11
[11:35] <mkyb14> doesn't return anything
[11:35] <eyez_> Any one know af a program i can use to talk to ppl that are using MSN?
[11:36] <someuser> got it
[11:36] <funkyHat> eyez_, gaim
[11:36] <shinu> offtopic: what wireless router would you recommend? (not a very expesive one though...)
[11:36] <nomasteryoda|w> mkyb14, try apropos imagemagick
[11:36] <kemik> fjevon:  see your PM
[11:36] <funkyHat> look in 'internet' in 'applications'
[11:36] <eyez_> ahh, ok. thanks
[11:36] <Sonny_Wertzik> someuser, now      gedit xorg.conf
[11:36] <B_166-ER-X> nope, i'm still having Your $HOME/.dmrc file has incorrect permissions and is being ignored. This prevents the default session and language from
[11:36] <B_166-ER-X> being saved. File should be owned by user and have 644 permissions. at start of the session
[11:36] <IIdarkstarII> eyez_, gaim
[11:36] <alessandro_> i am trying to install a mouse with protocol ImExPS/2 and when i move the mouse, it is turned off. someone can help me?
[11:36] <mkyb14> says nothing approtriate
[11:37] <kemik> fjevon:  and dont use backports when updating in the future... that will save you alot of headache
[11:37] <mkyb14> i just installed it.... uh is there a simplier way to install than the apt-get?
[11:37] <kemik> mkyb14:  synaptic
[11:37] <mkyb14> ah yes
[11:37] <someuser> it's opend, but i think i have only Read Promission.
[11:37] <B_166-ER-X> blam , i didnt work :\
[11:37] <kemik> someuser:  sudo
[11:37] <someuser> do i need to log es "SU"
[11:38] <kemik> someuser:  nah "sudo gedit file"
[11:38] <kemik> or "sudo youreditorofchoice filename"
[11:38] <Sonny_Wertzik> someuser, ok clos it go to terminal and type     sudo gedit xorg.conf
[11:38] <IIdarkstarII> mkyb14, synaptic
[11:38] <B_166-ER-X> i also happen to have this message at the login screen : Configuration is not correct
[11:38] <B_166-ER-X> The configuration file contains an invalid command line for the login dialog, so running the default command.
[11:38] <B_166-ER-X> Please fix your configuration
[11:38] <someuser> ok, now i can change :)
[11:38] <kemik> B_166-ER-X:  always been broken?
[11:39] <Sonny_Wertzik> someuser, yes
[11:39] <mkyb14> ok i just used synaptic install.... and 'whereis and which' don't find the directory
[11:39] <B_166-ER-X> kemik, well...since the upgrade to breezy, yes.
[11:39] <mkyb14> heh i need to list the path so that coppermine knows whereit is
[11:39] <someuser> ok, i made the changes, & saved the file.
[11:39] <kemik> someuser:  tried  "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" think it should let you add displaysettings..
[11:39] <funkyHat> :( has anyone got beagle working in breezy?
[11:39] <vbgunz_> hello everyone
[11:40] <vbgunz_> kemik whats up!
[11:40] <kemik> vbgunz_:  not much.. staying up past my bedtime ;)
[11:40] <someuser> I changed it & savet the file
[11:40] <vbgunz_> me too :)
[11:40] <someuser> saved*
[11:40] <Sonny_Wertzik> someuser, ok
[11:40] <mkyb14> ?  that didn't work either i still can't find the imagemagick dir
[11:40] <B_166-ER-X> i am really idea-less for this problem, i did try everything i know :\
[11:41] <kemik> B_166-ER-X:  well breezy is unstable so bugs are to be expected
[11:41] <Sonny_Wertzik> someuser, im not sure if u have to log out and in or reboot or what
[11:41] <vbgunz_> be cool
[11:41] <B_166-ER-X> i KNOW that breezy is unstable, but i feel that this problem wont be just corected with updates eh..
[11:41] <Sonny_Wertzik> someuser, i did....when i first did it
[11:41] <kemik> B_166-ER-X:  could be that you messed something up aswell... :|
[11:42] <B_166-ER-X> kemik, possible, but i really dont know.
[11:42] <someuser>  i'm on live CD, how can i relogon?
[11:42] <B_166-ER-X> i had a few keyboard problem, fixed 'em thats all
[11:42] <kemik> B_166-ER-X:  try "sudo gdmsetup" and choose another loginsetup ... see if it fixes anything
[11:42] <someuser> and is there a way to save it pemenently on the CD (or New CD)
[11:42] <Sonny_Wertzik> someuser, heh..i didnt see that u were on a live cd heh
[11:42] <kemik> B_166-ER-X:  if you dont have any to chose from, download from gnome-looks.org
[11:43] <someuser> :)
[11:43] <joetheodd> How do I install curses?
[11:43] <eyez_> How, can i se the other HD in my Ubuntu. i have a drive with in NTSF format
[11:43] <rambo3> try saving on floppy or mounted USB
[11:43] <Sonny_Wertzik> someuser, maybe someone can tell you how to shut down xserver and turn it on again
[11:43] <[LethAL] > !tell eyez_ about ntfs
[11:43] <kemik> joetheodd:  search for libcurses in synaptic
[11:43] <kemik> joetheodd:  or just "curses"
[11:43] <someuser> maybe..
[11:44] <eyez_> ok, it will not format that drive if i use that tool?
[11:44] <[LethAL] > eyez_, no, it won't
[11:44] <kemik> joetheodd:  you'll probably want libcurses-dev or something like that..
[11:44] <eyez_> ok, thank you
[11:44] <[LethAL] > eyez_, You won't be able to write to the drive though
[11:44] <someuser> can i tray to do this by killing the xserver procces?
[11:44] <eyez_> ok, but i can read from it.. copy from it and so on?
[11:44] <[LethAL] > eyez_, yes
[11:45] <joetheodd> kemik, I'm trying to compile a program written by a friend of mine on Slackware. He said I need to install 'curses'. Is that libcurses-dev that it needs?
[11:45] <eyez_> ok, thank you
[11:45] <kemik> someuser:  sure, kill the running xserver and start it again
[11:45] <joetheodd> kemik, I'm asuming it needs to import the curses headers.
[11:45] <kemik> joetheodd:  could be libcurses-dev or ncurses
[11:45] <kemik> joetheodd:  yes.. well you need some sort of -dev package.. id go for ncurses and libcurses
[11:45] <Sonny_Wertzik> someuser, dont forget to ask how to start it again
[11:46] <kemik> joetheodd:   i assume you've installed "build-essential"
[11:46] <someuser> ok. but just to be sure, to start it i need SU privliges? and do i just type xserver?
[11:46] <kemik> uh, no dont think you need su to start X
[11:46] <[LethAL] > someuser, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[11:46] <kemik> but i'm not 100 on thatone ;)
[11:46] <[LethAL] > restart*
[11:46] <[LethAL] > someuser, that is, if it works that way ;)
[11:47] <someuser> ok, i thenk you for all the help, and to all, i'm gonna tray this now. 10q!
[11:47] <Sonny_Wertzik> someuser, good luck
[11:48] <someuser> 10q :)
[11:48] <kemik> never say "thanks" to "goodluck"
[11:48] <kemik> it jinxes it! :)
[11:48] <gujeroo> hi there.
[11:48] <joetheodd> haha kemik
[11:48] <someuser> '}
[11:49] <cyphase> Info about why my blog might be offline for a few days (it's not traffic related) -> http://cyphase.homelinux.com/blog/2005/09/26/this-blog-might-be-offline-for-a-few-days/
[11:49] <eyez_> [LethAL] ,  cool. it woked. thx :)
[11:49] <Nameless12> I need some help, i have FINNALLY got my new xorg.conf to work and i thought i had it setup for dual monitors, but it looks the same as before. Altho the xorg.conf DOES LOAD WITH NO ERRORS anyway check out the xorg.conf at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2562 i NEED HELP, so someone ppzz help
[11:49] <joetheodd> Does anyone know any good, step-by-step tutorials on compiling WINE? The version on the apt repositories is outdated and can't run the program I'm trying to use.
[11:50] <[LethAL] > Nameless12, there's a package, or a few for dualmon stuff
[11:50] <someuser> i cannot see the xserver on the "top" proccess list
[11:50] <Nameless12> [LethAL] , package?? what, im confused a package i have to install??? Whats the package name?
[11:51] <[LethAL] > Nameless12, I don't know, search for it
[11:51] <butcherbird> wiki wiki wiki wiki wiki wiki wiki
[11:51] <Nameless12> someuser, i modified the default xorg file, all i did was add 1 monitor and edit the bit down the bottom. Whats the xserver thing i have to add to the config?
[11:51] <kemik> joetheodd:  i think there's some stuff about compiling wine from the CVS.. google or try the wiki
[11:51] <gujeroo> someuser, maybe cause its called Xorg?
[11:51] <joetheodd> kemik, thanks
[11:51] <Kovecses> hey guys im getting .......Mounting Local Filesystems......failed    at boot?
[11:52] <Sonny_Wertzik> someuser, cant help on this 1 i cant remember the command line
[11:52] <someuser> sory, n00b :P
[11:52] <[LethAL] > I'm off now peoples
[11:52] <[LethAL] > Cya all tommorow
[11:52] <someuser> ok, 10x all i'm traying :)
[11:52] <kemik> !wine
[11:53] <kemik> joetheodd:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29996
[11:54] <someuser> i cannot kill xorgm i get "operation not permited" ?
[11:54] <cevizoglu> anyone have good/bad experiences with ubuntu with the HP zd8000 notebook?
[11:54] <Sonny_Wertzik> someuser, cant help on this 1 i cant remember the command line
[11:54] <someuser> you help'd me a lot, it's ok :)
[11:55] <Sonny_Wertzik> someuser, if it was a real install youd be good to reboot
[11:55] <Ryouga> is there a known problem with the 6600GT? I can't get the livecd to work correctly
[11:55] <someuser> yes, but i got en idea, whay not edit the xll file on the ISO file, end then Burn it ?!!
[11:56] <Sonny_Wertzik> someuser, im sure someone in here know how to do it with the terminal
[11:56] <someuser> ok i'll tray & ask
[11:56] <funkyHat> ow, no dvorak left-hand in ubuntu anymore
[11:56] <kemik> sudo kill -9 PID
[11:56] <kemik> or sudo pkill -9 processname
[11:57] <someuser> do somone know's the command to Kill xorg end start it agin ?
[11:57] <mattlacey> someuser: you could log out, then press ctrl+alt+backspace
[11:58] <Kovecses> hey guys im getting .......Mounting Local Filesystems......failed    at boot?
[11:58] <someuser> can i do this from Live-CD?
[11:58] <gujeroo> ok. just installed colony five and wanted to install some apps. but it won't let me. where do I have to tweak?
[11:58] <someuser> mattlacey: can i do this from Live-CD?
[11:59] <mattlacey> someuser: i'd imagine so, but i haven't used the livecd myself
[11:59] <Nameless12> can someone tell me the command to shutdown X so that i dont need to reboot to test my new xorg.conf ?
[11:59] <someuser> what dos ctrl+alt+backspace is for?
[11:59] <snorks> Nameless12: ctrl+alt+backspace
[11:59] <Nameless12> thanx