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| StR | Hi there.. | 12:56 |
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| StR | there is a problem with kde new way to manage keyboards.. | 12:56 |
| StR | I cannot chose normal-us and dvorka-us together | 12:56 |
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| StR | hi again1 | 12:59 |
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| Tonio- | Riddell: you were right about daniel's revuing, NO and NO :) | 01:48 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: uh oh | 01:50 |
| Tonio- | I found things a can't see even if I look very hard, like lintian errors I don't get on both source and binary, I don't know what options he uses | 01:51 |
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| allee | Tonio-: which pkgs in revu? | 01:57 |
| Tonio- | kdetv and wlassistant | 01:57 |
| allee | 'k | 01:57 |
| Tonio- | allee: I agree that "depend: dhcpd | dhcp-client" can be removed, and that it should be Depends, but for the rest, I must say I don't know what to do | 01:58 |
| allee | I remember an discussion about dhcpd | dhcp-client searching ... | 02:00 |
| Tonio- | well I added the Suggests because the homepage refers to the fact that the software can make usage of that optionnaly, but anyway, dhcp-client is standard so that can be removed and I will do it tomorrow, but apart from that... | 02:04 |
| Tonio- | * the diff to orig version from http://wlassistant.sourceforge.net/ is 1188 lines long | 02:04 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: what's in the diff? | 02:05 |
| Tonio- | allee: I simply repackaged to tar.gz so I don't understand where is the difference.... | 02:05 |
| Tonio- | I don't kno ;) | 02:05 |
| Tonio- | let me check ;) | 02:05 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: to me there is no difference, I simply repackaged to tar.gz..... when I change anything in the tarball I put that in the changelog ;) | 02:07 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: guess you could ask dholbach | 02:09 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: I may do yes ;) I will repackage it without the suggest line, because he is correct on that point but concerning the rest.... | 02:10 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: and concerning disable rpath, what else can I do than adding this to rules -> DEB_CONFIGURE_EXTRA_FLAGS := --disable-rpath | 02:11 |
| Tonio- | he suggests to rebuild with disable rpath, but that should be done actually..... | 02:11 |
| allee | Tonio-: wlassistant should recommend a dhcp client. Do you know any "public" WLAN with that does not use dhcp? | 02:11 |
| Tonio- | allee: so according to you Suggesting it is correct ? | 02:12 |
| allee | Tonio-: Use Recommends: dhcp3-client | 02:13 |
| Tonio- | okay, I'll change this, but that's all I can do | 02:14 |
| Tonio- | allee: I don't understand his other comments, I will see with him ;) | 02:14 |
| allee | Tonio-: me too :( | 02:15 |
| Tonio- | his is incredibly strict, that's completly amazing.... He can find a complete page of problems on the nicer package ;) | 02:16 |
| Tonio- | allee: I'm repackaging the tarball to tar.gz to be sure but well...... | 02:16 |
| allee | Tonio: mkdir bz; untar tar.bz into it, mkdir gz untar your orig.tar.gz into it; diff --uNr {bz,gz}/* | 02:20 |
| allee | Tonio-: about 'Suggest: dhcpd | dhcp-client' | 02:22 |
| Tonio- | allee: yep ? | 02:22 |
| allee | Tonio-: it's a typo s/dhcpcd/dhcp-client/ | 02:23 |
| allee | err wrong | 02:23 |
| Tonio- | okay | 02:23 |
| Tonio- | I changed that | 02:23 |
| allee | s/dhcp/dhcpcd/ I now remember the discussion | 02:24 |
| Tonio- | allee: and concerning this -> * could you try to rebuild with --disable-rpath | 02:26 |
| Tonio- | here is what I get when checking | 02:26 |
| allee | AFAIR dhcpcd is/was default in sarge/woody (or so) and I argued dhcp3-client is default in kubuntu | 02:26 |
| Tonio- | lintian -I /var/cache/pbuilder/result/wlassistant_0.5.4a-0ubuntu1_i386.deb | 02:26 |
| Tonio- | tonio@Totoland:~/Desktop/temp/wlassistant-0.5.4a$ | 02:26 |
| Tonio- | nothing, so why does he suggests this ? | 02:26 |
| allee | then (but her is something wrong because dhcp3-client does only conflict but not provide dhcp-client in sarge :( | 02:26 |
| Tonio- | okay so what would you do ? | 02:27 |
| Tonio- | I added this Recommends: dhcp3-client | 02:27 |
| allee | that's fine, but what when another dhcp-client is installed? that was the idea with the '| dhcp-client' part | 02:29 |
| allee | but we have to check that every dhcp--xyz- client Conflicts _and_ Provides dhcp-client | 02:29 |
| Tonio- | yep that's the reason I put both..... | 02:30 |
| Tonio- | in case another one is installed | 02:30 |
| allee | Tonio-: about rpath. Pkg is build with --disabled-rpath, but check what's the output | 02:35 |
| allee | objdump -p /usr/bin/wlassistant | grep -i path | 02:35 |
| allee | if you get an output something is wrong (I get no output here with the kde svn I had build) | 02:36 |
| Tonio- | about the tarball, damn, the upstream apparently made modifications without changing the version..... | 02:37 |
| Tonio- | I can see the differences | 02:37 |
| allee | Tonio-: looks like you pkging is based on Stan work. So please include his changelog entries | 02:37 |
| Tonio- | --- bz/src/ui_main.cpp2005-09-02 06:23:44.000000000 +0200 | 02:37 |
| Tonio- | +++ gz/src/ui_main.cpp1970-01-01 01:00:00.000000000 +0100 | 02:37 |
| Tonio- | allee: for example | 02:37 |
| allee | Tonio-: you timestamp or tar is borked! 1970 ha | 02:38 |
| Tonio- | okay, but for example five files have been removed in the sources of the actual tarball..... | 02:42 |
| allee | Tonio-: kick upstream! | 02:43 |
| allee | and rebuild new orig.tar.gz | 02:43 |
| Tonio- | lol, and my package isn't based on Stan's work.... I did it from the beggening, where did you see something from his work ? | 02:44 |
| allee | http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-kde/kde-extras/wlassistant/trunk/debian/ | 02:45 |
| allee | sorry if my memory was wrong :( I mentioned several times the kde-extras repo. | 02:47 |
| allee | Tonio-: maybe that's the reason why I assumed it. I'm sorry that I acused you!!!!! | 02:48 |
| Tonio- | allee: what's in package comes from his work ? I think nothing, or am I crazy ;) | 02:48 |
| Tonio- | okay ;) | 02:48 |
| Tonio- | daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn !!!!!!!! | 02:48 |
| Tonio- | you know what ? it is a sourceforge but ! | 02:49 |
| allee | Tonio-: well, most of the stuff is done by him, with me holding his hand ;) | 02:49 |
| Tonio- | I can download on several servers and the tarball is not exactly the same........... shit !!! | 02:49 |
| Tonio- | sourceforge bug.... | 02:49 |
| allee | Strange | 02:50 |
| Tonio- | yep.... | 02:51 |
| allee | Tonio-: check control in kde-extras. Looks like you miss some more pkgs | 02:51 |
| Tonio- | yep..... configure file is not good ;) It doesn't chek for the others.... I'm adding this | 02:52 |
| allee | Tonio-: seriously: Why not download the kde-extras debian dir and add goodies from you dir that is missing in the svn version? | 02:53 |
| allee | s/add goodies/add your goodies/ | 02:54 |
| allee | untar the orig.tar; svn co the debian dir and debuild -i give you an deb. | 02:55 |
| allee | Tonio-: this way you can always to an svn diff and see what you changed and finaly submit the diff to debian | 02:55 |
| Tonio- | allee: that's something I sould do in the future yes, and it is faster than restarting from the begenning | 02:57 |
| Tonio- | allee: but at the moment I'm gonna repackage, reupload, and go to bed ;) | 02:57 |
| Tonio- | allee: also, what would you do with this (kdetv): | 03:00 |
| Tonio- | * jbailey gave a very reasonable comment to lintian-overriding instead of splitting libraries out: "i tend to prefer to keep lintian warnings as a reminder in the future in case something *does* grow a dependancy on it." | 03:00 |
| Tonio- | the problem is that he gives a NO if there is any kind of lintian's message, so what would be the solution ? | 03:01 |
| Tonio- | allee: anyway, I'll se with him tomorrow, because I get confused on the NO given to kdetv.... thanks for your help and have a good night ;) | 03:03 |
| Tonio- | allee: wlassistant reuploaded, with the cganges with discussed. | 03:03 |
| allee | Tonio-: okay. I hope you try the svn route soon. commit right for you can be arranged! | 03:04 |
| === allee is frustrated that I can't comment in revu :( :( :( | ||
| Riddell | allee: I'm not sure if you have to be a MOTU for that or not | 03:05 |
| Riddell | suspect you do | 03:05 |
| Tonio|Away | allee: just before leaving, concerning svn, you were making reference to the patching of the .dektop file is that correct ? | 03:05 |
| allee | checking .. | 03:06 |
| allee | Riddell: yes, I've talked with sirt* (or so) already about this topic. | 03:06 |
| Tonio|Away | Riddell: I'll discuss with him tomorrow because I get confused on kdetv for example ;) | 03:06 |
| Tonio|Away | I refuses any apackages that gives a lintian error, and this time after an overriding, he tells me to leave the messages ;) | 03:07 |
| Tonio|Away | s/I/he | 03:07 |
| allee | Tonio|Away: I look at kdetv comments ... | 03:08 |
| Tonio|Away | to keep the error messages, excuse me | 03:08 |
| Tonio|Away | allee: okay I'm waiting two minutes to get your advices on that point | 03:08 |
| Tonio|Away | allee: I just checked the deb with lintian -I, I don't see any message, while he says he can see "a myriad"............... | 03:10 |
| allee | i'll try to build here ... | 03:11 |
| Tonio|Away | okay | 03:12 |
| Tonio|Away | so have a good night ;) thanks for you help allee ! | 03:13 |
| allee | Tonio|Away: nite! | 03:13 |
| allee | Tonio|Away: kdetv: configure check for libXvMC but this lib is not installed (missing build-dep???) | 03:22 |
| allee | Tonio|Away: you install .so and .la files but no headers are installed. So rm them. AFAIU it should still work | 03:25 |
| allee | Tonio|Away: ldd /usr/bin/kdetv seem not to find linux-gate.so, unnecessarily linked lib????? | 03:29 |
| allee | Tonio|Away: kdetv has an ITP and someone on kdetv homepage there are sarge pkgs. sigh | 03:37 |
| allee | Tonio|Away: your manpages: what is ding? copyright does not mention the two docbook files | 03:39 |
| allee | Tonio|Away: desktop file in applnk -> applications/kde. Ha, this one has even Categories and GenericName but no comment. | 03:42 |
| allee | Tonio|Away: in doc dir is a soft link 'html' that refers to kding. | 03:45 |
| allee | Tonio|Away: oh desktop file in applications/kde _and_ applnk | 03:50 |
| allee | Tonio|Away: find . -name kdetv.png lists also twice installed images. Very strange | 03:50 |
| allee | bed time. night! | 03:51 |
| === Riddell wants allee for MOTU | ||
| allee | allee what to comment in revu ;) | 03:51 |
| Riddell | REVU thing to suggest at next ubuntu conference: allowing non-MOTU comments and a domain name I can remember | 03:52 |
| allee | but I have no trace in wiki, malone yet. So it hard to apply for MOTU | 03:53 |
| allee | nevertheless I feel honoured by you wish! | 03:54 |
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| allee | argl. much too late already ... | 03:55 |
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| Tm_T | whoa! | 10:51 |
| Tm_T | finally fixed | 10:51 |
| Tm_T | libx11-6 or something like that | 10:51 |
| Tm_T | anyway, reconfiguring X to use nvidia -> | 10:52 |
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| Tonio- | hi everyone. | 11:05 |
| Tonio- | allee: thanks for the feedback on kdetv, I'm making the changes today | 11:05 |
| Tm_T | :) | 11:21 |
| Tm_T | \o/ | 11:21 |
| Tm_T | it's alive | 11:21 |
| Tm_T | hmm, but lost windeco & style | 11:22 |
| Tm_T | strange, apt returns this: ** (process:19204): CRITICAL **: egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion `egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed | 11:41 |
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| Tm_T | http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/377601 | 01:02 |
| Tm_T | hum | 01:02 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: gcc visibility is for dapper | 01:05 |
| Tm_T | ? | 01:06 |
| Tm_T | strange but all svn stuff I try to compile, fails | 01:06 |
| Riddell | that isn't a failure notice | 01:06 |
| Tm_T | yup | 01:06 |
| Riddell | there will be an error somewhere | 01:06 |
| Tm_T | there is | 01:06 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: egg is gnome's systray, it means update-notifier is complaining about something | 01:07 |
| Tm_T | oh | 01:07 |
| Tm_T | http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/377605 | 01:09 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: you have something that is still referencing libXcursor.la | 01:11 |
| Riddell | grep libXcursor.la /usr/lib/*la | 01:11 |
| Tm_T | a quite flood | 01:12 |
| Riddell | there shouldn't be anything | 01:12 |
| Tm_T | uhm | 01:13 |
| Riddell | you'll need to apt-get install those packages that still reference libXcursor.la | 01:13 |
| Tm_T | ah | 01:13 |
| Tm_T | this will be interesting | 01:17 |
| JRe | Riddell: http://eventwatcher.sourceforge.net/ | 01:28 |
| JRe | Riddell: it could be interresting | 01:28 |
| Riddell | JRe: looks interesting | 01:30 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: apt-get install ... well, doesn't fix it (?) | 01:30 |
| JRe | Riddell: i am packaging last version | 01:30 |
| Riddell | JRe: cool | 01:30 |
| Tm_T | I'm ready to cry, so great | 01:34 |
| Tm_T | rebooting -> | 01:34 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: apt-get dist-upgrade? | 01:34 |
| Tm_T | nothing to upgrade | 01:41 |
| Tm_T | sort of funny | 01:41 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: what .la file has libXcursor.la in it? | 01:42 |
| Riddell | name one | 01:42 |
| Tm_T | /usr/lib/libkaddressbook.la | 01:43 |
| Tm_T | http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/377631 | 01:46 |
| Riddell | which kdepim-dev do you have? | 01:48 |
| Riddell | should be 4:3.4.2-0ubuntu2 | 01:48 |
| Tm_T | hmm | 01:48 |
| Riddell | apt-cache policy kdepim-dev | 01:49 |
| Tm_T | there' wasn't installed it | 01:49 |
| Tm_T | installing now | 01:49 |
| Riddell | ? | 01:50 |
| Riddell | how come you had /usr/lib/libkaddressbook.la then? | 01:50 |
| Tm_T | hmh | 01:50 |
| Tm_T | svn? | 01:51 |
| Riddell | well that would explain it then | 01:51 |
| Tm_T | er | 01:51 |
| Riddell | you either need to recompile all that stuff in which case it'll be made without referencing libXcursor.la or you need to install from breezy packages | 01:52 |
| Tm_T | I install from breezy package and then recompile if I can | 01:52 |
| Tm_T | but but | 01:52 |
| Tm_T | didn't fixed it(?) | 01:53 |
| Tm_T | hmm, testing more | 01:53 |
| Tm_T | nice loads | 01:54 |
| Tm_T | over 4 | 01:54 |
| Tm_T | artsd x3 taking all from processor | 01:56 |
| Tm_T | hmm, finally some progress :o | 01:58 |
| Tm_T | oh thank you sir | 01:58 |
| Tm_T | ...no | 01:58 |
| Tm_T | same again | 01:58 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: I install as many kde -dev packages as possible to make sure there's no problem with em :p | 02:09 |
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| Tm_T | Riddell: thank you, I think I'll get this working ok :) | 02:13 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: cool | 02:16 |
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| verwilst | hello Riddell | 02:29 |
| Riddell | hello verwilst | 02:33 |
| verwilst | Riddell: how's da 3.5 builds? :) | 02:36 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/377671 | 02:43 |
| Tm_T | that's what I can't figure out | 02:43 |
| Riddell | verwilst: I'm not doing any | 02:51 |
| Riddell | amu said he might do some | 02:51 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: what are you compiling | 02:52 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: most of those files don't come from kubuntu packages I think | 02:52 |
| Tm_T | kopete, koffice and kdepim | 02:52 |
| verwilst | Riddell: i would like to do some too, but i have sooo little time lately :( | 02:54 |
| === verwilst cheers to amu :p | ||
| Tm_T | this is strange | 03:00 |
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| Tm_T | Riddell: trying it hard way, moved those files | 03:12 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: you might want to try a fresh install, those kubuntu daily install CDs are looking nice | 03:17 |
| Tm_T | hmm | 03:17 |
| Tm_T | I have over 2300 packages installed + much compiled | 03:18 |
| Tm_T | fresh install... uuh | 03:18 |
| Tm_T | to another HD, I will | 03:19 |
| Tm_T | but some another day, I'm too tired :/ | 03:20 |
| Tm_T | thanks for help :) | 03:20 |
| === haggai looks in | ||
| haggai | Riddell: hi, what happened with the LWE KDE stand in the end? | 04:30 |
| Riddell | haggai: George is going to do it | 04:30 |
| === Riddell worries | ||
| haggai | ah. worries about what? | 04:31 |
| JRe | Riddell: there is no libvisual package on debian ? | 04:31 |
| Riddell | haggai: if you want to go and help so we havn't someone who isn't an excitable school child on the stand that would be great | 04:31 |
| Riddell | JRe: what is it? | 04:31 |
| JRe | Riddell: it's seems to be needed by amarok | 04:31 |
| JRe | Riddell: to have the vizualisation plugins | 04:31 |
| haggai | Riddell: heh, well I looked at the Debian list and there are lots who signed up to help so I was thinking it might help if I helped with KDE | 04:32 |
| Riddell | haggai: that would be wonderful | 04:36 |
| Riddell | otherwise this is the public face of KDE http://www.gwright.org.uk/images/view.php?display=pictures/KDE/Ludex-2004/Jeff/cnv00002.jpg&width=402&height=600 | 04:36 |
| haggai | Riddell: a young dynamic face..? | 04:39 |
| Riddell | one who inspired this http://ktown.kde.org/~charles/lwce2004/we-hate-george-wright.jpg | 04:47 |
| je4d | Riddell: btw, i def. can't make it to LWE now :/ | 04:55 |
| Riddell | je4d: you're fired | 05:02 |
| Riddell | je4d: what are you doing? | 05:02 |
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| Riddell | JRe: hmm, yeah, seems to be the case | 05:07 |
| je4d | Riddell: starting a job at symbian, training course starts monday | 05:07 |
| JRe | Riddell: I have started packaging it | 05:07 |
| Riddell | JRe: any idea when amarok started to need libvisual? | 05:07 |
| Riddell | is it 1.3? | 05:07 |
| JRe | Riddell: I think it's in 1.3 | 05:08 |
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| \sh | amu: ping | 05:23 |
| author-psi | \sh: amu ist am umziehen heute, er kann leider nicht online kommen | 05:24 |
| author-psi | sry for german words but i dont know how to say in english | 05:24 |
| \sh | author-psi: could you please be a bit quiter about things going on in the background regarding some domains? thx | 05:24 |
| \sh | author-psi: everybody can read those words of you in the logs...and I don't like it that this guy can read it | 05:25 |
| author-psi | \sh: oh i forget.. hui its a fatal error.. | 05:25 |
| \sh | author-psi: actually it is | 05:27 |
| author-psi | \sh the logs will be deletet | 05:28 |
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| StR | Hi all! | 05:43 |
| StR | :D | 05:43 |
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| JRe | Riddell: I have packaged libvisual | 09:05 |
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| JRe | Riddell: http://jr.falleri.free.fr/apt/sources/ | 09:27 |
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| tvo | Riddell: almost done | 09:50 |
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