[12:09] <Riddell> Tonio-: how's the icon?
[12:09] <allee> Riddell: http://www.mpe.mpg.de/~ach/kubuntu/breezy/Pkgs.php contains a latest digikam & co pkgs
[12:09] <allee> libkipi too late because it's in main
[12:10] <allee> digikam and digikamimageplugins (still beta) so maybe too early for breezy
[12:10] <allee> libkexif and kipi-plugins (universe):  upload to revu?
[12:13] <Riddell> allee: is it a good idea to get libkipi and kipi-plugins out of sync?
[12:14] <allee> Riddell: out of sync?  libkipi and kipi-plugins release are independent
[12:14] <Riddell> aah
[12:14] <Riddell> what's new in libkexif?
[12:15] <Riddell> I mean what kind of release, major or minor
[12:15] <allee> some minor bug fixes + visibility stuff
[12:15] <allee> minor
[12:15] <Riddell> is it likely to break any rdepends?
[12:17] <allee> I update libkipi and libkexif only and gwenview and digikam 0.7.4 shows now problem.  I would expect libkipi/libkexif low risk
[12:17] <Riddell> sebas: is there a bug reporting place for guidance?
[12:18] <Riddell> sebas: (I don't have any to report, just need it for main inclusion report)
[12:20] <Riddell> allee: groovy, I can upload if you want
[12:21] <allee> Riddell: fine with me.  Only digikam* better wait until rc1 (then there will also docs included)
[12:43] <Tonio-> Riddell: finishing with the colors
[12:45] <Tonio-> Riddell: in fact we have tried different things but it is not easy to make something that make people think "package manager" and that doesn't ressemble to synaptic, kynaptic or kpackage....
[12:46] <Riddell> I can imagine
[12:46] <Tonio-> finally it will ressemble a bit, of course ;)
[12:46] <Riddell> not necessarily a bad thing, people will recognise it's meaning
[12:46] <Tonio-> trying to make something different has been what we call in french "un flop"
[12:46] <Tonio-> a big failure lol
[12:47] <Tonio-> Riddell: i agree with that yes
[12:48] <allee> Riddell: are you interested to upload latet digikam* 0.7.4 pkgs or should I use revu?  breezy is still at 0.7.2 :(
[12:49] <Riddell> allee: what's in debian?
[12:49] <allee> 0.7.4-5 is in sid
[12:50] <Riddell> need to test that on breezy then and ask for a sync
[12:52] <allee> 'k I build and test on breezy.  [automatic sync is a bit tricky afaiu] 
[12:58] <Riddell> allee: thanks
[01:45] <allee> Riddell: isn't there a switch/trick to disable running of automake during build.  I'm blind or tired :(
[01:46] <Riddell> allee: which package?
[01:46] <allee> digikamimageplugins (from sid)
[01:46] <Riddell> if it detects that a makefile.am has changed it runs automake.  or something.
[01:47] <allee> yeah, but date seem to be okay.  Maybe I overlooked something.  I remebered something about maintainer mode but ...
[01:50] <allee> found it (I was blind).  Now searching appropriate target for touching ...
[01:55] <Riddell> "We received a request from the user named 'ripper_on (jhonny-cac)' trying to join the team 'Kubuntu Team'"
[01:55] <Riddell> who?
[01:56] <crimsun> hmm, I should probably join that team
[02:53] <allee> Riddell: digikam* 0.7.4: http://www.mpe.mpg.de/~ach/kubuntu/breezy-experimental/
[02:54] <allee> Riddell: I'll do some more testing tomorrow, but on first tests looks fine.  comments welcome
[02:56] <allee> Riddell: one note: -doc pkgs are in non-free already due to GFDL
[02:57] <Riddell> hmm, wonder how ubuntu handles that
[02:57] <Riddell> a question for tomorrow
[02:58] <allee> nite Riddell (and to me too ;)
[03:55] <Tonio-> Riddell: are you still there ?
[03:55] <Tonio-> the icon is (almost) finished
[03:55] <Tonio-> don't know if you'll like ;)
[03:55] <Tonio-> no your not....
[03:56] <Tonio-> I'll make a package and send you that by email
[09:47] <Tonio-> hi all
[09:48] <Tonio-> Riddell: bad news but I receive the icon at 3 am, and... well, not like what I thought...
[09:49] <Tonio-> in fact my brother didn't took care of the kde lok and feel, and that results an icon mostly designed for mac....
[09:49] <Tonio-> I tried with kde this night, it renders horrible....
[09:49] <Tonio-> We will have to restart it toonight, but of course we will not have it finished for today...
[09:54] <Tonio-> to many details, colors too mucj brown....
[09:58] <\sh> Riddell: who is ripper_on 
[09:58] <\sh> (jhonny-cac)
[09:58] <\sh> who applied for kubuntu-team membership?
[10:16] <Tonio-> hello \sh 
[10:33] <\sh> hi Tonio- 
[10:47] <Tonio-> \sh: Riddell revued some of my packages and asked me to see with you.
[10:47] <Tonio-> two of them seem to interesst him for breezy, wlassistant and kdetv
[10:47] <Tonio-> he told me to see with you for revuing ;)
[10:48] <allee> FWIW as a 'better-than-nothing-for-now' icon I would use the blue '>' icon used in adapts window all over the place. 
[10:49] <allee> Tonio-: wlassistant is almost ready at http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde-extra/
[10:49] <allee> Tonio-: I use it on hoary already
[11:25] <Riddell> \sh: no idea who that is, I declined his membership
[11:25] <Tonio-> allee: I too, but it is not on ubuntu repository at the moment ;)
[11:27] <allee> Tonio-: yeah, I know.  I was much more busy with digikam & co than I thought. I hope to find time for a revu upload soon
[11:28] <allee> but if someone is faster no problem :)
[11:32] <Tonio->  Riddell sorry for the icon but I think my brother didn't understood it was a specific kde appication ;) the icon isn't ready according to its very different look and feel that standard kde apps based icons.
[11:32] <Tonio-> Riddell: I hope we'll finish a good one for tomorow or at least the end of the week.
[11:54] <JRe> Tonio-: does your brother wants to make another icon? i need one ;) ;)
[11:55] <JRe> Tonio-: for KFormat :)
[12:37] <\sh> Riddell: k. thx :) 
[12:37] <\sh> Tonio: yes..will have a look :)
[02:21] <sebas> [00:17:53] <Riddell> sebas: is there a bug reporting place for guidance?
[02:22] <sebas> mailto:simon@simonzone.com, CC: sebas@kde.nl
[02:25] <Riddell> sebas: and are there any open bugs ?:)
[03:24] <sebas> Riddell: None I know of (no major breakge at least).
[03:25] <sebas> I changed something that might've introduced funkiness, though: serviceconfig and userconfig now are "enabled" if run as normal user, but have the "edit" stuff (the things you'd need root privileges for) disabled, as opposed to disable the whole mainwidget.
[03:26] <sebas> The same needs to be done for mountconfig (will be one of my next changes).
[03:26] <sebas> We're not planning to introduce risky stuff though for mount-, user- and serviceconfig, so updating the package with latest svn should be quite safe.
[08:01] <Tm_T> hmm
[08:56] <Tonio-> hi all
[08:56] <Tonio-> Riddell: I'm on the icon this time
[08:56] <allee> Tm_T: hi
[08:56] <allee> hi Tonio- that is   grmbl bloody tab
[08:56] <Tonio-> Riddell: I'll do it with him and you'll get it today for sure... Sorry for yesterday and thanks for the revuing
[08:57] <Tonio-> evening  allee ;)
[09:34] <Tm_T> allee heya
[09:34] <allee> Tm_T: now a hi to you
[09:35] <allee> btw anyone using digikam?
[09:35] <allee> I see a bug in breezy, I've not seen in hoary :(
[09:36] <Tm_T> hm
[09:36] <Tm_T> just downloading breezy packages
[09:36] <allee> start digikam: selected a image, rmb and rotate it.  Is the thumbnails rotated too?  Not here with 0.7.2, 0.7.4 :(
[09:41] <Riddell> Tonio-: cool
[09:42] <Riddell> tvo: any progress with the google bar fixes?
[09:42] <tvo> Riddell: yes. I fixed the Tonio- bug pointed out. I'm still investigating the icon thingie..
[09:43] <tvo> I'm probably on the right track for the latter but I'm not there yet
[09:44] <Tonio-> tvo nice for the bug ;)
[09:44] <Riddell> tvo: I knew I could count on you :)
[09:44] <tvo> hehe :) thanx
[09:45] <tvo> Riddell: do you want a new patch with the bugfix, or wait until I figure out that icon thingie too ?
[09:45] <Riddell> tvo: may as well wait
[09:45] <tvo> ok
[10:12] <Riddell> any volunteers to package KSniffer?  http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=26258
[10:20] <Tm_T> ok, what should I do then?
[10:21] <Riddell> Tm_T: are you volunteering to package it?
[10:21] <Tm_T> to kde3.5 ?
[10:21] <Tm_T> sure
[10:21] <Riddell> Tm_T: have you made packages before?
[10:21] <Tm_T> no
[10:21] <Tm_T> but it's time to do
[10:21] <Riddell> awooga
[10:21] <Riddell> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuPackagingGuide
[10:22] <Tm_T> hoary/breezy?
[10:23] <Riddell> breezy
[10:23] <Tm_T> oh, sure
[10:23] <Riddell> start by making a breezy chroot
[10:23] <Tm_T> just downloading breezy packages
[10:23] <Riddell> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot
[10:24] <Riddell> then take a look at an existing package with  apt-get source katapult (for example)
[10:24] <Riddell> read through the new maintainers stuff
[10:24] <Riddell> get the source and make it into a .orig.tar.gz
[10:24] <Riddell> add a debian directory
[10:24] <Riddell> and you're done :)
[10:24] <Tm_T> :)
[10:25] <Tm_T> ok, I'll do it first thing tomorrow
[10:25] <Tm_T> first I try upgrade from hoary to breezy
[10:26] <Tm_T> taking just 3h anymore to donwload :p
[10:33] <Tm_T> at least I have adsl, don't have to use gprs anymore
[10:34] <Riddell> gprs?  ouch.  paying by the MB for breezy dist-upgrade wouldn't be nice
[11:11] <Tonio-> Riddell: 15 minutes and you get the svg icon
[11:29] <Tonio-> ho you know it will not be a kind of art, just an icon ;)
[11:29] <Tm_T> Riddell: =)
[11:29] <Tm_T> Tonio-: show it to me ;)
[11:29] <Tonio-> Riddell: we have just spend a lot of time on "how to make it a bit like synaptic to evoque package manager, but quite different"
[11:30] <Tonio-> that was a real big deal ;)
[11:30] <Tonio-> Tm_T: just wait for it to be finished
[11:30] <Tonio-> effect on the cd is not quite over
[11:30] <Tm_T> aye
[11:44] <Tonio-> just having a little trouble on the cd, we don't agree on wich one to choose ;)