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specialbuddycan anyone help me out with superkaramba12:04
specialbuddy?12:04
specialbuddyisn anyone even here12:06
PiRX[lv] specialbuddy, whazup?12:07
Drakesonkonqueror behaves strange for me. in icon view mode it shows long-names icons in a larger space. if it is intended I don't like it. is it possible to turn it off?12:07
specialbuddydo you know how to install superkaramba12:08
PiRX[lv] apt-get install superkaramba?12:08
specialbuddyI can try that12:09
chavoDrakeson, go to Settings -> Configure Konqueror12:09
chavoThen click on the Appearance icon, you can change the amount of lines of text that show up12:09
specialbuddyI don't think that will work because I downloaded a .tar file12:10
PiRX[lv] specialbuddy, don't be afraid of apt-get superpowers... you didn't have to download .tar file12:10
PiRX[lv] apt-get will download precompiled binary for you12:10
specialbuddythat won't work because it's not on synaptic12:10
PiRX[lv] hmm, i remember (or think so) i apt-get superkaramba for myself12:11
PiRX[lv] <-- will check12:11
chavospecialbuddy, have you added univers and multivers repositories?12:11
Drakesonit's there12:11
chavoyeah, it's probably not in main though12:11
specialbuddyI'm pretty sure I did12:12
chavo!repositories12:12
ubotufrom memory, repositories is at at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)12:12
chavospecialbuddy, I see it in apt-cache search12:12
specialbuddywhats that mean12:13
chavoso make sure you're repositories are set as per the page above12:13
chavospecialbuddy, apt-get is set up with only one repository by default12:13
specialbuddywell I think I did that12:14
chavobut there are thousands of packages available12:14
Drakesonwhat is multiverse?12:14
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chavospecialbuddy, something's missing, because superkaramba shoes up here12:14
specialbuddyok12:14
specialbuddymaybe I didn't do it because I had to reimage my computer12:15
chavoit's in universe12:15
Drakesonspecialbuddy: what is the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list ?12:15
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specialbuddyyeah12:16
specialbuddythanks for reminding me to do that12:17
specialbuddybecause I forgot to do that because I just installed it over again the other day12:17
specialbuddyI had to install it again because I had to install server 2003 for a class12:17
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specialbuddyawesome12:19
specialbuddythanks chavo, drakeson12:20
chavono problem12:20
specialbuddyis it easy to use12:20
specialbuddyI need to take a linux class or buy a book because I like linux so much and I want to know more so that I can make more out of it.12:25
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slow-tvn812:31
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antoinehello to everybody!12:35
antoinei have a question about kubuntu12:36
specialbuddywhats the question12:36
antoinein ubuntu, there is a little icon to tell the user an update is available12:37
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antoineis there the same in kubuntu ?12:37
antoineI can't find it12:37
specialbuddyI think so12:37
specialbuddysee if you need updates12:38
specialbuddyutilities ->update manager12:38
specialbuddyactually12:39
specialbuddyI don't think it does because I just did that and I had 5 updates to do12:39
antoineok...12:39
specialbuddyI don't think there is something like that12:40
specialbuddyyou might have to download kynaptic I think12:40
specialbuddyor it's named something like that12:40
specialbuddyit's just like synaptic12:40
antoineyes i have both, synaptic and kynaptik12:41
specialbuddyyeah12:41
specialbuddyI have both too12:41
antoinesynaptic seems better12:42
specialbuddytry asking someone in the ubuntu room because I'm kinda new to this and I'm not sure if there is a way to make it so that it tells you about updates12:42
antoineok, I can see "upgradable" in kynaptic12:42
antoineok, I'm not on ubuntu room ?12:43
antoinesorry12:43
antoineok12:43
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specialbuddyantoine12:45
specialbuddytry downloading 'upgrade-system'12:45
specialbuddymaybe that will work12:45
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CarmenSandiegoIs it a good idea to install Firefox instead of using Konqueror?12:54
Rogue_Jedi_XIt's a matter of taste, really12:55
Rogue_Jedi_XEither is good12:55
CarmenSandiegoRogue_Jedi, do I install firefox using Knaptic or directly from the website?12:57
CarmenSandiego:S12:57
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antoinehello again!01:02
antoinebefore KDE crashed, I had a volume icon on my desktop menu01:03
seaLnekmix01:03
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antoinei cannot find it anymore01:03
seaLnerun kmix01:03
antoineok, thanks !01:03
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hajikiwhats a good cd ripping app?01:10
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lunitikhajiki: KAudioCreator is installed by default...01:14
hajikithanks01:14
specialbuddyhas anyone here used the DynBar for Karamba?01:15
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KaibaI need some major help folks01:25
Lars_Gohhhhh, aaahhhhhh01:26
Kaibahow do I install MPlayer so I can watch WMV?01:26
crimsuninstall the version in multiverse01:26
Kaibamultiverse? sorry this is my first time on this OS01:27
crimsun!tell Kaiba about repos01:27
KaibaI have kynaptic01:29
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antoinedo somebody has tried to install the new version of Skype ?01:31
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Kaibahow do I do it using kynaptic?01:35
Lars_Gantoine: I did but I forgot how I did it.01:42
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Boilw00t01:58
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Boilextracting a 1.91GB rar file on my athlon 64bit 3500+ (overclocked to 2.6GHz from 2.2 with one crappy 512 stick of ram in (ram timings down to 3-3-3-8)) and it's extracting about 1% every 2 seconds02:02
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jdefis apollon in the breezy repositories?02:07
jdefdon't worry found the FAQ02:08
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`NomadHi..  I need help with apt-get, or rather dpakg maybe..  Lately, anytime I install something I get the following message:02:15
`NomadProblem executing scripts DPkg::Post-Invoke 'dzhandle restart-pending-instances'02:15
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KaibaMPlayer Mozilla Plugin is not working right :(02:16
KaibaI hear the Audio but don't see the Video02:16
Kaibaall I see is the web address02:17
Boil`Nomad, I had the same problem. It's just a case of waiting, and pestering people on here.02:17
BoilI would have gone for debian, but it didn't recognise my lan card02:17
Boilso I have to wait to use linux02:17
Boilinstead, I'm stuck with Windows (Oh the joy!)02:17
BoilI can't even boot linux, because I used it on a friends computer, and I can't change the resolution because of the errors with apt-get02:18
Boiland my IDE HDD is being all screwy02:18
Kaibacan anyone help me?02:18
BoilSorry ... not me :(02:19
`NomadSounds like you need codecs Kaiba02:20
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Kaibahow do I install them Nomad?02:21
KaibaI have the multiverse thing02:21
Kaibathis is my first day with this OS02:21
`Nomaddunno, it,s been a while.. Maybe google for mplayer codecs02:21
`Nomadlet me see02:21
`Nomadbrb02:21
KaibaI have the "all" but I dunno how to install a tar.gz or whatever it is02:22
`Nomadoh..02:22
`Nomadcopy th etar.gz where you want to expangd it, it's a compressed file02:22
Kaibathats it?02:23
`Nomadare you in gui mode or at the prompt?02:23
Kaiba......02:23
KaibaGUI02:23
`Nomadok, then right click and pick the "extract to folder_name" option02:24
Kaibak then where?02:25
Kaibano clue where it is at02:25
`NomadSorry, I,ve had a very long day.. What do you mean you don't know where it is at&02:28
jdefcan someone assist me with installing vm tools in a kubuntu guest OS02:28
KaibaI don't know where to uncompress them to02:28
`Nomadok, try this..02:29
`Nomaddouble-click to open that file02:29
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Kaibak02:30
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Kaibaopens with Ark02:31
`Nomadgood02:31
`Nomadjust like winzip02:31
`Nomadnow highlight all the files and select extract02:32
Kaibaok02:32
`NomadWhen given the choice, select Desktop and create a new folder there to unzip in02:32
`Nomadit shoudl all be available righ tthere in that Ark interface02:32
KaibaI chose to extract to folder I created02:33
`Nomadgood02:33
Drakesonhave you got a problem with gmail recently guys?02:33
`NomadDrakeson: nope , like what?   Oh wait, I may be missing some emails02:33
god-zeroDrakeson: not that I've noticed02:34
DrakesonI cannot download my recent emails. through kmail/thunderbird/...02:34
`Nomadbut I suspect my boss simply forgot to send them anyway02:34
`Nomadoh mine works well then, it's my main account these days02:34
god-zerooh, I used the web interface02:34
`NomadI use kontact and thunderbord02:35
Drakesonweb interface works well,02:35
`Nomadbird  :)02:35
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Drakesonso it seems to be only me :(02:35
`Nomadcoudl be02:36
Drakesonwhen I got to settings in web interface and enable the pop, kmail downloads all my emails,02:36
Drakesonbut after that if I send anything to myself kmail doesn't download it02:36
Drakesonit seems like it is a one time download for me!!!02:36
`Nomadhumm.. weird02:37
Drakesonam I missing something? is it just that pop-setting in the web interface I must set or there are other things?02:38
`Nomadno, but you do have to set the ports to what they say02:38
`NomadIthink..02:38
`Nomadit's been a while02:38
Kaibait won't let me make the Codecs folder in usr/lib02:38
`Nomadno, you'd need to eb roo tfor that02:38
`Nomadkaiba I meant02:38
Kaibaok bbiab02:39
`Nomadbbiab?   be back in a b?02:39
god-zeroI think he read reboot02:39
`Nomadoops02:39
god-zerolol02:39
`Nomadshit.. I am sooo tired, long day 02:39
`Nomadtrouble with a website hosted on Windows where I have no control, had to wait.,, and wait,,02:40
`Nomadwow, I made a remot PC reboot by the power of my typo02:40
god-zerochat sever do you use to remote control a window box?02:41
god-zero^^^what server/client ....windows box?02:42
`Nomadoh it,s at my future ex-job, they migrated th esite to win200302:42
`Nomadlast weekend02:42
god-zeroKrdc?02:42
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`Nomadand I don't remote control it, it's at the fingertips of the ISP guy :)02:43
eduardobuenas :)02:43
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god-zeroI've been meening to try some Krdc mojo on my ex's windowsME machine (her new bowfriend constantly borkes it up with warez)02:45
`Nomadk02:45
`Nomaddamn new bf..02:45
god-zerosorry, my keyboard is at an odd angle, can't seem to find the right keys02:45
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god-zeroI go there every couple days with a knoppix disc in hand to fix all the probs.02:47
CarmenSandiegoHow would I add an HP OfficeJet 7410 All-in-One in KUbuntu?02:47
`Nomadgod:  LOL02:48
`Nomadtry a crowbar02:48
CarmenSandiego`Nomad, huh?02:48
`NomadCarmen huh? Where in the world are you?02:49
CarmenSandiego`Nomad, how will that even work? ;)02:49
god-zerohe was laughing at/with me02:49
`NomadI,m too tired, I lost track.. what&02:49
`Nomadoh I see..02:49
`NomadLOL02:49
`Nomadnot for your printer no02:49
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god-zeroI'm now familiar with that peice of hardware02:50
CarmenSandiego`Nomad, http://www.google.com/search?q=Where%20in%20the%20world%20is%20Carmen%20Sandiego&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 . ;)02:50
CarmenSandiego`Nomad, the first option. :)02:51
god-zero"try a crowbar"... lol.. poor carmen's thinking we're-none-to-friendly02:51
`NomadLOL02:51
`NomadThough, I've had many HPs where a crowbar WOULD hav ebeen the best thing02:51
jdefhow do I setup a shared folder in kubuntu guest?02:51
god-zeroyou meen over samba?02:52
jdefI installed kubuntu as a guest OS in vmware02:53
jdefI setup shared folder which should be accessible under /mnt/hgfs02:53
jdefhowever it isn't do I need to edit the fstab02:54
`NomadCarm: familiar with this webste?  http://www.linuxprinting.org//forums.cgi?group=linuxprinting.hp.general02:54
CarmenSandiegoLet me see. :S02:54
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CarmenSandiego`Nomad, yes.02:55
CarmenSandiego`Nomad, it works with Ubuntu(GNOME).02:55
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`NomadWell it should with Kubuntu too02:55
CarmenSandiegoI don't know about this though.02:55
specialbuddyhow do I update superkaramba02:55
`NomadAny error in particular?02:56
god-zeroI should get to know vmware.... or the open source vm.. not sure if you do that through tcp/ip interface02:56
`Nomadbrb02:56
CarmenSandiego`Nomad and the rest of the channel.02:57
CarmenSandiegoUnable to start child print process. The KDE print server (kdeprintd) could not be contacted. Check that this server is running.02:57
CarmenSandiegoUnable to start child print process. The KDE print server (kdeprintd) could not be contacted. Check that this server is running.02:57
specialbuddydoes anyone know how to update superkaramba?02:57
god-zerodo you meen the plugins or the binary?02:58
`NomadCarm: My drivers show up to 7400 , not 7410, but it must be the same02:58
`Nomadoh I see. ok02:58
CarmenSandiegohttp://pastebin.com/37524202:58
specialbuddygod-zero, were you talking to me?02:58
CarmenSandiego`Nomad, that is the error message.02:58
god-zerospecialbuddy: yes02:59
CarmenSandiegoHello specialbuddy!!! :)02:59
specialbuddyI installed from synaptic but it's out of date and I want the newest version03:00
specialbuddyso I downloaded a .tar file03:00
god-zeroyou'll haveto compile that03:01
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TokenBadI typed xkill and clicked on my panel by mistake....03:01
TokenBadhow can I get that back now03:01
CarmenSandiegoBy the way, how do I start the KDE Media Manager?03:01
DrakesonTokenBad: try kicker in run command03:02
specialbuddygod-zero, how do I do that exactly03:02
`Nomadsorry, phone03:03
CarmenSandiegoBy the way, how do I start the KDE Media Manager?03:03
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jmghey all03:04
jmgany sites/chat rooms for kubuntu on laptops?03:04
jmghaving weird stuff with suspend to ram03:04
specialbuddylinuxonlaptops I think03:04
TokenBadthanks Drakeson that worked03:05
CarmenSandiegoDrakeson, can you help me?03:05
Drakesonwhats up?03:06
god-zerospecialbuddy: you'll need build-esentials (the compiler, and support files), then read the readme in the tar (it's a compressed folder, uncompress it), you'll likely hace to install several -devel files... best not to compile unless you studie it first03:06
specialbuddyk03:06
DrakesonCarmenSandiego: what's the problem?03:07
CarmenSandiegoHow would I add an HP OfficeJet 7410 All-in-One in KUbuntu?03:07
god-zerobreezy has a newer one03:07
jmghmm03:07
CarmenSandiegohttp://pastebin.com/37524203:07
specialbuddygod-zero, yeah I tried and then I had a hard time doing the make and make install thing03:07
CarmenSandiegoThat is my error message.03:07
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god-zerothat's whwere the -devel files come into play... like if it fails mumbling about kde, for instance, you would apt-get install kde-devel or whatever03:09
god-zerothey tell the compiler how to use those librarys03:09
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god-zero-dev/-devel stands for developer/development03:10
specialbuddygod-zero, I don't really know what you are talking about.  I just wanted a new version but I can't get it from synaptic03:11
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god-zeroyou should wait till a binary comes out.03:11
`Nomadsorry, have to go, good luck Carmen03:11
CarmenSandiegoDrakeson, it's okay.03:11
specialbuddygod-zero, does that happen often03:12
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god-zeroyes. Probably (in this case) you'll get it when you switch to breezy. Breezy'll be "done" the 13th of october. There will be instructions of how to upgrade.03:15
specialbuddybreezy is going to be done that soon?  and will I have to reinstall or can I just update the version of ubuntu that I have now03:17
sproingiespecialbuddy: you can just change the sources.list and do a dist-upgrade03:17
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god-zeroIt's just a matter of editing sources.list, replacing "hoary" with "breezy", and typing "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"03:18
sproingiespecialbuddy: if you're mildly adventurous, you can do it now.  most of the updates to breezy these days are pretty boring03:18
sproingieno huge changes going on, so if it doesn't break right away, it'll probably be ok03:18
god-zeroI'm on breezy now.. works well enough. Additionally I'm using kde3.5 beta1... that's not ready for primetime.03:19
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sproingieeverything works in 32 bit chroot except opengl hw accel.  oops.03:20
specialbuddyI just want the new version of karamba03:20
specialbuddyand I'm on a laptop so what should I get so that I can tell how much battery life I have03:20
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sproingieshould be built in to kde03:21
specialbuddyoh03:21
specialbuddycan't seem to find it03:21
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sproingiei could use a clock that showed a configurable list of times in various timezones on mouseover, but i dont think i want a shiny floating one taking 16 megs of RAM to run 03:22
specialbuddywhere is the power meter for this kubuntu03:24
specialbuddymy laptop is about to die03:24
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jmgcan i configure wpa from kde?03:25
jmgspecialbuddy: klaptop03:26
specialbuddythanks jmg03:26
jmgnp03:28
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specialbuddyso if I update to breezy, I can get the new version of superkaramba03:31
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god-zerojmg: kdesu kcontrol, internet &networking, wireless network, use encryption/configure03:31
johnwhats the name of that file that makes GNOME apps look good in KDE?  you can use GNOME themes with programs like GAIM and FireFox...03:32
johnits something with gtk in the name03:32
god-zeronot sure if it's wep or wpa.. my card's not working rightnow03:32
jmggod-zero: only does wep03:34
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_jdefwhere can I get an updated version of sources.list for breezy03:35
thoreauputic!sources03:36
ubotusources is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)03:36
lunitik_jdef: just change instances of hoary to breezy and dist-upgrade03:36
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god-zerojmg: kinda figured that :( thought of that right after the first post03:39
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chxis there a wiki where I could a very hardly found tip? Ie. you can run skype if you alien the mandriva rpm03:39
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navynwhenever i log into kubuntu, it tells me that it cannot talk to klauncher?  Anybody ever seen this?03:41
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god-zerojohn: gtk2-engines-gtk-qt03:42
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navyncan anybody help me?03:43
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god-zeronavyn: yes I've seen it.. no, I can't remember how I fixed it. :(03:45
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god-zeroI'll try to remember03:45
BicchiWhat is the difference from booting into: "Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.10-5-amd64-generic Default"    and    "Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.10-5-amd64-generic"03:45
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specialbuddyis there anything like kooldock that's better?03:46
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navyngod-zero, thanks i would appreciate any help i could get03:48
god-zeronavyn: I remember having a bad file permission. Maybe check /chown the dot files in /home/username03:48
god-zeronot 100% sure that was the issue, it wes a long time ago03:49
navyngod-zero, i've deleted the entire .kde folder and log back in, it still says that03:49
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god-zeroI'd go back to the login screen, do a console login (will kill x), login, statrx... exit x... look at any errors refering to files in /home/username03:51
god-zerostatrx->startx03:51
navyni will give that a try03:51
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FoodcomanGreetings03:52
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FoodcomanHey god-zero, you familiar with Zoneinfo and timezone?03:53
god-zeroyes03:54
chxi can't log in into wiki.ubuntu.com despite I am logged in to launchpad so i know my display name 'karoly negyesi' and my password03:55
chxany ideas?03:55
FoodcomanMy time was perfect for my timezone with default breezy install. I check the adjust time automatically and everything slammed to UTC.03:57
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juniorzoneHow do I start kicker?03:58
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FoodcomanI can set of Los Angles, but that is only for KDE, data at the console shows UTC.03:58
Ubelkicker ?03:58
Ubelin terminal :)03:58
juniorzoneThe KDE panel (kicker) could not load the main panel due to a problem with your installation. 03:58
Philyanyone can help i've just installed k7 kernel and now can't use nvidia drivers from reposotory!03:58
Foodcomandate in terminal.   =)03:58
juniorzoneUbel, that is my error. :S03:59
juniorzone!kicker03:59
ubotujuniorzone: What?03:59
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juniorzone!Botsnacke03:59
ubotuthanks juniorzone :)03:59
juniorzone!theme03:59
ubotujuniorzone: Are you on ritalin?03:59
juniorzone!Ubotu04:00
ubotuThaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/04:00
juniorzoneUbel?04:00
UbelWhat?04:00
juniorzoneAre you still here?04:00
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Ubelyou can't run kicker from terminal04:00
Ubelyes04:00
Ubelput the rest of kde comes up?04:01
juniorzoneUbel, no.04:01
juniorzoneUbel, kicker does not start, but the rest of KDE starts.04:01
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Ubelwhat happens if you  start a terminal and type kicker there?04:01
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juniorzoneUbel, same error.04:01
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Ubeland the error is? :)04:02
Blah0The KDE panel (kicker) could not load the main panel due to a problem with your installation. 04:02
Blah0Ubel, that is the error. :(04:02
god-zerofoodcoman: sudo tzconfig04:02
Ubelweird04:03
Blah0Ubel, also, it was working today, until I tried to install a theme.04:03
Ubelwhat theme?04:03
Blah0I guess I should have told you that in the first place.04:03
Foodcomangod-zero: Thank You.04:04
Blah0Ubel, kde_xp. (Don't even ask why) ;)04:04
UbelI guess you could remove your configure files and restart04:04
Ubelhehehheh04:04
specialbuddyis there anyway to set up the middle button on my laptop to allow scrolling?04:04
Blah0Ubel, how would I remove the configure files?04:05
Ubelyou could remove the whole .kde folder in your home directory04:05
Ubelor04:05
Ubel.kde/share/apps/kicker04:05
Blah0[Confirmed.] 04:06
specialbuddyanyone know how to enable scrolling?04:06
Foodcomangod-zero: Worked like a charm.  Thank you again!04:06
god-zeronp04:06
Blah0Ubel, then restart?04:07
kianziackwhy my msn didnt work? any one?04:08
Ubelwell04:08
Ubeljust try to run kicker from the console04:08
specialbuddycan anyone help me with the scrolling on my computer04:08
Ubelor konsole :)04:08
Ubelspecialbuddy: meaning?04:08
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kianziackopss what did i do04:09
Blah0Ubel, same problem. :(04:09
god-zerospecialbuddy: that depends on the driver for your touchpad. Not enough info.04:10
specialbuddywell my middle button works but I want to use it for scrolling on a window04:10
specialbuddyon xp, when I hold it down I can scroll04:10
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specialbuddyI can't do that with this04:10
UbelI have no idea what that XP theme does04:10
Ubelsorry specialbuddy  I have never used anything like that04:10
Ubelso I don't know how04:10
specialbuddynot the xp theme04:11
UbelBlah0: Url for that xp theme?04:11
specialbuddyon windows xp04:11
god-zerospecialbuddy: is ther a wheel, or is it a section of the pad, or what?04:11
Blah0themes.kde.org04:11
Hobbseeoh...yes, i know what you mean - it's on the right hand side of the touchpad, generally on dell laptops04:11
specialbuddyit's just a button that I hold on the laptop and I can scroll by using the little mouse button04:11
Hobbseeor not lol04:12
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Blah0Hello Hobbsee!!! :)04:12
specialbuddyyeah04:12
Hobbseehello Blah004:12
specialbuddyit's pretty much a third mouse button but you can hold it down and scroll04:12
UbelI can't find it Blah0 04:12
Ubelhttp://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=29551&PHPSESSID=3082c808e3e03aab00ec0a2e73a90fcb this one or?04:13
specialbuddyI guess no one knows what I'm talking about04:13
UbelChangelog:04:13
UbelI found an error in the install script. Instead of replacing my files on the host, I just added the fixed install.sh script. If you use the included script and find that your kicker doesn't work, don't fear. Just rename /usr/share/apps/kicker_ORIG back to "kicker" and all will be fixed. Sorry I didn't catch it sooner04:13
UbelBlah0 :)04:13
BicchiWhat is the difference from booting into: "Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.10-5-amd64-generic Default"    and    "Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.10-5-amd64-generic"04:14
god-zeroI Think I know what yu're talking about, but it's not a button, it's a section of the touchpad, just sectioned off by a piece of plastic04:14
specialbuddyit's not a touchpad04:14
specialbuddyI hate touchpads04:15
god-zero? no, hrmmm04:15
Hobbseea little button in the middle of the keyboard, used for moving your mouse around?04:15
Hobbseethat's the only other thing I can think of that you're meaning04:15
specialbuddyI have a little mouse button like most older laptops and a left and right mouse button and in the center is a button you hold down to scroll04:15
Hobbseeah...does the centre button paste instead?04:16
specialbuddyyes, I have the little thing in the center to move the mouse around but there is another button I hold down to scroll04:16
specialbuddyI know the center button works but I want to know if I can make it scroll04:16
specialbuddylike it does on windows xp04:16
Blah0Ubel, I am here.04:17
Blah0How do I rename a file with root.04:17
Blah0Ubel, sorry I am un-registered. :(04:17
Blah0I cannot talk to you. :(04:17
Blah0Sorry #KUbuntu.04:18
HobbseeBlah0: kdesu konqueror04:18
Ubelsudo mv  /usr/share/apps/kicker  /usr/share/apps/kicker_xp04:18
Hobbseethen go to the file and change it04:18
Ubelsudo mv  /usr/share/apps/kicker_ORIG  /usr/share/apps/kicker04:18
god-zeroIs there a way to assign a hot key to scroll? That's the only way I can think of doing it... but it's involved04:18
Ubelyeah or use kdesu konqueror04:18
Hobbseeshould be04:18
Ubelwell that's the url the guy gives04:18
specialbuddyyeah04:19
specialbuddyI'm not sure if I know how to set up a hotkey to do that04:19
Hobbseeif you're going to use a hotkey, why not use page down to scroll?  I know it's a stupid question :P04:20
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god-zerospecialbuddy: in linux/xwindows, middle button is asigned to paste, so I'm not sure it can be done04:21
specialbuddyit can be done because I have a dual-boot with windows xp and that's how it is04:22
god-zeroI meen in linux04:22
specialbuddyI hold it down and if I move the mouse up, it scrolls up, etc.04:22
god-zeroin windows middle button = nothing04:22
Blah0Thank God!!! :) This works!!! Thank you Ubel, Hobbsee, and #KUBUNTU. :)04:22
god-zeroso a driver assined mb=scroll04:22
Hobbseeno problems Blah0 :)04:23
god-zerobut in linux mb is already used04:23
specialbuddyI wonder if this can be done04:24
lunitikAnyone know where Kubuntu puts Kopetes emoticons.xml?04:24
specialbuddybecause it's nice feature when you don't have a mouse with a scroll wheel04:24
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god-zeroshift uparrow and shift downarrow work04:25
jonornuff that install script is pretty badly done04:25
specialbuddyyeah but you don't have to move your hand doing it the way I was doing it before with windows xp04:26
specialbuddyI'm lazy04:26
specialbuddy:)04:26
god-zerolol04:26
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specialbuddymaybe I will figure it out one of these days04:26
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god-zeroI understand. too bad laptops don't have extra buttons near the pad for scroll up/down/left/right04:28
pazzportanyone know how to 'reenable' the session restore in kubuntu?04:28
Hobbseelunitik:  /usr/share/emoticons/Default/emoticons.xml is the only file being found so far - it doesnt look to be in the kopete folder...04:29
god-zeropazzport:04:29
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god-zerosystem settings, users, session manager04:29
Hobbseelunitik: hold that thought04:29
lunitikHobbsee: thats it... dpkg -L kopete doesn't list it though... strange....04:29
Hobbseelunitik: /home/user/.kde/share/emoticons/04:29
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Hobbseethere's an emoticons.xml in that folder too04:30
pazzport?04:30
pazzportThanks - simple but I couldn't find it04:30
chxlibdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable  :( how could I enable?04:30
chxE: Package libdvdcss has no installation candidate04:30
chxI am out of ideas04:30
god-zeropazzport: Kmenu, System settings. click user accounts, click session manager04:31
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god-zerochx: it _was_ in the repos, not anymore... google for the deb04:32
lwellsHow do i get the "tool tips" to show up when i hover over an icon04:33
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Hobbseelwells: kcontrol, desktop, panels, appearance tab, tick the top 2 boxes04:34
chxgod-zero: /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh is the answer. googled out :)04:35
god-zerochx: ya, you're right. cool04:36
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pazzportThanks god-zero for the help04:41
Hobbseei'm so tempted to upgrade to breezy again...04:42
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_jdefanyone here uses kmldonkey04:50
FoodcomanBreezy is really nice!  I would'nt go back to hoary now!   =D  Nice job!04:52
Hobbseemmm...tempting...04:53
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jdefhi and goodnight 05:06
jdefnalioth can I bother you 05:07
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naliothjdef: by all means05:18
naliothjdef: keep in mind that i may not answer immediately, as i'm just now getting back into my house from rita05:18
naliothand setting up my compters05:18
jdefnalioth: were you badly affected05:19
naliothif you call pullin a 5 computer array (complete with all networking) and moving it affected, yes05:20
jdefnalioth : well not to bad then you're alive and you have a home to come back too05:21
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marndtHi everyone...what's the recommended repository for hoary multiverse?05:25
marndtby the way, I'm running Kubuntu...05:26
naliothmarndt: the one you mentioned. hoary multiverse05:29
naliothjdef: yes my trailer is still in one piece05:29
naliothjdef: did you have a question?05:29
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jdefyou familiar with vmware05:34
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neotrophyI have a problem with KDM.  When I log in, it starts a brings up a blank, grey X session, then drops back to the login prompt.  GDM work fine (execpt that it doesn't seem to be able to remember my last session type)05:40
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naliothjdef: did you have a question?05:40
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PiRX[lv] !calc repository05:49
ubotuPiRX[lv] : Are you on ritalin?05:49
naliothPiRX[lv] : what are you looking for?05:50
PiRX[lv] just for repositories05:50
PiRX[lv] in case there are some which haven't in my sources.list05:50
PiRX[lv] i'm kinda software junkie :)05:50
Hobbseewell, depends what you are looking for, as to which repositories to recommend...05:51
PiRX[lv] actualy i'm going to upgrade hoary to breezy05:51
PiRX[lv] probably lookin forward for KDE3.5b105:51
neotrophyI have a problem with KDM.  When I log in, it starts a brings up a blank, grey X session, then drops back to the login prompt.  GDM work fine (execpt that it doesn't seem to be able to remember my last session type).  Anyone got any ideas?05:51
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nalioth!tell PiRX[lv]  about sources05:52
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naliothPiRX[lv] : if you're using breezy, dont enable extras or backports05:52
MrSifty|lappyhey05:52
PiRX[lv] naolith thnx05:52
MrSifty|lappywhat is the default root password?05:52
nalioth!tell MrSifty|lappy about root05:53
neotrophyThere is no root password by default05:53
MrSifty|lappyoh?05:53
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naliothMrSifty|lappy: read your ubotu msg05:53
MrSifty|lappyhow do I do that?05:54
neotrophy!me neotrophy about root05:54
ubotuneotrophy: I don't know05:54
neotrophy!tell neotrophy about root05:54
MrSifty|lappyoh, duh05:54
MrSifty|lappyI see05:55
neotrophySo no-one got any clues what could be goign on with kdm?05:55
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Bicchimy usb pen drive is not been detected what can i do to troubleshoot it?06:04
god-zeroI got quake 3 arena working! :) I was afraid the frame rate would be bad under linux, but it's about the same.06:05
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god-zeronalioth: still got all your stuff?06:12
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Hobbseei'm about to update to breezy - if i have the kde 3.5 repositories enabled, do i also need the 3.4.2 repositories enabled?06:14
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god-zerojust add the lines, don't delete/comment out any06:15
naliothgod-zero: yes i do, and am slowly getting it back together06:16
Hobbseedeb http://kubuntu.org/breezy-kde342/ breezy-updates main 06:16
Hobbseedeb http://kubuntu.org/kde35beta1 breezy main06:16
Hobbseethe current line is that06:16
Hobbseewell, without the breezy's in the first line06:17
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god-zerohobbsee: dist-upgrade? ya, then comment out the 3.4.206:17
Hobbseeok, cool06:17
Hobbseeand what about the 3.5?06:17
naliothHobbsee: leave the 3.5 if you feel like living on the edge06:18
Hobbseeexcellent - i do, it's awesome06:18
Hobbseei'm already using 3.5 now, so...06:18
naliothHobbsee: standard repos have more polished 3.4.2 kde available06:18
Hobbseeright06:18
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Hobbseeupgrading...06:20
satafterhanyone know a program to convert divx to dvd06:22
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MrShifty|lappydoes anyone know of a tutorial for configuring Mac keyboards to work with KDE? I.e. the eject button, volume, etc...06:28
naliothMrShifty|lappy: my mac keyboard works fine o-o-t-b06:29
MrShifty|lappydo you have a desktop or an ibook?06:29
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BlankB!User Guide06:34
ubotuBlankB: Are you smoking crack?06:34
lunitik!guide06:35
ubotulunitik: What?06:35
naliothBlankB: what are you looking for?06:35
lunitik!botsmack06:35
ubotuI don't know, lunitik06:35
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lunitik!ubuntuguide06:37
ubotu[ubuntuguide]  out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.06:37
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Hobbsee!faq07:10
uboturumour has it, faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/07:10
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eikohello everyone07:21
eikoanyone know how i can see my windows partition in kubuntu?07:21
thoreauputic!mountwindows07:22
uboturumour has it, mountwindows is Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically07:22
thoreauputiceiko: ^^^07:22
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eikocool07:23
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eikois it easy to do?07:23
eikoill i see is programing code07:24
naliotheiko: what are you wanting to know?07:24
eikooh well ill find another way07:24
thoreauputicsilly person - left before we could tell him how to run a script...07:25
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attyi have download jdk-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin. anybody can teach me how to install it?07:27
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naliothatty: breezy or hoary?07:28
attyhoary i think07:28
attyjust download kubuntu 5.0407:28
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naliothatty: then open a terminal where your file is, and type ./filename.bin07:30
naliothatty: it will probably complain, so use sudo in front of the comand07:30
attysudo: filename.bin: command not found07:31
thoreauputicatty: *cough* substitute the name of your file07:32
naliothatty: use the name of the file you want to install (i'm not typing it out for you)07:32
attyohh07:32
attyok ok07:32
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brownie17hey everyone07:32
naliothbrownie17: howdy07:33
brownie17nalioth, this place is pretty quit. i didn't even know it existe07:33
brownie17d07:33
attyi should type "sudo jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.bin ? am i right?07:33
naliothatty: no. "sudo ./jre_bleh-bleh.bin"07:33
attybash: /jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.bin: No such file or directory07:34
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thoreauputicatty: you left out the dot07:35
thoreauputicatty: ./07:35
attyohh07:35
nalioth!tell atty about cli07:35
naliothatty: ubotu has sent you a msg, please follow up with the info contained07:35
attyi have to learn a lot07:35
attyphewwwwwwwwwww07:36
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kianziackhi! i have this problem 07:37
attyi did put the dot07:38
attystill nothing07:38
kianziacki already installed yaho messenger07:38
brownie17atty, it doesn't take too long, i have opnly been using ubuntu like 3 weeks. and allready i am starting to feel omfortable07:38
kianziackwhat i want is to go chat room07:38
attybash: ./jdk-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin: No such file or directory07:38
attyi new in linux command07:38
thoreauputicatty: are you in the right directory?07:38
attysorry guys07:38
kianziackis there a chat room for yahoomessenger07:38
attydownload it at the file at desktop07:39
thoreauputicatty: cd ~/Desktop07:39
thoreauputicatty: then reissue the command07:39
attyok07:39
attyPermission Denied????? what happen?07:40
thoreauputicatty: ls -l jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.bin  <-- what does that say?07:41
atty-rw-r--r--  1 inul inul 48836045 2005-09-27 12:59 jdk-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin07:42
thoreauputicatty: erm - that's not the file you were talking about before07:43
attyic07:43
thoreauputicjre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.bin <---that was the one you were talking about07:44
thoreauputicatty: do you have 2 java files there?07:44
attywait07:44
attyi check07:44
attyyup07:45
attyi have 207:45
thoreauputicwhy?07:45
attyi download it several time before07:45
attytry to install it07:45
thoreauputic*sigh*07:45
atty:D07:45
thoreauputic!tell atty about sunjava07:45
thoreauputicatty: read what the bot sent you in pm07:46
attyok07:46
kianziackargh!!07:46
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thoreauputicwb nalioth 07:46
brownie17!brownie1707:47
ubotuI heard brownie17 is forgetful07:47
brownie17!forget brownie1707:47
ubotubrownie17: i forgot brownie1707:47
kinfo[brownie17]  is not defined07:47
thoreauputichaha07:47
brownie17:)07:47
brownie17whats kinfo?07:48
brownie17!kinfo07:48
ubotubrownie17: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?07:48
brownie17hahahahaha07:48
brownie17that's classic07:48
brownie17whoever pgroammed ubotu is genius07:48
kianziack<brownie17> whoever pgroammed ubotu is genius<---------- i cant go to chat room like the wondows do07:49
brownie17pardon? i don't understand!07:49
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kianziackwhat i want is to go to chat room where i cant meet people07:50
kianziackwhat i want is to go to chat room where i can meet people07:50
kianziacknew people07:50
naliothkianziack: you are on the wrong server07:50
kianziackhar har i am07:50
kianziacki mean yahoo messegenr07:51
brownie17you can meet me07:51
kianziacki mean yahoo messenger07:51
brownie17im kinda interesting... sometimes07:51
thoreauputickianziack: /join #newpeople ;-)07:51
kianziacknot you07:51
kianziacknot mirc07:51
brownie17i don't wear a wig if that helps you decide07:51
kianziackyahoo messenger 07:51
brownie17whats wrong with me07:51
kianziack i want to use my web cam07:51
brownie17ahh07:52
kianziackusing yahoo messenger 07:52
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kianziackso this it, it means i have to use window if i want to look for chat room07:53
brownie17you could use wine to run yahoo messenger07:54
kianziackco'z 07:54
kianziacku mean the window base?07:54
kianziackis that you mean07:54
brownie17kianziack, yes07:55
brownie17!wine07:55
brownie17nalioth, soooorrry07:55
naliothkianziack: can you compile?07:55
kianziackargh i dont know how to config this wine but ill try maybe with some help07:55
kianziackill try 07:55
kianziackim still noobv07:55
kianziackyou mean winhq?07:56
kianziackhmm kynpatic will do i think07:57
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kianziacki mean ill work with07:59
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aftertaf__neotrophy:  in console, try chmodding .ICEauthority fil to 77708:01
aftertafmornin all :)08:01
kianziackhehe wait 08:02
kianziackdoes any one know how to get wine and install08:02
kianziack^_^08:02
naliothaftertaf: neotrophy the .ICEauthority can be safely deleted if it stops you from logging in08:02
crimsunkianziack: enable universe and install wine08:02
naliothaftertaf: neotrophy: the .ICEauthority is regenerated with each session08:02
aftertafnalioth:  oki.... knew chmodding worked, if rm ing it does too, even simpler ;)08:03
aftertafhi nalioth hows things?08:03
kianziackcrimsun:  ok ill try08:03
kianziackcrimsun: tnx08:03
naliothaftertaf: ok08:04
aftertafnalioth:  cool... had fingers crossed and eyes on the news reports :)08:05
naliothyes i'm fine now, ty08:05
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pc22how do in install win apps thru wine?08:09
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crimsunwine /path/to/app.exe08:10
pc22thanks08:10
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Hobbseehey all...my breezy installed screwed up badly, so i'm about to go back to hoary.  My main question is: do i need to create a separate home partition?  In the past I havent, but seeing as i'm about to redo kubuntu, i have the opportunity to now08:14
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Hobbseeis it a good idea to create a separate /home partition?08:14
shogoukiyes08:15
Hobbseewhy?08:15
Hobbseeand what file system should i use?08:15
shogoukicause you can reinstall your system and keep all your app settings and accounts08:15
naliothHobbsee: it keeps your data intact on the off chance your / goes to hell08:15
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naliothHobbsee: although with *nix, you should never have to "reinstall" anything ever again08:16
Hobbseenalioth: should...yes, but there are sometimes PEBKAC problems that require reinstalls lol08:16
Hobbseeor at least, that's the quickest way to fix them08:17
naliothHobbsee: idk what a pebkac is08:17
Hobbseepebkac = problem exists between keyboard and chair :P08:17
naliothHobbsee: but a homedir lessens the chance of catastrophic personal data loss08:17
Hobbseeright08:17
Hobbseealso08:17
Hobbseeif i dont install all the programs that i originally had, and kept a home partition, while reinstalling08:17
Hobbseedo i have to delete them or anything?08:18
Hobbseebecause the home partition seems to have all teh configuration settings08:18
Hobbseeif that makes any sense at all...08:18
naliothHobbsee: if you dont reinstall the programs you have configs for, the configs just take up space08:19
Hobbseeright, so i could safely delete them?08:19
Hobbseethe configs for the programs i dont use, that is08:20
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Hobbseeah well...off i go and reinstall - good thing i backed up my data on a separate computer before i did this, as konqueror crashes everytime i opened it now - it really isnt working lol08:21
Hobbsee!08:21
ubotuHobbsee: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?08:21
Hobbseenow, where's that cd...08:21
naliothHobbsee: they're your configs08:22
Hobbsee*nods*08:22
kianziackwhere can i get some cd of kubuntu08:23
kianziackfor free ^_^08:23
Hobbseekianziack: as in to download it?08:23
aftertafkianziack:  dl or order from kubuntu website08:24
kianziackahh ok08:24
kianziackorder08:24
Hobbseei dont think you can order kubuntu cd's08:24
Hobbseeor you didnt use to08:24
kianziackjust asking ^_^08:25
kianziackis it possible to install the YM window base in linux using wine08:25
crimsunthe what?08:26
kianziackhave any one try it?08:26
Hobbseehttp://kubuntu.org/faq.php nope you cant order the kubuntu cd's08:26
crimsunwhat is the "YM window base"?08:26
Hobbseegot no idea08:26
kianziackYahoo messenger window base08:26
kianziacknot the unix08:26
kianziackco'z the unix base didnt have the chatroom option08:27
kianziacklike the mirc do08:27
kianziackargh... no one get the idea08:28
kianziackand even my koppete didnt work08:29
Hobbseekopete doesnt seem to do group chats on yahoo08:29
Hobbsee*thinks* - is there an alternate file browser to konqueror?08:31
kianziackthe msn didnt work to08:31
kianziackthere is08:31
Hobbseewha's ti called?08:31
kianziacktry firefox08:31
Hobbseenah, file browser, not web browser08:31
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kianziackfirefox for linux08:32
Hobbseealready got firefox and oper08:32
kianziackaws 08:32
Hobbsee*opera08:32
kianziacki see08:32
Hobbseei'm looking to browse the files on my system08:32
shogoukikq is the best file browser, why change ?08:32
kianziackyeah i think so08:32
Hobbseebecause my breezy installation is very, very screwed, is what i'm on now, and konqueror is crashing every time i try to open it08:32
kianziackwhat's the problem with that08:33
Hobbseei dont think it upgraded correctly08:33
Hobbseethe entire OS, that is08:33
shogoukiHobbsee: midnight commander -> mc08:33
Hobbseeok, cool, thanks08:34
shogoukitext mode thought08:34
Hobbseebleck08:34
Hobbseeah...i can use explore2fs under windows, i expect...off to try that...08:35
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DarkMaulmorning all09:17
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naliothhowdy09:18
DarkMaulwhere can i find a list of programs for kubuntu09:18
DarkMaulcause iam sitting here with a nice disk09:19
nextekhi09:19
DarkMaulto start installing09:19
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naliothDarkMaul: packages.ubuntu.com09:19
nextekhi09:20
nextek09:21
nextekhi09:21
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DarkMaulnice09:21
DarkMauland how dos the normal installtion go09:21
DarkMaul?09:21
naliothDarkMaul: easily09:22
DarkMaulwell09:23
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DarkMaullets give it a change09:23
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DarkMauland is it save to install the breezy edition09:28
naliothDarkMaul: you can wait 10 days and install the final version09:28
DarkMauli figured it would be possible to upgrade to the full version09:29
naliothDarkMaul: it is09:29
DarkMauliam running on SUSE now09:30
DarkMaulbut it feels really buggy09:30
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DarkMaullol09:31
DarkMaulwell will be back in a few hours09:33
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DarkMaulwell 10:08
DarkMaulthat was pretty easy10:08
DarkMaulbut i believe there is no Dual CPU support10:08
naliothDarkMaul: there is:10:08
naliothDarkMaul: are you familiar with debian?10:08
DarkMaulnot at all10:09
naliothDarkMaul: and it's packaging system?10:09
naliothDarkMaul: open a konsole and type "uname -a"10:09
naliothDarkMaul: then K > Run Application > "kdesu kynaptic"10:09
DarkMaulLinux linux 2.6.12-8-386 #1 Tue Aug 30 22:41:30 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux10:09
naliothDarkMaul: then look for the kernel that matches the output you got from uname -a10:10
DarkMauloww10:10
DarkMaulokeej10:10
naliothDarkMaul: only fine the one with -smp in it10:10
DarkMaulty10:10
naliothit'll look like this (sort of) Linux dualg5 2.6.10-5-power4-smp #1 SMP Fri Sep 23 14:28:10 UTC 2005 ppc GNU/Linux10:10
DarkMaulcan i fuck something i i select the wrong package in kynaptic10:10
naliothDarkMaul: language please. and you can ask here or #ubuntu if you're not sure10:11
DarkMauluhmm iam running kubuntu10:11
naliothDarkMaul: (k)ubuntu are the same critter10:12
DarkMaulokay10:13
DarkMauland can i install my nvidia also through kynaptic10:15
naliothDarkMaul: if you wish10:16
DarkMaulwell iam having some kind off linux culture shock10:16
naliothreally?10:17
DarkMauli have been working with SUSE the last few days10:17
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DarkMauland this all seems verry different10:17
naliothDarkMaul: yes, freedom is scary to someone imprisoned all their life10:18
DarkMaullol10:19
DarkMaulnice way to formulate it10:19
DarkMaullike glxgears is something that gives me a error on the cli10:19
naliothDarkMaul: does it run at all?10:20
DarkMaulnope10:20
DarkMaulSegmentation fault10:20
naliothDarkMaul: not surprising10:21
DarkMaulomg10:21
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DarkMaulwell updating the kernel10:24
DarkMaulKernel Panic, meet General Failure10:24
naliothwhat kernel panicked on you?10:26
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DarkMaulnothing yet, it was a joke that a good friend of mine allways made10:26
DarkMaulwell new kernel so ill be rebooting10:26
DarkMaulbrb10:26
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helpmehow do i install a new kdm?11:12
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CaiN_SAk right11:32
CaiN_SAi installed kde stuff for zulu11:32
CaiN_SAbut i cant use it11:32
CaiN_SAwhy ?11:32
helpmezulu? whats this?11:39
helpmetry in the #kanotix channel.....very friendly & helpful guys there.....as good kanotix is:)11:40
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hussamseaLne: hi, are you still unable to get to kubuntu.org? I still can't11:41
seaLnelet me check11:42
seaLnehmm can't traceroute maybe some idiot is firewalling icmp but i can access the website11:42
hussamI can't access the website? what's the IP of the website?11:44
hussamit says net timeout error in firefox11:45
hussamseaLne: do you know the IP of kubuntu.org?11:46
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seaLnekd@napier-01:~$ host kubuntu.org11:49
seaLnekubuntu.org has address 82.211.81.14711:49
naliothhussam: open a terminal and type "host www.kubuntu.org"11:49
naliothseaLne: teach a man to fish, dude11:49
seaLnenalioth: i did11:49
naliothseaLne: you gave him a fish11:49
seaLne*and* showed how i caught it :P11:49
naliothseaLne: you'd be surprised how many folks dont even see the extraneous data11:50
hussamstill can't access any kubuntu.org or ubuntu.com site. no 82.211.81.xxx ubuntu site opens11:53
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hussamI did sudo nscd -i hosts 11:55
hussambut still the same timeouts11:55
naliothhussam: servers do go down at times11:55
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hussamnalioth: it's been like this here since saturday11:55
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hussamI would really hate to have to look for another distro because of being unable to update though archive.ubuntu.com or kubuntu.org11:58
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hussambecause I really like kubuntu11:58
naliothhussam: is archive.ubuntu.com down?11:59
hussamnalioth: on my PC, it looks like it is. but it works for everybody else12:00
naliothhussam: there are MANY mirrors of archive.ubuntu.com12:02
naliothhussam: try gb.archive or us.archvive or any of the ones listed in the wiki12:02
hussamnalioth: but they are all 82.211.81.182 or 82.211.81.151 12:02
hussamnalioth: I also can't access the wiki. sincei it is 82.211.81.15012:03
naliothhussam: if that's so, then there is a DNS problem12:03
naliothhussam: where are you?12:03
hussamnalioth: In Lebanon, but all other non (k)ubuntu related sites load properly. 12:04
naliothi suspect someone in the line doesnt like ubuntu12:04
naliothbecause if the whole domain is blocked.. .. ..12:05
hussamlb.archive.ubuntu.com is also 82.211.81.18212:05
hussamnalioth: my ISP is anti Linux lol12:05
naliothhussam: try this: put "archive.ubuntu.com" into google and click on the link it will give you12:05
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hussamnalioth: it says connecting to archive.ubuntu.com in the status bar12:06
naliothhussam: ok click back and click on googles cache of it12:07
hussamnalioth: it will stay like this for a while then it will Net time out12:07
hussamnalioth: it opens the google cache page12:07
naliothhussam: when you click on googles cache of a.u.c?12:08
hussamnalioth: yes, I can access the arhcive.ubuntu.com cached page12:08
nalioththen you should call your ISP and ask why the domain is blocked12:08
naliothhussam: do you have a shell acount anywhere?12:09
hussamnalioth: what's a shell account?12:09
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seaLnehussam: in the meantime if are desperate for a package you could try using my mirror "deb ftp://mirror.cis.strath.ac.uk/ubuntu hoary main restricted universe multiverse" but you'd miss out on security stuff12:09
seaLnehussam: a machine you can ssh to12:10
naliothhussam: something you might have from the uni12:10
aftertafhussam:  that sucks, man.... :/12:11
hussamnalioth: I have an account on a Linux machine at the university but I'm at home now.12:11
naliothhussam: can you log in from home?12:11
hussamnalioth: we have both Linux and windows at the university. No, I can't log in from home. they blocked that last year.12:12
hussamseaLne: thanks for the mirror. it is working12:12
naliothhussam: if you can log in at uni and access a.u.c, then call your ISP and ask them why 12:13
hussamnalioth: ok12:14
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hussambrb, I have to reboot12:21
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blackflaghello  all :-)12:35
Kamping_Kaiserhi :)12:36
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liteinside04hello12:42
liteinside04i've been browsing d net since i installed kubuntu...12:43
liteinside04but somehow I don't see the answer regarding printer sharing...12:43
liteinside04I used kubuntu since monday but I cant print via network on my win98 puter...12:44
liteinside04any help?...12:44
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liteinside04hello...12:45
morrowhmmm12:45
liteinside04I have my samba on...12:45
liteinside04do i need to turn on NFS?12:45
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liteinside04i can copy & paste to the shared document on win98.. 12:46
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liteinside04but printing is a different thing...12:46
liteinside04hello...12:46
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liteinside04help pls... am a newbie in linux...12:47
Kamping_Kaiserliteinside04: i cant help. i dont use samba bugger all12:47
Kamping_Kaiserbut be warned, win98 (in my experiance) is a pig to network with...12:47
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liteinside04yeah...12:49
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liteinside04i installed the printer on my puter where kubuntu is installed but i changed the printed color from black to red...12:52
liteinside04any problem with cups?12:52
liteinside04:)12:53
liteinside04buzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...........12:53
liteinside04kaiser: what do you use for networking, file sharing?12:54
Kamping_Kaiserliteinside04: at home i dont (well, i use ssh ....), and at work i have one XP box that is on a samba network12:55
Kamping_Kaiser:/12:55
Kamping_Kaisersome ppl.12:55
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Kinomeeshow to change from 10mb half-duplex to 100mb full-duplex ?01:19
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Kinomeesmy samba wont work unless i get it fixed01:20
aftertaflunitik:  you around???01:20
jeh_workKinomees: plug your system into a modern switch01:20
Kinomeescant do that ... i connect to internet via XP box01:21
naliothKinomees: then change your nics to modern ones01:31
Kinomees?01:32
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hussamnalioth: I called my ISP and they said if kubuntu.org and archive.ubuntu.com work on their PCs01:43
hussamnalioth: but they still time out on mine.01:43
naliothhussam: is your hosts file ok?01:46
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hussamnalioth: /etc/hosts is intact. I even made the guy who answered the phone at the IPS office open kubuntu.org and read the first line and he did.01:48
hussamsorry ISP* office01:48
naliothhussam: is your HOSTS default?01:48
naliothb/c you DO have a blockage somewhere01:49
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hussamnalioth: yes /etc/hosts is the default one.01:49
naliothhussam: you'll need to ask someone with more knowledge than I01:50
naliothhussam: perhaps in #ubuntu 01:50
hussamnalioth: I'm currently using the ftp mirror that seaLne game me.01:51
naliothhussam: but that is not optimal, as he doesnt have security mirrors01:53
hussamnalioth: ok, I'll look up another mirror01:53
hussamnalioth: this one showed on google.com http://www.lv.kernel.org/mirrors/ubuntu/dists/ 01:55
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hussamnalioth: http://www.lv.kernel.org/mirrors/ubuntu/ looks like a good mirror.01:57
naliothhussam: you need to find the problems out02:01
naliothmirrors lag behind in their updates02:01
hussamnalioth: I know that. but after my ISP said they have no idea why it worn't work for me, I'm a bit stumped. I guess I have to go to their office, explaing stuff on the phone doesn't always work02:03
naliothor ask someone on here who is knowledgable about such things02:04
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[square] hi02:09
hussamnalioth: I connect directly to the internet, but I can also use a proxy for connecting ( but it will work slowly) 02:12
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hussamnalioth: how would I use a proxy with apt-get ?02:12
hussamnalioth: not systemwide since I normally don't need a proxy02:12
naliothhussam: another good question. have you tried "man apt-get"  ?02:12
morrowexport http_proxy=http://host:port/02:13
morrowexport ftp_proxy=$http_proxy02:13
hussammorrow: I need it to forget export http_proxy=http://host:port/ after I close konsole.02:14
morrowit does.02:14
hussammorrow: excllent02:14
morrowENV variables are only for child processes, not for the parents.02:14
hussammorrow: will this work if the proxy is an IP and not a full address?02:18
morrowyes02:18
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hussammorrow, nalioth_zZz: thanks you guys are brilliant02:21
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aftertafhussam:  you can enable apt-get for a proxy permanently too, if need be...02:22
aftertafyou create /etc/apt/apt.conf and add a special line:02:22
hussamaftertaf: how?02:23
aftertafline being  |   Acquire::http::Proxy "http://10.130.8.254:8090";       |02:23
hussamaftertaf: without the | , right?02:25
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nix101i tried copying files form my linux drive to my windows one and it says "operation not permitted" can someone help?02:28
Kamping_Kaisernix101: fat32 or ntfs02:29
nix101fat3202:29
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nix101im a total newbie by the way, only had linux a week02:29
Kamping_Kaiserlets try this02:30
Kamping_Kaiser!fat3202:30
ubotu[fat32]  http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab02:30
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nix101im gonna do a complete format and reinstal, i just need to move my data ott his other drive on fat32 for backup first02:31
Kamping_Kaiseri dont remember off the top of my head. il just check it out02:31
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nix101ubotu how do i run that file?02:32
ubotunix101: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!02:32
nix101sorry02:33
Kamping_Kaisernix101: open konsole, and type 'sudo ./filename'02:33
Kamping_Kaiserafter downloading it to filename02:33
aftertafnix101:  ubotu is a bot ;)02:33
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aftertaf!bot02:33
ubotuI'm a bot, I'm a bot. Set fire to me, I'll get hot. Reply to aftertaf? I think not. Bot, jot, chicken... rhyming sucks.02:33
aftertafdont be02:34
Kamping_Kaiserlmao02:34
Tm_T:/02:34
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nxv__how can i get my irc pwd stored in konversation?02:35
Noffielouffhi! Can someone tell me how to create a shotcut to /home/folder in kicker.. Can someone check uot in menu edit the command line for home button plz?02:35
nix101sudo: ./winmac_fstab: command not found02:36
Kamping_Kaisernix101: have you downloaded the file?02:36
nix101yea its in this folder too02:37
aftertafnxv__:  in server options somewhere......02:37
Kamping_Kaiserthen (i forgot a step :$) 'chmod 777 ./winmac_fstab && sudo ./winmac_fstab'02:37
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nxv__aftertaf: i only find the identity setup but there are only stars are displayed02:37
Noffielouffanyone??02:37
Kamping_KaiserNoffielouff: i cant 02:38
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aftertafnxv__:  secrecy mode :) thats normal02:38
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epjoin #c++02:38
epnm02:38
aftertafNoffielouff:  on the panel or in the start menu?02:38
Kamping_Kaiserheh.02:39
Noffielouffon the panel02:39
Noffielouffin kde02:39
aftertafyou can add one to the desktop, right?02:39
Noffielouffyes... but i dont know what to write in menu editor when i create new shortcut... the commandline i dont know what to write there02:40
konsoleboxhelo pips02:40
konsoleboxanybody here who use ym?02:40
aftertafadd one to the desktop then drag it to the panel.02:40
Noffielouffahhh02:41
Noffielouffi will try one sec02:41
aftertafhehe ;)02:41
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Noffielouffaftertaf: THANX m8 =)02:41
nxv__and ethereal says cant open display ??02:41
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aftertafno pb Noffielouff 02:41
nix101i can see my windows dirves now :) but when i typed"cp '/home/user/copy-me' '/media/0 GB Disk (hdb5)'" is says cp: omitting directory `/home/user/copy-me'02:42
aftertafcp -r02:42
aftertafrecursive02:43
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nix101thats not working either, it only copied half the files02:45
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m0ns00nLag time?=02:46
aftertafcp -r '/home/user/copy-me/*'02:46
nix101cp: cannot create regular file `/media/0 GB Disk (hdb5)/copy-me/x': Permission denied02:46
aftertafsudo cp -r '/home/user/copy-me/*'02:46
aftertaf;)02:46
konsoleboxhey what's the diff doing su instead of sudo02:47
konsoleboxbetter results?02:47
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aftertafnope.... 02:47
aftertaf!sudo02:47
ubotusudo is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo02:47
aftertaf!su02:47
ubotuaftertaf: Bugger all, i dunno02:47
aftertafhehe02:48
aftertafsu is where it asks you for the root pw, then you become root.....02:48
nix101im still getting errors02:48
aftertafsudo lets you run a cmd with root privileges, without borking the system02:48
aftertafnix101:  go on....02:48
konsoleboxah02:49
nix101cp: cannot create regular file `/media/0 GB Disk (hdb5)/x': Invalid argument02:49
aftertafwhy /x at the end?02:49
nix101but ti did copy more of the fiels this time then last02:49
nix101thats to cover up my file name :p02:49
konsoleboxdoes it mean i must sudo instead of su when installing new packages02:49
crtrhow to install rar ?02:49
crtrE: Package rar has no installation candidate02:49
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crtrwhen i try with sudo02:49
crtrwith apt-get , sry02:50
aftertaf!repositories02:50
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, repositories is at at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)02:50
aftertafcrtr enable multiverse & universe...rar aint free02:50
aftertafnix101:  cant help you if i cant see the actual command..... dont worry, i wont hax0r you ;)02:51
konsoleboxanother question pls.. how do i get the kernel source?02:51
aftertafapt-get.....02:52
nix101nothing encriminating, im just a private person02:52
nix101cp: cannot create symbolic link `/media/0 GB Disk (hdb5)/jre1.5.0_04/lib/i386/server/libjsig.so': Operation not permitted02:52
konsoleboxlinux-headers?02:52
nix101one fo many files02:52
konsoleboxare they enough?02:52
aftertafor synaptic..02:52
konsoleboxhow bout the whole package? linux-*.bz2???02:52
aftertafkonsolebox:  depends what you want to do...02:52
konsoleboxi need to recompile the kernel.. my video card has conflicts with intelfb02:52
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aftertafkonsolebox:  look in synaptic at the linux-   level of packages...02:53
aftertafkonsolebox:  cant you blacklist the intelfb module?02:53
konsoleboxwhere's that?02:53
konsoleboxit didn't work02:53
nix101i get the feeling im at a sivere disadvantage in linux by not knowing how to program02:53
konsoleboxwhere's the synaptic?02:53
helpmehelp me! i cant access the kde theme manager in kde control center........i just set a new kdm theme...now im not able to change it02:53
Kamping_Kaisernix, no your not. (imo)02:53
aftertafnix101:  hmmm    possibly. i share your ds, then :)02:54
aftertafhelpme:  edit kdmrc or .kdmrc    cant remember where it is....02:54
helpmeaftertaf: what to edit there?02:54
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aftertafusetheme=false  i think02:55
aftertafnix101:  what helps is knowledge of console and of filesystem :)02:55
aftertafcopy of sym link.... dunno what  is wxrong, depends on what you're copying i imagine...02:56
aftertafkonsolebox:  sudo apt-get install synaptic02:56
konsoleboxok02:56
aftertafapt-get to install it, sudo in front cos you need admin rights ;)02:57
konsoleboxok.. u know i usually do 'apt-cache search . | grep blablablah' to find a package02:57
konsoleboxbut i'll try02:57
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nxv_aftertaf: i found a way to get my pwd :)02:58
helpmeplz someone help me:(02:58
aftertaf:) nxv_ cool02:58
aftertafhelpme:  usetheme=false  i think02:58
nxv_aftertaf: ethereal ;)02:58
nxv_is there a neat simple texeditor like kate which stores files encrypted? or du i have pgp manual on commandline?02:59
LokeDKdoes kde have a search tool?03:02
aftertafLokeDK:  to search what?03:02
LokeDKfiles03:02
aftertafstart menu03:02
LokeDKlike gnome-search-tool03:02
aftertaffind files/folders on menu03:02
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LokeDKah thanks.. can you give the app name? want to bind it to a keyboard shortcut03:03
aftertafright click the option on your menu....... youll find it ;)03:03
LokeDKah kfind.. thanks a lot :)03:03
helpmeany commands to chnage kdm?03:04
konsoleboxhmm.. stil dont know to do with the linux-headers-2.6.12-8-686 i installed T_T03:06
konsoleboxthere are kernel-source-* but only up to 2.6.11.. no 2.6.12-803:07
LokeDK* Reloading K Display Manager configuration...                                    [fail] 03:07
LokeDKinvoke-rc.d: initscript kdm, action "reload" failed.03:07
LokeDKAnother question.. I can't make kdm default .. login manager03:07
LokeDKsays that ^03:07
konsoleboxfound it : linux-source-2.6.12 ^^03:08
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aftertafkonsolebox:  hehe03:12
aftertafLokeDK:  tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm ?03:12
LokeDKaftertaf: yeah.. it says that03:12
LokeDKthe same err msg03:13
helpmehelp me! i cant access the kde theme manager in kde control center........i just set a new kdm theme...now im not able to change it03:14
Hobbseekdm theme is different from kde theme03:15
aftertafhelpme:  /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc03:15
helpmeaftertaf: what do i do to it?03:15
aftertafedit that file and look for usetheme flag....03:15
aftertafi imagine....03:16
helpmeaftertaf: found it....should i set it to false?03:17
Hobbseecan we change the background kdm picture from that folder, to any image?03:17
aftertafyes helpme :) should do it...03:17
helpmeHobbsee: yes u can03:17
Hobbseeooh nice!03:17
helpmeyah...i discovered this today itself......and was equally happy!03:18
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ubuntuhi03:18
Hobbsee:D03:18
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Hobbseehi ubuntu03:18
Hobbseei thought there was some long and complicated way you had to do it...03:19
helpmeaftertaf: what will i lose when i reboot?03:19
aftertafnothing normaly03:19
konsoleboxaftertaf: have u tried the frame buffer splash?03:20
Snoopotic_kbntuevery linux-live-cd i triec does not realize the correct monitor, I use... so it runs on 60mhz... thats braking my brain... ;(03:20
Snoopotic_kbntu60 hz03:20
aftertafkonsolebox:  the breezy bootup thing? yep.03:20
Snoopotic_kbntumay I change it manually?03:20
aftertafSnoopotic_kbntu:  /etc/X11/xorg.conf... but on live cd, not sure03:21
konsoleboxhmm.. i saw it in gentoo and it's kinda cool03:21
Hobbseeah ha!  finally got it to open...03:21
konsoleboxbut it's hard to config `[:p03:21
Hobbseeoff to test it...03:21
LokeDKaftertaf: I can live with gdm.. no problem.. but seems like I'm the only one having the problem .. tried googling.. only found something on spanish lol03:22
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aftertafkonsolebox:  in breezy its automatic :)03:25
aftertafLokeDK:  weird...03:25
LokeDKindeed03:25
Hobbsee:( sorta worked...oh well03:25
aftertafsudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop|start do nothing?03:25
konsoleboxaftertaf: breezy eh.. i'll try that when i'm thru with my video card ^^03:25
aftertafits stablish now...... but waiting is understandable03:26
Hobbseeaftertaf: i rebooted the machine - was easier that wya....stayed with the new pic until i got to the login screen, then went to the default kubuntu login.  Then, at the splash screen, it seems to have displayed the new image03:26
LokeDK* Starting K Display Manager...                                                   [ ok ] 03:27
LokeDKBut nothing happens though03:27
LokeDKand stops says that it's not running03:27
LokeDKstop*03:27
Hobbseeheh...stablish...after i've already screwed my system with it this afternoon!03:27
Hobbseeto be fair though, i did have better lack last time i tried03:27
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LokeDKtried to reinstall kdm too03:28
HobbseeLokeDK: what's the problem?03:29
LokeDK* Reloading K Display Manager configuration...                                    [fail] 03:30
LokeDK[15:07:09]  <LokeDK> invoke-rc.d: initscript kdm, action "reload" failed.03:30
LokeDKkdm doesn't work03:30
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Hobbseethen how did you log in?03:30
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LokeDKgdm03:31
Hobbseeof course03:31
Hobbsee:p silly me03:31
LokeDK:)03:31
LokeDKbrb it said no errmsg now at dpkg-reconfigure.. gonna see if it works.. brb03:32
Hobbseehmmm...this thing looks to be really stuffed...03:33
burepeCan someone answer a question for me? I am using the Kubuntu Unofficial FAQ at http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/swmgmt.html#h2add .  03:33
LokeDKworked.. solution: Control Panel > Login Manager .. and that's it.. hmm03:34
HobbseeLokeDK: yay!03:34
LokeDKkinda weird :)03:35
Hobbseeheh...killall konqueror is effective03:35
burepeCan someone answer a question for me? I am using the Kubuntu Unofficial FAQ at http://kudos.berlios. In the "How to add exra repositories" section it says to "Exit from Kate (or KWrite), saving the sources.list file (that I downloaded from the FAQ) in your working directory, then put it into effect as below: " Is the "working directory" where ever I want?03:35
LokeDKControl Panel > Login Manager > Administrator Mode > "Loading..." keeps on doing that03:36
Hobbseeah well...off to kill this thing and reinstall it...03:38
burepeIt then asks me to do 2 commands. The first is "sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.`date +%y%m%d-%H%M` " I am confused because the first file and the second are the same location. Is the first one supposed to be where ever I have the file that I downloaded? Also, am I supposed to put the date in the date section?03:39
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Hobbseehey all :)04:04
Hobbseei'm back again04:04
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nikkiaburepe: they aren't the same location, look more carefully at the command...04:10
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nikkiaburepe: you'll see that the date command is surrounded by ``s, which tells the shell to execute the command enclosed, and use the result of it, so, the resulting location of the /etc/apt/sources.list.`date +.....` command will be something like /etc/apt/sources.list.20050927-1200 or something04:12
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burepeok thanks. So  should run the commands as they are? 04:15
nikkiaburepe: if you want, though you might want to spend some time reading the manpages for the commands used, so you get a feel for what is happening, rather than just blindly trusting someone else not to trash your system04:20
burepeok 04:20
burepe22:35]  <burepe> Can someone answer a question for me? I am using the Kubuntu Unofficial FAQ at http://kudos.berlios. In the "How to add exra repositories" section it says to "Exit from Kate (or KWrite), saving the sources.list file (that I downloaded from the FAQ) in your working directory, then put it into effect as below: " Is the "working directory" where ever I want?04:21
burepe[22:36]  <LokeDK> Control Panel > Login Manager > Administrator Mode > "Loading..." keeps on doing that04:21
burepe[22:38]  <Hobbsee> ah well...off to kill this thing and reinstall it...04:21
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burepe[22:39]  <burepe> It then asks me to do 2 commands. The first is "sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.`date +%y%m%d-%H%M` " I am confused because the first file and the second are the same location. Is the first one supposed to be where ever I have the file that I downloaded? Also, am I supposed to put the date in the date section?04:21
burepesorry04:21
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burepeI understand basics like mv and the syntax04:22
=== sproingie uses that form of backup name so often he just has a one-liner script for it now
potheadoy,kaffiene doesn't play me mp3's today04:22
burepebut I don't understand these two commands04:22
sproingieburepe: the mv command is renaming the file, it's sticking the datestamp at the end04:22
burepeI screwed up and did sudo mv /home/burepe/Desktop/etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.`date +%y%m%d-%H%M`04:23
Blissex'cp' has its own fairly tolerable backup options.04:23
burepeI thought it was asking for the file I downloaded04:24
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sproingieBlissex: gnu cp does at any rate04:24
alvagornHI04:24
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nikkiawow, didn't realise that the \; in there had to be quoted :)04:24
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nikkiagah, that time it didn't? grrrr04:25
sproingietho on solaris i rarely had to manually back up config files since we always used wrapper scripts that wrapped around sccs04:25
burepeI am confused because I downloaded a file edited it and then the commands that the faq says to do have nothing to do whith the command I edited. Now I still have the edited sources.list on my desktop and I don't know what to do with it.04:25
sproingiei really wish a linux distribution would use version control on /etc at least04:25
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sproingieburepe: presumably it should be in /etc/apt, not your desktop?04:26
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burepeThe faq says to download 2 files to "your work area" and it says nothing about moving them. Could you take a look at this page and explain what they mean? http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/swmgmt.html#h2add04:29
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sproingieworking directory is the directory you're currently in.  anyway those are some terribly written instructions04:31
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burepemy sources.list file is empty now too04:32
burepeI don't know what happened04:32
burepeI was using the ubuntu unofficial faq a while ago and someone from this channel told me to use this one. I'm lost and I screwed my sources.list file04:33
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konsoleboxwer do i get mesa-common-dev?04:48
hussamhow do I know which package installed a certain file?04:48
nxv_is esvn brooken? cant open workdir04:49
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sproingieburepe: afk ... you still having probs with sources.list?04:57
dajomuanyone know how to resize a win2000 server partition?04:57
sproingiedajomu: qtparted will do it04:58
dajomuwill it resize a ntfs partition?05:01
sproingieyes05:02
dajomuqtparted and gparted is the same utility right?05:02
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sproingiethey're both front ends to parted, yes05:03
sproingiei tend to recommend the qt tool in the kde channel since you most likely have it05:04
dajomuI tried that one on my laptop but is didnt work. do I need to download some addon or something?05:05
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sproingie"didn't work" doesn't help me much05:08
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dajomusproingie - I unmounted the ntfs partition, but the option for resizing was still greyed out or not available. No error message05:10
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sproingiedo you have partitions mounted already on this disk?05:10
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sproingieyou probably need to do it from a boot disk05:11
sproingiehttp://www.sysresccd.org/05:11
sproingiethat comes with qtparted on it.  just burn it, boot it, and run qtparted05:11
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dajomuoki. thanks. I'll give it a try05:14
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slow-motionhallo05:25
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whoiamhello musashi 06:00
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whoiamanybody know how to I add GPG key for kde3.5 ?06:05
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Riddellwhoiam: gpg --import06:15
whoiamRiddell: I fixed it :) thnx anyway 06:15
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sebastianI using kde as window mangager for Ubuntu, but my litle sister miss games, where are the KDE games I ask?06:21
Hydrogenoddly enough, under the kdegames package06:22
Hydrogen:P06:22
sebastianOh, I had to reaload the apt pakages info.  Thanks anyway. :)06:22
foodcoman=D06:22
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Kaibahow does one repair their network when you can't go into admintrator options and when you go in through root the settings don't save?06:26
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mzelemhello, anyone know how to get mp3's playing?06:35
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wellsohi there every106:38
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obontuhey06:39
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mzelemhello, anyone know how to get mp3's playing?06:39
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Riddellmzelem: in which program?06:40
obontui'm using 1024x768 and whenever i restart ubuntu it switches back to 1024x128006:40
obontui tick "default" but it won't work06:40
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Riddellmzelem: gstreamer0.8-mad for amarok and kaffeine, akode-mpeg for hoary06:40
mzelemwell, xmms, or amarok would be fine... 06:40
wellsohow would i go about upgrading to breezy from hoary?06:41
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mzelemI tried apt-get install gstream0.8-mad but it wouldn't find it06:41
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foodcomanmzelem: Have you updated your repositories?06:44
foodcomanhttp://kudos.berlios.de <--has a kubuntu guide that covers repositories for Hoary.06:45
mzelemk...06:45
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foodcomanmzelem: also maybe try Kynaptic or Synaptic for install, easier search.  However that FAQ has some great help for command line also.06:47
mzelemok, thanks06:48
foodcoman=)06:48
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mzelemevery time I try to open up Kynaptic, after it asks for the password it closes the program06:50
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foodcomanHave you ever changed the sudo password?06:51
for1Is it possible to have different desktop environments on different Desktops Something like KDE on Desktop 1,GNOME on Desktop 2 Windowmaker on Desktop 3 etc.06:51
foodcomanI use the same password as I do for my primary user.06:51
mzelemyeah, me too06:52
mzelembut if I type the wrong password then it tells me but if I type the right password it flips out06:52
foodcomanfor1: I havent a clue!  Sorry, sounds tough though, alot to load.06:52
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foodcomanmzelem: does sudo work in console?06:53
mzelemum... dunno06:53
mzelemI just switched from Suse... not sure exactly what sudo is...06:53
hydrogensudo allows you do use root commands as user06:54
hydrogenits ubuntu's prefered way of doing things, instead of becoming root06:54
for1oh , u know what earlier when i was on A FC 2 system ,  the DE used to switch between KDE and GNOME e.g. i used to boot into kde session but after abt 5 minutes of login the DE changed back to gnome06:55
foodcomanmzelem: http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/swmgmt.html#h2get  Read the from command line section if Kynaptic giving you trouble.06:55
mzelemoh... so su is frowned upon...06:55
foodcomanfor1: Havent seen that with Kubuntu/Ubuntu yet, my first install was Ubuntu with Gnome, then added KDE, no problems.06:56
foodcomanmzelem: I think the approach is rather than a perm instance, its per command.06:56
mzelemi see... 06:57
foodcomana sudo -i does about the same as an SU, but I am sure some would suggest avoiding it.06:57
mzelemwell, running kynaptic from the commandline seems to have worked fine06:57
foodcomanI am not sure I totally understand its benefits, but it is not restrictive.06:57
foodcomanAnything you need root, use........ sudo command06:58
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foodcomanBeen having trouble browsing my windows network with Breezy.07:02
mzelemwell, still no gstreamer0.8-mad... but plenty of other gstreamer0.8* packages...07:02
foodcomanDid you update your repos?07:02
mzelemyeah...07:03
foodcomanHave you tried xmms for playing MP3?07:03
mzelemyeah, that didn't work07:03
foodcomanhrmmm.07:03
mzelemeither that or it won't play mp3's over samba....07:03
foodcomanOdd, all the base installs worked great for me.07:04
foodcomanHahaha, at least your Samba is working, I cant get to my windows stuff, but I am playing with the beta, Probably me though.07:04
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mzelemactually, I am still having issues with my samba... I had to find it some wierd way07:05
foodcomanmzelem: have you been doing update(s) and upgrade(s)07:06
Mose`yo07:06
mzelemwell, actually, I am on a completely fresh install right now, I just installed this this morning07:06
mzelemit probably would be a good idea to update....07:06
foodcomanHoary or the new Breezy?07:07
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foodcomansudo apt-get update <-- in console07:07
mzelemthe new one07:07
foodcomanthen07:07
foodcomansudo apt-get upgrade07:07
foodcomanYou might want to use different repos than the ones at Kudos.07:07
foodcomanIf you dont mind a direct message I will send them to you?07:08
mzelemwell, actually, I'm using whatever repos are set up by default07:08
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buzis there any way to get temperature readings from an usb drive?07:09
buzhddtemp says07:09
buz/dev/sda: Maxtor 6L200P0:  known drive, but it doesn't have a temperature sensor.07:09
foodcomanbuz: No clue!07:09
foodcomanmzelem: Have you uncommented any of the lines?07:10
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mzelemum... any of the lines where?07:10
foodcoman in /etc/apt/sources.list07:11
mzelemnope, haven't even looked at it...07:11
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foodcomanthat is the config file for all the repositories which are available to update and software.07:11
mzelemok... any suggestions on what I should do with that file?07:12
foodcomanMine might not be perfect like the guru's, but it I have like 17,000+ packages available for install and upgrade.07:12
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mzelemcool... so how do I know which repositories I should be using?07:12
foodcomancant spam in forum, so no file posts, but I can message you direct?  OK?07:13
mzelemsure07:13
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FraeonAny Banshee users?07:15
foodcomanLet me know when you have it all.07:16
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spiralhi07:17
foodcomanHello spiral 07:17
foodcomanFraeon: Never used it.07:17
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zAo^Fraeon, the music app you mean?07:21
FraeonYeah.07:21
FraeonI never had luck with amaroK when syncing an ipod :P07:22
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FraeonSeems to work with Banshee but I have my own problems with it07:22
newcomerif i copy /var/cache/apt/archives to a cd.....then do a fresh install...put the archives folder back in place....do apt-get <name of packages in folder>.....will it all get installed without internet? plz answer07:23
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bobesponjadoes breezy comes with kdevlop or do I need to use universe package?07:26
newcomerbobesponja: ive heard it doesn't07:26
newcomeru can see it in the full package list also...aint there.....i say its a shame..that even kubuntu dvd should miss out on kdevelop07:27
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bobesponjanewcomer: yeah i was desappointed the dvd didnt come with neither digikam nor kdevelop07:29
bobesponjaas I didn't have the net, i downloaded the dvd before travelling 07:29
bobesponja:(07:29
bobesponjanewcomer: and how about the 3. preview?07:30
bobesponja3.507:30
bobesponjado you know if it comes with kdevelop?07:30
newcomerno....i couldnt find it in packages list at distrowatch07:32
newcomerbobesponja: have u tried kanotix?07:32
newcomerive found it to be much better than kubuntu07:32
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`ph8ah h ello all07:46
`ph8was hoping this channel was here07:46
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`ph8I've just dist-upgraded to breezy and when i boot, after all the processes have started and [ok] 'd etc. I get a blank screen for maybe three seconds  then i get thrown into the terminal07:47
orace|:(07:47
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`ph8runlevel is 307:47
`ph8it was 207:47
`ph8which was odd07:47
orace|that's plain mean :(07:47
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`ph8but how do i debug kde?07:47
`ph8anyone know where its error logs are etc?07:47
`ph8or is it X i need to be debugging?07:47
`ph8and i'm assuming i can't multi task in terminal only? i.e. i'll have to quit irssi to try this07:48
orace|start with X, kde, kdm07:48
`ph8kdm is running07:48
`ph8which is odd07:48
`ph8surely?07:48
orace|yes you can07:48
orace|alt+F1 etc07:48
orace|alt+F2 etc07:48
`ph8good call07:48
`ph8sec then07:48
orace|gives you nwe virtual terminals07:48
orace|new*07:48
`ph8mega07:48
`ph8who needs a desktop :p07:48
orace|:)07:48
orace|I don't know if/where kde and kdm logs07:49
orace|try locate + grep07:49
orace|I don't have access to my kubuntu lappy now07:49
orace|:\07:49
libbenhttp://hem.passagen.se/standby/bilder/DSC01009.JPG tooked this today when i was tailing his ass in 130 mph. and maxxed zoomed on my SE K750i mobile phone.07:50
`ph8fatal server error07:50
`ph8could not open default font 'fixed'07:50
`ph8x server's font paths might be misconfigured07:50
`ph8and or fonts may be installed locally and not configured correctly07:50
`ph8think i should remove xfonts-base and reinstall?07:50
`ph8or will that not do anything?07:50
`ph8dpkg --status xfonts-base says install ok07:51
`ph8brb trying a reboot, hold those thoughts!07:52
`ph8:)07:52
orace|allright07:52
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libbensorry,,, teh mph aint right was more about 110 mph.07:53
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ubuntualgum brasileiro aqui ?07:57
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utter_a while back a kind soul helped with a ppc kdevelop problem...07:57
ubuntuqual o comando para instalar o kubuntu no HD ?07:57
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utter_now I have another - kdevelop3 on Breezy PPC says it can't install07:58
ph8success!07:58
ph8thanks for help07:58
orace|yay07:58
orace|great pheight07:58
ph8hope it's not a fluke :p07:58
ph8Anything super cool about breezy i should know about?07:58
orace|it shouldn't have happened though :+07:58
orace|yeah07:58
ph8not positive as to why it did07:58
ph8i installed xfs07:58
ph8which i think sorted it07:59
ph8should i have xfs on a desktop though?07:59
orace|what's xfs07:59
ph8X Font Server07:59
orace|isn't that the SGI filesystem?07:59
orace|oh07:59
ph8i had a couple of errors while dist-upgrading07:59
ph8so maybe it happened then07:59
orace|oh07:59
ph8firefox crashed it or somesuch07:59
utter_anyone using ppc Breezy?08:01
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elvirolohi all08:03
ph8ppc?08:03
elvirolois anyone using NFS ?08:03
utter_power PC08:03
utter_It's running on a Mac iBook08:03
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foodcomanutter_: There are ones who do, just timing in the channel!08:05
slow-motion<ph8> i had a couple of errors while dist-upgrading < *g* i read terrorrists08:06
ph8lol08:06
ph8they raided the house to get to my code, but they had to wait till breezy was finished08:06
slow-motionlol08:06
ph8they've helicoptered away now :p08:06
seaLnebah restarted my machine and konq crashes as soon as i start it08:06
Tm_Tok08:06
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seaLneelvirolo: what are you wanting to know about nfs?08:06
utter_foodcoman: cheers - someone helped me before but like a fool I upgraded ;)08:07
elviroloseaLne: well, i'd like to share files between my two ubuntu boxes08:07
seaLnesounds like nfs would be fine08:08
elviroloseaLne: but the thing is ... NFS doesn't appear in the KDE dialog, only SAMBA08:11
seaLnewhich dialog?08:11
elviroloso i was wondering what package i had to install08:11
seaLnenfs-kernel-server08:11
elvirolokcontrol => network => file sharing08:12
seaLneyou then put lines such as "/path/to/export/ other.host(rw)" in /etc/exports08:12
elvirolook thanks :)08:15
seaLneto mount it on the other machine you'd do mount otherhost:/path/to/export /mnt or similar, you can also put it in /etc/fstab08:16
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elviroloah it acts just like another partition08:17
elviroloi didn't know that, thanks :)08:17
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seaLneelvirolo: yep08:18
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mzelemanyone know how to get sound working on xmms and gaim at the same time (or any program for that matter)08:22
redtech`javamy laptop now freezes after loading the desktop after loading a series of updates.  I am now booted into the recovery mode, is there anything I can check to get an idea of what problems I'm experiencing?08:23
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strhi all08:37
strI'm upgrading to breezy!08:37
strnice new login08:37
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ttyS0sorry for lame question, but if i can run any apps on kdm startup?09:47
gdhAnyone who can answer a question about linux-image version numbers?09:50
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_oshgdh: just ask. if someone knows they'll tell you.09:51
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gdhI've just been reading the changelog.Debian for 2.6.12-9.14 - the previous is 2.6.12-8.13 - why the bump of 8 -> 9? Why not 8.14, and what's with the '8' or '9' in the first place?09:51
gdhheh :)09:51
gdhGMTA =)09:51
_oshgdh: I'm assuming it has something to do with the deb-package. Can't really tell what the 9 stands for though. Some bigger change perhaps. Someone in #debian might know.09:54
gdhoki =)09:55
_oshI do some rpm-packaging for a living, there I use the versioning number like softwareversionmajor.minor-rpmversion, where I update the rpmversion whenever I roll a new package. Say if I've done something wrong.09:57
_oshI'm guessing they're doing something similar.09:57
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_jbHi10:00
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gdh_osh: Oh I perfectly understand the 'package version number', just curious as to the 'major-minor' bumping :)10:11
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_carlosApa PEAAAAAAAAAAAA10:28
_carlosMe pica la polla10:28
_carlosHi everybody10:29
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_carlos_Pos vale10:29
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_oshIs there something similar to the windows "portfolio" functionality in kubuntu? Synching my laptop with my server in an easy way? 10:40
_oshI'm thinking gui here. I'm well aware of rsync but don't want to use it.10:41
_oshI want something where I can just push a button and have both places in sync with eachother.10:41
libbenis there something wrong with my sources? cause i get alots of failing on many repos. http://pastebin.com/376172 my sources.. should i update it ?10:42
Riddelllibben: breezy needs constant  apt-get update10:42
gdh_osh: look for 'unison' - the UI is quite hideous last time I used it.. but it might be enough.10:43
_oshgdh: Unison. Will have a look at that. Thanks a bunch.10:43
libbenRiddell: u mean the reload function in synaptic ? thats when i get the errors.10:44
libbenor errors10:44
libbenit tells me it fails on some repos10:44
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naliothlibben: breezy is gonna fail until oct 1310:45
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ph8i thought it was 23?10:45
naliothlibben: why you need to update at least every day10:46
ph8i'm running breezy with no major issues atm10:46
ph8but it's only been up for 7 hours10:46
_oshsame here...10:46
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naliothi should say: apt-get updates may have some pkg failures until oct 13 (cuz they're being worked on)10:47
libbennow when i looked at wich repos failing, it was mainly the horay extras that failed10:47
libbenall other worked.10:47
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ph8why do you still have hoary extras on breezy?10:47
naliothlibben: hoary extras are not for breezy10:47
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libbennalioth: well i know =) but there aint extras for breezy10:48
libbenthats why im using horays for that10:48
naliothlibben: not yet. let them finalize breezy first10:48
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naliothlibben: i'd not use hoary anything on breezy10:49
alvaritoolaaa10:49
libbenwell, i needed rar that could support 3.4 version10:49
libbenthats why10:49
libbenand it was in there10:49
libbenbtw10:49
libbenhttp://hem.passagen.se/standby/bilder/DSC01009.JPG tooked this today when i was tailing his ass in 130 mph. and maxxed zoomed on my SE K750i mobile phone.10:49
libbenhmm... mph aint right, should be around 110~ mph10:50
naliothlibben: just use kph10:50
libbenok it was above 160 kph10:52
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libbenthought it was a funny plate.10:52
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orace|cool10:53
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libbengonna have linux26 on mine10:54
libbenso its more updated =)10:54
orace|hehe10:54
noobietuxhello there10:59
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noobietuxi have a serious problem with konqueror : it keeps on crashing without being fully loaded. I tried an "apt-get install --reinstall konqueror" and then with all KDE & QT packages but nothing changed11:01
noobietuxi even installed KDE 3.5 but still the same problem11:02
Hydrogennoobietux: rm -rf ~/.kde and try?11:02
noobietuxI have already tried11:03
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naliothnoobietux: dont remove it, just rename it11:03
noobietuxwell the only clue i have is that this problem happened after i deleted a konqueror.rc or else file in the ~.kde folder11:04
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aseigoHydrogen: ug. please don't recomend that to people..11:05
aseigoHydrogen: since that will delete their bookmarks, calendars, contacts, etc, etc11:05
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Hydrogenaseigo: and there is no way to know what exactly is the thing thats breaking it11:05
Hydrogenof course, a mv would have been better11:05
aseigoHydrogen: there are a limited number of things it can be, though11:06
noobietuxoh it's ok it's the first thing i have done when seeing konqueror behaving abnormally11:06
aseigoe.g. ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/*11:06
mrmarcelhi11:06
aseigoor ~/.kde/share/config/konquerorrc11:06
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aseigoother possibilities, if that doesn't work, are things like the khtml settings, caches...11:07
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noobietuxthe fact is that it behaves poorly after i have deleted those files11:07
aseigobut since it happened when there was a deletion of konquerorrc, then i'm going to guess it's konq data specific11:07
noobietux(sorry for my english)11:07
aseigonoobietux: if you remove those files, then it uses the system wide ones. that would indeed be a problem =)11:07
aseigo(if using the system wide configs are causing crashes, that is)11:08
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cynehi all :)11:09
noobietuxyes i think so but i am unable to locate those system wide settings11:09
noobietuxand i had "apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-default-settings" several times11:10
naliothnoobietux: have you "apt-get remove --purge kdebase"11:10
naliothkubuntu-desktop wont remove anything11:11
noobietuxno, good idea nalioth i try this11:11
noobietuxyes i experienced reconfiguring metapackages is useless11:12
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noobietuxit didn't worked11:14
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cyneKubuntu rules!11:17
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noobietuxmaybe i have a way to investigate : #187 0xb6a75280 in __malloc_initialize_hook () from /lib/tls/libc.so.611:18
noobietuxfrom Krash handler11:19
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cyneanyone know how to stop sound skipping?11:33
cynewhen playing mp3 etc11:33
kalenedraelIt may be a problem with the MP3.11:33
cynekalenedrael: nope because it even does it with the sound test in the System area11:34
kalenedraelCheck the CPU usage to see if there is anything anomalous. Sometimes the sound server likes to take up tons of CPU doing nothing.11:34
cyneok11:35
kalenedraelI have a question of my own, actually. I run a 64-bit system, and I want to install a bunch of 32-bit libs so I can run 32-bit apps, because some apps don't play nice with 64-bit.11:35
kalenedraelHow do I do this? apt doesn't like it when I try to install 32-bit packages.11:36
naliothkalenedrael: in the long run, you'd be better running k7 or 686 kernel11:36
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kalenedraelHmm.11:36
kalenedraelI dunno.11:36
kalenedraelI like the 64-bit kernel.11:37
naliothkalenedrael: then you'll be in chroot hell tryin to get your 32bit stuff to run nicely11:39
cynekalenedrael: the artsd process is taking 153,000 in virtual memory and 20% of the CPU11:40
cynehmmmm11:40
cynethat is a big sound process ?11:41
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Hydrogenerr, thats arts sucking away11:42
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cyneok i fixed it somehow11:44
cyneby mucking around with KMix :)11:44
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noobietuxok my problem with konqueror is fixed11:45
noobietuxi had to "apt-get remove --purge libkonq4" et then reinstall it11:45
naliothnoobietux: great!11:46
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noobietuxthanks a lot for your help though11:46
noobietux(rox filer was a pain in the neck for me)11:46
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noobietuxi hav a last question : does anyone knox hox to have to get back the usefull sidebar ?11:48
noobietuxs/hav/have11:49
naliothnoobietux: F911:49
noobietuxs/knox/know & s/hox/how (sorry)11:49
noobietuxokay seems easy :) thanx11:49
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noobietuxnope i just deleted konquerorrc because i couldn't find my sidebar11:51
kalenedraelHmm.11:52
strnoobietux: find  .kde | grep konqueror -i11:52
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