[12:00] <moparfan90> i need to install the correct drivers for my nvidia GeFource FX 5200 video card can someone help me one this pleas
[12:00] <moparfan90> please help me
[12:00] <ccooke> d2dchat: sorry I scared you
[12:00] <moparfan90> someone
[12:00] <d2dchat> ccooke, haha its ok
[12:00] <uojo> esoty haciendo un script en bash shell i tengo ya esto
[12:00] <uojo> for i in $(cat /home/meri/Desktop/ASO/passwd | tr -s ' ' '+' | tr -s ',' '+'); do
[12:00] <uojo> 
[12:00] <uojo> 		directori=$(echo $i | cut -d ':' -f 6)
[12:00] <uojo> 		echo "directori:$directori"
[12:00] <uojo>  done
[12:00] <darkheart> !tell uojo about es
[12:01] <Wipe-Out> hey
[12:01] <d2dchat> what happened to my terminal???
[12:01] <d2dchat> :(
[12:01] <uojo> sorry
[12:01] <nalioth> uojo: no more pasting in here, please
[12:01] <darkheart> np
[12:01] <Wipe-Out> haha an other one
[12:02] <nalioth> uojo: what language does your computer speak?
[12:02] <chavo> binary
[12:02] <Wipe-Out> guys i need help installing gcc or at least a way to tell make where it's installed
[12:02] <dooglus> Wipe-Out: "sudo apt-get install gcc"
[12:02] <Wipe-Out> i installed it but it can;t be found :s
[12:02] <nalioth> Wipe-Out: install "build-essential"
[12:02] <dooglus> Wipe-Out: it's in /usr/bin/gcc
[12:02] <darkheart> Wipe-Out Try 'which gcc'
[12:02] <Wipe-Out> i know but when i do sudo make it can't find it
[12:02] <nalioth> dooglus: advise "build-essential" there are more things required than gcc
[12:03] <dooglus> nalioth: required for what?
[12:03] <Wipe-Out> installed the essentials
[12:03] <nalioth> Wipe-Out: install "build-essential"
[12:03] <nalioth> dooglus: he's missing his automake stuff
[12:03] <nixiac> dooglus, installed Hoary 5.04 last eve, takes only 100Mb for the Debian base, then, I added 'File server' and 'Desktop' that took it up to 1.9Gb used... including some Perl programming modules, and full KDE, and some other stuff, added in Synaptic...
[12:03] <dooglus> nalioth: build-essential doesn't include automake anyway?
[12:04] <ompaul> does the breezy live CD do installs?
[12:04] <Wipe-Out> automake?
[12:04] <ccooke> ompaul: no
[12:04] <ompaul> pity :)
[12:04] <nalioth> dooglus: i'm not a dev, but -essentials installes most everything one needs for compiling programs
[12:04] <ccooke> d2dchat: I recommend you back up /home before doing an install, no matter what.
[12:05] <nalioth> dooglus: that's why it's called "build-essentials" and not "gcc"
[12:05] <moparfan90> does anyone know how to instal  nvidia drivers?
[12:05] <dooglus> Wipe-Out: automake makes configure files, which make Makefiles.  but most ubuntu packages come with configure scripts anyway
[12:05] <ompaul> !tell moparfan90 about nvidia
[12:05] <Wipe-Out> okay guys i know that the essentials need to be installed and i did gcc is installed but it can't be found what am i doing wrong?
[12:05] <ompaul> moparfan90, look at the message from the bot - ubotu
[12:05] <dooglus> nalioth: he was trying to find gcc I think though...
[12:05] <Wipe-Out> i'd like to do as much as possible in the terminal
[12:05] <moparfan90> ok
[12:05] <moparfan90> thanks
[12:06] <Wipe-Out> want to get rid of my n00b state
[12:06] <nalioth> Wipe-Out: "which gcc" returns nothing?
[12:06] <dooglus> nixiac: thanks for that
[12:06] <Wipe-Out> it tells me it wants gcc-3.4
[12:06] <grndslm> anybody wanna help me?  I've got this Vaio TR1A that I'm trying to install Ubuntu on...everything goes fine until it asks for user name and password, I enter them, then it loops back to asking for user & pass again....over and over again
[12:06] <dooglus> Wipe-Out: if you need gcc-3.4, you should install gcc-3.4 - it's a different package.
[12:06] <nalioth> Wipe-Out: so use synaptic to install gcc-3.4
[12:07] <Wipe-Out> thought it was included in the breezy badger release
[12:07] <dooglus> Wipe-Out: the default gcc in breezy is 4
[12:07] <nalioth> Wipe-Out: no, only gcc-4.0
[12:07] <Wipe-Out> what!? so i need to downgrade?
[12:07] <dooglus> Wipe-Out: you can have both installed.  they don't conflict
[12:07] <nalioth> Wipe-Out: it wont downgrade
[12:07] <terje> hi, I'm having trouble getting PHP4 going on hoary. It keeps wanting to download the index.php file, rather than render it.
[12:07] <dooglus> Wipe-Out: although /usr/bin/gcc will still be a symlink to 4.0
[12:08] <Wipe-Out> a okay so where can i find gcc-3.4
[12:08] <khermans> anyone have trouble printing in the new Breezy evince package?  I get junk text for output
[12:08] <ccooke> wipe-out: synaptic
[12:08] <dooglus> Wipe-Out: same place as everything else.  apt-get it
[12:08] <nalioth> Wipe-Out: use synaptic
[12:08] <thread> anyone else lost their synaptic touchpad after upgrading to breezy?
[12:08] <Wipe-Out> have got no i-net connection yet with lin ux :s
[12:08] <nixiac> Wipe-Out:  Been 'doin' Nix and BSD, since 1997, and am STILL a noob, cuz, I have to run them ALL!  have about 40 mochines here, I love junkers, curbside 'donations'!~ So been 'doin' Ubuntu about 24 hours.
[12:08] <khermans> thread, no
[12:08] <henke> grndslm, are you sure that you are entering them correctly?
[12:08] <ccooke> Wipe-Out: just search for 'gcc-3.4'
[12:08] <thread> khermans: maybe not you, but I see others on the forum in the same boat
[12:08] <ccooke> thread: lost how?
[12:09] <thread> unfortuantely, nobody has a good answer for me
[12:09] <thread> it's just a regular touchpad
[12:09] <grndslm> henke: don't think i could enter them any other way...done it many times on other computers, same distro....Vaio just loops
[12:09] <thread> no synaptic features
[12:09] <thread> x log says (EE) Synaptics Touchpad no synaptics touchpad detected and no repeater device
[12:09] <ccooke> thread: but it still works as a trackpad?
[12:09] <henke> grndslm, have you tried changing the password?
[12:09] <thread> I have EVDEV built into my kernel... synaptics worked before I upgraded
[12:09] <Wipe-Out> nixiac: this compiling and installing of my Wlan stuff is realy giving me a mayor crash corse :P been at it for about 3 days
[12:09] <thread> ccooke: yeah.. it works...
[12:10] <grndslm> henke: many times, short characters, no characters (not possible), long characters, etc....do the same for user name too
[12:10] <[orp> i people
[12:10] <ccooke> thread: tried installing tpconfig?
[12:10] <ccooke> thread: it may give you some help
[12:10] <Wipe-Out> nixiac: i've only worked with nux for about 3 days as a matter O' fact
[12:10] <[orp> some one help me?
[12:11] <henke> grndslm, is this when it asks you to create a user?
[12:11] <grndslm> yup
[12:11] <nixiac> Wipe-Out:  Man,LAN jsut does it automatically, it appeaars, to me!  You got on-board sis-900 chip or sumpfing?
[12:11] <[orp> i need some sevices like postfix start on boot
[12:11] <thread> ccooke: it says it can't open my ps2 port (/dev/psaux) ... what does that mean?
[12:11] <thread> ccooke: the file exists...
[12:11] <ccooke> thread: run it under sudo
[12:11] <henke> grndslm, there might be some more knowledgeable people in #debian-boot. The installer people hide there.
[12:11] <Wipe-Out> nixiac: nah got a PCMCIA belkin Wlan card
[12:11] <grndslm> henke:  thanks, i'll check it out
[12:11] <henke> grndslm, I hope they don't mind even though it is ubuntu related
[12:11] <thread> ccooke: ah... it says Found Synaptics Touchpad\nFirmware: 8.96 (multiple-byte mode).
[12:12] <nalioth> [orp: if you ask a question to the channel
[12:12] <dooglus> [orp: if you install postfix, it should start at boot by default
[12:12] <Wipe-Out> nixiac: been fighting with installing ndiswtrapper it tought me a lot
[12:12] <henke> grndslm, they might have heard about it before.
[12:12] <grndslm> henke:  i doubt they'll mind...thanks again for the tip
[12:12] <[orp>  i need some sevices like postfix start on boot ?
[12:12] <[orp> can you help me^?
[12:13] <thread> ccooke: tpconfig -i tells me all the good stuff... looks perfect. why isn't x failing to recognize my synaptics touchpad?
[12:13] <ccooke> thread: hmm
[12:13] <[orp> i start it and wen boot it dont start
[12:13] <ccooke> thread: I'm not sure.
[12:13] <nixiac> Wipe-Out: OOPS, you gotta make sure you got the pcmcia loaded in the build of lyour system, when you install!  Mine asks (through over a hundred installs! on several dozens of machines), but, I have NO pcmcia cards...
[12:13] <dooglus> [orp: get sysv-rc-conf - that's good for editing what starts at boot
[12:13] <[orp> ok
[12:14] <ccooke> thread: I have a similar touchpad, also not working - although I didn't configure it in hoary.
[12:14] <B_166-ER-X> Why does when i do 'import' in the firefox manage folder... it just closes firefox :|
[12:14] <henke> grndslm, oh, and when I think about it. Have you looked for any suspicious output in the other consoles?
[12:14] <ccooke> thread: I'll see if I can get it working, and let you know
[12:14] <B_166-ER-X> Manage bookmarks that is
[12:14] <thread> ccooke: cool... I'm just out of ideas here... seems like it should be working at this point
[12:14] <ccooke> thread: oh, one thing - try 'grep -i synapt /var/log/Xorg.0.log'
[12:15] <Wipe-Out> nixiac: well the PCMCIA slot is installed it even sees the card but this ndiswrapper is doing my head in
[12:15] <thread> http://quicken.ath.cx/syn.txt
[12:15] <sunshine> hi cc cooke do you know anytthing about sownload
[12:15] <grndslm> henke: nope, didn't do that...tried getting into a terminal from the boot loader, but was limited to ash and basic commands
[12:15] <Wipe-Out> nixiac: also tried to install USB Wlan but thought that would be an easy way out :P
[12:15] <ccooke> sunshine: sownload?
[12:15] <ccooke> sunshine: no...
[12:15] <sunshine> i am tryin to download java but every
[12:16] <ccooke> ah, you need java?
[12:16] <sunshine> time the file is unknown
[12:16] <nalioth> sunshine: hoary or breezy?
[12:16] <sunshine> yes
[12:16] <JustinHH> i'm back...  all xlibs are instaled but during the configuration: checking for X... no
[12:16] <JustinHH>    /checking if you want to ignore X at all... no
[12:16] <JustinHH> Can not find the X libraries.
[12:16] <JustinHH> ### Make sure that X is installed on your system and try to run configure again,
[12:16] <JustinHH> ### this time passing the --x-includes and --x-libraries options.
[12:16] <B_166-ER-X> Why does when i do 'import' in the firefox manage bookmarks folder... it just closes firefox :|
[12:16] <sunshine> breezy
[12:16] <ccooke> sunshine: apt-get install java-package
[12:16] <nalioth> JustinHH: do not paste in here
[12:16] <nalioth> JustinHH: read the /topic
[12:16] <JustinHH> soory
[12:16] <ccooke> sunshine: then download the file from sun
[12:16] <ccooke> sec
[12:16] <JustinHH> sorry
[12:16] <sunshine> i got java package
[12:16] <nalioth> ccooke: no
[12:16] <nalioth> sunshine: hoary or breezy
[12:16] <Wipe-Out> bad boy :P
[12:17] <nalioth> sunshine: are you using hoary or breezy?
[12:17] <joetheodd> How do I tell what version of Ubuntu I'm running?
[12:17] <ccooke> nalioth: no what?
[12:17] <JustinHH> next time
[12:17] <nalioth> joetheodd: open a terminal and type lsb_release -a
[12:17] <henke> grndslm, I meant the other virtual consoles while you are in the installer. There are a few debug consoles.
[12:17] <nalioth> ccooke: i have ubuntu java debs, if sunshine will tell me which one (s)he is using
[12:18] <ccooke> nalioth: sun java?
[12:18] <ccooke> what's the advantage of them over the ones built by java_package?
[12:18] <nalioth> ccooke: yes sun
[12:18] <grndslm> henke, i know what you're referring to...I just never thought about that....I'll have to fire up the laptop one more time.
[12:18] <sunshine> breezy
[12:18] <nalioth> ccooke: they were made for breezy or hoary
[12:18] <joetheodd> When I run apt-get dist-upgrade it doesn't download any packages, but lsb_release -a says I'm running warty.
[12:19] <nalioth> sunshine: http://giannaros.org/tor/bt/
[12:19] <ccooke> nalioth: I'm using the java_package ones now - they seem to integrate fine. What's the difference?
[12:19] <Raunok> anyone know of any good news readers that work with ubuntu?
[12:19] <nalioth> joetheodd: does it have "warty" or "hoary" in your /etc/apt/sources.list  ?
[12:19] <Wipe-Out> just one more question does gcc-3.4.4-20050522-1-src.diff.gz work in ubuntu?
[12:19] <ccooke> Raunok: most of them. I use slrn, which is a text-mode one...
[12:19] <nalioth> ccooke: the debs install more easily for unfamiliar users
[12:20] <ccooke> nalioth: but they'r just the ones java_package would make?
[12:20] <joetheodd> nalioth: warty
[12:20] <war-totem> anyone know how to have urlview open with epiphany?
[12:20] <Raunok> i would prefer a gui based, just because im new at it, and i tried pan but i couldn't figure out how in the world to compile/configure/install it
[12:20] <dooglus> thread: I have a synaptics touchpad and I've not had to do anything at all to get it working in breezy.
[12:20] <sunshine> i dont know how do i check
[12:20] <nalioth> ccooke: i'm not sure how seveas made them, but they're sun java
[12:20] <nalioth> sunshine: check what?
[12:21] <BooZee> how do I install .deb files?
[12:21] <dooglus> thread: I've put some information here: http://s89213869.onlinehome.us/synaptics.txt - maybe it'll help you
[12:21] <ccooke> nalioth: hmm. so we have potentially two *different* version of the sun java packages?
[12:21] <nalioth> BooZee: "sudo dpkg -i file.deb"
[12:21] <B_166-ER-X> Why does when i do 'import' in the firefox manage bookmarks folder... it just closes firefox :|
[12:21] <nalioth> ccooke: there are no more Sun java in the repos
[12:21] <adrianoc> where i find a good source.list from ubuntu ?
[12:21] <nalioth> ccooke: there is gnu java (which sucks) and Sun java
[12:22] <joetheodd> nalioth: apt-get install java_package is Sun Java?
[12:22] <nalioth> ccooke: you can jump through hoops (some insurmountable for new to *nix users) and get the bin from sun, or you can use the debs
[12:22] <ccooke> nalioth: okay. are your packages going to get into main, restricted, universe or multiverse?
[12:22] <nalioth> !tell adrianoc about sources
[12:22] <nalioth> joetheodd: there is no sun in the repos
[12:22] <Hikaru79> Hello, Seveas? May I PM you? (again? *blush*)
[12:22] <nalioth> ccooke: the pkgs i have links to are illegal
[12:22] <nalioth> ccooke: but they are easy to install
[12:23] <ccooke> nalioth: Right. Then that's not a good thing to do.
[12:23] <joetheodd> nalioth: How can I install Sun Java?
[12:23] <adrianoc> yes? my source.list is empty
[12:23] <Seveas> Hikaru79, no, I'm in a meeting now
[12:23] <sunshine> never mind
[12:23] <obontu> hello, i'm looking for p2p apps for linux, non emule or bt
[12:23] <dooglus> obontu: nicotine?
[12:23] <obontu> gnutella and such
[12:23] <nalioth> joetheodd: hoary or breezy?
[12:23] <obontu> nicotine?
[12:23] <obontu> what's that?
[12:23] <dooglus> obontu: it's a soulseek clone
[12:23] <joetheodd> obontu: limewire
[12:23] <Hikaru79> Ah, sorry! :(
[12:23] <obontu> i installed limewire
[12:23] <obontu> but it won't work
[12:23] <obontu> i tried to install java
[12:23] <joetheodd> nalioth: warty, but hoary, because I'm upgrading
[12:24] <ccooke> nalioth: Illegal in that you're breaking the license redistributing, right?
[12:24] <obontu> everything went well
[12:24] <obontu> but, it won't load
[12:24] <nalioth> obontu: try gtk-gnutella
[12:24] <BooZee> i think something got scrued up in my transfer to KDE.
[12:24] <obontu> ok
[12:24] <nalioth> ccooke: yes. illegal in licensing
[12:24] <BooZee> i can't log in as adminisitrator, when using the control
[12:24] <ccooke> nalioth: right. If you're breaking the license for nonstandard packages, might as well do it for standard ones.
[12:24] <B_166-ER-X> Why does when i do 'import' in the firefox manage bookmarks folder... it just closes firefox :|, or else if somebody can point me where i could find any help on this ??
[12:24] <nalioth> joetheodd: when you are done upgrading to hoary, get your java here http://www.giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/
[12:24] <obontu> where can i find gtk-gnutella
[12:24] <obontu> ?
[12:24] <Raunok> BooZe: you mean root?
[12:25] <hyperactivecrond> obontu, limewire ;)
[12:25] <ccooke> nalioth: java_package *builds* debs from the Sun java installer.
[12:25] <obontu> ah found it
[12:25] <BooZee> nope, administrator
[12:25] <obontu> i tried limeware
[12:25] <obontu> wire
[12:25] <ccooke> So, use that to build the debs (I can provide my copies)
[12:25] <obontu> couldn't can it to work
[12:25] <ccooke> and distribute those
[12:25] <hyperactivecrond> ah.
[12:25] <nalioth> !tell obontu about synaptic
[12:25] <ccooke> that way, there is only *one* source of debs.
[12:25] <obontu> it's ok
[12:25] <obontu> found them thanx
[12:25] <joetheodd> nalioth: When I've finished apt-get dist-upgrade for hoary, do I need to restart?
[12:25] <ccooke> which will make support *vastly* easier.
[12:25] <BooZee> first, it asked for my password, and after thinking a bit, jumped me to another page.
[12:26] <nalioth> ccooke: ok. it does. i agree. but for new users who dont have a clue about building anything, the seveas-made one is easier
[12:26] <nalioth> joetheodd: yes, b/c you'll have installed a new kernel
[12:26] <ccooke> nalioth: no, it isn't.
[12:26] <sunshine> ccooke that a god thing this is why my friend put ubuntu on my computer
[12:26] <sunshine> it harder to break
[12:26] <ccooke> sunshine: *grin*
[12:27] <evian> how do I edit my "Places" menu at the top of the screen? I want to add a folder.
[12:27] <sunshine> I broke window xp three times
[12:27] <BooZee> where do I choose what X will be the default session?
[12:27] <dooglus> B_166-ER-X: you could try looking in the mozilla bugzilla
[12:27] <ccooke> nalioth: java_package builds *one* deb file.
[12:27] <ccooke> nalioth: distribute that.
[12:27] <joetheodd> nalioth: and how do you install a .deb?
[12:27] <nalioth> ccooke: ask seveas when he returns why he made them if using the bin is easier
[12:27] <joetheodd> *makes sure he writes this down*
[12:27] <B_166-ER-X> dooglus ,i've been browsing all over...i dont see anything about this bug :|
[12:27] <dooglus> B_166-ER-X: what version?  and exactly how can I reproduce it?
[12:28] <nalioth> joetheodd: open a terminal where the deb is, and type "sudo dpkg -i file.deb"
[12:28] <ccooke> nalioth: where's your download again, anyway?
[12:28] <ccooke> nalioth: it may be he made them using the package *anyway*
[12:28] <nalioth> ccooke: for which? hoary or breezy?
[12:28] <ccooke> nalioth: and I'm just getting the wrong idea
[12:28] <thread> dooglus: no... that doesn't appear to help at all.. that's what I've got in xorg.conf, and it still insists that I don't have a synaptics mouse
[12:28] <ccooke> nalioth: try breezy.
[12:29] <joetheodd> Thanks nalioth, you're a great help. =)
[12:29] <dooglus> thread: hmmm.  sorry then.
[12:29] <nalioth> ccooke: http://giannaros.org/tor/bt/
[12:29] <nalioth> joetheodd: np ;)
[12:29] <dooglus> thread: because I've never had a problem with, I've not learnt anything about it...
[12:29] <thread> dooglus: thanks for tryin, tho :)
[12:29] <thread> dooglus: yea it has worked fine for me in the past, too
[12:29] <B_166-ER-X> dooglus ,  Hoary , firefox 1.0.7  ; i just go to manage folders, and click on 'Import' then Fx close
[12:29] <dooglus> B_166-ER-X: I'll try.
[12:29] <ccooke> nalioth: yep, those look like the ones I have. Do forgive me :-)
[12:29] <thread> dooglus: what version of xorg-driver-synaptics?
[12:30] <ccooke> nalioth: I got completely the wrong impression
[12:30] <thread> dooglus: dpkg-query -l |grep synaptics
[12:30] <typo> is it a known bug that nautilus can't open volumes because it tries to mount them when they're already mounted? All my external usb disks do this as well as CD's
[12:30] <dooglus> xorg-driver-synaptics: Installed: 0.14.3+revertedto+0.13.6-0ubuntu3
[12:30] <thread> same version I got
[12:30] <sunshine> why is bit torrent so slow
[12:30] <sunshine> it suppose to be fast
[12:31] <drbombay43> I am having a problem adding the cd as a repositorie, can some one please help, or tell me the best way to upgrade to breezy?
[12:31] <ccooke> sunshine: not enough people to download from. Or you're behind a firewall and not uploading much.
[12:31] <dooglus> sunshine: usually it's because your incoming ports are blocked
[12:31] <BooZee> how do I remove kubuntu?
[12:31] <nalioth> drbombay43: read the /topic
[12:31] <RMeist> !st
[12:31] <ubotu> RMeist: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[12:31] <RMeist> :)
[12:31] <dooglus> sunshine: if people can't connect to you, and you can't connect to them, it limits transfer speed.
[12:31] <Raunok> peace in the middle east
[12:31] <RMeist> Seveas: are u dutch?
[12:31] <hyperactivecrond> !remove kubuntu
[12:31] <ubotu> hyperactivecrond: Are you smoking crack?
[12:31] <BooZee> !remove kubuntu
[12:31] <dooglus> sunshine: you end up relying on people who have their ports opened, which isn't all of them
[12:32] <jsubl2> !remove kubuntu-desktop
[12:32] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, jsubl2
[12:32] <dooglus> ii  xorg-driver-synaptics                 0.14.3+revertedto+0.13.6-0ubuntu3    Synaptics TouchPad driver for X.Org server
[12:32] <adrianoc> please, i do make run synaptic, he talk, "password root incorret", but not possible this.
[12:32] <BooZee> !remove kubuntu
[12:32] <ubotu> BooZee: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[12:32] <sunshine> how do i let everyone in, is it safe to let everyone in
[12:32] <drbombay43> I did, edit repos, but when I chose add I do not get the cd as a choice
[12:32] <B_166-ER-X> theres a lot of bug related to my problem listed o n bugzilla, but since i dont have any more details on it..its hard to point out
[12:32] <soundray> Hi, need help with an OpenSSH problem please...
[12:32] <sunshine> or more people lin
[12:32] <BooZee> how do I remove kubuntu?
[12:32] <RMeist> soundray: tell.
[12:33] <darkheart> BooZee 'sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop'
[12:33] <thread> hey.... maybe it's this new kernel that got installed
[12:33] <nalioth> !tell adrianoc about root
[12:33] <crimsun> BooZee, use aptitude to remove kubuntu-desktop
[12:33] <soundray> Keys get swallowed when I type remotely
[12:33] <chavo> BooZee, turn your computer upside down and shake it real hard.
[12:33] <nalioth> crimsun: that only removes the metapackage
[12:33] <nalioth> BooZee: remove kdebase
[12:33] <RMeist> soundray: can you elaborate?
[12:33] <BooZee> just kubuntu-desktop? it will remove all the kubuntu?
[12:33] <dooglus> B_166-ER-X: I can't get firefox 1.0.7 to work at all now.  I've been using 1.50 for a week or so.  maybe my profile won't work with 1.0.7 any more.  looks like the bug is fixed in 1.50 anyway, so you could try that.
[12:33] <nalioth> BooZee: if you use synaptic you can check the boxes of the kde stuff you dont want
[12:33] <crimsun> nalioth, aptitude isn't smart enough to pull down the depends?
[12:34] <soundray> RMeist: As I type, the NumLock LED comes on shortly
[12:34] <nalioth> BooZee: be careful you dont break your box
[12:34] <BooZee> i want to completly remove KDE from my comp
[12:34] <nalioth> crimsun: not with metapkg removal
[12:34] <soundray> While it's on, it seems to turn keys into control sequences
[12:34] <crimsun> nalioth, k
[12:34] <B_166-ER-X> dooglus, ok... but i reinstalled it like today, is 1.50 in the universe sources ??
[12:34] <RMeist> soundray: connected to a 'fresh'  shell or to a screen perhaps?
[12:35] <ccooke> thread: Okay. I've verified that the synaptics driver is *loaded* on mine.
[12:35] <dooglus> B_166-ER-X: 1.50 isn't, no.  it's only a beta, available from mozilla.org
[12:35] <B_166-ER-X> hm
[12:35] <soundray> RMeist: Tried all of these, same effect.
[12:35] <B_166-ER-X> ok
[12:35] <dooglus> B_166-ER-X: I made a new profile for 1.0.7 and can't reproduce your bug.  try a new profile yourself - firefox -p - does that fix it?
[12:35] <B_166-ER-X> according to synaptic, 1.0.7 is the last version
[12:35] <sunshine> dooog how do I fix this so it can go faster, i m gettin tired i need to go to bed
[12:35] <funkyHat> B_166-ER-X, it is
[12:35] <spermite> i do: cd /usr/src/linux then make menuconfig?   then get:  make: *** no rule to make taget 'menuconfig'. Stop
[12:36] <funkyHat> B_166-ER-X, 1.50 is a beta
[12:36] <RMeist> soundray: stand by
[12:36] <dooglus> sunshine: you have a router?
[12:36] <soundray> RMeist: Thx
[12:36] <BooZee> it told me that it's unable to lock the administration dir, and that maybe another process is using it
[12:36] <sunshine> yes
[12:36] <nalioth> BooZee: close all apt instances. there can be only one
[12:36] <dooglus> sunshine: you need to tell the router to forward connections on tcp/6881 to your PC's ip address
[12:37] <dooglus> (and tcp/6882, 6883, 6884, and so on for each torrent you have running)
[12:37] <sunshine> how do I do that
[12:37] <B_166-ER-X> damn.   I created a new profile, and it crashed again on import (manage bookmarks)
[12:37] <dooglus> if you only use one torrwnt at a time, 6881 is enough.
[12:37] <B_166-ER-X> dooglus.
[12:37] <dooglus> what kind of router?
[12:37] <dooglus> B_166-ER-X: odd.
[12:37] <dooglus> B_166-ER-X: are you actually importing anything?  Or does it crash before the "file / opera" screen?
[12:37] <nalioth> B_166-ER-X: you using backports?
[12:38] <B_166-ER-X> dooglus i just click import and it crashes..
[12:38] <sunshine> dsl 500
[12:38] <B_166-ER-X> and altough i've heard of backports, i dont know nohing about it
[12:38] <RMeist> soundray: what version openssh and os
[12:38] <soundray> RMeist: Breezy, 4.1
[12:39] <soundray> RMeist: Tried downgrading to 3.9, no success.
[12:39] <RMeist> soundray: 4.1 or 4.1p1
[12:39] <dooglus> B_166-ER-X: from the 'file' menu, right?
[12:40] <soundray> RMeist: 4.1p1
[12:40] <B_166-ER-X> dooglus, nope, from 'bookmarks' --Manage bookmarks
[12:40] <dooglus> B_166-ER-X: what does this show?   dpkg-query -l firefox | grep firefox
[12:41] <RMeist> soundray: strange, assuming that it's all default config. suspecting a UTF-8 line character bug or something
[12:41] <dooglus> sunshine: try this: http://www.portforward.com/dlink/dsl-500.htm
[12:41] <soundray> RMeist: Oops, been playing with locales...
[12:41] <B_166-ER-X> dooglus, no packets corresponding to firefox
[12:41] <RMeist> soundray: ah
[12:41] <RMeist> soundray: there you go
[12:41] <RMeist> soundray: we hope:)
[12:42] <dooglus> B_166-ER-X: ooh - mozilla-firefox then?
[12:42] <soundray> RMeist: Thanks, I'll revert whatever Ive done and see if it helps.
[12:42] <puff> Weird...
[12:42] <RMeist> soundray: gluck.
[12:42] <puff> Okay, fixed that rhythmbox problem that was crashing my laptop.
[12:42] <B_166-ER-X> dooglus, well, it opens a browser
[12:42] <matiu> How do I downgrade mozilla-firefox please?
[12:43] <dooglus> B_166-ER-X: I'm using "firefox" not "mozilla-firefox" - I don't know why they're both in breezy.
[12:43] <B_166-ER-X> arr
[12:43] <matiu> I think mozilla-firefox depends on firefox!
[12:43] <thread> how is networking supposed to work now that I'm in breezy? is it supposed to come up from the 'networking' init script still? How do I configure it with my wireless encryption key etc? does it integrate with Network-Manager or -- how does it work?
[12:43] <funkyHat> dooglus, 'firefox' is from backports
[12:43] <funkyHat> i believe
[12:43] <dooglus> funkyHat: no, I've never used backports
[12:43] <matiu> I want to go back to mozilla-firefox 1.0.2
[12:43] <funkyHat> oh right
[12:43] <rukuartic> Quick question... looking into buying a router. Anyone using a wireless router who can reccomend one?
[12:43] <fredforfaen> !repositorys
[12:43] <ubotu> fredforfaen: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[12:44] <thread> rukuartic: I really like my ZyXel router
[12:44] <dooglus> looks like mozilla-firefox just contains 2 files: /usr/share/doc/mozilla-firefox/copyright and /usr/share/doc/mozilla-firefox/changelog.Debian.gz
[12:44] <fredforfaen> !repos
[12:44] <ubotu> rumour has it, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[12:44] <grndslm> rukuartic: WRT54G, best in class
[12:44] <B_166-ER-X> dooglus, altough synaptic only list mozilla firefox, and mozilla-firefox gnome support installed
[12:44] <sunshine> i've download w32codec from bittorrent but the debian binary is unknown what does that mean
[12:44] <zone17> Hi, would someone please check if firefox 1.0.7 doesn't crash at this site This site crashes firefox http://www.rapidhost.net/
[12:44] <rukuartic> looking to do wireless... does ubuntu support a wireless PCI card?
[12:45] <matiu> How can I tel apt to install a specific version?
[12:45] <puff> If anybody's curious, for some reason there was a "music player" entry in my gnome applications menu, and it would freeeze up everything when I got as far as importing the mp3s in the initial set up.
[12:45] <matiu> eg. apt-get install mozilla-firefox-1.0.2-0ubuntu5
[12:45] <rukuartic> zone17: works fine on 1.0.5
[12:45] <zone17> Had to go trough a lot of sites at work today and about every 20 times I see a new site firefox crashes
[12:45] <B_166-ER-X> what i dont understand, its my second hoary install...and the 1st time it was working right..
[12:45] <zone17> Thanks, rukuartic
[12:45] <fredforfaen> http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted is funky .....
[12:45] <bimberi> rukuartic: it does, check here though - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[12:45] <dooglus> B_166-ER-X: are you sure you don't have the 'firefox' package installed?  that's the only package which provides /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox according to apt-file search
[12:45] <fredforfaen> is there other repos that would do?
[12:45] <puff> no idea why it was there on a fresh install, but when I followed the "Restricted Formats" wiki page advice, and installed all the drivers and codecs, it doesn't freeze the system any more.
[12:45] <zone17> Seems that its only firefox 1.0.7 from ubuntu distro which is having this problem
[12:45] <lucky> hi, xchat, firefox and gaim all segmentation fault on startup
[12:46] <rukuartic> bimberi: Wow... didn't occur to me to check there :: bows:: thank you
[12:46] <lucky> i just installed 5.4 yesterday
[12:46] <bimberi> rukuartic: yw :)
[12:46] <B_166-ER-X> dooglus, a Search for firefox only list 'mozilla-firefox' and files starting with mozilla-firefox
[12:46] <fredforfaen> anyone?
[12:47] <JustinHH> i have got my xlibraries instaled but the configure program can not find them! where are they on my ubuntu system
[12:47] <JustinHH> ?
[12:47] <B_166-ER-X> mozilla-firefox - lightweight web browser based on Mozilla , thats what i have
[12:47] <B_166-ER-X> plus the gnome-support
[12:47] <zone17> people with 1.0.7 firefox, please check the site, there seems to be a serious problem with ubuntu firefox 1.0.7
[12:47] <matiu> mozilla-firefox has version 1.0.2 and 1.0.7 available but firefox only has 1.0.7
[12:47] <dooglus> zone17: it didn't crash 1.0.7 for me.  although it does have a java applet on it - could that be the problem?
[12:47] <Kensey> where are all the source packages for Ubuntu?
[12:48] <matiu> Kensey: packages.ubuntu.org
[12:48] <lucky> anyone?
[12:48] <dooglus> B_166-ER-X: how about uninstalling mozilla-firefox and installing firefox.  see what happens then...
[12:48] <funkyHat> Kensey, in the source repositories (enable them in /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:48] <B_166-ER-X> never crashed before ; just when tryingto import bookmarks
[12:48] <lucky> :s
[12:48] <Kensey> I can't menuconfig, gconfig or xconfig a kernel :(
[12:48] <funkyHat> or there ^
[12:48] <matiu> Kensey: then in the package itself, there is a link that says source
[12:48] <zone17> I don't know if it's the java, I only know a lot of people seems to experience crash, but not all
[12:48] <Kensey> funky: is any of that on the install CD?
[12:48] <fredforfaen> pls anyone?
[12:48] <zone17> trying to find out whats the difference
[12:48] <matiu> Kensey: download the tar.gz and the .diff and apply the diff
[12:49] <sorush20> I'm unable to load Ubuntu update
[12:49] <nalioth> JustinHH: install "xlibs-static-dev" also
[12:49] <funkyHat> don't think so
[12:50] <JustinHH> oh my good!!!
[12:50] <GoRoDeK> i have a problem using evolution: when adding a task, the application crashes. any known workarounds?
[12:50] <Kensey> thing is I can't download anything till I can get wireless net working.  And I can't do that till I can compile a kernel without preemption enabled.  And I can't compile a kernel (realistically) till I have the ncurses source :)
[12:50] <BooZee> how do I switch the logon screen (and actualy, the entire startup process) from kde to gnome?
[12:50] <B_166-ER-X> dooglus ; even thought my apt-cache search shows 'firefox' at the end of the results, apt-get install said there is no such packets
[12:51] <trigg> BooZee: do you have KDM or GDM installed?
[12:51] <B_166-ER-X> E: Impossible de trouver le paquet firefox
[12:51] <lucky> xlter% kicker: error while loading shared libraries: libfreetype.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[12:51] <BooZee> what is the M in the end of it?
[12:51] <lucky> on kubuntu
[12:51] <JustinHH> xlibs-static-dev doesn`t apear in synaptic
[12:51] <zone17> how do I check to see which versions of firefox are availible?
[12:51] <JustinHH> :((
[12:51] <BooZee> trigg: what is the M in the end of it?
[12:51] <nalioth> !tell JustinHH about sources
[12:52] <trigg> BooZee: Kde Display Manager or Gnome Display Manager
[12:52] <BooZee> oh. KDM
[12:52] <BooZee> i think..
[12:52] <B_166-ER-X> and synaptic doesnt list opera :|
[12:52] <zone17> how to get a list of versions of a program?
[12:52] <trigg> BooZee: open up synaptic . . . uninstall KDM, install GDM
[12:53] <BooZee> but it pops a window that asks me if I want to close the kde deamon or something like that, and when I confirm, the entire X disapears
[12:53] <BooZee> and I get a command line
[12:53] <jjazz> trigg:  Won't that kill the current instance of kdm?
[12:53] <BooZee> yes!
[12:53] <lucky> zsh: segmentation fault  sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:53] <BooZee> that's what happening
[12:53] <lucky> why does it do that?
[12:54] <trigg> BooZee, jjazz: go to a console and type "sudo apt-get install gdm:"
[12:54] <soundray> RMeist: still here?
[12:54] <rukuartic> Anyone use a Wireless PCI LinkSys Adapter?
[12:54] <jroes> is there anything you guys read daily with cool linux-related tips and stuff?
[12:54] <BooZee> with the ":" ?
[12:54] <jroes> like-- enabling a cool feature or using an interesting new app
[12:54] <trigg> BooZee, jjazz: then "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start"
[12:54] <jjazz> trigg:  I was just wondering if apt-get was somehow smart enough to know not to kill kdm if you were using synaptic. :P
[12:54] <jroes> I guess slashdot but with a bunch of howtos and guides that get submitted a bunch
[12:54] <linuxjeff> jroes: www.slashdot.org, www.osnews.com, www.newsforge.com, www.freshmeat.net
[12:55] <trigg> jjazz: I don't think so.  if you use apt-get then you should probably kill kdm first
[12:55] <jjazz> trigg:  Agreed.
[12:55] <TiagoTiago> hello
[12:55] <trigg> BooZee - no don't use the ":"
[12:55] <bimberi> jroes: #ubuntu can be pretty good for that sometimes :)
[12:55] <tylo> Hello
[12:55] <tylo> Does anyone here have any experience with Wine?
[12:56] <BooZee> trigg: it wont start it because it is not the default display manager
[12:56] <nalioth> jroes: #ubuntu-offtopic also
[12:56] <jroes> linuxjeff: those are good sites, but they are mainly news-related and don't have a lot of interesting random tips and things to check out.  for instance, it would be cool to see a guide for compiling the latest GNOME and Luminocity and stuff to get some cool Cairo effects...
[12:56] <jroes> bimberi: pretty much why I'm here :)
[12:56] <bimberi> :)
[12:56] <trigg> BooZee: from a console, do this "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm"
[12:56] <JustinHH> thanks nalioth
[12:56] <nalioth> jroes: have you been to gnome.org?
[12:57] <nalioth> JustinHH: np, is it working?
[12:57] <tylo> I'm having a problem with setting up Wine properly, and was wondering if anyone could help me out.
[12:57] <TiagoTiago> when installing I get a error  1, it says something about checking for enough space on /var/log or something like that
[12:57] <jroes> nalioth: yup, I'm currently perusing live.gnome.org (the wiki)
[12:57] <JustinHH> its downloading from the repository....
[12:57] <BooZee> trigg: invoke-rc.d: initscript gdm, action "reload" failed
[12:57] <JustinHH> downloading package information
[12:57] <BooZee> trigg: but it did let me select the gdm
[12:58] <tylo> I've checked the forums already, but no one seems to be having the same problem as I.
[12:58] <tylo> er, as me.
[12:58] <adrianoc> i need a source.list please ...
[12:58] <trigg> BooZee: hmm.  did you kill and restart your x-session?
[12:58] <JustinHH> nalioth, : its a bit hard for beginners like me to use ubuntu because it doesn't have many packages installed
[12:58] <JustinHH> :(
[12:58] <nalioth> !tell adrianoc about sources
[12:58] <BooZee> in the last session - yes..
[12:58] <JustinHH> but i hope i can manage it
[12:58] <BooZee> than I shutdown the comp, and started it again
[12:59] <nalioth> JustinHH: once you enable universe and multiverse repos, you'll have plenty to play with
[12:59] <BooZee> it used the kdm to load
[12:59] <adrianoc> this http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto is ver bad, don't functionally
[12:59] <BooZee> and I chose the gnome session
[12:59] <tylo> I'm having a problem installing the "Windows Installer" portion of Wine. Can anyone help me?
[01:00] <tylo> Or can anyone tell me how I can find out what version of Wine I am running?
[01:00] <zone17> Hi, how do I roll back to firefox 1.0.6?
[01:00] <trigg> BooZee: try this from the console "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop && sudo apt-get remove kdm"
[01:00] <zone17> I know I can do apt-get install mozilla-firefox= but I don't remember version number
[01:00] <trigg> BooZee: then do a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm"
[01:01] <TiagoTiago> when installing I get a error  1, it says something about checking for enough space on /var/log or something like that, am I doing anything wrong?
[01:02] <zone17> isn't there somewhere like on debian.org where it's possible to see all the different version numbers on a package?
[01:02] <soundray> zone17: ftp://archive.ubuntu.org
[01:02] <JustinHH> nalioth, : i think it's gonna work. but i must wait 20 min until i will download some packages.. if smth doesn't work i'll let you know ;)
[01:02] <adrianoc> why? Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-updates/universe/source/Sources.gz  403 Forbidden [IP: 82.211.81.151 80] 
[01:03] <soundray> zone17: sorry, ftp://archive.ubuntu.*com*/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/
[01:03] <dooglus> B_166-ER-X: have you done a "sudo apt-get update" recently?
[01:03] <zone17> soundray, thanks a lot! :-))
[01:03] <adrianoc> i install ubuntu now
[01:03] <dooglus> adrianoc: there are no updates yet, 'cos it's not released yet!
[01:04] <sobersabre> hi any breezy evolution exchange users here ?
[01:04] <soundray> zone17: There's no more 1.0.6 as far as I can see.
[01:04] <adrianoc> but my sources.list is empty
[01:05] <zone17> soundray, strange not even 1.0.5 is listed. I need to roll back to 1.0.6 or 1.0.5
[01:05] <nalioth> adrianoc: you have a list, or your apt wouldnt work
[01:05] <JustinHH> one single question. what can i do to hear mp3-files in ubuntu? i heard that i shoul get a plugin or smth? can i get it also with synaptic?
[01:05] <soundray> zone17: What's the problem?
[01:05] <kadigibox> hello.  I just did a server install.  What is the password for root?  I was never promted to enter password for root
[01:06] <RMeist> soundray: yeah
[01:06] <LightVision> hello
[01:06] <zone17> soundray, 1.0.7 keeps crashing a pages with java
[01:06] <bimberi> ubotu tell JustinHH about mp3
[01:06] <nalioth> !tell JustinHH about restricted
[01:06] <adrianoc> i want a sources.list any
[01:06] <funkyHat> kadigibox, there is no root password
[01:06] <nalioth> !tell kadigibox about root
[01:06] <funkyHat> kadigibox, use sudo, with your password
[01:06] <JustinHH> thx
[01:06] <LightVision> is it possible to always upgrade Firefox the latest versions if using ubuntu?
[01:06] <zone17> soundray, I have been asking people all day and a lot is experiencing the same problem, but not all.
[01:06] <nalioth> adrianoc: /msg ubotu sources
[01:06] <soundray> RMeist: got it working again, had to uninstall tleds.
[01:06] <kadigibox> O.o
[01:06] <kadigibox> thats messed up!
[01:06] <sobersabre> I have a problem setting up exchange account in evolution.
[01:07] <lucky> ok.  After a reboot
[01:07] <lucky> all the problems goe away
[01:07] <sobersabre> anybody can help ?
[01:07] <lucky> it crashed on me this way last night too.
[01:07] <sobersabre> it is breezy in here...
[01:07] <RMeist> soundray: tleds:) ok.
[01:07] <soundray> zone17: Can you point me to a page where you get a crash?
[01:07] <sobersabre> lucky, what are you talking about ?
[01:07] <LightVision> does Ubuntu come with Firefox?
[01:07] <zone17> soundray, yes one moment
[01:07] <RMeist> LightVision: yes
[01:07] <sobersabre> LightVision, yes
[01:07] <bimberi> LightVision: you bet
[01:08] <sobersabre> LightVision, no
[01:08] <RMeist> :)
[01:08] <soundray> RMeist: it shows network traffic by blinking the keyboard leds...
[01:08] <sobersabre> muhaha... gotcha.
[01:08] <bimberi> LightVision: confused? :)
[01:08] <zone17> soundray, http://www.rapidhost.net/
[01:08] <LightVision> ok but how does a person UPGRADE firefox everytime a new version Firefox comes out?
[01:08] <lucky> sobersabre:  Ubuntu crashed.  Every single application i started segfaulted and then the kernel panicked.  Now after a reboot it works fine.  This is starting to have the stability of Windows 98.
[01:08] <Seveas> LightVision, apt-get upgrade
[01:08] <sobersabre> lucky, which ubuntu version ?
[01:08] <bimberi> LightVision: the ubuntu update process will do that for you
[01:08] <TiagoTiago> can  I use the livecd to make the partitioning an formating for the install?
[01:08] <kadigibox> is there a way to install a different window manager then Gnome?
[01:08] <LightVision> Seveas:  what version of firefox are you using now?
[01:09] <Seveas> firefox upgrade are put into ubuntu on a matter of days to a week
[01:09] <lucky> sobersabre: uh, the latest, hoary hedgehog
[01:09] <RMeist> soundray: yes, I know it, did you run the 1.04?
[01:09] <Seveas> 1.0.7
[01:09] <sobersabre> lucky, i don't understand: you installed the system, after the initial reboot it started crashing ?
[01:09] <j-linux> I'm trying to install flashplayer for Firefox using sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla.  Am I doing something wrong?
[01:09] <LightVision> im using Debian Sarge atm, but Sarge cannot upgrade to latest version for many reasons, too much to say!  But IF i changed to ubuntu, is it possible to always upgrade to LATEST firefox as soon as new version comes out?
[01:09] <walde> kadigibox, what do you prefer?
[01:09] <lucky> sobersabre: yes.
[01:10] <lucky> its done it twice in as many days, sobersabre
[01:10] <sobersabre> lucky, i'm not your doctor, i don't have your desease history :)
[01:10] <soundray> RMeist: tleds_1.05beta10
[01:10] <Seveas> firefox upgrade are put into ubuntu on a matter of days to a week <---
[01:10] <LightVision> Seveas:  what version of firefox are you using now?
[01:10] <Seveas> so not the moment it comes out, but pretty soon after that
[01:10] <omp> :P
[01:10] <Seveas> 1.0.7 <---
[01:10] <RMeist> soundray: well allright, oh well, just have to set up you switch in sight then:P
[01:10] <bimberi> Seveas: deja vu?
[01:10] <sobersabre> lucky, and had windows also crashed with this machine ?
[01:10] <Seveas> bimberi, ;)
[01:10] <omp> lucky: hello
[01:10] <lucky> sobersabre: not sure, its a new machine.
[01:10] <thierry_> with what could I modify a .pdf file?
[01:10] <dooglus> LightVision: I'm running 1.50beta1 at the moment in ubuntu.  It's not an official ubuntu package, I got it from mozilla.org, but I can run it fine in ubuntu.
[01:10] <lucky> sobersabre: i haven't used windows in years anyway, but it ran freebsd stably for several days.
[01:10] <soundray> RMeist: I'm using the Gnome System Monitor now.
[01:11] <kadigibox> eather wmaker or xfce
[01:11] <thierry_> like cutting a part of it to make it printable
[01:11] <sobersabre> lucky, there are 3 reasons for crashing: user, software and hardware.
[01:11] <trigg> kadigibox: "sudo apt-get install xfce"
[01:11] <bimberi> thierry_: iirc the GIMP will open PDFs
[01:11] <sobersabre> let's eliminate user: did you try anything nasty like playing with kernel source and compiling it  ?
[01:11] <Seveas> sobersabre, there are 4
[01:11] <soundray> zone17: I've no problem with that page, what version of the Java plugin do you have?
[01:11] <lucky> sobersabre: no, its a pretty much fresh install.
[01:11] <zone17> soundray, no java installed
[01:11] <Seveas> user, user again, hardware, software :)
[01:12] <LightVision> what version of Firefox is the latest available on the ubuntu servers?  1.0.7?
[01:12] <j-linux> I'm having trouble installing Flash player.  Is sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla incorrect?
[01:12] <sobersabre> Seveas, let's give this one a chance
[01:12] <trigg> kadigibox: you can search for other packages with "apt-cache search packagename"
[01:12] <j-linux> LightVision: yes
[01:12] <thierry_> j-linux : go check ubuntu guide
[01:12] <walde> kadigibox, just use the search-function in synaptic and type xfce into. You will get a selection of  xfce-packages with 'xfce' in the package name. Select xfce4 for installation and you will get the most important dependencies. For tuning you have to search a little bit more.
[01:12] <sobersabre> lucky, now, how hs it happen, what were you doing when the machine crashed ?
[01:12] <lucky> sobersabre: talking on xchat
[01:12] <Seveas> LightVision, what did I say 2 times already?
[01:12] <j-linux> thierry: I did.  That's where I got this command from :S
[01:12] <sobersabre> s/hs/has/
[01:12] <lucky> sobersabre: under KDE
[01:12] <trigg> j-linux: "apt-cache search flashplayer" and you should get a list of the packagenames
[01:13] <j-linux> trigg: ok, I'll try that.  Thanks.
[01:13] <bimberi> j-linux: yes, if you have multiverse enabled
[01:13] <sobersabre> what graphic hardware do you have ?
[01:13] <lucky> sobersabre: xchat then quit, i restarted it, it didn't come up, so i starte it on a command line, and it says that it was segfaulting, same with firefox, mplayer, gaim and sudo
[01:13] <TimeWave> Can anyone tell me why ubuntu wouldnt recoginize the DHCO when I have multiple computers using the same protocol?
[01:13] <soundray> zone17: Try the Adblock extension and block http://*.class, how about it?
[01:13] <trigg> j-linux: no problem :)
[01:13] <j-linux> bimberi: ah... multiverse... I have universe, but I disabled multi recently
[01:13] <TimeWave> DHCP, even
[01:13] <LightVision> what are some reasons why I should move from Debian Sarge to Ubuntu please?  Im considering the move.
[01:13] <lucky> oh hold on,  the owner of this machine says its overclocked. :|
[01:14] <walde> TimeWave, is your ethernetdevice detected by the kernel?
[01:14] <bimberi> LightVision: the fabulous people in its support channel :P
[01:14] <TimeWave> yes
[01:14] <sobersabre> haha
[01:14] <walde> what does dhclient eth0 tell you
[01:14] <walde> TimeWave, what does dhclient eth0 tell you
[01:14] <zone17> soundray, I just found out, java is installed just not as a ubuntu package, but directly from sun
[01:15] <sobersabre> lucky, when you overclock... you should at least cooooooool everything very seriously.
[01:15] <Seveas> LightVision, if you are unhappy with sarge, move
[01:15] <LightVision> bimberi:  well, I hope not everyone is like Seveas!  he has not been very nice and helpful at all!  are people in ubuntu community nicer than him?
[01:15] <Seveas> if you are happy with sarge, don't move :)
[01:15] <soundray> zone17: Version?
[01:15] <Seveas> LightVision, right
[01:15] <LightVision> the reason I ask is because Im considering the move to Ubuntu
[01:15] <lucky> sobersabre: i just got it, i didn't know it was overclocked, i personally never overclock.
[01:15] <zone17> soundray, java version "1.4.2-02"
[01:15] <sobersabre> lucky, you're lucky if your cpu is ok...
[01:15] <lucky> sorry for that sobersabre, i'll see if that irons out my stability issues.
[01:15] <Seveas> LightVision, you not reading my answers is not the same as me being unfriendly
[01:15] <TimeWave> It is still in setup. It says it cant atuconfigure the network due to lack of DHCP protocol
[01:15] <foampeace> how do i make the mythtv use connect to the xserver?
[01:15] <trigg> LightVision: try it, if you like it, switch, if not, go back . . . not rocket science
[01:15] <LightVision> I orderd my ubuntu CD
[01:16] <soundray> LightVision: You could go to 1.5.0 - works for me.
[01:16] <kadigibox> hmmm cannot seem to get my DSL modem to detect.  I plug in the USB and nothing shows up on the screen that anything was connected
[01:16] <LightVision> trigg:  i ordered the ubuntu CD and now waiting for them to arrive
[01:16] <walde> TimeWave, do you mean the Installation-Setup?
[01:16] <soundray> zone17: You could go to 1.5.0 - works for me.
[01:16] <bimberi> LightVision: this might be worth a read - http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/
[01:16] <sobersabre> kadigibox, this is not windows....
[01:16] <nalioth> kadigibox: use the ethernet from your DSL modem
[01:16] <soundray> LightVision: sorry, wasn't meant for you.
[01:16] <zone17> soundray, from sun?
[01:16] <LightVision> soundray:  you are using 1.5.0 firefox on Sarge Debian?
[01:16] <Seveas> LightVision, they will not be sent before release (oct. 13) and take a few weeks to arrive
[01:16] <kadigibox> cant
[01:16] <Seveas> downloading may be faster
[01:16] <YattaMaX> [QUESTION]  :  how to modify the *boot procedure* of the Ubuntu Live CD ? (please reply me writing my nick in the answer or in private....thanks)
[01:16] <LightVision> Seveas:  ok thank you
[01:16] <YattaMaX> I have to customizating the Ubuntu Live CD for a *blind* user, therefore I have to limit any question on boot (FIRST that X or GDM starting) .....carefully the screen resolution question on boot.         anyone can help me ?
[01:16] <LightVision> Seveas:  im using modem
[01:16] <soundray> zone17: no...
[01:16] <kadigibox> My ethernet is not detected eather
[01:17] <sobersabre> YattaMaX, how do you modify a ROM ?
[01:17] <Seveas> LightVision, finding someone nearby with broadband may be faster then :)
[01:17] <YattaMaX> sobersabre: a ROM ?
[01:17] <zone17> soundray, trying apt-get install sun-j2re1.5 I am getting no install candidate
[01:17] <esac> how do i take a cdrom and make a .iso ?
[01:17] <sobersabre> Live CD is distributed upon CD[ROM] 
[01:17] <tylo> Can someone help me with a problem I am having reguarding installing the "Windows Installer" component of Wine. I have the errors I am receiving filed here: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/2594
[01:17] <nalioth> esac: use k3b
[01:17] <YattaMaX> sobersabre: ah ok, yes, a ROM
[01:18] <LightVision> Seveas:  yeah ;)
[01:18] <walde> esac, dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/home/esac/myiso.iso or use k3b
[01:18] <sobersabre> YattaMaX, are you working on your own image ?
[01:18] <YattaMaX> sobersabre: at the moment I have just modifyed a rom
[01:18] <esac> walde: thanks, i prefer the dd way :)
[01:18] <YattaMaX> sobersabre: but at the boot, it ask som question in console mode
[01:18] <kadigibox> if you can tell me how to get ubuntu to detect my network I could do that
[01:19] <soundray> zone17: I have sun-j2sdk1.5.0
[01:19] <sobersabre> YattaMaX, true. you probably need to enable braille tty
[01:19] <nalioth> kadigibox: i do not know the terminal way. i'd just plug in the ethernet to your DSL modem and restart
[01:19] <tylo> MadpilotPPC: Do you have a moment?
[01:19] <sobersabre> does it recognize the braile terminal ?
[01:19] <zone17> soundray, where did you get that from? :-)
[01:19] <YattaMaX> sobersabre: I don't have a braile device
[01:19] <trigg> kadigibox: try checking out pppoeconf
[01:19] <Miguel> Hi all
[01:19] <YattaMaX> sobersabre: I use only the voice
[01:19] <zone17> soundray, using any special repos?
[01:20] <walde> kadigibox, do you have a ethernet or a usb-connection to your dsl-modem
[01:20] <TimeWave> Does ubuntu have problems connecting to a router that has windows based comps connected to it?
[01:20] <YattaMaX> sobersabre: My necessity is that at the boot, it jumo all configurationquestion
[01:20] <kadigibox> MY NETWORK Device
[01:20] <zone17> soundray, doing a chache search I only get 1.4
[01:20] <Miguel> Would anyone be willing to help me install Hoary?  I'm on dial-up and it's freezing at the DHCP stage.
[01:20] <YattaMaX> sobersabre: jumo -> jump
[01:20] <trigg> kadigibox:  if you are using gnome, try the System| Administration| Networking system program
[01:20] <nalioth> TimeWave: nope
[01:20] <sobersabre> YattaMaX, 1. why not to try and configure braile ?
[01:20] <esac> is anybody running 2.6.13 kernel and having good luck with it? i am still running into issues where my laptop freezes when i shut it down, and hibernate isn't working
[01:21] <kadigibox> I cannot use ethernet if I cannot use the network device on the computer
[01:21] <YattaMaX> sobersabre: why I don't have a braile device :(
[01:21] <sobersabre> hmm.. how "blind" is the blind ?
[01:21] <sobersabre> are they partially visually impaired ?
[01:22] <HrdwrBoB> depends on the legal definition in that country
[01:22] <tristanmike> I just posted in #flood, can anyone give me a hand
[01:22] <HrdwrBoB> you don't have to be completely 'blind' to be blind
[01:22] <HrdwrBoB> tristanmike: use pastebin
[01:22] <trigg> kadigibox: what kind of network device do you have?
[01:22] <YattaMaX> sobersabre: My intention is to use only voice with festival and gnopernicus
[01:22] <tristanmike> ok
[01:22] <sobersabre> tristanmike, with all the respect, i'll keep my hands to myself.
[01:22] <kadigibox> I don't know.  It doesnt show in lspci
[01:22] <sobersabre> YattaMaX, I understand
[01:23] <tristanmike> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2595
[01:23] <sobersabre> and does festival allow voice input from the user ?
[01:23] <soundray> zone17: Still searching...
[01:23] <YattaMaX> user use the normal key
[01:23] <trigg> kadigibox: plug in the usb connect for the dsl modem and try an lspci
[01:23] <YattaMaX> sobersabre: user use the normal key
[01:24] <sobersabre> ok, got it.
[01:24] <walde> TimeWave, try to setup an IP manually via the console using ifconfig. After that try to ping your DHCP-Server. If this works, check your DHCP-Serverlogs
[01:24] <Miguel> Anyone know anything about installing Hoary, for a computer on dial-up?  It's stalling at DHCP
[01:24] <sobersabre> have you read the initscript ? it is all shell scripts
[01:25] <sobersabre> guys, is debian installer the program run after the boot on live CD ?
[01:25] <sobersabre> or what ?
[01:25] <esac> why can't linux fix it so that when i boot, if my wireless card doesn't have a connection, and my wired isnt plugged in, it doesn't hang for 2 minutes trying to connect? it seems like ive had this issue with every distro :(
[01:25] <kadigibox> trigg, I get a host bridge added
[01:25] <TimeWave> walde: ifconfig or ipconfig? From a terminal/command prompt?
[01:26] <trigg> kadigibox: ok, so at least it is recognizing something is plugged in.  What brand of modem is it?
[01:26] <sobersabre> esac, you should work on that yourself.
[01:26] <sobersabre> write scripts for this.
[01:26] <epiloc> ok, i got a new laptop today, it has no OS installed.  Should the machine be able to pick up a pcmcia cdrom to boot from a CD?
[01:26] <kadigibox> trigg, actiontec
[01:26] <walde> Timewave yes. ' ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.188 netmask 255.255.255.0 up '  Select a proper IP and Subnetmask
[01:26] <sobersabre> epiloc, is your CDROM sitting on pcmcia ?
[01:27] <trigg> kadigibox:  do you have pppoe installed?
[01:27] <YattaMaX> sobersabre: ubuntu live cd, at the initial boot, maked an other / and install on this the udeb packages
[01:27] <sobersabre> ok, it does it in ram.
[01:27] <sobersabre> ramdisk
[01:27] <sobersabre> then it runs some file.
[01:27] <YattaMaX> yes in ramdisk
[01:27] <sobersabre> you need to trac it, and see what is written in there.
[01:27] <epiloc> sobersabre, the cdrom is external pcmcia, yes
[01:28] <sobersabre> then the answer for your question is ... yes :)
[01:28] <epiloc> and pulls power from the pcmcia slot
[01:28] <cevizoglu> how do I fix this problem I get on login: SIOCGIFFLAGS error: No such device
[01:28] <sobersabre> epiloc, wehat a strange laptop you have... no internal CD ?
[01:28] <epiloc> small fujitsu lifebook
[01:28] <epiloc> b 2175
[01:28] <sobersabre> i am not familiar...
[01:28] <robertj> heya all.
[01:28] <YattaMaX> sobersabre: the real problem is the absence of documentation for this work :(
[01:28] <tga> meh, fujitsus, had a bunch of trouble with my S-series
[01:29] <robertj> has anyone here fought with lufs on hoary?
[01:29] <sobersabre> YattaMaX, you're wrong.
[01:29] <epiloc> it doesnt detect the pcmcia nor does it display any pcmcia info in BIOS
[01:29] <sobersabre> the  documentation is in debian project.
[01:29] <hyperactivecrond> do I have to use the kernel sources that come up in apt-cache?
[01:29] <kadigibox> trigg, why would I need pppoe?  The modem already is signed into the net by pppoa
[01:29] <TimeWave> thanks all
[01:29] <tga> hyperactivecrond, you can compile your own kernel from other sources if you wish
[01:29] <sobersabre> ubuntu uses probably live CD from knoppix, which is also based on debian.
[01:29] <YattaMaX> sobersabre: documentation for normal customization is ok, but for this question si very absent
[01:29] <robertj> the lufs image doesn't work properly when built with module assistant
[01:30] <robertj> err lufs kernel source module
[01:30] <trigg> kadigibox: didn't realize.  Some modems don't do that. :)  What can you see with ifconfig?
[01:30] <jrattner1> Is there any equivalent of microsoft frontpage for linux
[01:30] <epiloc> anyone have any suggestions how I can get an OS on a laptop over a network boot?
[01:30] <cevizoglu> sobersabre, more like gnoppix
[01:30] <sobersabre> what question, how to automate some questions of debian-installer ?!
[01:30] <sobersabre> thanks, cevizoglu
[01:30] <crimsun> epiloc, use the netboot pxe instructions
[01:30] <tristanmike> HrdwrBoB, pasted
[01:30] <kadigibox> trigg, the local loopback
[01:30] <crimsun> epiloc, that's how I install Breezy these days
[01:30] <HrdwrBoB> pl
[01:30] <HrdwrBoB> ok
[01:31] <YattaMaX> sobersabre: documentation for modifying the boot process of the live cd
[01:31] <tristanmike> HrdwrBoB, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2595
[01:31] <HrdwrBoB> tristanmike: ooh.
[01:31] <sobersabre> YattaMaX, the debian installer is binary.
[01:31] <HrdwrBoB> your shit is broken
[01:31] <tristanmike> D'OH!
[01:31] <sobersabre> if you want to automate, you can
[01:31] <HrdwrBoB> could be a hard drive failure
[01:31] <trigg> kadigibox: does ifconfig ppp0 give you anything?
[01:31] <sobersabre> YattaMaX, but if you want to modify debian-installer... you need to learn how it works.
[01:32] <sobersabre> i mean as a program.
[01:32] <evian> I've been trying to get skype to work in ubuntu for days. I've read a bunch of things on it, but nothing seems to work.
[01:32] <kadigibox> trigg, um why would it be ppp0?  This would be a network connection wouldnt it be eth0?
[01:32] <tristanmike> HrdwrBoB, terminal won't start
[01:32] <tylo> evian: What's the problem?
[01:32] <sobersabre> YattaMaX, why are there no special blind oriented distributions ?
[01:32] <moparfan90> hello
[01:32] <evian> tylo: no sound
[01:32] <trigg> kadigibox: are you using an ethernet cable?
[01:32] <benkong2> hey all does beagle work in breezy?
[01:32] <evian> tylo: I try echo123 test and hear nothing
[01:32] <crimsun> epiloc, the basic instructions at http://wiki.koeln.ccc.de/index.php/Ubuntu_PXE_Install are helpful
[01:32] <benkong2> ! beagle
[01:32] <ubotu> methinks beagle is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryBeagleInstallHowto
[01:32] <HrdwrBoB> tristanmike: yes
[01:32] <epiloc> crimsun
[01:33] <epiloc> great thanks
[01:33] <kent> sobersabre, is not Gnome supposed to include support for those things? So every distribution with gnome should be ok? Or am i wrong?
[01:33] <YattaMaX> sobersabre: don't thinks that it exists
[01:33] <HrdwrBoB> tristanmike: your whole system is basically stuffed
[01:33] <tylo> evian: I see. Do you have a music player running or open at the same time?
[01:33] <tristanmike> HrdwrBoB, hmmm, so where to proceed, just reinstall?
[01:33] <evian> tylo: no
[01:33] <HrdwrBoB> tristanmike: run 'dmesg'
[01:33] <kadigibox> trigg, no but anyway nether are running
[01:33] <HrdwrBoB> tristanmike: if you can
[01:33] <michan> i'm having a lot of trouble installing nvidia drivers.  i think i need the latest kernel source, but there isn't a package for my version (2.6.12-9-386)
[01:33] <moparfan90> im trying to install the game torcs and when i try to do the commands 'make' , 'make install', and 'make datainstall' i get this:  configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[01:33] <moparfan90> See `config.log' for more details.
[01:33] <moparfan90> make: *** [Make-config]  Error 1
[01:33] <tristanmike> HrdwrBoB, terminal wont start
[01:33] <HrdwrBoB> tristanmike: as I said, might be a dead hard drive
[01:33] <moparfan90> what can i do?
[01:33] <trigg> kadigibox: unless you are actually using your network card, it will not be eth0
[01:33] <sobersabre> YattaMaX, I think i've stumbled into something.
[01:33] <Seveas> !info torcs
[01:33] <tylo> evian: Hm. I see. Have you dealt with things such as ALSA and ESD yet?
[01:33] <ubotu> torcs: (3D racing cars simulator game using OpenGL), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 1.2.2-5ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 2325 kB, Installed size: 29824 kB
[01:33] <Agrajag> moparfan90: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:33] <Seveas> moparfan90, apt-get install torcs
[01:34] <kadigibox> trigg, well I would like to be able to use the network card.  I don't know how though
[01:34] <Agrajag> or just get torcs from the universe repository
[01:34] <kadigibox> The network card is not shown on lspci
[01:34] <evian> tylo: I tried the stuff in the ubuntuguide, but it didn't seem to work, then Seveas told me not to use the ubuntuguide so I undid it.
[01:34] <soundray> zone17: Bad news
[01:34] <HrdwrBoB> tristanmike: you don't have one open?
[01:34] <michan> can anyone help me install nvidia drivers? or at least install the right kernel sources for my kernel version?
[01:34] <Seveas> !nvidia
[01:34] <ubotu> from memory, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[01:34] <evian> tylo: I didn't know what I was doing, I just followed the instructions
[01:34] <moparfan90> ok thanks lol
[01:34] <tristanmike> HrdwrBoB, one wont open
[01:34] <soundray> zone17: This is where I had it from: http://ubuntujava.yimports.com/News.shtml
[01:34] <tylo> evian: There is a howto that worked for me. However, I believe sound may have been working for me out of the box.
[01:34] <evian> tylo: I tried killing off esd
[01:34] <benkong2> do hoary install docs for beagle work for breezy?
[01:35] <HrdwrBoB> tristanmike: that's because your hard drive is broken
[01:35] <walde> kadigibox, I just wonder as you told about a usb-connection some lines before. Do you have a usb-connection to your modem or networkdevice?
[01:35] <jrattner1> Does mozilla come with a web design component?
[01:35] <sobersabre> ok, must go.
[01:35] <evian> tylo: sound seems to work in other apps ok for me
[01:35] <Agrajag> yes, mozilla composer
[01:35] <tristanmike> HrdwrBoB, so reinstall?
[01:35] <kadigibox> walde, yes
[01:35] <Seveas> jrattner1, nvu
[01:35] <evian> tylo: was the howto on the wiki or somewhere else?
[01:35] <zone17> soundray, thank you veyr much, you have been very helpfull!
[01:35] <HrdwrBoB> tristanmike: yes, if possible
[01:35] <jrattner1> Seveas, NVU?
[01:35] <YattaMaX> sobersabre: thanks for all, now I going into bed
[01:35] <Seveas> NVU :)
[01:35] <HrdwrBoB> tristanmike: as I said before, most likely a hardware problem
[01:36] <nixiac> jrattnerl: yep, go get it at >System>administration>Sysaptic Package Manager
[01:36] <jrattner1> Seveas, NVPOO?
[01:36] <trigg> kadigibox: right. as walde is implying, if you are using USB then it will not be eth0
[01:36] <tylo> evian: Try this guide http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063&pp=10&highlight=Failed+construct+test+pipeline
[01:36] <YattaMaX> sobersabre: goodnight
[01:36] <jrattner1> nixiac, ok
[01:36] <YattaMaX> goodnicht
[01:36] <evian> ok.. thanks
[01:36] <YattaMaX> goodnight
[01:36] <walde> kadigibox, so, there seems to be the problem. USB-Modems often doesnt work properbly without special drivers. Unfortunately, these drivers are most times for windows only.
[01:36] <trigg> kadigibox: i believe that if you use the usb connection, you have to use pppoe
[01:36] <jrattner1> nixiac, then?
[01:36] <jrattner1> Seveas, what is MVU?
[01:36] <jrattner1> Seveas, what is NVU? :)
[01:36] <benkong2> anyone? do hoary install docs for beagle work for breezy?
[01:37] <evian> tylo: if I can't get it working in the next couple hours, I will have to do something drastic. Like boot into windows :)
[01:37] <Seveas> jrattner1, the mozilla web editor :)
[01:37] <kadigibox> walde, the modem has Ethernet as well and wireless
[01:37] <benkong2> NVU is a web development tool
[01:37] <Seveas> benkong2, in breezy it's as simple as apt-get install beagle
[01:37] <kadigibox> but eathernet and wireless does me no good if the devices don't work!
[01:37] <jrattner1> Seveas, ahh can i download it standalone?
[01:37] <soundray> zone17: you're welcome. If you don't need java applets, I would still suggest the Adblock route.
[01:37] <Seveas> yes, package nvu :)
[01:37] <eruin> anyone know where the banshee playlist is stored?
[01:38] <nixiac> jrattnerl: yep, you simply go to the tree for what you want, and click on the box for the program.  IF dep libraries are needed, a second box opens, to offer you choice to stop, or go with the install, of the prog, plus, any dep libraries.
[01:38] <benkong2> Seveas; got that and its in the menu but it doesn't work and there is no xattr_ thingy in my /etc/fstab
[01:38] <walde> kadigibox, Do you have an extra pci-card or a ethernetchip on your motherboard?
[01:38] <jrattner1> Seveas, sounds good :  )
[01:38] <Seveas> user_xattr
[01:38] <esac> does anybody have a good generic .vimrc (line numbers, tabs at 4, spaces instead of tabs) ?
[01:38] <Seveas> yrah, user_xattr helps :)
[01:39] <kadigibox> walde, I said its a LAPTOP
[01:39] <Seveas> esac, Your data has been posted to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2596
[01:39] <benkong2> Seveas; so can I use the wiki install docs for hoary as a guide for setting it up?
[01:39] <Seveas> ehm, just the url, the rest is output of a script I made...
[01:39] <kadigibox> IBM T20 Laptop
[01:39] <Seveas> benkong2, lemme see
[01:39] <esac> thanks seveas. i have my .vimrc at home, but unfortunately im not at home right now
[01:39] <Alos> Hi everyboy
[01:39] <sorush20> guys when I type sudo /etc/init.d/hotplug restart, my system keboard crashes..
[01:39] <lgc> Hello everyone from Mexico! Can anyone tell me how can I uninstall the latest -faulty- version of Firefox from my Hoary and reinstall the one on my CD?
[01:40] <benkong2> Seveas; this is what i'm looking at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryBeagleInstallHowto
[01:40] <tristanmike> HrdwrBoB, oh, btw, thanx for your time
[01:40] <walde> kadigibox, sorry, I cant see all lines. Also even Laptops dont have everything built in on their own motherboard. Many cards are extra, even you cant see it. However, please, tell me again, what manufactor and modell?
[01:40] <Alos> How can a see a unmount partiton
[01:40] <kadigibox> walde, IBM Thinkpad T20
[01:40] <dooglus> anyone know of a good "learning vim" tutorial?  I know vi, and I know emacs, but need to learn the 'new' vim stuff
[01:41] <Seveas> benkong2, just apt-get install beagle
[01:41] <Seveas> and do the user_xattr trick
[01:41] <Seveas> no more
[01:41] <benkong2> Seveas; k thanks
[01:41] <hyperactivecrond> !vim
[01:41] <ubotu> hyperactivecrond: I haven't a clue
[01:41] <hyperactivecrond> !vi
[01:41] <ubotu> Not a clue, hyperactivecrond
[01:41] <hyperactivecrond> eergh
[01:41] <crimsun> dooglus, vimtutor
[01:41] <Seveas> dooglus, google for the vim book
[01:41] <Seveas> ik has a chapter on the vi - vim diffs
[01:41] <hyperactivecrond> !vimtutor
[01:41] <ubotu> hyperactivecrond: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[01:41] <eruin> anyone know whether ubuntuexpress is incorporated in the latest livecds?
[01:41] <hyperactivecrond> nvm then :)
[01:41] <Seveas> hyperactivecrond, please do not play with any bot
[01:41] <dooglus> Seveas: thanks.  crimsun: what's vimtutor?
[01:42] <Seveas> dooglus, it's the for-total-newbies intro to vi(m)
[01:42] <Seveas> eruin, ?
[01:42] <linner> hey guys... tell me this.. if you install something using "su" and then the program installs in your root directory, what kind of consequence am I looking at?
[01:42] <evian> tylo: yeah that guide is interesting, it is similar to the ubuntuguide suggestions but takes it a step or two further. I know it can work because skype used to work under Mandrake for me (which I removed)
[01:42] <crimsun> dooglus, err, I just reread your question. It probably won't be all that useful.
[01:42] <JustinHH> i try to listen to a radio webstation in the webbrowser. the plugin searcher can't find any suitable plugin.
[01:42] <zack_> hi
[01:42] <lgc> Hello everyone! Can anyone here help me?
[01:42] <Seveas> linner, total breakage, nuclear meltdown, vulcano eruption
[01:43] <linner> :O)
[01:43] <crimsun> dooglus, it's more of a tutorial for new vi users, and since it starts in vi-compatible mode, you won't gain much if anything from it.
[01:43] <linner> Seveas:  is it a big, big problem?
[01:43] <Seveas> dooglus, in #ubuntu-bugbot you can freely play with it
[01:43] <tylo> evian: Sweet. I went through a small bout with tryig to get Skype sound to work simultaneously with a music player. So I know of just about every guide out there. I ended up buying a sound card in the end since onboard sound doesn't support it.
[01:43] <Seveas> linner, depends on what is was and how you installed it
[01:43] <linner> it was wine
[01:43] <crimsun> tylo, actually it _is_ possible.
[01:43] <trigg> kadigibox: which version of the actiontec modem do you have?
[01:43] <linner> and it didn't install with sudo because of "permissions" problems
[01:43] <Seveas> linner, total breakage, nuclear meltdown, vulcano eruption
[01:43] <eruin> Seveas, nothing, you just give people the impression of knowing everything there is to know regarding ubuntu :)
[01:44] <Seveas> you should have installed it via synaptic :)
[01:44] <crimsun> tylo, I'm working on a tutorial that will be part of the media-centric portion of Ubuntu
[01:44] <linner> tried
[01:44] <tylo> crimsun: Hey, you were the guy helping me out before. You told me to buy the sound card. :-P
[01:44] <lgc> HELP!
[01:44] <walde> kadigibox, should be an Integrated Intel Pro/100+. But however, it needs to be displayed in lspci... You said, " lspci |grep Ethernet  " shows no results. Thats mysterious... moment
[01:44] <Seveas> eruin, heh, there's so much I don't know :)
[01:44] <crimsun> tylo, yes, because at the time it was easier than using oss2jack
[01:44] <linner> Seveas:  it's not my problem.... i was trying to help tylo with it... and the best advise i could give him was a link to winehq.org
[01:44] <tylo> crimsun: That's alright.
[01:44] <crimsun> tylo, now that a significant number of bugs have been fixed in oss2jack, I can reevaluate it.
[01:45] <linner> Seveas:  and from there is where we ran into problems... when he used the "su" command to install the program it automatically installed it in to his root directory
[01:45] <tylo> crimsun: Cool. I hope to see the myriad of onboard sounders to come to simultaneous sound euphoria.
[01:45] <Jan-> When my friend tries to run the volume control under Breezy, he gets this error: Registry is not present or is corrupted please update it by running gst-register
[01:45] <linner> Seveas:  i'm assuming this is completely fixable... but i'm not terrible certain.. and don't want to keep "helping" if I don't know what in the crap I'm doin' :)
[01:46] <robertj> bbtw, if anyone is interested fuse installs fine on hoary  if you use fuse-source from breezy
[01:46] <HrdwrBoB> Jan-: did you run gst-register?
[01:46] <trigg> wald: there are two version of the T20 - kadigibox: check out this website - http://www.spack.org/wiki/ThinkPadT20
[01:46] <Jan-> I presume so. Let me check.
[01:46] <evian> what is oss2jack crimsun?
[01:46] <lgc> linner, noone seems to answer my calls. Could you help me?
[01:46] <evian> sorry I should google it
[01:46] <linner> lgc:  i'll try
[01:47] <daniminas> hi
[01:47] <JustinHH> i try to listen to a radio webstation in the webbrowser. the plugin searcher can't find any suitable plugin. how can i know what plugin i need? the broser redirects me to the microsoft website
[01:47] <linner> lgc:  Keep in mind I'm a VERY new user.  Ok?  So, I'll do my best.
[01:47] <hybrid_goth> who here was it that worked on petitioning UbuntuX?
[01:47] <hyperactivecrond> !ubuntuexpress
[01:47] <ubotu> hyperactivecrond: Are you on ritalin?
[01:47] <dooglus> is there a program which will pop up a message when I'm running low on disk space?  I just ran out completely - and that's not a good thing to do
[01:47] <Seveas> JustinHH, probably an mms:// stream
[01:48] <Seveas> Breezy will soon be able to play such streams
[01:48] <daniminas> parport webcams have support?
[01:48] <Quinthius> hybrid_goth: petitioning?
[01:48] <lgc> linner, thanks. I just upgraded the version of Firefox and I came out with a faulty application. I want to remove it (no problem with it) and to reinstall the previous version from my Hoary CD. Can you tell me how?
[01:48] <walde> trigg, kadigibox, but this doesnt explains why the card isnt mentioned in the pci-list. Also mini-pci-cards should.
[01:48] <JustinHH> i don't know
[01:48] <linner> lgc:  what version are you looking for?
[01:49] <linner> lgc:  I know that can be done.  I've seen other people talking about it in the channel.
[01:49] <JustinHH> seveas:  may i type the site here and you can check it out pls?
[01:49] <hybrid_goth> Quinthius: me and a guy tried to start a backing for what they are calling XUbuntu a while back
[01:49] <lgc> linner,  the one that comes with the Hoary CD. That one seems to work OK.
[01:49] <Seveas> JustinHH, sure
[01:49] <linner> lgc:  my question is why do you think it was a fauly application?
[01:49] <JustinHH> www.energy.de
[01:49] <trigg> walde: according to linux-on-laptops, there is a known bug with the 3com card - kadigibox: try modprobing the 3C59x module for your card and see if it loads
[01:50] <JustinHH> on the left side there is a link listen live
[01:50] <kadigibox> trigg, in a sec the computer just ran out of batt
[01:50] <JustinHH> it opens a popup window
[01:50] <linner> lgc:  Did you install the update via synaptic?
[01:51] <lgc> linner, because I can't download (turns out error codes) and I can't use the top bar menus. At least the Spanish version doesn't work...
[01:51] <Knelix> hybrid_goth: I've been wanting to try xfce, but I'm not sure how to install it exactly.
[01:51] <JustinHH> you must the click a radio station
[01:51] <lgc> linner, yes.
[01:51] <trigg> kadigibox: Here is another how-to for Gentoo - but you can probably interpolate the settings to work with Ubuntu . . http://howjay.w3.org.cn/works/article-gentoo20043-on-ibmt20.html
[01:51] <Seveas> JustinHH, mplayerplugin handles that one just fine
[01:51] <crimsun> Knelix, apt-get install xfce4
[01:51] <linner> lgc:  what are the error codes?
[01:51] <Knelix> hmm.
[01:51] <Seveas> JustinHH, get mozilla-mplayer
[01:51] <JustinHH> can i get it via synaptic?
[01:51] <linner> lgc:  it doesn't sound like it's a faulty software app
[01:51] <Seveas> and w32codecs
[01:51] <crimsun> Knelix, log out of GNOME, then choose the Xfce session in GDM's session menu
[01:51] <Seveas> yes
[01:51] <JustinHH> ok
[01:52] <JustinHH> seveas: do you know if it workes also with opera?
[01:52] <Seveas> it won't
[01:52] <Seveas> but since opera sucks anyway, it's not so big a problem ;)
[01:52] <JustinHH> :))
[01:52] <daniminas> somebody know if webcams in parports have support?
[01:52] <lgc> linner, the options on the top bar just don roll down. The download, on the other hand, ends up with some error code I just didn write down.
[01:53] <zack_> ATI is gay i hate ati
[01:53] <zack_> why do they make things so diffucult
[01:53] <linner> lgc:  ok... back up your bookmarks (if you have any)
[01:53] <Quinthius> zack_: how so?
[01:53] <linner> lgc: this is what i would do...
[01:53] <prc> I am trying to run gtkpod in ubuntu, and apparently it requires the library "libgpod" or "libmp4v2".  Neither of them are availible via apt.  What can I do?
[01:53] <linner> lgc:  then go through synaptic again and redownload firefox
[01:53] <lgc> linner, I wasn't able to do that..
[01:54] <linner> lgc:  what weren't you able to do ?
[01:54] <kadigibox> trigg, how do I modprob.  I am getting a message there is no modprob
[01:54] <liz4rd> anyone haveing problems with the nvidia drivers on breezy? i instaled them then enabled but no glx
[01:54] <Xorlev> Okay, so recently I updated Firefox to that 1.0.7 upgrade, and now Flashplayer doesn't work. I tried completely uninstalling flash and reinstalling...no dice. Same for Firefox.
[01:54] <lgc> linner, because the roll-down menus just didn't roll down!
[01:54] <Xorlev> kadigibox: modprobe
[01:55] <linner> lgc:  when you say roll down menus... are you talking about the menu line in firefox?
[01:55] <Knelix> crimsun: Cool. :-)
[01:55] <lgc> linner, indeed.
[01:55] <linner> lgc:  ok... then you can retrieve your bookmarks through the file
[01:55] <liz4rd> anyone have any ideas?
[01:55] <linner> lgc:  hold on a sec... let me go look where they are
[01:55] <linner> lgc:  wait one minute
[01:55] <auk> !imovie
[01:55] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, auk
[01:55] <auk> ubotu: ping
[01:55] <ubotu> Keep your fingers to yourself, auk.
[01:55] <auk> !info ubotu
[01:55] <zack_> i hope ati company rotts in hell
[01:55] <lgc> linner, never mind. I didn't have any because it's a fresh install.
[01:56] <walde> trigg, maybe acpi=off is an option (your linked gentoo-docu). kadigibox " modprobe 3c59x "
[01:56] <Quinthius> zack_: are you going to explain your problem, or just keep complaining?
[01:56] <auk> !info imovie
[01:56] <dooglus> Xorlev: that saves you having to install the flashblock extension I guess
[01:56] <Knelix> crimsun, hybrid_goth: This is a lovely theme, too. The default Gnome theme should be more like this.
[01:56] <Xorlev> dooglus: Heh, yeah. But I need flash :P
[01:56] <trigg> walde: I agree ..
[01:56] <kadigibox> walde, I did modprobe 3c59x so now what?
[01:56] <crimsun> Knelix, I like both default themes
[01:57] <walde> kadigibox, try an "ifconfig eth0 up"
[01:57] <prc> I am trying to run gtkpod in ubuntu, and apparently it requires the library "libgpod" or "libmp4v2".  Neither of them are availible via apt.  What can I do?
[01:57] <kadigibox> walde, no sutch device
[01:58] <prc> how does this room work? I just ask questions, or is there a line?
[01:58] <_jason> prc: just ask
[01:58] <hyperactivecrond> prc: ask away
[01:58] <liz4rd> ask away prc
[01:58] <hyperactivecrond> we, (i speak for myself here) won't bite
[01:59] <crimsun> prc, libmp4v2-0 is available in breezy/multiverse
[01:59] <walde> kadigibox, trigg also if I would like to know how it ends, I need to go to bed (its 2 a.m. here).  kadigibox shutdown, turn on, and boot with the kernel-option acpi=off  . If your device isnt listed in lspci after that.... I dont know, sorry.
[01:59] <prc> crimsun: so just add that to my source list for apt?
[01:59] <crimsun> prc, if you're using breezy, sure
[01:59] <linner> lgc:  ok... I can't find mine either.  Do you have your bookmarks backed up anywhere else?
[01:59] <trigg> later walde
[01:59] <BlankB> is there a list of what packages and version #'s are in breezy.?
[01:59] <prc> crimsun: I'm using Hoary
[02:00] <lgc> 
[02:00] <daniminas> can i put to work a paralel por webcam?
[02:00] <Bartimaeus> hey, can anyone tell me how to install java, now that it isnt included in the hoary extras repository?
[02:00] <kadigibox> how do I boot with kernel-option acpi=off?
[02:01] <crimsun_> um
[02:01] <grndslm> I have a networking question...somebody asked me to scp my syslog file to another *nix computer: "then you can 'scp /var/log/syslog username@othermachine:'"....how do I find out what to put in place of othermachine
[02:01] <bimberi> ubotu tell Bartimaeus about java
[02:01] <crimsun_> kadigibox, specify it at the grub prompt
[02:01] <JustinHH> must have ubuntu some free space to work on the harddisc and how much?
[02:01] <kadigibox> I don't get a grub prompt
[02:01] <lgc> linner, no. It's a fresh -from today- install. Let me narrow down on my question: do you know how I can install from my Ubuntu CD instead of from the Ubuntu repository? What option must I pass to apt-get?
[02:01] <trigg> kadigibox: or edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst file and add acpi=off to the end of the kernel line for the kernel that you use
[02:02] <crimsun_> JustinHH, you need at least 1 gig of freeable space. The free space doesn't have to exist. The installer can resize NTFS.
[02:02] <linner> lgc:  I don't know the answer to that.  I've never tried to install something from CD.  So.......
[02:02] <nixiac> JustinHH: Installed my Ubuntu Hoary on 7 Gb partition, but, it only took 1.9Gb for the total... YMMMV
[02:02] <prc> crimsun, so am I out of luck?
[02:02] <linner> Can anyone help with how to tell apt-get to install from CD?  Specifically firefox?
[02:03] <zack_> linner i dont think its possible
[02:03] <crimsun_> prc, why are you out of luck?
[02:03] <linner> zack_:  are you sure?
[02:03] <lgc> linner. Thanks anyway. I hope you don't get offended if I ask someone else, like crimsun ...
[02:03] <JustinHH> i have instaled it on one purtition and after the updates i made i have just ~600 mb free left
[02:03] <linner> lgc:  oh lord, not at all
[02:03] <prc> crimsun, because I'm using Hoary
[02:03] <JustinHH> the partition has 2 gb
[02:03] <JustinHH> the hdd 40 gb
[02:03] <trigg> linner: check your sources.list and remove all entries except the cd source at the top
[02:03] <zack_> i had the same problem being the reason im on dialup... i a few apps but they stayed all greyed out
[02:03] <JustinHH> but i also have windows installed
[02:03] <Knelix> Haha!... Even a Mac OS 9-style theme...
[02:03] <lgc> linner, well, then...
[02:04] <trigg> linner: or comment them out . . . not remove
[02:04] <linner> lgc:  see trigg's comment
[02:04] <linner> trigg:  thank you :)
[02:04] <sorush20> my computer has lost its speed, I don't know why can somone help please..
[02:04] <prc> crimsun, and the library I need is in the breezy source list
[02:04] <nixiac> After all updates, with Desktop, plus Fileserver, my install of Kernel2.6.10-2-10-k7, and EVERYTHING graphical, is still only 1.9Gb.
[02:04] <Knelix> Say, can I apply these XFCE themes to Gnome?
[02:04] <liz4rd> uh
[02:04] <liz4rd> if there gtk
[02:04] <trigg> linner, lgc: no problem, don't forget to apt-get update after you change the sources.list
[02:05] <liz4rd> anyone wanna help me make gnome pretty
[02:05] <liz4rd> ?
[02:05] <liz4rd> :D
[02:05] <qt2> bah, i broke the removable media(cd/dvd) automount functionof ubuntu somehow... any idea how i can fix it?
[02:05] <crimsun> prc, why not dist-upgrade to breezy?
[02:05] <linner> trigg:  you rock dude :O)
[02:05] <trigg> linner: thanks man.
[02:05] <daniminas> somebody know if webcams in parports have support?
[02:05] <liz4rd> Knelix, yeah if tehre gtk
[02:05] <lgc> trigg, thanks!
[02:05] <Quinthius> liz4rd: gnome can only be so pretty, but www.gnome-look.com has a lot of stuff.
[02:05] <Quinthius> liz4rd: .org, i mean
[02:06] <tylo> trigg: You busy?
[02:06] <Knelix> liz4rd: How can I tell?
[02:06] <trigg> tylo: nope
[02:06] <linuxjeff> easy way to make ubuntu pretty: sudo apt-get install MacOSX
[02:06] <tylo> trigg: Any experience with Wine?
[02:06] <prc> crimsun, I would just type, "apt-get dist-upgrade breezy"?
[02:06] <liz4rd> Quinthius, i know i'm there now :P but i cant make them like the screenshots :P
[02:06] <liz4rd> Knelix, um hmmm where did you download them from?
[02:06] <crimsun> prc, no, there's a set of instructions on the wiki and on the bot
[02:06] <prc> okay
[02:06] <prc> thanks
[02:07] <trigg> tylo: a little.  I kind of got tired of struggling with it so I brokedown and bought CrossOver Office
[02:07] <nixiac> qt2: you might have 'updated' or ''upgraded' something that wrote a new /etc/fstabs that changed permissions... happened to me LOTS of times!
[02:07] <Knelix> crimsun: They came with the XFCE... when I issued the apt-get command.
[02:07] <liz4rd> no
[02:07] <cevizoglu> linuxjeff: do you mean mol-drivers-macosx?
[02:07] <kadigibox> still doesnt show up in lspci
[02:07] <tylo> trigg: Ah. I was just trying to get it installed. Having big problems with this "Windows Installer" component.
[02:07] <trigg> tylo, mostly I just try to find a linux application that does what I want.
[02:07] <trigg> tylo: what are you trying to install?
[02:07] <crimsun> Knelix, come again?
[02:07] <crimsun> (I'm missing context)
[02:07] <linuxjeff> crimsun: do you know if pybackpack has been packaged for ubuntu?
[02:07] <linuxjeff> http://minus-zero.org/projects/pybackpack/screenshots/0.4/
[02:08] <liz4rd> Knelix, http://art.gnome.org/themes/gtk_engines/670
[02:08] <Bartimaeus> Ahh!!!!!!!   I'm sp cpnfused!!!  Can anyone hold my hand and help me install java?
[02:08] <crimsun> linuxjeff, check via packages.ubuntu.com
[02:08] <linuxjeff> It was a google summer of code fedora project that works fine on ubuntu.
[02:08] <tylo> trigg: Well, actually, as goofy as it sounds, Ultima Online.
[02:08] <chavo> Knelix, xfce has an included gtk theme engine and some very nice themes
[02:08] <tylo> trigg: But for now, I am just trying to get Wine configured correctly.
[02:08] <zack_> i hated fedora
[02:09] <liz4rd> chavo, i gave him a good link its the gnome-xfce-engine or w/e
[02:09] <Knelix> crimsun: The theme I refer to came with XFCE... i didn't download it independently... I just installed XFCE via the apt-get command, and haven't installed anything else.
[02:09] <liz4rd> zack_, word
[02:09] <trigg> tylo: games and wine are tough - they usually require directx which wine doesn't implement well.
[02:09] <nixiac> hohoho linuxjeff, you funny fella!  But, Mac OSX is a fork of DarwinBSD, which is a fork of 386BSD.  Like the EVIL EMPIRE M$, they steal the code, lock the user to THEIR agenda, and charge more...
[02:09] <crimsun> Knelix, that's correct, that's how we packaged it.
[02:09] <linuxjeff> crimsun: It is not, but It is really easy to get working on ubuntu from src. How can I package it to get put in universe?
[02:09] <hyperactivecrond> nixiac, be glad it's unix.
[02:09] <trigg> tylo: are you using the wine from ubuntu? or from winehq?
[02:09] <Bartimaeus> does anyone know of a repository that has java in it?
[02:09] <linuxjeff> Or is it too late for it to be added to universe?
[02:09] <crimsun> linuxjeff, see wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[02:09] <tylo> trigg: Let me check on that.
[02:10] <benkong2> does it matter where I install the google api for beagle?
[02:10] <crimsun> linuxjeff, follow the appropriate link(s)
[02:10] <Knelix> chavo, crimsun: Then, the themes included are Gnome compatible as well>
[02:10] <Knelix> ?
[02:10] <linuxjeff> pybackpack == HIG-ified rsync / rdiff-backup gui for backups
[02:10] <zack_> i hate windows, redhat , fedora and ATI drivers
[02:10] <linuxjeff> dont hate :)
[02:10] <liz4rd> zack_, we have alot in common :P
[02:10] <chavo> Knelix, of course
[02:10] <tylo> trigg: I followed this guide to apt-get it from source forge. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56892
[02:10] <nixiac> Fedora is the reason I switched to Knoppix, then Debian, now, Ubuntu!  Sooooo glad I 'found' POSIX copmliant Nix!
[02:10] <ColonelKernel> how do I run X apps as root when im logged into X as a user?
[02:10] <evian> tylo: hi again, I rebooted. now I can't play any sounds.
[02:10] <Knelix> chavo: goody! :-)
[02:10] <crimsun> linuxjeff, I'll go ahead and mention that most of us are very strapped for time, so although it's _possible_ to be in Breezy, it's fairly unlikely it'll make it in.
[02:11] <hyperactivecrond> nixiac, please join #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to troll here.
[02:11] <chavo> just go to theme manager and hit the Theme Details button, then you can change the gtk theme seperately
[02:11] <trigg> tylo: hold on a sec . . .
[02:11] <linuxjeff> crimsun: Can things be included in universe after the release?
[02:11] <epiloc> crimsun
[02:11] <linuxjeff> And when is the official release?
[02:11] <zack_> im gunna switch to kde!
[02:11] <linuxjeff> If making a dsc is easy, I will do it
[02:11] <evian> tylo: but I wonder, I don't see anything in the ps aux, when I grep for esd or alsa, I'm wondering shouldn't I have something like that running as a sound demon?
[02:11] <cevizoglu> linuxjeff: oct. 13th
[02:11] <crimsun> linuxjeff, once a release is made, universe is frozen for that release.
[02:11] <hyperactivecrond> zack_, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktopp
[02:11] <hyperactivecrond> oops
[02:11] <linner> crimsun:  have any experience with wine?
[02:12] <epiloc> crimsun, no boot file name received
[02:12] <zack_> doom the movie  is coming out!
[02:12] <hyperactivecrond> kubuntu-desktop*
[02:12] <liz4rd> zack_, ewi
[02:12] <epiloc> followed the PXE install step by step
[02:12] <trigg> tylo: did you check out this website? http://frankscorner.org/
[02:12] <zack_> die folks die!
[02:12] <liz4rd> lol
[02:12] <zack_> kde > gnome for life
[02:12] <crimsun> epiloc, is the machine getting the appropriate DHCP lease?
[02:12] <linuxjeff> crimsun: do you have any decent debian packaging tutorials? And if I made a deb within a week, do you think it would make it into universe if it was good?
[02:12] <tylo> trigg: Yeah. They don't have any details about the Windows Installer.
[02:12] <crimsun> linner, a little
[02:12] <linuxjeff> I have made dozens of rpm packages
[02:12] <evian> perhaps my /etc/asound.cond needs advanced tweaking? I'm on a laptop, but I have no idea what to do
[02:12] <epiloc> crimsun yes, its picking up an IP
[02:13] <tylo> evian: I think it is your asound.cond that is causing it.
[02:13] <linner> tylo is having some problems with wine... and we've gone through the forums and google and for some reason it still isn't working properly
[02:13] <crimsun> linuxjeff, wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources . I doubt it will make it in in that timeframe due to our review process.
[02:13] <qt2> nixiac: /dev/hdb        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660     ro,user,noauto                    0   0
[02:13] <kadigibox> hmmm even reinstalling it wont detect network hardware
[02:13] <evian> I meant asound.conf
[02:13] <nixiac> Touchy feely today, about somthing?  Here to learn, help if I can, and I get slammed?
[02:13] <linuxjeff> crimsun: thanks
[02:13] <linner> tylo:  can you explain exactly the error messages you're getting to crimsun ?
[02:13] <zack_> im having problems with ati drivers!
[02:13] <zack_> but im working on it... i hope ati rotts in hell
[02:13] <ColonelKernel> how do I run X apps as root when im logged into X as a user?
[02:13] <tylo> sure.
[02:14] <tylo> evian: Right, me too.
[02:14] <trigg> tylo, "Windows Installer?"  are you trying to get the .Net components to work?
[02:14] <liz4rd> anyone els have nvidia driver problems ie them not working in breezy?
[02:14] <qt2> ColonelKernel: open a root terminal and type: sudo programname?
[02:14] <zack_> liz4rd
[02:14] <crimsun> epiloc, paste onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl the section that you added to the dhcpd conffile
[02:14] <zack_> is all ur kernal modules updated?
[02:14] <qt2> ColonelKernel: or if you dont want to keep the terminal open, sudo programname &
[02:14] <ColonelKernel> qt2 Error: could not open display
[02:14] <ColonelKernel> Unable to start video emulation
[02:14] <tylo> trigg: I'm following this guide. For configuring wine with WineTools. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=149181&postcount=4
[02:15] <Agrajag> qt2: why sudo if you're ina  root terminal already?
[02:15] <qt2> Agrajag: err, because my groggy brain says so? :P
[02:15] <liz4rd> zack_, yeah
[02:15] <liz4rd> just today
[02:15] <liz4rd> should i reinstall them?
[02:15] <ColonelKernel> I am logged in as a user, I have X/Gnome all up, im in an xterminal and im logged in as root via su -
[02:15] <zack_> umm
[02:15] <zack_> ur fullly updated?
[02:16] <ColonelKernel> I need to be able to give root the ability to start apps
[02:16] <tylo> trigg: At the bottom of the post it tells an order in which things should be installed.
[02:16] <qt2> bah, dont use su.
[02:16] <qt2> ColonelKernel: bah, dont use su.
[02:16] <crimsun> epiloc, make sure your dhcp server is the only one on your network
[02:16] <grndslm> dooglus: did anybody answer your question about a program to notify you when your harddisk is full??  same thing JUST happened to me
[02:16] <qt2> ubotu, rootsudo
[02:16] <ubotu> somebody said rootsudo was at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[02:16] <qt2> ColonelKernel: ^^^
[02:16] <trigg> tylo: you could always try the most recent version of winetools- http://www.von-thadden.de/Joachim/WineTools/
[02:17] <ColonelKernel> Anyone else? how do I give root the ability to run apps when logged in as root via su -?
[02:17] <liz4rd> zack_, yup
[02:17] <ZBlach> howdy. anyone here get wireless networking up in breezy?
[02:17] <liz4rd> synaptic said i was
[02:17] <sudonim> can anyone recommend podcast software for ubuntu?
[02:17] <thiago> hello, I need a favour from someone with Breezy
[02:17] <cevizoglu> ColonelKernel, your question was already answered twice
[02:17] <thiago> can someone run  nm -D /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 | grep -c Xau ?
[02:17] <liz4rd> thiago, yeah?
[02:17] <sudonim> just for downloading podcasts
[02:17] <qt2> ColonelKernel: err, read that link, and use sudo instaed of su -...
[02:17] <qt2> *instead
[02:17] <grndslm> sudonim: streamtuner works well for me
[02:17] <nixiac> qt2: I might not know programming as I am trying to llearn it, but, I been doing hardware since 1965.  building, finin... and one thing I have found is that when we put a CDrom on the same IDE buss as a hard drive, they all slow down to the cdrom buss speed.  AND, I have found other problemm, too.  So you have CDROM0 installed as second device on first IDE?
[02:17] <sudonim> cool. Thanks!
[02:17] <epiloc> crimsun, pasted
[02:17] <trigg> tylo: on that last webpage it lists which versions of wine work with winetools
[02:18] <ZBlach> streamtuner, eh?
[02:18] <ColonelKernel> cevizoglu, it has not been answered at all - "dont use su" and "use sudo" are not answers to my question. Sorry.
[02:18] <epiloc> i am on a home lan with a linksys router
[02:18] <qt2> nixiac: 2nd. :o
[02:18] <epiloc> im assuming i need to shut down the dhcp on the router
[02:18] <pgw> anyone using scim on breezy?
[02:18] <crimsun> thiago, the path differs, and the result is 0.
[02:18] <sudonim> grndslm: Does streamtuner do podcasts too?
[02:18] <crimsun> thiago, crimsun@garnish:~$ ls /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 | grep -c Xau
[02:18] <crimsun>   ==> 0
[02:18] <tylo> trigg: Last webpage?
[02:18] <thiago> crimsun: thanks
[02:18] <linuxjeff> ColonelKernel: When you dont cooperate with the people who are trying to help you for free... you get what you pay for
[02:18] <trigg> tylo: http://www.von-thadden.de/Joachim/WineTools/
[02:19] <thiago> crimsun: what X is that?
[02:19] <cevizoglu> !attitude
[02:19] <ubotu> The people in #ubuntu are volunteers, your attitude determines their willingness to help you out.
[02:19] <crimsun> thiago, "what X"?
[02:19] <tylo> trigg: Okay, I gotcha. Had to scroll down a bit.
[02:19] <thiago> crimsun: XFree86 or X.org?
[02:19] <grndslm> sudonim: it just listens to shoutcast files and allows you to save the good stations...no server functionality.  You'd have to look into shoutcast for something like that
[02:19] <crimsun> thiago, X Window System Version 6.8.2 (Ubuntu 6.8.2-69 20050920093941 root@terranova.warthogs.hbd.com)
[02:19] <ColonelKernel> linuxjeff, Im sorry, I appreciate their effort to help, but their answer wasnt what I needed.
[02:19] <nixiac> qt2:  U mean cdrom is on second IDE, and hard drive(s) on primary IDE... cool. Then, I say that somthing is screwy with the permissions...
[02:19] <ColonelKernel> I need an answer to the actual question I asked.
[02:19] <tylo> Heh. Apparantly mine isn't displayed.
[02:20] <tylo> trigg: Aparantly my version of Wine isn't in that list.
[02:20] <Bartimaeus> im so pissed off... Why did they take java out of the hoary extras repository.   Can anyone help me?
[02:20] <qt2> nixiac: inded.
[02:20] <cevizoglu> ColonelKernel, your question was answered, you type the name of the program you want to run in the terminal
[02:20] <linuxjeff> ColnelKernel: Open a normal terminal, then sudo commandname
[02:20] <crimsun> Bartimaeus, why not just make your own deb of a JRE/JDK?
[02:20] <qt2> ColonelKernel: did you ever think that using su - might cause those errors?
[02:20] <ColonelKernel> cevizoglu, im sorry, but that doesnt work, as I posted.
[02:20] <trigg> tylo: ahh...figures. I think there was a link to download his recommended version.
[02:20] <linuxjeff> ColnelKernel: If you are too lazy to use sudo, sudo -s will give you a root shell
[02:20] <ColonelKernel> qt2, doesnt cause them in other distros
[02:20] <qt2> ColonelKernel: and that using sudo instead might solve the errors you're getting? :o
[02:20] <Bartimaeus> msg/ crimsun I dont know how
[02:21] <thiago> crimsun: did you run what you pasted?
[02:21] <qt2> ColonelKernel: ubuntu isnt other distros.
[02:21] <thiago> crimsun: I mean, exactly
[02:21] <crimsun> thiago, no, I added the "==> "
[02:21] <ColonelKernel> qt2, not really, since im trying to run a program I just compile as root, in the /root directory.
[02:21] <linuxjeff> ColonelKernel: the root account isn't disabled in other distros and ubuntu is not other distros. It is ubuntu
[02:21] <hyperactivecrond> !code of conduct
[02:21] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, hyperactivecrond
[02:21] <thiago> crimsun: can you run "nm -D" instead of "ls", please? :-)
[02:21] <qt2> ColonelKernel: the ubuntu devs have gone though painstaking measures to have you specifically NOT use root.
[02:21] <ColonelKernel> My root account isnt disabled.
[02:21] <cevizoglu> ColonelKernel, so you're saying if you want to run gedit, and you type sudo gedit, nothing happens?
[02:21] <tylo> trigg: So that's what you suggest?
[02:21] <crimsun> thiago, 2
[02:22] <ColonelKernel> cevizoglu, that is correct
[02:22] <thiago> crimsun: hmm... interesting
[02:22] <cevizoglu> ColonelKernel, do you have a gui running?
[02:22] <qt2> ColonelKernel: you broke sudo. :P
[02:22] <thiago> crimsun: can you remove the -c (in grep) and tell me which those 2 lines are?
[02:22] <qt2> well, assuming you're running in x. :P
[02:22] <linuxjeff> ColonelKernel: Paste /etc/sudoers at www.pastebin.com
[02:22] <nixiac> qt2:  When I ran KDE, and used KIIIB, every update would wipe out all my user preferences, and settings, and blow my mind, because the blockage wans't in the CDRECORD, nor, in the permissions in USERS/GROUPS, but, it was blocked in the settings file for the front end application... Can you work with that, and figure out where your settings are getting changed, and lock the file down?
[02:22] <trigg> tylo: probably easier than beating your head against the wall as it is now. . .I personally like CrossOver, but it isn't free. . .
[02:22] <evian> ColonelKernel that should work, it does for me
[02:22] <ColonelKernel> cevizoglu, yes, I have Gnome up and running, this is when I open up a terminal , and log in as root.
[02:22] <Bartimaeus> 
[02:22] <crimsun> thiago,  U XauDisposeAuth   U XauGetBestAuthByAddr
[02:23] <thiago> crimsun: it's missing two symbols. Thanks.
[02:23] <cevizoglu> ColonelKernel, have you tried NOT logging in as root and then using sudo?
[02:23] <tylo> trigg: Alright. Thanks for the help.
[02:23] <Bartimaeus> can anyone help me install java
[02:23] <trigg> tylo, sorry I could be more. . . good luck
[02:24] <crimsun> Bartimaeus, it's easy. Install the java-package from multiverse, download a JRE/JDK, and run java-package with it.
[02:24] <tylo> trigg: No problem. Thanks.
[02:24] <qt2> nixiac: i'm a nub, i wouldnt know what to do. :P
[02:24] <skrewdriver> hi guys, i'm a newbie, trying to compile a driver but having problems with make. can anyone help?
[02:24] <thiago> now, can someone with another version of Ubuntu that is not Breezy run the same command? (nm -D /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 | grep -c Xau)
[02:24] <epiloc> If i disable DHCP on my router, will any machines on the network lose their current leases?
[02:24] <crimsun> epiloc, no
[02:24] <Knelix> Ahh.. But I can't get the nice XFCE window borders in Gnome....
[02:24] <linuxjeff> epiloc: no, but when the leases expore, you are out of luck
[02:24] <lgc> trigg, linner: now it's working. Thanks!
[02:24] <ColonelKernel> cevizoglu, considering the program im trying to run is in its own subdir in the /root dir, and just got compiled as root, i figured I would just stick with the root login I was currently using
[02:24] <crimsun> Bartimaeus, please do not message me.
[02:24] <cevizoglu> ColonelKernel, that's what sudo -s is for
[02:25] <Bartimaeus> crimsun, plz help me
[02:25] <epiloc> right
[02:25] <epiloc> ok, time to try again
[02:25] <crimsun> Bartimaeus, I just gave you instructions.
[02:25] <crimsun> Bartimaeus, you're continuing to message me. Please stop that.
[02:26] <epiloc> Ok, getting a new error
[02:26] <Bartimaeus> u stop to then
[02:26] <epiloc> No DHCP or BOOTP offers received
[02:26] <crimsun> Bartimaeus, it's much easier to address me in the channel
[02:26] <Bartimaeus> so why dont u do the same?
[02:26] <trigg> lgc - no problem
[02:26] <evian> ColonelKernel: try some standard program, does that launch as root?
[02:26] <crimsun> Bartimaeus, ...I am.
[02:26] <ColonelKernel> screw it, I wont use su anymore
[02:26] <ColonelKernel> thanks
[02:27] <Bartimaeus> then why is it showing up red
[02:27] <Bartimaeus> isnt that what /msg does?
[02:27] <crimsun> Bartimaeus, no. The red is nick-highlighting.
[02:27] <Bartimaeus> how do you do that
[02:27] <Bartimaeus> im sorry about the msging
[02:27] <epiloc> you type their name
[02:27] <Bartimaeus> is that it?
[02:27] <crimsun> I address you with your nick, prefaced at the beginning of the line.
[02:27] <tristanmike> Bartimaeus, is this line red?
[02:28] <epiloc> crimsun, I am getting a new error now...  making progress :)
[02:28] <Bartimaeus> yes
[02:28] <Psylo> hi, im trying to intall vegastrike and ./configure says "error: *** Python version 2.2 or later not found!" but version 2.4 is installed what can i do?
[02:28] <Bartimaeus> oh, ok
[02:28] <Jan-> Why was the decision made to not have a root account in ubuntu
[02:28] <bimberi> Bartimus - and this line isn't red because of a typo :)
[02:28] <_jason> does anyone know how to make the applet background transparent in gnome?
[02:28] <crimsun> epiloc, what error?
[02:28] <tristanmike> Bartimaeus, so you should use "Tab" to fill the name to avoid typos
[02:29] <Bartimaeus> so could you plz tell me how to get the java pacage from mutiverse, even tho ive been a complete a hole?
[02:29] <epiloc> crimsun, "no dhcp or bootp offers received"
[02:29] <nixiac> qt2: Try going over to the ubuntu (you ARE running a newly installed Hoary, right?), "System",  >administration>Synaptic Package Manager and >search "k3b".
[02:29] <tristanmike> Bartimaeus, ie...bart<tab> spell your name
[02:29] <qt2> nixiac: i have k3b installed.
[02:30] <tristanmike> !tell Bartimaeus about java
[02:30] <crimsun> Bartimaeus, enable the multiverse repository. Download a JRE/JDK from Sun/IBM/Blackdown. Run make-jpkg with the downloaded JRE/JDK as the argument.
[02:30] <Fyawerx> is there a specific channel for breezy?
[02:30] <crimsun> Fyawerx, no.
[02:30] <nixiac> qt2: Kewl, now go to K#B>Settings and do them again?
[02:30] <Bartimaeus> crimsun, cool, thanks
[02:30] <machado> hi all
[02:30] <Fyawerx> figured i'd try a dist upgrade and see what happened ;)
[02:31] <Psylo> im trying to intall vegastrike and ./configure says "error: *** Python version 2.2 or later not found!" but version 2.4 is installed what can i do?
[02:31] <crimsun> Fyawerx, we pretty much field help for warty, hoary, and breezy at this point.
[02:31] <machado> how can i update my 5.04 in 5.10?
[02:31] <Fyawerx> crimsun: thanks
[02:31] <bimberi> machado: yes
[02:31] <crimsun> Psylo, you need python2.4-dev and python-dev
[02:31] <bimberi> ubotu tell machado about upgrade2breezy
[02:31] <thread> anybody update to breezy and lose their synaptic touchpad driver?
[02:31] <thread> it fails to find my touchpad
[02:32] <machado> btkx
[02:32] <linner> thread:  it found mine
[02:32] <BlueEagle> thread: It fails to find it or it doesn't load a driver for it?
[02:32] <thread> fails to find it
[02:32] <thread> the synaptic driver fails to load
[02:32] <linner> thread:  mine was a fresh install
[02:32] <BlueEagle> thread: it is gone from lspci?
[02:32] <Fyawerx> botu tell fyawerx about upgrade2breezy
[02:32] <djjason> Has anyone also had this problem. When I open up e.g. the "home" folder some of the content e.g. subfolders are partially hidden becuase the "go behind the left border/edge" of the window. I am viewing the files as icons, not as a list. Is this a known problem in gnome or?
[02:33] <epiloc> can anyone help me setup my dhcp.conf?
[02:33] <qt2> nixiac: ehh? i'm not having problems with cd burning... i'm having problems getting a cd to mount automatically when i insert it in the cdrom drive o.O;
[02:33] <Fyawerx> ubotu tell fyawerx about upgrade2breezy
[02:33] <hyperactivecrond> !tell Fyawerx about upgrade2breezy
[02:33] <Fyawerx> yep, got it, missed the u the first time :)
[02:33] <thread> I don't see it in lspci, but I don't remember seeing it there before
[02:33] <nixiac> So, my apt-get dist-upgrade made Hoary 5.04 into something with kernel 2.6.10-2-10-k7, so is I into some new area of Ubuntu, not Hoary???
[02:33] <BlueEagle> thread: Where did you see it then?
[02:33] <bimberi> Fyawerx: "/msg ubotu upgrade2breezy" also works
[02:33] <trigg> qt2: do you have hald installed?
[02:33] <bimberi> :)
[02:33] <Psylo> crimson, worked! thx
[02:34] <Fyawerx> cool, thanks
[02:34] <thread> linner, BlueEagle: tpconfig detects it perfectly
[02:34] <thread> just... the x log says it can't find it
[02:34] <crimsun> nixiac, "2.6.10-2-10-k7"?
[02:34] <thread> the x driver isn't working somehow
[02:34] <Penguin> hello
[02:34] <BlueEagle> thread: Which driver is it trying to load for it?
[02:34] <liz4rd> hi
[02:34] <thread> synaptics_drv.o ?
[02:35] <Penguin> just wanna say that ubuntu fecking rock my balls and that I'm happely using it for like 5 months now
[02:35] <BlueEagle> let me rephrase: Which device is it using?
[02:35] <liz4rd> Penguin, word
[02:35] <Penguin> word?
[02:35] <Bartimaeus> crimsun, is it a jre/jdk package in the multiverse repository?
[02:35] <thread> BlueEagle: /dev/psaux
[02:35] <nixiac> I screwed up the kernel numbers... crimsun... in a sec. but, gotta figure out that qt2 has noauto in his fstab, but I lost that line and gotta find it...
[02:35] <crimsun> Bartimaeus, no.
[02:35] <liz4rd> Penguin, lol i was agreeing with you
[02:35] <Penguin> ah ok ^^
[02:36] <Bartimaeus> crimsun, oh, how do iget it then?
[02:36] <BlueEagle> thread: ...and is that the correct device? (ie. the same device as it used before)
[02:36] <crimsun> Bartimaeus, you use a Web browser and navigate to Sun's or IBM's Web site and download one
[02:36] <thread> BlueEagle: Yes. same as my old xorg.conf
[02:36] <Bartimaeus> crimsun, its just called a jre/jdk?
[02:36] <trigg> Bartimaeus: http://www.java.com/en/
[02:36] <BlueEagle> thread: cat /dev/psaux and use your touchpad. If you get lots of characters then it's the right device. If not you might want to look for another device that produces output.
[02:37] <thread> BlueEagle: it is the right device
[02:37] <qt2> trigg: i do... i think o.O;
[02:37] <thread> it's just not being detected as a synaptic touchpad
[02:37] <liz4rd> trigg, isnt it apt-get jre and jsdk or w.e
[02:37] <BlueEagle> thread: Well, you said that it loaded a driver fine, right?
[02:37] <liz4rd> trigg, dont know the full package names
[02:37] <thread> no
[02:37] <BlueEagle> thread: ie tpconfig found it.
[02:37] <thread> BlueEagle: that's the driver it should be using
[02:37] <Bartimaeus> trigg, is it just the main file you download?
[02:37] <trigg> liz4rd: you can install the jre in breezy, but is an older version.
[02:38] <thread> tpconfig doesn't have anything to do with xorg's synaptic_drv.o driver, does it??
[02:38] <liz4rd> oh
[02:38] <Bartimaeus> trigg, i am using hoary
[02:38] <liz4rd> didnt know that
[02:38] <trigg> Bartimaeus: yep.
[02:38] <liz4rd> i wish we where as current as gentoo users
[02:38] <liz4rd> :P
[02:38] <Bartimaeus> trigg, so what do i do with the file now?
[02:38] <trigg> liz4rd: the hoary-backports have the most recent version
[02:38] <thread> BlueEagle: ldd tpconfig reveals that it doesn't have jack to do with x
[02:38] <liz4rd> oh
[02:38] <sorush20> I want to be able to make a number of webpages into one document, eg, pdf, I'm trying to do this manually copying and pasting every page into the same document, then there is a problem, I want the links in the html to be directed to with in the document rather than to the browser, is there there an automatic way of doing this..
[02:38] <BlueEagle> liz4rd: Why? Which features are you missing?
[02:38] <trigg> Bartimaeus: make-jpkg file
[02:39] <liz4rd> well xfce4-4.2.2 i dont get all the toys and such just base
[02:39] <Bartimaeus> do i substitute something with file?
[02:39] <nixiac> qt2: I lost your fstab line... looking and cannot find what you posted... but, is there 'noauto' in there?
[02:39] <BlueEagle> thread: Well, if you can make it work in console you should be able to make it work in X. Now, since tpconfig detects that it is a device it probably is so. The best guess I've got is that it's been moved in the /dev tree.
[02:39] <trigg> Bartimaeus: you have the tar.gz file, right?
[02:39] <Bartimaeus> trigg, no the bin
[02:40] <BlueEagle> thread: If you've already tried other possible devices there please tell me now. If not please tell me that you don't appreciate my attempts to help you.
[02:40] <Bartimaeus> trigg, is that bad?
[02:40] <lgc> trigg,  can I ask you some more?
[02:40] <trigg> Bartimaeus: no that's fine, use the bin file
[02:40] <BlueEagle> jees.
[02:40] <trigg> lgc: go ahead
[02:40] <Fyawerx> hmm, well, think im all upgraded
[02:40] <epiloc> crimsun: can you help me set up a basic dhcp server?
[02:40] <epiloc> im looking through the dhcp.conf file
[02:41] <Bartimaeus> trigg, it gave me "bash: make-jpkg: command not found
[02:41] <thread> BlueEagle: I've tried /dev/input/mice .... cat /dev/psaux does produce output when I move my touchpad
[02:41] <thread> BlueEagle: there just seems to be something wrong with x's ability to properly identify my touchpad
[02:41] <thread> Synaptics Touchpad no synaptics event device found (checked 2 nodes)
[02:41] <thread> (EE) Synaptics Touchpad no synaptics touchpad detected and no repeater device
[02:41] <thread> (EE) Synaptics Touchpad Unable to query/initialize Synaptics hardware.
[02:41] <nixiac> qt2: Didja see auto or noauto, in your fstab for the /media/cdrom0 ?
[02:41] <trigg> Bartimaeus: apt-get install java-package
[02:41] <benkong2> I got a beagle setup problem can someone tell me what this means? http://pastebin.com/376366
[02:41] <lgc> trigg,  why is it that, during the install I saw gcc and g++ flash before my eyes (which means they were being installed) but they are nowhere to be found!
[02:41] <Bartimaeus> trigg, ok
[02:41] <BlueEagle> thread: Well, try using a generic driver for it in xorg.conf
[02:42] <qt2> nixiac: noauto.
[02:42] <trigg> lgc: not sure - try installing build-essential
[02:42] <thread> BlueEagle: what you mean? my touchpad is working right now... I want to use the synaptics driver
[02:42] <qt2> nixiac: let me guess, that's the problem? :P
[02:42] <Aragorn_Guardian> hi all
[02:42] <qt2> nixiac: /dev/hdb        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660     ro,user,noauto                    0   0
[02:42] <qt2> nixiac: to be precise
[02:42] <lgc> trigg, apt-get install build-essential?
[02:42] <crimsun> epiloc, apt-get install dhcp3-server
[02:43] <trigg> lgc: yep, should work
[02:43] <BlueEagle> thread: I see. This is a kernel driver, right?
[02:44] <Penguin> what a support in here, and I was amezed by the forum, this is really a dream or what ^^
[02:44] <thread> BlueEagle: the synaptics_drv.o of which I speak came with x, and resides in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input
[02:44] <epiloc> crimsun: done
[02:44] <crimsun> thread, did it work under Hoary?
[02:44] <vcg3rd> Wierd bootloader issue. Installed 5.04 on hdb1.  It recognized Mepis on hdb3 as Debian 3.1 when installing Grub.  Yet when I finish the install it list hdb3 as memtest in menu and if I click it it actually starts a memtest, but Mepis is still there on hdb3
[02:44] <thread> crimsun: yes it did
[02:44] <nixiac> Crimsun:  My kernel seems to have updated to 2.6.10-2-k7, this is good? and, it is HOARY?
[02:44] <crimsun> epiloc, now modify the conffile
[02:45] <linner> trigg:  may I pm you?
[02:45] <crimsun> nixiac, no.
[02:45] <lgc> trigg, it's ticking...done! g++ works already. But what's the magic? What packages were built?
[02:45] <epiloc> crimsun: yes, this is the confusing part
[02:45] <crimsun> nixiac, Hoary has 2.6.10-5-k7
[02:45] <nixiac> qt2, ever used VI to edit a file?
[02:45] <qt2> nixiac: nope, i've only used nano...
[02:45] <crimsun> epiloc, what's confusing?
[02:45] <trigg> linner, sure, lgc, what packages are you trying to build?
[02:45] <epiloc> crimsun: want me to paste what i have in the dhcpd.conf so far?
[02:45] <Bartimaeus> trigg, im sorry, but what do i do when ive done that? make-jpkg file?
[02:46] <crimsun> epiloc, I thought you already pasted it
[02:46] <cr4x0r> i have a question...when ubuntu 5.10 is released is there a way to apt-get upgrade to the new system or is it better to use the cd?
[02:46] <epiloc> crimsun: yes, but it did not work
[02:46] <thread> I'm so stumped on this. I upgraded to breezy earlier today, and I've been bangin my head about this touchpad issue for hours
[02:46] <epiloc> crimsun: i need to establish the subnet, range etc...
[02:46] <crimsun> cr4x0r, using apt-get/aptitude/synaptic will do the same thing installing from a CD will
[02:46] <trigg> Bartimaeus: you should have a new .deb file
[02:46] <nixiac> I do not know nano, but, use what ever is cool for lyou, to edit your etc/fstab and change to 'auto'...
[02:46] <Bartimaeus> trigg, where?
[02:46] <epiloc> crimsun: not sure exactly how to do this but slowly hacking away at it
[02:46] <trigg> Bartimaeus: in the directory that you are in.
[02:46] <lgc> trigg, I got g** working, thanks, but I don't know what does "build-essential" comprise.
[02:46] <sorush20> how do I restart my hotplug system just the printing part not any other part
[02:47] <Bartimaeus> trigg, and do i replace file with anything?
[02:47] <cr4x0r> crimsun: i just have to change the repositories?
[02:47] <crimsun> epiloc, what you pasted at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2597 is sufficient
[02:47] <crimsun> cr4x0r, if you're running warty or hoary now, yes.
[02:47] <trigg> lgc: it's a meta-package - not sure what all it contains
[02:47] <cr4x0r> crimsun: ok, thank you
[02:47] <evian> tylo and crimsun: I went into the volume control and unmuted the microphone, now I can hear everything I speak echoed to me (with no app like skype even running.) And I can hear beeps in the terminal.
[02:48] <lgc> trigg, hmmm...
[02:48] <trigg> Bartimaeus: sud dpkg -i jre_1.5.deb  (or whatever it is called)
[02:48] <evian> if I pull out the headset I get feedback
[02:48] <nixiac> qt2:  BEFORE we edit a file, especially the FSTAB, we do a back up of it, so we can repair back to a bootable stage... I once accidently removed the first letter of the first sentence, and got lost in confused swampiness...
[02:48] <Bartimaeus> ok
[02:48] <trigg> lgc: apt-cache showpkg build-essential
[02:48] <crimsun> evian, so mute the mic.
[02:48] <qt2> nixiac: i know about backing up...
[02:49] <lgc> trigg, let me see...
[02:49] <evian> crimsun, that doesn't stop it
[02:49] <nixiac> qt2: you ain't no nub... or, you slept in a Residence Inn last nite...
[02:50] <qt2> nixiac: i know the basics. :
[02:50] <qt2> :P
[02:50] <trigg> Bartimaeus: that should have been sudo, not sud ;)
[02:50] <crimsun> evian, paste output from the following onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl: cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer
[02:50] <nixiac> qt2: I once know trhe basics, but, amd aging and seem to have misplaced them...
[02:50] <lgc> trigg, it seems to be just C-related stuff.
[02:50] <Knelix> The window menu icon for panel is too small.. it doesn't scale up like the rest of the icons...
[02:50] <Bartimaeus> trigg, ya, i figured
[02:50] <qt2> nixiac: heh.
[02:50] <evian> crimsun: ok but give me a minute..
[02:51] <lgc> trigg, are you running Breezy?
[02:51] <Bartimaeus> trigg, it gives me"dpkg: error processing jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.deb (--install):
[02:51] <Bartimaeus>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[02:51] <Bartimaeus> Errors were encountered while processing:
[02:51] <Bartimaeus>  jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.deb
[02:51] <Bartimaeus> "
[02:51] <trigg> lgc: look at the reverse dependcies . . . and yes, running Breezy
[02:51] <epiloc> crimsun: what must i do to start the dhcp server?  my machine still isnt grabbing an IP
[02:51] <packman_e> hello all
[02:51] <linner> hey guys, now I have a question... I've tried installing the NDISwrapper for my (don't pull your hair out now) broadcom wlan for my Compaq V2000Z.  I've been following the instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper and am stuck at line 5.   I don't see the wlan0 in my Sys -> Admin -> Networking spot.
[02:52] <lgc> trigg, did you have any problem updating?
[02:52] <trigg> Bartimaeus: any other errors?
[02:52] <linner> where do i go from here?
[02:52] <Bartimaeus> no
[02:52] <crimsun> epiloc, it's started when you install it. You need to restart it to apply your modifications.
[02:52] <trigg> lgc: I did initially, but then after the Preview version came out, it worked fine.
[02:52] <crimsun> epiloc, you _are_ running the dhcp server on another machine, correct?
[02:52] <cevizoglu> what is the name for the next ubuntu?
[02:52] <epiloc> i am running it on this machine
[02:52] <Bartimaeus> trigg, none
[02:52] <os2mac> Linner I don't think it will work...
[02:52] <os2mac> I tried all last night.
[02:52] <nixiac> linner: you made progress!  an hour ago you were stuck at line 4!  Been there, done that, but, you did it quicker!
[02:52] <linner> os2mac:  you did????
[02:52] <crimsun> epiloc, "this" machine being the one you want to install Ubuntu on, or...?
[02:53] <trigg> Bartimaeus: are you running Breezy?
[02:53] <linner> nixiac:  *smile*  woo hoo!
[02:53] <Bartimaeus> no, hoary
[02:53] <packman_e> hey guys i don't suppose that anyone knows if the repositories in the ubuntuguide is changed or down because i get errors when i try to update them. any ideas please?
[02:53] <linner> os2mac:  what was your problem?
[02:53] <trigg> Bartimaeus, hmm, do you have the hoary-backports in your repository list?
[02:53] <thread> crimsun: do you know anything about synaptic? why might it not work if tpconfig recognizes my synaptic tp just fine?
[02:53] <epiloc> crimsun: no... 'this' machine as in the one i am talking to you on right now... i am running ubuntu on it already
[02:53] <linner> nixiac:  did you get it installed?
[02:53] <jrattner1> is there an "America's Army" ubuntu package?
[02:53] <os2mac> well I tried to use the appget functions to install NDISwrapper but it only installed the user tools
[02:53] <cevizoglu> packman_e, if it's down, try using a different mirror
[02:53] <Bartimaeus> trigg, what are those?
[02:53] <evian> crimsun: ok I pasted it
[02:53] <os2mac> it didn't install the kernel portion.
[02:54] <os2mac> so I could load the driver .inf file but I couldn't use it.
[02:54] <linner> os2mac:  I think I'm okay on that part.  I'm not sure if it installed the kernel part. I'm not experienced enough to know how to find out.
[02:54] <lgc> trigg, I ask you that because I first tried to update from Hoary with catastrophic results, and then I tried to install from scratch, with just about the same outcome. I never got past the libgnome-common installation.
[02:54] <packman_e> cevizoglu, how do i go about that and where do i find them. i am just following the guide
[02:54] <os2mac> did you try to install the .inf file from the command prompt.
[02:54] <cevizoglu> !tell packman_e about repositories
[02:54] <linner> os2mac:  It just dawned on me ... you have the same wlan on a mac???
[02:55] <linner> os2mac:  yes... and it took it just fine I thought.. per nalioth
[02:55] <trigg> Bartimaeus: check out this web page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[02:55] <os2mac> no....
[02:55] <nixiac> qt2: Funny, I got the DVD from Linux Magazine Issue 53, March 2005, and it had these checkboxes on the install starting script!  When I checked the LAN one, up ca\me a chooice of two forms of networking, and one was NDIS..... and I picked the Other choice!
[02:55] <cevizoglu> packman_e, what, you mean ubuntuguide?
[02:55] <os2mac> I am not ON a mac I AM a mac.
[02:55] <Bartimaeus> trigg, ok
[02:55] <packman_e> yep
[02:55] <trigg> lgc: the most recent install cd for Breezy seems to work well.
[02:55] <crimsun> evian, do you have an ~/.asoundrc or /etc/asound.conf ?
[02:55] <linner> nixiac:  where can i get that magazine????
[02:56] <cevizoglu> packman_e, it's best not to use ubuntuguide, I hear
[02:56] <linner> nixiac:  maybe that's what i need
[02:56] <packman_e> just installed ubuntu 5.04 and going throught the guide
[02:56] <packman_e> why?
[02:56] <lgc> trigg, I got it last Friday. Did the ISO image change already?
[02:56] <benkong2> woopie beagle is working...now to just get the indexing completed. Thanks all
[02:56] <os2mac> I was able to install the bcmwl5.inf file as well .
[02:56] <evian> crimsun, yeah I have an /etc/asound.conf as specified by http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063&pp=10&highlight=Failed+construct+test+pipeline
[02:56] <test34-> !tell packman_e about ubuntuguide
[02:56] <linner> lgc:  there are nightly builds
[02:56] <os2mac> but when I went to assign it to the card I couldn't figure out what the lspcid for the card was.
[02:56] <trigg> lgc, I don't think so - but I was able to install from it just fine.  maybe you got a corrupted iso. . .
[02:56] <crimsun> thread, in /proc/bus/input/devices, do you see "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad" or "AlpsPS/2 ALPS Touchpad"?
[02:56] <qt2> nixiac: heh.
[02:57] <cevizoglu> !tell packman_e about ubuntuguide
[02:57] <trigg> lgc, I have heard of it happening
[02:57] <crimsun> evian, kill it
[02:57] <cevizoglu> oops
[02:57] <crimsun> then paste the output from amixer
[02:57] <Bartimaeus> good bye all and thanks for your help
[02:57] <linuxn00b> guys i need help on running the live version of ubuntu
[02:57] <nixiac> I get mine at Border's books, but, this is Sept, and that was ISsue for March!  But, might be on Amazon.com, and They sell back issues! here is the URL: http://www.linux-magazine.com
[02:57] <trigg> lgc, Bartimaeus - okay, all, gotta go - must make dinner later
[02:57] <lgc> trigg, no. The checksum was right, and I verified it yesterday.
[02:57] <thread> crimsun: N: Name="SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad"
[02:57] <linuxn00b> i keep getting an error trying to load x
[02:57] <lgc> trigg, thanks and till next time.
[02:58] <trigg> lgc: later
[02:58] <linuxn00b> it says "could not be detected!" and "no screens found"
[02:58] <linner> nixiac:  then if you got it set up.... can you help me??? *wink wink wink*
[02:58] <linner> :)
[02:58] <evian> crimsun, ok I removed it, now what? reboot?
[02:58] <packman_e> !faq
[02:58] <ubotu> somebody said faq was The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/
[02:58] <lgc> linner, are you running Breezy?
[02:58] <os2mac> yeah can you HELP US?/
[02:58] <linner> lgc:  yes
[02:58] <linner> lgc:  on a laptop
[02:59] <lgc> linner, did you have trouble with libgnome-common?
[02:59] <nixiac> Linner: The base install, plus the Desktop and Fileserver options, seemed to do all the work!
[02:59] <linner> lgc:  no the onlyproblems i had was with my ati card... but we got that fixed
[02:59] <crimsun> evian, no, just paste the output from amixer
[03:00] <linuxn00b> is there any way for me to install ubuntu and edit the x config file so it'll run my video card?
[03:00] <linner> nixiac:  I didnt' see anything about desktop and fileserver options in here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[03:00] <nixiac> qt2: the Linux - Magazine has three issue subs, starting at any recent issue, it appears!  Or, you can order any archiveed issue, if still in stock....
[03:00] <evian> crimsun, ok it might be working... at least beep media player started working
[03:00] <lgc> linner, hmmm. I thought mine was a more popular problem with Breezy.
[03:00] <evian> crimsun, let me try skype now
[03:00] <linner> lgc:  it might be... you're talking still about the touch pad right?
[03:01] <crimsun> thread, lsmod|grep ^evdev
[03:01] <thread> crimsun: built into the kernel
[03:01] <jroes> is there any way to make emacs accept pastes from other apps?
[03:01] <chris_> i need help with my /etc/apt/sources.list in hoary, can anyone tell me what its supposed to look like?
[03:01] <jroes> I copied something in Firefox and I want to paste it into emacs, but it won't work :/
[03:01] <linner> lgc:  i was on the phone for a while and wasn't paying much attention to the channel until a few minutes ago
[03:01] <nixiac> Both Debian, and Ubuntu, that I have installed this past week, about four times each, have an apparently identical install process!
[03:01] <chris_> (total f'n newbie
[03:01] <lgc> linner, no. I never had trouble with it.
[03:01] <HrdwrBoB> nixiac: that's not a coincidence :)
[03:01] <linner> lgc:  i'm sorry then... what were you referring to?
[03:01] <jroes> nixiac: Ubuntu is based off of Debian
[03:02] <crimsun> thread, err, self-compiled kernel?
[03:02] <thread> crimsun: yes
[03:02] <lgc> linner, I was saying that I couldn't install Breezy because I never got past libgnome-common
[03:02] <crimsun> thread, boot into 2.6.12-9.18 and try again
[03:02] <nixiac> Well, the OTHER 295 distros that are Debian based have all kinds of installers, some thatseem weird!
[03:02] <epiloc> Starting DHCP server: dhcpd3 failed to start - check syslog for diagnostics.
[03:02] <linner> lgc:  ok... i'm sorry i misunderstood... yeah which version of breezy do you have?
[03:02] <thread> crimsun: I tried that
[03:03] <thread> crimsun: I will do it again, however... brb
[03:03] <linner> lgc:  i tried the amd64 because I have a turion64 chip... won't fly at all... then i downloaded the i386 version.
[03:03] <crimsun> thread, is Load "synaptic" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[03:03] <cevizoglu> nixiac, why change the debian installer when it already works?
[03:03] <crimsun> thread, sorry, Load "synaptics"
[03:03] <lgc> linner, 5.10 for i386
[03:03] <linner> lgc:  absolutely no problems minus the ati driver which we fixed with the VESA driver
[03:03] <linner> lgc:  yeah that's what i'm using
[03:03] <linner> lgc:  what laptop do you have?
[03:03] <nixiac> I do know that I am very impressed, having come down the LONG & WINDING ROAD rom some of those, to UBUNTU!
[03:04] <lgc> linner, I have a Dell Inspiron 6000.
[03:04] <linner> lgc:  have you been here:  http://www.linux-laptop.net/
[03:04] <lgc> linner, no. What's there to see?
[03:04] <bimberi> nixiac: you too :)
[03:04] <linner> lgc:  here's another one specific for your laptop:  http://clydefrog.plus.com/~rob/inspiron6000.php
[03:05] <Spermite>  /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_clip.0": No symbols found any ideas how i fix this
[03:05] <evian> crimsun, it isn't working in skype yet, but maybe it is close. but unfortunately it is time for me to have my weekly skype chat with my sister, so I will have to reboot into windows for that. Thanks for your help, maybe I'll catch you later.
[03:05] <Fitzsimmons> if I install from the preview release will it just come up to date with the stable release via apt when stable uh... goes stable?
[03:05] <lgc> linner, I'm looking at it. Interesting...
[03:05] <linner> lgc:  yeah there are several entries for your model
[03:06] <nixiac> linner: I thought that the VESA driver is the OLDER video standard, and actully, if I want really good resolution, etc. from a Linux listed peice of video hardware, then, I should use the driver for that piece of listed hardware... such as an Nvidia card driver, instead of the VESA driver, but, mayhap some Xpert can chime in?
[03:06] <bimberi> Fitzsimmons: yes
[03:07] <fmasi> how do i instal ooo 1.9.130 ?? in the reps i found only 1.9.73
[03:07] <linner> nixiac:  I have a very, very new laptop and my particular card.. the ati 200m, can't run anything including a radeon driver... it has to use the VESA
[03:07] <thread> crimsun: Linux thread 2.6.12-9-386 #1 Mon Sep 26 23:17:39 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[03:07] <cevizoglu> fmasi, very carefully
[03:08] <linner> nixiac:  it's not perfect... such as I can't standby or hibernate with out serious problems... but crap, as long as I can run linux instead of windows I'm a happy camper
[03:08] <Hydrogen> do I need to do any special magic to get a xorg display on :2?
[03:08] <fmasi> cevizoglu what do you mean by very carefully
[03:08] <nixiac> bimberi: FreeBSD, Caldera, Storm Linux, and Red Hat 5.1, in 1997... when the Evil Empire strated to flunk out on us... and we started to gather together those 'curbside donations' and cast-offs...
[03:08] <linner> nixiac:  i just need my wireless card to work so that i can work remotely at my client sitesw
[03:08] <linner> sites
[03:08] <epiloc> where is the syslog for DCHP3 ?
[03:09] <haja> How can I install True Type Fonts in Ubuntu?
[03:09] <crimsun> epiloc, /var/log/daemon.log
[03:09] <crimsun> haja, enable multiverse and install msttcorefonts
[03:09] <haja> thanks
[03:09] <crimsun> thread, post your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:09] <cevizoglu> fmasi, hard to explain
[03:09] <linner> nixiac:  that's why I was asking for your help in getting it up and running
[03:09] <bimberi> nixiac: :), that's a longer journey than mine - which started in about '99 - RH6
[03:09] <thread> crimsun: gladly
[03:09] <shawnz> does anyone have a moto4lin deb?
[03:09] <thread> crimsun: http://quicken.ath.cx/Xorg.0.log
[03:10] <fmasi> cevizoglu, is ther enny whay to instal in like i normly instal the 1.9.73 ????
[03:10] <linner> nixiac:  re: using the VESA driver, do you understand now why it works?
[03:10] <crimsun> thread, you're using the wrong Synaptics driver
[03:10] <nixiac> This has a nVidia M64, TNT2, RIVA, 32Mb ram, but, it IS a desktop cobbled together from salvage...  Unfortunately, the 'nVidia card' is actually a version built by Pine (which might have been a garage start-up, in Taiwan...
[03:11] <thread> crimsun: really??
[03:11] <bob832> hello everyone . . . just installed ubuntu today and must say that i like it
[03:11] <thread> crimsun: I thought there was only one
[03:11] <epiloc> crimsun: any ideas why i cant restart my dhcp server?
[03:11] <shawnz> bob832, yes, everyone always does
[03:11] <bimberi> bob832: good to hear :)
[03:11] <bimberi> read even :P
[03:11] <crimsun> thread, dpkg -l xorg-driver-synaptics|grep ^ii
[03:11] <linner> nixiac:  right on... and because it's a desktop already it's an easier workaround :)
[03:11] <nixiac> linner: yeah, been there. VESA is great for my servers, or, when I don't really know what it is, and the installer selects it forme... anything to get up!
[03:11] <thread> crimsun: ii  xorg-driver-synaptics 0.14.3+revertedto+0.13.6-0ubuntu3 Synaptics TouchPad driver for X.Org server
[03:11] <linner> nixiac:  exactly dude!
[03:12] <dave> bob832: installed it a week ago, its great :)
[03:12] <cevizoglu> fmasi, I'm not experienced enough to answer you on that one, so I won't give you bad advice
[03:12] <crimsun> thread, and I presume you have Load "synaptics" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[03:12] <nixiac> Gads!  I gotta drink O'Douls, (non-alcoholic- just turned diabetic...)
[03:12] <bob832> quick question though  :)   is it possible to change it so that the master volumn control up by the clock controls the PCM volumn?
[03:12] <crimsun> thread, dpkg seems to be saying the right thing
[03:13] <fmasi> cevizoglu , whith ooo do you have ?
[03:13] <cevizoglu> cevizoglu, which what?
[03:13] <cevizoglu> oops
[03:13] <crimsun> bob832, right-click > Preferences
[03:13] <cevizoglu> s/cevizoglu/fmasi
[03:13] <bimberi> bob832: right-click on the control and select preferences
[03:13] <thread> crimsun: in the Modules section? I didn't have to do that before
[03:13] <crimsun> thread, just check if it's present
[03:13] <shawnz> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2599 << Any idea what is going wrong there?
[03:13] <cafuego_> bob832: What happened to the other 830?
[03:13] <lgc> linner, it seems this guy tweaked everything to get his lap working. I'm lucky in that almost everything seems to work, except for the "eject" key and the multimedia buttons. But I don't think he addresses this. There's someoneelse who does, though.
[03:14] <thread> crimsun: no, I don't have a Load "synaptics"
[03:14] <crimsun> thread, (it should be)
[03:14] <bob832> that simple huh?  i thought i would be editing files and such
[03:14] <SuperLag> Any of you guys had issues just doing s/hoary/breezy in sources.list and upgrading that way?
[03:14] <bob832> cafuego:  the number is the time when i first registered my irc nick  :-)
[03:14] <cevizoglu> fmasi, I recommend you find some info on how to create your own package from a source build, etc.
[03:15] <fmasi> cevizoglu ok
[03:15] <thread> crimsun: only the mouse device's section has Driver "synaptics"
[03:15] <cevizoglu> fmasi, if you can't find a .deb which works
[03:15] <cafuego_> bbo830: Thursday 01 January, 1970 10:13:52?
[03:15] <bob832> thanks for the help, that did it
[03:15] <crimsun> thread, hmm, that should suffice
[03:15] <thread> crimsun: what were you saying about a wrong driver?
[03:15] <linner> lgc: yeah.... there are a LOT of other posts for your model... check 'em out... there's bound to be a solution
[03:15] <thread> crimsun: there is only one synaptics driver
[03:16] <thread> crimsun: and it's not detecting my touchpad
[03:16] <lgc> linner, I hope so. But I still hope the issue gets solved once the official Breezy release is made.
[03:16] <bob832> i must say (not bashing here) but for the past several months i've been using fedora and i cannot believe how easy that was to change the volumn control
[03:16] <nixiac> On my third session of "Law and Order on the cable, here, and have three other computers to look at, so gotta go and play with them,, also have 15 to assemble, trying to finish my Beowulf Cluster... then, rewire the house for lthe new power drain..."
[03:17] <crimsun> thread, there's a separate, newer one that caused problems and was reverted.
[03:17] <lgc> linner, that is, if it is an issue, at all...
[03:17] <crimsun> thread, hence the package version
[03:17] <Earthen> I got a problem! I rebooted into windows (duel boot) just to get something (first time in weeks) and when i rebooted back into Ubuntu, now there is something using 100% of my CPU every 3-4 seconds for about a second! anyone have any idea's please
[03:17] <linner> lgc:  you're not the only one dude... I've got problems with my time clock, my wlan, and watching multimedia... so I'm lookin' for some serious resolution too
[03:17] <thread> crimsun: right... the name of the package I have says 'reverted' as you say
[03:17] <linner> lgc:  if you have it, it's an issue
[03:17] <epiloc> sweet!, dhcp finally workin!  on to a new error :(
[03:17] <cafuego_> Earthen: run 'top' to see what it is.
[03:17] <Earthen> cafuego, what is top
[03:18] <bimberi> bob832: i'd love to be able to assure that all tweaks are that easy :)
[03:18] <cafuego_> Earthen: Something you should run.
[03:18] <cafuego_> (See man top)
[03:18] <lgc> linner, but only if many have the same problem does the problem get addressed...
[03:18] <cevizoglu> #join mac
[03:18] <linner> lgc:  right now i see only one drawback to linux as opposed to windows... drivers.... that's it.......... the program subsitutions, imho, are superior to most of the win commercial ver.... and the stability without question is superior to all other OS's I've used
[03:18] <cevizoglu> oops
[03:18] <cafuego_> lgc: No, only if a bug is filed.
[03:18] <bob832> i sure there are more diffcult ones but i'm surprised how easy that one was   lol
[03:18] <nixiac> On my third session of "Law and Order on the cable, here, and have three other computers to look at, so gotta go and play with them,, also have 15 to assemble, trying to finish my Beowulf Cluster... then, rewire the house for lthe new power drain..."ps"
[03:18] <Earthen> cafuego, man i'm running system monitor and it looks like a heart beat monitor
[03:19] <linner> lgc:  not necessarily... i understand developers visit this channel too and note problems that have yet to be resolved...
[03:19] <nixiac> hey, try 'ps' besides "top"
[03:19] <linner> cafuego:  hello :)
[03:19] <locomorto> linner: that and games
[03:19] <cafuego_> bob832: The aim of Ubuntu is to make Linux a decent desktop system, for end users. So if there *is* anything that's not easy, it should be addressed and *made* easy.
[03:19] <locomorto> linner: there are a few good ones
[03:19] <bob832> i'm attempting to switch over to linux from windows and right now, i'm just trying out different "flavors" of linux
[03:19] <cafuego_> linner: morning
[03:19] <locomorto> linner: but overall theres not a huge selection
[03:19] <bob832> cafuego:  glad to hear it
[03:19] <hyperactivecrond> bob832, use ubuntu :)
[03:19] <linner> locomorto:  i'm not a gamer :(
[03:20] <lgc> linner, that's right. But my Win-doze purrs like a kitty, and my Linux has frozen my lap a few tens of times...
[03:20] <locomorto> linner: really?
[03:20] <locomorto> linner: then love linux
[03:20] <bob832> so far, i'm really loving it
[03:20] <cafuego_> bob832: SO if you ome across something that ought be easy when it's not, file a bug on the package :-)
[03:20] <locomorto> bob832: do what I do
[03:20] <bob832> and i have only had it on my systme for a few hours
[03:20] <locomorto> bob832: Burn the windows CDs and Box
[03:20] <Earthen> cafuego, it says Xorg using about 17% thats it
[03:20] <cevizoglu> lgc: do you mean windows makes your laptop too hot? lol
[03:20] <hyperactivecrond> bob832, http://eedok.voidofmind.com/linux/chooser.html
[03:20] <othernoob> cafuego_: is that what bug reports are there for these days?
[03:20] <lgc> cafuego, are you talking bugzilla?
[03:20] <cafuego_> bob832: Next month, when you can upgrade to breezy, you'll find a lot of additions that make life easier.
[03:20] <cafuego_> lgc: yep
[03:21] <shawnz> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2599 << Any idea what is going wrong there?
[03:21] <othernoob> cafuego_: i'm sure people will appreciate bug reports on how people are too dumb to use something....
[03:21] <cafuego_> othernoob: Bugs can have a 'wishlist' status. If a developer isn't told what the user wants from their software, it will probably never get done, eh?
[03:21] <nixiac> bob832: Most of lus who aren't programmers, and prolly a few of them too, did what you are doing... but, with 387 Different Open Source distros monitored by Distrowatch.com, I found that it wasthree years before I got HERE, to ubuntu.
[03:22] <othernoob> cafuego_: that's what feedback is for, not bugreports..
[03:22] <cafuego_> othernoob: There is a difference between users being too dumb and software being too convoluted.
[03:22] <sagarp> when i use GDM, my scrollwheel/sidebuttons get confused...but when i do startx, the ywork fine...i tried with zaxismapping set to "4 5" and also with "6 7" and in GDM, they both dont work right
[03:22] <cafuego_> othernoob: No, that's what wishlist bugs are for.
[03:22] <bob832> hyperactivecrond:  went through the chooser, and ubtuntu came up first  lol
[03:22] <locomorto> shawnz: its looks like your using the Qt4 not Qt3 headers
[03:22] <crimsun> thread, sounds like you've been bitten by http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15182
[03:22] <donsmith> quick question
[03:22] <Earthen> cafuego, any more idea's
[03:22] <hyperactivecrond> bob832, it always does scroll down
[03:22] <lgc> cevizoglu, I haven't used my Win-doze that much. I only use it to watch the MediaPlayer...:) (On Linux I haven't been able. The Totem does't seem to work with anything)..
[03:22] <haja> After installing msttcorefonts, how can I add my own fonts? Do I just put them in /usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts?
[03:22] <bob832> oh
[03:22] <othernoob> cafuego_: either way, quite a way to tell a non-linux user what to do when he encounters problems..
[03:23] <cafuego_> Earthen: Nothing showed? Is there a cd or dvd in your drive?
[03:23] <donsmith> when I'm trying to update with synaptic it freezes on configuring packages, I think it's stuck on the x packages
[03:23] <bob832> ubtuntu is the second distro i've tried from the linux world
[03:23] <linner> locomorto:  yeah, I'm sorry I'm back... had a phone call
[03:23] <shawnz> locomorto, so how do I get it to work right is the question? =p
[03:23] <Earthen> cafuego_, no no cd's or dvd's
[03:23] <locomorto> cafuego_: sudo fdisk -l?
[03:23] <cevizoglu> lgc: you have to install a multitude of codecs until it works  :(
[03:23] <pschulz01> Greetings.. can anyone explain to me the best way of using a new version 'autoconf and friends under Ubuntu?
[03:23] <cafuego_> othernoob: No, that's not what it is about. The user can be helped here, but they can ALSO be told that if they'd like the software to work differnetly, they should tell the developer.
[03:23] <locomorto> shawnz: get rid of the Qt4-dev files and ensure you have the Qt3-devs
[03:23] <shawnz> ok
[03:23] <haja> After installing msttcorefonts, how can I add my own fonts? Do I just put them in /usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts?
[03:24] <malik> mh. i need gthread-2.0. cant find the corresponding package. any hints?
[03:24] <lgc> cevizoglu, isn't there an easier way?
[03:24] <cafuego_> haja: mkdir ~/.fonts; the copy the .ttf files to there.
[03:24] <linner> lgc:  I understand about the freezing... it took a solid 7 days for me to get ubuntu on my laptop.... and really, I was working like 16 hours a day on it... so you have to be determined and realize the FIXES ARE OUT THERE... so keep pluggin' away if you really want it.
[03:24] <Earthen> cafuego_, Xorg is going up and down from about 15% - 30% that about it
[03:24] <TedytuF> cada canal que abre, ta abrindo uma nova janela como conserto isso??
[03:24] <linner> cafuego:  i'm sure you suspected this... but my time is still off :(
[03:24] <cafuego_> haja: and run "xset fp rehash: to make the fonts available.
[03:24] <thread> crimsun: nice! ... he explains a solution, I'm gonna follow it right now and let you know how it goes
[03:24] <cafuego_> linner: Did you do the crontab thing?
[03:24] <The_Vox> haja: stick them in ~/.fonts and it'll work for that one user.
[03:24] <cevizoglu> lgc: it's not too hard, just a few searches and apt-gets
[03:24] <epiloc> crimsun: TFTP error - file not found
[03:24] <linner> cafuego:  crontab???
[03:25] <pschulz01> I'm looking am looking at writing some software and 'automake' is at version 1.4-p6. There is a version 1.9 available.
[03:25] <crimsun> epiloc, that means you didn't configure the pxe files correctly
[03:25] <donsmith> when I'm trying to update breezy with synaptic it freezes on configuring packages, I think it's stuck on the x packages
[03:25] <TedytuF> cada canal que abre, ta abrindo uma nova janela como conserto isso??
[03:25] <Earthen> cafuego_ is there a way to make it update faster
[03:25] <lgc> linner, I love Linux already.  The only other use for Win-doze I had is to write letters with Word (and that was before Open Office).
[03:25] <cafuego_> linner: Ok, remove ntp-simple. We'll add a call to 'ntpdate' in cron, so it runs every 30 minutes.
[03:25] <crimsun> pschulz01, so aptitude install automake1.9
[03:25] <cevizoglu> lgc, mplayer works better for avi's though IMO
[03:25] <os2mac> WHOOT wlann working
[03:25] <hyperactivecrond> TedytuF, /join #ubuntu-es
[03:25] <pschulz01> OK.. done that..
[03:25] <linner> cafuego:  oh thank you!
[03:25] <cafuego_> Earthen: top can only do once a second, afaik.
[03:25] <locomorto> cevizoglu: vlc pwns mplayer
[03:25] <linner> lgc:  I'm so happy to hear that!
[03:25] <The_Vox> hyperactivecrond: that's not spanish, it's portuguese, I think :)
[03:25] <jrattner1> Why isnt Banshee available in hoary
[03:26] <os2mac> so is there a way to save my config in Ubuntu like in Knoppix.... to a thumb drive
[03:26] <cafuego_> linner: After you remove ntp-simple, run 'sudo crontab -e' - that will open up root's crontab file.
[03:26] <haja> thanks
[03:26] <linner> lgc:  I'm already installing Breezy on 4 other computers this week... It's an easy sell!
[03:26] <locomorto> lgc: have you tried openoffice 2?
[03:26] <nomasteryoda> linner, sweet
[03:26] <lgc> linner, I come from the pre-linux era.
[03:26] <locomorto> lgc: I find its really much much better then 1
[03:26] <hyperactivecrond> TedytuF, hablas inglais?
[03:26] <Earthen> cafuego_ ok dam what is doing it then, making my computer pause every few seconds even when i'm typing it stops
[03:26] <linner> cafuego:  forgive me... I don't know how to remove ntp-simple
[03:26] <linner> nomasteryoda:  :)  that's what I thought :)
[03:26] <cevizoglu> locomorto, vlc won't install on my ubuntu breezy ppc....
[03:26] <linner> lgc:  you do?
[03:26] <cafuego_> Earthen: I don't know.
[03:26] <lgc> locomorto, I haven't is the apt update available?
[03:26] <linner> lgc:  very, VERY cool :)
[03:27] <epiloc> crimsun: I configured them exactly how the wiki told me to
[03:27] <nomasteryoda> linner, i have breezy on 4 systems too
[03:27] <nomasteryoda> for me that is
[03:27] <cafuego_> linner: 'sudo apt-get remove --purge ntp-simple'  (or use synaptic)
[03:27] <linner> nomasteryoda:  these are for other people
[03:27] <linner> cafuego:  ok
[03:27] <nomasteryoda> and have helped get friends up with it too
[03:27] <pschulz01> crimsun: I now need to set some environment variables for 'autoreconf', but I still get erros with aclocal macros.
[03:27] <Earthen> cafuego_ this only happend after i boot into windows XP
[03:27] <othernoob> does anyone know of a mpc plugin for amarok?
[03:27] <os2mac> anyone....
[03:27] <cafuego_> Earthen: Is there anything in 'dmesg' ?
[03:27] <nomasteryoda> one has brand new laptop with the snd-isa-intel sound driver issue... halts on booting
[03:27] <os2mac> saving config? like on Knoppix?
[03:27] <crimsun> epiloc, you can't follow the wiki _exactly_
[03:27] <linner> cafuego:  ok it's done
[03:27] <os2mac> on the Ubuntu Live
[03:27] <crimsun> epiloc, a lot of things have changed
[03:28] <cafuego_> linner: Right, now 'sudo crontab -e'
[03:28] <linner> ok
[03:28] <crimsun> epiloc, that's why I said the basics on that wiki page are helpful, not the wiki page verbatim
[03:28] <epiloc> crimsun: oh, well what needs to change?  im so close...
[03:28] <linner> cafuego:  it's an empty file
[03:28] <bob832> got another question:  trying to mount a ntfs partition and when i did sudo mkdir /media/windows , i got this error:  sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Sep 27 12:44:33 2005
[03:28] <bob832>      i recently changed the time in the clock, could that have something to do with it/
[03:28] <locomorto> lgc: apt update?
[03:28] <cafuego_> linner: And type the following, minus the quotes: "*/30 * * * * /usr/sbin/ntpdate pool.ntp.org"
[03:28] <Jack_B> how should i go about converting wma's to mp3 on ubuntu ?
[03:28] <DonL> A simple apt-cache unmet has just shown me the pages of problems from my attempted Breezy update.
[03:28] <nomasteryoda> if developers could put the new alsa drivers or a workaround , many more people would be able to  use Ubuntu ..
[03:28] <Earthen> cafuego_ when i run that it says failed, port 3 disabled
[03:28] <linner> cafuego:  inside the empty file?
[03:28] <locomorto> lgc: It wont come in if your on hoary by just apt-get upgrade
[03:28] <lgc> locomorto, I mean an update through apt-get install.
[03:29] <crimsun> nomasteryoda, hmm?
[03:29] <cafuego_> linner: yep.
[03:29] <linner> cafuego:  done
[03:29] <nomasteryoda> crimsun, there is a bug report on the site
[03:29] <locomorto> lgc: theres some in the hoary repos, but there very old
[03:29] <crimsun> nomasteryoda, we _can't_ just shove in newer ALSA drivers. I've been banging my head against it for weeks.
[03:29] <Jack_B> hey guys, how should i go about converting wma to mp3 on hoary?
[03:29] <nomasteryoda> lol
[03:29] <nomasteryoda> yea
[03:29] <nomasteryoda> i know
[03:29] <linner> cafuego:  may i change the 30 minutes to 5 minutes?  It seems to get VERY off after 30 minutes
[03:29] <os2mac> linner did you get it working?
[03:29] <cafuego_> linner: That will make the crond aemin run the ntpdate command every  x:00 and x:30 minutes.
[03:30] <cafuego_> linner: See how it runs first, then maybe try 15 or 10.
[03:30] <linner> cafuego:  ok
[03:30] <linner> cafuego:  will do
[03:30] <linner> os2mac:  which one?
[03:30] <linner> :)
[03:30] <crimsun> nomasteryoda, I have to forwardport a change applied against 1.0.9b against our kernel, which is 1.0.9+cvs
[03:30] <os2mac> wlan
[03:30] <Earthen> cafuego_, then i get a hole lot of hub 5-4:1.0: connect-debounce failed, port 3 disabled
[03:30] <lgc> locomorto, it's about time OOo V2 is available through apt-get!
[03:30] <cafuego_> linner: Now run 'sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org' by hand.
[03:30] <linner> ok
[03:30] <nomasteryoda> oh... ic
[03:30] <cafuego_> Earthen: Any weird usb devices plugged in?
[03:30] <epiloc> crimsun: I understand... if you were starting off at that wiki, what would you do diferently?
[03:30] <linner> cafuego:  done
[03:31] <cafuego_> linner: Cross yer fingers and wait an hour ;-)
[03:31] <packman_e> hey anyone using uvuntu 5.10
[03:31] <linner> cafuego:  I spoke with Nalioth.  May I PM you?
[03:31] <linner> cafuego:  ok :)
[03:31] <linner> cafuego:  will do
[03:31] <csthepoet> hey room
[03:31] <cafuego_> linner: Yeah ok.
[03:31] <locomorto> lgc: Hoary is frozen
[03:31] <os2mac> Linner did you get your wlan working?
[03:31] <locomorto> lgc: eg: no updates are made so it doesn't get instable
[03:31] <lgc> locomorto, what do you mean? No bugfixes?
[03:31] <locomorto> unstable*
[03:31] <Earthen> cafuego_ I have a few USB things pluged in yes, mouse,joystick,Palm,sidewinder,and belcon speed pad
[03:32] <locomorto> only security fixes generally
[03:32] <thread> crimsun: that guy's solution worked like a charm. Thank you so much for finding that. I did a lot of surfing around the forums and such but didn't manage to fall upon that page. THANKS!
[03:32] <crimsun> thread, np
[03:32] <locomorto> bugfixes can create more bugs
[03:32] <Earthen> cafuego_ none of witch gave me problems before
[03:32] <megamanx2005> what new features is breezy badger going to have
[03:32] <crimsun> epiloc, which set of images are you using?
[03:32] <cafuego_> Earthen: yeah, it would seem odd that they could slow down the machine.
[03:32] <linner> os2mac:  I haven't gotten that far yet
[03:32] <locomorto> There is a guide on the forum how to get newer version of OO2
[03:32] <cafuego_> Earthen: Did you install updates (new kernel?) before booting windows?
[03:33] <os2mac> I got mine working just now ( I am on it right now) I may have a couple of tips....
[03:33] <linner> os2mac:  I didn't want to bombard the channel with too many of my problems since there are so may people in here who need help too.  Immediately, I needed to get my system clock running as nearly everything I do is time dependant.
[03:34] <Earthen> cafuego_ mmmm I'm not sure but i think that i may have did an update last night but i booted intolinux earler today and no problems
[03:34] <linner> os2mac:  oh dude.. do share ;)
[03:34] <DonL> crimsun, you've helped me lots of times before. My attempted upgrade to Breezy from Hoary was a disaster. Fortunately I have a spare drive and I installed Warty on it for now. Should I wait and every now and then apt-get update, and install, or wait for the real thing and just install?
[03:35] <os2mac> first of all you are using a broadcom wlan card right?
[03:35] <linner> os2mac:  absolutely
[03:35] <os2mac> what .inf file?
[03:35] <linner> let me go check
[03:35] <os2mac> name and size please
[03:35] <linner> hold on a sec os2mac
[03:35] <linner> os2mac:  size of what?
[03:35] <os2mac> the .inf file
[03:35] <linner> os2mac:  ok
[03:36] <linner> os2mac:  hold on just a sec
[03:36] <os2mac> the one I am using is bcmwl5.inf
[03:36] <crimsun> DonL, hmm? You installed Warty?
[03:36] <os2mac> and it's 17742
[03:36] <linner> os2mac:  I'm using bcmwl5.inf
[03:36] <DonL> crimsun, on another spare drive. Actually, I forgot how simple and good it works
[03:36] <linner> os2mac:  and it's 1.2mb
[03:37] <linner> os2mac:  big difference
[03:37] <DonL> crimsun, it's the only actual ubuntu cd I have
[03:37] <Earthen> cafuego_ I've seemed to have found it, I think it was 3ddesktop I killed it and it sems fine now, maybe something to do with my ATI drivers maybe
[03:37] <linner> os2mac:  where did you get your driver?
[03:37] <os2mac> what is the data on the file?
[03:37] <crimsun> DonL, you can dist-upgrade from Warty to Hoary at least
[03:37] <crimsun> DonL, how was the dist-upgrade from Hoary to Breezy a disaster?
[03:37] <DonL> crimsun, that's what I did before.
[03:38] <DonL> crimsun, pages of unmet dependencies
[03:38] <os2mac> I did a search on my harddrive for it. I am running the LIVE version of Ubuntu
[03:38] <DonL> No X
[03:38] <linner> os2mac:  you're going to have to be specific... i don't know how to obtain the data... do i justopen it with texteditor?
[03:38] <linner> os2mac:  ok.... that might make a difference
[03:38] <DonL> crimsun, I can see all my files but have no gui
[03:38] <linner> os2mac:  i have it INSTALLED
[03:39] <os2mac> what directory was it in?
[03:39] <tonkar> hi all! have you any idea why after an upgrade my xserver is desconfigured?
[03:39] <epiloc> tftpd file not found....
[03:39] <epiloc> im stuck
[03:39] <epiloc> :(
[03:39] <DonL> crimsun, seems the biggest culprit is libfooc0depending on libmp4v2-0, not installed
[03:40] <tonkar> and how to solve this problem? "no screen found" (an nvidia)
[03:40] <linner> os2mac:  in my home
[03:40] <os2mac> Linner what I am looking for is the file info.
[03:40] <Earthen> cafuego_ thanks for you help good night
[03:40] <os2mac> the filesize and date of the bcmwl5.inf file that you loaded into ndiskwrapper.
[03:40] <linner> os2mac: ok
[03:40] <tonkar> maybe an dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86?
[03:41] <os2mac> you should be able to get that by going to the directory that the file is located in and doing ls -al
[03:41] <linner> ok
[03:41] <linner> os2mac:  let me get terminal up
[03:42] <os2mac> I knew what the file name was when I attached it the first time... just didn't know which to pick... I have serveral versions of that file on my harddrive.
[03:42] <crimsun> DonL, X Window System doesn't work?
[03:42] <linner> os2mac:  this is what terminal says:  -rw-r--r--  1 kelley kelley 1206158 2004-02-07 15:56 /home/kelley/Downloads/bcmwl5.inf
[03:43] <os2mac> I just chose one after another until it worked.
[03:43] <DonL> crimsun, maybe the suggested repositories I copied weren't complete. Maybe I'm missing something. Do you know of another set of repositories? No. I can't get X to work
[03:43] <tonkar> i too
[03:43] <epiloc> can I set up a dhcp server and tftp server to handle pxe boot requests... can i give the machine a windows boot image?
[03:43] <linner> os2mac:  see i don't know that this doesn't work...
[03:43] <tonkar> me too :P
[03:43] <os2mac> that is a much newer file than mine...
[03:43] <DonL> crimsun, xinit fails
[03:43] <linner> os2mac:  it's a beta file
[03:43] <tonkar> that after an update
[03:43] <os2mac> I am using an older version of the file.
[03:43] <linner> os2mac:  tell me where to get what you have?
[03:44] <os2mac> -r--------  1 root root   17742 2003-06-13 21:37 bcmwl5.inf
[03:44] <linner> os2mac:  i see
[03:44] <linner> os2mac:  so where can i down load it?
[03:44] <crimsun> DonL, you shouldn't have to add any external repositories. What were you using that required external repos?
[03:44] <os2mac> this is a compaq correct?
[03:44] <linner> os2mac:  yes
[03:44] <os2mac> are you running the live version?
[03:45] <linner> no... it's installed
[03:45] <os2mac> of Ubuntu
[03:45] <os2mac> ahhh
[03:45] <linner> ubuntu yes
[03:45] <os2mac> lemme see if I can find a spot on the internet to get that file
[03:45] <linner> ok thank you so much
[03:45] <tonkar> wich is the command to reconfigure my xserver?
[03:46] <Rumrunner> does ubuntu support wpa2?
[03:46] <phlaegel> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:46] <DonL> crimsun, instead of changing "hoary" to "breezy" I copied a suggested repository and dumped my old one. I've done that before without problems
[03:46] <hyperactivecrond> how do you get rid of ubuntu-desktop and everything it provided when you install it?
[03:46] <hyperactivecrond> installed~
[03:46] <tonkar> thanks ;)
[03:48] <Rumrunner> does ubuntu support wpa2?
[03:48] <os2mac> http://nicolas.bonifas.free.fr/inspiron/bcmwl5.inf
[03:48] <os2mac> that is the same file size....
[03:48] <os2mac> try that one.
[03:49] <SuperLag> Any of you guys had issues just doing s/hoary/breezy in sources.list and upgrading that way?
[03:49] <dooglus> SuperLag: I did
[03:49] <DonL> SuperLag, perhaps that works, my way (for me) didn't
[03:50] <os2mac> Is there anyway in Ubuntu Live to save the settings to a thumb drive for bootup later
[03:50] <dooglus> SuperLag: something about unterminated `s' command
[03:51] <atty> hi. i did open synaptic package manager and search for sun-j2re1.5
[03:51] <jmg> hey all
[03:51] <jmg> having a prob with lilo+devmapper
[03:51] <jmg> Ubuntu Wiki
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[03:51] <atty> during i mark it inform not authenticated? should i proceed or need to do anything?
[03:51] <DonL> crimsun, I've got a functioning Warty system happening now which will serve me well for a few weeks. Maybe I'll just wait and see if things fix themselves.
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[03:52] <_jason> atty: whats the problem?
[03:52] <DonL> crimsun, yes. I know that now. That's what I've been sticking to for many months. There were some other things hanging around in my system before I knew that though
[03:52] <jmg> Title Search: "lilo"
[03:52] <atty> hi. i did open synaptic package manager and search for sun-j2re1.5
[03:53] <atty> during i mark it inform not authenticated? should i proceed or need to do anything?
[03:53] <atty> should i proceed?
[03:53] <crimsun> jmg, please don't flood
[03:53] <moparfan90> hello im trying to play thig game paintball an the mouse is all messed up. right away the mouse looks stright up and won   move down and its not inverte or anything????
[03:53] <_jason> atty: what repos are you using?
[03:53] <_jason> atty: it just means its not the official ubuntu repo
[03:53] <atty> i'm not sure... but i did follow ur instruction yesterday
[03:53] <jmg> thanks...
[03:53] <jmg> sorry about that breif disruption ladies and gentlemen
[03:53] <StR_breezy_kde35> Hi all
[03:53] <atty> so can i proceed _jason?
[03:54] <jmg> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2600
[03:54] <_jason> atty: yes, I am using that package right now
[03:54] <atty> ok
[03:54] <atty> i will do it now
[03:54] <atty> be right back
[03:54] <linner> os2mac:  ok i'm back... let me scroll up
[03:54] <epiloc> does anyone know how I can install windows xp on a machine via network from my ubuntu machine?
[03:55] <atty> how can we know either we are using Breezy or Hoary?
[03:55] <atty> what the different between Breezy & Hoary?
[03:56] <benplaut> !breezy
[03:56] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[03:56] <benplaut> bleh
[03:56] <linner> os2mac:  ok.... i have it saved now
[03:56] <spindley> epiloc, i don't think you can do a network install with windows
[03:56] <benplaut> !bad bot
[03:56] <ubotu> bad benplaut!
[03:56] <DonL> crimsun, the suggested repos I got were of Ubuntu's site, so I trust them. Maybe my old crap in here is upsetting some of the new stuff. I may use the time between now and the official release to get as much important stuff off my system as possible and then do a total re-install of Breezy.
[03:56] <jsubl2> atty: cat /etc/lsb-release
[03:56] <Sionide> atty
[03:56] <Sionide> Use the command:
[03:56] <Sionide> $cat /etc/issue
[03:57] <os2mac> also when you do the ndiswrapper -i and the modprob ndiswrapper do it as root.
[03:57] <atty> ok. i'm reading ubotu web given
[03:57] <linner> os2mac:  ok... what's the difference between sudo and su?
[03:58] <os2mac> good question ... I have never used sudo.... I am an old geek....
[03:58] <os2mac> I have always used su.
[03:58] <linner> os2mac:  ahhh :)
[03:58] <_jason> what does su do :o
[03:58] <linner> os2mac:  okey dokey ... I'll do what you say... :)
[03:58] <os2mac> switch user.
[03:58] <linner> _jason:  it gives you access to the root
[03:59] <_jason> oh I see
[03:59] <atty> still i dont understand. is it breezy more good that hoary?
[03:59] <_jason> linner: so just like root terminal?
[03:59] <os2mac> yes similiar
[03:59] <DonL> but then it reverts in case you forget to
[03:59] <linner> _jason:  I believe so
[03:59] <Hobbsee> atty: it's newer, but it's still in beta
[03:59] <spindley> i think sudo allows you maintain as root without actually setting a root password
[03:59] <linner> _jason:  it's a safety measure - what DonL said
[03:59] <misfit_toy> yay, latest update on breezy fixes beagle, this is cool stuff.
[03:59] <spindley> sort of..
[03:59] <atty> beta?? i think i'll stick to hoary
[03:59] <atty> :))
[04:00] <DonL> yes, linner, I like it for that
[04:00] <moparfan90> i am playing digital paintball and my mouse is messed up anyone know how i can ficx it??
[04:00] <linner> DonL:  me too :)
[04:00] <Hobbsee> atty: good idea - the best bet is to reinstall...i screwed my system yesterday with it
[04:00] <cafuego_> misfit_toy: When? my beagle is segfaulting all over the shop.
[04:00] <os2mac> spindley he is using an installed version.
[04:00] <atty> lol
[04:00] <spindley> oh
[04:00] <misfit_toy> cafuego, as of about an hour ago
[04:00] <cafuego_> Or dop i need to delete indexen?
[04:00] <os2mac> so he probably needs to set a root pwd
[04:00] <atty> i'm satisfied with ubuntu
[04:00] <linner> os2mac:  I'm a she... :)
[04:00] <atty> compare to fedora and suse
[04:00] <_jason> linner: so su uses the root password and won't work unless you set one?
[04:00] <atty> easy
[04:00] <atty> simple
[04:00] <os2mac> sorry....
[04:00] <os2mac> :(
[04:00] <Hobbsee> yay...another she!
[04:00] <linner> os2mac:  it's ok.. i get it all the time
[04:01] <Hobbsee> linner: yes, i'm not surprised
[04:01] <os2mac> my humble apologies....
[04:01] <os2mac> it was wrong for me to assume.
[04:01] <spindley> _jason, su means 'switch user'
[04:01] <linner> Hobbsee:  why do you say that?
[04:01] <linner> spindley:  i thought it meant "super user"
[04:01] <Hobbsee> linner: well there seem to be very few women on there, so i assume all the women get that
[04:01] <_jason> spindley:  su just prompts me for a password, which I am assuming is the root one since mine doesn't work like with sudo
[04:01] <linner> Hobbsee:  ahhh I see :)
[04:01] <Hobbsee> linner: i didnt mean that you sound male or anything :P
[04:01] <Hobbsee> linner: really i didnt lol
[04:01] <os2mac> nor did I...
[04:02] <spindley> linner, nah you can 'su <another_user>
[04:02] <spindley> '
[04:02] <linner> Hobbsee:  no, I didn't take it that way... just was curious :)
[04:02] <Hobbsee> although we dont really have female usernames
[04:02] <linner> spindley:  ahhh
[04:02] <_jason> spindley:  oh
[04:02] <spindley> 'su -' will switch to root
[04:02] <DonL> Well, it's been a pleasure. Must go for now. Thanks for all the help!
[04:02] <spindley> with the pass of course :)
[04:02] <linner> Hobbsee:  neither do i.. and i did that on purpose to be taken seriously :)
[04:02] <Hobbsee> linner: it's still early in the morning - not enough coke had yet
[04:02] <linner> Hobbsee:  where are you?
[04:02] <Mrono> hi
[04:02] <Hobbsee> linner: true, Australia
[04:03] <linner> Hobbsee:  oh okay :)
[04:03] <os2mac> how's it going Linner?
[04:03] <Mrono> anyone here who could help me with an install problem for 5.04
[04:03] <linner> os2mac:  i haven't done it yet... have a few PMs to attend to
[04:03] <linner> os2mac:  give me like 5 minutes.... is that ok?
[04:03] <os2mac> yeah no worries.. you want me to hang out and wait?
[04:03] <Mrono> ello?
[04:03] <misfit_toy> cafuego, now if only luminocity would be built quickly into breezy final I would shit a brick right here and now.
[04:04] <Hobbsee> hey Mrono - what's your question
[04:04] <linner> os2mac:  oh I certainly don't want to monopolize your time
[04:04] <Hobbsee> then we'll see if anyone can answer it
[04:04] <linner> os2mac:  if you can that would be awesome
[04:04] <Mrono> 1. it wont install the rest of the cd
[04:04] <childe> Hello.
[04:04] <Mrono> 2 it gets to the detecting cd rom and sits at 50%
[04:04] <os2mac> no worries.. I am happy to have it working on my own distro... .like I said I tried to mess with it for several hours last night and couldn't get it to work correctly...
[04:04] <childe> Does anybody know when can we get the latest version of Groff in Ubuntu?
[04:05] <os2mac> I am just happy to pass on the lessons learned.
[04:05] <os2mac> call it paying the debt.... you gave me the missing piece....
[04:05] <misfit_toy> oh, quick question, since I"m on 2.6.12-8-386
[04:05] <misfit_toy> , why don't they have the linux-source for this? only the generic 2.6.12 which won't let nvidia compile!?
[04:06] <Mrono> any ideas
[04:06] <linner> os2mac:  ok.... i'm done now with the PMs
[04:06] <Mrono> it did this to me on another machine
[04:06] <moparfan90> bye everyone
[04:06] <os2mac> ok
[04:06] <misfit_toy> damn cats
[04:07] <linner> os2mac:  so should i follow the same directions minus the step where it points to my jump drive?
[04:08] <os2mac> I did the instructions from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper but ran them as root.
[04:08] <os2mac> rather than sudo root
[04:08] <linner> os2mac:  by directions i mean these : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[04:08] <Mrono> anyone have any ideas
[04:08] <linner> os2mac:  ok
[04:08] <linner> os2mac:  right on
[04:08] <linner> os2mac:  i'll try it now
[04:09] <Hobbsee> Mrono: nope, unless the cd's not spinning quickly enough
[04:09] <os2mac> also I was actually in the directory where the file was located (not that it should make any difference.
[04:09] <Mrono> it installed stuf before it stopped at the cd
[04:09] <Mrono> and it'll run the live just fine
[04:09] <linner> os2mac:  right got that
[04:10] <gpd> is there a problem with the nvidia kernel module for breezy with 2.6.12-9?
[04:10] <cafuego_> gpd: Not as of a few minutes ago on AMD64. Howso?
[04:10] <misfit_toy> if anyone wants to turn an old webcam into a vid capture device for any reason...http://freshmeat.net/projects/motion/ works great
[04:10] <gpd> mine does not seem to recognize4 my card
[04:10] <Mrono> why doesnt the live cd mount existing file systems
[04:10] <spindley> there's a problem with that stupid nvidia kernel with every kernel with every distro
[04:10] <cafuego_> gpd: What card?
[04:11] <gpd> cafuego_: GeForce 6800
[04:11] <gpd> worked fine under hoary
[04:11] <cafuego_> gpd: Hmm, odd. No, not a clue.
[04:11] <RexKwonDo> I'm using the 6800 and mine works fine
[04:11] <Mrono> well
[04:11] <Mrono> i gtg
[04:11] <Mrono> i'll see you guys later
[04:12] <gpd> do you keep the module in /lib/modules/xxx/volitile?
[04:12] <linner> os2mac:  it says i have to remove the first file
[04:12] <linner> os2mac:  how do i do that?
[04:12] <os2mac> hold on a sec
[04:12] <linner> os2mac:  ok
[04:12] <bob2> I'd really really not mess in the volatile dir
[04:12] <bob2> at all, ever
[04:12] <gpd> well the nvidia module is installed in there by apt
[04:12] <brownie17> bob2, good on you
[04:12] <os2mac> ndiswrapper -e bcmwl5.inf
[04:12] <brownie17> can someone tell me what is the name of a good vcd creation software?
[04:12] <linner> os2mac:  thank you
[04:13] <os2mac> no worries..
[04:13] <nomed> hi all
[04:13] <jmg> device-mapper ioctl cmd 12 failed: No such device or address
[04:13] <os2mac> for the record... if you run ndiswrapper with no switches it will tell you all that..
[04:13] <rejden> why there is difference on shipit.ubuntu.com and shipit.ubuntulinux.org?
[04:13] <nomed> are there the cloop sources in ubuntu?
[04:13] <bob2> jmg: er
[04:13] <bob2> jmg: pick one channel
[04:13] <os2mac> BRB
[04:14] <RexKwonDo> I have had some crashing with FireFox, so I'm testing out Epiphany.  Is there a way to have a static "search" bubble on the toolbars?
[04:14] <jmg> [pid 23930]  ioctl(4, DM_TABLE_STATUS, 0x807d378) = -1 ENXIO (No such device or address)
[04:14] <linner> os2mac:  ok.... i have another question for you when you return
[04:14] <brownie17> !logs
[04:14] <ubotu> Channel Logs are at: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/
[04:15] <nomed> i see cloop-utils .. but i don't see cloop-src .. what's wrong?
[04:15] <os2mac> back
[04:15] <bob2> rejden: that appears to be a bug
[04:16] <os2mac> mmm Earl Grey....
[04:16] <ocavid> i cannot play mp3 on ubuntu, what can i do?
[04:16] <linner> os2mac:  i love tea
[04:16] <cafuego_> !restrictedformats
[04:16] <bob2> ocavid: read the FAQ
[04:16] <ubotu> I guess restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[04:16] <lucky> hi.  I'm trying to install azureus. I follow the instructions on the wiki thing, but it gives me: E: Couldn't find package azureus
[04:16] <bob2> ocavid: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictFormats
[04:16] <reter> in ubuntu, the cd failed to upload all the database files. how can i do it manually?
[04:16] <linner> os2mac:  ok... so can you join #ubuntu-offtopic so i can past what it's tell me?
[04:17] <os2mac> I switch back and forth.. between coffee and tea... right now it's Earl Grey.
[04:17] <os2mac> yes hang on.
[04:17] <os2mac> #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:17] <bob2> rejden: what does "failed to upload all the database" files mean?
[04:17] <rejden> bob2, cos i canceled my order cos i dunno if it's for 5.10 or 5.04
[04:17] <rejden> bob2, huh
[04:18] <reter> bob2: well the installation cd said "failed installation"
[04:18] <bob2> bah
[04:18] <rejden> bob2, oh :)
[04:18] <reter> bob2: the database files didnt go through and its not on machine. i have no gnome
[04:18] <reter> is there a way i can get all of it manually without the cd
[04:19] <bob2> reter: sounds like the CD is broken
[04:19] <reter> it installed the system
[04:19] <reter> ubuntu is running..i just have no desktop/gnome
[04:19] <jknife> did you do network?
[04:20] <bob2> it's impossible to help without more details
[04:20] <reter> what mode do you want?
[04:20] <reter> more
[04:20] <reter> i don't have gnome
[04:20] <reter> i want gnome and all the files that come with it
[04:20] <jknife> why i upgraded to breezy.. X had a few broken links i fixed them.. then my keyboard every time i pressed a key changed res.(cept the num pad)
[04:20] <ocavid> where i could find k3b-mp3 package?
[04:21] <bob2> "wanting gnome" is not a description of a problem
[04:21] <jknife> reter, apt-get update && apt-get install gnome gdm
[04:21] <bob2> it's impossible to tell if the problem is that X is misconfigured or if your CD was corrupt
[04:21] <brownie17> bob2, i checked the logs, i hadn't said a single thing for approx 2 hours when seveas banned me. could it have been an accident?
[04:22] <foo-bar-> anyone have any idea what might cause my installation of ubuntu to slow down drastically at ~6% complete (it seems like it hangs, but it does install packages every few minutes).  From 0% to 6% packages seem to be installed much faster
[04:22] <bob2> brownie17: I dunno, you'd have to ask Seveas
[04:22] <atty> _jason. after finish update java. should i restart my laptop?
[04:22] <gpd> it seems that there is a version conflict between nvidia kernel module 7174 and driver 7xxx
[04:22] <brownie17> bob2, i figured it out, i was stuffing artound with ubotu in another channel, and i forgot to erase what i put in there. but i didn't destroy anything worth being in there
[04:22] <brownie17> bob2, sorry
[04:23] <jknife> why i upgraded to breezy.. X had a few broken links i fixed them.. then my keyboard every time i pressed a key changed res.(cept the num pad)
[04:23] <ocavid> bob2: where i could find k3b-mp3 package?
[04:23] <packman_e> !faq
[04:23] <ubotu> it has been said that faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/
[04:23] <jknife> im using 5.04 now
[04:24] <packman_e> hello all
[04:24] <epiloc> im about to give up
[04:24] <epiloc> on this network boot install
[04:25] <jknife> epiloc, do cd install then apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:25] <Phily> hello all I need some help, I will to clean up deamons and services at startup I don't need cups lp and others how do I do this?
[04:25] <cafuego_> gpd: 7174 is a bit old, too.
[04:25] <Phily> Also I want to know how far I can go
[04:25] <Quinthius> Phily: check out rcconf
[04:25] <Phily> which process do kill
[04:25] <epiloc> jknife: i am trying to install ANY OS on my diskless laptop vai network
[04:25] <oblib> Question: when I boot up, Ubuntu does not mount my serial ata drive (sda1). I can mount it just fine once I'm in Ubuntu. Anyone know why?
[04:26] <Phily> jknife: diskless you mean network boot
[04:26] <Quinthius> oblib: is it set to "noauto" in /etc/fstab?
[04:26] <jknife> Phily, ???
[04:26] <oblib> no: /dev/sda1       /win/f          ntfs    nls=utf8,umask=0222 0       0
[04:26] <butcherbird> epiloc, no floppy, no cdrom, no usb?
[04:26] <epiloc> no nothing!
[04:26] <epiloc> its sooo bad
[04:26] <jknife> your fed
[04:27] <jknife> pull the hd.. install it on one pc and move it back
[04:27] <epiloc> ive never taken a hd out of a lappy
[04:27] <epiloc> dont i need a conversion drive?
[04:27] <epiloc> like 3.5" or something
[04:27] <Quinthius> epiloc: is there any OS on it right now?
[04:27] <epiloc> no
[04:27] <jknife> beats me.. im a desktop person
[04:28] <epiloc> it has pcmcia slots, but they are not picking up the pcmcia external cdrom
[04:28] <gpd> so i had installed the linux-restricted-xxx-nvidia... which was not required... removing fixed the problem
[04:28] <epiloc> i figured, i have to get an OS on there first, to install drivers... THEN the pcmcia will work
[04:28] <jknife> epiloc, is the bios set up correctly?
[04:29] <epiloc> yes, i have tried countless things in the bios
[04:29] <epiloc> 'pcmcia' doesnt appear once in the bios
[04:29] <epiloc> why is that?
[04:29] <oblib> any other ideas quin,
[04:29] <jknife> its gay?
[04:29] <oblib> Quinthius?
[04:29] <Phily> Quinthius: tks for rcconf, but is fetchmail required
[04:29] <ocavid> anyone pls help where i could download k3b-mp3
[04:30] <epiloc> jesus im about to rip my hair out
[04:30] <jknife> ocavid, d/l the source and build it yourself
[04:30] <epiloc> heh
[04:30] <ocavid> jknife ok where it is located?
[04:30] <jknife> and then build a pkg for everyone else
[04:30] <jknife> GOOGLE
[04:31] <jknife> (srry for caps)
[04:31] <Sionide> wow awesome
[04:31] <Sionide> the new add/remove progs in Breezy
[04:31] <Sionide> "I thought Synaptic was simple, but this really takes it to the next level. Want VLC? Click Sound & Video, More programs, and check the box next to VLC. Click Apply. Done."
[04:31] <Sionide> http://www.tectonic.co.za/viewr.php?id=611
[04:31] <ocavid> jknife ok i will try
[04:31] <jknife> or kde main site
[04:32] <Quinthius> oblib: i dont know what else to suggest, sorry :/
[04:33] <jknife> epiloc, i have no clue about your problem
[04:33] <Quinthius> Phily: fetchmail? i dont THINK so, but not sure...  i think it's recommended to leave postfix enabled though
[04:33] <epiloc> jknife: i think the answer lies in netbooting
[04:33] <epiloc> it has pxe enabled network card
[04:34] <jknife> ive never used netboot
[04:34] <Phily> Quinthius: do u know if rsync is used for anything specail
[04:34] <Phily> Quinthius: I don't use it
[04:34] <Knelix> Does anybody know how to take a screenshot in XFCE?
[04:34] <epiloc> i can set up the bios to boot off the network card but i not the cdrom drive :(
[04:35] <jknife> ask in #gentoo (im sure one of the 1000 ppl in there know)
[04:35] <dooglus> oblib: it's kind of cheating, but how about putting a 'mount' command in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh ?
[04:36] <socomm> How would I make it so that I would not need to authenticate with my samba server?
[04:36] <bob2> Knelix: "import" from imagemagick
[04:36] <Phily> Knelix: use scrot command line tool
[04:37] <bob2> epiloc: google "pxe tftp ubuntu" +site:wiki.ubuntu.com
[04:37] <jknife> the default servers are faster for me then the us servers
[04:37] <bob2> socomm: configure them not to use passwords
[04:37] <bob2> socomm: or setup kerberos
[04:37] <dooglus> bob2: what does "+" do in google queries?
[04:37] <bob2> jknife: archive.ubuntu.com and us.archive.ubuntu.com are the same machine in london
[04:37] <bob2> dooglus: logical AND
[04:37] <bob2> dooglus: guess it's not really needed
[04:37] <Phily> Knelix: scrot uses imlib2 very fast!
[04:37] <dooglus> bob2: google defaults to logical AND
[04:37] <skrewdriver> hey guys, trying to compile a driver (first attempt at compiling), can't get make to work. do I need to download any extra packages?
[04:38] <bob2> skrewdriver: when asking questions like that, you need to mention what driver it is, and also paste the error to #flood or the pastebin in the /topic
[04:38] <skrewdriver> error is: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-8-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[04:38] <epiloc> bob2, i have been following the wiki for the past 3 hours
[04:38] <skrewdriver> oops. sorry.
[04:38] <dooglus> bob2: aah...  " If a common word is essential to getting the results you want, you can include it by putting a "+" sign in front of it"
[04:38] <epiloc> bob2, something is not right :(
[04:39] <jknife> bob2, umm i get 30Kb from the having us and ~70/~100 without it
[04:39] <Knelix> bob2, Phily: Where the heck are those?
[04:39] <bob2> skrewdriver: and the driver is?
[04:39] <bob2> dooglus: ah, glad there's some justification for it ;)
[04:39] <Phily> Knelix: apt-get install scrot
[04:39] <bob2> epiloc: and the wiki page you are following is ...
[04:39] <noreen> gud day how should i install my lx-300+ on my ubuntu box? need help
[04:40] <jknife> how come fortune is edited?
[04:40] <bob2> Knelix: install the imagemagick package like you would any other
[04:40] <skrewdriver> bob2: driver is iburst-2.1.1
[04:40] <bob2> jknife: define "edited"
[04:40] <reter> in vi
[04:40] <Phily> Knelix: just type scrot form command line and you get a screenshot from your desktop into the current directory
[04:40] <packman_e> hello people
[04:40] <bob2> skrewdriver: sudo aptitude -y install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential
[04:40] <reter> vi, its suppose to be :wq  to save and leave right?
[04:40] <jknife> -o list is gone
[04:40] <packman_e> what is a good email client to use for ubuntu 5.04 please
[04:40] <epiloc> bob2, http://wiki.koeln.ccc.de/index.php/Ubuntu_PXE_Install
[04:40] <skrewdriver> bob2: thanks mate
[04:41] <jknife> packman_e,  thunderbird
[04:41] <reter> how can you just save in VI
[04:41] <epiloc> this is the biggest nightmare i have ever encountered
[04:41] <jknife> ???
[04:41] <bob2> jknife: if you say so; look at the output of "host us.archive.ubuntu.com and "host archive.ubuntu.com"
[04:41] <jknife> ohh lol
[04:41] <Knelix> Phily: Ah... installing...
[04:41] <bob2> epiloc: ignore that and do what I said
[04:41] <difeta> hey all! I've just installed breezy and none of the icons are showing up in nautilus. Any ideas?
[04:41] <packman_e> how about a news reader?
[04:41] <noreen> gud day how should i install my lx-300+ on my ubuntu box? need help
[04:41] <lastnode> anybody got their wifi working with intel pro 2200BG? im on a thinkpad r50e
[04:42] <jknife> bob2, i get no fortunes found
[04:42] <bob2> noreen: try phrasing your question better
[04:42] <Knelix> bob2: I just want to take a screen shot... sounds like imagemagick is a more complete/sophisticated app... I just wanna do something very simple.
[04:42] <bob2> noreen: e.g., what on earth is a "lx-300+"?
[04:42] <bob2> lastnode: lots of people have that working fine
[04:42] <bob2> Knelix: install it. run "import -root foo.png". all done.
[04:42] <hejux> help me !!! ubuntu 5.10 , i  cannt play *.rmvb *.avi *wmv etc.
[04:42] <Kyral> Is there an easy way to install the Debugging packages for all my packages?
[04:42] <bob2> hejux: a) don't be irritating
[04:42] <reter> ... /etc/apt/sources.list can't open file for writing
[04:42] <bob2> hejux: b) wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:43] <reter> how can i save what i editied here
[04:43] <bob2> reter: you need to run your editor with sudo
[04:43] <bob2> Kyral: no
[04:43] <jknife> well is there any USA mirrors around?
[04:43] <bob2> jknife: wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[04:43] <cfh_dev> Is there somewhere Gnome keeps a list of programs that startup when Gnome starts?
[04:43] <Kyral> bob2: Remind me to do that when I do a clean server install of Breezy
[04:44] <bob2> cfh_dev: system -> preferences -> session
[04:44] <lastnode> bob2, does ubuntu auto detect or should i get the driver?
[04:44] <bob2> lastnode: it includes the driver
[04:44] <delltony> question, i just got a dell maxtor external harddrive and it has ntfs on it. is there a simple way in linux to make another partiton on it that windows AND linux can use?
[04:44] <cfh_dev> bob2, thanks
[04:44] <bob2> delltony: does it have free space?
[04:44] <hejux> thank you bob2 ^_^
[04:44] <delltony> yeah i just got it
[04:45] <delltony> 300gig
[04:45] <bob2> no, I mean, unallocated space
[04:45] <lastnode> bob2, sorry to be a numbnuts, but that means i can just install and do ifup wa0?
[04:45] <cfh_dev> On a default Hoary install, is there a way to remove Evolution without removing ubuntu-desktop?
[04:45] <bob2> or is it one 300GB NTFs partition?
[04:45] <delltony> one ntfs partition as far as i know
[04:45] <bob2> lastnode: that means you can install, then configure it to do whatever you want, yes
[04:45] <bob2> delltony: then you need parted or ntfsresize
[04:45] <delltony> i would assume anyway cause its right out of the box
[04:45] <skrewdriver> bob2: done that, still getting the same error
[04:45] <bob2> cfh_dev: no
[04:45] <bob2> skrewdriver: paste the whole error to #flood
[04:46] <Kyral> cfh_dev, Ubuntu-Desktop is a metapackage that basically does nothing
[04:46] <Kyral> its safe to remove
[04:46] <bob2> no, it's not
[04:46] <dooglus> delltony: you just got this drive, right?  so it's blank?
[04:46] <delltony> ok ill download parted and look at the manpages and come back if i have any questions thanks
[04:46] <bob2> unless you know what it's for
[04:46] <bob2> e.g. you will break upgrades by removing it
[04:46] <Kyral> bob2, Correction, until you Dist-Upgrade
[04:46] <cfh_dev> Kyral, so removing ubuntu-desktop shouldn't affect anything when I want to remove Evolution?
[04:46] <Kyral> yah
[04:46] <delltony> well dooglus yeah i just got it but the thing wanted to format the drive to ntfs for backup and i let it (windows software that is)
[04:46] <Kyral> but reinstall it before you make the jump to Breezy
[04:46] <dooglus> if you don't remove ubuntu-desktop, you can't remove a lot of the other crap that you don't need, can you?
[04:46] <bob2> cfh_dev: why do you want to remove evolution?
[04:47] <skrewdriver> bob2: okay, pasted
[04:47] <delltony> but i want to use it with linux as well since my primary os on my personal laptop is linux
[04:47] <Kyral> bob2, Maybe he doesn't like it?
[04:47] <cfh_dev> bob2, I prefer thunderbird if any local mail client
[04:47] <Kyral> I didn't like it for a long time
[04:47] <Kyral> Linux is about choices right?
[04:47] <delltony> i think parted might do the trick
[04:47] <bob2> skrewdriver: the output of "dpkg -l linux-headers-$(uname -r) | tail -n1"?
[04:47] <cfh_dev> Kyral, that's the spirit   ;-)
[04:47] <dooglus> delltony: sounds like you want to delete the ntfs partition, then make some new partitions.  if you want both windows and linux to be able to write to the same partition, you're stuck with FAT32 unfortunately.
[04:47] <BROKEN_LADDER> what is meant by osx's "pdf based" quartz?  that sounds terribly cumbersome and slow.
[04:47] <bob2> Kyral: sure, but it only consumes some small amount of disk
[04:48] <bob2> Kyral: people can choose to do whatever they want, but removing evolution will make upgrades more complicated
[04:48] <cfh_dev> bob2, it has memory resident pieces that I'm not too keen about
[04:48] <delltony> actually there is a project called captive that states it can read/right ntfs gnu/linux
[04:48] <bob2> delltony: if it's blank, you can just nuke it and repartition it from scratch
[04:48] <jknife> dooglus, well he could use ntfs he would just have to scan it every time he wrote to it in linux
[04:48] <bob2> cfh_dev: stop them running then
[04:48] <delltony> thats what i'm gonna do bob2
[04:48] <afaik> since I installed ubuntu I have a REAL problem with my laptop overheating all the time
[04:48] <afaik> why!?
[04:48] <afaik> What can I do!?
[04:48] <dooglus> jknife: how would he even write to it in linux?
[04:48] <cfh_dev> bob2, I can stop the procs but I'm having to hunt down what is starting them
[04:49] <_jason> afaik:  what laptop do you have
[04:49] <delltony> doesn't windows have a driver or something that will read ext3? i seen it on a forum i thought somewherre
[04:49] <jknife> dooglus, enable write support to ntfs in his kernel
[04:49] <afaik> Dell Inspiron 1100
[04:49] <bob2> delltony: read, yes
[04:49] <Kyral> bob2, IMO, removing a package shouldn't break anything unless its a direct depend
[04:49] <eruin> what's the correct module for a centrino?
[04:49] <bob2> delltony: I wouldn't trust windows not to break it if it wrote to it
[04:49] <dooglus> jknife: did you try that?  it doesn't let you do anything other than overwrite existing files
[04:49] <bob2> eruin: module for what? wireless?
[04:49] <bob2> Kyral: sure, but it still makes upgrades harder
[04:49] <delltony> but really i want two partitions 50gig/50gig  50 ntfs and 50 fat32 i assume its possible
[04:49] <eruin> bob2, err, sorry, pentium m :)
[04:49] <skrewdriver> bob2: looks like the packages weren't installed
[04:50] <bob2> Kyral: people who know what effect removing ubunut-desktop will have will not be asking on irc
[04:50] <nalioth> delltony: yes there is, but do you want windows mucking around in your linux?
[04:50] <dooglus> delltony: how about having two partitions, one for windows to write and one for linux.  they could both read each other's partitions, but not write.
[04:50] <bob2> skrewdriver: run the aptitude command again
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[04:50] <jknife> dooglus, its still "write" support
[04:50] <_jason> afaik:  i have a dell inspiron 820  and it hasn't given me any heat issues.  How do you know it is overheating?
[04:50] <nalioth> delltony: you only really need about 7gb for windows (on NTFS)
[04:50] <delltony> thats what i want dooglus
[04:50] <bob2> delltony: Im not sure windows will actually work with a 50GB fat32 partition
[04:50] <delltony> not installing windows on it
[04:50] <bob2> it has an absurdly low limit
[04:50] <Kyral> bob2, so when I do a server install I should install Ubuntu-Desktop even though I don't want half of the packages?
[04:50] <dooglus> nalioth: it's an external drive.  I don't think he's installing windows on it
[04:50] <delltony> simply for file storage backups only thats it
[04:51] <bob2> eruin: you don't need to load special anything then
[04:51] <delltony> but windows fat32 doesn't like long file names
[04:51] <bob2> Kyral: server != desktop used by people who don't really grok apt
[04:51] <delltony> and linux hates ntfs
[04:51] <dooglus> delltony: use NTFS and reiserfs.  or NTFS and ext3
[04:51] <bob2> windows fat32 does 255-cahr filenames just fine
[04:51] <nalioth> Kyral: no, you should install what you want to use on it
[04:51] <delltony> and this can be done with parted?
[04:51] <Kyral> thank you
[04:51] <skrewdriver> bob2: aptitude says it can't find the package "linux-headers-2.6.12-8-386"
[04:51] <eruin> bob2, I have issues with the computer resetting because it gets too hot. only happens in linux, so I figure something wrong is loaded :/
[04:52] <nalioth> delltony: use fat32
[04:52] <Kyral> I don't fully grok apt, but I believe I know enough to know what will fsck up what
[04:52] <dooglus> eruin: only in ubuntu, as far as I can tell...
[04:52] <dooglus> eruin: mandriva's fine
[04:52] <brownie17> can someone help me?, i have an mpg file that is about 850meg and i want to shrink it under 700
[04:52] <bob2> skrewdriver: your kernel is out of date
[04:52] <delltony> it does? reason i say that bob2 is it was orignally fat32 and i went to copy some files to the drive that were long file names and it gave me that error
[04:52] <bob2> eruin: dooglus my centrino laptop as been running ubuntu for 10 months and it's never overheated, and I've heard the fan turn on about 4 times
[04:53] <delltony> none the less parted will let me partition the drive like i want?
[04:53] <bob2> delltony: what error?
[04:53] <bob2> delltony: yes
[04:53] <eruin> bob2, heh.
[04:53] <skrewdriver> bob2: bloody hell. is there a quick way to get it up to date?
[04:54] <jknife> n00b question here!!! what is rsync?
[04:54] <delltony> well it said something in regard to disk partition table doesn't support long file names
[04:54] <Phily> Knelix: did u get your screen shot
[04:54] <bob2> jknife: apt-ccache show rsync
[04:54] <delltony> but anyway thats said and done i just want to get the drive formated :)
[04:54] <bob2> jknife: and rsync.samba.org
[04:54] <dooglus> jknife: fast remote file copy program (like rcp)
[04:54] <eruin> bob2, that doesn't exactly mean nobody elses centrino models might have issues with the current ubuntu setup now does it?
[04:54] <bob2> skrewdriver: install linux-386
[04:54] <bob2> eruin: no, I was disputing dooglus's claim it was a general ubuntu issue
[04:54] <skrewdriver> bob2: sweet. thanks man.
[04:55] <bob2> eruin: what does google say about other people's experiences?
[04:55] <oblib> Question: when I boot up, Ubuntu does not mount my serial ata drive (sda1). I can mount it just fine once I'm in Ubuntu. Anyone know why?
[04:55] <jknife> ty
[04:55] <afaik> is there something I can do to fix my laptop from overheating?
[04:55] <eruin> bob2, haven't found anything of substance yet
[04:55] <dooglus> bob2: I wasn't saying it was a general ubuntu problem.  I was saying it wasn't a general linux problem
[04:55] <nalioth> oblib: is it in your fstab?
[04:55] <dooglus> bob2: I was saying it was specific to ubuntu
[04:55] <nalioth> afaik: buy a cool pad?
[04:55] <oblib> nalioth: as follows: /dev/sda1       /win/f          ntfs    nls=utf8,umask=0222 0       0
[04:55] <xuniluser> What cd burner do you use in ubuntu?
[04:55] <afaik> nalioth, not the solution, it does not overheat when I dual boot to windows
[04:56] <Phily> afaik: u can get one of those bottom fan add on
[04:56] <ksmurf> Last night I was asking if anyone had ideas about why my internal wifi card kept going awol for no apperent reason on my acer travelmate 2312.  I'm using breezy kernal 2.6.12-9-686.  The card is seen again now but i know It will leave with 5 reboots (laptop).  Can anyone give me insight into why this may be happening?
[04:56] <afaik> so obviously, there is a configuration setting that needs to be set
[04:56] <afaik> Phily, NOT THE SOLUTION!
[04:56] <bob2> eruin: file a bug in bugzilla.ubuntu.com, component linux
[04:56] <afaik> THERE MUST BE SOME CONFIGURATION SETTING
[04:56] <bob2> afaik: file a bug, too
[04:56] <bob2> afaik: stop it
[04:56] <Phily> afaik: Pentium M down clock it
[04:56] <dooglus> bob2: there are several bugs about this already
[04:56] <afaik> because my laptop doesnt overheat in windows
[04:56] <afaik> Phily, NOT THE SOLUTION
[04:56] <bob2> afaik: chill out
[04:56] <nalioth> oblib: you need "auto," in front of the nls part
[04:57] <nalioth> afaik: watch the caps, please
[04:57] <Phily> afaik: r u using Pentium M?
[04:57] <dooglus> the kernel should block the cpu when it's about to overheat, before it gets powered down.  but it doesn't.
[04:57] <afaik> itr's not hardware, it is obviously a configuration issue
[04:57] <afaik> Phily, no
[04:57] <dooglus> windows does it fine, so does mandrake.  ubuntu somehow doesn't.
[04:57] <afaik> Xeon
[04:57] <Phily> afaik: what r u using
[04:57] <delltony> i'm sorry to be a pest but is there a hold my hand walkthru howto for parted?
[04:57] <bob2> dooglus: you've tested the same machine with mandrake and ubuntu?
[04:57] <dooglus> bob2: yes. and xp
[04:57] <nalioth> delltony: open a terminal, and type "sudo apt-get install qtparted"
[04:57] <dooglus> bob2: this laptop tri-boots
[04:58] <afaik> my bad, celeron
[04:58] <nalioth> delltony: after it's done, start it from the terminal
[04:58] <nalioth> delltony: it's self-explanatory
[04:58] <bob2> dooglus: interesting; have you followed up to one of the bug reports?
[04:58] <oblib> nalioth: like this? /dev/sda1       /win/f          ntfs    auto,nls=utf8,umask=0222 0       0
[04:58] <dooglus> bob2: yes
[04:58] <bob2> dooglus: great, thanks
[04:58] <jknife> "E: The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/rsync could not be found."
[04:58] <nalioth> oblib: yes
[04:58] <Phily> delltony: use qtparted
[04:58] <dooglus> bob2: I've been a bug reporting machine this last 2 weeks.
[04:58] <bob2> jknife: for errors like that, you need to tell us what on earth you're doing to get that error
[04:59] <delltony> oh qtparted not parted
[04:59] <oblib> nalioth: why do my other drives mount fine without that?
[04:59] <delltony> alright let me try that
[04:59] <bob2> dooglus: hah, cool; any been fixed yet?
[04:59] <nalioth> delltony: if you have a thing for gtk, you can install gparted instead
[04:59] <jknife> i set sources.list to use rsyns.. did apt-get update
[04:59] <nalioth> oblib: do they have "auto" in their lines?
[04:59] <jknife> rsycn*
[04:59] <bob2> jknife: er, so don't do that
[04:59] <delltony> nah i don't knock it till i try it and it don't work for me :)
[04:59] <bob2> jknife: afaik, apt doesn't have a rsync method
[04:59] <boxerboy29> this is a bit off topic but i feel the need to let ppl know what has happened if i may
[04:59] <Vaske_Car> Why my server crashing every 2-3 days? I am using just Samba on it..
[05:00] <delltony> aww cool a linux version of part magic
[05:00] <oblib> nalioth: no. I have two other IDE drives and they are identical to the first entry I pasted. They mount just fine
[05:00] <delltony> nalioth, thanks
[05:00] <delltony> you too bob2
[05:00] <boxerboy29> mandriva's kernel update will cause you to lose ubuntu
[05:00] <dooglus> afaik, eruin: perhaps you could add comments to the bug here: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16129 - to let people know it's a real issue.
[05:00] <jknife> ok...
[05:00] <delltony> now to see if my drive actually detects thats the biggy brb
[05:01] <nalioth> oblib: that is weird
[05:01] <ksmurf> I'm sorry to have bothered any of you.  I find an answer elsewhere I guess.
[05:01] <reter> bob2: you know when you install ubuntu from cd you can choose to enter 'server'. after you do that, how do you install the rest of the files?
[05:01] <bob2> ksmurf: have you filed a bug report?
[05:01] <cfh_dev> I get this message during boot.  Is worty worrying about?  "VFS: Can't find ext3 filesystem on dev hda3."
[05:01] <bob2> reter: that's not the solution to whatever problem you're having
[05:01] <cfh_dev> s/worty/worth/
[05:01] <bob2> cfh_dev: that means you miscompiled your kernel
[05:02] <bob2> cfh_dev: oh, it finishes booting?
[05:02] <_jason> how do I edit my places menu in gnome (hoary)?
[05:02] <jknife> still getting less then 100Kb
[05:02] <cfh_dev> bob2, yep, everything runs fine
[05:02] <dooglus> _jason: I think you just need to bookmark places in nautilus
[05:02] <ksmurf> Is it a bug? I have no idea how to explain an issue that is intermitant like that.
[05:02] <oblib> nalioth: thanks, I'm going to reboot and see if it works
[05:02] <bob2> cfh_dev: might just be the kernel trying to detect the filesystem type
[05:02] <cfh_dev> bob2, hda3 is reiserfs which is /.  The message doesn't seem to hinder anything
[05:02] <bob2> ksmurf: just explain it like you did above
[05:02] <reter> what is the solution then bob2?
[05:02] <dooglus> _jason: but don't bookmark too much, especially remote places, or you'll find your system start crawling)
[05:03] <_jason> dooglus:  thanks, but I wanted to remove a link: for example "Desktop"
[05:03] <ksmurf> k....Thanks I bug it right now.
[05:03] <bob2> reter: to actually find out what the problem is, for a start
[05:03] <bob2> ksmurf: great, good luck
[05:03] <dooglus> _jason: I don't know if you can.
[05:03] <bob2> reter: did you check if the CD was ok?
[05:03] <boxerboy29> they may email you asking for a file  like they did with me i think it was a file that kept track of errors
[05:03] <reter> bob2: as far as i know the cd is ok
[05:04] <bob2> reter: did you check?
[05:04] <reter> yes bob2
[05:04] <jknife> may go to debian b/c of d/l speed :-/
[05:05] <bob2> jknife: don't be silly
[05:05] <jknife> 60Kb!! compared to debian 300Kb
[05:05] <bob2> jknife: so use a different mirror, duh
[05:05] <bob2> or get a better ISP
[05:05] <bob2> even in Australia, I get 150KB/s from archive.ubuntu.com
[05:05] <jknife> i have... tried all us mirrors bout the same speed
[05:06] <bob2> that's unlikely to be a mirror problem then
[05:06] <reter> thank you so much for your help bob2
[05:06] <bob2> reter: ?
[05:07] <reter> you've been a real assistance
[05:07] <remyforbes777> anyone ever get hda lost interrupt
[05:07] <bob2> reter: you really checked the  md5sum of the cd itself?
[05:07] <bob2> reter: stop being a gimp
[05:07] <jknife> Fetched 4216kB in 54s (76.7kB/s)
[05:08] <lastnode> bob2, to confirm once before i install - the chipset is plug and play, even under hoary?
[05:08] <bob2> lastnode: ?
[05:08] <bob2> lastnode: ubuntu includes the ipw2200 driver, yes
[05:09] <lastnode> thanks, brb after install
[05:09] <ksmurf> is there an easy way to find out what drivers my wifi card is using?
[05:09] <bob2> ksmurf: dmesg and lsmod
[05:09] <bob2> (ie not without external knowledge)
[05:09] <delltony> sweet thanks again for the help guys this is workinig perfectly
[05:09] <ksmurf> I know it's mad wifi so that will help
[05:11] <boxerboy29> forget them and their crap worth of oses
[05:11] <jmg> anyone here run electricsheep?
[05:11] <bob2> ksmurf: atheros probably, then
[05:12] <remyforbes777> i installed knoppix on my hard drive and I am getting hda lost interrupt error
[05:12] <remyforbes777> any ideas
[05:12] <Travis|H> hmm, i just installed colony 5 and I was wondering ... how do you enable font smoothing ... the ubuntuguide is still on 5.04 (makes sense seeing as 5.10 isn't final yet) .. but .. just wondering
[05:12] <alisher> linux-restricted-modules includes atheros(madwifi) module, right?
[05:12] <bob2> reter: #knoppix
[05:12] <bob2> alisher: yes
[05:13] <bob2> Travis|H: system -> preferences -> fonts
[05:13] <bob2> bah
[05:13] <bob2> remyforbes777: #knoppix, of course
[05:13] <boxerboy29> if i remember right breezy "guide" should be in menu when released
[05:13] <bob2> !+find libXp.so
[05:13] <ubotu> Updating ubuntu files... please wait.
[05:13] <remyforbes777> so its just knoppix
[05:13] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'libXp.so' (3 shown): (/usr/X11R6/lib/libXp.so) in libdevel/libxp-dev ;; (/usr/X11R6/lib/{libXp.so.6|libXp.so.6.2}) in libs/libxp6 ;; (/usr/X11R6/lib/debug/{libXp.so.6|libXp.so.6.2}) in libdevel/libxp6-dbg.
[05:13] <remyforbes777> hmmm
[05:13] <bob2> remyforbes777: it has nothing to do with us
[05:14] <remyforbes777> ahhh
[05:14] <remyforbes777> gotcha
[05:14] <bob2> asking about distros in other distro's channels is kinda silly
[05:14] <bob2> and considered rude
[05:15] <henriquemaia> Hello. Does anyone knows how to make amarok play CDs?
[05:15] <jknife> yep take a hammer to it
[05:15] <remyforbes777> considered rude huh?
[05:15] <jknife> shows disrespect
[05:15] <tritium> remyforbes777, of course.  This is an ubuntu channel.
[05:16] <hosler> I tried to install PEAR to use the DB.php function on my shared hosting server, but that didnt work. Is there an alternative to DB.php that doesnt require PEAR to be installed that I can use?
[05:16] <jknife> yay i found a ftp that gives me 200+Kb
[05:16] <brownie17> does anyone know a *nix compatible alternative to Ashampoo Shrink & Burn?
[05:16] <tristanmike> RE: the wiki's restricted formats section, where it says to add the "debian-marillat" into the source.list, I do that and get an error on sudo apt-get update, anyone gimmie a sugestion?
[05:17] <jknife> brownie17, nope
[05:17] <bob2> wtf
[05:17] <Rylie> #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:17] <giard> breezy question: is there a guide to playing quicktime movies somewhere?
[05:17] <Travis|H> giard: lemme know if you find one, that's on my list of things I need to get working too :)
[05:18] <jknife> isn't there a quicktime for linux?
[05:18] <Diskgrind> I have a problem; after updating Ubuntu, the lower panel doesnt show the minimized windows on the panel, I can alt tab them back but I cant see them in the lower panel anymore.
[05:19] <jknife> right mouse click and goto add to panel
[05:19] <remyforbes777> anyone using ubuntu 64
[05:19] <Travis|H> nope no quicktime for linux
[05:19] <jknife> and add window list
[05:19] <spindley> heh
[05:19] <jknife> Diskgrind, read my last 2 msgs
[05:20] <trans_err> anyone run into a problem with evolution freezing on start in breezy?
[05:20] <Diskgrind> Yes I got them.. thank you very much.. I thought something was wrong with the deal.. thanks!!!!
[05:20] <jknife> n/p
[05:20] <remyforbes777> noone using ubuntu 64
[05:21] <jknife> remyforbes777, i HOPEFULLY will be by mid oct
[05:21] <brownie17> MadpilotPPC, what do you know about video files? i want to shrink one, it is a mpeg, 850mg. i want it less than 700. know any good software?
[05:21] <jknife> (gonna be upgrading my pc around the 10th)
[05:21] <hosler> trans_err: no
[05:21] <remyforbes777> well i have tried installing it on my amd 64 turion based laptop and it freezes at login everytime
[05:22] <jknife> brownie17, umm.. i know of windows programs
[05:22] <Diskgrind> One more question; after letting all the updates run and rebooting, I now have more choices in the grub loader and it doubled my windows XP choice, can I safely remove the older Ubuntu versions from the grub list?
[05:22] <oblib> nalioth: It didn't work -- it says it can't find the device or something
[05:22] <remyforbes777> logs says that x is configured wrong, but can't tell what x setting is wrong
[05:22] <brownie17> jknife, i had one, but through wine it didn't recognise my cd burner
[05:22] <jknife> brownie17, but any decent video editor you will be able to(just set the res to 320x200)
[05:23] <remyforbes777> knoppix live cd runs x fine
[05:23] <jknife> or 320x240
[05:23] <nalioth> oblib: weird
[05:23] <brownie17> jknife, well theres my problem isn't it? i don't have a video editor. i need one. know any programs for *nix?
[05:23] <alisher> http://heroinewarrior.com/quicktime.php3
[05:24] <oblib> Is there a file that records all of the messages it shows at boot?
[05:24] <jknife> yeah.. umm there is one called actorstudio(?) dont know if thats the right name but it comes with SuSE is how i found about it
[05:24] <alisher> http://freshmeat.net/projects/quicktimeforlinux/
[05:24] <jknife> (its commerical)
[05:24] <Diskgrind> One more question; after letting all the updates run and rebooting, I now have more choices in the grub loader and it doubled my windows XP choice, can I safely remove the older Ubuntu versions from the grub list? or should I even do that?
[05:24] <alex_f> oblib: dmesg
[05:24] <brownie17> jknife, thanks
[05:24] <jknife> np
[05:25] <jknife> (gotta close X need to free up resources)
[05:25] <jorgp2> trans_err: no, but I have run into firefox causing Xorg to use 800+Meg of ram and grinding the machine to a halt because it only have 256M ram and 768M swap
[05:25] <xuniluser> HELP: Can I burn a .iso file using nautilus?
[05:25] <oblib> thanks alex_f
[05:25] <jknife> use cddao
[05:25] <Diskgrind> Have a good night all
[05:26] <jorgp2> xuniluser: yes, right click and burn image
[05:26] <epiloc> does anyone here think walmart would cary a usb floppy drive?
[05:26] <reter> yes epiloc
[05:26] <epiloc> off to walmart i go
[05:27] <jorgp2> epiloc: yes, like $30-40
[05:27] <reter> epiloc, what else is open at this time for you?
[05:27] <delltony> wafflehouse :p
[05:27] <epiloc> nothing i can think of
[05:27] <epiloc> kmart
[05:27] <reter> epiloc, wait tomorrow and go to a computer store
[05:27] <delltony> epiloc, you have wafflehouse?
[05:27] <reter> no not kmart
[05:27] <epiloc> but electronics close early i thought
[05:27] <trs4ece> hey, how do we use those .deb files found in the ubuntu package search?
[05:27] <oblib> So my problem I think is that it tries to mount the serial ATA drive before it knows it's there. Is there somewhere I can tell manually to mount later in the boot process?
[05:27] <tritium> reter, why are you telling him to wait?
[05:27] <xuniluser> jorgp2: but it seems it can't locate the cd inside, eventhough after placing the blank cd, a new window opens...
[05:28] <delltony> if you have a frys around you go there they are the computer geeks homedepot
[05:28] <jorgp2> xuniluser: close the new window
[05:28] <epiloc> man, lubbock has no frys
[05:28] <epiloc> i miss dallas
[05:28] <Spudz0r> hai everyone
[05:29] <delltony> i assume dallas texas
[05:29] <epiloc> ok im off to wallyworld, i HAVE to get this laptop running
[05:29] <delltony> i use to live in austin
[05:29] <Travis|H> hmm, is anyone able to add this radio station to Rhythmbox http://64.236.34.97:80/stream/1039 ............ when I attempt to play this back I get "unexpected end of stream"
[05:29] <Travis|H> as do i with all other stations im trying to add
[05:29] <remyforbes777> anyone in ohio
[05:29] <delltony> Travis|H, just curious have you tried it with xmms?
[05:30] <xuniluser> xuniluser: still it asks for a blank cd
[05:30] <desidaerius504> I'm across the river in KY remy
[05:30] <remyforbes777> oh yeah, im in cincinnati, what part of ky?
[05:30] <xuniluser> jorgp2: still it asks for a blank cd
[05:30] <oblib> Anyone know how to add a manual mount later in the boot process?
[05:30] <desidaerius504> florence/union
[05:30] <delltony> remyforbes777,  you around wooster or miamisburg dayton?
[05:30] <nalioth> desidaerius504: remyforbes777 in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[05:30] <Travis|H> delltony: i don't have xmms installed, i'll try
[05:31] <Spudz0r> would anyone be able to help me... i've installed ubuntu 5.04 on my new laptop and got everything working, apart from my battery monitor... when i do 'cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1/state' all i get is 'present: yes, ERROR Unable to read battery status', can anyone help me?
[05:31] <desidaerius504> sorry
[05:31] <delltony> well xmms to me is the winamp of linux
[05:31] <Travis|H> yea, i used itunes in windows .. and rhythmbox seems to be the itunes of linux :)
[05:31] <oblib> nalioth can you help me?
[05:31] <nalioth> oblib: with what?
[05:32] <delltony> well i always play shoutcast streams and xmms is all i could find that worked for me
[05:32] <Travis|H> bah, no XMMS for breezy either
[05:32] <jsubl2> i bet amarok would work with shoutcast
[05:32] <delltony> yeah there is
[05:32] <xuniluser> jorgp2: it says Insert Blank Disc
[05:32] <Travis|H> which repo?
[05:32] <delltony> i'm using it :)
[05:32] <delltony> hang on let me find out
[05:32] <reter> how do you configure x?
[05:33] <boxerboy29> nalioth: is it worth using ubuntu and than installing kubuntu on other drive? instead of mixing the 2
[05:33] <oblib> nalioth I think I just need to put a manual mount command later in the boot process, after it has recognized the serialATA drive. Can I do that?
[05:33] <alisher> Travis|H how came no xmms for breezu
[05:33] <delltony> hmm i thought apt-cache show showed the repository
[05:34] <nalioth> boxerboy29: (k)ubuntu are the same animal underneath. only the interface is different
[05:34] <Travis|H> i dunno i have universe and multiverse in my sources
[05:34] <Travis|H> backports seems to not work
[05:34] <delltony> pool/main/x/xmms/xmms_1.2.10+cvs20050209-2ubuntu2_i386.deb
[05:34] <delltony> i can post my source.list if you want
[05:34] <Travis|H> yea just /msg it to me
[05:34] <alisher> Travis|H xmms isnt in Universe
[05:35] <delltony> ill paste bin it
[05:35] <Travis|H> alisher: where is it?
[05:35] <boxerboy29> yeah i know but there are things i enjoy using kde for and im really getting tired of getting ubuntu screwed up by redhat/redora/and mandriva
[05:35] <alisher> I think main or restricted
[05:35] <nerdcore> i don't suppose someone could answer a quick question about GRUB on Ubuntu?
[05:35] <alisher> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=xmms&searchon=names&subword=1&version=breezy&release=all
[05:35] <xuniluser> Are there other cd burning programs for ubuntu aside from nautilus?
[05:35] <delltony> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/376470
[05:35] <delltony> there you go
[05:36] <hud> Seveas: you here?
[05:36] <Travis|H> thanks dell
[05:36] <delltony> np
[05:36] <Amaranth> xuniluser: gnomebaker and k3b
[05:36] <Toma-> xuniluser: k3b = <3
[05:36] <delltony> oh and travis you running it on a lappy?
[05:36] <brownie17> i need help, i was trying to compile a program, and i got the following error: No package 'gtk+-2.0' found
[05:36] <alisher> Travis|H xmms is in main
[05:37] <xuniluser> Amaranth: thanks
[05:37] <brownie17> nalioth, is that a bug in the program? ^^^
[05:37] <xuniluser> Toma: thanks
[05:37] <delltony> alisher how do you determine that in aptitude? or is there a way
[05:37] <nerdcore> is there a utility i can use to automatically reconfigure GRUB? when I have it load windows it just hangs, and i would rather not go manually configure it....
[05:37] <Toma-> brownie17: compiling usually needs the -dev packages of everything u need to compile with
[05:37] <nalioth> brownie17: no its a lapse in your installing skillz. install libgtk<something>-dev
[05:38] <Toma-> just get the deb :(
[05:38] <brownie17> nalioth, i have no illusions of grandure, but i do not follow. what is the <something>?
[05:39] <nalioth> brownie17: <something> is my memory doesnt tell me what numbers go there
[05:39] <ryufreak> i need a bunch of help!
[05:39] <ryufreak> i can't figure out how to get access to my other hard drive :(
[05:40] <vladuz976> i noticed in expert mode you can use the option "desktop" to install and i guess it sets up different partions for / and /boot what is the advantage of that as to having it in one like with default installation?
[05:40] <ryufreak> can anyone help me?
[05:41] <delltony> ryufreak, what type of hdd is it? as in ntfs fat32?
[05:41] <trs4ece> What do I have to do to use packages?  I've downloaded a couple and they each have two tar files and a debian-binary but I don't know what to do with 'em.
[05:41] <reter> how do you reconfigure x?
[05:41] <dreamwave> hi.  just got my new hard drive in the mail.  i plan to install a dual boot system to it.  should i install xp first?
[05:41] <ryufreak> fat32
[05:41] <delltony> how many drives in he system?
[05:41] <ryufreak> 2
[05:41] <Toma-> reter: what do u need to do?
[05:41] <thrice`> dreamwave, most definitely
[05:41] <dreamwave> thanks
[05:41] <delltony> more than likely its hdc
[05:41] <reter> Toma-: my gnome is not working. i want to try to configure it
[05:41] <ryufreak> ?
[05:42] <Toma-> gnome and X are 2 different things...
[05:42] <delltony> but you can try doing a fdisk -l /dev/hdc
[05:42] <Travis|H> yea the stream works peachy in XMMS :(
[05:42] <delltony> and see if it looks lie the drive
[05:42] <Travis|H> gah stupid rhythmbox
[05:42] <Toma-> u sure its X u need to fix or gnome?
[05:42] <ryufreak> in terminal?
[05:42] <reter> tome: dont know
[05:43] <Hmmmm> hi guys i need some help configuring X on my friend's machine
[05:43] <ryufreak> bash: -l: command not found
[05:43] <brownie17> Travis|H, rhythmbox is great
[05:43] <nalioth> !tell ryufreak about windowsdrives
[05:43] <trs4ece> ah come on guys, it can't be that hard to use these packages, even a URL to a site explaining what to do would help
[05:43] <delltony> if so then 1) sudo mkdir /media/myfat32  2) chmod 777 /media/fat32  3) sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hdc /media/myfat32
[05:43] <Hmmmm> he has an intel 82845G grpahics card and a compaq s700 monitor
[05:43] <uglysmurf> smb shares not showing up, even at smb://127.0.0.1 ...it recognizes that smb is up and running, but it's not realizing any shares...anyone?
[05:43] <Travis|H> brownie: yea i can't get it to playback a shoutcast stream
[05:43] <Hmmmm> i cant get beyong 800x600@16 bit
[05:44] <trs4ece> Hmmmm: register your nick and type /msg ubotu fixres
[05:44] <Hmmmm> can someone suggest some solution to go 1026@24 bit?
[05:44] <Toma-> reter: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep (EE)
[05:44] <Travis|H> i'm trying to add http://64.236.34.97:80/stream/1039 as a radio station and it won't play .. says "Stream Error Unexpected end of stream" .. but it plays back just fine in XMMS
[05:44] <Toma-> reter: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep "(EE)"
[05:44] <delltony> aww so xmms did work
[05:44] <Travis|H> yep
[05:44] <Hmmmm> trs4ece, thanks, am taking al ook at the site
[05:44] <Toma-> what does that return?
[05:44] <ryufreak> sudo mkdir /media/myfat32, i did that and it asked for pw, i entered, i'm guessing that detected it?
[05:44] <delltony> yeah i never had luck with rythm myself so i gave up
[05:45] <Travis|H> i guess xmms uses gtk1? heh menus are hideous
[05:45] <nalioth> delltony: read what ubotu just sent you please, you'll find a lot easier way to help folks
[05:45] <Toma-> Hmmmm: you need to add the resultion to xorg.conf
[05:45] <delltony> yeah was reading it just now and thanks
[05:45] <vladuz976> libtagc0 is not in the repo for breezy?
[05:45] <reter> toma: no such file or directory
[05:46] <oblib> question: Ubuntu does not mount my serial ATA drive during boot and returns an error that it cannot find the device (it is in fstab). I think that it is trying to mount it before it recognizes the serial ATA. Does anyone know how I can fix this?
[05:46] <trs4ece> I feel like a broken record, has anybody here ever used packages downloaded from the ubuntu website and if so, hwo do you install them?
[05:46] <Toma-> reter: u using xorg?
[05:46] <delltony> hey nalioth you happen to know when firefox will be stable in breezy? it crashes like a drunk on friday night :)
[05:46] <bob2> delltony: if you find reproducible crashes, please do file bugs
[05:46] <bob2> delltony: sadly, removing your profile often helps
[05:47] <reter> toma: apprently not
[05:47] <philc> anyone use rezound sound editor?
[05:47] <Toma-> gosh. well i dunno the file name :/
[05:47] <delltony> oh really thats something i will try but it happens on java enabled sites mostly
[05:47] <delltony> even though the offical sun java is installed and is working per their test page
[05:47] <Toma-> reter: check your x seve log for (EE) messages
[05:47] <Toma-> *server
[05:47] <bob2> oh, java
[05:48] <delltony> yeah i know you don't have to tell me ;)
[05:48] <bob2> if you're using non-free plugins, you need to talk to whoever made them, mostly
[05:48] <evian> trs4ece, use dpkg -i whatever.deb
[05:48] <afaik> woo hoo!!
[05:48] <afaik> 100% downloaded
[05:49] <trs4ece> evian: thank you!  I'm off to do some installing now :-)
[05:49] <evian> great
[05:49] <afaik> it was a warez pack...10 gigz of warez :P
[05:49] <afaik> just kidding... freebsd cds
[05:50] <vladuz976> how can i make a debian *.deb file usable for ubuntu?
[05:50] <bob2> vladuz976: you can't, generally
[05:50] <bob2> vladuz976: normally rebuilding the debian source on ubuntu is enough
[05:51] <Hmmmm> Toma-, the thing is that the entry for 1024@24 bit is there in xorg. but the damn thing doesnt accpet it
[05:51] <vladuz976> bob2, but i need this one package and it's not available in breezy yet
[05:51] <afaik> it already is
[05:51] <afaik> ubuntu uzez debs
[05:51] <afaik> s/debs/debz
[05:51] <bob2> vladuz976: and the package is...
[05:51] <ryufreak> so i just did this winmac_fstab, and i still can't figure out how to go into the other hard drive
[05:51] <vladuz976> bob2, libtagc0
[05:51] <Toma-> Hmmmm: u using the right defaultdepth?
[05:51] <oblib> How do I add a program to run every time I boot?
[05:51] <bob2> vladuz976: why do you need it?
[05:52] <vladuz976> bob2, for enlightenment wm
[05:52] <bob2> e16 doesn't need that
[05:52] <vladuz976> bob2, e17 does
[05:52] <BROKEN_LADDER> how can i use mv to change the name of a directory?
[05:52] <nalioth> vladuz976: use ubuntu stuff, or compile
[05:52] <bob2> MaTaKs: no need to /msg me
[05:52] <oblib> ryufreak do you understand how to mount drives?
[05:52] <bob2> BROKEN_LADDER: mv foo bar
[05:52] <nalioth> ryufreak: look in /media
[05:52] <xuniluser> Why is that my gnomebaker and nautilus can't detect a cd inside my burner?
[05:53] <BROKEN_LADDER> bob2 that says "cannot copy foo into subdirectory bar"
[05:53] <Toma-> i think he pm'ed the whole channel...
[05:53] <vladuz976> nalioth, what do you mean by "ubuntu" stuff? i compile
[05:53] <xuniluser> i mean my cdrom writer
[05:53] <bob2> vladuz976: if you're compiling it, you need the -dev package
[05:53] <BROKEN_LADDER> bob2 i don't want to copy foo into bar.  i want to change the name
[05:53] <vladuz976> bob2, can't even find that
[05:53] <bob2> BROKEN_LADDER: show us the actual command you ran
[05:53] <BROKEN_LADDER> mv coldplay COLDPLAY
[05:53] <BROKEN_LADDER> http://www.wamu.com/personal/default.asp
[05:53] <BROKEN_LADDER> err..
[05:53] <Toma-> MaTaKs: yes its good...?
[05:53] <BROKEN_LADDER> mv: cannot move `coldplay' to a subdirectory of itself, `COLDPLAY/coldplay'
[05:53] <epiloc> mmm lovely walmart
[05:54] <bob2> BROKEN_LADDER: that won't work on fat32
[05:54] <BROKEN_LADDER> could this be because the fs is fat 32?
[05:54] <bob2> yes
[05:54] <Diskgrind> Can I have Gnome  AND  Kde and be able to choose one or the other at boot?
[05:54] <BROKEN_LADDER> doh!
[05:54] <bob2> it's case-insensitive
[05:54] <BROKEN_LADDER> bob2 some directories on this drive or caps and some are lowercase.
[05:54] <bob2> mv coldplay blah ; mv blah COLDPLAY
[05:54] <Toma-> Diskgrind: yes. u get to choose at login
[05:54] <bob2> BROKEN_LADDER: yes, fat32 handles it in a moronic way
[05:54] <bob2> BROKEN_LADDER: it stores the case, but doesn't let files differ only in case
[05:54] <Diskgrind> How do I do the choice?
[05:54] <vladuz976> bob2, is libtagc0-dev in the repo? i can't find it
[05:55] <hejux> hi ,i got a wrong messege on booting :failed to allocate mem resource 0X0xxx-xxX0000(some num. like this
[05:55] <alisher> vladuz976: strange, I have libtagc0 in breezy, why you dont?
[05:55] <Toma-> Diskgrind: ure using gdm or kdm? its on the login screen, click around till u find it
[05:55] <hejux> my os is ubuntu 5.10 pre.
[05:55] <ryufreak> nlioth: that worked thanks
[05:55] <bob2> vladuz976: yes, it's in breezy
[05:55] <Diskgrind> Toma  how do I find that?
[05:55] <vladuz976> alisher, bob2 don't know just installed breezy from iso
[05:56] <Diskgrind> toma   oh at the username and password part/
[05:56] <Samhain> is there a way to automatically recreate the xorg.conf file?
[05:56] <bob2> vladuz976: ok, but it is in in breezy, in universe
[05:56] <Toma-> Diskgrind: u know where u login with your user and pass? its there
[05:56] <Toma-> Diskgrind: yes.
[05:56] <bob2> Samhain: what did you do to it?
[05:56] <alisher> vladuz976: it is in Universe or Multiverse, enable them
[05:56] <oblib> nalioth: that's a smooth script, but still doesn't help my serial ATA problem
[05:56] <vladuz976> bob2, if i enable universe i get errors
[05:56] <omp> vladuz976: edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:56] <Diskgrind> toma  thank you  I will try that.   So Ubuntu can have booth GUI's?
[05:56] <Samhain> yeah, I thought I copied it for a backup, then I deleted it. There was no copy :-\
[05:56] <vladuz976> omp, i did but then apt-get gives errors
[05:56] <bob2> vladuz976: perhaps showing them to us instaed of ignoring them would work better?
[05:56] <bob2> Samhain: don't ever delete config files from /etc/
[05:56] <vladuz976> bob2, ok
[05:56] <nalioth> oblib: well i guess a rewrite is in order, eh?
[05:56] <Samhain> well, too late
[05:56] <Hmmmm> Toma-, I tried using 24 bit as defaultdepth, but X mombed on me
[05:56] <alisher> vladuz976: sudo apt-get update
[05:57] <hejux> bob2 ,do you know whats the reason ?
[05:57] <Diskgrind> Toma What do most people use?  I am new at this...
[05:57] <omp> vladuz976: did you apt-get update after it?
[05:57] <bob2> Samhain: sudo dpkg -P --force-depends xserver-org ; sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[05:57] <Samhain> doesn't matter too much, I can just re-install
[05:57] <Samhain> i'll try that
[05:57] <Samhain> thanks
[05:57] <oblib> nalioth: Nah, it does what it's supposed to I would guess. I'm thinking my SATA is just special
[05:57] <hejux> i got a wrong messege on booting :failed to allocate mem resource 0X0xxx-xxX0000(some num. like this)
[05:58] <Diskgrind> toma   Thanks
[05:58] <Toma-> Hmmmm: whatd it say?
[05:58] <vladuz976> bob2, ok this is odd, before my update, enabling gave me errors, now after updating it's fine. so i guess libtagc0 should be ok now
[05:58] <narg> So I'm attempting to copy an iso off a cd by doing cp /dev/cdrom1 myiso.iso, but I get cp: reading `/dev/cdrom1': Input/output error
[05:58] <narg> scratched cd?
[05:59] <omp> vladuz976: after editing sources.list you have to apt-get update :P
[05:59] <omp> vladuz976: or else you'll get errors :D
[05:59] <bob2> narg: or dodge drive
[05:59] <alisher> vladuz976: or if in Synaptic you have to click reload
[05:59] <ryufreak> I hard a hard time installing my x800xl with ubuntu, so I used my 6600gt, is there a way for me to install my x800xl?
[05:59] <vladuz976> omp, yeah i know, thanks, but that was when i got the error. it said something like "can't read" some and then the url for the listing in sources.list
[05:59] <bob2> narg: 'dd if=/dev/cdrom of=./foo.img' may work better
[05:59] <narg> would being on knoppix have any effect? (ubuntu isnt bootable atm)
[05:59] <narg> ok
[05:59] <Toma-> Hmmmm: u trying to use the standard drivers to get a decent resolution? coz it doesnt work...
[05:59] <narg> I'll try that
[06:00] <Strife> is anyone aware of a tool that lets you monitor ink level and do alignment for HP printers?
[06:00] <Samhain> bob2, thanks for the help
[06:00] <jrattner1> Why isnt Banshee available in hoary?
[06:00] <skopii> hi, is there a ubuntu repostory w/ mplayer?
[06:00] <Samhain> I somehow deleted the xserver. I said it was not installed
[06:00] <Samhain> I don't remember doing that
[06:00] <narg> skopii: multiverse/backports. Not sure which
[06:00] <bob2> jrattner1: did it exist in Debian in februry?
[06:01] <alisher> jrattner1: nbnashee is in Universe or multiverse
[06:01] <bob2> skopii: multiverse
[06:01] <skopii> thanks narg
[06:01] <skopii> thanks bob2
[06:01] <bob2> Samhain: er, read again what command I told you to run
[06:01] <jrattner1> its says its not available on the wiki
[06:01] <vladuz976> is there multiverse for breezy?
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> vladuz976,  yes.
[06:01] <alisher> there is
[06:01] <Strife> of course there is
[06:02] <Hmmmm> Toma-, ok lemme try it again
[06:02] <vladuz976> Dr_Willis, where can i find out what repos i can add to my sources. list in breezy?
[06:02] <jrattner1> alisher, Banshee works well with ipods i hear
[06:02] <bob2> vladuz976: the same ubuntu.com repositories as hoary
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> no clue.. i would guess the wiki's and forums are the place to start.
[06:02] <alisher> jrattner1 never used:(
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> i just added in multiverse after the lines that say 'universe' i think :P
[06:03] <vladuz976> bob2, right now after install i only have universe in my list
[06:03] <Travis|H> is the backports repisotory broken?
[06:03] <bob2> Travis|H: talk to the backports people
[06:03] <bob2> none of them appear to use irc or email
[06:03] <alisher> vladuz976: you have to add multiverse, it isnt oficially supported
[06:03] <Travis|H> awesome
[06:03] <vladuz976> alisher, where can i find available stuff to add?
[06:03] <jrattner1> alisher, i dont see banshee in universe
[06:04] <Amaranth> Travis|H: If you were using one of the bad unofficial backports repos then yes, they are down and will stay down.
[06:04] <alisher> jrattner1: maybe it is in multiverse
[06:04] <bob2> NeoFax-Away: please turn that off
[06:04] <Amaranth> !backports
[06:04] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[06:04] <alisher> I am not sure I have them all enabled, and i see banshee
[06:04] <Travis|H> yea .. im on breezy though .. probally just a matter of that
[06:04] <Amaranth> ah
[06:05] <Amaranth> you don't need the backports then, there is nothing to backport
[06:05] <ryufreak> whats the command to update X?
[06:06] <alisher> jrattner1: it is in universe, did you du sudo apt-get update?
[06:06] <jrattner1> alisher, im using synaptic
[06:06] <alisher> click "reload" after enabled universe
[06:07] <vladuz976> everything in my sources.list is enabled, isn't there some website that shows what to add to the list for multiverse?
[06:07] <jrattner1> alisher, its already enabled
[06:07] <alisher> then click Reload and search banshee
[06:07] <jrattner1> alisher, comes up with nothing
[06:07] <bob2> vladuz976: you don't need one
[06:07] <bob2> vladuz976: just add the multiverse after universe
[06:08] <alisher> or... you have Hoary?
[06:08] <khermans> Anyone have problems printing with evince?
[06:08] <khermans> in breezy
[06:08] <vladuz976> bob2, can you paste your sources.list somewhere so i can see it?
[06:08] <alisher> nanshee is in breezy only
[06:08] <bob2> vladuz976: no
[06:08] <Oris> Am i on Ubuntu support channel?
[06:08] <jrattner1> alisher, see thats what i was saying
[06:08] <alisher> maybe it is in backports then
[06:08] <bob2> Oris: it's called #ubuntu...
[06:08] <alisher> I use breezy, am not sure
[06:08] <prc> I'm using Hoary and I need libmp4v2.  It is not availible via apt.  What should I do?
[06:08] <bob2> vladuz976: add the word multiverse after universe
[06:08] <Oris> :))) Just checking :)
[06:09] <Oris> I have a problem.. Just installed Ubuntu(right now in Windows)
[06:09] <vladuz976> bob2,  "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse" like that?
[06:09] <Travis|H> gah ok .. 3 packages i seem to have lost access to when jumping to Breezy ......... azureus, limewire, and w32codecs ...... where did they go?
[06:09] <Diskgrind> I installed Ubuntu and am using the Gnome Interface, can install Kde as well and use them both??
[06:09] <esac> how do i add a new module to be loaded on boot ? (i.e., i installed a wireless card driver, did modprobe ipw2200, it worked, and now i want it to always modprobe at boot)
[06:09] <bimberi> Diskgrind: yes
[06:10] <bob2> vladuz976: yup, exactly
[06:10] <Toma-> Diskgrind: yes. apt-get install kde-desktop
[06:10] <Toma-> i think
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> w32codecs   --> http://www.giannaros.org/tor/bt/
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> not sure about the others.
[06:10] <bob2> Travis|H: they were never in ubuntu
[06:10] <Jack_B> w32codecs has been taken off backports
[06:10] <bob2> Travis|H: they were in random other repositories you used to use
[06:10] <Jack_B> refer to Dr_Willis link
[06:10] <bimberi> Diskgrind: install kubuntu-desktop and you can choose the different environments from the login screen
[06:10] <khermans> Can someone try printing a PDF from evince and tell me if you get junk for output?
[06:10] <prc> I'm using Hoary and I need libmp4v2.  It is not availible via apt.  What should I do?
[06:10] <regeya> indeed.
[06:10] <Oris> When(in Grub) i start Linux Ubuntu, it starts loading and then "Critical Temperature was reached..." HOW DO I CHANGE THE CRITICAL SHUTDOWN TEMP? I can't get in OS
[06:10] <bob2> esac: you know ubuntu includes the ipw2200 driver, right?
[06:10] <Jack_B> try synaptic and search for it
[06:10] <vladuz976> bob2, thanks. but still  isn't there something that explains all these repos? some website?
[06:10] <Travis|H> k i assume azureus and limewire were also part of backports i take it
[06:11] <Toma-> Oris: check your cpu fan is working
[06:11] <Amaranth> Travis|H: I know at least w32codecs isn't in hoary-extras anymore either for legal reasons. (It's flatout illegal in any country with copyright law)
[06:11] <regeya> Diskgrind: you'll also get the option of changing over to kdm at that time; I wholeheartedly recommend it.
[06:11] <bob2> vladuz976: /msg ubotu repository
[06:11] <Diskgrind> I already installed Ubuntu   I do have the Kubuntu disk as well  how can I get both GUI's ?
[06:11] <prc> Jack_B, I did, and it's not there
[06:11] <Jack_B> vladuz976, try www.ubuntuguide.com
[06:11] <esac> bob2: i had to compile it because i am running the 2.6.13.2 kernel (because my laptop would hang when powering off or rebooting)
[06:11] <regeya> yikes.
[06:11] <khermans> Amaranth, the new gnome-bt is really good, an not feature bloated like Azureaus
[06:11] <Toma-> Diskgrind: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[06:11] <Toma-> is how
[06:11] <bob2> Diskgrind: install kubuntu-desktop
[06:11] <Oris> Toma - it works, i know i always have a high temperature(~60)
[06:11] <regeya> Diskgrind: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:11] <regeya> that's all
[06:11] <Amaranth> khermans: err
[06:11] <bob2> esac: if it's installed correctly, hotplug will load it magically
[06:11] <regeya> Diskgrind: I'm running kubuntu-desktop, and that's how I did it.
[06:11] <ColonelKernel> once again, im having DNS problems
[06:11] <esac> bob2: ok, thanks
[06:12] <regeya> works great
[06:12] <Jack_B> prc: go to command and type in sudo apt-get update
[06:12] <Toma-> Oris: its in your bios. probably under PC health/status option
[06:12] <Sonny_Wertzik> anybody here use fluxbox with hoary?
[06:12] <ColonelKernel> this has randomly popped its ugly head up again
[06:12] <Jack_B> prc, that should update the list of packages available
[06:12] <khermans> Amaranth, why not use it?
[06:12] <esac> bob2: now i just have to get the ati driver to work :)
[06:12] <Amaranth> khermans: I think you wanted to talk to Travis|H
[06:12] <Jack_B> if that doesn't work you'll have to edit your source list and add more repositories
[06:13] <Travis|H> the reason i like Azureus is it has support for RSS feeds
[06:13] <Travis|H> it's useful for getting IPTV shows automatically
[06:13] <henriquemaia> Hello. Does anyone knows how to make amarok play CDs?
[06:13] <Diskgrind> Toma-  I put in command line and it is installing now..  We will see how that works out.. Thanks guys!!!
[06:13] <Jack_B> anybody want to recommend a C compiler with a gui for linux?
[06:14] <prc> Jack_B, I updated and searched the cache, and nothing shows up.  Is there any other way to safely get a library?
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> C compiler with a GUi.... o_0
[06:14] <Jack_B> ?
[06:14] <Amaranth> Travis|H: What is IPTV?
[06:14] <Amaranth> Travis|H: Nevermind.
[06:14] <Diskgrind> What do most people use as far as GUI's??
[06:14] <packman_e> gnome
[06:14] <Diskgrind> gnome or kde
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> Diskgrind,  whatever they feel like. :P
[06:14] <Toma-> kde
[06:14] <prc> Jack_B, My source list has everything Hoary has to offer, as far as I know
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> or neither... or like me - use both.
[06:15] <bob2> Jack_B: no useful C compiler has a GUI
[06:15] <Jack_B> ubuntu has gnome by default
[06:15] <Toma-> if im feeling sassy, i use enlightenment
[06:15] <Oris> I see this IRC channel is not helpful... No one answers my question.
[06:15] <nalioth> Jack_B: you mean like kdevelop?
[06:15] <bob2> Jack_B: you're looking for an IDE, I take it?
[06:15] <Diskgrind> lol
[06:15] <Jack_B> bob2: ahh ok
[06:15] <bob2> Oris: that's an awesome attitude
[06:15] <Diskgrind> ok ..ok
[06:15] <Sonny_Wertzik> anybody here use fluxbox with hoary?
[06:15] <Diskgrind> funny
[06:15] <Oris> lol..
[06:15] <Toma-> Oris: i answered.
[06:15] <Toma-> scroll up :/
[06:15] <Jack_B> prc: sorry i can't help you any further, i'm a noob too
[06:15] <Oris> I wrote you in private...
[06:15] <Jack_B> prc: try asking the mods
[06:15] <Travis|H> Amaranth: it's basically just "web shows" .. there's one called Systm, one called OpenAlpha.tv, one called Command.N, one called Digital Life TV
[06:16] <Toma-> no u didnt
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> most private msgs get ignored. due to all the spam bots lately. :P
[06:16] <B_166-ER-X> private wont work is your nick isnt registered
[06:16] <prc> Jack_B, who are the mods?
[06:16] <Jack_B> nalioth: can i get kdevelop through synaptic
[06:16] <Oris> Toma.. Do you get my messages? Ok - you write me something
[06:16] <B_166-ER-X> if
[06:16] <oblib> question: Ubuntu does not mount my serial ATA drive during boot and returns an error that it cannot find the device (it is in fstab). I think that it is trying to mount it before it recognizes the serial ATA. Does anyone know how I can fix this?
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> oblib,  interesting.. does 'fdisk -l' show the device?
[06:16] <Sonny_Wertzik> OK can someont tell me if the new fluxbox works with hoary?
[06:16] <Jack_B> prc: only seveas is online right now, trying asking other more experienced people
[06:16] <Travis|H> the bulk of the IPTV shows are released under the creative commons licence and a lot use bittorrent as the sole method of distribution to cut down on bandwidth costs ..
[06:16] <packman_e> sorry guys, while following the ubuntu faq i am told to put in this repository 'deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted'. unfortunately i get errors any ideas on how to solve it please?
[06:17] <ryufreak> would there be a way for me to get my x800xl to work?
[06:17] <Travis|H> advantage with Azureus is that it's able to monitor an RSS feed and automatically startup a transfer when a new episode is available
[06:17] <Oris> Toma - i saw your message, don't you see mines?
[06:17] <alisher> breezy backports? from what?
[06:17] <Toma-> nope?
[06:17] <ryufreak> i can only run in 6600gt
[06:17] <bob2> packman_e: er, no, what url "told you to do that"?
[06:17] <Oris> Ok...
[06:17] <packman_e> http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/ch02.html
[06:17] <bob2> Toma-: so install it...
[06:17] <Oris> What do you suggest me to do? What's in my BIOS?
[06:17] <packman_e> chapter 2
[06:17] <Toma-> how very quirky.
[06:17] <bob2> bah
[06:17] <prc> Seveas, I need a library that is not availible through apt. I have Hoary.  Is there any other way to safely install a library?
[06:18] <Toma-> thank 4 the tip bob2 :P
[06:18] <Toma-> ?
[06:18] <bob2> prc: what do you need the library for?
[06:18] <bob2> Travis|H: so install it
[06:18] <prc> bob2, gtkpod
[06:19] <Oris> Toma - is there a way how i can change trip points from WINDOWS? to change critical temp.
[06:19] <Diskgrind> Toma-  what display manager should I choose???  gdm or kdm?
[06:19] <esac> has anybody got their wireless card working with a Microsoft Radius server (including certificate authentication) ?
[06:19] <bob2> prc: gtkpod is in ubuntu already
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> Diskgrind,  stick with gdm
[06:19] <oblib> Dr_Willis: yes
[06:19] <esac> definetely gdm
[06:19] <Toma-> Oris: nope. its a bios 'feature'
[06:19] <Diskgrind> ok   gdm it is..
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> oblib,  if fdisk -l shows it.. check your fstab entry - it may just be wrong.
[06:19] <packman_e> bob2, it is in chapter 2 of the ubuntu faq quide
[06:19] <Oris> What is a BIOS feature?
[06:19] <prc> bob2, I know and I have it, but it requires libmp4v2 to read aac files
[06:19] <Toma-> Diskgrind: go with whatever your heart tells you.
[06:20] <Toma-> Oris: its a thing the bios does.
[06:20] <Diskgrind> lol
[06:20] <bob2> packman_e: you mean "the unofficial ubuntu guide"?
[06:20] <oblib> Dr_Willis: I can mount just fine once I'm in Ubuntu. fstab says :/dev/sda1       /win/f          ntfs    auto,nls=utf8,umask=0222 0       0
[06:20] <Diskgrind> are you trying to be funny? Toma-
[06:20] <Diskgrind> lol
[06:20] <Toma-> trying :(
[06:20] <bob2> esac: that will be a pain in the arse with a custom kernel
[06:20] <Oris> Toma - can BIOS change linux files? ahem..
[06:20] <geckosalive> hey, im not seeing a list of system requirements on the site, is there somewhere i can find a list?
[06:20] <alisher> packman_e: do you use breezy or hoary?
[06:20] <Toma-> Oris: ...possibly?
[06:21] <esac> bob2: can't i just grab an initramfs from a running system and just use it on mine?
[06:21] <packman_e> i think hoary, 5.04
[06:21] <bob2> esac: none of the modules inside it will work with your custom kernel
[06:21] <bob2> packman_e: right, ignore it then
[06:21] <Jack_B> geckosalive: system requirements for hoary?
[06:21] <prc> bob2, any suggestions?
[06:21] <alisher> packman_e: than replace breezy with hoary
[06:21] <geckosalive> ubuntu
[06:22] <Jack_B> geckosalive, try googling it
[06:22] <geckosalive> okay
[06:22] <Oris> Toma: i need to run command like echo "70:70:70:70:65:40" > path/to/trip_points file
[06:22] <bob2> prc: eh? libmp4v2-0  is in multiverse.
[06:22] <Toma-> oh you wanna mess with /proc?
[06:22] <oblib> any ideas Dr_Willis?
[06:22] <bob2> alisher: please don't give bad advice like that
[06:22] <Oris> Toma: and i can't get in linux..
[06:22] <prc> bob2, for Hoary?
[06:22] <bob2> packman_e: just don't include any backport lines at aall
[06:22] <Oris> Toma: YES!
[06:22] <Oris> Toma: :)
[06:22] <bob2> prc: no idea
[06:23] <Toma-> Oris: youre bios controls when to shutdown the CPU....
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> oblib,  mine mount fine.  I dont recall having that 'auto' option in the fstab however
[06:23] <packman_e> sweet changing it to hoary seemed to work
[06:23] <bob2> packman_e: that is a mistake
[06:23] <bimberi> prc: no
[06:23] <packman_e> it is?
[06:23] <bob2> prc: dowsn't look like building the breezy source on haory would be very hard, tho
[06:23] <bob2> packman_e: yes
[06:23] <Toma-> Oris: cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/trip_points
[06:23] <Oris> Toma: No-no... Hmm.. Why then it doesn't shut me down when i'm in Windows and my temp gets to 70?
[06:23] <Jack_B> what's the firewall on ubuntu called?
[06:23] <oblib> Dr_Willis: nalioth had me put it in
[06:23] <bob2> Jack_B: there isn't one, by default
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> oblib,  /dev/sdb1       /media/sdb1     ntfs ro,user 		0	2
[06:24] <packman_e> so what should i do
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> oblib,  is what i use.
[06:24] <prc> bob2, can I do that without erasing everything on my machine?
[06:24] <oblib> Dr_Willis: do you know how I could add a manual mount command later in the boot process? I think the SATA is the last thing the boot does before it's done
[06:24] <Jack_B> bob2, ok time to get ipchains then
[06:24] <bob2> prc: sure, it's like 4 commands
[06:24] <Toma-> Oris: i dont wanna give u bad advice... ive never tinkered with thermal settings. im too scared to melt my cpu. try google or someone else
[06:24] <bob2> Jack_B: no, ipchains has been dead since about 2000
[06:24] <bob2> Jack_B: try firestarter
[06:24] <alisher> packman_e: you dont need any backports to use hoary
[06:24] <Jack_B> bob2, ok thanks
[06:25] <prc> bob2, great.  I'll give it a shot
[06:25] <oblib> Dr_Willis: Do you know what the 0 2 does at the end?
[06:25] <prc> thanks
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> oblib,  Hmm... not sure - could out the sata modules in the  /etc/modules file - so they get loaed earlier perhaps
[06:25] <packman_e> alisher, i was just following the quide
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> oblib,  i forget. :P
[06:25] <alisher> can probably break sth or make your upgrade to breezy later dtroublesom
[06:25] <packman_e> *guide*
[06:25] <Jack_B> bob2, hehehe i got this linux book and was just reading up on ipchains
[06:25] <bob2> prc: add breezy deb-src line for multiverse to /etc/apt/sources.list. sudo apt-get build-dep libmp4v2. apt-get source -b libmp4v2. install resulkting .debs
[06:25] <Oris> Toma: yeah i've done that on SuSE.. But know to change that termal_points file i need at least GET IN UBUNTU os.. Or is there a way how i can run that command from windows?
[06:26] <Oris> *now
[06:26] <oblib> Dr_Willis: "could out" ?
[06:26] <Toma-> hmmm
[06:27] <Oris> Toma: cause it shuts me down - i haven't been in OS itself at all...
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> put :P
[06:27] <Diskgrind> Where can I see my CPU load?
[06:27] <mahangu> why doesnt totem try to download the relevant dvd codes for me?
[06:27] <Diskgrind> lol
[06:27] <Toma-> Oris: do u know how hot your cpu is running?
[06:27] <Diskgrind> How can you see your cpu temp?
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> hmm.. why should totem download stuff for ya >:P
[06:27] <Diskgrind> or load?
[06:28] <oblib> Dr_Willis: would that be module sbp2 or sr_mod?
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> Diskgrind,  several dozen tools can do that.  'sensors' from the shell shows temps.
[06:28] <Oris> Toma: right now 58 - it's about my normal temp(i know it's hot but it runs for a long time like this without problems.)
[06:28] <Toma-> hmm
[06:28] <Toma-> and it shuts down at that temp? :/
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> oblib,  not sure.   put them both in the modules file. :P
[06:29] <Toma-> mine runs at 65... and the trip point on linux is 90
[06:29] <Oris> Toma: it says "Temp reached(61) this is the one i saw and then "power goes down"
[06:29] <Toma-> weird
[06:29] <oblib> Dr_Willis: those are the modules that are there. Does altering the order change things?
[06:29] <Oris> Toma: that's what i want my trip points to set on - 90's
[06:29] <Diskgrind> Dr_Willis  where do I find sensors at?
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> oblib,  i wouldent think so,
[06:30] <Toma-> Oris: try acpi=off at the bootline
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> Diskgrind,  its a text command. use it from the shell - if its not installed its part of the 'lm-sensors' package
[06:30] <Jack_B> why does mplayer and xmms always freeze when i try to play anything?
[06:30] <Oris> Toma: i know i need a more powerful fan or water cooling system, but there has to be a way to deal with this VIRTUALY ;)
[06:30] <Oris> Toma: what's that gonna do?
[06:31] <Oris> Toma: acpi=off
[06:31] <Diskgrind> Dr_Willis  I am unfamilliar with the shell .... Im very new to this..
[06:31] <Toma-> itll turn off acpi from the kernel so it wont care about cpu temp hopefully.
[06:31] <Oris> Toma: Hmm.. You mean at the GRUB screen?
[06:31] <Travis|H> i take it java runtime environment 1.5 isn't in the repo's either .. as its on that torrent site someone linked earlier
[06:31] <Diskgrind> thanks for the help everyone... brb
[06:31] <Toma-> yep
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> Diskgrind,  well alli can say is that google has a great many "shell tutorials" -   the shell is your friend.. its worth spending an hr or 3 goihg through a few 'bash tutorials'
[06:32] <Oris> Toma: Hmm.. :D ok, i'm gonna try it now ;)
[06:32] <Toma-> select the kernel u want, hit e, and edit the boot line and add acpi=off at the end
[06:32] <Toma-> ok good luck
[06:32] <Oris> Toma: ok, thanks ;)
[06:38] <puff> So, "deswsusp: resume mismatch: version"
[06:38] <dabaR> hi crimsun
[06:38] <puff> Er, "swsusp: resume mismatch: version"
[06:38] <crimsun> dabaR, hi
[06:39] <reter> hi dabar
[06:40] <dabaR> crimsun: what was the command to list what ports are open?
[06:40] <Oris> Toma: :(
[06:40] <Toma-> no love?
[06:40] <Oris> Toma: It says that doesn't recognize acpi=off command...
[06:40] <crimsun> dabaR, netstat -ntl
[06:40] <ryufreak> how do i mount my dvd-rw to get into cd-rom 1?
[06:40] <Toma-> u did add it to the kernel parameters line right?
[06:41] <bob2> haha, same here
[06:41] <chris_> hi, why doesn't font hinting work on ubuntu?
[06:41] <crimsun> chris_, it works great here (Breezy)
[06:41] <Oris> Toma: yes...
[06:41] <bimberi> bob2: must be a cbr thing :)
[06:41] <gigaclon> when is Breezy due to be out?
[06:41] <gigaclon> final?
[06:41] <Toma-> weird.
[06:41] <Oris> Toma: i tried to add it at the top, at the bottom, in the middle.. - no..
[06:42] <robotgeek> chris_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure font-config
[06:42] <bimberi> gigaclon: oct 13
[06:42] <chris_> i've done that
[06:42] <alisher> fontconfig!
[06:42] <Toma-> anyone? how do u turn off acpi from the kernel?
[06:43] <dabaR> Ok, the sad story is...A friend, onto whose computer I installed ubuntu, has received an email from the ISP, saying ports were blocked, due to a security concern. ports 135-139, due to "honey pot" now, I wanna see whether those ports are even open on that computer.
[06:43] <Diskgrind> Toma- Are you still here?
[06:43] <gigaclon> power management doesn't work for me
[06:43] <Toma-> yes not for long tho
[06:44] <nomasteryoda|w> dabaR, huh?
[06:44] <dabaR> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2603 is the output of her netstat -ntl
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> 'noacpi' as a boot time option - works for me - i think
[06:44] <Diskgrind> Toma- I just wanted to say thanks again.. I am in kde now...  cool beans!
[06:44] <nomasteryoda|w> windows uses those ports
[06:44] <Toma-> awesome
[06:44] <dell500> how do you make graphs in openoffice?? :)
[06:44] <Toma-> Oris: there u go, 'noacpi'
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> not tobe confused with 'noapic'
[06:44] <Toma-> stick that in kernel parameters
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> :P which is sometimes ALSO needed
[06:44] <Toma-> oic.....
[06:44] <Diskgrind> Toma- I am not used to the font sizes and will really have to find a happy medium.. though
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> edit the grub boot menu when its booted. (hit e)
[06:45] <Toma-> Diskgrind: mess around with control centre
[06:45] <dabaR> nomasteryoda|w: she uses linux exclusively almost. Ill look into how much she used windows...
[06:45] <MadpilotPPC> how can I get a PPC-based Ubuntu box to play either Real or WMA streaming audio?
[06:45] <Diskgrind> Toma-  I will have to, to be comfortable with kde
[06:45] <Oris> Ahhh... Well, then i'm probably gonna search google...
[06:45] <nomasteryoda|w> dabaR, well if she did not turn on a firewall
[06:45] <vladuz976> which one gets called first, /etc/profile ~/.bashrc? and which one overwrites the path then?
[06:45] <nomasteryoda|w> .... dabaR and uses SMB....
[06:45] <Oris> Toma: thanks though, now at least i know what to look for :)
[06:46] <nomasteryoda|w> since SMB opens those ports for sure
[06:46] <Toma-> Oris: probably best.
[06:46] <Toma-> no problem
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> vladuz976,  the .bashrc will read /etc/profile if its told to do so. (like   source /etc/profile)
[06:46] <vladuz976> I changed the PATH in /etc/profile and rebooted, but it has no effect
[06:46] <nomasteryoda|w> dabaR, recommend Ethereal too
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> vladuz976,  thers also the .bash_profile
[06:46] <nomasteryoda|w> good analysis tool there
[06:46] <crimsun> MadpilotPPC, you can still use w32codecs
[06:46] <robotgeek> crimsun: nope
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> you could just edit the .bashrc and set it how ya want for that user.
[06:46] <MadpilotPPC> crimsun, on a Mac? didn't think I could
[06:46] <Toma-> Oris: i just hope the ubuntu team havent removed the acpi=off option from the kernel or something stupid like that
[06:46] <vladuz976> Dr_Willis, so how come, edititng the PATH in /etc/profile has no effect?
[06:46] <nomasteryoda|w> Dr_Willis, for some reason my .bash_history went by-by at work... all 3 of them
[06:46] <nomasteryoda|w> root's too
[06:47] <nomasteryoda|w> i have no clue why
[06:47] <crimsun> robotgeek, MadpilotPPC, sure. You just have to use the version directly from mplayer's Web site.
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> vladuz976,  it had an effect for me i think.. grep the files in /etc/ see what others are setting the path.
[06:47] <Oris> Toma: i think i found the way.. (Google :D) Gonna try it know ;)
[06:47] <nomasteryoda|w> none has access to the system
[06:47] <robotgeek> MadpilotPPC: beep has a wma plugin. realplayer,install realplayer
[06:47] <nomasteryoda|w> cept me
[06:47] <dabaR> nomasteryoda|w: she does not have the smb installed.
[06:47] <nalioth> MadpilotPPC: you can have the w32codecs., but they dont work
[06:47] <nomasteryoda|w> dabaR, which distro?
[06:47] <dabaR> crimsun: Is that command supposed to list the ports that are open?
[06:47] <nomasteryoda|w> ubuntu?
[06:47] <dabaR> nomasteryoda|w: ubuntu, off course, hoary.
[06:47] <crimsun> dabaR, no, only ones that are listening.
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> nomasteryoda|w,  Hmm... thats a 'sign' that somone may of broke into the system. deleting logs and so forth.
[06:47] <nomasteryoda|w> well, install guarddog and lock those ports..
[06:47] <nomasteryoda|w> Dr_Willis, true
[06:48] <ghostdog> i pushed the reload button in the synaptic package manager, there where packages that failed can i repair therm
[06:48] <nomasteryoda|w> Dr_Willis, base security no doubt
[06:48] <nomasteryoda|w> time to check the rootkit too
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> yeppers
[06:48] <MadpilotPPC> robotgeek, thanks, will try that. No way to get Totem running WMA on PPC?
[06:48] <dabaR> crimsun: I dont see any port numbers out of the output of the command, wanna point it out? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2603
[06:48] <oolon> hi all
[06:49] <robotgeek> MadpilotPPC: not that i know of
[06:49] <Draquito> hey i need plz, i am trying to install openVPN, howTo says that i need Tun/Tap module, im using linux 2.6.10.5 but i can't see that module doing  lsmod, anyone have some time to help me?
[06:49] <Toma-> dabaR: try nmap
[06:49] <oolon> can anyone recomend a avi to mpeg app. I wanna burn a vcd
[06:49] <MadpilotPPC> robotgeek, too bad, I like it when everything runs through one media player...
[06:49] <linner> greetings everyone ;)
[06:49] <nomasteryoda|w> doesn't mencoder (part of mplayer) do that?
[06:50] <nomasteryoda|w> or transcode
[06:50] <vladuz976> Dr_Willis, PATH=~/bin:"${PATH}" change it to PATH=/opt/e17/bin:~/bin:"${PATH}" in .bash_profile if i wanna include /opt/e17/bin to my path?
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> vladuz976,  well you need to EXPORT it.
[06:50] <robotgeek> crimsun: http://mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/README ,it says "Please note that most codecs only work on Intel x86 compatible PCs."
[06:50] <oolon> thanx nomasteryoda|w
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> i think for ine..
[06:51] <vladuz976> Dr_Willis, but then it will only stay for this terminal, next time i log in it's gone
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> Normally i do a 'export PATH=$PATH:new/path/here
[06:51] <crimsun> robotgeek, yeah, it seems that wm9 won't play on ppc
[06:51] <robotgeek> MadpilotPPC: mmy personal favourite for the moment is amaro for mp3's
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> the .bash_profile gets read Only by login shells normally. the .bashrc gets read by all the starting shells.
[06:52] <Toma-> nmap os fingerprinting is the bomb :)
[06:52] <oolon> going with transcode
[06:52] <robotgeek> crimsun: you can build it if you like, apparently..http://nanocrew.net/2005/09/01/compiling-vlc/ thanks to dvd jon
[06:53] <Jack_B> where should kdeveloper be after installation?
[06:53] <ryufreak> hey oen of my apps froze, how do i close
[06:53] <ryufreak> one*
[06:53] <nomasteryoda|w> oolon, cool
[06:53] <Jack_B> ryufreak, kill it in console
[06:53] <nomasteryoda|w> there is a qt frontend and i think a gtk one
[06:53] <Toma-> Jack_B: under the development menu of your Kmenu
[06:53] <dabaR> Toma-: ok, well I do nmap -p 1-500 localhost, and I get http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2604 would you mind interpreting the output for me? I think it says only open ports are those listed, other ports from 1-500 are closed, correct?
[06:53] <nomasteryoda|w> for transcode stuff
[06:53] <Jack_B> ryufreak, type in ps -A, look for the name of the app, then type in kill [pid] 
[06:53] <Jack_B> thanks toma-
[06:54] <crimsun> robotgeek, yeah, but I'm working within the framework of universe atm
[06:54] <Toma-> dabaR: what are u running on this pc?
[06:54] <robotgeek> crimsun: :)
[06:54] <bobot> Hello there... Anyone upgraded ubuntu 5.04 to 5.10 using the instructions from ubuntuguide.org?
[06:54] <ryufreak> ps?
[06:54] <linner> has anyone see this error when doing a modprobe ndiswrapper: FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[06:54] <dabaR> Toma-: why? a ftp, ssh, and apache servers.
[06:54] <robotgeek> linner: sudo?
[06:54] <Toma-> and a mail server?
[06:54] <nalioth> bobot: ubuntuguide is poison
[06:54] <linner> robotgeek:  nope i'm in root
[06:54] <nalioth> linner: that is a common error
[06:54] <ghostdog> i pushed the reload button in the synaptic package manager, there where packages that failed can i repair therm ?
[06:54] <linner> nalioth:  it is?
[06:55] <Jack_B> ryufreak, typing ps -A will list all the programs running
[06:55] <bobot> nalioth: why?
[06:55] <MadpilotPPC> !+ubuntuguide
[06:55] <nalioth> ghostdog: you can reload all you like
[06:55] <linner> i googled it and the only thing i could come up with was in portugese
[06:55] <ubotu> from memory, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[06:55] <Jack_B> find out the process id for the frozen app then kill it
[06:55] <ryufreak> Jack_B: in a terminal?
[06:55] <dabaR> Toma-: no, I dont think so, altho...that says otherwise... when I scan the domain name of the computer, so, blah.blah.blah instead of localhost, the 25 port is shown as closed.
[06:55] <Jack_B> ryufreak, yes
[06:55] <Toma-> dabaR: well it should all be good then
[06:56] <dabaR> dabaR: good being as I said?
[06:56] <ghostdog> i did but i saw sum packages that failed to be installed
[06:56] <Toma-> u could always add port 25 to iptables and close it up
[06:56] <ryufreak> i hope i choose the right one
[06:56] <ghostdog> nalioth i did but i saw sum packages that failed to be installed
[06:56] <bob2> dude
[06:56] <bob2> do not use netsta unless you know how to interpret it's output
[06:56] <bobot> nalioth: thanks nalioth
[06:56] <bob2> postfix is NOT listening to other machines by default
[06:56] <linner> nalioth:  can you point me in a direction where i can fix it?
[06:56] <brownie17> what is colony 5?
[06:56] <dabaR> bob2: me?
[06:57] <linner> brownie17:  the newest  build of ubuntu breezy
[06:57] <brownie17> linner, thanks
[06:57] <linner> brownie17:  sure
[06:57] <ryufreak>   PID TTY          TIME CMD
[06:57] <Toma-> bob2: better safe than sorry?
[06:57] <nalioth> linner: ask bob2 for a pointer, i'm not up on ndiswrapper, just have seen the error in here quite often
[06:57] <ryufreak> those are what's listed
[06:57] <Jack_B> ryufreak, what's the name of the app that froze?
[06:57] <shookie> sup
[06:57] <ryufreak> xmms =/
[06:57] <linner> nalioth:  okey dokey :)
[06:57] <Jack_B> ryufreak, type in ps -A
[06:58] <robotgeek> ryufreak: type killall xmms
[06:58] <linner> bob2:  what do you know about this error:  FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[06:58] <brownie17> anyone know any video editing software that come with an install script? or on of them auto packages?
[06:58] <bob2> linner: that seems to be a highly useless error indicating that you need a newer version of ndiswrapper
[06:58] <bob2> brownie17: kino
[06:58] <ryufreak> Ohh, capital A, not lowercase
[06:58] <nalioth> brownie17: cinepaint
[06:58] <Toma-> brownie17: avidemux
[06:58] <linner> bob2:  nice.
[06:58] <Jack_B> robotgeek: xmms freezes on my computer too, do you know why?
[06:58] <shookie> Listen im having an issue with my usb camera. I cant seem to resolve it. Camera is a Kodak DX3500 and the error ... Cannot claim USB something
[06:58] <ryufreak> Jack_B, thanks
[06:58] <Jack_B> robotgeek: happens everytime i try to play a file
[06:58] <crimsun> Jack_B, are you using the esound output?
[06:58] <linner> bob2:  just synaptic it?
[06:59] <Jack_B> crimsun: esound?
[06:59] <robotgeek> Jack_B: there's was a xmms bug on x86, i dunno if it has been fixed. anyways, use beep-media-player!
[06:59] <crimsun> Jack_B, in Preferences
[06:59] <crimsun> robotgeek, err, which?
[06:59] <Jack_B> crimsun: if i am should it work?
[06:59] <dabaR> bob2: well, did you read what my issue is? I got a email from ISP saying ports 42, 135-139, 445 are being blocked due to a security concern they have. so, I used nmap to scan what ports are open, and it did not list any of those as being open. ISP miscalculated the security threat? or alternatively, when I boot windows, then the security threat is there?
[06:59] <robotgeek> crimsun: on bug day, there was one. i dunno if it was fixed
[06:59] <bob2> linner: no
[06:59] <linner> bob2:  oh...
[06:59] <ryufreak> so what's the best media player to use, if not xmms?
[06:59] <crimsun> Jack_B, depends if you're using standard gnome audio settings
[07:00] <linner> bob2:  what should i do then?
[07:00] <bob2> dabaR: no, that's just a normal misunderstanding of how TCP works
[07:00] <crimsun> robotgeek, the free() stack smasher?
[07:00] <linner> bob2:  go to sourceforge?
[07:00] <bob2> linner: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto
[07:00] <linner> bob2:  i've got that
[07:00] <Jack_B> crimsun: ok i just switched to esound uoutput
[07:00] <robotgeek> crimsun: not sure, am a ppc guy. i was testing bugs on ppc. din't bother with that one
[07:00] <crimsun> robotgeek, that was due to xmms-flac and has since been fixed.
[07:00] <robotgeek> crimsun: oh okay, noted
[07:01] <bob2> dabaR: you cannot detect that block from within your house
[07:01] <bob2> linner: you read that exact page?
[07:01] <linner> bob2:  yes
[07:01] <dabaR> bob2: so, scan for it from here?
[07:01] <dabaR> I mean, from another computer?
[07:01] <linner> bob2:  that's what i've been following up to this point
[07:01] <bob2> linner: ouch
[07:01] <linner> bob2:  i kmnow
[07:01] <linner> know that is
[07:01] <Jack_B> crimsun: OMG it doesn't freeze anymore, i lub joo
[07:01] <bob2> dabaR: it doesn't matter
[07:02] <dabaR> bob2: well, what, are the ports open and the computer infested, or not, to be blunt...?
[07:02] <bob2> dabaR: no, it has nothing to do with you
[07:02] <Jack_B> crimsun: do i have to change mplayer's output to esound as well? because that app always freezes on me as well
[07:02] <crimsun> Jack_B, -ao esd
[07:03] <dabaR> bob2: so they are wrong about the ports being open, or it was windows, am I understanding this properly?
[07:03] <bob2> dabaR: no, you're misunderstanding how tcp networks work
[07:03] <dabaR> ok. so its still possible that my computer is a threat?
[07:03] <bob2> of course
[07:03] <dabaR> bob2: what should I do?
[07:03] <bob2> if your isp claims otherwise, they're lying or stupid
[07:03] <bob2> dabaR: do nothing
[07:04] <dabaR> they say I am a threat, and they blocked my ports. so they are correct?
[07:04] <bob2> dabaR: keep up to date with security patches, dont' run crap from untrusted sources and you wont' have issues
[07:04] <Jack_B> crimsun: err do i type that in console or something
[07:04] <bob2> dabaR: no, they didn't
[07:04] <philc> what is the command that is run to hibernate in breezy? it's not /usr/sbin/hibernate, that's swsusp2 apparently
[07:04] <crimsun> Jack_B, yes
[07:04] <vladuz976> is skype in any repository?
[07:04] <dabaR> bob2: sorry, I dont get it. THey blocked my ports.
[07:04] <crimsun> vladuz976, no
[07:04] <bob2> philc: sudo /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh
[07:04] <bob2> dabaR: dude
[07:04] <philc> bob2: thanks
[07:04] <dabaR> Or they said they did, anyhow.
[07:04] <bob2> dabaR: they blocked those ports coming into their network to *everyone*
[07:05] <Jack_B> crimsun: -ao, command not found?
[07:05] <shawarma> Jack_B: mplayer -ao esd
[07:05] <shookie> im having problems with importing photos from my camera. Seems like i cant resolve the issue. I checked online with no avail.
[07:05] <Jack_B> shawarma, ok thanks
[07:05] <dabaR> bob2: ok, whatever, I dont get it, but, I do do what you said above, update the system, and do not install crap. thats all that matters. as long as you say I am to do nothing...
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. ever since ive gotten my wireless working (wlan0 is not 'up' at the moment) on my wireed network - the pings and other responses are real real slow..  Not sure what to look at to begin trouble shooting
[07:06] <bimberi> ubotu tell vladuz976 about skype
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> 64 bytes from 66.35.250.151: icmp_seq=1 ttl=50 time=74.9 ms
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> 
[07:06] <bob2> dabaR: it's very hard to explain what they did without explaining how tcp/ip works in general, sorry
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> anyone  know if the wireless driver/config/setup could be messing with the system when im not using wireless at the moment?
[07:06] <bob2> very unlikely
[07:06] <bob2> unless it's a ipv6 routing thing
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> bob2,  Hmm.. thats possible,
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> I dont use ipv6 at all.. guess i check the wiki on how to remove it properly
[07:07] <shookie> anyone?
[07:07] <dabaR> bob2: ya, ok, I got that. Its just that that place where they sent the email to is on the same ISP as I am, and I did not get an email.
[07:07] <vladuz976> bimberi, thanks i added that but now i can't install skype because it depends on "libqt3c102-mt" which is not available
[07:08] <bob2> dabaR: then ask them if theyre doing it to everyone or not
[07:08] <Travis|H> gah ok well i have that w32codec .deb ... i installed it doing "dpkg --install w32codec~.deb" and it seems to have installed .. but Totem still won't play WMV's
[07:08] <oneifreak> Travis|H: using totem-xine?
[07:08] <Travis|H> gstreamer
[07:08] <dabaR> bob2: it says in the email that my computer is suspected. and that they blocked ports on my connection to their network.
[07:08] <deFrysk> erm w32codecs needs totem-xine
[07:09] <shookie> ??
[07:09] <Travis|H> ok then .. that makes sense
[07:09] <Travis|H> thanks :)
[07:09] <nalioth> Travis|H: newer microsoft media wont play
[07:09] <shawarma> shookie: What kind of camera?
[07:09] <shookie> having prorblems importing photos .. could use someones help
[07:09] <shookie> Kodak DX3500
[07:09] <ryufreak> anyone know how to install skins on xmms?
[07:09] <vladuz976> libqt3c102-mt is not available in breezy?
[07:09] <shawarma> shookie: Ok. What's the exact problem?
[07:09] <bob2> vladuz976: indeed, it's called libqt3-mt
[07:10] <dabaR> ryufreak: add a .skins dir in your .xmms and put the skins there.
[07:10] <dabaR> or just skins in .xmms
[07:10] <Jack_B> crimsun: did mplayer and xmms freeze because the default sound drivers were dodgy?
[07:10] <dabaR> no, it was trying to use a sound server that is not running on your computer, Jack_B .
[07:10] <shawarma> Jack_B: No, they were just waiting for the sound device to become available.
[07:10] <deFrysk> ryufreak, put the packages in .xmms/path/to/Skins
[07:10] <deFrysk> ryufreak, so do not unpack them
[07:10] <shookie> it seems like it knows what camera
[07:10] <shookie> just doesnt want to download
[07:10] <shookie> i tried several things
[07:10] <shookie> but im all ears
[07:10] <deFrysk> ryufreak, or sudo apt-get install xms-skins
[07:10] <deFrysk> ryufreak, or sudo apt-get install xmms-skins
[07:10] <Jack_B> ok cool fellas
[07:11] <ryufreak> oic
[07:11] <ryufreak> i couldn't find the xmms path
[07:11] <deFrysk> or is it xmms-themes nowadays ?
[07:11] <shawarma> shookie: You need to explain the "just doesnt want to download" bt..
[07:11] <shookie> well I plug it in .. auto import window comes up... my camera's icon is there while its searching for drivers....
[07:11] <shookie> sorry
[07:11] <deFrysk> ryufreak,  .xmms/Skins is the correct path
[07:11] <shookie> Cannot claim usb port or something like that
[07:12] <B_166-ER-X> 1152 oe 1280, that is the question (17inch)
[07:12] <deFrysk> ryufreak, note the dot (.) it stands for hidden file
[07:13] <shookie> i did it under root as well
[07:13] <shawarma> shookie: Doesn't ring a bell, sorry.
[07:14] <shawarma> Gotta run!
[07:14] <bimberi> vladuz976: ah, there's a skype package for breezy here - http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[07:14] <bob2> Seveas: sure you have permission to redistribute skype?
[07:14] <shookie> An error occurred in the io-library ('Could not claim the USB device'): Could not claim interface 0 (Operation not permitted). Make sure no other program or kernel module (such as sdc2xx, stv680, spca50x) is using the device and you have read/write access to the device.
[07:14] <shookie> *** Error (-53: 'Could not claim the USB device') ***
[07:14] <mike__> I have a question about installing files in Linux. (n00b)
[07:15] <shookie> thats my error
[07:15] <deFrysk> !tell mike__ about ask
[07:15] <mike__> what is this ask
[07:15] <shookie> it freezes that command
[07:15] <ryufreak> deFrysk, thanks I got it installed
[07:15] <bob2> mike__: it means "please juats ask your question"
[07:15] <deFrysk> mike__, read what ubotu said
[07:16] <mike__> shit, ok
[07:16] <deFrysk> :D
[07:16] <mike__> it isnt so easy as clicking an exe file
[07:16] <mike__> what steps do i take
[07:16] <dabaR> synaptic is used to install programs in ubuntu.
[07:16] <mike__> i know i use the terminal
[07:16] <bob2> mike__: what are you trying to install?
[07:16] <dabaR> mike__: its easier. read the other url that ubotu sent you.
[07:16] <mike__> but the install files that came with the programs confused me
[07:16] <bob2> mike__: generally you do not use the terminal to install things
[07:16] <ryufreak> deFrysk, do you know why the icon of xmms doesn't show up?
[07:16] <deFrysk> ! tell mike about repositoreis
[07:16] <ubotu> deFrysk: I give up, what is it?
[07:16] <mike__> ok
[07:16] <mike__> thanks
[07:16] <deFrysk> !tel mike about synaptic
[07:16] <ubotu> deFrysk: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[07:17] <bob2> mike__: you need to be more specific and tell us what you're tryign to install
[07:17] <deFrysk> !tell mike about synaptic
[07:17] <deFrysk> !tell mike__  about apt-get
[07:17] <dabaR> mike__: and, you usually do not install things from somewhere, but only from the ubuntu oficial repositories.
[07:17] <bob2> deFrysk: that's not very helpful
[07:18] <deFrysk> bob2, sorry , havent had coffee jet ;s
[07:18] <mike__> thanks guys, gives me something to read... i may be back..
[07:19] <dabaR> mike__: what are you installing, tho?
[07:19] <mike__> i wanted XFCE
[07:19] <ryufreak> is there anyway to integrate a terminal onto my desktop?
[07:19] <mike__> and Winamp
[07:19] <dabaR> its in the repos
[07:19] <vladuz976> bimberi, thanks
[07:19] <dabaR> winamp is called xmms in linux.
[07:19] <dabaR> hehe
[07:19] <mike__> just a bunch of software
[07:19] <bob2> ryufreak: integrate, how?
[07:19] <mike__> wanted to tinker with it all night
[07:19] <deFrysk> mike__, linux uses xmms or beep-media-player , not winamp
[07:19] <bob2> mike__: normally you just select them in synaptic and hit "install"
[07:19] <ryufreak> like have a terminal box right in my desktop itself
[07:20] <mike__> there is a winamp player for linux..
[07:20] <ryufreak> where i can actually type into it
[07:20] <bob2> ryufreak: why?
[07:20] <mike__> i wanted the internet tv
[07:20] <bob2> ryufreak: how is that different to having a terminal window?
[07:20] <ryufreak> i hate constantly opening up a terminal, or alt tabing to it
[07:20] <ryufreak> especially when i have 10 apps running
[07:20] <bob2> ryufreak: how do you plan to access it if it's "in the desktop itself"?
[07:21] <dabaR> ryufreak: there is a command line applet in right click on panel>add to panel...
[07:21] <dabaR> bob2: maybe that is what he will like.
[07:21] <dabaR> or a non-yoda speak version of that sentence
[07:21] <ryufreak> yes i know that one, but i'm talking about a terminal directly on my desktop
[07:21] <ryufreak> directly on my background
[07:21] <bob2> ryufreak: how would you access it?
[07:21] <AdmiralSenn> wahoo, huge problems
[07:22] <ryufreak> click here to hide all windows + show desktop =/
[07:22] <AdmiralSenn> I'm currently on my livecd because I managed to break something important
[07:22] <Oris> Toma: :DDDDDDDDD
[07:22] <bob2> ryufreak: why don't you just use a seperate desktop for it?
[07:22] <ryufreak> i was wondering if it was integratable though
[07:22] <bob2> ryufreak: then it's one less click
[07:22] <ryufreak> what do you mean?
[07:22] <AdmiralSenn> I was using Partition Magic to resize some of my partitions in windows (and now I know it's a bad idea to do that)
[07:22] <bob2> ryufreak: do you know about virtual desktops?
[07:22] <AdmiralSenn> and now grub tries to load but can't find any partitions
[07:22] <AdmiralSenn> but ubuntu setup finds them fine.....
[07:23] <ryufreak> dual monitors?
[07:23] <bob2> ryufreak: no
[07:23] <AdmiralSenn> so I need to reinstall grub and/or fix fstab
[07:23] <Oris> Toma: It works! I found the way :D here: noacpi apm=off acpi=off no-hit and it doesn't monitor temperature!
[07:23] <bob2> ryufreak: look at the bottom of your screen.  see 4 squares in a row?
[07:23] <deFrysk> ryufreak, the 4 squares in your panel
[07:23] <ryufreak> right, oh i see
[07:23] <MadpilotPPC> ryufreak, by default Ubuntu has four virtual desktops running...
[07:23] <bob2> AdmiralSenn: chroot into your system fro mthe live cd, run "sudo update-grub"
[07:23] <bob2> ryufreak: click on the second one
[07:23] <Oris> Toma: thank you - bye
[07:23] <ryufreak> yes i see that
[07:23] <bob2> ryufreak: clicking on the first one brings you back where you are
[07:23] <ryufreak> that'll work lol, thanks
[07:24] <bob2> ryufreak: you can bind keys to switch, too
[07:24] <ryufreak> how so?
[07:24] <Toma-> cool
[07:24] <bob2> ryufreak: I have 12 desktops, each only has one app on it; ctrl-f5 gets me my editor
[07:24] <deFrysk> ryufreak, you can even set your mousewheel to switch desktops (forgot howto tho)
[07:24] <bob2> ust like I left it
[07:24] <AdmiralSenn> bob2, uhh... how do I use chroot?
[07:24] <MadpilotPPC> deFrysk, ryufreak hover your cursor over the virtual desktop switcher, and scroll your mouse wheel...
[07:25] <dabaR> 12 desktops heh
[07:25] <bob2> AdmiralSenn: chroot /wherever/your/root/partition/is/mounted
[07:25] <AdmiralSenn> I'm not sure how this will help since the livecd isn't seeing any hard drive partitions at the moment.....
[07:25] <bob2> dabaR: I'd have more but I ran out of function keys ;)
[07:25] <MadpilotPPC> I run 6 usually
[07:25] <ryufreak> i see
[07:25] <bob2> ryufreak: system -> preferences -> keybdingins
[07:25] <deFrysk> MadpilotPPC, Ah :) that one I did not mean but works fine , I ment the xfce4 way
[07:25] <dabaR> ah, yes, the 12 f keys...
[07:26] <ryufreak> keyboard shortcuts?
[07:26] <bitblit> k so if I install ubuntu 5.10 preview, can I upgrade in place when it is released?
[07:26] <dabaR> I dont use that, I roll up windows with the scroll button of the mouse in openbox.
[07:26] <bob2> bitblit: yes
[07:26] <bitblit> bob2, ty
[07:26] <deFrysk> bitblit, yup
[07:26] <Travis|H> hmm so i installed totem-xine ... wmv plays now ... however the browser plugin sort of plays 1-2 seconds of the clip and immediately stops and i can't start it again
[07:26] <jdermer> is there an easy way to upgrade my kernel with ubuntu
[07:26] <bob2> dabaR: try to avoid the mouse as much as possible, plus no scroll wheel on my laptop
[07:26] <bob2> jdermer: upgrade to what?
[07:26] <jdermer> like a newer one i guess
[07:27] <jdermer> im sorta noob so bear with me heh
[07:27] <Travis|H> i need to download the wmv to my hard drive to play it back .. browser plugin is being fussy
[07:27] <bitblit> I'm trying to decide if I should switch from Gentoo to Ubuntu. I'm totally new to linux, and have Gentoo limping along. I'm tired of mapping mouse buttons and compiling sound drivers in my kernel :)
[07:27] <jdermer> Gentoo and Ubuntu are my fav distros
[07:27] <jdermer> Ubuntu is def easier tho
[07:27] <ice_1963> that's apt-get upgrade :0)
[07:27] <bitblit> i take it ubuntu works out of the box more?
[07:27] <AdmiralSenn> bob2, the point is that I don't have any partitions mounted!
[07:27] <bob2> jdermer: why do you want a newer one?
[07:27] <bimberi> Now that is good - I added some extra desktops and presto, extra available keybindings to match!
[07:27] <MadpilotPPC> bitblit, for most installs, yes.
[07:28] <bob2> AdmiralSenn: ok!
[07:28] <jdermer> i like having new stuff
[07:28] <jdermer> but the biggest reason is my video
[07:28] <bosch> 
[07:28] <B_166-ER-X> i have openoffice by default, is it worth installing openoffice2 ?
[07:28] <bob2> jdermer: ubuntu is not for you, then
[07:28] <ice_1963> bob2 hello
[07:28] <JDahl> B_166-ER-X, yes, most definitely
[07:28] <deFrysk> bitblit, using ubuntu would make file very much easyer for you
[07:28] <jdermer> no i mean kernel
[07:28] <jdermer> not in general
[07:28] <deFrysk> file = life
[07:28] <bob2> jdermer: yes, I know; why do you need a newer one?
[07:28] <Hobbsee> B_166-ER-X: as long as you get the most recent version
[07:28] <bosch> http://forum.ubuntu.ru/index.php?topic=847.0
[07:28] <dabaR> Has anyone repartitioned their ntfs hard drive using the live cd? I would like to know how easy, reliable, and what teh steps are that are involved.
[07:29] <jdermer> my video card 3d acceleration is being odd
[07:29] <Hobbsee> B_166-ER-X: the one in the reps are very outdated
[07:29] <jdermer> i think a new kernel may help
[07:29] <bitblit> deFrysk, rofl :)
[07:29] <B_166-ER-X> synaptic list 1.9.79.2
[07:29] <bob2> jdermer: and the card is?
[07:29] <bitblit> what is Colony 5?
[07:29] <Hobbsee> B_166-ER-X: yeah, it's up to 1.9.130
[07:29] <Hobbsee> !colony 5
[07:29] <ubotu> Hobbsee: I don't know
[07:29] <B_166-ER-X> urgh
[07:29] <jdermer> integrated intel i915
[07:29] <Hobbsee> !colony5
[07:29] <ubotu> Hobbsee: I don't know, could you explain it?
[07:29] <deFrysk> bitblit, a pre-version of breezy
[07:29] <bitblit> looks like a different version of 510 that i'm downloading
[07:30] <dabaR> bosch: are you asking a question?
[07:30] <bob2> jdermer: I'd be very surprised if going past 2.6.12 helped
[07:30] <Hobbsee> bitblit: what version are you downloading?
[07:30] <bitblit> says ubuntu-5.10-preview-install-i386.iso
[07:30] <thewayofzen> question:  sound always works in gnome.  in xfce4 fluxbox or blackbox it always seems as though it stops working and will not work unless i type  est & into a command window.  is there a way to ensure that the sound server starts automatically
[07:30] <bitblit> not sure what breezy is
[07:31] <Travis|H> bitblit: breezy is not officially out yet .. the current stable release is called Hoary Hedgehog
[07:31] <Travis|H> Breezy Badger is slated to come out some time in October .. but there was a Preview Release (release candidate basically) that came out earlier this month
[07:31] <cafuego_> !info beagle breezy
[07:31] <ubotu> beagle: (Desktop search tool), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.0.13.4-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 777 kB, Installed size: 2668 kB
[07:32] <Travis|H> and the latest test version (and likely last to be compiled before the final version is out) is Colony 5
[07:32] <cafuego_> Travis|H: 2 days ago, Colony5.
[07:32] <bitblit> Travis|H, so what should i get for a new install?
[07:32] <mae> Linux ROCKS!
[07:32] <jdermer> bob2, can u tell me how to upgrade the kernel tho
[07:32] <Toma-> mae: no, i do.
[07:32] <jdermer> id like to try
[07:32] <bob2> jdermer: you can't, in general
[07:32] <bob2> jdermer: not unless you really know what you're doing
[07:32] <cafuego_> lying bot
[07:32] <mae> Has anyone given banshee a whirl? it is pretty buggy right now but looks very promising, there are so many features already in the short time it has been released.
[07:32] <Travis|H> bitblit: well ... for guaranteed stability and compatibility with the unofficial ubuntu starter guide ... 5.04 (Hoary Hedgehog)
[07:32] <Amaranth> 0.0.13? i thought beagle 0.1.0 was out with huge ammounts of fixes
[07:32] <bob2> jdermer: if you're having issues with the breezy kernel, you really do need to file a bug
[07:32] <thewayofzen> jdermer,  i tried to brave it and i ended up with a big mess of kernel panick.
[07:33] <ice_1963> with breezy can i jest install xfce4 not gnome?
[07:33] <jdermer> ive recompiled a kernel before man
[07:33] <bitblit> I'm confused because i have two pages up, both for Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy Badger), one says Preview, one says Colony CD 5
[07:33] <bob2> jdermer: good for you
[07:33] <jdermer> im just asking if theres an easy ubuntu way like with gentoo
[07:33] <bob2> jdermer: the ubuntu kernel is pretty tightly coupled to the userland in ubuntu
[07:33] <[LethAL] > ice_1963, Yes...
[07:33] <Travis|H> bitblit: well if you are going to install Breezy, install Colony CD 5
[07:33] <bob2> jdermer: sure, make-kpkg
[07:33] <ice_1963> how
[07:33] <cafuego_> !info beagle breezy
[07:33] <mae> Is breezy still on schedule for october, or is it delayed?
[07:33] <bob2> jdermer: you're on your own when it breaks, tho
[07:33] <bitblit> Travis|H, k ty
[07:33] <ubotu> beagle: (Desktop search tool), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.1.0-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 827 kB, Installed size: 3052 kB
[07:33] <Jack_B> where can i open kdevelop if i'm using gnome?
[07:33] <thewayofzen> bob2,  advice on having esd start auto matically in fluxbox/blackbox/xfce4  id rather not have to type esd & into console.. gnome sound ALWAYS works.. id kinda like that for any WM i use.
[07:33] <cafuego_> Yeah, thought so.
[07:34] <vladuz976> Seveas, what does your ubuntu-apt-utils do?
[07:34] <Amaranth> hehe
[07:34] <ice_1963> jest tip server
[07:34] <Toma-> thewayofzen: tinker with your .xfce settings
[07:34] <bitblit> Travis|H, I take it colony 5 is just an updated preview build?
[07:34] <Amaranth> cafuego_ apt-get update? :)
[07:34] <Travis|H> bitblit: yea
[07:34] <cafuego_> Amaranth: sudo rm /var/lib/blootbot/ubuntu/*breezy*
[07:34] <Toma-> thewayofzen: also, ask in #xfce
[07:34] <bitblit> Travis|H, cool, ty.
[07:34] <bob2> thewayofzen: I'd just make a ~/.xsession and run everything out of that
[07:34] <AdmiralSenn> so anyone have any idea how to get back into my hard drive?
[07:35] <Amaranth> *groan*, xchat won't filter out Travis|H so it beeps when someone says his nick
[07:35] <Jack_B> hey fellas, how can i access kdevelop using the gnome gui?
[07:35] <Toma-> poor Travis|H
[07:35] <Travis|H> ?
[07:35] <AdmiralSenn> I suppose I could just reformat my partitions and lose all my data
[07:35] <Toma-> Jack_B: just run the command
[07:35] <AdmiralSenn> which I'm not going to do..
[07:36] <Jack_B> ok
[07:36] <Amaranth> Jack_B: install it from synaptic then it should either be in the menus or you can open a console and run it from there
[07:36] <jdermer> bob2, i got 2.6.10-5 kernel right now
[07:36] <jdermer> how can i get to the .12
[07:36] <Travis|H> Amaranth: why is it beeping when someone says my nickname?
[07:36] <ryufreak> anyone have any luck installing an ati x800 series pci-e card?
[07:36] <Jack_B> amaranth: it's not displayed in the menus
[07:36] <jdermer> im using 5.04 not 5.10
[07:36] <dabaR> Travis|H: thats his name.
[07:36] <Jack_B> Amaranth, i've already installed btw
[07:36] <Amaranth> Travis|H: I have it beep when someone says 'travis', seeing how that's my first name. :)
[07:36] <Travis|H> oh i see :)
[07:37] <Amaranth> i just turned it off for now, i'll beat xchat into working right later
[07:37] <ice_1963> i'm running kernel-2.6.12-1
[07:37] <bob2> jdermer: wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryUpgradeNotes
[07:37] <Jack_B> holy crap kdevelop pwns my 128mb sd ram
[07:37] <Travis|H> anywho .. i'm having a bit of a funky issue .. i'm using totem-xine, w32codecs, and the Totem Mozilla Plugin 1.2.0 ..... when i open up to a page with an embeded wmv the video loads up fine and plays for a very short blip (1-2 seconds) and then stops .. and it won't let me hit the play button
[07:38] <Travis|H> i get a short blip of video and sound .. and totem can play the file fine from my hard drive
[07:38] <Travis|H> just the plugin is being fishy ....... anyone encounter that .. or have any idea how i might fix it?
[07:38] <henke> Travis|H, I have the same issue. I havn't looked for a solution though.
[07:38] <Travis|H> hmmm well its nice knowing im not alone .. thanks henke
[07:38] <Toma-> use mplayer plugin
[07:38] <Cryptid> I Need Java2 Runtime From where Do i get it I cannot find it in Synaptic (i added the multiverse repos also)
[07:39] <MadpilotPPC> !tell Cryptid about java
[07:39] <dabaR> Cryptid: Sun's java is proprietary, and no other organization than SUn can distribute it, legally.
[07:40] <cafuego_> Cryptid: Use java-package. See wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[07:40] <esac> what can i install to control power options, cpu frequency, suspend, hibernate, etc... ?
[07:40] <MadpilotPPC> Is there no RealPlayer for PPC hardware?
[07:41] <bitblit> MadpilotPPC, doesn't vlc play that format?
[07:41] <Chousuke> MadpilotPPC: Probably not.
[07:41] <tristanmike> Can anyone help me with file transfer for a Yahoo account in Gaim, as in I can't. It appears that everything goes fine, no errors on my end, but when my yahoo friend get's the file, even a small screenshot png, it says it's an html on the other end and wont open
[07:41] <nalioth> MadpilotPPC: sorry no
[07:41] <nalioth> MadpilotPPC: we are red headed step children
[07:41] <MadpilotPPC> nalioth, meh. Any way to play Real streams, then?
[07:41] <tristanmike> lol
[07:42] <dabaR> realplayer for mac osx exists...
[07:42] <ryufreak> what does codec fall under in synaptic?
[07:42] <cafuego_> !codecs
[07:42] <ubotu> somebody said codecs was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[07:42] <Chousuke> The only OS on PPC that works for all that proprietary stuff is OS X :P
[07:42] <MadpilotPPC> ryufreak, use the Search button, it's faster than messing with the categories
[07:42] <ryufreak> good diea
[07:42] <ryufreak> idea*
[07:43] <crafteh> when i click the logout button and the background is fading, my mouse starts to jump a lot. does this happen to anyone else? whenever the fading occurs it does...
[07:43] <MadpilotPPC> My favourite local radio station streams only in Real & WMA (actually asp-something) and I can't play either on this machine! :(
[07:44] <bugz_> is the livna ATI driver have 3d support?
[07:44] <cafuego_> MadpilotPPC: Email them and ask them why they don't podcast.
[07:44] <pussfeller> REAL AND wma can ussually be played
[07:44] <MadpilotPPC> cafuego, I'd settle for a basic MP3 stream, frankly
[07:44] <pussfeller> real releases a linux client, helix player or something
[07:44] <Travis|H> so XMMS from the repositors uses gtk1 to draw the menu's .. is there a gtk2 version of xmms .. same question for gmplayer ... it seems rhythmbox and totem are gonna have to be pushed aside because they're not co-operating with me
[07:45] <ryufreak> i just searched realplayer, and i think the command is sudo apt-get install realplayer
[07:45] <pussfeller> you can get it from their website too
[07:45] <ice_1963> it is
[07:45] <ryufreak> MadpilotPCC, try it, and see if it works out for you
[07:45] <MadpilotPPC> ryufreak, PPC machines use a different repository to x86 machines - I've already searched for it...
[07:46] <ryufreak> oh
[07:46] <mae> Personally I think java is dead.
[07:46] <mae> not yet, but eventually..
[07:46] <AdmiralSenn> so.... say I'm trying to mount a reiser partition
[07:46] <AdmiralSenn> what's the command?
[07:46] <AdmiralSenn> -t reiserfs?
[07:46] <mae> but it did have a place in pushing forth alot of new technologies building on its innovative ideas
[07:46] <Chousuke> mae: It's widely used still :/
[07:47] <MadpilotPPC> Java is going to be a long time dying, I think...
[07:47] <mae> Chousuke, yah, i know its not dead now, but what I mean is that I think from this point it will just stabilise for awhile and then decline..
[07:47] <alisher> does anyone know how to make xchat play sounds. Where is the directory with sound files?
[07:47] <mae> with all the new portable languages like ruby/python/.NET and their cil and il
[07:48] <mae> perhaps the future for java will be putting it on cil/il and using it like that
[07:48] <ryufreak> SDK will always be building servers for big companies, it won't die for a while
[07:48] <pussfeller> cil il?
[07:48] <mae> common language infrastructure and intermediate language a la mono and ms .net
[07:48] <JDahl> mae, all technologies eventually are replaced
[07:49] <mae> JDahl, I disagree, C has been around for a looong time and is still widely used for many projects
[07:49] <MadpilotPPC> dog, FF has an awkward method of changing external app calls - Opera is so much easier...
[07:49] <mae> mainly because it is a simple low-overhead language which makes it play nice with many other software
[07:50] <crafteh> when i click the logout button and the background is fading, my mouse starts to jump a lot. does this happen to anyone else? whenever the fading occurs it does...
[07:50] <tristanmike> any help with Gaim?
[07:50] <vbgunz> hey everyone... I think I found a bug with GPA for GnuPG... Can someone confirm?
[07:50] <Cryptid> cafuego & Madpilot i am getting this error when i try to download Java "E: Package j2re1.4 has no installation candidate" as mentioned on wiki.ubuntu.com this command dosent work "sudo apt-get install j2re1.4"
[07:50] <dabaR> how do you make a server, such as gdm start when you boot? something along the lines of sudo invoke-rc.d gdm add
[07:50] <nalioth> MadpilotPPC: most of the linux things (like realplayer) are compiled for x86
[07:50] <dabaR> It does not start at boot atm, but can be started from the console.
[07:50] <vbgunz> dabaR: /etc/init.d/gdm start?
[07:50] <vladuz976> Seveas, how can i get access to download w3codecs?
[07:51] <dabaR> vbgunz: that would just start it at that time. I want it to start every time I boot.
[07:51] <vbgunz> sudo first*
[07:51] <MadpilotPPC> nalioth, I'm finding that out... I'll be glad to get back to my own (x86) machine in a week or two...
[07:51] <mae> JDahl, but ya in the long run, sure.. who knows, maybe in the future all processors will have a builtin coprocessor that translates some common IL which would be the zen of portability and performance :) a hardware solution for translating
[07:51] <vbgunz> vbgunz: oh, not on that level...
[07:51] <dabaR> stop talking to yuorself:P
[07:51] <vladuz976> bimberi, i can't use seveas' skype coz it depends on w3codecs and i need authentication to download that
[07:51] <nalioth> Cryptid: hoary or breezy?
[07:51] <vbgunz> can you maybe once logged in go to system > preference > session > startup and config it there?
[07:52] <nalioth> MadpilotPPC: yes you will then have an appreciation for what we PPC users go thru who choose to run linux
[07:52] <Cryptid> nalioth, hoary
[07:52] <ryufreak> i still can't get these codec's to work.....
[07:52] <vbgunz> can someone maybe help me confirm a bug with GPA for GnuPG?
[07:52] <ryufreak> libxklavier is the only codec in synaptic
[07:52] <nalioth> Cryptid: get your hot java here http://www.giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/
[07:53] <tristanmike> hot java, lol, that's funny for so many reasons
[07:53] <dabaR> vbgunz: heh. that would make gdm start after I log into my gnome-session
[07:53] <MadpilotPPC> ryufreak, which codecs are you trying to get?
[07:53] <ryufreak> divx, ac3, and something to run subs
[07:54] <MadpilotPPC> ryufreak, no idea what a sub is, but the first two should work with w32codecs, AFAIK
[07:54] <Cryptid> nalioth, Thanx now i can install Azureus,,, ne can u tell me y did they remove w32codes and java from synaptic
[07:54] <vbgunz> dabaR: thanks... I am learning from your problem too ;)
[07:54] <ryufreak> subtitle = subs
[07:54] <vbgunz> dabaR: Hope you get it fixed
[07:54] <tristanmike> Cryptid, they were removed from the repos, yes
[07:54] <vbgunz> dabaR: how do you think that happened?
[07:54] <Travis|H> ryufreak: VLC supports subtitles
[07:54] <Chousuke> ryufreak: just install VLC
[07:55] <Cryptid> tristanmike, but Y?
[07:55] <ryufreak> that in synaptic?
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> W32codecs -->  http://www.giannaros.org/tor/bt/
[07:55] <Chousuke> yes.
[07:55] <oga> If I place a order of a few ubuntu cd's at shipit, will the hoary cd's be shipped, or breezy? (in october though)
[07:55] <vbgunz> hey everyone, I am downloading k3b because I need a burner... is this ok?
[07:55] <Chousuke> w32codecs is in synaptic too
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> k3b is a very nice tool.
[07:55] <MadpilotPPC> vbgunz, sure. it's a better app than GnomeBaker, IMO...
[07:55] <Cryptid> oga, i breezy cd will be shiped i already placed the order for Breezy
[07:55] <ryufreak> can't find it :(
[07:55] <ryufreak> using search
[07:55] <dabaR> vbgunz: this guy has a weird hoary install, did not even install OO.o for him,
[07:56] <MadpilotPPC> Chousuke, not any more it's not... ;)
[07:56] <Cryptid> vbgunz, get gnomebaker
[07:56] <Travis|H> w32codecs was taken out ryufreak .. i just went through the same thing not more than an hour ago
[07:56] <vbgunz> Dr_Willis: When I selected k3b, a bunch of files got selected with it... I agreed to them all... should this be all that I need?
[07:56] <bobulor> greetings everyone
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> vbgunz,  its a kde app.. so it will install most of the kde stuff.
[07:56] <Travis|H> i got the .deb from the bittorrent site Dr_Willis posted and it worked fine
[07:56] <vbgunz> gnomebaker?
[07:56] <Cryptid> vbgunz, yes u will need all those files
[07:56] <MadpilotPPC> ryufreak, are you following the wiki's RestrictedFormats page? it's all up to date
[07:56] <ryufreak> could you link me?
[07:56] <bobulor> crimsun: I'm in dire straights with my sound system
[07:56] <MadpilotPPC> !tell ryufreak about restricted
[07:57] <Travis|H> RestrictedFormats page still says to apt-get install w32codecs .. it was taken out of the repositories .. so that's a no go
[07:57] <MadpilotPPC> Travis|H, no it doesn't - it's up to date, trust me.
[07:57] <oga> If I place a order of a few ubuntu cd's at shipit _today_, will the hoary cd's be shipped, or breezy? (in october though)
[07:57] <vbgunz> it's cool... this is my first question along these lines... *if* I choose to uninstall a program I install through Synaptic will fragments of the application be left behind??
[07:57] <Chousuke> hmm.
[07:57] <Chousuke> vbgunz: configs.
[07:57] <Cryptid> vbgunz gettting gnomebaker is better u need to download a very sall file but in Case of K3b u will need to download all KDE support files so its better to get GnomeBaker
[07:57] <Chousuke> vbgunz: you can purge them with --purge
[07:58] <MadpilotPPC> vbgunz, configs will be left behind, unless you choose "complete uninstall" in Synaptic
[07:58] <Chousuke> or by selecting purge from the menu
[07:58] <Travis|H> MadpilotPPC: I am looking at it right now https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats
[07:58] <esac> i am trying to install gnome-cpufreq-applet and it wants to remove ubuntu-desktop. any ideas why ?
[07:58] <vbgunz> this is one of the reasons why I wish to switch from Windows to Linux... I have this belief nothing will get left behind on uninstall... slowing the system down, etc...
[07:58] <cafuego_> Well, except for the bit where gnomebaker appears to be unable to burn audio cds.
[07:58] <bobulor> crimsun: sound only works for Totem Movie Player (crappily). When I talked to the computer help center for my school, they said to update all my drivers. But I don't know how to go about doing that.
[07:58] <Jack_B> how do i add shortcuts for programs onto the gnome taskbar?
[07:58] <MadpilotPPC> Travis|H, please read the whole page - you need to add a seperate repo to get w32codecs...
[07:58] <cafuego_> esac: the cpu freq thingie should already be in the list of stuff to be added to the panel.
[07:58] <esac> vbgunz: i wouldn't count on it. unless you 100% know what you are doing, it is very often that you'll leave behind a dependency that is no longer needed
[07:59] <AdmiralSenn> okay, take two
[07:59] <vbgunz> Chousuke: when and where do I use the purge command? does it go by itself on the command line?
[07:59] <bobulor> crimsun: any suggestions?
[07:59] <cafuego_> Jack_B: Right-click the bar, choose 'Add...' and then choose launcher.
[07:59] <AdmiralSenn> what is the option for the mount command to do a reiser filesystem? -t reiserfs?
[07:59] <Jack_B> thanks cafuego
[07:59] <esac> cafuego: it seems to be a scaled down version of one i've seen before. i can't seem to set what frequency i want to run at with this one
[07:59] <MadpilotPPC> AdmiralSenn, "man mount" might have answers
[08:00] <crimsun> bobulor, you're going to have to be considerably more detailed
[08:00] <cafuego_> esac: No, this one only reports what powernowd has chosen for you. (it scales depending on how busy the cpu is)
[08:00] <mae> whats the name of the OSS project thats trying to clone howl?
[08:00] <alexandre> hello
[08:00] <vbgunz> esac: that was just one of the reasons why I in a sense started to despise windows... things just kept getting left behind... The system got slower even if I unstalled it all... man..
[08:00] <AdmiralSenn> I did that
[08:00] <cafuego_> esac: ie: When you're not doing much, it'll always be as slow as it can be.
[08:00] <AdmiralSenn> it doesn't go over every single filesystem it can handle
[08:00] <Cryptid> cafuego_, Well Gnome Baker can make Audio cds i made 1 jus yesterday
[08:00] <mae> Cryptid, have you tried serpentine?
[08:00] <cafuego_> Cryptid: Not on amd64 breezy, completely hangs.
[08:00] <alexandre> i need help for Ubuntu ???
[08:00] <esac> cafuego: any idea what i can install to control that. unfortunately vmware doesn't seem to pass through its need for cpu and it runs as slow as a dog
[08:00] <AdmiralSenn> more specifically I need to know what filesystem ubuntu uses by default and what the mount option for it is
[08:00] <MadpilotPPC> AdmiralSenn, try "man -k reiser" - that will search the man files for resier...
[08:01] <mahangu> any recommendations for a ftp client i can apt-get?
[08:01] <Cryptid> mae, what is serpentine
[08:01] <crimsun> cafuego_, ugh. Where does it hang?
[08:01] <MadpilotPPC> AdmiralSenn, ext3 by default, AFAIK
[08:01] <bobulor> crimsun: how do I determine the sound system running in my computer? Would it be Alsa?
[08:01] <cafuego_> esac: Disable powernowd, that should force it to run at full speed.
[08:01] <oga> If I place a order of a few ubuntu cd's at shipit _today_, will the hoary cd's be shipped, or breezy? (in october though) ?
[08:01] <Dr_Willis> i tend to use 'mc' for my ftp needs. but thats old-skool
[08:01] <crimsun> bobulor, by default, yes.
[08:01] <ryufreak> what does W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net etch Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907
[08:01] <ryufreak>  mean
[08:01] <tristanmike> oga, breezy full release cds
[08:01] <bobulor> crimsun, so, I should go hunt down alsa drivers?
[08:01] <cafuego_> crimsun: it convers the mp3 tracks to wav, then stops.
[08:01] <crimsun> ryufreak, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptAuthenticationInstructionsForHoary
[08:01] <oga> tristanmike, you sure?
[08:01] <Cryptid> oga, Breezy will be Shipped not hoary
[08:01] <crimsun> bobulor, not yet. That's the last resort.
[08:01] <oga> ok :)
[08:02] <cafuego_> crimsun: I can cd to the tempdir then burn using cdrecord in a for loop without any problems.
[08:02] <AdmiralSenn> nothing
[08:02] <tristanmike> oga, yeah, if you order Breezy will be shipped not Hoary, in fact the shipit page says that
[08:02] <crimsun> cafuego_, hmm, ok.
[08:02] <bobulor> crimsun: what would be a good first resort?
[08:02] <alexandre> i install breezy on my laptop
[08:02] <crimsun> bobulor, cat /proc/asound/modules
[08:02] <bobulor> crimsun, in terminal?
[08:03] <mahangu> ftp client for ubuntu, anyone?
[08:03] <AdmiralSenn> well, apparently it doesn't use reiser, ext2 or ext3
[08:03] <B_166-ER-X> wtf, is that normal ? i just install openoffice2 from synaptic, and at the splash screen its 'Open office 1.1' but the 1.1 have a red X on it , and 2.0 over it, like 'hand-writen' !!??
[08:03] <Dr_Willis> lol
[08:03] <Dr_Willis> how unprofessional.
[08:03] <Cryptid> mahangu, gftp is good
[08:03] <mahangu> Cryptid, does it ship with ubuntu? or do i have to d/l it?
[08:04] <bobulor> crimsun: I typed "cat /proc/asound/modules" and got the reply "0 snd_intel8x0"
[08:04] <MadpilotPPC> B_166-ER-X, 2.0 is a beta still...
[08:04] <Cryptid> mahangu, download it from synaptic
[08:04] <oneifreak> B_166-ER-X: ive seen that before
[08:04] <crimsun> bobulor, ok. Are you using Hoary or Breezy?
[08:04] <bobulor> crimsun, good question, I'll look around in synaptic
[08:04] <B_166-ER-X> well, it doenst look like openoffice2 from Breezy at all..
[08:05] <ryufreak> "Merge the archive key for debian-marillat into your default user's keyring" how do i do that?
[08:05] <calvin> can anyone help me with an EXE question (Very new to ubuntu)?
[08:05] <smott> just ask
[08:05] <crimsun> bobulor, lsb_release -a will tell you
[08:05] <JDahl> ryufreak, breezy is not every released, and you're already busy breaking it?
[08:05] <calvin> is there anyway to install exe programs in ubuntu?
[08:05] <Dr_Willis> EXE?
[08:05] <tristanmike> calvin, there are no exe's in linux
[08:06] <tristanmike> calvin, exe is a Windows only file
[08:06] <Dr_Willis> time for a wine/faq/ url.
[08:06] <tristanmike> lol
[08:06] <smott> calvin: we have elfs in linux, not exes
[08:06] <ryufreak> JDahl, I just want some codec's :( lol
[08:06] <bobulor> crimsun, I use Hoary Hedgehog
[08:06] <calvin> How can I get photoshop for ubuntu, or can i"
[08:06] <calvin> ?
[08:06] <Dr_Willis> !wine
[08:06] <Dr_Willis> type "!wine" and read the bots message
[08:07] <Dr_Willis> you MAY be able to run it with 'wine'
[08:07] <ryufreak> photoshop is gimp
[08:07] <crimsun> bobulor, are you using an ~/.asoundrc or /etc/asound.conf?
[08:07] <MadpilotPPC> calvin, try the GIMP instead - it's installed in Ubuntu by default
[08:07] <Dr_Willis> or use gimp - it can do most all the basic tasks.
[08:07] <B_166-ER-X> !openoffice2.org splash screen odities
[08:07] <ubotu> Wish i knew, B_166-ER-X
[08:07] <B_166-ER-X> (..)
[08:07] <bobulor> crimsun, will typing either one tell me?
[08:07] <calvin> is there any conversion?, I kinda need it for my online class for college
[08:07] <crimsun> bobulor, no. ls -l ~/.asoundrc /etc/asound.conf
[08:08] <aftertaf> boing :)
[08:08] <ryufreak> calvin, why not dual boot windows if you need it?
[08:08] <MadpilotPPC> calvin, you might be able to get Photoshop running in Wine
[08:08] <Dr_Willis> if the class is teaching photoshop - you will proberly want to use photpshop then
[08:08] <aftertaf> linner:  morning k: )
[08:08] <linner> aftertaf:  HEY!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:08] <linner> aftertaf:  i was just thinking about you
[08:08] <calvin> I lost my XP disk, main reason for being persistant about it in ubuntu
[08:09] <aftertaf> linner:  nice ;)
[08:09] <Dr_Willis> wine is a compatibility layer used by linux to let it run [some]  windows programs.
[08:09] <calvin> what is wine?
[08:09] <Dr_Willis> type "!wine" and read the bots message
[08:09] <linner> did you get all 12 of my emails this morning???  *laughing*
[08:09] <calvin> !wine
[08:09] <Dr_Willis> :) like i said earlier.
[08:09] <tristanmike> calvin, have a look at gimp-shop, it's a plugin that makes all the menus and stuff as close to photoshop as possible
[08:09] <Dr_Willis> lol
[08:10] <dbzdeath2> !wine
[08:10] <bobulor> crimsun, I typed "ls -l ~/.asoundrc /etc/asound.conf" and it said No such file or directory for "ls: /home/robert/.asoundrc" and "ls: /etc/asound.conf"
[08:10] <aftertaf> lol linner yeah... 3, not 12 ;)
[08:10] <linner> you get what i mean
[08:10] <Dr_Willis> !beer
[08:10] <ubotu> No idea, Dr_Willis
[08:10] <ryufreak> gah, damn codecs!
[08:10] <linner> big time probs with my keyboard
[08:11] <ice_1963> it's best to for get window's and jest use linux :0)
[08:11] <aftertaf> hehe.... typing with forehead does have its disadvantages...
[08:11] <crimsun> bobulor, what about for ~/.asoundrc ?
[08:11] <vbgunz> how do I uninstall an application in which I installed through the command line interface?
[08:11] <crimsun> bobulor, err, sorry. Your statement was cut off.
[08:11] <aftertaf> vbgunz:  with apt-get?
[08:12] <calvin> where can I find programs that are for ubuntu, games, utilitites and such?
[08:12] <kingemer> hey, the link for the docs in the topic needs a capital D
[08:12] <vbgunz> aftertaf: yes
[08:12] <bobulor> crimsun, why?
[08:12] <vbgunz> apt-get install gpa
[08:12] <aftertaf> vbgunz:  synaptic... or apt-get remove.
[08:12] <MadpilotPPC> kingemer, good catch!
[08:12] <aftertaf> vbgunz:  synaptic is a gui frontend for apt
[08:12] <Jack_B> what's a good firewall besides firestarter?
[08:12] <Dr_Willis> calvin,  synaptic - is the tool to learn to use and love
[08:12] <crimsun> bobulor, it's a local client screen width issue
[08:12] <tristanmike> ryufreak, did you figure out how to install that key, the apt authentication thingy?
[08:12] <bobulor> crimsun, o
[08:13] <brownie17> bob2, i am using kino, which you recommended me (i think), and i go to open a ".mpg" file and it gives me an error, like invalid format or something
[08:13] <vbgunz> aftertaf: thanks!
[08:13] <calvin> where is synaptic?
[08:13] <kingemer> MadpilotPPC: just doing my duty :-)
[08:13] <ryufreak> nope
[08:13] <Jack_B> look for synaptic under system, administration
[08:13] <B_166-ER-X> how can i have the last version of openoffice stable ?
[08:13] <brownie17> calvin, synaptic is the the sytem-> admin menu
[08:13] <ryufreak> but i googled w32codecs, and found a place to get it
[08:13] <bobulor> crimsun, i typed ~/.asoundrc and it said no such file or directory
[08:13] <ryufreak> tristanmike, try wget ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[08:13] <ryufreak> sudo dpkg -i ./w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[08:14] <bobulor> crimsun, with your earlier command it said the same thing about two other things
[08:14] <Travis|H> ugh so i am trying to figure out all this stuff for myself .. when it comes to CVS ......... CVS is just for obtaining sources right? ... or is there a special method for compiling the sources obtained via CVS?
[08:14] <Hobbsee> B_166-ER-X: check out the ubuntu guide howto on it...
[08:14] <tristanmike> ryufreak, I have them, thanx, I just want to get that archive working
[08:14] <brownie17> billytwowilly, nice name
[08:14] <crimsun> bobulor, right, that's what we were trying to figure out.
[08:14] <Hobbsee> B_166-ER-X: check out the ubuntu forums howto on it...
[08:15] <bobulor> crimsun, they were  /home/robert/.asound and  /etc/asound.conf
[08:15] <cevizoglu> Travis|H, cvs is mostly for version control, but yes, you can get unstable source code with it
[08:15] <ryufreak> just tested it, not working for me yet =/
[08:15] <brownie17> is anyone here familiar with "kino"?
[08:15] <MadpilotPPC> crimsun, want to change the /topic, pls? typo in the UserDocumentation link
[08:15] <ishit> anyone can plz tel me how to get latest repositories for ubuntu
[08:15] <cevizoglu> Travis|H, and if you get the release date right, you can get stable code with it
[08:15] <crimsun> bobulor, which totem are you using, totem-xine or totem-gstreamer?
[08:15] <vbgunz> how do I use the purge command... I believe Dr_willis was telling me but never finished... anyone know how to purge?
[08:15] <brownie17> ishit, type "!repos"
[08:15] <B_166-ER-X> why isnt always the last version of an app, thats listed in apt-get or synaptic ?
[08:15] <ishit> where
[08:15] <linner> brownie17:  kino is a game in vegas right?  :)
[08:15] <linner> oh wait that's KENO :)
[08:15] <Travis|H> cevizoglu: but as far as the source obtained with cvs ... just compile it normal?
[08:15] <Hobbsee> B_166-ER-X: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30866&page=29&highlight=howto+latest+openoffice - the last few posts of that
[08:15] <brownie17> linner, hahha
[08:16] <linner> :)
[08:16] <bobulor> crimsun, Movie Player using xine-lib version 1.0.0
[08:16] <brownie17> linner, i'm not trying to gamble im trying to video edit
[08:16] <cevizoglu> Travis|H, yes
[08:16] <Travis|H> ok thanks
[08:16] <Hobbsee> B_166-ER-X: who knows, but it's pretty easy to install following the last few posts on that thread
[08:16] <ishit> "!repos"
[08:16] <linner> brownie17:  yeah then going to vegas night be a problem
[08:16] <esac> if i install a program that wants to remove ubuntu-desktop, is that bad ?
[08:16] <brownie17> linner, hahah
[08:16] <ced78> ubuntu n'arrive pas a crire sur du ntfs?
[08:16] <linner> :)
[08:16] <ishit> how do i get latest repositories for ubuntu
[08:16] <ice_1963> that's bad lol
[08:17] <Hobbsee> esac: that's a metapackage, meaning it has nothing in it...it's good to install it before dist upgrading to breezy though
[08:17] <linner> do we have a french forum?
[08:17] <MadpilotPPC> !fr
[08:17] <ubotu> well, fr is Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[08:17] <linner> MadpilotPPC:  thank you :)
[08:17] <cevizoglu> which works better with ubuntu - pentium m or the sempron processor?  I'm a newb with intel-compat. hardware
[08:17] <crimsun> bobulor, do you mean that the sound's scratchy and pops, or ...?
[08:17] <oneifreak> rad, 242M updates :P
[08:18] <ishit> anyone
[08:18] <MustangMatt> Are there zimbra packages yet?
[08:18] <dabaR> ishit: do you know how to see what ubotu sent you? if not, answer with the IRC client program that you are using.
[08:18] <brownie17> can anyone help me with Kino? i am trying to open a .mpg file in it
[08:18] <bobulor> crimsun, imagine every concievable problem with sound, totem has it right now: pops. scratchy sound, sound that isn't accurate to what I know I should hear, etc.
[08:19] <brownie17> bobulor, sounds pretty bad
[08:19] <bobulor> crimsun, and i have the interesting problem where the speed at which the music plays tends to speed up and slow down randomly
[08:19] <esac> if im already running breezy and i do a dist-upgrade, will i get colony 5 ?
[08:19] <bobulor> crimsun, and Totem is the only thing sound will work for
[08:19] <brownie17> i am getting an error with kino and cinepaint, can anyone help me?
[08:19] <dabaR> esac: or something newer
[08:19] <ishit> how do get a copy of breezy
[08:19] <crimsun> bobulor, I thought you said sound _doesn't_ work with totem
[08:19] <brownie17> ishit, if you are having problem with hoary, then you don't need breezy
[08:20] <bobulor> crimsun, I just mentioned all my problems to the guy who put my os together for me, he said to go get a new kernel
[08:20] <bobulor> crimsun, no
[08:20] <brownie17> ishit, http://tinyurl.com/85dry
[08:20] <ishit> i am havin a BIG prob wit hoary
[08:20] <brownie17> ishit, what is it?
[08:20] <crimsun> bobulor, what's the default audio sink configured as in System>Preferences>Multimedia Systems Selector?
[08:20] <bobulor> crimsun, with totem iat leasti can hear something, with everything else i get no sound at all
[08:20] <brownie17> ishit, is it a bug or do you not know how to use it?
[08:20] <ishit> it does not instal properly on my machine
[08:20] <bobulor> crimsun, ESD
[08:20] <brownie17> ishit, what mahine are you using?
[08:21] <brownie17> bobulor, try ALSA
[08:21] <ishit> p4 2.4ghz 380mb ram
[08:21] <brownie17> !tell bobulor about ALSA
[08:21] <Feral_Kid> Could anyone plase tell me howI could install the latest version of fwbuilder 2.0.7? I am stuck with version 2.0.3, and that is impacting a project...
[08:21] <bobulor> !tell
[08:21] <NaVi> hello
[08:21] <ishit> theres never a clean installation
[08:21] <bobulor> brownie17, ???
[08:21] <scanwinder> does anyone know if there's a way to minimize america's army?
[08:22] <ice_1963> ishit that's a good one )
[08:22] <brownie17> bobulor, you said you were having problems with ESD, so try ALSA
[08:22] <NaVi> Got a question no one seems to knowfforsure.
[08:22] <dabaR> scanwinder: ctrl_
[08:22] <ishit> i hav a friend who is advanced in linux n he too has no idea
[08:22] <brownie17> bobulor, it is an alternative
[08:22] <dabaR> ctrl+c to kill it.
[08:22] <bobulor> brownie17, i switched, nothing is any better
[08:22] <Hobbsee> NaVi: say it, that's a good start
[08:22] <ishit> i hav a new prob at every instalation hehehe
[08:22] <brownie17> ishit, well maybe it is just not compatable. there is a lady in here who has been trying for weeks to make it work, and it just doesn't.
[08:23] <ishit> yea
[08:23] <NaVi> does Ubuntu have SLI support or is it coming in the next driver update from nvidia?
[08:23] <dabaR> ishit: if you want help, be responsive to questions you get asked, and ask your question in the proper way.
[08:23] <brownie17> bobulor, to switch to ALSA you don't just click switch, there are many settings which it teaches you in that there guide
[08:23] <vbgunz> can someone help me map shortcut keys to seahorse GPG signing of documents?
[08:23] <MustangMatt> dabar: I'm not asking about the official repository. I'm asking if anyone has built packages yet.
[08:23] <ishit> so i thought ill try breezy
[08:23] <vbgunz> I don't see anything in the options for a shortcut key...
[08:23] <cevizoglu> ishit, you should
[08:23] <bobulor> brownie17, a guide?
[08:23] <scanwinder> dabaR: dosent work
[08:23] <cevizoglu> ishit, but if it fails you won't know for sure until stable is released
[08:23] <scanwinder> dabaR: just tried it
[08:23] <brownie17> ishit, if that doesn't work, try another distro or give up, because theres not much chance
[08:23] <brownie17> bobulor, in that link i gave you
[08:24] <dabaR> kill the stu^id game anyhow.
[08:24] <MadpilotPPC> nalioth, do FF extensions not work on Ubuntu PPC? I can't get Adblocker and a couple others to install...
[08:24] <crimsun> bobulor, did you just select alsasink in the default audio sink?
[08:24] <ishit> y is it havin these kind of incompatibility happenin
[08:24] <NaVi> ok what an answer
[08:24] <cevizoglu> ishit, your hardware is probably not as common as other hardware
[08:24] <brownie17> crimsun, yes, i am telling him to do it the proper way
[08:24] <ishit> kk
[08:24] <Feral_Kid> I guess that mean no...
[08:25] <brownie17> ishit, what graphics card are you using? what is the error? is it an X config error?
[08:25] <crimsun> brownie17, he might need customsink -> alsasink device=plughw:0,0
[08:25] <ishit> thats the first prob
[08:25] <bobulor> brownie17, 1.) i dont see a link, 2.) yeah, i just changed to alsa in multimedia systems selector
[08:25] <ishit> but i got a way to repair that
[08:25] <brownie17> crimsun, wel try it
[08:25] <cevizoglu> ishit, which is surprising because I've had great HW support from ubuntu over all kinds of hardware
[08:25] <brownie17> bobulor, ill send it again
[08:25] <brownie17> !tell bobulor about ALSA
[08:25] <crimsun> stepping out for a moment, brb
[08:26] <brownie17> bobulor, there you go
[08:26] <nalioth> MadpilotPPC: ymmv
[08:26] <bobulor> brownie17, every time you say !tell bobulor about alsa, nothing happens
[08:26] <nalioth> MadpilotPPC: not only do you have the PPC wall, but the firefox version inconsistency
[08:26] <ishit> then some programs that i get through synaptic instal smoothly n dont work finally
[08:26] <NaVi> I must have missed the answer
[08:27] <MadpilotPPC> nalioth, oh, fun... this is 1.0.6, AFAIK, so it shouldn't be out of date
[08:27] <ishit> how big is the breezy downloasd
[08:27] <ishit> download
[08:27] <bobulor> brownie17, it goes from the !tell statement to the bobulor... statement, with only crimsun's statement about stepping out for a minute
[08:27] <cevizoglu> ishit, around 650 mb
[08:27] <NaVi> ok one more try
[08:27] <jamey3> I am stuck in a loop! gnome-panel keeps quitting unexpectedly. When I choose "Close" or "Restart Application" the same thing happens. How can I fix it??
[08:27] <bobulor> brownie17, still no link though
[08:27] <brownie17> bobulor, it should open another window message from ubotu, with the link and info in it
[08:27] <NaVi> Is there SLI support yet?
[08:28] <nalioth> MadpilotPPC: if adblock isnt written for 1.0.6, that's an inconsistency
[08:28] <ishit> shux
[08:28] <brownie17> NaVi, no
[08:28] <Feral_Kid> This almost making me what to go back to gentoo... <sigh>
[08:28] <NaVi> oh
[08:28] <brownie17> NaVi, or so i hear
[08:28] <NaVi> ok second question
[08:28] <ishit> then once downloaded how do i instal it
[08:28] <MadpilotPPC> nalioth, it does work on x86, at least...
[08:28] <brownie17> ishit, how did you install hoary?
[08:28] <ice_1963> i got to go ishit brb :0)-
[08:28] <ishit> through a boot cd
[08:29] <cevizoglu> anyone have success/failure with an AMD 64 notebook with ubuntu?  I'm considering getting one
[08:29] <bobulor> brownie17, o, it put the link in another tab at the bottom of the window in a manner that made it seem like nothing had happened
[08:29] <NaVi> I know nothing of Linux and or programming, how can I learn linux is there a beginner tutorial?
[08:29] <MadpilotPPC> !tell NaVi about docs
[08:29] <jamey3> NaVi, look on tldp.org
[08:29] <MadpilotPPC> !tell NaVi about cli
[08:29] <brownie17> ishit, it will be approx 650 meg. it is in ISO format, which means a cd image. you can use a program like k3b to burn it to a cd. but get the live cd first, because you need it for fixing stuff if the install dosesnt work
[08:29] <bob2> cevizoglu: the specific model is a lot more important than the architecture
[08:29] <MadpilotPPC> NaVi, the two msgs from ubotu should get you started off
[08:29] <jamey3> I am stuck in a loop! gnome-panel keeps quitting unexpectedly. When I choose "Close" or "Restart Application" the same thing happens. How can I fix it??
[08:29] <brownie17> bobulor, yeah, you needed to know what to look for. sorry i assumed you knew
[08:29] <bob2> cevizoglu: using linux-laptops.net and wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam is a better plan
[08:30] <nalioth> MadpilotPPC: ppc users really have to love ubuntu
[08:30] <jamey3> can anyone help me?
[08:30] <ishit> i hav a live cd of hoary so wil it help me repair hoary version
[08:31] <MadpilotPPC> nalioth, I'm getting this impression... too bad...
[08:31] <ishit> one big prob is that if k3b instals then limewire n skype dont work n vice versa
[08:31] <net28> l
[08:31] <nalioth> MadpilotPPC: too bad for what/whom?
[08:31] <brownie17> MadpilotPPC, so when breezy gets official release on oct 13, are backports encouraged? and where can i get a recommended file for sources.list like the one from ubotu for hoary?
[08:31] <MadpilotPPC> nalioth, too bad for both PPC users and Ubuntu...
[08:32] <jamey3> join #gnome
[08:32] <jamey3> shit
[08:32] <jamey3> haha
[08:32] <bobulor> brownie17, fyi, i am arguably the biggest linux newb is existence. Im going through an online tutorial about basic linux (slowly), but I only know a few basic commands like how to sudo shutdown -h <time reference>
[08:32] <MadpilotPPC> brownie17, no idea - might want to join ubuntu-motu, I think they're in charge of stuff like that
[08:32] <nalioth> MadpilotPPC: i guess so
[08:32] <nalioth> !tell bobulor about cli
[08:33] <Burgundavia> brownie17, backports have been added to the default sources.list, just commented out like universe
[08:33] <ishit> can an ubuntu live cd help me repair
[08:33] <trans_err> is there an up to date marilliat or something where I can install mplayer (with dvd support)? nerim doesn't seem to work anymore...
[08:33] <brownie17> bobulor, why not try doing things from the gnome menu for a while? to shut down you just go "system -> logoff -> shutdown" much easier for former winxp users :) i am noob too, but i am happy to answer any questions i can whenever i am on, which is fairl often
[08:33] <JDahl> brownie17, judging from /topic lately, I dont think Ubuntu devs encourage backports. Besides, you get a brand-new distro; why do you need backports?
[08:34] <brownie17> ishit, yes
[08:34] <cevizoglu> MadpilotPPC, I like ubuntu on PPC a lot, it runs very well
[08:34] <ishit> how do i do it
[08:34] <wrabbit01> Hey everybody.... Is there a tutorial/instruction site on how to install particular programs?
[08:34] <Burgundavia> JDahl, official backports are available
[08:34] <wrabbit01> I'd like to install a program but I can't work out how
[08:34] <Burgundavia> JDahl, they are not actively discouraged
[08:34] <trans_err> anyone?
[08:34] <brownie17> JDahl, it was really just a question. but you said dev's don't like backports? in general or just breezy?
[08:34] <meerkat> wrabbit01: google.com ;-)
[08:34] <Hobbsee> wrabbit01: what were you trying to insatll?
[08:34] <vik> My usb disk used to work brilliantly via the inbuilt hub in my usb keyboard. I've now regressed to an older keyboard, and plug the drive straight into the motherboard. It no longer works. Any ideas?
[08:34] <Burgundavia> trans_err, does the copy from multiverse not work?
[08:35] <MadpilotPPC> cevizoglu, this one is running very well, it's just the important little details I keep getting stuck on... :(
[08:35] <wrabbit01> meerkat: Trust me, I've been looking but nothing's making sense at the moment
[08:35] <trans_err> Burgundavia: it doesn't include dvd support
[08:35] <ishit> one big prob is that if k3b instals then limewire n skype dont work n vice vers. how do i correct this problem
[08:35] <wrabbit01> Hobbsee: World Wind
[08:35] <brownie17> vik, you change your user options? the light work? it show up in "computer"
[08:35] <nalioth> trans_err: just ask your bloody question. "anyone?" is a waste of time and bandwidth
[08:35] <jamey3> trans_err, I completely understand. nobody gives a fuck :)
[08:35] <trans_err> nalioth: I did ask my bloody question
[08:35] <jamey3> me too
[08:35] <bobulor> brownie17, i typed "sudo mv /etc/esound/esd.conf /etc/esound/esd.conf_backup" and never got my terminal prompt back.
[08:35] <tristanmike> jamey3, lang.
[08:35] <trans_err> jamey3: cute
[08:36] <vbgunz> seahorse
[08:36] <crimsun> bobulor, any luck?
[08:36] <kingemer> i tried the live cd on my powerbook
[08:36] <vik> brownie17: haven't changed a thing except the keyboard. The devices says its connected, but dmesg gives: usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 8
[08:36] <vik> usb 2-1: device descriptor read/64, error -71
[08:36] <vik> usb 2-1: device descriptor read/64, error -71
[08:36] <jamey3> wow, thanks all.. that helped :P
[08:36] <ishit> u there
[08:36] <bobulor> crimsun, I went to some ubuntu site to do something to my sound system. I got three steps into it and one of the commands never gave me my command prompt back
[08:36] <nalioth> trans_err: dont put "anyone?" into hte channel, it does no good at all
[08:37] <brownie17> ishit, if you are talking to me, address me
[08:37] <ishit> how do i repair frm a live cd
[08:37] <ishit> k
[08:37] <ishit> sorry
[08:37] <brownie17> that's allright
[08:37] <trans_err> nalioth: repsonses like yours don't do anyone any good-- its the same elitist silliness that I despised about the debian community
[08:37] <ishit> brownie17: plz help me out
[08:37] <crimsun> bobulor, ok. I was hoping you'd wait before doing anything rash. Anyhow, what commands did you execute?
[08:37] <jamey3> ishit, what's the problem?
[08:37] <brownie17> livecd just lets you in, so you can correct setting changes you made that caused errors. i don't know why k3b won't co-exist, but it should. try a different buring in program. do you know how to use synaptic well?
[08:37] <nalioth> trans_err: well then we're both filling the channel needlessly
[08:37] <tristanmike> bobulor, try ctrl+c
[08:38] <ishit> one big prob is that if k3b instals then limewire n skype dont work n vice versa
[08:38] <brownie17> ishit, i am basically a noob as well, if you want proper help you would be better asking direct questions in general
[08:38] <nalioth> imho its better to repeat the actual question than issue an "anyone" or "please help me"
[08:38] <jamey3> have you tried graveman?
[08:38] <bobulor> crimsun, i did everything through the first step in part 3 of this site: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[08:38] <trans_err> nalioth: fun
[08:38] <ishit> one big prob is that if k3b instals then limewire n skype dont work n vice versa
[08:38] <ishit> thats the question dude
[08:38] <jamey3> nalioth, yeah but then people complain you're some foolish "repeater"
[08:38] <Hobbsee> wrabbit01: where are you trying to download it from?  If it's a binary, you'll have to compile it yourself
[08:38] <bobulor> tristanmike, Im not sure i want to make the command force quit though.
[08:39] <brownie17> ishit, and you need to give lots of information i.e instead of . k3b won't work.   you could say   i am running hoary with backports enabled and k3b gives me the following error "blah blah blah this is copied blah blah blah"
[08:39] <tristanmike> bobulor, fair enough
[08:39] <brownie17> ishit, do you know what backports are?
[08:39] <ishit> nope
[08:39] <brownie17> !tell ishit about repos
[08:39] <brownie17> !tell ishit about backports
[08:40] <ishit> ya wen i did an apt-get i got som backport error
[08:40] <dabaR> !tell brownie17 about msg the bot
[08:40] <brownie17> ishit, go to the links and read the info. repos or repositories are like servers for auto-packages
[08:40] <wrabbit01> Hobbsee: I have downloaded the .tar.bz2 file and it's sitting on my desktop.  I'm still googling for a basic installation tutorial for linux
[08:40] <ishit> ya so how do i update
[08:40] <jamey3> ishit, it sounds like that's the real problem
[08:40] <brownie17> dabaR, forgive me, i wanted to show ishit how to use the bot.
[08:40] <ice_1963> k3b will work if you install cdrdal
[08:40] <jamey3> once you've sorted out your repos, update and upgrade
[08:41] <dabaR> there is nothing to forgive, off course...
[08:41] <ishit> k thnx
[08:41] <crimsun> bobulor, ok. Erase /etc/asound.conf.
[08:41] <jamey3> gnome-panel keeps quitting unexpectedly. how can I fix it?
[08:41] <crimsun> bobulor, then change the default audio sink in System> Preferences> Multimedia Systems Selector to customsink
[08:42] <Hobbsee> wrabbit01: is http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/softinstall.html of any use to you?
[08:42] <crimsun> bobulor, in the box below customsink, type: alsasink device=plughw:0,0
[08:42] <ishit> ok at least tel me how do i repair through a live cd
[08:42] <wrabbit01> Hobbsee: Perfect.  Cheers.  I was just checking out linux-tutorial.info aswell.
[08:43] <wrabbit01> Looks like I've got a bit of reading to do. :) Thanks for the help.
[08:43] <cevizoglu> ishit, repair what, your hard drive?
[08:43] <jamey3> gnome-panel keeps quitting unexpectedly. how can I fix it?
[08:43] <brownie17> does anyone know what the hell the deal with the bots is? why are they abusing us?
[08:43] <ishit> the wholw damn thing
[08:43] <Hobbsee> wrabbit01: :) it's amazing what useful stuff google comes up with when you know what to search for
[08:43] <bobulor> crimsun, just destory the /etc/asound.conf window without saving?
[08:43] <ishit> ITS SO UNSTABLE
[08:43] <cevizoglu> brownie17, what do you mean?  asking the bot for things it doesn't know?
[08:43] <crimsun> bobulor, yes
[08:43] <epiloc> i conquored my diskless fujitsu!
[08:43] <Hobbsee> wrabbit01: np
[08:43] <brownie17> ishit, mind your caps please
[08:44] <wrabbit01> Hobbsee: Agreed. :)
[08:44] <ishit> y wats the prob
[08:44] <jamey3> gnome-panel keeps quitting unexpectedly. how can I fix it?
[08:44] <bob2> instability is usually a hardware problem
[08:44] <brownie17> cevizoglu, no, the constant flow of people coming and going, the auto-bots
[08:44] <yahalom> anyone find that mozilla works better than firefox?
[08:45] <bobulor> crimsun, done. Test the pipeline?
[08:45] <jamey3> can *anyone* help me with my gnome-panel problem?!
[08:45] <cevizoglu> ishit, you wouldn't normally create a whole distro from livecd
[08:45] <vbgunz> anyone know how to map shortcut keys to actions such as signing documents with GPG? I am using Seahorse if it makes a difference?
[08:45] <brownie17> who can help me with a libgcc error? i get the following when i try to install avidemux: avidemux:  Depends: libgcc1 (>=1:4.0.0-7) but 1:4.0-0pre6ubuntu7 is to be installed
[08:45] <cevizoglu> ishit, unless you're really advanced with linux and running with really unsupported hw
[08:45] <cevizoglu> ishit, in which case, you would just go buy supported hw
[08:46] <aftertaf> boing!
[08:46] <cevizoglu> ishit, not like it costs anything nowadays
[08:46] <NaVi> I have a good question
[08:46] <brownie17> yahalom, not me. other way around
[08:46] <ice_1963> ok
[08:46] <NaVi> how do you compile?
[08:47] <bobulor> crimsun, i made all the changes as you have  instructed
[08:47] <brownie17> bob2, you remember last time i got an error like ^^^^?? how did you fix it for me?
[08:47] <jamey3> can *anyone* help me with my gnome-panel problem?!
[08:47] <epiloc> yeah, apt-get install kde
[08:47] <NaVi> is there a step by step instruction tocompiling
[08:47] <Hobbsee> lol epiloc :P
[08:47] <cevizoglu> bob2: does linux-laptops.net only work if you have flash?
[08:47] <brownie17> jamey3, can you go into some more detail about the problem? why is it crashing? how often? any error messages?
[08:47] <jamey3> epiloc, haha
[08:48] <bobulor> crimsun, is there a way to open a window/tab in which I can carry a conversation with specific people exclusively?
[08:48] <brownie17> bobulor, yes
[08:48] <brownie17> bobulor, you just right click their name and press open dialog
[08:48] <bobulor> ah, thx
[08:48] <NaVi> i guess that was a bad question
[08:48] <brownie17> bobulor, try it on me
[08:48] <Hobbsee> NaVi: have you tried http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/softinstall.html
[08:48] <epiloc> does anyone know if there is touchscreen capabilities for ubuntu/kubuntu ?
[08:48] <kingemer> so i do computer repair work and things for a lot of extended friends, and i was wondering if i recommend ubuntu as a windows replacement if i should also recommend this channel
[08:49] <jamey3> brownie17, gnome-panel crashes *as soon* as I login after gdm. The only error message is "gnome-panel quit unexpectedly". I can then restart it or close it. Both cause the same error. I have no idea why it's happening, that's why I'm here. :)
[08:49] <bob2> brownie17: don't install crap from outside ubuntu
[08:49] <NaVi> man u guys have a link for everthing
[08:49] <brownie17> epiloc, hm.. never heard of it not working, but i highly doubt it
[08:49] <Hobbsee> NaVi: yeah, i used it above too :P
[08:49] <brownie17> bob2, what do you mean? what did i install?
[08:49] <bob2> cevizoglu: http://linux-laptop.net/
[08:49] <skys> i read from spca2xx that i ahve to compile the kernel so that i can install this webcam driver. is there any way to do it? why do i have to compile?
[08:49] <bob2> brownie17: avidemux
[08:49] <Hobbsee> NaVi: google finds lots of useful stuff, if you know what to search for
[08:49] <bob2> brownie17: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood, along with "apt-cache policy avidemux"
[08:49] <ice_1963> navi jest ask bob2
[08:50] <gchilloux> bonjour
[08:50] <NaVi> so if I ask google "how to compile" it will tell u
[08:50] <tuskernini> Good morning, has anyone tried to run photoshop in wine?
[08:50] <alisher> what for?
[08:50] <NaVi> ch engine?
[08:50] <tuskernini> a freind
[08:50] <alisher> you have Gimp
[08:50] <bob2> NaVi: no, there's no such thing as "step by step instruction tocompiling"
[08:50] <tuskernini> i use gimp\
[08:50] <NaVi> oh
[08:50] <bobulor> brownie17, when i type something in the window for a dialogue between us, does it come to you the same way as if i type "brownie17, ...."?
[08:50] <tuskernini> Gimp RULES
[08:50] <epiloc> brownie17: yes, i cant imagine any major co's providing such a high involvement driver for linux
[08:50] <Hobbsee> Navi: well "install .tar.bz linux" is a good start
[08:50] <alisher> ok, for friend there is sth called gimpshop
[08:50] <Hobbsee> NaVi: if you're compiling from source
[08:50] <vbgunz> tuskernini: you're good with the gimp?
[08:51] <bob2> NaVi: what are yo utrying to compile?
[08:51] <tuskernini> i am trying to convert him... the friend.. is a litle slow
[08:51] <skys> is compiling a kernel very complicated?
[08:51] <epiloc> brownie17: we have enough trouble getting our wifi cards to work :)
[08:51] <jamey3> gnome-panel crashes *as soon* as I login after gdm. The only error message is "gnome-panel quit unexpectedly". I can then restart it or close it. Both cause the same error.
[08:51] <alisher> they even adjusted the menus to look like photoshop
[08:51] <NaVi> well at least I'm learning something although it seems like i'm learning how not to be stupid
[08:51] <bob2> brownie17: hoary-extras is apparently incompatible with your system
[08:51] <bob2> brownie17: which is trivially true if you're using breezy
[08:51] <skys> how about what they called a loadable module?
[08:51] <Hobbsee> NaVi: dont worry, we all are stupid at times - some of my responses this morning went into the idiot category
[08:52] <brownie17> bob2, it is!?
[08:52] <brownie17> bob2i am using hoary
[08:52] <jamey3> gnome-panel crashes *as soon* as I login after gdm. The only error message is "gnome-panel quit unexpectedly". I can then restart it or close it. Both cause the same error.
[08:52] <NaVi> is bob2 a bot or search engine
[08:52] <bob2> brownie17: then paste your whole sources.list
[08:52] <brownie17> bob2, so what can i do? buy a shotgun? or is there a slightly more delicate way to do it?/
[08:52] <bob2> NaVi: no
[08:52] <NaVi> oh
[08:52] <NaVi> man that was scary
[08:52] <ice_1963> lol
[08:53] <crimsun> bobulor, so you're using customsink now?
[08:53] <jamey3> can someone help me with me gnome-panel problem?
[08:53] <bob2> brownie17: looks like their packages are broken
[08:53] <brownie17> bob2, i did didn't i?
[08:53] <brownie17> bob2, ok, so it is not me?
[08:53] <bob2> brownie17: what does "apt-cache policy libgcc1" print out?
[08:53] <makkk> is freenx coming back to breezy?
[08:53] <yahalom> after the fix my firefox still crashes, anyone else having this prob?
[08:54] <jamey3> can someone help me with me gnome-panel problem?
[08:54] <bob2> yahalom: does it affect other users on the same machine? are you using binary-only plugins?
[08:54] <brownie17> bob2, well one more question, with kino, i tried to open a .mpg file and it said invalid file type
[08:54] <makkk> jamey3, what is it?
[08:54] <NaVi> wow
[08:54] <bobulor> crimsun, when I open a dialogue box for us, do my messages go to you as if I had typed "crimsun, ..."?
[08:54] <tuskernini> jamey3, i dont have a clue as to what your problem could be.. did you look on the support webpage?
[08:54] <jamey3> makkk, gnome-panel crashes *as soon* as I login after gdm. The only error message is "gnome-panel quit unexpectedly". I can then restart it or close it. Both cause the same error.
[08:54] <nalioth> jamey3: WHAT gnome-panel problem. please repeat the actual question at no shorter than 4 minute intervals
[08:55] <jamey3> makkk, gnome-panel crashes *as soon* as I login after gdm. The only error message is "gnome-panel quit unexpectedly". I can then restart it or close it. Both cause the same error.
[08:55] <yahalom> bob2: every use. binary only plugins. i think so. havent installed any custom ones.
[08:55] <jamey3> I must've repeated it at least every MINUTE
[08:55] <jamey3> jeez
[08:55] <brownie17> bob2 its in flood
[08:55] <vbgunz> YO! how does one person go about setting up shortcut keys to use commands such as "sign, encrypt, decrypt, etc" with GPG? I am looking for a universal method of applying shortcut keys (Ctrl+Alt+S = Sign, Ctrl+Alt+E = encrypt, etc)... please someone help?
[08:55] <bob2> yahalom: are you using java or flash or not?
[08:55] <NaVi> this is weird:# tar xvzf package.tar.gz (or tar xvjf package.tar.bz2)
[08:55] <NaVi> # cd package
[08:55] <NaVi> # ./configure
[08:55] <NaVi> # make
[08:55] <NaVi> # make install
[08:55] <bob2> vbgunz: not possible
[08:55] <windows_ate_my_b> after doing fresh install of ubuntu  ..then adding all the updates..last it was like 300++..it made my system run worse not better.anyone else with th problem??
[08:55] <NaVi> are these codes
[08:56] <makkk> jamey3, sorry, cant help you. not something i know about
[08:56] <bob2> NaVi: that may work on some source trees
[08:56] <NaVi> e
[08:56] <jamey3> makkk, oh okay
[08:56] <bob2> NaVi: in general, you don't compile anything, though
[08:56] <NaVi> I don't know programming
[08:56] <bob2> windows_ate_my_b: if you have encountered problems, please do file bugs
[08:56] <cevizoglu> NaVi: those are basic compile-from-source steps to build oss from source
[08:56] <bob2> NaVi: so why would you try to compile anything?
[08:56] <brownie17> bob2, did you see what the libgcc1 pasted as? whats the answer to my kino question?
[08:56] <bob2> brownie17: never used kino
[08:56] <crimsun> bobulor, no idea, I'm not used to this client.
[08:56] <bob2> brownie17: it looks very much like the hoary-extras is just broken
[08:56] <NaVi> oh
[08:57] <bobulor> crimsun, but in case the dialogue window tab isn't going through, yeah I made the changes as you instructed
[08:57] <bob2> brownie17: try asking on the forums
[08:57] <kingemer> NaVi: those are commands that you type in the shell to configure, compile, and install the source code
[08:57] <brownie17> bob2, you recommended it to me before didn't you? as a video editor!?!?!?!
[08:57] <NaVi> i think I get it
[08:57] <bob2> brownie17: yes...
[08:57] <NaVi> you mean the x11 box
[08:57] <bob2> NaVi: just about everything you could want is in ubuntu already, pre-compiled
[08:57] <kingemer> NaVi: what are you trying to compile?
[08:57] <bob2> NaVi: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto explains how to install things, normally
[08:57] <NaVi> I don't know just asking what it is
[08:57] <crimsun> bobulor, ok, and testing the pipeline gives you...?
[08:57] <vbgunz> bob2, there are n helper programs and work arounds for signing documents from a universal shortcut key?
[08:58] <NaVi> I want to learn
[08:58] <bob2> vbgunz: what are you trying to acheive?
[08:58] <brownie17> bob2, you cahnged your mind about it? why NEVER use it? is it dangerous?
[08:58] <cevizoglu> NaVi, what bob said.  you *don't* want to try building sw when there are packages available
[08:58] <bob2> vbgunz: encrypt things that are on the clipboard?
[08:58] <bobulor> crimsun, "Failed to construct test pipeline for 'Custom"
[08:58] <NaVi> I don't like windows so I will try this'
[08:58] <bob2> brownie17: because I've never had the urge to edit videos
[08:58] <vbgunz> bob2:  just trying to sign documents and clipboard too...
[08:58] <bob2> vbgunz: so, you need to be clearer about your goals
[08:59] <Hobbsee> NaVi: there's a fair bit to learn without compiling your own programs...
[08:59] <bob2> vbgunz: if you had some magic program run when you hit a certain key, what would it do?
[08:59] <vbgunz> everything you would probably do with PGP Desktop 9 in regards to shortcut keys... Was just use to pressing some keys and signing, decrypting, etc
[08:59] <crimsun> bobulor, _uncheck_ System> Preferences> Sound> Enable sound server startup
[08:59] <bob2> vbgunz: I have never used PGP, so I have no idea what it does
[08:59] <NaVi> ok then what should I know first
[08:59] <NaVi> please sir
[09:00] <wrabbit01> I'm trying to ./configure and it keeps telling me bash: ./configure: No such file or directory.  Any ideas?
[09:00] <wrabbit01> What am I doing wrong?
[09:00] <MadpilotPPC> !tell NaVi about synaptic
[09:00] <bob2> wrabbit01: that's pretty clear
[09:00] <wrabbit01> There is no config file
[09:00] <bob2> wrabbit01: the file doesn't exist
[09:00] <wrabbit01> So I can go straight to make?
[09:00] <Hobbsee> wrabbit: did you cd to the directory it's in?
[09:00] <nalioth> wrabbit01: is there a configure script present?
[09:00] <bob2> wrabbit01: no
[09:00] <vbgunz> bob2: i wasn't beating around the bush dude, I ask specifically for a way or method to assign universal shortcut keys to GPG's signing, encryption, etc... I can't find it *or* find info on applying shortcut keys for programs like it *for future reference*....
[09:00] <cafuego_> wrabbit01: You're attempting to compile without having the first clue what is involved. So don't. What are you trying to install?
[09:00] <cevizoglu> wrabbit01, read the INSTALL document
[09:00] <NaVi> synaptic (s-np'tk)
[09:00] <NaVi> adj.
[09:00] <NaVi> Of or relating to synapsis or a synapse: synaptic nerve endings; the synaptic phase in meiosis.
[09:00] <bob2> wrabbit01: you need to read the instructions that came with it
[09:01] <cevizoglu> wrabbit01, or the readme, or whatever text file is there
[09:01] <bob2> wrabbit01: what and why are you trying to compile this?
[09:01] <bobulor> crimsun, I unchecked the thing as you instructed, I still got the same error when I tried to test the pipeline
[09:01] <cafuego_> ... and another new X.
[09:01] <wrabbit01> the only documents that come with world wind are licence and version
[09:01] <bob2> wrabbit01: then talk to the authors
[09:01] <crimsun> bobulor, in a Terminal, lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*
[09:02] <cevizoglu> wrabbit01, is there source code there?
[09:02] <alisher> I thought you dont need to compile world wind, just execute
[09:02] <vbgunz> bob2: PGP isn't just about encrypting stuff... it's used to prove communication clear signed by means it *really* came from you... I use it constantly to slear sign important documents
[09:02] <alisher> there is executable in the tarball
[09:02] <cafuego_> vbgunz: gpg, you mean?
[09:02] <kingemer> NaVi: for doing most things, you shouldnt need to use the shell
[09:02] <NaVi> ok
[09:02] <kingemer> NaVi: if you want to learn, you could try http://linux.org.mt/article/terminal
[09:02] <bob2> vbgunz: to assign random shortcut keys to run programs, use gconf-editor to look at apps/metacity/global_keybindings to define run_command_N, then apps/metacity/keybinding_commands to define what they run
[09:03] <yahalom> anyone know of a text based pdf viewer for console?
[09:03] <vbgunz> yeah, I know the command line bits and installed Seahorse but I did so to try and get at "shortcut keys"
[09:03] <vbgunz> Ctrl+Alt+S = Sign, etc...
[09:03] <alisher> wrabbit01: you dont need to compile worldwind, just click the executable
[09:03] <NaVi> thing is this guys I never ran a pc before ever
[09:03] <Wipe-Out> hey guys
[09:03] <bob2> vbgunz: dude, stop and think, this isn't magic.  seahorse is not magically going to rebind ctrl-alt-s for every single X appliction.
[09:03] <NaVi> Im a mac diehard
[09:03] <NaVi> and who changed my name\
[09:03] <Wipe-Out> how do i install gcc-3.4 it's not in synaptic
[09:03] <NaVi> it was faheton
[09:04] <NaVi> ugh\
[09:04] <brownie17> bob2, when i use "cinepaint" i also get the same type of error.
[09:04] <bob2> Wipe-Out: what are yo utrying to do with it?
[09:04] <bob2> brownie17: ok
[09:04] <ice_1963> well navi it's about time
[09:04] <vbgunz> bob2, dude chill, smoke and mirrors, I appreciate it very much... being still new but trying to apply shortcut keys to something like GPG commands is a bit advanced for me...
[09:04] <brownie17> bob2, well.. .do you know what's wrong?
[09:04] <bob2> brownie17: no
[09:04] <cevizoglu> NaVi: your mac is a pc too, a personal computer..
[09:04] <Wipe-Out> bob2: need it to compile ndiswrapper 1.3
[09:04] <kemik> Wipe-Out:  it is in the repositories
[09:04] <NaVi> so tubuntu is the bestof linux?
[09:04] <bob2> Wipe-Out: the version of ndiswrapper in ubuntu really doesn't work?
[09:04] <bob2> NaVi: no
[09:04] <bob2> NaVi: it's a very nice one for new users, though
[09:05] <Wipe-Out> bob2: nope
[09:05] <kemik> NaVi:  well, that depends on who you ask ;)
[09:05] <bobulor> crimsun, done. nothing happened but Im told that's usually a good thing
[09:05] <NaVi> HEHE'
[09:05] <ice_1963> lol
[09:05] <bob2> Wipe-Out: /msg ubotu repositories
[09:05] <brownie17> NaVi, what it tubuntu?
[09:05] <Wipe-Out> kemik: please be more clear, sorry linux n00b
[09:05] <crimsun> bobulor, paste me what you have in the customsink box
[09:05] <bob2> Wipe-Out: it's in the universe repository
[09:05] <wrabbit01> alisher: That doesn't seem to work.
[09:05] <NaVi> i meant Ubuntu] 
[09:05] <bobulor> crimsun: alsasink device=plughw:0.0
[09:05] <NaVi> ugh'
[09:05] <kemik> !tell Wipe-Out about universe
[09:05] <wrabbit01> When un tarred, it creates a folder called linux and when I cd into linux this is what there is... "Config  Data  Fonts  LICENSE.txt  logo.gif  VERSION.txt  ww2d  ww2d.ico"
[09:05] <alisher> wrabbit01: it worked for me
[09:05] <vbgunz> bob2, thanks your answer I am hoping not only solves the gpg universal shortcut key issue but futurew issues as well... I really enjoy shortcutting my way around the keyboard... thanks!
[09:06] <kemik> !tell Wipe-Out about repositories
[09:06] <crimsun> bobulor, you misread me: alsasink device=plughw:0,0
[09:06] <brownie17> NaVi, oh :) sorry
[09:06] <NaVi> no im a bad typer
[09:06] <alisher> ww2d is the executable
[09:06] <crimsun> bobulor, the use of a period instead of a comma will break things
[09:06] <wrabbit01> alisher: I doublt click on that and nothing happens.
[09:06] <wrabbit01> double*
[09:07] <alisher> maybe you need ./ww2d
[09:07] <bobulor> crimsun, i changed to a comma, the test still failed
[09:07] <vbgunz> kemik: hello bro,
[09:07] <ice_1963> ice :0) at Navi
[09:07] <kemik> gmorning vbgunz
[09:07] <bobulor> crimsun, do the lsof command again?
[09:07] <Wipe-Out> thx guys
[09:07] <alisher> or sh ./ww2d
[09:07] <crimsun> bobulor, lspci -v|grep -i audio
[09:07] <alisher> I forgot, but it was what I did
[09:07] <wrabbit01> alisher: Nope... that just gives me "./ww2d: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[09:07] <wrabbit01> thanks anyway.. I'll keep trying stuff
[09:08] <alisher> so you need libstdc++ to be installed
[09:08] <bob2> wrabbit01: install libstdc++5
[09:08] <vbgunz> man, learned my tidbit for the day and made better steps toward migration... I hope the last bit bob2 has helped with truly does help. I'll find out in the morning...
[09:08] <bobulor> crimsun, I got "0000:00:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0059 (rev a2)
[09:08] <bobulor> "
[09:08] <wrabbit01> Ah, ok.. I'll try to work out how to do that.  Sorry.... first time installing anything.
[09:08] <wrabbit01> Don't mean to be such a newbie.
[09:08] <alisher> wrabbit01: wrabbit and some other dependencies, mentionned at ww2d site, read them
[09:08] <kemik> wrabbit01:  you install it with synaptic
[09:08] <vbgunz> kemik: be cool!, thanks bob2, relax, get a massage or something... if not pizza and beer :P
[09:08] <NaVi> please visit my homepage and take a look at my first pc build and first pc.http://homepage.mac.com/jymac/The_FhaeTon_Project/PhotoAlbum31.html
[09:09] <kemik> vbgunz:  i will;) gtg now tho
[09:09] <vbgunz> thanks fellas!
[09:09] <kemik> peace
[09:09] <crimsun> bobulor, paste the output from cat /proc/asound/devices onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:09] <bob2> wrabbit01: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[09:09] <Wipe-Out> bye kemik
[09:09] <alisher> wrabbit01: WW2D depends on wxWidgets 2.6+ and libCURL so you'll need them to compile from sources and to run dinamically-linked binaries
[09:10] <bob2> alisher: eh? libcurl is in Ubuntu
[09:10] <alisher> I didnt have wxwidgets2.6+, just installed libCURL, but it worked anyway
[09:10] <NaVi> I never new building a comp was so fun
[09:10] <bob2> alisher: as are the wxwdigets libs
[09:11] <alisher> but they werent 2.6 in Hoary
[09:11] <NaVi> but the OS part is not fun
[09:11] <bobulor> crimsun, didn't i destroy the asound file earlier?
[09:11] <Mephist0> hello guys.. i have booted with live cd to save my files.. since my hoary dist is not possible to boot anymore.. how do i mount my harddisk?
[09:11] <crimsun> bobulor, you said you did
[09:11] <NaVi> I think I had a problem with the Hitachi UATA drives so I purchased SATA 3gb drives
[09:11] <NaVi> ] 
[09:12] <ice_1963> Ghost
[09:13] <ice_1963> Boo
[09:13] <Wipe-Out> brb
[09:13] <NaVi> man I'm gonna D/L all this info and read it on my psp
[09:14] <ccooke> *yawn* Wow. Still 20 minutes before I need to leave for work.
[09:14] <ccooke> Mephist0: anyone answered you yet?
[09:16] <vik> Any ideas why my usb drive stops being recognised when I plug it straight into the computer, rather than through a keyboard/hub (as worked previously)?
[09:16] <ccooke> vik: does it have a seperate power supply?
[09:16] <vik> the device has its own power
[09:16] <ccooke> and are we talking a hard disk here?
[09:16] <ccooke> ah
[09:17] <vik> yep - hard disk
[09:17] <ccooke> hmm
[09:17] <ccooke> if you do a 'tail -0f /var/log/kern.log' *before* inserting it, does anything appear when you do?
[09:18] <vik> haven't tried that, but dmesg gives usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3
[09:18] <vik> usb 2-1: device descriptor read/64, error -71
[09:18] <vik>  after inserting
[09:18] <cevizoglu> Mephist0, you need to know which device your volume is and maybe what type of format it is
[09:18] <cevizoglu> Mephist0, then you would do, for example, sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda4 /mnt/my_chosen_vol_name
[09:18] <ccooke> vik: hmm. And it still works in the hub?
[09:18] <vik> yep
[09:18] <bobulor> crimsun, i pasted it with a craptified screenshot because the initial version wasn't in a format the website could find
[09:19] <ccooke> vik: okay. Tried googling for that error?
[09:19] <ccooke> it's not one I've seen myself
[09:19] <cevizoglu> Mephist0, with ext3 being your actual volume type and hda4 being your actual device for your hard disk partition
[09:19] <vik> no - will try it. kern.log gives same error as dmesg
[09:19] <ccooke> yes. kern.log just gets the output of dmesg. It's more convenient to use tail to get it, that's all
[09:21] <crimsun> bobulor, ok, change plughw:0,0 to just hw:0,0
[09:21] <bobulor> crimsun, done. Test it?
[09:21] <crimsun> yep
[09:21] <indypende> someone know if the script easy ubuntu work also for the 64bit version?
[09:21] <bobulor> crimsun, same error
[09:23] <Mephist0> ccooke, yeah now.. :) .. i was reading the wiki dokumentation too..
[09:23] <bobulor> crimsun, the test didn't work
[09:23] <Mephist0> cevizoglu, what is the usual filesystem.. is that ext3? .. well my hd is hda.. i made a dmseg
[09:23] <vik> ccooke: just got it to work by issuing 'echo N > /sys/module/usbcore/parameters/old_scheme_first'
[09:24] <Mephist0> mount /dev/hda /hda
[09:24] <cevizoglu> Mephist0, you could have formatted your drive as ext2, ext3, reiserfs, etc.
[09:24] <vik> might be something related to old motherboard/usb controller and new device...
[09:24] <Mephist0> okis..
[09:24] <ccooke> vik: Interesting. can you give me the URL you found that? I'd like to know more
[09:24] <Mephist0> cevizoglu, okis..
[09:24] <vik> ccooke: http://www.mepis.org/node/5860
[09:24] <ccooke> vik: sounds sensible.
[09:24] <crimsun> bobulor, ok, change it to ossink
[09:24] <crimsun> bobulor, osssink, rather
[09:24] <ccooke> thanks
[09:25] <bobulor> crimsun, I changed the Output to OSS-Open Sound System. It changed the Pipeline on its own
[09:25] <bobulor> crimsun, Pipeline is all grayed out now. Test it?
[09:25] <vik> what is the Ubuntu Way to change options for kernel modules (i.e. things that once upon a time would have gone in /etc/modules.conf)?
[09:26] <Mephist0> cevizoglu, what is the most usal filesystem then? that ubuntu uses to format drives? is that ext3?
[09:26] <ccooke> vik: look under /etc/modutils
[09:27] <ccooke> same syntax, but it's broken into files that packages can simply drop in
[09:27] <Kenshin12345> hi all
[09:27] <Kenshin12345> need help :'-(
[09:27] <transgress> whatcha need?
[09:27] <nalioth> Kenshin12345: ask
[09:27] <vik> ccooke - this is a bit wierd - the correction on the bottom of said website says it should be 'echo Y' not 'echo N', but 'echo N' worked for me anyway.
[09:27] <crimsun> bobulor, yes
[09:27] <ccooke> vik: heh
[09:27] <cevizoglu> Mephist0, I don't know the default, it's either ext3 or reiserfs
[09:28] <Kenshin12345> Well I d/led gaim 1.5.0 and am trying to update my gaim-1.4.0 to it
[09:28] <ccooke> Default is ext3
[09:28] <cevizoglu> Mephist0, are you getting errors?
[09:28] <Mephist0> cevizoglu, then it must be ext3... i recognize that..
[09:28] <bobulor> crimsun, same error. BTW, should Default Source have input with OSS too?
[09:28] <vik> ccooke - just add a file with the options in modutils?
[09:28] <Mephist0> cevizoglu, root@c-a9c271d5:/home/ubuntu # mount -t ext3 /dev/hda /hda
[09:28] <Mephist0> mount: /dev/hda already mounted or /hda busy
[09:28] <ccooke> cevizoglu: mount will automatically determine it anyway, in almost all cases.
[09:28] <transgress> Kenshin12345: did you download a .deb of it?
[09:28] <cevizoglu> ccooke, I know
[09:29] <cevizoglu> ccooke, unless it's hfsplus, ntfs, hfs, etc.
[09:29] <Kenshin12345> umm....ubuntu5.04.tar.gz
[09:29] <ccooke> vik: yes. I'd suggest calling it something like "usbcore.usersettings" so you don't conflict with any possible future usbcore file from a package
[09:29] <loststryk> morning all; has anyone had any experiance of installing pftpfxp-mew?
[09:29] <crimsun> bobulor, source doesn't matter
[09:29] <transgress> Kenshin12345: if you wait or go ahead and upgrade it's in breezy... which is due out in like a week or some shit.. and stable as can be.
[09:29] <crimsun> bobulor, ok. You'll need to compile newer ALSA drivers.
[09:29] <transgress> okay not as can be... but pretty close
[09:29] <crimsun> !tell bobulor about alsa-source
[09:29] <Kenshin12345> k
[09:30] <Wipe-Out> and i'm back...
[09:30] <Kenshin12345> k
[09:30] <Mephist0> cevizoglu, i forgot the digit 1... hda1 ......
[09:30] <vik> ccooke - then update-modules?
[09:30] <ccooke> transgress: it's stable enough for me to run it on my laptop which I use for work, but changing too much for me to install it on everything else
[09:30] <Wipe-Out> gcc-3.4 is not in the reposetories
[09:30] <bobulor> crimsun, holy cow
[09:30] <crimsun> Wipe-Out, yes it is
[09:30] <Kenshin12345> also...How do I get rid of having to type 'sudo' all the time and is it a good idea to get rid of it?
[09:30] <Wipe-Out> no it isn't
[09:31] <nalioth> Kenshin12345: it is not a good idea
[09:31] <siimo> Wipe-Out, what repo you looking
[09:31] <ccooke> vik: /etc/init.d/module-init-tools restart
[09:31] <transgress> ccooke: i've changed to it on my lappy and desktop.
[09:31] <Wipe-Out> all of them
[09:31] <Kenshin12345> kk
[09:31] <bobulor> crimsun, what does all that mean? Is that whole thing in step 2 a single command?
[09:31] <Kenshin12345> k, next one
[09:31] <ccooke> transgress: other people use my other computers, so...
[09:31] <transgress> ccooke: and i use both for work.  only problem i had was recently fixed due to my bug report
[09:31] <siimo> Wipe-Out, well i have it so you must not have /all/ of them
[09:31] <crimsun> Wipe-Out, so http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=gcc-3.4 is lying?
[09:31] <Wipe-Out> i selected all reloaded and no gcc-3.4
[09:31] <Pyt3r> how config apt with repositor of sarge ???????
[09:31] <Kenshin12345> ....I have a couple of sata drives that I can't figure out how to access
[09:31] <ccooke> transgress: what was that?
[09:31] <Mephist0> cevizoglu, now it works fine.. thx man!
[09:31] <bobulor> crimsun, everything after "... terminal:" that is
[09:32] <Kenshin12345> they are both broken up into 2 partitions
[09:32] <vik> ccooke - more info on the issue at: http://www.spinics.net/lists/usb/msg02644.html
[09:32] <siimo> Pyt3r, sarge???
[09:32] <transgress> ccooke: fixed fonts bug... they needed to add a dep to one of the packages.
[09:32] <cevizoglu> Mephist0, yw
[09:32] <Pyt3r> siimo, yes!
[09:32] <Wipe-Out> crimsum: don;t know i'll have a look at it
[09:32] <crimsun> bobulor, yes
[09:32] <ice_1963> sudo passwd root
[09:32] <siimo> sarge is not ubuntu its incompatible
[09:32] <transgress> ccooke: it only seems to happen if you have both kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop
[09:32] <Pyt3r> siimo, because ubuntu repositor's , have many packages
[09:33] <Kenshin12345> ??
[09:33] <bobulor> crimsun, does the && tell the machine that it has different commands? And can I just copy and paste directly into terminal?
[09:33] <crimsun> bobulor, copy and paste it.
[09:33] <Kenshin12345> How do I mount my drives....I kno it's a major n00bish question but u gotta start sumwhere
[09:33] <Kenshin12345> ...
[09:33] <siimo> Kenshin12345, what drives
[09:34] <Pyt3r> siimo, you can help me?
[09:34] <ccooke> vik: ah... *interesting*
[09:34] <siimo> Pyt3r, with what? you cannot use sarge repo's with ubuntu
[09:34] <bobulor> crimsun, it won't let me copy and paste, I'll let you know how it works out one im done typing it in.
[09:34] <NSK> hi
[09:34] <Wipe-Out> okay screw the reposotries
[09:34] <Kenshin12345> 2 sata drives
[09:34] <ccooke> hmm. Better go to work.
[09:34] <Wipe-Out> how do i install it manualy
[09:35] <ice_1963> i can i run sid lol
[09:35] <Pyt3r> siimo, but ubuntu repositer's have many packages
[09:35] <cevizoglu> Wipe-Out, dpkg
[09:35] <Kenshin12345> how do I private msg/chat??
[09:35] <siimo> Wipe-Out, post your /etc/apt/sources.list on pastebin.ca
[09:35] <siimo> Pyt3r, whats wrong with having many packages? you dont download the ones you dont need
[09:35] <NSK> how are ubuntu releases numbered?
[09:35] <loststryk> hi guys; i know you guys probably don't support 3rd party spftware; but am trying to install pftpfxp-mew on 5.04; however it has issues with openssl; does anybody have any experiance with this problm ?
[09:35] <grndslm> NSK: by date
[09:35] <Wipe-Out> siimo: please lamemans terms please i'm n00b
[09:35] <Seveas> NSK, by the month they are released
[09:35] <Travis|H> hmm i'm connecting to a nsv (nullsoft video stream) which is basically a VP6 + mp3 broadcast over a shoutcast server .......... it plays using mplayer but its very badly out of sync ... any ideas?
[09:35] <siimo> NSK, year.month 5.04 is 2005 april
[09:36] <NSK> Kenshin12345: /query nickname
[09:36] <NSK> oh, I see!
[09:36] <NSK> thanks
[09:36] <Pyt3r> siimo, how add image in my boot loader ?
[09:36] <siimo> Wipe-Out, maybe because of language differences you arent saying exactly what you want
[09:36] <eliphas_> when do they plan to fill in the backports for breezy ?
[09:36] <siimo> opps sorry
[09:37] <Jack_B> Travis|H, how did you set mplayer to stream from shoutcast servers?
[09:37] <alisher> backports for Breezy?
[09:37] <NSK> is 5.10 preview good enough for production desktop use or should I prefer 5.04 ?
[09:37] <siimo> Wipe-Out, open /etc/apt/sources.list in a text editor copy the stuff and post it on that website and give me a link to it
[09:37] <alisher> backporting from what?
[09:37] <nalioth> eliphas_: when they finish making breezy
[09:37] <siimo> NSK, 5.10 is not out
[09:37] <amichai> when i try to run root apps i get this: Failed to run /usr/bin/update-manager as user root: Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.
[09:37] <amichai> any ideas?
[09:37] <Wipe-Out> siimo: well i need to install gcc-3.4 to compile ndiswrapper 1.3
[09:37] <siimo> Pyt3r, why would you want to add one manually its automatic
[09:37] <MadpilotPPC> !tell amichai about root
[09:37] <eliphas_> thanks all :)I will try to be a bit more patient then :)
[09:38] <Pyt3r> siimo, who?
[09:38] <siimo> Wipe-Out, i want to see what sources you have currently so please post that files contents somwhere i can read it
[09:38] <Wipe-Out> siimo: this i need because without it i can;t connect to the net with my screwy aptop
[09:38] <NSK> I need a stable desktop for production use. would you warn against the use of 5.10-preview ?
[09:38] <Travis|H> Jack_B: just used "mplayer http://www.streamurl.com/stream01.nsv"
[09:38] <Wipe-Out> siimo: please wait then i need to reboot into linux first
[09:38] <siimo> NSK, well it wont be supported if you use a development release
[09:38] <Jack_B> Travis|H, k
[09:39] <amichai> anyone?
[09:39] <Travis|H> i just don't know what the deal is with my audio .. it's not synced to the video at all
[09:39] <NSK> won't I be able to update to 5.10-final from 5.10-preview ?
[09:39] <cevizoglu> Travis|H, it's a known issue with mplayer
[09:39] <siimo> NSK, yeah you will be
[09:40] <siimo> NSK, it should be stable enough right now but if you run into trouble people will say why didnt you use stable version
[09:40] <NSK> ok I see thanks
[09:40] <siimo> or wait a few weeks and get the final version
[09:42] <bobulor> crimsun, it's cranking away at stuff. It said that more disk space would be used after unpacking and asked if i wanted to continue, I said yes
[09:43] <bobulor> crimsun, do i let it build Alsa drivers with ISA PnP support?
[09:43] <crimsun> bobulor, the bot told you
[09:44] <bobulor> crimsun, no, it just mentioned something about the universal repository and gave the bigass command. It gave no further instructions
[09:44] <bobulor> crimsun, if it had i wuldn;t have asked you about it
[09:44] <bobulor> crimsun, btw what is the universal repository?
[09:44] <crimsun> !repos
[09:44] <Travis|H> hmm i think i fixed the sync issue buy just channging the latency to 600ms .. yay
[09:44] <ubotu> from memory, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[09:45] <crimsun> bobulor, it's getting late, and I need to sleep.
[09:45] <bobulor> crimsun, what does the "from memory" thing mean?
[09:45] <bobulor> crimsun, ok
[09:46] <B_166-ER-X> looks like a dont want to answer :P
[09:49] <Oxus> i upgraded to breezy some weeks ago. I use aptitude to receive the last upgrades and now, i can't finish the upgrade. The program downloads all the files, do the order preconfiguring packages...but when it's reading the database, the system blocks. Do you know how to solve it?
[09:50] <cafuego_> !bot
[09:50] <ubotu> I'm a bot, I'm a bot. Set fire to me, I'll get hot. Reply to cafuego_? I think not. Bot, knot, chicken... rhyming sucks.
[09:50] <cevizoglu> what does "HP-ized Breezy" mean?
[09:50] <B_166-ER-X> breezy = unstable version..
[09:50] <loststryk> that it's fruity ?
[09:50] <Seveas> cevizoglu, special version for HP machines
[09:53] <calvin> can anyone tell me how to install linux programs in ubuntu
[09:53] <calvin> >
[09:54] <Seveas> calvin, applications -> add applications
[09:54] <Seveas> or system -> administration -> synaptic
[09:54] <AvatarofVirgo> I have ubuntu installed as a dual boot next to suse, I'm on suse right now because ubuntu wont auto detect my external seriel modem.  Any idea why?
[09:55] <Travis|H> is there a way to run a progam without having to launch a terminal .. i don't see a "Run" option on the menus
[09:56] <alisher> Alt+F2
[09:56] <B_166-ER-X> well i have one in applications
[09:56] <nalioth> cafuego_: why is ubotu in #ubuntu-offtopic?
[09:56] <Travis|H> thanks alisher
[09:56] <Seveas> nalioth, I put him there
[09:56] <Seveas> comes in handy at times
[09:56] <alisher> Hoary has "Run" in the menu, Breezy not
[09:57] <B_166-ER-X> had breezy a few days before it crashed ; i saw something similar in there thought
[09:57] <bobulor> arrgh
[09:57] <alisher> yes it was:)
[09:57] <alisher> but anyway, AltF2 is handier than going to the menu
[09:58] <calvin> i STILL CAN'T FIGURE OUT FROM EITHER OF THOSE HOW TO SELECT MY PROGRAM TO INSTALL
[09:58] <calvin> sorry, caps
[09:58] <Seveas> calvin, caps won't help...
[09:58] <B_166-ER-X> cruise control for annoying.
[09:58] <Seveas> calvin, if you use synaptic: use the search, click on a package and mark it for installation
[09:58] <Seveas> then hit apply
[09:58] <calvin> sorry, I can't type and look at the screen yet
[09:59] <bobulor> seveas, I was downloading some repositories. After each download, the repository list would increase with a new item named after the apt. Is that normal?
[10:00] <Seveas> bobulor, that line makes little sense to me
[10:00] <Seveas> 'downloading repositories'?
[10:00] <jamey3> I have figured that my gnome-panel problem is user-specific; it only happens to my account. Which config files can I delete/modify so that gnome-panel restores to the default config? I've tried removing the .gnome* and .gconf directories so far, to no help.
[10:00] <Seveas> .gconfd
[10:00] <cevizoglu> bobulor, give an example of the new item named after the apt?
[10:00] <alisher> he meant added repositories though
[10:00] <jamey3> Seveas, ah thanks :)
[10:01] <alisher> sure the list would get one item more
[10:01] <bobulor> seveas, checking them, clicking custom, adding deb http://www.grawert.net/ubuntu/ warty universe, and clicking ok to let it do its thing
[10:01] <Seveas> bobulor, well, what that does is adding things to the sources.list
[10:01] <Seveas> so yeah, completely normal :)
[10:02] <munkeman> hello all im a new ubuntu user just wanted to drop in and say i switched from fedora
[10:03] <Seveas> munkeman, welcome to the light side :)
[10:03] <munkeman> and luv ubuntu
[10:03] <Jack_B> welcome dude
[10:03] <bobulor> seveas, crimsun was trying to help me update my alsa drivers. I have no idea whats going on. but anyway he bailed on me so he could sleep when I had a list on my terminal screen that asked which alsa drivers to build. Only one thing had an asterisk next to it and i tried to selesct others by pressing enter. I guess I messed up. It immediately cranked away at a bunch of stuff
[10:03] <SlicerDicer-> Seveas, its the darkside with lightside powers like Dr. Evil but without the evil laugh :)
[10:03] <jamey3> Seveas, I've now tried removing .gconf, .gconfd (it didn't exist), .gnome2, .gnome2_private. I then ctrl+alt+backspace, re-login and the problem persists.
[10:04] <bobulor> seveas, it finished but now my command prompt reads: robert@bobulor:/usr/src/mudoles/alsa-drivers$
[10:04] <Seveas> jamey3, logout, login in the console, clean out /tmp
[10:04] <aftertaf> re
[10:04] <jamey3> Seveas, thanks brb then
[10:04] <SlicerDicer-> btw is there any update on perhaps when nvidia drivers may be working with AMD64 and breezy? I havent been able to find any information on it
[10:04] <jamey3> btw how do you initiate a gnome logout from the terminal?
[10:05] <Seveas> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:05] <deepwoodz> i have a problem... my screen resolution is very small... and it wont allow me to change it to fullsize... i have a intergrated intel processor
[10:05] <jamey3> ah of course
[10:05] <jamey3> thanks
[10:05] <Seveas> !resolution
[10:05] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:05] <deepwoodz> cand anyone help me?
[10:05] <bobulor> dammit
[10:05] <deepwoodz> can*
[10:05] <aftertaf> deepwoodz:  sing and someone will hear :)
[10:05] <Seveas> rofl
[10:06] <bobulor> now none of my sound works
[10:09] <bobulor> i guess i'll see you all later, then.
[10:09] <aftertaf> :/
[10:09] <cevizoglu> bobulor, did you type in the script or copy and paste it?
[10:09] <bobulor> cevizolglu, i have no earthly idea
[10:09] <Seveas> bobulor, crimsun is the resident alsa guru, my alsa knowledge is close to 0
[10:09] <Seveas> better wait for him to return
[10:09] <Chafff> Salut tout le monde
[10:09] <Skid> hola
[10:09] <Skid> ;P
[10:09] <Chafff> voil l je fait mes premiers pas sous linux
[10:09] <cevizoglu> bobulor: I thought you said earlier you were typing it in
[10:09] <aftertaf> Chafff:  salut, bravo, mais en anglais pour pas facher les gens ;)...... et encore fliciations
[10:09] <Chafff> of course
[10:09] <bobulor> seveas, i know, and he bailed on me to go sleep in the middle doing something. so with him gone for the night there's nothing i can do
[10:09] <xuniluser> How do i cancel/remove print jobs?
[10:09] <Chafff> thank you aftertaf
[10:09] <aftertaf> Chafff:  you using the live cd?
[10:09] <aftertaf> 2rien ;)
[10:09] <bob2> Seveas: what was with the ban on browie17?
[10:09] <bobulor> cevizoglu, all i've typed is what i was told by various websites or ubotu
[10:09] <Chafff> I will speack in english to make all the people happy
[10:09] <Wipe-Out> and i'm back again
[10:09] <cevizoglu> bobulor, you could try pasting the script ubotu gave you into your terminal and running it
[10:10] <bobulor> cevizoglu, at this point though, my level of frustration makes it tempting to solve the problem with the only thing that solves all problems: fire.
[10:10] <Chafff> yes I use the live cd
[10:10] <cevizoglu> bobulor, don't type it in, if you get a single character wrong you could mess the whole thing up
[10:10] <aftertaf> Chafff:  ubuntu is good :)
[10:10] <Chafff> yes
[10:10] <Seveas> bob2, bot abuse
[10:10] <Cryptid> How do i download .deb files i just download Java and W32codecs but i am unable to figure out how to install them do i use dpkg or apt-get to install them
[10:11] <Wipe-Out> lol
[10:11] <Chafff> but I have some problem to have the double screen
[10:11] <Seveas> he apologized already
[10:11] <alisher> sudo dpkg -i ...deb
[10:11] <aftertaf> Cryptid:  try getting them auto with apt-get or synaptic...
[10:11] <Chafff> cause I have two screen
[10:11] <bobulor> well anyway. Im out of here. I'll come back and beg crimsun for more help tomorrow i guess
[10:11] <aftertaf> instead of manual d/ling
[10:11] <Cryptid> aftertaf, its not in synaptic
[10:11] <aftertaf> Chafff:  alors la, i cant help ;)
[10:12] <aftertaf> Cryptid:  my 2 pence worth...
[10:12] <Chafff> evil
[10:12] <Wipe-Out> siimo, are you still there?
[10:12] <aftertaf> Chafff:  there is also #ubuntu-fr in case ;)
[10:13] <Wipe-Out> guys i've got the feeling my sourcelist is screwy
[10:13] <Wipe-Out> http://pastebin.ca/24094
[10:13] <Wipe-Out> is it okay?
[10:13] <jamey3> Seveas, I've removed all of those hidden config directories in my ~, then wiped out everything in /tmp, rebooted and gnome-panel still crashes. Is there anyway to delete my user account, then recreate it with a "default" gnome config?
[10:13] <Chafff> cann we make a private conversation aftertaf to speack about ubuntu and linux ?
[10:14] <Seveas> jamey3, sure, make sure you have a new account first
[10:14] <linner> aftertaf:  hello :)
[10:14] <aftertaf> Chafff:  a bit later, yes... pas de pb...
[10:14] <linner> nalioth:  hello :)
[10:14] <Seveas> then do: sudo adduser newaccount_username admin
[10:14] <lorenzod> jamey3, gnome-panel is a bit ustable atm.
[10:14] <Seveas> then login as that user
[10:14] <Seveas> and do:
[10:14] <jamey3> lorenzod, why's that?
[10:14] <Seveas> sudo userdel old_username
[10:14] <lorenzod> But it shouldn't constanty crash.
[10:14] <Seveas> sudo rm -r /home/old_username
[10:15] <lorenzod> jamey3, bugs, I guess..
[10:15] <Seveas> sudo adduser old_username
[10:15] <Seveas> sudo adduser old_username admin
[10:15] <jamey3> Seveas, okay... my current username is "james" so I'll just create "jamey" and mv my old home dir *files* over
[10:15] <lorenzod> If I try to add an applet to a panel, it works,
[10:15] <linner> cafuego:  remember my time/date issue.... it's still happening?
[10:15] <jamey3> Seveas, so just make sure I add it to the admin group?
[10:15] <Seveas> jamey3, sounds like a plan
[10:15] <lorenzod> Adding a second one consistantly crashes gnome-panel..
[10:15] <Seveas> yes, the admin group are the people who can use sudo
[10:15] <jamey3> "second one"?
[10:15] <jamey3> Seveas, cool thanks
[10:16] <lorenzod> A second applet, that is.
[10:16] <Chafff> www.agence-bitoku.com
[10:16] <jamey3> the weird thing is I haven't added/modified anything from the default GNOME panel and applet config...
[10:16] <jamey3> anyway brb gonna try migrating user accounts
[10:16] <lorenzod> Btw, jamey3, which version of gnome-panel are you using?
[10:17] <jamey3> lorenzod, don't know... whichever is latest in Ubuntu hoary
[10:17] <lorenzod> OK.
[10:17] <vikash> hi anybody help
[10:17] <linner> wb aftertaf_
[10:17] <lorenzod> vikash, help can only be given once the problem is known..
[10:18] <vikash> other computers on network using windows can't access my system
[10:18] <vikash> i am using ubuntu 5.10
[10:18] <jamey3> how can I get into the Ubuntu recovery mode on boot up btw?
[10:18] <vikash> hi lorenzod
[10:18] <cevizoglu> vikash: and you've set up samba?
[10:18] <vikash> i wrote the prob
[10:18] <vikash> i installed from synaptic
[10:19] <vikash> how can i configure it
[10:19] <vikash> samba and it's packages
[10:19] <cevizoglu> !tell vikash about samba
[10:19] <linner> aftertaf_:  still having proxy issues?
[10:19] <vikash> what
[10:19] <cevizoglu> vikash: you have to configure it, please read the wiki
[10:19] <lorenzod> jamey3, when you get the grub boot message, hit escape.
[10:19] <vikash> i add a folder in shared folder
[10:19] <jamey3> lorenzod, thanks :)
[10:20] <jamey3> brb
[10:20] <vikash> wiki
[10:20] <vikash> where website
[10:20] <co_jomblo> hh
[10:20] <vikash> hi cevizoglu
[10:20] <cevizoglu> vikash, it's the info ubotu sent you
[10:20] <vikash> can u tell me how to configure it
[10:21] <vikash> where
[10:21] <vikash> they sent
[10:21] <cevizoglu> vikash, huh?
[10:21] <vikash> where is it in system
[10:21] <vikash> plz tell me plz plz
[10:22] <cevizoglu> vikash, go to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba           <- to see how to do it
[10:23] <vikash> ok i
[10:23] <vikash> will try
[10:23] <wrabbit01> ARG! :( I give up.
[10:23] <vikash> thanx
[10:23] <wrabbit01> For now at least.
[10:23] <Echelon-H> how can I know my cdrw path?
[10:27] <SlicerDicer-> btw is there any update on perhaps when nvidia drivers may be working with AMD64 and breezy? I havent been able to find any information on it
[10:30] <calvin> I'm back and am still having trouble installing the mpg player on ubuntu, from the very begining can someone help me?
[10:30] <linner> OK.... between the time i just rebooted (10 minutes ago) and now.... my password to run synaptic has failed.  I haven't changed it either.
[10:31] <linner> ok now it works....
[10:31] <ccooke-work> Right, that *does* it.
[10:31] <cevizoglu> linner, you typed it wrong
[10:32] <ccooke-work> What is the *canonical* *default* *whatever* method of setting up networking in Ubuntu?
[10:32] <ccooke-work> and whose head do I have to break about it?
[10:32] <cevizoglu> linner, not like I installed a keylogger on your machine or anything  :D
[10:32] <calvin> ?can anyone help me with installing a mpg player?
[10:33] <cevizoglu> !tell calvin about easyaddprograms
[10:33] <linner> cevizoglu:  must have been... i typed it four times before i posted in the channel
[10:33] <linner> cevizoglu:  hehehehehe
[10:33] <calvin> that still isn't helping me, when I open that, how do I find the program to install?
[10:34] <ccooke-work> Anyone? Anyone I could talk to about it before I write my own system *again*?
[10:34] <cevizoglu> calvin, you should use synaptic, then there are several
[10:34] <cevizoglu> !players
[10:34] <ubotu> it has been said that players is Audio/MP3 Players: amaroK, Beep-media-player, JuK, Rhythmbox, XMMS ; Video players: Totem, Xine, Mplayer, VLC
[10:35] <calvin> I installed everything that said mpeg but what player do they work with?
[10:35] <bob2> ccooke-work: wtf
[10:35] <bob2> ccooke-work: /etc/network/interfaces
[10:35] <cevizoglu> calvin: read above
[10:36] <ccooke-work> bob2: No. That is not an acceptable solution. I can do some clever things with it, sure, but it does not deal with being on different networks at all well.
[10:36] <calvin> the only one in the list is totem and xmms and neither of those will open my files
[10:36] <bob2> whingewhingewhinge
[10:36] <bob2> ccooke-work: loop at laptop-net or network-manager then
[10:36] <calvin> totem says no plugin installed
[10:36] <ccooke-work> I've been trying to get along with the network settinfs in the Ubuntu menus, but they're pretty much unusable for a laptop.
[10:36] <cevizoglu> calvin, you need to add more repositories then
[10:36] <bob2> and stop having such a terrible attitude
[10:37] <tanya> #irc
[10:37] <calvin> this is my first day in linux anything
[10:37] <cevizoglu> !tell calvin about repositories
[10:37] <vladuz976> why doesn't ubuntu show the contents of /etc/motd when i log in a new terminal?
[10:37] <ccooke-work> bob2: terrible? No. Irritated, yes.
[10:37] <bob2> ccooke-work: well, whatever
[10:38] <bob2> ccooke-work: whinging won't help; improving laptop-net or network-manager to do what you want, would.
[10:38] <ccooke-work> bob2: isn't there a solution in main I could help with?
[10:39] <bob2> ccooke-work: network-manager will go into main when it's less buggy
[10:39] <bob2> it was hoped that would be pre-breezy, but it was not to be
[10:39] <ccooke-work> bob2: ahhhh. So that was the answer to my question.
[10:39] <ccooke-work> bob2: *great*
[10:39] <ccooke-work> I'll go look at it right away
[10:40] <ccooke-work> I wonder if it does things the way I do :-)
[10:41] <adl> vladuz976, you can enable it by adding a line to /etc/profile
[10:42] <vladuz976> adl, what line?
[10:42] <ccooke-work> bob2: ... Hmm. Impressive. Thank you so much.
[10:42] <jamey3> Seveas, thank you very much... it worked perfectly. :-)
[10:43] <crodler> hi
[10:43] <jamey3> hi crodler
[10:43] <adl> vladuz976, a "cat /etc/motd"
[10:43] <henk> good morning...
[10:43] <crodler> is there any working iax client for hoary?
[10:44] <gorilla> hint: for xchat users join the #ubuntu channel last, to allow for xchat to authenticate your nick before attempting to join #ubuntu.
[10:44] <aftertaf_> gorilla:  :)
[10:44] <sorush20> when I try to go into administerator mode in the network settings, I don't see a button to let me go into that mood
[10:44] <henk> I have my desktop set up pretty good now, what whould i need to display and use it remotely on a windows box. (@ work that is)
[10:44] <sorush20> can someone help please.
[10:45] <jamey3> henk, turn on "Remote Desktop" then make sure the port is forwarded
[10:45] <Skid> neverball is quiet fun :)
[10:45] <jamey3> henk, make sure you put a password on it too
[10:45] <henk> jamey3, i was more talking about the client side
[10:45] <Skid> I can see that i'm going to waste hours on that :)
[10:45] <dawkirst> Hello people.
[10:45] <henk> i found the remote desktop thing, but now what :)
[10:45] <jamey3> henk, oh right well just use some sort of VNC viewer, e.g. WinVNC or TightVNC
[10:45] <gorilla> whats neverball?
[10:45] <dawkirst> I seem to have some difficulties concerning my printer.
[10:45] <jamey3> henk, tick the first checkbox and enter a password at the bottom
[10:45] <henk> ah ok any recomendations ?
[10:46] <Skid> gorilla: it's like monkeyball - apt-get install neverball
[10:46] <henk> or should just try 'm out
[10:46] <Skid> fun :)
[10:46] <gorilla> dawkirst, which printer?
[10:46] <Skid> http://icculus.org/neverball/#screenshots
[10:46] <dawkirst> gorilla: it's a HP Deskjet 610C.
[10:46] <jamey3> henk, yeah both are pretty good, setting their options so that it works at a reasonable speed is the difficult bit
[10:47] <ColonelKernel> lol @ waterboy
[10:47] <jamey3> woops
[10:47] <henk> hmm the passwordfield is limited to 8 chars... wierd
[10:47] <ColonelKernel> "you can do eet - cut hees ******* head off!"
[10:47] <ColonelKernel> i forgot about that part
[10:48] <jamey3> henk, yeah I've only just noticed that :)
[10:48] <dawkirst> gorilla
[10:48] <dawkirst> gorilla, any suggestions?
[10:48] <jamey3> henk, you might want to untick "Ask for confirmation"
[10:48] <henk> i did already
[10:48] <jamey3> k
[10:48] <gorilla> dawkirst, not really it should just work... :-/
[10:49] <dawkirst> gorilla: well, it does, but the printed material comes out all in scrambled symbols and greek letters....
[10:50] <henk> jamey3, is it the vino-server @ port 5900 ?
[10:50] <linner> aftertaf:  are you there dear?
[10:50] <aftertaf> yep ;)
[10:50] <bzimage> henk, vnc you mean?
[10:50] <aftertaf> can you see my reply?
[10:50] <henk> uhu
[10:50] <bzimage> yep.. 5900
[10:50] <bzimage> :)
[10:50] <aftertaf> in cyberhell, noone can hear you peer disconnect :/
[10:50] <henk> k i'll forward that
[10:51] <bzimage> aftertaf, lol
[10:51] <bzimage> :P
[10:51] <aftertaf> ahhhhh. coooooool
[10:51] <aftertaf> thought id become virtual
[10:51] <gorilla> dawkirst, you need to install a postcript converter.. unfortunately i'm not sure what's involved.
[10:51] <bzimage> *bip bip Flib*
[10:51] <nalioth> aftertaf: c'mon man, enough denials
[10:52] <nalioth> aftertaf: we KNOW you
[10:52] <aftertaf> dunno nalioth, does it come in 5's?
[10:52] <aftertaf> nalioth:  are you on ritalin?
[10:52] <linner> you're too much aftertaf
[10:52] <deepwoodz> i have a problem... my screen resolution is very small... and it wont allow me to change it to fullsize... i have a intergrated intel processor... it tells me to run a command on ubuntu's site but how do i do that?
[10:52] <deepwoodz> :|
[10:53] <nalioth> deepwoodz: in a terminal
[10:53] <deepwoodz> i c
[10:53] <deepwoodz> ty
[10:53] <aftertaf> i got worried my lag counter had stopped working
[10:54] <aftertaf> linner:  you on the correct time now?
[10:54] <linner> nope
[10:54] <linner> ;(I
[10:54] <linner> aftertaf:  did you get my messages dude?
[10:54] <nalioth> bzimage: many things are simple in the terminal (conversely, you can find yourself hip-deep in alligators with one stroke of the "enter" key)
[10:54] <RMeist> 2.6.12-9-386
[10:54] <dawkirst> gorilla: ty; what exactly is the definition of a postcript tho?
[10:54] <bzimage> nalioth, true tue
[10:54] <aftertaf> linner:  pink floyd? yep i did. you get mine?
[10:54] <linner> nope :(
[10:55] <aftertaf> hangon...
[10:55] <aftertaf> mode +e
[10:56] <linner> hello?
[10:56] <gorilla> dawkirst, postscript is a langauge that better laser printers use.
[10:56] <Skid> hrm, this mac-on-linux, does it require a PPC arch?
[10:56] <mjr> Skid, yes
[10:56] <Skid> mjr: alright cheers - I will have to break my girls laptop instead of mine then :P
[10:56] <dawkirst> gorilla: ty. Is there anyway I can detect the printer plugged into my machine?
[10:56] <mjr> Skid, see qemu or pearpc for running PPC macoses on x86 Linux. Slowly, tho.
[10:57] <Skid> aye, I've used pearpc before, didn't like it
[10:57] <Skid> plus, it doesn't like tiger
[10:57] <cg1> hi everyone, can some tell me how to use dpkg-buildpackage?  i am trying to set up my thumb buttons on my mouse and need to install the logitech tarball
[10:57] <gorilla> dawkirst, I'm not sure... I don't have a printer here... :-(
[10:57] <cat> cg1: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 or xorg
[10:57] <cat> !set up x
[10:57] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, cat
[10:58] <cg1> thx cat
[10:58] <dawkirst> gorilla: ty all the same :)
[10:58] <cat> np
[10:59] <linner> oh no... here we go again aftertaf
[11:01] <dmacdonald111> Hi all. I have been installing ubuntu, gnome and have been trying to set up my wireless network. I know how to do this, however, I seem to be having problems registering as owner to make the required changes. Can anyone help?
[11:01] <nalioth> !tell dmacdonald111 about root
[11:04] <dmacdonald111> Thank you! That's extremely helpful.
[11:04] <dmacdonald111> :)
[11:04] <bzimage> it still amazes me: the linux user root. (it a vegetable!)
[11:04] <bzimage> 's
[11:04] <ccooke-work> bzimage: well... strictly speaking, it's not
[11:04] <Skid> or, a variety even.
[11:05] <ccooke-work> root vegetables are tubers...
[11:05] <stan|uni> !tell stan|uni about root
[11:05] <Skid> root vegtables,
[11:05] <Skid> buh beat me.
[11:05] <Skid> :P
[11:05] <ccooke-work> which are a modified *kind* of root :-)
[11:05] <Skid> ccooke-work: btw, fixed the issue with the k750i :D
[11:05] <cat> how do you stop gdm starting automaticly?
[11:05] <bzimage> still.. its a funny username
[11:05] <Skid> its still to do with hald, but hopefully that'll be sorted in breezey for me :)
[11:05] <bzimage> :P
[11:05] <stan|uni> nice function
[11:06] <dmacdonald111> Just one more question before I rush off to play again, what are Warty, Hoary & this badger stuff? Sorry if it's a silly question.
[11:07] <bzimage> like linus was working in the agriculture when he thought of root
[11:07] <ccooke-work> dmacdonald111: they're names for the different versions of Ubuntu
[11:07] <ccooke-work> bzimage: actually, it's inherited from Unix
[11:07] <ccooke-work> the root user is over thirty years old...
[11:07] <bzimage> ccooke-work, i know that..
[11:07] <dmacdonald111> ah. I haven't seen any reference to these when I installed.
[11:07] <Renski> whats your first name dmacdonald111?
[11:08] <Cryptid> Will please some 1 gimme the link from where i can download Java and W32codecs some 1 had givenit to me eariler but i forgot to note it down
[11:08] <dmacdonald111> er, Daniel. Why? :)
[11:08] <nalioth> Cryptid: hoary or breezy?
[11:08] <Renski> ah, its ok, I thought you stole my name.
[11:08] <Renski> <--- Darren McDonald
[11:08] <dmacdonald111> hehe. cool!
[11:08] <Cryptid> nalioth, hoary
[11:08] <loststryk> <-- ronald....
[11:08] <dmacdonald111> lol
[11:08] <ccooke-work> dmacdonald111: Warty was the first (4.10) release. Hoary is 5.04 and Breezy is 5.10.
[11:08] <Cryptid> nalioth, i thin u were the 1 who gave it to me eariler
[11:08] <dmacdonald111> I'll have a double cheeseburger please!
[11:08] <nalioth> Cryptid: http://www.giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/
[11:08] <nalioth> Cryptid: bookmark
[11:08] <loststryk> would you like frys with that ?
[11:09] <dmacdonald111> ah! makes sense. Thank you cooke-work
[11:09] <dmacdonald111> please lostsryk!
[11:09] <loststryk> :)
[11:09] <Cryptid>  nalioth, ya i will
[11:09] <dmacdonald111> anyhoo, could talk food all day, but I really want to get this ubuntu working. see ya lata!
[11:09] <nalioth> Cryptid: come back and see me when you upgrade to breezy
[11:09] <ccooke-work> bzimage: Sorry :-)
[11:10] <loststryk> i'm loving this flavour
[11:10] <bzimage> ccooke-work, sorry?
[11:10] <loststryk> does everything i need apart from one thing
[11:10] <bzimage> loststryk, and that is?
[11:10] <Cryptid> nalioth, i ordered for Breezy god know when i will get it may be anoter 2 or 3 weeks
[11:11] <loststryk> getting ftpfxp-mew working properly.... once thats done i'll rm -rf windows
[11:11] <bzimage> Cryptid, download it.. (faster)
[11:11] <Cryptid> bzimage, how many mb is it
[11:11] <bzimage> like one cd
[11:11] <loststryk> under 700mb
[11:11] <Cryptid> bzimage, its not yet the final version rite so i dont want to take risk
[11:12] <bzimage> right...
[11:12] <bzimage> fair enough
[11:12] <bzimage> :)
[11:12] <pamela> hi
[11:12] <bzimage> (aka problems)
[11:12] <bzimage> hi
[11:12] <nalioth> Cryptid: you can upgrade from your current hoary when the time comes
[11:13] <gorilla> thanks peopel... I can see myself wasting plenty of time with neverball.
[11:13] <pamela> wanna chat?
[11:13] <nalioth> pamela: in #ubuntu-offtopic, sure thing
[11:13] <bzimage> pamela, if its functional, ubuntu related, sure
[11:13] <pamela> unsa?
[11:13] <bzimage> :)
[11:13] <pamela> yeo!
[11:13] <pamela> hi
[11:13] <nalioth> tagalog in #ubuntu-ph
[11:14] <pamela> wanna chat?bzimage?
[11:14] <nalioth> pamela: this is not a chat channel, it is a help channel
[11:14] <pamela> ambot!
[11:14] <Skid> lol
[11:14] <Cryptid> nalioth, can i upgrade my hoary to breezy using the cds without having to format and reinstall
[11:15] <sskk> When in the install process of ubuntu is hardware specifik packages/configuration made? - I'm trying to get ubuntu on my old drive-less thinkpad x21. I'm trying to hit a shortcut by moving my x21 HD to a thinkpad T21 (which has CD-drive). Then perform some of the install on the T21, and move the harddisk back to the X21, when I don't need the CD anymore. Will this give be problems on the long run? (wrong HW configuration or alike?)
[11:15] <nalioth> Cryptid: yes you can
[11:15] <Cryptid> nalioth, oh good
[11:15] <stan|uni> pamela, pls join #ubuntu-offtopic for finding chat partners...
[11:15] <cicccioo> salve a tutti
[11:15] <nalioth> !it
[11:15] <ubotu> nalioth: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[11:16] <stan|uni> nalioth, but there is still a risk in upgrading, isn't there?
[11:16] <cat> cicccioo: #ubuntu-it
[11:16] <sobersabre> are the xorg updates for breezy edible ??
[11:16] <sobersabre> ( the current ones )
[11:16] <ccooke-work> sskk: I don't know anyone who has tried it. The danger is if you need kernel parameters to boot your thinkpad correctlyh
[11:16] <lorenzod> sobresabre, will know in a few minutes..
[11:17] <Corden> hi to all ubuntu fans
[11:17] <bzimage> cicccioo: La scanalatura italiana di sostegno  # ubuntu-esso
[11:17] <stan|uni> hoi Corden
[11:17] <xukun> ist possible to copy and paste on console without selecting the right mice button and then copy? I have seen this before but I dont know how to do it
[11:17] <bzimage> cicccioo: La scanalatura italiana di sostegno  # ubuntu-it
[11:17] <cat> xukun: install gpm
[11:17] <Corden> hello stan|uni
[11:17] <nalioth> cafuego: you here?
[11:17] <ccooke-work> sskk: installing the base system should be hardware independant, so if you wait until the reboot to install the rest of the systems, then swap the disk over... it should work.
[11:17] <sobersabre> lorenzod, please be fast :) i cann't wait.
[11:18] <nalioth> bzimage: ubotu doesnt speak italian, the stupid bot
[11:18] <lorenzod> sobersabre, so I'm your guinea-pig now ;-)
[11:18] <ccooke-work> xukun: yes. Just select with the left button (highlight the text) and paste with the middle button (press on the scroll-wheel if you have one).
[11:18] <Corden> i have something to ask from you guys
[11:18] <bzimage> nalioth, that's why i translated... ;)
[11:18] <Corden> hope you can help, i know you can :)
[11:18] <ccooke-work> xunil: there are two *seperate* clipboards for these, though
[11:18] <sobersabre> lorenzod, hmmm... that's another way to look at it.
[11:18] <ccooke-work> er. xukun.
[11:18] <sobersabre> :)
[11:18] <nalioth> bzimage: i think ubotu hates italian, he wont even learn the phrase
[11:18] <sskk> ccooke-work - so that's just about doing the basic install, and switch, when it would like to reboot, I guess... Thanks.
[11:18] <bzimage> lol
[11:19] <nalioth> bzimage: havta get with cafuego to beat some sense into the bots head
[11:19] <bzimage> !tell corden about ask
[11:19] <stan|uni> Corden, fire away
[11:19] <ccooke-work> sskk: just remember - if your thinkpad needs special options to boot, you'll have to play with grub to get it working. That could be hard.
[11:19] <jnil> what is the best application to get receive images from a usb digital camera?
[11:19] <lorenzod> Slightly offtopic, but can anybody compare eclipse from the repos with the eclipse.org ones?
[11:19] <cat> jnil: gtkam
[11:19] <bzimage> nalioth, haha
[11:19] <bzimage> :P
[11:19] <stan|uni> jnil, gtkam
[11:19] <jnil> i tried gtkam
[11:19] <sskk> ccooke: yes.. But can I be sure, that if it boots, then everything should be fine?
[11:20] <jnil> and its not working
[11:20] <Corden> i just installed ubuntu on my pc last night, i had a slave hdd, how can i access it and view all the files?
[11:20] <jnil> it doesnt recognize my camera
[11:20] <ompaul> lorenzod, you can if you install it and do a diff on the sources
[11:20] <bzimage> jnil, use the right module then
[11:20] <bzimage> ;)
[11:20] <nalioth> Corden: what was on the slave?
[11:20] <cat> jnil: you need to configured it
[11:20] <xukun> cat, ccooke-work thanks guys it works now
[11:20] <ccooke-work> sskk: no, you can't. But it *probably* will.
[11:20] <cat> xukun: np
[11:20] <lorenzod> ompaul, wasn't really interested in the diffs at that level..
[11:20] <ompaul> lorenzod, where it = sources
[11:20] <Corden> installers and my reference ebooks
[11:20] <nalioth> !tell Corden about windowsdrives
[11:21] <ccooke-work> sskk: without knowing the ins and outs of your hardware, there's no way for us to tell you with absolute certainty.
[11:21] <reter> cat, i tried to add a camera. it rejects any choice i make
[11:21] <xukun> cat, can you also help me installing skype on ubuntu hoary
[11:21] <xukun> ?
[11:21] <sskk> coo
[11:21] <sskk> ccooke: right - thanks then... I'll go experiment.
[11:21] <ompaul> lorenzod, what I suggest is that you look at the version number in use on Ubuntu and the version number on the site and then check the changelog for differences
[11:21] <bzimage> Corden, also notice: windows installers may not work (if using wine) at all on Linux.
[11:22] <Corden> so what would i do to have access and view my files?
[11:22] <xukun> I dont find anything with apt-cache search skype
[11:22] <bzimage> Corden, read the ubotu message
[11:22] <xukun> what do I need to add in my sources.list?
[11:22] <Juharanto> You must add skype to your repository
[11:22] <aftertaf> repeated ping shows 15% avg packet loss for proxy....
[11:23] <linner> aftertaf:  that's sad
[11:23] <Corden> on ububtu documentation?
[11:23] <bzimage> yes
[11:23] <nalioth> Corden: ubotu sent you a private msg with info to answer your question
[11:23] <Juharanto> xukun:  check this:
[11:23] <Juharanto> http://www.skype.com/products/skype/linux/repositories.html
[11:23] <linner> aftertaf:  and it sucks for someone trying to carry on a conversation with you
[11:24] <bzimage> Juharanto, why does het NEED that?
[11:24] <bzimage> :P
[11:24] <xukun> Juharanto, thanks a lot
[11:24] <Corden> tnx nalioth
[11:24] <drazQ> does ubuntu have support for Sun's java? The wiki is a bit diffuse, it says "(..)assuming they happen to
[11:24] <drazQ>                support your platform." ..
[11:24] <Juharanto> Hmm..
[11:25] <bzimage> xukun, your free to add repositories as you like. (but keep in mind that mixing official repos with non official ones can damage your system!)
[11:25] <nalioth> drazQ: hoary or breezy? x86 or ppc or amd64?
[11:25] <drazQ> amd64/breezy
[11:25] <linner> night knelix
[11:25] <drazQ> 1.4.2 and 1.5
[11:25] <xukun> bzimage, if there is other way please tel me
[11:25] <Juharanto> I have amd64 and breezy works greatfully!
[11:26] <bzimage> xukun, for a start, you could add the multiverse and universe repos to your list
[11:26] <ompaul> !tell drazQ about java
[11:26] <bzimage> (wich are commented out by default)
[11:26] <bzimage> !tell xukun about repos
[11:27] <reter> cat, any suggestions? any other usb digital camera programs to try?
[11:27] <drazQ> ompaul: I've read the wiki; As I said, I find it a bit diffuse, as they state 'assuming they (Sun) support your platform' .. I'm considering Ubuntu, so Ubuntu is debian, debian is linux, and linux is supported .. correct? *confused* :)
[11:28] <nalioth> drazQ: java is easily procured for your platform from Sun, and installed following the wiki
[11:28] <ompaul> drazQ, be unconfused, it does work on Ubuntu
[11:29] <lorenzod> drazQ, not only your os needs to be supported, but your hardware architecture as well..
[11:29] <bzimage> drazQ, correct. (but each distribution: linux flavour, has it's own package system. So using a prepackaged piece of software for a certain distro is handy)
[11:29] <linner> goodnight everyone
[11:29] <xukun> bzimage, this is what I have, can you please take a look? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2609
[11:29] <sobersabre> lorenzod, what's up with xorg ... ? :)
[11:30] <drazQ> ok, thanks guys .. just needed to confirm that I will be able to install the official release
[11:30] <_pir>  helo.. is there any ability in bmp to quick search in the play list.. (like F3 in winamp)..?
[11:30] <lorenzod> sobersabre: finished downloading, installing.
[11:31] <ompaul> +r ? anyone bots are there
[11:31] <lorenzod> When you see me quit, that means, I'm logging out/in..
[11:31] <lorenzod> Hopefully you'll see me back online a few minutes later :)
[11:31] <nalioth> ompaul: bots?
[11:31] <lemmy> hi
[11:32] <bzimage> xukun, avoid double entries
[11:32] <bzimage> but is looks ok..
[11:32] <lemmy> i just upgraded to latest kernel in breezy and now my bootsplash i gone. anybody knows how to turn it back on?
[11:32] <bzimage> reload the repos list..
[11:32] <ompaul> nalioth, zolgiiu and one or two others
[11:33] <bzimage> (via synaptic or via command: sudo apt-get update)
[11:33] <hutgyrr> if I want to backup to multiple disks (DVDs or Hard Drives). Can I get external arrays, and can they be controlled simultaneously from linux?
[11:33] <xukun> bzimage, but that sources.list I still cant apt-get skype
[11:33] <xukun> bzimage, ..with that ..
[11:33] <bzimage> ooh you want skype... i didn't know that..
[11:33] <bzimage> (i thought you just wanted extra repositories)
[11:34] <xukun> bzimage, yes I want skype
[11:34] <bzimage> well.. than Juharanto made a good reply
[11:34] <ompaul> xukun, have you got the lib3c-mt installed?
[11:34] <xukun> bzimage, aha
[11:34] <xukun> ompaul, sec please
[11:34] <bzimage> xukun, Juharanto xukun:  check this:
[11:34] <bzimage> Juharanto http://www.skype.com/products/skype/linux/repositories.html
[11:35] <bzimage> (c/p form earlier)
[11:35] <bzimage> err
[11:35] <bzimage> from
[11:35] <xukun> bzimage,but then you said:  xukun, your free to add repositories as you like. (but keep in mind that mixing official repos with non official ones can damage your system!)
[11:35] <deFrysk> http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/breezy-extras/skype_1.2.0.17-1_i386.deb
[11:36] <bzimage> xukun, that's right... there's allways a certain danger...
[11:36] <xukun> bzimage, you made me think twise
[11:37] <Qantourisc> what is the terminal package manger for ubuntu ( need to upgrade in the hope x wil lwork then)
[11:37] <bzimage> xukun, download the skype file deFrysk gave you
[11:37] <nalioth> xukun: better to compile from source (or have your machine do it) than use unofficial stuff
[11:37] <nalioth> !tell Qantourisc about apt
[11:37] <Qantourisc> aa so ubunut used apt with a gui over it
[11:38] <bzimage> Qantourisc, no.. it uses apt.. and also have a gui over it :)
[11:38] <bzimage> (but you still can use it without gui)
[11:38] <bzimage> well.. gui.. X gui to be precise ;)
[11:38] <Qantourisc> :p
[11:39] <Qantourisc> gui = graphical unit interface :p
[11:39] <Qantourisc> so can be a lot :p X, web, etz. ..
[11:39] <bzimage> user not unit
[11:39] <bzimage> :P
[11:39] <xukun> ompaul, no lib3c-mt installed
[11:39] <Qantourisc> lol oeps :p
[11:39] <xukun> bzimage, I get the file.
[11:40] <ompaul> xukun, that repo that was pointed to add it and use it :-)
[11:40] <bzimage> Qantourisc,  that's why i rephrased it..
[11:40] <bzimage> :)
[11:40] <ompaul> xukun, it did not exist a few days ago :)
[11:40] <uazmatch> hallo
[11:40] <Qantourisc> :p
[11:40] <Qantourisc> ubdating
[11:40] <Qantourisc> *updating
[11:41] <Qantourisc> lol ubotu, clever name :p
[11:41] <sobersabre> deFrysk, is this skype package with fixed dependency ?
[11:41] <any> hi
[11:41] <bzimage> hi
[11:41] <deFrysk> sobersabre, this package should work afaIk
[11:42] <any> I have ubuntu breezy but I would like to get the new kate, can I add kubuntu breezy mirror to my source.list ?
[11:42] <any> NO conflicts ?
[11:42] <deFrysk> sobersabre, with te deps required of course
[11:42] <Qantourisc> howlong would a aptget take ?
[11:42] <ompaul> xukun, the loading speed of skype is bad
[11:43] <parterre> Hello im Mona from Germany, sorry my english is not so god, but i have a problem
[11:43] <nalioth> Qantourisc: depends on how much stuff you need
[11:43] <deFrysk> parterre, there is a german room : /j #ubuntu-de
[11:44] <nalioth> parterre: ask your question, please
[11:44] <Qantourisc> nalioth: a blank ubunut 5.01 installation
[11:45] <parterre> i have delete my trash and cant find to reinstall it
[11:45] <deFrysk> parterre, rightklick your panen > add > trash applet
[11:45] <deFrysk> panel*
[11:46] <uazmatch> hallo
[11:46] <Raptoid> siziz siterim
[11:46] <Raptoid> beni dellendirmeyin.
[11:46] <parterre> Thank you a lot i got it
[11:46] <lorenzod> Hmm.. I wonder what did this: gtk update, xorg update or kernel update..
[11:47] <xukun> I addes that repos for skype in my sources. list, but now if I apt-get install skype than I get this: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2610
[11:47] <lorenzod> All of a sudden everything feels really snappy!
[11:47] <xukun> ..added
[11:48] <Qantourisc> anything i must do after apt-get upgrade ?
[11:48] <Qantourisc> in gentoo it where thins as env-update etc-update etz ...
[11:48] <Qantourisc> anything in ubuntu ?
[11:48] <deFrysk> xukun, not on breezy ?
[11:49] <xukun> deFrysk, no I,m using hoary
[11:49] <lorenzod> Qantourisc: not really.
[11:49] <deFrysk> xukun, probably thats the reason then
[11:49] <Qantourisc> ok
[11:49] <lorenzod> But sometimes you want to dpkg-reconfigure <package>
[11:49] <Qantourisc> then i must continue :p
[11:49] <uazmatch> daaamm
[11:49] <deFrysk> xukun, the static.deb on the skype site workt fine in hoary afaIk
[11:49] <Qantourisc> i have an I915GM chipset
[11:49] <lorenzod> But Ubuntu != Gentoo..
[11:50] <Qantourisc> i know :p
[11:50] <deFrysk> works*
[11:50] <bzimage> lorenzod, indeed... ubuntu = debian
[11:50] <xukun> deFrysk, no becouse I had this problem on my home breezy too
[11:50] <lorenzod> bzimage: more or less, yes.
[11:50] <deFrysk> xukun, wait till seveas is around , he probably knows who how and what
[11:50] <cat> !yum
[11:51] <ubotu> cat: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[11:51] <teenie> is there anybody have tried ubuntu linux?
[11:51] <lorenzod> teenie: hm...
[11:51] <eliphas_> euh no
[11:51] <eliphas_> what 's that?
[11:51] <xukun> deFrysk, thanks I will
[11:51] <teenie> how about turbo linux?
[11:51] <deFrysk> cat yum is the yellow dog updater
[11:51] <Qantourisc> ok i n #gento osome knew about an issue iI915gm
[11:52] <teenie> * Topic for #ubuntu is: Official Ubuntu Help channel | Colony 5 is out: http://tinyurl.com/85dry | Upgrading to breezy? http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes | Documentation: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation - http://doc.ubuntu.com | Use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl for pasting | Found a bug? http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[11:52] <teenie> * Topic for #ubuntu set by crimsun at Wed Sep 28 14:16:26 2005
[11:52] <teenie> * kafeine has quit (Remote closed the connection)
[11:52] <teenie> lorenzod bzimage: more or less, yes.
[11:52] <teenie> deFrysk xukun, wait till seveas is around , he probably knows who how and what
[11:52] <teenie> cat !yum
[11:52] <teenie> ubotu cat: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[11:52] <ubotu> teenie: okay
[11:52] <teenie> * parterre has quit ("Verlassend")
[11:52] <teenie> teenie is there anybody have tried ubuntu linux?
[11:52] <teenie> lorenzod teenie: hm...
[11:52] <teenie> * stephank (n=stephank@ip503dc86f.speed.planet.nl) has joined #ubuntu
[11:52] <teenie> eliphas_ euh no
[11:52] <teenie> eliphas_ what 's that?
[11:52] <teenie> teenie how about turbo linux?
[11:52] <teenie> xukun deFrysk, thanks I will
[11:52] <teenie> deFrysk cat yum is the yellow dog updater
[11:52] <teenie> * Kaltzu (n=Kaltzu@addr-82-128-222-6.suomi.net) has joined #ubuntu
[11:52] <teenie> Qantourisc ok i n #gento osome knew about an issue iI915gm
[11:52] <teenie> p
[11:52] <bzimage> teeenie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:53] <deFrysk> it left
[11:53] <Qantourisc> sory :p
[11:53] <deFrysk> he/she/or it left
[11:53] <bzimage> guessing it
[11:53] <bzimage> :P
[11:53] <Qantourisc> someone at #gentoo knew about the fact that there was an issue in ubunutu with i915gm
[11:53] <deFrysk> bzimage, agree :D
[11:53] <bzimage> :D
[11:54] <user__> how to install acrobat?
[11:54] <deFrysk> !acroread
[11:54] <ubotu> acroread is probably wget http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/deb/adobereader-enu_7.0.1-2_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i adobereader-enu_7.0.1-2_i386.deb
[11:55] <deFrysk> user__, ubotu knows :)
[11:56] <deFrysk> user__, if you are on breezy try evince , it rocks
[11:56] <user__> what is evince?
[11:56] <deFrysk> user__, a replacement for a.r.
[11:57] <user__> where i can get that?
[11:57] <deFrysk> apt-get it if you dont have it
[11:57] <deFrysk> evince is a killer app
[11:57] <cat> !evince
[11:58] <ubotu> cat: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[11:58] <cat> what's evince?
[11:58] <Qantourisc> isn't there some sort of starter guide for ubunut ?
[11:58] <cat> Qantourisc: ubuntu.com
[11:58] <cat> !doc
[11:58] <ubotu> from memory, doc is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation is a good doc to read
[11:58] <Qantourisc> there is only a seach option
[11:58] <Clankerus> hi
[11:59] <Clankerus> I have some questions about installing ubuntu
[11:59] <deFrysk> !info evince
[11:59] <ubotu> evince: (Document (postscript, pdf) viewer), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.1.9-0ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 189 kB, Installed size: 788 kB
[11:59] <deFrysk> !botsnack
[11:59] <ubotu> :)
[12:00] <Qantourisc> hmm whats the official ubunutu kernel ?
[12:00] <Clankerus> when u have burned it onto a cd.. does the computer boot from the cd when installing or do I have to start the cd when the computer is turned on and im using windows?
[12:00] <deFrysk> Clankerus, boot from cd is my way of doing it
[12:00] <skrangle> hi, i tried installing ubuntu on a amd laptop, and it said i needed a 32bit version or something .. where do i get this ?
[12:00] <Clankerus> so how do I do to burn it.. is it a iso image?
[12:01] <rejden> skrangle, heh, that's x86 version
[12:01] <deFrysk> Clankerus, yes its an iso image
[12:01] <rejden> skrangle, amd64 is version for 64bit computers, afaik only apple have 64bit laptops....
[12:01] <skrangle> rejden what do you mean?
[12:01] <deFrysk> Clankerus, make sure to burn the iso , don't copy it
[12:01] <mad> hi ppl :D
[12:01] <rejden> skrangle, that you need x86 iso not amd64
[12:01] <mad> openoffice presentation: add -> object -> audio is not clickable, why? i need sound in my presentation. anyone?
[12:02] <Clankerus> okey but i have never done this before ... do i just make a cd with nero and burn the file on the disc cause i dont think it starts by itself if I do liek that
[12:02] <mjr> rejden, (there are amd64 laptops, but yes, skrangle doesn't seem to have one)
[12:02] <deFrysk> Clankerus, http://www.weethet.nl/english/cdrw_usingnero_iso.php
[12:02] <rejden> mjr, i said afaik :)
[12:02] <deFrysk> Clankerus, try that :)
[12:02] <rejden> mjr, yeah i think i saw some ultrasparc laptops..
[12:02] <skrangle> rejden, ok, i thought the i386 was for intel only
[12:03] <rejden> skrangle, not intel, x86 is platform
[12:03] <mjr> rejden, ultrasparc isn't amd64, though :)
[12:03] <rejden> mjr, well :D
[12:03] <skrangle> k, tx :)
[12:03] <Qantourisc> lets hope the patches are enough
[12:03] <Qantourisc> say patches aren't they only for the kernel source ?
[12:03] <Clankerus> okey thx =)
[12:03] <mad> hm
[12:04] <deFrysk> Clankerus, good luck , and dont burn the iso at full speed , safer to do half speed for better writing
[12:04] <Penguin> is there a ubuntu fun channel to know users a little bit better? :-)
[12:04] <bzimage> Qantourisc, que
[12:04] <bzimage> ?
[12:05] <Kuolio> Penguin: ubuntu-offtopic and ubuntuforums for active forum-users
[12:05] <deFrysk> Penguin, what do you mean ? a channel like ubuntu-offtopic ?
[12:05] <Penguin> eh, I'm not active so nvm but thx :)
[12:05] <xukun> anybody know about the public release of Xten's XLite Linux version?
[12:05] <Penguin> yeah :-)
[12:05] <skrangle> oh man i cant wait to put windows behind me, ive been waiting for this for as long as i can remember
[12:05] <Clankerus> allright... Ill try my best to make it work..!!
[12:05] <Qantourisc> bzimage: well i915gm wil lneed some updates, so currently im't trying to update xorg and the kernel
[12:05] <Qantourisc> i would be fine in gentpp
[12:05] <Clankerus> does irc work on linux?
[12:05] <Qantourisc> but this is not getnoo :D
[12:05] <MachineScrew> any one know what I can do to enable hibernation ?
[12:05] <xukun> peaple are saying that will work beter than skype
[12:06] <xukun> ..for linux
[12:06] <mad> Clankerus, yes, xchat
[12:06] <deFrysk> Clankerus, irc rules in linux
[12:06] <haxel> ll
[12:06] <Penguin> irssi rules ^^
[12:06] <bas_> Could anyone tell me the ubuntu release life cycle? (end of updates/end of support/end of life) or point me to where I can read about it?
[12:06] <Qantourisc> irc is more linux then it is windows imo
[12:06] <deFrysk> Clankerus, its by default installed
[12:06] <mad> inm openoffice presentation: add -> object -> audio is not clickable, why? i need sound in my presentation. anyone?
[12:07] <skrangle> bas_ all that and much more on ubuntu.com
[12:07] <MachineScrew> any one
[12:07] <MachineScrew> i am in breezy
[12:07] <haxel> 
[12:07] <deFrysk> Clankerus, after install xchat will be in the menu>internet>irc-chat
[12:07] <bas_> skrangle, I was that far, but cant find it on the site
[12:07] <MachineScrew> or even suspend
[12:07] <bzimage> haxel, omg
[12:07] <haxel> :(
[12:08] <haxel> help?
[12:08] <deFrysk> haxel, just ask
[12:08] <bzimage> !tell haxel about ask
[12:08] <deFrysk> !botsnack
[12:08] <ubotu> :)
[12:08] <bzimage> :P
[12:08] <haxel> seems i'm using utf-8m, how do i change it into L1?
[12:08] <lorenzod> speaking of , does anybody else have problems with Gtk apps freezing when SCIM is enabled?
[12:09] <Kuolio> MachineScrew: I've heard some rumours, that with kernel boot option "noapi" or "noapic" the suspend function would work, but dont know for sure
[12:09] <dhonn> does breezy have a clipboard manager
[12:09] <bzimage> dhonn, yes
[12:09] <bzimage> (in kde at least.. hehe klipper)
[12:09] <Kuolio> MachineScrew: laptopsupport is getting better quite fast these days, but im afraid that suspend functions are still shaky at best
[12:10] <Clankerus> is it a dvd iso?
[12:10] <bzimage> Clankerus, is what a dvd iso?
[12:10] <deFrysk> Clankerus, the iso file ? its a cd iso
[12:10] <dhonn> how do i use it? cp and paste doesnt work
[12:10] <dhonn> when i close the app that i cped text from
[12:10] <bzimage> dhonn, i only use kde
[12:11] <Clankerus> the download file says ubuntu-5.04-dvd-i386.iso
[12:11] <dhonn> ok
[12:11] <dhonn> thanks
[12:11] <deFrysk> Clankerus, get the cd iso file
[12:11] <Clankerus> ok.. is there differences?
[12:11] <Clankerus> can u link me to the right one please ^_^
[12:12] <deFrysk> well the dvd one is probably a larger donwload
[12:12] <deFrysk> Clankerus, breezy or hoary ?
[12:12] <Clankerus> hoary
[12:12] <deFrysk> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download/ Clankerus
[12:12] <Clankerus> thx =)
[12:13] <bzimage> (d'oh)
[12:13] <bzimage> :P
[12:13] <joel_> hi
[12:13] <haxel> seems i'm using utf-8, how do i change it into L1?
[12:13] <bzimage> first lesson: downloads are allways listed on the projects site...
[12:13] <bzimage> -l
[12:13] <MachineScrew> Kuolio : I still wana try it
[12:13] <bzimage> hi
[12:14] <MachineScrew> it has worked before on my laptop with other distros
[12:14] <hettar> Is there a gnome app like the kde digikam one for managing photos ?
[12:14] <gerarcone> hello, i have a problem with pdfs. i can see these file well with evince, but when i try to print them some characters become very strange
[12:14] <deFrysk> hettar, gphoto
[12:14] <bzimage> gtkcam or somehting
[12:14] <Skid> gkam or somthing?
[12:14] <Skid> lemem check my log hettar too
[12:14] <Skid> gtkam apparantly
[12:14] <Clankerus> what do I do with all the files here .... copy them to my hd?
[12:15] <bzimage> Clankerus, you need to burn the contents of the iso you downloaded to cd
[12:15] <MachineScrew> any one know what I can do to enable hibernation ?
[12:15] <MachineScrew> i am in breezy
[12:15] <bzimage> (burn image option)
[12:15] <deFrysk> Clankerus, where do you live ? I'll hold your hand for a bit ;)
[12:15] <Clankerus> sweden
[12:16] <Clankerus> ah I took the norwegian server and its different from the others
[12:16] <hettar> gphotocoll perhaps ?
[12:16] <deFrysk> Clankerus, x86 pc ?
[12:16] <Clankerus> now i took the german one
[12:16] <Clankerus> whats that?
[12:16] <lorenzod> Clankerus: everything Norwegian is different..
[12:16] <lorenzod> ;-)
[12:16] <deFrysk> windows pc Clankerus ?
[12:16] <Clankerus> lol
[12:16] <Clankerus> im planning to install it on my windows 2k laptop
[12:16] <deFrysk> Clankerus, http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/5.04/ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso
[12:17] <deFrysk> have fun ;)
[12:17] <Clankerus> 400 mhz.. quite old..
[12:17] <Clankerus> okey
[12:17] <bzimage> Clankerus, if you want to preserve you win2k install.. you need to be carefull with the partitioning part!
[12:17] <deFrysk> Clankerus, you can let go of my hand now ;p
[12:17] <bzimage> deFrysk, lol
[12:17] <Clankerus> allright =P
[12:18] <mad> inm openoffice presentation: add -> object -> audio is not clickable, why? i need sound in my presentation. anyone?
[12:18] <Clankerus> I dont really care about my win 2k install its brought me so much trouble so far
[12:18] <deFrysk> Clankerus, wipe the lot :D
[12:18] <bzimage> Clankerus, ok.. :P
[12:18] <Kream> hi all
[12:19] <mad> lo
[12:19] <Wipe-Out> hey all
[12:19] <Kream> are these correct sources to enable universe on my machine: ?
[12:19] <Kream> deb http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[12:19] <Kream> deb-src http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[12:19] <Kream>  ?
[12:19] <Kream> and if they are, how do I get nvu from them?
[12:19] <Wipe-Out> are you using hoary?
[12:19] <deFrysk> Kream, in topic is a link to the upgradenotes
[12:20] <Kream> oops
[12:20] <Wipe-Out> lol
[12:20] <bzimage> !tell Kream about breezy
[12:20] <Kream> :)
[12:20] <Kream> thanks
[12:20] <Clankerus> defrysk, there is appearently two files... each at about 600 mb and iso files
[12:21] <bzimage> Clankerus, ?
[12:21] <zever> lol
[12:22] <deFrysk> Clankerus, http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/5.04/ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso is a download link
[12:22] <deFrysk> Clankerus, so download it
[12:23] <zever> Wipe-Out, sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4
[12:23] <bzimage> lol
[12:23] <bzimage> :P
[12:25] <skys> i install wine  and i got this error :checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[12:25] <skys> See `config.log' for more details.
[12:25] <skys> " help plz....
[12:25] <Wipe-Out> zever, I know that part but it can;t be found
[12:26] <zever> !info gcc-3.4
[12:26] <ubotu> gcc-3.4: (The GNU C compiler), section devel, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-9ubuntu4 (hoary), Packaged size: 465 kB, Installed size: 4404 kB
[12:26] <gnuLame> u dn't have GCC or it has been installed in wrong directory
[12:26] <gnuLame> we r now on gcc 4.0.1 why u trying 3.4 ?
[12:26] <skys> i installed gcc using synaptic
[12:27] <Wipe-Out> i know but i need it to compile ndiswrapper 1.3
[12:27] <Wipe-Out> and gcc-3.4 is not on my system, i can download the tar.gz files to do it manualy but that is doing my head in
[12:27] <gnuLame> :p
[12:28] <nalioth> Wipe-Out: install it via synaptic
[12:28] <vikash> hi
[12:28] <Wipe-Out> tryed it via synaptic but it's not in the list
[12:28] <vikash> i have fat32 drive mounted but it's read only
[12:29] <vikash> i am using ubuntu 5.10
[12:29] <Wipe-Out> got the same issue
[12:29] <vikash> how can i change it's permissions
[12:29] <Wipe-Out> but first i need to get gcc-3.4 to work
[12:29] <Skid> hmph, it seems my application sounds ahve gone
[12:29] <vikash> plz help anybody
[12:29] <Skid> fecksake
[12:29] <JustinHH> i try to install mozilla web browser. the package is called <<mozilla-i686-pc-linux-gnu-1.7.12-installer.tar.gz>>. shoul i foind an other package or smth? i cant install it? can anybody help me pls?
[12:29] <bzimage> vikash, use in fstab umask=000 to let every user have write access
[12:29] <Wipe-Out> vikash: well i think you can do that as root only
[12:29] <bzimage> (system user)
[12:30] <vikash> ok
[12:30] <bzimage> fat32 has no right management like NTFS has
[12:30] <vikash> is driver available to read file system ntfs for ubuntu 5.10
[12:31] <Wipe-Out> nope
[12:31] <bzimage> yes there is
[12:31] <Wipe-Out> sorry wrong cghat :P
[12:31] <vikash> plz tell me
[12:31] <pc22> how do i install an application
[12:31] <bimberi> ubotu tell vikash about ntfs
[12:31] <zever> !tell vikash about ntfs
[12:32] <zever> hmmm
[12:32] <JustinHH> vikash, :  but for 5.40
[12:32] <vikash> i mounted ntfs in red hat 9
[12:32] <vikash> but didn't get driver for ubuntu 5.10
[12:32] <JustinHH> !tell JustinHH about ntfs
[12:32] <bzimage> use as type ntfs
[12:33] <Blizzkid> lo all, I have a bit of a strange problem regarding WIFI. I openend network settings, entered the ESSID and the WEP-key, and pressed "activate" after a while it says ath0 is active, but I only get some IPV6-address, and my wifi-card tells me there's no link
[12:33] <bzimage> vikash, DO NOT write to this mounted ntfs system... it can damage the contents on it..
[12:33] <bzimage> (if not more)
[12:33] <vikash> no i want to write on fat32
[12:33] <skys> i install wine  and i got this error :checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables, help plz.
[12:34] <vikash> what should be the value of umask in fstab
[12:34] <vikash> and want to read only ntfs
[12:34] <bzimage> vikash, to be clear.. you want to use a fat32 drive and a ntfs drive?
[12:35] <vikash> ya
[12:35] <bzimage> ok...
[12:35] <vikash> want write on fat
[12:35] <vikash> but only read ntfs
[12:35] <bzimage> for fat32: /dev/<fatdrive>      /<mountpoint>       vfat    user,umask=000          0       0
[12:35] <bzimage> *basic entry*
[12:36] <vikash> in place of defaults  i should write
[12:36] <vikash> vikash,umask=000
[12:36] <vikash> is it right
[12:36] <bzimage> no.. use "user"
[12:37] <vikash> ok
[12:37] <vikash> user not the name of user
[12:37] <linux_newbie> Hi there people
[12:37] <linux_newbie> I need help
[12:37] <linux_newbie> I'm running Ubuntu on a LG Ls50a notebook
[12:38] <linux_newbie> Want to install some new .rpm software, but dont know how?
[12:38] <bzimage> for ntfs: /dev/<ntfsdrive>      /<mountpoint>       ntfs    user,umask=022          0       0
[12:38] <linux_newbie> it says that I have to use alien
[12:38] <linux_newbie> alien?
[12:38] <bzimage> linukso, alien is a conversion tool..
[12:38] <zever> linux_newbie, alien creates .deb files out of .rpm's
[12:39] <bimberi> linux_newbie: what's the software?
[12:39] <linux_newbie> in the synaptics package manager I installed alien, but i dont know where to find it or how to run/use it?
[12:40] <linux_newbie> the software i want to install is realplayer for linux, winamp for linux and LimeWire p2p for linux
[12:40] <zever> linux_newbie, realplayer is in the repos
[12:40] <linux_newbie> realplayer is a .bin file (also dont know how to install that
[12:40] <linux_newbie> the others are .rpm
[12:40] <zever> linux_newbie, WINamp?, use xmms (it's a winamp2 clone)
[12:40] <deFrysk> !tell linux_newbie about realplayer
[12:41] <bzimage> linux_newbie, i advise you to NOT use winamp for linux.. it OLD
[12:41] <deFrysk> linux_newbie, read ubotu's message about real player
[12:41] <linux_newbie> and what about LimeWire?  I want to know how to install a .rpm file... isnt there some documents somewhere telling me how?
[12:41] <zever> linux_newbie, in terminal, alien foo.rpm
[12:42] <deFrysk> linux_newbie, forget everything you learn afa windows is concerned
[12:42] <bzimage> linux_newbie, in terminal: man alien
[12:42] <deFrysk> linux_newbie, windows ways dont apply in linux
[12:42] <bimberi> limewire
[12:42] <bimberi> bah - sorry
[12:42] <bzimage> deFrysk, for 80%
[12:42] <Blizzkid> lo all, I have a bit of a strange problem regarding WIFI. I openend network settings, entered the ESSID and the WEP-key, and pressed "activate" after a while it says ath0 is active, but I only get some IPV6-address, and my wifi-card tells me there's no link
[12:42] <bzimage> (approx.)
[12:43] <deFrysk> also a .deb created by alien often does not work linux_newbie
[12:43] <bzimage> alien creates an alien piece of garbage
[12:43] <no_dammagE> a small question: do i have to pay the shipping costs if I order CDs from ubuntu.com or are those costs overtaken by shipit, too?
[12:44] <linux_newbie> ok now that i have alien open ' Manual page alien(1p) line 1
[12:44] <linux_newbie> ' wtf do i do? lol
[12:44] <zever> linux_newbie, read
[12:44] <bzimage> lol
[12:44] <skys> i install wine  and i got this error :checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables, help plz.
[12:44] <bzimage> (d.oh)
[12:44] <deFrysk> linux_newbie, now you have to learn not to use it ;p
[12:44] <ccooke-work> Hmm.
[12:44] <deFrysk> linux_newbie, read this : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation its your ubuntu-bible
[12:45] <zever> deFrysk, alien worked for the .rpm drivers of my printer
[12:45] <ccooke-work> Are there known problems with connecting to windows shares on breezy?
[12:45] <deFrysk> zever, it wont work on real-player
[12:45] <bzimage> zever, sometimes it's output actually works..
[12:45] <deFrysk> zever, also wont work on java
[12:45] <zever> mmmm
[12:45] <zever> probably
[12:45] <deFrysk> for newbies alien is useless
[12:46] <bzimage> i had several conversions doing nothing but annoy me, because they just wont install
[12:46] <bzimage> so.. alien is for alien debian user
[12:46] <bzimage> :P
[12:46] <no_dammagE> anyone? Do I have to pay shipping costs if I request CDs from ubuntu.com?
[12:46] <bzimage> +s
[12:46] <zever> :p
[12:46] <bimberi> no_dammagE: no - no cost to you whatsoever
[12:47] <no_dammagE> bimberi, thanks
[12:47] <deFrysk> no_dammagE, free and you can get a box full if you like
[12:47] <bzimage> no_dammagE, ehm.. well.. pay me 100 dollar.. and you get the cd's
[12:47] <bzimage> :P
[12:47] <bimberi> bzimage: :)
[12:47] <ashwani> hi all
[12:47] <ashwani> is there anybody ever used LDAP with SAMBA
[12:47] <ashwani> astro76, hi
[12:48] <bzimage> ashwani, sure there must be someone on this planet who used that combination
[12:48] <bzimage> :)
[12:48] <ashwani> astro76, do you know how to configure SAMBA and LDAP to work with each other
[12:48] <ashwani> astro76, i don't think so, I could not find any documentation which could tell me to do this
[12:49] <bzimage> i don't see any astro76 lines
[12:49] <bzimage> hehe
[12:49] <gnix_oag> is lamp?
[12:49] <no_dammagE> bzimage, hehe, no, give me 100$ and I will take your CDs ;)
[12:49] <skys> i install wine  and i got this error :checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables, help plz.
[12:50] <bzimage> no_dammagE, lol
[12:50] <no_dammagE> you have to pay me to make me to get your stuff ^^
[12:50] <bzimage> !lamp
[12:50] <ubotu> lamp is, like, totally, Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Hoary is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[12:51] <bzimage> there you go gnix_oag
[12:51] <bzimage> :)
[12:51] <gnix_oag> skys: install c++
[12:51] <michel_> i install ltsp with ubuntu breezy, now i have login but i cannot log me
[12:51] <HermenL> LAMP ids more like Linux-Apache-MySQL-Perl/PHP/Python !!!
[12:51] <bzimage> HermenL, no... it's not
[12:52] <bzimage> HermenL, (officially)
[12:52] <smott> mysql and php are terrible things
[12:52] <sobersabre> lorenzod, so how was the upgrade ?
[12:52] <smott> terrible, terrible things.
[12:52] <bzimage> smott, why?
[12:52] <smott> it would take a book to explain if you can't figure it out (:
[12:52] <bimberi> go postresql and zope!
[12:52] <bzimage> smott, summarize
[12:53] <lorenzod> sobreabre: very  good. feels faster now..
[12:53] <lorenzod> sobreabre == sobersabre.
[12:53] <bimberi> sob<tab> == sobersabre :)
[12:54] <smott> bzimage: they both suck and better things are available
[12:54] <bionicbi> hello
[12:54] <gnix_oag> hello
[12:54] <bzimage> smott, that's a personal opinion
[12:54] <deFrysk> hello
[12:54] <bzimage> hello
[12:54] <zever> hello
[12:54] <bionicbi> ANYOPNE IN SOUTHERN LEYTE
[12:55] <HermenL> bzimage: Sorry, LAMP, 1998,  Michael Kunze in C'T (Germany): " the Linux operating system; the Apache Web server; the MySQL relational database management system; and the Perl, Python, and/or PHP scripting languages "
[12:55] <zever> bionicbi, not so loud
[12:55] <bionicbi> sorry
[12:55] <michel_> install ltsp with ubuntu breezy: login display but i cannot log me any idea?
[12:55] <bionicbi> sorry
[12:55] <zever> ok
[12:55] <bzimage> HermenL, so.. ?
[12:55] <bzimage> :P
[12:55] <bionicbi> zever: are you in the phils?
[12:55] <smott> bzimage: uhm, okay. :rolleyes:
[12:55] <zever> bionicbi, no
[12:56] <bionicbi> oic
[12:56] <bionicbi> wehre you at?
[12:56] <zever> leuven, belgium
[12:56] <bzimage> smott, just ranting with " it sucks" doesn't say sh*t
[12:56] <bionicbi> where you at??
[12:56] <bzimage> :)
[12:56] <HermenL> First occurrence of 'LAMP' acro
[12:57] <gnix_oag> hehe
[12:57] <smott> bzimage: well, that's about as much summary as i can give
[12:57] <gnix_oag> china
[12:57] <eddie> anyone have the server addresses for restricted in Breezy for mp3 playback?
[12:57] <HermenL> Well smott, that's not much....
[12:57] <haxel> _I_ solved my utf-8 problem by running dpkg-reconfigure locales. Thanks for nothing.
[12:57] <bzimage> gnix_oag, china railway center?
[12:57] <ashwani> athlon, hi
[12:57] <bzimage> :P
[12:58] <ompaul> smott, what exactly can't you do with those two? [I know zope does not scale in a huge way but other than that] 
[12:58] <gnix_oag> what?
[12:58] <bzimage> gnix_oag, your provider
[12:58] <bzimage> (internet)
[12:59] <bzimage> china railway center? Xicheng District, Beijing
[12:59] <bionicbi> hello
[12:59] <gnix_oag> HuNan
[12:59] <ashwani> please tell me any one how to configure LDAP to authenticate SAMBA users
[12:59] <Cryptid> How do i open .Rar Format Files
[12:59] <ashwani> please tell me any one how to configure LDAP to authenticate SAMBA users
[12:59] <ashwani> please tell me any one how to configure LDAP to authenticate SAMBA users
[12:59] <ashwani> please tell me any one how to configure LDAP to authenticate SAMBA users
[12:59] <ashwani> please tell me any one how to configure LDAP to authenticate SAMBA users
[12:59] <ashwani> please tell me any one how to configure LDAP to authenticate SAMBA users
[12:59] <ashwani> please tell me any one how to configure LDAP to authenticate SAMBA users
[01:00] <Cryptid> ashwani dont flood the channel
[01:00] <ashwani> bzimage, hi
[01:00] <ashwani> Cryptid, K
[01:00] <HermenL> See samba.org and RTFM
[01:00] <ashwani> bzimage, do you know this
[01:01] <bzimage> not from heart
[01:01] <ashwani> HermenL,i have seen that but did not find any particular docs.
[01:01] <sskk> When I run in the System Monitor-tool it says that I use 100% all the time. In 'top' I see that the the % of the CPU power, that 'should' be under id (idle) is under 'wa'. What does it mean?, is it a problem?
[01:01] <Cryptid> How do i open .Rar Format Files
[01:01] <bzimage> Cryptid, use rar
[01:01] <bzimage> :P
[01:01] <skys> i install wine  and i got this error :checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables, help plz.
[01:02] <Cryptid> bzimage, where do i get it from
[01:02] <bzimage> repos
[01:02] <deFrysk> skys, did you use synaptic to install wine ?
[01:02] <HermenL> And : http://www.ofb.net/~jheiss/samba/ldap.shtml
[01:02] <bzimage> Cryptid, to be precise: unrar-free and unrar-nonfree are in the repos
[01:03] <deFrysk> skys, or apt-get ?
[01:03] <skys> yes
[01:03] <HermenL> How do we pay for unrar-nonfree then?
[01:03] <skys> but i got other error.
[01:03] <deFrysk> skys, from an ubuntu repository ?
[01:03] <bzimage> !tell Cryptid about repos
[01:03] <skys> yes thats right
[01:03] <deFrysk> skys, where is the compile about then ?
[01:04] <JustinHH> how can i run an installer?
[01:04] <skys> ok , i installed using apt/synaptic but theres an error when using wine, so i download the latest ver of wine
[01:04] <bzimage> JustinHH, what installer
[01:04] <bzimage> ?
[01:04] <ompaul> JustinHH, for what?
[01:04] <deFrysk> skys, ah
[01:04] <JustinHH> firefox
[01:04] <skys> and theres a compilation error, any idea.
[01:05] <bzimage> JustinHH, filename?
[01:05] <deFrysk> skys, nope
[01:05] <skys> maybe gcc path?
[01:05] <ompaul> JustinHH, sudo apt-get install firefox
[01:05] <skys> or some  file to edit?
[01:05] <JustinHH> thx
[01:05] <JustinHH> doaes this install firefox on my system?
[01:05] <JustinHH> does this install firefox on my system?
[01:05] <bzimage> skys, the wine wich comes with the repos is binary
[01:05] <ompaul> JustinHH, yes
[01:05] <deFrysk> skys, just use the packages provided by the repos
[01:05] <bzimage> so no need to compile
[01:05] <JustinHH> ok
[01:06] <skys> yes but theres an error when running wine. something like: cant find c:\ i think....
[01:06] <bzimage> did you just run wine solo?
[01:06] <skys> and besides ap-get the the older ver not the latest ver.
[01:06] <bzimage> without anything after it
[01:06] <JustinHH> this apears when i try to install firefox via apt-getE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[01:06] <JustinHH> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[01:07] <ompaul> skys, what exactly can you not do with the version offered?
[01:07] <skys> ok. i hv another idea. how to force apt-get to get the latest version from wine?
[01:07] <deFrysk> JustinHH, use sudo and shut down synaptic
[01:07] <ompaul> JustinHH, sudo apt-get update
[01:07] <bzimage> JustinHH, close synaptic
[01:07] <klepas> I'm wondering
[01:07] <klepas>  I'm trying to synchronise my user accounts over several distros (namely Suse and Ubuntu beta)
[01:07] <skys> ompaul=bugs n fixes...
[01:07] <klepas> Usernames and passwords already the same
[01:08] <klepas> but the UIDs are not the same...
[01:08] <klepas> how do i edit the UIDs
[01:08] <JustinHH> E: Couldn't find package firefox
[01:08] <JustinHH> :((
[01:08] <bzimage> mozilla-firefox
[01:09] <Qantourisc> okiedokie i have an i915gm
[01:09] <Qantourisc> there is a known issue with this
[01:09] <Qantourisc> what ?
[01:09] <bzimage> JustinHH, ehm.. firefox is installed by default afaik
[01:09] <Qantourisc> xfce4 is not in ubuntu database ? :(
[01:09] <bzimage> Qantourisc, it is..
[01:09] <skys> how to force apt-get to get the latest version from wine?
[01:10] <ompaul> skys, the packages have maintainers, these people keep your distribution managable, if you want to go playing with the latest version of something you have to solve all the problems that throws up by yourself, so do it if you have the time, or accept the thousands of hours that went into creating the distro you use
[01:10] <ompaul> skys, btw they also fix stuff
[01:10] <Qantourisc> then whay doesn't the search xfce4 turn up any results ?
[01:10] <Qantourisc> rong tree ?
[01:10] <skys> ompaul = ok
[01:10] <bzimage> !tell Qantourisc about repos
[01:10] <bzimage> need to add extra repos
[01:10] <deFrysk> ompaul, well put :)
[01:10] <bzimage> :)
[01:10] <skys> ompaul = ill stick with your idea.
[01:11] <ompaul> deFrysk, we really need a !latest type of thing - but I can't get it to cover all the bases I want - thats the closest yet
[01:12] <skys> well, i installed using packages but it has an error(launching wine only) , thats why i try new ver (also error compiling only)
[01:12] <JustinHH> bzimage, : yes. i forgot. but i have got one problem. i wanna listen to a webradio on www.energy.de. and there apears that i don't have a plugin. i try to find it with plugin finder but this can't find the plugin. the site redirects me to the site of microsoft
[01:12] <deFrysk> skys, read the docs on the wine main page
[01:12] <deFrysk> skys, keeps you out of trouble for a week or so ;)
[01:12] <skys> i will install again the wine packages...  ill be back  to report...
[01:13] <skys> deFrysk =yes sir!
[01:14] <ompaul> !tell JustinHH about codecs
[01:14] <JustinHH> ompaul, :  yes but i don`t know what codec i should install
[01:15] <pitti> klepas: ok, what was the problem?
[01:15] <klepas> Alrighty
[01:15] <klepas>  I'm trying to synchronise my user accounts over several distros (namely Suse and Ubuntu beta)
[01:15] <klepas> not copy across data
[01:16] <pitti> klepas: yep, I read it above
[01:16] <klepas> just be able to acces the accounts
[01:16] <ompaul> JustinHH, well lets look at it this way, if you install loads of them you will have more aviable to you and less questions to ask later :) {w32codecs would be a good place to start looking given that it told you to look at MS}
[01:16] <pitti> klepas: the short story is, there is no easy way to edit an uid in a running system
[01:16] <klepas> And the little ui tool to edit users/add them won't allow me to edit the UID from 1000 to 1002
[01:16] <klepas> ack
[01:16] <pitti> klepas: that's because it is virtually impossible online
[01:16] <klepas> do it from the Suse distro
[01:17] <klepas> would that work?
[01:17] <pitti> klepas: what you can do, is to mount your Ubuntu partition from SuSE
[01:17] <klepas> yep
[01:17] <pitti> klepas: then edit the user ids in /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow
[01:17] <pitti> klepas: and then chown -R all user homes
[01:17] <klepas> yep
[01:18] <pitti> klepas: but basically you should try to avoid this situation altogether
[01:18] <klepas> Yea.
[01:18] <pitti> klepas: use a common /home partition and just sync /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow
[01:18] <Qantourisc> how does the ubunutu kernel work ? does it use genkernel ?
[01:19] <klepas> Annoying thing is when i install Ubuntu I cannot regulate the assigned UID for the first user
[01:19] <klepas> nor any shared folders on a server
[01:19] <skys> i installed the wine using pkg but heres the error when running wine: creating configuration directory '/home/skys/.wine'...
[01:19] <skys> err:module:load_builtin_dll failed to load .so lib for builtin L"gdi32.dll": libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:19] <skys> err:module:import_dll Loading library gdi32.dll (which is needed by L"c:\\windows\\system\\user32.dll") failed (error c000007a).
[01:19] <skys> err:module:import_dll Library user32.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\windows\\rundll32.exe") not found
[01:19] <skys> err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L"C:\\windows\\rundll32.exe" failed, status c0000135
[01:19] <skys> wine: wineprefixcreate failed while creating '/home/skys/.wine'.
[01:19] <klepas> chown -R on all the home dirs
[01:19] <bimberi> skys: please don't flood
[01:19] <deFrysk> skys, you are flooding you might get a temp ban for that
[01:20] <HaNazir> hey guys. i want to disable xserver for my kids. so that when i'm not arround they dont go to certain places. how do i do that?
[01:20] <klepas> what's the command for that exactly?
[01:20] <klepas> # chown -R /home
[01:20] <klepas> I think...
[01:20] <deFrysk> skys, probs with running apps on wine are discussed in #wine
[01:20] <HaNazir> so that all users have X, but my kids only have console. they're young, so they only want to chat with centericq
[01:20] <deFrysk> skys, better try there
[01:22] <michel_> install ltsp with ubuntu breezy: login display but i cannot log me any idea?
[01:22] <klepas> Thank you pitti
[01:22] <skys> ok, thnx anyway.....
[01:23] <pitti> klepas: for fixing user "joe", it would be "sudo chown -R joe:joe /home/joe"
[01:23] <pitti> bah
[01:23] <pitti> too late
[01:25] <warty> HI YOU
[01:25] <warty> how do u do
[01:26] <aftertaf> bot attacks again....
[01:27] <Pickle_Weasel> is there a plugin for firefox that will let me view movies on a page without downloading them?
[01:27] <aftertaf> to view, you must dwnload... unless they stream (which is sort of d/l ing anyway)
[01:27] <Pickle_Weasel> that's what i mean though, i want to stream
[01:27] <bzimage> Pickle_Weasel, mozilla-mplayer
[01:27] <Pickle_Weasel> ty bzimage ^.^
[01:28] <bzimage> Pickle_Weasel, you maybe need extra codecs to..
[01:28] <Wipe-Out> and i'm back
[01:28] <bzimage> !tell Pickle_Weasel about codecs
[01:28] <Pickle_Weasel> i have the codecs, i just need the plugin
[01:28] <bzimage> ok
[01:29] <smott> is there some way to decrease the cpu speed of my centrino laptop? :(
[01:29] <ompaul> smott, why
[01:30] <smott> ompaul: it keeps overheating and then cooling every 10 minutes. it can't be good for the hardware
[01:30] <smott> it goes from 40C to 58C, then it turns on the fan and goes back to 45C and so on
[01:31] <ompaul> smott, are you leaving room underneath it for air to flow around the vents?
[01:31] <Qantourisc> how are the kernel soruces called ?
[01:31] <ompaul> smott, they run hot in 99% oc cases
[01:31] <ompaul> s/oc/of
[01:31] <kemik> smott:  edit bios and let the cpu-fan be more aggressive
[01:31] <Qantourisc> aa found them =S
[01:32] <kemik> Qantourisc:  linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[01:32] <bimberi> Qantourisc: linux-source-2.6.10 (for hoary)
[01:32] <kemik> bimberi:  $(uname -r) is better
[01:33] <Qantourisc> hmmm in wich repesory are tehy ?
[01:33] <bimberi> kemik: yes, but there's no -386 on the end of the package name (for example)
[01:33] <Qantourisc> i onyl have a 2.4 in my pacakge manager
[01:34] <bimberi> kemik: for linux-source packages that is, you're absolutely right about the headers
[01:34] <kemik> bimberi:  have you been smoking crack?
[01:34] <kemik> indeed i am ;)
[01:34] <bimberi> as am i
[01:34] <adl> Qantourisc, seems you have set the wrong distributions for the repositories - check: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[01:34] <aftertaf> !crack
[01:34] <ubotu> The primary cause of people asking me the wrong things.
[01:34] <aftertaf> looool
[01:35] <kemik> bimberi:  yes you are , for linux.source.. but i dont think that's what he needs
[01:35] <aftertaf> bob2:  can you set antibot mode????
[01:35] <kemik> aftertaf:  spambots+
[01:35] <kemik> ?
[01:35] <bimberi> 21:31 <Qantourisc> how are the kernel soruces called ?
[01:35] <aftertaf> spambots+?
[01:36] <kemik> nvm
[01:36] <kemik> im off to ce gym
[01:37] <JustinHH> on: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list re:(gedit:16050): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[01:37] <JustinHH>  / Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[01:37] <boxerboy29> has anyone else been getting errors when they star gnome?
[01:37] <Pickle_Weasel> this is rather angering me, i seem to have all repositories added, yet i can't find mplayer on my list...it just doesn't exist
[01:37] <boxerboy29> start*
[01:37] <smott> kemik: it doesn't seem to have such an option
[01:37] <kemik> Pickle_Weasel:  apt-get update
[01:38] <kemik> Pickle_Weasel:  and if it's not there, you dont have the correct repositories, or filelisting of them failed
[01:38] <kemik> i would guess universe is what you need
[01:38] <Pickle_Weasel> hmm, well i followed the adding repos how-to page, and my repository list says this paticular one that i need is enabled
[01:38] <Pickle_Weasel> multiverse
[01:38] <[zeno] > 'morning
[01:38] <RMeist> hi
[01:39] <bimberi> Pickle_Weasel: the packages have names such as mplayer-586
[01:39] <Blizzkid> lo all. I can't get my wifi working: open infrastructure. iwconfig gives link quality, signal level and noise level, but i don't get an IP, and my card indicates there's no connection. Help plz.
[01:39] <kemik> Pickle_Weasel:  apt-cache search <keyword>
[01:39] <kemik> Pickle_Weasel:  or better yet, use synaptic
[01:39] <Pickle_Weasel> bimberi, i know this, and it's not on the list =\
[01:39] <[zeno] > Blizzkid: have you assigned a IP to the eth card?
[01:39] <bimberi> Pickle_Weasel: ah, k
[01:39] <Pickle_Weasel> which is why i'm stumpted, i'm not the average noob >.>
[01:39] <bzimage> Pickle_Weasel, sudo apt-get update
[01:39] <Blizzkid> [zeno] : nopes. dhcp
[01:40] <Pickle_Weasel> did that also
[01:40] <kemik> Pickle_Weasel:  then you've not added the correct repos
[01:40] <[zeno] > Blizzkid: is your card configured to receive an IP from dhcp server?
[01:40] <bzimage> Pickle_Weasel, it's there.. i've installed it from it
[01:40] <deFrysk> Pickle_Weasel, try mplayer-386
[01:40] <kemik> Pickle_Weasel:  it's in universe/multiverse i think
[01:40] <Pickle_Weasel> you see, i thought that too, but i double checked, even removed and re-added by copy pasting
[01:40] <Blizzkid> indeed [zeno] : at least, as far as I know
[01:40] <kemik> Pickle_Weasel:  paste your sources.list on pastebin
[01:41] <Pickle_Weasel> ?
[01:41] <kemik> !pastebin
[01:41] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:41] <boxerboy29> noone else is getting the 3 refresh errors when they start gnome :(
[01:41] <Skid> erm like to cut a long story short, I've fecked my /lib/lsb/init-functions file, i know how to fix, but icnt boot back into ubuntu, i boot up (even with recovery) and it says give root p/w for maintentnce, do that, and the partiion /dev/hda3 is mounted as rw on /, but i an't write to any files
[01:41] <Skid> anyway i can get to write to the file to fix it?
[01:41] <[zeno] > Blizzkid: verify your /etc/network/interfaces file
[01:41] <Skid> as i really dont want to format, just got everything nice :)
[01:41] <Pickle_Weasel> i see, and where is sources.list located?
[01:41] <kemik> Skid:  get a livecd and mount the partiton and edit your files
[01:41] <Blizzkid> [zeno] : iface ath0 inet dhcp
[01:41] <kemik> Pickle_Weasel:  /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:42] <Pickle_Weasel> ty
[01:42] <Skid> is there any other way, as I dont have a seperate cd writer :P
[01:42] <[zeno] > Blizzkid: so it's ok
[01:42] <kemik> Skid:  im sure there are.. but to me that'd be the simplest way.. just goto some internetcafe/friend/relative wahtever and burn one ;)
[01:42] <bzimage> Skid, you know the root pass?
[01:42] <Skid> bzimage: yes.
[01:42] <Skid> kemik: ya, i jsut wonderd if i could do it another way :P
[01:43] <Blizzkid> [zeno] : yes, but for some reason, it seems there's no connection with the ap
[01:43] <Skid> i missed a right bracket (] ) grr
[01:43] <Skid> and its fecked everything :P
[01:43] <Skid> *slap*
[01:43] <Pickle_Weasel> kemik, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2611
[01:43] <kemik> Skid:  take the HD and put in another linux comp. mount it and add your changes
[01:43] <Skid> its a laptop heh
[01:43] <[zeno] > Blizzkid: of course! :)
[01:43] <kemik> oh ym
[01:43] <kemik> Pickle_Weasel:  that sources.list is NO GOOD
[01:43] <[zeno] > Blizzkid: thinking about a solution
[01:43] <pinoyskull> is there a way to play videos without buffering it first in xine?
[01:43] <kemik> !repositories
[01:43] <ubotu> repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy))
[01:43] <Pickle_Weasel> =o
[01:44] <Pickle_Weasel> i followed that step by step..
[01:44] <Pickle_Weasel> =\
[01:44] <Blizzkid> [zeno] : hope that doesn't hurt too much ;-)
[01:44] <dade`> how to install eclipse on breezy ? what repository should i use ?
[01:44] <bzimage> Pickle_Weasel, deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted need added: universe and multiverse
[01:44] <kemik> Pickle_Weasel:  well you dont want to mix hoary/warty repositories
[01:44] <kemik> Pickle_Weasel:  and you dont want the old backports eiterh
[01:44] <pinoyskull> is there a way to play videos without buffering it first in xine? anybody knows?
[01:45] <kemik> Pickle_Weasel:  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969  <.. use that one and apt-update
[01:45] <Pickle_Weasel> i see
[01:45] <Pickle_Weasel> ok
[01:45] <Pickle_Weasel> ^.^
[01:45] <brenner_> pinoyskull: you mean streams?
[01:45] <pinoyskull> ya
[01:45] <pinoyskull> well
[01:45] <Pickle_Weasel> can i just gedit mine to a copy of that one?
[01:45] <pinoyskull> not for streams, but videos accross the lan
[01:45] <hutgyrr> i trying to archive stuff here and first it seems to put all the files into the archive, then splits it into two files then recompresses, then decompress. Whats goin on?
[01:45] <bzimage> vlc
[01:45] <Jack_B> hey guys does xmms play wma's by default? or do i have to get codecs
[01:46] <bzimage> videolan
[01:46] <kemik> Pickle_Weasel:  yeah... but yo need to edit with sudo
[01:46] <dajomu>  I am wondering why my SystemRescueCd is stopping with the bootup message * Starting USB and PCI hotplugging
[01:46] <pinoyskull> how bout xine
[01:46] <kemik> Pickle_Weasel:  "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[01:46] <brenner_> pinoyskull: nothing in prefs?
[01:46] <Pickle_Weasel> i know that kemik
[01:46] <Pickle_Weasel> =\
[01:46] <pinoyskull> what do u mean brenner
[01:46] <kemik> Pickle_Weasel:  just replace your sources.list with the one from pastebin that i pasted
[01:46] <bzimage> Jack_B, you need codecs
[01:46] <bzimage> afaik
[01:46] <brenner_> Jack_B: afaik, you _do_ need them
[01:47] <Pickle_Weasel> that is what i am going to do, thank you
[01:47] <bimberi> !info eclipse-platform breezy
[01:47] <Jack_B> ok
[01:47] <ubotu> eclipse-platform: (Eclipse platform without plug-ins to develop any language), section universe/devel, is optional. Version: 3.1-0ubuntu7 (breezy), Packaged size: 22809 kB, Installed size: 64524 kB
[01:47] <brenner_> pinoyskull: tried looking in options?
[01:47] <Jack_B> as in w32codecs?
[01:47] <Jack_B> or is that for wmv's only?
[01:47] <bzimage> Jack_B, no it's for many formats..
[01:47] <Skid> omg lol
[01:47] <Skid> i just found an ubuntu livecd under my sofa
[01:47] <Skid> hows that for luck?
[01:47] <dade`> ecj-bootstrap-gcj - bootstrap version of the Eclipse Java compiler (native version)
[01:47] <dade`> eclipse-sdk - Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE
[01:47] <bzimage> but it's not in the repos anymore.. (legal restrictions)
[01:47] <pinoyskull> brenner_ ill try that again, cuz i already did look into it
[01:48] <Blizzkid> why is wlan still such a pain in the a** in linux?
[01:48] <Jack_B> bzimage, so which codecs should i get
[01:48] <brenner_> bzimage: gee i've been missing a while...since when?
[01:48] <bimberi> !info eclipse-sdk breezy
[01:48] <ubotu> eclipse-sdk: (Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE), section universe/devel, is optional. Version: 3.1-0ubuntu7 (breezy), Packaged size: 68 kB, Installed size: 256 kB
[01:48] <bimberi> dade`: you need the universe repository enabled
[01:48] <bzimage> brenner, since not so long ago
[01:48] <[zeno] > Blizzkid: my father is calling me to have the lunch.. if you can, try to configure your AP and eth with static IP and verify if the card goes well
[01:48] <Pickle_Weasel> kemik, that fixed everything, thank you ^.^
[01:49] <Blizzkid> [zeno] : i'll have a try
[01:49] <brenner_> bzimage: not surprising i guess....
[01:49] <Jack_B> YOU'VE BEEN THUNDERSTRUCKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:49] <Jack_B> OH YEH THUNDERSTRUCKED!!!!!
[01:49] <dade`>   eclipse-sdk: Depends: eclipse-jdt (= 3.1-0ubuntu7) but it is not installable
[01:49] <dade`>                Depends: eclipse-pde (= 3.1-0ubuntu7) but it is not installable
[01:49] <smott> my laptop has cpufreq_userspace, cpufreq_stats, cpufreq_ondemand, cpufreq_powersave, cpufreq_conservative modules loaded, but cpufreq_selector says that there's no cpufreq support ... ?
[01:49] <dade`> bimberi
[01:49] <dade`> see that..
[01:49] <Jack_B> \m/ rock on ac/dc
[01:51] <Jack_B> bzimage, i just installed w32codecs and so far xmms won't play any of my wmas
[01:51] <brenner_> is it ac/dc day or something?
[01:51] <Jack_B> brenner, sure is
[01:52] <brenner_> Jack_B: i'd think you'd need an xmms* package...
[01:52] <bimberi> dade`: hm, ok, from what i can tell they're in universe too
[01:52] <Jack_B> brenner: ok
[01:52] <bzimage> ac/dc isn't that powercircuit
[01:52] <bzimage> ?
[01:53] <bzimage> pom pom
[01:53] <Blizzkid> anyone else could help me on wifi?
[01:53] <Jack_B> bzimage: Blasphemy! its a band
[01:53] <dade`> bimberi: maybe because i'm on ppc ?
[01:53] <vikash> i have configured samba
[01:53] <vikash> my system is accessible on network by window machines
[01:53] <Lear> hello everybody
[01:53] <kemik> Pickle_Weasel:  youre welcome ;)
[01:53] <vikash> but  when i share other folder by shared folders it's not showing
[01:53] <bimberi> dade`: ah yes, probably :|
[01:54] <Jack_B> brenner: xmms package as in xmms-wma_1.0.4-2_i386.deb?
[01:54] <vikash> anybody help me
[01:54] <brenner_> Jack_B: no clue...is that in the repo?
[01:54] <Jack_B> brenner: nope got it off ubuntuguide.com
[01:54] <vikash> by simply
[01:54] <vikash> right click on folder and share is not working
[01:55] <vikash> help me plz
[01:55] <brenner_> Jack_B: use at your own risk i guess then...
[01:55] <bzimage> you mean ubuntuguide.org
[01:55] <vikash> hi bzimage
[01:55] <Jack_B> yep bzimage
[01:55] <bzimage> !ubuntuguide
[01:55] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is, like, totally, out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[01:55] <brenner_> Blizzkid: searched the wiki?
[01:55] <Jack_B> awww
[01:55] <Jack_B> !faq
[01:55] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/
[01:55] <vikash> hello anybpdy
[01:56] <boxerboy29> someone needs to update ubotu its already in the menu
[01:56] <vikash> help lpz
[01:56] <Jack_B> what if you have hoary instead?
[01:56] <nxv_> are there any packages for tuskjuggler somewhere to download?
[01:56] <bzimage> hi vikash
[01:56] <vikash> my query is related to sharing
[01:56] <nalioth> vikash: quit whining. if someone knows the answer to your question, they'll answer. you arent gonna whine an answer out of anyone
[01:56] <Blizzkid> brenner_: yep, followed it step by step, but..... "If it doesn't and you get statements saying "Destination host unreachable" or "request timed out", then you've got a problem and you aren't connected. (somebody should write some instructions on what to do next)."  ---> exactly what I have now
[01:56] <vikash> hi
[01:56] <vikash> can u help me
[01:56] <brenner_> Jack_B: wiki and forums...
[01:56] <vikash> bzimage
[01:56] <bzimage> ehm.. maybe..
[01:56] <brenner_> ....and #ubuntu itself
[01:57] <Jack_B> brenner, roger that chief
[01:57] <vikash> how to share folders
[01:57] <vikash> so that they can be accesed on other machines on network
[01:57] <vikash> hello
[01:57] <vikash> got it?
[01:57] <bimberi> dade`: i've checked on packages.debian.org and both eclipse-pde and eclipse-jdt are for "all" not just "i386"
[01:57] <brenner_> Blizzkid: i usually see peoplelist hetir h/ware specs in here...that might help
[01:58] <Jack_B> holy crap my comp just lagged for the first time on ubuntu
[01:58] <brenner_> Blizzkid: also...search the forum while you wait
[01:58] <bzimage> vikash, i read that the windows boxes can see the linux box?
[01:58] <vikash> ok
[01:58] <bimberi> dade`: i wonder why the ubuntu ones are for i386 only, an error perhaps?
[01:58] <vikash> but only my home folder
[01:58] <vikash> is accessible
[01:58] <bzimage> sh*t i'm lagging like h*ll
[01:58] <Blizzkid> I get "Activating interface ath0" for a long time. After that it says "The interface ath0 is active", but I have no connection to the ap
[01:58] <bzimage> exit
[01:58] <vikash> but suppose i have to share other then
[01:58] <bzimage> brb
[01:59] <dade`> bimberi: how can we see if ubuntu one are 386 only ?
[01:59] <nalioth> vikash: it is a security issue to share other things than your homedirectory
[01:59] <bimberi> dade`: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[01:59] <vikash> ok but i want to share
[01:59] <dade`> cool
[01:59] <vikash> so that other people on my home network can access it
[02:00] <vikash> actually i want to share folder from my fat32 drive
[02:00] <dade`> .. i386
[02:00] <vikash> which i mounted
[02:00] <dade`> bimberi: so, this is not good. :(
[02:00] <vikash> nalioth where r u?
[02:00] <mahangu> how do you untar something?
[02:00] <vikash> got it?/
[02:00] <bimberi> dade`: no, but 2 things could be tried...
[02:01] <dade`> bimberi: tellme
[02:01] <Qantourisc> where can i find a list of the repository's please ?
[02:01] <nalioth> Qantourisc: /msg ubotu sources
[02:01] <bimberi> dade`: 1. download and install the debian packages 2. try downloading the ubuntu i386 packages and attempting to install them anywat
[02:01] <riddlebox> where do I put my wep key for wireless?
[02:01] <bimberi> *anyway
[02:01] <vikash> nalioth can u help me
[02:01] <dade`> bimberi: install a i386 package on ppc ?
[02:01] <brenner_> mahangu: tar xf <file>, iirc
[02:02] <dade`> !@#[] 
[02:02] <ubotu> dade`: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[02:02] <nalioth> vikash: no i'm sorry i dont run intel machines
[02:02] <Jack_B> is there a list for all the commands i can enter in this channel ?
[02:02] <vikash> which one u use
[02:02] <vikash> mac
[02:02] <Jack_B> like !faq etc
[02:02] <bimberi> dade`: i'm working on the theory that it's a packaging error
[02:02] <nalioth> mahangu: brenner_: tar xvzf file.tar.gz
[02:02] <bimberi> dade`: but maybe 1. is better :)
[02:02] <nalioth> Jack_B: any IRC howto can help you
[02:02] <brenner_> nalioth: that's gzipped though
[02:03] <deFrysk> !tell Jack_B about ubotu
[02:03] <aftertaf> xvjf then brenner_
[02:03] <nalioth> brenner_: you mean somebody let gzip off lightly?
[02:03] <bimberi> Jack_B: /help
[02:03] <Jack_B> thanks deFrysk
[02:03] <vikash> can anybody tell me how to share folder from a mounted drive
[02:03] <dade`> bimberi: i386 and ppc are 2 different packages, not the same binary
[02:03] <fredforfaen> is there a solution for peeps who want to install things.....backports seems down , any other repos i could use?
[02:03] <mahangu> files i downloa dand install, where should i put them? i mean untar them to
[02:04] <brenner> mahangu: what files?
[02:04] <Jack_B> bimberi, i'm talking about queries for ubotu
[02:04] <bimberi> dade`: i know that. but the debian packages are for "all" and eclipse _is_ java based
[02:04] <nalioth> fredforfaen: you ran off yesterday b4 i could point you to the solution
[02:04] <aftertaf> mahangu:  the tar xvjf|xvzf command does it automatically
[02:04] <bimberi> Jack_B: yes, sorry
[02:04] <aftertaf> you can the mv the directory to a new name
[02:04] <brenner> aftertaf: you're probably right.....
[02:04] <fredforfaen> nalioth sorry about that
[02:04] <fredforfaen> so whats the solution nalioth ?
[02:04] <aftertaf> brenner:  i know little, but i progress and pick things up here and there ;)
[02:04] <Jack_B> bimberi, no worries
[02:04] <nalioth> fredforfaen: your answer is here: http://planet.ubuntulinux.org/
[02:05] <fredforfaen> nalioth ok thanx
[02:05] <mahangu> aftertaf, that means it puts in /usr/bin ?
[02:05] <Qantourisc> sorry i must be missing something the 2.6 kernels do not apear
[02:05] <nalioth> mahangu: NEVER put anything in /usr/bin. YOU install things into /usr/local/bin
[02:05] <aftertaf> mahangu:  nope... when you untar a file, it is unpacked where you typed the file....
[02:06] <fredforfaen> nalioth thanx a million!
[02:06] <aftertaf> mahangu:  what are you d/l ing anyway.. source code?
[02:06] <nalioth> fredforfaen: enjoy
[02:06] <bimberi> dade`: anyway, gtg, good luck :)
[02:07] <mahangu> aftertaf, i did apt-get instead
[02:07] <mahangu> for supybot
[02:07] <aftertaf> mahangu:  if it can be apt-getted, always better to get it that way...
[02:07] <brenner> Qantourisc: what are you looking for exactly?
[02:07] <twibbler> ? has anybody had problems with openoffice in Breezy ... I have no help installed which is causing problems ...
[02:08] <afaik> two questions
[02:08] <Qantourisc> brenner: a pritty new kernel, and xorg to get some drivers working
[02:08] <afaik> how do I view a vob file?
[02:08] <dade`> ubotu: who are you ?
[02:08] <ubotu> dade`: I think you lost me on that one
[02:08] <Pickle_Weasel> what's a good MSN client that isn't shoddy and unstable, like aMSN?
[02:08] <afaik> and how do I use rar to piece together a multifile rar file
[02:08] <afaik> Pickle_Weasel, gaim
[02:08] <Pickle_Weasel> anything else? i'd like to keep my AIM and MSN separate =\
[02:08] <nalioth> afaik: use tar + bzip2
[02:09] <dade`> ubotu: yes, you told me to speak english ?
[02:09] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, dade`
[02:09] <XHK>  I have to run some kind of file, i typed sudo /<directory>/ but it says there is no such command as sudo: /<directory>/. If i type the directory without sudo, it says i have no permissions :S
[02:09] <afaik> nalioth, how the fuck do I use tar + bzip2 to extract a multifile rar file?
[02:09] <brenner> Qantourisc: xorg would be xserver-xorg iirc, kernels would be linux-image*....apt-cache search or use synaptic once you've got your repos up.
[02:09] <dade`> stfu
[02:09] <nalioth> afaik: language please
[02:09] <Qantourisc> brenner: going to copy over the example reposity now
[02:09] <brenner> you wouldn't....
[02:10] <XHK>  I have to run some kind of file, i typed sudo /<directory>/ but it says there is no such command as sudo: /<directory>/. If i type the directory without sudo, it says i have no permissions :S How can i run it then?
[02:10] <brenner> ubotu: tell dade` about ubotu
[02:10] <afaik> I just ran rar x first_file.rar
[02:10] <nalioth> afaik: if you have unrar-nonfree installed you start at part1.rar or .rar and it'll open
[02:10] <brenner> dade`: :)
[02:10] <nalioth> afaik: that should do it, too
[02:10] <dade`> i know
[02:11] <DanglyBits> is kde 3.5 beta available for ubuntu amd64?
[02:11] <dade`> but it screamed at me with no reason before
[02:11] <dade`> so that bot sucks
[02:11] <dade`> ahah
[02:11] <XHK>  I have to run some kind of file, i typed sudo /<directory>/ but it says there is no such command as sudo: /<directory>/. If i type the directory without sudo, it says i have no permissions :S How can i run it then?
[02:11] <Jack_B> what does the multiverse, universe and restricted after the repositories indicate?
[02:11] <brenner> XHK: usually means you typed a nonexistent directory...what's the exact command you used?
[02:11] <thrthr> ;p
[02:11] <brenner> non-existing even
[02:11] <nerp\a\> XHK, yeah, what brenner said
[02:11] <jibo> ciao
[02:11] <XHK> but that directory does ecist
[02:12] <afaik> there's another repository
[02:12] <afaik> rarely mentioned, and even hated by most
[02:12] <brenner> dade`: yeah....the responses have been critisisced before
[02:12] <brenner> :)
[02:12] <XHK> I go try more then...
[02:12] <afaik> warez repository
[02:12] <nalioth> XHK: you dont execute directories, anyway
[02:12] <afaik> apt-get install vmware
[02:12] <afaik> apt-get install cxoffice
[02:12] <Qantourisc> ok i found the example sources.list :p
[02:12] <afaik> etc
[02:13] <Jack_B> what does the multiverse, universe and restricted after the repositories mean?
[02:13] <nalioth> Jack_B: their legal standing
[02:13] <atha> Jack_B: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components
[02:13] <Jack_B> nalioth, can you elaborate further?
[02:14] <nalioth> Jack_B: see the link above
[02:14] <havoc> Jack_B: I believe the restricted are the "non-free" packages
[02:14] <Jack_B> ahh ok cool
[02:14] <afaik> it means packages that are from the universe, packages that are from the multiverse (other dimensions) and restricted (warez)
[02:14] <fredforfaen> nalioth that gave me newer software to :)
[02:14] <nalioth> fredforfaen: imagine that
[02:15] <afaik> don't use the restricted repos unless you want to get arrested
[02:15] <aftertaf> hehe
[02:15] <cat> lol
[02:15] <DanglyBits> is kde 3.5 beta available for ubuntu amd64?
[02:15] <deFrysk> no
[02:15] <aftertaf> DanglyBits:  nope.
[02:15] <nalioth> DanglyBits: better to ask in #kubuntu
[02:15] <cat> nope
[02:15] <DanglyBits> thnk
[02:16] <brownie17> what is the command for file foller?
[02:16] <cat> brownie17: ?
[02:16] <cat> file foller?
[02:16] <brownie17> like howwould i run it form terminal?
[02:16] <brownie17> the archive manager
[02:16] <atha> you mean file-roller ?
[02:16] <cat> brownie17: file-roller?
[02:16] <brownie17> oh ok
[02:16] <deFrysk> brownie17, just rightklick a package in nautilus and select extract
[02:16] <lorenzod> file-roller, perhaps?
[02:16] <brownie17> deFrysk, i need sudo to do i though
[02:16] <deFrysk> brownie17, sudo to extract ?
[02:17] <deFrysk> why ?
[02:17] <cat> deFrysk: extract what?
[02:17] <cat> !doc
[02:17] <ubotu> I guess doc is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation is a good doc to read
[02:17] <deFrysk> cat that too ;p
[02:17] <cat> yeah
[02:17] <cat> i love reading that's the thing
[02:17] <nerp> !karma seveas
[02:17] <ubotu> seveas has neutral karma
[02:18] <cat> seveas is really good with linux
[02:18] <rejden> i was thinkin, is there any possibility that developers will add Ad-Hoc feature in Gnome Network Connection and also durring instalation?
[02:18] <Qantourisc> what happens if a pacackage is in more then one repository ?
[02:18] <cat> Qantourisc: nothing
[02:18] <Chousuke> the newest one is installed.
[02:18] <Qantourisc> hmm odd
[02:18] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, conflicts lock ups an broken installs
[02:18] <Chousuke> unless you use apt-pinning
[02:18] <rejden> Chousuke, newest stable right?
[02:18] <Chousuke> rejden: stable?
[02:19] <Qantourisc> still missing 2.6 kernels after adding the hole list found here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[02:19] <hhurtta> is Colony some new codename for latest Ubuntu release?
[02:19] <Chousuke> It'll just look at the version number and install the newest.
[02:19] <rejden> Chousuke, yes stable version of package
[02:19] <nalioth> Qantourisc: you'll only find the 2.6 kernels in breezy
[02:19] <piterr> hi
[02:19] <Qantourisc> aaaa
[02:19] <piterr> somebody can join to #help,0 ? I can't
[02:19] <Chousuke> rejden: Apt doesn't distinguish between stable and unstable.
[02:20] <nerp> i'll brb, gotta restart x
[02:20] <rejden> Chousuke, ok, i'm BSD guy ;)
[02:20] <Chousuke> Unless you use apt-pinning.
[02:20] <Qantourisc>                          5.10 (Breezy Badger) Preview Release ?
[02:20] <Chousuke> which is an advanced technique
[02:20] <Qantourisc> you mean i must install 5.1 then ?
[02:20] <Chousuke> No-one's forcing you.
[02:20] <deFrysk> 5.10 or 5.04
[02:21] <Chousuke> Warty is still usable too, you know.
[02:21] <Qantourisc> so how do i upgrade from 5.04 to 5.1
[02:21] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, read the topic
[02:21] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, there is a link there
[02:21] <Skid> hm, in screen can I have like two terminals joined as one (note: NOT multisession screen)
[02:21] <Qantourisc> okies
[02:21] <hhurtta> command is /topic, if you're using irssi
[02:21] <shekhar> can someone help me with bluetooth manager in breezy?
[02:21] <atha> second link in /topic
[02:21] <Skid> as in irssi at the top, and then *shrug* top in the bottom ?
[02:21] <ccooke-work> Skid: what exactly do you mean?
[02:21] <Skid> Im sure i saw a screen shot
[02:21] <Skid> erm, do you use irssi ccooke-work ?
[02:22] <ccooke-work> Skid: ah, right.
[02:22] <ccooke-work> yes, I do.
[02:22] <Skid> if you have a "split" window.. similar to that in screen
[02:22] <Qantourisc> WARNING: BACK UP EVERYTHING YOU DON'T WANT TO LOSE BEFORE ATTEMPTING THIS!    <= sounds serieus :p
[02:22] <ccooke-work> You want a split screen.
[02:22] <Skid> split window contains irssi completely (aka notices split window), bottom other
[02:22] <ccooke-work> this is possible
[02:22] <piterr> by plp #ubuntu,0 ruls
[02:22] <Skid> hmm, google returns all but what im after
[02:22] <ccooke-work> Skid: Ctrl-a S
[02:22] <Skid> can't find it in man page
[02:22] <Chousuke> Qantourisc: It's safer than upgrading gentoo
[02:22] <Skid> oki lets see
[02:22] <deFrysk> Chousuke, hehe
[02:22] <Qantourisc> Chousuke: i find upgrading gentoo VERRY safe
[02:22] <deFrysk> how true
[02:23] <Chousuke> Qantourisc: It's still less safe than upgrading Ubuntu
[02:23] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, why are you on ubuntu then ?
[02:23] <ccooke-work> Skid: Ctrl-a <tab> to switch between them
[02:23] <ccooke-work> Skid: Ctrl-a K to kill one.
[02:23] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: because someone else wan't to use it :p
[02:23] <Chousuke> Especially if you're upgrading to unstable gentoo :P
[02:23] <Skid> hmm
[02:23] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, ahh :)
[02:23] <Chousuke> and hmm
[02:23] <Skid> doesn't seem to be working
[02:23] <Skid> ctrl-a+s ?
[02:23] <nerp> I liked emerge world
[02:23] <Chousuke> are you running hoary already?
[02:23] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, smart sombody else that is :)
[02:23] <ccooke-work> no, wait. Not ctrl-a K.
[02:23] <Chousuke> you don't need a CD if you are.
[02:24] <dmacdonald111> hi again. I seem to have stumbled upon a problem. With mepis (which I am using now) my wireless network is not only recognised, but set up correctly. However, I have been trying to set it up in ubuntu, but it does not even recognise the wireless lan. I have searched the internet, but unable to find any help on the wireless lan that I have. Has anyone managed to do this?
[02:24] <Skid> ahh
[02:24] <Skid> case sensitive
[02:24] <Chousuke> just edit a couple lines in /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:24] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: all depends on what you wat from your linux, in my case it's gentoo :p
[02:24] <ccooke-work> Skid: YES.
[02:24] <ccooke-work> oop.
[02:24] <Skid> nice htanks
[02:24] <Skid> ;P
[02:24] <Skid> thanks even
[02:24] <Skid> hehe
[02:24] <nalioth> dmacdonald111: why are you not in #mepis?
[02:24] <ccooke-work> Skid: it's Ctrl-a X to kill the current region.
[02:24] <nerp> nalioth, because he's trying to fix a ubuntu problem
[02:24] <Skid> hmm
[02:24] <dmacdonald111> because I want ubuntu working and to get away from mepis.
[02:24] <ccooke-work> okay?
[02:24] <Skid> how do you fork anothe rprocess in the othe rscsreen then?
[02:24] <Skid> I can't seem to do anything in it ;)
[02:25] <nerp> ccooke-work, may I pm?
[02:25] <nalioth> dmacdonald111: can you copy the network settings from mepis?
[02:25] <deFrysk> !wireless
[02:25] <ubotu> I guess wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[02:25] <Skid> hm, that's cool
[02:25] <ccooke-work> nerp: sure.
[02:25] <dmacdonald111> nalioth: I have tried, but it doesn't even pick up the wireless lan at all. I have all the settings and information.
[02:26] <ccooke-work> Skid: just use the standard screen stuff
[02:26] <shekhar> help
[02:26] <ccooke-work> Skid: ctrl-a <number> to change to another screen window, or ctrl-a : exec bash, say, to run a shell
[02:26] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: gentoo is like an ongoing work, there are no "mayor" upgrades :p
[02:26] <deFrysk> shekhar, good question
[02:26] <ccooke-work> or Ctrl-a c inside a region to open a new shell, rather
[02:27] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, I know , its a boring compile list
[02:27] <cat> shekhar: ask
[02:27] <shekhar> deFrysk:  it helps to ask first to get someone's attention :) -- i have a question about logout in gnome
[02:27] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: who said you had to look at while it's compiling :p
[02:27] <cat> what about it
[02:27] <cat> ?
[02:27] <Skid> ccooke-work: thank you :)
[02:27] <deFrysk> shekhar, here we just ask
[02:27] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: you silly :p
[02:27] <Skid> just found it at botto of manpage, I overlooked it last itme
[02:27] <dmacdonald111> I have the broadcom4306 set up as eth0. Is this the wireless lan? I currently use it as wlan0
[02:27] <cat> Skid: where?
[02:27] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, it slows down my pc ;p
[02:27] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: hell i'm recompiling my entire system as we speak :p
[02:27] <shekhar> deFrysk:  when i want to restart or shut down, most of the time it just saves my session and doesn't restart or shut down
[02:27] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: that's why you have "nice" :p
[02:27] <Skid> cat: it's like c-a
[02:28] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, better yours slow then mine ;p
[02:28] <Skid> where c = the control character, I assume
[02:28] <cat> Skid: give me the link
[02:28] <Skid> cat: I'm reading the man page
[02:28] <efemer> salut
[02:28] <Skid> (man screen)
[02:28] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: sec, merging config files
[02:28] <cat> oh
[02:28] <cat> man
[02:29] <Ronaldinho> hi everyone
[02:29] <efemer> je voulais savoir si le logiciel graveman gere les rippage mp3 wave pour graver un cd audio ?
[02:29] <ccooke-work> screen is surely one of the mostuselful and mind-bogglingly insane programs ever to be written.
[02:29] <Kira> A silly question: How does Canonical Ltd. make money?
[02:29] <Skid> ccooke-work: indeed
[02:29] <Skid> I also like xmove
[02:29] <IcE-bOy> hji
[02:29] <IcE-bOy> hi
[02:29] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, </distrowar>
[02:29] <Skid> that's really funky :)
[02:29] <nalioth> efemer: in #ubuntu-fr, s'il vous plait
[02:29] <IcE-bOy> how can i use my own DSDT table (.aml file) with a intramfs kernel ?
[02:29] <stucel> hi i install ubuntu on my ancient machine, it says some packages faild to install and now it cannot start X server, how to configure X server ?
[02:29] <nerp> ccooke-work, did you recieve my pm?
[02:29] <nalioth> Kira: it's owner is a bazillionaire
[02:29] <efemer> ok thanks =) nalioth
[02:29] <ccooke-work> nerp: ... I replied...
[02:30] <Skid> what'd be cool, is that if you could resize the windows, and stuff
[02:30] <Ronaldinho> any of you know the "new repositories" where I can fin Java and w32codecs and the rest missing?
[02:30] <Kira> efemer would like to know if the graveman software manages mp3 wave ripping for cd audio burning.
[02:30] <nerp> ccooke-work, I never got any reply..
[02:30] <ccooke-work> how odd.
[02:30] <nerp> yeah, no kidding
[02:30] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: i'm not going to go into a distrowar :p
[02:30] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, yes you are! ;p
[02:30] <ccooke-work> that's odd.
[02:30] <efemer> Kira: you speak usualy french ?
[02:30] <nerp> yeh, no kidding
[02:30] <nerp> ccooke-work, try /notice
[02:31] <ulisse> hello tribe!
[02:31] <ccooke-work> it says private messages from unregistered users are blocked. Could have sworn I was registered
[02:31] <Kira> efemer: I live in Quebec. :)
[02:31] <efemer> ok
[02:31] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: quess i got caried away then, but this is my opnion on ALL distro wars: it's because A likes this or doesn't care about B that makes distro X better for him or her.
[02:31] <ccooke-work> I mean, I wouldn't be here otherwise...
[02:31] <nerp> ccooke-work, ahh.. maybe not ccooke-work but just ccooke is
[02:31] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: this difference for evry person, and sistuation, thus it's and endless debate
[02:31] <Ronaldinho> any of you know the "new repositories" where I can fin Java and w32codecs and the rest missing?
[02:31] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, ^5
[02:31] <ccooke-work> doh.
[02:31] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: bit like taste :)
[02:31] <ccooke> you have a good point
[02:31] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, for sure
[02:31] <Ronaldinho> guys?
[02:32] <Ronaldinho> please
[02:32] <Ronaldinho> any of you know the "new repositories" where I can fin Java and w32codecs and the rest missing?
[02:32] <brenner> Ronaldinho: i've heard w32codecs has been removed
[02:32] <deFrysk> Ronaldinho, patience please please....
[02:32] <Ronaldinho> ssory
[02:32] <nalioth> Ronaldinho: breezy or hoary?
[02:32] <stucel> hi i install ubuntu on my ancient machine, it says some packages faild to install and now it cannot start X server, how to configure X server ?
[02:32] <Ronaldinho> hoary
[02:32] <afaik> Ronaldinho, the java package probably uses the GNU classpath crap
[02:32] <nalioth> Ronaldinho: http://www.giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/
[02:32] <nerp> stucel, dpkg-configure
[02:32] <brenner> stucel: did the install stuff up in any way?
[02:32] <Qantourisc> stucel: <your terminal editor here> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:32] <stucel> thx nerp
[02:32] <afaik> Ronaldinho, you are better off getting java from sun and installing it
[02:32] <nalioth> brenner: want to learn something?
[02:32] <deFrysk> Ronaldinho, its very simple to make a dej for java
[02:32] <Qantourisc> stucel: or xorg-config or xorgcfg
[02:33] <deFrysk> deb*
[02:33] <stucel> thx everybody
[02:33] <Ronaldinho> with alien?
[02:33] <Ronaldinho> right
[02:33] <deFrysk> no
[02:33] <stucel> im sorry brenner, im noob
[02:33] <deFrysk> Ronaldinho, with java package
[02:33] <nalioth> Ronaldinho: the debs i pointed you to were created by an ubuntu developer for ubuntu
[02:33] <deFrysk> java-pakage that is
[02:33] <nalioth> deFrysk: afaik brenner see my prior post
[02:33] <deFrysk> java-package that is darn spelling
[02:33] <Qantourisc> nerp: what is this dpkg-configure thing ? and automates system configurer ?
[02:34] <stucel> how to start the X server ?
[02:34] <afaik> but java-package uses the GNU classpath
[02:34] <Ronaldinho> cool guys
[02:34] <Qantourisc> stucel: startx, or restart the euu xgml or something
[02:34] <brenner> nalioth: so they _have_ been removed?
[02:34] <Ronaldinho> thanx for the help
[02:34] <ccooke> afaik: it works fine with the Sun JRE
[02:34] <nerp> Qantourisc, yeah something like that, it's an original debian tool to set up certain progs / apps that may need to be customised rather than just doing a generic install
[02:34] <afaik> ccooke, I have ran into a lot of problems with the GNU classpath
[02:35] <ccooke> afaik: I use it to play Go, so it's about my most important application
[02:35] <ulisse> is there safe a way to run fsck on a running os? on mounted partitions, I mean..
[02:35] <Qantourisc> stucel: normally there is a procces running on screen0 (aka f7) that keeps the X alive
[02:35] <ccooke> afaik: the java-package sun java debs are working fine
[02:35] <deFrysk> yes they work great
[02:35] <nalioth> brenner: yes for legal reasons
[02:35] <stucel> i tink the problem is, the X server failed to install
[02:35] <afaik> I use it to run JEdit, ArgoUML, and a ton of j2ee stuff
[02:35] <Qantourisc> stucel: so you can eiter restart that procces or run startx (single launch of X)
[02:35] <brenner> nalioth: if so, won't that guy/girl be liable for prosecution?
[02:35] <nalioth> brenner: got a pencil or a bookmark tool?
[02:35] <brenner> nalioth: heh. haven't been online recently.....shoot
[02:36] <nalioth> brenner: want the URLs so you can send seveas to jail?
[02:36] <nalioth> brenner: seveas wrote them and was hosting them
[02:36] <Qantourisc> howlong does .... euuu upgrade to breeze take ?
[02:36] <Qantourisc> :p
[02:36] <nalioth> brenner: these are for hoary http://www.giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/
[02:36] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, 600 meg + installing
[02:37] <nalioth> brenner: and these are for breezy http://giannaros.org/tor/bt/
[02:37] <ompaul> ulisse, no
[02:37] <nalioth> brenner: now you can be helpful
[02:37] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, so depends on your bandwith and proc speed
[02:37] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: arg and i download the 5.04 yust yesterday :p should have downloaded the 5.1 :D
[02:37] <ulisse> ompaul, and is there a way to ceck a disk w/o too much complicated instructions?
[02:37] <concept10> Today's breezy update includes 99 updates :)
[02:37] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, you should but upgrade is seemless so should work fine
[02:37] <ompaul> ulisse, if you want to reboot the machine I can give you a one liner
[02:38] <ulisse> ompaul, I discovered that my GF, at work, always used the reset button to switch OS...
[02:38] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: i'm upgrading now :p
[02:38] <deFrysk> concept10, due to modules of xorg
[02:38] <manuk> Can anyone help me with ps2 mouse configuration on laptop?
[02:38] <brenner> nalioth: of course i don't want to send him to jail...i was just curious
[02:38] <ulisse> ompaul, shoot the line
[02:38] <ompaul> ulisse, sudo shutdown -F now
[02:38] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: i'll use this time to explore gnome (i'm an ion user) :)
[02:38] <nalioth> brenner: send the new users to those links, they are java j2re and sdk and w32codecs for hoary and breezy
[02:38] <ompaul> ulisse, when you reboot the box it will check alll partitions
[02:38] <renjii> how do i use ./configure switches while using apt-get?
[02:38] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, make sure to read the upgradenotes , /topic
[02:39] <nalioth> renjii: you dont
[02:39] <renjii> do'h
[02:39] <ccooke> Qantourisc: what's ion like?
[02:39] <ompaul> ulisse, and remove the other os :-)
[02:39] <brenner> nalioth: will do
[02:39] <ccooke> always meant to try it
[02:39] <ompaul> ulisse, stops them problems
[02:39] <Qantourisc> ccooke: as in: when using it, or as in "how does it look" ?
[02:39] <renjii> so, thta means, i'll have to donwload source and compile if i want custom options?
[02:39] <ccooke> Qantourisc: when using it.
[02:39] <nalioth> renjii: correct
[02:40] <concept10> deFrysk, have you done the update yet?  if so, any problems?
[02:40] <ulisse> ompaul, I wish remove the oter US (un-operating system...), but I can't, she need it for work...
[02:40] <nalioth> renjii: ubotu has msg'd you
[02:40] <renjii> nalioth - thanks
[02:40] <ulisse> ompaul, but I've made a nice job, she loves Ubuntu and hates "the other"...
[02:40] <deFrysk> concept10, no probs here ,ugraded a few weeks ago
[02:40] <Qantourisc> ccooke: it's a wm that splits your screen into pieces, and in each piece you can put a window, you can recut screen areas and merge: http://qantourisc.afraid.org:8080/About%20Me/ion3.png
[02:41] <ompaul> ulisse, so teach her to use shootdown - R now
[02:41] <brownie17> i upgraded from limewire to limewire pro, and now when i click x it shutsdown limewire, instead of minimizing it to system stray
[02:41] <IcE-bOy> where can i find the .config file that use ubuntu kernel ?
[02:41] <ccooke> Qantourisc: yeah, I've seen it. Just never got around to trying it.
[02:41] <ccooke> Qantourisc: anyway. it's off-topic.
[02:41] <ulisse> ompaul, I'v done it right now! ;)
[02:41] <ompaul> ulisse, sudo shootdown -R now   <reboot
[02:41] <deFrysk> brownie17, check the settings of limewire
[02:41] <Qantourisc> ccooke: :p
[02:41] <brownie17> ulisse, what is shootdown -r?
[02:41] <ccooke> Qantourisc: I should know better than to indluge my curiosity all the time...
[02:42] <ulisse> brownie17, I think a typo...
[02:42] <nalioth> brownie17: it's a misspelling
[02:42] <brownie17> deFrysk, are you familiar with it? there doesn't seem to be a setting
[02:42] <deFrysk> shutdown -r now is reboot
[02:42] <ompaul> brownie17, -r actuall reboot
[02:42] <brownie17> ulisse, nalioth ok. just trying to learn something
[02:42] <ompaul> -R was wrong
[02:42] <nalioth> brownie17: not all of us have english as our first language
[02:42] <brownie17> runlevel 6!
[02:42] <Qantourisc> ccooke: :p
[02:42] <brownie17> nalioth, sorry!
[02:43] <brownie17> nalioth, my apologies kind sir, and i know how frsutrating it is to try to converse wiht someone whom you cannot fully understan,d or be understood by
[02:44] <sviestainis> hi, what does "can't read super block" mean?
[02:44] <Qantourisc> sviestainis: if i'm correct: your in trouble :p let's hope i'm rong
[02:44] <ompaul> sviestainis, it means you need to run fsck -y
[02:45] <shekhar> can someone help me with bluetooth manager?
[02:45] <brownie17> ompaul, the ah "distro-upgrade" option (is that correct), will that upgrade me to breezy?
[02:46] <nxv__> which packages are the x headers / dev files?
[02:46] <nalioth> brownie17: with an edited sources.list, yes
[02:46] <nalioth> nxv__: xlibs-dev and xlibs-static-dev
[02:46] <nxv__> nalioth: thx
[02:46] <spayne> shekhar: what's up with gnome-bluetooth?
[02:47] <brownie17> nalioth, hm.. will that give me the option in grub boot, like whne updating kernel, between booting hoary and breezy?
[02:47] <ompaul> sviestainis, a file system has several superblocks, they are lists of the locations of what inodes are in use (addresses of files) and the one that your machine wants to use is not in sync with the others so it wants to check the filesystem, this is done with the fsck command
[02:47] <nalioth_zZz> brownie17: no. it will upgrade your hoary
[02:47] <Qantourisc> hmm i thouged running this in X wasn't a good idea
[02:47] <ompaul> !tell brownie17 about breezy
[02:48] <brownie17> nalioth_zZz, is there a way to dual boot without partitioning?
[02:48] <FhaeTon> Ok so Ubuntuisthemostpopular
[02:48] <Mose`> zdarowa
[02:48] <brownie17> ompaul, danke-schern
[02:48] <FhaeTon> ja
[02:48] <FhaeTon> ja
[02:48] <ompaul> brownie17, don't complain if it falls over, it is development, so it is not finished
[02:48] <FhaeTon> vas ist los ?
[02:49] <ompaul> !de
[02:49] <ubotu> de is, like, totally, #ubuntu-de bitte.
[02:49] <funkyHat> how easy is it to get ubuntu connected to AOL internet?
[02:49] <FhaeTon> wo ist de banhoff?
[02:49] <brownie17> ompaul, im not upgrading yet. um... one more. when i click links in X-Chat, it goes to konqueror. but firefox is my default. how do i make X-Chat open firefox for links?
[02:49] <brenner> brownie17: set firefox as default broswer i would think
[02:49] <brownie17> brenner, it is allready ^^^
[02:50] <concept10> brownie17, are you using kde?
[02:50] <sviestainis> well, thanks for explaining. That message "can't read superblock" was displayed, when i tried to mount my usb flash storage. does it mean, that my usb device is screwed?
[02:50] <brownie17> concept10, i have kubuntu-desktop installed, but i am using gnome currently
[02:50] <chrissturm> does anyone here know if its possible to install windows xp on hda6 (i need a windows partition and i wonder if i can just shrink hda5 and install windows on the free space)
[02:51] <concept10> brownie17, goto System > Prefs > Preffered Applications
[02:51] <brownie17> FhaeTon, /join #ubuntu-de
[02:51] <deFrysk> chrissturm, yes but your grub will be gone
[02:51] <FhaeTon> ok
[02:51] <FhaeTon> where is it
[02:51] <brownie17> concept10, it says firefox
[02:51] <chrissturm> deFrysk, but i can just boot with a ubuntu boot cd and resore it, right?
[02:52] <concept10> brownie17, right-clink on the link, and then use run new mozilla firefox
[02:52] <brownie17> FhaeTon, what do you mean where is it. just type "/join #ubuntu-de" for german support
[02:52] <FhaeTon> where network
[02:53] <brenner> FhaeTon: irc.freenode.net
[02:53] <deFrysk> chrissturm, in the wiki its explained somewhere ,I dont use windows so not sure howto fix it
[02:53] <hutgyrr> ive just used tar c DISK1 >archive1.bz2 to make the DISK1 folder into an archive from the command line but its the exact same size, its hasn't compressed it at all
[02:53] <brownie17> concept10, that works :) but it takes longer :(
[02:53] <brenner> FhaeTon: just type the command brownie17 gave you directly into here
[02:53] <FhaeTon> ok
[02:53] <IcE-bOy> where can i find the .config file that use ubuntu kernel ?
[02:54] <brenner> brownie17: you doing ctrl-clicks?
[02:54] <hutgyrr> is there another flag i need to specify to compress it?
[02:54] <atha> hutgyrr: use j flag with tar to use bzip2 compression
[02:54] <hutgyrr> what would be the best compression to use. I want to be able to open it on macs and pcs also
[02:55] <brownie17> brenner, no
[02:55] <joel__> what media players does ubuntu support?
[02:55] <FhaeTon> I know german but I don't want to speak it man
[02:55] <brenner> brownie17: try it on a link and see what happens
[02:55] <brenner> joel__: /msg ubotu player
[02:55] <brownie17> what is NFS?
[02:55] <brenner> *players
[02:55] <brownie17> brenner, nothing
[02:56] <joel__> can I find that on the ubuntu page?
[02:56] <brenner> joel__: that's not even a definitive list
[02:56] <ompaul> brownie17,  network file system
[02:56] <joel__> what?
[02:56] <brenner> joel__: find what?
[02:56] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: guess what :D update failed :D
[02:56] <joel__> the obotu player
[02:56] <ompaul> brownie17,  some people say 'no fine* security'
[02:56] <andril> hello all again :)
[02:56] <brenner> joel__: no, nvm...here:
[02:56] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, how ?
[02:56] <brenner> !players
[02:56] <ubotu> well, players is Audio/MP3 Players: amaroK, Beep-media-player, JuK, Rhythmbox, XMMS ; Video players: Totem, Xine, Mplayer, VLC
[02:57] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: i think because X was still running
[02:57] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, not possible
[02:57] <deFrysk> qa do apt-get -f install
[02:57] <deFrysk> Qantourisc,
[02:57] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: i'll tell you when it fails again
[02:57] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, do apt-get -f install
[02:57] <eruin> should /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/  contain anything?
[02:58] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: i'm already foing apt-get dist-upgrade -f
[02:58] <andril> and update on any time tble on when Breezy will be final?
[02:58] <brenner> eruin: _i've_ got stuff in there....
[02:58] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, if it fails again do apt-get -f install and then again dist-upgrade
[02:58] <brownie17> andril, oct 13th
[02:58] <deFrysk> not friday
[02:58] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: ok i will :p
[02:58] <hutgyrr> whats the difference between a tar and a tarball
[02:58] <eruin> brenner, yeah, I notice most others do too, but not here for some obscure reason
[02:59] <andril> brownie17: thanks I can't wait
[02:59] <brenner> gettin' close :)
[02:59] <brownie17> hutgyrr, none, they are one and the same. i think
[02:59] <andril> brenner: thanks
[02:59] <eruin> and I'm thinking that has something to do with my laptop powering down due to overheat all the time ;P
[02:59] <brownie17> andril, same
[02:59] <brenner> andril: not sure what for...but you're welcome. :D
[03:01] <JustinHH> a program dowsn't respond. how can i close it?
[03:01] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: i yust hope after i done all this, i can get sounds and vga to work
[03:01] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, make sure to apt-get update if it fails again couse the repos are updated regurarly
[03:01] <JustinHH> (without restarting the cmputer :P)
[03:02] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: doing that as we speak
[03:02] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, ;)
[03:02] <stelvit> Hello to all
[03:03] <JustinHH> !pingme
[03:03] <ubotu> JustinHH: Are you on ritalin?
[03:03] <gcm> hello
[03:03] <deFrysk> hello
[03:04] <Jack_B> hello
[03:04] <brenner> JustinHH: easy way is to use system monitor
[03:04] <JustinHH> a program dowsn't respond. how can i terminate the program without restarting the pc?
[03:04] <gcm> do you speak freanch
[03:04] <deFrysk> JustinHH, killall <prog>
[03:04] <ompaul> !fr
[03:04] <ubotu> fr is, like, Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[03:04] <syntaxx> i just wanna know if in debian sarge have a autoconfiguration for networking just like ubuntu?
[03:05] <ompaul> syntaxman, that would be a debian question
[03:05] <deFrysk> syntaxx, I guess it does it even better
[03:05] <deFrysk> in ubuntu that is ;p
[03:05] <syntaxx> ompaul: i join debian and yet they said i might get a better question here in ubuntu =/
[03:06] <ompaul> syntaxx guess you gota do both then :)
[03:06] <brenner> syntaxx: why not try out a livecd?
[03:06] <ompaul> syntaxx, i take it you are talking about the gui for it
[03:07] <Qantourisc> i'm going to game some :p
[03:07] <Qantourisc> i need it atm :)
[03:07] <Qantourisc> o and thank you all
[03:07] <icewt> anyone happen to know where could i get a version of skype that works with hoary?
[03:08] <kemik> skype.com
[03:08] <icewt> kemik, the latest version doesn't work
[03:08] <fester> geee.. upgrded, anew kernel auto install and now nvidia and wireless modules no ;lonhger work
[03:08] <icewt> kemik, unmet dependencies. older version used to work
[03:08] <fester> brilliant !
[03:08] <ompaul> icewt, if you want I can dcc it to you
[03:09] <kemik> icewt:  ah :/ cant apt-get the deps' ?
[03:09] <icewt> ompaul, that would be nice
[03:09] <syntaxx> ompaul: but do u think there is?
[03:09] <killian> hmm i'm back
[03:09] <killian> i'm qantourisc
[03:09] <icewt> kemik, well, i don't know where to get the old ones
[03:09] <ompaul> syntaxx in debian no, I think you have tools but they are not as good by a long chalk
[03:09] <killian> even apt-install fails
[03:10] <syntaxx> ompaul: ic thanks
[03:10] <joel__> How do I install xmms 1.2.1?
[03:10] <icewt> kemik, ah, i understood you wrong. well, i think the latest version wuold work with breezy, but hoary seems to have too old version of libqt3c102-mt
[03:11] <ompaul> icewt, it is 6.52megs in size :(
[03:11] <bzimage> killian, Qantourisc: why twice?
[03:11] <kemik> icewt:  ok.. hmm. well try to get an old one and use that until breezy is stable
[03:11] <bzimage> (user)
[03:11] <Jack_B> ubuntu is lagging like shit, is there a way i can kill some unused processes
[03:11] <killian> bzimage: duno, windows habbit i quess :D
[03:11] <icewt> kemik, that's what i'm trying to do, ompaul is just sending me the old one :)
[03:11] <fester> open "top" and look at the porocesses running
[03:11] <deFrysk> joel__, sudo apt-get install xmms
[03:12] <kemik> icewt:   skype_1.2.0.11-1_i386.deb i got that one , can publish it on www
[03:12] <d2dchat> what is the package name for Gnome Terminal?
[03:12] <kemik> icewt:  oh, ok.. nvm then =)
[03:12] <fester> Jack_B - open a console and type top
[03:12] <deFrysk> d2dchat, gnome-terminal
[03:12] <ompaul> joel__, Installed: 1.2.10+cvs20050209-2ubuntu2 its in main
[03:12] <d2dchat> deFrysk, thanks:)
[03:12] <ompaul> joel__, so use synaptic or apt-get to get it
[03:12] <joel__> defrysk__, thanks it installed
[03:12] <Jack_B> ok fester
[03:13] <killian> dependecie failes
[03:13] <d2dchat> why is Terminal not appearing in my Applications menu when it says it is installed
[03:13] <killian> deFrysk: depenecy issues
[03:13] <d2dchat> Terminal disappeared when i went from hoary to breezy and back to hoary
[03:13] <kemik> d2dchat:  applications->system tools -> terminal ? noe?
[03:13] <d2dchat> nope, no terminal no root terminal
[03:13] <deFrysk> killian, post your sources.list in pastebin
[03:13] <kemik> ouch
[03:13] <Jack_B> holy crap i only got 128mb of ram and 100 mb is used already and i only got xchat and terminal open
[03:13] <d2dchat> yea, it hurts:(
[03:13] <d2dchat> i can use "console" though
[03:14] <d2dchat> or
[03:14] <d2dchat> Konsole rather
[03:14] <fester> Hi all, Ubuntu auto updated itself and installed a new kernel. Now my wireless and nvidia don't work with new kernel. How do i get the modules "yupgraded" to the newer version ?
[03:14] <killian> deFrysk: that file is now changed to the standard breezy
[03:14] <kemik> Jack_B:  what cpu you got? 128mb of ram isnt much
[03:14] <brenner> Jack_B: you running gnome?
[03:14] <killian> deFrysk: maybe i need to resync ?
[03:14] <bzimage> Jack_B, first of all.. linux reserves memory infront
[03:14] <deFrysk> killian, I want to see it anyway ;p
[03:14] <kemik> Jack_B:  i'd recommend XFCE or IceWM for such an undersized system
[03:14] <killian> deFrysk: :D
[03:14] <Jack_B> im running gnome
[03:15] <Jack_B> i got a p3 733
[03:15] <fester> yJack_B - IGNORE memory usred in TOP - it includes cache memory
[03:15] <killian> deFrysk: pritty hard trough console ....
[03:15] <kemik> Jack_B:  256mb of memory would be a good upgrade (and 256mb is dirtcheap... )
[03:15] <Jack_B> yeh kemik
[03:15] <brenner> Jack_B: yeah....the two recommended DEs might be better for your specs
[03:15] <killian> deFrysk: i'll msg youy
[03:15] <deFrysk> oke
[03:16] <fester> How do I ugrade my modules to a newer version kernel ?
[03:16] <d2dchat> heh i found terminal
[03:16] <JustinHH> bv
[03:16] <d2dchat> it was under accessories?
[03:16] <d2dchat> lol
[03:16] <JustinHH> :D
[03:16] <d2dchat> but no root terminal
[03:16] <Dintuit> hello
[03:16] <kemik> d2dchat:  well "sudo -i" in a terminal and there you go
[03:16] <brenner> heh...OT: does RAM help with HDD access?  this lappy only has a 4200RPM...bootup and other things seem quite slow....i'm not sure if it's the HDD or my measly 256Mb of RAM that's the problem...
[03:16] <killian> deFrysk: if evrything went right, i should have messaged you my sources.list
[03:17] <d2dchat> kemik, ty:)
[03:17] <kemik> brenner:  well. yes and no
[03:17] <fester> 256mb of RAM ? lol ...
[03:17] <roman> no
[03:17] <kemik> brenner:  it will allow your system to load less often from HDD, but it wont speed up HDD access
[03:17] <Dintuit> glxgears does'nt run on my ubuntu
[03:17] <brownie17> i have 700mg of ram :)
[03:17] <brenner> fester: i know...i'm upgrading this weekend though. :)
[03:17] <Dintuit> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:17] <Dintuit> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[03:17] <funkyHat> are the admin and lib sections on the ubuntu installer CD?
[03:17] <brenner> kemik: but general application loading etc. whould be faster?
[03:18] <JustinHH> is a dvb card refer also to a tv-tuner?
[03:18] <kemik> brenner:  well, not while it access the HD, but once it's loaded in mem it wont have to load as often
[03:18] <bob832> fester:  kind of new to the linux but from what i have read, i think you have to reinstall the modules . . .someone please correct me if i am wrong
[03:18] <hutgyrr> is there anyway to see a progress status on the making of a tarball from the command line?
[03:18] <kemik> (load as often from HDD, and that will be a nice speedup... )
[03:18] <brenner> kemik: righto..thanks for the info
[03:18] <deFrysk> killian, optherwise put it in #flood
[03:19] <brenner> hutgyrr: use verbose mode
[03:19] <Dintuit> i seems i have all the libs i can think of and i have no broken dependencies: "i think" so? this is in breezy buy the way nvidia 420 GO
[03:19] <fester> thx bob832. I guessed Ubuntu would have done this for me. Seems pretty dumb t9o install a new kernel, makje it default and then have no wireless or X connection
[03:19] <kemik> fester:  im not really sure, but maybe 'insmod module' would load it
[03:19] <icewt> ompaul, ah, it finished. thank you very much :)
[03:19] <bob832> true
[03:20] <kemik> fester:  i'd try "insmod"
[03:20] <fester> I suppose i could force it but... bugger it.. I'll stay at the old kernel.. it nworks..
[03:20] <Dintuit> laptops rule! :0
[03:20] <fester> Ok, I'll reboot to old kernel and retry.. think it would be automatic... grumble...
[03:21] <kemik> fester:  why not try insmod ? it will load modules into the current kernel
[03:21] <kemik> or modprobe
[03:22] <fester> OK, I'll try them.. I know the nvidia module name :-) but not sure of the wireless card. there are 4 I think. Probelm is.. will I need to do this every time I boot ?
[03:22] <ompaul> Icewt np
[03:22] <bob832> fester:  sorry, couldn't tell ya
[03:23] <infinito_away> does anyone know a client for msn messenger with video/audio support?
[03:23] <killian> infinito: wine :p (half kidding)
[03:23] <kemik> infinito:  i heard "amsn" might have it.. but im not sure
[03:23] <infinito> kemik: i tried ams cvs version and doesnt work ok
[03:23] <ompaul> icewt, you will need a kdelib to make that work (thanks to skype building it the way they did)
[03:24] <Mpmc> when is the new version of ubuntu out?
[03:24] <ompaul> 13 oct
[03:24] <icewt> ompaul, yes. i had that version, but then i removed it, and after a while wanted to install skype back, but the latest version wouldn't install anymore.
[03:24] <ompaul> ahh
[03:25] <JustinHH> i can play mp3-files with music player but i can't play them with xmms! why?
[03:25] <Mpmc> you need the plugub for it
[03:25] <avalost> JustinHH, have the correct driver selected?
[03:25] <JustinHH> i can play mp3-files with music player(rhytmboxn't play them with xmms! why?
[03:25] <Mpmc> plgin
[03:25] <smott> after i edit grub's menu.lst, am i expected to run any command to update grub or will it just work?
[03:25] <Mpmc> JustinHH: You need to download a plugin
[03:26] <JustinHH> aham
[03:26] <cyberixae> Is there graphwiz for Ubuntu?
[03:26] <Mpmc> !info ubuntuguide
[03:26] <deFrysk> !tell JustinHH about mp3
[03:26] <cyberixae> Or maybe a better alternative?
[03:27] <JustinHH> i know about the restricted formats
[03:27] <Mpmc> JustinHH: I play MP3's fine on XMMS
[03:27] <slept> Is anyone familliar with openoffice, I need to know how to do a "linear fit" for some Points in a Diagramm, but I can't find it. I know this is of topic but I'm in a hurry to get the protocol done. So please msg me if you know how to do that
[03:27] <JustinHH> but how can i cat a plugin for xmms
[03:28] <JustinHH> it doesnt apear in the plugin area from xmms
[03:28] <deFrysk> xmms-mad JustinHH
[03:28] <deFrysk> intall that
[03:29] <bob832> last night, i successfully changed the volumn control up by the clock to change the PCM volume, however, my volume keys on the keyboard still change master - is there a way to change the keys too?
[03:29] <JustinHH> ok
[03:31] <JustinHH> i have installed xmms-mad but xmms still stops responding
[03:31] <deFrysk> JustinHH, restart xmms
[03:31] <killian> how do i resolve depencie errors ?
[03:31] <boxedman> Hi all
[03:31] <atha> JustinHH: have you tried different output plugins?
[03:31] <deFrysk> killian, by having the proper repositories
[03:31] <boxedman> I was wondering, can ubuntu be installed from the liveCD?
[03:31] <JustinHH> no
[03:32] <boxedman> ah, ok
[03:32] <deFrysk> JustinHH, what are you trying to play ?
[03:32] <JustinHH> its working
[03:32] <mahangu`afk> how can i kill a dir and all the file sin it?
[03:32] <killian> deFrysk: well they are right remember ...
[03:32] <JustinHH> it was the output plugin
[03:32] <deFrysk> JustinHH, thats what I thought ;)
[03:32] <deFrysk> esd for gnome
[03:32] <atha> I think I had the same problem earlier - xmms just froze
[03:33] <deFrysk> arts for kde
[03:33] <deFrysk> killian, prove it and put them in #flood
[03:33] <deFrysk> killian, still havent seen them
[03:34] <killian> deFrysk: ow
[03:34] <killian> deFrysk: aa you mean, i see nothing, as in no text :D
[03:34] <deFrysk> killian, exactly
[03:34] <deFrysk> killian, I want your sources.list ;p
[03:34] <JustinHH> is there any programs and drivers for my tv-tuner?
[03:35] <killian> deFrysk: i thouged you meant, i see no problems :D
[03:35] <fredforfaen> !breezy
[03:35] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[03:35] <deFrysk> killian, I see nothing :D
[03:35] <killian> deFrysk: i did /exec cat /etc/apt/sources.list, what did i do rogn ?
[03:35] <deFrysk> killian, nothing, but I dont see them
[03:36] <deFrysk> killian, go to #flood and I'll show you mine to compare ok ?
[03:36] <killian> deFrysk: id rather learn how to use exec :D
[03:37] <deFrysk> killian, practice in #flood
[03:37] <JustinHH> is there any programs and drivers avaialble for my tv-tuner?
[03:37] <killian> deFrysk: :D
[03:37] <mahangu`afk> how can i kill a dir and all the file sin it?
[03:37] <avalost> hmm, anyone know of e17 packages for breezy?
[03:37] <kemik> mahangu`afk:  rm -rf dir
[03:37] <kemik> mahangu`afk:  rm -rf DIRNAME
[03:37] <JustinHH> deFrysk, :  is there any programs and drivers avaialble for my tv-tuner?
[03:37] <fredforfaen> if i upgrade to breezu via apt will it install a new kernel?
[03:38] <fredforfaen> *breezy
[03:38] <cat> fredforfaen: well if you want
[03:38] <atha> yes
[03:38] <DarkOrigin> When I'm doing 'fakeroot make-jpkg jdk-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin' (official file downloaded from java.sun.com) in order to create a .deb package for it it loads some plugins, but then tells me that none of those match what I'm trying to do.. Can someone tell me how I can install java SDK 1.5 then?
[03:38] <Balu> hello everyone
[03:38] <JustinHH> hey balu
[03:38] <fredforfaen> what about my nvidia driver , will that be affected?
[03:38] <DarkOrigin> Should I just copy it somewhere and change the PATH variable ?
[03:38] <kemik> !tell DarkOrigin about java
[03:38] <cat> fredforfaen: not really
[03:38] <cat> DarkOrigin: did u do chmod a+x bin.?
[03:39] <DarkOrigin> ye
[03:39] <fredforfaen> cat so x should work with nvidia even after upgrade then.....
[03:39] <DarkOrigin> thanks kemik, I'll test the link.
[03:39] <kemik> DarkOrigin:  see pm
[03:39] <cat> yes it should fredforfaen
[03:39] <Balu> I'm fiddling around with my cd-burner for a while now, but cdrecord won't recognize it as a burner :(
[03:39] <cat> fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.bin
[03:39] <DarkOrigin> pm? From the bot, or from you? Because I can only see one from the bot..
[03:39] <cat> did u do that DarkOrigin ?
[03:39] <Balu> It lists "Supported modes: " (empty)
[03:39] <Balu> any idea?
[03:39] <fredforfaen> what about the kernel i want a new kernel but then i have to install the nvidia driver one more time , dont i?
[03:39] <DarkOrigin> cat: no, it's the jdk , not the jre.
[03:39] <avalost> !e17
[03:39] <ubotu> avalost: I don't know, could you explain it?
[03:40] <cat> bla
[03:40] <joel__> how do I get mpg files to play? Is there a certain program I need?
[03:40] <avalost> ubotu, e17 is the next generation enlightenment www.enlightenment.org or www.rasterman.com
[03:40] <ubotu> okay, avalost
[03:40] <DarkOrigin> 'fakeroot make-jpkg jdk-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin' <-- that was what I did
[03:40] <DarkOrigin> after setting it a+x of course.
[03:40] <avalost> !e17
[03:40] <ubotu> from memory, e17 is the next generation enlightenment http://www.enlightenment.org or http://www.rasterman.com
[03:40] <cat> ok and u got an error?
[03:40] <Pickle_Weasel> !tell joel__  about w32codecs
[03:40] <slept> joel__, codecs and a player
[03:40] <Balu> !cdrecord
[03:40] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, Balu
[03:41] <joel__> Can you tell me where to get those codecs?
[03:41] <chrissturm> DarkOrigin, you dont need to set it +x if you use make-jpkg
[03:41] <kemik> DarkOrigin:  the one from bot
[03:41] <DarkOrigin> cat: I got the error that there were no matching plugins found.
[03:41] <JustinHH>  !tell hustinhh about w32codecs
[03:41] <cat> oh
[03:41] <JustinHH>  !tell justinhh about w32codecs
[03:41] <fredforfaen> can i do the breezy upgrade from X (Gnome)?
[03:41] <DarkOrigin> okay, kemik that link is still connecting ... I think the server doesn't respond.
[03:41] <chrissturm> DarkOrigin, your java-package deb is too old. using hoary?
[03:42] <kemik> DarkOrigin:  well if it's the jdk, all you need todo is ./binfile
[03:42] <DarkOrigin> using colony-5
[03:42] <kemik> DarkOrigin:  and set your path to the directory were javac is located
[03:42] <ubuntu> Hello everybody :)
[03:42] <DarkOrigin> kemik: and install it somewhere and change PATH variable - right?
[03:42] <chrissturm> DarkOrigin, i tried that 2 days ago and it worked
[03:42] <cat> hello ubuntu
[03:42] <DarkOrigin> Yea, where is the file that holds the global PATH then?
[03:42] <JustinHH> does tv-tuners work under linux?
[03:42] <DarkOrigin> hmm, not working for me chrissturm ...
[03:42] <cat> JustinHH: yes why
[03:42] <kemik> DarkOrigin:  i've done it in my ~/.bashrc
[03:42] <chrissturm> make-jpkg <path_to_bin_file>
[03:42] <mahangu`afk> can i get ubuntu to work across two monitors?
[03:43] <JustinHH> i want to use my tv-tuner
[03:43] <DarkOrigin> kemik: I'd like it for all users, not only the one I'm on at the moment.
[03:43] <avalost> ubotu, forget e17
[03:43] <ubotu> avalost: i forgot e17
[03:43] <kemik> DarkOrigin:   PATH=/usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun/bin/:"${PATH}"   <- add that line to .bashrc
[03:43] <DarkOrigin> So I ned the global..
[03:43] <JustinHH> cat, : and i don't know what i must get to get it working
[03:43] <kemik> DarkOrigin:  ok.. well i think its in /etc/ somewhere :)
[03:43] <ubuntu> I don't know
[03:43] <avalost> ubotu, e17 is the next generation enlightenment www.enlightenment.org or www.rasterman.com, www.get-e.org or www.edevelop.org
[03:43] <ubotu> avalost: okay
[03:43] <DarkOrigin> chrissturm: yea, that's what I did as well (in the same dir as the .bin tho), but it tells me it needs a plugin.
[03:43] <ccooke> mahangu`afk: yes. How easy it is really depends on your graphics setup
[03:43] <ccooke> mahangu`afk: I'm doing it now - it's very easy with the latest ATI drivers
[03:43] <DarkOrigin> kemik: yea... but where ;) I'm originally from gentoo, and I'm pretty confused :-)
[03:44] <XHK> How can i set up adsl connection in ubuntu? I installed RP-PPPoE, like ubuntunguide told me to do, everything went well, but if i wanna connect, it will timeout.
[03:44] <JustinHH> cat, : and i don't know what i must do to get the tv-tuner  working
[03:44] <ccooke> JustinHH: tv tuners? My home TV is running through mythtv right now under ubuntu. And I can't recommend mythtv enough
[03:44] <kemik> DarkOrigin:  not sure.. if you put it in /etc/skel/.bashrc all users you create from now wil hae it in their path
[03:45] <XHK> If someone knows, plz tell how can i set up asdl connection.
[03:45] <JustinHH> ccooke, why?
[03:45] <mahangu`afk> ccooke, where do i set it up?
[03:45] <JustinHH> ccooke, isn't it working well?
[03:45] <DarkOrigin> yea, that's just not good enough.. I'd like it to be in the global - not in the bashrc of every user from now on.. I might as well do it right from the beginning, instead of doing small hacks every time I find something I dislike a bit.
[03:45] <secureboot> anyone know of a good guide on how to dual boot mac os x and ubuntu?
[03:45] <ccooke> JustinHH: it works beuatifully.
[03:45] <ccooke> JustinHH: really great system
[03:46] <ccooke> mahangu`afk: what's your graphics setup, please?
[03:46] <DarkOrigin> chrissturm: are you sure you did it with the JDK of 1.5 ?
[03:46] <XHK> If someone knows, plz tell how can i set up asdl connection.
[03:46] <chrissturm> 1.5.0.5
[03:46] <DarkOrigin> weird.. what version of fakeroot do you have ?
[03:46] <chrissturm> DarkOrigin, i can send you the deb i created
[03:46] <DarkOrigin> I would absolutely adore you if you did.
[03:47] <bobbobbob> how do I install w32 codecs
[03:47] <Robinho_Peixoto> bobbobbob:  www.ubuntuguide.org
[03:47] <XHK> How can i set up adsl connection in ubuntu? I installed RP-PPPoE, like ubuntunguide told me to do, everything went well, but if i wanna connect, it will timeout.
[03:47] <Balu> !tell bobbobbob about w32codecs
[03:47] <JustinHH>  !tell justinhh .deb
[03:47] <mahangu`afk> ccooke, where can i found out?
[03:47] <killian> back at ubunutu :)
[03:47] <killian> did all that :D
[03:48] <chrissturm> DarkOrigin, look here: http://rafb.net/paste/results/RK5Clb56.html
[03:48] <deFrysk> !tell Robinho_Peixoto about ubuntuguide
[03:48] <JustinHH>  !tell justinhh deb
[03:48] <XHK> If someone knows, plz tell how can i set up asdl connection.
[03:48] <DarkOrigin> thanks chrissturm
[03:48] <killian> deFrysk: ok thanks i'm on track again :p
[03:48] <deFrysk> !ubuntuguide
[03:48] <ubotu> well, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[03:48] <killian> deFrysk: best course is a crash course :p
[03:48] <JustinHH> can somebody explain about deb files?
[03:48] <XHK> If someone knows, plz tell how can i set up adsl connection.
[03:48] <chrissturm> DarkOrigin, its just the output of make-jpkg on my system
[03:48] <deFrysk> killian, for sure :D
[03:48] <killian> deFrysk: you learn a lot on those
[03:48] <chrissturm> what version of java-package do you have?
[03:49] <wrabbit01> Can somebody help me out... I was hoping to follow these instructions.... http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories but they are for hoary.  I'm using breezy.  Does it matter or is there a way to convert to hoary?
[03:49] <chrissturm> DarkOrigin, what version of java-package do you have?
[03:49] <DarkOrigin> chrissturm: Okay.. Let me show you mine ;-)
[03:49] <DarkOrigin> don't know, the one from this morning..
[03:49] <ccooke> mahangu`afk: Do you know what your video card is?
[03:49] <XHK> How can i set up adsl connection in ubuntu? I installed RP-PPPoE, like ubuntunguide told me to do, everything went well, but if i wanna connect, it will timeout.
[03:49] <deFrysk> !tell wrabbit01 about ubuntuguide
[03:49] <DarkOrigin> I'm using the preview of ubuntu (colony-5)
[03:49] <atha> XHK: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[03:49] <XHK> ty
[03:50] <wrabbit01> thanks deFrysk
[03:50] <kemik> DarkOrigin:  if you find where the globalsetting is, please feel free to PM me the info :)
[03:50] <mahangu`afk> *find out
[03:50] <killian> deFrysk: ok seems to be installed now :p
[03:50] <deFrysk> killian, cool ;p
[03:50] <killian> deFrysk: back to the orignial problem :p no sound and video :D
[03:50] <wrabbit01> !faq
[03:50] <ubotu> it has been said that faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/
[03:50] <deFrysk> killian, complete upgrade is done ?
[03:50] <killian> deFrysk: seems to me yes
[03:50] <DarkOrigin> http://rafb.net/paste/results/xue0Rk65.html -- that's my output.
[03:51] <killian> deFrysk: no errors so
[03:51] <deFrysk> killian, then reboot
[03:51] <DarkOrigin> kemik: I will..
[03:51] <killian> deFrysk: o wait , fergot one
[03:51] <killian> deFrysk: the after update thing
[03:51] <deFrysk> killian, ooh ;p
[03:51] <DarkOrigin> wait a second..
[03:51] <ccooke> mahangu`afk: what is your computer? Is it new? Old?
[03:52] <deFrysk> killian, is it an on board soundcard ?
[03:52] <chrissturm> DarkOrigin, i have version 0.26 of java-package installed
[03:52] <DarkOrigin> http://rafb.net/paste/results/PhRskR56.html -- chrissturm that's what my package tells me..
[03:52] <DarkOrigin> hmm, weird.. I wonder why my doesn't update ..
[03:52] <killian> deFrysk: yes :p
[03:53] <deFrysk> killian, dist-upgrade is done now correct ?
[03:53] <bobbobbob> I am trying to install realplayer but when I type in the command line it just says could not find package.  This is true for everything I try to install and the ubuntu guide does not tell me where i can find the packages.
[03:53] <killian> deFrysk: i won't be rebooting i'll be going to runlevel 0 and back up (kernel is already running)
[03:53] <killian> deFrysk: yes
[03:54] <deFrysk> killian, first open alsamixer
[03:54] <deFrysk> does it work ?
[03:54] <richard> hi @ all!
[03:54] <cat> richard: hi
[03:54] <deFrysk> <-not all
[03:54] <MachineScrew> hibernation works yay
[03:54] <killian> deFrysk: nope, he doesn't find a soundcard, but i'm familiar with resolving these kinds of errors (gentoo), question will be how do i add hardware modules without downloading the kernel-sources
[03:55] <bobbobbob> how the fuck do I install realplayer or any other player that supports mpg files for that matter
[03:55] <deFrysk> killian, modprobe <module>
[03:55] <killian> deFrysk: going to go to runlevel 0 and back now first
[03:55] <deFrysk> ok
[03:55] <killian> deFrysk if i still remember how  :D
[03:55] <deFrysk> lol
[03:55] <cat> bobbobbob: apt-get install realplayer
[03:55] <MachineScrew> get the horay-backports-staging and get gstreamer-plugins-multiverse
[03:56] <bobbobbob> cat: I tried that, it says it cannot find package realplayer
[03:56] <MachineScrew> also apt-get install mplayer
[03:56] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: oeps :D
[03:57] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: runlevel 0 = shutdown :p
[03:57] <kemik> bobbobbob:  you have to enable the universe/multiverse repositories
[03:57] <deFrysk> hey Qantourisc
[03:57] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: o well :p
[03:57] <deFrysk> lol
[03:57] <kemik> !tell bobbobbob about repositories
[03:57] <bobbobbob> kemik: and how exactly do I do that?
[03:57] <MachineScrew> bobbobbobbob: get the horay-backports-staging and get gstreamer-plugins-multiverse
[03:57] <kemik> MachineScrew:  not everyone thinks backports should be suggested
[03:57] <cantrel29> anyone tell me how I can stop mysql?
[03:57] <MachineScrew> bobbobbobbob: get the horay-extras-staging
[03:58] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, still no sound ?
[03:58] <bob832> i just changed my resolution to 1680x1050 and on the right side of my screen, there is a section of black lines - the monitor is an LCD screen, how can i get rid of the lines?
[03:58] <MachineScrew> I sugest what works
[03:58] <MachineScrew> they work
[03:58] <cantrel29> I assume that mysql runs under initd
[03:58] <kemik> backports recently crashed alot of users firefox
[03:58] <ccooke> indeed.
[03:59] <deFrysk> backb0rks
[03:59] <kemik> oh.. did he get upset ?
[03:59] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: my paranio dad has a password evrywhere .... so for each reboot i need his password ....
[03:59] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, you want me to give you his pwd ?
[03:59] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, lemme hack
[03:59] <kemik> Qantourisc:  tell him you've found the pr0n, and there's no need to use passwords anylonger
[03:59] <deFrysk> ;p
[04:00] <Qantourisc> kemik: LOL
[04:00] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: its a lock on the harddrive :p not really hackable :p
[04:00] <n00bster> helow, my first time on irc, how can i get the full channel list?
[04:00] <kemik> n00bster:  /list
[04:00] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, would you also please check is the onboard sound is enables an p&p is off in the bios (making sure)
[04:01] <n00bster> wher do i type this?
[04:01] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: should be :D
[04:01] <_jason> n00bster:  anywhere
[04:01] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, should yes , knowing is better
[04:01] <n00bster> ok, tank you
[04:01] <_jason> n00bster:  it will show up in the first window you have "Ubuntu Servers"
[04:01] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: i can seethat wit hlspci
[04:02] <n00bster> ok, ty. :)
[04:02] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, ok
[04:02] <dpro\> ahh, nice got ubuntu running nice and sweet, but howcome when i try installing w32codecs it says that the package doesnt exist? i have added more sources
[04:03] <stjepan> hello
[04:03] <stjepan> where is ubuntu's kernel config?
[04:03] <n00bster> well, a sidebar hase opend, but there is no content in ti, what shuld i do?
[04:03] <ccooke> stjepan: /boot/config-kernelname
[04:04] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: its disabled oright, or it's the unknown device
[04:04] <stjepan> ccooke: tnx
[04:04] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: but i want to focus on the va
[04:04] <ccooke> for instance, my running kernel (from breezy) has its config in /boot/config-2.6.12-9-686
[04:05] <n00bster> abiut channels:  a sidebar hase opend, but there is no content in ti, what shuld i do?
[04:05] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: vesa, it's not a perfect solution :D
[04:05] <n00bster> about*
[04:05] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, what vid-card ?
[04:06] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: no matter it works now :p new kernel did the trick :D
[04:06] <deFrysk> :D
[04:06] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, breezy rules
[04:06] <deFrysk> ;p
[04:06] <flankk> Anyone know of a password manager for Gnome, something like kwallet?
[04:07] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: hehe ;D
[04:07] <mahangu`afk> ccooke, it's a thinkpad r50e
[04:07] <blekos> hi ppl :)
[04:07] <JustinHH> the image on tvtime is black&white. there is also no soun :( (the sound cable is from the tv-tuner is conected to the pc over aux)
[04:07] <flankk> ^^
[04:07] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, anything k i dont like exept kernel and a few other things of course
[04:07] <ccooke> mahangu`afk: okay. Give me a moment, I'll see if I Can find the spec.
[04:08] <ThaTsThEWay> hello @ all
[04:08] <blekos> hi
[04:08] <flankk> deFrysk, how about a gtk+ version, rather than just bashing K*..
[04:08] <ThaTsThEWay> i'm new here
[04:08] <cat> we all are
[04:08] <ccooke> mahangu`afk: ah, right. Intel graphics. I've never had one of those, so I can't really help you
[04:09] <blekos>  well, I want to start firestarter during boot, I have added the command line of firestarter to add programs, unfortunatelly, I get the message that i do not have enough privilleges.
[04:09] <mgh0^> has anyone had any sucees installing KDE on breezy?
[04:09] <deFrysk> flankk, sorry was just kidding around
[04:09] <ccooke> mahangu`afk: Try google.
[04:09] <Riddell> mgh0^: yes
[04:09] <blekos> anyone knows how can i bypass that?
[04:09] <blekos> yes
[04:09] <blekos> me
[04:09] <logan001101> who
[04:09] <blekos> i'ge gote both KDE & GNOME
[04:09] <mgh0^> Riddell, any problems?
[04:09] <Riddell> mgh0^: none, it's a work of perfection
[04:09] <mgh0^> you too blekos ?
[04:09] <blekos> not really
[04:09] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: resolution is rong i'm afraid
[04:10] <blekos> almost
[04:10] <mgh0^> marvellous, thanks
[04:10] <blekos> the main application is ok
[04:10] <n00bster> i cant fing the ubuntu bugzilla channel, can you help me & type it's full name?
[04:10] <blekos> the only thing doestn't work is the combo for changing languages...
[04:10] <blekos> had the same with mandriva...
[04:10] <blekos> part from no probs
[04:10] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, if everything is ok exept resolution , run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:11] <blekos> suggest u install it, that way u can use applications from both gnome & kde
[04:11] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, run the defaults but set the defaults for resolution when you get there
[04:11] <flankk> deFrysk, 'I hate' proceeded by 'kde' or 'gnome' is simply flamebait.  I'm looking for a stable project that does the same, or similar, to kwallet in Gnome.  Or at least a project that has bundled some scripts to manage a password database.
[04:11] <blekos> whichever suits u best :)
[04:11] <deFrysk> set = schange
[04:11] <deFrysk> flankk, I am not going into this any further
[04:12] <n00bster> i cant fing the ubuntu bugzilla channel, can you help me & type it's full name?
[04:12] <helpme> hy
[04:12] <blekos> anyone had prob with the update manager?
[04:12] <n00bster> find*
[04:12] <flankk> deFrysk, you didn't go into anything..
[04:12] <helpme> the image on tvtime is black&white. there is also no soun :( (the sound cable is from the tv-tuner is conected to the pc over aux)
[04:14] <hou5ton> can someone tell me what's the easiest way to know what to type in a command line to open an application?
[04:14] <helpme> hello
[04:14] <helpme> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:14] <ubotu> helpme: What?
[04:14] <helpme> the image on tvtime is black&white. there is also no soun :( (the sound cable is from the tv-tuner is conected to the pc over aux)
[04:14] <hou5ton> ooffice used to open open office, but doesn't with the newest version?
[04:15] <^majik^> what's the package name in synaptic again, that installs I think, most of the development stuff for gcc?
[04:15] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: he that did the trick
[04:15] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: cool :D
[04:15] <flankk> helpme, I'd refer you to Google, but you probably need to learn English first.
[04:15] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, good :)
[04:16] <bob832> hou5ton:  try ooffice2
[04:16] <jake> hi
[04:16] <chrissturm> how can i make ubuntu enable dma on my dvd rom by default?
[04:16] <jake> Is this ubuntu support irc?
[04:16] <bzimage> chrissturm, hdparm
[04:16] <chrissturm> bzimage, i know how to set it with hdparm#
[04:16] <bzimage> jake, yes
[04:16] <chrissturm> but i think theres an hdparm config file where i can persist that change
[04:17] <jake> I have a question, not a problem really, but I installed ubuntu linux on 2 different machines, other is laptop and another is a desktop computer.
[04:17] <hou5ton> bob832:  thanks, that did it ... but I was also wondering if there was a way to locate that info, and also to change it.
[04:17] <jake> I wonder why these installations seem different.
[04:17] <bzimage> jake, define seems
[04:18] <jake> I mean, when I log in @ gdm and my desktop opens, my laptop has applet for ximian and applet describing network use.
[04:18] <jake> Ofcourse there's also power applet in my laptop, that's obvious..
[04:19] <jake> This isn't a problem, but I just wonder why my desktop doesn't have ximian or network activity applets..
[04:19] <bzimage> jake, i'm not sure on that one
[04:19] <bzimage> i guess it's because it detected the "laptop" part
[04:20] <bob832> hou5ton:  check the /usr/bin folder
[04:20] <jake> I have ximian icons in the middle of firefox and help..
[04:20] <egoplastiek> hi
[04:20] <chrissturm> jake, what do you mean by "ximian applet"?
[04:20] <egoplastiek> HELP! :)
[04:20] <ccooke> chrissturm: he means evolution
[04:20] <bzimage> !tell egoplastiek about ask
[04:20] <jake> chrissturm, uuups.. I meant evolution :)
[04:20] <bob832> hou5ton:  you migh have to be root to rename the files
[04:20] <egoplastiek> i installed and de-installed metacity
[04:21] <egoplastiek> and now the top of all windows are gone
[04:21] <egoplastiek> so i can't move them anymore
[04:21] <egoplastiek> alt-tab also doesn't work anymore
[04:21] <jake> okay. Well, that didn't clear out but it really doesn't matter that much :)
[04:21] <hou5ton> bob832:  got it ... thanks
[04:21] <egoplastiek> flank, is that specific enough?
[04:21] <bob832> hou5ton:  you're welcome, glad to help
[04:22] <chrissturm> jake: maybe ubuntu selected other defaults for the laptop. but you can still install any program you want, and make the two desktops identical
[04:22] <egoplastiek> when i log in with x, only the xterm appears.
[04:22] <egoplastiek> i can start the gnome-panel manually
[04:22] <egoplastiek> but how can i get it back to what it was?
[04:23] <chrissturm> egoplastiek, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:23] <mgh0^> :D installed and working KDE
[04:24] <egoplastiek> well, bzimag
[04:24] <deFrysk> bzimage, u just gave the anser yourself
[04:24] <egoplastiek> i installed metacity for fun
[04:24] <egoplastiek> and i wanted to uninstall it
[04:24] <bzimage> deFrysk, how?
[04:24] <egoplastiek> because i wanted my original gnome back
[04:24] <deFrysk> bzimage, they dont know where its for
[04:24] <egoplastiek> without the expose-like stuff
[04:25] <deFrysk> thats why they remove it
[04:25] <phanter> hello. I am rteying to mount an external HDD. standard it mounts it that only the root can write files to it. How can I make it to be writable for all users
[04:25] <chrissturm> egoplastiek, what exactly did you install?
[04:25] <bzimage> deFrysk, well.. i allways learned to get my hand off things i don't know
[04:25] <bzimage> *ask then do*
[04:25] <egoplastiek> chrissturm, metacity
[04:25] <egoplastiek> for the expose effect
[04:25] <kemik> bzimage:  naah. do, then ask
[04:25] <kemik> bzimage:  trial and error
[04:25] <deFrysk> bzimage, windowsusers are "different"
[04:25] <egoplastiek> i'll brb chrissturm
[04:26] <egoplastiek> i'm a windows user :s
[04:26] <bzimage> deFrysk, i guess so
[04:26] <bzimage> :)
[04:26] <thesaltydog> in a livecd, when the screensaver asks for a password... which is the password?
[04:27] <bzimage> kemik, not on a "production" desktop/workstation/server
[04:27] <bzimage> ;)
[04:27] <ompaul> enter and see if that be it
[04:27] <deFrysk> thesaltydog, <enter>
[04:27] <egoplastiek> it worked. thanks to whoever gave me the answer
[04:27] <thesaltydog> try
[04:27] <bzimage> :D
[04:28] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: its an i810 audio controller
[04:28] <phanter> how do i mount a harddisk that users can mount it and hav read-write acces?
[04:28] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, what module does that need ?
[04:28] <thesaltydog> bzimage, not so dumb...
[04:28] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: no clue i"ll be trying to find out now
[04:29] <thesaltydog> anyway it doesn't unlock either with enter
[04:29] <bzimage> lol
[04:29] <kemik> bzimage:  ooh, no ofcourse not.. only on "play-computers" :)
[04:29] <bzimage> :P
[04:29] <bzimage> playtendo...
[04:29] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: hmm new kernel installed
[04:29] <kemik> phanter:  depends on the FS... (ntfs cant be written to)
[04:29] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: reboot :po
[04:29] <deFrysk> k
[04:30] <kemik> (well, not easily anyway)
[04:30] <bzimage> kemik, well actually it can be written to...
[04:30] <bzimage> but not wise to do
[04:30] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: but i'm first going to check ofr any other updtes :D
[04:30] <kemik> bzimage:  i know
[04:30] <ubuntu> u all suck!
[04:30] <kemik> but the easy-newbie answer is just "no it cant" :)
[04:30] <bzimage> kemik, true
[04:30] <bzimage> :)
[04:30] <zander> hi; does ubuntu ship with /etc/lsb-release by default?
[04:31] <xwings> hi guyes
[04:31] <xwings> i got a problem with breezy
[04:31] <bzimage> zander, ?
[04:31] <phanter> kemik, it is a ext3 FS
[04:31] <xwings> is tehre a stack guard thingy in breezy ?
[04:32] <bzimage> phanter, then it's simple enough..
[04:32] <bzimage> add a line into your /etc/fstab for it
[04:32] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Intel&card=Soundtrack+Audio+DSP+24.&chip=440MX%2C+i810%2C+i810%2C+i810E%2C+i820%2C+i820&module=intel8x0
[04:32] <bzimage> or mount it manually..
[04:33] <phanter> bzimage, i have a line in my fstab: /dev/sda1 /media/backup ext3 rw,users 0 0
[04:33] <zander> bzimage: i need a reliable way to tell debian gnu/linux and ubuntu apart; /etc/lsb-release allows this, but isn't necessarily installed on debian gnu/linux (it's part of the 'lsb-release' package); if the file was guaranteed (or at least higly likely) to be present on ubunto systems by default, then that would help
[04:33] <phanter> bzimage, but that does not give me the r/w access
[04:34] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: added some "standard" extra packages: 140 mb :p
[04:35] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, you werent finished yet ?
[04:35] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: some spellings checkers and wine :p
[04:35] <JustinHH> what packages must i install in order to access ntfs and fat32 partitions
[04:35] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: as in adding extra packages i.e. blender
[04:35] <bzimage> JustinHH, none
[04:35] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, ah :)
[04:36] <JustinHH> none?
[04:36] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, got the alsa link ?
[04:36] <bzimage> none
[04:36] <bzimage> only the right configuration / command
[04:36] <bzimage> :)
[04:36] <Carla> I'm new to ubuntu and need help?
[04:36] <JustinHH> ohhh
[04:36] <bzimage> !tell carla about ask
[04:36] <deFrysk> Carla, ask away :)
[04:36] <JustinHH> sorry
[04:36] <fami> hi
[04:36] <fami> Cannot find glib development libraries, aborting. (Install libglib-dev?)
[04:37] <joel__> I keep trying to install real player and i always get this message : E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[04:37] <joel__> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it
[04:37] <Carla> my wlan is active but firefox times out finding google
[04:37] <JustinHH> i cant access the partitions mecause they are read and write protected
[04:37] <deFrysk> joel__, shut down synaptic and try again
[04:37] <JustinHH> how can i cancel that
[04:37] <bzimage> joel__, close synaptic
[04:37] <fami> off
[04:37] <JustinHH> smth with -rw ?
[04:38] <joel__> bzimage__, I did but i got this now Package realplayer is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:38] <joel__> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[04:38] <joel__> is only available from another source
[04:38] <joel__> E: Package realplayer has no installation candidate
[04:38] <bzimage> JustinHH, ?
[04:38] <bzimage> !tell joel__ about repos
[04:38] <bzimage> did you do this?
[04:38] <JustinHH> bzimage: in /dev/ hda3 apears with an red x
[04:39] <Carla> I don't want to be rude so what is the format to ask a question
[04:39] <dabaR> he needs multiverse.
[04:39] <JustinHH> it can be accessed only by root
[04:39] <joel__> bzimage: I have repositories all checked
[04:39] <JustinHH> and on ubuntu there is no grafical interface for root
[04:39] <Pyt3r> hi
[04:39] <Pyt3r> hy
[04:39] <bzimage> JustinHH, right.. it's disabled by default
[04:40] <JustinHH> yes
[04:40] <blekos> if i remove an application, are all relavant packages removed?
[04:40] <JustinHH> so tell me what i shoul do to enable root or to be ablea to access the ntfs an fat32 partition
[04:40] <bzimage> even root login is impossible by default: password isn't given
[04:40] <ccooke> JustinHH: Breezy or Hoary?
[04:40] <joel__> why cant I install realplayer if i have all repos checked???
[04:41] <bzimage> joel__, it's in the repos
[04:41] <bzimage> somewhere...
[04:41] <blekos> libs etc
[04:41] <blekos> ?
[04:41] <radone> Hi folks - I am trying to run wu-ftp server - and I need to share data under username "kn" and password "kn" - It is not problem to login to my user account but it is unable to login in account "kn"
[04:41] <dabaR> joel__: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:41] <radone> could anyone help?
[04:41] <joel__> dabaR: I did not get what you just said.
[04:41] <JustinHH> ccooke, : what's  <<eezy or Hoary?>>?
[04:41] <dabaR> radone: did you create a kn user name?
[04:42] <bzimage> wu-ftpd *eek*
[04:42] <Carla> Why would firefox time out if my wlan is active?
[04:42] <Carla> Can anyone help me?
[04:42] <radone> dabaR: yes, directory /home/kn too
[04:42] <ccooke> JustinHH: what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[04:42] <dabaR> joel__: cat /etc/apt/sources.list in a terminal. then paste the output to that web site I told you above.
[04:42] <dereks_> if i don't have any pata hard drives, can i install to a sata, or do i need to install to pata?
[04:42] <joel__> dabar: ok
[04:42] <JustinHH> 5.04
[04:42] <bzimage> Carla, do you mean.. not fetching pages?
[04:42] <dabaR> radone: well, a password is impossible to be kn, since it has to be like, 6 chars, or something, there is a security constraint.
[04:42] <Carla> bzimage:  I type in www.google.com and it times out trying to load
[04:43] <ccooke> JustinHH: Okay. you'll need to edit /etc/fstab. Try: sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[04:43] <Carla> bzimage:  some pages load fine
[04:43] <dabaR> Carla: open a terminal, and type in ping www.google.com
[04:43] <bzimage> hmm...
[04:43] <bigfoot1> how do i get to run command "qmake"? I get error message: bash: qmake: command not found
[04:43] <Carla> I can ping just fine
[04:43] <dabaR> you can ping the site you can not access?
[04:43] <Carla> yes
[04:43] <ccooke> JustinHH: do you know what the partition names are?
[04:43] <dabaR> did you clear your cache in the browser?
[04:43] <bzimage> bigfoot1, why you need that?
[04:43] <Carla> let me try
[04:44] <bigfoot1> bzimage, for zoto uploadr.
[04:44] <Ashen> yo... I wanna use an indexed file system as my shared partition between win and ubuntu instead of vfat...
[04:44] <dabaR> I wont let you, but, ya.
[04:44] <kemik> ccooke:  "sudo fdisk -l"
[04:44] <bigfoot1> bzimage, to install a program
[04:44] <dereks_> anyone have any luck installing to a sata drive/
[04:44] <Ashen> how well do things run of ext in windows?
[04:44] <JustinHH> ccooke, :yes
[04:44] <punkrockmcduck> i upgraded ubuntu, and now there are two kernels and no windows.
[04:44] <bigfoot1> i hope i don't get punkrockmcduck's problem when I upgrade to breezy
[04:44] <othernoob> punkrockmcduck: and that's bad?
[04:44] <Ashen> (for people who have used ext2fsd)
[04:44] <ccooke> kemik: I'm not asking you ;-)
[04:44] <bigfoot1> i'm scared now
[04:44] <ccooke> JustinHH: Okay. Have you ever edited fstab before?
[04:45] <Carla> cleared; typed in url again and it says that it is connecting
[04:45] <deFrysk> punkrockmcduck, exellent upgrade :D
[04:45] <bigfoot1> anybody with experience with qmake? I need it.
[04:45] <Qantourisc> dkpg-configure alsa ?
[04:45] <JustinHH> but it apears just the swap ext3 floppy and cdrom
[04:45] <Qantourisc> does that exict ?
[04:45] <punkrockmcduck> yeah, thanks.
[04:45] <JustinHH> no
[04:45] <Versed2> I have one stupid question, can one switch from kde to gnome without shutting down?
[04:45] <bzimage> punkrockmcduck, you need to add an entry for grub.. (windows)
[04:45] <dabaR> joel__: open a terminal, and sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list then, paste in there, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 ibnstead of qwhat you ahve. then reload in synaptic, and you will have realplayer
[04:45] <JustinHH> :(
[04:45] <Carla> still connnecting
[04:45] <ccooke> Qantourisc: dpkg-reconfigure.
[04:45] <ccooke> JustinHH: that's okay
[04:45] <finley> does nfs has an irc channel?
[04:45] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, honestly never has this soundissue so I honestly am not sure
[04:45] <Ashen> also, does any utility exist to convert a filesystem from vfat to ext?
[04:45] <ccooke> JustinHH: You'll need to add one line for each parition you want to mount
[04:45] <punkrockmcduck> i know that much
[04:45] <bigfoot1> Versed, Bad news: stupid questions are not allowed. Good news: your question is.
[04:45] <bzimage> Ashen, not that i know of
[04:45] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, you have to ask someon else now :)
[04:46] <ccooke> JustinHH: what were the partitions ?
[04:46] <punkrockmcduck> but I don't know how to add a new entry for grub, so what should I read?
[04:46] <JustinHH> i i think i got it
[04:46] <dabaR> Carla: do you have a firewall on the computer?
[04:46] <Ashen> hrmmm... damn
[04:46] <Versed2> And yes I have both desktops installed.
[04:46] <JustinHH> wait
[04:46] <Carla> dabaR: there is one in the modem
[04:46] <bzimage> Ashen, i guess formatting is the only way
[04:46] <dabaR> Carla: off course, how about the computer?
[04:46] <bzimage> (to get ext fs)
[04:46] <Carla> sorry
[04:46] <dabaR> no need.
[04:46] <Carla> not unless ubuntu has something set that I don't know
[04:47] <ron_> where do i go to make copy of a cd in warty 4.10?
[04:47] <dabaR> well, you will need to look into that. I am overdue for school.
[04:47] <Ashen> bzimage: looks like I'll need another hdd to backup onto
[04:47] <Ashen> :)
[04:47] <dabaR> Something about listing the rules iptables has set up, carla.
[04:47] <bzimage> Ashen, yes
[04:47] <JustinHH> i actualy don`t know the partitions exactly. there are 4 or 5. i know that one of them is a fat32 and the other is ntfs. but i don't know witch one
[04:47] <Ashen> has anyone used Ext2fsd?
[04:48] <Carla> can I just make changes to the iptables in a terminal?
[04:48] <joel__> dabaR: real player is supposed to be under multimedia, right? If so, then I dont have it
[04:48] <bzimage> ron_, what exactly do you mean?
[04:48] <JustinHH> can i see it from linux without loging in to windows?
[04:48] <kemik> JustinHH:  "sudo fdsik -l"
[04:48] <finley> i have one machine with IPs _only_ in /etc/exports, but those get translated to hostnames in /var/lib/nfs/etab.  Why?  How do I prevent it?
[04:48] <kemik> *fdisk
[04:48] <ron_> i just installed 4.10 and i need to burn a cd
[04:48] <Qantourisc> where are my sound modules ?
[04:48] <kemik> ron_:  4.10 !? warty?
[04:48] <ccooke> JustinHH: the fdisk command kemik told you will let you know what each partition is
[04:48] <ron_> yes
[04:49] <bzimage> ron_, install a buring app
[04:49] <Qantourisc>  /lib/modules/$uname/kernel/ and then ?
[04:49] <bzimage> ron_, better install 5.04 or 5.10 preview
[04:49] <ron_> ok thanks i do thaty
[04:49] <bzimage> 4.10 is old
[04:49] <ron_> yes  true
[04:49] <JustinHH> sudo: fdsik: command not found
[04:49] <bzimage> 1 one
[04:49] <ron_> thanks bzi
[04:50] <ccooke> JustinHH: sudo fdisk -l
[04:50] <kemik> JustinHH:  fdisk
[04:50] <ccooke> JustinHH: we'll need the Device column
[04:50] <bzimage> ron.. and then install a burning app (like k3b or something.. via synaptic)
[04:50] <ron_> where do i get burn application
[04:50] <ccooke> JustinHH: For instance, here's the windows XP entry from mine:
[04:50] <ccooke> JustinHH: /dev/sda2   *         913        4560    29302560    7  HPFS/NTFS
[04:50] <Versed2> OK, I will re-phrase, Can I switch from KDE to Gnome and vice versa without shutting down and restarting ?
[04:50] <JustinHH> it works now
[04:51] <ccooke> JustinHH: The bit we'd need is '/dev/sda2'
[04:51] <joel__> dammit
[04:51] <ccooke> JustinHH: What are the device names, then?
[04:51] <kemik> ccooke:  not sure what youre doing exactly.. but the winmac_fstab will mount all partitons automagicalla
[04:51] <kemik> !ntfs
[04:51] <ubotu> ntfs is probably the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.
[04:51] <bzimage> ccooke, ehm.. where are you mounting sda2 too?
[04:51] <bzimage> to
[04:51] <bzimage> shouldn't you use a normal mountpoint
[04:51] <JustinHH> well one of them is /dev/hda1   *           1        1020     8193118+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[04:52] <ccooke> bzimage: that was the output of fdisk.
[04:52] <bzimage> srro... fdisk..
[04:52] <joel__> fucking piece of shit
[04:52] <Ashen> is there a reiser filesystem driver for windows?
[04:52] <bzimage> ccooke, so i read...
[04:52] <bzimage> :P
[04:52] <ccooke> JustinHH: Okay, let's do that.
[04:52] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: found a relative link : http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1312.html :D
[04:52] <kemik> Ashen:  ask google ... =)
[04:52] <ccooke> JustinHH: Where would you like to mount it? Somewhere under /media is probably a good idea
[04:52] <ccooke> JustinHH: /media/Windows ?
[04:52] <JustinHH> ok
[04:52] <JustinHH> yes
[04:52] <Ashen> kemik: google wast very helpful :p
[04:52] <ccooke> JustinHH: okay, then
[04:52] <bzimage> Ashen, google is my best friend..
[04:53] <Ashen> *wasn't
[04:53] <ccooke> JustinHH: here's what you do:
[04:53] <ccooke> JustinHH: sudo mkdir -p /media/Windows
[04:53] <ccooke> JustinHH: sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[04:53] <nix101> where is the default location for grub?
[04:53] <ccooke> JustinHH: At the end of the file, add this line:
[04:53] <bzimage> nix101, the mbr?
[04:53] <bzimage> :P
[04:53] <highvoltage> gksudo gedit /etc/fstab might work better?
[04:53] <Ashen> damnit... how come windows has no good filesystems! *Cries*
[04:53] <highvoltage> Ashen: they are stuck in the 80's
[04:53] <ccooke> JustinHH: /dev/hda1     /media/Windows    ntfs    defaults    0 0
[04:54] <ccooke> JustinHH: Got that?
[04:54] <JustinHH> yes
[04:54] <JustinHH> i got it
[04:54] <bzimage> mount -a
[04:54] <JustinHH> but can you tell me what 0 0 at the end means?
[04:54] <nix101> im replacing ubuntu with slackware which uses lilo and i just wanna make sure i wont have problems
[04:54] <ccooke> JustinHH: it's to do with backups. Not really used these days.
[04:54] <bzimage> nix101, i use lilo on ubuntu
[04:54] <bzimage> no probs
[04:54] <ccooke> JustinHH: once you're done, double and triple check your fstab is correct
[04:54] <bzimage> :)
[04:54] <JustinHH> ccooke ?
[04:55] <blekos> y r replacing ubuntu?
[04:55] <JustinHH> ok
[04:55] <Ashen> y would you want to replace ubuntu?
[04:55] <Ashen> y would anyone want to replace ubuntu?
[04:55] <Ashen> ^_^
[04:55] <kemik> Ashen:  then i thin there is no way to mount reiserFS in windos.. check out the official resierFS homepage
[04:55] <nix101> i want to try them all lol
[04:55] <Centrix> Hi all
[04:55] <ccooke> JustinHH: the 0 0 tells the system when to back up that partition, and how. It's not actually used by any software now, though.
[04:55] <blekos> lol
[04:55] <JustinHH> ccooke than saving and.... then must i type something for refreshing?
[04:55] <ccooke> JustinHH: mount -av
[04:55] <blekos> bcarefull what r u wishing to find
[04:55] <JustinHH> ok
[04:55] <ccooke> JustinHH: (mount, all, and tell you what it does)
[04:55] <Centrix> Who is good at pcmcia wlan cards ? :)
[04:55] <JustinHH> ok
[04:56] <ccooke> JustinHH: it should say it's mounted something?
[04:56] <bzimage> nix101, well.. if you run lilo, the grub mbr will be overwritten by lilo
[04:56] <Centrix> I have some problems with it...
[04:56] <Qantourisc> Centrix: no-one such a person does not exict :D
[04:56] <bzimage> (and it works also the other way arround)
[04:56] <JustinHH> let's see if it really works. :P
[04:56] <butcherbird> nix101, its slackware...there will likely be "problems" =)
[04:56] <ccooke> JustinHH: :-)
[04:56] <nix101> do i install lilo in superblock or mbr?
[04:56] <Centrix> hehe... sure thing Qantourisc
[04:56] <radone> dabaR: thanks for help. Now it my ftp connection work.
[04:56] <bzimage> nix101, well.. i use mbt
[04:56] <Centrix> I cant get it working...
[04:56] <bzimage> err
[04:56] <bzimage> mbt
[04:56] <bzimage> damn
[04:56] <bzimage> mbr
[04:56] <Ashen> hrmmm... you know what I feel like doing? installing the ext3 windows filesystem module into the windows installer, then installing windows onto a ext partition... I wonder if it'd work :p
[04:56] <JustinHH> ccooke, ;)
[04:57] <kemik> Ashen:  probably not :)
[04:57] <Ashen> :p
[04:57] <radone> Is it possible to deny user to log in via SHELL but keep possibility for login via FTP ?
[04:57] <ccooke> Ashen: ... try it! sounds evil and fun.
[04:57] <radone> is it even possible
[04:57] <Centrix> I installed badger and i can see the wlan card but cant configure my network with it
[04:57] <bzimage> Ashen, lol
[04:57] <blekos> can i have different wallpapers in gnome like in kde?
[04:58] <blekos> different wallpaper for each desktop
[04:58] <bzimage> radone, yes sure you can
[04:58] <othernoob> blekos: no, wallpapers are only for good windowing systems..
[04:58] <JustinHH> ccooke, : for fat32 i will type just fat32?
[04:58] <Centrix> only thing that is possible to configure is my modem ,,,
[04:58] <bob2> Centrix: "can see the wlan card" = ?
[04:58] <JustinHH> or Fat32
[04:58] <ccooke> JustinHH: vfat
[04:58] <JustinHH> does it matter?
[04:58] <blekos> lol
[04:58] <ccooke> JustinHH: yes.
[04:58] <JustinHH> ok
[04:58] <blekos> and gnome isnt??
[04:58] <ccooke> JustinHH: did the ntfs one work?
[04:59] <radone> bzimage: Could you please point me how? :)
[05:00] <JustinHH> ccooke,  on /dev/hda2 and 3 it apeares W95 FAT32 (LBA)
[05:00] <JustinHH>  and W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[05:01] <blekos> does anybody know how i can add a program to startup which requires root previl. to start?
[05:01] <JustinHH> what dows lba mean?
[05:01] <ccooke> JustinHH: LBA is a method of accessing large disks.
[05:01] <JustinHH> it is no partioion made on the disk, i think
[05:01] <ccooke> JustinHH: doesn't matter now.
[05:01] <bluesceada> blekos: if it's not graphical use init scriptw
[05:01] <bluesceada> scripts..
[05:01] <blekos> i'm talking about firestarter
[05:01] <ccooke> JustinHH: You want the W95 FAT32 parititon (I presume /dev/hda2)
[05:02] <Qantourisc> okies
[05:02] <Qantourisc> this i odd :p
[05:02] <d2dchat> in the synaptic package manager firefox is there but it has no version number or description. How do i fix this??
[05:02] <Qantourisc> i modprobeded my pci driver
[05:02] <ccooke> JustinHH: /dev/hda3 is the extended partition, which just contains all the partitions with numbers greater than 4. It can't be mounted itself.
[05:02] <Qantourisc> but doesn't work
[05:02] <^majik^> what's the package name in synaptic again, that installs I think, most of the development stuff for gcc?
[05:03] <ccooke> d2dchat: the actual package for firefox is 'mozilla-firefox'
[05:03] <kemik> ^majik^:  build-essential
[05:03] <radone> Please, could  anyone help me how to disallow to login via SHELL, but keep ability to login via FTP ?
[05:03] <kemik> radone:  edit your ssh.conf
[05:03] <d2dchat> ccooke, thank you:)
[05:03] <ccooke> radone: ftp or sftp?
[05:03] <bluekey> whats the easiest way to edit the application menu for another user(to limit what users can access)
[05:03] <HaNazir> how do i change the root password?
[05:04] <kemik> radone:  /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[05:04] <ccooke> HaNazir: sudo passwd
[05:04] <JustinHH> ccooke, on mount -av appeared an error
[05:04] <JustinHH> (gedit:22237): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[05:04] <HaNazir> ccooke, thanx
[05:04] <JustinHH> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[05:04] <bob2> bluekey: that doesn't stop them accessing anything at all
[05:04] <d2dchat> what does this mean:
[05:04] <bob2> HaNazir: there is no root password to begin with
[05:04] <ccooke> JustinHH: that looks like a GUI error.
[05:04] <radone> ccooke: wu-ftp - so I guess ftp
[05:04] <ccooke> JustinHH: which *should* be nothing to do with mounting.
[05:04] <JustinHH> no
[05:04] <ccooke> radone: in that case, they don't need a shell to start it.
[05:05] <JustinHH> this appeared
[05:05] <JustinHH> before
[05:05] <JustinHH> when i opend that file to edit
[05:05] <ccooke> radone: sudo gedit /etc/passwd, and set their shell to /bin/false
[05:05] <bluekey> bob2 well im setting up a computer for people that drop in to use for web browsing and openoffice so i dont want anything else on the menu. none of these people would even know where to start apps if they went looking in nautilus
[05:05] <ccooke> the shell is the *last* item
[05:05] <bob2> bluekey: then smeg lets you edit it
[05:05] <mgh0^> how easy it is to install nvidia graphics card drivers on breezy?
[05:05] <bluekey> but does smeg edit it for all users for for the user that runs it?
[05:06] <radone> ccooke: thanks
[05:07] <^majik^> kemik: cool, thanks
[05:08] <bob2> mgh0^: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:08] <Qantourisc> arg these drivers don't reconnise the sound card
[05:08] <Qantourisc> btw how is wpa doing ?
[05:08] <bluekey> bob2: but does smeg edit the menu for all users or the user running it?
[05:08] <Skid> whats your (in general) favourite terminal ?
[05:08] <Skid> gnome-terminal annoys me with its partial app-based titles
[05:08] <zone17> Hi, how do I set cron to run every second hour? "* /2 * * * " was my idea, but doesn't seem to work.
[05:09] <radone> ccooke: Unfortunately after changing /bin/bash ---- to -->  /bin/false - I am not able to log in :(
[05:09] <Skid> radone: that's because your user's shell will be set to /bin/bash
[05:09] <bob2> Skid: xterm
[05:09] <Skid> ya, I generally use xterm, but was wonering what other people liked :)
[05:09] <joshg> howdy, all.
[05:10] <Skid> can't stand eterms crap fonts, but I like the trans options
[05:10] <JustinHH> ccooke,  you do not have the permission necessary to view the contents of "windows" (the folder we made)
[05:10] <joshg> anybody experienced in gstreamer-fu and alsa-fu?
[05:10] <Strog> aterm, rxvt
[05:10] <amorph> does anyone could help me with a sound-problem ? when i play something with xmms (alsa hw:0,4) it sounds perfect. but when i use another player the playback is interrupted every few seconds ...
[05:10] <ions> have todays X and Gnome updates broken Breezy or are they safe to install?
[05:10] <Skid> hm, aterm.. not used that before
[05:10] <radone> Skid: well, exists any way how to disallow to login via SHELL, but keep ability to login via FTP ?
[05:11] <Skid> radone: sure
[05:11] <Skid> use sshd_config
[05:11] <Skid> DenyUsers root user1 user2
[05:11] <radone> Skid: thanks, will try
[05:11] <Skid> then /etc/init.d/sshd restart
[05:11] <Skid> radone: /etc/ssh/sshd_config is the file
[05:11] <ccooke> JustinHH: Okay.
[05:11] <JustinHH> ccooke,  you do not have the permission necessary to view the contents of "windows" (the folder we made) it is read and write protected
[05:11] <ccooke> JustinHH: we need to give you permission there. That's easy enough
[05:11] <ccooke> JustinHH: just give me a minute.
[05:11] <JustinHH> ok
[05:11] <JustinHH> i can wait
[05:12] <ccooke> JustinHH: Okay, got it.
[05:12] <Skid> ooh, aterm looks nice
[05:12] <ccooke> JustinHH: sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[05:12] <ccooke> JustinHH: when you have it, locate the line that mounts /media/Windows
[05:12] <Strog> Skid: It's fairly light and has a lot of good options
[05:12] <ccooke> JustinHH: and change 'defaults' to 'uid=yourusername'
[05:12] <Strog> There's tabbed versions of it too
[05:12] <ccooke> JustinHH: okay?
[05:12] <Skid> yeah that's what I was looking at
[05:13] <JustinHH> yeap
[05:13] <ccooke> JustinHH: then, type:
[05:13] <ccooke> JustinHH: sudo umount /media/Windows
[05:13] <Skid> not used rxvt either
[05:13] <ccooke> JustinHH: sudo mount -av
[05:13] <Skid> but I can't really see any screenies ;p
[05:14] <ccooke> Then again... a terminal that interected with screen to automatically show tabs for it on request... *that* would be useful
[05:14] <Skid> screen(1) ?
[05:14] <Skid> you mean split screens, as per earlier?
[05:14] <JustinHH> og my good
[05:15] <ccooke> JustinHH: ?
[05:15] <JustinHH> the files of all partitions are displayed in the same folder
[05:15] <JustinHH> i can manage it
[05:15] <JustinHH> thank you anyway
[05:15] <JustinHH> ;)
[05:16] <JustinHH> i ahve learned a few commands
[05:16] <JustinHH> today
[05:16] <JustinHH> :D
[05:16] <fredforfaen> what backports repos am i supposed to use with breezy?
[05:16] <JustinHH> ccooke,  i have an other problem to configure
[05:17] <deFrysk> fredforfaen, backports of bleeding edge ?
[05:17] <deFrysk> fredforfaen, how would you do that ?
[05:17] <fredforfaen> nah dont have to be that , i have this ; deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main restricted universe multiverse , is there a nother for breezy?
[05:18] <deFrysk> fredforfaen, nope
[05:18] <fredforfaen> just use the same?
[05:18] <deFrysk> fredforfaen, dony use it at all
[05:19] <fredforfaen> what about software and stuff?
[05:19] <deFrysk> fredforfaen, check the wiki
[05:19] <bob2> fredforfaen: get rid of it
[05:19] <bob2> and use some common sense
[05:19] <wrabbit01> Thought I'd just drop in and express my love for this OS.
[05:19] <bob2> breezy isn't released yet
[05:19] <nalioth_zZz> fredforfaen: give breezy a chance to be completed before you ask the devs to start work on backports from dapper drake
[05:19] <bob2> ergo, no backports
[05:19] <wrabbit01> I love ubuntu.  Who's with me?
[05:19] <fredforfaen> what wiki ...point me in the right direction at least
[05:20] <bob2> fredforfaen: just get rid of any backport lines you might have in your sources.list
[05:20] <fredforfaen> bob2 ok.....what repos handles like xqf , azureus and so on then?
[05:21] <nalioth> fredforfaen: dont you have those already?
[05:22] <fredforfaen> sure...im thinking about updates when the time comes
[05:22] <fredforfaen> !repos
[05:22] <ubotu> repos is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[05:22] <bob2> fredforfaen: xqf is in ubuntu
[05:23] <fredforfaen> in the official repos bob2?
[05:23] <bob2> indeed
[05:23] <hramrach_> Hello
[05:24] <fredforfaen> bob2 cool , will java and such be there to?
[05:24] <bob2> fredforfaen: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[05:24] <hramrach_> Anybody got any idea how to print on a dot matrix printer in any sane resolution?
[05:24] <hramrach_> 60dpi is definitely not readable
[05:25] <hramrach_> And I beleive the lq100+ is 24pin so it should be able to do better
[05:25] <cyphase> lol, i can't believe that after the problems caused backports is still making mozilla-firefox a dummy package for firefox
[05:25] <fredforfaen> i changet the security updates to breezy to , is that ok?
[05:25] <fredforfaen> the wiki only says one line
[05:26] <nalioth> cafuego1: are you active and here?
[05:26] <hramrach_> But setting the resolution in gnome-cups-manager has no effect on output
[05:26] <deFrysk> cyphase, backports is evil
[05:26] <fredforfaen> i had to figure ut out by my self cus i wanna use norwegain repos
[05:26] <_pir> helo, How do I set to work with proxy, while working in terminal, I want do work/update in aptitue and dselect, Thanks.
[05:26] <ccooke> deFrysk: not evil. Just not worth risking.
[05:26] <finley> i have one machine with IPs _only_ in /etc/exports, but those get translated to hostnames in /var/lib/nfs/etab.  Why?  How do I prevent it?
[05:26] <deFrysk> ccooke, whene people come complaining here i'd say its evil
[05:27] <fredforfaen> anyone?
[05:27] <hramrach_> There used to be a gs rastering driver for these printers but I do not know the incantation to use it
[05:27] <_pir> helo, How do I set to work with proxy, while working in terminal, I want do work/update in aptitue and dselect, Thanks.
[05:27] <barosl> 
[05:28] <caps> hi
[05:28] <deFrysk> barosl, utf8 showcase ?
[05:28] <fredforfaen> can someone tell me if my sources.list is okay?
[05:28] <caps> How can I find the gnome-thumbnailer for nautilus
[05:28] <caps> ?
[05:28] <nalioth> fredforfaen: /msg ubotu sources
[05:28] <barosl> deFrysk, sorry, i made a mistake when i use /amsg
[05:29] <fredforfaen> nalioth im confused , tell me what to do....
[05:29] <fredforfaen> im osrry
[05:29] <fredforfaen> sorry*
[05:29] <deFrysk> barosl, ah :)
[05:30] <nalioth> fredforfaen: msg ubotu and say "sources". he will send you a sources.list URL to compare yours with
[05:30] <fredforfaen> ok thanx
[05:30] <caps> in fact, nautilus shows thumbnails for images, but not for video files....
[05:30] <deFrysk> caps, yes it does
[05:30] <fredforfaen> ubotu wont answer :(
[05:30] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, fredforfaen
[05:30] <caps> I have totem-xine installed, and totem plays video nicely
[05:31] <deFrysk> !tell fredforfaen about sources
[05:31] <deFrysk> fredforfaen, look again ;)
[05:32] <JustinHH> wich is the command do delete an empty directory from the terminal?
[05:32] <nalioth> JustinHH: rmdir
[05:32] <JustinHH> rdir?
[05:32] <_pir> any one knows How to set proxy for aptitude and dselect?
[05:32] <JustinHH> ok
[05:32] <JustinHH> thx
[05:32] <fredforfaen> deFrysk thanx , one more thingy , i switched to the breezy security updates to , is that ok?
[05:32] <valzaq> can anyone tell me the new repositories for breezy?
[05:32] <rikva> Hi, can I play an ogg file from the cli in a new ubuntu installation?
[05:33] <nalioth> fredforfaen: do you run breezy?
[05:33] <fredforfaen> im gonna update to breezy now nalioth :)
[05:33] <caps> i ok
[05:33] <fredforfaen> i have just switched the repos
[05:33] <caps> i solved my problem
[05:33] <valzaq> i want to do the update too but i dunno the new sources
[05:33] <bodisan> hello, I just installed azureus, but it sais that port 6881 is blocked. How can I leave it open? I'm using Breezy
[05:33] <benni> hallo
[05:34] <caps> jsut needed to remove the fail/ dir from ~/.thumbnails/
[05:34] <nalioth> valzaq: same sources as before. read the /topic here
[05:34] <hutgyrr> anybody burn a dvd recently here. how long did it take. It seems to take about 45mins here to burn about 3.5gb . Is this correct
[05:34] <benni> kan mir wer helfen ich habe ein problem ich wil windows emulieren und haben keinen plan wie ich das machen mus
[05:35] <bodisan> is there any firewall by default in ubuntu?
[05:35] <fredforfaen> nalioth im relly wondering cus im at the Y/n upgrade or not stage...is it noremal that apt wants to delete 40 pkg?
[05:35] <butcherbird> bodisan, no
[05:35] <bodisan> then why are all the ports blocked?
[05:35] <butcherbird> bodisan, using a router?
[05:35] <bodisan> yes
[05:35] <kemik> bodisan:  is there a firewall in the routeR?
[05:36] <valzaq> thanks nalioth
[05:36] <cyphase> kemik, it doesn't need a firewall
[05:36] <bob2> bodisan: er, that is almost certainly unrelated to ubuntu
[05:36] <cyphase> the router by itself will do it
[05:36] <bodisan> yes, it is, but linux should use uPnP to open ports
[05:36] <kemik> bodisan:  and besides, no services are listening by default in ubuntu
[05:36] <bob2> hahahaha
[05:36] <bob2> haha
[05:36] <bob2> hah
[05:36] <kemik> uhm
[05:37] <kemik> i think you've been misinformed bodisan
[05:37] <fredforfaen> pls anyone...apt is about to remove 40 pkgs if i upgrade , do i go ahead?
[05:37] <bob2> bodisan: no, seriously, if you want ports forwarded in, configure your router correctly
[05:37] <nalioth> bodisan: your ports ARE open, check your router at portforward.com
[05:37] <bob2> fredforfaen: er, do you want those 40 packages?
[05:37] <kemik> bodisan:  you need to put portforwards in the router
[05:37] <butcherbird> bodisan, prob just need to login to the router and set it up. or switch port to like 8080 or something ;)
[05:37] <spanglesontoast> does anyone know a good place to learn about programming in c?
[05:37] <spanglesontoast> a website not an irc channel..
[05:37] <kemik> spanglesontoast:  get a book
[05:37] <bodisan> the rooter is already set up, and works just fine on my other PC (Windows XP)
[05:37] <bob2> spanglesontoast: what other languages do you know?
[05:38] <bodisan> it should open ports automatically through uPnP
[05:38] <kemik> spanglesontoast:  if youre serious about programming, you should get a decent book and not follow tutorials
[05:38] <snorks> we experimented with that on school today. I nmap'ed my buddy, (he's using win xp sp2 with firewall OFF) and he showed up. I run a default ubuntu install (by default i mean i have not installed any firewall) and he couldn't nmap me
[05:38] <bob2> bodisan: if you want it to forward thigns to your ubuntu machine, configure it to do so
[05:38] <bob2> bodisan: that's not how the world works, sorry
[05:38] <kemik> bodisan:  no it shouldnt
[05:38] <spanglesontoast> i tried reading a book
[05:38] <RiverRat> Is there any chance I could get someone to paste their /etc/inittab for me to peak at?
[05:38] <spanglesontoast> it just doesn't work for me
[05:38] <bob2> snorks: sure hew could, you just don't have anything listening, by default
[05:38] <fredforfaen> bob2 dont think so , though kdelibs4 is about to get removed and i need to use k3b :(
[05:38] <bob2> fredforfaen: so don't let apt do that
[05:38] <kemik> spanglesontoast:  well, you read a book and perform small tasks at the same time
[05:38] <snorks> bob2: I ssh'ed home to my computer at home (which would make 22 open), still nothing
[05:38] <kemik> spanglesontoast:  maybe attend a class on your local uni. ?
[05:39] <bodisan> ok.... so I'll manually open port 6881 for forwarding, hope it works
[05:39] <fredforfaen> bob2 but i want to upgrade to breezy , isnt this the only way?
[05:39] <butcherbird> spanglesontoast, maybe look for like a "CBT" or other training thing to get started
[05:39] <nalioth> fredforfaen: it'll all be ok in about 10 days
[05:39] <bob2> snorks: someone was using nmap incorrectly, then; or you have source-address rules
[05:39] <bob2> fredforfaen: ?
[05:39] <bob2> fredforfaen: no
[05:39] <bob2> fredforfaen: just wait
[05:39] <kemik> spanglesontoast:  but if its your first language.. learn a OO lang. to start with...
[05:39] <spanglesontoast> 00 language?
[05:39] <kemik> object oriented
[05:40] <snorks> bob2: no rules. they used nmap with same flags between XP comps, and they all showed some netbios ports open.
[05:40] <fredforfaen> ok...ill just wait and not upgrade yet then ......
[05:40] <bodisan> Another question... can I write on ntfs? (it might be a stupid question, but I'm the newbie of the newbies) :D
[05:40] <bob2> spanglesontoast: what other programming languages do you know?
[05:40] <spanglesontoast> oh...
[05:40] <kemik> and i think maybe you could take this in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:40] <bob2> bodisan: no
[05:40] <spanglesontoast> well it's not it's hard to learn c programming it's kinda what to do next
[05:40] <kemik> spanglesontoast:  java is a nice beginner language i think... and then you can learn c++ and pointers :)
[05:40] <nalioth> bodisan: writing to NTFS is a good step toward a 0-windows box
[05:41] <SithAdmin> morning all....anybody playing with zimbra on ubuntu yet?
[05:41] <kemik> nalioth:  i didnt quite get that ...
[05:41] <kemik> nalioth:  if i have a 0-windows box i surely dont have to write to NTFS ;)
[05:41] <spanglesontoast> my mate etheron said I should make a cd lib
[05:41] <bob2> spanglesontoast: C is a terrible first language
[05:41] <bob2> spanglesontoast: there are lots of libraries for messing with cds, already
[05:41] <kemik> bob2:  amen to that
[05:42] <SithAdmin> bob2, agreed..need to learn assembly first then everything else just falls into place..
[05:42] <spanglesontoast> yea.
[05:42] <nalioth> kemik: if you write to NTFS from linux, you may wipe your NTFS partition. freeing it up for ext3
[05:42] <fredforfaen> damn is breezy really so unstable that you cant run kde and gnome on the same install???
[05:42] <spanglesontoast> but I wanna learn the basics
[05:42] <bob2> fredforfaen: no, of course not
[05:42] <nalioth> fredforfaen: it works fine
[05:42] <spanglesontoast> maybe make a mud after that
[05:42] <bob2> fredforfaen: please don't make wild uninformed claims in the hope of getting attention
[05:42] <bob2> it's really silly and annoying
[05:42] <spanglesontoast> without the m
[05:42] <kemik> nalioth:  ahaha. oic what you mean ;)
[05:42] <fredforfaen> sorry bob2
[05:42] <spanglesontoast> heh
[05:42] <fredforfaen> im just curius
[05:42] <snorks> and 1 questionmark is enough
[05:43] <kemik> SithAdmin:  haha.. assembly first ;) good one
[05:43] <fredforfaen> so why did i run into this problem then?Was it something i did ?
[05:43] <SithAdmin> kemik, I started with basic on the apple-2 then went to assembly, then pascal, fortran, cobol, C, then up the line.
[05:43] <snorks> fredforfaen: maybe something with the login manager?
[05:43] <kemik> spanglesontoast:  learn c++ and do some opengl apps. that's fun
[05:44] <Riddell> fredforfaen: why can't you run kde and gnome?
[05:44] <spanglesontoast> I want to learn c your pushing me off somewhere else
[05:44] <bodisan> is apt-get update suppose not to find some of the packages?
[05:44] <kemik> SithAdmin:  well that's ok.. but there's really no need to learn assembly language.. unless you wanna know more of how the CPU works
[05:44] <jstrubberg> Or write code for embedded controllers
[05:44] <kemik> jstrubberg:  mmmm ...
[05:44] <fredforfaen> Riddell i want to upgrade to breezy , and when i switched the repos and run apt-get update and dist-upgrade it wanted to remove kdelibs4 and i need that for k3b
[05:45] <kemik> but just getting started with coding, i'd say java/c++
[05:45] <kemik> snorks:  you mean pop()
[05:45] <spanglesontoast> i want c
[05:45] <spanglesontoast> then I'll move on to c++
[05:45] <Riddell> fredforfaen: did it say why?
[05:45] <kemik> spanglesontoast: well C is retarded
[05:45] <jstrubberg> Really?  I always thought C was kind of a pain.  It's so compact that debugging can be a true boil on the behind.
[05:45] <fredforfaen> Riddell no....
[05:45] <kemik> and you'll never use it ever again after learning c++
[05:46] <spanglesontoast> grrrr why is life so confusing
[05:46] <othernoob> kemik: really? why is that?
[05:46] <kemik> othernoob:  what's the point of using C ? except having headaches
[05:46] <othernoob> spanglesontoast: so you can look forward to death
[05:46] <spanglesontoast> I do have a book on sams teach yourself C++ in 10 mins
[05:46] <SithAdmin> C is good for small projects, embedded programming, that kinda thing.
[05:46] <othernoob> kemik: i might ask the same regarding women..
[05:47] <SithAdmin> C++ is better for large projects..
[05:47] <spanglesontoast> but not sure if it's a good book
[05:47] <kemik> SithAdmin:  if you're a hobbycoder i dont think you'll code for emedded systems
[05:47] <kemik> and usually it'll be some big-ass app you *want* todo ;)
[05:47] <SithAdmin> kemik, I am a hobby coder and I code embedded processors all the time....
[05:47] <fredforfaen> !breezy
[05:47] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[05:48] <SithAdmin> atmel AVR, microchip PIC, and 8051/8052 chips....
[05:48] <kemik> oh i really messed up the spelling of "embedded" ;)
[05:48] <spanglesontoast> like I've noticed
[05:48] <Prof_Frink> OK, trying to get wifi with a Belkin F5D7011 PCMCIA card. Followed instructions at http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu bu don't see a 'wireless connection' in step 3. Any hints?
[05:48] <kemik> SithAdmin:  really? what do ya do then ?
[05:48] <SithAdmin> make embedded processor based home automation systems for fun..
[05:48] <SithAdmin> and robotics
[05:48] <spanglesontoast> that you use printf to display output but in cpp you use cout
[05:49] <kemik> spanglesontoast:  std::cout if i may ;)
[05:49] <kemik> spanglesontoast:  but basically anything that can be done in C can be done i C++
[05:49] <kemik> spanglesontoast:  so if you know C++, you'll "know" C
[05:49] <SithAdmin> kemik, with a couple of minor exceptions, yes, agreed..
[05:49] <caps> kemik spanglesontoast:  but basically anything that can be done in C can be done i C++ : you can compile any C program with a C++ compiler... well, almost
[05:50] <SithAdmin> well,,will ask again, anybody play with zimbra yet?
[05:50] <kemik> caps:  i know :)
[05:50] <XHK> how to enable DHCP?
[05:50] <bob2> fredforfaen: if you want a definite answer on your issue, you need to show us the entire output of apt, and your /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:50] <spanglesontoast> ok
[05:50] <kemik> (and well... i guess you could create most C++ apps in C, but ooooh the headache ... ;) )
[05:50] <XHK> how to enable DHCP?
[05:51] <SithAdmin> XHK, /etc/init.d/dhcpd start
[05:51] <SithAdmin> if it is installed.
[05:51] <spanglesontoast> so your saying c++ is the way forward and c is for older and simple programs
[05:51] <XHK> ty
[05:51] <SithAdmin> you will have to edit the dhcp config file first though.
[05:51] <bob2> C and C++ have limited use in the modern world
[05:51] <kemik> spanglesontoast:  i just dont think there's any really great point of learning C first and then C++...
[05:51] <SithAdmin> spanglesontoast, for modern systems and programming the object oriented C++ is the way to go...
[05:51] <kemik> bob2:  nah, C++ is still cool... game.developing etc ;)
[05:51] <XHK> SithAdmin, what happens when its not installed?
[05:52] <bob2> spanglesontoast: learn python or ruby first, so you really know how to program
[05:52] <kemik> as SithAdmin said... OO is the way togo
[05:52] <SithAdmin> XHK, it wont start..
[05:52] <bob2> learning C will then be simple but frustrating
[05:52] <spanglesontoast> i had trouble with python
[05:52] <XHK> SithAdmin, but what should i do then?
[05:52] <SithAdmin> I taught myself C back in 1988...
[05:52] <bluefoxicy> Is it safe for me to assume daniels is the one repackaging X every 5 hours?
[05:52] <kemik> SithAdmin:  i was playing with Lego then ;)
[05:52] <SithAdmin> XHK, apt-get install dhcpd
[05:53] <XHK> ty
[05:53] <SithAdmin> kemik, I still play with lego...1200 USD worth of lego mindstorms in my basement..and no kids..
[05:53] <bob2> bluefoxicy: read the changelog
[05:53] <kemik> oh my :)
[05:53] <spanglesontoast> hmmm
[05:53] <bob2> spanglesontoast: if you had trouble with python, C is going to be enormously frustrating for you
[05:53] <bluefoxicy> bob2:  s/*/& every 5 hours/
[05:53] <spanglesontoast> I just wished i had a book for python
[05:53] <bluefoxicy> bob2:  :)
[05:53] <JustinHH> i have downloaded tvtime with synaptic. the image is black and white with. i use the pal system. can i get the specific pal sistem for romania?
[05:53] <sockpuppe1> out of a quaint curiosity, is installing fedora worthwhile
[05:53] <spanglesontoast> bah gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `cc1plus': No such file or director
[05:53] <bob2> spanglesontoast: www.diveintopython.org
[05:54] <bob2> spanglesontoast: install build-essential
[05:54] <spanglesontoast> ty
[05:54] <SithAdmin> spanglesontoast, there is a lot more to the compiler et all than just gcc...build-essential gets most of what you should need though.
[05:55] <bluefoxicy>   * Implement an anti-"I LOVE TO SHOT MY FEET" check that
[05:55] <spanglesontoast> ah
[05:55] <spanglesontoast> i'm just trying to do a hello world thing thou
[05:55] <spindley> has anyone got e17 successfully built on breezy current?
[05:55] <yancheng> hello all, may I know is "http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/" the backport for ubuntu?
[05:56] <yancheng> i cann't get any respond frm that server
[05:56] <deFrysk> yancheng, dont use it
[05:56] <nalioth> yancheng: search planet.ubuntulinux.com for "backports"
[05:56] <spanglesontoast> ah
[05:56] <spanglesontoast> I missed the # out of the include
[05:56] <nalioth> deFrysk: search planet.ubuntulinux.com for backports
[05:56] <spanglesontoast> lol
[05:57] <deFrysk> nalioth, okies ;p
[05:57] <bluefoxicy>   * Revert DRI protocol back to 4.x, so fglrx is all shiny again.  Note that
[05:57] <bluefoxicy>     this change breaks mixed 32/64-bit DRI clients.
[05:57] <butcherbird> scorpian are you in here?  hiding behind proxy... you deleted files off ftp server.  Ill kill you...
[05:57] <yancheng> nalioth: the url cannot be found :(
[05:57] <bluefoxicy> ^^^ Personally I would break it
[05:57] <nalioth> my bad, sorry it's http://planet.ubuntulinux.org/
[05:58] <bluefoxicy> (yes I'm an asshole)
[05:58] <yancheng> nalioth: thanks
[05:58] <spanglesontoast> only a simple problem
[05:58] <bruce90> the backports are at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[05:58] <spanglesontoast> it keeps saying permission denied on my own program
[05:58] <SithAdmin> spanglesontoast, chmod +755 programname
[05:58] <Renski> butcherbird: sorry to point this out...but why didnt you make a read only account if it was that importent?
[05:58] <butcherbird> well its his server I was just hiding stuff on it...
[05:59] <Renski> lol
[05:59] <spanglesontoast> bah? bash: ./test.o: cannot execute binary file
[05:59] <Renski> spanglesontoast: tried chmod 700 ./test.o ?
[05:59] <Renski> then try and run it
[05:59] <SithAdmin> spanglesontoast, you cant execute a .o file
[05:59] <SithAdmin> it needs to be linked.
[05:59] <ions> after doing updates I can't open external links in FF
[05:59] <spanglesontoast> oh
[06:00] <Renski> err
[06:00] <spanglesontoast> did i compile it wrong?
[06:00] <SithAdmin> what command did you use to compile it?
[06:00] <spanglesontoast> gcc -c
[06:00] <Renski> use g++
[06:00] <Renski> g++ input.c -o output
[06:00] <SithAdmin> -c tells it not to link.
[06:00] <ions> anyone else having trouble opening external links in FF?
[06:00] <spanglesontoast> ah
[06:01] <spanglesontoast> done ty
[06:01] <spanglesontoast> I thought gcc was g++?
[06:02] <yancheng> may i noe the difference of hoary-backport and hoary-extra??
[06:02] <SithAdmin> gcc only calls g++ if the filename ends in .cpp I think...as I recall it assumes standard gcc for .c files...g++ compiles it with c++ libs rather than older c libs
[06:02] <ions> no one else is having problems in Breezy opening external links in FF?
[06:02] <spanglesontoast> oh ok
[06:03] <spanglesontoast> that would explain alot
[06:03] <spanglesontoast> lol
[06:03] <XHK> SithAdmin looks i dont have dhcp, and apt-get isntall dhcp doesent work too
[06:03] <spanglesontoast> I do understand you it's just the c++ language that I do not
[06:03] <SithAdmin> XHK, apt-get install dhcpd
[06:03] <XHK> yea i tried it too
[06:03] <XHK> it wont find the package
[06:03] <bruce90> what external links>
[06:04] <SithAdmin> XHK, it would be something with your apt sources then..there might be another dhcp package out there...
[06:04] <peppertarts> Hey all...I have a strange problem with the Ubuntu fglrx driver..... it is working fine, with DRI!!.... however it wont let me select the correct resolution, I'm stuck in 1024x768.... not goot on a display that should be 1280x800
[06:04] <SithAdmin> XHK, try apt-cache search dhcpd
[06:04] <XHK> ok
[06:04] <peppertarts> Anyone have any ideas?
[06:05] <SithAdmin> XHK, should give you a list of all packages with dhcpd in them..
[06:05] <XHK> SithAdmin, but if i wont get dhcp, will it stop me from getting to internet?
[06:05] <SithAdmin> XHK, are you wanting a dhcp server?
[06:05] <SithAdmin> or just trying to get online?
[06:05] <XHK> ummm i want to connect to internet, when i have adsl
[06:06] <SithAdmin> totally different thing then...
[06:06] <XHK> mhh
[06:06] <SithAdmin> by default ubuntu should be able to get a dhcp address with no additional packages installed.
[06:06] <SithAdmin> least it always has for me.
[06:06] <_Benny_> hi all
[06:07] <XHK> When i isntalled it, it couldnt find automatically some kind of dhcp things
[06:07] <XHK> so i pressed i will conf it later
[06:08] <jstrubberg> XHK, do you have the IP address of your router?
[06:08] <XHK> no
[06:08] <XHK> Dotn have router
[06:08] <XHK> i have jsut modem
[06:09] <XHK> I messed with pppoeconf too. Can i somehow stop it?
[06:09] <SithAdmin> pppoe maybe?
[06:09] <jstrubberg> And you have the modem cabled to the NIC card?
[06:09] <XHK> yes
[06:09] <jstrubberg> New connection or one you used before you went to ubuntu?
[06:10] <XHK> I got ubuntu on that computer, right now im in windows
[06:10] <jstrubberg> Does the connection work under windows?
[06:10] <SithAdmin> XHK, and how many IPs does your modem provide to you?
[06:10] <XHK> yes
[06:10] <XHK> I dont know lol
[06:11] <SithAdmin> generally only one...which means one machine at a time connected to it..unless you have a router...
[06:11] <jstrubberg> And ubuntu is on another computer and you want to connect that one to the internet over the same adsl connection, right?
[06:11] <XHK> Ubuntu is on that computer
[06:12] <hutgyrr> can you force the maximum writing speed with growisofs without an implications?
[06:12] <jstrubberg> Ok, how is the second computer connected to the first one?  A hub of some kind?
[06:12] <thehil>  How do I find the number of occurance of a search result in vim?
[06:13] <XHK> How can i stop taht pppoeconf thing?
[06:13] <Psylo> XHK, on intall i always have to autodetect DHCP two or three times for it to detect if that helps at all
[06:13] <^AnK^[away] > wheew... i haven't identify my nick yet, but i can join this channel.... this is odd?
[06:13] <XHK> Hmn
[06:13] <XHK> Cant i detect in any more?
[06:14] <XHK> Psylo, cant i detect in again?
[06:14] <XHK> somho
[06:14] <XHK> w
[06:14] <XHK> somehow
[06:14] <Psylo> XHK, setting > network > properties choose DHCP in configuration
[06:15] <benkong2> where can I see those boot messages that flash by on my screen at boot time just long enough for me to see partially? I did dmesg but they are not there.
[06:15] <Psylo> might detect on reboot or something im not sure
[06:15] <urob> by by
[06:15] <mgh0^> has anyone installed cedega sucessfully?
[06:15] <{X}> !tcl
[06:15] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, {X}
[06:15] <morf> hi leute hab ne digicam un ubuntu 5.04 hab sie grad angeschlossen aba geht glaubich nix... was nu?
[06:15] <mgh0^> on breezy
[06:15] <benkong2> on my breezy boot I have a message about 8139 driver not found try 8139too
[06:16] <XHK> And how can i stop pppoeconf, or run it again? I messed it up and if i wanna run it again it says something is in use or not connected
[06:16] <Psylo> XHK, sorry, System menu > Administration > Network > Properties
[06:16] <benkong2> !boot messages
[06:16] <ubotu> No idea, benkong2
[06:16] <XHK> How can i stop pppoeconf, or run it again? I messed it up and if i wanna run it again it says something is in use or not connected
[06:16] <Cube-ness> hey.. breezy is working great for me, but i get the default login screen (not the ubuntu one) and an alert that says the config  has an incorrect command in it..
[06:16] <Cube-ness> where is this config'd at?
[06:16] <jstrubberg> Reboot and alt+F4 to watch the text?
[06:17] <XHK> I typed pppoeconf to terminal, confed everything, but it didnt work and i wanna conf again coz i think i typed my username wrong
[06:17] <Psylo> XHK, open a terminal and type pppoeconf to run the config again
[06:18] <{X}> anyone know where i can get TCL
[06:18] <{X}> from
[06:18] <XHK> but it says that connection is in use or ewhatever
[06:18] <XHK> i accepted it to start thge connection every startup
[06:18] <XHK> cant i stop it or msth
[06:18] <XHK> smth
[06:18] <XHK> ?
[06:19] <XHK> Argh im so noob :P
[06:19] <urob> I have a problem with adsl modem (Sitecom dc213)
[06:19] <golfer27> How do I change hostname when remastering Ubuntu 5.10 live cd?
[06:19] <{X}> urob install ndiswrapper
[06:19] <XHK> Does someone know then how to stop my connection?
[06:19] <Psylo> XHK, dont worry everyone is learning all the time :) does it work after a reboot?
[06:20] <XHK> Umm i said, i accepted it to connect every startup
[06:20] <JKnife> i feel like an idiot... i was only getting 30Kb on the servers... b/c i had it set to http instead of ftp
[06:20] <urob> What is ndswrapper?
[06:20] <jojox87> how can i use the console
[06:21] <nalioth> !tell jojox87 about cli
[06:21] <jojox87> quit
[06:22] <{X}> !ndiswrapper
[06:22] <ubotu> it has been said that ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wirless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[06:22] <XHK> Or maybe someone knows how can i just change my adsl account's username
[06:23] <hmrocha> hello
[06:23] <hmrocha> what packages have the openoffice dictionaries?
[06:24] <Psylo> XHK, i offered all the help i can im afraid, if you choose DHCP in network settings it should automatically detect the settings as far as i know but im using a router
[06:25] <Ashen> yeau
[06:25] <Ashen> anyone successfully mounted an iso in breezy?
[06:25] <Whistler> anybody else have just updated?
[06:25] <jstrubberg> XHK, I'm still not clear how you are getting from the ubuntu machine to the adsl router
[06:25] <Whistler> cause i am getting a bunch of errors booting
[06:26] <Ashen> ???
[06:26] <mcrandello> hi does anyone know where I could download a .deb for sun java?
[06:26] <Psylo> Ashen, sudo mount -loop xxxxx.iso /dev/cdrom i think
[06:27] <Ashen> mmm... I'm getting the following error
[06:27] <nalioth> mcrandello: hoary or breezy?
[06:27] <urob> my adsl modem is ethernet ..and it isn't seen unbelievable
[06:27] <mcrandello> nalioth, hoary
[06:27] <Ashen> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop2,
[06:27] <hmrocha> mcrandello, that is not legal, you have to create the .deb yourself
[06:27] <nalioth> mcrandello: http://www.giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/
[06:27] <nalioth> mcrandello: be illegal
[06:27] <motoguzzi> can anyone explain why ubuntu and some other flavours of linux dont support mp3 and dvd out of the box
[06:27] <mcrandello> nalioth, thanks :)
[06:27] <nalioth> motoguzzi: licensing
[06:28] <Ashen> motoguzzi: to protect them from legalities that might make them not free or get them sued.
[06:28] <motoguzzi> dvd i can see but mp3
[06:28] <seigologies> any malaysian here?
[06:28] <Ashen> its a proprietry format
[06:28] <Psylo> Ashen, mount -o loop -t iso9660 xxxxx.iso /mnt/isoimage/ - from the web
[06:28] <tritium> seigologies: race/ethnicity is irrelevant here
[06:28] <mcrandello> I was under the impression that you *could* redist java as long as you didn't also provide competitors' implementations
[06:29] <Ashen> Psylo: yeh, I get that error when I use that command...
[06:29] <seigologies> sorry
[06:29] <nalioth> mcrandello: ssshhhh. just go get it
[06:29] <seigologies> just want to now
[06:29] <mcrandello> the jre is what I want for the firefox plugin, right?
[06:29] <motoguzzi> so these things dont affect billy and the the gang, will they not always be ahead of linux
[06:29] <nalioth> mcrandello: it'll fix you up
[06:29] <seigologies> just want to know
[06:29] <Ashen> the syslog says --> Unable to identify CD-ROM format.
[06:30] <Ashen> :S
[06:30] <Psylo> Ashen, I get that error sometimes with .bin files converted to .iso perhaps the iso is screwed
[06:30] <jstrubberg> moto, as long as people continue to use their formats, yes
[06:30] <Ashen> it works in windows
[06:30] <Ashen> but I've tried a couple
[06:30] <Ashen> I'll try some others
[06:31] <seigologies> how to ask any quest?
[06:31] <nalioth> seigologies: use your keyboard
[06:31] <Ashen> nope, doesn't work with a perfectly fine ubuntu iso either
[06:31] <Ashen> hrmmm.
[06:31] <seigologies> orait
[06:32] <Ashen> perhaps there is something wrong with my mount of the hdd I'm reading it from?
[06:32] <Psylo> Ashen, perhaps the mount point is wrong i have to use /dev/cdrom1/ or something
[06:32] <seigologies> can i pm with someone?
[06:32] <tritium> seigologies: please ask in the channel
[06:33] <mcrandello> nalioth, thank you and thank you Francis
[06:33] <Ashen> you use a mountpoint inside your device node dir?
[06:33] <Ashen> O-o
[06:33] <Ashen> wurd.
[06:33] <mgh0^> has anyone managed to install Cedega onto the amd64 version of ubuntu?
[06:33] <seigologies> erm..
[06:33] <fbn> I try to apt-get smbfs but dpkg tells me this:   smbfs: Depends: samba-common (= 3.0.10-1ubuntu3) but 3.0.14a-3ubuntu3~5.04ubp1 is to be installed - no backports in sources.list ... what's wrong here?
[06:33] <Ashen> I dunno, have you mounted any iso's on breezy?
[06:33] <trask> recommendable ftp client gui that i can get on apt-get?
[06:33] <Ashen> gftp
[06:33] <mcrandello> mgh0^, I managed to get the cvs installed but it didn't work so well
[06:33] <mgh0^> trask fireftp for fitefox is pretty good
[06:33] <Psylo> Ashen, no i havent in breezy
[06:34] <tritium> trask: gftp
[06:34] <mcrandello> mgh0^, oh wait you said 64 nm
[06:34] <mgh0^> mcrandello, how?
[06:34] <Ashen> Psylo: I'm thinking that there might be something wrong with the loopback device in breezy.
[06:34] <seigologies> i have problem about sound..
[06:34] <trask> sais package not found.. seems like the ubuntu im logged into needs a new list...:(
[06:34] <mcrandello> mgh0^, sorry, didn't mean to get your hopes up :(
[06:34] <seigologies> i use benq labtop
[06:34] <Ashen> Psylo: but I dunno how I'd fix that
[06:34] <Ashen> :p
[06:34] <tritium> trask: have you upated the list?
[06:34] <Psylo> Ashen, im trying to find an ISO to mount
[06:35] <spanglesontoast> what's this error E: /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/var/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions.d/00classic', which is also in package firefox
[06:35] <trask> tritium: nope.. im on slackware here.. ssh i try to help a freind
[06:35] <tritium> spanglesontoast: just what it looks like
[06:35] <tritium> trask: he needs to sudo apt-get update
[06:35] <trask> tritium: how do i update list?
[06:35] <spanglesontoast> how do I fix
[06:35] <trask> tritium: tnx :)
[06:35] <mouhez> how do I install ubuntu on a 1700 mb hd?
[06:35] <seigologies> no sound?
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> spanglesontoast,  in the past ive uninstalled  the old package, then reinstalled the new
[06:35] <trask> im logged in as root btw
[06:35] <seigologies> how to..
[06:36] <tritium> trask: which one are you installing?
[06:36] <spanglesontoast> yea i just tried doing that aswell
[06:36] <trask> tritium: tried both after update, none where found.. :(
[06:36] <Ashen> Psylo: k
[06:36] <spanglesontoast> it says the same error when trying to update that package or removing it
[06:36] <tritium> trask: both being which ones?  they might be in repositories your friend needs to add
[06:37] <trask> tritium: gftp first then fireftp
[06:37] <tritium> trask: hoary or breezy?
[06:37] <butcherbird> mouhez, you could just do a server install clean that up and then apt-get the other stuff
[06:37] <trask> tritium: breezy
[06:37] <peppertarts> Does anyone know how to force a certain screen resolution to be used? My xorg.0.log is only listing resolutions up to 1024x768 as usable
[06:37] <mouhez> butcherbird 'kay
[06:37] <spanglesontoast> it says the same error when trying to update that package or removing it
[06:37] <spanglesontoast> oops
[06:37] <spanglesontoast> sorry
[06:38] <ccooke> peppertarts: you're sure your hardware supports higher resolutions?
[06:38] <seigologies> somebody
[06:38] <seigologies> help
[06:38] <peppertarts> yeah, I'm using a laptop with a screen that is 1280x800
[06:38] <rockin_stan> seigologies, ?
[06:38] <spanglesontoast> ah fixed
[06:38] <spanglesontoast> dw
[06:38] <rockin_stan> !tell seigologies about ask
[06:38] <seigologies> about sound
[06:39] <seigologies> no sound in y labtop
[06:39] <tritium> !info gftp
[06:39] <ubotu> gftp: (X/GTK+ FTP client), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2.0.18-2 (hoary), Packaged size: 43 kB, Installed size: 76 kB
[06:39] <seigologies> ok
[06:39] <seigologies> t
[06:39] <trask> tritium: cant i add some more servers to the apt-get list?.. think i did that back when i tried debian for a little while
[06:40] <spanglesontoast> ok
[06:40] <Ashen> Psylo: I get the same thing when I'm attempting to mount from the ext
[06:40] <spanglesontoast> now I cannot start firefox great
[06:40] <tritium> trask: see ubotu's reply above.  gftp is in universe
[06:40] <urob> I don't succeed in installing any modems (of it ethernet of it ubs) not even following the ordinary proceedures
[06:40] <tritium> you need to add the universe repos, trask
[06:40] <trask> tritium: ok ill try that
[06:40] <tritium> !tell trask about repositories
[06:40] <urob> the error of the usb is this:root@systemrob:~# /home/urob/cestorob/adsl/eciadsl-usermode-0.10/eciadsl-doctor You are using linux kernel version 2.6.12-8-amd64-generic
[06:40] <urob> Support for USB is OK
[06:40] <urob> Preliminary USB device filesystem is OK
[06:40] <urob> dabusb module is not loaded: OK
[06:40] <urob> UHCI support is OK
[06:40] <urob> OHCI support is not needed
[06:40] <urob> /dev/ppp is OK
[06:40] <urob> HDLC support is OK
[06:40] <tritium> spanglesontoast: you were using backports, weren't you?
[06:41] <urob> HDLC support is OK (no bug)
[06:41] <urob> I cannot find your ADSL modem: Fatal
[06:41] <urob> root@systemrob:~#
[06:41] <trask> ty
[06:41] <spanglesontoast> backports?
[06:41] <Psylo> Ashen, works here
[06:41] <Ashen> hrmmm.
[06:41] <Ashen> same command?
[06:41] <Psylo> Ashen, http://www.frankandjacq.com/ubuntuguide/5.04/index.html#mountunmountisofileswithoutburning
[06:41] <spanglesontoast> just using the repos listed on the wikis
[06:41] <erUSUL> urob: do *not* paste here see /topic
[06:42] <Whistler> anybody else having probs with last breezy update?
[06:42] <tritium> spanglesontoast: which ones?  There are several
[06:42] <tritium> Whistler: in what way?
[06:42] <Whistler> cause nautilus hangs up
[06:42] <urob> where is  /topic ?
[06:42] <sunshine> hi in need w32codec now hoary extra suppose to have it but it dont
[06:43] <spanglesontoast> no idea now
[06:43] <tritium> sunshine: they were removed
[06:43] <erUSUL> urob: for error messages use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/
[06:43] <Ashen> Psylo: strange... still nothing... I'm gonna do a reboot... brb
[06:43] <erUSUL> urob: and post only the url
[06:43] <Psylo> Ashen, good luck :)
[06:44] <trask> tritium: nice page, tho i cant do that adding in commandline :P  (on ssh only)
[06:44] <tritium> trask: you can add if you edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:44] <nalioth> sunshine: http://www.giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/
[06:44] <snorks> what's put command to put multiple files/directory? (-r) via ftp
[06:45] <trask> tritium: ty once again
[06:45] <tritium> trask: thanks for helping your friend :)
[06:45] <spanglesontoast> it moans something about sources
[06:46] <erUSUL> snorks: mput, you could have tryed the help in your ftp client
[06:47] <snorks> erUSUL: tried.
[06:47] <snorks> erUSUL: put             send one file
[06:47] <loststryk> hmmm my download speeds have tripled since i installed ubuntu.... weird..
[06:47] <erUSUL> snorks: and mput?
[06:49] <loststryk> too weird
[06:49] <loststryk> how can i be getting 351KB/s downloads on a 1mbit connection ?
[06:49] <Psylo> loststryk, i find torrents soar in ubuntu compared to win XP
[06:50] <loststryk> yeah but a 1mbit is like 120KB/s ?
[06:50] <evian> when I print in Gnome I can't get the output to be nearly as good as it is in windows when I have the windows settings on "high quality". (I have an hp deskjet 840c inkjet.) Any suggestions?
[06:50] <loststryk> maybe my provider made a mistake or something....
[06:50] <ccooke> loststryk: 1) compression 2) locally cached data...
[06:50] <loststryk> downloading rar / films
[06:50] <jstrubberg> 1 mbit is 1024 K.
[06:50] <ccooke> there are tons of possible reasons :-)
[06:50] <Psylo> loststryk, its being sent that fast, you recieving your top speed - be happy :)
[06:50] <ccooke> jstrubberg: actually, no.
[06:50] <loststryk> not going to look a gifthorse in the mouth
[06:50] <loststryk> :)
[06:50] <ccooke> it's 1000000 bits per second.
[06:51] <Psylo> jstrubberg, thats 1 megabyte
[06:51] <carrett> hey guys. i'm on breezy, i have to use an older version of cdrecord though, because of hardware issues. anyway, is there any way i can stop the update thingy from bugging me to update cdrecord?
[06:51] <ccooke> because the marketeers got to it first.
[06:51] <Psylo> jstrubberg, confusing eh? i know
[06:51] <jstrubberg> That's what he said, a 1mbit connection
[06:51] <evian> I've tried the advanced tab in the printer properties, increasing the res to 600dpi, but that doesn't seem to do it
[06:51] <randyspizer> heil
[06:52] <Psylo> jstrubberg, 1 megaBIT is smaller than 1 megaBYTE
[06:52] <Zeke1> anybody have an ati x800 and got it to work...mine dont want to
[06:52] <loststryk> 8 times smaller
[06:52] <nalioth> carrett: see the wiki on apt pinning
[06:52] <ccooke> Zeke1: closest I have is an X600
[06:52] <randyspizer> hello
[06:52] <randyspizer> i am from spain
[06:52] <sunshine> i try that website to download w32codec the download just finsh the debian binary is unknow anyone have any other ideas how I can get w32codec
[06:52] <jstrubberg> Ah.  Gotcha.  1mbit would be 140 some K
[06:52] <Zeke1> ccooke, is yours working cause my X wont start when i select ati drivers?
[06:52] <bratsche> Hi guys.
[06:52] <erUSUL> randyspizer: better try in #ubuntu-es
[06:53] <jstrubberg> You have a provider giving out megaBIT connections?  Never run into that before
[06:53] <evian> ccooke: marketing: where the rubber meets the sky
[06:53] <ccooke> Zeke1: works fine, breezy and hoary.
[06:53] <Psylo> loststryk, windows limits outgoin/incoming connections to 25 or something, perhaps thats a reason
[06:53] <randyspizer> thank you
[06:53] <Ashen> Psylo: still nothing-- I think you might be right about the iso's being corrupted
[06:53] <Zeke1> ccooke, i have breezy...but i dont know whats wrong
[06:53] <Psylo> Ashen, damn, bad luck pal :(
[06:53] <loststryk> psylo; not sure whats going on, but i do my 1mbit connection should not be going over 126KB/s, but it's quite happily crusing along at 351KB/s
[06:53] <d[^_-] b`> how to enter console mode ?
[06:54] <ccooke> Zeke1: okay. How did you install the ati drivers?
[06:54] <Psylo> loststryk, my dl speed goes well over the limit sometimes too, wether you actually get that speed is debatable but it seems like it sometimes
[06:55] <tritium> Zeke1: I hope you followed the wiki for installing ATI drivers
[06:55] <ccooke> have you installed linux-restricted-modules-386 (or 686 or k7 or whatever your architecture is)
[06:55] <Zeke1> ccooke, it was during installation it auto detected and then bombed out and gave an error...i changed the xorg file to vesa drivers just to get X to work
[06:55] <ccooke> I see
[06:55] <tritium> !tell Zeke1 about ati
[06:55] <Zeke1> ccooke, i also tried dpk-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:56] <Psylo> loststryk, reap the benefits my man :)
[06:56] <loststryk> i am
[06:56] <loststryk> vcd after vcd :)
[06:56] <MFen> hi!
[06:56] <sunshine> i need to get w32codec does anyone know how i can get it i've already tried deb
[06:56] <Psylo> loststryk, lol good work
[06:56] <MFen> of the various systems for locally caching apt updates for other ubuntu/debian machines on a lan, what's the least painful to set up and use?
[06:56] <atha> sunshine: what was wrong with the .deb
[06:56] <ccooke> Zeke1: try following the instructions you've been given for installing the fglrx (ati proprietary) drivers
[06:57] <MFen> i have about 4 ubuntu computers that need to get updates from one other one, rather than the network
[06:57] <nalioth> sunshine: www.mplayerhq.hu on the downloads page
[06:57] <Psylo> later all, may ubuntu treat you well :)
[06:57] <ccooke> Hmm. Time to escape from work.
[06:57] <sunshine> the debian binary is unknow when  the download is finsh
[06:57] <Zeke1> ccooke, where are those instructions?
[06:58] <MFen> can anyone make a recommendation? is, say, apt-proxy any good?
[06:58] <tritium> Zeke1: I had ubotu msg you with them
[06:58] <tritium> never tried it, MFen
[06:58] <urob> For my problem:http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2617
[06:58] <Zeke1> tritium, oh yeah but thsoe instruction are only for werty and hoary i have breezy
[06:59] <tritium> Zeke1: same applies for breezy
[06:59] <Zeke1> ok
[06:59] <Zeke1> thx
[06:59] <ccooke> tritium: hmm.... ATI instructions for breezy should be updated
[07:00] <ccooke> !tell me about ati
[07:00] <tritium> ccooke: in what way?
[07:00] <trask> is there a default teminal editor install i can use?.. emacs doesnt seem to either work nor want to b apt-get installed
[07:00] <ccooke> tritium: no, it's okay. I just checked the instructions and they're simpler than the ones I followed
[07:01] <tritium> trask: apt-cache search emacs should help you find the package name
[07:01] <ccooke> that is, simpler than the *hoary* instructions I followed first, months ago
[07:01] <trask> tritium: ty .. again :)
[07:01] <adjacent> trask: im sure vi is there
[07:01] <tritium> ccooke: I see.  Thanks for checking.
[07:01] <jstrubberg> I just downloaded the .run file from the ATI website and used sh to execute it, then fglrxconfig.  Got my 9250 card going perfectly
[07:01] <tritium> yeah, vi should be there by default, as well as pico
[07:01] <MFen> well lemme make this simpler.  between apt-proxy and debproxy, which one do people recommend?
[07:01] <ccooke> but the drivers in breezy are *vastly* better than the ones we had for hoary.
[07:01] <tritium> jstrubberg: please don't advise that to others
[07:02] <jstrubberg> Really?  Problems?
[07:02] <MFen> ccooke: is that a general statement about drivers or just that hardware?
[07:02] <hutgyrr> how do u quit vi?
[07:02] <MFen> because i gotta say, the drivers in hoary are generally excellent
[07:02] <adjacent> hutgyrr: either shift zz, or :q
[07:02] <tritium> jstrubberg: yeah, it writes files onto the system that are not under package management
[07:02] <tritium> ubuntu packages should be used instead
[07:02] <jstrubberg> Ah, so afterwarads you are stuck manually updating
[07:02] <ccooke> MFen: the ATI drivers in breezy are the latest release, which was an absolutely massive improvement.
[07:02] <hutgyrr> ahhhh yeah, i much prefer nano
[07:02] <MFen> ccooke: ah ok
[07:03] <tritium> hutgyrr: then use pico
[07:03] <evian> how can I add a folder to the "Places" menu at the top of the screen?
[07:03] <hutgyrr> pico seems to just load nano
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> I got ati and breezy on my X200m based laptop working.. which suprised me.
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:03] <ccooke> MFen: on my hoary install, before I installed the latest version from ATI (since hoary doesn't have 8.16.20) I couldn't get two monitors working.
[07:03] <nalioth> !tell evian about smeg
[07:03] <adjacent> pico < nano < emacs < vi < vim, isnt nano more featuer rich than pico?
[07:03] <hutgyrr> pico config.pl is the same as nano config.pl
[07:03] <tritium> hutgyrr: it's not nano.  It just looks exactly like it
[07:03] <MFen> ccooke: you deprived individual :)
[07:04] <erUSUL> hutgyrr: nano is apico clon pico is not free software
[07:04] <ccooke> MFen: 8.16.20 gives a roughly 20% GL speed increase, and fixes autodetection of monitors.
[07:04] <adjacent> ahh
[07:04] <ccooke> huge difference.
[07:04] <MFen> ccooke: how do games play? i've been thinking about putting ati in my next system
[07:04] <hutgyrr> well when I load pico it says at the top of the terminal GNU NANO 1.2.4
[07:04] <ccooke> MFen: fine. I have darwinia and neverwinternights on here
[07:04] <MFen> coo
[07:04] <ccooke> MFen: NWN is noticably faster than the windows version
[07:05] <adjacent> erUSUL: ;) just threw that in there for fun.
[07:05] <ccooke> MFen: ... for a start, it's (almost) playable in 1920x1200...
[07:05] <MFen> ccooke: i've seen that in other games, at least with nvidia
[07:05] <MFen> :)
[07:05] <ccooke> well, except for the font being completely unreadable :-)
[07:05] <MFen> heh
[07:05] <hutgyrr> so what is NANO then if its not free software
[07:05] <ccooke> there's no point trying to play it at anything above about 1024x768
[07:06] <tritium> hutgyrr: it's software from U.W., like pine
[07:06] <hutgyrr> is it not *GNU* nano???
[07:06] <havoc> nano is GNU
[07:06] <tritium> milli, micro, nano, pico...whatever.  yes, it's gnu
[07:06] <hutgyrr> yes so does that mean its GPL
[07:06] <ccooke> MFen: the linux version crashes about as often as the windows version... but the windows version has a habit of crashing every time you try to leave a location, even when you load the savegame. So you have to go to a previous savegame... or restart the game
[07:07] <erUSUL> hutgyrr: *pico* is not free
[07:07] <havoc> *pico* is the U.W. pine package
[07:07] <ccooke> anyway. I need to escape this pit of despair. Well. Office, pit of despair. Much the same...
[07:07] <havoc> nano is a 'free' pico clone
[07:07] <hutgyrr> so nano is GPL
[07:07] <havoc> yes
[07:07] <tritium> but not pico or pine, hutgyrr
[07:07] <BurgerMann> Humn. Howcome it's more secure to not know the root pwd, when in fact the user can do root commands with their own passwords? :S
[07:08] <hutgyrr> well, how is it that I get into nano whether I issue nano or pico?
[07:08] <gigaclon> BurgerMann, only some users can do it
[07:08] <atha> it's because /usr/bin/pico is only a symbolic link :)
[07:08] <erUSUL> BurgerMann: sudo commands get logged root comands do not
[07:08] <MFen> BurgerMann: it's not "security" so much as integrity. logging in as root means you will trash your system frequently.  sudo puts a layer of "think" in between you and the dangerous commands. us
[07:08] <sunshine> nal i went to the mplayer website and download the codec file but it came back the file is unknown
[07:09] <nerp> Running aclocal...
[07:09] <nerp> aclocal: configure.in: 17: macro `AM_ENABLE_SHARED' not found in library
[07:09] <nerp> aclocal: configure.in: 18: macro `AM_PROG_LIBTOOL' not found in library
[07:09] <nerp> anyone have any idea how to fix that?
[07:09] <hutgyrr> atha: why is that symbolic link set-up as default?
[07:09] <nerp> need glibtool?
[07:09] <GrannyTux> cute
[07:09] <GrannyTux> http://www.strangehorizons.com/2004/20040405/badger.shtml
[07:09] <BurgerMann> ohh :9
[07:10] <evian> Sorry, who told me about smeg earlier? I mean who told ubotu to tell me about it? I have tried it (in breezy) but I can't figure out how to make it let me edit more than just the Applications menu. I'd like to edit the Places menu.
[07:10] <coobra> whats upp whit the repos...
[07:10] <erUSUL> nerp:  do not paste here
[07:11] <nerp> mtay
[07:11] <evian> !tell evian about smeg
[07:12] <nerp> !aclocal
[07:12] <ubotu> No idea, nerp
[07:12] <Zeke1> how do u get your kernel version in a terminal again
[07:12] <nerp> uname -a
[07:12] <nerp> Zeke1, ^
[07:12] <tritium> If you just need the number, use -r
[07:13] <atha> hutgyrr: to provide familiar name for executable for us who still mostly type "pico" when trying to run this easy to use editor
[07:16] <Zeke1> tritium, when i follow those ati instructions ad do the apt-get install it says cant find xorg-driver-fglrx
[07:17] <tritium> Zeke1: apt-cache search fglrx
[07:17] <snorks> http://fun.drno.de/pics/how_make_crossovercable.jpg <- general rule to ease remembering
[07:17] <tritium> it should be there, Zeke1
[07:18] <Zeke1> tritium,  i get a wierd error...can i put it in a pvet msg box for you?
[07:18] <tritium> !info xorg-driver-fglrx breezy
[07:18] <ubotu> xorg-driver-fglrx: (Video driver for ATI graphics accelerators), section restricted/misc, is optional. Version: 6.8.0-8.16.20-0ubuntu13 (breezy), Packaged size: 8129 kB, Installed size: 23540 kB
[07:18] <tritium> Zeke1: do you have the restricted repo enabled?
[07:19] <Zeke1> tritium, probably ot
[07:19] <Zeke1> not*
[07:19] <tritium> Zeke1: try working that issue first then, please
[07:20] <Zeke1> tritium, i dont know what restricted repo is....i get a weird error can i pvt msg it to you
[07:20] <tritium> Zeke1: okay
[07:21] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[07:21] <XHK> I ran pppoeconf, but i think i insterted my username wrong. I cant run it again too, beacause it will say that acess concerator did not respond. I need to close another running pppoe process, but ho i do it?
[07:21] <Zeke1> tritium, i pasted it in a pvet msg box
[07:22] <erUSUL> XHK: poff?
[07:22] <tritium> Zeke1: I didn't get one.  Is your nick registered?
[07:22] <sunshine> does anyone know how i can get w32codec i tried deb and the mplayer website anyother ideas
[07:22] <XHK> erUSUL whats poff??
[07:22] <tritium> sunshine: nalioth already told you
[07:22] <gigaclon> sunshine, synaptic
[07:23] <EnsignRedshirt> Sorry if this is an #ubuntu FAQ, but... How is breezy these days?  I currently run warty, but the from the sounds that my hard drive is making, I expect it will die soon.  I might as well upgrade when I replace it.  It might not last until the official release of breezy.
[07:23] <erUSUL> a comand you type in a terminal
[07:23] <XHK> that will stop pppoe process?
[07:23] <Zeke1> tritium, yeah i just forgot to identify myself let me try again
[07:23] <AstralJava> EnsignRedshirt: It's gonna be released on Oct. 13th.
[07:23] <XHK> erUSUL will it stop pppoe process?
[07:23] <Zeke1> tritium,  now try
[07:24] <EnsignRedshirt> AstralJava: Have there been any major problems with the preview release of breezy?
[07:24] <AstralJava> EnsignRedshirt: Oh, sorry I now got what you meant. Still unstable, more or less. If you can wait until release date, I'd suggest doing that.
[07:24] <XHK> erUSUL will it stop pppoe process?
[07:24] <EnsignRedshirt> AstralJava: Ah, OK.
[07:24] <erUSUL> XHK: with modems it woks, try
[07:24] <XHK> Ok ty
[07:25] <gigaclon> EnsignRedshirt, you can always upgrade after you installed ubuntu
[07:25] <dmacdonald111> Hi all.
[07:26] <nalioth> EnsignRedshirt: if and when your HD dies, breezy is ok to use
[07:26] <jpfarias> hey guys
[07:27] <jpfarias> since I've upgraded to breezy, my screen sometimes goes black as if the screensaver was enabled
[07:27] <Ainvar> what linux ipod application is compatible with ephpod in windows?
[07:27] <jpfarias> but it happens when I'm using the computer
[07:27] <AstralJava> jpfarias: A laptop?
[07:27] <evian> I found out how to add stuff to the Places menu, if anyone else cares.
[07:27] <jpfarias> AstralJava, yep
[07:27] <dmacdonald111> I am still having problems trying to set up my wireless network. I have the information available to view @ http://foxgamer.8m.net/custom.html. Could someone have a look and tell me where I'm going wrong. It's driving me mad!
[07:28] <AstralJava> jpfarias: No chance that the killswitch would be to blame? You know the one that closes when you close the lid?
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> wireless is such an annoyance :P lol - i can get mine ALMOST working.
[07:28] <AstralJava> jpfarias: No idea, just my previous had that problem. Nothing to do with Breezy though. :)
[07:28] <shekhar_> can someone help me with bluetooth manager in breezy?
[07:29] <tritium> !tell Zeke1 about repositories
[07:29] <AstralJava> shekhar_: I'll try, what's the problem?
[07:29] <jpfarias> AstralJava, I think it is not that thing which is pressed when one closes the display
[07:29] <AdmiralSenn> anyone know of a way to recover a damaged ext2 filesystem without ruining all data on it?
[07:29] <AstralJava> shekhar_: Sorry, didn't read that far that it concerns Breezy... I'm still using Hoary.
[07:29] <shekhar_> AstralJava:  i cannot pair my phone, though it is detected and asks for a passkey, ubuntu does not respond
[07:30] <EnsignRedshirt> As an alternative to upgrading... If I need to replace my hard drive and keep my installation, would the following work?  (1) Copy the entire drive to an external HD; (2) Replace the old drive with a new one; (3) Boot with some LiveCD (ubuntu, knoppix, whatever), and copy the external drive to the new drive; (4) reboot.
[07:30] <evian> AdmiralSenn: you know about fsck?
[07:30] <shekhar_> AstralJava:  it may not be a breezy-hoary issue
[07:30] <AdmiralSenn> evian, a little
[07:30] <evian> did you try it already?
[07:30] <AdmiralSenn> I don't know how to use it
[07:31] <evian> man fsck
[07:31] <valzaq> can anyone tell me how to bur a cd with gnome?
[07:31] <sunshine> tri i tried that when it download the files were unknown
[07:31] <erUSUL> EnsignRedshirt: you will have to reinstall grub aswell
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> heh - i hear the phrase "I dont know how" way too much at work when answering PC questions.
[07:31] <sunshine> w32codecs is not in synatics i checked there first it was in hoary extra but it not there anymore
[07:32] <puff> Hm.
[07:32] <EnsignRedshirt> erUSUL: Ah, that's right.
[07:32] <AstralJava> shekhar_: What kind of a phone is it? Nokia, SonyEricsson, Siemens?
[07:32] <dmacdonald111> valzaq: Try using K3b which is very good for burning cd's
[07:32] <valzaq> does it work in gnome?
[07:33] <B_166-ER-X> valzaq,  you have a few choice , yo uhave Gnome Baker, wich i fin unreliable, or to install k3b, a KDE burning app, wich works really gret
[07:33] <nalioth> valzaq: it works very well
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> k3b works very well :P
[07:33] <dmacdonald111> yes, valzaq, I only use gnome :)
[07:33] <AstralJava> valzaq: Graveman is alright as well.
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> w32codecs -->  http://www.giannaros.org/tor/bt/
[07:33] <valzaq> ok thanks
[07:33] <AdmiralSenn> evian, all it says is what I already know - it's probably a damaged superblock
[07:33] <nalioth> Dr_Willis: those are only for breezy
[07:33] <AdmiralSenn> I did fsck /dev/hda2, which is the partition I need
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> bummer. :P
[07:33] <erUSUL> valzaq: for data cd nautilus works here whithout problems
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> thats all i use.
[07:33] <urob> My second problem always in the installation of the modem adsl is this: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2618
[07:34] <nalioth> Dr_Willis: here are the hoary ones http://www.giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. actually makes ya wonder what the diff in the package would be for breezy or the others.
[07:34] <urob> When it will be possible to get the answers'
[07:34] <dmacdonald111> On wireless, it is set up correctly in mepis, so, would I be able to copy the setup files over to ubuntu for these to work?
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> its just a dir with a bunch of dll's when i looked in the package
[07:34] <evian> AdmiralSenn: that's what fsck says?
[07:34] <AdmiralSenn> yes
[07:34] <evian> or what the man page says
[07:34] <evian> oh
[07:35] <AdmiralSenn> should I do e2fsck -p?
[07:35] <erUSUL> dmacdonald111: if mepis is debian like it should work.
[07:35] <evian> yeah, but you have to unmount the partition first
[07:35] <Alvin> o_O
[07:35] <AdmiralSenn> it's not mounted anyway
[07:35] <evian> ok
[07:35] <Alvin> 'lo people
[07:35] <AdmiralSenn> I'm on my livecd
[07:35] <evian> yeah try the -p option
[07:35] <valzaq> or u can use the ubuntu live cd and then do the fsck
[07:35] <AdmiralSenn> ... great, it says the same thing as last time
[07:35] <dmacdonald111> erUSUL: yes, mepis is debian based. Thank you for that. I'll see if I can find all the files to copy across.
[07:36] <AdmiralSenn> evian, should I message you the output?
[07:36] <evian> sure, although I'm not an expert, I'm curious
[07:36] <BurgerMann> in order to get mysql+php+apache to work together, what must I install first?
[07:36] <erUSUL> dmacdonald111: maybe just looking for hints in the configuration files is a wiser idea... anyway make backups of the old files
[07:37] <sunshine> does anyone know how i can get w32codecs#
[07:37] <Alvin> careful, IRC kicks if you paste a lot of lines
[07:37] <Alvin> it thinks it's spam
[07:37] <AstralJava> jpfarias: So you say it blanks out when you're working on your machine? There's not even a minute of a break? I noticed that xscreensaver on my Hoary machine goes blank after a minute or so, even if I set it to 10 minutes.
[07:37] <valzaq> i recently had problems with my netcard modules everything was workin fine, i rebooted the computer and then the modules started failing
[07:37] <AdmiralSenn> that's why I'm using PM's
[07:37] <Alvin> Ah
[07:37] <Alvin> sorry =P
[07:37] <AdmiralSenn> no problem
[07:37] <jpfarias> AstralJava, it goes black no matter I'm working or not =(
[07:37] <Alvin> Hey, anyone know why ubuntu 5.04 won't detect my sound card?
[07:37] <AstralJava> jpfarias: So it could just be an xscreensaver bug, or something else. I'm sorry I never figured that one out, just set it to 100 minutes and the problem went away. Can't help you further...
[07:38] <dmacdonald111> erUSUL: Thank you. I shall have a hunt and see what I can find. Thanks for the tip on making backups! I always forget to do that. lol
[07:38] <jpfarias> AstralJava, ok
[07:38] <atha> sunshine: I think the link for the .deb has been pasted couple of times in a last 5 minutes
[07:38] <erUSUL> Alvin: it depends on your soundcard
[07:38] <jpfarias> AstralJava, the funny thing about it is that I've disabled the screensaaver
[07:38] <sunshine> i've had the deb i've download it but the files are unknown
[07:38] <nalioth> sunshine: unknown to what?
[07:38] <atha> what applications says that the files are unknown?
[07:39] <linukso> Hi! Any gaim users here :)? How can I unblock an msn contact in gaim?
[07:39] <Alvin> Oh oh! pick me!
[07:39] <AstralJava> jpfarias: Well then, that's outta the question. :) I have no idea what else could be causing it, sorry...
[07:39] <sunshine> the file type are classified as unknown so they would not run
[07:39] <Alvin> I know
[07:39] <jpfarias> AstralJava, thanks
[07:39] <linukso> found it!
[07:39] <nalioth> sunshine: how did you try to run them?
[07:39] <atha> sunshine: .deb's are not meant to be run as themselves, but installed with dpkg -i file.deb
[07:40] <nalioth> sunshine: from a terminal
[07:40] <AdmiralSenn> evian, I'm going to make a second ext2 partition in some free space and see if I can use that superblock
[07:40] <urob> eihh!!!!!!!!! Is there someone ? Is this ufficial support of ubuntu ? or have I wasted time to write only ?
[07:40] <Alvin> woah, the gaim website died
[07:40] <Alvin> x.x
[07:40] <evian> ok, that's beyond me, sorry
[07:40] <evian> good luck!
[07:40] <AdmiralSenn> heh
[07:40] <AdmiralSenn> it's beyond me too!
[07:40] <AdmiralSenn> but thanks
[07:41] <Alvin> apt-get fridge pie
[07:41] <evian> AdmiralSenn, did you try the e2fsck -b 8193 <device>
[07:41] <Alvin> >.>
[07:41] <AdmiralSenn> yeah
[07:41] <urob> How function this system of help ?
[07:41] <evian> ok
[07:41] <AstralJava> Alvin: Which card is it? Have you checked whether it can be found on this website: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/ ?
[07:41] <AdmiralSenn> but that number is supposed to be the block it starts on and I don't know that
[07:41] <Alvin> AstralJava: Not sure, I'll check in a moment
[07:42] <erUSUL> urob: i do not have a dsl modem i can not help you... the error message you pasted said something about modules not loaded try loading them
[07:42] <PShivers> Urob: here you can ask anyone about anything, this is non-official and noone will be respinsible if you screw your PC
[07:42] <Alvin> It's an old PC, 6 years old
[07:42] <bluekey> is their a file browser like nautilus but that has a "address" bar
[07:42] <XHK> I finally got itnernet in linux!!!
[07:42] <AdmiralSenn> now to see if I can find the first block in that partition
[07:42] <XHK> woohooooo
[07:43] <Alvin> bluekey: go to edit > prefs
[07:43] <XHK> Thx to the guy who told me 'poff' command lol
[07:43] <dmacdonald111> XHK: Well done! Don't suppose you have a wireless network?
[07:43] <hans> looks like nonsens to me
[07:43] <B_166-ER-X> XHK,  wasnt that hard for me, i just booted after my first instal..
[07:43] <Alvin> then click.. behaviour
[07:43] <XHK> :P
[07:43] <Alvin> and check `Always open in browser windows'.
[07:43] <Alvin> got that, bluekey?
[07:44] <sambagirl> is there help in configuring say a domain for your computer like say i wanting to do nomadraidio.net at a pc on my network is there help setting up server thing?
[07:44] <Alvin> sambagirl: you need to buy a domain
[07:44] <sambagirl> i have domains
[07:44] <Alvin> ah
[07:44] <sambagirl> but i want to host them at home
[07:44] <Alvin> then check how to forward the Ip to it
[07:44] <sambagirl> so i can do my raido streaming at home see?
[07:44] <Alvin> IP*
[07:44] <urob> PShiver :  ok ......
[07:44] <sambagirl> ahh
[07:45] <sambagirl> so you forward the ip that is how you do it.
[07:45] <sambagirl> aha
[07:45] <Alvin> yeah
[07:45] <Alvin> but is your IP static?
[07:45] <urob> PSHiver: do another UBUNTU !!!!
[07:45] <valzaq> or you can make a virtual host in apache
[07:45] <Alvin> if it's dnamic like mine, no luck
[07:45] <bluekey> Alvin: one sec testing
[07:45] <Alvin> dymanic
[07:45] <Alvin> ok
[07:45] <AdmiralSenn> *dynamic
[07:45] <XHK> Can i get somehow to my windows files from linux?
[07:45] <sambagirl> that is what i want a virtual host
[07:45] <Alvin> haha
[07:45] <Alvin> yeah, dynamic =P
[07:45] <nalioth> !tell XHK about windowsdrives
[07:46] <valzaq> u should configure a dns server like mydns
[07:46] <PShivers> Urob ??
[07:46] <XHK> ty
[07:46] <Alvin> XHK: yeah, you could host it on a website, shove it on a pen drive or burn it to a DVD/CD(s)
[07:46] <sambagirl> yes dynamic unless i buy static from isp
[07:46] <AdmiralSenn> bah
[07:46] <AdmiralSenn> have to boot into windows now
[07:46] <AdmiralSenn> >_<
[07:46] <sambagirl> yes i remember mydns from many years ago
[07:46] <erUSUL> sambagirl: what to do depends... do you have a public static ip or dinamic one
[07:46] <bluekey> Alvin: that is checked already..
[07:46] <Alvin> oh
[07:46] <Alvin> restart nautilus
[07:46] <sambagirl> dynamic
[07:46] <bluekey> i mean a address bar i can like type in where i want to go to
[07:46] <bluekey> instead of having to browse using the icons
[07:47] <Alvin> ok
[07:47] <Alvin> wait..
[07:47] <sambagirl> it changes i guess eventhough it is always connected to the thing you know.
[07:47] <atha> bluekey: hit ctrl-l and you've got an address bar in nautilus
[07:47] <sunshine> nal li try it again what the deb website
[07:47] <Alvin> view > location bar
[07:47] <urob> erUSUL: my second modem is ethernet !!
[07:47] <sambagirl> another thing is that my workspace on bototm of my task bar just dissapeared. i want it back but it's gone now forever.
[07:48] <Alvin> right click > add
[07:48] <Alvin> find workspace manager
[07:48] <nalioth> sunshine: hoary or breezy?
[07:48] <snorks> find a way to start gnome-panel'
[07:48] <snorks> i dont think that's smar
[07:48] <snorks> err
[07:48] <snorks> find a way to start gnome-panel
[07:48] <atha> urob: it seems that you have a working ethernet interface already?
[07:48] <bluekey> atha: that works good. any way to have it always start like that
[07:49] <snorks> you have no idea how much i have to read
[07:49] <snorks> wrong channel
[07:49] <Alvin> bluekey: view > location bar
[07:49] <erUSUL> urob: so? what do you mean?
[07:49] <sunshine> breezy
[07:49] <urob> atha: yes and on other distro is all ok !!
[07:49] <nalioth> sunshine: http://giannaros.org/tor/bt/
[07:49] <Alvin> lala
[07:49] <Alvin> I'm bored, gcc exploded
[07:50] <erUSUL> sambagirl: add another one. right click on the bar and add
[07:50] <Alvin> o.o
[07:50] <cyrille> ou
[07:50] <Alvin> erUSUL: I said already >_>
[07:50] <bluekey> alvin: location bar is open. ctrl+L makes it so the buttons showing where you are change to a address thing you can type in
[07:50] <ibuntu> Anyone here know if gtkpod is any good?
[07:51] <urob> erUSUL: it means that i don't succeedin installing two anybody
[07:51] <bluekey> but every time i start nautilus i have to CTRL+L again
[07:51] <Alvin> hmm
[07:51] <cyrille> coucou
[07:51] <sambagirl> wow your brillliant
[07:51] <sambagirl> it worked
[07:51] <Alvin> me?
[07:51] <Alvin> o.o
[07:51] <sambagirl> oui
[07:51] <Alvin> bash: bored
[07:51] <erUSUL> urob: for the ethernet one have you tried pppoeconf?
[07:52] <Alvin> ubuntu is awesome on my old '98
[07:52] <Alvin> <3 some african programmer dudes
[07:52] <atha> bluekey: I think i found a solution
[07:52] <urob> erUSUL:obviousli yes !!!!!
[07:52] <sambagirl> 3 african programmer did this software? wow. salut!
[07:52] <Alvin> no?
[07:53] <Alvin> it was a very misleading joke
[07:53] <erUSUL> sambagirl: ???
[07:53] <sambagirl> umm
[07:53] <Alvin> yay, gcc = work
[07:53] <sambagirl> jooke?
[07:53] <atha> bluekey: run gconf-editor, open apps-nautilus-preferences, check always_use_location_entry
[07:53] <Alvin> joke
[07:53] <bluekey> thankee you
[07:53] <erUSUL> urob: i have a 56k connection and can ony offer limited help here... sorry
[07:53] <sambagirl> you not think 3 african programmers existing?\
[07:53] <evian> I found the answer to how to make my printer print high quality, in case anyone cares. I switched the driver from hpjis to gimp-print.
[07:54] <dabear> hi, I desperately need a net limiter for ubuntu (e.g. restricting the system to download at a max of 30kbps), is this possible?
[07:54] <evian> and now its perfect
[07:54] <Alvin> no
[07:54] <Alvin> im just saying, ubuntu is not made by africans as far as I know
[07:54] <urob> erUSUL: ok heartfull Thanks
[07:54] <sambagirl> you think there are not 3 african programmers in the world?
[07:54] <Alvin> of course there are
[07:54] <sambagirl> ah
[07:55] <sambagirl> do you konw Theodore and Simon? Dave? :)
[07:55] <bbwolf> alvinnn!
[07:55] <Alvin> o.o?
[07:55] <dabear>  hi, I desperately need a net limiter for ubuntu (e.g. restricting the system to download at a max of 30kbps), is this possible?
[07:55] <bbwolf> erm-- not you-- i was referring to the 3rd chipmunk
[07:56] <sambagirl> heh
[07:56] <sskk> How do I add a new path to a $PATH variable for all users, including root? (sound elementary, but I can't make it work from /etc/profile)
[07:56] <erUSUL> dabear: maybe with traffic-shaper?
[07:56] <dabear> i'' try it now
[07:56] <sambagirl> ok so i need to do a prepreation thing first. 1st i need to setup apache
[07:56] <sambagirl> then mydns
[07:56] <Alvin> yea
[07:56] <revarc> Could anyone help me with installing nvidia drivers for and fx5900 on breezy?  I've tried using the nvidia-glx that comes with breezy, and have also compiled from the official nvidia linux drivers (both 7676 and 7667) nothing has worked.
[07:56] <sambagirl> then i can try to access or ask someone to access
[07:56] <Alvin> what OS are you running? ubuntu?
[07:56] <Alvin> its not that easy
[07:56] <ubuntu> hi
[07:57] <Alvin> 'lo ubuntu
[07:57] <evian> sskk, perhaps in a boot script?
[07:57] <dabear> hm,  traffic-shaper isn't in the repos...
[07:57] <ubuntu> sorry bout the nick im on kubuntu livecd, im usually gazam
[07:57] <Alvin> ah, ok
[07:57] <ubuntu> being on kde makes me appreciate gnome much more :P
[07:57] <Alvin> KDE is crap on a stick.
[07:57] <ubuntu> agreed :D
[07:57] <WinZ> ))
[07:57] <erUSUL> dabear: is a kernel module google around a bit
[07:57] <Alvin> <3 GNOME
[07:58] <Alvin> K = lose
[07:58] <chris__> hello people;)
[07:58] <ubuntu> :P couldnt say it better myself
[07:58] <egoplastiek> i'm using amsn, i'm trying to dock it, but it won't show up in the notification area
[07:58] <ubuntu> hey chris_
[07:58] <Alvin> hmm
[07:58] <egoplastiek> same with workpace (anti-rsi)
[07:58] <Alvin> hi chris
[07:58] <egoplastiek> what can i do about it
[07:58] <egoplastiek> ?
[07:58] <bluekey> is their any way to get a xerox multifunction printer thats on the network to work without linux drivers for it?
[07:58] <havoc> dabear: 'tc', which is used by traffic shapers such as wondershaper (packaged as wshaper or something)
[07:59] <ubuntu> egoplastiek, i was testing out amsn yesterday, you need to go into its preferences and set it to show in the task bar
[07:59] <nalioth> havoc: not 'trickle' ?
[07:59] <sambagirl> is apache already turned on?
[07:59] <havoc> nalioth: I run wondershaper (wshaperx), which is justa  script which calls 'tc'
[07:59] <revarc> (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA graphics device!
[07:59] <revarc> (EE) NVIDIA(0):  *** Aborting ***
[07:59] <revarc> (II) UnloadModule: "nvidia"
[07:59] <revarc> (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
[07:59] <Alvin> do people use root here? or user accounts?
[08:00] <nalioth> revarc: no pasting
[08:00] <revarc> sorry
[08:00] <nalioth> !tell Alvin about root
[08:00] <egoplastiek> ubuntu, which part of the settings? (bad ui design ;) )
[08:00] <sambagirl> wow bit turrent is here
[08:00] <evian> bluekey, perhaps you could use network printing via another machine with another OS on the network?
[08:00] <sylvu> hi
[08:00] <SuperNinjaKitty> Alvin i use a user acct about 98% of the time
[08:00] <nalioth> linner: howdy
[08:00] <sambagirl> wow this softwear has it all except for petro for my xjs-v12
[08:00] <Alvin> ubotu: uhh, noes?
[08:00] <ubotu> Alvin: What?
[08:00] <Alvin> you can use root too
[08:01] <sambagirl> how do you turn on apache?
[08:01] <ubuntu> egoplastiek, i know :P but unfortunately i dont have it on this system so cannot guide you through it perfectly, but search for something to do with taskbar or starterbar etc. sorry
[08:01] <linner> nalioth:  hey :)
[08:01] <havoc> sambagirl: /etc/init.d/apache start
[08:01] <SuperNinjaKitty> Alvin there is no reason to use root as your day to day use
[08:01] <bluekey> evian: is it possible to print through my windows  xp pro box from ubuntu?
[08:01] <sambagirl> thans Major Havoc
[08:01] <egoplastiek> ubuntu, in the tools menu there is a submenu 'docking', is that what you mean? that part is already configured
[08:02] <Alvin> SuperNinjaKitty: i know
[08:02] <Alvin> I just wondered
[08:02] <ubuntu> :P it probably is, maybe i can get amsn on this system i will try, although installing software to a live cd is not so good :/
[08:02] <Alvin> blarp
[08:02] <evian> bluekey: I was thinking that it was, however now I only see the reverse situation described on the wiki
[08:02] <SuperNinjaKitty> most linux users i know wouldnt think of using root all the time, bad policy
[08:02] <egoplastiek> by the way, i was mentioning that workpace also won't dock
[08:02] <sambagirl> havoc saying no directory of file
[08:03] <evian> bluekey: still I sorta suspect that it is possible
[08:03] <Alvin> SuperNinjaKitty: yeah
[08:03] <bluekey> ok
[08:03] <Alvin> but.. why?
[08:03] <ubuntu> egoplastiek... i cant get amsn at the moment, and i do not know anything about workplace, so sorry about that... I will search the amsn website maybe i can find something
[08:03] <sylvu> hi everybody
[08:03] <havoc> sambagirl: you're sure you have apache installed?  I don't think it is by default
[08:03] <sylvu> pls help me
[08:03] <Alvin> sylvu: yes?
[08:03] <sambagirl> ahah
[08:03] <sambagirl> ahh
[08:03] <sambagirl> ok
[08:03] <erUSUL> sambagirl: maybe it is not yet installed
[08:03] <egoplastiek> ubuntu, it's workpace. just fyi. maybe you'll like it. to prevent RSI.
[08:03] <sambagirl> no it is not installed
[08:04] <sambagirl> sorry
[08:04] <sambagirl> ;)
[08:04] <havoc> sambagirl: no problem :)
[08:04] <ubuntu> egoplastiek, i will look it up thanks
[08:04] <egoplastiek> thanks for your help ubuntu, i'll continue the googlesearch :)
[08:04] <sylvu>  i want to install asterisk in ubuntu...is it possible?
[08:04] <havoc> sylvu: everything is possible ;)
[08:04] <sambagirl> where would i install it from archive manager?
[08:04] <evian> bluekey: I should think that at the worst, you could print to a postscript file and use something like VNC to operate the winxp machine to print it
[08:04] <Alvin> havoc: took the words out of my mouth
[08:04] <sambagirl> no add/remove programs
[08:04] <havoc> sambagirl: "apt-get install apache1" is one way
[08:05] <evian> bluekey: but there probably is an easier setup
[08:05] <havoc> sambagirl: or you can use a GUI software manager like 'aptitude'
[08:05] <sambagirl> i try that fro breezy lol no such luck
[08:05] <sambagirl> let me try
[08:05] <Alvin> sambagirl: applications > system tools > add/rm programs
[08:05] <atha> bluekey: just share the printer on XP computer and use samba to print from linux
[08:05] <havoc> sambagirl: under the System menu somewhere in either gnome or kde
[08:05] <ubuntu> no problem egoplastiek, i gotta go for a while but i will be back, your gonna have to link me to workplace later, it is a very general word to google search for :P
[08:05] <havoc> Alvin: thanx
[08:06] <revarc> Could anyone help me with installing nvidia drivers for and fx5900 on breezy?  I've tried using the nvidia-glx that comes with breezy, and have also compiled from the official nvidia linux drivers (both 7676 and 7667) nothing has worked.  (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA graphics device! (EE) NVIDIA(0):  *** Aborting *** (II) UnloadModule: "nvidia" (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
[08:06] <havoc> I'm not actually on my breezy workstation right now
[08:06] <theoo> Hi can you help me config my laptop that was just installed with ubuntu. the installation progress can't automatically defect my ethernet card ... so now I need to manually config or install a new driver or something ..
[08:06] <puff> hm, can somebody advise me on changing screen resolution?
[08:06] <sambagirl> i did apt-get install apache it is working now
[08:06] <havoc> revarc: a lot of xorg stuff in breezy is still messed up
[08:06] <sambagirl> thanks then i try that install thingy
[08:06] <Alvin> puff: system > prefs > screen res
[08:07] <sambagirl> /etc/init.d/apache/ apache start
[08:07] <sambagirl> something like that i th9nk
[08:07] <havoc> sambagirl:  /etc/init.d/apache start
[08:07] <WinZ> /etc/init.d/apache start
[08:07] <puff> Alvin: Yeah, I'm trying that... it causes weirdness, the screen gets displayed with odd shadows on parts of it, blocks of it moved aorund etc.
[08:07] <havoc> sambagirl: <tab> completion is your friend
[08:07] <sambagirl> thanks major havoc\
[08:08] <evian> bluekey: take a look at this: http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2005/01/13/lnxckbk_samba.html
[08:08] <evian> apparently it is possible with samba
[08:08] <puff> Alvin: It worked fine last month, I reinstalled hoary last week because I was having kernel flakiness, and now it does this...
[08:08] <revarc> So I guess the best solution to my problem is is to wait until xorg is better and continue to use nv instead of nvidia?
[08:08] <havoc> puff you could try dpkg-reconfigure on the x server
[08:08] <B_166-ER-X> hi, i would need some help to install / configure my nvidia drivers
[08:09] <erUSUL> ubotu: nvidia
[08:09] <ubotu> methinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[08:11] <sambagirl> should i restart services?
[08:11] <sambagirl> havoc?
[08:11] <sambagirl> havoc should i restart services?
[08:11] <rontidi> hi folks
[08:11] <sambagirl> hi rontidi
[08:11] <Eppu> Hey, anyone know where the opengl manual pages are in Breezy? Can't seem to find the proper package to install.
[08:11] <theoo> Hi can you help me config my laptop that was just installed with ubuntu. the installation progress can't automatically defect my ethernet card ... so now I need to manually config or install a new driver or something ..
[08:11] <rontidi> a newbie here
[08:11] <havoc> sambagirl: what services?
[08:11] <sambagirl> haha
[08:12] <sambagirl> it says inetd samba rsync apache2 cupsys postfix cron
[08:12] <evian> I have solved about 10 problems recently with the help of you good folks. I just have one left: skype and sound won't play together yet
[08:12] <havoc> sambagirl: ah, sure, restart them
[08:12] <crimsun> evian, that's unsolvable currently.
[08:12] <sambagirl> oh
[08:12] <havoc> sambagirl: it's an install script asking you this?
[08:12] <evian> crimsun: oh
[08:12] <evian> crimsun: well thanks for trying with me before
[08:13] <sambagirl> so apache is starting or something?
[08:13] <crimsun> evian, well, let me amend that: It's unsolvable without much hacking.
[08:13] <evian> crimsun: ok, I was going to ask, because, sky was working for me under mandrake on this same machine
[08:13] <evian> skype
[08:13] <ryufreak> anyone help me, i can't get my x800xl pci-e card to work
[08:14] <sunshine> now that w32codec is installed it keep disconnected my internet browser
[08:14] <evian> crimsun: would you be so kind as to tell me the root problem?
[08:14] <erUSUL> !tell ryufreak about ati
[08:14] <crimsun> evian, err, do you mean Skype doesn't work at all?
[08:15] <sunshine> and my mplayer isn't working
[08:15] <evian> crimsun: it launches, but I can't get it to make a sound
[08:15] <evian> crimsun: echo123 test is silent
[08:15] <evian> evian: but other K sound apps like Kaffeine, work
[08:17] <ryufreak> how do i find out what kernel version i have?
[08:17] <evian> crimsun: but other K sound appls like Kaffeine, work
[08:18] <evian> crimsun: I was going to give you the output of amixer last night after deleting asound.conf, but I had to run to make an appointment
[08:18] <nalioth> ryufreak: in a terminal, type "uname -a"
[08:18] <Balduran> hello
[08:19] <theoo> Hi can you help me config my laptop that was just installed with ubuntu. the installation progress can't automatically defect my ethernet card ... so now I need to manually config or install a new driver or something ..
[08:20] <puff> havoc: interesting...
[08:20] <evian> maybe I should try some other internet phone than skype. its just that skype seemed to have the best quality. any recommendations for competitors?
[08:20] <ryufreak> thanks nalioth and erUSUL
[08:21] <ryufreak> now how do i get my w32codec to work?
[08:21] <puff> havoc: How disruptive is "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", will I have to exit and restart applications, etc?
[08:21] <havoc> puff: you'll have to restart the xserver
[08:21] <Dr_Willis>  well if you want the changes to actually take affect.. yes. :P
[08:21] <havoc> puff: all it does is re-write xorg.conf
[08:21] <puff> havoc: Will that in turn require restarting emacs, mozilla, etc.?
[08:22] <Dr_Willis> you may (should) backup your existing/working xorg.conf.
[08:22] <crimsun> evian, sorry, I'm juggling work and irc, so give me a sec to read scrollback, please.
[08:22] <havoc> you can run it from a term in X, but you won't see a change until you restart X
[08:22] <puff> I.e. is this something I can try right now, or should I wait until I'm at a good stopping point?
[08:22] <havoc> puff: wait, since restarting X means "logging out" and then back in
[08:22] <evian> crimsun: sure, just ignore the part where I was losing it and started talking to myself :)
[08:22] <crimsun> evian, ok, so you're using KDE?
[08:22] <amorph> is it possible to update ubuntu to kernel 2.6.13 and to gnome 2.12 ?
[08:22] <sunshine> im tryin to access a site that requested me to have w32 codecs but now everytime i go to the website it disconnect my innternet browser
[08:22] <evian> crimsun, no
[08:23] <evian> crimsun, but when it was working in mandrake I had both KDE and gnome installed
[08:23] <puff> havoc: Thanks, I'll try that later then.
[08:23] <havoc> puff: np :)
[08:24] <evian> crimsun: perhaps if I installed kubuntu it would work, but I don't want to mess up ubuntu, I don't know how well they play together
[08:24] <chop> help problem whle installing warcraft 3 (use wine)
[08:24] <havoc> evian: installing kde won't mess up anything
[08:24] <chop> help problem whle installing warcraft 3 (use wine)
[08:24] <porko> hola
[08:24] <chop> help problem whle installing warcraft 3 (use wine)
[08:24] <porko> hay alguno de habla hispana?
[08:24] <havoc> kick
[08:25] <evian> havoc: thanks, do you think it might help skype to work?
[08:25] <chop> help problem whle installing warcraft 3 (use wine)
[08:25] <NoUse> chop you need to be more specfic to get help
[08:25] <cas> Hi, I'm looking for a ftp client that supports TLS/SSL. A Graphical frontend would be nice. Does anyone knows one?
[08:25] <havoc> evian: no clue, I've never used skype
[08:25] <chop> [LethAL] : help
[08:25] <evian> ok
[08:25] <chop> still stuck
[08:25] <[LethAL] > wHAT WAS YOUR PROBLEM?
[08:25] <[LethAL] > Ooops
[08:25] <tear> Hi, I just switched screen and Now I can't set resolution to more then 1024
[08:25] <chop> [LethAL] : wait
[08:26] <tear> I know the screen handles more
[08:26] <[LethAL] > tear, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:26] <sunshine> what do i do
[08:26] <porko> how can i change the resoltion of my screen??
[08:26] <[LethAL] > porko, System, Preferences, Screen resolution
[08:26] <porko> to 1280x800
[08:27] <crimsun> evian, does sound work normally outside of Skype?
[08:27] <evian> yes!
[08:27] <porko> ok, but that resolution no exist
[08:27] <[LethAL] > !tell crimsun about skype
[08:27] <crimsun> [LethAL] , no, I'm helping evian, but thanks.
[08:27] <havoc> porko: then "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", and then restart X
[08:27] <[LethAL] > Oh... :P
[08:27] <evian> thanks LethAL but I already know about that stuff
[08:27] <porko> ok
[08:28] <[LethAL] > My bad... I'm asleep
[08:28] <havoc> busy here today
[08:28] <BurgerMann> Why's the ubuntu cd sometimes needed to install certian things?.. like for instance gcc?
[08:28] <havoc> BurgerMann: edit apt prefs
[08:28] <[LethAL] > BurgerMann, because they haven't been updated since you installed
[08:29] <BurgerMann> oh
[08:29] <havoc> BurgerMann: /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:29] <sambagirl> havoc it says starting webserver apache i
[08:29] <[LethAL] > BurgerMann, Yes, you should remove your CD
[08:29] <havoc> BurgerMann: comment out the line for the CD, 1st one I think
[08:29] <BurgerMann> [LethAL]  & havoc: thx both :)
[08:29] <heatxsink> any problems with this latest update in breezy/
[08:29] <heatxsink> ?
[08:29] <havoc> sambagirl: that's what you wanted, right?
[08:30] <sambagirl> yes so now how do i aceess the panel or configuratoin thingy?
[08:30] <moparfan90> is there a package for americas army?
[08:30] <[LethAL] > moparfan90, google
[08:30] <havoc> sambagirl: I'm not sure what ubuntu comes with as far as a GUI apache configuration tool
[08:30] <sambagirl> oh no
[08:30] <crimsun> BurgerMann, because you still have the deb-cdrom listing in /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:30] <crimsun> BurgerMann, comment it out and update
[08:30] <moparfan90> no a ubuntu package
[08:30] <crimsun> evian, what is the default audio sink configured as in System> Preferences> Multimedia Systems Selector?
[08:31] <[LethAL] > moparfan90, If it's there, yes, if not, no
[08:31] <havoc> crimsun: we already told him :)
[08:31] <BurgerMann> Ohh that's so sweeet!
[08:31] <sambagirl> brb
[08:31] <Belutz> sambagirl, you might want to install webmin then
[08:31] <Eppu> Anyone know where the opengl manual pages are in Breezy? I have them on my hoary system, but not on breezy.
[08:31] <BurgerMann> SWEET!
[08:31] <sambagirl> do i do apt-get webmin ?
[08:32] <moparfan90> well i was looking for a 'yes' or 'no' if you dont know then you shouldnt say anything
[08:32] <nalioth> Eppu: look in file:///usr/share/docs/
[08:32] <s_wart> anyone know the secret to getting vncserver (or tightvncserver) to work on breezy?
[08:32] <[LethAL] > sambagirl, search for it in Synaptic, there's a lot of related packages
[08:32] <evian> crimsun, they are both set to ALSA
[08:32] <sambagirl> how do i do that?
[08:32] <[LethAL] > sambagirl, no gui?
[08:32] <Belutz> sambagirl, yes, and you could search more with 'webmin' as a keyword, there's a lot of plugin for webmin
[08:32] <Eppu> nalioth: nope, not there. Just some python-opengl pages
[08:32] <sunshine> can someone please help me fix this i've download w32codec from dpkg and wen i go to a website that requested it it disconnected my internt browser
[08:33] <s_wart> my 1.log file is completely empty. I modified the script to use xorg.conf, but still no luck
[08:33] <havoc> [LethAL] : tell her to menu path to get to synaptic
[08:33] <sambagirl> what is synaptic?
[08:33] <evian> crimsun: I actually just heard skype make a ring sound, on the echo test but still no voices
[08:33] <Eppu> nalioth: I also tried apt-file search, but it didn't find them either on Breezy. On hoary they show up fine
[08:33] <nalioth> ubotu tell sambagirl about synaptic
[08:33] <havoc> nalioth: thanx :)
[08:33] <BurgerMann> hmn. It says that gcc cannot create executables ? :S
[08:33] <nalioth> Eppu: not sure then
[08:33] <concept10> How do I remove some of the default packages in breezy without removing the gnome-desktop?  for ex.  evolution, rhythmbox, serpentine
[08:33] <havoc> I'm runnign KDE, not gnome, so I can't tell her the path
[08:34] <evian> crimsun: but now the second time I try the echo test after launching, skype says "problem with sound service"
[08:34] <havoc> synaptic is jsut a gui package amnager like aptitude?
[08:34] <sunshine> java is doing the same thing
[08:34] <puff> Interesting, the ntop package appears to have permission problems.
[08:34] <[LethAL] > havoc, tes
[08:34] <sunshine> nal help please
[08:34] <crimsun> evian, ok. That's probably due to a program hogging the sound device.
[08:34] <havoc> [LethAL] : ok
[08:34] <sambagirl> what is aptitude?
[08:34] <[LethAL] > yes*
[08:34] <sambagirl> where i find these things?
[08:34] <sambagirl> find
[08:34] <evian> crimsun: oh ok that's interesting
[08:34] <sunshine> someone help please
[08:34] <nalioth> sambagirl: a console frontend to apt-get
[08:35] <nalioth> !tell sunshine about cli
[08:35] <havoc> synaptic is the default apt gui in gnome?
[08:35] <concept10> Anyone know how to get the gnome-desktop package to _remained installed_
[08:35] <havoc> (gnome on ubuntu that is)
[08:35] <Eppu> It might be related to the mesa/opengl reorganization. In hoary the pages are provided by xlibmesa-gl-dev but that package does not exist in breezy.
[08:35] <[LethAL] > havoc, yes
[08:35] <sambagirl> grr
[08:35] <sambagirl> nothing simple
[08:36] <havoc> sambagirl: look for synaptic in the menus, likely under System somewhere
[08:36] <desidaerius504> I have a question about package compatibility on Ubuntu. Can you install any package compiled for Debian on an Ubuntu system, provided you have all the depencies resolved?
[08:36] <BurgerMann> sambagirl: why not?
[08:36] <chop> [LethAL] : im back
[08:36] <[LethAL] > havoc, there's also the intuitively named 'Add/Remove Programs'
[08:36] <kennethlove> or pop open a terminal and type 'sudo synaptic'
[08:36] <NoUse> sambagirl whats complicated about synaptic
[08:36] <havoc> [LethAL] : heh, cool
[08:36] <kennethlove> desidaerius504: you should be able to, yeah.
[08:36] <sambagirl> i wondeirng whree this webmin iis
[08:36] <sunshine> nal i dont understand what this is for
[08:36] <BurgerMann> What's "C compiler default output file name" ? :s
[08:36] <havoc> NoUse: I don't think she's faound it yet
[08:36] <chop> [LethAL] : stuck with wine
[08:36] <[LethAL] > havoc, Doesn't have much itn it though
[08:36] <sambagirl> where in gods name is SYNAPTIC?
[08:36] <sambagirl> www.synaptic.com?
[08:36] <chop> [LethAL] : try to install war3 with wine
[08:36] <NoUse> sambagirl ubotu messaged you with instructions
[08:36] <sambagirl> ok
[08:36] <sambagirl> thanks
[08:36] <NoUse> !tell sambagirl synaptic
[08:36] <[LethAL] > sambagirl, System, Administration,. Synaptic
[08:37] <ryufreak> my xorg.config file is read only, how do i get permission to edit it?
[08:37] <nalioth> sunshine: where did you d/l the files to?
[08:37] <NoUse> !tell sambagirl about synaptic
[08:37] <BurgerMann> heh
[08:37] <havoc> ryufreak: sudo
[08:37] <chop> [LethAL] : but it it need cd even when i crack it
[08:37] <ryufreak> sudo -apt-get xorg.config ?
[08:37] <[LethAL] > chop, try the CVS version of Cedega
[08:37] <kennethlove> if i wanted to go up to gnome 2.12 before warty comes out (i know, i know, just a week or two), any easy way to do that?
[08:37] <havoc> ryufreak: you editing it manually or with dpkg-reconfigure?
[08:37] <sunshine> http://giannaros.org/tor/bt/ the website you gave me
[08:37] <[LethAL] > !tell chop about cedega
[08:37] <ryufreak> manually..?
[08:38] <puff> http://pastebin.com/377050
[08:38] <logan001101> thanks guys
[08:38] <s_wart> anyone have any advice on breezy vnc, or is the easy answer to roll back to hoary if I really need it?
[08:38] <havoc> ryufreak: what are you trying to do?
[08:38] <logan001101> [LethAL] : logan = chop
[08:38] <evian> s_wart: vnc doesn't work in breezy?
[08:38] <sunshine> it seem like a waste the files just collaspe the internet browser
[08:38] <ryufreak> edit the xorg.config file to read drivers for my x800xl
[08:38] <[LethAL] > logan001101, [LethAL]  = away
[08:38] <Dangly> how can i use apt-get to search for a package I would like?
[08:38] <s_wart> evian: not for me. it quietly fails. been trying to get it to work since the weekend
[08:38] <havoc> ryufreak: you don't use apt-get for that
[08:38] <logan001101> [LethAL] : :D
[08:38] <Eppu> s_wart: I haven't had any problems with vnc on breezy
[08:39] <Dangly> what do i use?
[08:39] <ryufreak> how do i open it so i can actually edit it?
[08:39] <evian> s_wart: oh I didn't know that
[08:39] <kennethlove> dangly - apt-get search <package name>
[08:39] <havoc> ryufreak: you know how to use vim?
[08:39] <ryufreak> havoc, no
[08:39] <havoc> hmm
[08:39] <logan001101> [LethAL] : so what can i do???
[08:39] <NoUse> kennethlove you mean apt-cache
[08:39] <s_wart> evian: I installed it using apt-get. maybe I am missing the user-friendly way of doing it
[08:39] <[LethAL] > logan001101, try it with cedega... like ubotu messaged you
[08:39] <logan001101> [LethAL] : ok
[08:40] <NoUse> dangly apt-cache search <keyword>
[08:40] <kennethlove> yeah.
[08:40] <ThJ> hey, what's the best and simplest way of telling apache to listen only on a certain IP?
[08:40] <havoc> ryufreak: sudu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf &
[08:40] <logan001101> [LethAL] : like ubotu messaged you --> what does it mean??
[08:40] <[LethAL] > logan001101, try the links he gave
[08:41] <havoc> ryufreak: be very careful not to save changes unless you're sure you know what you're doing though
[08:41] <ryufreak> havoc, i've already created a backup
[08:41] <havoc> ryufreak: smart man :)
[08:41] <Eppu> Thj: put BindAddress 127.0.0.1 in the config?
[08:41] <sskk> Has anybody experienced problems with the boot splash screen in the 5.10 prerelease?
[08:41] <[LethAL] > logan001101, On the second site, it says that RoC and tFT both work fine
[08:41] <desidaerius504> ryufreak, you may want to make a backup copy of xorg.conf
[08:41] <evian> crimsun: I gotta run to another appointment, thanks for trying to help me
[08:41] <evian> bye
[08:41] <desidaerius504> oops, didn't see that yet :-p
[08:42] <logan001101> [LethAL] : but
[08:42] <[LethAL] > ?
[08:42] <logan001101> [LethAL] : it needs CD
[08:42] <ThJ> Eppu: hm
[08:42] <logan001101> [LethAL] : even when i've cracked it
[08:42] <sambagirl> my msn works now :D
[08:42] <ryufreak> yeah, i have already made a copy desidaerius504 =x
[08:42] <sambagirl> haha
[08:42] <sambagirl> this is way cool
[08:42] <logan001101> [LethAL] : ok ill try again
[08:42] <[LethAL] > logan001101, The cedega wiki doesn't say it needs a no-cd crack
[08:42] <Zeke1> can someone help me to get my ati working
[08:42] <sunshine> nal what do i do now
[08:43] <havoc> !tell Zeke1 about ati
[08:43] <havoc> yay, got it right :)
[08:43] <nalioth> sunshine: where did you d/l the files to?
[08:44] <havoc> Zeke1: you get that?
[08:44] <s_wart> Eppu: the version of vncserver I have seems to assume XFree - is there a specific version I should be using?
[08:44] <Dangly> where can i find acroread for ubuntu 5.10 ?
[08:44] <tear> Is there anyway to override the reolution settings for ubuntu?
[08:44] <dpro\> Dangly, sudo apt-get install acroread
[08:45] <havoc> tear: "override"?
[08:45] <concept10> Dangly, or use the supplied application 'evince'
[08:45] <Dangly> cant find package acroread
[08:45] <sunshine> http://giannaros.org/tor/bt/ thew website u gave me
[08:46] <Dangly> is there a repo that has acroread 7.xx for 5.10?
[08:46] <nalioth> sunshine: where on YOUR box did you download TO ?
[08:46] <havoc> Dangly: you could just download and install it yourself from adobe.com
[08:47] <Eppu> s_wart: hmm, I haven't actually used the separate vncserver on breezy, just shared my gnome desktops. Do you really need a separate vnc display?
[08:47] <XHK> How do i install rpm file?
[08:47] <kennethlove> XHK: use alien
[08:47] <nalioth> XHK: what program do you want?
[08:48] <nalioth> XHK: rpms can cause problems
[08:48] <XHK> Hmn
[08:48] <s_wart> Eppu: the breezy machine is upstairs and I'm down here on the laptop with only console access
[08:48] <XHK> how can i install tar then
[08:48] <Lars_G> nalioth: Anything ending in PMS can cause trouble
[08:48] <s_wart> I can go upstairs if I need to but that room is kitted out as a guest room :)
[08:48] <havoc> XHK: you should already hav tar
[08:48] <nalioth> XHK: most tar files have readmes or other instructions in them
[08:48] <XHK> mhh ok
[08:49] <XHK> But arent rpms easier to isntall?
[08:49] <havoc> doh, install a tar *file* :)
[08:49] <Lars_G> XHK: tar is default in an ubuntu install (meaning, it should aready be there).
[08:49] <XplOzIon> can any tell me a pretty good HOWTO for Postfix please? PM me please
[08:49] <tristanmike> XHK, try to find a .deb if you can
[08:49] <nalioth> XHK: this is not redhat. it is ubuntu. ubuntu uses debs
[08:49] <Eppu> s_wart: only console? Are you trying to use some special svgalib client or something?
[08:49] <havoc> XplOzIon: http://www.postfix.org/
[08:49] <XHK> ok
[08:49] <Lars_G> XHK: Only in RPM based system (Redhat, FC, and Mandriva). Else debs are better for you.
[08:49] <XHK> how do i isntall deb then?
[08:49] <havoc> XplOzIon: look at their docs, many howtos there
[08:49] <nalioth> XHK: if you tell us the program you want, we can advise a non problematic method of installation
[08:49] <Lars_G> XHK: And learning to compile a source will be a plus for the future.
[08:49] <tristanmike> XHK, sudo dpkg -i <file>
[08:49] <s_wart> Eppu: no, I'm not running ubuntu on the laptop, I'm just connecting via ssh
[08:49] <Lars_G> XHK: sudo dpkg -i <file>
[08:50] <Lars_G> tristanmike: You have a batch of tiotimoline?
[08:50] <ecki> hello
[08:50] <tristanmike> Lars_G, tiotimoline?
[08:50] <Eppu> s_wart: Ah, but you have graphical system on the laptop? In that case you could just share your breezy desktop and use any vnc client to access it
[08:50] <Lars_G> tristanmike: Sci-fi joke, I meant you traveled into the future to copy my line before I typed it.
[08:50] <sunshine> home
[08:51] <logan001101> im living for dying :-O
[08:51] <logan001101> im living for dying :-O
[08:51] <XHK> Anyway, will the xmms come with ubuntu install?
[08:51] <tristanmike> Lars_G, lol, I like Sci-fi, just never heard that term :P
[08:51] <s_wart> Eppu: ah, I think that's the "user friendly" option I'm missing :)
[08:51] <kennethlove> XHK: yeah
[08:51] <sunshine> home/sunshine/ file.deb
[08:51] <XHK> But i cant find it?
[08:51] <logan001101> this is the gap between hell and heaven ooooooaaaaaaaaooooooooooooaaaaaaaaa
[08:51] <nalioth> sunshine: open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg -i name_of_file.deb"
[08:51] <Eppu> s_wart: Sharing the desktop can be enabled from System->Preferences->Remote Desktop
[08:51] <Absenth> hola.
[08:51] <Lars_G> tristanmike: Tiotimoline is a ficticious element invented by Isaac Asimov, he wrote a complete scientific essay on the substance, it's a substance SO soluble in water, that if you intend to dissolve it in water, it'll travel thorough time to the point in which you will dissolve it.
[08:51] <XHK> Where is XMMS?
[08:52] <XHK> in applications there isnt
[08:52] <Lars_G> XHK: /usr/bin
[08:52] <kennethlove> XHK: applications -> sound & video -> xmms
[08:52] <s_wart> Eppu: thanks, I'll go upstairs and try that now :p
[08:52] <tristanmike> Lars_G, ahhh, Asimov, I unfortunatly haven't read any of his work :(
[08:52] <XHK> ther eare ionly music and cd player :S
[08:52] <TimeWave> I am running ubuntu on a thinkpad 600e. The DHCP recognizes and assigns an ip, but it has trouble connecting. It is connecting through an older pcmcia card. Do I need to change the dhcp settings or the settings for the pcmcia?
[08:52] <havoc> Asimov rules
[08:52] <XplOzIon> havoc: any site with differents HOWTO's?
[08:52] <havoc> XplOzIon: not that I know of
[08:52] <kennethlove> XHK: open a terminal, type 'sudo apt-get install xmms'
[08:52] <XHK> ok ty
[08:52] <havoc> XplOzIon: they not have what you need?
[08:53] <Absenth> watching etherape is addictive.
[08:53] <Eppu> s_wart: hope it works. If that's your only display, it should be at machine:0
[08:53] <Absenth> expecially while using IRC, and gaim (connected to Y!, AIM, and MSN)
[08:53] <sunshine> it say it set up w43codec
[08:53] <XHK> Package xmms is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:53] <XHK> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[08:53] <XHK> is only available from another source
[08:53] <XHK> E: Package xmms has no installation candidate
[08:53] <sunshine> sorry it say it set up w32codec
[08:53] <nalioth> XHK: do not paste in here
[08:53] <XHK> sorry
[08:53] <nalioth> XHK: read the channel /topic
[08:54] <tristanmike> XHK, have you enabled repositories?
[08:54] <XHK> Hmn dont think so
[08:54] <Lars_G> XplOzIon: How-tos about what?
[08:54] <XplOzIon> havoc: Not really, there too confused howto's, and honestly since my born lenguage isnt english im having a hard time understanding em, and cant find what i need in spanish
[08:54] <tear> havoc, I can only set up to 1024 resolution and I now my new monitor handles more
[08:54] <kennethlove> will the breezy install CD work as an upgrade?
[08:54] <tristanmike> !tell XHK about repositories
[08:54] <havoc> XplOzIon: ah, sorry :(
[08:54] <Lars_G> XplOzIon: How-tos about what?
[08:54] <nalioth> ubotu: tell tear about fixres
[08:55] <havoc> Lars_G: postfix
[08:55] <Lars_G> hmmm ok
[08:55] <XplOzIon> yeah postfix
[08:55] <havoc> Lars_G: but he's looking for them in spacish preferably
[08:55] <bluekey> kennethlove: yes
[08:55] <kennethlove> bluekey: good to hear.
[08:55] <havoc> tear: what kind of card are you using?
[08:55] <havoc> tear: it's possible you are using the wrong driver
[08:55] <Lars_G> havoc: Yes I saw that
[08:55] <bluekey> kennethlove: u put the cd in and it asks u if you want to upgrade :-)
[08:56] <XplOzIon> havoc i can handle english, but damn, im confused, do you know about postfix?
[08:56] <tear> the driver for the card should be correct, the old monitor could use 1600 resolution
[08:56] <havoc> XplOzIon: I run it for ~200 domains :)
[08:56] <havoc> tear: what card?
[08:56] <kennethlove> bluekey: *evil chuckle* great.
[08:56] <tear> ATI Radeon 9700 PRO
[08:56] <tear> havoc,
[08:56] <havoc> XplOzIon: you may find help on #postfix
[08:57] <havoc> !tell tear about ati
[08:57] <logan001101> guys, how can i know how many disk space i used?
[08:57] <Lars_G> XplOzIon: do you need lots of help?
[08:57] <Lars_G> XplOzIon: I'm very busy right now, but I'll try to give you a hand, I'm used to postfix and I speak spanish.
[08:57] <Lars_G> XplOzIon: /msg me
[08:57] <havoc> tear: check the message from ubotu, I too had probs w/ my ATI Radeon 9200SE
[08:57] <XplOzIon> Lars_G thanks a lot man
[08:57] <Lars_G> np
[08:57] <sunshine> nal it say settin up w32codecs
[08:58] <havoc> XplOzIon: yeah, better to have Lars_G help, as I *don't* speak spanish :(
[08:58] <Lars_G> sunshine: There is a deb for w32codecs? where? I couldn't find it in multiverse
[08:58] <nalioth> sunshine: so let it continue (and my nick is nalioth)
[08:58] <nalioth> Lars_G: hoary or breezy?
[08:58] <Lars_G> nalioth: Hoary
[08:58] <havoc> tear: the flgrx driver should do the trick for you, it worked great for me
[08:58] <nalioth> Lars_G: http://www.giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/
[08:59] <Lars_G> nalioth: Arigato godaimazu
[08:59] <sunshine> sorry nalioth
[08:59] <s_wart> Eppu: it works better in the sense that now I get a gray screen with a please wait for desktop to load. should I be using tightvnc or something?
[09:00] <sunshine> it finsh
[09:00] <Eppu> s_wart: I don't think so. Have you logged in the desktop locally?
[09:01] <concept10> What is going on here.. I cant remove any of the default applications without removing the meta-package "ubuntu-desktop" Please someone give me some insight on this.
[09:01] <s_wart> Eppu: yes. I quit the client and tried connecting again, and it's just timing out now. where does it put the log file?
[09:01] <kennethlove> ubuntu-desktop started an anti-user movement, so it's being expunged.
[09:01] <sunshine> what do I do now
[09:01] <concept10> kennethlove, are you serious are joking?
[09:01] <nalioth> sunshine: watch movies and listen to music
[09:02] <Eppu> s_wart: You definitely do not need tightvnc, I'm using just the normal vncviewer. And I'm not sure it logs anything. Are you starting it from a terminal?
[09:02] <Eppu> s_wart: Also, are you sure that there are no firewalls between the systems?
[09:02] <kennethlove> concept10: sorry, forgot the sarcasm tag
[09:02] <sunshine> it doesnt work everytime i try it collaspe the internet browser
[09:03] <s_wart> Eppu no, I'm using the windows client. I don't have a firewall enabled on the windows machine. I've used vnc from here before when I had debian upstairs. does default breezy install include a firewall?
[09:03] <nalioth> sunshine: what are you trying to do?
[09:03] <Eppu> s_wart: No it doesn't. The gray green suggests a wrong display. Did you use the display number zero. As in address:0 ?
[09:04] <Zeke1> can someone help me with ati...i have followed the howto instructions and it still wont work..I have an x800
[09:04] <s_wart> Eppu: yes, but whatever process was giving me the gray screen before doesn't seem to be responding anymore
[09:05] <sunshine> well igot this website i go to and i try to watch there and it collaspe and the same with java i go to yahoo chat the browser collaspe
[09:05] <Eppu> s_wart: That's weird. The remote desktop sharing should work, as long as you are actually logged in the desktop locally. It just shared that same desktop with remote users.
[09:05] <Eppu> s_wared: I mean shares
[09:06] <nalioth> sunshine: perhaps it's a browser problem
[09:06] <s_wart> Eppu: I had it working before with hoary. I wasn't crazy about the shared desktop (I really want regular vncserver behavior), but it beats an ssh console :)
[09:06] <sunshine> how do i test it
[09:06] <Zeke1> can someone help me with ati...i have followed the howto instructions and it still wont work..I have an x800
[09:06] <Eppu> s_wart: Might be some issue with breezy then, yep..
[09:07] <nalioth> sunshine: use another browser
[09:08] <s_wart> Eppu: okay, well I'll keep poking around. it's not mission-critical or anything. I'll try and register a bug report if I manage to figure out what's going on
[09:08] <s_wart> Eppu: thanks for your help
[09:08] <cevizoglu> what kinds of WEP keys does breezy support?  128 bit? 40 bit?
[09:09] <sunshine> mozilla is set so what other browser to use and the browser only collaspe when i try to use a java or w32codec website
[09:09] <Eppu> s_wart: I tried vncserver on breezy, seems to work. It gives the grey screen, but I do not have any session configured on it
[09:09] <nalioth> sunshine: galeon, kazehakase, epiphany
[09:09] <AdmiralSenn> once again: is there any way to save an ext2 partition with a damaged superblock without losing all data on it?
[09:11] <Zeke1> does anybody have a 64bit amd and an ATi card...icant get ati to work
[09:12] <s_wart> Eppu: I am a moron - the session upstairs was sitting there with a dialog "Another user wants to share your desktop. Allow or Refuse?"
[09:12] <s_wart> disabled that :)
[09:12] <cevizoglu> s_wart, no, you're not a moron - that's an unusual default for ubuntu to have
[09:13] <sunshine> where do i get those from
[09:13] <revarc> .
[09:13] <Zeke1> havoc, could you help me with my ati...its not working
[09:13] <nerp> sunshine, where do you get any of your programs from?
[09:13] <sunshine> are u sure it the browser everthing else seems to work in the broswer it only the java and w32codec webpages
[09:14] <nerp> sunshine, i have seen 30 people help you with the same issues in the past two days when are you going to stop, think and listen a little bit.
[09:14] <s_wart> cevizoglu: it's probably more secure. now I just need to get it to use a bigger screen :)
[09:14] <havoc> !tell Zeke1 about ati
[09:14] <Eppu> s_wart: heh, good thing it works then
[09:14] <mikeyb> anyone know how to check what versions of php and mysql ubuntu is using??
[09:15] <sunshine> nerp i've tried what they said it didnt work everyone gave me different advice
[09:15] <Eppu> s_wart: You can disable that behavior, of course
[09:15] <kennethlove> mikeyb: make a .php doc with <? phpinfo(); ?> on it and pull it up in your browser (served by your server, of course)
[09:15] <arkainium> Is there a way I can get gnome to stop complaining about hal?  I'm disabling hal intentionally and the message gets annoying.
[09:15] <Alvin> o.o
[09:15] <abarbaccia> hey - is there a program i can use to change my grub options
[09:15] <Alvin> hi guys
[09:15] <sunshine> finally someone give me advice that does work , some computer are different so every advice  I receive i try til i find the one that work on my computer
[09:16] <atha> sunshine: are you trying to open videos using browser or what do you mean by opening w32codec webpages
[09:16] <atha> have you tried opening them directly using mplayer
[09:16] <BiSK-8> hello
[09:16] <mikeyb> that doesn't tell me what version of mysql i'm using though!
[09:16] <BiSK-8> can i install .deb packages with ubuntu?
[09:16] <kennethlove> BiSK-8: yep. use dpkg
[09:16] <nerp> sunshine, if you were to disable the plugin and select your own player like xine or mplayer i'm pretty sure it would work
[09:16] <BiSK-8> how?
[09:17] <DFStefan> mikeyb usualy rpm -q mysql does that .. although i don't know if ubuntu has rpm
[09:17] <kennethlove> BiSK-8: i think there's a GUI for it, but in a terminal type 'sudo dpkg -i <package name>'
[09:17] <sunshine> atha there is a website that requested i needed w32codec i've downloaded now when i try and access the website the internet browser collaspe
[09:17] <BiSK-8> kennethlove, i downloaded yahoo messanger and typed: dpkg -i ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb, but it gives me error
[09:17] <nerp> sunshine, no "webpage" requires w32codecs
[09:17] <sunshine> nerp dont worry i dont want to disable the plugin
[09:18] <nerp> W32CODECS are for MOVIES not WEBPAGES
[09:18] <kennethlove> BiSK-8: you have to have 'sudo' in front. has to be run as root.
[09:18] <BiSK-8> ill try
[09:18] <kennethlove> BiSK-8: don't you have gaim installed? it should work fine w/ yahoo
[09:18] <mikeyb> yea this isn't red hat... so anyone know how to find out what version of mysql is installed?
[09:18] <BiSK-8> kennethlove, yes but i need the microphone
[09:18] <s_wart> Eppu: once I've logged out, how can I start another remote desktop session? Do I need to log in at the console and share it again?
[09:18] <BiSK-8> and
[09:18] <BiSK-8> btw
[09:18] <s_wart> (sorry if that's a FAQ)
[09:18] <sunshine> nerp i know what the website requested w32 so please if you are not going to help please leave me
[09:18] <Skid> mikeyb: mysql --version
[09:18] <BiSK-8> how can i upgrade 2 the new ubuntu?
[09:19] <sunshine> i'm new to all this
[09:19] <kennethlove> mikeyb: php document served by apache (should be installed already)
[09:19] <mikeyb> thtnks
[09:19] <esac_> i can't get 1920x1200 resolution working with my ATI card. I am running the fglrx driver from ati.com with a custom kernel. i have tried everything on the howto/ATI and linked pages with no luck. any help appreciated.
[09:19] <kennethlove> BiSK-8: look at the topic.
[09:19] <sunshine> i'm just tryin to get my head around it all
[09:19] <nerp> sunshine, you must be thick in the head.. webpages do not require win32codecs. period.
[09:19] <deFrysk> sunshine, u seem to have the java plugin wrongly installed cousing your probs
[09:19] <nerp> win32codecs are FOR MOVIES ONLY
[09:19] <BiSK-8> k thx
[09:20] <sunshine> nerp the website play movies  music
[09:20] <sunshine> etc...
[09:20] <nerp> sunshine, whats the url of the page that asks for win32 codecs?
[09:20] <TimeWave> While setting the network, it is telling me the access concentrator is not responding?
[09:20] <sunshine> www.streamingfaith.com  click kon any program
[09:20] <bam_> hey anyone running fluxbox?
[09:20] <nerp> bam_ yes
[09:20] <BiSK-8> kennethlove,when i upgrade, does my theme and stuff get deleted? do i lose any data?
[09:21] <Skid> anyone know how to show email threads, in evolution?
[09:21] <bam_> seems the repository has an ssue with it
[09:21] <bam_> *issue
[09:21] <bam_> any other sources?
[09:21] <nerp> hoary, breezy?
[09:21] <nerp> have you done update?
[09:21] <bam_> hoary
[09:21] <bam_> yup
[09:21] <sunshine> defrysk all i did was download it off the website http://giannaros.org/tor/bt/ and dpkg -i (file) .deb in terminal
[09:21] <BiSK-8> kennethlove, it still dosent work the deb unpackager
[09:21] <BiSK-8> kennethlove, it still dosent work the deb unpackager
[09:22] <sunshine> where did i go wrong
[09:22] <kennethlove> BiSK-8: i wouldn't think so, not if you tell it to preserve your home folder. you can always back up /home/<your username>/ before you upgrade
[09:22] <nerp> bam_, whats the issue?
[09:22] <BiSK-8> kennethlove, dunno why, but do i need any software 2 do it?
[09:22] <kennethlove> BiSK-8: PM the error to me.
[09:22] <deFrysk> sunshine, you went wrong with the java plugin
[09:22] <bam_> this: \ '
[09:22] <bam_> Failed to fetch ftp://ftp2.caliu.info/backports/dists/hoary-backports/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file.  '
[09:22] <bam_> Failed to fetch ftp://ftp2.caliu.info/backports/dists/hoary-backports/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file.  '
[09:22] <sunshine> what part i've just explain the process i took
[09:23] <sunshine> how
[09:23] <Eppu> s_wart: The remote desktop sharing is just for locally logged in displays. If you need a separate display only for remote use, you have to use vncserver.
[09:23] <sunshine> tell the right process
[09:23] <avysk> Hello. Does w32codecs package for amd64 exist?
[09:23] <nerp> sunshine, how did you install java?
[09:23] <deFrysk> sunshine, how did you link the plugin in the browser ?
[09:23] <bam_> any idea's on where else to get it?
[09:23] <s_wart> Eppu: which takes me back to my original problem :(
[09:23] <Eppu> s_wart: I am personally just always logged in on my server machine, and use that shared display from other macines.
[09:23] <nerp> and sunshine what email do you use to play videos, i'm no going to register for this
[09:23] <piet> help h2 install mplayer??
[09:24] <sunshine> nerp http://giannaros.org/tor/bt/
[09:24] <s_wart> Eppu: I just restarted the server after doing an apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:24] <Eppu> s_wart: I never had any problems with a separate vncserver display either, but I haven't tried it with breezy.
[09:25] <nerp> sunshine, once you got the torrents what did you do?
[09:25] <Eppu> s_wart: Do you have your ~/.vnc/xstartup or whatever the file was properly configured?
[09:25] <sunshine> bub_bles82@lycos.co.uk
[09:25] <s_wart> Eppu: it's really what I need, because I want to run an X-based app as a server, but I don't want it to die whenever I log out
[09:25] <sunshine> dpkg -i file.deb
[09:25] <s_wart> Eppu: probably that's where I need to go next. I assumed it would "just work" but based on what I've found online, it looks like I need to set up a few things
[09:26] <deFrysk> sunshine, and di you link the plugin in the plugin folder ?
[09:26] <^majik^> how can I use gcc 3.3 or 3.4 instead of gcc 4.0?  I've done installed build-essential along with gcc 4.0.
[09:26] <sunshine> defrysk i dont know how to do that link the plugin
[09:26] <Eppu> s_wart: Yes, you probably need to configure the server to start the proper things when it starts. That might have changed in the new versions.
[09:26] <BooZee> hello. I think I did a mistake, and accidently deleted the KDM from the init.d
[09:26] <s_wart> Eppu: it's all coming back to me now :)
[09:26] <BooZee> how can I return it to there?
[09:26] <sunshine> no i dint link it i didnt know i need to
[09:27] <Eppu> s_wart: You need to have the session set up and running before you can really use it from remote clients
[09:27] <deFrysk> sunshine, does firefox crash on java.com ?
[09:28] <nerp> sunshine, i got to the part where it says can you see the video to the right and I clicked yes and it crashed
[09:28] <nerp> it's kinda a junky made site
[09:28] <BooZee> can somebody help me fix my KDM problem?
[09:29] <nerp> i've used pelnty of streaming media and never had that occur
[09:29] <deFrysk> nerp, the site is a mixed mash of scripts and flash
[09:29] <nerp> deFrysk, indeed
[09:29] <sunshine> nerp now we are on the same page so stop callin me a nob
[09:29] <AdmiralSenn> once again: is there any way to save an ext2 partition with a damaged superblock without losing all data on it?
[09:29] <tear> tell me about !ati
[09:29] <oxez> hi, I installed the newest updates for breezy this morning, and now when I boot, I get a kernel panic error: "Can't open /scripts/function".. any fixes?
[09:29] <tear> !tell me about ati
[09:29] <BooZee> !tell me about kdm
[09:29] <soxfun> ok, I'm registered.
[09:29] <soxfun> now, how can I unrar my rar files?
[09:30] <nerp> sunshine, in my opinion your install is probably fine, the site is the culprit
[09:30] <BooZee> !tell me about init.d
[09:30] <deFrysk> nerp, I agree
[09:30] <soxfun> I've installed unrar-free.. but it sends me Failed messages
[09:30] <sunshine> nerp say sorry#
[09:30] <nerp> no, because i've still heard you asking the same stuff for two days and i'm still annoyed
[09:30] <nerp> i'm not sorry
[09:30] <sunshine> defrysk how do i check
[09:30] <deFrysk> sunshine, dont be silly , u should have given that link right away
[09:30] <sunshine> im on the java website
[09:31] <marco_g> Hi
[09:31] <deFrysk> does the page work fine ?
[09:31] <nerp> "check your java install"
[09:31] <BooZee> Help needen - KDE
[09:31] <BooZee> needen=needed
[09:31] <deFrysk> sunshine, what nerp says , check java install
[09:31] <marco_g> I just upgraded my hoary install to breezy and firefox can't start anymore. Is that a known problem?
[09:31] <piet> how do i install mplayer ?
[09:32] <sunshine> is that in synapthic
[09:32] <ricky> hi everybody...
[09:32] <deFrysk> sunshine, its on the website
[09:32] <nerp> http://java.com/en/download/installed.jsp?detect=jre
[09:32] <nerp> bam_, sorry forgot about you
[09:32] <nerp> bam_, do you have any version of fluxbox installd?
[09:32] <benkong2> hey folks
[09:32] <snorks> yo
[09:33] <epiloc> Ok, so I have this laptop... with nothing but a usb floppy drive ...  how do i get an OS on there?
[09:33] <Eppu> s_wart: The problem might be something to do with dbus. I tied vncserver, and it seems to hang on dbus-launch process or something
[09:33] <ricky> i've a breezy and i've installed kubuntu-artwork-usplash, how can i see a graphical splash ???
[09:33] <snorks> epiloc: install os on it from another comp
[09:34] <epiloc> How
[09:34] <s_wart> Eppu: interesting. I've traced through the wrapper script but haven't been able to debug the binary
[09:34] <snorks> epiloc: i assume you need an install media such as cdrom
[09:34] <nerp> or do a net install
[09:34] <Alvin> anyone know the apt-get command for anjuta?
[09:34] <deFrysk> ricky, perhaps they know on #kubuntu ?
[09:34] <benkong2> i just took the upgrade on breezy to kernel "2.6.12-9-amd64-k8 x86_64" now my beautiful splash is gone and I am getting insmod errors. Any help
[09:34] <ricky> ok tks
[09:34] <epiloc> I have an external cdrom
[09:34] <epiloc> it is pcmcia though
[09:34] <snorks> sorry
[09:34] <snorks> i thought it was usb hd
[09:34] <sunshine> oh i've done it say i have the latest java
[09:34] <epiloc> ah
[09:34] <sunshine> 1.5
[09:35] <epiloc> usb floppy
[09:35] <Eppu> s_wart: One thing to do is to try your own custom session, something very simple with twm or something.
[09:35] <Versed> if I install ubuntu on a amd/intel cpu based computer and use an 802.11b, will it auto config the wifi card like it did on my older G4 450?
[09:35] <epiloc> the cdrom only takes win9x drivers
[09:35] <deFrysk> sunshine, java is fine then , blame the poor coding on the site
[09:35] <sunshine> ahh but it yahoo chat
[09:35] <epiloc> so it looks like its gonna be m$dos
[09:35] <snorks> epiloc: if you read about linux from scratch, you can get a small system installed via floppy, and then DL the rest you need, building your own distro kinda. takes time and i dont recommend it
[09:35] <snorks> epiloc: you will however gain a lot of knowledge about linux
[09:35] <Eppu> s_wart: the global configuration is at /etc/vnc.conf and you can put overrides in ~/.vncrc
[09:36] <nalioth> epiloc: search wiki.ubuntu.com for smartboot
[09:36] <tear> how do I make Ununtu autoditect my new monitor, I tried changing GFX drivers without results...
[09:36] <sunshine> i'll be back my mplayer isn't workin but i have to go to the cashpoint and come back
[09:37] <darklogic> i just set up a local printer on one computer, what would the uri be so i can set other machines on the network to use that printer?
[09:37] <oxez> I installed the newest updates for breezy this morning, and now when I boot, I get a kernel panic error: "Can't open /scripts/function".. any fixes?
[09:37] <^majik^> how can I get gcc 3.3 or 3.4 installed? - I think it's conflicting with gcc 4.0 that's installed
[09:37] <nalioth> ^majik^: it's not conflicting. you can have many versions of gcc installed
[09:38] <nalioth> ^majik^: use synapti to install the gcc version(s) you want
[09:38] <nalioth> ^majik^: leave gcc-4.0 installed
[09:38] <s_wart> Eppu: I created a very basic xstartup file and it still dies without writing any log messages. the entire /etc/vnc.conf file is commented out - I think it gets the fontPath from xorg.conf and everything else looks optional
[09:38] <meez> Hey, I mounted a fat32 partition on to /data... (via fstab), problem is, I can only write to it via root. I've tried 'chown' and 'chgrp' to no avail, which just give me a "chown: changing ownership of `/data': Operation not permitted" error... Any ideas how I can write to it without root?
[09:38] <^majik^> nalioth: ah ok, so, how I differentiate between them when I try to use it (or more specifically, when 'make' uses it)
[09:39] <atha> instead of make, try to use "CC=gcc-3.4 make"
[09:39] <dereks_> debating between 1 dual core opteron or 2 single core ones, what you guys think
[09:39] <^majik^> nalioth: ok, I've got gcc 3.4 installed as well
[09:39] <^majik^> ah
[09:39] <Eppu> s_wart: did you change the Xsession variable in /etc/vnc.conf (or .vncrc?)
[09:39] <nalioth> ^majik^: ask uncle google (i can't remember)
[09:39] <s_wart> Eppu: here we go; from /var/log/messages localhost kernel: [878557.535430]  Xtightvnc[27653] : segfault at
[09:39] <sunshine> nerp it turns out the streaming faith website only accept windows media player
[09:40] <atha> or maybe setting the CC variable before running ./configure
[09:40] <Zeke1> anybody have problems with ati? i need help
[09:40] <Eppu> s_wart: Can you try with the normal vnc and not tightvnc?
[09:41] <tear> !tell Zekel about ati
[09:41] <sunshine> cant i get wine to download exe files
[09:41] <nerp> i see
[09:41] <nalioth> ^majik^: there is an "export bleh" option you can pass but i forget what it is
[09:41] <deFrysk> sunshine, download or execute ?
[09:41] <soxfun> hello?
[09:41] <dereks_> what happens if i open a virus in wine/
[09:41] <Eppu> s_wart: I don't think tightvnc is really needed unless you are connecting through a less than 10Mbit link
[09:41] <Zeke1> i have installed fglrx but it wont use it...
[09:41] <soxfun> can anyone help me?
[09:41] <nerp> dereks_, nothing
[09:41] <Augustin> hello
[09:41] <soxfun> I can't unrar my rar files! :S :S
[09:41] <dereks_> nerp :)
[09:41] <s_wart> Eppu: same error, except /var/log/messages says Xrealvnc segfaulted instead
[09:42] <deFrysk> soxfun, get unrar-nonfree
[09:42] <Augustin> anyone can spend a couple of minutes helping me with a GRUB problem that arose when installing Breezy please ?
[09:42] <soxfun> but, I can't get it by apt
[09:42] <soxfun> right?
[09:42] <deFrysk> soxfun, its available in a repo
[09:42] <Eppu> s_wart: Yeah, well segfault probably means there is a bug somewhere, if the configuration is otherwise correct.
[09:42] <nerp> Augustin, can try
[09:42] <deFrysk> !info unrar-nonfree
[09:42] <ubotu> unrar-nonfree: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 82 kB, Installed size: 208 kB
[09:42] <atha> ^majik^: for instance when building wget for instance I ran: "CC=gcc-3.4 ./configure" and configure selected the correct gcc "checking for gcc... gcc-3.4"
[09:42] <nerp> just say what the problem is
[09:42] <soxfun> mm I'll try it
[09:42] <soxfun> thanks
[09:42] <s_wart> Eppu: I think I need to go back 20 years to remember how to use gdb :)
[09:43] <deFrysk> soxfun, its in multiverse
[09:43] <ThJ> hey, i'm trying to bind sshd to one IP address only (my box is in a datacenter and i have several ip's on one interface).
[09:43] <soxfun> oh, ok
[09:43] <niko> hi
[09:43] <tear> my new monitor is causing problems, it won't use full resolution and the hertz is way to low, Tries updating drivers for GFX card, any more ideas, perhaps reditecting Monitor?
[09:43] <ThJ> the problem is, ListenAddress doesn't limit me to one IP.
[09:43] <Eppu> s_wart: Heh, it might not do you much good anyway, if the debug information has been stripped from the executables.
[09:43] <sunshine> does anyone know how to work wine
[09:43] <^majik^> atha: ah ok.  lemme try reconfiguring with that
[09:43] <deFrysk> tear, find the horiz and vert freq's
[09:43] <s_wart> Eppu: more progress. sounds like it's a known issue on debian amd64
[09:43] <nerp> sunshine, man wine
[09:44] <deFrysk> and adjust the settings in your qorg.conf
[09:44] <Eppu> s_wart: Are you using amd64?
[09:44] <deFrysk> xorg*
[09:44] <s_wart> Eppu: yeah, sorry I forgot to mention that :) it's kind of a hassle actually :)
[09:44] <dmacdonald111> Hi. Can anyone help me locate the bcmwl5 to use with ndiswrapper? I have been trawling the internet with no luck :(
[09:44] <^majik^> atha: would I also have to do that when I go to run make?
[09:44] <soxfun> sorry, I came from Debian, here nonfree repos are called ...??
[09:44] <Eppu> s_wart: Okay, normal amd here and I didn't get any segfaults. Very probably a bug in the server code then
[09:44] <deFrysk> soxfun, multiverse and universe
[09:45] <tear> deFrysk,  I have tried, but I bought if 2'nd hand and got no user guide and nothing can be found on google
[09:45] <nerp> soxfun, what deFrysk said
[09:45] <s_wart> Eppu: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=276948
[09:45] <nerp> ;P
[09:45] <deFrysk> tear, did xorg detect your monitor ?
[09:45] <Augustin> nerp i've been sending you everything in query until i read my status window and saw they were blocked
[09:45] <Augustin> =D
[09:45] <soxfun> jeje, universe free, multiverse nonfree right?
[09:45] <atha> ^majik^: I think that configure sets the correct paths for gcc in Makefiles, so probably no
[09:45] <nerp> bah, this compile of e17 is taking forever and a day on this old box
[09:45] <deFrysk> soliste, multiverse is non-free yes
[09:45] <tear> deFrysk, it still thinks it's my old...
[09:45] <deFrysk> soxfun,
[09:45] <nerp> Augustin, ask in channel
[09:46] <soxfun> ok, thanks a lot
[09:46] <Augustin> yup, i'm c/p stuff now ;)
[09:46] <Augustin> i used hoary on my laptop, dual boot, WinXP being the other OS, and i used GRUB 1.5. now, a couple of hours ago, i burned Breezy and installed it.
[09:46] <tear> deFrysk, can I force detect it?
[09:46] <Augustin> everything went fine until i reached the GRUB installation, which gave an error, so in the installation process, i skipped the installation of a loader, hoping that GRUB would work as it used to, since nothing was ACTUALLY changed during the reinstallation. but of course, next reboot, GRUB failed to load and gave an Error 15, so now i can't boot at all =)
[09:46] <benkong2> can anyone look at this and tell me where to start? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2619
[09:46] <Augustin> any idea how to be able to reinstall GRUB properly without having to go through the whole install again ?
[09:46] <deFrysk> tear, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and let it run the defaults and see it it recognizes your monitor
[09:46] <^majik^> atha: ok, thx
[09:47] <s_wart> Eppu: sounds like the fedora folks have fixed it
[09:47] <nerp> Augustin, no idea, I have no experience with dual boot machines or that sort of problem, sorry
[09:47] <nerp> someone else may though
[09:47] <Eppu> s_wart: Seems that the debian people do not consider this very severe, since they have downgraded the bug couple of times.
[09:47] <Augustin> yup, still clinging to that hope =P thanks for treying though =)
[09:47] <mon> anyone can help me setup dhcpd for ra0? i get "please write a subnet declaration" but i do have that (i think)
[09:47] <ThJ> i have Port 22\nPort 443\nListenAddress x.x.x.x (escaped, ip censored) in my sshd_config file and sshd does something stupid, namely listen with ipv6 on *:22 and x.x.x.x:443 with ipv4. why is it acting this weird? i want it to listen on both ports, on one ip, and no more. what's wrong?
[09:47] <^majik^> atha: bingo!  thanks alot  :-)
[09:47] <CookedGryphon> does anyone know how much there is to download for a standard breezy update? can I update it a bit at a time, or do i need to do it all at once?
[09:47] <smx> Anyone have advice on how to diagnose a sound problem? The error from mpg321 is "can't access device" , but the drivers are laoded and I know they'er the right ones. Someone here is always helpful ....   Ideas?
[09:48] <s_wart> Eppu: nod. based on the fact that you can use alien to convert the rpm file. not sure alien fits the ubuntu philosophy however :)
[09:48] <nerp> CookedGryphon, you shoudl do it in one shot
[09:48] <deFrysk> CookedGryphon, about 600 megs
[09:48] <CookedGryphon> thanks, i'll wait till i have a faster connection then
[09:48] <Bergcube> I'm afraid I have a really really dumb question, and it's as off-topic as the ycome as well..... When surfing the net the other day I looked at the page of some promosing CMS. And now stupid me wished I'd /bookmarked/ the bleeding page. The site was very distinct as the main eye-catcher was a heavilly gimped picture of a lightbulb held in blue color-tones. Any hints, good people?
[09:48] <mon> !info dhcp
[09:48] <ubotu> dhcp: (DHCP server for automatic IP address assignment), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2.0pl5-19.1 (hoary), Packaged size: 107 kB, Installed size: 304 kB
[09:49] <Eppu> s_wart: Yeah, only time I've used it is to test cedega. I rather compiler from source
[09:49] <mon> !info dhcpd
[09:49] <Augustin> anyone to help with the GRUB thing ?
[09:49] <tear> thanks deFrysk. It found the monitor, now to reboot and see if it worked
[09:49] <moparfan90> hello all
[09:49] <deFrysk> tear, not to reboot
[09:49] <Eppu> s_wart: Advantage of that approach is that all the "alien" stuff goes to /usr/local by default.
[09:50] <deFrysk> just resart x
[09:50] <deFrysk> restart*
[09:50] <Skid> hmph, slypheed isn't in the repositaries
[09:50] <Skid> (sp)
[09:50] <benkong2> !usplash
[09:50] <ubotu> [usplash]  in Breezy: sudo apt-get install usplash, for more information see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashDiscuss
[09:50] <moparfan90> ctrl + alt +backspace
[09:50] <marco_g> !firefox
[09:50] <ubotu> marco_g: Not a clue
[09:50] <marco_g> !mozilla-firefox
[09:50] <ubotu> marco_g: Are you smoking crack?
[09:51] <deFrysk> marco_g, using backports and having probs with firefox ?
[09:51] <mon> !dhcpd
[09:51] <ubotu> mon: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[09:51] <mon> sigh
[09:51] <BiSK-8> i have a prob updating, it wont let me do the dist-upgrade
[09:51] <BiSK-8> it says tis got a prob with ymessenger
[09:51] <marco_g> deFrysk: I did a dist-upgrade from hoary to breezy and firefox doesn't start anymore.
[09:52] <logan001101> help, how can i unzip .rar file ???
[09:52] <nerp> unrar
[09:52] <mon> try unRARing it
[09:52] <nalioth> logan001101: install and use unrar-nonfree
[09:52] <deFrysk> marco_g, apt-get remove --purge mozilla-firefox is the solution I think
[09:52] <logan001101> unrar is a packet isnt it??
[09:52] <lutifer> hi
[09:52] <deFrysk> marco_g, and get rid of those backports!
[09:53] <nerp> no unrar is a package of an app that unpacks rar archivs
[09:53] <marco_g> deFrysk: I never used backports...
[09:53] <mon> package actually, yes
[09:53] <deFrysk> marco_g, and then reinstall mozilla-firefox
[09:53] <logan001101> nalioth: unrar is a package isnt it??
[09:53] <pippijn> I want to find all backports and replace them with the originals.. is that possible?
[09:53] <deFrysk> marco_g, strange that it does not work then
[09:53] <BiSK-8> niko
[09:53] <BiSK-8> sei italiano?
[09:53] <deFrysk> !it
[09:53] <ubotu> deFrysk: Syntax error in line 1
[09:54] <marco_g> deFrysk: I agree.
[09:54] <deFrysk> dang :s
[09:54] <nalioth> !info unrar-nonfree
[09:54] <ubotu> unrar-nonfree: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 82 kB, Installed size: 208 kB
[09:54] <marco_g> deFrysk: Purging didn't work for me.
[09:55] <esac_> would anybody be interested in making laptop specific packages? i was thinking of starting one for my laptop and was wondering if people thought it would be a good idea. something like apt-get install laptop-sony-vaio-vgn-a190 would install a custom kernel and all the right programs to work nicely with that laptop
[09:55] <atha> marco_g: which version is installed at the moment?
[09:55] <deFrysk> marco_g, remove the .mozillafolder perhaps that works
[09:55] <atha> of firefox
[09:55] <marco_g> deFrysk: That was the first thing I tried.
[09:55] <CookedGryphon> esac_, if you got one to work on my laptop, then that would b a great idea
[09:55] <Zeke1> anybody have at ATI x800 card?
[09:55] <marco_g> atha: 1.0.7
[09:56] <s_wart> Eppu: well at least I know I'm not going crazy. now I'm getting errors in the log file, which is a huge breakthrough. it's complaining that it's missing GLIBC_2.4. I should probably rebuild from source tomorrow. thanks again for all your help
[09:56] <marco_g> deFrysk: A new .mozilla directory is created, but it exits and the .mozilla dir is left empty.
[09:56] <esac_> CookedGryphon: of course everyone would want one for just their laptop. but i would be looking for people with laptops who would be willing to make specific packages and do testing
[09:56] <Zeke1> cant get fglrx working...can someone help please?
[09:56] <atha> marco_g: could there be problem with a certain plungin or something - did you have any plugins installed (manually perhaps) before upgrading?
[09:57] <Eppu> s_wart: Yeah, i wouldn't mess with alien binaries. Just grab a pached source and go from there.
[09:57] <deFrysk> marco_g, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop (in case something is missing)
[09:58] <marco_g> deFrysk: I did that too...
[09:58] <BurgerMann> Does anyone know a url resource on shell script tutorials?
[09:58] <Zeke1> i get an error saying module load fail
[09:58] <logan001101> help again, how to mount .mdf or .mds file to /media/cdroom0
[09:58] <dalamar> my psp automounts when I plug it in to the usb, what directory would that be in terminal?
[09:58] <logan001101> help again, how to mount .mdf or .mds file to /media/cdroom0
[09:58] <logan001101> help again, how to mount .mdf or .mds file to /media/cdroom0
[09:58] <nalioth> logan001101: you change them to iso
[09:59] <nalioth> logan001101: and burn them
[09:59] <logan001101> nalioth: how can i do that???
[09:59] <Answer> How do I change the computer name?
[09:59] <deFrysk> marco_g, sorry I am at a loss
[09:59] <marco_g> atha: All plugins (the vlc one) were removed during the upgrade.
[09:59] <nalioth> logan001101: in windows
[09:59] <Zeke1> cant get fglrx working...can someone help please? i have an ati x800
[09:59] <logan001101> nalioth: oh no
[09:59] <marco_g> deFrysk: Thanks anyways. :)
[09:59] <nalioth> Answer: use the "hostname" command in the terminal
[09:59] <^majik^> could someone tell me what the default root pass is right quick?  =o)  I don't think it allowed me to set it in the install, or did it?
[09:59] <logan001101> nalioth: i dont like windows
[09:59] <esac_> !tell Zeke1 about ati
[09:59] <deFrysk> marco_g, good luck
[09:59] <nalioth> ubotu: tell ^majik^ about root
[09:59] <marco_g> Thanks. :)
[10:00] <WinZ> sorry for my bad english, but I need help.. Can someone tell me how to turn up ppp-connection (adsl through com-port modem) at startup? (what file to edit)
[10:00] <Zeke1> esac_, i did try that...it still dont work
[10:00] <logan001101> nalioth: another solution plz
[10:00] <Zeke1> esac_, i get errors
[10:00] <Answer> nalioth:  I set it with hostname, when will the changes take effect?  Do i have to reboot?
[10:00] <nalioth> logan001101: find a friend with windows
[10:00] <dereks_> so, what do you guys reccomend, dual core or 2 single cores
[10:00] <esac_> Zeke1: what is the error (paste.ubuntulinux.nl if it is more than 1 line)
[10:00] <dalamar> linux does not like mdf period
[10:00] <pippijn> is it possible to purge all configurations of deleted packages?
[10:00] <deFrysk> dereks_, we reccommend what suits you best
[10:00] <esac_> dereks_: dual core, better cache locality (spatially and temporaly)
[10:00] <dereks_> deFrysk: lol
[10:00] <nalioth> dereks_: there is more to it than than, and also it is a subject for #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:01] <logan001101> nalioth: so in win which program i can use???
[10:01] <nalioth> logan001101: the one which created it
[10:01] <dalamar> mdf is alocohol 120% i think
[10:01] <Zeke1> esac_,  it says fatel server error, module load fail
[10:01] <^majik^> heh, thanks once again
[10:01] <logan001101> nalioth: u r funny man
[10:01] <nalioth> logan001101: your answer is here.
[10:01] <esac_> Zeke1: what happens when you "sudo modprobe fglrx" ?
[10:01] <logan001101> yeh it an alcohol
[10:01] <dalamar> you can use magiciso or a similar program to convert it in windows as well
[10:02] <benkong2> how can I delete the 8139cp module that tries to load at boot?
[10:02] <Zeke1> esac_, nothing happens which means its working right?
[10:02] <logan001101> dalamar: in windows u mean?
[10:02] <deFrysk> benkong2, blacklist it I believe
[10:02] <pippijn> anyone?
[10:02] <esac_> Zeke1: do an "lsmod | grep fglrx" and see if it shows up
[10:02] <dalamar> logan001101, yes, ive never found a solution for linux i try and stay away from mdf for that reason
[10:02] <benkong2> deFrysk; I hate to ask but how do I blacklist it?
[10:03] <WinZ> nalioth, can you tell me how to turn up ppp-connection (adsl through com-port modem) at startup? (what file to edit) pleeease..
[10:03] <logan001101> thanks guys
[10:03] <Zeke1> esac_, gives me this : fglrx                 262392  0
[10:03] <deFrysk> benkong2, put the module in the blacklist file (not sure whre it is tho ? anyone ?
[10:03] <logan001101> will try that shit
[10:03] <logan001101> really hate wins
[10:03] <rob_p> BurgerMann:  If you google for, "shell script how-to", it yields the following tutorial, which looks promising:  http://vertigo.hsrl.rutgers.edu/ug/shell_help.html
[10:03] <dalamar> my psp automounts when I plug it in to the usb, what directory would that be in terminal?
[10:03] <nalioth> WinZ: i'm sorry i do not know
[10:04] <benkong2> deFrysk; ok thanks I search
[10:04] <esac_> Zeke1: ok, can you "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE" and paste what it shows in paste.ubuntulinux.nl ?
[10:04] <_john> hey, if i have ubuntu installed on my computer, and another without an internet connection with ubuntu, can i copy the GNU C Compiler and G++ folders onto a disc so i can use gcc on my other computer?  if so, what folders, woudl I need to copy?
[10:04] <atha> dalamar: run "mount" and look if there is a one which looks something like that :)
[10:04] <dalamar> atha, bingo, thanks much
[10:05] <Zeke1> esac_, ok but im running a vesa driver now just so you know and i am in X as well
[10:05] <Zeke1> esac_, i have pasted
[10:06] <esac_> Zeke1: ok, you need to get X to crash when loading fglrx then, and when it does, backup /var/log/Xorg.0.log and paste me that instead :)
[10:07] <Zeke1> esac_, ok can u hold on for like 2 minutes
[10:07] <esac_> ill be here
[10:07] <arverne> anybody in the desktop team willing to improve the placement modes of metacity? I miss the centering by default option
[10:08] <arverne> there is an interesting patch to look at: http://home.uchicago.edu/~chad/metacity/
[10:08] <Zeke1> esac_, will be back in 2 minutes
[10:08] <nerp\a\> anyoone have any idea what package would solve : aclocal: configure.in: 118: macro `AM_PATH_GTK' not found in library
[10:09] <nerp\a\> i have all gtk libs
[10:11] <davro> http://tinyurl.com/85dry
[10:12] <Zeke1> esac_, you still here?
[10:12] <frank23> can anyone load the ath_pci module with 2.6.12-9 in breezy?
[10:12] <Hfuy> Evening all.
[10:13] <Hfuy> How would my friend check if CPU scaling is working on his laptop?
[10:13] <Zeke1> esac_, what was that cat instruction i had to type to output the log
[10:13] <meez> how to run shell scripts (setup.sh????)
[10:13] <frank23> Hfuy  cat /proc/cpuinfo
[10:13] <Hfuy> Will that tell him what it's doing right now, or just what it could do?
[10:14] <frank23> Hfuy  That will just give the clock speed
[10:14] <esac_> oh well
[10:14] <Bergcube> For the log: The CMS I was asking for earlier turned out to be E107.  ( http://e107.org/news.php )
[10:14] <Hfuy> The clock speed now, or the "Normal" one?
[10:14] <frank23> Hfuy: the current one, whatever it is
[10:15] <Hfuy> Right
[10:15] <meez> does anyone know how i run shell scripts?
[10:15] <Hfuy> The next question would be how would you make it scale, or would you expect it to "just happen".#
[10:15] <frank23> Hfuy: you have to compare idle and not idle cpu usage
[10:16] <derFlo> does anybody of you know a GPLd email-marketing tool, running with apache,php4 and mysql?
[10:16] <Bergcube> Email marketing?  Isn't that newspeak for "spam"?
[10:16] <frank23> Hfuy: easy way to make the cpu work: type yes in a shell
[10:16] <SEPARADO-40> hola
[10:16] <SEPARADO-40> alguien que hable espaol????
[10:16] <Zeke1> esac_, you still here?
[10:17] <esac_> always
[10:17] <_dom> hey, can anyone help me with a problem with my upload speed?
[10:17] <kemik> !es
[10:17] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:17] <dpro\> !dk
[10:17] <ubotu> dpro\: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[10:17] <derFlo> Bergcube: I have email-lists and they are all opt in
[10:17] <Zeke1> esac_, i pasted the other one
[10:17] <dpro\> !da
[10:17] <ubotu> dpro\: I give up, what is it?
[10:17] <dpro\> :P
[10:17] <dpro\> lol
[10:17] <dpro\> no danish channel? .P
[10:17] <derFlo> some others would call it a newsletter
[10:17] <derFlo> but I will track some stats
[10:18] <dpro\> ahh nevermind
[10:18] <nalioth> dpro\: try and see, it may not be in the database
[10:18] <Bergcube> derFlo~ Ah.  That is another cup of tea.  Unfortunately I cannot suggest any tool for you.
[10:18] <Zeke1> esac_,  will you check it out and let me know>
[10:18] <dpro\> nalioth, uhh... #ubuntu-dk exists!
[10:19] <finley> is there an nfs specific irc channel?
[10:19] <derFlo> you already helped. I'll search for "newsletter-tool"
[10:19] <derFlo> a new idea
[10:19] <nalioth> dpro\: yes, but not in the bots database
[10:19] <esac_> Zeke1: comment out the int10 module in your xorg.conf
[10:19] <zAo^> how do I set GCC to 3.4? (Breezy)
[10:19] <esac_> zAo^: CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4
[10:19] <zAo^> thanks :)
[10:19] <Zeke1> esac_,  how do i do that
[10:19] <esac_> zAo^ for example: CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 sudo ./vmware-install.pl
[10:20] <Zeke1> oh with a # right
[10:20] <frank23> can anyone load the ath_pci module with 2.6.12-9 in breezy?
[10:20] <esac_> Zeke1: correct :)
[10:20] <frank23> It works with 2.6.12-6 but not 2.6.12-9
[10:20] <revarc> Greetings all.  Is there anything I can do to get the nvidia drivers to work, every time I've tried enablaling nvidia-glx my X crashes and tells me to fix my config.
[10:20] <Hfuy> Does anyone here have experience with Ubuntu on an HP Pavilion DV1000 laptop, or similar?
[10:20] <deFrysk> revarc, did you do it as told in the wiki ?
[10:20] <Zeke1> esac_,  ok and then
[10:21] <esac_> Zeke1: restart X and see if that fixes it. are you running x64 ?
[10:21] <atha> Zeke1: http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-amd64@lists.debian.org/msg12380.html this also instructs to comment out the int10 module but also to make one symbolic link
[10:21] <Zeke1> esac_,  yeah Amd64
[10:21] <Zeke1> esac_,  and ubuntu 64
[10:21] <esac_> Hfuy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6112
[10:21] <revarc> deFrysk: pardon?
[10:22] <deFrysk> !tell revarc about nvidia
[10:22] <esac_> Zeke1: does /usr/X11R6/lib64 exist (and is it a link to /usr/X11R6/lib) ?
[10:22] <finley> anyone have mountd cpu usage probs w/ubunto on amd64
[10:22] <deFrysk> revarc, did you do it the way ubotu is telling you ?
[10:22] <Zeke1> esac_,  erm how do i check that
[10:22] <esac_> Zeke1: ls -l /usr/X11R6
[10:22] <revarc> deFrysk, yes and I've also compile the driver from nvidia page both 7676, and 7667
[10:23] <deFrysk> revarc, do you have an older type nvidia-card ?
[10:23] <revarc> deFrysk, fx5900
[10:23] <Zeke1> esac_, yeah its a link
[10:23] <esac_> Zeke1: You would see something like lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root ..... lib64 -> /usr/X11R6/lib
[10:23] <esac_> Zeke1: ok so just comment that out and restart X
[10:23] <Hfuy> esac_: Thanks.
[10:23] <deFrysk> revarc, weird ..
[10:23] <vladuz976> if you copy scripts to /etc/cron.daily what time of each day do they get executed?
[10:23] <Hfuy> I'm reading good things in general, but I hadn't found that one.
[10:24] <Zeke1> esac_, ok cool i will be back hopefully with working fglrx! :) thanx man
[10:25] <boozee> Any body here free to give some KDE help ?
[10:25] <Hfuy> When we close the lid on this Toshiba laptop, it doesn't even try to suspend.
[10:25] <Zeke1> esac_, how do i restart x if im already in it? :)
[10:25] <Hfuy> Instead, when we open it back up, it asks for a password.
[10:25] <Hfuy> Can anyone shed light on why this might be?
[10:25] <esac_> Zeke1: CTRL+ALT+F1 , login , sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[10:25] <deFrysk> boozee, kde peaople are mostly in #kubuntu
[10:27] <jonison06> hey
[10:27] <dpro\> Hfuy, because the Toshiba kernel module doensnt load with all Toshiba laptops
[10:27] <revarc> deFrysk, any idea at all what could be up?  I've read through tons of posts and "how-to's" and now I'm at my wits end.
[10:27] <dpro\> Hfuy, i have the same problem
[10:28] <Hfuy> Is it fixable?
[10:28] <Hfuy> We have ascertained that this particular laptop won't hibernate or suspend properly, which is a near-showstopper for us.
[10:28] <atha> nerp\a\: about the AM_PATH_GTK macro - it comes from libgtk1.2-dev
[10:28] <deFrysk> revarc, I really have no clue if you did it according to the wiki it should work fine
[10:28] <flankk> I'm searching for a password management GTK application which functions similar to kwallet.  I have a USB thumb I need to use as an additional authentication method.
[10:28] <lars> hi all
[10:28] <dpro\> Hfuy, i think it is fixable, if you want to mess with the code in the kernel module
[10:28] <Hfuy> dpro\: Shriek!
[10:29] <Hfuy> What SHOULD it do when you close the lid?
[10:29] <boozee> defrysk - been there (actually, still there) but they can't give me the help I need (only one man answered me
[10:29] <Hfuy> Or at least try to do, given that it won't recover from suspend.
[10:29] <lars> i've got a problem could somebody help me ?
[10:29] <Zeke1> esac_,  ok that sort of seemed to work except glxgears is really slow still and when i do fglrxinfo it says i have mesa running
[10:29] <deFrysk> revarc, as a last try you could try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and runt the defaults exept for setting it to nvidia in stead of nv
[10:30] <dpro\> Hfuy, well mine does nothing, but in windows it goes in standby mode
[10:30] <Psycho275> Away [Duration] : 1hr 30mins [Reason] : AFK | Time is now: 9:27pm UPP
[10:30] <deFrysk> revarc, and turn of dri
[10:30] <Hfuy> dpro\: That's what I'd expect.
[10:30] <lars> Could somebody help me ?
[10:30] <Psycho275> Back [Duration] : 1hr 30mins [Reason] : AFK Time is now: 9:27pm UPP
[10:30] <butcherbird> lars, what is the problem?
[10:30] <Hfuy> I mean, a non suspending laptop is a fairly considerable waste of space, so I'm very keen to find out whether it'll work on mine before I go and nuke the XP install.
[10:30] <esac_> Zeke1: yep, for some reason it's a pain to get it to actually load fglrx. if you do lsmod | grep fglrx now, does it appear ?
[10:30] <lars> I've got a Acer 4002 wlmi laptop
[10:30] <revarc> deFrysk, have done both of those things, same errors.
[10:30] <lars> And i want to use wireless internet
[10:31] <deFrysk> revarc, and it runs fine on the nv module ?
[10:31] <dpro\> Hfuy, try to modprobe something like toshiba-acpi
[10:31] <Zeke1> esac_, gives me this: fglrx                 262392  0
[10:31] <lars> But when i'm using Kanotix everything is automatic, and no i have to install drivers :S
[10:31] <Hfuy> dpro\: What would that do
[10:31] <revarc> defrysk, yes the nv module is fine
[10:31] <butcherbird> lars, you have a wireless pcmcia card?
[10:31] <lars> no it's intergrated
[10:31] <dpro\> load the acpi module for you toshiba laptop, and then it should work
[10:31] <Hfuy> ah
[10:31] <deFrysk> revarc, what message is it giving when x fails ?
[10:31] <Hfuy> how would we then control it
[10:32] <esac_> Zeke1: ok, try:   sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[10:32] <dpro\> Hfuy, with fnfx it an app especially for toshiba hardware
[10:32] <esac_> Zeke1: then try a restart again
[10:32] <butcherbird> lars, is ubuntu detecting it?
[10:33] <Zeke1> esac_,  exactly kile that or my version where uname is?
[10:33] <revarc> deFrysk, (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA graphics device!(EE) NVIDIA(0):  *** Aborting ***(II) UnloadModule: "nvidia" (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
[10:33] <lars> nope, when i'm using this command in konsole to look if it is detected ifconfig it's detecting
[10:33] <Hfuy> dpro\: fnfx?
[10:33] <Hfuy> is that preinstalled, or do we have to go get it?
[10:33] <esac_> Zeke1: exactly kile that
[10:33] <deFrysk> revarc, is your monitor properly detected ?
[10:33] <Hfuy> and it's an executable command?
[10:33] <dpro\> Hfuy, you have to get it
[10:33] <Zeke1> esac_,  ok that ave me a whole bunch of errors...can i paste it on the website?
[10:33] <Hfuy> dpro\: OK, how?
[10:33] <revarc> deFrysk, yes it is.
[10:34] <dpro\> ehm wait
[10:34] <esac_> Zeke1: of course
[10:34] <Zeke1> esac_,  ok i pasted it
[10:34] <dpro\> Hfuy, sudo apt-get install fnfxd
[10:34] <Hfuy> fnfxd?
[10:34] <deFrysk> revarc,  tried a lower screenresolution ?
[10:34] <Hfuy> Ah.
[10:35] <Hfuy> FN hot keys
[10:35] <dpro\> Hfuy, its a daemon running in the background
[10:35] <Hfuy> once installed, will it autorun at boot?
[10:35] <dpro\> Hfuy, yeah it should do that
[10:35] <esac_> Zeke1: whoa, it looks like you really need to upgrade your system :)
[10:35] <Hfuy> ok.
[10:35] <deFrysk> revarc, one more possibillity, do you have on board videocard ?
[10:36] <Hfuy> But the modprobe only lasts one boot iirc...
[10:36] <revarc> deFrysk, no I have not.  which begs another question my login screen in X is always at 1792x1344, but after I log in it changes to whatever I have it set to which right now is 1920x1440
[10:36] <Hfuy> how do I make that permanent
[10:36] <Zeke1> esac_,  ok but i just installed the latest ubuntu i could find? what do i need to do
[10:36] <revarc> defrysk, no onboard video
[10:36] <esac_> Zeke1: try "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and then after that just do a reboot. if fglrx still doesn't work, then we can start from there
[10:37] <deFrysk> revarc, sorry I am out of possibilities exept set the reolution lower in xorg.conf
[10:37] <CookedGryphon> are there any tools for linux to convert pdf files into something editable?
[10:37] <revarc> defrysk, ok ty I'll give it a try, I just dont' hold out much hope.  ty for your time.
[10:37] <deFrysk> revarc, good luck
[10:38] <Hfuy> dpro\: "modprobe toshiba-acpi" responds with "fatal error: could not open /proc/acpi/toshiba/keys"
[10:38] <deFrysk> revarc, huge screen you have btw :)
[10:38] <Hfuy> CookedGryphon: PDF is not editable suddenly?
[10:39] <CookedGryphon> Hfuy, not with the ubuntu default install
[10:39] <Hfuy> Oh.
[10:39] <CookedGryphon> not that i can see
[10:39] <Hfuy> It's certainly doable in Acrobat.
[10:39] <dmacdonald111> Hi all.
[10:39] <loststryk> :)
[10:39] <Zeke1> esac_,  i got some errors again..i pasted it
[10:39] <dmacdonald111> Can anyone help with locating bcmwl5 to use with ndiswrapper? I have been trawling the internet with absolutely no luck :(
[10:40] <esac_> Zeke1: can you try running sudo apt-get update a few times to see if it eventually works? looks like something is getting corrupted when its downloading
[10:41] <Zeke1> esac_,  OK IM RUNNING DIST-UPGRADE ASWELL
[10:41] <Zeke1> esac_, if i keep trying will it eventaully work?
[10:41] <Eddy_> hello
[10:41] <esac_> Zeke1: i can't be sure, i haven't had that issue
[10:41] <Eddy_> can someone help me, i have problems with GRUB
[10:41] <poningru> what?
[10:42] <Hfuy> dpro\: Big scary error I don't understand when modprobeing toshiba-acpi
[10:42] <benkong2> what else can I try adding 8139cp to /etc/hotplug/blacklist did not fix the boot error.
[10:42] <poningru> just ask the question
[10:42] <AdmiralSenn> more questions, everyone
[10:42] <Zeke1> esac_,  wont i be able to get it from somewhere else?
[10:42] <AdmiralSenn> when Ubuntu installs on the default ext2fs, is the default blocksize 4096?
[10:42] <Oetzi> hi
[10:42] <dmacdonald111> I need help getting my wireless network working.
[10:42] <Hfuy> "unknown symbol in module or unknown paramater (see dmesg)"
[10:42] <dpro\> Hfuy, yeah i know, the same thing here, that is because it doesnt work with all Toshiba laptops
[10:42] <Eddy_> poningru i installed breezy over hoary, everything went fine, but when it came to installing GRUB, it failed, and now i get a GRUB failure (error 15) when i boot, and cannot reinstall Breezy from the CD.
[10:43] <Oetzi> i have problem with mplayer fullscreen
[10:43] <deFrysk> benkong2, is it about using 8139too instead
[10:43] <deFrysk> ?
[10:43] <benkong2> deFrysk; yes
[10:43] <poningru> Eddy_: hmm you have to rebuild grub
[10:43] <poningru> hold on
[10:43] <deFrysk> benkong2, thats not an error, thats a message
[10:43] <Hfuy> dpro\: So what's happened here, just to be clear, is that we've tried to insert a special toshiba kernel module for ACPI, and it's failed for some reason
[10:43] <jnk> Oetzi, which problem?
[10:43] <Oetzi> when i try to start in fullscreen des video doesn't zoom
[10:43] <Hfuy> (I have a bug in about busted hibernate on this machine, to which I will add this information)
[10:44] <Oetzi> it remain in old size
[10:44] <deFrysk> benkong2, so leave it as it is ;)
[10:44] <benkong2> ok so I don't have to worry
[10:44] <benkong2> ok...now on to the others
[10:44] <Oetzi> and the rest of screen becomes black
[10:44] <benkong2> deFrysk; thanks
[10:44] <deFrysk> benkong2, I have the same message ;)
[10:45] <poningru> Eddy_: its the file not found thing right?
[10:45] <benkong2> deFrysk; k since it's not an error I can live with it. do you have these also? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2619
[10:45] <Eddy_> poningru i don't think so
[10:45] <AdmiralSenn> anyone know about ubuntu's device options when it installs?
[10:46] <Eddy_> poningru i think that the Ubuntu install failed to install GRUB because GRUB was actually already there. but it seems it messed everything up, and now i get an Error 15 when GRUB starts, and the PC is then stuck there
[10:46] <deFrysk> benkong2, errors wich will be fixed during debugging of breezy
[10:47] <benkong2> they are ok thanks I roll along then
[10:47] <Oetzi> does anyone know how to solve the problem
[10:47] <deFrysk> benkong2, they are not ok but harmless
[10:47] <revarc> deFrysk, setting the res lower did not help. :(  Oh well, was worth a shot.
[10:48] <deFrysk> benkong2, for us that is :D
[10:48] <rob__> hello - can I get help here?
[10:48] <benkong2> I can wait the upgrade that I got this morning took mu usplash and gave me those errors
[10:48] <poningru> Eddy_: hmm
[10:48] <Eddy_> poningru what i'm looking for would be something very simple, like a way to remove GRUB from the boot, so it can be installed again
[10:48] <Adridon> why is the http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/main/binary-i386/ directory empty? does anybody know the problem? are there other backport servers?
[10:48] <AdmiralSenn> I can't believe nobody knows what blocksize ubuntu uses by default
[10:48] <Spudchat> hi everyone
[10:48] <deFrysk> revarc, sorry :(
[10:48] <rob__> hey
[10:48] <benkong2> I really liked looking at that cool splash screen.
[10:48] <Spudchat> can someone help me add a location to my $PATH
[10:48] <poningru> Eddy_: does that thing take floppys?
[10:48] <Spudchat> im in the bash_profile
[10:48] <benkong2> rob__ ask the question
[10:48] <Eddy_> poningru nah, only CDs =/
[10:49] <AdmiralSenn> export $PATH=path_to_something, I think?
[10:49] <lexton> hello all
[10:49] <poningru> crap
[10:49] <AdmiralSenn> -?
[10:49] <deFrysk> benkong2, as soon as there is an error the splash screen goes
[10:49] <deFrysk> thats why
[10:49] <lexton> I'm trying to get mac os x to boot in yaboot
[10:49] <Spudchat> add that in?
[10:49] <AdmiralSenn> just type it in the terminal
[10:49] <Spudchat> ooo ok
[10:49] <lexton> I've set -> macosx=/dev/hda5
[10:49] <AdmiralSenn> you can try it in the profile thing
[10:49] <poningru> Eddy_: hold on
[10:49] <lexton> but yaboot won't recognize it
[10:49] <Eddy_> poningru i can set up a LAN though, but i'm not sure it's easy to boot on the network... i don't know how to configure it.
[10:49] <Eddy_> poningru sure =)
[10:49] <AdmiralSenn> if I still had my linux partition I could tell you for sure if that syntax is right
[10:49] <benkong2> deFrysk;  yeah funny thing my other kernel will still boot with usplash
[10:50] <deFrysk> benkong2, yup :)
[10:50] <rob__> I am trying to install the KDE desktop - how?
[10:50] <deFrysk> night folks
[10:50] <jnk> Oetzi, did you get my message about the terminal before I was disconnected?
[10:50] <darkheart> rob__ 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'
[10:50] <Oetzi> nope
[10:50] <jnk> Oetzi, try this: open a terminal, then type exactly this: mkdir .mplayer; echo vo=xv >> .mplayer/config
[10:50] <AdmiralSenn> grrr... I don't want to risk losing all this stuff!
[10:51] <Hfuy> when it says "see dmesg" what does that mean?
[10:51] <jnk> Hfuy, type dmesg in a terminal
[10:51] <rob__> darkheart   -I did that but it says the package not found
[10:51] <dpro\> type dmesg
[10:51] <Oetzi> k thx jnk
[10:51] <darkheart> Hfuy Type 'dmesg' in a console
[10:51] <darkheart> !tell rob__ about repositories
[10:51] <Hfuy> OK
[10:51] <mikeyb> hardware issue..... when ever i try and connect some new piece of hardware...for example front usb connectors to the MB or a new cdrom ubuntu has a kernal panic and can't boot till i remove the hardware.... why
[10:52] <poningru> Eddy_: can you boot up from another cd?
[10:52] <Oetzi> jnk: it works thx
[10:52] <poningru> like an ubuntu live cd?
[10:52] <AdmiralSenn> when Ubuntu installs on the default ext2fs, is the default blocksize 4096?
[10:52] <eagleye> Can someone help me... I went to start my freshly installed and updated unbuntu sytem and it says grub loading please wait error 18, What does this mean and is there a way to fix it
[10:52] <Eddy_> i'd have to download it first =S can't i do something using the regular Install CD ?
[10:53] <benkong2> can breezy ubuntu have kbuntu added?
[10:53] <test34> AdmiralSenn, can I ask why you need to know ?
[10:53] <poningru> Eddy_: hmm nm still looking
[10:53] <AdmiralSenn> test34, because I'm about to try a mke2fs option to fix it, and if the blocksize is wrong it's all ruined
[10:53] <test34> AdmiralSenn, ahh ok
[10:53] <jnk> Oetzi, no problem (you've just put in the mplayer config file a line where it says to use XV as video output. The same as using  mplayer with a command like "mplayer -vo xv movie.avi")
[10:54] <Oetzi> yes i know what the line did
[10:54] <mikeyb> hardware issue..... when ever i try and connect some new piece of hardware...for example front usb connectors to the MB or a new cdrom ubuntu has a kernal panic and can't boot till i remove the hardware.... why
[10:54] <Oetzi> ;D
[10:54] <jnk> :)
[10:54] <Oetzi> so i did it with vi
[10:54] <jnk> lol
[10:54] <Oetzi> because i had another wrong vo-line in the config
[10:55] <rob__> darkheart repositories?
[10:55] <mikeyb> anyone?
[10:55] <jnk> Oetzi, mmm depending on how you installed mplayer maybe you could justs have done a "dpkg-reconfigure mplayer"
[10:55] <poningru> Eddy_: dude when you start up your comp what happens?
[10:56] <Eddy_> poningru GRUB loads. GRUB stops because of Error 15. Then nothing.
[10:56] <poningru> hmm
[10:56] <Oetzi> i have made an apt-get install mplayer-686
[10:56] <poningru> Eddy_: can you try something
[10:56] <jdong> hey, is it possible to get Epiphany mouse gestures to work off the right button?
[10:56] <poningru> when that comes up try hitting the e key
[10:56] <Eddy_> poningru sure, in the present state, nothing can be of any additional harm ;)
[10:56] <poningru> its supposed to edit
[10:56] <rob__> thx - got it...
[10:56] <Eddy_> ok, will try
[10:56] <poningru> hehe
[10:57] <mikeyb> anyone?
[10:57] <poningru> also another thing do you have a windows bootable cd?
[10:57] <mikeyb> hardware issue..... when ever i try and connect some new piece of hardware...for example front usb connectors to the MB or a new cdrom ubuntu has a kernal panic and can't boot till i remove the hardware.... why
[10:57] <eagleye> Can someone help me... I went to start my freshly installed and updated unbuntu sytem and it says grub loading please wait error 18, What does this mean and is there a way to fix it
[10:57] <logan001101> shinu: cant find anything with 'apt-cache search mdf iso'
[10:57] <Oetzi> but i have used an restored an old config-file from an backup-dvd from my old notebook
[10:57] <Eddy_> poningru yeah but there's a problem
[10:57] <AdmiralSenn> well, I'm getting frustrated now
[10:57] <test34> AdmiralSenn, try fdisk -l [device] 
[10:57] <Oetzi> and there was a line vo=vesa that was the problem
[10:57] <logan001101> shinu: cant find anything with 'apt-cache search mdf iso'
[10:57] <PShivers> eagleye: I got the same, I just reinstalled it
[10:57] <eagleye> oh no
[10:57] <marco_g> eagleye: Did you enable LBA support in the BIOS?
[10:58] <eagleye> everything was perfect last night new install
[10:58] <eagleye> no,
[10:58] <AdmiralSenn> test34, that doesn't say anything about block size
[10:58] <mikeyb> any admins here that can help?
[10:58] <poningru>  Eddy_ ?
[10:58] <logan001101> shinu: cant find anything with 'apt-cache search mdf iso'
[10:59] <Eddy_> poningru didn't work
[10:59] <B_166-ER-X> how do i make x-chat to open on startup ?
[10:59] <mikeyb> bum
[10:59] <logan001101> how can i covert .mdf file to .iso one??
[10:59] <poningru> Eddy_: hmm about that windows cd do you have that?
[10:59] <Skid> when exporting your GPG )as per the wiki) - it says gpg --export -a {{{User Name}}} >public.key - does the username part mean your linux user account name, or your realname ?
[10:59] <logan001101> how can i covert .mdf file to .iso one??
[10:59] <Oetzi> know i only have to wait until Xorg locale bug is fixed then breezy works perfect
[10:59] <marco_g> eagleye: LBA support should be enabled, if it is not (or if the computer is too old) you have to use a small boot partition at the beginning of the disk.
[10:59] <logan001101> how can i covert .mdf file to .iso one??
[10:59] <mikeyb> need help.... any takers?
[10:59] <Eddy_> poningru yeah i have that
[10:59] <test34> AdmiralSenn, it gives you the number of blocks, you can figure it out
[10:59] <marco_g> Oetzi: What kind of bug is that?
[10:59] <eagleye> marco_g Will that solve the problem. without reinstalling
[10:59] <Skid> !gpg
[10:59] <ubotu> hmm... gpg is at http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kf1.html#h2add
[11:00] <Eddy_> poningru but the only mean i have found to get a console is to use the "recovery tool"
[11:00] <marco_g> eagleye: No.
[11:00] <poningru> Eddy_: can you boot in using that and get onto a console?
[11:00] <poningru> oh
[11:00] <Eddy_> poningru which then asks for a password. and for some reason it doesn't accept my password.
[11:00] <AdmiralSenn> test34, don't see blocks anywhere in that
[11:00] <poningru> hmm ic
[11:00] <Oetzi> marco_g: i want to use iso-8859-15
[11:00] <marco_g> ah :)
[11:00] <Eddy_> i don't get it since i've use the same pass for eveyrthing for years, but...
[11:00] <logan001101> plz help, how can i covert .mdf file to .iso one??
[11:00] <Oetzi> de_DE@euro locale
[11:00] <Eddy_> poningru it was to try the old fdisk /mbr trick right ? ^^
[11:01] <poningru> Eddy_: yeah
[11:01] <Skid> when exporting your GPG )as per the wiki) - it says gpg --export -a {{{User Name}}} >public.key - does the username part mean your linux user account name, or your realname ?
[11:01] <Eddy_> poningru and there's no way to do that under linux ? i haven't read anything like that in forums but you never know...
[11:01] <eagleye> this really bites.. I wish i knew that earlier..
[11:01] <poningru> Eddy_: I would say that you need a live cd
[11:01] <rebort> im having a ig oem with ug 16479
[11:01] <Lars_G> I want breezy I need breezy!
[11:01] <Oetzi> but my fluxbox tells me that this locale is not supported
[11:01] <logan001101> plz help, how can i covert .mdf file to .iso one??
[11:01] <mikeyb> hardware issue..... when ever i try and connect some new piece of hardware...for example front usb connectors to the MB or a new cdrom ubuntu has a kernal panic and can't boot till i remove the hardware.... why
[11:01] <atha> logan001101: how about wine + isobuster
[11:01] <poningru> and mess with the grub.lst files
[11:01] <Lars_G> someone send me to october right now!! I want a pressed stable breezy! I crave it!
[11:01] <test34> AdmiralSenn, try sudo fdisk -l
[11:02] <Eddy_> poningru admitting i have one now, how would i do that ? i'll probably won't be able to do it before tomorrow...
[11:02] <rebort> you dont want ezy!
[11:02] <logan001101> atha: ??
[11:02] <rebort> eezy destroys your keyoard
[11:02] <Eddy_> where's that file ? because you can launch a console with the regular install Cd, using the expert mode
[11:02] <logan001101> atha: what do u mean?
[11:02] <AdmiralSenn> test34, thanks
[11:02] <dany-boy> re...
[11:02] <logan001101> atha: what is isobuster
[11:02] <Oetzi> Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib
[11:02] <atha> logan001101: how about using google
[11:03] <logan001101> atha: already used it
[11:03] <Spudchat> i gave in and just moved my shell scripts
[11:03] <poningru> Eddy_: hmm true hold on let me just give you the website
[11:03] <Oetzi> marco_g: the bug is already reported to http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13724
[11:03] <Eddy_> poningru couldn't find it on GRUB's website, but if you can i'd like the link yes =) thanks a lot
[11:03] <logan001101> atha: just get MagicISO which i hv to use it in windows
[11:03] <AdmiralSenn> test34, how do I get the blocksize from that?
[11:04] <AdmiralSenn> test34, I subtracted the "Start" from "End" and divided the number of blocks by that number
[11:04] <marco_g> Oetzi: Right, I have seen those messages.
[11:04] <rebort> has anyone seen http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16479 eviously?
[11:04] <lexton> I have a question about mac os x and yaboot
[11:04] <AdmiralSenn> but it gave me 8000 something
[11:05] <lexton> I've set --> macosx=/dev/hda5 in yaboot.conf
[11:05] <logan001101> atha: help, i need to play warcraft in linux :((
[11:05] <test34> AdmiralSenn, get the size of the partition/number of blocks ?
[11:05] <lexton> but it won't give me an option to boot into mac os x
[11:05] <logan001101> atha: just kidding :D
[11:05] <AdmiralSenn> test34, yes
[11:05] <jc-denton> hi al
[11:05] <lexton> even manually setting macosx won't work
[11:05] <jc-denton> all
[11:05] <jc-denton> i always  get the following error msg when using gtk apps
[11:05] <Oetzi> marco_g: do you know any solution to this
[11:05] <jc-denton> (gedit:20524): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib
[11:06] <jc-denton> $LANG is en_US
[11:06] <jc-denton> i think it's becacue it was first set to unicode then i set it back to this
[11:06] <marco_g> Oetzi: No...
[11:06] <poningru> Eddy_: I cant get a good tutorial website
[11:06] <eagleye> marco_g Hey, lba mode is enabled..I need to solve this, this is crazy, I reinstalled 4 times already and got help setting up.. I cant keep doing this..
[11:06] <poningru> hold on
[11:06] <logan001101> any help, need to find some stuff to covert mds or mdf file to iso one
[11:06] <marco_g> eagleye: Is it a very old PC or so?
[11:06] <Eddy_> poningru yeah, i couldn't either, that's why i came here =/ it seems no one knows how to do when you can't use a boot disk =/
[11:07] <eagleye> 1.8 gig nvidia card
[11:07] <remyforb1s777>  '
[11:07] <john_l> I'm going to install a windows boot so that I can game once in awhile, but grub is installed to the harddrive i'm formatting... what do I need to do to make sure I can get to this drive after I install windows?
[11:07] <AdmiralSenn> test34, yes I have the number of blocks, what now?
[11:07] <Oetzi> jc-denton: the problem is that my fluxbox, aterm and several other progs do not work because of this error
[11:08] <remyforb1s777> quit
[11:08] <Oetzi> so im using posix know
[11:08] <jc-denton> Oetzi: wtf
[11:08] <jc-denton> my fluxbox work
[11:08] <jc-denton> works
[11:08] <sadrul> hi. which repository should i use to get something strictly `better' (or more) than gtk2.6.8?
[11:08] <logan001101> any help, need to find some stuff to covert mds or mdf file to iso one
[11:08] <AdmiralSenn> logan001101, google it
[11:08] <eagleye> marco_g Its not that bad or old..
[11:08] <coccobill> ciao
[11:09] <poningru> Eddy_: try this
[11:09] <logan001101> AdmiralSenn: i said i had already google it
[11:09] <paul_> hello
[11:09] <AdmiralSenn> I didn't see that
[11:09] <nerp\a\> hmm, anyone familiar with the way ubuntu handles bash comletion vs other distros.. trying to get a list of probable options to pop up when i type a string<tab> rather than having to be so specific
[11:09] <Oetzi> jc-denton: it starts but there are no fonts shown and in aterm  an so on do not work
[11:10] <logan001101> any help, need to find some stuff to covert mds or mdf file to iso one :(( ooooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[11:10] <jc-denton> Oetzi: yes
[11:10] <marco_g> eagleye: It seems it cannot boot your system....
[11:10] <jc-denton> but i had some more problemes with unicode
[11:10] <nerp\a\> for example if I type ap<tab> appollon aprophryon appelgator will pop up
[11:10] <Eddy_> poningru yeah ?
[11:10] <marco_g> eagleye: I would use a small /boot at the beginning of the disk in that case.
[11:10] <ompaul> nerp\a\, I don't understand if you type a(tab tab) all 'a' options appear
[11:10] <jc-denton> Oetzi: so u mean i should simply switch back the locales to unicode?
[11:11] <poningru> Eddy_: see what you have to do is reinstall grub
[11:11] <nico8481> hi
[11:11] <dseomn> when I try to install hoary on an AMD-K6, it freezes during the kernel boot (the last message is "Checking 'bit' instruction...")
[11:11] <nerp\a\> doh! it's <tab tab> .. I am used to hitting tab ONCE
[11:11] <test34> AdmiralSenn, get the size of the partition divided by number of blocks maybe?
[11:11] <poningru> trying to find a good tutorial website for that
[11:11] <eagleye> marco, it was working fine, Do you mean set a small partition
[11:11] <marco_g> eagleye: It suddenly stopped working?
[11:11] <Eddy_> ok, i'll try, but just to be sure: you didn't give me any link, right ? because none appeared, that's why i said "?" =)
[11:11] <kb9way> apt get dunt work on my box
[11:11] <Oetzi> jc-denton: i'm using POSIX C encoding since yesterday
[11:12] <ompaul> !tell poningru about grub
[11:12] <AdmiralSenn> test34, that gives me a tiny little number
[11:12] <jc-denton> Oetzi: ?
[11:12] <jc-denton> the oli issue i have is with gtk apps
[11:12] <jc-denton> i dont need umlauts in terminal
[11:12] <nico8481> how can i add languages to the supported languages of the spellchecker in Evolution or OpenOffice? I can only select variants of english [UK/US]  and I'd like to add French
[11:12] <Oetzi> yes me too
[11:12] <AdmiralSenn> test34, wait a minute
[11:12] <poningru> Eddy_: http://www.sorgonet.com/linux/grubrestore/
[11:12] <eagleye> marco, I reinstalled last night with new hard drive, had help setting up and everything was good.... Shut down last night, today went to start it and got error 18
[11:12] <test34> AdmiralSenn, use bytes ?
[11:13] <ompaul> nico8481, apt-cache search spell | grep fr
[11:13] <poningru> Eddy_: dont know if those commands will work from the expert mode
[11:13] <AdmiralSenn> it's 1024
[11:13] <AdmiralSenn> never mind
[11:13] <Oetzi> using this encoding workes well against the gtk-problem
[11:13] <marco_g> eagleye: Did it reboot after installing?
[11:13] <Eddy_> poningru yeah, thanks, found that one, am reading... but i might have trouble finding the files in question since i cannot really access my own disk =S
[11:13] <eagleye> marco, today was first time to reboot
[11:14] <poningru> Eddy_: why cant you access your disk?
[11:14] <LasseL> how can I play a "mpc" music file?
[11:14] <poningru> the password thing?
[11:14] <AdmiralSenn> okay, I'm going to do it!
[11:14] <nico8481> ompaul, "aspell-fr"? is that all I need,
[11:14] <nico8481> ?
[11:14] <rebort> no one has seen http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16479?
[11:14] <Oetzi> and the umlauts are only shown because my irssi runs on my shell server with encoding iso-8859-1
[11:14] <atha> nico8481: language-support-fr metapackage "This metapackage depends on all packages that provide native language support for the various applications in Ubuntu (like various spell checkers, dictionaries, OpenOffice and Mozilla locale packages, etc."
[11:15] <kb9way> ok i fixed my aptget problim
[11:15] <ompaul> Eddy_, you can - > sudo -i < in a terminal  cd /boot/grub and the file you want is called menu.lst - note that you can read this on  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto
[11:15] <dseomn> LasseL: install gstreamer0.8-musepack
[11:15] <kb9way> i was a dummy and mistyped sumtin
[11:15] <nico8481> atha, thanks
[11:15] <Oetzi> on local machine there are no umlauts in the terminal
[11:15] <Eddy_> poningru how do i access my linux partition from the expert mode ? they say the root filesystem is in RAM, and the disk is on /target, but cd /target tells me it cannot access it
[11:15] <ompaul> nico8481, s http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto  also
[11:15] <LasseL> dseomn, thanks
[11:15] <ompaul> nico8481, woops
[11:15] <poningru> Eddy_: I think you have to mount it
[11:15] <Eddy_> ompaul i have read that, thanks, but my problem is HOW do i do to access a console
[11:15] <ompaul> nico8481, openoffice.org-l10n-fr - French language package for OpenOffice.org
[11:16] <yoyas> nas
[11:16] <Oetzi> jc-denton: just try it
[11:16] <nico8481> thx
[11:16] <ompaul> Eddy_, applications system tools terminal
[11:16] <dseomn> when I try to install hoary on an AMD-K6, it freezes during the kernel boot (the last message is "Checking 'bit' instruction..."); any ideas?
[11:16] <Eddy_> ompaul you haven't read my problem. when GRUB loads, GRUB stops, ERROR 15, and i can't do anything else
[11:16] <ompaul> ahhh
[11:16] <nico8481> which tool is used by such software (evolution/OOo) to check spelling? aspell? myspell?
[11:16] <jc-denton> Oetzi: when doing dpkg-reconfigure locales
[11:17] <jc-denton> i have the choice between en_US ISO something and UTF
[11:17] <eagleye> Eddy I have same problem, just error 18
[11:17] <nico8481> or is-il built-in?
[11:17] <nico8481> "is it"
[11:17] <dseomn> nico8481: IIRC evo uses aspell and ooo uses myspell
[11:17] <Eddy_> eagleye tough huh ? =/
[11:17] <nico8481> k
[11:17] <butcherbird> Eddy_, you have multiple hd or just one?
[11:17] <LasseL> dseomn, which repository should I use?
[11:17] <remyforbes777> anyone use ubuntu 64
[11:17] <Oetzi> jc-denton: or if you have a machine with running hoary you also can try the solution on bugzilla comment #1
[11:17] <Eddy_> butcherbird just one, but with a lot of partitions
[11:17] <remyforbes777> i cant seem to get it to work in my amd turion 64 laptop
[11:17] <Oetzi> jc-denton: i didn't reconfigure locales
[11:17] <jc-denton> Oetzi: solution on bugzilla?
[11:18] <remyforbes777> freezes at login
[11:18] <eagleye> yeah, need help
[11:18] <ompaul> Eddy_, I was not here for that, okay first up you can do some evil stuff with the install disk where you do everything but do not reinstall the os just do the grub bit  have you got a live CD?
[11:18] <jc-denton> i have breezy no hoary
[11:18] <dseomn> LasseL: it's in main on breezy, it might not be in hoary/warty, what are you using?
[11:18] <jaku> do you know where I can find a gui to help me to see wmv file with breezy?
[11:18] <LasseL> dseomn, hoary
[11:18] <butcherbird> Eddy_, including a windows partition?
[11:18] <Oetzi> jc-denton: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13724
[11:18] <Oetzi> try solution from comment #1
[11:18] <Eddy_> ompaul when i try to install only GRUB from the expert mode of the install CD, there is an error, i cannot install it
[11:19] <Eddy_> butcherbird yes, including an XP OS, and 3 NTFS partitions
[11:19] <ompaul> Eddy_, have you got a live CD ?
[11:19] <Eddy_> ompaul no, i have only an Install CD
[11:19] <Oetzi> if you have another machine using hoary
[11:19] <ompaul> Eddy_, know where you could get one?
[11:20] <jc-denton> Oetzi: thank you
[11:20] <butcherbird> Eddy_,  you might check and see if windows is switched to bootable.  For some unknowable reason grub didnt work until i did that
[11:20] <butcherbird> shouldnt matter..
[11:20] <dseomn> LasseL: sorry, it's not in hoary
[11:20] <Oetzi> i couldn't test this because my notebook with the problem runs breezy and all other machines run debian sarge
[11:20] <Eddy_> ompaul i could download one, but not before tomorrow, and then i still wouldn't know what to do =)
[11:20] <eagleye> ompaul, will that restore a install, I get error 18 when grub starts
[11:20] <LasseL> dseomn, thanks anyway
[11:21] <Eddy_> butcherbird GRUB used to work with Hoary, but there was a problem when i installed Breezy, for some reason it crashed, and now i'm stuck =/
[11:21] <AdmiralSenn> haha
[11:21] <AdmiralSenn> hahahaahahahaha
[11:21] <AdmiralSenn> IT LIVES
[11:21] <AdmiralSenn> I think
[11:21] <AdmiralSenn> oh hell
[11:21] <Oetzi> but i thought about downloading hoary livecd grep all needed files from there and try it
[11:21] <AdmiralSenn> it's gone
[11:21] <jc-denton> Oetzi: i'm wondering when it will be fixed
[11:21] <Oetzi> jc-denton: i hope soon
[11:22] <protok0l> hello all
[11:22] <protok0l> i need some help
[11:22] <dseomn> just ask
[11:22] <Oetzi> because breezy is the only dist really supports all hardware in my notebook
[11:22] <ompaul> Eddy_, it appears that there are a couple of things that error 15 can mean which is yours?
[11:22] <protok0l> i just checked for upgrades and it says i need a lot of packages, and its removing things like fam and the trashapplet
[11:22] <protok0l> is that right?
 because breezy is the only dist really supports all hardware in my notebook <== my point was to test that, but it kind of failed ^^
[11:22] <Eddy_> ompaul how would i know ,
[11:23] <dseomn> protok0l: what are you upgrading? breezy => breezy? hoary => breezy?
[11:23] <Eddy_> ompaul it displays nothing else than Error 15
[11:23] <ompaul> ahh
[11:23] <eagleye> I asked for help, but no answers yet.. error 18 when grub starts
[11:23] <Eddy_> GRUB loading, please wait...
[11:23] <Eddy_> Error 15
[11:23] <Eddy_> =)
[11:24] <Eddy_> (the =) is added by me)
[11:24] <ompaul> eagleye, you asked me I am busy I mioght be back if you have patients
[11:24] <eagleye> ok thanks
[11:24] <protok0l> i had hoary and i dont believe i added any breezy repos
[11:24] <ompaul> Eddy_, at that time hit enter and it might give more info
[11:24] <Oetzi> so I have to go to bed now because i have to be to work 6:00AM tomorrow
[11:24] <Oetzi> good night everyone
[11:24] <kb9way> (synaptic:29948): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_tree_view_unref_tree_helper: assertion `node != NULL' failed
[11:24] <Eddy_> ompaul Enter does nothing, prompt is prompting, nothing else
[11:24] <loststryk> bed ? that a new fangled concept or something ?
[11:24] <kb9way> what does that error meen
[11:24] <ompaul> Eddy_, ohh that is not nice
[11:24] <Eddy_> is it ^^
[11:25] <dseomn> protok0l: if you just have hoary repos, nothing be removed (only security updates are allowed)
[11:25] <protok0l> dseomn, so could my apt be broken?
[11:25] <protok0l> it shows alot of old version needing upgrading
[11:25] <kb9way> (synaptic:29948): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_tree_view_unref_tree_helper: assertion `node != NULL' failed
[11:25] <Eddy_> if anyone knows how to fdisk /mbr from a winXP bootable CD WITHOUT having to go in the recovery console, i'd be glad
[11:25] <kb9way> what does this meen
[11:25] <dseomn> protok0l: what version of hoary are you upgrading from? the final stable version or an old dev version?
[11:26] <loststryk> get a win98 boot disk
[11:26] <loststryk> www.bootdisk.com i think
[11:26] <protok0l> final stable afaik
[11:26] <protok0l> i installed it off a cd
[11:26] <Eddy_> loststryk i have no floppy, so no, but thanks
[11:26] <ompaul> eagleye, this is what I got online for your error - looks like bad install  18 : Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS. This error is returned when a read is attempted at a linear block address beyond the end of the BIOS translated area. This generally happens if your disk is larger than the BIOS can handle (512MB for (E)IDE disks on older machines or larger than 8GB in general). Try an update for your BIOS and/or move yo
[11:26] <ompaul> ur boot partition to the front (or at least into the appropriate range).
[11:26] <loststryk> ok
[11:26] <protok0l> and it did some updating before x loaded
[11:26] <dseomn> protok0l: are you *sure* you have no breezy (or hoary-backports) enabled?
[11:26] <ompaul> Eddy_, okay 15 is usually a missing file or pointing to the wrong place
[11:27] <protok0l> i turned off backports and updated
[11:27] <protok0l> ill try again
[11:27] <rebort> i cant ty 3 letters cause o ug http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16479?
[11:27] <karen> hi----- is there a easy photo editor that I can download ?
[11:27] <loststryk> karen, tried gimp ?
[11:27] <Eddy_> ompaul you have to understand that whenever i use Ubuntu's install menu to install GRUB, isays there's an error and that it is impossible. so there must be something else at work than just a missing file.
[11:27] <dseomn> kb9way: it's probably nothing, is it related to any other problems?
[11:27] <rebort> karen: the gim
[11:27] <ompaul> Eddy_,  did not know that
[11:27] <kb9way> no i just see it in the console window
[11:28] <Eddy_> ompaul yeah, quite confusing with all those lines huh =P
[11:28] <ompaul> Eddy_,  okay so you never had a working system>?
[11:28] <dseomn> kb9way: ignore it then, those things happen all the time
[11:28] <kb9way> ok
[11:28] <karen> rebort--- new to this , where do i go to download that editor
[11:29] <loststryk> karen, shoudl already be installed
[11:29] <dseomn> karen: it's installed by default, just go to Applications => Graphics => GIMP Image Editor
[11:29] <hhurtta> normally ubuntu runs using utf8, right?
[11:29] <dseomn> hhurtta: yes
[11:29] <Eddy_> ompaul i had. i used to have a perfectly working WinXP/Hoary dual boot managed by GRUB. when i tried to install (reformatting the linux partitions) Breezy "over" Hoary, the install went fine, until it reached the install of GRUB, which failed. when i rebooted next, GRUB displayed an error.
[11:29] <karen> thank you guys, very helpful.
[11:29] <hans> will mira scan driver ever be translated to linux?
[11:29] <Eddy_> now, when i try to reinstall GRUB, i have an error, and just cannot
[11:30] <eagleye> ompaul, didnt get  last part of your message, and/or move yo
[11:30] <hhurtta> is there any way to make some application, eg gnome terminal to run with iso8859-15 by default?
[11:30] <ompaul> eagleye, next line after the other stuff
[11:30] <Eddy_> eagleye and/or move your boot partition to the front (or at least into the appropriate range).
[11:30] <dseomn> hhurtta: not all apps can, but gnome-terminal can
[11:31] <ompaul> Eddy_, so you have data on that hoary install you want to keep?
[11:31] <dseomn> hhurtta: (in g-t) Terminal => Set Character Encoding... => <select latin15>
[11:31] <hhurtta> dseomn: I can change that on the fly, but I does not do that by default
[11:31] <eagleye> ompaul, does that mean make a small partition for install?
[11:31] <hyperactivecrond> hey all
[11:31] <ompaul> Eddy_, is your /home on a different partition to / ?
[11:32] <dseomn> hhurtta: sorry, I don't know how to do it by default
[11:32] <erUSUL> hhurtta: why do you want this?
[11:32] <dseomn> hi hyperactivecrond
[11:32] <Eddy_> ompaul no, i've done the backup work already. it's only the GRUB thing that bothers me, i'm quite experienced with comps in general, so no problem on that side =) my problem is just that GRUB crashes, and i don't know how to reset/remove it with only the install CD
[11:32] <Eddy_> ompaul i never had the occasion to access my /home since GRUB crashed first boot. however, since i have not specified anything, i guess it is.
[11:32] <hhurtta> erUSUL: I have screen+irssi running on external server which uses latin15.
[11:33] <thinman> i can not send mail at localhost, and i am using postfix...can someone tell me what i am doing wrong?
[11:33] <dseomn> hhurtta: ssh handles encoding differences correctly IIRC
[11:33] <dseomn> thinman: have you changed any of the configuration?
[11:33] <ompaul> Eddy_, did you define a different partition for /home, I did not understand if you said yes or no, get it wrong and loose anything you have on it
[11:34] <hhurtta> dseomn: so you see this correctly 
[11:34] <dseomn> hhurtta: yes
[11:34] <dseomn> nvm, one ? in there
[11:34] <ompaul> eagleye, no it means that you need grub to be installed at the start of the hard drive
[11:34] <Eddy_> ompaul no i didn't, and once again, please don't worry about my losing data =) i'm pretty sure i won't, and even if i do, it's nothing important. the problem here is GRUB =)
[11:34] <hhurtta> good for you, but I don't :)
[11:34] <atha> hhurtta: do you need UTF-8 for anything? change default locale to an ISO-8859-15 one ?
[11:34] <eagleye> ompaul, not sure how to do that. im patient
[11:34] <thinman> dsseom: i installed as MTA...
[11:35] <erUSUL> Eddy_: reinstall GRUB with the live cd
[11:35] <hhurtta> atha: not really. problem is, how to do that
[11:35] <dseomn> hhurtta: dpkg-reconfigure locales
[11:35] <ompaul> Eddy_, okay here is what I would do if you don't care about the data - you don't have liveCD you don't have anything that works other than hoary and we are not sure if that will not kill off the problem
[11:35] <Eddy_> erUSUL how is it different than with the regular Install CD ? because, once again, when i do that, it fails.
[11:35] <hhurtta> will give that a tr
[11:35] <hhurtta> y
[11:35] <RMeist> hi
[11:35] <dseomn> thinman: postfix is installed by default
[11:36] <RMeist> does anyone know how to sort on size when doing du -hs *|sort ?
[11:36] <Eddy_> ompaul i'm not sure i have still hoary, i don't know where in the install process GRUB is installed, but i think that Breezy was already being installed when it crashed
[11:36] <Eddy_> so i think i have a working fresh Breezy system
[11:36] <Eddy_> BUT GRUB doesn't work
[11:36] <erUSUL> Eddy_: i do not know if its different or not. i allways have reinstalled grub with the live cd
[11:36] <Eddy_> the only thing not working is GRUB here =/
[11:36] <dseomn> RMeist: don't use -h, use "sort -ms * | sort -n"
[11:37] <atha> hhurtta: generate needed locales with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales" and then select suitable using LANG variable in /etc/environment
[11:37] <RMeist> dseomn: hmm, ill try
[11:37] <vladuz976> how can i connect my digital camera to retrieve pictures?
[11:37] <ompaul> Eddy_, I would install hoary - if it works  md5sum the breezy CD and if it is okay I would do a distupgrade as told here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade if you want to spend the night at it, or I would get a live CD and fix it tomorrow - and just for kicks I would also get a second live cd
[11:37] <puff> Hm, CD Juicer doesn't seem to list mp3s as an output option;  guess I need to find the lame encoder.
[11:37] <erUSUL> Eddy_: you chroot to the hd install and isntall grub whith the configurastion of the hd install
[11:37] <dseomn> RMeist: btw, -m is megabytes you can also use -k
[11:37] <atha> if there is a more proper way, when please correct :)
[11:37] <loststryk> anyidea why the following is using high levels of the processor ? 5675 root      15   0  136m  47m 9048 S  2.3  5.3  49:17.44 Xorg
[11:37] <loststryk>  somestimes more then 15% think it's laging gnome :( any help would be appreciated
[11:37] <ompaul> Eddy_, your call :)
[11:37] <erUSUL> vladuz976: with USB ;)?
[11:38] <hhurtta> atha: yes. Its funny how you can use linux for years and still learn new stuff almost every day :)
[11:38] <vladuz976> erUSUL: yes usb
[11:38] <ompaul> Eddy_, and your call is?
[11:38] <thinman> dseomn: i'm configuring postfix through ISPConfig ?
[11:38] <ompaul> eagleye, my guess is you never had a working system?
[11:38] <ray> hi ppl, how can i access my pc with ubuntu on remotely and login as myself?
[11:38] <dseomn> thinman: what's ISPConfig?
[11:38] <jodua> k...i need major help...i dunno how long i have  When i turn  my laptop on and connect i only have a few minutes before it shuts off...then when i retry  ./network_up  then dhclient wlan0....it tries to connect...along the path says something about no dhcp offers....then give me the error " no working leases in persistant databse -sleeping"   Any ways of staying connected for a long time?
[11:38] <thinman> dseomn: i can send mail out-bounce
[11:39] <Eddy_> ompaul my call is that i'm 99% sure that the CD is correct, i don't have a hoary install left, and i'd rather install from a CD than do an upgrade =) so my call is: i'll try finding how to tweak GRUB
[11:39] <erUSUL> vladuz976: if the camera is conected it should have appeared as an usb disk if not try gthumb
[11:39] <thinman> dseomn: ispconfig.org
[11:39] <vladuz976> erUSUL: what if i am not using gnome?
[11:39] <Eddy_> oh god....
[11:39] <ompaul> Eddy_, to do that you need to get a live CD to get at the disk if your not getting a prompt
[11:39] <eagleye> yes, i have, but had some problems with hard drives. i put in a new one, 80gig last night and had everything working fine, restarted today and got that error
[11:40] <erUSUL> vladuz976: are you using kde
[11:40] <RMeist> dseomn: du -s *|sort -nr   workx fine, tnx:)
[11:40] <Eddy_> when i start the partitioner... i see a box with "[!!]  partition disks" as the title, and then "??? ???" and then "go back" and "continue".......
[11:40] <dseomn> thinman: what are you trying to configure? mail hub? outgoing only?
[11:40] <dseomn> RMeist: np, I use it somewhat regularly
[11:40] <puff> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-957.html
[11:40] <ompaul> eagleye, emm did the disk you replaced have data on it?
[11:40] <erUSUL> ?
[11:40] <vladuz976> erUSUL: no, enlightenment
[11:40] <puff> Does that set of instructions for getting juicer doing mp3s look up to date?
[11:40] <eagleye> ompaul had, xp on it..
[11:41] <hyperactivecrond> !tell puff about mp3
[11:41] <erUSUL> well then you have to mount the camera manualy ... try pmount /dev/sda1
[11:41] <ompaul> eagleye, yeap and it also had the information grub wants I imagine
[11:41] <RMeist> dseomn: too bad that the M notation can't be used easy, oh well.
[11:42] <ompaul> Eddy_, change to ctrl alt f2 and see if you have a shell
[11:42] <eagleye> huh, I had the install erase the entire disk..
[11:42] <loststryk> has anyone experianced system lagging on gnome ?
[11:42] <dseomn> thinman: fyi, there's a #ubuntu-de if german's your native language
[11:42] <erUSUL> Eddy_: boot with the live cd and then mount the root partition, then chroot to it and install grub worked for me
[11:42] <ompaul> eagleye, have a look at this
[11:42] <Eddy_> hmmm
[11:42] <kuRupT> ehm
[11:42] <kuRupT> halllo?
[11:42] <ompaul> !tell eagleye about grub
[11:42] <Eddy_> ok, i'll try to see how that goes
[11:43] <Eddy_> thanks for your help, it's really appreciated
[11:43] <ompaul> Eddy_, is it the system you are now on?
[11:43] <dseomn> kuRupT: hi, if you have a question, feel free to just ask
[11:43] <puff> hyperactivecrond: Thanks.
[11:43] <Eddy_> ompaul i'm sorry i didn't understand your last question
[11:43] <hyperactivecrond> np puff
[11:43] <thinman> after change main.cf of postfix... do i need to rerun anything to make it changed?
[11:43] <ompaul> Eddy_, the system you are now on, is that the one with this grub error?
[11:43] <dseomn> thinman: yes, "/etc/init.d/postfix force-reload"
[11:43] <loststryk> !tell loststryk  about lag
[11:44] <erUSUL> thinman: restart postfix /etc/init.d/postfix restart
[11:44] <Eddy_> ompaul no, i'm talking with you on my desktop comp and i'm working on my laptop
[11:44] <loststryk> this is getting annoying :( can somebody help me with a gnome lag / freeze problem ?
[11:44] <UbuntuOne> Hello people
[11:44] <hyperactivecrond> loststryk, file a bug report
[11:44] <ompaul> Eddy_, have a look for a thing called 'recovery is possible' its a distro if your machine can burn it might be worth a whirl
[11:44] <UbuntuOne> What is happenyng exacly loststryk??
[11:44] <Eddy_> ompaul ok, i'll google it
[11:45] <ompaul> Eddy_, good luck
[11:45] <Eddy_> cheers mate
[11:45] <loststryk> i have sevreral programs running; but loads are spiking to high levels every 20-30 seconds etc; gnome is really sluggish :(
[11:45] <jodua_> k so i did get d/c and hap to restart my laptop..did anyone have an answer to my prob?
[11:45] <loststryk> kinda stops and starts
[11:46] <UbuntuOne> :/ What programs are running and how much RAM do you have?
[11:46] <carrarro> Hello there. I have been trying to find out how to get a C/C++ Dvelopment Toolkit on Ubuntu 5.04, but I am stuck. Can anyone helo, please?
[11:46] <loststryk> pftpfxp-mew, xchat, evolution email, gftp, remote desktop and a terminal window and i have a gig of ram
[11:46] <dseomn> carrarro: any one in particular?
[11:46] <erUSUL> carrarro: install buil-essentials
[11:46] <jodua_> when i do get connected the 1st time it says " bound to <#>  -renewel in 38941 seconds"  so i dunno if that has anything to do with it
[11:47] <erUSUL> carrarro: install buil-essential
[11:47] <carrarro> dseomn: not one in particular,
[11:47] <dseomn> erUSUL: b-e != dev toolkit
[11:47] <UbuntuOne> Remote desktop is quite demanding :/ all other should work :/
[11:47] <dseomn> *d-e
[11:48] <loststryk> even with remote desktop not runnign still happens, in 'top' Xorg keeps flying high
[11:48] <carrarro> erUSUL: I did that, but I don't know where to find the application. I guess that I'm looking for an Icon in the application list, but I could be wrong.
[11:48] <thinman> i changed my mail-domain in main.cf of postfix and restart postfix, but it keep sending out email with old domain.   any idea ?
[11:49] <erUSUL> carrarro: you want a grafical ide for c and c++ right? installl anjuta or kdevelop
[11:49] <darkheart> thinman You probably need to change $myorigin
[11:49] <carrarro> erUSUl: Yes. Let me look that up.
[11:49] <jofa> anyone -  success installing gxiso-1.5? When running 'sudo python setup.py install' as suggested by the README, it stops on: ' error: can't copy 'po/tmp/fr/gxiso.mo': doesn't exist or not a regular file'. What does this mean?
[11:49] <eagleye> ompaul, can you please send me those links again, lost them by accident.. thanks
[11:50] <Eddy_> ompaul sorry i cannot answer your queries, i am unregistered =/
[11:50] <vertz> Hello, what do i need to do to get bluetooth working? got a bluetooth usb dongle from BCS
[11:51] <carrarro> erUSUl: Thank you. I found somthing on google. I'll come back if I get stuck again.
[11:51] <dseomn> vertz: you could upgrade to breezy preview, I don't think it's very easy with hoary
[11:51] <jodua_> does anyone else have the problem of staying connected
[11:51] <thinman> darkheart: thank you, it worked! :) but i still can not send mail at local
[11:51] <Eddy_> is it possible to burn a win98 boot diskette on a CD (and to boot on it obviously) ?
[11:51] <loststryk> no jodua_; quite the oppisite :)
[11:51] <vertz> dseomn: and in breezy it should just work?
[11:51] <jodua_> -*(
[11:51] <leagris> hello
[11:52] <darkheart> thinman Np, what do you mean 'local'? Join #postfix and explain your problem a little more.
[11:52] <dseomn> vertz: it should, but I haven't used it, so YMMV
[11:52] <loststryk> i'm hetting 300-400KB/s downlosd on a 1mbit line =oD
[11:52] <jodua_> loststryk  do you know much about my problem though?
[11:52] <vertz> dseomn: alright thanks
[11:52] <carlos_> hola a todos
[11:52] <leagris> is the a way in ubuntu to setup which cups server tu use system wide and not as per user only ?
[11:52] <loststryk> jodua_, i'm just a n00b; so probably not :)
[11:52] <carlos_> habla alguien espaol
[11:52] <thinman> darkheart: ok thanks
[11:52] <dseomn> carlos_: #ubuntu-es
[11:53] <darkheart> !es
[11:53] <leagris> I use a dedicated cups server on the lan
[11:53] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:53] <jodua_> loststryk  same here...thats my problem...but im not going to windows so i need help lol
[11:53] <leagris> every computer on the network don't have a local printer
[11:53] <carlos_> aah vale gracias
[11:53] <leagris> I don't wnant to setup the cups server for each box for each users
[11:53] <loststryk> me either; got everything i need running now :) not going back to m$
[11:54] <leagris> I think it is enough to set it up on each box for all users at once
[11:54] <ZBlach> hi
[11:54] <shagg> has anybody else run into problems with upgrading Firefox to 1.0.7?
[11:54] <_willcooke_> shagg, Yes indeed!
[11:54] <ZBlach> shagg, i did, and then i had to replatform
[11:54] <jodua_> so when i connect it will stay on for a 1-3 minutes, then i get lucky once in a while and stay on for a while...which i seem to be doing now....but whenever it d/c me i tried to reconnect in console and it tells me there are " no working leases in persistant database -sleeping" anyone have any clue on how i can fix this?
[11:54] <_willcooke_> shagg, I fixed mine!
[11:55] <shagg> giddy up.  what's the FF workaround then?
[11:55] <shagg> (I had to go and install Epiphany so I could get on the web)
[11:55] <ZBlach> I've moved to breezy, and I can't get connected to my wireless network. How can I fix this?
[11:55] <_willcooke_> :) Assuming you have the same problem as I had.....
[11:55] <dseomn> ZBlach: what card are you using?
[11:56] <_willcooke_> try doing an apt-get upgrade from the command line, what does it tell you
[11:56] <ZBlach> dseomn, Linksys WMP11V27
[11:56] <jodua_> _willcooke_ will that work for me too? i read somewhere to get upgrades?
[11:56] <ZBlach> got the drivers installed, ndiswrappered and everything
[11:56] <shagg> wait one...
[11:57] <dseomn> ZBlach: sorry, I'm not familiar with ndiswrapper
[11:57] <_willcooke_> jodua_, That will tell you (& me) the error.  If it's the same error I had (one package would overwrite another) then I know the fix.  Otherwise, dunno.
[11:57] <northern_monk> how do I lauch skippy from boot up?
[11:57] <ZBlach> dseomn, maybe you can help me configure the Network Settings?
[11:57] <shagg> I'm getting a dpkg error processing the FF .deb file.  Broken pipe.
[11:57] <jodua_> k i will try
[11:58] <dseomn> ZBlach: I doubt it, I've never done it the easy way (I use guessnet, wpasupplicant, and ifplugd)
[11:58] <ZBlach> kk
[11:58] <Pere> hello, how to install gnome 2.12 on ubuntu 5.04 horay?
[11:58] <_willcooke_> shagg, Hmm, different problem to me.  try sudo apt-get update again and then sudo apt-get upgrade -f
[11:58] <arkainium> How can I get gnome to stop complaining that hal is not initialized?  I'm disabling hal intentionally.
[11:59] <jodua_> _willcooke_  i did it and final line says "you may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems"  ??
[11:59] <feralgirl> does anybody know where to get and how to install a driver for a D-Link G630 wireless card
[11:59] <dseomn> feralgirl: I'm using a G650, it worked w/ no configuration
[11:59] <ZBlach> anyone here experienced with wireless networking?
[11:59] <leagris> Anyone know how to setup system wide settings with ubuntu ?
[11:59] <leagris> settings for cups ?