[12:00] i need to install the correct drivers for my nvidia GeFource FX 5200 video card can someone help me one this pleas [12:00] please help me [12:00] d2dchat: sorry I scared you [12:00] someone [12:00] ccooke, haha its ok [12:00] esoty haciendo un script en bash shell i tengo ya esto [12:00] for i in $(cat /home/meri/Desktop/ASO/passwd | tr -s ' ' '+' | tr -s ',' '+'); do [12:00] [12:00] directori=$(echo $i | cut -d ':' -f 6) [12:00] echo "directori:$directori" [12:00] done [12:00] !tell uojo about es === yMWiuAajjn [n=ooeqvm@d213-103-16-141.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #ubuntu === Wipe-Out [n=rickblee@f112045.upc-f.chello.nl] has joined #ubuntu [12:01] hey [12:01] what happened to my terminal??? [12:01] :( [12:01] sorry [12:01] uojo: no more pasting in here, please [12:01] np [12:01] haha an other one === yMWiuAajjn [n=ooeqvm@d213-103-16-141.cust.tele2.fr] has left #ubuntu [] [12:02] uojo: what language does your computer speak? [12:02] binary [12:02] guys i need help installing gcc or at least a way to tell make where it's installed [12:02] Wipe-Out: "sudo apt-get install gcc" [12:02] i installed it but it can;t be found :s [12:02] Wipe-Out: install "build-essential" [12:02] Wipe-Out: it's in /usr/bin/gcc [12:02] Wipe-Out Try 'which gcc' === grndslm [n=grndslm@198-103.69-92-cpe.cableone.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:02] i know but when i do sudo make it can't find it [12:02] dooglus: advise "build-essential" there are more things required than gcc === Tartaros [i=icechat5@r4s251.chello.upc.cz] has joined #ubuntu [12:03] nalioth: required for what? [12:03] installed the essentials [12:03] Wipe-Out: install "build-essential" [12:03] dooglus: he's missing his automake stuff === ompaul [n=ompaul@213-202-151-245.bas503.dsl.esat.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:03] dooglus, installed Hoary 5.04 last eve, takes only 100Mb for the Debian base, then, I added 'File server' and 'Desktop' that took it up to 1.9Gb used... including some Perl programming modules, and full KDE, and some other stuff, added in Synaptic... === knutsi [n=knutsi@cm-84.210.15.233.chello.no] has joined #ubuntu [12:03] nalioth: build-essential doesn't include automake anyway? [12:04] does the breezy live CD do installs? === fox974 [n=fox974@fny94-5-82-232-234-164.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:04] automake? === iaiouiiiLo [n=uouoaiz@200.243.11.132] has joined #ubuntu [12:04] ompaul: no === iaiouiiiLo [n=uouoaiz@200.243.11.132] has left #ubuntu [] === RiyBi [n=itoyioi@81.213.191.119] has joined #ubuntu [12:04] pity :) [12:04] dooglus: i'm not a dev, but -essentials installes most everything one needs for compiling programs [12:04] d2dchat: I recommend you back up /home before doing an install, no matter what. === RiyBi [n=itoyioi@81.213.191.119] has left #ubuntu [] [12:05] dooglus: that's why it's called "build-essentials" and not "gcc" [12:05] does anyone know how to instal nvidia drivers? === davro [n=davro@cpc4-ches2-3-0-cust110.lutn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:05] Wipe-Out: automake makes configure files, which make Makefiles. but most ubuntu packages come with configure scripts anyway [12:05] !tell moparfan90 about nvidia [12:05] okay guys i know that the essentials need to be installed and i did gcc is installed but it can't be found what am i doing wrong? [12:05] moparfan90, look at the message from the bot - ubotu [12:05] nalioth: he was trying to find gcc I think though... === Hikaru79 [n=hikaru79@d57-4-59.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:05] i'd like to do as much as possible in the terminal [12:05] ok [12:05] thanks [12:06] want to get rid of my n00b state [12:06] Wipe-Out: "which gcc" returns nothing? [12:06] nixiac: thanks for that [12:06] it tells me it wants gcc-3.4 [12:06] anybody wanna help me? I've got this Vaio TR1A that I'm trying to install Ubuntu on...everything goes fine until it asks for user name and password, I enter them, then it loops back to asking for user & pass again....over and over again [12:06] Wipe-Out: if you need gcc-3.4, you should install gcc-3.4 - it's a different package. [12:06] Wipe-Out: so use synaptic to install gcc-3.4 [12:07] thought it was included in the breezy badger release [12:07] Wipe-Out: the default gcc in breezy is 4 [12:07] Wipe-Out: no, only gcc-4.0 === terje [n=joem@vampira.scare.org] has joined #ubuntu [12:07] what!? so i need to downgrade? [12:07] Wipe-Out: you can have both installed. they don't conflict [12:07] Wipe-Out: it wont downgrade [12:07] hi, I'm having trouble getting PHP4 going on hoary. It keeps wanting to download the index.php file, rather than render it. [12:07] Wipe-Out: although /usr/bin/gcc will still be a symlink to 4.0 [12:08] a okay so where can i find gcc-3.4 [12:08] anyone have trouble printing in the new Breezy evince package? I get junk text for output [12:08] wipe-out: synaptic [12:08] Wipe-Out: same place as everything else. apt-get it [12:08] Wipe-Out: use synaptic [12:08] anyone else lost their synaptic touchpad after upgrading to breezy? [12:08] have got no i-net connection yet with lin ux :s [12:08] Wipe-Out: Been 'doin' Nix and BSD, since 1997, and am STILL a noob, cuz, I have to run them ALL! have about 40 mochines here, I love junkers, curbside 'donations'!~ So been 'doin' Ubuntu about 24 hours. [12:08] thread, no [12:08] grndslm, are you sure that you are entering them correctly? [12:08] Wipe-Out: just search for 'gcc-3.4' === freebase` [n=freebase@81-233-253-93-no13.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:08] khermans: maybe not you, but I see others on the forum in the same boat [12:08] thread: lost how? [12:09] unfortuantely, nobody has a good answer for me [12:09] it's just a regular touchpad [12:09] henke: don't think i could enter them any other way...done it many times on other computers, same distro....Vaio just loops [12:09] no synaptic features === rob_p [n=rob@cust-ipadvanced-dynnat-232130.d-star-eutelsat.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:09] x log says (EE) Synaptics Touchpad no synaptics touchpad detected and no repeater device [12:09] thread: but it still works as a trackpad? === war-totem [n=lightbri@CPE0040052e5c4c-CM0f1029953548.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:09] grndslm, have you tried changing the password? [12:09] I have EVDEV built into my kernel... synaptics worked before I upgraded [12:09] nixiac: this compiling and installing of my Wlan stuff is realy giving me a mayor crash corse :P been at it for about 3 days [12:09] ccooke: yeah.. it works... [12:10] henke: many times, short characters, no characters (not possible), long characters, etc....do the same for user name too === [orp [n=pejhdsj@bl5-11-72.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #ubuntu [12:10] <[orp> i people [12:10] thread: tried installing tpconfig? [12:10] thread: it may give you some help [12:10] nixiac: i've only worked with nux for about 3 days as a matter O' fact [12:10] <[orp> some one help me? [12:11] grndslm, is this when it asks you to create a user? [12:11] yup [12:11] Wipe-Out: Man,LAN jsut does it automatically, it appeaars, to me! You got on-board sis-900 chip or sumpfing? [12:11] <[orp> i need some sevices like postfix start on boot === veronica [n=bay-pipo@HSE-Montreal-ppp341233.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu [12:11] ccooke: it says it can't open my ps2 port (/dev/psaux) ... what does that mean? [12:11] ccooke: the file exists... [12:11] thread: run it under sudo [12:11] grndslm, there might be some more knowledgeable people in #debian-boot. The installer people hide there. [12:11] nixiac: nah got a PCMCIA belkin Wlan card [12:11] henke: thanks, i'll check it out [12:11] grndslm, I hope they don't mind even though it is ubuntu related [12:11] ccooke: ah... it says Found Synaptics Touchpad\nFirmware: 8.96 (multiple-byte mode). [12:12] [orp: if you ask a question to the channel [12:12] [orp: if you install postfix, it should start at boot by default [12:12] nixiac: been fighting with installing ndiswtrapper it tought me a lot [12:12] grndslm, they might have heard about it before. [12:12] henke: i doubt they'll mind...thanks again for the tip [12:12] <[orp> i need some sevices like postfix start on boot ? [12:12] <[orp> can you help me^? === DAC1138 [n=dave@24-56-174-97.co.warpdriveonline.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:13] ccooke: tpconfig -i tells me all the good stuff... looks perfect. why isn't x failing to recognize my synaptics touchpad? [12:13] thread: hmm [12:13] <[orp> i start it and wen boot it dont start [12:13] thread: I'm not sure. [12:13] Wipe-Out: OOPS, you gotta make sure you got the pcmcia loaded in the build of lyour system, when you install! Mine asks (through over a hundred installs! on several dozens of machines), but, I have NO pcmcia cards... [12:13] [orp: get sysv-rc-conf - that's good for editing what starts at boot [12:13] <[orp> ok === senaque [n=friendly@ppp121-3.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:14] thread: I have a similar touchpad, also not working - although I didn't configure it in hoary. [12:14] Why does when i do 'import' in the firefox manage folder... it just closes firefox :| [12:14] grndslm, oh, and when I think about it. Have you looked for any suspicious output in the other consoles? [12:14] thread: I'll see if I can get it working, and let you know [12:14] Manage bookmarks that is === sunshine [n=sunshine@dsl-80-43-35-108.access.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:14] ccooke: cool... I'm just out of ideas here... seems like it should be working at this point [12:14] thread: oh, one thing - try 'grep -i synapt /var/log/Xorg.0.log' [12:15] nixiac: well the PCMCIA slot is installed it even sees the card but this ndiswrapper is doing my head in === dNiybe [n=uouoaiz@200.243.11.132] has joined #ubuntu === dNiybe [n=uouoaiz@200.243.11.132] has left #ubuntu [] [12:15] http://quicken.ath.cx/syn.txt [12:15] hi cc cooke do you know anytthing about sownload [12:15] henke: nope, didn't do that...tried getting into a terminal from the boot loader, but was limited to ash and basic commands [12:15] nixiac: also tried to install USB Wlan but thought that would be an easy way out :P [12:15] sunshine: sownload? [12:15] sunshine: no... [12:15] i am tryin to download java but every [12:16] ah, you need java? [12:16] time the file is unknown [12:16] sunshine: hoary or breezy? [12:16] yes [12:16] i'm back... all xlibs are instaled but during the configuration: checking for X... no [12:16] /checking if you want to ignore X at all... no [12:16] Can not find the X libraries. [12:16] ### Make sure that X is installed on your system and try to run configure again, [12:16] ### this time passing the --x-includes and --x-libraries options. [12:16] Why does when i do 'import' in the firefox manage bookmarks folder... it just closes firefox :| [12:16] breezy === uJiaie [n=uouoaiz@200.243.11.132] has joined #ubuntu [12:16] sunshine: apt-get install java-package [12:16] JustinHH: do not paste in here [12:16] JustinHH: read the /topic === uJiaie [n=uouoaiz@200.243.11.132] has left #ubuntu [] [12:16] soory [12:16] sunshine: then download the file from sun [12:16] sec [12:16] sorry [12:16] i got java package [12:16] ccooke: no [12:16] sunshine: hoary or breezy === Wipe-Out slaps JustinHH [12:16] bad boy :P [12:17] sunshine: are you using hoary or breezy? [12:17] How do I tell what version of Ubuntu I'm running? [12:17] nalioth: no what? [12:17] next time [12:17] joetheodd: open a terminal and type lsb_release -a [12:17] grndslm, I meant the other virtual consoles while you are in the installer. There are a few debug consoles. === Raunok [n=dood@66-191-203-202.dhcp.spbg.sc.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:17] ccooke: i have ubuntu java debs, if sunshine will tell me which one (s)he is using [12:18] nalioth: sun java? === hyperactivecrond [n=chris@ppp-69-215-235-154.dsl.bcvloh.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:18] what's the advantage of them over the ones built by java_package? [12:18] ccooke: yes sun [12:18] henke, i know what you're referring to...I just never thought about that....I'll have to fire up the laptop one more time. [12:18] breezy [12:18] ccooke: they were made for breezy or hoary [12:18] When I run apt-get dist-upgrade it doesn't download any packages, but lsb_release -a says I'm running warty. [12:19] sunshine: http://giannaros.org/tor/bt/ [12:19] nalioth: I'm using the java_package ones now - they seem to integrate fine. What's the difference? [12:19] anyone know of any good news readers that work with ubuntu? [12:19] joetheodd: does it have "warty" or "hoary" in your /etc/apt/sources.list ? [12:19] just one more question does gcc-3.4.4-20050522-1-src.diff.gz work in ubuntu? [12:19] Raunok: most of them. I use slrn, which is a text-mode one... [12:19] ccooke: the debs install more easily for unfamiliar users [12:20] nalioth: but they'r just the ones java_package would make? [12:20] nalioth: warty === kyncani [n=kyncani@82.250.5.123] has joined #ubuntu [12:20] anyone know how to have urlview open with epiphany? [12:20] i would prefer a gui based, just because im new at it, and i tried pan but i couldn't figure out how in the world to compile/configure/install it [12:20] thread: I have a synaptics touchpad and I've not had to do anything at all to get it working in breezy. === adrianoc [n=adrianoc@c91187fe.bhz.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu [12:20] i dont know how do i check [12:20] ccooke: i'm not sure how seveas made them, but they're sun java [12:20] sunshine: check what? === NHRQOoieo [n=ooeqvm@d213-103-16-141.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #ubuntu [12:21] how do I install .deb files? [12:21] thread: I've put some information here: http://s89213869.onlinehome.us/synaptics.txt - maybe it'll help you [12:21] nalioth: hmm. so we have potentially two *different* version of the sun java packages? === bottox` [n=supybot@ppp-69-215-235-154.dsl.bcvloh.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:21] BooZee: "sudo dpkg -i file.deb" [12:21] Why does when i do 'import' in the firefox manage bookmarks folder... it just closes firefox :| [12:21] ccooke: there are no more Sun java in the repos === NHRQOoieo [n=ooeqvm@d213-103-16-141.cust.tele2.fr] has left #ubuntu [] [12:21] where i find a good source.list from ubuntu ? [12:21] ccooke: there is gnu java (which sucks) and Sun java [12:22] nalioth: apt-get install java_package is Sun Java? [12:22] ccooke: you can jump through hoops (some insurmountable for new to *nix users) and get the bin from sun, or you can use the debs === obontu [n=obontu@80.179.185.46.static.012.net.il] has joined #ubuntu [12:22] nalioth: okay. are your packages going to get into main, restricted, universe or multiverse? [12:22] !tell adrianoc about sources [12:22] joetheodd: there is no sun in the repos [12:22] Hello, Seveas? May I PM you? (again? *blush*) [12:22] ccooke: the pkgs i have links to are illegal [12:22] ccooke: but they are easy to install [12:23] nalioth: Right. Then that's not a good thing to do. [12:23] nalioth: How can I install Sun Java? [12:23] yes? my source.list is empty === HWolf [n=HiddenWo@136.34.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:23] Hikaru79, no, I'm in a meeting now [12:23] never mind [12:23] hello, i'm looking for p2p apps for linux, non emule or bt [12:23] obontu: nicotine? [12:23] gnutella and such [12:23] joetheodd: hoary or breezy? [12:23] nicotine? === ieieF [n=ooeqvm@d213-103-16-141.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #ubuntu [12:23] what's that? === ieieF is now known as iauooaaoo [12:23] obontu: it's a soulseek clone [12:23] obontu: limewire [12:23] Ah, sorry! :( [12:23] i installed limewire [12:23] but it won't work [12:23] i tried to install java [12:23] nalioth: warty, but hoary, because I'm upgrading [12:24] nalioth: Illegal in that you're breaking the license redistributing, right? [12:24] everything went well [12:24] but, it won't load === iauooaaoo is now known as dHeahW [12:24] obontu: try gtk-gnutella [12:24] i think something got scrued up in my transfer to KDE. [12:24] ok === bottox` [n=supybot@ppp-69-215-235-154.dsl.bcvloh.ameritech.net] has left #ubuntu ["hyperactivecrond"] [12:24] ccooke: yes. illegal in licensing === dHeahW [n=ooeqvm@d213-103-16-141.cust.tele2.fr] has left #ubuntu [] [12:24] i can't log in as adminisitrator, when using the control === cytroon [i=atk10702@irc-out.antik.sk] has joined #ubuntu [12:24] nalioth: right. If you're breaking the license for nonstandard packages, might as well do it for standard ones. [12:24] Why does when i do 'import' in the firefox manage bookmarks folder... it just closes firefox :|, or else if somebody can point me where i could find any help on this ?? [12:24] joetheodd: when you are done upgrading to hoary, get your java here http://www.giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/ [12:24] where can i find gtk-gnutella [12:24] ? [12:24] BooZe: you mean root? [12:25] obontu, limewire ;) [12:25] nalioth: java_package *builds* debs from the Sun java installer. [12:25] ah found it [12:25] nope, administrator [12:25] i tried limeware === XehieQzFo [n=ooeqvm@d213-103-16-141.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #ubuntu [12:25] wire [12:25] So, use that to build the debs (I can provide my copies) [12:25] couldn't can it to work === jsubl2 [n=jsubl2@72.48.95.220] has joined #ubuntu [12:25] and distribute those [12:25] ah. === XehieQzFo is now known as eiiFeuiiTB [12:25] !tell obontu about synaptic [12:25] that way, there is only *one* source of debs. === drbombay43 [n=drbombay@ppp-69-239-114-144.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:25] it's ok [12:25] found them thanx [12:25] nalioth: When I've finished apt-get dist-upgrade for hoary, do I need to restart? [12:25] which will make support *vastly* easier. [12:25] first, it asked for my password, and after thinking a bit, jumped me to another page. === eiiFeuiiTB [n=ooeqvm@d213-103-16-141.cust.tele2.fr] has left #ubuntu [] [12:26] ccooke: ok. it does. i agree. but for new users who dont have a clue about building anything, the seveas-made one is easier [12:26] joetheodd: yes, b/c you'll have installed a new kernel === evian [n=dude@d149-67-55-168.col.wideopenwest.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:26] nalioth: no, it isn't. [12:26] ccooke that a god thing this is why my friend put ubuntu on my computer [12:26] it harder to break [12:26] sunshine: *grin* === KuagRazo [n=ooeqvm@d213-103-16-141.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #ubuntu [12:27] how do I edit my "Places" menu at the top of the screen? I want to add a folder. [12:27] I broke window xp three times [12:27] where do I choose what X will be the default session? [12:27] B_166-ER-X: you could try looking in the mozilla bugzilla [12:27] nalioth: java_package builds *one* deb file. [12:27] nalioth: distribute that. [12:27] nalioth: and how do you install a .deb? [12:27] ccooke: ask seveas when he returns why he made them if using the bin is easier [12:27] *makes sure he writes this down* [12:27] dooglus ,i've been browsing all over...i dont see anything about this bug :| === KuagRazo [n=ooeqvm@d213-103-16-141.cust.tele2.fr] has left #ubuntu [] [12:27] B_166-ER-X: what version? and exactly how can I reproduce it? === typo [n=typo@c213-100-41-59.swipnet.se] has joined #ubuntu [12:28] joetheodd: open a terminal where the deb is, and type "sudo dpkg -i file.deb" === BuuKeeZoo [n=ooeqvm@d213-103-16-141.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #ubuntu [12:28] nalioth: where's your download again, anyway? [12:28] nalioth: it may be he made them using the package *anyway* [12:28] ccooke: for which? hoary or breezy? [12:28] nalioth: and I'm just getting the wrong idea [12:28] dooglus: no... that doesn't appear to help at all.. that's what I've got in xorg.conf, and it still insists that I don't have a synaptics mouse [12:28] nalioth: try breezy. === BuuKeeZoo [n=ooeqvm@d213-103-16-141.cust.tele2.fr] has left #ubuntu [] [12:29] Thanks nalioth, you're a great help. =) [12:29] thread: hmmm. sorry then. === soundray [n=soundray@dsl-217-155-44-246.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [12:29] ccooke: http://giannaros.org/tor/bt/ [12:29] joetheodd: np ;) [12:29] thread: because I've never had a problem with, I've not learnt anything about it... [12:29] dooglus: thanks for tryin, tho :) === bhuaHuoLed [n=ooeqvm@d213-103-16-141.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #ubuntu [12:29] dooglus: yea it has worked fine for me in the past, too [12:29] dooglus , Hoary , firefox 1.0.7 ; i just go to manage folders, and click on 'Import' then Fx close [12:29] B_166-ER-X: I'll try. [12:29] nalioth: yep, those look like the ones I have. Do forgive me :-) [12:29] dooglus: what version of xorg-driver-synaptics? [12:30] nalioth: I got completely the wrong impression [12:30] dooglus: dpkg-query -l |grep synaptics [12:30] is it a known bug that nautilus can't open volumes because it tries to mount them when they're already mounted? All my external usb disks do this as well as CD's === bhuaHuoLed [n=ooeqvm@d213-103-16-141.cust.tele2.fr] has left #ubuntu [] === bushk [n=bushk@horatio-191.cs.utexas.edu] has joined #ubuntu === tuskernini [n=chris@80-219-155-125.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu [12:30] xorg-driver-synaptics: Installed: 0.14.3+revertedto+0.13.6-0ubuntu3 [12:30] same version I got === thread scratches head [12:30] why is bit torrent so slow === Jettis [n=h0h0@a80-186-63-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu [12:30] it suppose to be fast [12:31] I am having a problem adding the cd as a repositorie, can some one please help, or tell me the best way to upgrade to breezy? [12:31] sunshine: not enough people to download from. Or you're behind a firewall and not uploading much. [12:31] sunshine: usually it's because your incoming ports are blocked [12:31] how do I remove kubuntu? [12:31] drbombay43: read the /topic [12:31] !st [12:31] RMeist: Did you get hit by a windmill? [12:31] :) [12:31] sunshine: if people can't connect to you, and you can't connect to them, it limits transfer speed. [12:31] peace in the middle east [12:31] Seveas: are u dutch? [12:31] !remove kubuntu [12:31] hyperactivecrond: Are you smoking crack? === herfo [n=friendly@ppp121-3.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:31] !remove kubuntu [12:31] sunshine: you end up relying on people who have their ports opened, which isn't all of them [12:32] !remove kubuntu-desktop [12:32] parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, jsubl2 [12:32] ii xorg-driver-synaptics 0.14.3+revertedto+0.13.6-0ubuntu3 Synaptics TouchPad driver for X.Org server [12:32] please, i do make run synaptic, he talk, "password root incorret", but not possible this. [12:32] !remove kubuntu [12:32] BooZee: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! [12:32] how do i let everyone in, is it safe to let everyone in [12:32] I did, edit repos, but when I chose add I do not get the cd as a choice [12:32] theres a lot of bug related to my problem listed o n bugzilla, but since i dont have any more details on it..its hard to point out [12:32] Hi, need help with an OpenSSH problem please... [12:32] or more people lin [12:32] how do I remove kubuntu? [12:32] soundray: tell. [12:33] BooZee 'sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop' [12:33] hey.... maybe it's this new kernel that got installed [12:33] !tell adrianoc about root [12:33] BooZee, use aptitude to remove kubuntu-desktop [12:33] Keys get swallowed when I type remotely === funkyHat [n=matt@cpc3-nthc3-3-1-cust65.nrth.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:33] BooZee, turn your computer upside down and shake it real hard. [12:33] crimsun: that only removes the metapackage [12:33] BooZee: remove kdebase [12:33] soundray: can you elaborate? [12:33] just kubuntu-desktop? it will remove all the kubuntu? [12:33] B_166-ER-X: I can't get firefox 1.0.7 to work at all now. I've been using 1.50 for a week or so. maybe my profile won't work with 1.0.7 any more. looks like the bug is fixed in 1.50 anyway, so you could try that. [12:33] BooZee: if you use synaptic you can check the boxes of the kde stuff you dont want === spermite [n=spermie_@69-172-40-18.frdrmd.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:33] nalioth, aptitude isn't smart enough to pull down the depends? [12:34] RMeist: As I type, the NumLock LED comes on shortly [12:34] BooZee: be careful you dont break your box [12:34] i want to completly remove KDE from my comp [12:34] crimsun: not with metapkg removal [12:34] While it's on, it seems to turn keys into control sequences [12:34] nalioth, k [12:34] dooglus, ok... but i reinstalled it like today, is 1.50 in the universe sources ?? === linner [n=linner@71.243.221.228] has joined #ubuntu [12:34] soundray: connected to a 'fresh' shell or to a screen perhaps? [12:35] thread: Okay. I've verified that the synaptics driver is *loaded* on mine. [12:35] B_166-ER-X: 1.50 isn't, no. it's only a beta, available from mozilla.org [12:35] hm [12:35] RMeist: Tried all of these, same effect. [12:35] ok [12:35] B_166-ER-X: I made a new profile for 1.0.7 and can't reproduce your bug. try a new profile yourself - firefox -p - does that fix it? [12:35] according to synaptic, 1.0.7 is the last version [12:35] dooog how do I fix this so it can go faster, i m gettin tired i need to go to bed [12:35] B_166-ER-X, it is [12:35] i do: cd /usr/src/linux then make menuconfig? then get: make: *** no rule to make taget 'menuconfig'. Stop === thoreauputic [n=prospero@wolax8-217.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [12:36] B_166-ER-X, 1.50 is a beta [12:36] soundray: stand by [12:36] sunshine: you have a router? [12:36] RMeist: Thx [12:36] it told me that it's unable to lock the administration dir, and that maybe another process is using it [12:36] yes [12:36] BooZee: close all apt instances. there can be only one [12:36] sunshine: you need to tell the router to forward connections on tcp/6881 to your PC's ip address [12:37] (and tcp/6882, 6883, 6884, and so on for each torrent you have running) [12:37] how do I do that [12:37] damn. I created a new profile, and it crashed again on import (manage bookmarks) [12:37] if you only use one torrwnt at a time, 6881 is enough. [12:37] dooglus. [12:37] what kind of router? [12:37] B_166-ER-X: odd. [12:37] B_166-ER-X: are you actually importing anything? Or does it crash before the "file / opera" screen? [12:37] B_166-ER-X: you using backports? [12:38] dooglus i just click import and it crashes.. [12:38] dsl 500 [12:38] and altough i've heard of backports, i dont know nohing about it [12:38] soundray: what version openssh and os [12:38] RMeist: Breezy, 4.1 [12:39] RMeist: Tried downgrading to 3.9, no success. [12:39] soundray: 4.1 or 4.1p1 [12:39] B_166-ER-X: from the 'file' menu, right? === Rotund [n=joe@207-118-215-194.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu === HiddenWolf [n=HiddenWo@136.130.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:40] RMeist: 4.1p1 [12:40] dooglus, nope, from 'bookmarks' --Manage bookmarks [12:40] B_166-ER-X: what does this show? dpkg-query -l firefox | grep firefox === vader1102 [n=kevin@dsl-72-1-219.170.tel-ott.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:41] soundray: strange, assuming that it's all default config. suspecting a UTF-8 line character bug or something [12:41] sunshine: try this: http://www.portforward.com/dlink/dsl-500.htm === bpuccio [n=brian@ool-457a9d77.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:41] RMeist: Oops, been playing with locales... [12:41] dooglus, no packets corresponding to firefox [12:41] soundray: ah [12:41] soundray: there you go [12:41] soundray: we hope:) [12:42] B_166-ER-X: ooh - mozilla-firefox then? [12:42] RMeist: Thanks, I'll revert whatever Ive done and see if it helps. [12:42] Weird... [12:42] soundray: gluck. [12:42] Okay, fixed that rhythmbox problem that was crashing my laptop. === matiu [n=matthew@w.hol.cfdl.auckland.ac.nz] has joined #ubuntu [12:42] dooglus, well, it opens a browser [12:42] How do I downgrade mozilla-firefox please? === rukuartic [n=Administ@dialup-4.249.66.121.Dial1.Washington2.Level3.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:43] B_166-ER-X: I'm using "firefox" not "mozilla-firefox" - I don't know why they're both in breezy. [12:43] arr [12:43] I think mozilla-firefox depends on firefox! [12:43] how is networking supposed to work now that I'm in breezy? is it supposed to come up from the 'networking' init script still? How do I configure it with my wireless encryption key etc? does it integrate with Network-Manager or -- how does it work? [12:43] dooglus, 'firefox' is from backports [12:43] i believe === zone17 [n=zone17@82.143.205.138] has joined #ubuntu [12:43] funkyHat: no, I've never used backports [12:43] I want to go back to mozilla-firefox 1.0.2 [12:43] oh right [12:43] Quick question... looking into buying a router. Anyone using a wireless router who can reccomend one? === bimberi [n=bimberi@DC-244-40.bpb.bigpond.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:43] !repositorys [12:43] fredforfaen: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? [12:44] rukuartic: I really like my ZyXel router [12:44] looks like mozilla-firefox just contains 2 files: /usr/share/doc/mozilla-firefox/copyright and /usr/share/doc/mozilla-firefox/changelog.Debian.gz [12:44] !repos [12:44] rumour has it, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 [12:44] rukuartic: WRT54G, best in class [12:44] dooglus, altough synaptic only list mozilla firefox, and mozilla-firefox gnome support installed [12:44] i've download w32codec from bittorrent but the debian binary is unknown what does that mean [12:44] Hi, would someone please check if firefox 1.0.7 doesn't crash at this site This site crashes firefox http://www.rapidhost.net/ [12:44] looking to do wireless... does ubuntu support a wireless PCI card? === Sonny_Wertzik [n=Sonny_We@ip24-250-11-28.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:45] How can I tel apt to install a specific version? [12:45] If anybody's curious, for some reason there was a "music player" entry in my gnome applications menu, and it would freeeze up everything when I got as far as importing the mp3s in the initial set up. [12:45] eg. apt-get install mozilla-firefox-1.0.2-0ubuntu5 [12:45] zone17: works fine on 1.0.5 [12:45] Had to go trough a lot of sites at work today and about every 20 times I see a new site firefox crashes [12:45] what i dont understand, its my second hoary install...and the 1st time it was working right.. [12:45] Thanks, rukuartic [12:45] http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted is funky ..... [12:45] rukuartic: it does, check here though - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards [12:45] B_166-ER-X: are you sure you don't have the 'firefox' package installed? that's the only package which provides /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox according to apt-file search [12:45] is there other repos that would do? [12:45] no idea why it was there on a fresh install, but when I followed the "Restricted Formats" wiki page advice, and installed all the drivers and codecs, it doesn't freeze the system any more. === lucky [n=joel@CPE000625f49f20-CM0014045d1130.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:45] Seems that its only firefox 1.0.7 from ubuntu distro which is having this problem [12:45] hi, xchat, firefox and gaim all segmentation fault on startup [12:46] bimberi: Wow... didn't occur to me to check there :: bows:: thank you [12:46] i just installed 5.4 yesterday [12:46] rukuartic: yw :) [12:46] dooglus, a Search for firefox only list 'mozilla-firefox' and files starting with mozilla-firefox [12:46] anyone? === mvo [n=egon@ip181.135.1511I-CUD12K-01.ish.de] has left #ubuntu ["Client] [12:47] i have got my xlibraries instaled but the configure program can not find them! where are they on my ubuntu system [12:47] ? [12:47] mozilla-firefox - lightweight web browser based on Mozilla , thats what i have === darko__ [i=kfs1@ti211310a081-2324.bb.online.no] has joined #ubuntu [12:47] plus the gnome-support [12:47] people with 1.0.7 firefox, please check the site, there seems to be a serious problem with ubuntu firefox 1.0.7 === Kensey [n=kensey@065.100-113-64.ftth.swbr.surewest.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:47] mozilla-firefox has version 1.0.2 and 1.0.7 available but firefox only has 1.0.7 [12:47] zone17: it didn't crash 1.0.7 for me. although it does have a java applet on it - could that be the problem? [12:47] where are all the source packages for Ubuntu? === gmjonker [n=toffegas@dsl-213-233-249-032.solcon.nl] has joined #ubuntu [12:48] Kensey: packages.ubuntu.org [12:48] anyone? [12:48] B_166-ER-X: how about uninstalling mozilla-firefox and installing firefox. see what happens then... [12:48] Kensey, in the source repositories (enable them in /etc/apt/sources.list === BooZee [n=buzi@bzq-82-81-111-28.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:48] never crashed before ; just when tryingto import bookmarks [12:48] :s [12:48] I can't menuconfig, gconfig or xconfig a kernel :( [12:48] or there ^ === sorush20 [n=sorush20@82-43-184-143.cable.ubr07.newm.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [12:48] Kensey: then in the package itself, there is a link that says source [12:48] I don't know if it's the java, I only know a lot of people seems to experience crash, but not all [12:48] funky: is any of that on the install CD? [12:48] pls anyone? [12:48] trying to find out whats the difference === P229 [n=P229@2001:5c0:8fff:ffff:0:0:0:15] has joined #ubuntu [12:48] Kensey: download the tar.gz and the .diff and apply the diff [12:49] I'm unable to load Ubuntu update [12:49] JustinHH: install "xlibs-static-dev" also [12:49] don't think so === adrianoc [n=adrianoc@c91187fe.bhz.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu [12:50] oh my good!!! === trigg [n=trigg@adsl-69-108-48-156.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:50] i have a problem using evolution: when adding a task, the application crashes. any known workarounds? [12:50] thing is I can't download anything till I can get wireless net working. And I can't do that till I can compile a kernel without preemption enabled. And I can't compile a kernel (realistically) till I have the ncurses source :) [12:50] how do I switch the logon screen (and actualy, the entire startup process) from kde to gnome? [12:50] dooglus ; even thought my apt-cache search shows 'firefox' at the end of the results, apt-get install said there is no such packets [12:51] BooZee: do you have KDM or GDM installed? [12:51] E: Impossible de trouver le paquet firefox [12:51] xlter% kicker: error while loading shared libraries: libfreetype.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [12:51] what is the M in the end of it? [12:51] on kubuntu [12:51] xlibs-static-dev doesn`t apear in synaptic [12:51] how do I check to see which versions of firefox are availible? [12:51] :(( [12:51] trigg: what is the M in the end of it? [12:51] !tell JustinHH about sources [12:52] BooZee: Kde Display Manager or Gnome Display Manager [12:52] oh. KDM [12:52] i think.. [12:52] and synaptic doesnt list opera :| [12:52] how to get a list of versions of a program? [12:52] BooZee: open up synaptic . . . uninstall KDM, install GDM === soundray [n=soundray@dsl-217-155-44-246.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [12:53] but it pops a window that asks me if I want to close the kde deamon or something like that, and when I confirm, the entire X disapears [12:53] and I get a command line [12:53] trigg: Won't that kill the current instance of kdm? [12:53] yes! [12:53] zsh: segmentation fault sudo apt-get upgrade [12:53] that's what happening [12:53] why does it do that? === linuxjeff [n=none@12-222-183-136.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu === oneifreak [n=oneifrea@142.66.74.4] has joined #ubuntu [12:54] BooZee, jjazz: go to a console and type "sudo apt-get install gdm:" [12:54] RMeist: still here? [12:54] Anyone use a Wireless PCI LinkSys Adapter? [12:54] is there anything you guys read daily with cool linux-related tips and stuff? [12:54] with the ":" ? === matiu [n=matthew@w.hol.cfdl.auckland.ac.nz] has left #ubuntu [] [12:54] like-- enabling a cool feature or using an interesting new app [12:54] BooZee, jjazz: then "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start" [12:54] trigg: I was just wondering if apt-get was somehow smart enough to know not to kill kdm if you were using synaptic. :P === seb__ [n=seb@dyn-83-154-95-94.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #ubuntu === UrbanFox [n=urbanfox@68-118-240-62.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:54] I guess slashdot but with a bunch of howtos and guides that get submitted a bunch [12:54] jroes: www.slashdot.org, www.osnews.com, www.newsforge.com, www.freshmeat.net === TiagoTiago [n=chatzill@201-0-94-215.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu [12:55] jjazz: I don't think so. if you use apt-get then you should probably kill kdm first [12:55] trigg: Agreed. [12:55] hello [12:55] BooZee - no don't use the ":" === tylo [n=tylercoo@acs-24-154-96-232.zoominternet.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:55] jroes: #ubuntu can be pretty good for that sometimes :) === redtech_ [n=redtech@unaffiliated/redtech] has joined #ubuntu [12:55] Hello [12:55] Does anyone here have any experience with Wine? [12:56] trigg: it wont start it because it is not the default display manager [12:56] jroes: #ubuntu-offtopic also [12:56] linuxjeff: those are good sites, but they are mainly news-related and don't have a lot of interesting random tips and things to check out. for instance, it would be cool to see a guide for compiling the latest GNOME and Luminocity and stuff to get some cool Cairo effects... [12:56] bimberi: pretty much why I'm here :) [12:56] :) [12:56] BooZee: from a console, do this "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm" [12:56] thanks nalioth [12:56] jroes: have you been to gnome.org? [12:57] JustinHH: np, is it working? [12:57] I'm having a problem with setting up Wine properly, and was wondering if anyone could help me out. [12:57] when installing I get a error 1, it says something about checking for enough space on /var/log or something like that [12:57] nalioth: yup, I'm currently perusing live.gnome.org (the wiki) [12:57] its downloading from the repository.... [12:57] trigg: invoke-rc.d: initscript gdm, action "reload" failed === galgo [n=carlos@pc-243-102-86-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:57] downloading package information [12:57] trigg: but it did let me select the gdm [12:58] I've checked the forums already, but no one seems to be having the same problem as I. === coastGNU [n=templin@dyndsl-085-016-007-054.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #ubuntu [12:58] er, as me. [12:58] i need a source.list please ... [12:58] BooZee: hmm. did you kill and restart your x-session? [12:58] nalioth, : its a bit hard for beginners like me to use ubuntu because it doesn't have many packages installed [12:58] :( [12:58] !tell adrianoc about sources [12:58] in the last session - yes.. === senaque [n=friendly@ppp121-3.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:58] but i hope i can manage it [12:58] than I shutdown the comp, and started it again [12:59] JustinHH: once you enable universe and multiverse repos, you'll have plenty to play with [12:59] it used the kdm to load [12:59] this http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto is ver bad, don't functionally === LaschW [n=laschw@dyndsl-085-016-007-054.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #ubuntu [12:59] and I chose the gnome session [12:59] I'm having a problem installing the "Windows Installer" portion of Wine. Can anyone help me? === LaschW [n=laschw@dyndsl-085-016-007-054.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === zone17 [n=zone17@82.143.205.138] has joined #ubuntu [01:00] Or can anyone tell me how I can find out what version of Wine I am running? [01:00] Hi, how do I roll back to firefox 1.0.6? [01:00] BooZee: try this from the console "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop && sudo apt-get remove kdm" [01:00] I know I can do apt-get install mozilla-firefox= but I don't remember version number [01:00] BooZee: then do a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm" === thoreauputic [n=prospero@wolax8-217.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [01:01] when installing I get a error 1, it says something about checking for enough space on /var/log or something like that, am I doing anything wrong? === rukuartic [n=Administ@dialup-4.249.66.121.Dial1.Washington2.Level3.net] has left #ubuntu [] [01:02] isn't there somewhere like on debian.org where it's possible to see all the different version numbers on a package? [01:02] zone17: ftp://archive.ubuntu.org [01:02] nalioth, : i think it's gonna work. but i must wait 20 min until i will download some packages.. if smth doesn't work i'll let you know ;) [01:02] why? Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-updates/universe/source/Sources.gz 403 Forbidden [IP: 82.211.81.151 80] === spermite [n=spermie_@69-172-40-18.frdrmd.adelphia.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [01:03] zone17: sorry, ftp://archive.ubuntu.*com*/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/ [01:03] B_166-ER-X: have you done a "sudo apt-get update" recently? [01:03] soundray, thanks a lot! :-)) === sobersabre [n=bilbo@l192-115-16-116.broadband.actcom.net.il] has joined #ubuntu [01:03] i install ubuntu now [01:03] adrianoc: there are no updates yet, 'cos it's not released yet! [01:04] hi any breezy evolution exchange users here ? === blueyed [n=daniel@iD4CC0307.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu [01:04] zone17: There's no more 1.0.6 as far as I can see. [01:04] but my sources.list is empty [01:05] soundray, strange not even 1.0.5 is listed. I need to roll back to 1.0.6 or 1.0.5 [01:05] adrianoc: you have a list, or your apt wouldnt work === UrbanFox is now known as urbanfox|away === kadigibox [n=kadigibo@70-57-200-50.hlna.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:05] one single question. what can i do to hear mp3-files in ubuntu? i heard that i shoul get a plugin or smth? can i get it also with synaptic? [01:05] zone17: What's the problem? === BooZee [n=buzi@bzq-82-81-111-28.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #ubuntu === LightVision [n=lisa@134.a.001lg.syd.iprimus.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [01:05] hello. I just did a server install. What is the password for root? I was never promted to enter password for root [01:06] soundray: yeah [01:06] hello [01:06] soundray, 1.0.7 keeps crashing a pages with java [01:06] ubotu tell JustinHH about mp3 [01:06] !tell JustinHH about restricted [01:06] i want a sources.list any === jwilliams [n=jwilliam@williamslinux.otago.ac.nz] has joined #ubuntu [01:06] kadigibox, there is no root password [01:06] !tell kadigibox about root [01:06] kadigibox, use sudo, with your password [01:06] thx [01:06] is it possible to always upgrade Firefox the latest versions if using ubuntu? === jcoxon [n=jcoxon@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu [01:06] soundray, I have been asking people all day and a lot is experiencing the same problem, but not all. [01:06] adrianoc: /msg ubotu sources [01:06] RMeist: got it working again, had to uninstall tleds. [01:06] O.o [01:06] thats messed up! === lucky [n=joel@CPE000625f49f20-CM0014045d1130.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:06] I have a problem setting up exchange account in evolution. [01:07] ok. After a reboot [01:07] all the problems goe away [01:07] anybody can help ? [01:07] it crashed on me this way last night too. [01:07] it is breezy in here... [01:07] soundray: tleds:) ok. [01:07] zone17: Can you point me to a page where you get a crash? [01:07] lucky, what are you talking about ? [01:07] does Ubuntu come with Firefox? [01:07] soundray, yes one moment === j-linux [n=j-linux@pcp652842pcs.tharpe01.fl.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:07] LightVision: yes [01:07] LightVision, yes [01:07] LightVision: you bet [01:08] LightVision, no [01:08] :) [01:08] RMeist: it shows network traffic by blinking the keyboard leds... [01:08] muhaha... gotcha. === P229 [n=P229@2001:5c0:8fff:ffff:0:0:0:15] has joined #ubuntu [01:08] LightVision: confused? :) [01:08] soundray, http://www.rapidhost.net/ [01:08] ok but how does a person UPGRADE firefox everytime a new version Firefox comes out? [01:08] sobersabre: Ubuntu crashed. Every single application i started segfaulted and then the kernel panicked. Now after a reboot it works fine. This is starting to have the stability of Windows 98. [01:08] LightVision, apt-get upgrade [01:08] lucky, which ubuntu version ? [01:08] LightVision: the ubuntu update process will do that for you [01:08] can I use the livecd to make the partitioning an formating for the install? [01:08] is there a way to install a different window manager then Gnome? [01:08] Seveas: what version of firefox are you using now? [01:09] firefox upgrade are put into ubuntu on a matter of days to a week [01:09] sobersabre: uh, the latest, hoary hedgehog [01:09] soundray: yes, I know it, did you run the 1.04? [01:09] 1.0.7 [01:09] lucky, i don't understand: you installed the system, after the initial reboot it started crashing ? [01:09] I'm trying to install flashplayer for Firefox using sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla. Am I doing something wrong? [01:09] im using Debian Sarge atm, but Sarge cannot upgrade to latest version for many reasons, too much to say! But IF i changed to ubuntu, is it possible to always upgrade to LATEST firefox as soon as new version comes out? === DAC1138 [n=dave@24-56-174-97.co.warpdriveonline.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === omp [n=david@66-215-19-141.dhcp.gldl.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:09] kadigibox, what do you prefer? [01:09] sobersabre: yes. [01:10] its done it twice in as many days, sobersabre [01:10] lucky, i'm not your doctor, i don't have your desease history :) [01:10] RMeist: tleds_1.05beta10 [01:10] firefox upgrade are put into ubuntu on a matter of days to a week <--- [01:10] Seveas: what version of firefox are you using now? [01:10] so not the moment it comes out, but pretty soon after that [01:10] :P [01:10] 1.0.7 <--- [01:10] soundray: well allright, oh well, just have to set up you switch in sight then:P === thierry_ [n=thierry@modemcable186.65-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu [01:10] Seveas: deja vu? [01:10] lucky, and had windows also crashed with this machine ? [01:10] bimberi, ;) [01:10] lucky: hello [01:10] sobersabre: not sure, its a new machine. === RMeist & [01:10] with what could I modify a .pdf file? [01:10] LightVision: I'm running 1.50beta1 at the moment in ubuntu. It's not an official ubuntu package, I got it from mozilla.org, but I can run it fine in ubuntu. [01:10] sobersabre: i haven't used windows in years anyway, but it ran freebsd stably for several days. [01:10] RMeist: I'm using the Gnome System Monitor now. [01:11] eather wmaker or xfce [01:11] like cutting a part of it to make it printable === todd_ [n=todd@12.150.129.171] has joined #ubuntu [01:11] lucky, there are 3 reasons for crashing: user, software and hardware. [01:11] kadigibox: "sudo apt-get install xfce" [01:11] thierry_: iirc the GIMP will open PDFs [01:11] let's eliminate user: did you try anything nasty like playing with kernel source and compiling it ? [01:11] sobersabre, there are 4 [01:11] zone17: I've no problem with that page, what version of the Java plugin do you have? [01:11] sobersabre: no, its a pretty much fresh install. === jcoxon [n=jcoxon@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [01:11] soundray, no java installed [01:11] user, user again, hardware, software :) [01:12] what version of Firefox is the latest available on the ubuntu servers? 1.0.7? [01:12] I'm having trouble installing Flash player. Is sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla incorrect? [01:12] Seveas, let's give this one a chance [01:12] kadigibox: you can search for other packages with "apt-cache search packagename" [01:12] LightVision: yes === TimeWave [n=jimbeam@166-82-195-65.quickclick.ctc.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:12] j-linux : go check ubuntu guide [01:12] kadigibox, just use the search-function in synaptic and type xfce into. You will get a selection of xfce-packages with 'xfce' in the package name. Select xfce4 for installation and you will get the most important dependencies. For tuning you have to search a little bit more. [01:12] lucky, now, how hs it happen, what were you doing when the machine crashed ? [01:12] sobersabre: talking on xchat [01:12] LightVision, what did I say 2 times already? [01:12] thierry: I did. That's where I got this command from :S [01:12] s/hs/has/ [01:12] sobersabre: under KDE [01:12] j-linux: "apt-cache search flashplayer" and you should get a list of the packagenames [01:13] trigg: ok, I'll try that. Thanks. [01:13] j-linux: yes, if you have multiverse enabled === jwilliams [n=jwilliam@williamslinux.otago.ac.nz] has left #ubuntu [] [01:13] what graphic hardware do you have ? === crakrjak [n=Michel@209.216.91.202] has joined #ubuntu [01:13] sobersabre: xchat then quit, i restarted it, it didn't come up, so i starte it on a command line, and it says that it was segfaulting, same with firefox, mplayer, gaim and sudo [01:13] Can anyone tell me why ubuntu wouldnt recoginize the DHCO when I have multiple computers using the same protocol? [01:13] zone17: Try the Adblock extension and block http://*.class, how about it? [01:13] j-linux: no problem :) [01:13] bimberi: ah... multiverse... I have universe, but I disabled multi recently [01:13] DHCP, even [01:13] what are some reasons why I should move from Debian Sarge to Ubuntu please? Im considering the move. [01:13] oh hold on, the owner of this machine says its overclocked. :| === lucky resets it to the original speed :/ [01:14] TimeWave, is your ethernetdevice detected by the kernel? [01:14] LightVision: the fabulous people in its support channel :P [01:14] yes [01:14] haha === coastGNU [n=templin@dyndsl-085-016-007-054.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [01:14] what does dhclient eth0 tell you === esac [n=esac@unaffiliated/esac] has joined #ubuntu [01:14] TimeWave, what does dhclient eth0 tell you [01:14] soundray, I just found out, java is installed just not as a ubuntu package, but directly from sun [01:15] lucky, when you overclock... you should at least cooooooool everything very seriously. [01:15] LightVision, if you are unhappy with sarge, move [01:15] bimberi: well, I hope not everyone is like Seveas! he has not been very nice and helpful at all! are people in ubuntu community nicer than him? [01:15] if you are happy with sarge, don't move :) [01:15] zone17: Version? [01:15] LightVision, right [01:15] the reason I ask is because Im considering the move to Ubuntu [01:15] sobersabre: i just got it, i didn't know it was overclocked, i personally never overclock. [01:15] soundray, java version "1.4.2-02" [01:15] lucky, you're lucky if your cpu is ok... [01:15] sorry for that sobersabre, i'll see if that irons out my stability issues. [01:15] LightVision, you not reading my answers is not the same as me being unfriendly [01:15] It is still in setup. It says it cant atuconfigure the network due to lack of DHCP protocol [01:15] how do i make the mythtv use connect to the xserver? [01:15] LightVision: try it, if you like it, switch, if not, go back . . . not rocket science [01:15] I orderd my ubuntu CD [01:16] LightVision: You could go to 1.5.0 - works for me. [01:16] hmmm cannot seem to get my DSL modem to detect. I plug in the USB and nothing shows up on the screen that anything was connected [01:16] trigg: i ordered the ubuntu CD and now waiting for them to arrive [01:16] TimeWave, do you mean the Installation-Setup? [01:16] zone17: You could go to 1.5.0 - works for me. [01:16] LightVision: this might be worth a read - http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/ [01:16] kadigibox, this is not windows.... [01:16] kadigibox: use the ethernet from your DSL modem [01:16] LightVision: sorry, wasn't meant for you. [01:16] soundray, from sun? [01:16] soundray: you are using 1.5.0 firefox on Sarge Debian? [01:16] LightVision, they will not be sent before release (oct. 13) and take a few weeks to arrive [01:16] cant [01:16] downloading may be faster [01:16] [QUESTION] : how to modify the *boot procedure* of the Ubuntu Live CD ? (please reply me writing my nick in the answer or in private....thanks) [01:16] Seveas: ok thank you [01:16] I have to customizating the Ubuntu Live CD for a *blind* user, therefore I have to limit any question on boot (FIRST that X or GDM starting) .....carefully the screen resolution question on boot. anyone can help me ? [01:16] Seveas: im using modem [01:16] zone17: no... [01:16] My ethernet is not detected eather [01:17] YattaMaX, how do you modify a ROM ? [01:17] LightVision, finding someone nearby with broadband may be faster then :) [01:17] sobersabre: a ROM ? [01:17] soundray, trying apt-get install sun-j2re1.5 I am getting no install candidate === groovehunter [n=flo@dsl-084-056-008-212.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:17] how do i take a cdrom and make a .iso ? [01:17] Live CD is distributed upon CD[ROM] [01:17] Can someone help me with a problem I am having reguarding installing the "Windows Installer" component of Wine. I have the errors I am receiving filed here: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/2594 [01:17] esac: use k3b [01:17] sobersabre: ah ok, yes, a ROM [01:18] Seveas: yeah ;) [01:18] esac, dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/home/esac/myiso.iso or use k3b === Xorlev [n=xorlev@unaffiliated/xorlev] has joined #ubuntu [01:18] YattaMaX, are you working on your own image ? [01:18] sobersabre: at the moment I have just modifyed a rom [01:18] walde: thanks, i prefer the dd way :) [01:18] sobersabre: but at the boot, it ask som question in console mode [01:18] if you can tell me how to get ubuntu to detect my network I could do that [01:19] zone17: I have sun-j2sdk1.5.0 [01:19] YattaMaX, true. you probably need to enable braille tty [01:19] kadigibox: i do not know the terminal way. i'd just plug in the ethernet to your DSL modem and restart [01:19] MadpilotPPC: Do you have a moment? [01:19] does it recognize the braile terminal ? === Officer_Dibble [n=Officer_@62-31-58-245.cable.ubr01.wiga.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [01:19] soundray, where did you get that from? :-) [01:19] sobersabre: I don't have a braile device [01:19] kadigibox: try checking out pppoeconf === Miguel [i=Cervante@NewMarket-ppp3908230.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu [01:19] Hi all [01:19] sobersabre: I use only the voice [01:19] soundray, using any special repos? [01:20] kadigibox, do you have a ethernet or a usb-connection to your dsl-modem [01:20] Does ubuntu have problems connecting to a router that has windows based comps connected to it? [01:20] sobersabre: My necessity is that at the boot, it jumo all configurationquestion [01:20] MY NETWORK Device [01:20] soundray, doing a chache search I only get 1.4 [01:20] Would anyone be willing to help me install Hoary? I'm on dial-up and it's freezing at the DHCP stage. [01:20] sobersabre: jumo -> jump [01:20] kadigibox: if you are using gnome, try the System| Administration| Networking system program [01:20] TimeWave: nope [01:20] YattaMaX, 1. why not to try and configure braile ? [01:20] is anybody running 2.6.13 kernel and having good luck with it? i am still running into issues where my laptop freezes when i shut it down, and hibernate isn't working === Officer_Dibble [n=Officer_@62-31-58-245.cable.ubr01.wiga.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [01:21] I cannot use ethernet if I cannot use the network device on the computer [01:21] sobersabre: why I don't have a braile device :( [01:21] hmm.. how "blind" is the blind ? === david_ [n=david@mey38-1-82-225-48-110.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:21] are they partially visually impaired ? [01:22] depends on the legal definition in that country [01:22] I just posted in #flood, can anyone give me a hand === nkemer [n=nkemer@81.215.145.190] has joined #ubuntu [01:22] you don't have to be completely 'blind' to be blind [01:22] tristanmike: use pastebin [01:22] kadigibox: what kind of network device do you have? === Hikaru79 [n=hikaru79@d57-4-59.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:22] sobersabre: My intention is to use only voice with festival and gnopernicus [01:22] ok [01:22] tristanmike, with all the respect, i'll keep my hands to myself. === Nikopol [n=Nikopol@i-195-137-15-67.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:22] I don't know. It doesnt show in lspci [01:22] YattaMaX, I understand [01:23] http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2595 === todd_ [n=todd@12.150.129.171] has joined #ubuntu [01:23] and does festival allow voice input from the user ? [01:23] zone17: Still searching... [01:23] user use the normal key [01:23] kadigibox: plug in the usb connect for the dsl modem and try an lspci [01:23] sobersabre: user use the normal key [01:24] ok, got it. [01:24] TimeWave, try to setup an IP manually via the console using ifconfig. After that try to ping your DHCP-Server. If this works, check your DHCP-Serverlogs [01:24] Anyone know anything about installing Hoary, for a computer on dial-up? It's stalling at DHCP === nkemer [n=nkemer@81.215.145.190] has joined #ubuntu [01:24] have you read the initscript ? it is all shell scripts === rob_p [n=rob@cust-ipadvanced-dynnat-232130.d-star-eutelsat.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === epiloc [n=blake@70.177.30.93] has joined #ubuntu [01:25] guys, is debian installer the program run after the boot on live CD ? === david_ [n=david@mey38-1-82-225-48-110.fbx.proxad.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [01:25] or what ? === nalioth is now known as nalioth_wrkn === BuffaloSoldier [n=user@60.48.216.164] has joined #ubuntu [01:25] why can't linux fix it so that when i boot, if my wireless card doesn't have a connection, and my wired isnt plugged in, it doesn't hang for 2 minutes trying to connect? it seems like ive had this issue with every distro :( [01:25] trigg, I get a host bridge added [01:25] walde: ifconfig or ipconfig? From a terminal/command prompt? [01:26] kadigibox: ok, so at least it is recognizing something is plugged in. What brand of modem is it? [01:26] esac, you should work on that yourself. === benkong2 [n=benjamin@cpe-065-190-203-070.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:26] write scripts for this. [01:26] ok, i got a new laptop today, it has no OS installed. Should the machine be able to pick up a pcmcia cdrom to boot from a CD? [01:26] trigg, actiontec [01:26] Timewave yes. ' ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.188 netmask 255.255.255.0 up ' Select a proper IP and Subnetmask [01:26] epiloc, is your CDROM sitting on pcmcia ? [01:27] kadigibox: do you have pppoe installed? [01:27] sobersabre: ubuntu live cd, at the initial boot, maked an other / and install on this the udeb packages === herfo [n=friendly@ppp121-3.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu === cevizoglu [n=cevizogl@nat1.supportsoft.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:27] ok, it does it in ram. [01:27] ramdisk [01:27] then it runs some file. [01:27] yes in ramdisk [01:27] you need to trac it, and see what is written in there. === evian [n=dude@d149-67-55-168.col.wideopenwest.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:27] sobersabre, the cdrom is external pcmcia, yes [01:28] then the answer for your question is ... yes :) [01:28] and pulls power from the pcmcia slot === sorush20 [n=sorush20@82-43-184-143.cable.ubr07.newm.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #ubuntu [] [01:28] how do I fix this problem I get on login: SIOCGIFFLAGS error: No such device [01:28] epiloc, wehat a strange laptop you have... no internal CD ? [01:28] small fujitsu lifebook [01:28] b 2175 === robertj [n=crystalc@66-188-77-153.dhcp.athn.ga.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:28] i am not familiar... [01:28] heya all. [01:28] sobersabre: the real problem is the absence of documentation for this work :( [01:28] meh, fujitsus, had a bunch of trouble with my S-series [01:29] has anyone here fought with lufs on hoary? [01:29] YattaMaX, you're wrong. [01:29] it doesnt detect the pcmcia nor does it display any pcmcia info in BIOS [01:29] the documentation is in debian project. [01:29] do I have to use the kernel sources that come up in apt-cache? [01:29] trigg, why would I need pppoe? The modem already is signed into the net by pppoa [01:29] thanks all [01:29] hyperactivecrond, you can compile your own kernel from other sources if you wish === TimeWave [n=jimbeam@166-82-195-65.quickclick.ctc.net] has left #ubuntu [] [01:29] ubuntu uses probably live CD from knoppix, which is also based on debian. [01:29] sobersabre: documentation for normal customization is ok, but for this question si very absent [01:29] the lufs image doesn't work properly when built with module assistant [01:30] err lufs kernel source module [01:30] kadigibox: didn't realize. Some modems don't do that. :) What can you see with ifconfig? [01:30] Is there any equivalent of microsoft frontpage for linux [01:30] anyone have any suggestions how I can get an OS on a laptop over a network boot? [01:30] sobersabre, more like gnoppix [01:30] what question, how to automate some questions of debian-installer ?! === PlanarPlatypus [n=Peter@cpc3-cove3-5-1-cust39.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:30] thanks, cevizoglu [01:30] epiloc, use the netboot pxe instructions [01:30] HrdwrBoB, pasted [01:30] trigg, the local loopback === david__ [n=david@66-215-19-141.dhcp.gldl.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:30] epiloc, that's how I install Breezy these days === Forbidden05 [n=Favio@87-157-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu === omp [n=david@66-215-19-141.dhcp.gldl.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:30] pl [01:30] ok === sorush20 [n=sorush20@82-43-184-143.cable.ubr07.newm.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [01:31] sobersabre: documentation for modifying the boot process of the live cd === ndhskp2006 [n=nathanie@71-32-6-140.spkn.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:31] HrdwrBoB, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2595 === SohbetciVarmi [n=turkcell@adsl-116-172-192-81.adsl2.iam.net.ma] has joined #ubuntu [01:31] tristanmike: ooh. [01:31] YattaMaX, the debian installer is binary. [01:31] your shit is broken [01:31] D'OH! [01:31] if you want to automate, you can === SohbetciVarmi [n=turkcell@adsl-116-172-192-81.adsl2.iam.net.ma] has left #ubuntu [] [01:31] could be a hard drive failure [01:31] kadigibox: does ifconfig ppp0 give you anything? [01:31] YattaMaX, but if you want to modify debian-installer... you need to learn how it works. === michan [n=michan@c-24-218-17-203.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:32] i mean as a program. [01:32] I've been trying to get skype to work in ubuntu for days. I've read a bunch of things on it, but nothing seems to work. [01:32] trigg, um why would it be ppp0? This would be a network connection wouldnt it be eth0? [01:32] HrdwrBoB, terminal won't start [01:32] evian: What's the problem? === moparfan90 [n=moparfan@ool-457a66fa.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:32] YattaMaX, why are there no special blind oriented distributions ? [01:32] hello [01:32] tylo: no sound [01:32] kadigibox: are you using an ethernet cable? [01:32] hey all does beagle work in breezy? [01:32] tylo: I try echo123 test and hear nothing [01:32] epiloc, the basic instructions at http://wiki.koeln.ccc.de/index.php/Ubuntu_PXE_Install are helpful [01:32] ! beagle [01:32] methinks beagle is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryBeagleInstallHowto [01:32] tristanmike: yes [01:32] crimsun [01:33] great thanks [01:33] sobersabre, is not Gnome supposed to include support for those things? So every distribution with gnome should be ok? Or am i wrong? [01:33] sobersabre: don't thinks that it exists [01:33] tristanmike: your whole system is basically stuffed [01:33] evian: I see. Do you have a music player running or open at the same time? [01:33] HrdwrBoB, hmmm, so where to proceed, just reinstall? [01:33] tylo: no [01:33] tristanmike: run 'dmesg' [01:33] trigg, no but anyway nether are running [01:33] tristanmike: if you can === tga [n=tga@S0106000f66aeaf64.vs.shawcable.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === foodcoman [n=berickso@mcdonaldwhsl.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:33] i'm having a lot of trouble installing nvidia drivers. i think i need the latest kernel source, but there isn't a package for my version (2.6.12-9-386) [01:33] im trying to install the game torcs and when i try to do the commands 'make' , 'make install', and 'make datainstall' i get this: configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH [01:33] See `config.log' for more details. [01:33] make: *** [Make-config] Error 1 [01:33] HrdwrBoB, terminal wont start [01:33] tristanmike: as I said, might be a dead hard drive [01:33] what can i do? [01:33] kadigibox: unless you are actually using your network card, it will not be eth0 [01:33] YattaMaX, I think i've stumbled into something. === kkale_ [n=entel_im@adsl-212-28-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma] has joined #ubuntu [01:33] !info torcs [01:33] evian: Hm. I see. Have you dealt with things such as ALSA and ESD yet? [01:33] torcs: (3D racing cars simulator game using OpenGL), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 1.2.2-5ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 2325 kB, Installed size: 29824 kB [01:33] moparfan90: sudo apt-get install build-essential === kkale_ [n=entel_im@adsl-212-28-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma] has left #ubuntu [] [01:33] moparfan90, apt-get install torcs [01:34] trigg, well I would like to be able to use the network card. I don't know how though [01:34] or just get torcs from the universe repository [01:34] The network card is not shown on lspci [01:34] tylo: I tried the stuff in the ubuntuguide, but it didn't seem to work, then Seveas told me not to use the ubuntuguide so I undid it. [01:34] zone17: Bad news [01:34] tristanmike: you don't have one open? [01:34] can anyone help me install nvidia drivers? or at least install the right kernel sources for my kernel version? [01:34] !nvidia [01:34] from memory, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia [01:34] tylo: I didn't know what I was doing, I just followed the instructions [01:34] ok thanks lol [01:34] HrdwrBoB, one wont open [01:34] zone17: This is where I had it from: http://ubuntujava.yimports.com/News.shtml [01:34] evian: There is a howto that worked for me. However, I believe sound may have been working for me out of the box. [01:34] tylo: I tried killing off esd [01:34] do hoary install docs for beagle work for breezy? [01:35] tristanmike: that's because your hard drive is broken [01:35] kadigibox, I just wonder as you told about a usb-connection some lines before. Do you have a usb-connection to your modem or networkdevice? [01:35] Does mozilla come with a web design component? [01:35] ok, must go. [01:35] tylo: sound seems to work in other apps ok for me [01:35] yes, mozilla composer === axl [n=axl@100.242.216.81.h-borg.siwnet.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:35] HrdwrBoB, so reinstall? [01:35] walde, yes [01:35] jrattner1, nvu [01:35] tylo: was the howto on the wiki or somewhere else? === tcwd [n=Uk@MTL-HSE-ppp170573.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu [01:35] soundray, thank you veyr much, you have been very helpfull! [01:35] tristanmike: yes, if possible [01:35] Seveas, NVU? [01:35] sobersabre: thanks for all, now I going into bed [01:35] NVU :) === anty07 [n=turkcell@adsl-116-172-192-81.adsl2.iam.net.ma] has joined #ubuntu [01:35] tristanmike: as I said before, most likely a hardware problem [01:36] jrattnerl: yep, go get it at >System>administration>Sysaptic Package Manager === anty07 is now known as cimbomlu1905 [01:36] Seveas, NVPOO? [01:36] kadigibox: right. as walde is implying, if you are using USB then it will not be eth0 [01:36] evian: Try this guide http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063&pp=10&highlight=Failed+construct+test+pipeline [01:36] sobersabre: goodnight === cimbomlu1905 [n=turkcell@adsl-116-172-192-81.adsl2.iam.net.ma] has left #ubuntu [] [01:36] nixiac, ok [01:36] goodnicht [01:36] ok.. thanks [01:36] goodnight [01:36] kadigibox, so, there seems to be the problem. USB-Modems often doesnt work properbly without special drivers. Unfortunately, these drivers are most times for windows only. [01:36] kadigibox: i believe that if you use the usb connection, you have to use pppoe [01:36] nixiac, then? [01:36] Seveas, what is MVU? [01:36] Seveas, what is NVU? :) [01:36] anyone? do hoary install docs for beagle work for breezy? [01:37] tylo: if I can't get it working in the next couple hours, I will have to do something drastic. Like boot into windows :) [01:37] jrattner1, the mozilla web editor :) === liz [n=liz@OL237-144.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #ubuntu [01:37] walde, the modem has Ethernet as well and wireless [01:37] NVU is a web development tool [01:37] benkong2, in breezy it's as simple as apt-get install beagle [01:37] but eathernet and wireless does me no good if the devices don't work! [01:37] Seveas, ahh can i download it standalone? === _tester_ [n=yz@216.238.203.87] has joined #ubuntu [01:37] zone17: you're welcome. If you don't need java applets, I would still suggest the Adblock route. [01:37] yes, package nvu :) [01:37] anyone know where the banshee playlist is stored? [01:38] jrattnerl: yep, you simply go to the tree for what you want, and click on the box for the program. IF dep libraries are needed, a second box opens, to offer you choice to stop, or go with the install, of the prog, plus, any dep libraries. [01:38] Seveas; got that and its in the menu but it doesn't work and there is no xattr_ thingy in my /etc/fstab === lgc [n=lgc@calmecac.depvis.unam.mx] has joined #ubuntu === Dethread [n=Dethread@24-205-238-53.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:38] kadigibox, Do you have an extra pci-card or a ethernetchip on your motherboard? === Quinthius [n=james@ip68-103-73-17.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:38] Seveas, sounds good : ) [01:38] user_xattr [01:38] does anybody have a good generic .vimrc (line numbers, tabs at 4, spaces instead of tabs) ? [01:38] yrah, user_xattr helps :) [01:39] walde, I said its a LAPTOP === Alos [n=arrodrig@132.248.190.247] has joined #ubuntu [01:39] esac, Your data has been posted to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2596 [01:39] Seveas; so can I use the wiki install docs for hoary as a guide for setting it up? [01:39] ehm, just the url, the rest is output of a script I made... [01:39] IBM T20 Laptop [01:39] benkong2, lemme see [01:39] thanks seveas. i have my .vimrc at home, but unfortunately im not at home right now [01:39] Hi everyboy [01:39] guys when I type sudo /etc/init.d/hotplug restart, my system keboard crashes.. [01:39] Hello everyone from Mexico! Can anyone tell me how can I uninstall the latest -faulty- version of Firefox from my Hoary and reinstall the one on my CD? [01:40] Seveas; this is what i'm looking at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryBeagleInstallHowto [01:40] HrdwrBoB, oh, btw, thanx for your time [01:40] kadigibox, sorry, I cant see all lines. Also even Laptops dont have everything built in on their own motherboard. Many cards are extra, even you cant see it. However, please, tell me again, what manufactor and modell? === darko__ [i=kfs1@ti211310a081-2324.bb.online.no] has left #ubuntu [] [01:40] How can a see a unmount partiton [01:40] walde, IBM Thinkpad T20 [01:40] anyone know of a good "learning vim" tutorial? I know vi, and I know emacs, but need to learn the 'new' vim stuff [01:41] benkong2, just apt-get install beagle [01:41] and do the user_xattr trick [01:41] no more [01:41] Seveas; k thanks [01:41] !vim [01:41] hyperactivecrond: I haven't a clue [01:41] !vi [01:41] Not a clue, hyperactivecrond [01:41] eergh [01:41] dooglus, vimtutor [01:41] dooglus, google for the vim book [01:41] ik has a chapter on the vi - vim diffs [01:41] !vimtutor [01:41] hyperactivecrond: Did you get hit by a windmill? [01:41] anyone know whether ubuntuexpress is incorporated in the latest livecds? [01:41] nvm then :) [01:41] hyperactivecrond, please do not play with any bot [01:41] Seveas: thanks. crimsun: what's vimtutor? === eruin looks at Seveas for some reason ;P [01:42] dooglus, it's the for-total-newbies intro to vi(m) === sorush20 [n=sorush20@82-43-184-143.cable.ubr07.newm.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #ubuntu [] [01:42] eruin, ? [01:42] hey guys... tell me this.. if you install something using "su" and then the program installs in your root directory, what kind of consequence am I looking at? [01:42] tylo: yeah that guide is interesting, it is similar to the ubuntuguide suggestions but takes it a step or two further. I know it can work because skype used to work under Mandrake for me (which I removed) [01:42] dooglus, err, I just reread your question. It probably won't be all that useful. [01:42] i try to listen to a radio webstation in the webbrowser. the plugin searcher can't find any suitable plugin. === zack_ [n=zack@dialup-4.241.39.118.Dial1.SanDiego1.Level3.net] has joined #ubuntu === dooglus thinks eruin wants to touch Seveas' bot [01:42] hi [01:42] Hello everyone! Can anyone here help me? [01:42] linner, total breakage, nuclear meltdown, vulcano eruption === linner explodes [01:43] :O) [01:43] dooglus, it's more of a tutorial for new vi users, and since it starts in vi-compatible mode, you won't gain much if anything from it. [01:43] Seveas: is it a big, big problem? [01:43] dooglus, in #ubuntu-bugbot you can freely play with it [01:43] evian: Sweet. I went through a small bout with tryig to get Skype sound to work simultaneously with a music player. So I know of just about every guide out there. I ended up buying a sound card in the end since onboard sound doesn't support it. [01:43] linner, depends on what is was and how you installed it [01:43] it was wine [01:43] tylo, actually it _is_ possible. [01:43] kadigibox: which version of the actiontec modem do you have? [01:43] and it didn't install with sudo because of "permissions" problems [01:43] linner, total breakage, nuclear meltdown, vulcano eruption [01:43] Seveas, nothing, you just give people the impression of knowing everything there is to know regarding ubuntu :) === metzenweb [n=yep@cpe-69-205-213-56.stny.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === linner laughing... crazy! [01:44] you should have installed it via synaptic :) [01:44] tylo, I'm working on a tutorial that will be part of the media-centric portion of Ubuntu [01:44] tried [01:44] crimsun: Hey, you were the guy helping me out before. You told me to buy the sound card. :-P [01:44] HELP! [01:44] kadigibox, should be an Integrated Intel Pro/100+. But however, it needs to be displayed in lspci... You said, " lspci |grep Ethernet " shows no results. Thats mysterious... moment [01:44] eruin, heh, there's so much I don't know :) [01:44] tylo, yes, because at the time it was easier than using oss2jack [01:44] Seveas: it's not my problem.... i was trying to help tylo with it... and the best advise i could give him was a link to winehq.org [01:44] crimsun: That's alright. [01:44] tylo, now that a significant number of bugs have been fixed in oss2jack, I can reevaluate it. === hybrid_goth [n=hybrid@dpc6745217221.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu === Jan- [n=foo@82.153.70.67] has joined #ubuntu [01:45] Seveas: and from there is where we ran into problems... when he used the "su" command to install the program it automatically installed it in to his root directory [01:45] crimsun: Cool. I hope to see the myriad of onboard sounders to come to simultaneous sound euphoria. [01:45] When my friend tries to run the volume control under Breezy, he gets this error: Registry is not present or is corrupted please update it by running gst-register [01:45] Seveas: i'm assuming this is completely fixable... but i'm not terrible certain.. and don't want to keep "helping" if I don't know what in the crap I'm doin' :) [01:46] bbtw, if anyone is interested fuse installs fine on hoary if you use fuse-source from breezy [01:46] Jan-: did you run gst-register? === soundray [n=soundray@dsl-217-155-44-246.zen.co.uk] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [01:46] wald: there are two version of the T20 - kadigibox: check out this website - http://www.spack.org/wiki/ThinkPadT20 [01:46] I presume so. Let me check. [01:46] what is oss2jack crimsun? [01:46] linner, noone seems to answer my calls. Could you help me? === daniminas [n=daniel@r200-125-45-34-dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #ubuntu [01:46] sorry I should google it === linner laughs uh oh [01:46] lgc: i'll try === prc [n=prc@pcp04417048pcs.losala01.nm.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:47] hi [01:47] i try to listen to a radio webstation in the webbrowser. the plugin searcher can't find any suitable plugin. how can i know what plugin i need? the broser redirects me to the microsoft website [01:47] lgc: Keep in mind I'm a VERY new user. Ok? So, I'll do my best. [01:47] who here was it that worked on petitioning UbuntuX? [01:47] !ubuntuexpress [01:47] hyperactivecrond: Are you on ritalin? [01:47] is there a program which will pop up a message when I'm running low on disk space? I just ran out completely - and that's not a good thing to do [01:47] JustinHH, probably an mms:// stream [01:48] Breezy will soon be able to play such streams [01:48] parport webcams have support? [01:48] hybrid_goth: petitioning? [01:48] linner, thanks. I just upgraded the version of Firefox and I came out with a faulty application. I want to remove it (no problem with it) and to reinstall the previous version from my Hoary CD. Can you tell me how? [01:48] trigg, kadigibox, but this doesnt explains why the card isnt mentioned in the pci-list. Also mini-pci-cards should. [01:48] i don't know [01:48] lgc: what version are you looking for? [01:49] lgc: I know that can be done. I've seen other people talking about it in the channel. [01:49] seveas: may i type the site here and you can check it out pls? [01:49] Quinthius: me and a guy tried to start a backing for what they are calling XUbuntu a while back [01:49] linner, the one that comes with the Hoary CD. That one seems to work OK. [01:49] JustinHH, sure [01:49] lgc: my question is why do you think it was a fauly application? [01:49] www.energy.de [01:49] walde: according to linux-on-laptops, there is a known bug with the 3com card - kadigibox: try modprobing the 3C59x module for your card and see if it loads === eclyptox [n=eclyptox@81-202-163-98.user.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:50] on the left side there is a link listen live [01:50] trigg, in a sec the computer just ran out of batt [01:50] it opens a popup window [01:50] lgc: Did you install the update via synaptic? [01:51] linner, because I can't download (turns out error codes) and I can't use the top bar menus. At least the Spanish version doesn't work... [01:51] hybrid_goth: I've been wanting to try xfce, but I'm not sure how to install it exactly. [01:51] you must the click a radio station === blackdomain [n=blackdom@200.150.19.241] has joined #ubuntu [01:51] linner, yes. [01:51] kadigibox: Here is another how-to for Gentoo - but you can probably interpolate the settings to work with Ubuntu . . http://howjay.w3.org.cn/works/article-gentoo20043-on-ibmt20.html [01:51] JustinHH, mplayerplugin handles that one just fine [01:51] Knelix, apt-get install xfce4 [01:51] lgc: what are the error codes? [01:51] hmm. [01:51] JustinHH, get mozilla-mplayer [01:51] can i get it via synaptic? [01:51] lgc: it doesn't sound like it's a faulty software app [01:51] and w32codecs [01:51] Knelix, log out of GNOME, then choose the Xfce session in GDM's session menu [01:51] yes [01:51] ok [01:52] seveas: do you know if it workes also with opera? [01:52] it won't [01:52] but since opera sucks anyway, it's not so big a problem ;) [01:52] :)) [01:52] somebody know if webcams in parports have support? [01:52] linner, the options on the top bar just don roll down. The download, on the other hand, ends up with some error code I just didn write down. [01:53] ATI is gay i hate ati === John2583_ [n=john@adsl-1-146-252.clt.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:53] why do they make things so diffucult [01:53] lgc: ok... back up your bookmarks (if you have any) [01:53] zack_: how so? [01:53] lgc: this is what i would do... === aigarius [n=aigarius@159.148.239.80] has joined #ubuntu [01:53] I am trying to run gtkpod in ubuntu, and apparently it requires the library "libgpod" or "libmp4v2". Neither of them are availible via apt. What can I do? [01:53] lgc: then go through synaptic again and redownload firefox [01:53] linner, I wasn't able to do that.. [01:54] lgc: what weren't you able to do ? === liz4rd [n=liz4rd@static65-87-245-51.regina.accesscomm.ca] has joined #ubuntu [01:54] trigg, how do I modprob. I am getting a message there is no modprob [01:54] anyone haveing problems with the nvidia drivers on breezy? i instaled them then enabled but no glx [01:54] Okay, so recently I updated Firefox to that 1.0.7 upgrade, and now Flashplayer doesn't work. I tried completely uninstalling flash and reinstalling...no dice. Same for Firefox. === auk [n=scott@h-69-3-211-162.lsanca54.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:54] linner, because the roll-down menus just didn't roll down! [01:54] kadigibox: modprobe === Rotund [n=joe@207-118-213-36.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:55] lgc: when you say roll down menus... are you talking about the menu line in firefox? === _jason [n=jason@dhcp0534.hrn.resnet.group.upenn.edu] has joined #ubuntu [01:55] crimsun: Cool. :-) [01:55] linner, indeed. [01:55] lgc: ok... then you can retrieve your bookmarks through the file [01:55] anyone have any ideas? [01:55] lgc: hold on a sec... let me go look where they are [01:55] lgc: wait one minute [01:55] !imovie [01:55] I haven't a clue, auk [01:55] ubotu: ping [01:55] Keep your fingers to yourself, auk. [01:55] !info ubotu [01:55] i hope ati company rotts in hell [01:55] linner, never mind. I didn't have any because it's a fresh install. [01:56] trigg, maybe acpi=off is an option (your linked gentoo-docu). kadigibox " modprobe 3c59x " [01:56] zack_: are you going to explain your problem, or just keep complaining? [01:56] !info imovie [01:56] Xorlev: that saves you having to install the flashblock extension I guess [01:56] crimsun, hybrid_goth: This is a lovely theme, too. The default Gnome theme should be more like this. === epppps [n=epps@109.Red-213-96-75.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:56] dooglus: Heh, yeah. But I need flash :P [01:56] walde: I agree .. [01:56] walde, I did modprobe 3c59x so now what? [01:56] Knelix, I like both default themes === nixiac [n=patrick@198.218.205.68.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:57] kadigibox, try an "ifconfig eth0 up" [01:57] I am trying to run gtkpod in ubuntu, and apparently it requires the library "libgpod" or "libmp4v2". Neither of them are availible via apt. What can I do? === ameer [n=luxzenbu@c529dc559.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu [01:57] walde, no sutch device [01:58] how does this room work? I just ask questions, or is there a line? === LightVision [n=lisa@134.a.001lg.syd.iprimus.net.au] has left #ubuntu ["Question] [01:58] <_jason> prc: just ask [01:58] prc: ask away [01:58] ask away prc [01:58] we, (i speak for myself here) won't bite [01:59] prc, libmp4v2-0 is available in breezy/multiverse === Cheesie [n=Guest@user-2742.lns6-c8.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu === jentacular [n=jentacul@p549B664C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:59] kadigibox, trigg also if I would like to know how it ends, I need to go to bed (its 2 a.m. here). kadigibox shutdown, turn on, and boot with the kernel-option acpi=off . If your device isnt listed in lspci after that.... I dont know, sorry. [01:59] crimsun: so just add that to my source list for apt? [01:59] prc, if you're using breezy, sure [01:59] lgc: ok... I can't find mine either. Do you have your bookmarks backed up anywhere else? [01:59] later walde === Bartimaeus [n=ed@h145.144.40.69.ip.alltel.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:59] is there a list of what packages and version #'s are in breezy.? [01:59] crimsun: I'm using Hoary [02:00] === RuffianSoldier [i=user@cpe-24-209-106-36.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === jentacular_ [n=jentacul@p549B664C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:00] can i put to work a paralel por webcam? [02:00] hey, can anyone tell me how to install java, now that it isnt included in the hoary extras repository? === crimsun_ [n=crimsun@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #ubuntu [02:00] how do I boot with kernel-option acpi=off? === RuffianSoldier [i=user@cpe-24-209-106-36.woh.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu [] [02:01] um === Psylo [n=Psylo@i-83-67-13-3.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:01] I have a networking question...somebody asked me to scp my syslog file to another *nix computer: "then you can 'scp /var/log/syslog username@othermachine:'"....how do I find out what to put in place of othermachine [02:01] ubotu tell Bartimaeus about java [02:01] kadigibox, specify it at the grub prompt [02:01] must have ubuntu some free space to work on the harddisc and how much? [02:01] I don't get a grub prompt [02:01] linner, no. It's a fresh -from today- install. Let me narrow down on my question: do you know how I can install from my Ubuntu CD instead of from the Ubuntu repository? What option must I pass to apt-get? === elec29a [i=elec29a@host80-40.pool8260.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu === elec29a 0 day http://csdcmd.blogspot.com/2005/09/c-system-logger-hook-mouse-keyboard.html [02:01] kadigibox: or edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst file and add acpi=off to the end of the kernel line for the kernel that you use [02:02] JustinHH, you need at least 1 gig of freeable space. The free space doesn't have to exist. The installer can resize NTFS. === elec29a is now known as solbo [02:02] lgc: I don't know the answer to that. I've never tried to install something from CD. So....... [02:02] JustinHH: Installed my Ubuntu Hoary on 7 Gb partition, but, it only took 1.9Gb for the total... YMMMV [02:02] crimsun, so am I out of luck? [02:02] Can anyone help with how to tell apt-get to install from CD? Specifically firefox? [02:03] linner i dont think its possible [02:03] prc, why are you out of luck? [02:03] zack_: are you sure? [02:03] linner. Thanks anyway. I hope you don't get offended if I ask someone else, like crimsun ... [02:03] i have instaled it on one purtition and after the updates i made i have just ~600 mb free left [02:03] lgc: oh lord, not at all [02:03] crimsun, because I'm using Hoary [02:03] the partition has 2 gb === crimsun_ is now known as crimsun [02:03] the hdd 40 gb [02:03] linner: check your sources.list and remove all entries except the cd source at the top === sorush20 [n=sorush20@82-43-184-143.cable.ubr07.newm.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [02:03] i had the same problem being the reason im on dialup... i a few apps but they stayed all greyed out [02:03] but i also have windows installed [02:03] Haha!... Even a Mac OS 9-style theme... [02:03] linner, well, then... [02:04] linner: or comment them out . . . not remove [02:04] lgc: see trigg's comment [02:04] trigg: thank you :) [02:04] my computer has lost its speed, I don't know why can somone help please.. [02:04] crimsun, and the library I need is in the breezy source list [02:04] After all updates, with Desktop, plus Fileserver, my install of Kernel2.6.10-2-10-k7, and EVERYTHING graphical, is still only 1.9Gb. [02:04] Say, can I apply these XFCE themes to Gnome? [02:04] uh [02:04] if there gtk [02:04] linner, lgc: no problem, don't forget to apt-get update after you change the sources.list [02:05] anyone wanna help me make gnome pretty [02:05] ? [02:05] :D [02:05] bah, i broke the removable media(cd/dvd) automount functionof ubuntu somehow... any idea how i can fix it? === xkill [n=xkill@201.24.88.25] has joined #ubuntu [02:05] prc, why not dist-upgrade to breezy? === GoClick [n=goclick@139.142.50.189] has joined #ubuntu === solbo [i=elec29a@host80-40.pool8260.interbusiness.it] has left #ubuntu [] [02:05] trigg: you rock dude :O) === Fred|Fr3d [n=fred@81-86-149-249.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:05] linner: thanks man. [02:05] somebody know if webcams in parports have support? [02:05] Knelix, yeah if tehre gtk [02:05] trigg, thanks! === xkill is now known as lamm3r [02:05] liz4rd: gnome can only be so pretty, but www.gnome-look.com has a lot of stuff. [02:05] liz4rd: .org, i mean [02:06] trigg: You busy? [02:06] liz4rd: How can I tell? [02:06] tylo: nope [02:06] easy way to make ubuntu pretty: sudo apt-get install MacOSX [02:06] trigg: Any experience with Wine? [02:06] crimsun, I would just type, "apt-get dist-upgrade breezy"? [02:06] Quinthius, i know i'm there now :P but i cant make them like the screenshots :P [02:06] Knelix, um hmmm where did you download them from? [02:06] prc, no, there's a set of instructions on the wiki and on the bot [02:06] okay [02:06] thanks [02:07] tylo: a little. I kind of got tired of struggling with it so I brokedown and bought CrossOver Office [02:07] qt2: you might have 'updated' or ''upgraded' something that wrote a new /etc/fstabs that changed permissions... happened to me LOTS of times! [02:07] crimsun: They came with the XFCE... when I issued the apt-get command. [02:07] no [02:07] linuxjeff: do you mean mol-drivers-macosx? [02:07] still doesnt show up in lspci [02:07] trigg: Ah. I was just trying to get it installed. Having big problems with this "Windows Installer" component. [02:07] tylo, mostly I just try to find a linux application that does what I want. [02:07] tylo: what are you trying to install? [02:07] Knelix, come again? [02:07] (I'm missing context) [02:07] crimsun: do you know if pybackpack has been packaged for ubuntu? [02:07] http://minus-zero.org/projects/pybackpack/screenshots/0.4/ [02:08] Knelix, http://art.gnome.org/themes/gtk_engines/670 [02:08] Ahh!!!!!!! I'm sp cpnfused!!! Can anyone hold my hand and help me install java? [02:08] linuxjeff, check via packages.ubuntu.com [02:08] It was a google summer of code fedora project that works fine on ubuntu. === evian [n=dude@d149-67-55-168.col.wideopenwest.com] has joined #ubuntu === sorush20 [n=sorush20@82-43-184-143.cable.ubr07.newm.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #ubuntu [] [02:08] trigg: Well, actually, as goofy as it sounds, Ultima Online. [02:08] Knelix, xfce has an included gtk theme engine and some very nice themes [02:08] trigg: But for now, I am just trying to get Wine configured correctly. [02:08] i hated fedora [02:09] chavo, i gave him a good link its the gnome-xfce-engine or w/e [02:09] crimsun: The theme I refer to came with XFCE... i didn't download it independently... I just installed XFCE via the apt-get command, and haven't installed anything else. [02:09] zack_, word [02:09] tylo: games and wine are tough - they usually require directx which wine doesn't implement well. [02:09] hohoho linuxjeff, you funny fella! But, Mac OSX is a fork of DarwinBSD, which is a fork of 386BSD. Like the EVIL EMPIRE M$, they steal the code, lock the user to THEIR agenda, and charge more... [02:09] Knelix, that's correct, that's how we packaged it. [02:09] crimsun: It is not, but It is really easy to get working on ubuntu from src. How can I package it to get put in universe? [02:09] nixiac, be glad it's unix. [02:09] tylo: are you using the wine from ubuntu? or from winehq? [02:09] does anyone know of a repository that has java in it? [02:09] Or is it too late for it to be added to universe? [02:09] linuxjeff, see wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU [02:09] trigg: Let me check on that. [02:10] does it matter where I install the google api for beagle? [02:10] linuxjeff, follow the appropriate link(s) [02:10] chavo, crimsun: Then, the themes included are Gnome compatible as well> [02:10] ? [02:10] pybackpack == HIG-ified rsync / rdiff-backup gui for backups [02:10] i hate windows, redhat , fedora and ATI drivers === SteveLab [n=steve@71.192.48.176] has joined #ubuntu [02:10] dont hate :) [02:10] zack_, we have alot in common :P [02:10] Knelix, of course === todd_ [n=todd@12.150.129.171] has joined #ubuntu [02:10] trigg: I followed this guide to apt-get it from source forge. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56892 [02:10] Fedora is the reason I switched to Knoppix, then Debian, now, Ubuntu! Sooooo glad I 'found' POSIX copmliant Nix! [02:10] how do I run X apps as root when im logged into X as a user? [02:10] tylo: hi again, I rebooted. now I can't play any sounds. [02:10] chavo: goody! :-) [02:10] linuxjeff, I'll go ahead and mention that most of us are very strapped for time, so although it's _possible_ to be in Breezy, it's fairly unlikely it'll make it in. [02:11] nixiac, please join #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to troll here. [02:11] just go to theme manager and hit the Theme Details button, then you can change the gtk theme seperately [02:11] tylo: hold on a sec . . . === jbroome [n=jbroome@63-168-10-93.celito.net] has left #ubuntu [] [02:11] crimsun: Can things be included in universe after the release? [02:11] crimsun [02:11] And when is the official release? [02:11] im gunna switch to kde! [02:11] If making a dsc is easy, I will do it [02:11] tylo: but I wonder, I don't see anything in the ps aux, when I grep for esd or alsa, I'm wondering shouldn't I have something like that running as a sound demon? [02:11] linuxjeff: oct. 13th [02:11] linuxjeff, once a release is made, universe is frozen for that release. [02:11] zack_, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktopp [02:11] oops [02:11] crimsun: have any experience with wine? [02:12] crimsun, no boot file name received [02:12] doom the movie is coming out! [02:12] kubuntu-desktop* [02:12] zack_, ewi [02:12] followed the PXE install step by step [02:12] tylo: did you check out this website? http://frankscorner.org/ [02:12] die folks die! [02:12] lol [02:12] kde > gnome for life [02:12] epiloc, is the machine getting the appropriate DHCP lease? [02:12] crimsun: do you have any decent debian packaging tutorials? And if I made a deb within a week, do you think it would make it into universe if it was good? [02:12] trigg: Yeah. They don't have any details about the Windows Installer. [02:12] linner, a little [02:12] I have made dozens of rpm packages [02:12] perhaps my /etc/asound.cond needs advanced tweaking? I'm on a laptop, but I have no idea what to do [02:12] crimsun yes, its picking up an IP [02:13] evian: I think it is your asound.cond that is causing it. [02:13] tylo is having some problems with wine... and we've gone through the forums and google and for some reason it still isn't working properly [02:13] linuxjeff, wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources . I doubt it will make it in in that timeframe due to our review process. [02:13] nixiac: /dev/hdb /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0 [02:13] hmmm even reinstalling it wont detect network hardware [02:13] I meant asound.conf [02:13] Touchy feely today, about somthing? Here to learn, help if I can, and I get slammed? [02:13] crimsun: thanks [02:13] tylo: can you explain exactly the error messages you're getting to crimsun ? [02:13] im having problems with ati drivers! [02:13] but im working on it... i hope ati rotts in hell [02:13] how do I run X apps as root when im logged into X as a user? [02:13] sure. === tambaqui [n=patricia@200-230-128-226-mns.cpe.vivax.com.br] has joined #ubuntu [02:14] evian: Right, me too. [02:14] tylo, "Windows Installer?" are you trying to get the .Net components to work? [02:14] anyone els have nvidia driver problems ie them not working in breezy? [02:14] ColonelKernel: open a root terminal and type: sudo programname? === barosl [n=barosl@61.77.213.201] has joined #ubuntu [02:14] liz4rd [02:14] epiloc, paste onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl the section that you added to the dhcpd conffile [02:14] is all ur kernal modules updated? [02:14] ColonelKernel: or if you dont want to keep the terminal open, sudo programname & === linner is away: I'm painting... be back in a little while [02:14] qt2 Error: could not open display [02:14] Unable to start video emulation [02:14] trigg: I'm following this guide. For configuring wine with WineTools. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=149181&postcount=4 [02:15] qt2: why sudo if you're ina root terminal already? [02:15] Agrajag: err, because my groggy brain says so? :P [02:15] zack_, yeah [02:15] just today [02:15] should i reinstall them? [02:15] I am logged in as a user, I have X/Gnome all up, im in an xterminal and im logged in as root via su - [02:15] umm [02:15] ur fullly updated? [02:16] I need to be able to give root the ability to start apps [02:16] trigg: At the bottom of the post it tells an order in which things should be installed. [02:16] bah, dont use su. [02:16] ColonelKernel: bah, dont use su. === thiago [n=thiago@kde/thiago] has joined #ubuntu [02:16] epiloc, make sure your dhcp server is the only one on your network [02:16] dooglus: did anybody answer your question about a program to notify you when your harddisk is full?? same thing JUST happened to me [02:16] ubotu, rootsudo [02:16] somebody said rootsudo was at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo [02:16] ColonelKernel: ^^^ [02:16] tylo: you could always try the most recent version of winetools- http://www.von-thadden.de/Joachim/WineTools/ === ZBlach [n=z@HSE-London-ppp208756.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu [02:17] Anyone else? how do I give root the ability to run apps when logged in as root via su -? [02:17] zack_, yup [02:17] howdy. anyone here get wireless networking up in breezy? [02:17] synaptic said i was [02:17] can anyone recommend podcast software for ubuntu? [02:17] hello, I need a favour from someone with Breezy [02:17] ColonelKernel, your question was already answered twice [02:17] can someone run nm -D /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 | grep -c Xau ? [02:17] thiago, yeah? [02:17] just for downloading podcasts [02:17] ColonelKernel: err, read that link, and use sudo instaed of su -... [02:17] *instead [02:17] sudonim: streamtuner works well for me [02:17] qt2: I might not know programming as I am trying to llearn it, but, I been doing hardware since 1965. building, finin... and one thing I have found is that when we put a CDrom on the same IDE buss as a hard drive, they all slow down to the cdrom buss speed. AND, I have found other problemm, too. So you have CDROM0 installed as second device on first IDE? [02:17] cool. Thanks! [02:17] crimsun, pasted [02:17] tylo: on that last webpage it lists which versions of wine work with winetools [02:18] streamtuner, eh? === pgw [n=pgw_@smoothwallniigata.otani-shokai.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:18] cevizoglu, it has not been answered at all - "dont use su" and "use sudo" are not answers to my question. Sorry. [02:18] i am on a home lan with a linksys router === ZBlach [n=z@HSE-London-ppp208756.sympatico.ca] has left #ubuntu [] [02:18] nixiac: 2nd. :o [02:18] im assuming i need to shut down the dhcp on the router [02:18] anyone using scim on breezy? [02:18] thiago, the path differs, and the result is 0. [02:18] grndslm: Does streamtuner do podcasts too? [02:18] thiago, crimsun@garnish:~$ ls /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 | grep -c Xau [02:18] ==> 0 [02:18] trigg: Last webpage? [02:18] crimsun: thanks [02:18] ColonelKernel: When you dont cooperate with the people who are trying to help you for free... you get what you pay for [02:18] tylo: http://www.von-thadden.de/Joachim/WineTools/ [02:19] crimsun: what X is that? [02:19] !attitude [02:19] The people in #ubuntu are volunteers, your attitude determines their willingness to help you out. [02:19] thiago, "what X"? [02:19] trigg: Okay, I gotcha. Had to scroll down a bit. [02:19] crimsun: XFree86 or X.org? [02:19] sudonim: it just listens to shoutcast files and allows you to save the good stations...no server functionality. You'd have to look into shoutcast for something like that [02:19] thiago, X Window System Version 6.8.2 (Ubuntu 6.8.2-69 20050920093941 root@terranova.warthogs.hbd.com) [02:19] linuxjeff, Im sorry, I appreciate their effort to help, but their answer wasnt what I needed. [02:19] qt2: U mean cdrom is on second IDE, and hard drive(s) on primary IDE... cool. Then, I say that somthing is screwy with the permissions... [02:19] I need an answer to the actual question I asked. [02:19] Heh. Apparantly mine isn't displayed. [02:20] trigg: Aparantly my version of Wine isn't in that list. [02:20] im so pissed off... Why did they take java out of the hoary extras repository. Can anyone help me? [02:20] nixiac: inded. [02:20] ColonelKernel, your question was answered, you type the name of the program you want to run in the terminal [02:20] ColnelKernel: Open a normal terminal, then sudo commandname [02:20] Bartimaeus, why not just make your own deb of a JRE/JDK? [02:20] ColonelKernel: did you ever think that using su - might cause those errors? [02:20] cevizoglu, im sorry, but that doesnt work, as I posted. [02:20] tylo: ahh...figures. I think there was a link to download his recommended version. [02:20] ColnelKernel: If you are too lazy to use sudo, sudo -s will give you a root shell [02:20] qt2, doesnt cause them in other distros [02:20] ColonelKernel: and that using sudo instead might solve the errors you're getting? :o [02:20] msg/ crimsun I dont know how [02:21] crimsun: did you run what you pasted? [02:21] ColonelKernel: ubuntu isnt other distros. [02:21] crimsun: I mean, exactly === skrewdriver [n=skrewdri@203-217-37-175.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [02:21] thiago, no, I added the "==> " [02:21] qt2, not really, since im trying to run a program I just compile as root, in the /root directory. [02:21] ColonelKernel: the root account isn't disabled in other distros and ubuntu is not other distros. It is ubuntu [02:21] !code of conduct [02:21] NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, hyperactivecrond [02:21] crimsun: can you run "nm -D" instead of "ls", please? :-) === daniminas [n=daniel@r200-125-45-34-dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has left #ubuntu [] [02:21] ColonelKernel: the ubuntu devs have gone though painstaking measures to have you specifically NOT use root. [02:21] My root account isnt disabled. [02:21] ColonelKernel, so you're saying if you want to run gedit, and you type sudo gedit, nothing happens? [02:21] trigg: So that's what you suggest? [02:21] thiago, 2 [02:22] cevizoglu, that is correct [02:22] crimsun: hmm... interesting [02:22] ColonelKernel, do you have a gui running? [02:22] ColonelKernel: you broke sudo. :P === matthew [n=matthew_@ip70-176-180-97.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:22] crimsun: can you remove the -c (in grep) and tell me which those 2 lines are? [02:22] well, assuming you're running in x. :P [02:22] ColonelKernel: Paste /etc/sudoers at www.pastebin.com [02:22] qt2: When I ran KDE, and used KIIIB, every update would wipe out all my user preferences, and settings, and blow my mind, because the blockage wans't in the CDRECORD, nor, in the permissions in USERS/GROUPS, but, it was blocked in the settings file for the front end application... Can you work with that, and figure out where your settings are getting changed, and lock the file down? [02:22] tylo: probably easier than beating your head against the wall as it is now. . .I personally like CrossOver, but it isn't free. . . [02:22] ColonelKernel that should work, it does for me [02:22] cevizoglu, yes, I have Gnome up and running, this is when I open up a terminal , and log in as root. [02:22] [02:22] thiago, U XauDisposeAuth U XauGetBestAuthByAddr === matthew [n=matthew_@ip70-176-180-97.ph.ph.cox.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [02:23] crimsun: it's missing two symbols. Thanks. === Aragorn_Guardian [n=Aragorn_@201008066089.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu [02:23] ColonelKernel, have you tried NOT logging in as root and then using sudo? [02:23] trigg: Alright. Thanks for the help. === omp [n=david@66-215-19-141.dhcp.gldl.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu === Lous [n=linux@36.Red-83-52-210.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:23] can anyone help me install java [02:23] tylo, sorry I could be more. . . good luck [02:24] Bartimaeus, it's easy. Install the java-package from multiverse, download a JRE/JDK, and run java-package with it. [02:24] trigg: No problem. Thanks. [02:24] nixiac: i'm a nub, i wouldnt know what to do. :P [02:24] hi guys, i'm a newbie, trying to compile a driver but having problems with make. can anyone help? [02:24] now, can someone with another version of Ubuntu that is not Breezy run the same command? (nm -D /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 | grep -c Xau) [02:24] If i disable DHCP on my router, will any machines on the network lose their current leases? [02:24] epiloc, no [02:24] Ahh.. But I can't get the nice XFCE window borders in Gnome.... [02:24] epiloc: no, but when the leases expore, you are out of luck [02:24] trigg, linner: now it's working. Thanks! === niceguy [n=c_claire@203.115.184.38] has joined #ubuntu === calc [n=ccheney@ip70-185-4-246.ma.dl.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:24] cevizoglu, considering the program im trying to run is in its own subdir in the /root dir, and just got compiled as root, i figured I would just stick with the root login I was currently using [02:24] Bartimaeus, please do not message me. [02:24] ColonelKernel, that's what sudo -s is for [02:25] crimsun, plz help me [02:25] right [02:25] ok, time to try again [02:25] Bartimaeus, I just gave you instructions. [02:25] Bartimaeus, you're continuing to message me. Please stop that. [02:26] Ok, getting a new error === merriam [n=merriam@84.12.174.177] has joined #ubuntu [02:26] u stop to then [02:26] No DHCP or BOOTP offers received [02:26] Bartimaeus, it's much easier to address me in the channel [02:26] so why dont u do the same? [02:26] lgc - no problem [02:26] ColonelKernel: try some standard program, does that launch as root? [02:26] Bartimaeus, ...I am. [02:26] screw it, I wont use su anymore [02:26] thanks [02:27] then why is it showing up red === Psylo [n=Psylo@i-83-67-13-3.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu === ionrock [n=ionrock@pool-70-16-84-226.alt.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:27] isnt that what /msg does? === strega [n=strega@81-208-60-192.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #ubuntu [02:27] Bartimaeus, no. The red is nick-highlighting. [02:27] how do you do that [02:27] im sorry about the msging [02:27] you type their name [02:27] is that it? [02:27] I address you with your nick, prefaced at the beginning of the line. [02:27] Bartimaeus, is this line red? [02:28] crimsun, I am getting a new error now... making progress :) [02:28] yes [02:28] hi, im trying to intall vegastrike and ./configure says "error: *** Python version 2.2 or later not found!" but version 2.4 is installed what can i do? === SlicerDicer- [n=Slicer@mail.macceketh.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:28] oh, ok [02:28] Why was the decision made to not have a root account in ubuntu [02:28] Bartimus - and this line isn't red because of a typo :) [02:28] <_jason> does anyone know how to make the applet background transparent in gnome? === thiago [n=thiago@kde/thiago] has left #ubuntu [] === nyquist [n=Nyquist@80.97.189.182] has joined #ubuntu [02:28] epiloc, what error? [02:28] Bartimaeus, so you should use "Tab" to fill the name to avoid typos [02:29] so could you plz tell me how to get the java pacage from mutiverse, even tho ive been a complete a hole? [02:29] crimsun, "no dhcp or bootp offers received" [02:29] qt2: Try going over to the ubuntu (you ARE running a newly installed Hoary, right?), "System", >administration>Synaptic Package Manager and >search "k3b". [02:29] Bartimaeus, ie...bart spell your name [02:29] nixiac: i have k3b installed. === Blissex [i=pcg@82-69-39-138.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #Ubuntu === niceguy [n=c_claire@203.115.184.38] has joined #ubuntu [02:30] !tell Bartimaeus about java [02:30] Bartimaeus, enable the multiverse repository. Download a JRE/JDK from Sun/IBM/Blackdown. Run make-jpkg with the downloaded JRE/JDK as the argument. [02:30] is there a specific channel for breezy? [02:30] Fyawerx, no. === machado [n=relax@66.222.164.200.smart.net.br] has joined #ubuntu [02:30] qt2: Kewl, now go to K#B>Settings and do them again? === djjason [n=johann@c-67-189-189-62.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === gabaug [n=gabe@209-254-131-118.ip.mcleodusa.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:30] crimsun, cool, thanks === StoneTable [n=stone@c-24-14-85-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:30] hi all [02:30] figured i'd try a dist upgrade and see what happened ;) [02:31] im trying to intall vegastrike and ./configure says "error: *** Python version 2.2 or later not found!" but version 2.4 is installed what can i do? [02:31] Fyawerx, we pretty much field help for warty, hoary, and breezy at this point. [02:31] how can i update my 5.04 in 5.10? [02:31] crimsun: thanks [02:31] machado: yes [02:31] Psylo, you need python2.4-dev and python-dev [02:31] ubotu tell machado about upgrade2breezy === SlicerDicer- [n=Slicer@mail.macceketh.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:31] anybody update to breezy and lose their synaptic touchpad driver? [02:31] it fails to find my touchpad [02:32] btkx === D3vIN [n=spermie_@69-172-40-18.frdrmd.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:32] thread: it found mine [02:32] thread: It fails to find it or it doesn't load a driver for it? [02:32] fails to find it [02:32] the synaptic driver fails to load [02:32] thread: mine was a fresh install [02:32] thread: it is gone from lspci? [02:32] botu tell fyawerx about upgrade2breezy [02:32] Has anyone also had this problem. When I open up e.g. the "home" folder some of the content e.g. subfolders are partially hidden becuase the "go behind the left border/edge" of the window. I am viewing the files as icons, not as a list. Is this a known problem in gnome or? [02:33] can anyone help me setup my dhcp.conf? [02:33] nixiac: ehh? i'm not having problems with cd burning... i'm having problems getting a cd to mount automatically when i insert it in the cdrom drive o.O; [02:33] ubotu tell fyawerx about upgrade2breezy [02:33] !tell Fyawerx about upgrade2breezy [02:33] yep, got it, missed the u the first time :) [02:33] I don't see it in lspci, but I don't remember seeing it there before [02:33] So, my apt-get dist-upgrade made Hoary 5.04 into something with kernel 2.6.10-2-10-k7, so is I into some new area of Ubuntu, not Hoary??? [02:33] thread: Where did you see it then? [02:33] Fyawerx: "/msg ubotu upgrade2breezy" also works [02:33] qt2: do you have hald installed? [02:33] :) [02:33] crimson, worked! thx [02:34] cool, thanks === Penguin [i=penguin@penguin.thezooclan.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:34] linner, BlueEagle: tpconfig detects it perfectly [02:34] just... the x log says it can't find it [02:34] nixiac, "2.6.10-2-10-k7"? [02:34] the x driver isn't working somehow === Kaltzu [n=Kaltzu@addr-82-128-218-26.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:34] hello [02:34] thread: Which driver is it trying to load for it? [02:34] hi [02:34] synaptics_drv.o ? [02:35] just wanna say that ubuntu fecking rock my balls and that I'm happely using it for like 5 months now [02:35] let me rephrase: Which device is it using? [02:35] Penguin, word === sorush20 [n=sorush20@82-43-184-143.cable.ubr07.newm.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [02:35] word? [02:35] crimsun, is it a jre/jdk package in the multiverse repository? [02:35] BlueEagle: /dev/psaux [02:35] I screwed up the kernel numbers... crimsun... in a sec. but, gotta figure out that qt2 has noauto in his fstab, but I lost that line and gotta find it... [02:35] Bartimaeus, no. [02:35] Penguin, lol i was agreeing with you [02:35] ah ok ^^ [02:36] crimsun, oh, how do iget it then? [02:36] thread: ...and is that the correct device? (ie. the same device as it used before) === Ninjew [n=ceaser@138.28.153.100] has joined #ubuntu [02:36] Bartimaeus, you use a Web browser and navigate to Sun's or IBM's Web site and download one [02:36] BlueEagle: Yes. same as my old xorg.conf [02:36] crimsun, its just called a jre/jdk? [02:36] Bartimaeus: http://www.java.com/en/ [02:36] thread: cat /dev/psaux and use your touchpad. If you get lots of characters then it's the right device. If not you might want to look for another device that produces output. [02:37] BlueEagle: it is the right device [02:37] trigg: i do... i think o.O; [02:37] it's just not being detected as a synaptic touchpad [02:37] trigg, isnt it apt-get jre and jsdk or w.e === strega [n=strega@81-208-60-192.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #ubuntu [02:37] thread: Well, you said that it loaded a driver fine, right? [02:37] trigg, dont know the full package names [02:37] no [02:37] thread: ie tpconfig found it. [02:37] BlueEagle: that's the driver it should be using [02:37] trigg, is it just the main file you download? [02:37] liz4rd: you can install the jre in breezy, but is an older version. [02:38] tpconfig doesn't have anything to do with xorg's synaptic_drv.o driver, does it?? [02:38] oh [02:38] trigg, i am using hoary [02:38] didnt know that [02:38] Bartimaeus: yep. === z|bandito [n=z|bandit@cpe-66-8-245-189.hawaii.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:38] i wish we where as current as gentoo users [02:38] :P [02:38] trigg, so what do i do with the file now? [02:38] liz4rd: the hoary-backports have the most recent version [02:38] BlueEagle: ldd tpconfig reveals that it doesn't have jack to do with x [02:38] oh [02:38] I want to be able to make a number of webpages into one document, eg, pdf, I'm trying to do this manually copying and pasting every page into the same document, then there is a problem, I want the links in the html to be directed to with in the document rather than to the browser, is there there an automatic way of doing this.. === machado [n=relax@66.222.164.200.smart.net.br] has left #ubuntu [] [02:38] liz4rd: Why? Which features are you missing? [02:38] Bartimaeus: make-jpkg file [02:39] well xfce4-4.2.2 i dont get all the toys and such just base [02:39] do i substitute something with file? [02:39] qt2: I lost your fstab line... looking and cannot find what you posted... but, is there 'noauto' in there? [02:39] thread: Well, if you can make it work in console you should be able to make it work in X. Now, since tpconfig detects that it is a device it probably is so. The best guess I've got is that it's been moved in the /dev tree. [02:39] Bartimaeus: you have the tar.gz file, right? === niceguy [n=guest@203.115.184.38] has joined #ubuntu [02:39] trigg, no the bin [02:40] thread: If you've already tried other possible devices there please tell me now. If not please tell me that you don't appreciate my attempts to help you. [02:40] trigg, is that bad? [02:40] trigg, can I ask you some more? [02:40] Bartimaeus: no that's fine, use the bin file [02:40] jees. [02:40] lgc: go ahead [02:40] hmm, well, think im all upgraded [02:40] crimsun: can you help me set up a basic dhcp server? [02:40] im looking through the dhcp.conf file === shawnz [n=shawnz@Quebec-HSE-ppp3619635.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu [02:41] trigg, it gave me "bash: make-jpkg: command not found [02:41] BlueEagle: I've tried /dev/input/mice .... cat /dev/psaux does produce output when I move my touchpad [02:41] BlueEagle: there just seems to be something wrong with x's ability to properly identify my touchpad [02:41] Synaptics Touchpad no synaptics event device found (checked 2 nodes) [02:41] (EE) Synaptics Touchpad no synaptics touchpad detected and no repeater device [02:41] (EE) Synaptics Touchpad Unable to query/initialize Synaptics hardware. [02:41] qt2: Didja see auto or noauto, in your fstab for the /media/cdrom0 ? [02:41] Bartimaeus: apt-get install java-package [02:41] I got a beagle setup problem can someone tell me what this means? http://pastebin.com/376366 [02:41] trigg, why is it that, during the install I saw gcc and g++ flash before my eyes (which means they were being installed) but they are nowhere to be found! [02:41] trigg, ok [02:41] thread: Well, try using a generic driver for it in xorg.conf === vcg3rd [n=vcg3rd@dialup-4.153.35.140.Dial1.Atlanta1.Level3.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:42] nixiac: noauto. [02:42] lgc: not sure - try installing build-essential [02:42] BlueEagle: what you mean? my touchpad is working right now... I want to use the synaptics driver [02:42] nixiac: let me guess, that's the problem? :P === zxsykco [n=zxsykco@adsl-68-75-170-223.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:42] hi all [02:42] nixiac: /dev/hdb /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0 [02:42] nixiac: to be precise [02:42] trigg, apt-get install build-essential? [02:42] epiloc, apt-get install dhcp3-server [02:43] lgc: yep, should work [02:43] thread: I see. This is a kernel driver, right? [02:44] what a support in here, and I was amezed by the forum, this is really a dream or what ^^ [02:44] BlueEagle: the synaptics_drv.o of which I speak came with x, and resides in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input [02:44] crimsun: done [02:44] thread, did it work under Hoary? [02:44] Wierd bootloader issue. Installed 5.04 on hdb1. It recognized Mepis on hdb3 as Debian 3.1 when installing Grub. Yet when I finish the install it list hdb3 as memtest in menu and if I click it it actually starts a memtest, but Mepis is still there on hdb3 [02:44] crimsun: yes it did [02:44] Crimsun: My kernel seems to have updated to 2.6.10-2-k7, this is good? and, it is HOARY? [02:44] epiloc, now modify the conffile === linner is back (gone 01:00:12) [02:45] trigg: may I pm you? [02:45] nixiac, no. [02:45] trigg, it's ticking...done! g++ works already. But what's the magic? What packages were built? [02:45] crimsun: yes, this is the confusing part [02:45] nixiac, Hoary has 2.6.10-5-k7 === cr4x0r [n=daniel@pool-71-97-43-104.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:45] qt2, ever used VI to edit a file? [02:45] nixiac: nope, i've only used nano... === niceguy [n=guest@203.115.184.38] has joined #ubuntu [02:45] epiloc, what's confusing? [02:45] linner, sure, lgc, what packages are you trying to build? [02:45] crimsun: want me to paste what i have in the dhcpd.conf so far? [02:45] trigg, im sorry, but what do i do when ive done that? make-jpkg file? [02:46] epiloc, I thought you already pasted it [02:46] i have a question...when ubuntu 5.10 is released is there a way to apt-get upgrade to the new system or is it better to use the cd? [02:46] crimsun: yes, but it did not work === sorush20 [n=sorush20@82-43-184-143.cable.ubr07.newm.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #ubuntu [] [02:46] I'm so stumped on this. I upgraded to breezy earlier today, and I've been bangin my head about this touchpad issue for hours [02:46] crimsun: i need to establish the subnet, range etc... [02:46] cr4x0r, using apt-get/aptitude/synaptic will do the same thing installing from a CD will [02:46] Bartimaeus: you should have a new .deb file === sorush20 [n=sorush20@82-43-184-143.cable.ubr07.newm.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu === quidam- [n=quidam@200.90.84.3] has joined #ubuntu [02:46] I do not know nano, but, use what ever is cool for lyou, to edit your etc/fstab and change to 'auto'... [02:46] trigg, where? [02:46] crimsun: not sure exactly how to do this but slowly hacking away at it === quidam- [n=quidam@200.90.84.3] has left #ubuntu ["Abandonando"] [02:46] Bartimaeus: in the directory that you are in. [02:46] trigg, I got g** working, thanks, but I don't know what does "build-essential" comprise. [02:46] how do I restart my hotplug system just the printing part not any other part === njan [n=james@80-192-5-229.cable.ubr02.glen.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [02:47] trigg, and do i replace file with anything? [02:47] crimsun: i just have to change the repositories? === tcwd [n=Uk@MTL-HSE-ppp170573.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu [02:47] epiloc, what you pasted at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2597 is sufficient [02:47] cr4x0r, if you're running warty or hoary now, yes. === D3vIN is now known as Spermite [02:47] lgc: it's a meta-package - not sure what all it contains [02:47] crimsun: ok, thank you [02:47] tylo and crimsun: I went into the volume control and unmuted the microphone, now I can hear everything I speak echoed to me (with no app like skype even running.) And I can hear beeps in the terminal. [02:48] trigg, hmmm... [02:48] Bartimaeus: sud dpkg -i jre_1.5.deb (or whatever it is called) [02:48] if I pull out the headset I get feedback === njan is now known as james [02:48] qt2: BEFORE we edit a file, especially the FSTAB, we do a back up of it, so we can repair back to a bootable stage... I once accidently removed the first letter of the first sentence, and got lost in confused swampiness... [02:48] ok === locomorto [n=locomort@unaffiliated/locomorto] has joined #ubuntu === dennis999 [n=dennis@dialup-4.235.194.122.Dial1.Orlando1.Level3.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:48] lgc: apt-cache showpkg build-essential [02:48] evian, so mute the mic. [02:48] nixiac: i know about backing up... === os2mac [n=knoppix@ip68-10-71-214.hr.hr.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:49] trigg, let me see... === sorush20 [n=sorush20@82-43-184-143.cable.ubr07.newm.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #ubuntu [] [02:49] crimsun, that doesn't stop it [02:49] qt2: you ain't no nub... or, you slept in a Residence Inn last nite... === PlanarPlatypus [n=alucard@cpc3-cove3-5-1-cust39.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:50] nixiac: i know the basics. : [02:50] :P [02:50] Bartimaeus: that should have been sudo, not sud ;) [02:50] evian, paste output from the following onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl: cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer [02:50] qt2: I once know trhe basics, but, amd aging and seem to have misplaced them... [02:50] trigg, it seems to be just C-related stuff. [02:50] The window menu icon for panel is too small.. it doesn't scale up like the rest of the icons... [02:50] trigg, ya, i figured [02:50] nixiac: heh. [02:50] crimsun: ok but give me a minute.. [02:51] trigg, are you running Breezy? === [1] codenut [n=codenut@chtw11-84.pei.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu [02:51] trigg, it gives me"dpkg: error processing jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.deb (--install): [02:51] cannot access archive: No such file or directory [02:51] Errors were encountered while processing: [02:51] jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.deb [02:51] " [02:51] lgc: look at the reverse dependcies . . . and yes, running Breezy [02:51] crimsun: what must i do to start the dhcp server? my machine still isnt grabbing an IP === packman_e [n=packman_@i-83-67-28-242.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:51] hello all [02:51] hey guys, now I have a question... I've tried installing the NDISwrapper for my (don't pull your hair out now) broadcom wlan for my Compaq V2000Z. I've been following the instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper and am stuck at line 5. I don't see the wlan0 in my Sys -> Admin -> Networking spot. [02:52] trigg, did you have any problem updating? === os2mac waves [02:52] Bartimaeus: any other errors? [02:52] where do i go from here? [02:52] no [02:52] epiloc, it's started when you install it. You need to restart it to apply your modifications. [02:52] lgc: I did initially, but then after the Preview version came out, it worked fine. [02:52] epiloc, you _are_ running the dhcp server on another machine, correct? [02:52] what is the name for the next ubuntu? [02:52] i am running it on this machine [02:52] trigg, none [02:52] Linner I don't think it will work... === tatarholding [n=yalnizyi@201.133.224.14] has joined #ubuntu [02:52] I tried all last night. [02:52] linner: you made progress! an hour ago you were stuck at line 4! Been there, done that, but, you did it quicker! [02:52] os2mac: you did???? [02:52] epiloc, "this" machine being the one you want to install Ubuntu on, or...? [02:53] Bartimaeus: are you running Breezy? [02:53] nixiac: *smile* woo hoo! [02:53] no, hoary [02:53] hey guys i don't suppose that anyone knows if the repositories in the ubuntuguide is changed or down because i get errors when i try to update them. any ideas please? [02:53] os2mac: what was your problem? [02:53] Bartimaeus, hmm, do you have the hoary-backports in your repository list? [02:53] crimsun: do you know anything about synaptic? why might it not work if tpconfig recognizes my synaptic tp just fine? === tatarholding [n=yalnizyi@201.133.224.14] has left #ubuntu [] [02:53] crimsun: no... 'this' machine as in the one i am talking to you on right now... i am running ubuntu on it already [02:53] nixiac: did you get it installed? [02:53] is there an "America's Army" ubuntu package? [02:53] well I tried to use the appget functions to install NDISwrapper but it only installed the user tools [02:53] packman_e, if it's down, try using a different mirror [02:53] trigg, what are those? [02:53] crimsun: ok I pasted it [02:53] it didn't install the kernel portion. [02:54] so I could load the driver .inf file but I couldn't use it. [02:54] os2mac: I think I'm okay on that part. I'm not sure if it installed the kernel part. I'm not experienced enough to know how to find out. [02:54] trigg, I ask you that because I first tried to update from Hoary with catastrophic results, and then I tried to install from scratch, with just about the same outcome. I never got past the libgnome-common installation. [02:54] cevizoglu, how do i go about that and where do i find them. i am just following the guide === benkong2 [n=benjamin@cpe-065-190-203-070.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:54] did you try to install the .inf file from the command prompt. [02:54] !tell packman_e about repositories [02:54] os2mac: It just dawned on me ... you have the same wlan on a mac??? [02:55] os2mac: yes... and it took it just fine I thought.. per nalioth [02:55] Bartimaeus: check out this web page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports [02:55] no.... === niceguy [n=guest@203.115.184.38] has joined #ubuntu [02:55] qt2: Funny, I got the DVD from Linux Magazine Issue 53, March 2005, and it had these checkboxes on the install starting script! When I checked the LAN one, up ca\me a chooice of two forms of networking, and one was NDIS..... and I picked the Other choice! [02:55] packman_e, what, you mean ubuntuguide? [02:55] I am not ON a mac I AM a mac. [02:55] trigg, ok [02:55] yep [02:55] lgc: the most recent install cd for Breezy seems to work well. [02:55] evian, do you have an ~/.asoundrc or /etc/asound.conf ? [02:55] nixiac: where can i get that magazine???? [02:56] packman_e, it's best not to use ubuntuguide, I hear [02:56] nixiac: maybe that's what i need [02:56] just installed ubuntu 5.04 and going throught the guide [02:56] why? [02:56] trigg, I got it last Friday. Did the ISO image change already? === fmasi [n=fmasi@201.29.201.98] has joined #ubuntu [02:56] woopie beagle is working...now to just get the indexing completed. Thanks all [02:56] I was able to install the bcmwl5.inf file as well . === omp [n=david@66-215-19-141.dhcp.gldl.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:56] crimsun, yeah I have an /etc/asound.conf as specified by http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063&pp=10&highlight=Failed+construct+test+pipeline [02:56] !tell packman_e about ubuntuguide [02:56] lgc: there are nightly builds [02:56] but when I went to assign it to the card I couldn't figure out what the lspcid for the card was. [02:56] lgc, I don't think so - but I was able to install from it just fine. maybe you got a corrupted iso. . . [02:56] thread, in /proc/bus/input/devices, do you see "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad" or "AlpsPS/2 ALPS Touchpad"? [02:56] nixiac: heh. [02:57] !tell packman_e about ubuntuguide [02:57] lgc, I have heard of it happening [02:57] evian, kill it === linuxn00b [n=klajdsfk@63-135-238-112.customers.tbdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:57] oops [02:57] then paste the output from amixer [02:57] good bye all and thanks for your help [02:57] guys i need help on running the live version of ubuntu [02:57] I get mine at Border's books, but, this is Sept, and that was ISsue for March! But, might be on Amazon.com, and They sell back issues! here is the URL: http://www.linux-magazine.com [02:57] lgc, Bartimaeus - okay, all, gotta go - must make dinner later [02:57] trigg, no. The checksum was right, and I verified it yesterday. [02:57] crimsun: N: Name="SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad" [02:57] i keep getting an error trying to load x === trigg shrugs === Rotund [n=joe@d23-102.rb.lax.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:57] trigg, thanks and till next time. [02:58] lgc: later [02:58] it says "could not be detected!" and "no screens found" [02:58] nixiac: then if you got it set up.... can you help me??? *wink wink wink* [02:58] :) [02:58] crimsun, ok I removed it, now what? reboot? === henriquemaia [n=henrique@cb-217-129-172-176.netvisao.pt] has joined #ubuntu === neotrophy [n=neotroph@220-253-96-242.TAS.netspace.net.au] has left #ubuntu ["Kopete] [02:58] !faq [02:58] somebody said faq was The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/ [02:58] linner, are you running Breezy? [02:58] yeah can you HELP US?/ [02:58] lgc: yes [02:58] lgc: on a laptop === cr4x0r [n=daniel@pool-71-97-43-104.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:59] linner, did you have trouble with libgnome-common? [02:59] Linner: The base install, plus the Desktop and Fileserver options, seemed to do all the work! [02:59] lgc: no the onlyproblems i had was with my ati card... but we got that fixed [02:59] evian, no, just paste the output from amixer === chris_ [n=chris@adsl-215-224-156.aep.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:00] is there any way for me to install ubuntu and edit the x config file so it'll run my video card? [03:00] nixiac: I didnt' see anything about desktop and fileserver options in here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper [03:00] qt2: the Linux - Magazine has three issue subs, starting at any recent issue, it appears! Or, you can order any archiveed issue, if still in stock.... [03:00] crimsun, ok it might be working... at least beep media player started working [03:00] linner, hmmm. I thought mine was a more popular problem with Breezy. [03:00] crimsun, let me try skype now [03:00] lgc: it might be... you're talking still about the touch pad right? [03:01] thread, lsmod|grep ^evdev [03:01] crimsun: built into the kernel [03:01] is there any way to make emacs accept pastes from other apps? [03:01] i need help with my /etc/apt/sources.list in hoary, can anyone tell me what its supposed to look like? [03:01] I copied something in Firefox and I want to paste it into emacs, but it won't work :/ [03:01] lgc: i was on the phone for a while and wasn't paying much attention to the channel until a few minutes ago [03:01] Both Debian, and Ubuntu, that I have installed this past week, about four times each, have an apparently identical install process! [03:01] (total f'n newbie [03:01] linner, no. I never had trouble with it. [03:01] nixiac: that's not a coincidence :) [03:01] lgc: i'm sorry then... what were you referring to? [03:01] nixiac: Ubuntu is based off of Debian === brownie17 [n=fraser@static-203-87-6-82.vic.chariot.net.au] has joined #ubuntu === _dave [n=dave@host86-130-36-111.range86-130.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:02] thread, err, self-compiled kernel? [03:02] crimsun: yes [03:02] linner, I was saying that I couldn't install Breezy because I never got past libgnome-common [03:02] thread, boot into 2.6.12-9.18 and try again [03:02] Well, the OTHER 295 distros that are Debian based have all kinds of installers, some thatseem weird! [03:02] Starting DHCP server: dhcpd3 failed to start - check syslog for diagnostics. [03:02] lgc: ok... i'm sorry i misunderstood... yeah which version of breezy do you have? [03:02] crimsun: I tried that [03:03] crimsun: I will do it again, however... brb === lakin [n=lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:03] lgc: i tried the amd64 because I have a turion64 chip... won't fly at all... then i downloaded the i386 version. === niceguy [n=guest@203.115.184.38] has joined #ubuntu [03:03] thread, is Load "synaptic" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf? [03:03] nixiac, why change the debian installer when it already works? [03:03] thread, sorry, Load "synaptics" [03:03] linner, 5.10 for i386 [03:03] lgc: absolutely no problems minus the ati driver which we fixed with the VESA driver [03:03] lgc: yeah that's what i'm using [03:03] lgc: what laptop do you have? [03:03] I do know that I am very impressed, having come down the LONG & WINDING ROAD rom some of those, to UBUNTU! [03:04] linner, I have a Dell Inspiron 6000. === sapetius [i=sapetius@roi-9ad.cable.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu === Earthen [n=Earthen@dpc674668219.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:04] lgc: have you been here: http://www.linux-laptop.net/ [03:04] linner, no. What's there to see? [03:04] nixiac: you too :) [03:04] lgc: here's another one specific for your laptop: http://clydefrog.plus.com/~rob/inspiron6000.php === Fitzsimmons [n=justin@unaffiliated/fitzsimmons] has joined #ubuntu [03:05] /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_clip.0": No symbols found any ideas how i fix this === B_166-ER-X [n=oli@c207.134.21-163.clta.globetrotter.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:05] crimsun, it isn't working in skype yet, but maybe it is close. but unfortunately it is time for me to have my weekly skype chat with my sister, so I will have to reboot into windows for that. Thanks for your help, maybe I'll catch you later. [03:05] if I install from the preview release will it just come up to date with the stable release via apt when stable uh... goes stable? [03:05] linner, I'm looking at it. Interesting... === analfabeta [n=eve@200199059234.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu [03:05] lgc: yeah there are several entries for your model === D1 [n=damian@pool-71-104-105-237.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:06] linner: I thought that the VESA driver is the OLDER video standard, and actully, if I want really good resolution, etc. from a Linux listed peice of video hardware, then, I should use the driver for that piece of listed hardware... such as an Nvidia card driver, instead of the VESA driver, but, mayhap some Xpert can chime in? === analfabeta [n=eve@200199059234.user.veloxzone.com.br] has left #ubuntu ["Fui] === karljp [n=karl@dsl-33.ln.netheimur.is] has joined #ubuntu [03:06] Fitzsimmons: yes [03:07] how do i instal ooo 1.9.130 ?? in the reps i found only 1.9.73 === dave [n=dave@host86-130-36-111.range86-130.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:07] nixiac: I have a very, very new laptop and my particular card.. the ati 200m, can't run anything including a radeon driver... it has to use the VESA [03:07] crimsun: Linux thread 2.6.12-9-386 #1 Mon Sep 26 23:17:39 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux [03:07] fmasi, very carefully === Hydrogen [n=hydrogen@londonderry-cuda2-68-170-154-64.lndnnh.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:08] nixiac: it's not perfect... such as I can't standby or hibernate with out serious problems... but crap, as long as I can run linux instead of windows I'm a happy camper [03:08] do I need to do any special magic to get a xorg display on :2? [03:08] cevizoglu what do you mean by very carefully [03:08] bimberi: FreeBSD, Caldera, Storm Linux, and Red Hat 5.1, in 1997... when the Evil Empire strated to flunk out on us... and we started to gather together those 'curbside donations' and cast-offs... [03:08] nixiac: i just need my wireless card to work so that i can work remotely at my client sitesw [03:08] sites === haja [n=haja@cpe-66-65-193-85.ne.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:08] where is the syslog for DCHP3 ? [03:09] How can I install True Type Fonts in Ubuntu? [03:09] epiloc, /var/log/daemon.log [03:09] haja, enable multiverse and install msttcorefonts [03:09] thanks [03:09] thread, post your /var/log/Xorg.0.log [03:09] fmasi, hard to explain [03:09] nixiac: that's why I was asking for your help in getting it up and running [03:09] nixiac: :), that's a longer journey than mine - which started in about '99 - RH6 [03:09] crimsun: gladly [03:09] does anyone have a moto4lin deb? === Penguin [i=penguin@penguin.thezooclan.com] has joined #ubuntu === Hydrogen [n=hydrogen@londonderry-cuda2-68-170-154-64.lndnnh.adelphia.net] has left #ubuntu ["Konversation] [03:09] crimsun: http://quicken.ath.cx/Xorg.0.log === karljp [n=karl@dsl-33.ln.netheimur.is] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [03:10] cevizoglu, is ther enny whay to instal in like i normly instal the 1.9.73 ???? === bob832 [n=bob832@uc66224.uc.ysu.edu] has joined #ubuntu [03:10] nixiac: re: using the VESA driver, do you understand now why it works? [03:10] thread, you're using the wrong Synaptics driver [03:10] This has a nVidia M64, TNT2, RIVA, 32Mb ram, but, it IS a desktop cobbled together from salvage... Unfortunately, the 'nVidia card' is actually a version built by Pine (which might have been a garage start-up, in Taiwan... [03:11] crimsun: really?? [03:11] hello everyone . . . just installed ubuntu today and must say that i like it [03:11] crimsun: I thought there was only one [03:11] crimsun: any ideas why i cant restart my dhcp server? [03:11] bob832, yes, everyone always does [03:11] bob832: good to hear :) [03:11] read even :P [03:11] thread, dpkg -l xorg-driver-synaptics|grep ^ii [03:11] nixiac: right on... and because it's a desktop already it's an easier workaround :) [03:11] linner: yeah, been there. VESA is great for my servers, or, when I don't really know what it is, and the installer selects it forme... anything to get up! === jsubl2 [n=jsubl2@72.48.95.220] has joined #ubuntu [03:11] crimsun: ii xorg-driver-synaptics 0.14.3+revertedto+0.13.6-0ubuntu3 Synaptics TouchPad driver for X.Org server [03:11] nixiac: exactly dude! === linner will be right back... grabbin' a gin -n tonic [03:12] bob832: installed it a week ago, its great :) [03:12] fmasi, I'm not experienced enough to answer you on that one, so I won't give you bad advice [03:12] thread, and I presume you have Load "synaptics" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf? [03:12] Gads! I gotta drink O'Douls, (non-alcoholic- just turned diabetic...) [03:12] quick question though :) is it possible to change it so that the master volumn control up by the clock controls the PCM volumn? [03:12] thread, dpkg seems to be saying the right thing [03:13] cevizoglu , whith ooo do you have ? [03:13] cevizoglu, which what? [03:13] oops [03:13] bob832, right-click > Preferences [03:13] s/cevizoglu/fmasi [03:13] bob832: right-click on the control and select preferences [03:13] crimsun: in the Modules section? I didn't have to do that before [03:13] thread, just check if it's present [03:13] http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2599 << Any idea what is going wrong there? [03:13] bob832: What happened to the other 830? [03:13] linner, it seems this guy tweaked everything to get his lap working. I'm lucky in that almost everything seems to work, except for the "eject" key and the multimedia buttons. But I don't think he addresses this. There's someoneelse who does, though. [03:14] crimsun: no, I don't have a Load "synaptics" [03:14] thread, (it should be) === SuperLag [i=aaron@gentoo/developer/SuperLag] has joined #ubuntu [03:14] that simple huh? i thought i would be editing files and such [03:14] Any of you guys had issues just doing s/hoary/breezy in sources.list and upgrading that way? [03:14] cafuego: the number is the time when i first registered my irc nick :-) === dave [n=dave@host86-130-36-111.range86-130.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:14] fmasi, I recommend you find some info on how to create your own package from a source build, etc. === Fitzsimmons [n=justin@unaffiliated/fitzsimmons] has left #ubuntu [] [03:15] cevizoglu ok [03:15] crimsun: only the mouse device's section has Driver "synaptics" [03:15] fmasi, if you can't find a .deb which works [03:15] bbo830: Thursday 01 January, 1970 10:13:52? [03:15] thanks for the help, that did it [03:15] thread, hmm, that should suffice === SymGeosis [n=SymGeosi@mtairy-motorola1-68-71-230-109.chvlva.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:15] crimsun: what were you saying about a wrong driver? [03:15] lgc: yeah.... there are a LOT of other posts for your model... check 'em out... there's bound to be a solution [03:15] crimsun: there is only one synaptics driver [03:16] crimsun: and it's not detecting my touchpad === linner ahhh... refreshing... nothing like an ole GnT in the summer time :) === poningru_sleep is now known as poningru [03:16] linner, I hope so. But I still hope the issue gets solved once the official Breezy release is made. [03:16] i must say (not bashing here) but for the past several months i've been using fedora and i cannot believe how easy that was to change the volumn control [03:16] On my third session of "Law and Order on the cable, here, and have three other computers to look at, so gotta go and play with them,, also have 15 to assemble, trying to finish my Beowulf Cluster... then, rewire the house for lthe new power drain..." [03:17] thread, there's a separate, newer one that caused problems and was reverted. [03:17] linner, that is, if it is an issue, at all... [03:17] thread, hence the package version [03:17] I got a problem! I rebooted into windows (duel boot) just to get something (first time in weeks) and when i rebooted back into Ubuntu, now there is something using 100% of my CPU every 3-4 seconds for about a second! anyone have any idea's please [03:17] lgc: you're not the only one dude... I've got problems with my time clock, my wlan, and watching multimedia... so I'm lookin' for some serious resolution too [03:17] crimsun: right... the name of the package I have says 'reverted' as you say [03:17] lgc: if you have it, it's an issue [03:17] sweet!, dhcp finally workin! on to a new error :( [03:17] Earthen: run 'top' to see what it is. [03:17] cafuego, what is top [03:18] bob832: i'd love to be able to assure that all tweaks are that easy :) [03:18] Earthen: Something you should run. [03:18] (See man top) [03:18] linner, but only if many have the same problem does the problem get addressed... [03:18] #join mac [03:18] lgc: right now i see only one drawback to linux as opposed to windows... drivers.... that's it.......... the program subsitutions, imho, are superior to most of the win commercial ver.... and the stability without question is superior to all other OS's I've used [03:18] oops [03:18] lgc: No, only if a bug is filed. [03:18] i sure there are more diffcult ones but i'm surprised how easy that one was lol [03:18] On my third session of "Law and Order on the cable, here, and have three other computers to look at, so gotta go and play with them,, also have 15 to assemble, trying to finish my Beowulf Cluster... then, rewire the house for lthe new power drain..."ps" === othernoob [n=othernoo@p54A2F12F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu === TongMaster [n=TongMast@157.besecure.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [03:18] cafuego, man i'm running system monitor and it looks like a heart beat monitor === butcherbird [n=butcherb@nsc65.23.117-236.newsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:19] lgc: not necessarily... i understand developers visit this channel too and note problems that have yet to be resolved... [03:19] hey, try 'ps' besides "top" [03:19] cafuego: hello :) [03:19] linner: that and games [03:19] bob832: The aim of Ubuntu is to make Linux a decent desktop system, for end users. So if there *is* anything that's not easy, it should be addressed and *made* easy. [03:19] linner: there are a few good ones [03:19] i'm attempting to switch over to linux from windows and right now, i'm just trying out different "flavors" of linux [03:19] linner: morning [03:19] linner: but overall theres not a huge selection [03:19] cafuego: glad to hear it [03:19] bob832, use ubuntu :) [03:19] locomorto: i'm not a gamer :( [03:20] linner, that's right. But my Win-doze purrs like a kitty, and my Linux has frozen my lap a few tens of times... [03:20] linner: really? [03:20] linner: then love linux [03:20] so far, i'm really loving it [03:20] bob832: SO if you ome across something that ought be easy when it's not, file a bug on the package :-) === linner will be right back [03:20] bob832: do what I do [03:20] and i have only had it on my systme for a few hours [03:20] bob832: Burn the windows CDs and Box [03:20] cafuego, it says Xorg using about 17% thats it [03:20] lgc: do you mean windows makes your laptop too hot? lol [03:20] bob832, http://eedok.voidofmind.com/linux/chooser.html [03:20] cafuego_: is that what bug reports are there for these days? [03:20] cafuego, are you talking bugzilla? === nomasteryoda [n=nomaster@ip24-252-193-86.mc.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:20] bob832: Next month, when you can upgrade to breezy, you'll find a lot of additions that make life easier. [03:20] lgc: yep === niceguy [n=guest@203.115.184.38] has joined #ubuntu === pschulz01 [n=pschulz0@eth6067.sa.adsl.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:21] http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2599 << Any idea what is going wrong there? [03:21] cafuego_: i'm sure people will appreciate bug reports on how people are too dumb to use something.... [03:21] othernoob: Bugs can have a 'wishlist' status. If a developer isn't told what the user wants from their software, it will probably never get done, eh? === sagarp [n=sagar@SM-7-110.resnet.ucsb.edu] has joined #ubuntu [03:21] bob832: Most of lus who aren't programmers, and prolly a few of them too, did what you are doing... but, with 387 Different Open Source distros monitored by Distrowatch.com, I found that it wasthree years before I got HERE, to ubuntu. [03:22] cafuego_: that's what feedback is for, not bugreports.. [03:22] othernoob: There is a difference between users being too dumb and software being too convoluted. [03:22] when i use GDM, my scrollwheel/sidebuttons get confused...but when i do startx, the ywork fine...i tried with zaxismapping set to "4 5" and also with "6 7" and in GDM, they both dont work right [03:22] othernoob: No, that's what wishlist bugs are for. === donsmith [n=donsmith@ool-4353ca48.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:22] hyperactivecrond: went through the chooser, and ubtuntu came up first lol [03:22] shawnz: its looks like your using the Qt4 not Qt3 headers [03:22] thread, sounds like you've been bitten by http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15182 [03:22] quick question === haja [n=haja@cpe-66-65-193-85.ne.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:22] cafuego, any more idea's === zxsykco [n=zxsykco@adsl-68-75-170-223.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:22] bob832, it always does scroll down [03:22] cevizoglu, I haven't used my Win-doze that much. I only use it to watch the MediaPlayer...:) (On Linux I haven't been able. The Totem does't seem to work with anything).. [03:22] After installing msttcorefonts, how can I add my own fonts? Do I just put them in /usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts? [03:22] oh [03:22] cafuego_: either way, quite a way to tell a non-linux user what to do when he encounters problems.. [03:23] Earthen: Nothing showed? Is there a cd or dvd in your drive? [03:23] when I'm trying to update with synaptic it freezes on configuring packages, I think it's stuck on the x packages [03:23] ubtuntu is the second distro i've tried from the linux world [03:23] locomorto: yeah, I'm sorry I'm back... had a phone call [03:23] locomorto, so how do I get it to work right is the question? =p [03:23] cafuego_, no no cd's or dvd's [03:23] cafuego_: sudo fdisk -l? [03:23] lgc: you have to install a multitude of codecs until it works :( === malik [i=malik@213.95.21.30] has joined #ubuntu === TedytuF [n=apRendiZ@200.217.227.70] has joined #ubuntu [03:23] Greetings.. can anyone explain to me the best way of using a new version 'autoconf and friends under Ubuntu? [03:23] othernoob: No, that's not what it is about. The user can be helped here, but they can ALSO be told that if they'd like the software to work differnetly, they should tell the developer. [03:23] shawnz: get rid of the Qt4-dev files and ensure you have the Qt3-devs [03:23] ok === Jack_B [n=pauln@adsl-2-112.swiftdsl.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [03:23] After installing msttcorefonts, how can I add my own fonts? Do I just put them in /usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts? [03:24] mh. i need gthread-2.0. cant find the corresponding package. any hints? [03:24] cevizoglu, isn't there an easier way? [03:24] haja: mkdir ~/.fonts; the copy the .ttf files to there. [03:24] lgc: I understand about the freezing... it took a solid 7 days for me to get ubuntu on my laptop.... and really, I was working like 16 hours a day on it... so you have to be determined and realize the FIXES ARE OUT THERE... so keep pluggin' away if you really want it. [03:24] cafuego_, Xorg is going up and down from about 15% - 30% that about it === athlon [n=athlon@174pc.wohnheimg.uni-frankfurt.de] has joined #ubuntu [03:24] cada canal que abre, ta abrindo uma nova janela como conserto isso?? === stpere [n=stpere@ts1-110.f1231.ts.globetrotter.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:24] cafuego: i'm sure you suspected this... but my time is still off :( [03:24] haja: and run "xset fp rehash: to make the fonts available. [03:24] crimsun: nice! ... he explains a solution, I'm gonna follow it right now and let you know how it goes [03:24] linner: Did you do the crontab thing? [03:24] haja: stick them in ~/.fonts and it'll work for that one user. [03:24] lgc: it's not too hard, just a few searches and apt-gets [03:24] crimsun: TFTP error - file not found [03:24] cafuego: crontab??? === dave [n=dave@host86-130-36-111.range86-130.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:25] I'm looking am looking at writing some software and 'automake' is at version 1.4-p6. There is a version 1.9 available. [03:25] epiloc, that means you didn't configure the pxe files correctly === os2mac [n=Jim@ip68-10-71-214.hr.hr.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:25] when I'm trying to update breezy with synaptic it freezes on configuring packages, I think it's stuck on the x packages [03:25] cada canal que abre, ta abrindo uma nova janela como conserto isso?? [03:25] cafuego_ is there a way to make it update faster [03:25] linner, I love Linux already. The only other use for Win-doze I had is to write letters with Word (and that was before Open Office). [03:25] linner: Ok, remove ntp-simple. We'll add a call to 'ntpdate' in cron, so it runs every 30 minutes. [03:25] pschulz01, so aptitude install automake1.9 [03:25] lgc, mplayer works better for avi's though IMO [03:25] WHOOT wlann working [03:25] TedytuF, /join #ubuntu-es [03:25] OK.. done that.. [03:25] cafuego: oh thank you! [03:25] Earthen: top can only do once a second, afaik. [03:25] cevizoglu: vlc pwns mplayer [03:25] lgc: I'm so happy to hear that! [03:25] hyperactivecrond: that's not spanish, it's portuguese, I think :) [03:25] Why isnt Banshee available in hoary [03:26] so is there a way to save my config in Ubuntu like in Knoppix.... to a thumb drive [03:26] linner: After you remove ntp-simple, run 'sudo crontab -e' - that will open up root's crontab file. [03:26] thanks [03:26] lgc: I'm already installing Breezy on 4 other computers this week... It's an easy sell! [03:26] lgc: have you tried openoffice 2? === TedytuF [n=apRendiZ@200.217.227.70] has left #ubuntu ["aLine] [03:26] linner, sweet [03:26] linner, I come from the pre-linux era. [03:26] lgc: I find its really much much better then 1 [03:26] TedytuF, hablas inglais? [03:26] cafuego_ ok dam what is doing it then, making my computer pause every few seconds even when i'm typing it stops [03:26] cafuego: forgive me... I don't know how to remove ntp-simple [03:26] nomasteryoda: :) that's what I thought :) [03:26] locomorto, vlc won't install on my ubuntu breezy ppc.... [03:26] lgc: you do? [03:26] Earthen: I don't know. [03:26] locomorto, I haven't is the apt update available? [03:26] lgc: very, VERY cool :) [03:27] crimsun: I configured them exactly how the wiki told me to [03:27] linner, i have breezy on 4 systems too === DonL [n=don@d206-116-131-181.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:27] for me that is [03:27] linner: 'sudo apt-get remove --purge ntp-simple' (or use synaptic) [03:27] nomasteryoda: these are for other people [03:27] cafuego: ok [03:27] and have helped get friends up with it too [03:27] crimsun: I now need to set some environment variables for 'autoreconf', but I still get erros with aclocal macros. [03:27] cafuego_ this only happend after i boot into windows XP [03:27] does anyone know of a mpc plugin for amarok? [03:27] anyone.... [03:27] Earthen: Is there anything in 'dmesg' ? [03:27] one has brand new laptop with the snd-isa-intel sound driver issue... halts on booting [03:27] saving config? like on Knoppix? [03:27] epiloc, you can't follow the wiki _exactly_ [03:27] cafuego: ok it's done [03:27] on the Ubuntu Live [03:27] epiloc, a lot of things have changed [03:28] linner: Right, now 'sudo crontab -e' [03:28] ok [03:28] epiloc, that's why I said the basics on that wiki page are helpful, not the wiki page verbatim [03:28] crimsun: oh, well what needs to change? im so close... [03:28] cafuego: it's an empty file [03:28] got another question: trying to mount a ntfs partition and when i did sudo mkdir /media/windows , i got this error: sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Sep 27 12:44:33 2005 [03:28] i recently changed the time in the clock, could that have something to do with it/ [03:28] lgc: apt update? [03:28] linner: And type the following, minus the quotes: "*/30 * * * * /usr/sbin/ntpdate pool.ntp.org" [03:28] how should i go about converting wma's to mp3 on ubuntu ? [03:28] A simple apt-cache unmet has just shown me the pages of problems from my attempted Breezy update. [03:28] if developers could put the new alsa drivers or a workaround , many more people would be able to use Ubuntu .. [03:28] cafuego_ when i run that it says failed, port 3 disabled [03:28] cafuego: inside the empty file? === christian [n=guest@203.115.184.38] has joined #ubuntu [03:28] lgc: It wont come in if your on hoary by just apt-get upgrade [03:28] locomorto, I mean an update through apt-get install. [03:29] nomasteryoda, hmm? [03:29] linner: yep. === MrGardenHoseMan [n=hose@69.37.244.126] has joined #ubuntu [03:29] cafuego: done [03:29] crimsun, there is a bug report on the site [03:29] lgc: theres some in the hoary repos, but there very old [03:29] nomasteryoda, we _can't_ just shove in newer ALSA drivers. I've been banging my head against it for weeks. [03:29] hey guys, how should i go about converting wma to mp3 on hoary? [03:29] lol [03:29] yea [03:29] i know [03:29] cafuego: may i change the 30 minutes to 5 minutes? It seems to get VERY off after 30 minutes [03:29] linner did you get it working? [03:29] linner: That will make the crond aemin run the ntpdate command every x:00 and x:30 minutes. [03:30] linner: See how it runs first, then maybe try 15 or 10. [03:30] cafuego: ok [03:30] cafuego: will do === csthepoet [n=cynthia@adsl-149-76-246.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:30] os2mac: which one? [03:30] :) [03:30] nomasteryoda, I have to forwardport a change applied against 1.0.9b against our kernel, which is 1.0.9+cvs [03:30] wlan [03:30] cafuego_, then i get a hole lot of hub 5-4:1.0: connect-debounce failed, port 3 disabled [03:30] locomorto, it's about time OOo V2 is available through apt-get! [03:30] linner: Now run 'sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org' by hand. [03:30] ok [03:30] oh... ic [03:30] Earthen: Any weird usb devices plugged in? [03:30] crimsun: I understand... if you were starting off at that wiki, what would you do diferently? === caleb_ [n=caleb@70-242-35-106.abl.clearwire-dns.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [03:30] cafuego: done [03:31] linner: Cross yer fingers and wait an hour ;-) [03:31] hey anyone using uvuntu 5.10 === ScislaC [n=scislac@ip70-190-208-208.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:31] cafuego: I spoke with Nalioth. May I PM you? [03:31] cafuego: ok :) [03:31] cafuego: will do [03:31] hey room [03:31] linner: Yeah ok. [03:31] lgc: Hoary is frozen [03:31] Linner did you get your wlan working? [03:31] lgc: eg: no updates are made so it doesn't get instable [03:31] locomorto, what do you mean? No bugfixes? [03:31] unstable* === megamanx2005 [n=megamanx@68-188-60-173.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:31] cafuego_ I have a few USB things pluged in yes, mouse,joystick,Palm,sidewinder,and belcon speed pad [03:32] only security fixes generally [03:32] crimsun: that guy's solution worked like a charm. Thank you so much for finding that. I did a lot of surfing around the forums and such but didn't manage to fall upon that page. THANKS! [03:32] thread, np [03:32] bugfixes can create more bugs [03:32] cafuego_ none of witch gave me problems before [03:32] what new features is breezy badger going to have [03:32] epiloc, which set of images are you using? [03:32] Earthen: yeah, it would seem odd that they could slow down the machine. === Rex [n=rex@61.152.142.1] has joined #ubuntu [03:32] os2mac: I haven't gotten that far yet [03:32] There is a guide on the forum how to get newer version of OO2 [03:32] Earthen: Did you install updates (new kernel?) before booting windows? === ueeoeeIy [n=uaaoot@222.124.20.90] has joined #ubuntu === Hobbsee [n=sarah@CPE-144-136-127-247.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu === ueeoeeIy is now known as FiWuo === FiWuo [n=uaaoot@222.124.20.90] has left #ubuntu [] [03:33] I got mine working just now ( I am on it right now) I may have a couple of tips.... [03:33] os2mac: I didn't want to bombard the channel with too many of my problems since there are so may people in here who need help too. Immediately, I needed to get my system clock running as nearly everything I do is time dependant. [03:34] cafuego_ mmmm I'm not sure but i think that i may have did an update last night but i booted intolinux earler today and no problems === jerico [n=raffal@203.115.184.38] has joined #ubuntu [03:34] os2mac: oh dude.. do share ;) === JairunCaloth [n=trumpetp@71-14-42-161.dhcp.crtn.ga.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:34] crimsun, you've helped me lots of times before. My attempted upgrade to Breezy from Hoary was a disaster. Fortunately I have a spare drive and I installed Warty on it for now. Should I wait and every now and then apt-get update, and install, or wait for the real thing and just install? === mello6 [n=mellowyl@c-67-162-226-133.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:35] first of all you are using a broadcom wlan card right? [03:35] os2mac: absolutely [03:35] what .inf file? [03:35] let me go check [03:35] name and size please [03:35] hold on a sec os2mac [03:35] os2mac: size of what? [03:35] the .inf file [03:35] os2mac: ok [03:36] os2mac: hold on just a sec [03:36] the one I am using is bcmwl5.inf [03:36] DonL, hmm? You installed Warty? [03:36] and it's 17742 [03:36] os2mac: I'm using bcmwl5.inf [03:36] crimsun, on another spare drive. Actually, I forgot how simple and good it works [03:36] os2mac: and it's 1.2mb [03:37] os2mac: big difference [03:37] crimsun, it's the only actual ubuntu cd I have [03:37] cafuego_ I've seemed to have found it, I think it was 3ddesktop I killed it and it sems fine now, maybe something to do with my ATI drivers maybe [03:37] os2mac: where did you get your driver? [03:37] what is the data on the file? [03:37] DonL, you can dist-upgrade from Warty to Hoary at least === tonkar [n=tonkar@pc-30-233-207.san-damian4.pc.metropolis-inter.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:37] DonL, how was the dist-upgrade from Hoary to Breezy a disaster? [03:37] crimsun, that's what I did before. [03:38] crimsun, pages of unmet dependencies [03:38] I did a search on my harddrive for it. I am running the LIVE version of Ubuntu [03:38] No X [03:38] os2mac: you're going to have to be specific... i don't know how to obtain the data... do i justopen it with texteditor? [03:38] os2mac: ok.... that might make a difference [03:38] crimsun, I can see all my files but have no gui [03:38] os2mac: i have it INSTALLED === malik [i=malik@213.95.21.30] has left #ubuntu [] [03:39] what directory was it in? [03:39] hi all! have you any idea why after an upgrade my xserver is desconfigured? [03:39] tftpd file not found.... [03:39] im stuck [03:39] :( [03:39] crimsun, seems the biggest culprit is libfooc0depending on libmp4v2-0, not installed [03:40] and how to solve this problem? "no screen found" (an nvidia) === metzen [n=yep@cpe-69-205-213-56.stny.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:40] os2mac: in my home [03:40] Linner what I am looking for is the file info. [03:40] cafuego_ thanks for you help good night [03:40] the filesize and date of the bcmwl5.inf file that you loaded into ndiskwrapper. [03:40] os2mac: ok [03:40] maybe an dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86? [03:41] you should be able to get that by going to the directory that the file is located in and doing ls -al [03:41] ok [03:41] os2mac: let me get terminal up [03:42] I knew what the file name was when I attached it the first time... just didn't know which to pick... I have serveral versions of that file on my harddrive. [03:42] DonL, X Window System doesn't work? [03:42] os2mac: this is what terminal says: -rw-r--r-- 1 kelley kelley 1206158 2004-02-07 15:56 /home/kelley/Downloads/bcmwl5.inf === gpd [n=gpd@www.grahamdavies.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:43] I just chose one after another until it worked. [03:43] crimsun, maybe the suggested repositories I copied weren't complete. Maybe I'm missing something. Do you know of another set of repositories? No. I can't get X to work [03:43] i too [03:43] can I set up a dhcp server and tftp server to handle pxe boot requests... can i give the machine a windows boot image? [03:43] os2mac: see i don't know that this doesn't work... [03:43] me too :P [03:43] that is a much newer file than mine... [03:43] crimsun, xinit fails [03:43] os2mac: it's a beta file [03:43] that after an update [03:43] I am using an older version of the file. [03:43] os2mac: tell me where to get what you have? [03:44] -r-------- 1 root root 17742 2003-06-13 21:37 bcmwl5.inf [03:44] os2mac: i see [03:44] os2mac: so where can i down load it? [03:44] DonL, you shouldn't have to add any external repositories. What were you using that required external repos? [03:44] this is a compaq correct? [03:44] os2mac: yes [03:44] are you running the live version? [03:45] no... it's installed [03:45] of Ubuntu [03:45] ahhh [03:45] ubuntu yes [03:45] lemme see if I can find a spot on the internet to get that file [03:45] ok thank you so much === Rumrunner [n=Rumrunne@blk-137-122-17.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu === linner will be right back... need food :) [03:45] wich is the command to reconfigure my xserver? === astro76 [n=james@unaffiliated/astro76] has joined #ubuntu [03:46] does ubuntu support wpa2? [03:46] dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg === beau [n=beau@adsl-070-157-197-156.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu === hyperactivecrond [n=chris@ppp-69-215-235-154.dsl.bcvloh.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu === lord-x [n=info@62.162.237.148] has joined #ubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu [03:46] crimsun, instead of changing "hoary" to "breezy" I copied a suggested repository and dumped my old one. I've done that before without problems [03:46] how do you get rid of ubuntu-desktop and everything it provided when you install it? [03:46] installed~ [03:46] thanks ;) === eruin [n=eruin@129.80-202-105.nextgentel.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:48] does ubuntu support wpa2? === Amaranth [i=travis@unaffiliated/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu [03:48] http://nicolas.bonifas.free.fr/inspiron/bcmwl5.inf === law [n=law@astound-66-216-235-43.mn.astound.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:48] that is the same file size.... [03:48] try that one. === hyperactivecrond [n=chris@ppp-69-215-235-154.dsl.bcvloh.ameritech.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [03:49] Any of you guys had issues just doing s/hoary/breezy in sources.list and upgrading that way? === papangul [n=papangul@59.93.243.85] has joined #ubuntu === atty [n=lllll@219.93.48.113] has joined #ubuntu [03:49] SuperLag: I did [03:49] SuperLag, perhaps that works, my way (for me) didn't === Am|NickTaken [i=travis@ACABEEB7.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:50] Is there anyway in Ubuntu Live to save the settings to a thumb drive for bootup later [03:50] SuperLag: something about unterminated `s' command === papangul [n=papangul@59.93.243.85] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === law is now known as H3-ZeroCool === Am|NickTaken is now known as Amaranth [03:51] hi. i did open synaptic package manager and search for sun-j2re1.5 [03:51] hey all [03:51] having a prob with lilo+devmapper [03:51] Ubuntu Wiki [03:51] [03:51] fullsearch180 lilo Titles Text [03:51] [03:51] Cartel [03:51] [03:51] UserPreferences [03:51] [03:51] DonL, it's best to dist-upgrade with _only_ the Ubuntu repos [03:51] Help [03:51] [03:51] === nomasteryoda [n=nomaster@ip24-252-193-86.mc.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu === linuxjeff [n=none@12-222-183-136.client.insightBB.com] has left #ubuntu [] [03:51] [03:51] <_jason> !pastebin [03:51] methinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl [03:51] Ubuntu [03:51] during i mark it inform not authenticated? should i proceed or need to do anything? [03:51] crimsun, I've got a functioning Warty system happening now which will serve me well for a few weeks. Maybe I'll just wait and see if things fix themselves. [03:51] Community [03:51] Support [03:51] Partners [03:52] Wiki [03:52] Planet === mode/#ubuntu [+o crimsun] by ChanServ [03:52] [03:52] [03:52] KubuntuPackagingGuide [03:52] [03:52] RestrictedFormats [03:52] uh [03:52] === moparfan90 [n=moparfan@ool-457a66fa.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:52] WPAHowto [03:52] [03:52] ItalianEnab...deon(fglrx) [03:52] [03:52] RecentChanges [03:52] [03:52] FindPage [03:52] [03:52] Edit [03:52] [03:52] Show Changes [03:52] [03:52] Get Info [03:52] can u help me _jason? [03:52] [03:52] Subscribe === StR_breezy_kde35 [n=str@216.230.150.7] has joined #ubuntu [03:52] [03:52] [03:52] show [03:52] [03:52] [03:52] <_jason> atty: whats the problem? [03:52] crimsun, yes. I know that now. That's what I've been sticking to for many months. There were some other things hanging around in my system before I knew that though [03:52] Title Search: "lilo" [03:52] hi. i did open synaptic package manager and search for sun-j2re1.5 === mode/#ubuntu [+b %*!*@shinobi.thoughtcrime.org.nz] by crimsun [03:53] during i mark it inform not authenticated? should i proceed or need to do anything? === Xorlev [n=xorlev@unaffiliated/xorlev] has joined #ubuntu [03:53] should i proceed? [03:53] jmg, please don't flood [03:53] hello im trying to play thig game paintball an the mouse is all messed up. right away the mouse looks stright up and won move down and its not inverte or anything???? [03:53] <_jason> atty: what repos are you using? === mode/#ubuntu [-b %*!*@shinobi.thoughtcrime.org.nz] by crimsun [03:53] <_jason> atty: it just means its not the official ubuntu repo [03:53] i'm not sure... but i did follow ur instruction yesterday === mode/#ubuntu [-o crimsun] by crimsun [03:53] thanks... [03:53] sorry about that breif disruption ladies and gentlemen [03:53] Hi all [03:53] so can i proceed _jason? [03:54] http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2600 [03:54] <_jason> atty: yes, I am using that package right now [03:54] ok [03:54] i will do it now [03:54] be right back === No1Viking [i=micke@h-83-140-104-3.ip.cust.port80.se] has joined #ubuntu === angeloo [i=sunkich@illvilja.org] has joined #ubuntu === slicslak [n=slicslak@S0106000f66e13f97.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:54] os2mac: ok i'm back... let me scroll up [03:54] does anyone know how I can install windows xp on a machine via network from my ubuntu machine? [03:55] how can we know either we are using Breezy or Hoary? === benplaut [n=benplaut@cpe-70-95-146-177.hawaii.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === Rotund [n=joe@d28-117.rb.lax.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:55] what the different between Breezy & Hoary? [03:56] !breezy [03:56] The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade === Rylie [n=unnone@65-182-234-130.ccmtc.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:56] bleh [03:56] os2mac: ok.... i have it saved now [03:56] epiloc, i don't think you can do a network install with windows [03:56] !bad bot [03:56] bad benplaut! [03:56] crimsun, the suggested repos I got were of Ubuntu's site, so I trust them. Maybe my old crap in here is upsetting some of the new stuff. I may use the time between now and the official release to get as much important stuff off my system as possible and then do a total re-install of Breezy. === Rylie [n=unnone@65-182-234-130.ccmtc.com] has joined #ubuntu === melfyk [n=matt@204-117-69-126-dsl.etv.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:56] atty: cat /etc/lsb-release [03:56] atty [03:56] Use the command: [03:56] $cat /etc/issue [03:57] also when you do the ndiswrapper -i and the modprob ndiswrapper do it as root. === weo1 [n=weo@p5499D271.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:57] ok. i'm reading ubotu web given === zever [n=zever@kotnet-145.kulnet.kuleuven.be] has joined #ubuntu [03:57] os2mac: ok... what's the difference between sudo and su? === din [n=din@24.144.40.40] has joined #ubuntu [03:58] good question ... I have never used sudo.... I am an old geek.... [03:58] I have always used su. [03:58] os2mac: ahhh :) [03:58] <_jason> what does su do :o [03:58] os2mac: okey dokey ... I'll do what you say... :) [03:58] switch user. [03:58] _jason: it gives you access to the root [03:59] <_jason> oh I see [03:59] still i dont understand. is it breezy more good that hoary? [03:59] <_jason> linner: so just like root terminal? === gabaug [n=gabe@ppp-70-225-175-2.dsl.chmpil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:59] yes similiar [03:59] but then it reverts in case you forget to [03:59] _jason: I believe so === burnboy [n=burnboy@71.98.89.146] has joined #ubuntu [03:59] atty: it's newer, but it's still in beta [03:59] i think sudo allows you maintain as root without actually setting a root password [03:59] _jason: it's a safety measure - what DonL said [03:59] yay, latest update on breezy fixes beagle, this is cool stuff. [03:59] sort of.. [03:59] beta?? i think i'll stick to hoary [03:59] :)) === Co_pemalu [n=yudho@202.95.133.10] has joined #ubuntu [04:00] yes, linner, I like it for that [04:00] i am playing digital paintball and my mouse is messed up anyone know how i can ficx it?? [04:00] DonL: me too :) === misfit_toy tips hat to DEV's [04:00] atty: good idea - the best bet is to reinstall...i screwed my system yesterday with it [04:00] misfit_toy: When? my beagle is segfaulting all over the shop. [04:00] spindley he is using an installed version. [04:00] lol [04:00] oh [04:00] cafuego, as of about an hour ago [04:00] Or dop i need to delete indexen? [04:00] so he probably needs to set a root pwd [04:00] i'm satisfied with ubuntu === vader1102 [n=kevin@dsl-72-1-219.170.tel-ott.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:00] os2mac: I'm a she... :) [04:00] compare to fedora and suse [04:00] <_jason> linner: so su uses the root password and won't work unless you set one? [04:00] easy [04:00] simple [04:00] sorry.... [04:00] :( [04:00] yay...another she! [04:00] os2mac: it's ok.. i get it all the time [04:01] linner: yes, i'm not surprised [04:01] my humble apologies.... [04:01] it was wrong for me to assume. [04:01] _jason, su means 'switch user' [04:01] Hobbsee: why do you say that? [04:01] spindley: i thought it meant "super user" [04:01] linner: well there seem to be very few women on there, so i assume all the women get that [04:01] <_jason> spindley: su just prompts me for a password, which I am assuming is the root one since mine doesn't work like with sudo [04:01] Hobbsee: ahhh I see :) [04:01] linner: i didnt mean that you sound male or anything :P [04:01] linner: really i didnt lol [04:01] nor did I... === KingBahamut [n=bahamut@c-24-98-229-28.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:02] linner, nah you can 'su [04:02] ' [04:02] Hobbsee: no, I didn't take it that way... just was curious :) [04:02] although we dont really have female usernames [04:02] spindley: ahhh [04:02] <_jason> spindley: oh [04:02] 'su -' will switch to root [04:02] Well, it's been a pleasure. Must go for now. Thanks for all the help! [04:02] with the pass of course :) === DonL [n=don@d206-116-131-181.bchsia.telus.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [04:02] Hobbsee: neither do i.. and i did that on purpose to be taken seriously :) [04:02] linner: it's still early in the morning - not enough coke had yet === Mrono [n=Mrono@ip68-231-0-8.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:02] Hobbsee: where are you? [04:02] hi [04:02] linner: true, Australia === MrNaughty [n=mrnaught@S01060013103e9ce9.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:03] Hobbsee: oh okay :) [04:03] how's it going Linner? [04:03] anyone here who could help me with an install problem for 5.04 === Am|NickTaken [i=travis@ACABFFCB.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:03] os2mac: i haven't done it yet... have a few PMs to attend to [04:03] os2mac: give me like 5 minutes.... is that ok? [04:03] yeah no worries.. you want me to hang out and wait? [04:03] ello? [04:03] cafuego, now if only luminocity would be built quickly into breezy final I would shit a brick right here and now. [04:04] hey Mrono - what's your question [04:04] os2mac: oh I certainly don't want to monopolize your time [04:04] then we'll see if anyone can answer it [04:04] os2mac: if you can that would be awesome [04:04] 1. it wont install the rest of the cd === childe [n=childe@inet-nc01-o.oracle.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:04] Hello. === misfit_toy heads out for a cigar... [04:04] 2 it gets to the detecting cd rom and sits at 50% [04:04] no worries.. I am happy to have it working on my own distro... .like I said I tried to mess with it for several hours last night and couldn't get it to work correctly... [04:04] Does anybody know when can we get the latest version of Groff in Ubuntu? [04:05] I am just happy to pass on the lessons learned. [04:05] call it paying the debt.... you gave me the missing piece.... === ST4T1K [n=craig@craiggers.rh.rit.edu] has joined #ubuntu === Co_pemalu [n=yudho@202.95.133.10] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [04:05] oh, quick question, since I"m on 2.6.12-8-386 [04:05] , why don't they have the linux-source for this? only the generic 2.6.12 which won't let nvidia compile!? === sadrul [n=sadrul@CPE000bdbc4e5ed-CM0011e6c4487f.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:06] any ideas [04:06] os2mac: ok.... i'm done now with the PMs [04:06] it did this to me on another machine [04:06] bye everyone === brownie17 [n=fraser@static-203-87-6-82.vic.chariot.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [04:06] ok === misfit_toy watches "motion" grab vid pics from his driveway... [04:06] damn cats [04:07] os2mac: so should i follow the same directions minus the step where it points to my jump drive? === hou5ton [n=hou5ton@n14-99-152-206.tranquility.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:08] I did the instructions from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper but ran them as root. === holycow [n=a@S0106000fb51e6051.vf.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:08] rather than sudo root === nomasteryoda [n=nomaster@ip24-252-193-86.mc.at.cox.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [04:08] os2mac: by directions i mean these : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper [04:08] anyone have any ideas [04:08] os2mac: ok === TraceGreen [n=Trace@61.149.158.119] has joined #ubuntu [04:08] os2mac: right on [04:08] os2mac: i'll try it now [04:09] Mrono: nope, unless the cd's not spinning quickly enough === RuffianSoldier [i=user@cpe-24-209-106-36.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === conner [n=conner@c-24-19-57-50.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === RexKwonDo [n=david@adsl-222-109-149.jan.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu === RuffianSoldier [i=user@cpe-24-209-106-36.woh.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu [] [04:09] also I was actually in the directory where the file was located (not that it should make any difference. [04:09] it installed stuf before it stopped at the cd [04:09] and it'll run the live just fine === bob2 [n=rob@crumbs.ertius.org] has joined #ubuntu [04:09] os2mac: right got that [04:10] is there a problem with the nvidia kernel module for breezy with 2.6.12-9? [04:10] gpd: Not as of a few minutes ago on AMD64. Howso? [04:10] if anyone wants to turn an old webcam into a vid capture device for any reason...http://freshmeat.net/projects/motion/ works great [04:10] mine does not seem to recognize4 my card [04:10] why doesnt the live cd mount existing file systems [04:10] there's a problem with that stupid nvidia kernel with every kernel with every distro [04:10] gpd: What card? === P8ntKid [n=jon@pcp0011206788pcs.salsbr01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:11] cafuego_: GeForce 6800 [04:11] worked fine under hoary [04:11] gpd: Hmm, odd. No, not a clue. [04:11] I'm using the 6800 and mine works fine === Am|NickTaken is now known as Amaranth [04:11] well [04:11] i gtg [04:11] i'll see you guys later === senaque [n=friendly@ppp121-3.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:12] do you keep the module in /lib/modules/xxx/volitile? [04:12] os2mac: it says i have to remove the first file [04:12] os2mac: how do i do that? === mode/#ubuntu [+o bob2] by ChanServ [04:12] hold on a sec [04:12] os2mac: ok [04:12] I'd really really not mess in the volatile dir [04:12] at all, ever === mode/#ubuntu [-b %brownie17!*@*] by bob2 [04:12] well the nvidia module is installed in there by apt [04:12] bob2, good on you === Mrono [n=Mrono@ip68-231-0-8.ph.ph.cox.net] has left #ubuntu [] [04:12] ndiswrapper -e bcmwl5.inf [04:12] can someone tell me what is the name of a good vcd creation software? [04:12] os2mac: thank you === GNULinuxer [n=ghoseb@unaffiliated/gnulinuxer] has joined #ubuntu [04:13] no worries.. === nomed [n=daniele@82.52.56.109] has joined #ubuntu [04:13] hi all [04:13] device-mapper ioctl cmd 12 failed: No such device or address [04:13] for the record... if you run ndiswrapper with no switches it will tell you all that.. [04:13] why there is difference on shipit.ubuntu.com and shipit.ubuntulinux.org? [04:13] are there the cloop sources in ubuntu? [04:13] jmg: er [04:13] jmg: pick one channel [04:13] BRB [04:14] I have had some crashing with FireFox, so I'm testing out Epiphany. Is there a way to have a static "search" bubble on the toolbars? [04:14] [pid 23930] ioctl(4, DM_TABLE_STATUS, 0x807d378) = -1 ENXIO (No such device or address) [04:14] os2mac: ok.... i have another question for you when you return === herfo [n=friendly@ppp121-3.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:14] !logs [04:14] Channel Logs are at: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ [04:15] i see cloop-utils .. but i don't see cloop-src .. what's wrong? === kadigibox [n=kadigibo@70-57-200-50.hlna.qwest.net] has left #ubuntu ["Life,] [04:15] back [04:15] rejden: that appears to be a bug === ocavid [n=ocavid@203.177.166.35] has joined #ubuntu === lucky [n=lucky@CPE000625f49f20-CM0014045d1130.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu === reter [n=daisies@adsl-10-220-160.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:16] mmm Earl Grey.... [04:16] i cannot play mp3 on ubuntu, what can i do? [04:16] os2mac: i love tea [04:16] !restrictedformats [04:16] ocavid: read the FAQ [04:16] I guess restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs' [04:16] hi. I'm trying to install azureus. I follow the instructions on the wiki thing, but it gives me: E: Couldn't find package azureus [04:16] ocavid: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictFormats [04:16] in ubuntu, the cd failed to upload all the database files. how can i do it manually? [04:16] os2mac: ok... so can you join #ubuntu-offtopic so i can past what it's tell me? [04:17] I switch back and forth.. between coffee and tea... right now it's Earl Grey. [04:17] yes hang on. === nybble_hawk is now known as nybble [04:17] #ubuntu-offtopic [04:17] rejden: what does "failed to upload all the database" files mean? [04:17] bob2, cos i canceled my order cos i dunno if it's for 5.10 or 5.04 [04:17] bob2, huh [04:18] bob2: well the installation cd said "failed installation" [04:18] bah [04:18] bob2, oh :) [04:18] bob2: the database files didnt go through and its not on machine. i have no gnome [04:18] is there a way i can get all of it manually without the cd [04:19] reter: sounds like the CD is broken [04:19] it installed the system === jknife [n=jknife@24-181-244-056.dhcp.snfr.nc.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:19] ubuntu is running..i just have no desktop/gnome === benkong2 [n=benjamin@cpe-065-190-203-070.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:19] did you do network? [04:20] it's impossible to help without more details [04:20] what mode do you want? [04:20] more [04:20] i don't have gnome === lucky [n=lucky@CPE000625f49f20-CM0014045d1130.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [04:20] i want gnome and all the files that come with it [04:20] why i upgraded to breezy.. X had a few broken links i fixed them.. then my keyboard every time i pressed a key changed res.(cept the num pad) [04:20] where i could find k3b-mp3 package? [04:21] "wanting gnome" is not a description of a problem [04:21] reter, apt-get update && apt-get install gnome gdm [04:21] it's impossible to tell if the problem is that X is misconfigured or if your CD was corrupt [04:21] bob2, i checked the logs, i hadn't said a single thing for approx 2 hours when seveas banned me. could it have been an accident? [04:22] anyone have any idea what might cause my installation of ubuntu to slow down drastically at ~6% complete (it seems like it hangs, but it does install packages every few minutes). From 0% to 6% packages seem to be installed much faster [04:22] brownie17: I dunno, you'd have to ask Seveas [04:22] _jason. after finish update java. should i restart my laptop? [04:22] it seems that there is a version conflict between nvidia kernel module 7174 and driver 7xxx [04:22] bob2, i figured it out, i was stuffing artound with ubotu in another channel, and i forgot to erase what i put in there. but i didn't destroy anything worth being in there [04:22] bob2, sorry [04:23] why i upgraded to breezy.. X had a few broken links i fixed them.. then my keyboard every time i pressed a key changed res.(cept the num pad) === packman_e [n=packman_@i-83-67-28-242.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:23] bob2: where i could find k3b-mp3 package? [04:23] !faq [04:23] it has been said that faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/ [04:23] im using 5.04 now [04:24] hello all [04:24] im about to give up === hopeng-o [n=officely@202.78.196.82] has joined #ubuntu [04:24] on this network boot install === oblib [n=oblib@156-130-13-204.erd.cust.wirelessbeehive.com] has joined #ubuntu === Phily [n=phil@ip062.195-51-69.sogetel.net] has joined #ubuntu === chorton [n=chorton@pcp0010702372pcs.manass01.va.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === sadrul [n=sadrul@CPE000bdbc4e5ed-CM0011e6c4487f.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [04:25] epiloc, do cd install then apt-get dist-upgrade [04:25] hello all I need some help, I will to clean up deamons and services at startup I don't need cups lp and others how do I do this? [04:25] gpd: 7174 is a bit old, too. [04:25] Also I want to know how far I can go [04:25] Phily: check out rcconf [04:25] which process do kill [04:25] jknife: i am trying to install ANY OS on my diskless laptop vai network [04:25] Question: when I boot up, Ubuntu does not mount my serial ata drive (sda1). I can mount it just fine once I'm in Ubuntu. Anyone know why? === zenwhen [n=zenwhen@localghost.us] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [04:26] jknife: diskless you mean network boot [04:26] oblib: is it set to "noauto" in /etc/fstab? [04:26] Phily, ??? [04:26] no: /dev/sda1 /win/f ntfs nls=utf8,umask=0222 0 0 [04:26] epiloc, no floppy, no cdrom, no usb? [04:26] no nothing! [04:26] its sooo bad [04:26] your fed [04:27] pull the hd.. install it on one pc and move it back [04:27] ive never taken a hd out of a lappy [04:27] dont i need a conversion drive? [04:27] like 3.5" or something [04:27] epiloc: is there any OS on it right now? [04:27] no [04:27] beats me.. im a desktop person === Manager [n=manager@80.172.166.108] has joined #ubuntu [04:28] it has pcmcia slots, but they are not picking up the pcmcia external cdrom [04:28] so i had installed the linux-restricted-xxx-nvidia... which was not required... removing fixed the problem [04:28] i figured, i have to get an OS on there first, to install drivers... THEN the pcmcia will work [04:28] epiloc, is the bios set up correctly? [04:29] yes, i have tried countless things in the bios [04:29] 'pcmcia' doesnt appear once in the bios [04:29] why is that? [04:29] any other ideas quin, === kentaur [n=kent@adsl-065-006-206-159.sip.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:29] its gay? [04:29] Quinthius? [04:29] Quinthius: tks for rcconf, but is fetchmail required [04:29] anyone pls help where i could download k3b-mp3 [04:30] jesus im about to rip my hair out [04:30] ocavid, d/l the source and build it yourself [04:30] heh [04:30] jknife ok where it is located? [04:30] and then build a pkg for everyone else [04:30] GOOGLE [04:31] (srry for caps) === walde [n=walde@iD4CC0539.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu [04:31] wow awesome [04:31] the new add/remove progs in Breezy [04:31] "I thought Synaptic was simple, but this really takes it to the next level. Want VLC? Click Sound & Video, More programs, and check the box next to VLC. Click Apply. Done." [04:31] http://www.tectonic.co.za/viewr.php?id=611 [04:31] jknife ok i will try === cimon [n=cimon@wikipedia/Cimon-avaro] has joined #ubuntu [04:31] or kde main site [04:32] oblib: i dont know what else to suggest, sorry :/ === socomm [n=socomm@68.121.47.133] has joined #ubuntu === beau [n=beau@adsl-070-157-197-156.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:33] epiloc, i have no clue about your problem [04:33] Phily: fetchmail? i dont THINK so, but not sure... i think it's recommended to leave postfix enabled though [04:33] jknife: i think the answer lies in netbooting [04:33] it has pxe enabled network card [04:34] ive never used netboot [04:34] Quinthius: do u know if rsync is used for anything specail [04:34] Quinthius: I don't use it [04:34] Does anybody know how to take a screenshot in XFCE? [04:34] i can set up the bios to boot off the network card but i not the cdrom drive :( [04:35] ask in #gentoo (im sure one of the 1000 ppl in there know) [04:35] oblib: it's kind of cheating, but how about putting a 'mount' command in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh ? [04:36] How would I make it so that I would not need to authenticate with my samba server? === FhaeTon [n=FhaeTon@adsl-68-72-87-211.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:36] Knelix: "import" from imagemagick [04:36] Knelix: use scrot command line tool === skrewdriver [n=skrewdri@203-217-37-175.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [04:37] epiloc: google "pxe tftp ubuntu" +site:wiki.ubuntu.com [04:37] the default servers are faster for me then the us servers [04:37] socomm: configure them not to use passwords [04:37] socomm: or setup kerberos [04:37] bob2: what does "+" do in google queries? [04:37] jknife: archive.ubuntu.com and us.archive.ubuntu.com are the same machine in london [04:37] dooglus: logical AND [04:37] dooglus: guess it's not really needed [04:37] Knelix: scrot uses imlib2 very fast! [04:37] bob2: google defaults to logical AND [04:37] hey guys, trying to compile a driver (first attempt at compiling), can't get make to work. do I need to download any extra packages? === cimon [n=cimon@wikipedia/Cimon-avaro] has left #ubuntu [] === FhaeTon [n=FhaeTon@adsl-68-72-87-211.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu === hejux [n=hejux@218.3.94.65] has joined #ubuntu [04:38] skrewdriver: when asking questions like that, you need to mention what driver it is, and also paste the error to #flood or the pastebin in the /topic [04:38] error is: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-8-386/build: No such file or directory. Stop. [04:38] bob2, i have been following the wiki for the past 3 hours [04:38] oops. sorry. === noreen [n=noreen@202.84.106.241] has joined #ubuntu [04:38] bob2: aah... " If a common word is essential to getting the results you want, you can include it by putting a "+" sign in front of it" [04:38] bob2, something is not right :( === Traum [n=Traum@S010600e0989ee118.wp.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:39] bob2, umm i get 30Kb from the having us and ~70/~100 without it [04:39] bob2, Phily: Where the heck are those? [04:39] skrewdriver: and the driver is? === paulproteu1 [n=paulprot@pool-141-157-7-164.balt.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:39] dooglus: ah, glad there's some justification for it ;) [04:39] Knelix: apt-get install scrot === ELwuu [n=iruvze@206.132.79.112] has joined #ubuntu [04:39] epiloc: and the wiki page you are following is ... [04:39] gud day how should i install my lx-300+ on my ubuntu box? need help === lastnode [n=lastnode@220.247.229.10] has joined #ubuntu === ELwuu [n=iruvze@206.132.79.112] has left #ubuntu [] [04:40] how come fortune is edited? [04:40] Knelix: install the imagemagick package like you would any other [04:40] bob2: driver is iburst-2.1.1 [04:40] jknife: define "edited" === packman_e [n=packman_@i-83-67-28-242.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu === _jason [n=jason@dhcp0534.hrn.resnet.group.upenn.edu] has joined #ubuntu [04:40] in vi [04:40] Knelix: just type scrot form command line and you get a screenshot from your desktop into the current directory [04:40] hello people [04:40] skrewdriver: sudo aptitude -y install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential [04:40] vi, its suppose to be :wq to save and leave right? [04:40] -o list is gone [04:40] what is a good email client to use for ubuntu 5.04 please [04:40] bob2, http://wiki.koeln.ccc.de/index.php/Ubuntu_PXE_Install [04:40] bob2: thanks mate [04:41] packman_e, thunderbird [04:41] how can you just save in VI [04:41] this is the biggest nightmare i have ever encountered [04:41] ??? === difeta [n=difeta@c-67-170-40-240.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:41] jknife: if you say so; look at the output of "host us.archive.ubuntu.com and "host archive.ubuntu.com" [04:41] ohh lol [04:41] Phily: Ah... installing... [04:41] epiloc: ignore that and do what I said [04:41] hey all! I've just installed breezy and none of the icons are showing up in nautilus. Any ideas? [04:41] how about a news reader? [04:41] gud day how should i install my lx-300+ on my ubuntu box? need help [04:41] anybody got their wifi working with intel pro 2200BG? im on a thinkpad r50e === cfh_dev [n=chall@68-114-42-111.static.gwnt.ga.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:42] bob2, i get no fortunes found [04:42] noreen: try phrasing your question better [04:42] bob2: I just want to take a screen shot... sounds like imagemagick is a more complete/sophisticated app... I just wanna do something very simple. === socomm [n=socomm@68.121.47.133] has left #ubuntu [":wq"] [04:42] noreen: e.g., what on earth is a "lx-300+"? [04:42] lastnode: lots of people have that working fine [04:42] Knelix: install it. run "import -root foo.png". all done. [04:42] help me !!! ubuntu 5.10 , i cannt play *.rmvb *.avi *wmv etc. [04:42] Is there an easy way to install the Debugging packages for all my packages? [04:42] hejux: a) don't be irritating === billy [n=billy@cm200.epsilon164.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu [04:42] ... /etc/apt/sources.list can't open file for writing [04:42] hejux: b) wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats === nicknamefk [n=FBI@222.33.36.131] has joined #ubuntu === dbzdeath2 [n=dbzdeath@203-59-103-31.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [04:43] how can i save what i editied here [04:43] reter: you need to run your editor with sudo [04:43] Kyral: no [04:43] well is there any USA mirrors around? [04:43] jknife: wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive [04:43] Is there somewhere Gnome keeps a list of programs that startup when Gnome starts? [04:43] bob2: Remind me to do that when I do a clean server install of Breezy === Phily [n=phil@ip062.195-51-69.sogetel.net] has left #ubuntu ["Parti"] === billy is now known as wickedpuppy [04:44] cfh_dev: system -> preferences -> session [04:44] bob2, does ubuntu auto detect or should i get the driver? === Manager [n=manager@80.172.166.108] has left #ubuntu [] === cjXouaCB [n=attmciee@85.204.194.95] has joined #ubuntu === cjXouaCB [n=attmciee@85.204.194.95] has left #ubuntu [] === zakame [n=zakame@210.213.77.190] has joined #ubuntu [04:44] lastnode: it includes the driver === cjXouaCB [n=attmciee@85.204.194.95] has joined #ubuntu === cjXouaCB [n=attmciee@85.204.194.95] has left #ubuntu [] [04:44] question, i just got a dell maxtor external harddrive and it has ntfs on it. is there a simple way in linux to make another partiton on it that windows AND linux can use? [04:44] bob2, thanks === jsg_ [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu === alex_f [n=alexf@ppp-69-216-38-11.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:44] delltony: does it have free space? [04:44] thank you bob2 ^_^ [04:44] yeah i just got it [04:45] 300gig [04:45] no, I mean, unallocated space [04:45] bob2, sorry to be a numbnuts, but that means i can just install and do ifup wa0? [04:45] On a default Hoary install, is there a way to remove Evolution without removing ubuntu-desktop? [04:45] or is it one 300GB NTFs partition? [04:45] one ntfs partition as far as i know [04:45] lastnode: that means you can install, then configure it to do whatever you want, yes [04:45] delltony: then you need parted or ntfsresize [04:45] i would assume anyway cause its right out of the box [04:45] bob2: done that, still getting the same error [04:45] cfh_dev: no === jsg_ is now known as jsgotangco [04:45] skrewdriver: paste the whole error to #flood === alisher [n=alex@vp211196.kln.uac75.hknet.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:46] cfh_dev, Ubuntu-Desktop is a metapackage that basically does nothing [04:46] its safe to remove === jerry [n=jerry@cpe-66-27-204-255.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:46] no, it's not [04:46] delltony: you just got this drive, right? so it's blank? [04:46] ok ill download parted and look at the manpages and come back if i have any questions thanks [04:46] unless you know what it's for [04:46] e.g. you will break upgrades by removing it === astro76 [n=james@unaffiliated/astro76] has joined #ubuntu [04:46] bob2, Correction, until you Dist-Upgrade [04:46] Kyral, so removing ubuntu-desktop shouldn't affect anything when I want to remove Evolution? [04:46] yah [04:46] well dooglus yeah i just got it but the thing wanted to format the drive to ntfs for backup and i let it (windows software that is) [04:46] but reinstall it before you make the jump to Breezy [04:46] if you don't remove ubuntu-desktop, you can't remove a lot of the other crap that you don't need, can you? [04:46] cfh_dev: why do you want to remove evolution? [04:47] bob2: okay, pasted [04:47] but i want to use it with linux as well since my primary os on my personal laptop is linux [04:47] bob2, Maybe he doesn't like it? [04:47] bob2, I prefer thunderbird if any local mail client === reter [n=daisies@adsl-10-220-160.mia.bellsouth.net] has left #ubuntu [] [04:47] I didn't like it for a long time [04:47] Linux is about choices right? === BROKEN_LADDER [n=bal@adsl-69-227-57-228.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:47] i think parted might do the trick [04:47] skrewdriver: the output of "dpkg -l linux-headers-$(uname -r) | tail -n1"? [04:47] Kyral, that's the spirit ;-) [04:47] delltony: sounds like you want to delete the ntfs partition, then make some new partitions. if you want both windows and linux to be able to write to the same partition, you're stuck with FAT32 unfortunately. [04:47] what is meant by osx's "pdf based" quartz? that sounds terribly cumbersome and slow. [04:47] Kyral: sure, but it only consumes some small amount of disk [04:48] Kyral: people can choose to do whatever they want, but removing evolution will make upgrades more complicated [04:48] bob2, it has memory resident pieces that I'm not too keen about [04:48] actually there is a project called captive that states it can read/right ntfs gnu/linux === afaik [n=jcarr@216-138-43-178.adams.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:48] delltony: if it's blank, you can just nuke it and repartition it from scratch [04:48] dooglus, well he could use ntfs he would just have to scan it every time he wrote to it in linux [04:48] cfh_dev: stop them running then [04:48] thats what i'm gonna do bob2 [04:48] since I installed ubuntu I have a REAL problem with my laptop overheating all the time [04:48] why!? [04:48] What can I do!? [04:48] jknife: how would he even write to it in linux? [04:48] bob2, I can stop the procs but I'm having to hunt down what is starting them [04:49] <_jason> afaik: what laptop do you have [04:49] doesn't windows have a driver or something that will read ext3? i seen it on a forum i thought somewherre === nalioth_wrkn is now known as nalioth === _ZydRick_ [n=zydrick@26.Red-81-35-174.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:49] dooglus, enable write support to ntfs in his kernel [04:49] Dell Inspiron 1100 [04:49] delltony: read, yes [04:49] bob2, IMO, removing a package shouldn't break anything unless its a direct depend [04:49] what's the correct module for a centrino? [04:49] delltony: I wouldn't trust windows not to break it if it wrote to it [04:49] jknife: did you try that? it doesn't let you do anything other than overwrite existing files [04:49] eruin: module for what? wireless? [04:49] Kyral: sure, but it still makes upgrades harder [04:49] but really i want two partitions 50gig/50gig 50 ntfs and 50 fat32 i assume its possible [04:49] bob2, err, sorry, pentium m :) [04:49] bob2: looks like the packages weren't installed [04:50] Kyral: people who know what effect removing ubunut-desktop will have will not be asking on irc [04:50] delltony: yes there is, but do you want windows mucking around in your linux? === digital-x- [n=Accepted@82.193.82.126] has joined #ubuntu [04:50] delltony: how about having two partitions, one for windows to write and one for linux. they could both read each other's partitions, but not write. [04:50] skrewdriver: run the aptitude command again [04:50] WTT WOW ACC FamaleHumanMage Lvl60 - Profile: @*@*@ http://www.nextworld.ru/?rid=55615 @*@*@ PM for more info @ http://www.nextworld.ru/?rid=55615 [04:50] dooglus, its still "write" support === digital-x- [n=Accepted@82.193.82.126] has left #ubuntu [requested] [04:50] <_jason> afaik: i have a dell inspiron 820 and it hasn't given me any heat issues. How do you know it is overheating? === digital-x- [n=Accepted@82.193.82.126] has joined #ubuntu [04:50] delltony: you only really need about 7gb for windows (on NTFS) [04:50] thats what i want dooglus [04:50] delltony: Im not sure windows will actually work with a 50GB fat32 partition [04:50] not installing windows on it [04:50] it has an absurdly low limit === digital-x- [n=Accepted@82.193.82.126] has left #ubuntu [] [04:50] bob2, so when I do a server install I should install Ubuntu-Desktop even though I don't want half of the packages? [04:50] nalioth: it's an external drive. I don't think he's installing windows on it [04:50] simply for file storage backups only thats it [04:51] eruin: you don't need to load special anything then [04:51] but windows fat32 doesn't like long file names [04:51] Kyral: server != desktop used by people who don't really grok apt === jasmuz [n=jasmuz@107sdl30m45.codetel.net.do] has joined #ubuntu === AoWleoO [n=attmciee@85.204.194.95] has joined #ubuntu [04:51] and linux hates ntfs === AoWleoO [n=attmciee@85.204.194.95] has left #ubuntu [] [04:51] delltony: use NTFS and reiserfs. or NTFS and ext3 [04:51] windows fat32 does 255-cahr filenames just fine [04:51] Kyral: no, you should install what you want to use on it [04:51] and this can be done with parted? [04:51] thank you [04:51] bob2: aptitude says it can't find the package "linux-headers-2.6.12-8-386" [04:51] bob2, I have issues with the computer resetting because it gets too hot. only happens in linux, so I figure something wrong is loaded :/ === ksmurf [n=ksmurf@S0106000c76ba0623.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu === scanwinder [n=scanwind@CPE-60-224-192-21.wa.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [04:52] delltony: use fat32 [04:52] I don't fully grok apt, but I believe I know enough to know what will fsck up what [04:52] eruin: only in ubuntu, as far as I can tell... === thrice` [n=andrew@unaffiliated/Thr1cE] has joined #ubuntu [04:52] eruin: mandriva's fine [04:52] can someone help me?, i have an mpg file that is about 850meg and i want to shrink it under 700 [04:52] skrewdriver: your kernel is out of date === onDqox [n=attmciee@85.204.194.95] has joined #ubuntu === onDqox is now known as PaooeioOa [04:52] it does? reason i say that bob2 is it was orignally fat32 and i went to copy some files to the drive that were long file names and it gave me that error === PaooeioOa [n=attmciee@85.204.194.95] has left #ubuntu [] [04:52] eruin: dooglus my centrino laptop as been running ubuntu for 10 months and it's never overheated, and I've heard the fan turn on about 4 times === Phily [n=Phily@ip062.195-51-69.Sogetel.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:53] none the less parted will let me partition the drive like i want? [04:53] delltony: what error? [04:53] delltony: yes [04:53] bob2, heh. [04:53] bob2: bloody hell. is there a quick way to get it up to date? === Toma- [n=lin4me@203-59-184-156.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [04:54] n00b question here!!! what is rsync? [04:54] well it said something in regard to disk partition table doesn't support long file names [04:54] Knelix: did u get your screen shot [04:54] jknife: apt-ccache show rsync [04:54] but anyway thats said and done i just want to get the drive formated :) === rockie [n=rockie@61.190.65.16] has joined #ubuntu [04:54] jknife: and rsync.samba.org [04:54] jknife: fast remote file copy program (like rcp) [04:54] bob2, that doesn't exactly mean nobody elses centrino models might have issues with the current ubuntu setup now does it? [04:54] skrewdriver: install linux-386 [04:54] eruin: no, I was disputing dooglus's claim it was a general ubuntu issue [04:54] bob2: sweet. thanks man. [04:55] eruin: what does google say about other people's experiences? [04:55] Question: when I boot up, Ubuntu does not mount my serial ata drive (sda1). I can mount it just fine once I'm in Ubuntu. Anyone know why? [04:55] ty [04:55] is there something I can do to fix my laptop from overheating? [04:55] bob2, haven't found anything of substance yet [04:55] bob2: I wasn't saying it was a general ubuntu problem. I was saying it wasn't a general linux problem [04:55] oblib: is it in your fstab? === xuniluser [n=grifter@sili.adnu.edu.ph] has joined #ubuntu [04:55] bob2: I was saying it was specific to ubuntu === foo-bar- [n=foobar@c-65-96-218-131.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === karljp [n=karl@dsl-33.ln.netheimur.is] has joined #ubuntu [04:55] afaik: buy a cool pad? [04:55] nalioth: as follows: /dev/sda1 /win/f ntfs nls=utf8,umask=0222 0 0 === NeoFax [n=terry@c-24-10-109-222.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:55] What cd burner do you use in ubuntu? [04:55] nalioth, not the solution, it does not overheat when I dual boot to windows [04:56] afaik: u can get one of those bottom fan add on [04:56] Last night I was asking if anyone had ideas about why my internal wifi card kept going awol for no apperent reason on my acer travelmate 2312. I'm using breezy kernal 2.6.12-9-686. The card is seen again now but i know It will leave with 5 reboots (laptop). Can anyone give me insight into why this may be happening? [04:56] so obviously, there is a configuration setting that needs to be set [04:56] Phily, NOT THE SOLUTION! [04:56] eruin: file a bug in bugzilla.ubuntu.com, component linux === Travis|H [n=travis@68-187-95-204.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:56] THERE MUST BE SOME CONFIGURATION SETTING [04:56] afaik: file a bug, too [04:56] afaik: stop it === iueAeo [n=uacoezko@206.132.79.112] has joined #ubuntu [04:56] afaik: Pentium M down clock it [04:56] bob2: there are several bugs about this already [04:56] because my laptop doesnt overheat in windows === iueAeo [n=uacoezko@206.132.79.112] has left #ubuntu [] [04:56] Phily, NOT THE SOLUTION [04:56] afaik: chill out === unit03 [n=unit03@210.213.175.57] has joined #ubuntu [04:56] oblib: you need "auto," in front of the nls part [04:57] afaik: watch the caps, please [04:57] afaik: r u using Pentium M? [04:57] the kernel should block the cpu when it's about to overheat, before it gets powered down. but it doesn't. [04:57] itr's not hardware, it is obviously a configuration issue [04:57] Phily, no [04:57] windows does it fine, so does mandrake. ubuntu somehow doesn't. [04:57] Xeon === ipceuo [n=uacoezko@206.132.79.112] has joined #ubuntu [04:57] afaik: what r u using === barosl [n=barosl@61.77.213.201] has joined #ubuntu [04:57] i'm sorry to be a pest but is there a hold my hand walkthru howto for parted? [04:57] dooglus: you've tested the same machine with mandrake and ubuntu? === ipceuo [n=uacoezko@206.132.79.112] has left #ubuntu [] [04:57] bob2: yes. and xp [04:57] delltony: open a terminal, and type "sudo apt-get install qtparted" [04:57] bob2: this laptop tri-boots === Octane [n=octane@dsl092-100-149.nyc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:58] my bad, celeron [04:58] delltony: after it's done, start it from the terminal === barosl [n=barosl@61.77.213.201] has joined #ubuntu [04:58] delltony: it's self-explanatory [04:58] dooglus: interesting; have you followed up to one of the bug reports? [04:58] nalioth: like this? /dev/sda1 /win/f ntfs auto,nls=utf8,umask=0222 0 0 [04:58] bob2: yes [04:58] dooglus: great, thanks === mode/#ubuntu [-o bob2] by bob2 [04:58] "E: The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/rsync could not be found." [04:58] oblib: yes [04:58] delltony: use qtparted [04:58] bob2: I've been a bug reporting machine this last 2 weeks. === boxerboy29 [n=boxerboy@adsl-144-177-44.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:58] jknife: for errors like that, you need to tell us what on earth you're doing to get that error === iieHgoiW [n=uacoezko@206.132.79.112] has joined #ubuntu [04:59] oh qtparted not parted [04:59] nalioth: why do my other drives mount fine without that? [04:59] alright let me try that [04:59] dooglus: hah, cool; any been fixed yet? === Vaske_Car [n=opera@d36-72-47.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:59] delltony: if you have a thing for gtk, you can install gparted instead [04:59] i set sources.list to use rsyns.. did apt-get update [04:59] oblib: do they have "auto" in their lines? [04:59] rsycn* [04:59] jknife: er, so don't do that [04:59] nah i don't knock it till i try it and it don't work for me :) === iieHgoiW [n=uacoezko@206.132.79.112] has left #ubuntu [] === gpd notes crashing F-Spot in breezy [04:59] jknife: afaik, apt doesn't have a rsync method [04:59] this is a bit off topic but i feel the need to let ppl know what has happened if i may [04:59] Why my server crashing every 2-3 days? I am using just Samba on it.. === Passion [n=Gookeun@24.83.219.3] has joined #ubuntu [05:00] aww cool a linux version of part magic === jdermer [n=jdermer@200.14.239.76] has joined #ubuntu [05:00] nalioth: no. I have two other IDE drives and they are identical to the first entry I pasted. They mount just fine [05:00] nalioth, thanks [05:00] you too bob2 [05:00] mandriva's kernel update will cause you to lose ubuntu === reter [n=daisies@adsl-10-220-160.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:00] afaik, eruin: perhaps you could add comments to the bug here: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16129 - to let people know it's a real issue. [05:00] ok... [05:00] now to see if my drive actually detects thats the biggy brb [05:01] oblib: that is weird === AngryParsley [n=AngryPar@ool-457619d7.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu === tritium [n=michael@pcp0011975002pcs.sandia01.nm.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:01] I'm sorry to have bothered any of you. I find an answer elsewhere I guess. [05:01] bob2: you know when you install ubuntu from cd you can choose to enter 'server'. after you do that, how do you install the rest of the files? [05:01] ksmurf: have you filed a bug report? [05:01] I get this message during boot. Is worty worrying about? "VFS: Can't find ext3 filesystem on dev hda3." [05:01] reter: that's not the solution to whatever problem you're having === trans_err [n=trans_er@blacksburg-bsr1-24-53-134-247.chvlva.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:01] s/worty/worth/ [05:01] cfh_dev: that means you miscompiled your kernel [05:02] cfh_dev: oh, it finishes booting? [05:02] <_jason> how do I edit my places menu in gnome (hoary)? [05:02] still getting less then 100Kb [05:02] bob2, yep, everything runs fine [05:02] _jason: I think you just need to bookmark places in nautilus [05:02] Is it a bug? I have no idea how to explain an issue that is intermitant like that. [05:02] nalioth: thanks, I'm going to reboot and see if it works [05:02] cfh_dev: might just be the kernel trying to detect the filesystem type [05:02] bob2, hda3 is reiserfs which is /. The message doesn't seem to hinder anything [05:02] ksmurf: just explain it like you did above [05:02] what is the solution then bob2? [05:02] _jason: but don't bookmark too much, especially remote places, or you'll find your system start crawling) === remyforbes777 [n=remyforb@cpe-24-209-235-191.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:03] <_jason> dooglus: thanks, but I wanted to remove a link: for example "Desktop" [05:03] k....Thanks I bug it right now. [05:03] reter: to actually find out what the problem is, for a start [05:03] ksmurf: great, good luck [05:03] _jason: I don't know if you can. [05:03] reter: did you check if the CD was ok? [05:03] they may email you asking for a file like they did with me i think it was a file that kept track of errors [05:03] bob2: as far as i know the cd is ok === regeya [n=shane@dialup-4.159.59.140.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has joined #ubuntu === satafterh [n=robin@fctnnbsc15w-156034079009.nb.aliant.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:04] reter: did you check? === desidaerius504 [n=Kenneth@archon-216-68-45-118.fuse.net] has joined #ubuntu === Vaske_Car [n=opera@d36-72-47.home1.cgocable.net] has left #ubuntu [] [05:04] yes bob2 [05:04] may go to debian b/c of d/l speed :-/ [05:05] jknife: don't be silly [05:05] 60Kb!! compared to debian 300Kb [05:05] jknife: so use a different mirror, duh [05:05] or get a better ISP === spindley [i=spindley@S01060050ba5be146.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:05] even in Australia, I get 150KB/s from archive.ubuntu.com [05:05] i have... tried all us mirrors bout the same speed [05:06] that's unlikely to be a mirror problem then === Dethread [n=Dethread@wsp009979wss.netadm.calpoly.edu] has joined #ubuntu [05:06] thank you so much for your help bob2 [05:06] reter: ? [05:07] you've been a real assistance [05:07] anyone ever get hda lost interrupt [05:07] reter: you really checked the md5sum of the cd itself? [05:07] reter: stop being a gimp === gabaug [n=gabe@ppp-70-225-171-229.dsl.chmpil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:07] Fetched 4216kB in 54s (76.7kB/s) [05:08] bob2, to confirm once before i install - the chipset is plug and play, even under hoary? [05:08] lastnode: ? [05:08] lastnode: ubuntu includes the ipw2200 driver, yes [05:09] thanks, brb after install [05:09] is there an easy way to find out what drivers my wifi card is using? [05:09] ksmurf: dmesg and lsmod === Zaphod_ [n=Agrajag@66-215-172-61.dhcp.snbr.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:09] (ie not without external knowledge) [05:09] sweet thanks again for the help guys this is workinig perfectly === VictoRx [n=VictoR@CPE001310757639-CM000f9f7f0f78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:09] I know it's mad wifi so that will help === Travis|H [n=travis@68-187-95-204.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:11] forget them and their crap worth of oses [05:11] anyone here run electricsheep? === Draucon [n=Draucon@dialup-free-136.NMSU.Edu] has joined #ubuntu === nybble is now known as nybble_hawk [05:11] ksmurf: atheros probably, then [05:12] i installed knoppix on my hard drive and I am getting hda lost interrupt error [05:12] any ideas [05:12] hmm, i just installed colony 5 and I was wondering ... how do you enable font smoothing ... the ubuntuguide is still on 5.04 (makes sense seeing as 5.10 isn't final yet) .. but .. just wondering [05:12] linux-restricted-modules includes atheros(madwifi) module, right? [05:12] reter: #knoppix [05:12] alisher: yes [05:13] Travis|H: system -> preferences -> fonts [05:13] bah [05:13] remyforbes777: #knoppix, of course [05:13] if i remember right breezy "guide" should be in menu when released [05:13] !+find libXp.so [05:13] Updating ubuntu files... please wait. === TraceGreen [n=Trace@61.48.11.134] has joined #ubuntu [05:13] so its just knoppix [05:13] Ubuntu Search of 'libXp.so' (3 shown): (/usr/X11R6/lib/libXp.so) in libdevel/libxp-dev ;; (/usr/X11R6/lib/{libXp.so.6|libXp.so.6.2}) in libs/libxp6 ;; (/usr/X11R6/lib/debug/{libXp.so.6|libXp.so.6.2}) in libdevel/libxp6-dbg. [05:13] hmmm [05:13] remyforbes777: it has nothing to do with us [05:14] ahhh [05:14] gotcha === hosler [n=h0sl3r@cpe-68-206-129-175.jam.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:14] asking about distros in other distro's channels is kinda silly [05:14] and considered rude [05:15] Hello. Does anyone knows how to make amarok play CDs? === barosl [n=barosl@61.77.213.201] has joined #ubuntu [05:15] yep take a hammer to it [05:15] considered rude huh? === giard [n=tarish__@pool-151-199-96-170.roa.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:15] shows disrespect [05:15] remyforbes777, of course. This is an ubuntu channel. === trans_err [n=trans_er@blacksburg-bsr1-24-53-134-247.chvlva.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:16] I tried to install PEAR to use the DB.php function on my shared hosting server, but that didnt work. Is there an alternative to DB.php that doesnt require PEAR to be installed that I can use? [05:16] yay i found a ftp that gives me 200+Kb [05:16] does anyone know a *nix compatible alternative to Ashampoo Shrink & Burn? === Diskgrind [n=ken@CPE-24-163-216-250.mn.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === benplaut goes off to play some YSflight [05:16] RE: the wiki's restricted formats section, where it says to add the "debian-marillat" into the source.list, I do that and get an error on sudo apt-get update, anyone gimmie a sugestion? [05:17] brownie17, nope [05:17] wtf === Rylie [n=unnone@65-182-234-130.ccmtc.com] has joined #ubuntu === jsg_ [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu [05:17] #ubuntu-offtopic [05:17] breezy question: is there a guide to playing quicktime movies somewhere? [05:17] giard: lemme know if you find one, that's on my list of things I need to get working too :) === jsg_ is now known as jsgotangco [05:18] isn't there a quicktime for linux? [05:18] I have a problem; after updating Ubuntu, the lower panel doesnt show the minimized windows on the panel, I can alt tab them back but I cant see them in the lower panel anymore. [05:19] right mouse click and goto add to panel [05:19] anyone using ubuntu 64 [05:19] nope no quicktime for linux [05:19] and add window list [05:19] heh [05:19] Diskgrind, read my last 2 msgs === ztonzy [n=ztonzy@blender/artist/ztonzy] has joined #ubuntu [05:20] anyone run into a problem with evolution freezing on start in breezy? [05:20] Yes I got them.. thank you very much.. I thought something was wrong with the deal.. thanks!!!! [05:20] n/p === Zaphod_ [n=Agrajag@66-215-172-61.dhcp.snbr.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:20] noone using ubuntu 64 [05:21] remyforbes777, i HOPEFULLY will be by mid oct === oblib [n=oblib@156-130-13-204.erd.cust.wirelessbeehive.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:21] MadpilotPPC, what do you know about video files? i want to shrink one, it is a mpeg, 850mg. i want it less than 700. know any good software? [05:21] (gonna be upgrading my pc around the 10th) [05:21] trans_err: no [05:21] well i have tried installing it on my amd 64 turion based laptop and it freezes at login everytime [05:22] brownie17, umm.. i know of windows programs [05:22] One more question; after letting all the updates run and rebooting, I now have more choices in the grub loader and it doubled my windows XP choice, can I safely remove the older Ubuntu versions from the grub list? [05:22] nalioth: It didn't work -- it says it can't find the device or something [05:22] logs says that x is configured wrong, but can't tell what x setting is wrong [05:22] jknife, i had one, but through wine it didn't recognise my cd burner [05:22] brownie17, but any decent video editor you will be able to(just set the res to 320x200) [05:23] knoppix live cd runs x fine [05:23] or 320x240 [05:23] oblib: weird [05:23] jknife, well theres my problem isn't it? i don't have a video editor. i need one. know any programs for *nix? === audrey [n=audrey@202.43.175.105] has joined #ubuntu === jsg_ [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu [05:23] http://heroinewarrior.com/quicktime.php3 [05:24] Is there a file that records all of the messages it shows at boot? [05:24] yeah.. umm there is one called actorstudio(?) dont know if thats the right name but it comes with SuSE is how i found about it [05:24] http://freshmeat.net/projects/quicktimeforlinux/ [05:24] (its commerical) === matthew [n=matthew_@ip70-176-180-97.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:24] One more question; after letting all the updates run and rebooting, I now have more choices in the grub loader and it doubled my windows XP choice, can I safely remove the older Ubuntu versions from the grub list? or should I even do that? [05:24] oblib: dmesg === jsg_ is now known as jsgotangco [05:24] jknife, thanks === xuniluser [n=grifter@sili.adnu.edu.ph] has joined #ubuntu [05:24] np [05:25] (gotta close X need to free up resources) [05:25] trans_err: no, but I have run into firefox causing Xorg to use 800+Meg of ram and grinding the machine to a halt because it only have 256M ram and 768M swap [05:25] HELP: Can I burn a .iso file using nautilus? [05:25] thanks alex_f === linner [n=linner@71.243.221.228] has joined #ubuntu [05:25] use cddao === Phily [n=Phily@ip062.195-51-69.Sogetel.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [05:25] Have a good night all [05:26] xuniluser: yes, right click and burn image [05:26] does anyone here think walmart would cary a usb floppy drive? [05:26] yes epiloc === trs4ece [n=trs4ece@12-208-62-223.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:26] off to walmart i go [05:27] epiloc: yes, like $30-40 [05:27] epiloc, what else is open at this time for you? [05:27] wafflehouse :p [05:27] nothing i can think of [05:27] kmart [05:27] epiloc, wait tomorrow and go to a computer store [05:27] epiloc, you have wafflehouse? === kor [n=kor@d198-53-162-133.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:27] no not kmart [05:27] but electronics close early i thought [05:27] hey, how do we use those .deb files found in the ubuntu package search? [05:27] So my problem I think is that it tries to mount the serial ATA drive before it knows it's there. Is there somewhere I can tell manually to mount later in the boot process? [05:27] reter, why are you telling him to wait? [05:27] jorgp2: but it seems it can't locate the cd inside, eventhough after placing the blank cd, a new window opens... === karljp [n=karl@dsl-33.ln.netheimur.is] has joined #ubuntu === kor [n=kor@d198-53-162-133.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu === karljp [n=karl@dsl-33.ln.netheimur.is] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [05:28] if you have a frys around you go there they are the computer geeks homedepot === Spudz0r [n=matthew@2001:360:4009:0:211:50ff:fe66:1a59] has joined #ubuntu [05:28] xuniluser: close the new window [05:28] man, lubbock has no frys [05:28] i miss dallas === jsg_ [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu [05:28] hai everyone [05:29] i assume dallas texas [05:29] ok im off to wallyworld, i HAVE to get this laptop running [05:29] i use to live in austin [05:29] hmm, is anyone able to add this radio station to Rhythmbox http://64.236.34.97:80/stream/1039 ............ when I attempt to play this back I get "unexpected end of stream" === jsg_ is now known as jsgotangco [05:29] as do i with all other stations im trying to add [05:29] anyone in ohio [05:29] Travis|H, just curious have you tried it with xmms? === NaVi [n=FhaeTon@adsl-68-72-87-211.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:30] xuniluser: still it asks for a blank cd [05:30] I'm across the river in KY remy [05:30] oh yeah, im in cincinnati, what part of ky? [05:30] jorgp2: still it asks for a blank cd [05:30] Anyone know how to add a manual mount later in the boot process? [05:30] florence/union [05:30] remyforbes777, you around wooster or miamisburg dayton? [05:30] desidaerius504: remyforbes777 in #ubuntu-offtopic please [05:30] delltony: i don't have xmms installed, i'll try [05:31] would anyone be able to help me... i've installed ubuntu 5.04 on my new laptop and got everything working, apart from my battery monitor... when i do 'cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1/state' all i get is 'present: yes, ERROR Unable to read battery status', can anyone help me? [05:31] sorry [05:31] well xmms to me is the winamp of linux [05:31] yea, i used itunes in windows .. and rhythmbox seems to be the itunes of linux :) [05:31] nalioth can you help me? [05:31] oblib: with what? === Traum [n=Traum@S010600e0989ee118.wp.shawcable.net] has left #ubuntu [] [05:32] well i always play shoutcast streams and xmms is all i could find that worked for me [05:32] bah, no XMMS for breezy either [05:32] i bet amarok would work with shoutcast [05:32] yeah there is [05:32] jorgp2: it says Insert Blank Disc === krisg [i=krisg@210.213.141.48] has joined #ubuntu [05:32] which repo? [05:32] i'm using it :) [05:32] hang on let me find out [05:32] how do you configure x? [05:33] nalioth: is it worth using ubuntu and than installing kubuntu on other drive? instead of mixing the 2 [05:33] nalioth I think I just need to put a manual mount command later in the boot process, after it has recognized the serialATA drive. Can I do that? === hector_acosta [n=hector@cablelink37-158.intercable.net] has joined #ubuntu === Zaphod_ is now known as Agrajag [05:33] Travis|H how came no xmms for breezu [05:33] hmm i thought apt-cache show showed the repository === nerdcore [n=nerdcore@cable-62-21.sssnet.com] has joined #ubuntu === omp [n=david@66-215-19-141.dhcp.gldl.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:34] boxerboy29: (k)ubuntu are the same animal underneath. only the interface is different [05:34] i dunno i have universe and multiverse in my sources === matthew [n=matthew_@ip70-176-180-97.ph.ph.cox.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [05:34] backports seems to not work [05:34] pool/main/x/xmms/xmms_1.2.10+cvs20050209-2ubuntu2_i386.deb [05:34] i can post my source.list if you want === uglysmurf [n=uglysmur@64.178.96.148.dynamic.dejazzd.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:34] yea just /msg it to me [05:34] Travis|H xmms isnt in Universe [05:35] ill paste bin it [05:35] alisher: where is it? [05:35] yeah i know but there are things i enjoy using kde for and im really getting tired of getting ubuntu screwed up by redhat/redora/and mandriva === war-totem [n=lightbri@CPE0040052e5c4c-CM0f1029953548.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu === Traum [n=Traum@S010600e0989ee118.wp.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu === hud [n=hud@71-11-144-108.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu === jsg_ [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu [05:35] I think main or restricted [05:35] i don't suppose someone could answer a quick question about GRUB on Ubuntu? [05:35] http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=xmms&searchon=names&subword=1&version=breezy&release=all [05:35] Are there other cd burning programs for ubuntu aside from nautilus? === drbrown [n=chatzill@user-0cdvefr.cable.mindspring.com] has left #ubuntu [] === Traum [n=Traum@S010600e0989ee118.wp.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:35] http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/376470 [05:35] there you go [05:36] Seveas: you here? [05:36] thanks dell [05:36] np [05:36] xuniluser: gnomebaker and k3b [05:36] xuniluser: k3b = <3 [05:36] oh and travis you running it on a lappy? === evian [n=dude@d149-67-55-168.col.wideopenwest.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:36] i need help, i was trying to compile a program, and i got the following error: No package 'gtk+-2.0' found [05:36] Travis|H xmms is in main [05:37] Amaranth: thanks [05:37] nalioth, is that a bug in the program? ^^^ [05:37] Toma: thanks [05:37] alisher how do you determine that in aptitude? or is there a way [05:37] is there a utility i can use to automatically reconfigure GRUB? when I have it load windows it just hangs, and i would rather not go manually configure it.... [05:37] brownie17: compiling usually needs the -dev packages of everything u need to compile with [05:37] brownie17: no its a lapse in your installing skillz. install libgtk-dev [05:38] just get the deb :( [05:38] nalioth, i have no illusions of grandure, but i do not follow. what is the ? === hilarius [n=multifar@cpe-71-65-46-229.indy.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === vladuz976 [n=vladuz97@pool-71-106-208-30.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:39] brownie17: is my memory doesnt tell me what numbers go there === ryufreak [n=steve@63-135-238-112.customers.tbdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu === desidaerius504 [n=Kenneth@archon-216-68-45-118.fuse.net] has left #ubuntu [] [05:39] i need a bunch of help! [05:39] i can't figure out how to get access to my other hard drive :( [05:40] i noticed in expert mode you can use the option "desktop" to install and i guess it sets up different partions for / and /boot what is the advantage of that as to having it in one like with default installation? === MaTaKs [i=start@203.177.243.129] has joined #ubuntu [05:40] can anyone help me? === dreamwave [n=dreamwav@vnnyca-cuda1-cablebdl-70-34-243-160.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:41] ryufreak, what type of hdd is it? as in ntfs fat32? [05:41] What do I have to do to use packages? I've downloaded a couple and they each have two tar files and a debian-binary but I don't know what to do with 'em. [05:41] how do you reconfigure x? [05:41] hi. just got my new hard drive in the mail. i plan to install a dual boot system to it. should i install xp first? === Spudz0r [n=matthew@2001:360:4009:0:211:50ff:fe66:1a59] has left #ubuntu ["gah...] [05:41] fat32 === csthepoet [n=cynthia@adsl-149-76-246.mia.bellsouth.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [05:41] how many drives in he system? [05:41] 2 [05:41] reter: what do u need to do? [05:41] dreamwave, most definitely [05:41] thanks [05:41] more than likely its hdc [05:41] Toma-: my gnome is not working. i want to try to configure it [05:41] ? [05:42] gnome and X are 2 different things... === Hmmmm [n=Hmmmm@221.135.51.18] has joined #ubuntu [05:42] but you can try doing a fdisk -l /dev/hdc === omp [n=david@66-215-19-141.dhcp.gldl.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:42] yea the stream works peachy in XMMS :( [05:42] and see if it looks lie the drive [05:42] gah stupid rhythmbox [05:42] u sure its X u need to fix or gnome? [05:42] in terminal? === amep [n=amp@user-12lcgki.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:42] tome: dont know [05:43] hi guys i need some help configuring X on my friend's machine [05:43] bash: -l: command not found [05:43] Travis|H, rhythmbox is great [05:43] !tell ryufreak about windowsdrives [05:43] ah come on guys, it can't be that hard to use these packages, even a URL to a site explaining what to do would help [05:43] if so then 1) sudo mkdir /media/myfat32 2) chmod 777 /media/fat32 3) sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hdc /media/myfat32 [05:43] he has an intel 82845G grpahics card and a compaq s700 monitor === qmanman [n=ryan@adsl-69-108-217-16.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:43] smb shares not showing up, even at smb://127.0.0.1 ...it recognizes that smb is up and running, but it's not realizing any shares...anyone? [05:43] brownie: yea i can't get it to playback a shoutcast stream [05:43] i cant get beyong 800x600@16 bit [05:44] Hmmmm: register your nick and type /msg ubotu fixres [05:44] can someone suggest some solution to go 1026@24 bit? [05:44] reter: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep (EE) [05:44] i'm trying to add http://64.236.34.97:80/stream/1039 as a radio station and it won't play .. says "Stream Error Unexpected end of stream" .. but it plays back just fine in XMMS [05:44] reter: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep "(EE)" [05:44] aww so xmms did work [05:44] yep [05:44] trs4ece, thanks, am taking al ook at the site [05:44] what does that return? [05:44] sudo mkdir /media/myfat32, i did that and it asked for pw, i entered, i'm guessing that detected it? === bus01 [n=bus01@202.78.92.115] has joined #ubuntu [05:44] yeah i never had luck with rythm myself so i gave up [05:45] i guess xmms uses gtk1? heh menus are hideous === nerdcore [n=nerdcore@cable-62-21.sssnet.com] has left #ubuntu [] [05:45] delltony: read what ubotu just sent you please, you'll find a lot easier way to help folks [05:45] Hmmmm: you need to add the resultion to xorg.conf [05:45] yeah was reading it just now and thanks [05:45] libtagc0 is not in the repo for breezy? [05:45] toma: no such file or directory [05:46] question: Ubuntu does not mount my serial ATA drive during boot and returns an error that it cannot find the device (it is in fstab). I think that it is trying to mount it before it recognizes the serial ATA. Does anyone know how I can fix this? === philc [n=reformis@pcp0010434810pcs.hyatsv01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:46] I feel like a broken record, has anybody here ever used packages downloaded from the ubuntu website and if so, hwo do you install them? [05:46] reter: u using xorg? [05:46] hey nalioth you happen to know when firefox will be stable in breezy? it crashes like a drunk on friday night :) [05:46] delltony: if you find reproducible crashes, please do file bugs [05:46] delltony: sadly, removing your profile often helps [05:47] toma: apprently not [05:47] anyone use rezound sound editor? [05:47] gosh. well i dunno the file name :/ === spindley [i=spindley@S01060050ba5be146.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:47] oh really thats something i will try but it happens on java enabled sites mostly [05:47] even though the offical sun java is installed and is working per their test page [05:47] reter: check your x seve log for (EE) messages [05:47] *server === Traum [n=Traum@S010600e0989ee118.wp.shawcable.net] has left #ubuntu [] [05:47] oh, java [05:48] yeah i know you don't have to tell me ;) [05:48] if you're using non-free plugins, you need to talk to whoever made them, mostly [05:48] trs4ece, use dpkg -i whatever.deb [05:48] woo hoo!! [05:48] 100% downloaded [05:49] evian: thank you! I'm off to do some installing now :-) [05:49] great [05:49] it was a warez pack...10 gigz of warez :P [05:49] just kidding... freebsd cds [05:50] how can i make a debian *.deb file usable for ubuntu? === Diskgrind [n=ken@CPE-24-163-216-250.mn.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === war-totem [n=lightbri@CPE0040052e5c4c-CM0f1029953548.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:50] vladuz976: you can't, generally === amep [n=amp@user-12lcgki.cable.mindspring.com] has left #ubuntu [] [05:50] vladuz976: normally rebuilding the debian source on ubuntu is enough [05:51] Toma-, the thing is that the entry for 1024@24 bit is there in xorg. but the damn thing doesnt accpet it [05:51] bob2, but i need this one package and it's not available in breezy yet [05:51] it already is [05:51] ubuntu uzez debs [05:51] s/debs/debz [05:51] vladuz976: and the package is... [05:51] so i just did this winmac_fstab, and i still can't figure out how to go into the other hard drive [05:51] bob2, libtagc0 [05:51] Hmmmm: u using the right defaultdepth? [05:51] How do I add a program to run every time I boot? [05:51] vladuz976: why do you need it? [05:52] bob2, for enlightenment wm [05:52] e16 doesn't need that === hondje [n=hondje@c-67-164-224-228.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:52] bob2, e17 does [05:52] how can i use mv to change the name of a directory? [05:52] vladuz976: use ubuntu stuff, or compile [05:52] MaTaKs: no need to /msg me [05:52] ryufreak do you understand how to mount drives? [05:52] BROKEN_LADDER: mv foo bar [05:52] ryufreak: look in /media [05:52] Why is that my gnomebaker and nautilus can't detect a cd inside my burner? [05:53] bob2 that says "cannot copy foo into subdirectory bar" [05:53] i think he pm'ed the whole channel... [05:53] nalioth, what do you mean by "ubuntu" stuff? i compile === mikhail^ [n=mikhail@210.5.118.75] has joined #ubuntu [05:53] i mean my cdrom writer [05:53] vladuz976: if you're compiling it, you need the -dev package [05:53] bob2 i don't want to copy foo into bar. i want to change the name [05:53] bob2, can't even find that [05:53] BROKEN_LADDER: show us the actual command you ran [05:53] mv coldplay COLDPLAY [05:53] http://www.wamu.com/personal/default.asp [05:53] err.. [05:53] MaTaKs: yes its good...? [05:53] mv: cannot move `coldplay' to a subdirectory of itself, `COLDPLAY/coldplay' [05:53] mmm lovely walmart [05:54] BROKEN_LADDER: that won't work on fat32 [05:54] could this be because the fs is fat 32? === hejux [n=hejux@218.3.94.65] has joined #ubuntu [05:54] yes [05:54] Can I have Gnome AND Kde and be able to choose one or the other at boot? [05:54] doh! [05:54] it's case-insensitive [05:54] bob2 some directories on this drive or caps and some are lowercase. [05:54] mv coldplay blah ; mv blah COLDPLAY [05:54] Diskgrind: yes. u get to choose at login [05:54] BROKEN_LADDER: yes, fat32 handles it in a moronic way === billytwowilly [n=chris@S0106000c413a2c0c.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:54] BROKEN_LADDER: it stores the case, but doesn't let files differ only in case [05:54] How do I do the choice? [05:54] bob2, is libtagc0-dev in the repo? i can't find it [05:55] hi ,i got a wrong messege on booting :failed to allocate mem resource 0X0xxx-xxX0000(some num. like this [05:55] vladuz976: strange, I have libtagc0 in breezy, why you dont? [05:55] Diskgrind: ure using gdm or kdm? its on the login screen, click around till u find it [05:55] my os is ubuntu 5.10 pre. [05:55] nlioth: that worked thanks [05:55] vladuz976: yes, it's in breezy [05:55] Toma how do I find that? [05:55] alisher, bob2 don't know just installed breezy from iso === Samhain [n=shane24@CPE-72-128-84-192.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:56] toma oh at the username and password part/ [05:56] is there a way to automatically recreate the xorg.conf file? [05:56] vladuz976: ok, but it is in in breezy, in universe [05:56] Diskgrind: u know where u login with your user and pass? its there [05:56] Diskgrind: yes. [05:56] Samhain: what did you do to it? === SiRrUs [n=SiRrUs@toronto-HSE-ppp4052601.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu [05:56] vladuz976: it is in Universe or Multiverse, enable them [05:56] nalioth: that's a smooth script, but still doesn't help my serial ATA problem [05:56] bob2, if i enable universe i get errors [05:56] vladuz976: edit /etc/apt/sources.list [05:56] toma thank you I will try that. So Ubuntu can have booth GUI's? [05:56] yeah, I thought I copied it for a backup, then I deleted it. There was no copy :-\ [05:56] omp, i did but then apt-get gives errors [05:56] vladuz976: perhaps showing them to us instaed of ignoring them would work better? [05:56] Samhain: don't ever delete config files from /etc/ [05:56] bob2, ok [05:56] oblib: well i guess a rewrite is in order, eh? [05:56] well, too late [05:56] Toma-, I tried using 24 bit as defaultdepth, but X mombed on me [05:56] vladuz976: sudo apt-get update === trans_err [n=trans_er@blacksburg-bsr1-24-53-134-247.chvlva.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:57] bob2 ,do you know whats the reason ? [05:57] Toma What do most people use? I am new at this... [05:57] vladuz976: did you apt-get update after it? [05:57] Samhain: sudo dpkg -P --force-depends xserver-org ; sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg [05:57] doesn't matter too much, I can just re-install [05:57] i'll try that [05:57] thanks [05:57] nalioth: Nah, it does what it's supposed to I would guess. I'm thinking my SATA is just special [05:57] i got a wrong messege on booting :failed to allocate mem resource 0X0xxx-xxX0000(some num. like this) [05:58] toma Thanks === narg [n=knoppix@dsl-63-173-190-171.tcq.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:58] Hmmmm: whatd it say? [05:58] bob2, ok this is odd, before my update, enabling gave me errors, now after updating it's fine. so i guess libtagc0 should be ok now [05:58] So I'm attempting to copy an iso off a cd by doing cp /dev/cdrom1 myiso.iso, but I get cp: reading `/dev/cdrom1': Input/output error [05:58] scratched cd? [05:59] vladuz976: after editing sources.list you have to apt-get update :P [05:59] vladuz976: or else you'll get errors :D === Dr_Willis [i=willis@12-222-81-183.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:59] narg: or dodge drive [05:59] vladuz976: or if in Synaptic you have to click reload [05:59] I hard a hard time installing my x800xl with ubuntu, so I used my 6600gt, is there a way for me to install my x800xl? [05:59] omp, yeah i know, thanks, but that was when i got the error. it said something like "can't read" some and then the url for the listing in sources.list [05:59] narg: 'dd if=/dev/cdrom of=./foo.img' may work better [05:59] would being on knoppix have any effect? (ubuntu isnt bootable atm) === Strife [n=mdepalat@rrcs-24-173-73-254.sw.biz.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:59] ok [05:59] Hmmmm: u trying to use the standard drivers to get a decent resolution? coz it doesnt work... [05:59] I'll try that === skopii [n=john@pigs1.midphase.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:00] is anyone aware of a tool that lets you monitor ink level and do alignment for HP printers? [06:00] bob2, thanks for the help [06:00] Why isnt Banshee available in hoary? [06:00] hi, is there a ubuntu repostory w/ mplayer? [06:00] I somehow deleted the xserver. I said it was not installed === nicholaspaul [n=nickpaul@d198-53-138-13.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:00] I don't remember doing that === gigaclon [n=gigaclon@68.191.5.12] has joined #ubuntu [06:00] skopii: multiverse/backports. Not sure which [06:00] jrattner1: did it exist in Debian in februry? [06:01] jrattner1: nbnashee is in Universe or multiverse [06:01] skopii: multiverse [06:01] thanks narg [06:01] thanks bob2 [06:01] Samhain: er, read again what command I told you to run [06:01] its says its not available on the wiki [06:01] is there multiverse for breezy? [06:01] vladuz976, yes. [06:01] there is === Dethread [n=Dethread@24-205-238-53.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:01] of course there is === freeflying [n=rockie@61.190.65.16] has joined #ubuntu [06:02] Toma-, ok lemme try it again [06:02] Dr_Willis, where can i find out what repos i can add to my sources. list in breezy? [06:02] alisher, Banshee works well with ipods i hear [06:02] vladuz976: the same ubuntu.com repositories as hoary [06:02] no clue.. i would guess the wiki's and forums are the place to start. [06:02] jrattner1 never used:( [06:02] i just added in multiverse after the lines that say 'universe' i think :P [06:03] bob2, right now after install i only have universe in my list [06:03] is the backports repisotory broken? [06:03] Travis|H: talk to the backports people [06:03] none of them appear to use irc or email [06:03] vladuz976: you have to add multiverse, it isnt oficially supported === gigaclon [n=gigaclon@68.191.5.12] has joined #ubuntu [06:03] awesome [06:03] alisher, where can i find available stuff to add? [06:03] alisher, i dont see banshee in universe [06:04] Travis|H: If you were using one of the bad unofficial backports repos then yes, they are down and will stay down. === NeoFax is away: Away at the moment === NeoFax is now known as NeoFax-Away [06:04] jrattner1: maybe it is in multiverse [06:04] NeoFax-Away: please turn that off [06:04] !backports [06:04] Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list. More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports [06:04] I am not sure I have them all enabled, and i see banshee [06:04] yea .. im on breezy though .. probally just a matter of that [06:04] ah [06:05] you don't need the backports then, there is nothing to backport === bob2 hoeps backports become better quality or less popular during breezy === loorni [i=kumiseta@addr-213-216-219-180.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu === mahangu [n=mahangu@220.247.229.10] has joined #ubuntu [06:05] whats the command to update X? [06:06] jrattner1: it is in universe, did you du sudo apt-get update? === esac [n=esac@unaffiliated/esac] has joined #ubuntu [06:06] alisher, im using synaptic === karljp [n=karl@dsl-33.ln.netheimur.is] has joined #ubuntu [06:06] click "reload" after enabled universe === KingBahamut [n=bahamut@c-24-98-229-28.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === Diskgrind [n=ken@CPE-24-163-216-250.mn.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === nbcmayhem [n=nbcmayhe@p548090B4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu [06:07] everything in my sources.list is enabled, isn't there some website that shows what to add to the list for multiverse? [06:07] alisher, its already enabled === Ricesteam [n=rice@Toronto-HSE-ppp3879607.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu [06:07] then click Reload and search banshee [06:07] alisher, comes up with nothing [06:07] vladuz976: you don't need one [06:07] vladuz976: just add the multiverse after universe === prc [n=prc@pcp04417048pcs.losala01.nm.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:08] or... you have Hoary? [06:08] Anyone have problems printing with evince? [06:08] in breezy === davix_ [n=lama@85-64-146-117.barak-online.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:08] bob2, can you paste your sources.list somewhere so i can see it? === Oris [n=kf13@pool-71-103-170-230.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:08] nanshee is in breezy only [06:08] vladuz976: no [06:08] Am i on Ubuntu support channel? [06:08] alisher, see thats what i was saying === abarbaccia_ [n=abarbacc@69-162-20-65.stcgpa.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:08] maybe it is in backports then [06:08] Oris: it's called #ubuntu... [06:08] I use breezy, am not sure [06:08] I'm using Hoary and I need libmp4v2. It is not availible via apt. What should I do? [06:08] vladuz976: add the word multiverse after universe [06:08] :))) Just checking :) [06:09] I have a problem.. Just installed Ubuntu(right now in Windows) === karljp [n=karl@dsl-33.ln.netheimur.is] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [06:09] bob2, "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse" like that? [06:09] gah ok .. 3 packages i seem to have lost access to when jumping to Breezy ......... azureus, limewire, and w32codecs ...... where did they go? [06:09] I installed Ubuntu and am using the Gnome Interface, can install Kde as well and use them both?? [06:09] how do i add a new module to be loaded on boot ? (i.e., i installed a wireless card driver, did modprobe ipw2200, it worked, and now i want it to always modprobe at boot) [06:09] Diskgrind: yes === Samhain` [n=shane24@CPE-72-128-84-192.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:10] vladuz976: yup, exactly [06:10] Diskgrind: yes. apt-get install kde-desktop [06:10] i think [06:10] w32codecs --> http://www.giannaros.org/tor/bt/ [06:10] not sure about the others. [06:10] Travis|H: they were never in ubuntu [06:10] w32codecs has been taken off backports [06:10] Travis|H: they were in random other repositories you used to use [06:10] refer to Dr_Willis link [06:10] Diskgrind: install kubuntu-desktop and you can choose the different environments from the login screen [06:10] Can someone try printing a PDF from evince and tell me if you get junk for output? [06:10] I'm using Hoary and I need libmp4v2. It is not availible via apt. What should I do? [06:10] indeed. [06:10] When(in Grub) i start Linux Ubuntu, it starts loading and then "Critical Temperature was reached..." HOW DO I CHANGE THE CRITICAL SHUTDOWN TEMP? I can't get in OS [06:10] esac: you know ubuntu includes the ipw2200 driver, right? [06:10] try synaptic and search for it [06:10] bob2, thanks. but still isn't there something that explains all these repos? some website? [06:10] k i assume azureus and limewire were also part of backports i take it [06:11] Oris: check your cpu fan is working [06:11] Travis|H: I know at least w32codecs isn't in hoary-extras anymore either for legal reasons. (It's flatout illegal in any country with copyright law) [06:11] Diskgrind: you'll also get the option of changing over to kdm at that time; I wholeheartedly recommend it. [06:11] vladuz976: /msg ubotu repository [06:11] I already installed Ubuntu I do have the Kubuntu disk as well how can I get both GUI's ? === Sonny_Wertzik [n=Sonny_We@ip24-250-11-28.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:11] Jack_B, I did, and it's not there [06:11] vladuz976, try www.ubuntuguide.com [06:11] bob2: i had to compile it because i am running the 2.6.13.2 kernel (because my laptop would hang when powering off or rebooting) [06:11] yikes. [06:11] Amaranth, the new gnome-bt is really good, an not feature bloated like Azureaus [06:11] Diskgrind: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" [06:11] is how === alex_f [n=alexf@ppp-69-216-38-11.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has left #ubuntu [".evolutio"] [06:11] Diskgrind: install kubuntu-desktop [06:11] Toma - it works, i know i always have a high temperature(~60) [06:11] Diskgrind: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop [06:11] that's all [06:11] khermans: err [06:11] esac: if it's installed correctly, hotplug will load it magically [06:11] Diskgrind: I'm running kubuntu-desktop, and that's how I did it. [06:11] once again, im having DNS problems [06:11] bob2: ok, thanks [06:12] works great [06:12] prc: go to command and type in sudo apt-get update [06:12] Oris: its in your bios. probably under PC health/status option [06:12] anybody here use fluxbox with hoary? [06:12] this has randomly popped its ugly head up again [06:12] prc, that should update the list of packages available [06:12] Amaranth, why not use it? [06:12] bob2: now i just have to get the ati driver to work :) [06:12] khermans: I think you wanted to talk to Travis|H [06:12] if that doesn't work you'll have to edit your source list and add more repositories [06:13] the reason i like Azureus is it has support for RSS feeds [06:13] it's useful for getting IPTV shows automatically [06:13] Hello. Does anyone knows how to make amarok play CDs? === NeoFax-Away [n=terry@c-24-10-109-222.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu ["Konversation] [06:13] Toma- I put in command line and it is installing now.. We will see how that works out.. Thanks guys!!! [06:13] anybody want to recommend a C compiler with a gui for linux? [06:14] Jack_B, I updated and searched the cache, and nothing shows up. Is there any other way to safely get a library? [06:14] C compiler with a GUi.... o_0 [06:14] ? [06:14] Travis|H: What is IPTV? [06:14] Travis|H: Nevermind. === chavo [n=chavo@26.sub-70-196-51.myvzw.com] has joined #ubuntu === packman_e [n=packman_@i-83-67-28-242.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:14] What do most people use as far as GUI's?? [06:14] gnome [06:14] gnome or kde [06:14] Diskgrind, whatever they feel like. :P [06:14] kde [06:14] Jack_B, My source list has everything Hoary has to offer, as far as I know [06:15] or neither... or like me - use both. [06:15] Jack_B: no useful C compiler has a GUI [06:15] ubuntu has gnome by default [06:15] if im feeling sassy, i use enlightenment [06:15] I see this IRC channel is not helpful... No one answers my question. [06:15] Jack_B: you mean like kdevelop? === herfo [n=friendly@ppp121-3.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:15] Jack_B: you're looking for an IDE, I take it? [06:15] lol [06:15] bob2: ahh ok [06:15] Oris: that's an awesome attitude [06:15] ok ..ok [06:15] anybody here use fluxbox with hoary? [06:15] funny [06:15] lol.. [06:15] Oris: i answered. [06:15] scroll up :/ [06:15] prc: sorry i can't help you any further, i'm a noob too [06:15] I wrote you in private... === grAce17 [n=rdel_q@203.115.184.38] has joined #ubuntu [06:15] prc: try asking the mods [06:15] Amaranth: it's basically just "web shows" .. there's one called Systm, one called OpenAlpha.tv, one called Command.N, one called Digital Life TV [06:16] no u didnt [06:16] most private msgs get ignored. due to all the spam bots lately. :P [06:16] private wont work is your nick isnt registered [06:16] Jack_B, who are the mods? [06:16] nalioth: can i get kdevelop through synaptic [06:16] Toma.. Do you get my messages? Ok - you write me something [06:16] if [06:16] question: Ubuntu does not mount my serial ATA drive during boot and returns an error that it cannot find the device (it is in fstab). I think that it is trying to mount it before it recognizes the serial ATA. Does anyone know how I can fix this? === davix_ [n=lama@85-64-146-117.barak-online.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:16] oblib, interesting.. does 'fdisk -l' show the device? [06:16] OK can someont tell me if the new fluxbox works with hoary? [06:16] prc: only seveas is online right now, trying asking other more experienced people [06:16] the bulk of the IPTV shows are released under the creative commons licence and a lot use bittorrent as the sole method of distribution to cut down on bandwidth costs .. [06:16] sorry guys, while following the ubuntu faq i am told to put in this repository 'deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted'. unfortunately i get errors any ideas on how to solve it please? [06:17] would there be a way for me to get my x800xl to work? [06:17] advantage with Azureus is that it's able to monitor an RSS feed and automatically startup a transfer when a new episode is available [06:17] Toma - i saw your message, don't you see mines? [06:17] breezy backports? from what? [06:17] nope? [06:17] i can only run in 6600gt [06:17] packman_e: er, no, what url "told you to do that"? [06:17] Ok... [06:17] http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/ch02.html [06:17] Toma-: so install it... [06:17] What do you suggest me to do? What's in my BIOS? [06:17] chapter 2 [06:17] how very quirky. [06:17] bah [06:17] Seveas, I need a library that is not availible through apt. I have Hoary. Is there any other way to safely install a library? [06:18] thank 4 the tip bob2 :P [06:18] ? [06:18] prc: what do you need the library for? [06:18] Travis|H: so install it [06:18] bob2, gtkpod === holycow [n=a@S0106000fb51e6051.vf.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:19] Toma - is there a way how i can change trip points from WINDOWS? to change critical temp. [06:19] Toma- what display manager should I choose??? gdm or kdm? [06:19] has anybody got their wireless card working with a Microsoft Radius server (including certificate authentication) ? [06:19] prc: gtkpod is in ubuntu already [06:19] Diskgrind, stick with gdm [06:19] Dr_Willis: yes === petitohaime| [i=MTP@dyn-83-157-231-116.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #ubuntu [06:19] definetely gdm [06:19] Oris: nope. its a bios 'feature' [06:19] ok gdm it is.. [06:19] oblib, if fdisk -l shows it.. check your fstab entry - it may just be wrong. [06:19] bob2, it is in chapter 2 of the ubuntu faq quide [06:19] What is a BIOS feature? [06:19] bob2, I know and I have it, but it requires libmp4v2 to read aac files [06:19] Diskgrind: go with whatever your heart tells you. === esac wants to get a bootsplash screen working. === geckosalive [n=CoolHerp@ip24-251-218-8.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu === Fred|Fr3d [n=fred@81-86-149-249.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:20] Oris: its a thing the bios does. [06:20] lol [06:20] packman_e: you mean "the unofficial ubuntu guide"? [06:20] Dr_Willis: I can mount just fine once I'm in Ubuntu. fstab says :/dev/sda1 /win/f ntfs auto,nls=utf8,umask=0222 0 0 [06:20] are you trying to be funny? Toma- [06:20] lol [06:20] trying :( [06:20] esac: that will be a pain in the arse with a custom kernel === niran [n=niran@niran.Stanford.EDU] has joined #ubuntu [06:20] Toma - can BIOS change linux files? ahem.. [06:20] hey, im not seeing a list of system requirements on the site, is there somewhere i can find a list? [06:20] packman_e: do you use breezy or hoary? [06:20] Oris: ...possibly? [06:21] bob2: can't i just grab an initramfs from a running system and just use it on mine? [06:21] i think hoary, 5.04 === hosler [n=h0sl3r@cpe-68-206-129-175.jam.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [06:21] esac: none of the modules inside it will work with your custom kernel [06:21] packman_e: right, ignore it then [06:21] geckosalive: system requirements for hoary? [06:21] bob2, any suggestions? [06:21] packman_e: than replace breezy with hoary [06:21] ubuntu === whyameye [n=whyameye@ip68-102-30-153.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu === BurgerMann [n=burgerma@0x3e42a174.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu [06:22] geckosalive, try googling it [06:22] okay [06:22] Toma: i need to run command like echo "70:70:70:70:65:40" > path/to/trip_points file [06:22] prc: eh? libmp4v2-0 is in multiverse. [06:22] oh you wanna mess with /proc? [06:22] any ideas Dr_Willis? [06:22] alisher: please don't give bad advice like that [06:22] Toma: and i can't get in linux.. [06:22] bob2, for Hoary? [06:22] packman_e: just don't include any backport lines at aall [06:22] Toma: YES! [06:22] Toma: :) [06:22] prc: no idea [06:23] Oris: youre bios controls when to shutdown the CPU.... [06:23] oblib, mine mount fine. I dont recall having that 'auto' option in the fstab however [06:23] sweet changing it to hoary seemed to work [06:23] packman_e: that is a mistake [06:23] prc: no [06:23] it is? [06:23] prc: dowsn't look like building the breezy source on haory would be very hard, tho [06:23] packman_e: yes [06:23] Oris: cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/trip_points [06:23] Toma: No-no... Hmm.. Why then it doesn't shut me down when i'm in Windows and my temp gets to 70? [06:23] what's the firewall on ubuntu called? [06:23] Dr_Willis: nalioth had me put it in [06:23] Jack_B: there isn't one, by default [06:23] oblib, /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1 ntfs ro,user 0 2 [06:24] so what should i do [06:24] oblib, is what i use. [06:24] bob2, can I do that without erasing everything on my machine? === geckosalive [n=CoolHerp@ip24-251-218-8.ph.ph.cox.net] has left #ubuntu [] [06:24] Dr_Willis: do you know how I could add a manual mount command later in the boot process? I think the SATA is the last thing the boot does before it's done [06:24] bob2, ok time to get ipchains then [06:24] prc: sure, it's like 4 commands [06:24] Oris: i dont wanna give u bad advice... ive never tinkered with thermal settings. im too scared to melt my cpu. try google or someone else [06:24] Jack_B: no, ipchains has been dead since about 2000 [06:24] Jack_B: try firestarter [06:24] packman_e: you dont need any backports to use hoary [06:24] bob2, ok thanks [06:25] bob2, great. I'll give it a shot [06:25] Dr_Willis: Do you know what the 0 2 does at the end? [06:25] thanks === Samhain [n=shane24@CPE-72-128-84-192.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:25] oblib, Hmm... not sure - could out the sata modules in the /etc/modules file - so they get loaed earlier perhaps === paulproteu1 is now known as paulproteus [06:25] alisher, i was just following the quide [06:25] oblib, i forget. :P [06:25] can probably break sth or make your upgrade to breezy later dtroublesom [06:25] *guide* [06:25] bob2, hehehe i got this linux book and was just reading up on ipchains [06:25] prc: add breezy deb-src line for multiverse to /etc/apt/sources.list. sudo apt-get build-dep libmp4v2. apt-get source -b libmp4v2. install resulkting .debs [06:25] Toma: yeah i've done that on SuSE.. But know to change that termal_points file i need at least GET IN UBUNTU os.. Or is there a way how i can run that command from windows? [06:26] *now [06:26] Dr_Willis: "could out" ? [06:26] hmmm [06:27] Toma: cause it shuts me down - i haven't been in OS itself at all... [06:27] put :P [06:27] Where can I see my CPU load? [06:27] why doesnt totem try to download the relevant dvd codes for me? [06:27] lol [06:27] Oris: do u know how hot your cpu is running? [06:27] How can you see your cpu temp? [06:27] hmm.. why should totem download stuff for ya >:P [06:27] or load? [06:28] Dr_Willis: would that be module sbp2 or sr_mod? [06:28] Diskgrind, several dozen tools can do that. 'sensors' from the shell shows temps. [06:28] Toma: right now 58 - it's about my normal temp(i know it's hot but it runs for a long time like this without problems.) [06:28] hmm [06:28] and it shuts down at that temp? :/ [06:28] oblib, not sure. put them both in the modules file. :P [06:29] mine runs at 65... and the trip point on linux is 90 [06:29] Toma: it says "Temp reached(61) this is the one i saw and then "power goes down" [06:29] weird [06:29] Dr_Willis: those are the modules that are there. Does altering the order change things? === _tester_ [n=yz@216.238.204.173] has joined #ubuntu [06:29] Toma: that's what i want my trip points to set on - 90's [06:29] Dr_Willis where do I find sensors at? [06:29] oblib, i wouldent think so, [06:30] Oris: try acpi=off at the bootline [06:30] Diskgrind, its a text command. use it from the shell - if its not installed its part of the 'lm-sensors' package [06:30] why does mplayer and xmms always freeze when i try to play anything? [06:30] Toma: i know i need a more powerful fan or water cooling system, but there has to be a way to deal with this VIRTUALY ;) [06:30] Toma: what's that gonna do? [06:31] Toma: acpi=off [06:31] Dr_Willis I am unfamilliar with the shell .... Im very new to this.. [06:31] itll turn off acpi from the kernel so it wont care about cpu temp hopefully. [06:31] Toma: Hmm.. You mean at the GRUB screen? [06:31] i take it java runtime environment 1.5 isn't in the repo's either .. as its on that torrent site someone linked earlier [06:31] thanks for the help everyone... brb [06:31] yep [06:31] Diskgrind, well alli can say is that google has a great many "shell tutorials" - the shell is your friend.. its worth spending an hr or 3 goihg through a few 'bash tutorials' [06:32] Toma: Hmm.. :D ok, i'm gonna try it now ;) [06:32] select the kernel u want, hit e, and edit the boot line and add acpi=off at the end [06:32] ok good luck [06:32] Toma: ok, thanks ;) === Nulizar [n=NullPoin@201.138.192.10] has joined #ubuntu === AngryParsley_ [n=AngryPar@ool-457619d7.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu === mahangu is now known as mahangu`afk === bigbootay [n=bigboota@CPE0004e28a9289-CM000a73a14ed4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu === crimsun [n=crimsun@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #ubuntu [06:38] So, "deswsusp: resume mismatch: version" [06:38] hi crimsun [06:38] Er, "swsusp: resume mismatch: version" === user__ [n=user@218.111.167.163] has joined #ubuntu [06:38] dabaR, hi === robotgeek [n=robotgee@ppp-70-251-155-123.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu === ghostdog [n=ghostdog@203.177.237.214] has joined #ubuntu [06:39] hi dabar === Oris [n=kf13@pool-71-103-170-230.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:40] crimsun: what was the command to list what ports are open? [06:40] Toma: :( === goodtimes [n=goodtime@host-12-152-82-100.orbitelcom.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:40] no love? [06:40] Toma: It says that doesn't recognize acpi=off command... [06:40] dabaR, netstat -ntl === chris_ [n=chris@CPE-24-163-173-228.mn.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:40] how do i mount my dvd-rw to get into cd-rom 1? [06:40] u did add it to the kernel parameters line right? === madnoh [n=madnoh@219.95.196.87] has joined #ubuntu === bimberi uses netstat -plunt because he finds "plunt" easy to remember somehow :) [06:41] haha, same here [06:41] hi, why doesn't font hinting work on ubuntu? [06:41] chris_, it works great here (Breezy) [06:41] Toma: yes... [06:41] bob2: must be a cbr thing :) [06:41] when is Breezy due to be out? [06:41] final? [06:41] weird. [06:41] Toma: i tried to add it at the top, at the bottom, in the middle.. - no.. [06:42] chris_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure font-config [06:42] gigaclon: oct 13 [06:42] i've done that [06:42] fontconfig! [06:42] anyone? how do u turn off acpi from the kernel? === Diskgrind [n=ken@CPE-24-163-216-250.mn.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === nomasteryoda|w [n=nomaster@ip24-252-193-86.mc.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:43] Ok, the sad story is...A friend, onto whose computer I installed ubuntu, has received an email from the ISP, saying ports were blocked, due to a security concern. ports 135-139, due to "honey pot" now, I wanna see whether those ports are even open on that computer. === BasL [n=nnnnnnnn@tuxmachine.xs4all.nl] has joined #Ubuntu [06:43] Toma- Are you still here? [06:43] power management doesn't work for me [06:43] yes not for long tho === cereal [n=cereal@222-49.241.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu [06:44] dabaR, huh? [06:44] http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2603 is the output of her netstat -ntl [06:44] 'noacpi' as a boot time option - works for me - i think === Dalik [n=Dalik@cor3-ppp2632.per.dsl.connect.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [06:44] Toma- I just wanted to say thanks again.. I am in kde now... cool beans! [06:44] windows uses those ports [06:44] awesome [06:44] how do you make graphs in openoffice?? :) [06:44] Oris: there u go, 'noacpi' [06:44] not tobe confused with 'noapic' === bimberi [n=bimberi@DC-245-128.bpb.bigpond.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:44] stick that in kernel parameters [06:44] :P which is sometimes ALSO needed [06:44] oic..... [06:44] Toma- I am not used to the font sizes and will really have to find a happy medium.. though [06:44] edit the grub boot menu when its booted. (hit e) === vladuz976 [n=vladuz97@pool-71-106-208-30.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:45] Diskgrind: mess around with control centre [06:45] nomasteryoda|w: she uses linux exclusively almost. Ill look into how much she used windows... [06:45] how can I get a PPC-based Ubuntu box to play either Real or WMA streaming audio? [06:45] Toma- I will have to, to be comfortable with kde [06:45] Ahhh... Well, then i'm probably gonna search google... [06:45] dabaR, well if she did not turn on a firewall [06:45] which one gets called first, /etc/profile ~/.bashrc? and which one overwrites the path then? [06:45] .... dabaR and uses SMB.... [06:45] Toma: thanks though, now at least i know what to look for :) [06:46] since SMB opens those ports for sure [06:46] Oris: probably best. [06:46] no problem [06:46] vladuz976, the .bashrc will read /etc/profile if its told to do so. (like source /etc/profile) [06:46] I changed the PATH in /etc/profile and rebooted, but it has no effect [06:46] dabaR, recommend Ethereal too [06:46] vladuz976, thers also the .bash_profile [06:46] good analysis tool there [06:46] MadpilotPPC, you can still use w32codecs [06:46] crimsun: nope [06:46] you could just edit the .bashrc and set it how ya want for that user. [06:46] crimsun, on a Mac? didn't think I could [06:46] Oris: i just hope the ubuntu team havent removed the acpi=off option from the kernel or something stupid like that [06:46] Dr_Willis, so how come, edititng the PATH in /etc/profile has no effect? [06:46] Dr_Willis, for some reason my .bash_history went by-by at work... all 3 of them === Samhain` [n=shane24@CPE-72-128-84-192.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:46] root's too [06:47] i have no clue why [06:47] robotgeek, MadpilotPPC, sure. You just have to use the version directly from mplayer's Web site. [06:47] vladuz976, it had an effect for me i think.. grep the files in /etc/ see what others are setting the path. [06:47] Toma: i think i found the way.. (Google :D) Gonna try it know ;) [06:47] none has access to the system [06:47] MadpilotPPC: beep has a wma plugin. realplayer,install realplayer [06:47] cept me [06:47] nomasteryoda|w: she does not have the smb installed. === oolon [n=oolon@ool-4354ed6b.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu === barosl [n=barosl@61.77.213.201] has joined #ubuntu [06:47] MadpilotPPC: you can have the w32codecs., but they dont work [06:47] dabaR, which distro? [06:47] crimsun: Is that command supposed to list the ports that are open? [06:47] ubuntu? [06:47] nomasteryoda|w: ubuntu, off course, hoary. === Draquito [n=NullPoin@201.138.192.10] has joined #ubuntu [06:47] dabaR, no, only ones that are listening. [06:47] nomasteryoda|w, Hmm... thats a 'sign' that somone may of broke into the system. deleting logs and so forth. [06:47] well, install guarddog and lock those ports.. [06:47] Dr_Willis, true [06:48] i pushed the reload button in the synaptic package manager, there where packages that failed can i repair therm [06:48] Dr_Willis, base security no doubt === mike__ [n=mike@71-8-63-117.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:48] time to check the rootkit too [06:48] yeppers [06:48] robotgeek, thanks, will try that. No way to get Totem running WMA on PPC? [06:48] crimsun: I dont see any port numbers out of the output of the command, wanna point it out? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2603 [06:48] hi all [06:49] MadpilotPPC: not that i know of [06:49] hey i need plz, i am trying to install openVPN, howTo says that i need Tun/Tap module, im using linux 2.6.10.5 but i can't see that module doing lsmod, anyone have some time to help me? [06:49] dabaR: try nmap === linner [n=linner@71.243.221.228] has joined #ubuntu [06:49] can anyone recomend a avi to mpeg app. I wanna burn a vcd [06:49] robotgeek, too bad, I like it when everything runs through one media player... [06:49] greetings everyone ;) [06:49] doesn't mencoder (part of mplayer) do that? === hosler [n=h0sl3r@cpe-68-206-129-175.jam.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:50] or transcode [06:50] Dr_Willis, PATH=~/bin:"${PATH}" change it to PATH=/opt/e17/bin:~/bin:"${PATH}" in .bash_profile if i wanna include /opt/e17/bin to my path? [06:50] vladuz976, well you need to EXPORT it. [06:50] crimsun: http://mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/README ,it says "Please note that most codecs only work on Intel x86 compatible PCs." [06:50] thanx nomasteryoda|w [06:50] i think for ine.. === phrizer [n=lance@60-234-134-230.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #Ubuntu [06:51] Dr_Willis, but then it will only stay for this terminal, next time i log in it's gone [06:51] Normally i do a 'export PATH=$PATH:new/path/here [06:51] robotgeek, yeah, it seems that wm9 won't play on ppc [06:51] MadpilotPPC: mmy personal favourite for the moment is amaro for mp3's [06:51] the .bash_profile gets read Only by login shells normally. the .bashrc gets read by all the starting shells. [06:52] nmap os fingerprinting is the bomb :) === reter [n=daisies@adsl-10-220-160.mia.bellsouth.net] has left #ubuntu [] [06:52] going with transcode [06:52] crimsun: you can build it if you like, apparently..http://nanocrew.net/2005/09/01/compiling-vlc/ thanks to dvd jon [06:53] where should kdeveloper be after installation? [06:53] hey oen of my apps froze, how do i close [06:53] one* [06:53] oolon, cool [06:53] ryufreak, kill it in console === bobot [n=bobot@sili.adnu.edu.ph] has joined #ubuntu [06:53] there is a qt frontend and i think a gtk one [06:53] Jack_B: under the development menu of your Kmenu [06:53] Toma-: ok, well I do nmap -p 1-500 localhost, and I get http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2604 would you mind interpreting the output for me? I think it says only open ports are those listed, other ports from 1-500 are closed, correct? [06:53] for transcode stuff [06:53] ryufreak, type in ps -A, look for the name of the app, then type in kill [pid] [06:53] thanks toma- === Amaranth [i=travis@unaffiliated/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu [06:54] robotgeek, yeah, but I'm working within the framework of universe atm [06:54] dabaR: what are u running on this pc? [06:54] crimsun: :) [06:54] Hello there... Anyone upgraded ubuntu 5.04 to 5.10 using the instructions from ubuntuguide.org? [06:54] ps? [06:54] has anyone see this error when doing a modprobe ndiswrapper: FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted [06:54] Toma-: why? a ftp, ssh, and apache servers. [06:54] linner: sudo? === deFrysk [n=deFrysk@i111223.upc-i.chello.nl] has joined #ubuntu [06:54] and a mail server? [06:54] bobot: ubuntuguide is poison [06:54] robotgeek: nope i'm in root [06:54] linner: that is a common error [06:54] i pushed the reload button in the synaptic package manager, there where packages that failed can i repair therm ? [06:54] nalioth: it is? [06:55] ryufreak, typing ps -A will list all the programs running [06:55] nalioth: why? === gabaug [n=gabe@209-254-131-118.ip.mcleodusa.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:55] !+ubuntuguide [06:55] ghostdog: you can reload all you like [06:55] i googled it and the only thing i could come up with was in portugese [06:55] from memory, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq. [06:55] find out the process id for the frozen app then kill it [06:55] Jack_B: in a terminal? [06:55] Toma-: no, I dont think so, altho...that says otherwise... when I scan the domain name of the computer, so, blah.blah.blah instead of localhost, the 25 port is shown as closed. [06:55] ryufreak, yes [06:55] dabaR: well it should all be good then [06:56] dabaR: good being as I said? [06:56] i did but i saw sum packages that failed to be installed [06:56] u could always add port 25 to iptables and close it up [06:56] i hope i choose the right one [06:56] nalioth i did but i saw sum packages that failed to be installed [06:56] dude === RamzeS [n=ramon@193.108.38.181] has joined #ubuntu [06:56] do not use netsta unless you know how to interpret it's output [06:56] nalioth: thanks nalioth [06:56] postfix is NOT listening to other machines by default === brownie17 [n=fraser@static-203-87-6-82.vic.chariot.net.au] has joined #ubuntu === alexandros [n=alexandr@63.245.127.154] has joined #ubuntu [06:56] nalioth: can you point me in a direction where i can fix it? [06:56] what is colony 5? [06:56] bob2: me? [06:57] brownie17: the newest build of ubuntu breezy [06:57] linner, thanks [06:57] brownie17: sure [06:57] PID TTY TIME CMD === shookie [n=shookie@ool-43526d62.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:57] bob2: better safe than sorry? [06:57] linner: ask bob2 for a pointer, i'm not up on ndiswrapper, just have seen the error in here quite often [06:57] those are what's listed [06:57] ryufreak, what's the name of the app that froze? [06:57] sup [06:57] xmms =/ [06:57] nalioth: okey dokey :) [06:57] ryufreak, type in ps -A [06:58] ryufreak: type killall xmms [06:58] bob2: what do you know about this error: FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted [06:58] anyone know any video editing software that come with an install script? or on of them auto packages? [06:58] linner: that seems to be a highly useless error indicating that you need a newer version of ndiswrapper [06:58] brownie17: kino [06:58] Ohh, capital A, not lowercase [06:58] brownie17: cinepaint [06:58] brownie17: avidemux [06:58] bob2: nice. [06:58] robotgeek: xmms freezes on my computer too, do you know why? [06:58] Listen im having an issue with my usb camera. I cant seem to resolve it. Camera is a Kodak DX3500 and the error ... Cannot claim USB something [06:58] Jack_B, thanks [06:58] robotgeek: happens everytime i try to play a file [06:58] Jack_B, are you using the esound output? [06:58] bob2: just synaptic it? [06:59] crimsun: esound? [06:59] Jack_B: there's was a xmms bug on x86, i dunno if it has been fixed. anyways, use beep-media-player! [06:59] Jack_B, in Preferences [06:59] robotgeek, err, which? [06:59] crimsun: if i am should it work? [06:59] bob2: well, did you read what my issue is? I got a email from ISP saying ports 42, 135-139, 445 are being blocked due to a security concern they have. so, I used nmap to scan what ports are open, and it did not list any of those as being open. ISP miscalculated the security threat? or alternatively, when I boot windows, then the security threat is there? [06:59] crimsun: on bug day, there was one. i dunno if it was fixed === pietrus [n=pietro@dsl027-180-124.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:59] linner: no [06:59] bob2: oh... [06:59] so what's the best media player to use, if not xmms? [06:59] Jack_B, depends if you're using standard gnome audio settings [07:00] bob2: what should i do then? [07:00] dabaR: no, that's just a normal misunderstanding of how TCP works [07:00] robotgeek, the free() stack smasher? [07:00] bob2: go to sourceforge? [07:00] linner: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto [07:00] bob2: i've got that [07:00] crimsun: ok i just switched to esound uoutput [07:00] crimsun: not sure, am a ppc guy. i was testing bugs on ppc. din't bother with that one [07:00] robotgeek, that was due to xmms-flac and has since been fixed. [07:00] crimsun: oh okay, noted [07:01] dabaR: you cannot detect that block from within your house [07:01] linner: you read that exact page? [07:01] bob2: yes [07:01] bob2: so, scan for it from here? [07:01] I mean, from another computer? [07:01] bob2: that's what i've been following up to this point === Samhain [n=shane24@CPE-72-128-84-192.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [07:01] linner: ouch [07:01] bob2: i kmnow [07:01] know that is [07:01] crimsun: OMG it doesn't freeze anymore, i lub joo [07:01] dabaR: it doesn't matter [07:02] bob2: well, what, are the ports open and the computer infested, or not, to be blunt...? [07:02] dabaR: no, it has nothing to do with you [07:02] crimsun: do i have to change mplayer's output to esound as well? because that app always freezes on me as well === killapop [n=allan@203.145.183.210] has joined #ubuntu [07:02] Jack_B, -ao esd [07:03] bob2: so they are wrong about the ports being open, or it was windows, am I understanding this properly? [07:03] dabaR: no, you're misunderstanding how tcp networks work [07:03] ok. so its still possible that my computer is a threat? [07:03] of course === Travis|H [n=travis@68-187-95-204.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [07:03] bob2: what should I do? [07:03] if your isp claims otherwise, they're lying or stupid [07:03] dabaR: do nothing [07:04] they say I am a threat, and they blocked my ports. so they are correct? [07:04] dabaR: keep up to date with security patches, dont' run crap from untrusted sources and you wont' have issues [07:04] crimsun: err do i type that in console or something [07:04] dabaR: no, they didn't [07:04] what is the command that is run to hibernate in breezy? it's not /usr/sbin/hibernate, that's swsusp2 apparently [07:04] Jack_B, yes [07:04] is skype in any repository? [07:04] bob2: sorry, I dont get it. THey blocked my ports. [07:04] vladuz976, no [07:04] philc: sudo /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh [07:04] dabaR: dude [07:04] bob2: thanks [07:04] Or they said they did, anyhow. [07:04] dabaR: they blocked those ports coming into their network to *everyone* [07:05] crimsun: -ao, command not found? [07:05] Jack_B: mplayer -ao esd [07:05] im having problems with importing photos from my camera. Seems like i cant resolve the issue. I checked online with no avail. [07:05] shawarma, ok thanks [07:05] bob2: ok, whatever, I dont get it, but, I do do what you said above, update the system, and do not install crap. thats all that matters. as long as you say I am to do nothing... [07:05] Hmm. ever since ive gotten my wireless working (wlan0 is not 'up' at the moment) on my wireed network - the pings and other responses are real real slow.. Not sure what to look at to begin trouble shooting [07:06] ubotu tell vladuz976 about skype [07:06] 64 bytes from 66.35.250.151: icmp_seq=1 ttl=50 time=74.9 ms [07:06] [07:06] dabaR: it's very hard to explain what they did without explaining how tcp/ip works in general, sorry [07:06] anyone know if the wireless driver/config/setup could be messing with the system when im not using wireless at the moment? [07:06] very unlikely [07:06] unless it's a ipv6 routing thing [07:07] bob2, Hmm.. thats possible, === mypapit [n=mypapit@218.111.186.1] has joined #ubuntu === robitaille [n=robitail@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:07] I dont use ipv6 at all.. guess i check the wiki on how to remove it properly [07:07] anyone? [07:07] bob2: ya, ok, I got that. Its just that that place where they sent the email to is on the same ISP as I am, and I did not get an email. === ltf [n=ltf@207-255-111-005-dhcp.unt.pa.atlanticbb.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:07] bimberi, thanks i added that but now i can't install skype because it depends on "libqt3c102-mt" which is not available [07:08] dabaR: then ask them if theyre doing it to everyone or not [07:08] gah ok well i have that w32codec .deb ... i installed it doing "dpkg --install w32codec~.deb" and it seems to have installed .. but Totem still won't play WMV's [07:08] Travis|H: using totem-xine? [07:08] gstreamer [07:08] bob2: it says in the email that my computer is suspected. and that they blocked ports on my connection to their network. [07:08] erm w32codecs needs totem-xine [07:09] ?? [07:09] ok then .. that makes sense [07:09] thanks :) [07:09] Travis|H: newer microsoft media wont play === herfo [n=friendly@ppp121-3.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:09] shookie: What kind of camera? [07:09] having prorblems importing photos .. could use someones help === bosewicht [n=bosewich@pdpc/supporter/student/bosewicht] has joined #ubuntu [07:09] Kodak DX3500 [07:09] anyone know how to install skins on xmms? [07:09] libqt3c102-mt is not available in breezy? [07:09] shookie: Ok. What's the exact problem? [07:09] vladuz976: indeed, it's called libqt3-mt [07:10] ryufreak: add a .skins dir in your .xmms and put the skins there. [07:10] or just skins in .xmms === bosewicht [n=bosewich@pdpc/supporter/student/bosewicht] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [07:10] crimsun: did mplayer and xmms freeze because the default sound drivers were dodgy? [07:10] no, it was trying to use a sound server that is not running on your computer, Jack_B . [07:10] Jack_B: No, they were just waiting for the sound device to become available. [07:10] ryufreak, put the packages in .xmms/path/to/Skins [07:10] ryufreak, so do not unpack them [07:10] it seems like it knows what camera [07:10] just doesnt want to download [07:10] i tried several things [07:10] but im all ears [07:10] ryufreak, or sudo apt-get install xms-skins [07:10] ryufreak, or sudo apt-get install xmms-skins [07:10] ok cool fellas === sege [n=sege@sege.nu] has joined #ubuntu [07:11] oic [07:11] i couldn't find the xmms path [07:11] or is it xmms-themes nowadays ? [07:11] shookie: You need to explain the "just doesnt want to download" bt.. [07:11] well I plug it in .. auto import window comes up... my camera's icon is there while its searching for drivers.... === Malin [n=malin@083142121204.unregistered.media-com.com.pl] has joined #ubuntu [07:11] sorry [07:11] ryufreak, .xmms/Skins is the correct path [07:11] Cannot claim usb port or something like that [07:12] 1152 oe 1280, that is the question (17inch) === pietrus [n=pietro@dsl027-180-124.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:12] ryufreak, note the dot (.) it stands for hidden file [07:13] i did it under root as well [07:13] shookie: Doesn't ring a bell, sorry. === lucaas [n=LMX@h201n5c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu [07:14] Gotta run! [07:14] vladuz976: ah, there's a skype package for breezy here - http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ [07:14] Seveas: sure you have permission to redistribute skype? [07:14] An error occurred in the io-library ('Could not claim the USB device'): Could not claim interface 0 (Operation not permitted). Make sure no other program or kernel module (such as sdc2xx, stv680, spca50x) is using the device and you have read/write access to the device. [07:14] *** Error (-53: 'Could not claim the USB device') *** [07:14] I have a question about installing files in Linux. (n00b) [07:15] thats my error [07:15] !tell mike__ about ask [07:15] what is this ask [07:15] it freezes that command [07:15] deFrysk, thanks I got it installed [07:15] mike__: it means "please juats ask your question" [07:15] mike__, read what ubotu said [07:16] shit, ok [07:16] :D [07:16] it isnt so easy as clicking an exe file [07:16] what steps do i take [07:16] synaptic is used to install programs in ubuntu. [07:16] i know i use the terminal [07:16] mike__: what are you trying to install? [07:16] mike__: its easier. read the other url that ubotu sent you. [07:16] but the install files that came with the programs confused me [07:16] mike__: generally you do not use the terminal to install things [07:16] deFrysk, do you know why the icon of xmms doesn't show up? [07:16] ! tell mike about repositoreis [07:16] deFrysk: I give up, what is it? [07:16] ok [07:16] thanks [07:16] !tel mike about synaptic [07:16] deFrysk: Did you get hit by a windmill? [07:17] mike__: you need to be more specific and tell us what you're tryign to install [07:17] !tell mike about synaptic === Xorlev [n=xorlev@unaffiliated/xorlev] has joined #ubuntu [07:17] !tell mike__ about apt-get [07:17] mike__: and, you usually do not install things from somewhere, but only from the ubuntu oficial repositories. [07:17] deFrysk: that's not very helpful === Xorlev is now known as Meh === Meh is now known as Xorle === rob^ [n=rob@dsl-202-52-55-156.qld.veridas.net] has joined #ubuntu === Xorle is now known as Xorlev [07:18] bob2, sorry , havent had coffee jet ;s === jdermer [n=jdermer@200.14.239.76] has joined #ubuntu [07:18] thanks guys, gives me something to read... i may be back.. [07:19] mike__: what are you installing, tho? [07:19] i wanted XFCE [07:19] is there anyway to integrate a terminal onto my desktop? [07:19] and Winamp [07:19] its in the repos [07:19] bimberi, thanks [07:19] winamp is called xmms in linux. [07:19] hehe [07:19] just a bunch of software [07:19] ryufreak: integrate, how? [07:19] wanted to tinker with it all night [07:19] mike__, linux uses xmms or beep-media-player , not winamp [07:19] mike__: normally you just select them in synaptic and hit "install" [07:19] like have a terminal box right in my desktop itself [07:20] there is a winamp player for linux.. [07:20] where i can actually type into it [07:20] ryufreak: why? [07:20] i wanted the internet tv === ice_1963 [n=gary@pcp02171155pcs.brghtn01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:20] ryufreak: how is that different to having a terminal window? [07:20] i hate constantly opening up a terminal, or alt tabing to it [07:20] especially when i have 10 apps running [07:20] ryufreak: how do you plan to access it if it's "in the desktop itself"? [07:21] ryufreak: there is a command line applet in right click on panel>add to panel... [07:21] bob2: maybe that is what he will like. [07:21] or a non-yoda speak version of that sentence [07:21] yes i know that one, but i'm talking about a terminal directly on my desktop === AdmiralSenn [n=stuff@159.210.172.198.flbb.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:21] directly on my background [07:21] ryufreak: how would you access it? [07:21] wahoo, huge problems [07:22] click here to hide all windows + show desktop =/ === Oris [n=kf13@pool-71-103-170-230.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:22] I'm currently on my livecd because I managed to break something important [07:22] Toma: :DDDDDDDDD [07:22] ryufreak: why don't you just use a seperate desktop for it? [07:22] i was wondering if it was integratable though [07:22] ryufreak: then it's one less click [07:22] what do you mean? [07:22] I was using Partition Magic to resize some of my partitions in windows (and now I know it's a bad idea to do that) === tritium [n=michael@pcp0011975002pcs.sandia01.nm.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [07:22] ryufreak: do you know about virtual desktops? [07:22] and now grub tries to load but can't find any partitions [07:22] but ubuntu setup finds them fine..... [07:23] dual monitors? [07:23] ryufreak: no [07:23] so I need to reinstall grub and/or fix fstab [07:23] Toma: It works! I found the way :D here: noacpi apm=off acpi=off no-hit and it doesn't monitor temperature! [07:23] ryufreak: look at the bottom of your screen. see 4 squares in a row? [07:23] ryufreak, the 4 squares in your panel [07:23] right, oh i see [07:23] ryufreak, by default Ubuntu has four virtual desktops running... [07:23] AdmiralSenn: chroot into your system fro mthe live cd, run "sudo update-grub" [07:23] ryufreak: click on the second one [07:23] Toma: thank you - bye [07:23] yes i see that === Oris [n=kf13@pool-71-103-170-230.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu [] [07:23] ryufreak: clicking on the first one brings you back where you are [07:23] that'll work lol, thanks [07:24] ryufreak: you can bind keys to switch, too [07:24] how so? [07:24] cool [07:24] ryufreak: I have 12 desktops, each only has one app on it; ctrl-f5 gets me my editor [07:24] ryufreak, you can even set your mousewheel to switch desktops (forgot howto tho) [07:24] ust like I left it [07:24] bob2, uhh... how do I use chroot? === Hobbsee [n=sarah@CPE-144-136-127-247.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [07:24] deFrysk, ryufreak hover your cursor over the virtual desktop switcher, and scroll your mouse wheel... [07:25] 12 desktops heh === intuit1tion [n=intuit@cpe-66-87-4-181.ut.sprintbbd.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:25] AdmiralSenn: chroot /wherever/your/root/partition/is/mounted [07:25] I'm not sure how this will help since the livecd isn't seeing any hard drive partitions at the moment..... [07:25] dabaR: I'd have more but I ran out of function keys ;) [07:25] I run 6 usually [07:25] i see === bitblit [n=bitblit@lfkn-adsl-dhcp-72-26-15-185.consolidated.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:25] ryufreak: system -> preferences -> keybdingins [07:25] MadpilotPPC, Ah :) that one I did not mean but works fine , I ment the xfce4 way [07:25] ah, yes, the 12 f keys... [07:26] keyboard shortcuts? [07:26] k so if I install ubuntu 5.10 preview, can I upgrade in place when it is released? [07:26] I dont use that, I roll up windows with the scroll button of the mouse in openbox. [07:26] bitblit: yes [07:26] bob2, ty [07:26] bitblit, yup [07:26] hmm so i installed totem-xine ... wmv plays now ... however the browser plugin sort of plays 1-2 seconds of the clip and immediately stops and i can't start it again [07:26] is there an easy way to upgrade my kernel with ubuntu [07:26] dabaR: try to avoid the mouse as much as possible, plus no scroll wheel on my laptop [07:26] jdermer: upgrade to what? [07:26] like a newer one i guess [07:27] im sorta noob so bear with me heh === JDahl [n=joachim@pool-71-106-97-50.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:27] i need to download the wmv to my hard drive to play it back .. browser plugin is being fussy [07:27] I'm trying to decide if I should switch from Gentoo to Ubuntu. I'm totally new to linux, and have Gentoo limping along. I'm tired of mapping mouse buttons and compiling sound drivers in my kernel :) [07:27] Gentoo and Ubuntu are my fav distros [07:27] Ubuntu is def easier tho [07:27] that's apt-get upgrade :0) [07:27] i take it ubuntu works out of the box more? === HWolf [n=HiddenWo@136.130.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:27] bob2, the point is that I don't have any partitions mounted! [07:27] jdermer: why do you want a newer one? === bosch [n=bosch@220.114.ub.cable.rednet.ru] has joined #ubuntu [07:27] Now that is good - I added some extra desktops and presto, extra available keybindings to match! [07:27] bitblit, for most installs, yes. [07:28] AdmiralSenn: ok! [07:28] i like having new stuff [07:28] but the biggest reason is my video [07:28] [07:28] i have openoffice by default, is it worth installing openoffice2 ? [07:28] jdermer: ubuntu is not for you, then [07:28] bob2 hello [07:28] B_166-ER-X, yes, most definitely [07:28] bitblit, using ubuntu would make file very much easyer for you [07:28] no i mean kernel [07:28] not in general [07:28] file = life [07:28] jdermer: yes, I know; why do you need a newer one? [07:28] B_166-ER-X: as long as you get the most recent version [07:28] http://forum.ubuntu.ru/index.php?topic=847.0 [07:28] Has anyone repartitioned their ntfs hard drive using the live cd? I would like to know how easy, reliable, and what teh steps are that are involved. [07:29] my video card 3d acceleration is being odd [07:29] B_166-ER-X: the one in the reps are very outdated [07:29] i think a new kernel may help [07:29] deFrysk, rofl :) [07:29] synaptic list 1.9.79.2 [07:29] jdermer: and the card is? [07:29] what is Colony 5? [07:29] B_166-ER-X: yeah, it's up to 1.9.130 [07:29] !colony 5 [07:29] Hobbsee: I don't know [07:29] urgh [07:29] integrated intel i915 [07:29] !colony5 [07:29] Hobbsee: I don't know, could you explain it? [07:29] bitblit, a pre-version of breezy === AdmiralSenn beats his head on the desk [07:29] looks like a different version of 510 that i'm downloading === thewayofzen [n=delaney@mctnnbsa31w-142166118053.nb.aliant.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:30] bosch: are you asking a question? [07:30] jdermer: I'd be very surprised if going past 2.6.12 helped [07:30] bitblit: what version are you downloading? === Dalik [n=Dalik@61.68.201.92] has joined #ubuntu === sig [n=sig@unaffiliated/sig] has joined #ubuntu [07:30] says ubuntu-5.10-preview-install-i386.iso [07:30] question: sound always works in gnome. in xfce4 fluxbox or blackbox it always seems as though it stops working and will not work unless i type est & into a command window. is there a way to ensure that the sound server starts automatically [07:30] not sure what breezy is === hgmgm [n=sweetnau@203.115.184.38] has joined #ubuntu === CaiN_SA [n=cain@rrba-146-65-181.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu [07:31] bitblit: breezy is not officially out yet .. the current stable release is called Hoary Hedgehog === Chambers_ [n=Thom@pcp02906040pcs.roylok01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:31] Breezy Badger is slated to come out some time in October .. but there was a Preview Release (release candidate basically) that came out earlier this month [07:31] !info beagle breezy [07:31] beagle: (Desktop search tool), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.0.13.4-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 777 kB, Installed size: 2668 kB === [LethAL] [i=lethal@host86-132-243-162.range86-132.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu [07:32] and the latest test version (and likely last to be compiled before the final version is out) is Colony 5 [07:32] Travis|H: 2 days ago, Colony5. [07:32] Travis|H, so what should i get for a new install? === mae [n=mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu [07:32] Linux ROCKS! [07:32] bob2, can u tell me how to upgrade the kernel tho [07:32] mae: no, i do. [07:32] id like to try [07:32] jdermer: you can't, in general [07:32] jdermer: not unless you really know what you're doing [07:32] lying bot [07:32] Has anyone given banshee a whirl? it is pretty buggy right now but looks very promising, there are so many features already in the short time it has been released. [07:32] bitblit: well ... for guaranteed stability and compatibility with the unofficial ubuntu starter guide ... 5.04 (Hoary Hedgehog) [07:32] 0.0.13? i thought beagle 0.1.0 was out with huge ammounts of fixes [07:32] jdermer: if you're having issues with the breezy kernel, you really do need to file a bug [07:32] jdermer, i tried to brave it and i ended up with a big mess of kernel panick. [07:33] with breezy can i jest install xfce4 not gnome? [07:33] ive recompiled a kernel before man === AdmiralSenn cries in the corner [07:33] I'm confused because i have two pages up, both for Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy Badger), one says Preview, one says Colony CD 5 [07:33] jdermer: good for you [07:33] im just asking if theres an easy ubuntu way like with gentoo [07:33] jdermer: the ubuntu kernel is pretty tightly coupled to the userland in ubuntu [07:33] <[LethAL] > ice_1963, Yes... [07:33] bitblit: well if you are going to install Breezy, install Colony CD 5 [07:33] jdermer: sure, make-kpkg [07:33] how [07:33] !info beagle breezy [07:33] Is breezy still on schedule for october, or is it delayed? [07:33] jdermer: you're on your own when it breaks, tho [07:33] Travis|H, k ty [07:33] beagle: (Desktop search tool), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.1.0-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 827 kB, Installed size: 3052 kB [07:33] where can i open kdevelop if i'm using gnome? [07:33] bob2, advice on having esd start auto matically in fluxbox/blackbox/xfce4 id rather not have to type esd & into console.. gnome sound ALWAYS works.. id kinda like that for any WM i use. [07:33] Yeah, thought so. [07:34] Seveas, what does your ubuntu-apt-utils do? [07:34] hehe [07:34] jest tip server [07:34] thewayofzen: tinker with your .xfce settings [07:34] Travis|H, I take it colony 5 is just an updated preview build? [07:34] cafuego_ apt-get update? :) [07:34] bitblit: yea [07:34] Amaranth: sudo rm /var/lib/blootbot/ubuntu/*breezy* [07:34] thewayofzen: also, ask in #xfce [07:34] Travis|H, cool, ty. === [mark] [n=mark@211.24.144.182] has joined #ubuntu [07:34] thewayofzen: I'd just make a ~/.xsession and run everything out of that [07:34] so anyone have any idea how to get back into my hard drive? === KARAYELL [n=yakanozz@212.156.208.121] has joined #ubuntu === KARAYELL [n=yakanozz@212.156.208.121] has left #ubuntu [] === JzE [n=jze@a84-231-30-102.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu [07:35] *groan*, xchat won't filter out Travis|H so it beeps when someone says his nick [07:35] hey fellas, how can i access kdevelop using the gnome gui? [07:35] poor Travis|H [07:35] ? [07:35] I suppose I could just reformat my partitions and lose all my data [07:35] Jack_B: just run the command [07:35] which I'm not going to do.. [07:36] ok [07:36] Jack_B: install it from synaptic then it should either be in the menus or you can open a console and run it from there [07:36] bob2, i got 2.6.10-5 kernel right now [07:36] how can i get to the .12 [07:36] Amaranth: why is it beeping when someone says my nickname? [07:36] anyone have any luck installing an ati x800 series pci-e card? [07:36] amaranth: it's not displayed in the menus [07:36] im using 5.04 not 5.10 [07:36] Travis|H: thats his name. [07:36] Amaranth, i've already installed btw [07:36] Travis|H: I have it beep when someone says 'travis', seeing how that's my first name. :) [07:36] oh i see :) === Cryptid [n=melchey@202.63.109.164] has joined #ubuntu === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@202.37.114.163] has joined #ubuntu === ubuntu is now known as JonasNZ === [mark] [n=mark@211.24.144.182] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [07:37] i just turned it off for now, i'll beat xchat into working right later [07:37] i'm running kernel-2.6.12-1 [07:37] jdermer: wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryUpgradeNotes === JonasNZ [n=ubuntu@unaffiliated/jonasnz] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [07:37] holy crap kdevelop pwns my 128mb sd ram === smurf_ [n=smurf@CPE-65-29-0-141.mn.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [07:37] anywho .. i'm having a bit of a funky issue .. i'm using totem-xine, w32codecs, and the Totem Mozilla Plugin 1.2.0 ..... when i open up to a page with an embeded wmv the video loads up fine and plays for a very short blip (1-2 seconds) and then stops .. and it won't let me hit the play button === sirexa1 [n=mantas@office.idamas.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:38] i get a short blip of video and sound .. and totem can play the file fine from my hard drive [07:38] just the plugin is being fishy ....... anyone encounter that .. or have any idea how i might fix it? [07:38] Travis|H, I have the same issue. I havn't looked for a solution though. [07:38] hmmm well its nice knowing im not alone .. thanks henke [07:38] use mplayer plugin [07:38] I Need Java2 Runtime From where Do i get it I cannot find it in Synaptic (i added the multiverse repos also) === zakame [n=zakame@210.213.77.190] has joined #ubuntu [07:39] !tell Cryptid about java [07:39] Cryptid: Sun's java is proprietary, and no other organization than SUn can distribute it, legally. === esac [n=esac@unaffiliated/esac] has joined #ubuntu [07:40] Cryptid: Use java-package. See wiki.ubuntu.com/Java === Almanyadan_Fatih [n=subay_me@81.215.157.144] has joined #ubuntu === Almanyadan_Fatih [n=subay_me@81.215.157.144] has left #ubuntu [] === Almanyadan_Fatih [n=subay_me@81.215.157.144] has joined #ubuntu === Almanyadan_Fatih [n=subay_me@81.215.157.144] has left #ubuntu [] [07:40] what can i install to control power options, cpu frequency, suspend, hibernate, etc... ? [07:40] Is there no RealPlayer for PPC hardware? [07:41] MadpilotPPC, doesn't vlc play that format? [07:41] MadpilotPPC: Probably not. [07:41] Can anyone help me with file transfer for a Yahoo account in Gaim, as in I can't. It appears that everything goes fine, no errors on my end, but when my yahoo friend get's the file, even a small screenshot png, it says it's an html on the other end and wont open [07:41] MadpilotPPC: sorry no [07:41] MadpilotPPC: we are red headed step children [07:41] nalioth, meh. Any way to play Real streams, then? === bugz_ [n=vanni@adsl-69-231-28-250.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu === cafuego_ sets fire to both nalioth and MadpilotPPC === AdmiralSenn [n=stuff@159.210.172.198.flbb.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [07:41] lol [07:42] realplayer for mac osx exists... [07:42] what does codec fall under in synaptic? [07:42] !codecs [07:42] somebody said codecs was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats [07:42] The only OS on PPC that works for all that proprietary stuff is OS X :P [07:42] ryufreak, use the Search button, it's faster than messing with the categories === crafteh [i=crafteh@BAKER-TWO-TWENTY-NINE.MIT.EDU] has joined #ubuntu [07:42] good diea === |XO| [n=XOXOXO@pcp05048398pcs.ivylnd01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:42] idea* === |XO| [n=XOXOXO@pcp05048398pcs.ivylnd01.pa.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu [] [07:43] when i click the logout button and the background is fading, my mouse starts to jump a lot. does this happen to anyone else? whenever the fading occurs it does... [07:43] My favourite local radio station streams only in Real & WMA (actually asp-something) and I can't play either on this machine! :( === todd_ is now known as pussfeller [07:44] is the livna ATI driver have 3d support? [07:44] MadpilotPPC: Email them and ask them why they don't podcast. === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu [07:44] REAL AND wma can ussually be played [07:44] cafuego, I'd settle for a basic MP3 stream, frankly [07:44] real releases a linux client, helix player or something [07:44] so XMMS from the repositors uses gtk1 to draw the menu's .. is there a gtk2 version of xmms .. same question for gmplayer ... it seems rhythmbox and totem are gonna have to be pushed aside because they're not co-operating with me === AdmiralSenn [n=stuff@159.210.172.198.flbb.net] has joined #ubuntu === |Sp0wn| [n=Sp0wn@81.56.207.232] has joined #ubuntu [07:45] i just searched realplayer, and i think the command is sudo apt-get install realplayer [07:45] you can get it from their website too [07:45] it is [07:45] MadpilotPCC, try it, and see if it works out for you [07:45] ryufreak, PPC machines use a different repository to x86 machines - I've already searched for it... [07:46] oh [07:46] Personally I think java is dead. [07:46] not yet, but eventually.. [07:46] so.... say I'm trying to mount a reiser partition [07:46] what's the command? [07:46] -t reiserfs? [07:46] but it did have a place in pushing forth alot of new technologies building on its innovative ideas [07:46] mae: It's widely used still :/ === Slarti- [n=klaatu@f00m.co.uk] has joined #Ubuntu [07:47] Java is going to be a long time dying, I think... [07:47] Chousuke, yah, i know its not dead now, but what I mean is that I think from this point it will just stabilise for awhile and then decline.. [07:47] does anyone know how to make xchat play sounds. Where is the directory with sound files? [07:47] with all the new portable languages like ruby/python/.NET and their cil and il [07:48] perhaps the future for java will be putting it on cil/il and using it like that [07:48] SDK will always be building servers for big companies, it won't die for a while [07:48] cil il? [07:48] common language infrastructure and intermediate language a la mono and ms .net [07:48] mae, all technologies eventually are replaced [07:49] JDahl, I disagree, C has been around for a looong time and is still widely used for many projects [07:49] dog, FF has an awkward method of changing external app calls - Opera is so much easier... === vbgunz [n=vbgunz@uslec-66-255-127-2.cust.uslec.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:49] mainly because it is a simple low-overhead language which makes it play nice with many other software [07:50] when i click the logout button and the background is fading, my mouse starts to jump a lot. does this happen to anyone else? whenever the fading occurs it does... === chavo [n=chavo@26.sub-70-196-51.myvzw.com] has joined #ubuntu [07:50] any help with Gaim? [07:50] hey everyone... I think I found a bug with GPA for GnuPG... Can someone confirm? [07:50] cafuego & Madpilot i am getting this error when i try to download Java "E: Package j2re1.4 has no installation candidate" as mentioned on wiki.ubuntu.com this command dosent work "sudo apt-get install j2re1.4" [07:50] how do you make a server, such as gdm start when you boot? something along the lines of sudo invoke-rc.d gdm add [07:50] MadpilotPPC: most of the linux things (like realplayer) are compiled for x86 [07:50] It does not start at boot atm, but can be started from the console. [07:50] dabaR: /etc/init.d/gdm start? [07:50] Seveas, how can i get access to download w3codecs? [07:51] vbgunz: that would just start it at that time. I want it to start every time I boot. [07:51] sudo first* [07:51] nalioth, I'm finding that out... I'll be glad to get back to my own (x86) machine in a week or two... [07:51] JDahl, but ya in the long run, sure.. who knows, maybe in the future all processors will have a builtin coprocessor that translates some common IL which would be the zen of portability and performance :) a hardware solution for translating [07:51] vbgunz: oh, not on that level... [07:51] stop talking to yuorself:P [07:51] bimberi, i can't use seveas' skype coz it depends on w3codecs and i need authentication to download that [07:51] Cryptid: hoary or breezy? [07:51] can you maybe once logged in go to system > preference > session > startup and config it there? [07:52] MadpilotPPC: yes you will then have an appreciation for what we PPC users go thru who choose to run linux [07:52] nalioth, hoary [07:52] i still can't get these codec's to work..... === jireco_cads [n=sweetnau@203.115.184.38] has joined #ubuntu [07:52] can someone maybe help me confirm a bug with GPA for GnuPG? === Dalik [n=Dalik@61.68.201.92] has joined #ubuntu [07:52] libxklavier is the only codec in synaptic [07:52] Cryptid: get your hot java here http://www.giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/ [07:53] hot java, lol, that's funny for so many reasons [07:53] vbgunz: heh. that would make gdm start after I log into my gnome-session [07:53] ryufreak, which codecs are you trying to get? [07:53] divx, ac3, and something to run subs [07:54] ryufreak, no idea what a sub is, but the first two should work with w32codecs, AFAIK [07:54] nalioth, Thanx now i can install Azureus,,, ne can u tell me y did they remove w32codes and java from synaptic [07:54] dabaR: thanks... I am learning from your problem too ;) [07:54] subtitle = subs [07:54] dabaR: Hope you get it fixed [07:54] Cryptid, they were removed from the repos, yes === oga [i=oga@79-208.o-vik.t3.se] has joined #ubuntu [07:54] dabaR: how do you think that happened? [07:54] ryufreak: VLC supports subtitles [07:54] ryufreak: just install VLC [07:55] tristanmike, but Y? [07:55] that in synaptic? [07:55] W32codecs --> http://www.giannaros.org/tor/bt/ [07:55] yes. [07:55] If I place a order of a few ubuntu cd's at shipit, will the hoary cd's be shipped, or breezy? (in october though) [07:55] hey everyone, I am downloading k3b because I need a burner... is this ok? [07:55] w32codecs is in synaptic too [07:55] k3b is a very nice tool. [07:55] vbgunz, sure. it's a better app than GnomeBaker, IMO... [07:55] oga, i breezy cd will be shiped i already placed the order for Breezy [07:55] can't find it :( [07:55] using search [07:55] vbgunz: this guy has a weird hoary install, did not even install OO.o for him, [07:56] Chousuke, not any more it's not... ;) [07:56] vbgunz, get gnomebaker === bobulor [n=robert@64.106.84.193] has joined #ubuntu [07:56] w32codecs was taken out ryufreak .. i just went through the same thing not more than an hour ago [07:56] Dr_Willis: When I selected k3b, a bunch of files got selected with it... I agreed to them all... should this be all that I need? [07:56] greetings everyone [07:56] vbgunz, its a kde app.. so it will install most of the kde stuff. [07:56] i got the .deb from the bittorrent site Dr_Willis posted and it worked fine [07:56] gnomebaker? [07:56] vbgunz, yes u will need all those files [07:56] ryufreak, are you following the wiki's RestrictedFormats page? it's all up to date [07:56] could you link me? [07:56] crimsun: I'm in dire straights with my sound system [07:56] !tell ryufreak about restricted [07:57] RestrictedFormats page still says to apt-get install w32codecs .. it was taken out of the repositories .. so that's a no go [07:57] Travis|H, no it doesn't - it's up to date, trust me. [07:57] If I place a order of a few ubuntu cd's at shipit _today_, will the hoary cd's be shipped, or breezy? (in october though) [07:57] it's cool... this is my first question along these lines... *if* I choose to uninstall a program I install through Synaptic will fragments of the application be left behind?? [07:57] hmm. [07:57] vbgunz: configs. [07:57] vbgunz gettting gnomebaker is better u need to download a very sall file but in Case of K3b u will need to download all KDE support files so its better to get GnomeBaker [07:57] vbgunz: you can purge them with --purge [07:58] vbgunz, configs will be left behind, unless you choose "complete uninstall" in Synaptic [07:58] or by selecting purge from the menu [07:58] MadpilotPPC: I am looking at it right now https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats [07:58] i am trying to install gnome-cpufreq-applet and it wants to remove ubuntu-desktop. any ideas why ? [07:58] this is one of the reasons why I wish to switch from Windows to Linux... I have this belief nothing will get left behind on uninstall... slowing the system down, etc... [07:58] Well, except for the bit where gnomebaker appears to be unable to burn audio cds. [07:58] crimsun: sound only works for Totem Movie Player (crappily). When I talked to the computer help center for my school, they said to update all my drivers. But I don't know how to go about doing that. [07:58] how do i add shortcuts for programs onto the gnome taskbar? === iiaiL [n=siecjoua@85.204.194.95] has joined #ubuntu [07:58] Travis|H, please read the whole page - you need to add a seperate repo to get w32codecs... [07:58] esac: the cpu freq thingie should already be in the list of stuff to be added to the panel. [07:58] vbgunz: i wouldn't count on it. unless you 100% know what you are doing, it is very often that you'll leave behind a dependency that is no longer needed === AdmiralSenn [n=ubuntu@159.210.172.198.flbb.net] has joined #ubuntu === iiaiL [n=siecjoua@85.204.194.95] has left #ubuntu [] [07:59] okay, take two [07:59] Chousuke: when and where do I use the purge command? does it go by itself on the command line? [07:59] crimsun: any suggestions? [07:59] Jack_B: Right-click the bar, choose 'Add...' and then choose launcher. [07:59] what is the option for the mount command to do a reiser filesystem? -t reiserfs? [07:59] thanks cafuego [07:59] cafuego: it seems to be a scaled down version of one i've seen before. i can't seem to set what frequency i want to run at with this one [07:59] AdmiralSenn, "man mount" might have answers === jireco_cads [n=sweetnau@203.115.184.38] has joined #ubuntu [08:00] bobulor, you're going to have to be considerably more detailed [08:00] esac: No, this one only reports what powernowd has chosen for you. (it scales depending on how busy the cpu is) === alexandre [n=alexandr@AStDenis-105-1-25-177.w81-248.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu [08:00] whats the name of the OSS project thats trying to clone howl? [08:00] hello === DMarin [n=davefx@84.77.3.105] has joined #ubuntu [08:00] esac: that was just one of the reasons why I in a sense started to despise windows... things just kept getting left behind... The system got slower even if I unstalled it all... man.. [08:00] I did that [08:00] esac: ie: When you're not doing much, it'll always be as slow as it can be. [08:00] it doesn't go over every single filesystem it can handle [08:00] cafuego_, Well Gnome Baker can make Audio cds i made 1 jus yesterday [08:00] Cryptid, have you tried serpentine? [08:00] Cryptid: Not on amd64 breezy, completely hangs. === mahangu [n=mahangu@220.247.229.10] has joined #ubuntu [08:00] i need help for Ubuntu ??? [08:00] cafuego: any idea what i can install to control that. unfortunately vmware doesn't seem to pass through its need for cpu and it runs as slow as a dog [08:00] more specifically I need to know what filesystem ubuntu uses by default and what the mount option for it is [08:00] AdmiralSenn, try "man -k reiser" - that will search the man files for resier... [08:01] any recommendations for a ftp client i can apt-get? [08:01] mae, what is serpentine [08:01] cafuego_, ugh. Where does it hang? === alkalineX [n=alkaline@CN-ESR1-69-61-204-172.fuse.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:01] AdmiralSenn, ext3 by default, AFAIK [08:01] crimsun: how do I determine the sound system running in my computer? Would it be Alsa? [08:01] esac: Disable powernowd, that should force it to run at full speed. [08:01] If I place a order of a few ubuntu cd's at shipit _today_, will the hoary cd's be shipped, or breezy? (in october though) ? [08:01] i tend to use 'mc' for my ftp needs. but thats old-skool === calvin [n=calvin@pool-71-112-71-187.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:01] bobulor, by default, yes. [08:01] what does W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net etch Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907 [08:01] mean [08:01] oga, breezy full release cds [08:01] crimsun, so, I should go hunt down alsa drivers? [08:01] crimsun: it convers the mp3 tracks to wav, then stops. [08:01] ryufreak, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptAuthenticationInstructionsForHoary [08:01] tristanmike, you sure? [08:01] oga, Breezy will be Shipped not hoary [08:01] bobulor, not yet. That's the last resort. [08:01] ok :) [08:02] crimsun: I can cd to the tempdir then burn using cdrecord in a for loop without any problems. [08:02] nothing [08:02] oga, yeah, if you order Breezy will be shipped not Hoary, in fact the shipit page says that [08:02] cafuego_, hmm, ok. === awYJueuL [n=ouutbdod@d213-103-221-70.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #ubuntu [08:02] crimsun: what would be a good first resort? [08:02] i install breezy on my laptop [08:02] bobulor, cat /proc/asound/modules === awYJueuL [n=ouutbdod@d213-103-221-70.cust.tele2.fr] has left #ubuntu [] === noreen [n=noreen@202.84.106.241] has joined #ubuntu [08:02] crimsun, in terminal? [08:03] ftp client for ubuntu, anyone? [08:03] well, apparently it doesn't use reiser, ext2 or ext3 === oneifreak [n=oneifrea@142.66.74.4] has joined #ubuntu [08:03] wtf, is that normal ? i just install openoffice2 from synaptic, and at the splash screen its 'Open office 1.1' but the 1.1 have a red X on it , and 2.0 over it, like 'hand-writen' !!?? [08:03] lol [08:03] how unprofessional. [08:03] mahangu, gftp is good === jireco_cads [n=sweetnau@203.115.184.38] has joined #ubuntu [08:03] Cryptid, does it ship with ubuntu? or do i have to d/l it? [08:04] crimsun: I typed "cat /proc/asound/modules" and got the reply "0 snd_intel8x0" [08:04] B_166-ER-X, 2.0 is a beta still... [08:04] mahangu, download it from synaptic [08:04] B_166-ER-X: ive seen that before [08:04] bobulor, ok. Are you using Hoary or Breezy? [08:04] crimsun, good question, I'll look around in synaptic [08:04] well, it doenst look like openoffice2 from Breezy at all.. [08:05] "Merge the archive key for debian-marillat into your default user's keyring" how do i do that? [08:05] can anyone help me with an EXE question (Very new to ubuntu)? [08:05] just ask [08:05] bobulor, lsb_release -a will tell you [08:05] ryufreak, breezy is not every released, and you're already busy breaking it? [08:05] is there anyway to install exe programs in ubuntu? [08:05] EXE? === iTuXHwiL [n=ouutbdod@d213-103-221-70.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #ubuntu [08:05] calvin, there are no exe's in linux [08:06] calvin, exe is a Windows only file === ASLI_ [n=go_nen_l@81.213.226.153] has joined #ubuntu [08:06] time for a wine/faq/ url. === ASLI_ [n=go_nen_l@81.213.226.153] has left #ubuntu [] [08:06] lol [08:06] calvin: we have elfs in linux, not exes [08:06] JDahl, I just want some codec's :( lol [08:06] crimsun, I use Hoary Hedgehog === iTuXHwiL [n=ouutbdod@d213-103-221-70.cust.tele2.fr] has left #ubuntu [] === utku [n=perisani@81.213.226.153] has joined #ubuntu [08:06] How can I get photoshop for ubuntu, or can i" [08:06] ? [08:06] !wine === utku [n=perisani@81.213.226.153] has left #ubuntu [] [08:06] type "!wine" and read the bots message [08:07] you MAY be able to run it with 'wine' [08:07] photoshop is gimp [08:07] bobulor, are you using an ~/.asoundrc or /etc/asound.conf? === cevizoglu [n=cevizogl@c-24-6-158-63.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:07] calvin, try the GIMP instead - it's installed in Ubuntu by default [08:07] or use gimp - it can do most all the basic tasks. [08:07] !openoffice2.org splash screen odities [08:07] Wish i knew, B_166-ER-X === aftertaf [n=david@sara2lee.agns.fr] has joined #ubuntu [08:07] (..) [08:07] crimsun, will typing either one tell me? [08:07] is there any conversion?, I kinda need it for my online class for college [08:07] bobulor, no. ls -l ~/.asoundrc /etc/asound.conf === chavo [n=chavo@26.sub-70-196-51.myvzw.com] has joined #ubuntu [08:08] boing :) [08:08] calvin, why not dual boot windows if you need it? [08:08] calvin, you might be able to get Photoshop running in Wine [08:08] if the class is teaching photoshop - you will proberly want to use photpshop then [08:08] linner: morning k: ) [08:08] aftertaf: HEY!!!!!!!!!!! [08:08] aftertaf: i was just thinking about you [08:08] I lost my XP disk, main reason for being persistant about it in ubuntu === Digis [n=digis@193.219.137.203] has joined #ubuntu [08:09] linner: nice ;) [08:09] wine is a compatibility layer used by linux to let it run [some] windows programs. [08:09] what is wine? [08:09] type "!wine" and read the bots message [08:09] did you get all 12 of my emails this morning??? *laughing* [08:09] !wine [08:09] :) like i said earlier. [08:09] calvin, have a look at gimp-shop, it's a plugin that makes all the menus and stuff as close to photoshop as possible [08:09] lol === alisher [n=alex@vp211196.kln.uac75.hknet.com] has joined #ubuntu [08:10] !wine [08:10] crimsun, I typed "ls -l ~/.asoundrc /etc/asound.conf" and it said No such file or directory for "ls: /home/robert/.asoundrc" and "ls: /etc/asound.conf" [08:10] lol linner yeah... 3, not 12 ;) === noflex [n=noflex@D40AE68F.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #ubuntu [08:10] you get what i mean [08:10] !beer [08:10] No idea, Dr_Willis [08:10] gah, damn codecs! [08:10] big time probs with my keyboard [08:11] it's best to for get window's and jest use linux :0) [08:11] hehe.... typing with forehead does have its disadvantages... [08:11] bobulor, what about for ~/.asoundrc ? === praetori1n [n=carson@SW-90-728-271-1.Stanford.EDU] has joined #ubuntu === lord-x [n=info@62.162.237.148] has joined #ubuntu [08:11] how do I uninstall an application in which I installed through the command line interface? [08:11] bobulor, err, sorry. Your statement was cut off. [08:11] vbgunz: with apt-get? [08:12] where can I find programs that are for ubuntu, games, utilitites and such? [08:12] hey, the link for the docs in the topic needs a capital D [08:12] aftertaf: yes [08:12] crimsun, why? === dead|shell [n=oolon@ool-4354ed6b.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:12] apt-get install gpa [08:12] vbgunz: synaptic... or apt-get remove. [08:12] kingemer, good catch! [08:12] vbgunz: synaptic is a gui frontend for apt === NoelCower [n=donnieTh@64.139.238.135] has joined #ubuntu [08:12] what's a good firewall besides firestarter? [08:12] calvin, synaptic - is the tool to learn to use and love [08:12] bobulor, it's a local client screen width issue [08:12] ryufreak, did you figure out how to install that key, the apt authentication thingy? [08:12] crimsun, o [08:13] bob2, i am using kino, which you recommended me (i think), and i go to open a ".mpg" file and it gives me an error, like invalid format or something [08:13] aftertaf: thanks! [08:13] where is synaptic? [08:13] MadpilotPPC: just doing my duty :-) [08:13] nope [08:13] look for synaptic under system, administration [08:13] how can i have the last version of openoffice stable ? [08:13] calvin, synaptic is the the sytem-> admin menu [08:13] but i googled w32codecs, and found a place to get it [08:13] crimsun, i typed ~/.asoundrc and it said no such file or directory [08:13] tristanmike, try wget ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb [08:13] sudo dpkg -i ./w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb === fanskap [n=fanskape@81-233-197-124-no88.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu === JustAnotherSteve [n=askmelat@adsl-69-152-88-60.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:14] crimsun, with your earlier command it said the same thing about two other things [08:14] ugh so i am trying to figure out all this stuff for myself .. when it comes to CVS ......... CVS is just for obtaining sources right? ... or is there a special method for compiling the sources obtained via CVS? [08:14] B_166-ER-X: check out the ubuntu guide howto on it... [08:14] ryufreak, I have them, thanx, I just want to get that archive working === ishit [n=ishit@59.92.35.109] has joined #ubuntu [08:14] billytwowilly, nice name [08:14] bobulor, right, that's what we were trying to figure out. [08:14] B_166-ER-X: check out the ubuntu forums howto on it... [08:15] crimsun, they were /home/robert/.asound and /etc/asound.conf [08:15] Travis|H, cvs is mostly for version control, but yes, you can get unstable source code with it [08:15] just tested it, not working for me yet =/ [08:15] is anyone here familiar with "kino"? [08:15] crimsun, want to change the /topic, pls? typo in the UserDocumentation link [08:15] anyone can plz tel me how to get latest repositories for ubuntu [08:15] Travis|H, and if you get the release date right, you can get stable code with it [08:15] bobulor, which totem are you using, totem-xine or totem-gstreamer? [08:15] how do I use the purge command... I believe Dr_willis was telling me but never finished... anyone know how to purge? [08:15] ishit, type "!repos" [08:15] why isnt always the last version of an app, thats listed in apt-get or synaptic ? [08:15] where [08:15] brownie17: kino is a game in vegas right? :) [08:15] oh wait that's KENO :) [08:15] cevizoglu: but as far as the source obtained with cvs ... just compile it normal? [08:15] B_166-ER-X: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30866&page=29&highlight=howto+latest+openoffice - the last few posts of that [08:15] linner, hahha === linner is a funny girl [08:16] :) [08:16] crimsun, Movie Player using xine-lib version 1.0.0 [08:16] linner, i'm not trying to gamble im trying to video edit === Dalik [n=Dalik@cor3-ppp2632.per.dsl.connect.net.au] has joined #ubuntu === mode/#ubuntu [+o crimsun] by ChanServ [08:16] Travis|H, yes [08:16] ok thanks [08:16] B_166-ER-X: who knows, but it's pretty easy to install following the last few posts on that thread [08:16] "!repos" [08:16] brownie17: yeah then going to vegas night be a problem === ..[topic/#ubuntu:crimsun] : Official Ubuntu Help channel | Colony 5 is out: http://tinyurl.com/85dry | Upgrading to breezy? http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes | Documentation: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation - http://doc.ubuntu.com | Use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl for pasting | Found a bug? http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com === ced78 [n=CeD@pla78-1-82-235-235-129.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu === oneifreak [n=michael@142.66.72.119] has joined #ubuntu [08:16] if i install a program that wants to remove ubuntu-desktop, is that bad ? === mode/#ubuntu [-o crimsun] by crimsun [08:16] linner, hahah [08:16] ubuntu n'arrive pas a crire sur du ntfs? [08:16] :) [08:16] how do i get latest repositories for ubuntu [08:16] that's bad lol === Chambers- [n=Thom@pcp02906040pcs.roylok01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:17] esac: that's a metapackage, meaning it has nothing in it...it's good to install it before dist upgrading to breezy though [08:17] do we have a french forum? [08:17] !fr [08:17] well, fr is Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais === pitti [n=pitti@195.227.105.180] has joined #ubuntu [08:17] MadpilotPPC: thank you :) [08:17] which works better with ubuntu - pentium m or the sempron processor? I'm a newb with intel-compat. hardware [08:17] bobulor, do you mean that the sound's scratchy and pops, or ...? [08:17] rad, 242M updates :P === ced78 [n=CeD@pla78-1-82-235-235-129.fbx.proxad.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === wolv [n=wolv@216.129.188.156] has joined #ubuntu [08:18] anyone === MustangMatt [n=Miranda@firewall.thoughtprocess.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:18] Are there zimbra packages yet? [08:18] ishit: do you know how to see what ubotu sent you? if not, answer with the IRC client program that you are using. [08:18] can anyone help me with Kino? i am trying to open a .mpg file in it === AdmiralSenn [n=ubuntu@159.210.172.198.flbb.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [08:18] crimsun, imagine every concievable problem with sound, totem has it right now: pops. scratchy sound, sound that isn't accurate to what I know I should hear, etc. === scanwinder [n=scanwind@CPE-60-224-192-21.wa.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [08:19] bobulor, sounds pretty bad [08:19] crimsun, and i have the interesting problem where the speed at which the music plays tends to speed up and slow down randomly === aftertaf [n=david@sara2lee.agns.fr] has joined #ubuntu [08:19] if im already running breezy and i do a dist-upgrade, will i get colony 5 ? [08:19] crimsun, and Totem is the only thing sound will work for [08:19] i am getting an error with kino and cinepaint, can anyone help me? === Feral_Kid [n=kcc@red-corp-200.56.96.178.telnor.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:19] esac: or something newer [08:19] how do get a copy of breezy [08:19] bobulor, I thought you said sound _doesn't_ work with totem [08:19] ishit, if you are having problem with hoary, then you don't need breezy [08:20] crimsun, I just mentioned all my problems to the guy who put my os together for me, he said to go get a new kernel [08:20] crimsun, no [08:20] ishit, http://tinyurl.com/85dry [08:20] i am havin a BIG prob wit hoary [08:20] ishit, what is it? [08:20] bobulor, what's the default audio sink configured as in System>Preferences>Multimedia Systems Selector? [08:20] crimsun, with totem iat leasti can hear something, with everything else i get no sound at all [08:20] ishit, is it a bug or do you not know how to use it? [08:20] it does not instal properly on my machine [08:20] crimsun, ESD [08:20] ishit, what mahine are you using? [08:21] bobulor, try ALSA [08:21] p4 2.4ghz 380mb ram [08:21] !tell bobulor about ALSA [08:21] Could anyone plase tell me howI could install the latest version of fwbuilder 2.0.7? I am stuck with version 2.0.3, and that is impacting a project... [08:21] !tell [08:21] hello === senaque [n=friendly@ppp121-3.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:21] theres never a clean installation [08:21] brownie17, ??? [08:21] does anyone know if there's a way to minimize america's army? [08:22] ishit that's a good one ) [08:22] bobulor, you said you were having problems with ESD, so try ALSA [08:22] Got a question no one seems to knowfforsure. [08:22] scanwinder: ctrl_ [08:22] i hav a friend who is advanced in linux n he too has no idea [08:22] bobulor, it is an alternative [08:22] ctrl+c to kill it. [08:22] brownie17, i switched, nothing is any better [08:22] NaVi: say it, that's a good start [08:22] i hav a new prob at every instalation hehehe [08:22] ishit, well maybe it is just not compatable. there is a lady in here who has been trying for weeks to make it work, and it just doesn't. [08:23] yea [08:23] does Ubuntu have SLI support or is it coming in the next driver update from nvidia? [08:23] ishit: if you want help, be responsive to questions you get asked, and ask your question in the proper way. [08:23] bobulor, to switch to ALSA you don't just click switch, there are many settings which it teaches you in that there guide [08:23] can someone help me map shortcut keys to seahorse GPG signing of documents? [08:23] dabar: I'm not asking about the official repository. I'm asking if anyone has built packages yet. [08:23] so i thought ill try breezy [08:23] I don't see anything in the options for a shortcut key... [08:23] ishit, you should [08:23] brownie17, a guide? [08:23] dabaR: dosent work [08:23] ishit, but if it fails you won't know for sure until stable is released [08:23] dabaR: just tried it [08:23] ishit, if that doesn't work, try another distro or give up, because theres not much chance === MustangMatt [n=Miranda@firewall.thoughtprocess.net] has left #ubuntu [] [08:23] bobulor, in that link i gave you === aftertaf [n=david@sara2lee.agns.fr] has joined #ubuntu [08:24] kill the stu^id game anyhow. [08:24] nalioth, do FF extensions not work on Ubuntu PPC? I can't get Adblocker and a couple others to install... [08:24] bobulor, did you just select alsasink in the default audio sink? === user_bry_srfc [n=user@58.69.18.226] has joined #ubuntu [08:24] y is it havin these kind of incompatibility happenin [08:24] ok what an answer === Sp4rKy_ [n=sp4rKy@wifisrv.univ-rennes1.fr] has joined #ubuntu [08:24] ishit, your hardware is probably not as common as other hardware [08:24] crimsun, yes, i am telling him to do it the proper way [08:24] kk [08:24] I guess that mean no... [08:25] ishit, what graphics card are you using? what is the error? is it an X config error? [08:25] brownie17, he might need customsink -> alsasink device=plughw:0,0 [08:25] thats the first prob [08:25] brownie17, 1.) i dont see a link, 2.) yeah, i just changed to alsa in multimedia systems selector [08:25] but i got a way to repair that [08:25] crimsun, wel try it [08:25] ishit, which is surprising because I've had great HW support from ubuntu over all kinds of hardware === neighborlee [n=neighbor@d6-56.rb2.gh.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:25] bobulor, ill send it again [08:25] !tell bobulor about ALSA [08:25] stepping out for a moment, brb [08:26] bobulor, there you go [08:26] MadpilotPPC: ymmv [08:26] brownie17, every time you say !tell bobulor about alsa, nothing happens [08:26] MadpilotPPC: not only do you have the PPC wall, but the firefox version inconsistency [08:26] then some programs that i get through synaptic instal smoothly n dont work finally [08:26] I must have missed the answer === jamey3 [n=jamey3@82-37-128-102.cable.ubr01.telf.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [08:27] nalioth, oh, fun... this is 1.0.6, AFAIK, so it shouldn't be out of date [08:27] how big is the breezy downloasd [08:27] download [08:27] brownie17, it goes from the !tell statement to the bobulor... statement, with only crimsun's statement about stepping out for a minute [08:27] ishit, around 650 mb [08:27] ok one more try [08:27] I am stuck in a loop! gnome-panel keeps quitting unexpectedly. When I choose "Close" or "Restart Application" the same thing happens. How can I fix it?? [08:27] brownie17, still no link though [08:27] bobulor, it should open another window message from ubotu, with the link and info in it [08:27] Is there SLI support yet? [08:28] MadpilotPPC: if adblock isnt written for 1.0.6, that's an inconsistency [08:28] shux [08:28] NaVi, no [08:28] This almost making me what to go back to gentoo... [08:28] oh [08:28] NaVi, or so i hear [08:28] ok second question === xavier_ [n=xxx@20.96.119-80.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:28] then once downloaded how do i instal it [08:28] nalioth, it does work on x86, at least... [08:28] ishit, how did you install hoary? [08:28] i got to go ishit brb :0)- [08:28] through a boot cd [08:29] anyone have success/failure with an AMD 64 notebook with ubuntu? I'm considering getting one [08:29] brownie17, o, it put the link in another tab at the bottom of the window in a manner that made it seem like nothing had happened [08:29] I know nothing of Linux and or programming, how can I learn linux is there a beginner tutorial? [08:29] !tell NaVi about docs [08:29] NaVi, look on tldp.org [08:29] !tell NaVi about cli [08:29] ishit, it will be approx 650 meg. it is in ISO format, which means a cd image. you can use a program like k3b to burn it to a cd. but get the live cd first, because you need it for fixing stuff if the install dosesnt work [08:29] cevizoglu: the specific model is a lot more important than the architecture [08:29] NaVi, the two msgs from ubotu should get you started off [08:29] I am stuck in a loop! gnome-panel keeps quitting unexpectedly. When I choose "Close" or "Restart Application" the same thing happens. How can I fix it?? [08:29] bobulor, yeah, you needed to know what to look for. sorry i assumed you knew [08:29] cevizoglu: using linux-laptops.net and wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam is a better plan [08:30] MadpilotPPC: ppc users really have to love ubuntu [08:30] can anyone help me? [08:30] i hav a live cd of hoary so wil it help me repair hoary version === aftertaf [n=david@sara2lee.agns.fr] has joined #ubuntu === wrabbit01 [n=wrabbit0@220-245-149-106-vic-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu === net28 [n=net28@203.160.169.78] has joined #ubuntu [08:31] nalioth, I'm getting this impression... too bad... [08:31] one big prob is that if k3b instals then limewire n skype dont work n vice versa [08:31] l [08:31] MadpilotPPC: too bad for what/whom? === remyforb1s777 [n=remyforb@cpe-24-209-235-191.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [08:31] MadpilotPPC, so when breezy gets official release on oct 13, are backports encouraged? and where can i get a recommended file for sources.list like the one from ubotu for hoary? [08:31] nalioth, too bad for both PPC users and Ubuntu... [08:32] join #gnome [08:32] shit [08:32] haha [08:32] brownie17, fyi, i am arguably the biggest linux newb is existence. Im going through an online tutorial about basic linux (slowly), but I only know a few basic commands like how to sudo shutdown -h