[12:04] ok [12:04] there's plenty of that in universe :) [12:05] :) [12:05] how about those apps that aren't part of the desktop, but are like f-spot, beagle, etc? [12:06] heh, the announcement produced a incredible long thread... [12:06] already? [12:06] i guess it'll grow a BIGBIGBIG list [12:06] ogra: goswin's law [12:06] unfortuantely not about the announcement :) [12:06] ogra: of course not [12:07] humans are silly :) [12:07] sometimes [12:07] godwins law... [12:07] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwins_Law :) [12:08] can someone ship me some spare time? === ogra looks.... [12:10] sorry... got none over here [12:12] :( [12:13] surely dholbach will have some to spare [12:13] of course [12:13] great [12:13] i'm just sitting around... bored, with too much time [12:14] that's a shame === ajmitch wants to spare a week or two to get selinux beaten into shape for UBZ [12:15] dholbach: can you please look at mosml? i splitted it now... so when you're ok with it i can upload :) [12:16] how long will you still be here? [12:16] dholbach: one hour maybe [12:16] ok === herzi [n=herzi@c205063.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:17] silly me, i forgot to upload my wx 2.6 fix to smooth upgrades from hoary [12:19] slomo: it's not up yet, is it? [12:19] nope... [12:20] maybe at 00:20 [12:20] i uploaded it 3 minutes ago... so maybe i just missed the cronjob [12:21] and i tested the package with this split and everything works... the stuff in /usr/lib seems to be all needed === blueyed [n=daniel@iD4CC06F6.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch sighs [12:27] dholbach: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=659 === ajmitch wonders if it's worth fixing zope-ldap [12:28] considering its last upstream release was in 2000 [12:28] and it's orphaned in debian === slomo [n=slomo@customer14.arcomf.wlan.tdcmobil.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:45] slomo: advocated, made a note to it [12:46] ajmitch: thats a good point, shouldn't there be a policy on how long universe will support non-developed packages?? especially if they never had a 1.0 release! === slomo [n=slomo@customer14.arcomf.wlan.tdcmobil.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:47] slomo: advocated, made a note to it [12:47] bmonty: this is one for me to discuss with the zope team :) [12:48] but it's something we have to talk about [12:48] maybe at the next MOTU meeting [12:48] or UBZ [12:48] dholbach: the dependencies are that way for other -dev and -doc packages too ;) [12:48] dholbach: uploaded [12:48] yeah, right now I just use the common sense test....how long has the package been unmaintained, and is it important, or is the functionality provided better by some other package [12:49] slomo: the versioned dependencies :) [12:49] but it's ok [12:49] dholbach: this mosml (= ${Source-Version}) ? [12:49] off topic question: is anyone using a "single sign-on" solution on their network (i.e. kerberos, NIS), I'm looking to implement one and I'm interested in hearing recommendations [12:50] yep [12:50] dholbach: that's afaik standard for such packages [12:50] slomo: and the -doc package depended on the -dev package? [12:51] dholbach: ok, so now we have perfect sml support ;) [12:51] dholbach: the doc package doesn't make sense without the dev package [12:51] bmonty: for zope, we have to consider if the packages work with the supported zope versions (2.7, 2.8) [12:51] slomo: i sometimes install doc packages just to be able to have a proper look at them [12:52] slomo: but that's your choice [12:52] dholbach: hmm... so maybe a recommend is better? [12:52] ajmitch: I agree with that...I'm not a zope expert, but what if ldap is something that nobody uses with zope, should universe continue to support it? [12:52] slomo: yeah, i think so [12:52] slomo: but it's OK the way it is [12:53] hm, next upload :) [12:53] slomo: -doc on the client when I'm configuring the server most often :-). [12:57] good night everybody [12:57] gn8 :) [12:58] good night everybody [12:58] night everybody [12:59] anybody around who works on php4 packages? [12:59] _the_ php4 packages or just some php4 packages? [01:00] _the_ [01:00] infinity [01:00] infinity doesnt want them [01:00] aiui [01:00] who would? ;-) [01:00] not me [01:00] i ported to php5 [01:00] hmm... he told me to not touch the php4 packages without asking him ;) [01:00] I just need it for mythweb [01:01] slomo: oh [01:01] phlaegel: it cant work with 5? [01:01] dunno, it depends on 4 [01:01] well... good night ;) [01:01] most stuff should depend on 4 | 5 now if we can [01:01] please submit debdiffs [01:14] ok, it seems to work on php5 [01:14] right === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-119-36.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === shadoi [n=shadoi@129.219.152.116] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:32] ok, how would I make a debdiff for this (I'm new to packaging, but would like to learn) [01:32] I've installed debdiff and wdiff and that works [01:33] but I'm not sure how the dependencies should work [01:33] <\sh> debdiff package_old.dsc package_new.dsc > [01:33] <\sh> but officially I'm sleeping [01:33] heh [01:34] <\sh> apt-file (2.0.7ubuntu5) breezy; urgency=low [01:34] <\sh> . [01:34] <\sh> The "Don't read eMail after you woke up" Fix [01:34] <\sh> * Fixed a spelling typo (see Malone #2502) [01:34] <\sh> eeks === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-119-36.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:40] \sh: impressive :) [01:40] <\sh> it is *eg* [01:46] <\sh> back to sleep...my nightmare doesn't come back I think [01:47] night, sh [02:12] once I've uploaded a package how can I remove it from revu? === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c2-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StoneTable [n=stone@c-24-14-85-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tritium [n=michael@pcp0011975002pcs.sandia01.nm.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dereks_ [n=dereks@cpe-66-108-11-235.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bddebian@pcp08717033pcs.phnixv01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:06] hello bddebian [03:06] Heya ajmitch === abarbaccia [n=abarbacc@69-162-20-65.stcgpa.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:09] hey is anybody here in control of the mythtv-themes package [03:09] Whats up with it [03:11] hi Lathiat [03:11] Lathiat: got avahi? [03:16] Lathiat, its not there! [03:16] its referenced but not there - one of those ya know - but its needed because i only have 2 of my themes now that i upgraded === tambaqui [n=patricia@200-208-62-73-mns.cpe.vivax.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-MOTU [03:21] :) === tritium [n=michael@pcp0011975002pcs.sandia01.nm.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [03:24] can someone create that package and upload it? === tvelocity [n=tony@ipa112.2.tellas.gr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:25] or if somenoe wants to tell me how to i would love to help out [03:27] abarbaccia: Does it exist in debian? [03:28] um, not sure - probably does [03:28] i mean, the package depends on nothing [03:28] it just moves folders into appropriate places [03:28] no changing files or anything [03:28] it just needs to be there to get the other 5 themes [03:29] You mean, the themes are there but they are in the wrong spot? [03:32] no [03:32] before the themes were all in the main package [03:32] they took them out to save space and made a theme package [03:32] which has the majority of them [03:32] in the main package it only has like 2 [03:32] the other 5 official ones are in this theme package [03:32] Lathiat: mdz' package probably has them [03:33] if I can recall the url for his packages :) [03:33] ok, google worked [03:33] i mean, it should be in the official repos right? [03:33] http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian/dists/unstable/mythtv/binary-all/ [03:33] NO [03:33] i hate that repo [03:33] looks like we can grab it [03:33] well, we can take that one package [03:33] abarbaccia: get over it :P [03:33] but he has stuff in there thats all wrong [03:34] he's the debian packager [03:34] well, you can tell him he compiled the transcode daemon without transcode on his system and i answer emails all the time from my site about "why isnt it working" [03:34] what do you think is wrong there? === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@pcp09354977pcs.jersyc01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:35] lets just grab the package - i like sticking to official ubuntu repos [03:35] just a lil pet peeve of mine [03:35] considering he's one of the main ubuntu developers.. [03:35] hahaha [03:36] i apprecaite his work a lot - its just funny [03:36] i knew that was the repo u were talking about [03:36] i run a site on getting mythtv running on ubuntu [03:37] and people ALWAYS email me about that - and in the site i tell them that's what's wrong and why to stick to the sources i outlined [03:37] but they dont listen === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@pcp09354977pcs.jersyc01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch notes that transcode is in multiverse for breezy - stuff that depends on it should be in there too [03:49] ajmitch: I thought you didn't do any of this stuff?? ;-P [03:49] bddebian: I don't [03:50] I just lurk on irc & be a nuisance [03:50] Heh [03:52] you didn't think I was actually useful, did you? [03:52] I don't think, I KNOW :-) [03:53] you know that I'm not? you'd be right there ;) [03:55] NO, I KNOW that you ARE! beeatch === Amaranth [n=travis@unaffiliated/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dooglus_ [n=dooglus@r2m7.chello.upc.cz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:51] anyone here? [04:52] Nope :-) === dooglus_ [n=dooglus@r2m7.chello.upc.cz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:54] I've got a debdiff on #2518, but check out the comment on the page where you can change the bug status [05:07] bddebian: can you check out the debdiff? [05:11] bmonty: Sure give me sec [05:11] thanks [05:12] bmonty: OK. [05:14] Oh, wait [05:14] You mean from siretart about uploading with another bugfix? [05:15] bddebian: yeah, but I can't find the other bug [05:16] Have you pinged him? Or checked the current changelog? :-) [05:16] siretart is marked away, but I can check the changelog [05:18] he did two uploads on 25 Sep to fix gcc 4.0 and python dependencies....I would guess he forgot about the desktop file [05:18] Aye, kinda looks that way :-) [05:25] I'll probably have another one in a couple minutes..... [05:26] bmonty: OK. I probably won't be able to upload until morning though [05:27] no problem...the other one will be #738, I'm testing the package with a desktop file right now === robitaille [n=robitail@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dooglus__ [n=dooglus@r2m7.chello.upc.cz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jtan325 [n=jtan325@c-24-22-163-23.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fred_ [n=fred@82-32-125-115.cable.ubr04.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:44] bddebian: #2518 and #738 have debdiffs ready for upload [05:50] night everyone [05:58] Gnight bmonty Good work [06:12] bood night === izaac [n=izaac@unaffiliated/izaac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === izaac [n=izaac@unaffiliated/izaac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === izaac [n=izaac@unaffiliated/izaac] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:57] <\sh> moins [07:58] morning \sh [07:58] more apt-file fixes to do? :) [07:59] <\sh> lol..no..just woke up.. [07:59] well the last comment was that you should use wget, not curl :) [07:59] <\sh> and got my first flash when I saw the new kernel and infinities fixes to libetpan which I don't understand [08:00] <\sh> ajmitch: which is now the default and it pulls in the right deps [08:00] ok good [08:03] <\sh> the last comment of the reporter was because of a spelling typo of "prefere" instead of the correct "prefer" [08:03] heh [08:03] <\sh> ok..I think it's time to have a shower now and leaving for office === ajmitch has just returned from office :) [08:04] <\sh> the magic of TZs in our world === robitaille [n=robitail@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:05] <\sh> cu a bit later from work :) === lifeless_ [n=robertc@dsl-93.19.240.220.rns02-kent-syd.dsl.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:35] uh.. [08:36] I wonder why my bug comment seems to be held for moderation now? [08:36] I guess malone has changed the from address now === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:05] morning === infinito [n=infinito@75.Red-80-59-227.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:09] morning siretart [09:13] hi siretart [09:13] hi folks! :) === slomo [n=slomo@customer14.arcomf.wlan.tdcmobil.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === markuman [n=markuman@p50927B07.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:32] <\sh> re === jbailey_ [n=jbailey@testhaus.cns.utoronto.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:32] wb \sh [09:32] backslashsh === Valandil [n=chrys@dsl-084-056-103-198.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:35] \sh: ready for another day of work^Wbreezy hacking? :) [09:36] ajmitch: where can I get a job like that? :) [09:36] Treenaks: ask \sh ;) [09:36] \sh: ^^ [09:39] <\sh> what? [09:39] <\sh> what's the request? === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns01-1605.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:41] hi [09:41] hi ivoks [09:41] \sh: a job that lets us work on ubuntu all day long :) [09:41] hi ivoks [09:41] <\sh> ajmitch: hehehe :) [09:41] so, everybody knows.. [09:41] <\sh> ajmitch: not all day long ;) as you saw yesterday :) [09:41] ivoks: we know? === ivoks is working on gdeb and gnome-apt [09:41] to use sudo, instead su [09:42] instead of su [09:42] argh... it's still morning :) [09:42] heh [09:42] <\sh> gnome-apt? gksu ? [09:42] yeah.. [09:42] <\sh> desktop file? [09:43] nope [09:43] C [09:43] <\sh> eeks...I have to call the tax department :( [09:43] it creates functions inside program [09:44] \sh: they want everything you own? === Tonio- [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:48] <\sh> ajmitch: sure ;) [09:48] well that's the purpose of tax departments ;) === jbailey [n=jbailey@testhaus.cns.utoronto.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:49] hm [09:49] someone saying they asked 'many times' in here for something to be synced, which hasn't been released yet? [09:49] yeah [09:49] :) [09:49] bad bad MOTU [09:49] :) [09:50] :P [09:50] argh [09:50] i can't do this :) [09:51] OT: does anyone have a clue how may ports BSD has [09:54] \sh: you are listed as having tested gcfilms? === dholbach [i=foobar@i577B172C.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:54] dholbach!! [09:54] hi! [09:55] <\sh> ajmitch: can be..I don't remeber ;) [09:55] \sh: you didn't ask for a sync of it? ;) [09:55] <\sh> ajmitch: no not that I know of... === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:55] \sh: I see it's been on that page for almost 2 months [09:56] no wonder he wrote to ubuntu-devel about it :) [09:56] <\sh> ajmitch: who? [09:56] infinito, I think [09:56] <\sh> ajmitch: wait [09:57] <\sh> gcfilms had issues when I would be synced from debian...I tested it and it failed to build...I told infinito about this [09:57] ah ok [09:57] <\sh> after that I didn't care about it anymore [09:57] heh [09:57] <\sh> well..u know my age and the other work [09:57] yes, we can't help the elderly ;) [09:57] <\sh> I have to make a mind-note to remind elmo to NEW libetpan3 [09:57] <\sh> which replaces libetpan1 [09:58] tomboy is quite good [09:58] <\sh> ajmitch: yeah using it..quite slow somehow [09:58] you just need a dual-core box :) [09:58] <\sh> ajmitch: oh yes...please send me one ;) [09:59] excuse me... you were talking about gcfilms [09:59] haha === ajmitch would like to get a dual-core box before sending one to \sh :) [09:59] infinito: we ewre [10:00] were, that is.. === ajmitch hits keyboard [10:00] <\sh> argl [10:00] i filled to MOTUToSync entry 'cause \sh told me problems we're solved with latest update (5.3) [10:00] but that was on july === zyga [n=zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === siretart just tries to build gcfilms in breezy [10:01] 5.2 was missing a build-dep on debian/control, it's fixed now (in fact in july) [10:01] <\sh> I told you it has problems... [10:01] <\sh> but did i told you the problems were fixed? oh man...I'm old and mentally sick ;) [10:02] \sh: yes, you told me to fill te MOTUToSync entry with ++ [10:02] morning :) [10:02] <\sh> infinito: sorry about it...I will put it on my list of syncs for today, ok? [10:02] \sh: thank you very much [10:02] it'd need resynced once 6.0 was out anyway :) [10:03] assuming that you get it released in the next week or so [10:03] <\sh> infinito: you are whitelisted? [10:03] \sh: whitelisted? umm, dont know... maybe not [10:04] infinito: can you please comment on http://tiber.tauware.de/ [10:04] <\sh> infinito: wiki.ubuntu.com/Uploads <- section about whitelisting yourself for breezy changes [10:04] infinito: can you please comment on http://tiber.tauware.de/~siretart/gcfilms.buildlog [10:05] hm, doesn't look good :) [10:05] <\sh> siretart: oergs === ajmitch gets the same in pbuilder here [10:05] siretart: btw I think LVM snapshots for the builds could be good :) [10:06] <\sh> infinito: and your realname I need [10:06] <\sh> I mean it's just postponed the sync [10:07] \sh: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdolfoGonzalez [10:07] ajmitch: sure, that was suggested on debian-devel I think, too ;) [10:07] siretart: sure [10:08] siretart: I saw people talking about it in #d-d today also [10:08] oh. :) [10:08] and I know the pbuilder author was considering support for it === \sh is frightend to join #d-d [10:08] <\sh> ;) [10:08] \sh: hah [10:09] <\sh> markuman: ping did u upload your key to the keyservers? [10:09] no CoC to maintain the peace there ;) [10:09] <\sh> ajmitch: well...I think some mainainers of debian don't like me [10:09] \sh: it's a quite busy channel. imo way more busy than #u-devel [10:10] \sh: quite probably [10:10] \sh: MOTUs do quick fixes :) [10:10] <\sh> well...anyways..brb cause of real life work :) [10:10] ok :) [10:12] siretart: the problem it's that we have a _ugly_ hack on install script to check permissions before installing [10:12] siretart: if you don't have permission to write on /tmp, the .png file wont get installed, so the build fails [10:12] i think [10:13] but i got a question, why it works on debian (sid and etch) and doesn't work on ubuntu? [10:15] i give up [10:15] infinito: sorry, but it doesn't work on sid for me either [10:15] what? [10:16] infinito: although my sid is a chroot setup === crimsun [n=crimsun@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:16] infinito: which could possibly be what is causing it (it would cause it to break on buildds as well) [10:17] ajmitch: maybe (just maybe) in buildds, user have no permission to write in /usr/share/pixmaps, which i think is the problem [10:17] infinito: umm [10:18] ?? [10:18] packages should *never* install stuff into /usr [10:18] when building [10:18] bad packaging, bad... :/ [10:18] the install script just checks for permission there, but doesn't install anything, i think [10:18] that's why makefiles respect DESTDIR & install there [10:19] copy 'share/gcfilms/icons/gcfilms_logo128.png', '/usr/share/pixmaps/gcfilms.png' [10:19] if (-w '/usr/share/pixmaps'); [10:19] our install script, not the debian packaging [10:19] yes [10:19] that's your install script [10:19] which the debian packaging uses [10:20] we just wanted a clean way to add the .desktop file for the application, if you have permissions, the .desktop file will be installed [10:21] but maybe we should remove that... [10:21] infinito: $(prefix) [10:21] you should use $(prefix)/share/pixmaps/ [10:21] if someone wants to install it in /opt [10:21] you can't put anything outside /opt [10:22] that's why building fails on every debian system [10:22] it would succeed if you built as root [10:22] yes :/ [10:22] this is why building as root is unsafe :) [10:23] but it wouldn't install where I want [10:23] a simple misplaced rm in a makefile could be very dangerous :) [10:23] i know [10:23] :> [10:23] infinito: debian allows binary uploads. in ubuntu, we only have sourceful uploads. and we cannot include/update your package if it does not build [10:24] gr.. [10:24] pida has transparent icon :/ [10:24] i just thought adding a .desktop file to /usr/share/applications was good to the final user, but i was wrong [10:25] infinito: this is gernerally a good idea, but better let this do the packaging scripts [10:26] siretart: i know, but our .tar.gz was downloaded more times that the pkgd versions, so we wanted people to have an easy way to access gcfilms when it was installed [10:26] infinito: this is not a problem. The packaging script can patch this call out and replace it with a 'safe' call/version === ajmitch thinks we should 'talk' to the debian packager ;) [10:28] siretart: anyway, i thought the debian packager had fixed those problems.... [10:28] <\sh> infinito: the right way to install your .desktop file or your png should be in your makefile like this: $(INSTALL) share/gcfilms/icons/gcfilms_logo128.png $(DESTDIR)$(PREFIX)/share/gcfilms/icons/gcfilms_logo128.png [10:28] infinito: no, there's a release-critical bug in debian about this as well [10:28] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=326229 [10:29] <\sh> $(INSTALL) share/applications/gcfilms.desktop $(DESTDIR)$(PREFIX)share/applications/gcfilms.desktop [10:29] \sh: it's a perl script, rather than make [10:29] <\sh> ajmitch: eeks [10:29] :D [10:30] <\sh> ajmitch: perl packages are honoring DESTDIR with MakeMaker or what the bloody module is named ;) [10:30] ummm, anyway, if you don't have permission to write at /usr/sshare/pixmaps, the script wont fail [10:30] <\sh> infinito: which is wrong... [10:31] <\sh> infinito: when I'm installing into another $(PREFIX) there is no /usr/ [10:31] <\sh> infinito: installing a package means, via root normally when "root" is installing it systemwide [10:31] <\sh> infinito: installing the package as user means: no systemwide, no root, no permissions for /usr/ [10:32] ok, what we do is, if you're allowed to write at /usr/share/applications, then the .desktop file goes there [10:32] <\sh> and this is no debian packaging bug..:) === jbailey [n=jbailey@testhaus.cns.utoronto.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:32] if not, the .desktop file goes to ~/.local/sahre/applications [10:32] <\sh> infinito: when you compile gnome or kde looking for .desktop files in /opt/bla/foo/desktopfiles ? [10:32] <\sh> infinito: how are you fulfilling this request [10:32] <\sh> ? [10:32] infinito: the install script really should honour prefix [10:33] yes, i see, i'm gonna change it and commit it to cvs [10:34] <\sh> ok...datacenter work...bbl [10:34] but the worst thing about debian's #326229 [10:35] is that packages says everything is ok :) [10:35] packager [10:35] yeah.. [10:36] i'll send him an email [10:36] :) [10:37] so.... what is the best way to fix it? [10:39] infinito: make your install script honor $DESTDIR [10:39] ummm, i think it fails not for the .desktop and .png installing... [10:39] it fails when checking permissions on $PREFIX [10:40] hah nice, zope upstream is using rosetta for translations :) [10:40] perhaps it is a confusing error message that the specified dir does not exist (yet)? [10:40] in this case a mkdir would help [10:40] perhaps calling install -D helps, too [10:41] we do this: [10:41] eval 'mkpath $dir' if (! -e $dir); [10:41] if (-w $dir && !$@) [10:42] and there build fails [10:42] not sure why... [10:42] strange === siretart no perl guru === infinito neither ;) [10:43] siretart, i have send you an email because revu, but the mail arrived at sebastian d. (slomo?)? [10:44] buildds try to install on /tmp/buildd/gcfilms-5.3/debian/gcfilms/usr, and it should have write perms there, so dont know what's happening === Seveas [n=seveas@dyn127.roaming.few.vu.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === koke [n=koke@169.Red-217-127-113.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:45] anyone wants to investigate if it's worth getting a new mergeant in? Malone 2383? [10:48] if it's a year old... [10:48] and builds/works ok... [10:48] dholbach: how many libs would it pull in? [10:48] ivoks: new package, not the one in debian [10:48] i think it want libgnomedb and libgda [10:48] which are in main [10:48] they're the right version? [10:48] so we'll have to have a look what is possible [10:49] there was an announce of 1.99 or something [10:49] 1.9.99 [10:49] mergeant 0.62 is latest [10:49] they'll hit 2.0 soon (the libs) [10:49] libgda / libgnomedb === ajmitch is fetching mergeant source now [10:49] dholbach: yes, but they're frozen in main :) [10:49] :) [10:50] PKG_CHECK_MODULES(MERGEANT, libgnomedb-2.0 >= 1.3.90 \ libgda-2.0 >= 1.3.90 \ [10:50] yeah, so we have to check [10:50] we have 1.2.1 [10:51] so you'd have to give a *great* reason for upgrading those :) [10:51] even though gnome has a general uvf exception, I think caution is good :) [10:51] absolutely [10:51] although the only rdepends in breezy is mergeant [10:52] hm? [10:52] then why is it in main? [10:52] libgda2-3 has far more rdepends [10:52] humm, I was checking the changelog and I've find a patch from me that I can't remember :) [10:52] yeah [10:53] hey koke [10:53] koke, nice to see you [10:53] :) [10:53] dholbach: including libgnome-cil, so if you break mono stuff you'll get the wrath of the mono team ;) [10:53] i see [10:53] :) [10:53] GDA BREAKAGE! :) === ajmitch sends tseng & slomo after dholbach [10:54] hm [10:54] meld: Depends: python (< 2.4) [10:55] eh? [10:55] old one doesn't work [10:55] new one depends on <2.4 :) [10:55] ivoks: new one being the one in sid? [10:55] yes [10:55] then of course it'll have that depend :) [10:56] :) [10:56] can we repackage it to depend on python2.3? [10:56] no [10:56] ok [10:56] we repackage it to depend on python (>= 2.4), python (<< 2.5) [10:56] once it is tested to work ok on 2.4 [10:57] ah, ok === herzi [n=herzi@c205063.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hirion [n=Hirion@p5487FB0C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:58] ivoks: no open bugs in gnome bugzilla about failure with 2.4, so it should be safe [10:58] ok === spacey [n=spacey@145.33.170.13] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:01] ok, this needs only sync from debian [11:01] hm.. [11:01] why? [11:01] but it has the same bug :/ [11:02] *** glibc detected *** free(): invalid pointer: 0xb798cd80 *** [11:02] lovely [11:03] hm......... [11:04] yay for upstream bugs [11:04] but this bug is easy to spot [11:04] just start new, open source and - crash [11:05] heh === terrex [n=terrex@84-122-83-29.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:08] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+sources/rhythmbox-applet/+bug/2564 - hm === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jbailey_ [n=jbailey@testhaus.cns.utoronto.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:13] siretart: so there's no way to get gcfilms on ubuntu right now, right? [11:14] infinito: currently it's not in the archive [11:16] ah... [11:16] infinito: sure it is [11:16] infinito: we need a fixed package, then we can upload [11:16]