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[05:50] <klepas> moin moin
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[08:44] <mpathy> Hi.. Anybody online? ;)
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[09:20] <mikkel> /quit
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[09:23] <mikkel> arhg! my X is dead, and I can't get my head around this IRC client :-S
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[09:26] <kamstrup> weee! (I was mikkel before...)
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[10:17] <mpathy> hi..
[10:17] <mpathy> who works on what right now?
[11:11] <kamstrup> I don't work on anything new atm. Might make the final adjustments to my rocky_shore wallpaper I posted to the ML later today though.
[11:11] <mpathy> ah.. you are the one with the transparent png? its nice
[11:12] <kamstrup> yes I am. Thanks :-D
[11:12] <kamstrup> I think you're free to do what ever you like ...
[11:12] <kamstrup> We need work in every single area :-S
=== ..[topic/#ubuntu-artwork:kamstrup] : Artwork deadline is this thursday! Turn up your music and get to work!
[12:07] <mpathy> i know :( but i dont have really much time the next days.. thats too bad!
[12:18] <mpathy> but I'll try to do a transparent png of the default background! what do you think?
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[02:48] <mpathy> What is the most important task? Perhaps I have some free time @ work.. :)
[02:54] <derek[] > :)
[03:02] <mpathy> derek[] : now? is there some little work? ;)
[03:03] <derek[] > i wouldn't know mpathy 
[03:04] <derek[] > mpathy, http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2005-September/000260.html
[03:18] <kamstrup> I just finished my rocky_shore background and submitted it to art.ubuntu.com (waiting to be accepted).
[03:19] <kamstrup> Check it out: JPG: http://www.skim.dk/breezy/ogmore/ogmore-1600x1200.jpg
[03:19] <kamstrup> PNG: http://www.skim.dk/breezy/ogmore/ogmore-1600x1200.png (tansparent)
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[03:24] <mpathy> nice
[03:25] <mpathy> derek[] : i looked at the list but I didnt see where is the progress who works on what etc.
[03:26] <kamstrup> I especially like how the pngs look with a vertical gradient behind it...
[03:26] <derek[] > mpathy, ask kamstrup 
[03:27] <mpathy> kamstrup: I dont know who works on what!
[03:27] <kamstrup> derek[] , mpathy : Me sa kno' notin'
[03:28] <kamstrup> Seriously...
[03:28] <mpathy> hmm..
[03:28] <kamstrup> Right now we need the following:
[03:29] <mpathy> apropos read my mail? it seems that its only going to you but not to the mailing list, if I understand my mailer daemon right.. :)
[03:29] <kamstrup> Wallpaper for main inclusion targeting young audience (go for cool factor)
[03:29] <kamstrup> Six calendar images
[03:30] <kamstrup> Just because I've submitted proposals for childrens- and realistic wallpapers doesn't mean you can't try out in that also...
[03:30] <derek[] > kamstrup, "Me sa kno' notin" = ?
[03:31] <kamstrup> derek[] : ... = I know nothing :-D
[03:31] <derek[] > :D
[03:31] <derek[] > in which language?
[03:31] <kamstrup> sort of rastafari-gangsta
[03:32] <kamstrup> ;P
[03:33] <kamstrup> I suggested four categories for main wallpapers (children, teenage/cool, abstract, realism)
[03:34] <kamstrup> To me volvoguys swirl http://art.ubuntu.com/backgrounds/ubuntu/3 is the best "abstract"
[03:36] <kamstrup> I'm not sure I'm totally happy with my children's suggestion: http://art.ubuntu.com/backgrounds/ubuntu/44
[03:38] <kamstrup> I have an idea...
[03:39] <kamstrup> Are any of you (derek[] , mpathy) working on anything atm?
[03:39] <derek[] > yes
[03:39] <kamstrup> -- care to enlighten me ? :-P
[03:39] <derek[] > btw, that children one doesn't have the logo in full
[03:40] <derek[] > kamstrup, how?
[03:40] <mpathy> kam
[03:40] <mpathy> kamstrup: wouldnt it be enough to have at least one (the first) calendar image?
[03:40] <kamstrup> derek[] : True. I could add one, but I'm not sure that we'd wan't to go with it anyway...
[03:41] <kamstrup> mpathy: I don't think so.
[03:41] <derek[] > ok
[03:41] <derek[] > kamstrup, these artworks submitted can be edited ?
[03:41] <derek[] > by anybody?
[03:41] <kamstrup> mpathy: I don't think we have proven ourselves trustworthy enough (yet)
[03:41] <derek[] > and replace the original?
[03:42] <kamstrup> derek[] : ? You mean the ones on art.ubuntu.com?
[03:42] <mpathy> kamstrup: why? better than six poorly selected..
[03:42] <mpathy> ..i mean if we look at the deadline
[03:43] <kamstrup> mpathy: We only have the power to "suggest" a collection to Canonical. If they don't like it, they'll come up with their own
[03:43] <derek[] > yes
[03:43] <kamstrup> mpathy: or, if we don't make the deadline they'll hire a pro
[03:43] <kamstrup> mpathy: atleast, that's what i figure
[03:44] <kamstrup> derek[] : It's not possible to edit the submitted art (sadly), I'd just submit a "Child's Play 2"
[03:45] <mpathy> kamstrup: oh okay.. but we can write them some suggestions, beside suggesting some pictures. if they like our Ideas, they have ressources to get them done..
[03:45] <mpathy> kamstrup: for example, the idea with the transparent png's which is really good :)
[03:45] <kamstrup> mpathy: Yes, that is correct
[03:46] <kamstrup> thx
[03:46] <mpathy> kamstrup: who will suggest the things to canonical?
[03:47] <kamstrup> volvoguy (Aaron Waite) he's the ArtTeam coordinator
[03:47] <kamstrup> unfortuneatly he has run into some serious back-trouble
[03:51] <kamstrup> derek[] : What are you working on?
[03:51] <mpathy> kamstrup: and with resources I mean - if they like the elements idea for example, they can buy good stock photos.. perhaps, even if some idea is good, but it couldnt get the quality it couldnt have with better ressources, canonical at least take over the idea :)
[03:51] <derek[] > something
[03:51] <derek[] > a GUI
[03:51] <mpathy> kamstrup: did you get my mail a few hours ago?
[03:51] <kamstrup> oh, I thought it was something for the ArtTeam, sorry ;-P
[03:54] <kamstrup> mpathy: Yes. It's a good idea with the "real calendar" in the calendar images, except that we'd have problems with localization
[03:54] <mpathy> kamstrup: i think derek is at the office - like me - so he could only chat a bit without being fired ;)
[03:54] <derek[] > brb
[03:54] <kamstrup> mpathy: I'm at $HOME supposedly finishing my masters ;-P
[03:54] <mpathy> kamstrup: the first two letters of the weekdays is sth. everybody understands, dont you think?
[03:55] <kamstrup> mpathy: No... I don't :P
[03:55] <mpathy> kamstrup: surely we can make no hebrew, islamic, etc. calendar, but an international calendar everybody understands.
[03:56] <kamstrup> maybe...
[03:56] <mpathy> kamstrup: hmm.. at least 25% of all calendars i had ever, where international, and I did
[03:59] <kamstrup> btw: gnome-art is in the repos... You can install it from the app installer
[03:59] <kamstrup> search for gnome-art
[04:00] <mpathy> kamstrup: it would be sooo easy, if we could at another layer to the background.. but okay, you can have a calendar trough gDesklets, but it doesnt work properly in ubuntu :(
[04:01] <kamstrup> In an SVG you could have a cronjob script that changed the date
[04:02] <mpathy> kamstrup: oh, okay! it should be integrated as default in "drapper" it is very novice-friendly :)
[04:02] <derek[] > back
[04:02] <derek[] > sorry
[04:02] <kamstrup> cheers
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[04:03] <mpathy> kamstrup: really? that sounds great! we also could do a ubuntu circle who is around the current day - woah ;)
[04:04] <kamstrup> mpathy: Not likely to be accepted though, since it requires both scripts and a cronjob...
[04:04] <kamstrup> mpathy: a little to much for a wallpaper
[04:05] <mpathy> kamstrup: ..and as a package like "ubuntu-calendar-dynamic"...? ;)
[04:06] <derek[] > mpathy, i don't work in an office, but at home.
[04:06] <mpathy> derek[] : and I am in an office and with one hand on the "minimize" shortcut *gg*
[04:07] <derek[] > hehe
[04:07] <derek[] > and your work profile there is?
[04:08] <kamstrup> derek[] : He's a lead engineer on Windows Wista
[04:08] <kamstrup> ;-P
[04:09] <derek[] > lol
[04:12] <kamstrup> Elemental ideas so far:
[04:12] <kamstrup> Fire-Air:       The sun, sparks flying out of a bonfire
[04:12] <kamstrup> Fire-Earth:     Volcano
[04:12] <kamstrup> Air-Water:      Rain, a whale spraying water, A rainy day, a rainbow
[04:12] <kamstrup> Air-Earth:      A tree (crown in the air roots in the earth), a breeze over a savannah producing a dust swirl 
[04:12] <kamstrup> Fire-Water:     Coffee, fire/sparks reflecting in water?
[04:12] <kamstrup> Water-Earth:    A pool or lake, a spring, waterfall
[04:16] <kamstrup> ...
[04:16] <kamstrup> We might also consider making a splash screen.
[04:17] <derek[] > what's with combining fire, water, air and earth?
[04:17] <kamstrup> There are no Gnome splashes on art.ubuntu.com, nor am I aware of anyone working on one...
[04:18] <derek[] > i see
[04:20] <mpathy> kamstrup: hey not SUCH jokes :P
[04:20] <mpathy> derek[] : I'm a media designer.. mostly doing retouches or ad's
[04:21] <derek[] > i see
[04:21] <derek[] > on which platform?
[04:24] <mpathy> derek[] : like the most in this branche, we use Mac (OS X)
[04:25] <mpathy> like I do now.. with Colloquy as IRC Client, a great program, its sad that its not ported right now..
[04:26] <kamstrup> It just came to my mind...
[04:26] <derek[] > ok
[04:26] <kamstrup> I had a dream about X.org 7.0 this night... Scary :-S
[04:26] <derek[] > mpathy, and you must be working with Photoshop?
[04:31] <mpathy> derek[] : right.. apropos this is a very nice IRC: www.mpathy.de/files/irc_on_osx.pdf
[04:32] <mpathy> derek[] : there you see the program (icons) i am working with..
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[04:34] <derek[] > all Adobe and Macromedia products
[04:34] <mpathy> but i also have MacGimp and Inkscape!
[04:34] <derek[] > :)
[04:35] <mpathy> but, to be honest, Gimp is not bad, but this horrific user interface :(
[04:35] <kamstrup> Sorry, I gotta go. Nice talking to you guys!
[04:38] <mpathy> its very sad that they dont make a new GimpShop: http://plasticbugs.com/index.php?p=241
[04:41] <derek[] > a GimpShop?
[04:41] <mpathy> yes ;) look at the freshmeat hp :) http://freshmeat.net/projects/gimpshop/?branch_id=57360&release_id=192296
[04:42] <mpathy> great idea, but only one person working on it.. if I only would be better in programming..
[04:43] <derek[] > where did you train yourself in these programs? (photoshop and others)
[04:46] <mpathy> first yes, but then also at school (didnt know the right word.. sth. like "academy of arts")
[04:46] <mpathy> and now i worked few years with them..
[04:48] <derek[] > ok
[04:48] <derek[] > and your interest in Gimp after using Photoshop?
[04:49] <derek[] > i mean you don't like its layout etc. :)
[04:50] <mpathy> hmm? its free and it has most features of photoshop, but it lacks of a ergonomic user interface.. or what did you mean?
[04:51] <mpathy> and I need a programm which I can use at home without feeling guilty ;)
[04:51] <derek[] > I mean.. why would you bother about the free part when you already are working in Photoshop?
[04:51] <derek[] > ahh :) verstehe
[04:51] <mpathy> hehe :) woher kommst du eigentlich?
[04:51] <derek[] > India
[04:52] <derek[] > lerne deutsch
[04:52] <derek[] > parle un peu de francais
[04:52] <derek[] > i russkii tozhe
[04:52] <mpathy> *g*
[04:52] <mpathy> good :)
[04:53] <derek[] > =)
[04:53] <derek[] > that's a problem with the designers using open source tools.. if they look for a full-time job, they'll have to learn the commercial tools
[04:53] <derek[] > :/
[04:54] <derek[] > unless they've been as lucky as you to get the chance to study in an art school
[04:54] <derek[] > or they don't feel guilty at home about using something ... ;)
[04:55] <derek[] > btw, are you a regular here?
[04:56] <mpathy> not really study.. its more like an ordinary job.. more craft then unbridled creativity - but thats good :)
[04:57] <derek[] > you studied using photoshop and macromedia products in the "academy of arts", didn't you?
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[05:07] <derek[] > mpathy, 
[05:07] <derek[] > ?
[05:09] <derek[] > talk to you later
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