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FireCatI'm having poblems with a compile with Breezy on AMD64-SMP. It's complaining that Module.symvers is missing from linux-headers.01:45
crimsunyou've installed linux-headers-$(uname -r) ?01:46
FireCatYes 01:47
crimsunhmm01:47
crimsunI presume you mean you're trying to compile an external kernel module?01:47
FireCatI also deinstalled them and the kernel, and reapplied them in synaptic01:48
FireCatcrimsun: Yes, the Accelleration module for qemu01:48
crimsundid you install gcc-3.4-base and gcc-3.4?01:48
FireCatYes, even though it recommends gcc-3 I thought I'd give 3.4 a shot since I had already installed it01:49
crimsundid you override $(CC)?01:49
FireCatYes, I symlinked it in /usr/bin/gcc I think it was.01:50
FireCatIf there is a better way to do it than that I'm all ears01:50
crimsunif the acceleration module uses a Makefile with CC defined, then you need to override it there or as an environment variable prior to compilation of the module01:51
FireCatYep, how do you override it with an environment variable, I'd rather not be making symlinks01:52
crimsunCC=gcc-3.4 make01:52
crimsunetc.01:52
FireCatok, I just noticed something, let me try it again, looks like the path might be wrong01:53
crimsun-headers should contain that file01:54
crimsun(it does here)01:54
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calcBenC: wrt #7299 i'll try updating the laptop and see what happens02:11
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zulhey02:18
zulaie make the email stop!! :)02:19
zulBenC, i seen bug reports for 10834 as well, i dont have a fix for it yet02:29
crimsunspeaking of which, I'm working on 15031, will provide a dpatch soon02:31
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=== ..[topic/#ubuntu-kernel:BenC] : Ubuntu kernel development discussion ONLY | http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelTeam | The kernel is not in, please leave a message after the beep...OOPS, unable to handle kernel paging request | http://people.u.c/~lamont/Archives/kernel-team@ubuntu.com--2005/ playground: kernel-debian--mainline--2.6.12
jorgpanyone else getting unsolved symbols issue with 2.6.12-9 breezy kernel when trying to load madwifi driver?03:51
BenCwhat symbols?03:52
BenCis madwifi linux-restricted-modules?03:52
jorgpno03:53
BenCok, what symbols?03:53
jorgpI'll have to report it tomorrow I guess, left the laptop at work03:54
jorgpbut the netgear wg511t wireless card does not work in 2.6.12-903:54
jorgpworked fine with 2.6.10 in hoary, upgraded to breezy today03:55
jorgpsorry wish I could be more help BenC 03:55
BenCno problem03:56
mjg59madwifi is linux-restricted-modules03:56
mjg59It's non-free03:56
BenCthat's what I thought03:56
BenCjust file a bug on l-r-m03:56
jorgpok03:57
=== ..[topic/#ubuntu-kernel:BenC] : Ubuntu kernel development discussion ONLY | http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelTeam | The kernel is not in, please leave a message after the beep...OOPS, unable to handle kernel paging request | http://people.u.c/~lamont/Archives/kernel-team@ubuntu.com--2005/ playground: kernel-debian--mainline--2.6.12 (preX,19)
fabbioneBenC: kernel is up :)04:47
crimsunyep, I just booted into it04:47
fabbionecrimsun: sparc?04:47
crimsunoh, no. i386.04:47
fabbioneBenC: i saw you did open a .14 branch. it would be nice if you could publish your orig.tar.gz somewhere04:48
BenCfabbione: I haven't even really started it yet05:44
BenCfabbione: but I'll get the linux-source-2.6.14 under universe as soon as I do (that's the proper place, right?)05:45
BenCprobably put it on people.u.c before then05:45
fabbioneBenC: eheh ok05:45
fabbionei suggest to wait dapper before uploading05:46
fabbioneor use people05:46
fabbionebut yeah.. a new kernel would land in universe05:46
BenCyeah, I guess at first I'll just keep my own repo under people until it can go into dapper05:46
fabbioneso that gives us the freedom to slam it a bit05:46
fabbioneBenC: just one hint.. check the diff.gz of the old kerenl. there is a one liner that cannot go into debian/05:47
BenCyeah, I saw that05:47
fabbioneand it is sort of usefull to avoid trashing debian/ dir on cleanup :)05:47
BenCactually, what is the problem with our .orig.tar.gz having just the tarball in it?05:47
fabbioneit does i think...05:48
BenCno I mean, unpacking linux-source-2.6.1x would give you linux-source-2.6.x-2.6.x/linux-2.6.x.tar.bz205:48
fabbioneah no05:49
fabbionei mean i don't really mind that05:49
fabbioneit's just easier to apt-get source and have the code there readable05:49
fabbionebut it's your package :)05:50
BenCthe reason I ask is that once already I accidentally uploaded a kernel with a change in the .diff.gz to the main source05:50
fabbioneso if you want to go that direction i am not going to object05:50
BenCand twice I almost did (because I check now)05:50
fabbioneBenC: i think we could use a completely different approach05:50
fabbioneif we need to push our kernel to kernel.org05:51
fabbionewe can just kill dpatch to a certain extent05:51
fabbioneand just keep the tree patched05:51
fabbionethat something we need to discuss05:51
BenCthat's one thing I want to discuss at UBAZ05:51
BenCUBZ05:51
fabbioneotherwise we will have 2 trees to handle05:51
BenCI need to finish my kernel agenda for UBZ05:51
fabbioneyeah05:51
fabbioneBenC: remember to add all that stuff to the LinuxKernelRoadMap on the wiki05:52
fabbionebecause that'd be part of a spec05:52
fabbionebrb05:52
fabbioneahh coffee :)05:56
fabbionewe can also consider to switch RCS05:56
fabbioneif that's required to push our kernel to kernel.org05:57
fabbionewe need to be careful not to specs too much05:59
fabbionethat was a mistake at UDU05:59
BenCyeah, git is something I want to discuss06:02
fabbioneyeah06:03
desrtwhat's the story with sk98lin?06:48
desrtshould i suspect it of causing crashes?06:52
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BenCit shouldn't07:10
BenCthen again, it isn't well tested07:10
BenCwith ubuntu atleast07:10
desrtit looks like it's been getting a lot of changes lately07:28
desrtanyway... i use that driver and i was getting random lockups a kernel rev or two ago07:29
desrtjust looking for something to blame :)07:29
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zulbrb01:44
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zulholy lag batman01:45
zulhow is it going everyone?01:53
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jbailey_zul: I'm alive! I'm alert! I FEEL GREAT!03:04
fabbioneyo03:05
jbaileyHeya Favio03:05
jbaileys/v/b/03:06
jbaileymjg59: 9092 seems to not make sense, but since Colin reported it and confirmed it, I probably ought to not close it as UBD03:07
fabbione:)03:07
jbaileymjg59: Apparently processor.ko tells it that it should work very hard, very fast, and consqeuently, very hot.03:08
desrt<jbailey> i'm wide awake, it's morning03:10
mjg59jbailey: That's very odd03:10
mjg59jbailey: I'll see if I can take a look at Colin's03:11
jbaileyThanks.03:15
mjg59Ah. Except Colin doesn't have one now.03:15
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=== lamont commits a driver panic fix (hppa specific) for -19
jbaileylamont: I thought that the hppa patches were pulled from the parisc tree?08:59
jbaileyAren't we generally up to date with that?08:59
jbaileyWilly said before that he doesn't know git at all, so I suspect nothing new has gone upstream for a bit.09:00
mkrufkyyou dont need to know git to send stuff upstream09:02
mkrufkyakpm takes patches09:02
jbaileymkrufky: No idea. =)09:16
jbaileymkrufky: I'm just a cute little glibc hacker ;)09:16
lamontjbailey: the patch was from pacvs09:24
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mkrufkyjbailey: oops, sorry i was away ... i was trying to say.... for those that dont use git, but wish to send in patches, andrew morton takes normal patches via email... no need to learn git09:28
mkrufkyjbailey: I was only telling u for the sake of conversation ;-)09:28
jbailey=)09:47
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spayneit works!10:14
spaynethe ndiswrapper problem is solved!10:14
spayneyes!10:14
spaynejbailey: ping10:14
spayneBenC: ping10:15
jbaileyspayne: pong10:15
jbaileyEh?10:15
jbaileyWhat was it/10:15
spayneit works! the ndiswrapper problem is solved10:15
spaynethe 2.6.12-9 kernel solved it!10:15
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jbaileyReally?10:15
spayneyes!10:15
spayneyou are surprised as i am!10:15
spaynea fresh install today10:15
spaynei will do some more testing BEFORE closing the bug?10:16
jbaileyPlease. =)10:16
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BenC?10:23
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BenCyeah, 9.18 should have fixed ndiswrapper on amd6410:23
spaynehmm - this is getting weird10:24
spayneyou have try and believe me10:24
spayneit WORKS when it is plugged into my USB keyboard10:25
spaynebut not directly into my laptop10:25
spayneit works, gets a DHCPed address10:25
lamontBenC: pls ping me before you upload a new kernel - trying to fix a bug or 210:25
BenCwell, it's compiling correctly now, so any other bugs with ndiswrapper are going to be upstream :)10:25
BenClamont: sorry, but I'll be doing another by weeks end10:26
lamontBenC: no, that's good... I just want to have the chance to say "wait an hour" :)10:26
lamontassuming I'm that close when you get ready10:26
BenCso if you can get me patches by Friday, they'll get in10:26
BenCok :)10:26
lamontright10:26
lamontthat's today's and tomorrow's work10:26
spaynejbailey: i also discovered that there is a RT2500 driver for Ubuntu which is native10:27
spaynejbailey: i wonder if i should give this a go :)10:27
BenCspayne: if you have problems with ndiswrapper, would you be able to test v1.2 from upstream?10:27
spayneyes10:27
spayneyou mean from Debian?10:28
BenCeither way10:28
BenCI didn't know it was in Debian10:28
spaynewell, there is no 1.2 - they are now onto 1.4rc110:28
spayneand i can't get the tarballs for anything else10:28
dilingerthat's 1.3rc110:32
dilingerthat's in debian10:32
spaynewhat i am talking about10:33
spayneinstall from debain upstream10:33
spayneor ndiswrapper source?10:33
dilingerdid they actually release 1.3?10:34
dilingeror did they just skip right to 1.4rc1?10:34
spaynehttp://sourceforge.net/projects/ndiswrapper/10:35
spaynestable  1.4-rc1  September 27, 200510:35
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bagpuss_thecathave there been any changes to the rivafb options in the most recent 2.6.12 k7 kernels?10:52
spayneBenC: ??10:53
spayneBenC: 1.4rc1 is looking A LOT better11:05
spayneit works! properly, in the laptop, no fuss!11:07
spaynejbailey: ping11:07
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jbaileyspayne: Still here. =)11:10
spaynejbailey: it seems 1.4rc1 solves it completly, thanks to someone on #ndiswrapper11:10
spaynei compiled it and added the line to /etc/modules11:10
spayneeven NetworkManager works!11:10
jbaileyCool!11:10
jbaileyWhat do you need us to do?11:11
spaynewell11:11
BenC1.4rc1?11:11
spayneyes11:11
BenCspayne: can you try a release version, like 1.3?11:11
spayneBenC: it has gone from SF11:11
spayneYes, it defiantly works11:12
spayne100% A OK11:12
BenCspayne: send me a link to v1.4rc1 and I'll see what I can do11:12
spayneBenC: although, I normally run 'make deb' which failed but 'make' worked11:12
BenCbcollins@ubuntu.com11:12
BenCI'm off for lunch/dinner, but I'll check it out when I get back11:12
spayneBenC: if you want me to, i will do a complete format with a fresh install and start from scratch11:13
spaynejbailey: i am doing a fresh install with nothing on11:15
spaynejbailey: and see if it works with that11:15
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jbaileyMy mind is in the gutter, obviously.11:15
jbailey=)11:15
spayneno, i'd seriously do it for you guys11:15
mkrufkylol11:16
mkrufkyspayne: read between the lines, and laugh11:16
spaynemkrufky: as jbailey knows, i've been moaning about this for months11:16
mkrufkyyes, i saw u talk about this before11:16
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mkrufkyi usually stay quiet, but sometimes i just cant resist11:17
spaynejbailey: mmp_l is the guy on #ndiswrapper who got it working11:17
jbaileymmp_l: \o/11:17
mmp_ljust helped...11:17
spaynejbailey: but as he will say, there are some big changes going on which may cause problems11:17
mmp_land it was just a gues..11:17
jbaileyspayne: Keep in mind, that I'm still not the kernel guy. =)  All I've done so far is tell you that it's not your initramfs. =)11:18
spayne:-)11:18
spaynewe'd probally be better waiting until BenC gets back11:18
mmp_lfor more info you should ask at mailing list... . I don't have complete information and haven't beed at #ndiswrapper for quite loing time...11:18
mmp_l*long11:18
spaynebut basically, mmp_l was saying that there are some rewrites in 1.411:18
mmp_lyes11:18
spaynewhich may cause problems11:18
spayneif it goes into Breezy....11:19
jbaileyRight, if that's the case, it might be best to just not do it for now.11:19
spaynemmp_l: do you have any idea from lists when 1.4 might come11:19
jbaileySince we're about 2 weeks from release. =)11:19
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spaynejbailey: which is the ultimate deadline for this stuff?11:20
jbaileyspayne: About 6 weeks ago.11:20
spaynejbailey: (cough)kernel upload today(cough)11:20
jbaileyThe thing this trips is UpstreamVersionFreeze.11:20
jbaileyYou'll notice the kernel is still 2.6.12 =)11:20
mkrufkyi have a suggestion11:21
jbaileyhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseSchedule11:21
mkrufkymmp_l: is the fix due to a single patch?11:21
spaynemkrufky: shoot11:21
jbaileyspayne: Basically the first 3 months of the release cycle is us madly merging stuff, and then 3 months fixing what we broke in the process.11:21
jbailey=)11:21
mkrufkyi think BenC would be happier to include the single patch against the stable release, as opposed to the rc11:21
mkrufkybut i cannot speak for him11:22
mkrufkythis is just my opinion11:22
spaynemkrufky: this is where it gets interesting11:22
spaynemkrufky: look at http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=8321710&forum_id=3647111:22
jbaileyA single patch we can definetly do. =)11:22
mmp_lspayne: just looked into mailing list: 11:22
mmp_lIf no major issues are reported with 1.4-rc1, 1.4 will be released11:22
mmp_lsoon (within few days).11:22
jbaileyAlthough the last kernel upload is Sched for the 29th. =)11:22
spaynemkrufky: it looks like a majority has been rewritten for 1.4rc111:22
spayne"There won't be 1.3 release" - this helps a bit11:23
mkrufkyhmm... in that case, you should email BenC the info like he asked11:23
spaynemkrufky: other stuff like WPA2 looks interesting11:23
mkrufkybut i know it is easier to get a single patch in as opposed to an entire upgrade11:23
spaynemkrufky: it looks considerably more than a single patch11:23
mkrufkythats my point exactly11:24
mkrufkythey are in code freeze11:24
mkrufkythey are only trying to fix stuff now11:24
spaynebut are some issues (like mine) with the current version11:24
mkrufkyjbailey: am i correct?11:24
jbaileymkrufky: Yup11:25
jbaileymkrufky: And at this point it has to be provably low impact11:25
mkrufkyand THATS why i suggested to isolate the sinle patch that fixes your problem11:26
spaynejbailey, mkrufky: i have the supcious feeling that 1.1 isn't supported in the 2.6.12 kernel11:26
mkrufkybut it seems that might be difficult11:26
mkrufkyspayne: have you tried vanilla 2.6.12.6 ?11:26
spaynejbailey, mkrufky: "Support for new kernels added.11:27
spaynemkruky: i have been at this since 2.6.12.1!11:27
spaynemkrufky: what you could do is provide a deb will the latest 1.4 in IF it is needed11:28
mmp_lspayne: I'm going to send an email asking for where could one get version 1.2 ...11:28
spaynemkrufky: i just have the feeling once the majority start shifting to breezy, problems like mine will/may arise and there is nothing we can do11:28
spaynemmp_l: 1.2 does not work11:28
spaynemmp_l: i have test it in the past11:29
spaynemmp_l: nor did 1.3rc1 - 1.4rc1 is the FIRST released to solve this bug11:29
mkrufkyspayne: i'm not the guy to convince... i do v4l/dvb stuff11:29
spayne:-)11:29
mkrufkyalso, ndiswrapper doesnt live inside the kernel11:29
mkrufkyso, IMHO11:30
mkrufkyi agree with your idea about putting the .deb in the repos11:30
mkrufkyeven still, i dont have that power11:30
spaynesomething like ndiswrapper-1.4.deb11:30
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mkrufkyi think that if you can wait, 1.4 final will be released soon enough11:30
spaynethe standard ndiswrapper-utils could stay where whereas ndiswrpper-1.4 could install the deb and the module11:30
mkrufkyand they shouldnt have any problem adopting it11:30
spaynemkrufky: but the last kernel upload is the 29th11:31
jbaileyAssuming Ben chooses to do another one.  I don't know his plans.11:31
mkrufkyjbailey: you guys package ndiswrapper with your kernel???11:31
spaynegiri - the main developer has just come online11:31
jbaileymkrufky: I think so, yeah.11:32
mkrufkyinteresting.... but im sure it's being compiled as a module11:32
mkrufkymost of the distros have ndiswrapper in a separate package, if at all11:32
spayneSUSE has a single package11:33
spayneFedora has a module and a utils one11:33
=== dilinger would still like to know wtf happened to ndiswrapper-1.4
mkrufkyu mean 1.311:34
dilingerer, yea, 1.311:34
mkrufkymaybe they got bored and wanted to make people wonder11:34
jbaileyMaybe it got NEtscape 5'd? =)11:34
mkrufkyi do that sometimes with my version #'s here at work... people get excited when the version numbers skip, lol11:34
mkrufkyhahaha netscape 5'd !!!11:35
dilingeri hope it's not one of those "we're not releasing stable releases anymore, so they're all gonna be RCs" type of thing11:35
jbaileydilinger: Feh.  It's clearly worked well for glibc. =)11:35
jbailey*sigh*11:35
dilingerjbailey: exactly what i was thinking :/11:35
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mmp_lspayne: going off; good night; 2all: good luck with next release:-)11:37
spaynegiri is helping me mmp_l11:37
mmp_lspayne: I know and hope you'll find the solution of problem...11:38
lamontBenC: btw, there appear to be new questions in -9.19...11:46
spaynemkrufky: the ndiswrapper dev. person says that 1.4rc1 shouldn't be included as it is only out today and has no testing11:46
spaynemkrufky: so i'm grabbing 1.2 from CVS11:46
spayneit is tagged11:46
spayneso, i will grab 1.2 and see if that solves the problem11:47
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lamontBenC: 133a13411:58
lamont> CONFIG_ACPI_DEV=m11:58
mkrufkyspayne: sorry, i was away11:58
mkrufkyspayne: i thought you said you've already tried 1.2 and it didnt work11:58
spaynemkrufky: the plot deepens11:59
lamontBenC: but then, I plan to completely overhaul said options11:59
spaynemkrufky: right - the whole USB layer was rewritten between 1.2 and 1.4 which has greatly improved stability and compatibility11:59
spaynemkrufky: which means the whole thing works a lot better with the 2.6.12 kernel11:59
spaynemkrufky: BUT it was only released today so i think the best solution12:00
mkrufky...is to wait12:00
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spaynemkrufky: is to make a new 'ndiswrapper1.4' universe package which may be able to be updated to final12:00
spaynemkrufky: at least things gives the option of having a working system12:01
mkrufkyi wouldnt be against that12:01
mkrufkybut, once again, i remind you that i have NO power herte12:01
mkrufkys/herte/here12:01
=== spayne can wait another 40 min for BenC before he will be so tired me can't get up tomorrow
spayneit is 11:01pm here in the UK12:01
mkrufkylol12:01
mkrufkyspayne: did you email BenC like he asked12:02
mkrufkyi think you should do that... he'll get back to u12:02
spaynesent him two - the origianl with the link and second telling him what i told you12:02
spaynebut i'll wait anyway12:02
mkrufkyso, dont worry about it12:02
spayneworry! i have been waiting months for this. every single day having to faff on with my adaptor.  when i'm this close, i won't give up :)12:03
mkrufkyif you haven't noticed.... it doesnt matter how stable they say ubuntu is... there are always bugs to be fixed, and there are always new packages up on the repositories12:03

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