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Sonny_Wertziksomeuser, it be more than just ctrl alt bkspace12:00
RMeistctrl alt f11 perhaps?12:00
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B_166-ER-Xkemik ,  still having the same error message :\12:01
Sonny_WertzikRMeist, is that a guess?12:01
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brunnaoi12:01
B_166-ER-XYour $HOME/.dmrc file has incorrect permissions and is being ignored. This prevents the default session and language from12:01
B_166-ER-Xbeing saved. File should be owned by user and have 644 permissions.12:01
mattlaceysomeuser: ctrl+alt+backspace will restart the x server12:01
RMeistSonny_Wertzik: I recall such a keyb combi with f11 or f11 and indeed bckspc12:01
someuseri got nothing to loos, so i give it a tray :)12:01
RMeistSonny_Wertzik: f1212:01
brunnaoi12:01
RMeistey brunna :)12:01
someuseroh i see, i'll tray.12:01
brunnatd bom?12:02
Sonny_Wertzikheh12:02
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snorksDay changed to 27 Sep 200512:02
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B_166-ER-Xhelp?12:02
RMeisthelp12:02
eyez_can I use winamp in Ubuntu? or there is another good media player program i can get12:02
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snorkseyez_: xmms looks like winamp12:03
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RMeistxmms is ok12:03
robertjeyez: xmms = winamp, rhythmbox = itunes12:03
eyez_snorks, where can i get it?12:03
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rambo3apt?12:03
Kovecsesapt-get install xmms12:03
snorkseyez_: apt-cache search xmms12:03
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snorkseyez_: and then get xmms and the plugins you see fit12:03
Kovecsesapt-get install xmms-skins   too12:03
robertjeyez: use synaptic pack manager from the system menu12:03
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snorkseyez_: most likely xmms-esd (or xmms-esound) something like that12:04
Kovecseshey guys im getting .......Mounting Local Filesystems......failed    at boot?12:04
mattlaceyeyez: amaroK is my fave, but you have to download a lot of kde stuff :P12:04
brunnaalgum fla portugues???12:04
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Nameless12i NEED some more help, i have edited my xorg.conf AGAIN and ubuntu loads, but the 15" lcd turns off and then turns back on as ubuntu loads, after it turns back on its stuck in clone mode. can someone help me this is sooo shitting me off i have my xorg.conf on paste bin at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/256612:05
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HAMM3RAny ideas on how i can get mbmon to be able to run by a non-root users. (no sudo either) ?12:05
kbfx|Nookie^is it legal to sell original ubuntu cd which you can recive on ubuntu:s homepage on a page similar to ebay___12:05
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snorkskbfx|Nookie^: kinda ruins the whole point. pls dont, and pls tell whoevery ou know to not do it12:06
DiskgrindSince Ubuntu is free of charge.. why try to sell it??12:06
snorkskbfx|Nookie^: about legal issues, i dont know12:06
chavoyes, it's legal12:06
spermitei screwed my computer up by typing the wrong command in. the command was rm -r /home/devin/usr/src.. is there a way i can fix this?????12:06
ompaulDiskgrind, how do you mean sell?12:06
dfeedHey everyone. I've screwed up my system and was wondering if anyone could help me get things working again... I've accidentally broken my /etc/fstab file. It mounts my root system as read only, so I can't change it back. What's the best way to sort this out?12:06
kbfx|Nookie^snorks: i saw it today on this page one sec... hee takes about 6 dollar for a cd12:06
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DiskgrindHe mentioned trying to sell it on ebay or soemthing,...12:06
kbfx|Nookie^http://www.tradera.com/search/imp.aspx?search=ubuntu&catid=&county=0&l_desc=12:06
azeemhi12:07
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snorkskbfx|Nookie^: if he spends those 6 dollars on porto, i wouldn't mind it a bit :)12:07
specialbuddydoes anyone know how to install superkaramba?12:07
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kbfx|Nookie^yeah but the porto is 1 dollar12:07
funkyHatdfeed, stick a live cd in, boot, mount the filesystem, and change it12:07
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ompaulDiskgrind, if you want disks of it you are entitled to pay for it12:07
snorksspermite: that sounds very bad12:07
rambo3if its gnome and ubuntu use gdesklets12:07
Seveasdfeed, sudo mount -o remount,rw /dev/your_root12:07
Diskgrindok12:07
funkyHathaha12:07
Diskgrindwhat ever.. floats his boat12:07
backslash83guys a stupid question, i always recompiled vanilla kernel, how do i apply ubuntu patches?12:07
funkyHator do that12:07
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rambo3instead of karamnba12:07
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specialbuddywell no one is in the kubuntu room so I want to use karamba12:08
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azeemThe automatic Shared Folder/SMB system seems to require a password from remote users, can I disable that somehow?12:08
whyameyeI have a DVD stuck in my drive. It won12:08
dfeedSeveas: That sounds good. I'll give it a try. Thanks.12:08
whyameye't mount and I can't get it to eject.12:08
P229kbfx|Nookie^: technically, no, unless you fail to supply the source code12:08
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snorksazeem: there hsould be something in smb.conf that defines that12:09
P229kbfx|Nookie^: but IANAL. furthermore, that would be a really scuzzy thing to do12:09
RMeistniice12:09
bettong_BOFHis there a bench mark test for computers that use ubuntu?12:09
brunnapor favor.....algum pode me explicar como eu vo pra um canal??12:09
ompaulspermite, if you really want to recover files in there you could look for the 'coroner toolkit'12:09
Nameless12i NEED some more help, i have edited my xorg.conf AGAIN and ubuntu loads, but the 15" lcd turns off and then turns back on as ubuntu loads, after it turns back on its stuck in clone mode. can someone help me this is sooo shitting me off i have my xorg.conf on paste bin at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/256612:09
KovecsesNameless12, what vid card do you have?12:10
azeemsnorks: hrm12:10
brunnaalgum fla portuguesss????12:10
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ompaulbettong_BOFH, we are the bench test and we say its better12:10
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TobaW: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.10/linux-image-2.6.10-5-386_2.6.10-34.6_i386.deb12:10
Toba  Error reading from server. Remote end closed connection [IP: 82.211.81.151 80] 12:10
jamey3does anyone here have experience with dansguardian??12:10
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bettong_BOFHlol12:10
Tobawtf is that?12:10
cevizogluGNeRaL: selam12:10
Tobado I have a dead repository?12:10
bettong_BOFHi mean for hardware12:10
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bettong_BOFHthat ubuntu runs12:10
snorksazeem: maybe public = yes, guest ok = yes12:10
thatguy!about w32codecs12:10
ubotuthatguy: I don't know, could you explain it?12:10
Nameless12Kovecses, i have a x800pro agp12:10
thatguywhas the trigger again?12:11
bettong_BOFHi KNOW ubuntu scores 1000% outta a possible score of 10012:11
FlyingSquirrel32whyameye: stick a paperclip in the small hole on the front.12:11
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Kovecsesdebian12:11
Kovecsesbaby12:11
Toba"!tell me about", th12:11
spermiteompaul well its a fresh install didnt have many files just want to be able to fix this where i can log back on to kde, right now its saying " could not read network connection list. //DCOPserver_debian_012:11
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Toba*thatguy12:11
jamey3does anyone here have experience with dansguardian??12:11
Nameless12Kovecses, if you check the xorg file at12:11
Nameless12deb  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2566 thats got ALL the info12:11
Toba!tell thatguy about w32codecs12:11
thatguyrad12:11
thatguythanks12:11
Tobanp12:11
whyameyeFlyingSquirrel32: so I won't damage the drive if it is still trying to read the DVD (and making a terrible grinding sound) while I force the eject?12:11
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ompaulspermite, how does this relate to your deleted files?12:12
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FlyingSquirrel32brunna: espanol?12:12
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spermiteompaul not sure, i guess it deleted everything12:12
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KovecsesNameless12, first of all..... you have two driver section12:13
FlyingSquirrel32whyameye: no garrenties, but if it's grinding, turn the computer off first.12:13
backslash83does the linux-sources package have ubuntu patches already applied?12:13
KovecsesNameless12, first of all..... you have two driver sections12:13
bettong_BOFHlol12:13
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Nameless12Kovecses, ?? i do, gimmie a sec to check that12:13
KovecsesNameless12, did you follow the instructions on ubuntu?12:13
ompaulspermite, if you did as you said I strongly suggest you reinstall and stay away from rm -r for a long time :)12:13
whyameyeFlyingSquirrel32: yeah maybe the best plan is to just turn the power switch off. I can't shut down because the mount process won't die, even with kill -9...12:13
Tobaompaul: lol12:13
Tobarm -r is not your friend12:13
KovecsesNameless12, you have driver "ati" driver "fglrx" right after one enother12:14
Nameless12Kovecses, wait a sec let me check this 1st, i followed a combination of various instructions12:14
bettong_BOFHsudo rm- r is12:14
FlyingSquirrel32whyameye: go for it...12:14
nxv_is there a special skype package for breezy? i downloaded the deb package but cant install: it says skype depends on libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3.2);12:14
Toba if you hate yourself and want to erase your hard drive, you can always do /exec rm -rf / in irssi or xchat :)12:14
Nameless12Kovecses, i got help to fix my video card off a guy here to do with fglrx, he fixed it. im not on 5.04 im on 5.10 preview and yeah12:14
bettong_BOFHlol12:14
KovecsesNameless12, fglrx is the way to go if you have an ati card12:14
ompaulToba, lets leave that alone before someone tries to do it and then comes in crying12:14
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bettong_BOFHhey does anyone know how to turn off v-sync in ubuntu?12:15
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bettong_BOFHuseing a nvidia card12:15
someuserwohooo i'm back & it's working :}  !!!!12:15
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Tobaompaul: heh, yeah but I said specifically that it was a bad thing to do12:15
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Sonny_Wertziksomeuser, cool!12:15
snorksi executed a command that was written in here in this channel, and now my system wont shut down. im using irssi12:15
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Nameless12Kovecses,     Driver                "ati"Driver "fglrx"  so  i change ati to fglrx and reboot?12:15
ompaulToba, that never stopped anyone before12:15
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eyez_When trying to configure my xmms i get an error configure:2398: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH any one can help what that means?12:15
spiral_shellhow do I restart ubuntu from the commandline?12:15
ompaulbettong_BOFH, no idea12:15
cozHello all12:15
bettong_BOFHdamn12:16
someuser:) now i get good refresh rate :}12:16
Tobaompaul: quite true!12:16
coz I am going to ask you  guys something about ubuntu breezy] 12:16
RMeistsomeuser: kill -1 l:P nooo:) reboot12:16
bettong_BOFHv-sync is slowing down my game12:16
Sonny_Wertziksomeuser, i gues the site i found ur monitor specs on was legit12:16
FlyingSquirrel32nxv_: did you try to download that package?12:16
coz I have been trying to get this OS to play dvd's with no results12:16
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KovecsesNameless12, no ..  it should just read...... Driver   "fglrx"12:16
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coz does nayone have suggestions/solutions?12:16
someuserit's good !12:16
KovecsesNameless12, you have two driver lines12:16
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Nameless12oops yeah fixed that12:16
ompaulspiral_shell, can you give more detail what you are trying to achieve12:16
someuser10q once agin :)12:16
FlyingSquirrel32search libqt3c102-mt in Google, take the first link and scroll down to "Download libqt3c102-mt"12:17
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Nameless12Kovecses, brb after reboot (if i have more probs)12:17
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spiral_shellompaul I am trying to restart the OS..12:17
someusercan i bother you with another quiestion :)12:17
FlyingSquirrel32nxv_  ^That was for you12:17
dfeedAwesome, that worked.12:17
Sonny_Wertziksomeuser,  u should be able to pick different resolutions in screen resolutions under system-preferences12:17
thoreauputicspiral_shell: you mean reboot?12:17
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Sonny_Wertziksomeuser, sure12:17
spiral_shellompaul it seems as though there is runaway process.. webserver is very slow12:18
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spiral_shellthoreauputic yes12:18
someuseryes, i can, but dont need to, coz it's selected 85Hz on tiself12:18
Ryougaanyone else having problems with the colony 5 livecd?12:18
eyez_When trying to configure my xmms i get an error configure:2398: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH any one can help what that means?12:18
thoreauputicspiral_shell: sudo shutdown -r now12:18
ompaulspiral_shell, sudo shutdown -r now12:18
RyougaI can't get X to load correctly anywhere12:18
thoreauputicompaul: :)12:18
Sonny_Wertziksomeuser, whats the other question?12:18
NiCKeLim new to linux (complete noob) and installed ubuntu in hope of gaining knowledge, i did the install it went good ran updates on the net and it went good rebooted and now my net is gone12:18
ompaultouche12:18
spiral_shellompaul does that restart or shutdown?12:18
ompaulrestarts12:18
arkaneseyez_: presumably, you don't have a C compiler installed, try installing GCC12:18
thoreauputicspiral_shell: restart12:18
NiCKeLi chekced th0 and it was not active so i actived it12:18
NiCKeLbut now my net still isnt up12:18
ompaulspiral_shell, sudo shutdown -h now << shutdown12:18
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NiCKeLhow do i get it to work?12:18
someuseri have add new lang' but don't know how to swich betwin them12:19
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spiral_shellompaul ok -r for restart -h for shutdown12:19
Sonny_Wertziksomeuser, what lang?12:19
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someuserhebrew :)12:19
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thoreauputicspiral_shell: yup12:19
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Sonny_Wertziksomeuser, hmmm....1 sec ok?12:19
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someusernp :)12:19
dfeedSo, I've just resized my Windows partition and created a new ext3 filesystem in the space that created. What do I need to add to fstab to load that filesystem so I can use it for stuff?12:19
Nameless12Kovecses, im back, well ubuntu still works fine. But its STILL not in dual monitors. 1 monitor is in clone mode :(12:20
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someusertake all the time you need12:20
NiCKeLhow do i renew my ip address?12:20
NiCKeLifconfig12:20
KovecsesNameless12, paste the xorg.conf again12:20
NiCKeLi know views it12:20
NiCKeLbut i dunno how to renew12:20
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ThePyromaniacanyone know why i have so many broken icons in my breezy installation? also, why do my toolbars always rest to their default locations.12:21
Nameless12Kovecses, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/256712:21
boxerboyits a lil late for me to ask this now but i couldnt boot to ubuntu after i guess touching something in mandriva was there a way i could have fixed that other than reinstalling?12:21
RMeistow whell12:22
Sonny_Wertziksomeuser, u there?12:22
FlyingSquirrel32NiCKeL: I'm checking...12:22
someuseryes12:22
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NiCKeLthanks FlyingSquirrel3212:22
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Sonny_Wertziksomeuser, do you need to switch the keyboard to hebrew?12:22
someuseryes..12:22
someuseris there a shortcut12:22
DiskgrindI would like help regarding installing a printer?12:22
KovecsesNameless12, both of your screens are pointing to the same place in xorg.conf   thats why it is cloned12:23
FlyingSquirrel32NiCKeL: I think the easiest way is: "ifdown eth0" and then "ifup eth0"12:23
Sonny_Wertziksomeuser, ok if you right click on the icon panel that slides in and out??? u know the 1 i mean?12:23
FlyingSquirrel32NiCKeL: Of course that assumes the interface is called eth0, but that's the norm.12:23
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Nameless12Kovecses, do you mean to the same device??? but its all on the same video card, x800 has 2 plugs in the back of it12:23
someuseri think i do12:24
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stianisnt the ubuntu kernel compiled for HIGHMEMORY?12:24
NiCKeLi dont understand it was working untill i rebooted12:24
someuserthe lower taskbar? where the trash bin is?12:24
KovecsesNameless12, yes i understand its on the same card......but the display listed in the device section is 2:0:0  ... so your card thinks there is only one monitor12:24
Sonny_Wertziksomeuser, heh or any what u would call the taskbar in windows...u know now?12:24
someuser:)12:24
someuserProperties?12:25
stianwhat is the name for the tcl package?12:25
Sonny_Wertziksomeuser, ya right click a blank area and select add panel12:25
Nameless12Kovecses, just a sec im gona look at someone elses config on a forum, (he has a radeon card too)12:25
Kovecses!find tcl12:25
someuserkeboard indicator?   :(12:25
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DiskgrindCan some one give me help about installing a printer?12:25
FlyingSquirrel32NiCKeL: Let me know how it goes.12:25
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someuserGOT IT ! :}12:25
Sonny_Wertziksome there is a keyboard selector in there ..it sets a little icon u can click back and fourth to english i think12:26
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Sonny_Wertziksomeuser, never tried it tho12:26
eyez_I want to get the newest grafik driver for my Gforce from nvidia home page. but i am not sure what version of linux i got (there are 3 of them to choice from on the site)12:26
someuserits working :}12:26
someuser   ?12:26
KovecsesNameless12, i think if you.... apt-get install fglrxcontrol you can set up dual screens with a nice gui12:26
Sonny_Wertziksomeuser, can u use it for what u want to do?12:26
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FlyingSquirrel32Diskgrind: I'm not too good, but since no one else is volunteering, I guess I'll try12:26
NiCKeLnah i cant get net working12:26
NiCKeLi dunno why12:26
someuserthis was hebrew, did you see it?12:26
NiCKeLit was working12:26
NiCKeLdamnit12:26
NiCKeL=/12:26
ompaulyes12:26
DiskgrindOk thanks12:27
ompaulsomeuser, yes12:27
Sonny_Wertziksomeuser, ya cool12:27
Nameless12Kovecses, i installed that but i got no shortcut12:27
someuser:)12:27
FlyingSquirrel32NiCKeL: are you using a static address or DHCP?12:27
DiskgrindI have an HPdeskjet 5550 and found no linux drivers on there site12:27
KovecsesNameless12, in the term type   fglrxconfig12:27
Sonny_Wertziksomeuser, ya im jewish too12:27
ompaulsomeuser, no idea what it was12:27
azeemnot here12:27
azeem00:22 < someuser> 1m!- Sp [n=sparrow@213.223.113.119]  has quit ["Leaving"] 12:27
azeem                   wants to remove winesetuptk...12:27
someusercool, i'm on a rol tuday L)12:27
KovecsesNameless12, new to linux?12:27
FlyingSquirrel32NiCKeL: at home or in the office?12:27
NiCKeLhome box12:27
someuserthat was "Hebrew"12:27
NiCKeLit was working until i rebooted so i dunno wats wrong12:27
jjazzDiskgrind:  Did you look up your printer on linuxprinting.org?12:27
Sonny_Wertzikbrb...my g-friend calling me12:27
Nameless12Kovecses, nameless1@ubuntu:/etc/X11$ fglrxcontrol12:27
Nameless12bash: fglrxcontrol: command not found12:27
RMeistwow12:28
DiskgrindI will try that right now.. ty12:28
DiskgrindI am very new to this. and want to learn12:28
Nameless12Kovecses,  i just double checked, fglrx-control IS installed12:28
KovecsesNameless12, sudo updatedb.............then locate fglrxconfig12:28
FlyingSquirrel32Diskgrind: Is it color?12:28
jjazzDiskgrind:  Well, linuxprinting.org is the place to start.  And the CUPS documentation.12:28
KovecsesNameless12, oh then type   fglrx-control12:28
FlyingSquirrel32NiCKeL: do other pc's on the net work?12:28
P229is there an easy way to change the sound scheme?12:28
KovecsesNameless12, thats the name of it12:28
NiCKeLyeah12:28
NiCKeLthis one12:29
NiCKeLright next to it running windows12:29
Nameless12Kovecses, still not working12:29
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Diskgrindyes12:29
Diskgrindty12:29
someuserdo you know of a way to change keboard layout with a shortcut?12:29
KovecsesNameless12, sudo updatedb   then locate fglrx-control12:29
someuserlike in win alt+shift or ctrl+shift?12:29
eyez_what Linux driver must i choise when want to download new driver for my Gforce card?12:30
eyez_there like 4-5 i can choice from12:30
Sonny_Wertzikok im back12:30
boxerboywb sonny12:30
NiCKeLthe ip ifconfig shows it 127.0.0.112:30
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Sonny_Wertzikty12:30
boxerboyyw12:30
NiCKeLits sposed to be a 192.168.*.*12:30
someusersonny12:30
marcellusOption "XkbOptions" "grp:alt_shift_toggle"12:30
FlyingSquirrel32Diskgrind: Go to the menu and click on System>Administration>Printing12:30
someuserdo you know of a way to change keboard layout with a shortcut?12:30
Sonny_Wertzikya?12:30
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Nameless12Kovecses, i got no exe equivilent for it, there is a fglrx-control, but its in a /usr/share/doc dir (and it wont run)12:31
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FlyingSquirrel32NiCKeL: Sorry, trying to help 2 a t a time... Is it DHCP?12:31
marcellus..although it doesn't work for me at the moment (or for the last month or so)12:31
KovecsesNameless12, then you dont have the package12:31
Sonny_Wertzikumm i thought that little icon does it....right click on it an choose propeties12:31
stianconfigure: error: Unable to find Tcl directory or Tcl package is not tcl-dev..... what can i do?12:31
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KovecsesNameless12, and linux has no exe files12:31
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someuseri'm there12:32
Nameless12Kovecses, i know that thats why i said equivilent12:32
Sonny_Wertziksee if you can find some way of doing it12:32
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FlyingSquirrel32Diskgrind:Click on New Printer12:32
KovecsesNameless12, ahh yes12:32
FlyingSquirrel32Diskgrind: is it USB?12:32
KovecsesNameless12, its not installed12:32
KovecsesNameless12, it cant be12:32
ompaulsomeuser, there is an applet called keyboard indicator pop that on your panel12:32
Demian___any else have problems with the firefox update?12:32
someuserlayout options?12:32
DiskgrindI missed the one before that ,, I signed out accedentally12:32
marcellussomeuser: Option "XkbOptions" "grp:alt_shift_toggle"     in your X config12:32
Diskgrindyes12:32
Demian___and ofcourse12:32
Demian___good morning12:32
Nameless12Kovecses, its ticked in synaptic, it could be a bug. im using 5.10 preview12:32
KovecsesNameless12, could be a bug12:32
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KovecsesNameless12, why not just use hoary?12:32
Jan_hihi all12:32
Sonny_Wertziksystem-preferences0keyboard12:32
FlyingSquirrel32NiCKeL: That's the loopback, ignore that... No eth0 ??12:32
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Jan_They cared about the bug I put in!12:32
Jan_Someone replied to it :)12:33
KovecsesNameless12, or better yet debian12:33
Sonny_Wertziksystem-preferences-keyboard12:33
Jan_It is now "assigned", whatever that means.12:33
someuseri do not have soch a panel there12:33
someusersach*12:33
Sonny_Wertziku must12:33
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Diskgrindflyingsquirrel can we chat?12:33
FlyingSquirrel32Diskgrind: It makes it easier for me to see your responses if you put my name in it. Thanks12:33
Nameless12Kovecses, becuase i wanted to get dual monitors working and i figured this would have "new" drivers and the hoary does not autoload my harddrive controler  hardrives on boot, altho i can still mount them after boot on 5.0412:33
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FlyingSquirrel32Diskgrind: Go to the menu and click on System>Administration>Printing12:33
someuserbut i do have, "use keboard LED to show alternative group.12:33
FlyingSquirrel32Diskgrind:Click on New Printer12:33
FlyingSquirrel32Diskgrind: is it USB?12:34
Diskgrindyes12:34
KovecsesNameless12, umm..... n00b12:34
someuseri tray to assgin it to capslock & other, but it dossent change layout12:34
DiskgrindIm sorry I missed the printer Icon the first look around...12:34
Sonny_Wertzikmain menu panel     system-preferences-keyboard12:34
NiCKeLokay when i do: ifconfig eth0 up i get SIOCCSFLAGS: permission denied -- if i do it as root it should work right? and whats the default root pass w/ ubuntu12:34
FlyingSquirrel32Where it says Printer Port: select USB Printer #112:34
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Nameless12Kovecses, yes, i am a noob to xorg.conf files, big deal12:35
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Sonny_Wertzikwhat version of ubuntu are u using? hoary?12:35
FlyingSquirrel32Diskgrind: Make sure Local Printer is selected above12:35
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FlyingSquirrel32Diskgrind: and next12:35
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KovecsesNameless12, being a noob isnt a bad thing at all...... but your going about things all wrong12:35
someuserme?12:35
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dooglusis there a program which can pop up a notice when I receive new gmail?12:35
Sonny_Wertziksomeuser, ya u12:35
DiskgrindFlyingSquirrel32  I have it .. and it works now..  wow   great!!!!!!12:35
Bad_Magic!apache212:35
ubotuBad_Magic: Are you smoking crack?12:35
dooglusie. google email notifications12:35
Bad_Magicyes12:35
Bad_Magic!apache12:35
ubotuwell, apache is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP or, for Ubuntu server information, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/installation-custom12:35
someuseri think 5.1012:35
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Sonny_Wertzikoh heh breezy12:36
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FlyingSquirrel32NiCKeL: The password is the same as the password that you created for your user12:36
DiskgrindI over looked some things.. I will be more carefull.12:36
scottthi. im able to heard sound when gdm loads, but System->prefs->sound shows no cards in the list, and sound doesnt work once im in the desktop. im using breezy. is there a fix?12:36
FlyingSquirrel32Diskgrind: Great!!12:36
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someuserwhats breezy?:}12:36
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KovecsesNameless12, what harddrive controller do you have?12:36
NiCKeLwats the default ubuntu root pass?12:36
Nameless12Kovecses, actually from what i have READ the kernel that comes with this version actually has support for "newer" hardware. Not to mention that the thing about my harddrives is true.....12:36
Diskgrinddoes that rock or what.... it was already ready to go  I just had to apply driver12:36
scottti have been through nearly every help guide i can find on this topic12:36
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Sonny_Wertzikits the new version of ubuntu12:36
luckyhey guys.  I'm trying to install Ubuntu to a SAta drive and i get a weird error where the Partitioner window just shows ???? ????12:36
dooglussomeuser: breezy is the next version of ubuntu, due out in october.12:36
FlyingSquirrel32NiCKeL: Try sudo ifconfig12:36
ompaul!tell NiCKeL about root12:36
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FlyingSquirrel32NiCKeL: Te same as for the user you created12:36
Nameless12Kovecses,  i tried to get help here for the harddrive controler thing and the guys gave up12:36
someuser5.10 is breezy ?12:37
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dooglusdoes anyone have a gmail notifier working in ubuntu?12:37
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KovecsesNameless12, you can use the same kernel in hoary12:37
dooglussomeuser: yes.12:37
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Nameless12Kovecses,  it loaded the drivers for the controler AFTER it had tried to load the harddrives12:37
someuseroh, ok :)12:37
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Bruninhaoi12:37
dooglus"breezy badger" to give it its full name12:37
Sonny_Wertziklook in one of the main menus for KEYBOARD  i found it and it look like u can set hotkeys12:37
Demian___I've got some issues with my firefox update12:37
DiskgrindFlyingSquirrel32.   how do I make your name come out red for you???12:37
Demian___I get an error12:37
Diskgrinddo I type it first.. or what..12:37
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Demian___and can't start firefox again12:37
SpaceBasshey folks... trying 5.4 for the first time... impressed but having problems with apt-get12:38
scottt!ff fix12:38
someuseri'm there12:38
ubotuff fix is, like, sudo dpkg --purge --force-depends firefox firefox-gnome-support ; sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox mozilla-firefox-gnome-support12:38
FlyingSquirrel32Diskgrind just by including it in the line like you did above. Are you using xchat?12:38
SpaceBassit tells me samba is the latest but I dont have winbind install12:38
scotttDemian___: also, killall firefox-bin12:38
someuserit's the same es before12:38
Diskgrindyes12:38
DiskgrindIm new to this .12:38
SpaceBassand cannot find krb5-usr...12:38
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Demian___thnx12:38
Sonny_Wertzikhmm i dont know then but 1 sec12:38
FlyingSquirrel32Diskgrind: This is with your name....12:38
FlyingSquirrel32And this is without.12:38
Nameless12Kovecses, seeing as you know so much about this, seeing as im such a noob then how about you just edit my xorg.conf and put it on "paste bin", it would be quicker than you telling me what type12:38
someuserdo you want me to send you  a screen capture of it?12:38
Diskgrindis it case sensitive?12:39
SpaceBassdoes all that mean I need to add debian or other repisitories?12:39
P229is there a way to change the sound scheme without individually changing each event?12:39
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Diskgrindflyingsquirrel32  is it case sensitive..12:39
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FlyingSquirrel32diskgrind: don't know how's this?12:39
P229installable sound themes, maybe?12:39
Diskgrindit is not...12:39
KovecsesNameless12, i have no idea how your hardware is set up....But i do know that you only have one display device set up12:39
FlyingSquirrel32Diskgrind: no.12:39
Diskgrindcool  thanks for the teaching...12:39
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bimberiSpaceBass: there's a krb5-user package in ubuntu's "universe" repository12:39
bimberiubotu tell spacebass about repositories12:40
Sonny_Wertziksomeuser, look at this link it probably in there     http://ubuntuguide.org/12:40
luckyso, should i look elsewhere?12:40
FlyingSquirrel32NiCKeL: I lost you... I've gotta go now...12:40
lucky:/12:40
KovecsesNameless12, why does it seem like your pissed at me? im only trying to help12:40
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SpaceBassbimberi, I'm used to an rpm based distro so new to apg-get in general... thanks for the tips12:40
Diskgrindflyingsquirrel32   I appreciate your help!!!112:40
someuserok, i will 10x12:40
henkis there a docker applet for gnome ? or do i just use kdocker?12:40
Sonny_Wertziksure12:40
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bimberiSpaceBass: np :) - did ubotu /msg you? - i think i stuffed that up12:40
FlyingSquirrel32Diskgrind: I was in your shoes a few months back ;)12:40
FlyingSquirrel32Bye all...12:40
SpaceBassbimberi,  yeah, got a msg... reading the howto now12:41
bimberiSpaceBass: k :)12:41
Nameless12Kovecses, i dont get pissed at you, treating you like a moron, yes. Calling people noobs for not setting up a xorg.conf file....... its not the kinda thing anyone gets on their 1st time. And if you meant noob for installing the preview release, i had good reason and yeah12:41
nxv_FlyingSquirrel32: i am not user if i get the same link as u from google first? would u mind giving me the direct link12:41
Sonny_Wertziki forgot why i came in here in the first place hehehehe12:41
Nameless12Kovecses, anyway. it doesnt matter, off to edit my xorg12:41
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marcellusNameless12: have you tried googling for something like "xorg dual head" maybe adding your card too12:41
KovecsesNameless12, fuck off12:42
SpaceBassbimberi, can I add standard debian repisitories or only ubuntu ones?12:42
scotttNameless12: are you using xinerama?12:42
bimberiSpaceBass: only ubuntu ones12:42
Nameless12Kovecses, "you asked for it" and i was trying to be nice about it, dont resort to swearing you moron12:42
thoreauputicKovecses: read the Code of COnduct please12:42
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SpaceBassgotcha... thanks...12:42
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SpaceBass2nd question: anyone using winbind with ubuntu?12:43
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thoreauputicNameless12: , Kovecses chill please12:43
Nameless12scottt, yeah i am check my config http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2567 but i think koves is right about why its not working (that being its only got 1 device)12:43
KovecsesNameless12, this is what i get for trying to help! and only if you LISTENED12:43
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Digo_RPguys12:43
Digo_RPlo all12:43
thoreauputicKovecses: last warning12:43
KovecsesNameless12, why come in here for help if you refuse to take advice12:43
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Nameless12Kovecses,  i never refused to take advice, altho you slowed me down as i was constantly replying to you12:43
cafuego_Digo_RP: bom dia12:44
Digo_RPplease, how do I put my ubuntu to start in text mode multiuser ???12:44
Digo_RPand not gui?12:44
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Digo_RPon other dist. we change the inittab to 312:44
cafuego_Digo_RP: You cna disable gdm. The easiest way is by installing and running 'rcconf'.12:44
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scotttNameless12: is that a multi head card?12:44
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KovecsesNameless12, try using a real distro not some girly ubuntu12:44
chavoDigo_RP, change it to 512:44
Digo_RPchage it to 5 ?12:45
Digo_RPhum...12:45
SpaceBassbimberi, thanks... that page from ubotu had exactly what I needed... first time using synaptic too... very nice12:45
Nameless12scottt, yes it is12:45
someuserOK, got it ! :) it's Ctrl+Alt+alt *-)12:45
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bimberiSpaceBass: you won't look back :)12:45
Digo_RPthe default on my ubuntu is -> id:2:initdefault:12:45
cafuego_Digo_RP: No, don't change it to 5. Run rcconf, disable gdm.12:45
cafuego_Digo_RP: Coz gdm will still start in runlevel 5.12:45
someusersonny you here12:45
Nameless12scottt, i think i know the proble, i need to make 2 devices with different identifiers i think12:46
chavodoesn't start for me in runlevel 512:46
scotttNameless12: thats what i was going to say =)12:46
SpaceBassbimberi,  well that remains to be seen... thinking of becoming a covert from windows xp.... tried REHL and Fedore off and on... not on to ubuntu and liking it so far12:46
bimberiDigo_RP: or the kludge-y way is "sudo rm /etc/rc*.d/S*gdm"12:46
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Nameless12scottt, the identifier can be anything right?12:46
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Digo_RPthen I can run startx ?12:46
cafuego_Digo_RP: yes.12:46
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ksmurfwell my wifi is back.....lol.  Breezy loses the internal card and finds it 3 reboots l8r...... Any way am I missing updates or are there just no as many going towards the full release?12:46
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Sonny_Wertziksomeuser, ok kool12:47
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Sonny_Wertziki was havin a smoke12:47
bimbericafuego_: i felt i was augmenting :)12:47
someuserone more *-) or i'm pushing my lock? :)12:47
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scotttNameless12: yes. make one for busid PCI:1:0:0 and antoher for PCI:1:0:1 iirc12:47
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eyez_I need to install an easy c compiler. what is a good choice for new user?12:47
cafuego_eyez_: There is only gcc.12:47
arkanesI'm having some trouble burning CDs, I get an error telling me to put a blank CD in the drive even though theres one in there, any ideas?12:47
someuserhmm.. me to12:47
Sonny_Wertziksomeuser, shoot12:48
hajikiis there something special i need to do to get kde apps to play sound when using gnome?12:48
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bimberiSpaceBass: good to hear, lots of learning (and maybe even fun) to be had12:48
thoreauputiceyez_: install build-essential12:48
someuserok, how can i save my current session settings for next boot?12:48
cafuego_hajiki: Run the kde control center and set the sound service to 'esd'.12:48
Nameless12scottt, can you check it for me http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/256812:48
Sonny_Wertzikwhen u log out it asks you with a check box at the top12:48
hajikicafuego, thanks12:48
SpaceBassanyone using Active directory for authentication? or kerberos?12:49
someuseron other live-cd's ther is en option that saves a small file, end then load's it aoutomaticly12:49
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scotttNameless12: looks good12:49
Bad_Magiccan anyone tell me how to change the default folder for apache2 to server to say ~/www instead of /var/www?12:49
Sonny_Wertziki dont know if it will work with a live cd12:49
someuseryah, will it save bookmarks & all ?12:49
Sonny_Wertzikdony know12:49
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Sonny_Wertzikdont know12:49
scotttanyone know why i would hear sounds when gdm loads, but not when the desktop shows? volume controls says no cards could be found...12:49
Nameless12scottt,  time to test :S this seems too good to be true, i bet it wont work lol. Thanx for the help12:49
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jjazzNameless12:  can your Radeon card to merged framebuffers?12:49
Sonny_Wertzikjust load it for real hehehehehehe12:49
someuseron other live-cd thre was  en save settings script12:49
Sonny_Wertzikits good12:49
jjazzNameless12:  s/to/do/12:50
refdoc100Hi, any idea how to get MOL 0.9.71 going on ubuntu breezy?12:50
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Jrwahi there12:50
Bad_Magic!apache12:50
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, apache is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP or, for Ubuntu server information, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/installation-custom12:50
Nameless12jjazz, i dont know what the frame buffer thing u are  refering to is12:50
cafuego_Bad_Magic: If you want it to be ~www for all users, load and config mod_userdir12:50
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Sonny_Wertziki never really messed with the live cd at all sorry12:50
Nameless12jjazz, and whats the s/to/do/ ?12:50
Digo_RPbye guys tnx a lot12:50
Digo_RPcya12:50
cafuego_Bad_Magic: If it's to be for just the one site, edit DocumentRoot in the default sites-available config.12:50
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someuserok, no problem i'll tray et the website.12:50
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Sonny_Wertzikkool12:51
JrwaI'm getting "fatal IO error 104" on my X. Is that a breezy issue, or should I worry about my config?12:51
jjazzNameless12:  Each screen gets a framebuffer.  There's two ways to use both screens.  One is to have two screen definitions.  The other is to merge the two screens into one frame buffer and treat them as one big screen.12:51
cafuego_Bad_Magic: The userdir means stuff like http://locahost/~user/ will work and point at ~/www12:51
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jjazzNameless12:  The advantage to that is easier setup (and some say speed).  The disadvantage is that both screens must operate at the same resolution.12:51
cafuego_the framebuffer is also much slower then non-fb X.12:52
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jjazzNameless12:  I have a Radeon card that has a merged framebuffer option.  I don't know if your model has it.  You might want to Google MergedFB with your radeon card's model.12:52
Nameless12jjazz, i got that working on fedora AGES AND AGES AGO on my old computer with a 9700pro, (diff vid card). i didnt like it tho, it was really annoying i like it how it is in windows12:52
Sonny_Wertzikgtg....take care all !12:52
jjazzcafuego:  I've been told merged fbs are faster, but I don't know which is the case.12:53
Nameless12jjazz, i hated it how it didnt "snap" to the window12:53
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someuseryou too sonny12:53
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cafuego_jjazz: Hmm, I've not used that. The difference between normal X and Xfb is quite dramatic though.12:53
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jjazzcafuego:  Good to know.  Thanks.12:54
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cafuego_jjazz: Mind you, that may be only the case for certain video cards. (MIne was  amatrox at the time).12:54
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jjazzNameless12:  I'm using Ubuntu with merged fb's and it does some snapping to each individual screen, but I don't know exactly what you're looking for.12:54
brownie17so.... will there be a newer version of gnome in breezy badger?12:54
jjazzcafuego:  Yeah, I imagine a lot of these issues are hardware-specific.12:54
cafuego_brownie17: 2.12, yes.12:54
someuseri'll tray save settings on the live CD, bye all12:55
refdoc100Hi, any idea how to get MOL 0.9.71 going on ubuntu breezy?12:55
ompaulcafuego_, where be the logs of the channel12:55
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cafuego_refdoc100: What OSX version you want to run in it?12:55
Nameless12jjazz, im looking for how it is in windows, i want to be able to fullscreen movies and such and have them snap to JUST THAT MONITOR.  If it works how you are describing that sounds good12:55
cafuego_ompaul: Umm... www.ubuntu.de or something12:55
cafuego_!logs12:55
ubotuChannel Logs are at: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/12:55
cafuego_Well, OR that :-12:55
refdoc100cafuego : 10.312:55
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ompaulcafuego, :) thanks12:55
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cafuego_refdoc100: Ok, that should be fine. There's a MOL HOWTO page on wiki.ubuntu.com - it's straightforward.12:56
CarmenSandiegoHello Seveas and cafuego!!! :)12:56
CarmenSandiegoIs it a good idea to install Firefox instead of using Konqueror?12:56
cafuego_Coz it ain't working with Tiger :-(12:56
cafuego_CarmenSandiego: if you prefer firefox, sure.12:56
jjazzNameless12:  It's been a while since I used Windows, but I can tell you that when I hit the 'Maximize Window' button on this Ubuntu/Gnome box, it maximizes to just this screen.12:56
refdoc100cafuego - thanks, but the HOWTO is for 9.70. 71 is required to get the airport extreme card working...12:56
Jrwaso I've just upgraded my laptop, and I'm getting "fatal IO error 104" on my X. Is that a breezy issue, or should I worry about my config?12:56
marcellusNameless12: I don't know if this works for ATI, but it might give you an idea. http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Monitors  Especially the non-TwinView config.12:57
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eyez_well, get gcc installed will take some time. I am a new user. and it needs to be configured first, then buildet.. and then installed? are there a simple  version of it?12:57
Bad_Magicwhats the chmod command to do rwxr--r-- ?12:57
cafuego_refdoc100: I didn't think airport would work *at all*12:57
Bad_Magicchmod 911 file?12:57
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bimberiBad_Magic: chmod 74412:58
cafuego_eyez_: You should not be compiling and building packages from source on Ubuntu. Especially not gcc.12:58
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Bad_Magicthanks12:58
Bad_Magichex makes my brain hurt today12:58
jjazzeyez_:  do 'sudo apt-get install build-essential' at the commandline12:58
bimberiBad_Magic: yw and lol :)12:58
cafuego_eyez_: Run 'synaptic', search for 'gcc' and install a version.12:58
scotttwhy would cards shpwing up in aplay -l, not show up in gnome volume control? isnt the volume control supposed to use alsa if its slected in multimedia systems selector?12:58
Nameless12marcellus, jjazz, im off to reboot. ill be back if it doesnt work, thanx for the help. l8tr12:59
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jjazzWait.  Why are you rebooting?12:59
scotttheh. too late =)12:59
holycowlike trained monkeys12:59
holycowit never fails12:59
marcellusheh12:59
jjazzWindows has trained people to reboot.  It's such an odd tick.12:59
cafuego_eyez_: By compiling and installing non-packaged software, you WILL destroy the package system and create problems down the line.01:00
stianhow do i get the tcl/tk package?01:00
abarbacciahey all - i'm in breezy - and i sintalled build-essential but i'm getting this error: /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 11: gcc-3.4: command not found01:00
abarbaccia/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 12: gcc-3.4: command not found01:00
abarbaccia  HOSTCC  scripts/basic/fixdep01:00
abarbaccia/bin/sh: gcc-3.4: command not found01:00
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abarbacciasorry about the multi liner01:00
cafuego_hey ho, new beagle :-)01:00
eyez_cafuego, ok, thank you for the warning01:00
refdoc100cafuego - yes there ius very interesting solution for AE on the Gentoo pages, but it requirees 0.9.71...01:00
cafuego_abarbaccia: sudo apt-get install gcc-3.401:00
joetheoddHey, how do I set my resolution above the maximum in the GNOME resolution tool..thing?01:01
abarbacciacafuego, got it, but shouldnt that be included in build-essential01:01
cafuego_abarbaccia: No, build-essential is for userpsace compilation, and that's done with gcc 4 on breezy.01:01
holycowjoetheodd, yes, but you need to also add the proper vertical and horizontal refresh rates for the model of your monitor in your /etc/x11/xorg.conf file01:01
joetheoddoh poop holycow01:01
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brownie17MadpilotPPC, someone should teach ubotu to mention ALSO when asked about ESD01:02
brownie17MadpilotPPC, ALSA*01:02
cafuego_refdoc100: Hmm. Best bet is to create yourself a mol apckage with the source deb from Ubuntu and the 0.9.71 tarball. use the debian/ build scripts in the Ubuntu source to build an updated tarball01:02
scotttbrownie17: then teach him =)01:02
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brownie17scottt, apathy is my greatest bottleneck for action. alright. ill do it01:03
refdoc100Cafuego - thanks Never done this but will try. I will come back if failing..01:03
eyez_damn its takes time to get used to this sytem. what about Antivirus, what is the good one for Ubuntu?01:03
scottteyez_: clamav, but you probably dont need it01:03
cafuego_refdoc100: it's normally fairly easy; just be sure you update the version number in debian/changelog01:04
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cafuego_eyez_: You don't need antivirus unless you for instance handle mail for WIndows machines.01:04
eyez_ok01:05
nootropehowdy. so, i've managed to boot up using the live disk and it has found my wireless access point, but it won't connect to the internet.01:05
nootropedo i need to add anything to the route table?01:05
scotttwere you dhcped an address?01:05
nootropehow can i check. an ifconfig only shows the router IP, i think01:06
brownie17scottt, bugger, what was the command to teach him something new?01:06
cafuego_ifconfig will ONLY show YOUR ip.01:06
cafuego_!brownie17 is forgetful01:06
ubotucafuego_: okay01:06
RMeist!st01:07
ubotuRMeist: Are you smoking crack?01:07
brownie17hahahaha01:07
scotttnootrope: ifconfig should show the ip you were given if it worked. otherwise dhclient -k eth0;dhclient eth001:07
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cafuego_!forget brownie1701:07
ubotui forgot brownie17, cafuego_01:07
brownie17!esd is, like, Enlightened Sound Daemon. By using a sound server to access your sound device, multiple applications can connect to the server at once and all make noise simultaneously. To use ALSA as an alternative see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063 or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3206301:07
ubotubrownie17: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about01:07
brownie17cafuego, why did it do that?01:07
RMeist!todo01:07
ubotuRMeist: I give up, what is it?01:07
RMeist!help01:07
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Kovecseshmm01:07
nootropescottt: ifconfig -a shows eth1 with an IP belonging to my airport. i'll try the other  command. thanks01:07
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cafuego_brownie17: maybe it doesn't like your ", like, " (it inserts those itself).01:08
brownie17cafuego, why isn't it working? it is saying it doesn't know what i am talking about01:08
scotttnootrope: uh. ok01:08
brownie17cafuego, ok01:08
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brownie17!esd is Enlightened Sound Daemon. By using a sound server to access your sound device, multiple applications can connect to the server at once and all make noise simultaneously. To use ALSA as an alternative see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063 or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3206301:08
ubotuokay, brownie1701:08
cafuego_!esd is the Enlightened Sound Daemon. By using a sound server to access your sound device, multiple applications can connect to the server at once and all make noise simultaneously. To use ALSA as an alternative see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063 or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3206301:08
ubotu...but esd is already something else...01:08
cafuego_d'oh :-)01:08
nootropescottt: uh? you saying that because i'm missing something.01:08
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brownie17cafuego, haha sorry01:09
brownie17cafuego, does it sound accurate to you?01:09
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eyez_how is the game support for Linux. or this is just not a game system?01:09
Bruninhaoi01:10
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jjazzeyez_:  It's not a game system, but with Cedega, you can run Win games01:10
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brownie17eyez_, pretty good. there are alternatives for most windows games, some that run on linux, and emulators that will run some01:10
jjazzeyez_:  Frankly, most people who are into cutting-edge games, keep a Windows partition.01:10
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brownie17eyez_, but if you are a serious gamer, and nothing else, then i doubt you would think linux a suitable alternative. maybe you should use both?01:11
eyez_jjazz, ok. well i am only thinking of WoW01:11
chris__#ubuntu-love01:11
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jjazzeyez_:  I'm a gamer, so I couldn't tell you anything about Wow.01:11
rob^heh01:11
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Bruninhahi01:12
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funkyHatis there any sort of timescale for composite and other smart rendered things to be completed?01:12
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eyez_Well i got both right now. but were just thinking if its posible to play some of the popular games in linux. but looks like i just need to try some and find out01:12
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maurycyany ideas how to configure wireless pcmcia card on ubuntu? i've installed wireless and ndiswrapper-utils packages and have installed my driver. although lspci and iwconfig lists my interface, i can't set up my network connection. also, lights on the card are turned off.01:13
cevizoglueyez_: Doom301:13
SpaceBassany reason why ping times on my LAN from ubuntu would be miserable while the same box running XP is fine?01:13
brownie17eyez_, doom3 works, unreal 05... cna think of any others but there are heaps01:13
maurycyit's dlink dwl-650+, airplus g+01:13
cafuego_funkyHat: inevitable heat death of the universe?01:13
eyez_ok, thanks for the help01:13
tristanmikeeyez_, Americas Army is free01:13
hajikimaurycy, did you load the ndiswrapper kernel module?01:13
funkyHathahaha01:13
brownie17!esd01:13
tristanmikeeyez_, same with Enemy Territory01:13
cafuego_maurycy: *maybe* with ndiswrapper or acx_100, but most likely your best bet is to buy a card that's better supported.01:14
brownie17cafuego, what is to stop losers tell ubotu to say rude things when asked questions?01:14
rob^if your wondering what windows games you can play with wine/cedega emulation on Linux, see http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/index.php?title=Main_Page01:14
nootropescottt: seems that eth1 is showing the IP DHCPed by my wireless router01:14
rob^there is also #cedega-wiki01:15
maurycyhajiki: strange, i've added modprobe ndiswrapper to /etc/netwok/interfaces, but i was not loaded. just loaded. still doesn't work.01:15
nootropescottt: but i still can't ping anything01:15
scotttnootrope: good, then you should be on the internet if your router is working properly01:15
nootropeok01:15
scotttnootrope: not even the router that gave you an ip?01:15
cafuego_brownie17: nothing.01:15
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cafuego_brownie17: Then again, there is nothing to stop ops banning them for doing that and removing what they added.01:15
hajikimaurycy, you would add 'ndiswrapper' to /etc/modules not /etc/network/interfaces01:15
rob^apparetly WOW works01:16
nootropescottt: i'll try the router.01:16
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cafuego_brownie17: And this the anarchy kinda works...01:16
maurycycafuego_: i have also dlink 610. :) but i think that this card works ok, i just can't set up.01:16
cafuego_thus01:16
hajikimaurycy, after thats done you would use "ndiswrapper -i /path/to/windows/criver" to install the driver01:16
cafuego_maurycy: the 650+ is *satan*. I have one with identical chipset, which will not work under Linux, no matter what.01:16
maurycyhajiki: did it aleady. ndiswrapper -l returns my gplus01:16
hajikimaurycy, after that you should be able to use the gnome network config tool to set it up01:16
nootropescottt: router iis ponging back01:17
rob^!cedega01:17
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, cedega is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega01:17
nootropescottt: but i can't ping, say, yahoo.com01:17
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maurycyhajiki: after that lights on the card are still turned off. :)01:17
brownie17cafuego, haha good. so i won't get in trouble for adding that ALSA thing to ESD?01:17
nootropescottt: DNS problem?01:17
scotttnootrope: then you have a problem with the router... or bad dns resolvers01:17
rob^ubotu no cedega is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/index.php?title=Main_Page01:17
uboturob^: okay01:17
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scotttnootrope: this is not really an #ubuntu issue and its been covered 3135475349023406734 times on google. look there01:17
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hajikimarcellus, so you just loaded the module with no errors? do you see anything in var/log/messages01:18
nootropescottt: i'm IRCing through the same router from a OS X computer01:18
maurycycafuego_: any experiences with 210? i have only these two cards.01:18
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scotttnootrope: google how to debug network issues linux01:18
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nootropescottt: i don't know if it's ubuntu or not. i figure it's just clulessness on my part about linux in general. thanks for the pointer. i'll take it from here. i appreciate your help.01:19
maurycyhajiki: any hints? and what do you mean as gnome config tool? gnome-nettool?01:19
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hajikimaurycy, yeah thats what i meant01:19
hajikimaurycy, check your logs in /var/log for errors, /var/log/messages maybe01:19
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zcatHey, so I fired up an Ubuntu5.10 livecd the other day. Anybody know why it would detect my software RAID1 and 5 devices just fine, but not RAID0?01:20
maurycyhajiki: a lot of: Sep 27 01:19:55 localhost kernel: [4298001.330000]  printk: 19 messages suppressed.01:20
maurycyhajiki: wait, i'll paste rest of01:20
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someuserhi all01:20
hajikimarcellus, er... i meant anything relevant regarding your driver problem with ndiswrapper01:20
hajikimarcellus, sorry wrong person01:20
someusercan somone plz help with tex editing?01:20
maurycyyeah, i understna01:21
maurycyunderstand :)01:21
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someusercan somone help with tex editing premissions?01:21
someuserplz01:21
hajikimaurycy pm me01:21
brownie17someuser, what is the problem?01:21
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someuserhi, i'm traing to edit the xorg.cfg, but with text editor i have Read premmisions only01:22
someusersomone have shown me a way with sudo command but i dont remember it01:22
zcatsomeuser, heh. text, not TEX01:23
funkyHatsudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:23
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someuserwoops :) sry01:23
brownie17someuser, if you are sure you know what you are doing in there (it's quite dangerous) and you've made a backup, use the "sudo" command before the command in terminal01:23
zcatsomeuser, and when you really know what you're doing: "sudo su -"01:23
maurycyhajiki: http://pastebin.com/37519101:23
maurycyhajiki: dunno if it's enough01:23
brownie17zcat, maybe that's a little ahead of him01:23
scotttzcat: sudo -s is probably better than sudo su -01:23
zcatah well, back to fedora. [k] ubuntu's still my 2nd fav distro. :)01:23
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maurycyhajiki: that's all i have in /var/log/messages seeming related to wireless stuff01:24
funkyHatzcat, c really know what i'm doing, i still use sudo01:24
someuserall i want it to edit the Screen refreshrates01:24
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funkyHat*i01:24
joetheoddzcat, whats the su and s arguments do?01:24
donaldanyone know how to start mozilla firefox01:24
cevizoglujoetheodd: su is switch user01:24
someuseri did it before , but do not remember how to open xorg.conf with write premmitions01:24
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funkyHatclick the icon for it01:24
funkyHat;)01:24
donaldit doesent seem to be listed under the internet file01:24
brownie17someuser, i think there may be away to do that without editing the xorg.conf directly. have you tried all tools in the menus?01:24
someuseri did but got only Read Premmisions01:25
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someuseryes01:25
brownie17someuser, there is  way from the menus01:25
joetheoddOh, I have my box set up so I can use su instead of sudo su.01:25
brownie17someuser, go system -> prefs -> screen res01:25
joetheoddWhat I did is sudo passwd root01:25
donaldfunkyhat there is no icon for it01:25
joetheodd=p01:25
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funkyHatdonald, alt+F2 and then firefox should work01:25
someuserlook, in the menu there is only en 60Hz option, i did fix it with the help of sonny & it workd fine01:26
joetheoddNot very secure at all, but hey01:26
mduranhi01:26
funkyHator create a launcher that points to firefox01:26
scotttjoetheodd: haha. way to circumvent the security measures ubuntu ships with ;)01:26
someuseri just don't remember how to open the file with write provliges01:26
mdurani need show mouse on screen01:26
someuserit was sudo xorg.conf somthing....01:26
donaldfunkyhat got a message01:27
donaldDetails: There is no default action associated with this location.01:27
funkyHatscottt, it's not so much a security feature as an idiot-proof feature :)01:27
henkhow do i configure my logitech keyboard's special keys ? like 'email' 'next' 'play' etc01:27
joetheoddscottt: It was more annoying than helpful, to tell the truth, but I have a windows box as a DMZ, so I'm clearly not paranoid about security (no offense indended to anyone here)01:27
brownie17sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:27
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maurycyhajiki: http://pastebin.com/37519501:27
brownie17someuser, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:27
HrdwrBoB henk system-> preferences->keyboard shortcuts01:27
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war-totemcan someoen tell me if its possible to read hotmail emails from mutt with hotway installed?01:27
joetheoddfunkyHat: haha01:27
someuseryah tahts the one01:27
HrdwrBoBwar-totem: extremely unlikely01:27
brownie17someuser, but if it isn't available from the tool in gnome menu, then maybe your screen can't display it. maybe. i think01:27
maurycyhajiki: obviouslly dhcp on the router is configured and works perfectly with windows.01:27
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joetheoddAnyhow, downloading WINE from CVS (thanks whoever gave me that link!), so I'm out01:28
scotttid really appreciate some help with my sound card if anyone has a moment. it may be a bug, but i dont want to waste anyones time if it isnt. alsamixer shows my card, but gnomes volume control cant, so no sound in my desktop...01:28
war-totemHrdwrBoB, is there any way to access hotmail from mutt?01:28
ksmurfhey are there no updates in the last 2 days or am I missing something?01:28
funkyHatdonald, what version of ubuntu are you running?01:28
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crimsunksmurf: you're missing something.01:28
hajikimaurycy, wait, so your lights are on or off?01:28
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someuser10q !!01:28
maurycyhaich: off01:28
ksmurfcrimsun....... doh.  did the repo get changed?01:28
brownie17ksmurf, there was a kernel update.01:29
crimsunksmurf: no, why?01:29
donaldver 5.0.01:29
donaldsorry 5.0.401:29
maurycyhaich: no matter what apps are doing, lights are still turned off.01:29
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hajikidoes your access point need a WEP key?01:29
jamuraaI just installed Breezy on a Dell Inspirion 4100 and there seems to be no pcmcia support at all, is this a common problem with a solution?01:29
ksmurfmy sources.list hasn't changed except for adding merriat.... and I have no updates for breezy.01:29
maurycyhajiki: no.01:29
maurycyhaich: sorry, wrong person :)01:30
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FhaeTonI have a 64bit system and want to know which Ubuntu install would be best01:30
HrdwrBoBFhaeTon: it depends01:30
HrdwrBoBFhaeTon: I run a 32 bit install on my 64bit system because it's easier01:30
ksmurfjamuraa I don't know about dell but acer works great except for battery level01:30
FhaeTonim running SLI 7800 gts and want to run raid001:31
HrdwrBoBSLI isn't supported - yet01:31
brownie17HrdwrBoB, what differences are there? wouldn't they be basically the same?01:31
HrdwrBoBbrownie17: yes and no01:31
HrdwrBoBbrownie17: things like cedega, flash, etc01:31
FireCatFhaeTon: I have an AMD64 and the only thing I've gotten to work right so far is Ubuntu Breezy Preview01:31
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brownie17HrdwrBoB, ohhhh01:31
FhaeTonoh01:31
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hajikipcmcia works fine for me on breezy01:32
HrdwrBoBFhaeTon: my recommendation would be to use the i386 breezy install01:32
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FhaeTonwhat supports SLI01:32
afaikWhen I try to start a terminal, the scrollbar is white and blank with no arrows and the screen is black and completely blank01:32
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afaikWHY!?01:32
someuserhi all, enyone knows wht's ubuntu "SU" password is ?01:32
FhaeToni386 supports sli01:32
afaikI CANNAE TYPE!!01:32
HrdwrBoBFhaeTon: neither currently, but when the 8xxx drivers come out (soon) they will01:32
maurycyhajiki: cafuego_ said that might be dlink 650+ problem. i'll try dlink 610 tomorrow or buy other card.01:32
h08817someuser: you mean sudo?01:32
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cevizoglujamuraa: what is the name of the pcmcia hardware in your dell?01:32
thoreauputic!tell someuser about root01:32
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afaikwhy did the ubuntu break my shit!?01:32
brownie17afaik, is it a proper error, or a font and colour error?01:32
hajikimaurycy, oh ok... good luck01:32
someuseri mean su (i think) :)01:32
ksmurfsomeruser use sudo su01:32
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afaikbrownie17, it is unresponsive01:33
afaikit worked 10 minutes ago01:33
brownie17try typing a commmand and pressing enter, see if it works even though it doesnt show up. like gedit01:33
maurycyhajiki: thanks :)01:33
afaikI start a new one, and it does nothing01:33
brownie17afaik, what have you done in that time?01:33
FhaeTondamn01:33
hajikinp01:33
afaikit sits there, opens up, and the screen is blank and I cannot type01:33
someuser?01:33
FireCatFhaeTon: I'm using Raid 0 across three sata drives01:33
afaikbeats me... my system is acting up01:33
ReadingGuyanyone know how to set up a logitech trackman wheel so that the wheel will act as double click as it does in Windows01:33
afaikI tried to watch a movie in xine, it keeps freezing badly after the 4th frame01:33
afaikI will ctrl+f1 and kill some processes01:34
brownie17afaik,restart01:34
afaikctrl+alt+f101:34
afaikno01:34
someuserok, got it thenx, one more...01:34
afaikI cannot restart01:34
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afaikI have something important happening01:34
brownie17afaik, ok?01:34
brownie17afaik, ok01:34
FhaeTonnoice01:34
FhaeTonhow do u have it set up01:34
someuserhow can i save my current settings runing from a Live-CD?01:34
FhaeTontoh sata01:34
afaiksides, linux shouldnt need to restart01:34
_eyezWhat Linux do i choce when trying to download newest Driver for Gforce?01:34
HrdwrBoBFhaeTon: in the installer01:34
FhaeToni don't have sata drives01:34
brownie17_eyez, what are the option01:35
FhaeTonI have 2 uata 133 hitachi drives01:35
jamuraacevizoglu: hmm never mind, it is just not loading the wireless driver I guess?  the wireless card I have plugged in is showing up on lspci01:35
ksmurfanyone have an idea why I have no screen when i cntl-alt-f1 to f5?  I have x np01:35
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ksmurfusing breezy01:35
HrdwrBoBFhaeTon: you can setup and install onto raid from the installer01:35
afaikshould I kill /sbin/getty?01:35
jamuraacevizoglu: the pcmcia is texas instruments pci1420 though01:35
afaikwhat is getty?01:35
someuserenyone knows how can i save my current settings runing from a Live-CD on next boot?01:35
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cevizoglujamuraa: ah, ok.  I'm about to buy a dell maybe so I was getting worried there01:35
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FhaeTonIi have them hooked up as master one to the primary and the other to the secondary01:35
rob^_eyez, IA32 unless you have another platform01:36
_eyezLinux IA32 , Linux amd64/em64t and linux IA64 and freeBSD01:36
eviltacoHi first off, I got my Ubuntu CDs today and am VERY happy.01:36
someuseris someone free to help...01:36
rob^most likely01:36
_eyezrob^, ok thx. no i am using the normal system01:36
brownie17someuser, umm. why do you want to do that?01:36
eviltacoBut then I have a question, is there a java installer that is already premade to work with Ubuntu, so I don't have to make one?01:36
someuserto use my prefrencces on next boot...01:36
rob^_eyez, you do know the nvidia drivers are packaged in ubuntu?01:37
brownie17someuser, the nature of livecd is that you don't save your settings, therefore guaranteeing it will work next time01:37
henkHrdwrBoB, is there a tool that will let me define my own keyboard shortcuts? i want to bind some applications to keys that are not in the list of keyboard shortcuts01:37
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scottt!java01:37
ubotuI guess java is to install Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats01:37
Zeroblitztuh oh. I hit a snag when trying to install Breezy01:37
Zeroblitztnow I'm afraid to restart my computer01:37
someuserthre is en option on other Live-CD i have trayed01:37
FireCatIs anyone else running AMD64 smp Breezy that can confirm that Module.symvers01:37
FireCat is missing out of linux-headers01:37
someuserthre is en option on other Live-CD i have trayed!!!!!01:37
ksmurfIs there a good rss agrarator for gnome that will handle podcasts?01:37
scottt!java01:37
ubotu[java]  to install Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats01:37
someuserand further more the system aoutoloads it on boot01:37
scotttdamn it. sorry01:37
_eyezrob^, the newest once?01:37
thoreauputicsomeuser: the option you want is currently missing on Ubuntu live CDs01:38
brownie17someuser,  well why do you want to? if you want your settings saved, intall ubuntu01:38
eviltaco"Package j2re1.4 has no installation candidate01:38
eviltaco" what does that mean?01:38
rob^_eyez, the one on the nvidia site is most likely the latest one01:38
thoreauputicbrownie17: you are kind of missing the point here :)01:38
_eyezrob^, ok, cool thx01:38
someuseri do not want to install enything, issent it the butee of LIVE_CD???01:38
ksmurfwvil it means there is no sun java in the repos anymore01:38
rob^eviltaco, you need to enable the repositories01:38
brownie17thoreauputic, i am? explain please?01:38
rob^eviltaco, and do it as per restrictedformats01:38
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scotttsomeuser: no. thats not the beauty of a live-cd01:39
pestilencehelp!  thunderbird won't start01:39
thoreauputicbrownie17: various people use live CDs as a kind of portable linux: they like to keep their personal settings etc01:39
scotttsomeuser: the point is to use _very_ generic settings so it will work everytime, then configure from there01:39
pestilenceit doesn't give any real errors on the command line, it just hangs01:39
brownie17thoreauputic, oh ok01:39
ksmurfIs there a good rss agrarator for gnome that will handle podcasts?  I have tried bashpodder....01:39
scotttpestilence01:39
scottt!ff fix01:39
ubotufrom memory, ff fix is sudo dpkg --purge --force-depends firefox firefox-gnome-support ; sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox mozilla-firefox-gnome-support01:39
eviltacorob^ I'm in the SPM, what package should I enable?01:39
someuserwell for me it is, the reason whay i don't installig it it's that Linux Takes over my boot, & i HATE IT!01:39
pestilenceand if i do "mv .mozilla-thunderbird .mozilla-thunderbird-old" it doesn't help01:40
scotttpestilence: then killall firefox-bin and try starting again01:40
someuser*install01:40
pestilencescottt: was this caused by a recent dist-upgrade?01:40
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rob^!nvidia01:40
ubotusomebody said nvidia was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia01:40
ksmurfsomeuser you can choose other os as the default01:40
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thoreauputicsomeuser: "takes over" ? What do you mean? grub gives a choice of OS...01:40
someuseryes, but i wish to use MS boot Loader & not Linuxm is there a way to do so?01:41
rob^ubotu tell eviltaco about java01:41
scotttpestilence: it was caused by you using backports and upgrade together, probably01:41
someuserLinux,*01:41
thoreauputicsomeuser: there is, but why?01:41
d2dchatwhat program do you use to write cds?01:41
someuseri hate changes :P01:41
thoreauputicsomeuser: grub is much easier to install and use, and more powerful01:41
ksmurfAnyone? Is there a good rss agrarator that will handle podcasts in gnome??01:41
brownie17someuser, then why linux :)01:41
rob^d2dchat, gnomebaker01:41
cevizoglusomeuser: do you mean you want windows to be default?  it's editable01:42
rob^d2dchat, or k3b01:42
someuseronce i installed Mndrake & cursed the moment it took control of my boot loading :}01:42
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pestilencescottt: they are already the  newest version, and firefox and firefox-gnome-support were not installed01:42
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someuserno,no01:42
pestilencescottt: i'm not using backports.01:42
scotttpestilence: you must have another problem then01:42
someuseri want to see in the Windows Multiboot option the Linux os, is it possible?01:42
scottt=)01:42
d2dchatrob^, ty:)01:42
pestilenceanybody else know why thunderbird all of a sudden stopped working?01:42
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rob^np01:42
thoreauputicsomeuser: this sounds like a personal problem of yours - I suggest counselling *grin*01:43
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someuser"I suggest counselling *grin*"  ??ahh?01:43
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FireCatsomeuser: No, microsoft doesn't understand other filesystems01:43
snausagessomeuser he's making fun of yo ubecause you wanna use windows01:43
cevizoglusomeuser: microsoft doesn't want you to boot linux, that option will never be there01:43
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thoreauputicsomeuser: but seriously, if you want to do that , google "windows ntloader linux" or similar01:44
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rob^whatever..01:44
someuserit's ok, i allsow gonna use OSX 1.4 i hope it's less funy :P01:44
cevizoglupestilence: the.. oh nevermind01:44
thoreauputicsnausages: no I wasn't making fun of that - just his need to have windows control his dual boot :)01:45
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someuserok, so is there a GUI & easy way to make win deafolt sys?01:45
someuserrob, i'm not.01:45
qt2damnit. brb, reboot.01:45
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cevizoglusomeuser: not that I know of but it's pretty easy to make windows the default boot01:45
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_eyezwhat porgram can i use for waching films with (divx, avi)01:46
someuserenyway, installing Linux on my HD is to Obligating for me. i just want to have fun with it. :}01:46
someuserand to tray es meny Live-OS that i can.01:46
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someuserty, enyway.01:47
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brownie17cevizoglu, i only use it for fixing shit when ubotu is broke01:47
brownie17cevizoglu, ubuntu*01:48
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hyperactivecrond!mp301:48
ubotumethinks mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support01:48
someuserno, live-cd it grate!!! & it's the reason i use ubuntu now !!!01:48
rob^no no, ubotu is often broke01:48
cevizoglubrownie17: you can also use safemode for that01:48
rob^:)01:48
cevizoglubrownie17: at least some times01:48
hyperactivecrondugh where can I install mp3 support in Breezy01:48
brownie17cevizoglu, mkay01:48
thoreauputicsomeuser: http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=windows+ntloader+linux&btnG=Google+Search&meta=01:48
hyperactivecrondsomeuser, do u have 2k or XP?01:48
someuserxp01:49
hyperactivecronduse grub01:49
hyperactivecrondit works fine01:49
thoreauputic!tell hyperactivecrond about mp301:49
someuseri hate grube01:49
hyperactivecronduse lilo then01:49
seliniumhi thoreauputic :)01:49
someuserOK, let's say that i will install ubuntu on my HD.....01:49
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_eyezwhat porgram can i use for waching films with (divx, avi)01:50
thoreauputicsomeuser: I gave you a whole page of google links on this subject01:50
afaikxine01:50
afaikor mplayer01:50
brownie17_eyez, vlc is good01:50
marcellus_eyez: xine, mplayer, totem, vlc, etc..01:50
someuseris there a good way to uninstal it end get the MS bootloader without reformating?01:50
hyperactivecrond!tell _eyez about divx01:50
someuseri'm reading ty.01:50
_eyezthanks guys01:51
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someuserBut, is there a good way to uninstal it end get the MS bootloader without reformating?01:51
thoreauputicsomeuser: questions about the windows bootloader are kind of off-topic here01:51
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smurI really hate to ask, but how do I mount and read/write to a secondary ntfs drive?01:51
rubemhi there...01:51
someusernow dont be childish..01:51
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smurI edited fstab01:51
rubemWhat player is a good player for play .mov videos?01:51
thoreauputicsmur: write to ntfs isn't supported in linux01:51
rikairubem, vlc01:51
hyperactivecrondthoreauputic, with capture it is01:52
rob^captiiventfs?01:52
afaikxine and mplayer work well01:52
thoreauputicsmur: at least not without experimental additions01:52
hyperactivecronds/capture/captiventfs01:52
afaikrubem, you'll need the codecs though01:52
thoreauputichyperactivecrond: yes I know01:52
smurI was afraid of that01:52
afaikthey are in multi-verse I think01:52
butcherbirdsomeuser, fdisk /mbr or fixmbr something like that in windows01:52
afaikor sid01:52
afaik:)01:52
hyperactivecrondsomeuser, recovery console01:52
smurI can READ ntfs though?01:52
hyperactivecrondfrom win cd01:52
hyperactivecrondsmur: yes01:52
someuserok!, and how do i delete the files ?01:52
rubemafaik, rikal, even in this vlc I'll need the codecs?01:53
h08817delete what files?01:53
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butcherbirdrubem, vlc you wont need codecs01:53
smurOkay, well, then I just add an "ro" to the options line in fstab, then mount it?  I can just copy everything01:53
someuseri mean after ih'v don it, how cen i remuve ubuntu os files afterwood?01:53
rubemthank you, let's apt-get :)01:53
afaikbur[n] er, I thought you did?01:53
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rikaisomeuser, format the partition.01:54
rikaisomeuser, the partition that had ubuntu on it that is.01:54
rubemwhich are the best apt repositories?01:54
selinium!repos01:54
uboturumour has it, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96901:54
rubemI use mirrors.kernel.org01:54
h08817someuser: you can use fdisk to format it but make sure you remove the non-dos partition01:54
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thoreauputicrubem: don't use debian repos, please01:54
afaikI'm a command line commando01:55
seliniumrubem, use ^^^^01:55
someuserok,  so i need to make a new partition for ubuntu and then murg it with win prt'?!01:55
t432Whats wrong with slackware people?01:55
afaikand I was curious, how can I watch movies from the CLI?01:55
rubemthoreauputic, why? Ubuntu isn't debian based?01:55
hyperactivecrondrubem, you can screw stuff up if you do so01:55
afaikrubem, switch to debian sid repositories and do a dist-upgrade01:55
seliniumrubem, based yes, debian no01:55
smurhyperactivecrond: okay, I should just add an "ro" option to fstab, then mount and copy everything?01:55
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t432Ubuntu is debian based01:55
smurI just need the music off the drive and such01:55
thoreauputicrubem: it is, but it's based on a snapshot of sid - it is normally out of sync with ubuntu01:56
hyperactivecrondsmur: options = ro,uid=smur01:56
hyperactivecrondsmur=ur username01:56
afaikI done it before... it "upgraded" my ubuntu box to a debian box :)01:56
rubemsorry, hyperactivecrond, I did not get it...01:56
rikaihttp://ubuntu.pastebin.com/375207 <- can someone tell me how to fix this problem?01:56
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afaik"Fourth Level, passed!"01:56
afaikI kid, I kid :)01:56
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rubemhum, my system could crash?01:56
smurhyperactivecrond: thankyou very much01:56
afaikit could01:56
afaikor it could be better01:56
hyperactivecrondnp01:56
seliniumrubem you can break your box yes01:56
thoreauputicrubem: your package management can get totally stuffed up01:56
someuseryou see it's to mouch hard work - Live-CD is so Easy!!!!01:56
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rubemow... I hate free software lack of padronization...01:57
hyperactivecrondrubem, think using windows 3.1 packages under XP01:57
afaikwell, I dont see how he would break his box doing a dist-upgrade to Debian Sid01:57
hyperactivecronds/3.1/2.001:57
afaikit would turn his box into debian01:57
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afaikthats all01:57
rubemgood point. hyperactivecrond01:57
hyperactivecrondafaik, you try that and tell us how it works out.01:57
Nikopolafaik, yeah so as we said break it ;)01:57
thoreauputicafaik: gcc4 (if from breezy) for one example01:58
rubemso, do you recomend thesse: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 only?01:58
afaikgcc4 is in experimental01:58
afaiknot sid01:58
Nikopolthere's a huge gulf between debian and ubuntu at the mo no?01:58
thoreauputicafaik: exactly01:58
afaikso I stand by my words01:58
afaikhis box will not break01:58
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rikaisomeuser, it's jsut as hard to uninstall windows. :P01:58
thoreauputicafaik: breeezy uses gcc4, sid doesn't01:58
crimsunNikopol: "huge"? Not nearly as huge as one might think.01:58
rubemhyperactivecrond, do you recomendo to use these only: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96901:58
rubem?01:58
someuserso tell me ther is no way to isnatll ubuntu and renuve it without reformating & reinstalling WIndows ?!01:59
afaikoh breezy01:59
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afaikmy bad01:59
Nikopolcrimsun, regarding the packages they're not too compatible at the mo no?01:59
someuserremuve*01:59
afaikI thought it was an expression01:59
crimsunNikopol: they're nearly always source-compatibel.01:59
crimsuncompatible, rather01:59
Nikopolcrimsun, true01:59
hyperactivecrondrikai, mkreiserfs /dev/hda1? :(01:59
hyperactivecrondoops :)01:59
Flying-PenguinHOLY CRAP01:59
rikaihyperactivecrond, lol.01:59
seliniumafaik: It's not a good idea to confuse people about the repos! :)01:59
Nikopolcrimsun, not really that big on the face of things01:59
afaikwhat is the flying spaghetti monster01:59
hyperactivecrondrubem: not under breezy01:59
HrdwrBoBafaik: google will tell you02:00
hyperactivecrondbut for hoary they're the derault02:00
Nikopolafaik, his box may not break but could become a pain in the ass to use02:00
JairunCalothIf I compiled my video drivers and I get this update with the new headers and image, am I going to have to recompile my drivers?02:00
HrdwrBoBI was touched by his noodly appendage02:00
rohalhi i have been using ubuntu from a month now.......doing grt....but wht u ppl feel about gentoo???02:00
hyperactivecrondWe're on a highway to hell... WE're on a highway to hell...02:00
butcherbirdsomeuser, look at partition magic to free up space for a new partition02:00
hyperactivecrondrohal, trollfood02:00
hyperactivecrondor flamefuel02:00
Nikopolrohal, you kidding yeah?02:00
afaikgrt?02:00
Nikopolgreat I assume02:01
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Nikopolor gr802:01
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hyperactivecrondbut rohal imho gentoo's fast b/c everythings from source.02:01
afaikrohal, check the bans in #gentoo and you will see my feelings on it02:01
hyperactivecrondbut hard to use02:01
someuserits just to much fuss for me!!! that's whay i use Live-CD only!02:01
rohalNikopol: how would u rate that gentoo??02:01
afaikhyperactivecrond, a lie02:01
thoreauputicrohal: distro discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic02:01
afaikI ran gentoo on a box for 6 months02:01
cevizoglurohal: don't feel anything about gentoo... what does it matter?02:01
hyperactivecrondafaik, i've been banend too , thx astinus02:01
hyperactivecrondbut as rockinnerd02:01
afaikI noticed no speed increase. and yes, I used all the "optimization flags"02:01
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afaikGentoo being "faster" is a myth02:02
someuseri hade very bad expiriens with Mandrake Dual Boot & just wish ubuntu hade a save settings script, like OTHER LIVE_CD DO!02:02
rikaihyperactivecrond, ubuntu runs more speedily than gentoo for me :o02:02
Nikopolrohal, have used it before but really felt the emerge times were not really worth the potential improvement02:02
hyperactivecrondcool02:02
thoreauputicguys, gentoo discussions >> #ubuntu-offtopic02:02
afaikafter all, there's nothing "fast" about spending 40 hours compiling kde02:02
rohalits distro watch rating is way down...as compared to ubuntu....why so...i thought its a popoular & fast distro02:02
Nikopolok sorry :(02:02
afaikwhen I can apt-get it in 5 minutes02:02
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hyperactivecrondafaik, the binaries are fast too i think02:02
rikaisomeuser, err, you could always make one. :D02:02
afaikrohal, again, gentoo being fast is a myth02:02
afaikprove me wrong02:02
someuserhow?02:03
afaiks/fast/faster02:03
rohalNikopol: so u prefer ubuntu over gentoo....i have seen guys finally settling on gentoo after moving around on many distros....02:03
someuserwhait, isent there a save iso command ??02:03
Nikopolrohal, sure02:03
thoreauputicafaik: please, you have been asked: #ubuntu-offtopic for gento/distro discussions02:03
hyperactivecrondrohal, that's them.02:03
someuseri'll settle for that02:03
rikairohal, did they try ubuntu? :P02:03
sudonimanybody using evolution to connect to exchange 2003?02:03
JairunCalothI've heard people say that they like gentoo because of the customizability, but it's a pain in the arse to setup02:04
afaikrohal, I have tried genteww, Dredian, Red Crap, Womandrake, and suckware, before I finally found my home with FreeBSD02:04
rohalNikopol: atleast they have tried debian..02:04
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afaikanyway, I am done on this topic02:04
Nikopolrohal, I won't talk about it here02:04
rubemhey guys, you helped a lot, but can anyone say me which are the bests apt repos for ubuntu?02:04
rikaican someone tell me how to fix this problem when upgrading packages? -> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/37520702:04
Nikopolam in the other channel02:04
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afaikbut will rohal follow?02:04
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rohalNikopol: iwill02:04
JairunCalothIf I get this kernel patch, am I going to have to recompile my video drivers?02:05
someuserthre shuld be a way to make en ISO from the current Live-CD that's loaded to the machine, rghite????02:05
rohalNilkopol: where will u be comfortable to talk abt this???02:05
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Nikopolrohal, sure02:05
deadcatis zd1211 in ubuntu or plans to be in ubuntu?02:05
someusersomone?>02:05
Nikopolrohal, #ubuntu-offtopic02:05
hyperactivecrondsomeuser, chill02:05
crimsundeadcat: "zd1211"?02:06
someuserk02:06
sudonimAnybody using evolution w/ Exchange?02:06
rubemis there a portage implementatiob for ubuntu?02:06
crimsunno.02:06
bimberiubotu tell rikai about ff fix02:06
rubem:(02:06
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deadcatcrimsun: wireless usb driver02:06
hyperactivecrond!tell rikai about ff fix02:06
hyperactivecrondwoops02:07
rikailol, thanks guys. ;)02:07
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rikaiwhy does that do that anyway?02:07
bimberirikai: sorts out an issue with backports02:08
seliniumtell rubem about repos02:08
rikaibimberi, ah, so it's backports causing the issues02:08
bimberirikai: this time yes :)02:08
hyperactivecrond!tell rubem about repos02:08
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seliniumhyperactivecrond, cheers!02:09
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hyperactivecrondlol02:09
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rikai"mv: cannot stat `/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/defaults.ini': No such file or directory" <- i'm assuming that's an error i can ignore...? ;)02:09
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bimberirikai: hm, not sure, not much alternative tho02:10
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rikaiindeedy.02:10
intuit_woot!02:11
intuit_jk02:11
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afaikrohal wont come to #ubuntu-offtopic, because he wants to troll in #ubuntu02:13
war-totemHrdwrBoB, do you know how to specify a color for a specific email?02:13
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Falstiuswhat happened to azureus, its not in the repositories anymore?02:14
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HrdwrBoBwar-totem: no02:14
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war-totemHrdwrBoB, ok tx02:15
rikaiFalstius, it is.02:15
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sdaliAnyone understand why iptables would show "accept all, anywhere,anywhere" for my input chain? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2569  Doesn't this mean that I'm basically not running a firewall?02:15
someusereureka ! ! !02:15
crimsunsdali: by default Ubuntu does nothing with iptables+netfilter02:16
someuser"how to build a customized Ubuntu LiveCD based on the new Live CD infrastructure"  :} GOT IT !!!02:16
rob_psdali:  Yup!02:16
rikaihm, time to reboot now.02:16
someuser:p :p02:16
Falstiusrikai: I get this: Package azureus is not available, but is referred to by another package. Blah Blah Blah.02:16
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someuseri'm cheel'd ;)02:16
rikaiFalstius, strange, i installed it a few minutes ago02:16
kb7ypfso did I02:16
sdalicrimsun: Then how in the heck did it get enabled, with somewhat intelligent entries if ubuntu didn't do it?02:16
FalstiusI'm running AMD64 .. maybe it is blocking it02:17
rikaiFalstius, try closing synaptic, opening a terminal and typing apt-get update02:17
rikaioh, that might be it.02:17
rikaii'm not very familiar with amd64 issues yet. :P02:17
rikaianywho, reboot time.02:17
kb7ypfwhat is this?  Just installed Ubuntu and playing around :-)02:17
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livewire_hi all02:17
kb7ypfhello02:18
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crimsunsdali: what got enabled?02:18
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livewire_Im back in the linux thing after a 2 year hiatus02:18
rikaikb7ypf, xchat is an irc client, #ubuntu is an irchelp channel for ubuntu, ubuntu is a linux distrobution.02:18
sdalicrimsun: /var/log/messages shows it like this:02:18
sdaliSep 22 08:25:48 localhost kernel: ip_tables: (C) 2000-2002 Netfilter core team02:18
sdaliSep 22 08:25:48 localhost kernel: ip_conntrack version 2.1 (6143 buckets, 49144 max) - 336 bytes per conntrack02:18
maxbitte?02:18
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livewire_and of course I have hardware that doesn't work02:18
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crimsunsdali: that means there's kernel support for it enabled. That doesn't mean a firewall is ACTIVE.02:18
maxlol, got highlight :D02:18
kb7ypfrikai: thanks for the information..  Help is something I could use.02:18
livewire_anyone have a soundblaster audigy 4 (non-pro) working?02:18
d2dchathow do i mount my cdrom drive?02:19
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d2dchatfor some reason the cd writer doesnt recognize it02:19
d2dchatBUT02:19
d2dchatit does?02:19
d2dchatlol02:19
rob_psdali:  According to your paste, it looks like something has indeed manipulated the filtering tables...02:19
d2dchatit found it but it's not mounted?02:19
sdalicrimsun: iptables shows my DNS servers, both of my eth interfaces, and it appears that it has also looked at the static routes I have setup.02:19
kb7ypfQuestion:  why does "wine" run some win98 programs and not others?02:19
test34-d2dchat, mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /mount/point - might work02:20
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crimsunsdali: huh?02:20
sdalicrimsun: shorewall isn't enabled, and firestarter was never configured.02:20
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crimsunsdali: I have no idea what you're asking02:21
crimsunsdali: there is no firewall configured by default. If you want one enabled, you have to install one and configure it, then activate it.02:21
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sdalicrimsun: "iptables -L " shows that something has considered my "setup" (interfaces, DNS, static routes) and it has made the entries in the iptables (kernel). So, if ubuntu didn't do that for me, then ... ?02:22
someuserbye02:22
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sdalicrimsun: I guess I need to look closer to see if firestarter did it for me.02:23
rob_psdali:  crimsun is correct in his statement.  However, it looks like you do indeed have something installed that is configuring at least a minimal set of packet filtering rules.  I'd check your runlevel dir for any symbolic links to any of the firewall configuration apps you have installed.02:23
riddleboxis anyone using a WPC54G wireless card?02:23
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Paradoxxcan some1 explain to me how to install a .deb?02:23
shinuanyone know if the Orinoco Gold Combocard is linux compatible?02:23
crimsunParadoxx: sudo dpkg -i foo.deb02:23
sdalirob_p: Yep. I think so too. THanks.02:23
rob_pnp02:23
afaikrohal, you can fuck off with the trolling02:23
Paradoxxcrimsun: and then what?02:24
tristanmikeafaik, and you can watch the language02:24
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tristanmikeafaik, please :)02:24
rubemwhere can i get the .mov codec for totem ????02:24
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Nameless12im back, and still having problems. i have reinstalled ubuntu this time version 5.04  i have redone my xorg.conf when ubuntu loads my 2nd monitor "powers down" and goes on stand by, i am confused  anyway here is the xorg file http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/257002:24
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rubemwhere can i get the .mov codec for totem ????02:25
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rubemanyone????02:25
Nikopolis that not in the w32codecs?02:26
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Nameless12rubem, there is a good tutorial for that at www.ubuntuguide.org (it has all the codecs listed there and there is a repositarys list there if you need it)02:26
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rohalafaik: any probs??02:26
transparentdreamWhy won;t my wireless work> It says it's active but i cant connect to the internet02:26
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sdalirob_p: Check my understanding here - who or whatever configured the firewall for me added an entry that says "ACCEPT     all  --  anywhere             anywhere". This says to me that I'm wide open, but today when a colleague of mine tried to VNC into my ubuntu box, he was not allowed (due to the firewall). Does that accept all anywhere,anywhere open it up to the world or not?02:26
Paradoxxcrimsun: ty much dude02:26
crimsundeadcat: support for the zd1211 was added to Breezy's kernel on Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:33:25 +020002:27
Nikopolrubem, what you under?02:27
rob_psdali:  one sec... let me review your paste again...02:27
bettong_BOFHhas anyone tryed to install skype in breezy?02:27
crimsundeadcat: see linux-source-2.6.12 (2.6.12-3.2)02:27
bettong_BOFHi'm running into a dependancy problem02:27
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sdalirob_p: I left out all of the other personally identifiable parts.02:27
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rubemNikopol Ubuntu 5.0402:28
Etkinsonanyone here ever tried gentoo?02:28
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bettong_BOFHyes i have02:28
bettong_BOFHit's not worth it02:28
Etkinsonfor how long?02:28
bettong_BOFHnot for a run of the mill user02:28
Nikopolrubem, yeah it should be in the w32codecs02:28
rob_psdali:  Yes.  It would appear to be the case with the entry that reads, "ACCEPT     all  --  anywhere             anywhere."02:29
bettong_BOFHfor about the 4 hours it took to compile it02:29
Etkinsoni'm thinking about trying gentoo to increase my knowledge of linux...02:29
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Nikopolrubem, you've set up the extra repositories?02:29
AgrajagThat won't increase your knowledge of anything02:29
bettong_BOFHwell if ya want to go ahead02:29
adjacentEtkinson: why not use a harder binary distro?02:29
Etkinson:)02:29
bettong_BOFHit will just piss you off in the end02:29
Agrajagit'll increase the time you spend staring blankly at gcc output02:29
rubemNikopol, what extra repos?02:29
Etkinsoni'm not an average user; i have alot of motivation to learn when it comes to linux.02:29
transparentdreamHey, is there a way to remote connect to a friend's computer to help them like in Wondows?02:30
Nikopolrubem, have you edited the /etc/apt/sources.list file02:30
WhiteRabbitgentoo does teach patience02:30
Agrajaggentoo really won't teach you anything. If you want to learn everything, in depth, do LFS02:30
bettong_BOFHwell then go ahead all i have to say is it wasen't my flavor02:30
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rubemNikopol, i have seted up some extra repos, dont know if it is the repos you are thinking02:30
Nikopolrubem, that's where you add the extra repos02:30
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sdalirob_p: check this: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/257102:30
rubemNikopol yes02:30
Agrajagall gentoo teaches you is how to read the instructions they give you, step by step02:30
adjacentEtkinson: use debian or slackware. id suggest slackware if you really want to learn. you will lose your dependence on a package manager02:30
rob_psdali:  You could try manually flushing all the chains and resetting the default policies back to ACCEPT for all built-in chains.  Then have your friend try VNC again.02:30
bettong_BOFHi got frustrated with it and said screw it02:30
Nikopolerm I'll open a dialogue with you so I can see what you have02:30
bettong_BOFHand the next os i tryed was ubuntu02:30
sdalirob_p: I know that works02:30
Nameless12rubem, there is a good tutorial for that at www.ubuntuguide.org (it has all the codecs listed there and there is a repositarys list there if you need it)02:30
Etkinsoni have tried suse, slackware and redhat but i feel blocked with all the major distros from learning02:30
Nameless12rubem, oops wrong paste02:30
rubemok, i'll try it02:30
bettong_BOFHand i haven't tryed anything esle02:30
Etkinsonexcept slakware though.. but it didnt real work for me.02:30
Nameless12im back, and still having problems. i have reinstalled ubuntu this time version 5.04  i have redone my xorg.conf when ubuntu loads my 2nd monitor "powers down" and goes on stand by, i am confused  anyway here is the xorg file http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/257002:30
Etkinsoni'm with ubuntu for 3 months now..02:31
riddleboxEtkinson:do you have wireless?02:31
Etkinsonso for how long do u have ubuntu bettong_BOFH02:31
bettong_BOFHit works outta the box and is better than win xp could ever hope to be02:31
transparentdreamIs there a pcAnywhere like program for Ubuntu?02:31
sdalirob_p: If line 9 of my pastebin says it's open, then why didn't vnc work?02:31
bettong_BOFHi have been running ubuntu for almost 9 monthes now02:31
Etkinsoncool02:32
adjacenttransparentdream: whats pc anywhere? remote desktop?02:32
WhiteRabbittransparentdream, ssh02:32
Etkinsonsince the previous ver i understand?02:32
Nikopolafaik, I talkd to rohal02:32
transparentdreamadjacent, yes, remote desktop02:32
Nikopolhe was fine02:32
WhiteRabbittransparentdream, Although You may want FreeNX02:32
Nikopolnot a troll02:32
adjacenttransparentdream: whats the matter with remote desktop then?02:32
transparentdream...Where is it?02:32
afaikNikopol, "plz tll me why freebsd is grt!?" isn't trolling?02:32
bettong_BOFHi think that ubuntu has a really good chance to compete with windows02:32
afaikheheheh02:33
dooglusadjacent: system -> preferences -> remote desktop02:33
Nikopolafaik, well from my talk with him he wasn't02:33
transparentdream....i found it..02:33
deadcatcrimsun: zd1211 is a 3rd party software. not in the source02:33
Etkinsonahh tell you the truth i dont give a damn about the popularity of any distro..02:33
Nikopolafaik, he was more curious about what makes a distro good02:33
adjacentdooglus: i know02:33
cevizoglubettong_BOFH: a chance?  that's like saying you will consider considering if you're going to think about competing02:33
Etkinsoni think that noone should give a damn.02:33
bettong_BOFHcevizoglu:  huh?02:33
Etkinsonthat's what is so good about opensource, we don't need to worry about these things.02:33
dooglusadjacent: oh, ok.  i meant to tell transparentdream I guess02:33
afaikyeah I know.. his numerous messages to me I didn't respond to kept saying stuff like "Wht makes a distro grt? I think it is speed, like gentoo"02:34
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afaiklol02:34
rob_psdali:  Seems like it should allow pretty much everything.  Either way, it's pretty clear that it's interfering somehow if flushing it fixes things.  I don't have an answer for you at the moment as to why though.02:34
Nikopolafaik, he doesn't use Gentoo apparatnly02:34
crimsundeadcat: erm, no: linux-image-2.6.12-9-686: /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-686/kernel/drivers/usb/net/zd1211/zd1211.ko02:34
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afaikweird02:34
sdalirob_p: Thanks anyway. I'll continue to play and learn.02:34
Etkinsonwhee ha many ppl here!02:34
bettong_BOFHi have not had 1 problem that was worth dumping ubuntu over02:34
crimsundeadcat: like I said, read the changelog to see that Chuck Short applied it02:35
dooglusanyone know what on earth is going on with bug 1148?  It looks like the fixes have been removed, but I can't see any reason given for their removal02:35
Paradoxxany1 know where i can learn to use vi editor02:35
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shekharSeveas, hi, thanks for your help earlier today, i have upgraded to breezy02:35
adjacentParadoxx: vimtutor02:35
sdalivim.org02:35
Nikopolafaik, hey I thought he was windinf us up at the beginnign too ;)02:35
Nameless12im back, and still having problems. i have reinstalled ubuntu this time version 5.04  i have redone my xorg.conf when ubuntu loads my 2nd monitor "powers down" and goes on stand by, i am confused  anyway here is the xorg file http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/257002:35
piercedh20Is it ok to paste my error message in the channel? (3lines)02:35
rob_psdali:  And you're sure it's on the INPUT chain?02:35
Nikopolafaik, I think just the mere mention of Gentoo sets off my alarm bells for flamebait02:35
sdaliAbba-solutely02:35
Paradoxxadjacent: whats that?02:35
doogluspiercedh20: you'll probably get shouted at if you do02:36
dooglus!pastebin02:36
piercedh20Ok, then I won't :)02:36
ubotu[pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl02:36
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Nikopolpiercedh20, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl02:36
sdalipiercedh20: Do it, do it, do it.02:36
chazmanI'm going to get straight to the point since I'm sure I don't have anything to talk about that will interest you all. =P - There are two things that I cannot really find an answer to on the Ubuntu website. The first is if I can actually use (read - try to learn) SELinux in Ubuntu and the second is if I can use an accelerated GL X server. I want the GL server because even with a properly installed ATI driver, gnome really runs02:36
chazman like crap02:36
piercedh20lol02:36
sdali3 line, come on.02:36
sdalilines02:36
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Nikopolhey I won't shout02:37
Nikopoldepends how long the lines are I guess!02:37
JDahlchazman, that's nonsense. You dont need optimized drivers for X or Gnome02:37
sdali piercedh20: Do it, do it, do it. Take the risk.02:37
adjacentNikopol: probably as long as the lines in the "shortest perl program"02:37
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Nikopoladjacent,  mmm ;)02:37
cevizogluit's ok to wonder which distro is better for those that don't feel like installing both, but not here.. offtopic maybe02:37
chazmanJDahl, something is causing the GUI to run slower than Vista Beta 1 does02:38
shekharcan someone help me restore the default system font from hoary in breezy?02:38
rubemanyone know how to make wine play sounds?02:38
dooglusadjacent: the shortest perl program is empty:   perl -e ''02:38
chazmanMandrive is the only distro I've tried where the GUI doesn't make me want to kill02:38
chazmandriva*02:38
doogluschazman: in ubuntu you can xkill02:38
JDahlchazman, installing proprietary ATI wont affect ordinary desktop use02:38
Etkinsonin gentoo, is it realy like compiling everything from scracth?02:39
piercedh20http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2572  <--can someone please help me w/ this RPM issue02:39
piercedh20Not gonna do it sdali ;)02:39
adjacentdooglus: its a reference to perl golf02:39
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chazmanJDhal02:39
chazmanI know02:39
sdalipiercedh20: I did 9 lines last night, and only got one snide remark. ;)02:39
Nikopolpiercedh20, you trying to install the rpm straight?02:39
chazmanAll I really gained was correct 3D Acceleration02:39
piercedh20yeah, with rpm, -i <filename>02:39
chazmanNot that I'll use it in Linux...02:39
piercedh20er RPM -i <filename>02:39
Nikopolpiercedh20, no that won't work02:39
piercedh20oh02:39
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Nikopolpiercedh20, apt-get install alien02:40
robertjfuse got accepted into vanilla right?02:40
piercedh20Im a linux newbie, so please teach me02:40
piercedh20ok02:40
Nikopolpiercedh20, alien the.rpm02:40
Nikopolthen you have a deb piercedh2002:40
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thoreauputicpiercedh20: the error message tells you what to do :)02:40
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Etkinsonbettong_BOFH: do you realy have to compile everything from scratch in gentoo?02:40
rubemanyone can tell me how to run cracked StarCraft on wine????02:40
thoreauputicpiercedh20: alien foo.deb02:40
sdaliNikopol: After you "alien" it, then what do you ddo with the .deb?02:40
thoreauputicoops02:40
bettong_BOFHyea thats the way it works02:40
doogluspiercedh20: you're running "rpm"?02:40
deadcatcrimsun: ok let me check the ppc kernel (=02:40
chazmanPrivate messages blocked...please register - mmmmno02:40
bettong_BOFHvery time consumeing02:40
thoreauputicalien foo.rpm02:40
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bettong_BOFHand it dosen't come with a GUI02:41
piercedh20ok02:41
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Nikopolpiercedh20, dpkg -i the.deb02:41
doogluspiercedh20: you're running "rpm"?02:41
piercedh20Yes02:41
Nikopolpiercedh20, put a sudo before it02:41
Etkinsonbettong_BOFH: so you also compile gcc? heck, you compile the assembler too?!02:41
Trixsey|LaptopAnyone here got time to help me with some java?02:41
thoreauputicpiercedh20: why are you using an rpm?02:41
Nikopolsudo dpkg -i the.deb piercedh2002:41
bettong_BOFHyup02:41
Nikopolactually maybe I should have asked that too02:41
Etkinsonbettong_BOFH: ?! you're sure?!02:41
piercedh20thereauputic, b/c I couldnt get the uncompressed tar.gz to work02:42
chazmanSo what should I do to try and speed the GUI up? Or is it pretty much running as well as it ever will? (XP 3000+, Radeon X800 Pro)02:42
bettong_BOFHas far as i know i had to02:42
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thoreauputicpiercedh20: what are you installing?02:42
piercedh20AIM02:42
bettong_BOFHbut when i tryed gentoo i was so new to linux i diden't fully understand what it was02:42
shekharcould someone help me with some minor issues in breezy02:42
cafuego_You know the precompiled kernel is bloated when a 250Mb / isn't enough to have two of them installed.02:42
Nikopolpiercedh20, AIM?02:42
piercedh20Yes :P02:42
bettong_BOFHall i know is that it involved way to many commands for my taste02:42
thoreauputicpiercedh20: erm - gaim does aim and is already installed02:42
Paradoxxok, i'm looking at a file, now in vi, how do i find out where it is stored?02:42
piercedh20um...hmm02:42
Nikopolpiercedh20, as what thoreau said02:42
Etkinsonbettong_BOFH: because i read a bit in the gentoo website, and they say they do have their packaging system. you compile the packages, but still, you don't start completely from scratch as i understood from their website..02:42
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Nikopolpiercedh20, just do apt-get install gaim02:43
bettong_BOFHthat may very well be02:43
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bettong_BOFHi really don't know02:43
piercedh20ok02:43
thoreauputicpiercedh20: also - use synaptic package manager to install stuff02:43
Etkinsonmm02:43
Agrajagyes, yes you do. You start from a livecd and build EVERYTHING on your system from their package manager02:43
bettong_BOFHi have been using ubuntu ever sence02:43
piercedh20I did, but it didnt come up when I searched for it02:43
JDahlchazman, what's not running well under Gnome? I am running gnome on 1GHz/256MB machine without problems02:43
EtkinsonAgrajag: you tried it ?02:43
thoreauputicpiercedh20: gaim is installed by default02:43
cafuego_chazman: get a card that doesn't require the fglrx driver (ie: nvidia). That'll speed 3D up by a factor 2.02:43
Agrajaggentoo? I used it for almost a year02:43
Nikopolpiercedh20, it may already be installed02:43
AgrajagI got sick of it02:43
Paradoxxhow do i find out where a file i am looking at in vi is stored?02:44
EtkinsonAgrajag: y did u stop?02:44
cevizoglubettong_BOFH: I installed Gentoo over virtual pc once.  it took three weeks to compile KDE02:44
chazmanThe Gnome GUI itself just feels sluggish. Kinda like running Windows XP without a video driver installed. For example, when I move a window around the screen tears.02:44
piercedh20Yes, it said it was already installed02:44
Agrajagnow I use ubuntu so that I don't have to wait hours on end to update anything02:44
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piercedh20But I dont see it on my applications02:44
bettong_BOFHholy crap :-O02:44
piercedh20I feel sooo dumb02:44
Nikopolpiercedh20, mmm02:44
maurycyhow to uninstall openoffice? after dpkg -l | grep openoffice | grep '^ii' | awk '{ print $2 }' | xargs apt-get -y remove, ubuntu still enforces me to install openoffice.02:44
shekharcan someone help me with some minor issues in breezy02:44
Nikopolapp  > internet > GAIM02:44
piercedh20omg I found it02:44
piercedh20So sorry02:44
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Nikopolpiercedh20, hey no problemo02:45
thoreauputicpiercedh20: no worries :)02:45
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piercedh20ok02:45
piercedh20whew02:45
Paradoxxhow do i find out where a file i'm looking at in vim is stored02:45
Nikopolwell you know how to use alien now ;)02:45
piercedh20Yup =)02:45
thoreauputic!tell piercedh20 about docs02:45
EtkinsonAgrajag: from you experience, would you recommend gentoo as a way to, lets say, "be smarter" linux-ly?02:45
Nikopolso it wasn't all a wasted :)02:45
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chazmanPlus, can anyone suggest some IRCds besides Unreal? I want choices in case I get too pissed at Unreal =P02:45
cafuego_maurycy: COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | grep openoffice | grep '^ii' | awk '{ print $2 }' | xargs apt-get -y remove02:45
cevizogluParadoxx: :!pwd02:45
Kenseyhey AstralJava, I got my wireless card working just now!02:45
cafuego_maurycy Note the 'COLUMNS=200'02:45
thoreauputicpiercedh20: browse the page ubotu sent you in pm02:45
piercedh20danke02:45
AgrajagEtkinson: no, not at all02:45
Kenseywith the Ralink Linux drivers02:45
piercedh20will do02:45
chazmancrap02:46
cafuego_chazman: apt-cache search ircd02:46
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AgrajagYou do everything according to step-by-step instructions from their website, which tell you what to do, but not why you're doing it.02:46
AgrajagInstall linux from scratch if you really want to learn how everything works together02:46
maurycycafuego_: no diff. i uninstalled it already, but i've played with kubuntu and am trying to get back to ubuntu-desktop. unfortunatelly i have in home slow gprs bandwith and i can't download a bunch of openoffice packages.02:46
cafuego_Agrajag: That's the thing about gentoo, there is no "why" ;-)02:46
maurycycafuego_: i tried to do the pasted previously command, ubuntu uninstalled openoffice, but still after apt-get install ubuntu-desktop tries to download all these openoffice packages.02:46
Agrajagcafuego: yeah, couldn't stand it after a while02:46
cafuego_maurycy: Uh, ubuntu-desktop includes openoffice02:46
Agrajagwhen I heard about ubuntu, back about last august, I moved to it and neevr changed02:47
dooglusParadoxx: what does control-g show you?02:47
maurycycafuego_: i is it possible to install ubuntu-desktop excluding openoffice? or go back to ubuntu without downloading OOo?02:47
sdaliParadoxx: It is in your current directory, isn't it?02:47
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maurycys/i is/is/02:47
Falstiusubuntu seems to be about the oposite of Gentoo (I run both)02:47
Chazmancafuego_ chazman: get a card that doesn't require the fglrx driver (ie: nvidia). That'll speed 3D up by a factor 2.02:47
_jasonFaithX:  which do you prefer02:47
cafuego_maurycy: no, becase 'ubuntu-desktop' depends on OOo, it will always try to install it.02:47
dooglusParadoxx: hit control g.  if that doesn't show an absolute pathname, do :!pwd to see which directory you're in02:47
ChazmanAs much as I don't like nVidia, I seriously considered that while forcing the ATI driver in.02:47
_jasonFalstius:  which do you prefer?02:48
cafuego_maurycy:  You cna of course install all the packages by hand.02:48
maurycycafuego_: sure. any method to return to pure ubuntu without downloading openoffice?02:48
maurycycafuego_: woah, great.02:48
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cafuego_maurycy: apt-cache show ubuntu-desktop (see list, parse)02:48
Falstius_jason: depends on what I'm doing.  Ubuntu is generally easier, but I've got a very specialized Gentoo setup which I can do things in quickly02:48
thoreauputicguys, for the second time in an hour - you are welcome to discuss gento in #ubuntu-offtopic02:48
cafuego_thoreauputic: Just add a wordkick mate02:48
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DiskgrindCan I have some help with Themes?02:48
signbarni'm getting some problems on my Hoary box when I try to update: mozilla-firefox and mozilla-firefox-gnome-support aren't playing nice02:49
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piercedh20Do any of the linux cd burning sw package convert mp3s to cda for home audio use?02:49
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Agrajagmaurycy: yould try this: in synaptic, tell it to install ubuntu-desktop, it should select all the gnome stuff. Then deselect ubuntu-desktop and all the openoffice stuff02:49
Agrajagand install02:49
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Diskgrindwith the Ubuntu, do I look for GTK 1x or 2x or what???02:49
Agrajager, s/yould/you could/02:49
maurycyAgrajag: i can't run gnome, so i assume that synaptic won't run02:49
ChazmanAlso, I hear that you can use Windows components in conjunction with Wine to gain better compatibility. Has anyone tried this?02:49
Agrajaghuh? you don't even have GTK?02:50
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ChazmanI can't part with Windows (FLStudio, some games) until I get an alternative that will do the job02:50
Agrajagyou could try the same in aptitude or whatever other frontend to apt you have02:50
spermitei hate to bring this up in here, but i can't log on to #debian, but i was wondering how should i partition a 80 gig. just  " /boot /sawp and /root or  "/boot /sawp /root / home?02:50
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Diskgrindwell then what theme types should I look for to use with Ubuntu?02:50
Agrajagor you could do the ugly work yourself, find out what ubuntu-desktop installs and install all of it yourself, minus OO.o02:50
Trixsey|LaptopAnyone got time to help me with a little Java program?02:50
ChazmanI would also like to talk about other stuff instead of just asking questions. Problem is that I don't know what the heck you all talk about...02:51
maurycyAgrajag: exactly. ;> dunno how i did it, but in fact i don't have any wm at the moment. but that's not the problem, i'm playing with apt-get without any frontends and just seems to download packages I wish02:51
Agrajagouch, well aptitude just uses the console, with ncurses02:51
Trixsey|LaptopAnyone got time to help me with a little Java program? I'm getting a bunch of error messages and I dont know how to fix em! If anyone would be kind enough to help and tell me why my solution is wrong.. I'd love that02:51
Agrajagtry installing aptitude and playing with that maybe02:51
maurycyAgrajag: (oh, in fact i know how i did it, i just apt-get removed all evolutions packages not taking too much care of depends ;>)02:52
maurycyAgrajag: thanks for hints anyway02:52
spermite... waiting for feeback..?02:52
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thoreauputicTrixsey|Laptop: don't repeat, please02:53
DiskgrindCan anyone give me help on what kinds of packages to look for when installing themes for Ubuntu?02:53
Trixsey|LaptopI didnt repeat.. I improved :p02:53
spermitei hate to bring this up in here, but i can't log on to #debian, but i was wondering how should i partition a 80 gig. just  " /boot /sawp and /root or  "/boot /sawp /root / home?02:53
locomortoAgrajag: can't you install ubuntu-desktop02:53
locomortoAgrajag: and then unistall that AND openoffice.org?02:54
thoreauputicspermite: separate /home is a good idea02:54
Agrajaglocomorto: he doesn't want to download openoffice.02:54
locomortoAgrajag: ic02:54
ChazmanI always just give Linux installs / and swap partitions. I'd probably give a /home as well when I actually deploy a server.02:54
Etkinsoni wonder what does the community think about kde now?02:54
thoreauputicspermite: /boot isn't really necessary02:54
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ChazmanKDE02:55
|wwi am still trying to find a decent text editor that will syntax highlight more than just either one source/markup at a time02:55
Chazmanhah02:55
Etkinsoni understand that qt is completely gpled now so there is legally no differece with gnome?02:55
locomortoEtkinson: #kubuntu02:55
maurycylw-afk: Vim!!!02:55
ChazmanGnome is slow to me, imagine how I feel in KDE <302:55
maurycy|ww: Vim!!!02:55
TokenBadI typed xkill and by mistake clicked on the desktop thing at the bottom of my screen..so now its gone..how can I get that back so can pick switch between windows?02:55
|wwi might try Vim02:55
|wwlol02:55
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thoreauputicTokenBad: make a new panel, right click, add applets02:55
DaSkreechis there a way to convert a powerpoint presentation to flash?02:55
Agrajaga separate /home is always a good idea, you neevr have to worry about it when installing a new distro or if you need to re-install everything02:55
spermitethoreauputic , dont understand what u mean by separate /home.02:55
tagAnyone use at76c503a or wlan-atmeldriver ?02:55
dooglusTokenBad: you still have a panel at the top?02:56
dooglusTokenBad: if so, right-click on some empty space on it and "new panel"02:56
thoreauputicspermite: a separate partition for /home ?02:56
Etkinsoni don't talk about performance or features. just the license issue.02:56
TokenBadno...no panels at all02:56
Etkinsoni mean, there is no difference comparing how 'free' the two are, right?02:56
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dooglusTokenBad: run "gnome-panel" then I think02:56
spermitethoreauputic yes, so ur saying make a separate partition for /home correct?02:57
thoreauputicTokenBad: then type  gnome-panel02:57
AgrajagEtkinson: I believe qt for linux is QPL, not GPL. I could be wrong.02:57
DaSkreechis there a way to convert a powerpoint presentation to flash without running it through Openoffice02:57
maurycyAgrajag: ok, installed everything. i had all packages, excluding OOo, in the cache, so was quick02:57
Agrajagmaurycy: oh good02:57
ChazmanOh! The other question I had when I came in. Is SELinux even available to Ubuntu right now? All I can find on the site are articles on what SE Linux is and who maintains it, but no "Yes, you can use it now" stuff02:57
thoreauputicspermite: if you want to preserve /home across installations, yes02:57
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spermite=0( i just want normalness02:57
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maurycybtw. is there any method to clean up /etc? i'd like to remove configuration files, which belong to removed packages.02:58
EtkinsonAgrajag: i read that since version 2.2, trolltec released a license option for their Qt, GPL. so now developers chose between QPL and GPL when using their Qt02:58
Paradoxxhas any1 here used the linux version to peer gaurdian?02:58
thoreauputicspermite: define "normalness"02:58
Agrajagoh ok02:58
fmasihi i have some files a frend send me (from win) and when i see them in linux some of the caracter are displaid as ? and at the end of the file name ther is "(invalid encoding)". Whi do I have that ???02:58
tritiummaurycy, purge packages (not just remove them) to clean out their config files as well02:58
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TokenBadI am in KDE02:58
misfit_toydoes anyone else see the issue where the CPU suddenly hit's 99% and stays there? I swear it has to be a gnome issue, cause I've seen it in both hoary and breezy too02:58
maurycytritium: yeah, but i have removed them already. what to do now? :)02:58
thoreauputicspermite: BTW your nick should be changed - some people will find it offensive02:58
tritiummaurycy, purge them as well now.02:59
spermitethoreauputic where everything is running smooth and having no hazzle02:59
ChazmanAw, there goes my idea to change my nick to fartbomb *runs*02:59
thoreauputicChazman: heh :)02:59
maurycytritium: oh, thanks, works :)03:00
TokenBadthoreauputic, I run kde03:00
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thoreauputicmisfit_toy: run " top " in a terminal and see what's eating your CPU03:00
Noobsteralright03:00
misfit_toythoreauputic, that's the problem, it doesn't point it out...03:00
EtkinsonThe issue (or part of the issue) of Qt was that if you wanted to sell your Qt-based product without releasing code, you had to buy Qt from Trolltec. But GPLing doesn't make much difference, you still have to release the code.03:00
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cafuego_misfit_toy: only on amd64 and with 'gam_server' eating as much ram as it can.03:00
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thoreauputicTokenBad: ah - try #kubuntu ?03:01
tritiummaurycy, :)03:01
misfit_toycafuego, yes it's gam_server I bet03:01
EtkinsonI don't speak for myself when I say that I want to keep code for myself (I'm like 'may the code be with you')03:01
doogluscafuego_: I've had that gam_server bug with the 386 kernel too03:01
misfit_toycafuego, but this is a laptop, no amd6403:01
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DaSkreechis there a way to convert a powerpoint presentation to flash without running it through Openoffice03:01
dooglusmisfit_toy: what process it at the top of 'top's list?03:01
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ChazmanI am such a n00b in this OS03:02
misfit_toydooglus, it's not happening right now, it did earlier, but the top of top's list was changing, there was no cpu hog listed03:02
misfit_toyit's like even top doesn't know what the process is03:02
cafuego_Chazman: You're not running gen*, this is the biggest step forward you'll ever make03:02
dooglusmisfit_toy: that is very odd.  whenever I see the CPU maxed out, it's either the gamin bug or the grep bug03:02
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Chazman=P03:02
cafuego_misfit_toy: hit '>' and sort by memory usage.03:02
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deadcatanyone using wireless usb card with zd1211 driver?03:03
misfit_toycafuego, I'll do that next time it happens, thanks03:03
ChazmanThe first Linux distro I ever tried to run was slackware. I don't ever plan on doing that again.03:03
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cafuego_Chazman: it's not that bad. Mind you, back when I staretd it was the *only* distro ;-)03:03
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doogluscafuego_: I was running the SLS distro before slackware was announced03:04
ChazmanO_o03:04
ChazmanDamn03:04
cafuego_libc5 is your friend03:04
ChazmanI'm just trying to get used to another OS. =P03:04
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cafuego_dooglus: We didn't have PCs at that point, only 68020 macs :-(03:04
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aerohi03:04
ChazmanI'd probably get better much faster if I had a real reason to even use Linux right now03:04
aeroubuntu rox03:05
aeroim running it now03:05
aerothat's all, bye :P03:05
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ChazmanSo far, I like Ubuntu more than any of the others I've tried03:05
misfit_toythoreauputic, maybe I'm the only one here who knows what that is...heheh03:05
cafuego_Well, I say :-( but those macs kicked butt, with their GUI :-)03:05
thoreauputicmisfit_toy: ;-)03:05
doogluscafuego_: I was running SLS on a 486-33.03:05
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ChazmanI liked SuSE, but that was way too freaking big03:05
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misfit_toythoreauputic, I was clustering Vaxen back in the day03:06
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ChazmanI didn't get a real computer until 1998 =/03:06
dooglushttp://www.slackware.com/announce/1.0.php is the slackware announcement03:06
cafuego_dooglus: At uni we had labs full of Macs, not intel boxen. We ran a BSD variety called MachTen concurrently under MacOS03:06
doogluswasn't linux intel only in those days?03:06
misfit_toyVAX was still a great super mini03:07
misfit_toyoops, was/is03:07
cafuego_dooglus: By the time they got PCs, they were DX2/66-es, which we plonked SLack on, to run a distributed NFS farm as warez server :-)03:07
misfit_toyI know of some that haven't rebooted in over 10 years03:07
cafuego_dooglus: yep03:07
misfit_toyof course then M$ stole Dave Cutler away from Digital and VMS died and NT was born03:07
afaikVAX was a vaccume cleaner03:07
ChazmanAw, Warez is wrong. You should NEVER illegally download applications *quietly hides the huge mountain of CDs next to his computer*03:07
misfit_toy<hiccup>03:07
Chazman=P03:07
afaikwritten by M$03:07
dooglusthe first time I ever saw the word 'UNIX' was in a VAX manual03:08
afaiker, build by M$03:08
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misfit_toydooglus, :)03:08
afaikThe first time I eer saw the word UNIX was in the Micrsoft Unix System Adminstrator's handbook03:08
HrdwrBoBhaha03:08
dooglusI didn't know what it meant, of course.  It was some mysterious alternative to VMS03:08
misfit_toymy old ex job has a VAX that hasn't been rebooted since I left 9 years ago.03:08
Carpe_LibertatemI have a question. Is there a way I can see the outgoing ports that are open in Ubuntu?03:08
afaikit was called "The Blue Book" by the hacker/phreaker communities03:08
HrdwrBoBCarpe_Libertatem:netstat -a03:09
ChazmanMicrosoft UNIX. There's something you'll never see today03:09
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Carpe_LibertatemHrdwrBoB: doesn't that only show ports that are in use?03:09
afaikwhich then went own to use what they learned from the blue book to inent the company the GNU03:09
afaikand they made a killing from the initial stock offering and retired03:09
afaiker, IPO03:09
HrdwrBoBCarpe_Libertatem: er03:09
misfit_toyCarpe_Libertatem, you mean you want to scan your system and see what ports are open?03:09
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HrdwrBoBCarpe_Libertatem: outgoing ports are only open if they are in use03:10
HrdwrBoBdo you mean incoming?03:10
Carpe_Libertatemmisfit_toy: Yes, for outgoing connections, ie, which ports I can connect to on other machines.03:10
Chazmaneek. I need to firewall this machine03:10
afaikMicrosoft UNIX was well known and well respected for it's customibility... usually the user would get so frustrated they'd tape a fax paper over their monitor and redraw their desktop as they saw fit03:10
HrdwrBoBCarpe_Libertatem: there is no 'firewall'03:10
HrdwrBoBCarpe_Libertatem: you can connect to anything03:10
cafuego_Chazman: Yes, but then again, we were poor students and couldn't afford anything back in '94 ;-)03:10
Carpe_LibertatemHrdwrBoB: There is on these machines :-P03:10
HrdwrBoBCarpe_Libertatem: well them you have added it03:10
misfit_toyCarpe_Libertatem, iptraf is a good tool to look at network traffic/ports/etc...03:11
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HrdwrBoBand by the same token you should be able to view it03:11
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Chazmancafuego: Well, thanks to Bush, that still applies today. =P03:11
Carpe_LibertatemHrdwrBoB: I didn't, someone else did. :-P03:11
afaikMicrosoft Unix was well know for the secure built in firewall and it's inability to be infected by viruses, long a problem with the more widely used OS of the time called Linux03:11
robertjis fuse in the breezy kernel?03:11
HrdwrBoBCarpe_Libertatem: then talk to them03:11
Carpe_Libertatemmisfit_toy: iptraf, eh? That can scan ports that can potentially be used even if they're not in use?03:11
HrdwrBoBCarpe_Libertatem: no, it can't03:12
misfit_toyCarpe_Libertatem, it does a ton of stuff, I can't recall what though03:12
cafuego_Chazman: yes, I have a slightly different view on it myself. I find try-before-you-buy or warez-for-non-commercial use acceptable.03:12
afaikLinux finally went under though in 1988 when Linux Incorporated was forced to close it's doors over large debts, bankruptcy, and accusations of scheming plots by its top management03:12
Carpe_LibertatemHrdwrBoB: Is there an program that can?03:12
Carpe_Libertatemany*03:12
misfit_toyCarpe_Libertatem, you should hit the gibson research page and have it scan you03:12
Carpe_Libertatemmisfit_toy: that will scan for incoming ports03:12
HrdwrBoBCarpe_Libertatem: you really don't understand what you are playing with03:12
afaikAlthough these days some say linux is coming back, distributed through may pirated copies transmitted over warez channels03:12
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dooglusrobertj: $ grep CONFIG_FUSE /boot/config-2.6.12-9-68603:12
dooglusCONFIG_FUSE=m03:12
Carpe_LibertatemHrdwrBoB: I don't?03:12
HrdwrBoBCarpe_Libertatem: you need to do more research on how connections work03:12
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Chazmancafuego_: I was just messing with you =P I don't mind warez at all for try-before-you-buy purposes. In some cases I just don't mind warez at all.03:12
HrdwrBoBCarpe_Libertatem: in order to make a connection on a port externally there has to be something listening03:13
Carpe_LibertatemHrdwrBoB: Right.03:13
dooglusrobertj: I guess that's a "yes, as a module"03:13
HrdwrBoByou can't magically tell what ports or services have been firewalled03:13
afaikChazman, warez the warez, d00dz?03:13
Chazmanlawl03:13
misfit_toyCarpe_Libertatem, https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd203:13
HrdwrBoBbecause the firewall can do *anything* it wants to your packets03:13
robertjdooglus: is the modue packagd?03:13
HrdwrBoBthough you most likely want 'nmap'03:13
cafuego_Chazman: I have an issue with epope, using warez to make a living. notable exception being WIndows. Such shit shouldn't be paid for ;-)03:13
afaikI suffered 3rd degree burns from my  firewall... let the user beware03:13
Chazman<303:13
Carpe_LibertatemOk, I guess I'll have to setup a machine with a huge range of ports open.03:14
misfit_toyHrdwrBoB, I wasn't going to throw nmap to someone that doesn't know what they're doing, but oh well! lol03:14
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ChazmanI don't support buying Microsoft products or anything backed by the MP/RIAA03:14
ChazmanIf you want it that badly, pirate it. Just don't support them03:14
HrdwrBoBCarpe_Libertatem: that's *not* the way to do it03:14
misfit_toysheesh03:14
Carpe_LibertatemWhy not?03:14
HrdwrBoBCarpe_Libertatem: you really need to understand what you're doing03:14
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tritiumChazman, that's not appropriate here03:14
misfit_toyCarpe_Libertatem, what are you trying to accomplish?03:14
Chazmank03:14
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dooglusrobertj: yes.03:15
misfit_toyCarpe_Libertatem, if you want a box with a ton of ports open then just install XP03:15
Carpe_Libertatemmisfit_toy: I want to see what outgoing ports are open on a certain machine as a security test.03:15
robertjdooglus: hrmm03:15
dooglusrobertj: although: $ apt-file search 686/kernel/fs/fuse/fuse.ko linux-image-2.6.12-8-686: lib/modules/2.6.12-8-686/kernel/fs/fuse/fuse.ko03:15
thoreauputicCarpe_Libertatem: unless a service is running, the port won't be relevant or "open"03:15
misfit_toyCarpe_Libertatem, you don't understand... ingoing/outgoing....03:15
dooglusrobertj: that makes it look like it's not in the most recent kernel...03:15
dooglus(2.6.12-9)03:15
thoreauputicCarpe_Libertatem: I think as others have said, you are confused03:16
Carpe_Libertatemmisfit_toy: What do you call it, then, if I want to see if someone can use port 5198 to login to a remote AIM server?03:16
joetheoddHey, who runs the bot?03:16
tristanmikethe bot runs the bot03:16
ChazmanOh I love what google has become. I search for a Linux firewall and get nothing but garbage returns. Same story with everything...03:16
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Burandirohi03:17
ChazmanHowdy03:17
misfit_toyCarpe_Libertatem, "someone" on "what" running what OS, with what permissions, etc...03:17
tristanmikeor a little elf shoved in a drawer somewhere typing responses for everyone 24-7, no actually it's a staff of elves03:17
tritiumjoetheodd, cafuego03:17
test34-Chazman, I get some revelant results03:17
joetheoddcafuego, are you there?03:17
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ChazmanFirestarter03:17
paxVint Cerf works at google now, forget 'the search engine' Chazman03:17
ChazmanLovely name03:17
Carpe_Libertatemmisfit_toy: It's the firewall that is SUPPOSED to be blocking it. I want to VERIFY :-P03:17
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vader1102Chazman, have you tried "linux firewall"03:18
ChazmanVint Cerf....oooook03:18
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Chazmanthat's exactly what I typed it03:18
BROKEN_LADDERhow can i find the device name for my digital camera?03:18
joetheoddIf it wouldn't be too much trouble, someone might want to add http://www.javaop.com/uploads/guest/winecvs.html to the bot under wine.03:18
misfit_toyCarpe_Libertatem, then try to telnet to that port on the AIM server03:18
afaikhttp://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Steve_Ballmer03:18
Carpe_Libertatemmisfit_toy: It's not that one port.03:18
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BurandiroComo vai03:18
ChazmanI found one called Firestarter that looks to be worth a try03:18
vader1102I got some decent returns03:18
misfit_toyCarpe_Libertatem, please read up on basic networking.03:19
tritiumprobably not, joetheodd03:19
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Burandirohow are you03:19
Carpe_Libertatemmisfit_toy: Thanks a lot. :-P03:20
Burandirowellingtonbcastro@hotmail.com03:20
Chazman We strongly believe that your job is to make the high level security policy decisions and ours is to take care of the underlying details. This is a departure from your typical Linux firewall, which has traditionally required arcane implementation specific knowledge03:20
Chazman<303:20
BROKEN_LADDERhotmail!?03:20
BROKEN_LADDERcan someone tell me how to find out what the device name is for an item that i can see in lsusb?03:20
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ChazmanHey! Don't dis hotmail. It's an excellent spam dump =P03:21
ChazmanHowever, I use Yahoo for that03:21
HrdwrBoBBROKEN_LADDER: google for the device ID03:21
misfit_toyCarpe_Libertatem, I'm not trying to blow you off, but you really don't seem to understand how things work and it would take all night to figure out what in the world you're doing.03:21
Carpe_Libertatemmisfit_toy: What do you think I do not understand? Would my idea of pinging a range of ports on a machine with open ports not work?03:22
BROKEN_LADDERHrdwrBoB bizarre.03:22
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HrdwrBoBBROKEN_LADDER: no, not even remotely bizarre03:22
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HrdwrBoBCarpe_Libertatem: ping is icmp and doesn't use ports03:22
ChazmanOff I go to accidently crash the system03:22
misfit_toyCarpe_Libertatem, pinging ports?03:22
BROKEN_LADDERHrdwrBoB your telling me that i can plug a device in, and it can be assigned a node, but there's no way to see which nodes are assigned to which devices on my system?03:22
HrdwrBoBCarpe_Libertatem: and if you are testing a specific range, then yes03:22
BROKEN_LADDERHrdwrBoB that's bizarre.03:22
Carpe_Libertatemmisfit_toy: yes, say, nmap -p range mycomputerip03:23
thoreauputicCarpe_Libertatem: perhaps the problem is the way you ask questions - it isn't clear what you mean03:23
dooglusCarpe_Libertatem: you can use whatever outgoing ports you like.03:23
HrdwrBoBBROKEN_LADDER: oooh, the device file in /dev03:23
rob_pmisfit_toy:  I think he wants to test the egress filtering of his firewall to make sure it's doing it's job.  At least that's what I gather.03:23
HrdwrBoBBROKEN_LADDER: not the actual device name03:23
dooglusCarpe_Libertatem: it's incoming ports that are the security risk03:23
Burandirotem algum Brasileiro03:23
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HrdwrBoBCarpe_Libertatem: outgoing port filtering is mostly annoying and pointless03:23
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dooglusCarpe_Libertatem: you don't ping ports...03:23
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BROKEN_LADDERHrdwrBoB yeah, that's what i mean.03:24
rob_pBurgerMann:  Vc pode encontrar Brasileiros em #ubuntu-br eu acho...03:24
BROKEN_LADDERHrdwrBoB Bus 002 Device 003: ID 04a9:30f9 Canon, Inc.03:24
Carpe_Libertatemdooglus: Scan? :-P03:24
HrdwrBoBBROKEN_LADDER: look in dmesg03:24
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dooglusCarpe_Libertatem: you can scan ports, yeah03:24
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dooglusCarpe_Libertatem: port scanning tells you which ports a box is listening on03:25
BROKEN_LADDERHrdwrBoB i did look in dmesg.03:25
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dooglusCarpe_Libertatem: you probably don't want your box to be listening on any ports, generally, unless it's acting as a server03:25
chris__hi everbody...03:25
dooglushi chris__03:25
rob_pBurgerMann:  Ignore me... the user that was intended for abruptly left before I could hit enter!03:25
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Carpe_Libertatemdooglus: I know, but I want to see which ports I can access from a machine with filitered outgoing ports.03:25
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Carpe_LibertatemI'd just run it on a live CD.03:26
HrdwrBoBBROKEN_LADDER: if you have a standard ubuntu system it should automatically load and mount03:26
Carpe_LibertatemSo my system wouldn't get messed-up.03:26
BROKEN_LADDERusb 2-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 403:26
BROKEN_LADDERi havy hoary.03:26
BROKEN_LADDERwhere would it load an mount?03:26
thoreauputicchris__: if you know debian, you won't have any trouble with Ubuntu03:26
chris__i read that the w32codecs are actually not available from the hoary-extras sources03:26
HrdwrBoBBROKEN_LADDER: it would mount under /media03:26
oliI jsut re-installed ubuntu hoary, and i have some passwords/account problem , at first login screen after install, it seemed like my  username did not exist, i went in consol to check it, indeed it wasnt here, ltough i created it at the install...    i then Re-created it, so i can logon as user, but once in gnome i cannot sudo anything it says :  'username' is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.03:26
HrdwrBoBBROKEN_LADDER: the device is most likely /dev/sda103:26
thoreauputicchris__: correct - they were pulled for legal reasons03:26
dooglusCarpe_Libertatem: you don't get to specify which outgoing port gets used.  if you want to connect to port 80 on a remote machine (the http port), it doesn't use port 80 on your box to make the connection03:27
chris__okay... i also read i should ask here for some "links" ;)03:27
oliherlpp03:27
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BROKEN_LADDERbob: /dev/s* = scd0     sg0      shm/     snd/     sndstat  sr0      stderr   stdin    stdout03:27
esacslightly offtopic. anybody know of a setting anywhere where if i have firefox open and i go to open firefox again, it just pops up the already running instance ?03:27
HrdwrBoBBROKEN_LADDER: then it doesn't03:27
thoreauputic!tell chris__ about w32codecs03:28
HrdwrBoBBROKEN_LADDER: what is it03:28
BROKEN_LADDERa canon digital camera.03:28
dooglus!tell me about w32codecs too03:28
Falstiushow about playing realmedia files (with AMD64)?03:28
dooglus!tell me about w32codecs03:28
oliI really need help here03:28
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tristanmike!tell tristanmike about w32codes03:28
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tristanmike!tell tristanmike about w32codecs03:29
renjiiisnt that clearly explained at www.ubuntuguide.org ?03:29
BROKEN_LADDERHrdwrBoB i'm sad.03:29
tristanmikethoreauputic, thank you ;)03:29
thoreauputicBTW /msg ubotu <foo> works03:29
chris__is it? I'll have a look03:29
esacguys, please /msg ubotu w32codecs    ... or any other keyword03:29
Falstiusoli, edit the sudoers file .. did you set a root password or is there another account?03:29
renjiihttp://www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs03:29
tristanmike!tell renjii about ubuntuguide03:29
BROKEN_LADDERHrdwrBoB do you have any other advice?03:30
chris__that info is out of date i fear03:30
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thoreauputicrenjii: please don't recommend ubuntuguide any more - it's out of date nad we have to deal with the consequences03:30
HrdwrBoBBROKEN_LADDER: paste the dmesg output onto pastebin03:30
renjiithoreauputic - my mistake.03:30
oliFalstius i have a root password, and a user account created in the consol at startup...  when i try to sudo it just dont work as i said, i dont know why, its a fresh install, shouldnt be bugs in here03:30
BROKEN_LADDERHrdwrBoB how about #flood03:30
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tristanmikeLike WTF is my firefox broken???03:30
HrdwrBoBhow about pastebin03:31
d2dchathow do i get photoshop to run on linux?03:31
d2dchatoff of my windows hd?03:31
thoreauputicchris__: the info the bot gave you? Should be OK I think03:31
BROKEN_LADDERHrdwrBoB here it is: usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4 <newine> usb 2-2: USB disconnect, address 403:31
HrdwrBoBd2dchat: you don't, in general03:31
Falstiusoli, vi /etc/sudoers and add your name there (you can copy the line for root and just replace root with your name)03:31
dooglusoli: can you log in as root from a vc?03:31
d2dchatHrdwrBoB, haha, i heard you could03:31
sproingied2dchat: direct off your windows hd?  not going to happen.  you can install it under wine03:31
d2dchatsproingie, I have an illegal copy, do you think i could run the iso on linux and install it?03:31
d2dchatlol03:31
HrdwrBoBd2dchat: you probably can, but in most cases The GIMP will suffice03:31
d2dchatHrdwrBoB, I dont like the gimp03:32
chris__thoreauputic: mh i guessed that !tell is some kind of command, but i didn't get a bot message about w32codecs03:32
HrdwrBoBd2dchat: why03:32
sproingied2dchat: i imagine your warezed copy will do fine on linux as well03:32
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d2dchatHrdwrBoB, not familiar with it03:32
thoreauputicchris__: should be in your pm /msg window03:32
HrdwrBoBso you dismiss it offhand?03:32
d2dchatHrdwrBoB, Ive spent  housr on it and cant do what i can do in ps03:32
chris__!tell chris__ about w32codecs03:32
d2dchatHrdwrBoB, no, i honestly tried for a long time lol03:33
HrdwrBoBheh03:33
d2dchatHrdwrBoB, I can just do a lot more with PS03:33
oliDooglus when i Sudo -s  after the password it keeps saying 'username'  is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.03:33
HrdwrBoBd2dchat: did you pay for PS?03:33
d2dchatHrdwrBoB, I really wanted to use GIMP as a replacement03:33
chris__ok lets find that windows in "x-chat" (first time i use that)03:33
dooglusoli: try logging in as root from a vc.03:33
BROKEN_LADDERHrdwrBoB did those two lines tell you anything?03:33
sproingieHrdwrBoB: he just said he warezed it03:33
dooglusvirtual console03:33
d2dchatHrdwrBoB, read my convo with sproingie ;)03:33
chris__got it03:33
HrdwrBoBspo0nman: ah03:33
oliwhat do you mean by 'vc'03:33
dooglusvirtual console03:33
HrdwrBoBd2dchat: then you don't get help with it :)03:33
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d2dchatHrdwrBoB, hehehe03:33
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FalstiusI didn't pay for ubuntu ;)03:34
oliand Falstiux , i cannot edit it, its refused03:34
HrdwrBoBit's not fair to compare a very expensive product you (effectively) stole03:34
dooglushold control and alt and press F1.  do alt-f7 to get back to GNOME03:34
d2dchatFalstius, Indeed!:)03:34
HrdwrBoBand a freely available product you have and can use legitimately03:34
olidooglus, yes from there i can log on as rot03:34
d2dchatHrdwrBoB, I really wanted GIMP to be a replacement for Photoshop, but at the moment its not03:34
oliroot03:34
Falstiusoli, it is write protected.  In vi you would save it with :wq!03:34
misfit_toyubuntu is free??? damn, that guy on the corner said I was getting a good deal at half XP prices03:34
HrdwrBoBd2dchat: in some ways it is and in some ways it isn't03:34
dooglusoli: as your user, in a terminal, type "groups".  what do you see?03:34
tristanmikemisfit_toy, lol03:34
HrdwrBoBmisfit_toy: yes, and I've made a MINT03:34
sproingieHrdwrBoB: software-wise, it's a reasonable comparison.  i just don't find gimp very stable, but i run it on win3203:35
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Falstiusin other programs .. chmod +w /etc/sudoers03:35
olidooglus , juste my username03:35
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Falstiusthen chmod -w when finished.03:35
d2dchatHrdwrBoB, When it is, I can be legal;)03:35
misfit_toy*gimme my money back* oh wait, I like it enough to pay anyway03:35
dooglusoli, so in a VC, as root, run "adduser oli adm"03:35
dooglusand "adduser oli admin"03:35
HrdwrBoBsproingie: yeah I don't bother with win32 for applications, but it fits the bill in linux03:35
dooglusto add yourself to the admin groups03:35
BROKEN_LADDERHrdwrBoB ??03:36
sproingieHrdwrBoB: i know little enough about graphics production that i'm equally lost in gimp and ps03:36
d2dchatHrdwrBoB, PS is the only program I would consider running from windows to linux03:36
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misfit_toysproingie, if you are used to photoshop you might like 'gimp-shop', its a plugin that changes all the gimp menus to match photoshop03:36
HrdwrBoBBROKEN_LADDER: that shows you connected it and disconnected it03:36
d2dchatmisfit_toy, does it also change the layer modifications?03:36
HrdwrBoBBROKEN_LADDER: that's all03:36
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BROKEN_LADDERHrdwrBoB that's all that's in dmesg about it.03:36
d2dchatmisfit_toy, I like how photoshop lets you modify each layer's attributs03:36
misfit_toyd2dchat, just the menus as far as I know03:36
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d2dchatmisfit_toy, bummer:(03:37
BROKEN_LADDERdoh!03:37
BROKEN_LADDERsr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 40x/40x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray03:37
misfit_toyd2dchat, give it a shot and tell us ;)03:37
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d2dchathaha ok, hold on03:37
misfit_toydammit that WhiteRabbit has followed me here!03:37
misfit_toyheheh03:37
HrdwrBoBBROKEN_LADDER: paste the whole of dmesg and I will tell you03:37
WhiteRabbitI was here first!03:37
WhiteRabbitlol03:37
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misfit_toyabsinth03:37
sdalirob_p, crimsun: Firestarter had configured the firewall for me. Thanks again for the help.03:37
WhiteRabbithey now hey hey03:37
misfit_toysheesh03:37
misfit_toylol03:38
WhiteRabbitgive it back03:38
misfit_toygimme that cigar03:38
WhiteRabbittrade you a cigar for that sexy bottle of green03:38
misfit_toytruce/trade03:38
rob_psdali:  Cool!  Glad you figured it out!03:38
_jasonIf I want to setup SSH on ubuntu should I setup the firewall?03:38
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misfit_toyWhiteRabbit, so you be's running ubuntu now?03:38
Entrancedhey all... I'm running breezy and I wanted to get web clips/moves to play in firefox.. I have installed mplayer and the plugin for mozilla as well.. the thing is where are the w32codecs ?03:38
WhiteRabbit_jason, na just give out public access!03:38
d2dchatmisfit_toy, cant find gimp-shop03:39
_jasonWhiteRabbit:  lol...03:39
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d2dchatmisfit_toy, in spm03:39
_jasonWhiteRabbit:  won't the password be enough?03:39
_jason!tell Entranced about restricted03:39
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xuniluseri have a problem with acroread. have you guys experienced it also. i thinks there's an error in the .deb03:39
rob_p_jason:  probably not necessary since you'll just be turning around and opening that port.  The exception would be if you want to limit incoming connections to a particular IP address or range, etc.03:39
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misfit_toyd2dchat, yeah you'll have to install it http://freshmeat.net/projects/gimpshop/03:39
_jasonrob_p:  I see, thanks03:40
misfit_toyhttp://plasticbugs.com/index.php?p=24103:40
Entrancedthnx _jason03:40
navynis there a kubuntu room?03:40
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WhiteRabbit_jason, also setup Protocol 2 & PermitRootLogin no & StrictModes yes & PasswordAuthentication yes & PermitEmptyPasswords no & X11Forwarding no If no freenx :( & PrintMotd no03:40
thoreauputicnavyn: yup03:40
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thoreauputicnavyn: /join #kubuntu03:40
WhiteRabbit_jason, it's upto who you're protecting your box from03:40
navynthanks!03:40
WhiteRabbitmisfit_toy, I broke off a nibble to chew on03:40
WhiteRabbityummy03:40
_jasonWhiteRabbit:  yeah, I guess it's better to setup the firewall... it won't hurt any03:41
misfit_toyoh great03:41
misfit_toy;p03:41
BROKEN_LADDERHrdwrBoB http://pastebin.com/375275 <-- thank you.03:41
misfit_toybiab, after cutting the end of this stogie03:41
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navynnobody is talking in that room03:42
d2dchatmisfit_toy, which shoul di get? rpm or tar?03:42
jorgp3anyone else getting unsolved symbols issue with 2.6.12-9 breezy kernel when trying to load madwifi driver?03:42
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olidooglus, i did adduser oli adm, but   for adduser oli admin, its saying that the 'admin' group does not exist03:43
navyncan anyone in this room, help me with a kubuntu issue, or is this just for ubuntu?03:43
BicchiWhat is the difference from booting into: "Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.10-5-amd64-generic Default"    and    "Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.10-5-amd64-generic"03:43
thoreauputicnavyn: just state the problem clearly - if someone can help they will03:43
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olii cannot login as root from Gnome, please help :|03:44
navynwhenever i log into kde, i get an error saying Cannot start process, cannot talk to klauncher03:45
bimberioli: do you need to?  use sudo for superuser access03:45
thoreauputicoli: are you running hoary? ( 5.04)03:45
navynnobody in kubuntu is talking03:45
thoreauputicnavyn: you haven't waited long :)03:45
oliyes ; hoary, and i mean by that that SUDO doesnt work03:45
brad[] navyn: Go ahead and ask here - what's the issue you're having?03:45
navynno i mean no one is talking at all in the whole room03:45
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navynwhenever i log into kde, i get an error saying Cannot start process, cannot talk to klauncher03:46
thoreauputicnavyn: as I said , you only waited a few minutes03:46
bimberioli: ignore me, just scrolled back and read up :)03:46
olibimberi ???03:46
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navynusually someone is at least saying something.03:46
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olididnt see nothing from u beside using sudo, wich wont work (hence my problem)03:46
thoreauputicnavyn: *sigh* patience grasshopper03:46
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SpaceBassare there any other decent exchange clients besides evoloution?03:47
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tagwhat's the name of that kernel module that lets you load windows wnet drivers?03:47
tambaqui:)03:47
brad[] SpaceBass: No03:47
SpaceBassdamn03:47
SpaceBassthats my killer app...03:47
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SpaceBassthat and itunes, which looks like it might run under codewevers03:48
brad[] SpaceBass: Mine too ;) It working for you?03:48
delltonyhi question my aunt i set up ppp for her on hoary a while back and for the life of me i forgot how i did it and well needless to say she gets no dialtone anyone have any knowledge of the "grannynet" dialup and maybe know what command to type for i have forgotten :( i thought it was pppconfig to configure it and like ppd to dial or something to that effect03:48
macintoshrhow do i make an lss file for a boot graphic?03:48
bimberioli: i meant i wasn't up to date with your issues because i'd been away from my irc client for a while - so ignore that reply03:48
SpaceBassbrad[] :  :) just cannot fiind anything better than outlook, despite its faults...03:48
oliok03:48
thoreauputicdelltony:  sudo pppconfig to configure - pon/poff for connections03:48
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brad[] SpaceBass: Yeah Outlook is quite nice. I'm looking forward to crossover office 5 which will be able to run the latest version of it, although Evolution is improving version by version03:49
SpaceBassbrad[] : been trying a new distro a day and so far liking ubutnu... but I havent tried the codewevers thing on it yet... it did work on fedora core 4 though03:49
olii Still need help : i need to be able to logon in SUDO ... :| please03:49
delltonyok so its pon <bellsouth> or whatever right?03:49
rob_ptag:  could it be ndiswrapper?03:49
thoreauputicdelltony: make sure th euser is in the dip and dialout groups03:50
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SpaceBassyeah, crossover office 5 might be the key for me... evoloution is an admirable effort and similar to entourage on os x... but still not 100% there03:50
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brad[] SpaceBass: Let me know if you get Evo+Exchange working in Ubuntu, I had some trouble with it03:50
olior else i'll just reinstall it and hopes it wont do that 2 times..03:50
bimberioli: do you have root access?03:50
delltonyyeah it should have already been setup her power went out and she restarted and got this issue03:50
dooglusoli: this is solvable...  just a second...03:50
olibimberi, only in Vc03:50
thoreauputicdelltony: if you defined the provider, yes03:50
SpaceBassbrad[] : I got it to check and send mail no problem... no calenders or contacts thought03:50
bimberioli: Vc?03:50
delltonyi was thinking some kinda module needed to be probed cause its a winmodem03:50
dooglusoli: as root, look at /etc/sudoers03:50
oli'consol terminal'03:50
bimberiah03:50
brad[] SpaceBass: Hrm03:50
oliok03:50
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SpaceBassbrad[] :  what problems were you having?03:51
thoreauputicdelltony: ah a winmodem :((03:51
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dooglusoli: don't you see something like this at the end:03:51
dooglus# Members of the admin group may gain root privileges03:51
dooglus%admin  ALL=(ALL) ALL03:51
dooglus?03:51
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SpudDogganyone know the package i need to install to play mp3s?03:51
brad[] SpaceBass: If I configure it through the Exchange connector it just locks up Evolution03:51
delltonyyeah i got hosed all around on that but she needed a pc and i just set it up with hoary and said be done with it :)03:51
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SpaceBassmy new challenge is joining my active directory domain... and then getting nautlius to work with kerberos03:51
foampeaceis there some kind of impulse tracker in the repositories?03:51
thoreauputic!tell SpudDogg about mp303:51
SpaceBassbrad[] :  odd... using an ssl cert with your exchange server? IE https?03:51
delltonyi'm guessing i need to run dmesg or whatever on it and see what the modem is03:52
FhaeTonamazing I have this great machines and no brains to get the install working03:52
delltonyand them modprobe it if needed03:52
BROKEN_LADDERHrdwrBoB did that dmesg help?03:52
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olidooglus when i try to access etc/sudoers  i have a 'permission denied' even as root03:52
BROKEN_LADDERanyone in here ever get a canon digital camera working in ubuntu?03:52
delltonyi thought i had set it up to do all that but i guess not :( anyway thats for the pon poff ill give it a shot03:52
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HrdwrBoBBROKEN_LADDER: ok looking now03:52
dooglusoli, no, really?  root doesn't get 'permission denied'!03:52
thoreauputicdelltony: http://linmodems.org and get the script and pray a lot to $DEITY03:52
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BROKEN_LADDERHrdwrBoB thanks dude.03:52
dooglusoli: you sure you're root?03:52
delltonyhaha03:52
brad[] SpaceBass: Using SSL yes03:52
bimberioli: what about the "visudo" command (as root)03:53
SpaceBassbrad[] :  self signed cert?03:53
Falstiussudoers doesn't have write set for anyone, even root03:53
brad[] SpaceBass: I narrowed it down to GAL issues; using a newer version of the connector it's working great03:53
oliyeap i'm sure, double checked.03:53
HrdwrBoBBROKEN_LADDER: is there something wrong with your hotplug?03:53
SpaceBassbrad[] :  oh, thats good then....03:53
BROKEN_LADDERHrdwrBoB uh...i dunno.  how would i check?03:53
delltonyyeah i have been using kpp for the longest and it worked fine i honestly think it didn't initialize or something03:53
dooglusFalstius: firstly, he's trying to read it, and secondly, root doesn't need write permission to write to files03:53
brad[] SpaceBass: Unfortunately I can't upgrade the connector in Ubuntu without great pains :(03:53
delltonyand being i'm not at her house its hard to say whats wrong with it03:53
SpaceBassbrad[] :  tried synaptic or apt-get?03:54
olibimberi ; visudo does open something03:54
SpaceBassthats how I did it with 5.4 today03:54
delltonyanyway thank03:54
brad[] SpaceBass: What version did it pull in?03:54
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HrdwrBoBBROKEN_LADDER: try loading usb-storage and sd_mod  modules03:54
SpudDoggthoreauputic, there was 1 package I had to install before...do you happen to know what it is?03:54
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SpaceBassid have to check and I'm booted into xp on that box now... but it said it was the latest03:54
dooglusoli: you're looking for the line which begins with a '%'03:54
brad[] oh hrmm ok03:54
SpaceBassusing ubuntu repositiories03:54
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SpaceBassspeaking of apt-get will a distro-upgrade take 5.4 to 5.10?03:55
thoreauputicSpudDogg: to play mp3 in music player (rhtyhmbox) - install gstreamer0.8-mad03:55
sproingiewhat was 5.4?  warty?03:55
dooglusSpaceBass: yes.03:55
SpudDoggahh...thanks03:55
oliI dont have any line starting with %03:55
SpaceBasssproingie: great, thanks!03:55
bimberioli: is yours a hoary install or an upgrade from warty?03:55
sproingieSpaceBass: thank dooglus03:55
bimberisproingie: 5.04 is hoary03:55
oliinstall from a fresh printed cd..03:55
SpaceBassanyone joined ubuntu to a active directory domain?03:55
dooglusoli: which CD?03:55
bimberioli: k03:56
SpaceBassoops... thanksed the wrong person... thanks dooglus03:56
sproingiebimberi: ah.  funny thing about debian and ubuntu both, i never even think of version numbers03:56
bimberisproingie: you too :)03:56
dooglusSpaceBass: all you need to do is edit /etc/apt/sources.list, replace 'hoary' with 'breezy' and do a dist-upgrade03:56
lgcHello all from Mexico! Will anyone direct me to the Breezy Install Page? (I got the ISO images. Now what?)03:56
fadumptload the disc into your system and go at it :)03:57
BROKEN_LADDERHrdwrBoB okay i looaded those modules successfully.03:57
sproingielgc: burn the image, stick the cd in your drive, reboot03:57
olii just re-installed it, because the breezy preview ***ed all my things , but now i need to retweak my linux...and its kinda hard without sudo (..)03:57
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lgcThanks, fadumpt and sproingie , but nothing happens that way!03:57
fadumptset your mobo bios03:57
dooglusoli: so in the VC, run "visudo" and stick a new line at the end, saying:03:57
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fadumptpress Del or F1 at boot up03:58
lgcHow is that?03:58
fadumptget into your BIOS and set it to boot from CDROM first, then hard drive03:58
sproingielgc: if you stick the cd in the drive and show the contents, how many files are on it?03:58
dooglusoli:    %adm ALL=(ALL) ALL03:58
thoreauputiclgc: did you burn the ISO as an image?03:58
dooglusoli: that means "let everyone in the 'adm' group do anything"03:58
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thoreauputicsproingie: great minds ;)03:58
lgcsproingie, it has somewhere around 1700 files.03:58
sproingiethoreauputic: just the most frequent burn problem i think03:58
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olii have  'root ALL=(ALL) ALL' at the end for now03:59
thoreauputicsproingie: yes03:59
fadumptlgc, you probably have to tell it to boot from CDROM first03:59
lgcsproingie, the BIOS is set up to boot from CD.03:59
dooglusoli: that means root's allowed to run sudo...  not too helpful.03:59
fadumptit's probably bypassing your cdrom and booting from your hard drive03:59
sproingiethoreauputic: i think cd burning programs should detect when you're burning a single .iso as a data project and pop up a big warning asking if that's what you *really* want03:59
fadumptoh03:59
dooglusoli: add the line I told you too03:59
oliok03:59
sproingielgc: and it doesn't boot?  did you verify the burn?03:59
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scanwinderwhat processes need to be loaded for OSS(open sound system) to work?03:59
thoreauputicsproingie: it is mostly a Windows problem afaics03:59
lgcHow can I the verify the burn, sproingie?04:00
olitrivial question : but how do i save and quit ? (in visudo)04:00
dooglusoli: it's written at the bottom of the screen04:00
dooglus^O is write, ^X is exit04:00
dooglus^ is control...04:01
sproingielgc: md5sum verification should be a feature of the burning program.  if it's not apparent, it might not support it04:01
thoreauputicoli: ctrl-x , say yes04:01
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lgcI made the burn with the program included with Hoary.04:02
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sproingielgc: most good burning programs will show the sum when you stick the disc in.  just compare that against the one that's on the CD.  if they don't match, you burnt a coaster04:02
hondjeanyone running breezy want to test something for me04:02
EntrancedAny ideas why the movie clips start playing and then stop very shortly after ?04:02
Entrancedin Firefox04:02
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dooglusoli: incidentally, you can use "su" to become root in a terminal window, since you have a root password...04:02
oliok... seems to work, though when i sudo -s in terminal under my username, it switch to root without asking for password04:02
pschulz01I'm looking to mount USB drive under Hoary. It doesn't com up automatically.04:03
sproingieoli: if you did a sudo recently it won't ask again for a while04:03
BROKEN_LADDERHrdwrBoB after loading those modules, what should i do?04:03
dooglusoli: it remembers your password for <some> minutes04:03
oliok..04:03
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olinever saw that in my last install... nyway04:03
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olithankx a lot..04:03
afaikI have a lot of processes of /usr/lib/gconf2/gconfd-2 14 running04:03
afaikwtf is it?04:03
dooglusno problem.  lucky you set a root password, eh?04:03
afaikcan I kill it?04:03
hondjein gcalctool, can someone tell me what it returns for 7.25x10^-11 / 1x10^5 ?04:04
pschulz01messages in /var/log/messages show that  it's been detected.04:04
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shane24how do I kill the X server so I can install Nvidia drivers?04:04
hondjeI get the wrong answer, but want a confirmation before I file a bug in breezy04:04
dooglusshane24: you don't need to.04:04
afaikshane24, ps ax |grep X04:04
afaikkill the process04:04
sproingiehondje: what answer do you get?04:04
afaiknice it as they say04:04
vladuz976can i just update to breezy by changing all "hoary" in sourcel.list to "breezy"? what about the backports entry?04:04
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hondje7.25x10^-604:04
shane24dooglus, why do I not need to?04:04
dooglusshane24: apparently you just install the drivers and restart X04:05
hondjewhen it's clearly 10^-1604:05
thoreauputic!tell shane24 about nvidia04:05
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olidooglus, indeed, even more that my main username wasnt there existing when i tried to loggon the first time, gotta love IRSSI for help.04:05
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lgcsproingie, pardon my candidness, but is there a command you  know to verify the md5 sum from the disk?04:05
BROKEN_LADDERanyone know how to get a digital camera to be mounted in ubuntu?04:05
bimberivladuz976: there aren't any breezy backports afaik, comment the line out for now04:05
sproingiehondje: did you parenthesize 1x10^5?04:05
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BROKEN_LADDERi don't know what /dev/ entry it has.04:05
dooglushondje: how are you entering that calculation?04:05
pschulz01How do I find out what device to use to mount it? Messages says... localhost kernel: scsi5 : SCSI emulation fo...04:06
vladuz976BROKEN_LADDER, dmesg find out where it is it think /dev/sda or something  then mount that to a dir04:06
sproingiehondje: otherwise you probably divided by 1 and multiplied by 10^504:06
afaikcan I kill gconfd?04:06
afaikwhat is it's purpose? there is no man page for it04:06
BROKEN_LADDERvladuz976 dmesg will tell me that?04:06
dooglushondje: using scientific view?04:06
pschulz01Sep 27 11:18:02 localhost and ...kernel: usb 4-5: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 604:06
afaikit is mystereous04:06
hondjesproingie: yeah, that's what it is04:06
afaiktell me!04:06
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hondjeI wouldn't have thought I needed to () the denom.04:06
BROKEN_LADDERvladuz976 it just says: usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 704:06
vladuz976BROKEN_LADDER, really?04:07
thoreauputicafaik: gconfd - would you guess gnome configuration daemon ?04:07
hondjedooglus: yeah, sproingie was on that one :)04:07
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afaikcan I kill ut04:07
afaikthere are 10 processes of it running04:07
scottbanyone know the proper install setup for ruby?  i keep getting errors when trying to setup ruby-gems04:07
BROKEN_LADDERvladuz976 uh..yeah really.04:08
vladuz976BROKEN_LADDER, is it connected04:08
vladuz976?04:08
hondjethanks, guys :)04:08
BROKEN_LADDERof course.04:08
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dooglushondje: try 1*10^2/1*10^204:08
BROKEN_LADDERvladuz976 dmesg clearly says it's connected.  lsusb shows it.04:08
dooglushondje: I get 10,00004:08
thoreauputicafaik: why do you want to kill it ??04:08
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dooglushondje: it's doing (1*10^2/1)*10^2, isn't it04:09
xuniluserWhat download accelerators do you guys use?04:09
hondjedooglus: exactly...isn't that dumb? I should file a bug on that anyway04:09
sproingieafaik: you can probably kill the hung gconfd processes.  there's probably a parent process, use pstree to see if there is.  don't kill that one04:09
vladuz976anybody else here know how to connect the digi cam? isnt' there something in gnome for it?04:09
dooglushondje: I think it's probably kind of right...  depending on what you think 'exp' should do...04:09
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dooglushondje: * and / have equal precedence, like in C, and the group left to right.04:10
hondjegnome-volume-manager-gthumb %h for the camera04:10
pschulz01When I plug in a USB flask disk it comes up.. whan I plug in USB HDD it doesn't.04:10
dooglusso a*b/c*d means ((a*b)/c)*d04:10
BROKEN_LADDERvladuz976 isn't there a way to look ut a usb device in the list and probe it to find out which device node it is using?04:10
hondjedooglus: yeah, but it should know when you're using exp what you're wanting04:10
NiCKeLAHAHAHA04:10
NiCKeLthats a good nickname04:10
NiCKeLdooglus04:10
BROKEN_LADDERplease forgive my dear aunt sally04:10
hondjeWhat did you aunt do?04:11
_jasonhondje:  but then if you wanted the nonexponent expression you'd have to put the parantheses even though normally you don't need them :)04:11
BROKEN_LADDERhondje it's a mnemonic device that relates to order of operations in math.04:11
afaiksproingie, you... you.. you tricked me!04:11
pschulz01BROKEN_LADDER: there should be, but how?04:11
hondjeah04:11
afaikI killed the gconfd processes and my stystem crashed!04:11
BROKEN_LADDERparentheses f? multiplication division add subtract04:11
hondjeI should know that, I'm the guy with math equations tattooed on himself04:11
_jasonBROKEN_LADDER:  please excuse!04:11
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rob_pBROKEN_LADDER:  Perhaps something like, "tail -n 50 /var/log/syslog" will give you some useful info regarding your usb device.04:12
BROKEN_LADDER_jason yeah!  that's it.04:12
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BROKEN_LADDERorder of operations is, of course, arbitrary.04:12
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afaikBROKEN_LADDER, I said it before and I'll say it again... your nick is damn annoying04:12
_jasonhondje:  what math equations do you have tattooed?04:12
BROKEN_LADDERafaik i think it's beautiful.04:13
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lgcsproingie, I burnt the CD as an ISO image and the program did issue a warning that I didn't quite understood. about the disk only containing CD images.04:13
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s3[mn] rainI see the ubuntu repositories only have php 4.4.0 for apache2, I was wondering where it installs php to so that I can put 4.0.4 in there for testing04:13
ninjakarlGreetings all. I need some help if you would be willing to oblige.04:13
pschulz01 BROKEN_LADDER: When I plug in my USB key, I get a '/dev/sda1' device created which is owned by root.plugdev04:13
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Hobbseeninjakarl - on what?04:13
hondje_jason: just added eulers identity last night, e^i*pi + 1 = 0, heisenburgs uncertainty priciple, F = d/dt p, and adding E^2 = (mc^2)^2 + (pc)^2 tonight04:13
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pschulz01BROKEN_LADDER: This device is not created when the USB Harddrive is used.04:14
farion#lc04:14
ninjakarlBelking network Card: f5d6020z ver. 3000. I need to find some drivers for it before I switch over today.04:14
BROKEN_LADDERpschulz01 hmm..04:14
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BROKEN_LADDERpschulz01 i get that with my dap actually.  /dev/sda104:14
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_jasonhondje:  do fermat's little theorem04:15
hondje_jason: oh, that'd be a nice touch04:15
BROKEN_LADDERpschulz01 i'm going to reboot just for the heck of it.  i plugged the camera in before i had loaded usb_storage and sd_mod so that could have done something.  who knows..04:15
hondjeI'm aiming at having the whole left inner calf done with equations, but I can't accept just any ol' thing :)04:15
pschulz01BROKEN_LADDER: I'm going to plug in the USB HDD, create the 'sda1' device (maj 8, min 1) and see if I can mount via that.04:15
Agrajag-g'day. what might be stopping this working: "xhost +; DISPLAY=localhost:0.0 xterm" - i get "xterm Xt error: Can't open display: localhost:0.0"04:15
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ninjakarlbrb04:15
Agrajag-doing DISPLAY=:0.0 xterm works though04:16
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caleb_breezy - anybody know what mono package contains gdk-x11-2.0?04:16
DaSkreechUbuntu sucks for Dialup04:16
hondjeoh, maybe his last theorem04:16
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BicchiWhat is the difference from booting into: "Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.10-5-amd64-generic Default"    and    "Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.10-5-amd64-generic"04:16
AnkhWeaselSay that I have a Windows XP / Ubuntu dual boot. Say that I uninstalled 5.04, looking to reinstall with 5.10 - cleaned out the old partitions with a full erase, and then, after burning 5.10 to disk, rebooted after setting my computer to make new partitions. GRUB loads. With errors. My partitions haven't been written, and I therefore can't boot into XP. I'm on the Live CD now.04:16
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ninjakarlAnybody? Belkin NIC f5d6020z ver. 3000 drivers?04:17
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SpaceBassAnkhWeasel:  can you use fdisk and make the xp partition bootable?04:17
pschulz01BROKEN_LADDER: No luck... mount: sda1 is not a valid block device04:17
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DaSkreechit doesn't have an obvious way ti dial up or disconnect04:18
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AnkhWeaselFdisk from like, DOS?04:18
SpaceBassAnkhWeasel:  or from linux :)04:18
mrimbertmeasure theory04:18
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SpaceBassits on the live CD or should be04:18
AnkhWeaselSwanktastic. I was just looking for that. :)04:18
hondjeoh hey! Swartz-Cauchy!04:19
SpaceBassAnkhWeasel: do you get grub or anything when you boot to the hd?04:19
Herbal_childcan someone tell me why i see .gov sources in apt-get? ftp://mirror.mcs.anl.gov04:19
delltonyalright one of two things either firefox is borked on me or java is. i'm shooting more toward java cause when i go to the java test page after installing java firefox simply closes out on me anyone else have this issue and a solution?04:19
AnkhWeaselIt gets GRUB, all error'd  up.04:19
blahrusdelltony, run firefox from the command line and get some errors for us :)04:19
AnkhWeaselDoesn't get to the point of listing my OSs.04:20
Herbal_childftp://mirror.mcs.anl.gov ?04:20
delltonyaww good point will do04:20
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SpaceBassAnkhWeasel:  guess its looking for /boot/grub which is gone so menu.list is gone and thus no listing of os04:20
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hondjemrimbert: that's pretty weird stuff, man04:20
mrimbert:)04:20
SpaceBassAnkhWeasel: get a windows or dos boot disc and run fdisk /mbr04:20
SpaceBassthat will get your windows back04:20
delltonyalrirght let me paste this to pastebin04:20
hoslerI need help with PEAR. I installed pear onto my webhosting using the go-pear.php script, but now when I require DB.php my pages all turn up blank. Does anyone know how to fix this?04:21
delltonybrb04:21
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AnkhWeaselRighto, thanks. Will it let me clear off GRUB?04:21
SpaceBassAnkhWeasel:  fdisk/mbr (one word) will clear the master boot record and thus remove grub all togather04:21
lgcDoes anyone know what is the 5.10-preview-installl-template?04:21
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mrimbertlgc, what do you mean?04:21
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SpaceBassassuming your windows is still on the first partition on the drive04:22
AnkhWeaselAlright. Thanks a lot, mate.04:22
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SpaceBassnp, goood luck04:22
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lgcmrimbert, I downloaded the preview-install template together with the Breezy ISO images and now I don't know what to do with them (since the disk doesn't boot)04:22
mrimbertlgc, template?04:23
lgcIt's on the file list from the download site.04:23
s3[mn] rainfor apache2 I have php in "/usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp4.so", can I change libphp4.so to whatever version of php 4 i want?04:23
mrimbertlgc, all you need is the .iso.  Not sure what the template is that you're referring to04:23
lgcmrimbert, That is the problem. The file is being "offered04:24
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hoslerI need help with PEAR. I installed pear onto my webhosting using the go-pear.php script, but now when I require DB.php my pages all turn up blank. Does anyone know how to fix this?04:24
SpaceBassAnkhWeasel:  where in Au?04:24
AnkhWeaselWest Aus.04:24
Hobbseeanother aussie hey?04:24
lgctogether with the ISO image, but no explanation is to be found about it, mrimbert .04:24
mrimbertlgc, just get the .iso04:25
AnkhWeaselDamn right.04:25
Hobbseegreetings from nsw04:25
scottbhosler: there is more configuration you need to do to the php.ini file in order to get pear working04:25
scottbphp needs to know where to look for the pear libraries04:25
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lgcIf it doesn't boot, how can I make it boot, mrimbert ?04:25
hondjeokay, that's enough linear algebra for one night, must not google what mrimbert says again ;-)04:25
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AnkhWeaselFrom where, SpaceBass?04:25
hondjewikipedia will get you lost04:25
SpaceBassUSA04:25
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Hobbseespacebass: it's fun, do it04:25
mrimbertlgc, make sure the md5sum is correct before you burn it04:25
hoslerscottb: like what. Can I have a local php.ini configuration file?04:26
delltonyerror with firefox ---> http://rafb.net/paste/results/HWPr6N56.html04:26
mrimberthondje, measure theory, dude, not lin. alg. ;)04:26
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AnkhWeaselSo, just to check - erasing the MBR doesn't kill my XP install?04:26
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someuserhelo all04:26
BROKEN_LADDERi can't get my digital camera to get a /dev entry. :(04:26
scottbah, i take it you're in a shared hosting environment...you don't have access to the php.ini file right?04:26
BROKEN_LADDEReven though it's listed in lsusb.04:27
lgcmrimbert, it seems the utility included in Hoary doesnt do the checksum. Do you know how to make it in a different way? On the terminal, maybe?04:27
KyralAnkhWeasel, it will...04:27
Kyralinstalling GRUB there won't04:27
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mrimbertlgc, you should have the md5sum command04:27
SpaceBassAnkhWeasel:  nope, it restores the windows bootloader and erases grub, but leaves your partitions intact04:27
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AnkhWeaselAlrighty.04:27
SpaceBassremember fdisk/mbr not just fdisk04:27
AnkhWeaselHeh, yeah. :)04:28
SpaceBassno arguments after that, c: is implied and will only work on c04:28
scottbhosler: read this, it may help: http://builder.com.com/5100-6371-5163311.html04:28
s3[mn] rainfor apache2 I have php in "/usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp4.so", can I change libphp4.so to whatever version of php 4 i want?04:28
lgcmrimbert, you are right. The command exists. Will the right syntax be md5sum /cdrom0 or something like that?04:29
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BROKEN_LADDERare there some digital cameras that don't act as a usb mass storage device??04:29
mrimbertlgc, md5um <foo.iso>04:30
mrimbertBROKEN_LADDER, yes04:30
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DaSkreechWhich should be required for a Granny distro :)04:30
hondjeBROKEN_LADDER: Mine doesn't. Having troubles with your?04:30
lgcmrimbert, I'm working on that...04:30
BROKEN_LADDERhondje oh my god, i just took it for granted that it would do that.04:31
afaikwhat is pickup used for?04:31
hondjeUnder system -> preferences -> removable drives and media, do you have 'gnome-volume-manager-gthumb %h' in there? That's what I have for camera, and it magically detects it04:31
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afaikI have a bunch of these processes running:pickup -l -t fifo -u -c04:31
xuniluseri have a problem with acroread. have you guys experienced it also? i thinks there's an error in the .deb from where i was getting it using apt-get04:31
hondjeBROKEN_LADDER: heh, happened to me once too, since everything else I have that's USB is read that way ;)04:31
pschulz01BROKEN_LADDER: The USB HDD looks to be a problem with the disk itself.04:31
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delltonyanyone have an idea on that java error?04:32
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BROKEN_LADDERpschulz01 with the actual camera?04:32
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pschulz01BROKEN_LADDER: Soorry.. this is with the HDD, not camera.04:33
BROKEN_LADDERi don't have a usb hdd.04:33
BROKEN_LADDERwell, i have a usb drive for flash memory cards04:33
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lgcmrimbert, my machine is taking quite a while on that...04:33
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someuseris there en ms program emulator on subuntu?04:33
mrimbertlgc, to compute the md5sum? okay.04:34
Toma-someuser: wine04:34
lgcmrimbert, yes.04:34
pschulz01Anyone else here seen screwy behaviour with USB Drives? It's a laptop in a USB caddy. First impression I have is that the caddy is expecting a FAT filesystem on the drive.04:34
BROKEN_LADDERpschulz01 what did the problem appear to be with the hdd.04:34
lgcmrimbert, it fia04:34
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mrimbertfia?04:35
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lgcmrimbert, it finally ended with a "buffer read error"! Damn!04:35
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esacdoes anybody know how/if i can use gensplash_initramfs in ubuntu to generate a cool fbsplash screen ?04:35
trixit is possible to upgrade untu to kubuntu?04:35
pschulz01Plug in, didn't initally mount.. for some reason it mounts now, but all the file names are 'gibberish' and I am getting 'invalid access to FAT' errors in /var/log/messages.04:35
trixubuntu to kubuntu04:36
mrimberttrix, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop04:36
BROKEN_LADDERif i have a usb flash card reader, what device name would it likely get?04:36
mrimbertlgc, I've never seen that happen before.04:36
chxBROKEN_LADDER: dmesg04:36
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B_166-ER-Xwhy is the time in the corner of Gnome and the time in the System--Administratio--Time and date      , are not the same ??04:36
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lgcmrimbert, I did the same with the file on the hard disk and it throws some big hex number.04:37
mrimbertlgc, that's the checksum04:37
pschulz01The USB drive has a Breezy install on it (installed directly on a laptop). The plan was to modify GRUB/fstab to allow it to be booted from USB.04:37
pschulz01but alas the hardware has failed me.04:38
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HrdwrBoBpschulz01: you can do it04:38
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HrdwrBoByou need to put a delay in the boot sequence04:38
_johnwhats the name of that java package?04:38
lgcmrimbert, I am doing it on the /cdrom/ubuntu-5.10-preview-install-i386.iso. Just to make sure...04:38
_johnthe one in synaptic04:38
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_johnthat allows you to use the runtime environment04:39
mrimbertlgc, how did it end up there?04:39
lady_annie19hello04:39
pschulz01HrdwrBoB: Can Breezy be installed on a FAT filesystem as root?04:39
HrdwrBoBer04:39
HrdwrBoBno04:39
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mrimbertlgc, you want to download the .iso, and then burn it to CD.  Don't create a data CD from the .iso, which is what is sounds like you did.04:39
lgcmrimbert, it's still in the makings...04:39
delltonyhmm looks like someone else had my error but no solution yet http://archives.free.net.ph/message/20050917.071444.716f5c45.en.html04:40
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pschulz01Has anyone see USB devices that only support FAT? I suspect my IPod has this problem.04:40
mrimbertlgc, sounds like you're burning it incorrectly04:40
lgcmrimbert, I am not sure of what I did. I just downloaded to the HD and then burnt the CD. Is this wrong?04:40
attyhi04:40
jsubl2delltony: might need to try a newer version of java04:40
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darklogici just installed hoary and on booting it freezes (black screen) trying to start the gnome display manager04:40
darklogicanyone have a suggestion?04:41
mrimbertlgc, are you using nautilus to do that?04:41
lgcmrimbert, is there any parameter I have to tweak?04:41
attyhow to do command to run dpkg package a ?04:41
lgcmrimbert, natilus, indeed.04:41
FhaeTonbefore I waist my money which should I buy SATA or SATA150  and is the such thing as SATA2 drive?04:41
delltonyyeah ill download the bin from java's page and try that i guess04:41
pschulz01Hmm.. I can't seen any way out of this one.. by for now.04:41
trixmrimbert: hw about upgrading from cd without internet connection?04:41
lgcmrimbert, I ended up again with an md5sum error for the cdrom file.04:41
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FhaeTonhttp://www.answers.com/topic/serial-ata04:42
mrimbertlgc, run the md5sum on the downloaded .iso image, wherever you saved it04:42
attyE: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.  <-- how to do this?04:42
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mrimberttrix, upgrading an hoary install with a breezy CD?  Yes, it can be done.04:42
BROKEN_LADDERoh my god!  kde as this camera program that supports my camera.  i can just import my photos in gthumb!!  yayyyyyy04:42
mrimbertatty, sudo dpkg --configure -a04:42
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B_166-ER-XWhy does it says E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proc ess using it?, when i try to apt-get update ??04:42
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lgcmrimbert, I just did that and got the big hex number I mentioned04:42
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Sonny_WertzikAnybody get a new header update for hoary recently? and have your alsa drivers crash?04:43
mrimbertlgc, good, compare it to what it's supposed to be04:43
triggerhi everyone, can someone please tell me if there is a guide on how to install the ati drivers in ubuntu, i have an ati 9600, and i need the 3d to work04:43
mrimbert!tell trigger about ati04:43
B_166-ER-Xoh04:43
B_166-ER-Xits ok04:43
lgcmrimbert, let me check the download page...04:43
mrimbertlgc, right04:44
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dooglushow can I ask 'gam_server' to restart?04:44
darklogiccan anyone tell me why my new hoary install freezes on boot?04:45
toxiclehi guys ... i'm dual booting windows and ubuntu04:45
Hobbseehi toxicle04:45
toxiclei have grub as the bootloader04:45
darklogicthis is a bit frustrating04:45
Sonny_Wertzikanyone even hear about someone having problems after installing the laterset kernel update?04:45
dooglusdarklogic: sounds like a problem with the X setup.04:45
toxiclenow i need to reinstall windows04:45
mrimbertdarklogic, more details please.  That's obviously not what it does for the majority of people, or it would have been a big deal.04:45
lgcmrimbert, I seems it downloaded OK.04:45
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toxiclehow to i fix grub without reinstalling ubuntu ?04:45
mrimbertlgc, good.  You're just burning a data CD, which is not what you want to do04:45
Hobbseetoxicle: as in, you've lost windows, or grub is entirely dead?04:46
darklogici installled hoary, everything went fine afaik, and on first boot it freezes (black screen) shortly after the message "starting gnome display manager"04:46
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toxicleHobbsee: nah ... everything works fine now04:46
Hobbseetoxicle: cool :)04:46
toxicleHobbsee: I plan to reinstall windows04:46
toxiclewhen i do .. it will take over grub04:46
mrimbertdarklogic, can you switch to a virtual console?04:46
lgcmrimbert, then what settings do I have to use (is there any?)04:46
darklogicmrimbert, nope. completely frozen04:47
DaSkreechTh update notification seems to ebe broken04:47
difetaI've upgraded to ubuntu and I'm running an nvidia card, when i try to startx I get an error that says caught singal 11. The log does not have any extra information. Any ideas?04:47
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DaSkreechthe04:47
mrimbertlgc, use nautilus.  right-click on the .iso, and select "Write to disc"04:47
mrimbertdifeta, did you configure xorg to use nvidia?04:47
_johnhey.  for some reason, j2re can't be found in synaptic.  I have the extra repositories, does anyone know what the problem might be>04:47
difetamrimbert yep the same way I always have. In fact I'm using the same x.org file I was using in hoary04:48
toxiclehttp://ubuntuforums.o04:48
ro0t_john, hit update04:49
jroesdue to the massive lack of binaries for amd64, is it best to just stick to a 32bit install?04:49
adjacentdifeta: what kernel?04:49
mrimbertdifeta, so you when through the process described on the wiki BinaryDriverHowto page?04:49
_johnro0t: apt-get update?04:49
_johnoh04:49
_johnoh never mind04:49
_johni got it04:49
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difetaadjacent 2.6.12-904:50
lgcmrimbert, I get this panel that says: write disk to (a chooser): CDRW/DVD or file image. Then write options: Maximum possible, etc.04:50
mrimbertdarklogic, totally frozen, eh?  Can you check /var/log/Xorg.0.log after booting into rescue mode?04:50
difetamrimbert nope.04:50
B_166-ER-Xwhy is amule not listed in synaptic or Apt-get ???04:50
adjacentdifeta: apt-get install linux-modules-restricted-2.6.12-904:50
adjacentdifeta: then go into xorg.conf and change /usr/lib/X11/fonts/blah to /usr/share/X11/fonts/blah04:51
dooglusB_166-ER-X: amule is in the 'universe' section.  you need to add that.04:51
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dooglus!tell B_166-ER-X about repositories04:51
adjacentdifeta: and you may need to change your keyboard driver name from keyboard to kbd04:51
mrimbert!tell difeta about nvidia04:51
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mrimbertdifeta, please follow the procedures as specified in the URL ubotu sent you04:51
adjacentdifeta: i assume you are in the same position i was earlier. using nvidia driver, dist-upgrade to breezy, and xorg wont start up04:52
difetaadjacent thats right04:52
difetamrimbert thanks04:52
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adjacentdifeta: if you check those things i told you it should come up nicely04:52
mrimbertlgc, go ahead and give that a try04:53
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darklogicmrimbert, nothing obvious in there, shall i send it to you?04:53
adjacentdifeta: and you may want to change firefox fonts to bitstream fonts because they look nasty otherwise04:53
lgcmrimbert, I already tried both options: CDRW/DVD and image file on two disks, and none seems to work (which means I wasted two disks).04:53
lightstarhi all..just upgraded 2 breezy n i was wondering if there is any way 2 remove evolution completely?04:53
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mrimbertlgc, it's for one CD04:53
mrimbertdarklogic, you can paste it on pastebin if you want04:54
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attythanks mrimbert. now i can update my ubuntu software updated04:54
difetaadjacent none of that worked. Whats wierd is I can use the vesa or nv driver. But not the nvidia driver04:54
mrimbertyo nalioth04:54
mrimbertatty, nice04:55
darklogicmrimbert, http://pastebin.com/37530804:55
lgcmrimbert, what I mean is that I already exhausted the two recording options, to no avail.04:55
adjacentdo you have the 2.6.12-9 restricted modules?04:55
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someuserhelo, can somone assit me?04:55
naliothhello mr. in-disguise04:55
mrimbertlgc, sounds like you're doing something wrong.04:55
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lgcmrimbert, any clue?04:56
|wwso what would cause the connect to server ftp client not connect, but connecting via ftp on a command line works fine.. basic ftp port 21 yada yada04:56
Hobbseesomeuser: what's youre question?04:56
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mrimbertlgc, as I said, you download the .iso, right-click, and select "Write to disc".  It's less the 650MB, so it fits on 1 CD04:56
someuserhi, if i do install ubuntu on my hd and i want to uninstal it in time,04:56
mrimbertnalioth, hardly a disguise to use my real name ;)04:56
someusercan i do so without damaging win04:56
difetaadjacent yes, I have the proper restriced modules04:57
Hobbseesomeuser: as in, dual boot04:57
someuserir i will have to reformat the entire hd, and reinstall win04:57
trixmrimbert: have u tried turbo linux?04:57
adjacentdifeta: if there is nothing in /var/log/Xorg.0.log im stumped too. sorry04:57
mrimberttrix, nope04:57
trixhave u heard?04:57
lgcmrimbert, that's what I've done. There's no space left for messing around in the disk...04:57
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someuseryes, i hade a bad expiriance with dualboot with mandrake04:58
Hobbseesomuser: depends if you install the win and linux side by side or not - if they are side by side, you should be able to uninstall it04:58
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wrabbit01someuser, as far as I know, you can do dualboot.  I've just burnt Ubuntu live and am running it right now.  It's damn good. I've gotta figure out how to dual boot myself.04:58
trixi have a turbo linux here and im trying to install04:58
mrimbertdarklogic, you do have an Intel i8xx chipset?04:58
Hobbseedualbooting is fine - that's what this is04:58
os2maccan someone walk me through configuring a wlan adapter in ubuntu?04:58
Hobbseeinstall windows first though04:58
darklogicmrimbert, yes onboard. but my monitor is plugged into my pci geforce404:58
someuseri get the dual boot thing, but my qwestion is diffirent04:58
|wwmy ftp client will connect just never show files.. is there passive mode i can set me ftp client up with04:59
mrimbertsomeuser, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo04:59
someuserif i chuse to remuve ubunutu *regardless how good it is)04:59
Hobbseeyes, you can get rid of it, you'll have to overwrite the MBR though if you isntall it04:59
wrabbit01cheers mrimbert... that helps me aswell04:59
Hobbseeand if i remember correctly, that windows dual boot wiki is terrible04:59
someuserwill i gonna need to reformat the hd, end reinstall win?04:59
difetaadjacent when i attempt to startx I see an nvidia logo, but the X log says something like. "agpgart: Putting AGP V3 device at 0000:01:00.0 into 4x mode"04:59
mrimbertdarklogic, ah, that's why.  Can you disable your i8xx in the BIOS?04:59
difetaadjacent thats the last line.04:59
dooglushow do I build software using the -dbg version of libglib?04:59
ArkainiumSeems like hal introduces more problems than it solves.  :P05:00
darklogicmrimbert, not that i know of05:00
os2maccan someone help with wlan on ubuntu?05:00
dooglusis it a ./configure option?  or do I edit a /etc/... file?  or what?05:00
Hobbseewell, there's a better one, anyway05:00
mrimbertwrabbit01, :)05:00
darklogicmrimbert, my bios doesn't give me a whole lot of flexibility05:00
Hobbseesomeuser: no05:00
mrimbertdarklogic, well, xorg is currently configured to use it05:00
Hobbseesomeuser: do you have your windows cd's anyway?05:00
someuserso i will be able to remuve it without damaging windows?05:00
boxerboy29by the way the site that you guys tell me is bad is back up and running on same address05:01
someuseri want to evoid completly the need to reinstal win, if i want to uninstal ubuntu05:01
difetaadjacent I'd like to jsut reinstall the whole dang thing. But for some reason cdrecord wont work either05:01
darklogicmrimbert, figures. so should i switch my monitor to that vga port and change it to use the geforce then? and how?05:01
adjacentdifeta: looks like a bug. possibly downgrade udev05:01
Hobbseesomeuser: yes, you should be able to remove it05:01
someuseris this possible? (without damaging partitions or windows)?05:01
difetaadjacent in cdrecord?05:01
bimberios2mac: hopefully this might help - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto05:02
os2macgoing there now05:02
mrimbertdarklogic, if you want to use the geforce, you'll need to follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, and see if that works.05:02
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Hobbseesomeuser: yes.  if you install grub to the mbr, then you'll have to use fdisk if you ever want to get rid of it, which is off the windows cd's05:02
nmstryodaholy crud batman.. 74 new updates on breezy... cool05:02
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mrimbertdarklogic, you may have to be sure to specify the Bus ID, since you can't disable your i8xx05:02
esachow can i add my own initramfs (fbsplash) to an ubuntu kernel ?05:02
mrimbertesac, probably you'll be the first to try05:03
someuserafter uing fdisk-mbr will my windows work es normally?05:03
sdaliDoes anyone know how to enable sftp and ssh servers in Ubuntu?05:03
nmstryoda!ssh05:03
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, ssh is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SSHHowto05:03
Hobbseesomeuser: yes, but check google before you do it, so you get the right command05:03
mrimbertsdali, install openssh-server05:03
sdaliThanks!05:03
Hobbsee!mbr05:03
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, Hobbsee05:03
Hobbseehehe...right...pity05:03
sdali!ssh05:03
Hobbsee!dualboot05:03
ubotuit has been said that dualboot is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo05:04
adjacentdifeta: im not sure. but it sounds like hotplug or udev is having a problem....05:04
nmstryoda!grub05:04
ubotu[grub]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting05:04
Hobbseeah...that's the one i wanted!05:04
someuserok. ty. i will ( i'm asking becos i hade a nghitmear dooing it with Mandrake)05:04
nmstryodawelcom Hobbsee05:04
difetaadjacent Then I'll boot into knoppix, burn the cd and reinstall this bad boy. I suspect m cutomization have cased problems05:04
darklogicmrimbert, okay thanks for your help05:04
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darklogicsee you all soon05:04
Hobbseesomeuser: it shouldnt be terribly hard05:04
trixmrimbert: i try to install my kubuntu cd in my ubuntu but my hoary is ristricted..05:04
mrimbert!botabuse05:04
ubotuYou can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.05:04
adjacentdifeta: good luck05:04
nmstryodaLOL05:04
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someuserok, thanks for helping05:04
Hobbseeno problems05:05
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B_166-ER-XWhy is my time no set correctly  even if it is in the system config ??05:05
mrimbertsomeuser, I gave you that URL a long time ago...05:05
sdalimrimbert: I've already got it installed, and "man openssh-server" is no help. How do I turn it on?05:05
someuserone more qwestion, how much disk space will ubuntu take?05:05
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nmstryodaB_166-ER-X, is it set to Universal standard time?05:05
mrimbertsdali, it's started after install.05:05
JDahlsomeuser, around 2GB05:05
joel_hey does anyone know how to get java running on ubuntu?05:05
nmstryoda!java05:05
ubotuwell, java is to install Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats05:05
gowee! java05:06
uboturumour has it, java is to install Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats05:06
nmstryoda!blackdownjava05:06
ubotunmstryoda: I don't know, could you explain it?05:06
attycan ubuntu have xmice inviroment ?05:06
joel_are these robots?05:06
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signbarnokay, here's my error message: Gnome-WARNING **: Accessibility: failed to find module 'libatk-bridge' which is needed to make this application accessible05:06
nmstryodajoel_, ubotu is05:06
Hobbseejoel_: ubotu is a robot, yes05:06
gowee! plugins05:06
ubotugowee: No idea05:06
someuserok, thanks, i think i'm gooing to install it (after reading link) now that i'm shure i can uninstal it saftly05:06
B_166-ER-Xnmstryoda nope, but i did it i think and it dont change anything05:06
joel_o ok05:06
gowee! plugins05:06
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nmstryodaB_166-ER-X, you on wireless?..05:07
someuserthat is with no damage to my current os05:07
lgcmrimbert, I've been md5summing again with the first copy of the ISO image: It ended again with an error! So both copies are damaged. Could it be the software or my drive? My machine is almost brand new and I'd never burnt a CD on it.05:07
B_166-ER-Xnope05:07
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nmstryodadhcp?05:07
B_166-ER-X???05:07
nmstryoda... i.e. does the Ubuntu timeserver sync action fail on bootup?05:07
tritiumlgc, then you need to download it again05:07
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B_166-ER-Xi dont know05:08
tritiumnmstryoda, if your network interface isn't up yet, which is common for wireless interfaces05:08
lgctritium, The checksum for the download was right.05:08
joel_anyone know how to get java running? i downloaded the java file but when i double click it it says it cannot open the file05:08
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tritiumlgc, yeah, I saw ;)05:08
nmstryodaright... but B_166-ER-X isn't on wirelesss.. .but time is off05:08
dabaRjoel_: where did you get the file?05:08
sdalimrimbert: Thanks.05:09
tritiumlgc, actually, you said it gave you an error05:09
tritiumsdali, sure :)05:09
lgctritium, do you mean I have to download again in spite of that?05:09
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B_166-ER-Xits actually like 23:00 here but my gnome time says 3:05 am05:09
tritiumlgc, if you checked the md5sum of the .iso that you downloaded, and it gave you an error, then yes.05:09
attyhow can i view my windowxp partition? winxp install under fat32 but i can't see the partition05:09
|wwany suggest a good ftp client for ubuntu?05:10
lgctritium, the CD  file does have an error, but not the originally downloaded file.05:10
Hobbseeatty: www.ubuntuguide.org05:10
tritiumlgc, the file should never have been burned to CD in the first place05:10
bimberiubotu tell atty about windowsdrives05:10
lgctritium, what instead?05:10
bimberi|ww: nautilus05:10
trixits possible to view other cam in gaim?05:10
tritium!tell Hobbsee about ubuntuguide05:10
bimberi|ww: Places -> Connect to Server05:11
DaSkreechCan I apt install e17?05:11
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tritiumlgc, we've gone over this already05:11
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joel_java05:11
Hobbsee!ubuntuguide05:11
ubotufrom memory, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.05:11
joel_anyone know how to get it working05:11
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bimberijoel_: did you follow the directions on the wiki?05:11
|wwbimberi: Places -> connect to server wont work for one of my ftp servers don't know why.. i can ftp via a command line05:11
s3[mn] rainProbably a newbie question, but how can I extract the contents of an rpm so I can get one file out of it?05:11
joel_what is the wiki05:11
joel_sorry I'm new to this05:11
tritiumjoel_, the best method is to use make-jpkg (in java-package) to build your own .deb from Sun's .bin05:12
|wwbimberi: I have other working ftp clients.. i dont know if its a transfer mode problem.. the ftp server on my production webbox (proftpd) seems to work with everything else05:12
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I-ninjahow can i fucking play windows games on ubuntu05:12
lgctritium, are you mrimbert? He explained how to BURN the iso file to CD. Now you say it should NOT be done. What can be done instead?05:12
bimberi|ww: hm, ok, perhaps gftp then05:12
trixtritium: hw to view other cam? wat will i anstall?05:12
|wwbimberi: it seems to connect.. but not display any folders or documents till it finally times out05:12
I-ninjaiam so fucking frustrated05:12
tritiumI-ninja, watch your language please05:13
I-ninjasorry05:13
trixi-ninja.. use wine05:13
I-ninjabut iam so frustrated05:13
joel_yea me too05:13
trixwww.winehq.com05:13
I-ninjawer05:13
bimberijoel_: are you running hoary?05:13
trixwww.winehq.com05:13
I-ninjai already visited the site05:13
joel_im on ubuntu05:13
trixuse mandriva05:13
Hobbseeatty: even though it says the ubuntuguide is stuffed, it does have the information you want, under windows section05:13
joel_this is my first time using this05:13
joel_i just installed it05:13
I-ninjai dont know wer can i get wine05:14
trixwww.winehq.com05:14
bimberijoel_: from a pressed CD?05:14
I-ninjano i cant get wine from the site05:14
joel_from a cd yes05:14
tritiumjoel_, go here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and click on "5. Java"05:14
tritiumfollow the method involving java-package05:14
nmstryodaI-ninja, sudo apt-get install wine05:14
joel_thanks ill try that05:14
os2macwell that just sucks.05:14
attybit complecated to set as ubotu show05:14
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lgctritium,  just tell me if I am doing wrong in burning the iso file to CD.05:15
os2macwhy is it that I can't find a distro that does both my wlan card and my video.05:15
os2macubuntu gets the video correct but I have to use the ndiswrapper for my wlan card and it's not supported in the live distro of ubuntu05:15
I-ninjaarg05:15
tritiumlgc, I told you to right-click and choose "Write to CD"05:15
nmstryodaos2mac, blame the Mfgs of the network cards05:16
I-ninjaubuntu is so hard05:16
nmstryodaand MS05:16
I-ninjai tought it was easy05:16
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os2macthis is Dell/Broadcom05:16
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I-ninjai might well get installed fedora core 305:16
tritiumI-ninja, it's one of the easiest distros05:16
nmstryodaos2mac, yes05:16
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I-ninjaits more easy than ubuntu05:16
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nmstryodaI have that too os2mac05:16
os2macshould be a widely available driver.05:16
nmstryodaI-ninja, to each his own05:16
I-ninjaits hard to install from ubuntu05:16
os2macnms do you have a wlan card that works in the live distro of ubuntu?05:17
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I-ninjai cant install yahoo messenger05:17
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I-ninjai cant install wine05:17
I-ninjadam it05:17
attyy dont u use gaim?05:17
drogohUse Gaim.05:17
nmstryodaos2mac, proprietary drivers have that problem... none want's to release the code for the driver... thus you havea ndiswrapper05:17
tritiumI-ninja, there's gaim.  But you can install both of those.05:17
lgcthat's what I did, tritium-mrimbert! I swear! I just need your clue as to what -apart from choosing the wrong option, which is not the case- could have gone wrong.05:17
I-ninjaatleast in fedora i can install those two05:17
drogohYou don't need Yahoo's messenger.05:17
nmstryodaI-ninja, why not?05:17
I-ninjaeven tho i cant run such programs05:17
tritiumlgc, there should not be those options05:17
attyjust because of yahoo messenger u say ubuntu not good?05:17
tritiumlgc, it should just start burning the CD to disc05:17
attyi did use fedora core 3 before05:17
I-ninjaiam so frustrated i cant play games on linuc05:17
I-ninjalinux05:17
x_o1Can anyone tell me why I am currently able to chat here, but my network-admin displays "Disconnected" in the status field.  I've tried to deactivate and activate, but nothing helps.05:17
nmstryodaI-ninja, are you using sudo apt-get install wine??05:18
I-ninjayah\05:18
drogohI-ninja, Go buy Cedega.05:18
nmstryodaI-ninja, what is the error?05:18
attylol05:18
nmstryodaif long paste on #flood05:18
tritiumI-ninja, why can't you install the winehq.com ones?  There are complete instructions on their website05:18
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I-ninjai cant hardly follow the instruction05:19
I-ninjait says i go to synatic package05:19
nmstryodaok05:19
nmstryodaso did you try that?05:19
tritiumI-ninja, and?05:19
lgctritium, I can click on "record to CD", indeed, and use the default CDRW (as opposed to "image file") option. And then choose to eject the disc after finishing the burn.05:19
tritiumlgc, did you not try that?05:20
I-ninjaand repositories05:20
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tritiumI-ninja, yeah, follow those instructions.05:20
lgcYes. With equally wrong results, tritium05:20
dabaRrome was not buiilt in a day05:20
I-ninjabut it displays different from the one they show on site05:20
I-ninjavery different05:20
tritiumlgc, in what way?05:21
I-ninjawhen i run05:21
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nmstryodaI-ninja, you have to add them... not really much different... just that there are like 17k + packages to choose from on Ubuntu05:21
I-ninjasudo apt-get install wine05:21
I-ninjai got this msg05:21
drogohpastebin.com05:21
I-ninjaroot@ubuntu:/home/user# sudo apt-get install wine05:21
I-ninjaReading package lists... Done05:21
I-ninjaBuilding dependency tree... Done05:21
I-ninjaYou might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:05:21
I-ninjaThe following packages have unmet dependencies:05:21
I-ninja  ymessenger: Depends: libgdk-pixbuf2 (>= 0.13.0) but it is not going to be installed05:21
I-ninja              Depends: libglib1.2 (>= 1.2.0) but it is not going to be installed              Depends: libgtk1.2 (>= 1.2.0) but it is not going to be installed05:21
I-ninja              Depends: libssl0.9.6 but it is not going to be installed05:21
dabaRyay paste05:21
drogohDamn it.05:21
I-ninjaE: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).05:21
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jbroome!flood05:21
ubotuit has been said that flood is for pasting, please use http://pastebin.com , http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or #flood here on freenode.05:21
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s3[mn] rainwhat the heck is a .cpio file?05:22
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lgctritium, in both options, "CDRW" and "image file", I ended up with a nice, glistering and useless Breezy CD.05:22
calcs3[mn] rain: man cpio05:22
s3[mn] rain!! ....05:22
ubotuNo idea, s3[mn] rain05:22
nmstryodai warned him... lol05:22
tritiumlgc, try burning at a slower speed.05:23
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tritiumI-ninja, don't paste in here please.05:23
calcs3[mn] rain: its similar to a tar archive05:23
calcused by rpm, etc05:23
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I-ninja?05:24
I-ninjawaaaaaaaaaaaaa05:24
dabaRjust dont paste05:24
allisfreestrange thing. i enabled the "caps lock", but when i hit the key "e"05:24
lgctritium, now you're talking! Thanks! I'll leave that for tomorrow, since I'm running very low on batt. "Adios" from Mexico!05:24
allisfreeit still lower,05:24
tritiumlgc, adios from Nuevo Mexico05:24
I-ninjai hate ubuntu05:25
drogohIt hates you too.05:25
I-ninjaits giving me a hard time05:25
dabaRI-ninja: so?05:25
I-ninjai cant install05:25
I-ninjaeeeeeeeeeeer05:25
I-ninjalots of error05:25
nmstryodaI-ninja, it's different... and takes a little effort to learn what to do05:25
I-ninjablah blah05:25
dabaRI-ninja: I think one of the main probs you have is you wanna run, and you cant even walk yet.05:25
dabaRI-ninja: guive it some time05:25
drogohIt hates you because you can't listen to suggestions.05:25
nmstryodayou need to edit your repositories to reflect what you really need05:25
I-ninjahow05:25
nmstryodadrogoh, well said05:25
nmstryoda!repos05:25
ubotuI heard repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96905:25
I-ninjawaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa05:26
nmstryodatry that for starters05:26
jroesoh my gosh05:26
I-ninjano!05:26
jroesplease05:26
jroeskick him05:26
jroes:(05:26
drogohI-ninja, Suck it up.  This isn't Windows.05:26
I-ninjai dont need that, all i want is to play my favorite games on linux05:26
I-ninjathats all i need05:26
tritiumI-ninja, please don't flood the channel with that05:26
I-ninjai dont need to study05:26
drogohYa know...05:26
dabaRI-ninja: alternatively, open synaptic, cilck on settings, then repos. In there, click the add button, check off all bozxes,. and say ok, then yes, and thats it.05:26
drogohYou need to learn.05:26
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tritiumI-ninja, don't expect anything in life to come that easily.05:27
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allisfreestrange thing. i enabled the "caps lock", but when i hit the key "e", it still lower in console. other key seems correct05:27
drogohEven though Ubuntu is one of the most user-friendly distributions out there, you actually need to think about your actions.05:27
s3[mn] rainwhenever I try and extract a cpio file it just gets stuck and doesnt do anything05:27
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jroesI-ninja: with the attitude you're taking to Linux, it is unlikely that you will ever get to "play your favorite games in linux."  in fact, with just that attitude in life in general you are never going to get anything you want.05:28
drogohIn my opinion, gaming is one of the most annoying things to even mess with (commercial games, that is)05:28
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tritiumdrogoh, agreed05:28
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dabaRI never help ppl that wanna play games.05:28
drogohLoki had a good thing but Scott Draeker was a douche.05:28
dabaRjust cause I dont do it myself, and dont know what to do.05:28
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drogohSo now we have UT2004 and Doom 3. :p05:28
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tritiumI-ninja, just be thankful you have time to play games in the first place05:29
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drogohAmen to that.05:29
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MarkSharkDebian/Ubuntu package question: Is there an easy to compare a package to what you have installed, to detect configuration file changes, for example?05:29
drogohIt's 23:30 and I'm still working.05:29
nmstryodatritium, here here05:29
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Blue1kquestion about compiling...getting a weird error during make05:30
drogohqt2, Hardware. :p05:30
qt2err, strke slightly, i meant extremly.05:30
nmstryodaqt2,  have you updated?05:30
ksmurf!java05:30
ubotumethinks java is to install Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats05:30
I-ninjawhat is APT?05:30
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nmstryoda!apt05:30
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, apt is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto05:30
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dabaRadvanced package tool05:30
I-ninjawhat am i gonna type on APT05:30
Blue1kcan anyone decipher this error: error: unknown register name %mm0 in asm05:30
drogohYou're going to type man apt first.05:30
_jasonqt2: firefox?05:30
drogoh;/05:30
tritiumBlue1k, what is it?05:30
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qt2drogoh: what hardware would you think would be causing that? everything seems to be working fine to me, and up till recently has been smooth sailing.05:31
nmstryodaI-ninja, try info apt05:31
Blue1kcompiling gimpshop05:31
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qt2nmstryoda: update in what sense?05:31
allisfreestrange thing. i enabled the "caps lock", but when i hit the key "e", it still lower in console. other key seems correct05:31
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sproingieBlue1k: ouch.  what kind of CPU do you have?05:31
qt2_jason: among other apps, yes.05:31
jroesBlue1k: sounds like you're compiling on the wrong arch05:31
nmstryodaqt2, as in you using breezy or hoary?05:31
Blue1kAMD XP 270005:31
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drogohqt2, "random segfaults" always lead me towards memory, unless it's something mojo bad wrong in libc.05:31
nmstryodaqt2, and updating to latest patches...05:31
sproingieBlue1k: try adding -march=k7 to your CFLAGS05:31
dunja?ello, is anyone else having problems updating to firefox05:31
nmstryodadrogoh, or overheating chips... like video05:31
MizutsukiI have a hardware issue, I'm trying to get a wifi card working on my laptop, I'm a linux newb, it's a D-link DWL-G650, can anyone help?05:32
Blue1kya I've never had this before...I just compiled avidemux fine05:32
_jasondunja:  what kind of problems?05:32
I-ninjawaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa05:32
drogohnmstryoda, True.05:32
drogohI-ninja, Die.05:32
tritiumI-ninja, please stop.05:32
dabaR15146314537 183/topic05:32
dabaRoops05:32
dunja_jason: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/var/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions.d/00classic', which is also in package firefox05:32
dunjaE: /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox-gnome-support_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/libmozgnome.so', which is also in package firefox-gnome-support05:32
I-ninjai cant install wine05:32
tritiumdrogoh, too harsh, dude.  Please be nice.05:32
Blue1kmarch or mach05:32
tritiumdunja, no pasting please05:32
sproingieBlue1k: actually the cflags might not do it.  it could be the compile making bad CPU assumptions05:32
drogohSorry. :)05:32
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I-ninjawhat am i gonna put oN APT!!!!!!!!!!!!!05:32
dunjasorry05:32
I-ninjai click on add05:32
I-ninjai click on custom05:32
qt2nmstryoda: hoary, and yes, i'm up to date.05:32
thrice`I-ninja, don't be retarded05:32
Blue1kahh...how come for gimpshop and not another source?05:32
I-ninjanow asked me for APT05:32
tritiumthanks, jroes05:32
nmstryodadrogoh, i had that happen playing bzflag... oops, game... but cooling fan died on the video card... replaced with static heat pipe... all better now05:32
_jasondunja:  killall firefox-bin05:32
I-ninjawhat the05:32
sproingieBlue1k: does it give you a source line in a .c file or a .S file?05:33
dabaRI-ninja: you went off road a little05:33
I-ninjathis is so frustrating05:33
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dabaRI-ninja: You dont want custom.05:33
thrice`I-ninja, 3 people pointed you in the direction05:33
dunjathanks _jason, i'll try it now05:33
qt2drogoh: hm, well, i've tried differnet memory, might applications segfault if another app is using say, far too much of hte cpu or memory?05:33
Mizutsukijesus, this place is too full, can I get someone who knows ubuntu to PM with me?05:33
thoreauputic!tell I-ninja about docs05:33
thrice`linux won't spoon feed...learn some things yourself05:33
Blue1k.c05:33
nmstryodaI-ninja, do you read or just copy/paste everything you say?05:33
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thoreauputicI-ninja: time to do some reading05:33
nmstryodarpm spoiled children05:33
drogohqt2, The only reason they would segfault would be if it OOM'd.05:34
_jasondunja:  it should work... to be on the safe side I personally removed all the firefox packages and reinstalled them... (make sure you get gnome-desktop back too bnecause that is removed)05:34
tritiumMizutsuki, please ask your question in the channel.  That will maximize the probability of you getting a good answer anyway.05:34
dunja_jason, it did not work, same error. i tried restarting the compiter too05:34
sproingieBlue1k: sounds like they hardwired some asm into the c file that isn't for your arch.  make sure you have the right sources. could check the .c file and see if it's #ifdef'd properly05:34
Mizutsukitritium - I did, and was ignored05:34
nmstryodaMizutsuki, ask again05:34
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drogohMizutsuki, Wait for a break in the waves and cast your line again.05:34
sproingieBlue1k: only way to know for sure is to pull up that .c file and see if there's inline asm05:34
allisfreestrange thing. i enabled the "caps lock", but when i hit the key "e", it still lower in console. other key seems correct05:34
drogohI did that last night.05:34
_jasondunja:  after you kill te process you should be able to start firefox05:34
qt2drogoh: OOM'd?05:35
MizutsukiI'm trying to instal a D-link DWL-G650 wifi PCMCIA card, and it isn't working, I'm a newb...05:35
drogohqt2, Out of memory.05:35
_jasondunja:  if you want to reinstall then you need to remove your firefox packages and then reinstall them05:35
jroesqt2: out of memory05:35
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Mizutsukican anyone help?05:35
sudonimI am looking in the package manager for snes emulators - what is the difference between gsnes9x and snes9express. gsnes9x has a gnome front end and snes9express has a gtk+ front end. Which is better?05:35
Blue1kthe full error is this:05:35
bimberiMizutsuki: check to see if your card (and possibly instructions) is listed here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards05:35
Blue1kgimp-composite-mmx.c:94: error: unknown register name %mm0 in asm05:35
MarkSharkMizutsuki: What has happened so far?05:35
thoreauputicMizutsuki: try telling us what you did, and what error messages you have05:35
dunja_jason, but it won't let me update to 1.07 and it won't even open05:35
I-ninjazzzzzzzzzzzz05:35
Mizutsukibimberi - it is, but I don't understand the instructions05:35
allisfreeyou don't have the problem?05:35
tritiumI-ninja, stop pasting that nonsense05:35
qt2ah, i see... well, running a game in wine and doing other stuff at the same time seems to be the main time stuff segfaults ^.^;05:35
nmstryoda_jason, dunja you might have bad chrome folder/extension... deleteing profile or starting Firefox with new clean profile might help05:35
specialbuddyhow do I play .mov files on firefox05:36
nmstryodafirefox -ProfileManager05:36
Mizutsukithoreau - no, no errors, it just doesn't work05:36
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dunja_jason, sorry i am very very new at this, how can i do this? or how can i delete all firefox packages?05:36
specialbuddyhow do I play .mov files on firefox?05:36
thoreauputicI-ninja: rather soon the ops patinece with you will rub out05:36
sproingieBlue1k: i dunno gas's nasty syntax, but i'm guessing that's a mmx register.  which SHOULD work on your cpu, but maybe it wants different syntax for it?05:36
Blue1kI compiled this source fine in hoary..can't do it in breezy though05:36
nmstryoda!tell specialbuddy about mplayer05:36
specialbuddyk05:36
Mizutsukithoreau - though I have no idea how to install hardware in linux... I'm a complete newb05:36
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nmstryoda!tell about repos05:36
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sproingieBlue1k: this might be one of those times where a precompiled binary is good to start with05:36
_jasondunja pm05:36
nmstryoda!tell about specialbuddy about repos05:36
nmstryoda!tell specialbuddy about repos05:37
nmstryoda!repos05:37
uboturepos is, like, totally, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96905:37
nmstryodadang it05:37
Blue1kya true enough...I'll look for a deb05:37
drogohMizutsuki, Have you tried ndiswrapper?05:37
nmstryodaspecialbuddy, look at that too.05:37
I-ninjaUbuntu is easy when u just wanna surf and chat but the installation method sucks! big time! debian installation suck!, ill rather have a distro who only use RPM its easy05:37
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Blue1kweird thing is I just did it in Hoary :(05:37
Mizutsukidragoh - what's that?05:37
Blue1kBreezy hates me05:37
specialbuddyI know how to do that05:37
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drogohI-ninja, It's only because you don't want to read.05:37
qt2drogoh: how would i check to see if something is OOMing?05:37
nmstryodaBlue-Box, nah.. it doesn't05:37
dabaRI-ninja: stop saying things like that if you want help.05:37
Blue1koh..question05:37
ksmurfwell installing java that way is not hard at all, if I can do it....05:37
thoreauputicMizutsuki: try tab completing nicknames - I only saw your last post by accident05:37
specialbuddyI want to know why I can't see .mov on firefox05:37
drogohqt2, Watch top.05:38
drogoh(for one)05:38
nmstryodaBlue1k, it's just still in development05:38
ksmurfdo you have it linked?05:38
Blue1kcan I use the deb package I made in hoary for gimpshop in breeazy05:38
drogohAnd watch /var/log/messages too.05:38
tritiumI-ninja, rpm is inferior05:38
Blue1kya I know05:38
nmstryodaspecialbuddy, you need the restricted formats05:38
sproingietritium: let's not feed the trolls05:38
Mizutsukithoreauputic - I think it's an issue in that there isn't a device in the /dev/ but I could be wrong05:38
specialbuddywhat does that mean?05:38
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MadpilotPPCI-ninja, Synaptic is hard to use? Really?05:38
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Mizutsukithoreauputic - the thing is that it looks like the drivers are in the kernal or whatever05:38
tritiumsproingie, indeed ;)05:38
I-ninjayajh very hard05:38
drogohMadpilotPPC, Pah, he wants people to spoon feed him.05:39
I-ninjacant understand how can i install wine out of it05:39
nmstryodaspecialbuddy, look at that repository link above05:39
I-ninjaso HARD! BIG TIME05:39
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I-ninjadam it05:39
CarolynHey05:39
Mizutsukithis channel is maddeningly overfull05:39
nmstryoda!restrictedformats05:39
uboturestrictedformats is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'05:39
nicotinhi05:39
Blue1kbad to use the deb I made in hoary for breezy?05:39
Carolynhow are you guys doin?05:39
nmstryodaspecialbuddy, see taht05:39
tritiumI-ninja, last warning, really05:39
thoreauputicMizutsuki: if you can find out the driver/ module name you can do "sudo modprobe <modulename> " to install it05:39
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nmstryodaCarolyn, hello ... busy05:39
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nmstryoda=)05:39
Mizutsukithoreauputic - I don't know what any of that means05:40
MarkSharkBluekl: Breezy is using a whole new version of gcc that is very new. That05:40
dabaRI-ninja: to get help here, you need to know what exactly you want. Not for example, I want to play windows games. Not eevn I want to install wine. You need to ask questions like, where is wine? Universe. How can I enable Universe? It is shown here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto .05:40
nmstryodaok thanks dabaR05:40
I-ninjatritium just tell me how do u install and play games on ur Ubuntu no more dam sites that u gave to me05:40
allisfreestrange thing. i enabled the "caps lock", but when i hit the key "e", it still lower in console. other key seems correct05:40
specialbuddyI already added repositories05:40
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_jasondunja:  still there?05:40
Blue1kya I know..I installed 3.4 as well05:40
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MarkSharkBluekl: For that reason, it's not that surprising that it would work in Hoary, but not Breezy.05:40
drogohHm.05:40
qt2well, no sign of OOMs...05:40
nicotinsomeone speak spanish?05:40
nmstryodatritium, thanks05:41
tritiumI-ninja, don't be insistent and rude.  You need to read the help we give you.05:41
Blue1kI guess I could try my package in breezy and see what happens05:41
tritiumIf you can't help yourself, we can't help you either.05:41
sdaliDoes anyone know if I can copy my cached packages to another Ubuntu box, and edit the sources.list file so it won't have to re-download them from the internet?05:41
nmstryoda!tell nicotin es05:41
drogohThe ndiswrapper list shows the DWL-G650 as supported.05:41
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Hikaru79How can I create my own mime-type? I have a bunch of .sgf files which I am sick of Ubuntu being convinced that it is just a plain text file, and opening them with gedit. How can I setup a new MIME type, anyone?05:41
thoreauputic!es05:41
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:41
Mizutsukidrogoh - yeah, that's what's confusing me... it's not working05:41
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Hikaru79!mime05:41
ubotuHikaru79: Are you smoking crack?05:41
Blue1kthanks guys...I'll try my deb and see if it works05:41
sdaliAnd BTW, where are the cached pkgs kept?05:41
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drogohAh, hm.05:41
MarkSharksdali: I've never tried it, but I think it would work.05:41
tritium/var/cache/apt/archives, sdali05:41
nargsdali: apt-cache? :p05:42
sdalithnks05:42
CarolynI just got the 5.10 version of UBUNTU05:42
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specialbuddyI just want to know how to see .mov files on firefox05:42
dabaRwoohoo...:-/05:42
sdaliI'll man apt-cache. Thx05:42
nmstryodaCarolyn, as in downloaded?05:42
tritiumCarolyn, a pre-release, actually05:42
Carolynmailed I'm checkin it out05:42
nmstryodacool05:42
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nmstryodaBreezy is pretty nice05:42
Carolynthis is a pre release?05:42
allisfreeSomeone?05:42
nmstryodaer, yes05:42
Sonny_Wertzikanoyine know where i can get some new GRUB boot screens besides gnome-look05:42
jbroomeyes05:42
naliothCarolyn: until oct 13, yes05:42
dabaRCarolyn: are you sure you got a 5.10 in the mail?05:42
specialbuddywhat's the difference between breezy and the one now05:43
Carolynyeah I"m pretty sure I got it in the mail05:43
tritiumbreezy is the new one, specialbuddy05:43
tritiumCarolyn, breezy has not mailed to anyone05:43
specialbuddyI know that, tritium05:43
thrice`Carolyn, impossible =] 05:43
CarolynI opened the package :)05:43
specialbuddyI just want to know what's special about it05:43
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allisfreetritium: strange thing. i enabled the "caps lock", but when i hit the key "e", it still lower in console. other key seems correct05:43
Carolynsomehow it is05:43
nmstryodaCarolyn, what color is the packaging?05:43
tritiumgnome 2.12, for starters, specialbuddy05:43
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WebLOCHallo05:43
tritiumallisfree, that's just crazy, dude05:44
specialbuddywhat else05:44
dabaRhey05:44
nmstryodaWebLOCH, heyya05:44
thom_hello05:44
Carolynthe intel one is red with five clothed people05:44
thoreauputicCarolyn: did you order from another supplier or through Ubuntu itself?05:44
Blue1kanyone from Vancouver area..me and Rule are putting together a release party or night out05:44
nmstryodaah, 5.04... Hoary05:44
Carolynthe AMD one is yellow with the same five clothed people05:44
thom_can someone offer me a tip05:44
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CarolynUbuntu itself05:44
calcthom_: don't take candy from strangers :)05:44
thoreauputicCarolyn: sounds like 5.0405:44
thrice`thom_, not if you don't ask a question05:44
nmstryodaright... discs are red for i38605:44
Carolynohhhhh05:44
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Carolynmy bad it is05:44
Carolyn:/05:44
nmstryodanp05:44
Sonny_WertzikClothed hehehehe05:44
thoreauputicCarolyn: OK05:44
specialbuddywhere can I read about the changes in breezy05:45
dooglusallisfree: if you run a "vi" in the console, and type stuff with capslock on, save the file, then view it in gnome, is the 'e' still small?05:45
CarolynI was thinking of the article I read on Slashdot early this morning about Ubuntu 5.1005:45
specialbuddyand how can I watch .mov files with firefox05:45
nmstryodaCarolyn, easy upgrade though to pre-release breezy05:45
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CarolynI hope they send me that too!05:45
thom_i got colony cd 5 installed05:45
dabaRspecialbuddy: read the forums on the diffs.05:45
dooglusspecialbuddy: nothing much changed05:45
hjk57i tried the upgrade, and wasn't too happy05:45
nmstryodaCarolyn, you have to place order for that05:45
specialbuddyok05:45
thom_notebook with nvidia works great05:45
hjk57fresh install of breezy was much better for me05:45
Carolynoh more orders for it?05:45
Carolyncool05:45
nmstryodathom_, yea05:45
nmstryodayup05:45
specialbuddydoes mandriva use .rpm05:45
thoreauputictritium: I thought people from New Mexico were loco anyway ? /me runs05:46
linnernalioth: tritium: aftertaf: thoreauputic: hey guys :)05:46
tritiumdooglus, there are lots of improvements05:46
nmstryodaspecialbuddy, yes05:46
dabaRdoes specialbuddy use google?05:46
thoreauputichi linner :)05:46
Blue1kyes to mandriva05:46
linner:)05:46
neotrophyI have a problem with KDM.  When I log in, it starts a brings up a blank, grey X session, then drops back to the login prompt.  GDM work fine (execpt that it doesn't seem to be able to remember my last session type)05:46
thom_i installed the special packages which gave me older kernel headers as dependencies i think05:46
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nmstryodalinner, any luck?05:46
Sonny_Wertzikanoyine know where i can get some new GRUB boot screens besides gnome-look?05:46
dooglustritium: yes, but nothing major.05:46
allisfreeno, i can input upcase E with shift+e05:46
linnerthat wasn't very nice tritium05:46
linner:)05:46
CarolynAh well05:46
dooglusthe biggest thing you'll notice probably is that office apps take about twice as long to start up05:46
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tritiumdooglus, laptop support is quite improved, dooglus05:46
thom_how can i best get the older kernel out of grub and out of src/05:46
tritiumthoreauputic, heh :)05:46
thoreauputic:)05:47
CarolynI am still in the process of dual booting Windows with Fedora core 405:47
nmstryodadooglus, really? mine are faster now with latest patches in breezy05:47
WebLOCHSonny_Wertzik, how are you applying them?05:47
specialbuddywhy is .rpm so easy05:47
dooglustritium: is it?  I ran hoary and breezy on the same laptop and they're both fine, tritium05:47
tritiumthoreauputic, by the way, you might have a point ;)05:47
dooglusnmstryoda: I don't run them often.05:47
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Hobbseetritium: really?  i didnt notice it when i upgraded, then came back05:47
nmstryodak05:47
thrice`which udev does ubuntu plan to ship with ?05:47
thoreauputictritium: hahah :D05:47
thom_hoary would not install ever on my vaio05:47
tritiumdooglus, Hobbsee, yes05:47
Sonny_WertzikWebLOCH, im not sure what u mean?05:47
nmstryodawell breezy is sweet on my 2 laptops05:47
thrice`070 is acting weird05:47
nmstryodanew and old tech05:47
MizutsukiI was wondering if there was anyway that ubuntu supports my laptop's s-video out?05:47
thom_but breezy works real good05:47
WebLOCHSonny_Wertzik, how are you applying the splash screens, Upower?  Splashy?05:48
Hobbseetriium: guess you've given me a reason to upgrade then...05:48
Blue1kbreezy works fine on my widescreen Compaq05:48
Carolynwell05:48
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rob^WebLOCH, just theme usplash05:48
CarolynI am excited about it anyhow05:48
tritiumHobbsee, cool05:48
nmstryodaMizutsuki, does it have a nice video card?... my ATI on my old dell works05:48
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Blue1kok..my gimpshop deb I made in hoary kicks ass in breezy05:48
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CarolynI was hoping there would be more stuff on this Ubuntu disc05:48
Sonny_WertzikWebLOCH, um ...i guess while all the drivers and stuff are loading05:48
Hobbseeshoot...how do it do that with the debs of openoffice beta 130?05:48
Blue1kproblem solved05:48
thom_anyone: can synaptic remove the older kernel from grub and the file ??05:48
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Hobbseecan i remove them?05:48
nmstryodaBlue-Box, is it better than Gimp?05:48
dooglusspecialbuddy: this page is good for seeing what's new in breezy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyGoals?highlight=%28breezy%2905:48
rob^Carolyn, as it is the cd is full up05:48
nmstryodaor just new face?05:48
WebLOCHrob^, yeah i installed it a few days ago05:48
Sonny_WertzikWebLOCH, is that what splashy means?05:49
Mizutsukinmstryoda - not sure, it's an IBM thinkpad T2205:49
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rob^nmstryoda, just a nre face05:49
JonnyRoIs there any specific reason why there are 352 updates waiting after a fresh install of breezy?  is there a new CD out that already has the updates?05:49
WebLOCHrob^, but I changed kernel and now I cant find it/install i05:49
rob^new even..05:49
Blue1knot better just has the interface of Photoshop05:49
nmstryodarob^, cool05:49
thoreauputic!tell Carolyn about synaptic05:49
Carolynrob, live CD05:49
specialbuddythanx, dooglus05:49
calcJonnyRo: breezy isn't released yet05:49
adamhI don't have color ink. How can I print a PDF in grayscale, even though my printer (Canon S520) is color?05:49
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thoreauputic!tell Carolyn about docs05:49
Blue1kJonnyRo its because its in dev05:49
StrogJonnyRo: breezy is a moving target. The CD is a snapshot05:49
calcJonnyRo: the colony's are just snapshots05:49
nmstryodalol05:49
Strogheh05:49
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transparentdreamHow do I use Remote Desktop? Trying to connect to another computer, but don;t know how to work it05:49
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lawmanwhats everone think of ubuntu?   Just loaded it05:50
neotrophyadamh: S520 is a bitch to get working well.05:50
thrice`hrm...breezy is using some ollld stuff05:50
thrice`i hope it updates udev05:50
nmstryoda!remotedesktop05:50
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, nmstryoda05:50
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thrice`and grub05:50
tritiumlawman, it rocks!05:50
nmstryodagrrr05:50
adamhneotrophy: It works perfectly for me, except I don't actually *have* color ink :P05:50
CarolynI like the Intro music to Ubuntu05:50
JonnyRoare there nightly snapshots out?05:50
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lawmanIm loving it too......wireless rocks!!05:50
adamhCould ghostscript perhaps convert a colour PDF to grayscale?05:50
rob^transparentdream, System -> Preferences -> Remote desktpo05:50
JonnyRoeither way, in the short term i'll set up a proxy, so i can not have to download these updates for every machine05:50
adamh(It's late, I need to just print this and sleep)05:50
rob^pfft my typing sucks today05:50
Blue1kif anyone wants to try gimpshop I can send it to you...it works for me in hoary and breezy...so much nicer than standard gimp05:50
thrice`JonnyRo, well, snapshot 5 was JUST out (like today or yesterday)05:50
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neotrophyadamh: so long as you don't mind 600x600dpi resolution05:50
thrice`the RC's are soon to come05:50
thom_Carolyn: what music?05:51
dabaRannoying scrolling channel05:51
transparentdreamrob^, my friend and i's thing says the same thing05:51
JonnyRothrice`, thanks, i'll download the new ISO, this cd is from about 4 days ago05:51
linnerrob^ : are you the same rob that I spoke to this morning?05:51
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rob^linner, probably..05:51
thrice`JonnyRo, if you've got it installed, just update05:51
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linnerrob^: do you recognize my nick?05:51
Blue1kya..update works fine05:51
rob^transparentdream, you have to enable it first05:51
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dooglusdoes anyone know how to build libraries?05:51
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calcJonnyRo: i have 66 updated packages from just today on my machine (upgraded yesterday too)05:51
baconid like to see it bluelk05:51
linnerrob^: we talked about my system clock all haywire...05:51
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neotrophyI have a problem with KDM.  When I log in, it starts a brings up a blank, grey X session, then drops back to the login prompt.  GDM work fine (execpt that it doesn't seem to be able to remember my last session type).  Anyone got any ideas?05:52
Sonny_WertzikWebLOCH, ya still there?05:52
JonnyRocalc, thrice` , will do05:52
transparentdreamrob^, it is enabled05:52
tritiumlinner, Burgundavia is having that problem too05:52
specialbuddycan you play .mov files on ubuntu05:52
Blue1ksure..I'll upload it to my webspace...PM me for the link05:52
JonnyRoOpenOffice 2 is a nice addition05:52
linnertritium: really?  mine's still not working right05:52
JonnyRoany news on the Totem sound issues?05:52
calcspecialbuddy: totem-xine can play just about anything05:52
JonnyRodid that get resolved in this release?05:52
calctotem-gstreamer is more limited in what it can play05:52
thoreauputic!tell specialbuddy about restricted05:52
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transparentdreamrob^, how do I actualy ececute the remote desktop program?05:53
rob^transparentdream, then use Applications -> Internet -> Terminal server client05:53
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specialbuddyk05:53
thoreauputictritium: I saw it long ago as a kid :)05:53
thechrisso, installed ubuntu today. gdm crashes...05:53
thechrisany easy fix05:53
tritiumthoreauputic, you've been here?  cool!05:53
transparentdreamrob^, thanks! but what do I do now...05:53
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thoreauputictritium: I'd like to ski Taos though ;)05:53
Blue1kreinstall it thechris...05:54
tritiumthoreauputic, well, you're always welcome :)05:54
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thoreauputictritium: hottest chili I ever tasted *grin*05:54
dabaRBlue1k: you know this will help?05:54
tritiumthoreauputic, definitely :)05:54
rob^transparentdream, just stick in the ip address, a username and password and any other details you need then click connect05:54
Blue1keh?05:54
adamhHow can I convert a PDF to grayscale?05:54
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Arkainiumtritium, the problem was HAL.  I think it introduces more problems than it solves.  :/05:54
thechrisBlue1k: its a fresh install05:54
dabaRBlue1k: have you tried this before? do you hyave any reason to believe it will work?05:54
Blue1kyes05:54
tritiumArkainium, no kidding?  Not hdc?05:54
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transparentdreamrob^, does the ip address go in computer name? what username and password should i use? What should my friend do on his computer to accept the connection?05:55
Blue1kI had the same thing and instead of troubleshooting I reinstalled..worked05:55
Blue1kdid you check MD505:55
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dabaRBlue1k: really? ok.05:55
vinboywhat other fancy things can I do with ubuntu?05:55
JonnyRotritium, where you from?05:55
JonnyRotritium, i grew up in Pena blanca, NM05:55
tritiumJonnyRo, Albuquerque05:55
JonnyRobetween santa fe and albuquerque05:55
Arkainiumtritium, apparently HAL is polling hdc too early and that's what's causing the interrupt.  Who knows?  :P  But by disabling hal, everything works flawlessly.05:55
linnertritium: how did the other time problem get resolved?05:55
tritiumCool, JonnyRo :)05:56
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JonnyRotritium, i went to saint pius high school, class '9905:56
drogohvinboy, You can play Global Thermonuclear War.05:56
Blue1kdabar..may have a corrupted install05:56
tritiumlinner, not sure that it did.05:56
linnercrap05:56
rob^transparentdream, yes, and use a username/password from the remote system05:56
vinboydrogoh, really? where can i get it05:56
dabaRthechris: whats the graphics card?05:56
tritiumJonnyRo, no way.  I did too, class of 199205:56
transparentdreamok thank you rob^!05:56
rob^np05:56
drogohvinboy, Your local arms cache.05:56
drogoh;/05:56
drogohvinboy, Seriously, world domination is possible with Linux.05:57
thechrisdabaR: nvidia 680005:57
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adamhah, found it: pdf2ps -sDEVICE=psgray -r300 input.pdf05:57
drogohYou only need two things: /bin/tcsh and /usr/bin/perl05:57
Blue1kfood time...05:57
dabaRthechris: how does gdm crash? do you ever get to the part where you type a user name?05:57
attyhow to install sun-j2re1.5?05:58
rob^!java05:58
ubotujava is probably to install Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats05:58
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baconatty -> The package misteriously disappeared from backports repository it seems05:58
transparentdreamrob^, should i just put the ip address or some extenstion too?05:58
dabaRatty: do you have a file on your computer called that?05:58
rob^just the ip05:58
thechrisdabaR: i can log in, but gnome never loads (it crashed)05:58
attynope05:58
baconi can give you a manuel way to install the jre05:58
thechrisdabaR: and if i click anything it crashes05:58
thechrisdabaR: the keyboard stops responding but the mouse still works05:59
dabaRthechris: so you get that little message box saying it crashed in less than 1- secs?05:59
rob^the manual way to install java is on that page05:59
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attyi did try try sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.505:59
ShagWillhi05:59
transparentdreamok05:59
attybut say coldn't find package05:59
ShagWilldoes ubuntu is bootable from a firewire disk on a mac ?05:59
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dabaRatty: it is not installable through synaptic atm, unless you have some weird repiository enabled. read that page to see what you can find.05:59
thoreauputic!tell atty about sunjava05:59
thechrisdabaR: nope05:59
sudonimShagWill: It should be :)06:00
eagleyeanyone know how to run a .asf streaming video06:00
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thoreauputic!sunjava06:00
sudonimShagWill: Do you know how to tell the mac to boot from a firewire drive?06:00
ubotuFor Sun-Java debs add this line to your /etc/apt/sources.list (for hoary) deb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ hoary java  ; or go to seveas.ubuntulinux.nl (for Breezy)06:00
rob^have a look at the page and see for yourself..06:00
dabaRthechris: what, the gdm screen shows up, asking you for user name and password, right?06:00
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esacwhat can i install to play pcm-coded .wav files ? i tried installing every gstreamer plugin with no luck, and aplay doesnt play them either06:00
ShagWillsudonim: I just tried with Gentoo distro but I'm having difficulties06:00
Bicchii have a usb pen drive that doesn't want to mount. i even think its not even been detected at all. how do i troubleshoot it?06:00
sudonimShagWill: I believe you have to hold down Apple-T when the computer is booting up.06:00
rob^ouch, Seveas shouldn't be offering his own packages for things06:01
attybrb06:01
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attywant to try ubotu style06:01
ShagWillsudonim: it will boot as a firewire slave mode06:01
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transparentdreamrob^, why isn;t it working? Do i need special ports disabled in my firewall?06:01
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linner!ndiswrapper06:01
ubotumethinks ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wirless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper06:01
thechrisdabaR: yes.  i get gdm up.  but clicking anything, or loging in will cause a crash06:01
rob^transparentdream, could be any number of things like that06:01
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eagleyeDoes anyone know how to run a .asf streaming video, Can anyone help06:02
rob^transparentdream, just play around with the settings06:02
dabaRthechris: what does the crash do, any error messages?06:02
baconbtw anybody knows why the jre packages are gone?06:02
tritiumlegal reasons06:03
drogoheagleye, mplayer plugin?06:03
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chris__i have a blitzz wireless super g router that works fine in windows, but i cannot connect  to gaim or x-chat in ubuntu can anyone help ?06:03
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thechrisdabaR: when i tried to set session to "gnome" the option "gnome" stayed pressed in.  and then it was like moving the mouse over a screenshot -- couldn't click anything and kbd didn't respond, not even capslock06:03
whyameyeeagleeye, does totem-xine play them?06:04
sudonimShagWill: doing a quick google search looks like you need YaBoot06:04
rob^!java06:04
ubotufrom memory, java is to install Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats06:04
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esacwhat can i install to play pcm-coded .wav files ? i tried installing every gstreamer plugin with no luck, and aplay doesnt play them either06:05
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rob^ubotu no java is to install Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-55315677ab8f9890825549fa2ecebdde4bc6808706:05
ubotuokay, rob^06:05
capiCrimmWhat is my .emacs file(where can i find it)?06:05
rob^!sunjava06:06
ubotuFor Sun-Java debs add this line to your /etc/apt/sources.list (for hoary) deb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ hoary java  ; or go to seveas.ubuntulinux.nl (for Breezy)06:06
rob^ubotu no sunjava is for instructions on installing Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats06:06
ubotuokay, rob^06:06
dabaRcapiCrimm: a .something file is usually a config file of some sort. they are also known as hidden files, and nautilus, or even ls in a terminal does not show them. how often do you use a teminal?06:07
dabaRrob^: dont do that06:07
dabaRrob^: or, better, why did you do that?06:07
rob^because its more correct06:07
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dabaRsays you.06:08
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capiCrimmdabaR, I'm fine with a terminal. I'm just not sure what they want by .emacs, I'massuming something in /etc/emacs*?06:08
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predius_can anyone help me setting up a dual head on xorg?06:08
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rob^you shouldn't tell people to install unofficial debian packages06:08
dabaRnow we have two things same name06:08
hari`So /usr/share/dict/words points to a dangling alternatives symlink.  Is there a proper dpkg fix, or just bang some illicit copy into the right spot?06:08
whyameyecapiCrimm, I would have guessed that .emacs would be in your home directory.06:09
rob^you should be pointing people to the correct reference on the wiki06:09
transparentdreamWhat's a very easy remote desktop application to use besides ubuntu's??06:09
dabaRcapiCrimm: open a temrinal, use ls -a and see whether you have a .emacs there06:09
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dabaRrob^: ok.06:09
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rob^pretty simple really dabaR06:09
whyameyecapiCrimm: type ls -al in your home directory and see if it is there...06:10
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capiCrimmdabaR, not in /etc or /home, I did a locate found a few files w/ .emacs extension but no .emacs file?06:10
thom_hey where are the kernels located?06:10
eagleyeDoes anyone know how to run a .aspx streaming video, Can anyone help06:11
dabaRcapiCrimm: where did you get this? this maybe a preference file for emacs...like, you wont have a .exrc file in your ~, but if you make one, vi will use it.06:11
capiCrimmthom_, http://kernel.org/06:11
whyameyeit would be in /home/capiCrimm (or whatever your username on your box is), or the shortcut is ~. So type cd ~ , then type ls -al.06:11
thom_i mean in file system?06:11
thom_i need to remove it06:11
dabaRhehe06:11
dabaRthom_: youre gona remove your kernel?06:11
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thom_yep06:11
dabaRdo you know what a kernel does?06:12
hari`whyameye: capiCrimm:  (ls -ld ~/.emacs*)06:12
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thom_i run without them06:12
jediwhat is the best way to install jdk 1.5 on breezy?06:12
rob^ubotu tell jedi about java06:12
tritiumjedi, use the force06:12
thom_i got the newer one there so there are 206:12
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dabaRa kernel is the part of your operating system that interfaces with your shell, and with the hardware. you have to use one. anyhow, when you boot, it will ask you which of the installed kernels you want to boot.06:13
thom_at least grub lists 2 version numbers06:13
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capiCrimmhari` no such file, dabdaR so just make a .emacs file? following...06:13
capiCrimmhttp://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/cgi-bin/blosxom.cgi the SLIME part06:13
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thom_well im on breezy and i did the nvidia upgrade.06:13
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hari`capiCrimm, you don't NEED a .emacs file, but if someone's suggesting things to go in one, then you can create one.06:13
thom_the latest kernel is broken with that06:14
jedicheers rob^06:14
vladuz976anybody here know how i can use Xnest i get the error that server is already running on display 006:14
dabaRcapiCrimm: what editor do you like? gedit is fine?06:14
hari`capiCrimm, best way to learn emacs is to CAREFULLY READ the text that shows up when you start emacs.06:14
dabaRvladuz976: how are you trying to use it? do you use gnome?06:14
hari`So /usr/share/dict/words points to a dangling alternatives symlink.  I've googled other complaints about this, but no proper fix.  Is there a proper dpkg fix, or just bang some illicit copy into the right spot?06:14
vladuz976dabaR, dabaR i am in gnome now yes, and i started from the terminal06:15
capiCrimmdabaR, I'm normally a vim guy, just wanted to know if .emacs was what I thought it was. Thanks.06:15
dabaRvladuz976: you have installed xnest?06:15
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vladuz976dabaR, yes06:15
vladuz976dabaR, just installed it06:15
dabaRvladuz976: Apps>System TOols>New login in nested window06:15
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dooglushari`: breezy?  hoary?06:16
dabaRvladuz976: || gdmflexiserver --xnest06:16
thom_dabaR: i installed nvidia upgrade with synaptics not apt. It downloaded an earlier kernel dependency06:16
hari`dooglus, hoary.06:16
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dooglushari`: I don't know then, sorry.06:17
thom_on breezy here06:17
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vladuz976dabaR, and then how can i use gdb to debug? i am trying to find out what's going on with my other wm06:17
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thom_i cant seem to find the kernels. isnt it usr/src/linux06:17
dabaRvladuz976: this is something very diff from your initial question, ask the channel.06:17
nibblesmxcan anyone tell me how can i change the bootsplash in breezy?06:18
dooglusthom_: the kernel SOURCE would be in /usr/src if you installed it, but you don't have to06:18
thom_well i kind of do.06:18
vladuz976anybody know how i can use gdb and Xnest to debug my other wm?06:18
dooglusok, so install it06:18
thom_i got 2 different versions in there06:18
thom_im just cleaning06:18
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thom_only one works with nvidia06:19
dabaRthom_: you are cute....but thats wrong!06:19
dooglususually /usr/src/linux is a symbolic link06:19
thom_what?06:19
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dabaRhehe, thats a 2 stupid dogs reference.06:19
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dabaRI got my first glasses today.06:19
baconThe HD spindown time on laptop battery mode is 12 seconds... does anybody agree with me it's way too quick?06:20
dabaRI am not sure yet whether I se better, or worse with them.06:20
thom_i have 6 entries in grub06:20
hari`dooglus, to what does your breezy /usr/share/dict/words point?06:20
dabaRthom_: wanna see mine?06:20
thom_4 for kernels.06:20
dooglus/usr/share/dict/words -> /etc/dictionaries-common/words06:20
hari`bacon, not if you turn off amode writes.06:20
dooglushari`: and /etc/dictionaries-common/words -> /usr/share/dict/british-english06:21
thom_its just that i am using one xorg.conf correct?06:21
hari`Hrm.06:21
hari`dooglus, thanks.06:21
dooglushari`: and -rw-r--r--  1 root root 906950 2004-06-20 05:23 /usr/share/dict/british-english06:21
satafterhanyone know a program to convert divx to dvd06:21
hari`Yeah, as expected.  How can I tell what .deb created a given file?06:21
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dooglushari`: apt-file search <particular file>06:22
thom_im on 2.6.12-9-38606:22
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thom_with nvidia packages06:22
bimberihari`: or use the contents search on http://packages.ubuntu.com06:22
thom_its srewed up06:22
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hari`dooglus, heh, it doesn't consider apt-file to be important enough to install by default?06:23
thom_The upgrade is for the older kernel so i had to compile it myself06:23
dooglushari`: no.06:23
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dooglushari`: once you've installed it, do a "sudo apt-file update" to download the information it needs06:24
hari`dooglus, ugh.  this is the kind of stuff where I think rpm was simpler.  But thanks for your help learning apt.06:25
thom_at least badger installed correctly06:25
dooglusyou're welcome hari`  little secret: I have "rpm style" aliases for all of these...  for example, alias urpmf='apt-file search'06:26
thom_pcmcia for notebooks is fixed somewhat06:26
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chemisuswell06:27
chemisusim guessing its googles 7th birthday today heh06:27
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Hobbseechemisus: yep, looks like it06:27
whyameyeFirefox keeps mysteriously disappearing while I am browsing. I'm in Firefox, and I hit the back button and suddenly it is gone. Is this a known bug?06:28
hari`dooglus, if I wanted to remove dictionaries-common and reinstall it (hoping it would notice my now-specified locale), how would I do that?  I can't just -r due to dependencies.06:28
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dooglusapt notices your locale?06:29
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hari`If I read the complaints from various google whine sources, it looks like the problem arose because hoary installs stuff without actually establishing the locale until later.06:30
hari`dooglus, thus, your alternative is british-english, but mine would be something else.06:30
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dooglushari`: can't you just install language-pack-??06:31
dooglus(where ?? is your locale)06:31
hari`I dunno, what is yours?  en_GB?06:31
doogluslanguage-pack-cs and language-pack-en06:31
dooglusalias urpmq='apt-cache search'06:32
Dr_Willis:)06:32
hari`What would give you british-english, then?06:32
dooglusi think it's in the dependancies06:32
hari`As I'd want american-english (en-us).06:32
hari`language-pack-en is already the newest version.06:32
dooglusget language-pack-en and I think that gets you both british and american.06:33
dooglusoh.06:33
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chris__why is it that after approx. 24 hours my dns is restto192.168.1.106:33
BlankB!beginners guide06:33
ubotuBlankB: I don't know, could you explain it?06:33
BlankB!guide06:33
ubotuI don't know, BlankB06:33
dooglusso install 'wamerican'?06:33
cafuego_chris__: Are you overwriting resolv.conf manually?06:33
cafuego_wamerican contains incorrect spellings of words, don't use it.06:34
chris__no06:34
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cafuego_chris__: Using dhcp?06:34
calccafuego_: wbritish does too :)06:34
BlankB!User Guide06:34
ubotuBlankB: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!06:34
chris__yes06:34
hari`BlankB, try /msg ?06:34
BlankB8)06:34
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cafuego_chris__: Then I imagine the lease is renewed after 24 hours and the dhcp server tells you amchine to sue 192.168.1.1 as DNS.06:34
tristanmikeBlankB, what is it you're looking for?06:35
hari`dooglus, okay, that gave the american-english file, and fixed the symlink.  Thanks.06:35
bacon*tells your machine to use* that is06:35
calccafuego_: if that is the case he can edit the dhcp conf file to override what he is being sent (afaicr)06:35
chris__i can surf the web but i cannot connect to gaim or x-chat without manually putting back the dns numbers06:35
dooglusbut according to cafuego_, it's got some misspellings.06:35
cafuego_calc: Either that or edit resolv.conf and chattr +i it06:35
calcdooglus: british and american english do not spell words the same06:35
BlankBsorry...was just looking to see ubuntu had the equiv for gnome like kde has on the "KDE user guide"06:35
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calccafuego_: yea06:36
doogluscalc: I know!06:36
eagleyeDoes anyone know how to run a .aspx streaming video, Can anyone help06:36
doogluscalc: was that the point?  you shouldn't use wamerican 'cos it misses the 'u' out of 'colour'?06:36
cafuego_dooglus: Yes, it sues 'z' where it should be using 's' - that sort of error. makes the people who used it to spell-check look a bit simple.06:36
calciirc it was because british english evolved and american english did not (or at least is the case for some of the differences)06:36
naliotheagleye: Microsoft Streaming Server06:36
tristanmikeBlankB, what is the KDE user guide?06:36
calcdooglus: probably ;)06:36
doogluscafuego_: not simple, just american06:36
cafuego_dooglus: That's what I said.06:36
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hari`<cafuego_> dooglus: Yes, it sues [sic]  'z' where it should be using 's' - that sort of error. makes the people who used it to spell-check look a bit simple.06:36
hari`;)06:37
chris__what lease are you talking about06:37
dooglusheh06:37
BlankBtristanmike: Its like an overview of how to do everything.  Kinda like a beginners guide to the gui.06:37
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dooglusI'm English, and the missing 'u' in 'colour' and other such stuff annoyz me too.06:37
tristanmikeBlankB, do you have a website that I can look at?06:37
cafuego_chris__: The dhcp lease. When the dhcp server gives you an address, that's called a lease. They expire after a set amount of time.06:37
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matrixlook who's back (H)06:37
cafuego_dooglus: other zuch ztuff?06:37
dooglusyez06:38
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calchttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_and_British_English_differences06:38
BlankBtristanmike: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/userguide/index.html06:38
chris__but in windows i dont have this problem06:38
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dooglusthe absense of adverbs affects me particular bad.06:38
calcdooglus: fwiw color in american english isn't pronounced with a u either06:38
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cafuego_calc: it IS in english, not in american english.06:39
dooglusI was glad to see Locke correcting Kate in Lost last week when she used an adjective in place of an adverb.06:39
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tristanmikeBlankB, maybe this is the equivalent http://www.gnome.org/learn/06:39
calcThe -ise forms became more widespread in British English under 19th-century French influence, partly displacing the older -ize06:39
Dr_Willis"Lollies, Lollies, Lollies, get your adverbs here..."06:40
calcseems britian disliked the colonies splitting away so changed their language ;)06:40
calcwithout changing the name, heh06:40
BlankBtristanmike: thanks. That is exactly what I was looking for.06:40
cafuego_No, they just didn't stagnate. Languages ALWAYS change.06:41
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tristanmikeBlankB, ;) I have to say thanx too cause I really like that KDE page too.06:41
elkbuntuoh come on people, if we were to try and satisfy everyone's linguistic fetishes in this channel, every time we say something, it'd take an hour to write up in all the languages and dialects within the languages. it's ridiculous...06:41
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matrixok where's the file manager in ubuntu ?06:42
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dooglusmatrix: in the 'places' menu.06:42
dooglusplaces -> computer, for example06:42
tristanmikeor System tools06:42
tristanmikematrix, *06:42
matrixkk ty06:42
tristanmikematrix, Applications-->System Tools-->File Browser06:42
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matrixnow tell me how to create a dir for my windows partition so i can mount it there :)06:43
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dooglustristanmike: I wouldn't get too used to using that menu entry :)06:43
_jasonanyone know how to make the applets in gnome have a transparent background?  I make the panel transparent but the applets are still opaque.06:43
elkbuntuyou forgot the magic words, matrix06:43
matrixO.o06:43
matrixplease06:43
matrixO.o06:43
matrixnvm i did it in console06:43
dooglusmatrix: make a directory anywhere you like06:43
matrixalready did it in console ^^^06:44
matrix:)06:44
matrixcan u tell me how to mount my other hdd ?06:44
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=== calc likes the way british call numbers, eg milliard ;)
doogluscalc: we don't.06:44
attysorry guys..... i still can't install java using my terminal...06:44
attyany comment?06:45
hari`atty:  # this is a comment06:45
_jasonatty: add the repo and use synaptic?06:45
jbroomeatty: ; is also a comment06:45
doogluswe mostly use the american system, but traditionally 10^12 is a billion, 10^9 is a thousand million and 10^6 is a million.  no milliard anywhere06:45
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attyadd the repo? how?06:45
dooglus!tell atty about java06:46
_jasondooglus:  its not as bad as the 80 in french06:46
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dooglus"4 twenties"?06:46
_jasondooglus:  yeah... makes no sense to me06:46
helfire!tell helfire about java06:46
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matrixok i got a prob :|06:47
dooglusanother one?06:48
matrixwhy am i not root in my own system :|06:48
thrice`ok06:48
whyameyeevery time Firefox runs the mplayer plugin, Firefox crashes when I leave the page. Should I remove mplayer?06:48
dooglustell matrix about root06:48
protokol__somehow my gnome broke, is there a way to reinstall it from the liveCD without a reformat?06:48
dooglus!tell matrix about root06:48
maehas anyone tried banshee music player?06:48
thoreauputicmatrix: sudo -i06:48
Myrttimatrix: why on earth should you be root?06:48
protokol__gdm locks up with a black screen06:48
matrixcause its says i have to be so i can mount my drive06:48
thrice`sudo mount06:48
thoreauputicMyrtti: God complex ;-)06:48
matrixmatrix@ool-45774c8b:/root$ mount -t vfat32 /dev/hdd/Windows06:48
matrixmount: only root can do that06:48
matrixsee ?06:48
dooglusmatrix: so "sudo mount"06:49
thoreauputicmatrix: sudo mount -t blah blah06:49
Dr_WillisHmm your mount command is  wrong i think.06:49
whyameyematrix: type 'sudo' in front of whatever you wish to do.06:49
Stalwartuse google, Luke!06:49
elkbuntuopen the root terminal and put in your password06:49
dooglusmatrix: when it asks for the password, put yours06:49
MadpilotPPCmatrix, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive06:49
matrixum when i open the terminal it doesn't ask for my pass06:49
thoreauputicmatrix: *cough* >>>> sudo06:50
naliothmatrix: why would it?06:50
matrixelkbuntu open the root terminal and put in your password06:50
elkbuntulook in the applications menu, in system tools, up about 4 or 506:50
thoreauputicmatrix: if you *must* have a root shell, type sudo -i06:50
MadpilotPPCmatrix, use the regular terminal, not the root term06:50
protokol__i dont know what i did, i just installed some fonts06:51
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elkbuntuwhy not madpilotPPC, it's the same thing, just without having to type the word sudo06:51
protokol__i reverted everything i know i changed06:51
matrixi'm using the terminal from applications---system tools---terminal06:51
vladuz976is rsync a good way to make system backups, or is there another way?06:51
whyameyecan I setup firefox to use xine instead of mplayer?06:51
elkbuntumatrix look up about 4 or so in that menu06:51
MadpilotPPCelkbuntu, root term can get you in more trouble than sudo...06:51
elkbuntuno more than typing sudo before everything you do, will06:52
chris__how can i play msn videos in ubuntu06:52
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MadpilotPPCelkbuntu, but at least you actually have to type sudo every time...06:53
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elkbuntuit doesnt make it any safer, just 4 characters + password length longer06:53
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attyany short cut for installing jaya..... :D06:53
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_jasonatty: did you add find the repo?06:54
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whyameyevladuz976: I like rsync.06:54
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attyhow to add jason? i'm new in ubuntu or linux06:55
vladuz976whyameye, how do you backup the entire system with it? so i won't get /proc and stuff like that's on my cdrom in the backup?06:55
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_jasonatty: you want the java JRE right?06:55
matrixwhats "fstype" ?06:56
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attyyup.. i need to install limewire06:56
bratscheHi guys.  How do I determine what package owns a given file?06:56
_jasonatty: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list06:56
matrixThe command is `mount [-t fstype]  something somewhere'.06:56
matrix ???06:56
dooglusbratsche: apt-file search06:56
FaithXhow do I start an app as root in gnome?06:56
dooglusbratsche: or use http://packages.ubuntu.com/06:56
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hari`bratsche, (sudo apt-get install apt-file) (sudo apt-file update) (sudo apt-search /my/filename)06:57
thrice`matrix, of course; sudo mount <dev your are mounting> <where you are mounting it>06:57
hari`Thanks to dooglus for that.06:57
thrice`FaithX, sudo app06:57
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Wilfi have a 333mhz AMD K6-2 64MB ram machine here, however it is running _wayyyy_ too slow, even for it's specs, ubuntu doesn't detect how much ram or the cpu in device manager, any way i can fix this?>06:57
attythe list are empty06:57
dooglushari`: are you a LISP programmer?06:57
_jasonthat's empty?06:57
whyameyevladuz976: I've only used it to copy my home directory.06:57
attyyup06:57
FaithXthrice`, yup, but it doesn't ask for a passwd... do I need some sudo X application?06:57
hari`dooglus, no, but I use parens because they're a no-op if a newbie accidentally c&p including them, unlike quotes.06:57
attysudo gedit /etc/apt/source.list06:58
_jasonwhen you run synaptic manager does it find packages?06:58
atty <-- this are the command i type in terminal06:58
_jasonatty: sources* with an s06:58
attysynaptic manager................ yes06:58
matrixbut, idk the letter of my hdd i wanna mount cause it umm..doesn't show on the system :|06:58
hari`dooglus, I used to help out a lot in #anotherdistronewbiechannel  ;)06:58
dooglushari`: you should put semicolons between them still06:58
dooglushari`: otherwise the copy/paste won't work06:58
FaithXok gksu06:58
attyok06:58
attynow i can see06:58
attywhat should i do next06:59
bratschehari`: It won't install.  Says it depends on libapt-pkg-perl, but it is not going to be installed.  The next line says E: Broken packages.06:59
hari`dooglus, considered it, but with sudo, what's the syntax to do more than one?  sudo (a;b;c) or just sudo a;b;c ?06:59
_jasonatty: add "deb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ hoary java" with out the quotes on the last line06:59
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attyi can paste it anywhere?06:59
_jasonatty: make a new line at the bottom and paste it there06:59
dooglushari`: unforunately, sudo sh -c "a; b; c"06:59
hari`"on the last line" seems kinda specific07:00
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hari`dooglus, ick, and the whole (sudo sh -) is ick too.  ;)07:00
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bratscheDoes anyone know what package owns /etc/X11/xorg.conf?  That's what I'm trying to find.07:01
henriquemaiahello, I have just upgraded to breezy and now my keyboard (pt) is not working right. Does anyone knows a tip to solve this~07:01
dooglushari`: ok, how about    echo "a; b; c" | sudo sh07:01
attydeb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ hoary java07:01
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attyok i do this07:01
henriquemaia?07:01
pepsihi07:01
attybelow ##Backports07:01
pepsimy load average is 707:01
drogohJust sudo -s, yoh.07:01
pepsibut it doesnt feel like it07:01
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bob2bratsche: why?07:01
_jasonatty: sure just make sure its on its own line07:01
hari`dooglus, traditionally, before the "get rid of root" days, the idea of allowing sudo to run anything like a shell was horrific.07:01
bob2if you deleted it, then you need to say so07:01
attyyup07:02
attyownline07:02
drogohpepsi, Load averages don't exactly mean "the system is to its knees".07:02
bratschebob2: Because I want to get the original copy of that file.07:02
attycan i paste here?07:02
hari`No.07:02
drogohatty, pastebin.com07:02
bob2bratsche: there is no original copy07:02
drogohYou're welcome.07:02
Myrttiabsolutely not07:02
dooglushari`: in my last job I wasn't trusted with root access to the NIS master07:02
bob2bratsche: it's generated by debconf07:02
bratschebob2: Then how do I just regenerate it?07:02
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bob2bratsche: what happened to it?07:02
_jasonatty: save it and go back to terminal07:02
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dooglushari`: but I was trusted with "sudo vi" access...07:02
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attydone07:02
attysave it07:02
_jasonatty: sudo apt-get update07:02
dooglushari`: from vi you can type :!sh to get a shell...07:03
hari`dooglus, uh huh, and vi :!shell ...07:03
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pepsidrogoh, but im not doing anything.. the load average has been high for days now07:03
sobersabrehi07:03
bratschebob2: I don't know, but X says now that it can't find the 'fixed' font.  I noticed a lot of warnings during startup about font directories not existing.07:03
naliothin anyone has an inclination to just fire off a /msg <whomever> bleh, please type /msg ubotu msg FIRST07:03
dooglusbright sysadmin there, huh?07:03
drogohpepsi, Anything odd showing up in top?07:03
pepsino07:03
bratschebob2: So basically, X won't startup and I'm trying to figure out how to fix it.07:03
hari`Well, time to sleep.07:03
sobersabreis kernel 2.6.12 the version of breezy? won't breezy have something newer ?07:03
bratscheGood night hari07:03
bob2bratsche: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, perhaps07:03
bob2bratsche: I'd start by reading the log file, tho07:03
bob2sobersabre: yes, no07:03
bratschebob2: Okay, thanks.07:03
sobersabreok07:04
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hari`07:04
|wwanyway to turn off the passive transfer for Places -> Connect to server   gftp keeps crashing07:04
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attyjason..... finish update... what next07:04
HrdwrBoBhari`: english only please07:04
_jasonatty: run synaptic and search for java, JRE should be available07:04
attynihon go desu ka? hari?07:04
attyok07:04
hari`HrdwrBoB, no worries, just saying good night.  :P07:04
hari`atty, learning.07:05
drogohPleasing the Engrish?07:05
attyi will close my terminal07:05
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drogoh;/07:05
drogohAt least I'm not ripping on hyperion, even though I want to.07:06
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pepsidrogoh, vmware-vmx wont die07:07
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drogohpepsi, Hm. Not even a SIGKILL?07:07
matrixok my hdd doesn't show under sudo mount :S07:07
pepsinope07:07
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drogohInteresting.07:07
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sobersabreand why not 2.6.13 ?07:07
attyjason... i'm in synaptic package manager? how to search07:07
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sobersabrebob2, why not 13 ?07:08
_jasonatty: search button07:08
drogohVMware sucks, might need to single user.07:08
_jasonatty: see it?07:08
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bratschebob2: Thanks, that seems to have fixed it.07:08
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pepsidrogoh, what would that entail? id have to logoff, i might as well just restart07:09
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drogohMay as well.07:09
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attywait ason07:09
pepsii wouldnt have much of a problem with it, but its using 35% of my ram :)07:09
attyi should type java? jason?07:09
drogohI typically send a machine into single user if I have a runaway process like that to see if it'll still flop around afterwards.07:10
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_jasonatty: try j2re07:10
brownie17i want to plug in a cound source through the "line in" on my sound card, but it is not playing through my speakers. who can help me?07:10
brownie17sound*07:10
attynot in the list for j2re07:11
_jasonatty: anything for java?07:11
MadpilotPPCatty, you running breezy?07:11
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attyjava2-common07:11
MadpilotPPC5.10?07:11
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brownie17who can help me?07:11
drogohHm, yay.07:11
attyjava2html07:11
drogohDovecot is fixed. ;/07:11
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brownie17MadpilotPPC, what do you know about sound?07:12
attygoshh............... i dont know breezy or what07:12
attybut i'm running under kubuntu right now07:12
attyshould i go to ubuntu desktop?07:12
MadpilotPPCbrownie17, mine works, on this machine and my home box. Aside from that, not a lot... sorry...07:12
Hobbseeatty: no, either will work07:12
hjk57would package list need to be refreshed first?07:12
ksmurfI have a flakey wifi card (internal) on an acer 2312lci.  It is seen in lspci but only works half the time.  I was thinking it was the madwifi drivers but my g650 dlink card is picked up right away.  could someone help me tshoot it.  I have ruled out a hardware failure because my wife's does exactly the same thing07:12
brownie17MadpilotPPC, haha ok07:12
attyk07:12
brownie17who knows much about sound and the like?07:13
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attyso next step?07:13
_jasonatty: thats where i got j2re a few days ago... i thought it would still be there...07:13
bob2ksmurf: "only works half the time"?07:13
bob2brownie17: best to just ask your question07:13
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brownie17bob2, i want to make my "line in" jack on my pc work, but it just isn't doing anything.07:14
B_166-ER-Xi have xmms and, technically, mp3 support installed, but xmms wont play any mp3, what could it be ?07:14
attyi press reload................. still no j2re07:14
ksmurfyes.... sometime it works upon reboot.... sometime it does not.  Athreos based.07:14
cndrrso, i just installed breezy, and everytime i try to activate the eth0, the system totally crashes and burns07:14
ksmurfit has never failed while in mid work only on reboots07:14
attyduring installation.............. i use kubuntu 5.04 hoary. is it ok?07:14
ksmurfI'm using breezy'07:14
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Hobbseeatty: right, so you're on hoary, and not breezy07:15
attyhow to now breezy or bla bla bla?07:15
bob2ksmurf: you need to define "works"07:15
brownie17bob2, is there a place i get go for sound-specific help?07:15
attyknow*07:15
cndrris there any type of log file that might be generated when the network config thing crashes?07:15
bob2brownie17: is it unmuted?07:15
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B_166-ER-Xi have xmms and, technically, mp3 support installed, but xmms wont play any mp3, what could it be ?07:15
brownie17bob2, um... other sound works. do i have to unmute the line in plug specifically? how?07:15
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ksmurfbob2 It is operational and picked up with ifconfig and iwconfig....07:15
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bob2ksmurf: ignore them07:16
ksmurfright now it is not.07:16
ksmurfk07:16
bob2ksmurf: what does dmesg say the times when it's not working?07:16
_jasonatty: sorry then the package must have been removed... follow: http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/ch03s02.html07:16
bob2ksmurf: does loading the module manually work?07:16
bob2brownie17: yes, with whatever mixer you normally use; alsamixer is a good choice07:16
ksmurfit's not working right now so I'll dmesg07:16
bob2B_166-ER-X: xmms doesn't know or care if you have "mp3 support installed"07:16
attyok jason07:16
attyit ok07:16
bob2B_166-ER-X: did you yrll it to use esound for sound output?07:16
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ksmurfthe mods are loaded.... the dlink works of the same mods07:17
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dooglusbob2: do you know how I can compile myself a libglib2?  I get the source like this: apt-get source libglib2.0-0 - and then what?07:17
pc22how do in install win apps thru wine?07:17
brownie17bob2, if i send you a screenshot of alsamixer, can you tell me which one is line in, and how to unmute it?07:17
bob2dooglus: I can think of no possible reason for doing that07:17
bob2brownie17: just unmute them all07:17
bob2brownie17: M07:17
bob2dooglus: what is your goal?07:17
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brownie17bob2, how do i unmute it?07:18
B_166-ER-Xbob2 , i think you will have to be more explicit /tell me what to look for...07:18
bob215:17:44           bob2 | brownie17: M07:18
dooglusbob2: I want to get the source available, all unpacked and patched, so that the line number information gdb tells me matches the sources07:18
bob2B_166-ER-X: go to preferences. select output. pick esound.07:18
brownie17bob2: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/257307:18
ksmurfhttp://pastebin.com/375406 bob2....07:18
bob2dooglus: apt-cache show libglib2.0-0-dbg07:19
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dooglus!paste07:19
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ubotupaste is, like, please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text07:19
xuniluserHow do i get the driver of a printer from a different distro?07:19
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brownie17bob2, well i unmuted everything in there, and now it still isn't playing. the line in has owrked with winxp before07:19
cndrr is there any type of log file that might be generated when the network config thing crashes?07:19
bob2brownie17: anything with "M" on it is muted07:19
WebLOCHIts official, Ubuntu is bad for your health07:19
B_166-ER-Xbob2, ok, have selected esound closed and restart, still doesnt work07:19
ksmurfI have already tried noacpi loading07:19
bob2cndrr: no, just don't bother using it07:19
MadpilotPPCxuniluser, try linuxprinting.irg07:20
bob2B_166-ER-X: "doesnt work" is not a useful description of the problem07:20
dooglusbob2: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/257407:20
MadpilotPPCgah... that's .org, obviously...07:20
bob2xuniluser: you're sure ubuntu doesn't include support for it?07:20
henriquemaiahello, I have just upgraded to breezy and now my keyboard (pt) is not working right. Does anyone knows a tip to solve this?07:20
dooglusbob2: that's a binary, the -dbg library07:20
bob2dooglus: yes, I know, I was telling you to install and use it07:20
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dooglusbob2: I have done, but I need the source code to debug it07:20
B_166-ER-Xbob2, well, it shows the same things than before : wich is, 3 choice why it could possibly not work07:20
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bob2dooglus: that's an issue of configuring your debugger to look at the unpacked source code07:21
bob2B_166-ER-X: does sound work at all?07:21
dooglusbob2: right.  my question is, how do I unpack the source code?07:21
B_166-ER-Xhow do i test that...07:21
xuniluserbob2: yes... EPSON-LX30007:21
|wwwhat ftp software runs the Places -> Connect To Server -> ftp07:21
brownie17bob2, well nearly everything is unmuted07:21
|wwi need to reconfigure the passive transfer to not07:21
bob2dooglus: apt-get source libglib2.007:21
bob2brownie17: "nearly"07:22
xuniluserbob2: but its available in Asianux and Redhat07:22
dooglusbob2: that gives me some patch files and a tar.gz file07:22
bob2B_166-ER-X: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp07:22
brownie17bob2, things that weren't related, like the 20 decimanl boost for mike and stuff07:22
bob2dooglus: no it doesn't, look again (it unpackaed it already)07:22
dooglusbob2: I reckon there must be some next step to extract the tarballs and apply the patches07:22
B_166-ER-Xbob2, yes i hear it07:22
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bob2B_166-ER-X: "pkill esd", tell xmms to use oss again07:22
dooglusbob2: it unpacked one tarball, but it contained another.07:23
dooglusnamely ./upstream/tarballs/000_glib-2.8.1.tar.gz07:23
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ksmurfbob2 all the dmesg errors are about BAT1   my battery level....07:23
PR3DLANDhello07:23
bob2dooglus: you'll have to read debian/rules (which is a makefile) to see what target unpacks that07:23
bob2ksmurf: that is quite messed up07:23
B_166-ER-Xbob2, what do you mean by 'oss'07:23
bob2nevermind07:23
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WebLOCHhaha07:24
dooglusbob2: ok thanks.  that's what I was missing.  "rules" is a funny name for a Makefile!07:24
WebLOCHB_166-ER-X, what he wants you to do is load XMMS, and go to preferences07:24
B_166-ER-Xyeas, thats the easy part07:24
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WebLOCHB_166-ER-X, and by OSS he meant change the Output plugin, to OSS instead of whatever is set now07:25
B_166-ER-Xyep, saw it.... done it, still doing the same error 'cannot play audio file'07:25
esaci am making my own kernel and i compiled in intel pro wireless support (ipw2200). during boot it fails to insert the firmware and the card fails to start. any idea ?07:25
WebLOCHokay07:25
WebLOCHhmm07:25
attyi did download jdk-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin.  can anybody teach me how to install?07:25
vladuz976how can i change the default editor to vim?07:26
WebLOCHB_166-ER-X, do me a favour and priv msg me and give me the output of  "lsof /dev/snd/*"07:26
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dukenhelow07:26
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dukeni have upgrade my system07:26
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dukenbut a can problem with firefox07:26
matrixwhats the best version of gimp ?07:26
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dukenfirefox cannot to upgrade07:27
MizutsukiI got a very strange thing when I did dmesg, it's related to my not working wifi PCMCIA card, anyone know what to do?07:27
MizutsukiPCI: Enabling device 0000:06:00.0 (0000 -> 0002)07:27
MizutsukiACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:06:00.0[A]  -> GSI (level, low) -> IRQ 1107:27
Mizutsukiath%d: unable to attach hardware; HAL status 1307:27
MizutsukiACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:06:00.0[A]  -> GSI (level, low) -> IRQ 1107:27
WebLOCHB_166-ER-X, are you there?  Im happy to help but I want to do it sooner rather than later07:27
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WebLOCHMizutsuki, dont paste in here07:27
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brownie17Mizutsuki, paste bin07:27
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matrixbest version of gimp ?07:27
B_166-ER-Xduken, jsut go with synaptic : search for firefox, and unistall Firefox and Firefox-gnome support07:27
B_166-ER-Xwhen its done ,reinstall it07:27
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B_166-ER-XWebloch, well the command jsut dont do anything07:28
naliothmatrix: version of gimp?07:28
|wwanyone know where to edit the places -> connect to server -> ftp client settings07:28
matrixu never heard of gimp ?07:28
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WebLOCHB_166-ER-X, well if you dont tell me, how will I know?07:28
WebLOCHB_166-ER-X, try "aplay -l"07:28
brownie17matrix, he has heard of gimp. he has to of07:28
cafuego_matrix: What makes you think there are multiple versions to choose from?07:28
thoreauputicmatrix: "best version of gimp" is an odd thing to ask07:28
brownie17have*07:28
esacwhy is it that when i turn hinting to None, it looks better than full ?07:28
B_166-ER-Xwtf aplay: device_list:200: no soundcards found...07:28
MadpilotPPCmatrix, the GIMP is included in Ubuntu by default...07:28
ghostdogwhere can i get plugins or codec to play wmv files and avi ?07:28
naliothmatrix: are you addressing me? if so, please preface my nick before your texts07:28
WebLOCHB_166-ER-X, yeah i thought as much07:29
MadpilotPPC!tell ghostdog about restricted07:29
naliothghostdog: breezy or hoary?07:29
WebLOCHB_166-ER-X, you running breezy or hoary?07:29
B_166-ER-Xhoary07:29
cyphaseduken, you still having problems with firefox?07:29
matrixum ok07:29
B_166-ER-Xfresh install from printed cd.07:29
dukencycom,07:29
dukencyphase, yes07:29
matrixthought there was more then one version of gimp07:29
cyphaselol07:29
WebLOCHB_166-ER-X, okay good, we can probably get your sound running then07:29
cafuego_matrix: sudo apt-get insall gim; gimp -> voila.07:29
dukencan't to remove too07:29
duken:(07:29
PR3DLANDany 1 got hoary login in to a samba PDC?07:29
cyphaseduken, lets go to a private07:29
cyphaseso as not to crowd the channel07:30
naliothmatrix: there is a "gimpshop" version of the gimp available. pardon my confusion with your very general question07:30
dukenwhats wrong with firefox 1.0.7 ? :(07:30
PR3DLAND*hoary to login*07:30
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cyphaseprivate chat*07:30
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matrixnalioth, no worries07:30
attyjason r u there? can u assist me how to install jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.bin07:30
tritiumatty, did you install java-package?07:30
thoreauputicduken: ff 1.0.7 is not the problem - backports probably are your problem07:30
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cyphaseduken, go to the private chat i started07:31
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naliothatty: your question has been answered in #kubuntu07:31
attyyup07:31
WebLOCHB_166-ER-X, tell me when you can be bothered, and we will sort out your sound07:31
tritiumatty, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java <-- all you need to know07:31
ksmurfI have a flakey wifi card (internal) on an acer 2312lci.  It is seen in lspci but only works half the time.  I was thinking it was the madwifi drivers but my g650 dlink card is picked up right away.  could someone help me tshoot it.  I have ruled out a hardware failure because my wife's does exactly the same thing07:31
ksmurfI have already tried noacpi loading07:31
tritiumksmurf, have you tried taking the laptop into the bathroom?  ;)07:32
B_166-ER-XwebLoch , now would be a good time..07:32
ksmurflol Hey tritium07:32
WebLOCHB_166-ER-X, I tried messaging you was assuming you were ignoring the messages07:32
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tritiumksmurf, heh.  Where was that again?  A hotel?07:32
B_166-ER-XWebloch, and i have talkingot you as well in private07:32
cyphaseduken, you still there?07:32
B_166-ER-Xthats weird07:32
ksmurfYes..... I only take it to the bedroom at home07:32
Myrttihave you registered your nicks07:33
B_166-ER-XWebLOCH can you see this?07:33
B_166-ER-XB_166-ER-X YES07:33
dukencyphase, i has benn msg you07:33
WebLOCHB_166-ER-X, for some reason I cannot see your private messages07:33
ksmurfi know i know too much unfo07:33
B_166-ER-Xlooks like this server doesnt like privates07:33
cyphasei don't see any messages from you..07:33
cyphaseanyway07:33
Myrttiyou can't send private messages if you haven't registered your nicks07:33
B_166-ER-Xarr07:33
WebLOCHAhh I have07:33
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cyphaseduken, copy this to a terminal and run..07:33
cyphasesudo apt-get -y remove firefox firefox-gnome-support mozilla-firefox mozilla-firefox-gnome-support; sudo apt-get -y install mozilla-firefox mozilla-firefox-gnome-support; killall firefox-bin firefox07:33
WebLOCHB_166-ER-X,  register your nick07:33
Myrttihave you logged in?07:33
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Myrttianyway07:33
dukeni try07:33
cyphasek07:33
B_166-ER-Xi'm usually un undernet, never done this , just how do i ..?07:33
cyphasethen tell me if it works07:34
ghostdognalioth : im using hoary07:34
WebLOCHB_166-ER-X,  /ns register <chosen password>07:34
B_166-ER-Xok07:34
WebLOCHB_166-ER-X, then after it is registered, whenever you come here, us  /ns identify <passwoer>07:34
naliothghostdog: have fun http://www.giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/07:34
B_166-ER-Xnice07:34
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maxbernhello guys07:34
maxbernHow can i install Mp3 music?07:35
ksmurfinstall?07:35
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maxbernyes07:35
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maxbernor how to play mp3 in ubuntu07:35
rayxmms will play mp3's if you install the correct plugin07:35
brownie17maxbern, is english your primary language?07:35
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maxbernenglish brownie1707:36
rayuse the synaptic package manager to search for it07:36
blahrusmaxbern,  please use beep media player07:36
brownie17maxbern, ok07:36
Myrtti!mp307:36
maxbernwhere can i find them?07:36
ubotuhmm... mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support07:36
blahrusmax, much better :)07:36
cndrrok, whats the quickest way to turn a fresh install into a NAT router?07:36
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brownie17blahrus, you mean maxbern?07:36
dukencyphase, i'm still download now07:36
blahrusyea sorry :)07:36
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rayim off - gota go to work - laters!07:36
ksmurfanyone?07:37
maxbernhelp me im newbie for linux07:37
maxberni have ubuntu installed here07:37
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maxberni need to play mp3 songs07:37
MadpilotPPC!tell maxbern about mp307:37
maxbernwhere can i get the drivers07:37
naliothksmurf: instead of wasting bandwidth with "anyone?" can you ask your bloody question?07:37
nalioth!tell maxbern about restricted07:37
MadpilotPPCmaxbern, see the msg ubotu just sent you, plase07:37
MadpilotPPC*please07:37
|wwis there a functional ftp client on ubuntu??07:38
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cyphaseduken, ok07:38
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|wwgftp crashes do to a uTIMe problem.. connect to server is passive and my ftp server doesnt like it07:38
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shrayubuntu is the devil!07:38
nalioth|ww: several07:38
|wwreally flustrating how this is such a neat little program and it doesn't even have a decent ftp client07:38
maxbernok ok ok07:38
Toma-shray: no ur.07:38
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raythere are shed loads of ftp clients in the synapse???07:39
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raymore than you can shake a stick at07:39
cafuego_shray: It's not. I am.07:39
MadpilotPPC|ww, Nautilus (the file manager) can do a lot of FTP stuff07:39
|wwi get to upload like 2 files and gftp crashes like windows07:39
nalioth!tell |ww about synaptic07:39
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rayright, now i must go... bye07:39
nalioth|ww: read all that ubotu has sent you and help yourself07:39
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esachas anybody had issues with ATI driver? i installed xorg-fglrx-driver or whatever, set xorg.conf to use fglrx, and X started fine, but there is no way it is an accelerated driver07:40
selinium!ati07:40
ubotufrom memory, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx07:40
ksmurfsorry .  I have a flakey card that is internal on my acer laptop 2312lci.  I don't think it is the hardware because my wifes has the same problem.  it is athros based and the mods are loaded.  lspci picks it up dmesg only has error about acpi and my batt.  my dlink650 works and uses the same driver. any ideas07:40
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maxbernwhat is website certyified by Unknown Authorities do i need to acept permanently or temporarily07:40
ksmurfI'm using breezy07:40
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MadpilotPPCmax, if you're talking about the ubuntu site, just accept permanently07:41
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dingn07:41
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capiCrimmwhat packages do I need to use decompress .rar files?07:42
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dooglus|ww: still having problems with gftp?07:42
dooglus|ww: 'cos you can turn passive off07:43
matrixok i can't mount my hdd :s07:43
bimbericapiCrimm: have you tried the Archive Manager (Apps -> Accessories).  Otherwise unrar or unrar-nonfree07:43
cafuego_or you cna fix the ftp server, so passive ftp works.07:43
dooglusftp menu, options, ftp tab, 'passive transfers'07:43
MadpilotPPCcapiCrimm, search Synaptic for rar07:43
cafuego_it's normally as easy as allowing RELATED packets on the firewall and loading ip_conntrack_ftp07:43
SlicerDicer-does anybody know about avidemux and ubuntu?07:44
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WebLOCHI think the hardest thing about the transition from windows to linux07:44
WebLOCHIs that the Yes/No/Cancel buttons are swapped over07:44
WebLOCHSo whenever I instinctively click "no" im actually clicking yes.07:45
ksmurfwhat other info would you like nalioth?07:45
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brownie17WebLOCH, agreed07:45
|wwdooglus; i turned passive off with gftp.. i need to turn passive off on the connect to server so i can ftp with the file browser07:45
ghostdogmadpilotPPC: therea an error couldn't be verified because the public key is not available07:46
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WebLOCHbrownie17, :D07:46
BLUE_ICEwhat does this mean?07:47
BLUE_ICEcan i paste here?07:47
brownie17no07:47
brownie17use pastebin07:47
brownie17!pastebin07:47
ubotuit has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl07:47
BLUE_ICEwhat is that?07:47
BLUE_ICEi will paste there?07:48
elkbuntugo to the url and see07:48
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dooglus|ww: gftp is nothing to do with the browser, I don't think.07:48
brownie17BLUE_ICE, you paste it there, and psate the URL of the weibsite in here07:48
dooglus|ww: I was browsing FTP sites with nautilus before I even installed gftp07:48
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BLUE_ICEhow can i sent those files?07:49
dooglusBLUE_ICE: whatever you do, don't paste any screenshots in here!07:49
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brownie17BLUE_ICE, you can also send those through pastebin, there is an attachtment dialouge07:50
BLUE_ICEits not an screen shots its an error07:50
brownie17BLUE_ICE, the error text once paste into pastebin can be given to him through the url.07:50
dooglusBLUE_ICE: paste it in the paste site07:50
BLUE_ICEi was following this sudo apt-get update07:51
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BLUE_ICEthat is done07:51
BLUE_ICEbut on the next command theres an error07:51
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BLUE_ICEwhat does this mean ? Package totem-xine is not available, but is referred to by another package.07:51
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brownie17everyone go to #newpeople   !!!!!07:52
cyclotron6hey can anyone help me with a ndiswrapper issue07:52
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thoreauputicBLUE_ICE: it means your sources are misconfigured07:52
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dooglusbrownie17: what about the oldpeople?  should they go too?07:52
cyclotron6the kernal module wont ins mod07:52
thoreauputic!tell BLUE_ICE about sources07:52
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seliniumhi thoreauputic :)07:52
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thoreauputichi selinium :)07:53
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helpmehelp me! not able to boot into ubuntu! Error 16: Inconsistent filsystem structure!!07:53
brownie17dooglus, if they have lisences, and my permission. why? are you old!?!?!?!07:53
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dooglusI'm quite old07:53
seliniumHi all, i installed winetools using 'sudo sh install.sh' How do i now uninstall it?07:53
brownie17cool07:53
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cafuego_helpme: Boot from install or LiveCD, fix the filesystem using fsck.07:53
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brownie17seveas, say i am op in a channel, and i want to know how to make myself op again everytime i come back, how do i do that?07:53
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dooglusmatrix: what's the problem?07:54
cafuego_selinium: Find out which files got installed, remove them by hand.07:54
helpmeim in kanotix live cd now......how to fix filesystem.....im a newbie:(07:54
helpmeguide me plz07:54
matrixdooglus, i need to mount my hard drive but idk how07:54
naliothselinium: why did you do that? and not use synaptic?07:54
thoreauputicbrownie17: you read the documentation for your IRC client ;)07:54
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Passionhi~07:54
seliniumcafuego, cool! cheers07:54
naliothbrownie17: you do not need to do so in here07:54
brownie17thoreauputic, great idea07:54
dooglusmatrix: do you know the harddrive's device?07:54
matrix:|07:55
BLUE_ICEthoreauputic,  where can i found those sources? in my cd's?07:55
dooglus/dev/hda1 or whatever?07:55
matrixdooglus, u lost me there07:55
capiCrimmbimberi, I have unrar, but it doesn't seem to work. It seems to be dying on valid packages.07:55
thoreauputicBLUE_ICE: the URL ubotu pm'ed you tells you07:55
helpmehelp me! not able to boot into ubuntu! Error 16: Inconsistent filsystem structure!!07:55
crimsuncapiCrimm: you need unrar-nonfree from multiverse, probably07:55
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nalioth!tell helpme about repeat07:55
thoreauputichelpme: stop being annoying, please07:55
bimbericapiCrimm: yes - wot crimsun sed :)07:55
helpmecafuego: plz guide me:(07:56
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dooglusmatrix: run "sudo fdisk /dev/hda", type p, hit return, type q, hit return.  don't type other things to fdisk, you can cause damage07:56
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dooglusmatrix: that will list the partitions on /dev/hda - do you see the drive you want to mount07:56
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matrixdooglus, it only shows the partitions on the current drive i'm using, i need to mount another hdd cause it has all my files on it07:57
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dooglusmatrix: try /dev/hdb ?07:58
PassionI'm using laptop Samsung X05, but it fall down sleep mode and then when it is resumed, it lost prior birhtness. Adjustment keys of brightness don't work too. What shall i do.. :'(07:58
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dooglus(I'm guessing now - I've only got one harddrive)07:58
capiCrimmbimberi, did that and it still doesn't work. Where can I get an archieve to test on. Maybe mines corrupt. :\07:58
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matrixdooglus, bash: /dev/hdb: Permission denied07:58
bimberidooglus: "sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda" is safer ;)07:58
cyclotron6anyone know why modprode ndiswrapper would be an "Operation Not Permitted" when it insmods?07:58
dooglusbimberi: right.07:59
dooglusmatrix: is this an IDE drive?07:59
bimbericapiCrimm: i don't know sorry, google might07:59
matrixdooglus, yep07:59
dooglusmatrix: when you saw "permission denied", did you use sudo?07:59
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cyclotron6im running 5.10 preview07:59
dooglusmatrix: ie. "sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb"07:59
wrabbit01Heya all... mind if I ask a newbie question?08:00
crimsunwrabbit01: go ahead08:00
dooglus!ask08:00
naliothwrabbit01: ask08:00
ghostdognalioth : therea an error couldn't be verified because the public key is not available what should i do ?08:00
matrixdooglus, i found it i think: /dev/hdb1   *           1        2438    19583203+   c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)08:00
thoreauputic!+ask08:00
ubotusomebody said ask was Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important. Better questions more frequently yield better answer. Keeping the question in one line makes it easier to read. See also http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html.08:00
crimsunghostdog: wiki.ubuntu.com/AptAuthenticationInstructionsForHoary08:00
thoreauputicthat factoid is way too long...08:00
BLUE_ICEbrownie17,  your just playing for your ops instead helping some people needs help08:00
dooglusmatrix: ok.  so it's /dev/hdb1 - it's a FAT32 drive right?08:01
wrabbit01Just installed Ubuntu after loving the live CD.  I've installed it on drive C and have windows XP installed on drive D.  I was under the impression that there would be an option before bootup to choose which OS I wanted to load.08:01
BLUE_ICEdo not abuse your power brownie1708:01
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matrixdooglus, yeah it is08:01
bimberi:)08:01
wrabbit01...but that's not happening. I'm in ubuntu now08:01
thoreauputicbimberi: indeed08:01
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brownie17BLUE_ICE, it wasn't a support channel, it was just stuffing around. you didn't ask for help08:01
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yenhi08:01
BLUE_ICEi was asking for help you know that08:01
naliothghostdog: are you using unofficial repos?08:01
dooglusmatrix: "sudo vi /etc/fstab" and add a new line:08:01
dooglus/dev/hdb1 /mnt/fat vfat noauto,user,umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-1,uid=1000,codepage=850 0 008:01
wrabbit01Is there an easy way to get this working?08:01
BLUE_ICEyou should tell that that was for your stuff i shouldnt join there08:02
yenhi08:02
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thoreauputicBLUE_ICE: if you want to have a personal argument, please take it elsewhere08:02
dooglusmatrix: then "sudo mkdir -p /mnt/fat" and "sudo mount /mnt/fat"08:02
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brownie17BLUE_ICE, don't be so serious08:02
matrixdooglus, add all this /dev/hdb1 /mnt/fat vfat noauto,user,umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-1,uid=1000,codepage=850 0 0 ?08:02
ghostdognalioth : i tried using the command that was on the wiki after i run the instructions it gave me that error08:03
dooglussure08:03
dooglusit's all one line08:03
thoreauputicbrownie17: same goes for you08:03
BLUE_ICEsorry thoreauputic08:03
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dooglusmatrix: I don't know if all those options are needed, or outdated, but they worked for me last time I saw my external harddrive08:03
kevin06We all know that Ubuntu sticks to it's FOSS committment, and because of that, lacks in the Multimedia department. What distro has the best Multimedia support OOTB?08:03
brownie17thoreauputic, *salutes*08:03
yenhiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii08:03
wrabbit01So can anybody help out this particular newbie? I'd really appreciate it.08:04
brownie17thoreauputic, user doc does not tell me whta command for ops is08:04
dooglusmatrix: it's important to copy it quite right - don't add spaces after the commas, for instance08:04
naliothyen: may we help you?08:04
thoreauputicbrownie17: spring to attention when you do that *grin*08:04
crimsunkevin06: probably Planet CCRMA08:04
aftertafwrabbit01:  it is possible, just need to modify grub08:04
thoreauputicbrownie17: /msg chanserv help08:04
aftertafsudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst08:05
yenhi nalioth08:05
dooglusgedit comes as standard?08:05
crimsunyes08:05
thoreauputicdooglus: yup08:05
bimberidooglus: yes08:05
dooglusok, ok!  :)08:05
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matrixdooglus, umm...i already made a directory for it called windows :|08:05
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yenany body here from phil?08:06
jericokaw08:06
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naliothyen: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic, please08:06
jericour frm phil08:06
yenwakuku08:06
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dooglusmatrix: doesn't matter - replace /mnt/fat everywhere with your path08:06
pc22how do in install win apps thru wine?08:06
yenano yan?08:06
dwerfi previously installed breezy, and now synaptic wants to update 245 items - is that correct?08:06
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pc22hi yen08:06
naliothtagolog in #ubuntu-ph, please08:06
yenhi08:06
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pc22what do u want?08:07
crimsundwerf: that sounds reasonable08:07
yenelow08:07
thoreauputicyen: english please08:07
yenasl mo pc22?08:07
CardoeWhere do you guys keep your patches against upstream sources?08:07
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dwerfcrimsun > that is exiting than...08:07
wrabbit01aftertaf, could you please point me in the right direction?  I'm new to computers let alone linux so I'm a little confused at the moment.08:07
naliothyen: this is not a chat channel08:07
Cardoesome kind of CVS I assume08:07
New2LinuxHi - I am nwe to linux and as of now runing Ubuntu from its Live CD just to check it out and I know I will be needing lot of help ;(08:07
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yenah ok08:07
yensorry08:07
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crimsunCardoe: diff.gz in CC.archive.ubuntu.com08:07
naliothtagalog in #ubuntu-ph, if you desire08:07
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naliothNew2Linux: welcome08:08
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matrixdooglus, after i add sudo vi /etc/fstab, it says "Interrupt: Hit ENTER or type command to continue08:08
matrix"08:08
crimsunCardoe: for instance, us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/{main,universe,multiverse}/08:08
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yen#ubuntu-ph08:08
New2Linuxwhat will happen when I install the UBUNTU, will I still ahve access to my files in Windows folder (probably not) ???08:08
linnergreetings and salutations :)08:08
matrixlinner, wb :)08:08
thoreauputicyen:  /join #ubuntu-ph08:08
yenok08:08
dooglusmatrix: is there an editor you know how to use?  gedit perhaps?08:08
crimsunNew2Linux: absolutely, you will.08:09
linnermatrix:  why thank you :)08:09
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cyphaseNew2linux, as long as you don't install over Windows :)08:09
naliothNew2Linux: you can read your windows files (if you set up properly)08:09
cyphaseso don't ;)08:09
matrixdooglus, why no i don't <- new to linux :|08:09
bimberiNew2Linux: read access definitely08:09
wrabbit01Can anybody help me with getting this OS option/grub modification thing going?08:09
dooglusmatrix: ok.  gedit will be easier then.08:09
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WebLOCHNew2Linux, You can even run some windows programs with a little know-how and configuration08:09
WebLOCHwb aftertaf08:09
doogluskill the vi one.08:09
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linnermatrix:  how are ya'?08:09
Cardoecrimsun: just finding the debs there08:10
aftertafboing08:10
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linneraftertaf:  hey dude :)08:10
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Cardoecrimsun: looking for what actually goes into building those debs08:10
matrixlinner, good still looking for help from u j33t jedi's :)08:10
crimsunCardoe: wherever there's a deb on the official repo, there's a corresponding orig.tar.gz + diff.gz08:10
crimsunCardoe: our changes are in diff.gz08:10
aftertafhi linner :)08:10
linnermatrix:  help from me??  I'll try dude :)08:10
linneraftertaf:  how are you sweetie?08:11
New2Linuxthaks - no I will be installing on a seprate partitio - rather i say on 2nd hard drive - also does it have to be installed on primary partition08:11
Cardoecrimsun: ok. Guess the package I was looking for doesn't have orig and diff08:11
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thoreauputiclinner: try not - there is no try! Do only!08:11
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matrixlinner, u helped the other night but, dooglus is helping me tonight :o08:11
crimsunCardoe: what package?08:11
thoreauputiclinner: </yoda>08:11
naliothNew2Linux: it can go anywhere. only the bootloader needs the primary HD08:11
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linnerthoreauputic:  dude... a woman can only do what she can do ;)  jedi or not08:11
linner:)08:11
sweetdevilelow..pipzzzzz08:11
aftertaflinner:  hehe, sweetie, that's nice :) fine!! and yourself?08:11
wrabbit01:(08:12
linneraftertaf:  eh, same ole same ole :)08:12
Cardoecrimsun: actually there was a copy of it in universe that didn't have it.. but the copy in main has it.08:12
B_166-ER-Xwhats the command to identify to the nickserver ??08:12
crimsunCardoe: then the package was promoted from universe to main08:12
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moyogoany idea why acroread is broken on breezy?08:12
BLUE_ICEthoreauputic, can i pvt you?08:12
thoreauputiclinner: ah well ... at least you are forsaking the Dark Side ;)08:12
crimsunmoyogo: evince doesn't suffice?08:12
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B_166-ER-XWebloch08:12
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sweetdevilhav u guyzz notice mah cuznn nmed clark???08:12
sambagirlwhy i not receiving wallops?08:12
sweetdevilla lng??08:12
linneryou guys are crazy08:12
yenhi08:13
thoreauputicBLUE_ICE: what's the problem? Keep it in channel if possible08:13
BLUE_ICEW: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>08:13
BLUE_ICEW: GPG error: http://ph.archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>08:13
WebLOCHB_166-ER-X, hey08:13
crimsunsambagirl: from the server ops? Is your client set +w?08:13
cafuego_sambagirl: probably missing umode +w08:13
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matrixlinner, mount -t vfat32 /dev/hdb1/Windows  eh eh?08:13
naliothBLUE_ICE: please dont do that here08:13
thoreauputicBLUE_ICE: erm08:13
dooglus/msg nickserv ident seymourbutts08:13
sambagirlumm lteme try again.08:13
cafuego_sweetdevil: English please08:13
thoreauputicBLUE_ICE: read the topic please08:13
sambagirlsorry for stupid quesiton08:13
linnermatrix:  i actually think you mean did i remove my thumbdrive before rebooting? :)08:13
naliothtagalog in #ubuntu-ph08:13
matrix:|08:13
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matrixrofl :p08:14
BLUE_ICEwew08:14
cafuego_and l33tspeak in /disco08:14
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B_166-ER-XWebLoch what was that command for nickserver or something like this ? ;P08:14
matrixdooglus, mount -t vfat32 /dev/hdb1/Windows eh eh ?08:14
matrixrofl :d08:14
sambagirlsambagirl sets mode +w sambagirl08:14
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WebLOCH "/ns identify passwd"08:14
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linnerhehehehe08:14
B_166-ER-Xah08:14
sambagirlyep is right ohwell.08:14
dooglusmatrix: no.  edit /etc/fstab like I said, then just "sudo mount /mnt/windows"08:14
sambagirlchao08:14
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dooglusmatrix: actually, where did you make that windows directory?08:14
BLUE_ICEhard to install mp308:14
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sweetdevilelow..08:15
matrixdooglus, places--home--folder--Windows08:15
matrix*home folder08:15
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jericothf08:15
calamarihi08:15
jericohi08:15
dooglusmatrix: what's your username?08:15
matrixdooglus, matrix08:16
matrix(H)08:16
calamariis there a top-like program that can tell me which programs are using the hard drive most?08:16
dooglusso, the mount point is /home/matrix/Windows08:16
dooglusand the device is /dev/hdb108:16
concept10!java08:16
ubotumethinks java is to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java08:16
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matrixdooglus, ok can u put all that in one line for me there big man :-)08:17
dooglusdo "sudo gedit /etc/fstab" and put a line into fstab like the one I pasted earlier, but with /home/matrix/ - oh ffs!08:17
B_166-ER-Xcould someone help me with a soundcard being here, but no showing problem ?08:17
dooglus/dev/hdb1 /home/matrix/Windows vfat noauto,user,umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-1,uid=1000,codepage=850 0 008:17
dooglus(make sure that Windows really does have a capital W - it matters)08:17
BLUE_ICEi can see now that linux is not a friendly users08:18
BLUE_ICE:P08:18
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B_166-ER-Xcrimson , could you help me on this one ?08:18
thoreauputic;-)08:18
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matrixdooglus, do i hit new then save it as...?08:18
B_166-ER-Xcrimsun08:18
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B_166-ER-Xthat is08:18
crimsunB_166-ER-X: what's the issue?08:18
concept10Is the w32codecs, j2re and mozilla flashplayer packages in the breezy repos?08:18
concept10*are08:18
BLUE_ICEGuys how can i share my printer from Windows to Linux?08:19
thoreauputicmatrix: do a *little* bit of thinking08:19
crimsunconcept10: the last one (flashplugin-nonfree) is in multiverse08:19
B_166-ER-XCrimsun , a soundcard wich is 'here' but no showing...and xmms not playing mp3 (as probably a result of soundcard prob..)08:19
concept10crimsun, they changed the names of the packages?08:19
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crimsunconcept10: there are a couple. That's the name of the first one that popped into my mind.08:19
BLUE_ICENo one?08:20
crimsunB_166-ER-X: lspci -v|grep -i audio08:20
dooglusmatrix: no 'new', just 'save'08:20
B_166-ER-X0000:00:0d.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 07)08:20
naliothconcept10: no, but i can point you to java and codecs08:20
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matrixdooglus, kk then what :)08:20
linnerwb aftertaf08:20
crimsunB_166-ER-X: cat /proc/asound/modules08:20
thoreauputic!tell BLUE_ICE about docs08:20
aftertafi am a really good advert for a certain model of proxy ;)08:21
B_166-ER-Xcrimsun , 0 snd_emu10k108:21
aftertafthx linner08:21
cafuego_B_166-ER-X: is xmms set up to use the 'esound' or 'esd' output module?08:21
dooglusyou got more than just my one line in there, right?08:21
B_166-ER-Xi tried them all.08:21
New2Linuxcyphase / nyaloth thanks...  i am very rusty using IRC sorry if i did't catch your words or name08:21
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pc22where can i find my repositories list?08:21
crimsunB_166-ER-X: paste the output from amixer onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl08:21
cafuego_There is no need to try all, esd is the one you need.08:21
linneraftertaf:  why sure!08:21
dooglus/etc/apt/sources.list08:21
pc22thanks08:21
thoreauputicpc22: /etc/apt/sources.list08:21
pc22thanks08:21
dooglusmatrix: try 'mount Windows'08:22
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cyphaseNew2Linux, not at all08:22
cyphaseand it's nalioth ;)08:23
B_166-ER-Xcrimsun http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/257508:23
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B_166-ER-Xi dont have esd08:23
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naliothcyphase: yes it is (tab completion will come in time, i'm sure)08:23
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New2Linuxso right now if I can not access my HD is because I am using the Live CD or simply runing everything from the CD ???08:24
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esacanybody know how to open .sit files (from macosx) in linux ?08:24
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matrixmount: can't find /home/matrix/Windows in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab08:24
matrixfuck it i give up :s08:24
naliothesac: you cannot08:24
naliothmatrix: language, please08:24
matrixO.o mybad08:24
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wrabbit01I didn't realise how daunting linux is before I installed.  Can anybody please help me get this grub OS menu working?08:24
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naliothesac: open them on a mac, and then tar them up on the mac or xfer08:24
aftertafesac:  i found a unarch program for that once..... but limited functionality08:24
crimsunB_166-ER-X: in a Terminal, please execute: amixer sset 'SB Live Analog/Digital Output Jack' on08:25
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dooglusmatrix: "sudo gedit /etc/fstab".  what do you see?08:25
esacnalioth: don't suppose you have a mac just lying around i could send you a link  ? :)08:25
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naliothesac: i have several macs "lying around"08:26
B_166-ER-Xcrimsun v08:26
B_166-ER-Xhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/257608:26
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matrixdooglus, i see #/dev/hdb1 /home/matrix/Windows vfat noauto,user,umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-1,uid=1000,codepage=850 0 008:26
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dooglusyou have a # in front of it?08:26
matrixyeah08:26
dooglusyou don't want a # in front of it.  that means 'comment'08:27
crimsunB_166-ER-X: lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*08:27
matrixO.o08:27
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dooglusdo you see other lines too?08:27
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B_166-ER-Xdoes nothing, crimsun08:27
cyphasedoes synaptic do automatic updates?08:27
crimsunB_166-ER-X: can you hear anything when you run the following? aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav08:28
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cyphasei can't remember off the top of my head08:28
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naliothcyphase: yes it does08:28
B_166-ER-XALSA lib confmisc.c:550:(snd_determine_driver) could not open control for card 008:28
B_166-ER-XALSA lib conf.c:3463:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_card_driver returned error: Permission denied08:28
B_166-ER-XALSA lib confmisc.c:387:(snd_func_concat) error evaluating strings08:28
B_166-ER-Xect..ect..08:28
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naliothB_166-ER-X: please dont do that08:28
matrixdooglus, i typed "mount windows" but it went back to "matrix@ool-45774c8b:~$"08:28
BlueEagleb_166-er-x: are you in the audio group?08:28
naliothB_166-ER-X: there is #flood and pastebins galore08:28
dooglusmatrix: so look in the file browser08:28
B_166-ER-Xyeah i know sorry.08:28
esacnalioth: http://images.apple.com/applescript/itunes/itunes-scripts.OSX.sit .. if you get a chance id appreciate it.08:28
cyphaselaioth, i mean it downloads everything in the background without anything being shown to the user08:28
dooglusyour Windows directory should be full of stuff now08:29
cyphasenalioth*08:29
matrixdooglus, ty u alot buddy :D08:29
crimsunB_166-ER-X: these errors are on a default Ubuntu Hoary install?08:29
naliothcyphase: mine unfortunately does it in front of me08:29
dooglusmatrix: do you still have all the old stuff in /etc/fstab?08:29
dooglusmatrix: 'cos you need it.  your system won't boot if you've messed it up08:29
B_166-ER-Xcrimsun yeas08:29
B_166-ER-Xprinted cd..08:29
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cyphasenalioth, i guess that's a no..08:30
cyphase:)08:30
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BLUE_ICEcan you feel the love tonigt it is where we are08:30
garychey folks I just installed vsftpd and I need a kick start document that shows me how to setup users and access08:30
matrixdooglus, u mean the # or all the other stuff that was there ?08:30
dooglusall the other stuff08:30
matrixyeah its still there08:30
dooglusline /dev/hda1 / ... and such like08:30
B_166-ER-Xsays right here 'ubuntu 5.04 for apple cmp'08:30
B_166-ER-Xjokking..08:30
matrixdooglus, all i did was add the new line and hit save08:30
crimsunB_166-ER-X: like BlueEagle asked, are you in the audio group? groups|grep audio08:30
dooglusmatrix: ok.  the # worried me.  where'd that come from?08:31
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matrixdooglus, it was a blank spot with the # already there08:31
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B_166-ER-Xcrimsun , i dont see what you mean by audio group08:31
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nmstryodawow! so what does launchpad-integration do for me... new package in the breezy hourly patches...08:31
crimsunB_166-ER-X: type the command I stated after I asked the question.08:31
nmstryodai know what launchpad is... btw08:31
garychey folks I just installed vsftpd and I need a kick start document that shows me how to setup users and access08:31
B_166-ER-Xjust did. does nothing08:31
BLUE_ICE:)08:31
dooglusmatrix: oh, ok.  you should find that you don't need to do anything next time you boot.  Windows will just always contain your windows drive08:32
crimsunB_166-ER-X: then you're not using your default user, I don't think. Is this user the second or third you've added?08:32
tgahowdy. does anyone know a nice serif font that contains East European chars? I'm looking at Gentium so far but it has no bold08:32
BooZeehey all! how can I download codecs to my box ?08:32
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matrixdooglus, so this is the only time i will have to do that ?08:32
aftertafso linner you a happy bunny with your laptop now right?08:32
tga!tell BooZee about codecs08:32
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garycwho can help me on vsftp08:32
esacand to head off the next question08:32
linneraftertaf:  yeah I'm fairly happy with the lappy :)08:32
esac!tell BooZee about w32codecs08:32
cafuego_tga: 'apt-cache search ttf' should give you heaps.08:32
linneraftertaf:  of course it has some issues with the time and the wireless connection but other than that it rocks!08:33
dooglusmatrix: oh, I'm lying to you.  if you want it to be automatically mounted, you'll need to get rid of the "noauto" bit of the line you added (and the following comma)08:33
B_166-ER-Xcrimsun, ah, i did have problem with user...at my first boot the setted user didnt want to logon, i had to create another one, but the user created at the install was not showing up anywhere ..08:33
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crimsunB_166-ER-X: so you need to add that user to the audio group, log out, and log back in08:33
linneraftertaf:  can't quite figure out the ndiswrapper but i'm determined to do it.............08:33
matrixdooglus, just take out the "noauto and the comma" ? and save it ?08:34
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cafuego_nmstryoda: Nothing I suspect, as '/usr/bin/launchpad-integration' returns an error.08:34
linneraftertaf:  did you get your proxy stuff worked out?08:34
B_166-ER-Xcrimsun, i have just my main user listed in users and groups.08:34
nmstryodacafuego, nothing just yet...08:34
aftertaflinner:  time issues?08:34
dooglusmatrix: yeah08:34
matrixdooglus: so /dev/hdb1 /home/matrix/Windows vfat user,umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-1,uid=1000,codepage=850 0 008:34
linneryeah for some reason when i boot up my clock doesn't sync with the server...08:35
crimsunB_166-ER-X: you need your current user to be in the audio group if you want him to have access to the sound device08:35
doogluslooks ok08:35
linneraftertaf:  right now it's 42 minutes fast08:35
aftertaflinner:  nope, nothing i can do.... st00pid corporate proxy needs microwaving08:35
matrixkk thanks alot man08:35
dooglusmatrix, try rebooting to be sure08:35
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linner:)08:35
aftertaflinner:  clock thing no prob..... does your net connection come alive on boot or not?08:35
B_166-ER-Xcrimsun, i only have one user if i look in the users and group :|08:35
matrix:o08:35
linneryes...08:35
cafuego_linner: sudo apt-get install ntp-simple08:35
nmstryodahey, linner, et al ... the difference between Linux users and windows... just occured to me.. We will try something until it works or it kills us... windows users just accept what is given to them and live with it.08:35
nmstryodalinner, you will get it working08:35
New2Linuxso right now if I can not access my HD is because I am using the Live CD or simply runing everything from the CD ???08:35
linnernmstryoda:  you got that right :)08:35
aftertafcafuego:  ntp is in init.d anyway.....08:36
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linnernmstryoda:  if i can work on my laptop for 16 hours a day for 7 days until it's up and running ubuntu, i can do ANYTHING :)08:36
cafuego_aftertaf: Yes, but that only runs once.08:36
fluor_how do i run 32bit programs on 64-bit ubuntu? s there another way than chroot?08:36
linnercafuego:  really?\08:36
cafuego_aftertaf: and ntp-simple is a daemon.08:36
linnercafuego:  let me give it a shot08:36
aftertaflinner:  does your net connection start on boot or not?08:36
nmstryodalinner, lol08:36
fluor_first i have to log in, then su, then sudo bash to root, then chroot /chroot08:36
dooglusnmstryoda: have you not seen the number of unfixed bugs in the ubuntu bugzilla?08:36
nmstryodatrue08:36
linneraftertaf:  yes it does08:36
nmstryodaoh yea08:36
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crimsunB_166-ER-X: not a big deal. You need to add your current user to the audio group.08:36
naliothNew2Linux: you can access your HD if you follow the wiki08:36
nmstryodabut i love it anyway08:36
B_166-ER-Xdamn, the terminal shows a double of my user08:36
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nmstryodabreezy is good stuff08:36
B_166-ER-Xhere is the problem08:36
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garychey folks -  I just installed vsftpd and I need a kick start document that shows me how to setup users_list enable/deny etc.08:36
linnernmstryoda:  LOL08:36
cafuego_Although I suspect ntp-simple in hoary is very broken; it seems to not be able to keep the mac mini on time.08:37
aftertaflinner:  ok.... then you can change the time it runs to put it after the net up connection script08:37
naliothesac: you still here?08:37
linneroh???08:37
aftertafcafuego:  hehe... she can just change the init.d order for ntp; put it after net up script08:37
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aftertaflinner:  hehe yep08:37
linneraftertaf:  cafuego suggested something else08:37
ubuntukinghello all08:37
B_166-ER-Xso, i do i remove a user by terminal ?08:37
cafuego_linner: you could add an "up /usr/sbin/ntpdate pool.ntp.org" stanza in interfaces too.08:37
esacnalioth: yeah unfortunately im behind a nat router, and i forget what ports to open for dcc08:37
matrixhrm...now i need a great media player like "vlc player" that will paly all my movies and music without requiring any additional codecs08:37
linneraftertaf:  he suggested sudo apt-get install ntp-simple08:38
garychey folks -  I just installed vsftpd and I need a kick start document that shows me how to setup users_list enable/deny etc.08:38
crimsunB_166-ER-X: why would you remove a user?08:38
naliothesac: any ideas on how to xfer in other methods?08:38
linnercafuego:  let me give what you suggested a shot...08:38
linnerhold on a sec08:38
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aftertaflinner:  yep, but seems its a bit buggy, and you dont need to have 2 things installed for one task.08:38
crimsunB_166-ER-X: your entire problem stems from the fact that your _current_ user isn't in the audio group08:38
B_166-ER-Xcrimsun, oli@Nabuchadnesar:~$ users08:38
B_166-ER-Xoli oli08:38
B_166-ER-Xdoubles..08:38
aftertaflinner:  your chcice though... long live freedom of choice :)08:38
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cafuego_linner: it's up to you. ntp-simple runs as daemon, 24/4 and will correct the clock when it starts to skew. ntpdate only runs once, at bootup.08:38
crimsunB_166-ER-X: that means you're logged in multiple times08:38
esacnalioth: i'll brb, then it should work :)08:38
crimsunB_166-ER-X: for instance (don't paste here), look at the output from ''w''08:39
linnercafuego:  oh okay08:39
B_166-ER-Xi dont see how though08:39
brownie17everyone go to #newpeople   it is great, they have punch and pie. free08:39
linneraftertaf:  you're right...............god love choice!08:39
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dooglusfree hat?08:39
garychey folks -  I just installed vsftpd and I need a kick start document that shows me how to setup users_list enable/deny etc.08:39
linnercafuego:  i'd love to do that..............08:39
thoreauputicbrownie17: advertising is deprecated ;)08:39
cafuego_Although if it loses TOO much time, it could run only once every two hours ;-)08:40
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B_166-ER-Xcrimsun, yep 2 time me, and one is a session manager08:40
brownie17thoreauputic, its what now?08:40
New2LinuxOkay dumb question - how do you pronounce Wiki - is it liek Wy Ki or wicki08:40
B_166-ER-Xbut i dont see how that happened08:40
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garychey folks -  I just installed vsftpd and I need a kick start document that shows me how to setup users_list enable/deny etc.08:40
linnercafuego:  why does it lose time at all?08:40
sivanghi all08:40
naliothbrownie17: not advised to advertise08:40
linnercafuego:  aftertaf I would think this would be a simple enough problem to completely avoid on a *nix box08:40
cafuego_linner: Normally because it gets confused about clock ticks on a cpu that can switch clock speed.08:40
crimsungaryc: please consult the examples in /usr/share/doc/vsftpd/EXAMPLE/08:40
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sivangI have an Ubuntu VMWare Workstation server, I came this morning and saw it reached kernel panic08:40
garycsivang  hey can you help with vsftp08:40
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sivangwhere would I find logs to attache to a possible bug report?08:40
linnercafuego:  and thus the reason it dials out to the net for the time?08:41
garyccrimsun thanks08:41
cafuego_linner: And cheap system clocks tend to mess up as well.08:41
sivanggaryc: what seems to be the problem?08:41
crimsunsivang: what sort of logs?08:41
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sivangcrimsun: klogd :)08:41
B_166-ER-Xmy whole problem is in fact that i'm not logged as the session manager..08:41
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cafuego_linner: Well, if you tell it to do so, yes.08:41
garychey folks -  I just installed vsftpd and I need a kick start document that shows me how to setup users_list enable/deny etc.08:41
esacnalioth: can you try again please ?08:41
linnercafuego:  i thought it did it by default08:41
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sivangcrimsun: I want to have the logs of this, this HOry box just oopsed with kernel panic and it seems important08:41
cafuego_linner: yes, but only once.08:41
garycsivang: I just installed vsftpd and I need a kick start document that shows me how to setup users_list enable/deny etc.08:41
linneroh at the start up08:41
linnercafuego:  but if i tell to in GNOME to check periodically it doesn't?08:42
cafuego_linner: AFter it does that, the clock will probably skew again, but it wouldn't by default update the time again until the next bootup.08:42
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sivangcrimsun: I can just reboot now, but I guess that's loosing the valuable log data no ?08:42
B_166-ER-Xcrimsun , so is there a way that i unlog on this username and log for real on the x-session manager user ?08:42
naliothlinner: you can always have a cronjob for hte time08:42
cafuego_linner: Not sure about Gnome doing it, i override that one by hand.08:42
odb_does anyone know if the RTL8180 wireless card is supports out of the box with ubuntu?08:42
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garycsinang I was just told to look in /usr/share/doc/vsftpd/example   if I can find that08:42
linnercafuego:  and with sudo apt-get install ntp-simple ... that cures it+08:42
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wrabbit01Hey everybody.... I'm editing Grub to display windows XP in the menu but I'm stuck at a point.  I've found a way to do it but from what I'm reading, it assumes that the location of windows is /dev/hdal when in actual fact, it is hdcl.  This confuses matters as the rest of the instructions only follow the path of hdcl.  Does that makes sense?08:42
linnernalioth:  i have no idea what or how to use a chronjob08:43
odb_and can I install anything for the debien packages to ubuntu?08:43
crimsunsivang: OOPS info will be in /var/log/syslog08:43
sweetdevilelow....pipzzzzzzzzzzz08:43
cafuego_nalioth: You can't both cron and ntp-simple though. Whines about socket in use.08:43
linnercafuego:  ok... let me give it a shot08:43
sweetdevilgsgdfhgdfhgf08:43
sivangcrimsun: ok, and it doesn't get clean when rebooting right?08:43
B_166-ER-Xman, it would have been muchhh faster to just format and reinstall,  ;|08:43
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crimsunsivang: /var/log/kern.log as well08:43
crimsunsivang: correc08:43
crimsunt08:43
esacsigh forget it08:43
aftertafboing......08:43
sivangcrimsun: ok, now to reboot it :)08:43
naliothlinner: it's easy08:43
B_166-ER-X so is there a way that i unlog on this username and log for real on the x-session manager user ? or do i really have to reinstall ?08:43
cafuego_linner: sudo crontab -e; */30 * * * * /usr/sbin/ntpdate pool.ntp.org; save08:43
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aftertaflinner:  we opened a can of worms there sweetie ;)08:44
linnercafuego:  it already says i have the latest version08:44
cafuego_linner: that would run ntpdate on the hour and on the half hour08:44
garycsivang I was just told to look in /usr/share/doc/vsftpd/example   if I can find that08:44
wrabbit01As you can see, I'm following the instructions on how to add windows from here... http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#addwindowsentrygrubmenu08:44
linnercafuego:  what does that do?08:44
linneroh okay08:44
cafuego_linner: Then ntp-simple is indeed broken on hoary.08:44
wrabbit01Please help.  I'm almost there.  I can smell it.  I just need some assistance!08:44
linneraftertaf:  I thinkt that I have...08:44
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sivanggaryc: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1371.html08:44
sivanggaryc: see if that helps08:44
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cafuego_.. and on breezy :-)08:44
aftertaflinner:  or when it desynchs you can just type this once:    sudo /etc/init.d/ntp restart08:44
aftertafdoh08:45
cafuego_aftertaf: That completely defeats the purpose of having it to begin with, though.08:45
aftertaf   sudo /etc/init.d/ntpdate restart08:45
windows_ate_my_banyone else have problems after installing nvidia drivers..sometimes it hangs or just wont shut down..08:45
linneraftertaf:  so many solutions... how do i know which one to choose?08:45
aftertafcafuego:  at least shell be on time though ;)08:45
naliothesac: you having success?08:45
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crimsunB_166-ER-X: I don't understand what you're asking08:45
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apsynchi, how can I know the temperature of my processor in linux?08:45
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linner:)08:45
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aftertaflinner:  depends on what you want to do and how much it matters08:46
BooZeeI've downloaded http://giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/w32codecs_1%253a20050216-0.0_i386.deb. what do I do with it?08:46
BooZeehow can I open it?08:46
naliothlinner: confusion is cured by education08:46
aftertaflinner:  type the cmd i just gave you, it will synch your pc for now08:46
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esacnalioth: naw that's ok .. thanks though. i made this computer full dmz, so i don't know why it isnt working08:46
crimsunB_166-ER-X: can you sudo -s ?08:46
linneraftertaf:  i just want my clock to tell me the time when i want to know it08:46
naliothBooZee: open a terminal where the  file is08:46
thoreauputicBooZee:  sudo dpkg -i <nameoffile.deb>08:46
linnernalioth:  and this is very true...........08:46
linneraftertaf:  ok..... ignore what cafuego told me?08:46
cafuego_nalioth: or euthanasia08:46
apsynchi, how can I know the temperature of my processor in linux?08:46
B_166-ER-Xyes08:46
aftertafhehe linner type away then.... your clock shouldnt lose the plot so much after ;)08:46
naliothesac: c'mon dude, i've converted it to .tbz for you08:46
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cafuego_apsync: use the 'lm-sensors' modules and package.08:47
linneraftertaf:  okey dokey :)08:47
naliothapsync: /msg ubotu repeat08:47
B_166-ER-Xcrimsun , i have 2 user of my username logged in, and one is a x-session manager, and its not my current user.   how to i delete my current one and log on the right one.. thats my question08:47
aftertaf   sudo /etc/init.d/ntpdate restart08:47
apsyncok thank you08:47
garyccrimsun:  I am in the /usr/share/doc/vsftpd/EXAMPLE/  folder   is it the readme??????08:47
crimsunB_166-ER-X: just log out of GNOME08:47
linneraftertaf:  okey dokey!08:47
crimsungaryc: there are tons of examples in that folder08:47
esacnalioth: i just don't want to keep asking you to try and try again for the next hour and waste your time, i appreciate the help but my inability to configure my dang router is screwing things up :(08:47
linneraftertaf:  how many times do i need to do that?08:47
linneraftertaf:  may I PM you?08:48
naliothesac: do you know of other xmssion methods?08:48
aftertaflinner:  once, to synch... and after your clock should stay more or less ok.08:48
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furicAre there any irc clients, gtk based, which dont such as much as xchat?  idealy a gtk konversation which didn't crash every 5 minutes?08:48
esacnalioth: ftp, http .. but im not running either right now, if you are running one we could transfer easy enough08:48
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naliothfuric: ditch the gui, use irssi08:49
crimsunfuric: mozilla-chatzilla?08:49
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matrixmedia players ?08:49
thoreauputicfuric: xchat crashes? I've never seen that here...08:49
garyccrimsun  I see folders for virtual users and such  -  I just want to allow but restrict users to there home folder08:49
furici would also like to not dedicate a quarter of my systems memory to a client?08:49
crimsunfuric: there's also gaim08:49
furicNo xchat doesn't crash, konversation crashes08:49
B_166-ER-Xcrimsun, i think i did make THE error :  i just checked, and i'm still with 2 user, i think i have 2 same username with the same pass as well08:50
furicxchat just has a dodgy interface and no integration with anything in particular08:50
nalioththoreauputic: you know of anywhere you can put files to xfer to folks?08:50
naliothfuric: use kvirc08:50
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crimsungaryc: have you tried searching Google?08:50
furicgaim is your answer? makes me want to just go and write my own client08:50
linnercafuego:  may i PM you?08:50
thoreauputicnalioth: I don't understand the question08:50
thoreauputicnalioth: do you mean a server where files can be put?08:51
nalioththoreauputic: a user in here has asked for a .sit to be opened. i have repkgd it in .tbz and he cannot recx dcc08:51
jericohi people08:51
furicNo go on kvirc, depends on kdelibs, everything that uses kdelibs is horribly unstable on my system08:51
jericower is frm phil here08:51
dooglusso I see I've got 4 ntp packages installed - is that too many? ntp, ntp-server, ntp-simple, ntpdate08:51
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thoreauputicnalioth: do you have a webserver you can upload it to?08:51
B_166-ER-Xcrimsun :|08:51
naliothjerico: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic please08:51
nalioththoreauputic: i do not08:51
jericoi dont know hw to use it08:52
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jericobby08:52
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furicAnd i would prefer to avoid the uglyness of qt08:52
crimsunfuric: tried lostirc?08:52
naliothtagalog in #ubuntu-ph08:52
Knelixguys... How can I move a file to root in Nautilus?... It continues telling me I don't have permission.08:52
garyccrismsun  yes,  I got a small doc there but it lacks the detail I need.  I don't  even know the command to restart vsftpd08:52
matrixanything that works on desbian will work on ubuntu am i correct ?08:52
crimsungaryc: sudo invoke-rc.d vsftpd restart08:52
topiehi08:52
naliothKnelix: "sudo"08:52
jericoany body here08:52
thoreauputicnalioth: how big is it? Does he have a gmail account or something?08:52
B_166-ER-Xif i cannot get any help here i'll reinstall08:52
topiecnt u b my cht met08:52
Knelixnalioth: How in the gui?08:52
furiccrimsun, Nope, i'll give it a go08:53
dooglusfuric: irssi is the answer08:53
furicdooglus, NO!08:53
naliothjerico: topie: in #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-ph, please08:53
garyccrismsun  do I need sudo if i am in the root term08:53
topiehi08:53
jericoy08:53
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naliothKnelix: good question gui08:53
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crimsunfuric: are you using Hoary or Breezy?08:53
topiehllo, cnt u b my cht met08:53
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furicHoary08:53
hgmgmwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa08:53
Seveastopie, speak proper english in here and stay on topic08:53
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pepsiif i run another xserver by doing X -- :1, how do i run stuff in there?08:53
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crimsunB_166-ER-X: why not just log out and log back in?08:53
jericoi need water08:54
dooglusfuric: you can run irssi in a konsole.  best of both worlds!08:54
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furicdooglus, NO!08:54
furicdooglus, And why the heck would i use konsole? in gnome?08:54
B_166-ER-Xcrimsun, i DID this, but i think i have 2 username wich are the same, and setted with the same passwords, so it logs 2 at a time08:54
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furicI specifically asked for gtk based clients so i could avoid kde's instability08:54
garyccrismsun  do I need sudo if i am in the root term08:54
crimsunB_166-ER-X: no, that's _normal_08:54
Knelixnalioth: On Mac OS X I would just change the permission or "authenticate" myself... In Natiulus/Gnome I'm not sure... I've tried running as root using the utility provided, but it always gives me an error.08:54
crimsungaryc: no08:54
thoreauputicfuric: *cough* you can run irssi in any terminal emulator08:54
sweet_naughtycare to chat!??pvt me!!!! now!!!!08:54
sweet_naughtycare to chat!??pvt me!!!! now!!!!08:55
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furicits like running linux in cygwin to get the best of both worlds, no software and instability08:55
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B_166-ER-Xwell i did log out and came back and its the same thing..08:55
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furicI know, i still like my clients to know what a pixel is08:55
garyccrismsun  what is xinetd08:55
crimsunB_166-ER-X: right, that's normal. Can you use sudo?08:55
Seveasnalioth, op-hopper ;)08:55
naliothKnelix: unfortunatly, giving gnome things root powers is not good, and i dont know of any way in the gui to do it08:55
B_166-ER-Xyes08:55
B_166-ER-Xi'm sudo now08:55
thoreauputicfuric: where did you get the attitude? Can I have some too ?08:55
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crimsungaryc: the man page answers that :)08:55
B_166-ER-Xso ?08:56
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naliothSeveas: you beat me to it08:56
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Knelixnalioth: :-/08:56
garyccrismsun  Thanks!!  what's a man page08:56
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naliothKnelix: use the terminal, it's easier and safer (gnome with root is not nice)08:56
crimsunB_166-ER-X: sudo adduser $USER audio08:56
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furicI got it from xchat's crazy interface making me offend an ircop on a network, twice, and konversation crashing every half hour or so, along with every other kde app08:56
naliothfuric: irssi has no interface08:57
B_166-ER-Xadduser: Le groupe audio existe dj.08:57
crimsunI should update lostirc in breezy/universe08:57
naliothfuric: it's console only08:57
jericodri sa 1st gate sa 2nd pc08:57
furicThats exactly the problem08:57
ArkainiumI remember using a utility that let me visually change which init scripts to run at specific run levels... anyone know the name of the program I'm talking about?08:57
B_166-ER-Xalready exist, for english unilingual08:57
Knelixnalioth: Can you recommend a good unix command reference online (that tells you how to copy/move files, do things in CLI)?08:57
naliothjerico: please english in here. tagalog in #ubuntu-ph08:57
furicI wan't a stable, easy interface, and the best answer is no interface at all aparently08:57
nalioth!tell Knelix about cli08:57
crimsunfuric: did you try lostirc?08:57
furicI just apted it in, giving it a go...08:58
thoreauputicfuric: chatzilla is decent, but a bit limited08:58
garyccrismsun  Thanks!  bye the way, what's a man page08:58
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newlady[;.;[08:58
BLUE_ICEwew08:58
Knelixnalioth: Thanks. :-)08:58
crimsungaryc: it's a manual page describing usage and semantics of the program/library08:58
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furicchatzilla may be decent, but i have better things to do with my ram08:58
MadpilotPPCgaryc, try "man man" on a command prompt to find out08:58
apsynchow do I use lm-sensors ?08:58
B_166-ER-Xcrimsun, its just saying that the group already exist.08:58
crimsunB_166-ER-X: which command did you execute?08:59
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B_166-ER-Xadduser $USER audio08:59
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thoreauputicfuric: OK I have better things to do than listen to opinionated rants i guess08:59
MadpilotPPCapsync, search the Ubuntu forums, there is a howto there that works08:59
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crimsunB_166-ER-X: adduser oli audio08:59
niceguyhi09:00
B_166-ER-Xjsut the %09:00
B_166-ER-Xarr09:00
B_166-ER-Xok09:00
niceguycn u b my cht met09:00
crimsunB_166-ER-X: good, now log out and back in, and you should be able to hear sounds09:00
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niceguynot09:00
niceguyok09:00
naliothniceguy: not in here, join #ubuntu-offtopic09:00
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brownie17seveas, do you even remember why any of those guys got banned?09:00
naliothbrownie17: yes we do09:01
Seveasbrownie17, for the most09:01
garyccrismsun  would I type man vsftpd09:01
crimsungaryc: yes09:01
brownie17nalioth, Seveas ok.09:01
furiclostirc seems nice09:01
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apsynchi, how do I use lm-sensors ?09:01
Arkainiumso on one knows what I'm talking about?  it's like an ncurses interface to update-rc.d09:01
brownie17Seveas, nalioth this is just suggestion, and i am not telling you how to do your job, but maybe you should ban less liberally, and just kick more often. but you don't have to listen to me09:01
crimsunArkainium: there's a graphical one- BUM09:01
thoreauputicArkainium: rcconf09:01
B_166-ER-Xcrimsun, never considered for a 'GOD' job somewhere ? :) thankx a lot ..09:02
crimsunB_166-ER-X: np09:02
garyccrismsun  can it be printed out09:02
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Seveasbrownie17, some bans in there are actually not bans, just +q (mutes)09:02
crimsungaryc: sure, you can enscript it or whatnot09:02
naliothbrownie17: in #ubuntu-offtopic, please09:02
B_166-ER-Xtook me 4 hours to get audio running..arr :)09:02
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B_166-ER-Xnow onto video output...hehe09:02
naliothB_166-ER-X: you're doing well, took me 2 days09:02
B_166-ER-Xnalioth : its my 2nd time doing it09:02
B_166-ER-Xhaha09:02
matrixO.o09:03
brownie17Seveas, ok09:03
Arkainiumthoreauputic, is that in universe?09:03
CaiN_SAhow do i change the usplash image ?09:03
garyccrismsun  wow great.  what ever that means.   Sorry but I am very new.09:03
thoreauputic!info rcconf09:03
uboturcconf: (Debian Runlevel configuration tool), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.11 (hoary), Packaged size: 16 kB, Installed size: 112 kB09:03
SeveasCaiN_SA, not.09:03
CaiN_SASeveas,  ????09:03
thoreauputicArkainium: aparently09:03
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matrixnalioth, how do i access my /etc/apt/sources.list ?09:03
Arkainiumthoreauputic, thanks.  that's what I was looking for.  :)09:03
CaiN_SAi want to change it i dont like the one thats in atm09:03
thoreauputicArkainium: yw :)09:03
naliothmatrix: using the terminal, type "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"09:03
SeveasCaiN_SA, you can't, unless you recompile the package09:04
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Arkainium:q09:04
cx22hello again guys!09:04
Arkainiumhey, this isn't vi!  :P09:04
cx22can someone help me in installing Samba? im a newbie in Ubuntu and i don't know how09:04
Seveaslol09:04
thoreauputicArkainium: rofl09:04
crimsungaryc: I think the man page for vsftpd seems fairly concise09:04
cx22what do i have to type?09:04
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Seveasthere is an irc plugin for vi ;)09:04
matrixnalioth, i want to add this how do i? deb http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/debian sarge main09:04
crimsungaryc: for instance, the chroot_local_user directive09:04
pc22how do i unlock a file?09:05
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naliothmatrix: that is not a good idea, you may break your ubuntu09:05
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brownie17pc22, what do you mean, unlock?09:05
pc22chmod09:05
cx22hello, can somebody help me?09:05
naliothmatrix: what is wrong with vlc in the repos?09:05
thoreauputicmatrix: use the vlc in ubuntu09:05
Seveaspc22, by closing the application that locks it09:05
CaiN_SASeveas, thats stupid09:05
Seveascx22, breezy?09:05
naliothcx22: if you ask something09:05
cx22hoary09:05
SeveasCaiN_SA, no it's not.09:05
brownie17pc22, don't know09:05
CaiN_SAthats why bootsplash is kewl  :/09:05
matrixnalioth, well i need a good media player that has all codecs and is there one in ubuntu ?09:05
cx22Ubuntu 5.0409:05
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naliothmatrix: yes there is09:05
Seveascx22, upgrade to breezy, it's 1000x easier there ;)09:05
nalioth!tell matrix about sources09:05
CaiN_SASeveas, it is stupid.09:06
cx22is that Ubuntu 5.10?09:06
Seveascx22, yes09:06
naliothmatrix: if you enable universe and multiverse, you'll find all sorts of neat things09:06
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SeveasCaiN_SA, not if you know what you are talking about09:06
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cx22i though the official release for that is on October?09:06
rickyhi everybody09:06
CaiN_SASeveas, why is dynamic swapping of images stupid ?09:06
pc22Seveas, its an apps from xp that i want to install using wine09:06
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Seveascx22, correct, but it's working already :)09:06
matrixnalioth, i did enable it the other night09:07
cx22can i run Yahoo Messenger there?09:07
SeveasCaiN_SA, look at how usplash works and you'll see why09:07
nalioth!tell matrix about synaptic09:07
Seveascx22, gaim does yahoo just fine09:07
cx22and other Online Games like Ragnarok, MU Online and others?09:07
KnelixUrg09:07
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rickyi need help with usplash, i've leave the item vga=791 on commandline of menu.lst for grub, and now i've the text-line of init process, but it's possible to have a graphial image like a bootsplash on other distro ???09:08
cx22i've been planning to switch into Ubuntu for my net cafe. what Linux distro would you suggest?09:08
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cx22i've been testing Ubuntu 5.04 if i can manage to install all the games that i've been playing here in windows09:08
Seveasricky, that's a part of usplash that does not work yet (and minf you: usplash is not bootsplash)09:08
KnelixI keep on getting "unable to find the development tool 'cc' in your path... make sure you have 'gcc' package installed" from the NVIDIA driver installer.... even though I moved it to root. I searched and found gcc, why isn't the driver finding it?09:08
naliothcx22: you'll get a more informed answer if you ask in #freenode09:08
Seveas!nvidia09:09
ubotu[nvidia]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia09:09
naliothKnelix: install "build-essential"09:09
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garyccrismsun  how do I get out of man man.   (so i can go into man vsftpd)09:09
SeveasKnelix, don't use nvidia.com crud, Ubuntu ships those drives in a better way09:09
rickySeveas, tks, and is possible to install bootsplash on ubuntu breezy ???09:09
crimsungaryc: 'q'09:09
Seveasgaryc, q09:09
Seveasricky, yes09:09
Skidmorning09:10
rickyand it work fine ??? i need to remove usplash ???09:10
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KnelixSeveas: I just want the ******* card to work.... I'm going to erase and re-install when the stable release gets here anyway, and the Ubuntu drivers should work by then I would hope.09:10
Knelixnalioth: Looking into it.09:11
TH33V1LR351D3N7how do I get rid of all this brown?09:11
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MadpilotPPCTH33V1LR351D3N7, change the theme...09:12
bimberilol - question of the day!09:12
MadpilotPPC!+themes09:12
ubotuthemes is, like, totally, at http://art.ubuntu.com -  http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/ - http://www.guistyles.com09:12
KnelixTH33V1LR351D3N7: lol! Just change your prefs in Gnome...09:12
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KnelixTH33V1LR351D3N7: I know what you mean, btw! :-P09:12
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MadpilotPPCI've de-browned my home machine too...09:13
criminyIs there a 'make world09:13
TH33V1LR351D3N7yeah, I've got rid of the theme already but what about the login screen etc09:13
criminyeh, Is there a 'make world' for ubuntu?09:13
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tgacriminy, what's a make world?09:13
SeveasTH33V1LR351D3N7, there are themes for that too09:13
Seveascriminy, forget gentoo09:13
naliothcriminy: ask uncle google about 'apt-build09:13
Skidhehe gentoo bod?09:13
MadpilotPPCTH33V1LR351D3N7, you can change all those themes too09:13
thoreauputiccriminy: yes, invoke-rc.d $DEITY <j/k>09:13
trshey, just installed Ubuntu on my comp and love it so far, but I'm stuck at 640x480 60Hz.  The change resolution option won't offer any other choices.  Thoughts?09:13
criminyI don't use gentoo =P09:13
RiverRatIs there a ubuntu CVS server that is different than debians that has all the patches that ubuntu has applied in it.09:13
Seveasthis is Ubuntu09:13
TH33V1LR351D3N7cool how do you change that09:13
naliothtrs: /msg ubotu fixres09:14
onkarshindeI have added a new ATI Radeon 7000 AGP card to my machine. Do i need to install any special packages to take advantage of the card? Do i need to do any special configuration?09:14
Skidcriminy: have a look at the man pages for apt, apt-get & apt-cache09:14
SeveasTH33V1LR351D3N7, art.gnome.org/faq.php09:14
Skidand feel the love :] 09:14
trsk, what'd that do?09:14
TH33V1LR351D3N7thanks09:14
thoreauputic!nickometer TH33V1LR351D3N709:14
ubotu'TH33V1LR351D3N7' is 99.9738% lame, thoreauputic09:14
criminyNever used debian..use archlinux. I assume the ubuntu CD I have isn't build for i68609:14
thoreauputici thought so...09:14
criminybuilt, I mean09:14
sobersabreguys. if i want to add additional glibc to the system.09:14
bimberir. o. f. l.09:14
Seveascriminy, which cd?09:14
naliothcriminy: there are several kernels available09:15
MadpilotPPCthoreauputic, wth is the nickometer? :)09:15
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Seveassobersabre, no you don't09:15
criminyI mean the entire system09:15
sobersabreSeveas, yes I do.09:15
naliothsobersabre: then you'll have a nice doorstop09:15
Seveassobersabre, why on earth?09:15
onkarshindeCan someone help me?09:15
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sobersabreSeveas, don't be so |square| ;-)09:15
Seveasi'm not :)09:16
fluor_how do i run 32bit programs on 64-bit ubuntu? s there another way than chroot?09:16
fluor_first i have to log in, then su, then sudo bash to root, then chroot /chroot09:16
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Seveashaving 2 glibcs will give you hell :)09:16
criminyeh. Can't find the cd09:16
sobersabreassume you have a dynamically linked, old binary only application.09:16
sobersabreand you don't want to run a RH system.09:16
catfoxhi all. does anyone know if the philips goGear mp3 player will work with linux?09:16
Seveasget a new version ;)09:16
sobersabreespecially old RH system09:16
criminyah. "Version 5.04 for intel x86"09:16
sobersabreSeveas, new version of what ?09:16
Seveascriminy, that's the correct one09:17
catfoxor should i get an ipod nano? :)09:17
Seveassobersabre, of the application09:17
sobersabrethe company that wrote the app is... hmm... in /dev/null09:17
criminyYeah, but is it compiled for i386,486,etc?09:17
sobersabreit is not a small app.09:17
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sobersabreSeveas, now, BACK to my question.09:17
onkarshindeCan anyone help me? I have added a new ATI Radeon 7000 AGP card to my machine. Do i need to install any special packages to take advantage of the card? Do i need to do any special configuration?09:17
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sobersabregot the source of glibc.09:18
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MadpilotPPC!tell onkarshinde about ati09:18
sobersabredo i need anything except it ? any deps ?09:18
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HaNaziranyone else here having sound issues with gaim?09:19
naliothsobersabre: if you compile and install a new version of glibc, you might as well compile and install the rest of your box09:19
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Seveassobersabre, no just glibc will probably work09:19
thoreauputicMadpilotPPC:  /msg ubotu wtf09:19
sobersabrenalioth, i need the other, old version of glibc somewhere in /usr/local09:19
thoreauputic;-)09:19
Seveasmake sure you ./confihure it to /usr/local/something09:19
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HaNaziranyone else here having sound issues with gaim?09:19
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naliothsobersabre: whatever. just do as seveas said and make sure it is in /usr/local/ when you are done09:20
linnerHaNazir:  nope.. i use it all the time09:20
RiverRatIs there a ubuntu CVS server that is different than debians that has all the patches that ubuntu has applied in it.09:20
naliothRiverRat: not to my knowledge09:20
HaNazirlinner: breezy??09:20
linnerHaNazir:  yes :)09:20
RiverRatthanks nalioth09:20
sobersabreHaNazir, no problems with gaim.09:20
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MadpilotPPCthoreauputic, someone has been teaching that poor bot dirty words...09:20
MadpilotPPC;)09:20
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linnerHaNazir:  are you having sound problems in other apps?09:21
cafuego_!gentoo09:21
ubotucafuego_: Do they come in packets of five?09:21
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cafuego_MadpilotPPC: Nah, he doesn't know dirty words.09:21
kemikubotu:  is doing dirtytalk ?09:21
ubotukemik: I haven't a clue09:21
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thoreauputickemik: not really09:21
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Knelixnalioth: Why can't I ever find anything (I'm looking for) in the App Install app? Is there anywhere else I should be looking? I could not find "build-essential" there.09:21
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kemikbummer.. im a sucker for cyberbotsex09:21
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nalioth!tell Knelix about synaptic09:22
linnerkemik:  that's kinda sad dude09:22
linner;)09:22
Viking667anyone had any luck running the latest flightgear (a flight simulator) on hoary+some updated packages?09:22
MadpilotPPClinner, more than "kinda", I'd say...09:22
linnerMadpilotPPC:  well that's what i was thinking but i didn't want to be so harsh09:22
linner)09:22
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linner:)09:23
thoreauputic;)09:23
joel_how do I get java running on ubuntu???09:23
kemiklinner:  im in therapy for it ... mom caught me in the act09:23
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kemik!java09:24
ubotumethinks java is to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java09:24
mischahi all09:24
linnerkemik:  if i knew you better, i'd really go there...... but i'm a "nice" girl so I won't :)09:24
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drbombay43need help, when I run; sudo modprobe ndiswrapper , get error message (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted, some one please help09:24
mischaquestion: how do i stop the irritating sound when login in on gnome on ubuntu?09:24
kemikhehe no worries.. im just bs'ing :)09:24
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crimsunmischa: disable sound events09:25
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kandinskihey, is it ok if I just upgrade from hoary to breezy by changing the lines on my sources.list?09:25
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thoreauputic;-)09:25
Ashkandinski: it worked for me09:25
mischacrimsun, where?09:25
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linnerhehehehehe09:25
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Knelixnalioth: I was getting confused between synaptic and the Gnome App installer... I thought they were one on the same.09:25
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kandinskis/hoary/breezy/ and then apt-get upgrade; apt-get update then09:25
naliothkandinski: that is what your system is designed to do09:25
kandinskita Ash09:25
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linneraftertaf:  you back?09:26
kemikmischa:  system->prefs->sounds09:26
Viking667ewk. that'd take some grunt.09:26
Ashkandinski: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade09:26
mischakemik, tanx09:26
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joel_HOW DO I GET JAVA RUNNING ON UBUNTU I TRIED THE LINK THE ROBOT GAVE ME BUT WHEN I ENTERED THE COMMAND LINE I ONLY GOT THIS "Reading package lists... Done09:26
joel_Building dependency tree... Done09:26
joel_E: Couldn't find package j2re1.409:26
joel_"09:26
garyccrismsun you still there09:26
naliothjoel_: enought with the caps09:26
crimsungaryc: somewhat, I'm debugging something atm. What's up?09:26
garyccrismsun you still there??09:26
naliothjoel_: hoary or breezy?09:27
joel_hoary09:27
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garyccrismsun would you mind testing my ftp site09:27
aftertafhehe boing09:27
crimsungaryc: work blocks it, sorry09:27
linner:)09:27
dexhi09:27
wezzer!breezy09:28
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade09:28
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garyclinner  would you mind testing my ftp server09:28
kemikjoel_:  follow the Sun Java method then ?09:28
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linnergaryc:  sure09:28
linnersame as before?09:28
Knelixnalioth: Now it's giving me a different error... "Unable to find kernel sources... make sure you have installed the kernel source files for your kernel..... you may specify the kernel source path with the '---kernel--source-path' commandline option"09:28
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joel_onslaughts?what?09:29
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Knelix!kernel source09:29
ubotuKnelix: I don't know09:29
garyclinner  68.89.129.129   just use anonymous09:29
linnerok... i'll try .. give me a sec09:29
naliothjoel_: get your java from here http://www.giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/09:29
thoreauputicjoel_: glad to see you removed the gum from your caps key :)09:29
linnergaryc:  connection refused09:29
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joel_heh, you people got something against caps?09:30
aftertaflinner == website beta tester ;)09:30
thoreauputicjoel_: yes09:30
aftertafjoel_:  caps == shouting09:30
garyclinner any idea why?09:30
linneraftertaf:  why yep :)09:30
linnergaryc:09:30
naliothKnelix: use synaptic and install your kernel sources09:30
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linnergaryc:  let me try it agian09:30
linneragain09:30
kemikKnelix:  think you need linux-headers-($uname -r)09:30
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linnergaryc:  let me try somthing else hold on a sec09:31
garyclinner it is just an empty folder09:31
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joel_ok nalioth thanks for the link09:31
linnergaryc:  may i pm you?09:31
joel_i downloaded the file and opened it and i have09:31
schmitztdid anyone ever use openct to import certificates in applications like evolution? I don't know how to "mount" my aladdin etoken09:31
garyclinner  if you get in try to upload something09:32
naliothjoel_: no pasting in here09:32
kemiklinux-headers-$(uname -r)  of course09:32
Knelixnalioth: What would that include-- All results or just a package?09:32
garyclinner what's pm09:32
linnerprivate message09:32
joel_control.tar.gz,  data.tar.gz, debian-binary09:32
joel_is ther any way i should install it?09:32
kemikKnelix:  apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)09:32
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garyclinner yes09:32
naliothwhats the apt-get command to install kernel headers?09:32
crimsunapt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)09:32
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naliothKnelix: i'm not sure on how to do some things easily09:32
kemikguess im being ignored today09:32
naliothKnelix: see what crimsun said above09:33
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kamstrupis anybody else having X trouble?09:33
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aftertafkamstrup:  what type? what is your pb?09:33
thoreauputicgaryc: your ftp server is working09:33
naliothkemik: i ignore everything but lines with my nick in front of em09:33
kamstrupI mean; X wont start09:33
linnerthoreauputic:  so it's my end?09:33
thoreauputicgaryc: I connected on port 2109:33
aftertafkamstrup:  breezy?09:33
kamstrupyes09:33
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kamstrupjust updated 10 mins ago09:33
aftertafok.... what is the exact error message?09:33
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linnerthoreauputic:  i tried it in gFTP too and i get connected09:34
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linneri mean disconnected09:34
kamstrupaftertaf: there's no error messages09:34
kemiknalioth:  you didnt ignore crimsun  ;) hehe09:34
aftertafkamstrup:  if need to paste, paste PM.... and try just startx09:34
kamstrupaftertaf: not even in /var/log/Xorg.0.log09:34
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thoreauputiclinner: possibly an authentication thing - it seems to connect OK09:34
Viking667ahhh well. Night, all.09:34
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Knelix2E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavail able)09:34
Knelix2E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proc ess using it?09:34
naliothkemik: roughly 90% of this text goes right by me09:34
garycthereauputic  hey upload a file so I can see if it's there09:34
linnerthoreauputic:  must be ... I'm just glad it works properly09:34
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aftertafkamstrup:  even when you startx?09:35
Knelix2<Sigh>09:35
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naliothKnelix: close all synaptic and apt instanaces09:35
kamstrupaftertaf: yes09:35
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user_how to dual boot ubuntu and windows xp?09:35
linnernow this is buggin me.... need to try it again09:35
kemikuser_:  install ubuntu and it's automagic09:35
user_what will i install firsttt?09:35
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aftertafkamstrup:  weird..... try apt-get install xfs, and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:35
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garyclinner  does you firewall stop you??09:35
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B_166-ER-XI would need a hand to install my nvidia driver properly, i THINK i did it, but i'm not habing the splash screen at boot so i am doubting09:35
linnergaryc:  i don't think so09:35
linnergaryc:  let me try something else09:36
naliothuser_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo09:36
linnerhold on a sec09:36
aftertafkamstrup:  and also change X driver to vesa, to eliminate card problems09:36
kamstrupaftertaf: I've just reconfigured xserver-xorg a few times... I'll try xfs...09:36
tristanmikeKnelix, close synaptic09:36
aftertafkamstrup:  and apt-get -f install,  too09:36
tristanmikeKnelix2, *09:36
kamstrupaftertaf: I'm not sure my card is able to use vesa... It's a Voodoo Banshee09:36
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unimatrix9hi there09:36
naliothkamstrup: VESA runs on ANY card09:37
aftertafkamstrup:  vesa is vga mode for all09:37
aftertafhi unimatrix909:37
linnerConnected to 68.89.129.129:2109:37
linnerDisconnecting from site 68.89.129.12909:37
linnerWaiting 30 seconds until trying to connect again09:37
garycthereauputic  I thought it was supposed to be port 20  -  I need to look at the conf file again09:37
unimatrix9there is no livecd for edubuntu?09:37
linnergary i sent you a PM09:37
kamstrupnalioth: Yes, I though so too... Until I tried this box :-D09:37
naliothlinner:09:37
linnernalioth:  yes sir09:37
garycthereauputic  did you see my banner  Welcome to Gary's ftp09:37
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aftertafpaste not,09:37
naliothlinner: pasting goes in #flood or a pastebin09:37
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linnernalioth:  oh crap... i thought i was pming him i'm sorry09:38
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user_kimek: what if   i installed first is ubuntu? it is possible to runnn windows and ubuntu in dual?09:38
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Knelixkemik, crimsun, tristanmike, nalioth: No you're not being ignored, kemik :-) Thanks... that part seems to have worked at least. :-)09:38
naliothuser_: then you'll need to repair your grub after you install window09:38
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user_ok09:38
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user_tnx!!09:38
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garyclinner I thought it was supposed to be port 2009:39
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linneraftertaf:  why thank you09:39
garycthereauputic  did you see my banner  Welcome to Gary's ftp09:39
linnergaryc:  obviously i'm absolutely no use to you... i'm very sorry09:39
aftertafgaryc:  i saw your apache page, then again i cant ftp so i httpd09:40
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thoreauputicgaryc: no, it connects, but it disconnects immediately I try to do an "ls"09:40
aftertaflinner:  dont worry, you'll be useful to somebody, i'm sure ;)09:40
user_ how about kubuntu-desktop? what will it change to my ubunnntu?09:40
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thoreauputicgaryc: I used lftp and login anonymous09:40
aftertafuser_:  youll have kde happinessa t your disposal09:40
fluor_how do i run 32bit programs on 64-bit ubuntu? s there another way than chroot?  first i have to log in, then su, then sudo bash to root, then chroot /chroot09:40
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naliothuser_: nothing. but will give you a new login option (under 'sessions')09:40
kamstrupaftertaf, nalioth: oh, wait. my .xsession-errors is totally flooded...09:41
user_ok09:41
KnelixUgh... It still failed... something about different compiler versions... Seriously, I don't think it's worth the trouble to install...09:41
linneraftertaf:  you're sweet........ i really didn't mean that as a sympathy thing................ i just didn't want garyc to be discouraged.. he's had problems with his server before09:41
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aftertafkamstrup:  ahaaaaa :)09:41
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duendehelp: for some reason, i am unable to ping "localhost" or "127.0.0.1" thus, its causing havoc on services.  any suggestions?09:41
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Skidmaybe you need to enable loopback09:41
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user_hooow aboout apt getting plugins for dvd? mp3's and video?09:42
aftertafduende:  restart networking, see if you get lo in ifconfig09:42
user_where can i get that?09:42
duendeSkid, you mean in 'interfaces'? it seems to be enabled. i tried re-starting networking09:42
aftertafuser_:  enable multiverse09:42
user_ic09:42
duendeaftertaf, lo is in ifconfig09:42
thoreauputic!tell user_ about restricted09:42
Skidduende: /etc/network/interfaces09:42
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Skidin that file, is htere: auth lo09:42
aftertafduende:  ahhh... check hosts then09:42
Skidand09:42
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duendeSkid, yip, it appears to be setup properly09:42
Skidiface lo inet loopback09:42
Skidhm09:42
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garyclinner I used wu-ftpd and it worked great but the users could see each others folder and I wanted them to see only their home09:42
Skidifconfig doesn't shwo any localhost?09:42
duendeaftertaf, hosts has "127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost orestes"09:42
garyclinner so I switched to vsftpd09:43
duendeSkid, ifconfig show's 'lo' entry09:43
aftertafduende:  firewall woes?09:43
linnergaryc:  oh okay09:43
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linnergaryc:  i was using gftp ... changed to port 20 and im getting the same message09:43
Skidand when you ping 127.0.0.1 it just sits there?09:43
duendeaftertaf, i flused iptables rules, i didn't think i had any set anyways, but to be safe i flushed them, still nothing09:43
duendeSkid, yeah, just sits there09:43
Skidwhat about 127.0.0.2 ?09:43
naliothlinner: ftp is on port 2109:43
duendeSkid, same thing09:43
naliothlinner: sftp on port 2209:44
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duendeaftertaf, should 127.0.0.1 showup in ifconfig under the lo entry?09:44
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linnernalioth:  i must have misunderstood what he typed ... let me scroll up09:44
Skidduende: and you've /etc/init.d/networking restart 'ed already?09:44
Skidlo        Link encap:Local Loopback09:44
Skid          inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.009:44
Skid          inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host09:44
garyclinner the ip might have change on the linux box let me check09:44
duendeaha09:44
MadpilotPPCdo FF extensions not work on Linux PPC machines?09:44
kemikdont paste Skid09:44
thoreauputiclinner: no you didn't - he configured for port 2009:44
linnernalioth:  this is what he told me garyc linner I thought it was supposed to be port 2009:44
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linnerthoreauputic:  thanks. :)09:44
duendeSkid, lo only shows the inet6 line, not the inet addr:127.0.0.1 line09:44
linnergaryc:  ok09:44
thoreauputiclinner: which is odd ;)09:44
duendethat's the problem then09:44
naliothSkid: read the /topic please (re pasting)09:45
linnerthoreauputic:  hehehehe09:45
Skidyes yes, I thought i removed the crlf, but obv not :)09:45
kemikduende:  paste your /etc/network/interfaces on pastebin09:45
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duendekemik, k09:45
kemikduende:  and "ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1"09:45
aftertafduende:  yes it should....09:45
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indypendeSomeone have experienced som "connecion limit" problem whit ftp on NVU?09:46
thoreauputicgaryc: are you still running it on port 20 ?09:46
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duendekemik, http://pastebin.com/37548009:46
garyclinner I looked at vsftpd.conf and it is set to port 20  -  checking router port forwarding09:46
linnergaryc:  ok09:46
kemikduende:  and "sudo ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1"09:46
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duendeok, i did a ifconfig lo down and a 'ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1 up' and it works now09:47
duendeweird09:47
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duendewell, not weird that it works now, but weird that it loaded without the loop ip09:47
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kemikduende:  yeah, and your etc/network/interfaces looks correct-ish09:48
duende-ish?09:48
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kemikwell it looks correct09:48
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kemikduende:  if you have trouble again you know what todo09:48
kemikbut, there should be some better way to handle thi09:48
kemikthis09:48
duendekemik, i just recently switched from static ip to dhcp, but i noticed accross the last reboot that dhcp didn't start automatically and i had to run dhclient manually09:49
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duendemaybe that has something to do with it09:49
linnergaryc:  i checked again............. still no love09:49
kemikcould maybe be...09:49
ekimrebycAny advices against using ubuntu as a server platform?09:49
kemikbut i dont know really09:49
kemikgtg09:49
linnergaryc:  but that may not mean anything because gFTP keeps freezing09:49
duendeactually, nevermind09:49
duendei remember now, that was because my cable fell out of the nic :P09:49
kemik;)09:49
kemikhehe09:49
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duendeit's almost 5:20a here09:50
duendeheh09:50
bzimageekimrebyc, generally no.. but depends on the use of the server09:50
kemikekimrebyc:  not afaik... someone's said it makes a perfect server09:50
thoreauputiclinner: gftp appears to be distinctly unwell on breezy :/09:50
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thoreauputiclinner: judging by people's complaints...09:50
duendekemik, aftertaf, Skid: thanks for the help09:50
kemiknp09:50
linnerthoreauputic:  oh okay.... can you suggest temporary replacement?09:50
ekimrebycbzimage, kemik , i wanna use the easy install, and create my own add-on install system , to have a server up and running in under 60min.09:51
thoreauputiclinner: umm - I tend to use the cli for ftp - nautilus can do ftp though09:51
linnerthoreauputic:  what's nautilus?09:51
thoreauputiclinner: ftp://foo.bar.com in the location bar of the file manager (called nautilus)09:52
bzimageekimrebyc, you should be fine with ubuntu09:52
linnerthoreauputic:  oh okay09:52
ekimrebycoriginaly i made it with Gentoo09:52
schmitztdoes anyone use certificates stored on etokens or smartcards in evolution? I don't know how to configure that09:52
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thoreauputiclinner: the graphical gnome file manager09:52
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naliothlinner: kftpgrabber09:52
Skidsorted?09:52
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ekimrebycbut they just moved httpd.conf 3 times within the last 3 montsh09:52
naliothSkid: british for "fixed up"09:52
Skidnalioth: I'm british09:52
Skid:)09:52
bzimageekimrebyc, although i would go Debian09:52
linnernalioth:  oh ok........ thank you! :)09:52
SkidI was refering to duende as in are you sorted :P09:52
bzimage(the mother of ubuntu09:52
bzimage)09:52
ekimrebycbzimage, yea but debian dosnt have a click-installer09:53
bzimageso?09:53
ekimrebyci need that to be able to guide dumb users trough a install09:53
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naliothSkid: i'm Texan (thick headed lout am I)09:53
bzimageservers should be cli based.. not X09:53
duendeSkid, yip, everything seems to be working now09:53
Skidhehe09:53
Skidduende: what was the problem, I had to dash AFK for a few mins09:53
ekimrebycbzimage, i fully agree :)09:53
ekimrebycbut my costumers dosnt09:53
bzimagemake a web frontend then09:53
bzimage;)09:53
bzimage(only within lan)09:54
duendeSkid, not sure what caused it, but 127.0.0.1 wasn't listed in the lo entry in ifconfig, so i ran 'ifconfig lo down' and 'ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1 up' and it works now09:54
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kamstrupaftertaf, nalioth: I solved it... /etc/init.d/xprint HAS to be executable, or else X bails out.09:54
Skidah09:54
Skid:)09:54
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naliothkamstrup: good beans!09:54
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ekimrebycbzimage, actually i consider to disable the X interface in ubuntu once my server add-on installations is done09:54
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kamstrupnalioth: :-D09:54
ekimrebycbzimage, that would make sense09:54
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kamstrupcheers!09:54
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SlicerDiceranybody having issues with breezy and nvidia kernel not working?09:55
SlicerDicerI updated and now I cannot load nvidia drivers :/09:55
bzimageSlicerDicer, no.. working fine here09:55
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SlicerDicermodprobe nvidia says module nvidia not found :/09:56
SlicerDicerits not working at all :/09:56
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fekhi09:56
bzimagehi09:56
fekis mozilla-firefox broken?09:56
bzimageno09:56
fekdpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb (--unpack):09:56
fek trying to overwrite `/var/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions.d/00classic', which is also in package firefox09:56
fekdpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)09:57
fekdon't understand what broke09:57
SlicerDicerdont spam in here use the pastebin as in topic please09:57
fek+n09:57
naliothfek: it's broken if you use backports09:57
feki am using only ubuntu ports09:57
Belutz_zzzfet, if you use backports then it's broken09:57
fekerm, i hope so09:57
fekone moment09:57
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SlicerDiceranybody feel up to helping me figure out this nvidia problem?09:57
bzimagedo not use backports on breezy09:57
fekSlicerDicer: that was only 3 lines!09:57
SlicerDicerfek: so? its still spam09:58
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naliothfek: it's considered impolite to paste more than 209:58
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qt2brb.09:58
fekoh, i am using backports *ditsch*09:58
SlicerDicer-well crap... this is really suck...09:58
SlicerDicer-I have tried differnet kernels and what not this is not working with nvidia drivers09:58
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garyclinner  don't ask me why but my router is port forwarding port 21   how do I set vsftp to port 2109:59
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naliothgaryc: it should by default use 2109:59
kamstrupaahhh back in X :-D09:59
bzimagegaryc, the default ftp connection port is 2109:59
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linnergaryc:  i can guarantee you these guys will know a lot more about this topic than I10:00
SlicerDicer-ok I updated my computer and once I updated it nvidia driver seemed to vanish... I dont know what to do I try to modprobe it's gone... I tried to use a newer kernel and restricted modules and it still does not work I am totally lost as to what to do10:00
garyclinner  my vsftpd.conf  says port 20=yes10:00
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garyclinner Maybe I need to set it to no10:00
linnergaryc:  i understand it's supposed to be set, by default, to port 2110:01
linnergaryc:  knowing that, i would say "no"10:01
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linnergaryc:  i mean yes..............set it to "no"10:01
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aftertafduende:  no pb man ;)10:01
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garyclinner I commented out the port 20 = yes line and restarted ftp10:02
garyclinner try now10:02
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linnergaryc:  ok10:02
thoreauputichmm.. lostirc is kind of a claytons gui...10:02
SlicerDicer-does nobody know about nvidia drivers and able to help me?10:02
bzimagegaryc, 20 is needed... it's the data port10:02
bzimageftp uses 2 ports10:03
CaiN_SAsay from console i run : startx xterm, how do i let xterm auto start in fullscreen ?10:03
bzimage21 and 20 (by default)10:03
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bzimageport 21 = connection / authentication10:03
lostircCaiN_SA: --geometry I think (see man xterm)10:03
linnergaryc:  hold on a sec.............. gFTP is freezing again........... i have to download another FTP program10:04
bzimageport 20 = data transmitting/receiving10:04
CaiN_SAlol lostirc , but what if the app is not xterm ? say firefox ?10:04
CaiN_SAlol10:04
garycthereauputic  give my ftp a try  68.89.129.12910:04
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lostircCaiN_SA: well, most apps respect the -geometry flag10:04
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bzimagegaryc, that wont work..10:05
bzimage(i guess)10:05
SlicerDicer-nvidia drivers? help? anybody? I will type out the problem when I find somebody who is willing to help me10:05
garycbzimage  I better put it back the way it was10:05
thoreauputicgaryc: same10:05
feknalioth: now i got the mozilla-firefox packages from security.ubuntu,com and it's still broken10:06
ekimrebycis it posible to install ubuntu on two mirror-raided harddisks?10:06
ekimrebycJust give me yes or no...i dont need the guide :)10:06
naliothekimrebyc: yes it is10:06
ekimrebycthank you10:06
garycbzimage  the router automaticaly sets up port 21 as the ftp port  and it worked on wu-ftpd10:06
naliothfek: "sudo apt-get -f install"10:06
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thoreauputicfek: killall firefox.bin might help10:07
fekuarghs10:07
fekwhy is this proces srunning!?10:07
kamstrupDoes anybody have experience with Voodoo Banshee cards vs. DRI ?10:07
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SlicerDicer-kamstrup, good luck I am having a hard time getting help with a very common nvidia driver :P10:08
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aftertafSlicerDicer-:  type away... i have nvidia happiness on my pc ;)10:08
fekgot it10:08
fekthanks thoreauputic10:08
SlicerDicer-aftertaf, I updated my system and nvidia driver has vanished as in the module10:08
SlicerDicer-aftertaf, I modprobe it and its not there10:09
thoreauputicfek: aha!10:09
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thoreauputicfek: so it's OK now?10:09
fekyes10:09
thoreauputic:)10:09
feki did i complete apt-get install --reinstall over the packages10:09
SlicerDicer-aftertaf, I have installed newer versions of nvidia modules that depended on new kernels and still no dice10:09
fekthoreauputic: but still confusing, why this process was running10:09
SlicerDicer-aftertaf, I really dont know what to do I am getting pretty damn frustrated here... its not easy when things go crazy lol10:10
aftertafSlicerDicer-:  breezy or hoary?10:10
SlicerDicer-aftertaf, breezy10:10
thoreauputicfek: left overs from previous attempts I guess10:10
aftertafSlicerDicer-:  ok. did you have the nvidia ubutu package or the NVIDIA.run driver?10:10
bzimagegaryc, is your router a linux box?10:10
SlicerDicer-aftertaf, ubuntu packages10:11
SlicerDicer-aftertaf, when I try to do it myself the system explodes10:11
garycbzimage  no it is an sbc/dsl router10:11
SlicerDicer-aftertaf, well look where I am I cant be much worse than now though haha10:11
bzimagehmm...10:11
garycbzimage  now vsftpd is not restarting10:12
aftertafSlicerDicer-:  have you ever used the nvidia.run official drivers?10:12
SlicerDicer-aftertaf, the last update seemed to break 32bit support for linux native games as opengl libs could not be found... now its totally broken10:12
SlicerDicer-aftertaf, of course I have10:12
garycbzimage  which one of these listen statements should be set to yes10:12
aftertafSlicerDicer-:  if so, run it again with --uninstall as an option10:12
SlicerDicer-aftertaf, not on ubuntu though cause everytime I did they blow up in my face10:12
bzimagegaryc, the default should be ok10:12
SlicerDicer-aftertaf, I havent used the nvidia drivers from nvidia I used the ubuntu ones so that does not apply10:13
linnergaryc:  i'm very sorry... but i need to do some research before i get another ftp client........ i'll be happy to help you again once i get a new client....gftp isn't working well on my system10:13
bzimageis you box onwich vsftpd runs a dedicated box? or a workstation10:13
SlicerDicer-aftertaf, may I private message you please?10:14
aftertafyep no pb...10:14
bzimageif it is a dedicated box, i would go for a DMZ solution.10:14
garyclinner  Thanks sir  you are awesome10:14
linnergaryc:  no problem............ and by the way, I'm a girl ;)10:15
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thoreauputiclinner: did you try using nautilus? It does a reasonable job for basic ftp10:15
thoreauputicvery basic...10:16
linnerthoreauputic:  I really don't know what nautilus is...10:16
bzimageor the plain ftp command10:16
bzimage;)10:16
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ekimrebycthoreauputic, yea unless you have folders with numeric names :)10:16
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bzimagelinner, nautilus is the filemanager for Gnome10:16
thoreauputiclinner: it's the thing you see when you open up you home dir :)10:16
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linneroh okay10:16
thoreauputicor "computer" etc10:16
bzimagekonqueror is the same thing on KDE10:17
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thoreauputiclinner: ctrl-l to get a location input field10:17
linnerthoreauputic:  I don't get an "address" line with that10:17
pablo_hi, someone here use xawtv?10:17
linnerthoreauputic:  oh oh oh cool10:17
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linnerok10:17
thoreauputiclinner: I anticipated... :)10:17
linnerthoreauputic:  you're good man :)10:17
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Mizutsukiis the new ubuntu preview ready enough for a complete newb to go at it, or are there still lots of errors?10:17
duendeMizutsuki, works well for me10:18
naliothMizutsuki: you only have 10 days to wait for the final10:18
bzimageMizutsuki, the preview version is ok10:18
thoreauputiclinner: little do you know .... <evil grin>10:18
duendeboth in server/client deployments10:18
crimsunpreview+daily updates should work fine.10:18
garyclinner  Why thank-ye Mam10:18
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Guyver3how do I go from windows xp to ubuntu, without dual boot?10:18
duendeyes, you heard me, i'm using breezy for my server :)10:18
linnerthoreauputic: y)10:18
linnercrap10:18
linnerthoreauputic:  you crack me up10:18
Mizutsukiok, thanks10:18
linnergaryc:  np :)10:18
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duendeColonelKernel, your nick hurts my head10:19
duendei say it out loud and get confused10:19
aftertaflool duende10:19
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bzimageGuyver3, well to really leave windows.. you should use the cd of ubuntu and fire it up.. then partition your drive(s) so it only uses Linux.. then install10:19
bzimage;)10:19
maxbernThere were no decoders found to handle the stream in file "file:///home/maxbern/Downloads/Lito%20Camo%20-%20Wowowee.mp3", you might need to install the corresponding plugins10:19
MadpilotPPCduende, English is a wonderful language, isn't it? ;)10:19
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duendeMadpilotPPC, i'm glad it's my first language10:20
maxbernwhat decodes do i need to install?10:20
MadpilotPPC!tell maxbern about mp310:20
Guyver3are you talking about the live cd?10:20
aftertafis nvidia drivers stuff broken in breezy for 64bit?10:20
maxbernGuyver3, nope on the filesystem copied from windows10:20
bzimageGuyver3, the normal cd10:21
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Guyver3ok10:21
IceDC571wow.. i just discovered sherlock today, never knew it existed10:21
bzimageguerby, i would go for breezy preview cd10:21
maxbernhow do i do that Guyver310:21
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bzimageIceDC571, that guy is dead10:22
bzimage;)10:22
Guyver3are you asking me something that you already know maxbern?10:22
schmitztdoes anyone have experiences with openct? I don't know how to mount my etoken10:22
matrixquestion, where do the themes install ?10:22
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bzimagematrix, which themes10:23
bzimage?10:23
matrixblackbox10:23
bzimage(gdm, gnome etc etc)10:23
bzimageok..10:23
bzimagedunno.. don't use it10:23
bzimage(i)10:23
IceDC571how is sherlock dead?10:23
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matrixwhat about extra gnome themes?10:23
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IceDC571oh wait im stupid10:23
bzimagedunno either.. i'm using kde10:23
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IceDC571i thought i was in the os x channel10:23
Guyver3I've never been on linux before. How would I install my vid card, sound card, etc drivers?10:23
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bzimageIceDC571, hehehe, but still that Holmes dude is dead10:24
bzimage;)10:24
maxbernGuyver3, i did not know how do to it tell me10:24
meerguys anybody plss help me with my eth0 plsss10:24
MadpilotPPCGuyver3, sound card should be detected on install; vid card needs drivers, usually10:24
Guyver3do I have to use some program called WINE to emulate a windows app?10:24
bzimagemeer, what's the problem10:24
bzimage(that way we can offer help)10:24
_mindspin;-)10:24
thoreauputicbzimage: strictly speaking the "Holmes dude" never existed10:25
bzimagethoreauputic, i know...10:25
bzimage;)10:25
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thoreauputic:D10:25
bzimagebut does IceDC571 know that?10:25
bzimage:P10:25
naliothIceDC571: try ##apple10:25
thoreauputiche does now :)10:25
meermy eth0 card worked really fine but after installing few packages and KDE last night i jus switched off and slept but when i tried login today its no more working10:25
IceDC571yeah i know now..10:25
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meerthanks bzimage10:25
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IceDC571i want to get breezy on my ibook, does airport wireless work at all?10:26
thoreauputicIceDC571: google Arthur Conan-Doyle  ;)10:26
_mindspinmeer: what do you get when you type ifconfig on commandline?10:26
meerthe led in eth0 also is not lit.. so now am using a usb card jus to log in10:26
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meerand at the start up system stays for a long time trying to configure network interfaces10:27
thoreauputicIceDC571: no - complain to theBroadcom people10:27
ompaulmornin thoreauputic :)10:27
thoreauputicIceDC571: unless its not Airport Extreme..10:27
_mindspinmeer: what do you get when you type ifconfig on commandline?10:27
thoreauputichi ompaul :)10:27
naliothIceDC571: choose a USB wifi stick wisely, cuz broadcom continues to suck10:28
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ompaulnalioth: welcome back10:28
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IceDC571nalioth: any reccomendations?10:28
linner:(10:28
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fluor_how do i run 32bit programs on 64-bit ubuntu? s there another way than chroot?  first i have to log in, then su, then sudo bash to root, then chroot /chroot10:28
SkywindDoes anyone know how to modify the color of screen that displayed before gnome-splash(after gdm login)?  thx~10:28
thoreauputiclinner: some of the Broadcom stuff works on i386 with ndiswrapper I believe10:29
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garycthereauputic  give my ftp a try  68.89.129.12910:29
linnerthough i have a Turion64.... i had to use the i386 install... we'll see10:29
thoreauputicgaryc: OK10:29
IceDC571how bout bluetooth, does that work on breezy?10:29
meerdo u wan me to past the stuff here10:29
bzimagefluor_, doing 64bit installs is allways a dumb thing if you tent to use non 64bit stuff...10:29
naliothIceDC571: netgear ma111 b model10:29
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linnergaryc:  if you type just a few characters and then "tab" it will auto complete the nick for you10:30
naliothmeer: no do not paste here10:30
meerits my first time using this irc10:30
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naliothmeer: read the /topic about pasting10:30
_mindspinno, try pastebin or #flood10:30
garyclinner what do you mean10:30
fluor_bzimage: it's a gameserver (it's 32-bit) but some ADDONS i have use 64-bit!  so i need 64bit10:30
ompaul!tell meer about pastebin10:30
kemikga<TAB>10:30
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linnergaryc:  when you're typing to someone specific in the channel, begin your post with the first few names and then hit the tab button10:30
linnerit will automatically complete that person's nickname for you10:31
houpyhello everybody10:31
garyclinner, oh you mean  lin..  then tab10:31
kemiks/names/letters linner  ;)10:31
bzimagefluor_, recompile the 32 bit thing..10:31
linnergaryc:  it avoids mistyping the name's spelling10:31
linnergaryc:  yes10:31
linner:)10:31
Guyver3hey how would I burn a .gi file?10:31
thoreauputicgaryc: "delaying before reconnect" etc10:31
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kemikGuyver3:  .gi ? never heard of.. supposed to be what?10:31
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Guyver3I only know 1 program that does and it's a windows program called "sonic record now"10:31
fluor_bzimage: its a binary. it's counter-strike10:31
Guyver3global image10:32
Lickeranyone know how to add scripts in IRC?10:32
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linnerwb aftertaf10:32
Guyver3umm something with10:32
kemikfluor_:  i'd recommend you to use "sudo -i" instead of "sudo bash"10:33
Guyver3.  /load command10:33
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meerthanks for pastebin10:33
ompaulmeer: use it well10:33
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somonehelo, someone avilble10:34
fluor_bzimage: it's a gameserver (it's 32-bit) but some ADDONS i have use 64-bit!  so i need 64bit. i need other admins to also connect, using their own ssh account. i do not want to give them root10:34
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Ngfluor_: have a look at dchroot10:34
somonecan somone help (about installing ubuntu) ?10:35
Guyver3oh yeah I know /load -rs locationof.mrcfile should work for adding scripts on irc10:35
Ngsomone: ask your question, if someone can answer, they will10:35
kemiksomone:  just ask your *real* question10:35
elkbuntusomone: you asking yourself?10:35
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somoneok10:36
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meer_mindspin: can u plss help me out with it..10:36
somonei understand the ubuntu need about 3gb freespace, but when i tray to instal, it's usk's for et list 9GB?10:36
Guyver3umm I've never tried linux before and I'm just wondering if I'm supposed to switch ntfs into something else before installing linux :S?10:37
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_mindspinmeer: first i need to know the url of pastebin (where you pasted the result)10:37
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makkkGuyver3, FAT would be much better10:37
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meerhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/258010:37
makkkwith ntfs, its hard to write to it (if not impossible)10:37
meerthnks10:38
niahhi10:38
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KnelixQuestion: How I "properly" (as opposed to "improperly") terminate a process (like folding@home) running in the terminal?10:38
Guyver3but with FAT it won't handle files bigger than 4 gb10:38
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somonei understand the ubuntu need about 3gb freespace, but when i tray to instal, it's usk's for et list 9GB??10:38
makkkGuyver3, do you want to dual boot?10:38
tommi^Guyver3: if you are really going to make the switch, I suggest that you do backup of all your files and then just overwrite everything on your harddrive so that you are installing ext310:38
somonei use FAT3210:38
naliothKnelix: the polite way for a terminal app is "q" or "ctrl-c"10:38
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_mindspinmeer: eth1 is the usb device?10:39
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Knelixnalioth: Okay. Thanks.10:39
meeryeah10:39
meerthats what i am using now10:39
meerthe other one doesnt work at all10:39
Guyver3ext3 ok I'll keep that in mind10:39
makkksomone, does that include every single package possible?10:39
somonecan someone help in a privert channel (i cant understand if you are speeking with me or not) :}10:40
kemikGuyver3:  only use FAT if you gonna dualboot10:40
kemikGuyver3:  ext3 for "linux"10:40
garycthereauputic  I took out vsftp and put in proftp now give my ftp a try  68.89.129.12910:40
Guyver3no I'm planning for single boot10:40
makkkthat seems like way too much space10:40
_mindspinyou are sure, that eth0 fits into the socket? (because you mentioned there is no LED light)10:40
kemikGuyver3:  go for ext then10:40
kemikno reason using a crappy FS such as Fat/Fat3210:40
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kemikgtg10:40
Guyver3so no one here know any program that burns .gi images?10:41
thoreauputicgaryc: hey - tab complete with thore <tab> - I nearly missed that one :)10:41
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tommi^Guyver3: yeah, ext3 installs as default with ubuntu and pretty much with every linux distro. Just remember to do backups and check that they are valid.10:41
meer_mindspin: if eth0 works fine there is a led which lights with connectivity but now its not lighting also. but whn i log in windows its working10:41
_mindspinic10:41
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_mindspinwhat chipset is it?10:41
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matrixwhats the default font size ?10:41
_mindspini.e. which network card10:41
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garycthoreauputic, oooh  I have been misspelling your name all this time10:42
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tommi^Guyver3: what are .gi images?10:42
meeroops how to check that, which networkl card10:42
thoreauputicgaryc: login failed this time - anonymous ?10:42
garycthoreauputic, I put in proftp but i dont know if it does anonymous10:42
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thoreauputicah10:42
naliothgaryc: check your config10:42
_mindspinopen the box and have a look? ;-)10:42
thoreauputicwell it tried :)10:42
garycthoreauputic, try agora  and  agoramin10:43
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thoreauputicgaryc: agoramin as pass?10:43
garycthoreauputic, yes10:43
meerits realtec semiconductor. a builtin card10:43
somonecan someone help me pleez?10:43
thoreauputick10:43
_mindspinrealtec should work fine10:43
Guyver3it's a stupid format that some pirated games use, it's kinda new stands for global images made by sonic Record Now on the windows platform10:43
somoneme?10:43
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meeryeah it worked very fine but now not working10:43
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garycthoreauputic, what directories does it allow you to see10:44
meerlast night when i shutdown also it was working but today it didnt10:44
elkbuntudoes anyone know a fix for ubuntu not seeing/mounting IDE floppy drives?10:44
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thoreauputicgaryc: Login failed: 530 Login incorrect10:44
meerpreviously also this happened so i jus installed ubuntu again. i guess thats not a solutioin10:44
_mindspintry sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart10:44
elkbuntuin hoary10:44
meer:)10:44
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thoreauputicgaryc: hang on I'll retry10:44
Guyver3http://www.ubuntuguide.org/ maybe this might help elkbuntu10:44
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garycthoreauputic, should be  agora   then   agoramin10:45
thoreauputicyup10:45
meeri think all these happens during the booting up thing of the base10:45
garycthoreauputic, what directories does it allow you to see10:45
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thoreauputicgaryc: wait please10:45
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meerif i use that command will i loose this connection now10:45
meer?10:45
tommi^elkbuntu: how do you not see them? Nautilus doesn't display them in computer: ?10:46
duendequick question, is ubuntu's version numbering based on year.month ?10:46
_mindspinmeer: whats in /etc/network/ifaces ?10:46
Seveas!tell Guyver3 about ubuntuguide10:46
elkbuntutommi^,  just wont mount10:46
_mindspininterfaces10:46
elkbuntutommi^, i can see it in the 'my computer' thing10:46
garyclinner, I still have a private open to you10:46
somoneenyone10:46
thoreauputicgaryc: /home/agora  <--- working10:47
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linnergaryc:  beg your pardon?10:47
tommi^elkbuntu: what error message you get when trying to mount?10:47
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garyclinner, do you want me to close it10:47
makkksomone, i messaged you10:47
linnergaryc:  yes please10:47
Guyver3WINE is a linux program that emulates windows programs right?10:47
naliothsomone: ask a question. "anyone?" is very non productive10:47
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linnergaryc:  i wont' be able to access it for you tonight10:47
julohi10:47
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SeveasGuyver3, it implements parts of the windows api10:47
Seveasit mulates nohing10:47
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Seveasand my keyboard misses keys apparently :)10:48
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thoreauputicgaryc: I can see the home dir including dot files etc10:48
tommi^Guyver3: Wine Isn't a Windows Emulator = WINE10:48
Guyver3heh10:48
_eyezwhat program can I use insted of eMule?10:48
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garyclinner, that ok  i am closing the10:48
juloCould anyone tell me why flash and java plugins aren't installed by default in Ubuntu, even though they can be legally distributed ?10:48
somonewhen i tray to instal, it's usk's for et list 9GB??10:48
linnergaryc:  understood10:48
somonewhay so much GB?10:48
concept10julo, they cant be legally distributed10:48
meermindspin: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/258110:48
thoreauputicgaryc: seems to be working fine10:48
elkbuntuomfg *note to self* do not just reach over to linux box and try insert a floppy, there's a floppy-sized gap just above the CD drive it can slip into10:48
elkbuntualmost lost the floppy into the depths of the box lol10:49
somoneis ubuntu nned 9GB of freespace?10:49
garycthoreauputic, does it let you up directory and can you see clemire or cydanderwon10:49
makkksomone, is that the size of the partition?10:49
elkbuntusomone no10:49
naliothelkbuntu: horrors. you might have to open it and vacuum it out10:49
garycthoreauputic, does it let you up directory and can you see clemire or cydanderson10:49
thoreauputicgaryc: hang on10:49
makkksomone, ubuntu is not that large10:49
naliothsomone: only if you install the WHOLE thing10:49
_mindspinmeer: you have dhcp running?10:49
elkbuntunalioth, surprisingly it's quite clean. i only built it recently10:49
thoreauputicgaryc: yup10:49
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somoneubuntu install that i need et list 9GB, & wont let me select lower, whay?10:50
makkknalioth, would it make 9GBs?10:50
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somonetell*10:50
garycthoreauputic, also a garyc dir10:50
thoreauputicgaryc: 6 dirs including ftp10:50
meerthat is for the network? i am using dhcp configuration for eth110:50
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naliothmakkk: if you installed all of uni and multi, yes10:50
meeris it that dhcp?10:50
thoreauputicyes I can see that - I'll try vd10:50
thoreauputichah10:50
thoreauputic*cd10:50
garycthoreauputic, I wonder if proftp can limit this10:50
_mindspinyou have the nics bound to dhcp10:50
nalioththoreauputic: is there something you're not telling us? ;)10:51
thoreauputicgaryc: I'm in your home dir! mwuhahahaha!10:51
makkksomone, are you sure that this is not simply the size of the partition that ubuntu will be installed to?10:51
juloconcept10: they are, according to Reinhard Tartler on ubuntu-devel mailing list...10:51
meer_mindspin: oops cant undertand that10:51
elkbuntutommi^, 'Unable to mount the volume. There is probably no media in the device.' then show more details reveals 'mount: /dev/fd0 is not a valid block device'10:51
garycthoreauputic, i know vsftpd claims it can restrict people to only their own home dir10:51
thoreauputicgaryc: don't worry, I promise not to tell ;))10:51
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somonebut i'm not askd how meny expentions do i wish to install, i shuse the deafolt settings...10:52
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somonei chuse *10:52
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somonei just press Enter & folow the instructions.10:52
garycthoreauputic, try to make dir  or upload  I think it will tell you that you don't have permission10:52
thoreauputicgaryc: sorry I logged out :(10:53
thoreauputicgaryc: I expect you are right10:53
garycthoreauputic, do you mind trying it10:53
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somone?10:53
makkksomone, i've installed the default several times, its not that large10:53
_mindspin:meer do you see the priv.msg?10:54
garycyou should be able to write to agora  and  make dir there only10:54
makkkare you installing the english verions?10:54
makkkversion10:54
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somoneok, then i will tray agin... and comback to say how did it go10:54
somonei'm using 5.1010:54
KnelixWell guys-- I think it's (past) time to call it quits for tonight. Thanks for all your help, as usual. 'night. :-)10:54
AnkhWeaselWell, that was a fun day.10:54
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AnkhWeaselHad to reinstall both Windows and Ubuntu. >.>10:54
elkbuntuubuntuguide.org only lists the word 'floppy' once :|10:55
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makkkhm... I can only speak for 5.04, but still 5.10 should not be that large, that's unreasonable10:55
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bzimageelkbuntu, in 2005 that's common10:55
bzimage:P10:55
somonethat's what i was thinking, I'll give it another go.10:55
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somonebye for now, and ty for the help.10:55
elkbuntuyes bzimage ... but it helps not in finding how to make an IDE floppy drive mount :|10:55
makkknp10:55
bzimageelkbuntu, ubuntuguide is not recommended10:56
bzimage(in the first place)10:56
AnkhWeaselWhyever not?10:56
elkbuntubzimage, at times it is quite useful10:56
elkbuntubzimage, such as to suggest firewall software10:57
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elkbuntubzimage etc10:57
thoreauputicgaryc: I can upload to agora10:57
AnkhWeaselSure, a bunch of it's outdated...10:57
bzimageelkbuntu, wel.. suggestion of firewall software? --> search with synaptic10:57
bzimageread the discriptions.. and install10:57
bzimage:P10:57
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trixwhere is the terminal in kubuntu desktop?10:58
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elkbuntubzimage, just because you find something with synaptic, doesnt mean it's good. by reading resources such as ubuntuguide, you find what the popular ones are10:58
trixwhere is the terminal in kubuntu desktop?10:58
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bzimagetrix: utility---> terminal10:58
thoreauputicgaryc: I can also upload to garyc, unfortunately :( I can delete as well10:58
bzimagetrix: run command ----> konsole10:59
elkbuntubzimage as far as i know, synaptic doesnt give human opinion10:59
thoreauputicgaryc: I uploaded and then deleted10:59
trixtnx10:59
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trixwhat is differnt between ubuntu and kubuntu?10:59
bzimageelkbuntu, well.. not quite correct.. it's the opinion of the creator of ubuntuguide10:59
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bzimagenot wich is the most popular11:00
bzimage;)11:00
thoreauputicgaryc: if you look in garyc you will see a thoreauputic directory, too11:00
bzimagetrix, ubuntu uses Gnome desktop as default.. where Kubuntu uses KDE as default..11:00
bzimagetrix, but from within ubuntu, one could install KDE too11:00
bzimage:)11:01
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thoreauputicgaryc: looks like you need more configuration...11:01
naliothbzimage: not ubuntu from within kubuntu?11:01
bzimagenalioth, well.. yeah sure...11:01
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trixi see11:01
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bzimageit's both ways11:01
bzimage:)11:01
bzimagerepos are repos11:01
bzimagehehe11:01
trixit is possible to install online games like ragnarok here?11:02
bzimagetrix, so it doesn't matter really...11:02
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bzimagetrix, don't know that game.. but i am confident you can11:02
bzimage:)11:02
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bzimagewb linner11:04
linnerbzimage:  why thank you! :)11:04
bzimage:)11:05
meeranybody plss how to reinstall the network driver11:05
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_mindspinmeer: did you edit the /etc/networking/interfaces file as I told you?11:06
ladyfeihi11:06
ladyfeiasl polz11:06
ladyfeiserx11:06
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naliothladyfei: not in here, please. in #ubuntu-offtopic11:06
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Lickeranyone know how to make a IRC script to counter Slaps etc?11:08
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bzimageLicker, google and find11:08
bzimage:)11:08
thoreauputicok time to go...11:08
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Lickerwhat would i lok up? IRC scripts?11:08
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bzimageLicker, such queries11:09
bzimageyeah11:09
naliothLicker: start at your clients homepage11:09
bzimageirc + slaps +script or something11:09
fredforfaenanyone here that has experience with burning dvd's over 6X?11:10
bzimagenalioth, good one :)11:10
meeranybody plss how to reinstall the network driver11:10
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baroslis there any program that can capture xvideo output?11:11
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Ngbarosl: for a screenshot? or you actually want to capture that video data?11:11
concept10I love the way gnome 2.12 flashes the application on the taskbar but doesnt bring it into focus11:12
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baroslNg, for a screenshot. i want to capture mplayer of the desktop not using vo=x1111:12
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Ngbarosl: you probably want to point a camera at your monitor then ;/11:13
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baroslNg, oops11:13
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bobothelp! anyone used epson lx300 printer in ubuntu? Where can we find a driver?11:15
weijie90hi11:15
weijie90http://www.linux-printing.com11:15
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cefif only there was some useful graphical snmp utils.. spose I'll just have to write one (or get someone to write one).. *sigh*11:16
meerkatheh, lx300 ... blast from the past ;)11:17
weijie90bobot: ops, its www.linuxprinting.com11:17
ompaulbobot, there are many docs on google I think you choose 24 pin and it works11:18
trixwhat is wine?11:18
linnertrix:  wine stands for windows emulator11:18
ompaulbobot, it is a 24 pin dot matrix if I recall correctly11:18
bobotweijie90: thanks! i'll try it..11:18
linnertrix:  it will run a limited amt of windows based programs11:18
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weijie90no its "wine is not an emulator"11:18
catfoxlinner, stande for: wine is not an emulater11:18
weijie90like "gnu's not unix"11:18
linnerit's not?????11:19
bzimagehehehe11:19
ompaulweijie90, are you sure about gnu?11:19
linnerthat's what i was told11:19
weijie90ya its not11:19
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linnerokey dokey11:19
weijie90u were bluffed... its a myth11:19
catfoxits a re-implementation of the windows api11:19
bobotompaul: i'll tyr it11:19
weijie90an emulator would work better11:19
ChousukeWINE is actually ambiguous11:19
bzimageWINE gets you drunk11:19
bzimage:)11:19
Chousukeweijie90: but it would be slower :P11:19
linneroh... i thought WIN stood for windows and E stood for emulator... that's how it was explained to me11:20
Chousukeand wine does do some emulation.11:20
weijie90but program support is complete11:20
weijie90haha... nice one11:20
linnertrix:  i hope we're not confusing you more with our banter11:20
Chousukelinner: Then it would be WinE11:20
Chousukeor WE.11:20
linnerChousuke:  symantics11:20
Chousuke:P11:20
ChousukeWE are the borg.11:20
bzimageChousuke, or MsE (Microsoft Emulator)11:21
bobotweijie90: its www.linuxprinting.org11:21
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weijie90oh sorry11:21
linnertrix:  bottom line it runs a very limited amount of windows programs11:21
catfoxwhich mp3 player would you recommend for linux, anyone?11:21
weijie90rythmbox11:21
catfoxsorry, i meant hardware player11:21
Chousukebzimage: Nah11:21
Chousukeit doesn't emulate an Evil Gian Corporation (TM)11:22
ChousukeGiant*11:22
ompaulbobot, go for it, tell us how you get on, maybe even write it up on the website and we get the bot to point to it11:22
weijie90any one... as long as it has a normal usb flash drive11:22
renjiiso anyone want to tell me whats wrong with w32 codecs? i got xine/w32 codecs installed and none of the codecs seem to work-11:22
bzimagelinner, although.. if i read the mission statement on codeweavers.. wine should support all standard windows apps soon11:22
weijie90ubuntu should be able to detect it plug-and-play11:22
naliothrenjii: what platform are you running them on?11:22
linnerbzimage:  great..... so what would be the difference then between wine and crossover office?11:22
catfoxmight get an iaudio m1011:22
naliothlinner: xover office has support attached11:23
bzimagelinner, crossover is Wine with some addons.. (for configuring it, and installing software on it)11:23
Chousukecrossover is cool.11:23
weijie90but u have to pay to use it.11:23
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Chousukeyeh.11:23
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bzimageyep.. but not expensive though.. 35 dollar11:23
linnerthank you :)11:23
weijie90haha....11:23
meerkatlinner: crossover makes wine a little more user friendly ...11:23
Chousukea little :P11:24
bzimagewww.codeweavers.com -> crossover11:24
bzimage:)11:24
linneroh okay11:24
_mindspindoes anyone here use crossover with lotus organizer ?11:24
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ompaulwow a scrolling piece of text in web browser had my cpu up at 100%11:24
linnerhehehhe11:24
ChousukeIt doesn't necessarily support as many programs though.11:24
Chousukeespecially games.11:24
weijie90some people dont have a credit card... and 35 US dollars is like 50 singapore dollars... not what a student like me can afford11:24
bzimagefor gaming use cedega11:24
linnerthirty five bucks is cheap to be able to not have to dual boot11:24
Chousukebut for the programs it supports, it supports them better than wine.11:24
renjiinalioth - ah, thats the problem....am helping someone run it on a standalone machine... on ubuntu of course.11:24
weijie90cedega costs too11:24
Chousukebzimage: Not necessarily.11:24
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ChousukeDepends on which games you play.11:25
bzimageChousuke, no.. your right, smartass ;)11:25
naliothrenjii: amd64, ppc, or x86?11:25
ChousukeOlder games work fine with wine.11:25
onkarshindeDoes ATI binary driver supports ATI Radeon 7000?11:25
Chousukeno need.11:25
renjiid'oh. x8611:25
bzimageChousuke, true......11:25
Chousukeyou don't need the binary drivers.11:25
onkarshindeDo i need something else to take advantage of ATI 700?11:25
Chousukeyou already have 3d11:25
Chousukeno.11:25
trixlinner: how can i install wine?11:25
linnertrix:  have you used synaptic before?11:26
onkarshindeChousuke: My glxgears output shows 286FPS11:26
weijie90search google to get to its homepage11:26
ColonelKernelanyone familiar with xmame?11:26
Chousukeonkarshinde: are you using the radeon driver on X?11:26
bzimagetrix: wich distro?11:26
weijie90go to the documentation and follow its instructions11:26
Chousukeit has 3d support. :)11:26
bzimagelols.. sorry.. ubuntu.. my bad.. (so many linux channels open)11:26
linnertrix:  i would definitely go to their web site and find out if your program is supported first....11:26
cefthere are also things like vmware or Win4Lin Pro.. but they all cost11:26
onkarshindeChousuke: I havern't installed any extra package yet. I just added this card to my existing system and did a dpkg-reconfigure11:27
weijie90qemu with the acceleration module is free11:27
bzimagecef, but there are also free ones.. like qemu11:27
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linnertrix:  google codeweavers11:27
Chousukeonkarshinde: you need none.11:27
cefweijie90: very true..11:27
Chousukeonkarshinde: just select the radeon driver for X11:27
bzimagetrix: www.codeweavers.com11:27
cefstill from what I've seen, very slow11:27
linnerbzimage:  exactly11:27
bzimagetrix: www.winehq.com11:27
onkarshindeChousuke: Then why 286 FPS?11:27
ChousukeDunno.11:27
onkarshindeI mean output of glxgears11:28
weijie90it works ok too.. im using it to install windoze xp,, but its slow11:28
onkarshindeAnyone else specilized in ATI Radeon?11:28
ChousukeMaybe the card just sucks.11:28
bzimageATI and linux are NO match11:28
Chousukebzimage: wrong.11:28
bzimageRIGHT11:28
bzimage:)11:28
Chousukebzimage: older atis work11:28
Chousukehe has a 7000 :P11:28
bzimagehmm...11:28
bzimagedang!11:28
bzimage:P11:28
meerkatbest thing is just to leave all the just MS apps behind and moveover ....11:29
Chousukesomething's just funky with his config.11:29
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onkarshindeIs Radeon 7000 an old card?11:29
weijie90yes11:29
Chousukeanything pre-9500 is11:29
cefmeerkat: unfortunately sometimes you don't have that option11:29
bzimageoh well.. i dislike ati on linux.. driver is crappy11:29
bzimagenvidia rules11:29
onkarshindeDo I need to add to xorg.conf?11:29
bzimagegood drives11:29
Chousukeand soon there'll be support for r300 too!11:29
bzimage+r11:29
meerkatcef: true.11:29
cefbzimage: now that they've gotten most of the bugs and stack faults out of them *grin*11:30
Chousukewhich means radeons up to 9800 and some x??? too11:30
bzimagecef, ?11:30
Kuoliowow, this is great!11:30
bzimagenvidia just works11:30
Kuoliojust updated my breezy, and powernowd started to work!11:30
bzimageati is trial and error11:30
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larsrohdinHi, is anyone here good at xfce4? the #xfce was kind of dead...11:31
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weijie90xfce?11:31
cefbzimage: before about 2.6.8, they had a huge amount of stack overrun issues in the nvidia driver.. 4k stacks in the kernel got nvidia off their butts11:31
weijie90i hated it11:31
trixwhat is breezy?11:31
Chousukexfce4 is wonderful11:31
weijie90its the latest version of ubuntu11:31
onkarshinde!breezy11:31
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade11:31
bzimagecef, ooh yeah.. your correct11:31
weijie90but its not official11:31
larsrohdinyeah I really like it11:31
bzimagebut nowadays it works good11:31
weijie90no desktop icons in xfce!11:32
larsrohdinis it possible to make aliases for commands in xfrun? Like an alias in .bashrc?11:32
cefbreezy works fine fo rme now11:32
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bzimagelarsrohdin, sure11:32
larsrohdinbzimage, how then?11:32
bzimagehaha.. good one11:32
bzimage:)11:32
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weijie90and xfce doesnt have enough toolbar icons11:33
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larsrohdinaaawwww11:33
henkhow do i tell gdeslets to start when i log in? of any program for that matter11:33
weijie90hi henk11:33
bzimagelarsrohdin, it should be possible11:33
henkhi weijie9011:34
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bzimageNog een Nederlander11:34
bzimage:)11:34
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bzimagehallo Henk11:34
bzimage:)11:34
weijie90hi boxerboy2911:34
cefbzimage: 2.6.12 and the nvidia driver seems a very stable combo so far11:34
weijie90hi twibbler11:34
henkhehe tja linux is hot in nl11:34
naliothhenk: System > preferences > sessions11:34
boxerboy29hi weijie9011:34
twibblerweijie90: morning .....11:34
bzimagecef, yep11:34
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henknalioth, ah nice thnx11:35
nightswim?? acroread11:35
nightswimacroread?11:35
nightswimhow does that bot work again11:35
nightswim?acroread11:35
bzimage!acroread11:36
ubotufrom memory, acroread is wget http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/deb/adobereader-enu_7.0.1-2_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i adobereader-enu_7.0.1-2_i386.deb11:36
bzimagethere11:36
bzimage:)11:36
nightswimaah!11:36
weijie90im installing windows xp  in qemu... im seeing messages like "Windows XP helps make sure your computer "just works""... how ironic...11:36
nightswimthanks11:36
bzimagenp11:36
bobotompaul: thanks ompaul, but i'm not yet good in linux... but i'l try though. i din't make it with 24 pins...11:36
twibblerweijie90: isnt that a contradiction in terms ....11:36
weijie90yup11:36
weijie90lol11:36
bzimagetwibbler, lol11:37
nightswimnow let's hope that link will work11:37
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boxerboy29just works=lowest standard???????????11:37
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Seveas!forget !brownie1711:37
ubotuSeveas: i forgot !brownie1711:37
weijie90nice one11:37
nightswimit seems to be dead from over here11:37
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weijie90whats the most popular form of broadband modems? (USB/cable/network/etc?)11:39
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bzimageweijie90, depends on the country11:39
nightswimdoes someone in here perhaps have that file :>11:39
bzimage;)11:39
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nightswimSeveas: seveas.ubuntulinux.nl does not seem to be working11:40
nightswimwell, http'ing to it at least11:41
bzimagenightswim, its in the repos11:41
ompaullarsrohdin, for alias  edit .bashrc11:41
ompaul  file put in an entry like this >> shortcut='command -options' <<11:41
nightswimbzimage, which one? :)11:42
bzimageehmm. dunno.. i have all official repos enabled11:42
bzimage(universe, multiverse and such)11:42
ompaulhow the hell am I doing that - putting in line breaks in xchat without intention11:42
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weijie90bzImage: what about in the us?11:43
naliothnightswim: what did you want from seveas.ubuntubleh, ?11:43
bzimageweijie90, i guess cable11:43
nightswimnalioth: adobereader-enu_7.0.1-2_i386.deb11:43
bzimageits in the repos11:43
bzimage;)11:43
bzimagesomewhere11:43
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bzimagedunno wich one11:43
bzimagethough11:43
naliothnightswim: ah, that isnt easily availabe as some of his other things are11:44
jo_eI get the following error messages when trying to upgrade or install firefox11:44
jo_eE: /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/var/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions.d/00classic', which is also in package firefox11:44
jo_eE: /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox-gnome-support_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/libmozgnome.so', which is also in package firefox-gnome-support11:44
nightswimacroread_5.10-0.2_i386.deb sounds reasonable too11:44
bzimagejo_e, no copy paste in here!11:44
naliothjo_e: read the /topic please11:44
bzimagenightswim, why would you use such an old version11:45
naliothjo_e: it is very impolite to paste in chat channels11:45
jo_ebzimage, I have no web browser11:45
nightswimI dont know, I just would like any version really11:45
jo_esince firefox is not working11:45
jo_ewell, I will leave then.11:45
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bzimagepff.. weird11:45
bzimagequickly offended11:46
bzimage:S11:46
deFrysk:D11:46
boxerboy29took that a lil closer to home than maybe he should have11:46
garycbzimage, hey do you know how to limit the ftp users to their own home dir11:46
weijie90bzImage: hmm... does ubuntu have plug and play support for that? if it does, thats great...11:46
garycbzimage,   I am on proftp  now and it is working11:47
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boxerboy29galeion should work on its own from synaptic?11:47
garycbzimage, one user can see the other users home dir  including mine11:47
weijie90he must be root!11:48
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naliothboxerboy29: once you install galeon via synaptic, it will work fine11:48
boxerboy29yeah i kinda figured it should11:48
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bzimagein proftpd you need to use DefaultRoot ~11:49
bzimageto jail users11:49
boxerboy29mine starts to try to load than says screw you boxerboy i dont like you and poof gone11:49
garycbzimage, maybe it's a matter of user config in the system itself  and directory permissions11:49
garycbzimage, hey there it is - jail users -  how do I do that11:50
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boxerboy29i even added kubuntu desktop thinking maybe it was a kde web browser and still no luck11:50
bzimagegaryc, set DefaultRoot path to ~ in the config11:50
garycbzimage, do I set it in the proftp.conf file11:51
bzimageyes11:51
bzimagethen restart proftpd11:51
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garycbzimage, is restart  invoke-rc.d proftpd restart11:52
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garycbzimage, do I have the syntax right11:53
bzimagegaryc, sudo /etc/init.d/proftpd restart11:53
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boxerboy29http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2582    thats the error im getting11:53
boxerboy29when i try to run it from command line11:54
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bzimagegaryc, but your command does the same...11:55
bzimage'_11:55
bzimage:)11:55
hansi_xp:D11:55
bzimagealthough i prefer mine.. because there are more distro's... wich do not have invoke-rc.d11:56
bzimagethat way you can move arround on many distros11:56
bzimage:)11:56
henkhey does gnome have a terminal-session dropdown menu thingy? (like konsole has for kde?)11:56
bzimagehenk, why not use konsole then?11:58
bzimage:P11:58
linnerhey guys.. I'm outta here.... wanted to say thank you so very much for the wonderful education.... I love talkin' with ya'll.11:58
boxerboy29linner bye11:58
garycbzimage, I don't see a "DefaultRoot path"  statement that is commented out  -  can I type it in at the end of the file11:58
linnerboxerboy29: night dearl11:58
linnerdear even11:58
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henkbzimage, i know just wondering if gnome had something similar. there are some things about konsole i dont like so maybe there is an alternative11:59
bzimagegaryc, i would enter it just above the anonymous part11:59
bzimage(beginning of that block)11:59
boxerboy29anyone have a clue what javapluginfactory5 is and how do i get it if apt-get wont get it12:00
garycbzimage, is it DefaultRoot path = ~   or do I have to type set Default....etc12:00
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bzimagegaryc, DefaultRoot ~12:00
bzimagenot =12:00
garycbzimage, that's it  --  just DefaultRoot ~12:01
bzimageright12:01
bzimage:)12:01
jack-proftpd?12:01
bzimagejack-, yes12:01
jack-you dont need to set defaulroot12:01
garycbzimage, one moment12:01
bzimagejack: jailing users12:02
jack-only if you want a chrooted environment12:02
jack-..yeah12:02
bzimage:)12:02
jack-just be aware that ~ will equal /root12:02
jack-since proftpd doesnt change its uid when a user logs in12:03
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bzimageroot shouldn't be able to use ftp at all12:03
bzimage(as login user)12:03
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jack-thats not the issue12:03
jack-proftpd itself runs as root or not12:03
bzimagewhat do you mean then?12:03
bzimageooh.. that..12:03
bzimage;)12:03
jack-better specify an absolute path12:04
henkor use vsftpd which is very fast and acctualy tries to be secure :)12:04
bzimagejack-, i run many proftpds.. with root ~12:04
bzimageno problems so far..12:04
bzimageall jailed nicely12:04
daejavuguyz how can i backup all the stuff i get downloaded from Synaptic ?12:04
jack-ok then, tj might have changed it from 1.2.9 to .1012:04
bzimage(but running as proftpd.proftpd)12:04
beruicI'm pretty new to Ubuntu (and linux), can anybody help me?12:05
deFrysk!tell beruic about ask12:05
bzimagecompiled it myself...12:05
aftertafdaejavu:  why would you want to???? but it is in /var/cache/apt12:05
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daejavuaftertaf, i was thinking if it is possible to backup all of that so that in case i do a reinstall on the whole OS i can just use the backup to reinstall the packages i downloaded12:06
beruicI have just installed a maschine with a cd, and afterwards I added an extra harddisk. Why can't I see that harddisk?12:06
jack-because you didnt mount it12:06
jack-d'oh12:06
beruicHow do I do that?12:06
bzimagejack-, come on.. be nice...12:06
bzimage:)12:06
garycbzimage, I put that in just after all the anonymous stuff, which is all turned off by the way12:07
jack-mkdir /mnt/mydrive && mount /dev/partitionname /mnt/mydrive12:07
jack-as root12:07
bzimage(no offensive "d'oh" things)12:07
beruicI'm totally noob in the linux-world...12:07
daejavuaftertaf, anyidea how to do that ?12:07
naliothberuic: there are plenty of useful things at wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation12:07
garycbzimage, is there a file called welcome.msg in which I can place my welcome text12:07
beruicthx12:07
jack-read your /etc/fstab file12:08
jack-and add the new drive accordingly12:08
jack-then it will be automounted with the rest at boot time12:08
aftertafdaejavu:  duno if that would work. but you can get a list of all installed pkgs12:08
concept10is there a way to use evince as a firefox plugin?12:08
bzimagegaryc, yes there is12:08
aftertaffor that purpose12:08
daejavuhumm sounds ok .. how do i do that ?12:08
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garycbzimage, I can't find it12:08
bzimagecreate one12:09
garycbzimage, I looked in etc12:09
bzimage;)12:09
daejavuaftertaf, humm sounds ok .. how do i do that ?12:09
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garycbzimage, should it go in /etc12:09
aftertafdaejavu:  i dont actually know.... :/  i remember s/one mentioning it once12:09
daejavuokie dokie ..12:10
henkis it possible to define keyboard-shortcuts using more than 1 key? the keyboard shotcuts tool doesn't appear to let me define thing like ctrl+alt+F12 etc12:10
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aftertafbut aska round. someone will know ;)12:12
daejavuanyone knows how to get list of downloaded packages from Synaptic ?12:14
vinboyhi12:14
vinboymy Software update manaager says there is a new linux-image12:14
vinboyshould I update it?12:14
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vinboyi have seen some ppl run into problem after updatiing12:15
naliothvinboy: people run into problems from turning their machines off12:15
cafuego_you on breezy?12:15
daejavuwow .. is it my net or this place just went Quite all of the suden .. lolz12:15
vinboynalioth, what do u mean?12:16
naliothvinboy: are you using breezy?12:16
vinboynalioth, nope.. i'm using hoary12:17
cafuego_vinboy: You should be fine, then.12:17
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vinboyoh.. ok12:18
vinboyso.. i'll go update12:18
vinboyand blame u on disaster :D12:18
dduckoI was wondering if someone might know a program I can use.12:18
dduckoI am in a gaming group and a server is hosted on a remote computer12:18
cafuego_blame as much as you like I have indemity insurance12:18
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dduckoits a dynamic ip, and it seems its changed.. and the person that has it is fast asleep for several more hours12:18
dduckois there a port scanner I can use to scan.. Basicly class b address.. just need to check 1 port12:19
cafuego_dducko: nmap12:19
ompaulvinboy, take the same attitude with MS and see where it gets you12:20
dduckothanks12:20
cafuego_dducko: When said guy wakes up, tell him about dyndns.12:20
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henkdducko, you want to scan an intire range of ips on a ISP network to find what IP that box got ? hope they have a lousy abuse departmen12:20
dduckoyeah.. its been mentioned before..12:20
cafuego_henk: most do <heh>12:20
dduckoi can shorten to oh.. about 5k addresses.. instead of 70K12:21
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henkcafuego, heh12:21
cafuego_Hmm, suddenly Evolution has started threading12:22
ompauldducko, you may end up with no bandwidthread your isps aup before you do such a beastie12:23
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ompauldducko,  bandwidth read12:24
talioshey crimsun12:24
crimsunhey talios12:24
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cafuego_talios: it's broken.12:25
cafuego_talios: 0.0.13 was fine, 0.1.0 is dead.12:25
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talioscafuego, I'm more hmm'ing cause I've never really used it - but I always note than the first time I do a search it tells me the daemon isn't running.  I guess theres some "run on login" setting somewhere?12:26
cafuego_talios: yes, except that doesn't work at the moment. System -> Prefs -> Search & Indexing12:27
hutgyrrim trying to use cp -R to copy a folder over the network. It sin the format user's files. 'user\'s files' doesn't work though. What should I use?12:27
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henkis it poissble to define shotkut combinations with the windows key on the keyboard? or is that only possible to do with alt and ctrl ?12:29
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debuggerhello12:30
henkseems like a waste to treat that button als a non-special key12:30
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Nghenk: should be12:34
Ngalthough it may well behave like anormal key, not a shift/alt type key12:35
Ngthat's pretty stupid :/12:35
henkNG it appears so12:35
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Crys_UbuPCHey, all.12:37
Crys_UbuPCHow do I start up into enlightenment?12:38
beruicHello. I really neew some help to mount a drive. I'm totally lost...12:38
Crys_UbuPCHave you ever done one before?12:38
beruicN12:39
beruicNo12:39
Crys_UbuPCEver used the terminal?12:39
RMeist:)12:39
beruicNo12:39
Crys_UbuPCOkay. Ready to learn?12:39
beruicWell, not much that is :)12:39
beruicYep12:39
Crys_UbuPCOh. Well open that up.12:39
beruicBut i would prefer som gui12:39
Crys_UbuPCwhat kind of drive, btw?12:39
beruicDone12:39
beruicHarddisk12:40
Crys_UbuPCI don't know the gui way to do it.12:40
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locomortoberuic: theres a forum guide to enlightenment12:40
locomortoberuic: hold on12:40
beruicSecondary IDE master12:40
Crys_UbuPClocomorto, That was for me.12:40
beruick12:40
locomortooh nvm12:40
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Crys_UbuPCberuic Is it the third hard drive?12:40
beruicYep12:40
beruichdc12:40
locomortostop asking questions then :P12:40
Crys_UbuPCDo you know what partition you wanted on it?12:41
Crys_UbuPCmkdir /media/hdc112:41
beruicI think it has an FAT32 on it now12:41
Crys_UbuPCOkay, but I meant the partition number.12:41
beruicWhat's that?12:42
bzimagei have a problem, anyone who can help me?12:42
beruicDir made...12:42
bzimage*don't answer, it's a joke*12:42
henkbzimage, heh12:42
bzimage:P12:42
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deFryskbzimage, asl ?12:42
deFrysk;p12:42
Crys_UbuPCmount -t vfat /dev/hdc1 /media/hdc112:42
Crys_UbuPCI think.12:43
bzimageghehe12:43
locomortohere: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=972&d=111475467012:43
locomortoor: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30525 and get the attachment12:43
jack-i dont have a problem, but i'm bored..can anyone help? :<12:43
beruicIt did something...12:43
Crys_UbuPCcd /media/hdc112:44
bzimagejack-, NO12:44
henkjack help me find out how i use the windows-key as a special key like alt and ctrl so i can use it to create shotcut key combinations12:44
bzimage:P12:44
Crys_UbuPCdir12:44
deFryskberuic, see if there is an icon appeared on your desktop12:44
henk:P12:44
gmjonkerHi all. I have an Ubuntu/Grub problem. I installed Ubuntu on a Windows machine and now Grub freezes with error 21. Now what?12:44
jack-sigh12:44
Crys_UbuPCIf it worked you should see stuff.12:44
bzimagejack.. yes.. use windows12:44
bzimage:P12:44
beruicnone12:44
deFryskthats your new drive opened12:44
jack-omfg12:44
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locomortoCrys_UbuPC: or you can from da login screen go sessions12:44
jack-bzimage, you're evil ;)12:44
locomortoCrys_UbuPC: and choose you WM/DE12:44
beruicnothing12:44
bzimage*mumbles* i know12:44
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smottwhen my laptop comes back from hibernation, eth0 is gone. what's up?12:45
deFryskberuic, go with filemanager to the mounted driive12:45
beruicI'd wish I could run that program which I used under the installation...12:45
Crys_UbuPClocomorto, Oh, was that link up there for me? Why thank you.12:45
jack-qtparted?12:45
deFrysksee if it works12:45
beruicCan't find it12:45
bzimagesmott, using dhcp?12:46
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Crys_UbuPCberuic So dir didn't do it?12:46
jack-beruic: sudo apt-get install qtparted12:46
farionhi - I updated to breezy and now every program say something like "locale not supported by Xlib"12:46
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beruicInstalling...12:46
deFryskfarion, will automagically be fixed when upgrade is done12:46
hutgyrris there a command line dvd burner?12:46
bzimagedvddao12:47
bzimageor someting12:47
jack-cdrecord-prodvd12:47
bzimageh12:47
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RMeistburncd -F -f /dev/acd0c -e -s max format dvd+rw data dvdrw12:47
smottbzimage: no, static12:47
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avinoamAnyone know how to view a docbook document?12:47
farionlocales are outdated then? because of language-selector?12:47
bzimagesmott, sudo ifup eth012:47
RMeistcdrdao write  --driver generic-mmc --device "1,0,0" --eject --overburn $112:48
hutgyrrany available thru apt-get?12:48
jack-most of them12:48
Crys_UbuPCberuic, Sorry my way didn't help. Once you learn the way it becomes quite easy.12:48
jack-only cdrecord-prodvd requires you to google+download via http12:48
beruicok12:48
beruick12:48
smottbzimage: eth0 gets replaced by eth1 (wireless), and the old card disappears completely12:48
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bzimageRMeist, well.. nice.. but most of us don't want to use these LONG commands12:48
naliothhutgyrr: ask uncle google about "bashburn"12:48
bzimage:P12:48
beruicI hope so :)12:48
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RMeistbzimage: *click*click*:)12:49
beruicInstallation done!12:49
smottbzimage: something about eth0 not being able to be mapped reliably12:49
Crys_UbuPCyay!12:49
DagaZanyone here using madwifi in hoary?12:49
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beruicWht then?12:49
hutgyrrcant find package cdrecord-prodvd12:50
naliothhutgyrr: prodvd is not free12:50
jack-<jack-> only cdrecord-prodvd requires you to google+download via http12:50
jack-its free12:50
bzimagetralalalaaaa12:50
naliothhutgyrr: you have to hunt it down on the web12:50
jack-but not in the repos12:50
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farionhow to activate usplash in breezy?12:50
naliothjack-: have you read the license for it?12:50
jack-yes12:51
hutgyrroh, ok12:51
jack-free for home use etc12:51
naliothjack-: not free as in beer12:51
jack-only commercial use requires you to license it12:51
naliothbleh12:51
naliothit'12:51
nalioths not FOSS12:51
jack-but almost :p12:51
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beruicThink the drive is mounted and there now, but why doesnt it show in the Machine?12:52
jack-you dont get the source anyway nalioth12:52
jack-so..no need to worry12:52
jack-my advice was targeted to an user who just wants to burn12:52
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DagaZanyone got madwifi working in hoary??12:55
helloyomy server (which shares internet over dhcp) went down and came back up, but my other ubuntu box isn't connecting, at boot up says something like "temporary name server"*12:56
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helloyoso how do i get my internet connection to reconfigure?12:56
hutgyrrmmmh, well all I want to do is backup data onto DVD's, making two copies of each disk. whats the easiest solution12:56
Angel-SLhi12:57
Angel-SLwhats the path for System>Administration>Printers?12:57
taliosis there anything to record swf based screencasts in breezy?  I don't see vnc2swf (which i've used before) and vaguely remember some funky gnome base applet/application that did a similar thing?12:57
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DagaZhelloyo: what does the file /etc/network/interfaces say?12:58
helloyoDagaZ, i'll run upstairs and check, brb12:58
aftertaflol12:58
bzimageomg12:59
bzimage:P12:59
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helloyoDagaZ, "inet eth0 something dhcp" was the last line, anything i should be looking for?01:00
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bzimage:P01:00
Angel-SLhello01:00
bzimagehello01:00
DagaZhelloyo: if everything is ok in there run sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart01:01
helloyoDagaZ, looking at that file on this computer, its the same01:01
helloyoDagaZ, will do, thankyoU!01:01
Angel-SLHello??? whats the path for System -> Administration -> Printers01:02
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Angel-SLHello??? whats the path for System -> Administration -> Printers01:04
naliothAngel-SL: if anyone knows, they'll answer01:04
DagaZI want to remove linux-restricted-modules with synaptic.. but when I do that it wants to remove the kernel as well.. which doesn't sound very good to me ;-)01:06
bzimageAngel-SL, what exactly do you want..01:06
Angel-SLnvm i got it01:06
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helloyoDagaZ, no luck, didn't change anything, i can remember having this problem a month or so ago, but i am having a complete mental blank at how i fixed it01:06
bzimagethere is a menu editor in gnome.. use that to see the details for it01:07
DagaZhelloyo: have u tried setting a static ip?01:07
helloyono, where would i do that?01:08
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helloyoDagaZ, or is there a way i can ask for a new ip from the dhcp servfer?01:08
jpfariashi!01:08
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fluor_bzimage: it's a gameserver (it's 32-bit) but some ADDONS i have use 64-bit!  so i need 64bit. i need other admins to also connect, using their own ssh account. i do not want to give them root01:10
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bzimagefluor_, why repeating?01:11
bzimage:P01:11
helloyohow do i get ubuntu to reconfigure my internet connection? (havent changed it, just server went down, and now ubuntu is stumped)01:12
CaiN_SAreboot01:12
fluor_i want a better solution than chroot01:12
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bzimagefluor_, don't know a good solution atm01:13
bzimagesry01:13
helloyoCaiN_SA, not working, says something like "Temporary error"01:13
fluor_bah01:13
fluor_dont say i have to install windows :)01:13
bzimagefluor_, ehmm......01:14
bzimagefluor_, it's a solution...01:14
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helloyoi dont know if these days i ask harder questions, but i remember irc being much more helpful01:15
Myrtti!pastebin01:16
ubotu[pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl01:16
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DagaZhelloyo: I agree with u.. but at the moment I am trying to fix my netgear wg311t that has stopped working01:16
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henkHmm how do i remove the incons of mounted drives from my desktop? i want to keep them mounted but just no shown on the destop. If it appears in the 'places' dropdown it's good enough01:16
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arkanes!tell arkanes about win32codecs01:23
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obontuhey, can someone please tell me how to install my nforce2 in ubuntu?01:24
obontumy soundcard isn't working properly01:24
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Seagate!tell me about ntfs01:34
Seagate!tell me about ntfs01:34
dbzdeath!tell Seagate about ntfs01:34
foampeacedo tell do tell01:35
locomortohelloyo: power cycle your modem01:35
locomorto!tell foampeace about manners01:35
dbzdeathhaha01:35
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dbzdeath!tell dbzdeath about manners01:35
dbzdeathawww01:35
dbzdeathman now i'll never learn manners01:36
foampeacehow is mr manners?01:36
locomortomanners is not the art of appeasing locomorto01:36
locomorto!tell dbzdeath about manners01:36
foampeaceme and mr manners had a bath last week he was all soapy and bubbly01:36
locomortoooops01:37
locomortohold on01:37
dbzdeathhahaha01:37
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dbzdeathfoampeace: if your a guy... thats disturbing :P01:37
Nikopol!sendmail01:37
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, Nikopol01:37
locomortobah01:37
Nikopolmmm01:38
dbzdeath!uboto01:38
ubotuNo idea, dbzdeath01:38
Skid!beer01:38
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Skid01:38
Skidheh01:38
locomorto<item> is <what you want ubotu to say>01:38
dbzdeathhaha01:38
locomortoching01:38
locomortoAnyway, a little tip for those who run cedega01:39
dbzdeathman its so silent here01:39
dbzdeathi got a tip! make sure you have joilet extensions built into your kernel :P01:39
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locomortocull powernowd (sudo killall powernowd) if your having trouble with speed issues in HL2/CS:S or any other source game01:40
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locomortoIt seams to be a problem with the way linux reports the speed of the processor01:40
locomortoAs in windows says the full speed, and linux says the speed its currently running at (think CPU scaling)01:41
locomortoAlso having multiple CPUs also seems to elicit the same problem (in windows as well)01:41
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dbzdeathha01:41
Crys_UbuPCOkay, so enlightenment looks a lot like not good.01:41
dbzdeathwell what do you know01:41
dbzdeathi like xfce :D01:42
Crys_UbuPCIs this cruddiness normal?01:42
locomorto|gaminCrys: most people use it to replace metacity01:42
locomorto|gaminCrys: And I agree (mostly)01:42
locomorto|gaminCrys: I think its mainly the themes01:42
Crys_UbuPCIt is like an amped up blackbox.01:43
locomorto|gaminCrys: If your looking for speed go openbox+panel of your choice or XFCE01:43
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dbzdeathso how many of you guys don't use gnome?01:45
hutgyrris there a page i can go to, that shows all the apps available through apt-get?01:45
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dbzdeathhutgyrr: there is... somewhere01:45
Nikopol!postfix01:46
ubotuNikopol: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?01:46
bimberihutgyrr: http://packages.ubuntu.com/01:46
dbzdeathya there you go01:46
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ekimrebychow do i install php with mysql support here?01:47
naliothekimrebyc: you've landed in spambot gaol01:48
naliothekimrebyc: read the /topic and free yourself01:48
dbzdeathapt-get install php4-mysql(or php5-mysql if you want it)01:48
henkwhat is the ubuntu/gnome way of managing and controlling samba (shares)01:49
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bimberihenk: System -> Admin -> Shared Folders01:49
ekimrebycdbzdeath, that package is not in the repository01:50
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henkbimberi, is there a slightly more advanced way to do it ? (share printers, use passwords etc)01:51
hussamguys, I need help. I can't access archive.ubuntu.com or ubuntulinux.org or kubuntu.org. I called my ISP and they tried opening those sites and it worked on their PCs, but all those  sites time out on my PC01:52
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farionhow can i use bootsplash with breezy?01:53
bimberihenk: not that i know of sorry, printer sharing is via cups btw01:53
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naliothfarion: i believe the program you want is called "splashy"01:53
dbzdeathekimrebyc: php4-mysql and php5-mysql are both there for me on breezy amd6401:55
Nikopolanyone know how to increase the attachment size that Postfix will accept?01:55
bimberihenk: some info on printer sharing -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=print&titlesearch=Titles01:55
Nikopolcouldn't find an entry in main.cf01:55
dbzdeath!tell Nikopol about postfix01:55
dbzdeathhaha aww01:56
Nikopolnope nada! tried it before01:56
Nikopoldbzdeath, thanks for trying though :)01:56
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AMDXPman finally i got my ubuntu box running01:59
aftertaf:) AMDXP01:59
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aftertafsilly question: what happens if on oct 13th the breezy packs arent stable?02:00
drogohThey say "oops, another week".02:00
aftertafhehe. :)02:00
bimberioh ye of little faith02:01
AMDXPaftertaf: =) is right02:01
aftertafbimberi:  just on the offchance..... they release bugfixes anyway. otherwise hoary would be the same at april ;)02:01
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aftertafdoes anyone know how to sovle the timezone pb wetween linux and xp? I dualboot at home and  one or the other is always on the wrong time...02:02
trixhow to install kubuntu cd in ubuntu w/out internet connection?02:02
mwright1nightHi all, quick question, is ubuntu breezy final release going to wait for oo202:02
bimberiaftertaf: yeah, although it's good to know when you hand someone a pressed CD that it's good to go02:02
aftertafbimberi:  my thoughts were mosre with the cd ;)02:03
farionnalioth: how to get splash - apt-file doesn't find anything02:03
trixhow to install kubuntu cd in ubuntu w/out internet connection?02:03
farion'splashy02:03
trixhow to install kubuntu cd in ubuntu w/out internet connection?02:03
trixhow to install kubuntu cd in ubuntu w/out internet connection?02:03
aftertaftrix:  dont repeat.....02:03
drogohOnly once is enough.02:03
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bimberimwright1night: i strongly doubt it02:03
aftertaftrix:  you put in te cd, you boot, you install it. where is the actual pb?02:04
naliothfarion: get breezy02:04
mwright1nightTHey're pretty slow, but ubuntu along with oo, is some of the coolest things happening to Linux02:04
farionnalioth: have  breezy02:04
mwright1nightbreezy isn't released is it? not until the 13th?02:04
drogohtsw, But it isn't Debian's fault updates are 10 releases behind mainstream. :p02:04
aftertaftrix:  do you have the cd to install with?02:04
trixwhat is pb?02:04
naliothfarion: then i'm not sure, i thought splashy was part of breezy02:04
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bimberimwright1night: i'm sure the backporters will be on the case though :)02:04
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tswdrogoh: true :)02:04
drogoh<3 political cruft02:05
farionnalioth:usplash is part of breezy, but i didnt get i work. and my old bootsplashprogressbar isnt running, because i cant patch the new sysv-rc-files02:05
aftertaftrix:  pb = problem.02:05
Skidaftertaf: install ntp, and sync with a decent clock02:05
Skidntpdate02:05
aftertafSkid:  it synchs on linux ok.... but then when i boot win it it 2hrs behind.02:06
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aftertafSkid:  i then synch win and linux is out of date....02:06
Skidwell, sync your clock on XP ? :P02:06
Skidmaybe your cmos battery is about to keel over and die? :o02:06
Skidnah, try syncing in XP02:06
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Skidi dont know why it'd do that, but that may help02:07
aftertafSkid:  linux does it auto.... but i have to synch each time on xp... seems its sth to do with utc02:07
drogohJust throw tardis2000 on the Windows side.02:07
aftertafSkid:  when i sync in xp, then ubuntu is 2 hrs fast02:07
bimberiaftertaf: sounds like linux thinks the h/w clock is on GMT, whereas XP assumes its local (not sure how to fix it though)02:07
drogohPeep at the CMOS too...02:07
aftertafdrogoh:  hehe ok... bimberi exact ;)02:07
AMDXPdo i have to mount my other hard drives?02:07
aftertafi am on gmt +102:08
AMDXPthey dont just automount02:08
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aftertafAMDXP:  nope02:08
aftertaf!mount02:08
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives02:08
IlluvQuestion: I want to find all domains that contain a specific hostname within my /usr/namedb/primary directory...is this possible with a specific find command, or do I need to script for this?02:08
bimberiaftertaf: but on DST atm?02:08
aftertafyep... so +2 atm02:08
umberleighhi, i'm having a problem playing audio CDs - i can't mount them and KsCD and amaroK can't seem to read them. any ideas?02:09
aftertafi know fdisk is a solution.... but i can't :/02:09
mwright1nightanyone here know how to setup a RAID 0 + 1,   I have created /dev/md0 (striping over 3 disks) and /dev/md1 (striping over 3 disks)02:09
bimberiaftertaf: fdisk!?!02:09
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aftertafumberleigh:  cant mount them? does mount give you a reason?02:09
mwright1nighthow do I create /dev/md2 which is a RAID 1 that consists on /dev/md0 + /dev/md102:09
aftertafbimberi:  yeah, on the xp partition ;)02:09
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umberleighaftertaf: mount: I could not determine the filesystem type, and none was specified02:10
bimberiaftertaf: lol02:10
AMDXPok after: i will figure it out02:10
AMDXPaftertaf: i will figure it out thanks02:10
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aftertafAMDXP:  ok. that link will get you going, but if you get stuck, ask02:10
aftertafumberleigh:  do you have a /cdrom entry in etc/fstab ?02:11
umberleighaftertaf: /dev/hda     /media/dvd-ram  auto   user,noauto           0      0 <-- this is  the relevant line in my fstab file02:11
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aftertaf/dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0 0 in mine02:12
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aftertafhmm. umberleigh could be the auto part in the filesystem.... tried putting udf,iso9660 ?02:13
dseherHello, *nix newcomer, very tired, possibly overlooked something, need help-02:13
aftertafwith it being dvd and not cd, maybe s/one else knws better?02:13
larsrohdinIs anyone here good at xfce?02:13
umberleighaftertaf: /cdrom is symlinked to /media/cdrom, which in turn is symlinked to /media/dvd-ram, btw02:14
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aftertaflarsrohdin:  me, nope... sorry02:14
scenestarcan someone explain to me02:14
scenestarwhy ubuntu crashes when i wish to view a video02:14
dseherWent to packet manager, followed the guide on the wiki to enable mp3 support, tried to reload, and get a error: W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net etch Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B90702:14
Skiddseher: perhaps if you ask your question, someone will be able to answer it02:14
Skidoops, sorry my bad02:14
umberleighaftertaf: that's what i had before and it wasn't working. i'll flip it back to check if i'm getting the same error.02:14
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dseherNow now, you know things take time to type.02:14
naliothdseher: nerim will break your box02:14
aftertafdseher:  :)02:14
Skid:P02:14
scenestarhey\02:15
scenestarwhy does media support suck so bad02:15
Skidscenestar: generally02:15
larsrohdindoes anyone know if it is possible to set an alias for a command in xfrun in xfce? Like an alias in bashrc?02:15
aftertafdseher:  true, that isnt an official repos.02:15
Skidits impaitient users02:15
Skid(sp, argh.)02:15
Skid:p02:15
the_watchtowerwho can help with proftp02:15
scenestarSkid : this is awfull02:15
scenestarnearly as bad as windows02:15
aftertafscenestar:  have you got all the codecs n stuff?02:15
scenestaryeah02:15
onkarshindeAre DRI drivers already included in hoary? I want to use ATI Radeon 7000 AGP card.02:16
scenestarits a standard dvd02:16
Skidhave you taken the time to read the wiki/forums?02:16
scenestaron vlc player02:16
aftertafscenestar:  have you tested different files?02:16
scenestarindeed02:16
nalioththe_watchtower: welcome02:16
scenestaryup02:16
Skiddseher: personally, im not sure, I take it there's no key, so it can't be verified, butI've installed unverified packages before fine02:16
the_watchtowernalioth, thankyou02:16
scenestari properly mounted the dvd02:16
scenestarso its not the drive02:16
ompaulscenestar, because of a thing called with WIPO and their restrictive practice promotion02:16
the_watchtowernalioth, you are here also02:16
Skidmp3 support to what, why not just install xmms thinking about it?02:16
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scenestarwell listen up02:16
scenestarim not out here to take omg its their drm02:17
the_watchtowerwho can help with proftp02:17
aftertafbimberi:  thx.... will have a look at that ;)02:17
scenestarcause thats just plain easy02:17
bimberiaftertaf: oops, that's --localtime02:17
onkarshindeAre DRI drivers already included in hoary? I want to use ATI Radeon 7000 AGP card.02:17
bimberiaftertaf: yw :)02:17
henkbimberi, i've set up cups for my printer on ltp1 and everything seems to be OK, even networking is running fine.. only thing is it does not print... : /    the logs say nothing out of the ordinary. any thoughts on how i should debug what's going wrong ?02:17
scenestargoddammit02:18
nalioththe_watchtower: just ask your question02:18
scenestarthere isnt a single distro that just works out of the box02:18
aftertafscenestar:  do you have libdvdcss installed?02:18
dseherSkid: It's 7am coming off an all-nighter, and I have little clue what the hell I'm talking about when it comes to linux in general :P02:18
Skidheh02:19
scenestaraftertaf : thank you02:19
Skidyou just wanting to play mp3's?02:19
umberleighaftertaf: i'm getting a different error message, see http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/258302:19
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bimberihenk: did you set the cups port to listen on all interfaces?02:19
the_watchtowernalioth, I want to setup a message in welcome.msg so people see it when they log on to my ftp server02:19
bimberihenk: and restart cupsys02:19
henkbimberi, it's not the networking part that is not workin. its the local part.. the testpage is not comming out either02:19
the_watchtowerwho can help with proftp02:20
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bimberihenk: ah, k, hm02:20
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aftertafscenestar:  think its that.... but not found in repos.... :/  id enable universe & multiverse and install a few extras for dvd...02:20
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the_watchtowerwho can help with proftp02:21
the_watchtowerwho can help with proftp02:21
Skidthe_watchtower: ask then?02:21
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YattaMaXhi all02:21
aftertafthe_watchtower:  what is your pb with it?02:21
aftertafhi:)02:21
Skidand people will frown on your for repeating02:21
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YattaMaX I have any question on customization of Live CD02:21
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the_watchtowerhow do i setup welcome.msg refered to in the conf file02:22
YattaMaXanyone  can help me ?02:22
hansi_xptalk dude02:22
nalioth_zZzYattaMaX: just ask the room your question02:22
scenestaraftertaf : i have it installed02:22
scenestarso that wasnt the issue02:22
the_watchtowerskid, how do i setup welcome.msg refered to in the conf file02:22
YattaMaXwell .....02:22
hansi_xp?02:23
bimberihenk: only thing i can think of is to verify that you used "Parallel Port #1" in the Printer Admin dialogs02:23
whyameyeis there a way to get some playback controls in the mplayer plugin for filefox?02:23
ompaul!tell YattaMaX about ask02:23
whyameyebarring that, is there a way to switch to another plugin for video, say totem-xine?02:23
hansi_xpwhyameye: that's a good question dude02:23
the_watchtoweraftertaf, hey the conf file says Displaylogin    welcome.msg   but I can't find the file to edit it02:23
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aftertafthe_watchtower:  what is the file called?02:24
whyameyehansi_xp: it's bad enough that mplayer plugin crashes firefox...02:24
YattaMaXI can make a very simple live cd, where the user don't have anythings question on boot02:24
aftertafscenestar:  hmmm. have you enabled multiverse in sources?02:24
the_watchtowerproftpd.conf02:24
the_watchtoweraftertaf, proftpd.conf02:24
hansi_xpwhyameye: did you try the mplayer channel?02:24
aftertafok. is that a file you can find?02:25
YattaMaXMy user is blind02:25
the_watchtoweraftertaf, it's for setting up the welcome banner when people login to ftp02:25
aftertafyep the_watchtower .. have you done a search for that file?02:26
YattaMaX-> where I modify for personalization the boot of live cd ?02:26
the_watchtoweraftertaf, welcome.msg does not exist on the system02:27
YattaMaXcarefully I want remove the screen resolution question on boot02:27
the_watchtoweraftertaf, if I create it where does it go  --  /etc  maybe\02:27
scenestaraftertaf : offcourse i do02:28
scenestarwhich btw is one of the silliest ideas ever02:28
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scenestara universe02:28
whyameyehansi_xp: no I didn't. Is it #mplayer?02:28
YattaMaXanyone can help me ?02:28
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hansi_xpwhyameye: yep.02:29
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BurgerMannHi. I'm installing Ubuntu on a server. When I boot, and type server, for server installation... will X be installed? or do I have to live with only a shell?02:29
havocBurgerMann: no XD, I believe02:29
havoc-D02:29
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ompaulBurgerMann, only a shell - if you want to install X after that apt-get install ubuntu-desktop02:29
the_watchtoweraftertaf, did you get lost02:30
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havocBurgerMann: the only difference between the default and 'server' installs is the desktop environment02:30
BurgerMannhavoc & ompaul: okay. thx :)02:30
scenestarhmmm02:30
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scenestari noticed that sevrer is fscheck on amy laptop02:31
scenestarfull install is so much better02:31
the_watchtoweraftertaf, the proftpd.conf file refers to welcome.msg as the place to put the welcome banner when people login02:31
BurgerMannohh this is so sweet! :p02:31
BurgerMannalways a thrill to install a linux distro :P02:31
the_watchtoweraftertaf, what directory should this file be in02:31
BurgerMannOops forgot to plug the network adapter in02:32
ryanakcadoes anyone know of a good HOWTO for getting a mail server up and running^02:32
BurgerMannsome server with no network adapter :S02:33
YattaMaXI can customizating the Ubuntu Live CD for a blind user, therefore I have to limit the question on boot.....carefully the screen resolution question on boot.         anyone can help me ?02:33
havocryanakca: depends on what server you're running02:33
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ryanakcahavoc: courier & postfix, if possible, or cyrus and postfix02:33
havocryanakca: then: http://www.postfix.org/docs.html02:33
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dade`hi02:34
dade`what is needed to have the "suspend to disk" function in gnome logout ?02:35
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Seveasgnome :)02:35
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Seveasand gdm02:35
dade`i built my own kernel WITH the swsusp support02:35
dade`i have gnome and gdm.02:35
aftertafthe_watchtower:  check here..... ive never used it myself   http://www.proftpd.org/docs/example-conf.html02:35
YattaMaXI have to customizating the Ubuntu Live CD for a *blind* user, therefore I have to limit any question on boot.....carefully the screen resolution question on boot.         anyone can help me ?02:35
miltos01hi ppl-:)02:35
Seveashm, dunno about custom kernels...02:36
seliniumYattaMaX, Set the box to auto loigin after 10 secs02:36
aftertafits a live cd....02:36
the_watchtoweraftertaf, i read that site until my eyes are bleeding  - it refers to welcome.msg  1000s of times but never answers the question02:37
miltos01I've got devolo microlink usb adapter to connect to internet and unfortunately the installation drivers for linux do not work...pls help02:37
seliniumYattaMaX, Sytem/Admin/Login Screen setup02:37
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aftertaferf :/02:37
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Canadeanhello02:38
hansi_xphello02:38
bimberithe_watchtower: try putting it in the same directory as the config file - there should be a sample one at /usr/share/doc/proftpd/examples/welcome.msg02:38
seliniumYattaMaX, Have you got that?02:38
miltos01pls any help???02:38
the_watchtowerbimberi, checking02:39
YattaMaXselenium: ok , this is the default on GDM live cd02:39
YattaMaXselenium: ok , this is the default on GDM live cd02:39
Canadeancan  anyone tell me (in lamens terms) how to install a driver...  I have a Marvell Yukon Gigabit Eternet adaptor on my motherboard and it isn't recognised...02:39
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YattaMaXselnium: where ?02:39
seliniummiltos01, Give people a chance.02:39
CanadeanI am now in windows02:39
hutgyrrive just installed bacula with apt-get and it installed lots of other things with it also. eg. sqlite, baula-director. How can I remove all these?02:40
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YattaMaXselnium: On live cd, the auto login is ok :/02:40
Canadeananyone...02:40
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hansi_xphello02:40
miltos01<selinium> thanks for you reply02:40
ryanakcais there a way to install php5 using apt?02:41
ryanakcaI mean mysql5 using apt02:41
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seliniumYattaMax: I am not sure about Live CD02:41
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senaquedoes anyone know if 5.10 fixes the 5.04 bug related to software raid / md / udev race condition?02:42
aftertafhutgyrr:  with apt-get remove package, or with debfoster, or synaptic...depends on you...02:42
YattaMaXselenium: trusty :)   , at the moment , my Live CD login automatically on GDM02:42
miltos01Here is the location for usb devolo microlink driver for anyone who will try to help me http://download.devolo.biz/webcms/1124872910_dlan-linux-package-2.0.tar.gz   ...thnaks anyway02:42
conbHi, I have a question regarding hibernate: On my laptop (Dell M70), when I hibernate everything seems to work properly and the machine goes down. When I hit the power button to resume, on bootup I see messages when initialised swap saying that it's found software suspend 2 data in the swapspace so it reinits the swap and boots as normal rather than resuming from that suspend data. do I need to give a parameter to the kernel on bootup to get it to res02:43
conbume?02:43
YattaMaXselenium: the problem is FIRST that starting "X session" or GDM02:43
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seliniummiltos01, If i remember there is a free telephone help with the devolo products. Have asked them?02:43
hutgyrryeah used synaptic because with apt-get remove --purge bacula it just removed the server I think02:43
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the_watchtowerbimberi, wait a minute does it go in /etc or is the welcome.msg file accessed from down in the example folder??02:44
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YattaMaXcan I customizing procedure of boot of a LiveCD ?02:45
YattaMaX(Ubuntu LIve CD :)  )02:45
the_watchtowerbimberi, I found the example,  where should it be saved after I edit it02:45
hutgyrrhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/utils/dvd+rw-tools does this burn dvds?02:46
bimberithe_watchtower: /etc (if that's where the conf file is) - i am guessing though, i don't use it02:46
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Sionideasdfff02:46
Wipe-Outhey02:46
Sionidefirefox just broke when i tried to upgrade to 1.0.7 :s02:46
miltos01<selinium> not yet but i will try02:46
Wipe-Outthat sux dude02:46
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bimberi!ff fix02:46
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, ff fix is sudo dpkg --purge --force-depends firefox firefox-gnome-support ; sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox mozilla-firefox-gnome-support02:46
aftertafSionide:  hmm works for me man...02:47
Wipe-Outcan any of you help me? i've got some issues installing the ndiswrapper02:47
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Sionideah02:47
seliniummiltos01, I'll keep looking02:47
selinium:)02:47
Sionidethanks bimberi that looks useful, one sec02:47
aftertafbut im on kde ;)02:47
Canadeananyone know how to install the driver for the Marvell Yukon Gigabit adapter, or any drivers in general...02:47
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Wipe-Outcan any of you help me? i've got some issues installing the ndiswrapper02:47
CanadeanI've just started using linux...02:47
YattaMaXI have to customizating the Ubuntu Live CD for a *blind* user, therefore I have to limit any question on boot (FIRST that X or GDM starting) .....carefully the screen resolution question on boot.         anyone can help me ?02:47
twibblerWipe-Out can help installing drivers into ndiswrapper ....02:48
Wipe-Outwhen i type: sudo make02:48
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Wipe-Outi'm having some issues with it02:48
Serv|nokiahello can somebody help me whit that: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2584 ?02:48
Wipe-Outkant seem to get "make" to work :S02:48
Serv|nokiaWipe-out: sudo apt-get install make?02:48
Wipe-Outyou got to be kidding me02:49
Wipe-Outrealy?02:49
Serv|nokiatry it and try then02:49
Sionidebimberi, didn't work, it still wont start up properly02:49
Serv|nokiahello can somebody help me whit that: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2584 ?02:49
ompaulWipe-Out, sudo apt-get install build-essential02:49
Wipe-Outokay thx guys02:49
Sionidei just see "starting firefox" then it disappears and firefox doesn't start02:49
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miltos01thanks <selinium> I suspect that sth with their KERNELDIR paramaters is wrong...anyway. I'' give them a call02:49
Wipe-Outand then i'll be able to do sudo make?02:50
deFryskServ|nokia, sudo apt-get install build-essential02:50
ompaul!tell Sionide about ff fix02:50
seliniummiltos01, :) good luck02:50
Sionideompaul, i just did that and it's still broken02:50
Sionide!ff fix02:50
ubotuwell, ff fix is sudo dpkg --purge --force-depends firefox firefox-gnome-support ; sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox mozilla-firefox-gnome-support02:50
Sionidedidn't work ^^^02:50
selinium!tell selinium about ndiswrapper02:50
Serv|nokiadeFrysk dosent help it same error02:50
Sionide!ndiswrapper02:50
ubotundiswrapper is, like, totally, a way to support Windows wirless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper02:50
ompaulSionide, have you got backports installed02:50
Wipe-Outokay brb let you all know if it helped02:50
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Sionideompaul, yes02:51
deFryskSionide, get rid of that02:51
ompaulSionide, is that where your firefox came from?02:51
Sionideerm most likely02:51
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Sionidetake out backports? :s02:51
ompaulSionide, you know thats what I would do :)02:51
deFryskSionide, remove it spit on it and bury it02:51
Sionidebah02:52
Whistlerhow should i play avi file?Totem-xine says there is no plugin02:52
Sionideok02:52
the_watchtowerbimberi, lets give it a try  --  can you login to my ftp server02:52
ompaulSionide, guess what you do after that :) !ff fix :)02:53
Sionideaye02:53
ompaulSionide, don't forget to apt-get update afterwards02:54
seliniummiltos01, you can see if this will shed any light...  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartLinkModemDriverHowTo/FromSource?highlight=%28usb%29%7C%28modem%2902:54
Sionidedpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove firefox which isn't installed.02:54
Serv|nokiahello can somebody help me whit that: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2584 ?02:54
Sionidedpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove firefox-gnome-support which isn't installed.02:54
bimberithe_watchtower: sure, ip same as you're irc-ing from?02:54
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the_watchtowerbimberi, 66.142.90.3602:54
ompaul!tell Sionide about paste02:54
the_watchtowerbimberi,  user=agora     pass=agoramin02:54
Sionidewhaaa02:54
Sionidethat wasn't large amounts of text, it was 2 lines..02:55
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ompaulSionide, I felt you might do more, its not your day :) here have a virtual cuppa02:55
Sionideheh nah it's not02:56
Sionideok02:56
bimberithe_watchtower: ok to /msg you?02:56
the_watchtowerbimberi, yes02:56
YattaMaXhow to modify the *boot procedure* of the Ubuntu Live CD02:56
miltos01<selinium> this is not a modem this is an ethernet adapter connecte directly to router via electricity...02:56
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YattaMaXhow to modify the *boot procedure* of the Ubuntu Live CD ?02:56
Whistlerhttp://pastebin.com/375643 whats wrong with this ?02:56
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Angel-SLhow do i reconfigure X?02:56
Sionideompaul, it's still not starting up :s02:56
WhistlerAngel-SL sudo dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg02:56
robertjheya all. Any suggestions on how best to build the fuse-module from src so the upgrade to breezy goes as well as is possible?02:56
Whistleror smt like that02:57
ompaulSionide, try to start it in a terminal firefox and see if it gives some useful info02:57
Whistlerhttp://pastebin.com/375643 whats wrong with this ?02:57
Whistleri am on breezy02:57
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Angel-SLno02:57
Sionideompaul, nope, just skips to the next line02:57
Sionideand does nothing02:57
Sionide:s02:57
Sionideargghh02:58
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Whistleranybody can help me?02:58
Angel-SLhello? how do i reconfigure X?02:58
ompaulSionide, how used to computers are you?02:58
hansi_xpwhuz up02:58
ompaulSionide, not your windows type either02:58
Sionideompaul, not too bad02:58
Angel-SLHello!?02:59
ompaulSionide, let me introduce you to 'strace firefox'02:59
aftertafAngel-SL:  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:59
Angel-SLhow do i reconfigure X?!?!?!02:59
YattaMaXAngel-SL: http://www.google.it/search?hl=it&q=ubuntu+reconfigure+x&btnG=Cerca+con+Google&meta=02:59
Angel-SLthanks, aftertaf02:59
Angel-SLYattaMaX, ugh02:59
Whistlerhttp://pastebin.com/375643 whats wrong with this ? I am on breezy02:59
rico_eberleand be sure that you are aware of ur refresh rate form the monitor03:00
Sionideompaul, augh, what did that do?03:00
ompaulit follows _every_ step of the program as it tries to run03:00
YattaMaX[QUESTION]  :  how to modify the *boot procedure* of the Ubuntu Live CD ?03:01
aftertafWhistler:  breezy no longer has w32codecs.03:01
Whistleraftertaf so what should i do?03:01
aftertaf!w32codecs03:01
ubotuw32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hory), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy). 64-bit? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5439903:01
ompaulSionide, maybe not for today, is the package now showing as installed?03:01
aftertafWhistler:  ^^^^^^^^^03:01
Whistlerthx a lot03:01
Whistler:)03:01
aftertaf:)03:01
YattaMaX[QUESTION]  :  how to modify the *boot procedure* of the Ubuntu Live CD ?03:02
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concept10aftertaf, what happened to the w32 codecs?03:03
the_watchtowerbimberi, you still there03:03
bimberiyeah :)03:04
YattaMaX[QUESTION]  :  how to modify the *boot procedure* of the Ubuntu Live CD ?03:04
bimberiit took me a while but i was able to mkdir and upload :)03:05
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Sionideompaul, agh gonna have to go i'll try sort it out later on03:06
Sionidebleerghh03:06
Sionideback laters03:06
seliniummiltos01, Oh one of those! they say that you can use any system. Do you have a windows box?03:06
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Serv|nokiahello can somebody help me whit that: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2584 ?03:07
selinium!w32codecs03:07
ubotuw32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hory), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy). 64-bit? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5439903:07
seliniumconcept10, ^^^^^^03:07
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mjrhmh, were I editing, I'd s/popular/proprietary/ :)03:08
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dabaRServ|nokia: to me it looks like you are compiling some3thing you shoudl not.03:09
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seliniummiltos01, ?03:09
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dabaRServ|nokia: as well, seems like you did not read the instructions.03:10
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vbgunzhello everyone!03:10
vbgunzanyone alive?03:11
Skidnope03:11
seliniumnot me03:11
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vbgunz:P03:11
vbgunzwhat is the difference between sudo and gksudo?03:12
Hobbseehehe...nope, definetly not alive here03:12
the_watchtowergood morning folks03:12
vbgunzroom seems to be real slow today... I never seen it like this before03:13
vbgunzgood morning03:13
aftertafconcept10:  legal issues :)03:13
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the_watchtowervbgunz, do you have a monent to login to my ftp server03:13
aftertafvbgunz:  difference is, one handles the correct way of runnug x apps in a console, other doesnt03:13
Hobbseeevening all :P03:13
aftertafafternon :D03:13
the_watchtowervbgunz, i am testing some changes03:13
Hobbseewhich one is the correct way of running x apps?03:14
vbgunzthe_watchtower: why?03:14
vbgunzoh03:14
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aftertafHobbsee:  gksudo... if you need to run an x app as root03:14
Hobbseeright03:14
the_watchtowervbgunz, I want to see if the welcome.msg file is showing as a banner when you log in03:14
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aRJAyWhy Ubuntu ?03:15
vbgunzdo I have an ftp client?03:15
seliniummiltos01, I would like to get it working.. My inlaws have got some, I want to be able to use them.03:15
ryanakcawhy do I get this message when I try to run gedit: http://rafb.net/paste/results/Wikkx249.html03:15
seliniumaRJAy, in what sense? Why the name or the OS?03:15
aRJAyselinium: Why the OS instead of other distributions?03:16
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the_watchtowervbgunz, any ftpclient will do  goto  66.142.90.36   user=agora   pass=agoramin03:16
the_watchtowerIt should welcome you by name, give the time and tell you that you may upload or download03:16
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seliniumaRJAy, Easy to run/update 6 month release schedule. Fantastic community03:16
vinboyhi03:17
vbgunzI used Firefox to login... no, banner :(03:17
vinboydoes anyone know of a good editor?? support php etc03:17
vbgunzI should use a client other than Firefox to see the banner?03:17
aRJAyselinium: 6 month release? how do you mean?03:17
vbgunzSciTE03:17
vbgunzjust a preference03:17
dabaRaRJAy: we mean www.ubuntu.com03:17
aRJAyselinium: what's it based on ?03:17
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the_watchtowervbgunz, does firefox not show the banner  -  I don't know03:18
seliniumvinboy: what kind of editor do you want? something like dreamweaver or something to hand code with?03:18
seliniumaRJAy, debian03:18
the_watchtowervbgunz, do you have gftp03:18
vbgunzthe_watchtower: I just logged in and saw folders and files... no welcome or anything of the such...03:18
hutgyrrim after installing a new dvd drive in my computer, using the slave cable. What will the device name be?03:18
aRJAyselinium: So, is it a fork of sorts?03:18
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hmrochahello03:18
the_watchtowervbgu awe poo03:19
hmrochai want to install the portuguese dictionary for openoffice03:19
mjrhutgyrr, if primary slave, hdb. If secondary, hdd.03:19
az[a] zelbah, kernel update b0rked my grub, so I had to hand fix :/ but now I know grub commands and how to do this fix, so no drama in the future :) but not good....03:19
aftertafaRJAy:  goto ubuntu homepage, good intro to what,why; how ... ;)03:19
hmrochado you know what packages have the dictionaries?03:19
vbgunzif I were in Windows I would definitely be to log in with FileZilla but I don't have it set up03:19
the_watchtowerI don't understand this welcome.msg file03:19
vinboyselinium, either will do...03:19
hutgyrrthanks mjr03:19
vbgunzthe_watchtower: Does Ubuntu come with a ftp client?03:19
aRJAyaftertaf: on there now.. looking about at the same time..03:19
seliniumaRJAy, of sorts, but it has a very strong development team. there is a new release out on the 13th Oct, and we can expect a new release 6 months on from that.03:19
Serv|nokiadabaR: what you can say about that:  cannot execute binary file03:19
mjrvbgunz, you can open ftp urls straight with Nautilus03:20
miltos01<selinium> ok03:20
vbgunzmjr: yeah?03:20
mjrvbgunz, if you prefer, there's gftp and many others available too03:20
seliniumvinboy, I am a php developer and I use bluefish, if you want the dreamweaver thing try nvu03:20
the_watchtowervbgunz, I think you have a choice of a few using the synaptic manager03:20
vbgunzmjr:  actually just trying to help the_watchtower right now03:20
mjroh, okay :)03:21
vbgunzi'll try nautilus, thanks mjr!03:21
dabaRServ|nokia: I can say that you are 1) doing something you should not, nmost likely. 2) you are not reading the instructions on how to do it.03:21
mjrwell, either of you, you can connect to a [ftp]  server from the locations menu in the top bar03:21
seliniummiltos01, you have got the usb version... If you had the cat5 version I would say set up the boxes on that, then just plug in ubuntu.03:21
the_watchtowervbgunz, does the welcome.msg file go in /etc03:21
kemikmjr:  nautilus supports SSL ?03:21
mjrkemik, dunno if it supports it with ftp03:22
hutgyrrwhat is the command to unmount a dvd03:22
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kemikdoesnt seem like it :|03:22
vbgunzthe_watchtower: not sure... Nautilus is taking forever with it03:22
kemikhutgyrr:  umount /dev/dvd03:22
vbgunzNautilus cannot display "ftp://ftp/66.142.90.36/".03:22
vbgunzahhh03:22
kemikvbgunz:  malformed adress03:22
aRJAyselinium: but what about security updates inbetween the 6 months?03:22
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the_watchtowervbgunz, that's my next problem  --  my burner wont burn cds03:23
seliniummiltos01, did you get any joy from devolo?03:23
Wipe-Outhey i'm back03:23
hutgyrrkemik: It says that it seems the device is mounted multiple times03:23
kemikvbgunz:  ftp://66.142.90.36/03:23
Wipe-Outstill having issues03:23
seliniumaRJAy, sent direct to your pc, An icon warns you of downloads/patches03:23
DagaZanyone got madwifi working in hoary??03:23
Wipe-Outneed to get my Wlna to work, i'm sick an tiered of windows03:23
kemikhutgyrr:  doesnt sound good03:23
vinboythanks selinium03:23
seliniumvinboy, np :)03:24
Wipe-Outsubzero@Boss:~/ndiswrapper-1.3rc1$ sudo make install03:24
Wipe-Outmake -C driver install03:24
Wipe-Outmake[1] : Entering directory `/home/subzero/ndiswrapper-1.3rc1/driver'03:24
Wipe-Outmake -C /lib/modules/2.6.12-8-386/build SUBDIRS=/home/subzero/ndiswrapper-1.3rc1/driver \03:24
Wipe-Out        DRIVER_VERSION=1.3rc1 \03:24
Wipe-Out        UTILS_VERSION=1.2 modules03:24
the_watchtowervbgunz, I know the hardware is good  tried k3b  Nautilus  and  gnomebaker03:24
Wipe-Out/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-8-386/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 11: gcc-3.4: command not found03:24
Wipe-Out/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-8-386/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 12: gcc-3.4: command not found03:24
Wipe-Outmake[2] : gcc-3.4: Command not found03:24
kemikWipe-Out:  DONT PASTE IN HERE03:24
Wipe-Outmake[2] : Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-8-386'03:24
umberleighhey, can anyone recommend a mass-tagging program for music files that uses musicbrainz?03:24
Wipe-Out  CC [M]   /home/subzero/ndiswrapper-1.3rc1/driver/hal.o03:24
seliniumWipe-Out, DONT PASTE IN HERE03:24
Wipe-Out/bin/sh: gcc-3.4: command not found03:24
kemikWipe-Out:  read topic03:24
vbgunzkemik, Nautilus has been acting horribly today after an update... trust me, I got to the address in firefox in one shot... I try nautilus and am being treated as if I am a dummy...03:24
Wipe-Outmake[3] : *** [/home/subzero/ndiswrapper-1.3rc1/driver/hal.o]  Error 12703:24
Wipe-Outmake[2] : *** [_module_/home/subzero/ndiswrapper-1.3rc1/driver]  Error 203:24
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Wipe-Outmake[2] : Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-8-386'03:24
Wipe-Outmake[1] : *** [default]  Error 203:24
Wipe-Outmake[1] : Leaving directory `/home/subzero/ndiswrapper-1.3rc1/driver'03:24
kemikmoron03:24
Wipe-Outmake: *** [install]  Error 203:24
Wipe-Outsubzero@Boss:~/ndiswrapper-1.3rc1$03:24
seliniumWipe-Out, DONT PASTE IN HERE03:24
Wipe-Outdoes anybody know what to do here with error203:24
seliniumWipe-Out, DONT PASTE IN HERE03:24
Wipe-Outsorry03:24
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selinium!pastebin03:24
ubotuI guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl03:24
Wipe-Outoi i said i was sorry03:24
kemikWipe-Out:  make a habit of *reading topics*03:24
mjrDagaZ, madwifi comes in hoary by default, and yes, it works for me. It's in the linux-restricted-modules package corresponding to your kernel.03:25
the_watchtowerWipe-Out, can you open a seperate message tab03:25
seliniumWipe-Out, If any of the ops were looking you would have been booted03:25
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vbgunzthe_watchtower: sorry, I cannot use Nautilus to browse your FTP site... it's not working for me :(03:25
Wipe-Outi know i was wrong no lay of it please03:25
DagaZmjr: It finds the card in the device-manager but it doesn't show in the network03:25
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DagaZmjr: it used to work for me too until I reinstalled the machine the other day..03:26
Wipe-Outwhat do you mean watchtower?03:26
kemikWipe-Out:  a guess is you need "build-essential" and "linux-headers-$(uname -r)"03:26
the_watchtowervbgunz, my problem is i can't go out and back in through my fire wall03:26
vbgunzWipe-Out: next time paste the entire encyclopedia Britannica please... I need a copy :P03:26
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seliniumWipe-Out, Not attacking you, just trying to let you know.03:26
selinium:)03:26
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Wipe-Outi know allready03:26
dabaRhah03:27
Wipe-Outi might be blond but i'm not stupid... not smart eighter03:27
the_watchtowervbgunz, maybe I can test locally from another machine on the network  --  they are win xp03:27
dabaRWipe-Out: are you frustrated?03:27
Wipe-Outhell yes03:27
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dabaRI can tell:) its ok, it will either work, or not.03:27
Wipe-Outcan;t seem to get the ndis wrapper installed03:28
dabaRwhat have you followed?03:28
vbgunzthe_watchtower: I am going to log out of Ubuntu in a while and log into Windows XP in a bit03:28
kemikWipe-Out:  read what i wrote ??03:28
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benkong2is anyone aware of a fix for dangling symlinks to openoffice2 man pages? I get a cron error about "/etc/cron.daily/man-db:03:28
benkong2mandb: warning: /usr/share/man/man1/ooffice2.1.gz is a dangling symlink"03:28
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vbgunzim sending you a private message03:28
hutgyrrif im using a GUI, does that automount a cd and if so, to where?03:28
kemik!tell Wipe-Out about ndiswrapper03:28
the_watchtowervbgunz,  you got any idea why my burner doesn't work03:28
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umberleighhey, can anyone recommend a mass-tagging program for music files that uses musicbrainz?03:28
kemikumberleigh:  easytag03:29
muep!tell muep about ubuntu03:29
the_watchtowervbgunz,   yea I'm going over to the other machine too03:29
Wipe-Outkemik i did that allready03:29
kemikumberleigh:  oh. musicbrainz? dunno what that is.. easytag is for mp303:29
kemikWipe-Out:  follow the link from ubotu03:29
Wipe-Outnow where's that margarita03:29
vbgunzthe_watchtower: no idea... I made only one burn and that was through drag and drop through Nautilus03:29
wickedpuppyanyone knows how to get into phpmyadmin after installing ?03:29
wickedpuppyits not in my var/www03:29
dabaRWipe-Out: you need to tell us that, otherwise, we cant know what to tell you to do. What did you do so far?03:29
Wipe-Outkemik: what link?03:30
vbgunzthe_watchtower: put me on your buddy list for private chat03:30
kemikWipe-Out:  in pm from ubotu03:30
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Wipe-Outd'oh new at mIRC as well i feel so n00bish03:31
dabaRjust learn03:32
DarkOriginHey people, would I be able to install the preview of 5.10 (Colony 5) and then update it to the final once it arrives ?03:32
HobbseeDarkOrigin: yes, that's the idea03:32
dabaRDarkOrigin: that would be the idea.03:32
DarkOriginI mean, it's just packages right, nothing major underlying thingy?03:32
nerpDarkOrigin, yes03:32
DarkOrigingoodie03:32
deFryskDarkOrigin, that is the idea ;p03:32
benkong2wickedpuppy; I did a www/myserver.org/phpadmin03:32
DarkOriginso, it's the idea that I can update later? :)03:32
DarkOriginhehe, thanks guys/girls.03:32
nerpDarkOrigin, yes, easily03:32
benkong2wickedpuppy; sorry that's www.yourserver.org/phpmyadmin03:32
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deFryskDarkOrigin, thats is also an idea but the idea it that it can be done now too03:33
Jack_Bhey guys03:33
benkong2anyone know how to fix this? "mandb: warning: /usr/share/man/man1/ooffice2.1.gz is a dangling symlink"03:33
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Jack_Bdo you know where i can get w32codecs? it seems that backports has removed it due to legality problems03:33
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alisherwww.google.com03:34
nerp!w3203:34
dabaRtrue03:34
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, nerp03:34
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nerp!win3203:34
ubotuNo idea, nerp03:34
az[a] zelanyone know the best place to get star trek stuff, that ship internationally? (I'm looking at starstore.com atm)03:34
nerp!win32codec03:34
ubotunerp: Syntax error in line 103:34
az[a] zelsorry wrong channel03:34
Wipe-Outguys i need ndis to work other wise no i-net on linux :(03:34
dabaR:)03:34
Wipe-Outi want to get rid of windows so badly :s03:34
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dabaRWipe-Out: you need to tell us what you have tried. in one post. so we know what to do.03:35
alishermaybe "ubuntu w32codecs"03:35
wrabbit01Yay! It all works now.  I've just finished installing ubuntu and it rules.  Maybe one day I won't have to run dual boot with XP.03:35
Jack_Bi've gotten rid of XP altogether, never again will i touch it03:35
Wipe-Outwell i installed make,build-essential and gcc and i'm still getting Error 2 when i try to do sudo make03:35
wrabbit01So cheers to those that pointed me in the right direction earlier.03:36
sudonimwrabbit01: install VMware then you can run windows if u need to03:36
alishergood approach, since i installed ubuntu 6mths ago, no a single win boot03:36
dabaRalisher: I always go with nerim w32 codecs03:36
wrabbit01via Ubuntu sudonim?03:36
dabaRor, marillat rathert. thje w32 codedcs packagfe is the same03:36
alisherme too, marillat one03:36
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groovehunterhi all03:37
Wipe-Outwho works with ndiswrapper?03:37
Jack_Bhow powerful is python when compared to other programming languages and what is it used mainly for?03:37
dabaRWipe-Out: are you following a instructions document of some sort?03:37
dabaRan03:37
groovehunterdid a regular 5.04 install, now i have gnome desktop, i just want konqueror, but cant find it in synaptic03:37
Jack_Blike can you actually make a game using python?03:37
nerpJack_B, moderatley powerfull but becoming defunct and useless with newer technologies03:38
wrabbit01As far as I know, it's basically java with a hint of C++ with perks.  Or so I've been told.03:38
sudonimwrabbit: there is no package for it in synaptic. You can download from tucows: http://www.tucows.com/get/397828_14741203:38
alisherwhat for konqueror in gnome?03:38
groovehuntercould you tell me the pkg name?03:38
butcherbirdJack_B, yes03:38
Jack_Bnerp: more powerful than say, C++?03:38
alisherit will install lot of KDE stuff you dont need03:38
nerpnot even close03:38
sudonimwrabbit and then I believe if you look hard enough there is a serial number online for it03:38
Jack_Bok03:38
wrabbit01Cheers sudonim, I'll look into it.  One step at a time though eh. ;)  I'm as newbie as they come.03:38
Sonderbladewill ubuntu 5.10 include gnome 2.12?03:38
dabaRJack_B: most of gnome I believe is in python. it is used much for guis...go read somewhere, this is not a good place.03:38
nerpSonderblade, it does03:38
Jack_Bdabar: roger that03:39
SonderbladedabaR: gnome is mostly c03:39
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dabaRthere is a #python03:39
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alisher"konqueror"03:39
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dabaRSonderblade: the guis?03:39
butcherbird#python not very active mostly03:39
Sonderbladenerp: thanks03:39
nerpbeing a fluxbox user religiously i'm surprised to be using gnome03:39
sudonimwrabbit01: it is definitely not the next step if you've never installed linux before, but it definitely works in ubuntu and there are some good instructions on how to do it03:39
Wipe-OutdabaR: can you help me?03:39
nerpi've used flux for like 3-4 years now03:39
groovehuntermy 2nd question: I assume openssh-server is installed by default isnt it?03:40
SonderbladedabaR: nothing of the gnome core is python, but many gnome apps are coded in python03:40
dabaRWipe-Out: likely not. what document are you following for instructions?03:40
butcherbirdgroovehunter, you have to apt-get openssh-server03:40
groovehunterhow can i start it? i am used to init script in /etc/init.d03:40
dabaRSonderblade: thats what I mean, the adduser gui, and what not.03:40
Wipe-Outjust some how to form a dutch site03:40
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wrabbit01sudonim:  I'll get to it eventually. Hopefully, in the coming months I'll have no use for XP.  I'll just need to run specific programs.  3DS Max etc for Uni.03:40
limguohong91I cannot play .wma file on totem player , it needs plugin what shoudl i do?03:40
nerpgroovehunter, sshd or service sshd start03:41
Jack_Bget w32codecs03:41
groovehunterbutcherbird, i see.  just curious: why isnt it installed? it's  an important tool right?03:41
SonderbladedabaR: that app is probably ubuntu specific03:41
nerpgroovehunter, do you want the client or the daemon?03:41
limguohong91w32codecs?03:41
wrabbit01I play the odd game now and then aswell but I've heard that wine handles that well03:41
Jack_Bget them here: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt03:41
dabaRWipe-Out: look at the official ndiswrapper howto from the wiki. the wiki is wiki.ubuntu.com and it has a search function, and you should search for ndiswrapper03:41
limguohong91Thanks :)03:41
Jack_Bnp limguo03:41
butcherbirdgroovehunter, ubuntu by default tends to just install desktop end stuff.03:41
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groovehunterbutcherbird, i see03:42
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butcherbirdgroovehunter, you have the clients but not server apps03:42
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wrabbit01356 updates takes a while to dl and install. :P03:42
Wipe-OutdabaR: thx i'll hope this works, it's doing my head in03:43
dabaRSonderblade: you are right, I expressed myself wrongly. I meant that most of the apps that are partt of the ubuntu desktop, the ones under system>admin, and so are in python, thanks.03:43
larsrohdinhi, does anyone know a "time" program... a clock, that can show several timezones at the same time?03:43
dabaRWipe-Out: just give it time.03:43
alisherwrabbit01: have a cup of coffee ... ot two;)03:43
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aitorhi03:44
cantrel29i am running ubuntu on vmware and it seems to be running with a screenresolution of 600x800 with no other options. how do I run x config?03:44
wrabbit01alisher: Already put the kettle on. ;P03:44
groovehunternerp, both, but daemon is more important. what's the clients pkg name? openssh i guess?03:44
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nerpgroovehunter, opensynaptic and search for openssh03:45
JonnyRoIs there any way to record the output of an rdesktop session?03:45
nerpit'll list both03:45
aitorI'm trying to play matroska video files.03:45
nerpselect, dl and you're set03:45
dabaRcantrel29: is it that yo want a higher resolution?03:45
cantrel29dabaR: yes03:45
nerpopen synaptic, rather03:45
aitorIn mkv homepage, advice use mplayer03:45
alisheraitor: does it work??03:45
aitorno03:45
aitori haven soud03:46
aitori haven sound03:46
alisherwhich player do u use?03:46
Jack_Bso how should i go about installing w32codecs.deb?03:46
dabaRcantrel29: the configuration of the xserver is done so that you run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. it may not fix this. that is why you should follow what ubotu will send you in private.03:46
aitormplayer03:46
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aitorvlc nothing03:46
alisherI think gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg03:46
aitortotem-xine only sound no video03:46
alishersupports this03:46
alisherbut not sure if mplayer uses it03:47
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dabaRJack_B: .deb files are installed as so: sudo dpkg -i file.deb, enter03:47
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Jack_Bok03:47
Wipe-Outok brb i guess gonna try it again03:48
aitorusing ffplay, the media player of ffmpeg03:48
dabaRJack_B: this is ina  terminal, and you have to browse to the folder the file is in, or include the appropriate file path...like, sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/downloadFolder/file.deb03:48
Jack_Bthanks dabaR03:48
dabaRaitor: do you have sound at all on your computer?03:48
aitori have no sound03:48
aitoryes03:49
nerpaitor, master volume on?03:49
aitorof course03:49
dabaRat all on the computer? eevn when you are logging in, there are no sounds?03:49
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nerperr03:49
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aitorKernel: Linux Nx5000 2.6.12-9-686 #1 Thu Sep 22 20:33:15 UTC 2005 i68603:50
aitorConfig options: 003:50
aitorInstalled drivers:03:50
aitorType 10: ALSA emulation03:50
aitorCard config:03:50
aitorIntel 82801DB-ICH4 with AD1981B at 0x90600000, irq 1703:50
aitorAudio devices:03:50
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aitor0: Intel 82801DB-ICH4 (DUPLEX)03:50
aitorSynth devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG03:50
aitorMidi devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG03:50
aitorTimers:03:50
aitor7: system timer03:50
aitorMixers:03:50
aitor0: Analog Devices AD1981B03:50
aitorummm, there is sound03:50
dabaRaitor: we need you to not paste any more in the channel. Please use the proper pasting methods03:50
aitorin mplayer i get a sound, but is only noise03:51
dabaRso, you have sound coming out the speakers?03:51
aitorok, sorry03:51
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Jack_BdabaR, after installing w32codecs, will Mplayer play wma's automatically?03:51
aitoryes03:51
dabaRJack_B: afaik03:51
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Jack_BdabaR, well it doesn't seem to be working for me03:52
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aitori have sound, i use mplayer, vlc and all players listed after03:52
dabaRJack_B: get a whip.03:52
dabaRaitor: well, what is the file name?03:52
Jack_Bhehehe ok03:52
dabaRor at l;east extension.03:52
conbHi, do you need to pass the kernel any special arguments to get it to resume after a suspend to disk?03:52
aitorSwordfish.mkv03:52
dabaRJack_B: thats what ppl say when yopu tell them: It's not working.03:53
groovehunterok thx guys for now nerp butcherbird , i hope my father will manage that on his own hehe (it's his box), cya!03:53
dabaRaitor: you know this file is possible to play?03:53
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nerpnp03:53
aitori have another file03:54
aitorand the same results03:54
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dabaRaitor: what do you have installed? the ubuntu mplayer from universe?03:54
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fredforfaenanyone here that has experience with burning dvds faster than 6x?03:55
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aitoryes, breezy repository, im testing the colony 503:55
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Serv|nokiahello can somebody help me whit that: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2554 ?03:55
dabaRServ|nokia: its supposed to be an executable?03:56
Serv|nokiayes03:56
dabaRaitor: ok, well, should have told me.03:56
Serv|nokiawhit that program i can download files what i need for gameserver03:56
dabaRaitor: so I can say, I dont feel like doing this03:56
Serv|nokia./steam -command update -game cstrike -dir /home/oxid03:56
fredforfaenanyone?03:56
Serv|nokiabut i cant get it run03:56
dabaRServ|nokia: well...you will then need to make it executable.03:56
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dabaRServ|nokia: chmod +x steam03:57
Serv|nokiayesterday it was working for about 1h?03:57
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jMCgmorning03:57
Serv|nokiadabaR i has set chmod +x03:57
aitorwhat?03:57
Serv|nokiai downloaded some ia32-lib something like that03:57
Serv|nokiathen i get it work and now it dosent work again03:57
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alishergruessgott03:57
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syntaxxi formatted my xp. and my boot loader is gone.. is there a way that i can boot my linux or is there any smaller files that i need to download if i loss my cd?03:57
dabaRServ|nokia: look at your ls, it clearly shows the file is not executable, along with showing root is the owner and group for the file.03:58
Serv|nokiadabaR: i user 64bit system ubuntu03:58
dabaR-rw-r--r--   1 root  root  7836330 2005-08-23 00:32 steam03:58
dabaRdoes anyone agree with him that the file is executable?03:58
Serv|nokiadabaR: its old whit that line now its: -rwxr-xr-x   1 root   root    7640 2005-04-08 00:04 steam03:58
jMCguhm.. im searching for a package, which as far as i know only ubuntu has: it's for intel chipset laptops, for switching between the modes of the gfx card03:58
nerpno03:58
OutlierDoes anyone know where you set the default video app in firefox / gnome / hoary ? The system keeps trying to use totem.03:58
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nerpsudo chown user:user file03:59
Serv|nokiawhen i type sh steam -> steam: steam: cannot execute binary file03:59
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nerpthen chmod a+x file03:59
Serv|nokiawhen i type ./steam -> Segmentation fault03:59
Pickle_Weasel..steam works without wine/cedega? =O03:59
Serv|nokiawine/cedega?04:00
dabaRis steam a windows application?04:00
snorksyes04:00
nerpwine and cedega are emulators, cedega is the next gen of wine04:00
gorillaPickle_Weasel, no it doesn't... Serv|nokia: you need to install win or cedega which are emulators.04:00
snorksWine Is Not an Emulator04:00
Serv|nokiasudo apt-get install cedega ?04:00
Pickle_Weaselif he's speaking of the steam i think he is, then steam is an updates for windows games like counter-strike and half life04:01
dabaRno, cedega cost $, wine is in universe.04:01
nerpno, cedega isn't free04:01
Serv|nokiaouly shit04:01
abdada_i am having trouble starting xwindows on my acer travelmate. it appears the vide may be setup incorrectly.  does anyone have any experience with this?04:01
nerpwine you can get for free04:01
Serv|nokiai get it work04:01
Serv|nokia:d04:01
Serv|nokiai most use non-root04:01
Serv|nokiauser04:01
dabaRheh04:01
Serv|nokiadam it04:01
Serv|nokiaso little probla m04:02
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dabaRabdada_: what graphics card?04:02
Serv|nokiaand i was thinking about it 15h04:02
Serv|nokia:(04:02
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dabaRServ|nokia: good.04:02
Serv|nokiayeah :d04:02
nerpbah, i'm in the process of restoring my music libraries, this is going to take all day04:02
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Serv|nokiahow stupyd can i be04:02
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dabaRServ|nokia: not stupid, just not following the ubuntu way of sudo:P04:04
Pickle_Weaselsudo is such a pain sometimes -_-04:04
Serv|nokiadabaR: mby yes i was using last time gentoo04:04
abdada_dabaR: ATI radeon x70004:04
Serv|nokiabut the ubuntu look better for my eyes04:04
Serv|nokia:p04:04
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nerpPickle_Weasel, why?04:05
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Pickle_Weaselbecause you can't log in as root, this causes a few problems which aren't impossible to fix, but take longer =\04:05
Pickle_Weaselsuch as copying files, or deleting files, etc...you either have to do it through console, or sudo nautilus04:06
havocPickle_Weasel: you can log in as root, just set a root passwd04:06
Pickle_Weasel>.>04:06
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nerpPickle_Weasel, add a line to your sudoers file to not require password, just sudo command..04:06
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brainballyou dont even have to set a root password just do a sudo su04:07
havocbrainball: heh, that too :)04:07
havocPickle_Weasel: see, many options :)04:07
Pickle_Weaseli've yet to switch over to ubuntu, i just can't leave the familiarity of windows behind quite yet >.>04:08
rosros_...04:08
Pickle_Weaselhave a dual boot set up, learning more with every login04:08
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HobbseePickle_Weasel: are you finding that windows annoys you each time you go there as well?04:09
Pickle_Weaseloh god yes >.>04:09
nerpi haven't used windows in years, unless i'm at a friends house or whatever04:09
nerpit's incredibly annoying04:09
Pickle_Weaselafter a linux session i log into windows and find myself screaming at the PC, something like "OPEN!" or "COME ON!, FASTER!"04:10
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Hobbseeit is...it's not too bad for gaming though04:10
HobbseeLOL04:10
Hobbseeor "dont crash the entire OS with one program!"04:10
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jack-question..is there any way to get the gnome-vfs stuff working in a terminal too?04:10
nerpmost of the time that I come in contact with windows it's to fix peoples spyware, software or hardware probs04:10
Pickle_Weaselaye, that's another thing, the games i play work in linux, for the most part, i got doom III working, and UT2k404:10
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Hobbseeor "you mean to say that you cant do at least 3 things at once?"04:10
havocor at least keep a win32 workstation arround04:10
Pickle_Weaselas soon as i get CSS working i will have no reason for windows04:10
Pickle_Weaselbut i've yet to do that04:10
Jack_Bgaming on linux is dismal04:10
Pickle_Weaselas cedega and wine tend to..not work04:10
Jack_Byou need wine for most04:11
havocbah, games04:11
brainballmore and more starts to work with cedega though04:11
Hobbseesims 2 doesnt work on linux...otherwise i'd be windows free04:11
jack-vmware is nicer btw04:11
Ngnot for games04:11
Hobbseedoesnt work with cedega either, apparently04:11
havocbrainball: what is cedega?04:11
Ngvmware is useless for games04:11
Hobbsee!cedega04:11
ubotuhelp for cedega is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/index.php?title=Main_Page04:11
NgCS:S works in cedega though and that's all that matters ;)04:11
jack-oh04:11
brainballwww.transgaming.com04:11
Hobbseelol04:11
nerpi'd like to see novalogic games like black hawk down and joint ops work with linux, i'd be super happy then04:12
Hobbseeall the first person shooters work, yeah04:12
havocah, the new WineX?04:12
Pickle_Weasellast week i got DSL, and was finally able to get linux online, so i thought "alright! let's get this going"04:12
Hobbseepity i dont play them most of the time!04:12
nerpheck i might even go buy a new box just because04:12
nerphehe04:12
Pickle_Weaseland i find myISP banned from this channel..04:12
FalstiusI'm trying to find some good hardware monitoring software for ubuntu (along the lines of speedfan) ... any suggestions? I've got an nforce4 board.04:12
jjazzhavoc:  Cedega is Wine plus some proprietary code that tries to make certain games work on Linux boxes.04:12
Pickle_Weaselbecause some asshole got it banned apparently =\04:12
havocFalstius: lm-sensors04:12
havocjjazz: cool04:12
Hobbseei hate that, how they ban by isp04:12
Pickle_Weaselso now i have a lot of things going in windows which i can't drop and go to linux, otherwise i'd be in ubuntu right now04:12
Hobbseeseems a bit silly04:12
Hobbseewhat things keep you there?04:12
Falstiushavoc, other than lm-senors.  Or atleast a better front-end for it04:12
Pickle_Weaselwell Hobbsee, otherwise the ban can be evaded04:12
jjazzhavoc:  Yes.  They also make crossover office, which is the same thing for Windows productivity apps, like Word, Excel and Outlook.04:12
Hobbseetrue04:13
havocjjazz: yeah, I just hadn't heard of cedega before04:13
Pickle_Weaseli'm willing to take an undeserved week ban for the safety of the channel04:13
Hobbseetrue04:13
Hobbseethe advantages of being in australia - hardly anyone else uses this isp, even though it's common here04:13
ryanakcais it possible to install php5 instead and have the instructions of this howto still working: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_5.04_p5 ?04:14
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Pickle_Weaseli have a few minor problems with linux...for example i've gotten accustomed to running pretty much everything through irc04:14
Pickle_Weaselopening websites and such04:14
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Pickle_Weasel/google, /url http://www...etc04:14
jack-so? use irssi04:15
jack-all you want is there04:15
nerpindeed04:15
Pickle_Weaseli set that up in XChat, but with my limited programming skills i messed it up somehow04:15
jack-xchat too btw04:15
nerpminus gui04:15
Pickle_Weaseland i can open one firefox window at a time04:15
havocPickle_Weasel: xchat is better in linux04:15
Jack_Bwhat's the command to list process ids?04:15
jack-ps04:15
StrogMmmm irssi04:15
havocJack_B: ps04:15
Pickle_Weaselhavoc, i haven't tried it anywhere but linux04:15
Jack_Bk04:15
Pickle_Weaseli want my mIRC in linux though =(04:15
jack-lol04:15
havocah04:15
Pickle_Weaseli know mIRC well, and i have it doing what i want04:15
jack-go back to windows, dude ;)04:15
brainballpff who needs mirc04:16
nerpmIRC is completely annoying04:16
Pickle_Weaseli don't see how mIRC is annoying =\04:16
havocxchat is better (btu I use irssi)04:16
Falstiuspeople who use mIRC tend to be annoying though ...04:17
Pickle_Weaselbah, bittorrent in linux annoys me04:17
nerphavoc, I disagree, irssi is much more powerful, less buggy and faster04:17
Pickle_Weaselit seems to continue my download, i need to find the .torrent file each time04:17
jack-yeah falstius, its only 80% of irc04:17
havocnerp: I meant xchat is better than mIRC04:17
jack-so i guess you're right :P04:17
nerpoh, yes agreed there04:17
Falstiusjack-: atleast 80% of irc is annoying.04:17
jack-just what i'm saying ;)04:17
havoctoo bad irssi is an all but dead project04:17
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AnswerHello #ubuntu04:18
jack-havoc, huh04:18
nerphavoc, irssi is NOT dead04:18
jack-you see any need for further improvements? i dont04:18
ryanakcaI know there is libapache-mod-php5.0, but where do I get it for libapache2? installed with apt04:18
havocnerp: when was the last release?04:18
jack-its damn stable and has shitloads of features, i wasnt missing anything yet04:18
AnswerQuestion: from the LiveCD, how can I set a password or su root ?04:18
nerpsmall additions are made04:18
nerpthey're working on a RC now04:18
dabaRAnswer: why would you want to?04:18
jack-answer, you dont04:18
Pickle_Weaseli need to figure out how to launch firefox with a /command in XChat04:18
jack-but you could try sudo su -04:19
Pickle_Weaselmore than one instance of firefox, that is04:19
havocjack-: yes, there is need, there are many bugs that have been fixed in the daily builds, but no release that gets packaged in distros04:19
AnswerdabaR: I need to run some things as root, not sudo04:19
Answerjack-: Thanks, "sudo su -"04:19
dabaRsudo bash works too.04:19
alisherPickle: /url04:19
jjazzPickle_Weasel:  check /tmp.  The .torrent might be there.04:19
Pickle_Weaselthat's not a valid XChat command =\04:19
mikhail^why does the wiki take too long to update?04:19
Falstiusif you eject from the GUI there needs to be something that notifies people when a usb device is finished unmounting04:19
Pickle_Weaseljjazz, that's not a problem, i adapted and now save the .torrents to my desktop, it just annoys me that i can't open bittorrent and it continue my downloads by itself04:20
Pickle_Weasellike it does in windows04:20
ryanakcaanyone have an idea on how I could install libapache2-mod-php5.0 with apt? Will libapache-mod-php5 work on apache2?04:20
Serv|nokiahow to get work php4 and mysql?04:21
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Serv|nokiamysql is working but php module mysql04:21
alisherPickle_Weasel: does bittornado do it?04:21
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Pickle_Weaseli don't know, i've never used anything but bittorrent04:21
FalstiusPickle_Weasel: azureus is nice (and the same in windows and linux)04:22
nerpbittornado seems to be a bit more forgiving04:22
Pickle_Weaselazureus seems a bit too..i don't know, too many bells and whistles04:22
Pickle_Weaseli tried it once in windows and removed it because there was no reason for it04:22
Pickle_Weaselsince bittorrent worked fine04:22
Pickle_Weaselbut i should try it in ubuntu04:22
Pickle_Weaseli'll be messing with ubuntu later today when my downloads finish in..6 hours >.>04:23
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Falstiusit seems to be removed for AMD64 archs though :(04:23
ThJhi, is joe available for ubuntu? can't seem to find it with apt-get/apt-cache04:23
Serv|nokiadabaR: E: Couldn't find package php4-mysql04:24
Pickle_WeaselAMD64 is still x86..04:24
Pickle_Weaseljust with 64bit extensions04:24
Pickle_Weaselyou can run an i386 kernel on AMD6404:24
alisherjoe is in Universe or Multiverse04:24
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ThJalisher: ah, so i just uncomment those?04:24
Falstiusyeah, but I'm not04:24
alisheryes04:24
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Pickle_Weaselif you decide to stray from i386, then learn to compile =P04:25
alisherUniverse04:25
ThJthat wroked :)04:25
ThJthanks guys04:25
ThJlol... it -worked-04:25
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FalstiusI know how to compile, but thats not the point04:26
ThJfanskapet? hahah... i'm not going to say what that is in norwegian.04:26
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Falstiusazureus is a pain to compile anyway04:26
gorillaPickle_Weasel, an i386 kernel on a amd64 sounds terrible :-/04:26
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Pickle_Weaselgorilla, but it works!04:26
ThJwell, bye04:26
gorillaPickle_Weasel, true :-)04:26
jim_uki am trying to install ubuntu on a old laptop before installing it on my desktop. When i try to load the disk it enters low memory mode and prompts me to create a swap space asap. How do i go about doing this so i can install it on my machine?04:27
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nerpjim_uk, how old is the laptop, how much mem?04:27
Pickle_Weaselum, the installer is usually pretty self-explanatory04:27
Pickle_Weasel=\04:27
sproingiegorilla: if you want to run games, you're going to want an i386 kernel04:27
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sproingiegorilla: since you won't get any 3d accel in emulation04:28
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Falstiusjim, do you know what swap space is?04:28
gorillasproingie, depends on the game that you are wanting to run ;-)04:28
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Pickle_Weaselaye, the PC game market is kind of in a dry season right now04:29
jim_uknot really i think it is a partition of the hard drive used to act like extra mem04:29
Pickle_Weaselbut CSS keeps me entertained04:29
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sproingiei'm always a couple years behind in games anyway.  cheaper that way04:29
Pickle_Weaseli just need CSS working in ibuntu >.>04:29
Pickle_Weaselhaha, cheaper indeed04:29
kentIs there any free player/codec for Ubuntu breezy that will let me play realaudio?04:29
fanskapetdid i get a quote as quit-message!?04:29
Pickle_Weaselthe steam account i use is my pal's04:29
hutgyrrhow can I find out the group ID of a file or folder?04:29
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havochutgyrr: ls04:30
Pickle_Weaseli just started playing CSS last week, he played a lot but now he's on tour with his band, so i offered to keep it warm for him04:30
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havochutgyrr: ls -la <dir/file>04:30
AnswerQuestion: alternative to GAIM for instant messaging?04:30
Ngkent: mplayer/ffmpeg probably can, or you can install the official linux Real Player client04:30
alisherkent: totem-xine04:31
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Pickle_Weaselgxine is a pretty spiffy player04:31
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havochutgyrr: sorry, 'ls -ln <dir/file>' for numeric IDs04:31
hutgyrrso lets say it says root in the third column and root in the fourth. Does this mean root is group and owner?04:31
Pickle_Weaseldoes pretty much anything if you set it up right04:31
kentNg, realplayer is not free :(04:31
hutgyrroh yeah04:31
hutgyrrget it now04:31
havochutgyrr: yes04:32
Falstiusjim_uk: exactly, you need to create a partition for it when you install ubuntu04:32
Ngkent: they do a free (as in beer) player, but yeah it;'s not Free (as in speech)04:32
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kentalindeman, I tried totem-xine and it did not work. I dont want to install the w32codecs, since they are probably ilegal.. :(04:32
Falstiusyou can create it later, but then you need to have unpartitioned space on the hd.04:32
havochutgyrr: 'man ls' for more options04:32
doogluswhere do you guys get free beer?04:32
Pickle_Weasel!RestrictedFormats04:32
ubotuhmm... restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'04:32
kentalisher, I tried totem-xine and it did not work. I dont want to install the w32codecs, since they are probably ilegal.. :(04:32
Answeralternative to gaim ?04:32
hutgyrrhow can I change a folder and all files in it too a new group. chgrp ?04:32
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nerpkent, they are not illegal04:32
Falstiusdooglus: my uncles.04:32
Pickle_Weasel^look at what ubotu said >.>04:32
havochutgyrr: yes04:32
dooglusdo you mean the recipe for making beer is free?04:32
nerpdooglus, there is opensource beer now04:33
jack-hutgyrr: chown04:33
jim_ukI think i need to create it before i try to install ubuntu04:33
Pickle_Weaselif you have the right repository all you need to do is apt-get install realplayer04:33
hutgyrrchown dirname and then the number, is it?04:33
Pickle_Weaselsimple as can be04:33
gorillanerp, yes the beer is free but the bottle is not :-)04:33
dooglusPickle_Weasel: doesn't realplayer suck though?04:33
alisheris it illegal, if you have a licensed WinXP to install w32codecs?04:33
Pickle_Weaselindeed it does!04:33
cccanyone familiar with pure-ftpd and care to help me out?04:33
havochutgyrr: chown -R user.group dir04:33
jim_ukdo i just run fdisk then create an extended partition?04:33
nerpalisher, no04:33
Pickle_Weaselwhich is why i do not use it, i am just trying to help someone who does04:33
alisherkent: you have XP, right?>04:34
dooglusfriends don't let friends install realplayer04:34
jack-havoc: wrong, should be user:group04:34
Pickle_Weaseldooglus, right you are04:34
kentalisher, No, I run Ubuntu, I dont have windows.04:34
havocjack-: user.group is what I always use and it works04:34
jack-weirdness04:34
jack-ok04:34
alisherthen it may be illegal for you04:35
Falstiusjim_uk: you can do it in the installer, just create a 500 mb partition and choose the swap format.04:35
havocjack-: it probably recognizes many seperators04:35
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Pickle_Weaselor you can just wipe everything, or resize an existing partition and tell it to "automatically redistribute free space"04:35
jack-looks like it :)04:35
Falstiushavoc: the : is correct, the others are "obselete"04:35
Falstiusbut it still supports 'em.04:36
havocFalstius: I figured it was something like that04:36
Falstiusyou can use a , too but it might yell at you.04:36
havoc':' is better anyway04:36
Pickle_Weaseli want my torrents to finish so i can boot into ubuntu ;_;04:36
havocPickle_Weasel: restart them in linux04:36
Pickle_Weaseli don't want to restart a 3 gig torrent that's at 96% >.>04:37
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Pickle_Weaseli just need to waste time04:37
jack-one of the drawbacks with p2p downloads..no resume :P04:37
Pickle_Weasel...?04:37
havocjack-: you can resume a torrent04:38
dooglusPickle_Weasel: you can resume torrents - no need to restart04:38
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Pickle_Weaselyou can resume!04:38
dooglusit's hard *not* to resume, in fact04:38
Pickle_Weaseldooglus, but it's a pain to get them to resume in linux04:38
havocdoh, I meant 'resume', not 'restart'04:38
Pickle_Weaseland dooglus, i was talking about this earlier04:38
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Pickle_Weaselin linux, bittorrent is gaying it up04:38
dooglusPickle_Weasel: it is?  why?  all you do is make sure the data is in place and it'll resume04:38
Pickle_Weaselit needs the .torrent file each time04:38
jack-ok, nice04:38
havocPickle_Weasel: you jsut restart the torrent and BT figures it out, no pain at all04:38
dooglusdid you just say "gaying it up"???04:38
Pickle_Weaselno >.>04:39
eliphas_in linux torrent works fine04:39
dooglusheh04:39
Pickle_Weaselyes the torrents work fine04:39
dooglusout of the two, I would say that Windows was the gayer operating system.04:39
Pickle_Weaselbut like i said earlier, i need the .torrent file to resume04:39
havocPickle_Weasel: of course you do04:39
havocso save the file04:39
eliphas_of course you do04:39
Pickle_Weaselwell, that's a bit frustrating04:40
havocjust save the file04:40
eliphas_why that's just normal04:40
Pickle_Weaselyou see, in windows, i open the .torrent once, and that's it! i'm done with it!04:40
Pickle_Weaselnext time i open bittorrent it's already in there, downloading04:40
Pickle_Weaselin linux it's a pain to open each .torrent every time when i have say..17 of them04:40
eliphas_no next time you open azureus or what ever04:40
eliphas_soft you use04:40
Pickle_Weaselas opposed to clicking one thing i need to click 1704:40
eliphas_you azureus or qtorrent04:41
eliphas_use04:41
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Pickle_Weaselbittorrent04:41
Pickle_Weaselor.. "gnometorrent"04:41
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eliphas_hopeless04:41
Pickle_Weaselme?04:42
Pickle_Weaselbecause i'm annoyed with having to do more work than needed?04:42
Pickle_Weaselthis makes me hopeless?04:42
Pickle_Weaseli fail to see the logic in that04:42
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alisherbittorrnado allows resuming, i guess04:45
alisherbittornado-gui04:45
Pickle_Weaseli've only tried bittorrent, i will try others today04:46
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alisherBitTornado is the next generation bittorrent client built on04:46
alisherthe original BitTorrent. It does04:46
alishereverything the original bittorrent does, plus more...04:46
Pickle_Weaselsounds spiffy04:46
alisheri tried bittornado-gui long time ago, but remember it supported resuming04:47
Pickle_Weaselit's all still bittornado04:47
Pickle_Weaselbittornado-gui is the interface04:48
Pickle_Weaselgives you pretty buttons to click =P04:48
Pickle_Weaselrather than typing it out in the terminal04:48
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alisherthey are all bittorent clients04:49
Pickle_Weaselanyway, i'm afk as of now04:49
Pickle_Weaseli know, yes04:49
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Pickle_Weaselafk >.> shower time04:49
alisheranyway, you just need to sudo apt-get install bittornado-gui04:49
alisherit will install backend automatically04:49
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alisherand all dependencies04:49
ZalborI don't have any sound in x-chat or KDE apps, while in gnome it works. I don't really care about KDE, but I need sound in xchat. They told me to try "killall esd" and it worked, but if I do this nothing else has sound. Any ideas?04:50
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hussamafter upgrading to breezy, /bin/lsmod.modutils is now a dead link, what should I do?04:50
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alisheror bittorent-gui04:51
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jack-how can i find out the connection specs of my ethernet card? 10/100mbit, duplex and stuff? in bsd, ifconfig tells..cant find anything in ubuntu's ifconfig output04:52
linuxmonkeyHas any one had anyproblems installing realplayer04:52
alisherwhich problem04:52
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linuxmonkeylike not launching once its installed04:52
Raptoidselamlar.04:53
alisherit is because of the sound server04:53
alisherSystem->Preferences->Sound04:54
alisherswitch off sounds for events04:54
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Jack_Bhow do i save a vi file?04:56
ElkOS:wq or ZZ04:56
Zalbor:w04:56
Jack_Bthanks04:57
Zalbor:wq is to quit right after saving04:57
ElkOSyehyeh04:57
ElkOS;)04:57
jack-how can i find out the connection specs of my ethernet card? 10/100mbit, duplex and stuff? in bsd, ifconfig tells..cant find anything in ubuntu's ifconfig output04:57
alisherlinuxmonkey: or you have to read this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5506904:57
jack-plz..any hint04:58
sproingiejack-: ifconfig eth004:59
ZalborI don't have any sound in x-chat or KDE apps, while in gnome it works. I don't really care about KDE, but I need sound in xchat. They told me to try "killall esd" and it worked, but if I do this nothing else has sound. Any ideas?04:59
Strogsproingie: That doesn't show speed, duplex, etc.04:59
jack-yep :<04:59
sproingiejack-: oddly enough, it doesnt tell me either.  what a bummer.  might be in dmesg04:59
Strogjack-: Those things can be set with ethtool05:00
sproingiei could swear i use it on another linux to get that info, must be ubuntu's version05:00
jack-not even in dmesg05:01
Strogsudo ethtool eth005:01
jack-ethtool? thx!05:01
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Strogjack-: which bsd?05:01
Strog:)05:01
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jack-darwin..05:02
jack-but you know what05:02
jack-ethtool eth0 says no data available05:02
jack-damn05:02
jim_ukcan any of you recommend another linux that will run on a laptop with low resources?05:02
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StrogYou did with with root priveleges, right?05:02
jack-sure05:02
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sproingiejim_uk: how low are we talking about here05:03
jack-what now..strog, is there anything else?05:03
StrogI'm hooked up via wireless but it tells me all the supported modes for my card. I'm on PPC but that shouldn't matter.05:03
jack-weirdness05:04
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YattaMaX[QUESTION]  :  how to modify the *boot procedure* of the Ubuntu Live CD ?05:04
YattaMaXI have to customizating the Ubuntu Live CD for a *blind* user, therefore I have to limit any question on boot (FIRST that X or GDM starting) .....carefully the screen resolution question on boot.         anyone can help me ?05:04
jim_uk2gb hd not sure on memory its a toshiba sattilite pro quite old05:04
meerkatjim_uk: any dist will do ... gentoo is cool if you would like to build something really slim, all depends on what you want to do.05:04
hutgyrrwhen using chown on a folder, lets say I want to change it to 777. What flag do I specicy to make sure that everything underneath it is 777 aswell?05:05
Strogjack-: Check the manpage. There's quite a few options for it. I'm used to BSD myself but ubuntu supports my powerbook better so I'll use what works. :)05:05
havochutgyrr: -R05:05
sproingiemeerkat: i wouldn't inflict the build times or space of gentoo on an old laptop05:05
Serv|nokiadabaR: E: Couldn't find package php4-mysql05:05
hutgyrrthanks05:05
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sproingiejim_uk: freebsd might be a good choice05:06
jim_uki have a look cheers05:06
meerkatsproingie: well there is binaries out there ... no need to build everything.05:06
sproingiemeerkat: if you need to customize it to slim it down, you probably will need to do a lot of building05:06
SmittysWorkingMorning all...  I just installed Ubuntu over a previous windows box.  I am a first time user.  I sucessfully installed and logged in, but Gnome isnt starting.  All I see is a blank brown screen, a pointer and no HD activity.05:06
meerkatsproingie: true.05:07
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nerpbah what should my mp3 files be chmodded to05:07
nerp644?05:07
BlissexSmittysWorking: try 'CTRL-ALT-F1'05:07
sproingiei still have a gentoo living in a chroot on this ubuntu box, using uclibc instead of glibc05:07
sproingienever really use it though05:07
SmittysWorkingCTRL-ALT-F1 brought me to a login prompt05:08
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linuxmonkeyalisher, thanx going to restart to see if it works, should i completely reboot or just restart x05:09
SmittysWorkingI logged in at the promt and I now see michael@Smitty-LAPTOP:~$05:09
sproingieisn't gnome supposed to have all kinds of accessability for blind users?05:09
gilvwhat's the difference betwen ubuntu and edubuntu ?05:09
sproingiegilv: edubuntu comes with more educational software05:10
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meerkatsproingie: heh, after days of compileing ... old jim_uk will have a fast dist ;)05:10
gilvsproingie: how can i install those softwares ?05:10
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meerkatsproingie: on gentoo that is ..05:11
BlissexSmittysWorking: what you need now is to generate a proper X (the GUI server) config, which evidently did not quite work when you installed.05:11
ogragilv, edubuntu is by default a single classroom thin client server environment05:11
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SmittysWorkingBlissex, could you walk me through that?05:11
gilvsproingie: what do you mean ?05:11
gilvogra05:11
BlissexSmittysWorking: I am looking at finding you a nice HOWTO in the Ubuntu Wiki05:11
ogragilv, but the CD has also a workstation option ... since it is developed inside ubuntu, you can install edubuntu-desktop on top of ubuntu to get a workstation setup05:11
Blissex!X1105:11
ubotuNot a clue, Blissex05:12
Blissex!xorg.conf05:12
ubotuBlissex: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?05:12
Blissex!X config05:12
ubotuBlissex: I give up, what is it?05:12
ph8gah05:12
ph8anyone installed the ATI proprietary drivers?05:12
sproingiegilv: i havent seen much difference between regular and edubuntu, but edubuntu is kind of new.  their website probably has more info05:12
ogragilv, btw, you can also join #edubuntu ;)05:12
SmittysWorkingBlissex, thank you so much in advance!05:13
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zone17Hi, is it just me or does this company site make firefox crash? http://www.cinciwebstyle.com/ in my case it crashes all the time, even sometimes freezes the entire desktop.05:13
zookoI upgraded a few packages -- gcc-4.0 related -- to breezy yesterday and my apache-ssl stopped working.05:14
zookoI guess I should try downgrading those back to hoary...05:14
Ngzone17: it's probably the stupid plugin they have ;)05:14
Slarti-yup, crashes firefox05:14
zone17ok thanks :-)05:14
ph8ah forget that question, can i dist-upgrade to breezy now or will that cause loads of problems?05:14
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boxerboy29mine didnt crash going to that site05:15
sproingieph8: if this is with respect to the ATI drivers, they work fine on breezy05:15
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Slarti-mine did05:15
zone17boxerboy29, what version do you have?05:15
sproingieph8: otherwise, depends on what you're running.  see zooko's problem for instance05:15
ph8can i dist-upgrade to breezy now or will that cause loads of problems?05:15
ph8i have an X30005:15
ph8128mb mobility radeon05:15
Slarti-1.0.7 here05:15
boxerboy291.0.7 here too05:15
ph8if it works fine on breezy i'm not gonna waste time messing around on hoary to get it going05:15
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Slarti-version from breezy05:15
ph8so can i get breezy?05:15
zone17Ok same here, mine crashes every time05:15
meerkatzone17: works fine ... seem like there is a little java applet embedded somewhere ...05:16
BlissexSmittysWorking: try to see if this looks good to you: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:16
sproingieph8: works fine for me, but mobility radeons are known to be a real pita with those drivers.  i have a plain jane 980005:16
ph8ok05:16
Slarti-probably java bombing out05:16
ph8probably best if i get breezy anyway?05:16
Slarti-takes firefox with it05:16
boxerboy29breezy seems to have most bugs worked out already but final release is in like 2 weeks05:16
ph8Is it just a case of changing hoary/ to breezy/ in my sources list?05:16
sproingieph8: it'll be a pain either way, may as well just do it once05:16
BlissexSmittysWorking: that should ask you a number of simple questions about your card and monitor.05:17
sproingieph8: change hoary to breezy, then apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade05:17
boxerboy29ph8: dist-upgrade would be easier05:17
SmittysWorkingok05:17
boxerboy29ohhhhhhhhh you have to do both05:17
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ph8ty05:17
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SmittysWorkingBlissex, when I created the machine, it didnt ask me for a password for the Superuser...05:18
SmittysWorkingJust for my own account05:18
BlissexSmittysWorking: but 'sudo' should just work.05:18
SmittysWorkingIt asked me for a password05:19
BlissexSmittysWorking: try the same password as the user...05:19
SmittysWorkingWqait...  im an idiot...  Didnt relogin!05:19
SmittysWorking*blush*05:19
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nerpit wont05:21
groovehunteronqueror: Depends: kdelibs4 (>= 4:3.4.0) but it is not going to be installed05:22
ph8are there extra sources for breezy?05:22
groovehunterhow can i "konquer" this situation?05:22
ph8Failed to fetch http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/breezy-backports/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found?05:22
nerpgroovehunter, apt-get build-deps konqueror05:23
boxerboy29ph8: get rid of back ports is what i was told for a month05:23
groovehunternerp, E: Invalid operation build-deps05:23
boxerboy29ph8: do you have universe sources set?05:23
nerpgroovehunter, apt-get build-dep konqueror05:24
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groovehunterE: Unable to find a source package for kdebase05:24
sproingiekdebase is a meta package05:24
groovehuntersources.list issue?05:24
nerpapt-get update05:25
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groovehunterok updated successfully , but still same error for build-dep05:26
ph8yes boxer05:26
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Hoxzerwhat would be good ftp client for ubuntu?05:26
zygishi, anyone have laptop Fn+sound buttons b0rked after yesterdays updates?05:26
sproingieHoxzer: i'm partial to konqueror's built in one05:27
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boxerboy29ph8: if you decide to keep the backports which is not recommended they need to be hoary not breezy05:28
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gerarconehi to all!05:28
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rafael2khi there05:28
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Hoxzerspro: built in?05:28
gerarconei have a question about C++ compiling in Linux05:28
gerarconei've used only Dev-C++ under Windows05:28
boxerboy29ph8: no back port for breezy yet. the sources can stay breezy but backports cant05:29
ph8k05:29
ph8no probs05:29
rafael2kanyone knows if is possible to commit translation patchs (pt_BR) for ubuntu breezy?05:29
groovehuntersproingie, what you say doesnt really help... i know what a metapkg is, but why cant apt-get handle my input05:29
SmittysWorkingBlissex:  Same problem.  I get to the Ubuntu splash screen, I log in and it accepts it.  But Im now looking at a brown screen with a pointer, no GUI.05:29
gerarconeand i'm wondering if writing a text-file and compiling it with gpp will be the same thing05:29
rafael2k<= ubuntu newbie05:29
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ph8SmittysWorking: new installation?05:29
SmittysWorkingYes, New Installation.05:29
ph8hmm05:30
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gerarconenobody uses cpp?05:30
boxerboy29smittysworking: that brown screen say ubuntu at top kinda relecting off screen?05:30
ph8unless this is a common thing i don't know about i'd hop to the terminal, run an update/upgrade and try a reboot05:30
ph8gerarcone: gcc?05:30
gerarconeph8, sorry05:30
BlissexSmittysWorking: you probably chose the ''emergency login''.05:30
sproingiegroovehunter: no one created a source package for the meta package with its own depends.  i'm not a big fan of how apt does sources05:30
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SmittysWorkingBoxerboy:  No.  Plain brown back ground with a pointer.05:30
Renskigerarcone: is that a yes?05:31
BlissexSmittysWorking: you should have said that you were able to log into the GUI.05:31
RenskiI use gcc05:31
SmittysWorkingIm sorry Blissex...05:31
gerarconeRenski, ok, do you ever used Dev-C++?05:31
Renskinope05:31
boxerboy29gcc and g++ should both compile c++ programs05:31
BlissexSmittysWorking: however, press 'CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE' and when the login happens again, there is a menu that allows you to choose the flavour of GUI.05:31
BlissexSmittysWorking: which choices does it display?05:31
RenskiI use gcc g++ and borland c++ bulder 605:32
groovehuntersproingie, now i understand - thx for explanation! :)05:32
SmittysWorkingLast, 1.  Default System Session, 2. GNOME, Failsafe Gnome, Failsafe Terminal05:32
gerarconeRenski, so all the work under graphical interface?05:32
groovehunterhmm... how can i install konqueror via remote shell??05:32
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sproingiegroovehunter: i think the assumption is if you're going to build kde from sources, you're probably going to use one of the svn branches05:33
gerarconeboxerboy29, how should i compile simple c++ programs?05:33
boxerboy29for c i use gcc but i havent gotten as far as c++ yet :( but gcc should compile c++05:33
Renskigerarcone: err, no05:33
groovehuntersproingie, svn ?05:33
Renskigerarcone: g++ file.cpp -o outputname05:33
hutgyrrwould there be abything available to split a main folder into more folders so that each one could fit on a dvd05:33
sproingieboxerboy29: gcc will compile c++ all right, but it will die horribly linking it.  use g++05:33
gerarconeRenski, and if i include in the file some libreries, like stdlib?05:34
SmittysWorkingBlissex, I have selected to session into GNOME, but the GUI isnt appearing, just the brown background and white pointer.05:34
sproingiegroovehunter: subversion.  cvs clone, but slightly better05:34
groovehunterok05:34
YattaMaX[QUESTION]  :  how to modify the *boot procedure* of the Ubuntu Live CD ? (please write my nick in the answer....otherwise I don't notate them)05:34
YattaMaXI have to customizating the Ubuntu Live CD for a *blind* user, therefore I have to limit any question on boot (FIRST that X or GDM starting) .....carefully the screen resolution question on boot.         anyone can help me ?05:34
BlissexSmittysWorking: I have asked you to list which options you get in that list. Perhaps you haven't actually instralled GNOME05:34
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BlissexSmittysWorking: so you may need to log in with another option to fix that.05:35
SmittysWorkingBlissex:  "Last", "Default System Session", "GNOME", "Failsafe Gnome", "Failsafe Terminal"05:35
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BlissexSmittysWorking: try "Failsafe Gnome" and if that does not work, "Failsafer Terminal", and let me know05:36
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trans_errAnyone know what would be involved in dd'ing the CD iso to my extra hard drive?05:36
trans_err(I ran out of blanks)05:37
SmittysWorkingok...  "Failsafe GNOME" gives the same result as regular "GNOME".  "Failsafe Terminal" gives me the same brown background, but opens a terminal window over it.05:37
Blissextrans_err: nothing, just do it.05:37
BlissexSmittysWorking: that indicated you have not installed GNOME...05:37
sproingietrans_err: dd should give you a perfectly good .iso image05:37
jroesso anyone know how to set up Cairo and cool stuff on ubuntu?05:37
trans_errBlissex: any idea what the offset should be or just DD the entire iso?05:37
trans_errsproingie: I want to copy the ISO to a hard disk05:38
trans_errand boot off of it05:38
Blissextrans_err: 'cp /dev/cdrom /filestem/file.iso'05:38
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Strogcool stuff05:38
Blissextrans_err: booting from that ISO is less easy...05:38
sproingietrans_err: so do it. dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/path/to/file.iso05:38
SmittysWorkingBlissex:  Im sorry to keep being such a bother.  How can i reinstall GNOME from the Ubuntu disc?05:38
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sproingietrans_err: and unless you have a really amazing bios, you're not going to get to boot off it05:38
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BlissexSmittysWorking: yes sure.05:38
BlissexSmittysWorking: wait a sec.05:38
trans_errHaha I don't think you guys get it-- I have the ISO-- I want to copy the contents to a hard disk and boot off of it05:39
boxerboy29cant he just sudo apt-get install gnome now?05:39
Blissexboxerboy29: yes, indeed05:39
SmittysWorkingok05:39
boxerboy29i wanna see if it tells him its already there :(05:39
Blissexboxerboy29: problem is, I cant remember if the install put the CD/DVD as a source in '/etc/apt/sources.list'05:39
trans_errIs that even possible-- I seem to remember having a usb jump that did mini installs of debian....05:39
sproingietrans_err: you don't.  iso images don't work that way.  maybe a livecd if you fiddle with the bootloader05:40
casHi, I've a problem with setting up a nfs server. I think I found the problem, but now the solution :)05:40
boxerboy29good point05:40
BlissexSmittysWorking: what does 'grep cdrom /etc/apt/sources.list' say?05:40
casWhen I mount the partition on my client I get the error: "failed, reason given by server: Permission denied" Now when I check "/proc/fs/nfs/exports"05:40
casI don't see my export I've set in /etc/exports. Is this normal?05:40
Strogtrans_err: You could dd the image to the harddrive but it will wipe the hard drive and create an iso sized partition05:40
SmittysWorkingBlissex:  *sigh*  Package gnome is not available05:40
trans_errStrog: which is what I want to do05:40
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StrogIt the iso on the same drive you want to blow away?05:40
BlissexSmittysWorking: thats not necessarily the right name...05:40
trans_errStrog: would I be able to boot off that?05:40
trans_errStrog: of course not05:40
SmittysWorkingBlisex:  Ahhso.05:41
Strogprobably would work fine since it had a bootsector on it05:41
BlissexSmittysWorking: so what does 'grep cdrom: /etc/apt/sources.list' say?05:41
trans_errStrog: I'll give it a try05:41
sproingieStrog: i doubt it.  the geometry is totally different05:41
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Strogkinda of the long away around compared to burning a cd05:41
Strogsince when does linux care about geometry? :)05:42
trans_errStrog: Not when you're a poor college student with a serious lack of cdrs05:42
sproingieStrog: your bios cares05:42
MrManuhi, will 5.10 support automatic removal of unused dependencies?05:42
Strogbut extra hard drives05:42
boxerboy29its 100% easier to run to store spend 3.00 on a blank cd and burn it no?05:42
sproingietrans_err: they cost like fifty cents at kinkos05:42
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trans_errI'd have to catch a bus :?05:42
trans_err:/05:42
BlissexMrManu: you can do that now by installing the right package. But it is a bit dangerous.05:42
deFryskMrManu, use deborphian for removal of obsolete packages05:42
Strogubunutu will send you a CD free if you request it05:42
SmittysWorkingBlissex:  "deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ Release i386 (20050407)] / hoary main restricted"05:42
trans_errStrog: not a breezy one :D I have plenty of hoary cds05:43
BlissexSmittysWorking: well, you are lucky.05:43
sproingietrans_err: you could install hoary and dist-upgrade05:43
boxerboy29they start shipping breezy after the 13th05:43
bipolarSeveas, is the downage at seveas.ubuntulinux.nl expected or did something bad happen?05:43
MrManualready tried deborphan, its ok....but automatic <-- removal would be fine :)05:43
SmittysWorkingBlissex: And I am lucky because?05:43
trans_errsproingie: yeah-- I want a clean install though05:43
trans_errsproingie: things have been a little hairy lately05:43
QuinthiusMrManu: doubt it, it doesnt so far... but you can remove them manually. can even make a filder in synaptic to display them..05:43
thehilWhat does "October 30th" time "Fall back" mean?05:43
Quinthiusfilter*05:43
BlissexSmittysWorking: the install has put the right pointer to the CD in the list of places where to find packages. So it won't try to download them from the web.05:44
sproingietrans_err: you get a colony cd and you're still going to be dist-upgrading nearly everything anyway05:44
BlissexSmittysWorking: wait a sec for the right package name.05:44
MrManuin synaptic? how can i do so? :)05:44
SmittysWorkingBlissex: Ok...05:44
trans_errsproingie: you guys have no sense of adventure05:44
BlissexSmittysWorking: in the meantime you can do for your amusement 'sudo apt-cache search ubuntu'05:44
sproingietrans_err: i run breezy myself.  it's not even adventurous at this point05:44
QuinthiusMrManu: automatic wouldn't be very good. some independent packages would get removed...05:44
trans_errsproingie: the adventure is in booting of my hard disk cd05:45
MrManuwell there could be a *do not remove* list ;-)05:45
trans_errhopefully i'll be back05:45
boxerboy29thehil: can you give more info on where u see that?05:45
sproingietrans_err: it would certainly be an adventure making it work.  a livecd might be able to do it.  definitely nothing else.05:45
B_166-ER-Xwhat is a 'colony' cd ? i thought it was agame :|05:45
sproingietrans_err: at any rate it's well beyond the knowledge of anyone on the channel05:45
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BlissexSmittysWorking: well, you can now do 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' I guess.05:45
SmittysWorkingBlissex:  Here goes nothing!05:46
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boxerboy29colony im thinking is another word for beta05:46
BlissexSmittysWorking: what do you mean with goes nothing05:46
sproingieB_166-ER-X: colony is the name of the breezy build that's burned to cd for beta testing.   colony is the aggregate word for badgers, i.e. a colony of badgers05:46
MrManuwell I will restart my pc and try out the synaptic feature :), seems as i have to update before, installed breezy a while ago....anyway thanks05:46
B_166-ER-Xuh05:46
B_166-ER-Xokk05:46
SmittysWorkingBlissex, I said "Here Goes nothing!"05:46
B_166-ER-Xthat explain, thankx..05:47
sproingieB_166-ER-X: which is why they called it the array build last time, a group of hedgehogs is an array05:47
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QuinthiusMrManu: or, a lot easier and safer, is to just remove them manually :P05:47
QuinthiusMrManu: in synaptic go to settings -> filters05:47
QuinthiusMrManu: create new filter, name it "orphaned" or something, and uncheck all except Orphaned in the filter options05:47
SmittysWorkingBlissex:  ubuntu-dektop is already the newest version05:47
QuinthiusMrManu: then you can view orphaned packages by going to Custom -> Orphaned05:47
BlissexSmittysWorking: thats highly unlikely....05:47
BlissexSmittysWorking: uhm.05:47
Blissexare you still in the terminal window?05:47
MrManuah, stupid that i did not chech that :)05:47
B_166-ER-Xsproingie, i speak french first, although almost bilingual, i never thought about this..05:47
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SmittysWorkingBlissex:  I am05:47
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BlissexSmittysWorking: what error message happens if you say 'gnome-session' Enter05:48
sproingieB_166-ER-X: animal group names makes for some really interesting trivia05:48
BlissexSmittysWorking: thats the command to start GNOME from scratch05:48
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SmittysWorkingBlissex:  SESSION_MANAGER=local/Smitty-LAPTOP:/tmp.ICE-unix/733605:49
sproingieB_166-ER-X: like a group of ravens is called a "conspiracy of ravens"05:49
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manukI've a problem with a ps2 mouse trat doesn't work. Anyone can help me?05:49
itamarhi; what's the breezy release date?05:49
boxerboy29oct 1305:49
itamarthanks05:50
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boxerboy29yw05:50
BlissexSmittysWorking: and after that it should just start...05:50
B_166-ER-Xubuntu 7.30  groovy raven   'download the conspiracy cd'05:50
SmittysWorkingBlissex:  It is just hanging05:50
B_166-ER-Xuh05:50
sproingiehow about "ravishing raven"05:50
boxerboy29ubuntu is nowhere near 7.305:50
BlissexSmittysWorking: thats very odd. Kill it with CTRL_C05:51
SmittysWorkingBlissex:  Killed it05:51
deFryskwould be 07.04 then05:51
deFryskin 1.5 jrs05:52
sproingiei think mark has the next dozen names plotted out most likely05:52
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B_166-ER-Xhahaha05:52
RenskiAfter breezy I think we should have 'mellow mushroom'05:52
gerarconeRenski, what is the system("PAUSE") command under Linux?05:52
BlissexSmittysWorking: now try 'ping localhost' what does do?05:52
boxerboy29dapper debian is after breezy05:52
sproingiedapper drake05:53
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boxerboy29sorry drake not debian05:53
Renskigerarcone: as far as im aware, that would do nothing at all05:53
SmittysWorkingBlissex:  It is pinging itself sucessfully.05:53
BlissexSmittysWorking: bizarre, so its not a network problem.05:54
RenskiThe system command is a little like typing something on the command line. For example you could do system("cp blah.txt blah2.txt");05:54
BlissexSmittysWorking: at least not an obvious one.05:54
B_166-ER-Xdiaper drake. brrr05:54
Renskibut there is no such command as 'PAUSE'05:54
BlissexSmittysWorking: so now try 'gnome-panel' as a command.05:54
SmittysWorkingBlissex:  I love being Non-Traditional.05:54
gerarconeRenski, what command should i use instead of system("PAUSE") nothing? o_O05:54
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Renskiwell, what are you trying to do?05:55
SmittysWorkingBlissex:  bash: gnome-panel: command not found05:55
Cryptidbob2, i am unable to find Java in synaptic i need sun-j2sdk and Java2-runtime torun azureus but when i try installing it it says that these dependencies are not installable what do i do and where do i gets these files from05:55
sproingieRenski: if you want to pause for a certain time, try sleep.  this should already be in c or perl, whatever you're using05:55
BlissexSmittysWorking: there is then something really wrong, because thats an essential part of GNOME, and if you have 'ubuntu-desktop' up to date it should be installed.05:55
sproingieRenski: otherwise you can invoke it from the shell with system("sleep x") where x is the time in seconds you want to sleep05:55
gerarconeRenski, simply i'm trying to pause the program until someone presses a key05:55
Renskisproingie: I code C++ almost every day, im trying to help gerarcone05:55
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SmittysWorkingBlissex:  Should I do a complete reinstall from a difrferent Ubuntu disc?05:56
sproingieRenski: sorry :)05:56
BlissexSmittysWorking: it could be that the CD you installed from is faulty, and you did not notice CD read errors during install.05:56
boxerboy29smittysworking: is this hoary or breezy?05:56
BlissexSmittysWorking: ideally yes, a complete reinstall, after checking that the CD checksum is good.05:56
SmittysWorkingBlissex:  Good thing I ordered 10 copies!05:56
Renskisproingie: ah05:56
CryptidI am unable to install azureus synaptic says the Java2 run time and sun j2sdk dependency files are not installable05:56
sproingieRenski: sounds like his problem is the standard unix faq of "where's conio.h and readkey?" .... little more involved :)05:56
Renskilol yah05:56
Renski*yeah05:56
BlissexSmittysWorking: however, let's try another little experiment.05:56
SmittysWorkingBlissex:  ok05:56
sproingieok, gotta go05:57
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gerarconeRenski, no solution for that?05:57
Renskigerarcone: on windows, id use getch();05:57
BlissexSmittysWorking: we can try to quickly install XFCE4 which is similar to GNOME but smaller and see if that works.05:57
BlissexSmittysWorking: Ah, in the meantime do05:57
Renskigerarcone: however I cant remember how to do that in linux05:57
Renskiask in #c++05:57
gerarconeRenski, ok, thanks for your help!05:58
gerarconeRenski, :)05:58
BlissexSmittysWorking: Ah, in the meantime do 'debsums -a' and see if gives some obvious error messages05:58
BlissexSmittysWorking: actually wait a second.05:58
groovehunterbasic apt-get question: can i add a debian instable source in sources-list?05:58
SmittysWorkingBlissex:  waiting...05:59
BlissexSmittysWorking: do this more specifically: 'debsums gnome-panel'05:59
groovehunterto have sources for kde05:59
Blissexgroovehunter: why? Use the Kubuntu sources...05:59
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SmittysWorkingBlissex:  bash: debsums: command not found05:59
deFryskmd5sum05:59
BlissexSmittysWorking: 'apt-get install debsums'05:59
groovehunterBlissex, what pkg? kubuntu-desktop ?05:59
Blissexgroovehunter: for example...06:00
groovehunterwasnt found06:00
Blissexgroovehunter: but add the right sources. Look at Kubuntu.org06:00
groovehunteri already ran update06:00
SmittysWorkingBlissex:  debsums not available06:00
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BlissexSmittysWorking: what does 'apt-get update' do?06:00
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hutgyrrfor doing fairly large backups can I get a multi array dvd burner and get ubuntu to route the info to each burner seperately. Some pointers would be of great help06:01
SmittysWorkingBlissex:  E: could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)06:01
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boxerboy29sudo06:01
BlissexSmittysWorking: sorry, do all these 'apt' commands with 'sudo' at the beginning, I forgot about that.06:01
SmittysWorkingForgot the sudo06:01
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BlissexSmittysWorking: actually06:02
SmittysWorkinghold on06:02
dooglusI just rebooted after the most recent breezy kernel update and found that nothing would boot apart from windows!06:02
BlissexSmittysWorking: 'sudo /bin/bash' and then you are in, no need to 'sudo' again.06:02
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SmittysWorkingBlissex:  Ran update.06:02
hutgyrrwhat does sudo /bin/bash do?06:02
boxerboy29i never tried that i always sudo -i06:02
dooglusblueyed: just sudo -i is enough06:02
hutgyrris that not the same as su root?06:03
dooglushutgyrr: no.  to "su root" you need the root password06:03
boxerboy29sudo and su are pretty much same06:03
hutgyrrand for dudo u need the root passwd too06:03
dooglusboxerboy29: that's not true at all06:03
rockin_stanboxerboy29, ??06:03
B_166-ER-Xdooglus, did something similar here, my home dir was not accesible, i just..reinstalled hoary, telling me that i just understood the meaning of 'unstable'06:03
dooglushutgyrr: for "sudo" you use your own password06:03
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hutgyrryour own passwd for spruser privs?06:04
dooglushutgyrr: if you're in the admin group, yes06:04
hutgyrroh06:04
groovehunterBlissex, ok now, i had to uncomment the archive line in sources.list06:04
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boxerboy29other than password and meaning of the letters what differs?06:04
SmittysWorkingBlissex:  I ran the update06:04
dooglushutgyrr: it makes things more accountable.  you can tell which user messed things up, whereas if a bunch of admins all share the root password, you can't06:04
Seveasbipolar, it's expectted, i didn't switch it on yet  today ;)06:04
hutgyrrmmmm06:04
dooglusboxerboy29: sudo is very configurable.  you can tell it "let boxerboy run apt-get as root, and let dooglus run shutdown as root, but nothing else"06:05
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B_166-ER-Xboxerboy29,  well, if you install something in sudo, it will install it with root privilege, preventing  a user to screw it up later06:05
hutgyrrbut if you are in the admin grp and you sudo with your own passwd do you have the same privs as root?06:05
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anyhi06:05
Blissexgroovehunter: good.06:05
dooglushutgyrr: yes06:05
B_166-ER-Xand many things require a sudo or root access to install06:05
Blissexgroovehunter: you can mix in the Debian sources, but it is dangerous.06:05
nerpi'm starving06:05
nerpneed food06:05
boxerboy29i thought you could do that with su on other distros06:05
nxv_i just installed from cd secound time. server. get grub error 18 when booting ;( gave ubuntu whole disc to part itselfe.06:05
linuxmonkeydoes breezy have many bugs at this point?06:05
BlissexSmittysWorking: so now do the 'apt-get install debsums'06:06
anyhow can I get my ubuntu version id (colony 4/5) ?06:06
nerplinuxmonkey, no, not really06:06
doogluslinuxmonkey: yes, hundreds I'd guess06:06
linuxmonkeylmao06:06
hutgyrrso what adv does it have apart from making the system more accountable?06:06
doogluslinuxmonkey: but a lot less than hoary06:06
SmittysWorkingBlissex:  Tried that.  Still says that "Package debsums is not available, but is referred to by another package"06:06
nerppersonally I have had next to no probs with breezy at all06:06
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linuxmonkeyI had heard that nvidia drivers were having a problem on breezy is that true06:07
dooglusnerp: you're not try hard enough then :)06:07
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nerpdooglus, i've been pounding on this thing for a couple of weeks now.. no major burps06:07
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BlissexSmittysWorking: thats slighly odd. However, lets try another one.06:07
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hutgyrrwhat are the main differences between ubuntu and debian?06:07
BlissexSmittysWorking: 'dpkg -L gnome-panel'06:07
dooglusnerp: did you try the keyboard indicator?  that thing is seriously broken06:08
nerpdooglus, nope, never tried it..06:08
nerpnow you have my gears turning06:08
linuxmonkeyok my major concern ..is it easyer to upgrade to breezy or to fresh install?06:08
dooglusnerp: grep still uses quadradic time in UTF8 locales06:08
nerpi'm a glutton for punishment06:08
nerphehe06:08
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BlissexSmittysWorking: as to 'dpkg -L gnome-panel' just say if it lists about a dozen files.06:08
nerplinuxmonkey, from what warty or hoary or?06:08
Blissexnerp: Gentoo user?06:08
boxerboy29personally i would go fresh that way if something happens u have cd to fall back on06:09
nerpBlissex, not anymore06:09
SmittysWorkingBlissex:  Came up with a large list of files...  ie:  /usr/lib/gnome-panel/clock-applet, /usr/lib/gnome-panel/fish-applet-206:09
linuxmonkeyhow do I find out, im new to ubuntu, i used to use linux way back when06:10
BlissexSmittysWorking: what number does 'dpkg -L gnome-panel | wc -l' prints?06:10
nerpi've tried most of the major distros out there.. mdk, debian, slack, gentoo, vlos, mepis and others but since I was inducted on mdk 7.0 I tended to stick with them, until I could no longer stand their politics06:10
BlissexSmittysWorking: BTW, the names you have reported are mostly OK.06:10
dooglusnerp: how did you like their IRC channel?06:10
nerpi eventually found happiness with debian but got sick of doing net installs.. so ubuntu was the closest option for ease of install & the like06:11
nerpdooglus, splotchy at best06:11
nerpsometimes it was good other times crap06:11
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rico_eberlethis one has still the best irc channel :)06:11
nerpand that's another thing about ubuntu, both IRC and wiki/forums support is pretty good06:11
SmittysWorkingBlissex:  Same list but 2 additions:  Package wc is not installed, package -l is not installed06:11
nerpdebian support is snobbish06:12
nerpsuse support is ok but feels so limited06:12
boxerboy29i have yet found an irc channel for other distros that help as much as here06:12
BlissexSmittysWorking: with a pipe in the middle....06:12
linuxmonkeynerp, i think im using hoardy06:12
rico_eberlea lot of l33dz in there... at least they think they are :D06:12
nerpthe other appeal of deb/ubuntu is the wide range of packages in comparison to most distros06:12
BlissexSmittysWorking: 'dpkg -L gnome-panel | wc -l'06:12
SmittysWorkingWhoops...  Looked like a backslash06:12
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SmittysWorkingBlissex:  2806:13
^DodGeR^has anyone managed to get e17 working on ubuntu ?06:13
nerpmandriva is totally annoying about keeping up to date with packages unless there is a security issue with the current one06:13
nerpotherwise you have to 'join the club' and pay06:13
boxerboy29i havent gotten a mandriva update in wekks for 2006 cooker06:14
d2dchatwhat do i need to enable me to open Adobe Illustrator files in Gimp?06:14
nerpor compile and install from source, which I don't mind06:14
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Serv|nokiahello06:14
BlissexSmittysWorking: sounds good. Now 'dpkg -L gnome-panel | xargs ls -d' and in partricular look for errors. It should like the same names with their size in KB.06:14
nerpboxerboy29, impossible.. I have cooker installed now06:14
boxerboy29right now im thinking of a replacement for mandriva06:14
nerphave you done urpmi.update -a?06:14
boxerboy29no i went threw their updater06:14
Serv|nokiacan somebody help me whit that: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2587 ?06:14
nerperr, do urpmi.update -a06:15
boxerboy29cause i tried urpmi update and nothing06:15
nerperr, and what sources are you using for media?06:15
boxerboy29i will next time im in there06:15
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boxerboy29i went to easyrpm site and got all the sources06:15
slibshello guys06:15
slibscan you tell me what is "tarball"06:15
nerpk06:15
nerpslibs, it's a compressed file06:16
slibsoh06:16
SmittysWorkingBlissex:  All I got was the same list, but now had the ".gz" extensions.06:16
nerpsimilar to a zip or the like06:16
d2dchatslibs, tar --help06:16
linuxmonkeyi just wished that my wifi card worked in native mode without having to use ndiswrapper.. it worked in Fedora Core 3 when I tested it out but when i compile the driver modules and try to insert them i get a module format error, yet the module is 2.6.X..lol06:16
BlissexSmittysWorking: thats ridiculous.06:16
boxerboy29ill be back im gonna try that06:16
BlissexSmittysWorking: what happens if you do '/usr/bin/gnome-panel'06:16
d2dchati generally use tar -zxvf filename to extract files06:17
d2dchat(I think thats the right order)06:17
Blissexlinuxmonkey: buy a different card....06:17
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Serv|nokiacan somebody help me whit that: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2587 ?06:17
nerpd2dchat, yeah that'll work06:17
vbgunzcan someone help me out with GPG?06:17
vbgunzwhere do I begin?06:17
nerpServ|nokia, hang on06:17
SmittysWorkingBlissex:  o_O  The GUI finally woke up...  but I have several Red X graphics on the application bars.06:17
nerpgoogle gpg there is a tutorial on the site06:18
d2dchatnerp, I think i switched the vf once and it didnt work lol06:18
linuxmonkeyyea I know Blissex , it all comes down to money and i'm moving in a few days so i'll be broke for a few months06:18
vbgunzI know how to use it on Windows but I am unsure of how to go about installing it...06:18
SmittysWorkingBlissex:  particularly where the "Desktop" button sould be on the lower bar.06:18
BlissexSmittysWorking: dont worry about that. Why did not work when you just said 'gnome-panel'?06:18
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d2dchatdoes anyone know how to get The GIMP to open Adobe Illustrator files?06:18
BlissexSmittysWorking: that is not the full GUI, it is just the panel, and is missing really importnat stuff.06:18
vbgunznerp: thanks was thinking of that... it's just I am already in synapic and thought I ask... I just have a bunch of options06:18
d2dchatotherwise I have to try to get all my shit working on WINE AHH06:18
nerpd2dchat, plugins06:19
BlissexSmittysWorking: now kill it again with CTRL-C06:19
FlyingSquirrel32How do I print a list of my emails in evolution?06:19
d2dchatnerp, where? I looked in the spm06:19
vbgunznerp: I'll do that, thanks06:19
SmittysWorkingBlissex:  Hold on06:19
BlissexSmittysWorking: and restart it properly with '/usr/bin/gnome-session'06:19
d2dchatFlyingSquirrel32, lol, i swear you've had that question FOREVER06:19
nerpd2dchat, ftp.gimp.org i believe has a pub dir of plugins06:19
FlyingSquirrel32What is a good windows emulator?06:19
vbgunzvmware06:19
vbgunzgood emulator06:19
nerpServ|nokia, sudo apt-get update then try again06:20
gpd /wc06:20
vbgunzvmware has a price but when compared to qemu, it's most likely worth it... I tried QEMU but believe it is far off06:20
rico_eberleI used to work with dreamweaver mx - is there something similar in ubuntu (didn't use the wysiwyg-interface)?06:20
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linuxmonkeyvmware is the best however get ready to pay a nice chunk of change for it06:20
FlyingSquirrel32d2dchat: Sorry, just hoping someone new might be around. Besides, It's not like it's really a hard one :)06:20
SmittysWorkingBlissex:  (gnome-panel:7382): Glib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion 'object->ref_count >0' failed06:20
Serv|nokianerp: http://www.ubuntu-forum.de/artikel/17/3/Apache--PHP--MySQL-installieren.html <-- i used this06:20
Serv|nokiaget it work06:20
nerpServ|nokia, sudo apt-get update then try again06:20
BlissexSmittysWorking: dont worry, that kind of think happens all the time.06:20
BlissexSmittysWorking: have killed 'gnome-panel' and started '/usr/bin/gnome-session'?06:21
d2dchatFlyingSquirrel32, have you tried File->Print?06:21
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SmittysWorkingBlissex:  After using /usr/bin/gnome-session it hangs again06:21
d2dchatwhen you're in your mailbox?06:21
FlyingSquirrel32d2dchat: Only prints a single e-mail.06:21
nerpi'll brb06:21
d2dchatFlyingSquirrel32, even if you dont select anything?06:21
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linuxmonkeyFlyingSquirrel32,  sometimes you can get a trial of VMWARE so check em out to see how you like it, i purchased it and have no regrets06:21
vbgunznerp: all I found about GPG on the WIKI resembling what I need is how to create a key... I knew that :( What I need to know is that when in Synaptic, searching for GPG and getting a few hits back... what *exactly* do I install?06:22
BlissexSmittysWorking: I am pretty sure that you have to reinstall. But the real issue is: ''what went wrong?'' because if it happens again on resinstall it is nbot good.06:22
BlissexSmittysWorking: kill it again...06:22
SmittysWorkingBlissex: Killed again.06:22
rico_eberleI used to work with dreamweaver mx - is there something similar in ubuntu (didn't use the wysiwyg-interface)?06:22
vbgunzvmware is the best I found without a doubt06:22
vbgunztrial last 45 days06:22
bipolarSeveas, cool :) are any of those packages going into breezy officialy? If not, I'd like to mirror them localy for me and friends. :)06:22
SmittysWorkingBlissex:  I shall simply reinstall it...06:22
d2dchatFlyingSquirrel32, try this...06:22
d2dchatFlyingSquirrel32, click on one email06:22
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d2dchatFlyingSquirrel32, then do ctrl+a06:23
AnswerHello #ubuntu06:23
d2dchatFlyingSquirrel32, then try to print06:23
vbgunzI wish to use GPG and GPA06:23
BlissexSmittysWorking: yes, but what if your CD is broken or your memory is bad -- it is better to know what went wrong.06:23
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BlissexSmittysWorking: try now 'apt-get install xfce' and tell me what happens.06:23
AnswerCan I change my windowsXP partition type to fat32?  Will that help ubuntu partition some free space?06:23
linuxmonkeyok guys im about to undertake the install of breezy by updating , any words of advice or wisdom,06:23
d2dchatFlyingSquirrel32, hmm, that isnt working for me lol, it might just be eating up RAM or it just doesnt like that06:23
FlyingSquirrel32d2dchat: It wont let you print like that.06:23
vbgunzAnswer: I dont believe you can just change your systems file type... interesting question though06:24
Seveasbipolar, probably not, but feel free to mirror06:24
BlissexAnswer: no, XP can only boot from NTFS.06:24
SmittysWorkingBlissex:  Couldnt find package xfce06:24
vbgunzBlissex: you sure?06:24
FlyingSquirrel32d2dchat: It was disabled for me.06:24
vbgunzI remember installing XP onto fat and it worked fine for me06:24
Blissexvbgunz: yes...06:24
AnswerBut the ubuntu install partitioning cannot get free space, even tho htere is free space... :/06:24
Blissexvbgunz: MS Windows 2000 can boot from FAT32, XP cannot.06:24
vbgunzthe only thing I regretted about putting XP onto a fat partition was it blew up in size06:25
d2dchatFlyingSquirrel32, yea, hold on, trying something06:25
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AnswerBlissex: Can I make XP defragment into contiguous space at the beginning of the partition?06:25
nerpmm much better06:25
nerpi was dying of thirst06:25
umberleighBlissex: erm, i don't think so. i dual boot ubuntu/winXP, and XP is on a fat32 partition06:25
BlissexAnswer: yes. There are several partition resizers that do exactly that. Takes forever though.06:25
linuxmonkeyBlissex, ive booted xp from fat32 before, now mind you I did upgrade to ntfs a few months later06:25
d2dchatFlyingSquirrel32, well.. this worked but it shows all of the headers06:26
d2dchatFlyingSquirrel32, if you ctrl+a06:26
SmittysWorkingBlissex:  It couldnt find xfce.06:26
Blissexlinuxmonkey: then perhaps it is possible but not supported. I am surprised though.06:26
Answerumberleigh: Did you setup the partition to be fat32 from the beginning?06:26
d2dchatFlyingSquirrel32, then you right click on any email06:26
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d2dchatFlyingSquirrel32, click Save06:26
umberleighAnswer: yup06:26
Wipe-Outand the pater is back06:26
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Wipe-Outpaster06:26
BlissexSmittysWorking: try the same with 'apt-get install fvwm'06:26
d2dchatFlyingSquirrel32, find a directory06:26
vbgunzme too " a few days later" XP becomes far to big on a fat partition06:26
d2dchatFlyingSquirrel32, save it in that directory (dont forget to name it)06:26
SmittysWorkingBlissex:  Same result.06:27
nerpyeah06:27
Wipe-Outguys i've got issues installing gcc06:27
nerpfat is evil06:27
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d2dchatFlyingSquirrel32, navigate to the file in the file manager, then open it, it will show u all the emails, but with the headers, and i think you can print them from there06:27
vbgunzWipe-Out: there are a few GCC programs I believe06:27
nerpvbgunz, i'm sorry what did you need to do again06:27
Wipe-Outinstalled it but afterwards it can't be found by make06:27
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d2dchatFlyingSquirrel32, it aint pretty tho;)06:27
nerpwith GPG06:27
vbgunzI know some commands with GPG on command line06:27
linuxmonkeyyes Ms doesnt support it per say, hehehe i'm ms certified and hate ms....hence why im coming back to linux06:27
AnswerSo, I have this Dell preinstalled with WinXP and NTFS, how can I get some free space for ubuntu?06:27
abarbacciawhats the difference from apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade06:27
vbgunznerp: the wiki talks only about those commands06:27
d2dchatbut if you're being audited by the government06:28
umberleighnerp: i know, no proper file permissions, but at least i can write to fat32 from linux06:28
vbgunznerp: I am using synaptic and only need to know which packages do I have to install to use GPG06:28
nerpAnswer, a prtitioning tool06:28
Wipe-Outvbgunz: i just did apt-get install gcc06:28
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d2dchatFlyingSquirrel32, but if you're being audited by the government, it might be just the thing;)06:28
vbgunznerp: do I just install GPG?06:28
BlissexSmittysWorking: uhm, hard to think of anything else.06:28
Wipe-Outthat should be enough06:28
bipolarSeveas, should I just wget it all or setup rsync or something?06:28
nerpoh, yes06:28
linuxmonkeyAnswer easy...use something like norton partition magic06:28
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SmittysWorkingBlissex:  Its oky.  Im going to reinstall using a different Ubuntu disc.06:28
BlissexSmittysWorking: perhaps the best thing is just to reinstall from a different CD.06:28
Answerlinuxmonkey: ok, can you email it to me hehe06:28
BlissexSmittysWorking: indeed.06:28
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xerxasI have generated a gpg key, what should I do with it ?06:28
Vixushey06:28
xerxastell it to zyga ?06:28
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Vixuswhere does rhythmbox store library info? I need to clear my library.06:29
nerpxerxas, that's not typically a supported topic here06:29
BlissexSmittysWorking: pay particular attention to any installation error messages.06:29
linuxmonkeyAnswer,  unfortunatly its not free but u should be able to get a fully functional trial from their website06:29
SmittysWorkingBlissex:  OK06:29
nerpi recommend reading the docs on how to use it06:29
vbgunzWipe-Out: if you use synaptic theres more than just GCC as I remember... for example when I was installing vmware on Ubuntu it asked for GCC... I installed it but it refused to use it... I then used Synaptic and found theres more than one version... when I installed the later version of GCC... vmware used it without problems06:29
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vbgunznerp: thanks06:29
d2dchathow come the latest stable release of GIMP is 2.2.8 but the latest ubuntu release is 2.2.2?06:29
nerpvbgunz, no prob06:29
d2dchatwhy is it so slow??06:29
xerxasnerp: I need to give my gpg key to ubuntu to have the upload right to the revu06:29
Answerlinuxmonkey: all the trials let you pretend to make changes but they won't execute06:29
twibblerI have a bug in openoffice under breezy.... the mailmerge fails ... anyideas where to get help from ?.06:30
FlyingSquirrel32d2dchat: No, that just won't do.06:30
xerxasnerp: I think it's not really off topic here06:30
Wipe-Outso anybody got an idea, i just installed gcc and tryed to do sudo make, and it tells me it can;t find gcc, how come?06:30
AnswerWipe-Out: locate gcc06:30
d2dchatFlyingSquirrel32, sorry:( like i said, it would be good for a government audit hehe06:30
ompauld2dchat, this has to do with where breezy badger forked from, debian sid april06:30
linuxmonkeyoh I guess they changed the way their trials work, all I can suggest then is to buy it or find a friend that has it and lets you use it06:30
FlyingSquirrel32d2dchat: This functionality should definitly be there... I guess I'll suggest it to them and start programming...06:30
nerpxerxas, you're asking how to use gpg, yes it is off topic here, if it had to do with installing the package or some ubuntu problem then it would be on topic06:30
SeveasWipe-Out, sudo make is a bad idea06:30
Seveasmake should always be run as normal user06:31
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Vixusaaany ideas?06:31
FlyingSquirrel32d2dchat: I'll keep that in mind when I'm audited...I'm mean if... ahem...06:31
Seveasand first you should try to find a .deb with the software you want06:31
Wipe-Outi need to install ndiswrapper06:31
d2dchatompaul, how often do they update the distros?06:31
SeveasWipe-Out, don't compile that06:31
d2dchatFlyingSquirrel32, ;)06:31
Seveasit comes with ubuntu06:31
xerxasnerp: sorry, i thought I was on #ubuntu-motu06:31
xerxas:)06:31
vbgunznerp: I just remembered why I cam here to ask about GPG... When I looked for GPG in synaptic everything but *GPG* came back... Should I just apt-get install GPG?06:31
Wipe-Outi need it to get internet working on my friggin laptop06:31
d2dchatFlyingSquirrel32, I would suggest you tell them to provide more saving options, like include headers, dont include headers, etc.06:31
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SeveasWipe-Out, wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetupNdiswrapper06:31
linuxmonkeynerp, you still here06:32
Wipe-Outtried it same result06:32
d2dchatFlyingSquirrel32, the capability to do what you want is there, it is just as advanced as it needs to be06:32
Wipe-Outhow can i make sure gcc is found?06:32
nerpyes i'm here..06:32
SeveasWipe-Out, DON'T COMPILE IT06:32
nerphang tight in like 17 channels on 5 different nets06:32
nerpmesseges are backing up :P06:32
Seveasapt-get install ndiswrapper-utils06:32
Wipe-OutSeveas: why?06:33
vbgunzxerxas: how do I install GPG?06:33
linuxmonkeyok i got heardy and going to upgrade to breezy, any word of advice06:33
SeveasWipe-Out, read what I said: ubuntu comes with ndiswrapper06:33
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B_166-ER-Xi have installer bit-tornado but it doesnt show up anywwhere, and dont offer me to open torrents with it at download...help ?06:33
Answerlinuxmonkey: image your harddrive first for a backup :)06:33
Seveaslinuxmonkey, yeah, just do it :)06:33
Wipe-Outyeah but 1.1 is more buggy then 1.306:33
nerpvbgunz, i can't recall ecact package name, synaptic search in "descriptions and names " gpg hould have a result06:33
nerplinuxmonkey, what was the question06:33
vbgunzI just tried apt-get as i couldn't find GPG... "Package gpg is not available, but is referred to by another package."06:33
d2dchatompaul, I mean because updating using spm is nice and convient, but when they release things so slowly, its not good to rely on and i have to manually build/compile everything06:33
ompauld2dchat, wrong question, it is forked every six months, but ask yourself when will 2.2.8 or higher move into debian sid and get accepted as working with all sorts of stuff, then it will be in the ubuntu after that, you do realise that a x.x.x point increase is a very small change?06:33
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vbgunzI don't want to experiment right now... I really want to be on point with it...06:34
xerxasvbgunz: apt-get install gpg06:34
twoSharphow to install vmware on breezy?06:34
ompauld2dchat, this is not a distro where you build everything, you may have mixed it up with gentoo06:34
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JloRDoes anyone know approximately how long resizing of a 40gb partition (where 7gb is used for WinXP) will take during the Ubuntu installation?06:34
linuxmonkeynerp,  im going to upgrade to breezy from hoardy, you got any word of advice, other than folling instructions on website06:34
rob_pvbgunz:  apt-get install gnupg06:34
d2dchatompaul, I've heard that Adobe Illustrator files work in 2.2.8 and not in 2.2.2 and i KNOW for a fact that RubyGems doesn't like the current version of Ruby released on spm06:34
ompauld2dchat, once you do that how to you keep your system bug free?06:34
vbgunzxerxas: i just did that "sudo apt-get install gpg" Response was: "Package gpg is not available, but is referred to by another package."06:34
vbgunzoh sorry06:34
nerplinuxmonkey, if you have a fast connection I would grab the iso, burn and upgrade that way there may be a million packages to download via net.. upgrade could take ages06:34
ompaulspm ?06:34
vbgunzI didn't try "gnupg"06:35
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vbgunzdidn't think of that06:35
rob_p:)06:35
Seveasvbgunz, gpg is installed by default06:35
Wipe-Outstill guys if i want to compile stuff i'll need gcc to work so how can i make sure it's going to be found?06:35
B_166-ER-Xi have installer bit-tornado but it doesnt show up anywwhere, and dont offer me to open torrents with it at download...help ?06:35
d2dchatompaul, synaptic package manager06:35
CryptidSuggest software for improving desktop look like Gdesklets( since i know this sugesst some thing else which is good and works for sure)06:35
B_166-ER-Xinstalled.06:35
jjazzWipe-Out:  apt-get install build-essential06:35
linuxmonkeynerp, I did download the image however i'm out of cd-r's06:35
vbgunzSeveas:  haha, thanks and thanks rob_p... it is installed by default06:35
ompauld2dchat, why do you need such current things?06:35
Wipe-Outjjazz: did that as well, didn;t work06:35
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nerplinuxmonkey, go get some!06:36
Wipe-Outi'm using 5.10 btw06:36
d2dchata client of mine sent me these pdfs and adobe illustrator files to base off of and extract images from for their website06:36
vbgunzI have a question of opinion for GPG... whats a better GUI for GPG? CLI, GPA or Seahorse?06:36
Seveasvbgunz, cli is the most powerful, seahorse is weird, gpa is ok06:36
dooglusnerp: downloading the ISO is bound to be more of a download than upgrading just the packages he needs06:36
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d2dchatompaul, and not being about the use RubyGems on Ruby made it useless06:36
dooglusnerp: the ISO includes some stuff he doesn't need06:36
JloRDoes anyone know approximately how long resizing of a 40gb partition (where 7gb is used for WinXP) will take during the Ubuntu installation? It's been 6 minutes since I last saw any sign of life from my Ubuntu install (the preview one).. And my PC just looks dead, no lights flickering, no activity on the CDrom drive, no nothing - but the blue screen from the installer.. How long can I expect to wait?06:36
linuxmonkeynerp, I would but i'm broke, i'm moving in 3 days. lol06:36
bannermanCan anyone help me with the proprietary ati drive on 5.10 preview? Everything seems to load fine, but fglrxinfo still shows Mesa06:36
jjazzWipe-Out:  locate gcc06:36
Amaranthvbgunz: I always used kgpg06:36
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jjazzWipe-Out:  or do whereis gcc06:37
nerplinuxmonkey, upgrade via the net then!06:37
d2dchatompaul, not able to*06:37
Wipe-Outjjazz: and that will fix my command not found error?06:37
Seveas!tell bannerman about ati06:37
jjazzWipe-Out:  It should come back as /usr/bin/gcc06:37
Wipe-Outi'm n00b don;t know how to set up a path06:37
jjazzWipe-Out:  What happens when you do 'whereis gcc'?06:37
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vbgunzAmaranth: I understand kgpg is built for KDE... *but* I think I understand anything made for KDE could still work on GNOME and without much problem *or* is it simlpe recommended I get the GNOME support version?06:37
d2dchatompaul, i guess everything would be solved if i could get adobe PSCS2 running on ubuntu but Wine failed on me06:37
bannermanSeveas: I've been through the howto about 5 times now, but thank you.06:38
Amaranthvbgunz: it works fine in GNOME06:38
d2dchatompaul, (besides the ruby problem)06:38
Wipe-Outjjazz: i'll have to try and reboot the system06:38
linuxmonkeybrb upgrading06:38
jjazzWipe-Out:  why reboot?06:38
Seveasvbgunz, just get gpa :)06:38
slibsim trying to install latest fluxbox, should the process go like this "./configure" "make install" and "make", and then it should be installed and selectable from gdm?06:38
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Amaranthvbgunz: it even minimizes to the notification area (system tray)06:38
Seveasslibs, no06:38
xerxasvbgunz: don't know, I running breezy here06:38
jjazzslibs:  The process should probably go apt-get install fluxbox ;)06:38
XHKHow to set up internet in ubuntu when i got dsl connection?06:38
xerxassorry06:38
slibsjjazz: i wan't the latest version, not stable version06:39
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Wipe-Outjjazz: multi boot system ubuntu is isnstalled on this laptop06:39
Wipe-Outbrb06:39
vbgunzSeveas: I was thinking about GPA... Just thought I ask about KDE specialized apps... It's just still being new and amidst the silent desktop war... Well, I need to know if KDE apps work well in GNOME... thought I ask ;)06:39
XHKHow to set up internet in ubuntu when i got dsl connection? Please help me =/06:39
slibsSeveas: can you tell me what im missing?06:39
jjazzslibs:  You go on with your bad self, then.06:39
Seveasvbgunz, they work, but your selling your soul to the devil if you use them ;)06:39
d2dchatXHK, that should just be automatic:-P06:40
d2dchatXHK, unless your ISP is down06:40
Seveasslibs, you probably miss all the headers06:40
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XHKhmn06:40
slibsokay...06:40
Seveasand given that you need to ask, you miss the knowledge to complete this successfully06:40
jjazzvbgunz:  You can run KDE apps in Gnome, but then you have the overhead of loading both Gnome and KDE libs.  That's why most people stick to one or the other.06:40
dmacdonald111yes! registered!06:40
d2dchatXHK, or your LAN cables arent connected properly or whatever06:40
JloRHmm, waiting on the 10th minute now - is it normal for a machine to stop working when resizing partitions during install?06:40
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slibsSeveas: well then i just search a tutorial for this :/06:40
vbgunzjjazz: ahh, is that the truth?06:40
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KuolioXHK: do you have a pci-modem or external modem that is connected to your pc's network controller?06:41
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KuolioXHK: *dsl-modem that is06:41
ompauld2dchat, having a look at gems not something I have used - did a few lines in ruby once :)06:41
jjazzvbgunz:  No, it's a vicious pack of lies, but it sounded believable, didn't it? :P06:41
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d2dchatompaul, ;) its not really a practical language quite yet, but hopefully it will be soon06:41
Seveasjjazz, rofl :)06:41
vbgunzjjazz: haha yeah :P06:42
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Cryptid!!!!!!!!!!!!Suggest software for improving desktop look like Gdesklets( since i know this sugesst some thing else which is good and works for sure)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!06:42
ubotuCryptid: what are you talking about?06:42
dmacdonald111so if I install ubuntu & gnome over mepis & gnome, will it keep my settings or would I need to copy these somewhere?06:42
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SeveasCryptid, drop the exclamation marks...06:42
JloRCryptid: XFCE406:42
CryptidJloR, is XFCE4 good06:42
Seveasand be polite when you ask things...06:42
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JloRIt's the only window manager I'll ever use.06:43
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JloRbbl06:43
CryptidSeveas, sorry :-(06:43
B_166-ER-XI want to know where is my bit tornado :|06:43
CryptidJloR, oh can u direct me to some screen shots06:43
AnswerCryptid: Are you trying to ask how to customize your desktop?06:43
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CryptidAnswer, Yes06:43
vbgunzI have just tried to "sudo apt-get install gpa"... instead of going straight for the net, i am being asked for my Breezy CD... How do I if I wish, avoid use of the CD and get it from the net?06:43
adlCryptid: (super)karamba maybe if you're using kde06:43
Cryptidadl, i am using Gnome06:44
bannermanSeavas: Would you be willing to look at my configs and logs on pastebin? Pretty sure I've got the pertinent information here: http://pastebin.ca/2404106:44
jjazzvbgunz:  Remove the line referring to the CD from /etc/apt/sources.list.  It should be the first line or two.06:44
adland gdesklets are no option?06:44
StrogB_166-ER-X: Where did you last see it? :)06:44
vbgunzjjazz: thanks!06:44
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jjazzvbgunz:  Then do apt-get update and retry your apt-get install.06:44
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StrogI see bittornado on my breezy machine06:44
Cryptidadl, i tried using it but half the desklets dont work (they are not translucent) & the starter Bar dosent work :-(06:45
vbgunzjjazz: I am not doing that, I just wanted to know... I figure if I learn up to and no more (as there is no rush) just three Linux commands a day... by the end of the year 1,100 commands ;)06:45
jjazzI've never really understood why people want transparent windows and widgets.  Don't they make it harder to see things and thus make your desktop less functional?06:46
adlCryptid, i didnt work a lot with gdesklets, was just fooling around with them but decided that i dont want to use them ...06:46
ompauld2dchat, so your ruby question is almost hypothetical, well it looks to me like it is manual install and build, of those maybe you would like to manage the package building of them and provide debs for use with ubuntu06:46
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vbgunzthen I'll smoke somthing that'll blow all those braincells away so if you do the subtraction... I'll know about 43...06:46
vbgunzthanks!06:46
adlCryptid, maybe gkrellm would do the job for you?06:46
Cryptidadl, so u know ne program which will make my Ubuntu Look Better06:46
d2dchatompaul, yea, i had to manually install and build it.. and how would i go about doing that? because i wouldnt mind it;)06:47
Cryptidadl , gkrellm wat is that06:47
adlCryptid, but also i dont know if its possible to get everything done with it06:47
B_166-ER-XStrog, i installed it, but its not showing up anywhere06:47
vbgunzCryptid... Why not go to www.gnome-look.org and customize your Ubuntu starting there06:47
adlCryptid, afaik gkrellm is somewhat older than gdesklets ... but some of my friends dont want to use anything else06:47
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AnswerB_166-ER-X : try the commands  locate, whereis, find06:47
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vbgunzthen *or* go to www.gnome.org first and start there06:47
butcherbirdCryptid, fluxbox makes ubuntu look pretty nice :p06:48
ompauld2dchat, nip into #ubuntu-desktop and say what you did and ask there, I am not much use to you, but I can see useful when it happens :)06:48
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RockyBurthm... has anyone noticed that the fonts on ubuntu 5.10 preview are not good out of the box? or is it just me?06:48
vbgunzI made my Ubuntu look so sweet that I swore up and down and to everyone since I started playing with Ubuntu that i thought Linux would never look so good...06:48
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Cryptidadl, did u use gkrellm  and how much will u rate when compared to Gdesklets06:48
bipolarSeveas, I cant find a way to browse the packages. I keep getting redirected to /index.html, and thats all wget can download. Is there a trick I can use to get a copy I can mirror?06:48
WhiteRabbitkeikoz, ihop?06:48
keikozsorry ?06:48
WhiteRabbityes you are06:48
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d2dchatompaul, haha06:48
ompaul:)06:49
keikoz...06:49
B_166-ER-XStrog , Answer ; the only time i can see that its there is by a ls -la06:49
CryptidButcherbird, Flux box makes it look better than Gnome???can u direct me to some screenshots.06:49
adlCryptid, i think gdesklets is more powerful but i only spent one afternoon on this stuff ...06:49
Belutzompaul, are you coming to the meeting?06:49
bannermanCan anyone help me? ATI driver, 5.10, seems to be working but still shows Mesa in fglrxinfo... I've spent about 10 hours on this, been through several howto's. Pastebin with logs and confs: http://pastebin.ca/2404106:49
slibsany tips for making mkv videos working?, im still stuck with them :)06:49
adlCrypti, decided not to use it coz my desktop is never free to see anyway ;)06:49
ompaulBelutz, no06:49
^DodGeR^has anyone managed to get e17 working on ubuntu ? there a howto or some such ?06:49
Cryptidvbgunz, i tried every thing on the site and how i am tired ofthem all i have used almost all the themes and icon and skins on that site06:50
ompaulBelutz, for the next couple of hours food then local FSF meeting06:50
AnswerB_166-ER-X: How did you install it exactly?06:50
Belutz^DodGeR^, there's a how to in the forum06:50
slibs^DodGeR^: yes the'r many in the forum06:50
Belutzompaul, what is FSF?06:50
butcherbirdCryptid, I was mostly joking.  black and flux take a little more work but I do prefer my desktop to gnome06:50
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B_166-ER-XAnswer ; synaptic06:50
^DodGeR^sweet thanks06:50
ompaulfree software foundation06:50
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adlCryptid, www.gkrellm.net06:50
Belutzyup, gkrellm is good :D06:50
ompauld2dchat, actually there is a good page on doing that on the wiki.ubuntu.com site06:51
AnswerB_166-ER-X: Try removing and reinstalling,  it should appear if you did it with Synaptic06:51
vbgunzCryptid: I made my Ubuntu look good to my taste... I thought it was very customizable... what is it about it you don't like?06:51
YattaMaX[QUESTION]  :  how to modify the *boot procedure* of the Ubuntu Live CD ? (please reply me writing my nick in the answer or in private....thanks)06:51
YattaMaXI have to customizating the Ubuntu Live CD for a *blind* user, therefore I have to limit any question on boot (FIRST that X or GDM starting) .....carefully the screen resolution question on boot.         anyone can help me ?06:51
Belutz^DodGeR^, check this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=e70f685f411f8f06c777cfd308348df5&t=3052506:51
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d2dchatompaul, yea there are 30 ppl in the desktop channel, im not sure if they're awake06:51
dmacdonald111Belutz: I agree! I swear by gkrellm. Love all the skins too :)06:51
twoSharpI get an error when installing vmware in breezy. it says kernel compiled with gcc 3.4.5 and i try to use 4.0.2... what can i do to fix it?06:51
butcherbirdCryptid, the faq at art.gnome.org is a good place to start06:51
ompauld2dchat, ahh they could be in .au okay06:51
Cryptidbutcherbird, ok i will see that site06:52
vbgunzYattaMaX: the live disc doesn't ask much06:52
ompauld2dchat, but in this kind of thing hang about for 30 mins see if you get a reply06:52
bipolartwoSharp, use the CC veriable06:52
vbgunztell your buddy to hit enter three times...06:52
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B_166-ER-XAnswer ; still not showing up in menus or choice of programs to use06:52
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ompauld2dchat, lurking in channels is and having a look when you can is usual06:52
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annodhow much longer till the next version is officially released?06:52
bipolartwoSharp, CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 vmware-config or some such06:53
ompauld2dchat, lurking in channels is [usual]  and having a look when you can is usual06:53
Answeroctober 13th is the next release date06:53
d2dchatompaul, lol its like Chatmail?06:53
dooglusannod: 16 days06:53
ompauld2dchat, don't know that06:53
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StrogB_166-ER-X: I see btdownloadgui.bittornado in /usr/bin. Try that from a terminal06:54
AnswerB_166-ER-X: Can you launch the binary from the command line?06:54
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roshhello everyone06:54
YattaMaXvbgunz: ?06:55
roshanyone know of a dc client for ubuntu?06:55
groovehunteri installed kubuntu-desktop on a fresh ubuntu hoary via apt-get, set kdm as dm in the dialog. When i reboot will it start kde ?06:55
puffMorning.06:55
d2dchatompaul, I made it up, like you msg and wait for a day for a response;)06:55
CryptidWhat is Metacity and what is Gtk ?06:55
vbgunzYattaMaX: whatsup?06:55
puffrosh: DHCP client?  dhclient3?06:55
roshdirect conect protocol I mean :)06:55
groovehunterI cant test it, cause i did it for my via ssh06:55
roshconnect*06:55
vbgunzmetaicity is the overall look I believe and GTk is the controls on forms06:55
AnswerB_166-ER-X: In Synaptic if you click on the package and look at the Properties you should be able to see all the files it installed06:55
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ompauld2dchat, ahh06:55
groovehunterfor my dad06:56
B_166-ER-Xhm06:56
YattaMaXwhat do you want tell ?06:56
YattaMaXvbgunz: what do you want tell ?06:56
twoSharpbipolar should i write "CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 vmware-config" in terminal?06:56
YattaMaX(sorry, but my english is orrible)06:56
roshno such thing, huh?06:57
vbgunzYattaMaX: I didn't want to tell anything... I did say earlier, that you probably shouldn't worry about removing those questions from the live CD... you can consider it a small test on there part to see if Linux is for them... if they can't handle those prompts (very easy *but* maybe not eye pleasing) linux might not be for them...06:57
bannermanIs there a better channel with people who can help with driver problems?06:57
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[LethAL] Drivers for what, bannerman06:58
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B_166-ER-Xit works en entering the full command : r:/usr/bin$ btdownloadgui.bittornado but its not in the menus anywhere06:58
bannermanATI drivers, on ubuntu 5.1006:58
B_166-ER-Xnot very useful06:58
vbgunzSeveas: does GPA have a menu item? where would I select it from? I am currently using Alt+F206:58
[LethAL] bannerman, Ah, I've never used ATi cards06:58
ompaul!tell bannerman about ati06:59
ompaulbannerman, see what ubotu sent you06:59
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bannermanompaul: thanks, I've been through both of those about 5 times now.06:59
vbgunzis there anyway to encrypt the Ubuntu partition?06:59
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AnswerB_16-ER-X: Just right click on the menu and say "Add to PAnel"  Custom Application Launcher, and point it to /usr/bin/btmaketorrentgui06:59
bipolartwoSharp, the CC veriable should point to the version of gcc you want to use.06:59
bannermanThey're both pretty straight forward06:59
foampeacevbgunz: why?06:59
AnswerB_166-ER-X: Just right click on the menu and say "Add to PAnel"  Custom Application Launcher, and point it to /usr/bin/btmaketorrentgui06:59
foampeacevbgunz: just interested07:00
scanwinderis there a way to use an older version of a deb in apt.....i want to install an older version of font config and i cannot remove it first because of the other stuff it also removes07:00
ompaulbannerman, I strongly suggest you complain to ati about not delivering good enough specs to the free software community so that good drivers can be written07:00
bannermanompaul: Sure, I'll do that. In the meantime, I'd really like to use ubuntu, and 3d hardware acceleration07:00
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vbgunzfoampeace... i don't live in heaven although I wish I did... if someone broke into my house and stole my PCs i wouldn't want then getting into my information... Just curious as I use to encrypt my whole disk with PGP desktop 9 but am trying to get away from that... Any alternatives for Ubuntu?07:01
foampeacevbgunz: so others cant see the files?07:01
Answervbgunz: the government has a new technology that can read the data from any magnetic tape drive remotely, they don't even have to physically steal your pc anymore07:02
roshHow do i correct the port used by BitTorrent? I mean which config file should i edit?07:02
ompaulbannerman, what I have noticed is that most other people who get a look at that seem to have no problems is it possible that you should try a clean install with those drivers in hand and a print out of the page and see if that helps07:02
foampeaceAnswer: hows that?07:02
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Answerfoampeace: data-stealing-gammaray07:02
LokeDKIsn't there going to be an update for gaim? 1.5.0 would be nice07:02
bannermanompaul: I've done exactly that. About 5 times.07:02
foampeaceAnswer: hows that work?07:03
[LethAL] LokeDK, It's allready in breezy07:03
vbgunzAnswer: I wasn't talking about the Government :) Just I do not trust my neighborhood and just if ever I had to lose my PC I don't mind as I made backups and hide them... I got nothing to hide, i just don't want my private information in the wrong hands07:03
vbgunzever...07:03
boxerboy29<<learnign why i love ubuntu so much07:03
rob_pvbgunz:  Many would call you paranoid...  I think you'07:04
LokeDK[LethAL] , For hoary then? Not gonna upgrade before it's stable07:04
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rob_pvbgunz:  ...oops!07:04
rob_pvbgunz:  I think you are wise!07:04
[LethAL] LokeDK, you could download the deb file from the site and install it with dpkg...07:04
[LethAL] LokeDK, Although 2 weeks isn't that long...07:04
ompaulbannerman, what does this say >>grep ati /etc/X11/xorg.conf<<07:04
vbgunzrop_p I have thousands of accounts on my PC... I don't need them falling into the wrong hands ever... you can and the world can say whatever they want... Is there a way to encrypt the information so no one could ever access it but me?07:05
AnswerHow to ls for only directories?07:05
foampeacevbgunz: what about ccrypt...dont ask me what it is07:05
ompaulbannerman, only copy one line07:05
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LokeDKIs breezy going to be released in two weeks [LethAL]  ? thought it was.. uhm 23rd of October?07:05
boxerboy29it seems pretty much stable now but they cant say it is and im just meaning on my pc07:05
rob_pvbgunz:  Maybe you misunderstood me... I am agreeing with you!  :-)07:05
ompaul!breezy07:05
AnswerHow to ls for only directories?07:05
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade07:05
[LethAL] LokeDK, 13th07:05
LokeDKOh okay07:06
vbgunzrob_p: I am sorry :( It is just if I have to lose my pc I have no problem with it... I just cannot lose my life as I have digitized it...07:06
AnswerHow to ls for only directories?07:06
LokeDKguess I can wait then07:06
Mose`yo07:06
ompaulAnswer, first ask once07:06
ompaulAnswer, second ls -l07:06
ompaulAnswer, second ls -d aorry07:06
foampeacei cant find the quake3 arena point release for linux...where am i gonna find that07:06
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Answerompaul:  ls -d does not show all the directories07:07
vbgunzI just thought I ask... I just don't know where to begin and thought Linux being so security savvy would have an option like that built in... I just thought I ask...07:07
rob_pvbgunz:  You can encrypt the whole filesystem or just parts of it.  The choice is up to you.  Personally, I only encrypt my sensitive data and not the entire filesystem.07:07
boxerboy29lokedk: you can order the breezy cds now and they willl ship a pressed cd after it is released07:07
JDahlvbgunz, maybe you should look at filesystems/fileservers with encryption (e.g., openAFS)07:07
LokeDKboxerboy29, Ah cool... I'm gonna do that07:07
ompaulAnswer, are some of them symbolic links?07:07
Answerompaul: All of them must be :/07:08
twoSharpWhat package contains the C Headers?07:08
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JDahlvbgunz, but a word of caution: it's going to take a long time to setup and understand07:08
ompaulAnswer, well try this first ls -ad07:08
LokeDKSeems like there's a new ShipIt system, can I use my old login?07:08
boxerboy29i couldnt07:08
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vbgunzrob_p, how then do you encrypt just your sensitive data ... not in a archive but sort of like on the fly off the fly encryption?07:09
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Answerompaul:  the only thing it's showing me is .07:09
AstralJavaompaul: Here's what i get: jaska@jjod600n:~$ ls -ad07:09
AstralJava.07:09
zAo^breezy still slow?07:09
kamiro87hey. someone told me you can write to serial ports as if they where files. is this true and how would i do it?07:09
boxerboy29slow?07:09
kamiro87just echo to some file?07:09
vbgunzJDahl: thanks but can I still use Breezy with those File systems?07:09
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twoSharpbipolar: thanks but what package contains the c headers?07:09
AstralJavaompaul: Sorry, meant to add another line break there...07:09
JDahlvbgunz, yes07:09
zAo^boxerboy29, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=373585&posted=107:09
boxerboy29ty07:09
debuggerkamiro87, thats right. search for the "serial port howto" on google.07:09
boxerboy29ill look07:09
rob_pvbgunz:  http://koeln.ccc.de/archiv/drt/crypto/linux-disk.html07:10
kamiro87thankyou07:10
Dr_Williskamiro87,  echo  'atdt123' > /dev/serialportyawanbt07:10
vbgunzJDahl: I assume you mentioning it wouldn't be easy... I am guessing, it is not like setting up EXT3?07:10
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erchachehow i can put colors on vim to php syntax?07:10
AnswerI want the equivalent LS command for    dir /ad  in dos07:10
vbgunzrob_p: thank you man!07:10
bipolartwoSharp, kernel-headers I think.07:10
rob_pvbgunz:  no prob... good luck with it!07:10
twoSharpbipolar: thanks =)07:10
zAo^Answer, what does dir /ad show you? read manual? man ls07:11
bipolartwoSharp, linux-kernel-headers07:11
JDahlvbgunz, not all... it's a fileserver you install on your machine; whether you have ext2, ext3, vfat32 or whatever doesnt matter07:11
AnswerzAo^:  dir /ad  shows only directories.  I read the man page.07:11
ompaulAnswer, AstralJava  the man page seems to be wrong hmm must look at this07:11
puffNow that's odd... ubuntu just froze up on me... still had a video image of the desktop, but absolutely nothing I could do got any reaction, including trying to shift to the f1/f2/f3 terminals, and ctrl-alt-delete.  Finally had to hold down the power button.07:11
zAo^Answer, ls -ld *07:11
Answerpuff: I think it's ctrl+alt+f1  on mine07:11
twoSharpbipolar: i guessed so :)07:12
AnswerzAo^:  ls -ld *  shows all the contents.  I only want directories07:12
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vbgunzJDahl: oh ok, thank you... I will look into all options as soon as I have migrated over completely... I should be doing it before hand but thought now be a good time to start looking into it...07:12
bannermanompaul: nothing, no ati07:12
mumblesherm.. apt-gettign kde is bloady long07:12
bannermanompaul: I've compiled everything I can think of that is pertinent in a pastebin: http://pastebin.ca/2404107:12
snorksmumbles: you should try to emerge kde07:13
snorksmumbles: that would be twice as long07:13
mumbles:p07:13
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boxerboy29ive been using linuxquestions.org so much i forgot i was a member at ubuntuforums :(07:14
ompaulbannerman, the second half of that page gives a lot of troubleshooting info anything from there?07:14
puffAnswer: Yeah, I tried ctrl-alt-f1, shift-ctrl-alt-f1, alt-shift-f1, etc.07:15
bannermanompaul: second half of which page?07:15
puffAnswer: I was pretty sure it was ctrl-alt-f1 when you're in X, but I tried the others just to be sure.  I *hate* rebooting.07:15
ompaulbannerman, the ati page07:15
jkroghThe system fails to bring up the network after hibernation (breezy), which package should the bug be filed against?07:16
B_166-ER-XF7 and F8  ?07:16
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puffjkrogh: swsusp, maybe?  I've had similar issues, specifically with 802.11, not with wired.07:16
puffjkrogh: I've found that modprobe -r ipw2200, modprobe ipw2200, typically brings it back.07:16
bannermangrep ati /etc/X11/xorg.conf returns zero lines07:16
spiralhi07:17
jkroghBoth the wired and the wireless fails..07:17
puffBUT... the wireless (at that point) *still* doesn't show up in ifconfig output, I have to use the little networknig GUI applet.07:17
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snorksctrl+alt+cursor left/right works07:17
bannermangrp fglrx /etc/X11/xorg.conf returns Driver "fglrx"07:17
puffCheck dmesg?07:17
ompaulbannerman,  fglrxinfo into pastebin07:17
bannermanhttp://pastebin.ca/2404107:18
KasperTechHi. How well does Ubuntu run on a laptop (Zepto) ?07:18
njanKasperTech, how long is a piece of string?07:18
d2dchatwhen upgrading to breezy, do i need to change the top line to breezy too? the one about cdrom?07:18
njanKasperTech, it depends on the laptop.07:18
njanKasperTech, but as well as any other newish linux distro.07:18
KasperTechnjan: I see, if I could deliver some specs?07:18
puffhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/ThinkpadR5207:18
KasperTechThen it'd be easier to help me out, right.07:18
d2dchatdeb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.04 _breezy Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)] / breezy main restricted07:19
d2dchatthat one^07:19
puffwhoops, wrong URL I think; http://www.wahlau.org/so_far_so_good_but07:19
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d2dchatmake it 5.10 _breezy ?07:19
ompaulbannerman, OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc. .... is what should be there that means your07:19
keikozdo somebody knows what can do all that lines in my dmesg? : http://ubuntu-fr.pastebin.com/37593007:19
Kuoliobreezy is working a lot better on my lappy then hoary ever has07:19
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puffjkrogh: I'm pretty sure that swsusp is the package that does this stuff.07:19
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ompaulbannerman, that means that the first part of the getting of the driver is not right07:19
puffKuolio: I'm looking forward to upgrading.07:19
bannermanompaul: I'm aware of that. No offense, but it seems that I know as much about this as the people here at te moment :(07:19
bannermanompaul: thanks a lot for your help though man07:20
ompaulbannerman, well it means that the apt-get did not work07:20
Kuoliotoday, for the 1st time ever, i got powernowd working \o/07:20
bannermanompaul: the apt-get worked fine.07:20
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d2dchatis there any documentation for upgrading from hoary to breezy?07:21
bannermanompaul: If you read down, you'll see in dmesg that the fglrx module is loaded, and in Xorg.0.log, the last fglrx line is "(II) fglrx(0): Direct rendering enabled"07:21
ompauld2dchat,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade07:22
d2dchatompaul, thanks07:22
godricdoes anyone know of a php5 repository for ubuntu?07:22
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ompaulbannerman, look at line 208 is that your hardware?07:23
sigwhats the name of that program in gnome that zips, tars, etc... files?07:23
sigfile roller?07:23
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bannermanompaul: No. I run an ATI Radeon 9800 Pro.07:24
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ompaulbannerman, interesting Chipset: "RADEON 9800 PRO (R350 4E48)" (Chipset = 0x4e48)07:24
Belutzgodric, it's in backport, but you could wait until breezy is released07:24
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Dr_WillisBreezy works good on my laptop.. warty dident work worth a dang.07:24
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bannermanompaul: Retail Radeon 9800 Pro fro newegg07:25
bannermanompaul: about two months old07:25
larsrohdinIs anyone here good at xfce4? I cant get anyone to answer in #xfce...07:25
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BurgerMannIs there installed a ssh server with the server type installation?07:25
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dinlarsrohdin: what's the problem?07:25
BurgerManndefault I mean07:25
KasperTechScreen: 15" XGA+ Quality Screen. Processor: Intel P-M 1,733GHz Sonoma. RAM: 512MB DDR400/ PC3200. Harddisk: 40 GB 5400 rpms. Keyboard layout: DK (Danish) Tastatur. Optical unit: DVD-RW Dual Layer DVD-Burner. DVD/Burner software: Nero Express and WinDVD 4 software OEM. Wireless Network: Intel PRO/Wireless 54Mbit. O/S: No O/S. Service: 2 years Waranty. Safety software: 450 Dages Internet security Bullguard. kr 8.995,00 (equal to: 1456,21 American 07:25
KasperTechNjan.07:25
BelutzBurgerMann, no, you have to install it07:25
BurgerMannBelutz: thx07:26
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larsrohdinI was wondering if it is possible to set an alias for a command in xfrun? like the alias in bashrc...07:26
mumblesi get an error when i install kde07:26
BelutzKasperTech, are you advertising a notebook?07:26
Dr_Willislarsrohdin,  just make a little script that works the same as the alias - is one way07:26
mumbleswill try problem later07:26
dinlarsrohdin: sure, that's easy07:26
dinsymlink07:26
larsrohdinDr_Willis, a script file in /usr/bin?07:27
dinln -s /usr/bin/command_to_run /usr/bin/yourcommandname07:27
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Dr_Willislarsrohdin,  well each user can have their own /home/user/bin :P may be nicer07:27
ompaulbannerman, look at line three says mesa that is what is confusing me according to the wiki it should say ati07:27
bannermanompaul: Yes, that's true. Getting that to say ATI is my goal :-P07:27
d2dchati need help going over my sources.list file07:28
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Belutzd2dchat, what's the problem?07:28
d2dchatwell, i dont know what is valid and what isnt07:28
larsrohdindin, ok but if i want the command to be 'rox /mnt/share' for example, does ln -s /usr/bin/command_to_run /usr/bin/yourcommandname, work then?07:28
KasperTechBelutz: No, I'm trying to find out if it's a good one to buy, when I wish to run Ubuntu on it (with everything working)07:28
d2dchatBelutz, can i send u the file's contents?07:28
dinlarsrohdin: nope, here's what to do07:29
Belutzd2dchat, paste your sources.list into the pastebin07:29
d2dchatwheres thata gain?07:29
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dinedit /usr/bin/roxshare, and put that command in it07:29
Belutzd2dchat, /topic07:29
ompaulbannerman, I take it you have actually run sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop and killed off the module and done the install with the system not running X  (I believe you have done but may as well rule it out)07:29
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eMBeegood evening07:29
dinlarsrohdin: then chmod +x /usr/bin/roxshare07:29
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ompauleMBee, it is indeed :)07:29
BelutzKasperTech, i use NEC versa m540, ubuntu running just fine, except the built in card reader07:29
dinlarsrohdin: roxshare being whatever command you want07:29
bannermanompaul: Yeah, did that. A few times :)07:29
godricBelutz: What is the line for php5 in backports?07:29
ompaulbannerman, had to check07:30
Belutzgodric, let me check07:30
eMBeeanyone here still running warty, willing to help me verify a bug with the latest mozilla firefox security upgrade?07:30
larsrohdindin, ok just a script then... I was hoping for a easier way though07:30
bannermanompaul: Yeah. Anything you can think of, I'll try.07:30
bannermanompaul: At least twice.07:30
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SmittysWorkingThis is so screwed up!  My brand new Ubuntu install is doing the same thing yet again.  i am logging in to GNOME, but all I get is a brown screen with a pointer.07:30
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ompaulbannerman, very strange, I wonder is it just too new a card with some fuzzy bit of the card mucking with dpkg's mind07:31
godricBelutz: I'm following this howto: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_5.04_p5   .... php5 should work even though they are talking about install php4... Right?07:32
ompaulbannerman, by any chance is there onboard video?07:32
bannermanompaul: This time through, I'm using the driver from ATI. I used alien to convert from rpm to deb and installed it.07:32
bannermanompaul: Yes, I do have onboard video.07:32
eMBeethere is an advanced setting: "hide the tab bar when only one website is open", when i deactivate that, firefox is acting extremly wierd after i restart it07:32
ompaulbannerman, and it is turned off?07:32
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bannermanompaul: No. There's no option to disable it in the bios.07:32
SmittysWorkingCan anyone offer some advice as to why my GNOME isnt loading correctly?07:32
ompaulbannerman,  whaaaaaaaaaa07:33
adlSmittysWorking, nope, sorry07:33
bannermanompaul: Let's hear it for Intel.07:33
ompaulbannerman, lets not07:33
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adlSmittysWorking, whats wrong with your gnome?07:33
Belutzgodric, i just check, there is no php5 in backports, let me check that link07:33
bannermanHowever, I have checked, and my ATI card (according to lspci) is 1:00.0: 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R350 [Radeon 9800 Pro] 07:34
SmittysWorkingadl:  I just finished installing Ubuntu onto my Laptop.  No error messages.  I log in to the GUI and I am greeted with a blank brown screen and a pointer.  No bars, nothing.07:34
ompaulbannerman, okay find out if there is a new bios for that mobo so that you can flash it07:34
Belutzgodric, you could read this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44082&highlight=php507:34
rob_pSmittysWorking:  What do your system logs say?  There might be some clues as to what is hanging.07:34
bannermanompaul: Brilliant.07:34
adlSmittysWorking, can you switch to a normal terminal (like with ctrl + alt + f1)?07:34
ompaulbannerman, I do not believe at this point it is the software ..07:34
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SmittysWorkingadl:  Yes, I am looking at the regular terminal now.07:35
Belutzompaul, what's driver does bannerman use?07:35
bannermanompaul: Indirectly, software is involved :-P the card works fine with other distributions of Linux, and with Windows.07:35
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whyameyeI can't install the firefox dev files. I get   Depends: mozilla-firefox (=1.0.2-0ubuntu5) but 1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1 is to be installed07:35
ompaulbannerman, so thats one theory junked07:35
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Belutzwhyameye, have you installed firefox from backports?07:36
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ompaulbannerman, which versions of linux?07:36
butcherbirdSmittysWorking, out of curiosity breezy or hoary?07:36
adlSmittysWorking, strange things in /var/log/gdm/ maybe?07:36
ompaulBelutz, http://pastebin.ca/2404107:36
whyameyeBelutz, this is the version of Firefox that installed with the install CD. It looks from the Depends error like the dev code is older than the binary?07:36
Belutzwhyameye, i think from that error, you should upgrade to mozilla-firefox 1.0.7 first07:36
bannermanBelutz: bannerman is currently attempting to use the latest proprietary driver from the ATI web site per the instructions at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx07:37
whyameyeBelutz: I *am* running 1.0.7. And the depends error confirms this. But the dev code that Synaptic is finding is apparently older, and this appears to be the problem.07:37
bannermanompaul: 2.6.12-9-38607:37
Belutzwhyameye, have you try apt-get update?07:38
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ompaulbannerman, no I meant, you sit the card works fine with other versions not that you are using breezy :)07:38
ompaulbannerman, s/sit/said/07:38
ompaulbannerman, s/versions/distros/07:39
Belutzbannerman, are you on hoary/breezy ?07:39
whyameyeBelutz: geez. I should have tried that. Now it works! Thanks.07:39
bannermanBelutz: breezy07:39
Belutzwhyameye, :)07:39
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Belutzbannerman, hmm i haven't use breezy07:39
bannermanBelutz: Should I switch to hoary?07:40
Belutzbannerman, but anyhow, try to follow this step http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3249507:40
godricBelutz: I'm following this howto: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_5.04_p5   .... php5 should work even though they are talking about install php4... Right?07:40
whyameyeBelutz: So I am doing this to install the latest version of mplayer plug-in, as opposed to the 2.70 version on the repo. Is this dumb? Am I going to screw something up?07:41
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Belutzgodric, yes it talking about php407:41
`ph8Hello all07:41
brainsailis there a boot floppy image for ubuntu? my laptop can't boot from CD07:41
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`ph8I've just finished my breezy upgrade and i don't have a kde/x desktop07:41
Belutzgodric, read this page to install php5 http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44082&highlight=php507:41
ompaulbannerman, nothing for it but to hit the mailing list with a pastebin entry that contains all the steps you take and the output of same to do that do command | tee >> myrecord07:41
`ph8I'm a bit clueless as to where to start debugging it, i found it couldn't recognise fglrx (old config) and changed itb ack to 'ati' but i still get a blank screen after all the processes init then it just goes to terminal07:41
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godricBelutz: I'm following a howto on installing a mail server. They say to install php4. I'm wondering if php5 would work.07:42
Belutzwhyameye, no it won't screw things up07:42
`ph8any and all help gratefully received :)07:42
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bannermanompaul: Ok. Thanks for your time and help.07:42
bannermanBelutz: Ok, I'll try that.07:42
ompaulbannerman, we try07:42
Belutzgodric, well, my advice is to use php4 at the moment07:42
godrick<07:42
godricthank-you07:42
Belutzgodric, when breezy is out, you could try it with php507:43
vbgunzanyone here aware of a way to sign, encrypt, decrypt using GnuPG & GPA using *shortcut keys* while GPA is closed out?07:43
`ph8anyone? words of wisdom?07:43
vbgunzph8: what happened?07:43
`ph8i dist-upgraded07:43
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`ph8then i don't get a desktop on reboot07:44
vbgunzph8: I am sorry, I mean whats up07:44
butcherbirdbrainsail, friend of mine used debian floppies to install ubuntu once but never done it myself...07:44
`ph8what's the command to start it manually?07:44
`ph8the whole x/kde desktop environment07:44
Belutzompaul, why everyone is using breezy?07:44
brainsailbutcherbird, thanks07:44
`ph8just so i cansee any errors07:44
vbgunzmaybe sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start07:44
`ph8kdm?07:44
vbgunzoh you have KDE?07:44
`ph8i belive kdm is running07:44
`ph8but i have no desktop environment07:44
vbgunzI am sorry bro, I never used KDE :(07:44
`ph8if i could multi task, i could tell you :p07:44
`ph8irssi dominates the terminal atm07:44
`ph8but i'm pretty sure kdm is running07:45
`ph8but where does it log errors to?07:45
vbgunzyou on Ubuntu or Kubuntu?07:45
`ph8how do i debug it?07:45
`ph8etc07:45
`ph8Kubuntu07:45
`ph8the only difference is the presence of kde right?07:45
vbgunzDoes Kubuntu have a room of their own? If they do you might be better off there?07:45
vbgunzI am not sure if it is just KDE, I never used it and i am still new with Ubuntu :P07:46
`ph8I doubt it, since the two distributions are very close and all suppoted by ubuntu?07:46
vbgunzI wish I could help more07:46
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boxerboy29#kubuntu i would think if they have one07:46
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vbgunzph8: I like your handle... I wish I could help07:46
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vbgunzph8 I don't even know the difference between gksudo and sudo...07:48
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boxerboy29next time i say im gonna try a different distro plz hurt me07:50
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thrthr'lo got some problems booting the live CD (Kubuntu) on a Laptop... anyone that care to help?07:50
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thrthrOr well, getting in to X is the problem.. not the booting itself.07:50
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ozamosiSilly question: where do I set the language that synaptic uses?07:51
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ozamosiOh! The documentation-wiki-link in the topic is wrong07:52
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JloRHehe, 1 hour and 18 minutes later.. Still nothing on the screen. I think my install has stalled.07:55
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thrthrJloR: ;P07:55
JloRDoes anyone know approximately how long the resizing of a partition will take during the installation of Ubuntu Colony-5 (the preview) ?07:55
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threadis it safe to upgrade to breezy?07:55
boxerboy29whats wrong with the wiki page?07:55
ozamosiboxerboy29: is that for me?07:56
threador.. can I install gnome 2.12 on hoary?07:56
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boxerboy29the only thing i see thats not here is the backup command07:56
boxerboy29and multi universe (un supported)07:56
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JloRHmm, is there a manual way of performing the resize operation of the Installation ?07:57
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moomooboyumm can someone tell me how to play .mov files?07:57
JloRmoomooboy: you need QuickTime.07:57
JloROr a plugin/codec that can handle quicktime movies.07:57
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boxerboy29yes if your going from hoary to breezy off hand this seems right07:58
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boxerboy29everything is pretty much the same in that file for hoary and breezy in every line it should be breezy instead of hoary but without mine open hard to say07:59
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JloRAnyone know if there are known problems with the resize procedure of the installer in the preview (colony-5) ?07:59
J_Phi all07:59
JloRI'm on a console at the moment, so I can't look it up myself.07:59
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J_Ppeople, I am compileing one software and it say for me use : ./configure --with-mysql=<your MySQL root> --with-webdir=<your web directory> --with-cgidir=<your cgi directory>. OK, --with-webdir= is /var/ww, but what is dir --with-mysql=   and  --with-cgidir= ?08:00
boxerboy29ozmosi: please read the full page before upgrading08:01
JloRthe dir to you're MySQL server and you're CGI bin dir. I would think, isn't this covered in the README of the program? Or the INSTALL file.08:01
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ozamosiboxerboy29: what..?08:02
JloRThe resize feature of the preview of 5.10 sounded awesome, but right now I don't give a hoot for it.. Doesn't work at all.08:02
J_PJloR: ./configure --with-mysql=/usr/share/mysql/ --with-webdir=/var/www/ --with-cgidir=/usr/lib/cgi-bin/ ?08:03
boxerboy29the upgrade can cause problems due to it being in beta form so if you decide to upgrade back everything up first08:03
JloRMaybe, I don't know the Ubuntu directory tree, I've been a Gentoo user so far (and redhat/debian/mandrake/suse..).08:03
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JloRSounds about right.08:03
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JloRAnyone in here used the resize feature during the Install of Colony-5 (Preview of 5.10) ?08:04
boxerboy29nope i use colony 3 cd and i have muti hard drives resize isnt needed here08:05
boxerboy29for me anyway08:05
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JloRNah .. I can't have multiple harddrives tho' - I'm trying to install on a laptop.08:05
kentIs there a way to take a screenshot from gdm?08:05
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boxerboy29mandrake/mandriva is going to become a curse word to me very soon08:05
boxerboy29yes08:06
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JloRone and a half minute and it's been working on that resize thingy for one and a half hour...08:06
Ainvarheh trying to install snort on ubuntu is a pain in the rear08:06
boxerboy29the i think its settings on top08:06
boxerboy29and you should see screen shot08:06
JloR30 seconds..08:06
boxerboy29im not on my ubuntu right now08:07
roshIs there any way to change the port range used by Gnome BitTorrent?08:07
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JloRThere we go - worthless installer! one and a half hour of doing nothing.. That's pretty bad, even for an opensource project. I'll go back to pure windows till the official final 5.10 release is here.08:08
JloRHopefully it hasn't messed with my MBR yet..08:08
AinvarJloR the resize feature worked fine on my laptop08:08
JloRsure as .... didn't on mine.. How long did it take on yours? and what are the specs on it?08:09
Ainvarit took about 25 minutes to resize my HD to give me 7gigs of freespace to install Ubuntu08:09
JloRHow did you do it ?08:09
Ainvardell i6000d08:09
Ainvarused the guided menu08:09
Ainvarand read the steps to do it08:09
ryanakcahas anyone here ever used ISPConfig?08:09
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JloRAinvar: I used that menu-point that said "resize the harddrive" .. Or something similar. That froze up on me.08:10
butcherbirdJloR, why not just use partition magic, not sure I'd trust a preview release to resize my hd08:10
JloRis partition magic freeware ?08:10
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Ainvarsame software to resize the hd as on the hoary08:10
Ainvarno its not08:10
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BooZeehello08:10
JloRwell, that's your answer then.08:10
boxerboy29its not cheapware either08:11
BooZeei'm interested in antivirus for my ubuntu08:11
butcherbirdit is on isohunt :)08:11
seliniumBooZee, Why?08:11
boxerboy29lol08:11
rcaliseHas anyone had Flashplayer in firefox not render any text? I'm using Hoary.08:11
seliniumrcalise, Yes you need more fonts08:11
BooZeeselinium: safety?08:11
rcaliseselinium, thanks.08:11
boxerboy29from my understanding is that the viruses out for linux only attack email not files08:12
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seliniumBooZee, Are you sending files to a windows based machine?08:12
JloRAinvar: Would you mind spending a few minutes guiding me through - if I tell you what I can see on the menus of the installer? Just till I have a split harddrive...08:12
nerpBooZee, linux is for the better part virus free..08:12
AinvarJloR let me find a spare box to do the install08:12
Ainvarhold on08:12
BooZeeoh.. so no antivirus needed you say?08:12
nerpthere have been only a handfull of 'worms' for linux in the time it's been on the planet08:12
nerpyou don't need virus scan08:13
JloRAh, would be lovely!08:13
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rcaliseselinium, i assume they're available via Synaptic?08:13
seliniumBooZee, there is no need, the way that linux is structured the virus cannot gain access to your root.08:13
boxerboy29the 2 virus scans i had didnt work well they always asked me to update i did than 2 secs later ask me to update when i reopened it again08:13
seliniumrcalise, one mo08:13
nerpBooZee, you can get and use a virus scan for linux.. but it's mostly pointless unless you run a mailserver and wanna scan for windows viruses to protect mail recipients08:13
boxerboy29so now no more virus scans for linux for me08:13
BooZeeoh. well o.k. than08:14
AinvarJloR booting up now08:14
BooZeei have some more questions... how can I get a PGP key?08:14
nerpyou have to generate it08:14
JloRGreat.. I'm detecting hardware on my laptop.08:14
seliniumrcalise, pm?08:14
nerpneed to get gpg and then read the manual, gen your key and go08:14
rcaliseselinium, sure.08:15
BooZeehow do i get gpg?08:15
nerpsearch for it in synaptic08:15
nerpgnupgp08:15
JloRAinvar: Now I'm at the partitioning part. I can choose the first option which is "resize /part and use freed space" and erase the disk and manually edit partition table..08:15
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lesshastecan someone remind me how to mount an ntfs partition so any user can read it please?08:16
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Ainvarhold on forgot to throw on usb hd to do this on08:16
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Ainvardetecting hw now08:17
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JloRAh, sure thing. :)08:17
boxerboy29dont know sorry im hoping never to see ntfs file system again08:17
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Belutz!tell lesshaste about ntfs08:17
BurgerMannIs there somehwere I can find the usual bash commands...?08:17
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BurgerMannI'd like to pause the list, when I ls :s08:17
sorush20I can't run open office I've done ps aux but I can't see open office..08:17
BelutzBurgerMann, ls | more08:17
lesshasteBelutz: thanks... I just want to be reminded where the umask=755 goes on the command line :)08:17
XHKhow can i change files permissions08:18
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Belutzlesshaste, :D08:18
nerpXHK,  chmod08:18
BurgerMannBelutz: yah.. thx.08:18
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BooZeei see in synaptic that I have gnupg and gnupg208:19
BurgerMannWhere's the network configuration file for setting up local ips?08:19
nerpBooZee, get the latest one08:19
BooZeeand how do I use it?08:19
nerpXHK, don't pm me08:19
BelutzBurgerMann, /etc/network/interface if it's what you mean08:19
nerpBooZee, read the manual08:19
BooZeeo.k.08:20
XHKnerp, what comes after chmod then?08:20
nerpBooZee, this channel isn't for support of pgp it's for ubuntu08:20
erUSULBurgerMann: /etc/network/interfaces08:20
BurgerMannBelutz: it was :)08:20
nerpXHK, that depends on what you're trying to do08:20
henkeXHP, read 'man chmod' for detailed information.08:20
nerpXHK, what is your goal?08:20
BurgerMannsweeeet08:20
lesshasteok.. look :) Anyone could have just told me it is "-o umask 755"  :) !!08:20
henkebleh, that was meant for XHK.08:20
nerpyeah, read man chmod too08:20
XHKnerp, I cant change the text inside file and one file i cant even open08:21
ompaulBelutz, sorry was away, those who can afford to have a system break on them, those who are willing to test the next in line version. those who need some new drivers and hardware support that is coming along, those who don't know the risks and get upset when it breaks.08:21
Belutzlesshaste, because i never manually mount an NTFS drive :)08:21
nerpXHK, do you own the files?08:21
Belutzompaul, i see hehehe...08:21
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lesshasteBelutz: :)08:22
eMBeeback to work then...08:22
XHKnerp, eem what u mean?08:22
Belutzompaul, i want to try breezy, but i still need my ubuntu for work, so maybe i just wait, and just help on the launchpad and rosetta :)08:22
XHKnerp, i do have them, i just cant edit them08:22
nerpXHK, well if you do not own the files you do not have permissions to edit them08:22
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nerpXHK, what files are you trying to edit?08:22
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XHKnerp, start-pppoe08:23
nerpXHK, try sudo to edit the file08:23
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nerpsudo gedit path/to/file08:23
ompaulBelutz, such is the way of the world, on y 16 days left anyway, if I was you wait till the 17th day and download over torrent a CD of it in case the upgrade went wrong (it should not) burn that CD and then do a dist upgrade08:23
XHKnerp, how? :P Im totally newb at linux08:24
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nerpi just told you08:24
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BooZeedoes gpg has a GUI interface?08:24
nerpsudo gedit path/to/file08:24
Belutzompaul, yup, i will do that :) so are you in breezy now?08:24
nerpBooZee, if there is a gui I have never used it08:24
ompaulBelutz, yeap08:24
XHKnerp, ok ill go try =/08:24
ompaulBelutz, but all I am seeing is the xchat screen :)08:24
Belutzompaul, is it good? what are the improvement over hoary? beside the gnome 2.1208:25
Belutzompaul, lol08:25
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boxerboy29hoary didnt have open office 2 beta did it?08:25
ompaulBelutz, OO2 is an improvement, the menu has a few more nice things in it,08:26
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ompaulboxerboy29, correct08:26
kentUsing breezy, how come I cant get a normal gdm loginscreen when using xnest with xdmcp enabled?  I only get the gtk+ greatings..08:26
Madeyeall repos down08:26
boxerboy29kent you can change that once you log in08:26
boxerboy29kent you can choose themed or gtk08:27
ompaulMadeye,   Get:10 ftp://ie.archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release [30.9kB] 08:27
boxerboy29and with the lastest updates they put some nice ones in there08:27
kentboxerboy29, so i start xnest, login, and from there change it to use themed? Why cant I do that from the account im already using?08:27
ompaulright I must head off08:28
ompaulcheers08:28
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Belutzompaul, hmm... i have to tie my hands so i can't edit my sources.list lol08:28
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boxerboy29not sure what xnest is but if you log into gnome u can08:28
BooZeeboxerboy29: hey, it's me - bobobobo from couple days ago08:29
boxerboy29hi how are u08:29
BooZeeboxerboy29: do you mind if i'll msg you?08:29
boxerboy29go ahead08:29
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puffIs there a way I can get apt to download-but-not-install several packageS?08:30
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puffe.g. I want them around for later, but I don't want them fully installed right now.08:30
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concept10Anyone know why w32codecs were removed from breezy?08:30
Madeyepubuntu,  i think it's  -d08:30
puffapt-get -d, for download-only. Thanks.08:31
kentboxerboy29, I could not even start the configurationprogram for gdm from within xnest :(08:31
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Belutzconcept10, maybe because it is considered illegal?08:32
ryanakcaWhat is the difference between RSA certificates and DSA certificates?08:32
puffWhoops, I forgot I wanted to switch over to using aptitude only.08:32
puffIs there any way I can tweak/alias apt-get to keep me from forgetting that?08:32
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d2dchatlol, i upgraded to breezy and now my gnome wont start08:33
d2dchatdoes x have to be reconfigured?08:33
puffSo, I figured out what caused my laptop to freeze up, earlier.08:34
puffBecause it's repeatble.08:34
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puffI started up rhythmbox/mplayer for the first time, and it asked me to locate my mp3s, and then it started to scan them, and then the system froze.08:34
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d2dchatcan anyone help?08:34
puffctl-alt-f1/f2/f3/etc didn't work.  ctl-alt-del didn't work. Soft power switch didn't work.  Had to hold the power switch down and reboot.08:35
vladuz976anybody succeded with expert install of breezy? towards the end i always get that the cd in the drive is not an ubuntu cd. same with hoary08:35
d2dchati have problems starting up ubuntu can anyone help??08:36
d2dchati just installed breezy08:36
d2dchatand im stuck in console mode now08:36
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QMarioHello Amaranth!!! :)08:36
Seveasd2dchat, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:36
QMarioDo you remember me?08:36
Amaranthhi08:36
Amarantherr, sort of08:37
QMarioYou were the one that gave me the  symbols.08:37
Amaranthhehe, yeah08:37
QMarioYou said, "I love Unicode!"08:37
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hmrochahello08:37
hmrochaneed some help please08:37
QMarioIt's nice to hear from you again. :)08:37
hmrochawhat is the equivalent file to rc.local in debian?08:37
QMarioHello Seveas!!! :)08:37
boxerboy29kent: what is xnest?08:38
Seveashmrocha, creating your own initscripts is :08:38
Seveas:)08:38
Madeyeis archive.ubuntu.com down?08:38
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Seveasnot that I know08:38
whyameyehow can I restart ALSA?08:38
SeveasMadeye, nope, working fine here08:38
kentboxerboy29, it runs a X in a window. I need to take a screendump of the login-window, and this way was the only way i could think of..08:39
hmrochamy ubuntu doesn't have the file /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit08:39
Belutzyay.... Seveas is in da house08:39
Answerhmrocha: man update-rc.d08:39
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d2dchati tried the dpkg-reconfigure command and it said my dpkg is broken08:39
MadeyeSeveas, Err http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/restricted Sources08:39
Madeye  Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (82.211.81.182). - connect (113 No route to host) [IP: 82.211.81.182 80] 08:39
Seveashmrocha, that's because that's a non-standard file...08:39
hmrochaSeveas, hmm, ok08:40
Seveasstop thinking redhat :)08:40
boxerboy29kent im sorry im not real sure than08:40
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SeveasMadeye, somewhere on the route between you and the archive there's a problem08:40
d2dchathow do i reinstall dpkg-reconfigure?08:40
kentAny body who knows how to take a screenshot of gdm?08:40
Belutzwhyameye, try "sudo killall alsa" and then "sudo alsa &"08:40
Seveasd2dchat, apt-get install --reinstall debconf08:41
Seveasdang08:41
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[LethAL] kent, Use XNest08:41
nerpkent, Xnest -geometry 1024x768 :1 -query localhost &08:41
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nerpor whatever your resolution is08:42
kib0excuse me, i have a little problem. when i try to login, my alphabetic keyboard is dead :S08:42
nerpxnest has to be enabled tho08:42
whyameyeBelutz: actually I just tried "sudo /etc/init.d/alsa restart" which seemed to work. Is this in essence doing the same thing?08:42
Seveasdon't use xnest directly08:42
QMarioSeveas, are you a C++ programmer?08:42
BelutzSeveas, is tracepath is the same with traceroute ?08:42
SeveasThe good way is: gdmflexiserver --xnest08:42
QMarioIt seems that you are highly affiliated with Ubuntu. :)08:42
SeveasBelutz, yes08:42
Belutzwhyameye, yes it's the same thing, and what you did is a better way than what i just told you :)08:42
SeveasQMario, i like to stay as for from that language as I can08:43
kentnerp, [LethAL]  , I just tried using Xnest.  But then I dont get a themed login, only the gtk+ greating :(  (im using breezy)08:43
xiaogilwhat soft on windows can i use to receive file via ssh from ubuntu ?08:43
Seveaskent, gdmflexiserver --xnest08:43
[LethAL] kent, set the login to themed for remote users08:43
jjazzxiaogil:  The putty website has an sftp program08:43
[LethAL] Or that08:43
Seveasxiaogil, winscp or pscp (the latter is from putty)08:43
QMarioSeveas, even though this is slightly off topic, what do you think is the best OOP language to learn?08:43
whyameyeBelutz: okay, thanks. BTW I think you were the one helping me with the mplayer plug-in install. It all worked out. I have 3.11 now in Firefox. Firefox still quits on me sometimes though...08:43
SeveasQMario, python. If you wanna know more -> #ubuntu-offtopic08:44
Belutzwhyameye, firefox close unexpectedly?08:44
kentSeveas, should I start gdm with that? gdm is started from the scripts, so im unsure where to put that line..08:44
jjazzQMario:  Go for Perl!  ;)08:44
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whyameyeBelutz: yes it does. I thought it was related to the mplayer plugin. Now I am not sure.08:44
kentSeveas, oh, nevermind. It works now. Thanks! :)08:44
Seveaskent, just in a regular terminal when you're logged in :)08:44
butcherbirdQMario, another vote for python ;)08:44
Seveasah -- k :)08:44
kib0excuse me, i have a little problem. when i try to login, my alphabetic keyboard is dead :S08:45
kib0o_O08:45
QMarioSorry, Seveas. :'(08:45
foampeacehttp://artlung.com/smorgasborg/C_R_Y_P_T_O_N_O_M_I_C_O_N.shtml08:45
Belutzwhyameye, if you want to do some test, you could remove the mplayer plugin and test the firefox, if it's run fine, then it has something to do with the mplayer plugin08:45
whyameyeBelutz: that's a good idea.08:46
Belutzwhyameye, :)08:46
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boxerboy29lil off topic but is ubuntu written in c?08:47
[LethAL] Parts of it probably are08:47
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[LethAL] I doubt all of it is ;)08:48
whyameyeI imagine a good part of the Kernel is in C...08:48
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boxerboy29oh ok ty08:49
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Belutzi thought it's written in english.... lol *just kidding*08:50
J_Panyone here use ZONEMINDER ?08:50
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[LethAL] Does anyone have any idea why the interface on my wireless adapter seems to disappear occasionally? It leaves me with it's drive and the only way I can find to get it back is to ureinstall the drivers in windows :S08:50
lesshaste anyone got google earth to run in wine or anything else? :)08:50
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Seveasboxerboy29, 'Ubuntu' is written in zulu08:51
Seveasthe programs in Ubuntu are written in a large variety of programming languages08:51
JloRNo it's not.. It's writting in my irssi at the moment..08:51
[LethAL] LOL08:51
boxerboy29oh ok well thats not an option than :(08:51
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QMarioSeveas, Zulu?08:51
JloRwritten*08:51
xiaogilactually, i need a soft on windows which is same as gftp to transfer files via ssh08:51
SeveasQMario, yes, zulu08:52
Seveasxiaogil, winscp08:52
JloRxiaogil: FTPRush08:52
xiaogilok, thanks08:52
DJ_Miragexiaogil, winscp08:52
Seveasor any ftp program that does sftp08:52
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JloRhehe08:52
DJ_Miragewinscp pwns everything08:52
JloRwinscp is freeware, so use that. FTPRush is trial stuff.08:52
DJ_Miragehttp://winscp.net/eng/index.php08:52
BooZeewhat's the diffrence between "apt-get update" and "apt-get dist-update" ?08:53
boxerboy29im learning C adn was hoping once i get better at it to write my own os but by what im seeing is i would have to learn a few laungauges08:53
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DJ_Miragei guess you mean upgrade and dist-upgrade :?08:53
BooZeeyes08:53
smottboxerboy29: haha :(08:53
DJ_Mirageim not sure, anyone correct me if im wrong, but i think dist-upgrade is the safe method08:53
deFryskBooZee, dist-upgrade also installs replaces xtra packages if the deps require that , upgrade does not08:53
XHKOmg, i tried to log into ubuntu but it said that my homedirectory doesent exist S:08:53
thrice`dist-upgrade is safe08:54
boxerboy29it sounded like a good project to work on lol08:54
deFryskthrice`, dist-upgrade is not always safe\08:54
XHKdo i have to reinstall ubuntu?08:54
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foampeaceshould all software be free or just OS?08:54
thrice`deFrysk, when wouldn't it be... ?08:54
kennethloveXHK - what was the error?08:54
deFryskthrice`, lest say when x is broken ?08:54
DJ_Miragefoampeace, let me add to that, should all beer be free, or only party-beer ?08:55
Seveasfoampeace, this is not an advocacy channel (#ubuntu-offtopic would be better) but imho free is the way to go08:55
tux-roxfoampeace, It should depend entirely on what the developer wants.08:55
XHKkennethlove, dont remember exactly, but it said my homedirectory doesent exist enimore08:55
XHKanymore08:55
kennethloveXHK can you ssh into the box from another?08:55
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XHKssh?08:55
DJ_Miragemkdir XHK && chmod 745 XHK && chown XHK:XHK XHK08:56
kennethloveXHK: what are you on right now?08:56
DJ_Mirageshould be fixed there08:56
XHKwindows08:56
JloRI'm all for free software - but authors have the right to restrict the origin of the software to be from his webpage/company only. Source code can be open or not open, see if I care :)08:56
BooZeewhen I start my comp, the ubuntu login screen shows up with another screen resolution than my resolution which I configured. after I log in, the resolution changes to mine. how can I prevent it?08:56
XHKDj_Mirage whats that?08:56
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XHKDj_Mirage, do i have to type it into terminal?08:57
[LethAL] DJ_Mirage, that won't work, his username is different08:57
DJ_MirageXHK, its 3 commands, the first makes a directory with your username, the second sets the permissions accordingly, and the last sets the commands08:57
DJ_Mirageok08:57
d2dchatmy dpkg package is broken, how do i fix it??08:57
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DJ_Mirageand it should be done in /home as well :\08:57
FrdPrefctHello.08:57
XHKok08:57
FrdPrefctAnyone know the release date for breezy :)08:57
[LethAL] 13th OCt08:57
XHKill go ttry08:57
d2dchatit broken when trying to upgrade to breezy08:57
kennethloveXHK: to use the commands DJ_Mirage gave you, you'll have to be logged into the box08:57
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d2dchatFrdPrefct 2 weeks08:58
foampeace[LethAL] : is that a friday?08:58
Seveasfoampeace, thirsday08:58
Seveasiirx08:58
[LethAL] Yeah, Thurs08:58
FrdPrefctCool.08:58
foampeaceheh08:58
FrdPrefctCan't wait  ;)08:58
FrdPrefctCan anyone help me, or direct me on how to make deb packages?08:58
devioswhat are the big new features for Breezy?08:58
d2dchatFrdPrefct, well seeing that im trying to install breezy right now, i dont know lol08:58
JloRI have to buy a few CDr-s for sure..08:58
DJ_Miragekennethlove and XHK, more importantly you should do that with root privileges as well ;(08:58
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FrdPrefctd2dchat: Running it on 2 of my machines at home... very nice08:59
d2dchatFrdPrefct well when i tried, X stopped working and is broken, i dont know how to fix the pacakge08:59
kennethloveDJ_Mirage: i'm not sure XHK can even get onto his box right now.08:59
FrdPrefctd2dchat: Found a bug the other day while doing upgrades... wanted to update some xorg font stuff, but it thought it was in another package, and refused to move forward08:59
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XHKIll go try08:59
DJ_Miragekennethlove, then thats a problem =D08:59
FrdPrefctfigured i'd wait a couple days, and it'll be fixed.08:59
XHKif it wont work ill reinstall09:00
kennethloveyes it is.09:00
FrdPrefctwasn't a show stopper at all09:00
d2dchatFrdPrefct well I cant even access Gnome09:00
FrdPrefctBut, anyways, I wanna learn hwo to create deb packages09:00
FrdPrefctReally?  Wow09:00
xTinaFrdPrefct: You want to read up on the New Maintainer resources at debian.org09:00
FrdPrefctcool09:00
d2dchatFrdPrefct think you could help ?;)09:00
d2dchatI need to get dpkg-reconfigure working09:00
JloRd2dchat: you can't login to your box from the graphical screen, or in general?09:00
d2dchatit broke09:00
FrdPrefctcheckinstall works, but it's not really what I want09:01
JloRah, nvm.. Wrong person.. Who couldn't log into their box ?09:01
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d2dchatright, it skips GUI and goes straight to console09:01
[LethAL] Could someone explain why I have a blank CD after burning it?09:01
xTinaFrdPrefct: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/index.en.html is a good start09:01
d2dchatit said something about K not being default and so it wont use it or something09:01
jbroome[LethAL] : my guess is that the burn didn't work09:01
JloRCan't you set the default session at the login menu ?09:01
[LethAL] jbroome, But why didn't it say anything?09:01
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d2dchatyes, in console, but thats it09:01
d2dchatX auto starts usually09:02
d2dchatX broke09:02
d2dchatso i need to fix it, but dpkg broke too!09:02
d2dchat:(09:02
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moparfan90hello i am trying to run a exucutable and i get this  :  moparfan90@ubuntu:~/Desktop/vdrift-2005-09-01-bin$ ./vdrift09:02
moparfan90./vdrift: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL_image-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory09:02
deviosanyone make a wiki entry for upgrading to breezy without using the install media yet?09:02
moparfan90what should i do?09:02
JloR:\ Does GDM work ? The ubuntu login screen thingy..09:02
FrdPrefctxTina: Yeah, already there, thanks09:02
[LethAL] !tell devios about upgrade2breezy09:02
[LethAL] You mean that?09:02
d2dchatJloR lol, im in console mode....09:02
FrdPrefctNow if I can figure out a way to print everything out...09:02
JloRAh, so X doesn't start at all? I'm out of ideas then.09:03
DJ_Mirage[LethAL] , does that command send pm or notice ? or isnt there something to tell yet ?09:03
kemikmoparfan90:  try installing libsdl-dev09:03
d2dchathaha, yes i was trying to explain the entire time;)09:03
JloRI'm sorta slow :)09:03
moparfan90ok ill try09:03
[LethAL] DJ_Mirage, pm09:03
d2dchatJloR usually you can get X back up if you do dpkg-reconfigure09:03
DJ_Mirage!tell DJ_Mirage about upgrade2breezy09:03
JloRAlso, I'm not used to X on linux..09:03
JloRokay.09:03
DJ_Mirageokay thansk =D09:03
d2dchatJloR but in this case dpkg-reconfigure is broken too:(09:03
[LethAL] You could /msg ubotu upgrade2breezy instead ;)09:04
JloRYea, that's a problem then..09:04
d2dchatindeed09:04
JloRcan't you re-get it or something with apt-get?09:04
moparfan90kemik, it said that thats already installed????09:04
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JloRI'm from the Gentoo community, and we usually re-emerge if needed...09:04
d2dchatJloR what is the command to get it?09:04
d2dchatJloR as was i;)09:04
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JloRapt-get install <package> I suppose..09:04
kemikmoparfan90:  sounds weird...09:04
moparfan90i get the same thing if i try to install 3 other games also09:05
JloRNever really used debian based distros - but ubuntu is nice for my laptop, and i need linux on it, so no choice :)09:05
kemiksomethings fubar09:05
devios[LethAL] , thanks09:05
[LethAL] Your face?09:05
[LethAL] :D09:05
moparfan90seveas, can you help me please? i dont know what to do i get this error when try to run a exucuable :   ./vdrift: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL_image-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory09:06
DJ_Miragebrb09:06
d2dchatdoes anyone know if this is the right command to get X back up and running?:09:06
d2dchatsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?09:06
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JloRBy the way - does anyone know if it possible to install Ubuntu as a secondary OS ? So I use the bootmanager of winXP and are able to boot into either WinXP (on boot partition) or Ubuntu ?09:07
kemikmoparfan90:  libsdl-image1.2-dev get that package09:07
moparfan90ok thanks09:07
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kemikd2dchat:  it could be. depends on what the error is09:07
d2dchatJloR when you install ubuntu it will ask if you if you want to use GRUB as a multiboot system09:07
LasseLI miss the "extract to folder" option of winzip when I right-click an archive in nautilus09:07
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JloRYea, but I have my winXP installed already. I wanted to install ubuntu as secondary system.09:07
d2dchatkemik, it says xserver-xorg is broken or not fully installed09:08
JloRSo I wouldn't have to re-install my winXP and all the programs I have there.09:08
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d2dchatJloR right, thats the point, you instert the ubuntu cd and it will install grub and dual boot09:08
deviosJloR, should detect winxp during setup and give you option to boot to winxp09:08
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JloROh, okay.. Even though I let winXP reside on hda1 ?09:08
BelutzLasseL, there's a script for it, you might want to take a look at http://g-scripts.sourceforge.net09:09
d2dchatit would be nice have to have two hds for dual boot but i think you can make two partitions on one harddrive with different OS's, but im not sure09:09
LasseLBelutz, thanks, I'll check it out09:09
deviosJloR, sure that there's an official guide for this somewhere, but http://www.zerocalm.com/2005/05/os-reinstallation-ms-windows-xp-and.html09:09
egaHi all... someone have problems with last 2.6.12-9-XXX kernels... if i install it in breezy i can start my machine, it show an error message like "ALERT! /dev/hde1 does not exist, dropping to a shell!"... and also print that some files are missing...09:09
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JloRthanks devios.. I'll try and read that (I'm in console atm, on a server machine.. So I'm without GUI).09:09
egascuse... i can't09:10
deviosJloR, should render ok....09:10
egaand with 2.6.12-8-XXX works fine09:10
d2dchatahh no one knows my problem:(09:10
moparfan90i got this error now :Video mode set failed: Couldn't find matching GLX visual     please help ,me09:10
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LasseLBelutz, any one of them you like better? http://g-scripts.sourceforge.net/cat-archiving.php ?09:10
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kemikd2dchat:  did you breezy-upgrade?09:11
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JloRYea, renders nicely.09:11
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kemikmoparfan90:  GLX? got GL support on your videocard? good videocard drivers?09:11
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sunshineseveras ask you a question09:12
moparfan90i have a realy good video card dont know about the drivers09:12
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moparfan90nvidia GeFource FX 520009:12
JloRBut this person that wrote this guide is doing it on two harddrives, I only have one.09:12
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sunshineseveas are u there09:12
Seveassunshine, yes09:12
ollie_Hi again 2 all.09:12
sunshinewhy is before i could not get on here but now i can09:12
the_watchtowerhey folks09:13
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kemikmoparfan90:  not a really-good card, but sure its fine :)   i would recommend you to use the nvidiadrvers09:13
sunshinebefore it ask me for my password09:13
kemik!nvidia09:13
uboturumour has it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia09:13
sunshineand now it just connect me through09:13
Seveassunshine, because during spambot showers we lock this channel09:13
d2dchatkemik yes i tried to upgrade to breezy09:13
d2dchatand thats whats giving me problems09:13
kemikmoparfan90:  since i got an ati card, i cant support you on the nvidia install09:13
ringeHi, is NDISWRAPPER broken in breezy again?09:13
Seveasonly registered users can enter at such times09:13
the_watchtowerI am still trying to figure out welcome.msg used by proftp09:13
kemikd2dchat:  i answered you in pm...09:13
sunshineso why did you cancel everyone out of the other channel09:13
sunshinewhat is spambot09:14
kemiksunshine:  a bot that spams09:14
sunshineohhh09:14
d2dchatkemik hehe i dont know how to check PM in bitchx;)09:14
kemiksunshine:  ie: a computer program designed to spam ppl on irc09:14
d2dchatbitchx in console mode09:14
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Seveasbecause it's a spambot trap, spambots are IRC robots that join a channel, send spam to everyone and leave09:14
kemikd2dchat:  there's no other mode in bx than console that i'm aware of ;)09:14
d2dchaterr lol, that last statement was reduntant09:14
d2dchati was about to say that09:14
d2dchathehe09:14
the_watchtowerubotu, tell gary about welcome.msg09:14
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moparfan90ok09:14
d2dchatkemik how do i check PMs?09:15
sunshineahh i see so this one is now safe to you cancel everyone out of the other on09:15
egaDoes someone knows about kernel issues?, please?09:15
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kemikd2dchat:  basically i told you that you either struggle with getting X to work (and i cant help, maybe someone else in here/the forums) or you install hoary and wait with breezy til it's stable =)09:15
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kemikd2dchat:  i never use bx.. for consolechat irssi is superio09:15
kemiksuperior09:15
boxerboy29good morning linner09:15
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d2dchatwell i was wondeirng if you knew how to reinstall dpkg to get it working?09:15
sunshinei still dont know my password how do I find out what iit is09:16
linnerboxerboy29:  hey there  :)  Just turned afternoon here :)09:16
boxerboy29linner sorry was thinking 4 hrs :(09:16
the_watchtowerI am still trying to figure out welcome.msg used by proftp09:16
linnerboxerboy29:  no worries :)09:16
boxerboy29:)09:16
kemikd2dchat:  nopes... but was it dpkg that was broken? or X ?09:17
linnerboxerboy29:  let me ask you a very easy question... is that ok?09:17
the_watchtowerlinner hey linner09:17
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boxerboy29linner if its easy i can help09:17
boxerboy29lol09:17
linnerthe_watchtower:  hello :)09:17
rebortcan anyone look at ug 16479?09:17
the_watchtowerlinner, I use to be garyc09:17
rebortmy b, f and p keys do not work (the keyoard shortcuts dialog sees them as09:17
rebortX86AudioNext, X86Audiorev and X86Audiolay, resectively)09:17
linnerboxerboy29:  what directory is the path to my inf-file (windows wireless-lan driver).09:17
thoreauputicthe_watchtower: did you get my /msg es re: ftp etc?09:18
linnerthe_watchtower:  oh okay... why the nick change?  just 'cause?09:18
thoreauputicyesterday09:18
d2dchatOMG09:18
linnerthoreauputic:  hello :)09:18
boxerboy29linner: you said easy :(    no really i dont have  aclue09:18
the_watchtowerlinner, still trying to figure out welcome.msg use by proftp09:18
thoreauputichi linner :)09:18
d2dchatDOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO REINSTALL dpg-reconfige??09:18
d2dchat:(09:18
the_watchtowerlinner you mean now09:18
linnerboxerboy29:  at least you're honest :)09:18
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linnerthe_watchtower:  ah hah09:18
sunshinei need my sound does anyone know how I can get it to work09:18
d2dchatdpkg*09:19
the_watchtowerlinner I guess not -  will you give it to me again09:19
linnerthe_watchtower:  give what to you dear?09:19
boxerboy29linner sorry but i dont use windows nor do i use wireless09:20
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linnerboxerboy29:  no it's for linux.. I'm trying to install the ndiswrapper09:20
linnerboxerboy29:  is ok though... seriously not a big deal09:20
the_watchtowerthoreauputic, I dont think I am getting the messeges09:20
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sunshinedoes anyone know how to fix sound09:20
linnerthe_watchtower:  thoreauputic is looking to talk with you09:20
rebortcan anyone hel me with ug 1647909:20
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BooZee!ubutu09:21
ubotuBooZee: Bugger all, i dunno09:21
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BooZee!ubutu help09:21
ubotuBooZee: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?09:21
thoreauputicthe_watchtower: ah - I sent you several /msg es yesterday telling you the result of my ftp attempts to your server09:21
kemikd2dchat:  apt-get re-install dpkg09:21
d2dchathey ubotu, i thought you were a bot:-P09:21
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BooZee!ubutu tell about gpg09:21
ubotuBooZee: I give up, what is it?09:21
the_watchtowerthoreauputic, oh yesterday  yes yes09:21
sunshinedoes anyone know how to fix sound09:21
JloRWhat's you guys thoughts on using LVM instead of extX as primary file system?09:22
kemik--reinstall even09:22
j5yi have a HD on 80 GB and want to install / and /home on seperate partitions, how big space should i set off to the / ?09:22
thoreauputicOK - just checking becuse I had to leave :)09:22
whyameyesunshine: what exactly is wrong with your sound? How have you tested it?09:22
the_watchtowerthoreauputic, I could not get vsftp to work so I put in proftp09:22
J_PI install mysql via apt, i need identifies the root directory where you have installed MySQL, what is thi dir ?09:22
boxerboy29seveas: i was just asked a question that might be good if there was a fix09:22
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sunshinei cant hear it09:22
BooZeecan someone here please answer some newbie's questions in private?09:23
the_watchtowerthoreauputic, now I have my users jailed in their home dir  --  looks like root to them09:23
boxerboy29the log-in screen resolution is set to well high is there a way to change that to say a lower one?09:23
sunshineican see the dvd  and see the cd playing but i cant hear it 've test my speakers they work fine09:23
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nerpany of you people know of a tool or utility I can use to search a dir for duplicate files? (trying to search for duplicate mp3's in my music dir 20+GB)09:23
thoreauputicthe_watchtower: ah Ok - problem solved then!09:23
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whyameyesunshine, do you get sound in any apps?09:23
sunshineno thing09:23
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vrlnanyone on breezy here (and in gnome)? Could someone check the binary name of the app that lets you edit the grub menu09:24
reborti cant use uuntu unless 16479 is resolved09:24
whyameyesunshine if you type xmms in the terminal window, does it report any errors for sound?09:24
the_watchtowerthoreauputic, I am just trying to use the welcome banner.  It is in a file called welcome.msg09:24
vrlnit's not bum (that's for the runlevels)09:24
foampeacecan someone explain this? what should i do? http://pastebin.com/37609009:24
jMCgre09:24
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jMCgi'm still searching for i8bla-rotate09:24
catfoxthis might be an annoying question, but can't see anything in the forum. but is anyone having troubles logging in to their system with breezy today? i try to log in but i go back to a command line09:24
sunshineit bring up the xmms player and say message device hw:0009:24
the_watchtowerthoreauputic, a line in the proftpd.conf refers to this file09:24
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the_watchtowerthoreauputic, do you use an ftp client or just firefoc09:25
the_watchtowerthor thats firefox09:25
jMCgit's a which i so far have only seen for ubuntu -- for intel chipset based laptops -- to switch the vga output09:25
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teh_pwnerbout time -_-09:25
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thoreauputicthe_watchtower: I mostly use lftp - sometimes gftp if I feel lazy ;)09:26
the_watchtowerthoreauputic, do you use an ftp client or just firefox09:26
matrix:|09:26
foampeaceshould these errors be here? http://pastebin.com/376090 can i make them go away?09:26
thoreauputic^^^09:26
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whyameyesunshine, if you type cat /proc/asound/cards does it list your card?09:26
boxerboy29lmao at can i make them go away09:26
catfoxany ideas anyone? there's no way of logging into my system right now09:26
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d2dchat_what is the dpkg-reconfigure command again?09:26
matrixok anybody wanna tell me to setup my themes please :)09:26
foampeaceboxerboy29: what so funny?09:26
JloRjMCg: I successfully used that hotkey on my intel based laptop (with the colony-5 preview LiveCD).09:26
the_watchtowerdo you mind doing some more testing.  I want to see if my banner is working09:26
boxerboy29hold on let me look at errors09:27
qt2ARGH! >_<09:27
matrix^_^09:27
sunshineyes it display 2 of them09:27
thoreauputicthe_watchtower: using FF ?09:27
d2dchat_I attempted this command:09:27
foampeaceboxerboy29: the modules are loaded...dont know what that error is though09:27
foampeacethose errors09:27
jMCgJloR, it's not like i.. uhm.. *cough*.. it's just.. i don't wanna use ubuntu ._.09:27
qt2this really sucks..09:27
JloRhehe, oki09:27
rebortug 16479 is ad!09:27
foampeacelooks like the errors were a 2nd time after already being loaded09:28
JloRwhich distro do you want to use then ?09:28
qt2as soon as somethin allocates a lot of memory, it segfaults ;;<09:28
jMCgJloR, i'm quite satisfied with my current distro.. it's slim small and i relly love and hug it -- it's ArchLinux09:28
boxerboy29its says they exsist so i got the feeling they are loaded maybe wrong drivers?09:28
JloRAh, yea, I've heard good things about that.09:28
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jMCgJloR, but i need this thing for presentations.09:28
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foampeacewould depmod -a work?09:28
Auxinhi guys..09:28
Auxini just installed breezy, where do i get skype for breezy?09:29
jjazzjMCg:  Why can't ArchLinux do presentations?09:29
boxerboy29dont know never had to use that command09:29
whyameyesunshine, have you played with the multimedia systems selector in the system -> preferences menu?09:29
reborthas anyone heard o anyone else with the keyoard issue (#16479)09:29
JloRSame reason I'm putting Ubuntu on my laptop .. I need linux on it, and I need to output video on it as well (for TVs and so on).. Since I'm lazy as all he** I'll choose a distro that does that work for me.09:29
catfoxany ideas how i can try to fix my system if there's no way of logging in?09:29
d2dchatAuxin lucky you, when i tried installing breezy, i ended up in console:-P09:29
Auxinbtw. how post-install *.debs?09:29
Auxinthx d2dchat ;)09:29
the_watchtowerthoreauputic, no i believe we need to use a client.  FF already doesn't show the banner09:29
JloRI'm originally 100% Gentoo :)09:29
jjazzjMCg:  Ah... video.  Yes.09:30
boxerboy29and im not real sure  what it is but looks like a video card errors thats what made me think the wrong drivers09:30
the_watchtowerthoreauputic, the ip address is changed to  66.142.90.3609:30
sunshinei've tryed testin but I cant hear anything when it is bein tested09:30
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jjazzcatfox:  You can't log in at the command line?09:30
catfoxjjazz: nope. it just takes me back to the command line.09:30
qt2damnit!09:30
thoreauputicthe_watchtower: well, I don't think gftp would either - and of course lftp is command line so unless it's an ASCII banner...09:30
cevizogluis it possible to make a binary which runs on ppc ubuntu and i386 ubuntu?09:30
whyameyesunshine, do you have 2 sound cards or something? Is it possible it is sending to the wrong one?09:30
jMCgjjazz, when i press fn-F5 it screws my screen09:30
foampeaceboxerboy29: ok ill reboot and tell you is depmod -a worked09:30
jMCgwhich does NOT look good in presentations.09:31
boxerboy29ok ty09:31
jjazzcatfox:  You log in at the command line and it just logs you out?09:31
qt2i cant even play streaming video in firefox without it segfaulting. ;;<09:31
catfoxjjazz: yeah, just goes right back to a log in prompt09:31
jjazzjMCg:  But it's probably an improvement over many of the presentations I've suffered through.09:31
[A] ndy80hi09:31
sunshinewell based on the /proc/asound/cards i have a via and a yamaha09:31
Auxinif i try to install a *.deb with dpkg -i he's giving me errors because of dependencies.. what to do?09:31
jMCgjjazz, hehhehe :D09:31
sunshinehow do i fix it09:31
the_watchtowerthor  got my sister on the other line  please excuse me for a bit09:31
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jMCgjjazz, anyways.. uhm.. my presentations are always fun :D09:31
the_watchtowerthoreauputic,   got my sister on the other line  please excuse me for a bit09:32
butcherbirdcatfox, so..wrong password?09:32
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jMCgbecause i tend to be totally unprepared and do a lot of improvisation.09:32
[A] ndy80one question... a lot of packages I get that use qt, require this package "libqt3c102-mt". I'm using Ubuntu Breezy. Is there a common way to fix this thing? The version distribuited with breezy is not ok for these packages....09:32
jjazzcatfox:  That's weird.  I've never seen such a thing.  If you can't log in, you might have to fix whatever is wrong by booting with a live cd, mounting the disk and making changes that way.  What those changes are, though, I leave in your hands.09:32
catfoxbutcherbird: no. its the right password(doesn't give me an error)09:32
mik3hi guys, i'm trying to convirt a windows user to ubuntu, but she has  dsl and no router (directly connected to the dsl modem, pppoe probably) is there software ported to ubuntu that deals with that?09:32
boxerboy29ive never seen libs with .ko at end only seen .so at end09:32
whyameyesunshine, why don't you try typing esd -d hw:0 and if that doesn't make any sound, try esd -d hw:109:32
jjazzbutcherbird:  Ha!  You know, that's probably it.09:32
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SmittysWorkingOkay all you happy Ubuntu-ers...  Ever come across a problem where if you insert a CD into a laptop drive, after either a few seconds of playing, or a few seconds of juicing the files, the entire computer freezes?09:33
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boxerboy29the kernel update should keep the drivers for video card no?09:34
sunshine using device hw:009:34
sunshineesd: Esound sound daemon already running or stale UNIX socket09:34
sunshine/tmp/.esd-1000/socket09:34
sunshineThis socket already exists indicating esd is already running.09:34
sunshineExiting...09:34
sunshinesunshine@ubuntu:~$ esd -d hw:009:34
sunshineesd: Esound sound daemon already running or stale UNIX socket09:34
sunshine/tmp/.esd-1000/socket09:34
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whyameyesunshine, type killall esd first, then09:34
sunshineThis socket already exists indicating esd is already running.09:34
sunshineExiting...09:34
jMCgwhy is apt-get.org down :-/09:34
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thoreauputicsunshine: please read the topic - you shouldn't paste here09:35
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sunshinesorry09:36
SmittysWorkingCD freezing the Laptop, anyone?09:36
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ccookeSmittysWorking: in what circumstances?09:37
JloRnever heard of it..09:37
Auxinwell just 1h42min for dist-upgrade :-P09:37
sunshinei dont hear anything it said it usin device hw:009:37
sunshinewhat am I suppose to hear09:37
SmittysWorkingOkay, I put the CD in.  I open up the music player, I hit play.  It plays for about 8 seconds and then the entire computer freezes.09:37
ccookeAuxin: you'd be quicker doing a plain install :-)09:37
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Auxinccooke, y? i'm just upgrading new packages.. my install is plain ;)09:37
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whyameyesunshine, kill that and try esd -d hw:109:38
MFenreal fast: what's the default python in badger?09:38
sunshinei've tried that one as well still cant hear anything09:38
ccookeSmittysWorking: that's really odd. Complete freeze - mouse, keyboard, everything? Can you get to the console with Ctrl-Alt-F1 ?09:38
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MFen"python -V" would be the fastest way to check, if someone here is running it :)09:39
ccookePython 2.4.2c109:39
ccooke:-)09:39
SmittysWorkingccooke:  It is a complete freeze.09:39
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slashzulls/quit09:39
evianI just did a dist-upgrade to breezy. Looks cool except my desktop icons and in the browser are all the same piece of paper icon. Is this par for the course, or did I do something wrong?09:39
Xappetry to change icon theme09:40
ccookeSmittysWorking: right. Does it happen every time?09:40
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Auxinevian, afair it was the same here last time i updated09:40
MFenccc_: mucho thanks.09:40
bam_hey, anyone know why my system wants to mount a external usb hdd like 8x?09:40
evianXappe, will try that09:40
evianAuxin, thanks09:40
ccookebam_: ah, you too?09:40
ccookeIt does that with my Zaurus.09:41
bam_yes indeed09:41
SmittysWorkingEvery time I put a CD in and attempt to access it.  It isnt audio because Flash sounds and website sounds play fine...  Im wondering if it is a hardware issue, or something about how Ubuntu recognizes the DVD drive.09:41
bam_same problem09:41
whyameyesunshine, if you type esd --help and see what devices it lists.09:41
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ccc_MFen: don't thank me, thank ccooke09:41
ccc_:)09:41
Auxinwhat about notebooks & ubuntu are they quite well working?09:41
Auxintogether..09:41
ccookeAuxin: It's been great on every one I've used09:41
sunshinethe same hw:0 via and hw:1 yamaha09:41
jjazzAuxin:  In my view, notebooks are the only reason to use Ubuntu09:41
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butcherbirdmy toshiba laptop has worked perfectly09:42
j5ywhat kind of file-system is to recommanded when installing hoary?09:42
Auxinjjazz, y?09:42
SmittysWorkingAuxin:  I have a Thinkpad 600x, and there is an issue with the irqpoll, but so far nothing horrible except for this CD freeze09:42
Auxinok SmittysWorking :)09:42
ccookeSmittysWorking: Hmm. One thing you could try to do - it may gain us some insight into where the problem is09:42
SmittysWorkingccooke:  Fire away...09:42
MFenccc_: sorry.  in that case, you suck. ccooke: thanks! :P09:42
jjazzAuxin:  The main advantage of Ubuntu for me is the hardware compatiblity, which is only really an issue for me on notebooks.09:42
Auxinyeah09:42
ccookeSmittysWorking: are you on breezy, hoary or warty?09:42
Auxini just wondering about myself today.. trying to install debian 3.1 ;)09:42
SmittysWorkingccooke:  Hoary09:43
ccookeMFen: *laugh*09:43
whyameyesunshine, is this a desktop machine? You have sound working in Windows or some other distro?09:43
jjazzAuxin:  Otherwise, I don't see that Ubuntu beats Debian.  But that's just my own opinion.  I run Ubuntu on finicky laptops.  Debian on larger boxes.09:43
[LethAL] How do I burn a CD from the command line again?09:43
ccookeSmittysWorking: Okay. Then the console output should be on the first VT. Can you insert the CD, start it playing and then *immediately* press Ctrl-Alt-F1?09:43
mik3hi guys, i'm trying to convirt a windows user to ubuntu, but she has  dsl and no router (directly connected to the dsl modem, pppoe probably) is there software ported to ubuntu that deals with that?09:43
Auxinjjazz, ah ok09:43
ccookeSmittysWorking: it might capture some extra debugging if it's the kernel crashing09:43
jjazzmik3:  apt-cache search pppoe09:44
Answermik3: you should be able to log in to the dsl modem admin page for example http://192.168.1.109:44
ccookeSmittysWorking: for instance, you'd be more likely to see any sort of kernel panic that way09:44
sunshineit is a desktop and no sound in windows09:45
sunshinei cant hear anything the speakers are workin I tried them09:45
whyameyesunshine, so you aren't getting sound from any OS on this machine? Then the problem could be anything, including hardware or a bad connection, or the volume control or...09:45
SmittysWorkingccooke:  I started playing it ant hit Ctrl+alt+f1...  No kernal panic so far...09:45
mik3Answer : that's only if there is a router connected to it09:45
ccookeSmittysWorking: right09:45
sunshinei had sound when I was on windows09:45
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sunshinexp but now I'm on ubuntu it doesn towrk09:46
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whyameyesunshine, so when you said "no sound in windows" this was not correct?09:46
mik3hehe i feel bad for you people dealing with all the windows convertees09:46
SmittysWorkingAhhhhhh.....09:46
SmittysWorkingccooke:09:46
seifesunshine: u wont get network stuff working, sound and other stuff working in ubuntu09:46
sunshinesorry i had sound in windows xp09:46
SmittysWorkingccooke:  New development...09:46
bam_im a windows convertee09:46
ccookeSmittysWorking: yeah?09:46
sorush20how do I make a html gallery .. how can I insert more than one picture into a ooo.org file at once.?09:46
Xappemik3: no, the dsl modem could have a router built in09:46
mik3bam_ : congratulations09:46
whyameyesunshine, do you still have XP installed?09:46
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sunshineeverything is working in ubuntu but the sound09:47
SmittysWorkingccooke:  I play the CD and it is playing fine.  When I go to adjust the volume up beside the clock it freezes the lappy.09:47
sorush20how do I make a html image gallery .. how can I insert more than one picture into a ooo.org file at once.?09:47
bam_its not soo bad09:47
ccookeSmittysWorking: okay, that's interesting09:47
mik3Xappe : cool09:47
sunshineno ubuntu replaced it09:47
boxerboy29i had that problem too sunshine found out that ubuntu and my onboard sound card didnt like eachother very much09:47
bam_i for instance only have a few issues09:47
bam_minor ones at that09:47
ccookeboxerboy29: what's your onboard sound?09:47
sunshineso what did you do?09:47
Skidanyone got a k750i working with linux? :] 09:47
boxerboy29i dont remember i went got a 20 soundblaster and now all is well09:48
ccookeSkid: working how?09:48
SmittysWorkingI think we are all in the same boat with the sound cards being kludged in Ubuntu...09:48
ccookeIt Just Works on ubuntu (hoary and breezy_09:48
boxerboy29i spent over a month trying to get it to work09:48
Skidaccessing the storage card09:48
ccookein the sense that I plug it in, and I get the stroage.09:48
Skidhmmmmm09:48
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sunshinebut how boxer i need my music09:48
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Skidwhere'd you access it?09:48
nerpbreezy need mp3riot packages09:48
Skiddoesn't show up anywhere for me09:48
ccookeSkid: just plugged in the USB cable.09:48
Skidya, I've got it plugged in now, its charging off me lappy09:49
evianyeah changing my theme fixed my icons09:49
whyameyesunshine, what kind of VIA sound card is it i.e. model #?09:49
d2dchathow do i bring a broken breezy back to hoary09:49
Skidccooke: did it pop up with some directory then?09:49
sunshine(VIA 82C686A/B rev5009:49
JloRI've resized my NTFS partition using ntfsresize - I made it 30gb instead of 40gb. So now I should have 10gb for Ubuntu.. BUT, the installer can't see these 10gb.. Windows says the drive is now 30gb, but the installer can only see hda1 (40gb...) and I can't create more partitions in fdisk.. Can someone help me out?09:49
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ccookeSkid: look for an icon on your desktop09:49
mik3So if someone who is converting from windows to ubuntu, relatively clueless, is going to run into a problem because ubuntu hoary doesn't package a pppoe application with it?09:49
Skidnope, nothing htere09:49
Skiddo you have some USB utils installed?09:49
ccookestandard install.09:49
Skidhmm09:49
ccookehave you had USB devices working before?09:50
Skidyeah, I use a USB mouse09:50
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ccookeSmittysWorking: hmm. does this only happen when playing the CD?09:50
boxerboy29mik3: all computers are differetn one person may have your problem but the next with relitivly same hardware would work great09:50
ccookeSmittysWorking: and does a different CD player cause it?09:50
ccookeSkid: USB storage?09:50
Skidno09:51
ccookeSkid: gimme a sec while I dig out my USB cable.09:51
Skidjust a mouse ;)09:51
Skidthanks09:51
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sunshinewhat sound card do you have boxer09:51
SmittysWorkingccooke:  When I play the CD and adjus tthe volume, i freezes.  When I open the CD with Juicer and try to rip them, it freezes.09:51
d2dchathow do i bring a broken breezy back to hoary09:51
boxerboy29i have a soundblaster if u give me a min ill look to be sure09:51
butcherbirdsunshine, hoary or breezy?09:51
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sunshinebreezy09:51
jjazzmik3:  As I told you earlier, apt-cache search pppoe09:51
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ccookeSkid: Okay. Plug the K750i in. I get a popup "Import photos from device"09:52
Skidhow odd09:52
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SkidI don't :)09:52
Skidi'll replug it in09:52
ArneCasmik3: pppoeconf09:52
bam_is it turned on?09:52
mathieudzhi, is it safe yet to upgrade to breezy, or is it better to wait for the release?09:52
ccookeskid: wait!09:52
yarddogi have an audigy 2 sound card and its not working, ideas?09:52
butcherbirdsunshine, using onboard sound or do you have a sound card as well?09:52
sunshinedcdchat you have to go to source list and change everywhere it said breezy to hoary09:52
mik3jjazz : when i installed ubuntu it didn't even have apt-cache on it09:52
d2dchatsunshine what was the location again?>09:53
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sunshineyamaha09:53
Skidah i see syslog events09:53
Skidhm09:53
ccookebefore you do that, open a terminal and type "tail -0f /var/log/kern.log"09:53
Oetzihi09:53
whyameyesunshine, you checked the volume with alsamixer?09:53
evianmathieudz, I just upgraded, but I backed up everything first09:53
boxerboy29sunshine i dont have the box anymore but it was a target 20-30 dollar card09:53
jjazzmik3:  I've installed a few ubuntu boxes, and they all have apt-cache.  I don't recall installing it myself.09:53
ccookeSmittysWorking: Okay. This is probably a dodgy driver of some sort. What kernel are you running?09:53
sunshinesource list you have to access it though the terminal sudo gedit09:53
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bayab00mhi folks09:53
d2dchatsunshine yes, where is it located09:53
mik3really, ok then i'll have them go ahead. as long as i can get them online that's all that matters09:54
ccookeSmittysWorking: it *may* be dodgy hardware, but... that would be worse, so let's assume not :-)09:54
mik3lates09:54
Oetzican anyone tell me why aterm can't print oe,ae,ue09:54
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bayab00mhow can i stop ubuntu from locking the screen when closing the laptop?09:54
SmittysWorkingccooke:  kernel 2.6.10-5-38609:54
Oetzixterm, eterm, gnome-terminal do perfect09:54
boxerboy29its a creative soundblaster 5.1live ls09:54
ccookeOh, yeah - anyone, is there an *accepted* *default* way of configuring network interfaces automatically on Ubuntu (hoary/breezy)?09:55
boxerboy29retail is about 30 i got it for 2309:55
bayab00mwith closing i mean to shut the cover09:55
ccookeThere are a load of thing that'll do it, but they're all a pig to configure so I always write my own09:55
ArneCasbayab00m: Your screen gets locked when your laptop is going to sleep?09:55
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Oetzii have the following config breezy preview, locales de_DE@euro09:55
sunshinethe master is on 82 pcm is on 84 pc is on 87 the cd is on 8409:55
D1I think he means the password login09:55
d2dchatwhere is the source list?09:55
d2dchat./etc/sources.list?09:56
ccookeSmittysWorking: Okay. Pretty solid kernel, then.09:56
D1xscreensaver locks the screen09:56
bayab00mArneCas, not going to sleep, but when i shut the cover and then open it back, the screen is locked and i have to insert password09:56
D1I actually like that feature. hehe09:56
Oetzii think it's a problem with fonts09:56
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ccookeSmittysWorking: Can you do the Ctrl-Alt-F1 trick at all with any of the causes you know?09:56
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ccookeSkid: seen anything?09:56
sunshinedcd it is sudo gedit apt-get sources.list09:57
ArneCasbayab00m: actually I am looking for this exact feature. On my system it does not get locked :-(  Does it lock immediately?09:57
boxerboy29i hated having to log in after the screen saver kicked on09:57
d2dchatsunshine i cant access it via gedit09:57
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SmittysWorkingccooke:  I will try again...09:57
ccookeboxerboy29: you can disable screen locking in the screensaver preferences09:57
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nerpd2dchat, stil in console mode?09:57
d2dchatyes lol09:57
d2dchatit suckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkssss09:57
boxerboy29yeah i found it 3 weeks later09:57
d2dchati just want breezy:(09:58
nerpd2dchat, apt-get install pine09:58
nerpthen updatedb09:58
ccooked2dchat: so install it :-)09:58
d2dchatbut im going back to hoary09:58
d2dchatcuz this sucks09:58
nerpthen pico /etc/apt/sources.list09:58
nerpctrl + x to save09:58
d2dchatunless you ant to help me get breezy up09:58
d2dchatnerp can u help?09:58
nerpi'll try09:58
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d2dchatthe problem is X wont start09:58
bayab00mwell now i purged xscreensaver, and when i close the cover and open it back then i'm not anymore in the xserver, i have to manually press alt-ctrl-f7 to come back to it09:58
SkidCompBrain: i09:59
nerphave you tried "startx"?09:59
boxerboy29d2dchat why not wait untill oct 13th to reinstall breezy thats when the stable release is set to appear09:59
Skidccooke: i see it create the /dev/ttyACM0/1 devices09:59
Skidbut nothing more09:59
ccookebayab00m: ah. gimme a sec, let me look.09:59
Skidjust googling now09:59
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ccookeSkid: Right. it's not seeing any storage on your phone09:59
nerphist startx as a normal user09:59
nerperr, hit rather09:59
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ccookeSkid: out of interest... is the memory card properly plugged in?09:59
Kaetemihi all, does anyone know if it's possible to use samba or maybe another windows network thing to run on an ipx/netbeui thing?09:59
d2dchatuser not authorized to run x server10:00
d2dchataborting?10:00
nerpsudo startx10:00
ccookeSkid: I've noticed it's possible to close the cover with it slightly out10:00
boxerboy29bye all dinner trumps chat anyday10:00
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d2dchatcreating new authority file...10:00
d2dchatserver error.10:00
butcherbirdd2dchat, sudo gdm doesnt work?10:00
Skidclose the cover?10:00
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d2dchatbutcherbird im in console mode!!10:00
ccookeSkid: the little rubber cover over the memory stick10:01
cnxhow can i set up adsl in ubuntu?10:01
butcherbirdd2dchat, yes?10:01
Skidah10:01
nerpd2dchat, did you do "sudo startx"10:01
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Skidi'll check10:01
d2dchatnerp yes and it said:10:01
Skidsorry didn;t see you what said above10:01
ccookeSkid: if you open it, remove the memory card, then press it back in firmly until it clicks10:01
JloRMuahaha, after 2-3 hours... I finally think I beat both winXP AND Ubuntu - I think I can install safely now, and dual boot.10:01
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d2dchatserver error10:01
Skidyep definately in10:01
d2dchatxinit: server error10:02
Skidi'll google some more :)10:02
JloRI'll be sooo happy with myself if I can actually dualboot safely and have two working systems within an hour or so.. Because that would mean I don't need the backup I took.10:02
ccookeSkid: heh.10:02
ccookeSkid: Want me to query you with what I get from dmesg?10:02
Skidsure10:02
ccookeshow you what you *should* be seeing?10:02
Skidthanks10:02
nerpapt-get remove gdm10:02
nerpthen try to reinstall it?10:03
XHKHow can i set up adsl connection in ubuntu?10:03
d2dchatnerp, i also tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and it said that it was either broken or something10:03
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d2dchatnerp, will that break anything?10:03
nerphmm10:03
nerpno, shouldnt10:03
XHKHow can i set up adsl connection in ubuntu?10:03
d2dchatok, then apt-get install gdm?10:04
[LethAL] System, Administration, networking10:04
JloRit ought to automaticly, if you have a router giving out DNS servers and IPs for your network.10:04
ArneCasHow do I get xscreensaver to lock the screen when I close the lid on an iBook?10:04
nerpd2dchat, yes10:04
d2dchatXHK's ISP uses PPPoe10:04
JloRah right, lethal has the easy way ;)10:04
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JloRoki10:04
d2dchatnerp now what?10:04
JloRbrb10:04
nerptry reboot10:04
d2dchatk10:04
SmittysWorkingccooke:  I am assuming it is something to do with the audio driver as the CD-ROM drive was used to install Ubuntu.  I will have to look more into it later.  Thanks!10:05
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sunshinedvd its sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list10:06
ccookeSmittysWorking: No problem. Sorry I couldn't be any more help.10:06
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XHKCan someone help me then?10:06
sunshineeveryone stop helpin me10:06
barongasIs there a way to reset my firefox and remove all installed plugins? I have been toying around with it and now it's acting up weirdly. apt-get removing it requires that I remove my entire ubuntu-desktop which would suck10:07
ccookebarongas: yes, but it'll remove the entire profile10:07
nerpbarongas, rm -rf /path/to/firefox/plugins10:07
sunshinecan anyone help me fix my sound10:08
muepbarongas: remove all firefox-related in home dir10:08
ccookebarongas: usually you really only want to remove the local stuff, though10:08
tristanmikebarongas, removing ubuntu-desktop isn't as bad as it sounds, just reinstall it back, it's not gonna remove your desktop as it would lead you to believe10:08
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d2dchatnerp!10:08
d2dchatdidnt work:(10:08
nerpbah10:08
nerpwhat is the error exactly10:08
d2dchati think its because i have so many missing dependencies?10:08
sunshinedcd type this in terminal sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list10:09
d2dchatmaybe i missed a step?10:09
nerptype startx10:09
ccookebarongas: rm -rf ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default. Or, to be *much safer*, move it to another name.10:09
tristanmikebarongas, I've been running with out the ubuntu-desktop package for like 4 days without realizing it, and I just reinstalled it last night10:09
nerpd2dchat, try apt-get build-dep gdm10:09
d2dchatuser not authorized to start x10:09
nerpd2dchat, try apt-get build-dep gdm xorg etc10:09
barongasOk, thanks everyone. I think I'm going with the removing firefox stuff in my home dir but now that you say it I realize that removing desktop isn't that bad :)10:09
d2dchatnerp, well the problem could be that i didnt install breezy right10:09
sunshinedcd have u tried sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list10:09
d2dchatnerp, i did all the source stuff10:09
nerphuh?10:09
d2dchatsunshine, gedit doesnt even work in console and i already edited the source file for breezy10:09
tristanmikebarongas, just after it removes it, search it in Synaptic and reinstall, and no prob. You may want to make sure the package "yelp" doesn't get uninstalled too10:10
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concept10offtopic: anyone heard of this site called allofmp3.com10:10
ccookebarongas: (ubuntu-desktop is a virtual package that depends on all the other things you need to have an ubuntu desktop machine - it has no files, but installing it causes other things to be installed. When you remove one of the things that it installs, ubuntu-desktop is removed as well because it 'depends' on them)10:10
nerpd2dchat, have you done apt-get update10:10
d2dchatnerp, i changed the source file for breezy but there was an additional step on the wiki site it recommended that i tried to do that didnt work and they said it would ensure that breezy works10:10
sunshinedid you change all the word breezy to hoary and save it10:10
nerpand then try apt-get dist-upgrade10:10
d2dchatnerp, how do i know if i didnt?:)10:10
bayab00mis there like a conf file or something where all the actions are listed that are done when the laptop-cover gets shut?10:10
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tristanmikeconcept10, #ubuntu-offtopic10:10
barongasccooke cool10:11
Tomcat_A friend was forced into the recovery console by fsck (harddisk crash or something). The recovery console needs a root password. I know how he can set it, I just want to know if this is a known problem.10:11
OetziCan anyone help me with my problem10:11
nerpdo it now10:11
nerpdo apt-get update10:11
d2dchatsunshine, yes and i rebooted, thats why im stuck in console;)10:11
sunshinecan anyone help lme with my sound10:11
nerpthen do apt-get dist-upgrade10:11
barongasEverytime I log into this channel I learn so much, wether it's through helping someone or getting helped. Ace guys!10:11
d2dchatnerp, k its workin10:11
Oetzifluxbox and aterm has problems with loading fonts10:11
concept10tristanmike, no10:11
sunshineu didnt need to reboot you should sudo apt-get update once you saved it10:11
d2dchatnerp, i think it upgraded, now what/10:12
sunshinecan someone help me with my sound10:12
ccookesunshine: I've probably lost this in scrollback, sorry, but - have you had it working under linux before?10:12
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nerpapt-get dist-upgrade10:12
d2dchatsunshine i thought i did upgrade it10:12
barongasDo I need to reinstall flash-plugins and those kinds of stuffs as well?10:12
d2dchatnerp, it says the following packages have unmet dependencies:10:12
ccookebarongas: not if you installed them through apt/synaptic10:13
d2dchatlsb: depends: lsb-graphics but it is not installed.10:13
nerphit y10:13
sunshineno i had it workin when I was on windows then I change to ubuntu and now it doesnt work10:13
nerpto continue10:13
d2dchatit wont let me10:13
ccookesunshine: okay. What's the card?10:13
orexi just installed the preview release of breezy.  i am getting this weird message at random times on the terminal.  its as fillows: [4302887.247000]  hub 1-0:1.0: overcurrent change on port 210:13
sunshinei need it to work10:13
d2dchatit just quit10:13
ccookesunshine: you're on hoary, aren't you?10:13
JloRI know this might be a bit too early to celebrate, with me not having a complete ubuntu install yet and not being sure if my winXP is intact, but beer's on me!10:13
d2dchatit said try to use apt-get -f install10:13
sunshinewell i have two cards one a via and one a yamaha10:13
nerpok do apt-get sb-graphics10:13
nerpok do apt-get lsb-graphics10:13
sunshineno im on breezy10:13
ccookeorex: one of your usb devices is requesting too much power10:13
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orexccooke: the only usb thing that i have is the mouse!10:14
ccookeorex: plugged into any hubs?10:14
d2dchatinvalid operation lsb-graphics10:14
nerpi can't believe all the people rebooting their machines for no good reason, the only time I ever reboot a linux box is on a kernel upgrade or in order to fix a major problem10:14
d2dchatinstall lsb-graphics?10:14
nerpd2dchat, yes10:14
orexccooke: nope. just a ms intelimouse.  its an old celeron 533 but still10:14
sunshinedcd do you authority on that computer10:14
d2dchatnerp, it told me to reboot after upgrade to breezy;)10:15
test34-nerp,  yes but for some reason the ubuntu autoupdate tell you to reboot more often than that10:15
j-linuxI'm having trouble launching some programs... I can't find them on the menu and can't launch them in a terminal... if I type "whereis eterm" it just returns "eterm:"10:15
ccookesunshine: okay. what do you see in /proc/asound/cards ?10:15
nerpd2dchat, yeah, new kernel in breezy10:15
nerpno worries10:15
ccookesunshine: (please forgive me if I'm asking things you've already tried)10:15
tristanmikenerp, you have to in windows, and I'd say 90% of us are ex-windows users10:15
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d2dchatnerp, it gave me the same message, unmet dependencies10:15
d2dchaterr wait10:15
d2dchatlsb-cxx10:15
d2dchatdo i have to install that too?10:16
BooZeeis switching from gnome to kde - problematic?10:16
ccooked2dchat: I'd suggest you try installing from scratch.10:16
d2dchatccooke, that would not be good, i have files on 5.0410:16
ccooked2dchat: what files?10:16
d2dchatand configuration10:16
ccookeit's possible to save all of that10:16
d2dchatimportant FTP stuff, emails, etc.10:16
mvohow do I copy a audio cd in breezy?10:16
nerpd2dchat, what packages are conflicting?10:16
JloROh yea, my laptop just got 10 times as powerfull :) Both winXP and Ubuntu works like a charm. Was a pain to resize the partition holding winXP (I didn't have any GUI to read FAQs and docs in). But it works now!10:16
JloRThanks a bunch for not banning me when I asked stupid questions *hands out beers*.10:17
d2dchatlsb, openoffice,10:17
nerpd2dchat use apt-get build-dep for any missing deps10:17
d2dchatthats all it says10:17
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d2dchatso apt-get build-dep lsb?10:17
nerpso do apt-get build-dep openoffice lsb etc etc next next10:17
metalsandWhat's the command to scan for a network?10:17
metalsandiwconfigh eth0 scanning10:17
metalsand?10:17
nerpyou can enter more than one10:17
ccooked2dchat: How much free space do you have, and what does du -s /home say?10:17
nerpdoesn't need to be just lsb the openoffice10:17
orexi just did a breezy instal, and i did it w/out a nic card in it.  afterwards i added the nic and it connects fine.  the problem is it doesnt connect or try to connect when i startup.  i have to do 'sudo ifconfig eth0 up' and then 'sudo dhclient eth0' everytime.  is there any way to fix this so it works upon startup?10:17
Auxin"just" 42 mins to go for dist-upgrade. :-/10:18
nerpcan be apt-get build-dep prog1 prg2 prg3 prg4 etc10:18
j-linuxIs there a way to make the desktop background image change every 5 minutes?10:18
nerpbrb10:18
ccooked2dchat: if the answer to those is favourable, I can show you how to do a safe reinstall and lose nothing - and it'll probably be faster than fixing your system10:18
jMCgj-linux, uhm.. cron job..?10:18
d2dchatnerp, unabled to find source package for openoffice, so i just installed lsb first10:18
butcherbirdmetalsand, you mean wireless network like 'iwlist ath0 scan'10:18
jMCgno10:18
jMCguhm...10:18
sunshinecc i see my two cards10:18
jMCgthat'd be very irritating..10:18
ccookesunshine: right, so they're *detected*10:18
metalsandbuercherbird: I think that was he command10:18
j-linuxjMCg: ok... I don't know how to do that yet... "man cron" ... here goes...10:19
sunshineyeah10:19
metalsandit was iwlist. Doh.10:19
d2dchatccooke, if all else fails:)10:19
metalsandThanks10:19
butcherbird=)10:19
j-linuxjMCg: thanks10:19
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Skidccooke: out of intrest are you running breezy?10:19
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ccookesunshine: ... what happens when you try to play audio? errors, or no sound?10:19
d2dchatlol, it should show you in IRC if you're running breezy;)10:19
ccookeSkid: since thursday. But I've had the phone nearly a month now.10:19
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d2dchator forward you to the channel10:20
Skidand it worked with hoary before?10:20
ccookeSkid: and it worked find in hoary10:20
d2dchatlike #ubuntu-breezy, #ubuntu-hoary10:20
Skidas I'm still on hoary, dont want to upgrade as when i did from warty -> hoary everything died :)10:20
Skidhmm, thats so annoying :)10:20
ccookeSkid: hey. does the phone work in windows? or on other systems?10:20
kill9hi all, using ubuntu 4.10 and when i start the partition manager it doesnt find the partitions that are already on the drive. it just wants to erase the entire disk10:20
d2dchatyea, this was a pain in the ass upgrading to breezy today:(10:21
sunshinejust no sound10:21
nerpk10:21
Skidccooke: yep10:21
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nerpback & stuff10:21
Skidwindows is fine, tried it on my g/f's laptop a min ago10:21
d2dchatnerp:10:21
ccookesunshine: okay. and the volume controls appear to work, but nothing?10:21
d2dchaterrors were encountered while processing:10:21
nerpd2dchat, yeah10:21
d2dchatpostfix10:21
ccookesunshine: if so, I think I know your problem10:21
d2dchatlsb-core10:21
sunshinethe volume is up10:21
sunshinetell me10:21
d2dchatE: sub process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)10:22
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ccookesunshine: Your volume control is probably pointing at the wrong mixer10:22
test34-I wish xchat would save logs in different file everyday10:22
d2dchatE: Failed to process build dependencies10:22
sunshinehow do you fix that10:22
nerphmm10:22
ccookesunshine: right click on the volume icon in the tray - click "open volume control"10:22
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sunshineyeah it open10:22
ccookesunshine: oops, sorry.10:23
ccookesunshine: right click, click *preferences*10:23
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sunshineok preference is open10:23
yarddogwhen i installed ubuntu it never had me set up a root password10:23
ccookesunshine: it'll give you a little dialog saying "select the device and track to control"10:23
d2dchatnerp, yea its a toughy aint it10:23
d2dchatlol10:23
nerpd2dchat, yeah10:23
ccookesunshine: what's it saying now?10:23
sunshineyeah that on the via10:23
nerphmm try apt-get install gnome10:23
barongasyarddog: You wont really need it. You can set it with sudo though10:24
daveragCan someone help me when I right-click to Share a Folder in Nautilus nothing happens, and if I open from System - Administration - Shared Folder it just crashes10:24
yarddoghow ?10:24
ccookesunshine: is the device correct?10:24
d2dchatnerp: E: broken packages10:24
yarddogbarongas, apt wont work without it10:24
d2dchatdepends on: gnome-desktop-environment10:24
sunshineyes10:24
ccookesunshine: okay. What does the lower field say?10:25
nerpd2dchat, what sources are you using?10:25
test34-!tell yarddog about sudo10:25
d2dchatbut it is not going to be installed10:25
d2dchathold on lemme pico it10:25
d2dchatwhat was the url to the source file again?10:25
d2dchat./etc/sources.list?10:25
jjazzd2dchat:  /etc/apt/sources.list10:25
nerp/etc/apt/source.list10:25
d2dchatty10:25
sunshinemaster master mono headphons 3d centre pcm line in cd mic etc....10:25
nerpd2dchat, wget http://gawth.org/ub/sources.list10:26
ccookesunshine: what's selected, though?10:26
d2dchathmmmm10:26
sunshinemaster10:26
d2dchatok hold on10:26
nerpthen mv that to /etc/apt/sources.list10:26
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d2dchatk hold on10:26
ccookesunshine: okay. start something playing10:26
daveragI was using 5.04 and Shared Folders wouldn't work, so I installed 5.10 and it still doesn't work10:26
ccookesunshine: then, right click on the volume icon and "open volume control"10:27
ccookesunshine: on that, click Edit->Preferences10:27
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ccookesunshine: and enable any disabled tracks10:27
jjazzdaverag:  Is ubuntu's folder sharing a frontend for Samba?  Maybe you could just install and/or config samba directly.10:27
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ccookesunshine: then, on the "playback" tab, increase any which are muted/very low10:27
d2dchatnerp, ok now what?10:27
ccookesunshine: until you run out, or find one that does the trick :-)10:28
d2dchatapt-get install gnome? or.. dpkg?10:28
daveragjjazz: i already uninstalled-reinstalled doesn't work more, and I guess I could do it manually but I wonder why it doesn't work10:28
nerpd2dchat, apt-get update if you have mv'd the sources i just gave you to /etc/apt/sources.list10:28
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jjazzdaverag:  I don't know.  It didn't work for me either.  I never examined why it didn't work.  I just went around it (because I needed printer sharing too).10:29
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orexi just did a breezy instal, and i did it w/out a nic card in it.  afterwards i added the nic and it connects fine.  the problem is it doesnt connect or try to connect when i startup.  i have to do 'sudo ifconfig eth0 up' and then 'sudo dhclient eth0' everytime.  is there any way to fix this so it works upon startup?10:29
d2dchatnerp, the source file is referencing a cdrom10:29
jjazzdaverag:  Regardless, there are no good samba frontends, so it's not surprising to me that Ubuntu's isn't exactly painless.10:29
d2dchati did not create a breezy cdrom10:29
kill9noone know what could be wrong with the partition manager if its not picking up existing partitions, only the drive?10:29
daveragjjazz; what's there as an alternative front-end for samba?10:30
d2dchatnerp so its not picking up any of it, all the files said file not found10:30
jjazzdaverag:  SWAT10:30
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sunshineyou've lost me ther eis nowhere for disable tracks in volume preference10:30
nerpwait10:30
jjazzdaverag:  It's web-based, and I don't know if Ubuntu has it packaged  (since they already have a frontend for it)10:30
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ccookesunshine: okay10:30
jensbI have a matrox g400 card which just works fine at 1024x768x24. When I set it to 1280x1024x24 (using xorgconfig or by editing xorg.conf), the X server refuses to start. I know my card supports that resolution (works in Windows). How can I find out what's the cause?10:30
ccookesunshine: Applications -> Sound and Video -> Volume Control10:31
ccookesunshine: On that, Edit -> Preferences10:31
jjazzdaverag:  It's kinda junky.  Googling a sample samba config and hand-editing it isn't painless, but it will probably get you what you want with more ease than trying to navigate Swat.10:31
nerpd2dchat, ok see the top line : deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Preview i386 (20050908)] / breezy main restricted10:31
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ccookesunshine: that gives you a little window that says "Select tracks to be visible"10:31
nerpmake it: #deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Preview i386 (20050908)] / breezy main restricted10:31
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jjazzdaverag:  Are you sharing with a win box or a linux box or both?10:31
d2dchatnerp, with the comment?10:32
ccookesunshine: then a list of tracks with checkboxes next to them10:32
kev_i'm using ndiswrapper to support a netgear dwg111 usb-based wireless nic. things work fine. but if i use firefox to visit either a lot of sites concurrently or slashdot.org (don't know why it hates /.) the device freezes and i have to rmmod + modprobe ndiswrapper.10:32
ccookesunshine: make sure that each box is checked10:32
ccookesunshine: then click close10:32
nerpyah put # infront of it10:32
nerpthen save10:32
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ccookesunshine: back in the volume control, make sure you've selected the "playback" tab10:32
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nerpthen do apt-get update10:32
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ccookesunshine: then, while something is trying to play, increase any volume controls that look to be muted or very low10:32
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d2dchatnerp, ok that looked like it worked, i think10:33
d2dchatnerp, now what?10:33
d2dchatit hit a bunch of urls10:33
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marskaHowdy.. Install Ubuntu, partitions fine, but if I create a fat32 partition the install returns with an error.10:34
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nerptry do apt-get dist-upgrade10:34
rodde76hi10:34
marskaIs there a way to create a fat32 partition from within Ubuntu? I don't have any other tools available10:34
orexwhen is 5.10 to be released in final?10:34
ccookemarska: yes. mkfs.vfat /dev/devicename10:34
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d2dchatnerp, will i hav to reboot after this?10:35
ccookemarska: you'll need to run it under sudo10:35
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BooZeehow do I switch from gnome to kde ?10:35
nerpd2dchat, prolly10:35
nerpis it running?10:35
sunshinedone everything you said still cant hear anything10:35
ccookeBooZee: have you installed 'kubuntu-desktop' in synaptic?10:35
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BooZeei installed kdesktop10:35
d2dchatnerp, yes:)10:35
marskaccooke, Thank you10:35
jjazzBooZee:  apt-get install kde10:35
d2dchatnerp, its chuggin away10:35
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tearHow do I unmount a disk from my system?10:35
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amorph_does anyone knows what to do against sloppy audio-playback ?10:36
ccookesunshine: okay, that's odd.10:36
nerpsweet10:36
BooZeethats it? just "apt-get install kde" ?10:36
nerpnow cross your fingers10:36
d2dchatnerp, HOPEFULLY this works10:36
d2dchatlol10:36
d2dchatindeed!:)10:36
nerplol, right10:36
sunshinei know10:36
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d2dchatnerp, also cross your toes10:36
orexanybody knwo the apt-get command to isntall blackbox? b/c it doenst recognize apt-get intstall blackbox10:36
jjazzBooZee:  Wait.  You already installed KDE?10:36
butcherbirdtear a cdrom? or partition?10:36
ccookesunshine: On the offchance, double and triple check that the cable is plugged into the right output10:36
BooZeeI checked the kdesktop in synaptic10:36
d2dchatnerp, interestingly enough BitchX was like "reloading new version" or something10:36
jjazzBooZee:  And did it do the install?10:37
tearbutcherbird, Partition10:37
d2dchatnerp, perhaps it installed a new version of BitchX?10:37
nerplol, right on10:37
marskaccooke: Erm.. How do I format the freespace into a fat32 partition? My drive is located at /dev/hda but I have other partitions on the drive..10:37
trinhi guys10:37
sunshinecheers it was in the wrong hole10:37
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ccookeboozee: try installing kubuntu-desktop - it'll pull in everything that ubuntu think you should have10:37
orexboozee: if you already installed kdesktop, then u have to change it when u log in.  if u log out, and go to log back in there is a place where u can change the session.  if kde is isntalled, u should be able to select it  there10:37
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nerpHOLY CRAP! I just found a ton of stuff I thought I had lost forever on a cd tucked away10:37
ccookesunshine: *laugh* it happens!10:37
sunshinegreat sorted.................10:37
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BooZeeo.k. thanks!10:37
tearbutcherbird, I needed something from my XP partition10:37
sunshinei been tryin to sort this out for so long10:37
BooZeei'll try it10:37
ccookesunshine: *grin*10:38
whyameyesunshine, it's not a Shuttle computer, is it?10:38
marskaIs the wiki down?10:38
evian!tell me about skype again10:38
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trinmy ipod seems to be full, even though i only have one album on it.. any ideas?10:38
d2dchatnerp, its still unpacking stuff, does that mean its got another step?10:38
evian!skype10:38
ubotuskype is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/, or deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free10:38
orextrin: u emptyed your trash?10:38
d2dchatnerp, or does it unpack, then install?10:38
butcherbirdtear, umount /mnt/whatever, whatever dir you mounted it to10:38
ccookesunshine: at least you're not in our position - we spent a week at work trying to fix a problem that wasn't there because of a duplex mismatch *exactly* duplicating a software problem...10:38
sunshineim just so used to it being in the red output and the back that i didnt think it might work in a another one10:39
nerpunpack then install10:39
nybblehey trin10:39
ccookesunshine: (a software problem we'd spent the previous week and a half fixing, too)10:39
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trinhi nybble10:40
sunshineim just glad i can listen to my music10:40
marskaErm.. How do I format the freespace into a fat32 partition? My drive is located at /dev/hda but I have other partitions on the drive..10:40
marskaIs the wiki down?10:40
ccookemarska: Okay.10:40
sunshinei think it had to do with all the volume not bein up as well10:40
ccookemarska: do you already have a partition to use?10:40
tearthanks butcherbird10:40
d2dchatErrors occured while processing:10:40
marskaccooke: No.. I have three partitions on the drive for Linux, and I want to format the remaining 13 gigs of free space into a fat32 partition10:41
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ccookemarska: okay. Have you ever used fdisk?10:41
trinorex; yes, empty trash10:41
naliothmarska: use qtparted10:41
d2dchat./var/cache/apt/archives/firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu15_i386.deb10:41
ccookenalioth: good point.10:41
Skidccooke: it seems that the phone needs some scsi drivers or somthing - any tips as to what I should install... ?10:41
marskaccooke: Once upon a time.. Now all the numbers and tables seem scary and alien to me10:41
d2dchatE: sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)10:41
butcherbirdtear, np if you need a command apropos is handy "apropos unmount" etc will list possible commands and their uses10:41
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ccookemarska: there are graphical tools for it now, anyway10:42
d2dchatnerp, did you get all that?10:42
marskaccooke: What package?10:42
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nerpwow yeah10:42
puffUbuntu really oughta have a consolidated bugzilla, or something...10:42
nerphmm10:42
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naliothmarska: qtparted10:42
ccookemarska: gparted (for gnome) or qtparted (for kde)10:42
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marskaCcooke; Unless you wouldn't mind walking me through the command line.. Its up already10:42
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bayab00mhi folks10:42
ccookepuff: consolidated how?10:42
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ccookemarska: okay10:42
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ccookemarska: that's easy, too10:42
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nerpi would say apt-get remove dpkg but that will MESS EVERYthing up10:43
Dshepherdhey I trying to install an ATI driver and I get this error:10:43
marskaccooke: I'm at /dev/hda under fdisk10:43
Dshepherddpkg: error processing fglrx-6-8-0_8.16.20-2_i386.deb (--install):10:43
Dshepherd trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2', which is also in package xlibmesa-gl10:43
Dshepherddpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)10:43
DshepherdErrors were encountered while processing:10:43
Dshepherd fglrx-6-8-0_8.16.20-2_i386.deb10:43
d2dchatlol10:43
ccookemarska: just type:10:43
rodde76r det nn frn sverige?10:43
ccookemarska: n (for 'new partition')10:43
bayab00mis there a tool in ubuntu similar to debian's modconf?10:43
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LasseLrodde76, #ubuntu.se10:43
ccookemarska: it'll ask for primary or logical parition10:43
bayab00mi mean like a curses/gui tool for configuring kernel-modules10:43
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marskaOkay.. Its a primary10:43
ccookemarska: okay10:44
Dshepherdhey I trying to install an ATI driver and I get this error:10:44
d2dchatnerp, why is dpkg cuttin up so bad?10:44
ccookemarska: then just accept the defaults for start and end10:44
nerpd2dchat, man I have no idea10:44
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ccookemarska: done that?10:44
marskaccooke: Done10:44
Dshepherddpkg: error processing fglrx-6-8-0_8.16.20-2_i386.deb (--install):10:44
Dshepherd trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2', which is also in package xlibmesa-gl10:44
Dshepherddpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)10:44
DshepherdErrors were encountered while processing:10:44
Dshepherd fglrx-6-8-0_8.16.20-2_i386.deb10:44
nerpd2dchat, thoreaputic might be able to help.. i'm out of ideas10:44
ccookemarska: okay. you need to change the type of it, now10:44
Dshepherdhelp!10:44
d2dchatthoreaputic, is he a dev?10:44
Auxinhey guys... how can i creat a Trash Icon for the Desktop?10:44
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ccookemarska: type 't'10:45
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naliothDshepherd: do not paste in here, it's rude10:45
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ccookemarska: then the number of the partition you just made10:45
nerpi just see him here quite a bit and he seems to be quite knowledgable10:45
naliothDshepherd: use #flood or a pastebin (read the /topic)10:45
ccookemarska: set the type to 'c'10:45
d2dchati dont see him10:45
d2dchatlol10:45
Dshepherdsrry10:45
Auxinhey guys... how can i creat a Trash Icon for the Desktop?10:45
marskaccooke: Alright.. Done10:45
d2dchathey ccooke what were you suggesting to get a clean breezy install?10:46
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marskaccooke: Argh.. Too easy. Thank you very much10:46
ccooked2dchat: gimme a sec10:46
d2dchat1 mississippi;)10:46
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ccookemarska: when you write it, it'll tell you to reboot10:46
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ccookemarska: since the kernel will still have the old table10:46
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ccookemarska: just 'w' to write.10:46
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marskaccooke: Alright... Done10:47
d2dchatnerp thanks for the help10:47
ccookemarska: reboot, then mkfs.vfat /dev/hdaX10:47
marskaccooke: Okay.. Thank you10:47
nixiachello world.10:47
marskaThat mounts the drive?10:47
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ccookemarska: that'll format it.10:47
nerpd2dchat, no prob sorry i couldn't do anything more10:47
ccookemarska: are you in hoary or breezy?10:47
d2dchatnerp, its ok you stuck with it well:)10:47
marskaccooke: Warty10:47
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ccooked2dchat: okay, you can't boot to X, can you?10:47
marskaI need to upgrade10:47
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marskaInstalled from an old disk10:47
ccookemarska: okay.10:47
d2dchatccookie nope10:48
ccookemarska: you want this to be mounted every time?10:48
d2dchatccooke nope*10:48
marskaccooke: Yes10:48
ccooked2dchat: okay. I'll step you through it in a sec10:48
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d2dchatccooke ok:) ty10:48
ccooked2dchat: it's the same thing I did myself on Thursday10:48
gerarconehi, when i try to print some .pdf i see a lot of strange characters, why?10:48
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ccookemarska: what's the partition number?10:48
d2dchatccooke, o yea i remember what that was;)10:48
d2dchatccooke:-P10:48
jyrgenjallaballa10:48
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marskaccooke: 410:49
ccooked2dchat: no, just letting you know it's simple - otherwise I couldn't do it ;-)10:49
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d2dchatccooke hehe i was just messin with you10:49
ccookemarska: Right. reboot, then "sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/hda4"10:49
ccookemarska: then finally:10:49
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ccookemarska: sudo gedit /etc/fstab10:50
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puffccooke: Well, unless I'm misiunderstanding things, you have to use different buzillas if you're talking about ubuntu proper, or ubuntu universe, ubunttu multiverse, etc.  While I understand quite well that the different package sources are managed by different people, I suspect that the vast majority of ubuntu's target audience aren't likely to cope with the confusion and haslse of using different bugzillas for each one.10:50
ccookemarska: add to it "/dev/hda4    /mount/point/you/want   vfat   defaults    0 0"10:50
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Auxinomg... i need a trash icon :-/10:51
marskaccooke: That will be read/write for all users?10:51
ccookemarska: then, make the mount point (if you didn't already)10:51
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ccookemarska: ah, in that case, change the 'defaults' bit to:10:51
jojwhat-s up?10:51
jojwhazzzzzzza?10:51
d2dchatccooke, *zzzz*;)10:51
Skidahhh10:51
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Skidccooke: i think its because hald isn't running right.10:52
ccooked2dchat: du -s /home :-)10:52
butcherbirdAuxin, why?10:52
Skidbastard :] 10:52
puffccooke: For example, I've been dealing with some oddness with swsusp not reloading ipw2200, and after several weeks I've found some other folks on the web encountering the same problem, but I couldn't find anything about it in bugzilla (except the bug I entered).10:52
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Auxinbutcherbird, for cleaning the trash?10:52
d2dchatccooke lol, what does that do?10:52
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marskapuff: Your running a new centrino notebook?10:52
ccooked2dchat: tells me how much space /home is using10:52
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inthenowis Augmented Reality going to take over at some point?10:52
butcherbirdAuxin, bah cd /home/Auxin/.Trash ;p10:52
ccooked2dchat: then do a df and tell me if a) home is listed or b) how much space is free on /10:52
d2dchat249203210:53
Auxinbutcherbird, why so complicated?10:53
Auxin:-/10:53
puffmarska: No, a new thinkpad.10:53
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butcherbirdAuxin, sorry Im not too familiar with gnome you should have an icon...10:53
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ccookemarska: hmm. Try umask=00010:53
ccookemarska: instead of defaults.10:53
ccookemarska: okay?10:53
Auxinbut there's no one ,)10:53
d2dchattheres a lot available10:54
ccookemarska: been a while since I played with vfat, so I'm trying to remember10:54
ccooked2dchat: good!10:54
cosminhow can i change the refresh rate of the monitor (is editing xorg.conf enough ?)10:54
ccooked2dchat: what we need to do is get your /home onto a different partition to your root10:54
d2dchatccooke do you need an exact figure?10:54
puffmarska: If you're encountering this problem, so far the only fix I've found is to modprobe -r ipw2200, then modprobe ipw2200, then look in the networking GUI applet to configure and activate eth1.  For some reason, it's not listed by ifconfig (wish I could figure out why).10:54
ccooked2dchat: then you can reinstall everything and you'll still have all your files.10:54
butcherbirdAuxin, you could always just put a "shortcut" to the location on the desktop.  But I guess thats not an indeal fix10:55
d2dchatccooke oo sounds a lil bit tricky10:55
ccooked2dchat: just paste the available column10:55
marskaccooke: Alright.. Thanks. One more thing, when I try to download a file to /home it says I don't have write permission (and that the partition is read only)10:55
butcherbirdideal10:55
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Auxinbutcherbird, i think so 210:55
ccooked2dchat: that's right.10:55
ccooked2dchat: but easy enough10:55
ccookemarska: yes. you only have write permission to your home directory10:55
ccookemarska: which is in /home10:55
ccookemarska: presumably /home/marska10:55
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d2dchatccooke so what do i do?10:56
marskaccooke: So I can write files to /home/marska?10:56
AuxinOH10:56
puffHm, I can't find the bug I submitted for swsusp/ipw2200, but I'm not sure I'm looking in the right tracker (I'm looking at the launchpad.net bug tracker right now).10:56
Auxinthere's the trash10:56
ccooked2dchat: first thing - do you have another computer available to back up files to?10:56
Auxin*covers*10:56
marskapuff: I encountered something similiar with the ipw2100 driver10:56
ccookemarska: yes.10:56
d2dchatccooke i have another hd10:56
ccookemarska: assuming your user is marska10:56
puffmarska: Did you find any other resolution?10:56
ccooked2dchat: all the better, then10:56
marskaccooke: I understand the gist of it, thank you10:56
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ccookemarska: no problem10:56
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ccooked2dchat: is it mounted?10:57
puffmarska: I've seen clues that the key is to fix whatever script in swsusp, and make it modprobe -r ipw2200 when suspending.10:57
d2dchatyes10:57
d2dchati think..10:57
d2dchati had it automount on linux startup10:57
ccooked2dchat: right10:57
d2dchatso i could access my windows files;)10:57
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ccooked2dchat: where's it mounted?10:57
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d2dchati think its hda1?10:57
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marskapuff: I went for the brute force approach, reinstalled the OS on my Centrino. There seemed to be some messup when I compiled the driver10:57
d2dchatmy sda1 is SATA?10:57
d2dchathda1 is regular?10:58
ccooked2dchat: okay. do me a favour? do a "df -h" and paste the result to me in a query?10:58
ccooked2dchat: sounds right.10:58
d2dchathow do i paste it?10:58
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marskapuff: But I'm still having complications.. I just moved to a wifi pcmcia card10:58
puffRight now, an even more painful problem is that when I try to use mplayer/rhythmbox (which worked fine on my last install), it freezes up the whole system.10:58
ccooked2dchat: hmm. bitchx. Never used that.10:59
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puffmarska: Try the "modprobe -r package/modprobe package" approach?10:59
ccooked2dchat: just select the text with your left mouse button10:59
marskaPuff: No.. Honestly don't want to10:59
d2dchatccooke hehe, in console..10:59
ccooked2dchat: ahhh10:59
marskaPuff: I've gotten a connection to work and thats all I care about10:59
ccooked2dchat: that's easy, then10:59
ccooked2dchat: okay, get a console up.10:59
d2dchatits been up;)10:59
puffmarska: Heh... I know the feeling.  The main point is that it narrows down the problem.10:59
ccooked2dchat: :-)10:59
ccooked2dchat: are you talking on the same box?10:59
d2dchatyes11:00
ccooked2dchat: right.11:00
puffI.e. if that modprobe fix works, then you know the problem is that the wireless module isn't getting loaded.11:00
sorush20when I minimize the openoffice calc it pops up again.. don't know why/ help11:00
d2dchatscreen11:00
ccooked2dchat: yep11:00
puffBut I sympathize... I have work to do, myself.11:00
marskaPuff: I've found the ipw drivers very, very buggy and illsupported11:00
ccooked2dchat: okay, that makes it easier. I hate explaining screen over irc...11:00
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d2dchatso whenever my ubuntu breaks i end up in console mode and use screen an db itchx;)11:00
d2dchatim using screen right now11:00
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ccooked2dchat: go to the console window, press Ctrl-A Escape. That gets you to a select mode. Move the cursor to the start of the block you want to copy.11:01
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d2dchatccooke yea screen is a pain in the ass to explain11:01
ccooked2dchat: press space11:01
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marskaPuff: Not one real open source distro wants to touch them because they arn't OSS and both Intel and Realtek don't give a damn11:01
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ccooked2dchat: move to the end, press space again to select11:01
Aleph_Onehi ppl.. i wondering about performance in breezy (i'm using the latest preview), will the final breezy have approx same performance?11:01
dooglusmy ubuntu broke today.  i booted to the install cd and typed 'rescue' but 'screen' wouldn't run.11:01
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ccooked2dchat: go to the irc client and type: Ctrl-A ] 11:01
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marskaPuff: I'd suggest moving to a PCMCIA card and avoiding anything Realtek on your next laptop purchase11:01
ccooked2dchat: to paste.11:01
arcanistherogueis iit possible to install 2 .deb files at once?  for some reason, apt-get cant find amarok in the  repositories (with the backports put in), so im installing from the .deb files.  I have to install amarok-arts and amarok both at once, as i get dependency errors whichever one i  run.  how do I install two at once?11:01
marskaPuff: I know that doesn't help... But no one cares11:02
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marskaFound that out the hard way11:02
jjazzarcanistherogue:  Do you mean apt-get or dpkg?11:02
puffmarska: Hm... is that specific to my hardware?11:02
naliotharcanistherogue: backports are dangerous things11:02
arcanistheroguedpkg11:02
ccookemarska: hmm. ipw2200 works fine on this laptop11:02
puffmarska: That is, am I locked into the ipw drivers because of the particular hardware built into my laptop?11:02
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puffThat kinda sucks...11:02
pragupCan anyone tell me what is the difference between make and gmake and what should i do to install gmake on my system11:02
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jjazzarcanistherogue:  dpkg -i deb1.deb deb2.deb, I think.  I usually do dpkg -i *.deb11:02
d2dchatccooke press what to paste?11:02
puffccooke: Well, the drivers seem to work, but I just can't ubuntu to remember to load them :-).11:02
arcanistheroguek11:03
arcanistheroguethanks alot11:03
jjazzarcanistherogue:  But where'd you get the .debs?11:03
ccooked2dchat: Ctrl-A close-square-bracket11:03
d2dchatccooke oooo11:03
d2dchatccooke hold on11:03
Oetzii think my problem is with the de_DE@euro locale11:03
d2dchatFilesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on11:03
d2dchattmpfs                 221M     0  221M   0% /dev/shm11:03
d2dchatGodFather: `/.dev': No such file or directory11:03
d2dchatnone                  5.0M  2.8M  2.3M  56% /dev11:03
dooglusarcanistherogue: amarok doesn't depend on amarok-arts11:03
d2dchatwoops11:03
arcanistheroguejjazz: packages.ubuntu.com11:03
dooglusarcanistherogue: so install amarok first11:03
d2dchatsry guys;)11:03
pragupCan anyone tell me what is the difference between make and gmake and what should i do to install gmake on my system11:03
arcanistheroguedooglus: thats what it said on install11:03
d2dchatfriggen console...11:03
fredforfaenenybody else in here get errors when apt-get update?11:03
naliothpragup: install "build-essential"11:03
jjazzarcanistherogue:  dpkg -i *.deb will do fine.  I'm just not sure why apt-get didn't work for you.  But best of luck!11:04
marskaPuff: If your running Centrino, ya.. Why I have the PCMCIA card11:04
ccookefredforfaen: on breezy?11:04
fredforfaenthis is hoary11:04
Oetzii get the following error-msg "Warning: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C" when i start xterm11:04
fredforfaenccooke hoary11:04
arcanistheroguewell, i installed them both, but now i get an error that there is no Xlib protocol specified.  I use xorg, how do i say this?11:04
Oetzican anyone help me?11:04
dooglusOetzi: it's a known bug.11:04
d2dchatccooke did you get all that? that only stuff that got messed up in that paste was /dev/sda1 and /dev/hda111:04
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Auxinthats the deal...11:04
marska!topic11:04
Oetziis there any solution11:04
ccooked2dchat: right.11:04
ccooked2dchat: that's typical :-)11:04
pragupnalioth: oh, and what is the difference between make and gmake11:04
puffmarska: thinkpad t43p with a built-in Intel PRO/Wireless 2915ABG11:04
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dooglusOetzi: yes, but it hasn't been implemented yet.11:04
d2dchatccooke :) so you know my setup, what now?11:05
ccooked2dchat: okay, so you have them mounted. What's your windows drive mounted as11:05
ccooked2dchat: ?11:05
ccooked2dchat: ntfs or vfat?11:05
marskaPuff: Pentium M proc?11:05
ccooked2dchat: mount will tell you, if you forget11:05
naliothpragup: i have no idea11:05
d2dchatntfs is typical for winxp isnt it?11:05
Oetzibut it had made it work under hoary on my old notebook11:05
bluefoxicyOMG XD11:05
ccooked2dchat: yes.11:05
bluefoxicyXubuntu!11:05
bluefoxicyXFCE411:05
fredforfaenanybody else getting errors when apt-get updating?11:05
ccooked2dchat: unfortunately, linux can't write to that11:05
d2dchat believe its ntfs, but how do i check?11:05
pragupnalioth:ok thanx anyway11:05
ccooked2dchat: type "mount"11:05
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AuxinBlueEagle, wtf?11:05
d2dchatccooke yea, i knew that11:05
Auxinbluefoxicy, wtf..11:05
puffmarska: Yeah.11:06
kemikd2dchat:  "sudo fdisk -l"11:06
bluefoxicyAuxin:  It's in the repos for breezy11:06
puffmarska: Yeah, pentium M.11:06
marskaPuff: Then your running Centrino11:06
bluefoxicyAuxin:  Ubuntu based on XFCE411:06
d2dchatccooke yea its ntfs:(11:06
arcanistheroguefredforfaen: i thought i was the only one!11:06
Auxinbluefoxicy, not really or?11:06
bluefoxicyAuxin:  really11:06
Oetzishit11:06
d2dchatcock, balls11:06
arcanistheroguefredforfaen: i had to reformat, and now i cant install anything11:06
d2dchatlol11:06
marskaPuff: Intel bundles their pentium m's with the Centrino chipset11:06
dooglusOetzi: it was fine on hoary.  it's a new bug for breezy.11:06
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Auxinomg :-/11:06
ccooked2dchat: okay, then11:06
dooglusOetzi: you can sign up here: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13724 to get email when anything's done on the bug11:06
puffhttp://pastebin.com/37620711:06
d2dchatccooke so im screwed?11:06
ccooked2dchat: nope.11:06
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Oetzithx dooglus11:06
ccooked2dchat: not at all.11:06
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dooglusOetzi: set "LANG=C" before running an X app and you'll not see the warning, if that's any use...11:07
d2dchatccooke are we mkaing a new partition on the linux drive?11:07
dooglusOetzi: or use a UTF8 locale11:07
d2dchator a new one to the windows drive?11:07
ccooked2dchat: we will be.11:07
puffmarska: Damn.11:07
ccooked2dchat: first thing to do is see if there's any free space to use11:07
marskaWhats the Wiki page for the Breezy Upgrade?11:07
ccooked2dchat: sudo fdisk /dev/hda11:07
fredforfaenarcanistherogue no i think this is a error caused by moven of some folders on a server11:07
kemikmarska:  topic11:07
Skidanyone have a cisco pcmcia aironet 350 ?11:07
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nalioth!tell marska about upgrade2breezy11:08
Skidif so - do you use eth1, or wifi0 ?11:08
marskaThank you11:08
arcanistheroguefredforfaen: yeah, it cant find amarok11:08
Skidas wifi0 doesn't like me :p, but eth1 is fine11:08
ccooked2dchat: and type 'v'11:08
arcanistheroguefredforfaen: or java runtime environment.  i had to install using alien and an .rpm file.11:08
cesarinhelp!!!, today's patch for ubuntu ATE my WindowsXP booting information! x_X11:08
fredforfaendamn arcanistherogue11:08
dooglusOetzi: note comment #1 in that bug - someone found a workaround11:08
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cesarinits now gone x_X11:08
fredforfaenwait it out , it may be in order tomorrow11:08
d2dchat2727811:08
mscheringHi11:08
Skidcesarin: sounds like you'll need to re-install grub into the MBR11:08
cosmincesarin you're scaring me , i'm updating it now !11:08
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d2dchatccooke 27278 sectors unallocated11:09
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cesarinSkid,  how do I reinstall it? >_<11:09
doogluscesarin: it broke my lilo too11:09
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mscheringI am in the right place to ask a question about Breezy?11:09
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cesarinI dont want to damage my enire partition11:09
Skidsearcht he forums mate, I dont know off the top of my head11:09
Skidit wont touch your other partitions if you install it into the correct location ;)11:09
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ccooked2dchat: okay. bear with me just a minute, I need to check something11:09
cesarindooglus,  any workaround to fix that? :(11:09
doogluscesarin: you using lilo or grub?11:09
jjazzmschering:  You can ask.  No guarantees on answers tho. ;)11:09
butcherbirdcesarin, you are still able to boot to ubuntu?11:09
cesaringrub 1.511:09
Auxin<< brb reboot11:09
d2dchatccooke k11:09
cesarinbutcherbird, yeah, but the windows XP partition is gone11:09
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Skid*gone* ?11:10
ccooked2dchat: okay, good.11:10
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Skidor do you mean there's no option on bootup?11:10
ccooked2dchat: let's see11:10
butcherbirdcesarin, /boot/grub/menu.list showing a windows partition?11:10
cesarinbutcherbird, the weird thing is, I now have REPETITIVE linux bootsups, Example, insteath of having only 2 kernerls 686, I now have 4 options11:10
ccooked2dchat: apt-get install ntfstools11:10
mscheringthanks jjazz, I have a problem with hdd activity. The led stays on11:10
doogluscesarin: I was using lilo.  I rebooed to the install cd, typed 'rescue', edited lilo.conf and ran 'lilo'.  I never managed to get grub working at all.11:10
ccooked2dchat: there's an ntfs partition resizing tool in there11:10
puffAnybody know a good channel to ask about a rhythmbox problem?11:10
cesarinbutcherbird, nope, the "BOOT" menu on "X" shows only linux11:10
jjazzmschering:  I advise you to put a little piece of duct tape over the light.11:10
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cesarinit even doesnt detect a "XP" or "windows" kind of partitions11:10
d2dchatccooke lol, E: unmet depencies!!11:10
ccooked2dchat: fun!11:11
mscheringno good, the drive gets hot11:11
mscheringeven read topics saying the drive broke11:11
mscheringwith breezy11:11
dooglusmschering: search bugzilla, and if it's not already there, report it.  bugzilla.ubuntu.com/11:11
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d2dchatccooke yea, thats what broke my ubuntu from the begining11:11
ccooked2dchat: okay11:11
cesarinbutcherbird, is there a way to add it manually on the boot of grub?11:11
butcherbirdcesarin, could you just add an entry for windows in menu.lst11:11
cesarinor theres an autodetect thingie?11:11
mscheringbug is alredy filed by someone else11:12
cevizoglujjazz, that's ridiculous!  electric tape works much better11:12
mscheringbut nobody is answering11:12
cesarinbutcherbird,  give me details man? never move grub in my whole life11:12
ccooked2dchat: which ext2resize - does that find anything?11:12
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mscheringevent though a lot of people are having this poblem11:12
naliothcesarin: you may edit your grub menu.lst and update it11:12
gloriais this chat line for the world smartest linux geeks?? I have it and don't know how to use it.11:12
d2dchatccooke nope.11:12
dooglusmschering: is this it? https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1625111:12
cesarinnalioth, yeah but where and how? :P11:12
jjazzcevizoglu:  You're right.  My mistake.11:12
cesarinI dont know what to add or what to move11:12
naliothgloria: ask a question11:12
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ccooked2dchat: okay11:13
beefcakeanyone who feels like helping me out with somethin? :)11:13
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cevizoglugloria, go to google and search for "getting started with linux"11:13
butcherbirdyou'll have to google for an example of the text unless somone here can paste for you.  Do you know the partition hda2 or whatever for windows?11:13
d2dchatbeefcake I would if i wasnt stuck in console;)11:13
gloriathanks11:13
cesarinnope, I got the windows XP on HDA111:13
mscheringyes thats it11:13
cevizoglugloria, then take your pick of the best results for learning linux11:13
cesarinHDB is a NTF for my main files, I got 2 hdds11:13
naliothcesarin: you are probably fine. just browse file:///usr/share/docs/grub/11:13
mscheringI' m afraid to use ubuntu now11:13
dooglusmschering: you have a sony laptop too?11:13
d2dchatbeefcake but generally the trend is you're supposed to just ask the question, not ask if you can ask11:13
beefcakeI cant get in to change write protected documents, for example sources.list11:14
mscheringi' m afraid my hard drive will go bad11:14
d2dchatbeefcake or if anyone wants to help11:14
mscheringno11:14
mscheringI have a deskto11:14
mscheringasus p5gdc11:14
cesarinone of 80 gigs ( main windows ) other of 250 Gigs, partitiones in 200 Gigs for windows, 30 gigs in linux 2 gigs for share, and 3 gigs for "trade fat32 for compatibility )11:14
mscheringwith SATA disk11:14
d2dchatbeefcake, open Root Terminal11:14
mscheringseems to be SATA related11:14
cevizoglugloria, oops, I meant search for: "getting started with ubuntu" my bad11:14
ccooked2dchat: which resize2fs?11:14
dooglusmschering: why not add your story to that bug then?11:14
beefcakeits open :)11:14
d2dchatbeefcake then writing should be a piece of cake11:14
mscheringYeah I will11:14
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frachouhi11:15
dooglusmschering: the more information about the problem there is in the bug report, the better the chance of fixing it11:15
mscheringwas hoping someone could tell me a quick fix here11:15
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mscheringI will add my story right now11:15
d2dchatccooke /sbin/resize2fs11:15
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ccooked2dchat: *excellent*11:15
ccooked2dchat: okay, here's what we do11:15
beefcaked2dchat: whe i use the sudo command to get in to add extra repositories11:15
gloriahow can i get in touch with you if I need more help later on???11:15
ccooked2dchat: first, you need to tell me how much is *used* by your root filesystem - the Size column of 'df -h /'11:15
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d2dchatsudo pico sources.list or sudo gedit sources.list11:16
ccooked2dchat: okay?11:16
naliothbeefcake: be careful of nonofficial repos11:16
butcherbirdcesarin, one thing to remember with grub hda1 is hd0,0 grub starts at 0 not 1 other than that any example you find  on google you could probably cut and paste11:16
mscheringbut nobody here knows something about this problem?11:16
naliothgloria: just come on back in here11:16
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cesarinnalioth, the readme doesnt contain info11:16
ccooked2dchat: sorry, the Used column11:16
d2dchatccooke so df -h ?11:16
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d2dchatccooke so df -h / ?11:16
ccooked2dchat: do a 'df -h /'11:16
naliothgloria: your irc client Xchat will bring you in here directly11:16
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naliothcesarin: open a terminal and type "man grub"11:16
QMarioHello Seveas and thoreauputic!!! :)11:16
jjazzmschering:  All jokes aside, if somebody here knew about your problem and was inclined to respond, they would surely have done so by now.11:16
beefcakenalioth: this is what I get when I do excatly as it says on the unoficial ubunti guide: sudo: gedit: command not found11:16
d2dchatccooke and from that what did you want?11:16
ccooked2dchat: and tell me the "Used" and "Available" columns11:16
naliothbeefcake: the ubuntuguide WILL kill your system11:17
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beefcakenooo? :)11:17
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naliothbeefcake: no ifs, ands, or buts11:17
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nalioth!tell beefcake about repos11:17
mscheringYou' re right, thanks for answering though. I will add my comments to the bug report11:17
barongasHmmm, one of the issues my firefox had is still there... The contextual menues open in new tab and open in new window doesn't work11:17
d2dchatUsed 5.6 GBs Avail 63gb11:17
ccooked2dchat: great11:17
ccooked2dchat: that's pretty excellent11:17
cevizoglunalioth, I wish a had a nickel for every time someone here said ubuntuguide sux11:17
cesarinnalioth, brownsing official's wiki of grub11:18
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d2dchatccooke ;) its a fairly new seagate hd11:18
amorph_does anyone knows what to do against sloppy audio-playback ?11:18
beefcakenalioth: but I cant even mount my ntfs partition without being able to edit write protected files..11:18
barongasThe reason I think is a plugin called tabbrowser, any idea on how to remove such a plugin from firefox?11:18
naliothcevizoglu: me too11:18
ccooked2dchat: okay, what we're going to do is reduce that down, and make a new partition for your home directory11:18
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ccooked2dchat: using the free space we create11:18
nalioth!tell beefcake about ntfs11:18
d2dchatccooke ok11:18
ccooked2dchat: now, this will take a bit of time11:18
ccooked2dchat: but it's safe.11:18
d2dchatbeefcake you have linux installed on ntfs??11:18
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ccooked2dchat: the steps we're going to use are:11:19
belhifethow can i burn an .iso file in ubuntu>?11:19
beefcaked2dchat: no no ext2...11:19
ccooked2dchat: 1) resize the filesystem on /dev/hda1 to 10G11:19
jjazzbelhifet:  man cdrecord11:19
d2dchatbeefcake then what are you trying to edit using ntfs? sources.list is under ext211:19
ccooked2dchat: 2) resize the *partition* /dev/hda1 to 12G11:19
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ccooked2dchat: 3) create a new partition using the remaining space11:19
cesarinnalioth, seems ubuntu's grub is not the same as the "oficial" grub, since it says they dont support booting windows, ? o_O11:19
beefcakei just want to be able to read my win files, such as mp311:19
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d2dchatccooke once i back up the files, can i resize the partitions back?11:20
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casI've problems with my backports in breezy on a amd64. If i command out the default lines of change them to -staging it can't download the packagelist11:20
naliothbelhifet: use k3b, gnomebaker or graveman11:20
d2dchatbeefcake then you need to mount your windows hard drive, unless you have one hd11:20
ccooked2dchat: 4) resize the filesystem in /dev/hda1 to fill the 12G parition11:20
d2dchatbeefcake how many harddrives?11:20
ccooked2dchat: you can, but you really should have /home on a different partition anyway11:20
naliothbeefcake: use the file ubotu sent you, you can read your NTFS all you like11:20
beefcaked2dchat: I got 1 hd11:20
d2dchatccooke whys that?11:20
casbelhifet, I like k3b to burn cd's. Its easy, good but QT software11:21
ccooked2dchat: 12G is more than ubuntu is ever likely to need, and the rest will be your home directory, so the stuff you actually use11:21
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beefcaked2dchat: I will see if it works :)11:21
doogluswhy have /home on a separate partition though?11:21
test34-ccooke, why should you have a different partition for /home ?11:21
ccooked2dchat: also, it means even if something trashes your ubuntu partition, you're only a reinstall away from getting everything back11:21
beefcaked2dchat: but why cant I edit write protected files?11:21
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belhifetany that's already default?11:21
naliothdooglus: so you can reinstall totally w/o losing your personal data11:21
d2dchatwell if the hd is already mounted, there is a nother way to access the partition that im not familiar with11:21
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belhifetprogram for burning isos11:21
d2dchatbecause linux cant write to ntfs11:21
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belhifetwithout needing to download one11:21
naliothbeefcake: writing to NTFS will kill any ntfs data you have11:22
fredforfaenanyone else having trouble with backports apt server?11:22
dooglusnalioth: reinstall deletes /home otherwise?11:22
d2dchatccooke can i make the home partition bigger?11:22
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naliothbeefcake: microsoft likes it that way11:22
ccooked2dchat: sure.11:22
naliothdooglus: if your /home is on the /, yes11:22
d2dchatccooke considering thats what ill be using.. but i use /var/www alot will that effect anything?11:22
fredforfaenanyone pls?11:22
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ccooked2dchat: are you likely to put 12 gigs there?11:22
casbelhifet, cdrecord is installed by default, man cdrecord11:22
d2dchatccooke i dunno, i like to downloa dmusic:) but then again most of that is on my windows machine11:23
beefcaked2dchat: its ok, I dont want to write anything to the ntfs partitions, but I want to be able to write and edit files on ext211:23
linnernalioth: may i pm you?11:23
ccooked2dchat: if you download music in ubuntu, it'll go into your home directory anyway11:23
d2dchatbeefcake you can do that .. just use gedit or some other editor11:23
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belhifetcas:how do i run it as root?11:23
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naliothbeefcake: read what ubotu sent you on ntfs, and you'll be fine11:24
naliothlinner: yes11:24
d2dchatccooke right i was saying that i might want to conserve some space for /var/www for my website stuff too11:24
beefcakeyeg I tried that, but all I get is: sudo: gedit: command not found11:24
ccooked2dchat: right. Is it likely to get over 10 gigabytes?11:24
d2dchatbeefcake listen to nalioth, that will probably set you straight to play mp3s11:24
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ccooked2dchat: if so, pick a number.11:24
dooglusbeefcake: "sudo apt-get install gedit"11:24
fredforfaencan anyone tell me if their backports repos work!?!?11:24
d2dchatccooke i think it shouldnt11:24
ccooked2dchat: right. Then 12G will be good enough11:24
linnerI'm having some problems setting up the ndiswrapper with my Broadcom wlan.11:24
linneroops11:24
ccooked2dchat: okay. Ready?11:24
d2dchatdooglus i thought gedit was a gnome standard?11:25
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d2dchatccooke *breaths* I dunno11:25
linnersorry folks :)11:25
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d2dchatccooke ;)11:25
naliothfredforfaen: backports are not too functional atm11:25
ccooked2dchat: heh11:25
dooglusd2dchat: apparently it is.  but sounds like beefcake doesn't have it...11:25
beefcaked2dchat: thank u very much :)11:25
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dooglusubuntu-desktop depends on gedit11:25
fredforfaennalioth got another apt source insted?11:25
d2dchatd2dchat no prob, i dont think i did that much;)11:25
ccooked2dchat: I promise not to let you fry your system unless you try *very* hard. ;-)11:25
d2dchatccooke we should bet some money on it hehe11:25
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ccooked2dchat: heh11:25
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d2dchatccooke jk11:26
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d2dchatccooke alright, lets GO!11:26
ccooked2dchat: right11:26
dooglusccooke: I've had resizefs make a filesystem unusable before11:26
dooglusccooke: you sure it's 'safe'?11:26
d2dchatdooglus shhhh11:26
dooglusoh, ok.11:26
d2dchatccooke im shittin my pants right now11:26
d2dchat;)11:26
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tgaanyone here using the last.fm player?11:26
ccookedooglus: it's never broken anything of mine11:26
beefcakeSo, I will leave  http://ubuntuguide.org/ alone for the time beeing..11:26
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ccookedooglus: used it a few times11:26
dooglusccooke: that's ok then.11:26
ccooked2dchat: okay. the first thing to do is *make sure nothing is writing*11:27
dooglusso long as it's worked like 3 times in a row, that proves it's fine :)11:27
belhifethow do i run cdrecord as root?11:27
Oetzidooglus: so the fix doesn't work11:27
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nixiacnoob and I cannot see the two hard drive partitions that I did set up in Install of Ubuntu.  They are a reiserfs and a ext3 , each of 68 Gb of sounds, Linux and BSD ISOs. Anyone know what I should do? They ARE in the device list and I put them as /mnt/srv and /mnt/opt during install.11:27
ccooked2dchat: unmount /dev/sda1 (it would be safe anyway,but there's no point taking silly risks)11:27
Oetzii fallback on POSIX for know and wait for a bugfix11:27
renjiiack, i've borked the mplayer interface language. :S How do i reset it to eng?11:28
ccooked2dchat: and type:11:28
butcherbirdtga, looked at it a little never really used it11:28
ccooked2dchat: mount -o remount,ro /11:28
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ccooked2dchat: Does that work?11:28
tgabutcherbird, I'm trying to figure a way to change the theme of the static binary11:28
Spoilerheada question, is it posible to give a framebuffer console a background wallpaper without patching the kernel?11:28
ccooked2dchat: (if you have too much stuff running at the moment, it won't. That's fixable, though)11:28
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sinferno_hey im trying to install ubuntu on a fujistsu laptop with no floppy and no cd rom, it just has network connectivity11:28
LasseLhm, what is the trick for executing some command on the result of another command? like ls *.rar | "dosomething on each rar"11:28
sinferno_is this even recommended?11:28
cesarinhmm, most instructions to fix the problem only talks about "LILO" and not grub o_O11:29
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d2dchatccooke sry repeat11:29
d2dchatccooke my dad came in11:29
ccooked2dchat: okay11:29
ccooked2dchat: type this:11:29
ccooked2dchat: umount /dev/sda111:29
linnerhey guys.... forget the nevermind earlier.. I do still need help with the ndiswrapper for my broadcom wlan.  I've been following the steps from this "howto":  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper.  I'm stuck on line 4.11:29
ccooked2dchat: mount -o remount,ro /11:29
d2dchatccooke had to minimize the text porn ;) jk11:29
sinferno_it has the image on the hard drive11:29
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ccooked2dchat: heh11:29
d2dchatccooke umount the hd i am on?11:30
gloriahow hard is it to get started with ubuntu on a scale from 1 to 10????????  any one.11:30
sinferno_anyone run linux on a fujitsu?11:30
sinferno_ever11:30
ccooked2dchat: ... I thought you said sda1 was the ntfs?11:30
nixiacbelhifet: you want to do the cdrecord -help  and get the exact instructions/sequence and 'switches' for your system, right?11:30
beefcaked2dchat: wow, that worked like a charm! thanks11:30
ccooked2dchat: okay, if I've got those mixed up, umount /dev/hda111:30
d2dchatbeefcake no prob! except i think some of the credit goes to other ppl too11:30
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ccooked2dchat: unmount the ntfs disk, anyway.11:30
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d2dchatccooke sda = SATA right?11:30
ccooked2dchat: then remount the root read-only11:30
linnerWhen I try to "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" i get another terminal line... thinking I should see an action of some sort from Linux11:30
ccooked2dchat: that's right.11:30
John2583I'm on a fresh 5.10 preview AMD 64 ubuntu install. Things are broken, GDM/X tries to load up X but monitor can't display that resolution. I have no root password set currently.. how do I get root so I can start trying to fix things?11:31
d2dchatok sda is linux11:31
ccooked2dchat: (sda = SCSI; SATA drives pretend to be scsi)11:31
naliothlinner: no you've done right11:31
linneri have?11:31
naliothlinner: when you see nothing, you are done.11:31
d2dchatccooke ok, so umount /dev/hda111:31
linnerok...11:31
ccooked2dchat: yes.11:31
naliothlinner: you are fine11:31
linnerbut then it's supposed to come up in the networking module right?11:31
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linnerbecause the only thing i see is an eth011:31
linnershouldn't i see the wlan?11:31
cesarinI think i fixed it, brb11:31
d2dchatccooke would've been funny if i unmounted sda;)11:31
NinjewJohn2583: Use 'sudo su' to get a root console11:32
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ccooked2dchat: I'd be impressed if you managed.11:32
John2583Ninjew: thanks11:32
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d2dchatccooke what was the remount thing?11:32
linnernalioth:  so i can configure the settings?11:32
ccooked2dchat: you need to set the root filesystem read-only.11:32
ccooked2dchat: mount -o remount,ro /11:32
NinjewJohn2583: np, that threw me for a loop the first time I installed ubuntu also11:32
ccooked2dchat: that way, you can be sure nothing will try to write to it and potentially fuck up the resizing.11:32
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d2dchatmount / is busy11:32
naliothlinner: heh, i only knew the answer to your "get a new prompt" question11:33
nixiacgloria: Ubunto 5.04 install here, yesterday, after over a year of Knoppix... Gnome, instead of KDE!  That is the only thing, except for some changes in the folder tree.  "Where is my 68Gb of sounds, ISOs, supposed to be in ext3 format,  /mnt/hda2 I installed as /mnt/opt"?11:33
ccooked2dchat: okay. That's because you have too much stuff.11:33
naliothccooke: please with the lingo11:33
d2dchatnalioth you mean the lang;)11:33
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ccookeheh.11:33
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sinferno_lol11:33
d2dchatnalioth it helped me understand better;)11:33
John2583Ninjew: hehe ya.. i was booted up on it and it wasn't working so i dropped to console and then realized i never had entered a root passwd yet11:33
nixiacSheesh, some folks quit after 10 seconds, when you are trying to get some info out to them!11:33
ExodusCan someone help me with my fstab, i'm trying to mount a vfat partition with user being able to rwx on it but it seems users can only rwx on the directory it's mounted on and not any subdirectories of the partition.11:34
d2dchatnalioth and honestly are there any 12 year olds in here?11:34
linnerif anyone has experience with the NDISWRAPPER and can help me configure it from here... I'd really, REALLY appreciate it :)11:34
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nalioth!tell Exodus about windowsdrives11:34
RockyBurthrm, any pointers on getting regular wlan (no encryption) on ubuntu breezy badger? having a hard time with it11:34
d2dchatccooke so what do i do?11:34
Exodusnalioth, thanks.11:34
ccooked2dchat: now, you're going to need to kill everything you can. The safest way to do that right now is to type "init 1" - this will probably kill you screen session, mind, and leave you with a single console.11:34
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ccooked2dchat: once you're there, run screen again11:35
d2dchatccooke noooo;)11:35
d2dchatall i have is two screens, this one and an empty screen11:35
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FlyingSquirrel32How can I tell which version of GTK I'm on?11:35
d2dchathow is that too much?11:35
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ccooked2dchat: that's all the processes you can see11:35
ccooked2dchat: do a ps auwwx | less11:35
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ccooked2dchat: you'll have more11:35
RMeist:)11:36
d2dchatccooke gotcha11:36
d2dchatbrb11:36
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ccooked2dchat: (anything with a name in [square brackets]  is fine, it's a kernel thing. Everything else is a process still running11:36
nixiacFlyingSquirrel32:  Is that like gtk -r  (like for lthe kernel is rname -r)?11:36
tonkarhi all! somebody knows how can i give a normal user privileges to mount and to read partitions?11:36
d2dchatccooke the only thing not in brackets is11:37
d2dchatdhclient311:37
ccooked2dchat: great11:37
ccooked2dchat: killall dhclient311:37
jjazztonkar:  man fstab11:37
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dooglustonkar: normal users use 'sudo' to mount stuff, and they need to be in the 'admin' group to use sudo11:37
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ccooked2dchat: then try the remount11:37
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ccooked2dchat: mount -o remount,ro /11:37
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dooglustonkar: or use the "user" option in /etc/fstab for the partitions you want users to be able to mount11:37
d2dchatccooke still says its busy11:37
ccooked2dchat: hmm. is dhclient3 still running?11:38
dooglusd2dchat: sudo fuser -c /11:38
d2dchatyea11:38
ccooked2dchat: killall -9 dhclient311:38
d2dchatdooglus what does that do?11:38
ccooked2dchat: (die! die!)11:38
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dooglusd2dchat: shows processes using the / partitoin11:38
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tonkarok ..... i will try, but i don't want it with sudo11:38
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FlyingSquirrel32nixiac: no, I donn't think that works... hrmmm.11:39
dooglusccooke: are you suggesting that d2dchat should resize his root partition while running linux from it?11:39
FlyingSquirrel32what version of gnome is on the breezy preview?11:39
dooglusFlyingSquirrel32: 2.1211:39
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jjazztonkar:  I believe you want the 'user' option11:39
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fredforfaenanybody else in here struggeling with the backports repos?11:40
misfit_toyhey dooglus were you here yesterday when I asked that question about the cpu suddenly going to 99%? It was kded11:40
doogluskded?11:40
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naliothfredforfaen: they are down or gone (i'm not sure which)11:40
Travis|Hhmm, I have breezy preview installed .. i was wondering if Azureus is broken currently .. or if it was taken out of the repositories .. or what the deal is11:40
doogluswhat's that?11:40
misfit_toyyeah11:40
dooglusaah.11:40
misfit_toyno idea,  yet11:40
tonkarjjazz: yep, i have just done it, but i have now problems with permissions11:40
dooglussounds like it's KDE-ish?11:40
ccookedooglus: yes. It is safe, but only if you've made sure there's no disk activity.11:40
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ccookedooglus: hence remounting.11:41
d2dchatuuuuuggggh11:41
d2dchatim just gonna bring back hoary11:41
misfit_toydooglus, maybe kde daemon?11:41
tonkarjjazz:  chmod 777 /mnt ??11:41
ccooked2dchat: okay.11:41
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fredforfaennalioth they are not gone , just moved...but i guess i have to wait untill it settles down11:41
d2dchatccooke do you know of a place i can wget the sources.list file for hoary?11:41
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threadanyone else lost their synaptic touchpad after upgrading to breezy?11:41
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BooZeei think something got scrued up in my transfer to KDE.11:41
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dooglusmisfit_toy: it comes as part of the kdelibs-bin package11:42
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dooglusmisfit_toy: you should be able to run "man kded" to see what it is11:42
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d2dchatdoes anyone know of a location where i can wget the hoary sources.list file?11:42
misfit_toydooglus, and the funny thing is...I don't even run kde, I just have the libs installed for a few things like K3b, I run gnome!!11:42
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ccooked2dchat: the basic one is 'deb http://archive.ubuntu.org/ubuntu hoary main restricted universe multiverse'11:42
naliothd2dchat: check the wiki11:42
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dooglusmisfit_toy: I keep the KDE libs off my PC11:42
d2dchatnalioth kinda stuck in console;)11:42
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ccooked2dchat: but you can find the default one on the wiki, I believe11:43
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d2dchatcan i just change all the breezy's to hoary's?11:43
ccooked2dchat: yes, you can.11:43
naliothd2dchat: use links, lynx or w3m11:43
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naliothd2dchat: you are not STUCK anywhere11:43
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NinjewI've got a question that I'm sure has been asked a billion times: I'm running amd64 warty, and its pretty damn fast, but architecture incompatabilities are giving me headaches -- is there a large performance increase with amd64 architecture over x86?11:43
misfit_toydooglus, I may do that if gnomebaker will do everything k3b will11:43
tonkarmmm ..... dooglus, if i have problems with read permissions when i mount a partition with a normal user, what shpuld i do? chmod -R 777 /mnt is very slow11:44
naliothmisfit_toy: it doesnt11:44
ccookedooglus: have you had trouble with it?11:44
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misfit_toynalioth, yeah, it didn't look that way to me either11:44
ccookegah.11:44
misfit_toykded  triggers Sycoca database updates when needed11:44
naliothNinjew: you'll be better off running a k7 or 686 kernel11:44
d2dchatok, i saved the sources.list file11:44
d2dchatdo i just apt-get update?11:45
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dooglusccooke: with that?11:45
misfit_toynalioth, what about graveman?11:45
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dooglusccooke: with WHAT, sorry?11:45
ccookedooglus: resizing partitions.11:45
ccookedooglus: yes11:45
misfit_toyoh wait, I bet nerolinux does everything k3b does...11:45
naliothmisfit_toy: it's even less featured11:45
dooglusccooke: once I lost a partition from resizing it, yes.11:45
d2dchatdo i just apt-get update now?11:45
Travis|HI have some wackey hardware right now, It's a Asrock P4Dual-775 motherboard. It has a PCI-E and an AGP slot on the motherboard, and it seems to cause my AGP card (an nVidia ti4200) to crash Xorg when I use the nvidia driver, but the nv driver works just fine. My question is.. anyone ever heard of this .. or know of a way to get around the problem? (Windows XP happens to install the proper driver and the card works fine)11:45
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ccooked2dchat: yes.11:45
dooglusccooke: fortunately I had backed it up first11:45
naliothmisfit_toy: nerolinux is not a good choice11:45
Ninjewnalioth: oh well, I guess i'll switch if there really is no performance gain -- is there anyway to use apt-get to switch the architecture of all the packages I have? I doubt it11:45
misfit_toynalioth, because of GPL?11:45
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ccookedooglus: hmm. out of interest, had you remounted read-only?11:46
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ccookedooglus: and was it recent?11:46
naliothmisfit_toy: i dont like commercial things11:46
bushkTravis|H, i'd say it's not the hardware config, but rather your xorg config that's the problem.11:46
Travis|Hhmmmm11:46
d2dchatccooke whats after apt-get update?11:47
tonkar=S ...., nobody knows what can i do if when i mount a partition with a normal user i have problems with permissions?11:47
Travis|Hi followed the ubuntuguide.org on installing the nvidia driver11:47
ccookeI've used resize2fs about seven or eight times, all on the root fs.11:47
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misfit_toynalioth, I agree...tough decision though, having my cpu spike out of the blue or using nerolinux...11:47
Exodusnalioth, can you help me with the problem i had earlier.11:47
ccookebut only within the last six months.11:47
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dooglusccooke: it must have been over a year ago, using Mandrakelinux11:47
bushkTravis|H, i always just edit it manually.11:47
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naliothExodus: what was that?11:47
ccooked2dchat: hmm. Try apt-get dist-upgrade11:47
JustinHHhello11:47
Exodusnalioth, it's a fat32 partition, but normal users can rwx just on some files...11:47
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Exodussome random files they can't touch11:47
ccooked2dchat: you were halfway into an upgrade, yes?11:47
bushkTravis|H, man xorg; man xorg.conf; vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf :)11:48
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ccookedooglus: hmm. Do you remember if you remounted read-only?11:48
Exoduscheck this ls -l string11:48
Exodusdrwxrwxrwx  19 exodus exodus   16384 2005-09-11 00:12 Betty11:48
Travis|Hyea i've edited the /etc/X11/xorg.conf myself11:48
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naliothExodus: did you run that script?11:48
Exodusi try to move that file somewhere and it doesn't let me11:48
Travis|Hand it will boot when i have "nv" .. and fail when i use "nvidia"11:48
Exodusnalioth, i did11:48
ccooked2dchat: ... you know, there's always a simpler answer.11:48
JustinHHduring a configuration this message appears  <<Can not find the X libraries.>> what are these x libraries and what shoul i do11:48
dooglusccooke: it wasn't the root partition11:48
Exodusnalioth, there are some files i can rwx but some other i can't, even having permissions.11:48
dooglusccooke: the system I was resizing wasn't mounted at all11:49
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ccookedooglus: okay, that's weird!11:49
Exoduswierd.11:49
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bushkTravis|H, those are just descriptors, maybe they point to the wrong place?  if not, then it sounds like the `nvidia` is configured wrong.11:49
dooglusccooke: how do you get to remount re-only anyway?11:49
Travis|Hya im gonna play with it some more .. ive screwed this install up pretty bad11:49
dooglusccooke: every process keeps the root filesystem open, doesn't it?11:49
d2dchatccooke well i just need something up11:49
wolverianshould xv be working in breezy?11:49
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Travis|Hi'm using the Preview Release of Breezy (and tried Hoary) both had the same thing happen .. so i've ruled out it being a breezy issue .......11:50
naliothExodus: not even using "sudo" to change the permissions?11:50
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ccooked2dchat: how does this grab you - tar up your home directory and anything else you want to save. Boot into windows. There's a windows ext2 driver...11:50
ccooked2dchat: which is easy to find, and works.11:50
Exodusnalioth, yes, root can do what ever...11:50
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JustinHHduring a configuration this message appears  <<Can not find the X libraries.>> what are these x libraries and what shoul i do???11:50
Travis|Hmy question is ... what is Colony? .. should i stick with trying to use the Preview Release or just get Colony 5?11:50
ccooked2dchat: one backup, without any risks.11:50
d2dchatccooke i might just wait in two weeks:(11:50
d2dchatlol11:50
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d2dchatand if im still having problems11:50
d2dchatthen ill tar it up11:50
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ccooked2dchat: is the dist-upgrade working?11:50
ccooked2dchat: you need to get everything back to the hoary version.11:51
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d2dchatit didnt, so i used sudo apt-get -f install11:51
naliothExodus: on a vfat partition, you shouldnt need permissions anyway, but you might try sudo to change the ones giving you diffeculties11:51
ccookedooglus: many things do. that's why you drop to init 111:51
d2dchatthen im gonna try apt-get dist_upgrade too11:51
d2dchatdist-upgrade*11:51
dooglusccooke: if you drop to init 1, you lose your IRC connection...11:51
naliothJustinHH: install "xlibs-dev"11:51
ccookedooglus: kill everything you can, then remount the partition read-only11:51
ccookedooglus: you can start it up again :-)11:51
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dooglusccooke: so you may as well boot to a rescue disk - then you can resize the root partition without it being mounted11:52
ccookedooglus: oh, sure.11:52
JustinHHwhere can i get "xlibs-dev"?11:52
d2dchathey guys, does apt-get -f install do the trick to bring it back ?11:52
d2dchatbecause apt-get dist-updrade didnt work11:52
nalioth!tell JustinHH about synaptic11:52
d2dchatupgrade*11:52
dooglusJustinHH: just "sudo apt-get install xlibs-dev"11:52
JustinHHnalioth, :  where can i get "xlibs-dev"?11:52
naliothd2dchat: wont hurt11:53
d2dchatit told me to try apt-get -f install11:53
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naliothJustinHH: read the love ubotu sent you11:53
d2dchatnalioth well im just hoping it will be back to what i twas11:53
test34-anyone got the intel i815 video chipset to work as fast as it should in X?11:53
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Exodusnalioth, oh found the problem..heh, thanks for the help.11:53
JustinHHPackage xlibs-dev is not available, but is referred to by another package.11:54
dooglushow much space does a hoary install take up?11:54
Travis|Hi have onboard i915 that i was considering trying if I can't get the accelerated nvidia driver to work11:54
dooglusa desktop hoary install11:54
d2dchatdooglus why how big is your hd?11:54
Exodusit seems there is file permissions taking place on the partition..wierd.11:54
ccookedooglus: less than 2 gig11:54
dooglusd2dchat: it's 40Gb, but it's partitioned into lots of small bits.  windows, mandrake, breezy, um...11:54
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d2dchatdooglus gotcha:)11:55
moparfan90hello.11:55
dooglusI have a 3.7Gb partition with mandrake on it which I'm thinking can disappear.  I've not used it for months11:55
naliothJustinHH: that doesnt sound right to me11:55
test34-Travis|H, doesnt work very good for me.. was working fine in slackware before thought (xorg too)11:55
nixiacFlyingSquirrel32:  I just looked in my >system>Administration>SynapticPackage Manager, under> Graphics, and it shows what is installed!11:55
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moparfan90i need to install the correct drivers for my nvidia GeFource FX 5200 video card can someone help me one this please11:57
dooglusJustinHH: what does "apt-cache policy xlibs-dev" show you against "Candidate:"?11:58
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d2dchatjesus11:58
d2dchatthank god its back11:58
d2dchatlol11:58
uojoestoy haciendo un script en bash shell i tengo ya esto:for i in $(cat /home/meri/Desktop/ASO/passwd | tr -s ' ' '+' | tr -s ',' '+'); do11:58
uojo11:58
uojodirectori=$(echo $i | cut -d ':' -f 6)11:58
uojoecho "directori:$directori"11:58
uojodone11:58
darkheart!es11:59
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.11:59
d2dchatat least i know i can also revert back to hoary ;)11:59
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uojocomo busco el $directori k me devuelvee en mi PC?11:59
ccooked2dchat: *grin*11:59
d2dchatok, well, guess i gotta wait 2 weeks for official breezy release;)12:00
naliothuojo: habla espanol?12:00

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