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moparfan90i need to install the correct drivers for my nvidia GeFource FX 5200 video card can someone help me one this pleas12:00
moparfan90please help me12:00
ccooked2dchat: sorry I scared you12:00
moparfan90someone12:00
d2dchatccooke, haha its ok12:00
uojoesoty haciendo un script en bash shell i tengo ya esto12:00
uojofor i in $(cat /home/meri/Desktop/ASO/passwd | tr -s ' ' '+' | tr -s ',' '+'); do12:00
uojo12:00
uojodirectori=$(echo $i | cut -d ':' -f 6)12:00
uojoecho "directori:$directori"12:00
uojo done12:00
darkheart!tell uojo about es12:00
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Wipe-Outhey12:01
d2dchatwhat happened to my terminal???12:01
d2dchat:(12:01
uojosorry12:01
naliothuojo: no more pasting in here, please12:01
darkheartnp12:01
Wipe-Outhaha an other one12:01
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naliothuojo: what language does your computer speak?12:02
chavobinary12:02
Wipe-Outguys i need help installing gcc or at least a way to tell make where it's installed12:02
dooglusWipe-Out: "sudo apt-get install gcc"12:02
Wipe-Outi installed it but it can;t be found :s12:02
naliothWipe-Out: install "build-essential"12:02
dooglusWipe-Out: it's in /usr/bin/gcc12:02
darkheartWipe-Out Try 'which gcc'12:02
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Wipe-Outi know but when i do sudo make it can't find it12:02
naliothdooglus: advise "build-essential" there are more things required than gcc12:02
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dooglusnalioth: required for what?12:03
Wipe-Outinstalled the essentials12:03
naliothWipe-Out: install "build-essential"12:03
naliothdooglus: he's missing his automake stuff12:03
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nixiacdooglus, installed Hoary 5.04 last eve, takes only 100Mb for the Debian base, then, I added 'File server' and 'Desktop' that took it up to 1.9Gb used... including some Perl programming modules, and full KDE, and some other stuff, added in Synaptic...12:03
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dooglusnalioth: build-essential doesn't include automake anyway?12:03
ompauldoes the breezy live CD do installs?12:04
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Wipe-Outautomake?12:04
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ccookeompaul: no12:04
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ompaulpity :)12:04
naliothdooglus: i'm not a dev, but -essentials installes most everything one needs for compiling programs12:04
ccooked2dchat: I recommend you back up /home before doing an install, no matter what.12:04
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naliothdooglus: that's why it's called "build-essentials" and not "gcc"12:05
moparfan90does anyone know how to instal  nvidia drivers?12:05
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dooglusWipe-Out: automake makes configure files, which make Makefiles.  but most ubuntu packages come with configure scripts anyway12:05
ompaul!tell moparfan90 about nvidia12:05
Wipe-Outokay guys i know that the essentials need to be installed and i did gcc is installed but it can't be found what am i doing wrong?12:05
ompaulmoparfan90, look at the message from the bot - ubotu12:05
dooglusnalioth: he was trying to find gcc I think though...12:05
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Wipe-Outi'd like to do as much as possible in the terminal12:05
moparfan90ok12:05
moparfan90thanks12:05
Wipe-Outwant to get rid of my n00b state12:06
naliothWipe-Out: "which gcc" returns nothing?12:06
dooglusnixiac: thanks for that12:06
Wipe-Outit tells me it wants gcc-3.412:06
grndslmanybody wanna help me?  I've got this Vaio TR1A that I'm trying to install Ubuntu on...everything goes fine until it asks for user name and password, I enter them, then it loops back to asking for user & pass again....over and over again12:06
dooglusWipe-Out: if you need gcc-3.4, you should install gcc-3.4 - it's a different package.12:06
naliothWipe-Out: so use synaptic to install gcc-3.412:06
Wipe-Outthought it was included in the breezy badger release12:07
dooglusWipe-Out: the default gcc in breezy is 412:07
naliothWipe-Out: no, only gcc-4.012:07
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Wipe-Outwhat!? so i need to downgrade?12:07
dooglusWipe-Out: you can have both installed.  they don't conflict12:07
naliothWipe-Out: it wont downgrade12:07
terjehi, I'm having trouble getting PHP4 going on hoary. It keeps wanting to download the index.php file, rather than render it.12:07
dooglusWipe-Out: although /usr/bin/gcc will still be a symlink to 4.012:07
Wipe-Outa okay so where can i find gcc-3.412:08
khermansanyone have trouble printing in the new Breezy evince package?  I get junk text for output12:08
ccookewipe-out: synaptic12:08
dooglusWipe-Out: same place as everything else.  apt-get it12:08
naliothWipe-Out: use synaptic12:08
threadanyone else lost their synaptic touchpad after upgrading to breezy?12:08
Wipe-Outhave got no i-net connection yet with lin ux :s12:08
nixiacWipe-Out:  Been 'doin' Nix and BSD, since 1997, and am STILL a noob, cuz, I have to run them ALL!  have about 40 mochines here, I love junkers, curbside 'donations'!~ So been 'doin' Ubuntu about 24 hours.12:08
khermansthread, no12:08
henkegrndslm, are you sure that you are entering them correctly?12:08
ccookeWipe-Out: just search for 'gcc-3.4'12:08
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threadkhermans: maybe not you, but I see others on the forum in the same boat12:08
ccookethread: lost how?12:08
threadunfortuantely, nobody has a good answer for me12:09
threadit's just a regular touchpad12:09
grndslmhenke: don't think i could enter them any other way...done it many times on other computers, same distro....Vaio just loops12:09
threadno synaptic features12:09
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threadx log says (EE) Synaptics Touchpad no synaptics touchpad detected and no repeater device12:09
ccookethread: but it still works as a trackpad?12:09
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henkegrndslm, have you tried changing the password?12:09
threadI have EVDEV built into my kernel... synaptics worked before I upgraded12:09
Wipe-Outnixiac: this compiling and installing of my Wlan stuff is realy giving me a mayor crash corse :P been at it for about 3 days12:09
threadccooke: yeah.. it works...12:09
grndslmhenke: many times, short characters, no characters (not possible), long characters, etc....do the same for user name too12:10
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[orpi people12:10
ccookethread: tried installing tpconfig?12:10
ccookethread: it may give you some help12:10
Wipe-Outnixiac: i've only worked with nux for about 3 days as a matter O' fact12:10
[orpsome one help me?12:10
henkegrndslm, is this when it asks you to create a user?12:11
grndslmyup12:11
nixiacWipe-Out:  Man,LAN jsut does it automatically, it appeaars, to me!  You got on-board sis-900 chip or sumpfing?12:11
[orpi need some sevices like postfix start on boot12:11
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threadccooke: it says it can't open my ps2 port (/dev/psaux) ... what does that mean?12:11
threadccooke: the file exists...12:11
ccookethread: run it under sudo12:11
henkegrndslm, there might be some more knowledgeable people in #debian-boot. The installer people hide there.12:11
Wipe-Outnixiac: nah got a PCMCIA belkin Wlan card12:11
grndslmhenke:  thanks, i'll check it out12:11
henkegrndslm, I hope they don't mind even though it is ubuntu related12:11
threadccooke: ah... it says Found Synaptics Touchpad\nFirmware: 8.96 (multiple-byte mode).12:11
nalioth[orp: if you ask a question to the channel12:12
dooglus[orp: if you install postfix, it should start at boot by default12:12
Wipe-Outnixiac: been fighting with installing ndiswtrapper it tought me a lot12:12
henkegrndslm, they might have heard about it before.12:12
grndslmhenke:  i doubt they'll mind...thanks again for the tip12:12
[orp i need some sevices like postfix start on boot ?12:12
[orpcan you help me^?12:12
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threadccooke: tpconfig -i tells me all the good stuff... looks perfect. why isn't x failing to recognize my synaptics touchpad?12:13
ccookethread: hmm12:13
[orpi start it and wen boot it dont start12:13
ccookethread: I'm not sure.12:13
nixiacWipe-Out: OOPS, you gotta make sure you got the pcmcia loaded in the build of lyour system, when you install!  Mine asks (through over a hundred installs! on several dozens of machines), but, I have NO pcmcia cards...12:13
dooglus[orp: get sysv-rc-conf - that's good for editing what starts at boot12:13
[orpok12:13
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ccookethread: I have a similar touchpad, also not working - although I didn't configure it in hoary.12:14
B_166-ER-XWhy does when i do 'import' in the firefox manage folder... it just closes firefox :|12:14
henkegrndslm, oh, and when I think about it. Have you looked for any suspicious output in the other consoles?12:14
ccookethread: I'll see if I can get it working, and let you know12:14
B_166-ER-XManage bookmarks that is12:14
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threadccooke: cool... I'm just out of ideas here... seems like it should be working at this point12:14
ccookethread: oh, one thing - try 'grep -i synapt /var/log/Xorg.0.log'12:14
Wipe-Outnixiac: well the PCMCIA slot is installed it even sees the card but this ndiswrapper is doing my head in12:15
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threadhttp://quicken.ath.cx/syn.txt12:15
sunshinehi cc cooke do you know anytthing about sownload12:15
grndslmhenke: nope, didn't do that...tried getting into a terminal from the boot loader, but was limited to ash and basic commands12:15
Wipe-Outnixiac: also tried to install USB Wlan but thought that would be an easy way out :P12:15
ccookesunshine: sownload?12:15
ccookesunshine: no...12:15
sunshinei am tryin to download java but every12:15
ccookeah, you need java?12:16
sunshinetime the file is unknown12:16
naliothsunshine: hoary or breezy?12:16
sunshineyes12:16
JustinHHi'm back...  all xlibs are instaled but during the configuration: checking for X... no12:16
JustinHH   /checking if you want to ignore X at all... no12:16
JustinHHCan not find the X libraries.12:16
JustinHH### Make sure that X is installed on your system and try to run configure again,12:16
JustinHH### this time passing the --x-includes and --x-libraries options.12:16
B_166-ER-XWhy does when i do 'import' in the firefox manage bookmarks folder... it just closes firefox :|12:16
sunshinebreezy12:16
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ccookesunshine: apt-get install java-package12:16
naliothJustinHH: do not paste in here12:16
naliothJustinHH: read the /topic12:16
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JustinHHsoory12:16
ccookesunshine: then download the file from sun12:16
ccookesec12:16
JustinHHsorry12:16
sunshinei got java package12:16
naliothccooke: no12:16
naliothsunshine: hoary or breezy12:16
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Wipe-Outbad boy :P12:16
naliothsunshine: are you using hoary or breezy?12:17
joetheoddHow do I tell what version of Ubuntu I'm running?12:17
ccookenalioth: no what?12:17
JustinHHnext time12:17
naliothjoetheodd: open a terminal and type lsb_release -a12:17
henkegrndslm, I meant the other virtual consoles while you are in the installer. There are a few debug consoles.12:17
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naliothccooke: i have ubuntu java debs, if sunshine will tell me which one (s)he is using12:17
ccookenalioth: sun java?12:18
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ccookewhat's the advantage of them over the ones built by java_package?12:18
naliothccooke: yes sun12:18
grndslmhenke, i know what you're referring to...I just never thought about that....I'll have to fire up the laptop one more time.12:18
sunshinebreezy12:18
naliothccooke: they were made for breezy or hoary12:18
joetheoddWhen I run apt-get dist-upgrade it doesn't download any packages, but lsb_release -a says I'm running warty.12:18
naliothsunshine: http://giannaros.org/tor/bt/12:19
ccookenalioth: I'm using the java_package ones now - they seem to integrate fine. What's the difference?12:19
Raunokanyone know of any good news readers that work with ubuntu?12:19
naliothjoetheodd: does it have "warty" or "hoary" in your /etc/apt/sources.list  ?12:19
Wipe-Outjust one more question does gcc-3.4.4-20050522-1-src.diff.gz work in ubuntu?12:19
ccookeRaunok: most of them. I use slrn, which is a text-mode one...12:19
naliothccooke: the debs install more easily for unfamiliar users12:19
ccookenalioth: but they'r just the ones java_package would make?12:20
joetheoddnalioth: warty12:20
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war-totemanyone know how to have urlview open with epiphany?12:20
Raunoki would prefer a gui based, just because im new at it, and i tried pan but i couldn't figure out how in the world to compile/configure/install it12:20
dooglusthread: I have a synaptics touchpad and I've not had to do anything at all to get it working in breezy.12:20
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sunshinei dont know how do i check12:20
naliothccooke: i'm not sure how seveas made them, but they're sun java12:20
naliothsunshine: check what?12:20
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BooZeehow do I install .deb files?12:21
dooglusthread: I've put some information here: http://s89213869.onlinehome.us/synaptics.txt - maybe it'll help you12:21
ccookenalioth: hmm. so we have potentially two *different* version of the sun java packages?12:21
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naliothBooZee: "sudo dpkg -i file.deb"12:21
B_166-ER-XWhy does when i do 'import' in the firefox manage bookmarks folder... it just closes firefox :|12:21
naliothccooke: there are no more Sun java in the repos12:21
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adrianocwhere i find a good source.list from ubuntu ?12:21
naliothccooke: there is gnu java (which sucks) and Sun java12:21
joetheoddnalioth: apt-get install java_package is Sun Java?12:22
naliothccooke: you can jump through hoops (some insurmountable for new to *nix users) and get the bin from sun, or you can use the debs12:22
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ccookenalioth: okay. are your packages going to get into main, restricted, universe or multiverse?12:22
nalioth!tell adrianoc about sources12:22
naliothjoetheodd: there is no sun in the repos12:22
Hikaru79Hello, Seveas? May I PM you? (again? *blush*)12:22
naliothccooke: the pkgs i have links to are illegal12:22
naliothccooke: but they are easy to install12:22
ccookenalioth: Right. Then that's not a good thing to do.12:23
joetheoddnalioth: How can I install Sun Java?12:23
adrianocyes? my source.list is empty12:23
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SeveasHikaru79, no, I'm in a meeting now12:23
sunshinenever mind12:23
obontuhello, i'm looking for p2p apps for linux, non emule or bt12:23
dooglusobontu: nicotine?12:23
obontugnutella and such12:23
naliothjoetheodd: hoary or breezy?12:23
obontunicotine?12:23
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obontuwhat's that?12:23
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dooglusobontu: it's a soulseek clone12:23
joetheoddobontu: limewire12:23
Hikaru79Ah, sorry! :(12:23
obontui installed limewire12:23
obontubut it won't work12:23
obontui tried to install java12:23
joetheoddnalioth: warty, but hoary, because I'm upgrading12:23
ccookenalioth: Illegal in that you're breaking the license redistributing, right?12:24
obontueverything went well12:24
obontubut, it won't load12:24
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naliothobontu: try gtk-gnutella12:24
BooZeei think something got scrued up in my transfer to KDE.12:24
obontuok12:24
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naliothccooke: yes. illegal in licensing12:24
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BooZeei can't log in as adminisitrator, when using the control12:24
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ccookenalioth: right. If you're breaking the license for nonstandard packages, might as well do it for standard ones.12:24
B_166-ER-XWhy does when i do 'import' in the firefox manage bookmarks folder... it just closes firefox :|, or else if somebody can point me where i could find any help on this ??12:24
naliothjoetheodd: when you are done upgrading to hoary, get your java here http://www.giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/12:24
obontuwhere can i find gtk-gnutella12:24
obontu?12:24
RaunokBooZe: you mean root?12:24
hyperactivecrondobontu, limewire ;)12:25
ccookenalioth: java_package *builds* debs from the Sun java installer.12:25
obontuah found it12:25
BooZeenope, administrator12:25
obontui tried limeware12:25
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obontuwire12:25
ccookeSo, use that to build the debs (I can provide my copies)12:25
obontucouldn't can it to work12:25
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ccookeand distribute those12:25
hyperactivecrondah.12:25
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nalioth!tell obontu about synaptic12:25
ccookethat way, there is only *one* source of debs.12:25
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obontuit's ok12:25
obontufound them thanx12:25
joetheoddnalioth: When I've finished apt-get dist-upgrade for hoary, do I need to restart?12:25
ccookewhich will make support *vastly* easier.12:25
BooZeefirst, it asked for my password, and after thinking a bit, jumped me to another page.12:25
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naliothccooke: ok. it does. i agree. but for new users who dont have a clue about building anything, the seveas-made one is easier12:26
naliothjoetheodd: yes, b/c you'll have installed a new kernel12:26
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ccookenalioth: no, it isn't.12:26
sunshineccooke that a god thing this is why my friend put ubuntu on my computer12:26
sunshineit harder to break12:26
ccookesunshine: *grin*12:26
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evianhow do I edit my "Places" menu at the top of the screen? I want to add a folder.12:27
sunshineI broke window xp three times12:27
BooZeewhere do I choose what X will be the default session?12:27
dooglusB_166-ER-X: you could try looking in the mozilla bugzilla12:27
ccookenalioth: java_package builds *one* deb file.12:27
ccookenalioth: distribute that.12:27
joetheoddnalioth: and how do you install a .deb?12:27
naliothccooke: ask seveas when he returns why he made them if using the bin is easier12:27
joetheodd*makes sure he writes this down*12:27
B_166-ER-Xdooglus ,i've been browsing all over...i dont see anything about this bug :|12:27
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dooglusB_166-ER-X: what version?  and exactly how can I reproduce it?12:27
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naliothjoetheodd: open a terminal where the deb is, and type "sudo dpkg -i file.deb"12:28
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ccookenalioth: where's your download again, anyway?12:28
ccookenalioth: it may be he made them using the package *anyway*12:28
naliothccooke: for which? hoary or breezy?12:28
ccookenalioth: and I'm just getting the wrong idea12:28
threaddooglus: no... that doesn't appear to help at all.. that's what I've got in xorg.conf, and it still insists that I don't have a synaptics mouse12:28
ccookenalioth: try breezy.12:28
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joetheoddThanks nalioth, you're a great help. =)12:29
dooglusthread: hmmm.  sorry then.12:29
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naliothccooke: http://giannaros.org/tor/bt/12:29
naliothjoetheodd: np ;)12:29
dooglusthread: because I've never had a problem with, I've not learnt anything about it...12:29
threaddooglus: thanks for tryin, tho :)12:29
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threaddooglus: yea it has worked fine for me in the past, too12:29
B_166-ER-Xdooglus ,  Hoary , firefox 1.0.7  ; i just go to manage folders, and click on 'Import' then Fx close12:29
dooglusB_166-ER-X: I'll try.12:29
ccookenalioth: yep, those look like the ones I have. Do forgive me :-)12:29
threaddooglus: what version of xorg-driver-synaptics?12:29
ccookenalioth: I got completely the wrong impression12:30
threaddooglus: dpkg-query -l |grep synaptics12:30
typois it a known bug that nautilus can't open volumes because it tries to mount them when they're already mounted? All my external usb disks do this as well as CD's12:30
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dooglusxorg-driver-synaptics: Installed: 0.14.3+revertedto+0.13.6-0ubuntu312:30
threadsame version I got12:30
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sunshinewhy is bit torrent so slow12:30
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sunshineit suppose to be fast12:30
drbombay43I am having a problem adding the cd as a repositorie, can some one please help, or tell me the best way to upgrade to breezy?12:31
ccookesunshine: not enough people to download from. Or you're behind a firewall and not uploading much.12:31
dooglussunshine: usually it's because your incoming ports are blocked12:31
BooZeehow do I remove kubuntu?12:31
naliothdrbombay43: read the /topic12:31
RMeist!st12:31
ubotuRMeist: Did you get hit by a windmill?12:31
RMeist:)12:31
dooglussunshine: if people can't connect to you, and you can't connect to them, it limits transfer speed.12:31
Raunokpeace in the middle east12:31
RMeistSeveas: are u dutch?12:31
hyperactivecrond!remove kubuntu12:31
ubotuhyperactivecrond: Are you smoking crack?12:31
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BooZee!remove kubuntu12:31
dooglussunshine: you end up relying on people who have their ports opened, which isn't all of them12:31
jsubl2!remove kubuntu-desktop12:32
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, jsubl212:32
dooglusii  xorg-driver-synaptics                 0.14.3+revertedto+0.13.6-0ubuntu3    Synaptics TouchPad driver for X.Org server12:32
adrianocplease, i do make run synaptic, he talk, "password root incorret", but not possible this.12:32
BooZee!remove kubuntu12:32
ubotuBooZee: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!12:32
sunshinehow do i let everyone in, is it safe to let everyone in12:32
drbombay43I did, edit repos, but when I chose add I do not get the cd as a choice12:32
B_166-ER-Xtheres a lot of bug related to my problem listed o n bugzilla, but since i dont have any more details on it..its hard to point out12:32
soundrayHi, need help with an OpenSSH problem please...12:32
sunshineor more people lin12:32
BooZeehow do I remove kubuntu?12:32
RMeistsoundray: tell.12:32
darkheartBooZee 'sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop'12:33
threadhey.... maybe it's this new kernel that got installed12:33
nalioth!tell adrianoc about root12:33
crimsunBooZee, use aptitude to remove kubuntu-desktop12:33
soundrayKeys get swallowed when I type remotely12:33
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chavoBooZee, turn your computer upside down and shake it real hard.12:33
naliothcrimsun: that only removes the metapackage12:33
naliothBooZee: remove kdebase12:33
RMeistsoundray: can you elaborate?12:33
BooZeejust kubuntu-desktop? it will remove all the kubuntu?12:33
dooglusB_166-ER-X: I can't get firefox 1.0.7 to work at all now.  I've been using 1.50 for a week or so.  maybe my profile won't work with 1.0.7 any more.  looks like the bug is fixed in 1.50 anyway, so you could try that.12:33
naliothBooZee: if you use synaptic you can check the boxes of the kde stuff you dont want12:33
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crimsunnalioth, aptitude isn't smart enough to pull down the depends?12:33
soundrayRMeist: As I type, the NumLock LED comes on shortly12:34
naliothBooZee: be careful you dont break your box12:34
BooZeei want to completly remove KDE from my comp12:34
naliothcrimsun: not with metapkg removal12:34
soundrayWhile it's on, it seems to turn keys into control sequences12:34
crimsunnalioth, k12:34
B_166-ER-Xdooglus, ok... but i reinstalled it like today, is 1.50 in the universe sources ??12:34
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RMeistsoundray: connected to a 'fresh'  shell or to a screen perhaps?12:34
ccookethread: Okay. I've verified that the synaptics driver is *loaded* on mine.12:35
dooglusB_166-ER-X: 1.50 isn't, no.  it's only a beta, available from mozilla.org12:35
B_166-ER-Xhm12:35
soundrayRMeist: Tried all of these, same effect.12:35
B_166-ER-Xok12:35
dooglusB_166-ER-X: I made a new profile for 1.0.7 and can't reproduce your bug.  try a new profile yourself - firefox -p - does that fix it?12:35
B_166-ER-Xaccording to synaptic, 1.0.7 is the last version12:35
sunshinedooog how do I fix this so it can go faster, i m gettin tired i need to go to bed12:35
funkyHatB_166-ER-X, it is12:35
spermitei do: cd /usr/src/linux then make menuconfig?   then get:  make: *** no rule to make taget 'menuconfig'. Stop12:35
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funkyHatB_166-ER-X, 1.50 is a beta12:36
RMeistsoundray: stand by12:36
dooglussunshine: you have a router?12:36
soundrayRMeist: Thx12:36
BooZeeit told me that it's unable to lock the administration dir, and that maybe another process is using it12:36
sunshineyes12:36
naliothBooZee: close all apt instances. there can be only one12:36
dooglussunshine: you need to tell the router to forward connections on tcp/6881 to your PC's ip address12:36
dooglus(and tcp/6882, 6883, 6884, and so on for each torrent you have running)12:37
sunshinehow do I do that12:37
B_166-ER-Xdamn.   I created a new profile, and it crashed again on import (manage bookmarks)12:37
dooglusif you only use one torrwnt at a time, 6881 is enough.12:37
B_166-ER-Xdooglus.12:37
doogluswhat kind of router?12:37
dooglusB_166-ER-X: odd.12:37
dooglusB_166-ER-X: are you actually importing anything?  Or does it crash before the "file / opera" screen?12:37
naliothB_166-ER-X: you using backports?12:37
B_166-ER-Xdooglus i just click import and it crashes..12:38
sunshinedsl 50012:38
B_166-ER-Xand altough i've heard of backports, i dont know nohing about it12:38
RMeistsoundray: what version openssh and os12:38
soundrayRMeist: Breezy, 4.112:38
soundrayRMeist: Tried downgrading to 3.9, no success.12:39
RMeistsoundray: 4.1 or 4.1p112:39
dooglusB_166-ER-X: from the 'file' menu, right?12:39
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soundrayRMeist: 4.1p112:40
B_166-ER-Xdooglus, nope, from 'bookmarks' --Manage bookmarks12:40
dooglusB_166-ER-X: what does this show?   dpkg-query -l firefox | grep firefox12:40
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RMeistsoundray: strange, assuming that it's all default config. suspecting a UTF-8 line character bug or something12:41
dooglussunshine: try this: http://www.portforward.com/dlink/dsl-500.htm12:41
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soundrayRMeist: Oops, been playing with locales...12:41
B_166-ER-Xdooglus, no packets corresponding to firefox12:41
RMeistsoundray: ah12:41
RMeistsoundray: there you go12:41
RMeistsoundray: we hope:)12:41
dooglusB_166-ER-X: ooh - mozilla-firefox then?12:42
soundrayRMeist: Thanks, I'll revert whatever Ive done and see if it helps.12:42
puffWeird...12:42
RMeistsoundray: gluck.12:42
puffOkay, fixed that rhythmbox problem that was crashing my laptop.12:42
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B_166-ER-Xdooglus, well, it opens a browser12:42
matiuHow do I downgrade mozilla-firefox please?12:42
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dooglusB_166-ER-X: I'm using "firefox" not "mozilla-firefox" - I don't know why they're both in breezy.12:43
B_166-ER-Xarr12:43
matiuI think mozilla-firefox depends on firefox!12:43
threadhow is networking supposed to work now that I'm in breezy? is it supposed to come up from the 'networking' init script still? How do I configure it with my wireless encryption key etc? does it integrate with Network-Manager or -- how does it work?12:43
funkyHatdooglus, 'firefox' is from backports12:43
funkyHati believe12:43
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dooglusfunkyHat: no, I've never used backports12:43
matiuI want to go back to mozilla-firefox 1.0.212:43
funkyHatoh right12:43
rukuarticQuick question... looking into buying a router. Anyone using a wireless router who can reccomend one?12:43
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fredforfaen!repositorys12:43
ubotufredforfaen: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?12:43
threadrukuartic: I really like my ZyXel router12:44
doogluslooks like mozilla-firefox just contains 2 files: /usr/share/doc/mozilla-firefox/copyright and /usr/share/doc/mozilla-firefox/changelog.Debian.gz12:44
fredforfaen!repos12:44
uboturumour has it, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96912:44
grndslmrukuartic: WRT54G, best in class12:44
B_166-ER-Xdooglus, altough synaptic only list mozilla firefox, and mozilla-firefox gnome support installed12:44
sunshinei've download w32codec from bittorrent but the debian binary is unknown what does that mean12:44
zone17Hi, would someone please check if firefox 1.0.7 doesn't crash at this site This site crashes firefox http://www.rapidhost.net/12:44
rukuarticlooking to do wireless... does ubuntu support a wireless PCI card?12:44
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matiuHow can I tel apt to install a specific version?12:45
puffIf anybody's curious, for some reason there was a "music player" entry in my gnome applications menu, and it would freeeze up everything when I got as far as importing the mp3s in the initial set up.12:45
matiueg. apt-get install mozilla-firefox-1.0.2-0ubuntu512:45
rukuarticzone17: works fine on 1.0.512:45
zone17Had to go trough a lot of sites at work today and about every 20 times I see a new site firefox crashes12:45
B_166-ER-Xwhat i dont understand, its my second hoary install...and the 1st time it was working right..12:45
zone17Thanks, rukuartic12:45
fredforfaenhttp://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted is funky .....12:45
bimberirukuartic: it does, check here though - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards12:45
dooglusB_166-ER-X: are you sure you don't have the 'firefox' package installed?  that's the only package which provides /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox according to apt-file search12:45
fredforfaenis there other repos that would do?12:45
puffno idea why it was there on a fresh install, but when I followed the "Restricted Formats" wiki page advice, and installed all the drivers and codecs, it doesn't freeze the system any more.12:45
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zone17Seems that its only firefox 1.0.7 from ubuntu distro which is having this problem12:45
luckyhi, xchat, firefox and gaim all segmentation fault on startup12:45
rukuarticbimberi: Wow... didn't occur to me to check there :: bows:: thank you12:46
luckyi just installed 5.4 yesterday12:46
bimberirukuartic: yw :)12:46
B_166-ER-Xdooglus, a Search for firefox only list 'mozilla-firefox' and files starting with mozilla-firefox12:46
fredforfaenanyone?12:46
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JustinHHi have got my xlibraries instaled but the configure program can not find them! where are they on my ubuntu system12:47
JustinHH?12:47
B_166-ER-Xmozilla-firefox - lightweight web browser based on Mozilla , thats what i have12:47
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B_166-ER-Xplus the gnome-support12:47
zone17people with 1.0.7 firefox, please check the site, there seems to be a serious problem with ubuntu firefox 1.0.712:47
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matiumozilla-firefox has version 1.0.2 and 1.0.7 available but firefox only has 1.0.712:47
doogluszone17: it didn't crash 1.0.7 for me.  although it does have a java applet on it - could that be the problem?12:47
Kenseywhere are all the source packages for Ubuntu?12:47
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matiuKensey: packages.ubuntu.org12:48
luckyanyone?12:48
dooglusB_166-ER-X: how about uninstalling mozilla-firefox and installing firefox.  see what happens then...12:48
funkyHatKensey, in the source repositories (enable them in /etc/apt/sources.list12:48
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B_166-ER-Xnever crashed before ; just when tryingto import bookmarks12:48
lucky:s12:48
KenseyI can't menuconfig, gconfig or xconfig a kernel :(12:48
funkyHator there ^12:48
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matiuKensey: then in the package itself, there is a link that says source12:48
zone17I don't know if it's the java, I only know a lot of people seems to experience crash, but not all12:48
Kenseyfunky: is any of that on the install CD?12:48
fredforfaenpls anyone?12:48
zone17trying to find out whats the difference12:48
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matiuKensey: download the tar.gz and the .diff and apply the diff12:48
sorush20I'm unable to load Ubuntu update12:49
naliothJustinHH: install "xlibs-static-dev" also12:49
funkyHatdon't think so12:49
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JustinHHoh my good!!!12:50
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GoRoDeKi have a problem using evolution: when adding a task, the application crashes. any known workarounds?12:50
Kenseything is I can't download anything till I can get wireless net working.  And I can't do that till I can compile a kernel without preemption enabled.  And I can't compile a kernel (realistically) till I have the ncurses source :)12:50
BooZeehow do I switch the logon screen (and actualy, the entire startup process) from kde to gnome?12:50
B_166-ER-Xdooglus ; even thought my apt-cache search shows 'firefox' at the end of the results, apt-get install said there is no such packets12:50
triggBooZee: do you have KDM or GDM installed?12:51
B_166-ER-XE: Impossible de trouver le paquet firefox12:51
luckyxlter% kicker: error while loading shared libraries: libfreetype.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory12:51
BooZeewhat is the M in the end of it?12:51
luckyon kubuntu12:51
JustinHHxlibs-static-dev doesn`t apear in synaptic12:51
zone17how do I check to see which versions of firefox are availible?12:51
JustinHH:((12:51
BooZeetrigg: what is the M in the end of it?12:51
nalioth!tell JustinHH about sources12:51
triggBooZee: Kde Display Manager or Gnome Display Manager12:52
BooZeeoh. KDM12:52
BooZeei think..12:52
B_166-ER-Xand synaptic doesnt list opera :|12:52
zone17how to get a list of versions of a program?12:52
triggBooZee: open up synaptic . . . uninstall KDM, install GDM12:52
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BooZeebut it pops a window that asks me if I want to close the kde deamon or something like that, and when I confirm, the entire X disapears12:53
BooZeeand I get a command line12:53
jjazztrigg:  Won't that kill the current instance of kdm?12:53
BooZeeyes!12:53
luckyzsh: segmentation fault  sudo apt-get upgrade12:53
BooZeethat's what happening12:53
luckywhy does it do that?12:53
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triggBooZee, jjazz: go to a console and type "sudo apt-get install gdm:"12:54
soundrayRMeist: still here?12:54
rukuarticAnyone use a Wireless PCI LinkSys Adapter?12:54
jroesis there anything you guys read daily with cool linux-related tips and stuff?12:54
BooZeewith the ":" ?12:54
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jroeslike-- enabling a cool feature or using an interesting new app12:54
triggBooZee, jjazz: then "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start"12:54
jjazztrigg:  I was just wondering if apt-get was somehow smart enough to know not to kill kdm if you were using synaptic. :P12:54
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jroesI guess slashdot but with a bunch of howtos and guides that get submitted a bunch12:54
linuxjeffjroes: www.slashdot.org, www.osnews.com, www.newsforge.com, www.freshmeat.net12:54
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triggjjazz: I don't think so.  if you use apt-get then you should probably kill kdm first12:55
jjazztrigg:  Agreed.12:55
TiagoTiagohello12:55
triggBooZee - no don't use the ":"12:55
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bimberijroes: #ubuntu can be pretty good for that sometimes :)12:55
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tyloHello12:55
tyloDoes anyone here have any experience with Wine?12:55
BooZeetrigg: it wont start it because it is not the default display manager12:56
naliothjroes: #ubuntu-offtopic also12:56
jroeslinuxjeff: those are good sites, but they are mainly news-related and don't have a lot of interesting random tips and things to check out.  for instance, it would be cool to see a guide for compiling the latest GNOME and Luminocity and stuff to get some cool Cairo effects...12:56
jroesbimberi: pretty much why I'm here :)12:56
bimberi:)12:56
triggBooZee: from a console, do this "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm"12:56
JustinHHthanks nalioth12:56
naliothjroes: have you been to gnome.org?12:56
naliothJustinHH: np, is it working?12:57
tyloI'm having a problem with setting up Wine properly, and was wondering if anyone could help me out.12:57
TiagoTiagowhen installing I get a error  1, it says something about checking for enough space on /var/log or something like that12:57
jroesnalioth: yup, I'm currently perusing live.gnome.org (the wiki)12:57
JustinHHits downloading from the repository....12:57
BooZeetrigg: invoke-rc.d: initscript gdm, action "reload" failed12:57
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JustinHHdownloading package information12:57
BooZeetrigg: but it did let me select the gdm12:57
tyloI've checked the forums already, but no one seems to be having the same problem as I.12:58
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tyloer, as me.12:58
adrianoci need a source.list please ...12:58
triggBooZee: hmm.  did you kill and restart your x-session?12:58
JustinHHnalioth, : its a bit hard for beginners like me to use ubuntu because it doesn't have many packages installed12:58
JustinHH:(12:58
nalioth!tell adrianoc about sources12:58
BooZeein the last session - yes..12:58
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JustinHHbut i hope i can manage it12:58
BooZeethan I shutdown the comp, and started it again12:58
naliothJustinHH: once you enable universe and multiverse repos, you'll have plenty to play with12:59
BooZeeit used the kdm to load12:59
adrianocthis http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto is ver bad, don't functionally12:59
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BooZeeand I chose the gnome session12:59
tyloI'm having a problem installing the "Windows Installer" portion of Wine. Can anyone help me?12:59
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tyloOr can anyone tell me how I can find out what version of Wine I am running?01:00
zone17Hi, how do I roll back to firefox 1.0.6?01:00
triggBooZee: try this from the console "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop && sudo apt-get remove kdm"01:00
zone17I know I can do apt-get install mozilla-firefox= but I don't remember version number01:00
triggBooZee: then do a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm"01:00
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TiagoTiagowhen installing I get a error  1, it says something about checking for enough space on /var/log or something like that, am I doing anything wrong?01:01
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zone17isn't there somewhere like on debian.org where it's possible to see all the different version numbers on a package?01:02
soundrayzone17: ftp://archive.ubuntu.org01:02
JustinHHnalioth, : i think it's gonna work. but i must wait 20 min until i will download some packages.. if smth doesn't work i'll let you know ;)01:02
adrianocwhy? Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-updates/universe/source/Sources.gz  403 Forbidden [IP: 82.211.81.151 80] 01:02
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soundrayzone17: sorry, ftp://archive.ubuntu.*com*/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/01:03
dooglusB_166-ER-X: have you done a "sudo apt-get update" recently?01:03
zone17soundray, thanks a lot! :-))01:03
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adrianoci install ubuntu now01:03
dooglusadrianoc: there are no updates yet, 'cos it's not released yet!01:03
sobersabrehi any breezy evolution exchange users here ?01:04
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soundrayzone17: There's no more 1.0.6 as far as I can see.01:04
adrianocbut my sources.list is empty01:04
zone17soundray, strange not even 1.0.5 is listed. I need to roll back to 1.0.6 or 1.0.501:05
naliothadrianoc: you have a list, or your apt wouldnt work01:05
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JustinHHone single question. what can i do to hear mp3-files in ubuntu? i heard that i shoul get a plugin or smth? can i get it also with synaptic?01:05
soundrayzone17: What's the problem?01:05
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kadigiboxhello.  I just did a server install.  What is the password for root?  I was never promted to enter password for root01:05
RMeistsoundray: yeah01:06
LightVisionhello01:06
zone17soundray, 1.0.7 keeps crashing a pages with java01:06
bimberiubotu tell JustinHH about mp301:06
nalioth!tell JustinHH about restricted01:06
adrianoci want a sources.list any01:06
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funkyHatkadigibox, there is no root password01:06
nalioth!tell kadigibox about root01:06
funkyHatkadigibox, use sudo, with your password01:06
JustinHHthx01:06
LightVisionis it possible to always upgrade Firefox the latest versions if using ubuntu?01:06
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zone17soundray, I have been asking people all day and a lot is experiencing the same problem, but not all.01:06
naliothadrianoc: /msg ubotu sources01:06
soundrayRMeist: got it working again, had to uninstall tleds.01:06
kadigiboxO.o01:06
kadigiboxthats messed up!01:06
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sobersabreI have a problem setting up exchange account in evolution.01:06
luckyok.  After a reboot01:07
luckyall the problems goe away01:07
sobersabreanybody can help ?01:07
luckyit crashed on me this way last night too.01:07
sobersabreit is breezy in here...01:07
RMeistsoundray: tleds:) ok.01:07
soundrayzone17: Can you point me to a page where you get a crash?01:07
sobersabrelucky, what are you talking about ?01:07
LightVisiondoes Ubuntu come with Firefox?01:07
zone17soundray, yes one moment01:07
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RMeistLightVision: yes01:07
sobersabreLightVision, yes01:07
bimberiLightVision: you bet01:07
sobersabreLightVision, no01:08
RMeist:)01:08
soundrayRMeist: it shows network traffic by blinking the keyboard leds...01:08
sobersabremuhaha... gotcha.01:08
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bimberiLightVision: confused? :)01:08
zone17soundray, http://www.rapidhost.net/01:08
LightVisionok but how does a person UPGRADE firefox everytime a new version Firefox comes out?01:08
luckysobersabre:  Ubuntu crashed.  Every single application i started segfaulted and then the kernel panicked.  Now after a reboot it works fine.  This is starting to have the stability of Windows 98.01:08
SeveasLightVision, apt-get upgrade01:08
sobersabrelucky, which ubuntu version ?01:08
bimberiLightVision: the ubuntu update process will do that for you01:08
TiagoTiagocan  I use the livecd to make the partitioning an formating for the install?01:08
kadigiboxis there a way to install a different window manager then Gnome?01:08
LightVisionSeveas:  what version of firefox are you using now?01:08
Seveasfirefox upgrade are put into ubuntu on a matter of days to a week01:09
luckysobersabre: uh, the latest, hoary hedgehog01:09
RMeistsoundray: yes, I know it, did you run the 1.04?01:09
Seveas1.0.701:09
sobersabrelucky, i don't understand: you installed the system, after the initial reboot it started crashing ?01:09
j-linuxI'm trying to install flashplayer for Firefox using sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla.  Am I doing something wrong?01:09
LightVisionim using Debian Sarge atm, but Sarge cannot upgrade to latest version for many reasons, too much to say!  But IF i changed to ubuntu, is it possible to always upgrade to LATEST firefox as soon as new version comes out?01:09
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waldekadigibox, what do you prefer?01:09
luckysobersabre: yes.01:09
luckyits done it twice in as many days, sobersabre01:10
sobersabrelucky, i'm not your doctor, i don't have your desease history :)01:10
soundrayRMeist: tleds_1.05beta1001:10
Seveasfirefox upgrade are put into ubuntu on a matter of days to a week <---01:10
LightVisionSeveas:  what version of firefox are you using now?01:10
Seveasso not the moment it comes out, but pretty soon after that01:10
omp:P01:10
Seveas1.0.7 <---01:10
RMeistsoundray: well allright, oh well, just have to set up you switch in sight then:P01:10
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bimberiSeveas: deja vu?01:10
sobersabrelucky, and had windows also crashed with this machine ?01:10
Seveasbimberi, ;)01:10
omplucky: hello01:10
luckysobersabre: not sure, its a new machine.01:10
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thierry_with what could I modify a .pdf file?01:10
dooglusLightVision: I'm running 1.50beta1 at the moment in ubuntu.  It's not an official ubuntu package, I got it from mozilla.org, but I can run it fine in ubuntu.01:10
luckysobersabre: i haven't used windows in years anyway, but it ran freebsd stably for several days.01:10
soundrayRMeist: I'm using the Gnome System Monitor now.01:10
kadigiboxeather wmaker or xfce01:11
thierry_like cutting a part of it to make it printable01:11
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sobersabrelucky, there are 3 reasons for crashing: user, software and hardware.01:11
triggkadigibox: "sudo apt-get install xfce"01:11
bimberithierry_: iirc the GIMP will open PDFs01:11
sobersabrelet's eliminate user: did you try anything nasty like playing with kernel source and compiling it  ?01:11
Seveassobersabre, there are 401:11
soundrayzone17: I've no problem with that page, what version of the Java plugin do you have?01:11
luckysobersabre: no, its a pretty much fresh install.01:11
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zone17soundray, no java installed01:11
Seveasuser, user again, hardware, software :)01:11
LightVisionwhat version of Firefox is the latest available on the ubuntu servers?  1.0.7?01:12
j-linuxI'm having trouble installing Flash player.  Is sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla incorrect?01:12
sobersabreSeveas, let's give this one a chance01:12
triggkadigibox: you can search for other packages with "apt-cache search packagename"01:12
j-linuxLightVision: yes01:12
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thierry_j-linux : go check ubuntu guide01:12
waldekadigibox, just use the search-function in synaptic and type xfce into. You will get a selection of  xfce-packages with 'xfce' in the package name. Select xfce4 for installation and you will get the most important dependencies. For tuning you have to search a little bit more.01:12
sobersabrelucky, now, how hs it happen, what were you doing when the machine crashed ?01:12
luckysobersabre: talking on xchat01:12
SeveasLightVision, what did I say 2 times already?01:12
j-linuxthierry: I did.  That's where I got this command from :S01:12
sobersabres/hs/has/01:12
luckysobersabre: under KDE01:12
triggj-linux: "apt-cache search flashplayer" and you should get a list of the packagenames01:12
j-linuxtrigg: ok, I'll try that.  Thanks.01:13
bimberij-linux: yes, if you have multiverse enabled01:13
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sobersabrewhat graphic hardware do you have ?01:13
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luckysobersabre: xchat then quit, i restarted it, it didn't come up, so i starte it on a command line, and it says that it was segfaulting, same with firefox, mplayer, gaim and sudo01:13
TimeWaveCan anyone tell me why ubuntu wouldnt recoginize the DHCO when I have multiple computers using the same protocol?01:13
soundrayzone17: Try the Adblock extension and block http://*.class, how about it?01:13
triggj-linux: no problem :)01:13
j-linuxbimberi: ah... multiverse... I have universe, but I disabled multi recently01:13
TimeWaveDHCP, even01:13
LightVisionwhat are some reasons why I should move from Debian Sarge to Ubuntu please?  Im considering the move.01:13
luckyoh hold on,  the owner of this machine says its overclocked. :|01:13
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waldeTimeWave, is your ethernetdevice detected by the kernel?01:14
bimberiLightVision: the fabulous people in its support channel :P01:14
TimeWaveyes01:14
sobersabrehaha01:14
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waldewhat does dhclient eth0 tell you01:14
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waldeTimeWave, what does dhclient eth0 tell you01:14
zone17soundray, I just found out, java is installed just not as a ubuntu package, but directly from sun01:14
sobersabrelucky, when you overclock... you should at least cooooooool everything very seriously.01:15
SeveasLightVision, if you are unhappy with sarge, move01:15
LightVisionbimberi:  well, I hope not everyone is like Seveas!  he has not been very nice and helpful at all!  are people in ubuntu community nicer than him?01:15
Seveasif you are happy with sarge, don't move :)01:15
soundrayzone17: Version?01:15
SeveasLightVision, right01:15
LightVisionthe reason I ask is because Im considering the move to Ubuntu01:15
luckysobersabre: i just got it, i didn't know it was overclocked, i personally never overclock.01:15
zone17soundray, java version "1.4.2-02"01:15
sobersabrelucky, you're lucky if your cpu is ok...01:15
luckysorry for that sobersabre, i'll see if that irons out my stability issues.01:15
SeveasLightVision, you not reading my answers is not the same as me being unfriendly01:15
TimeWaveIt is still in setup. It says it cant atuconfigure the network due to lack of DHCP protocol01:15
foampeacehow do i make the mythtv use connect to the xserver?01:15
triggLightVision: try it, if you like it, switch, if not, go back . . . not rocket science01:15
LightVisionI orderd my ubuntu CD01:15
soundrayLightVision: You could go to 1.5.0 - works for me.01:16
kadigiboxhmmm cannot seem to get my DSL modem to detect.  I plug in the USB and nothing shows up on the screen that anything was connected01:16
LightVisiontrigg:  i ordered the ubuntu CD and now waiting for them to arrive01:16
waldeTimeWave, do you mean the Installation-Setup?01:16
soundrayzone17: You could go to 1.5.0 - works for me.01:16
bimberiLightVision: this might be worth a read - http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/01:16
sobersabrekadigibox, this is not windows....01:16
naliothkadigibox: use the ethernet from your DSL modem01:16
soundrayLightVision: sorry, wasn't meant for you.01:16
zone17soundray, from sun?01:16
LightVisionsoundray:  you are using 1.5.0 firefox on Sarge Debian?01:16
SeveasLightVision, they will not be sent before release (oct. 13) and take a few weeks to arrive01:16
kadigiboxcant01:16
Seveasdownloading may be faster01:16
YattaMaX[QUESTION]  :  how to modify the *boot procedure* of the Ubuntu Live CD ? (please reply me writing my nick in the answer or in private....thanks)01:16
LightVisionSeveas:  ok thank you01:16
YattaMaXI have to customizating the Ubuntu Live CD for a *blind* user, therefore I have to limit any question on boot (FIRST that X or GDM starting) .....carefully the screen resolution question on boot.         anyone can help me ?01:16
LightVisionSeveas:  im using modem01:16
soundrayzone17: no...01:16
kadigiboxMy ethernet is not detected eather01:16
sobersabreYattaMaX, how do you modify a ROM ?01:17
SeveasLightVision, finding someone nearby with broadband may be faster then :)01:17
YattaMaXsobersabre: a ROM ?01:17
zone17soundray, trying apt-get install sun-j2re1.5 I am getting no install candidate01:17
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esachow do i take a cdrom and make a .iso ?01:17
sobersabreLive CD is distributed upon CD[ROM] 01:17
tyloCan someone help me with a problem I am having reguarding installing the "Windows Installer" component of Wine. I have the errors I am receiving filed here: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/259401:17
naliothesac: use k3b01:17
YattaMaXsobersabre: ah ok, yes, a ROM01:17
LightVisionSeveas:  yeah ;)01:18
waldeesac, dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/home/esac/myiso.iso or use k3b01:18
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sobersabreYattaMaX, are you working on your own image ?01:18
YattaMaXsobersabre: at the moment I have just modifyed a rom01:18
esacwalde: thanks, i prefer the dd way :)01:18
YattaMaXsobersabre: but at the boot, it ask som question in console mode01:18
kadigiboxif you can tell me how to get ubuntu to detect my network I could do that01:18
soundrayzone17: I have sun-j2sdk1.5.001:19
sobersabreYattaMaX, true. you probably need to enable braille tty01:19
naliothkadigibox: i do not know the terminal way. i'd just plug in the ethernet to your DSL modem and restart01:19
tyloMadpilotPPC: Do you have a moment?01:19
sobersabredoes it recognize the braile terminal ?01:19
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zone17soundray, where did you get that from? :-)01:19
YattaMaXsobersabre: I don't have a braile device01:19
triggkadigibox: try checking out pppoeconf01:19
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MiguelHi all01:19
YattaMaXsobersabre: I use only the voice01:19
zone17soundray, using any special repos?01:19
waldekadigibox, do you have a ethernet or a usb-connection to your dsl-modem01:20
TimeWaveDoes ubuntu have problems connecting to a router that has windows based comps connected to it?01:20
YattaMaXsobersabre: My necessity is that at the boot, it jumo all configurationquestion01:20
kadigiboxMY NETWORK Device01:20
zone17soundray, doing a chache search I only get 1.401:20
MiguelWould anyone be willing to help me install Hoary?  I'm on dial-up and it's freezing at the DHCP stage.01:20
YattaMaXsobersabre: jumo -> jump01:20
triggkadigibox:  if you are using gnome, try the System| Administration| Networking system program01:20
naliothTimeWave: nope01:20
sobersabreYattaMaX, 1. why not to try and configure braile ?01:20
esacis anybody running 2.6.13 kernel and having good luck with it? i am still running into issues where my laptop freezes when i shut it down, and hibernate isn't working01:20
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kadigiboxI cannot use ethernet if I cannot use the network device on the computer01:21
YattaMaXsobersabre: why I don't have a braile device :(01:21
sobersabrehmm.. how "blind" is the blind ?01:21
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sobersabreare they partially visually impaired ?01:21
HrdwrBoBdepends on the legal definition in that country01:22
tristanmikeI just posted in #flood, can anyone give me a hand01:22
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HrdwrBoByou don't have to be completely 'blind' to be blind01:22
HrdwrBoBtristanmike: use pastebin01:22
triggkadigibox: what kind of network device do you have?01:22
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YattaMaXsobersabre: My intention is to use only voice with festival and gnopernicus01:22
tristanmikeok01:22
sobersabretristanmike, with all the respect, i'll keep my hands to myself.01:22
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kadigiboxI don't know.  It doesnt show in lspci01:22
sobersabreYattaMaX, I understand01:22
tristanmikehttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/259501:23
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sobersabreand does festival allow voice input from the user ?01:23
soundrayzone17: Still searching...01:23
YattaMaXuser use the normal key01:23
triggkadigibox: plug in the usb connect for the dsl modem and try an lspci01:23
YattaMaXsobersabre: user use the normal key01:23
sobersabreok, got it.01:24
waldeTimeWave, try to setup an IP manually via the console using ifconfig. After that try to ping your DHCP-Server. If this works, check your DHCP-Serverlogs01:24
MiguelAnyone know anything about installing Hoary, for a computer on dial-up?  It's stalling at DHCP01:24
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sobersabrehave you read the initscript ? it is all shell scripts01:24
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sobersabreguys, is debian installer the program run after the boot on live CD ?01:25
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sobersabreor what ?01:25
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esacwhy can't linux fix it so that when i boot, if my wireless card doesn't have a connection, and my wired isnt plugged in, it doesn't hang for 2 minutes trying to connect? it seems like ive had this issue with every distro :(01:25
kadigiboxtrigg, I get a host bridge added01:25
TimeWavewalde: ifconfig or ipconfig? From a terminal/command prompt?01:25
triggkadigibox: ok, so at least it is recognizing something is plugged in.  What brand of modem is it?01:26
sobersabreesac, you should work on that yourself.01:26
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sobersabrewrite scripts for this.01:26
epilocok, i got a new laptop today, it has no OS installed.  Should the machine be able to pick up a pcmcia cdrom to boot from a CD?01:26
kadigiboxtrigg, actiontec01:26
waldeTimewave yes. ' ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.188 netmask 255.255.255.0 up '  Select a proper IP and Subnetmask01:26
sobersabreepiloc, is your CDROM sitting on pcmcia ?01:26
triggkadigibox:  do you have pppoe installed?01:27
YattaMaXsobersabre: ubuntu live cd, at the initial boot, maked an other / and install on this the udeb packages01:27
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sobersabreok, it does it in ram.01:27
sobersabreramdisk01:27
sobersabrethen it runs some file.01:27
YattaMaXyes in ramdisk01:27
sobersabreyou need to trac it, and see what is written in there.01:27
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epilocsobersabre, the cdrom is external pcmcia, yes01:27
sobersabrethen the answer for your question is ... yes :)01:28
epilocand pulls power from the pcmcia slot01:28
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cevizogluhow do I fix this problem I get on login: SIOCGIFFLAGS error: No such device01:28
sobersabreepiloc, wehat a strange laptop you have... no internal CD ?01:28
epilocsmall fujitsu lifebook01:28
epilocb 217501:28
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sobersabrei am not familiar...01:28
robertjheya all.01:28
YattaMaXsobersabre: the real problem is the absence of documentation for this work :(01:28
tgameh, fujitsus, had a bunch of trouble with my S-series01:28
robertjhas anyone here fought with lufs on hoary?01:29
sobersabreYattaMaX, you're wrong.01:29
epilocit doesnt detect the pcmcia nor does it display any pcmcia info in BIOS01:29
sobersabrethe  documentation is in debian project.01:29
hyperactivecronddo I have to use the kernel sources that come up in apt-cache?01:29
kadigiboxtrigg, why would I need pppoe?  The modem already is signed into the net by pppoa01:29
TimeWavethanks all01:29
tgahyperactivecrond, you can compile your own kernel from other sources if you wish01:29
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sobersabreubuntu uses probably live CD from knoppix, which is also based on debian.01:29
YattaMaXsobersabre: documentation for normal customization is ok, but for this question si very absent01:29
robertjthe lufs image doesn't work properly when built with module assistant01:29
robertjerr lufs kernel source module01:30
triggkadigibox: didn't realize.  Some modems don't do that. :)  What can you see with ifconfig?01:30
jrattner1Is there any equivalent of microsoft frontpage for linux01:30
epilocanyone have any suggestions how I can get an OS on a laptop over a network boot?01:30
cevizoglusobersabre, more like gnoppix01:30
sobersabrewhat question, how to automate some questions of debian-installer ?!01:30
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sobersabrethanks, cevizoglu01:30
crimsunepiloc, use the netboot pxe instructions01:30
tristanmikeHrdwrBoB, pasted01:30
kadigiboxtrigg, the local loopback01:30
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crimsunepiloc, that's how I install Breezy these days01:30
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HrdwrBoBpl01:30
HrdwrBoBok01:30
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YattaMaXsobersabre: documentation for modifying the boot process of the live cd01:31
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tristanmikeHrdwrBoB, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/259501:31
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HrdwrBoBtristanmike: ooh.01:31
sobersabreYattaMaX, the debian installer is binary.01:31
HrdwrBoByour shit is broken01:31
tristanmikeD'OH!01:31
sobersabreif you want to automate, you can01:31
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HrdwrBoBcould be a hard drive failure01:31
triggkadigibox: does ifconfig ppp0 give you anything?01:31
sobersabreYattaMaX, but if you want to modify debian-installer... you need to learn how it works.01:31
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sobersabrei mean as a program.01:32
evianI've been trying to get skype to work in ubuntu for days. I've read a bunch of things on it, but nothing seems to work.01:32
kadigiboxtrigg, um why would it be ppp0?  This would be a network connection wouldnt it be eth0?01:32
tristanmikeHrdwrBoB, terminal won't start01:32
tyloevian: What's the problem?01:32
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sobersabreYattaMaX, why are there no special blind oriented distributions ?01:32
moparfan90hello01:32
eviantylo: no sound01:32
triggkadigibox: are you using an ethernet cable?01:32
benkong2hey all does beagle work in breezy?01:32
eviantylo: I try echo123 test and hear nothing01:32
crimsunepiloc, the basic instructions at http://wiki.koeln.ccc.de/index.php/Ubuntu_PXE_Install are helpful01:32
benkong2! beagle01:32
ubotumethinks beagle is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryBeagleInstallHowto01:32
HrdwrBoBtristanmike: yes01:32
epiloccrimsun01:32
epilocgreat thanks01:33
kentsobersabre, is not Gnome supposed to include support for those things? So every distribution with gnome should be ok? Or am i wrong?01:33
YattaMaXsobersabre: don't thinks that it exists01:33
HrdwrBoBtristanmike: your whole system is basically stuffed01:33
tyloevian: I see. Do you have a music player running or open at the same time?01:33
tristanmikeHrdwrBoB, hmmm, so where to proceed, just reinstall?01:33
eviantylo: no01:33
HrdwrBoBtristanmike: run 'dmesg'01:33
kadigiboxtrigg, no but anyway nether are running01:33
HrdwrBoBtristanmike: if you can01:33
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michani'm having a lot of trouble installing nvidia drivers.  i think i need the latest kernel source, but there isn't a package for my version (2.6.12-9-386)01:33
moparfan90im trying to install the game torcs and when i try to do the commands 'make' , 'make install', and 'make datainstall' i get this:  configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH01:33
moparfan90See `config.log' for more details.01:33
moparfan90make: *** [Make-config]  Error 101:33
tristanmikeHrdwrBoB, terminal wont start01:33
HrdwrBoBtristanmike: as I said, might be a dead hard drive01:33
moparfan90what can i do?01:33
triggkadigibox: unless you are actually using your network card, it will not be eth001:33
sobersabreYattaMaX, I think i've stumbled into something.01:33
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Seveas!info torcs01:33
tyloevian: Hm. I see. Have you dealt with things such as ALSA and ESD yet?01:33
ubotutorcs: (3D racing cars simulator game using OpenGL), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 1.2.2-5ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 2325 kB, Installed size: 29824 kB01:33
Agrajagmoparfan90: sudo apt-get install build-essential01:33
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Seveasmoparfan90, apt-get install torcs01:33
kadigiboxtrigg, well I would like to be able to use the network card.  I don't know how though01:34
Agrajagor just get torcs from the universe repository01:34
kadigiboxThe network card is not shown on lspci01:34
eviantylo: I tried the stuff in the ubuntuguide, but it didn't seem to work, then Seveas told me not to use the ubuntuguide so I undid it.01:34
soundrayzone17: Bad news01:34
HrdwrBoBtristanmike: you don't have one open?01:34
michancan anyone help me install nvidia drivers? or at least install the right kernel sources for my kernel version?01:34
Seveas!nvidia01:34
ubotufrom memory, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia01:34
eviantylo: I didn't know what I was doing, I just followed the instructions01:34
moparfan90ok thanks lol01:34
tristanmikeHrdwrBoB, one wont open01:34
soundrayzone17: This is where I had it from: http://ubuntujava.yimports.com/News.shtml01:34
tyloevian: There is a howto that worked for me. However, I believe sound may have been working for me out of the box.01:34
eviantylo: I tried killing off esd01:34
benkong2do hoary install docs for beagle work for breezy?01:34
HrdwrBoBtristanmike: that's because your hard drive is broken01:35
waldekadigibox, I just wonder as you told about a usb-connection some lines before. Do you have a usb-connection to your modem or networkdevice?01:35
jrattner1Does mozilla come with a web design component?01:35
sobersabreok, must go.01:35
eviantylo: sound seems to work in other apps ok for me01:35
Agrajagyes, mozilla composer01:35
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tristanmikeHrdwrBoB, so reinstall?01:35
kadigiboxwalde, yes01:35
Seveasjrattner1, nvu01:35
eviantylo: was the howto on the wiki or somewhere else?01:35
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zone17soundray, thank you veyr much, you have been very helpfull!01:35
HrdwrBoBtristanmike: yes, if possible01:35
jrattner1Seveas, NVU?01:35
YattaMaXsobersabre: thanks for all, now I going into bed01:35
SeveasNVU :)01:35
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HrdwrBoBtristanmike: as I said before, most likely a hardware problem01:35
nixiacjrattnerl: yep, go get it at >System>administration>Sysaptic Package Manager01:36
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jrattner1Seveas, NVPOO?01:36
triggkadigibox: right. as walde is implying, if you are using USB then it will not be eth001:36
tyloevian: Try this guide http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063&pp=10&highlight=Failed+construct+test+pipeline01:36
YattaMaXsobersabre: goodnight01:36
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jrattner1nixiac, ok01:36
YattaMaXgoodnicht01:36
evianok.. thanks01:36
YattaMaXgoodnight01:36
waldekadigibox, so, there seems to be the problem. USB-Modems often doesnt work properbly without special drivers. Unfortunately, these drivers are most times for windows only.01:36
triggkadigibox: i believe that if you use the usb connection, you have to use pppoe01:36
jrattner1nixiac, then?01:36
jrattner1Seveas, what is MVU?01:36
jrattner1Seveas, what is NVU? :)01:36
benkong2anyone? do hoary install docs for beagle work for breezy?01:36
eviantylo: if I can't get it working in the next couple hours, I will have to do something drastic. Like boot into windows :)01:37
Seveasjrattner1, the mozilla web editor :)01:37
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kadigiboxwalde, the modem has Ethernet as well and wireless01:37
benkong2NVU is a web development tool01:37
Seveasbenkong2, in breezy it's as simple as apt-get install beagle01:37
kadigiboxbut eathernet and wireless does me no good if the devices don't work!01:37
jrattner1Seveas, ahh can i download it standalone?01:37
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soundrayzone17: you're welcome. If you don't need java applets, I would still suggest the Adblock route.01:37
Seveasyes, package nvu :)01:37
eruinanyone know where the banshee playlist is stored?01:37
nixiacjrattnerl: yep, you simply go to the tree for what you want, and click on the box for the program.  IF dep libraries are needed, a second box opens, to offer you choice to stop, or go with the install, of the prog, plus, any dep libraries.01:38
benkong2Seveas; got that and its in the menu but it doesn't work and there is no xattr_ thingy in my /etc/fstab01:38
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waldekadigibox, Do you have an extra pci-card or a ethernetchip on your motherboard?01:38
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jrattner1Seveas, sounds good :  )01:38
Seveasuser_xattr01:38
esacdoes anybody have a good generic .vimrc (line numbers, tabs at 4, spaces instead of tabs) ?01:38
Seveasyrah, user_xattr helps :)01:38
kadigiboxwalde, I said its a LAPTOP01:39
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Seveasesac, Your data has been posted to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/259601:39
benkong2Seveas; so can I use the wiki install docs for hoary as a guide for setting it up?01:39
Seveasehm, just the url, the rest is output of a script I made...01:39
kadigiboxIBM T20 Laptop01:39
Seveasbenkong2, lemme see01:39
esacthanks seveas. i have my .vimrc at home, but unfortunately im not at home right now01:39
AlosHi everyboy01:39
sorush20guys when I type sudo /etc/init.d/hotplug restart, my system keboard crashes..01:39
lgcHello everyone from Mexico! Can anyone tell me how can I uninstall the latest -faulty- version of Firefox from my Hoary and reinstall the one on my CD?01:39
benkong2Seveas; this is what i'm looking at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryBeagleInstallHowto01:40
tristanmikeHrdwrBoB, oh, btw, thanx for your time01:40
waldekadigibox, sorry, I cant see all lines. Also even Laptops dont have everything built in on their own motherboard. Many cards are extra, even you cant see it. However, please, tell me again, what manufactor and modell?01:40
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AlosHow can a see a unmount partiton01:40
kadigiboxwalde, IBM Thinkpad T2001:40
dooglusanyone know of a good "learning vim" tutorial?  I know vi, and I know emacs, but need to learn the 'new' vim stuff01:40
Seveasbenkong2, just apt-get install beagle01:41
Seveasand do the user_xattr trick01:41
Seveasno more01:41
benkong2Seveas; k thanks01:41
hyperactivecrond!vim01:41
ubotuhyperactivecrond: I haven't a clue01:41
hyperactivecrond!vi01:41
ubotuNot a clue, hyperactivecrond01:41
hyperactivecrondeergh01:41
crimsundooglus, vimtutor01:41
Seveasdooglus, google for the vim book01:41
Seveasik has a chapter on the vi - vim diffs01:41
hyperactivecrond!vimtutor01:41
ubotuhyperactivecrond: Did you get hit by a windmill?01:41
eruinanyone know whether ubuntuexpress is incorporated in the latest livecds?01:41
hyperactivecrondnvm then :)01:41
Seveashyperactivecrond, please do not play with any bot01:41
dooglusSeveas: thanks.  crimsun: what's vimtutor?01:41
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Seveasdooglus, it's the for-total-newbies intro to vi(m)01:42
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Seveaseruin, ?01:42
linnerhey guys... tell me this.. if you install something using "su" and then the program installs in your root directory, what kind of consequence am I looking at?01:42
eviantylo: yeah that guide is interesting, it is similar to the ubuntuguide suggestions but takes it a step or two further. I know it can work because skype used to work under Mandrake for me (which I removed)01:42
crimsundooglus, err, I just reread your question. It probably won't be all that useful.01:42
JustinHHi try to listen to a radio webstation in the webbrowser. the plugin searcher can't find any suitable plugin.01:42
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zack_hi01:42
lgcHello everyone! Can anyone here help me?01:42
Seveaslinner, total breakage, nuclear meltdown, vulcano eruption01:42
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linner:O)01:43
crimsundooglus, it's more of a tutorial for new vi users, and since it starts in vi-compatible mode, you won't gain much if anything from it.01:43
linnerSeveas:  is it a big, big problem?01:43
Seveasdooglus, in #ubuntu-bugbot you can freely play with it01:43
tyloevian: Sweet. I went through a small bout with tryig to get Skype sound to work simultaneously with a music player. So I know of just about every guide out there. I ended up buying a sound card in the end since onboard sound doesn't support it.01:43
Seveaslinner, depends on what is was and how you installed it01:43
linnerit was wine01:43
crimsuntylo, actually it _is_ possible.01:43
triggkadigibox: which version of the actiontec modem do you have?01:43
linnerand it didn't install with sudo because of "permissions" problems01:43
Seveaslinner, total breakage, nuclear meltdown, vulcano eruption01:43
eruinSeveas, nothing, you just give people the impression of knowing everything there is to know regarding ubuntu :)01:43
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Seveasyou should have installed it via synaptic :)01:44
crimsuntylo, I'm working on a tutorial that will be part of the media-centric portion of Ubuntu01:44
linnertried01:44
tylocrimsun: Hey, you were the guy helping me out before. You told me to buy the sound card. :-P01:44
lgcHELP!01:44
waldekadigibox, should be an Integrated Intel Pro/100+. But however, it needs to be displayed in lspci... You said, " lspci |grep Ethernet  " shows no results. Thats mysterious... moment01:44
Seveaseruin, heh, there's so much I don't know :)01:44
crimsuntylo, yes, because at the time it was easier than using oss2jack01:44
linnerSeveas:  it's not my problem.... i was trying to help tylo with it... and the best advise i could give him was a link to winehq.org01:44
tylocrimsun: That's alright.01:44
crimsuntylo, now that a significant number of bugs have been fixed in oss2jack, I can reevaluate it.01:44
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linnerSeveas:  and from there is where we ran into problems... when he used the "su" command to install the program it automatically installed it in to his root directory01:45
tylocrimsun: Cool. I hope to see the myriad of onboard sounders to come to simultaneous sound euphoria.01:45
Jan-When my friend tries to run the volume control under Breezy, he gets this error: Registry is not present or is corrupted please update it by running gst-register01:45
linnerSeveas:  i'm assuming this is completely fixable... but i'm not terrible certain.. and don't want to keep "helping" if I don't know what in the crap I'm doin' :)01:45
robertjbbtw, if anyone is interested fuse installs fine on hoary  if you use fuse-source from breezy01:46
HrdwrBoBJan-: did you run gst-register?01:46
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triggwald: there are two version of the T20 - kadigibox: check out this website - http://www.spack.org/wiki/ThinkPadT2001:46
Jan-I presume so. Let me check.01:46
evianwhat is oss2jack crimsun?01:46
lgclinner, noone seems to answer my calls. Could you help me?01:46
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eviansorry I should google it01:46
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linnerlgc:  i'll try01:46
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daniminashi01:47
JustinHHi try to listen to a radio webstation in the webbrowser. the plugin searcher can't find any suitable plugin. how can i know what plugin i need? the broser redirects me to the microsoft website01:47
linnerlgc:  Keep in mind I'm a VERY new user.  Ok?  So, I'll do my best.01:47
hybrid_gothwho here was it that worked on petitioning UbuntuX?01:47
hyperactivecrond!ubuntuexpress01:47
ubotuhyperactivecrond: Are you on ritalin?01:47
dooglusis there a program which will pop up a message when I'm running low on disk space?  I just ran out completely - and that's not a good thing to do01:47
SeveasJustinHH, probably an mms:// stream01:47
SeveasBreezy will soon be able to play such streams01:48
daniminasparport webcams have support?01:48
Quinthiushybrid_goth: petitioning?01:48
lgclinner, thanks. I just upgraded the version of Firefox and I came out with a faulty application. I want to remove it (no problem with it) and to reinstall the previous version from my Hoary CD. Can you tell me how?01:48
waldetrigg, kadigibox, but this doesnt explains why the card isnt mentioned in the pci-list. Also mini-pci-cards should.01:48
JustinHHi don't know01:48
linnerlgc:  what version are you looking for?01:48
linnerlgc:  I know that can be done.  I've seen other people talking about it in the channel.01:49
JustinHHseveas:  may i type the site here and you can check it out pls?01:49
hybrid_gothQuinthius: me and a guy tried to start a backing for what they are calling XUbuntu a while back01:49
lgclinner,  the one that comes with the Hoary CD. That one seems to work OK.01:49
SeveasJustinHH, sure01:49
linnerlgc:  my question is why do you think it was a fauly application?01:49
JustinHHwww.energy.de01:49
triggwalde: according to linux-on-laptops, there is a known bug with the 3com card - kadigibox: try modprobing the 3C59x module for your card and see if it loads01:49
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JustinHHon the left side there is a link listen live01:50
kadigiboxtrigg, in a sec the computer just ran out of batt01:50
JustinHHit opens a popup window01:50
linnerlgc:  Did you install the update via synaptic?01:50
lgclinner, because I can't download (turns out error codes) and I can't use the top bar menus. At least the Spanish version doesn't work...01:51
Knelixhybrid_goth: I've been wanting to try xfce, but I'm not sure how to install it exactly.01:51
JustinHHyou must the click a radio station01:51
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lgclinner, yes.01:51
triggkadigibox: Here is another how-to for Gentoo - but you can probably interpolate the settings to work with Ubuntu . . http://howjay.w3.org.cn/works/article-gentoo20043-on-ibmt20.html01:51
SeveasJustinHH, mplayerplugin handles that one just fine01:51
crimsunKnelix, apt-get install xfce401:51
linnerlgc:  what are the error codes?01:51
Knelixhmm.01:51
SeveasJustinHH, get mozilla-mplayer01:51
JustinHHcan i get it via synaptic?01:51
linnerlgc:  it doesn't sound like it's a faulty software app01:51
Seveasand w32codecs01:51
crimsunKnelix, log out of GNOME, then choose the Xfce session in GDM's session menu01:51
Seveasyes01:51
JustinHHok01:51
JustinHHseveas: do you know if it workes also with opera?01:52
Seveasit won't01:52
Seveasbut since opera sucks anyway, it's not so big a problem ;)01:52
JustinHH:))01:52
daniminassomebody know if webcams in parports have support?01:52
lgclinner, the options on the top bar just don roll down. The download, on the other hand, ends up with some error code I just didn write down.01:52
zack_ATI is gay i hate ati01:53
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zack_why do they make things so diffucult01:53
linnerlgc:  ok... back up your bookmarks (if you have any)01:53
Quinthiuszack_: how so?01:53
linnerlgc: this is what i would do...01:53
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prcI am trying to run gtkpod in ubuntu, and apparently it requires the library "libgpod" or "libmp4v2".  Neither of them are availible via apt.  What can I do?01:53
linnerlgc:  then go through synaptic again and redownload firefox01:53
lgclinner, I wasn't able to do that..01:53
linnerlgc:  what weren't you able to do ?01:54
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kadigiboxtrigg, how do I modprob.  I am getting a message there is no modprob01:54
liz4rdanyone haveing problems with the nvidia drivers on breezy? i instaled them then enabled but no glx01:54
XorlevOkay, so recently I updated Firefox to that 1.0.7 upgrade, and now Flashplayer doesn't work. I tried completely uninstalling flash and reinstalling...no dice. Same for Firefox.01:54
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lgclinner, because the roll-down menus just didn't roll down!01:54
Xorlevkadigibox: modprobe01:54
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linnerlgc:  when you say roll down menus... are you talking about the menu line in firefox?01:55
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Knelixcrimsun: Cool. :-)01:55
lgclinner, indeed.01:55
linnerlgc:  ok... then you can retrieve your bookmarks through the file01:55
liz4rdanyone have any ideas?01:55
linnerlgc:  hold on a sec... let me go look where they are01:55
linnerlgc:  wait one minute01:55
auk!imovie01:55
ubotuI haven't a clue, auk01:55
aukubotu: ping01:55
ubotuKeep your fingers to yourself, auk.01:55
auk!info ubotu01:55
zack_i hope ati company rotts in hell01:55
lgclinner, never mind. I didn't have any because it's a fresh install.01:55
waldetrigg, maybe acpi=off is an option (your linked gentoo-docu). kadigibox " modprobe 3c59x "01:56
Quinthiuszack_: are you going to explain your problem, or just keep complaining?01:56
auk!info imovie01:56
dooglusXorlev: that saves you having to install the flashblock extension I guess01:56
Knelixcrimsun, hybrid_goth: This is a lovely theme, too. The default Gnome theme should be more like this.01:56
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Xorlevdooglus: Heh, yeah. But I need flash :P01:56
triggwalde: I agree ..01:56
kadigiboxwalde, I did modprobe 3c59x so now what?01:56
crimsunKnelix, I like both default themes01:56
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waldekadigibox, try an "ifconfig eth0 up"01:57
prcI am trying to run gtkpod in ubuntu, and apparently it requires the library "libgpod" or "libmp4v2".  Neither of them are availible via apt.  What can I do?01:57
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kadigiboxwalde, no sutch device01:57
prchow does this room work? I just ask questions, or is there a line?01:58
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_jasonprc: just ask01:58
hyperactivecrondprc: ask away01:58
liz4rdask away prc01:58
hyperactivecrondwe, (i speak for myself here) won't bite01:58
crimsunprc, libmp4v2-0 is available in breezy/multiverse01:59
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waldekadigibox, trigg also if I would like to know how it ends, I need to go to bed (its 2 a.m. here).  kadigibox shutdown, turn on, and boot with the kernel-option acpi=off  . If your device isnt listed in lspci after that.... I dont know, sorry.01:59
prccrimsun: so just add that to my source list for apt?01:59
crimsunprc, if you're using breezy, sure01:59
linnerlgc:  ok... I can't find mine either.  Do you have your bookmarks backed up anywhere else?01:59
trigglater walde01:59
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BlankBis there a list of what packages and version #'s are in breezy.?01:59
prccrimsun: I'm using Hoary01:59
lgc02:00
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daniminascan i put to work a paralel por webcam?02:00
Bartimaeushey, can anyone tell me how to install java, now that it isnt included in the hoary extras repository?02:00
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kadigiboxhow do I boot with kernel-option acpi=off?02:00
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grndslmI have a networking question...somebody asked me to scp my syslog file to another *nix computer: "then you can 'scp /var/log/syslog username@othermachine:'"....how do I find out what to put in place of othermachine02:01
bimberiubotu tell Bartimaeus about java02:01
crimsun_kadigibox, specify it at the grub prompt02:01
JustinHHmust have ubuntu some free space to work on the harddisc and how much?02:01
kadigiboxI don't get a grub prompt02:01
lgclinner, no. It's a fresh -from today- install. Let me narrow down on my question: do you know how I can install from my Ubuntu CD instead of from the Ubuntu repository? What option must I pass to apt-get?02:01
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triggkadigibox: or edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst file and add acpi=off to the end of the kernel line for the kernel that you use02:01
crimsun_JustinHH, you need at least 1 gig of freeable space. The free space doesn't have to exist. The installer can resize NTFS.02:02
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linnerlgc:  I don't know the answer to that.  I've never tried to install something from CD.  So.......02:02
nixiacJustinHH: Installed my Ubuntu Hoary on 7 Gb partition, but, it only took 1.9Gb for the total... YMMMV02:02
prccrimsun, so am I out of luck?02:02
linnerCan anyone help with how to tell apt-get to install from CD?  Specifically firefox?02:02
zack_linner i dont think its possible02:03
crimsun_prc, why are you out of luck?02:03
linnerzack_:  are you sure?02:03
lgclinner. Thanks anyway. I hope you don't get offended if I ask someone else, like crimsun ...02:03
JustinHHi have instaled it on one purtition and after the updates i made i have just ~600 mb free left02:03
linnerlgc:  oh lord, not at all02:03
prccrimsun, because I'm using Hoary02:03
JustinHHthe partition has 2 gb02:03
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JustinHHthe hdd 40 gb02:03
trigglinner: check your sources.list and remove all entries except the cd source at the top02:03
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zack_i had the same problem being the reason im on dialup... i a few apps but they stayed all greyed out02:03
JustinHHbut i also have windows installed02:03
KnelixHaha!... Even a Mac OS 9-style theme...02:03
lgclinner, well, then...02:03
trigglinner: or comment them out . . . not remove02:04
linnerlgc:  see trigg's comment02:04
linnertrigg:  thank you :)02:04
sorush20my computer has lost its speed, I don't know why can somone help please..02:04
prccrimsun, and the library I need is in the breezy source list02:04
nixiacAfter all updates, with Desktop, plus Fileserver, my install of Kernel2.6.10-2-10-k7, and EVERYTHING graphical, is still only 1.9Gb.02:04
KnelixSay, can I apply these XFCE themes to Gnome?02:04
liz4rduh02:04
liz4rdif there gtk02:04
trigglinner, lgc: no problem, don't forget to apt-get update after you change the sources.list02:04
liz4rdanyone wanna help me make gnome pretty02:05
liz4rd?02:05
liz4rd:D02:05
qt2bah, i broke the removable media(cd/dvd) automount functionof ubuntu somehow... any idea how i can fix it?02:05
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crimsunprc, why not dist-upgrade to breezy?02:05
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linnertrigg:  you rock dude :O)02:05
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trigglinner: thanks man.02:05
daniminassomebody know if webcams in parports have support?02:05
liz4rdKnelix, yeah if tehre gtk02:05
lgctrigg, thanks!02:05
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Quinthiusliz4rd: gnome can only be so pretty, but www.gnome-look.com has a lot of stuff.02:05
Quinthiusliz4rd: .org, i mean02:05
tylotrigg: You busy?02:06
Knelixliz4rd: How can I tell?02:06
triggtylo: nope02:06
linuxjeffeasy way to make ubuntu pretty: sudo apt-get install MacOSX02:06
tylotrigg: Any experience with Wine?02:06
prccrimsun, I would just type, "apt-get dist-upgrade breezy"?02:06
liz4rdQuinthius, i know i'm there now :P but i cant make them like the screenshots :P02:06
liz4rdKnelix, um hmmm where did you download them from?02:06
crimsunprc, no, there's a set of instructions on the wiki and on the bot02:06
prcokay02:06
prcthanks02:06
triggtylo: a little.  I kind of got tired of struggling with it so I brokedown and bought CrossOver Office02:07
nixiacqt2: you might have 'updated' or ''upgraded' something that wrote a new /etc/fstabs that changed permissions... happened to me LOTS of times!02:07
Knelixcrimsun: They came with the XFCE... when I issued the apt-get command.02:07
liz4rdno02:07
cevizoglulinuxjeff: do you mean mol-drivers-macosx?02:07
kadigiboxstill doesnt show up in lspci02:07
tylotrigg: Ah. I was just trying to get it installed. Having big problems with this "Windows Installer" component.02:07
triggtylo, mostly I just try to find a linux application that does what I want.02:07
triggtylo: what are you trying to install?02:07
crimsunKnelix, come again?02:07
crimsun(I'm missing context)02:07
linuxjeffcrimsun: do you know if pybackpack has been packaged for ubuntu?02:07
linuxjeffhttp://minus-zero.org/projects/pybackpack/screenshots/0.4/02:07
liz4rdKnelix, http://art.gnome.org/themes/gtk_engines/67002:08
BartimaeusAhh!!!!!!!   I'm sp cpnfused!!!  Can anyone hold my hand and help me install java?02:08
crimsunlinuxjeff, check via packages.ubuntu.com02:08
linuxjeffIt was a google summer of code fedora project that works fine on ubuntu.02:08
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tylotrigg: Well, actually, as goofy as it sounds, Ultima Online.02:08
chavoKnelix, xfce has an included gtk theme engine and some very nice themes02:08
tylotrigg: But for now, I am just trying to get Wine configured correctly.02:08
zack_i hated fedora02:08
liz4rdchavo, i gave him a good link its the gnome-xfce-engine or w/e02:09
Knelixcrimsun: The theme I refer to came with XFCE... i didn't download it independently... I just installed XFCE via the apt-get command, and haven't installed anything else.02:09
liz4rdzack_, word02:09
triggtylo: games and wine are tough - they usually require directx which wine doesn't implement well.02:09
nixiachohoho linuxjeff, you funny fella!  But, Mac OSX is a fork of DarwinBSD, which is a fork of 386BSD.  Like the EVIL EMPIRE M$, they steal the code, lock the user to THEIR agenda, and charge more...02:09
crimsunKnelix, that's correct, that's how we packaged it.02:09
linuxjeffcrimsun: It is not, but It is really easy to get working on ubuntu from src. How can I package it to get put in universe?02:09
hyperactivecrondnixiac, be glad it's unix.02:09
triggtylo: are you using the wine from ubuntu? or from winehq?02:09
Bartimaeusdoes anyone know of a repository that has java in it?02:09
linuxjeffOr is it too late for it to be added to universe?02:09
crimsunlinuxjeff, see wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU02:09
tylotrigg: Let me check on that.02:09
benkong2does it matter where I install the google api for beagle?02:10
crimsunlinuxjeff, follow the appropriate link(s)02:10
Knelixchavo, crimsun: Then, the themes included are Gnome compatible as well>02:10
Knelix?02:10
linuxjeffpybackpack == HIG-ified rsync / rdiff-backup gui for backups02:10
zack_i hate windows, redhat , fedora and ATI drivers02:10
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linuxjeffdont hate :)02:10
liz4rdzack_, we have alot in common :P02:10
chavoKnelix, of course02:10
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tylotrigg: I followed this guide to apt-get it from source forge. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5689202:10
nixiacFedora is the reason I switched to Knoppix, then Debian, now, Ubuntu!  Sooooo glad I 'found' POSIX copmliant Nix!02:10
ColonelKernelhow do I run X apps as root when im logged into X as a user?02:10
eviantylo: hi again, I rebooted. now I can't play any sounds.02:10
Knelixchavo: goody! :-)02:10
crimsunlinuxjeff, I'll go ahead and mention that most of us are very strapped for time, so although it's _possible_ to be in Breezy, it's fairly unlikely it'll make it in.02:10
hyperactivecrondnixiac, please join #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to troll here.02:11
chavojust go to theme manager and hit the Theme Details button, then you can change the gtk theme seperately02:11
triggtylo: hold on a sec . . .02:11
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linuxjeffcrimsun: Can things be included in universe after the release?02:11
epiloccrimsun02:11
linuxjeffAnd when is the official release?02:11
zack_im gunna switch to kde!02:11
linuxjeffIf making a dsc is easy, I will do it02:11
eviantylo: but I wonder, I don't see anything in the ps aux, when I grep for esd or alsa, I'm wondering shouldn't I have something like that running as a sound demon?02:11
cevizoglulinuxjeff: oct. 13th02:11
crimsunlinuxjeff, once a release is made, universe is frozen for that release.02:11
hyperactivecrondzack_, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktopp02:11
hyperactivecrondoops02:11
linnercrimsun:  have any experience with wine?02:11
epiloccrimsun, no boot file name received02:12
zack_doom the movie  is coming out!02:12
hyperactivecrondkubuntu-desktop*02:12
liz4rdzack_, ewi02:12
epilocfollowed the PXE install step by step02:12
triggtylo: did you check out this website? http://frankscorner.org/02:12
zack_die folks die!02:12
liz4rdlol02:12
zack_kde > gnome for life02:12
crimsunepiloc, is the machine getting the appropriate DHCP lease?02:12
linuxjeffcrimsun: do you have any decent debian packaging tutorials? And if I made a deb within a week, do you think it would make it into universe if it was good?02:12
tylotrigg: Yeah. They don't have any details about the Windows Installer.02:12
crimsunlinner, a little02:12
linuxjeffI have made dozens of rpm packages02:12
evianperhaps my /etc/asound.cond needs advanced tweaking? I'm on a laptop, but I have no idea what to do02:12
epiloccrimsun yes, its picking up an IP02:12
tyloevian: I think it is your asound.cond that is causing it.02:13
linnertylo is having some problems with wine... and we've gone through the forums and google and for some reason it still isn't working properly02:13
crimsunlinuxjeff, wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources . I doubt it will make it in in that timeframe due to our review process.02:13
qt2nixiac: /dev/hdb        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660     ro,user,noauto                    0   002:13
kadigiboxhmmm even reinstalling it wont detect network hardware02:13
evianI meant asound.conf02:13
nixiacTouchy feely today, about somthing?  Here to learn, help if I can, and I get slammed?02:13
linuxjeffcrimsun: thanks02:13
linnertylo:  can you explain exactly the error messages you're getting to crimsun ?02:13
zack_im having problems with ati drivers!02:13
zack_but im working on it... i hope ati rotts in hell02:13
ColonelKernelhow do I run X apps as root when im logged into X as a user?02:13
tylosure.02:13
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tyloevian: Right, me too.02:14
triggtylo, "Windows Installer?"  are you trying to get the .Net components to work?02:14
liz4rdanyone els have nvidia driver problems ie them not working in breezy?02:14
qt2ColonelKernel: open a root terminal and type: sudo programname?02:14
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zack_liz4rd02:14
crimsunepiloc, paste onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl the section that you added to the dhcpd conffile02:14
zack_is all ur kernal modules updated?02:14
qt2ColonelKernel: or if you dont want to keep the terminal open, sudo programname &02:14
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ColonelKernelqt2 Error: could not open display02:14
ColonelKernelUnable to start video emulation02:14
tylotrigg: I'm following this guide. For configuring wine with WineTools. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=149181&postcount=402:14
Agrajagqt2: why sudo if you're ina  root terminal already?02:15
qt2Agrajag: err, because my groggy brain says so? :P02:15
liz4rdzack_, yeah02:15
liz4rdjust today02:15
liz4rdshould i reinstall them?02:15
ColonelKernelI am logged in as a user, I have X/Gnome all up, im in an xterminal and im logged in as root via su -02:15
zack_umm02:15
zack_ur fullly updated?02:15
ColonelKernelI need to be able to give root the ability to start apps02:16
tylotrigg: At the bottom of the post it tells an order in which things should be installed.02:16
qt2bah, dont use su.02:16
qt2ColonelKernel: bah, dont use su.02:16
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crimsunepiloc, make sure your dhcp server is the only one on your network02:16
grndslmdooglus: did anybody answer your question about a program to notify you when your harddisk is full??  same thing JUST happened to me02:16
qt2ubotu, rootsudo02:16
ubotusomebody said rootsudo was at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo02:16
qt2ColonelKernel: ^^^02:16
triggtylo: you could always try the most recent version of winetools- http://www.von-thadden.de/Joachim/WineTools/02:16
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ColonelKernelAnyone else? how do I give root the ability to run apps when logged in as root via su -?02:17
liz4rdzack_, yup02:17
ZBlachhowdy. anyone here get wireless networking up in breezy?02:17
liz4rdsynaptic said i was02:17
sudonimcan anyone recommend podcast software for ubuntu?02:17
thiagohello, I need a favour from someone with Breezy02:17
cevizogluColonelKernel, your question was already answered twice02:17
thiagocan someone run  nm -D /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 | grep -c Xau ?02:17
liz4rdthiago, yeah?02:17
sudonimjust for downloading podcasts02:17
qt2ColonelKernel: err, read that link, and use sudo instaed of su -...02:17
qt2*instead02:17
grndslmsudonim: streamtuner works well for me02:17
nixiacqt2: I might not know programming as I am trying to llearn it, but, I been doing hardware since 1965.  building, finin... and one thing I have found is that when we put a CDrom on the same IDE buss as a hard drive, they all slow down to the cdrom buss speed.  AND, I have found other problemm, too.  So you have CDROM0 installed as second device on first IDE?02:17
sudonimcool. Thanks!02:17
epiloccrimsun, pasted02:17
triggtylo: on that last webpage it lists which versions of wine work with winetools02:17
ZBlachstreamtuner, eh?02:18
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ColonelKernelcevizoglu, it has not been answered at all - "dont use su" and "use sudo" are not answers to my question. Sorry.02:18
epiloci am on a home lan with a linksys router02:18
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qt2nixiac: 2nd. :o02:18
epilocim assuming i need to shut down the dhcp on the router02:18
pgwanyone using scim on breezy?02:18
crimsunthiago, the path differs, and the result is 0.02:18
sudonimgrndslm: Does streamtuner do podcasts too?02:18
crimsunthiago, crimsun@garnish:~$ ls /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 | grep -c Xau02:18
crimsun  ==> 002:18
tylotrigg: Last webpage?02:18
thiagocrimsun: thanks02:18
linuxjeffColonelKernel: When you dont cooperate with the people who are trying to help you for free... you get what you pay for02:18
triggtylo: http://www.von-thadden.de/Joachim/WineTools/02:18
thiagocrimsun: what X is that?02:19
cevizoglu!attitude02:19
ubotuThe people in #ubuntu are volunteers, your attitude determines their willingness to help you out.02:19
crimsunthiago, "what X"?02:19
tylotrigg: Okay, I gotcha. Had to scroll down a bit.02:19
thiagocrimsun: XFree86 or X.org?02:19
grndslmsudonim: it just listens to shoutcast files and allows you to save the good stations...no server functionality.  You'd have to look into shoutcast for something like that02:19
crimsunthiago, X Window System Version 6.8.2 (Ubuntu 6.8.2-69 20050920093941 root@terranova.warthogs.hbd.com)02:19
ColonelKernellinuxjeff, Im sorry, I appreciate their effort to help, but their answer wasnt what I needed.02:19
nixiacqt2:  U mean cdrom is on second IDE, and hard drive(s) on primary IDE... cool. Then, I say that somthing is screwy with the permissions...02:19
ColonelKernelI need an answer to the actual question I asked.02:19
tyloHeh. Apparantly mine isn't displayed.02:19
tylotrigg: Aparantly my version of Wine isn't in that list.02:20
Bartimaeusim so pissed off... Why did they take java out of the hoary extras repository.   Can anyone help me?02:20
qt2nixiac: inded.02:20
cevizogluColonelKernel, your question was answered, you type the name of the program you want to run in the terminal02:20
linuxjeffColnelKernel: Open a normal terminal, then sudo commandname02:20
crimsunBartimaeus, why not just make your own deb of a JRE/JDK?02:20
qt2ColonelKernel: did you ever think that using su - might cause those errors?02:20
ColonelKernelcevizoglu, im sorry, but that doesnt work, as I posted.02:20
triggtylo: ahh...figures. I think there was a link to download his recommended version.02:20
linuxjeffColnelKernel: If you are too lazy to use sudo, sudo -s will give you a root shell02:20
ColonelKernelqt2, doesnt cause them in other distros02:20
qt2ColonelKernel: and that using sudo instead might solve the errors you're getting? :o02:20
Bartimaeusmsg/ crimsun I dont know how02:20
thiagocrimsun: did you run what you pasted?02:21
qt2ColonelKernel: ubuntu isnt other distros.02:21
thiagocrimsun: I mean, exactly02:21
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crimsunthiago, no, I added the "==> "02:21
ColonelKernelqt2, not really, since im trying to run a program I just compile as root, in the /root directory.02:21
linuxjeffColonelKernel: the root account isn't disabled in other distros and ubuntu is not other distros. It is ubuntu02:21
hyperactivecrond!code of conduct02:21
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, hyperactivecrond02:21
thiagocrimsun: can you run "nm -D" instead of "ls", please? :-)02:21
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qt2ColonelKernel: the ubuntu devs have gone though painstaking measures to have you specifically NOT use root.02:21
ColonelKernelMy root account isnt disabled.02:21
cevizogluColonelKernel, so you're saying if you want to run gedit, and you type sudo gedit, nothing happens?02:21
tylotrigg: So that's what you suggest?02:21
crimsunthiago, 202:21
ColonelKernelcevizoglu, that is correct02:22
thiagocrimsun: hmm... interesting02:22
cevizogluColonelKernel, do you have a gui running?02:22
qt2ColonelKernel: you broke sudo. :P02:22
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thiagocrimsun: can you remove the -c (in grep) and tell me which those 2 lines are?02:22
qt2well, assuming you're running in x. :P02:22
linuxjeffColonelKernel: Paste /etc/sudoers at www.pastebin.com02:22
nixiacqt2:  When I ran KDE, and used KIIIB, every update would wipe out all my user preferences, and settings, and blow my mind, because the blockage wans't in the CDRECORD, nor, in the permissions in USERS/GROUPS, but, it was blocked in the settings file for the front end application... Can you work with that, and figure out where your settings are getting changed, and lock the file down?02:22
triggtylo: probably easier than beating your head against the wall as it is now. . .I personally like CrossOver, but it isn't free. . .02:22
evianColonelKernel that should work, it does for me02:22
ColonelKernelcevizoglu, yes, I have Gnome up and running, this is when I open up a terminal , and log in as root.02:22
Bartimaeus02:22
crimsunthiago,  U XauDisposeAuth   U XauGetBestAuthByAddr02:22
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thiagocrimsun: it's missing two symbols. Thanks.02:23
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cevizogluColonelKernel, have you tried NOT logging in as root and then using sudo?02:23
tylotrigg: Alright. Thanks for the help.02:23
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Bartimaeuscan anyone help me install java02:23
triggtylo, sorry I could be more. . . good luck02:23
crimsunBartimaeus, it's easy. Install the java-package from multiverse, download a JRE/JDK, and run java-package with it.02:24
tylotrigg: No problem. Thanks.02:24
qt2nixiac: i'm a nub, i wouldnt know what to do. :P02:24
skrewdriverhi guys, i'm a newbie, trying to compile a driver but having problems with make. can anyone help?02:24
thiagonow, can someone with another version of Ubuntu that is not Breezy run the same command? (nm -D /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 | grep -c Xau)02:24
epilocIf i disable DHCP on my router, will any machines on the network lose their current leases?02:24
crimsunepiloc, no02:24
KnelixAhh.. But I can't get the nice XFCE window borders in Gnome....02:24
linuxjeffepiloc: no, but when the leases expore, you are out of luck02:24
lgctrigg, linner: now it's working. Thanks!02:24
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ColonelKernelcevizoglu, considering the program im trying to run is in its own subdir in the /root dir, and just got compiled as root, i figured I would just stick with the root login I was currently using02:24
crimsunBartimaeus, please do not message me.02:24
cevizogluColonelKernel, that's what sudo -s is for02:24
Bartimaeuscrimsun, plz help me02:25
epilocright02:25
epilocok, time to try again02:25
crimsunBartimaeus, I just gave you instructions.02:25
crimsunBartimaeus, you're continuing to message me. Please stop that.02:25
epilocOk, getting a new error02:26
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Bartimaeusu stop to then02:26
epilocNo DHCP or BOOTP offers received02:26
crimsunBartimaeus, it's much easier to address me in the channel02:26
Bartimaeusso why dont u do the same?02:26
trigglgc - no problem02:26
evianColonelKernel: try some standard program, does that launch as root?02:26
crimsunBartimaeus, ...I am.02:26
ColonelKernelscrew it, I wont use su anymore02:26
ColonelKernelthanks02:26
Bartimaeusthen why is it showing up red02:27
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Bartimaeusisnt that what /msg does?02:27
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crimsunBartimaeus, no. The red is nick-highlighting.02:27
Bartimaeushow do you do that02:27
Bartimaeusim sorry about the msging02:27
epilocyou type their name02:27
Bartimaeusis that it?02:27
crimsunI address you with your nick, prefaced at the beginning of the line.02:27
tristanmikeBartimaeus, is this line red?02:27
epiloccrimsun, I am getting a new error now...  making progress :)02:28
Bartimaeusyes02:28
Psylohi, im trying to intall vegastrike and ./configure says "error: *** Python version 2.2 or later not found!" but version 2.4 is installed what can i do?02:28
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Bartimaeusoh, ok02:28
Jan-Why was the decision made to not have a root account in ubuntu02:28
bimberiBartimus - and this line isn't red because of a typo :)02:28
_jasondoes anyone know how to make the applet background transparent in gnome?02:28
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crimsunepiloc, what error?02:28
tristanmikeBartimaeus, so you should use "Tab" to fill the name to avoid typos02:28
Bartimaeusso could you plz tell me how to get the java pacage from mutiverse, even tho ive been a complete a hole?02:29
epiloccrimsun, "no dhcp or bootp offers received"02:29
nixiacqt2: Try going over to the ubuntu (you ARE running a newly installed Hoary, right?), "System",  >administration>Synaptic Package Manager and >search "k3b".02:29
tristanmikeBartimaeus, ie...bart<tab> spell your name02:29
qt2nixiac: i have k3b installed.02:29
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tristanmike!tell Bartimaeus about java02:30
crimsunBartimaeus, enable the multiverse repository. Download a JRE/JDK from Sun/IBM/Blackdown. Run make-jpkg with the downloaded JRE/JDK as the argument.02:30
Fyawerxis there a specific channel for breezy?02:30
crimsunFyawerx, no.02:30
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nixiacqt2: Kewl, now go to K#B>Settings and do them again?02:30
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Bartimaeuscrimsun, cool, thanks02:30
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machadohi all02:30
Fyawerxfigured i'd try a dist upgrade and see what happened ;)02:30
Psyloim trying to intall vegastrike and ./configure says "error: *** Python version 2.2 or later not found!" but version 2.4 is installed what can i do?02:31
crimsunFyawerx, we pretty much field help for warty, hoary, and breezy at this point.02:31
machadohow can i update my 5.04 in 5.10?02:31
Fyawerxcrimsun: thanks02:31
bimberimachado: yes02:31
crimsunPsylo, you need python2.4-dev and python-dev02:31
bimberiubotu tell machado about upgrade2breezy02:31
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threadanybody update to breezy and lose their synaptic touchpad driver?02:31
threadit fails to find my touchpad02:31
machadobtkx02:32
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linnerthread:  it found mine02:32
BlueEaglethread: It fails to find it or it doesn't load a driver for it?02:32
threadfails to find it02:32
threadthe synaptic driver fails to load02:32
linnerthread:  mine was a fresh install02:32
BlueEaglethread: it is gone from lspci?02:32
Fyawerxbotu tell fyawerx about upgrade2breezy02:32
djjasonHas anyone also had this problem. When I open up e.g. the "home" folder some of the content e.g. subfolders are partially hidden becuase the "go behind the left border/edge" of the window. I am viewing the files as icons, not as a list. Is this a known problem in gnome or?02:32
epiloccan anyone help me setup my dhcp.conf?02:33
qt2nixiac: ehh? i'm not having problems with cd burning... i'm having problems getting a cd to mount automatically when i insert it in the cdrom drive o.O;02:33
Fyawerxubotu tell fyawerx about upgrade2breezy02:33
hyperactivecrond!tell Fyawerx about upgrade2breezy02:33
Fyawerxyep, got it, missed the u the first time :)02:33
threadI don't see it in lspci, but I don't remember seeing it there before02:33
nixiacSo, my apt-get dist-upgrade made Hoary 5.04 into something with kernel 2.6.10-2-10-k7, so is I into some new area of Ubuntu, not Hoary???02:33
BlueEaglethread: Where did you see it then?02:33
bimberiFyawerx: "/msg ubotu upgrade2breezy" also works02:33
triggqt2: do you have hald installed?02:33
bimberi:)02:33
Psylocrimson, worked! thx02:33
Fyawerxcool, thanks02:34
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threadlinner, BlueEagle: tpconfig detects it perfectly02:34
threadjust... the x log says it can't find it02:34
crimsunnixiac, "2.6.10-2-10-k7"?02:34
threadthe x driver isn't working somehow02:34
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Penguinhello02:34
BlueEaglethread: Which driver is it trying to load for it?02:34
liz4rdhi02:34
threadsynaptics_drv.o ?02:34
Penguinjust wanna say that ubuntu fecking rock my balls and that I'm happely using it for like 5 months now02:35
BlueEaglelet me rephrase: Which device is it using?02:35
liz4rdPenguin, word02:35
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Penguinword?02:35
Bartimaeuscrimsun, is it a jre/jdk package in the multiverse repository?02:35
threadBlueEagle: /dev/psaux02:35
nixiacI screwed up the kernel numbers... crimsun... in a sec. but, gotta figure out that qt2 has noauto in his fstab, but I lost that line and gotta find it...02:35
crimsunBartimaeus, no.02:35
liz4rdPenguin, lol i was agreeing with you02:35
Penguinah ok ^^02:35
Bartimaeuscrimsun, oh, how do iget it then?02:36
BlueEaglethread: ...and is that the correct device? (ie. the same device as it used before)02:36
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crimsunBartimaeus, you use a Web browser and navigate to Sun's or IBM's Web site and download one02:36
threadBlueEagle: Yes. same as my old xorg.conf02:36
Bartimaeuscrimsun, its just called a jre/jdk?02:36
triggBartimaeus: http://www.java.com/en/02:36
BlueEaglethread: cat /dev/psaux and use your touchpad. If you get lots of characters then it's the right device. If not you might want to look for another device that produces output.02:36
threadBlueEagle: it is the right device02:37
qt2trigg: i do... i think o.O;02:37
threadit's just not being detected as a synaptic touchpad02:37
liz4rdtrigg, isnt it apt-get jre and jsdk or w.e02:37
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BlueEaglethread: Well, you said that it loaded a driver fine, right?02:37
liz4rdtrigg, dont know the full package names02:37
threadno02:37
BlueEaglethread: ie tpconfig found it.02:37
threadBlueEagle: that's the driver it should be using02:37
Bartimaeustrigg, is it just the main file you download?02:37
triggliz4rd: you can install the jre in breezy, but is an older version.02:37
threadtpconfig doesn't have anything to do with xorg's synaptic_drv.o driver, does it??02:38
liz4rdoh02:38
Bartimaeustrigg, i am using hoary02:38
liz4rddidnt know that02:38
triggBartimaeus: yep.02:38
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liz4rdi wish we where as current as gentoo users02:38
liz4rd:P02:38
Bartimaeustrigg, so what do i do with the file now?02:38
triggliz4rd: the hoary-backports have the most recent version02:38
threadBlueEagle: ldd tpconfig reveals that it doesn't have jack to do with x02:38
liz4rdoh02:38
sorush20I want to be able to make a number of webpages into one document, eg, pdf, I'm trying to do this manually copying and pasting every page into the same document, then there is a problem, I want the links in the html to be directed to with in the document rather than to the browser, is there there an automatic way of doing this..02:38
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BlueEagleliz4rd: Why? Which features are you missing?02:38
triggBartimaeus: make-jpkg file02:38
liz4rdwell xfce4-4.2.2 i dont get all the toys and such just base02:39
Bartimaeusdo i substitute something with file?02:39
nixiacqt2: I lost your fstab line... looking and cannot find what you posted... but, is there 'noauto' in there?02:39
BlueEaglethread: Well, if you can make it work in console you should be able to make it work in X. Now, since tpconfig detects that it is a device it probably is so. The best guess I've got is that it's been moved in the /dev tree.02:39
triggBartimaeus: you have the tar.gz file, right?02:39
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Bartimaeustrigg, no the bin02:39
BlueEaglethread: If you've already tried other possible devices there please tell me now. If not please tell me that you don't appreciate my attempts to help you.02:40
Bartimaeustrigg, is that bad?02:40
lgctrigg,  can I ask you some more?02:40
triggBartimaeus: no that's fine, use the bin file02:40
BlueEaglejees.02:40
trigglgc: go ahead02:40
Fyawerxhmm, well, think im all upgraded02:40
epiloccrimsun: can you help me set up a basic dhcp server?02:40
epilocim looking through the dhcp.conf file02:40
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Bartimaeustrigg, it gave me "bash: make-jpkg: command not found02:41
threadBlueEagle: I've tried /dev/input/mice .... cat /dev/psaux does produce output when I move my touchpad02:41
threadBlueEagle: there just seems to be something wrong with x's ability to properly identify my touchpad02:41
threadSynaptics Touchpad no synaptics event device found (checked 2 nodes)02:41
thread(EE) Synaptics Touchpad no synaptics touchpad detected and no repeater device02:41
thread(EE) Synaptics Touchpad Unable to query/initialize Synaptics hardware.02:41
nixiacqt2: Didja see auto or noauto, in your fstab for the /media/cdrom0 ?02:41
triggBartimaeus: apt-get install java-package02:41
benkong2I got a beagle setup problem can someone tell me what this means? http://pastebin.com/37636602:41
lgctrigg,  why is it that, during the install I saw gcc and g++ flash before my eyes (which means they were being installed) but they are nowhere to be found!02:41
Bartimaeustrigg, ok02:41
BlueEaglethread: Well, try using a generic driver for it in xorg.conf02:41
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qt2nixiac: noauto.02:42
trigglgc: not sure - try installing build-essential02:42
threadBlueEagle: what you mean? my touchpad is working right now... I want to use the synaptics driver02:42
qt2nixiac: let me guess, that's the problem? :P02:42
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Aragorn_Guardianhi all02:42
qt2nixiac: /dev/hdb        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660     ro,user,noauto                    0   002:42
qt2nixiac: to be precise02:42
lgctrigg, apt-get install build-essential?02:42
crimsunepiloc, apt-get install dhcp3-server02:42
trigglgc: yep, should work02:43
BlueEaglethread: I see. This is a kernel driver, right?02:43
Penguinwhat a support in here, and I was amezed by the forum, this is really a dream or what ^^02:44
threadBlueEagle: the synaptics_drv.o of which I speak came with x, and resides in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input02:44
epiloccrimsun: done02:44
crimsunthread, did it work under Hoary?02:44
vcg3rdWierd bootloader issue. Installed 5.04 on hdb1.  It recognized Mepis on hdb3 as Debian 3.1 when installing Grub.  Yet when I finish the install it list hdb3 as memtest in menu and if I click it it actually starts a memtest, but Mepis is still there on hdb302:44
threadcrimsun: yes it did02:44
nixiacCrimsun:  My kernel seems to have updated to 2.6.10-2-k7, this is good? and, it is HOARY?02:44
crimsunepiloc, now modify the conffile02:44
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linnertrigg:  may I pm you?02:45
crimsunnixiac, no.02:45
lgctrigg, it's ticking...done! g++ works already. But what's the magic? What packages were built?02:45
epiloccrimsun: yes, this is the confusing part02:45
crimsunnixiac, Hoary has 2.6.10-5-k702:45
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nixiacqt2, ever used VI to edit a file?02:45
qt2nixiac: nope, i've only used nano...02:45
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crimsunepiloc, what's confusing?02:45
trigglinner, sure, lgc, what packages are you trying to build?02:45
epiloccrimsun: want me to paste what i have in the dhcpd.conf so far?02:45
Bartimaeustrigg, im sorry, but what do i do when ive done that? make-jpkg file?02:45
crimsunepiloc, I thought you already pasted it02:46
cr4x0ri have a question...when ubuntu 5.10 is released is there a way to apt-get upgrade to the new system or is it better to use the cd?02:46
epiloccrimsun: yes, but it did not work02:46
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threadI'm so stumped on this. I upgraded to breezy earlier today, and I've been bangin my head about this touchpad issue for hours02:46
epiloccrimsun: i need to establish the subnet, range etc...02:46
crimsuncr4x0r, using apt-get/aptitude/synaptic will do the same thing installing from a CD will02:46
triggBartimaeus: you should have a new .deb file02:46
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nixiacI do not know nano, but, use what ever is cool for lyou, to edit your etc/fstab and change to 'auto'...02:46
Bartimaeustrigg, where?02:46
epiloccrimsun: not sure exactly how to do this but slowly hacking away at it02:46
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triggBartimaeus: in the directory that you are in.02:46
lgctrigg, I got g** working, thanks, but I don't know what does "build-essential" comprise.02:46
sorush20how do I restart my hotplug system just the printing part not any other part02:46
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Bartimaeustrigg, and do i replace file with anything?02:47
cr4x0rcrimsun: i just have to change the repositories?02:47
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crimsunepiloc, what you pasted at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2597 is sufficient02:47
crimsuncr4x0r, if you're running warty or hoary now, yes.02:47
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trigglgc: it's a meta-package - not sure what all it contains02:47
cr4x0rcrimsun: ok, thank you02:47
eviantylo and crimsun: I went into the volume control and unmuted the microphone, now I can hear everything I speak echoed to me (with no app like skype even running.) And I can hear beeps in the terminal.02:47
lgctrigg, hmmm...02:48
triggBartimaeus: sud dpkg -i jre_1.5.deb  (or whatever it is called)02:48
evianif I pull out the headset I get feedback02:48
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nixiacqt2:  BEFORE we edit a file, especially the FSTAB, we do a back up of it, so we can repair back to a bootable stage... I once accidently removed the first letter of the first sentence, and got lost in confused swampiness...02:48
Bartimaeusok02:48
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trigglgc: apt-cache showpkg build-essential02:48
crimsunevian, so mute the mic.02:48
qt2nixiac: i know about backing up...02:48
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lgctrigg, let me see...02:49
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eviancrimsun, that doesn't stop it02:49
nixiacqt2: you ain't no nub... or, you slept in a Residence Inn last nite...02:49
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qt2nixiac: i know the basics. :02:50
qt2:P02:50
triggBartimaeus: that should have been sudo, not sud ;)02:50
crimsunevian, paste output from the following onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl: cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer02:50
nixiacqt2: I once know trhe basics, but, amd aging and seem to have misplaced them...02:50
lgctrigg, it seems to be just C-related stuff.02:50
KnelixThe window menu icon for panel is too small.. it doesn't scale up like the rest of the icons...02:50
Bartimaeustrigg, ya, i figured02:50
qt2nixiac: heh.02:50
eviancrimsun: ok but give me a minute..02:50
lgctrigg, are you running Breezy?02:51
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Bartimaeustrigg, it gives me"dpkg: error processing jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.deb (--install):02:51
Bartimaeus cannot access archive: No such file or directory02:51
BartimaeusErrors were encountered while processing:02:51
Bartimaeus jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.deb02:51
Bartimaeus"02:51
trigglgc: look at the reverse dependcies . . . and yes, running Breezy02:51
epiloccrimsun: what must i do to start the dhcp server?  my machine still isnt grabbing an IP02:51
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packman_ehello all02:51
linnerhey guys, now I have a question... I've tried installing the NDISwrapper for my (don't pull your hair out now) broadcom wlan for my Compaq V2000Z.  I've been following the instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper and am stuck at line 5.   I don't see the wlan0 in my Sys -> Admin -> Networking spot.02:51
lgctrigg, did you have any problem updating?02:52
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triggBartimaeus: any other errors?02:52
linnerwhere do i go from here?02:52
Bartimaeusno02:52
crimsunepiloc, it's started when you install it. You need to restart it to apply your modifications.02:52
trigglgc: I did initially, but then after the Preview version came out, it worked fine.02:52
crimsunepiloc, you _are_ running the dhcp server on another machine, correct?02:52
cevizogluwhat is the name for the next ubuntu?02:52
epiloci am running it on this machine02:52
Bartimaeustrigg, none02:52
os2macLinner I don't think it will work...02:52
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os2macI tried all last night.02:52
nixiaclinner: you made progress!  an hour ago you were stuck at line 4!  Been there, done that, but, you did it quicker!02:52
linneros2mac:  you did????02:52
crimsunepiloc, "this" machine being the one you want to install Ubuntu on, or...?02:52
triggBartimaeus: are you running Breezy?02:53
linnernixiac:  *smile*  woo hoo!02:53
Bartimaeusno, hoary02:53
packman_ehey guys i don't suppose that anyone knows if the repositories in the ubuntuguide is changed or down because i get errors when i try to update them. any ideas please?02:53
linneros2mac:  what was your problem?02:53
triggBartimaeus, hmm, do you have the hoary-backports in your repository list?02:53
threadcrimsun: do you know anything about synaptic? why might it not work if tpconfig recognizes my synaptic tp just fine?02:53
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epiloccrimsun: no... 'this' machine as in the one i am talking to you on right now... i am running ubuntu on it already02:53
linnernixiac:  did you get it installed?02:53
jrattner1is there an "America's Army" ubuntu package?02:53
os2macwell I tried to use the appget functions to install NDISwrapper but it only installed the user tools02:53
cevizoglupackman_e, if it's down, try using a different mirror02:53
Bartimaeustrigg, what are those?02:53
eviancrimsun: ok I pasted it02:53
os2macit didn't install the kernel portion.02:53
os2macso I could load the driver .inf file but I couldn't use it.02:54
linneros2mac:  I think I'm okay on that part.  I'm not sure if it installed the kernel part. I'm not experienced enough to know how to find out.02:54
lgctrigg, I ask you that because I first tried to update from Hoary with catastrophic results, and then I tried to install from scratch, with just about the same outcome. I never got past the libgnome-common installation.02:54
packman_ecevizoglu, how do i go about that and where do i find them. i am just following the guide02:54
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os2macdid you try to install the .inf file from the command prompt.02:54
cevizoglu!tell packman_e about repositories02:54
linneros2mac:  It just dawned on me ... you have the same wlan on a mac???02:54
linneros2mac:  yes... and it took it just fine I thought.. per nalioth02:55
triggBartimaeus: check out this web page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports02:55
os2macno....02:55
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nixiacqt2: Funny, I got the DVD from Linux Magazine Issue 53, March 2005, and it had these checkboxes on the install starting script!  When I checked the LAN one, up ca\me a chooice of two forms of networking, and one was NDIS..... and I picked the Other choice!02:55
cevizoglupackman_e, what, you mean ubuntuguide?02:55
os2macI am not ON a mac I AM a mac.02:55
Bartimaeustrigg, ok02:55
packman_eyep02:55
trigglgc: the most recent install cd for Breezy seems to work well.02:55
crimsunevian, do you have an ~/.asoundrc or /etc/asound.conf ?02:55
linnernixiac:  where can i get that magazine????02:55
cevizoglupackman_e, it's best not to use ubuntuguide, I hear02:56
linnernixiac:  maybe that's what i need02:56
packman_ejust installed ubuntu 5.04 and going throught the guide02:56
packman_ewhy?02:56
lgctrigg, I got it last Friday. Did the ISO image change already?02:56
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benkong2woopie beagle is working...now to just get the indexing completed. Thanks all02:56
os2macI was able to install the bcmwl5.inf file as well .02:56
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eviancrimsun, yeah I have an /etc/asound.conf as specified by http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063&pp=10&highlight=Failed+construct+test+pipeline02:56
test34-!tell packman_e about ubuntuguide02:56
linnerlgc:  there are nightly builds02:56
os2macbut when I went to assign it to the card I couldn't figure out what the lspcid for the card was.02:56
trigglgc, I don't think so - but I was able to install from it just fine.  maybe you got a corrupted iso. . .02:56
crimsunthread, in /proc/bus/input/devices, do you see "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad" or "AlpsPS/2 ALPS Touchpad"?02:56
qt2nixiac: heh.02:56
cevizoglu!tell packman_e about ubuntuguide02:57
trigglgc, I have heard of it happening02:57
crimsunevian, kill it02:57
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cevizogluoops02:57
crimsunthen paste the output from amixer02:57
Bartimaeusgood bye all and thanks for your help02:57
linuxn00bguys i need help on running the live version of ubuntu02:57
nixiacI get mine at Border's books, but, this is Sept, and that was ISsue for March!  But, might be on Amazon.com, and They sell back issues! here is the URL: http://www.linux-magazine.com02:57
trigglgc, Bartimaeus - okay, all, gotta go - must make dinner later02:57
lgctrigg, no. The checksum was right, and I verified it yesterday.02:57
threadcrimsun: N: Name="SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad"02:57
linuxn00bi keep getting an error trying to load x02:57
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lgctrigg, thanks and till next time.02:57
trigglgc: later02:58
linuxn00bit says "could not be detected!" and "no screens found"02:58
linnernixiac:  then if you got it set up.... can you help me??? *wink wink wink*02:58
linner:)02:58
eviancrimsun, ok I removed it, now what? reboot?02:58
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packman_e!faq02:58
ubotusomebody said faq was The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/02:58
lgclinner, are you running Breezy?02:58
os2macyeah can you HELP US?/02:58
linnerlgc:  yes02:58
linnerlgc:  on a laptop02:58
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lgclinner, did you have trouble with libgnome-common?02:59
nixiacLinner: The base install, plus the Desktop and Fileserver options, seemed to do all the work!02:59
linnerlgc:  no the onlyproblems i had was with my ati card... but we got that fixed02:59
crimsunevian, no, just paste the output from amixer02:59
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linuxn00bis there any way for me to install ubuntu and edit the x config file so it'll run my video card?03:00
linnernixiac:  I didnt' see anything about desktop and fileserver options in here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper03:00
nixiacqt2: the Linux - Magazine has three issue subs, starting at any recent issue, it appears!  Or, you can order any archiveed issue, if still in stock....03:00
eviancrimsun, ok it might be working... at least beep media player started working03:00
lgclinner, hmmm. I thought mine was a more popular problem with Breezy.03:00
eviancrimsun, let me try skype now03:00
linnerlgc:  it might be... you're talking still about the touch pad right?03:00
crimsunthread, lsmod|grep ^evdev03:01
threadcrimsun: built into the kernel03:01
jroesis there any way to make emacs accept pastes from other apps?03:01
chris_i need help with my /etc/apt/sources.list in hoary, can anyone tell me what its supposed to look like?03:01
jroesI copied something in Firefox and I want to paste it into emacs, but it won't work :/03:01
linnerlgc:  i was on the phone for a while and wasn't paying much attention to the channel until a few minutes ago03:01
nixiacBoth Debian, and Ubuntu, that I have installed this past week, about four times each, have an apparently identical install process!03:01
chris_(total f'n newbie03:01
lgclinner, no. I never had trouble with it.03:01
HrdwrBoBnixiac: that's not a coincidence :)03:01
linnerlgc:  i'm sorry then... what were you referring to?03:01
jroesnixiac: Ubuntu is based off of Debian03:01
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crimsunthread, err, self-compiled kernel?03:02
threadcrimsun: yes03:02
lgclinner, I was saying that I couldn't install Breezy because I never got past libgnome-common03:02
crimsunthread, boot into 2.6.12-9.18 and try again03:02
nixiacWell, the OTHER 295 distros that are Debian based have all kinds of installers, some thatseem weird!03:02
epilocStarting DHCP server: dhcpd3 failed to start - check syslog for diagnostics.03:02
linnerlgc:  ok... i'm sorry i misunderstood... yeah which version of breezy do you have?03:02
threadcrimsun: I tried that03:02
threadcrimsun: I will do it again, however... brb03:03
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linnerlgc:  i tried the amd64 because I have a turion64 chip... won't fly at all... then i downloaded the i386 version.03:03
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crimsunthread, is Load "synaptic" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf?03:03
cevizoglunixiac, why change the debian installer when it already works?03:03
crimsunthread, sorry, Load "synaptics"03:03
lgclinner, 5.10 for i38603:03
linnerlgc:  absolutely no problems minus the ati driver which we fixed with the VESA driver03:03
linnerlgc:  yeah that's what i'm using03:03
linnerlgc:  what laptop do you have?03:03
nixiacI do know that I am very impressed, having come down the LONG & WINDING ROAD rom some of those, to UBUNTU!03:03
lgclinner, I have a Dell Inspiron 6000.03:04
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linnerlgc:  have you been here:  http://www.linux-laptop.net/03:04
lgclinner, no. What's there to see?03:04
bimberinixiac: you too :)03:04
linnerlgc:  here's another one specific for your laptop:  http://clydefrog.plus.com/~rob/inspiron6000.php03:04
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Spermite /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_clip.0": No symbols found any ideas how i fix this03:05
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eviancrimsun, it isn't working in skype yet, but maybe it is close. but unfortunately it is time for me to have my weekly skype chat with my sister, so I will have to reboot into windows for that. Thanks for your help, maybe I'll catch you later.03:05
Fitzsimmonsif I install from the preview release will it just come up to date with the stable release via apt when stable uh... goes stable?03:05
lgclinner, I'm looking at it. Interesting...03:05
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linnerlgc:  yeah there are several entries for your model03:05
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nixiaclinner: I thought that the VESA driver is the OLDER video standard, and actully, if I want really good resolution, etc. from a Linux listed peice of video hardware, then, I should use the driver for that piece of listed hardware... such as an Nvidia card driver, instead of the VESA driver, but, mayhap some Xpert can chime in?03:06
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bimberiFitzsimmons: yes03:06
fmasihow do i instal ooo 1.9.130 ?? in the reps i found only 1.9.7303:07
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linnernixiac:  I have a very, very new laptop and my particular card.. the ati 200m, can't run anything including a radeon driver... it has to use the VESA03:07
threadcrimsun: Linux thread 2.6.12-9-386 #1 Mon Sep 26 23:17:39 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux03:07
cevizoglufmasi, very carefully03:07
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linnernixiac:  it's not perfect... such as I can't standby or hibernate with out serious problems... but crap, as long as I can run linux instead of windows I'm a happy camper03:08
Hydrogendo I need to do any special magic to get a xorg display on :2?03:08
fmasicevizoglu what do you mean by very carefully03:08
nixiacbimberi: FreeBSD, Caldera, Storm Linux, and Red Hat 5.1, in 1997... when the Evil Empire strated to flunk out on us... and we started to gather together those 'curbside donations' and cast-offs...03:08
linnernixiac:  i just need my wireless card to work so that i can work remotely at my client sitesw03:08
linnersites03:08
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epilocwhere is the syslog for DCHP3 ?03:08
hajaHow can I install True Type Fonts in Ubuntu?03:09
crimsunepiloc, /var/log/daemon.log03:09
crimsunhaja, enable multiverse and install msttcorefonts03:09
hajathanks03:09
crimsunthread, post your /var/log/Xorg.0.log03:09
cevizoglufmasi, hard to explain03:09
linnernixiac:  that's why I was asking for your help in getting it up and running03:09
bimberinixiac: :), that's a longer journey than mine - which started in about '99 - RH603:09
threadcrimsun: gladly03:09
shawnzdoes anyone have a moto4lin deb?03:09
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threadcrimsun: http://quicken.ath.cx/Xorg.0.log03:09
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fmasicevizoglu, is ther enny whay to instal in like i normly instal the 1.9.73 ????03:10
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linnernixiac:  re: using the VESA driver, do you understand now why it works?03:10
crimsunthread, you're using the wrong Synaptics driver03:10
nixiacThis has a nVidia M64, TNT2, RIVA, 32Mb ram, but, it IS a desktop cobbled together from salvage...  Unfortunately, the 'nVidia card' is actually a version built by Pine (which might have been a garage start-up, in Taiwan...03:10
threadcrimsun: really??03:11
bob832hello everyone . . . just installed ubuntu today and must say that i like it03:11
threadcrimsun: I thought there was only one03:11
epiloccrimsun: any ideas why i cant restart my dhcp server?03:11
shawnzbob832, yes, everyone always does03:11
bimberibob832: good to hear :)03:11
bimberiread even :P03:11
crimsunthread, dpkg -l xorg-driver-synaptics|grep ^ii03:11
linnernixiac:  right on... and because it's a desktop already it's an easier workaround :)03:11
nixiaclinner: yeah, been there. VESA is great for my servers, or, when I don't really know what it is, and the installer selects it forme... anything to get up!03:11
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threadcrimsun: ii  xorg-driver-synaptics 0.14.3+revertedto+0.13.6-0ubuntu3 Synaptics TouchPad driver for X.Org server03:11
linnernixiac:  exactly dude!03:11
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davebob832: installed it a week ago, its great :)03:12
cevizoglufmasi, I'm not experienced enough to answer you on that one, so I won't give you bad advice03:12
crimsunthread, and I presume you have Load "synaptics" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf?03:12
nixiacGads!  I gotta drink O'Douls, (non-alcoholic- just turned diabetic...)03:12
bob832quick question though  :)   is it possible to change it so that the master volumn control up by the clock controls the PCM volumn?03:12
crimsunthread, dpkg seems to be saying the right thing03:12
fmasicevizoglu , whith ooo do you have ?03:13
cevizoglucevizoglu, which what?03:13
cevizogluoops03:13
crimsunbob832, right-click > Preferences03:13
cevizoglus/cevizoglu/fmasi03:13
bimberibob832: right-click on the control and select preferences03:13
threadcrimsun: in the Modules section? I didn't have to do that before03:13
crimsunthread, just check if it's present03:13
shawnzhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2599 << Any idea what is going wrong there?03:13
cafuego_bob832: What happened to the other 830?03:13
lgclinner, it seems this guy tweaked everything to get his lap working. I'm lucky in that almost everything seems to work, except for the "eject" key and the multimedia buttons. But I don't think he addresses this. There's someoneelse who does, though.03:13
threadcrimsun: no, I don't have a Load "synaptics"03:14
crimsunthread, (it should be)03:14
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bob832that simple huh?  i thought i would be editing files and such03:14
SuperLagAny of you guys had issues just doing s/hoary/breezy in sources.list and upgrading that way?03:14
bob832cafuego:  the number is the time when i first registered my irc nick  :-)03:14
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cevizoglufmasi, I recommend you find some info on how to create your own package from a source build, etc.03:14
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fmasicevizoglu ok03:15
threadcrimsun: only the mouse device's section has Driver "synaptics"03:15
cevizoglufmasi, if you can't find a .deb which works03:15
cafuego_bbo830: Thursday 01 January, 1970 10:13:52?03:15
bob832thanks for the help, that did it03:15
crimsunthread, hmm, that should suffice03:15
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threadcrimsun: what were you saying about a wrong driver?03:15
linnerlgc: yeah.... there are a LOT of other posts for your model... check 'em out... there's bound to be a solution03:15
threadcrimsun: there is only one synaptics driver03:15
threadcrimsun: and it's not detecting my touchpad03:16
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lgclinner, I hope so. But I still hope the issue gets solved once the official Breezy release is made.03:16
bob832i must say (not bashing here) but for the past several months i've been using fedora and i cannot believe how easy that was to change the volumn control03:16
nixiacOn my third session of "Law and Order on the cable, here, and have three other computers to look at, so gotta go and play with them,, also have 15 to assemble, trying to finish my Beowulf Cluster... then, rewire the house for lthe new power drain..."03:16
crimsunthread, there's a separate, newer one that caused problems and was reverted.03:17
lgclinner, that is, if it is an issue, at all...03:17
crimsunthread, hence the package version03:17
EarthenI got a problem! I rebooted into windows (duel boot) just to get something (first time in weeks) and when i rebooted back into Ubuntu, now there is something using 100% of my CPU every 3-4 seconds for about a second! anyone have any idea's please03:17
linnerlgc:  you're not the only one dude... I've got problems with my time clock, my wlan, and watching multimedia... so I'm lookin' for some serious resolution too03:17
threadcrimsun: right... the name of the package I have says 'reverted' as you say03:17
linnerlgc:  if you have it, it's an issue03:17
epilocsweet!, dhcp finally workin!  on to a new error :(03:17
cafuego_Earthen: run 'top' to see what it is.03:17
Earthencafuego, what is top03:17
bimberibob832: i'd love to be able to assure that all tweaks are that easy :)03:18
cafuego_Earthen: Something you should run.03:18
cafuego_(See man top)03:18
lgclinner, but only if many have the same problem does the problem get addressed...03:18
cevizoglu#join mac03:18
linnerlgc:  right now i see only one drawback to linux as opposed to windows... drivers.... that's it.......... the program subsitutions, imho, are superior to most of the win commercial ver.... and the stability without question is superior to all other OS's I've used03:18
cevizogluoops03:18
cafuego_lgc: No, only if a bug is filed.03:18
bob832i sure there are more diffcult ones but i'm surprised how easy that one was   lol03:18
nixiacOn my third session of "Law and Order on the cable, here, and have three other computers to look at, so gotta go and play with them,, also have 15 to assemble, trying to finish my Beowulf Cluster... then, rewire the house for lthe new power drain..."ps"03:18
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Earthencafuego, man i'm running system monitor and it looks like a heart beat monitor03:18
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linnerlgc:  not necessarily... i understand developers visit this channel too and note problems that have yet to be resolved...03:19
nixiachey, try 'ps' besides "top"03:19
linnercafuego:  hello :)03:19
locomortolinner: that and games03:19
cafuego_bob832: The aim of Ubuntu is to make Linux a decent desktop system, for end users. So if there *is* anything that's not easy, it should be addressed and *made* easy.03:19
locomortolinner: there are a few good ones03:19
bob832i'm attempting to switch over to linux from windows and right now, i'm just trying out different "flavors" of linux03:19
cafuego_linner: morning03:19
locomortolinner: but overall theres not a huge selection03:19
bob832cafuego:  glad to hear it03:19
hyperactivecrondbob832, use ubuntu :)03:19
linnerlocomorto:  i'm not a gamer :(03:19
lgclinner, that's right. But my Win-doze purrs like a kitty, and my Linux has frozen my lap a few tens of times...03:20
locomortolinner: really?03:20
locomortolinner: then love linux03:20
bob832so far, i'm really loving it03:20
cafuego_bob832: SO if you ome across something that ought be easy when it's not, file a bug on the package :-)03:20
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locomortobob832: do what I do03:20
bob832and i have only had it on my systme for a few hours03:20
locomortobob832: Burn the windows CDs and Box03:20
Earthencafuego, it says Xorg using about 17% thats it03:20
cevizoglulgc: do you mean windows makes your laptop too hot? lol03:20
hyperactivecrondbob832, http://eedok.voidofmind.com/linux/chooser.html03:20
othernoobcafuego_: is that what bug reports are there for these days?03:20
lgccafuego, are you talking bugzilla?03:20
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cafuego_bob832: Next month, when you can upgrade to breezy, you'll find a lot of additions that make life easier.03:20
cafuego_lgc: yep03:20
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shawnzhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2599 << Any idea what is going wrong there?03:21
othernoobcafuego_: i'm sure people will appreciate bug reports on how people are too dumb to use something....03:21
cafuego_othernoob: Bugs can have a 'wishlist' status. If a developer isn't told what the user wants from their software, it will probably never get done, eh?03:21
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nixiacbob832: Most of lus who aren't programmers, and prolly a few of them too, did what you are doing... but, with 387 Different Open Source distros monitored by Distrowatch.com, I found that it wasthree years before I got HERE, to ubuntu.03:21
othernoobcafuego_: that's what feedback is for, not bugreports..03:22
cafuego_othernoob: There is a difference between users being too dumb and software being too convoluted.03:22
sagarpwhen i use GDM, my scrollwheel/sidebuttons get confused...but when i do startx, the ywork fine...i tried with zaxismapping set to "4 5" and also with "6 7" and in GDM, they both dont work right03:22
cafuego_othernoob: No, that's what wishlist bugs are for.03:22
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bob832hyperactivecrond:  went through the chooser, and ubtuntu came up first  lol03:22
locomortoshawnz: its looks like your using the Qt4 not Qt3 headers03:22
crimsunthread, sounds like you've been bitten by http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1518203:22
donsmithquick question03:22
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Earthencafuego, any more idea's03:22
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hyperactivecrondbob832, it always does scroll down03:22
lgccevizoglu, I haven't used my Win-doze that much. I only use it to watch the MediaPlayer...:) (On Linux I haven't been able. The Totem does't seem to work with anything)..03:22
hajaAfter installing msttcorefonts, how can I add my own fonts? Do I just put them in /usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts?03:22
bob832oh03:22
othernoobcafuego_: either way, quite a way to tell a non-linux user what to do when he encounters problems..03:22
cafuego_Earthen: Nothing showed? Is there a cd or dvd in your drive?03:23
donsmithwhen I'm trying to update with synaptic it freezes on configuring packages, I think it's stuck on the x packages03:23
bob832ubtuntu is the second distro i've tried from the linux world03:23
linnerlocomorto:  yeah, I'm sorry I'm back... had a phone call03:23
shawnzlocomorto, so how do I get it to work right is the question? =p03:23
Earthencafuego_, no no cd's or dvd's03:23
locomortocafuego_: sudo fdisk -l?03:23
cevizoglulgc: you have to install a multitude of codecs until it works  :(03:23
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pschulz01Greetings.. can anyone explain to me the best way of using a new version 'autoconf and friends under Ubuntu?03:23
cafuego_othernoob: No, that's not what it is about. The user can be helped here, but they can ALSO be told that if they'd like the software to work differnetly, they should tell the developer.03:23
locomortoshawnz: get rid of the Qt4-dev files and ensure you have the Qt3-devs03:23
shawnzok03:23
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hajaAfter installing msttcorefonts, how can I add my own fonts? Do I just put them in /usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts?03:23
malikmh. i need gthread-2.0. cant find the corresponding package. any hints?03:24
lgccevizoglu, isn't there an easier way?03:24
cafuego_haja: mkdir ~/.fonts; the copy the .ttf files to there.03:24
linnerlgc:  I understand about the freezing... it took a solid 7 days for me to get ubuntu on my laptop.... and really, I was working like 16 hours a day on it... so you have to be determined and realize the FIXES ARE OUT THERE... so keep pluggin' away if you really want it.03:24
Earthencafuego_, Xorg is going up and down from about 15% - 30% that about it03:24
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TedytuFcada canal que abre, ta abrindo uma nova janela como conserto isso??03:24
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linnercafuego:  i'm sure you suspected this... but my time is still off :(03:24
cafuego_haja: and run "xset fp rehash: to make the fonts available.03:24
threadcrimsun: nice! ... he explains a solution, I'm gonna follow it right now and let you know how it goes03:24
cafuego_linner: Did you do the crontab thing?03:24
The_Voxhaja: stick them in ~/.fonts and it'll work for that one user.03:24
cevizoglulgc: it's not too hard, just a few searches and apt-gets03:24
epiloccrimsun: TFTP error - file not found03:24
linnercafuego:  crontab???03:24
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pschulz01I'm looking am looking at writing some software and 'automake' is at version 1.4-p6. There is a version 1.9 available.03:25
crimsunepiloc, that means you didn't configure the pxe files correctly03:25
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donsmithwhen I'm trying to update breezy with synaptic it freezes on configuring packages, I think it's stuck on the x packages03:25
TedytuFcada canal que abre, ta abrindo uma nova janela como conserto isso??03:25
Earthencafuego_ is there a way to make it update faster03:25
lgclinner, I love Linux already.  The only other use for Win-doze I had is to write letters with Word (and that was before Open Office).03:25
cafuego_linner: Ok, remove ntp-simple. We'll add a call to 'ntpdate' in cron, so it runs every 30 minutes.03:25
crimsunpschulz01, so aptitude install automake1.903:25
cevizoglulgc, mplayer works better for avi's though IMO03:25
os2macWHOOT wlann working03:25
hyperactivecrondTedytuF, /join #ubuntu-es03:25
pschulz01OK.. done that..03:25
linnercafuego:  oh thank you!03:25
cafuego_Earthen: top can only do once a second, afaik.03:25
locomortocevizoglu: vlc pwns mplayer03:25
linnerlgc:  I'm so happy to hear that!03:25
The_Voxhyperactivecrond: that's not spanish, it's portuguese, I think :)03:25
jrattner1Why isnt Banshee available in hoary03:25
os2macso is there a way to save my config in Ubuntu like in Knoppix.... to a thumb drive03:26
cafuego_linner: After you remove ntp-simple, run 'sudo crontab -e' - that will open up root's crontab file.03:26
hajathanks03:26
linnerlgc:  I'm already installing Breezy on 4 other computers this week... It's an easy sell!03:26
locomortolgc: have you tried openoffice 2?03:26
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nomasteryodalinner, sweet03:26
lgclinner, I come from the pre-linux era.03:26
locomortolgc: I find its really much much better then 103:26
hyperactivecrondTedytuF, hablas inglais?03:26
Earthencafuego_ ok dam what is doing it then, making my computer pause every few seconds even when i'm typing it stops03:26
linnercafuego:  forgive me... I don't know how to remove ntp-simple03:26
linnernomasteryoda:  :)  that's what I thought :)03:26
cevizoglulocomorto, vlc won't install on my ubuntu breezy ppc....03:26
linnerlgc:  you do?03:26
cafuego_Earthen: I don't know.03:26
lgclocomorto, I haven't is the apt update available?03:26
linnerlgc:  very, VERY cool :)03:26
epiloccrimsun: I configured them exactly how the wiki told me to03:27
nomasteryodalinner, i have breezy on 4 systems too03:27
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nomasteryodafor me that is03:27
cafuego_linner: 'sudo apt-get remove --purge ntp-simple'  (or use synaptic)03:27
linnernomasteryoda:  these are for other people03:27
linnercafuego:  ok03:27
nomasteryodaand have helped get friends up with it too03:27
pschulz01crimsun: I now need to set some environment variables for 'autoreconf', but I still get erros with aclocal macros.03:27
Earthencafuego_ this only happend after i boot into windows XP03:27
othernoobdoes anyone know of a mpc plugin for amarok?03:27
os2macanyone....03:27
cafuego_Earthen: Is there anything in 'dmesg' ?03:27
nomasteryodaone has brand new laptop with the snd-isa-intel sound driver issue... halts on booting03:27
os2macsaving config? like on Knoppix?03:27
crimsunepiloc, you can't follow the wiki _exactly_03:27
linnercafuego:  ok it's done03:27
os2macon the Ubuntu Live03:27
crimsunepiloc, a lot of things have changed03:27
cafuego_linner: Right, now 'sudo crontab -e'03:28
linnerok03:28
crimsunepiloc, that's why I said the basics on that wiki page are helpful, not the wiki page verbatim03:28
epiloccrimsun: oh, well what needs to change?  im so close...03:28
linnercafuego:  it's an empty file03:28
bob832got another question:  trying to mount a ntfs partition and when i did sudo mkdir /media/windows , i got this error:  sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Sep 27 12:44:33 200503:28
bob832     i recently changed the time in the clock, could that have something to do with it/03:28
locomortolgc: apt update?03:28
cafuego_linner: And type the following, minus the quotes: "*/30 * * * * /usr/sbin/ntpdate pool.ntp.org"03:28
Jack_Bhow should i go about converting wma's to mp3 on ubuntu ?03:28
DonLA simple apt-cache unmet has just shown me the pages of problems from my attempted Breezy update.03:28
nomasteryodaif developers could put the new alsa drivers or a workaround , many more people would be able to  use Ubuntu ..03:28
Earthencafuego_ when i run that it says failed, port 3 disabled03:28
linnercafuego:  inside the empty file?03:28
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locomortolgc: It wont come in if your on hoary by just apt-get upgrade03:28
lgclocomorto, I mean an update through apt-get install.03:28
crimsunnomasteryoda, hmm?03:29
cafuego_linner: yep.03:29
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linnercafuego:  done03:29
nomasteryodacrimsun, there is a bug report on the site03:29
locomortolgc: theres some in the hoary repos, but there very old03:29
crimsunnomasteryoda, we _can't_ just shove in newer ALSA drivers. I've been banging my head against it for weeks.03:29
Jack_Bhey guys, how should i go about converting wma to mp3 on hoary?03:29
nomasteryodalol03:29
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linnercafuego:  may i change the 30 minutes to 5 minutes?  It seems to get VERY off after 30 minutes03:29
os2maclinner did you get it working?03:29
cafuego_linner: That will make the crond aemin run the ntpdate command every  x:00 and x:30 minutes.03:29
cafuego_linner: See how it runs first, then maybe try 15 or 10.03:30
linnercafuego:  ok03:30
linnercafuego:  will do03:30
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linneros2mac:  which one?03:30
linner:)03:30
crimsunnomasteryoda, I have to forwardport a change applied against 1.0.9b against our kernel, which is 1.0.9+cvs03:30
os2macwlan03:30
Earthencafuego_, then i get a hole lot of hub 5-4:1.0: connect-debounce failed, port 3 disabled03:30
lgclocomorto, it's about time OOo V2 is available through apt-get!03:30
cafuego_linner: Now run 'sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org' by hand.03:30
linnerok03:30
nomasteryodaoh... ic03:30
cafuego_Earthen: Any weird usb devices plugged in?03:30
epiloccrimsun: I understand... if you were starting off at that wiki, what would you do diferently?03:30
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linnercafuego:  done03:30
cafuego_linner: Cross yer fingers and wait an hour ;-)03:31
packman_ehey anyone using uvuntu 5.1003:31
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linnercafuego:  I spoke with Nalioth.  May I PM you?03:31
linnercafuego:  ok :)03:31
linnercafuego:  will do03:31
csthepoethey room03:31
cafuego_linner: Yeah ok.03:31
locomortolgc: Hoary is frozen03:31
os2macLinner did you get your wlan working?03:31
locomortolgc: eg: no updates are made so it doesn't get instable03:31
lgclocomorto, what do you mean? No bugfixes?03:31
locomortounstable*03:31
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Earthencafuego_ I have a few USB things pluged in yes, mouse,joystick,Palm,sidewinder,and belcon speed pad03:31
locomortoonly security fixes generally03:32
threadcrimsun: that guy's solution worked like a charm. Thank you so much for finding that. I did a lot of surfing around the forums and such but didn't manage to fall upon that page. THANKS!03:32
crimsunthread, np03:32
locomortobugfixes can create more bugs03:32
Earthencafuego_ none of witch gave me problems before03:32
megamanx2005what new features is breezy badger going to have03:32
crimsunepiloc, which set of images are you using?03:32
cafuego_Earthen: yeah, it would seem odd that they could slow down the machine.03:32
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linneros2mac:  I haven't gotten that far yet03:32
locomortoThere is a guide on the forum how to get newer version of OO203:32
cafuego_Earthen: Did you install updates (new kernel?) before booting windows?03:32
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os2macI got mine working just now ( I am on it right now) I may have a couple of tips....03:33
linneros2mac:  I didn't want to bombard the channel with too many of my problems since there are so may people in here who need help too.  Immediately, I needed to get my system clock running as nearly everything I do is time dependant.03:33
Earthencafuego_ mmmm I'm not sure but i think that i may have did an update last night but i booted intolinux earler today and no problems03:34
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linneros2mac:  oh dude.. do share ;)03:34
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DonLcrimsun, you've helped me lots of times before. My attempted upgrade to Breezy from Hoary was a disaster. Fortunately I have a spare drive and I installed Warty on it for now. Should I wait and every now and then apt-get update, and install, or wait for the real thing and just install?03:34
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os2macfirst of all you are using a broadcom wlan card right?03:35
linneros2mac:  absolutely03:35
os2macwhat .inf file?03:35
linnerlet me go check03:35
os2macname and size please03:35
linnerhold on a sec os2mac03:35
linneros2mac:  size of what?03:35
os2macthe .inf file03:35
linneros2mac:  ok03:35
linneros2mac:  hold on just a sec03:36
os2macthe one I am using is bcmwl5.inf03:36
crimsunDonL, hmm? You installed Warty?03:36
os2macand it's 1774203:36
linneros2mac:  I'm using bcmwl5.inf03:36
DonLcrimsun, on another spare drive. Actually, I forgot how simple and good it works03:36
linneros2mac:  and it's 1.2mb03:36
linneros2mac:  big difference03:37
DonLcrimsun, it's the only actual ubuntu cd I have03:37
Earthencafuego_ I've seemed to have found it, I think it was 3ddesktop I killed it and it sems fine now, maybe something to do with my ATI drivers maybe03:37
linneros2mac:  where did you get your driver?03:37
os2macwhat is the data on the file?03:37
crimsunDonL, you can dist-upgrade from Warty to Hoary at least03:37
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crimsunDonL, how was the dist-upgrade from Hoary to Breezy a disaster?03:37
DonLcrimsun, that's what I did before.03:37
DonLcrimsun, pages of unmet dependencies03:38
os2macI did a search on my harddrive for it. I am running the LIVE version of Ubuntu03:38
DonLNo X03:38
linneros2mac:  you're going to have to be specific... i don't know how to obtain the data... do i justopen it with texteditor?03:38
linneros2mac:  ok.... that might make a difference03:38
DonLcrimsun, I can see all my files but have no gui03:38
linneros2mac:  i have it INSTALLED03:38
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os2macwhat directory was it in?03:39
tonkarhi all! have you any idea why after an upgrade my xserver is desconfigured?03:39
epiloctftpd file not found....03:39
epilocim stuck03:39
epiloc:(03:39
DonLcrimsun, seems the biggest culprit is libfooc0depending on libmp4v2-0, not installed03:39
tonkarand how to solve this problem? "no screen found" (an nvidia)03:40
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linneros2mac:  in my home03:40
os2macLinner what I am looking for is the file info.03:40
Earthencafuego_ thanks for you help good night03:40
os2macthe filesize and date of the bcmwl5.inf file that you loaded into ndiskwrapper.03:40
linneros2mac: ok03:40
tonkarmaybe an dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86?03:40
os2macyou should be able to get that by going to the directory that the file is located in and doing ls -al03:41
linnerok03:41
linneros2mac:  let me get terminal up03:41
os2macI knew what the file name was when I attached it the first time... just didn't know which to pick... I have serveral versions of that file on my harddrive.03:42
crimsunDonL, X Window System doesn't work?03:42
linneros2mac:  this is what terminal says:  -rw-r--r--  1 kelley kelley 1206158 2004-02-07 15:56 /home/kelley/Downloads/bcmwl5.inf03:42
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os2macI just chose one after another until it worked.03:43
DonLcrimsun, maybe the suggested repositories I copied weren't complete. Maybe I'm missing something. Do you know of another set of repositories? No. I can't get X to work03:43
tonkari too03:43
epiloccan I set up a dhcp server and tftp server to handle pxe boot requests... can i give the machine a windows boot image?03:43
linneros2mac:  see i don't know that this doesn't work...03:43
tonkarme too :P03:43
os2macthat is a much newer file than mine...03:43
DonLcrimsun, xinit fails03:43
linneros2mac:  it's a beta file03:43
tonkarthat after an update03:43
os2macI am using an older version of the file.03:43
linneros2mac:  tell me where to get what you have?03:43
os2mac-r--------  1 root root   17742 2003-06-13 21:37 bcmwl5.inf03:44
linneros2mac:  i see03:44
linneros2mac:  so where can i down load it?03:44
crimsunDonL, you shouldn't have to add any external repositories. What were you using that required external repos?03:44
os2macthis is a compaq correct?03:44
linneros2mac:  yes03:44
os2macare you running the live version?03:44
linnerno... it's installed03:45
os2macof Ubuntu03:45
os2macahhh03:45
linnerubuntu yes03:45
os2maclemme see if I can find a spot on the internet to get that file03:45
linnerok thank you so much03:45
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tonkarwich is the command to reconfigure my xserver?03:45
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Rumrunnerdoes ubuntu support wpa2?03:46
phlaegeldpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:46
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DonLcrimsun, instead of changing "hoary" to "breezy" I copied a suggested repository and dumped my old one. I've done that before without problems03:46
hyperactivecrondhow do you get rid of ubuntu-desktop and everything it provided when you install it?03:46
hyperactivecrondinstalled~03:46
tonkarthanks ;)03:46
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Rumrunnerdoes ubuntu support wpa2?03:48
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os2machttp://nicolas.bonifas.free.fr/inspiron/bcmwl5.inf03:48
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os2macthat is the same file size....03:48
os2mactry that one.03:48
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SuperLagAny of you guys had issues just doing s/hoary/breezy in sources.list and upgrading that way?03:49
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dooglusSuperLag: I did03:49
DonLSuperLag, perhaps that works, my way (for me) didn't03:49
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os2macIs there anyway in Ubuntu Live to save the settings to a thumb drive for bootup later03:50
dooglusSuperLag: something about unterminated `s' command03:50
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attyhi. i did open synaptic package manager and search for sun-j2re1.503:51
jmghey all03:51
jmghaving a prob with lilo+devmapper03:51
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crimsunDonL, it's best to dist-upgrade with _only_ the Ubuntu repos03:51
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attyduring i mark it inform not authenticated? should i proceed or need to do anything?03:51
DonLcrimsun, I've got a functioning Warty system happening now which will serve me well for a few weeks. Maybe I'll just wait and see if things fix themselves.03:51
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attycan u help me _jason?03:52
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_jasonatty: whats the problem?03:52
DonLcrimsun, yes. I know that now. That's what I've been sticking to for many months. There were some other things hanging around in my system before I knew that though03:52
jmgTitle Search: "lilo"03:52
attyhi. i did open synaptic package manager and search for sun-j2re1.503:52
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attyduring i mark it inform not authenticated? should i proceed or need to do anything?03:53
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attyshould i proceed?03:53
crimsunjmg, please don't flood03:53
moparfan90hello im trying to play thig game paintball an the mouse is all messed up. right away the mouse looks stright up and won   move down and its not inverte or anything????03:53
_jasonatty: what repos are you using?03:53
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_jasonatty: it just means its not the official ubuntu repo03:53
attyi'm not sure... but i did follow ur instruction yesterday03:53
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StR_breezy_kde35Hi all03:53
attyso can i proceed _jason?03:53
jmghttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/260003:54
_jasonatty: yes, I am using that package right now03:54
attyok03:54
attyi will do it now03:54
attybe right back03:54
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linneros2mac:  ok i'm back... let me scroll up03:54
epilocdoes anyone know how I can install windows xp on a machine via network from my ubuntu machine?03:54
attyhow can we know either we are using Breezy or Hoary?03:55
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attywhat the different between Breezy & Hoary?03:55
benplaut!breezy03:56
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linneros2mac:  ok.... i have it saved now03:56
spindleyepiloc, i don't think you can do a network install with windows03:56
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DonLcrimsun, the suggested repos I got were of Ubuntu's site, so I trust them. Maybe my old crap in here is upsetting some of the new stuff. I may use the time between now and the official release to get as much important stuff off my system as possible and then do a total re-install of Breezy.03:56
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jsubl2atty: cat /etc/lsb-release03:56
Sionideatty03:56
SionideUse the command:03:56
Sionide$cat /etc/issue03:56
os2macalso when you do the ndiswrapper -i and the modprob ndiswrapper do it as root.03:57
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attyok. i'm reading ubotu web given03:57
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linneros2mac:  ok... what's the difference between sudo and su?03:57
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os2macgood question ... I have never used sudo.... I am an old geek....03:58
os2macI have always used su.03:58
linneros2mac:  ahhh :)03:58
_jasonwhat does su do :o03:58
linneros2mac:  okey dokey ... I'll do what you say... :)03:58
os2macswitch user.03:58
linner_jason:  it gives you access to the root03:58
_jasonoh I see03:59
attystill i dont understand. is it breezy more good that hoary?03:59
_jasonlinner: so just like root terminal?03:59
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os2macyes similiar03:59
DonLbut then it reverts in case you forget to03:59
linner_jason:  I believe so03:59
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Hobbseeatty: it's newer, but it's still in beta03:59
spindleyi think sudo allows you maintain as root without actually setting a root password03:59
linner_jason:  it's a safety measure - what DonL said03:59
misfit_toyyay, latest update on breezy fixes beagle, this is cool stuff.03:59
spindleysort of..03:59
attybeta?? i think i'll stick to hoary03:59
atty:))03:59
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DonLyes, linner, I like it for that04:00
moparfan90i am playing digital paintball and my mouse is messed up anyone know how i can ficx it??04:00
linnerDonL:  me too :)04:00
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Hobbseeatty: good idea - the best bet is to reinstall...i screwed my system yesterday with it04:00
cafuego_misfit_toy: When? my beagle is segfaulting all over the shop.04:00
os2macspindley he is using an installed version.04:00
attylol04:00
spindleyoh04:00
misfit_toycafuego, as of about an hour ago04:00
cafuego_Or dop i need to delete indexen?04:00
os2macso he probably needs to set a root pwd04:00
attyi'm satisfied with ubuntu04:00
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linneros2mac:  I'm a she... :)04:00
attycompare to fedora and suse04:00
_jasonlinner: so su uses the root password and won't work unless you set one?04:00
attyeasy04:00
attysimple04:00
os2macsorry....04:00
os2mac:(04:00
Hobbseeyay...another she!04:00
linneros2mac:  it's ok.. i get it all the time04:00
Hobbseelinner: yes, i'm not surprised04:01
os2macmy humble apologies....04:01
os2macit was wrong for me to assume.04:01
spindley_jason, su means 'switch user'04:01
linnerHobbsee:  why do you say that?04:01
linnerspindley:  i thought it meant "super user"04:01
Hobbseelinner: well there seem to be very few women on there, so i assume all the women get that04:01
_jasonspindley:  su just prompts me for a password, which I am assuming is the root one since mine doesn't work like with sudo04:01
linnerHobbsee:  ahhh I see :)04:01
Hobbseelinner: i didnt mean that you sound male or anything :P04:01
Hobbseelinner: really i didnt lol04:01
os2macnor did I...04:01
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spindleylinner, nah you can 'su <another_user>04:02
spindley'04:02
linnerHobbsee:  no, I didn't take it that way... just was curious :)04:02
Hobbseealthough we dont really have female usernames04:02
linnerspindley:  ahhh04:02
_jasonspindley:  oh04:02
spindley'su -' will switch to root04:02
DonLWell, it's been a pleasure. Must go for now. Thanks for all the help!04:02
spindleywith the pass of course :)04:02
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linnerHobbsee:  neither do i.. and i did that on purpose to be taken seriously :)04:02
Hobbseelinner: it's still early in the morning - not enough coke had yet04:02
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linnerHobbsee:  where are you?04:02
Mronohi04:02
Hobbseelinner: true, Australia04:02
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linnerHobbsee:  oh okay :)04:03
os2machow's it going Linner?04:03
Mronoanyone here who could help me with an install problem for 5.0404:03
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linneros2mac:  i haven't done it yet... have a few PMs to attend to04:03
linneros2mac:  give me like 5 minutes.... is that ok?04:03
os2macyeah no worries.. you want me to hang out and wait?04:03
Mronoello?04:03
misfit_toycafuego, now if only luminocity would be built quickly into breezy final I would shit a brick right here and now.04:03
Hobbseehey Mrono - what's your question04:04
linneros2mac:  oh I certainly don't want to monopolize your time04:04
Hobbseethen we'll see if anyone can answer it04:04
linneros2mac:  if you can that would be awesome04:04
Mrono1. it wont install the rest of the cd04:04
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childeHello.04:04
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Mrono2 it gets to the detecting cd rom and sits at 50%04:04
os2macno worries.. I am happy to have it working on my own distro... .like I said I tried to mess with it for several hours last night and couldn't get it to work correctly...04:04
childeDoes anybody know when can we get the latest version of Groff in Ubuntu?04:04
os2macI am just happy to pass on the lessons learned.04:05
os2maccall it paying the debt.... you gave me the missing piece....04:05
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misfit_toyoh, quick question, since I"m on 2.6.12-8-38604:05
misfit_toy, why don't they have the linux-source for this? only the generic 2.6.12 which won't let nvidia compile!?04:05
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Mronoany ideas04:06
linneros2mac:  ok.... i'm done now with the PMs04:06
Mronoit did this to me on another machine04:06
moparfan90bye everyone04:06
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os2macok04:06
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misfit_toydamn cats04:06
linneros2mac:  so should i follow the same directions minus the step where it points to my jump drive?04:07
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os2macI did the instructions from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper but ran them as root.04:08
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os2macrather than sudo root04:08
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linneros2mac:  by directions i mean these : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper04:08
Mronoanyone have any ideas04:08
linneros2mac:  ok04:08
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linneros2mac:  right on04:08
linneros2mac:  i'll try it now04:08
HobbseeMrono: nope, unless the cd's not spinning quickly enough04:09
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os2macalso I was actually in the directory where the file was located (not that it should make any difference.04:09
Mronoit installed stuf before it stopped at the cd04:09
Mronoand it'll run the live just fine04:09
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linneros2mac:  right got that04:09
gpdis there a problem with the nvidia kernel module for breezy with 2.6.12-9?04:10
cafuego_gpd: Not as of a few minutes ago on AMD64. Howso?04:10
misfit_toyif anyone wants to turn an old webcam into a vid capture device for any reason...http://freshmeat.net/projects/motion/ works great04:10
gpdmine does not seem to recognize4 my card04:10
Mronowhy doesnt the live cd mount existing file systems04:10
spindleythere's a problem with that stupid nvidia kernel with every kernel with every distro04:10
cafuego_gpd: What card?04:10
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gpdcafuego_: GeForce 680004:11
gpdworked fine under hoary04:11
cafuego_gpd: Hmm, odd. No, not a clue.04:11
RexKwonDoI'm using the 6800 and mine works fine04:11
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Mronowell04:11
Mronoi gtg04:11
Mronoi'll see you guys later04:11
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gpddo you keep the module in /lib/modules/xxx/volitile?04:12
linneros2mac:  it says i have to remove the first file04:12
linneros2mac:  how do i do that?04:12
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os2machold on a sec04:12
linneros2mac:  ok04:12
bob2I'd really really not mess in the volatile dir04:12
bob2at all, ever04:12
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gpdwell the nvidia module is installed in there by apt04:12
brownie17bob2, good on you04:12
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os2macndiswrapper -e bcmwl5.inf04:12
brownie17can someone tell me what is the name of a good vcd creation software?04:12
linneros2mac:  thank you04:12
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os2macno worries..04:13
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nomedhi all04:13
jmgdevice-mapper ioctl cmd 12 failed: No such device or address04:13
os2macfor the record... if you run ndiswrapper with no switches it will tell you all that..04:13
rejdenwhy there is difference on shipit.ubuntu.com and shipit.ubuntulinux.org?04:13
nomedare there the cloop sources in ubuntu?04:13
bob2jmg: er04:13
bob2jmg: pick one channel04:13
os2macBRB04:13
RexKwonDoI have had some crashing with FireFox, so I'm testing out Epiphany.  Is there a way to have a static "search" bubble on the toolbars?04:14
jmg[pid 23930]  ioctl(4, DM_TABLE_STATUS, 0x807d378) = -1 ENXIO (No such device or address)04:14
linneros2mac:  ok.... i have another question for you when you return04:14
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brownie17!logs04:14
ubotuChannel Logs are at: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/04:14
nomedi see cloop-utils .. but i don't see cloop-src .. what's wrong?04:15
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os2macback04:15
bob2rejden: that appears to be a bug04:15
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os2macmmm Earl Grey....04:16
ocavidi cannot play mp3 on ubuntu, what can i do?04:16
linneros2mac:  i love tea04:16
cafuego_!restrictedformats04:16
bob2ocavid: read the FAQ04:16
ubotuI guess restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'04:16
luckyhi.  I'm trying to install azureus. I follow the instructions on the wiki thing, but it gives me: E: Couldn't find package azureus04:16
bob2ocavid: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictFormats04:16
reterin ubuntu, the cd failed to upload all the database files. how can i do it manually?04:16
linneros2mac:  ok... so can you join #ubuntu-offtopic so i can past what it's tell me?04:16
os2macI switch back and forth.. between coffee and tea... right now it's Earl Grey.04:17
os2macyes hang on.04:17
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os2mac#ubuntu-offtopic04:17
bob2rejden: what does "failed to upload all the database" files mean?04:17
rejdenbob2, cos i canceled my order cos i dunno if it's for 5.10 or 5.0404:17
rejdenbob2, huh04:17
reterbob2: well the installation cd said "failed installation"04:18
bob2bah04:18
rejdenbob2, oh :)04:18
reterbob2: the database files didnt go through and its not on machine. i have no gnome04:18
reteris there a way i can get all of it manually without the cd04:18
bob2reter: sounds like the CD is broken04:19
reterit installed the system04:19
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reterubuntu is running..i just have no desktop/gnome04:19
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jknifedid you do network?04:19
bob2it's impossible to help without more details04:20
reterwhat mode do you want?04:20
retermore04:20
reteri don't have gnome04:20
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reteri want gnome and all the files that come with it04:20
jknifewhy i upgraded to breezy.. X had a few broken links i fixed them.. then my keyboard every time i pressed a key changed res.(cept the num pad)04:20
ocavidwhere i could find k3b-mp3 package?04:20
bob2"wanting gnome" is not a description of a problem04:21
jknifereter, apt-get update && apt-get install gnome gdm04:21
bob2it's impossible to tell if the problem is that X is misconfigured or if your CD was corrupt04:21
brownie17bob2, i checked the logs, i hadn't said a single thing for approx 2 hours when seveas banned me. could it have been an accident?04:21
foo-bar-anyone have any idea what might cause my installation of ubuntu to slow down drastically at ~6% complete (it seems like it hangs, but it does install packages every few minutes).  From 0% to 6% packages seem to be installed much faster04:22
bob2brownie17: I dunno, you'd have to ask Seveas04:22
atty_jason. after finish update java. should i restart my laptop?04:22
gpdit seems that there is a version conflict between nvidia kernel module 7174 and driver 7xxx04:22
brownie17bob2, i figured it out, i was stuffing artound with ubotu in another channel, and i forgot to erase what i put in there. but i didn't destroy anything worth being in there04:22
brownie17bob2, sorry04:22
jknifewhy i upgraded to breezy.. X had a few broken links i fixed them.. then my keyboard every time i pressed a key changed res.(cept the num pad)04:23
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ocavidbob2: where i could find k3b-mp3 package?04:23
packman_e!faq04:23
ubotuit has been said that faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/04:23
jknifeim using 5.04 now04:23
packman_ehello all04:24
epilocim about to give up04:24
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epilocon this network boot install04:24
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jknifeepiloc, do cd install then apt-get dist-upgrade04:25
Philyhello all I need some help, I will to clean up deamons and services at startup I don't need cups lp and others how do I do this?04:25
cafuego_gpd: 7174 is a bit old, too.04:25
PhilyAlso I want to know how far I can go04:25
QuinthiusPhily: check out rcconf04:25
Philywhich process do kill04:25
epilocjknife: i am trying to install ANY OS on my diskless laptop vai network04:25
oblibQuestion: when I boot up, Ubuntu does not mount my serial ata drive (sda1). I can mount it just fine once I'm in Ubuntu. Anyone know why?04:25
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Philyjknife: diskless you mean network boot04:26
Quinthiusoblib: is it set to "noauto" in /etc/fstab?04:26
jknifePhily, ???04:26
oblibno: /dev/sda1       /win/f          ntfs    nls=utf8,umask=0222 0       004:26
butcherbirdepiloc, no floppy, no cdrom, no usb?04:26
epilocno nothing!04:26
epilocits sooo bad04:26
jknifeyour fed04:26
jknifepull the hd.. install it on one pc and move it back04:27
epilocive never taken a hd out of a lappy04:27
epilocdont i need a conversion drive?04:27
epiloclike 3.5" or something04:27
Quinthiusepiloc: is there any OS on it right now?04:27
epilocno04:27
jknifebeats me.. im a desktop person04:27
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epilocit has pcmcia slots, but they are not picking up the pcmcia external cdrom04:28
gpdso i had installed the linux-restricted-xxx-nvidia... which was not required... removing fixed the problem04:28
epiloci figured, i have to get an OS on there first, to install drivers... THEN the pcmcia will work04:28
jknifeepiloc, is the bios set up correctly?04:28
epilocyes, i have tried countless things in the bios04:29
epiloc'pcmcia' doesnt appear once in the bios04:29
epilocwhy is that?04:29
oblibany other ideas quin,04:29
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jknifeits gay?04:29
oblibQuinthius?04:29
PhilyQuinthius: tks for rcconf, but is fetchmail required04:29
ocavidanyone pls help where i could download k3b-mp304:29
epilocjesus im about to rip my hair out04:30
jknifeocavid, d/l the source and build it yourself04:30
epilocheh04:30
ocavidjknife ok where it is located?04:30
jknifeand then build a pkg for everyone else04:30
jknifeGOOGLE04:30
jknife(srry for caps)04:31
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Sionidewow awesome04:31
Sionidethe new add/remove progs in Breezy04:31
Sionide"I thought Synaptic was simple, but this really takes it to the next level. Want VLC? Click Sound & Video, More programs, and check the box next to VLC. Click Apply. Done."04:31
Sionidehttp://www.tectonic.co.za/viewr.php?id=61104:31
ocavidjknife ok i will try04:31
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jknifeor kde main site04:31
Quinthiusoblib: i dont know what else to suggest, sorry :/04:32
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jknifeepiloc, i have no clue about your problem04:33
QuinthiusPhily: fetchmail? i dont THINK so, but not sure...  i think it's recommended to leave postfix enabled though04:33
epilocjknife: i think the answer lies in netbooting04:33
epilocit has pxe enabled network card04:33
jknifeive never used netboot04:34
PhilyQuinthius: do u know if rsync is used for anything specail04:34
PhilyQuinthius: I don't use it04:34
KnelixDoes anybody know how to take a screenshot in XFCE?04:34
epiloci can set up the bios to boot off the network card but i not the cdrom drive :(04:34
jknifeask in #gentoo (im sure one of the 1000 ppl in there know)04:35
dooglusoblib: it's kind of cheating, but how about putting a 'mount' command in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh ?04:35
socommHow would I make it so that I would not need to authenticate with my samba server?04:36
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bob2Knelix: "import" from imagemagick04:36
PhilyKnelix: use scrot command line tool04:36
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bob2epiloc: google "pxe tftp ubuntu" +site:wiki.ubuntu.com04:37
jknifethe default servers are faster for me then the us servers04:37
bob2socomm: configure them not to use passwords04:37
bob2socomm: or setup kerberos04:37
dooglusbob2: what does "+" do in google queries?04:37
bob2jknife: archive.ubuntu.com and us.archive.ubuntu.com are the same machine in london04:37
bob2dooglus: logical AND04:37
bob2dooglus: guess it's not really needed04:37
PhilyKnelix: scrot uses imlib2 very fast!04:37
dooglusbob2: google defaults to logical AND04:37
skrewdriverhey guys, trying to compile a driver (first attempt at compiling), can't get make to work. do I need to download any extra packages?04:37
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bob2skrewdriver: when asking questions like that, you need to mention what driver it is, and also paste the error to #flood or the pastebin in the /topic04:38
skrewdrivererror is: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-8-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.04:38
epilocbob2, i have been following the wiki for the past 3 hours04:38
skrewdriveroops. sorry.04:38
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dooglusbob2: aah...  " If a common word is essential to getting the results you want, you can include it by putting a "+" sign in front of it"04:38
epilocbob2, something is not right :(04:38
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jknifebob2, umm i get 30Kb from the having us and ~70/~100 without it04:39
Knelixbob2, Phily: Where the heck are those?04:39
bob2skrewdriver: and the driver is?04:39
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bob2dooglus: ah, glad there's some justification for it ;)04:39
PhilyKnelix: apt-get install scrot04:39
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bob2epiloc: and the wiki page you are following is ...04:39
noreengud day how should i install my lx-300+ on my ubuntu box? need help04:39
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jknifehow come fortune is edited?04:40
bob2Knelix: install the imagemagick package like you would any other04:40
skrewdriverbob2: driver is iburst-2.1.104:40
bob2jknife: define "edited"04:40
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reterin vi04:40
PhilyKnelix: just type scrot form command line and you get a screenshot from your desktop into the current directory04:40
packman_ehello people04:40
bob2skrewdriver: sudo aptitude -y install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential04:40
retervi, its suppose to be :wq  to save and leave right?04:40
jknife-o list is gone04:40
packman_ewhat is a good email client to use for ubuntu 5.04 please04:40
epilocbob2, http://wiki.koeln.ccc.de/index.php/Ubuntu_PXE_Install04:40
skrewdriverbob2: thanks mate04:40
jknifepackman_e,  thunderbird04:41
reterhow can you just save in VI04:41
epilocthis is the biggest nightmare i have ever encountered04:41
jknife???04:41
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bob2jknife: if you say so; look at the output of "host us.archive.ubuntu.com and "host archive.ubuntu.com"04:41
jknifeohh lol04:41
KnelixPhily: Ah... installing...04:41
bob2epiloc: ignore that and do what I said04:41
difetahey all! I've just installed breezy and none of the icons are showing up in nautilus. Any ideas?04:41
packman_ehow about a news reader?04:41
noreengud day how should i install my lx-300+ on my ubuntu box? need help04:41
lastnodeanybody got their wifi working with intel pro 2200BG? im on a thinkpad r50e04:41
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jknifebob2, i get no fortunes found04:42
bob2noreen: try phrasing your question better04:42
Knelixbob2: I just want to take a screen shot... sounds like imagemagick is a more complete/sophisticated app... I just wanna do something very simple.04:42
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bob2noreen: e.g., what on earth is a "lx-300+"?04:42
bob2lastnode: lots of people have that working fine04:42
bob2Knelix: install it. run "import -root foo.png". all done.04:42
hejuxhelp me !!! ubuntu 5.10 , i  cannt play *.rmvb *.avi *wmv etc.04:42
KyralIs there an easy way to install the Debugging packages for all my packages?04:42
bob2hejux: a) don't be irritating04:42
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reter... /etc/apt/sources.list can't open file for writing04:42
bob2hejux: b) wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats04:42
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reterhow can i save what i editied here04:43
bob2reter: you need to run your editor with sudo04:43
bob2Kyral: no04:43
jknifewell is there any USA mirrors around?04:43
bob2jknife: wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive04:43
cfh_devIs there somewhere Gnome keeps a list of programs that startup when Gnome starts?04:43
Kyralbob2: Remind me to do that when I do a clean server install of Breezy04:43
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bob2cfh_dev: system -> preferences -> session04:44
lastnodebob2, does ubuntu auto detect or should i get the driver?04:44
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bob2lastnode: it includes the driver04:44
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delltonyquestion, i just got a dell maxtor external harddrive and it has ntfs on it. is there a simple way in linux to make another partiton on it that windows AND linux can use?04:44
cfh_devbob2, thanks04:44
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bob2delltony: does it have free space?04:44
hejuxthank you bob2 ^_^04:44
delltonyyeah i just got it04:44
delltony300gig04:45
bob2no, I mean, unallocated space04:45
lastnodebob2, sorry to be a numbnuts, but that means i can just install and do ifup wa0?04:45
cfh_devOn a default Hoary install, is there a way to remove Evolution without removing ubuntu-desktop?04:45
bob2or is it one 300GB NTFs partition?04:45
delltonyone ntfs partition as far as i know04:45
bob2lastnode: that means you can install, then configure it to do whatever you want, yes04:45
bob2delltony: then you need parted or ntfsresize04:45
delltonyi would assume anyway cause its right out of the box04:45
skrewdriverbob2: done that, still getting the same error04:45
bob2cfh_dev: no04:45
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bob2skrewdriver: paste the whole error to #flood04:45
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Kyralcfh_dev, Ubuntu-Desktop is a metapackage that basically does nothing04:46
Kyralits safe to remove04:46
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bob2no, it's not04:46
dooglusdelltony: you just got this drive, right?  so it's blank?04:46
delltonyok ill download parted and look at the manpages and come back if i have any questions thanks04:46
bob2unless you know what it's for04:46
bob2e.g. you will break upgrades by removing it04:46
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Kyralbob2, Correction, until you Dist-Upgrade04:46
cfh_devKyral, so removing ubuntu-desktop shouldn't affect anything when I want to remove Evolution?04:46
Kyralyah04:46
delltonywell dooglus yeah i just got it but the thing wanted to format the drive to ntfs for backup and i let it (windows software that is)04:46
Kyralbut reinstall it before you make the jump to Breezy04:46
dooglusif you don't remove ubuntu-desktop, you can't remove a lot of the other crap that you don't need, can you?04:46
bob2cfh_dev: why do you want to remove evolution?04:46
skrewdriverbob2: okay, pasted04:47
delltonybut i want to use it with linux as well since my primary os on my personal laptop is linux04:47
Kyralbob2, Maybe he doesn't like it?04:47
cfh_devbob2, I prefer thunderbird if any local mail client04:47
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KyralI didn't like it for a long time04:47
KyralLinux is about choices right?04:47
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delltonyi think parted might do the trick04:47
bob2skrewdriver: the output of "dpkg -l linux-headers-$(uname -r) | tail -n1"?04:47
cfh_devKyral, that's the spirit   ;-)04:47
dooglusdelltony: sounds like you want to delete the ntfs partition, then make some new partitions.  if you want both windows and linux to be able to write to the same partition, you're stuck with FAT32 unfortunately.04:47
BROKEN_LADDERwhat is meant by osx's "pdf based" quartz?  that sounds terribly cumbersome and slow.04:47
bob2Kyral: sure, but it only consumes some small amount of disk04:47
bob2Kyral: people can choose to do whatever they want, but removing evolution will make upgrades more complicated04:48
cfh_devbob2, it has memory resident pieces that I'm not too keen about04:48
delltonyactually there is a project called captive that states it can read/right ntfs gnu/linux04:48
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bob2delltony: if it's blank, you can just nuke it and repartition it from scratch04:48
jknifedooglus, well he could use ntfs he would just have to scan it every time he wrote to it in linux04:48
bob2cfh_dev: stop them running then04:48
delltonythats what i'm gonna do bob204:48
afaiksince I installed ubuntu I have a REAL problem with my laptop overheating all the time04:48
afaikwhy!?04:48
afaikWhat can I do!?04:48
dooglusjknife: how would he even write to it in linux?04:48
cfh_devbob2, I can stop the procs but I'm having to hunt down what is starting them04:48
_jasonafaik:  what laptop do you have04:49
delltonydoesn't windows have a driver or something that will read ext3? i seen it on a forum i thought somewherre04:49
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jknifedooglus, enable write support to ntfs in his kernel04:49
afaikDell Inspiron 110004:49
bob2delltony: read, yes04:49
Kyralbob2, IMO, removing a package shouldn't break anything unless its a direct depend04:49
eruinwhat's the correct module for a centrino?04:49
bob2delltony: I wouldn't trust windows not to break it if it wrote to it04:49
dooglusjknife: did you try that?  it doesn't let you do anything other than overwrite existing files04:49
bob2eruin: module for what? wireless?04:49
bob2Kyral: sure, but it still makes upgrades harder04:49
delltonybut really i want two partitions 50gig/50gig  50 ntfs and 50 fat32 i assume its possible04:49
eruinbob2, err, sorry, pentium m :)04:49
skrewdriverbob2: looks like the packages weren't installed04:49
bob2Kyral: people who know what effect removing ubunut-desktop will have will not be asking on irc04:50
naliothdelltony: yes there is, but do you want windows mucking around in your linux?04:50
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dooglusdelltony: how about having two partitions, one for windows to write and one for linux.  they could both read each other's partitions, but not write.04:50
bob2skrewdriver: run the aptitude command again04:50
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jknifedooglus, its still "write" support04:50
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_jasonafaik:  i have a dell inspiron 820  and it hasn't given me any heat issues.  How do you know it is overheating?04:50
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naliothdelltony: you only really need about 7gb for windows (on NTFS)04:50
delltonythats what i want dooglus04:50
bob2delltony: Im not sure windows will actually work with a 50GB fat32 partition04:50
delltonynot installing windows on it04:50
bob2it has an absurdly low limit04:50
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Kyralbob2, so when I do a server install I should install Ubuntu-Desktop even though I don't want half of the packages?04:50
dooglusnalioth: it's an external drive.  I don't think he's installing windows on it04:50
delltonysimply for file storage backups only thats it04:50
bob2eruin: you don't need to load special anything then04:51
delltonybut windows fat32 doesn't like long file names04:51
bob2Kyral: server != desktop used by people who don't really grok apt04:51
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delltonyand linux hates ntfs04:51
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dooglusdelltony: use NTFS and reiserfs.  or NTFS and ext304:51
bob2windows fat32 does 255-cahr filenames just fine04:51
naliothKyral: no, you should install what you want to use on it04:51
delltonyand this can be done with parted?04:51
Kyralthank you04:51
skrewdriverbob2: aptitude says it can't find the package "linux-headers-2.6.12-8-386"04:51
eruinbob2, I have issues with the computer resetting because it gets too hot. only happens in linux, so I figure something wrong is loaded :/04:51
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naliothdelltony: use fat3204:52
KyralI don't fully grok apt, but I believe I know enough to know what will fsck up what04:52
doogluseruin: only in ubuntu, as far as I can tell...04:52
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doogluseruin: mandriva's fine04:52
brownie17can someone help me?, i have an mpg file that is about 850meg and i want to shrink it under 70004:52
bob2skrewdriver: your kernel is out of date04:52
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delltonyit does? reason i say that bob2 is it was orignally fat32 and i went to copy some files to the drive that were long file names and it gave me that error04:52
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bob2eruin: dooglus my centrino laptop as been running ubuntu for 10 months and it's never overheated, and I've heard the fan turn on about 4 times04:52
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delltonynone the less parted will let me partition the drive like i want?04:53
bob2delltony: what error?04:53
bob2delltony: yes04:53
eruinbob2, heh.04:53
skrewdriverbob2: bloody hell. is there a quick way to get it up to date?04:53
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jknifen00b question here!!! what is rsync?04:54
delltonywell it said something in regard to disk partition table doesn't support long file names04:54
PhilyKnelix: did u get your screen shot04:54
bob2jknife: apt-ccache show rsync04:54
delltonybut anyway thats said and done i just want to get the drive formated :)04:54
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bob2jknife: and rsync.samba.org04:54
dooglusjknife: fast remote file copy program (like rcp)04:54
eruinbob2, that doesn't exactly mean nobody elses centrino models might have issues with the current ubuntu setup now does it?04:54
bob2skrewdriver: install linux-38604:54
bob2eruin: no, I was disputing dooglus's claim it was a general ubuntu issue04:54
skrewdriverbob2: sweet. thanks man.04:54
bob2eruin: what does google say about other people's experiences?04:55
oblibQuestion: when I boot up, Ubuntu does not mount my serial ata drive (sda1). I can mount it just fine once I'm in Ubuntu. Anyone know why?04:55
jknifety04:55
afaikis there something I can do to fix my laptop from overheating?04:55
eruinbob2, haven't found anything of substance yet04:55
dooglusbob2: I wasn't saying it was a general ubuntu problem.  I was saying it wasn't a general linux problem04:55
naliothoblib: is it in your fstab?04:55
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dooglusbob2: I was saying it was specific to ubuntu04:55
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naliothafaik: buy a cool pad?04:55
oblibnalioth: as follows: /dev/sda1       /win/f          ntfs    nls=utf8,umask=0222 0       004:55
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xuniluserWhat cd burner do you use in ubuntu?04:55
afaiknalioth, not the solution, it does not overheat when I dual boot to windows04:55
Philyafaik: u can get one of those bottom fan add on04:56
ksmurfLast night I was asking if anyone had ideas about why my internal wifi card kept going awol for no apperent reason on my acer travelmate 2312.  I'm using breezy kernal 2.6.12-9-686.  The card is seen again now but i know It will leave with 5 reboots (laptop).  Can anyone give me insight into why this may be happening?04:56
afaikso obviously, there is a configuration setting that needs to be set04:56
afaikPhily, NOT THE SOLUTION!04:56
bob2eruin: file a bug in bugzilla.ubuntu.com, component linux04:56
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afaikTHERE MUST BE SOME CONFIGURATION SETTING04:56
bob2afaik: file a bug, too04:56
bob2afaik: stop it04:56
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Philyafaik: Pentium M down clock it04:56
dooglusbob2: there are several bugs about this already04:56
afaikbecause my laptop doesnt overheat in windows04:56
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afaikPhily, NOT THE SOLUTION04:56
bob2afaik: chill out04:56
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naliothoblib: you need "auto," in front of the nls part04:56
naliothafaik: watch the caps, please04:57
Philyafaik: r u using Pentium M?04:57
dooglusthe kernel should block the cpu when it's about to overheat, before it gets powered down.  but it doesn't.04:57
afaikitr's not hardware, it is obviously a configuration issue04:57
afaikPhily, no04:57
doogluswindows does it fine, so does mandrake.  ubuntu somehow doesn't.04:57
afaikXeon04:57
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Philyafaik: what r u using04:57
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delltonyi'm sorry to be a pest but is there a hold my hand walkthru howto for parted?04:57
bob2dooglus: you've tested the same machine with mandrake and ubuntu?04:57
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dooglusbob2: yes. and xp04:57
naliothdelltony: open a terminal, and type "sudo apt-get install qtparted"04:57
dooglusbob2: this laptop tri-boots04:57
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afaikmy bad, celeron04:58
naliothdelltony: after it's done, start it from the terminal04:58
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naliothdelltony: it's self-explanatory04:58
bob2dooglus: interesting; have you followed up to one of the bug reports?04:58
oblibnalioth: like this? /dev/sda1       /win/f          ntfs    auto,nls=utf8,umask=0222 0       004:58
dooglusbob2: yes04:58
bob2dooglus: great, thanks04:58
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jknife"E: The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/rsync could not be found."04:58
naliothoblib: yes04:58
Philydelltony: use qtparted04:58
dooglusbob2: I've been a bug reporting machine this last 2 weeks.04:58
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bob2jknife: for errors like that, you need to tell us what on earth you're doing to get that error04:58
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delltonyoh qtparted not parted04:59
oblibnalioth: why do my other drives mount fine without that?04:59
delltonyalright let me try that04:59
bob2dooglus: hah, cool; any been fixed yet?04:59
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naliothdelltony: if you have a thing for gtk, you can install gparted instead04:59
jknifei set sources.list to use rsyns.. did apt-get update04:59
naliothoblib: do they have "auto" in their lines?04:59
jknifersycn*04:59
bob2jknife: er, so don't do that04:59
delltonynah i don't knock it till i try it and it don't work for me :)04:59
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bob2jknife: afaik, apt doesn't have a rsync method04:59
boxerboy29this is a bit off topic but i feel the need to let ppl know what has happened if i may04:59
Vaske_CarWhy my server crashing every 2-3 days? I am using just Samba on it..04:59
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delltonyaww cool a linux version of part magic05:00
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oblibnalioth: no. I have two other IDE drives and they are identical to the first entry I pasted. They mount just fine05:00
delltonynalioth, thanks05:00
delltonyyou too bob205:00
boxerboy29mandriva's kernel update will cause you to lose ubuntu05:00
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dooglusafaik, eruin: perhaps you could add comments to the bug here: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16129 - to let people know it's a real issue.05:00
jknifeok...05:00
delltonynow to see if my drive actually detects thats the biggy brb05:00
naliothoblib: that is weird05:01
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ksmurfI'm sorry to have bothered any of you.  I find an answer elsewhere I guess.05:01
reterbob2: you know when you install ubuntu from cd you can choose to enter 'server'. after you do that, how do you install the rest of the files?05:01
bob2ksmurf: have you filed a bug report?05:01
cfh_devI get this message during boot.  Is worty worrying about?  "VFS: Can't find ext3 filesystem on dev hda3."05:01
bob2reter: that's not the solution to whatever problem you're having05:01
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cfh_devs/worty/worth/05:01
bob2cfh_dev: that means you miscompiled your kernel05:01
bob2cfh_dev: oh, it finishes booting?05:02
_jasonhow do I edit my places menu in gnome (hoary)?05:02
jknifestill getting less then 100Kb05:02
cfh_devbob2, yep, everything runs fine05:02
dooglus_jason: I think you just need to bookmark places in nautilus05:02
ksmurfIs it a bug? I have no idea how to explain an issue that is intermitant like that.05:02
oblibnalioth: thanks, I'm going to reboot and see if it works05:02
bob2cfh_dev: might just be the kernel trying to detect the filesystem type05:02
cfh_devbob2, hda3 is reiserfs which is /.  The message doesn't seem to hinder anything05:02
bob2ksmurf: just explain it like you did above05:02
reterwhat is the solution then bob2?05:02
dooglus_jason: but don't bookmark too much, especially remote places, or you'll find your system start crawling)05:02
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_jasondooglus:  thanks, but I wanted to remove a link: for example "Desktop"05:03
ksmurfk....Thanks I bug it right now.05:03
bob2reter: to actually find out what the problem is, for a start05:03
bob2ksmurf: great, good luck05:03
dooglus_jason: I don't know if you can.05:03
bob2reter: did you check if the CD was ok?05:03
boxerboy29they may email you asking for a file  like they did with me i think it was a file that kept track of errors05:03
reterbob2: as far as i know the cd is ok05:03
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bob2reter: did you check?05:04
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reteryes bob205:04
jknifemay go to debian b/c of d/l speed :-/05:04
bob2jknife: don't be silly05:05
jknife60Kb!! compared to debian 300Kb05:05
bob2jknife: so use a different mirror, duh05:05
bob2or get a better ISP05:05
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bob2even in Australia, I get 150KB/s from archive.ubuntu.com05:05
jknifei have... tried all us mirrors bout the same speed05:05
bob2that's unlikely to be a mirror problem then05:06
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reterthank you so much for your help bob205:06
bob2reter: ?05:06
reteryou've been a real assistance05:07
remyforbes777anyone ever get hda lost interrupt05:07
bob2reter: you really checked the  md5sum of the cd itself?05:07
bob2reter: stop being a gimp05:07
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jknifeFetched 4216kB in 54s (76.7kB/s)05:07
lastnodebob2, to confirm once before i install - the chipset is plug and play, even under hoary?05:08
bob2lastnode: ?05:08
bob2lastnode: ubuntu includes the ipw2200 driver, yes05:08
lastnodethanks, brb after install05:09
ksmurfis there an easy way to find out what drivers my wifi card is using?05:09
bob2ksmurf: dmesg and lsmod05:09
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bob2(ie not without external knowledge)05:09
delltonysweet thanks again for the help guys this is workinig perfectly05:09
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ksmurfI know it's mad wifi so that will help05:09
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boxerboy29forget them and their crap worth of oses05:11
jmganyone here run electricsheep?05:11
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bob2ksmurf: atheros probably, then05:11
remyforbes777i installed knoppix on my hard drive and I am getting hda lost interrupt error05:12
remyforbes777any ideas05:12
Travis|Hhmm, i just installed colony 5 and I was wondering ... how do you enable font smoothing ... the ubuntuguide is still on 5.04 (makes sense seeing as 5.10 isn't final yet) .. but .. just wondering05:12
alisherlinux-restricted-modules includes atheros(madwifi) module, right?05:12
bob2reter: #knoppix05:12
bob2alisher: yes05:12
bob2Travis|H: system -> preferences -> fonts05:13
bob2bah05:13
bob2remyforbes777: #knoppix, of course05:13
boxerboy29if i remember right breezy "guide" should be in menu when released05:13
bob2!+find libXp.so05:13
ubotuUpdating ubuntu files... please wait.05:13
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remyforbes777so its just knoppix05:13
ubotuUbuntu Search of 'libXp.so' (3 shown): (/usr/X11R6/lib/libXp.so) in libdevel/libxp-dev ;; (/usr/X11R6/lib/{libXp.so.6|libXp.so.6.2}) in libs/libxp6 ;; (/usr/X11R6/lib/debug/{libXp.so.6|libXp.so.6.2}) in libdevel/libxp6-dbg.05:13
remyforbes777hmmm05:13
bob2remyforbes777: it has nothing to do with us05:13
remyforbes777ahhh05:14
remyforbes777gotcha05:14
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bob2asking about distros in other distro's channels is kinda silly05:14
bob2and considered rude05:14
henriquemaiaHello. Does anyone knows how to make amarok play CDs?05:15
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jknifeyep take a hammer to it05:15
remyforbes777considered rude huh?05:15
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jknifeshows disrespect05:15
tritiumremyforbes777, of course.  This is an ubuntu channel.05:15
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hoslerI tried to install PEAR to use the DB.php function on my shared hosting server, but that didnt work. Is there an alternative to DB.php that doesnt require PEAR to be installed that I can use?05:16
jknifeyay i found a ftp that gives me 200+Kb05:16
brownie17does anyone know a *nix compatible alternative to Ashampoo Shrink & Burn?05:16
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tristanmikeRE: the wiki's restricted formats section, where it says to add the "debian-marillat" into the source.list, I do that and get an error on sudo apt-get update, anyone gimmie a sugestion?05:16
jknifebrownie17, nope05:17
bob2wtf05:17
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Rylie#ubuntu-offtopic05:17
giardbreezy question: is there a guide to playing quicktime movies somewhere?05:17
Travis|Hgiard: lemme know if you find one, that's on my list of things I need to get working too :)05:17
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jknifeisn't there a quicktime for linux?05:18
DiskgrindI have a problem; after updating Ubuntu, the lower panel doesnt show the minimized windows on the panel, I can alt tab them back but I cant see them in the lower panel anymore.05:18
jkniferight mouse click and goto add to panel05:19
remyforbes777anyone using ubuntu 6405:19
Travis|Hnope no quicktime for linux05:19
jknifeand add window list05:19
spindleyheh05:19
jknifeDiskgrind, read my last 2 msgs05:19
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trans_erranyone run into a problem with evolution freezing on start in breezy?05:20
DiskgrindYes I got them.. thank you very much.. I thought something was wrong with the deal.. thanks!!!!05:20
jknifen/p05:20
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remyforbes777noone using ubuntu 6405:20
jkniferemyforbes777, i HOPEFULLY will be by mid oct05:21
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brownie17MadpilotPPC, what do you know about video files? i want to shrink one, it is a mpeg, 850mg. i want it less than 700. know any good software?05:21
jknife(gonna be upgrading my pc around the 10th)05:21
hoslertrans_err: no05:21
remyforbes777well i have tried installing it on my amd 64 turion based laptop and it freezes at login everytime05:21
jknifebrownie17, umm.. i know of windows programs05:22
DiskgrindOne more question; after letting all the updates run and rebooting, I now have more choices in the grub loader and it doubled my windows XP choice, can I safely remove the older Ubuntu versions from the grub list?05:22
oblibnalioth: It didn't work -- it says it can't find the device or something05:22
remyforbes777logs says that x is configured wrong, but can't tell what x setting is wrong05:22
brownie17jknife, i had one, but through wine it didn't recognise my cd burner05:22
jknifebrownie17, but any decent video editor you will be able to(just set the res to 320x200)05:22
remyforbes777knoppix live cd runs x fine05:23
jknifeor 320x24005:23
naliothoblib: weird05:23
brownie17jknife, well theres my problem isn't it? i don't have a video editor. i need one. know any programs for *nix?05:23
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alisherhttp://heroinewarrior.com/quicktime.php305:23
oblibIs there a file that records all of the messages it shows at boot?05:24
jknifeyeah.. umm there is one called actorstudio(?) dont know if thats the right name but it comes with SuSE is how i found about it05:24
alisherhttp://freshmeat.net/projects/quicktimeforlinux/05:24
jknife(its commerical)05:24
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DiskgrindOne more question; after letting all the updates run and rebooting, I now have more choices in the grub loader and it doubled my windows XP choice, can I safely remove the older Ubuntu versions from the grub list? or should I even do that?05:24
alex_foblib: dmesg05:24
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brownie17jknife, thanks05:24
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jknifenp05:24
jknife(gotta close X need to free up resources)05:25
jorgp2trans_err: no, but I have run into firefox causing Xorg to use 800+Meg of ram and grinding the machine to a halt because it only have 256M ram and 768M swap05:25
xuniluserHELP: Can I burn a .iso file using nautilus?05:25
oblibthanks alex_f05:25
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jknifeuse cddao05:25
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DiskgrindHave a good night all05:25
jorgp2xuniluser: yes, right click and burn image05:26
epilocdoes anyone here think walmart would cary a usb floppy drive?05:26
reteryes epiloc05:26
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epilocoff to walmart i go05:26
jorgp2epiloc: yes, like $30-4005:27
reterepiloc, what else is open at this time for you?05:27
delltonywafflehouse :p05:27
epilocnothing i can think of05:27
epilockmart05:27
reterepiloc, wait tomorrow and go to a computer store05:27
delltonyepiloc, you have wafflehouse?05:27
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reterno not kmart05:27
epilocbut electronics close early i thought05:27
trs4ecehey, how do we use those .deb files found in the ubuntu package search?05:27
oblibSo my problem I think is that it tries to mount the serial ATA drive before it knows it's there. Is there somewhere I can tell manually to mount later in the boot process?05:27
tritiumreter, why are you telling him to wait?05:27
xuniluserjorgp2: but it seems it can't locate the cd inside, eventhough after placing the blank cd, a new window opens...05:27
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delltonyif you have a frys around you go there they are the computer geeks homedepot05:28
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jorgp2xuniluser: close the new window05:28
epilocman, lubbock has no frys05:28
epiloci miss dallas05:28
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Spudz0rhai everyone05:28
delltonyi assume dallas texas05:29
epilocok im off to wallyworld, i HAVE to get this laptop running05:29
delltonyi use to live in austin05:29
Travis|Hhmm, is anyone able to add this radio station to Rhythmbox http://64.236.34.97:80/stream/1039 ............ when I attempt to play this back I get "unexpected end of stream"05:29
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Travis|Has do i with all other stations im trying to add05:29
remyforbes777anyone in ohio05:29
delltonyTravis|H, just curious have you tried it with xmms?05:29
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xuniluserxuniluser: still it asks for a blank cd05:30
desidaerius504I'm across the river in KY remy05:30
remyforbes777oh yeah, im in cincinnati, what part of ky?05:30
xuniluserjorgp2: still it asks for a blank cd05:30
oblibAnyone know how to add a manual mount later in the boot process?05:30
desidaerius504florence/union05:30
delltonyremyforbes777,  you around wooster or miamisburg dayton?05:30
naliothdesidaerius504: remyforbes777 in #ubuntu-offtopic please05:30
Travis|Hdelltony: i don't have xmms installed, i'll try05:30
Spudz0rwould anyone be able to help me... i've installed ubuntu 5.04 on my new laptop and got everything working, apart from my battery monitor... when i do 'cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1/state' all i get is 'present: yes, ERROR Unable to read battery status', can anyone help me?05:31
desidaerius504sorry05:31
delltonywell xmms to me is the winamp of linux05:31
Travis|Hyea, i used itunes in windows .. and rhythmbox seems to be the itunes of linux :)05:31
oblibnalioth can you help me?05:31
naliothoblib: with what?05:31
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delltonywell i always play shoutcast streams and xmms is all i could find that worked for me05:32
Travis|Hbah, no XMMS for breezy either05:32
jsubl2i bet amarok would work with shoutcast05:32
delltonyyeah there is05:32
xuniluserjorgp2: it says Insert Blank Disc05:32
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Travis|Hwhich repo?05:32
delltonyi'm using it :)05:32
delltonyhang on let me find out05:32
reterhow do you configure x?05:32
boxerboy29nalioth: is it worth using ubuntu and than installing kubuntu on other drive? instead of mixing the 205:33
oblibnalioth I think I just need to put a manual mount command later in the boot process, after it has recognized the serialATA drive. Can I do that?05:33
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alisherTravis|H how came no xmms for breezu05:33
delltonyhmm i thought apt-cache show showed the repository05:33
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naliothboxerboy29: (k)ubuntu are the same animal underneath. only the interface is different05:34
Travis|Hi dunno i have universe and multiverse in my sources05:34
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Travis|Hbackports seems to not work05:34
delltonypool/main/x/xmms/xmms_1.2.10+cvs20050209-2ubuntu2_i386.deb05:34
delltonyi can post my source.list if you want05:34
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Travis|Hyea just /msg it to me05:34
alisherTravis|H xmms isnt in Universe05:34
delltonyill paste bin it05:35
Travis|Halisher: where is it?05:35
boxerboy29yeah i know but there are things i enjoy using kde for and im really getting tired of getting ubuntu screwed up by redhat/redora/and mandriva05:35
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alisherI think main or restricted05:35
nerdcorei don't suppose someone could answer a quick question about GRUB on Ubuntu?05:35
alisherhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=xmms&searchon=names&subword=1&version=breezy&release=all05:35
xuniluserAre there other cd burning programs for ubuntu aside from nautilus?05:35
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delltonyhttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/37647005:35
delltonythere you go05:35
hudSeveas: you here?05:36
Travis|Hthanks dell05:36
delltonynp05:36
Amaranthxuniluser: gnomebaker and k3b05:36
Toma-xuniluser: k3b = <305:36
delltonyoh and travis you running it on a lappy?05:36
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brownie17i need help, i was trying to compile a program, and i got the following error: No package 'gtk+-2.0' found05:36
alisherTravis|H xmms is in main05:36
xuniluserAmaranth: thanks05:37
brownie17nalioth, is that a bug in the program? ^^^05:37
xuniluserToma: thanks05:37
delltonyalisher how do you determine that in aptitude? or is there a way05:37
nerdcoreis there a utility i can use to automatically reconfigure GRUB? when I have it load windows it just hangs, and i would rather not go manually configure it....05:37
Toma-brownie17: compiling usually needs the -dev packages of everything u need to compile with05:37
naliothbrownie17: no its a lapse in your installing skillz. install libgtk<something>-dev05:37
Toma-just get the deb :(05:38
brownie17nalioth, i have no illusions of grandure, but i do not follow. what is the <something>?05:38
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naliothbrownie17: <something> is my memory doesnt tell me what numbers go there05:39
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ryufreaki need a bunch of help!05:39
ryufreaki can't figure out how to get access to my other hard drive :(05:39
vladuz976i noticed in expert mode you can use the option "desktop" to install and i guess it sets up different partions for / and /boot what is the advantage of that as to having it in one like with default installation?05:40
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ryufreakcan anyone help me?05:40
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delltonyryufreak, what type of hdd is it? as in ntfs fat32?05:41
trs4eceWhat do I have to do to use packages?  I've downloaded a couple and they each have two tar files and a debian-binary but I don't know what to do with 'em.05:41
reterhow do you reconfigure x?05:41
dreamwavehi.  just got my new hard drive in the mail.  i plan to install a dual boot system to it.  should i install xp first?05:41
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ryufreakfat3205:41
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delltonyhow many drives in he system?05:41
ryufreak205:41
Toma-reter: what do u need to do?05:41
thrice`dreamwave, most definitely05:41
dreamwavethanks05:41
delltonymore than likely its hdc05:41
reterToma-: my gnome is not working. i want to try to configure it05:41
ryufreak?05:41
Toma-gnome and X are 2 different things...05:42
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delltonybut you can try doing a fdisk -l /dev/hdc05:42
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Travis|Hyea the stream works peachy in XMMS :(05:42
delltonyand see if it looks lie the drive05:42
Travis|Hgah stupid rhythmbox05:42
Toma-u sure its X u need to fix or gnome?05:42
ryufreakin terminal?05:42
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retertome: dont know05:42
Hmmmmhi guys i need some help configuring X on my friend's machine05:43
ryufreakbash: -l: command not found05:43
brownie17Travis|H, rhythmbox is great05:43
nalioth!tell ryufreak about windowsdrives05:43
trs4eceah come on guys, it can't be that hard to use these packages, even a URL to a site explaining what to do would help05:43
delltonyif so then 1) sudo mkdir /media/myfat32  2) chmod 777 /media/fat32  3) sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hdc /media/myfat3205:43
Hmmmmhe has an intel 82845G grpahics card and a compaq s700 monitor05:43
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uglysmurfsmb shares not showing up, even at smb://127.0.0.1 ...it recognizes that smb is up and running, but it's not realizing any shares...anyone?05:43
Travis|Hbrownie: yea i can't get it to playback a shoutcast stream05:43
Hmmmmi cant get beyong 800x600@16 bit05:43
trs4eceHmmmm: register your nick and type /msg ubotu fixres05:44
Hmmmmcan someone suggest some solution to go 1026@24 bit?05:44
Toma-reter: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep (EE)05:44
Travis|Hi'm trying to add http://64.236.34.97:80/stream/1039 as a radio station and it won't play .. says "Stream Error Unexpected end of stream" .. but it plays back just fine in XMMS05:44
Toma-reter: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep "(EE)"05:44
delltonyaww so xmms did work05:44
Travis|Hyep05:44
Hmmmmtrs4ece, thanks, am taking al ook at the site05:44
Toma-what does that return?05:44
ryufreaksudo mkdir /media/myfat32, i did that and it asked for pw, i entered, i'm guessing that detected it?05:44
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delltonyyeah i never had luck with rythm myself so i gave up05:44
Travis|Hi guess xmms uses gtk1? heh menus are hideous05:45
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naliothdelltony: read what ubotu just sent you please, you'll find a lot easier way to help folks05:45
Toma-Hmmmm: you need to add the resultion to xorg.conf05:45
delltonyyeah was reading it just now and thanks05:45
vladuz976libtagc0 is not in the repo for breezy?05:45
retertoma: no such file or directory05:45
oblibquestion: Ubuntu does not mount my serial ATA drive during boot and returns an error that it cannot find the device (it is in fstab). I think that it is trying to mount it before it recognizes the serial ATA. Does anyone know how I can fix this?05:46
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trs4eceI feel like a broken record, has anybody here ever used packages downloaded from the ubuntu website and if so, hwo do you install them?05:46
Toma-reter: u using xorg?05:46
delltonyhey nalioth you happen to know when firefox will be stable in breezy? it crashes like a drunk on friday night :)05:46
bob2delltony: if you find reproducible crashes, please do file bugs05:46
bob2delltony: sadly, removing your profile often helps05:46
retertoma: apprently not05:47
philcanyone use rezound sound editor?05:47
Toma-gosh. well i dunno the file name :/05:47
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delltonyoh really thats something i will try but it happens on java enabled sites mostly05:47
delltonyeven though the offical sun java is installed and is working per their test page05:47
Toma-reter: check your x seve log for (EE) messages05:47
Toma-*server05:47
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bob2oh, java05:47
delltonyyeah i know you don't have to tell me ;)05:48
bob2if you're using non-free plugins, you need to talk to whoever made them, mostly05:48
eviantrs4ece, use dpkg -i whatever.deb05:48
afaikwoo hoo!!05:48
afaik100% downloaded05:48
trs4eceevian: thank you!  I'm off to do some installing now :-)05:49
eviangreat05:49
afaikit was a warez pack...10 gigz of warez :P05:49
afaikjust kidding... freebsd cds05:49
vladuz976how can i make a debian *.deb file usable for ubuntu?05:50
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bob2vladuz976: you can't, generally05:50
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bob2vladuz976: normally rebuilding the debian source on ubuntu is enough05:50
HmmmmToma-, the thing is that the entry for 1024@24 bit is there in xorg. but the damn thing doesnt accpet it05:51
vladuz976bob2, but i need this one package and it's not available in breezy yet05:51
afaikit already is05:51
afaikubuntu uzez debs05:51
afaiks/debs/debz05:51
bob2vladuz976: and the package is...05:51
ryufreakso i just did this winmac_fstab, and i still can't figure out how to go into the other hard drive05:51
vladuz976bob2, libtagc005:51
Toma-Hmmmm: u using the right defaultdepth?05:51
oblibHow do I add a program to run every time I boot?05:51
bob2vladuz976: why do you need it?05:51
vladuz976bob2, for enlightenment wm05:52
bob2e16 doesn't need that05:52
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vladuz976bob2, e17 does05:52
BROKEN_LADDERhow can i use mv to change the name of a directory?05:52
naliothvladuz976: use ubuntu stuff, or compile05:52
bob2MaTaKs: no need to /msg me05:52
oblibryufreak do you understand how to mount drives?05:52
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: mv foo bar05:52
naliothryufreak: look in /media05:52
xuniluserWhy is that my gnomebaker and nautilus can't detect a cd inside my burner?05:52
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 that says "cannot copy foo into subdirectory bar"05:53
Toma-i think he pm'ed the whole channel...05:53
vladuz976nalioth, what do you mean by "ubuntu" stuff? i compile05:53
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xuniluseri mean my cdrom writer05:53
bob2vladuz976: if you're compiling it, you need the -dev package05:53
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 i don't want to copy foo into bar.  i want to change the name05:53
vladuz976bob2, can't even find that05:53
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: show us the actual command you ran05:53
BROKEN_LADDERmv coldplay COLDPLAY05:53
BROKEN_LADDERhttp://www.wamu.com/personal/default.asp05:53
BROKEN_LADDERerr..05:53
Toma-MaTaKs: yes its good...?05:53
BROKEN_LADDERmv: cannot move `coldplay' to a subdirectory of itself, `COLDPLAY/coldplay'05:53
epilocmmm lovely walmart05:53
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: that won't work on fat3205:54
BROKEN_LADDERcould this be because the fs is fat 32?05:54
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bob2yes05:54
DiskgrindCan I have Gnome  AND  Kde and be able to choose one or the other at boot?05:54
BROKEN_LADDERdoh!05:54
bob2it's case-insensitive05:54
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 some directories on this drive or caps and some are lowercase.05:54
bob2mv coldplay blah ; mv blah COLDPLAY05:54
Toma-Diskgrind: yes. u get to choose at login05:54
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: yes, fat32 handles it in a moronic way05:54
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bob2BROKEN_LADDER: it stores the case, but doesn't let files differ only in case05:54
DiskgrindHow do I do the choice?05:54
vladuz976bob2, is libtagc0-dev in the repo? i can't find it05:54
hejuxhi ,i got a wrong messege on booting :failed to allocate mem resource 0X0xxx-xxX0000(some num. like this05:55
alishervladuz976: strange, I have libtagc0 in breezy, why you dont?05:55
Toma-Diskgrind: ure using gdm or kdm? its on the login screen, click around till u find it05:55
hejuxmy os is ubuntu 5.10 pre.05:55
ryufreaknlioth: that worked thanks05:55
bob2vladuz976: yes, it's in breezy05:55
DiskgrindToma  how do I find that?05:55
vladuz976alisher, bob2 don't know just installed breezy from iso05:55
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Diskgrindtoma   oh at the username and password part/05:56
Samhainis there a way to automatically recreate the xorg.conf file?05:56
bob2vladuz976: ok, but it is in in breezy, in universe05:56
Toma-Diskgrind: u know where u login with your user and pass? its there05:56
Toma-Diskgrind: yes.05:56
bob2Samhain: what did you do to it?05:56
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alishervladuz976: it is in Universe or Multiverse, enable them05:56
oblibnalioth: that's a smooth script, but still doesn't help my serial ATA problem05:56
vladuz976bob2, if i enable universe i get errors05:56
ompvladuz976: edit /etc/apt/sources.list05:56
Diskgrindtoma  thank you  I will try that.   So Ubuntu can have booth GUI's?05:56
Samhainyeah, I thought I copied it for a backup, then I deleted it. There was no copy :-\05:56
vladuz976omp, i did but then apt-get gives errors05:56
bob2vladuz976: perhaps showing them to us instaed of ignoring them would work better?05:56
bob2Samhain: don't ever delete config files from /etc/05:56
vladuz976bob2, ok05:56
naliothoblib: well i guess a rewrite is in order, eh?05:56
Samhainwell, too late05:56
HmmmmToma-, I tried using 24 bit as defaultdepth, but X mombed on me05:56
alishervladuz976: sudo apt-get update05:56
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hejuxbob2 ,do you know whats the reason ?05:57
DiskgrindToma What do most people use?  I am new at this...05:57
ompvladuz976: did you apt-get update after it?05:57
bob2Samhain: sudo dpkg -P --force-depends xserver-org ; sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg05:57
Samhaindoesn't matter too much, I can just re-install05:57
Samhaini'll try that05:57
Samhainthanks05:57
oblibnalioth: Nah, it does what it's supposed to I would guess. I'm thinking my SATA is just special05:57
hejuxi got a wrong messege on booting :failed to allocate mem resource 0X0xxx-xxX0000(some num. like this)05:57
Diskgrindtoma   Thanks05:58
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Toma-Hmmmm: whatd it say?05:58
vladuz976bob2, ok this is odd, before my update, enabling gave me errors, now after updating it's fine. so i guess libtagc0 should be ok now05:58
nargSo I'm attempting to copy an iso off a cd by doing cp /dev/cdrom1 myiso.iso, but I get cp: reading `/dev/cdrom1': Input/output error05:58
nargscratched cd?05:58
ompvladuz976: after editing sources.list you have to apt-get update :P05:59
ompvladuz976: or else you'll get errors :D05:59
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bob2narg: or dodge drive05:59
alishervladuz976: or if in Synaptic you have to click reload05:59
ryufreakI hard a hard time installing my x800xl with ubuntu, so I used my 6600gt, is there a way for me to install my x800xl?05:59
vladuz976omp, yeah i know, thanks, but that was when i got the error. it said something like "can't read" some and then the url for the listing in sources.list05:59
bob2narg: 'dd if=/dev/cdrom of=./foo.img' may work better05:59
nargwould being on knoppix have any effect? (ubuntu isnt bootable atm)05:59
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nargok05:59
Toma-Hmmmm: u trying to use the standard drivers to get a decent resolution? coz it doesnt work...05:59
nargI'll try that05:59
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Strifeis anyone aware of a tool that lets you monitor ink level and do alignment for HP printers?06:00
Samhainbob2, thanks for the help06:00
jrattner1Why isnt Banshee available in hoary?06:00
skopiihi, is there a ubuntu repostory w/ mplayer?06:00
SamhainI somehow deleted the xserver. I said it was not installed06:00
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SamhainI don't remember doing that06:00
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nargskopii: multiverse/backports. Not sure which06:00
bob2jrattner1: did it exist in Debian in februry?06:00
alisherjrattner1: nbnashee is in Universe or multiverse06:01
bob2skopii: multiverse06:01
skopiithanks narg06:01
skopiithanks bob206:01
bob2Samhain: er, read again what command I told you to run06:01
jrattner1its says its not available on the wiki06:01
vladuz976is there multiverse for breezy?06:01
Dr_Willisvladuz976,  yes.06:01
alisherthere is06:01
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Strifeof course there is06:01
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HmmmmToma-, ok lemme try it again06:02
vladuz976Dr_Willis, where can i find out what repos i can add to my sources. list in breezy?06:02
jrattner1alisher, Banshee works well with ipods i hear06:02
bob2vladuz976: the same ubuntu.com repositories as hoary06:02
Dr_Willisno clue.. i would guess the wiki's and forums are the place to start.06:02
alisherjrattner1 never used:(06:02
Dr_Willisi just added in multiverse after the lines that say 'universe' i think :P06:02
vladuz976bob2, right now after install i only have universe in my list06:03
Travis|His the backports repisotory broken?06:03
bob2Travis|H: talk to the backports people06:03
bob2none of them appear to use irc or email06:03
alishervladuz976: you have to add multiverse, it isnt oficially supported06:03
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Travis|Hawesome06:03
vladuz976alisher, where can i find available stuff to add?06:03
jrattner1alisher, i dont see banshee in universe06:03
AmaranthTravis|H: If you were using one of the bad unofficial backports repos then yes, they are down and will stay down.06:04
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alisherjrattner1: maybe it is in multiverse06:04
bob2NeoFax-Away: please turn that off06:04
Amaranth!backports06:04
ubotuAdd "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports06:04
alisherI am not sure I have them all enabled, and i see banshee06:04
Travis|Hyea .. im on breezy though .. probally just a matter of that06:04
Amaranthah06:04
Amaranthyou don't need the backports then, there is nothing to backport06:05
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ryufreakwhats the command to update X?06:05
alisherjrattner1: it is in universe, did you du sudo apt-get update?06:06
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jrattner1alisher, im using synaptic06:06
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alisherclick "reload" after enabled universe06:06
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vladuz976everything in my sources.list is enabled, isn't there some website that shows what to add to the list for multiverse?06:07
jrattner1alisher, its already enabled06:07
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alisherthen click Reload and search banshee06:07
jrattner1alisher, comes up with nothing06:07
bob2vladuz976: you don't need one06:07
bob2vladuz976: just add the multiverse after universe06:07
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alisheror... you have Hoary?06:08
khermansAnyone have problems printing with evince?06:08
khermansin breezy06:08
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vladuz976bob2, can you paste your sources.list somewhere so i can see it?06:08
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alishernanshee is in breezy only06:08
bob2vladuz976: no06:08
OrisAm i on Ubuntu support channel?06:08
jrattner1alisher, see thats what i was saying06:08
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alishermaybe it is in backports then06:08
bob2Oris: it's called #ubuntu...06:08
alisherI use breezy, am not sure06:08
prcI'm using Hoary and I need libmp4v2.  It is not availible via apt.  What should I do?06:08
bob2vladuz976: add the word multiverse after universe06:08
Oris:))) Just checking :)06:08
OrisI have a problem.. Just installed Ubuntu(right now in Windows)06:09
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vladuz976bob2,  "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse" like that?06:09
Travis|Hgah ok .. 3 packages i seem to have lost access to when jumping to Breezy ......... azureus, limewire, and w32codecs ...... where did they go?06:09
DiskgrindI installed Ubuntu and am using the Gnome Interface, can install Kde as well and use them both??06:09
esachow do i add a new module to be loaded on boot ? (i.e., i installed a wireless card driver, did modprobe ipw2200, it worked, and now i want it to always modprobe at boot)06:09
bimberiDiskgrind: yes06:09
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bob2vladuz976: yup, exactly06:10
Toma-Diskgrind: yes. apt-get install kde-desktop06:10
Toma-i think06:10
Dr_Willisw32codecs   --> http://www.giannaros.org/tor/bt/06:10
Dr_Willisnot sure about the others.06:10
bob2Travis|H: they were never in ubuntu06:10
Jack_Bw32codecs has been taken off backports06:10
bob2Travis|H: they were in random other repositories you used to use06:10
Jack_Brefer to Dr_Willis link06:10
bimberiDiskgrind: install kubuntu-desktop and you can choose the different environments from the login screen06:10
khermansCan someone try printing a PDF from evince and tell me if you get junk for output?06:10
prcI'm using Hoary and I need libmp4v2.  It is not availible via apt.  What should I do?06:10
regeyaindeed.06:10
OrisWhen(in Grub) i start Linux Ubuntu, it starts loading and then "Critical Temperature was reached..." HOW DO I CHANGE THE CRITICAL SHUTDOWN TEMP? I can't get in OS06:10
bob2esac: you know ubuntu includes the ipw2200 driver, right?06:10
Jack_Btry synaptic and search for it06:10
vladuz976bob2, thanks. but still  isn't there something that explains all these repos? some website?06:10
Travis|Hk i assume azureus and limewire were also part of backports i take it06:10
Toma-Oris: check your cpu fan is working06:11
AmaranthTravis|H: I know at least w32codecs isn't in hoary-extras anymore either for legal reasons. (It's flatout illegal in any country with copyright law)06:11
regeyaDiskgrind: you'll also get the option of changing over to kdm at that time; I wholeheartedly recommend it.06:11
bob2vladuz976: /msg ubotu repository06:11
DiskgrindI already installed Ubuntu   I do have the Kubuntu disk as well  how can I get both GUI's ?06:11
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prcJack_B, I did, and it's not there06:11
Jack_Bvladuz976, try www.ubuntuguide.com06:11
esacbob2: i had to compile it because i am running the 2.6.13.2 kernel (because my laptop would hang when powering off or rebooting)06:11
regeyayikes.06:11
khermansAmaranth, the new gnome-bt is really good, an not feature bloated like Azureaus06:11
Toma-Diskgrind: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"06:11
Toma-is how06:11
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bob2Diskgrind: install kubuntu-desktop06:11
OrisToma - it works, i know i always have a high temperature(~60)06:11
regeyaDiskgrind: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop06:11
regeyathat's all06:11
Amaranthkhermans: err06:11
bob2esac: if it's installed correctly, hotplug will load it magically06:11
regeyaDiskgrind: I'm running kubuntu-desktop, and that's how I did it.06:11
ColonelKernelonce again, im having DNS problems06:11
esacbob2: ok, thanks06:11
regeyaworks great06:12
Jack_Bprc: go to command and type in sudo apt-get update06:12
Toma-Oris: its in your bios. probably under PC health/status option06:12
Sonny_Wertzikanybody here use fluxbox with hoary?06:12
ColonelKernelthis has randomly popped its ugly head up again06:12
Jack_Bprc, that should update the list of packages available06:12
khermansAmaranth, why not use it?06:12
esacbob2: now i just have to get the ati driver to work :)06:12
Amaranthkhermans: I think you wanted to talk to Travis|H06:12
Jack_Bif that doesn't work you'll have to edit your source list and add more repositories06:12
Travis|Hthe reason i like Azureus is it has support for RSS feeds06:13
Travis|Hit's useful for getting IPTV shows automatically06:13
henriquemaiaHello. Does anyone knows how to make amarok play CDs?06:13
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DiskgrindToma-  I put in command line and it is installing now..  We will see how that works out.. Thanks guys!!!06:13
Jack_Banybody want to recommend a C compiler with a gui for linux?06:13
prcJack_B, I updated and searched the cache, and nothing shows up.  Is there any other way to safely get a library?06:14
Dr_WillisC compiler with a GUi.... o_006:14
Jack_B?06:14
AmaranthTravis|H: What is IPTV?06:14
AmaranthTravis|H: Nevermind.06:14
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DiskgrindWhat do most people use as far as GUI's??06:14
packman_egnome06:14
Diskgrindgnome or kde06:14
Dr_WillisDiskgrind,  whatever they feel like. :P06:14
Toma-kde06:14
prcJack_B, My source list has everything Hoary has to offer, as far as I know06:14
Dr_Willisor neither... or like me - use both.06:15
bob2Jack_B: no useful C compiler has a GUI06:15
Jack_Bubuntu has gnome by default06:15
Toma-if im feeling sassy, i use enlightenment06:15
OrisI see this IRC channel is not helpful... No one answers my question.06:15
naliothJack_B: you mean like kdevelop?06:15
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bob2Jack_B: you're looking for an IDE, I take it?06:15
Diskgrindlol06:15
Jack_Bbob2: ahh ok06:15
bob2Oris: that's an awesome attitude06:15
Diskgrindok ..ok06:15
Sonny_Wertzikanybody here use fluxbox with hoary?06:15
Diskgrindfunny06:15
Orislol..06:15
Toma-Oris: i answered.06:15
Toma-scroll up :/06:15
Jack_Bprc: sorry i can't help you any further, i'm a noob too06:15
OrisI wrote you in private...06:15
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Jack_Bprc: try asking the mods06:15
Travis|HAmaranth: it's basically just "web shows" .. there's one called Systm, one called OpenAlpha.tv, one called Command.N, one called Digital Life TV06:15
Toma-no u didnt06:16
Dr_Willismost private msgs get ignored. due to all the spam bots lately. :P06:16
B_166-ER-Xprivate wont work is your nick isnt registered06:16
prcJack_B, who are the mods?06:16
Jack_Bnalioth: can i get kdevelop through synaptic06:16
OrisToma.. Do you get my messages? Ok - you write me something06:16
B_166-ER-Xif06:16
oblibquestion: Ubuntu does not mount my serial ATA drive during boot and returns an error that it cannot find the device (it is in fstab). I think that it is trying to mount it before it recognizes the serial ATA. Does anyone know how I can fix this?06:16
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Dr_Willisoblib,  interesting.. does 'fdisk -l' show the device?06:16
Sonny_WertzikOK can someont tell me if the new fluxbox works with hoary?06:16
Jack_Bprc: only seveas is online right now, trying asking other more experienced people06:16
Travis|Hthe bulk of the IPTV shows are released under the creative commons licence and a lot use bittorrent as the sole method of distribution to cut down on bandwidth costs ..06:16
packman_esorry guys, while following the ubuntu faq i am told to put in this repository 'deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted'. unfortunately i get errors any ideas on how to solve it please?06:16
ryufreakwould there be a way for me to get my x800xl to work?06:17
Travis|Hadvantage with Azureus is that it's able to monitor an RSS feed and automatically startup a transfer when a new episode is available06:17
OrisToma - i saw your message, don't you see mines?06:17
alisherbreezy backports? from what?06:17
Toma-nope?06:17
ryufreaki can only run in 6600gt06:17
bob2packman_e: er, no, what url "told you to do that"?06:17
OrisOk...06:17
packman_ehttp://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/ch02.html06:17
bob2Toma-: so install it...06:17
OrisWhat do you suggest me to do? What's in my BIOS?06:17
packman_echapter 206:17
Toma-how very quirky.06:17
bob2bah06:17
prcSeveas, I need a library that is not availible through apt. I have Hoary.  Is there any other way to safely install a library?06:17
Toma-thank 4 the tip bob2 :P06:18
Toma-?06:18
bob2prc: what do you need the library for?06:18
bob2Travis|H: so install it06:18
prcbob2, gtkpod06:18
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OrisToma - is there a way how i can change trip points from WINDOWS? to change critical temp.06:19
DiskgrindToma-  what display manager should I choose???  gdm or kdm?06:19
esachas anybody got their wireless card working with a Microsoft Radius server (including certificate authentication) ?06:19
bob2prc: gtkpod is in ubuntu already06:19
Dr_WillisDiskgrind,  stick with gdm06:19
oblibDr_Willis: yes06:19
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esacdefinetely gdm06:19
Toma-Oris: nope. its a bios 'feature'06:19
Diskgrindok   gdm it is..06:19
Dr_Willisoblib,  if fdisk -l shows it.. check your fstab entry - it may just be wrong.06:19
packman_ebob2, it is in chapter 2 of the ubuntu faq quide06:19
OrisWhat is a BIOS feature?06:19
prcbob2, I know and I have it, but it requires libmp4v2 to read aac files06:19
Toma-Diskgrind: go with whatever your heart tells you.06:19
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Toma-Oris: its a thing the bios does.06:20
Diskgrindlol06:20
bob2packman_e: you mean "the unofficial ubuntu guide"?06:20
oblibDr_Willis: I can mount just fine once I'm in Ubuntu. fstab says :/dev/sda1       /win/f          ntfs    auto,nls=utf8,umask=0222 0       006:20
Diskgrindare you trying to be funny? Toma-06:20
Diskgrindlol06:20
Toma-trying :(06:20
bob2esac: that will be a pain in the arse with a custom kernel06:20
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OrisToma - can BIOS change linux files? ahem..06:20
geckosalivehey, im not seeing a list of system requirements on the site, is there somewhere i can find a list?06:20
alisherpackman_e: do you use breezy or hoary?06:20
Toma-Oris: ...possibly?06:20
esacbob2: can't i just grab an initramfs from a running system and just use it on mine?06:21
packman_ei think hoary, 5.0406:21
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bob2esac: none of the modules inside it will work with your custom kernel06:21
bob2packman_e: right, ignore it then06:21
Jack_Bgeckosalive: system requirements for hoary?06:21
prcbob2, any suggestions?06:21
alisherpackman_e: than replace breezy with hoary06:21
geckosaliveubuntu06:21
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Jack_Bgeckosalive, try googling it06:22
geckosaliveokay06:22
OrisToma: i need to run command like echo "70:70:70:70:65:40" > path/to/trip_points file06:22
bob2prc: eh? libmp4v2-0  is in multiverse.06:22
Toma-oh you wanna mess with /proc?06:22
oblibany ideas Dr_Willis?06:22
bob2alisher: please don't give bad advice like that06:22
OrisToma: and i can't get in linux..06:22
prcbob2, for Hoary?06:22
bob2packman_e: just don't include any backport lines at aall06:22
OrisToma: YES!06:22
OrisToma: :)06:22
bob2prc: no idea06:22
Toma-Oris: youre bios controls when to shutdown the CPU....06:23
Dr_Willisoblib,  mine mount fine.  I dont recall having that 'auto' option in the fstab however06:23
packman_esweet changing it to hoary seemed to work06:23
bob2packman_e: that is a mistake06:23
bimberiprc: no06:23
packman_eit is?06:23
bob2prc: dowsn't look like building the breezy source on haory would be very hard, tho06:23
bob2packman_e: yes06:23
Toma-Oris: cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/trip_points06:23
OrisToma: No-no... Hmm.. Why then it doesn't shut me down when i'm in Windows and my temp gets to 70?06:23
Jack_Bwhat's the firewall on ubuntu called?06:23
oblibDr_Willis: nalioth had me put it in06:23
bob2Jack_B: there isn't one, by default06:23
Dr_Willisoblib,  /dev/sdb1       /media/sdb1     ntfs ro,user 0206:23
packman_eso what should i do06:24
Dr_Willisoblib,  is what i use.06:24
prcbob2, can I do that without erasing everything on my machine?06:24
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oblibDr_Willis: do you know how I could add a manual mount command later in the boot process? I think the SATA is the last thing the boot does before it's done06:24
Jack_Bbob2, ok time to get ipchains then06:24
bob2prc: sure, it's like 4 commands06:24
Toma-Oris: i dont wanna give u bad advice... ive never tinkered with thermal settings. im too scared to melt my cpu. try google or someone else06:24
bob2Jack_B: no, ipchains has been dead since about 200006:24
bob2Jack_B: try firestarter06:24
alisherpackman_e: you dont need any backports to use hoary06:24
Jack_Bbob2, ok thanks06:24
prcbob2, great.  I'll give it a shot06:25
oblibDr_Willis: Do you know what the 0 2 does at the end?06:25
prcthanks06:25
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Dr_Willisoblib,  Hmm... not sure - could out the sata modules in the  /etc/modules file - so they get loaed earlier perhaps06:25
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packman_ealisher, i was just following the quide06:25
Dr_Willisoblib,  i forget. :P06:25
alishercan probably break sth or make your upgrade to breezy later dtroublesom06:25
packman_e*guide*06:25
Jack_Bbob2, hehehe i got this linux book and was just reading up on ipchains06:25
bob2prc: add breezy deb-src line for multiverse to /etc/apt/sources.list. sudo apt-get build-dep libmp4v2. apt-get source -b libmp4v2. install resulkting .debs06:25
OrisToma: yeah i've done that on SuSE.. But know to change that termal_points file i need at least GET IN UBUNTU os.. Or is there a way how i can run that command from windows?06:25
Oris*now06:26
oblibDr_Willis: "could out" ?06:26
Toma-hmmm06:26
OrisToma: cause it shuts me down - i haven't been in OS itself at all...06:27
Dr_Willisput :P06:27
DiskgrindWhere can I see my CPU load?06:27
mahanguwhy doesnt totem try to download the relevant dvd codes for me?06:27
Diskgrindlol06:27
Toma-Oris: do u know how hot your cpu is running?06:27
DiskgrindHow can you see your cpu temp?06:27
Dr_Willishmm.. why should totem download stuff for ya >:P06:27
Diskgrindor load?06:27
oblibDr_Willis: would that be module sbp2 or sr_mod?06:28
Dr_WillisDiskgrind,  several dozen tools can do that.  'sensors' from the shell shows temps.06:28
OrisToma: right now 58 - it's about my normal temp(i know it's hot but it runs for a long time like this without problems.)06:28
Toma-hmm06:28
Toma-and it shuts down at that temp? :/06:28
Dr_Willisoblib,  not sure.   put them both in the modules file. :P06:28
Toma-mine runs at 65... and the trip point on linux is 9006:29
OrisToma: it says "Temp reached(61) this is the one i saw and then "power goes down"06:29
Toma-weird06:29
oblibDr_Willis: those are the modules that are there. Does altering the order change things?06:29
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OrisToma: that's what i want my trip points to set on - 90's06:29
DiskgrindDr_Willis  where do I find sensors at?06:29
Dr_Willisoblib,  i wouldent think so,06:29
Toma-Oris: try acpi=off at the bootline06:30
Dr_WillisDiskgrind,  its a text command. use it from the shell - if its not installed its part of the 'lm-sensors' package06:30
Jack_Bwhy does mplayer and xmms always freeze when i try to play anything?06:30
OrisToma: i know i need a more powerful fan or water cooling system, but there has to be a way to deal with this VIRTUALY ;)06:30
OrisToma: what's that gonna do?06:30
OrisToma: acpi=off06:31
DiskgrindDr_Willis  I am unfamilliar with the shell .... Im very new to this..06:31
Toma-itll turn off acpi from the kernel so it wont care about cpu temp hopefully.06:31
OrisToma: Hmm.. You mean at the GRUB screen?06:31
Travis|Hi take it java runtime environment 1.5 isn't in the repo's either .. as its on that torrent site someone linked earlier06:31
Diskgrindthanks for the help everyone... brb06:31
Toma-yep06:31
Dr_WillisDiskgrind,  well alli can say is that google has a great many "shell tutorials" -   the shell is your friend.. its worth spending an hr or 3 goihg through a few 'bash tutorials'06:31
OrisToma: Hmm.. :D ok, i'm gonna try it now ;)06:32
Toma-select the kernel u want, hit e, and edit the boot line and add acpi=off at the end06:32
Toma-ok good luck06:32
OrisToma: ok, thanks ;)06:32
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puffSo, "deswsusp: resume mismatch: version"06:38
dabaRhi crimsun06:38
puffEr, "swsusp: resume mismatch: version"06:38
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crimsundabaR, hi06:38
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reterhi dabar06:39
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dabaRcrimsun: what was the command to list what ports are open?06:40
OrisToma: :(06:40
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Toma-no love?06:40
OrisToma: It says that doesn't recognize acpi=off command...06:40
crimsundabaR, netstat -ntl06:40
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ryufreakhow do i mount my dvd-rw to get into cd-rom 1?06:40
Toma-u did add it to the kernel parameters line right?06:40
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bob2haha, same here06:41
chris_hi, why doesn't font hinting work on ubuntu?06:41
crimsunchris_, it works great here (Breezy)06:41
OrisToma: yes...06:41
bimberibob2: must be a cbr thing :)06:41
gigaclonwhen is Breezy due to be out?06:41
gigaclonfinal?06:41
Toma-weird.06:41
OrisToma: i tried to add it at the top, at the bottom, in the middle.. - no..06:41
robotgeekchris_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure font-config06:42
bimberigigaclon: oct 1306:42
chris_i've done that06:42
alisherfontconfig!06:42
Toma-anyone? how do u turn off acpi from the kernel?06:42
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dabaROk, the sad story is...A friend, onto whose computer I installed ubuntu, has received an email from the ISP, saying ports were blocked, due to a security concern. ports 135-139, due to "honey pot" now, I wanna see whether those ports are even open on that computer.06:43
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DiskgrindToma- Are you still here?06:43
gigaclonpower management doesn't work for me06:43
Toma-yes not for long tho06:43
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nomasteryoda|wdabaR, huh?06:44
dabaRhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2603 is the output of her netstat -ntl06:44
Dr_Willis'noacpi' as a boot time option - works for me - i think06:44
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DiskgrindToma- I just wanted to say thanks again.. I am in kde now...  cool beans!06:44
nomasteryoda|wwindows uses those ports06:44
Toma-awesome06:44
dell500how do you make graphs in openoffice?? :)06:44
Toma-Oris: there u go, 'noacpi'06:44
Dr_Willisnot tobe confused with 'noapic'06:44
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Toma-stick that in kernel parameters06:44
Dr_Willis:P which is sometimes ALSO needed06:44
Toma-oic.....06:44
DiskgrindToma- I am not used to the font sizes and will really have to find a happy medium.. though06:44
Dr_Willisedit the grub boot menu when its booted. (hit e)06:44
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Toma-Diskgrind: mess around with control centre06:45
dabaRnomasteryoda|w: she uses linux exclusively almost. Ill look into how much she used windows...06:45
MadpilotPPChow can I get a PPC-based Ubuntu box to play either Real or WMA streaming audio?06:45
DiskgrindToma-  I will have to, to be comfortable with kde06:45
OrisAhhh... Well, then i'm probably gonna search google...06:45
nomasteryoda|wdabaR, well if she did not turn on a firewall06:45
vladuz976which one gets called first, /etc/profile ~/.bashrc? and which one overwrites the path then?06:45
nomasteryoda|w.... dabaR and uses SMB....06:45
OrisToma: thanks though, now at least i know what to look for :)06:45
nomasteryoda|wsince SMB opens those ports for sure06:46
Toma-Oris: probably best.06:46
Toma-no problem06:46
Dr_Willisvladuz976,  the .bashrc will read /etc/profile if its told to do so. (like   source /etc/profile)06:46
vladuz976I changed the PATH in /etc/profile and rebooted, but it has no effect06:46
nomasteryoda|wdabaR, recommend Ethereal too06:46
Dr_Willisvladuz976,  thers also the .bash_profile06:46
nomasteryoda|wgood analysis tool there06:46
crimsunMadpilotPPC, you can still use w32codecs06:46
robotgeekcrimsun: nope06:46
Dr_Willisyou could just edit the .bashrc and set it how ya want for that user.06:46
MadpilotPPCcrimsun, on a Mac? didn't think I could06:46
Toma-Oris: i just hope the ubuntu team havent removed the acpi=off option from the kernel or something stupid like that06:46
vladuz976Dr_Willis, so how come, edititng the PATH in /etc/profile has no effect?06:46
nomasteryoda|wDr_Willis, for some reason my .bash_history went by-by at work... all 3 of them06:46
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nomasteryoda|wroot's too06:46
nomasteryoda|wi have no clue why06:47
crimsunrobotgeek, MadpilotPPC, sure. You just have to use the version directly from mplayer's Web site.06:47
Dr_Willisvladuz976,  it had an effect for me i think.. grep the files in /etc/ see what others are setting the path.06:47
OrisToma: i think i found the way.. (Google :D) Gonna try it know ;)06:47
nomasteryoda|wnone has access to the system06:47
robotgeekMadpilotPPC: beep has a wma plugin. realplayer,install realplayer06:47
nomasteryoda|wcept me06:47
dabaRnomasteryoda|w: she does not have the smb installed.06:47
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naliothMadpilotPPC: you can have the w32codecs., but they dont work06:47
nomasteryoda|wdabaR, which distro?06:47
dabaRcrimsun: Is that command supposed to list the ports that are open?06:47
nomasteryoda|wubuntu?06:47
dabaRnomasteryoda|w: ubuntu, off course, hoary.06:47
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crimsundabaR, no, only ones that are listening.06:47
Dr_Willisnomasteryoda|w,  Hmm... thats a 'sign' that somone may of broke into the system. deleting logs and so forth.06:47
nomasteryoda|wwell, install guarddog and lock those ports..06:47
nomasteryoda|wDr_Willis, true06:47
ghostdogi pushed the reload button in the synaptic package manager, there where packages that failed can i repair therm06:48
nomasteryoda|wDr_Willis, base security no doubt06:48
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nomasteryoda|wtime to check the rootkit too06:48
Dr_Willisyeppers06:48
MadpilotPPCrobotgeek, thanks, will try that. No way to get Totem running WMA on PPC?06:48
dabaRcrimsun: I dont see any port numbers out of the output of the command, wanna point it out? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/260306:48
oolonhi all06:48
robotgeekMadpilotPPC: not that i know of06:49
Draquitohey i need plz, i am trying to install openVPN, howTo says that i need Tun/Tap module, im using linux 2.6.10.5 but i can't see that module doing  lsmod, anyone have some time to help me?06:49
Toma-dabaR: try nmap06:49
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ooloncan anyone recomend a avi to mpeg app. I wanna burn a vcd06:49
MadpilotPPCrobotgeek, too bad, I like it when everything runs through one media player...06:49
linnergreetings everyone ;)06:49
nomasteryoda|wdoesn't mencoder (part of mplayer) do that?06:49
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nomasteryoda|wor transcode06:50
vladuz976Dr_Willis, PATH=~/bin:"${PATH}" change it to PATH=/opt/e17/bin:~/bin:"${PATH}" in .bash_profile if i wanna include /opt/e17/bin to my path?06:50
Dr_Willisvladuz976,  well you need to EXPORT it.06:50
robotgeekcrimsun: http://mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/README ,it says "Please note that most codecs only work on Intel x86 compatible PCs."06:50
oolonthanx nomasteryoda|w06:50
Dr_Willisi think for ine..06:50
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vladuz976Dr_Willis, but then it will only stay for this terminal, next time i log in it's gone06:51
Dr_WillisNormally i do a 'export PATH=$PATH:new/path/here06:51
crimsunrobotgeek, yeah, it seems that wm9 won't play on ppc06:51
robotgeekMadpilotPPC: mmy personal favourite for the moment is amaro for mp3's06:51
Dr_Willisthe .bash_profile gets read Only by login shells normally. the .bashrc gets read by all the starting shells.06:51
Toma-nmap os fingerprinting is the bomb :)06:52
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oolongoing with transcode06:52
robotgeekcrimsun: you can build it if you like, apparently..http://nanocrew.net/2005/09/01/compiling-vlc/ thanks to dvd jon06:52
Jack_Bwhere should kdeveloper be after installation?06:53
ryufreakhey oen of my apps froze, how do i close06:53
ryufreakone*06:53
nomasteryoda|woolon, cool06:53
Jack_Bryufreak, kill it in console06:53
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nomasteryoda|wthere is a qt frontend and i think a gtk one06:53
Toma-Jack_B: under the development menu of your Kmenu06:53
dabaRToma-: ok, well I do nmap -p 1-500 localhost, and I get http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2604 would you mind interpreting the output for me? I think it says only open ports are those listed, other ports from 1-500 are closed, correct?06:53
nomasteryoda|wfor transcode stuff06:53
Jack_Bryufreak, type in ps -A, look for the name of the app, then type in kill [pid] 06:53
Jack_Bthanks toma-06:53
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crimsunrobotgeek, yeah, but I'm working within the framework of universe atm06:54
Toma-dabaR: what are u running on this pc?06:54
robotgeekcrimsun: :)06:54
bobotHello there... Anyone upgraded ubuntu 5.04 to 5.10 using the instructions from ubuntuguide.org?06:54
ryufreakps?06:54
linnerhas anyone see this error when doing a modprobe ndiswrapper: FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted06:54
dabaRToma-: why? a ftp, ssh, and apache servers.06:54
robotgeeklinner: sudo?06:54
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Toma-and a mail server?06:54
naliothbobot: ubuntuguide is poison06:54
linnerrobotgeek:  nope i'm in root06:54
naliothlinner: that is a common error06:54
ghostdogi pushed the reload button in the synaptic package manager, there where packages that failed can i repair therm ?06:54
linnernalioth:  it is?06:54
Jack_Bryufreak, typing ps -A will list all the programs running06:55
bobotnalioth: why?06:55
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MadpilotPPC!+ubuntuguide06:55
naliothghostdog: you can reload all you like06:55
linneri googled it and the only thing i could come up with was in portugese06:55
ubotufrom memory, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.06:55
Jack_Bfind out the process id for the frozen app then kill it06:55
ryufreakJack_B: in a terminal?06:55
dabaRToma-: no, I dont think so, altho...that says otherwise... when I scan the domain name of the computer, so, blah.blah.blah instead of localhost, the 25 port is shown as closed.06:55
Jack_Bryufreak, yes06:55
Toma-dabaR: well it should all be good then06:55
dabaRdabaR: good being as I said?06:56
ghostdogi did but i saw sum packages that failed to be installed06:56
Toma-u could always add port 25 to iptables and close it up06:56
ryufreaki hope i choose the right one06:56
ghostdognalioth i did but i saw sum packages that failed to be installed06:56
bob2dude06:56
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bob2do not use netsta unless you know how to interpret it's output06:56
bobotnalioth: thanks nalioth06:56
bob2postfix is NOT listening to other machines by default06:56
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linnernalioth:  can you point me in a direction where i can fix it?06:56
brownie17what is colony 5?06:56
dabaRbob2: me?06:56
linnerbrownie17:  the newest  build of ubuntu breezy06:57
brownie17linner, thanks06:57
linnerbrownie17:  sure06:57
ryufreak  PID TTY          TIME CMD06:57
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Toma-bob2: better safe than sorry?06:57
naliothlinner: ask bob2 for a pointer, i'm not up on ndiswrapper, just have seen the error in here quite often06:57
ryufreakthose are what's listed06:57
Jack_Bryufreak, what's the name of the app that froze?06:57
shookiesup06:57
ryufreakxmms =/06:57
linnernalioth:  okey dokey :)06:57
Jack_Bryufreak, type in ps -A06:57
robotgeekryufreak: type killall xmms06:58
linnerbob2:  what do you know about this error:  FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted06:58
brownie17anyone know any video editing software that come with an install script? or on of them auto packages?06:58
bob2linner: that seems to be a highly useless error indicating that you need a newer version of ndiswrapper06:58
bob2brownie17: kino06:58
ryufreakOhh, capital A, not lowercase06:58
naliothbrownie17: cinepaint06:58
Toma-brownie17: avidemux06:58
linnerbob2:  nice.06:58
Jack_Brobotgeek: xmms freezes on my computer too, do you know why?06:58
shookieListen im having an issue with my usb camera. I cant seem to resolve it. Camera is a Kodak DX3500 and the error ... Cannot claim USB something06:58
ryufreakJack_B, thanks06:58
Jack_Brobotgeek: happens everytime i try to play a file06:58
crimsunJack_B, are you using the esound output?06:58
linnerbob2:  just synaptic it?06:58
Jack_Bcrimsun: esound?06:59
robotgeekJack_B: there's was a xmms bug on x86, i dunno if it has been fixed. anyways, use beep-media-player!06:59
crimsunJack_B, in Preferences06:59
crimsunrobotgeek, err, which?06:59
Jack_Bcrimsun: if i am should it work?06:59
dabaRbob2: well, did you read what my issue is? I got a email from ISP saying ports 42, 135-139, 445 are being blocked due to a security concern they have. so, I used nmap to scan what ports are open, and it did not list any of those as being open. ISP miscalculated the security threat? or alternatively, when I boot windows, then the security threat is there?06:59
robotgeekcrimsun: on bug day, there was one. i dunno if it was fixed06:59
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bob2linner: no06:59
linnerbob2:  oh...06:59
ryufreakso what's the best media player to use, if not xmms?06:59
crimsunJack_B, depends if you're using standard gnome audio settings06:59
linnerbob2:  what should i do then?07:00
bob2dabaR: no, that's just a normal misunderstanding of how TCP works07:00
crimsunrobotgeek, the free() stack smasher?07:00
linnerbob2:  go to sourceforge?07:00
bob2linner: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto07:00
linnerbob2:  i've got that07:00
Jack_Bcrimsun: ok i just switched to esound uoutput07:00
robotgeekcrimsun: not sure, am a ppc guy. i was testing bugs on ppc. din't bother with that one07:00
crimsunrobotgeek, that was due to xmms-flac and has since been fixed.07:00
robotgeekcrimsun: oh okay, noted07:00
bob2dabaR: you cannot detect that block from within your house07:01
bob2linner: you read that exact page?07:01
linnerbob2:  yes07:01
dabaRbob2: so, scan for it from here?07:01
dabaRI mean, from another computer?07:01
linnerbob2:  that's what i've been following up to this point07:01
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bob2linner: ouch07:01
linnerbob2:  i kmnow07:01
linnerknow that is07:01
Jack_Bcrimsun: OMG it doesn't freeze anymore, i lub joo07:01
bob2dabaR: it doesn't matter07:01
dabaRbob2: well, what, are the ports open and the computer infested, or not, to be blunt...?07:02
bob2dabaR: no, it has nothing to do with you07:02
Jack_Bcrimsun: do i have to change mplayer's output to esound as well? because that app always freezes on me as well07:02
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crimsunJack_B, -ao esd07:02
dabaRbob2: so they are wrong about the ports being open, or it was windows, am I understanding this properly?07:03
bob2dabaR: no, you're misunderstanding how tcp networks work07:03
dabaRok. so its still possible that my computer is a threat?07:03
bob2of course07:03
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dabaRbob2: what should I do?07:03
bob2if your isp claims otherwise, they're lying or stupid07:03
bob2dabaR: do nothing07:03
dabaRthey say I am a threat, and they blocked my ports. so they are correct?07:04
bob2dabaR: keep up to date with security patches, dont' run crap from untrusted sources and you wont' have issues07:04
Jack_Bcrimsun: err do i type that in console or something07:04
bob2dabaR: no, they didn't07:04
philcwhat is the command that is run to hibernate in breezy? it's not /usr/sbin/hibernate, that's swsusp2 apparently07:04
crimsunJack_B, yes07:04
vladuz976is skype in any repository?07:04
dabaRbob2: sorry, I dont get it. THey blocked my ports.07:04
crimsunvladuz976, no07:04
bob2philc: sudo /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh07:04
bob2dabaR: dude07:04
philcbob2: thanks07:04
dabaROr they said they did, anyhow.07:04
bob2dabaR: they blocked those ports coming into their network to *everyone*07:04
Jack_Bcrimsun: -ao, command not found?07:05
shawarmaJack_B: mplayer -ao esd07:05
shookieim having problems with importing photos from my camera. Seems like i cant resolve the issue. I checked online with no avail.07:05
Jack_Bshawarma, ok thanks07:05
dabaRbob2: ok, whatever, I dont get it, but, I do do what you said above, update the system, and do not install crap. thats all that matters. as long as you say I am to do nothing...07:05
Dr_WillisHmm. ever since ive gotten my wireless working (wlan0 is not 'up' at the moment) on my wireed network - the pings and other responses are real real slow..  Not sure what to look at to begin trouble shooting07:05
bimberiubotu tell vladuz976 about skype07:06
Dr_Willis64 bytes from 66.35.250.151: icmp_seq=1 ttl=50 time=74.9 ms07:06
Dr_Willis07:06
bob2dabaR: it's very hard to explain what they did without explaining how tcp/ip works in general, sorry07:06
Dr_Willisanyone  know if the wireless driver/config/setup could be messing with the system when im not using wireless at the moment?07:06
bob2very unlikely07:06
bob2unless it's a ipv6 routing thing07:06
Dr_Willisbob2,  Hmm.. thats possible,07:07
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Dr_WillisI dont use ipv6 at all.. guess i check the wiki on how to remove it properly07:07
shookieanyone?07:07
dabaRbob2: ya, ok, I got that. Its just that that place where they sent the email to is on the same ISP as I am, and I did not get an email.07:07
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vladuz976bimberi, thanks i added that but now i can't install skype because it depends on "libqt3c102-mt" which is not available07:07
bob2dabaR: then ask them if theyre doing it to everyone or not07:08
Travis|Hgah ok well i have that w32codec .deb ... i installed it doing "dpkg --install w32codec~.deb" and it seems to have installed .. but Totem still won't play WMV's07:08
oneifreakTravis|H: using totem-xine?07:08
Travis|Hgstreamer07:08
dabaRbob2: it says in the email that my computer is suspected. and that they blocked ports on my connection to their network.07:08
deFryskerm w32codecs needs totem-xine07:08
shookie??07:09
Travis|Hok then .. that makes sense07:09
Travis|Hthanks :)07:09
naliothTravis|H: newer microsoft media wont play07:09
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shawarmashookie: What kind of camera?07:09
shookiehaving prorblems importing photos .. could use someones help07:09
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shookieKodak DX350007:09
ryufreakanyone know how to install skins on xmms?07:09
vladuz976libqt3c102-mt is not available in breezy?07:09
shawarmashookie: Ok. What's the exact problem?07:09
bob2vladuz976: indeed, it's called libqt3-mt07:09
dabaRryufreak: add a .skins dir in your .xmms and put the skins there.07:10
dabaRor just skins in .xmms07:10
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Jack_Bcrimsun: did mplayer and xmms freeze because the default sound drivers were dodgy?07:10
dabaRno, it was trying to use a sound server that is not running on your computer, Jack_B .07:10
shawarmaJack_B: No, they were just waiting for the sound device to become available.07:10
deFryskryufreak, put the packages in .xmms/path/to/Skins07:10
deFryskryufreak, so do not unpack them07:10
shookieit seems like it knows what camera07:10
shookiejust doesnt want to download07:10
shookiei tried several things07:10
shookiebut im all ears07:10
deFryskryufreak, or sudo apt-get install xms-skins07:10
deFryskryufreak, or sudo apt-get install xmms-skins07:10
Jack_Bok cool fellas07:10
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ryufreakoic07:11
ryufreaki couldn't find the xmms path07:11
deFryskor is it xmms-themes nowadays ?07:11
shawarmashookie: You need to explain the "just doesnt want to download" bt..07:11
shookiewell I plug it in .. auto import window comes up... my camera's icon is there while its searching for drivers....07:11
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shookiesorry07:11
deFryskryufreak,  .xmms/Skins is the correct path07:11
shookieCannot claim usb port or something like that07:11
B_166-ER-X1152 oe 1280, that is the question (17inch)07:12
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deFryskryufreak, note the dot (.) it stands for hidden file07:12
shookiei did it under root as well07:13
shawarmashookie: Doesn't ring a bell, sorry.07:13
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shawarmaGotta run!07:14
bimberivladuz976: ah, there's a skype package for breezy here - http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/07:14
bob2Seveas: sure you have permission to redistribute skype?07:14
shookieAn error occurred in the io-library ('Could not claim the USB device'): Could not claim interface 0 (Operation not permitted). Make sure no other program or kernel module (such as sdc2xx, stv680, spca50x) is using the device and you have read/write access to the device.07:14
shookie*** Error (-53: 'Could not claim the USB device') ***07:14
mike__I have a question about installing files in Linux. (n00b)07:14
shookiethats my error07:15
deFrysk!tell mike__ about ask07:15
mike__what is this ask07:15
shookieit freezes that command07:15
ryufreakdeFrysk, thanks I got it installed07:15
bob2mike__: it means "please juats ask your question"07:15
deFryskmike__, read what ubotu said07:15
mike__shit, ok07:16
deFrysk:D07:16
mike__it isnt so easy as clicking an exe file07:16
mike__what steps do i take07:16
dabaRsynaptic is used to install programs in ubuntu.07:16
mike__i know i use the terminal07:16
bob2mike__: what are you trying to install?07:16
dabaRmike__: its easier. read the other url that ubotu sent you.07:16
mike__but the install files that came with the programs confused me07:16
bob2mike__: generally you do not use the terminal to install things07:16
ryufreakdeFrysk, do you know why the icon of xmms doesn't show up?07:16
deFrysk! tell mike about repositoreis07:16
ubotudeFrysk: I give up, what is it?07:16
mike__ok07:16
mike__thanks07:16
deFrysk!tel mike about synaptic07:16
ubotudeFrysk: Did you get hit by a windmill?07:16
bob2mike__: you need to be more specific and tell us what you're tryign to install07:17
deFrysk!tell mike about synaptic07:17
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deFrysk!tell mike__  about apt-get07:17
dabaRmike__: and, you usually do not install things from somewhere, but only from the ubuntu oficial repositories.07:17
bob2deFrysk: that's not very helpful07:17
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deFryskbob2, sorry , havent had coffee jet ;s07:18
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mike__thanks guys, gives me something to read... i may be back..07:18
dabaRmike__: what are you installing, tho?07:19
mike__i wanted XFCE07:19
ryufreakis there anyway to integrate a terminal onto my desktop?07:19
mike__and Winamp07:19
dabaRits in the repos07:19
vladuz976bimberi, thanks07:19
dabaRwinamp is called xmms in linux.07:19
dabaRhehe07:19
mike__just a bunch of software07:19
bob2ryufreak: integrate, how?07:19
mike__wanted to tinker with it all night07:19
deFryskmike__, linux uses xmms or beep-media-player , not winamp07:19
bob2mike__: normally you just select them in synaptic and hit "install"07:19
ryufreaklike have a terminal box right in my desktop itself07:19
mike__there is a winamp player for linux..07:20
ryufreakwhere i can actually type into it07:20
bob2ryufreak: why?07:20
mike__i wanted the internet tv07:20
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bob2ryufreak: how is that different to having a terminal window?07:20
ryufreaki hate constantly opening up a terminal, or alt tabing to it07:20
ryufreakespecially when i have 10 apps running07:20
bob2ryufreak: how do you plan to access it if it's "in the desktop itself"?07:20
dabaRryufreak: there is a command line applet in right click on panel>add to panel...07:21
dabaRbob2: maybe that is what he will like.07:21
dabaRor a non-yoda speak version of that sentence07:21
ryufreakyes i know that one, but i'm talking about a terminal directly on my desktop07:21
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ryufreakdirectly on my background07:21
bob2ryufreak: how would you access it?07:21
AdmiralSennwahoo, huge problems07:21
ryufreakclick here to hide all windows + show desktop =/07:22
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AdmiralSennI'm currently on my livecd because I managed to break something important07:22
OrisToma: :DDDDDDDDD07:22
bob2ryufreak: why don't you just use a seperate desktop for it?07:22
ryufreaki was wondering if it was integratable though07:22
bob2ryufreak: then it's one less click07:22
ryufreakwhat do you mean?07:22
AdmiralSennI was using Partition Magic to resize some of my partitions in windows (and now I know it's a bad idea to do that)07:22
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bob2ryufreak: do you know about virtual desktops?07:22
AdmiralSennand now grub tries to load but can't find any partitions07:22
AdmiralSennbut ubuntu setup finds them fine.....07:22
ryufreakdual monitors?07:23
bob2ryufreak: no07:23
AdmiralSennso I need to reinstall grub and/or fix fstab07:23
OrisToma: It works! I found the way :D here: noacpi apm=off acpi=off no-hit and it doesn't monitor temperature!07:23
bob2ryufreak: look at the bottom of your screen.  see 4 squares in a row?07:23
deFryskryufreak, the 4 squares in your panel07:23
ryufreakright, oh i see07:23
MadpilotPPCryufreak, by default Ubuntu has four virtual desktops running...07:23
bob2AdmiralSenn: chroot into your system fro mthe live cd, run "sudo update-grub"07:23
bob2ryufreak: click on the second one07:23
OrisToma: thank you - bye07:23
ryufreakyes i see that07:23
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bob2ryufreak: clicking on the first one brings you back where you are07:23
ryufreakthat'll work lol, thanks07:23
bob2ryufreak: you can bind keys to switch, too07:24
ryufreakhow so?07:24
Toma-cool07:24
bob2ryufreak: I have 12 desktops, each only has one app on it; ctrl-f5 gets me my editor07:24
deFryskryufreak, you can even set your mousewheel to switch desktops (forgot howto tho)07:24
bob2ust like I left it07:24
AdmiralSennbob2, uhh... how do I use chroot?07:24
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MadpilotPPCdeFrysk, ryufreak hover your cursor over the virtual desktop switcher, and scroll your mouse wheel...07:24
dabaR12 desktops heh07:25
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bob2AdmiralSenn: chroot /wherever/your/root/partition/is/mounted07:25
AdmiralSennI'm not sure how this will help since the livecd isn't seeing any hard drive partitions at the moment.....07:25
bob2dabaR: I'd have more but I ran out of function keys ;)07:25
MadpilotPPCI run 6 usually07:25
ryufreaki see07:25
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bob2ryufreak: system -> preferences -> keybdingins07:25
deFryskMadpilotPPC, Ah :) that one I did not mean but works fine , I ment the xfce4 way07:25
dabaRah, yes, the 12 f keys...07:25
ryufreakkeyboard shortcuts?07:26
bitblitk so if I install ubuntu 5.10 preview, can I upgrade in place when it is released?07:26
dabaRI dont use that, I roll up windows with the scroll button of the mouse in openbox.07:26
bob2bitblit: yes07:26
bitblitbob2, ty07:26
deFryskbitblit, yup07:26
Travis|Hhmm so i installed totem-xine ... wmv plays now ... however the browser plugin sort of plays 1-2 seconds of the clip and immediately stops and i can't start it again07:26
jdermeris there an easy way to upgrade my kernel with ubuntu07:26
bob2dabaR: try to avoid the mouse as much as possible, plus no scroll wheel on my laptop07:26
bob2jdermer: upgrade to what?07:26
jdermerlike a newer one i guess07:26
jdermerim sorta noob so bear with me heh07:27
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Travis|Hi need to download the wmv to my hard drive to play it back .. browser plugin is being fussy07:27
bitblitI'm trying to decide if I should switch from Gentoo to Ubuntu. I'm totally new to linux, and have Gentoo limping along. I'm tired of mapping mouse buttons and compiling sound drivers in my kernel :)07:27
jdermerGentoo and Ubuntu are my fav distros07:27
jdermerUbuntu is def easier tho07:27
ice_1963that's apt-get upgrade :0)07:27
bitbliti take it ubuntu works out of the box more?07:27
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AdmiralSennbob2, the point is that I don't have any partitions mounted!07:27
bob2jdermer: why do you want a newer one?07:27
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bimberiNow that is good - I added some extra desktops and presto, extra available keybindings to match!07:27
MadpilotPPCbitblit, for most installs, yes.07:27
bob2AdmiralSenn: ok!07:28
jdermeri like having new stuff07:28
jdermerbut the biggest reason is my video07:28
bosch07:28
B_166-ER-Xi have openoffice by default, is it worth installing openoffice2 ?07:28
bob2jdermer: ubuntu is not for you, then07:28
ice_1963bob2 hello07:28
JDahlB_166-ER-X, yes, most definitely07:28
deFryskbitblit, using ubuntu would make file very much easyer for you07:28
jdermerno i mean kernel07:28
jdermernot in general07:28
deFryskfile = life07:28
bob2jdermer: yes, I know; why do you need a newer one?07:28
HobbseeB_166-ER-X: as long as you get the most recent version07:28
boschhttp://forum.ubuntu.ru/index.php?topic=847.007:28
dabaRHas anyone repartitioned their ntfs hard drive using the live cd? I would like to know how easy, reliable, and what teh steps are that are involved.07:28
jdermermy video card 3d acceleration is being odd07:29
HobbseeB_166-ER-X: the one in the reps are very outdated07:29
jdermeri think a new kernel may help07:29
bitblitdeFrysk, rofl :)07:29
B_166-ER-Xsynaptic list 1.9.79.207:29
bob2jdermer: and the card is?07:29
bitblitwhat is Colony 5?07:29
HobbseeB_166-ER-X: yeah, it's up to 1.9.13007:29
Hobbsee!colony 507:29
ubotuHobbsee: I don't know07:29
B_166-ER-Xurgh07:29
jdermerintegrated intel i91507:29
Hobbsee!colony507:29
ubotuHobbsee: I don't know, could you explain it?07:29
deFryskbitblit, a pre-version of breezy07:29
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bitblitlooks like a different version of 510 that i'm downloading07:29
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dabaRbosch: are you asking a question?07:30
bob2jdermer: I'd be very surprised if going past 2.6.12 helped07:30
Hobbseebitblit: what version are you downloading?07:30
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bitblitsays ubuntu-5.10-preview-install-i386.iso07:30
thewayofzenquestion:  sound always works in gnome.  in xfce4 fluxbox or blackbox it always seems as though it stops working and will not work unless i type  est & into a command window.  is there a way to ensure that the sound server starts automatically07:30
bitblitnot sure what breezy is07:30
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Travis|Hbitblit: breezy is not officially out yet .. the current stable release is called Hoary Hedgehog07:31
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Travis|HBreezy Badger is slated to come out some time in October .. but there was a Preview Release (release candidate basically) that came out earlier this month07:31
cafuego_!info beagle breezy07:31
ubotubeagle: (Desktop search tool), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.0.13.4-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 777 kB, Installed size: 2668 kB07:31
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Travis|Hand the latest test version (and likely last to be compiled before the final version is out) is Colony 507:32
cafuego_Travis|H: 2 days ago, Colony5.07:32
bitblitTravis|H, so what should i get for a new install?07:32
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maeLinux ROCKS!07:32
jdermerbob2, can u tell me how to upgrade the kernel tho07:32
Toma-mae: no, i do.07:32
jdermerid like to try07:32
bob2jdermer: you can't, in general07:32
bob2jdermer: not unless you really know what you're doing07:32
cafuego_lying bot07:32
maeHas anyone given banshee a whirl? it is pretty buggy right now but looks very promising, there are so many features already in the short time it has been released.07:32
Travis|Hbitblit: well ... for guaranteed stability and compatibility with the unofficial ubuntu starter guide ... 5.04 (Hoary Hedgehog)07:32
Amaranth0.0.13? i thought beagle 0.1.0 was out with huge ammounts of fixes07:32
bob2jdermer: if you're having issues with the breezy kernel, you really do need to file a bug07:32
thewayofzenjdermer,  i tried to brave it and i ended up with a big mess of kernel panick.07:32
ice_1963with breezy can i jest install xfce4 not gnome?07:33
jdermerive recompiled a kernel before man07:33
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bitblitI'm confused because i have two pages up, both for Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy Badger), one says Preview, one says Colony CD 507:33
bob2jdermer: good for you07:33
jdermerim just asking if theres an easy ubuntu way like with gentoo07:33
bob2jdermer: the ubuntu kernel is pretty tightly coupled to the userland in ubuntu07:33
[LethAL] ice_1963, Yes...07:33
Travis|Hbitblit: well if you are going to install Breezy, install Colony CD 507:33
bob2jdermer: sure, make-kpkg07:33
ice_1963how07:33
cafuego_!info beagle breezy07:33
maeIs breezy still on schedule for october, or is it delayed?07:33
bob2jdermer: you're on your own when it breaks, tho07:33
bitblitTravis|H, k ty07:33
ubotubeagle: (Desktop search tool), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.1.0-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 827 kB, Installed size: 3052 kB07:33
Jack_Bwhere can i open kdevelop if i'm using gnome?07:33
thewayofzenbob2,  advice on having esd start auto matically in fluxbox/blackbox/xfce4  id rather not have to type esd & into console.. gnome sound ALWAYS works.. id kinda like that for any WM i use.07:33
cafuego_Yeah, thought so.07:33
vladuz976Seveas, what does your ubuntu-apt-utils do?07:34
Amaranthhehe07:34
ice_1963jest tip server07:34
Toma-thewayofzen: tinker with your .xfce settings07:34
bitblitTravis|H, I take it colony 5 is just an updated preview build?07:34
Amaranthcafuego_ apt-get update? :)07:34
Travis|Hbitblit: yea07:34
cafuego_Amaranth: sudo rm /var/lib/blootbot/ubuntu/*breezy*07:34
Toma-thewayofzen: also, ask in #xfce07:34
bitblitTravis|H, cool, ty.07:34
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bob2thewayofzen: I'd just make a ~/.xsession and run everything out of that07:34
AdmiralSennso anyone have any idea how to get back into my hard drive?07:34
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Amaranth*groan*, xchat won't filter out Travis|H so it beeps when someone says his nick07:35
Jack_Bhey fellas, how can i access kdevelop using the gnome gui?07:35
Toma-poor Travis|H07:35
Travis|H?07:35
AdmiralSennI suppose I could just reformat my partitions and lose all my data07:35
Toma-Jack_B: just run the command07:35
AdmiralSennwhich I'm not going to do..07:35
Jack_Bok07:36
AmaranthJack_B: install it from synaptic then it should either be in the menus or you can open a console and run it from there07:36
jdermerbob2, i got 2.6.10-5 kernel right now07:36
jdermerhow can i get to the .1207:36
Travis|HAmaranth: why is it beeping when someone says my nickname?07:36
ryufreakanyone have any luck installing an ati x800 series pci-e card?07:36
Jack_Bamaranth: it's not displayed in the menus07:36
jdermerim using 5.04 not 5.1007:36
dabaRTravis|H: thats his name.07:36
Jack_BAmaranth, i've already installed btw07:36
AmaranthTravis|H: I have it beep when someone says 'travis', seeing how that's my first name. :)07:36
Travis|Hoh i see :)07:36
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Amaranthi just turned it off for now, i'll beat xchat into working right later07:37
ice_1963i'm running kernel-2.6.12-107:37
bob2jdermer: wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryUpgradeNotes07:37
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Jack_Bholy crap kdevelop pwns my 128mb sd ram07:37
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Travis|Hanywho .. i'm having a bit of a funky issue .. i'm using totem-xine, w32codecs, and the Totem Mozilla Plugin 1.2.0 ..... when i open up to a page with an embeded wmv the video loads up fine and plays for a very short blip (1-2 seconds) and then stops .. and it won't let me hit the play button07:37
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Travis|Hi get a short blip of video and sound .. and totem can play the file fine from my hard drive07:38
Travis|Hjust the plugin is being fishy ....... anyone encounter that .. or have any idea how i might fix it?07:38
henkeTravis|H, I have the same issue. I havn't looked for a solution though.07:38
Travis|Hhmmm well its nice knowing im not alone .. thanks henke07:38
Toma-use mplayer plugin07:38
CryptidI Need Java2 Runtime From where Do i get it I cannot find it in Synaptic (i added the multiverse repos also)07:38
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MadpilotPPC!tell Cryptid about java07:39
dabaRCryptid: Sun's java is proprietary, and no other organization than SUn can distribute it, legally.07:39
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cafuego_Cryptid: Use java-package. See wiki.ubuntu.com/Java07:40
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esacwhat can i install to control power options, cpu frequency, suspend, hibernate, etc... ?07:40
MadpilotPPCIs there no RealPlayer for PPC hardware?07:40
bitblitMadpilotPPC, doesn't vlc play that format?07:41
ChousukeMadpilotPPC: Probably not.07:41
tristanmikeCan anyone help me with file transfer for a Yahoo account in Gaim, as in I can't. It appears that everything goes fine, no errors on my end, but when my yahoo friend get's the file, even a small screenshot png, it says it's an html on the other end and wont open07:41
naliothMadpilotPPC: sorry no07:41
naliothMadpilotPPC: we are red headed step children07:41
MadpilotPPCnalioth, meh. Any way to play Real streams, then?07:41
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tristanmikelol07:41
dabaRrealplayer for mac osx exists...07:42
ryufreakwhat does codec fall under in synaptic?07:42
cafuego_!codecs07:42
ubotusomebody said codecs was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats07:42
ChousukeThe only OS on PPC that works for all that proprietary stuff is OS X :P07:42
MadpilotPPCryufreak, use the Search button, it's faster than messing with the categories07:42
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ryufreakgood diea07:42
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ryufreakidea*07:42
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craftehwhen i click the logout button and the background is fading, my mouse starts to jump a lot. does this happen to anyone else? whenever the fading occurs it does...07:43
MadpilotPPCMy favourite local radio station streams only in Real & WMA (actually asp-something) and I can't play either on this machine! :(07:43
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bugz_is the livna ATI driver have 3d support?07:44
cafuego_MadpilotPPC: Email them and ask them why they don't podcast.07:44
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pussfellerREAL AND wma can ussually be played07:44
MadpilotPPCcafuego, I'd settle for a basic MP3 stream, frankly07:44
pussfellerreal releases a linux client, helix player or something07:44
Travis|Hso XMMS from the repositors uses gtk1 to draw the menu's .. is there a gtk2 version of xmms .. same question for gmplayer ... it seems rhythmbox and totem are gonna have to be pushed aside because they're not co-operating with me07:44
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ryufreaki just searched realplayer, and i think the command is sudo apt-get install realplayer07:45
pussfelleryou can get it from their website too07:45
ice_1963it is07:45
ryufreakMadpilotPCC, try it, and see if it works out for you07:45
MadpilotPPCryufreak, PPC machines use a different repository to x86 machines - I've already searched for it...07:45
ryufreakoh07:46
maePersonally I think java is dead.07:46
maenot yet, but eventually..07:46
AdmiralSennso.... say I'm trying to mount a reiser partition07:46
AdmiralSennwhat's the command?07:46
AdmiralSenn-t reiserfs?07:46
maebut it did have a place in pushing forth alot of new technologies building on its innovative ideas07:46
Chousukemae: It's widely used still :/07:46
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MadpilotPPCJava is going to be a long time dying, I think...07:47
maeChousuke, yah, i know its not dead now, but what I mean is that I think from this point it will just stabilise for awhile and then decline..07:47
alisherdoes anyone know how to make xchat play sounds. Where is the directory with sound files?07:47
maewith all the new portable languages like ruby/python/.NET and their cil and il07:47
maeperhaps the future for java will be putting it on cil/il and using it like that07:48
ryufreakSDK will always be building servers for big companies, it won't die for a while07:48
pussfellercil il?07:48
maecommon language infrastructure and intermediate language a la mono and ms .net07:48
JDahlmae, all technologies eventually are replaced07:48
maeJDahl, I disagree, C has been around for a looong time and is still widely used for many projects07:49
MadpilotPPCdog, FF has an awkward method of changing external app calls - Opera is so much easier...07:49
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maemainly because it is a simple low-overhead language which makes it play nice with many other software07:49
craftehwhen i click the logout button and the background is fading, my mouse starts to jump a lot. does this happen to anyone else? whenever the fading occurs it does...07:50
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tristanmikeany help with Gaim?07:50
vbgunzhey everyone... I think I found a bug with GPA for GnuPG... Can someone confirm?07:50
Cryptidcafuego & Madpilot i am getting this error when i try to download Java "E: Package j2re1.4 has no installation candidate" as mentioned on wiki.ubuntu.com this command dosent work "sudo apt-get install j2re1.4"07:50
dabaRhow do you make a server, such as gdm start when you boot? something along the lines of sudo invoke-rc.d gdm add07:50
naliothMadpilotPPC: most of the linux things (like realplayer) are compiled for x8607:50
dabaRIt does not start at boot atm, but can be started from the console.07:50
vbgunzdabaR: /etc/init.d/gdm start?07:50
vladuz976Seveas, how can i get access to download w3codecs?07:50
dabaRvbgunz: that would just start it at that time. I want it to start every time I boot.07:51
vbgunzsudo first*07:51
MadpilotPPCnalioth, I'm finding that out... I'll be glad to get back to my own (x86) machine in a week or two...07:51
maeJDahl, but ya in the long run, sure.. who knows, maybe in the future all processors will have a builtin coprocessor that translates some common IL which would be the zen of portability and performance :) a hardware solution for translating07:51
vbgunzvbgunz: oh, not on that level...07:51
dabaRstop talking to yuorself:P07:51
vladuz976bimberi, i can't use seveas' skype coz it depends on w3codecs and i need authentication to download that07:51
naliothCryptid: hoary or breezy?07:51
vbgunzcan you maybe once logged in go to system > preference > session > startup and config it there?07:51
naliothMadpilotPPC: yes you will then have an appreciation for what we PPC users go thru who choose to run linux07:52
Cryptidnalioth, hoary07:52
ryufreaki still can't get these codec's to work.....07:52
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vbgunzcan someone maybe help me confirm a bug with GPA for GnuPG?07:52
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ryufreaklibxklavier is the only codec in synaptic07:52
naliothCryptid: get your hot java here http://www.giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/07:52
tristanmikehot java, lol, that's funny for so many reasons07:53
dabaRvbgunz: heh. that would make gdm start after I log into my gnome-session07:53
MadpilotPPCryufreak, which codecs are you trying to get?07:53
ryufreakdivx, ac3, and something to run subs07:53
MadpilotPPCryufreak, no idea what a sub is, but the first two should work with w32codecs, AFAIK07:54
Cryptidnalioth, Thanx now i can install Azureus,,, ne can u tell me y did they remove w32codes and java from synaptic07:54
vbgunzdabaR: thanks... I am learning from your problem too ;)07:54
ryufreaksubtitle = subs07:54
vbgunzdabaR: Hope you get it fixed07:54
tristanmikeCryptid, they were removed from the repos, yes07:54
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vbgunzdabaR: how do you think that happened?07:54
Travis|Hryufreak: VLC supports subtitles07:54
Chousukeryufreak: just install VLC07:54
Cryptidtristanmike, but Y?07:55
ryufreakthat in synaptic?07:55
Dr_WillisW32codecs -->  http://www.giannaros.org/tor/bt/07:55
Chousukeyes.07:55
ogaIf I place a order of a few ubuntu cd's at shipit, will the hoary cd's be shipped, or breezy? (in october though)07:55
vbgunzhey everyone, I am downloading k3b because I need a burner... is this ok?07:55
Chousukew32codecs is in synaptic too07:55
Dr_Willisk3b is a very nice tool.07:55
MadpilotPPCvbgunz, sure. it's a better app than GnomeBaker, IMO...07:55
Cryptidoga, i breezy cd will be shiped i already placed the order for Breezy07:55
ryufreakcan't find it :(07:55
ryufreakusing search07:55
dabaRvbgunz: this guy has a weird hoary install, did not even install OO.o for him,07:55
MadpilotPPCChousuke, not any more it's not... ;)07:56
Cryptidvbgunz, get gnomebaker07:56
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Travis|Hw32codecs was taken out ryufreak .. i just went through the same thing not more than an hour ago07:56
vbgunzDr_Willis: When I selected k3b, a bunch of files got selected with it... I agreed to them all... should this be all that I need?07:56
bobulorgreetings everyone07:56
Dr_Willisvbgunz,  its a kde app.. so it will install most of the kde stuff.07:56
Travis|Hi got the .deb from the bittorrent site Dr_Willis posted and it worked fine07:56
vbgunzgnomebaker?07:56
Cryptidvbgunz, yes u will need all those files07:56
MadpilotPPCryufreak, are you following the wiki's RestrictedFormats page? it's all up to date07:56
ryufreakcould you link me?07:56
bobulorcrimsun: I'm in dire straights with my sound system07:56
MadpilotPPC!tell ryufreak about restricted07:56
Travis|HRestrictedFormats page still says to apt-get install w32codecs .. it was taken out of the repositories .. so that's a no go07:57
MadpilotPPCTravis|H, no it doesn't - it's up to date, trust me.07:57
ogaIf I place a order of a few ubuntu cd's at shipit _today_, will the hoary cd's be shipped, or breezy? (in october though)07:57
vbgunzit's cool... this is my first question along these lines... *if* I choose to uninstall a program I install through Synaptic will fragments of the application be left behind??07:57
Chousukehmm.07:57
Chousukevbgunz: configs.07:57
Cryptidvbgunz gettting gnomebaker is better u need to download a very sall file but in Case of K3b u will need to download all KDE support files so its better to get GnomeBaker07:57
Chousukevbgunz: you can purge them with --purge07:57
MadpilotPPCvbgunz, configs will be left behind, unless you choose "complete uninstall" in Synaptic07:58
Chousukeor by selecting purge from the menu07:58
Travis|HMadpilotPPC: I am looking at it right now https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats07:58
esaci am trying to install gnome-cpufreq-applet and it wants to remove ubuntu-desktop. any ideas why ?07:58
vbgunzthis is one of the reasons why I wish to switch from Windows to Linux... I have this belief nothing will get left behind on uninstall... slowing the system down, etc...07:58
cafuego_Well, except for the bit where gnomebaker appears to be unable to burn audio cds.07:58
bobulorcrimsun: sound only works for Totem Movie Player (crappily). When I talked to the computer help center for my school, they said to update all my drivers. But I don't know how to go about doing that.07:58
Jack_Bhow do i add shortcuts for programs onto the gnome taskbar?07:58
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MadpilotPPCTravis|H, please read the whole page - you need to add a seperate repo to get w32codecs...07:58
cafuego_esac: the cpu freq thingie should already be in the list of stuff to be added to the panel.07:58
esacvbgunz: i wouldn't count on it. unless you 100% know what you are doing, it is very often that you'll leave behind a dependency that is no longer needed07:58
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AdmiralSennokay, take two07:59
vbgunzChousuke: when and where do I use the purge command? does it go by itself on the command line?07:59
bobulorcrimsun: any suggestions?07:59
cafuego_Jack_B: Right-click the bar, choose 'Add...' and then choose launcher.07:59
AdmiralSennwhat is the option for the mount command to do a reiser filesystem? -t reiserfs?07:59
Jack_Bthanks cafuego07:59
esaccafuego: it seems to be a scaled down version of one i've seen before. i can't seem to set what frequency i want to run at with this one07:59
MadpilotPPCAdmiralSenn, "man mount" might have answers07:59
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crimsunbobulor, you're going to have to be considerably more detailed08:00
cafuego_esac: No, this one only reports what powernowd has chosen for you. (it scales depending on how busy the cpu is)08:00
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maewhats the name of the OSS project thats trying to clone howl?08:00
alexandrehello08:00
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vbgunzesac: that was just one of the reasons why I in a sense started to despise windows... things just kept getting left behind... The system got slower even if I unstalled it all... man..08:00
AdmiralSennI did that08:00
cafuego_esac: ie: When you're not doing much, it'll always be as slow as it can be.08:00
AdmiralSennit doesn't go over every single filesystem it can handle08:00
Cryptidcafuego_, Well Gnome Baker can make Audio cds i made 1 jus yesterday08:00
maeCryptid, have you tried serpentine?08:00
cafuego_Cryptid: Not on amd64 breezy, completely hangs.08:00
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alexandrei need help for Ubuntu ???08:00
esaccafuego: any idea what i can install to control that. unfortunately vmware doesn't seem to pass through its need for cpu and it runs as slow as a dog08:00
AdmiralSennmore specifically I need to know what filesystem ubuntu uses by default and what the mount option for it is08:00
MadpilotPPCAdmiralSenn, try "man -k reiser" - that will search the man files for resier...08:00
mahanguany recommendations for a ftp client i can apt-get?08:01
Cryptidmae, what is serpentine08:01
crimsuncafuego_, ugh. Where does it hang?08:01
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MadpilotPPCAdmiralSenn, ext3 by default, AFAIK08:01
bobulorcrimsun: how do I determine the sound system running in my computer? Would it be Alsa?08:01
cafuego_esac: Disable powernowd, that should force it to run at full speed.08:01
ogaIf I place a order of a few ubuntu cd's at shipit _today_, will the hoary cd's be shipped, or breezy? (in october though) ?08:01
Dr_Willisi tend to use 'mc' for my ftp needs. but thats old-skool08:01
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crimsunbobulor, by default, yes.08:01
ryufreakwhat does W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net etch Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B90708:01
ryufreak mean08:01
tristanmikeoga, breezy full release cds08:01
bobulorcrimsun, so, I should go hunt down alsa drivers?08:01
cafuego_crimsun: it convers the mp3 tracks to wav, then stops.08:01
crimsunryufreak, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptAuthenticationInstructionsForHoary08:01
ogatristanmike, you sure?08:01
Cryptidoga, Breezy will be Shipped not hoary08:01
crimsunbobulor, not yet. That's the last resort.08:01
ogaok :)08:01
cafuego_crimsun: I can cd to the tempdir then burn using cdrecord in a for loop without any problems.08:02
AdmiralSennnothing08:02
tristanmikeoga, yeah, if you order Breezy will be shipped not Hoary, in fact the shipit page says that08:02
crimsuncafuego_, hmm, ok.08:02
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bobulorcrimsun: what would be a good first resort?08:02
alexandrei install breezy on my laptop08:02
crimsunbobulor, cat /proc/asound/modules08:02
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bobulorcrimsun, in terminal?08:02
mahanguftp client for ubuntu, anyone?08:03
AdmiralSennwell, apparently it doesn't use reiser, ext2 or ext308:03
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B_166-ER-Xwtf, is that normal ? i just install openoffice2 from synaptic, and at the splash screen its 'Open office 1.1' but the 1.1 have a red X on it , and 2.0 over it, like 'hand-writen' !!??08:03
Dr_Willislol08:03
Dr_Willishow unprofessional.08:03
Cryptidmahangu, gftp is good08:03
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mahanguCryptid, does it ship with ubuntu? or do i have to d/l it?08:03
bobulorcrimsun: I typed "cat /proc/asound/modules" and got the reply "0 snd_intel8x0"08:04
MadpilotPPCB_166-ER-X, 2.0 is a beta still...08:04
Cryptidmahangu, download it from synaptic08:04
oneifreakB_166-ER-X: ive seen that before08:04
crimsunbobulor, ok. Are you using Hoary or Breezy?08:04
bobulorcrimsun, good question, I'll look around in synaptic08:04
B_166-ER-Xwell, it doenst look like openoffice2 from Breezy at all..08:04
ryufreak"Merge the archive key for debian-marillat into your default user's keyring" how do i do that?08:05
calvincan anyone help me with an EXE question (Very new to ubuntu)?08:05
smottjust ask08:05
crimsunbobulor, lsb_release -a will tell you08:05
JDahlryufreak, breezy is not every released, and you're already busy breaking it?08:05
calvinis there anyway to install exe programs in ubuntu?08:05
Dr_WillisEXE?08:05
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tristanmikecalvin, there are no exe's in linux08:05
tristanmikecalvin, exe is a Windows only file08:06
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Dr_Willistime for a wine/faq/ url.08:06
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tristanmikelol08:06
smottcalvin: we have elfs in linux, not exes08:06
ryufreakJDahl, I just want some codec's :( lol08:06
bobulorcrimsun, I use Hoary Hedgehog08:06
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calvinHow can I get photoshop for ubuntu, or can i"08:06
calvin?08:06
Dr_Willis!wine08:06
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Dr_Willistype "!wine" and read the bots message08:06
Dr_Willisyou MAY be able to run it with 'wine'08:07
ryufreakphotoshop is gimp08:07
crimsunbobulor, are you using an ~/.asoundrc or /etc/asound.conf?08:07
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MadpilotPPCcalvin, try the GIMP instead - it's installed in Ubuntu by default08:07
Dr_Willisor use gimp - it can do most all the basic tasks.08:07
B_166-ER-X!openoffice2.org splash screen odities08:07
ubotuWish i knew, B_166-ER-X08:07
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B_166-ER-X(..)08:07
bobulorcrimsun, will typing either one tell me?08:07
calvinis there any conversion?, I kinda need it for my online class for college08:07
crimsunbobulor, no. ls -l ~/.asoundrc /etc/asound.conf08:07
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aftertafboing :)08:08
ryufreakcalvin, why not dual boot windows if you need it?08:08
MadpilotPPCcalvin, you might be able to get Photoshop running in Wine08:08
Dr_Willisif the class is teaching photoshop - you will proberly want to use photpshop then08:08
aftertaflinner:  morning k: )08:08
linneraftertaf:  HEY!!!!!!!!!!!08:08
linneraftertaf:  i was just thinking about you08:08
calvinI lost my XP disk, main reason for being persistant about it in ubuntu08:08
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aftertaflinner:  nice ;)08:09
Dr_Williswine is a compatibility layer used by linux to let it run [some]  windows programs.08:09
calvinwhat is wine?08:09
Dr_Willistype "!wine" and read the bots message08:09
linnerdid you get all 12 of my emails this morning???  *laughing*08:09
calvin!wine08:09
Dr_Willis:) like i said earlier.08:09
tristanmikecalvin, have a look at gimp-shop, it's a plugin that makes all the menus and stuff as close to photoshop as possible08:09
Dr_Willislol08:09
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dbzdeath2!wine08:10
bobulorcrimsun, I typed "ls -l ~/.asoundrc /etc/asound.conf" and it said No such file or directory for "ls: /home/robert/.asoundrc" and "ls: /etc/asound.conf"08:10
aftertaflol linner yeah... 3, not 12 ;)08:10
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linneryou get what i mean08:10
Dr_Willis!beer08:10
ubotuNo idea, Dr_Willis08:10
ryufreakgah, damn codecs!08:10
linnerbig time probs with my keyboard08:10
ice_1963it's best to for get window's and jest use linux :0)08:11
aftertafhehe.... typing with forehead does have its disadvantages...08:11
crimsunbobulor, what about for ~/.asoundrc ?08:11
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vbgunzhow do I uninstall an application in which I installed through the command line interface?08:11
crimsunbobulor, err, sorry. Your statement was cut off.08:11
aftertafvbgunz:  with apt-get?08:11
calvinwhere can I find programs that are for ubuntu, games, utilitites and such?08:12
kingemerhey, the link for the docs in the topic needs a capital D08:12
vbgunzaftertaf: yes08:12
bobulorcrimsun, why?08:12
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vbgunzapt-get install gpa08:12
aftertafvbgunz:  synaptic... or apt-get remove.08:12
MadpilotPPCkingemer, good catch!08:12
aftertafvbgunz:  synaptic is a gui frontend for apt08:12
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Jack_Bwhat's a good firewall besides firestarter?08:12
Dr_Williscalvin,  synaptic - is the tool to learn to use and love08:12
crimsunbobulor, it's a local client screen width issue08:12
tristanmikeryufreak, did you figure out how to install that key, the apt authentication thingy?08:12
bobulorcrimsun, o08:12
brownie17bob2, i am using kino, which you recommended me (i think), and i go to open a ".mpg" file and it gives me an error, like invalid format or something08:13
vbgunzaftertaf: thanks!08:13
calvinwhere is synaptic?08:13
kingemerMadpilotPPC: just doing my duty :-)08:13
ryufreaknope08:13
Jack_Blook for synaptic under system, administration08:13
B_166-ER-Xhow can i have the last version of openoffice stable ?08:13
brownie17calvin, synaptic is the the sytem-> admin menu08:13
ryufreakbut i googled w32codecs, and found a place to get it08:13
bobulorcrimsun, i typed ~/.asoundrc and it said no such file or directory08:13
ryufreaktristanmike, try wget ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb08:13
ryufreaksudo dpkg -i ./w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb08:13
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bobulorcrimsun, with your earlier command it said the same thing about two other things08:14
Travis|Hugh so i am trying to figure out all this stuff for myself .. when it comes to CVS ......... CVS is just for obtaining sources right? ... or is there a special method for compiling the sources obtained via CVS?08:14
HobbseeB_166-ER-X: check out the ubuntu guide howto on it...08:14
tristanmikeryufreak, I have them, thanx, I just want to get that archive working08:14
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brownie17billytwowilly, nice name08:14
crimsunbobulor, right, that's what we were trying to figure out.08:14
HobbseeB_166-ER-X: check out the ubuntu forums howto on it...08:14
bobulorcrimsun, they were  /home/robert/.asound and  /etc/asound.conf08:15
cevizogluTravis|H, cvs is mostly for version control, but yes, you can get unstable source code with it08:15
ryufreakjust tested it, not working for me yet =/08:15
brownie17is anyone here familiar with "kino"?08:15
MadpilotPPCcrimsun, want to change the /topic, pls? typo in the UserDocumentation link08:15
ishitanyone can plz tel me how to get latest repositories for ubuntu08:15
cevizogluTravis|H, and if you get the release date right, you can get stable code with it08:15
crimsunbobulor, which totem are you using, totem-xine or totem-gstreamer?08:15
vbgunzhow do I use the purge command... I believe Dr_willis was telling me but never finished... anyone know how to purge?08:15
brownie17ishit, type "!repos"08:15
B_166-ER-Xwhy isnt always the last version of an app, thats listed in apt-get or synaptic ?08:15
ishitwhere08:15
linnerbrownie17:  kino is a game in vegas right?  :)08:15
linneroh wait that's KENO :)08:15
Travis|Hcevizoglu: but as far as the source obtained with cvs ... just compile it normal?08:15
HobbseeB_166-ER-X: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30866&page=29&highlight=howto+latest+openoffice - the last few posts of that08:15
brownie17linner, hahha08:15
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linner:)08:16
bobulorcrimsun, Movie Player using xine-lib version 1.0.008:16
brownie17linner, i'm not trying to gamble im trying to video edit08:16
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cevizogluTravis|H, yes08:16
Travis|Hok thanks08:16
HobbseeB_166-ER-X: who knows, but it's pretty easy to install following the last few posts on that thread08:16
ishit"!repos"08:16
linnerbrownie17:  yeah then going to vegas night be a problem08:16
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esacif i install a program that wants to remove ubuntu-desktop, is that bad ?08:16
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brownie17linner, hahah08:16
ced78ubuntu n'arrive pas a crire sur du ntfs?08:16
linner:)08:16
ishithow do i get latest repositories for ubuntu08:16
ice_1963that's bad lol08:16
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Hobbseeesac: that's a metapackage, meaning it has nothing in it...it's good to install it before dist upgrading to breezy though08:17
linnerdo we have a french forum?08:17
MadpilotPPC!fr08:17
ubotuwell, fr is Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais08:17
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linnerMadpilotPPC:  thank you :)08:17
cevizogluwhich works better with ubuntu - pentium m or the sempron processor?  I'm a newb with intel-compat. hardware08:17
crimsunbobulor, do you mean that the sound's scratchy and pops, or ...?08:17
oneifreakrad, 242M updates :P08:17
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ishitanyone08:18
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MustangMattAre there zimbra packages yet?08:18
dabaRishit: do you know how to see what ubotu sent you? if not, answer with the IRC client program that you are using.08:18
brownie17can anyone help me with Kino? i am trying to open a .mpg file in it08:18
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bobulorcrimsun, imagine every concievable problem with sound, totem has it right now: pops. scratchy sound, sound that isn't accurate to what I know I should hear, etc.08:18
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brownie17bobulor, sounds pretty bad08:19
bobulorcrimsun, and i have the interesting problem where the speed at which the music plays tends to speed up and slow down randomly08:19
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esacif im already running breezy and i do a dist-upgrade, will i get colony 5 ?08:19
bobulorcrimsun, and Totem is the only thing sound will work for08:19
brownie17i am getting an error with kino and cinepaint, can anyone help me?08:19
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dabaResac: or something newer08:19
ishithow do get a copy of breezy08:19
crimsunbobulor, I thought you said sound _doesn't_ work with totem08:19
brownie17ishit, if you are having problem with hoary, then you don't need breezy08:19
bobulorcrimsun, I just mentioned all my problems to the guy who put my os together for me, he said to go get a new kernel08:20
bobulorcrimsun, no08:20
brownie17ishit, http://tinyurl.com/85dry08:20
ishiti am havin a BIG prob wit hoary08:20
brownie17ishit, what is it?08:20
crimsunbobulor, what's the default audio sink configured as in System>Preferences>Multimedia Systems Selector?08:20
bobulorcrimsun, with totem iat leasti can hear something, with everything else i get no sound at all08:20
brownie17ishit, is it a bug or do you not know how to use it?08:20
ishitit does not instal properly on my machine08:20
bobulorcrimsun, ESD08:20
brownie17ishit, what mahine are you using?08:20
brownie17bobulor, try ALSA08:21
ishitp4 2.4ghz 380mb ram08:21
brownie17!tell bobulor about ALSA08:21
Feral_KidCould anyone plase tell me howI could install the latest version of fwbuilder 2.0.7? I am stuck with version 2.0.3, and that is impacting a project...08:21
bobulor!tell08:21
NaVihello08:21
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ishittheres never a clean installation08:21
bobulorbrownie17, ???08:21
scanwinderdoes anyone know if there's a way to minimize america's army?08:21
ice_1963ishit that's a good one )08:22
brownie17bobulor, you said you were having problems with ESD, so try ALSA08:22
NaViGot a question no one seems to knowfforsure.08:22
dabaRscanwinder: ctrl_08:22
ishiti hav a friend who is advanced in linux n he too has no idea08:22
brownie17bobulor, it is an alternative08:22
dabaRctrl+c to kill it.08:22
bobulorbrownie17, i switched, nothing is any better08:22
HobbseeNaVi: say it, that's a good start08:22
ishiti hav a new prob at every instalation hehehe08:22
brownie17ishit, well maybe it is just not compatable. there is a lady in here who has been trying for weeks to make it work, and it just doesn't.08:22
ishityea08:23
NaVidoes Ubuntu have SLI support or is it coming in the next driver update from nvidia?08:23
dabaRishit: if you want help, be responsive to questions you get asked, and ask your question in the proper way.08:23
brownie17bobulor, to switch to ALSA you don't just click switch, there are many settings which it teaches you in that there guide08:23
vbgunzcan someone help me map shortcut keys to seahorse GPG signing of documents?08:23
MustangMattdabar: I'm not asking about the official repository. I'm asking if anyone has built packages yet.08:23
ishitso i thought ill try breezy08:23
vbgunzI don't see anything in the options for a shortcut key...08:23
cevizogluishit, you should08:23
bobulorbrownie17, a guide?08:23
scanwinderdabaR: dosent work08:23
cevizogluishit, but if it fails you won't know for sure until stable is released08:23
scanwinderdabaR: just tried it08:23
brownie17ishit, if that doesn't work, try another distro or give up, because theres not much chance08:23
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brownie17bobulor, in that link i gave you08:23
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dabaRkill the stu^id game anyhow.08:24
MadpilotPPCnalioth, do FF extensions not work on Ubuntu PPC? I can't get Adblocker and a couple others to install...08:24
crimsunbobulor, did you just select alsasink in the default audio sink?08:24
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ishity is it havin these kind of incompatibility happenin08:24
NaViok what an answer08:24
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cevizogluishit, your hardware is probably not as common as other hardware08:24
brownie17crimsun, yes, i am telling him to do it the proper way08:24
ishitkk08:24
Feral_KidI guess that mean no...08:24
brownie17ishit, what graphics card are you using? what is the error? is it an X config error?08:25
crimsunbrownie17, he might need customsink -> alsasink device=plughw:0,008:25
ishitthats the first prob08:25
bobulorbrownie17, 1.) i dont see a link, 2.) yeah, i just changed to alsa in multimedia systems selector08:25
ishitbut i got a way to repair that08:25
brownie17crimsun, wel try it08:25
cevizogluishit, which is surprising because I've had great HW support from ubuntu over all kinds of hardware08:25
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brownie17bobulor, ill send it again08:25
brownie17!tell bobulor about ALSA08:25
crimsunstepping out for a moment, brb08:25
brownie17bobulor, there you go08:26
naliothMadpilotPPC: ymmv08:26
bobulorbrownie17, every time you say !tell bobulor about alsa, nothing happens08:26
naliothMadpilotPPC: not only do you have the PPC wall, but the firefox version inconsistency08:26
ishitthen some programs that i get through synaptic instal smoothly n dont work finally08:26
NaViI must have missed the answer08:26
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MadpilotPPCnalioth, oh, fun... this is 1.0.6, AFAIK, so it shouldn't be out of date08:27
ishithow big is the breezy downloasd08:27
ishitdownload08:27
bobulorbrownie17, it goes from the !tell statement to the bobulor... statement, with only crimsun's statement about stepping out for a minute08:27
cevizogluishit, around 650 mb08:27
NaViok one more try08:27
jamey3I am stuck in a loop! gnome-panel keeps quitting unexpectedly. When I choose "Close" or "Restart Application" the same thing happens. How can I fix it??08:27
bobulorbrownie17, still no link though08:27
brownie17bobulor, it should open another window message from ubotu, with the link and info in it08:27
NaViIs there SLI support yet?08:27
naliothMadpilotPPC: if adblock isnt written for 1.0.6, that's an inconsistency08:28
ishitshux08:28
brownie17NaVi, no08:28
Feral_KidThis almost making me what to go back to gentoo... <sigh>08:28
NaVioh08:28
brownie17NaVi, or so i hear08:28
NaViok second question08:28
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ishitthen once downloaded how do i instal it08:28
MadpilotPPCnalioth, it does work on x86, at least...08:28
brownie17ishit, how did you install hoary?08:28
ice_1963i got to go ishit brb :0)-08:28
ishitthrough a boot cd08:28
cevizogluanyone have success/failure with an AMD 64 notebook with ubuntu?  I'm considering getting one08:29
bobulorbrownie17, o, it put the link in another tab at the bottom of the window in a manner that made it seem like nothing had happened08:29
NaViI know nothing of Linux and or programming, how can I learn linux is there a beginner tutorial?08:29
MadpilotPPC!tell NaVi about docs08:29
jamey3NaVi, look on tldp.org08:29
MadpilotPPC!tell NaVi about cli08:29
brownie17ishit, it will be approx 650 meg. it is in ISO format, which means a cd image. you can use a program like k3b to burn it to a cd. but get the live cd first, because you need it for fixing stuff if the install dosesnt work08:29
bob2cevizoglu: the specific model is a lot more important than the architecture08:29
MadpilotPPCNaVi, the two msgs from ubotu should get you started off08:29
jamey3I am stuck in a loop! gnome-panel keeps quitting unexpectedly. When I choose "Close" or "Restart Application" the same thing happens. How can I fix it??08:29
brownie17bobulor, yeah, you needed to know what to look for. sorry i assumed you knew08:29
bob2cevizoglu: using linux-laptops.net and wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam is a better plan08:29
naliothMadpilotPPC: ppc users really have to love ubuntu08:30
jamey3can anyone help me?08:30
ishiti hav a live cd of hoary so wil it help me repair hoary version08:30
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MadpilotPPCnalioth, I'm getting this impression... too bad...08:31
ishitone big prob is that if k3b instals then limewire n skype dont work n vice versa08:31
net28l08:31
naliothMadpilotPPC: too bad for what/whom?08:31
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brownie17MadpilotPPC, so when breezy gets official release on oct 13, are backports encouraged? and where can i get a recommended file for sources.list like the one from ubotu for hoary?08:31
MadpilotPPCnalioth, too bad for both PPC users and Ubuntu...08:31
jamey3join #gnome08:32
jamey3shit08:32
jamey3haha08:32
bobulorbrownie17, fyi, i am arguably the biggest linux newb is existence. Im going through an online tutorial about basic linux (slowly), but I only know a few basic commands like how to sudo shutdown -h <time reference>08:32
MadpilotPPCbrownie17, no idea - might want to join ubuntu-motu, I think they're in charge of stuff like that08:32
naliothMadpilotPPC: i guess so08:32
nalioth!tell bobulor about cli08:32
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Burgundaviabrownie17, backports have been added to the default sources.list, just commented out like universe08:33
ishitcan an ubuntu live cd help me repair08:33
trans_erris there an up to date marilliat or something where I can install mplayer (with dvd support)? nerim doesn't seem to work anymore...08:33
brownie17bobulor, why not try doing things from the gnome menu for a while? to shut down you just go "system -> logoff -> shutdown" much easier for former winxp users :) i am noob too, but i am happy to answer any questions i can whenever i am on, which is fairl often08:33
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JDahlbrownie17, judging from /topic lately, I dont think Ubuntu devs encourage backports. Besides, you get a brand-new distro; why do you need backports?08:33
brownie17ishit, yes08:34
cevizogluMadpilotPPC, I like ubuntu on PPC a lot, it runs very well08:34
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ishithow do i do it08:34
wrabbit01Hey everybody.... Is there a tutorial/instruction site on how to install particular programs?08:34
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BurgundaviaJDahl, official backports are available08:34
wrabbit01I'd like to install a program but I can't work out how08:34
BurgundaviaJDahl, they are not actively discouraged08:34
trans_erranyone?08:34
brownie17JDahl, it was really just a question. but you said dev's don't like backports? in general or just breezy?08:34
meerkatwrabbit01: google.com ;-)08:34
Hobbseewrabbit01: what were you trying to insatll?08:34
vikMy usb disk used to work brilliantly via the inbuilt hub in my usb keyboard. I've now regressed to an older keyboard, and plug the drive straight into the motherboard. It no longer works. Any ideas?08:34
Burgundaviatrans_err, does the copy from multiverse not work?08:34
MadpilotPPCcevizoglu, this one is running very well, it's just the important little details I keep getting stuck on... :(08:35
wrabbit01meerkat: Trust me, I've been looking but nothing's making sense at the moment08:35
trans_errBurgundavia: it doesn't include dvd support08:35
ishitone big prob is that if k3b instals then limewire n skype dont work n vice vers. how do i correct this problem08:35
wrabbit01Hobbsee: World Wind08:35
brownie17vik, you change your user options? the light work? it show up in "computer"08:35
naliothtrans_err: just ask your bloody question. "anyone?" is a waste of time and bandwidth08:35
jamey3trans_err, I completely understand. nobody gives a fuck :)08:35
trans_errnalioth: I did ask my bloody question08:35
jamey3me too08:35
bobulorbrownie17, i typed "sudo mv /etc/esound/esd.conf /etc/esound/esd.conf_backup" and never got my terminal prompt back.08:35
tristanmikejamey3, lang.08:35
trans_errjamey3: cute08:35
vbgunzseahorse08:36
crimsunbobulor, any luck?08:36
kingemeri tried the live cd on my powerbook08:36
vikbrownie17: haven't changed a thing except the keyboard. The devices says its connected, but dmesg gives: usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 808:36
vikusb 2-1: device descriptor read/64, error -7108:36
vikusb 2-1: device descriptor read/64, error -7108:36
jamey3wow, thanks all.. that helped :P08:36
ishitu there08:36
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bobulorcrimsun, I went to some ubuntu site to do something to my sound system. I got three steps into it and one of the commands never gave me my command prompt back08:36
naliothtrans_err: dont put "anyone?" into hte channel, it does no good at all08:36
brownie17ishit, if you are talking to me, address me08:37
ishithow do i repair frm a live cd08:37
ishitk08:37
ishitsorry08:37
brownie17that's allright08:37
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trans_errnalioth: repsonses like yours don't do anyone any good-- its the same elitist silliness that I despised about the debian community08:37
ishitbrownie17: plz help me out08:37
crimsunbobulor, ok. I was hoping you'd wait before doing anything rash. Anyhow, what commands did you execute?08:37
jamey3ishit, what's the problem?08:37
brownie17livecd just lets you in, so you can correct setting changes you made that caused errors. i don't know why k3b won't co-exist, but it should. try a different buring in program. do you know how to use synaptic well?08:37
naliothtrans_err: well then we're both filling the channel needlessly08:37
tristanmikebobulor, try ctrl+c08:37
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ishitone big prob is that if k3b instals then limewire n skype dont work n vice versa08:38
brownie17ishit, i am basically a noob as well, if you want proper help you would be better asking direct questions in general08:38
naliothimho its better to repeat the actual question than issue an "anyone" or "please help me"08:38
jamey3have you tried graveman?08:38
bobulorcrimsun, i did everything through the first step in part 3 of this site: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3206308:38
trans_errnalioth: fun08:38
ishitone big prob is that if k3b instals then limewire n skype dont work n vice versa08:38
ishitthats the question dude08:38
jamey3nalioth, yeah but then people complain you're some foolish "repeater"08:38
Hobbseewrabbit01: where are you trying to download it from?  If it's a binary, you'll have to compile it yourself08:38
bobulortristanmike, Im not sure i want to make the command force quit though.08:38
brownie17ishit, and you need to give lots of information i.e instead of . k3b won't work.   you could say   i am running hoary with backports enabled and k3b gives me the following error "blah blah blah this is copied blah blah blah"08:39
tristanmikebobulor, fair enough08:39
brownie17ishit, do you know what backports are?08:39
ishitnope08:39
brownie17!tell ishit about repos08:39
brownie17!tell ishit about backports08:39
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ishitya wen i did an apt-get i got som backport error08:40
dabaR!tell brownie17 about msg the bot08:40
brownie17ishit, go to the links and read the info. repos or repositories are like servers for auto-packages08:40
wrabbit01Hobbsee: I have downloaded the .tar.bz2 file and it's sitting on my desktop.  I'm still googling for a basic installation tutorial for linux08:40
ishitya so how do i update08:40
jamey3ishit, it sounds like that's the real problem08:40
brownie17dabaR, forgive me, i wanted to show ishit how to use the bot.08:40
ice_1963k3b will work if you install cdrdal08:40
jamey3once you've sorted out your repos, update and upgrade08:40
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dabaRthere is nothing to forgive, off course...08:41
ishitk thnx08:41
crimsunbobulor, ok. Erase /etc/asound.conf.08:41
jamey3gnome-panel keeps quitting unexpectedly. how can I fix it?08:41
crimsunbobulor, then change the default audio sink in System> Preferences> Multimedia Systems Selector to customsink08:41
Hobbseewrabbit01: is http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/softinstall.html of any use to you?08:42
crimsunbobulor, in the box below customsink, type: alsasink device=plughw:0,008:42
ishitok at least tel me how do i repair through a live cd08:42
wrabbit01Hobbsee: Perfect.  Cheers.  I was just checking out linux-tutorial.info aswell.08:42
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wrabbit01Looks like I've got a bit of reading to do. :) Thanks for the help.08:43
cevizogluishit, repair what, your hard drive?08:43
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jamey3gnome-panel keeps quitting unexpectedly. how can I fix it?08:43
brownie17does anyone know what the hell the deal with the bots is? why are they abusing us?08:43
ishitthe wholw damn thing08:43
Hobbseewrabbit01: :) it's amazing what useful stuff google comes up with when you know what to search for08:43
bobulorcrimsun, just destory the /etc/asound.conf window without saving?08:43
ishitITS SO UNSTABLE08:43
cevizoglubrownie17, what do you mean?  asking the bot for things it doesn't know?08:43
crimsunbobulor, yes08:43
epiloci conquored my diskless fujitsu!08:43
Hobbseewrabbit01: np08:43
brownie17ishit, mind your caps please08:43
wrabbit01Hobbsee: Agreed. :)08:44
ishity wats the prob08:44
jamey3gnome-panel keeps quitting unexpectedly. how can I fix it?08:44
bob2instability is usually a hardware problem08:44
brownie17cevizoglu, no, the constant flow of people coming and going, the auto-bots08:44
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yahalomanyone find that mozilla works better than firefox?08:44
bobulorcrimsun, done. Test the pipeline?08:45
jamey3can *anyone* help me with my gnome-panel problem?!08:45
cevizogluishit, you wouldn't normally create a whole distro from livecd08:45
vbgunzanyone know how to map shortcut keys to actions such as signing documents with GPG? I am using Seahorse if it makes a difference?08:45
brownie17who can help me with a libgcc error? i get the following when i try to install avidemux: avidemux:  Depends: libgcc1 (>=1:4.0.0-7) but 1:4.0-0pre6ubuntu7 is to be installed08:45
cevizogluishit, unless you're really advanced with linux and running with really unsupported hw08:45
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cevizogluishit, in which case, you would just go buy supported hw08:45
aftertafboing!08:46
cevizogluishit, not like it costs anything nowadays08:46
NaViI have a good question08:46
brownie17yahalom, not me. other way around08:46
ice_1963ok08:46
NaVihow do you compile?08:46
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bobulorcrimsun, i made all the changes as you have  instructed08:47
brownie17bob2, you remember last time i got an error like ^^^^?? how did you fix it for me?08:47
jamey3can *anyone* help me with my gnome-panel problem?!08:47
epilocyeah, apt-get install kde08:47
NaViis there a step by step instruction tocompiling08:47
Hobbseelol epiloc :P08:47
cevizoglubob2: does linux-laptops.net only work if you have flash?08:47
brownie17jamey3, can you go into some more detail about the problem? why is it crashing? how often? any error messages?08:47
jamey3epiloc, haha08:47
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bobulorcrimsun, is there a way to open a window/tab in which I can carry a conversation with specific people exclusively?08:48
brownie17bobulor, yes08:48
brownie17bobulor, you just right click their name and press open dialog08:48
bobulorah, thx08:48
NaVii guess that was a bad question08:48
brownie17bobulor, try it on me08:48
HobbseeNaVi: have you tried http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/softinstall.html08:48
epilocdoes anyone know if there is touchscreen capabilities for ubuntu/kubuntu ?08:48
kingemerso i do computer repair work and things for a lot of extended friends, and i was wondering if i recommend ubuntu as a windows replacement if i should also recommend this channel08:48
jamey3brownie17, gnome-panel crashes *as soon* as I login after gdm. The only error message is "gnome-panel quit unexpectedly". I can then restart it or close it. Both cause the same error. I have no idea why it's happening, that's why I'm here. :)08:49
bob2brownie17: don't install crap from outside ubuntu08:49
NaViman u guys have a link for everthing08:49
brownie17epiloc, hm.. never heard of it not working, but i highly doubt it08:49
HobbseeNaVi: yeah, i used it above too :P08:49
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brownie17bob2, what do you mean? what did i install?08:49
bob2cevizoglu: http://linux-laptop.net/08:49
skysi read from spca2xx that i ahve to compile the kernel so that i can install this webcam driver. is there any way to do it? why do i have to compile?08:49
bob2brownie17: avidemux08:49
HobbseeNaVi: google finds lots of useful stuff, if you know what to search for08:49
bob2brownie17: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood, along with "apt-cache policy avidemux"08:49
ice_1963navi jest ask bob208:49
gchillouxbonjour08:50
NaViso if I ask google "how to compile" it will tell u08:50
tuskerniniGood morning, has anyone tried to run photoshop in wine?08:50
alisherwhat for?08:50
NaVich engine?08:50
tuskerninia freind08:50
alisheryou have Gimp08:50
bob2NaVi: no, there's no such thing as "step by step instruction tocompiling"08:50
tuskerninii use gimp\08:50
NaVioh08:50
bobulorbrownie17, when i type something in the window for a dialogue between us, does it come to you the same way as if i type "brownie17, ...."?08:50
tuskerniniGimp RULES08:50
epilocbrownie17: yes, i cant imagine any major co's providing such a high involvement driver for linux08:50
HobbseeNavi: well "install .tar.bz linux" is a good start08:50
alisherok, for friend there is sth called gimpshop08:50
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HobbseeNaVi: if you're compiling from source08:50
vbgunztuskernini: you're good with the gimp?08:50
bob2NaVi: what are yo utrying to compile?08:51
tuskerninii am trying to convert him... the friend.. is a litle slow08:51
skysis compiling a kernel very complicated?08:51
epilocbrownie17: we have enough trouble getting our wifi cards to work :)08:51
jamey3gnome-panel crashes *as soon* as I login after gdm. The only error message is "gnome-panel quit unexpectedly". I can then restart it or close it. Both cause the same error.08:51
alisherthey even adjusted the menus to look like photoshop08:51
NaViwell at least I'm learning something although it seems like i'm learning how not to be stupid08:51
bob2brownie17: hoary-extras is apparently incompatible with your system08:51
bob2brownie17: which is trivially true if you're using breezy08:51
skyshow about what they called a loadable module?08:51
HobbseeNaVi: dont worry, we all are stupid at times - some of my responses this morning went into the idiot category08:51
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brownie17bob2, it is!?08:52
brownie17bob2i am using hoary08:52
jamey3gnome-panel crashes *as soon* as I login after gdm. The only error message is "gnome-panel quit unexpectedly". I can then restart it or close it. Both cause the same error.08:52
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NaViis bob2 a bot or search engine08:52
bob2brownie17: then paste your whole sources.list08:52
brownie17bob2, so what can i do? buy a shotgun? or is there a slightly more delicate way to do it?/08:52
bob2NaVi: no08:52
NaVioh08:52
NaViman that was scary08:52
ice_1963lol08:52
crimsunbobulor, so you're using customsink now?08:53
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jamey3can someone help me with me gnome-panel problem?08:53
bob2brownie17: looks like their packages are broken08:53
brownie17bob2, i did didn't i?08:53
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brownie17bob2, ok, so it is not me?08:53
bob2brownie17: what does "apt-cache policy libgcc1" print out?08:53
makkkis freenx coming back to breezy?08:53
yahalomafter the fix my firefox still crashes, anyone else having this prob?08:53
jamey3can someone help me with me gnome-panel problem?08:54
bob2yahalom: does it affect other users on the same machine? are you using binary-only plugins?08:54
brownie17bob2, well one more question, with kino, i tried to open a .mpg file and it said invalid file type08:54
makkkjamey3, what is it?08:54
NaViwow08:54
bobulorcrimsun, when I open a dialogue box for us, do my messages go to you as if I had typed "crimsun, ..."?08:54
tuskerninijamey3, i dont have a clue as to what your problem could be.. did you look on the support webpage?08:54
jamey3makkk, gnome-panel crashes *as soon* as I login after gdm. The only error message is "gnome-panel quit unexpectedly". I can then restart it or close it. Both cause the same error.08:54
naliothjamey3: WHAT gnome-panel problem. please repeat the actual question at no shorter than 4 minute intervals08:54
jamey3makkk, gnome-panel crashes *as soon* as I login after gdm. The only error message is "gnome-panel quit unexpectedly". I can then restart it or close it. Both cause the same error.08:55
yahalombob2: every use. binary only plugins. i think so. havent installed any custom ones.08:55
jamey3I must've repeated it at least every MINUTE08:55
jamey3jeez08:55
brownie17bob2 its in flood08:55
vbgunzYO! how does one person go about setting up shortcut keys to use commands such as "sign, encrypt, decrypt, etc" with GPG? I am looking for a universal method of applying shortcut keys (Ctrl+Alt+S = Sign, Ctrl+Alt+E = encrypt, etc)... please someone help?08:55
bob2yahalom: are you using java or flash or not?08:55
NaVithis is weird:# tar xvzf package.tar.gz (or tar xvjf package.tar.bz2)08:55
NaVi# cd package08:55
NaVi# ./configure08:55
NaVi# make08:55
NaVi# make install08:55
bob2vbgunz: not possible08:55
windows_ate_my_bafter doing fresh install of ubuntu  ..then adding all the updates..last it was like 300++..it made my system run worse not better.anyone else with th problem??08:55
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NaViare these codes08:55
makkkjamey3, sorry, cant help you. not something i know about08:56
bob2NaVi: that may work on some source trees08:56
NaVie08:56
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jamey3makkk, oh okay08:56
bob2NaVi: in general, you don't compile anything, though08:56
NaViI don't know programming08:56
bob2windows_ate_my_b: if you have encountered problems, please do file bugs08:56
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cevizogluNaVi: those are basic compile-from-source steps to build oss from source08:56
bob2NaVi: so why would you try to compile anything?08:56
brownie17bob2, did you see what the libgcc1 pasted as? whats the answer to my kino question?08:56
bob2brownie17: never used kino08:56
crimsunbobulor, no idea, I'm not used to this client.08:56
bob2brownie17: it looks very much like the hoary-extras is just broken08:56
NaVioh08:56
bobulorcrimsun, but in case the dialogue window tab isn't going through, yeah I made the changes as you instructed08:57
bob2brownie17: try asking on the forums08:57
kingemerNaVi: those are commands that you type in the shell to configure, compile, and install the source code08:57
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brownie17bob2, you recommended it to me before didn't you? as a video editor!?!?!?!08:57
NaVii think I get it08:57
bob2brownie17: yes...08:57
NaViyou mean the x11 box08:57
bob2NaVi: just about everything you could want is in ubuntu already, pre-compiled08:57
kingemerNaVi: what are you trying to compile?08:57
bob2NaVi: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto explains how to install things, normally08:57
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NaViI don't know just asking what it is08:57
crimsunbobulor, ok, and testing the pipeline gives you...?08:57
vbgunzbob2, there are n helper programs and work arounds for signing documents from a universal shortcut key?08:57
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NaViI want to learn08:58
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bob2vbgunz: what are you trying to acheive?08:58
brownie17bob2, you cahnged your mind about it? why NEVER use it? is it dangerous?08:58
cevizogluNaVi, what bob said.  you *don't* want to try building sw when there are packages available08:58
bob2vbgunz: encrypt things that are on the clipboard?08:58
bobulorcrimsun, "Failed to construct test pipeline for 'Custom"08:58
NaViI don't like windows so I will try this'08:58
bob2brownie17: because I've never had the urge to edit videos08:58
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vbgunzbob2:  just trying to sign documents and clipboard too...08:58
bob2vbgunz: so, you need to be clearer about your goals08:58
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HobbseeNaVi: there's a fair bit to learn without compiling your own programs...08:59
bob2vbgunz: if you had some magic program run when you hit a certain key, what would it do?08:59
vbgunzeverything you would probably do with PGP Desktop 9 in regards to shortcut keys... Was just use to pressing some keys and signing, decrypting, etc08:59
crimsunbobulor, _uncheck_ System> Preferences> Sound> Enable sound server startup08:59
bob2vbgunz: I have never used PGP, so I have no idea what it does08:59
NaViok then what should I know first08:59
NaViplease sir08:59
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wrabbit01I'm trying to ./configure and it keeps telling me bash: ./configure: No such file or directory.  Any ideas?09:00
wrabbit01What am I doing wrong?09:00
MadpilotPPC!tell NaVi about synaptic09:00
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bob2wrabbit01: that's pretty clear09:00
wrabbit01There is no config file09:00
bob2wrabbit01: the file doesn't exist09:00
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wrabbit01So I can go straight to make?09:00
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Hobbseewrabbit: did you cd to the directory it's in?09:00
naliothwrabbit01: is there a configure script present?09:00
bob2wrabbit01: no09:00
vbgunzbob2: i wasn't beating around the bush dude, I ask specifically for a way or method to assign universal shortcut keys to GPG's signing, encryption, etc... I can't find it *or* find info on applying shortcut keys for programs like it *for future reference*....09:00
cafuego_wrabbit01: You're attempting to compile without having the first clue what is involved. So don't. What are you trying to install?09:00
cevizogluwrabbit01, read the INSTALL document09:00
NaVisynaptic (s-np'tk)09:00
NaViadj.09:00
NaViOf or relating to synapsis or a synapse: synaptic nerve endings; the synaptic phase in meiosis.09:00
bob2wrabbit01: you need to read the instructions that came with it09:00
cevizogluwrabbit01, or the readme, or whatever text file is there09:01
bob2wrabbit01: what and why are you trying to compile this?09:01
bobulorcrimsun, I unchecked the thing as you instructed, I still got the same error when I tried to test the pipeline09:01
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cafuego_... and another new X.09:01
wrabbit01the only documents that come with world wind are licence and version09:01
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bob2wrabbit01: then talk to the authors09:01
crimsunbobulor, in a Terminal, lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*09:01
cevizogluwrabbit01, is there source code there?09:02
alisherI thought you dont need to compile world wind, just execute09:02
vbgunzbob2: PGP isn't just about encrypting stuff... it's used to prove communication clear signed by means it *really* came from you... I use it constantly to slear sign important documents09:02
alisherthere is executable in the tarball09:02
cafuego_vbgunz: gpg, you mean?09:02
kingemerNaVi: for doing most things, you shouldnt need to use the shell09:02
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NaViok09:02
kingemerNaVi: if you want to learn, you could try http://linux.org.mt/article/terminal09:02
bob2vbgunz: to assign random shortcut keys to run programs, use gconf-editor to look at apps/metacity/global_keybindings to define run_command_N, then apps/metacity/keybinding_commands to define what they run09:02
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yahalomanyone know of a text based pdf viewer for console?09:03
vbgunzyeah, I know the command line bits and installed Seahorse but I did so to try and get at "shortcut keys"09:03
vbgunzCtrl+Alt+S = Sign, etc...09:03
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alisherwrabbit01: you dont need to compile worldwind, just click the executable09:03
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NaVithing is this guys I never ran a pc before ever09:03
Wipe-Outhey guys09:03
bob2vbgunz: dude, stop and think, this isn't magic.  seahorse is not magically going to rebind ctrl-alt-s for every single X appliction.09:03
NaViIm a mac diehard09:03
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NaViand who changed my name\09:03
Wipe-Outhow do i install gcc-3.4 it's not in synaptic09:03
NaViit was faheton09:03
NaViugh\09:04
brownie17bob2, when i use "cinepaint" i also get the same type of error.09:04
bob2Wipe-Out: what are yo utrying to do with it?09:04
bob2brownie17: ok09:04
ice_1963well navi it's about time09:04
vbgunzbob2, dude chill, smoke and mirrors, I appreciate it very much... being still new but trying to apply shortcut keys to something like GPG commands is a bit advanced for me...09:04
brownie17bob2, well.. .do you know what's wrong?09:04
bob2brownie17: no09:04
cevizogluNaVi: your mac is a pc too, a personal computer..09:04
Wipe-Outbob2: need it to compile ndiswrapper 1.309:04
kemikWipe-Out:  it is in the repositories09:04
NaViso tubuntu is the bestof linux?09:04
bob2Wipe-Out: the version of ndiswrapper in ubuntu really doesn't work?09:04
bob2NaVi: no09:04
bob2NaVi: it's a very nice one for new users, though09:04
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Wipe-Outbob2: nope09:05
kemikNaVi:  well, that depends on who you ask ;)09:05
bobulorcrimsun, done. nothing happened but Im told that's usually a good thing09:05
NaViHEHE'09:05
ice_1963lol09:05
bob2Wipe-Out: /msg ubotu repositories09:05
brownie17NaVi, what it tubuntu?09:05
Wipe-Outkemik: please be more clear, sorry linux n00b09:05
crimsunbobulor, paste me what you have in the customsink box09:05
bob2Wipe-Out: it's in the universe repository09:05
wrabbit01alisher: That doesn't seem to work.09:05
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NaVii meant Ubuntu] 09:05
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bobulorcrimsun: alsasink device=plughw:0.009:05
NaViugh'09:05
kemik!tell Wipe-Out about universe09:05
wrabbit01When un tarred, it creates a folder called linux and when I cd into linux this is what there is... "Config  Data  Fonts  LICENSE.txt  logo.gif  VERSION.txt  ww2d  ww2d.ico"09:05
alisherwrabbit01: it worked for me09:05
vbgunzbob2, thanks your answer I am hoping not only solves the gpg universal shortcut key issue but futurew issues as well... I really enjoy shortcutting my way around the keyboard... thanks!09:05
kemik!tell Wipe-Out about repositories09:06
crimsunbobulor, you misread me: alsasink device=plughw:0,009:06
brownie17NaVi, oh :) sorry09:06
NaVino im a bad typer09:06
alisherww2d is the executable09:06
crimsunbobulor, the use of a period instead of a comma will break things09:06
wrabbit01alisher: I doublt click on that and nothing happens.09:06
wrabbit01double*09:06
alishermaybe you need ./ww2d09:07
bobulorcrimsun, i changed to a comma, the test still failed09:07
vbgunzkemik: hello bro,09:07
ice_1963ice :0) at Navi09:07
kemikgmorning vbgunz09:07
bobulorcrimsun, do the lsof command again?09:07
Wipe-Outthx guys09:07
alisheror sh ./ww2d09:07
crimsunbobulor, lspci -v|grep -i audio09:07
alisherI forgot, but it was what I did09:07
wrabbit01alisher: Nope... that just gives me "./ww2d: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"09:07
wrabbit01thanks anyway.. I'll keep trying stuff09:07
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alisherso you need libstdc++ to be installed09:08
bob2wrabbit01: install libstdc++509:08
vbgunzman, learned my tidbit for the day and made better steps toward migration... I hope the last bit bob2 has helped with truly does help. I'll find out in the morning...09:08
bobulorcrimsun, I got "0000:00:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0059 (rev a2)09:08
bobulor"09:08
wrabbit01Ah, ok.. I'll try to work out how to do that.  Sorry.... first time installing anything.09:08
wrabbit01Don't mean to be such a newbie.09:08
alisherwrabbit01: wrabbit and some other dependencies, mentionned at ww2d site, read them09:08
kemikwrabbit01:  you install it with synaptic09:08
vbgunzkemik: be cool!, thanks bob2, relax, get a massage or something... if not pizza and beer :P09:08
NaViplease visit my homepage and take a look at my first pc build and first pc.http://homepage.mac.com/jymac/The_FhaeTon_Project/PhotoAlbum31.html09:08
kemikvbgunz:  i will;) gtg now tho09:09
vbgunzthanks fellas!09:09
kemikpeace09:09
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crimsunbobulor, paste the output from cat /proc/asound/devices onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl09:09
bob2wrabbit01: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto09:09
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Wipe-Outbye kemik09:09
alisherwrabbit01: WW2D depends on wxWidgets 2.6+ and libCURL so you'll need them to compile from sources and to run dinamically-linked binaries09:09
bob2alisher: eh? libcurl is in Ubuntu09:10
alisherI didnt have wxwidgets2.6+, just installed libCURL, but it worked anyway09:10
NaViI never new building a comp was so fun09:10
bob2alisher: as are the wxwdigets libs09:10
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alisherbut they werent 2.6 in Hoary09:11
NaVibut the OS part is not fun09:11
bobulorcrimsun, didn't i destroy the asound file earlier?09:11
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Mephist0hello guys.. i have booted with live cd to save my files.. since my hoary dist is not possible to boot anymore.. how do i mount my harddisk?09:11
crimsunbobulor, you said you did09:11
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NaViI think I had a problem with the Hitachi UATA drives so I purchased SATA 3gb drives09:11
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ice_1963Ghost09:12
ice_1963Boo09:13
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NaViman I'm gonna D/L all this info and read it on my psp09:13
ccooke*yawn* Wow. Still 20 minutes before I need to leave for work.09:14
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ccookeMephist0: anyone answered you yet?09:14
vikAny ideas why my usb drive stops being recognised when I plug it straight into the computer, rather than through a keyboard/hub (as worked previously)?09:16
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ccookevik: does it have a seperate power supply?09:16
vikthe device has its own power09:16
ccookeand are we talking a hard disk here?09:16
ccookeah09:16
vikyep - hard disk09:17
ccookehmm09:17
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ccookeif you do a 'tail -0f /var/log/kern.log' *before* inserting it, does anything appear when you do?09:17
vikhaven't tried that, but dmesg gives usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 309:18
vikusb 2-1: device descriptor read/64, error -7109:18
vik after inserting09:18
cevizogluMephist0, you need to know which device your volume is and maybe what type of format it is09:18
cevizogluMephist0, then you would do, for example, sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda4 /mnt/my_chosen_vol_name09:18
ccookevik: hmm. And it still works in the hub?09:18
vikyep09:18
bobulorcrimsun, i pasted it with a craptified screenshot because the initial version wasn't in a format the website could find09:18
ccookevik: okay. Tried googling for that error?09:19
ccookeit's not one I've seen myself09:19
cevizogluMephist0, with ext3 being your actual volume type and hda4 being your actual device for your hard disk partition09:19
vikno - will try it. kern.log gives same error as dmesg09:19
ccookeyes. kern.log just gets the output of dmesg. It's more convenient to use tail to get it, that's all09:19
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crimsunbobulor, ok, change plughw:0,0 to just hw:0,009:21
bobulorcrimsun, done. Test it?09:21
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crimsunyep09:21
indypendesomeone know if the script easy ubuntu work also for the 64bit version?09:21
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bobulorcrimsun, same error09:21
Mephist0ccooke, yeah now.. :) .. i was reading the wiki dokumentation too..09:23
bobulorcrimsun, the test didn't work09:23
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Mephist0cevizoglu, what is the usual filesystem.. is that ext3? .. well my hd is hda.. i made a dmseg09:23
vikccooke: just got it to work by issuing 'echo N > /sys/module/usbcore/parameters/old_scheme_first'09:23
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Mephist0mount /dev/hda /hda09:24
cevizogluMephist0, you could have formatted your drive as ext2, ext3, reiserfs, etc.09:24
vikmight be something related to old motherboard/usb controller and new device...09:24
Mephist0okis..09:24
ccookevik: Interesting. can you give me the URL you found that? I'd like to know more09:24
Mephist0cevizoglu, okis..09:24
vikccooke: http://www.mepis.org/node/586009:24
ccookevik: sounds sensible.09:24
crimsunbobulor, ok, change it to ossink09:24
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crimsunbobulor, osssink, rather09:24
ccookethanks09:24
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bobulorcrimsun, I changed the Output to OSS-Open Sound System. It changed the Pipeline on its own09:25
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bobulorcrimsun, Pipeline is all grayed out now. Test it?09:25
vikwhat is the Ubuntu Way to change options for kernel modules (i.e. things that once upon a time would have gone in /etc/modules.conf)?09:25
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Mephist0cevizoglu, what is the most usal filesystem then? that ubuntu uses to format drives? is that ext3?09:26
ccookevik: look under /etc/modutils09:26
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ccookesame syntax, but it's broken into files that packages can simply drop in09:27
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Kenshin12345hi all09:27
Kenshin12345need help :'-(09:27
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transgresswhatcha need?09:27
naliothKenshin12345: ask09:27
vikccooke - this is a bit wierd - the correction on the bottom of said website says it should be 'echo Y' not 'echo N', but 'echo N' worked for me anyway.09:27
crimsunbobulor, yes09:27
ccookevik: heh09:27
cevizogluMephist0, I don't know the default, it's either ext3 or reiserfs09:27
Kenshin12345Well I d/led gaim 1.5.0 and am trying to update my gaim-1.4.0 to it09:28
ccookeDefault is ext309:28
cevizogluMephist0, are you getting errors?09:28
Mephist0cevizoglu, then it must be ext3... i recognize that..09:28
bobulorcrimsun, same error. BTW, should Default Source have input with OSS too?09:28
vikccooke - just add a file with the options in modutils?09:28
Mephist0cevizoglu, root@c-a9c271d5:/home/ubuntu # mount -t ext3 /dev/hda /hda09:28
Mephist0mount: /dev/hda already mounted or /hda busy09:28
ccookecevizoglu: mount will automatically determine it anyway, in almost all cases.09:28
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transgressKenshin12345: did you download a .deb of it?09:28
cevizogluccooke, I know09:28
cevizogluccooke, unless it's hfsplus, ntfs, hfs, etc.09:29
Kenshin12345umm....ubuntu5.04.tar.gz09:29
ccookevik: yes. I'd suggest calling it something like "usbcore.usersettings" so you don't conflict with any possible future usbcore file from a package09:29
loststrykmorning all; has anyone had any experiance of installing pftpfxp-mew?09:29
crimsunbobulor, source doesn't matter09:29
transgressKenshin12345: if you wait or go ahead and upgrade it's in breezy... which is due out in like a week or some shit.. and stable as can be.09:29
crimsunbobulor, ok. You'll need to compile newer ALSA drivers.09:29
transgressokay not as can be... but pretty close09:29
crimsun!tell bobulor about alsa-source09:29
Kenshin12345k09:29
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Wipe-Outand i'm back...09:30
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Kenshin12345k09:30
Mephist0cevizoglu, i forgot the digit 1... hda1 ......09:30
vikccooke - then update-modules?09:30
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ccooketransgress: it's stable enough for me to run it on my laptop which I use for work, but changing too much for me to install it on everything else09:30
Wipe-Outgcc-3.4 is not in the reposetories09:30
bobulorcrimsun, holy cow09:30
crimsunWipe-Out, yes it is09:30
Kenshin12345also...How do I get rid of having to type 'sudo' all the time and is it a good idea to get rid of it?09:30
Wipe-Outno it isn't09:30
naliothKenshin12345: it is not a good idea09:31
siimoWipe-Out, what repo you looking09:31
ccookevik: /etc/init.d/module-init-tools restart09:31
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transgressccooke: i've changed to it on my lappy and desktop.09:31
Wipe-Outall of them09:31
Kenshin12345kk09:31
bobulorcrimsun, what does all that mean? Is that whole thing in step 2 a single command?09:31
Kenshin12345k, next one09:31
ccooketransgress: other people use my other computers, so...09:31
transgressccooke: and i use both for work.  only problem i had was recently fixed due to my bug report09:31
siimoWipe-Out, well i have it so you must not have /all/ of them09:31
crimsunWipe-Out, so http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=gcc-3.4 is lying?09:31
Wipe-Outi selected all reloaded and no gcc-3.409:31
Pyt3rhow config apt with repositor of sarge ???????09:31
Kenshin12345....I have a couple of sata drives that I can't figure out how to access09:31
ccooketransgress: what was that?09:31
Mephist0cevizoglu, now it works fine.. thx man!09:31
bobulorcrimsun, everything after "... terminal:" that is09:31
Kenshin12345they are both broken up into 2 partitions09:32
vikccooke - more info on the issue at: http://www.spinics.net/lists/usb/msg02644.html09:32
siimoPyt3r, sarge???09:32
transgressccooke: fixed fonts bug... they needed to add a dep to one of the packages.09:32
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cevizogluMephist0, yw09:32
Pyt3rsiimo, yes!09:32
Wipe-Outcrimsum: don;t know i'll have a look at it09:32
crimsunbobulor, yes09:32
ice_1963sudo passwd root09:32
siimosarge is not ubuntu its incompatible09:32
transgressccooke: it only seems to happen if you have both kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop09:32
Pyt3rsiimo, because ubuntu repositor's , have many packages09:32
Kenshin12345??09:33
bobulorcrimsun, does the && tell the machine that it has different commands? And can I just copy and paste directly into terminal?09:33
crimsunbobulor, copy and paste it.09:33
Kenshin12345How do I mount my drives....I kno it's a major n00bish question but u gotta start sumwhere09:33
Kenshin12345...09:33
siimoKenshin12345, what drives09:33
Pyt3rsiimo, you can help me?09:34
ccookevik: ah... *interesting*09:34
siimoPyt3r, with what? you cannot use sarge repo's with ubuntu09:34
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bobulorcrimsun, it won't let me copy and paste, I'll let you know how it works out one im done typing it in.09:34
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NSKhi09:34
Wipe-Outokay screw the reposotries09:34
Kenshin123452 sata drives09:34
ccookehmm. Better go to work.09:34
Wipe-Outhow do i install it manualy09:34
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ice_1963i can i run sid lol09:35
Pyt3rsiimo, but ubuntu repositer's have many packages09:35
cevizogluWipe-Out, dpkg09:35
Kenshin12345how do I private msg/chat??09:35
siimoWipe-Out, post your /etc/apt/sources.list on pastebin.ca09:35
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siimoPyt3r, whats wrong with having many packages? you dont download the ones you dont need09:35
NSKhow are ubuntu releases numbered?09:35
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loststrykhi guys; i know you guys probably don't support 3rd party spftware; but am trying to install pftpfxp-mew on 5.04; however it has issues with openssl; does anybody have any experiance with this problm ?09:35
grndslmNSK: by date09:35
Wipe-Outsiimo: please lamemans terms please i'm n00b09:35
SeveasNSK, by the month they are released09:35
Travis|Hhmm i'm connecting to a nsv (nullsoft video stream) which is basically a VP6 + mp3 broadcast over a shoutcast server .......... it plays using mplayer but its very badly out of sync ... any ideas?09:35
siimoNSK, year.month 5.04 is 2005 april09:35
NSKKenshin12345: /query nickname09:36
NSKoh, I see!09:36
NSKthanks09:36
Pyt3rsiimo, how add image in my boot loader ?09:36
siimoWipe-Out, maybe because of language differences you arent saying exactly what you want09:36
eliphas_when do they plan to fill in the backports for breezy ?09:36
siimoopps sorry09:36
Jack_BTravis|H, how did you set mplayer to stream from shoutcast servers?09:37
alisherbackports for Breezy?09:37
NSKis 5.10 preview good enough for production desktop use or should I prefer 5.04 ?09:37
siimoWipe-Out, open /etc/apt/sources.list in a text editor copy the stuff and post it on that website and give me a link to it09:37
alisherbackporting from what?09:37
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naliotheliphas_: when they finish making breezy09:37
siimoNSK, 5.10 is not out09:37
amichaiwhen i try to run root apps i get this: Failed to run /usr/bin/update-manager as user root: Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.09:37
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amichaiany ideas?09:37
Wipe-Outsiimo: well i need to install gcc-3.4 to compile ndiswrapper 1.309:37
siimoPyt3r, why would you want to add one manually its automatic09:37
MadpilotPPC!tell amichai about root09:37
eliphas_thanks all :)I will try to be a bit more patient then :)09:37
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Pyt3rsiimo, who?09:38
siimoWipe-Out, i want to see what sources you have currently so please post that files contents somwhere i can read it09:38
Wipe-Outsiimo: this i need because without it i can;t connect to the net with my screwy aptop09:38
NSKI need a stable desktop for production use. would you warn against the use of 5.10-preview ?09:38
Travis|HJack_B: just used "mplayer http://www.streamurl.com/stream01.nsv"09:38
Wipe-Outsiimo: please wait then i need to reboot into linux first09:38
siimoNSK, well it wont be supported if you use a development release09:38
Jack_BTravis|H, k09:38
amichaianyone?09:39
Travis|Hi just don't know what the deal is with my audio .. it's not synced to the video at all09:39
NSKwon't I be able to update to 5.10-final from 5.10-preview ?09:39
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cevizogluTravis|H, it's a known issue with mplayer09:39
siimoNSK, yeah you will be09:39
siimoNSK, it should be stable enough right now but if you run into trouble people will say why didnt you use stable version09:40
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NSKok I see thanks09:40
siimoor wait a few weeks and get the final version09:40
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bobulorcrimsun, it's cranking away at stuff. It said that more disk space would be used after unpacking and asked if i wanted to continue, I said yes09:42
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bobulorcrimsun, do i let it build Alsa drivers with ISA PnP support?09:43
crimsunbobulor, the bot told you09:43
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bobulorcrimsun, no, it just mentioned something about the universal repository and gave the bigass command. It gave no further instructions09:44
bobulorcrimsun, if it had i wuldn;t have asked you about it09:44
bobulorcrimsun, btw what is the universal repository?09:44
crimsun!repos09:44
Travis|Hhmm i think i fixed the sync issue buy just channging the latency to 600ms .. yay09:44
ubotufrom memory, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96909:44
crimsunbobulor, it's getting late, and I need to sleep.09:45
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bobulorcrimsun, what does the "from memory" thing mean?09:45
bobulorcrimsun, ok09:45
B_166-ER-Xlooks like a dont want to answer :P09:46
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Oxusi upgraded to breezy some weeks ago. I use aptitude to receive the last upgrades and now, i can't finish the upgrade. The program downloads all the files, do the order preconfiguring packages...but when it's reading the database, the system blocks. Do you know how to solve it?09:49
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cafuego_!bot09:50
ubotuI'm a bot, I'm a bot. Set fire to me, I'll get hot. Reply to cafuego_? I think not. Bot, knot, chicken... rhyming sucks.09:50
cevizogluwhat does "HP-ized Breezy" mean?09:50
B_166-ER-Xbreezy = unstable version..09:50
loststrykthat it's fruity ?09:50
Seveascevizoglu, special version for HP machines09:50
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calvincan anyone tell me how to install linux programs in ubuntu09:53
calvin>09:53
Seveascalvin, applications -> add applications09:54
Seveasor system -> administration -> synaptic09:54
AvatarofVirgoI have ubuntu installed as a dual boot next to suse, I'm on suse right now because ubuntu wont auto detect my external seriel modem.  Any idea why?09:54
Travis|His there a way to run a progam without having to launch a terminal .. i don't see a "Run" option on the menus09:55
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alisherAlt+F209:56
B_166-ER-Xwell i have one in applications09:56
naliothcafuego_: why is ubotu in #ubuntu-offtopic?09:56
Travis|Hthanks alisher09:56
Seveasnalioth, I put him there09:56
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Seveascomes in handy at times09:56
alisherHoary has "Run" in the menu, Breezy not09:56
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B_166-ER-Xhad breezy a few days before it crashed ; i saw something similar in there thought09:57
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bobulorarrgh09:57
alisheryes it was:)09:57
alisherbut anyway, AltF2 is handier than going to the menu09:57
calvini STILL CAN'T FIGURE OUT FROM EITHER OF THOSE HOW TO SELECT MY PROGRAM TO INSTALL09:58
calvinsorry, caps09:58
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Seveascalvin, caps won't help...09:58
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B_166-ER-Xcruise control for annoying.09:58
Seveascalvin, if you use synaptic: use the search, click on a package and mark it for installation09:58
Seveasthen hit apply09:58
calvinsorry, I can't type and look at the screen yet09:58
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bobulorseveas, I was downloading some repositories. After each download, the repository list would increase with a new item named after the apt. Is that normal?09:59
Seveasbobulor, that line makes little sense to me10:00
Seveas'downloading repositories'?10:00
jamey3I have figured that my gnome-panel problem is user-specific; it only happens to my account. Which config files can I delete/modify so that gnome-panel restores to the default config? I've tried removing the .gnome* and .gconf directories so far, to no help.10:00
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Seveas.gconfd10:00
cevizoglubobulor, give an example of the new item named after the apt?10:00
alisherhe meant added repositories though10:00
jamey3Seveas, ah thanks :)10:00
alishersure the list would get one item more10:01
bobulorseveas, checking them, clicking custom, adding deb http://www.grawert.net/ubuntu/ warty universe, and clicking ok to let it do its thing10:01
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Seveasbobulor, well, what that does is adding things to the sources.list10:01
Seveasso yeah, completely normal :)10:01
munkemanhello all im a new ubuntu user just wanted to drop in and say i switched from fedora10:02
Seveasmunkeman, welcome to the light side :)10:03
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munkemanand luv ubuntu10:03
Jack_Bwelcome dude10:03
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bobulorseveas, crimsun was trying to help me update my alsa drivers. I have no idea whats going on. but anyway he bailed on me so he could sleep when I had a list on my terminal screen that asked which alsa drivers to build. Only one thing had an asterisk next to it and i tried to selesct others by pressing enter. I guess I messed up. It immediately cranked away at a bunch of stuff10:03
SlicerDicer-Seveas, its the darkside with lightside powers like Dr. Evil but without the evil laugh :)10:03
jamey3Seveas, I've now tried removing .gconf, .gconfd (it didn't exist), .gnome2, .gnome2_private. I then ctrl+alt+backspace, re-login and the problem persists.10:03
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bobulorseveas, it finished but now my command prompt reads: robert@bobulor:/usr/src/mudoles/alsa-drivers$10:04
Seveasjamey3, logout, login in the console, clean out /tmp10:04
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aftertafre10:04
jamey3Seveas, thanks brb then10:04
SlicerDicer-btw is there any update on perhaps when nvidia drivers may be working with AMD64 and breezy? I havent been able to find any information on it10:04
jamey3btw how do you initiate a gnome logout from the terminal?10:04
Seveassudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop10:05
deepwoodzi have a problem... my screen resolution is very small... and it wont allow me to change it to fullsize... i have a intergrated intel processor10:05
jamey3ah of course10:05
jamey3thanks10:05
Seveas!resolution10:05
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto10:05
deepwoodzcand anyone help me?10:05
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bobulordammit10:05
deepwoodzcan*10:05
aftertafdeepwoodz:  sing and someone will hear :)10:05
Seveasrofl10:05
bobulornow none of my sound works10:06
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bobulori guess i'll see you all later, then.10:09
aftertaf:/10:09
cevizoglubobulor, did you type in the script or copy and paste it?10:09
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bobulorcevizolglu, i have no earthly idea10:09
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Seveasbobulor, crimsun is the resident alsa guru, my alsa knowledge is close to 010:09
Seveasbetter wait for him to return10:09
ChafffSalut tout le monde10:09
Skidhola10:09
Skid;P10:09
Chafffvoil l je fait mes premiers pas sous linux10:09
cevizoglubobulor: I thought you said earlier you were typing it in10:09
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aftertafChafff:  salut, bravo, mais en anglais pour pas facher les gens ;)...... et encore fliciations10:09
Chafffof course10:09
bobulorseveas, i know, and he bailed on me to go sleep in the middle doing something. so with him gone for the night there's nothing i can do10:09
xuniluserHow do i cancel/remove print jobs?10:09
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Chafffthank you aftertaf10:09
aftertafChafff:  you using the live cd?10:09
aftertaf2rien ;)10:09
bob2Seveas: what was with the ban on browie17?10:09
bobulorcevizoglu, all i've typed is what i was told by various websites or ubotu10:09
ChafffI will speack in english to make all the people happy10:09
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Wipe-Outand i'm back again10:09
cevizoglubobulor, you could try pasting the script ubotu gave you into your terminal and running it10:09
bobulorcevizoglu, at this point though, my level of frustration makes it tempting to solve the problem with the only thing that solves all problems: fire.10:10
Chafffyes I use the live cd10:10
cevizoglubobulor, don't type it in, if you get a single character wrong you could mess the whole thing up10:10
aftertafChafff:  ubuntu is good :)10:10
Chafffyes10:10
Seveasbob2, bot abuse10:10
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CryptidHow do i download .deb files i just download Java and W32codecs but i am unable to figure out how to install them do i use dpkg or apt-get to install them10:10
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Wipe-Outlol10:11
Chafffbut I have some problem to have the double screen10:11
Seveashe apologized already10:11
alishersudo dpkg -i ...deb10:11
aftertafCryptid:  try getting them auto with apt-get or synaptic...10:11
Chafffcause I have two screen10:11
bobulorwell anyway. Im out of here. I'll come back and beg crimsun for more help tomorrow i guess10:11
aftertafinstead of manual d/ling10:11
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Cryptidaftertaf, its not in synaptic10:11
aftertafChafff:  alors la, i cant help ;)10:11
aftertafCryptid:  my 2 pence worth...10:12
Chafffevil10:12
Wipe-Outsiimo, are you still there?10:12
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aftertafChafff:  there is also #ubuntu-fr in case ;)10:12
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Wipe-Outguys i've got the feeling my sourcelist is screwy10:13
Wipe-Outhttp://pastebin.ca/2409410:13
Wipe-Outis it okay?10:13
jamey3Seveas, I've removed all of those hidden config directories in my ~, then wiped out everything in /tmp, rebooted and gnome-panel still crashes. Is there anyway to delete my user account, then recreate it with a "default" gnome config?10:13
Chafffcann we make a private conversation aftertaf to speack about ubuntu and linux ?10:13
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Seveasjamey3, sure, make sure you have a new account first10:14
linneraftertaf:  hello :)10:14
aftertafChafff:  a bit later, yes... pas de pb...10:14
linnernalioth:  hello :)10:14
Seveasthen do: sudo adduser newaccount_username admin10:14
lorenzodjamey3, gnome-panel is a bit ustable atm.10:14
Seveasthen login as that user10:14
Seveasand do:10:14
jamey3lorenzod, why's that?10:14
Seveassudo userdel old_username10:14
lorenzodBut it shouldn't constanty crash.10:14
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Seveassudo rm -r /home/old_username10:14
lorenzodjamey3, bugs, I guess..10:15
Seveassudo adduser old_username10:15
Seveassudo adduser old_username admin10:15
jamey3Seveas, okay... my current username is "james" so I'll just create "jamey" and mv my old home dir *files* over10:15
lorenzodIf I try to add an applet to a panel, it works,10:15
linnercafuego:  remember my time/date issue.... it's still happening?10:15
jamey3Seveas, so just make sure I add it to the admin group?10:15
Seveasjamey3, sounds like a plan10:15
lorenzodAdding a second one consistantly crashes gnome-panel..10:15
Seveasyes, the admin group are the people who can use sudo10:15
jamey3"second one"?10:15
jamey3Seveas, cool thanks10:15
lorenzodA second applet, that is.10:16
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Chafffwww.agence-bitoku.com10:16
jamey3the weird thing is I haven't added/modified anything from the default GNOME panel and applet config...10:16
jamey3anyway brb gonna try migrating user accounts10:16
lorenzodBtw, jamey3, which version of gnome-panel are you using?10:16
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jamey3lorenzod, don't know... whichever is latest in Ubuntu hoary10:17
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lorenzodOK.10:17
vikashhi anybody help10:17
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linnerwb aftertaf_10:17
lorenzodvikash, help can only be given once the problem is known..10:17
vikashother computers on network using windows can't access my system10:18
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vikashi am using ubuntu 5.1010:18
jamey3how can I get into the Ubuntu recovery mode on boot up btw?10:18
vikashhi lorenzod10:18
cevizogluvikash: and you've set up samba?10:18
vikashi wrote the prob10:18
vikashi installed from synaptic10:18
vikashhow can i configure it10:19
vikashsamba and it's packages10:19
cevizoglu!tell vikash about samba10:19
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linneraftertaf_:  still having proxy issues?10:19
vikashwhat10:19
cevizogluvikash: you have to configure it, please read the wiki10:19
lorenzodjamey3, when you get the grub boot message, hit escape.10:19
vikashi add a folder in shared folder10:19
jamey3lorenzod, thanks :)10:19
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jamey3brb10:20
vikashwiki10:20
vikashwhere website10:20
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co_jomblohh10:20
vikashhi cevizoglu10:20
cevizogluvikash, it's the info ubotu sent you10:20
vikashcan u tell me how to configure it10:20
vikashwhere10:21
vikashthey sent10:21
cevizogluvikash, huh?10:21
vikashwhere is it in system10:21
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vikashplz tell me plz plz10:21
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cevizogluvikash, go to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba           <- to see how to do it10:22
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vikashok i10:23
vikashwill try10:23
wrabbit01ARG! :( I give up.10:23
vikashthanx10:23
wrabbit01For now at least.10:23
Echelon-Hhow can I know my cdrw path?10:23
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SlicerDicer-btw is there any update on perhaps when nvidia drivers may be working with AMD64 and breezy? I havent been able to find any information on it10:27
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calvinI'm back and am still having trouble installing the mpg player on ubuntu, from the very begining can someone help me?10:30
linnerOK.... between the time i just rebooted (10 minutes ago) and now.... my password to run synaptic has failed.  I haven't changed it either.10:30
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linnerok now it works....10:31
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ccooke-workRight, that *does* it.10:31
cevizoglulinner, you typed it wrong10:31
ccooke-workWhat is the *canonical* *default* *whatever* method of setting up networking in Ubuntu?10:32
ccooke-workand whose head do I have to break about it?10:32
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cevizoglulinner, not like I installed a keylogger on your machine or anything  :D10:32
calvin?can anyone help me with installing a mpg player?10:32
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cevizoglu!tell calvin about easyaddprograms10:33
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linnercevizoglu:  must have been... i typed it four times before i posted in the channel10:33
linnercevizoglu:  hehehehehe10:33
calvinthat still isn't helping me, when I open that, how do I find the program to install?10:33
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ccooke-workAnyone? Anyone I could talk to about it before I write my own system *again*?10:34
cevizoglucalvin, you should use synaptic, then there are several10:34
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cevizoglu!players10:34
ubotuit has been said that players is Audio/MP3 Players: amaroK, Beep-media-player, JuK, Rhythmbox, XMMS ; Video players: Totem, Xine, Mplayer, VLC10:34
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calvinI installed everything that said mpeg but what player do they work with?10:35
bob2ccooke-work: wtf10:35
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bob2ccooke-work: /etc/network/interfaces10:35
cevizoglucalvin: read above10:35
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ccooke-workbob2: No. That is not an acceptable solution. I can do some clever things with it, sure, but it does not deal with being on different networks at all well.10:36
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calvinthe only one in the list is totem and xmms and neither of those will open my files10:36
bob2whingewhingewhinge10:36
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bob2ccooke-work: loop at laptop-net or network-manager then10:36
calvintotem says no plugin installed10:36
ccooke-workI've been trying to get along with the network settinfs in the Ubuntu menus, but they're pretty much unusable for a laptop.10:36
cevizoglucalvin, you need to add more repositories then10:36
bob2and stop having such a terrible attitude10:36
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tanya#irc10:37
calvinthis is my first day in linux anything10:37
cevizoglu!tell calvin about repositories10:37
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vladuz976why doesn't ubuntu show the contents of /etc/motd when i log in a new terminal?10:37
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ccooke-workbob2: terrible? No. Irritated, yes.10:37
bob2ccooke-work: well, whatever10:37
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bob2ccooke-work: whinging won't help; improving laptop-net or network-manager to do what you want, would.10:38
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ccooke-workbob2: isn't there a solution in main I could help with?10:38
bob2ccooke-work: network-manager will go into main when it's less buggy10:39
bob2it was hoped that would be pre-breezy, but it was not to be10:39
ccooke-workbob2: ahhhh. So that was the answer to my question.10:39
ccooke-workbob2: *great*10:39
ccooke-workI'll go look at it right away10:39
ccooke-workI wonder if it does things the way I do :-)10:40
adlvladuz976, you can enable it by adding a line to /etc/profile10:41
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vladuz976adl, what line?10:42
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ccooke-workbob2: ... Hmm. Impressive. Thank you so much.10:42
jamey3Seveas, thank you very much... it worked perfectly. :-)10:42
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crodlerhi10:43
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jamey3hi crodler10:43
adlvladuz976, a "cat /etc/motd"10:43
henkgood morning...10:43
crodleris there any working iax client for hoary?10:43
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gorillahint: for xchat users join the #ubuntu channel last, to allow for xchat to authenticate your nick before attempting to join #ubuntu.10:44
aftertaf_gorilla:  :)10:44
sorush20when I try to go into administerator mode in the network settings, I don't see a button to let me go into that mood10:44
henkI have my desktop set up pretty good now, what whould i need to display and use it remotely on a windows box. (@ work that is)10:44
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sorush20can someone help please.10:44
jamey3henk, turn on "Remote Desktop" then make sure the port is forwarded10:45
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Skidneverball is quiet fun :)10:45
jamey3henk, make sure you put a password on it too10:45
henkjamey3, i was more talking about the client side10:45
SkidI can see that i'm going to waste hours on that :)10:45
dawkirstHello people.10:45
henki found the remote desktop thing, but now what :)10:45
jamey3henk, oh right well just use some sort of VNC viewer, e.g. WinVNC or TightVNC10:45
gorillawhats neverball?10:45
dawkirstI seem to have some difficulties concerning my printer.10:45
jamey3henk, tick the first checkbox and enter a password at the bottom10:45
henkah ok any recomendations ?10:45
Skidgorilla: it's like monkeyball - apt-get install neverball10:46
henkor should just try 'm out10:46
Skidfun :)10:46
gorilladawkirst, which printer?10:46
Skidhttp://icculus.org/neverball/#screenshots10:46
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dawkirstgorilla: it's a HP Deskjet 610C.10:46
jamey3henk, yeah both are pretty good, setting their options so that it works at a reasonable speed is the difficult bit10:46
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ColonelKernellol @ waterboy10:47
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jamey3woops10:47
henkhmm the passwordfield is limited to 8 chars... wierd10:47
ColonelKernel"you can do eet - cut hees ******* head off!"10:47
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ColonelKerneli forgot about that part10:47
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jamey3henk, yeah I've only just noticed that :)10:48
dawkirstgorilla10:48
dawkirstgorilla, any suggestions?10:48
jamey3henk, you might want to untick "Ask for confirmation"10:48
henki did already10:48
jamey3k10:48
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gorilladawkirst, not really it should just work... :-/10:48
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dawkirstgorilla: well, it does, but the printed material comes out all in scrambled symbols and greek letters....10:49
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henkjamey3, is it the vino-server @ port 5900 ?10:50
linneraftertaf:  are you there dear?10:50
aftertafyep ;)10:50
bzimagehenk, vnc you mean?10:50
aftertafcan you see my reply?10:50
henkuhu10:50
bzimageyep.. 590010:50
bzimage:)10:50
aftertafin cyberhell, noone can hear you peer disconnect :/10:50
henkk i'll forward that10:50
bzimageaftertaf, lol10:51
bzimage:P10:51
aftertafahhhhh. coooooool10:51
aftertafthought id become virtual10:51
gorilladawkirst, you need to install a postcript converter.. unfortunately i'm not sure what's involved.10:51
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bzimage*bip bip Flib*10:51
naliothaftertaf: c'mon man, enough denials10:51
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naliothaftertaf: we KNOW you10:52
aftertafdunno nalioth, does it come in 5's?10:52
aftertafnalioth:  are you on ritalin?10:52
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linneryou're too much aftertaf10:52
deepwoodzi have a problem... my screen resolution is very small... and it wont allow me to change it to fullsize... i have a intergrated intel processor... it tells me to run a command on ubuntu's site but how do i do that?10:52
deepwoodz:|10:52
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naliothdeepwoodz: in a terminal10:53
deepwoodzi c10:53
deepwoodzty10:53
=== bzimage bows for nalioth the great
aftertafi got worried my lag counter had stopped working10:53
aftertaflinner:  you on the correct time now?10:54
linnernope10:54
linner;(I10:54
linneraftertaf:  did you get my messages dude?10:54
naliothbzimage: many things are simple in the terminal (conversely, you can find yourself hip-deep in alligators with one stroke of the "enter" key)10:54
RMeist2.6.12-9-38610:54
dawkirstgorilla: ty; what exactly is the definition of a postcript tho?10:54
bzimagenalioth, true tue10:54
aftertaflinner:  pink floyd? yep i did. you get mine?10:54
linnernope :(10:54
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aftertafhangon...10:55
aftertafmode +e10:55
linnerhello?10:56
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gorilladawkirst, postscript is a langauge that better laser printers use.10:56
Skidhrm, this mac-on-linux, does it require a PPC arch?10:56
mjrSkid, yes10:56
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Skidmjr: alright cheers - I will have to break my girls laptop instead of mine then :P10:56
dawkirstgorilla: ty. Is there anyway I can detect the printer plugged into my machine?10:56
mjrSkid, see qemu or pearpc for running PPC macoses on x86 Linux. Slowly, tho.10:56
Skidaye, I've used pearpc before, didn't like it10:57
Skidplus, it doesn't like tiger10:57
cg1hi everyone, can some tell me how to use dpkg-buildpackage?  i am trying to set up my thumb buttons on my mouse and need to install the logitech tarball10:57
gorilladawkirst, I'm not sure... I don't have a printer here... :-(10:57
catcg1: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 or xorg10:57
cat!set up x10:57
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, cat10:57
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cg1thx cat10:58
dawkirstgorilla: ty all the same :)10:58
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catnp10:58
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linneroh no... here we go again aftertaf10:59
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dmacdonald111Hi all. I have been installing ubuntu, gnome and have been trying to set up my wireless network. I know how to do this, however, I seem to be having problems registering as owner to make the required changes. Can anyone help?11:01
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nalioth!tell dmacdonald111 about root11:01
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dmacdonald111Thank you! That's extremely helpful.11:04
dmacdonald111:)11:04
bzimageit still amazes me: the linux user root. (it a vegetable!)11:04
bzimage's11:04
ccooke-workbzimage: well... strictly speaking, it's not11:04
Skidor, a variety even.11:04
ccooke-workroot vegetables are tubers...11:05
stan|uni!tell stan|uni about root11:05
Skidroot vegtables,11:05
Skidbuh beat me.11:05
Skid:P11:05
ccooke-workwhich are a modified *kind* of root :-)11:05
Skidccooke-work: btw, fixed the issue with the k750i :D11:05
cathow do you stop gdm starting automaticly?11:05
bzimagestill.. its a funny username11:05
Skidits still to do with hald, but hopefully that'll be sorted in breezey for me :)11:05
bzimage:P11:05
stan|uninice function11:05
dmacdonald111Just one more question before I rush off to play again, what are Warty, Hoary & this badger stuff? Sorry if it's a silly question.11:06
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bzimagelike linus was working in the agriculture when he thought of root11:07
ccooke-workdmacdonald111: they're names for the different versions of Ubuntu11:07
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ccooke-workbzimage: actually, it's inherited from Unix11:07
ccooke-workthe root user is over thirty years old...11:07
bzimageccooke-work, i know that..11:07
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dmacdonald111ah. I haven't seen any reference to these when I installed.11:07
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Renskiwhats your first name dmacdonald111?11:07
CryptidWill please some 1 gimme the link from where i can download Java and W32codecs some 1 had givenit to me eariler but i forgot to note it down11:08
dmacdonald111er, Daniel. Why? :)11:08
naliothCryptid: hoary or breezy?11:08
Renskiah, its ok, I thought you stole my name.11:08
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Renski<--- Darren McDonald11:08
dmacdonald111hehe. cool!11:08
Cryptidnalioth, hoary11:08
loststryk<-- ronald....11:08
dmacdonald111lol11:08
ccooke-workdmacdonald111: Warty was the first (4.10) release. Hoary is 5.04 and Breezy is 5.10.11:08
Cryptidnalioth, i thin u were the 1 who gave it to me eariler11:08
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dmacdonald111I'll have a double cheeseburger please!11:08
naliothCryptid: http://www.giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/11:08
naliothCryptid: bookmark11:08
loststrykwould you like frys with that ?11:08
dmacdonald111ah! makes sense. Thank you cooke-work11:09
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dmacdonald111please lostsryk!11:09
loststryk:)11:09
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Cryptid nalioth, ya i will11:09
dmacdonald111anyhoo, could talk food all day, but I really want to get this ubuntu working. see ya lata!11:09
naliothCryptid: come back and see me when you upgrade to breezy11:09
ccooke-workbzimage: Sorry :-)11:09
loststryki'm loving this flavour11:10
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bzimageccooke-work, sorry?11:10
loststrykdoes everything i need apart from one thing11:10
bzimageloststryk, and that is?11:10
Cryptidnalioth, i ordered for Breezy god know when i will get it may be anoter 2 or 3 weeks11:10
loststrykgetting ftpfxp-mew working properly.... once thats done i'll rm -rf windows11:11
bzimageCryptid, download it.. (faster)11:11
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Cryptidbzimage, how many mb is it11:11
bzimagelike one cd11:11
loststrykunder 700mb11:11
Cryptidbzimage, its not yet the final version rite so i dont want to take risk11:11
bzimageright...11:12
bzimagefair enough11:12
bzimage:)11:12
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pamelahi11:12
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bzimage(aka problems)11:12
bzimagehi11:12
naliothCryptid: you can upgrade from your current hoary when the time comes11:12
gorillathanks peopel... I can see myself wasting plenty of time with neverball.11:13
pamelawanna chat?11:13
naliothpamela: in #ubuntu-offtopic, sure thing11:13
bzimagepamela, if its functional, ubuntu related, sure11:13
pamelaunsa?11:13
bzimage:)11:13
pamelayeo!11:13
pamelahi11:13
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naliothtagalog in #ubuntu-ph11:13
pamelawanna chat?bzimage?11:14
naliothpamela: this is not a chat channel, it is a help channel11:14
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pamelaambot!11:14
Skidlol11:14
Cryptidnalioth, can i upgrade my hoary to breezy using the cds without having to format and reinstall11:14
sskkWhen in the install process of ubuntu is hardware specifik packages/configuration made? - I'm trying to get ubuntu on my old drive-less thinkpad x21. I'm trying to hit a shortcut by moving my x21 HD to a thinkpad T21 (which has CD-drive). Then perform some of the install on the T21, and move the harddisk back to the X21, when I don't need the CD anymore. Will this give be problems on the long run? (wrong HW configuration or alike?)11:15
naliothCryptid: yes you can11:15
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Cryptidnalioth, oh good11:15
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stan|unipamela, pls join #ubuntu-offtopic for finding chat partners...11:15
cicccioosalve a tutti11:15
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nalioth!it11:15
ubotunalioth: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?11:15
stan|uninalioth, but there is still a risk in upgrading, isn't there?11:16
catcicccioo: #ubuntu-it11:16
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sobersabreare the xorg updates for breezy edible ??11:16
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sobersabre( the current ones )11:16
ccooke-worksskk: I don't know anyone who has tried it. The danger is if you need kernel parameters to boot your thinkpad correctlyh11:16
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lorenzodsobresabre, will know in a few minutes..11:16
Cordenhi to all ubuntu fans11:17
bzimagecicccioo: La scanalatura italiana di sostegno  # ubuntu-esso11:17
stan|unihoi Corden11:17
xukunist possible to copy and paste on console without selecting the right mice button and then copy? I have seen this before but I dont know how to do it11:17
=== ompaul just init 1 apt-get update /up grade init 2 and am happy
bzimagecicccioo: La scanalatura italiana di sostegno  # ubuntu-it11:17
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catxukun: install gpm11:17
Cordenhello stan|uni11:17
naliothcafuego: you here?11:17
ccooke-worksskk: installing the base system should be hardware independant, so if you wait until the reboot to install the rest of the systems, then swap the disk over... it should work.11:17
sobersabrelorenzod, please be fast :) i cann't wait.11:17
naliothbzimage: ubotu doesnt speak italian, the stupid bot11:18
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lorenzodsobersabre, so I'm your guinea-pig now ;-)11:18
ccooke-workxukun: yes. Just select with the left button (highlight the text) and paste with the middle button (press on the scroll-wheel if you have one).11:18
Cordeni have something to ask from you guys11:18
bzimagenalioth, that's why i translated... ;)11:18
Cordenhope you can help, i know you can :)11:18
ccooke-workxunil: there are two *seperate* clipboards for these, though11:18
sobersabrelorenzod, hmmm... that's another way to look at it.11:18
ccooke-worker. xukun.11:18
sobersabre:)11:18
naliothbzimage: i think ubotu hates italian, he wont even learn the phrase11:18
sskkccooke-work - so that's just about doing the basic install, and switch, when it would like to reboot, I guess... Thanks.11:18
bzimagelol11:18
naliothbzimage: havta get with cafuego to beat some sense into the bots head11:19
bzimage!tell corden about ask11:19
stan|uniCorden, fire away11:19
ccooke-worksskk: just remember - if your thinkpad needs special options to boot, you'll have to play with grub to get it working. That could be hard.11:19
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jnilwhat is the best application to get receive images from a usb digital camera?11:19
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lorenzodSlightly offtopic, but can anybody compare eclipse from the repos with the eclipse.org ones?11:19
catjnil: gtkam11:19
bzimagenalioth, haha11:19
bzimage:P11:19
stan|unijnil, gtkam11:19
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jnili tried gtkam11:19
sskkccooke: yes.. But can I be sure, that if it boots, then everything should be fine?11:19
jniland its not working11:20
Cordeni just installed ubuntu on my pc last night, i had a slave hdd, how can i access it and view all the files?11:20
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jnilit doesnt recognize my camera11:20
ompaullorenzod, you can if you install it and do a diff on the sources11:20
bzimagejnil, use the right module then11:20
bzimage;)11:20
naliothCorden: what was on the slave?11:20
catjnil: you need to configured it11:20
xukuncat, ccooke-work thanks guys it works now11:20
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ccooke-worksskk: no, you can't. But it *probably* will.11:20
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catxukun: np11:20
lorenzodompaul, wasn't really interested in the diffs at that level..11:20
ompaullorenzod, where it = sources11:20
Cordeninstallers and my reference ebooks11:20
nalioth!tell Corden about windowsdrives11:20
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ccooke-worksskk: without knowing the ins and outs of your hardware, there's no way for us to tell you with absolute certainty.11:21
retercat, i tried to add a camera. it rejects any choice i make11:21
xukuncat, can you also help me installing skype on ubuntu hoary11:21
xukun?11:21
sskkcoo11:21
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sskkccooke: right - thanks then... I'll go experiment.11:21
ompaullorenzod, what I suggest is that you look at the version number in use on Ubuntu and the version number on the site and then check the changelog for differences11:21
bzimageCorden, also notice: windows installers may not work (if using wine) at all on Linux.11:21
Cordenso what would i do to have access and view my files?11:22
xukunI dont find anything with apt-cache search skype11:22
bzimageCorden, read the ubotu message11:22
xukunwhat do I need to add in my sources.list?11:22
JuharantoYou must add skype to your repository11:22
aftertafrepeated ping shows 15% avg packet loss for proxy....11:22
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linneraftertaf:  that's sad11:23
Cordenon ububtu documentation?11:23
bzimageyes11:23
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naliothCorden: ubotu sent you a private msg with info to answer your question11:23
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Juharantoxukun:  check this:11:23
Juharantohttp://www.skype.com/products/skype/linux/repositories.html11:23
linneraftertaf:  and it sucks for someone trying to carry on a conversation with you11:23
bzimageJuharanto, why does het NEED that?11:24
bzimage:P11:24
xukunJuharanto, thanks a lot11:24
Cordentnx nalioth11:24
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drazQdoes ubuntu have support for Sun's java? The wiki is a bit diffuse, it says "(..)assuming they happen to11:24
drazQ               support your platform." ..11:24
JuharantoHmm..11:24
bzimagexukun, your free to add repositories as you like. (but keep in mind that mixing official repos with non official ones can damage your system!)11:25
naliothdrazQ: hoary or breezy? x86 or ppc or amd64?11:25
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drazQamd64/breezy11:25
linnernight knelix11:25
drazQ1.4.2 and 1.511:25
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xukunbzimage, if there is other way please tel me11:25
JuharantoI have amd64 and breezy works greatfully!11:25
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bzimagexukun, for a start, you could add the multiverse and universe repos to your list11:26
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ompaul!tell drazQ about java11:26
bzimage(wich are commented out by default)11:26
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bzimage!tell xukun about repos11:26
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retercat, any suggestions? any other usb digital camera programs to try?11:27
drazQompaul: I've read the wiki; As I said, I find it a bit diffuse, as they state 'assuming they (Sun) support your platform' .. I'm considering Ubuntu, so Ubuntu is debian, debian is linux, and linux is supported .. correct? *confused* :)11:27
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naliothdrazQ: java is easily procured for your platform from Sun, and installed following the wiki11:28
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ompauldrazQ, be unconfused, it does work on Ubuntu11:28
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lorenzoddrazQ, not only your os needs to be supported, but your hardware architecture as well..11:29
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bzimagedrazQ, correct. (but each distribution: linux flavour, has it's own package system. So using a prepackaged piece of software for a certain distro is handy)11:29
linnergoodnight everyone11:29
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xukunbzimage, this is what I have, can you please take a look? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/260911:29
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sobersabrelorenzod, what's up with xorg ... ? :)11:29
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drazQok, thanks guys .. just needed to confirm that I will be able to install the official release11:30
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_pir helo.. is there any ability in bmp to quick search in the play list.. (like F3 in winamp)..?11:30
lorenzodsobersabre: finished downloading, installing.11:30
ompaul+r ? anyone bots are there11:31
lorenzodWhen you see me quit, that means, I'm logging out/in..11:31
lorenzodHopefully you'll see me back online a few minutes later :)11:31
naliothompaul: bots?11:31
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lemmyhi11:31
bzimagexukun, avoid double entries11:32
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bzimagebut is looks ok..11:32
lemmyi just upgraded to latest kernel in breezy and now my bootsplash i gone. anybody knows how to turn it back on?11:32
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bzimagereload the repos list..11:32
ompaulnalioth, zolgiiu and one or two others11:32
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bzimage(via synaptic or via command: sudo apt-get update)11:33
hutgyrrif I want to backup to multiple disks (DVDs or Hard Drives). Can I get external arrays, and can they be controlled simultaneously from linux?11:33
xukunbzimage, but that sources.list I still cant apt-get skype11:33
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xukunbzimage, ..with that ..11:33
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bzimageooh you want skype... i didn't know that..11:33
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bzimage(i thought you just wanted extra repositories)11:33
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xukunbzimage, yes I want skype11:34
bzimagewell.. than Juharanto made a good reply11:34
ompaulxukun, have you got the lib3c-mt installed?11:34
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xukunbzimage, aha11:34
xukunompaul, sec please11:34
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bzimagexukun, Juharanto xukun:  check this:11:34
bzimageJuharanto http://www.skype.com/products/skype/linux/repositories.html11:34
bzimage(c/p form earlier)11:35
bzimageerr11:35
bzimagefrom11:35
xukunbzimage,but then you said:  xukun, your free to add repositories as you like. (but keep in mind that mixing official repos with non official ones can damage your system!)11:35
deFryskhttp://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/breezy-extras/skype_1.2.0.17-1_i386.deb11:35
bzimagexukun, that's right... there's allways a certain danger...11:36
xukunbzimage, you made me think twise11:36
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Qantouriscwhat is the terminal package manger for ubuntu ( need to upgrade in the hope x wil lwork then)11:37
bzimagexukun, download the skype file deFrysk gave you11:37
naliothxukun: better to compile from source (or have your machine do it) than use unofficial stuff11:37
nalioth!tell Qantourisc about apt11:37
Qantouriscaa so ubunut used apt with a gui over it11:37
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bzimageQantourisc, no.. it uses apt.. and also have a gui over it :)11:38
bzimage(but you still can use it without gui)11:38
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bzimagewell.. gui.. X gui to be precise ;)11:38
Qantourisc:p11:38
Qantouriscgui = graphical unit interface :p11:39
Qantouriscso can be a lot :p X, web, etz. ..11:39
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bzimageuser not unit11:39
bzimage:P11:39
xukunompaul, no lib3c-mt installed11:39
Qantourisclol oeps :p11:39
xukunbzimage, I get the file.11:39
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ompaulxukun, that repo that was pointed to add it and use it :-)11:40
bzimageQantourisc,  that's why i rephrased it..11:40
bzimage:)11:40
ompaulxukun, it did not exist a few days ago :)11:40
uazmatchhallo11:40
Qantourisc:p11:40
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Qantouriscubdating11:40
Qantourisc*updating11:40
Qantourisclol ubotu, clever name :p11:41
sobersabredeFrysk, is this skype package with fixed dependency ?11:41
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anyhi11:41
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bzimagehi11:41
deFrysksobersabre, this package should work afaIk11:41
anyI have ubuntu breezy but I would like to get the new kate, can I add kubuntu breezy mirror to my source.list ?11:42
anyNO conflicts ?11:42
deFrysksobersabre, with te deps required of course11:42
Qantourischowlong would a aptget take ?11:42
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ompaulxukun, the loading speed of skype is bad11:42
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parterreHello im Mona from Germany, sorry my english is not so god, but i have a problem11:43
naliothQantourisc: depends on how much stuff you need11:43
deFryskparterre, there is a german room : /j #ubuntu-de11:43
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naliothparterre: ask your question, please11:44
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Qantouriscnalioth: a blank ubunut 5.01 installation11:44
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parterrei have delete my trash and cant find to reinstall it11:45
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deFryskparterre, rightklick your panen > add > trash applet11:45
deFryskpanel*11:45
uazmatchhallo11:46
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Raptoidsiziz siterim11:46
Raptoidbeni dellendirmeyin.11:46
parterreThank you a lot i got it11:46
lorenzodHmm.. I wonder what did this: gtk update, xorg update or kernel update..11:46
xukunI addes that repos for skype in my sources. list, but now if I apt-get install skype than I get this: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/261011:47
lorenzodAll of a sudden everything feels really snappy!11:47
xukun..added11:47
Qantouriscanything i must do after apt-get upgrade ?11:48
Qantouriscin gentoo it where thins as env-update etc-update etz ...11:48
Qantouriscanything in ubuntu ?11:48
deFryskxukun, not on breezy ?11:48
xukundeFrysk, no I,m using hoary11:49
lorenzodQantourisc: not really.11:49
deFryskxukun, probably thats the reason then11:49
Qantouriscok11:49
lorenzodBut sometimes you want to dpkg-reconfigure <package>11:49
Qantouriscthen i must continue :p11:49
uazmatchdaaamm11:49
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deFryskxukun, the static.deb on the skype site workt fine in hoary afaIk11:49
Qantourisci have an I915GM chipset11:49
lorenzodBut Ubuntu != Gentoo..11:49
Qantourisci know :p11:50
deFryskworks*11:50
bzimagelorenzod, indeed... ubuntu = debian11:50
xukundeFrysk, no becouse I had this problem on my home breezy too11:50
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lorenzodbzimage: more or less, yes.11:50
deFryskxukun, wait till seveas is around , he probably knows who how and what11:50
cat!yum11:50
ubotucat: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?11:51
teenieis there anybody have tried ubuntu linux?11:51
lorenzodteenie: hm...11:51
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eliphas_euh no11:51
eliphas_what 's that?11:51
xukundeFrysk, thanks I will11:51
teeniehow about turbo linux?11:51
deFryskcat yum is the yellow dog updater11:51
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Qantouriscok i n #gento osome knew about an issue iI915gm11:51
teenie* Topic for #ubuntu is: Official Ubuntu Help channel | Colony 5 is out: http://tinyurl.com/85dry | Upgrading to breezy? http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes | Documentation: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation - http://doc.ubuntu.com | Use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl for pasting | Found a bug? http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com11:52
teenie* Topic for #ubuntu set by crimsun at Wed Sep 28 14:16:26 200511:52
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teenielorenzod bzimage: more or less, yes.11:52
teeniedeFrysk xukun, wait till seveas is around , he probably knows who how and what11:52
teeniecat !yum11:52
teenieubotu cat: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?11:52
ubotuteenie: okay11:52
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teenieteenie is there anybody have tried ubuntu linux?11:52
teenielorenzod teenie: hm...11:52
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teenieeliphas_ euh no11:52
teenieeliphas_ what 's that?11:52
teenieteenie how about turbo linux?11:52
teeniexukun deFrysk, thanks I will11:52
teeniedeFrysk cat yum is the yellow dog updater11:52
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teenieQantourisc ok i n #gento osome knew about an issue iI915gm11:52
teeniep11:52
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bzimageteeenie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11:52
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Qantouriscsory :p11:53
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deFryskhe/she/or it left11:53
bzimageguessing it11:53
bzimage:P11:53
Qantouriscsomeone at #gentoo knew about the fact that there was an issue in ubunutu with i915gm11:53
deFryskbzimage, agree :D11:53
bzimage:D11:53
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user__how to install acrobat?11:54
deFrysk!acroread11:54
ubotuacroread is probably wget http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/deb/adobereader-enu_7.0.1-2_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i adobereader-enu_7.0.1-2_i386.deb11:54
deFryskuser__, ubotu knows :)11:55
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deFryskuser__, if you are on breezy try evince , it rocks11:56
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user__what is evince?11:56
deFryskuser__, a replacement for a.r.11:56
user__where i can get that?11:57
deFryskapt-get it if you dont have it11:57
deFryskevince is a killer app11:57
cat!evince11:57
ubotucat: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?11:58
catwhat's evince?11:58
Qantouriscisn't there some sort of starter guide for ubunut ?11:58
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catQantourisc: ubuntu.com11:58
cat!doc11:58
ubotufrom memory, doc is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation is a good doc to read11:58
Qantouriscthere is only a seach option11:58
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Clankerushi11:58
ClankerusI have some questions about installing ubuntu11:59
deFrysk!info evince11:59
ubotuevince: (Document (postscript, pdf) viewer), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.1.9-0ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 189 kB, Installed size: 788 kB11:59
deFrysk!botsnack11:59
ubotu:)11:59
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Qantourischmm whats the official ubunutu kernel ?12:00
Clankeruswhen u have burned it onto a cd.. does the computer boot from the cd when installing or do I have to start the cd when the computer is turned on and im using windows?12:00
deFryskClankerus, boot from cd is my way of doing it12:00
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skranglehi, i tried installing ubuntu on a amd laptop, and it said i needed a 32bit version or something .. where do i get this ?12:00
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Clankerusso how do I do to burn it.. is it a iso image?12:00
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rejdenskrangle, heh, that's x86 version12:01
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deFryskClankerus, yes its an iso image12:01
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rejdenskrangle, amd64 is version for 64bit computers, afaik only apple have 64bit laptops....12:01
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skranglerejden what do you mean?12:01
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deFryskClankerus, make sure to burn the iso , don't copy it12:01
madhi ppl :D12:01
rejdenskrangle, that you need x86 iso not amd6412:01
madopenoffice presentation: add -> object -> audio is not clickable, why? i need sound in my presentation. anyone?12:01
Clankerusokey but i have never done this before ... do i just make a cd with nero and burn the file on the disc cause i dont think it starts by itself if I do liek that12:02
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mjrrejden, (there are amd64 laptops, but yes, skrangle doesn't seem to have one)12:02
deFryskClankerus, http://www.weethet.nl/english/cdrw_usingnero_iso.php12:02
rejdenmjr, i said afaik :)12:02
deFryskClankerus, try that :)12:02
rejdenmjr, yeah i think i saw some ultrasparc laptops..12:02
skranglerejden, ok, i thought the i386 was for intel only12:02
rejdenskrangle, not intel, x86 is platform12:03
mjrrejden, ultrasparc isn't amd64, though :)12:03
rejdenmjr, well :D12:03
skranglek, tx :)12:03
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Qantourisclets hope the patches are enough12:03
Qantouriscsay patches aren't they only for the kernel source ?12:03
Clankerusokey thx =)12:03
madhm12:03
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deFryskClankerus, good luck , and dont burn the iso at full speed , safer to do half speed for better writing12:04
Penguinis there a ubuntu fun channel to know users a little bit better? :-)12:04
bzimageQantourisc, que12:04
bzimage?12:04
KuolioPenguin: ubuntu-offtopic and ubuntuforums for active forum-users12:05
deFryskPenguin, what do you mean ? a channel like ubuntu-offtopic ?12:05
Penguineh, I'm not active so nvm but thx :)12:05
xukunanybody know about the public release of Xten's XLite Linux version?12:05
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Penguinyeah :-)12:05
skrangleoh man i cant wait to put windows behind me, ive been waiting for this for as long as i can remember12:05
Clankerusallright... Ill try my best to make it work..!!12:05
Qantouriscbzimage: well i915gm wil lneed some updates, so currently im't trying to update xorg and the kernel12:05
Qantourisci would be fine in gentpp12:05
Clankerusdoes irc work on linux?12:05
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Qantouriscbut this is not getnoo :D12:05
MachineScrewany one know what I can do to enable hibernation ?12:05
xukunpeaple are saying that will work beter than skype12:05
xukun..for linux12:06
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madClankerus, yes, xchat12:06
deFryskClankerus, irc rules in linux12:06
haxelll12:06
Penguinirssi rules ^^12:06
bas_Could anyone tell me the ubuntu release life cycle? (end of updates/end of support/end of life) or point me to where I can read about it?12:06
Qantouriscirc is more linux then it is windows imo12:06
deFryskClankerus, its by default installed12:06
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madinm openoffice presentation: add -> object -> audio is not clickable, why? i need sound in my presentation. anyone?12:06
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skranglebas_ all that and much more on ubuntu.com12:07
MachineScrewany one12:07
MachineScrewi am in breezy12:07
haxel12:07
deFryskClankerus, after install xchat will be in the menu>internet>irc-chat12:07
bas_skrangle, I was that far, but cant find it on the site12:07
MachineScrewor even suspend12:07
bzimagehaxel, omg12:07
haxel:(12:07
haxelhelp?12:08
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deFryskhaxel, just ask12:08
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bzimage!tell haxel about ask12:08
deFrysk!botsnack12:08
ubotu:)12:08
bzimage:P12:08
haxelseems i'm using utf-8m, how do i change it into L1?12:08
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lorenzodspeaking of , does anybody else have problems with Gtk apps freezing when SCIM is enabled?12:08
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KuolioMachineScrew: I've heard some rumours, that with kernel boot option "noapi" or "noapic" the suspend function would work, but dont know for sure12:09
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dhonndoes breezy have a clipboard manager12:09
bzimagedhonn, yes12:09
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bzimage(in kde at least.. hehe klipper)12:09
KuolioMachineScrew: laptopsupport is getting better quite fast these days, but im afraid that suspend functions are still shaky at best12:09
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Clankerusis it a dvd iso?12:10
bzimageClankerus, is what a dvd iso?12:10
deFryskClankerus, the iso file ? its a cd iso12:10
dhonnhow do i use it? cp and paste doesnt work12:10
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dhonnwhen i close the app that i cped text from12:10
bzimagedhonn, i only use kde12:10
Clankerusthe download file says ubuntu-5.04-dvd-i386.iso12:11
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dhonnok12:11
dhonnthanks12:11
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deFryskClankerus, get the cd iso file12:11
Clankerusok.. is there differences?12:11
Clankeruscan u link me to the right one please ^_^12:11
deFryskwell the dvd one is probably a larger donwload12:12
deFryskClankerus, breezy or hoary ?12:12
Clankerushoary12:12
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deFryskhttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/download/ Clankerus12:12
Clankerusthx =)12:12
bzimage(d'oh)12:13
bzimage:P12:13
joel_hi12:13
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haxelseems i'm using utf-8, how do i change it into L1?12:13
bzimagefirst lesson: downloads are allways listed on the projects site...12:13
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bzimage-l12:13
MachineScrewKuolio : I still wana try it12:13
bzimagehi12:13
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MachineScrewit has worked before on my laptop with other distros12:14
hettarIs there a gnome app like the kde digikam one for managing photos ?12:14
gerarconehello, i have a problem with pdfs. i can see these file well with evince, but when i try to print them some characters become very strange12:14
deFryskhettar, gphoto12:14
bzimagegtkcam or somehting12:14
Skidgkam or somthing?12:14
Skidlemem check my log hettar too12:14
Skidgtkam apparantly12:14
Clankeruswhat do I do with all the files here .... copy them to my hd?12:14
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bzimageClankerus, you need to burn the contents of the iso you downloaded to cd12:15
MachineScrewany one know what I can do to enable hibernation ?12:15
MachineScrewi am in breezy12:15
bzimage(burn image option)12:15
deFryskClankerus, where do you live ? I'll hold your hand for a bit ;)12:15
Clankerussweden12:15
Clankerusah I took the norwegian server and its different from the others12:16
hettargphotocoll perhaps ?12:16
deFryskClankerus, x86 pc ?12:16
Clankerusnow i took the german one12:16
Clankeruswhats that?12:16
lorenzodClankerus: everything Norwegian is different..12:16
lorenzod;-)12:16
deFryskwindows pc Clankerus ?12:16
Clankeruslol12:16
Clankerusim planning to install it on my windows 2k laptop12:16
deFryskClankerus, http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/5.04/ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso12:16
deFryskhave fun ;)12:17
Clankerus400 mhz.. quite old..12:17
Clankerusokey12:17
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bzimageClankerus, if you want to preserve you win2k install.. you need to be carefull with the partitioning part!12:17
deFryskClankerus, you can let go of my hand now ;p12:17
bzimagedeFrysk, lol12:17
Clankerusallright =P12:17
madinm openoffice presentation: add -> object -> audio is not clickable, why? i need sound in my presentation. anyone?12:18
ClankerusI dont really care about my win 2k install its brought me so much trouble so far12:18
deFryskClankerus, wipe the lot :D12:18
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bzimageClankerus, ok.. :P12:18
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Kreamhi all12:18
madlo12:19
Wipe-Outhey all12:19
Kreamare these correct sources to enable universe on my machine: ?12:19
Kreamdeb http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe12:19
Kreamdeb-src http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe12:19
Kream ?12:19
Kreamand if they are, how do I get nvu from them?12:19
Wipe-Outare you using hoary?12:19
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deFryskKream, in topic is a link to the upgradenotes12:19
Kreamoops12:20
Wipe-Outlol12:20
bzimage!tell Kream about breezy12:20
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Kream:)12:20
Kreamthanks12:20
Clankerusdefrysk, there is appearently two files... each at about 600 mb and iso files12:20
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bzimageClankerus, ?12:21
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zeverlol12:21
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deFryskClankerus, http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/5.04/ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso is a download link12:22
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deFryskClankerus, so download it12:22
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zeverWipe-Out, sudo apt-get install gcc-3.412:23
bzimagelol12:23
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bzimage:P12:23
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skysi install wine  and i got this error :checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables12:25
skysSee `config.log' for more details.12:25
skys" help plz....12:25
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Wipe-Outzever, I know that part but it can;t be found12:25
zever!info gcc-3.412:26
ubotugcc-3.4: (The GNU C compiler), section devel, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-9ubuntu4 (hoary), Packaged size: 465 kB, Installed size: 4404 kB12:26
gnuLameu dn't have GCC or it has been installed in wrong directory12:26
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gnuLamewe r now on gcc 4.0.1 why u trying 3.4 ?12:26
skysi installed gcc using synaptic12:26
Wipe-Outi know but i need it to compile ndiswrapper 1.312:27
Wipe-Outand gcc-3.4 is not on my system, i can download the tar.gz files to do it manualy but that is doing my head in12:27
gnuLame:p12:27
naliothWipe-Out: install it via synaptic12:28
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vikashhi12:28
Wipe-Outtryed it via synaptic but it's not in the list12:28
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vikashi have fat32 drive mounted but it's read only12:28
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vikashi am using ubuntu 5.1012:29
Wipe-Outgot the same issue12:29
vikashhow can i change it's permissions12:29
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Wipe-Outbut first i need to get gcc-3.4 to work12:29
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Skidhmph, it seems my application sounds ahve gone12:29
vikashplz help anybody12:29
Skidfecksake12:29
JustinHHi try to install mozilla web browser. the package is called <<mozilla-i686-pc-linux-gnu-1.7.12-installer.tar.gz>>. shoul i foind an other package or smth? i cant install it? can anybody help me pls?12:29
bzimagevikash, use in fstab umask=000 to let every user have write access12:29
Wipe-Outvikash: well i think you can do that as root only12:29
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bzimage(system user)12:29
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vikashok12:30
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bzimagefat32 has no right management like NTFS has12:30
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vikashis driver available to read file system ntfs for ubuntu 5.1012:30
Wipe-Outnope12:31
bzimageyes there is12:31
Wipe-Outsorry wrong cghat :P12:31
vikashplz tell me12:31
pc22how do i install an application12:31
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bimberiubotu tell vikash about ntfs12:31
zever!tell vikash about ntfs12:31
zeverhmmm12:32
JustinHHvikash, :  but for 5.4012:32
vikashi mounted ntfs in red hat 912:32
vikashbut didn't get driver for ubuntu 5.1012:32
JustinHH!tell JustinHH about ntfs12:32
bzimageuse as type ntfs12:32
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Blizzkidlo all, I have a bit of a strange problem regarding WIFI. I openend network settings, entered the ESSID and the WEP-key, and pressed "activate" after a while it says ath0 is active, but I only get some IPV6-address, and my wifi-card tells me there's no link12:33
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bzimagevikash, DO NOT write to this mounted ntfs system... it can damage the contents on it..12:33
bzimage(if not more)12:33
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vikashno i want to write on fat3212:33
skysi install wine  and i got this error :checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables, help plz.12:33
vikashwhat should be the value of umask in fstab12:34
vikashand want to read only ntfs12:34
bzimagevikash, to be clear.. you want to use a fat32 drive and a ntfs drive?12:34
vikashya12:35
bzimageok...12:35
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vikashwant write on fat12:35
vikashbut only read ntfs12:35
bzimagefor fat32: /dev/<fatdrive>      /<mountpoint>       vfat    user,umask=000          0       012:35
bzimage*basic entry*12:35
vikashin place of defaults  i should write12:36
vikashvikash,umask=00012:36
vikashis it right12:36
bzimageno.. use "user"12:36
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vikashok12:37
vikashuser not the name of user12:37
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linux_newbieHi there people12:37
linux_newbieI need help12:37
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linux_newbieI'm running Ubuntu on a LG Ls50a notebook12:37
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linux_newbieWant to install some new .rpm software, but dont know how?12:38
bzimagefor ntfs: /dev/<ntfsdrive>      /<mountpoint>       ntfs    user,umask=022          0       012:38
linux_newbieit says that I have to use alien12:38
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linux_newbiealien?12:38
bzimagelinukso, alien is a conversion tool..12:38
zeverlinux_newbie, alien creates .deb files out of .rpm's12:38
bimberilinux_newbie: what's the software?12:39
linux_newbiein the synaptics package manager I installed alien, but i dont know where to find it or how to run/use it?12:39
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linux_newbiethe software i want to install is realplayer for linux, winamp for linux and LimeWire p2p for linux12:40
zeverlinux_newbie, realplayer is in the repos12:40
linux_newbierealplayer is a .bin file (also dont know how to install that12:40
linux_newbiethe others are .rpm12:40
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zeverlinux_newbie, WINamp?, use xmms (it's a winamp2 clone)12:40
deFrysk!tell linux_newbie about realplayer12:40
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bzimagelinux_newbie, i advise you to NOT use winamp for linux.. it OLD12:41
deFrysklinux_newbie, read ubotu's message about real player12:41
linux_newbieand what about LimeWire?  I want to know how to install a .rpm file... isnt there some documents somewhere telling me how?12:41
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zeverlinux_newbie, in terminal, alien foo.rpm12:41
deFrysklinux_newbie, forget everything you learn afa windows is concerned12:42
bzimagelinux_newbie, in terminal: man alien12:42
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deFrysklinux_newbie, windows ways dont apply in linux12:42
bimberilimewire12:42
bimberibah - sorry12:42
bzimagedeFrysk, for 80%12:42
Blizzkidlo all, I have a bit of a strange problem regarding WIFI. I openend network settings, entered the ESSID and the WEP-key, and pressed "activate" after a while it says ath0 is active, but I only get some IPV6-address, and my wifi-card tells me there's no link12:42
bzimage(approx.)12:42
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deFryskalso a .deb created by alien often does not work linux_newbie12:43
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bzimagealien creates an alien piece of garbage12:43
no_dammagEa small question: do i have to pay the shipping costs if I order CDs from ubuntu.com or are those costs overtaken by shipit, too?12:43
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linux_newbieok now that i have alien open ' Manual page alien(1p) line 112:44
linux_newbie' wtf do i do? lol12:44
zeverlinux_newbie, read12:44
bzimagelol12:44
skysi install wine  and i got this error :checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables, help plz.12:44
bzimage(d.oh)12:44
deFrysklinux_newbie, now you have to learn not to use it ;p12:44
ccooke-workHmm.12:44
deFrysklinux_newbie, read this : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation its your ubuntu-bible12:44
zeverdeFrysk, alien worked for the .rpm drivers of my printer12:45
ccooke-workAre there known problems with connecting to windows shares on breezy?12:45
deFryskzever, it wont work on real-player12:45
bzimagezever, sometimes it's output actually works..12:45
deFryskzever, also wont work on java12:45
zevermmmm12:45
zeverprobably12:45
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deFryskfor newbies alien is useless12:45
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bzimagei had several conversions doing nothing but annoy me, because they just wont install12:46
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bzimageso.. alien is for alien debian user12:46
bzimage:P12:46
no_dammagEanyone? Do I have to pay shipping costs if I request CDs from ubuntu.com?12:46
bzimage+s12:46
zever:p12:46
bimberino_dammagE: no - no cost to you whatsoever12:46
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no_dammagEbimberi, thanks12:47
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deFryskno_dammagE, free and you can get a box full if you like12:47
bzimageno_dammagE, ehm.. well.. pay me 100 dollar.. and you get the cd's12:47
bzimage:P12:47
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bimberibzimage: :)12:47
ashwanihi all12:47
ashwaniis there anybody ever used LDAP with SAMBA12:47
ashwaniastro76, hi12:47
bzimageashwani, sure there must be someone on this planet who used that combination12:48
bzimage:)12:48
ashwaniastro76, do you know how to configure SAMBA and LDAP to work with each other12:48
ashwaniastro76, i don't think so, I could not find any documentation which could tell me to do this12:48
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bzimagei don't see any astro76 lines12:49
bzimagehehe12:49
gnix_oagis lamp?12:49
no_dammagEbzimage, hehe, no, give me 100$ and I will take your CDs ;)12:49
skysi install wine  and i got this error :checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables, help plz.12:49
bzimageno_dammagE, lol12:50
no_dammagEyou have to pay me to make me to get your stuff ^^12:50
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bzimage!lamp12:50
ubotulamp is, like, totally, Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Hoary is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP12:50
bzimagethere you go gnix_oag12:51
bzimage:)12:51
gnix_oagskys: install c++12:51
michel_i install ltsp with ubuntu breezy, now i have login but i cannot log me12:51
HermenLLAMP ids more like Linux-Apache-MySQL-Perl/PHP/Python !!!12:51
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bzimageHermenL, no... it's not12:51
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bzimageHermenL, (officially)12:52
smottmysql and php are terrible things12:52
sobersabrelorenzod, so how was the upgrade ?12:52
smottterrible, terrible things.12:52
bzimagesmott, why?12:52
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smottit would take a book to explain if you can't figure it out (:12:52
bimberigo postresql and zope!12:52
bzimagesmott, summarize12:52
lorenzodsobreabre: very  good. feels faster now..12:53
lorenzodsobreabre == sobersabre.12:53
bimberisob<tab> == sobersabre :)12:53
smottbzimage: they both suck and better things are available12:54
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bionicbihello12:54
gnix_oaghello12:54
bzimagesmott, that's a personal opinion12:54
deFryskhello12:54
bzimagehello12:54
zeverhello12:54
bionicbiANYOPNE IN SOUTHERN LEYTE12:54
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HermenLbzimage: Sorry, LAMP, 1998,  Michael Kunze in C'T (Germany): " the Linux operating system; the Apache Web server; the MySQL relational database management system; and the Perl, Python, and/or PHP scripting languages "12:55
zeverbionicbi, not so loud12:55
bionicbisorry12:55
michel_install ltsp with ubuntu breezy: login display but i cannot log me any idea?12:55
bionicbisorry12:55
zeverok12:55
bzimageHermenL, so.. ?12:55
bzimage:P12:55
bionicbizever: are you in the phils?12:55
smottbzimage: uhm, okay. :rolleyes:12:55
zeverbionicbi, no12:55
bionicbioic12:56
bionicbiwehre you at?12:56
zeverleuven, belgium12:56
bzimagesmott, just ranting with " it sucks" doesn't say sh*t12:56
bionicbiwhere you at??12:56
bzimage:)12:56
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HermenLFirst occurrence of 'LAMP' acro12:56
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gnix_oaghehe12:57
smottbzimage: well, that's about as much summary as i can give12:57
gnix_oagchina12:57
eddieanyone have the server addresses for restricted in Breezy for mp3 playback?12:57
HermenLWell smott, that's not much....12:57
haxel_I_ solved my utf-8 problem by running dpkg-reconfigure locales. Thanks for nothing.12:57
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bzimagegnix_oag, china railway center?12:57
ashwaniathlon, hi12:57
bzimage:P12:57
ompaulsmott, what exactly can't you do with those two? [I know zope does not scale in a huge way but other than that] 12:58
gnix_oagwhat?12:58
bzimagegnix_oag, your provider12:58
bzimage(internet)12:58
bzimagechina railway center? Xicheng District, Beijing12:59
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bionicbihello12:59
gnix_oagHuNan12:59
ashwaniplease tell me any one how to configure LDAP to authenticate SAMBA users12:59
CryptidHow do i open .Rar Format Files12:59
ashwaniplease tell me any one how to configure LDAP to authenticate SAMBA users12:59
ashwaniplease tell me any one how to configure LDAP to authenticate SAMBA users12:59
ashwaniplease tell me any one how to configure LDAP to authenticate SAMBA users12:59
ashwaniplease tell me any one how to configure LDAP to authenticate SAMBA users12:59
ashwaniplease tell me any one how to configure LDAP to authenticate SAMBA users12:59
ashwaniplease tell me any one how to configure LDAP to authenticate SAMBA users12:59
=== bzimage smack ashwani !
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Cryptidashwani dont flood the channel01:00
ashwanibzimage, hi01:00
ashwaniCryptid, K01:00
HermenLSee samba.org and RTFM01:00
ashwanibzimage, do you know this01:00
bzimagenot from heart01:01
ashwaniHermenL,i have seen that but did not find any particular docs.01:01
sskkWhen I run in the System Monitor-tool it says that I use 100% all the time. In 'top' I see that the the % of the CPU power, that 'should' be under id (idle) is under 'wa'. What does it mean?, is it a problem?01:01
CryptidHow do i open .Rar Format Files01:01
bzimageCryptid, use rar01:01
bzimage:P01:01
skysi install wine  and i got this error :checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables, help plz.01:01
Cryptidbzimage, where do i get it from01:02
bzimagerepos01:02
deFryskskys, did you use synaptic to install wine ?01:02
HermenLAnd : http://www.ofb.net/~jheiss/samba/ldap.shtml01:02
bzimageCryptid, to be precise: unrar-free and unrar-nonfree are in the repos01:02
deFryskskys, or apt-get ?01:03
skysyes01:03
HermenLHow do we pay for unrar-nonfree then?01:03
skysbut i got other error.01:03
deFryskskys, from an ubuntu repository ?01:03
bzimage!tell Cryptid about repos01:03
skysyes thats right01:03
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deFryskskys, where is the compile about then ?01:03
JustinHHhow can i run an installer?01:04
skysok , i installed using apt/synaptic but theres an error when using wine, so i download the latest ver of wine01:04
bzimageJustinHH, what installer01:04
bzimage?01:04
ompaulJustinHH, for what?01:04
deFryskskys, ah01:04
JustinHHfirefox01:04
skysand theres a compilation error, any idea.01:04
bzimageJustinHH, filename?01:05
deFryskskys, nope01:05
skysmaybe gcc path?01:05
ompaulJustinHH, sudo apt-get install firefox01:05
skysor some  file to edit?01:05
JustinHHthx01:05
JustinHHdoaes this install firefox on my system?01:05
JustinHHdoes this install firefox on my system?01:05
bzimageskys, the wine wich comes with the repos is binary01:05
ompaulJustinHH, yes01:05
deFryskskys, just use the packages provided by the repos01:05
bzimageso no need to compile01:05
JustinHHok01:05
skysyes but theres an error when running wine. something like: cant find c:\ i think....01:06
bzimagedid you just run wine solo?01:06
skysand besides ap-get the the older ver not the latest ver.01:06
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bzimagewithout anything after it01:06
JustinHHthis apears when i try to install firefox via apt-getE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)01:06
JustinHHE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?01:06
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ompaulskys, what exactly can you not do with the version offered?01:07
skysok. i hv another idea. how to force apt-get to get the latest version from wine?01:07
deFryskJustinHH, use sudo and shut down synaptic01:07
ompaulJustinHH, sudo apt-get update01:07
bzimageJustinHH, close synaptic01:07
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klepasI'm wondering01:07
klepas I'm trying to synchronise my user accounts over several distros (namely Suse and Ubuntu beta)01:07
skysompaul=bugs n fixes...01:07
klepasUsernames and passwords already the same01:07
klepasbut the UIDs are not the same...01:08
klepashow do i edit the UIDs01:08
JustinHHE: Couldn't find package firefox01:08
JustinHH:((01:08
bzimagemozilla-firefox01:08
Qantouriscokiedokie i have an i915gm01:09
Qantouriscthere is a known issue with this01:09
Qantouriscwhat ?01:09
bzimageJustinHH, ehm.. firefox is installed by default afaik01:09
Qantouriscxfce4 is not in ubuntu database ? :(01:09
bzimageQantourisc, it is..01:09
skyshow to force apt-get to get the latest version from wine?01:09
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ompaulskys, the packages have maintainers, these people keep your distribution managable, if you want to go playing with the latest version of something you have to solve all the problems that throws up by yourself, so do it if you have the time, or accept the thousands of hours that went into creating the distro you use01:10
ompaulskys, btw they also fix stuff01:10
Qantouriscthen whay doesn't the search xfce4 turn up any results ?01:10
Qantouriscrong tree ?01:10
skysompaul = ok01:10
bzimage!tell Qantourisc about repos01:10
bzimageneed to add extra repos01:10
deFryskompaul, well put :)01:10
bzimage:)01:10
skysompaul = ill stick with your idea.01:10
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ompauldeFrysk, we really need a !latest type of thing - but I can't get it to cover all the bases I want - thats the closest yet01:11
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skyswell, i installed using packages but it has an error(launching wine only) , thats why i try new ver (also error compiling only)01:12
JustinHHbzimage, : yes. i forgot. but i have got one problem. i wanna listen to a webradio on www.energy.de. and there apears that i don't have a plugin. i try to find it with plugin finder but this can't find the plugin. the site redirects me to the site of microsoft01:12
deFryskskys, read the docs on the wine main page01:12
deFryskskys, keeps you out of trouble for a week or so ;)01:12
skysi will install again the wine packages...  ill be back  to report...01:12
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skysdeFrysk =yes sir!01:13
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ompaul!tell JustinHH about codecs01:14
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JustinHHompaul, :  yes but i don`t know what codec i should install01:14
pittiklepas: ok, what was the problem?01:15
klepasAlrighty01:15
klepas I'm trying to synchronise my user accounts over several distros (namely Suse and Ubuntu beta)01:15
klepasnot copy across data01:15
pittiklepas: yep, I read it above01:16
klepasjust be able to acces the accounts01:16
ompaulJustinHH, well lets look at it this way, if you install loads of them you will have more aviable to you and less questions to ask later :) {w32codecs would be a good place to start looking given that it told you to look at MS}01:16
pittiklepas: the short story is, there is no easy way to edit an uid in a running system01:16
klepasAnd the little ui tool to edit users/add them won't allow me to edit the UID from 1000 to 100201:16
klepasack01:16
pittiklepas: that's because it is virtually impossible online01:16
klepasdo it from the Suse distro01:16
klepaswould that work?01:17
pittiklepas: what you can do, is to mount your Ubuntu partition from SuSE01:17
klepasyep01:17
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pittiklepas: then edit the user ids in /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow01:17
pittiklepas: and then chown -R all user homes01:17
klepasyep01:17
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pittiklepas: but basically you should try to avoid this situation altogether01:18
klepasYea.01:18
pittiklepas: use a common /home partition and just sync /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow01:18
Qantourischow does the ubunutu kernel work ? does it use genkernel ?01:18
klepasAnnoying thing is when i install Ubuntu I cannot regulate the assigned UID for the first user01:19
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klepasnor any shared folders on a server01:19
skysi installed the wine using pkg but heres the error when running wine: creating configuration directory '/home/skys/.wine'...01:19
skyserr:module:load_builtin_dll failed to load .so lib for builtin L"gdi32.dll": libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory01:19
skyserr:module:import_dll Loading library gdi32.dll (which is needed by L"c:\\windows\\system\\user32.dll") failed (error c000007a).01:19
skyserr:module:import_dll Library user32.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\windows\\rundll32.exe") not found01:19
skyserr:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L"C:\\windows\\rundll32.exe" failed, status c000013501:19
skyswine: wineprefixcreate failed while creating '/home/skys/.wine'.01:19
klepaschown -R on all the home dirs01:19
bimberiskys: please don't flood01:19
deFryskskys, you are flooding you might get a temp ban for that01:19
HaNazirhey guys. i want to disable xserver for my kids. so that when i'm not arround they dont go to certain places. how do i do that?01:20
klepaswhat's the command for that exactly?01:20
klepas# chown -R /home01:20
klepasI think...01:20
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deFryskskys, probs with running apps on wine are discussed in #wine01:20
HaNazirso that all users have X, but my kids only have console. they're young, so they only want to chat with centericq01:20
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deFryskskys, better try there01:20
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michel_install ltsp with ubuntu breezy: login display but i cannot log me any idea?01:22
klepasThank you pitti01:22
skysok, thnx anyway.....01:22
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pittiklepas: for fixing user "joe", it would be "sudo chown -R joe:joe /home/joe"01:23
pittibah01:23
pittitoo late01:23
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wartyHI YOU01:25
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wartyhow do u do01:25
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aftertafbot attacks again....01:26
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Pickle_Weaselis there a plugin for firefox that will let me view movies on a page without downloading them?01:27
aftertafto view, you must dwnload... unless they stream (which is sort of d/l ing anyway)01:27
Pickle_Weaselthat's what i mean though, i want to stream01:27
bzimagePickle_Weasel, mozilla-mplayer01:27
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Pickle_Weaselty bzimage ^.^01:27
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bzimagePickle_Weasel, you maybe need extra codecs to..01:28
Wipe-Outand i'm back01:28
bzimage!tell Pickle_Weasel about codecs01:28
Pickle_Weaseli have the codecs, i just need the plugin01:28
bzimageok01:28
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smottis there some way to decrease the cpu speed of my centrino laptop? :(01:29
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ompaulsmott, why01:29
smottompaul: it keeps overheating and then cooling every 10 minutes. it can't be good for the hardware01:30
smottit goes from 40C to 58C, then it turns on the fan and goes back to 45C and so on01:30
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ompaulsmott, are you leaving room underneath it for air to flow around the vents?01:31
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Qantourischow are the kernel soruces called ?01:31
ompaulsmott, they run hot in 99% oc cases01:31
ompauls/oc/of01:31
kemiksmott:  edit bios and let the cpu-fan be more aggressive01:31
Qantouriscaa found them =S01:31
kemikQantourisc:  linux-headers-$(uname -r)01:32
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bimberiQantourisc: linux-source-2.6.10 (for hoary)01:32
kemikbimberi:  $(uname -r) is better01:32
Qantourischmmm in wich repesory are tehy ?01:33
bimberikemik: yes, but there's no -386 on the end of the package name (for example)01:33
Qantourisci onyl have a 2.4 in my pacakge manager01:33
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bimberikemik: for linux-source packages that is, you're absolutely right about the headers01:34
kemikbimberi:  have you been smoking crack?01:34
kemikindeed i am ;)01:34
bimberias am i01:34
adlQantourisc, seems you have set the wrong distributions for the repositories - check: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories01:34
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aftertaf!crack01:34
ubotuThe primary cause of people asking me the wrong things.01:34
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aftertaflooool01:34
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kemikbimberi:  yes you are , for linux.source.. but i dont think that's what he needs01:35
aftertafbob2:  can you set antibot mode????01:35
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kemikaftertaf:  spambots+01:35
kemik?01:35
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bimberi21:31 <Qantourisc> how are the kernel soruces called ?01:35
aftertafspambots+?01:35
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kemiknvm01:36
kemikim off to ce gym01:36
JustinHHon: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list re:(gedit:16050): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:01:37
JustinHH / Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.01:37
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boxerboy29has anyone else been getting errors when they star gnome?01:37
Pickle_Weaselthis is rather angering me, i seem to have all repositories added, yet i can't find mplayer on my list...it just doesn't exist01:37
boxerboy29start*01:37
smottkemik: it doesn't seem to have such an option01:37
kemikPickle_Weasel:  apt-get update01:37
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kemikPickle_Weasel:  and if it's not there, you dont have the correct repositories, or filelisting of them failed01:38
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kemiki would guess universe is what you need01:38
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Pickle_Weaselhmm, well i followed the adding repos how-to page, and my repository list says this paticular one that i need is enabled01:38
Pickle_Weaselmultiverse01:38
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[zeno] 'morning01:38
RMeisthi01:38
bimberiPickle_Weasel: the packages have names such as mplayer-58601:39
Blizzkidlo all. I can't get my wifi working: open infrastructure. iwconfig gives link quality, signal level and noise level, but i don't get an IP, and my card indicates there's no connection. Help plz.01:39
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kemikPickle_Weasel:  apt-cache search <keyword>01:39
kemikPickle_Weasel:  or better yet, use synaptic01:39
Pickle_Weaselbimberi, i know this, and it's not on the list =\01:39
[zeno] Blizzkid: have you assigned a IP to the eth card?01:39
bimberiPickle_Weasel: ah, k01:39
Pickle_Weaselwhich is why i'm stumpted, i'm not the average noob >.>01:39
bzimagePickle_Weasel, sudo apt-get update01:39
Blizzkid[zeno] : nopes. dhcp01:39
Pickle_Weaseldid that also01:40
kemikPickle_Weasel:  then you've not added the correct repos01:40
[zeno] Blizzkid: is your card configured to receive an IP from dhcp server?01:40
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bzimagePickle_Weasel, it's there.. i've installed it from it01:40
deFryskPickle_Weasel, try mplayer-38601:40
kemikPickle_Weasel:  it's in universe/multiverse i think01:40
Pickle_Weaselyou see, i thought that too, but i double checked, even removed and re-added by copy pasting01:40
Blizzkidindeed [zeno] : at least, as far as I know01:40
kemikPickle_Weasel:  paste your sources.list on pastebin01:40
Pickle_Weasel?01:41
kemik!pastebin01:41
ubotumethinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl01:41
boxerboy29noone else is getting the 3 refresh errors when they start gnome :(01:41
Skiderm like to cut a long story short, I've fecked my /lib/lsb/init-functions file, i know how to fix, but icnt boot back into ubuntu, i boot up (even with recovery) and it says give root p/w for maintentnce, do that, and the partiion /dev/hda3 is mounted as rw on /, but i an't write to any files01:41
Skidanyway i can get to write to the file to fix it?01:41
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[zeno] Blizzkid: verify your /etc/network/interfaces file01:41
Skidas i really dont want to format, just got everything nice :)01:41
Pickle_Weaseli see, and where is sources.list located?01:41
kemikSkid:  get a livecd and mount the partiton and edit your files01:41
Blizzkid[zeno] : iface ath0 inet dhcp01:41
kemikPickle_Weasel:  /etc/apt/sources.list01:41
Pickle_Weaselty01:42
Skidis there any other way, as I dont have a seperate cd writer :P01:42
[zeno] Blizzkid: so it's ok01:42
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kemikSkid:  im sure there are.. but to me that'd be the simplest way.. just goto some internetcafe/friend/relative wahtever and burn one ;)01:42
bzimageSkid, you know the root pass?01:42
Skidbzimage: yes.01:42
Skidkemik: ya, i jsut wonderd if i could do it another way :P01:42
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Blizzkid[zeno] : yes, but for some reason, it seems there's no connection with the ap01:43
Skidi missed a right bracket (] ) grr01:43
Skidand its fecked everything :P01:43
Skid*slap*01:43
Pickle_Weaselkemik, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/261101:43
kemikSkid:  take the HD and put in another linux comp. mount it and add your changes01:43
Skidits a laptop heh01:43
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[zeno] Blizzkid: of course! :)01:43
kemikoh ym01:43
kemikPickle_Weasel:  that sources.list is NO GOOD01:43
[zeno] Blizzkid: thinking about a solution01:43
pinoyskullis there a way to play videos without buffering it first in xine?01:43
kemik!repositories01:43
uboturepositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy))01:43
Pickle_Weasel=o01:43
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Pickle_Weaseli followed that step by step..01:44
Pickle_Weasel=\01:44
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Blizzkid[zeno] : hope that doesn't hurt too much ;-)01:44
dade`how to install eclipse on breezy ? what repository should i use ?01:44
bzimagePickle_Weasel, deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted need added: universe and multiverse01:44
kemikPickle_Weasel:  well you dont want to mix hoary/warty repositories01:44
kemikPickle_Weasel:  and you dont want the old backports eiterh01:44
pinoyskullis there a way to play videos without buffering it first in xine? anybody knows?01:44
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kemikPickle_Weasel:  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969  <.. use that one and apt-update01:45
Pickle_Weaseli see01:45
Pickle_Weaselok01:45
Pickle_Weasel^.^01:45
brenner_pinoyskull: you mean streams?01:45
pinoyskullya01:45
pinoyskullwell01:45
Pickle_Weaselcan i just gedit mine to a copy of that one?01:45
pinoyskullnot for streams, but videos accross the lan01:45
hutgyrri trying to archive stuff here and first it seems to put all the files into the archive, then splits it into two files then recompresses, then decompress. Whats goin on?01:45
bzimagevlc01:45
Jack_Bhey guys does xmms play wma's by default? or do i have to get codecs01:45
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bzimagevideolan01:46
kemikPickle_Weasel:  yeah... but yo need to edit with sudo01:46
dajomu I am wondering why my SystemRescueCd is stopping with the bootup message * Starting USB and PCI hotplugging01:46
pinoyskullhow bout xine01:46
kemikPickle_Weasel:  "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"01:46
brenner_pinoyskull: nothing in prefs?01:46
Pickle_Weaseli know that kemik01:46
Pickle_Weasel=\01:46
pinoyskullwhat do u mean brenner01:46
kemikPickle_Weasel:  just replace your sources.list with the one from pastebin that i pasted01:46
bzimageJack_B, you need codecs01:46
bzimageafaik01:46
brenner_Jack_B: afaik, you _do_ need them01:46
Pickle_Weaselthat is what i am going to do, thank you01:47
bimberi!info eclipse-platform breezy01:47
Jack_Bok01:47
ubotueclipse-platform: (Eclipse platform without plug-ins to develop any language), section universe/devel, is optional. Version: 3.1-0ubuntu7 (breezy), Packaged size: 22809 kB, Installed size: 64524 kB01:47
brenner_pinoyskull: tried looking in options?01:47
Jack_Bas in w32codecs?01:47
Jack_Bor is that for wmv's only?01:47
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bzimageJack_B, no it's for many formats..01:47
Skidomg lol01:47
Skidi just found an ubuntu livecd under my sofa01:47
Skidhows that for luck?01:47
dade`ecj-bootstrap-gcj - bootstrap version of the Eclipse Java compiler (native version)01:47
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dade`eclipse-sdk - Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE01:47
bzimagebut it's not in the repos anymore.. (legal restrictions)01:47
pinoyskullbrenner_ ill try that again, cuz i already did look into it01:47
Blizzkidwhy is wlan still such a pain in the a** in linux?01:48
Jack_Bbzimage, so which codecs should i get01:48
brenner_bzimage: gee i've been missing a while...since when?01:48
bimberi!info eclipse-sdk breezy01:48
ubotueclipse-sdk: (Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE), section universe/devel, is optional. Version: 3.1-0ubuntu7 (breezy), Packaged size: 68 kB, Installed size: 256 kB01:48
bimberidade`: you need the universe repository enabled01:48
bzimagebrenner, since not so long ago01:48
[zeno] Blizzkid: my father is calling me to have the lunch.. if you can, try to configure your AP and eth with static IP and verify if the card goes well01:48
Pickle_Weaselkemik, that fixed everything, thank you ^.^01:48
Blizzkid[zeno] : i'll have a try01:49
brenner_bzimage: not surprising i guess....01:49
Jack_BYOU'VE BEEN THUNDERSTRUCKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!01:49
Jack_BOH YEH THUNDERSTRUCKED!!!!!01:49
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dade`  eclipse-sdk: Depends: eclipse-jdt (= 3.1-0ubuntu7) but it is not installable01:49
dade`               Depends: eclipse-pde (= 3.1-0ubuntu7) but it is not installable01:49
smottmy laptop has cpufreq_userspace, cpufreq_stats, cpufreq_ondemand, cpufreq_powersave, cpufreq_conservative modules loaded, but cpufreq_selector says that there's no cpufreq support ... ?01:49
dade`bimberi01:49
dade`see that..01:49
Jack_B\m/ rock on ac/dc01:49
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Jack_Bbzimage, i just installed w32codecs and so far xmms won't play any of my wmas01:51
brenner_is it ac/dc day or something?01:51
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Jack_Bbrenner, sure is01:51
brenner_Jack_B: i'd think you'd need an xmms* package...01:52
bimberidade`: hm, ok, from what i can tell they're in universe too01:52
Jack_Bbrenner: ok01:52
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bzimageac/dc isn't that powercircuit01:52
bzimage?01:52
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bzimagepom pom01:53
Blizzkidanyone else could help me on wifi?01:53
Jack_Bbzimage: Blasphemy! its a band01:53
dade`bimberi: maybe because i'm on ppc ?01:53
vikashi have configured samba01:53
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vikashmy system is accessible on network by window machines01:53
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Learhello everybody01:53
kemikPickle_Weasel:  youre welcome ;)01:53
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vikashbut  when i share other folder by shared folders it's not showing01:53
bimberidade`: ah yes, probably :|01:53
Jack_Bbrenner: xmms package as in xmms-wma_1.0.4-2_i386.deb?01:54
vikashanybody help me01:54
brenner_Jack_B: no clue...is that in the repo?01:54
Jack_Bbrenner: nope got it off ubuntuguide.com01:54
vikashby simply01:54
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vikashright click on folder and share is not working01:54
vikashhelp me plz01:55
brenner_Jack_B: use at your own risk i guess then...01:55
bzimageyou mean ubuntuguide.org01:55
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vikashhi bzimage01:55
Jack_Byep bzimage01:55
bzimage!ubuntuguide01:55
ubotuubuntuguide is, like, totally, out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.01:55
brenner_Blizzkid: searched the wiki?01:55
Jack_Bawww01:55
Jack_B!faq01:55
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/01:55
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vikashhello anybpdy01:55
boxerboy29someone needs to update ubotu its already in the menu01:56
vikashhelp lpz01:56
Jack_Bwhat if you have hoary instead?01:56
nxv_are there any packages for tuskjuggler somewhere to download?01:56
bzimagehi vikash01:56
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vikashmy query is related to sharing01:56
naliothvikash: quit whining. if someone knows the answer to your question, they'll answer. you arent gonna whine an answer out of anyone01:56
Blizzkidbrenner_: yep, followed it step by step, but..... "If it doesn't and you get statements saying "Destination host unreachable" or "request timed out", then you've got a problem and you aren't connected. (somebody should write some instructions on what to do next)."  ---> exactly what I have now01:56
vikashhi01:56
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vikashcan u help me01:56
brenner_Jack_B: wiki and forums...01:56
vikashbzimage01:56
bzimageehm.. maybe..01:56
brenner_....and #ubuntu itself01:56
Jack_Bbrenner, roger that chief01:57
vikashhow to share folders01:57
vikashso that they can be accesed on other machines on network01:57
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vikashhello01:57
vikashgot it?01:57
bimberidade`: i've checked on packages.debian.org and both eclipse-pde and eclipse-jdt are for "all" not just "i386"01:57
brenner_Blizzkid: i usually see peoplelist hetir h/ware specs in here...that might help01:57
Jack_Bholy crap my comp just lagged for the first time on ubuntu01:58
brenner_Blizzkid: also...search the forum while you wait01:58
bzimagevikash, i read that the windows boxes can see the linux box?01:58
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vikashok01:58
bimberidade`: i wonder why the ubuntu ones are for i386 only, an error perhaps?01:58
vikashbut only my home folder01:58
vikashis accessible01:58
bzimagesh*t i'm lagging like h*ll01:58
BlizzkidI get "Activating interface ath0" for a long time. After that it says "The interface ath0 is active", but I have no connection to the ap01:58
bzimageexit01:58
vikashbut suppose i have to share other then01:58
bzimagebrb01:58
dade`bimberi: how can we see if ubuntu one are 386 only ?01:59
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naliothvikash: it is a security issue to share other things than your homedirectory01:59
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bimberidade`: http://packages.ubuntu.com01:59
vikashok but i want to share01:59
dade`cool01:59
vikashso that other people on my home network can access it01:59
vikashactually i want to share folder from my fat32 drive02:00
dade`.. i38602:00
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vikashwhich i mounted02:00
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dade`bimberi: so, this is not good. :(02:00
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vikashnalioth where r u?02:00
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mahanguhow do you untar something?02:00
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vikashgot it?/02:00
bimberidade`: no, but 2 things could be tried...02:00
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dade`bimberi: tellme02:01
Qantouriscwhere can i find a list of the repository's please ?02:01
naliothQantourisc: /msg ubotu sources02:01
bimberidade`: 1. download and install the debian packages 2. try downloading the ubuntu i386 packages and attempting to install them anywat02:01
riddleboxwhere do I put my wep key for wireless?02:01
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bimberi*anyway02:01
vikashnalioth can u help me02:01
dade`bimberi: install a i386 package on ppc ?02:01
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brenner_mahangu: tar xf <file>, iirc02:01
dade`!@#[] 02:02
ubotudade`: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!02:02
naliothvikash: no i'm sorry i dont run intel machines02:02
Jack_Bis there a list for all the commands i can enter in this channel ?02:02
vikashwhich one u use02:02
vikashmac02:02
Jack_Blike !faq etc02:02
bimberidade`: i'm working on the theory that it's a packaging error02:02
naliothmahangu: brenner_: tar xvzf file.tar.gz02:02
bimberidade`: but maybe 1. is better :)02:02
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naliothJack_B: any IRC howto can help you02:02
brenner_nalioth: that's gzipped though02:02
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deFrysk!tell Jack_B about ubotu02:03
aftertafxvjf then brenner_02:03
naliothbrenner_: you mean somebody let gzip off lightly?02:03
bimberiJack_B: /help02:03
Jack_Bthanks deFrysk02:03
vikashcan anybody tell me how to share folder from a mounted drive02:03
dade`bimberi: i386 and ppc are 2 different packages, not the same binary02:03
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fredforfaenis there a solution for peeps who want to install things.....backports seems down , any other repos i could use?02:03
mahangufiles i downloa dand install, where should i put them? i mean untar them to02:03
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brennermahangu: what files?02:04
Jack_Bbimberi, i'm talking about queries for ubotu02:04
bimberidade`: i know that. but the debian packages are for "all" and eclipse _is_ java based02:04
naliothfredforfaen: you ran off yesterday b4 i could point you to the solution02:04
aftertafmahangu:  the tar xvjf|xvzf command does it automatically02:04
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bimberiJack_B: yes, sorry02:04
aftertafyou can the mv the directory to a new name02:04
brenneraftertaf: you're probably right.....02:04
fredforfaennalioth sorry about that02:04
fredforfaenso whats the solution nalioth ?02:04
aftertafbrenner:  i know little, but i progress and pick things up here and there ;)02:04
Jack_Bbimberi, no worries02:04
naliothfredforfaen: your answer is here: http://planet.ubuntulinux.org/02:04
fredforfaennalioth ok thanx02:05
mahanguaftertaf, that means it puts in /usr/bin ?02:05
Qantouriscsorry i must be missing something the 2.6 kernels do not apear02:05
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naliothmahangu: NEVER put anything in /usr/bin. YOU install things into /usr/local/bin02:05
aftertafmahangu:  nope... when you untar a file, it is unpacked where you typed the file....02:05
fredforfaennalioth thanx a million!02:06
aftertafmahangu:  what are you d/l ing anyway.. source code?02:06
naliothfredforfaen: enjoy02:06
bimberidade`: anyway, gtg, good luck :)02:06
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mahanguaftertaf, i did apt-get instead02:07
mahangufor supybot02:07
aftertafmahangu:  if it can be apt-getted, always better to get it that way...02:07
brennerQantourisc: what are you looking for exactly?02:07
twibbler? has anybody had problems with openoffice in Breezy ... I have no help installed which is causing problems ...02:07
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afaiktwo questions02:08
Qantouriscbrenner: a pritty new kernel, and xorg to get some drivers working02:08
afaikhow do I view a vob file?02:08
dade`ubotu: who are you ?02:08
ubotudade`: I think you lost me on that one02:08
Pickle_Weaselwhat's a good MSN client that isn't shoddy and unstable, like aMSN?02:08
afaikand how do I use rar to piece together a multifile rar file02:08
afaikPickle_Weasel, gaim02:08
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Pickle_Weaselanything else? i'd like to keep my AIM and MSN separate =\02:08
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naliothafaik: use tar + bzip202:08
dade`ubotu: yes, you told me to speak english ?02:09
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, dade`02:09
XHK I have to run some kind of file, i typed sudo /<directory>/ but it says there is no such command as sudo: /<directory>/. If i type the directory without sudo, it says i have no permissions :S02:09
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afaiknalioth, how the fuck do I use tar + bzip2 to extract a multifile rar file?02:09
brennerQantourisc: xorg would be xserver-xorg iirc, kernels would be linux-image*....apt-cache search or use synaptic once you've got your repos up.02:09
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dade`stfu02:09
naliothafaik: language please02:09
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Qantouriscbrenner: going to copy over the example reposity now02:09
brenneryou wouldn't....02:09
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XHK I have to run some kind of file, i typed sudo /<directory>/ but it says there is no such command as sudo: /<directory>/. If i type the directory without sudo, it says i have no permissions :S How can i run it then?02:10
brennerubotu: tell dade` about ubotu02:10
afaikI just ran rar x first_file.rar02:10
naliothafaik: if you have unrar-nonfree installed you start at part1.rar or .rar and it'll open02:10
brennerdade`: :)02:10
naliothafaik: that should do it, too02:10
dade`i know02:10
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DanglyBitsis kde 3.5 beta available for ubuntu amd64?02:11
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dade`but it screamed at me with no reason before02:11
dade`so that bot sucks02:11
dade`ahah02:11
XHK I have to run some kind of file, i typed sudo /<directory>/ but it says there is no such command as sudo: /<directory>/. If i type the directory without sudo, it says i have no permissions :S How can i run it then?02:11
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Jack_Bwhat does the multiverse, universe and restricted after the repositories indicate?02:11
brennerXHK: usually means you typed a nonexistent directory...what's the exact command you used?02:11
thrthr;p02:11
brennernon-existing even02:11
nerp\a\XHK, yeah, what brenner said02:11
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jibociao02:11
XHKbut that directory does ecist02:11
afaikthere's another repository02:12
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afaikrarely mentioned, and even hated by most02:12
brennerdade`: yeah....the responses have been critisisced before02:12
brenner:)02:12
XHKI go try more then...02:12
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afaikwarez repository02:12
naliothXHK: you dont execute directories, anyway02:12
afaikapt-get install vmware02:12
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afaikapt-get install cxoffice02:12
Qantouriscok i found the example sources.list :p02:12
afaiketc02:12
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Jack_Bwhat does the multiverse, universe and restricted after the repositories mean?02:13
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naliothJack_B: their legal standing02:13
athaJack_B: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components02:13
Jack_Bnalioth, can you elaborate further?02:13
naliothJack_B: see the link above02:14
havocJack_B: I believe the restricted are the "non-free" packages02:14
Jack_Bahh ok cool02:14
afaikit means packages that are from the universe, packages that are from the multiverse (other dimensions) and restricted (warez)02:14
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fredforfaennalioth that gave me newer software to :)02:14
naliothfredforfaen: imagine that02:14
afaikdon't use the restricted repos unless you want to get arrested02:15
aftertafhehe02:15
catlol02:15
DanglyBitsis kde 3.5 beta available for ubuntu amd64?02:15
deFryskno02:15
aftertafDanglyBits:  nope.02:15
naliothDanglyBits: better to ask in #kubuntu02:15
catnope02:15
DanglyBitsthnk02:15
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brownie17what is the command for file foller?02:16
catbrownie17: ?02:16
catfile foller?02:16
brownie17like howwould i run it form terminal?02:16
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brownie17the archive manager02:16
athayou mean file-roller ?02:16
catbrownie17: file-roller?02:16
brownie17oh ok02:16
deFryskbrownie17, just rightklick a package in nautilus and select extract02:16
lorenzodfile-roller, perhaps?02:16
brownie17deFrysk, i need sudo to do i though02:16
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deFryskbrownie17, sudo to extract ?02:16
deFryskwhy ?02:17
catdeFrysk: extract what?02:17
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cat!doc02:17
ubotuI guess doc is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation is a good doc to read02:17
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deFryskcat that too ;p02:17
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catyeah02:17
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cati love reading that's the thing02:17
nerp!karma seveas02:17
ubotuseveas has neutral karma02:17
catseveas is really good with linux02:18
rejdeni was thinkin, is there any possibility that developers will add Ad-Hoc feature in Gnome Network Connection and also durring instalation?02:18
Qantouriscwhat happens if a pacackage is in more then one repository ?02:18
catQantourisc: nothing02:18
Chousukethe newest one is installed.02:18
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Qantourischmm odd02:18
deFryskQantourisc, conflicts lock ups an broken installs02:18
Chousukeunless you use apt-pinning02:18
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rejdenChousuke, newest stable right?02:18
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Chousukerejden: stable?02:18
Qantouriscstill missing 2.6 kernels after adding the hole list found here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96902:19
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hhurttais Colony some new codename for latest Ubuntu release?02:19
ChousukeIt'll just look at the version number and install the newest.02:19
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rejdenChousuke, yes stable version of package02:19
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naliothQantourisc: you'll only find the 2.6 kernels in breezy02:19
piterrhi02:19
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Qantouriscaaaa02:19
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piterrsomebody can join to #help,0 ? I can't02:19
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Chousukerejden: Apt doesn't distinguish between stable and unstable.02:19
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nerpi'll brb, gotta restart x02:20
rejdenChousuke, ok, i'm BSD guy ;)02:20
ChousukeUnless you use apt-pinning.02:20
Qantourisc                         5.10 (Breezy Badger) Preview Release ?02:20
Chousukewhich is an advanced technique02:20
Qantouriscyou mean i must install 5.1 then ?02:20
ChousukeNo-one's forcing you.02:20
deFrysk5.10 or 5.0402:20
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ChousukeWarty is still usable too, you know.02:21
Qantouriscso how do i upgrade from 5.04 to 5.102:21
deFryskQantourisc, read the topic02:21
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deFryskQantourisc, there is a link there02:21
Skidhm, in screen can I have like two terminals joined as one (note: NOT multisession screen)02:21
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Qantouriscokies02:21
hhurttacommand is /topic, if you're using irssi02:21
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shekharcan someone help me with bluetooth manager in breezy?02:21
athasecond link in /topic02:21
Skidas in irssi at the top, and then *shrug* top in the bottom ?02:21
ccooke-workSkid: what exactly do you mean?02:21
SkidIm sure i saw a screen shot02:21
Skiderm, do you use irssi ccooke-work ?02:21
ccooke-workSkid: ah, right.02:22
ccooke-workyes, I do.02:22
Skidif you have a "split" window.. similar to that in screen02:22
QantouriscWARNING: BACK UP EVERYTHING YOU DON'T WANT TO LOSE BEFORE ATTEMPTING THIS!    <= sounds serieus :p02:22
ccooke-workYou want a split screen.02:22
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Skidsplit window contains irssi completely (aka notices split window), bottom other02:22
ccooke-workthis is possible02:22
piterrby plp #ubuntu,0 ruls02:22
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Skidhmm, google returns all but what im after02:22
ccooke-workSkid: Ctrl-a S02:22
Skidcan't find it in man page02:22
ChousukeQantourisc: It's safer than upgrading gentoo02:22
Skidoki lets see02:22
deFryskChousuke, hehe02:22
QantouriscChousuke: i find upgrading gentoo VERRY safe02:22
deFryskhow true02:22
ChousukeQantourisc: It's still less safe than upgrading Ubuntu02:23
deFryskQantourisc, why are you on ubuntu then ?02:23
ccooke-workSkid: Ctrl-a <tab> to switch between them02:23
ccooke-workSkid: Ctrl-a K to kill one.02:23
QantouriscdeFrysk: because someone else wan't to use it :p02:23
ChousukeEspecially if you're upgrading to unstable gentoo :P02:23
Skidhmm02:23
deFryskQantourisc, ahh :)02:23
Chousukeand hmm02:23
Skiddoesn't seem to be working02:23
Skidctrl-a+s ?02:23
nerpI liked emerge world02:23
Chousukeare you running hoary already?02:23
deFryskQantourisc, smart sombody else that is :)02:23
ccooke-workno, wait. Not ctrl-a K.02:23
Chousukeyou don't need a CD if you are.02:23
dmacdonald111hi again. I seem to have stumbled upon a problem. With mepis (which I am using now) my wireless network is not only recognised, but set up correctly. However, I have been trying to set it up in ubuntu, but it does not even recognise the wireless lan. I have searched the internet, but unable to find any help on the wireless lan that I have. Has anyone managed to do this?02:24
Skidahh02:24
Skidcase sensitive02:24
Chousukejust edit a couple lines in /etc/apt/sources.list02:24
QantouriscdeFrysk: all depends on what you wat from your linux, in my case it's gentoo :p02:24
ccooke-workSkid: YES.02:24
ccooke-workoop.02:24
Skidnice htanks02:24
Skid;P02:24
Skidthanks even02:24
Skidhehe02:24
naliothdmacdonald111: why are you not in #mepis?02:24
ccooke-workSkid: it's Ctrl-a X to kill the current region.02:24
nerpnalioth, because he's trying to fix a ubuntu problem02:24
Skidhmm02:24
dmacdonald111because I want ubuntu working and to get away from mepis.02:24
ccooke-workokay?02:24
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Skidhow do you fork anothe rprocess in the othe rscsreen then?02:24
SkidI can't seem to do anything in it ;)02:24
nerpccooke-work, may I pm?02:25
naliothdmacdonald111: can you copy the network settings from mepis?02:25
deFrysk!wireless02:25
ubotuI guess wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards02:25
Skidhm, that's cool02:25
ccooke-worknerp: sure.02:25
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dmacdonald111nalioth: I have tried, but it doesn't even pick up the wireless lan at all. I have all the settings and information.02:25
ccooke-workSkid: just use the standard screen stuff02:26
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shekharhelp02:26
ccooke-workSkid: ctrl-a <number> to change to another screen window, or ctrl-a : exec bash, say, to run a shell02:26
QantouriscdeFrysk: gentoo is like an ongoing work, there are no "mayor" upgrades :p02:26
deFryskshekhar, good question02:26
ccooke-workor Ctrl-a c inside a region to open a new shell, rather02:26
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deFryskQantourisc, I know , its a boring compile list02:27
catshekhar: ask02:27
shekhardeFrysk:  it helps to ask first to get someone's attention :) -- i have a question about logout in gnome02:27
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QantouriscdeFrysk: who said you had to look at while it's compiling :p02:27
catwhat about it02:27
cat?02:27
Skidccooke-work: thank you :)02:27
deFryskshekhar, here we just ask02:27
QantouriscdeFrysk: you silly :p02:27
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Skidjust found it at botto of manpage, I overlooked it last itme02:27
dmacdonald111I have the broadcom4306 set up as eth0. Is this the wireless lan? I currently use it as wlan002:27
catSkid: where?02:27
deFryskQantourisc, it slows down my pc ;p02:27
QantouriscdeFrysk: hell i'm recompiling my entire system as we speak :p02:27
shekhardeFrysk:  when i want to restart or shut down, most of the time it just saves my session and doesn't restart or shut down02:27
QantouriscdeFrysk: that's why you have "nice" :p02:27
Skidcat: it's like c-a02:27
deFryskQantourisc, better yours slow then mine ;p02:28
Skidwhere c = the control character, I assume02:28
catSkid: give me the link02:28
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Skidcat: I'm reading the man page02:28
efemersalut02:28
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Skid(man screen)02:28
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QantouriscdeFrysk: sec, merging config files02:28
catoh02:28
catman02:28
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Ronaldinhohi everyone02:29
efemerje voulais savoir si le logiciel graveman gere les rippage mp3 wave pour graver un cd audio ?02:29
ccooke-workscreen is surely one of the mostuselful and mind-bogglingly insane programs ever to be written.02:29
KiraA silly question: How does Canonical Ltd. make money?02:29
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Skidccooke-work: indeed02:29
SkidI also like xmove02:29
IcE-bOyhji02:29
IcE-bOyhi02:29
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deFryskQantourisc, </distrowar>02:29
Skidthat's really funky :)02:29
naliothefemer: in #ubuntu-fr, s'il vous plait02:29
IcE-bOyhow can i use my own DSDT table (.aml file) with a intramfs kernel ?02:29
stucelhi i install ubuntu on my ancient machine, it says some packages faild to install and now it cannot start X server, how to configure X server ?02:29
nerpccooke-work, did you recieve my pm?02:29
naliothKira: it's owner is a bazillionaire02:29
efemerok thanks =) nalioth02:29
ccooke-worknerp: ... I replied...02:29
Skidwhat'd be cool, is that if you could resize the windows, and stuff02:30
Ronaldinhoany of you know the "new repositories" where I can fin Java and w32codecs and the rest missing?02:30
Kiraefemer would like to know if the graveman software manages mp3 wave ripping for cd audio burning.02:30
nerpccooke-work, I never got any reply..02:30
ccooke-workhow odd.02:30
nerpyeah, no kidding02:30
QantouriscdeFrysk: i'm not going to go into a distrowar :p02:30
deFryskQantourisc, yes you are! ;p02:30
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ccooke-workthat's odd.02:30
efemerKira: you speak usualy french ?02:30
nerpyeh, no kidding02:30
nerpccooke-work, try /notice02:30
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ulissehello tribe!02:31
ccooke-workit says private messages from unregistered users are blocked. Could have sworn I was registered02:31
Kiraefemer: I live in Quebec. :)02:31
efemerok02:31
QantouriscdeFrysk: quess i got caried away then, but this is my opnion on ALL distro wars: it's because A likes this or doesn't care about B that makes distro X better for him or her.02:31
ccooke-workI mean, I wouldn't be here otherwise...02:31
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nerpccooke-work, ahh.. maybe not ccooke-work but just ccooke is02:31
QantouriscdeFrysk: this difference for evry person, and sistuation, thus it's and endless debate02:31
Ronaldinhoany of you know the "new repositories" where I can fin Java and w32codecs and the rest missing?02:31
deFryskQantourisc, ^502:31
ccooke-workdoh.02:31
QantouriscdeFrysk: bit like taste :)02:31
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ccookeyou have a good point02:31
deFryskQantourisc, for sure02:31
Ronaldinhoguys?02:31
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Ronaldinhoplease02:32
Ronaldinhoany of you know the "new repositories" where I can fin Java and w32codecs and the rest missing?02:32
brennerRonaldinho: i've heard w32codecs has been removed02:32
deFryskRonaldinho, patience please please....02:32
Ronaldinhossory02:32
naliothRonaldinho: breezy or hoary?02:32
stucelhi i install ubuntu on my ancient machine, it says some packages faild to install and now it cannot start X server, how to configure X server ?02:32
Ronaldinhohoary02:32
afaikRonaldinho, the java package probably uses the GNU classpath crap02:32
naliothRonaldinho: http://www.giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/02:32
nerpstucel, dpkg-configure02:32
brennerstucel: did the install stuff up in any way?02:32
Qantouriscstucel: <your terminal editor here> /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:32
stucelthx nerp02:32
afaikRonaldinho, you are better off getting java from sun and installing it02:32
naliothbrenner: want to learn something?02:32
deFryskRonaldinho, its very simple to make a dej for java02:32
Qantouriscstucel: or xorg-config or xorgcfg02:32
deFryskdeb*02:33
stucelthx everybody02:33
Ronaldinhowith alien?02:33
Ronaldinhoright02:33
deFryskno02:33
stucelim sorry brenner, im noob02:33
deFryskRonaldinho, with java package02:33
naliothRonaldinho: the debs i pointed you to were created by an ubuntu developer for ubuntu02:33
deFryskjava-pakage that is02:33
naliothdeFrysk: afaik brenner see my prior post02:33
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deFryskjava-package that is darn spelling02:33
Qantouriscnerp: what is this dpkg-configure thing ? and automates system configurer ?02:33
stucelhow to start the X server ?02:34
afaikbut java-package uses the GNU classpath02:34
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Ronaldinhocool guys02:34
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Qantouriscstucel: startx, or restart the euu xgml or something02:34
brennernalioth: so they _have_ been removed?02:34
Ronaldinhothanx for the help02:34
ccookeafaik: it works fine with the Sun JRE02:34
nerpQantourisc, yeah something like that, it's an original debian tool to set up certain progs / apps that may need to be customised rather than just doing a generic install02:34
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afaikccooke, I have ran into a lot of problems with the GNU classpath02:34
ccookeafaik: I use it to play Go, so it's about my most important application02:35
ulisseis there safe a way to run fsck on a running os? on mounted partitions, I mean..02:35
Qantouriscstucel: normally there is a procces running on screen0 (aka f7) that keeps the X alive02:35
ccookeafaik: the java-package sun java debs are working fine02:35
deFryskyes they work great02:35
naliothbrenner: yes for legal reasons02:35
stuceli tink the problem is, the X server failed to install02:35
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afaikI use it to run JEdit, ArgoUML, and a ton of j2ee stuff02:35
Qantouriscstucel: so you can eiter restart that procces or run startx (single launch of X)02:35
brennernalioth: if so, won't that guy/girl be liable for prosecution?02:35
naliothbrenner: got a pencil or a bookmark tool?02:35
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brennernalioth: heh. haven't been online recently.....shoot02:35
naliothbrenner: want the URLs so you can send seveas to jail?02:36
naliothbrenner: seveas wrote them and was hosting them02:36
Qantourischowlong does .... euuu upgrade to breeze take ?02:36
Qantourisc:p02:36
naliothbrenner: these are for hoary http://www.giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/02:36
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deFryskQantourisc, 600 meg + installing02:36
naliothbrenner: and these are for breezy http://giannaros.org/tor/bt/02:37
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ompaululisse, no02:37
naliothbrenner: now you can be helpful02:37
deFryskQantourisc, so depends on your bandwith and proc speed02:37
QantouriscdeFrysk: arg and i download the 5.04 yust yesterday :p should have downloaded the 5.1 :D02:37
ulisseompaul, and is there a way to ceck a disk w/o too much complicated instructions?02:37
concept10Today's breezy update includes 99 updates :)02:37
deFryskQantourisc, you should but upgrade is seemless so should work fine02:37
ompaululisse, if you want to reboot the machine I can give you a one liner02:37
ulisseompaul, I discovered that my GF, at work, always used the reset button to switch OS...02:38
QantouriscdeFrysk: i'm upgrading now :p02:38
deFryskconcept10, due to modules of xorg02:38
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manukCan anyone help me with ps2 mouse configuration on laptop?02:38
brennernalioth: of course i don't want to send him to jail...i was just curious02:38
ulisseompaul, shoot the line02:38
ompaululisse, sudo shutdown -F now02:38
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QantouriscdeFrysk: i'll use this time to explore gnome (i'm an ion user) :)02:38
naliothbrenner: send the new users to those links, they are java j2re and sdk and w32codecs for hoary and breezy02:38
ompaululisse, when you reboot the box it will check alll partitions02:38
renjiihow do i use ./configure switches while using apt-get?02:38
deFryskQantourisc, make sure to read the upgradenotes , /topic02:38
naliothrenjii: you dont02:39
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renjiido'h02:39
ccookeQantourisc: what's ion like?02:39
ompaululisse, and remove the other os :-)02:39
brennernalioth: will do02:39
ccookealways meant to try it02:39
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ompaululisse, stops them problems02:39
Qantouriscccooke: as in: when using it, or as in "how does it look" ?02:39
renjiiso, thta means, i'll have to donwload source and compile if i want custom options?02:39
ccookeQantourisc: when using it.02:39
naliothrenjii: correct02:39
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concept10deFrysk, have you done the update yet?  if so, any problems?02:40
ulisseompaul, I wish remove the oter US (un-operating system...), but I can't, she need it for work...02:40
naliothrenjii: ubotu has msg'd you02:40
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renjiinalioth - thanks02:40
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ulisseompaul, but I've made a nice job, she loves Ubuntu and hates "the other"...02:40
deFryskconcept10, no probs here ,ugraded a few weeks ago02:40
Qantouriscccooke: it's a wm that splits your screen into pieces, and in each piece you can put a window, you can recut screen areas and merge: http://qantourisc.afraid.org:8080/About%20Me/ion3.png02:40
ompaululisse, so teach her to use shootdown - R now02:41
brownie17i upgraded from limewire to limewire pro, and now when i click x it shutsdown limewire, instead of minimizing it to system stray02:41
IcE-bOywhere can i find the .config file that use ubuntu kernel ?02:41
ccookeQantourisc: yeah, I've seen it. Just never got around to trying it.02:41
ccookeQantourisc: anyway. it's off-topic.02:41
ulisseompaul, I'v done it right now! ;)02:41
ompaululisse, sudo shootdown -R now   <reboot02:41
deFryskbrownie17, check the settings of limewire02:41
Qantouriscccooke: :p02:41
brownie17ulisse, what is shootdown -r?02:41
ccookeQantourisc: I should know better than to indluge my curiosity all the time...02:41
ulissebrownie17, I think a typo...02:42
naliothbrownie17: it's a misspelling02:42
brownie17deFrysk, are you familiar with it? there doesn't seem to be a setting02:42
deFryskshutdown -r now is reboot02:42
ompaulbrownie17, -r actuall reboot02:42
brownie17ulisse, nalioth ok. just trying to learn something02:42
ompaul-R was wrong02:42
naliothbrownie17: not all of us have english as our first language02:42
brownie17runlevel 6!02:42
Qantouriscccooke: :p02:42
brownie17nalioth, sorry!02:42
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brownie17nalioth, my apologies kind sir, and i know how frsutrating it is to try to converse wiht someone whom you cannot fully understan,d or be understood by02:43
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sviestainishi, what does "can't read super block" mean?02:44
Qantouriscsviestainis: if i'm correct: your in trouble :p let's hope i'm rong02:44
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ompaulsviestainis, it means you need to run fsck -y02:44
shekharcan someone help me with bluetooth manager?02:45
brownie17ompaul, the ah "distro-upgrade" option (is that correct), will that upgrade me to breezy?02:45
nxv__which packages are the x headers / dev files?02:46
naliothbrownie17: with an edited sources.list, yes02:46
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naliothnxv__: xlibs-dev and xlibs-static-dev02:46
nxv__nalioth: thx02:46
spayneshekhar: what's up with gnome-bluetooth?02:46
brownie17nalioth, hm.. will that give me the option in grub boot, like whne updating kernel, between booting hoary and breezy?02:47
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ompaulsviestainis, a file system has several superblocks, they are lists of the locations of what inodes are in use (addresses of files) and the one that your machine wants to use is not in sync with the others so it wants to check the filesystem, this is done with the fsck command02:47
nalioth_zZzbrownie17: no. it will upgrade your hoary02:47
Qantourischmm i thouged running this in X wasn't a good idea02:47
ompaul!tell brownie17 about breezy02:47
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brownie17nalioth_zZz, is there a way to dual boot without partitioning?02:48
FhaeTonOk so Ubuntuisthemostpopular02:48
Mose`zdarowa02:48
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brownie17ompaul, danke-schern02:48
FhaeTonja02:48
FhaeTonja02:48
ompaulbrownie17, don't complain if it falls over, it is development, so it is not finished02:48
FhaeTonvas ist los ?02:48
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ompaul!de02:49
ubotude is, like, totally, #ubuntu-de bitte.02:49
funkyHathow easy is it to get ubuntu connected to AOL internet?02:49
FhaeTonwo ist de banhoff?02:49
brownie17ompaul, im not upgrading yet. um... one more. when i click links in X-Chat, it goes to konqueror. but firefox is my default. how do i make X-Chat open firefox for links?02:49
brennerbrownie17: set firefox as default broswer i would think02:49
brownie17brenner, it is allready ^^^02:49
concept10brownie17, are you using kde?02:50
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sviestainiswell, thanks for explaining. That message "can't read superblock" was displayed, when i tried to mount my usb flash storage. does it mean, that my usb device is screwed?02:50
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brownie17concept10, i have kubuntu-desktop installed, but i am using gnome currently02:50
chrissturmdoes anyone here know if its possible to install windows xp on hda6 (i need a windows partition and i wonder if i can just shrink hda5 and install windows on the free space)02:50
concept10brownie17, goto System > Prefs > Preffered Applications02:51
brownie17FhaeTon, /join #ubuntu-de02:51
deFryskchrissturm, yes but your grub will be gone02:51
FhaeTonok02:51
FhaeTonwhere is it02:51
brownie17concept10, it says firefox02:51
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chrissturmdeFrysk, but i can just boot with a ubuntu boot cd and resore it, right?02:51
concept10brownie17, right-clink on the link, and then use run new mozilla firefox02:52
brownie17FhaeTon, what do you mean where is it. just type "/join #ubuntu-de" for german support02:52
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FhaeTonwhere network02:52
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brennerFhaeTon: irc.freenode.net02:53
deFryskchrissturm, in the wiki its explained somewhere ,I dont use windows so not sure howto fix it02:53
hutgyrrive just used tar c DISK1 >archive1.bz2 to make the DISK1 folder into an archive from the command line but its the exact same size, its hasn't compressed it at all02:53
brownie17concept10, that works :) but it takes longer :(02:53
brennerFhaeTon: just type the command brownie17 gave you directly into here02:53
FhaeTonok02:53
IcE-bOywhere can i find the .config file that use ubuntu kernel ?02:53
brennerbrownie17: you doing ctrl-clicks?02:54
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hutgyrris there another flag i need to specify to compress it?02:54
athahutgyrr: use j flag with tar to use bzip2 compression02:54
hutgyrrwhat would be the best compression to use. I want to be able to open it on macs and pcs also02:54
brownie17brenner, no02:55
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joel__what media players does ubuntu support?02:55
FhaeTonI know german but I don't want to speak it man02:55
brennerbrownie17: try it on a link and see what happens02:55
brennerjoel__: /msg ubotu player02:55
brownie17what is NFS?02:55
brenner*players02:55
brownie17brenner, nothing02:55
joel__can I find that on the ubuntu page?02:56
brennerjoel__: that's not even a definitive list02:56
ompaulbrownie17,  network file system02:56
joel__what?02:56
brennerjoel__: find what?02:56
QantouriscdeFrysk: guess what :D update failed :D02:56
joel__the obotu player02:56
ompaulbrownie17,  some people say 'no fine* security'02:56
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andrilhello all again :)02:56
brennerjoel__: no, nvm...here:02:56
deFryskQantourisc, how ?02:56
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brenner!players02:56
ubotuwell, players is Audio/MP3 Players: amaroK, Beep-media-player, JuK, Rhythmbox, XMMS ; Video players: Totem, Xine, Mplayer, VLC02:56
QantouriscdeFrysk: i think because X was still running02:57
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deFryskQantourisc, not possible02:57
deFryskqa do apt-get -f install02:57
deFryskQantourisc,02:57
QantouriscdeFrysk: i'll tell you when it fails again02:57
deFryskQantourisc, do apt-get -f install02:57
eruinshould /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/  contain anything?02:57
QantouriscdeFrysk: i'm already foing apt-get dist-upgrade -f02:58
andriland update on any time tble on when Breezy will be final?02:58
brennereruin: _i've_ got stuff in there....02:58
deFryskQantourisc, if it fails again do apt-get -f install and then again dist-upgrade02:58
brownie17andril, oct 13th02:58
deFrysknot friday02:58
QantouriscdeFrysk: ok i will :p02:58
hutgyrrwhats the difference between a tar and a tarball02:58
eruinbrenner, yeah, I notice most others do too, but not here for some obscure reason02:58
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andrilbrownie17: thanks I can't wait02:59
brennergettin' close :)02:59
brownie17hutgyrr, none, they are one and the same. i think02:59
andrilbrenner: thanks02:59
eruinand I'm thinking that has something to do with my laptop powering down due to overheat all the time ;P02:59
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brownie17andril, same02:59
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brennerandril: not sure what for...but you're welcome. :D02:59
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JustinHHa program dowsn't respond. how can i close it?03:01
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QantouriscdeFrysk: i yust hope after i done all this, i can get sounds and vga to work03:01
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deFryskQantourisc, make sure to apt-get update if it fails again couse the repos are updated regurarly03:01
JustinHH(without restarting the cmputer :P)03:01
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QantouriscdeFrysk: doing that as we speak03:02
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deFryskQantourisc, ;)03:02
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stelvitHello to all03:02
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JustinHH!pingme03:03
ubotuJustinHH: Are you on ritalin?03:03
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gcmhello03:03
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deFryskhello03:03
Jack_Bhello03:04
brennerJustinHH: easy way is to use system monitor03:04
JustinHHa program dowsn't respond. how can i terminate the program without restarting the pc?03:04
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gcmdo you speak freanch03:04
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deFryskJustinHH, killall <prog>03:04
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ompaul!fr03:04
ubotufr is, like, Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais03:04
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syntaxxi just wanna know if in debian sarge have a autoconfiguration for networking just like ubuntu?03:04
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ompaulsyntaxman, that would be a debian question03:05
deFrysksyntaxx, I guess it does it even better03:05
deFryskin ubuntu that is ;p03:05
syntaxxompaul: i join debian and yet they said i might get a better question here in ubuntu =/03:05
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ompaulsyntaxx guess you gota do both then :)03:06
brennersyntaxx: why not try out a livecd?03:06
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ompaulsyntaxx, i take it you are talking about the gui for it03:06
Qantourisci'm going to game some :p03:07
Qantourisci need it atm :)03:07
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Qantourisco and thank you all03:07
icewtanyone happen to know where could i get a version of skype that works with hoary?03:07
kemikskype.com03:08
icewtkemik, the latest version doesn't work03:08
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festergeee.. upgrded, anew kernel auto install and now nvidia and wireless modules no ;lonhger work03:08
icewtkemik, unmet dependencies. older version used to work03:08
festerbrilliant !03:08
ompaulicewt, if you want I can dcc it to you03:08
kemikicewt:  ah :/ cant apt-get the deps' ?03:09
icewtompaul, that would be nice03:09
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syntaxxompaul: but do u think there is?03:09
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killianhmm i'm back03:09
killiani'm qantourisc03:09
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icewtkemik, well, i don't know where to get the old ones03:09
ompaulsyntaxx in debian no, I think you have tools but they are not as good by a long chalk03:09
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killianeven apt-install fails03:09
syntaxxompaul: ic thanks03:10
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joel__How do I install xmms 1.2.1?03:10
icewtkemik, ah, i understood you wrong. well, i think the latest version wuold work with breezy, but hoary seems to have too old version of libqt3c102-mt03:10
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ompaulicewt, it is 6.52megs in size :(03:11
bzimagekillian, Qantourisc: why twice?03:11
kemikicewt:  ok.. hmm. well try to get an old one and use that until breezy is stable03:11
bzimage(user)03:11
Jack_Bubuntu is lagging like shit, is there a way i can kill some unused processes03:11
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killianbzimage: duno, windows habbit i quess :D03:11
icewtkemik, that's what i'm trying to do, ompaul is just sending me the old one :)03:11
festeropen "top" and look at the porocesses running03:11
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deFryskjoel__, sudo apt-get install xmms03:11
kemikicewt:   skype_1.2.0.11-1_i386.deb i got that one , can publish it on www03:12
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d2dchatwhat is the package name for Gnome Terminal?03:12
kemikicewt:  oh, ok.. nvm then =)03:12
festerJack_B - open a console and type top03:12
deFryskd2dchat, gnome-terminal03:12
ompauljoel__, Installed: 1.2.10+cvs20050209-2ubuntu2 its in main03:12
d2dchatdeFrysk, thanks:)03:12
ompauljoel__, so use synaptic or apt-get to get it03:12
joel__defrysk__, thanks it installed03:12
Jack_Bok fester03:12
killiandependecie failes03:13
d2dchatwhy is Terminal not appearing in my Applications menu when it says it is installed03:13
killiandeFrysk: depenecy issues03:13
d2dchatTerminal disappeared when i went from hoary to breezy and back to hoary03:13
kemikd2dchat:  applications->system tools -> terminal ? noe?03:13
d2dchatnope, no terminal no root terminal03:13
deFryskkillian, post your sources.list in pastebin03:13
kemikouch03:13
Jack_Bholy crap i only got 128mb of ram and 100 mb is used already and i only got xchat and terminal open03:13
d2dchatyea, it hurts:(03:13
d2dchati can use "console" though03:13
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d2dchator03:14
d2dchatKonsole rather03:14
festerHi all, Ubuntu auto updated itself and installed a new kernel. Now my wireless and nvidia don't work with new kernel. How do i get the modules "yupgraded" to the newer version ?03:14
killiandeFrysk: that file is now changed to the standard breezy03:14
kemikJack_B:  what cpu you got? 128mb of ram isnt much03:14
brennerJack_B: you running gnome?03:14
killiandeFrysk: maybe i need to resync ?03:14
bzimageJack_B, first of all.. linux reserves memory infront03:14
deFryskkillian, I want to see it anyway ;p03:14
kemikJack_B:  i'd recommend XFCE or IceWM for such an undersized system03:14
killiandeFrysk: :D03:14
Jack_Bim running gnome03:14
Jack_Bi got a p3 73303:15
festeryJack_B - IGNORE memory usred in TOP - it includes cache memory03:15
killiandeFrysk: pritty hard trough console ....03:15
kemikJack_B:  256mb of memory would be a good upgrade (and 256mb is dirtcheap... )03:15
Jack_Byeh kemik03:15
brennerJack_B: yeah....the two recommended DEs might be better for your specs03:15
killiandeFrysk: i'll msg youy03:15
deFryskoke03:15
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festerHow do I ugrade my modules to a newer version kernel ?03:16
d2dchatheh i found terminal03:16
JustinHHbv03:16
d2dchatit was under accessories?03:16
d2dchatlol03:16
JustinHH:D03:16
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d2dchatbut no root terminal03:16
Dintuithello03:16
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kemikd2dchat:  well "sudo -i" in a terminal and there you go03:16
brennerheh...OT: does RAM help with HDD access?  this lappy only has a 4200RPM...bootup and other things seem quite slow....i'm not sure if it's the HDD or my measly 256Mb of RAM that's the problem...03:16
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killiandeFrysk: if evrything went right, i should have messaged you my sources.list03:16
d2dchatkemik, ty:)03:17
kemikbrenner:  well. yes and no03:17
fester256mb of RAM ? lol ...03:17
romanno03:17
kemikbrenner:  it will allow your system to load less often from HDD, but it wont speed up HDD access03:17
Dintuitglxgears does'nt run on my ubuntu03:17
brownie17i have 700mg of ram :)03:17
brennerfester: i know...i'm upgrading this weekend though. :)03:17
DintuitXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".03:17
DintuitError: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual03:17
funkyHatare the admin and lib sections on the ubuntu installer CD?03:17
brennerkemik: but general application loading etc. whould be faster?03:17
JustinHHis a dvb card refer also to a tv-tuner?03:18
kemikbrenner:  well, not while it access the HD, but once it's loaded in mem it wont have to load as often03:18
bob832fester:  kind of new to the linux but from what i have read, i think you have to reinstall the modules . . .someone please correct me if i am wrong03:18
hutgyrris there anyway to see a progress status on the making of a tarball from the command line?03:18
kemik(load as often from HDD, and that will be a nice speedup... )03:18
brennerkemik: righto..thanks for the info03:18
deFryskkillian, optherwise put it in #flood03:18
brennerhutgyrr: use verbose mode03:19
Dintuiti seems i have all the libs i can think of and i have no broken dependencies: "i think" so? this is in breezy buy the way nvidia 420 GO03:19
festerthx bob832. I guessed Ubuntu would have done this for me. Seems pretty dumb t9o install a new kernel, makje it default and then have no wireless or X connection03:19
kemikfester:  im not really sure, but maybe 'insmod module' would load it03:19
icewtompaul, ah, it finished. thank you very much :)03:19
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bob832true03:19
kemikfester:  i'd try "insmod"03:20
festerI suppose i could force it but... bugger it.. I'll stay at the old kernel.. it nworks..03:20
Dintuitlaptops rule! :003:20
festerOk, I'll reboot to old kernel and retry.. think it would be automatic... grumble...03:20
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kemikfester:  why not try insmod ? it will load modules into the current kernel03:21
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kemikor modprobe03:21
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festerOK, I'll try them.. I know the nvidia module name :-) but not sure of the wireless card. there are 4 I think. Probelm is.. will I need to do this every time I boot ?03:22
ompaulIcewt np03:22
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bob832fester:  sorry, couldn't tell ya03:22
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infinito_awaydoes anyone know a client for msn messenger with video/audio support?03:23
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killianinfinito: wine :p (half kidding)03:23
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kemikinfinito:  i heard "amsn" might have it.. but im not sure03:23
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infinitokemik: i tried ams cvs version and doesnt work ok03:23
ompaulicewt, you will need a kdelib to make that work (thanks to skype building it the way they did)03:23
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Mpmcwhen is the new version of ubuntu out?03:24
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ompaul13 oct03:24
icewtompaul, yes. i had that version, but then i removed it, and after a while wanted to install skype back, but the latest version wouldn't install anymore.03:24
ompaulahh03:24
JustinHHi can play mp3-files with music player but i can't play them with xmms! why?03:25
Mpmcyou need the plugub for it03:25
avalostJustinHH, have the correct driver selected?03:25
JustinHHi can play mp3-files with music player(rhytmboxn't play them with xmms! why?03:25
Mpmcplgin03:25
smottafter i edit grub's menu.lst, am i expected to run any command to update grub or will it just work?03:25
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MpmcJustinHH: You need to download a plugin03:25
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JustinHHaham03:26
cyberixaeIs there graphwiz for Ubuntu?03:26
Mpmc!info ubuntuguide03:26
deFrysk!tell JustinHH about mp303:26
cyberixaeOr maybe a better alternative?03:26
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JustinHHi know about the restricted formats03:27
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MpmcJustinHH: I play MP3's fine on XMMS03:27
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sleptIs anyone familliar with openoffice, I need to know how to do a "linear fit" for some Points in a Diagramm, but I can't find it. I know this is of topic but I'm in a hurry to get the protocol done. So please msg me if you know how to do that03:27
JustinHHbut how can i cat a plugin for xmms03:27
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JustinHHit doesnt apear in the plugin area from xmms03:28
deFryskxmms-mad JustinHH03:28
deFryskintall that03:28
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bob832last night, i successfully changed the volumn control up by the clock to change the PCM volume, however, my volume keys on the keyboard still change master - is there a way to change the keys too?03:29
JustinHHok03:29
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JustinHHi have installed xmms-mad but xmms still stops responding03:31
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deFryskJustinHH, restart xmms03:31
killianhow do i resolve depencie errors ?03:31
boxedmanHi all03:31
athaJustinHH: have you tried different output plugins?03:31
deFryskkillian, by having the proper repositories03:31
boxedmanI was wondering, can ubuntu be installed from the liveCD?03:31
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JustinHHno03:31
boxedmanah, ok03:32
deFryskJustinHH, what are you trying to play ?03:32
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JustinHHits working03:32
mahangu`afkhow can i kill a dir and all the file sin it?03:32
killiandeFrysk: well they are right remember ...03:32
JustinHHit was the output plugin03:32
deFryskJustinHH, thats what I thought ;)03:32
deFryskesd for gnome03:32
athaI think I had the same problem earlier - xmms just froze03:32
deFryskarts for kde03:33
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deFryskkillian, prove it and put them in #flood03:33
deFryskkillian, still havent seen them03:33
killiandeFrysk: ow03:34
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killiandeFrysk: aa you mean, i see nothing, as in no text :D03:34
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deFryskkillian, exactly03:34
deFryskkillian, I want your sources.list ;p03:34
JustinHHis there any programs and drivers for my tv-tuner?03:34
killiandeFrysk: i thouged you meant, i see no problems :D03:35
fredforfaen!breezy03:35
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade03:35
deFryskkillian, I see nothing :D03:35
killiandeFrysk: i did /exec cat /etc/apt/sources.list, what did i do rogn ?03:35
deFryskkillian, nothing, but I dont see them03:35
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deFryskkillian, go to #flood and I'll show you mine to compare ok ?03:36
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killiandeFrysk: id rather learn how to use exec :D03:36
deFryskkillian, practice in #flood03:37
JustinHHis there any programs and drivers avaialble for my tv-tuner?03:37
killiandeFrysk: :D03:37
mahangu`afkhow can i kill a dir and all the file sin it?03:37
avalosthmm, anyone know of e17 packages for breezy?03:37
kemikmahangu`afk:  rm -rf dir03:37
kemikmahangu`afk:  rm -rf DIRNAME03:37
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JustinHHdeFrysk, :  is there any programs and drivers avaialble for my tv-tuner?03:37
fredforfaenif i upgrade to breezu via apt will it install a new kernel?03:37
fredforfaen*breezy03:38
catfredforfaen: well if you want03:38
athayes03:38
DarkOriginWhen I'm doing 'fakeroot make-jpkg jdk-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin' (official file downloaded from java.sun.com) in order to create a .deb package for it it loads some plugins, but then tells me that none of those match what I'm trying to do.. Can someone tell me how I can install java SDK 1.5 then?03:38
Baluhello everyone03:38
JustinHHhey balu03:38
fredforfaenwhat about my nvidia driver , will that be affected?03:38
DarkOriginShould I just copy it somewhere and change the PATH variable ?03:38
kemik!tell DarkOrigin about java03:38
catfredforfaen: not really03:38
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catDarkOrigin: did u do chmod a+x bin.?03:38
DarkOriginye03:39
fredforfaencat so x should work with nvidia even after upgrade then.....03:39
DarkOriginthanks kemik, I'll test the link.03:39
kemikDarkOrigin:  see pm03:39
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catyes it should fredforfaen03:39
BaluI'm fiddling around with my cd-burner for a while now, but cdrecord won't recognize it as a burner :(03:39
catfakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.bin03:39
DarkOriginpm? From the bot, or from you? Because I can only see one from the bot..03:39
catdid u do that DarkOrigin ?03:39
BaluIt lists "Supported modes: " (empty)03:39
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Baluany idea?03:39
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fredforfaenwhat about the kernel i want a new kernel but then i have to install the nvidia driver one more time , dont i?03:39
DarkOrigincat: no, it's the jdk , not the jre.03:39
avalost!e1703:39
ubotuavalost: I don't know, could you explain it?03:39
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catbla03:40
joel__how do I get mpg files to play? Is there a certain program I need?03:40
avalostubotu, e17 is the next generation enlightenment www.enlightenment.org or www.rasterman.com03:40
ubotuokay, avalost03:40
DarkOrigin'fakeroot make-jpkg jdk-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin' <-- that was what I did03:40
DarkOriginafter setting it a+x of course.03:40
avalost!e1703:40
ubotufrom memory, e17 is the next generation enlightenment http://www.enlightenment.org or http://www.rasterman.com03:40
catok and u got an error?03:40
Pickle_Weasel!tell joel__  about w32codecs03:40
sleptjoel__, codecs and a player03:40
Balu!cdrecord03:40
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, Balu03:40
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joel__Can you tell me where to get those codecs?03:41
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chrissturmDarkOrigin, you dont need to set it +x if you use make-jpkg03:41
kemikDarkOrigin:  the one from bot03:41
DarkOrigincat: I got the error that there were no matching plugins found.03:41
JustinHH !tell hustinhh about w32codecs03:41
catoh03:41
JustinHH !tell justinhh about w32codecs03:41
fredforfaencan i do the breezy upgrade from X (Gnome)?03:41
DarkOriginokay, kemik that link is still connecting ... I think the server doesn't respond.03:41
chrissturmDarkOrigin, your java-package deb is too old. using hoary?03:41
kemikDarkOrigin:  well if it's the jdk, all you need todo is ./binfile03:42
DarkOriginusing colony-503:42
kemikDarkOrigin:  and set your path to the directory were javac is located03:42
ubuntuHello everybody :)03:42
DarkOriginkemik: and install it somewhere and change PATH variable - right?03:42
chrissturmDarkOrigin, i tried that 2 days ago and it worked03:42
cathello ubuntu03:42
DarkOriginYea, where is the file that holds the global PATH then?03:42
JustinHHdoes tv-tuners work under linux?03:42
DarkOriginhmm, not working for me chrissturm ...03:42
catJustinHH: yes why03:42
kemikDarkOrigin:  i've done it in my ~/.bashrc03:42
chrissturmmake-jpkg <path_to_bin_file>03:42
mahangu`afkcan i get ubuntu to work across two monitors?03:42
JustinHHi want to use my tv-tuner03:43
DarkOriginkemik: I'd like it for all users, not only the one I'm on at the moment.03:43
avalostubotu, forget e1703:43
ubotuavalost: i forgot e1703:43
kemikDarkOrigin:   PATH=/usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun/bin/:"${PATH}"   <- add that line to .bashrc03:43
DarkOriginSo I ned the global..03:43
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JustinHHcat, : and i don't know what i must get to get it working03:43
kemikDarkOrigin:  ok.. well i think its in /etc/ somewhere :)03:43
ubuntuI don't know03:43
avalostubotu, e17 is the next generation enlightenment www.enlightenment.org or www.rasterman.com, www.get-e.org or www.edevelop.org03:43
ubotuavalost: okay03:43
DarkOriginchrissturm: yea, that's what I did as well (in the same dir as the .bin tho), but it tells me it needs a plugin.03:43
ccookemahangu`afk: yes. How easy it is really depends on your graphics setup03:43
ccookemahangu`afk: I'm doing it now - it's very easy with the latest ATI drivers03:43
DarkOriginkemik: yea... but where ;) I'm originally from gentoo, and I'm pretty confused :-)03:43
XHKHow can i set up adsl connection in ubuntu? I installed RP-PPPoE, like ubuntunguide told me to do, everything went well, but if i wanna connect, it will timeout.03:44
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JustinHHcat, : and i don't know what i must do to get the tv-tuner  working03:44
ccookeJustinHH: tv tuners? My home TV is running through mythtv right now under ubuntu. And I can't recommend mythtv enough03:44
kemikDarkOrigin:  not sure.. if you put it in /etc/skel/.bashrc all users you create from now wil hae it in their path03:44
XHKIf someone knows, plz tell how can i set up asdl connection.03:45
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JustinHHccooke, why?03:45
mahangu`afkccooke, where do i set it up?03:45
JustinHHccooke, isn't it working well?03:45
DarkOriginyea, that's just not good enough.. I'd like it to be in the global - not in the bashrc of every user from now on.. I might as well do it right from the beginning, instead of doing small hacks every time I find something I dislike a bit.03:45
securebootanyone know of a good guide on how to dual boot mac os x and ubuntu?03:45
ccookeJustinHH: it works beuatifully.03:45
ccookeJustinHH: really great system03:45
ccookemahangu`afk: what's your graphics setup, please?03:46
DarkOriginchrissturm: are you sure you did it with the JDK of 1.5 ?03:46
XHKIf someone knows, plz tell how can i set up asdl connection.03:46
chrissturm1.5.0.503:46
DarkOriginweird.. what version of fakeroot do you have ?03:46
chrissturmDarkOrigin, i can send you the deb i created03:46
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DarkOriginI would absolutely adore you if you did.03:46
bobbobbobhow do I install w32 codecs03:47
Robinho_Peixotobobbobbob:  www.ubuntuguide.org03:47
XHKHow can i set up adsl connection in ubuntu? I installed RP-PPPoE, like ubuntunguide told me to do, everything went well, but if i wanna connect, it will timeout.03:47
Balu!tell bobbobbob about w32codecs03:47
JustinHH !tell justinhh .deb03:47
mahangu`afkccooke, where can i found out?03:47
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killianback at ubunutu :)03:47
killiandid all that :D03:47
chrissturmDarkOrigin, look here: http://rafb.net/paste/results/RK5Clb56.html03:48
deFrysk!tell Robinho_Peixoto about ubuntuguide03:48
JustinHH !tell justinhh deb03:48
XHKIf someone knows, plz tell how can i set up asdl connection.03:48
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DarkOriginthanks chrissturm03:48
killiandeFrysk: ok thanks i'm on track again :p03:48
deFrysk!ubuntuguide03:48
ubotuwell, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.03:48
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killiandeFrysk: best course is a crash course :p03:48
JustinHHcan somebody explain about deb files?03:48
XHKIf someone knows, plz tell how can i set up adsl connection.03:48
chrissturmDarkOrigin, its just the output of make-jpkg on my system03:48
deFryskkillian, for sure :D03:48
killiandeFrysk: you learn a lot on those03:48
chrissturmwhat version of java-package do you have?03:48
wrabbit01Can somebody help me out... I was hoping to follow these instructions.... http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories but they are for hoary.  I'm using breezy.  Does it matter or is there a way to convert to hoary?03:49
chrissturmDarkOrigin, what version of java-package do you have?03:49
DarkOriginchrissturm: Okay.. Let me show you mine ;-)03:49
DarkOrigindon't know, the one from this morning..03:49
ccookemahangu`afk: Do you know what your video card is?03:49
XHKHow can i set up adsl connection in ubuntu? I installed RP-PPPoE, like ubuntunguide told me to do, everything went well, but if i wanna connect, it will timeout.03:49
deFrysk!tell wrabbit01 about ubuntuguide03:49
DarkOriginI'm using the preview of ubuntu (colony-5)03:49
athaXHK: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE03:49
XHKty03:49
wrabbit01thanks deFrysk03:50
kemikDarkOrigin:  if you find where the globalsetting is, please feel free to PM me the info :)03:50
mahangu`afk*find out03:50
killiandeFrysk: ok seems to be installed now :p03:50
deFryskkillian, cool ;p03:50
killiandeFrysk: back to the orignial problem :p no sound and video :D03:50
wrabbit01!faq03:50
ubotuit has been said that faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/03:50
deFryskkillian, complete upgrade is done ?03:50
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killiandeFrysk: seems to me yes03:50
DarkOriginhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/xue0Rk65.html -- that's my output.03:50
killiandeFrysk: no errors so03:51
deFryskkillian, then reboot03:51
DarkOriginkemik: I will..03:51
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killiandeFrysk: o wait , fergot one03:51
killiandeFrysk: the after update thing03:51
deFryskkillian, ooh ;p03:51
DarkOriginwait a second..03:51
ccookemahangu`afk: what is your computer? Is it new? Old?03:51
deFryskkillian, is it an on board soundcard ?03:52
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chrissturmDarkOrigin, i have version 0.26 of java-package installed03:52
DarkOriginhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/PhRskR56.html -- chrissturm that's what my package tells me..03:52
DarkOriginhmm, weird.. I wonder why my doesn't update ..03:52
killiandeFrysk: yes :p03:52
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deFryskkillian, dist-upgrade is done now correct ?03:53
bobbobbobI am trying to install realplayer but when I type in the command line it just says could not find package.  This is true for everything I try to install and the ubuntu guide does not tell me where i can find the packages.03:53
killiandeFrysk: i won't be rebooting i'll be going to runlevel 0 and back up (kernel is already running)03:53
killiandeFrysk: yes03:53
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deFryskkillian, first open alsamixer03:54
deFryskdoes it work ?03:54
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richardhi @ all!03:54
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catrichard: hi03:54
deFrysk<-not all03:54
MachineScrewhibernation works yay03:54
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killiandeFrysk: nope, he doesn't find a soundcard, but i'm familiar with resolving these kinds of errors (gentoo), question will be how do i add hardware modules without downloading the kernel-sources03:54
bobbobbobhow the fuck do I install realplayer or any other player that supports mpg files for that matter03:55
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deFryskkillian, modprobe <module>03:55
killiandeFrysk: going to go to runlevel 0 and back now first03:55
deFryskok03:55
killiandeFrysk if i still remember how  :D03:55
deFrysklol03:55
catbobbobbob: apt-get install realplayer03:55
MachineScrewget the horay-backports-staging and get gstreamer-plugins-multiverse03:55
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bobbobbobcat: I tried that, it says it cannot find package realplayer03:56
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MachineScrewalso apt-get install mplayer03:56
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QantouriscdeFrysk: oeps :D03:56
QantouriscdeFrysk: runlevel 0 = shutdown :p03:57
kemikbobbobbob:  you have to enable the universe/multiverse repositories03:57
deFryskhey Qantourisc03:57
QantouriscdeFrysk: o well :p03:57
deFrysklol03:57
kemik!tell bobbobbob about repositories03:57
bobbobbobkemik: and how exactly do I do that?03:57
MachineScrewbobbobbobbob: get the horay-backports-staging and get gstreamer-plugins-multiverse03:57
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kemikMachineScrew:  not everyone thinks backports should be suggested03:57
cantrel29anyone tell me how I can stop mysql?03:57
MachineScrewbobbobbobbob: get the horay-extras-staging03:57
deFryskQantourisc, still no sound ?03:58
bob832i just changed my resolution to 1680x1050 and on the right side of my screen, there is a section of black lines - the monitor is an LCD screen, how can i get rid of the lines?03:58
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MachineScrewI sugest what works03:58
MachineScrewthey work03:58
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cantrel29I assume that mysql runs under initd03:58
kemikbackports recently crashed alot of users firefox03:58
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ccookeindeed.03:58
deFryskbackb0rks03:59
kemikoh.. did he get upset ?03:59
QantouriscdeFrysk: my paranio dad has a password evrywhere .... so for each reboot i need his password ....03:59
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deFryskQantourisc, you want me to give you his pwd ?03:59
deFryskQantourisc, lemme hack03:59
kemikQantourisc:  tell him you've found the pr0n, and there's no need to use passwords anylonger03:59
deFrysk;p03:59
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Qantourisckemik: LOL04:00
QantouriscdeFrysk: its a lock on the harddrive :p not really hackable :p04:00
n00bsterhelow, my first time on irc, how can i get the full channel list?04:00
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kemikn00bster:  /list04:00
deFryskQantourisc, would you also please check is the onboard sound is enables an p&p is off in the bios (making sure)04:00
n00bsterwher do i type this?04:01
QantouriscdeFrysk: should be :D04:01
_jasonn00bster:  anywhere04:01
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deFryskQantourisc, should yes , knowing is better04:01
n00bsterok, tank you04:01
_jasonn00bster:  it will show up in the first window you have "Ubuntu Servers"04:01
QantouriscdeFrysk: i can seethat wit hlspci04:01
n00bsterok, ty. :)04:02
deFryskQantourisc, ok04:02
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dpro\ahh, nice got ubuntu running nice and sweet, but howcome when i try installing w32codecs it says that the package doesnt exist? i have added more sources04:02
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stjepanhello04:03
stjepanwhere is ubuntu's kernel config?04:03
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n00bsterwell, a sidebar hase opend, but there is no content in ti, what shuld i do?04:03
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ccookestjepan: /boot/config-kernelname04:03
QantouriscdeFrysk: its disabled oright, or it's the unknown device04:04
stjepanccooke: tnx04:04
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QantouriscdeFrysk: but i want to focus on the va04:04
ccookefor instance, my running kernel (from breezy) has its config in /boot/config-2.6.12-9-68604:04
n00bsterabiut channels:  a sidebar hase opend, but there is no content in ti, what shuld i do?04:05
QantouriscdeFrysk: vesa, it's not a perfect solution :D04:05
n00bsterabout*04:05
deFryskQantourisc, what vid-card ?04:05
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QantouriscdeFrysk: no matter it works now :p new kernel did the trick :D04:06
deFrysk:D04:06
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deFryskQantourisc, breezy rules04:06
deFrysk;p04:06
flankkAnyone know of a password manager for Gnome, something like kwallet?04:06
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QantouriscdeFrysk: hehe ;D04:07
mahangu`afkccooke, it's a thinkpad r50e04:07
blekoshi ppl :)04:07
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JustinHHthe image on tvtime is black&white. there is also no soun :( (the sound cable is from the tv-tuner is conected to the pc over aux)04:07
flankk^^04:07
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deFryskQantourisc, anything k i dont like exept kernel and a few other things of course04:07
ccookemahangu`afk: okay. Give me a moment, I'll see if I Can find the spec.04:07
ThaTsThEWayhello @ all04:08
blekoshi04:08
flankkdeFrysk, how about a gtk+ version, rather than just bashing K*..04:08
ThaTsThEWayi'm new here04:08
catwe all are04:08
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ccookemahangu`afk: ah, right. Intel graphics. I've never had one of those, so I can't really help you04:08
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blekos well, I want to start firestarter during boot, I have added the command line of firestarter to add programs, unfortunatelly, I get the message that i do not have enough privilleges.04:09
mgh0^has anyone had any sucees installing KDE on breezy?04:09
deFryskflankk, sorry was just kidding around04:09
ccookemahangu`afk: Try google.04:09
Riddellmgh0^: yes04:09
blekosanyone knows how can i bypass that?04:09
blekosyes04:09
blekosme04:09
logan001101who04:09
blekosi'ge gote both KDE & GNOME04:09
mgh0^Riddell, any problems?04:09
Riddellmgh0^: none, it's a work of perfection04:09
mgh0^you too blekos ?04:09
blekosnot really04:09
QantouriscdeFrysk: resolution is rong i'm afraid04:09
blekosalmost04:10
mgh0^marvellous, thanks04:10
blekosthe main application is ok04:10
n00bsteri cant fing the ubuntu bugzilla channel, can you help me & type it's full name?04:10
blekosthe only thing doestn't work is the combo for changing languages...04:10
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blekoshad the same with mandriva...04:10
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blekospart from no probs04:10
deFryskQantourisc, if everything is ok exept resolution , run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:10
blekossuggest u install it, that way u can use applications from both gnome & kde04:11
deFryskQantourisc, run the defaults but set the defaults for resolution when you get there04:11
flankkdeFrysk, 'I hate' proceeded by 'kde' or 'gnome' is simply flamebait.  I'm looking for a stable project that does the same, or similar, to kwallet in Gnome.  Or at least a project that has bundled some scripts to manage a password database.04:11
blekoswhichever suits u best :)04:11
deFryskset = schange04:11
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deFryskflankk, I am not going into this any further04:11
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n00bsteri cant fing the ubuntu bugzilla channel, can you help me & type it's full name?04:12
helpmehy04:12
blekosanyone had prob with the update manager?04:12
n00bsterfind*04:12
flankkdeFrysk, you didn't go into anything..04:12
helpmethe image on tvtime is black&white. there is also no soun :( (the sound cable is from the tv-tuner is conected to the pc over aux)04:12
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hou5toncan someone tell me what's the easiest way to know what to type in a command line to open an application?04:14
helpmehello04:14
helpme!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!04:14
ubotuhelpme: What?04:14
helpmethe image on tvtime is black&white. there is also no soun :( (the sound cable is from the tv-tuner is conected to the pc over aux)04:14
hou5tonooffice used to open open office, but doesn't with the newest version?04:14
^majik^what's the package name in synaptic again, that installs I think, most of the development stuff for gcc?04:15
QantouriscdeFrysk: he that did the trick04:15
QantouriscdeFrysk: cool :D04:15
flankkhelpme, I'd refer you to Google, but you probably need to learn English first.04:15
deFryskQantourisc, good :)04:15
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bob832hou5ton:  try ooffice204:16
jakehi04:16
chrissturmhow can i make ubuntu enable dma on my dvd rom by default?04:16
jakeIs this ubuntu support irc?04:16
bzimagechrissturm, hdparm04:16
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chrissturmbzimage, i know how to set it with hdparm#04:16
bzimagejake, yes04:16
chrissturmbut i think theres an hdparm config file where i can persist that change04:16
jakeI have a question, not a problem really, but I installed ubuntu linux on 2 different machines, other is laptop and another is a desktop computer.04:17
hou5tonbob832:  thanks, that did it ... but I was also wondering if there was a way to locate that info, and also to change it.04:17
jakeI wonder why these installations seem different.04:17
bzimagejake, define seems04:17
jakeI mean, when I log in @ gdm and my desktop opens, my laptop has applet for ximian and applet describing network use.04:18
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jakeOfcourse there's also power applet in my laptop, that's obvious..04:18
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jakeThis isn't a problem, but I just wonder why my desktop doesn't have ximian or network activity applets..04:19
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bzimagejake, i'm not sure on that one04:19
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bzimagei guess it's because it detected the "laptop" part04:19
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bob832hou5ton:  check the /usr/bin folder04:20
jakeI have ximian icons in the middle of firefox and help..04:20
egoplastiekhi04:20
chrissturmjake, what do you mean by "ximian applet"?04:20
egoplastiekHELP! :)04:20
ccookechrissturm: he means evolution04:20
bzimage!tell egoplastiek about ask04:20
jakechrissturm, uuups.. I meant evolution :)04:20
bob832hou5ton:  you migh have to be root to rename the files04:20
egoplastieki installed and de-installed metacity04:20
egoplastiekand now the top of all windows are gone04:21
egoplastiekso i can't move them anymore04:21
egoplastiekalt-tab also doesn't work anymore04:21
jakeokay. Well, that didn't clear out but it really doesn't matter that much :)04:21
hou5tonbob832:  got it ... thanks04:21
egoplastiekflank, is that specific enough?04:21
bob832hou5ton:  you're welcome, glad to help04:21
chrissturmjake: maybe ubuntu selected other defaults for the laptop. but you can still install any program you want, and make the two desktops identical04:22
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egoplastiekwhen i log in with x, only the xterm appears.04:22
egoplastieki can start the gnome-panel manually04:22
egoplastiekbut how can i get it back to what it was?04:22
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chrissturmegoplastiek, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop04:23
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mgh0^:D installed and working KDE04:23
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egoplastiekwell, bzimag04:24
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deFryskbzimage, u just gave the anser yourself04:24
egoplastieki installed metacity for fun04:24
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egoplastiekand i wanted to uninstall it04:24
bzimagedeFrysk, how?04:24
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egoplastiekbecause i wanted my original gnome back04:24
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deFryskbzimage, they dont know where its for04:24
egoplastiekwithout the expose-like stuff04:24
deFryskthats why they remove it04:25
phanterhello. I am rteying to mount an external HDD. standard it mounts it that only the root can write files to it. How can I make it to be writable for all users04:25
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chrissturmegoplastiek, what exactly did you install?04:25
bzimagedeFrysk, well.. i allways learned to get my hand off things i don't know04:25
bzimage*ask then do*04:25
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egoplastiekchrissturm, metacity04:25
egoplastiekfor the expose effect04:25
kemikbzimage:  naah. do, then ask04:25
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kemikbzimage:  trial and error04:25
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deFryskbzimage, windowsusers are "different"04:25
egoplastieki'll brb chrissturm04:25
egoplastieki'm a windows user :s04:26
bzimagedeFrysk, i guess so04:26
bzimage:)04:26
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thesaltydogin a livecd, when the screensaver asks for a password... which is the password?04:26
bzimagekemik, not on a "production" desktop/workstation/server04:27
bzimage;)04:27
ompaulenter and see if that be it04:27
deFryskthesaltydog, <enter>04:27
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egoplastiekit worked. thanks to whoever gave me the answer04:27
thesaltydogtry04:27
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bzimage:D04:27
QantouriscdeFrysk: its an i810 audio controller04:28
phanterhow do i mount a harddisk that users can mount it and hav read-write acces?04:28
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deFryskQantourisc, what module does that need ?04:28
thesaltydogbzimage, not so dumb...04:28
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QantouriscdeFrysk: no clue i"ll be trying to find out now04:28
thesaltydoganyway it doesn't unlock either with enter04:29
bzimagelol04:29
kemikbzimage:  ooh, no ofcourse not.. only on "play-computers" :)04:29
bzimage:P04:29
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bzimageplaytendo...04:29
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QantouriscdeFrysk: hmm new kernel installed04:29
kemikphanter:  depends on the FS... (ntfs cant be written to)04:29
QantouriscdeFrysk: reboot :po04:29
deFryskk04:29
kemik(well, not easily anyway)04:30
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bzimagekemik, well actually it can be written to...04:30
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bzimagebut not wise to do04:30
QantouriscdeFrysk: but i'm first going to check ofr any other updtes :D04:30
kemikbzimage:  i know04:30
ubuntuu all suck!04:30
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kemikbut the easy-newbie answer is just "no it cant" :)04:30
bzimagekemik, true04:30
bzimage:)04:30
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zanderhi; does ubuntu ship with /etc/lsb-release by default?04:30
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xwingshi guyes04:31
xwingsi got a problem with breezy04:31
bzimagezander, ?04:31
phanterkemik, it is a ext3 FS04:31
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xwingsis tehre a stack guard thingy in breezy ?04:31
bzimagephanter, then it's simple enough..04:32
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bzimageadd a line into your /etc/fstab for it04:32
deFryskQantourisc, http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Intel&card=Soundtrack+Audio+DSP+24.&chip=440MX%2C+i810%2C+i810%2C+i810E%2C+i820%2C+i820&module=intel8x004:32
bzimageor mount it manually..04:32
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phanterbzimage, i have a line in my fstab: /dev/sda1 /media/backup ext3 rw,users 0 004:33
zanderbzimage: i need a reliable way to tell debian gnu/linux and ubuntu apart; /etc/lsb-release allows this, but isn't necessarily installed on debian gnu/linux (it's part of the 'lsb-release' package); if the file was guaranteed (or at least higly likely) to be present on ubunto systems by default, then that would help04:33
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phanterbzimage, but that does not give me the r/w access04:33
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QantouriscdeFrysk: added some "standard" extra packages: 140 mb :p04:34
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deFryskQantourisc, you werent finished yet ?04:35
QantouriscdeFrysk: some spellings checkers and wine :p04:35
JustinHHwhat packages must i install in order to access ntfs and fat32 partitions04:35
QantouriscdeFrysk: as in adding extra packages i.e. blender04:35
bzimageJustinHH, none04:35
deFryskQantourisc, ah :)04:35
JustinHHnone?04:36
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deFryskQantourisc, got the alsa link ?04:36
bzimagenone04:36
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bzimageonly the right configuration / command04:36
bzimage:)04:36
CarlaI'm new to ubuntu and need help?04:36
JustinHHohhh04:36
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bzimage!tell carla about ask04:36
deFryskCarla, ask away :)04:36
JustinHHsorry04:36
famihi04:36
famiCannot find glib development libraries, aborting. (Install libglib-dev?)04:36
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joel__I keep trying to install real player and i always get this message : E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)04:37
joel__E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it04:37
Carlamy wlan is active but firefox times out finding google04:37
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JustinHHi cant access the partitions mecause they are read and write protected04:37
deFryskjoel__, shut down synaptic and try again04:37
JustinHHhow can i cancel that04:37
bzimagejoel__, close synaptic04:37
famioff04:37
JustinHHsmth with -rw ?04:37
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joel__bzimage__, I did but i got this now Package realplayer is not available, but is referred to by another package.04:38
joel__This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or04:38
joel__is only available from another source04:38
joel__E: Package realplayer has no installation candidate04:38
bzimageJustinHH, ?04:38
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bzimage!tell joel__ about repos04:38
bzimagedid you do this?04:38
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JustinHHbzimage: in /dev/ hda3 apears with an red x04:38
CarlaI don't want to be rude so what is the format to ask a question04:39
dabaRhe needs multiverse.04:39
JustinHHit can be accessed only by root04:39
joel__bzimage: I have repositories all checked04:39
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JustinHHand on ubuntu there is no grafical interface for root04:39
Pyt3rhi04:39
Pyt3rhy04:39
bzimageJustinHH, right.. it's disabled by default04:39
JustinHHyes04:40
blekosif i remove an application, are all relavant packages removed?04:40
JustinHHso tell me what i shoul do to enable root or to be ablea to access the ntfs an fat32 partition04:40
bzimageeven root login is impossible by default: password isn't given04:40
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ccookeJustinHH: Breezy or Hoary?04:40
joel__why cant I install realplayer if i have all repos checked???04:40
bzimagejoel__, it's in the repos04:41
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bzimagesomewhere...04:41
blekoslibs etc04:41
blekos?04:41
radoneHi folks - I am trying to run wu-ftp server - and I need to share data under username "kn" and password "kn" - It is not problem to login to my user account but it is unable to login in account "kn"04:41
dabaRjoel__: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl04:41
radonecould anyone help?04:41
joel__dabaR: I did not get what you just said.04:41
JustinHHccooke, : what's  <<eezy or Hoary?>>?04:41
dabaRradone: did you create a kn user name?04:41
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bzimagewu-ftpd *eek*04:42
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CarlaWhy would firefox time out if my wlan is active?04:42
CarlaCan anyone help me?04:42
radonedabaR: yes, directory /home/kn too04:42
ccookeJustinHH: what version of Ubuntu are you running?04:42
dabaRjoel__: cat /etc/apt/sources.list in a terminal. then paste the output to that web site I told you above.04:42
dereks_if i don't have any pata hard drives, can i install to a sata, or do i need to install to pata?04:42
joel__dabar: ok04:42
JustinHH5.0404:42
bzimageCarla, do you mean.. not fetching pages?04:42
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dabaRradone: well, a password is impossible to be kn, since it has to be like, 6 chars, or something, there is a security constraint.04:42
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Carlabzimage:  I type in www.google.com and it times out trying to load04:42
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ccookeJustinHH: Okay. you'll need to edit /etc/fstab. Try: sudo gedit /etc/fstab04:43
Carlabzimage:  some pages load fine04:43
dabaRCarla: open a terminal, and type in ping www.google.com04:43
bzimagehmm...04:43
bigfoot1how do i get to run command "qmake"? I get error message: bash: qmake: command not found04:43
CarlaI can ping just fine04:43
dabaRyou can ping the site you can not access?04:43
Carlayes04:43
ccookeJustinHH: do you know what the partition names are?04:43
dabaRdid you clear your cache in the browser?04:43
bzimagebigfoot1, why you need that?04:43
Carlalet me try04:43
bigfoot1bzimage, for zoto uploadr.04:44
Ashenyo... I wanna use an indexed file system as my shared partition between win and ubuntu instead of vfat...04:44
dabaRI wont let you, but, ya.04:44
kemikccooke:  "sudo fdisk -l"04:44
bigfoot1bzimage, to install a program04:44
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dereks_anyone have any luck installing to a sata drive/04:44
Ashenhow well do things run of ext in windows?04:44
JustinHHccooke, :yes04:44
punkrockmcducki upgraded ubuntu, and now there are two kernels and no windows.04:44
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bigfoot1i hope i don't get punkrockmcduck's problem when I upgrade to breezy04:44
othernoobpunkrockmcduck: and that's bad?04:44
Ashen(for people who have used ext2fsd)04:44
ccookekemik: I'm not asking you ;-)04:44
bigfoot1i'm scared now04:44
ccookeJustinHH: Okay. Have you ever edited fstab before?04:44
Carlacleared; typed in url again and it says that it is connecting04:45
deFryskpunkrockmcduck, exellent upgrade :D04:45
bigfoot1anybody with experience with qmake? I need it.04:45
Qantouriscdkpg-configure alsa ?04:45
JustinHHbut it apears just the swap ext3 floppy and cdrom04:45
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Qantouriscdoes that exict ?04:45
punkrockmcduckyeah, thanks.04:45
JustinHHno04:45
Versed2I have one stupid question, can one switch from kde to gnome without shutting down?04:45
bzimagepunkrockmcduck, you need to add an entry for grub.. (windows)04:45
dabaRjoel__: open a terminal, and sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list then, paste in there, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 ibnstead of qwhat you ahve. then reload in synaptic, and you will have realplayer04:45
JustinHH:(04:45
Carlastill connnecting04:45
ccookeQantourisc: dpkg-reconfigure.04:45
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ccookeJustinHH: that's okay04:45
finleydoes nfs has an irc channel?04:45
deFryskQantourisc, honestly never has this soundissue so I honestly am not sure04:45
Ashenalso, does any utility exist to convert a filesystem from vfat to ext?04:45
ccookeJustinHH: You'll need to add one line for each parition you want to mount04:45
punkrockmcducki know that much04:45
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bigfoot1Versed, Bad news: stupid questions are not allowed. Good news: your question is.04:45
bzimageAshen, not that i know of04:45
deFryskQantourisc, you have to ask someon else now :)04:45
ccookeJustinHH: what were the partitions ?04:46
punkrockmcduckbut I don't know how to add a new entry for grub, so what should I read?04:46
JustinHHi i think i got it04:46
dabaRCarla: do you have a firewall on the computer?04:46
Ashenhrmmm... damn04:46
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Versed2And yes I have both desktops installed.04:46
JustinHHwait04:46
CarladabaR: there is one in the modem04:46
bzimageAshen, i guess formatting is the only way04:46
dabaRCarla: off course, how about the computer?04:46
bzimage(to get ext fs)04:46
Carlasorry04:46
dabaRno need.04:46
Carlanot unless ubuntu has something set that I don't know04:46
ron_where do i go to make copy of a cd in warty 4.10?04:47
dabaRwell, you will need to look into that. I am overdue for school.04:47
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Ashenbzimage: looks like I'll need another hdd to backup onto04:47
Ashen:)04:47
dabaRSomething about listing the rules iptables has set up, carla.04:47
bzimageAshen, yes04:47
JustinHHi actualy don`t know the partitions exactly. there are 4 or 5. i know that one of them is a fat32 and the other is ntfs. but i don't know witch one04:47
Ashenhas anyone used Ext2fsd?04:47
Carlacan I just make changes to the iptables in a terminal?04:48
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joel__dabaR: real player is supposed to be under multimedia, right? If so, then I dont have it04:48
bzimageron_, what exactly do you mean?04:48
JustinHHcan i see it from linux without loging in to windows?04:48
kemikJustinHH:  "sudo fdsik -l"04:48
finleyi have one machine with IPs _only_ in /etc/exports, but those get translated to hostnames in /var/lib/nfs/etab.  Why?  How do I prevent it?04:48
kemik*fdisk04:48
ron_i just installed 4.10 and i need to burn a cd04:48
Qantouriscwhere are my sound modules ?04:48
kemikron_:  4.10 !? warty?04:48
ccookeJustinHH: the fdisk command kemik told you will let you know what each partition is04:48
ron_yes04:48
bzimageron_, install a buring app04:49
Qantourisc /lib/modules/$uname/kernel/ and then ?04:49
bzimageron_, better install 5.04 or 5.10 preview04:49
ron_ok thanks i do thaty04:49
bzimage4.10 is old04:49
ron_yes  true04:49
JustinHHsudo: fdsik: command not found04:49
bzimage1 one04:49
ron_thanks bzi04:49
ccookeJustinHH: sudo fdisk -l04:50
kemikJustinHH:  fdisk04:50
ccookeJustinHH: we'll need the Device column04:50
bzimageron.. and then install a burning app (like k3b or something.. via synaptic)04:50
ron_where do i get burn application04:50
ccookeJustinHH: For instance, here's the windows XP entry from mine:04:50
ccookeJustinHH: /dev/sda2   *         913        4560    29302560    7  HPFS/NTFS04:50
Versed2OK, I will re-phrase, Can I switch from KDE to Gnome and vice versa without shutting down and restarting ?04:50
JustinHHit works now04:50
ccookeJustinHH: The bit we'd need is '/dev/sda2'04:51
joel__dammit04:51
ccookeJustinHH: What are the device names, then?04:51
kemikccooke:  not sure what youre doing exactly.. but the winmac_fstab will mount all partitons automagicalla04:51
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kemik!ntfs04:51
ubotuntfs is probably the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.04:51
bzimageccooke, ehm.. where are you mounting sda2 too?04:51
bzimageto04:51
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bzimageshouldn't you use a normal mountpoint04:51
JustinHHwell one of them is /dev/hda1   *           1        1020     8193118+   7  HPFS/NTFS04:51
ccookebzimage: that was the output of fdisk.04:52
bzimagesrro... fdisk..04:52
joel__fucking piece of shit04:52
Ashenis there a reiser filesystem driver for windows?04:52
bzimageccooke, so i read...04:52
bzimage:P04:52
ccookeJustinHH: Okay, let's do that.04:52
QantouriscdeFrysk: found a relative link : http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1312.html :D04:52
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kemikAshen:  ask google ... =)04:52
ccookeJustinHH: Where would you like to mount it? Somewhere under /media is probably a good idea04:52
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ccookeJustinHH: /media/Windows ?04:52
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JustinHHok04:52
JustinHHyes04:52
Ashenkemik: google wast very helpful :p04:52
ccookeJustinHH: okay, then04:52
bzimageAshen, google is my best friend..04:52
Ashen*wasn't04:53
ccookeJustinHH: here's what you do:04:53
ccookeJustinHH: sudo mkdir -p /media/Windows04:53
ccookeJustinHH: sudo gedit /etc/fstab04:53
nix101where is the default location for grub?04:53
ccookeJustinHH: At the end of the file, add this line:04:53
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bzimagenix101, the mbr?04:53
bzimage:P04:53
highvoltagegksudo gedit /etc/fstab might work better?04:53
Ashendamnit... how come windows has no good filesystems! *Cries*04:53
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highvoltageAshen: they are stuck in the 80's04:53
ccookeJustinHH: /dev/hda1     /media/Windows    ntfs    defaults    0 004:53
ccookeJustinHH: Got that?04:54
JustinHHyes04:54
JustinHHi got it04:54
bzimagemount -a04:54
JustinHHbut can you tell me what 0 0 at the end means?04:54
nix101im replacing ubuntu with slackware which uses lilo and i just wanna make sure i wont have problems04:54
ccookeJustinHH: it's to do with backups. Not really used these days.04:54
bzimagenix101, i use lilo on ubuntu04:54
bzimageno probs04:54
ccookeJustinHH: once you're done, double and triple check your fstab is correct04:54
bzimage:)04:54
JustinHHccooke ?04:54
blekosy r replacing ubuntu?04:55
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JustinHHok04:55
Asheny would you want to replace ubuntu?04:55
Asheny would anyone want to replace ubuntu?04:55
Ashen^_^04:55
kemikAshen:  then i thin there is no way to mount reiserFS in windos.. check out the official resierFS homepage04:55
nix101i want to try them all lol04:55
CentrixHi all04:55
ccookeJustinHH: the 0 0 tells the system when to back up that partition, and how. It's not actually used by any software now, though.04:55
blekoslol04:55
JustinHHccooke than saving and.... then must i type something for refreshing?04:55
ccookeJustinHH: mount -av04:55
blekosbcarefull what r u wishing to find04:55
JustinHHok04:55
ccookeJustinHH: (mount, all, and tell you what it does)04:55
CentrixWho is good at pcmcia wlan cards ? :)04:55
JustinHHok04:55
ccookeJustinHH: it should say it's mounted something?04:56
bzimagenix101, well.. if you run lilo, the grub mbr will be overwritten by lilo04:56
CentrixI have some problems with it...04:56
QantouriscCentrix: no-one such a person does not exict :D04:56
bzimage(and it works also the other way arround)04:56
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JustinHHlet's see if it really works. :P04:56
butcherbirdnix101, its slackware...there will likely be "problems" =)04:56
ccookeJustinHH: :-)04:56
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nix101do i install lilo in superblock or mbr?04:56
Centrixhehe... sure thing Qantourisc04:56
radonedabaR: thanks for help. Now it my ftp connection work.04:56
bzimagenix101, well.. i use mbt04:56
CentrixI cant get it working...04:56
bzimageerr04:56
bzimagembt04:56
bzimagedamn04:56
bzimagembr04:56
Ashenhrmmm... you know what I feel like doing? installing the ext3 windows filesystem module into the windows installer, then installing windows onto a ext partition... I wonder if it'd work :p04:56
JustinHHccooke, ;)04:56
kemikAshen:  probably not :)04:57
Ashen:p04:57
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radoneIs it possible to deny user to log in via SHELL but keep possibility for login via FTP ?04:57
ccookeAshen: ... try it! sounds evil and fun.04:57
radoneis it even possible04:57
CentrixI installed badger and i can see the wlan card but cant configure my network with it04:57
bzimageAshen, lol04:57
blekoscan i have different wallpapers in gnome like in kde?04:57
blekosdifferent wallpaper for each desktop04:58
bzimageradone, yes sure you can04:58
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othernoobblekos: no, wallpapers are only for good windowing systems..04:58
JustinHHccooke, : for fat32 i will type just fat32?04:58
Centrixonly thing that is possible to configure is my modem ,,,04:58
bob2Centrix: "can see the wlan card" = ?04:58
JustinHHor Fat3204:58
ccookeJustinHH: vfat04:58
JustinHHdoes it matter?04:58
blekoslol04:58
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ccookeJustinHH: yes.04:58
JustinHHok04:58
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blekosand gnome isnt??04:58
ccookeJustinHH: did the ntfs one work?04:58
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radonebzimage: Could you please point me how? :)04:59
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JustinHHccooke,  on /dev/hda2 and 3 it apeares W95 FAT32 (LBA)05:00
JustinHH and W95 Ext'd (LBA)05:00
blekosdoes anybody know how i can add a program to startup which requires root previl. to start?05:01
JustinHHwhat dows lba mean?05:01
ccookeJustinHH: LBA is a method of accessing large disks.05:01
JustinHHit is no partioion made on the disk, i think05:01
ccookeJustinHH: doesn't matter now.05:01
bluesceadablekos: if it's not graphical use init scriptw05:01
bluesceadascripts..05:01
blekosi'm talking about firestarter05:01
ccookeJustinHH: You want the W95 FAT32 parititon (I presume /dev/hda2)05:01
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Qantouriscokies05:02
Qantouriscthis i odd :p05:02
d2dchatin the synaptic package manager firefox is there but it has no version number or description. How do i fix this??05:02
Qantourisci modprobeded my pci driver05:02
ccookeJustinHH: /dev/hda3 is the extended partition, which just contains all the partitions with numbers greater than 4. It can't be mounted itself.05:02
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Qantouriscbut doesn't work05:02
^majik^what's the package name in synaptic again, that installs I think, most of the development stuff for gcc?05:02
ccooked2dchat: the actual package for firefox is 'mozilla-firefox'05:03
kemik^majik^:  build-essential05:03
radonePlease, could  anyone help me how to disallow to login via SHELL, but keep ability to login via FTP ?05:03
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kemikradone:  edit your ssh.conf05:03
d2dchatccooke, thank you:)05:03
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ccookeradone: ftp or sftp?05:03
bluekeywhats the easiest way to edit the application menu for another user(to limit what users can access)05:03
HaNazirhow do i change the root password?05:03
kemikradone:  /etc/ssh/ssh_config05:04
ccookeHaNazir: sudo passwd05:04
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JustinHHccooke, on mount -av appeared an error05:04
JustinHH(gedit:22237): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:05:04
HaNazirccooke, thanx05:04
JustinHHAuthentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.05:04
bob2bluekey: that doesn't stop them accessing anything at all05:04
d2dchatwhat does this mean:05:04
bob2HaNazir: there is no root password to begin with05:04
ccookeJustinHH: that looks like a GUI error.05:04
radoneccooke: wu-ftp - so I guess ftp05:04
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ccookeJustinHH: which *should* be nothing to do with mounting.05:04
JustinHHno05:04
ccookeradone: in that case, they don't need a shell to start it.05:04
JustinHHthis appeared05:05
JustinHHbefore05:05
JustinHHwhen i opend that file to edit05:05
ccookeradone: sudo gedit /etc/passwd, and set their shell to /bin/false05:05
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bluekeybob2 well im setting up a computer for people that drop in to use for web browsing and openoffice so i dont want anything else on the menu. none of these people would even know where to start apps if they went looking in nautilus05:05
ccookethe shell is the *last* item05:05
bob2bluekey: then smeg lets you edit it05:05
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mgh0^how easy it is to install nvidia graphics card drivers on breezy?05:05
bluekeybut does smeg edit it for all users for for the user that runs it?05:05
radoneccooke: thanks05:06
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^majik^kemik: cool, thanks05:07
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bob2mgh0^: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto05:08
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Qantouriscarg these drivers don't reconnise the sound card05:08
Qantouriscbtw how is wpa doing ?05:08
bluekeybob2: but does smeg edit the menu for all users or the user running it?05:08
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Skidwhats your (in general) favourite terminal ?05:08
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Skidgnome-terminal annoys me with its partial app-based titles05:08
zone17Hi, how do I set cron to run every second hour? "* /2 * * * " was my idea, but doesn't seem to work.05:08
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radoneccooke: Unfortunately after changing /bin/bash ---- to -->  /bin/false - I am not able to log in :(05:09
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Skidradone: that's because your user's shell will be set to /bin/bash05:09
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bob2Skid: xterm05:09
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Skidya, I generally use xterm, but was wonering what other people liked :)05:09
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joshghowdy, all.05:09
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Skidcan't stand eterms crap fonts, but I like the trans options05:10
JustinHHccooke,  you do not have the permission necessary to view the contents of "windows" (the folder we made)05:10
joshganybody experienced in gstreamer-fu and alsa-fu?05:10
Strogaterm, rxvt05:10
amorphdoes anyone could help me with a sound-problem ? when i play something with xmms (alsa hw:0,4) it sounds perfect. but when i use another player the playback is interrupted every few seconds ...05:10
ionshave todays X and Gnome updates broken Breezy or are they safe to install?05:10
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Skidhm, aterm.. not used that before05:10
radoneSkid: well, exists any way how to disallow to login via SHELL, but keep ability to login via FTP ?05:10
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Skidradone: sure05:11
Skiduse sshd_config05:11
SkidDenyUsers root user1 user205:11
radoneSkid: thanks, will try05:11
Skidthen /etc/init.d/sshd restart05:11
Skidradone: /etc/ssh/sshd_config is the file05:11
ccookeJustinHH: Okay.05:11
JustinHHccooke,  you do not have the permission necessary to view the contents of "windows" (the folder we made) it is read and write protected05:11
ccookeJustinHH: we need to give you permission there. That's easy enough05:11
ccookeJustinHH: just give me a minute.05:11
JustinHHok05:11
JustinHHi can wait05:11
ccookeJustinHH: Okay, got it.05:12
Skidooh, aterm looks nice05:12
ccookeJustinHH: sudo gedit /etc/fstab05:12
ccookeJustinHH: when you have it, locate the line that mounts /media/Windows05:12
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StrogSkid: It's fairly light and has a lot of good options05:12
ccookeJustinHH: and change 'defaults' to 'uid=yourusername'05:12
StrogThere's tabbed versions of it too05:12
ccookeJustinHH: okay?05:12
=== Skid installs
Skidyeah that's what I was looking at05:12
JustinHHyeap05:13
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ccookeJustinHH: then, type:05:13
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ccookeJustinHH: sudo umount /media/Windows05:13
Skidnot used rxvt either05:13
ccookeJustinHH: sudo mount -av05:13
Skidbut I can't really see any screenies ;p05:13
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ccookeThen again... a terminal that interected with screen to automatically show tabs for it on request... *that* would be useful05:14
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Skidscreen(1) ?05:14
Skidyou mean split screens, as per earlier?05:14
JustinHHog my good05:14
ccookeJustinHH: ?05:15
JustinHHthe files of all partitions are displayed in the same folder05:15
JustinHHi can manage it05:15
JustinHHthank you anyway05:15
JustinHH;)05:15
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JustinHHi ahve learned a few commands05:16
JustinHHtoday05:16
JustinHH:D05:16
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fredforfaenwhat backports repos am i supposed to use with breezy?05:16
JustinHHccooke,  i have an other problem to configure05:16
deFryskfredforfaen, backports of bleeding edge ?05:17
deFryskfredforfaen, how would you do that ?05:17
fredforfaennah dont have to be that , i have this ; deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main restricted universe multiverse , is there a nother for breezy?05:17
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deFryskfredforfaen, nope05:18
fredforfaenjust use the same?05:18
deFryskfredforfaen, dony use it at all05:18
fredforfaenwhat about software and stuff?05:19
deFryskfredforfaen, check the wiki05:19
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bob2fredforfaen: get rid of it05:19
bob2and use some common sense05:19
wrabbit01Thought I'd just drop in and express my love for this OS.05:19
bob2breezy isn't released yet05:19
nalioth_zZzfredforfaen: give breezy a chance to be completed before you ask the devs to start work on backports from dapper drake05:19
bob2ergo, no backports05:19
wrabbit01I love ubuntu.  Who's with me?05:19
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fredforfaenwhat wiki ...point me in the right direction at least05:19
bob2fredforfaen: just get rid of any backport lines you might have in your sources.list05:20
fredforfaenbob2 ok.....what repos handles like xqf , azureus and so on then?05:20
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naliothfredforfaen: dont you have those already?05:21
fredforfaensure...im thinking about updates when the time comes05:22
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fredforfaen!repos05:22
uboturepos is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96905:22
bob2fredforfaen: xqf is in ubuntu05:22
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fredforfaenin the official repos bob2?05:23
bob2indeed05:23
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hramrach_Hello05:23
fredforfaenbob2 cool , will java and such be there to?05:24
bob2fredforfaen: http://packages.ubuntu.com/05:24
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hramrach_Anybody got any idea how to print on a dot matrix printer in any sane resolution?05:24
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hramrach_60dpi is definitely not readable05:24
hramrach_And I beleive the lq100+ is 24pin so it should be able to do better05:25
cyphaselol, i can't believe that after the problems caused backports is still making mozilla-firefox a dummy package for firefox05:25
fredforfaeni changet the security updates to breezy to , is that ok?05:25
fredforfaenthe wiki only says one line05:25
naliothcafuego1: are you active and here?05:26
hramrach_But setting the resolution in gnome-cups-manager has no effect on output05:26
deFryskcyphase, backports is evil05:26
fredforfaeni had to figure ut out by my self cus i wanna use norwegain repos05:26
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_pirhelo, How do I set to work with proxy, while working in terminal, I want do work/update in aptitue and dselect, Thanks.05:26
ccookedeFrysk: not evil. Just not worth risking.05:26
finleyi have one machine with IPs _only_ in /etc/exports, but those get translated to hostnames in /var/lib/nfs/etab.  Why?  How do I prevent it?05:26
deFryskccooke, whene people come complaining here i'd say its evil05:26
fredforfaenanyone?05:27
hramrach_There used to be a gs rastering driver for these printers but I do not know the incantation to use it05:27
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_pirhelo, How do I set to work with proxy, while working in terminal, I want do work/update in aptitue and dselect, Thanks.05:27
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barosl05:27
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capshi05:28
deFryskbarosl, utf8 showcase ?05:28
fredforfaencan someone tell me if my sources.list is okay?05:28
capsHow can I find the gnome-thumbnailer for nautilus05:28
caps?05:28
naliothfredforfaen: /msg ubotu sources05:28
barosldeFrysk, sorry, i made a mistake when i use /amsg05:28
fredforfaennalioth im confused , tell me what to do....05:29
fredforfaenim osrry05:29
fredforfaensorry*05:29
deFryskbarosl, ah :)05:29
naliothfredforfaen: msg ubotu and say "sources". he will send you a sources.list URL to compare yours with05:30
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fredforfaenok thanx05:30
capsin fact, nautilus shows thumbnails for images, but not for video files....05:30
deFryskcaps, yes it does05:30
fredforfaenubotu wont answer :(05:30
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, fredforfaen05:30
capsI have totem-xine installed, and totem plays video nicely05:30
deFrysk!tell fredforfaen about sources05:31
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deFryskfredforfaen, look again ;)05:31
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JustinHHwich is the command do delete an empty directory from the terminal?05:32
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naliothJustinHH: rmdir05:32
JustinHHrdir?05:32
_pirany one knows How to set proxy for aptitude and dselect?05:32
JustinHHok05:32
JustinHHthx05:32
fredforfaendeFrysk thanx , one more thingy , i switched to the breezy security updates to , is that ok?05:32
valzaqcan anyone tell me the new repositories for breezy?05:32
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rikvaHi, can I play an ogg file from the cli in a new ubuntu installation?05:32
naliothfredforfaen: do you run breezy?05:33
fredforfaenim gonna update to breezy now nalioth :)05:33
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capsi ok05:33
fredforfaeni have just switched the repos05:33
capsi solved my problem05:33
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valzaqi want to do the update too but i dunno the new sources05:33
bodisanhello, I just installed azureus, but it sais that port 6881 is blocked. How can I leave it open? I'm using Breezy05:33
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bennihallo05:33
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capsjsut needed to remove the fail/ dir from ~/.thumbnails/05:34
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naliothvalzaq: same sources as before. read the /topic here05:34
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hutgyrranybody burn a dvd recently here. how long did it take. It seems to take about 45mins here to burn about 3.5gb . Is this correct05:34
bennikan mir wer helfen ich habe ein problem ich wil windows emulieren und haben keinen plan wie ich das machen mus05:34
bodisanis there any firewall by default in ubuntu?05:35
fredforfaennalioth im relly wondering cus im at the Y/n upgrade or not stage...is it noremal that apt wants to delete 40 pkg?05:35
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butcherbirdbodisan, no05:35
bodisanthen why are all the ports blocked?05:35
butcherbirdbodisan, using a router?05:35
bodisanyes05:35
kemikbodisan:  is there a firewall in the routeR?05:35
valzaqthanks nalioth05:36
cyphasekemik, it doesn't need a firewall05:36
bob2bodisan: er, that is almost certainly unrelated to ubuntu05:36
cyphasethe router by itself will do it05:36
bodisanyes, it is, but linux should use uPnP to open ports05:36
kemikbodisan:  and besides, no services are listening by default in ubuntu05:36
bob2hahahaha05:36
bob2haha05:36
bob2hah05:36
kemikuhm05:36
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kemiki think you've been misinformed bodisan05:37
fredforfaenpls anyone...apt is about to remove 40 pkgs if i upgrade , do i go ahead?05:37
bob2bodisan: no, seriously, if you want ports forwarded in, configure your router correctly05:37
naliothbodisan: your ports ARE open, check your router at portforward.com05:37
bob2fredforfaen: er, do you want those 40 packages?05:37
kemikbodisan:  you need to put portforwards in the router05:37
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butcherbirdbodisan, prob just need to login to the router and set it up. or switch port to like 8080 or something ;)05:37
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spanglesontoastdoes anyone know a good place to learn about programming in c?05:37
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spanglesontoasta website not an irc channel..05:37
kemikspanglesontoast:  get a book05:37
bodisanthe rooter is already set up, and works just fine on my other PC (Windows XP)05:37
bob2spanglesontoast: what other languages do you know?05:37
bodisanit should open ports automatically through uPnP05:38
kemikspanglesontoast:  if youre serious about programming, you should get a decent book and not follow tutorials05:38
snorkswe experimented with that on school today. I nmap'ed my buddy, (he's using win xp sp2 with firewall OFF) and he showed up. I run a default ubuntu install (by default i mean i have not installed any firewall) and he couldn't nmap me05:38
bob2bodisan: if you want it to forward thigns to your ubuntu machine, configure it to do so05:38
bob2bodisan: that's not how the world works, sorry05:38
kemikbodisan:  no it shouldnt05:38
spanglesontoasti tried reading a book05:38
RiverRatIs there any chance I could get someone to paste their /etc/inittab for me to peak at?05:38
spanglesontoastit just doesn't work for me05:38
bob2snorks: sure hew could, you just don't have anything listening, by default05:38
fredforfaenbob2 dont think so , though kdelibs4 is about to get removed and i need to use k3b :(05:38
bob2fredforfaen: so don't let apt do that05:38
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kemikspanglesontoast:  well, you read a book and perform small tasks at the same time05:38
snorksbob2: I ssh'ed home to my computer at home (which would make 22 open), still nothing05:38
kemikspanglesontoast:  maybe attend a class on your local uni. ?05:38
bodisanok.... so I'll manually open port 6881 for forwarding, hope it works05:39
fredforfaenbob2 but i want to upgrade to breezy , isnt this the only way?05:39
butcherbirdspanglesontoast, maybe look for like a "CBT" or other training thing to get started05:39
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naliothfredforfaen: it'll all be ok in about 10 days05:39
bob2snorks: someone was using nmap incorrectly, then; or you have source-address rules05:39
bob2fredforfaen: ?05:39
bob2fredforfaen: no05:39
bob2fredforfaen: just wait05:39
kemikspanglesontoast:  but if its your first language.. learn a OO lang. to start with...05:39
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spanglesontoast00 language?05:39
kemikobject oriented05:39
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snorksbob2: no rules. they used nmap with same flags between XP comps, and they all showed some netbios ports open.05:40
fredforfaenok...ill just wait and not upgrade yet then ......05:40
bodisanAnother question... can I write on ntfs? (it might be a stupid question, but I'm the newbie of the newbies) :D05:40
bob2spanglesontoast: what other programming languages do you know?05:40
spanglesontoastoh...05:40
kemikand i think maybe you could take this in #ubuntu-offtopic05:40
bob2bodisan: no05:40
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spanglesontoastwell it's not it's hard to learn c programming it's kinda what to do next05:40
kemikspanglesontoast:  java is a nice beginner language i think... and then you can learn c++ and pointers :)05:40
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naliothbodisan: writing to NTFS is a good step toward a 0-windows box05:40
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SithAdminmorning all....anybody playing with zimbra on ubuntu yet?05:41
kemiknalioth:  i didnt quite get that ...05:41
kemiknalioth:  if i have a 0-windows box i surely dont have to write to NTFS ;)05:41
spanglesontoastmy mate etheron said I should make a cd lib05:41
bob2spanglesontoast: C is a terrible first language05:41
bob2spanglesontoast: there are lots of libraries for messing with cds, already05:41
kemikbob2:  amen to that05:41
SithAdminbob2, agreed..need to learn assembly first then everything else just falls into place..05:42
spanglesontoastyea.05:42
naliothkemik: if you write to NTFS from linux, you may wipe your NTFS partition. freeing it up for ext305:42
fredforfaendamn is breezy really so unstable that you cant run kde and gnome on the same install???05:42
spanglesontoastbut I wanna learn the basics05:42
bob2fredforfaen: no, of course not05:42
naliothfredforfaen: it works fine05:42
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spanglesontoastmaybe make a mud after that05:42
bob2fredforfaen: please don't make wild uninformed claims in the hope of getting attention05:42
bob2it's really silly and annoying05:42
spanglesontoastwithout the m05:42
kemiknalioth:  ahaha. oic what you mean ;)05:42
fredforfaensorry bob205:42
spanglesontoastheh05:42
fredforfaenim just curius05:42
snorksand 1 questionmark is enough05:42
kemikSithAdmin:  haha.. assembly first ;) good one05:43
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fredforfaenso why did i run into this problem then?Was it something i did ?05:43
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SithAdminkemik, I started with basic on the apple-2 then went to assembly, then pascal, fortran, cobol, C, then up the line.05:43
snorksfredforfaen: maybe something with the login manager?05:43
kemikspanglesontoast:  learn c++ and do some opengl apps. that's fun05:43
Riddellfredforfaen: why can't you run kde and gnome?05:44
spanglesontoastI want to learn c your pushing me off somewhere else05:44
bodisanis apt-get update suppose not to find some of the packages?05:44
kemikSithAdmin:  well that's ok.. but there's really no need to learn assembly language.. unless you wanna know more of how the CPU works05:44
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jstrubbergOr write code for embedded controllers05:44
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kemikjstrubberg:  mmmm ...05:44
fredforfaenRiddell i want to upgrade to breezy , and when i switched the repos and run apt-get update and dist-upgrade it wanted to remove kdelibs4 and i need that for k3b05:44
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kemikbut just getting started with coding, i'd say java/c++05:45
kemiksnorks:  you mean pop()05:45
spanglesontoasti want c05:45
spanglesontoastthen I'll move on to c++05:45
Riddellfredforfaen: did it say why?05:45
kemikspanglesontoast: well C is retarded05:45
jstrubbergReally?  I always thought C was kind of a pain.  It's so compact that debugging can be a true boil on the behind.05:45
fredforfaenRiddell no....05:45
kemikand you'll never use it ever again after learning c++05:45
spanglesontoastgrrrr why is life so confusing05:46
othernoobkemik: really? why is that?05:46
kemikothernoob:  what's the point of using C ? except having headaches05:46
othernoobspanglesontoast: so you can look forward to death05:46
spanglesontoastI do have a book on sams teach yourself C++ in 10 mins05:46
SithAdminC is good for small projects, embedded programming, that kinda thing.05:46
othernoobkemik: i might ask the same regarding women..05:46
SithAdminC++ is better for large projects..05:47
spanglesontoastbut not sure if it's a good book05:47
kemikSithAdmin:  if you're a hobbycoder i dont think you'll code for emedded systems05:47
kemikand usually it'll be some big-ass app you *want* todo ;)05:47
SithAdminkemik, I am a hobby coder and I code embedded processors all the time....05:47
fredforfaen!breezy05:47
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade05:47
SithAdminatmel AVR, microchip PIC, and 8051/8052 chips....05:48
kemikoh i really messed up the spelling of "embedded" ;)05:48
spanglesontoastlike I've noticed05:48
Prof_FrinkOK, trying to get wifi with a Belkin F5D7011 PCMCIA card. Followed instructions at http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu bu don't see a 'wireless connection' in step 3. Any hints?05:48
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kemikSithAdmin:  really? what do ya do then ?05:48
SithAdminmake embedded processor based home automation systems for fun..05:48
SithAdminand robotics05:48
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spanglesontoastthat you use printf to display output but in cpp you use cout05:48
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kemikspanglesontoast:  std::cout if i may ;)05:49
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kemikspanglesontoast:  but basically anything that can be done in C can be done i C++05:49
kemikspanglesontoast:  so if you know C++, you'll "know" C05:49
SithAdminkemik, with a couple of minor exceptions, yes, agreed..05:49
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capskemik spanglesontoast:  but basically anything that can be done in C can be done i C++ : you can compile any C program with a C++ compiler... well, almost05:49
SithAdminwell,,will ask again, anybody play with zimbra yet?05:50
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kemikcaps:  i know :)05:50
XHKhow to enable DHCP?05:50
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bob2fredforfaen: if you want a definite answer on your issue, you need to show us the entire output of apt, and your /etc/apt/sources.list05:50
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spanglesontoastok05:50
kemik(and well... i guess you could create most C++ apps in C, but ooooh the headache ... ;) )05:50
XHKhow to enable DHCP?05:50
SithAdminXHK, /etc/init.d/dhcpd start05:51
SithAdminif it is installed.05:51
spanglesontoastso your saying c++ is the way forward and c is for older and simple programs05:51
XHKty05:51
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SithAdminyou will have to edit the dhcp config file first though.05:51
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bob2C and C++ have limited use in the modern world05:51
kemikspanglesontoast:  i just dont think there's any really great point of learning C first and then C++...05:51
SithAdminspanglesontoast, for modern systems and programming the object oriented C++ is the way to go...05:51
kemikbob2:  nah, C++ is still cool... game.developing etc ;)05:51
XHKSithAdmin, what happens when its not installed?05:51
bob2spanglesontoast: learn python or ruby first, so you really know how to program05:52
kemikas SithAdmin said... OO is the way togo05:52
SithAdminXHK, it wont start..05:52
bob2learning C will then be simple but frustrating05:52
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spanglesontoasti had trouble with python05:52
XHKSithAdmin, but what should i do then?05:52
SithAdminI taught myself C back in 1988...05:52
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bluefoxicyIs it safe for me to assume daniels is the one repackaging X every 5 hours?05:52
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kemikSithAdmin:  i was playing with Lego then ;)05:52
SithAdminXHK, apt-get install dhcpd05:52
XHKty05:53
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SithAdminkemik, I still play with lego...1200 USD worth of lego mindstorms in my basement..and no kids..05:53
bob2bluefoxicy: read the changelog05:53
kemikoh my :)05:53
spanglesontoasthmmm05:53
bob2spanglesontoast: if you had trouble with python, C is going to be enormously frustrating for you05:53
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bluefoxicybob2:  s/*/& every 5 hours/05:53
spanglesontoastI just wished i had a book for python05:53
bluefoxicybob2:  :)05:53
JustinHHi have downloaded tvtime with synaptic. the image is black and white with. i use the pal system. can i get the specific pal sistem for romania?05:53
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sockpuppe1out of a quaint curiosity, is installing fedora worthwhile05:53
spanglesontoastbah gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `cc1plus': No such file or director05:53
bob2spanglesontoast: www.diveintopython.org05:53
bob2spanglesontoast: install build-essential05:54
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spanglesontoastty05:54
SithAdminspanglesontoast, there is a lot more to the compiler et all than just gcc...build-essential gets most of what you should need though.05:54
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bluefoxicy  * Implement an anti-"I LOVE TO SHOT MY FEET" check that05:55
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spanglesontoastah05:55
spanglesontoasti'm just trying to do a hello world thing thou05:55
spindleyhas anyone got e17 successfully built on breezy current?05:55
yanchenghello all, may I know is "http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/" the backport for ubuntu?05:55
yanchengi cann't get any respond frm that server05:56
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deFryskyancheng, dont use it05:56
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naliothyancheng: search planet.ubuntulinux.com for "backports"05:56
spanglesontoastah05:56
spanglesontoastI missed the # out of the include05:56
naliothdeFrysk: search planet.ubuntulinux.com for backports05:56
spanglesontoastlol05:56
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deFrysknalioth, okies ;p05:57
bluefoxicy  * Revert DRI protocol back to 4.x, so fglrx is all shiny again.  Note that05:57
bluefoxicy    this change breaks mixed 32/64-bit DRI clients.05:57
butcherbirdscorpian are you in here?  hiding behind proxy... you deleted files off ftp server.  Ill kill you...05:57
yanchengnalioth: the url cannot be found :(05:57
bluefoxicy^^^ Personally I would break it05:57
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naliothmy bad, sorry it's http://planet.ubuntulinux.org/05:57
bluefoxicy(yes I'm an asshole)05:58
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yanchengnalioth: thanks05:58
spanglesontoastonly a simple problem05:58
bruce90the backports are at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/05:58
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spanglesontoastit keeps saying permission denied on my own program05:58
SithAdminspanglesontoast, chmod +755 programname05:58
Renskibutcherbird: sorry to point this out...but why didnt you make a read only account if it was that importent?05:58
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butcherbirdwell its his server I was just hiding stuff on it...05:58
Renskilol05:59
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spanglesontoastbah? bash: ./test.o: cannot execute binary file05:59
Renskispanglesontoast: tried chmod 700 ./test.o ?05:59
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Renskithen try and run it05:59
SithAdminspanglesontoast, you cant execute a .o file05:59
SithAdminit needs to be linked.05:59
ionsafter doing updates I can't open external links in FF05:59
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spanglesontoastoh05:59
Renskierr06:00
spanglesontoastdid i compile it wrong?06:00
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SithAdminwhat command did you use to compile it?06:00
spanglesontoastgcc -c06:00
Renskiuse g++06:00
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Renskig++ input.c -o output06:00
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SithAdmin-c tells it not to link.06:00
ionsanyone else having trouble opening external links in FF?06:00
spanglesontoastah06:00
spanglesontoastdone ty06:01
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spanglesontoastI thought gcc was g++?06:01
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yanchengmay i noe the difference of hoary-backport and hoary-extra??06:02
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SithAdmingcc only calls g++ if the filename ends in .cpp I think...as I recall it assumes standard gcc for .c files...g++ compiles it with c++ libs rather than older c libs06:02
ionsno one else is having problems in Breezy opening external links in FF?06:02
spanglesontoastoh ok06:02
spanglesontoastthat would explain alot06:03
spanglesontoastlol06:03
XHKSithAdmin looks i dont have dhcp, and apt-get isntall dhcp doesent work too06:03
spanglesontoastI do understand you it's just the c++ language that I do not06:03
SithAdminXHK, apt-get install dhcpd06:03
XHKyea i tried it too06:03
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XHKit wont find the package06:03
bruce90what external links>06:03
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SithAdminXHK, it would be something with your apt sources then..there might be another dhcp package out there...06:04
peppertartsHey all...I have a strange problem with the Ubuntu fglrx driver..... it is working fine, with DRI!!.... however it wont let me select the correct resolution, I'm stuck in 1024x768.... not goot on a display that should be 1280x80006:04
SithAdminXHK, try apt-cache search dhcpd06:04
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XHKok06:04
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peppertartsAnyone have any ideas?06:04
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SithAdminXHK, should give you a list of all packages with dhcpd in them..06:05
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XHKSithAdmin, but if i wont get dhcp, will it stop me from getting to internet?06:05
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SithAdminXHK, are you wanting a dhcp server?06:05
SithAdminor just trying to get online?06:05
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XHKummm i want to connect to internet, when i have adsl06:05
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SithAdmintotally different thing then...06:06
XHKmhh06:06
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SithAdminby default ubuntu should be able to get a dhcp address with no additional packages installed.06:06
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SithAdminleast it always has for me.06:06
_Benny_hi all06:06
XHKWhen i isntalled it, it couldnt find automatically some kind of dhcp things06:07
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XHKso i pressed i will conf it later06:07
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jstrubbergXHK, do you have the IP address of your router?06:08
XHKno06:08
XHKDotn have router06:08
XHKi have jsut modem06:08
XHKI messed with pppoeconf too. Can i somehow stop it?06:09
SithAdminpppoe maybe?06:09
jstrubbergAnd you have the modem cabled to the NIC card?06:09
XHKyes06:09
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jstrubbergNew connection or one you used before you went to ubuntu?06:09
XHKI got ubuntu on that computer, right now im in windows06:10
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jstrubbergDoes the connection work under windows?06:10
SithAdminXHK, and how many IPs does your modem provide to you?06:10
XHKyes06:10
XHKI dont know lol06:10
SithAdmingenerally only one...which means one machine at a time connected to it..unless you have a router...06:11
jstrubbergAnd ubuntu is on another computer and you want to connect that one to the internet over the same adsl connection, right?06:11
XHKUbuntu is on that computer06:11
hutgyrrcan you force the maximum writing speed with growisofs without an implications?06:12
jstrubbergOk, how is the second computer connected to the first one?  A hub of some kind?06:12
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thehil How do I find the number of occurance of a search result in vim?06:12
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XHKHow can i stop taht pppoeconf thing?06:13
PsyloXHK, on intall i always have to autodetect DHCP two or three times for it to detect if that helps at all06:13
^AnK^[away] wheew... i haven't identify my nick yet, but i can join this channel.... this is odd?06:13
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XHKHmn06:13
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XHKCant i detect in any more?06:13
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XHKPsylo, cant i detect in again?06:14
XHKsomho06:14
XHKw06:14
XHKsomehow06:14
PsyloXHK, setting > network > properties choose DHCP in configuration06:14
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benkong2where can I see those boot messages that flash by on my screen at boot time just long enough for me to see partially? I did dmesg but they are not there.06:15
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Psylomight detect on reboot or something im not sure06:15
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urobby by06:15
mgh0^has anyone installed cedega sucessfully?06:15
{X}!tcl06:15
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, {X}06:15
morfhi leute hab ne digicam un ubuntu 5.04 hab sie grad angeschlossen aba geht glaubich nix... was nu?06:15
mgh0^on breezy06:15
benkong2on my breezy boot I have a message about 8139 driver not found try 8139too06:15
XHKAnd how can i stop pppoeconf, or run it again? I messed it up and if i wanna run it again it says something is in use or not connected06:16
PsyloXHK, sorry, System menu > Administration > Network > Properties06:16
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benkong2!boot messages06:16
ubotuNo idea, benkong206:16
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XHKHow can i stop pppoeconf, or run it again? I messed it up and if i wanna run it again it says something is in use or not connected06:16
Cube-nesshey.. breezy is working great for me, but i get the default login screen (not the ubuntu one) and an alert that says the config  has an incorrect command in it..06:16
Cube-nesswhere is this config'd at?06:16
jstrubbergReboot and alt+F4 to watch the text?06:16
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XHKI typed pppoeconf to terminal, confed everything, but it didnt work and i wanna conf again coz i think i typed my username wrong06:17
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PsyloXHK, open a terminal and type pppoeconf to run the config again06:17
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{X}anyone know where i can get TCL06:18
{X}from06:18
XHKbut it says that connection is in use or ewhatever06:18
XHKi accepted it to start thge connection every startup06:18
XHKcant i stop it or msth06:18
XHKsmth06:18
XHK?06:18
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XHKArgh im so noob :P06:19
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urobI have a problem with adsl modem (Sitecom dc213)06:19
golfer27How do I change hostname when remastering Ubuntu 5.10 live cd?06:19
{X}urob install ndiswrapper06:19
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XHKDoes someone know then how to stop my connection?06:19
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PsyloXHK, dont worry everyone is learning all the time :) does it work after a reboot?06:19
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XHKUmm i said, i accepted it to connect every startup06:20
JKnifei feel like an idiot... i was only getting 30Kb on the servers... b/c i had it set to http instead of ftp06:20
urobWhat is ndswrapper?06:20
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jojox87how can i use the console06:20
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nalioth!tell jojox87 about cli06:21
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jojox87quit06:21
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{X}!ndiswrapper06:22
ubotuit has been said that ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wirless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper06:22
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XHKOr maybe someone knows how can i just change my adsl account's username06:22
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hmrochahello06:23
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hmrochawhat packages have the openoffice dictionaries?06:23
PsyloXHK, i offered all the help i can im afraid, if you choose DHCP in network settings it should automatically detect the settings as far as i know but im using a router06:24
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Ashenyeau06:25
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Ashenanyone successfully mounted an iso in breezy?06:25
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Whistleranybody else have just updated?06:25
jstrubbergXHK, I'm still not clear how you are getting from the ubuntu machine to the adsl router06:25
Whistlercause i am getting a bunch of errors booting06:25
Ashen???06:26
mcrandellohi does anyone know where I could download a .deb for sun java?06:26
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PsyloAshen, sudo mount -loop xxxxx.iso /dev/cdrom i think06:26
Ashenmmm... I'm getting the following error06:27
naliothmcrandello: hoary or breezy?06:27
urobmy adsl modem is ethernet ..and it isn't seen unbelievable06:27
mcrandellonalioth, hoary06:27
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Ashenmount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop2,06:27
hmrochamcrandello, that is not legal, you have to create the .deb yourself06:27
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naliothmcrandello: http://www.giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/06:27
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naliothmcrandello: be illegal06:27
motoguzzican anyone explain why ubuntu and some other flavours of linux dont support mp3 and dvd out of the box06:27
mcrandellonalioth, thanks :)06:27
naliothmotoguzzi: licensing06:27
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Ashenmotoguzzi: to protect them from legalities that might make them not free or get them sued.06:28
motoguzzidvd i can see but mp306:28
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seigologiesany malaysian here?06:28
Ashenits a proprietry format06:28
PsyloAshen, mount -o loop -t iso9660 xxxxx.iso /mnt/isoimage/ - from the web06:28
tritiumseigologies: race/ethnicity is irrelevant here06:28
mcrandelloI was under the impression that you *could* redist java as long as you didn't also provide competitors' implementations06:28
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AshenPsylo: yeh, I get that error when I use that command...06:29
seigologiessorry06:29
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naliothmcrandello: ssshhhh. just go get it06:29
seigologiesjust want to now06:29
mcrandellothe jre is what I want for the firefox plugin, right?06:29
motoguzziso these things dont affect billy and the the gang, will they not always be ahead of linux06:29
naliothmcrandello: it'll fix you up06:29
seigologiesjust want to know06:29
Ashenthe syslog says --> Unable to identify CD-ROM format.06:29
Ashen:S06:30
PsyloAshen, I get that error sometimes with .bin files converted to .iso perhaps the iso is screwed06:30
jstrubbergmoto, as long as people continue to use their formats, yes06:30
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Ashenit works in windows06:30
Ashenbut I've tried a couple06:30
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AshenI'll try some others06:30
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seigologieshow to ask any quest?06:31
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naliothseigologies: use your keyboard06:31
Ashennope, doesn't work with a perfectly fine ubuntu iso either06:31
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Ashenhrmmm.06:31
seigologiesorait06:31
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Ashenperhaps there is something wrong with my mount of the hdd I'm reading it from?06:32
PsyloAshen, perhaps the mount point is wrong i have to use /dev/cdrom1/ or something06:32
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seigologiescan i pm with someone?06:32
tritiumseigologies: please ask in the channel06:32
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mcrandellonalioth, thank you and thank you Francis06:33
Ashenyou use a mountpoint inside your device node dir?06:33
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AshenO-o06:33
Ashenwurd.06:33
mgh0^has anyone managed to install Cedega onto the amd64 version of ubuntu?06:33
seigologieserm..06:33
fbnI try to apt-get smbfs but dpkg tells me this:   smbfs: Depends: samba-common (= 3.0.10-1ubuntu3) but 3.0.14a-3ubuntu3~5.04ubp1 is to be installed - no backports in sources.list ... what's wrong here?06:33
AshenI dunno, have you mounted any iso's on breezy?06:33
traskrecommendable ftp client gui that i can get on apt-get?06:33
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Ashengftp06:33
mcrandellomgh0^, I managed to get the cvs installed but it didn't work so well06:33
mgh0^trask fireftp for fitefox is pretty good06:33
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PsyloAshen, no i havent in breezy06:33
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tritiumtrask: gftp06:34
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mcrandellomgh0^, oh wait you said 64 nm06:34
mgh0^mcrandello, how?06:34
AshenPsylo: I'm thinking that there might be something wrong with the loopback device in breezy.06:34
seigologiesi have problem about sound..06:34
trasksais package not found.. seems like the ubuntu im logged into needs a new list...:(06:34
mcrandellomgh0^, sorry, didn't mean to get your hopes up :(06:34
seigologiesi use benq labtop06:34
AshenPsylo: but I dunno how I'd fix that06:34
Ashen:p06:34
tritiumtrask: have you upated the list?06:34
PsyloAshen, im trying to find an ISO to mount06:34
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spanglesontoastwhat's this error E: /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/var/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions.d/00classic', which is also in package firefox06:35
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trasktritium: nope.. im on slackware here.. ssh i try to help a freind06:35
tritiumspanglesontoast: just what it looks like06:35
tritiumtrask: he needs to sudo apt-get update06:35
trasktritium: how do i update list?06:35
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spanglesontoasthow do I fix06:35
trasktritium: tnx :)06:35
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mouhezhow do I install ubuntu on a 1700 mb hd?06:35
seigologiesno sound?06:35
Dr_Willisspanglesontoast,  in the past ive uninstalled  the old package, then reinstalled the new06:35
traskim logged in as root btw06:35
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seigologieshow to..06:35
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tritiumtrask: which one are you installing?06:36
spanglesontoastyea i just tried doing that aswell06:36
trasktritium: tried both after update, none where found.. :(06:36
AshenPsylo: k06:36
spanglesontoastit says the same error when trying to update that package or removing it06:36
tritiumtrask: both being which ones?  they might be in repositories your friend needs to add06:36
trasktritium: gftp first then fireftp06:37
tritiumtrask: hoary or breezy?06:37
butcherbirdmouhez, you could just do a server install clean that up and then apt-get the other stuff06:37
trasktritium: breezy06:37
peppertartsDoes anyone know how to force a certain screen resolution to be used? My xorg.0.log is only listing resolutions up to 1024x768 as usable06:37
mouhezbutcherbird 'kay06:37
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spanglesontoastit says the same error when trying to update that package or removing it06:37
spanglesontoastoops06:37
spanglesontoastsorry06:37
ccookepeppertarts: you're sure your hardware supports higher resolutions?06:38
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seigologiessomebody06:38
seigologieshelp06:38
peppertartsyeah, I'm using a laptop with a screen that is 1280x80006:38
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rockin_stanseigologies, ?06:38
spanglesontoastah fixed06:38
spanglesontoastdw06:38
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rockin_stan!tell seigologies about ask06:38
seigologiesabout sound06:38
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seigologiesno sound in y labtop06:39
tritium!info gftp06:39
ubotugftp: (X/GTK+ FTP client), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2.0.18-2 (hoary), Packaged size: 43 kB, Installed size: 76 kB06:39
seigologiesok06:39
seigologiest06:39
trasktritium: cant i add some more servers to the apt-get list?.. think i did that back when i tried debian for a little while06:39
spanglesontoastok06:40
AshenPsylo: I get the same thing when I'm attempting to mount from the ext06:40
spanglesontoastnow I cannot start firefox great06:40
tritiumtrask: see ubotu's reply above.  gftp is in universe06:40
urobI don't succeed in installing any modems (of it ethernet of it ubs) not even following the ordinary proceedures06:40
tritiumyou need to add the universe repos, trask06:40
trasktritium: ok ill try that06:40
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tritium!tell trask about repositories06:40
urobthe error of the usb is this:root@systemrob:~# /home/urob/cestorob/adsl/eciadsl-usermode-0.10/eciadsl-doctor You are using linux kernel version 2.6.12-8-amd64-generic06:40
urobSupport for USB is OK06:40
urobPreliminary USB device filesystem is OK06:40
urobdabusb module is not loaded: OK06:40
urobUHCI support is OK06:40
urobOHCI support is not needed06:40
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urob/dev/ppp is OK06:40
urobHDLC support is OK06:40
tritiumspanglesontoast: you were using backports, weren't you?06:40
urobHDLC support is OK (no bug)06:41
urobI cannot find your ADSL modem: Fatal06:41
urobroot@systemrob:~#06:41
traskty06:41
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spanglesontoastbackports?06:41
PsyloAshen, works here06:41
Ashenhrmmm.06:41
Ashensame command?06:41
PsyloAshen, http://www.frankandjacq.com/ubuntuguide/5.04/index.html#mountunmountisofileswithoutburning06:41
spanglesontoastjust using the repos listed on the wikis06:41
erUSULurob: do *not* paste here see /topic06:41
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Whistleranybody else having probs with last breezy update?06:42
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tritiumspanglesontoast: which ones?  There are several06:42
tritiumWhistler: in what way?06:42
Whistlercause nautilus hangs up06:42
urobwhere is  /topic ?06:42
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sunshinehi in need w32codec now hoary extra suppose to have it but it dont06:42
spanglesontoastno idea now06:43
tritiumsunshine: they were removed06:43
erUSULurob: for error messages use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/06:43
AshenPsylo: strange... still nothing... I'm gonna do a reboot... brb06:43
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erUSULurob: and post only the url06:43
PsyloAshen, good luck :)06:43
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trasktritium: nice page, tho i cant do that adding in commandline :P  (on ssh only)06:44
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tritiumtrask: you can add if you edit /etc/apt/sources.list06:44
naliothsunshine: http://www.giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/06:44
snorkswhat's put command to put multiple files/directory? (-r) via ftp06:44
trasktritium: ty once again06:45
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tritiumtrask: thanks for helping your friend :)06:45
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spanglesontoastit moans something about sources06:45
erUSULsnorks: mput, you could have tryed the help in your ftp client06:46
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snorkserUSUL: tried.06:47
snorkserUSUL: put             send one file06:47
loststrykhmmm my download speeds have tripled since i installed ubuntu.... weird..06:47
erUSULsnorks: and mput?06:47
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loststryktoo weird06:49
loststrykhow can i be getting 351KB/s downloads on a 1mbit connection ?06:49
Psyloloststryk, i find torrents soar in ubuntu compared to win XP06:49
loststrykyeah but a 1mbit is like 120KB/s ?06:50
evianwhen I print in Gnome I can't get the output to be nearly as good as it is in windows when I have the windows settings on "high quality". (I have an hp deskjet 840c inkjet.) Any suggestions?06:50
loststrykmaybe my provider made a mistake or something....06:50
ccookeloststryk: 1) compression 2) locally cached data...06:50
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loststrykdownloading rar / films06:50
jstrubberg1 mbit is 1024 K.06:50
ccookethere are tons of possible reasons :-)06:50
Psyloloststryk, its being sent that fast, you recieving your top speed - be happy :)06:50
ccookejstrubberg: actually, no.06:50
loststryknot going to look a gifthorse in the mouth06:50
loststryk:)06:50
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ccookeit's 1000000 bits per second.06:50
Psylojstrubberg, thats 1 megabyte06:51
carretthey guys. i'm on breezy, i have to use an older version of cdrecord though, because of hardware issues. anyway, is there any way i can stop the update thingy from bugging me to update cdrecord?06:51
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ccookebecause the marketeers got to it first.06:51
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Psylojstrubberg, confusing eh? i know06:51
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jstrubbergThat's what he said, a 1mbit connection06:51
evianI've tried the advanced tab in the printer properties, increasing the res to 600dpi, but that doesn't seem to do it06:51
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randyspizerheil06:51
Psylojstrubberg, 1 megaBIT is smaller than 1 megaBYTE06:52
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Zeke1anybody have an ati x800 and got it to work...mine dont want to06:52
loststryk8 times smaller06:52
naliothcarrett: see the wiki on apt pinning06:52
ccookeZeke1: closest I have is an X60006:52
randyspizerhello06:52
randyspizeri am from spain06:52
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sunshinei try that website to download w32codec the download just finsh the debian binary is unknow anyone have any other ideas how I can get w32codec06:52
jstrubbergAh.  Gotcha.  1mbit would be 140 some K06:52
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Zeke1ccooke, is yours working cause my X wont start when i select ati drivers?06:52
bratscheHi guys.06:52
erUSULrandyspizer: better try in #ubuntu-es06:52
jstrubbergYou have a provider giving out megaBIT connections?  Never run into that before06:53
evianccooke: marketing: where the rubber meets the sky06:53
ccookeZeke1: works fine, breezy and hoary.06:53
Psyloloststryk, windows limits outgoin/incoming connections to 25 or something, perhaps thats a reason06:53
randyspizerthank you06:53
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AshenPsylo: still nothing-- I think you might be right about the iso's being corrupted06:53
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Zeke1ccooke, i have breezy...but i dont know whats wrong06:53
PsyloAshen, damn, bad luck pal :(06:53
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loststrykpsylo; not sure whats going on, but i do my 1mbit connection should not be going over 126KB/s, but it's quite happily crusing along at 351KB/s06:53
d[^_-] b`how to enter console mode ?06:53
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ccookeZeke1: okay. How did you install the ati drivers?06:54
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Psyloloststryk, my dl speed goes well over the limit sometimes too, wether you actually get that speed is debatable but it seems like it sometimes06:54
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tritiumZeke1: I hope you followed the wiki for installing ATI drivers06:55
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ccookehave you installed linux-restricted-modules-386 (or 686 or k7 or whatever your architecture is)06:55
Zeke1ccooke, it was during installation it auto detected and then bombed out and gave an error...i changed the xorg file to vesa drivers just to get X to work06:55
ccookeI see06:55
tritium!tell Zeke1 about ati06:55
Zeke1ccooke, i also tried dpk-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:55
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Psyloloststryk, reap the benefits my man :)06:56
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loststryki am06:56
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loststrykvcd after vcd :)06:56
MFenhi!06:56
sunshinei need to get w32codec does anyone know how i can get it i've already tried deb06:56
Psyloloststryk, lol good work06:56
MFenof the various systems for locally caching apt updates for other ubuntu/debian machines on a lan, what's the least painful to set up and use?06:56
athasunshine: what was wrong with the .deb06:56
ccookeZeke1: try following the instructions you've been given for installing the fglrx (ati proprietary) drivers06:56
MFeni have about 4 ubuntu computers that need to get updates from one other one, rather than the network06:57
naliothsunshine: www.mplayerhq.hu on the downloads page06:57
Psylolater all, may ubuntu treat you well :)06:57
ccookeHmm. Time to escape from work.06:57
sunshinethe debian binary is unknow when  the download is finsh06:57
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Zeke1ccooke, where are those instructions?06:57
MFencan anyone make a recommendation? is, say, apt-proxy any good?06:58
tritiumZeke1: I had ubotu msg you with them06:58
tritiumnever tried it, MFen06:58
urobFor my problem:http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/261706:58
Zeke1tritium, oh yeah but thsoe instruction are only for werty and hoary i have breezy06:58
tritiumZeke1: same applies for breezy06:59
Zeke1ok06:59
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Zeke1thx06:59
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ccooketritium: hmm.... ATI instructions for breezy should be updated06:59
ccooke!tell me about ati07:00
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tritiumccooke: in what way?07:00
traskis there a default teminal editor install i can use?.. emacs doesnt seem to either work nor want to b apt-get installed07:00
ccooketritium: no, it's okay. I just checked the instructions and they're simpler than the ones I followed07:00
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tritiumtrask: apt-cache search emacs should help you find the package name07:01
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ccookethat is, simpler than the *hoary* instructions I followed first, months ago07:01
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trasktritium: ty .. again :)07:01
adjacenttrask: im sure vi is there07:01
tritiumccooke: I see.  Thanks for checking.07:01
jstrubbergI just downloaded the .run file from the ATI website and used sh to execute it, then fglrxconfig.  Got my 9250 card going perfectly07:01
tritiumyeah, vi should be there by default, as well as pico07:01
MFenwell lemme make this simpler.  between apt-proxy and debproxy, which one do people recommend?07:01
ccookebut the drivers in breezy are *vastly* better than the ones we had for hoary.07:01
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tritiumjstrubberg: please don't advise that to others07:01
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jstrubbergReally?  Problems?07:02
MFenccooke: is that a general statement about drivers or just that hardware?07:02
hutgyrrhow do u quit vi?07:02
MFenbecause i gotta say, the drivers in hoary are generally excellent07:02
adjacenthutgyrr: either shift zz, or :q07:02
tritiumjstrubberg: yeah, it writes files onto the system that are not under package management07:02
tritiumubuntu packages should be used instead07:02
jstrubbergAh, so afterwarads you are stuck manually updating07:02
ccookeMFen: the ATI drivers in breezy are the latest release, which was an absolutely massive improvement.07:02
hutgyrrahhhh yeah, i much prefer nano07:02
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MFenccooke: ah ok07:02
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tritiumhutgyrr: then use pico07:03
evianhow can I add a folder to the "Places" menu at the top of the screen?07:03
hutgyrrpico seems to just load nano07:03
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Dr_WillisI got ati and breezy on my X200m based laptop working.. which suprised me.07:03
Dr_Willis:P07:03
ccookeMFen: on my hoary install, before I installed the latest version from ATI (since hoary doesn't have 8.16.20) I couldn't get two monitors working.07:03
nalioth!tell evian about smeg07:03
adjacentpico < nano < emacs < vi < vim, isnt nano more featuer rich than pico?07:03
hutgyrrpico config.pl is the same as nano config.pl07:03
tritiumhutgyrr: it's not nano.  It just looks exactly like it07:03
MFenccooke: you deprived individual :)07:03
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erUSULhutgyrr: nano is apico clon pico is not free software07:04
ccookeMFen: 8.16.20 gives a roughly 20% GL speed increase, and fixes autodetection of monitors.07:04
adjacentahh07:04
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ccookehuge difference.07:04
MFenccooke: how do games play? i've been thinking about putting ati in my next system07:04
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hutgyrrwell when I load pico it says at the top of the terminal GNU NANO 1.2.407:04
ccookeMFen: fine. I have darwinia and neverwinternights on here07:04
MFencoo07:04
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ccookeMFen: NWN is noticably faster than the windows version07:04
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adjacenterUSUL: ;) just threw that in there for fun.07:05
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ccookeMFen: ... for a start, it's (almost) playable in 1920x1200...07:05
MFenccooke: i've seen that in other games, at least with nvidia07:05
MFen:)07:05
ccookewell, except for the font being completely unreadable :-)07:05
MFenheh07:05
hutgyrrso what is NANO then if its not free software07:05
ccookethere's no point trying to play it at anything above about 1024x76807:05
tritiumhutgyrr: it's software from U.W., like pine07:06
hutgyrris it not *GNU* nano???07:06
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havocnano is GNU07:06
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tritiummilli, micro, nano, pico...whatever.  yes, it's gnu07:06
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hutgyrryes so does that mean its GPL07:06
ccookeMFen: the linux version crashes about as often as the windows version... but the windows version has a habit of crashing every time you try to leave a location, even when you load the savegame. So you have to go to a previous savegame... or restart the game07:06
erUSULhutgyrr: *pico* is not free07:07
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havoc*pico* is the U.W. pine package07:07
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ccookeanyway. I need to escape this pit of despair. Well. Office, pit of despair. Much the same...07:07
havocnano is a 'free' pico clone07:07
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hutgyrrso nano is GPL07:07
havocyes07:07
tritiumbut not pico or pine, hutgyrr07:07
BurgerMannHumn. Howcome it's more secure to not know the root pwd, when in fact the user can do root commands with their own passwords? :S07:07
hutgyrrwell, how is it that I get into nano whether I issue nano or pico?07:08
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gigaclonBurgerMann, only some users can do it07:08
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athait's because /usr/bin/pico is only a symbolic link :)07:08
erUSULBurgerMann: sudo commands get logged root comands do not07:08
MFenBurgerMann: it's not "security" so much as integrity. logging in as root means you will trash your system frequently.  sudo puts a layer of "think" in between you and the dangerous commands. us07:08
sunshinenal i went to the mplayer website and download the codec file but it came back the file is unknown07:08
nerpRunning aclocal...07:09
nerpaclocal: configure.in: 17: macro `AM_ENABLE_SHARED' not found in library07:09
nerpaclocal: configure.in: 18: macro `AM_PROG_LIBTOOL' not found in library07:09
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nerpanyone have any idea how to fix that?07:09
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hutgyrratha: why is that symbolic link set-up as default?07:09
nerpneed glibtool?07:09
GrannyTuxcute07:09
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GrannyTuxhttp://www.strangehorizons.com/2004/20040405/badger.shtml07:09
BurgerMannohh :907:09
evianSorry, who told me about smeg earlier? I mean who told ubotu to tell me about it? I have tried it (in breezy) but I can't figure out how to make it let me edit more than just the Applications menu. I'd like to edit the Places menu.07:10
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coobrawhats upp whit the repos...07:10
erUSULnerp:  do not paste here07:10
nerpmtay07:11
evian!tell evian about smeg07:11
nerp!aclocal07:12
ubotuNo idea, nerp07:12
Zeke1how do u get your kernel version in a terminal again07:12
nerpuname -a07:12
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nerpZeke1, ^07:12
tritiumIf you just need the number, use -r07:12
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athahutgyrr: to provide familiar name for executable for us who still mostly type "pico" when trying to run this easy to use editor07:13
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Zeke1tritium, when i follow those ati instructions ad do the apt-get install it says cant find xorg-driver-fglrx07:16
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tritiumZeke1: apt-cache search fglrx07:17
snorkshttp://fun.drno.de/pics/how_make_crossovercable.jpg <- general rule to ease remembering07:17
tritiumit should be there, Zeke107:17
Zeke1tritium,  i get a wierd error...can i put it in a pvet msg box for you?07:18
tritium!info xorg-driver-fglrx breezy07:18
ubotuxorg-driver-fglrx: (Video driver for ATI graphics accelerators), section restricted/misc, is optional. Version: 6.8.0-8.16.20-0ubuntu13 (breezy), Packaged size: 8129 kB, Installed size: 23540 kB07:18
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tritiumZeke1: do you have the restricted repo enabled?07:18
Zeke1tritium, probably ot07:19
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Zeke1not*07:19
tritiumZeke1: try working that issue first then, please07:19
Zeke1tritium, i dont know what restricted repo is....i get a weird error can i pvt msg it to you07:20
tritiumZeke1: okay07:20
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EnsignRedshirtHello, world.07:21
XHKI ran pppoeconf, but i think i insterted my username wrong. I cant run it again too, beacause it will say that acess concerator did not respond. I need to close another running pppoe process, but ho i do it?07:21
Zeke1tritium, i pasted it in a pvet msg box07:21
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erUSULXHK: poff?07:22
tritiumZeke1: I didn't get one.  Is your nick registered?07:22
sunshinedoes anyone know how i can get w32codec i tried deb and the mplayer website anyother ideas07:22
XHKerUSUL whats poff??07:22
tritiumsunshine: nalioth already told you07:22
gigaclonsunshine, synaptic07:22
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EnsignRedshirtSorry if this is an #ubuntu FAQ, but... How is breezy these days?  I currently run warty, but the from the sounds that my hard drive is making, I expect it will die soon.  I might as well upgrade when I replace it.  It might not last until the official release of breezy.07:23
erUSULa comand you type in a terminal07:23
XHKthat will stop pppoe process?07:23
Zeke1tritium, yeah i just forgot to identify myself let me try again07:23
AstralJavaEnsignRedshirt: It's gonna be released on Oct. 13th.07:23
XHKerUSUL will it stop pppoe process?07:23
Zeke1tritium,  now try07:23
EnsignRedshirtAstralJava: Have there been any major problems with the preview release of breezy?07:24
AstralJavaEnsignRedshirt: Oh, sorry I now got what you meant. Still unstable, more or less. If you can wait until release date, I'd suggest doing that.07:24
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XHKerUSUL will it stop pppoe process?07:24
EnsignRedshirtAstralJava: Ah, OK.07:24
erUSULXHK: with modems it woks, try07:24
XHKOk ty07:24
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gigaclonEnsignRedshirt, you can always upgrade after you installed ubuntu07:25
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dmacdonald111Hi all.07:25
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naliothEnsignRedshirt: if and when your HD dies, breezy is ok to use07:26
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jpfariashey guys07:26
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jpfariassince I've upgraded to breezy, my screen sometimes goes black as if the screensaver was enabled07:27
Ainvarwhat linux ipod application is compatible with ephpod in windows?07:27
jpfariasbut it happens when I'm using the computer07:27
AstralJavajpfarias: A laptop?07:27
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evianI found out how to add stuff to the Places menu, if anyone else cares.07:27
jpfariasAstralJava, yep07:27
dmacdonald111I am still having problems trying to set up my wireless network. I have the information available to view @ http://foxgamer.8m.net/custom.html. Could someone have a look and tell me where I'm going wrong. It's driving me mad!07:27
AstralJavajpfarias: No chance that the killswitch would be to blame? You know the one that closes when you close the lid?07:28
Dr_Williswireless is such an annoyance :P lol - i can get mine ALMOST working.07:28
AstralJavajpfarias: No idea, just my previous had that problem. Nothing to do with Breezy though. :)07:28
shekhar_can someone help me with bluetooth manager in breezy?07:28
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tritium!tell Zeke1 about repositories07:29
AstralJavashekhar_: I'll try, what's the problem?07:29
jpfariasAstralJava, I think it is not that thing which is pressed when one closes the display07:29
AdmiralSennanyone know of a way to recover a damaged ext2 filesystem without ruining all data on it?07:29
AstralJavashekhar_: Sorry, didn't read that far that it concerns Breezy... I'm still using Hoary.07:29
shekhar_AstralJava:  i cannot pair my phone, though it is detected and asks for a passkey, ubuntu does not respond07:29
EnsignRedshirtAs an alternative to upgrading... If I need to replace my hard drive and keep my installation, would the following work?  (1) Copy the entire drive to an external HD; (2) Replace the old drive with a new one; (3) Boot with some LiveCD (ubuntu, knoppix, whatever), and copy the external drive to the new drive; (4) reboot.07:30
evianAdmiralSenn: you know about fsck?07:30
shekhar_AstralJava:  it may not be a breezy-hoary issue07:30
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AdmiralSennevian, a little07:30
eviandid you try it already?07:30
AdmiralSennI don't know how to use it07:30
evianman fsck07:31
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valzaqcan anyone tell me how to bur a cd with gnome?07:31
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sunshinetri i tried that when it download the files were unknown07:31
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erUSULEnsignRedshirt: you will have to reinstall grub aswell07:31
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Dr_Willisheh - i hear the phrase "I dont know how" way too much at work when answering PC questions.07:31
sunshinew32codecs is not in synatics i checked there first it was in hoary extra but it not there anymore07:31
puffHm.07:32
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EnsignRedshirterUSUL: Ah, that's right.07:32
AstralJavashekhar_: What kind of a phone is it? Nokia, SonyEricsson, Siemens?07:32
dmacdonald111valzaq: Try using K3b which is very good for burning cd's07:32
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valzaqdoes it work in gnome?07:32
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B_166-ER-Xvalzaq,  you have a few choice , yo uhave Gnome Baker, wich i fin unreliable, or to install k3b, a KDE burning app, wich works really gret07:33
naliothvalzaq: it works very well07:33
Dr_Willisk3b works very well :P07:33
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dmacdonald111yes, valzaq, I only use gnome :)07:33
AstralJavavalzaq: Graveman is alright as well.07:33
Dr_Willisw32codecs -->  http://www.giannaros.org/tor/bt/07:33
valzaqok thanks07:33
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AdmiralSennevian, all it says is what I already know - it's probably a damaged superblock07:33
naliothDr_Willis: those are only for breezy07:33
AdmiralSennI did fsck /dev/hda2, which is the partition I need07:33
Dr_Willisbummer. :P07:33
erUSULvalzaq: for data cd nautilus works here whithout problems07:33
Dr_Willisthats all i use.07:33
urobMy second problem always in the installation of the modem adsl is this: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/261807:33
naliothDr_Willis: here are the hoary ones http://www.giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/07:34
Dr_WillisHmm.. actually makes ya wonder what the diff in the package would be for breezy or the others.07:34
urobWhen it will be possible to get the answers'07:34
dmacdonald111On wireless, it is set up correctly in mepis, so, would I be able to copy the setup files over to ubuntu for these to work?07:34
Dr_Willisits just a dir with a bunch of dll's when i looked in the package07:34
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evianAdmiralSenn: that's what fsck says?07:34
AdmiralSennyes07:34
evianor what the man page says07:34
evianoh07:34
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AdmiralSennshould I do e2fsck -p?07:35
erUSULdmacdonald111: if mepis is debian like it should work.07:35
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evianyeah, but you have to unmount the partition first07:35
Alvino_O07:35
AdmiralSennit's not mounted anyway07:35
evianok07:35
Alvin'lo people07:35
AdmiralSennI'm on my livecd07:35
evianyeah try the -p option07:35
valzaqor u can use the ubuntu live cd and then do the fsck07:35
AdmiralSenn... great, it says the same thing as last time07:35
dmacdonald111erUSUL: yes, mepis is debian based. Thank you for that. I'll see if I can find all the files to copy across.07:35
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AdmiralSennevian, should I message you the output?07:36
eviansure, although I'm not an expert, I'm curious07:36
BurgerMannin order to get mysql+php+apache to work together, what must I install first?07:36
erUSULdmacdonald111: maybe just looking for hints in the configuration files is a wiser idea... anyway make backups of the old files07:36
sunshinedoes anyone know how i can get w32codecs#07:37
Alvincareful, IRC kicks if you paste a lot of lines07:37
Alvinit thinks it's spam07:37
AstralJavajpfarias: So you say it blanks out when you're working on your machine? There's not even a minute of a break? I noticed that xscreensaver on my Hoary machine goes blank after a minute or so, even if I set it to 10 minutes.07:37
valzaqi recently had problems with my netcard modules everything was workin fine, i rebooted the computer and then the modules started failing07:37
AdmiralSennthat's why I'm using PM's07:37
AlvinAh07:37
Alvinsorry =P07:37
AdmiralSennno problem07:37
jpfariasAstralJava, it goes black no matter I'm working or not =(07:37
AlvinHey, anyone know why ubuntu 5.04 won't detect my sound card?07:37
AstralJavajpfarias: So it could just be an xscreensaver bug, or something else. I'm sorry I never figured that one out, just set it to 100 minutes and the problem went away. Can't help you further...07:37
dmacdonald111erUSUL: Thank you. I shall have a hunt and see what I can find. Thanks for the tip on making backups! I always forget to do that. lol07:38
jpfariasAstralJava, ok07:38
athasunshine: I think the link for the .deb has been pasted couple of times in a last 5 minutes07:38
erUSULAlvin: it depends on your soundcard07:38
jpfariasAstralJava, the funny thing about it is that I've disabled the screensaaver07:38
sunshinei've had the deb i've download it but the files are unknown07:38
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naliothsunshine: unknown to what?07:38
athawhat applications says that the files are unknown?07:38
linuksoHi! Any gaim users here :)? How can I unblock an msn contact in gaim?07:39
AlvinOh oh! pick me!07:39
AstralJavajpfarias: Well then, that's outta the question. :) I have no idea what else could be causing it, sorry...07:39
sunshinethe file type are classified as unknown so they would not run07:39
AlvinI know07:39
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jpfariasAstralJava, thanks07:39
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linuksofound it!07:39
naliothsunshine: how did you try to run them?07:39
athasunshine: .deb's are not meant to be run as themselves, but installed with dpkg -i file.deb07:39
naliothsunshine: from a terminal07:40
AdmiralSennevian, I'm going to make a second ext2 partition in some free space and see if I can use that superblock07:40
urobeihh!!!!!!!!! Is there someone ? Is this ufficial support of ubuntu ? or have I wasted time to write only ?07:40
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Alvinwoah, the gaim website died07:40
Alvinx.x07:40
evianok, that's beyond me, sorry07:40
eviangood luck!07:40
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AdmiralSennheh07:40
AdmiralSennit's beyond me too!07:40
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AdmiralSennbut thanks07:40
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Alvinapt-get fridge pie07:41
evianAdmiralSenn, did you try the e2fsck -b 8193 <device>07:41
Alvin>.>07:41
AdmiralSennyeah07:41
urobHow function this system of help ?07:41
evianok07:41
AstralJavaAlvin: Which card is it? Have you checked whether it can be found on this website: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/ ?07:41
AdmiralSennbut that number is supposed to be the block it starts on and I don't know that07:41
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AlvinAstralJava: Not sure, I'll check in a moment07:41
erUSULurob: i do not have a dsl modem i can not help you... the error message you pasted said something about modules not loaded try loading them07:42
PShiversUrob: here you can ask anyone about anything, this is non-official and noone will be respinsible if you screw your PC07:42
AlvinIt's an old PC, 6 years old07:42
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bluekeyis their a file browser like nautilus but that has a "address" bar07:42
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XHKI finally got itnernet in linux!!!07:42
AdmiralSennnow to see if I can find the first block in that partition07:42
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XHKwoohooooo07:42
Alvinbluekey: go to edit > prefs07:43
XHKThx to the guy who told me 'poff' command lol07:43
dmacdonald111XHK: Well done! Don't suppose you have a wireless network?07:43
hanslooks like nonsens to me07:43
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B_166-ER-XXHK,  wasnt that hard for me, i just booted after my first instal..07:43
Alvinthen click.. behaviour07:43
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XHK:P07:43
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Alvinand check `Always open in browser windows'.07:43
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Alvingot that, bluekey?07:43
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sambagirlis there help in configuring say a domain for your computer like say i wanting to do nomadraidio.net at a pc on my network is there help setting up server thing?07:44
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Alvinsambagirl: you need to buy a domain07:44
sambagirli have domains07:44
Alvinah07:44
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sambagirlbut i want to host them at home07:44
Alvinthen check how to forward the Ip to it07:44
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sambagirlso i can do my raido streaming at home see?07:44
AlvinIP*07:44
urobPShiver :  ok ......07:44
sambagirlahh07:44
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sambagirlso you forward the ip that is how you do it.07:45
sambagirlaha07:45
Alvinyeah07:45
Alvinbut is your IP static?07:45
urobPSHiver: do another UBUNTU !!!!07:45
valzaqor you can make a virtual host in apache07:45
Alvinif it's dnamic like mine, no luck07:45
bluekeyAlvin: one sec testing07:45
Alvindymanic07:45
Alvinok07:45
AdmiralSenn*dynamic07:45
XHKCan i get somehow to my windows files from linux?07:45
sambagirlthat is what i want a virtual host07:45
Alvinhaha07:45
Alvinyeah, dynamic =P07:45
nalioth!tell XHK about windowsdrives07:45
valzaqu should configure a dns server like mydns07:46
PShiversUrob ??07:46
XHKty07:46
AlvinXHK: yeah, you could host it on a website, shove it on a pen drive or burn it to a DVD/CD(s)07:46
sambagirlyes dynamic unless i buy static from isp07:46
AdmiralSennbah07:46
AdmiralSennhave to boot into windows now07:46
AdmiralSenn>_<07:46
sambagirlyes i remember mydns from many years ago07:46
erUSULsambagirl: what to do depends... do you have a public static ip or dinamic one07:46
bluekeyAlvin: that is checked already..07:46
Alvinoh07:46
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Alvinrestart nautilus07:46
sambagirldynamic07:46
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bluekeyi mean a address bar i can like type in where i want to go to07:46
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bluekeyinstead of having to browse using the icons07:46
Alvinok07:47
Alvinwait..07:47
sambagirlit changes i guess eventhough it is always connected to the thing you know.07:47
athabluekey: hit ctrl-l and you've got an address bar in nautilus07:47
sunshinenal li try it again what the deb website07:47
Alvinview > location bar07:47
uroberUSUL: my second modem is ethernet !!07:47
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sambagirlanother thing is that my workspace on bototm of my task bar just dissapeared. i want it back but it's gone now forever.07:47
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Alvinright click > add07:48
Alvinfind workspace manager07:48
naliothsunshine: hoary or breezy?07:48
snorksfind a way to start gnome-panel'07:48
snorksi dont think that's smar07:48
snorkserr07:48
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snorksfind a way to start gnome-panel07:48
athaurob: it seems that you have a working ethernet interface already?07:48
bluekeyatha: that works good. any way to have it always start like that07:48
snorksyou have no idea how much i have to read07:49
snorkswrong channel07:49
Alvinbluekey: view > location bar07:49
erUSULurob: so? what do you mean?07:49
sunshinebreezy07:49
urobatha: yes and on other distro is all ok !!07:49
naliothsunshine: http://giannaros.org/tor/bt/07:49
Alvinlala07:49
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AlvinI'm bored, gcc exploded07:49
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erUSULsambagirl: add another one. right click on the bar and add07:50
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Alvino.o07:50
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cyrilleou07:50
AlvinerUSUL: I said already >_>07:50
bluekeyalvin: location bar is open. ctrl+L makes it so the buttons showing where you are change to a address thing you can type in07:50
ibuntuAnyone here know if gtkpod is any good?07:50
uroberUSUL: it means that i don't succeedin installing two anybody07:51
bluekeybut every time i start nautilus i have to CTRL+L again07:51
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Alvinhmm07:51
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cyrillecoucou07:51
sambagirlwow your brillliant07:51
sambagirlit worked07:51
Alvinme?07:51
Alvino.o07:51
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sambagirloui07:51
Alvinbash: bored07:51
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erUSULurob: for the ethernet one have you tried pppoeconf?07:51
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Alvinubuntu is awesome on my old '9807:52
Alvin<3 some african programmer dudes07:52
athabluekey: I think i found a solution07:52
uroberUSUL:obviousli yes !!!!!07:52
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sambagirl3 african programmer did this software? wow. salut!07:52
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Alvinno?07:52
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Alvinit was a very misleading joke07:53
erUSULsambagirl: ???07:53
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sambagirlumm07:53
Alvinyay, gcc = work07:53
sambagirljooke?07:53
athabluekey: run gconf-editor, open apps-nautilus-preferences, check always_use_location_entry07:53
Alvinjoke07:53
bluekeythankee you07:53
erUSULurob: i have a 56k connection and can ony offer limited help here... sorry07:53
sambagirlyou not think 3 african programmers existing?\07:53
evianI found the answer to how to make my printer print high quality, in case anyone cares. I switched the driver from hpjis to gimp-print.07:53
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dabearhi, I desperately need a net limiter for ubuntu (e.g. restricting the system to download at a max of 30kbps), is this possible?07:54
evianand now its perfect07:54
Alvinno07:54
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Alvinim just saying, ubuntu is not made by africans as far as I know07:54
uroberUSUL: ok heartfull Thanks07:54
sambagirlyou think there are not 3 african programmers in the world?07:54
Alvinof course there are07:54
sambagirlah07:54
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sambagirldo you konw Theodore and Simon? Dave? :)07:55
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bbwolfalvinnn!07:55
Alvino.o?07:55
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dabear hi, I desperately need a net limiter for ubuntu (e.g. restricting the system to download at a max of 30kbps), is this possible?07:55
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bbwolferm-- not you-- i was referring to the 3rd chipmunk07:55
sambagirlheh07:56
sskkHow do I add a new path to a $PATH variable for all users, including root? (sound elementary, but I can't make it work from /etc/profile)07:56
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erUSULdabear: maybe with traffic-shaper?07:56
dabeari'' try it now07:56
sambagirlok so i need to do a prepreation thing first. 1st i need to setup apache07:56
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sambagirlthen mydns07:56
Alvinyea07:56
revarcCould anyone help me with installing nvidia drivers for and fx5900 on breezy?  I've tried using the nvidia-glx that comes with breezy, and have also compiled from the official nvidia linux drivers (both 7676 and 7667) nothing has worked.07:56
sambagirlthen i can try to access or ask someone to access07:56
Alvinwhat OS are you running? ubuntu?07:56
Alvinits not that easy07:56
ubuntuhi07:56
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Alvin'lo ubuntu07:57
eviansskk, perhaps in a boot script?07:57
dabearhm,  traffic-shaper isn't in the repos...07:57
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ubuntusorry bout the nick im on kubuntu livecd, im usually gazam07:57
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Alvinah, ok07:57
ubuntubeing on kde makes me appreciate gnome much more :P07:57
AlvinKDE is crap on a stick.07:57
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ubuntuagreed :D07:57
WinZ))07:57
erUSULdabear: is a kernel module google around a bit07:57
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Alvin<3 GNOME07:57
AlvinK = lose07:58
chris__hello people;)07:58
ubuntu:P couldnt say it better myself07:58
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egoplastieki'm using amsn, i'm trying to dock it, but it won't show up in the notification area07:58
ubuntuhey chris_07:58
Alvinhmm07:58
egoplastieksame with workpace (anti-rsi)07:58
Alvinhi chris07:58
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egoplastiekwhat can i do about it07:58
egoplastiek?07:58
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bluekeyis their any way to get a xerox multifunction printer thats on the network to work without linux drivers for it?07:58
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havocdabear: 'tc', which is used by traffic shapers such as wondershaper (packaged as wshaper or something)07:58
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ubuntuegoplastiek, i was testing out amsn yesterday, you need to go into its preferences and set it to show in the task bar07:59
naliothhavoc: not 'trickle' ?07:59
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sambagirlis apache already turned on?07:59
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havocnalioth: I run wondershaper (wshaperx), which is justa  script which calls 'tc'07:59
revarc(EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA graphics device!07:59
revarc(EE) NVIDIA(0):  *** Aborting ***07:59
revarc(II) UnloadModule: "nvidia"07:59
revarc(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.07:59
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Alvindo people use root here? or user accounts?07:59
naliothrevarc: no pasting08:00
revarcsorry08:00
nalioth!tell Alvin about root08:00
egoplastiekubuntu, which part of the settings? (bad ui design ;) )08:00
sambagirlwow bit turrent is here08:00
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evianbluekey, perhaps you could use network printing via another machine with another OS on the network?08:00
sylvuhi08:00
SuperNinjaKittyAlvin i use a user acct about 98% of the time08:00
naliothlinner: howdy08:00
sambagirlwow this softwear has it all except for petro for my xjs-v1208:00
Alvinubotu: uhh, noes?08:00
ubotuAlvin: What?08:00
Alvinyou can use root too08:00
sambagirlhow do you turn on apache?08:01
ubuntuegoplastiek, i know :P but unfortunately i dont have it on this system so cannot guide you through it perfectly, but search for something to do with taskbar or starterbar etc. sorry08:01
linnernalioth:  hey :)08:01
havocsambagirl: /etc/init.d/apache start08:01
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SuperNinjaKittyAlvin there is no reason to use root as your day to day use08:01
bluekeyevian: is it possible to print through my windows  xp pro box from ubuntu?08:01
sambagirlthans Major Havoc08:01
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egoplastiekubuntu, in the tools menu there is a submenu 'docking', is that what you mean? that part is already configured08:01
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AlvinSuperNinjaKitty: i know08:02
AlvinI just wondered08:02
ubuntu:P it probably is, maybe i can get amsn on this system i will try, although installing software to a live cd is not so good :/08:02
Alvinblarp08:02
evianbluekey: I was thinking that it was, however now I only see the reverse situation described on the wiki08:02
SuperNinjaKittymost linux users i know wouldnt think of using root all the time, bad policy08:02
egoplastiekby the way, i was mentioning that workpace also won't dock08:02
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sambagirlhavoc saying no directory of file08:02
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evianbluekey: still I sorta suspect that it is possible08:03
AlvinSuperNinjaKitty: yeah08:03
bluekeyok08:03
Alvinbut.. why?08:03
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ubuntuegoplastiek... i cant get amsn at the moment, and i do not know anything about workplace, so sorry about that... I will search the amsn website maybe i can find something08:03
sylvuhi everybody08:03
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havocsambagirl: you're sure you have apache installed?  I don't think it is by default08:03
sylvupls help me08:03
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Alvinsylvu: yes?08:03
sambagirlahah08:03
sambagirlahh08:03
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sambagirlok08:03
erUSULsambagirl: maybe it is not yet installed08:03
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egoplastiekubuntu, it's workpace. just fyi. maybe you'll like it. to prevent RSI.08:03
sambagirlno it is not installed08:03
sambagirlsorry08:04
sambagirl;)08:04
havocsambagirl: no problem :)08:04
ubuntuegoplastiek, i will look it up thanks08:04
egoplastiekthanks for your help ubuntu, i'll continue the googlesearch :)08:04
sylvu i want to install asterisk in ubuntu...is it possible?08:04
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havocsylvu: everything is possible ;)08:04
sambagirlwhere would i install it from archive manager?08:04
evianbluekey: I should think that at the worst, you could print to a postscript file and use something like VNC to operate the winxp machine to print it08:04
Alvinhavoc: took the words out of my mouth08:04
sambagirlno add/remove programs08:04
havocsambagirl: "apt-get install apache1" is one way08:04
evianbluekey: but there probably is an easier setup08:05
havocsambagirl: or you can use a GUI software manager like 'aptitude'08:05
sambagirli try that fro breezy lol no such luck08:05
sambagirllet me try08:05
Alvinsambagirl: applications > system tools > add/rm programs08:05
athabluekey: just share the printer on XP computer and use samba to print from linux08:05
havocsambagirl: under the System menu somewhere in either gnome or kde08:05
ubuntuno problem egoplastiek, i gotta go for a while but i will be back, your gonna have to link me to workplace later, it is a very general word to google search for :P08:05
havocAlvin: thanx08:05
revarcCould anyone help me with installing nvidia drivers for and fx5900 on breezy?  I've tried using the nvidia-glx that comes with breezy, and have also compiled from the official nvidia linux drivers (both 7676 and 7667) nothing has worked.  (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA graphics device! (EE) NVIDIA(0):  *** Aborting *** (II) UnloadModule: "nvidia" (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.08:06
havocI'm not actually on my breezy workstation right now08:06
theooHi can you help me config my laptop that was just installed with ubuntu. the installation progress can't automatically defect my ethernet card ... so now I need to manually config or install a new driver or something ..08:06
puffhm, can somebody advise me on changing screen resolution?08:06
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sambagirli did apt-get install apache it is working now08:06
havocrevarc: a lot of xorg stuff in breezy is still messed up08:06
sambagirlthanks then i try that install thingy08:06
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Alvinpuff: system > prefs > screen res08:06
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sambagirl/etc/init.d/apache/ apache start08:07
sambagirlsomething like that i th9nk08:07
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havocsambagirl:  /etc/init.d/apache start08:07
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WinZ/etc/init.d/apache start08:07
puffAlvin: Yeah, I'm trying that... it causes weirdness, the screen gets displayed with odd shadows on parts of it, blocks of it moved aorund etc.08:07
havocsambagirl: <tab> completion is your friend08:07
sambagirlthanks major havoc\08:07
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evianbluekey: take a look at this: http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2005/01/13/lnxckbk_samba.html08:08
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evianapparently it is possible with samba08:08
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puffAlvin: It worked fine last month, I reinstalled hoary last week because I was having kernel flakiness, and now it does this...08:08
revarcSo I guess the best solution to my problem is is to wait until xorg is better and continue to use nv instead of nvidia?08:08
havocpuff you could try dpkg-reconfigure on the x server08:08
B_166-ER-Xhi, i would need some help to install / configure my nvidia drivers08:08
erUSULubotu: nvidia08:09
ubotumethinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia08:09
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sambagirlshould i restart services?08:11
sambagirlhavoc?08:11
sambagirlhavoc should i restart services?08:11
rontidihi folks08:11
sambagirlhi rontidi08:11
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EppuHey, anyone know where the opengl manual pages are in Breezy? Can't seem to find the proper package to install.08:11
theooHi can you help me config my laptop that was just installed with ubuntu. the installation progress can't automatically defect my ethernet card ... so now I need to manually config or install a new driver or something ..08:11
rontidia newbie here08:11
havocsambagirl: what services?08:11
sambagirlhaha08:11
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sambagirlit says inetd samba rsync apache2 cupsys postfix cron08:12
evianI have solved about 10 problems recently with the help of you good folks. I just have one left: skype and sound won't play together yet08:12
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havocsambagirl: ah, sure, restart them08:12
crimsunevian, that's unsolvable currently.08:12
sambagirloh08:12
havocsambagirl: it's an install script asking you this?08:12
eviancrimsun: oh08:12
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eviancrimsun: well thanks for trying with me before08:12
sambagirlso apache is starting or something?08:13
crimsunevian, well, let me amend that: It's unsolvable without much hacking.08:13
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eviancrimsun: ok, I was going to ask, because, sky was working for me under mandrake on this same machine08:13
evianskype08:13
ryufreakanyone help me, i can't get my x800xl pci-e card to work08:13
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sunshinenow that w32codec is installed it keep disconnected my internet browser08:14
eviancrimsun: would you be so kind as to tell me the root problem?08:14
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erUSUL!tell ryufreak about ati08:14
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crimsunevian, err, do you mean Skype doesn't work at all?08:14
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sunshineand my mplayer isn't working08:15
eviancrimsun: it launches, but I can't get it to make a sound08:15
eviancrimsun: echo123 test is silent08:15
evianevian: but other K sound apps like Kaffeine, work08:15
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ryufreakhow do i find out what kernel version i have?08:17
eviancrimsun: but other K sound appls like Kaffeine, work08:17
eviancrimsun: I was going to give you the output of amixer last night after deleting asound.conf, but I had to run to make an appointment08:18
naliothryufreak: in a terminal, type "uname -a"08:18
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Balduranhello08:18
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theooHi can you help me config my laptop that was just installed with ubuntu. the installation progress can't automatically defect my ethernet card ... so now I need to manually config or install a new driver or something ..08:19
puffhavoc: interesting...08:20
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evianmaybe I should try some other internet phone than skype. its just that skype seemed to have the best quality. any recommendations for competitors?08:20
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ryufreakthanks nalioth and erUSUL08:20
ryufreaknow how do i get my w32codec to work?08:21
puffhavoc: How disruptive is "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", will I have to exit and restart applications, etc?08:21
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havocpuff: you'll have to restart the xserver08:21
Dr_Willis well if you want the changes to actually take affect.. yes. :P08:21
havocpuff: all it does is re-write xorg.conf08:21
puffhavoc: Will that in turn require restarting emacs, mozilla, etc.?08:21
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Dr_Willisyou may (should) backup your existing/working xorg.conf.08:22
crimsunevian, sorry, I'm juggling work and irc, so give me a sec to read scrollback, please.08:22
havocyou can run it from a term in X, but you won't see a change until you restart X08:22
puffI.e. is this something I can try right now, or should I wait until I'm at a good stopping point?08:22
havocpuff: wait, since restarting X means "logging out" and then back in08:22
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eviancrimsun: sure, just ignore the part where I was losing it and started talking to myself :)08:22
crimsunevian, ok, so you're using KDE?08:22
amorphis it possible to update ubuntu to kernel 2.6.13 and to gnome 2.12 ?08:22
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sunshineim tryin to access a site that requested me to have w32 codecs but now everytime i go to the website it disconnect my innternet browser08:22
eviancrimsun, no08:22
eviancrimsun, but when it was working in mandrake I had both KDE and gnome installed08:23
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puffhavoc: Thanks, I'll try that later then.08:23
havocpuff: np :)08:23
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eviancrimsun: perhaps if I installed kubuntu it would work, but I don't want to mess up ubuntu, I don't know how well they play together08:24
chophelp problem whle installing warcraft 3 (use wine)08:24
havocevian: installing kde won't mess up anything08:24
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chophelp problem whle installing warcraft 3 (use wine)08:24
porkohola08:24
chophelp problem whle installing warcraft 3 (use wine)08:24
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porkohay alguno de habla hispana?08:24
havockick08:24
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evianhavoc: thanks, do you think it might help skype to work?08:25
chophelp problem whle installing warcraft 3 (use wine)08:25
NoUsechop you need to be more specfic to get help08:25
casHi, I'm looking for a ftp client that supports TLS/SSL. A Graphical frontend would be nice. Does anyone knows one?08:25
havocevian: no clue, I've never used skype08:25
chop[LethAL] : help08:25
evianok08:25
chopstill stuck08:25
[LethAL] wHAT WAS YOUR PROBLEM?08:25
[LethAL] Ooops08:25
tearHi, I just switched screen and Now I can't set resolution to more then 102408:25
chop[LethAL] : wait08:25
tearI know the screen handles more08:26
[LethAL] tear, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:26
sunshinewhat do i do08:26
porkohow can i change the resoltion of my screen??08:26
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[LethAL] porko, System, Preferences, Screen resolution08:26
porkoto 1280x80008:26
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crimsunevian, does sound work normally outside of Skype?08:27
evianyes!08:27
porkook, but that resolution no exist08:27
[LethAL] !tell crimsun about skype08:27
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crimsun[LethAL] , no, I'm helping evian, but thanks.08:27
havocporko: then "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", and then restart X08:27
[LethAL] Oh... :P08:27
evianthanks LethAL but I already know about that stuff08:27
porkook08:27
[LethAL] My bad... I'm asleep08:28
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havocbusy here today08:28
BurgerMannWhy's the ubuntu cd sometimes needed to install certian things?.. like for instance gcc?08:28
havocBurgerMann: edit apt prefs08:28
[LethAL] BurgerMann, because they haven't been updated since you installed08:28
BurgerMannoh08:29
havocBurgerMann: /etc/apt/sources.list08:29
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sambagirlhavoc it says starting webserver apache i08:29
[LethAL] BurgerMann, Yes, you should remove your CD08:29
havocBurgerMann: comment out the line for the CD, 1st one I think08:29
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BurgerMann[LethAL]  & havoc: thx both :)08:29
heatxsinkany problems with this latest update in breezy/08:29
heatxsink?08:29
havocsambagirl: that's what you wanted, right?08:29
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sambagirlyes so now how do i aceess the panel or configuratoin thingy?08:30
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moparfan90is there a package for americas army?08:30
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[LethAL] moparfan90, google08:30
havocsambagirl: I'm not sure what ubuntu comes with as far as a GUI apache configuration tool08:30
sambagirloh no08:30
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crimsunBurgerMann, because you still have the deb-cdrom listing in /etc/apt/sources.list08:30
crimsunBurgerMann, comment it out and update08:30
moparfan90no a ubuntu package08:30
crimsunevian, what is the default audio sink configured as in System> Preferences> Multimedia Systems Selector?08:30
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[LethAL] moparfan90, If it's there, yes, if not, no08:31
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havoccrimsun: we already told him :)08:31
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BurgerMannOhh that's so sweeet!08:31
sambagirlbrb08:31
Belutzsambagirl, you might want to install webmin then08:31
EppuAnyone know where the opengl manual pages are in Breezy? I have them on my hoary system, but not on breezy.08:31
BurgerMannSWEET!08:31
sambagirldo i do apt-get webmin ?08:31
moparfan90well i was looking for a 'yes' or 'no' if you dont know then you shouldnt say anything08:32
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naliothEppu: look in file:///usr/share/docs/08:32
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s_wartanyone know the secret to getting vncserver (or tightvncserver) to work on breezy?08:32
[LethAL] sambagirl, search for it in Synaptic, there's a lot of related packages08:32
eviancrimsun, they are both set to ALSA08:32
sambagirlhow do i do that?08:32
[LethAL] sambagirl, no gui?08:32
Belutzsambagirl, yes, and you could search more with 'webmin' as a keyword, there's a lot of plugin for webmin08:32
Eppunalioth: nope, not there. Just some python-opengl pages08:32
sunshinecan someone please help me fix this i've download w32codec from dpkg and wen i go to a website that requested it it disconnected my internt browser08:32
s_wartmy 1.log file is completely empty. I modified the script to use xorg.conf, but still no luck08:33
havoc[LethAL] : tell her to menu path to get to synaptic08:33
sambagirlwhat is synaptic?08:33
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eviancrimsun: I actually just heard skype make a ring sound, on the echo test but still no voices08:33
Eppunalioth: I also tried apt-file search, but it didn't find them either on Breezy. On hoary they show up fine08:33
naliothubotu tell sambagirl about synaptic08:33
havocnalioth: thanx :)08:33
BurgerMannhmn. It says that gcc cannot create executables ? :S08:33
naliothEppu: not sure then08:33
concept10How do I remove some of the default packages in breezy without removing the gnome-desktop?  for ex.  evolution, rhythmbox, serpentine08:33
havocI'm runnign KDE, not gnome, so I can't tell her the path08:33
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eviancrimsun: but now the second time I try the echo test after launching, skype says "problem with sound service"08:34
havocsynaptic is jsut a gui package amnager like aptitude?08:34
sunshinejava is doing the same thing08:34
puffInteresting, the ntop package appears to have permission problems.08:34
[LethAL] havoc, tes08:34
sunshinenal help please08:34
crimsunevian, ok. That's probably due to a program hogging the sound device.08:34
havoc[LethAL] : ok08:34
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sambagirlwhat is aptitude?08:34
[LethAL] yes*08:34
sambagirlwhere i find these things?08:34
sambagirlfind08:34
eviancrimsun: oh ok that's interesting08:34
sunshinesomeone help please08:34
naliothsambagirl: a console frontend to apt-get08:34
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nalioth!tell sunshine about cli08:35
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havocsynaptic is the default apt gui in gnome?08:35
concept10Anyone know how to get the gnome-desktop package to _remained installed_08:35
havoc(gnome on ubuntu that is)08:35
EppuIt might be related to the mesa/opengl reorganization. In hoary the pages are provided by xlibmesa-gl-dev but that package does not exist in breezy.08:35
[LethAL] havoc, yes08:35
sambagirlgrr08:35
sambagirlnothing simple08:35
havocsambagirl: look for synaptic in the menus, likely under System somewhere08:36
desidaerius504I have a question about package compatibility on Ubuntu. Can you install any package compiled for Debian on an Ubuntu system, provided you have all the depencies resolved?08:36
BurgerMannsambagirl: why not?08:36
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chop[LethAL] : im back08:36
[LethAL] havoc, there's also the intuitively named 'Add/Remove Programs'08:36
kennethloveor pop open a terminal and type 'sudo synaptic'08:36
NoUsesambagirl whats complicated about synaptic08:36
havoc[LethAL] : heh, cool08:36
kennethlovedesidaerius504: you should be able to, yeah.08:36
sambagirli wondeirng whree this webmin iis08:36
sunshinenal i dont understand what this is for08:36
BurgerMannWhat's "C compiler default output file name" ? :s08:36
havocNoUse: I don't think she's faound it yet08:36
chop[LethAL] : stuck with wine08:36
[LethAL] havoc, Doesn't have much itn it though08:36
sambagirlwhere in gods name is SYNAPTIC?08:36
sambagirlwww.synaptic.com?08:36
chop[LethAL] : try to install war3 with wine08:36
NoUsesambagirl ubotu messaged you with instructions08:36
sambagirlok08:36
sambagirlthanks08:36
NoUse!tell sambagirl synaptic08:36
[LethAL] sambagirl, System, Administration,. Synaptic08:36
ryufreakmy xorg.config file is read only, how do i get permission to edit it?08:37
naliothsunshine: where did you d/l the files to?08:37
NoUse!tell sambagirl about synaptic08:37
BurgerMannheh08:37
havocryufreak: sudo08:37
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chop[LethAL] : but it it need cd even when i crack it08:37
ryufreaksudo -apt-get xorg.config ?08:37
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[LethAL] chop, try the CVS version of Cedega08:37
kennethloveif i wanted to go up to gnome 2.12 before warty comes out (i know, i know, just a week or two), any easy way to do that?08:37
havocryufreak: you editing it manually or with dpkg-reconfigure?08:37
sunshinehttp://giannaros.org/tor/bt/ the website you gave me08:37
[LethAL] !tell chop about cedega08:37
ryufreakmanually..?08:37
puffhttp://pastebin.com/37705008:38
logan001101thanks guys08:38
s_wartanyone have any advice on breezy vnc, or is the easy answer to roll back to hoary if I really need it?08:38
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havocryufreak: what are you trying to do?08:38
logan001101[LethAL] : logan = chop08:38
evians_wart: vnc doesn't work in breezy?08:38
sunshineit seem like a waste the files just collaspe the internet browser08:38
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ryufreakedit the xorg.config file to read drivers for my x800xl08:38
[LethAL] logan001101, [LethAL]  = away08:38
Danglyhow can i use apt-get to search for a package I would like?08:38
s_wartevian: not for me. it quietly fails. been trying to get it to work since the weekend08:38
havocryufreak: you don't use apt-get for that08:38
logan001101[LethAL] : :D08:38
Eppus_wart: I haven't had any problems with vnc on breezy08:38
Danglywhat do i use?08:39
ryufreakhow do i open it so i can actually edit it?08:39
evians_wart: oh I didn't know that08:39
kennethlovedangly - apt-get search <package name>08:39
havocryufreak: you know how to use vim?08:39
ryufreakhavoc, no08:39
havochmm08:39
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logan001101[LethAL] : so what can i do???08:39
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NoUsekennethlove you mean apt-cache08:39
s_wartevian: I installed it using apt-get. maybe I am missing the user-friendly way of doing it08:39
[LethAL] logan001101, try it with cedega... like ubotu messaged you08:39
logan001101[LethAL] : ok08:39
NoUsedangly apt-cache search <keyword>08:40
kennethloveyeah.08:40
ThJhey, what's the best and simplest way of telling apache to listen only on a certain IP?08:40
havocryufreak: sudu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf &08:40
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logan001101[LethAL] : like ubotu messaged you --> what does it mean??08:40
[LethAL] logan001101, try the links he gave08:40
havocryufreak: be very careful not to save changes unless you're sure you know what you're doing though08:41
ryufreakhavoc, i've already created a backup08:41
havocryufreak: smart man :)08:41
EppuThj: put BindAddress 127.0.0.1 in the config?08:41
sskkHas anybody experienced problems with the boot splash screen in the 5.10 prerelease?08:41
[LethAL] logan001101, On the second site, it says that RoC and tFT both work fine08:41
desidaerius504ryufreak, you may want to make a backup copy of xorg.conf08:41
eviancrimsun: I gotta run to another appointment, thanks for trying to help me08:41
evianbye08:41
desidaerius504oops, didn't see that yet :-p08:41
logan001101[LethAL] : but08:42
[LethAL] ?08:42
logan001101[LethAL] : it needs CD08:42
ThJEppu: hm08:42
logan001101[LethAL] : even when i've cracked it08:42
sambagirlmy msn works now :D08:42
ryufreakyeah, i have already made a copy desidaerius504 =x08:42
sambagirlhaha08:42
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sambagirlthis is way cool08:42
logan001101[LethAL] : ok ill try again08:42
[LethAL] logan001101, The cedega wiki doesn't say it needs a no-cd crack08:42
Zeke1can someone help me to get my ati working08:42
sunshinenal what do i do now08:42
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havoc!tell Zeke1 about ati08:43
havocyay, got it right :)08:43
naliothsunshine: where did you d/l the files to?08:43
havocZeke1: you get that?08:44
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s_wartEppu: the version of vncserver I have seems to assume XFree - is there a specific version I should be using?08:44
Danglywhere can i find acroread for ubuntu 5.10 ?08:44
tearIs there anyway to override the reolution settings for ubuntu?08:44
dpro\Dangly, sudo apt-get install acroread08:44
havoctear: "override"?08:45
concept10Dangly, or use the supplied application 'evince'08:45
Danglycant find package acroread08:45
sunshinehttp://giannaros.org/tor/bt/ thew website u gave me08:45
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Danglyis there a repo that has acroread 7.xx for 5.10?08:46
naliothsunshine: where on YOUR box did you download TO ?08:46
havocDangly: you could just download and install it yourself from adobe.com08:46
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Eppus_wart: hmm, I haven't actually used the separate vncserver on breezy, just shared my gnome desktops. Do you really need a separate vnc display?08:47
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XHKHow do i install rpm file?08:47
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kennethloveXHK: use alien08:47
naliothXHK: what program do you want?08:47
naliothXHK: rpms can cause problems08:48
XHKHmn08:48
s_wartEppu: the breezy machine is upstairs and I'm down here on the laptop with only console access08:48
XHKhow can i install tar then08:48
Lars_Gnalioth: Anything ending in PMS can cause trouble08:48
s_wartI can go upstairs if I need to but that room is kitted out as a guest room :)08:48
havocXHK: you should already hav tar08:48
naliothXHK: most tar files have readmes or other instructions in them08:48
XHKmhh ok08:48
XHKBut arent rpms easier to isntall?08:49
havocdoh, install a tar *file* :)08:49
Lars_GXHK: tar is default in an ubuntu install (meaning, it should aready be there).08:49
XplOzIoncan any tell me a pretty good HOWTO for Postfix please? PM me please08:49
tristanmikeXHK, try to find a .deb if you can08:49
naliothXHK: this is not redhat. it is ubuntu. ubuntu uses debs08:49
Eppus_wart: only console? Are you trying to use some special svgalib client or something?08:49
havocXplOzIon: http://www.postfix.org/08:49
XHKok08:49
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Lars_GXHK: Only in RPM based system (Redhat, FC, and Mandriva). Else debs are better for you.08:49
XHKhow do i isntall deb then?08:49
havocXplOzIon: look at their docs, many howtos there08:49
naliothXHK: if you tell us the program you want, we can advise a non problematic method of installation08:49
Lars_GXHK: And learning to compile a source will be a plus for the future.08:49
tristanmikeXHK, sudo dpkg -i <file>08:49
s_wartEppu: no, I'm not running ubuntu on the laptop, I'm just connecting via ssh08:49
Lars_GXHK: sudo dpkg -i <file>08:49
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Lars_Gtristanmike: You have a batch of tiotimoline?08:50
eckihello08:50
tristanmikeLars_G, tiotimoline?08:50
Eppus_wart: Ah, but you have graphical system on the laptop? In that case you could just share your breezy desktop and use any vnc client to access it08:50
Lars_Gtristanmike: Sci-fi joke, I meant you traveled into the future to copy my line before I typed it.08:50
sunshinehome08:50
logan001101im living for dying :-O08:51
logan001101im living for dying :-O08:51
XHKAnyway, will the xmms come with ubuntu install?08:51
tristanmikeLars_G, lol, I like Sci-fi, just never heard that term :P08:51
s_wartEppu: ah, I think that's the "user friendly" option I'm missing :)08:51
kennethloveXHK: yeah08:51
sunshinehome/sunshine/ file.deb08:51
XHKBut i cant find it?08:51
logan001101this is the gap between hell and heaven ooooooaaaaaaaaooooooooooooaaaaaaaaa08:51
naliothsunshine: open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg -i name_of_file.deb"08:51
Eppus_wart: Sharing the desktop can be enabled from System->Preferences->Remote Desktop08:51
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Absenthhola.08:51
Lars_Gtristanmike: Tiotimoline is a ficticious element invented by Isaac Asimov, he wrote a complete scientific essay on the substance, it's a substance SO soluble in water, that if you intend to dissolve it in water, it'll travel thorough time to the point in which you will dissolve it.08:51
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XHKWhere is XMMS?08:51
XHKin applications there isnt08:52
Lars_GXHK: /usr/bin08:52
kennethloveXHK: applications -> sound & video -> xmms08:52
s_wartEppu: thanks, I'll go upstairs and try that now :p08:52
tristanmikeLars_G, ahhh, Asimov, I unfortunatly haven't read any of his work :(08:52
XHKther eare ionly music and cd player :S08:52
TimeWaveI am running ubuntu on a thinkpad 600e. The DHCP recognizes and assigns an ip, but it has trouble connecting. It is connecting through an older pcmcia card. Do I need to change the dhcp settings or the settings for the pcmcia?08:52
havocAsimov rules08:52
XplOzIonhavoc: any site with differents HOWTO's?08:52
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havocXplOzIon: not that I know of08:52
kennethloveXHK: open a terminal, type 'sudo apt-get install xmms'08:52
XHKok ty08:52
havocXplOzIon: they not have what you need?08:52
Absenthwatching etherape is addictive.08:53
Eppus_wart: hope it works. If that's your only display, it should be at machine:008:53
Absenthexpecially while using IRC, and gaim (connected to Y!, AIM, and MSN)08:53
sunshineit say it set up w43codec08:53
XHKPackage xmms is not available, but is referred to by another package.08:53
XHKThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or08:53
XHKis only available from another source08:53
XHKE: Package xmms has no installation candidate08:53
sunshinesorry it say it set up w32codec08:53
naliothXHK: do not paste in here08:53
XHKsorry08:53
naliothXHK: read the channel /topic08:53
tristanmikeXHK, have you enabled repositories?08:54
XHKHmn dont think so08:54
Lars_GXplOzIon: How-tos about what?08:54
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XplOzIonhavoc: Not really, there too confused howto's, and honestly since my born lenguage isnt english im having a hard time understanding em, and cant find what i need in spanish08:54
tearhavoc, I can only set up to 1024 resolution and I now my new monitor handles more08:54
kennethlovewill the breezy install CD work as an upgrade?08:54
tristanmike!tell XHK about repositories08:54
havocXplOzIon: ah, sorry :(08:54
Lars_GXplOzIon: How-tos about what?08:54
naliothubotu: tell tear about fixres08:54
havocLars_G: postfix08:55
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Lars_Ghmmm ok08:55
XplOzIonyeah postfix08:55
havocLars_G: but he's looking for them in spacish preferably08:55
bluekeykennethlove: yes08:55
kennethlovebluekey: good to hear.08:55
havoctear: what kind of card are you using?08:55
havoctear: it's possible you are using the wrong driver08:55
Lars_Ghavoc: Yes I saw that08:55
bluekeykennethlove: u put the cd in and it asks u if you want to upgrade :-)08:55
XplOzIonhavoc i can handle english, but damn, im confused, do you know about postfix?08:56
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tearthe driver for the card should be correct, the old monitor could use 1600 resolution08:56
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havocXplOzIon: I run it for ~200 domains :)08:56
havoctear: what card?08:56
kennethlovebluekey: *evil chuckle* great.08:56
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tearATI Radeon 9700 PRO08:56
tearhavoc,08:56
havocXplOzIon: you may find help on #postfix08:56
havoc!tell tear about ati08:57
logan001101guys, how can i know how many disk space i used?08:57
Lars_GXplOzIon: do you need lots of help?08:57
Lars_GXplOzIon: I'm very busy right now, but I'll try to give you a hand, I'm used to postfix and I speak spanish.08:57
Lars_GXplOzIon: /msg me08:57
havoctear: check the message from ubotu, I too had probs w/ my ATI Radeon 9200SE08:57
XplOzIonLars_G thanks a lot man08:57
Lars_Gnp08:57
sunshinenal it say settin up w32codecs08:57
havocXplOzIon: yeah, better to have Lars_G help, as I *don't* speak spanish :(08:58
Lars_Gsunshine: There is a deb for w32codecs? where? I couldn't find it in multiverse08:58
naliothsunshine: so let it continue (and my nick is nalioth)08:58
naliothLars_G: hoary or breezy?08:58
Lars_Gnalioth: Hoary08:58
havoctear: the flgrx driver should do the trick for you, it worked great for me08:58
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naliothLars_G: http://www.giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/08:58
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Lars_Gnalioth: Arigato godaimazu08:59
sunshinesorry nalioth08:59
s_wartEppu: it works better in the sense that now I get a gray screen with a please wait for desktop to load. should I be using tightvnc or something?08:59
sunshineit finsh09:00
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Eppus_wart: I don't think so. Have you logged in the desktop locally?09:00
concept10What is going on here.. I cant remove any of the default applications without removing the meta-package "ubuntu-desktop" Please someone give me some insight on this.09:01
s_wartEppu: yes. I quit the client and tried connecting again, and it's just timing out now. where does it put the log file?09:01
kennethloveubuntu-desktop started an anti-user movement, so it's being expunged.09:01
sunshinewhat do I do now09:01
concept10kennethlove, are you serious are joking?09:01
naliothsunshine: watch movies and listen to music09:01
Eppus_wart: You definitely do not need tightvnc, I'm using just the normal vncviewer. And I'm not sure it logs anything. Are you starting it from a terminal?09:02
Eppus_wart: Also, are you sure that there are no firewalls between the systems?09:02
kennethloveconcept10: sorry, forgot the sarcasm tag09:02
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sunshineit doesnt work everytime i try it collaspe the internet browser09:02
s_wartEppu no, I'm using the windows client. I don't have a firewall enabled on the windows machine. I've used vnc from here before when I had debian upstairs. does default breezy install include a firewall?09:03
naliothsunshine: what are you trying to do?09:03
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Eppus_wart: No it doesn't. The gray green suggests a wrong display. Did you use the display number zero. As in address:0 ?09:03
Zeke1can someone help me with ati...i have followed the howto instructions and it still wont work..I have an x80009:04
s_wartEppu: yes, but whatever process was giving me the gray screen before doesn't seem to be responding anymore09:04
sunshinewell igot this website i go to and i try to watch there and it collaspe and the same with java i go to yahoo chat the browser collaspe09:05
Eppus_wart: That's weird. The remote desktop sharing should work, as long as you are actually logged in the desktop locally. It just shared that same desktop with remote users.09:05
Eppus_wared: I mean shares09:05
naliothsunshine: perhaps it's a browser problem09:06
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s_wartEppu: I had it working before with hoary. I wasn't crazy about the shared desktop (I really want regular vncserver behavior), but it beats an ssh console :)09:06
sunshinehow do i test it09:06
Zeke1can someone help me with ati...i have followed the howto instructions and it still wont work..I have an x80009:06
Eppus_wart: Might be some issue with breezy then, yep..09:06
naliothsunshine: use another browser09:07
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s_wartEppu: okay, well I'll keep poking around. it's not mission-critical or anything. I'll try and register a bug report if I manage to figure out what's going on09:08
s_wartEppu: thanks for your help09:08
cevizogluwhat kinds of WEP keys does breezy support?  128 bit? 40 bit?09:08
sunshinemozilla is set so what other browser to use and the browser only collaspe when i try to use a java or w32codec website09:09
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Eppus_wart: I tried vncserver on breezy, seems to work. It gives the grey screen, but I do not have any session configured on it09:09
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naliothsunshine: galeon, kazehakase, epiphany09:09
AdmiralSennonce again: is there any way to save an ext2 partition with a damaged superblock without losing all data on it?09:09
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Zeke1does anybody have a 64bit amd and an ATi card...icant get ati to work09:11
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s_wartEppu: I am a moron - the session upstairs was sitting there with a dialog "Another user wants to share your desktop. Allow or Refuse?"09:12
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s_wartdisabled that :)09:12
cevizoglus_wart, no, you're not a moron - that's an unusual default for ubuntu to have09:12
sunshinewhere do i get those from09:13
revarc.09:13
Zeke1havoc, could you help me with my ati...its not working09:13
nerpsunshine, where do you get any of your programs from?09:13
sunshineare u sure it the browser everthing else seems to work in the broswer it only the java and w32codec webpages09:13
nerpsunshine, i have seen 30 people help you with the same issues in the past two days when are you going to stop, think and listen a little bit.09:14
s_wartcevizoglu: it's probably more secure. now I just need to get it to use a bigger screen :)09:14
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havoc!tell Zeke1 about ati09:14
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Eppus_wart: heh, good thing it works then09:14
mikeybanyone know how to check what versions of php and mysql ubuntu is using??09:14
sunshinenerp i've tried what they said it didnt work everyone gave me different advice09:15
Eppus_wart: You can disable that behavior, of course09:15
kennethlovemikeyb: make a .php doc with <? phpinfo(); ?> on it and pull it up in your browser (served by your server, of course)09:15
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arkainiumIs there a way I can get gnome to stop complaining about hal?  I'm disabling hal intentionally and the message gets annoying.09:15
Alvino.o09:15
abarbacciahey - is there a program i can use to change my grub options09:15
Alvinhi guys09:15
sunshinefinally someone give me advice that does work , some computer are different so every advice  I receive i try til i find the one that work on my computer09:15
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athasunshine: are you trying to open videos using browser or what do you mean by opening w32codec webpages09:16
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athahave you tried opening them directly using mplayer09:16
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BiSK-8hello09:16
mikeybthat doesn't tell me what version of mysql i'm using though!09:16
BiSK-8can i install .deb packages with ubuntu?09:16
kennethloveBiSK-8: yep. use dpkg09:16
nerpsunshine, if you were to disable the plugin and select your own player like xine or mplayer i'm pretty sure it would work09:16
BiSK-8how?09:16
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DFStefanmikeyb usualy rpm -q mysql does that .. although i don't know if ubuntu has rpm09:17
kennethloveBiSK-8: i think there's a GUI for it, but in a terminal type 'sudo dpkg -i <package name>'09:17
sunshineatha there is a website that requested i needed w32codec i've downloaded now when i try and access the website the internet browser collaspe09:17
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BiSK-8kennethlove, i downloaded yahoo messanger and typed: dpkg -i ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb, but it gives me error09:17
nerpsunshine, no "webpage" requires w32codecs09:17
sunshinenerp dont worry i dont want to disable the plugin09:17
nerpW32CODECS are for MOVIES not WEBPAGES09:18
kennethloveBiSK-8: you have to have 'sudo' in front. has to be run as root.09:18
BiSK-8ill try09:18
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kennethloveBiSK-8: don't you have gaim installed? it should work fine w/ yahoo09:18
mikeybyea this isn't red hat... so anyone know how to find out what version of mysql is installed?09:18
BiSK-8kennethlove, yes but i need the microphone09:18
s_wartEppu: once I've logged out, how can I start another remote desktop session? Do I need to log in at the console and share it again?09:18
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BiSK-8and09:18
BiSK-8btw09:18
s_wart(sorry if that's a FAQ)09:18
sunshinenerp i know what the website requested w32 so please if you are not going to help please leave me09:18
Skidmikeyb: mysql --version09:18
BiSK-8how can i upgrade 2 the new ubuntu?09:18
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sunshinei'm new to all this09:19
kennethlovemikeyb: php document served by apache (should be installed already)09:19
mikeybthtnks09:19
esac_i can't get 1920x1200 resolution working with my ATI card. I am running the fglrx driver from ati.com with a custom kernel. i have tried everything on the howto/ATI and linked pages with no luck. any help appreciated.09:19
kennethloveBiSK-8: look at the topic.09:19
sunshinei'm just tryin to get my head around it all09:19
nerpsunshine, you must be thick in the head.. webpages do not require win32codecs. period.09:19
deFrysksunshine, u seem to have the java plugin wrongly installed cousing your probs09:19
nerpwin32codecs are FOR MOVIES ONLY09:19
BiSK-8k thx09:19
sunshinenerp the website play movies  music09:20
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sunshineetc...09:20
nerpsunshine, whats the url of the page that asks for win32 codecs?09:20
TimeWaveWhile setting the network, it is telling me the access concentrator is not responding?09:20
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sunshinewww.streamingfaith.com  click kon any program09:20
bam_hey anyone running fluxbox?09:20
nerpbam_ yes09:20
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BiSK-8kennethlove,when i upgrade, does my theme and stuff get deleted? do i lose any data?09:20
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Skidanyone know how to show email threads, in evolution?09:21
bam_seems the repository has an ssue with it09:21
bam_*issue09:21
bam_any other sources?09:21
nerphoary, breezy?09:21
nerphave you done update?09:21
bam_hoary09:21
bam_yup09:21
sunshinedefrysk all i did was download it off the website http://giannaros.org/tor/bt/ and dpkg -i (file) .deb in terminal09:21
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BiSK-8kennethlove, it still dosent work the deb unpackager09:21
BiSK-8kennethlove, it still dosent work the deb unpackager09:21
sunshinewhere did i go wrong09:22
kennethloveBiSK-8: i wouldn't think so, not if you tell it to preserve your home folder. you can always back up /home/<your username>/ before you upgrade09:22
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nerpbam_, whats the issue?09:22
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BiSK-8kennethlove, dunno why, but do i need any software 2 do it?09:22
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kennethloveBiSK-8: PM the error to me.09:22
deFrysksunshine, you went wrong with the java plugin09:22
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bam_this: \ '09:22
bam_Failed to fetch ftp://ftp2.caliu.info/backports/dists/hoary-backports/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file.  '09:22
bam_Failed to fetch ftp://ftp2.caliu.info/backports/dists/hoary-backports/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file.  '09:22
sunshinewhat part i've just explain the process i took09:22
sunshinehow09:23
Eppus_wart: The remote desktop sharing is just for locally logged in displays. If you need a separate display only for remote use, you have to use vncserver.09:23
sunshinetell the right process09:23
avyskHello. Does w32codecs package for amd64 exist?09:23
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nerpsunshine, how did you install java?09:23
deFrysksunshine, how did you link the plugin in the browser ?09:23
bam_any idea's on where else to get it?09:23
s_wartEppu: which takes me back to my original problem :(09:23
Eppus_wart: I am personally just always logged in on my server machine, and use that shared display from other macines.09:23
nerpand sunshine what email do you use to play videos, i'm no going to register for this09:23
piethelp h2 install mplayer??09:23
sunshinenerp http://giannaros.org/tor/bt/09:24
s_wartEppu: I just restarted the server after doing an apt-get dist-upgrade09:24
Eppus_wart: I never had any problems with a separate vncserver display either, but I haven't tried it with breezy.09:24
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nerpsunshine, once you got the torrents what did you do?09:25
Eppus_wart: Do you have your ~/.vnc/xstartup or whatever the file was properly configured?09:25
sunshinebub_bles82@lycos.co.uk09:25
s_wartEppu: it's really what I need, because I want to run an X-based app as a server, but I don't want it to die whenever I log out09:25
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sunshinedpkg -i file.deb09:25
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s_wartEppu: probably that's where I need to go next. I assumed it would "just work" but based on what I've found online, it looks like I need to set up a few things09:25
deFrysksunshine, and di you link the plugin in the plugin folder ?09:26
^majik^how can I use gcc 3.3 or 3.4 instead of gcc 4.0?  I've done installed build-essential along with gcc 4.0.09:26
sunshinedefrysk i dont know how to do that link the plugin09:26
Eppus_wart: Yes, you probably need to configure the server to start the proper things when it starts. That might have changed in the new versions.09:26
BooZeehello. I think I did a mistake, and accidently deleted the KDM from the init.d09:26
s_wartEppu: it's all coming back to me now :)09:26
BooZeehow can I return it to there?09:26
sunshineno i dint link it i didnt know i need to09:26
Eppus_wart: You need to have the session set up and running before you can really use it from remote clients09:27
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deFrysksunshine, does firefox crash on java.com ?09:27
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nerpsunshine, i got to the part where it says can you see the video to the right and I clicked yes and it crashed09:28
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nerpit's kinda a junky made site09:28
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BooZeecan somebody help me fix my KDM problem?09:28
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nerpi've used pelnty of streaming media and never had that occur09:29
deFrysknerp, the site is a mixed mash of scripts and flash09:29
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nerpdeFrysk, indeed09:29
sunshinenerp now we are on the same page so stop callin me a nob09:29
AdmiralSennonce again: is there any way to save an ext2 partition with a damaged superblock without losing all data on it?09:29
teartell me about !ati09:29
oxezhi, I installed the newest updates for breezy this morning, and now when I boot, I get a kernel panic error: "Can't open /scripts/function".. any fixes?09:29
tear!tell me about ati09:29
BooZee!tell me about kdm09:29
soxfunok, I'm registered.09:29
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soxfunnow, how can I unrar my rar files?09:29
nerpsunshine, in my opinion your install is probably fine, the site is the culprit09:30
BooZee!tell me about init.d09:30
deFrysknerp, I agree09:30
soxfunI've installed unrar-free.. but it sends me Failed messages09:30
sunshinenerp say sorry#09:30
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nerpno, because i've still heard you asking the same stuff for two days and i'm still annoyed09:30
nerpi'm not sorry09:30
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sunshinedefrysk how do i check09:30
deFrysksunshine, dont be silly , u should have given that link right away09:30
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sunshineim on the java website09:30
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marco_gHi09:31
deFryskdoes the page work fine ?09:31
nerp"check your java install"09:31
BooZeeHelp needen - KDE09:31
BooZeeneeden=needed09:31
deFrysksunshine, what nerp says , check java install09:31
marco_gI just upgraded my hoary install to breezy and firefox can't start anymore. Is that a known problem?09:31
piethow do i install mplayer ?09:31
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sunshineis that in synapthic09:32
rickyhi everybody...09:32
deFrysksunshine, its on the website09:32
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nerphttp://java.com/en/download/installed.jsp?detect=jre09:32
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nerpbam_, sorry forgot about you09:32
nerpbam_, do you have any version of fluxbox installd?09:32
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benkong2hey folks09:32
snorksyo09:32
epilocOk, so I have this laptop... with nothing but a usb floppy drive ...  how do i get an OS on there?09:33
Eppus_wart: The problem might be something to do with dbus. I tied vncserver, and it seems to hang on dbus-launch process or something09:33
rickyi've a breezy and i've installed kubuntu-artwork-usplash, how can i see a graphical splash ???09:33
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snorksepiloc: install os on it from another comp09:33
epilocHow09:34
s_wartEppu: interesting. I've traced through the wrapper script but haven't been able to debug the binary09:34
snorksepiloc: i assume you need an install media such as cdrom09:34
nerpor do a net install09:34
Alvinanyone know the apt-get command for anjuta?09:34
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deFryskricky, perhaps they know on #kubuntu ?09:34
benkong2i just took the upgrade on breezy to kernel "2.6.12-9-amd64-k8 x86_64" now my beautiful splash is gone and I am getting insmod errors. Any help09:34
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rickyok tks09:34
epilocI have an external cdrom09:34
epilocit is pcmcia though09:34
snorkssorry09:34
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snorksi thought it was usb hd09:34
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sunshineoh i've done it say i have the latest java09:34
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epilocah09:34
sunshine1.509:34
epilocusb floppy09:35
Eppus_wart: One thing to do is to try your own custom session, something very simple with twm or something.09:35
Versedif I install ubuntu on a amd/intel cpu based computer and use an 802.11b, will it auto config the wifi card like it did on my older G4 450?09:35
epilocthe cdrom only takes win9x drivers09:35
deFrysksunshine, java is fine then , blame the poor coding on the site09:35
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sunshineahh but it yahoo chat09:35
epilocso it looks like its gonna be m$dos09:35
snorksepiloc: if you read about linux from scratch, you can get a small system installed via floppy, and then DL the rest you need, building your own distro kinda. takes time and i dont recommend it09:35
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snorksepiloc: you will however gain a lot of knowledge about linux09:35
Eppus_wart: the global configuration is at /etc/vnc.conf and you can put overrides in ~/.vncrc09:35
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naliothepiloc: search wiki.ubuntu.com for smartboot09:36
tearhow do I make Ununtu autoditect my new monitor, I tried changing GFX drivers without results...09:36
sunshinei'll be back my mplayer isn't workin but i have to go to the cashpoint and come back09:36
darklogici just set up a local printer on one computer, what would the uri be so i can set other machines on the network to use that printer?09:37
oxezI installed the newest updates for breezy this morning, and now when I boot, I get a kernel panic error: "Can't open /scripts/function".. any fixes?09:37
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^majik^how can I get gcc 3.3 or 3.4 installed? - I think it's conflicting with gcc 4.0 that's installed09:37
nalioth^majik^: it's not conflicting. you can have many versions of gcc installed09:37
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nalioth^majik^: use synapti to install the gcc version(s) you want09:38
nalioth^majik^: leave gcc-4.0 installed09:38
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s_wartEppu: I created a very basic xstartup file and it still dies without writing any log messages. the entire /etc/vnc.conf file is commented out - I think it gets the fontPath from xorg.conf and everything else looks optional09:38
meezHey, I mounted a fat32 partition on to /data... (via fstab), problem is, I can only write to it via root. I've tried 'chown' and 'chgrp' to no avail, which just give me a "chown: changing ownership of `/data': Operation not permitted" error... Any ideas how I can write to it without root?09:38
^majik^nalioth: ah ok, so, how I differentiate between them when I try to use it (or more specifically, when 'make' uses it)09:38
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athainstead of make, try to use "CC=gcc-3.4 make"09:39
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dereks_debating between 1 dual core opteron or 2 single core ones, what you guys think09:39
^majik^nalioth: ok, I've got gcc 3.4 installed as well09:39
^majik^ah09:39
Eppus_wart: did you change the Xsession variable in /etc/vnc.conf (or .vncrc?)09:39
nalioth^majik^: ask uncle google (i can't remember)09:39
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s_wartEppu: here we go; from /var/log/messages localhost kernel: [878557.535430]  Xtightvnc[27653] : segfault at09:39
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sunshinenerp it turns out the streaming faith website only accept windows media player09:39
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athaor maybe setting the CC variable before running ./configure09:40
Zeke1anybody have problems with ati? i need help09:40
Eppus_wart: Can you try with the normal vnc and not tightvnc?09:40
tear!tell Zekel about ati09:41
sunshinecant i get wine to download exe files09:41
nerpi see09:41
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nalioth^majik^: there is an "export bleh" option you can pass but i forget what it is09:41
deFrysksunshine, download or execute ?09:41
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soxfunhello?09:41
dereks_what happens if i open a virus in wine/09:41
Eppus_wart: I don't think tightvnc is really needed unless you are connecting through a less than 10Mbit link09:41
Zeke1i have installed fglrx but it wont use it...09:41
soxfuncan anyone help me?09:41
nerpdereks_, nothing09:41
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Augustinhello09:41
soxfunI can't unrar my rar files! :S :S09:41
dereks_nerp :)09:41
s_wartEppu: same error, except /var/log/messages says Xrealvnc segfaulted instead09:41
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deFrysksoxfun, get unrar-nonfree09:42
Augustinanyone can spend a couple of minutes helping me with a GRUB problem that arose when installing Breezy please ?09:42
soxfunbut, I can't get it by apt09:42
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soxfunright?09:42
deFrysksoxfun, its available in a repo09:42
Eppus_wart: Yeah, well segfault probably means there is a bug somewhere, if the configuration is otherwise correct.09:42
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nerpAugustin, can try09:42
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deFrysk!info unrar-nonfree09:42
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ubotuunrar-nonfree: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 82 kB, Installed size: 208 kB09:42
atha^majik^: for instance when building wget for instance I ran: "CC=gcc-3.4 ./configure" and configure selected the correct gcc "checking for gcc... gcc-3.4"09:42
nerpjust say what the problem is09:42
soxfunmm I'll try it09:42
soxfunthanks09:42
s_wartEppu: I think I need to go back 20 years to remember how to use gdb :)09:42
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deFrysksoxfun, its in multiverse09:43
ThJhey, i'm trying to bind sshd to one IP address only (my box is in a datacenter and i have several ip's on one interface).09:43
soxfunoh, ok09:43
nikohi09:43
tearmy new monitor is causing problems, it won't use full resolution and the hertz is way to low, Tries updating drivers for GFX card, any more ideas, perhaps reditecting Monitor?09:43
ThJthe problem is, ListenAddress doesn't limit me to one IP.09:43
Eppus_wart: Heh, it might not do you much good anyway, if the debug information has been stripped from the executables.09:43
sunshinedoes anyone know how to work wine09:43
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^majik^atha: ah ok.  lemme try reconfiguring with that09:43
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deFrysktear, find the horiz and vert freq's09:43
s_wartEppu: more progress. sounds like it's a known issue on debian amd6409:43
nerpsunshine, man wine09:43
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deFryskand adjust the settings in your qorg.conf09:44
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Eppus_wart: Are you using amd64?09:44
deFryskxorg*09:44
s_wartEppu: yeah, sorry I forgot to mention that :) it's kind of a hassle actually :)09:44
dmacdonald111Hi. Can anyone help me locate the bcmwl5 to use with ndiswrapper? I have been trawling the internet with no luck :(09:44
^majik^atha: would I also have to do that when I go to run make?09:44
soxfunsorry, I came from Debian, here nonfree repos are called ...??09:44
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Eppus_wart: Okay, normal amd here and I didn't get any segfaults. Very probably a bug in the server code then09:44
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deFrysksoxfun, multiverse and universe09:44
teardeFrysk,  I have tried, but I bought if 2'nd hand and got no user guide and nothing can be found on google09:45
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nerpsoxfun, what deFrysk said09:45
s_wartEppu: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=27694809:45
nerp;P09:45
deFrysktear, did xorg detect your monitor ?09:45
Augustinnerp i've been sending you everything in query until i read my status window and saw they were blocked09:45
Augustin=D09:45
soxfunjeje, universe free, multiverse nonfree right?09:45
atha^majik^: I think that configure sets the correct paths for gcc in Makefiles, so probably no09:45
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nerpbah, this compile of e17 is taking forever and a day on this old box09:45
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deFrysksoliste, multiverse is non-free yes09:45
teardeFrysk, it still thinks it's my old...09:45
deFrysksoxfun,09:45
nerpAugustin, ask in channel09:45
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soxfunok, thanks a lot09:46
Augustinyup, i'm c/p stuff now ;)09:46
Augustini used hoary on my laptop, dual boot, WinXP being the other OS, and i used GRUB 1.5. now, a couple of hours ago, i burned Breezy and installed it.09:46
teardeFrysk, can I force detect it?09:46
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Augustineverything went fine until i reached the GRUB installation, which gave an error, so in the installation process, i skipped the installation of a loader, hoping that GRUB would work as it used to, since nothing was ACTUALLY changed during the reinstallation. but of course, next reboot, GRUB failed to load and gave an Error 15, so now i can't boot at all =)09:46
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benkong2can anyone look at this and tell me where to start? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/261909:46
Augustinany idea how to be able to reinstall GRUB properly without having to go through the whole install again ?09:46
deFrysktear, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and let it run the defaults and see it it recognizes your monitor09:46
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^majik^atha: ok, thx09:46
s_wartEppu: sounds like the fedora folks have fixed it09:47
nerpAugustin, no idea, I have no experience with dual boot machines or that sort of problem, sorry09:47
nerpsomeone else may though09:47
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Eppus_wart: Seems that the debian people do not consider this very severe, since they have downgraded the bug couple of times.09:47
Augustinyup, still clinging to that hope =P thanks for treying though =)09:47
monanyone can help me setup dhcpd for ra0? i get "please write a subnet declaration" but i do have that (i think)09:47
ThJi have Port 22\nPort 443\nListenAddress x.x.x.x (escaped, ip censored) in my sshd_config file and sshd does something stupid, namely listen with ipv6 on *:22 and x.x.x.x:443 with ipv4. why is it acting this weird? i want it to listen on both ports, on one ip, and no more. what's wrong?09:47
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^majik^atha: bingo!  thanks alot  :-)09:47
CookedGryphondoes anyone know how much there is to download for a standard breezy update? can I update it a bit at a time, or do i need to do it all at once?09:47
smxAnyone have advice on how to diagnose a sound problem? The error from mpg321 is "can't access device" , but the drivers are laoded and I know they'er the right ones. Someone here is always helpful ....   Ideas?09:47
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s_wartEppu: nod. based on the fact that you can use alien to convert the rpm file. not sure alien fits the ubuntu philosophy however :)09:48
nerpCookedGryphon, you shoudl do it in one shot09:48
deFryskCookedGryphon, about 600 megs09:48
CookedGryphonthanks, i'll wait till i have a faster connection then09:48
BergcubeI'm afraid I have a really really dumb question, and it's as off-topic as the ycome as well..... When surfing the net the other day I looked at the page of some promosing CMS. And now stupid me wished I'd /bookmarked/ the bleeding page. The site was very distinct as the main eye-catcher was a heavilly gimped picture of a lightbulb held in blue color-tones. Any hints, good people?09:48
mon!info dhcp09:48
ubotudhcp: (DHCP server for automatic IP address assignment), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2.0pl5-19.1 (hoary), Packaged size: 107 kB, Installed size: 304 kB09:48
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Eppus_wart: Yeah, only time I've used it is to test cedega. I rather compiler from source09:49
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mon!info dhcpd09:49
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Augustinanyone to help with the GRUB thing ?09:49
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tearthanks deFrysk. It found the monitor, now to reboot and see if it worked09:49
moparfan90hello all09:49
deFrysktear, not to reboot09:49
Eppus_wart: Advantage of that approach is that all the "alien" stuff goes to /usr/local by default.09:49
deFryskjust resart x09:50
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deFryskrestart*09:50
Skidhmph, slypheed isn't in the repositaries09:50
Skid(sp)09:50
benkong2!usplash09:50
ubotu[usplash]  in Breezy: sudo apt-get install usplash, for more information see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashDiscuss09:50
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moparfan90ctrl + alt +backspace09:50
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marco_g!firefox09:50
ubotumarco_g: Not a clue09:50
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marco_g!mozilla-firefox09:50
ubotumarco_g: Are you smoking crack?09:50
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deFryskmarco_g, using backports and having probs with firefox ?09:51
mon!dhcpd09:51
ubotumon: Did you get hit by a windmill?09:51
monsigh09:51
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BiSK-8i have a prob updating, it wont let me do the dist-upgrade09:51
BiSK-8it says tis got a prob with ymessenger09:51
marco_gdeFrysk: I did a dist-upgrade from hoary to breezy and firefox doesn't start anymore.09:51
logan001101help, how can i unzip .rar file ???09:52
nerpunrar09:52
montry unRARing it09:52
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naliothlogan001101: install and use unrar-nonfree09:52
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deFryskmarco_g, apt-get remove --purge mozilla-firefox is the solution I think09:52
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logan001101unrar is a packet isnt it??09:52
lutiferhi09:52
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deFryskmarco_g, and get rid of those backports!09:52
nerpno unrar is a package of an app that unpacks rar archivs09:53
marco_gdeFrysk: I never used backports...09:53
monpackage actually, yes09:53
deFryskmarco_g, and then reinstall mozilla-firefox09:53
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logan001101nalioth: unrar is a package isnt it??09:53
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pippijnI want to find all backports and replace them with the originals.. is that possible?09:53
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deFryskmarco_g, strange that it does not work then09:53
BiSK-8niko09:53
BiSK-8sei italiano?09:53
deFrysk!it09:53
ubotudeFrysk: Syntax error in line 109:53
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marco_gdeFrysk: I agree.09:54
deFryskdang :s09:54
nalioth!info unrar-nonfree09:54
ubotuunrar-nonfree: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 82 kB, Installed size: 208 kB09:54
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marco_gdeFrysk: Purging didn't work for me.09:54
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esac_would anybody be interested in making laptop specific packages? i was thinking of starting one for my laptop and was wondering if people thought it would be a good idea. something like apt-get install laptop-sony-vaio-vgn-a190 would install a custom kernel and all the right programs to work nicely with that laptop09:55
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athamarco_g: which version is installed at the moment?09:55
deFryskmarco_g, remove the .mozillafolder perhaps that works09:55
athaof firefox09:55
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marco_gdeFrysk: That was the first thing I tried.09:55
CookedGryphonesac_, if you got one to work on my laptop, then that would b a great idea09:55
Zeke1anybody have at ATI x800 card?09:55
marco_gatha: 1.0.709:55
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s_wartEppu: well at least I know I'm not going crazy. now I'm getting errors in the log file, which is a huge breakthrough. it's complaining that it's missing GLIBC_2.4. I should probably rebuild from source tomorrow. thanks again for all your help09:56
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marco_gdeFrysk: A new .mozilla directory is created, but it exits and the .mozilla dir is left empty.09:56
esac_CookedGryphon: of course everyone would want one for just their laptop. but i would be looking for people with laptops who would be willing to make specific packages and do testing09:56
Zeke1cant get fglrx working...can someone help please?09:56
athamarco_g: could there be problem with a certain plungin or something - did you have any plugins installed (manually perhaps) before upgrading?09:56
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Eppus_wart: Yeah, i wouldn't mess with alien binaries. Just grab a pached source and go from there.09:57
deFryskmarco_g, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop (in case something is missing)09:57
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marco_gdeFrysk: I did that too...09:58
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BurgerMannDoes anyone know a url resource on shell script tutorials?09:58
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Zeke1i get an error saying module load fail09:58
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logan001101help again, how to mount .mdf or .mds file to /media/cdroom009:58
dalamarmy psp automounts when I plug it in to the usb, what directory would that be in terminal?09:58
logan001101help again, how to mount .mdf or .mds file to /media/cdroom009:58
logan001101help again, how to mount .mdf or .mds file to /media/cdroom009:58
naliothlogan001101: you change them to iso09:58
naliothlogan001101: and burn them09:59
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logan001101nalioth: how can i do that???09:59
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AnswerHow do I change the computer name?09:59
deFryskmarco_g, sorry I am at a loss09:59
marco_gatha: All plugins (the vlc one) were removed during the upgrade.09:59
naliothlogan001101: in windows09:59
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Zeke1cant get fglrx working...can someone help please? i have an ati x80009:59
logan001101nalioth: oh no09:59
marco_gdeFrysk: Thanks anyways. :)09:59
naliothAnswer: use the "hostname" command in the terminal09:59
^majik^could someone tell me what the default root pass is right quick?  =o)  I don't think it allowed me to set it in the install, or did it?09:59
logan001101nalioth: i dont like windows09:59
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esac_!tell Zeke1 about ati09:59
deFryskmarco_g, good luck09:59
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naliothubotu: tell ^majik^ about root09:59
marco_gThanks. :)09:59
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WinZsorry for my bad english, but I need help.. Can someone tell me how to turn up ppp-connection (adsl through com-port modem) at startup? (what file to edit)10:00
Zeke1esac_, i did try that...it still dont work10:00
logan001101nalioth: another solution plz10:00
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Zeke1esac_, i get errors10:00
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Answernalioth:  I set it with hostname, when will the changes take effect?  Do i have to reboot?10:00
naliothlogan001101: find a friend with windows10:00
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dereks_so, what do you guys reccomend, dual core or 2 single cores10:00
esac_Zeke1: what is the error (paste.ubuntulinux.nl if it is more than 1 line)10:00
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dalamarlinux does not like mdf period10:00
pippijnis it possible to purge all configurations of deleted packages?10:00
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deFryskdereks_, we reccommend what suits you best10:00
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esac_dereks_: dual core, better cache locality (spatially and temporaly)10:00
dereks_deFrysk: lol10:00
naliothdereks_: there is more to it than than, and also it is a subject for #ubuntu-offtopic10:00
logan001101nalioth: so in win which program i can use???10:01
naliothlogan001101: the one which created it10:01
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dalamarmdf is alocohol 120% i think10:01
Zeke1esac_,  it says fatel server error, module load fail10:01
^majik^heh, thanks once again10:01
logan001101nalioth: u r funny man10:01
naliothlogan001101: your answer is here.10:01
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esac_Zeke1: what happens when you "sudo modprobe fglrx" ?10:01
logan001101yeh it an alcohol10:01
dalamaryou can use magiciso or a similar program to convert it in windows as well10:01
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benkong2how can I delete the 8139cp module that tries to load at boot?10:02
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Zeke1esac_, nothing happens which means its working right?10:02
logan001101dalamar: in windows u mean?10:02
deFryskbenkong2, blacklist it I believe10:02
pippijnanyone?10:02
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esac_Zeke1: do an "lsmod | grep fglrx" and see if it shows up10:02
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dalamarlogan001101, yes, ive never found a solution for linux i try and stay away from mdf for that reason10:02
benkong2deFrysk; I hate to ask but how do I blacklist it?10:02
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WinZnalioth, can you tell me how to turn up ppp-connection (adsl through com-port modem) at startup? (what file to edit) pleeease..10:03
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logan001101thanks guys10:03
Zeke1esac_, gives me this : fglrx                 262392  010:03
deFryskbenkong2, put the module in the blacklist file (not sure whre it is tho ? anyone ?10:03
logan001101will try that shit10:03
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logan001101really hate wins10:03
rob_pBurgerMann:  If you google for, "shell script how-to", it yields the following tutorial, which looks promising:  http://vertigo.hsrl.rutgers.edu/ug/shell_help.html10:03
dalamarmy psp automounts when I plug it in to the usb, what directory would that be in terminal?10:03
naliothWinZ: i'm sorry i do not know10:03
benkong2deFrysk; ok thanks I search10:04
esac_Zeke1: ok, can you "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE" and paste what it shows in paste.ubuntulinux.nl ?10:04
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_johnhey, if i have ubuntu installed on my computer, and another without an internet connection with ubuntu, can i copy the GNU C Compiler and G++ folders onto a disc so i can use gcc on my other computer?  if so, what folders, woudl I need to copy?10:04
athadalamar: run "mount" and look if there is a one which looks something like that :)10:04
dalamaratha, bingo, thanks much10:04
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Zeke1esac_, ok but im running a vesa driver now just so you know and i am in X as well10:05
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Zeke1esac_, i have pasted10:05
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esac_Zeke1: ok, you need to get X to crash when loading fglrx then, and when it does, backup /var/log/Xorg.0.log and paste me that instead :)10:06
Zeke1esac_, ok can u hold on for like 2 minutes10:07
esac_ill be here10:07
arverneanybody in the desktop team willing to improve the placement modes of metacity? I miss the centering by default option10:07
arvernethere is an interesting patch to look at: http://home.uchicago.edu/~chad/metacity/10:08
Zeke1esac_, will be back in 2 minutes10:08
nerp\a\anyoone have any idea what package would solve : aclocal: configure.in: 118: macro `AM_PATH_GTK' not found in library10:08
nerp\a\i have all gtk libs10:09
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davrohttp://tinyurl.com/85dry10:11
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Zeke1esac_, you still here?10:12
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frank23can anyone load the ath_pci module with 2.6.12-9 in breezy?10:12
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HfuyEvening all.10:12
HfuyHow would my friend check if CPU scaling is working on his laptop?10:13
Zeke1esac_, what was that cat instruction i had to type to output the log10:13
meezhow to run shell scripts (setup.sh????)10:13
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frank23Hfuy  cat /proc/cpuinfo10:13
HfuyWill that tell him what it's doing right now, or just what it could do?10:13
frank23Hfuy  That will just give the clock speed10:14
esac_oh well10:14
BergcubeFor the log: The CMS I was asking for earlier turned out to be E107.  ( http://e107.org/news.php )10:14
HfuyThe clock speed now, or the "Normal" one?10:14
frank23Hfuy: the current one, whatever it is10:14
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HfuyRight10:15
meezdoes anyone know how i run shell scripts?10:15
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HfuyThe next question would be how would you make it scale, or would you expect it to "just happen".#10:15
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frank23Hfuy: you have to compare idle and not idle cpu usage10:15
derFlodoes anybody of you know a GPLd email-marketing tool, running with apache,php4 and mysql?10:16
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BergcubeEmail marketing?  Isn't that newspeak for "spam"?10:16
frank23Hfuy: easy way to make the cpu work: type yes in a shell10:16
SEPARADO-40hola10:16
SEPARADO-40alguien que hable espaol????10:16
Zeke1esac_, you still here?10:16
esac_always10:17
_domhey, can anyone help me with a problem with my upload speed?10:17
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kemik!es10:17
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.10:17
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dpro\!dk10:17
ubotudpro\: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about10:17
derFloBergcube: I have email-lists and they are all opt in10:17
Zeke1esac_, i pasted the other one10:17
dpro\!da10:17
ubotudpro\: I give up, what is it?10:17
dpro\:P10:17
dpro\lol10:17
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dpro\no danish channel? .P10:17
derFlosome others would call it a newsletter10:17
derFlobut I will track some stats10:17
dpro\ahh nevermind10:18
naliothdpro\: try and see, it may not be in the database10:18
BergcubederFlo~ Ah.  That is another cup of tea.  Unfortunately I cannot suggest any tool for you.10:18
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Zeke1esac_,  will you check it out and let me know>10:18
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dpro\nalioth, uhh... #ubuntu-dk exists!10:18
finleyis there an nfs specific irc channel?10:19
derFloyou already helped. I'll search for "newsletter-tool"10:19
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derFloa new idea10:19
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naliothdpro\: yes, but not in the bots database10:19
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esac_Zeke1: comment out the int10 module in your xorg.conf10:19
zAo^how do I set GCC to 3.4? (Breezy)10:19
esac_zAo^: CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.410:19
zAo^thanks :)10:19
Zeke1esac_,  how do i do that10:19
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esac_zAo^ for example: CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 sudo ./vmware-install.pl10:19
Zeke1oh with a # right10:20
frank23can anyone load the ath_pci module with 2.6.12-9 in breezy?10:20
esac_Zeke1: correct :)10:20
frank23It works with 2.6.12-6 but not 2.6.12-910:20
revarcGreetings all.  Is there anything I can do to get the nvidia drivers to work, every time I've tried enablaling nvidia-glx my X crashes and tells me to fix my config.10:20
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HfuyDoes anyone here have experience with Ubuntu on an HP Pavilion DV1000 laptop, or similar?10:20
deFryskrevarc, did you do it as told in the wiki ?10:20
Zeke1esac_,  ok and then10:20
esac_Zeke1: restart X and see if that fixes it. are you running x64 ?10:21
athaZeke1: http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-amd64@lists.debian.org/msg12380.html this also instructs to comment out the int10 module but also to make one symbolic link10:21
Zeke1esac_,  yeah Amd6410:21
Zeke1esac_,  and ubuntu 6410:21
esac_Hfuy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=611210:21
revarcdeFrysk: pardon?10:21
deFrysk!tell revarc about nvidia10:22
esac_Zeke1: does /usr/X11R6/lib64 exist (and is it a link to /usr/X11R6/lib) ?10:22
finleyanyone have mountd cpu usage probs w/ubunto on amd6410:22
deFryskrevarc, did you do it the way ubotu is telling you ?10:22
Zeke1esac_,  erm how do i check that10:22
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esac_Zeke1: ls -l /usr/X11R610:22
revarcdeFrysk, yes and I've also compile the driver from nvidia page both 7676, and 766710:22
deFryskrevarc, do you have an older type nvidia-card ?10:23
revarcdeFrysk, fx590010:23
Zeke1esac_, yeah its a link10:23
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esac_Zeke1: You would see something like lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root ..... lib64 -> /usr/X11R6/lib10:23
esac_Zeke1: ok so just comment that out and restart X10:23
Hfuyesac_: Thanks.10:23
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deFryskrevarc, weird ..10:23
vladuz976if you copy scripts to /etc/cron.daily what time of each day do they get executed?10:23
HfuyI'm reading good things in general, but I hadn't found that one.10:23
Zeke1esac_, ok cool i will be back hopefully with working fglrx! :) thanx man10:24
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boozeeAny body here free to give some KDE help ?10:25
HfuyWhen we close the lid on this Toshiba laptop, it doesn't even try to suspend.10:25
Zeke1esac_, how do i restart x if im already in it? :)10:25
HfuyInstead, when we open it back up, it asks for a password.10:25
HfuyCan anyone shed light on why this might be?10:25
esac_Zeke1: CTRL+ALT+F1 , login , sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart10:25
deFryskboozee, kde peaople are mostly in #kubuntu10:25
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jonison06hey10:27
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dpro\Hfuy, because the Toshiba kernel module doensnt load with all Toshiba laptops10:27
revarcdeFrysk, any idea at all what could be up?  I've read through tons of posts and "how-to's" and now I'm at my wits end.10:27
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dpro\Hfuy, i have the same problem10:27
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HfuyIs it fixable?10:28
HfuyWe have ascertained that this particular laptop won't hibernate or suspend properly, which is a near-showstopper for us.10:28
athanerp\a\: about the AM_PATH_GTK macro - it comes from libgtk1.2-dev10:28
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deFryskrevarc, I really have no clue if you did it according to the wiki it should work fine10:28
flankkI'm searching for a password management GTK application which functions similar to kwallet.  I have a USB thumb I need to use as an additional authentication method.10:28
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larshi all10:28
dpro\Hfuy, i think it is fixable, if you want to mess with the code in the kernel module10:28
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Hfuydpro\: Shriek!10:28
HfuyWhat SHOULD it do when you close the lid?10:29
boozeedefrysk - been there (actually, still there) but they can't give me the help I need (only one man answered me10:29
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HfuyOr at least try to do, given that it won't recover from suspend.10:29
larsi've got a problem could somebody help me ?10:29
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Zeke1esac_,  ok that sort of seemed to work except glxgears is really slow still and when i do fglrxinfo it says i have mesa running10:29
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deFryskrevarc, as a last try you could try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and runt the defaults exept for setting it to nvidia in stead of nv10:29
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dpro\Hfuy, well mine does nothing, but in windows it goes in standby mode10:30
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deFryskrevarc, and turn of dri10:30
Hfuydpro\: That's what I'd expect.10:30
larsCould somebody help me ?10:30
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butcherbirdlars, what is the problem?10:30
HfuyI mean, a non suspending laptop is a fairly considerable waste of space, so I'm very keen to find out whether it'll work on mine before I go and nuke the XP install.10:30
esac_Zeke1: yep, for some reason it's a pain to get it to actually load fglrx. if you do lsmod | grep fglrx now, does it appear ?10:30
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larsI've got a Acer 4002 wlmi laptop10:30
revarcdeFrysk, have done both of those things, same errors.10:30
larsAnd i want to use wireless internet10:30
deFryskrevarc, and it runs fine on the nv module ?10:31
dpro\Hfuy, try to modprobe something like toshiba-acpi10:31
Zeke1esac_, gives me this: fglrx                 262392  010:31
larsBut when i'm using Kanotix everything is automatic, and no i have to install drivers :S10:31
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Hfuydpro\: What would that do10:31
revarcdefrysk, yes the nv module is fine10:31
butcherbirdlars, you have a wireless pcmcia card?10:31
larsno it's intergrated10:31
dpro\load the acpi module for you toshiba laptop, and then it should work10:31
Hfuyah10:31
deFryskrevarc, what message is it giving when x fails ?10:31
Hfuyhow would we then control it10:31
esac_Zeke1: ok, try:   sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`10:32
dpro\Hfuy, with fnfx it an app especially for toshiba hardware10:32
esac_Zeke1: then try a restart again10:32
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butcherbirdlars, is ubuntu detecting it?10:32
Zeke1esac_,  exactly kile that or my version where uname is?10:33
revarcdeFrysk, (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA graphics device!(EE) NVIDIA(0):  *** Aborting ***(II) UnloadModule: "nvidia" (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.10:33
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larsnope, when i'm using this command in konsole to look if it is detected ifconfig it's detecting10:33
Hfuydpro\: fnfx?10:33
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Hfuyis that preinstalled, or do we have to go get it?10:33
esac_Zeke1: exactly kile that10:33
deFryskrevarc, is your monitor properly detected ?10:33
Hfuyand it's an executable command?10:33
dpro\Hfuy, you have to get it10:33
Zeke1esac_,  ok that ave me a whole bunch of errors...can i paste it on the website?10:33
Hfuydpro\: OK, how?10:33
revarcdeFrysk, yes it is.10:33
dpro\ehm wait10:34
esac_Zeke1: of course10:34
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Zeke1esac_,  ok i pasted it10:34
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dpro\Hfuy, sudo apt-get install fnfxd10:34
Hfuyfnfxd?10:34
deFryskrevarc,  tried a lower screenresolution ?10:34
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HfuyAh.10:34
HfuyFN hot keys10:35
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dpro\Hfuy, its a daemon running in the background10:35
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Hfuyonce installed, will it autorun at boot?10:35
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dpro\Hfuy, yeah it should do that10:35
esac_Zeke1: whoa, it looks like you really need to upgrade your system :)10:35
Hfuyok.10:35
deFryskrevarc, one more possibillity, do you have on board videocard ?10:35
HfuyBut the modprobe only lasts one boot iirc...10:36
revarcdeFrysk, no I have not.  which begs another question my login screen in X is always at 1792x1344, but after I log in it changes to whatever I have it set to which right now is 1920x144010:36
Hfuyhow do I make that permanent10:36
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Zeke1esac_,  ok but i just installed the latest ubuntu i could find? what do i need to do10:36
revarcdefrysk, no onboard video10:36
esac_Zeke1: try "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and then after that just do a reboot. if fglrx still doesn't work, then we can start from there10:36
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deFryskrevarc, sorry I am out of possibilities exept set the reolution lower in xorg.conf10:37
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CookedGryphonare there any tools for linux to convert pdf files into something editable?10:37
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revarcdefrysk, ok ty I'll give it a try, I just dont' hold out much hope.  ty for your time.10:37
deFryskrevarc, good luck10:37
Hfuydpro\: "modprobe toshiba-acpi" responds with "fatal error: could not open /proc/acpi/toshiba/keys"10:38
deFryskrevarc, huge screen you have btw :)10:38
HfuyCookedGryphon: PDF is not editable suddenly?10:38
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CookedGryphonHfuy, not with the ubuntu default install10:39
HfuyOh.10:39
CookedGryphonnot that i can see10:39
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HfuyIt's certainly doable in Acrobat.10:39
dmacdonald111Hi all.10:39
loststryk:)10:39
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Zeke1esac_,  i got some errors again..i pasted it10:39
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dmacdonald111Can anyone help with locating bcmwl5 to use with ndiswrapper? I have been trawling the internet with absolutely no luck :(10:39
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esac_Zeke1: can you try running sudo apt-get update a few times to see if it eventually works? looks like something is getting corrupted when its downloading10:40
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Zeke1esac_,  OK IM RUNNING DIST-UPGRADE ASWELL10:41
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Zeke1esac_, if i keep trying will it eventaully work?10:41
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Eddy_hello10:41
esac_Zeke1: i can't be sure, i haven't had that issue10:41
Eddy_can someone help me, i have problems with GRUB10:41
poningruwhat?10:41
Hfuydpro\: Big scary error I don't understand when modprobeing toshiba-acpi10:42
benkong2what else can I try adding 8139cp to /etc/hotplug/blacklist did not fix the boot error.10:42
poningrujust ask the question10:42
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AdmiralSennmore questions, everyone10:42
Zeke1esac_,  wont i be able to get it from somewhere else?10:42
AdmiralSennwhen Ubuntu installs on the default ext2fs, is the default blocksize 4096?10:42
Oetzihi10:42
dmacdonald111I need help getting my wireless network working.10:42
Hfuy"unknown symbol in module or unknown paramater (see dmesg)"10:42
dpro\Hfuy, yeah i know, the same thing here, that is because it doesnt work with all Toshiba laptops10:42
Eddy_poningru i installed breezy over hoary, everything went fine, but when it came to installing GRUB, it failed, and now i get a GRUB failure (error 15) when i boot, and cannot reinstall Breezy from the CD.10:42
Oetzii have problem with mplayer fullscreen10:43
deFryskbenkong2, is it about using 8139too instead10:43
deFrysk?10:43
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benkong2deFrysk; yes10:43
poningruEddy_: hmm you have to rebuild grub10:43
poningruhold on10:43
deFryskbenkong2, thats not an error, thats a message10:43
Hfuydpro\: So what's happened here, just to be clear, is that we've tried to insert a special toshiba kernel module for ACPI, and it's failed for some reason10:43
jnkOetzi, which problem?10:43
Oetziwhen i try to start in fullscreen des video doesn't zoom10:43
Hfuy(I have a bug in about busted hibernate on this machine, to which I will add this information)10:43
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Oetziit remain in old size10:44
deFryskbenkong2, so leave it as it is ;)10:44
benkong2ok so I don't have to worry10:44
benkong2ok...now on to the others10:44
Oetziand the rest of screen becomes black10:44
benkong2deFrysk; thanks10:44
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deFryskbenkong2, I have the same message ;)10:44
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poningruEddy_: its the file not found thing right?10:45
benkong2deFrysk; k since it's not an error I can live with it. do you have these also? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/261910:45
Eddy_poningru i don't think so10:45
AdmiralSennanyone know about ubuntu's device options when it installs?10:45
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Eddy_poningru i think that the Ubuntu install failed to install GRUB because GRUB was actually already there. but it seems it messed everything up, and now i get an Error 15 when GRUB starts, and the PC is then stuck there10:46
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deFryskbenkong2, errors wich will be fixed during debugging of breezy10:46
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benkong2they are ok thanks I roll along then10:47
Oetzidoes anyone know how to solve the problem10:47
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deFryskbenkong2, they are not ok but harmless10:47
revarcdeFrysk, setting the res lower did not help. :(  Oh well, was worth a shot.10:47
deFryskbenkong2, for us that is :D10:48
rob__hello - can I get help here?10:48
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benkong2I can wait the upgrade that I got this morning took mu usplash and gave me those errors10:48
poningruEddy_: hmm10:48
Eddy_poningru what i'm looking for would be something very simple, like a way to remove GRUB from the boot, so it can be installed again10:48
Adridonwhy is the http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/main/binary-i386/ directory empty? does anybody know the problem? are there other backport servers?10:48
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AdmiralSennI can't believe nobody knows what blocksize ubuntu uses by default10:48
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Spudchathi everyone10:48
deFryskrevarc, sorry :(10:48
rob__hey10:48
benkong2I really liked looking at that cool splash screen.10:48
Spudchatcan someone help me add a location to my $PATH10:48
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poningruEddy_: does that thing take floppys?10:48
Spudchatim in the bash_profile10:48
benkong2rob__ ask the question10:48
Eddy_poningru nah, only CDs =/10:48
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AdmiralSennexport $PATH=path_to_something, I think?10:49
lextonhello all10:49
poningrucrap10:49
AdmiralSenn-?10:49
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deFryskbenkong2, as soon as there is an error the splash screen goes10:49
deFryskthats why10:49
lextonI'm trying to get mac os x to boot in yaboot10:49
Spudchatadd that in?10:49
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AdmiralSennjust type it in the terminal10:49
Spudchatooo ok10:49
lextonI've set -> macosx=/dev/hda510:49
AdmiralSennyou can try it in the profile thing10:49
poningruEddy_: hold on10:49
lextonbut yaboot won't recognize it10:49
Eddy_poningru i can set up a LAN though, but i'm not sure it's easy to boot on the network... i don't know how to configure it.10:49
Eddy_poningru sure =)10:49
AdmiralSennif I still had my linux partition I could tell you for sure if that syntax is right10:49
benkong2deFrysk;  yeah funny thing my other kernel will still boot with usplash10:49
deFryskbenkong2, yup :)10:50
rob__I am trying to install the KDE desktop - how?10:50
deFrysknight folks10:50
jnkOetzi, did you get my message about the terminal before I was disconnected?10:50
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darkheartrob__ 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'10:50
Oetzinope10:50
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jnkOetzi, try this: open a terminal, then type exactly this: mkdir .mplayer; echo vo=xv >> .mplayer/config10:50
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AdmiralSenngrrr... I don't want to risk losing all this stuff!10:50
Hfuywhen it says "see dmesg" what does that mean?10:51
jnkHfuy, type dmesg in a terminal10:51
rob__darkheart   -I did that but it says the package not found10:51
dpro\type dmesg10:51
Oetzik thx jnk10:51
darkheartHfuy Type 'dmesg' in a console10:51
darkheart!tell rob__ about repositories10:51
HfuyOK10:51
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mikeybhardware issue..... when ever i try and connect some new piece of hardware...for example front usb connectors to the MB or a new cdrom ubuntu has a kernal panic and can't boot till i remove the hardware.... why10:51
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poningruEddy_: can you boot up from another cd?10:52
Oetzijnk: it works thx10:52
poningrulike an ubuntu live cd?10:52
AdmiralSennwhen Ubuntu installs on the default ext2fs, is the default blocksize 4096?10:52
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eagleyeCan someone help me... I went to start my freshly installed and updated unbuntu sytem and it says grub loading please wait error 18, What does this mean and is there a way to fix it10:52
Eddy_i'd have to download it first =S can't i do something using the regular Install CD ?10:52
benkong2can breezy ubuntu have kbuntu added?10:53
test34AdmiralSenn, can I ask why you need to know ?10:53
poningruEddy_: hmm nm still looking10:53
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AdmiralSenntest34, because I'm about to try a mke2fs option to fix it, and if the blocksize is wrong it's all ruined10:53
test34AdmiralSenn, ahh ok10:53
jnkOetzi, no problem (you've just put in the mplayer config file a line where it says to use XV as video output. The same as using  mplayer with a command like "mplayer -vo xv movie.avi")10:53
Oetziyes i know what the line did10:54
mikeybhardware issue..... when ever i try and connect some new piece of hardware...for example front usb connectors to the MB or a new cdrom ubuntu has a kernal panic and can't boot till i remove the hardware.... why10:54
Oetzi;D10:54
jnk:)10:54
Oetziso i did it with vi10:54
jnklol10:54
Oetzibecause i had another wrong vo-line in the config10:54
rob__darkheart repositories?10:55
mikeybanyone?10:55
jnkOetzi, mmm depending on how you installed mplayer maybe you could justs have done a "dpkg-reconfigure mplayer"10:55
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poningruEddy_: dude when you start up your comp what happens?10:55
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Eddy_poningru GRUB loads. GRUB stops because of Error 15. Then nothing.10:56
poningruhmm10:56
Oetzii have made an apt-get install mplayer-68610:56
poningruEddy_: can you try something10:56
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jdonghey, is it possible to get Epiphany mouse gestures to work off the right button?10:56
poningruwhen that comes up try hitting the e key10:56
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Eddy_poningru sure, in the present state, nothing can be of any additional harm ;)10:56
poningruits supposed to edit10:56
rob__thx - got it...10:56
Eddy_ok, will try10:56
poningruhehe10:56
mikeybanyone?10:57
poningrualso another thing do you have a windows bootable cd?10:57
mikeybhardware issue..... when ever i try and connect some new piece of hardware...for example front usb connectors to the MB or a new cdrom ubuntu has a kernal panic and can't boot till i remove the hardware.... why10:57
eagleyeCan someone help me... I went to start my freshly installed and updated unbuntu sytem and it says grub loading please wait error 18, What does this mean and is there a way to fix it10:57
logan001101shinu: cant find anything with 'apt-cache search mdf iso'10:57
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Oetzibut i have used an restored an old config-file from an backup-dvd from my old notebook10:57
Eddy_poningru yeah but there's a problem10:57
AdmiralSennwell, I'm getting frustrated now10:57
test34AdmiralSenn, try fdisk -l [device] 10:57
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Oetziand there was a line vo=vesa that was the problem10:57
logan001101shinu: cant find anything with 'apt-cache search mdf iso'10:57
PShiverseagleye: I got the same, I just reinstalled it10:57
eagleyeoh no10:57
marco_geagleye: Did you enable LBA support in the BIOS?10:57
eagleyeeverything was perfect last night new install10:58
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eagleyeno,10:58
AdmiralSenntest34, that doesn't say anything about block size10:58
mikeybany admins here that can help?10:58
poningru Eddy_ ?10:58
logan001101shinu: cant find anything with 'apt-cache search mdf iso'10:58
Eddy_poningru didn't work10:59
B_166-ER-Xhow do i make x-chat to open on startup ?10:59
mikeybbum10:59
logan001101how can i covert .mdf file to .iso one??10:59
poningruEddy_: hmm about that windows cd do you have that?10:59
Skidwhen exporting your GPG )as per the wiki) - it says gpg --export -a {{{User Name}}} >public.key - does the username part mean your linux user account name, or your realname ?10:59
logan001101how can i covert .mdf file to .iso one??10:59
Oetziknow i only have to wait until Xorg locale bug is fixed then breezy works perfect10:59
marco_geagleye: LBA support should be enabled, if it is not (or if the computer is too old) you have to use a small boot partition at the beginning of the disk.10:59
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logan001101how can i covert .mdf file to .iso one??10:59
mikeybneed help.... any takers?10:59
Eddy_poningru yeah i have that10:59
test34AdmiralSenn, it gives you the number of blocks, you can figure it out10:59
marco_gOetzi: What kind of bug is that?10:59
eagleyemarco_g Will that solve the problem. without reinstalling10:59
Skid!gpg10:59
ubotuhmm... gpg is at http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kf1.html#h2add10:59
Eddy_poningru but the only mean i have found to get a console is to use the "recovery tool"11:00
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marco_geagleye: No.11:00
poningruEddy_: can you boot in using that and get onto a console?11:00
poningruoh11:00
Eddy_poningru which then asks for a password. and for some reason it doesn't accept my password.11:00
AdmiralSenntest34, don't see blocks anywhere in that11:00
poningruhmm ic11:00
Oetzimarco_g: i want to use iso-8859-1511:00
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marco_gah :)11:00
Eddy_i don't get it since i've use the same pass for eveyrthing for years, but...11:00
logan001101plz help, how can i covert .mdf file to .iso one??11:00
Oetzide_DE@euro locale11:00
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Eddy_poningru it was to try the old fdisk /mbr trick right ? ^^11:00
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poningruEddy_: yeah11:01
Skidwhen exporting your GPG )as per the wiki) - it says gpg --export -a {{{User Name}}} >public.key - does the username part mean your linux user account name, or your realname ?11:01
Eddy_poningru and there's no way to do that under linux ? i haven't read anything like that in forums but you never know...11:01
eagleyethis really bites.. I wish i knew that earlier..11:01
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poningruEddy_: I would say that you need a live cd11:01
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rebortim having a ig oem with ug 1647911:01
Lars_GI want breezy I need breezy!11:01
Oetzibut my fluxbox tells me that this locale is not supported11:01
logan001101plz help, how can i covert .mdf file to .iso one??11:01
mikeybhardware issue..... when ever i try and connect some new piece of hardware...for example front usb connectors to the MB or a new cdrom ubuntu has a kernal panic and can't boot till i remove the hardware.... why11:01
athalogan001101: how about wine + isobuster11:01
poningruand mess with the grub.lst files11:01
Lars_Gsomeone send me to october right now!! I want a pressed stable breezy! I crave it!11:01
test34AdmiralSenn, try sudo fdisk -l11:01
Eddy_poningru admitting i have one now, how would i do that ? i'll probably won't be able to do it before tomorrow...11:02
rebortyou dont want ezy!11:02
logan001101atha: ??11:02
reborteezy destroys your keyoard11:02
Eddy_where's that file ? because you can launch a console with the regular install Cd, using the expert mode11:02
logan001101atha: what do u mean?11:02
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AdmiralSenntest34, thanks11:02
dany-boyre...11:02
logan001101atha: what is isobuster11:02
OetziGdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib11:02
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athalogan001101: how about using google11:02
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logan001101atha: already used it11:03
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Spudchati gave in and just moved my shell scripts11:03
poningruEddy_: hmm true hold on let me just give you the website11:03
Oetzimarco_g: the bug is already reported to http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1372411:03
Eddy_poningru couldn't find it on GRUB's website, but if you can i'd like the link yes =) thanks a lot11:03
logan001101atha: just get MagicISO which i hv to use it in windows11:03
AdmiralSenntest34, how do I get the blocksize from that?11:03
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AdmiralSenntest34, I subtracted the "Start" from "End" and divided the number of blocks by that number11:04
marco_gOetzi: Right, I have seen those messages.11:04
reborthas anyone seen http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16479 eviously?11:04
lextonI have a question about mac os x and yaboot11:04
AdmiralSennbut it gave me 8000 something11:04
lextonI've set --> macosx=/dev/hda5 in yaboot.conf11:05
logan001101atha: help, i need to play warcraft in linux :((11:05
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test34AdmiralSenn, get the size of the partition/number of blocks ?11:05
lextonbut it won't give me an option to boot into mac os x11:05
logan001101atha: just kidding :D11:05
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AdmiralSenntest34, yes11:05
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jc-dentonhi al11:05
lextoneven manually setting macosx won't work11:05
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jc-dentonall11:05
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jc-dentoni always  get the following error msg when using gtk apps11:05
Oetzimarco_g: do you know any solution to this11:05
jc-denton(gedit:20524): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib11:05
jc-denton$LANG is en_US11:06
jc-dentoni think it's becacue it was first set to unicode then i set it back to this11:06
marco_gOetzi: No...11:06
poningruEddy_: I cant get a good tutorial website11:06
eagleyemarco_g Hey, lba mode is enabled..I need to solve this, this is crazy, I reinstalled 4 times already and got help setting up.. I cant keep doing this..11:06
poningruhold on11:06
logan001101any help, need to find some stuff to covert mds or mdf file to iso one11:06
marco_geagleye: Is it a very old PC or so?11:06
Eddy_poningru yeah, i couldn't either, that's why i came here =/ it seems no one knows how to do when you can't use a boot disk =/11:06
eagleye1.8 gig nvidia card11:07
remyforb1s777 '11:07
john_lI'm going to install a windows boot so that I can game once in awhile, but grub is installed to the harddrive i'm formatting... what do I need to do to make sure I can get to this drive after I install windows?11:07
AdmiralSenntest34, yes I have the number of blocks, what now?11:07
Oetzijc-denton: the problem is that my fluxbox, aterm and several other progs do not work because of this error11:07
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remyforb1s777quit11:08
Oetziso im using posix know11:08
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jc-dentonOetzi: wtf11:08
jc-dentonmy fluxbox work11:08
jc-dentonworks11:08
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sadrulhi. which repository should i use to get something strictly `better' (or more) than gtk2.6.8?11:08
logan001101any help, need to find some stuff to covert mds or mdf file to iso one11:08
AdmiralSennlogan001101, google it11:08
eagleyemarco_g Its not that bad or old..11:08
coccobillciao11:08
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poningruEddy_: try this11:09
logan001101AdmiralSenn: i said i had already google it11:09
paul_hello11:09
AdmiralSennI didn't see that11:09
nerp\a\hmm, anyone familiar with the way ubuntu handles bash comletion vs other distros.. trying to get a list of probable options to pop up when i type a string<tab> rather than having to be so specific11:09
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Oetzijc-denton: it starts but there are no fonts shown and in aterm  an so on do not work11:09
logan001101any help, need to find some stuff to covert mds or mdf file to iso one :(( ooooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa11:10
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jc-dentonOetzi: yes11:10
marco_geagleye: It seems it cannot boot your system....11:10
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jc-dentonbut i had some more problemes with unicode11:10
nerp\a\for example if I type ap<tab> appollon aprophryon appelgator will pop up11:10
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Eddy_poningru yeah ?11:10
marco_geagleye: I would use a small /boot at the beginning of the disk in that case.11:10
ompaulnerp\a\, I don't understand if you type a(tab tab) all 'a' options appear11:10
jc-dentonOetzi: so u mean i should simply switch back the locales to unicode?11:10
poningruEddy_: see what you have to do is reinstall grub11:11
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nico8481hi11:11
dseomnwhen I try to install hoary on an AMD-K6, it freezes during the kernel boot (the last message is "Checking 'bit' instruction...")11:11
nerp\a\doh! it's <tab tab> .. I am used to hitting tab ONCE11:11
test34AdmiralSenn, get the size of the partition divided by number of blocks maybe?11:11
poningrutrying to find a good tutorial website for that11:11
eagleyemarco, it was working fine, Do you mean set a small partition11:11
marco_geagleye: It suddenly stopped working?11:11
Eddy_ok, i'll try, but just to be sure: you didn't give me any link, right ? because none appeared, that's why i said "?" =)11:11
kb9wayapt get dunt work on my box11:11
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Oetzijc-denton: i'm using POSIX C encoding since yesterday11:11
ompaul!tell poningru about grub11:12
AdmiralSenntest34, that gives me a tiny little number11:12
jc-dentonOetzi: ?11:12
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jc-dentonthe oli issue i have is with gtk apps11:12
jc-dentoni dont need umlauts in terminal11:12
nico8481how can i add languages to the supported languages of the spellchecker in Evolution or OpenOffice? I can only select variants of english [UK/US]  and I'd like to add French11:12
Oetziyes me too11:12
AdmiralSenntest34, wait a minute11:12
poningruEddy_: http://www.sorgonet.com/linux/grubrestore/11:12
eagleyemarco, I reinstalled last night with new hard drive, had help setting up and everything was good.... Shut down last night, today went to start it and got error 1811:12
test34AdmiralSenn, use bytes ?11:12
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ompaulnico8481, apt-cache search spell | grep fr11:13
poningruEddy_: dont know if those commands will work from the expert mode11:13
AdmiralSennit's 102411:13
AdmiralSennnever mind11:13
Oetziusing this encoding workes well against the gtk-problem11:13
marco_geagleye: Did it reboot after installing?11:13
Eddy_poningru yeah, thanks, found that one, am reading... but i might have trouble finding the files in question since i cannot really access my own disk =S11:13
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eagleyemarco, today was first time to reboot11:13
poningruEddy_: why cant you access your disk?11:14
LasseLhow can I play a "mpc" music file?11:14
poningruthe password thing?11:14
AdmiralSennokay, I'm going to do it!11:14
nico8481ompaul, "aspell-fr"? is that all I need,11:14
nico8481?11:14
rebortno one has seen http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16479?11:14
Oetziand the umlauts are only shown because my irssi runs on my shell server with encoding iso-8859-111:14
athanico8481: language-support-fr metapackage "This metapackage depends on all packages that provide native language support for the various applications in Ubuntu (like various spell checkers, dictionaries, OpenOffice and Mozilla locale packages, etc."11:14
kb9wayok i fixed my aptget problim11:15
ompaulEddy_, you can - > sudo -i < in a terminal  cd /boot/grub and the file you want is called menu.lst - note that you can read this on  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto11:15
dseomnLasseL: install gstreamer0.8-musepack11:15
kb9wayi was a dummy and mistyped sumtin11:15
nico8481atha, thanks11:15
Oetzion local machine there are no umlauts in the terminal11:15
Eddy_poningru how do i access my linux partition from the expert mode ? they say the root filesystem is in RAM, and the disk is on /target, but cd /target tells me it cannot access it11:15
ompaulnico8481, s http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto  also11:15
LasseLdseomn, thanks11:15
ompaulnico8481, woops11:15
poningruEddy_: I think you have to mount it11:15
Eddy_ompaul i have read that, thanks, but my problem is HOW do i do to access a console11:15
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ompaulnico8481, openoffice.org-l10n-fr - French language package for OpenOffice.org11:15
yoyasnas11:16
Oetzijc-denton: just try it11:16
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nico8481thx11:16
ompaulEddy_, applications system tools terminal11:16
dseomnwhen I try to install hoary on an AMD-K6, it freezes during the kernel boot (the last message is "Checking 'bit' instruction..."); any ideas?11:16
Eddy_ompaul you haven't read my problem. when GRUB loads, GRUB stops, ERROR 15, and i can't do anything else11:16
ompaulahhh11:16
nico8481which tool is used by such software (evolution/OOo) to check spelling? aspell? myspell?11:16
jc-dentonOetzi: when doing dpkg-reconfigure locales11:16
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jc-dentoni have the choice between en_US ISO something and UTF11:17
eagleyeEddy I have same problem, just error 1811:17
nico8481or is-il built-in?11:17
nico8481"is it"11:17
dseomnnico8481: IIRC evo uses aspell and ooo uses myspell11:17
Eddy_eagleye tough huh ? =/11:17
nico8481k11:17
butcherbirdEddy_, you have multiple hd or just one?11:17
LasseLdseomn, which repository should I use?11:17
remyforbes777anyone use ubuntu 6411:17
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Oetzijc-denton: or if you have a machine with running hoary you also can try the solution on bugzilla comment #111:17
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Eddy_butcherbird just one, but with a lot of partitions11:17
remyforbes777i cant seem to get it to work in my amd turion 64 laptop11:17
Oetzijc-denton: i didn't reconfigure locales11:17
jc-dentonOetzi: solution on bugzilla?11:17
remyforbes777freezes at login11:18
eagleyeyeah, need help11:18
ompaulEddy_, I was not here for that, okay first up you can do some evil stuff with the install disk where you do everything but do not reinstall the os just do the grub bit  have you got a live CD?11:18
jc-dentoni have breezy no hoary11:18
dseomnLasseL: it's in main on breezy, it might not be in hoary/warty, what are you using?11:18
jakudo you know where I can find a gui to help me to see wmv file with breezy?11:18
LasseLdseomn, hoary11:18
butcherbirdEddy_, including a windows partition?11:18
Oetzijc-denton: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1372411:18
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Oetzitry solution from comment #111:18
Eddy_ompaul when i try to install only GRUB from the expert mode of the install CD, there is an error, i cannot install it11:18
Eddy_butcherbird yes, including an XP OS, and 3 NTFS partitions11:19
ompaulEddy_, have you got a live CD ?11:19
Eddy_ompaul no, i have only an Install CD11:19
Oetziif you have another machine using hoary11:19
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ompaulEddy_, know where you could get one?11:19
jc-dentonOetzi: thank you11:20
butcherbirdEddy_,  you might check and see if windows is switched to bootable.  For some unknowable reason grub didnt work until i did that11:20
butcherbirdshouldnt matter..11:20
dseomnLasseL: sorry, it's not in hoary11:20
Oetzii couldn't test this because my notebook with the problem runs breezy and all other machines run debian sarge11:20
Eddy_ompaul i could download one, but not before tomorrow, and then i still wouldn't know what to do =)11:20
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eagleyeompaul, will that restore a install, I get error 18 when grub starts11:20
LasseLdseomn, thanks anyway11:20
Eddy_butcherbird GRUB used to work with Hoary, but there was a problem when i installed Breezy, for some reason it crashed, and now i'm stuck =/11:21
AdmiralSennhaha11:21
AdmiralSennhahahaahahahaha11:21
AdmiralSennIT LIVES11:21
AdmiralSennI think11:21
AdmiralSennoh hell11:21
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Oetzibut i thought about downloading hoary livecd grep all needed files from there and try it11:21
AdmiralSennit's gone11:21
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jc-dentonOetzi: i'm wondering when it will be fixed11:21
Oetzijc-denton: i hope soon11:21
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protok0lhello all11:22
protok0li need some help11:22
dseomnjust ask11:22
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Oetzibecause breezy is the only dist really supports all hardware in my notebook11:22
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ompaulEddy_, it appears that there are a couple of things that error 15 can mean which is yours?11:22
protok0li just checked for upgrades and it says i need a lot of packages, and its removing things like fam and the trashapplet11:22
protok0lis that right?11:22
Eddy_<Oetzi> because breezy is the only dist really supports all hardware in my notebook <== my point was to test that, but it kind of failed ^^11:22
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Eddy_ompaul how would i know ,11:22
dseomnprotok0l: what are you upgrading? breezy => breezy? hoary => breezy?11:23
Eddy_ompaul it displays nothing else than Error 1511:23
ompaulahh11:23
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eagleyeI asked for help, but no answers yet.. error 18 when grub starts11:23
Eddy_GRUB loading, please wait...11:23
Eddy_Error 1511:23
Eddy_=)11:23
Eddy_(the =) is added by me)11:24
ompauleagleye, you asked me I am busy I mioght be back if you have patients11:24
eagleyeok thanks11:24
protok0li had hoary and i dont believe i added any breezy repos11:24
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ompaulEddy_, at that time hit enter and it might give more info11:24
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Oetziso I have to go to bed now because i have to be to work 6:00AM tomorrow11:24
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Oetzigood night everyone11:24
kb9way(synaptic:29948): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_tree_view_unref_tree_helper: assertion `node != NULL' failed11:24
Eddy_ompaul Enter does nothing, prompt is prompting, nothing else11:24
loststrykbed ? that a new fangled concept or something ?11:24
kb9waywhat does that error meen11:24
ompaulEddy_, ohh that is not nice11:24
Eddy_is it ^^11:24
dseomnprotok0l: if you just have hoary repos, nothing be removed (only security updates are allowed)11:25
protok0ldseomn, so could my apt be broken?11:25
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protok0lit shows alot of old version needing upgrading11:25
kb9way(synaptic:29948): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_tree_view_unref_tree_helper: assertion `node != NULL' failed11:25
Eddy_if anyone knows how to fdisk /mbr from a winXP bootable CD WITHOUT having to go in the recovery console, i'd be glad11:25
kb9waywhat does this meen11:25
dseomnprotok0l: what version of hoary are you upgrading from? the final stable version or an old dev version?11:25
loststrykget a win98 boot disk11:26
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loststrykwww.bootdisk.com i think11:26
protok0lfinal stable afaik11:26
protok0li installed it off a cd11:26
Eddy_loststryk i have no floppy, so no, but thanks11:26
ompauleagleye, this is what I got online for your error - looks like bad install  18 : Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS. This error is returned when a read is attempted at a linear block address beyond the end of the BIOS translated area. This generally happens if your disk is larger than the BIOS can handle (512MB for (E)IDE disks on older machines or larger than 8GB in general). Try an update for your BIOS and/or move yo11:26
ompaulur boot partition to the front (or at least into the appropriate range).11:26
loststrykok11:26
protok0land it did some updating before x loaded11:26
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dseomnprotok0l: are you *sure* you have no breezy (or hoary-backports) enabled?11:26
ompaulEddy_, okay 15 is usually a missing file or pointing to the wrong place11:26
protok0li turned off backports and updated11:27
protok0lill try again11:27
reborti cant ty 3 letters cause o ug http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16479?11:27
karenhi----- is there a easy photo editor that I can download ?11:27
loststrykkaren, tried gimp ?11:27
Eddy_ompaul you have to understand that whenever i use Ubuntu's install menu to install GRUB, isays there's an error and that it is impossible. so there must be something else at work than just a missing file.11:27
dseomnkb9way: it's probably nothing, is it related to any other problems?11:27
rebortkaren: the gim11:27
ompaulEddy_,  did not know that11:27
kb9wayno i just see it in the console window11:27
Eddy_ompaul yeah, quite confusing with all those lines huh =P11:28
ompaulEddy_,  okay so you never had a working system>?11:28
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dseomnkb9way: ignore it then, those things happen all the time11:28
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kb9wayok11:28
karenrebort--- new to this , where do i go to download that editor11:28
loststrykkaren, shoudl already be installed11:29
dseomnkaren: it's installed by default, just go to Applications => Graphics => GIMP Image Editor11:29
hhurttanormally ubuntu runs using utf8, right?11:29
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dseomnhhurtta: yes11:29
Eddy_ompaul i had. i used to have a perfectly working WinXP/Hoary dual boot managed by GRUB. when i tried to install (reformatting the linux partitions) Breezy "over" Hoary, the install went fine, until it reached the install of GRUB, which failed. when i rebooted next, GRUB displayed an error.11:29
karenthank you guys, very helpful.11:29
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hanswill mira scan driver ever be translated to linux?11:29
Eddy_now, when i try to reinstall GRUB, i have an error, and just cannot11:29
eagleyeompaul, didnt get  last part of your message, and/or move yo11:30
hhurttais there any way to make some application, eg gnome terminal to run with iso8859-15 by default?11:30
ompauleagleye, next line after the other stuff11:30
Eddy_eagleye and/or move your boot partition to the front (or at least into the appropriate range).11:30
dseomnhhurtta: not all apps can, but gnome-terminal can11:30
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ompaulEddy_, so you have data on that hoary install you want to keep?11:31
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dseomnhhurtta: (in g-t) Terminal => Set Character Encoding... => <select latin15>11:31
hhurttadseomn: I can change that on the fly, but I does not do that by default11:31
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eagleyeompaul, does that mean make a small partition for install?11:31
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hyperactivecrondhey all11:31
ompaulEddy_, is your /home on a different partition to / ?11:31
dseomnhhurtta: sorry, I don't know how to do it by default11:32
erUSULhhurtta: why do you want this?11:32
dseomnhi hyperactivecrond11:32
Eddy_ompaul no, i've done the backup work already. it's only the GRUB thing that bothers me, i'm quite experienced with comps in general, so no problem on that side =) my problem is just that GRUB crashes, and i don't know how to reset/remove it with only the install CD11:32
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Eddy_ompaul i never had the occasion to access my /home since GRUB crashed first boot. however, since i have not specified anything, i guess it is.11:32
hhurttaerUSUL: I have screen+irssi running on external server which uses latin15.11:32
thinmani can not send mail at localhost, and i am using postfix...can someone tell me what i am doing wrong?11:33
dseomnhhurtta: ssh handles encoding differences correctly IIRC11:33
dseomnthinman: have you changed any of the configuration?11:33
ompaulEddy_, did you define a different partition for /home, I did not understand if you said yes or no, get it wrong and loose anything you have on it11:33
hhurttadseomn: so you see this correctly 11:34
dseomnhhurtta: yes11:34
dseomnnvm, one ? in there11:34
ompauleagleye, no it means that you need grub to be installed at the start of the hard drive11:34
Eddy_ompaul no i didn't, and once again, please don't worry about my losing data =) i'm pretty sure i won't, and even if i do, it's nothing important. the problem here is GRUB =)11:34
hhurttagood for you, but I don't :)11:34
athahhurtta: do you need UTF-8 for anything? change default locale to an ISO-8859-15 one ?11:34
eagleyeompaul, not sure how to do that. im patient11:34
thinmandsseom: i installed as MTA...11:34
erUSULEddy_: reinstall GRUB with the live cd11:35
hhurttaatha: not really. problem is, how to do that11:35
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dseomnhhurtta: dpkg-reconfigure locales11:35
ompaulEddy_, okay here is what I would do if you don't care about the data - you don't have liveCD you don't have anything that works other than hoary and we are not sure if that will not kill off the problem11:35
Eddy_erUSUL how is it different than with the regular Install CD ? because, once again, when i do that, it fails.11:35
hhurttawill give that a tr11:35
hhurttay11:35
RMeisthi11:35
dseomnthinman: postfix is installed by default11:35
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RMeistdoes anyone know how to sort on size when doing du -hs *|sort ?11:36
Eddy_ompaul i'm not sure i have still hoary, i don't know where in the install process GRUB is installed, but i think that Breezy was already being installed when it crashed11:36
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Eddy_so i think i have a working fresh Breezy system11:36
Eddy_BUT GRUB doesn't work11:36
erUSULEddy_: i do not know if its different or not. i allways have reinstalled grub with the live cd11:36
Eddy_the only thing not working is GRUB here =/11:36
dseomnRMeist: don't use -h, use "sort -ms * | sort -n"11:36
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athahhurtta: generate needed locales with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales" and then select suitable using LANG variable in /etc/environment11:37
RMeistdseomn: hmm, ill try11:37
vladuz976how can i connect my digital camera to retrieve pictures?11:37
ompaulEddy_, I would install hoary - if it works  md5sum the breezy CD and if it is okay I would do a distupgrade as told here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade if you want to spend the night at it, or I would get a live CD and fix it tomorrow - and just for kicks I would also get a second live cd11:37
puffHm, CD Juicer doesn't seem to list mp3s as an output option;  guess I need to find the lame encoder.11:37
erUSULEddy_: you chroot to the hd install and isntall grub whith the configurastion of the hd install11:37
dseomnRMeist: btw, -m is megabytes you can also use -k11:37
athaif there is a more proper way, when please correct :)11:37
loststrykanyidea why the following is using high levels of the processor ? 5675 root      15   0  136m  47m 9048 S  2.3  5.3  49:17.44 Xorg11:37
loststryk somestimes more then 15% think it's laging gnome :( any help would be appreciated11:37
ompaulEddy_, your call :)11:37
erUSULvladuz976: with USB ;)?11:37
hhurttaatha: yes. Its funny how you can use linux for years and still learn new stuff almost every day :)11:38
vladuz976erUSUL: yes usb11:38
ompaulEddy_, and your call is?11:38
thinmandseomn: i'm configuring postfix through ISPConfig ?11:38
ompauleagleye, my guess is you never had a working system?11:38
rayhi ppl, how can i access my pc with ubuntu on remotely and login as myself?11:38
dseomnthinman: what's ISPConfig?11:38
joduak...i need major help...i dunno how long i have  When i turn  my laptop on and connect i only have a few minutes before it shuts off...then when i retry  ./network_up  then dhclient wlan0....it tries to connect...along the path says something about no dhcp offers....then give me the error " no working leases in persistant databse -sleeping"   Any ways of staying connected for a long time?11:38
thinmandseomn: i can send mail out-bounce11:38
Eddy_ompaul my call is that i'm 99% sure that the CD is correct, i don't have a hoary install left, and i'd rather install from a CD than do an upgrade =) so my call is: i'll try finding how to tweak GRUB11:39
erUSULvladuz976: if the camera is conected it should have appeared as an usb disk if not try gthumb11:39
thinmandseomn: ispconfig.org11:39
vladuz976erUSUL: what if i am not using gnome?11:39
Eddy_oh god....11:39
ompaulEddy_, to do that you need to get a live CD to get at the disk if your not getting a prompt11:39
eagleyeyes, i have, but had some problems with hard drives. i put in a new one, 80gig last night and had everything working fine, restarted today and got that error11:39
erUSULvladuz976: are you using kde11:40
RMeistdseomn: du -s *|sort -nr   workx fine, tnx:)11:40
Eddy_when i start the partitioner... i see a box with "[!!]  partition disks" as the title, and then "??? ???" and then "go back" and "continue".......11:40
dseomnthinman: what are you trying to configure? mail hub? outgoing only?11:40
dseomnRMeist: np, I use it somewhat regularly11:40
puffhttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-957.html11:40
ompauleagleye, emm did the disk you replaced have data on it?11:40
erUSUL?11:40
vladuz976erUSUL: no, enlightenment11:40
puffDoes that set of instructions for getting juicer doing mp3s look up to date?11:40
eagleyeompaul had, xp on it..11:40
hyperactivecrond!tell puff about mp311:41
erUSULwell then you have to mount the camera manualy ... try pmount /dev/sda111:41
ompauleagleye, yeap and it also had the information grub wants I imagine11:41
RMeistdseomn: too bad that the M notation can't be used easy, oh well.11:41
ompaulEddy_, change to ctrl alt f2 and see if you have a shell11:42
eagleyehuh, I had the install erase the entire disk..11:42
loststrykhas anyone experianced system lagging on gnome ?11:42
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dseomnthinman: fyi, there's a #ubuntu-de if german's your native language11:42
erUSULEddy_: boot with the live cd and then mount the root partition, then chroot to it and install grub worked for me11:42
ompauleagleye, have a look at this11:42
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Eddy_hmmm11:42
kuRupTehm11:42
kuRupThalllo?11:42
ompaul!tell eagleye about grub11:42
Eddy_ok, i'll try to see how that goes11:42
Eddy_thanks for your help, it's really appreciated11:43
ompaulEddy_, is it the system you are now on?11:43
dseomnkuRupT: hi, if you have a question, feel free to just ask11:43
puffhyperactivecrond: Thanks.11:43
Eddy_ompaul i'm sorry i didn't understand your last question11:43
hyperactivecrondnp puff11:43
thinmanafter change main.cf of postfix... do i need to rerun anything to make it changed?11:43
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ompaulEddy_, the system you are now on, is that the one with this grub error?11:43
dseomnthinman: yes, "/etc/init.d/postfix force-reload"11:43
loststryk!tell loststryk  about lag11:43
erUSULthinman: restart postfix /etc/init.d/postfix restart11:44
Eddy_ompaul no, i'm talking with you on my desktop comp and i'm working on my laptop11:44
loststrykthis is getting annoying :( can somebody help me with a gnome lag / freeze problem ?11:44
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UbuntuOneHello people11:44
hyperactivecrondloststryk, file a bug report11:44
ompaulEddy_, have a look for a thing called 'recovery is possible' its a distro if your machine can burn it might be worth a whirl11:44
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UbuntuOneWhat is happenyng exacly loststryk??11:44
Eddy_ompaul ok, i'll google it11:44
ompaulEddy_, good luck11:45
Eddy_cheers mate11:45
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loststryki have sevreral programs running; but loads are spiking to high levels every 20-30 seconds etc; gnome is really sluggish :(11:45
jodua_k so i did get d/c and hap to restart my laptop..did anyone have an answer to my prob?11:45
loststrykkinda stops and starts11:45
UbuntuOne:/ What programs are running and how much RAM do you have?11:46
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carrarroHello there. I have been trying to find out how to get a C/C++ Dvelopment Toolkit on Ubuntu 5.04, but I am stuck. Can anyone helo, please?11:46
loststrykpftpfxp-mew, xchat, evolution email, gftp, remote desktop and a terminal window and i have a gig of ram11:46
dseomncarrarro: any one in particular?11:46
erUSULcarrarro: install buil-essentials11:46
jodua_when i do get connected the 1st time it says " bound to <#>  -renewel in 38941 seconds"  so i dunno if that has anything to do with it11:46
erUSULcarrarro: install buil-essential11:47
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carrarrodseomn: not one in particular,11:47
dseomnerUSUL: b-e != dev toolkit11:47
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UbuntuOneRemote desktop is quite demanding :/ all other should work :/11:47
dseomn*d-e11:47
loststrykeven with remote desktop not runnign still happens, in 'top' Xorg keeps flying high11:48
carrarroerUSUL: I did that, but I don't know where to find the application. I guess that I'm looking for an Icon in the application list, but I could be wrong.11:48
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thinmani changed my mail-domain in main.cf of postfix and restart postfix, but it keep sending out email with old domain.   any idea ?11:48
erUSULcarrarro: you want a grafical ide for c and c++ right? installl anjuta or kdevelop11:49
darkheartthinman You probably need to change $myorigin11:49
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carrarroerUSUl: Yes. Let me look that up.11:49
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jofaanyone -  success installing gxiso-1.5? When running 'sudo python setup.py install' as suggested by the README, it stops on: ' error: can't copy 'po/tmp/fr/gxiso.mo': doesn't exist or not a regular file'. What does this mean?11:49
eagleyeompaul, can you please send me those links again, lost them by accident.. thanks11:49
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Eddy_ompaul sorry i cannot answer your queries, i am unregistered =/11:50
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vertzHello, what do i need to do to get bluetooth working? got a bluetooth usb dongle from BCS11:50
carrarroerUSUl: Thank you. I found somthing on google. I'll come back if I get stuck again.11:51
dseomnvertz: you could upgrade to breezy preview, I don't think it's very easy with hoary11:51
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jodua_does anyone else have the problem of staying connected11:51
thinmandarkheart: thank you, it worked! :) but i still can not send mail at local11:51
Eddy_is it possible to burn a win98 boot diskette on a CD (and to boot on it obviously) ?11:51
loststrykno jodua_; quite the oppisite :)11:51
vertzdseomn: and in breezy it should just work?11:51
jodua_-*(11:51
leagrishello11:51
darkheartthinman Np, what do you mean 'local'? Join #postfix and explain your problem a little more.11:52
dseomnvertz: it should, but I haven't used it, so YMMV11:52
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loststryki'm hetting 300-400KB/s downlosd on a 1mbit line =oD11:52
jodua_loststryk  do you know much about my problem though?11:52
vertzdseomn: alright thanks11:52
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carlos_hola a todos11:52
leagrisis the a way in ubuntu to setup which cups server tu use system wide and not as per user only ?11:52
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loststrykjodua_, i'm just a n00b; so probably not :)11:52
carlos_habla alguien espaol11:52
thinmandarkheart: ok thanks11:52
dseomncarlos_: #ubuntu-es11:52
darkheart!es11:53
leagrisI use a dedicated cups server on the lan11:53
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.11:53
jodua_loststryk  same here...thats my problem...but im not going to windows so i need help lol11:53
leagrisevery computer on the network don't have a local printer11:53
carlos_aah vale gracias11:53
leagrisI don't wnant to setup the cups server for each box for each users11:53
loststrykme either; got everything i need running now :) not going back to m$11:53
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leagrisI think it is enough to set it up on each box for all users at once11:54
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ZBlachhi11:54
shagghas anybody else run into problems with upgrading Firefox to 1.0.7?11:54
_willcooke_shagg, Yes indeed!11:54
ZBlachshagg, i did, and then i had to replatform11:54
jodua_so when i connect it will stay on for a 1-3 minutes, then i get lucky once in a while and stay on for a while...which i seem to be doing now....but whenever it d/c me i tried to reconnect in console and it tells me there are " no working leases in persistant database -sleeping" anyone have any clue on how i can fix this?11:54
_willcooke_shagg, I fixed mine!11:54
shagggiddy up.  what's the FF workaround then?11:55
shagg(I had to go and install Epiphany so I could get on the web)11:55
ZBlachI've moved to breezy, and I can't get connected to my wireless network. How can I fix this?11:55
_willcooke_:) Assuming you have the same problem as I had.....11:55
dseomnZBlach: what card are you using?11:55
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_willcooke_try doing an apt-get upgrade from the command line, what does it tell you11:56
ZBlachdseomn, Linksys WMP11V2711:56
jodua__willcooke_ will that work for me too? i read somewhere to get upgrades?11:56
ZBlachgot the drivers installed, ndiswrappered and everything11:56
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shaggwait one...11:56
dseomnZBlach: sorry, I'm not familiar with ndiswrapper11:57
_willcooke_jodua_, That will tell you (& me) the error.  If it's the same error I had (one package would overwrite another) then I know the fix.  Otherwise, dunno.11:57
northern_monkhow do I lauch skippy from boot up?11:57
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ZBlachdseomn, maybe you can help me configure the Network Settings?11:57
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shaggI'm getting a dpkg error processing the FF .deb file.  Broken pipe.11:57
jodua_k i will try11:57
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dseomnZBlach: I doubt it, I've never done it the easy way (I use guessnet, wpasupplicant, and ifplugd)11:58
ZBlachkk11:58
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Perehello, how to install gnome 2.12 on ubuntu 5.04 horay?11:58
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_willcooke_shagg, Hmm, different problem to me.  try sudo apt-get update again and then sudo apt-get upgrade -f11:58
arkainiumHow can I get gnome to stop complaining that hal is not initialized?  I'm disabling hal intentionally.11:58
jodua__willcooke_  i did it and final line says "you may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems"  ??11:59
feralgirldoes anybody know where to get and how to install a driver for a D-Link G630 wireless card11:59
dseomnferalgirl: I'm using a G650, it worked w/ no configuration11:59
ZBlachanyone here experienced with wireless networking?11:59
leagrisAnyone know how to setup system wide settings with ubuntu ?11:59
leagrissettings for cups ?11:59

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