=== kyncani [n=kyncani@82.250.5.123] has joined #ubuntu-devel === HWolf [n=HiddenWo@136.34.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === racoon97 [n=racoon97@APointe-a-Pitre-102-1-8-196.w81-248.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dereks__ [n=dereks@66.9.7.66] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [12:28] night everyone [12:30] Gnight sivang === Rotund [n=joe@207-118-215-194.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === HiddenWolf [n=HiddenWo@136.130.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:42] Kamion: thanks alot. [12:43] good night everybody [12:46] sabdfl: Hello? [12:52] mjg59: just nominated you for the tech board, i hope you're still available? [12:56] mjg59: errr... stunned silence? === sedak [n=fred@82-32-125-115.cable.ubr04.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:57] no fair [12:57] <\sh> g'night folks [12:58] tradition has it that he doesn't find out until after he's been nominated and voted in [12:58] ok. shhhh... [01:01] hehe [01:03] sabdfl: Sorry, busy drinking [01:03] sabdfl: Thanks! Was that what you wanted to ask me this morning? [01:03] mjg59: yesh [01:03] eggshellent === blueyed [n=daniel@iD4CC0307.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:04] we have all the infrastructure to run a vote now. could you draft up a (short - 200 words) statement of the things you find interesting about linux and free software for me? [01:05] i'll incorporate that into your nomination, and send it to the wires [01:05] Sure - what sort of timeframe? [01:05] we'll get the vote setup in LP, and run it from TB to TB, so you have a chance to come along and answer any questions from the hostile masses [01:05] soonest would be next week, or two weeks later, to get started [01:06] did we decide who votes now sabdfl ? [01:06] tseng: yes, all devs, not just the -core [01:06] hm, cool. [01:06] or hot, depending :-) [01:06] im a big proponent of community governence :P [01:06] not that the sabdfl and the current boards havent been doing an awesome job [01:06] but not punctuation or speling [01:07] it seems :-p [01:07] indeed. === GmanZZZ is now known as Gman_ [01:07] heh. night all [01:07] gnight sabdfl :-) [01:07] sleep well [01:09] if I would buy a printer/multi-pass today, I should buy HP for stunning support in my favorite linux-distribution, right? :-) === thierry_ [n=thierry@modemcable186.65-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Keybuk remembers to turn the hob on this time === macgyver2 [n=eric@unaffiliated/macgyver2] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hunger [n=hunger@p54A63C4E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mvo goes to bed now === sabdfl [n=mark@pdpc/supporter/silver/sabdfl] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === camilotelles [n=Camilo@20132139198.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel === aigarius [n=aigarius@159.148.239.80] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Rotund [n=joe@207-118-213-36.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:01] after that apt PO fixes, how do i translate it? it's not listed in rosetta === crimsun_ [n=crimsun@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dereks_ [n=dereks@cpe-66-108-44-139.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:07] Kamion: Are you working through Malone? [02:08] segfault: pull the source, rosetta is broken [02:09] and then just send it to mvo? [02:10] segfault: or upload to rosetta, or both [02:10] segfault: note that you can find the package or manually forge the url for the package and then upload the translation === zyga still does not understand why rosetta does not display all packages === pusakat [i=proxy@203.167.88.65] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] [02:11] i tried that, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/breezy/+sources/apt/+pots/apt/pt_BR/+translate [02:13] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/breezy/+sources/apt/+translations === tambaqui [n=patricia@200-230-128-226-mns.cpe.vivax.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:13] nag people in #launchpad about it [02:13] it should work === lllmanulll [n=lllmanul@dan75-4-82-239-58-38.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:20] Hey guys, just wanted to say that a reporter from cnet.com asked me a few questions about developping for Ubuntu in an email : I just sent my answer, in which I'm writing a lot of very nice things :) [02:20] zyga: doing that :) [02:21] It has been (and still is) really a pleasure to work for Ubuntu :) === calc [n=ccheney@ip70-185-4-246.ma.dl.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === gabaug [n=gabe@209-254-131-118.ip.mcleodusa.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sebest|dodo is now known as sebest_ [02:44] mjg59: ping [02:52] jdub: Hi [02:53] Were one of you two checking out the wv thing for beagle or was that dropped? === Rotund [n=joe@d23-102.rb.lax.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === henriquemaia [n=henrique@cb-217-129-172-176.netvisao.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel === TheMuso [n=luke@dsl-202-173-132-131.nsw.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:00] mjg59: should ircomm stuff work if irattach is running? [03:01] mjg59: and have you see ircomm stuff crash the machine? [03:01] also, ircomm{,-tty} is not autoloaded [03:01] and congratulations for TB nomination [03:02] Oh yeah, congrats mjg59 === lakin [n=lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:03] jdub: I haven't seen ircomm crash, no [03:03] You need to modprobe ircomm-tty (or something like that) [03:03] Then ircomm0 should "just work" [03:03] yeah, have done [03:04] nsc-ircc is the x40 ir module, right? === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-124-58.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:07] bob2: Yeah [03:07] Depending on BIOS version, you need to do PnP setup first though [03:08] with the bios update, i can now do fn-f7 for crt/lcd [03:08] however, the crt output looks horrendous when displaying on both [03:08] as if it were interlaced, and each line were moving left and right at different times === bob2 googles [03:09] pipka got her T42 today [03:10] jdub: Yeah. It's likely that in that mode it's running them off the same pipe, which isn't really spec compliant [03:10] mm nice, T42 [03:10] It's *probably* an X bug of some description, but I'm not sure [03:10] oh, hmm, XP SP2 comes with bluetooth support?! [03:10] Yeah [03:11] Is elmo the only one that can drop packages from the archive? [03:11] plugging in a bluetooth usb thingy and having it work out of the box was... unexpected :-) [03:12] jdub: what kind? [03:12] belkin [03:12] rock on === bddebian is apparently talking to himself again [03:14] bddebian: dude, it's a removal - chill out, it's not going to do any harm if it waits a couple of days [03:15] elmo: I was asking because I have a question about another one, not if you had already done them === jdub boggles at the 'receive a file' mess === bddebian loves getting chastised for trying to fucking help clean up Universe [03:18] how much do we trust ext2resize? === ogra has a MSI dongle, worked out of the box too :) [03:19] do we ? [03:19] or parted's resizing foo? [03:20] gparted should wor fine [03:21] (dont try it with cf cards though) === stub [n=stub@203-214-4-72.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:21] ogra: oh? why not? [03:21] it broke mine when we tested it at UDU [03:22] i had to repartition... [03:23] hmm, can't reproduce then :-P [03:23] or wait. it did some time indeed. [03:23] fine, so it was fixed inetween [03:23] but works last time I tried :-) [03:25] I could always test it... ;-) === jdub resizes /home [03:26] Rotund: sup [03:27] e2fsck -fy /dev/hda3 -> ahem. [03:29] ogra: seems working. [03:29] great [03:29] nice to see it evolved [03:31] hmm, I could actually resize things with that program now. [03:31] nice indeed :-) === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Amaranth [i=travis@unaffiliated/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Am|NickTaken [i=travis@ACABEEB7.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:54] hey all [03:54] im having an issue with lilo and devmapper in breezy please advise [03:54] http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2600 === Rotund [n=joe@d28-117.rb.lax.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:59] guys i have my root in lvm trying to reinstall lilo [03:59] i get an error http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2600 === gabaug [n=gabe@ppp-70-225-175-2.dsl.chmpil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Am|NickTaken [i=travis@ACABFFCB.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ikuyaLoqu [n=ikuya@gnulinux.good-day.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:18] guys what can i do about this [pid 23930] ioctl(4, DM_TABLE_STATUS, 0x807d378) = -1 ENXIO (No such device or address) [04:18] dude, seriously [04:18] i think it is a bug in breezy udev [04:21] jmg: This isn't a support channel, use #ubuntu for support requests or file a bug in Bugzilla to track it properly please === kentaur [n=kent@adsl-065-006-206-159.sip.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:36] I swear my laptop disk is getting slower [04:38] 19:02:52 < jdub> BenC, mdz: so is this "my hard drive is slower" stuff [04:38] supported by any useful evidence yet? [04:38] bob2: you are not allone with that [04:39] bob2: heh. I bonnied the hell outta breezy [04:39] bob2: it got faster than hoary [04:41] hmm === jsg_ [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:52] bddebian: please set a realname in launchpad [04:52] getting mail from "bddebian" is annoying [04:53] bob2: Is that under Display Name? [04:53] I dunno [04:53] think so :) [04:54] Done [04:54] Sheesh, the things I get chastised about :-) [04:57] bob2: Let me know if that last one comes in as Barry deFreese! [04:59] #1557 looks easy if someones interested. I'm not. :-) === bddebian assigns ajmitch to 1523 ;-P === tritium [n=michael@pcp0011975002pcs.sandia01.nm.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:02] bddebian: ? [05:02] Whoops, wrong window :-) [05:02] ajmitch: It's audacity and you did the last change. ;-) === gabaug [n=gabe@ppp-70-225-171-229.dsl.chmpil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jsg_ [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jsg_ [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:24] GO GSTPLUGINS! it's YOUR BIRTHDAY [05:24] Uhm [05:25] libs/gst-plugins0.8_0.8.11-0ubuntu4: Dep-Wait by buildd-hppa+bld-3 [optional:uncompiled] [05:25] Dependencies: libswfdec0.3-dev [05:25] libs/swfdec0.3_0.3.4-3ubuntu1: Dep-Wait by buildd-hppa+bld-3 [optional:uncompiled] [05:25] Dependencies: libgstreamer-gconf0.8-dev [05:25] Heh [05:25] so I guess I get to bootstrap that one while muttering cureses [05:26] Lucky you :-) === jsg_ [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jsg_ [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lamont-away files 16507 to vent [05:36] lamont-away : Bah, you know it'll just get assigned to me, and I'll curse your name. [05:36] it was autoassigned to seb [05:37] and the bug just says "break gstreamer0.8-swfdec out into it's own package, kthxbye" [05:37] hehe [05:37] Ahh, if it doesn't have "FTBFS" anywhere in the bug, I won't get it, yay. [05:37] clearly a post-breezy bug [05:38] well, it does grumble about "circular build-depends" [05:38] Well, we're so painfully not bootstrappable from scorched earth, that I don't know if anyone even cares anymore. === lamont-away builds a swfdec-unencumbered gst-plugins0.8 to use to do the build [05:38] infinity: Were we ever? [05:38] outside of compilers, I don't think we're that bad [05:39] No, Debian never has been. [05:39] infinity: Debian certainly isn't. [05:39] None of it's all that hard to work around, but you certainly can't just type "make world" and come back in a week to see what happened. [05:40] infinity: There's a few evil spots. [05:40] (starting from a cross-compiler) [05:40] morning [05:40] Well, not counting compilers. [05:40] We still have a fair number of circular build-deps. [05:40] Or the rest of the toolchain [05:41] And, say, base. [05:41] If you get all of base, build-essential, and debhelper/debconf done manually, it gets a bit less ugly. [05:41] But gst-plugins isn't the only higher-level package that has lamont's gripe. :) [05:42] I think perl was the suckiest one to build for hurd-i386 when I hadnled our last archive event. [05:42] You know you're in trouble when suddenly you're building krb4 so that you can get openldap... =) [05:42] heh [05:42] Well, apparently arm is dumping and rebuilding all of sid for an ABI switch or some such, so maybe they'll start filing circular build-dep bugs when they see them. :) [05:43] Oh, are they doing the EABI now? [05:43] Insane. [05:43] They should've held off for working multiarch' [05:43] Given it a new arch name, and just made them parallel installs. [05:43] Just caught it in someone's blog, don't know if it's actually happening. [05:43] mips and arm each have completley new ABIs [05:43] If mips does the N64 === lamont-away looks at the gst-plugins0.8 build time, goes to bed [05:45] heh [05:45] infinity: armeb? [05:45] which, of course, should really be called 'armbe' [05:45] lamont-away: EABI, mre likely. [05:46] lamont-away: They get things like a thread register. =) [05:46] And working floating point. [05:46] ah, ok [05:46] or, perhaps armpickanendianismandstickwithit [05:46] anyway, bed [05:46] g'n lamont. [05:46] Gnight lamont [05:47] armchooseyourownendventure === bob2 pelts tomatos at sydney === bddebian wonders if gstreamer-cdio plugin is included in that build? [06:04] didn't the gnome-screensaver change get reverted? [06:08] Yes === niran [n=niran@niran.Stanford.EDU] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:29] nm needs love [06:30] Is that still not straightened out? [06:30] nm needs a sync from j^'s repo === jdub doesn't know what's holding that back [06:30] it got synced last week [06:30] oh [06:31] probably right after i checked, too === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel === crimsun [n=crimsun@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:53] er, woo, yay for being unbootable === Amaranth [i=travis@unaffiliated/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-devel === gabaug [n=gabe@209-254-131-118.ip.mcleodusa.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pietrus [n=pietro@dsl027-180-124.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:01] Is there an active initive for a nano ubuntu meta package/setup/etc for embeddedish systems? [07:01] check out the microbuntu spec [07:01] no work so far, though [07:02] k [07:02] I've got me a project at the office which calls for something similar, guess I'll just hack it together myself. [07:03] surely just using emdebian would be simpler? [07:03] I like the dev pace of Ubuntu a bit better. :0 [07:04] initramfs makes things interesting [07:04] I'm just building a little nano itx fanless system to drive an office projector. People will walk in, it'll scan for their laptops in the room (bluetooth) and let them display their laptop on the projector (rdesktop/vnc/whatever) [07:04] It'll have a flash based HD. [07:04] So I want to rig something up that doesn't actually write. [07:04] And fits in 256mb [07:05] Do a server install, grab deborphan, and start removing packages until it's tiny enough for you. :) [07:05] Yeah. THat's hte plan. [07:05] I think I'm going to play with / in a weird way. Sounds fun. use a loopback device for root with a tmpfs unioned. [07:05] So it's writable, but nothing saves. [07:05] Like a livecd. [07:06] Yeah. [07:06] It was awesome. I showed my boss how fast I could put this app together, it took about 30 minutes. [07:06] gdm, autologin, launch a shell script. Shell script uses zenity to do basically everything. [07:06] Super simple. ;) === robitaille [n=robitail@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:07] zenity is rad for this stuff [07:07] Yeah. It was so easy to get a useful app up and running. [07:07] I mean, it's not "real development", but for some projects, it's perfect. [07:08] I'm not totally sure how to set it up to mount / right though. [07:08] check out casper for its bind mount dm love [07:09] that's a udeb, aye? [07:09] yeah [07:09] but you can apt-get source casper [07:09] ahh nice [07:11] I'm only doing this because from what I understand, it's not good to write flash disks a lot. [07:11] (and it sounds cool) === pietrus [n=pietro@dsl027-180-124.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:12] most of them have sane wear-leveling, but better to be safe [07:12] hope the sleep support works right on this box I'm setting up. [07:17] hmm. initramfs is pretty simple [07:17] built in support for rw/unionfsing the root drive would be pretty rad. ;) === rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:19] jbailey, ? :) === Gman_ is now known as GmanAFK === tritium [n=michael@pcp0011975002pcs.sandia01.nm.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === stub [n=stub@203-214-4-72.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === HWolf [n=HiddenWo@136.130.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:38] interesting, 2,6,12-9 doesn't boot on my desktop anymore [07:39] bob2: how does it fail? [07:40] hangs at "enabling additional executable formats" [07:41] which seems to be a coincidence, since it used to hang while enabling acpi === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:00] jdub, should g-a-i be in applications and in system--> admin? === pitti [n=pitti@195.227.105.180] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:17] A lovely good morning to everybody! [08:18] 'morning to you. :) === fred_ [n=fred@82-32-125-115.cable.ubr04.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:19] uhm [08:19] replacing libsane.usermap shows an empty diff - wtf is it prompting me ? [08:21] probably isn't ignoring trivial whitespace? [08:21] not sure [08:21] but it didn't even have a hunk marker [08:21] and I'd not touched that file [08:21] yeah, I noted that, too but just pressed 'y' [08:25] Did the file move between packages, or something? === dcraven_ [n=dcraven@CPE000f3d5d5cd1-CM014340007726.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zyga [n=zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === JaneW [n=JaneW@wbs-146-181-185.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:41] morning JaneW [08:43] hi ajmitch === daniels [n=daniels@amnesiac.heapspace.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dholbach [i=foobar@i577B1901.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:57] bon jour! [08:59] morning dholbach :) === spayne [n=spayne@i-195-137-120-148.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:00] Hey dholbach [09:01] pitti: morgen martin! :) === jammcq [n=jam@pcp09011044pcs.watrfd01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === marilize [n=marilize@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel === chmj [n=chmj@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pusakat [n=xenos@203.167.88.7] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:23] pitti: Morning Martin [09:23] dholbach, others :) === carstenh [n=carstenh@p54A600AB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lorenzod [n=lorenzod@80.87.77.58] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:25] Hi sivang === pvanhoof [n=pvanhoof@d5152D086.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-7-12.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jsg_ [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:39] morning :) === pusakat [n=xenos@203.167.88.7] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] [09:39] pitti: I discussed some bits of the cupsd bug last night with Keybuk [09:40] Hi zyga [09:40] sivang: ah, any progress? [09:40] hey zyga [09:40] pitti: not really :-/ Keybuk told me that from what he discovered, there is no reasonable way to do a reload without elevating back to root [09:41] pitti: Currently, cupsd installs sigterm instead of sighup when executed as a user [09:41] pitti: so, changes ought to be intrusive IMHO in order to workaround that [09:41] sivang: humm, merely redetecting printers should not require root [09:42] sivang: user "cupsys" is in group "lp" which can happily access all USB, parallel, and serial printers [09:45] question who handles mirrors for ubuntu apt repos? [09:45] cause a group of students here (including me) wanted to ask our uni to add ubuntu repos as a mirror [09:46] poningru, there is a mailinglist: http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mirrors [09:47] pitti: so assuming I modify it to install a SIGHUP instead of SIGTERM when -HUP'd , I need to write a custom handler that just calls the printer detection code again, is that what you meant? [09:47] ic thanks [09:47] sivang: right [09:47] btw my uni already handles bunch of stuff for other distros [09:47] pitti: (first part of the sentence refers to when executed as undeprivileged user) [09:47] ftp.cise.ufl.edu if anyone is interested [09:47] pitti: ok, back to the drawing board :) [09:47] sivang: yes, if you run cups as root, the current behaviour should stay === dcraven [n=dcraven@CPE000f3d5d5cd1-CM014340007726.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:50] infinity: do you know more about the recently restarted test-rebuild (and where the old logs are)? === dholbach cries a fair bit === mvo [n=egon@ip181.135.1511I-CUD12K-01.ish.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:52] hi mvo [09:52] morning mvo [09:53] hello mvo [09:53] dholbach : Old logs are where they always are. [09:53] dholbach : http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/Test/ [09:54] infinity: ok, i was talking about the breezy-autotest.failed.$arch thingies [09:54] Ahh, no luck there. There isn't an archive of the old wanna-build states, afaik. === otep [n=paltok@AP-203.167.31.158.sysads.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:54] fuck [09:54] hello everyone :) === kobold [n=kobold@debian/developer/kobold] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dand [n=dand@gw.datagroup.ro] has joined #ubuntu-devel === spayne [n=spayne@i-195-137-120-148.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:00] robitaille: question do other places mirror the repos? or is it just the install isos? [10:00] hi mvo [10:00] anybody here, who wants/can test eclipse on powerpc? (pitti ?) [10:01] poningru, I have no idea. I just knew there was a mailing list :) [10:01] hehe thanks guess I will subscribe and ask there === poningru wishes there was a web interface for sending mail to lists in mailman [10:02] poningru, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive has an email address at the end === crb [n=crb@hermitage.hs.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:09] ogra/mdz: awake? [10:09] dholbach has asked me to bug you regarding being able to edit bugs for triage in #ubuntu-desktop. [10:09] hah [10:09] crb: your mail adress is: craig@dubculture.co.nz? [10:09] It is [10:09] crb: then your changes to the bug were accepted [10:09] yes, just not the URL field. [10:10] oh i see [10:10] hope ogra will be soon awake so he can take care of it - until then i add it, ok? [10:10] sure, no trouble [10:11] crb: thought I recognised the nick [10:11] ajmitch: hi [10:11] hello [10:11] hi mvo === mvo waves to sivang [10:12] crb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs [10:12] crb: have you read that? [10:13] I have === Goonie [n=Goonie@e181031014.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:13] crb: any questions about it? [10:13] np [10:13] no [10:13] crb: what is your bugzilla login? [10:14] wow, you need special permission to fiddle bugs? [10:14] bob2: in bugzilla, yes [10:14] craig@dubculture.co.nz === bob2 pines for the fjords of debbugs [10:15] crb: you have editbugs now [10:15] ping segfault [10:15] thanks === seb128 [n=seb128@ANancy-151-1-14-68.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:19] goooood morning, seb! [10:19] hi seb128 === pietrus [n=pietro@dsl027-180-124.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:20] hey dholbach ajmitch === pitti_ [n=pitti@195.227.105.180] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:20] hey seb128 [10:20] hey mvo pitti [10:23] Hi seb128 [10:23] doko: argh, another disk and mem hog? :-) [10:24] pitti: I don't know, who to ask else ... [10:24] doko: *sigh* toss it over :-) [10:26] pitti: deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~doko/eclipse-powerpc/ ./ [10:28] pitti: maybe check first without the three *-gcj packages (interpreted mode), then with the -gcj packages [10:28] doko: what happened to openoffice.org2-l10n-{bs,lt}? they just disappeared [10:30] seb128: is someone from the frensh i18n team working on updating the apt translation? I want to do a upload soon (to fix ubuntu 15603), would be nice if that could be included === Elleo [n=Elleo@pjmvlp1mts4.pjmv.aber.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:31] mvo: there was at 100% yesterday [10:31] mvo: rosetta already get your changes from yesterday? [10:31] I'll update the few new ones [10:32] pitti: see the changelog, disabled. I'll look at them again for the next upload [10:32] seb128: I can't find it in rosetta :/ [10:32] doko: so shall I throw them out of language-support or keep them? l-s-{bs,lt} are uninstallable because of that [10:34] mvo: ups, I've apt-get source it indead [10:34] mvo: that's because you don't ship any .pot with the package ... any reason for that? [10:36] seb128: I have po/apt-all.pot here [10:36] pitti: I'm trying to have an upload on Friday, will start a test build today in the dc [10:36] doko: ok, then I leave it for now; thanks [10:37] mvo: right, so that's a question for carlos (maybe pitti?) [10:38] mvo: carlos should be able to help you with rosetta; so apt isn't imported into Rosetta at all? [10:39] pitti: seems so, there is no translation page for it [10:40] BenC: ping [10:41] <\sh> elmo: can u have a look on the latest free realplayer package from Real? is it ok for us to upgrade the realplayer package in multiverse? [10:41] doko: which eclipse package shall I install? e-base? [10:41] doko: (I never used eclipse so far) [10:41] <\sh> elmo: regarding the license ;) [10:42] pitti: eclipse-sdk [10:43] and after that: eclipse-rcp-gcj, eclipse-platform-gcj, eclipse-jdt-gcj === carlos [n=carlos@243.Red-83-47-24.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === olemke [n=olemke@iup.physik.uni-bremen.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Simira [n=rpGirl@214.84-48-74.nextgentel.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === crb [n=crb@hermitage.hs.net.nz] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [10:57] seb128: hi [10:57] seb128: I've fixed all calendar packages, sorry I could not resist [10:58] <\sh> elmo: please sync sylpheed-claws-gtk2_1.9.14-1 from unstable (universe that is) thx [10:59] mvo: how is synaptic looking? === koke [n=koke@169.Red-217-127-113.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:00] zyga: k [11:01] jdub: around? [11:01] carlos: hi [11:01] seb128: ping me if you want all the diffs [11:01] seb128, hi [11:01] carlos: do you know why rosetta has no apt po files? [11:01] pitti: got my email? [11:01] zyga: the backpotr the i18n patch? haven't looked yet, sorry [11:02] seb128: yo [11:02] jdub: hey [11:02] mvo: if you find a moment pleas do so, I'd love to translate remaining messages [11:03] jdub: why does ubuntu-artwork install stuff to gnome-wallpaper-properties instead of gnome-background-properties ? [11:03] seb128: for some reason, it was done that way in warty - from memory, it had to do with the monthly background stuff [11:04] seb128: so symlinks were added, and now it's a bit b0rk [11:04] jdub: what prevent the monthly background to use gnome-background-properties folder? [11:04] seb128, 05:48:54 WARNING Error scanning tarball: The source package apt for breezy has more than one .pot file in source/build/po/domains/libapt-pkg3.9. Ignoring the tarball. [11:05] jdub: just trying to get why it is this way before changing stuff made on purpose [11:05] carlos: what do you need to fix that? [11:05] carlos: thanks BTW :) [11:05] seb128: i don't remember, but it doesn't matter -> fix it at will [11:05] seb128, that we get only one .pot file per directory [11:05] seb128: i'm actually doing a respin of that package tonight, so if you know how to fix it properly, please blat me a patch :) [11:05] carlos: you have to way to force the right one? [11:06] seb128, I can change by hand the tarball [11:06] but next update will fail again [11:06] jdub: zyga has been working on that, seems that he only install files to /usr/share/gnome-background-properties [11:06] mvo: why does apt has different .pot? [11:06] carlos: the interessting bit is po/apt-all.pot [11:06] that's what the current packges do [11:06] jamesh: here? === infinito [n=infinito@147.Red-83-45-139.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:07] seb128: historical reasons, the build-system is "different" than most auto-tools using programs [11:07] jdub: right, that's the -calendar which are wrongs :/ [11:09] seb128: the old ones, yeah [11:09] dholbach, you pinged ? [11:09] morning [11:10] ogra: it's all sorted out, was about editbugs privileges for crb [11:10] ah, i see, sorted [11:10] re [11:12] jdub: I have tested this on breezy [11:12] jdub: new package simply installs in the proper place and conflicts + replaces the old one [11:12] jdub: it works like a charm [11:15] "shutdown -r now" turning the box instead of restarting it ... which pacakage is to blame for that (#16340), linux? [11:16] seb128: dpkg -S shutdown ? [11:17] seb128: you also want to check if they issued the ioctl to make the machine do a hard reboot on shutdown [11:17] (it's configurable) [11:18] seb128: hmm.. i blame mjg59 :) [11:18] fabbione: the "dpkg -S shutdown" is to point sysvinit or a question for the submitter? [11:18] fabbione: how do you configure that? [11:18] seb128: it's an ioctl via /proc [11:18] mvo, seb128 Could you fix the 'apt' package? [11:18] i don't remember the details [11:19] fabbione: k, thanks [11:19]