| Tonio- | Riddell: http://ns2708.ovh.net/temp/adept.svg | 12:23 |
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| Tonio- | you might not like but juste be honest ;) | 12:23 |
| allee | Tonio-: the CDROM needs a bit more contrast. Try ctrl-- until it's as small as in window deko. Hard to spot | 12:25 |
| Tonio- | yep | 12:26 |
| Tonio- | contrast in not well actually | 12:26 |
| Tonio- | but appart from that ? | 12:26 |
| Tonio- | it was hard to find something really different from synaptic ;) | 12:26 |
| allee | Tonio-: gnome 'is' brown and kde is blue. Not sure what this brainstorm will tell us | 12:26 |
| Tonio- | allee: yep but a bluebox ? | 12:26 |
| allee | blueray disk??? ;) | 12:27 |
| Tonio- | LOL | 12:27 |
| Tonio- | I mean, the box is brown because, well boxes are brown ;) | 12:27 |
| allee | Tonio-: seriously it was just a thought that jumped to my mind. No idea if it's helpful | 12:27 |
| Tonio- | but yep, maybe we ahve something to do with colors | 12:27 |
| Tonio- | it maybe doesn't suit enough with kde color sheme... that's my feeling, do you agree allee ? | 12:28 |
| allee | blue box (transparent like trash icon) with grey CD? | 12:29 |
| allee | Tonio-: again just brainstorming | 12:29 |
| Tonio- | maybe putting blue colors on the cd | 12:31 |
| Tonio- | I'm testing | 12:31 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: nice | 12:32 |
| allee | Tonio-: at least the CDROM should be bigger compared to the box | 12:32 |
| Riddell | very nice actually, I'm just too tired to complement better just now | 12:33 |
| Riddell | I don't think it needs blue but it could do with a crystal effect | 12:33 |
| allee | Tonio-: instead of the label on the box use a blue '>' icons that is used 'everywhere in adept window | 12:33 |
| Riddell | allee: nice idea | 12:34 |
| allee | at least when _I_ think for a 'typical' symbol for adept a blue '>' pops up. Of course this only helps to recognize when you run adept once ;) | 12:34 |
| Riddell | although I don't think there's an SVG of that | 12:35 |
| Tonio- | allee: bigger than the box ? | 12:35 |
| Tonio- | in front of the box in fact no ? | 12:35 |
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| Riddell | CD size looks fine | 12:35 |
| Riddell | hello hyperactivecrond | 12:35 |
| hyperactivecrond | hey | 12:35 |
| hyperactivecrond | why doesn't ogg/vorbis lib come with kubuntu-desktop? | 12:35 |
| Tonio- | allee: problem is that the label is about invisible when you resize | 12:36 |
| Tonio- | but I will add this yes | 12:36 |
| allee | the > in from of the box maybe 'written' on the label or as a replacement. But I assume for small icons one will not see it anymore | 12:36 |
| Riddell | hyperactivecrond: it does | 12:36 |
| hyperactivecrond | hmm... | 12:36 |
| hyperactivecrond | my bad | 12:36 |
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| Riddell | another satisfied customer :) | 12:36 |
| allee | my maybe just a cd with the overlayed '>' ? | 12:37 |
| Tonio- | overlayed ? | 12:38 |
| Tonio- | -> my dictionnary ;) | 12:38 |
| allee | I mean '>' should not look like it's printed on the CD. Just a CDROM symbol with a big fat slightly transparent '>' in front | 12:39 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: needs two icons no ? | 12:39 |
| Tonio- | one for adept and one for adept updater ? | 12:40 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: hmm, yes. good point | 12:40 |
| Riddell | the updater icon should be a variant of the plain adept one | 12:40 |
| allee | one with '>' other with 'v' ;) | 12:40 |
| Tonio- | okay, so I will do the second adding the "full upgrade" button on the front instead of the label | 12:40 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: sounds good | 12:41 |
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| Tonio- | allee, Riddell: http://ns2708.ovh.net/temp/adept_updater.svg | 01:11 |
| Tonio- | is that good for you ? | 01:11 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: wonderful | 01:14 |
| Tonio- | okay | 01:16 |
| Tonio- | I'm preparing the icon for adept manaer | 01:16 |
| allee | yeah, much better (defenitely better than anything I could do!!) I still have the impression that it's worth a try to make the CD bigger so it's more visible in the small icon version | 01:16 |
| Tonio- | I just hope this will be nice when resized | 01:16 |
| Tonio- | this is the problem, you can't guess how it becomes when you resize it to 16x16 | 01:16 |
| allee | Tonio-: load in konqueror and use ctrl-- several times | 01:17 |
| Tonio- | done and I must say I'm not in love with the result unfortunatly ;) | 01:18 |
| Tonio- | but playing with rounds and border size could help resolving this | 01:18 |
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| sebas | Tonio-: Nitpicking, is the wonkiness shown in http://vizzzion.org/~sebas/tmp/adept.png on purpose or my broken client? | 01:23 |
| Riddell | sebas: what's your SVG program? | 01:28 |
| sebas | Riddell: That "thing" in konqueror, maybe ksvg (from breezy, right what you were afraid of maybe). | 01:29 |
| Riddell | yes, ksvg | 01:29 |
| sebas | Refreshing / zooming does not help, btw. | 01:29 |
| Riddell | ah, I see the part you're looking at | 01:30 |
| Riddell | I presume that isn't the desired effect but I think it's a common issue with ksvg | 01:30 |
| Tonio- | allee, Riddell: http://ns2708.ovh.net/temp/adept_manager.svg | 01:32 |
| Tonio- | is all of that okay for you ? | 01:32 |
| allee | sebas: svg looks fine in hoary and breezy. There were some kde* updates lately. Maybe this confuses konqueror (logout/in should fix it) | 01:33 |
| Tonio- | sebas: I also use ksvg and it if fine. | 01:35 |
| Tonio- | Did you try with maybe firefox for example ? | 01:35 |
| sebas | My firefox doesn't do svg | 01:36 |
| allee | Tonio-: try split left right in konqueror and load the two versions. As small icons the diff between blue and green is hard to spot | 01:36 |
| Tonio- | yes, it needs a plugin.... | 01:36 |
| Tm_T | preparing to (re)booting breezy -> | 01:36 |
| Tonio- | allee: I know | 01:36 |
| Tonio- | that's the problem | 01:36 |
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| Tonio- | the icons don't suit nice when reduced a lot.... | 01:37 |
| Tonio- | damn, damn, damn ;) | 01:37 |
| Tonio- | any idea allee ? | 01:37 |
| Tonio- | maybe removing the cd | 01:38 |
| allee | Tonio-: FWIW get rid of the box and just use the CD and the 2 different symbols??? | 01:38 |
| sebas | Ken Wimer from the Oxygen team proposed creating special, smaller versions. But that might not be workable. | 01:38 |
| Tonio- | just the box | 01:38 |
| allee | he | 01:38 |
| Tonio- | it'l help maiking a bigger place on the front | 01:38 |
| Tonio- | and then place the green and blue... | 01:38 |
| Tonio- | I'm trying | 01:38 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: I'm not a fan of random arrows on icons | 01:48 |
| allee | nite all | 01:49 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: random ? you mean "fetch update" icon ? | 01:53 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: no, on your latest adept_manager.svg | 01:53 |
| Riddell | icons with arrows in opposing directions just say "there's an action here but I can't describe it" | 01:53 |
| Tonio- | yep, I added the "fetch update" two greens arrows | 01:54 |
| Tonio- | is that what you don't like ? | 01:54 |
| Riddell | yes | 01:54 |
| Riddell | too much like random arrows | 01:54 |
| Tonio- | okay, I'll find something else | 01:57 |
| allee | mhmm, current icon is more like a mime-type icon. Adept is an app so we need a logo. So we are free to choose the symbol(s), right? | 01:57 |
| Tonio- | allee, Riddell: http://ns2708.ovh.net/temp/adept_updater2.svg | 01:58 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: sticky note seemed fine to me :) | 01:58 |
| Tonio- | that's better when reduced, definetly | 01:58 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: not sure it's as recognisable | 01:59 |
| Tonio- | the problem is that the icon isn't nice at all when reduced..... | 01:59 |
| Tonio- | okay let's test again ;) | 02:01 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: habe ou tried to reduce ? | 02:02 |
| allee | As a more abstract logo (idea) a blue '>' with one while wing? A lying CD with a '>' standing upright on it? | 02:03 |
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| Tonio- | whithout box in fact ? | 02:04 |
| Tonio- | yep that can help ;) | 02:04 |
| Tonio- | just a cd and the blue arrox ;) you mean this ? | 02:04 |
| Tonio- | arrow | 02:04 |
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| Tonio- | that might be nice for adept-updater but for the manager ? | 02:05 |
| allee | yes the blue left (and down arrow) should be pretty visible also in small sizes. update a blue 'v' manager a '>' | 02:06 |
| Tonio- | down for updater ? | 02:07 |
| Tonio- | I prefer "up" cause this is the software update icon | 02:08 |
| allee | yes (compare kget) | 02:08 |
| allee | Tonio-: yeah, up makes more sense | 02:08 |
| Tonio- | I'm trying | 02:08 |
| Tonio- | up for updater and right for manager | 02:08 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: how do you find the idea ? | 02:08 |
| Tm_T | hello again | 02:27 |
| Riddell | I think the adept and adept-updater icons should be very similar | 02:28 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: idea sounds fine | 02:28 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: the problem is that with just a cd and no box, it is not very clear, so many apps have a cd as logo.... | 02:31 |
| Tonio- | probably just the box with no cd sound more "clear" to the people..... | 02:31 |
| Tm_T | hmm | 02:31 |
| Tm_T | ark got box and arrow? | 02:32 |
| sebas | An update didn't fix the wonkiness, btw. | 02:35 |
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| Riddell | I like the first origional icon you posted | 02:38 |
| Riddell | and the first updater icon | 02:38 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: but they are crappy when reduced, really...... that's the problem ! | 02:45 |
| Tonio- | I'm trying to export to svg and we'll see ;) | 02:45 |
| Riddell | 16x16 and 22x22 icons always have to be touched up | 02:46 |
| Tm_T | hmm | 02:46 |
| Tm_T | always? | 02:46 |
| Tm_T | ;) | 02:46 |
| Tm_T | aye, sir | 02:47 |
| Tm_T | note to self: prepare to spend time when dist-upgrading | 02:47 |
| Tm_T | bray with me, booting to breezy(?) -> | 03:01 |
| Tm_T | pray I mean | 03:01 |
| Tm_T | anyway :p -> | 03:01 |
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| Tm_T | :p | 03:05 |
| Tm_T | well well well | 03:05 |
| Tm_T | X has some issues, it seems | 03:06 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: I try to do that package in next 8 hours, if I can't, I'll tell it ya | 03:12 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: steel there ? | 03:16 |
| Tonio- | http://ns2708.ovh.net/temp/adept_icons.tar.gz | 03:17 |
| Tonio- | I'll change a few details to increase visibility in the next days, but well, that my sound better than nothing for the moment ;) | 03:18 |
| Tm_T | hmm, no working X here | 03:32 |
| Tm_T | font issue, got it | 03:49 |
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| Tm_T | Riddell: sorry but I think I can't do that package, I messed my system :p | 10:27 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: what's messed? | 11:48 |
| Tm_T | well, first was xorg&fonts | 11:59 |
| Tm_T | now, X works, BUT every key n keyboard canges resolution | 12:00 |
| Tm_T | in X, not in console | 12:00 |
| Tm_T | :/ | 12:00 |
| Riddell | that's a bit freaky | 12:07 |
| Tm_T | aye, sir | 12:07 |
| Tm_T | breezy <3 | 12:08 |
| Tm_T | hmm, some x thingie is taking keyboard? | 12:14 |
| Tm_T | err, great | 12:15 |
| Tm_T | gdm doesn't give me option to get back console =) | 12:15 |
| Tm_T | so fucking great | 12:15 |
| Tm_T | hmm, strange | 12:34 |
| Tm_T | ubuntu-live doesn't work either, maybe knoppix :p | 12:34 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: icons are in | 12:35 |
| Riddell | thanks very much | 12:35 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: just rebuilt them | 12:59 |
| Tonio- | you might find that better... | 01:00 |
| Tonio- | damn I should have told you to wait.... | 01:00 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: http://ns2708.ovh.net/temp/adept_updater.svg | 01:03 |
| Tonio- | don't you prefer this ? | 01:03 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: looks funky | 01:05 |
| Tonio- | would you prefer this ? | 01:06 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: it would be best to have a crystal style shine on it | 01:10 |
| Riddell | so much like what you just pointed me to but with a curve on the shine | 01:11 |
| Tonio- | okay | 01:12 |
| Tonio- | problem is I don't how to make that effect ;) I'm not designer ;) | 01:12 |
| Tonio- | let me check | 01:12 |
| Riddell | look at the folder SVG icons for example | 01:16 |
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| Tonio- | yep, you would like an crystal svg icon in fact... | 01:28 |
| Tonio- | and what about the color sheme, do you prefer the actual or the old one ? | 01:29 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: new colour scheme looks nice | 01:29 |
| Tonio- | okay, but with crystal svg effect | 01:30 |
| Tonio- | I'm looking to kmail svg icon, which has about the same color sheme and crystal effect | 01:30 |
| Riddell | it doesn't have the double curve that the folder icons have | 01:31 |
| Tm_M | got idea while sitting in bus, keyb in X is misbehaving because some fi-package is f*cked maybe? | 01:31 |
| Riddell | fi package? | 01:33 |
| Tm_M | finnish | 01:33 |
| Tm_M | that's the kb layout I'm supposed to use | 01:37 |
| Tm_M | have to try that when I get back home | 01:38 |
| Tm_M | gotta go now | 01:38 |
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| Tonio- | Riddell: can you imagin I'm doing everything with a touchpad ^^ no mouse out there..... | 01:49 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: yuck | 01:50 |
| Tonio- | yep lol | 01:50 |
| Tonio- | I've understand the main effect for crystal | 01:50 |
| Tonio- | I'm doing it right now | 01:50 |
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| Tonio- | Riddell: http://ns2708.ovh.net/temp/adept_updater.svg -> added the effect you wanted ;) | 02:22 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: nice, but doesn't have the double curve you can find on the folder icons | 02:27 |
| Tonio- | double curve ? | 02:27 |
| Tonio- | you mean ? | 02:28 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/crsc-filesys-folder_cyan.svgz | 02:29 |
| Riddell | see the curved shine on the front of the folder | 02:29 |
| Riddell | that's very classicly "crystal" | 02:30 |
| Tonio- | a kind of shadow is missing you mean ? | 02:30 |
| Riddell | well the other half of the shine is the shadow | 02:31 |
| Tonio- | okay I understand.... let's go | 02:31 |
| Riddell | it might not work of course but that's what I was getting at | 02:31 |
| Tonio- | well the problem is that this curve is easy to place when you have a kind of "plate" surface, but with a cube....... | 02:32 |
| Tonio- | I make a test | 02:32 |
| Tonio- | I can put it on the cd with ease to start | 02:33 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: kmess got in the archive by the way | 02:34 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: you should check it compiled then check it downloads and runs | 02:34 |
| Tonio- | okay ;) thanks for this ! | 02:37 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: tested; it works like a charm ^^ | 02:42 |
| lamont-away | Riddell: the current? ICE report is: kaffeine_0.7-0ubuntu4 kdebindings_4:3.4.2-0ubuntu3 kdeedu_4:3.4.2-0ubuntu4 kdegraphics_4:3.4.2-0ubuntu2 kdenetwork_4:3.4.2-0ubuntu3 kdepim_4:3.4.2-0ubuntu2 kdetoys_4:3.4.2-0ubuntu1 kdeutils_4:3.4.2-0ubuntu1 knetworkconf_0.6.1-3ubuntu6 koffice_1:1.4.1-0ubuntu6 konversation_0.18-1ubuntu3 ksystemlog_0.3.2-0ubuntu1 sanekonsole_0.2-0ubuntu1 | 03:00 |
| lamont-away | although you may have fixed some of those with uploads already.... | 03:00 |
| lamont-away | and that's just main | 03:00 |
| lamont-away | (hppa of course) | 03:00 |
| Riddell | lamont-away: ok, it shouldn't be too hard to fix those same as kdelibs and kdebase | 03:01 |
| lamont-away | right | 03:01 |
| lamont-away | mind you, I don't think any of them are blocking ubuntu-desktop. :-) | 03:02 |
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| Tonio- | Riddell: http://ns2708.ovh.net/temp/adept_updater.svg -> is this the kind of double curve you would like to see ? | 03:02 |
| Tonio- | the problem is that a cube a multiple faces, and if I had double curve on each of them, it might be a bit too much I think.... | 03:02 |
| Tonio- | maybe just on the cd ??? what do you think ? | 03:03 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: that's the one | 03:05 |
| Riddell | I think on the two large sides of the box | 03:05 |
| Tonio- | yep but do you want me to add double curve on each face ? | 03:05 |
| Tonio- | okay on the front, and maybe on the cd ? | 03:05 |
| Riddell | yeah | 03:05 |
| Tonio- | three should be enough, and then i would consider my icon is quite correct ;) | 03:05 |
| Tonio- | let's go !! | 03:05 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: I can't put the double curve on the main side, because o the update logo, but let me test and show you | 03:13 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: I don't see why not | 03:14 |
| Riddell | under it probably | 03:14 |
| Tonio- | yep but that's not very visible...... I'm testing | 03:15 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: http://ns2708.ovh.net/temp/adept_updater.svg -> like this or do I invert the way they are positionned ? | 03:18 |
| Tonio- | we're about the end this time :) | 03:19 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: I think the one of the left goes the other way around, the light source doesn't change | 03:19 |
| Tonio- | yep | 03:19 |
| Tonio- | but on the right it is not supposed to receive light ^^ | 03:19 |
| Tonio- | didn't you check this ? | 03:19 |
| Riddell | ssh, nobody will know | 03:19 |
| Tonio- | LOL | 03:21 |
| Tm_T | damn | 03:33 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: http://ns2708.ovh.net/temp/adept_updater.svg -> should be the one ;) | 03:33 |
| Tonio- | Tm_T: how do you find it compared to the one yesterday ? | 03:35 |
| Tm_T | can't see | 03:36 |
| Tm_T | no X here ;) | 03:36 |
| Tonio- | arf | 03:36 |
| Tm_T | =) | 03:36 |
| Tonio- | ircing from the shell ? | 03:36 |
| Tm_T | thi is strange... | 03:36 |
| Tonio- | well read the xml and gimme your comments ;) | 03:37 |
| Tonio- | ^^ | 03:37 |
| Tm_T | haha | 03:37 |
| Tonio- | can you imagine some people are able to do this | 03:37 |
| Tm_T | Tonio-: ircing from shell is normal to me, but this problem what I have | 03:37 |
| Tonio- | read an xml file and see the sg in their head | 03:37 |
| Tm_T | doh | 03:37 |
| Tonio- | I have seen one yes | 03:38 |
| Tonio- | in three minutes he could replace the main parts of the svg, not everything of course, and not on a very complex svg, but he could :) | 03:38 |
| tvo | Riddell: to clarify, am I right in saying: the searchbar does have a "main" google favicon but the searchengine selection menu doesn't have the right icons? | 03:56 |
| tvo | that's how my working svn copy works right now.. | 03:57 |
| Riddell | tvo: other way around, the search bar lacks the icon but the menu has it | 03:58 |
| Riddell | if you select the google item in the menu it gets the icon in the search bar | 03:58 |
| Riddell | try it with a new user, or a live cd | 03:58 |
| tvo | tried with my kdedev user after erasing all caches, .kde etc. | 03:59 |
| tvo | hmm, strange can't reproduce that with my SVN copy.. I'll try adding another user then.. | 04:00 |
| Tonio- | tvo, Riddell , your comments to know if I'm building all the PNGs ? | 04:01 |
| Tonio- | http://ns2708.ovh.net/temp/adept_manager.svgz | 04:01 |
| Tonio- | http://ns2708.ovh.net/temp/adept_updater.svgz | 04:01 |
| tvo | ah got it, I guess I need to modify the code to regenerate the menu if favicons are added.. | 04:02 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: looks like a work of perfection to me | 04:02 |
| Tonio- | lol thanks ;) I must say I prefer that to yesterday's work, with no doubt | 04:02 |
| tvo | looks good | 04:03 |
| Tonio- | okay I'm maiking the pngs | 04:03 |
| Tonio- | AND it is different from kynaptic or synaptic ;) that's what I wanted | 04:04 |
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| tvo | Riddell: does it matter the icons are for the default searchengines are only shown after that page has been visited at least once, | 04:18 |
| tvo | or do we want to include copies of the favicons in the package? | 04:18 |
| Riddell | tvo: I'd say we want to inlude the icons | 04:18 |
| Riddell | isn't that how it's done at the moment in stock KDE? | 04:19 |
| tvo | only the google.png is in KDE 3.4.91 svn | 04:19 |
| Riddell | that should do then | 04:20 |
| tvo | we need to add favicons for merriam webster, wikipedia and open directory because they're in the menu too by default | 04:22 |
| tvo | anyway, I'll modify the searchbar to use google.png more often (instead of online favicon) | 04:24 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: hmm, pretty much xorg updates today in breezy =) | 04:25 |
| Tm_T | maybe they fixed now my problem | 04:25 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: http://ns2708.ovh.net/temp/adept_icons.tar.gz -> here it is, you have all icons in png (128, 64, 48, 32, 22, 16) and svg files | 04:36 |
| Tonio- | touchpad pawa !!! ^_^ | 04:36 |
| Tm_T | :/ | 04:39 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: new icon in, thanks very much | 04:42 |
| Tm_T | :) | 04:42 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: thanks | 04:44 |
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| Tonio- | Riddell: sorry for asking this but (because i would like to understand) why asking especially to \sh and not another motu ? Does \sh have a special role in rvu organisation ? | 04:58 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: anyone will do but \sh_away is more into KDE than other MOTUs | 05:00 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: but yeah, ask others too | 05:00 |
| Riddell | although dholbach is always very strict, so watch out for him :) | 05:00 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: I now have some YES from daniel ;) | 05:00 |
| Riddell | gosh, where on? | 05:01 |
| Tonio- | I got so many NO that I now know what he is checking for, especially md5sum etc... | 05:01 |
| Tonio- | on kmess for example | 05:01 |
| Tonio- | he told it was alright | 05:01 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: dh@mailempfang.de charming, take it away... :) Yes | 05:02 |
| Tonio- | that made me proud !! | 05:02 |
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| Tonio- | also got a YES on pwmanager, and he (supposedly) uploaded it | 05:03 |
| Tonio- | but I haven't been able to see it in the archive | 05:03 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: how long does it take to get a package in universe while uploaded, max 24 hours no ? | 05:03 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: NEW can be 48 hours or longer | 05:04 |
| Riddell | just whenever elmo gets around to looking it over | 05:05 |
| Tonio- | but three weeks ? | 05:05 |
| Riddell | hmm, no shouldn't be three weeks | 05:05 |
| Tonio- | http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=316 -> supposed to have been uploaded three weeks ago by daniel | 05:05 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: poke daniel then, see what he's heard | 05:05 |
| Tonio- | and not in universe | 05:05 |
| Tonio- | yp i'll do | 05:05 |
| Tonio- | I will let you work now, you should have so many things to do ;)* | 05:06 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: nice day and thanks for all ! | 05:06 |
| Riddell | always welcome | 05:06 |
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| StR | Hi all! | 05:07 |
| Tm_T | yu | 05:07 |
| Riddell | hi StR | 05:07 |
| StR | I'm now using Breezy! | 05:08 |
| Tm_T | me too | 05:08 |
| StR | with kde 3.5 | 05:08 |
| Tm_T | without X or keyboard | 05:08 |
| StR | Tm_T: lol... | 05:08 |
| Tm_T | has something to do the way xorg handling my kb now | 05:09 |
| StR | Tm_T: you shuoud use Driver "kbd" in the InputDevice in xorg.cong | 05:11 |
| Tm_T | I do | 05:12 |
| Tm_T | but everytime press any kay it just changes X resolution | 05:12 |
| Tm_T | +I | 05:12 |
| StR | weird.. | 05:12 |
| Tm_T | s/kay/key | 05:13 |
| Tm_T | no shit =) | 05:13 |
| StR | have any1 seen the usplash? | 05:14 |
| kkasina | Hi | 05:15 |
| StR | hi kkasina | 05:15 |
| Riddell | StR: I havn't made the usplash yet, I'm just about to. artwork is on KubuntuArtwork | 05:16 |
| kkasina | Hi StR | 05:16 |
| === StR is still figting with his atheros madwifi driver... | ||
| StR | I cannot believe that we are using PHP5 for breezy... | 05:17 |
| StR | where did they decide that? | 05:26 |
| Riddell | StR: any reason not to? | 05:28 |
| StR | Riddell: there is no pear package | 05:28 |
| Tm_T | ok, had enough with this for one day -> | 05:28 |
| StR | Riddell: where can I ask why did they chose to use php5? | 05:33 |
| Riddell | #ubuntu-devel | 05:33 |
| verwilst | php5 rocks ;) | 05:35 |
| verwilst | file a bug for the pear packages not to be there? | 05:36 |
| StR | wel, it does.. but many apps use pear | 05:36 |
| verwilst | phpmyadmin is locked on php4-cgi too | 05:36 |
| verwilst | but should work fine with php5-cgi | 05:37 |
| verwilst | so that's a bug too | 05:37 |
| StR | true | 05:37 |
| verwilst | or libapache2-mod-php{4,5} don't remember | 05:37 |
| verwilst | anyways, i'm using breezy in my company now to setup our next-generation shared webhosting platform :d | 05:37 |
| StR | verwilst: nice... | 05:38 |
| StR | verwilst: so..you will not be able to use user pear, right? | 05:38 |
| verwilst | guess not.. didn't think of that yet though :( | 05:39 |
| StR | I'm using ubuntu to develop webapps with postgres +php ... and a debian server to host them... | 05:39 |
| verwilst | i'm now doing the basics, implementing website/account creation and stuffs | 05:39 |
| verwilst | debian's too old again | 05:39 |
| verwilst | their kernel doesn't work on any dell server | 05:39 |
| verwilst | at least not 2.6 | 05:39 |
| StR | and I was tempted to use php5... but we need pear | 05:39 |
| verwilst | StR: file a bugreport | 05:40 |
| verwilst | it might enter, you never know | 05:40 |
| verwilst | brb, home! | 05:40 |
| StR | verwilst: how do I do that? | 05:40 |
| StR | that amarok si really buggy in 3.5.... using that xine engine... | 06:02 |
| StR | I don't understand why it cannot use the arts engine | 06:03 |
| kkasina | brb | 06:06 |
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| Tm_T | :'( | 07:17 |
| StR | why r u crying Tm_T ? | 07:20 |
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| Tm_T | StR: my xorg & kb :/ | 07:30 |
| Tm_T | they are allianced against me! | 07:30 |
| StR | lol.... | 07:30 |
| Tm_T | stil that very same problem | 07:30 |
| StR | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?? | 07:31 |
| Tm_T | doesn't help | 07:31 |
| StR | really? | 07:31 |
| Tm_T | yup | 07:31 |
| StR | Tm_T: with breezy? | 07:31 |
| Tm_T | yup | 07:31 |
| StR | I notice that they changed the packages right now... apt-get update and dist-upgrade now? | 07:31 |
| Tm_T | hmm | 07:31 |
| Tm_T | maybe I boot it up then | 07:32 |
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| author-psi | hi guys | 07:40 |
| Tm_T | yu | 07:40 |
| author-psi | Riddell: Ping | 07:40 |
| Tm_T | author-psi: sir Riddell ;) | 07:41 |
| author-psi | okay.. | 07:41 |
| Tm_T | =) | 07:41 |
| author-psi | Master Riddell: Ping | 07:41 |
| author-psi | :P | 07:41 |
| Riddell | author-psi: no titles please | 07:41 |
| author-psi | ;) | 07:42 |
| Tm_T | haha | 07:42 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: blame aseigo | 07:42 |
| Riddell | I frequently do | 07:42 |
| author-psi | Riddell: what do you think about http://www.kubuntu.de/forum/forum.php | 07:42 |
| author-psi | design / concept e.g. | 07:42 |
| Tm_T | or should I say, mr Seigo | 07:42 |
| Riddell | author-psi: rocking | 07:43 |
| author-psi | any suggestions? | 07:43 |
| Riddell | author-psi: do I get to be an admin? | 07:44 |
| author-psi | whe will work on it but its not realy finished | 07:44 |
| author-psi | Riddell: of course | 07:44 |
| author-psi | plz register ;) | 07:44 |
| OculusAquilae | author-psi: finished not, but ready to announce :-) | 07:44 |
| OculusAquilae | or nearly readey | 07:44 |
| author-psi | yes | 07:45 |
| author-psi | we hope to announce this day | 07:45 |
| author-psi | (GMT +001) | 07:45 |
| author-psi | Riddel you need help to this german registration? | 07:45 |
| author-psi | (http://www.kubuntu.de/forum/forum.php?req=register) | 07:46 |
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| author-psi | Riddel: now you are an admin | 07:47 |
| === Riddell feels the power | ||
| author-psi | nice forum :) | 07:48 |
| author-psi | veeery fast | 07:48 |
| author-psi | with jabber connection if a new post there | 07:48 |
| OculusAquilae | author-psi: its a very fast server :-) | 07:48 |
| author-psi | OculusAquilae: too :) | 07:48 |
| Tm_T | StR: no fixes to my problem | 07:49 |
| Tm_T | somehow X doesn't handle kb properly | 07:49 |
| Tm_T | now I shutted X, there's "Error from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server" | 07:50 |
| Tm_T | etc | 07:50 |
| author-psi | Riddell: and what about antother things.. Design e.g.? | 07:51 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: sir, your power is messing your head | 07:52 |
| Tm_T | ;--P | 07:52 |
| Riddell | author-psi: much nicer than kubuntuforums.net :) | 07:52 |
| author-psi | Riddel and no kommerical and advertisements :) | 07:53 |
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| Riddell | author-psi: is it on amu's server? | 07:54 |
| author-psi | Riddell: for next time.. | 07:54 |
| author-psi | yes | 07:54 |
| author-psi | Riddell: thank you realy much for your statment and now i want not nerves you anymore :) | 07:55 |
| StR | Tm_T: ls /etc/X11/xkb/ -l | grep compiled | 07:55 |
| Riddell | author-psi: give me a poke when you want it announced on kubuntu.org | 07:56 |
| author-psi | Riddell: at this moment we talk over it.. in a few minits i give you the answer | 07:57 |
| StR | Tm_T: what does that give you? | 07:58 |
| author-psi | Riddell: ist okay.. announce time :) | 07:59 |
| \sh | what's on amus server? | 08:05 |
| author-psi | http://www.kubuntu.de/forum/ | 08:05 |
| \sh | yep...looks better then this kubuntuforums.net | 08:05 |
| StR | are you from germany? | 08:05 |
| author-psi | yes | 08:06 |
| Tm_T | StR: trying it ... | 08:06 |
| author-psi | \sh you can allredy stay at ubntuusers ;) | 08:06 |
| \sh | author-psi: i can what? | 08:06 |
| StR | Tm_T: it shouuld be a link to /var/lib/xkb | 08:06 |
| author-psi | \sh you are from germany too? | 08:07 |
| \sh | author-psi: sure...20 mins from amus home ;) | 08:07 |
| author-psi | \sh | 08:07 |
| Tm_T | StR: there is | 08:07 |
| author-psi | \sh but you are in ubuntuusers.de forum? | 08:07 |
| \sh | author-psi: so? | 08:08 |
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| Tm_T | StR: I mean it is :p | 08:08 |
| \sh | does it mean I'm a gnome user? | 08:08 |
| author-psi | \sh no ;) | 08:08 |
| StR | Tm_T: ls /etc/X11/xkb/compat | 08:08 |
| author-psi | \sh i mean you can stay how you feel | 08:08 |
| allee | author-psi: curious: is there no multi lang software? User profile: x English, x German o Durch ... and one seen/can search both msg in both langs? | 08:08 |
| author-psi | \sh if you not use kubuntuforums you can stay at ubuntuusers | 08:08 |
| allee | author-psi: I like the design very much! | 08:09 |
| Tm_T | StR: yes? | 08:09 |
| \sh | author-psi: well...actually U only see at least 2 or 3 posts, regarding the logging issue on #ubuntu-de...there is no further action on the forums from my side | 08:09 |
| StR | Tm_T: do you have some files ther? | 08:09 |
| \sh | author-psi: I don't use the forums normally | 08:09 |
| author-psi | \sh sry.. | 08:09 |
| Tm_T | enough I think | 08:09 |
| author-psi | alle: thank you the design was hard work ;) | 08:09 |
| author-psi | but its works | 08:09 |
| author-psi | alle: i will see what i can do.. | 08:10 |
| Riddell | author-psi: it's on the front page | 08:10 |
| author-psi | Riddell: thank you allot | 08:11 |
| Riddell | author-psi: I'll do a better job of it this evening, and it can go in the release candidate announcement next week | 08:11 |
| author-psi | :) | 08:12 |
| StR | Tm_T: what whas the full msg before the ""Error from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server" | 08:14 |
| StR | Tm_T: do a startx to get the full msg? | 08:15 |
| allee | OculusAquilae: freenode want's me to register before I can send priv messages | 08:16 |
| allee | OculusAquilae: Yes I got the mail | 08:16 |
| OculusAquilae | ok thanks | 08:16 |
| allee | OculusAquilae: activation failed: Activation failed for administrative reasons. The user is either banned or already activated. | 08:16 |
| Tm_T | StR: that's what I'm using | 08:16 |
| allee | OculusAquilae: I can login nevertheless | 08:16 |
| OculusAquilae | allee: you are activated | 08:17 |
| OculusAquilae | allee: should be able to post to | 08:17 |
| allee | OculusAquilae: why then this mail? ;) | 08:17 |
| OculusAquilae | allee: maybe one of our admins, who did it manually :-) | 08:18 |
| allee | heh, the special service early user get ;) | 08:18 |
| StR | Tm_T: apt-get install xkeyboard-config | 08:18 |
| StR | Tm_T: apt-get install xkbutils | 08:18 |
| OculusAquilae | :-) | 08:18 |
| StR | Tm_T: and do a dpkg-reconfigure both | 08:19 |
| Tm_T | StR: ok | 08:19 |
| Tm_T | StR: thanks :) | 08:19 |
| StR | Tm_T: tell me if it works... yesterday I had the same problem | 08:20 |
| Tm_T | oh | 08:20 |
| Tm_T | done, startx | 08:21 |
| Tm_T | no | 08:21 |
| Tm_T | doesn't help | 08:21 |
| Tm_T | and sam errors | 08:21 |
| Tm_T | same | 08:21 |
| allee | OculusAquilae: members and search is still green brown instead of blue | 08:24 |
| OculusAquilae | allee: oh really, thanks :-) | 08:24 |
| StR | Tm_T: are you shure that xkbutils is installed? | 08:25 |
| allee | OculusAquilae: you can call me master of nitpicking ;) | 08:25 |
| OculusAquilae | :-) | 08:25 |
| StR | Tm_T: setxkbmap -model pc105 -layout us -variant intl <-- What does that return? | 08:28 |
| StR | apt-get install --reinstall xkeyboard-config | 08:28 |
| StR | apt-get install --reinstall xkbutils | 08:28 |
| StR | Tm_T: try that... and watch closely to what it says... | 08:28 |
| Tm_T | hmm | 08:29 |
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| Tm_T | no help | 08:32 |
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| verwilst | who was the guy again who said there was no pear package for ubuntu? | 08:53 |
| verwilst | there is.. we have php4-pear and php-pear | 08:54 |
| verwilst | php-pear is 5.0.5 :p | 08:54 |
| verwilst | stupid naming, but hey | 08:54 |
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