=== gand [n=gand@62-101-126-208.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #edubuntu [12:59] hi I did a test of my first screentutorial on KEduca with edubuntu. Could someone plese test video? http://www.freesmug.org/usex/index.php?/archives/16-KEduca-ScreenTutorial-TEST.html [01:01] Thanks in advance [01:09] gand, .avi works [01:09] are you on ubuntu? [01:10] yep [01:10] what player are you using? [01:10] mplayer + w32codecs [01:10] playing in mozilla-mplayer plugin [01:11] nice, does works also h264? [01:11] gand, with what you made the video? [01:11] second i check [01:11] little bit complicate :) [01:12] hehe, the h264 works but every 2-3seconds something blink at the top [01:12] nice to know, are you on x86? [01:13] animation don't work? [01:13] yes x86 [01:13] My edubuntu is on PPC so the only free screenreconrder (Xvidcap and istanbul) dont' work [01:13] it works, but during playing something blinks at the top of the screen [01:14] i mean at the top side of video [01:14] you mean "animation" have the same problem of H264? [01:17] next step I'll add audio, and changing language I can do in italiand and in english [01:17] I mean changing system GUI language :) [01:19] thanks a lot rejeden, 1.20 am here, I go to sleep [01:27] same time here, sleep well [01:27] i'm going to discover more of quanta plus === pitux [n=pitux@197-209-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === macgyver2 [n=eric@unaffiliated/macgyver2] has joined #edubuntu === pitux [n=pitux@12-215-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #edubuntu === john_b [n=john@38.235.118.70.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu === john_b [n=john@38.235.118.70.cfl.res.rr.com] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === john_b [n=john@38.235.118.70.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu [05:49] hello, anyone got some edubuntu specific links on sound they can point me too? [05:50] specificly looking for info on sound on terminals === yvesC [n=yves@81.56.207.189] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #edubuntu === shaga [n=sha@rikos.org] has joined #edubuntu [07:17] I didn't use workstation-install for this workstation. was that important? [07:17] and good morning all :) [07:18] well you installed ltsp and dhcp [07:19] hehe [07:23] okay, so no problem then :) === JaneW [n=JaneW@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu === JaneW [n=JaneW@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu === gand [n=gand@62-101-126-208.ip.fastwebnet.it] has left #edubuntu [] === unimatrix9 [n=leslie@dsl103-25.fastxdsl.nl] has joined #edubuntu [09:38] hi theer [09:38] you are not making live cd's? of edubuntu? [09:38] or planning to make one... [09:38] ?) === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu === danjules [n=dan@24.215.14.137] has joined #edubuntu === Seveas [n=seveas@dyn127.roaming.few.vu.nl] has joined #edubuntu === spacey [n=spacey@145.33.170.13] has joined #edubuntu === pere_gone is now known as pere === jinty [n=jinty@205.134.224.215] has joined #edubuntu === spacey [n=spacey@145.33.144.163] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.236] has joined #edubuntu [12:12] hi all [12:13] hello [12:14] JaneW: our docs are ready for packaging/uploading [12:14] WooHOO [12:15] me and jbailey have been slaving over it this morning and we got some stuff uploaded [12:15] just let me fix the remaining stuff and its ready by tommorow [12:15] whynot make www.ubuntuguide.org official and add as a homepage for new ubuntu-installs? [12:16] shaga: we have that for 5.10 [12:16] but removed the crack [12:16] oh [12:16] shaga, because ubuntuguideis a mess... [12:17] shaga: we made an faq but made sure its not as crackful as ubuntuguide.org itself [12:17] sounds great, what about adding opera to sources now that is free? [12:17] define free [12:18] it can be added into multiverse why not [12:18] it's not open source, but least it doesn't have advertises and it doesn't pay anything.. [12:19] multiverse sounds more reasonable [12:19] opera isn't difficult to install really [12:19] for it [12:19] it's not, but it's very common browser for older machines so that's why I thought it.. [12:19] stating firefox takes about 15seconds on this computer and for opera, the time is only under one second [12:20] s/stating/starting [12:20] jsgotangco, does it have a free distribution license for third partys (re: multiverse) ? [12:20] ogra: probably, PC-BSD has a PBI for it [12:20] i dont think youre allowed to redistribute it without explicit permission [12:20] im actually on bsd at the moment and using it [12:21] http://www.pbidir.com/packages.php?code=59 [12:21] so yeah i guess 3rd parties can redistribute it === yvesC [n=yves@81.56.207.189] has joined #edubuntu [12:22] License: Commercial [12:22] *shug* [12:22] we probably should just ask them :) [12:23] :) [12:23] yeah [12:23] the whole opera thing became free because of google funding [12:23] Opera wouldn't be very appropriate for Ubuntu and at least not Edubuntu [12:23] free as in no pay [12:23] it shows advertising [12:23] magnon, in multiverse [12:23] it doesnt [12:23] since when? [12:23] magnon: it doesn't anymore [12:23] they freed it [12:23] it used to [12:23] ah well [12:24] since the latest release [12:24] that's the day I started using it everywhere [12:24] magnon: similar to the deal with themozilla foundation on firefox [12:24] I never liked Opera that much anyway [12:25] but some people do... and we want to do everything that the user doesnt need to edit his sources.list :) [12:25] I like how opera has "real back" function [12:25] so getting it into multiverse is a goodplan [12:26] it doesn't reload the page and goes right into same spot, loads the page from the cache [12:26] and it's faster(lightweight), those are my main reasons.. [12:27] i actually like it [12:27] ogra: sure, I thought it still had advertising [12:28] but to me it's just another browser that does things a little bit incorrect in another way that firefox does things a little bit incorrect [12:28] i know some devels actually use it [12:29] jsgotangco: thanks for your hard work on the docs. === JaneW goes to look [12:29] the only thing i dont like about it since the ads are gone it that it uses QT ;) === JaneW is bit distracted - lots going on here (Office Idols etc) [12:29] JaneW: look where? we just uploaded it [12:29] jsgotangco: not linked in Edubuntu Docs? [12:29] not yet [12:29] ogra: are you going to include ubuntu-docs in the package? [12:30] depends on the size... [12:30] proably a meg [12:30] powerpc is at 704 MB... [12:30] ouch it overflowed [12:30] i'm not sure when it explodes [12:30] jsgotangco: oic === JaneW will wait then [12:30] not yet [12:30] 800 MB cds rocks :) [12:30] JaneW: give me a day or two [12:31] About Edubuntu is already done [12:31] but its near the edge and i havent looked what i can drop additionally from ppc [12:31] jsgotangco: oh alright ;) [12:31] we've tested the package today [12:31] fixing the entities are a pain so we're fixing our svn as well [12:31] i probably wont be able to do anything edubuntu related this week anyway... my highest proi task is still xss [12:31] so take your time [12:32] ogra: sure take your time [12:32] heh [12:32] i can have JaneW test the package tommorow [12:32] heh [12:37] ok [12:38] it's a bit chaotic here, because Mark is here, and as a local celeb things are a bit manic [12:38] lol [12:39] hey, isnt it his own office ? [12:39] employees should be used to their boss *g* [12:39] heh [12:39] how influential is mark to the overall SA scene? [12:39] VERY? [12:39] sure :) [12:46] jsgotangco: yes very [12:47] jsgotangco: he couldn't walk down the street without being stopped [12:47] wow [12:47] :) [12:47] ogra: it;s not the employees that are the problem is the other people, and all the hype that is here [12:47] so whos he then? [12:47] so he has bodyguards when in SA? [12:47] jsgotangco: I don;t think so, I think he just keeps a low profile [12:47] JaneW: that's nice to know [12:48] but his face is very familar nowadays so... [12:48] jsgotangco: I would say that the list of well known SA celebs includes Madiba, Charlize and Mark... [12:49] mmm charlize [12:50] ogra: I asked about CDs [12:50] adn ? [12:50] and [12:50] any luck? [12:50] ogra: new answer is we can make a few hundred, and we have to arrange it ourselves [12:50] arrange what? [12:50] ogra: still don;t know what to do about packaging... [12:50] ok... lets do it post release then [12:51] yeah [12:51] ogra: yes, let's get through the release and then try to make a plan [12:51] at least it is something [12:51] a simple paper hardcover should be enough... [12:51] like kubuntu has them [12:51] who did that? amu? [12:51] or riddel [12:53] masochists gui=kde :D [12:53] shaga: shhhh [12:53] ;) [12:53] i remember ogra giving me dagger looks during udu because i was using kde [12:53] hehe [12:53] ;) [12:54] hehe [12:54] not for nothing tho, heh [12:58] ogra: I haven't actually seen a Kubuntu CD [12:58] its a blue disc with the 3 dragons [12:58] jsgotangco: is there an image somewhere? [12:58] hmmmm [12:59] dragons, wow! [01:01] they shouldn't be cute tho [01:03] let me find that [01:03] hmmm [01:04] i couldn't find it [01:04] i'll just brb later and have dinner first === ogra_ [n=ogra@p5089F7C2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === Zaheer [n=zahedoll@wbs-146-150-242.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [01:57] hello :) [01:57] what version of ubuntu is edubuntu based on? [01:57] well the preview at least === spacey [n=spacey@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #edubuntu [01:59] on the preview indeed :) [02:00] sorry i see now its 5.10 [02:00] my bad [02:00] thats breezy right? [02:00] yap [02:01] Zaheer, a daily edubuntu is always identical with a breezy daily... (modulo the edubuntu addons) [02:02] cool cause i wanted to DL breezy... would be abit silly if i already have edubuntu :D [02:03] yup [02:04] to install breezy from the CD, do a "server" install and just put ubuntu-desktop on top ;) [02:04] is there anything specific that i can help with? [02:04] testing,testing, testing... [02:04] find the evil bugs ;) [02:05] :D i found one y/day with the terminal server client. [02:07] one thats not known yet ? [02:07] dunno... where do i check? [02:07] bugzilla, look for ltsp [02:08] you could also describe it, i know all known ltsp bugs ;) [02:11] ok firstly i installed edubuntu as a workstation,i can terminal serve to windows pc but when i close it down with the little "x" i get an error message. [02:11] give me 5 secs to get the extact message for. [02:11] the workstation version has no ltsp functions at all [02:12] its not ltsp it the actuall terminal server client that comes with edubuntu. [02:12] err, what else ? [02:13] ok the message : "NOT IMPLEMENTED : System pointer message 0xf00" [02:13] mouse related i think [02:13] no idea what you are using there ? [02:14] what is that what you use as client ? [02:15] i get to the application by clicking on the following menus Applications -> Internet -> Terminal Server Client [02:15] ahhhh [02:16] :) [02:16] ok, that has nothing to do with edubuntu [02:16] oh ok. [02:16] file a bug in bugzilla agains tsclient so we can get it fixed in ubuntu ;) [02:20] okie dokie :D [02:27] whats the address to post bugs? [02:29] https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/ [02:31] thanks === Seveas [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #edubuntu === mpt [n=mpt@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #edubuntu === wmaulik [n=wmaulik@158.59.195.93] has joined #edubuntu [03:05] ogra: hi olliver, you here? [03:06] this is jelkner writing as one of my students [03:07] anybody here? [03:07] JaneW: hi Jane, are you here? [03:07] wmaulik: hello, yes [03:07] wmaulik: hi Jeff [03:07] wmaulik, soryy, give me a minute... i'm afk for a moment [03:08] here is the situation with which i need help [03:09] we have encountered a bug in edubuntu [03:09] and we wanted to report it [03:10] Writesh, the student i am loggin in as, volunteered to report the bug himself [03:10] which i thought was great [03:10] so he created a launchpad account [03:10] https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/ [03:10] great [03:10] we want to use malone [03:10] if that is ok [03:10] think so... [03:10] i don't want too many different ways to do things [03:10] launchpad is looking better all the time [03:10] I think they are running in parallel atm [03:10] nod [03:11] i call it "software development for human beings" ;-) [03:11] wmaulik, please use buzilla, malone is only for universe packges [03:12] nobody of the main devs looks in launchpad yet [03:12] ogra: when will that change? [03:12] it is not the best situation [03:13] i want to grow the edubuntu users, testers, etc group [03:13] if malone is ready its lacking a lot of features [03:13] and encourage people to report bugs [03:13] most new users don't know whether something is in universe or not [03:13] and they shouldn't have to [03:13] but i suspect sabdfl will force us to use it for main after release [03:14] everything installed in edubuntu is in main [03:14] ok [03:14] only stuff you installed additionally can be from niverse [03:14] if Writesh created a launchpad account, can he use bugzilla? [03:15] i'm not sure if they already work together this deep.... try it [03:18] ok, i've gotta run [03:18] bye and thanks... [03:18] writesh left already to go to his next class [03:18] now i've got to teach mine ;-) [03:18] :) [03:18] we'll try bugzilla tomorrow [03:19] ok [03:19] but i have to say that if it is easy we can to these things [03:19] if it is not we can't [03:19] thanks! [03:19] bye [03:19] then mail me about the bugs [03:19] ok, thanks [03:19] so i can forward them to bugzilla to assign them the right people [03:30] sigh [03:30] do flint or jelkner ever stay for longer than 10 mins? [03:40] highvoltage - why so quiet :) [03:46] Zaheer: very busy :) [03:55] highvoltage: watching idols *duck* [04:01] JaneW: i wasn't *really* watching, I just came buy because vicki said we must :) [04:05] highvoltage: nod, I was also only there for 5 mins or so... [04:05] highvoltage: it's too cold to stand out there for long [04:06] yep. my word i'm tired. i ordered an dsl line from telkom today. took 45 mins. [04:06] the wireless connection in my area is just too dodgy. [04:07] highvoltage: pity, but our ADSL ahs been good, except for the intl problems, but that had nothing to do with ADSL... [04:08] i think adsl is the best option locally. they just didn't have it in my area when i moved there (telkom didn't even have phone lines there). [04:09] Zaheer: so, how are things? [04:11] highvoltage: where do you live? in the karoo? ;) [04:12] hehe. new area just outside bellville and kuils river (next to bottelary). [04:15] highvoltage: ok, I got married near there (one of the wine farms) [04:15] where do you live at the moment? [04:15] Rondebosch [04:16] cool man, looking forward to sysadmin classes starting ;) [04:16] any word on the venue yet? [04:16] Zaheer: lol, I read that as SysAdmin clashes - I thought there was a battle of the SysAdmins or something ;) [04:17] he he :D [04:17] Zaheer: it's at pentech. i'm getting the maps tomorrow, will forward on. [04:18] im glad to see there a quite a few cape townians around :) [04:18] Zaheer: ah, so you know who i am now ;) [04:18] yes i do :D .. you had me worried for a while! [04:19] how'd you know it was me tho' or did you take a guess? === Rondom [n=andreas@B1af7.b.pppool.de] has joined #edubuntu [04:26] orgra : posted the bug in bugzilla, thanks :) [04:26] Zaheer: you use telkom adsl, so i know you're local, and the zahedoll kind of gave it away. [04:27] aaahhh cunning!!! i didnt even see that. [05:01] ok. bye! [05:07] anyways guys have a good one! see ya === Zaheer [n=zahedoll@wbs-146-150-242.telkomadsl.co.za] has left #edubuntu [] === gilv [n=egil@lab75-3-82-235-26-179.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu [05:13] hi [05:13] hi [05:14] gilv, so if you got any questions regarding edubuntu feel free to ask anytime :) === jinty [n=jinty@205.134.224.215] has joined #edubuntu === yvesC [n=yves@81.56.207.189] has joined #edubuntu === vincenzio [n=vmarks@adsl-065-015-231-005.sip.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #edubuntu === pere is now known as pere_gone === vmarks [n=vmarks@adsl-065-015-231-005.sip.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #edubuntu === bdoin [n=coudoin@bla31-1-82-228-70-121.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === bdoin [n=coudoin@bla31-1-82-228-70-121.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === yvesC [n=yves@81.56.207.189] has joined #edubuntu === macgyver2 [n=eric@unaffiliated/macgyver2] has joined #edubuntu === magnon [n=magnon@photogeeks/magnon] has joined #edubuntu === spacey [n=spacey@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #edubuntu === bdoin [n=coudoin@bla31-1-82-228-70-121.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === bdoin [n=coudoin@bla31-1-82-228-70-121.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === mwest [n=mwest@tsl.uct.ac.za] has joined #edubuntu === JessicaX^ [n=Admin@86.112.144.181] has joined #edubuntu [10:35] Heya [10:35] Been a while since i was in here [10:35] How is everything [10:36] Like the new logo, btw [10:37] By the way ; are the projects under way.. or still in planning? [10:38] I installed just hoary-server, upgraded to hoary, then added edubuntu-desktop [10:38] smooth as silk ;) [10:39] eh? [10:40] s/second hoary/breezy [10:40] I think they are doing fine with edubuntu [10:40] at least from the looks [10:40] Eh????? [10:41] I didnt say they weren't [10:41] o.O [10:41] you asked how is everything [10:41] I just said that seems fine for them ;) [10:41] don't pick on my words so easily :) [10:41] I wasn't [10:41] hehe [10:41] I was just wondering what the hell you're talking about oOl [10:42] Projects as in [10:42] "what WILL be in edubuntu" [10:42] " What's going to be in Edubuntu?" [10:42] at least gnome-screensaver instead of x-s-s :p [10:42] nooo [10:42] huh [10:42] it was dropped a week ago [10:42] ehh? [10:43] did i say xss? [10:43] (sorry i'm in a meeting) [10:43] *thin air picking* [10:43] I'll just stay quiet :D [10:43] I dont know what the hell you're talkjing about XD [10:43] I said [10:43] "What projects" [10:43] And you're like ; "YA IM USING GNOME-SCREENSAVER" [10:44] o__O [10:44] "Nice Day today eh!" [10:44] "Yeah, i like banana boats" [10:45] *sights* [10:46] JessicaX^, kdeedu, gcompris, schooltool, the new and shiny ltsp classroom server we developed, moodle (hopefully, its currently a bit buggy) [10:46] sounds nice [10:46] coulorful artwork and icons... [10:46] Still using GNOME, right? [10:47] yup [10:47] but with kde bits... [10:47] kdeedu has no counterpart on the gnome side yet [10:49] iono, i tried using kubuntu [10:49] After ubuntu [10:49] and kubuntu ran faster [10:49] o.O [10:50] i never tried kubuntu... [10:50] :) [10:51] but i was told by several people that kde is a lot slower via ltsp... which is our main app... [10:51] Hmm [10:51] Yeah, but iono [10:51] i'll test that for next release [10:51] I think KDE looks more unified.. I dont like Epiphany [10:51] i dont like KDE ;) [10:51] Obviously [10:51] :P [10:51] way to cluttered [10:52] Well, it is out of the box [10:52] But gnome is completely the opposite [10:52] Nice to get up and running, but iono [10:52] gnome is totally out of te box :) [10:52] o_O [10:52] but we could discuss that endless... lets drop it [10:53] I know, i know [10:53] and i have to attend the meeting in #ubuntu-meeting :) [10:53] :P [10:53] you should use TuX :) [10:53] Very sexy indeed [10:53] ?? [10:53] Kernel HTTPd [10:54] yes, but why ? people are familiar with apache :) [10:55] kernelspace httpd makes me shudder [10:55] :D [10:55] Put IIS on there then ;) [10:55] Some schools in UK kiss that [10:55] hehe [10:56] TuX uses Apache as a secondary webserver [10:56] again [10:56] why, when you have apache? [10:56] the whole concept of putting http serving in kernel land is crazy [10:56] Not really [10:56] if you say so. ;) [10:57] Apache is nice, but there are HTTPd's that are faster than it [10:57] Well, i do ;) [10:57] Ask Igno Molnar why he made one [10:57] remember him? :P [10:57] Ingo :/ [10:57] yes. [10:57] did he run it on a ltsp server with 25 thin clients that started openpffice simultaiously ? [10:58] Ingo Molnar has been contributing to Linux kernel development since 1995 with an impressive list of accomplishments. Most recently his O(1) scheduler was merged into the 2.5 development kernel [10:58] Not that i recall [10:58] But that scheduler is uber clever [10:58] just because I love his scheduler doesn't mean that I like kernelspace http-serving [10:58] :P [10:59] Have you used it? [10:59] I tried it a long time ago [10:59]