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klepasmoin moin05:50
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mpathyHi.. Anybody online? ;)08:44
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mikkel/quit09:20
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mikkelarhg! my X is dead, and I can't get my head around this IRC client :-S09:23
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kamstrupweee! (I was mikkel before...)09:26
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mpathyhi..10:17
mpathywho works on what right now?10:17
kamstrupI don't work on anything new atm. Might make the final adjustments to my rocky_shore wallpaper I posted to the ML later today though.11:11
mpathyah.. you are the one with the transparent png? its nice11:11
kamstrupyes I am. Thanks :-D11:12
kamstrupI think you're free to do what ever you like ...11:12
kamstrupWe need work in every single area :-S11:12
=== ..[topic/#ubuntu-artwork:kamstrup] : Artwork deadline is this thursday! Turn up your music and get to work!
mpathyi know :( but i dont have really much time the next days.. thats too bad!12:07
mpathybut I'll try to do a transparent png of the default background! what do you think?12:18
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mpathyWhat is the most important task? Perhaps I have some free time @ work.. :)02:48
derek[] :)02:54
mpathyderek[] : now? is there some little work? ;)03:02
derek[] i wouldn't know mpathy 03:03
derek[] mpathy, http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2005-September/000260.html03:04
kamstrupI just finished my rocky_shore background and submitted it to art.ubuntu.com (waiting to be accepted).03:18
kamstrupCheck it out: JPG: http://www.skim.dk/breezy/ogmore/ogmore-1600x1200.jpg03:19
kamstrupPNG: http://www.skim.dk/breezy/ogmore/ogmore-1600x1200.png (tansparent)03:19
=== derek[] looks
mpathynice03:24
mpathyderek[] : i looked at the list but I didnt see where is the progress who works on what etc.03:25
kamstrupI especially like how the pngs look with a vertical gradient behind it...03:26
derek[] mpathy, ask kamstrup 03:26
mpathykamstrup: I dont know who works on what!03:27
kamstrupderek[] , mpathy : Me sa kno' notin'03:27
kamstrupSeriously...03:28
mpathyhmm..03:28
kamstrupRight now we need the following:03:28
mpathyapropos read my mail? it seems that its only going to you but not to the mailing list, if I understand my mailer daemon right.. :)03:29
kamstrupWallpaper for main inclusion targeting young audience (go for cool factor)03:29
kamstrupSix calendar images03:29
kamstrupJust because I've submitted proposals for childrens- and realistic wallpapers doesn't mean you can't try out in that also...03:30
derek[] kamstrup, "Me sa kno' notin" = ?03:30
kamstrupderek[] : ... = I know nothing :-D03:31
derek[] :D03:31
derek[] in which language?03:31
kamstrupsort of rastafari-gangsta03:31
kamstrup;P03:32
kamstrupI suggested four categories for main wallpapers (children, teenage/cool, abstract, realism)03:33
kamstrupTo me volvoguys swirl http://art.ubuntu.com/backgrounds/ubuntu/3 is the best "abstract"03:34
kamstrupI'm not sure I'm totally happy with my children's suggestion: http://art.ubuntu.com/backgrounds/ubuntu/4403:36
kamstrupI have an idea...03:38
kamstrupAre any of you (derek[] , mpathy) working on anything atm?03:39
derek[] yes03:39
kamstrup-- care to enlighten me ? :-P03:39
derek[] btw, that children one doesn't have the logo in full03:39
derek[] kamstrup, how?03:40
mpathykam03:40
mpathykamstrup: wouldnt it be enough to have at least one (the first) calendar image?03:40
kamstrupderek[] : True. I could add one, but I'm not sure that we'd wan't to go with it anyway...03:40
kamstrupmpathy: I don't think so.03:41
derek[] ok03:41
derek[] kamstrup, these artworks submitted can be edited ?03:41
derek[] by anybody?03:41
kamstrupmpathy: I don't think we have proven ourselves trustworthy enough (yet)03:41
derek[] and replace the original?03:41
kamstrupderek[] : ? You mean the ones on art.ubuntu.com?03:42
mpathykamstrup: why? better than six poorly selected..03:42
mpathy..i mean if we look at the deadline03:42
kamstrupmpathy: We only have the power to "suggest" a collection to Canonical. If they don't like it, they'll come up with their own03:43
derek[] yes03:43
kamstrupmpathy: or, if we don't make the deadline they'll hire a pro03:43
kamstrupmpathy: atleast, that's what i figure03:43
kamstrupderek[] : It's not possible to edit the submitted art (sadly), I'd just submit a "Child's Play 2"03:44
mpathykamstrup: oh okay.. but we can write them some suggestions, beside suggesting some pictures. if they like our Ideas, they have ressources to get them done..03:45
mpathykamstrup: for example, the idea with the transparent png's which is really good :)03:45
kamstrupmpathy: Yes, that is correct03:45
kamstrupthx03:46
mpathykamstrup: who will suggest the things to canonical?03:46
kamstrupvolvoguy (Aaron Waite) he's the ArtTeam coordinator03:47
kamstrupunfortuneatly he has run into some serious back-trouble03:47
kamstrupderek[] : What are you working on?03:51
mpathykamstrup: and with resources I mean - if they like the elements idea for example, they can buy good stock photos.. perhaps, even if some idea is good, but it couldnt get the quality it couldnt have with better ressources, canonical at least take over the idea :)03:51
derek[] something03:51
derek[] a GUI03:51
mpathykamstrup: did you get my mail a few hours ago?03:51
kamstrupoh, I thought it was something for the ArtTeam, sorry ;-P03:51
kamstrupmpathy: Yes. It's a good idea with the "real calendar" in the calendar images, except that we'd have problems with localization03:54
mpathykamstrup: i think derek is at the office - like me - so he could only chat a bit without being fired ;)03:54
derek[] brb03:54
kamstrupmpathy: I'm at $HOME supposedly finishing my masters ;-P03:54
mpathykamstrup: the first two letters of the weekdays is sth. everybody understands, dont you think?03:54
kamstrupmpathy: No... I don't :P03:55
mpathykamstrup: surely we can make no hebrew, islamic, etc. calendar, but an international calendar everybody understands.03:55
kamstrupmaybe...03:56
mpathykamstrup: hmm.. at least 25% of all calendars i had ever, where international, and I did03:56
kamstrupbtw: gnome-art is in the repos... You can install it from the app installer03:59
kamstrupsearch for gnome-art03:59
mpathykamstrup: it would be sooo easy, if we could at another layer to the background.. but okay, you can have a calendar trough gDesklets, but it doesnt work properly in ubuntu :(04:00
kamstrupIn an SVG you could have a cronjob script that changed the date04:01
mpathykamstrup: oh, okay! it should be integrated as default in "drapper" it is very novice-friendly :)04:02
derek[] back04:02
derek[] sorry04:02
kamstrupcheers04:02
=== kamstrup is compiling a list with Element ideas...
mpathykamstrup: really? that sounds great! we also could do a ubuntu circle who is around the current day - woah ;)04:03
kamstrupmpathy: Not likely to be accepted though, since it requires both scripts and a cronjob...04:04
kamstrupmpathy: a little to much for a wallpaper04:04
mpathykamstrup: ..and as a package like "ubuntu-calendar-dynamic"...? ;)04:05
derek[] mpathy, i don't work in an office, but at home.04:06
mpathyderek[] : and I am in an office and with one hand on the "minimize" shortcut *gg*04:06
derek[] hehe04:07
derek[] and your work profile there is?04:07
kamstrupderek[] : He's a lead engineer on Windows Wista04:08
kamstrup;-P04:08
derek[] lol04:09
kamstrupElemental ideas so far:04:12
kamstrupFire-Air:       The sun, sparks flying out of a bonfire04:12
kamstrupFire-Earth:     Volcano04:12
kamstrupAir-Water:      Rain, a whale spraying water, A rainy day, a rainbow04:12
kamstrupAir-Earth:      A tree (crown in the air roots in the earth), a breeze over a savannah producing a dust swirl 04:12
kamstrupFire-Water:     Coffee, fire/sparks reflecting in water?04:12
kamstrupWater-Earth:    A pool or lake, a spring, waterfall04:12
kamstrup...04:16
kamstrupWe might also consider making a splash screen.04:16
derek[] what's with combining fire, water, air and earth?04:17
kamstrupThere are no Gnome splashes on art.ubuntu.com, nor am I aware of anyone working on one...04:17
derek[] i see04:18
mpathykamstrup: hey not SUCH jokes :P04:20
mpathyderek[] : I'm a media designer.. mostly doing retouches or ad's04:20
derek[] i see04:21
derek[] on which platform?04:21
mpathyderek[] : like the most in this branche, we use Mac (OS X)04:24
mpathylike I do now.. with Colloquy as IRC Client, a great program, its sad that its not ported right now..04:25
kamstrupIt just came to my mind...04:26
derek[] ok04:26
kamstrupI had a dream about X.org 7.0 this night... Scary :-S04:26
derek[] mpathy, and you must be working with Photoshop?04:26
mpathyderek[] : right.. apropos this is a very nice IRC: www.mpathy.de/files/irc_on_osx.pdf04:31
mpathyderek[] : there you see the program (icons) i am working with..04:32
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derek[] all Adobe and Macromedia products04:34
mpathybut i also have MacGimp and Inkscape!04:34
derek[] :)04:34
mpathybut, to be honest, Gimp is not bad, but this horrific user interface :(04:35
kamstrupSorry, I gotta go. Nice talking to you guys!04:35
mpathyits very sad that they dont make a new GimpShop: http://plasticbugs.com/index.php?p=24104:38
derek[] a GimpShop?04:41
mpathyyes ;) look at the freshmeat hp :) http://freshmeat.net/projects/gimpshop/?branch_id=57360&release_id=19229604:41
mpathygreat idea, but only one person working on it.. if I only would be better in programming..04:42
derek[] where did you train yourself in these programs? (photoshop and others)04:43
mpathyfirst yes, but then also at school (didnt know the right word.. sth. like "academy of arts")04:46
mpathyand now i worked few years with them..04:46
derek[] ok04:48
derek[] and your interest in Gimp after using Photoshop?04:48
derek[] i mean you don't like its layout etc. :)04:49
mpathyhmm? its free and it has most features of photoshop, but it lacks of a ergonomic user interface.. or what did you mean?04:50
mpathyand I need a programm which I can use at home without feeling guilty ;)04:51
derek[] I mean.. why would you bother about the free part when you already are working in Photoshop?04:51
derek[] ahh :) verstehe04:51
mpathyhehe :) woher kommst du eigentlich?04:51
derek[] India04:51
derek[] lerne deutsch04:52
derek[] parle un peu de francais04:52
derek[] i russkii tozhe04:52
mpathy*g*04:52
mpathygood :)04:52
derek[] =)04:53
derek[] that's a problem with the designers using open source tools.. if they look for a full-time job, they'll have to learn the commercial tools04:53
derek[] :/04:53
derek[] unless they've been as lucky as you to get the chance to study in an art school04:54
derek[] or they don't feel guilty at home about using something ... ;)04:54
derek[] btw, are you a regular here?04:55
mpathynot really study.. its more like an ordinary job.. more craft then unbridled creativity - but thats good :)04:56
derek[] you studied using photoshop and macromedia products in the "academy of arts", didn't you?04:57
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derek[] mpathy, 05:07
derek[] ?05:07
derek[] talk to you later05:09
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