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| FireCat | I'm having poblems with a compile with Breezy on AMD64-SMP. It's complaining that Module.symvers is missing from linux-headers. | 01:45 |
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| crimsun | you've installed linux-headers-$(uname -r) ? | 01:46 |
| FireCat | Yes | 01:47 |
| crimsun | hmm | 01:47 |
| crimsun | I presume you mean you're trying to compile an external kernel module? | 01:47 |
| FireCat | I also deinstalled them and the kernel, and reapplied them in synaptic | 01:48 |
| FireCat | crimsun: Yes, the Accelleration module for qemu | 01:48 |
| crimsun | did you install gcc-3.4-base and gcc-3.4? | 01:48 |
| FireCat | Yes, even though it recommends gcc-3 I thought I'd give 3.4 a shot since I had already installed it | 01:49 |
| crimsun | did you override $(CC)? | 01:49 |
| FireCat | Yes, I symlinked it in /usr/bin/gcc I think it was. | 01:50 |
| FireCat | If there is a better way to do it than that I'm all ears | 01:50 |
| crimsun | if the acceleration module uses a Makefile with CC defined, then you need to override it there or as an environment variable prior to compilation of the module | 01:51 |
| FireCat | Yep, how do you override it with an environment variable, I'd rather not be making symlinks | 01:52 |
| crimsun | CC=gcc-3.4 make | 01:52 |
| crimsun | etc. | 01:52 |
| FireCat | ok, I just noticed something, let me try it again, looks like the path might be wrong | 01:53 |
| crimsun | -headers should contain that file | 01:54 |
| crimsun | (it does here) | 01:54 |
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| calc | BenC: wrt #7299 i'll try updating the laptop and see what happens | 02:11 |
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| zul | hey | 02:18 |
| zul | aie make the email stop!! :) | 02:19 |
| zul | BenC, i seen bug reports for 10834 as well, i dont have a fix for it yet | 02:29 |
| crimsun | speaking of which, I'm working on 15031, will provide a dpatch soon | 02:31 |
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| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-kernel:BenC] : Ubuntu kernel development discussion ONLY | http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelTeam | The kernel is not in, please leave a message after the beep...OOPS, unable to handle kernel paging request | http://people.u.c/~lamont/Archives/kernel-team@ubuntu.com--2005/ playground: kernel-debian--mainline--2.6.12 | ||
| jorgp | anyone else getting unsolved symbols issue with 2.6.12-9 breezy kernel when trying to load madwifi driver? | 03:51 |
| BenC | what symbols? | 03:52 |
| BenC | is madwifi linux-restricted-modules? | 03:52 |
| jorgp | no | 03:53 |
| BenC | ok, what symbols? | 03:53 |
| jorgp | I'll have to report it tomorrow I guess, left the laptop at work | 03:54 |
| jorgp | but the netgear wg511t wireless card does not work in 2.6.12-9 | 03:54 |
| jorgp | worked fine with 2.6.10 in hoary, upgraded to breezy today | 03:55 |
| jorgp | sorry wish I could be more help BenC | 03:55 |
| BenC | no problem | 03:56 |
| mjg59 | madwifi is linux-restricted-modules | 03:56 |
| mjg59 | It's non-free | 03:56 |
| BenC | that's what I thought | 03:56 |
| BenC | just file a bug on l-r-m | 03:56 |
| jorgp | ok | 03:57 |
| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-kernel:BenC] : Ubuntu kernel development discussion ONLY | http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelTeam | The kernel is not in, please leave a message after the beep...OOPS, unable to handle kernel paging request | http://people.u.c/~lamont/Archives/kernel-team@ubuntu.com--2005/ playground: kernel-debian--mainline--2.6.12 (preX,19) | ||
| fabbione | BenC: kernel is up :) | 04:47 |
| crimsun | yep, I just booted into it | 04:47 |
| fabbione | crimsun: sparc? | 04:47 |
| crimsun | oh, no. i386. | 04:47 |
| fabbione | BenC: i saw you did open a .14 branch. it would be nice if you could publish your orig.tar.gz somewhere | 04:48 |
| BenC | fabbione: I haven't even really started it yet | 05:44 |
| BenC | fabbione: but I'll get the linux-source-2.6.14 under universe as soon as I do (that's the proper place, right?) | 05:45 |
| BenC | probably put it on people.u.c before then | 05:45 |
| fabbione | BenC: eheh ok | 05:45 |
| fabbione | i suggest to wait dapper before uploading | 05:46 |
| fabbione | or use people | 05:46 |
| fabbione | but yeah.. a new kernel would land in universe | 05:46 |
| BenC | yeah, I guess at first I'll just keep my own repo under people until it can go into dapper | 05:46 |
| fabbione | so that gives us the freedom to slam it a bit | 05:46 |
| fabbione | BenC: just one hint.. check the diff.gz of the old kerenl. there is a one liner that cannot go into debian/ | 05:47 |
| BenC | yeah, I saw that | 05:47 |
| fabbione | and it is sort of usefull to avoid trashing debian/ dir on cleanup :) | 05:47 |
| BenC | actually, what is the problem with our .orig.tar.gz having just the tarball in it? | 05:47 |
| fabbione | it does i think... | 05:48 |
| BenC | no I mean, unpacking linux-source-2.6.1x would give you linux-source-2.6.x-2.6.x/linux-2.6.x.tar.bz2 | 05:48 |
| fabbione | ah no | 05:49 |
| fabbione | i mean i don't really mind that | 05:49 |
| fabbione | it's just easier to apt-get source and have the code there readable | 05:49 |
| fabbione | but it's your package :) | 05:50 |
| BenC | the reason I ask is that once already I accidentally uploaded a kernel with a change in the .diff.gz to the main source | 05:50 |
| fabbione | so if you want to go that direction i am not going to object | 05:50 |
| BenC | and twice I almost did (because I check now) | 05:50 |
| fabbione | BenC: i think we could use a completely different approach | 05:50 |
| fabbione | if we need to push our kernel to kernel.org | 05:51 |
| fabbione | we can just kill dpatch to a certain extent | 05:51 |
| fabbione | and just keep the tree patched | 05:51 |
| fabbione | that something we need to discuss | 05:51 |
| BenC | that's one thing I want to discuss at UBAZ | 05:51 |
| BenC | UBZ | 05:51 |
| fabbione | otherwise we will have 2 trees to handle | 05:51 |
| BenC | I need to finish my kernel agenda for UBZ | 05:51 |
| fabbione | yeah | 05:51 |
| fabbione | BenC: remember to add all that stuff to the LinuxKernelRoadMap on the wiki | 05:52 |
| fabbione | because that'd be part of a spec | 05:52 |
| fabbione | brb | 05:52 |
| fabbione | ahh coffee :) | 05:56 |
| fabbione | we can also consider to switch RCS | 05:56 |
| fabbione | if that's required to push our kernel to kernel.org | 05:57 |
| fabbione | we need to be careful not to specs too much | 05:59 |
| fabbione | that was a mistake at UDU | 05:59 |
| BenC | yeah, git is something I want to discuss | 06:02 |
| fabbione | yeah | 06:03 |
| desrt | what's the story with sk98lin? | 06:48 |
| desrt | should i suspect it of causing crashes? | 06:52 |
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| BenC | it shouldn't | 07:10 |
| BenC | then again, it isn't well tested | 07:10 |
| BenC | with ubuntu atleast | 07:10 |
| desrt | it looks like it's been getting a lot of changes lately | 07:28 |
| desrt | anyway... i use that driver and i was getting random lockups a kernel rev or two ago | 07:29 |
| desrt | just looking for something to blame :) | 07:29 |
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| zul | brb | 01:44 |
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| zul | holy lag batman | 01:45 |
| zul | how is it going everyone? | 01:53 |
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| jbailey_ | zul: I'm alive! I'm alert! I FEEL GREAT! | 03:04 |
| fabbione | yo | 03:05 |
| jbailey | Heya Favio | 03:05 |
| jbailey | s/v/b/ | 03:06 |
| jbailey | mjg59: 9092 seems to not make sense, but since Colin reported it and confirmed it, I probably ought to not close it as UBD | 03:07 |
| fabbione | :) | 03:07 |
| jbailey | mjg59: Apparently processor.ko tells it that it should work very hard, very fast, and consqeuently, very hot. | 03:08 |
| desrt | <jbailey> i'm wide awake, it's morning | 03:10 |
| mjg59 | jbailey: That's very odd | 03:10 |
| mjg59 | jbailey: I'll see if I can take a look at Colin's | 03:11 |
| jbailey | Thanks. | 03:15 |
| mjg59 | Ah. Except Colin doesn't have one now. | 03:15 |
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| jbailey | lamont: I thought that the hppa patches were pulled from the parisc tree? | 08:59 |
| jbailey | Aren't we generally up to date with that? | 08:59 |
| jbailey | Willy said before that he doesn't know git at all, so I suspect nothing new has gone upstream for a bit. | 09:00 |
| mkrufky | you dont need to know git to send stuff upstream | 09:02 |
| mkrufky | akpm takes patches | 09:02 |
| jbailey | mkrufky: No idea. =) | 09:16 |
| jbailey | mkrufky: I'm just a cute little glibc hacker ;) | 09:16 |
| lamont | jbailey: the patch was from pacvs | 09:24 |
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| mkrufky | jbailey: oops, sorry i was away ... i was trying to say.... for those that dont use git, but wish to send in patches, andrew morton takes normal patches via email... no need to learn git | 09:28 |
| mkrufky | jbailey: I was only telling u for the sake of conversation ;-) | 09:28 |
| jbailey | =) | 09:47 |
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| spayne | it works! | 10:14 |
| spayne | the ndiswrapper problem is solved! | 10:14 |
| spayne | yes! | 10:14 |
| spayne | jbailey: ping | 10:14 |
| spayne | BenC: ping | 10:15 |
| jbailey | spayne: pong | 10:15 |
| jbailey | Eh? | 10:15 |
| jbailey | What was it/ | 10:15 |
| spayne | it works! the ndiswrapper problem is solved | 10:15 |
| spayne | the 2.6.12-9 kernel solved it! | 10:15 |
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| jbailey | Really? | 10:15 |
| spayne | yes! | 10:15 |
| spayne | you are surprised as i am! | 10:15 |
| spayne | a fresh install today | 10:15 |
| spayne | i will do some more testing BEFORE closing the bug? | 10:16 |
| jbailey | Please. =) | 10:16 |
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| BenC | ? | 10:23 |
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| BenC | yeah, 9.18 should have fixed ndiswrapper on amd64 | 10:23 |
| spayne | hmm - this is getting weird | 10:24 |
| spayne | you have try and believe me | 10:24 |
| spayne | it WORKS when it is plugged into my USB keyboard | 10:25 |
| spayne | but not directly into my laptop | 10:25 |
| spayne | it works, gets a DHCPed address | 10:25 |
| lamont | BenC: pls ping me before you upload a new kernel - trying to fix a bug or 2 | 10:25 |
| BenC | well, it's compiling correctly now, so any other bugs with ndiswrapper are going to be upstream :) | 10:25 |
| BenC | lamont: sorry, but I'll be doing another by weeks end | 10:26 |
| lamont | BenC: no, that's good... I just want to have the chance to say "wait an hour" :) | 10:26 |
| lamont | assuming I'm that close when you get ready | 10:26 |
| BenC | so if you can get me patches by Friday, they'll get in | 10:26 |
| BenC | ok :) | 10:26 |
| lamont | right | 10:26 |
| lamont | that's today's and tomorrow's work | 10:26 |
| spayne | jbailey: i also discovered that there is a RT2500 driver for Ubuntu which is native | 10:27 |
| spayne | jbailey: i wonder if i should give this a go :) | 10:27 |
| BenC | spayne: if you have problems with ndiswrapper, would you be able to test v1.2 from upstream? | 10:27 |
| spayne | yes | 10:27 |
| spayne | you mean from Debian? | 10:28 |
| BenC | either way | 10:28 |
| BenC | I didn't know it was in Debian | 10:28 |
| spayne | well, there is no 1.2 - they are now onto 1.4rc1 | 10:28 |
| spayne | and i can't get the tarballs for anything else | 10:28 |
| dilinger | that's 1.3rc1 | 10:32 |
| dilinger | that's in debian | 10:32 |
| spayne | what i am talking about | 10:33 |
| spayne | install from debain upstream | 10:33 |
| spayne | or ndiswrapper source? | 10:33 |
| dilinger | did they actually release 1.3? | 10:34 |
| dilinger | or did they just skip right to 1.4rc1? | 10:34 |
| spayne | http://sourceforge.net/projects/ndiswrapper/ | 10:35 |
| spayne | stable 1.4-rc1 September 27, 2005 | 10:35 |
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| bagpuss_thecat | have there been any changes to the rivafb options in the most recent 2.6.12 k7 kernels? | 10:52 |
| spayne | BenC: ?? | 10:53 |
| spayne | BenC: 1.4rc1 is looking A LOT better | 11:05 |
| spayne | it works! properly, in the laptop, no fuss! | 11:07 |
| spayne | jbailey: ping | 11:07 |
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| jbailey | spayne: Still here. =) | 11:10 |
| spayne | jbailey: it seems 1.4rc1 solves it completly, thanks to someone on #ndiswrapper | 11:10 |
| spayne | i compiled it and added the line to /etc/modules | 11:10 |
| spayne | even NetworkManager works! | 11:10 |
| jbailey | Cool! | 11:10 |
| jbailey | What do you need us to do? | 11:11 |
| spayne | well | 11:11 |
| BenC | 1.4rc1? | 11:11 |
| spayne | yes | 11:11 |
| BenC | spayne: can you try a release version, like 1.3? | 11:11 |
| spayne | BenC: it has gone from SF | 11:11 |
| spayne | Yes, it defiantly works | 11:12 |
| spayne | 100% A OK | 11:12 |
| BenC | spayne: send me a link to v1.4rc1 and I'll see what I can do | 11:12 |
| spayne | BenC: although, I normally run 'make deb' which failed but 'make' worked | 11:12 |
| BenC | bcollins@ubuntu.com | 11:12 |
| BenC | I'm off for lunch/dinner, but I'll check it out when I get back | 11:12 |
| spayne | BenC: if you want me to, i will do a complete format with a fresh install and start from scratch | 11:13 |
| spayne | jbailey: i am doing a fresh install with nothing on | 11:15 |
| spayne | jbailey: and see if it works with that | 11:15 |
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| jbailey | My mind is in the gutter, obviously. | 11:15 |
| jbailey | =) | 11:15 |
| spayne | no, i'd seriously do it for you guys | 11:15 |
| mkrufky | lol | 11:16 |
| mkrufky | spayne: read between the lines, and laugh | 11:16 |
| spayne | mkrufky: as jbailey knows, i've been moaning about this for months | 11:16 |
| mkrufky | yes, i saw u talk about this before | 11:16 |
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| mkrufky | i usually stay quiet, but sometimes i just cant resist | 11:17 |
| spayne | jbailey: mmp_l is the guy on #ndiswrapper who got it working | 11:17 |
| jbailey | mmp_l: \o/ | 11:17 |
| mmp_l | just helped... | 11:17 |
| spayne | jbailey: but as he will say, there are some big changes going on which may cause problems | 11:17 |
| mmp_l | and it was just a gues.. | 11:17 |
| jbailey | spayne: Keep in mind, that I'm still not the kernel guy. =) All I've done so far is tell you that it's not your initramfs. =) | 11:18 |
| spayne | :-) | 11:18 |
| spayne | we'd probally be better waiting until BenC gets back | 11:18 |
| mmp_l | for more info you should ask at mailing list... . I don't have complete information and haven't beed at #ndiswrapper for quite loing time... | 11:18 |
| mmp_l | *long | 11:18 |
| spayne | but basically, mmp_l was saying that there are some rewrites in 1.4 | 11:18 |
| mmp_l | yes | 11:18 |
| spayne | which may cause problems | 11:18 |
| spayne | if it goes into Breezy.... | 11:19 |
| jbailey | Right, if that's the case, it might be best to just not do it for now. | 11:19 |
| spayne | mmp_l: do you have any idea from lists when 1.4 might come | 11:19 |
| jbailey | Since we're about 2 weeks from release. =) | 11:19 |
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| spayne | jbailey: which is the ultimate deadline for this stuff? | 11:20 |
| jbailey | spayne: About 6 weeks ago. | 11:20 |
| spayne | jbailey: (cough)kernel upload today(cough) | 11:20 |
| jbailey | The thing this trips is UpstreamVersionFreeze. | 11:20 |
| jbailey | You'll notice the kernel is still 2.6.12 =) | 11:20 |
| mkrufky | i have a suggestion | 11:21 |
| jbailey | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseSchedule | 11:21 |
| mkrufky | mmp_l: is the fix due to a single patch? | 11:21 |
| spayne | mkrufky: shoot | 11:21 |
| jbailey | spayne: Basically the first 3 months of the release cycle is us madly merging stuff, and then 3 months fixing what we broke in the process. | 11:21 |
| jbailey | =) | 11:21 |
| mkrufky | i think BenC would be happier to include the single patch against the stable release, as opposed to the rc | 11:21 |
| mkrufky | but i cannot speak for him | 11:22 |
| mkrufky | this is just my opinion | 11:22 |
| spayne | mkrufky: this is where it gets interesting | 11:22 |
| spayne | mkrufky: look at http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=8321710&forum_id=36471 | 11:22 |
| jbailey | A single patch we can definetly do. =) | 11:22 |
| mmp_l | spayne: just looked into mailing list: | 11:22 |
| mmp_l | If no major issues are reported with 1.4-rc1, 1.4 will be released | 11:22 |
| mmp_l | soon (within few days). | 11:22 |
| jbailey | Although the last kernel upload is Sched for the 29th. =) | 11:22 |
| spayne | mkrufky: it looks like a majority has been rewritten for 1.4rc1 | 11:22 |
| spayne | "There won't be 1.3 release" - this helps a bit | 11:23 |
| mkrufky | hmm... in that case, you should email BenC the info like he asked | 11:23 |
| spayne | mkrufky: other stuff like WPA2 looks interesting | 11:23 |
| mkrufky | but i know it is easier to get a single patch in as opposed to an entire upgrade | 11:23 |
| spayne | mkrufky: it looks considerably more than a single patch | 11:23 |
| mkrufky | thats my point exactly | 11:24 |
| mkrufky | they are in code freeze | 11:24 |
| mkrufky | they are only trying to fix stuff now | 11:24 |
| spayne | but are some issues (like mine) with the current version | 11:24 |
| mkrufky | jbailey: am i correct? | 11:24 |
| jbailey | mkrufky: Yup | 11:25 |
| jbailey | mkrufky: And at this point it has to be provably low impact | 11:25 |
| mkrufky | and THATS why i suggested to isolate the sinle patch that fixes your problem | 11:26 |
| spayne | jbailey, mkrufky: i have the supcious feeling that 1.1 isn't supported in the 2.6.12 kernel | 11:26 |
| mkrufky | but it seems that might be difficult | 11:26 |
| mkrufky | spayne: have you tried vanilla 2.6.12.6 ? | 11:26 |
| spayne | jbailey, mkrufky: "Support for new kernels added. | 11:27 |
| spayne | mkruky: i have been at this since 2.6.12.1! | 11:27 |
| spayne | mkrufky: what you could do is provide a deb will the latest 1.4 in IF it is needed | 11:28 |
| mmp_l | spayne: I'm going to send an email asking for where could one get version 1.2 ... | 11:28 |
| spayne | mkrufky: i just have the feeling once the majority start shifting to breezy, problems like mine will/may arise and there is nothing we can do | 11:28 |
| spayne | mmp_l: 1.2 does not work | 11:28 |
| spayne | mmp_l: i have test it in the past | 11:29 |
| spayne | mmp_l: nor did 1.3rc1 - 1.4rc1 is the FIRST released to solve this bug | 11:29 |
| mkrufky | spayne: i'm not the guy to convince... i do v4l/dvb stuff | 11:29 |
| spayne | :-) | 11:29 |
| mkrufky | also, ndiswrapper doesnt live inside the kernel | 11:29 |
| mkrufky | so, IMHO | 11:30 |
| mkrufky | i agree with your idea about putting the .deb in the repos | 11:30 |
| mkrufky | even still, i dont have that power | 11:30 |
| spayne | something like ndiswrapper-1.4.deb | 11:30 |
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| mkrufky | i think that if you can wait, 1.4 final will be released soon enough | 11:30 |
| spayne | the standard ndiswrapper-utils could stay where whereas ndiswrpper-1.4 could install the deb and the module | 11:30 |
| mkrufky | and they shouldnt have any problem adopting it | 11:30 |
| spayne | mkrufky: but the last kernel upload is the 29th | 11:31 |
| jbailey | Assuming Ben chooses to do another one. I don't know his plans. | 11:31 |
| mkrufky | jbailey: you guys package ndiswrapper with your kernel??? | 11:31 |
| spayne | giri - the main developer has just come online | 11:31 |
| jbailey | mkrufky: I think so, yeah. | 11:32 |
| mkrufky | interesting.... but im sure it's being compiled as a module | 11:32 |
| mkrufky | most of the distros have ndiswrapper in a separate package, if at all | 11:32 |
| spayne | SUSE has a single package | 11:33 |
| spayne | Fedora has a module and a utils one | 11:33 |
| === dilinger would still like to know wtf happened to ndiswrapper-1.4 | ||
| mkrufky | u mean 1.3 | 11:34 |
| dilinger | er, yea, 1.3 | 11:34 |
| mkrufky | maybe they got bored and wanted to make people wonder | 11:34 |
| jbailey | Maybe it got NEtscape 5'd? =) | 11:34 |
| mkrufky | i do that sometimes with my version #'s here at work... people get excited when the version numbers skip, lol | 11:34 |
| mkrufky | hahaha netscape 5'd !!! | 11:35 |
| dilinger | i hope it's not one of those "we're not releasing stable releases anymore, so they're all gonna be RCs" type of thing | 11:35 |
| jbailey | dilinger: Feh. It's clearly worked well for glibc. =) | 11:35 |
| jbailey | *sigh* | 11:35 |
| dilinger | jbailey: exactly what i was thinking :/ | 11:35 |
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| mmp_l | spayne: going off; good night; 2all: good luck with next release:-) | 11:37 |
| spayne | giri is helping me mmp_l | 11:37 |
| mmp_l | spayne: I know and hope you'll find the solution of problem... | 11:38 |
| lamont | BenC: btw, there appear to be new questions in -9.19... | 11:46 |
| spayne | mkrufky: the ndiswrapper dev. person says that 1.4rc1 shouldn't be included as it is only out today and has no testing | 11:46 |
| spayne | mkrufky: so i'm grabbing 1.2 from CVS | 11:46 |
| spayne | it is tagged | 11:46 |
| spayne | so, i will grab 1.2 and see if that solves the problem | 11:47 |
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| === spayne wonders when BenC will be back | ||
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| lamont | BenC: 133a134 | 11:58 |
| lamont | > CONFIG_ACPI_DEV=m | 11:58 |
| mkrufky | spayne: sorry, i was away | 11:58 |
| mkrufky | spayne: i thought you said you've already tried 1.2 and it didnt work | 11:58 |
| spayne | mkrufky: the plot deepens | 11:59 |
| lamont | BenC: but then, I plan to completely overhaul said options | 11:59 |
| spayne | mkrufky: right - the whole USB layer was rewritten between 1.2 and 1.4 which has greatly improved stability and compatibility | 11:59 |
| spayne | mkrufky: which means the whole thing works a lot better with the 2.6.12 kernel | 11:59 |
| spayne | mkrufky: BUT it was only released today so i think the best solution | 12:00 |
| mkrufky | ...is to wait | 12:00 |
| === mkrufky is sorry | ||
| spayne | mkrufky: is to make a new 'ndiswrapper1.4' universe package which may be able to be updated to final | 12:00 |
| spayne | mkrufky: at least things gives the option of having a working system | 12:01 |
| mkrufky | i wouldnt be against that | 12:01 |
| mkrufky | but, once again, i remind you that i have NO power herte | 12:01 |
| mkrufky | s/herte/here | 12:01 |
| === spayne can wait another 40 min for BenC before he will be so tired me can't get up tomorrow | ||
| spayne | it is 11:01pm here in the UK | 12:01 |
| mkrufky | lol | 12:01 |
| mkrufky | spayne: did you email BenC like he asked | 12:02 |
| mkrufky | i think you should do that... he'll get back to u | 12:02 |
| spayne | sent him two - the origianl with the link and second telling him what i told you | 12:02 |
| spayne | but i'll wait anyway | 12:02 |
| mkrufky | so, dont worry about it | 12:02 |
| spayne | worry! i have been waiting months for this. every single day having to faff on with my adaptor. when i'm this close, i won't give up :) | 12:03 |
| mkrufky | if you haven't noticed.... it doesnt matter how stable they say ubuntu is... there are always bugs to be fixed, and there are always new packages up on the repositories | 12:03 |
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