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northern_monkferalgirl: try the ndiswrapper12:00
leagrisI want no local cups server, just central lan cups server12:00
_willcooke_jodua_, hmmm.  try a "sudo apt-get upgrade12:00
jodua_k thanks12:00
feralgirlleagris: um...how? i'm a first time user12:00
_willcooke_jodua, Sorry, should have hit delete, not return.  Are you using backports?12:00
shagg_willcooke_ - still no love.  I'm getting errors now about not being able to get onto the mirrormax backports.  could this be the evil12:01
jodua__willcooke_ i have no idea and i dunno how to check?12:01
ZBlachsee, I can iwlist my network, and my iwconfig returns a great connection, but my router doesn't see me, and I can't surf anything12:01
dseomnjodua_: you would know if you were12:01
jodua_im quite new...sorry lol12:01
eagleyeompaul, can you please send me those links again, lost them by accident.. thanks12:01
_willcooke_shagg, aha! Yeah, you wont be able to fix until they sort the backports server, by which time I expect that the ff package will be fixed.12:01
leagrisferalgirl, thank you for ready my question though. Best wishes for your new linux experiences BTW :)12:01
jodua_i really dont know ANYTHING about linux...12:01
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leagrisreaing12:02
_willcooke_jodua_, In which case you're not using backports.12:02
eagleyeompaul, Basically i am sol right, need to do the whole reinstall game again.12:02
Travis|His there a keyboard shortcut to bring up a terminal (or a way to easily configure one)12:02
_willcooke_jodua_, do a "sudo apt-get update" and then when that's done do a "sudo apt-get upgrade"12:02
dseomnjodua_: you know the name and how to use irc, that's more than many people know12:02
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moparfan90i just install americas army how do i run it? the game?12:03
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AntiliisI have a problem I don't know if it's a bug: I can't type accented chars in console text mode. Any of you can type accented chars in console text mode?12:04
amorphdoes anyone can help me woth a sound-problem ? playback from console is perfect but with every gnome or kde-application the playback is interrupted every few seconds12:04
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leagrisamorph, I juste got ride of the arts sound wrapper12:05
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_willcooke_amorph, what leagris said! :)12:05
amorph_leagris: how can i do this ?12:05
leagrisartsd is a pain and sitll has been bulky, slow, delaying sounds :)12:05
leagriskcontrol, disable sound server in the sound area12:06
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jodua__willcooke_ i may have screwed something up a while ago when looking off a website...when i do the apt-get upgrade it lists this big thing "W; couldnt stat....."  a whole bunch of things that i changed a while back i cant remember what for....but there was a reason/...when i open snaptics it gives me the same error...i dunno if that has anything to do with it12:06
jodua_when i open snaptics "WARNING the following problems were found on your system:"12:06
jodua_and the list of things i changed12:06
MachineScrewyay acpi works12:06
eagleyeIf I got the error 18 message, Does it mean i have to reinstall,12:06
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Snopy_how do i reset the /etc/apt/sources.list ? :D12:07
leagrisbecause there are dependancies among the libarts so you can't completly get ride of it. Just diable it in kcontrol12:07
jodua_k i got back on lol12:07
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loststrykanyone help me install sun-j2re ?12:07
jodua__willcooke_ what was the last msg you saw me send?12:07
slepteagleye, where, when ? reinstall what , the whole system, grub, ... ?12:08
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eagleyeslept, hi12:08
leagrisompaul, you appear having quit good ubuntu knowledge. What is the correct ubuntu way of having system global settings for printing and not having to set it up for each users ?12:08
_willcooke_jodua_, ok, do "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"12:09
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jodua__willcooke_ thats exactly what i changed a while back12:09
eagleyeslept error 18 message when grub starts,, does this mean i have to reinstall again12:09
jodua_=/  i scrwed it up didnt i lol12:09
jodua_do you wanna know what is in there12:10
_willcooke_jodua_, Yeah, figures.  Let's delete the whole lot and use a known good one (i.e. mine!)12:10
jodua_hahah k thanks12:10
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MachineScrewany one think KDE is better than GNOME ?12:10
_willcooke_Whats the name of that place where you can post large text files?12:11
ZBlachMachineScrew, no12:11
ZBlach_willcooke_ pastebin.com12:11
MachineScrewI think KDE has that Windows XP fisher price look12:11
_willcooke_ta!12:11
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jodua__willcooke_ ok...its all deleted12:11
ago73Hi12:11
hyperactivecrondMachineScrew, that's why you change it12:11
hyperactivecrondEXPORT IF=kde12:11
MachineScrewit still sucks12:11
slepteagleye, you got more than the number , any message ? I don't know the numbers of the grub errors .12:11
MachineScrewits slow12:11
ali4728newbie needs help ! I installed Courier along with squirrelmail to work with Postfix but I cant get to Start Courier! any idea?12:11
puffWhee, I have lame. So far, so good. Is there a tool that will convert oggs to mp3s?12:11
hyperactivecrondMachineScrew, twm12:11
kevin007backports down?12:12
MachineScrewGNOME is faster12:12
NinjewMachineScrew: I think that kde is better than gnome12:12
ZBlachany idea why I can't connect to my router in linux, but there's no problem in windows?12:12
MachineScrewna Enlightenment12:12
NinjewMachineScrew: But its all a matter of personal preference12:12
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puffMy mp3 player can't handle ogg; gotta get a better player, but meanwhile.12:12
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MachineScrewYa12:12
ago73My shell (any shell) takes forever when I do tab autocompletion. Any idea?12:12
MachineScrewthat is why we use Linux12:12
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leagrishyperactivecrond, the best window manager is the one you use best and the one you ar much confortable with12:12
MachineScrewbecause we have a choce12:12
_willcooke_jodua_, http://pastebin.com/37725212:12
Ninjewindeed12:12
jodua_k thanks12:13
eagleyeslept says, something to the fact that it cant recognize my drive because the grub is not near the front of my boot partition12:13
hyperactivecrondleagris, i know...12:13
slepteagleye, did you compile a kernel and compiled  the filesystem as a module?12:13
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eagleyeslept, im fairly new, thats greek to me..12:13
jodua__willcooke_ is there anyway of copy pasting or do i have to type the whole thing?12:14
_willcooke_jodua_, You are using Hoary, right?!12:14
leagrishyperactivecrond, I used to like windowmaker on old boxens, kde on more powered ones12:14
jodua_yea yea lol12:14
jodua_i woulda said...i do know that much12:14
hyperactivecrondnice leagris12:14
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moparfan90hello12:14
_willcooke_jodua_, select the text from postbin, right click, copy, right click in your nano window, paste12:14
Snopy_I get the error: "E: could not find package mozilla-player" Whats wrong?12:14
jodua_aswome..thanks alot eh!12:15
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moparfan90i installed americas army and dont know how to play it. what do i do??12:15
slepteagleye, thats good than you didn't break things in that part12:15
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boxerboy29anyone else get those gnome panel refresh errors when gnome starts?12:15
flipyHi!12:15
flipyI'm trying to set up a web server, and a test fails trying to write in /var/www but the test runs from /var/www/test... where can I change that?12:16
_willcooke_jodua_, once you've saved that (ctrl-x in nano) do a "sudo apt-get clean"12:16
eagleyeslept, I cant boot my system up, ompaul said its because my bios is not recognizing it right for some reason,12:16
slepteagleye, there are to things you can check: boot with a live cd and then chroot in your system and reinstall grub / have a look if bios settings for the drive are wrong12:16
_willcooke_jodua_, then and "sudo apt-get update" and a "sudo apt-get upgrade".  Then you should be back in business12:16
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jodua_great! thanks...12:17
jodua_i will be back if i get trouble again lol...12:17
slepteagleye, you can change the settings for the hd in bios just try lba,...12:17
jodua__willcooke_ really sorry....i can't get it to paste....how?12:17
jodua_lol12:18
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flipyehm where can I set up the permission directories for a web server?12:18
eagleyeslept, I have to download a live cd. Is there a possibility that the live cd will save my install,... Lba is already set12:18
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_willcooke_jodua_, You should be able to right click in the terminal window that has nano open in it and paste12:18
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jodua_doesnt do anything wheni right click12:18
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kevin007I think you can go up to the menu and past12:19
kevin007or click the middle mouse button12:19
dell500does open office support graphs?12:19
kevin007at least in vi that's how it works12:19
_willcooke_jodua_, try middle click if you've got a middle button12:19
jodua_k12:19
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jodua_no luck...looking like i gotta type it12:20
jodua_wont take that long though12:20
slepteagleye,  try to change lba there is an other option that I cant remember the name of , just try all of them. That should be faster , and if the problem is in the bios the live-cd won't help.12:20
_willcooke_jodua_, no need.  Run "sudo gedit &"12:20
carrarroWhen you donw load an application, how do you install it?12:20
hyperactivecrondcarrarro, a deb package?12:21
eagleyeslept, i will try, be back soon12:21
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sleptgood luck12:21
mhzhello12:21
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ali4728Newbie needs Help Courier IMAP won't start! any help?12:21
jodua_thats all i type "sudo gedit &"12:21
mhzdoes anyone know about the official breezy cd cover??12:21
funkyHatlol. that's a strange question12:22
carrarrohyperactivecround: let's say Anjuta Development Environment12:22
jodua__willcooke_ is that all i type...what you got in quotation?12:22
_willcooke_jodua_, yeah should load a gui text editor, then you'll need to open "/etc/apt/sources.list"12:23
d2dchathow come my firefox is all screwed up?12:23
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d2dchatmy firefox is missing text12:23
jodua__willcooke_ k b/c we got another problem then....lol......12:23
d2dchaton everything12:23
d2dchatit opens just fine, but its missing text, anyway to fix it?12:23
_willcooke_jodua_, whats that12:23
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carrarroWhen you donwload an application, how do you install it?12:24
jodua__willcooke_ it says (gedit:7750): DTK-WARNING **: cannot open display12:24
jodua_i get that alot12:24
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_willcooke_jodua_, ok "xhost +"12:24
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leagrisd2dchat, try moving your ~/.mozilla folter to ~/.mozilla.old then create a new profile12:24
leagrisfolder12:24
sleptcarrarro, when you download with apt-get/aptitude install things get installed, if you downloaded a deb dpkg -i12:24
_willcooke_jodua_, then try gedit again12:24
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jodua__willcooke_  "xhost:  unable to open display"12:24
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jodua__willcooke_  lol...i might as well through out my laptop lol..feel like it12:25
leagrisd2dchat, if that don't fix the missing text, the global install is screwed. BTW, it most often a screwed profile12:25
shagg_willcooke_ - found a fix for the Firefox 1.0.7 issue.  see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=367285#post367285.  basically, it's a forced remove of ff and ff-gnome-support and then a -f install.12:25
carrarroslept: I'm not sure about neither one.12:25
RickynianoI have a problem I don't know if it's a bug: I can't type accented chars in console text mode. Any of you can type accented chars in console text mode?12:26
d2dchatleagris, ok, i did that, restarted firefox.. it opened up the ubuntu startup page but i still cant see any text12:26
_willcooke_shagg, that'll do it!  The way I did it was dpkg -i --force <ff packages> or something like that12:26
leagrisd2dchat, did you try removing firefox then reinstalling it ?12:26
d2dchatyes12:27
leagrisfolle remove with config files as well ?12:27
_willcooke_jodua_, Erm.  Oh!12:27
leagrisfull ?12:27
jodua_lol....i can just type it out...12:27
shagg_willcooke_ - whatever works :)  cheers!12:27
d2dchatleagris, well i can follow the steps you want to verify a full reinstallation because im not exactly sure what a full reinstallation would require12:27
sleptcarrarro, man apt-get and man apt-cache will help you or use synaptic will help, I don't understand what you want to know12:27
_willcooke_jodua_, You have got gnome running right?12:28
jodua_yeah12:28
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_willcooke_jodua_, Hmmm.  That's odd. ] 12:28
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_willcooke_jodua_, OK, new plan.....12:28
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jodua__willcooke_  k....yea i have lots of probs....lol...12:29
jodua_k new plan?12:29
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_willcooke_jodaua_, Applications -> Accesories -> Text Editor12:29
_willcooke_click them12:29
eagleyeslept, doesnt work, I see my drive only is recognized to 32 gig, but I have an 80 gig. I take it I need a bios update and i have to reinstall, right..12:30
jodua_k12:30
absenthfor general desktop use, which file system has better overall performance, ReiserFS, or Ext312:30
_willcooke_jodua_, do you get the notepad clone loading?12:30
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jodua_yeah i have that opened now12:30
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jodua_the unsaved document12:30
ccookeabsenth: reiser is faster in some cases. But I've found it to be markedly less reliable than ext2/312:31
absenthccooke: less reliable in what sense?  not trying to nitpick, just trying to learn, and understand more.12:31
_willcooke_jodua_, right copy and paste that text from pastebin, use the text from the bottom bit so you dont get the line numbers12:31
jodua_k12:32
slepteagleye, slow down with your reinstallation panic. If the bios doesn't recognize the drive a reinstall wont help. You can use a floppy for the bios update. When the driv is recognized you don't have to reinstall ...12:32
ccookeabsenth: we have a couple of terabyte storage servers at work - two different ones, with different stuff installed, but both running reiserfs.12:32
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ccookeabsenth: every three or four months on average, one of them will develop random filesystem corruption and need to be brought down to maintenance mode for fsck.12:33
jodua__willcooke_  k got it...now for saving12:33
eagleyeslept, so my install may come back, after i update the bios?12:33
sleptyes12:33
absenthccooke: so they loose data more frequently, or require file system checks more often then Ext2,3.  Now that makes perfect sense.  thank you for the explination.12:33
_willcooke_I know suse use reiserfs by default for some reason12:33
eagleyeI hope so12:33
ccookeabsenth: now, we've not yet lost anyting important, but...12:33
d2dchatwhats the command to remove a directory and ignore the fact it has files under it12:33
_willcooke_jodua_, ok, save it as anything you like in your home dir.12:33
jodua_in my home so like  /home/jodua    right there?12:34
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_willcooke_jodua_, yup12:34
absenthccooke: on the laptop I'm less worried about it, as there isn't anything terribly important.  but I could see having to perform maint. on the file system as a PITA12:34
sleptd2dchat, rm -rf12:34
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jodua__willcooke_  ooooook12:34
ccookeabsenth: generally, you're better off using ext2/312:34
d2dchatslept, ty12:34
ccookeabsenth: unless you have an actual use case for speed.12:35
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ccookeabsenth: I'd happily use resierfs for a news spool - after all, reiser makes a huge speed increase there and who cares if it fails...12:35
_willcooke_jodua_, ok from a command prompt thingy do "cat <what ever you called the file>" (with out the "<" ">" 's)12:35
jodua_yea yea'12:35
jodua_k12:35
ccookebut for my root or home partitions? forget it.12:35
absenthccooke: between Ext2 and Ext3 the major change is journaling correct?  On the laptop I'd bet Ext2 is a better choice as it would/might hit the drive less frequently.12:35
_willcooke_jodua_, is there right?  you can see the text?12:35
jodua_onesec12:36
ccookeabsenth: ext3 is almost always a better choice. It *is* very slightly slower, mind, but it's very, very solid.12:36
jodua__willcooke_  im sorry...from a command prompt?   do you mean in console?12:36
ccookeanyway. Sleep.12:36
_willcooke_jodua_, yeah, or xterm, or gterm12:37
absenthccooke: thanks for the brief, but useful lesson in file systems :)12:37
vbgunzanyone here know why reading Windows made text files on Ubuntu is no problem yet creating a text file on Ubuntu to be read on Windows collapses?12:37
jodua__willcooke_ i got xterm...so i just type cat fedup   I name it fedup12:37
_willcooke_jodua, :)12:38
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sunshine./tools/wineinstall12:38
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funkyHatvbgunz, windows and linux use a different end of line character12:38
absenthccooke: the best part is I feel like I got a good, solid, technical answer to my question, rather then the typical Fanboy crap I've been reading on a bunch of sites.12:38
jodua__willcooke_ lol.....when i type it it says no directory12:38
sunshinejoin #WineHQ12:38
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ccookeabsenth: Glad I could help :-)12:38
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sleptvbgunz, ???12:38
jodua_cat: fedup: no such directory12:38
funkyHatvbgunz, and linux can cope with window's one, but not vice-versa12:38
vbgunzfunkyHat: anyway to tell linux to use the Windows EOL?12:38
_willcooke_jodua_, ok, so you cat it and you see the text from pastebin?  (we're nearly there, but you're right we could have typed it in by now)12:38
_willcooke_jodua_, do a "cd ~"12:39
vbgunzslept: hello12:39
cafuego_!find dos2unix12:39
funkyHatvbgunz, you should be able to find a program for windows that will cope with the linux format12:39
_willcooke_jodua_, then and "ls" can you see the file name listed?12:39
jodua__willcooke_ lol.... ahhh i am so not getting this ...12:39
jodua_k i cant even do that cat12:39
vbgunzyeah I use SciTE on Windows and it handles it well... It is just out of curiosity for those people who receive a text file in which they wish to open in notepad and unsupported editors12:40
_willcooke_jodua_, relax guy!  Aint no thing12:40
jodua_when i type it it says "cat: fedup: no such file or directory"12:40
cafuego_jodua_: then you got the filename wrong.12:40
vbgunzfunkyHat: thanks...12:40
_willcooke_jodua_, NP, perhaps you saved it somewhere else by mistake12:41
jodua__willcooke_   uhhh but when i got to places and home folder...its there12:41
jodua_?12:41
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funkyHatah right. no, i don't think there's a way to get notepad to recognise it :(12:41
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_willcooke_jodua_, ok from xterm do this....      cd ~12:42
cafuego_jodua_: does the filename perhaps start with a space?12:42
_willcooke_jodua_, then do..... pwd and tell me what is says12:42
jodua__willcooke_  k when i did that it just said /root12:43
brandonzwhat programs do you use to do traffic shaping?12:43
jodua_cafuego nope no space12:43
_willcooke_jodua_, AHA! OK, do.... cd /home/whatever your user name is, e.g. cd /home/will12:43
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jodua__willcooke_ well when i put cd /home/jodua/ and put f and tab...it found fedup but when i pressed enter it still says no such file or directory?12:44
_willcooke_jodua_, s'ok, just "cd /home/jodua"12:45
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_willcooke_jodua_, then "whoami"12:45
_willcooke_jodua_, what it say?12:45
jodua_root12:45
_willcooke_jodua_, right, ok.  so are you now in /home/jodua?12:46
_willcooke_jodua_, if so "cat fedup"12:46
jodua__willcooke_   weooo that brought up something12:47
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_willcooke_jodua_, s'all good!12:47
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jodua__willcooke_   yea thats what i got from you12:47
jodua_so now what12:47
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_willcooke_jodua_, OK!  Right now "mv /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.fucked"12:48
netmonkcan someone help me, pls! I upgraded to breezy and now I get the message that X server is not set correctly. how can i fix that?12:48
_willcooke_jodua_, then "cat fedup > /etc/apt/sources.list"12:49
fr33mindHi.  I used the prerelease since sunday... and today, I was asked if I want to install some new updates.  I say yes... and now, x.org doesn't work because of a problem with "sis" driver.  Something to do?12:49
_willcooke_jodua_, brb12:49
jodua__willcooke_   a space between list and /etc right12:49
jodua_k12:49
fr33mindI was on Debian before.  I am new with ubuntu.12:49
test34netmonk, whats the exact error msg ? or you can try to reconfigure it: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:49
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_willcooke_jodua_, yup12:50
jodua__willcooke_   k so i did all that12:50
fr33mindThe error is something like sis driver doesn't match x.org, not sure exactly.  I have only one computer (laptop) and I am on another OS now.12:50
fr33mindI tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:51
fr33mindthe vga driver work... but in 640x480 :(12:51
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_willcooke_jodua_, right one!  now "apt-get update"12:51
netmonktest34, it is "I  cannot start the X server (your graphical interface). It is likely that it is not set up correctly. Would you like to view the X server ouput to diagnose the problem?" than i have only Yes as possible option12:51
jodua__willcooke_   k wish me luck12:51
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test34netmonk, try to reconfigure it: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:53
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jodua__willcooke_  seems to have worked...last line says "E: some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead"12:53
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test34netmonk, whats the output if you say yes12:53
_willcooke_jodua_, apt-get clean12:54
jodua__willcooke_  k12:54
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fr33mindIt's about the same problem than netmonk...12:54
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_willcooke_jodua_, then.... apt-get update12:55
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jodua__willcooke_   same msg's12:55
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netmonktest34, "I will disable this X server for now. Restart GDM when it is configured correctly."12:55
_willcooke_jodua_, ok, ignore it.... apt-get upgrade12:55
jodua__willcooke_  just to make sure...when it says after unpacking 3871kB dish space will be freed y or n....y right12:56
_willcooke_y = correct12:57
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fr33mindnetmonk: try to scroll the log!!  you will have a line begin with: EE:.....12:57
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fr33mindIs there a generic driver better than vga?  I would like 1024x76812:58
logan001101hello12:58
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fr33mindand I will wait sis driver update..12:58
netmonk i tryed the dpkg-reconfigure but it didn't help. when i try apt-get update it can't find the i-net. how can i configure the lan card. i'm sorry for the dum questions...12:59
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Travis|His there any special tricks to getting the nvidia driver to work on breezy?12:59
jodua__willcooke_  its still going...so should i be upgrading on a regular basis?12:59
odd-Hey.12:59
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_willcooke_jodua_, if it ain't broke don't fix it is my rule (depending on how good your firewall is)01:00
odd-I have like 120 packages to upgrade. I'm not going to get started just yet.01:00
jodua__willcooke_  k....i have lil other probs...like no sound in firefox i downloaded mozilla..sme thing01:00
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jodua__willcooke_  but is taht a common prob amongst ppl...i've read about it on forums01:00
_willcooke_jodua_, sound in what? movies, flash?01:00
jodua__willcooke_  uhhh in flash01:00
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loststrykcan someone explian how i can get gftp to connect to glftpd auth tls required servers ?01:01
lama_can somebody help me patching xserver-xorg-driver-vesa package?01:01
jodua__willcooke_  loh wait!01:01
lextonis ubuntu supposed to recognize mac os x on install?01:01
lextonI had to manaully configure yaboot to get mac os x booting to work01:01
odd-osx* is one word.01:02
_willcooke_jodua_, sorry, can't help.  very complicated problem.  mine just works!  (except I've disabled  ESD01:02
jodua__willcooke_ i dont think i even have flash downloaded....like....going to think im wierd but...anywyas,.i went to peta.org and theres a lil window there for a video and i pressed play and no sound...but on ebaums it wants me to install a flash01:02
lextonodd - please01:02
_willcooke_should be fixed in the next reliease01:02
_willcooke_releas01:02
_willcooke_release01:02
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lexton_willcooke_, are you answering my questioN?01:02
odd-Isn't it much harder to configure your DHCP when you have a dial-up connection?01:02
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_willcooke_lexton, sorry now01:03
_willcooke_no01:03
odd-I had a dial-up connection a long time ago, I ran windows at the time.01:03
odd-So ... belh01:03
odd-bleh aswell.01:03
lama_loststryk, normally (if you compile from source) you have at the protocol drop-down menu a FTPS option01:03
naliothlexton: ubuntu is supposed to recognize osx, yes01:03
lextonnalioth, it didn't for me01:03
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reterhi01:04
_willcooke_jodua_, have a look at www.ubuntuguide.org - it should talk you though it01:04
naliothlexton: are you using breezy?01:04
fr33mindIs it possible to downgrade today upgrades ???01:04
reterhow do i get my printer to work on ubuntu?01:04
reterhow do i add my printer to the OS01:04
nalioth_willcooke_: please dont recommend that site01:04
odd-I'm using hoary..01:04
jodua__willcooke_ k great.....i couldn't even get mplayer to work in here and totem that came with it doent work01:04
lextonnalioth what are you asking? the verions of ubuntu?01:04
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_willcooke_jodua_, look at installing codecs in the guide01:05
odd-There are three arent there 4 + kubuntu01:05
odd-5 + edubuntu01:05
reterhow do i add my printer to ubuntu?01:05
naliothlexton: are you installing hoary or breezy?01:05
_willcooke_jodua_, got to go, it's late here.  Good luck.  I'll be back tomorrow if you are still stuck01:05
jodua__willcooke_ alrighty.....hahah but what if i fawk up again and change something like what you gave me haha lol...01:06
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jodua__willcooke_ k later thanks ALOT01:06
lextonnalioth, not sure --> ubuntu-5.10-preview-install-powerpc.iso01:06
lextonbreezy probably01:06
_willcooke_jodua_, copy /etc/apt/sources.list to /etc/apt/sources.list.knowngood just in case!01:06
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reteris there anyway to add my printer?01:06
naliothlexton: breezy. you are lucky it completed the install, last weeks hung on yaboot search for other OS's01:06
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lextonnalioth, uname output is --> Linux ubuntu 2.6.12-8-powerpc #1 Tue Aug 30 23:03:49 BST 2005 ppc GNU/Linux01:07
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jodua__willcooke_ lol..k...thanks01:07
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lextonnalioth, indeed!01:07
loststrykcan anyone help with gftp for a few minutes ?01:07
lextonI just started using ubuntu01:07
lextonit's fast on ppc hardware01:08
lextonfaster then os x01:08
odd-Sometimes I can't open the shell and shit, just crap issues01:08
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lextonhas anyone gotten the dlink dwl-122 wifi usb adaptor working on ubuntu?01:09
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naliothlexton: just keep in mind that breezy is still in production AND ppc and amd64 arches are behind in everything01:09
lextonindeed01:09
Nikopolloststryk, what's your problem?01:09
naliothlexton: i have several macs with ubuntu on them01:10
lextonnalioth, have you gotten kismet running on ppc hardware with ubuntu?01:10
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naliothlexton: nope01:10
naliothlexton: it's doable, tho, i just havent felt the need01:10
mhzwhere can I get the official cd cover from???01:10
lextonI'm going to give it a shot01:11
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thehil does anyone know if there is a syntax highlighting GUI for umb-scheme?01:12
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naliothlexton: if you have diffeculties, gimme a shout and i'll put you in contact with another ppc user who has done it01:13
loststrykNikopol, i replied, are you recieving ?01:13
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Nikopolloststryk, no01:13
lextonthanks nalioth01:13
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Nikopolloststryk, seems to be a problem01:13
Nikopolok let's do it here01:13
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Nikopolwhat's the problem loststryk ?01:14
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loststrykgftpd works fine; it's great; apart from one thing; it wont connect to glftpd / drftpd servers that require auth tls authentication; any ideas ?01:14
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esac_anybody using evolution with exchange ? i try to add an account and all it asks for is a username (and doesn't let me hit forward)01:14
iL_padrinohi01:14
Nikopolloststryk, sorry not sure there01:14
Nikopolloststryk, not a problem I've come up against :(01:15
iL_padrinoi need some like http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages01:15
iL_padrinobut for ubuntu01:15
NikopolI'll have a look around and see what I can find though loststryk01:15
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loststryk:( whats the correct command to install a .deb file ?01:15
funkyHathow easy would it be to use an ubuntu live CD as a temporary dhcp server?01:15
iL_padrinofor search the depends of gcc-3.401:15
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iL_padrinoany one can helpme ???01:16
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Nikopolloststryk, sudo dpkg -i foo.deb01:16
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dadhi all01:16
dadits dad again01:16
funkyHathi dad01:16
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loststrykty L(01:16
loststryk:)01:16
dadmy dsl ruputer broke dwown any suggestions?01:17
Nikopolloststryk, glad I could at least help u there! ;)01:17
marcin_anthi all01:17
funkyHatget a new one? :D01:17
marcin_antgot some short and simple questions01:17
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dadlol its 700 buks01:17
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Nikopolloststryk, you have configured the tls file correctly yeah?01:18
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marcin_antwhat firewall front-end is preferred for ubuntu/gnome?01:18
dadmy tremble fans malfunctioning too01:18
dadcan someone lend me 900 buks01:18
funkyHat:| 700$ for a dsl router?01:18
dadlol im just bein stuopid01:18
dadthis is his kid01:19
dadlol01:19
loststrykNikopol, not sure01:19
loststrykam still new to ubuntu01:19
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dadlol no msn in linux01:19
arcanistheroguehey, i have a question about the repositores01:19
dadbooooring01:19
arcanistherogue*repositories01:19
Nikopolok that may be the issue01:19
bimberimarcin_ant: i've seen firestarter often recommended01:19
loststrykhow can i check ?01:19
Nikopolloststryk, does the tls auth worth with other servers?01:19
arcanistheroguei have been getting alot of 404s this past week, many broken packages01:19
Nikopolif it does then that's probably not the problem01:20
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marcin_antbimberi, heh I use firestarter and got a little problem with it01:20
loststrykno gftp wont give me the option to connect sftp etc01:20
brad[] dad: Eh? I'm on MSN right now01:20
brad[] k01:20
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marcin_antI would like to speed up my browser a little so I installed and configured squid01:20
arcanistherogueis this normal?  I was thinking perhaps because breezy is coming out soon, and support for hoary is winding down.  am i right?  I wasn't here for the upgrade to hoary, i dont know what happens...01:20
marcin_antas transparent proxy01:20
Nikopolmmm01:21
marcin_antthe problem is that I don't know how to configure iptables to redirect traffic from port 80 to my proxy01:21
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marcin_antand how to configure iptables to do this on requests from localhost01:21
marcin_antand finally how to do this in firestarter scripts01:21
Nikopolloststryk, really at a loss here01:22
netmonkis it possible to activate a network profile from the command line?01:22
loststrykgonna try kasablanca see if that helps01:22
Nikopolloststryk, tell me what you're trying to do01:22
Nikopolok01:22
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Nikopolloststryk, are you trying to use the client to transfer files to another server01:22
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loststryki know ssl is installed and working, because pftpfxp-mew is wrokign fine for fxp'ing between such auth tls servers01:22
linnerhello everyone01:23
mewthreeplease, does someone have links for java jre and w32codecs?01:23
Nikopolah so it's solely gftp that's playing up then?01:23
naliotharcanistherogue: support for hoary will go on for many months01:23
loststrykyup01:23
naliothmewthree: yes. hoary or breezy?01:23
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horetorehi everyone, is there a guide somewhere to installing ruby properly on ubuntu (breezy)?01:23
arcanistheroguenalioth: oh... then why am i getting so many errors with the repositories, and will these be fixed when i upgrade to breezy?01:23
naliotharcanistherogue: after oct 13, yees01:24
Nikopolhttp://modeemi.cs.tut.fi/~jonni/gftpd/ssl_and_tls_gftpd.HOWTO01:24
Nikopolyou tried that loststryk ?01:24
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arcanistheroguenalioth: awesome!! is that when breezy is coming out, and can i order cds of it ?01:24
naliotharcanistherogue: if you order cds now, you'll most likely get breezy ones01:24
arcanistherogueniiice!01:24
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mewthreei need java and W32codecs... does someone have repositories or links for Hoary?01:26
rob_pmarcin_ant:  I've done what you are trying to do with iptables...  If you're interested in the commands, I could probably find them on my old server for you...01:26
naliothmewthree: here you go http://www.giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/01:26
Bartimaeushey, can anyone tell me how to upgrade to breezy?01:26
loststrykok kasablanca works a dream :)01:26
jroeswhat's a really conservative setting for X with respect to monitors?  I've tried knoppix on two diff machines with the same monitor, and the monitor just shuts off when X starts01:26
naliothBartimaeus: sure. read the channel /topic01:26
Nikopolloststryk, stick with that then :D01:26
mewthreeTHX u, nalioth01:26
Bartimaeusnalioth, thank you01:27
IorGieBartimaeus: read ubuntuguide.org01:27
arcanistheroguenalioth: your right, it says 5.10 cds. thanks.  im gonna order like 20 this time :D01:27
Nikopolloststryk, gftp has been quite unstable in some of the recent releases so stick with what works ;)01:27
naliothIorGie: please dont recommend that01:27
IorGiewhy?01:27
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naliotharcanistherogue: convert your friends01:27
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arcanistherogue:D01:28
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Nikopolloststryk, bummer :(01:28
naliothubotu: tell IorGie about ubuntuguide01:28
jroesanyone know some really conservative hsync and vsync values ?01:28
Nikopolfor the basic setting up of repos ubuntuguide isn't bad, no?01:28
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naliothNikopol: if you want a dead box within a month, sure it's fine01:29
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Nikopolnalioth, really? The repository advice is crap ?01:29
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Nikopolwhat the heck happened with all those DCs?01:30
IorGiethen tell me what is the correct way to upgrade?01:30
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naliothNikopol: yes it advises repos that will break your box01:30
linnerooh netsplit01:30
naliothIorGie: read the channel /topic01:30
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linnerthat was yucky01:30
!dmwaters:*! Hi all! One of our rotation servers just split. Looking into the problem now01:30
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mewthreedoes someone experience X crashes with radeon after properly installing fglrx 8.16.20?01:31
Zeke1how do u set apt-get to get from another site?01:31
Nikopolnalioth, ok - I'll watch out to not recommend it then. is it the backports you're referring to or the marillat?01:31
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IorGieor multiverse?01:32
NikopolZeke1, edit your /etc/apt/sources.list01:32
naliothNikopol: marillat will definitely kill your box. backports are not advised for constant use01:32
naliothIorGie: universe and multiverse are fine01:32
Nikopolthanks nalioth - good to know01:32
Zeke1Nikopol, and where can i find a list of sites01:32
IorGieok thanks, i'll keep that in mind when advising others01:32
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naliothNikopol: IorGie: you can get the sources like this01:33
nalioth!sources01:33
ubotusources is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)01:33
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Nikopolnalioth, cool will remember that01:34
Bartimaeushey all, is there an easy way to install java on breezy?01:34
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NikopolZeke1, you don't have any pertuclar ones in mind?01:34
naliothBartimaeus: http://giannaros.org/tor/bt/01:34
Nikopol!respositories01:34
ubotuNot a clue, Nikopol01:34
Nikopol!respository01:34
ubotuNikopol: I give up, what is it?01:34
Bartimaeusnalioth, thanks01:34
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billythekidHey, do you guys know how to uninstall ubuntu?01:35
naliothNikopol: /msg ubotu repos01:35
Zeke1Nikopol, is there a South african one01:35
Nikopolnalioth, thanks ;)01:35
naliothbillythekid: yes, a windows install will do nicely01:35
billythekidtheres no way to get my E drive back?01:35
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gloriais this chat line for the world's smartest linux users???  I have it and dont know how to work with it. I need help with it01:36
naliothbillythekid: we need more info01:36
billythekidcause I erased a whole bunch of shit on my E drive when I installed Ubuntu.01:36
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naliothgloria: ask us01:36
billythekidNow, it doesn't even say that the E drive exists.01:36
naliothbillythekid: if you erased it, it's gone01:36
billythekidI didn't erase it, I made a 5 gb partition to install Ubuntu onto.01:36
billythekidAnd now it doesn't show any reminance of it.01:36
IorGieon your E drive?01:36
billythekidyeah01:36
naliothbillythekid: did you use partition magic to make your partition?01:37
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IorGieyou made a partition on the free space?01:37
billythekidI used whatever came with the Ubuntu install CD01:37
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firis400salut01:38
billythekidNo, I just made a partition on the E drive01:38
billythekidCause I knew there was about 5 gigs free01:38
gloriais there a web site that I can look up and get an idea what im working with??01:38
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naliothgloria: wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation01:38
IorGieand now you can access it from within ubuntu?01:38
firis400hy01:38
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Bartimaeusnalioth, is there anything special i need to do to install kava when it's downloaded?01:38
firis400hy01:38
linnerfiris400: hello01:39
billythekidAccess what?01:39
naliothBartimaeus: it's a standard .deb file01:39
firis400hello01:39
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Bartimaeusnalioth, so do i just run it?01:39
IorGieyour data on the E drive01:39
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naliothBartimaeus: are you familiar with installing deb files?01:39
billythekidNo, I can't view anything on the E drive.01:40
Bartimaeusnalioth, nope01:40
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naliothBartimaeus: it's quite easy.01:40
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Samhainhow do I install the install-sh?01:40
SamhainI need it to compile something01:40
firis400E drive01:40
Bartimaeusnalioth, how do i do it?01:40
linneri'm trying to figure out if I should try kubuntu... but i want to know the advantages over GNOME...01:40
IorGiedid you mount the partition you want to access?01:40
billythekidDon't linner01:40
billythekidit's a hassle01:41
billythekidUm..  mount the partition?01:41
firis400do you speak french01:41
linnerbillythekid: why?01:41
billythekidpetit peu01:41
firis400ok01:41
Nikopolfiris400, oui pourquoi?01:41
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billythekidNothings compatible with it01:41
adjacentjust me or were there alot of upgrades in breezy today?01:41
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linnerwow.....01:42
firis400parce que moi je parle francai01:42
linnerhello netsplit... again01:42
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IorGiebillythekid: http://ubuntuguide.org/#windows01:42
firis400bye01:42
Bartimaeusall, does anyone know how to install a .deb file?01:42
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Nikopolfiris400, ok - tu cherches de l'aide en francais?01:42
linnerbillythekid: what do you mean "nothing" is compatible?01:42
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firis400oui01:42
linneri thought it was the same build as ubuntu but with the kde desktop01:42
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Nikopolfiris400, quel est ton probleme?01:42
lama_Nikopol: isnt an player name from Immortels film?01:42
Samhainwhat is install.sh?01:42
thinmani can not send mail at local user, but i can send mail to the world...can someone give me a tips how to solve the problem01:42
timmowBartimaeus dpkg -i filename.deb01:42
billythekidi don't know, linner.  don't listen to me01:43
Bartimaeustimmow, thanks01:43
firis400non je parle pas bien anglais01:43
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linnerbillythekid: ok... at least you're honest01:43
Nikopollama_, correct though it was comic strips originally by Enki Bilal01:43
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thinmani am using postfix01:43
timmowBartimaeus: youw will have to use sudo01:43
naliothfiris400: en #ubuntu-fr, s'il vous plait01:43
adjacent!tell me about flash01:43
Nikopolfiris400, pas un probleme :)01:43
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HrdwrBoB!ops01:43
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ubotuwell, ops is Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth01:43
billythekidwho the hell gets their jollies off that?01:44
adjacenthaha. nice01:44
timmowlinner: kubuntu takes over your gnome menus01:44
HrdwrBoBbillythekid: really, really sad people01:44
lama_Nikopol, l'actrice etait vraiment belle. Miss France de l'annee 1994 si je trompe pas01:44
thoreauputicfiris400: tu peux joindre #ubuntu-fr01:44
naliothhow unoriginal, too01:44
firis400do you have msn01:44
naliothfrancais en #ubuntu-fr, s'il vous plait01:44
Nikopollama_, qqchose Hardy je pense01:44
linnerthank you01:44
linnernalioth: i was trying to figure out how to do that01:44
timmowin fact anyone know what happens if you install kubuntu under a different user name? or is there a way to stop it cluttering up gnome in a KDE way?01:44
Nikopoloups ok nalioth :)01:44
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linnergod lord!  what is going on???  netsplits all over the place01:45
naliothtimmow: nothing will happen. you have to use sudo to install anything01:45
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firis400do you have msn01:45
!dmwaters:*! Hi all! This rotation server seems to still be having problems. We've shut down the ircd on that box for now, and we'll keep checking on it.01:45
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Nikopolfiris400, no01:45
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firis400ok01:45
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resiakNikopol: Ping01:45
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Nikopolresiak, pong01:46
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bimberilinner|STARBUCKS: there was a global notice - "We're experiencing problems with a main rotation server"01:46
firis400how old are you01:46
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esac_is anybody using eclipse with c# ? if so, what do i install to get c# functionality ?01:46
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timmownalioth: ok so the menus are global?  I suppose that is obvious really :) Sorry01:46
firis400how old are you01:47
Nikopolfiris400, neither here nor there - you want French Ubuntu support join ubuntu-fr01:47
linner|STARBUCKSfiris400: this is a ubuntu chat channel... do you have a question about ubuntu?01:47
bob2firis400: please?01:47
naliothfiris400: ask your a/s/l stuff in #ubuntu-offtopic please01:47
resiakNikopol: Well then01:47
Arkainiumlol01:47
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linner|STARBUCKSbimberi: oh okay.... i didn't see that... thanks!01:48
crimsunesac_, http://www.improve-technologies.com/alpha/esharp/01:48
firis400ther is no ubuntu fr01:48
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thoreauputichey linner|STARBUCKS - how's it all going? Configurations sorted out OK ?01:49
naliothlinner|STARBUCKS: you musta had your nose in the grand-giraffe-choco-mocha-mint-whiskey-latte01:49
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Nikopolthere is01:49
Nikopoldo \/join #ubuntu-fr01:49
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linner|STARBUCKSthoreauputic: absolutely not! :)  That's why I'm on my windows partition right now01:49
Arkainiumis there a way to disable hal in gnome so I don't keep getting that message?01:49
billythekidman, that link you gave me isn't working, iorgie01:49
linner|STARBUCKSthoreauputic: but thanks for asking! :)01:49
thoreauputiclinner|STARBUCKS: :(01:49
thoreauputicheh01:50
firis400bot how old are you01:50
billythekidi can't mount the E drive01:50
IorGieyou cant mount a drive, you have to mount the partition01:50
Nikopolfiris400, what do you want from this?01:50
naliothfiris400: this is a help channel, not a socializing one, please ask your a/s/l stuff in #ubuntu-offtopic01:50
firis400b01:50
linner|STARBUCKSfiris400: seriously ... this is an UBUNTU q/a session only.... please either join another basic channel or take your offtopic socializing to #ubuntu-offtopic01:50
thoreauputicfiris400: #ubuntu-fr01:50
firis400bye01:50
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billythekidokay, iorgie.  that makes no sense to me.  I don't even know what the partition is called01:51
linner|STARBUCKSthoreauputic: if I could at least get the clock working properly... then I could use it a little more...01:51
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arkanes!tell arkanes about w3201:51
billythekidyou mean the label of the partition?01:51
IorGiebillythekid: how many partitions are there?01:51
linner|STARBUCKSthoreauputic: so for now i'm going to have to use the windows partition until the final breezy is released01:51
billythekidi don't know!01:51
billythekidis there a way to see them?01:51
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billythekidthere should only be 3 partitions01:51
Nikopolwould gparted help in this situation?01:51
billythekid1 on the C drive, and 2 on the E drive01:51
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naliothbillythekid: open a terminal and type "sudo fdisk -l"01:52
linner|STARBUCKSthoreauputic: how's everything on your side/01:52
linner|STARBUCKS?01:52
thoreauputiclinner|STARBUCKS: hmm - OK.  sudo invoke-rc.d ntpdate  doesn't reset your clock ?01:52
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linner|STARBUCKSbimberi: thank you for the lilo notice... :)01:52
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linner|STARBUCKSthoreauputic: well, immediately yes... but it doesn't keep it updated01:53
linner|STARBUCKS:(01:53
thinmani can not send mail at local user, but i can send mail to the world...can someone give me a tips how to solve the problem01:53
thoreauputiclinner|STARBUCKS: I just discovered "synergy" - cool little prog that lets me use mouse and keyboard on two mavhines at once :D01:53
lama_can somebody help me patching the xserver-xorg package?01:53
billythekidfdisk -l [-b SSZ]  [-u]  DISK01:53
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billythekidwhat would i replace DISK with?01:53
linner|STARBUCKSthoreauputic: oh how cool is that?01:53
lama_I have trouble with it.01:53
tritiumhi linner|STARBUCKS01:53
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linner|STARBUCKSthoreauputic: send me the link... I'd like to check it out01:53
linner|STARBUCKStritium: hey sweetie :)01:53
thoreauputiclinner|STARBUCKS: it's like magic *grin* !01:53
bimberilinner|STARBUCKS: no worries! - could you order me one of those grand-giraffe-choco-whateveries please? :)01:53
tritium:)01:53
linner|STARBUCKSthoreauputic: LOL01:53
thoreauputiclinner|STARBUCKS: apt-cache search synergy  :)01:54
Nikopolhow does one extract files from a .cab file?01:54
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thoreauputiclinner|STARBUCKS: it's in universe01:54
IorGiebillythekid: just "sudo fdisk -l"01:54
linner|STARBUCKSthoreauputic: oh okay... i'll give it a whirl when I'm back on the ubuntu boot01:54
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linner|STARBUCKSsince i have to be wireless right now i'm using windoze01:55
bob2thinman: you need to define the problem more strictly. for instance, what does your mail log say?01:55
billythekidi did that, iorgie01:55
thoreauputiclinner|STARBUCKS:  http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/running.html01:55
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naliothNikopol: install "cabextract"01:55
linner|STARBUCKSthoreauputic: oh you rock man01:55
thoreauputiclinner|STARBUCKS: it works with windows too, apparently01:55
Nikopolnalioth, thank you01:55
firis400ho speak french01:55
os2maclinner you got it working?01:55
timmowlama_ what sort of patch?01:55
Nikopolfiris400, stop it01:55
naliothfiris400: #ubuntu-fr s'il vous plait01:55
firis400merde01:56
IorGiebillythekid: if there is just one hardrive you can use /dev/hda for DISK01:56
linner|STARBUCKSthoreauputic: does it have to be a wireless keyboard?01:56
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tritiumfiris400: careful01:56
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Nikopols/he's not looking for help at all01:56
linner|STARBUCKSos2mac: hello :)  nope... :(01:56
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os2macsorry.01:57
os2macI am back on mine.01:57
linner|STARBUCKSos2mac: so rather than buggin' everyone for more help... i'm just going to let it sit until the final version comes out and cross my fingers that I get the resolution to these pesky problems01:57
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firis400shut up01:57
linner|STARBUCKSwow01:57
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billythekidthis is fucking shit01:57
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billythekidi just want to erase it01:57
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billythekidgah01:57
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os2machmmm01:57
naliothubotu: tell firis400 about conduct01:57
daakuanyone use vnc to connect to windows? i need to figure out a way to lock the desktop without vnc kicking me out!01:58
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os2macat work01:58
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linner|STARBUCKSos2mac: what's been going on there?01:58
linner|STARBUCKSos2mac: are you guys doing a conversion to linux?01:58
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mentoki've used vnc on windows before, but only on the server end with someone else connecting01:59
billythekidi don't suppose that there's a partitioning program built right into ubuntu?01:59
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naliothbillythekid: yes, parted for console or qt- or g- for a gui01:59
Nikopolbillythekid, there kind of is but all partitioning is risky01:59
linner|STARBUCKSbillythekid: I believe yes there is01:59
IorGiebillythekid: sudo apt-get install gparted01:59
os2macohhh no... I work on a Trusted Solaris 8 network01:59
linner|STARBUCKSos2mac: now aren't your fortunate!!! seriously01:59
os2macnot really02:00
linner|STARBUCKSos2mac: you really are old school :)02:00
billythekideverythings fucked up now anyways, so it's worth the risk02:00
os2macit's kind of a pain in the ass most of the time02:00
Nikopolbillythekid, be careful though02:00
linner|STARBUCKSos2mac: really?  how come?  it's unix02:00
naliothyou guys watch your language please02:00
os2macbecause it's Trusted Unix.02:00
os2macnot the same thing.02:00
IorGiebillythekid: then what are you trying to do? Acces data on your E drive? Or tying to erase it?02:00
billythekidaccess02:00
linner|STARBUCKSos2mac: oh................02:00
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timmowdoes anyone else have any problems with one million mono processes randomly running and locking up their system? If I could diagnose it better I would...02:01
os2macand I have a bunch of really expensive peripherals.02:01
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linner|STARBUCKSos2mac: forgive me... I'm just now reading (actually right this very second) about all the different *nixs02:01
IorGiejust find out whats the partition is called and then mount it,02:01
Nikopoltimmow, mono can do that ;)02:01
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linner|STARBUCKSwb tritium02:01
billythekidi have no clue how to find out what it's called!02:01
timmowdo I just have to live with it?02:01
tritiumthanks, linner|STARBUCKS02:01
os2macdo a google for Trusted Solaris.02:01
linner|STARBUCKSok02:01
naliothbillythekid: install gparted and have a look02:02
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billythekidi did02:02
IorGiehow many hard drives do you have02:02
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Nikopolso fire up gparted02:02
billythekidi'm looking at it right now.  it says i only have one: /dev/hda102:02
billythekidwhich isn't true02:02
Nikopolonly one partition?02:02
linner|STARBUCKSos2mac: i'm reading a review on it now rather than the manu's specs02:02
billythekidcause this is installed on my secondary drive02:02
thoreauputiclinner|STARBUCKS: re; 09:56 < linner|STARBUCKS> thoreauputic: does it have to be a wireless keyboard?02:02
thoreauputiclinner|STARBUCKS: answer is "no"02:02
os2machehe02:02
mentokhas anyone tried a iPod color out as far as partitioning goes?02:03
billythekidit has that then one 'unallocated' partition02:03
IorGieare you sure you selected the right hard drive in gparted?02:03
billythekidAH02:03
billythekidsmart guy!02:03
billythekidyeah i got the right one now02:03
IorGie;)02:03
linner|STARBUCKSos2mac: lord that's expensive...02:03
linner|STARBUCKSos2mac: a grand per seat?02:03
Nikopolbillythekid, good :D02:03
linner|STARBUCKSjeez02:03
os2macfrom Sun's site02:03
os2macOffering unmatched levels of privacy, increased accountability and reduced risk of security violations - and proven effective in Government, Intelligence and Security agencies and gaining a foothold in Finance, Healthcare, Retail, and other industries - the Trusted Solaris Operating System (OS) provides built-in security on a commercial-grade OS. With the Trusted Solaris OS, users from the desktop to the data center continue to reduce security02:03
os2macurity of their networks.02:03
naliothos2mac: please, mister dont paste like that02:03
os2macI am done...02:04
os2macsorry02:04
billythekidokay, it has the 5 Gig partition, which I created for Ubuntu.  then it has the 14 Gb 'unallocated'02:04
naliothos2mac: the URL would be fine, if offtopic02:04
naliothbillythekid: your E: data is gone02:04
billythekidshit02:04
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os2macand yes it's very expensive but not nearly as expensive as the peripherals.02:04
billythekidthe main thing is to get the whole thing visible though, then I'm gonna run a data-recovery program02:05
billythekidcause my mom is pissed02:05
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billythekidi deleted a bunch of her stuff by accident02:05
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naliothbillythekid: i wish you the best of luck02:05
billythekidhaha thanks02:05
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billythekidhrm. okay. i'm out. thanks for your help02:06
IorGieif you have windows on the other drive you could give it a try, best luck though02:06
IorGienalioth: Seem like a lot of users hit the return button to many times when installing ubuntu and erase their whole drive02:06
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naliothIorGie: one does need to be careful when setting up for ubuntu02:07
agushihey!!02:07
agushin e 1 there?02:08
IorGietrue, very true, not only for ubuntu though02:08
NikopolThere's also a weird quirk in windows with empty space02:08
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absenthIorGie, nalioth, I managed to do that with cAos 2.2  and it wasn't for lack of care.  I just fsck'd up in cfdisk.  :/02:08
Nikopolif you delete some unused data space it will render XP unbootable02:08
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Nikopolnot Ubuntu's fault but some stupid programming on the Redmond front02:09
reterwhat are the current backports repositories02:09
absenthreter I'm informed that backports = the spawn of satan.02:09
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reteri added this   eb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted02:10
naliothreter: for hoary?02:10
reterbut that is no longer working02:10
reteryes nalioth02:10
naliothreter: you are missing a "d"02:10
reternalioth, i meant to add the d there... but that site is down or something02:10
reteris there another one02:10
naliothreter: planet.ubuntulinux.org  search for "backport"02:11
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gloriahow can I download music from the net02:11
naliothgloria: ask that in #ubuntu-offtopic please02:11
Bartimaeus*02:11
adjacenthmm. the wiki is saying to use flashplugin-nonfree. does this exist for breezy?02:12
IorGiegloria: you might want to try aMule02:12
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Nikopolnalioth, actually cabextract wouldn't work but unshield did. :)02:13
vbgunzhow do you connect to a Windows share?02:13
naliothNikopol: ty 4 info02:13
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bimberivbgunz: Places -> Connect To Server...02:13
loststryki need java runtime installed02:14
loststrykugh02:14
vbgunzunder network configuration i do not have options to set workgroup...02:14
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loststryk:(02:14
naliothloststryk: hoary or breezy?02:14
vbgunzbimberi:02:14
loststrykhoary02:14
reternalioth, they took the backports off the net02:14
vbgunzI've been doing that for a while02:14
naliothloststryk: http://www.giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/02:14
naliothreter: only the illegal ones02:14
BartimaeusAll, is breezy stable, seeing as it is brand new?02:14
Nikopolnalioth, unshield works with .cabs  with installshield headers which cabextract can't02:14
vbgunztrying //server username@server... a bunch of things02:14
adjacenthow do i get firefox flash plugin for breezy?02:14
hajikiis colony5 just an updated breezy cd?02:14
jskhi from where i can download open office themes02:14
naliothhajiki: yes02:15
hajikicool thanks02:15
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hajikianyone on breezy, is nautilus constantly crashing on you?02:15
IorGieBartimaeus: it's quite stable, however is is still beta no guarantees02:15
BartimaeusIorGie, cool, thanks02:15
IorGiehajiki: nope, not here02:15
timmowhajiki: nope not for me02:15
wagnerBRAZILIAN!02:15
loststrykty nalioth02:15
rob_pvbgunz:  Was it you that was asking about encrypted filesystems yesterday?02:15
jskcan anyone help me out02:15
hajikiIorGie, did you get all the updates that came in today?02:15
loststryk:)02:15
vbgunzno but currently the network configuration utility is frigging nuts... it keeps wiping out my wireless settings and defaulting to a lan connection...02:16
vbgunzrob_p: yeah02:16
IorGieBartimaeus: i use dualboot hoary/breezy on my PC just in case.02:16
timmowvbgunz: its always been nuts :)02:16
vbgunzrob_p: how you doing02:16
BartimaeusIorGie, ill try that02:16
rob_pvbgunz:  Well, apparently ubuntu has almost everything you need to setup an encrypted block device!02:16
IorGiehajiki: jup, lot of xserver pakages again02:16
vbgunztimmow: it could be my fault but I suare it's nuts ;)02:16
BartimaeusIorGie, can you have both OS's use the same files?02:16
rob_pvbgunz:  I'm good.  You?02:17
vbgunzrob_p: wow, dude you are the man02:17
hajikidamn wonder whats going on w/ mine then02:17
vbgunzrob_p: feeling better :)02:17
IorGieBartimaeus: i have four partitions: breezy, hoary, /home and swap works like a charm02:17
BartimaeusIorGie, ill do that then, thanks a lot!!02:17
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vbgunzrob_p: if I could on the fly encrypt/decrypt all information in my home directory I am good02:17
linlinHow can I make a perticular directory readable by any user at any time, even after new files are added?02:18
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rob_pvbgunz:  I just added a second hard disk and made it a crypto disk.  Now, everything that gets written to it is encrypted.  Anything that gets read from it HAS to be decrypted (which happens on the fly)!02:18
jskplease help me out02:18
IorGieBartimaeus: no problem!02:18
timmowI always wondered if there were an easy way to list all the packages you have installed for easy upgrades...02:18
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vbgunzrob_p: man dude... in a day ;)02:18
naliothjsk: try #openoffice because openoffice themes are kinda out of our purview here02:18
naliothjsk: www.deviantart.com02:19
vbgunzrob_p: I had to go back into Windows and get some work done... it kept me busy02:19
vbgunzrob_p: you got links?02:19
rob_pvbgunz:  Here's the guide... it has pretty much everything you need to make it work:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EncryptedFilesystemHowto02:19
vbgunzrob_p: I'd take anything you got02:19
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rob_pvbgunz:  I think all you have to do is apt-get a helper script which handles the "heavy work" with dm-crypt.  It's called, "cryptsetup" as I recall.02:21
vbgunzrob_p: thank you... major thanks! I currently have an 80G HD and Ubuntu on a 7.5G partition... I was just thinking earlier about redoing the HD and devoting it entirely to Ubuntu... *because* vmware seems to make Windows XP run better on Ubuntu... maybe I am going nuts ;)02:21
rob_pvbgunz:  Anyway, just follow the guide... it's pretty much a cake job!  Very easy indeed.  :-)02:21
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vbgunztomorrow I will dedicate my time to doing it and making it happen... I am really very satisfied with Ubuntu and am prepared to learn... Currently my task at hand is trying to get access to a Windows share... it's obviously not as easy as i thought it would be...02:22
rob_pvbgunz:  Do you have samba installed?02:23
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vbgunzrob_p: yes I do, I did it so to share files back... but currently my first step is accessing Windows from Ubuntu first... its just not happening for me :(02:23
bpuccioanyone use an ubuntu box as a HTPC and have any recommendations for a remote?02:24
timmowvbgunz: are you using smbmount?02:24
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bob2"HTPC"?02:24
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mnsskhi02:24
IorGieHome Theather PC?02:24
HrdwrBoByeah02:24
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vbgunzrob_p: it seems if I hit connect to server and enter the server name as on Windows //server it doesn't work.. if I enter just the name I can see the folder being shared but am told nothing is accessible (error of some sort)02:24
mentokhi everyone, i'm wondering if anyone knows how to decrypt *.wma files, i have some from some cds that i can't find02:25
vbgunzrob_p: smbmount?02:25
bpuccioHTPC = home theater pc02:25
rob_pvbgunz:  I see.  Well, I was going to suggest double-checking your /etc/samba/smb.conf file for configuration errors but apparently you've had it working in the past?02:25
mnsskanyone up for some ipw2200 debugging ?02:25
timmowmentok: mplayer can do that, but I built it from source...02:25
mnsskneed real help!!02:25
mnsskmentok, mplayer does that!02:25
mentokmplayer?02:25
vbgunzno, I just installed samba about 2o minutes ago... then I tried accessing shares... nothing working :(02:26
mentokwhere can i read more?02:26
timmowvbgunz: or mount -t smbfs02:26
mnsskyeah..search for linux mplayer in google..go to fist link02:26
naliothmentok: you'll need to ask elsewhere on that subject please02:26
mnsskmplayerhq.com/net ..02:26
mentokok02:26
mentoksweet02:26
mentokthanks :-D02:26
timmowvbgunz: although that involves the command line...02:26
naliothmentok: let us know if it works02:26
vbgunzthis is just one of those steps which will help me move closer to using Ubuntu on a full time basis except for some work which is only accomplishable for and on Windows02:26
mentokdef02:26
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vbgunzrob_p: im cool with the CLI02:26
naliothmnssk: mentok has DRMd wma files02:27
mentokthanks, i appriciate the help02:27
NecrosanOkay, what can I disable on a laptop (366mhz/128mb ram) to make it feel more responsive?02:27
NecrosanIt feels slower than windows.02:27
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vbgunzi'll try mount -t smbfs02:27
HrdwrBoBturn it off :/02:27
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bob2Necrosan: use something other than gnome02:27
Alzabarhi people02:27
mnssknalioth, oh..dont know what they mean, but i believe in mplayer :) so much..that it can do anything02:27
esac_Necrosan: probably because it IS slower than windows :)02:27
DayylinGreetings all02:27
esac_Necrosan: but bob2 is right, try XFCE02:27
mnssknalioth, can you help me with ipw2200 of ubuntu ?02:27
NecrosanAlso, I'm using 5.10, and all this usplash hype, I'm not even seeing usplash happen.02:27
HrdwrBoBNecrosan: get more ram02:27
shekharhello i am having major problems with evolution crashing all the time, can someone help?02:28
Necrosanesac_: Heh, XFCE sux.02:28
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NecrosanHrdwrBoB: Not really a possibility.02:28
NecrosanI have about $0 to invest in this POS.02:28
bob2Necrosan: install ubuntu-desktop02:28
vbgunzrob_p: Sorry, couldn't display all the contents of "Windows Network: server".02:28
Necrosanbob2: What'll that do?02:28
NecrosanBTW, is usplash not working because im not using grub?02:28
AlzabarI have trouble getting ubuntu to detect my network02:28
mnsskIPW220002:28
sudonimshekhar: I also have problems with Evo - do you use it with an Exchange server?02:28
mnsskhelp !!02:28
esac_Necrosan: then fluxbox, fvwm, blackbox, whatever. if you want more responsiveness, dont use gnome or kde02:28
timmowvbgunz: okay you need to do apt-get install smbfs02:28
Alzabaron this pc but it work fine on my other one02:28
bob2Necrosan: if you don't use grub, you're on your own02:28
vbgunzrob_p: I entered the command you mentioned and then tried connecting to network... thats always the response I get back02:28
shekharsudonim:  no02:29
mentokanyone know where i should go to ask about DRM *.wma?02:29
bob2mnssk: please don't be irritating02:29
Necrosanbob2: hah, ubuntu installer forced me to use it02:29
Necrosankind of picked it automatically02:29
vbgunztimmow: what would that do?02:29
NecrosanBecause I'm running / as XFS.02:29
bob2Necrosan: ubuntu has always defaulted to grub02:29
timmowinstall smbmount02:29
NecrosanNah02:29
bob2ok...02:29
mnsskbob2, sorry!02:29
sudonimshekhar: I thought it was just because I was using exchange that it was buggy, but maybe the build is no good02:29
esac_mnssk: what is your full question about ip2200 ?02:29
NecrosanIt defaults to lilo if you choose a decent FS. ;)02:29
rob_pvbgunz:  I'd make sure your /etc/samba/smb.conf file is configured properly (correct workgroup name, etc.).  Also, don't overlook the security authentication.02:29
shekharsudonim:  evolution has been giving me problems in hoary and breezy02:29
timmowits a nicer way to access windows shares and seems more predictable in my experience02:29
mnsskesac_,  my wireless has a problem. basically i have installed the latest drivers from ubuntu wiki02:29
NecrosanHow can i zap lilo and throw grub on it?02:30
esac_Necrosan: don't worry about usplash, its fugly anyway :)02:30
shekharSeveas:  are you there? can you advise on how to fix evolution?02:30
vbgunzrob_p: I will try apt-get install smbfs as suggested by timmow02:30
esac_mnssk: did you get those drivers to work ?02:30
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Necrosanesac_: heh, I'm seeing really ugly stuff at boot though. This laptop is going to a friend which is why I want to "beautify" it.02:30
reterhow can i add my printer when its not on the its database?02:30
mnsskesac_, i got them working02:30
bob2yeah, I love XFS's ability to replace file contents with NULLs on unclean shitdown02:30
rob_pvbgunz:  Are you using share level or user level auth?02:30
esac_is there a meta package for xfce4 ?02:30
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crimsunesac_, xfce402:30
bob2vbgunz: do note that samba has nothing at all to do with accesing windows share from linux02:31
mnsskesac_, i have ieee80211 working..and ipw2200 driver working02:31
mnsskesac_,  when i do this iwlist eth1 scan .. i get networks..02:31
esac_crimsun: doh, missed that one in the output, sorry02:31
vbgunzbob2... I just want both machines to talk with one another...02:31
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mnsskesac_, but when i do a dhclient after doing the iwconfig, there is a problem.. it is not able to get me an ip02:31
n00bsterhello02:31
bob2vbgunz: that's great, but samba is at most half of the problem02:31
mnsskesac_, i have the error file.02:31
vbgunzvbgunz: I usually back up my files to that system and that systems backsup to mines02:31
mnsskesac_, i can show it to you somehow..02:31
n00bsteri installed ubuntu today i encountered some problems.02:31
IorGien00bster: tell us02:32
rob_pvbgunz:  Are you not trying to access your Linux box from Windows?02:32
esac_mnssk: paste.ubuntulinux.nl02:32
n00bsterthe disk manager wont let me choose my partitions , when i do a brows to them02:32
n00bsterthey all seem to be grayed out, and i cannot select them,02:32
n00bsteri changed my GID to admin, but no change, i did not had this problem with the live-cd02:32
vbgunzyes, I might need to as I do have several PCs in which I share information with... I do not wish to stay stranded with Ubuntu when I know it's possible to share along02:32
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rob_pvbgunz:  Oh, I see now.   Linux to windows share.  My bad!02:33
vbgunzrob_p:02:33
Pyt3rgood night02:33
vbgunzrob_p: yeah both ways <->02:33
mnsskesac_,  surely02:33
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reteranyone know how to add a printer that is not on the database?02:33
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vbgunzI just installed apt-get install smbfs02:33
rob_pvbgunz:  Then yes, you will want to configure smb.conf correctly.02:33
naliothn00bster: you cant work with your disks while they are mounted02:34
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naliothn00bster: use the livecd to change your disk arrangements02:34
bob2vbgunz: sudo mount -t smbfs -o ro //192.168.22.98/stuff /mnt/kazoo02:34
vbgunzrob_p:  I will look into that right away, I believe Minnow mentioned something else, let me backtrack and find it if I can...02:34
bob2vbgunz: where the ip is the ip of the windows machine and stuff is the sharename02:34
n00bsterbut they are not..  i do not have access to them (i think)02:34
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timmowbob2: do you have to specify a username/password?02:35
mnsskesac_, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/262502:35
n00bsteri'm talking about my other FAT32 partitions02:35
vbgunzbob2, yeah I was trying something like that before...02:35
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vbgunzone sec02:35
klepas!info wordpress02:35
mnsskesac_, i have put the wired (eth0) dhclient, and wireless(eth1) dhclient02:35
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reteris there another #ubuntu channel?02:35
naliothreter: several02:35
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retertell me where02:36
n00bsterchange arrangements? what's that02:36
naliothreter: #ubuntu-offtopic02:36
vbgunzbob_2: I am checking that file now02:36
esac_mnssk: did you try just "ifdown eth1" and "ifup eth1" ?02:36
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mnsskesac_, i tried that..02:37
bob2vbgunz: file?02:37
mnsskesac_, i will try again02:37
bob2reter: why?02:37
naliothn00bster: working with your hard drives requires they be unmounted02:37
bob2timmow: not if you share things anonymously02:37
mnsskesac_, ifup eth1 is giving exactly the same messages02:37
esac_mnssk: you might try editing /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf and taking a look at the lease {} section. it is used to try to force a specific lease if you are having trouble getting one02:37
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reterbob: because i have been asking the same question and no one has an answer02:38
mnsskesac_, sure. i will try that and let you know.02:38
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vbgunzbob2: I am sorry... I got confused with you and rob_p because I was just getting so much attention (I love ya too) :)... someone mentioned editing the smb.conf  file... I believe rob_p did... I am trying to backttrack as the path/to was written...02:38
reterbob: if i need support i would like someone to help me02:38
n00bsterwait, perhaps i did not explained my self, I'm on ubuntu now, and i want access to win partitions.02:38
yawgmoth7When trying to get emu10ki-v0.20a(Soundblaster) i get this "/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-amd64-generic/build directory does not exist. Please edit the file 'config'02:38
yawgmoth7in this directory and set KERNEL_SOURCE to the correct location of your02:38
yawgmoth7kernel source.02:38
yawgmoth7" and this also "make[1] : *** [get_version]  Error 102:38
yawgmoth7make[1] : Leaving directory `/home/yawgmoth7/Desktop/Yawgmoth7/emu10k1-v0.20a/scripts'02:38
yawgmoth7make: *** [opts]  Error 202:38
mnsskesac_,  should I add .. the lease section of that ?02:38
yawgmoth7"02:38
bob2yawgmoth7: do not paste in here02:38
BicchiHow can i add an option to grub to boot into the command line, where it asks me for the username and password?02:38
vbgunzrob_p: thanks bro, I am going to look for that file now... /etc/samba/smb.conf02:39
bob2vbgunz: you do not need to  edit any samba options to mount a windows share02:39
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timmown00bster: what win? xp?02:39
esac_Bicchi: add the word "single" to the end of the kernel line02:39
n00bsteryes02:39
bob2yawgmoth7: sudo aptitude install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)02:39
vbgunzbob2, oh, ok so I just need to enter in that command you mentioned earlier?02:39
ZBlach|Awayhi02:39
vbgunzbob2: the command with the IPs?02:39
vbgunzok, then I am going for it now02:39
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timmowok do you know what partition it is? /dev/hdaX?02:39
vbgunzneed to bt02:39
bob2Bicchi: "sudo rm /etc/rc3.d/S*gdm" in your system, then add 3 to the end of the kernel boot command line02:39
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ZBlach|AwayI can see my network with iwlist, I've setup everything correctly with iwconfig, now why can't I connect to my network?02:40
bob2esac_: that drops you into a rot shell without asking for a password02:40
bob2ZBlach|Away: mac locking? wep? wpa?02:40
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vbgunzbob2, one thing what is the equivalent to ipconfig /all on Ubuntu?02:40
ZBlach|Awaywep02:40
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ZBlach|Awaybob2, wep keys match, ndiswrappered correctly02:41
n00bsterwould a picture help?02:41
timmown00bster: do you know which partition is the windows one?02:41
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n00bsteryes i do02:41
bob2vbgunz: what does that do?02:41
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n00bsterhda1 &hda502:42
bob2ZBlach|Away: does disabling wep help?02:42
mnsskesac_,  i will try editing that file. but what exactly is this problem ?02:42
pluffsyhello02:42
ZBlach|Awaybob2, nope. doesn't seem to do anything02:42
timmown00bster: okay you need to open a terminal02:42
n00bsterwith you..02:42
yawgmoth7bob2: It says it cant find the package02:42
vbgunzipconfig /all will list all my IP's, public private, submask etc02:42
mnsskesac_, and any help on what options to be given ? like man/ web or something?02:42
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timmown00bster: and do sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /media/windows02:42
timmowsay02:42
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timmow where /media/windows is a directory you want to mount under02:43
rob_pvbgunz:  ifconfig will show you that02:43
pluffsyI make my living as a php developer and web designer. I'm a mac user and has before used bbedit but I'm now moving away from commercial software. I've tried gedit and kate and they are okey I guess but not very fancy. What do you think I should learn? Should I try something like emacs and vi? They seem to have a very steep learning curve.02:43
n00bsterwoops, i can't find terminal on the menu02:43
vbgunzrob_p: ifconfig is the ipconfig equiv?02:43
bob2vbgunz: ip a; ip r02:43
rob_pvbgunz:  pretty much, yeah.02:43
timmowits under apps -> Accessories in Breezy02:43
misfit_toypluffsy, vi has no curve at all, you'll be at it in a day02:43
n00bsterIt's on system tools?02:43
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vbgunzya, you are the man ;)02:44
vbgunzthanks ya!02:44
vbgunzlooking into it02:44
timmowsystem tools in hoary02:44
bob2pluffsy: they are steep, but it's what most unix programmers end up using02:44
bob2yawgmoth7: oh well02:44
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yawgmoth7:\02:44
yawgmoth7Ok02:44
pluffsymisfit_toy: which one do you think I should start with? I know it's like a mac/windows war between them. but like bascically what's the pros and cons of vi and emacs? are one easier to use and one has more features?02:44
bob2yawgmoth7: I take it you're using breezy, but you haven't updated lately?02:44
timmowemacs and vi are extremely powerful, and once you have learnt them you will love it02:45
pluffsybob2: right... hmm.02:45
ZBlach|Awaybob2, tried it with no wep. no dice02:45
marzIs this the ubuntu help channel?02:45
bob2marz: indeed02:45
ZBlach|Awaymarz, this is the unofficial help channel02:45
timmowits best to do both the tutorials and see which one you prefer.  For me it was emacs....02:45
pluffsyare there some very graphical flashy happy tutorial I should check out on emacs/vi?02:45
yawgmoth7Yeah, im using breezy, and i just ran sudo apt-get update, then i downloaded the updates that came up after that, and there are no new updates uner upgrade or dist-upgrade02:45
misfit_toypluffsy, emacs is the grandaddy of all editors, it's filled with stuff, vi is lighter and newer, so it depends on what you want...do you need tons of links to external stuff or just want a fast as hell editor?02:45
vbgunzhaha!02:45
yawgmoth7So my system is really up-to-date02:45
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bob2pluffsy: no02:45
pluffsylike not he big ass emacs/vi references I guess there are somewhere.02:45
n00bster?02:45
timmowpluffsy: vimtutor in a terminal will give you a vim tutorial02:45
vbgunzrob_p: thank you!02:45
marzoh ok, thanks. Never used IRC before. I seem to be having a problem with my graphics card and ubuntu02:46
vbgunzbob2: thank you!02:46
bob2yawgmoth7: time to reboot into the new kernel02:46
FhaeTonthis is the busiest form on the planet02:46
dawynnAnyone know anything about getting sound working?02:46
rob_pvbgunz:  You're welcome... what did I do?02:46
timmowpluffsy: and emacs will tell you how to start a tutorial if you start it02:46
ZBlach|Awaydawynn: alsamixer02:46
vbgunzI can now see windows shares on the network from Ubuntu...02:46
n00bstercan't find terminal on the system tools menu, is there another way?02:46
bob2pluffsy: c-h t in emacs starts the tutorial02:46
yawgmoth7Ok, thanks bob2, you helped me last time also :) so yeah brb02:46
bob2n00bster: accessories02:46
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FhaeTonconverstaion runs 24hrs in here02:46
rob_pvbgunz:  Cool!02:46
n00bsteroh, got it :)02:46
vbgunzI think I will see about it a little more and then tomorrow try to learn how to work back with it... am dead beat... worked so hard but promised to learn somethings about Ubuntu today02:46
marzIs there a way to reconfigure my graphics card in ubuntu, because it's not recognizing my GeForce Ti4200.02:46
FhaeTonhey bob202:47
dawynnSound works a bit, but not completely.  Works great in certain games (Neverwinter Nights, Deng [doom] ) -- but KsCD -- no sound at all.02:47
pluffsybob2: err I'm not even sure what that means. I should press ctrl then h and t while ctrl still down?02:47
vbgunzthis stuff is important to helping me migrate over... i am always using the network shares02:47
vbgunzthanks!02:47
timmowpluffsy: ctrl-h then let go.  Then t02:47
ZBlach|Awaywhy can't I connect to my new router?02:47
dawynnAudacity doesn't work either.02:47
pluffsytimmow: alright. thanks.02:47
ZBlach|Awaydawynn: use alsamixer02:47
n00bsteri get error "mount point do not exist".02:47
ZBlach|Awaydawynn: use alsamixer02:47
vbgunzrob_p: tomorrow I will focus on that link you gave me... if it works I'll send you a home made apple pie from entenmans02:47
crimsundawynn, you need to configure kscd to use digital audio extraction instead of analog.02:48
vbgunz:P02:48
timmowpluffsy: it explains it better...02:48
rob_pvbgunz:  Alright dude... take care and good luck!02:48
Ninjewwoot, freenx works and is amazing02:48
bob2pluffsy: ctrl-h, then t02:48
vbgunzi'll be around, just want to see what I can do now02:48
jroessudo ifup wlan0 says "Ignoring unknown device wlan0=wlan0" -- anyone know why it would do this when iwconfig wlan0 shows it?02:48
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ZBlach|Awayany tips on connecting to my wireless router?02:48
x86jimmyhey, question about ubuntu; if you install in "server" mode, what are you getting/what arn't you getting?02:48
timmowjroes: kind of02:48
bob2jroes: that means you didn't setup /etc/network/interfaces02:48
linner|STARBUCKSok ya'll I'm going to pack up and get back home02:49
linner|STARBUCKSI'll see ya'll afterwhile02:49
bob2ZBlach|Away: sounds like ndiswraper being crap02:49
IorGiex86jimmy: no gnome to start02:49
pluffsywell good night and bye. I'll look at emacs.02:49
timmowgood luck02:49
x86jimmyIorGie: are you getting X11 at all?02:49
pluffsyerr and vi02:49
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jroesZBlach|Away: I'm following ttp://www.siliconvalleyccie.com/linux-hn/wmp11-linux.htm if it helps02:49
IorGienope..02:49
x86jimmygod02:49
x86jimmygood*02:49
x86jimmyk thanks02:49
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jroesof course, kwifimanager shows me connected to it, and iwconfig wlan0 shows me connected02:50
jroesbut I can't resolve IP addresses, and ifconfig won't display it without the -a switch, which tells me it's down02:50
daakuanyone know of anything like fink (ie apt-get pleasure!) for freebsd? its so painful to compile mozilla by hand02:50
timmowjroes: its not the right way apparantly, but i always found ifconfig wlan0 up && sudo dhclient wlan0 does the trick02:50
crimsunwouldn't it be in bsd's ports?02:50
jroesdaaku: this is #ubuntu, but, ports  cd /usr/ports02:50
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n00bster(sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /media/windows) i use FAT3202:51
dawynncrimsun, thank you -- KsCD finally works!02:51
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brownie17i need help. i pluddeg in aportable floppy disk drive through my serials port and it isn't showing up. how do i mount it and all that?02:51
daakucrimsun: dont have ports, need something that sort of stays out of the core system (again, painful)02:51
n00bsterand i use FAT32 in the syntax, but same error...02:52
dawynncrimsun, What was up with that?  How come the digital works, but not the other on KsCD?02:52
timmown00bster: replace ntfs with vfat (I think)02:52
jroestimmow: hrmph, that almost worked except dhclient isn't in knoppix :X02:52
ZBlach|Awayok, followed that link, checked my compatibilities, and its still not working02:52
jroestimmow: the iface did come up though!02:52
brownie17MadpilotPPC, can  you help me? ^^^02:52
n00bsteri'll tray.02:52
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Trashcanhi :)02:53
x86jimmyanother question about server mode, are you installing a barebone system or are you actually getting "server" tools (apache, mysql, etc.)02:53
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Trashcananyone mind if i ask a driver question? you probably get these a lot ;)02:53
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Trashcanhas to do with compiling the ATI drivers from a tut02:54
ZBlach|Awayit says that its connected, but I can't access the internet or the router02:54
HrdwrBoBdon't ask to ask02:54
HrdwrBoBask02:54
timmowjroes: is there a dhcpd command?02:54
Trashcanright on02:54
crimsundawynn, volume it probably muted and/or there's no cable connecting the drive to the sound chipset02:54
crimsunvolume is^02:54
Trashcan(excuse the short paste)02:54
TrashcanFATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.ko): No such device02:54
quacki got kucky,everthing works just fine02:54
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Trashcanhappens when compiling ATI drivers, following http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=34891102:54
testnewbie here.  I need to find out how to get dev packages.  I tried to install a video driver and am missing gcc package02:55
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n00bsterno go! :(02:55
ZBlach|Awayi just want to get my wireless working :'(02:55
Trashcan:p02:55
Trashcan(just a guess, im no guru) open terminal: sudo apt-get install gcc02:55
Trashcan?02:55
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butcherbirdtest: sudo apt-get install build-essential?02:55
Trashcanahh gg02:56
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jroestimmow: nope :(02:56
n00bsteriisn't it done to be ubuntu instillation?02:56
jroestimmow: nor dhcpcd02:56
ZBlach|Awaythis is killing me. every other computer set up right a way, but this one refuses to work correctly02:56
bob2x86jimmy: you install whatever daemons you want, yourself02:56
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ZBlach|Awayit says its connected, it sees the network, but it won't let me do anything else02:57
timmowjroes: there is some weird syntax in ifconfig for configuring the Ip address etc manually02:57
x86jimmybob2: so, you get to manually select packages?02:57
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jroestimmow: yeah I was reading the man pages, it was tough to figure out though :)02:57
timmowjroes: I don't know it off hand but the man page might help....02:57
Trashcanifconfig eth1 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx?02:57
Trashcanfollowed by NETMASK xxx...02:58
Trashcanor something02:58
jroeshaha02:58
jroestrashcan is right :)02:58
Trashcanwoot02:58
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Trashcanand ive been using debian/linux for.... 6 hours02:58
jroeshahaha02:58
n00bster??02:58
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jroesare you kidding?02:58
jroesnice job :)02:58
testthanks all.  I will try both suggestions out and if I dont get anywhere I will be back:-)02:58
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timmowwell I am impressed by that!02:59
Ninjewits ifconfig <interface> inet <ip address> netmask <netmask> broadcast <broadcast>02:59
yawgmoth7Had some trouble booting up, but i managed to fix it,  ill try installing the sound drivers now02:59
Ninjewwithout the braces, of course02:59
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Alzabarhow come alsa dont load with hoary but does in breezy03:00
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timmowI think it is time for bed.  Good night03:00
ZBlach|AwayAlzabar, coz they fixed it in breezy03:00
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crimsunAlzabar, it doesn't?03:00
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Trashcani had some issues getting g++ set up properly on breezy, so i switched to hoary :'(03:00
Alzabaryeah I tired both on another machine03:01
esac_i setup system->preferences->network proxy. however when i try to use add applications, it isn't using the proxy to download files. any ideas ?03:01
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n00bster__ok, i can see that you need sleeping, ill tray tomorrow. )__03:01
crimsunAlzabar, it works fine on my Hoary boxes.03:01
Alzabaralsa not even installed in hoary03:01
n00bstergoodbye03:01
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crimsunAlzabar, you're kidding me?03:01
Alzabarbut it was on breezy03:01
Trashcanso anyone here have any experience with the ATI drivers? :D03:01
AlzabarIm not03:01
esac_Trashcan: i am using them just fine, thank you03:01
Trashcan(on hoary)03:01
jroesnow to figure out how to set a gateway03:01
ZBlach|Awaydarnit!< i can see the network. I can access the network on other computers. Why can't I access it through breezy!03:01
jroesI bet it's ifconfig gateway :)03:01
Trashcanwhat card do you have esac?03:01
Alzabarati worked great for me on hoary byut not breezy03:02
esac_Trashcan: ati mobility radeon 970003:02
Trashcanah03:02
Trashcan<--- very old laptop... ati rage mobility03:02
ZBlach|Awayesac_, Trashcan, same card. please elaborate03:02
Alzabarhoary no sound but video breezy no video good sound03:02
dawynncrimsun, <blush> yep -- you're right about not having that CD drive hooked up to the sound card.  That hint helped me at least fix up one of the CD drives correctly.  Thanks much!03:02
AlzabarI can never get both to work03:03
crimsunAlzabar, it's part of ubuntu-minimal03:03
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Trashcan*heh heh*03:03
dawynnexit03:03
marzdoes anyone know how to configure a graphics card driver?03:03
ZBlach|Awayso.... no one here has ever had problems with wireless networking?03:03
Alzabaranyway I am getting hoary since breezy wont see my network here03:03
Trashcani tried installing the driver package from synaptic, but fglrxinfo gave the normal erranous message (mesa3d)03:03
yawgmoth7bob2: I figured out how i can fix my problem, i just need to find /2.6.12-9-amd64-generic/build, because that is the thing that it cant find03:04
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virwhat is breezy?03:04
ZBlach|Away!breezy03:04
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade03:04
funkyHatvir, the next version of ubuntu03:04
esac_Trashcan: did you try installing linux-restricted-modules ?03:04
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Trashcanso i followed another tutorial that went through completely removing the drivers and compiling the source from ati03:04
esac_vir: breezy is the latest version of ubuntu (and it is still in development)03:04
Trashcanbut then it errored03:04
Trashcanhmm, elaborate esac?03:04
esac_Trashcan: what error did you get03:04
TrashcanFATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.ko): No such device03:05
bob2yawgmoth7: ?03:05
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esac_Trashcan: are you running a custom kernel ?03:05
ZBlach|AwayHas no one had problems with their wireless cards??03:05
bob2yawgmoth7: you need to "sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)"03:05
Trashcannegatron03:05
bob2ZBlach|Away: dude, of course people have03:05
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bob2ZBlach|Away: your problem is probably related to ndiswrapper, tho, which no one here can fix03:05
Trashcanaside from installed packages, this is a clean ubuntu install03:05
esac_Trashcan: does /dev/agpgart exist ?03:05
ZBlach|Awaybob2, seems like no one has. every solution available is the same, and they're not working for me03:06
lsuactiafnerwill breezy be out within 2 weeks?03:06
Alzabarsometime in oct03:06
testyI'm back.  No luck on gcc install.  any other ideas?03:06
Trashcanyeah03:06
bob2Trashcan: that's the driver saying "I don't think I know how to work any of this hardware"03:06
Trashcanahh03:06
bob2testy: install build-essential03:06
lsuactiafner!tell lsuactiafner about breezy03:06
Trashcanok03:06
bob2marz: be more specific03:06
Trashcanthanks bob203:06
ZBlach|Awaybob2, I was running hoary for almost a month with no ndiswrapper problem03:06
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Trashcanthat clears things up pretty well..03:06
bob2ZBlach|Away: does booting the hoary kernel "fix" it?03:06
yawgmoth7If ound it bob2, thanks once again >:)03:06
viri have no cd of breezy..where i can get the update?03:06
Trashcanlol03:07
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ZBlach|Awaynot sure. after my compy died with the breezy upgrade, i've just been using the Breezy 9/9 install03:07
bob2vir: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradENotes03:07
Trashcanwww.ubuntu.com ?03:07
bob2ZBlach|Away: you filed bugs about that, right?03:07
marzbob2: My current graphics card is not recognized properly (it claims it's PCI, and it doesn't know its capabilities, according to Device Manager). How can I change/update drivers?03:07
yawgmoth7Im using Breezy03:07
bob2marz: ignore device manager03:07
ZBlach|Awaybob2, can't file bugs -- nothing was working03:07
bob2marz: what card is it?03:07
butcherbirdvir: if everything is working for you right now I would wait about a month to upgrade03:07
marzbob2: GeForceTi 420003:07
virah!! ok03:08
AlzabarI got no AGP slot03:08
bob2ZBlach|Away: so use the livecd or whatever03:08
ZBlach|Awaydun have.03:08
bob2marz: so what is the problem?03:08
bob2ZBlach|Away: your system apparently works now, report them03:08
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ZBlach|Awaythis is a diffrerent comp03:08
bob2ZBlach|Away: if you don't report it, it won't be fixed and you won't be able to use breezy at all03:08
marzbob2: The graphics card is not recognized, so I am unable to go past 800x600 resolution without getting a messed up screen. In addition, the screen is off-centre. Anyway to fix this?03:08
Alzabarget a new video card03:09
ZBlach|Awaybob2, how can I report the error. i only have vague details03:09
bob2marz: if X runs at all, it's plenty recognised03:09
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bob2ZBlach|Away: bugzilla.ubuntu.com03:09
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bob2ZBlach|Away: vague bug reports are unlikely to be of any use, tho03:09
bob2marz: did you read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto?03:09
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marzbob2: I'll check it out03:10
cafuego_marz: Tip: AGP = PCI03:10
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HrdwrBoB=~03:10
HrdwrBoBnot =03:10
virhow to remove konqueror03:10
Trashcanlol03:10
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Trashcanwhy hasn't anyone said rtfm yet.... it's just dying to be said03:10
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cafuego_AGP |= PCI03:11
HrdwrBoBTrashcan: because that's not how we work here03:11
Trashcancool03:11
cafuego_Trashcan: rtfm03:11
Trashcanwell nice to see its a supportive community03:11
Trashcan:)03:11
funkyHatXD03:11
HrdwrBoBfunkyHat: why are you saying XD03:11
cafuego_You order, we deliver.03:11
HrdwrBoBexx dee, makes no sense03:11
virit is possible to update ubuntu in edubuntu?03:11
cafuego_HrdwrBoB: it's probably some smiley in his client03:11
crimsunit's like a laughing face, I think.03:11
Trashcanlook at it sideways03:11
funkyHatXD = :D with screwed up eyes03:12
Trashcanyeah03:12
HrdwrBoBcafuego_: I know it's supposed to be a face03:12
funkyHat:P03:12
ZBlach|Awayooh! i remember now! different drivers are required. it was an ndiswrapper problem. sorry for wasting your time03:12
HrdwrBoBI just happen to think it makes you look like a tard03:12
virit is possible to update ubuntu in edubuntu?03:12
HrdwrBoB.. anyway moving on03:12
crimsunvir, sure03:12
funkyHatno, it's not a smiley in my client :P. i just think it looks cool :P03:12
virhow?03:12
Trashcannice to see where you stand on the arrogance scale, HrdwrBoB03:12
cafuego_HrdwrBoB: yes, it's also know as the "windowlicker"03:12
vircrimsun:how?03:12
crimsunvir, the same way you update ubuntu03:12
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viri dnt have the cd..03:12
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virwhat is the command for update?03:13
crimsunvir, but you have a live Internet connection, correct?03:13
funkyHati think saying the word tard makes you look like a tard03:13
viryes03:13
esac_any idea why my windows get a lot of ripping and tearing and leaving behind copies of itself while i move the window around ?03:13
cafuego_bob2: Where do I sign? :-)03:13
bob2hahaha03:13
crimsunvir, then just use Synaptic/aptitude/apt-get03:13
viri have..dats why m on x-chat03:13
Trashcanesac: drivers probably03:13
cafuego_esac_: Paper screen?03:13
Trashcanmy windows tear, but don't leave nasties behind03:13
Trashcanwhen i resize03:13
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virand then?03:14
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cafuego_!test03:14
Nargso installing the breezy PR that I downloaded a few months ago03:14
Nargso I'm*03:14
cafuego_friggin' great03:14
Nargand it keeps erroring at 6%03:14
Nargso I go wtf, and then abort and eject cd03:14
vircrimsun: how about using terminal? like what ive used in updating kubuntu03:15
Nargand lo and behold, the cold is covered with mold :/03:15
Nargcd*03:15
Trashcanhaha..03:15
Nargwow, I'm tired :)03:15
Trashcana moldy cd, that's a new one :\03:15
crimsunvir, sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade03:15
NargI never saw that one coming.03:15
Nargyea...03:15
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Trashcani'm diggin apt-get..03:15
yawgmoth7stdio.h is a C module right?03:15
NargBOFH excuse 10056: Moldy CD.03:15
Trashcanfirst distro i used was rh03:16
cafuego_C header file, from libc6-dev03:16
Trashcanit was kinda..... bah03:16
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HrdwrBoBmouldy03:16
bob2yawgmoth7: no, it's a header file from libc6-dev03:16
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yawgmoth7Oh, ok03:16
Trashcanbob2 is my hero..03:16
vircrimsun: its all been done..what i will do next?03:16
crimsunit's updated then.03:16
Trashcanfirst time i installed breezy i went on with the #include <iostream>03:16
Trashcanand it gave some error03:16
Trashcanso i was freaking out03:16
Trashcantried #include <stdio.h>03:17
Trashcanand it errored again03:17
virwhere i can see edubuntu?03:17
Trashcan...lo and behold, the error had to do with the nonexistant g++03:17
vircrimsun: its all been done..what i will do next?03:17
virwhere i can see edubuntu?03:17
crimsunvir, um what do you want to see?03:17
virthe edubuntu03:17
marzUnder my monitor Section-BeginSection, I have a HorizSync of 28-51 and a VertRefresh of 43-60, is this the problem or is it normal?03:18
crimsunvir, I think you misunderstand what Edubuntu is.03:19
virwhat is edubuntu?03:19
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crimsunvir, http://www.edubuntu.org/03:19
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crimsunvir, if you're expecting drastic interface changes, you're probably looking in the wrong place03:20
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vircan i say sorry?03:20
fr33mindQuestion: When I go in console, I missed 3 or 4 lines at the bottom.03:20
crimsunnone necessary03:20
Trashcanscroll down? :s03:21
fr33mindI can't03:21
fr33mindI have to press enter to scroll up...03:22
Trashcanoh boy03:22
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Trashcanno scroll wheel?03:22
fr33mindin CONSOLE03:22
Trashcanah03:22
Trashcanthought you said terminal :)03:22
Trashcansorry03:22
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Ninjewfr33mind: Shift pageup and pagedown03:22
fr33mindCTRL-ALT-F103:23
yawgmoth7"make: gcc-3.4: Command not found03:23
yawgmoth7" Do you think that that means that "make" is trying to use the command "gcc-3.5"?(Since its gcc)03:23
crimsunor use screen, which has history.03:23
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fr33mindno you don't understand... wait..03:23
bob2yawgmoth7: that means it's trying to run gcc-3.403:23
bob2yawgmoth7: install the gcc-3.4 package03:23
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yawgmoth7Ok03:23
fr33mindWith CTRL-ALT-F1, I am in console.  Now... I can see line 1 to 20 for example but, line 21 to 24 no.   (and it's not a monitor adjustment!)03:24
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Trashcanso you cant see what you are typing?03:24
Ninjewoh it cuts off the bottom?03:24
yawgmoth7i love python so much, ive been using it for ayear or so now03:24
fr33mindThat's it.03:24
yawgmoth7a year*03:24
WinZhi there! anybody knows if apache2 can run under xinetd?03:25
Trashcani wrote a pisspoor irc client in python a while back... under win3203:25
Trashcanit was interesting03:25
Trashcannifty little language03:25
bob2WinZ: that would be kinda silly, and no, afaik03:25
yawgmoth7Awesome, ive written a python IRC bot before................03:25
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cafuego_Ubotu is behind a failed switch and will be back shortly.03:26
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DJCobolhello?03:26
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funkyHathi DJCobol03:27
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DJCobolis there anyone out there that wouldn't mind helping me out with iptables?03:27
TrashcanI like this chan.. nice people :)03:27
WinZbob2, sorry, but what is "kinda silly"? :)03:27
bob2DJCobol: best to just ask your question03:27
bob2WinZ: trying to run apache out of xinetd03:27
bob2WinZ: why do you want to try?03:27
testnewbie back again.  I now need help on kernel install03:27
bob2test: you already have a kernel istalled03:28
Trashcanlol03:28
DJCoboltrying to configure iptables to allow passive and active FTP traffic. so far I can log in, but as soon as I issue a command and it goes to passive, the connection drops03:28
testit's asking for missing headers when i try to install the video driver03:28
bob2DJCobol: sure you want a firewall at all?03:28
fr33mindIf I boot in recovry mode, the console screen is ok.03:28
attyhi. i need help. i did try to install azureus but fail. and inform E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?03:28
DJCobolyes03:28
bob2test: what driver are you trying to install?03:28
testso what nvidia03:28
mgcrosshi all...got a big problem...03:29
bob2atty: that's of no use to use, we need the whole error in #flood or pastebin03:29
WinZbob2, sorry for my english please :) I'm from Ukraine. I think that this kind of running apache is better because of using a few memory03:29
attyi did update & upgrade but still face same problem03:29
bob2test: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto03:29
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bob2WinZ: that's unlikely to be the case03:29
Alzabarbrb people03:29
Ninjewfr33mind: Do you have some type of framebuffer setup?03:29
contehello !! ^^03:29
mgcrossinstalled new nvidia driver....now open office segfaults...really makes the box usless03:29
fr33mindNinjew: maybe... don't know03:29
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mgcrossany ideas how I can track down the problem?03:30
bob2mgcross: get rid of it and use the ubuntu version03:30
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mgcrosshmmm....03:30
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cafuego_WinZ: No, run apache stand-alone with 1 server process and maybe 1 waiting server process.03:30
Ninjewfr33mind: Does ubuntu give you the splash screen when you turn on?03:30
testthanks bob203:30
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mgcrossbob2: is that going to fix the problem?03:30
cafuego_WinZ: And unlaod any apache modules you don't need. (See /etc/apache/modules.conf)03:30
yawgmoth7I installed the gcc-3.4 package, but it still reads the gcc-4.0 package, i was just going to remove the 4.0 package then reinstall it, but it said that it would have to unintsall a crap-load of other programs with it(I was using Synaptic, might be differnet with apt-get), and when i type "gcc --version" it says gcc 4.0.2, so i know that it is still using the 4.0.2 package03:30
fr33mindNinjew: yes and it's cool ;)03:30
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bob2mgcross: who knows, but it's a start to debug it03:30
WinZcafuego_, bob2, thanks a lot! i have a small home server03:30
mgcrossbob2: I'm just making a guess that that was what caused this mess..03:31
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bob2yawgmoth7: wtf03:31
Ninjewfr33mind: Can you tell if that is cut off as well? Or does it look normal03:31
WinZbob2, mm.. how about vsftpd under xinetd? do you think it's too unlikely?03:31
mgcrossbob2: true, true03:31
fr33mindNinjew: yes it is.03:31
bob2yawgmoth7: gcc 4.0 is the default on ubuntu. do not change that.03:31
bob2yawgmoth7: if something wants gcc 3.4, it should be running gcc-3.403:31
fr33mindNinjew: some text at the bottom is cut off.03:31
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bob2yawgmoth7: what on earth are yo ucompiling?03:31
cafuego_bob2: Not for the kernel.03:31
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mgcrossbob2: how the heck do I rid myself of it?03:31
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bob2mgcross: yay for installing things from outside ubuntu03:31
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bob2mgcross: perhaps #nvidia knows03:31
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mgcrossbob2: yah, I know, I know....the Ubuntu driver is dead old tho...lol03:32
cafuego_mgcross; strace the installer, see what files it writes, remove them by hand.03:32
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bob2mgcross: not really03:32
yawgmoth7Im just tryin to compile the sound card drivers......ive done it before no problem03:32
foampiec1hello03:32
Ninjewfr33mind: hmm03:32
bob2yawgmoth7: you need to tell it to use gcc-3.403:32
mgcrosshmm03:32
yawgmoth7Somewhere in a config file, right?03:32
mgcrossstrace? cmd line tool? Not familiar with it...03:33
foampiec1might you be able to tell me how to remove a package and its dependencies without breaking other dependencies? ie remove unessessary packages03:33
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cafuego_foampiec1: Run 'deborphan' to find out what isn't needed.03:33
foampiec1cafuego_: ok thanks03:33
Ninjewfr33mind: Do you know how to edit the kernel boot parameters?03:33
thoreauputicfoampiec1: you'll need to install it03:33
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fr33mindNinjew: if you explain... maybe ;)03:34
foampiec1thanks03:34
reterhow can i create a root password?03:34
mgcrosscafuego_: strace?03:34
bob2yawgmoth7: no, it may involve makefile hacking03:34
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yawgmoth7>:\03:34
Ninjewfr33mind: OK try this: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst03:34
yawgmoth7Ok03:34
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cafuego_reter: via 'passwd' but it's probably better to just sue 'sudo'.03:34
thoreauputicreter: sudo passwd root (if you really must)03:34
Ninjewfr33mind: Is this a x86 or an amd64 install?03:35
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thoreauputicreter: it's quite unnecessary though03:35
fr33mindx8603:35
Trashcanso given the way ubuntu set up the password dealy03:35
reterthe printer app ask for it03:35
Trashcanif someone gets your normal user password03:35
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Trashcanthey can login as root03:35
Trashcanaye?03:35
Trashcansudo -s03:35
foampiec1mplayer doesnt depend on gstreamer stuff?03:35
reterthoreauputic, would you happen to know how to add a printer when its not on database?03:35
Trashcan(at least get a root terminal)03:35
fr33mindNinjew: I am in the file.03:36
Ninjewfr33mind: ok find the section at the bottom that says title  Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.12-something-i38603:36
fr33mind(I knew this file ;)03:36
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remyforbes777anyone have any luck installing amd 6403:36
Ninjewfr33mind: the one thats not the recovery mode03:36
thoreauputicreter: my last attempt to add a non-supported printer was a nightmare, so no, sorry03:36
yawgmoth7If you mean installing Ubuntu on AMD64.....then yes03:36
Ninjewfr33mind: and change the word 'splash' in kernel /boot/vmlinuz-blahblah root=blah ro quiet to 'nosplash'03:36
remyforbes777yeas03:36
remyforbes777yes03:36
fr33mindNinjew: by the way.. can I delete old kernel I don't need anymore ?03:36
Ninjewfr33mind: If you never boot to it, deleting that will remove its entry in your bootloader03:37
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yawgmoth7Yeah, ive installed it, and i have a AMD 6403:37
Ninjewfr33mind: It won't actually delete the kernel image03:37
gm78Hi all. I currently have Ubuntu installed on my mom's Sony Vaio (P4 2.8 GHz, 512 MB RAM, Intel Graphics Card) and lately, when she tries to log out, Gnome just sits there still running for a long time. So she hits CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE and then it goes to a terminal instead of restarting X. Anyone seen this happen before or know a way to fix it?03:37
remyforbes777Athlon or Turion03:37
fr33mindNinjew: Just delete line refer to what I don't want?03:37
thoreauputicreter: are you sure it isn't supported? Sometimes trying another driver works03:37
yawgmoth7Athlon03:37
oxezhow can I make an app to use gcc-3 instead of gcc-4?03:37
Ninjewfr33mind: The entire section, starting at "title" and ending at "boot"03:37
oxez(to compile)03:37
remyforbes777cant get x to run on my AMD turion03:37
remyforbes777freezes at login03:37
reterthoreauputic, is there a way to add the database?03:37
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Ninjewfr33mind: again, that won't actually delete the kernel image though03:37
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robotgeekoxez: export cc=/usr/bin/gcc-3.403:37
Ninjewfr33mind: It'll just remove it from the boot list03:37
thoreauputicreter: database?03:37
robotgeekoxez: then to be sure, go cc -v03:38
fr33mindNinjew: What I though03:38
oxezrobotgeek: ok, and once I'm done I reset it to /usr/bin/gcc-4 ?03:38
Ninjewfr33mind: anyway, try changing the 'splash' to 'nosplash', and rebooting. That will disable the cool looking bootsplah for now, but it should also disable the framebuffer that it requires to do that03:38
testNewbie back in again:  Error, unable to find kernel source tree for currently running kernel....03:38
robotgeekoxez: it's will go away when you close the term03:38
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fr33mindNinjew: ok now... I will loose the splash :(  no way to keep splash and have a correct console?03:38
testit's questioning source files missing03:38
Ninjewfr33mind: well, we are just testing to see if thats the problem03:39
fr33mindNinjew: ok.03:39
Ninjewfr33mind: if it is, you will probably have to add some special video mode info to that kernel line03:39
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reterthoreauputic, well you know that the printer options suppose to have hundreds of printer models listed. mine has only a handful. how can one add the others?03:39
oxezrobotgeek: cc -v still shows gcc-4.003:39
sproingieexport CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.403:39
fr33mindNinjew: Ok I try and reboot... give me 2-3 minutes.03:39
sproingiecase counts03:39
Ninjewfr33mind: alright03:39
oxezoh, thanks sproingie03:39
thoreauputicreter: that's odd - is this a standard install of Ubuntu?03:39
robotgeeksproingie: thanks03:40
oxezsproingie: it still shows 4.0 :O03:40
rj_I have a question - I have a dual boot setup, with windows xp and ubuntu hoary, I had to re-install windows and windows overwrote my MBR and now I can't boot into grub and use ubuntu, whats the easiest way to re-install the grub bootloader?03:40
thoreauputicreter: apt-cache search cups | less03:40
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sproingieoxez: it won't affect the cc command.  it will affect autoconf and well-written makefiles03:40
oxezsproingie: alright, thanks again03:40
robotgeeksproingie: shud it be export $CC ?03:41
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cafuego_No.03:41
sproingieoxez: i don't recommend overriding the default cc globally.  the system makes some assumptions about what gcc it's compiled with, changing those is unwise03:41
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fr33mindI'll be back.03:41
oxezsproingie: bmp-wma compiled with gcc-3, I had some errors with gcc-403:41
satafterhanyone have issues with limewire freezeing03:41
sproingieoxez: just get used to invoking the specific version you want when you need that version.  anything with a proper makefile will use the value of CC03:41
testthis is a brand new install and i think srcs must be missing.  any ideas on how to correct?03:41
rj_anyone know how to reinstall the grub mbr?03:42
cafuego_test: install them?03:42
attyanybody here use qcad?03:42
sproingieoxez: if you're really determined, you can always change the gcc symbolic link to point to whatever version you want, or put your own symlink in ~/bin03:43
jrattner1When trying to start the game "America's Army" i get the following error: Couldn't set video mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual03:43
jrattner1any ideas?03:43
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yawgmoth7sproingie: i dont think that export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.403:43
yawgmoth7 works..............because i just tried that, i was needing to do the same thing as oxez..use gcc-3.03:43
testI thought I did but driver installation gives that kernel source tree error message and the install fails03:43
yawgmoth7gcc-3.4*03:43
joetheoddIn my opinion, most C programs should be indented six feet downward and covered with dirt.03:43
sproingieoxez: it's an unhealthy habit ... you can get screwed in subtle ways by doing that03:43
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oxezsproingie: okay03:44
cafuegotest: What driver?03:44
testvideo driver03:44
mgcrossanyone know how I can remove nvidia drivers installed with the nvidia installer?03:44
testnvidia board03:44
cafuegoYou shouldn't be compiling that. It's packaged.03:44
cafuegotest: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.x03:44
oxezsproingie: I sent a bug report to the other of the plugin, hope this will get fixed :O03:44
cafuegoAnd even IF you're compiling it, you shouldn't be using the fsource from the nvidia site.03:45
testI'm not compliling.  just going through the install on a new distro03:45
cafuegotest: then the kernel source isn't required.03:45
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fr33mindNinjew: that's work.03:46
testwell it's not working03:46
cafuegotest; Do not run the file you downloaded from nvidia.03:46
cafuegotest: What kernel you running? (paste the output from uname -r)03:46
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testjust a sec03:47
test2.6.12-8-amd64-generic03:47
crimsunyou'll want 2.6.12-903:47
cafuegosudo apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-8-amd64-generic03:48
crimsunfixes a few amd64-related issues.03:48
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testawesome03:48
testi'll try that now03:48
testthanks!03:48
cafuegoAnd linux-image-2.6.12-9-amd64-k8 as well actually03:48
testok03:48
cafuegotest: Not ethat 2.6.12-9- has a different version restricted modules too.03:48
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ripguthey guys i need urgent help03:48
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Ninjewfr33mind: It Worked?03:49
ripgutim in kde but my panels are gone all i have is my wallpaper03:49
fr33mindninjew: yep03:49
ripgutal i can do is right lick and bring up the terminal03:49
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Ninjewfr33mind: alright, what video card do you have? Also, what kind of monitor?03:49
ripguthow do i restore my pnaels03:49
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poningrudreamie03:50
ripgutchavo03:50
chavohello03:50
fr33mindNinjew: laptop... sis video lcd 1024x768  and external viewsonic lcd 1024x768 too03:50
ripgutdude i so need your help03:50
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chavowhat's up?03:50
Ninjewfr33mind: oh ok, i suspected it was a laptop -- do you have both internal and external monitors plugged in?03:50
ripguti need to restore my desktop panels in kde there missing....03:50
fr33mindNinjew: yes03:51
Ninjewfr33mind: out of curiosity, have you tried it without the external monitor plugged in?03:51
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fr33mindNinjew: no03:51
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Ninjewfr33mind: hm03:51
root__help, im on IRSSI, i cannot logon as root on gnome ; first install (and boot) of hoary, i can log in root only in terminal  and gnome says an error about my line 19 of /etc/sudoers03:51
ripgutwhat do i type in terminal to restore my desktop panels03:51
chavoripgut, you mean the taskbar?03:52
Ninjewfr33mind: well, try this:03:52
Ninjewfr33mind: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst again03:52
chavoripgut, kicker03:52
cafuegoroot__: Root is disabled on ubuntu. Fix your sudoers file and login as user.03:52
ripgutyes03:52
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ltfanybody want to help me do something crazy with wget?03:52
root__cafeugo, i know i cannot LOG on as root, but i cannot even sudo ,,hence the problem03:52
ripgutkicker?03:52
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Nargcafuego: from my looking at /etc/sudoers, you just add to admin group, not change the file. Am I on crack?03:53
robotgeekltf: man wget03:53
chavothat's the name of the program03:53
root__cafeugo, and i'm here to know HOW to fix my sudoers file03:53
cafuegoroot__: Boot into recovery mode.03:53
ltfrobotgeek, i sure did03:53
cafuegoNarg: indeed03:53
Ninjewfr33mind: go bck to the line that you edited to do nosplash03:53
ltfelse i wouldn't be in here03:53
robotgeekltf: then, what's the issue!03:53
root__what recovcery will change..?03:53
ripgutmy taksbars are missing? :(03:53
vbgunzbob2: I've successfully mapped all network shares and Ubuntu has access to all of them... I just ate and relaxed a bit and am back on... Can you help define to me how to share a folder with a Windows PC? I created a folder in my home directory and shared it to SMB *but* not sure how Windows can get access to it... Please help03:53
ltfi want to recure through many pages, looking for files matching a certain extension03:53
cafuegoroot__: It will give you a working shell with root permissions.03:53
ripguttaskbars*03:53
ltfi don't know the names of the pages, it just needs to match the ext.03:54
Ninjewfr33mind: and try adding: video=vesafb:ywrap,1024x768-16@60 to that03:54
cafuegoETA on ubotu: 30 minutes03:54
ripgutokay... noone wants to help03:54
Ninjewfr33mind: or actually, add video=vesafb:ywrap,mtrr,1024x768-16@6003:54
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fr33mindNinjew: Yes my lord.03:54
bob2vbgunz: I've only used samba itself for that, I don't know how gnome does it03:54
cafuegoripgut: You got help, just failed to do anything with it.03:54
cafuegoripgut: Check if kicker is running via 'ps'. if not, start it.03:55
Ninjewfr33mind: leave it at nosplash, however03:55
cafuegoIf it is, kill it, then start it.03:55
chavoripgut, run kicker from the konsole and see what happens03:55
ripguthow do i restore them?03:55
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Ninjewfr33mind: try rebooting with that in, see if that works at all /cuts things off03:55
ripgutcommand not found03:55
vbgunzbob2: ok, no biggie, I was planning on tackling this tomorrow but I'll dabble with it :D Thanks!03:55
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ripguti just type "kicker" right?03:56
Ninjewfr33mind: oo wait03:56
chavoyeah03:56
Ninjewfr33mind:  one more thing03:56
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Ninjewfr33mind: try also adding vga=791 to that line as well03:56
linner|HOMEwhat would ya'll suggest... that I wipe the partition with ubuntu and do a fresh install with breezy or just wait until the release date for the updates?03:56
ripgutim installing kicker right now, duh, i had to have it first....03:56
ripgutstupid me03:56
ripgutthere it goes!03:57
cafuegoripgut: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop03:57
ripgutthanks03:57
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Ninjewfr33mind: so you want to add 'vga=791 video=vesafb:ywrap,mtrr,1024x768-16@60' to that line03:57
Ninjewfr33mind: give that a shot03:57
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ripgutthanks guys!03:57
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felix_I need help ; i jsut installed hoary, and i have a login in sudo problem ; it have to do with my  etc/sudoers file, but i dont know how to edit it.  i am in recovery mode now03:59
felix_someone ?04:00
bimberifelix_: visudo04:00
fr33mindninjew: I keep nosplash?04:01
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satafterhis breezy all right to upgraade with now04:01
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felix_i know how to use pico or nano ; but i dont know WHAT actually to change in the file ; plus, you have to be root to edit it, and THATS my problem, i can only log in as root in terminal   outside of gnome04:02
felix_please..04:02
robotgeekfelix_: you must only use visudo to edit the file04:02
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bimberifelix_: use the arrow keys to move to the bottom of the file04:02
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felix_felix@renouveau:~$ visudo /etc/sudoers04:03
felix_usage: visudo [-c]  [-f sudoers]  [-q]  [-s]  [-V] 04:03
felix_thats all what it does04:03
bob2felix_: what on earth did you do to it?04:03
felix_'installed ubuntu'04:03
felix_its the first boot  ...04:03
bob2and sudo doesn't work?04:03
felix_nope04:03
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remyforbes777if I copy the xorg config file from knoppix to my ubuntu 64 will that possibly work04:04
felix_>>> sudoers file: syntax error, line 19 <<<04:04
felix_sudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers near line 1904:04
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bob2felix_: what's your username?04:04
cafuegoSo fix it.04:04
felix_felix04:04
cafuegoremyforbes777: Probably, yes.04:04
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robotgeek!tell felix_  about sudo04:04
remyforbes777ok04:04
bob2felix_: boot into recovery mode, then show us what line 19 is04:04
felix_I AM in recovery mode : /04:05
jhennCannot initialize device04:05
jhennYou do not have the proper permissions to write to /dev/floppy/0 or /dev/fd0, formatting will not be possible.04:05
jhennContact your system administrator about getting write permissions.04:05
remyforbes777because x will not work with my  ubuntu 64 but it does in knoppix04:05
cafuegofelix_: Then please paste line 19 here.04:05
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jhenndid you see my paste people?04:05
jhennfloppy formatter won't format this floppy04:06
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felix_cafeugo, you dont really read what i say here eh ? i cannot acess the file in gnome, it have to be in console04:06
cafuegojhenn: Prefix your command with 'sudo'.04:06
bob2felix_: what does that have to do with IRC?04:06
bob2felix_: anyway, open it in a text editor and look at line 1904:06
cafuegofelix_: if you're in recovery mode, you're NOT in gnome.04:06
felix_??04:06
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jhenncafuego: do you know to call gnome floppy formatter from cli?04:07
remyforbes777recorvery mode is the same as command prompt04:07
cafuegojhenn: sudo apt-get install mtools; mformat a:04:07
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cafuegojhenn: Or check which group owns /dev/fd0 and add yourself to that group.04:07
felix_well i choosed 'session de secours'      at the gnome log screen, translated, it looks a lot like a recovery mode..04:07
ksmurfhow are all tonight?04:07
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cafuegofelix_: No, recovery mode is in the LILO or GRUB menu.04:08
vbgunzksmurf: hello04:08
cafuegofelix_: That will boot into a CLI root shell04:08
jhennfelix_: is your first name jhef?04:08
felix_looks like i dont have this menu04:08
felix_arr04:08
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felix_??04:08
cafuegofelix_: Hold down a key when booting, then the menu (or list) will come.04:08
ksmurfvbgunz :>)04:08
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jhennfelix_: do you go to hcc?04:08
felix_anyway as for opening the file here i cant. just wont.04:09
jhenncafuego: zenlunatic@ubuntu:~$ sudo mformat a:04:09
jhennmformat: Can't open /dev/fd0: No such file or directory04:09
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ZBlach|Awayhi04:09
cafuegojhenn: Load the floppy driver.04:09
felix_i CAN log in as root in a console, so whats the difference between recovery and root in terminal ?04:10
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jhenncafuego: you mean the kernel module?04:10
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ZBlach|AwayI have a speedstream 6520 router/dsl modem that I cannot connect to using linux. any one else have the same problem/suggestions04:10
ZBlach|Away?04:10
cafuegojhenn: yep04:10
jhenncafuego: its loaded04:10
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SpudDogghello04:10
jhenncafuego: i can access floppy through nautilus04:11
cafuegojhenn: Hmm, odd. can you run /mkfs.fat' on it?04:11
SpudDoggI have a pretty dumb question...Is it possible that Ubuntu is blocking ports even though they're open in my router settings?04:11
felix_bob2 , i know my line 19 by heart ;    root         ALL=(ALL) ALL          (and i added under it    ' felix         ALL=(ALL) ALL04:12
cafuegoSpudDogg: No. Ubuntu isn't listening on any ports by default and does not have a firewall enabled byd efault.04:12
bob2wtf04:12
cafuegofelix_: You may have messed up tab or spacing. Just check to make sure.04:12
bob2felix_: why did you add that line at all?04:12
felix_bob2, cause i was unable to sudo with felix, it was saying the user ws not in the sudoers04:13
bob2ZBlach|Away: if the real problem is that it's a wireless AP that you cannot access while using ndiswrapper, you need to mention that in your question04:13
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bob2felix_: the root user is not enabled on ubuntu, anyway04:13
felix_i KNOW04:13
felix_felix is  user04:13
ZBlach|Awayalright, I cannot access my wireless AP using ndiswrapper04:13
felix_but i cannot like, run updates or anything04:14
cafuegofelix_: You normally add a user to the group 'admin' to enable sudo for them.04:14
bob2felix_: so why do you have a sudo line for root?04:14
bob2felix_: your user doesn't need to be in sudoers, anyway04:14
ZBlach|AwayI was able to using my old router, but we've had to change net providers04:14
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cafuegofelix_: Did you cross-upgrade from Debian to Ubuntu?04:14
felix_well, it wasnt working, and its still not working04:14
felix_no.04:14
bob2felix_: are you in the admin group?04:14
felix_simple first install on a printed cd.04:14
cafuegofelix_: How many users did you create on the system?04:15
felix_i will have to reboot to see that since no root acess at all here04:15
felix_104:15
bob2felix_: you don't need root access to chec kthat04:15
cafuegofelix_: Ok. Does your sudoers file mention '%admin' at all?04:15
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felix_when i typed  adduser felix admin , it said  'admin group didnt exist'04:15
cafuegofelix_: Are you sure you're on Ubuntu?04:16
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bob2felix_: what does "dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n1" print out?04:16
alzabarhi04:16
felix_cafeugo, ahh that is, i am on WinME ! ...04:16
sproingieit's adm, not admin04:16
cafuegoAnd if so, which version? 4.10? 5.04? 5.10?04:16
felix_stupid question.04:16
cafuegosproingie: No, it's 'admin'.04:16
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alzabarI just installed ubuntu and my x failed to start04:16
NoUsefelix_ being a smart ass is a GREAT way to get people to help you04:16
bob2sproingie: adm is a different group04:17
sproingiechuck@tetsuo:~$ cat /etc/group | grep adm04:17
sproingieadm:x:4:chuck04:17
sproingielpadmin:x:107:chuck04:17
alzabarI have no idea what to do04:17
sproingieamd that's it04:17
bob2sproingie: you didn't install hoary04:17
sproingieand yeah i'm pretty sure i'm on ubuntu04:17
felix_NoUIse, i DID said it was a fresh install of a printed CD , and he ask me if i am sur if its ubuntu04:17
bob2also, please don't be a smart arse for no reason04:17
bob2felix_: can you show me what that printed out?04:17
sproingiebob2: actually i did.  however, i used the expert install, which sets up a normal root user04:17
bob2as fun as you whinging is04:17
NoUsefelix_ from what I've seen thats a valid quetsion04:17
bob2sproingie: right04:17
cafuegofelix_: I salso asked WHICH version. Can you answer or shall I stop trying to help?04:17
felix_bob2, ii  libc6          2.3.2.ds1-20ub GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone04:18
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cafuego!info libc6 hoary04:18
cafuegoshite04:18
ZBlach|Away-_-04:18
bob2felix_: and you did a default install?04:18
WinZ!info apache2 breezy04:18
felix_hoary04:18
felix_5.0404:18
cafuegothe bot is dead04:18
bob2felix_: if you did an expert install, you will be thwapped04:18
felix_bob2m, yeas04:18
WinZmm04:18
felix_default install04:19
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remyforbes777is the xorg config file located in the etc directory04:19
cafuegoremyforbes777:  /etc/X1104:19
remyforbes777cafuego: thanks04:20
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felix_bob2 , it SHOULD be something simple, since i installed, logged in, and i was just not able to udpate (didnt accept password)         then i add a line in /etc/sudoers , thats all04:20
cafuegofelix_: At the bottom of the sudoers file, there should be a line starting with '%admin'. Your usera ccount should have been automatically added to the admin group, thus enabling sudo for you.04:21
cafuegofelix_: Where did you obtain that cd?04:21
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felix_its an official printed cd from ubuntu.org, i installed my ubuntu with the same kind of cd...and all worked well (this is not my comp)04:22
bluefoxicycan hoary livecd auto-build an fstab?04:22
cafuegofelix_: Any chance you could try and do a fresh install?04:22
bluefoxicyit does'nt see fat32 /dev/hda1 and let me point-click-mount04:22
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felix_yep..thinking about this..04:22
felix_i'll reinstall :(04:22
cafuegoCoz it sounds to me like part of the installer just didn't run.04:22
bob2felix_: you're sure sudo wouldn't take your user password?04:23
charlie_I want to get to irc.freenode.net04:23
cafuegocharlie_: That's where you are now.04:23
alzabarwhat the command to reconfigure x04:23
felix_felix@renouveau:~$ sudo -s04:23
felix_>>> sudoers file: syntax error, line 19 <<<04:23
cafuegosudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:23
charlie_ok thanks04:23
alzabarthanks04:23
bob2felix_: no, before you touched it04:23
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felix_before, it was saying that user was not in the sudoers group04:24
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cafuegofelix_: You mentioned running 'adduser'...04:24
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cafuegofelix_: Did you not create your account using the installer dialog?04:25
felix_yeas cafeugo04:25
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felix_i did a adduser felix adm     after i saw i was unable to sudo,       and an adduser felix admin   (it said admin group didnt exist)04:26
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remyforbes777i thought it was root not admin04:26
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felix_not the same thing.04:26
bob2remyforbes777: no04:27
cafuegofelix_: The 'admin' group should have been created in the install process. So something failed to run, which emans one or more parts of the system are not set up correctly.04:27
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felix_cafeugo, eh04:27
cafuegofelix_: So i think your best bet is to do a new install.04:27
felix_well looks like a reinstall04:27
bob2felix_: you really saw no errors during the install?04:27
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XorlevIPv6: Anyone have experience with the tspc tunneling client (for freenet6 (hexago))?04:27
felix_except one or two about fonts  nope04:27
cafuegoReinstalling is probably going to be quciker then trying to track down and fix the original problem.04:27
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bob2Xorlev: best to just ask your question04:28
felix_so, i'll come back... ;)04:28
felix_thx04:28
cafuegoXorlev: sudo apt-get install freenet6; vi /etc/tspc.conf ?04:28
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Xorlevbob2: It appears when I run the tspc tunneling client (either compiled off their site, or from packages) it runs fine at first, then a few hours later it crashes or something, preventing sudo actions, really hiking load avgs, IPv6 traffic stops, and ultimately leads to me rebooting.04:29
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procrastinationnyo04:30
XorlevI have to a hard reboot as well because most commands stop working and programs don't stop.04:30
bob2Xorlev: read dmesg04:30
procrastinationnhow do i get mps's to play ?04:30
procrastinationnmp3's04:30
cafuego!codecs04:31
cafuegoarrgh04:31
procrastinationnlol04:31
cafuegoprocrastinationn: http://wiki.ubuntu.com?RestrictedFormats04:31
cafuegos/?/\//04:31
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cafuegoI should chuck a backup bot on my desktop box04:31
Xorlevbob2: I haven't run it in hours, but would it be in /var/log/syslog?04:31
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ssdd534what is ubuntus mirror http address?04:32
Plukweird installed breezy and now im missing my us_intl keymap04:32
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cafuegohttp://XX.archive.ubuntu.com/04:33
cafuegowhere XX is your local country code04:33
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Xorlevbob2: This might be it...I remember this from my console a few days ago when I was trying to reboot. Sep 28 07:37:37 Munimentum kernel: unregister_netdevice: waiting for tun to become free. Usage count = 1 Message repeats over and over04:33
Samhain`is there a fix for ubuntu only showing 640x480?04:33
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TokenBadI didn't know blender for linux was so popular04:34
XorlevSamhain`: I run at 1280x1024...it could be your graphics driver.04:34
gpdIs there a breezy-extras repository anywhere yet? (or libdvdcss.deb)04:34
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Samhain`I just installed the nvidia driver04:34
Samhain`and it's working04:34
nomasteryoda|wgood04:34
Samhain`but now I only get 640x48004:34
nomasteryoda|wSamhain`, you can configure that04:34
XorlevAre the resolutions set correctly in xorg.conf?04:34
bob2Xorlev: reading dmesg when the problem first starts would be enlightening, I'd suspect the kernel oopsed04:34
Samhain`they may not be04:34
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nomasteryoda|wSamhain`, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"04:35
alzabarexit04:35
nomasteryoda|wit will write a new one04:35
alzabarquit04:35
b3nwis it possible to have xfce running twice via vnc sessions? it works without a hitch for the 1st session but won't start for a 2nd04:35
alzabarwoops04:35
nomasteryoda|wlol04:35
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nomasteryoda|wb3nw, it should04:35
Erronhihi04:35
nomasteryoda|wmost x will04:35
b3nwdies on me04:36
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b3nwwhen I start the 2nd vncserver04:36
b3nwxfce4 won't start04:36
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XorlevReading my kern.log and syslog, it appears the problem started at 1:39am, no other messages other than the same which repeats over and over.04:37
b3nwhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/262604:38
b3nwis the paste04:38
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Erronhow can I remove var exports04:38
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fr33mindNinjew: that's work very well and behond!04:39
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fr33mindNinjew: The console has a better hires!!! :)  very cool.  But... even with the "splash" parameter, I loose the splash.04:39
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Ninjewfr33mind: Oh really04:40
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Ninjewfr33mind: p.s. sorry that I had to run04:40
Ninjewfr33mind: hmm, I'm not sure about how to get the splash back04:40
fr33mindNinjew: ok thanks :)04:40
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Ninjewfr33mind: I'm not exactly sure how ubuntu does its bootsplash in particular04:41
Lars_GSeveas: Are you celebrating?04:41
fr33mindQuestion: Where do evolution save account list ?  (it's not in .evolution)04:41
Lars_Gfr33mind: Might be somewhere under .gnome04:41
Ninjewfr33mind: It will probably work if you drop back down to a lower resolution, but then you lose the hires console04:42
Ninjewfr33mind: Ask around, someone might know how to get bootsplash working with a 1024x768 framebuffer04:42
fr33mindok...04:42
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fr33mindhow to get bootsplash working with a 1024x768 framebuffer ?  ;)04:43
fr33mindLars_G: I take a look..04:43
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funkyHatNinjew, fr33mind, usplash is know not to work with framebuffer modes other than the default at the moment04:43
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fr33mindok.04:43
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NinjewfunkyHat: Well in that case then04:43
funkyHat*known04:43
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NinjewfunkyHat: What resolution does the default fb run at? 800x600?04:44
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funkyHatlooks like 600x400 to me04:44
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cafuego~hi04:44
ubotu_cafuego: I haven't a clue04:44
cafuegooh dear :-)04:44
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cafuego!codecs04:44
cafuego~codecs04:44
ubotu_[codecs]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats04:44
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cafuegocool.04:44
Remmelasall, i have a question that i've seen discussed on the forums, but can find no answer to.  I can rip a cd at 19x+ with grip(paranoia disabled), but with sound juicer(paranoia disabled) i get at best 0.2x04:45
funkyHateh04:45
funkyHat~help04:45
funkyHat!help04:45
funkyHatahahar04:45
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SirWraithso i'm gonna put ubuntu on my powerbook04:48
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SirWraithanyone have an idea how much space i would wanna allocate?04:48
RemmelasI've used 3 gigs so far04:49
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Lars_GSirWraith: Enjoy it.04:49
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Remmelasjust installed this morning, so, allocate at least 3 gigs =)04:49
Lars_GSirWraith: I get mine in 20 days04:49
funkyHatSirWraith, 10GB will be plenty04:50
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whyameyelooking for help getting my modem to work...04:50
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Ninjewthis is so wierd: large file downloads just stall out, and I can't figure out why04:51
Remmelasnevermind all bout the cd ripping question, figured out that it's due to sound juicer, if i don't pipe to lame, it's fast too04:52
procrastinationni need mp3 playback04:52
procrastinationndamage04:52
SirWraithalright, thanks guys04:53
procrastinationnhey how can i play xbox live on linux04:53
funkyHatprocrastinationn,04:53
funkyHat!mp304:53
funkyHatoops04:53
funkyHat~mp304:53
ubotu_it has been said that mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support04:53
procrastinationnim just a damn newbie04:54
funkyHatclick on the link that ubotu_ just said04:54
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funkyHatand follow the instructions on that page04:54
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procrastinationnlol04:54
procrastinationnwhat about xbox and ftping and tunnelling04:55
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Toma-anyone know of a way to speed up java?04:55
Toma-without getting new hardware04:55
funkyHati'm not sure what you mean by your xbox question...04:56
funkyHatyou own an xbox right?04:56
funkyHatand it's connected to the internet through your computer, which is running linux?04:56
procrastinationnyeah04:56
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funkyHathow did you set that up? using firestarter?04:56
procrastinationni know how to do it on windows04:56
funkyHator haven't you set up any way of sharing your internet connection yet?04:57
procrastinationni dont think so04:57
funkyHatok04:57
felix_Bob2, cafeugo , first boot after my new REinstall now ... I still cant sudo ; felix is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.04:57
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funkyHatinstall the program called 'firestarter' from synaptic04:57
procrastinationnxboxconnect  and ftp flash04:57
funkyHatfelix_, your name should not be on the sudoers file04:58
felix_??04:58
procrastinationni dont know how to use synaptic04:58
butcherbirdmember of admin group?04:58
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funkyHatthe group 'admin' which you should be a member of, should be in the sudoers file04:58
gefbalshello..04:58
funkyHatprocrastinationn, click system > administration > synaptic package manager04:59
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gefbalsmirramax backports are not available...and i cannot install j2re pagkage..where can i get one?04:59
funkyHat(enter your password)04:59
procrastinationnok04:59
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felix_i'm just telling here whats going wrong on my screen,  if you can help ; go for it, but i just reinstalled cause of this problem, i need something concrete please :, /04:59
funkyHatclick in the right pane, and type firestarter04:59
procrastinationnhold on05:00
procrastinationnlol05:00
Carpe_LibertatemIs there anyway to make a bootable versionf of Ubuntu on a portable hard disk? I wasn to be able to boot from it on any computer that supports USB boots.05:00
funkyHatok05:00
Carpe_LibertatemWant to be*05:00
gefbalsmirramax backports are not available...and i cannot install j2re pagkage..where can i get one?05:00
D1whats been going on with backports lately?05:01
D1very little updates.05:01
locomortogefbals: in breezy05:01
locomortogefbals:  its very stable atm05:01
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funkyHatCarpe_Libertatem, doing a 'server' install, and then doing 'apt-get install ubuntu-live' would probably be a good start05:01
procrastinationndude im lost05:01
funkyHatit would need some fiddling though05:01
procrastinationni opened the manager05:02
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gefbalslocomorto: im using hoary..is ok...to put breezy repo?05:02
bob2felix_: that sounds very much like a non-default install05:02
funkyHatprocrastinationn, do you have the synaptic package manager window open now?05:02
procrastinationnyeah05:02
bob2felix_: either expert or server05:02
felix_bob2, i assure you, it is, default :|05:02
Carpe_Libertatemhmm05:02
funkyHatok, have you found the pacakge called 'firestarter'?05:02
locomortogefbals: just replace hoary with breezy in /etc/apt/sources.list05:02
locomortogefbals: And remove backports/extras05:02
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felix_bob2,  its the official install Cd from ubuntu.org , and the same cd installed on my pc whitout problem05:02
locomortogefbals: There not needed in breezy05:02
procrastinationndude ill brb gotta go to taco bell05:03
Carpe_Libertatem..05:03
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locomortogefbals: Then do a apt-get update05:03
locomortogefbals: apt-get dist-upgrade05:04
gefbalslocomorto : deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted is this correct?05:05
locomortogefbals: Dont have backports or extra05:05
gefbalslocomorto: ic.. let me try..:)05:05
locomortogefbals: If you have extra that is05:05
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funkyHatbye guys05:06
remyforbes777fontconfig error: cannot load default config file05:06
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boxerboy29i have a wuestion a lil kinda off topic but is ubuntu and libranet same command wise?05:06
remyforbes777anyone seen this05:06
felix_bob2, it keeps telling me that the group admin'  doesnt exist05:07
Mikshow can i navigate in the console through folder that have names separated by spaces?05:07
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felix_and there was no %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL05:07
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felix_in etc/sudoers05:08
felix_WHAT IS THIS05:08
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cafuego_that was interesting05:08
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butcherbirdMiks: * is your friend05:11
felix_cafeugo  ;)05:11
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tomas_algum do RS Porto Alegre?05:11
cafuego_~br05:11
ubotu_Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigado.05:11
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remyforbes777can not havign the correct fonts loaded cause you not tobe able to startx05:12
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ksmurfbob2 nanolith seveas!!!!! all of those @ bugzilla and the developers YOU ARE GODS!!!!05:13
togssndj05:14
markinhosIm looking for the repository for win32codecs...05:14
felix_bob2, btw, my problem is exactly the same as this guy http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24598.html05:15
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gefbalslocomorto:  finish... doing it ...but sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5.. pagkage not found..05:15
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gefbalslocomorto:  what shall i do?05:15
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whyameyehow do you use the filters in Synaptic? I'm trying to locate a broken package....05:16
vitrioli'm having a problem....don't know how to fix this one05:16
vitriolsudo: timestamp too far in the future: Sep 28 21:01:55 200505:16
esacwhenever i start firefox it asks me to choose a profile. i try to open the default one that is already there and it wont let me because it is already in use. any ideas?05:16
locomortogefbals: you should have blackdown java now05:16
vitriolthe root of the problem is my clock running too fast cause of the timer check bug :(05:16
SirWraithok, got another question05:16
markinhoswhere can I find the win32codecs?05:16
vitriolbut i guess i can't use any sudo commands for an half hour or so05:16
gefbalslocomorto: what do you men..blackdown java?05:16
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bob2felix_: if they had a real issue, they presumably would have filed a bug05:16
bob2ksmurf: fixed?05:17
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SirWraithwhen i partition this disk, i'm gonna have to have everything be erased...05:17
felix_bob2, well i'm not the 1st one with this problem, and it does exist..05:17
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bob2felix_: as above05:17
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SirWraithhow many partitions do i wanna create (/, boot, swap, etc) since i am doing it fresh05:17
juliaintennhi, new ubuntu/linux user here -- can i change my desktop settings to icon text shows up on top of solid color even when I have a desktop image05:17
gefbalslocomorto: i found it..:) ill will try..it..05:17
butcherbirdesac: sounds like firefox is already running.05:18
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esacbutcherbird: ps aux doesn't show anything05:18
vitriolcan anyone tell me how i can get sudo back?05:18
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felix_bob2, so since they dont have filled a bug, my problem is not real.05:19
vitriolsudo: timestamp too far in the future: Sep 28 21:01:55 200505:19
dooglusesac: if "ps aux" doesn't show anything, it means you don't have any processes running.  is your computer switched on?05:19
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vitriolthis is *really* not a good thing (TM)05:19
alzabarhi people05:19
SirWraithI've got a few install questions, and if someone could PM me for 2 minutes, that would be wonderful05:19
esacdooglus: obviously i meant ps aux isn't showing firefox listed as a running application05:19
dooglusesac: oh, i see.05:19
bob2felix_: why don't you file a bug then?05:19
alzabarI got ubuntu installed but I have  to change to my onboard graphics since X wont start with my PCI video card05:20
alzabarIm in X now but I have no sound05:20
bob2felix_: I'm very reluctant to believe random reports on the forums, since people there seem to have a habit of messing with things they don't understand05:20
alzabarkeeps saying so such device05:20
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felix_bob2, i will start by being able to sudo, if you please..05:20
bob2felix_: oh, stop being such a gimp05:20
_Jes_if I make a screenshot the Zapping program, I am using to watch Tv, and all OpenGL programs are just blck boxes.05:20
bob2idiot05:20
alzabarit sees all my hardware but nothing works05:20
felix_bob2, well, i really didnt change anything at the install...05:20
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_Jes_s there a way to make a real screenshot?05:20
maximauswireless noob question: I'm gonna grab a d-link-g520 card tomorrow, router brand shouldn't matter, right?05:20
felix_and it seems i'M not the only one with this prob05:21
felix_thats all05:21
twiztedI need to see if someone can help me, I have ubuntu installed and Apache2 PHP5 and MySQL installed and working. but there is one thing that is bugging me. When using a link to a user directory i.e. http://www.link.com/~user it will only serve a index.html automatically... I need it to serve index.php but without the index.html file it just says page cannot be displayed05:21
alzabarmaybe I can use my onboard sound also is there a way to configure alsa05:21
butcherbirdesac: sorry all outa ideas :p05:21
bob2maximaus: what chipset does that card use?05:21
maximausbob2, I forget, but it's 100% supported, I checked.05:22
maximaus$40 at Circuit City.05:22
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vitriolvitriol@solstice:~$ sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx05:23
vitriolsudo: timestamp too far in the future: Sep 28 21:01:55 200505:23
vitriolnobody knows how to fix this??05:23
bob2vitriol: one question mark is plenty05:23
cafuego_!test05:23
ubotuCrashed.05:23
dooglusif I plug an external monitor into my laptop before I boot, it works.  If I plug it in after I boot, it doesn't.  Is there some way I can get it working without rebooting if it wasn't plugged in when I booted?05:23
vitriolfigured i'd ask one more time then give up for tonight05:23
bob2vitriol: what does "date" print?05:24
vitriolWed Sep 28 20:24:06 PDT 200505:24
vitriolbob2: it's the timer check bug05:24
bob2why is the timestamp in the future?05:24
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vitriolrebooted, then ntp fixed the tdate05:24
dooglusdid you notice that the ubuntu bugzilla is an hour fast?05:24
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vitriolis there an option i can pass to the kernel at boot?05:25
vitriollike no_timer_check05:25
vitriol(that didn't work)05:25
alzabarcan anybody help me with my sound05:25
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_Jes_any hints on how to make a screenshot of opengl games?05:25
vitriol[  110.285064]  Losing some ticks... checking if CPU frequency changed.05:26
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twiztedI need to see if someone can help me, I have ubuntu installed and Apache2 PHP5 and MySQL installed and working. but there is one thing that is bugging me. When using a link to a user directory i.e. http://www.link.com/~user it will only serve a index.html automatically... I need it to serve index.php but without the index.html file it just says page cannot be displayed05:26
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dooglusvitriol: is this it? https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1630405:27
bob2vitriol: perhaps hpt or something is broken05:27
Sini have a problem setting up my dsl to get on the net. not much help on the boards so i came here. im using ubuntu 5.0405:27
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Hikaru79Does anyone know what package wnck-applet is part of? libwnck18?05:27
bob2Sin: you need to provide a lot more detail05:27
Sinok05:27
bob2Hikaru79: "dpkg -S wnck-app" will tell you05:27
Sinneither root terminal nor networking will come up. they seem to crash05:27
Hikaru79Ah, thank you! :)05:28
bob2Sin: ignore that05:28
Sinon the live cd i was able to get into networking and root05:28
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cafuego_bye ubotu_05:28
Sinim on dsl, connected to my ethernet port. im pretty sure they use the ppp0, i try to srt the autofind the modem and it says its not connected or busy05:29
bob2so, you want to use pppoe?05:29
bob2or is it a router?05:29
Sinit worked for me whan i was on xandros05:29
Sinjust a modem05:29
bob2then run 'sudo ppoeconf' in a terminal05:30
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jrattner1How can i use the info from xev, to link a button to a feature.  For example, my volume down button on my keyboard actually turning my volume down?..05:30
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Sinok im on windows, so ill have to boot over there. is there anything else other than that i should do while im over there05:30
bob2system -> preferences -> keybindings, if it works05:30
Varangerwhen will Breezy be out?05:30
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jrattner1bob2, keybindings05:31
remyforbes777how do you convert to using Xfree86 instead of xorg05:31
remyforbes777or is there a difference05:31
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bob2remyforbes777: why would you want that?05:32
bob2xfree86 is the old unmaintained X server05:32
remyforbes777want Xfree8605:32
remyforbes777?05:32
Sinso i take that as a no?05:32
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remyforbes777because i see that is what knoppix is using , X wont work with my ubuntu 64 install05:32
remyforbes777but it will with knoppix05:32
butcherbirdany of you guys use pure-ftpd on a nonstandard port? i got a question.05:33
bob2butcherbird: that's unlikely to work05:33
bob2Sin: yes05:33
remyforbes777and during knoppix initialization it said it was using xfree8605:33
butcherbirdbob2: so far your right ;)05:33
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alzabarhow do I config alsa05:33
bob2butcherbird: why would you do that?05:33
bob2alzabar: there's nothing to configure05:33
alzabarwell05:33
alzabarmy sound is not working05:33
cafuego_butcherbird: It will be OK provided you tell ip_contrack_ftp that the nonstandard port needs to be allowed via RELATED traffic (passive ftp)05:33
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cafuego_Google for how to do that, I forget...05:34
butcherbirdbob2: thought i might avoid anyone trying to brute force stuff like that05:34
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cafuego_butcherbird: use 'sftp' or s'cp' for that.05:34
alzabarI got a sound blaster and a onboard sound05:34
alzabarI want at least one of them to work05:34
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_Jes_is it possible to make screenshots of opengl games?05:35
butcherbirdbob2, cafuego_, back to the drawingboard thx guys..05:35
alzabarI got no alsamixer nothing I want to know whats going on05:35
felixbob2, just for info :  I did it... :)      ; i had to edit the sudoers file to add Myusername ALL=(ALL) ALL   , so i could open Users and groups , i Created an Admin group (since it really didnt exist)       and added my username to it, then i will have to remove my username from the sudoers in a few minutes.. twas that 'simple'05:35
bob2butcherbird: ftp is inherently insecure05:37
bob2felix: please file a bug05:37
alzabarcan someone help me05:37
bob2alzabar: disable the onboard one in the bios05:37
alzabarI cant05:37
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alzabarthere is no option05:38
felixbob2, its hard to do file a bug a bit.... what will i say  ? i mean, i didnt use any special commands or software, it was a basic install using an official cd .. its a bug allright, but i think bugzilla needs to be more..'specific' no ?05:38
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juliaintennany way to change desktop icons to text below them shows up on solid color background?05:39
alzabarok back to windows05:39
bob2felix: someone needs to report it05:39
DonLbob2, are you running Breezy?05:40
bob2alzabar: shame you give up so easy, but googd luck05:40
alzabarwell its been a month05:40
bob2DonL: yes05:40
felixi will go, but i dont have much to say.05:40
alzabarno one can give me a straight answer always pointing me somewhere else05:40
felixopensource needs everyone to participate, im aware of this..05:40
bob2alzabar: great attitude, too05:40
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DonLbob2, did you upgrade, and did you have any problems?05:40
_Jes_alzabar: if you can't disable the onboard chip - why not remove the soundcard?05:40
bob2DonL: yes, only that X didn't start, which was trivial to fix05:41
davebgimp1Hi I have a HP Pavilion ze2315us laptop and can't for the life of me get Ubuntu to boot. It seems to complete the install, but freezes at times when loading and if it gets to the login, once I sign in, it freezes at the loading screen. Am I out of luck? Or is there something I can do?05:41
Varangerhow can I uninstall grub?05:41
bob2alzabar: just blacklist the module for it, then05:41
bob2Varanger: why?05:41
alzabarI can remove it its a onboard05:41
DonLbob2, help! That's my problem. I don't know how to fix it05:41
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Varangerbob2: actually, I'd like to install grub on sdaX and leave the boot sector with NT loader05:41
liberviscoHello..05:41
remyforbes777hey dave I am having the same issue05:42
bob2DonL: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:42
remyforbes777i have a compaq V230005:42
bob2Varanger: then use windows to reinstall the bootloader in the mbr05:42
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remyforbes777is your an amd 64 turion05:42
liberviscoI'm currently on Debian, trying it out after Ubuntu.. but it's too outdated and I'm on modem so dist-upgrading to testing isn't really the best way to go...05:42
_Jes_alzabar: i meant the sound blaster and not the onboard sound05:43
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davebgimp1amd sempron 300005:43
remyforbes777ok05:43
remyforbes777well i am having the same issue05:43
Varangerbob2: then I used a rescue cd on Linux to install grub on sdaX ?05:43
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remyforbes777i jsut reinstalled ubuntu 64 and at login it freezes05:43
remyforbes777sometime it wouldnt even get through the full install05:44
DonLThanks, bob2. I'll try that right now.05:44
davebgimp1same problem although I don't think my processor is a 6405:44
liberviscoI think I'll better stick to Ubuntu.. but I wanted to ask something, can I install packages from breezy into hoary and then later from dapner to breezy?05:44
DonL...off I go to try...05:44
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remyforbes777ok05:44
remyforbes777i dont know what to do05:44
bob2Varanger: yes05:44
crimsunlibervisco, in that case you'd be better off just running breezy and dapper, respectively05:44
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davebgimp1it stalls while loading sometimes and when it does get to the login screen it freezes at the gnome splash05:45
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davebgimp1tried the Breezy preview and Hoary05:45
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remyforbes777yep05:45
remyforbes777yep05:45
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liberviscocrimsun, yeah.. I meant before the actual release05:45
remyforbes777me also05:45
GTswaggerAnybody around that is good with keychain?05:45
remyforbes777i can even put in my username and password05:45
crimsunlibervisco, there's no reason you can't run the devel branch.05:46
remyforbes777then when the splash screen comes on the sound seems like its sticking and it freezes05:46
crimsunGTswagger, what's the issue?05:46
GTswaggerI'm having a problem getting it to work;  namely ssh-agent not adding ~/.ssh/id_dsa  ("could not open a connection to your authentication agent"05:46
liberviscocrimsun, right.. so I just dist-upgrade to it05:46
davebgimp1exactly the same thing05:46
remyforbes777dang05:46
liberviscomodify sources.list, set breezy as default in apt.conf and off I go :)05:46
liberviscoright?05:46
crimsunGTswagger, are you sourcing the correct keychain script from ~/.bashrc?05:47
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davebgimp1Can anyone give me any ideas on something I can try to fix this?05:47
Sinok05:47
GTswaggercrimsun -- not sure what you mean by that;  I am able to go:  ssh user@host  ... and only validate the pass on my key to login....05:47
Sini did the ppoeconf and got nothing05:48
GTswaggercrimsun -- I have also added the following to .bash_profile:   keychain ~/.ssh/id_da    (newline)  . ~/.keychain/$HOSTNAME-sh05:48
Sinthe sudo ppoeconf bob2 suggested about 10 mins ago that is05:48
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ramblingturtle23hello, I am having a problem with X after trying to upgrade to breezy now all i get is the command line anybody willing to help out05:48
bob2Sin: "got nothing" is not a description of the problem05:48
GTswaggercrimsun -- haven't logged out or anything since changing the .bash_profile file, if that matters05:48
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crimsunGTswagger, typo?05:48
bob2Sin: no one else can see your computer, you need to be very specific about what happens, and what is displayed05:49
GTswaggercrimsun -- no, what I typed is exactly what's on my system05:49
Sini did it, it said it couldnt be found05:49
whyameyeam I right that a modem with an ESS chipset simply will not work in Hoary?05:49
bob2Sin: install the pppoeconf package05:49
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crimsunGTswagger, since when did you start creating id_da and id_da.pub (vs. id_dsa and id_dsa.pub, respectively)?05:49
GTswaggercrimsun -- I'm trying to have password-less scp via cron... and this is the only way to do that, I've been told05:50
GTswaggeroh - sorry -- yes, that is a typo... id_dsa05:50
Sincan i do that offline? because i have yet to be able to get online with ubuntu05:50
GTswaggerI always typo that to... like 80%+ ... dunno why05:50
GTswaggerUGH05:50
GTswagger*too05:50
bob2Sin: if you have a cd05:50
GTswagger<--- needs some coffee05:50
crimsunGTswagger, and after logging out and back in?05:50
GTswaggercrimsun -- haven't... should I do that now05:50
Sinthe install cd?05:50
crimsunGTswagger, yes05:51
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GTswaggercrimsun -- merge?  You on Gentoo?05:52
Sinthe install cd?05:52
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davebgimp1Can someone please give me a hand with my Ubuntu install? The load at times hangs and when logging in, the system freezes ad the sound seems to skip every time.05:52
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crimsunGTswagger, no, I have to merge Debian changes to the keychain package into the Ubuntu ones and upload05:52
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_Jes_Sin: yes, the install cd05:52
davebgimp1I can't seem to get Ubuntu to work at all05:52
GTswaggercrimsun -- woohoo... when I did ssh-add ~/.ssh/id_dsa it asked for the pass and added it05:53
GTswaggercrimsun++05:53
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Sinso i click on the cd icon on the desktop and just root around till i find it?05:53
abarbacciahey - how come when i go to play an mpg from firefox, totem gives me an error like this: Totem could not play 'fd://0'.05:54
abarbacciainstall the appropriate plugin05:54
vladuz976anybody know how i can extract email addresses out of a text file with vim?05:54
abarbacciano decoders found to handle the stream05:54
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ksmurfwhat to hear the meaning of ironic.... I jumped in to compliment everyone for getting battery indicators working in breezy and I crashed..... and lost my internal wifi card yet again.... and screen dim dumps me to a hibranate that doesn't work ....rofl...05:55
jrattner1How can i use the info from xev, to link a button to a feature.  For example, my volume down button on my keyboard actually turning my volume down?05:55
wrabbit01Hey everybody, I installed a bunch of audio drivers and codecs today just to get mp3 and other files working.  Now that it's all done and fine, I can't get any sound in games like Solarwolf etc.05:55
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wrabbit01Any easy way to fix this?05:55
ksmurfBut hey my battery indicator works............05:55
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bob2jrattner1: read what I said earlier05:55
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_Jes_Sin: use: sudo apt-get install pppoeconf - the cd should be used automaticaly05:56
ksmurfbob2 pm me if you have time pls....05:56
jrattner1bob2, the keybindings thing?05:56
DonLbob2, it appears I don05:56
DonLdon't have  xserver-org05:57
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ksmurfxorg05:57
bob2ksmurf: I don't do that, sorry05:57
bob2jrattner1: yes; or doesn't it produce a keysym?05:57
crimsunwrabbit01, are you using default Ubuntu audio settings?05:57
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wrabbit01As far as I know crimson.05:58
wrabbit01Unless the audio drivers and codecs messed around with em05:58
crimsunwrabbit01, then you'll want to stop esd before you start a game05:58
ksmurfno problem..... I just wanted you to take a look at my dmesg now that my card is down again.... last night it was up05:58
wrabbit01How do I start it again crimsun?05:58
jrattner1bob2, i believe it does, I have it report two seperate events a keypress and keyrelease05:58
crimsunwrabbit01, System> Preferences> Sound> uncheck Enable sound server startup05:58
dooglusI asked "if I plug an external monitor into my laptop before I boot, it works.  If I plug it in after I boot, it doesn't.  Is there some way I can get it working without rebooting if it wasn't plugged in when I booted?"05:58
crimsunwrabbit01, then start your game. After you exit your game, recheck that box that you unchecked.05:59
dooglusI discovered the answer: on my laptop I press "Fn" and hit F5, then restart X.05:59
abarbacciawhats the name of the w32codecs in breezy?05:59
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DonLbob2, can I ask what you did again? Maybe I wrote it down wrong. Was it "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org?05:59
wrabbit01crimsun: You're a champ.  It works. :)05:59
dooglusI'd prefer not to have to restart X, but it's better than rebooting05:59
wrabbit01crimsun: Thanks alot05:59
FR500hello05:59
crimsunwrabbit01, np05:59
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_Jes_dooglus: does a restart of X work? (ctrl-alt-backspace)06:00
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allhi06:00
_Jes_oh, you where faster ...06:00
jrattner1bob2, ?06:00
alldid u have cam,06:00
robert1123hello all. Can any one tell me how to uninstall a program that u get through the apt-get command06:01
dooglus_Jes_: only if I do the Fn+F5 trick first06:01
abarbacciaapt-get remove <program name> robert112306:01
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jrattner1apt-get remove06:01
jrattner1yeh06:01
robert1123thank you06:01
FR500how can i identify which app has a port open? I have something on port 6667 and i dunno what it is06:01
FR500listening on port 6667 i mean06:01
dooglus_Jes_: otherwise, it doesn't notice that I added or removed the monitor06:01
dooglus(I have it set up to go dual-head if there is an external monitor)06:01
_Jes_so it works: Yeehaa! :-)06:03
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DonLbob2, seems like you're needed tonight. I'll try a few other things and let you know. Thanks for your help. Night06:03
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ColonelKernelwell, I was gonna try out gentoo on the spare box - but the minimal install cd for it is borked06:03
robert1123how do you upgrade a program that u get with the apt-get command?06:03
dooglus_Jes_: I was posting the answer here so it's next to the question.  useful for future reference.06:03
_Jes_robert1123: try this -> man apt-get06:04
robert1123thanks06:04
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remyforbes777can someone tell me what the command is to reconfigure X06:06
hondjesudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:06
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remyforbes777hondje: excellent , thanks06:07
hondjeNo problem06:07
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FR500how can i identify which app has a port open? I have something listening on port 6667 and i dunno what it is06:07
dooglusFR500: "netstat -ap"06:08
nickrudFR500, sudo netstat -tlp06:08
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_Jes_6667 is used by edonkey/xmule06:08
nicholaspaulhey gurus06:08
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nicholaspauldoes anyone know how to format a newly -installed hard drive?06:09
grndslmwho should I talk to about asking for a feature in Gnome??  specifically, I want an option in Gnome so that all windows stay maximized, whether it's firefox or the software updates screen, or even IM windows...06:09
dooglusnickrud: the netstat man page doesn't say what -t does.  do you know?06:09
hondjenicholaspaul:  mkfs06:09
crimsundooglus, tcp06:09
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hondjegparted can do it if you want a gui06:10
nicholaspaulhondje: thanks!06:10
nickrudlistening on tlp, if i remembe correctly06:10
hondje:)06:10
doogluscrimsun: huh?06:10
nickrudheh06:10
bob832hi, has anyone gotten the dell 720 printer to work in ubuntu?06:10
crimsundooglus, [--tcp|-t] 06:10
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nickrudtcp :)06:10
doogluscrimsun: it doesn't say what --tcp does, either06:10
FR500nickrud: it doesnt show, but if i do an nmap localhost it says 6667 open06:10
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crimsundooglus, should it? (It means show TCP connections)06:11
hondjeFR500: lsof | grep 6667 maybe06:11
doogluscrimsun: man pages should document all the flags a program accepts, yes06:11
crimsundooglus, it's fairly self-explanatory from the usage section of the man page06:11
crimsundooglus, it's definitely documented in the man page06:11
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nicholaspaulhondje: do i have to make a file system too?06:11
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nickrudFR500, then, I'd look a bit deeper, if it was my machine06:11
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doogluscrimsun: is it?  I didn't see it mentioned anywhere other than in the USAGE section06:11
hondjenicholaspaul: mkfs is make filesystem06:11
dooglussorry - the SYNOPSIS section06:11
nicholaspaulhondje: oh...duh.. thanks :)06:12
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crimsundooglus, submit a bug with a patch against the man page06:12
hondje:) mkfs.ext3 makes ext3, etc, lots of short cuts to save on the switches06:12
FR500dooglus: nothing06:12
doogluscrimsun: what does it do?06:12
FR500well, anyway i'm wiping this disc clean for breezy06:12
FR500thanks ppl06:12
crimsundooglus, I explained above06:12
nicholaspaulhondje: yea i was a little scared that there was no yes/no option - all of a sudden its formatted! LOL06:13
doogluscrimsun: I didn't see it.  I saw you tell me it was self explanitory, but I didn't see the explanation06:13
alzabarok06:13
alzabarI took all my cards out06:13
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alzabarnow everything is working06:13
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hondjenicholaspaul: hehe, it's quite efficient :)06:13
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hondjenicholaspaul: make sure to use fdisk to make your partitions before you mount it, even if it's just one partition :)06:14
dooglusooh - i see.  "it means show TCP connections".  sorry - I missed that.06:14
nicholaspaulhondje: so how about makgin a partition table? fdisk says my new drive doesnt have one.06:14
alzabargrr stupid pc06:14
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_Jes_alzabar: congratulations. have fun and listen to good music. ;-)06:14
nicholaspaulhondje: you read my mind!06:15
grndslmwho should I talk to about asking for a feature in Gnome?06:15
alzabaryeah nothing works unless its just onboard06:15
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spindleyyou should fdisk, then mkfs, then mount06:15
grndslmmore specifically...how do you search for a certain room in IRC??06:15
B_166-ER-Xwhat is the command to open a .rar by terminal ?   even if i have unrar nonfree install, file roller dont want to open an archive06:15
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Dr_Willisunrar e (or x)06:16
spindleyB_166-ER-X, unrar x06:16
B_166-ER-Xok06:16
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B_166-ER-Xit says 'cannot create' 'every file name in the .rar'06:16
_Jes_B_166-ER-X: man unrar06:16
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esachow do i copy from vim/gvim into another program06:17
_Jes_B_166-ER-X: unrar e <file> , if I recall right06:17
nicholaspaulspindley: i mkfs then fdisk then mount.. does that matter?06:17
irggrndslm: you could try in the #ubuntu-love or #ubuntu-desktop channels06:17
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spindleynicholaspaul, i would fdisk the drive, create my partitions, then mkfs.ext3 (or whatever) /dev/hdX1, etc06:18
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spindleyyou can't mkfs if there's no partition to make a filesystem on..06:18
nicholaspauloh i shee...06:18
nicholaspauli have no idea!! :) thanks mate06:18
spindleynp06:18
grndslmirg: gracias06:19
nicholaspaulcrap... mkfs is fast, spindley06:19
spindleyext2/3 yeah it's fairly quick06:19
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spindleyreiserfs is even faster, but reiser is crap (imo)06:20
fjsWhat file do I edit to enable KDE to offer shutdown/reboot on the logoff menu?06:20
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j-linuxIs there a program that comes with Ubuntu that you can use to make icons (e.g., favicon.ico for web site)?06:21
B_166-ER-Xwhat the equivalent of fileroller for KDE ??06:21
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remyforb1s777what is 128MB in kb06:22
nicholaspaul128 x 102406:22
crimsun128 1024 *n06:22
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nicholaspaul13107206:23
AngryParsley131072kb06:23
nicholaspaul:)06:23
AngryParsleydamn, beaten06:23
nicholaspaulhehe only just...06:23
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remyforb1s777got it06:23
remyforb1s777thanks06:23
AngryParsleyif only I hadn't typed KB06:23
nicholaspaulLOL06:23
hondjej-linux: gimp06:23
sergiohola06:23
sergiohi06:24
hondjebuenas noches06:24
j-linuxhondje:  how do I do it with GIMP?  Just a 32x32 image saved with an .ico extension?06:24
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FroG] french[hi guys06:24
FroG] french[i need a hand ...06:24
hondjej-linux: I'd save it as a gif, since IE cries a lot, and rename it .ico06:24
FroG] french[anybody is connected ?06:24
sergioby06:24
Dr_Willishmm?06:24
FroG] french[oki ...06:24
FroG] french[u know adobe acrobat under windows ????06:25
Dr_Willisthere 454 people connected here. :P more or less.06:25
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FroG] french[is anything like this on gnome ?06:25
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j-linuxhondje: ok, thanks... actually, I think it's supposed to be 16x16, no?06:25
sportmanhey06:25
sportmanim trying to back up my files06:25
sportmanum i have a crossover cable06:25
hondjej-linux: I don't remember :)06:25
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sportmanthat is 100mb/s connection and 1 nic card on each computer that is 100mb/s06:26
sportmanshouldnt i get like 4 mbs06:26
remyforb1s777will having incorrect fonts loaded mess up starting x06:26
sportman4 each second06:26
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sportmanim getting 100kb/s06:26
sportman:(06:26
procrastinationntaco bell was good06:26
j-linuxhondje: I just found a tutorial -- says 16x16, and also a 32x32 for the favorites...06:26
calcprocrastinationn: 50 years ago? :)06:27
j-linuxhondje: thanks.06:27
spindleyFroG] french[, 'sudo apt-get install acroread'06:27
procrastinationnwho was helpin me install codecs06:27
remyforb1s777im going to copy my xorg config file from knoppix to ubuntu 64 tomorrow06:27
calctaco bell's hottest hot sauce is barely warm :\06:27
FroG] french[spindley, it's juste a pdf reader acroread no ???06:27
remyforb1s777see if that fixes th e dang problem06:27
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spindleywell, it's acrobat for linux yeah06:27
FroG] french[sportman, 100mbits/s ... it's not 100 mo /s !!!!!06:27
spindleyyou want distiller or something?06:27
sportmanyea06:27
sportmani know06:27
FroG] french[you have to divide 100 mb by 8 !!!06:28
sportmanyea06:28
_Jes_FroG] french[: use "Add Aplications" and look for "Acrobat Reader"06:28
sportmanbut it still should be like 8-1/2mbs06:28
sportmani get like 150kb/s06:28
FroG] french[i don't want the reader one !!06:28
FroG] french[arf06:28
FroG] french[sportman,06:28
sportmani know its not going to go 100 megabites everysecond, id be happy with just one06:28
sportmanlol06:28
FroG] french[lol06:29
sportmann e ideas06:29
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sportmanits just a simple crossover either net cable06:29
_Jes_FroG] french[: my pdf-files are opened with "Evince 0.4.0"06:29
sportmantwo computers using static ip addresses06:29
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FroG] french[i don't want just to open pdf file06:29
FroG] french[i've xpdf to do it !06:29
sportman2 feet away from each other06:29
sportmanlol06:29
sportmanbut no it has to be stupid on me06:29
FroG] french[i want to be able to add page to the pdf file06:29
FroG] french[etC/06:29
FroG] french[remove pages06:30
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FroG] french[changes comment06:30
FroG] french[etc.06:30
Dr_Willisyou mean EDIT pdf files06:30
Dr_Willis:P06:30
FroG] french[like in adobe acrobat (not adobe acrobat READER)06:30
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_Jes_FroG] french[: Evince is just a reader06:30
FroG] french[how silly i am ... I know it's just a reader !!06:30
FroG] french[that's why i tell you it doesn't match my need06:31
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_Jes_FroG] french[: I think you need ghostscipt, but I'm really not into that stuff... anybody else?06:32
sportmanlol06:32
FroG] french[sportman, for you're speed problem, it may be caused by a firewall, if you have one !06:33
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nickrudsoliste, Dr_Willis you have some advice for editing pdf06:38
nickrud's06:38
fr33mindQuestion: where evolution put mail account list ??  I try to restore my evolution parameter from my user account backup.  I look in .evolution, .gnome2_private and .gconf/apps06:38
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Dr_Willisnope.. i can honestly say ive never edited one.06:38
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nickrud:)06:39
Dr_WillisNot sure if Openoffice can do it.06:39
alexcamilohello. Where is GCC in ubuntu?06:39
fr33mind( I mean the config file of the mail account list)06:39
_Jes_alexcamilo: try -> which gcc06:39
nickrudalexandros, in sudo apt-get install build-essential06:40
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Varangerwhen is Breezy going out ?06:40
alexcamilotrying06:40
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crimsunVaranger, has your sound been fixed yet?06:40
HermanDEOk...Slightly OT:  Anybody know of a good replacement for squrrelmail?06:40
Varangercrimsun: I don't know :(06:40
j-linuxwhen I first installed Ubuntu, the bootup was fast.  I added two more network devices in my settings (task bar) and now it takes a very long time to boot.  It hangs a while on "configureing network settings" or "network devices" or something similar.06:41
protok0lHermanDE, ssh and mutt06:41
Varangercrimsun: I sent a post to bugtrack and tiwai answered me06:41
alexcamilothankyou!06:41
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j-linuxEverything works, but it's a slow boot.06:41
alexcamilonow i can learn c!06:41
VarangerI installed a brand new Debian ... and sound was working wonderfully06:41
HermanDEprotok0l: I like that too...  But too many people are afraid of that little blinky thing on the black screen...06:41
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Varangercrimsun: I am waiting to Breezy to return to Ubuntu06:41
nickrudalexandros, I remember that time, enjoy :)06:41
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alexcamilosockets are gonna be fun (i hope). i've always had a fondness for network programming in realbasic.06:42
_Jes_time to go06:43
_Jes_bye06:43
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flankk'can u change my computer back to windows xp i dont like the way it is'06:44
flankk'What's missing?'06:44
flankk'i just dont like it i like windows xp'06:44
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fr33mindQuestion: where evolution put configuration file for mail account list ??  I try to restore my evolution parameter from my user account backup.  I look in .evolution, .gnome2_private and .gconf/apps06:45
flankkTried convincing this person that they can have alternatives for all the applications they used in XP, 'no i just dont like the whole set up with the way it is now'06:45
flankkUgh.. what can you do.06:45
Varangercrimsun: bye06:45
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Sonny_Wertzikdoes anyone know where to get GTK themes besides gnome look?06:45
nickrud!themes06:45
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, themes is at http://art.ubuntu.com -  http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/ - http://www.guistyles.com06:46
ErronHi I installed ubuntu , and it asked to specify a user so I made one, but what is the default root pass because I dont remember setting any06:46
Sonny_Wertzikhehehehe06:46
dooglus!root06:46
ubotuit has been said that root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo06:46
breakthestatejust use sudo06:46
HermanDEflankk: People forget the learning process..  And usually forget that once you learn how to drive a VW, everything else becomes easy...06:46
nickrudah, ubotu is till there06:46
breakthestateand sudo -s for a sudo shell06:46
Sonny_Wertzikthx06:46
flankkHermanDE, I don't get it.. they are not a 'power-user', and only use a couple applications, like IM and a soudn player.. I told them the interface can be changed to however they like..06:47
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Amaranthanyone using firefox 1.5 beta 1 should check out http://developer.mozilla.org/samples/raycaster/RayCaster.html06:48
Amaranthit's awesome06:48
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nickrudI'll byte, what06:49
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nickrudis the canvas tag?06:49
weiorhwei give up06:50
Amaranthit's a 2D drawing API that apple made for safari and is apart of the WHATWG spec06:50
oxezhm, it seems I have to reboot my machine to make Xorg recognize my changes in xorg.conf file. I tried /etc/init.d/gdm stop (and xorg-common), but changes don't apply until I reboot.. ideas?06:51
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caustictwinthanks guys for making a linux distro that is so easy to use06:51
caustictwin(that goes to all involved)06:51
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GTswaggercrimsun -- you still around?06:52
weiorhwethank debian06:52
weiorhwe#debian06:52
caustictwinok06:52
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caustictwinthey're next06:52
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weiorhwe:)06:52
flankkweiorhwe, you can thank by donation, or by developing, if you're poor :D06:53
caustictwinin breezy badger, where do you have to go to get w32codecs?06:53
dukenubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net is down?06:53
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moj0risingDoes anyone know where I can find a list of organizations that have implemented samba?06:53
weiorhwecaustictwin, you need multiverse in your sources.list06:53
moj0risingSorry for being a little ff topic.06:53
bob2moj0rising: try #samba06:53
moj0risingI am trying to get my organization to switch to it..06:54
moj0risingthey did not have one.06:54
moj0risingtried.06:54
dukenFailed to fetch http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/06:54
nnonixanyone here have amarok running correctly under gnome in breezy?06:54
Ninjewmoj0rising: Switch to samba for Windows Domain Control, or just for file serving?06:54
dukenhttp://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net is down?06:54
moj0risingfile serving.06:54
Erronany ubuntu devs here?06:54
moj0risingdon't think it can be a PDC yet, right??06:54
Ninjewmoj0rising: It can, but not for Active Directory06:55
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caustictwinmoj0rising: to which repository do I add multiverse?06:55
bob2duken: so don't use it06:55
bob2Erron: best to just ask your question06:55
moj0risingah. They are actually doing an AD install now :(06:55
nickrudcaustictwin, http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html, look at the codec part, and get what you need.06:55
weiorhwe deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse06:55
bob2moj0rising: www.samba.org, yes it can06:55
weiorhweis the line you need06:55
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Amaranthcaustictwin: the package is no longer available due to legal reasons06:55
caustictwin?06:55
moj0risingActually, I think I remember reading that now, that you mention it.06:55
caustictwinlame...06:55
Erronjust wanted to say I recieved ubuntu today a whole pack of it and gave it out at school to everyone loved it.06:55
Ninjewmoj0rising: Samba can be an AD client06:55
Amaranthcaustictwin: copyright is lame?06:56
caustictwinyes06:56
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Amaranthwithout copyright even the GPL is worthless06:56
caustictwinnot what the framers of the constitution had in mind06:56
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nickrudcaustictwin, look for06:56
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bob2caustictwin: yes it is06:56
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weiorhwepatents are lame at least06:56
moj0risingyeah. That's what I woul like to propose -- file servers in AD, Ninjew.06:56
Amaranththe framers of the constitution supported you ripping off windows DLLs without permission?06:56
nickrud'patent06:56
nickruddamn06:56
bob2caustictwin: w32codecs is random dlls from various companies06:56
weiorhweyes they did06:57
nickrudpatents in the constitution, it's there06:57
Ninjewmoj0rising: My College does that06:57
caustictwinbob2: i am aware06:57
moj0risingwhat college?06:57
moj0risingI can mention them.06:57
nickrudI'm not particulary partial to the current interpretation, but the concept is sound.06:57
Ninjewmoj0rising: Kenyon college, but any company that has linux fileserving will use samba if they have win32 clients, its practially a given06:57
weiorhwethe patent system is worthless06:58
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deepwoodzhey guys im having trouble installing programs cuz i dont have a gcc compiler and im runnin this distro06:58
moj0risingyeah, but I'm looking for a mass installation..06:58
dooglusI think I just found a bug in sudo06:58
weiorhweunless you are a corporation06:58
Amaranthdooglus: oh?06:58
weiorhweand your not06:58
moj0risingwhere samba serves 1000+ clients06:58
dooglusis there some way of reporting 'sensitive' bugs so that they end up in the 'right hands'?06:58
Quequegnickrud, where is patent in the constitution?06:58
bob2deepwoodz: what are you trying to compile?06:58
moj0risingwindows clients, that is.06:58
Amaranthweiorhwe: the patent system isn't broken, it just has problems06:58
bob2dooglus: where sensitive = security?06:58
dooglusbob2: yes06:59
weiorhweit's broken06:59
bob2dooglus: you can mark the bug as visible to only canonical staff, which is fairly private06:59
fr33mind<dooglus> I think I just found a bug in sudo <-- yes for me, sudo gives me root privileges!!!! ;)06:59
dooglusbob2: ok.06:59
moj0risingIt'd be awesome if we had linux clients but this is one step closer to that if it were to happen.06:59
bob2dooglus: I'd email the security team too, tho06:59
caustictwindeepwoodz: did you install build-essential from apt-get?06:59
deepwoodzwell actually i didnt install anything my brother did07:00
Ninjewmoj0rising: Well, kenyon doesn't have THAT many simultaneous clients, but we have been using samba in various version for years with no problems... are you trying to move from windows servers to linux or from some other linux solution to samba?07:00
deepwoodzso where would that be?07:00
dooglusbob2: ok thanks.  i guess the first thing to do is search bugzilla and see if it's already famous :)07:00
deepwoodzhe didnt know too much about linux07:00
deepwoodzi know a lil more but i didn install the distro07:00
bob2dooglus: heh07:00
moj0risingNinjew: We actually use Netware now...07:00
Ninjewmoj0rising: ohohoh07:00
bob2deepwoodz: there's little need to compile things in ubuntu, most htings are available pre-build07:00
caustictwinwell, there is a gcc compiler contained in build-essential07:00
bob2er, pre-built07:00
caustictwintype apt-get install build-essential in a terminal07:01
moj0risingwe have a domain currently being migrated from NT4 to w2k3 w/ AD...07:01
deepwoodzok thanx07:01
Ninjewmoj0rising: I always forget about netware :)07:01
moj0risingthey are seriously considering moving the fileservers to MS.07:01
Ninjewmoj0rising: Try posting to the samba mailing lists, you may get more responses than the irc channel07:01
nnonixnetwho?07:01
Amaranthnetware *shudder*07:01
bob2caustictwin: is your nick fro the afx pseudonym?07:01
deepwoodzthanx imma try that07:01
moj0risinghaha ,many people do, Ninjew07:01
Amaranthmy college runs netware, it scares me07:01
moj0risingNinjew: good idea.07:01
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caustictwinbob2: a conglomeration of Caustic Window and Aphex Twin yes07:02
moj0risingI'll do that for sure. I might get a lot of replies too.07:02
caustictwina friend of mine and I made music under the name07:02
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bob2hah07:02
weiorhwei need a hangover cure07:02
bob2weiorhwe: water + sleep + bacon07:02
Amaranthoops, bed time07:02
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caustictwinthat was a long long time though07:02
weiorhwebacon!07:02
weiorhwesounds good.. will do.07:02
nnonixweiorhwe: more booze07:03
nickrudQuequeg, it's not?! I've kinda live'd my life as if it was07:03
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weiorhwei drank it all07:03
bob2weiorhwe: powerade/gatorade seem to help rehydration, too07:03
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moj0risingI have another question: does anyone know a simple way to install nvidia drivers on breezy?07:03
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weiorhwemodprobe nvidia07:03
weiorhweworks for me07:03
bob2moj0rising: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto07:03
Ninjewmoj0rising: apt-get install nvidia-glx07:03
Quequegnickrud:  http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html.  ;)07:03
moj0risingI guess my card is not supported by the standard methods.07:03
Ninjewmoj0rising: what card?07:04
moj0risingI tried that, one...07:04
weiorhweyou need to edit xorg.conf07:04
moj0risingmx200.07:04
nnonixanyone here have amarok running correctly under gnome in breezy? --- anyone, anyone??07:04
bob2moj0rising: yay for nvidia07:04
bob2moj0rising: old geforces aren't supported anymote07:04
moj0risinghaha.07:04
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moj0risingreally?07:04
nickrudI'd already searched another site; I will have to think again, no thanks to you :)07:04
Ninjewmoj0rising: There is a legacy package I believe07:04
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bob2moj0rising: you need the -legacy package07:05
moj0risingThere weres ome instructions posted to ubuntuforums...07:05
Ninjewmoj0rising: check nvidia's site for the linux driver release notes to see actual support07:05
moj0rising..but they weren't working for me.07:05
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tzapachuauhello07:05
boneecan i still get w32codecs with apt-get07:05
nickrudgod, I hate when I have to think.07:05
bob2bonee: no, it was never in ubuntu07:05
tzapachuauci tried installing xmms07:05
moj0risingbob2: is there a legacy package in apt repositories?07:05
tzapachuaubut i got too may dependencides eoor07:05
tzapachuauerror07:06
boneeits was when i add the extra repositories on ubuntuguide07:06
boneethat was back then07:06
tzapachuau xmms: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.5-1) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14 is to be installed07:06
tzapachuau        Depends: libglib1.2 (>= 1.2.0) but it is not going to be installed07:06
tzapachuau        Depends: libgtk1.2 (>= 1.2.10-4) but it is not going to be installed07:06
bob2moj0rising: yeah, linux-restricted-modules-something-legacy07:06
tzapachuauand when i try to install the dependencies07:06
bob2tzapachuau: please don't paste things in here07:06
weiorhwetzapachuau, apt-get -f install07:06
moj0risingI know you can't use the most current drivers.07:06
bob2tzapachuau: also, xmms is in ubuntu07:06
MadpilotPPCbonee, it's not strictly speaking in the Ubuntu repos, but see RestrictedFormats on the wiki for a fix07:06
bob2tzapachuau: don't try to use Debian .debs on ubuntu07:06
tzapachuauok07:06
MadpilotPPC!tell bonee about restricted07:06
boneecan i get the site07:06
moj0risingahha! I'll check that, bob2. Thanks!07:06
tzapachuauwhat ablut the libc607:07
tzapachuau*about07:07
tzapachuauwhen i try to install it07:07
tzapachuaui'm getting dependencied error for other files07:07
bob2tzapachuau: that's because you went and downloaded a .deb from some random other site07:07
tzapachuauand then it goes on like this07:07
bob2tzapachuau: why don't you tell us where you got it from?07:07
deepwoodzok when i tried to get the build essentials here wut it said07:07
deepwoodz  apt-get install build-essential07:07
deepwoodzE: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)07:07
deepwoodzE: Unable to lock the list directory07:07
tzapachuauxmms.org07:07
bob2tzapachuau: so, don't do that07:07
tzapachuauhttp://packages.debian.org/unstable/sound/xmms.html07:07
tzapachuauok07:08
bob2tzapachuau: it's in ubuntu, just install it withsynaptic07:08
weiorhwetry typing xmms07:08
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bob2tzapachuau: rich, which is totally wrong.  packages from debian will not work on ubuntu07:08
bob2deepwoodz: don't paste in here07:08
tzapachuauxmms: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory07:08
deepwoodzo sorry07:08
MadpilotPPC!paste07:08
bob2deepwoodz: also, that error explains the problem; run apt-get with sudo07:08
uboturumour has it, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text07:08
deepwoodzthat wut it said tho, when i did wut he told me to do07:08
bob2deepwoodz: and please use english in here, not AIMish07:08
deepwoodzok07:08
deepwoodzlol @ aimish07:08
bob2tzapachuau: you installed it wrong07:08
tzapachuauokay07:08
bob2yes, that's an example of what I mean07:08
bob2tzapachuau: install the ubuntu package07:09
MadpilotPPCI thought it was AIMglish? ;)07:09
bob2tzapachuau: sudo apt-get install xmms07:09
tzapachuaui'll try to do it with apt-get07:09
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tzapachuaupasting the output07:10
tzapachuauin pastebin07:10
nnonixexit07:10
bob2thank you07:10
tzapachuauhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/262707:10
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McScrufflo07:10
tzapachuaushould i remove again07:10
bob2tzapachuau: sudo dpkg -P xmms ; sudo apt-get install xmms07:11
BergcubeGood morning, Ubuntuers. Is there som (relatively) straight-forward way to get synaptic to restore / regenerate the original / default sources list? Yeah, I know I can edit it manually, and will if I have to. I simply wonder if there isn't an easier way for the lazy among us.07:11
bob2tzapachuau: yes, it has to be removed first07:11
NsOmNiAccan anyone help me with sharing printers under Ubuntu.. I have them installed locally but wanting to share them to other users inside the network07:11
tzapachuauok07:11
bob2Bergcube: apt-setup07:11
bob2Bergcube: backing up config files before modifying them is a good habit to get into, tho07:11
tzapachuauso it basically means that when we install with apy-get07:11
McScruffi want to blacklist my pda, how do i do this :S07:11
tzapachuauthen it will install all the libraries too07:11
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bob2tzapachuau: yes07:11
bob2McScruff: how do you mean?07:12
bob2the module?07:12
Bergcubebob2~ Thank you. And, yes I agree. When I added respositories I didn't imagine I would wish to remove them. Still, it was kinda lame. Will apt-setup do /only/ that?07:12
flux_How do i install UBUNTU?07:12
tzapachuauis there any site from where i can see all the softwares which i can install with apt-get07:12
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flux_Sorru..07:12
bob2flux_: download cd. burn it. boot it.07:12
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flux_How do i install WINE07:12
bob2Bergcube: it will regenerate the default.07:12
bob2Bergcube: I tend to just add things at the bottom so it's easy to see what's new07:13
McScruffbob2: i want to use it in vmware, but ubuntu takes control, i want to stop this07:13
bob2tzapachuau: it's 15 000 or so packages07:13
tzapachuaui wanted to install http://www.videolan.org/vlc/index.html too07:13
McScruffbob2: its a usb device07:13
crimsuntzapachuau, vlc, too, is in universe07:13
weiorhwetzapachuau, apt-get install vlc07:13
tzapachuauso basically i'll just try asp-get install <the packedge name>07:13
weiorhweit's all their mang07:13
Bergcubebob2~ When it regenerates the default, does it just touch the sources file. Or will it also disappear installed packages from un-default locations?07:13
tzapachuauand see if its there07:14
weiorhwedont07:14
weiorhweforget sudo before apt-get07:14
bob2Bergcube: no tool would do something as dangerous as that07:14
weiorhweapt-cache search whatever07:14
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tzapachuauok07:14
weiorhwefor searching07:14
bob2tzapachuau: apt-cache search whatever07:14
fr33mindQuestion: where evolution put configuration file for mail account list ??  I try to restore my evolution parameter from my user account backup.  I look in .evolution, .gnome2_private and .gconf/apps07:14
Bergcubebob2~ Then you have given me all the help I need for now!  Brilliant, thanks a lot!07:14
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weiorhwehave you tried ~/Mail ?07:15
BigbeaverAnyone fermilar with DRU stuff for X? I'm running GLXINFO in verbose mode and get the following error.  dlopen /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/r128_dri.so failed.  So it can't seem to find this file. Any idea how I can get it?07:15
BigbeaverDRU=DRI07:15
tzapachuaudoesnt xmms support mp3?07:15
McScruffit does07:15
tzapachuauany good mp3 player around07:15
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McScruffi like amarok07:15
weiorhwetzapachuau, you need the universe repositories07:15
weiorhweamarok is excellent..07:15
tzapachuauokay07:16
bob2Bergcube: perhaps I misinterpreted you; it will remove them from the available package list, so if you remove a package from a non-default source, apt won't be able to reinstall it07:16
bob2tzapachuau: yes, xmms does07:16
flux_Where can i start Wine?07:16
weiorhweBigbeaver, you need to install the ATI xorg package07:16
robert1123is there a way to see what programs are available in diffrent repositories07:16
weiorhwexserver-xorg*07:17
tzapachuaui tried to play mp3 with my xmms and then now it hangs07:17
tzapachuaulol07:17
bob2robert1123: yes07:17
bob2robert1123: but why? each ubuntu repository has > 1000 packages07:17
bob2robert1123: universe has > 10 00007:17
Bergcubebob2~ Yes, of course.  That is given.  But the already installed non-default thingamajong (for example the win32 codecs) won't be thrown out without me actively wanting to do so.  I take it?07:17
bob2tzapachuau: you need to configure it to use esound for output07:17
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tzapachuauok07:17
flux_Where do i find Repesitories?07:17
weiorhwetzapachuau, look in preferences -> Output07:17
MadpilotPPC!tell flux_ about repositories07:17
bob2Bergcube: right07:17
tzapachuauit hangs now07:18
tzapachuaushould i just kill -9 it07:18
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weiorhweyes07:18
bob2no07:18
robert1123bob2: well I am installing webmin but it is not the updated one and I want to get the updated one07:18
weiorhweit's frozen07:18
bob2robert1123: ouch07:18
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robert1123flux: /etc/apt/sources.list07:18
Bergcubebob2~ Then you understood me right; I understood you right as well.  And I am happy!07:19
robert1123bob2: yea07:19
bob2Bergcube: heh07:19
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weiorhwei love s0ciopath07:19
McScruffi cant find a  tutorial of how to add this usb device to my blacklist07:19
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NinjewDoes anyone know any better id3 taggers than easytag?07:20
robert1123does any one know the repository for webmin07:21
crimsunsomething that uses taglib, Ninjew07:21
weiorhweis it OSS?07:21
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weiorhwerobert1123, chances are it's in universe07:21
bob2weiorhwe: robert1123 misphrased hsi question; he wants a more recent version than is in ubuntu07:22
weiorhweoh07:22
robert1123weiorhwe: yes a more recent version.07:22
weiorhwedunno then07:22
robert1123thanks though07:22
dingn07:22
weiorhwe;)07:23
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weiorhwesweet dreams07:23
bob2robert1123: just get the tarball, I guess07:23
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bob2any plan involving webmin is kinda doomed, anyway07:23
robert1123bob2: why do u think that07:24
weiorhwe"A web-based interface for system administration for Unix. Setup user accounts,07:24
weiorhweDNS, file sharing and the program is freeware."07:24
weiorhwewhat do you need that for?07:24
weiorhwethere used to be something on redhat like that07:24
bob2linuxconf07:24
bob2robert1123: I don't trust it to edit config files07:25
weiorhwemaybe that'd work, robert112307:25
robert1123oh07:25
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robert1123weiorhwe: linuxconf?07:25
weiorhweyeah07:25
bob2noooooooooo07:25
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robert1123bob2?07:25
weiorhwelol07:25
robert1123bob2: no?07:26
weiorhwei guess not07:26
robert1123yea i guess07:26
bob2linuxconf has an even worse reputation than webmin07:26
weiorhwenever found much use for it, personally07:27
robert1123bob2: is there something that you would recommend?07:27
bob2I'd recommend just editing the files yourself07:27
bob2failing that, webmin, I guess07:27
Dr_Willislinuxconf - gee - aint herd about that in ages..07:27
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Ninjewgod linuxconf07:28
Ninjewits so bad07:28
Dr_Willisi 'hear' people rant about webmin.. but havent really seen any real issues myself withit.. or any web sites actually discuss the program.07:28
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NinjewThere is no substitute to configuring things yourself, imho07:28
Dr_Willisi use it on my single user box at times.07:28
robert1123bob2: well edited the files myself is the ideal but I dont have the time to learn all the time07:28
Dr_Willisor my little home lan.07:28
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robert1123I need something quick sometimes07:29
weiorhweconfiguring your system is quick once you have done it a few hundred times07:29
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heatxsinkweiorhwe:  yes07:29
weiorhwe:D07:29
weiorhwei just installed ubuntu today in fact07:29
robert1123lol! that's the point I dont have time for a few hundred times at the moment07:29
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heatxsinkweiorhwe:  good good...07:30
heatxsinkweiorhwe:  come to this side, it's much nicer07:30
weiorhwewell, i've installed it a bunch of times07:30
weiorhwelol07:30
heatxsinkare there any ubuntu user groups in the bay area?07:30
B_166-ER-Xit took like a month before my ubuntu was 'just right' then i installed breezy and all crashed...had to reinstall ;)07:30
weiorhwei switch around07:30
heatxsinkhehe07:30
heatxsinkthat's what happened to me too07:30
heatxsinkhoary..ooh nice, ahh everything configured....then ooh breezy....bAAAM07:30
heatxsinkeverything gone07:31
B_166-ER-Xhe..07:31
heatxsinkbut I did switch machines07:31
BigbeaverAnyone fermilar with DRI stuff for X? I'm running GLXINFO in verbose mode and get the following error.  dlopen /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/r128_dri.so failed.  Can't seem to find the file but if I do a locate I find the r128_dri.so in /usr/lib/dri/r128_dri.so. Not sure if this is that r128 that is supposed to be with X.  I have xserver-xorg-driver-ati installed.07:31
heatxsinkso in theory i bet everything would've been just fine07:31
weiorhweyeah.. i won't be switching to breezy on the family machine until it's been out for a few months07:31
B_166-ER-Xman... 'evrything gone?'     at the login screen i had a message saying that my /home didnt exist07:31
weiorhwesame thing happened to me07:31
heatxsinkBigbeaver:  shouldn't that be fglrx instead of ATI?07:31
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heatxsinkweiorhwe:  i found that LIRC, and some madwifi drivers don't work07:32
heatxsinkcause the kernel is 2.6.1207:32
weiorhwewifi seems to be a big pain07:32
weiorhwenot sure i'll be switching07:32
heatxsinkweiorhwe:  it's not that bad if you do your homework07:32
heatxsinkhehe07:32
weiorhweone day maybe07:33
heatxsinkoh man I wouldn't have it anyother way07:33
heatxsinkhehe07:33
B_166-ER-Xat least, wait until your system is perfectly tweaked before trying to install something new that might scramble things totally up07:33
weiorhwei still haven't gone to 100mbps ethernet07:33
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weiorhweget yourself a hard drive imager07:34
weiorhwethen you can mess things up all you want07:34
B_166-ER-Xthat reminds me, i have to file a bug repport07:35
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weiorhweof course it runs netbsd!07:36
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flux_MadPilotPPC, how do i install WINE?07:37
weiorhweapt-get install wine07:38
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flux_thats all?07:38
weiorhwesudo apt-get install wine07:38
MadpilotPPCflux_, never done it myself - it is in the repos, though, like weiorhwe said...07:38
weiorhweinstall the suggested packages as well07:38
flux_MadpilotPPC07:38
flux_Sorry07:38
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flux_root@xp1700:/home/flux# apt-get install wine07:39
flux_Reading package lists... Done07:39
flux_Building dependency tree... Done07:39
flux_wine is already the newest version.07:39
flux_0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 8 not upgraded.07:39
bob2flux_: do not paste in here07:39
flux_ok..07:39
bob2flux_: and you already have wine, so just run it now07:39
Dr_Willisand this tells us? :P07:39
flux_Where do i run it?07:39
tristanmikeWhat is the command to see my partitions please?07:39
bob2flux_: wine program.exe07:39
Dr_Willis'use the shell luke'07:40
bob2tristanmike: there isn't one07:40
weiorhwewhy are you root07:40
bob2tristanmike: aside from looking through dmsg07:40
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bob2tristanmike: or fdisk -l /dev/hdwhatever07:40
weiorhwedon't run wine as root, it'll crash07:40
Dr_Willis'fdisk -l' should show the drives on the system07:40
flux_where do i find WIne?07:40
tristanmikebob2, oh, really, wow, thanx07:40
Dr_Willisflux_,  open up a shell, type 'wine'07:40
bob2flux_: 15:39:57           bob2 | flux_: wine program.exe07:40
bob2flux_: that's hwo you run it frome a terminal07:40
vikgot a strange sound-card problem: it plays at half speed. It's a VIA686 onboard chip (ac97 codec). I'm using alsa07:40
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bob2tristanmike: actually, I'm wrong, sorry; what Dr_Willis said07:41
flux_bob2, bash: wine-program.exe: command not found07:42
tristanmikebob2, Dr_Willis, thanx07:42
bob2flux_: that's not what I said07:42
flux_oh..07:42
flux_Sorry... Im norwegian... NOt so good in english...07:42
JhonnyHi, plz, how can i reinstall windows xp in dual boot (sorry i need windows for using Flash 7), without loosing my ubuntu instalation?07:43
tristanmikeDr_Willis, when I "fdisk -l" nothing happens, I just go back to the command prompt07:43
weiorhwetristanmike, sudo07:43
MadpilotPPCcool to see that this is running now: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/07:43
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tristanmikeweiorhwe, thanx, shoulda known07:43
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flux_What is an shell?07:44
weiorhweprogram to type commands in07:44
MadpilotPPCflux_, a terminal07:44
flux_CAn i paste what i got?07:45
MadpilotPPC!tell flux_ about paste07:45
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grahamanyone here running ubuntu on a mac with dual-g5s07:46
cafuego_graham: Yes, nalioth.07:47
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paulproteus|laptgraham: 'Fraid I'm not.  Wimpy iBook G4. ;)07:47
cafuego_graham: he may not be awake, though.07:47
brainboxany tips on aterm cut/paste to mozilla?07:48
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grahamwell if there isn't any immediate : "Oh you dont want to do that" i think i'll have to give it a try07:48
weiorhwebrainbox, should work fine07:48
grahamworks great on my AMD07:48
brainboxweiorhwe: got problem pasting from aterm to mozilla..07:48
brainboxweiorhwe: same like xterm.07:48
cafuego_graham: Go with breezy (2.6.12 kernel) and it should be fine.07:48
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weiorhweusing the default install?07:49
brainboxweiorhwe: yup.07:49
cafuego_And the ppc64 kernel (I believe the boot option is power4-smp)07:49
grahamcafuego_: Thanks07:49
brainboxweiorhwe: can you share ur .Xdefaults?07:49
weiorhwebrainbox, i suppose.. what for?07:49
flux_I still not understand how to start wine..07:50
flux_mhm07:50
flux_hmm07:50
weiorhwebrainbox, try it via the menus too07:50
weiorhweright click, etc07:50
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weiorhweflux_, it needs to be configured first07:50
brainboxweiorhwe: are you using aterm?07:50
weiorhweno07:50
weiorhweflux_, apt-get install winesetuptk07:50
Dr_Willisi normally start wine with a command like.....07:50
flux_Where do i find a shell?07:50
snausageshi all, how can i install cursor themes?07:50
Dr_Williswine /path/to/windows/dir/sol.exe07:50
brainboxweiorhwe: what terminal are you using?07:50
weiorhwerxvt07:50
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brainboxyou don't have problem copy/paste from rxvt to others apps?07:51
weiorhweno problem07:51
weiorhwei don't have that problem on another computer using Konsole07:51
mpoolhi, any ideas on how to make Breezy disable ipv6 AAAA lookups?07:51
weiorhweand another using xterm07:51
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brainboxdamn.. can't figure this out. i found that xterm has this kind of problem http://www.davidsimmons.com/soft/xtermhacks/07:52
Oetzimpool: why do you want to disable?07:52
weiorhwempool, what do you mean?07:52
mpoolbecause my nameserver ignores the queries, so DNS is very slow07:52
flux_CAn someone please help me? I are going to have a LAN, and i need to have a teamspeak, FlightSimulator server!07:53
cafuego_mpool: firefox?07:53
mpoolweiorhwe: i mean that Breezy's dns resolver sends AAAA queries for IPv6 addresses, but most servers don't respond07:53
mpoolcafuego_: i know about the firefox setting, but it's affecting other things too07:53
mpoolsuch as apt and ssh07:53
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mpooland since 99.9% of users don't need ipv6 it seems like a bad default07:54
MadpilotPPCflux_, if you're still looking for a shell, Application menu --> System Tools --> Terminal07:54
weiorhwehmm, dunno07:54
bob2mpool: there's a number of bugs open about it; preventing the ipv6 module from loading was the "best" solution, iirc07:54
mpoolhi bob207:54
weiorhweset it caching only or something07:54
caustictwinI installed mplayer-386 and got the dlls from the mplayer website however I do not know where to install the codecs to07:54
cafuego_mpool: Odd though, mine just defaults to ipv4 and is as fast as when ipv6 isn't loaded.07:54
mpoolbob2: actually i don't have the module loaded and it's still doing the queries07:55
mpoolnone of my interfaces have ipv6 addresses07:55
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flux_weiorhwe, what should i do now?07:55
mpoolcafuego_: well, maybe your nameserver handles them OK?07:55
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mpoolcafuego_: does tcpdump show it sending AAAA queries?07:55
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weiorhweflux_, you want to run a flightsimulator server?07:56
flux_Yes, and teamspeak;)07:56
cafuego_mpool: Hold on07:56
JhonnyHi, plz, how can i reinstall windows xp in dual boot (sorry i need windows for using Flash 7), without loosing my ubuntu instalation?07:56
flux_I need to go in a minute07:56
weiorhwei think you would have to refer to the teamspeak website07:57
flux_yes..07:57
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mpoolJhonny: use resize2fs to shrink your linux partition to make space (google for it)07:57
mpoolthen make a new partition for xp and install into that07:57
flux_but to use ATC Radar Screnn i have to use wine.07:57
weiorhweok, well.. it's not in the repositories07:57
cafuego_mpool: Nope.07:57
weiorhweflux_, winesetuptk07:57
weiorhwethat work for you?07:57
mpoolcafuego_: and you didn't change anything from the defaults?07:58
mpoolwierd07:58
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flux_Shall i write that in terminal?07:58
weiorhweflux_, wine will not run most games07:58
paulproteus|laptcafuego_: It's a matter of broken DNS servers or not.07:58
OetziJhonny: or use an virtual Machine solution07:58
cafuego_mpool: No, I get an A+ and then a CNAME.07:58
KumakunHahaha! I'm connected through Ubuntu!07:58
paulproteus|laptcafuego_: Broken DNS servers make it slow for users.07:58
paulproteus|laptKumakun: Congrats. :)07:58
weiorhweflux_, yes07:58
flux_no, but ATC Radar Screen i think goo07:58
KumakunI'm having a little trouble with the backports...07:58
flux_flux@xp1700:~$ winesetuptk07:58
flux_bash: winesetuptk: command not found07:58
weiorhweflux_, sudo apt-get install winesetuptk07:59
cafuego_paulproteus|lapt: Huzzah, my dns server isn't broken!07:59
weiorhwetype that07:59
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JhonnyUsing Virtual machine slows down the flash, i work with flash professionally07:59
weiorhweflash should die07:59
paulproteus|laptcafuego_: Indeedy. :)08:00
flux_apt-get install winesetuptk08:00
Jhonnywhat about grub, how to recover it?08:00
Oetzi07:59 < Jhonny> Using Virtual machine slows down the flash, i work with flash professionally so you are a poor boy08:00
flux_winesetuptk is already the newest version.08:00
flux_0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 8 not upgraded.08:00
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weiorhwetry typing winesetuptk in the shell now flux_08:00
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flux_is shell Terminal?08:01
weiorhweyes08:01
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flux_bash: winesetuptk: command not found08:01
weiorhwelol08:01
cafuego_sudo winesetuptk08:01
weiorhwethank you08:02
mpoolcafuego_: that's strange that yours only sends A+08:02
mpooli just installed this08:02
weiorhweflux_, try that08:02
mpoolmaybe there are some updates that fix it08:02
cafuego_mpool: breezy, amd6408:02
cafuego_mpool: Note, the A+ is 'host' querying the dns server; not my dns server querying another dns server.08:02
paulproteus|laptcafuego_: The problem is that libc and host don't always do the same thing for DNS resolution.08:03
paulproteus|laptYou want to call gethostbyname() with some packet tracing.08:03
mpoolah08:03
mpoolright, 'host' is different from how other apps do it08:03
mpoolcan you try with say telnet?08:03
flux_Done08:03
flux_Where do i start WINE now?08:03
weiorhwein the shell, wine program.exe08:04
cafuego_Yep there we go, AAA -> A-> Response.08:04
flux_flux@xp1700:~$ wine program.exe08:05
flux_bash: wine: command not found08:05
mpoolah so it's not just me08:05
weiorhweprogram.exe is an example08:05
cafuego_.2 seconds08:05
weiorhweflux_, type which wine08:05
weiorhweflux_, WINE is not windows08:06
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coobrao/08:10
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ubuntu_k?08:11
coobra? :P08:11
ubuntu_khehe08:12
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ubuntu_kthis is my first time using IRC08:12
B_166-ER-Xvi why_use_windows..........document empty;08:12
ubuntu_kon first time istalled ubuntu08:12
B_166-ER-Xubuntu_k,  ok.. :)08:12
B_166-ER-Xhave any problem or ?08:12
ubuntu_kI need help08:13
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ubuntu_kI dont know how to install it with windows08:13
B_166-ER-X? what do you mean ??08:13
ubuntu_keh. ..08:13
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aftertafmorning all :)08:14
bur[n] eranyone familiar with using -r disk: options with rdesktop?08:14
ubuntu_kI mean that I want to have optional to start windows or ubuntu when I start computer08:14
ubuntu_kb-166?08:15
ubuntu_kcould you help me?08:15
B_166-ER-Xuh08:15
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B_166-ER-Xwell you use GRUB to do this, but you should have partitionned your HD at the install of ubuntu , did you ?08:15
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ubuntu_khow to partition the disk?08:16
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ubuntu_khow many partitions should I make?08:16
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B_166-ER-Xi dont know how to partition after installation, but somebody might.08:17
B_166-ER-Xand you should need one for ubuntu and one for windows ...08:17
B_166-ER-Xi have windows here too, but on another HD , so no need to partition08:17
aftertafgparted is a gui for partitioning...08:17
B_166-ER-Xmuch simpler if you ask me.08:17
aftertafgrub is a boot loader, you choose what you want to load with it.08:18
ubuntu_kwhat is gparted?08:18
McScruffhas anyone managed to compile mythTV?08:18
srianybody gotten gnome-bluetooth-manager working on breezy?08:18
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sriit's supposed to giveyou feedback whenyou hit the scan menu item08:18
fr33mindQuestion: where evolution put configuration file for mail account list ??  I try to restore my evolution parameter from my user account backup.  I look in .evolution, .gnome2_private and .gconf/apps08:18
sribut on console it talks about various assertions failing like GTK_IS_LABEL08:19
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KumakunWhat exactly do I have to do to start updating my os towards breezy?08:19
sriwhich clearly indicates that it's failing to put up a gui.08:19
aftertaf!upgrade2breezy08:19
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade08:19
aftertafKumakun:  ^^^^^08:19
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KumakunThanks. ^_^08:19
aftertaf;)08:19
aftertafsri:  if really broken, file a bug report....08:19
sriyeah I think I will08:20
srithere are other things that are broken08:20
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srignome-phone-manager won't accept any pin I've defined :/08:21
caustictwinhow does one play .pls files in breezy badger?08:21
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ubuntu_kleave08:22
vladuz976anybody here using mutt with pop3 and knows a good guide that i could consult?08:22
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B_166-ER-X'thou who play with root, shall eventually kill the tree'08:23
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aftertaf_hi honey i'm home :)08:23
Dr_Willissri,  i had to set the pin in /etc/bluetooth/pin (i think) and restart the services.. but this was with the kde tools..08:24
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weiorhwevladuz976, the mutt help file is useful08:24
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weiorhwe(really)08:24
sriDr_Willis: yeah, I've odne all that it's something to do with bluez-pin or bluepin, neither of them work. ?/08:24
Dr_Willisi was thinking bluez-pin called bluepin08:25
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Dr_Willisit wasent working.. then it worked. :P for me .  lol08:25
Dr_Willisi changed the pin from the default.08:25
McScruffplease help me compile mythTV on breezy badger08:25
Dr_Willisand restarted.. BUT even then. there were some issues.08:25
McScruffi get this08:25
McScruffhttp://pastebin.ca/2416608:25
Dr_WillisMcScruff,  why not just apt-get the binaries?08:25
McScruffi need to add a patch08:25
robitaillevladuz976, there is a small section on mutt and pop on that site: http://www.linuxnovice.org/main_software.php3?VIEW=VIEW&t_id=14608:25
sriDr_Willis: yeah, I should try changing from the default but I doubt it will help :/08:25
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Dr_Willissri,  i THINK it may see you have the default still set - and  not like it...08:26
paulproteus|laptMcScruff: Now type 'make.08:26
paulproteus|lapt'08:26
paulproteus|laptMcScruff: $ make08:26
McScruffmake: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.08:26
Dr_Willisi tried the pin in the default file (1234) and it didnt work till i changed/.restarted.08:26
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paulproteus|laptMcScruff: Do this:08:26
paulproteus|laptsudo apt-get build-dep mythtv08:26
vladuz976robitaille: already saw that. didn't work for me. kept getting errors. plus it doesn't use fetchmail the guide only shows how to have mutt directly use pop08:27
paulproteus|laptThat should bring in everything you need.08:27
paulproteus|lapt"build-dep" installs only the build dependencies, not the package itself.08:27
McScruffE: Unable to find a source package for mythtv08:27
paulproteus|laptMcScruff: Have you enabled the "universe" respository?08:27
paulproteus|laptMcScruff: Do you know how to?08:27
McScruffi know how to08:28
paulproteus|laptMcScruff: If you don't understand something I say, ask.  I won't know you don't understand unless you say you don't know what I mean.08:28
robitaillevladuz976,  you use fetchmail?  Then you don't need to use pop in mutt since your mail will be in a local folder08:28
paulproteus|laptOkay. :)08:28
GNULinuxeris it ok to upgrade to breezy now?08:28
paulproteus|laptfetchmail++08:28
vladuz976robitaille: i guess then i need a guide on fetchmail08:28
paulproteus|laptGNULinuxer: I'm running Breezy, and it's "fairly safe".08:28
robitailleGNULinuxer,  breezy works fine for me08:28
KumakunUpgrading now. Hopefully this doesn't hose my install.08:28
cafuego_GNULinuxer: If you don't mind breakage, sure.08:29
GNULinuxerpaulproteus|lapt: how safe is ``fairly safe'' ?08:29
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mpoolbob2: do you know a link for those ipv6/dns bugs?08:29
paulproteus|laptGNULinuxer: If you're *NIX-aware enough to be using ``'', you'll be fine. ;)08:29
GNULinuxercafuego_: breakage ? no i don't want breakage08:29
cafuego_GNULinuxer: Let me put it this way: There were 2 X releases over the past 24 hours.08:29
paulproteus|laptGNULinuxer: Seriously, I've had no problems yet, but I dist-upgrade daily to make sure I have the freshest packages.08:29
paulproteus|laptWhich does often include X. :)08:29
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GNULinuxerpaulproteus|lapt: i am *NIX aware ... but i hate breakage08:30
cafuego_GNULinuxer: If you don't want breakage, wait until 2 weeks after breezy is released, then update.08:30
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grndslmanybody here ever messed with the matchbox wm??08:30
weiorhweis there a general channel on freenode?08:30
GNULinuxercafuego_: yep, that's what I will do08:30
paulproteus|laptweiorhwe: "General", like random chat?08:30
weiorhwebasically08:30
cafuego_'less /dev/urandom'08:30
deFryskweiorhwe, #freenode ?08:30
cafuego_lots of random chat.08:30
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MadpilotPPCweiorhwe, there's always #ubuntu-offtopic...08:30
tristanmike!tell tristanmike about repositories08:30
paulproteus|laptweiorhwe: Try /list in your IRC client.08:31
weiorhwethanks08:31
hanshelp me with xchat08:31
cafuego_why?08:31
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BlueEaglehans: What is the problem with xchat?08:31
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cafuego_BlueEagle: in one word: 'xchat". ;-)08:31
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hansit is rolling so fast08:32
BlueEaglecafuego_: Thankyou for that useful piece of input.08:32
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deFryskhans, we'll stop typing ;p08:32
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GNULinuxercafuego_: what's the diff. between random & urandom ?08:32
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[Spooky] Anyone have any idea of how to installa the Java package when the ubuntuguide dosent work ? (i tried to download it from www.java.com and install and it didnt work)08:32
cafuego_One crahses your irc client, the other doesn't?08:33
hansit was recommended for leaning ubuntu08:33
BlueEaglehans: "rolling"? Are you trying to diable joins, parts, quits and nick displaid?08:33
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deFrysk[Spooky] , first: never use ubuntuguide again08:33
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hansdont know anything give a hint for self study xchat08:34
dooglusis anyone seeing strange behaviour from alt-tab in breezy?08:34
dooglusit's not drawing window borders for me any more08:34
none_-man random08:34
dooglussince yesterday's update08:34
none_-kind of interesting, actually08:35
BlueEaglehans: google? xchat.org?08:35
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cafuego_dooglus: I get a 1-pixel shaded border08:35
deFrysk[Spooky] , in short : for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 08:35
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cafuego_dooglus: Like the gksu password dialog does too, now.08:35
doogluscafuego_: cafuego_ I'm talking about around the window you're about to switch to, not the icons in the middle of the screen.  you too?08:35
paulproteus|laptdeFrysk: You missed 'fakeroot'.08:35
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[Spooky] deFrysk: ok let me try...08:36
ak37I think there is BlackDown java in the repos08:36
hanshow do I talk to blueeagle and no one else08:36
ak37I have it installed and working08:36
none_-hans, /query blueeagle08:36
cafuego_dooglus: No, that behaves normally.08:36
none_-or /msg blueeagle08:37
doogluscafuego_: what's normal?08:37
cafuego_dooglus: the windows border being drawn?08:37
cafuego_s/s//08:37
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deFrysk[Spooky] , also install fakeroot08:37
doogluscafuego_: oh.  wonder what I've done wrong then.  I see the border drawn for 1 frame, then it gets undrawn.  it just flickers into existance for 1/50th of a second08:38
deFrysk[Spooky] , and do fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] 08:38
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Myrttihm08:38
deFryskand use sudo when dpkg -i08:38
cafuego_dooglus: Oh, the highlight around the actual window border, yes. That flashes in&out of exsitence.08:39
doogluscafuego_: it shouldn't, should it?08:39
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boneein #fluxbox08:40
boneei'm back08:40
dooglusI had a similar problem last week where the whole window I was switching to went black when I alt-tabbed to it - but that turned out to be I was missing a module in my xorg.conf.08:40
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IceDC571what day is breezy supposed to be final?08:41
ak3713th of Oct08:42
[Spooky] deFrysk: yes! it worked, thanks :) btw that *.deb is good for any user to use ?08:42
IceDC571thanks08:42
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deFrysk[Spooky] , in ubuntu yes, if you wish to run azureus with it you have to put java in your path in .bashrc08:43
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[Spooky] deFrysk: ok08:43
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deFrysk[Spooky] , and again , use the wiki , not ubuntuguide please , its a bad/poor resource08:44
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dhonn#ubuntu-dev08:45
dhonnls08:45
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[Spooky] deFrysk: ok, well the wiki is "hard to find" i think... maybe its a habbit ?08:45
KumakunWhen did that change? I thought ubuntuguide used to be the endall be all?08:45
deFrysk[Spooky] , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation is your ubuntu bible08:46
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deFrysk!ubuntuguide08:47
MyrttiKumakun: when people realized that it's not that informative and explains nothing, it helps no one understand the system they're using and thus adds the risk of user borking his/her system08:47
ubotuit has been said that ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.08:47
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Ashenyo08:47
darklogichey everyone08:47
grndslmanybody have any experience with devil's pie??08:48
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Nano|9000hi Darklogic08:48
Ashenhas anyone got a working nvidia-settings in breezy?08:48
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Myrttigrndslm: I tried to use it, but no luck08:48
Asheninstalled from the repos08:48
darklogichow can i add a module to the kernel permanently (as opposed to modprobe'ing it every time i reboot)?08:48
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Myrttigrndslm: that was long time ago, might work now08:48
McScruffdoes anyone know where ican get liblame-dev?08:48
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grndslmmyrtti, apparently the 0.13 version has changed quite a bit08:49
Myrttigrndslm: could be08:49
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Ashendarklogic: you could always put the modprobe command in rc.d08:49
robitailleMcScruff,   it's in the Ubuntu multiverse repository   http://packages.ubuntu.com/liblame-dev08:49
McScruffty08:49
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Ashendarklogic: or any other script that runs at startup08:50
Erronanyone know where to get libjpeg-devel source08:50
darklogicAshen, but is that the best way?08:50
Ashendarklogic: probably not...08:50
darklogic;)08:50
ak37darklogic: I think there is an rc.modules file08:50
Ashendarklogic: but I dont see why it would be a "bad" way :)08:50
ak37let me check it out first08:51
cafuego_Erron: apt-cache search libjpeg08:51
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Erroncafuego I need the source I only find rpms08:51
ErronI need the devel source08:51
ak37darklogic: type the module name at /etc/modules08:52
cafuego_Erron: add a deb-src line in your sources.list, then 'apt-get source <packagename>'08:52
ak37it lists the kernel modules to load at boot time08:52
cafuego_Erron: Note that source and package-dev are NOT the same thing. What are you compiling anyway?08:52
bob2Erron: "devel source"? you mean the headers?08:52
cafuego_Erron: Also, apt-cache search never finds RPMs.08:52
Erronyea basicly GD isnt getting JPEG :/08:52
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ErronI'm on another box atm thats why08:52
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darklogicak37, perfect. thanks very much!08:53
cafuego_Erron: gd is compiled with jpeg support.08:53
bob2Erron: why are you compiling GD at all?08:53
ErronI need it for php, I need to prefix Jpeg and then get GD to compile with it08:53
Erronfor distribution08:53
Erronor else I would use /usr08:53
cafuego_Erron: install php4-gd08:53
cafuego_Erron: It's all pre-built.08:54
bob2Erron: wtf08:54
bob2Erron: php in ubuntu also has gd and jpeg support08:54
Erronno bob lol I need this for not just ubuntu08:54
Erronthis is for a project I need to distribute08:54
Erronand I need the stuff contained in the package08:54
bob2Erron: so, stop whatever you're doing08:55
bob2Erron: and explain what on earth your goal here is08:55
cafuego_Why would any sane human run precompiled 3rd party code?08:55
Erronits a software.. company needs it08:55
bob2Erron: and the software is written in php?08:55
Erronyes08:55
Erronmostly08:55
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Erronfrontend and some backend08:55
cafuego_So why can't the company install the gd module for php?08:56
bob2so what does this have to do with compiling php?08:56
cafuego_Coz compiling it on ubuntu will result in a module they probably can't load anyway.08:56
Erroncafuego I can compile gd module.. I just need to put the jpeg in a specific folder08:56
Erroncause I'm doing it static08:56
bob2no08:56
bob2this plan is broken08:57
Erronwell it is how I need to do it08:57
bob2any plan involving compiling php statically is broken08:57
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ErronIt is already working ..08:57
bob2Erron: *why* do you think you need to compile php?08:57
Erronbecause I am told to do so08:57
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cafuego_Erron: What apache/php and Distro does the target machine run?08:57
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Erronits not just 1 target08:57
Erronthis is for distribution08:57
mpoolbob2: do you have a reference to those bugs about ipv6?08:57
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Erronso I have to assume its people with minimal install08:58
Erronthats why everything has to be contained and runs out of our dir08:58
Errondont wanna have conflict with other peoples system files or add any there08:58
cafuego_Erron: Then you package your software up and add a README saying "You need 1) PHP 2) GD with libjpeg". You can check this in php with "function_exists('imagejpeg')"08:58
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Erroncafuego no it has to work out of the package08:59
Erronits a commercial product08:59
ErronI cant make users go and compile/install stuff08:59
cafuego_Erron: Then I'm sorry, but I can't help you.08:59
bob2mpool: no, sorry; it's either closed or bugzilla search is missing it.08:59
ErronI'm asking about jpeg not how to package08:59
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mpoolyep08:59
cafuego_Yes, sorry.08:59
bob2Erron: has someone checked whether you have permission to distribute this combined work?08:59
Erronyes..08:59
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Erronthis product is already on windows09:00
Erroni'm just assigned to put the php on lin09:00
Erronthats all09:00
hansEr der nogen dansktalende?09:00
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Errontrust me I'm not having much fun lol I would do it much easier ways09:01
Erronbut I'm told to do it a certain way so :o09:01
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cafuego_Erron: Did you consider telling your manager he's a moron? (Diplomatically?)09:01
KumakunWell....the update is still installing....so far it hasn't exploded...09:01
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Erroncafuego the CEO actually09:01
Erronheh he's the programmer/owner so no I dont think so09:02
cafuego_Erron: Did you? Can I? :-)09:02
Erronlol09:02
cafuego_Probably  aredhat user too09:02
StarKruzrhi guys.  anyone know if I should be expecting things not to work when trying to compile a 2.4.19 kernel on my nice pretty new breezy-badger install?  It errors out on make bzImage and complains about an array in processor.h.09:02
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QuequegErron, AFAIK, Only Oracle successfully gets away with what you're suggesting.09:02
Erronactually I have to get this thing working soon I need to test it on ibm platforms09:02
QuequegAnd you're probably not working for Oracle.09:02
Erronthey are partners with them09:03
Erronso..09:03
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cafuego_Erron: Well, in the unlikely even this enterprise actually works, you'll want the libjpeg source. Use 'apt-get source'09:03
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ErronI have the libjpeg sourcre09:03
Erronsource* its just not compiling right when I prefix09:03
cafuego_All IBM employees I know would refuse to run a statically precompiled php from an unknown source.09:03
bob2I'm pretty sure you can't compile php4 on ubuntu so that it will work with arbitrary versions of apache09:03
Erronno .h/so/a nothing made09:03
Errononly 2 folder bin and man/man109:03
meeerhi.. can anyone plss help me ... how to access g++ i have installed it but dont know how to open it :)09:04
Erronand we arnt using apache btw09:04
cafuego_And if they didn't, they'd ptobably lsoe their jobs <heh>09:04
bob2meeer: open it? you type 'g++' at the terminal to run it.09:04
Erroncafuego its not an unknown source09:04
meeerbob2: thanks lemme try09:04
Erronthey give access through partnership.. and you develop product to work on their platform its their new chiphopper crap09:05
bob2Erron: I still don't see why you're compiling libjpeg09:05
Erronbecause our app requires GD with its support09:05
bob2Erron: even if you really want a static libjpeg, ubuntu has that already09:05
meeerbon2: g++: no input files09:05
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Erronthis isnt just ubuntu bob2 I just ask incase anyone here might know where to get the dev source09:05
bob2meeer: er, of course, you need to tell it what to compile09:05
Erroncause i only found rpms09:05
Erronits ok I'll figure it out thanks anyways09:05
bob2Erron: "dev source" is not a sensible phrase09:05
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mpoolmeeer: typically "g++ -o hello hello.cc"09:06
bob2Erron: you really reall yreally need to define what you're trying to do more strictly09:06
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meeerthats09:06
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Erronbob2 if you saw my actual question from the start09:06
squizzeehello09:06
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ErronI did state so09:06
bob2Erron: if it's "create a statically-linked php4 command line program", you're going about it all wrong09:06
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ErronIT has been working09:07
Erronthe only prob is moving it shared lib prob09:07
meeermpool: am a very newb in linux.. it says no file o directory found..09:07
carrarroHow do I do to install an application downloaded from the web. It came in like a ZIP file...09:07
Erronthats the only reason why I need it prefix'd09:07
Erronother then that its working perfectly fine09:07
mpoolmeeer: what do you want to do with g++09:07
mpoolit's a compiler09:07
_Otaviano_09:07
_Otaviano_Traduo Babel Fish   Ajuda09:07
_Otaviano_In English:09:07
_Otaviano_where I obtain to driver for modem USR WINMODEM09:07
mpoolyou need some source to compile09:07
_Otaviano_where I obtain to driver for modem USR WINMODEM09:07
mpoolare you trying to compile something you downloaded or are you trying to learn c++?09:07
meeerwant to write c++09:08
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meeersomething like turbo c++09:08
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mpoolmeeer: g++ is just the compiler09:08
bob2Erron: no, you don't need the libjpeg source at all then09:08
mpoollike TCC.EXE or whatever it was called09:08
meeerok got it..09:08
mpoolmm09:08
bob2Erron: just compile php against it statically09:08
Erronyou mean with --with-jpeg- right?09:09
mpoolyou can install Anjuta if you want a graphical environment09:09
meeerso is there anything like a package to write c++09:09
Erronand use --enable-static=yes09:09
mpooldo you have a c++ tutorial or something?09:09
carrarrobut is there a Integrated Development Environment for C++ in Ubuntu?09:09
meeerthanks09:09
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bob2carrarro: there's anjuta and motor09:09
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bob2carrarro: most people seem to use vim or emacs, tho09:09
mpoolcarrarro: i think Anjuta is such09:09
mpoolor Kdevelop09:09
Erronbob2 yea but jpeg itself doesnt compile correctly into folder so I cant run php against it09:09
carrarroI downloaded  Anjuta, but I don't know how to install it.09:09
mpoolbut i think 95+% of linux programmers use vim or emacs09:10
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Errononly way that its working right now is If I use /usr and then the comp has to have libjpeg installed to work09:10
meeeris vim or emacs gui09:10
mrchicagoheh09:10
mpoolkind of09:11
carrarroI tryed following the instructions in the readme file, but I couldn't get it to work09:11
bob2Erron: dude09:12
bob2Erron: install libjpeg62-dev.  tell php to compile statically.  the entire point of static compilation is that it does not use external libs at runtime.09:12
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mpoolcarrarro: have you tried "sudo apt-get install anjuta" ?09:13
mpoolmeeer: so what i suggest you do is09:13
mpool"emacs ~/hello.c"09:13
mpoolwrite some code into that, save it09:13
mpoolthen09:13
mpool"gcc -o hello hello.c"09:13
meeerthanks09:13
carrarrono, I'll try that.09:13
mpool"./hello"09:13
mrchicagoheh if only my sdl stuff would work09:14
StarKruzrwhat happened to a.out, anyway09:14
meeerthanks guys// bye for now09:14
carrarrompool: Do I need to specify a path?09:14
mpoolcarrarro: no09:15
mpoolmeeer: good luck!09:15
carrarrompool: It didn't do it.09:15
mpooldidn't do what?09:15
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carrarrompool: E: coudn't find Package anjuta09:16
aftertaflinner: sort of connected again.... 8-)09:16
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mpoolah, might have to enable universe09:16
The_Voxcarrarro: you need universe09:16
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carrarroHow do I enable universe?09:16
The_Vox!repos09:17
ubotuit has been said that repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96909:17
The_Voxcarrarro: follow the two links09:17
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carrarrookay...09:17
The_Voxread the first one to understand what you have to do, the second one has the URLs you need09:17
carrarrothank you.09:18
The_Voxnp09:18
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brionAnybody had the Breezy preview 1 installer fail trying to copy pptp-linux_1.5.0-5_i386.deb? I've got a matching md5sum on the .iso image and on the cdrom in the drive, but get a 'No such file or directory' error doing an ls in /cdrom/pool/main/p/pptp-linux which is a bit odd09:19
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mrchicagoim having trouble with kseti09:19
mrchicagoand mysql09:19
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brionwell, we'll see if i can continue install without those pesky packages :)09:21
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hettarAnyone know where I can get a libdvdcss package for breezy ?09:26
deFrysk!info libdvdcss09:27
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zack_lmao09:28
deFryskhettar, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-ae79fed9d60ccdf06f400ae76ad53867d94bb2b809:28
hettarthanks09:28
zack_how u guys doing ! :)09:28
BlueEaglemrchicago: Getting an error messages? Not installing probably? Is this a personal or political issue?09:28
BlueEagleproperly*09:28
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mrchicagojust that it cannot compile09:32
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mrchicagolibsdl is installed09:33
Lichtewho does GNUstep stuff for ubuntu ?09:33
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mrchicagojust dont know why it isnt compiling09:34
bob2no one, really09:34
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bob2mrchicago: mysql is already in ubuntu, there's no need to compile it09:34
BlueEaglemrchicago: Why are you compiling packages when there are pre-compiled binaries for your distribution?09:35
BlueEagle(not sure about kseti though=09:35
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BlueEagleWhy is my synaptic suddenly in danish and not norwegian btw? o.O09:36
carrarroThe_Vox: thanks for the guidance. I now acces to it.09:37
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carrarroThe_Vox: Anjuta I mean.09:37
BlueEaglewell, partly in danish anyways.09:37
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mrchicagoi was talking about trying to program in sdl09:37
BlueEaglemrchicago> im having trouble with kseti09:38
mrchicagoand i was trying to get mythgame to work along with kseti09:38
Lichteif I compile a .deb source, is there a way to set the compiler flags ?09:38
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bob2Lichte: edit debian/rules09:38
bob2Lichte: or the makefile09:38
mrchicagowhat about transcode09:38
bob2Lichte: it depends.  what option would you want to change?09:38
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Lichtebob2: ok09:38
Skidanyone able to lend me a hand with GPG?09:39
mrchicagoany idea where i can find it as a repository for ubuntu09:39
Lichtebob2: I'm on a Via C3 processor09:39
Skidbit of a complex situation, so :)09:39
goliath_Hello, does somebody know, is there mc binaries, which can work with UTF-8 ?09:39
bob2Skid: bes to just ask your question09:39
Lichtebob2: I'd like to change -mmmx and -m3dnow and -march=c309:39
bob2mrchicago: it's in breezy.  if you're using hoary, you can wait a couple of weeks.09:39
BlueEaglemrchicago: is kseti a kde front end for seti@home (ie. not tkseti)09:39
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bob2Lichte: does that really help a noticable amount?09:39
bob2Lichte: you'll want to look at pentium-builder, too09:39
Lichtebob2: quite, yes09:40
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mrchicagoyes09:40
Lichteok09:40
Lichtethanks09:40
mrchicagook09:40
mrchicagoi guess ill have to wait then09:40
mrchicagofor the new iso to come out09:40
Skidwell, I generated two GPG keys by mistake with the same email address, lets say key id 1, and 2.  I then canceled key id 1, (revoked) and sent the key back to the server, so I have #2 wokring now.  I went to add another email address to my key, and it added it to the #1 key id. (as per --list-keys) so how can I remove that from that id, and put it on the #2, and then get rid of all traces off the harddrive of key #109:40
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bob2Skid: removing key #1 from your hard drive is a bad idea09:41
goliath_does somebody know, is there mc binaries, which can work with UTF-8 ? I've tried mc from Debian Sarge, and it doesn't :(09:41
bob2Skid: the public bit will never leave the keyservers, and you'll just have no access to it09:42
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Skidbob2: but if I add any other stuff to key #1, it'll add to it09:42
Skider09:42
Skid#209:42
bob2Skid: ?09:42
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Skidlike i wanted to add my uni email address to my key09:42
bob2Skid: gpg --edit-key <key2id>09:42
Skidhmm09:42
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Ce^ITSim sorry09:43
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ekimushi, i'm searching for an application that keeps track of the time i spend on a project (don't wanna set up something in OOo - no time) any hints packages like these? (would be perfect if it has been ported to windows already)09:43
bob2ekimus: gtimelog09:44
mortit's called "a wife" she will remind you every day how many hours you spend on your project instead with her ;)09:44
heatxsinkhas anyone else had problems with a PC-Card to CF Card reader?09:45
Erronhey bob I used /usr and compiled it static but when ldd php it says it's looking for the libjpeg in /usr still.. so if someone doesnt have it installed will it still work09:45
ekimusmort: yes but the filtering options with "wife" aren't that good, "it" only remembers whenever she was bored and not all the statistics...09:45
Erronalso i got the stuff to run on other version of fc/rh but on ubuntu it said libidn lib shared prob that doesnt come with ubuntu?09:46
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bob2Erron: nope09:46
bob2Erron: remember you're basically doomed, since static binaries don't really exist on linux anymore09:46
bob2Erron: I'd try asking on #php for advice on how to compile it09:47
loststrykhow can i get ubuntu to recompile gftp with openssl ?09:47
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Erronyea I've been doin that for past 2 weeks :P09:47
bob2the simplest solution is for people to not bother using ftp/ssl09:47
Ce^ITS:p09:47
bob2use rsync or sftp like jeebus intended09:47
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loststrykyeah but some ftp daemons like drftpd require auth tls...09:47
bob2wow, that's really useless09:48
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loststryki dont really want to go back to windows....09:48
Skidnope, it still tries to edit the key that is revoked09:48
bob2if you insist on it, "apt-get source gftp", edit debian/rules, and "dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -s"09:48
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bob2Skid: show us the exact output in #flood09:48
ek0excuse my ignorance, i have just installed ubuntu for the first time ! and during the installation it doesn't even mention the root password ! is there a default root password for it ?09:48
bob2ek0: no, it explains exactly what the deal with root is09:49
bob2ek0: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo09:49
ek0thanks bob209:49
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loststrykcant find a source package for gftp09:51
crimsunapt-cache showsrc gftp09:52
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ek0bob2, i'm just checking, but basically i have to do everything that needs "root" previlidges by sudo. right ?09:52
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bob2ek0: that's the default, yes09:53
loststrykre-intalling widnows later today then by the looks of it :(09:53
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bob2loststryk: perhaps you didn't uncomment the deb-src lines in /etc/apt/sources.list?09:53
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crimsunridiculous.09:56
Myrttilovely09:56
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jc-dentoni still have problemes with the locales on breezy09:57
jc-dentonif i set them to utf-8 gtk apps will run w/o bitching09:58
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jc-dentonbut the output of some commands like pstree is fucked09:58
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crimsunjc-denton, what if you use LANG=C pstree ?09:58
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linnersorry10:00
linner:)10:00
jc-dentoncrimsun: there is no locale which is called C i think10:00
jc-dentonsame prob10:00
crimsunjc-denton, but does prefacing pstree with LANG=C resolve the issue?10:01
kemikcrimsun:  what is LANG=C really ?10:01
jc-dentonlol10:02
kemikgot that setting on a unix box where i got account10:02
jc-dentonwhen i run it as user it does10:02
jc-dentonnot as root10:02
jc-dentonwtf10:02
bob2kemik: it means "screw this locale thing, pretend we're a unix in the US in 1975"10:02
jc-dentonah nope10:02
jc-dentonwhen i run it inside screen it does not work10:03
kemikbob2:  .. oh.. "great" :)10:03
jc-dentonbut that's a screen issue i think10:03
bob2jc-denton: screen needs to be put in utf-8 mode10:03
jc-dentoncrimsun: so i just export LANG=C in my zshrc and stuff is fixed?10:03
crimsunjc-denton, see what bob2 stated10:03
jc-dentonbob2: nope10:03
jc-dentonLANG=C screen works here10:04
crimsunjc-denton, I only do LANG=C on a per-app basis10:04
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jc-dentoncrimsun: why10:04
jc-dentoni need something which works for every app10:04
mrchicagoheh10:04
stan|uniWhile logging off, there are no checkboxes in the appearing window, so i have to guess where they are supposed to be. Anyone knows this problem?10:04
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bob2LANG=C isn't a fix for anything10:05
bob2it's a temporary workaround10:05
jc-dentonhrmm yes10:05
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jc-dentoni want a fix10:05
jc-denton:D10:05
bob2then figure out if it's pstree, your terminal's or screen's fault10:05
jc-dentonif screen is started with LANG=C then it works10:06
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jc-dentonbasically i switched my default locale to en_US-iso.something10:06
jc-dentonthen i started to get some error msgs from gtk apps10:07
bob2don't do that10:07
crimsunif an app won't work with UTF-8, it needs to be beaten into shape10:07
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jc-dentoncrimsun: well10:08
jc-dentonit's just like this10:08
jc-dentoni can't switch to utf-8 if apps doesn't work10:08
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jc-dentonso when will it be fixed?10:09
bob2jc-denton: so10:10
trigger_phhello...need help. i'm still having problems connecting to google talk via jabber.."server does not use supported authentication methods"...i'm on ubuntu, hoary release..gaim v.1.5.010:10
bob2I'm using en_AU.UTF-810:10
bob2and pstree works smashingly10:10
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bob2even inside screen10:11
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nerdy2i'm using en_US.UTF-8 and pstree works fine10:11
jc-dentonwith LANG=C?10:11
jc-dentonlol10:11
jc-dentoni have breezy10:11
nerdy2i'm on breezy10:11
jc-dentonok10:11
bob2me too10:12
jc-dentonwhat does echo $LANG say10:12
jc-denton?10:12
bob2jc-denton: are you using xterm?10:12
nerdy2en_US.UTF-8  [as i said before]  :)10:12
jc-dentonnope aterm10:12
Oetzihi10:12
bob2jc-denton: use xterm10:12
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jc-dentonok it works on xterm10:12
jc-dentonbut not on aterm10:12
Oetzibob2: using xterm is no solution for me10:13
bob2right10:13
bob2so aterm is crap10:13
bob2Oetzi: why?10:13
jc-dentonno10:13
bob2yes10:13
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jc-dentonit worked on debian aterm10:13
Oetzibecause there is the same error-message10:13
crimsunthere are a bevy of terminal emulators that can handle UTF-8 and are a bit slimmer than xterm, jc-denton10:13
bob2jc-denton: with a utf-8 locale?10:13
bob2Oetzi: what error message?10:14
n00bsterhello, i have mounted my drives, but i want them to show on desktop, how it's don?10:14
jc-dentonnot sure10:14
jc-dentonbut i never had this problem10:14
mrchicagowill i be able to just update everything with the new iso or do i have to reinstall10:14
Oetziand GTK-App: locale not supported by Xlib10:14
bob2jc-denton: there you go10:14
twibblerso a real load of updates for breezy todya ....10:14
bob2Oetzi: and the output of "locale" was...10:14
trigger_phbrb10:14
bob2mrchicago: of course you can updated10:14
Oetzimy locale is de_DE@euro10:14
jc-denton10:12 < Oetzi> and GTK-App: locale not supported by Xlib10:15
jc-dentonyes10:15
jc-dentonif u take utf u will get rid of this error10:15
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n00bsterhello, i have mounted my drives, but i want them to show on desktop, how it's don?10:15
bob2Oetzi: there you go then10:15
bob2Oetzi: use a utf-8 locale10:15
jc-dentonbut u should be able to use non-utf stuff w/o strange errors too..10:15
bob2yes, but no one cares about non-C non-utf-8 locales anymore10:16
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Oetzii can't use utf-8 because of geting problems with my server-interactions10:16
n00bsterneed some assistance here.... :)10:16
jc-dentonwell there are no c locales10:16
jc-dentonbob2: well i never had problemes with that iso locales10:16
jc-dentonso why should i care about utf10:17
Oetziso I'm wrking with POSIX C for now10:17
Oetziand wait for a bugfix10:17
bob2n00bster: looks like no one knows10:17
bob2n00bster: try asking on the mailing list, perhaps10:18
Myrttihm10:18
n00bster:)10:18
jc-dentonOetzi: so u just set LANG=C10:18
linners10:18
Nermaln00bster: what was the question ?10:18
n00bsteri have mounted my drives, but i want them to show on desktop, how it's don?10:18
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Nermaluse gconf-editor ?10:18
Jowihi all10:18
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Oetziyes i did it yesterday and it works fine for know10:19
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Nermaln00bster: just open the Computer place and drag the drive to the desktop10:19
Oetzibut as bob2 said it is only a temporary solution10:19
athan00bster: gconf-editor - apps - nautilus - desktop - volumes visible10:19
n00bsterhm..  whare can i find gconf?10:20
Nermalin the gnome menu10:20
Oetzimmh is there no xlock on breezy?10:21
n00bsteri use breeze, and do not have a naulituls menuw10:21
Nermalapplications -> system10:21
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athaapplications - system tools - configuration editor10:21
n00bstermaybe - configuration editor ?10:21
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athaor simply pressing alt-f2 and running gconf-editor10:22
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athawhatever you prefer10:22
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n00bsterhm... volumes_visible - is on !10:23
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Nermaln00bster: click / drag from nautilus10:24
crimsunugh10:24
Nermalas suggested in the first place10:24
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n00bsterfrom the path taht thay are mounted ?10:25
jc-dentonhumm10:25
jc-dentonwell thx4info anyway10:25
jc-dentonbut i would really be happy if this bug would be fixed soon10:25
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bob2bah10:26
n00bsterwhat do i need to click&drag from nautilus ?10:26
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n00bstercan you tell me what i need do drag from nautilus ?10:28
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n00bstercan you tell me what i need do drag from nautilus ?10:28
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ompauln00bster, we say you the first time - there are 484 people in the channel please wait for a reply :)10:29
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bob2I'm not sure that asking over and over will help10:29
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ompauls/say/saw/10:29
bob2presumably you should drage the icon for the drive10:29
n00bsterok, sry.10:29
Nermaln00bster: *sigh*10:29
bzimagehello all10:30
bzimage:)10:30
Nermallo bzimage :)10:31
max_hallo zusammen, guten morgen10:31
volvoguymy friends, i have good news that i never could have predicted. i had almost given up on my one 250Gb ext3 partitioned drive with bad blocks and superblock, but i tried someone's suggestion here of "Phoneix Linux" recovery software and the dang thing read every single byte of data off the drive. i was blown away.10:31
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bzimagevolvoguy, good!10:31
bzimage:)10:31
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Nermalvolvoguy: are you in nigeria ? :)10:32
volvoguyi'm happy. i just had to share. :-)10:32
volvoguyNermal, no... detroit, michigan, usa.10:32
ompaulNermal, for the 419th time no he is not10:32
Nermal:)10:32
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n00bsterok, i mange to fix this on myself :)10:33
n00bstermanaged*10:33
Nermalyou could have just used our advice :)10:34
ompauln00bster, great10:34
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n00bsterit's quite satisfying to finally figure yore way in Linux (the little that i can) ')10:36
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hutgyrrim after coming in this morning and my ubuntu box is chugging away that I cant do anything with it. The hard disk activity is through the roof. However, I just left it last night burning a DVD and theres just a terminal windows open10:39
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hutgyrrhow can I troubleshoot it?10:39
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johnnybezakhey guys10:42
Jowihutgyrr, run "top" in that terminal to see what is happening....10:43
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Jowihutgyrr, you will mostly see CPU activity but generally they are connected10:44
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hutgyrrnautilus is the most resource heavy, it appears to be using 90% of mem but only 3% of CPU10:46
dmacdonald111Hi all.10:46
ompaulhutgyrr, is it doing anything else other than IRC at the moment?10:47
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hutgyrrim not IRC'ing from this box10:47
ompaulhutgyrr, is it doing anything useful at the moment?10:47
dmacdonald111I've found that I need to use bcmwl5 with ndiswrapper to get my wireless network working, but I am unable to find the files anywhere. Does anyone have any suggestions where I can get it from?10:47
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Skidhttp://nicolas.bonifas.free.fr/inspiron/bcmwl5.inf10:48
Jowihutgyrr, there are also tools for monitoring SMART enabled harddisks. a quick google search will give you this: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/698310:48
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dmacdonald111Thank you Skid. I am guessing that I have to compile this first before using it?10:49
Jowihutgyrr, maybe your system is clearing the cache after that 6Gb dvd10:50
Skidno, its an inf file, I think you point ndiswrapper towards it (chek the wiki for broadcom, im sure i saw it there - or search the forums..)10:50
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hutgyrrwell that DVD was burned over 12hours ago and its doing nothing useful10:51
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Jowihutgyrr, yeah that sounds abit suspicious :)10:52
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ceriushi10:53
n00bsterquestion:  I'm trying to make new DIR, or to change permissions on my HDA from the interface10:53
n00bsterbut this options are grayed out. allthow i have assigned my user to root group in users & groups menu. (and rebooted). how can i fix this ?10:53
ceriuswat ist the german ubuntu room name?10:53
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cafuego_!de10:54
ubotumethinks de is #ubuntu-de bitte.10:54
Jowicerius, ubuntu-de10:54
cafuego_Dort macht man alles auf Deutsch.10:54
ceriusok danke10:55
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cafuego_Und das finder die Hollnder hier ganz ekelhaft.10:55
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talios'lo crimsun10:57
crimsun'lo mark10:57
Chameleon22i am getting an error message from xine: source seems to be encrypted when i try to play a dvd i bought and it plays fine in a normal dvd player... ideas?10:57
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johnnybezakhey guys I'm thinking of backing up my home dir to my server how often do you think would be a sensible idea? what should i use rsync?10:57
cafuego_Chameleon22: you need libdvdcss2. Install libdvdread3 and check /us/share/doc/libdvdread3/exampels. There should be a shell script, run that using sudo.,10:58
Jowin00bster, the permissions for the drives that get mounted at boot is decided in the file /etc/fstab. to make a long story short, if you want to be able to write to that disk - you will need to edit this file. easiest way to help is if you post /etc/fstab to the pastebin10:58
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Jowiubotu, tell n00bster about pastebin10:58
Chameleon22johnnybezak, how often does your data change lo, rsync over ssh is a very nice way yes10:58
hutgyrrok, I killed nautilus and im back to normal again10:58
Chameleon22cafuego, thank you, will try10:58
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wezzerdoes anyone know when openoffice 2.0 will be released as a non-beta?10:59
johnnybezakChameleon22: not *lots* just usual music/pictures etc. how do I do the rsync over ssh?\10:59
Jowi:)10:59
ph8konqueror's SIGSEV'ing on breezy when i try to start it10:59
ph8how would i go about reinstalling it? i can't deselect it as that would remove kdebase as well..?10:59
crimsunph8: did you dist-upgrade from hoary? If so, have you rebooted since?11:00
ph8yes and yes11:00
hutgyrrwhat could nautilus possibly have been doing though?11:00
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crimsunph8: someone in #kubuntu may know more11:00
ph8sorry thought i was there :p11:00
crimsunyou are, I just rejoined11:01
Jowihutgyrr, really good question. i stopped using it. installed rox-filer instead. lacking some features, sure, but it is fast and is not doing stuff in the background11:01
crimsunapologies if you've already asked11:01
ph8thought i was talking on there :p11:01
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ph8in the meantime, how can i access //HUB/ on my windows network11:01
hutgyrrmount -t smbfs //HUB/Share -o username=user,password=pass11:02
ph8ty11:03
ph8where will that mount it to though?11:03
ninjafuryhi, first time running linux and need some help. I've installed breezy (AMD 64) on my pc, and after its set up, xorg wont set up. Now its been auto disabled, and all i get is "assuming drive cache:write through" being constantly printed to my screen... can anyone help?11:03
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hutgyrroh yeah actually after //HUB/share /mnt/windowsshares11:03
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ph8hmm11:04
ph8errors11:04
hutgyrrhave you smbfs installed11:04
ph8heh no, just 'samba'11:04
ph8i specified an invalid share name?11:05
ninjafuryis the "assuming drive cache" msg an error, or has it just frozen up?11:05
ph8mount -t smbfs //HUB/ /mnt/HUB11:05
hutgyrrwhats the error11:05
concept10!xorg11:05
ubotuit has been said that xorg is sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:05
Chameleon22johnnybezak, you there ?11:05
concept10ninjafury, try to do that11:06
ninjafuryi've tried the xorg config, but it always just fails11:06
Chameleon22pm me if you still interested i am kind of all over the place so easier to chat in private so i can keep track better11:06
concept10ninjafury, have you tried to reconfigure?11:06
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reterhaving printer problems11:06
concept10with different settings?11:06
ninjafuryyeah i have, i manually put in my monitor info (sync rates and all that) but it still wont start X11:07
reteri finally got ubuntu to install my printer driver but my printer is printing inlegible documents11:07
Nermalperhaps mentioning what printer you have could be useful ?11:07
hutgyrr* //HUB/ isn't a share name nyway11:07
ninjafuryand now all i get on my screen is "sdc: assuming drive cache: write through" all the time11:07
ph8'a share'?11:08
reterbrother mfc 7150C11:08
concept10ninjafury, that doesnt have anything to do with xorg11:08
ph8i just want to access all shared docs on the HUB machine on this network11:08
reternermal, were you in #aber before?11:08
crimsunninjafury: is this on a usb cd/dvd drive?11:08
hutgyrra share should be sumthing like //HUB/thisisashare11:08
ninjafuryno its on a hard drive11:08
ph8"//HUB/My Music"?11:08
crimsunninjafury: hmm, I do have those symptoms on a usb cd/dvd drive, too, which makes sense due to the scsi emulation11:09
concept10ninjafury, did you upgrade to breezy from hoary using dist-upgrade?11:09
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hutgyrryep '//HUB/My Music' or //HUB/My\ Music/11:09
ninjafuryi didnt upgrade, this is my first linux install11:09
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concept10ninjafury, which release did you use?11:09
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Jowiph8, you can also point it to "//ip.addr.ess/share name" if the HUB name gives you trouble.11:10
ph8ah11:10
ph8will try that11:10
ninjafurythe release is 5.10 breezy badger preview for AMD 6411:10
ph8still says i specified invalid share name11:11
concept10ninjafury, is it the latest one?  (colony 5)11:11
ph8fuck it i'll do it using windows then move it across from the read only partition11:11
Jowiph8, but i think that you really need smbfs installed. so if you haven't already: sudo apt-get install smbfs11:11
ninjafuryi really dont know, but i guess so cuz i just downloaded it today11:11
ph8i have it now11:11
ph8still same prob11:11
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hutgyrrwhat command are you typing in?11:12
concept10ninjafury, are you on that install right now?11:12
ninjafuryyeah11:12
ph8mount -t smbfs "//HUB/Henri's Music" /mnt/HUB11:12
ph8also tried //192.168.0.111:12
hutgyrruse ' not "11:12
ninjafurywell right now i'm on my laptop (the install is on my desktop and its infornt of me)11:12
heatxsinkanyone in here use a PC-Card to CF reader?11:13
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concept10ninjafury, run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade.  There was alot of fixes for xorg coming down the pipe today11:13
heatxsinki can't get ubuntu to read my CF card properly11:13
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ph8' makes it prompt with > after the cmd11:13
Jowiph8, yeah, ' will do that11:13
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ph8<hutgyrr> +use ' not "11:14
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ninjafuryconcept, the thing is that this 'assuming drive cache' error msg is constantly being printed on my screen, so it interupts whatever i'm trying to do. i cant seem to stop it.11:15
reterwhat do you do when your printer is printing unreadable documents?11:15
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Jowiph8, double ' ('' not " (see the difference????)) should make it recognise it as one real '. best bet is to change the share name so it does not have wierd characters in it.11:15
concept10ninjafury, does the livecd work on your?11:15
ninjafuryhaven't tried it11:16
concept10ninjafury, what type of storage do you have on that system? SATA?11:16
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ninjafuryyeah its sata11:16
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concept10you have just one sata drive?11:17
retermost times i come here with a problem i am ignored11:17
reterunless thorpeautic is here11:17
ninjafuryno i have 2, but breezy was installed on the first one, the second drive has no OS installed, it just hass all my data11:18
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Jowireter, if someone can give you a good answer/solution then will. there is no use giving bad advice on stuff that I/we/you know very little about. can make more damage than help :)11:19
Jowis/then/they11:19
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ninjafuryconcept10, could it be that the linux partition is messed up?11:20
loststryk:)11:20
ph8ty jowi11:20
Jowireter, and it will also help if you are more specific. if it is printing pure garbage or do you have stripes in the print? laser or inkjet? what have you tried, etc :)11:20
ph8turns out the windows computer's misconfigured also11:20
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Chameleon22cafuego, thank, installed. Dont get css error anymore... but now it just takes wayyy to long to load while eating all my machine resources11:20
reterin good news i got my cheapo digital camera to work on gkcam11:21
Jowiph8, ah. good you noticed, hehe11:21
retergtkam11:21
concept10ninjafury, I dont believe the partition is messed up, I think you have a problem with SATA drivers and xorg.11:21
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ph8i'm transferring from what is effectively the router to something behind the network switch11:21
ph8pain in the arse11:21
ninjafurydo you know how i can fix the sata driver problem?11:21
reterjowi, i have a brother mfc 7150c. it is printing the document but i can not make out the words. it is completly unreadable. no stripes..not pure garage. my printer is inkjet11:22
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n00bsterthank you Jowi, i will do.11:22
reterjowi, all i tried to change the letter size. make it smaller. i dont know how to change the font. if that is possible11:22
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Jowireter, most printers have a buttoncombination for making a testprint from it (from the printer hardware, not computer). how does that look?11:23
reterjowi, normal11:24
concept10ninjafury, cant help on that one, search the wiki...  try the live cd, see if it works .....11:24
reterjowi, when i had windows i didnt have this problem. it printed well11:24
ninjafuryok thanks11:24
Jowireter, good. what driver are you using? is it connected to paralell or usb?11:24
reterit is connected paralell11:24
reterjowi, using the brother mfc 7150c driver11:25
BurgerMannNow.. what does CVS mean?.. some say subversion, but I can't get that right. :s11:25
bob2cvs is another revision control system11:25
bob2it's old and missing some pretty important features11:25
bob2subversion is newer and tries to fix some of those issues11:26
loststrykreter, try http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_driver.cgi?driver=epsonc&fromprinter=Brother-MFC_7150C11:26
ph8i like svn11:26
ph8why can't you get it right?11:26
bob2get what right?11:26
Jowireter, good advice from loststryk. check it out. my first thought go to the bios. what transfer method is in use? (most bioses and os's work best if EPP/ECP, not SPP is selected). if it is, i would research more for the driver. unfortunatley i do not have much experience with this printer/driver at all...11:28
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Jowi(epp/ecp is a transfer selection for the paralell port in the bios)11:30
ph8bob2: <BurgerMann> +Now.. what does CVS mean?.. some say subversion, but I can't get that right. :s11:31
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ph8<ph8> why can't you get it right?11:32
Chameleon22cafuego, thank, installed. Dont get css error anymore... but now it just takes wayyy to long to load while eating all my machine resources11:32
Chameleon22cafuego, you there dude?11:32
bob2oh, I see11:33
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BurgerMannph8, hmnn.. because I thought CVS was an application, not a concept :}11:33
reterloststryk, what am i suppose to do? download the pdd file?11:33
ph8it is11:33
ph8and it is11:33
BurgerMannph8, oh hehe11:33
ph8more of a protocol11:34
BurgerMannah11:34
ph8It's a versionning system11:34
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ph8so every time you alter the file it might increase the version number from 0.0.3 to 0.0.4 etc11:34
bob2BurgerMann: revision control is the concept, cvs is an implementation11:34
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bob2tho not a particularily good one11:34
ph8then if you get to 1.05 and realise you cocked up the last 5 revisions you can rollback to 1.0011:34
ph8it's a good way to control projects, especially those where lots of you work on them (versionning control not CVS)11:34
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ph8I'd recommend subversion (svn) for it11:35
cafuego_Chameleon22: whut?11:35
ph8it's quite straightforward once you figure it out11:35
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BurgerMannph8, so when ie php faq talks about anonymous CVS, it's some 3rd party who've been tweaking the original official version?11:35
_rb_heyas. whats a good app for ubuntu that i can use to make a relational database and basically have the same functionality of something like access ?11:35
JowiI thought the whole point with CVS is that you can always track down what changes a specific person made...?11:36
_rb_my boss wants me to db all of his stock and clients etc, but I'm not allowed to build it, I've gotta use existing software11:36
Chameleon22cafuego, i got the decryption working, but now when i try to use xine or mplayer it almost chokes my system trying to play a dvd... eats a lot of resources without actually playing11:36
BurgerMann_rb_: I fancy mySql with phpMyadmin, but it takes a webserver with php.11:36
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_rb_phpmyadmin is an administrator, I need to have a frontend for it. preferably a complete package, I've just been looking at the openoffice base package and its hideously underpowered. As I said, I'm not allowed to build one11:37
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_rb_I use php and mysql for my own stuff and contracts, but this is just a rdb for the boss11:38
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_rb_searched in the synaptic pile, and theres a lot to scroll thru11:38
_rb_wanted to know ifd there was a recommended one11:38
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cafuego_Chameleon22: Ouch. Is DMA enabled on the drive?11:39
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Chameleon22cafuego, dma?11:40
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n00bster#gaim11:41
n00bsterhelp11:41
Chameleon22n00bster, you need to type /join before channel name11:41
n00bsterok, ty :)11:41
cafuego_!dma11:42
cafuego_grrtvvrrr11:42
cafuego_!+dma11:42
ubotuwell, dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. A method of transferring data from one memory area to another without having to go through the central processing unit. It makes your hard disks run faster :-).  DMA from the ubuntu wiki guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA11:42
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Eckerhow do i change rpm into deb files11:43
Ecker?11:43
ph8alien11:44
ph8man alien11:44
ph8alien -d file.rpm11:44
ph8iirc11:44
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cafuego_Magic!11:44
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p4skkunas11:47
LuVUnTuany ideas when RC will be out?11:47
LuVUnTurelease candidate11:47
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Tomcat_LuVUnTu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseSchedule11:50
Tomcat_So, Oct. 6th11:50
Zeke1is there anyway to remote desktop from ubuntu to a windowsXP box?11:50
ThePyromaniaccan anyone look at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/262911:50
Tomcat_Zeke1: Install VNC on the WinXP box, then use the Terminal Server Client11:51
LuVUnTuthank u Tomcat_11:51
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Tomcat_Zeke1: There is also some technology already integrated into WinXP that should be possible to use... no idea how to do that though.11:51
LuVUnTuwow that still seem like a pretty long wait11:52
Zeke1Tomcat_, ok vnc is installed on winXP but how do i use the terminal server client...and will i get a graphical view of the winXP desktop like with XP's remote desktop client11:52
Tomcat_LuVUnTu: Well, the Preview is usable... but I like how they test stuff before it's out.11:52
LuVUnTui am already using preview Tomcat_11:52
Tomcat_Zeke1: Open the Terminal Server Client, put in the hostname, choose VNC, then start? o_O11:52
Tomcat_Zeke1: Yes, you'll get a window showing WinXP's desktop11:53
LuVUnTuand it's pretty good so far :)11:53
ThePyromaniacAnyone know why i get the errors posted here whenever i use synaptic http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/262911:53
ThePyromaniacor does anyone know where the configuration file is that declares the position of the Applications/Open window bars?11:53
Zeke1Tomcat_, thanx gonna check it out now11:53
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carthikwhere is the best place to ask a gsl (gnu scientific library) related c programming question?11:54
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Zeke1Tomcat_, when i say connect nothing happens and terminal server dissapears??11:55
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ThePyromaniaccarthik #c++ is a good place :D11:57
Zeke1Tomcat_, ok but thats like a VNC viewer...isnt there some type of Remote desktop client fro ubuntu?11:57
tzapachuaueggdfgd11:57
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jacki'm running ubuntu 5.04 and i'm trying to install java but i'm not sure of the right way to do it. I tried using dselect, apt-get and the binary installer from sun but each died with different errors11:59
jackapt-get said it couldn't find the package, sun's installer says it's   not compatible with the default package versions ..12:00
jacki'm stumped12:00
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carthikThePyromaniac, thanks - i know it is something stupid, but it is late already, and I cant figure things out clearly :)12:01
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ThePyromaniac^^12:01
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jacki tried this command : "apt-get install sun-j2re1"12:02
Zeke1what do i need to install to get 'make' to work in ubuntu...im using a make file to run a c++ program12:02
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jackwhich kicked: apt-get install sun-j2re1.12:02
monarse12:02
jackerrum kicked the error : E: Couldn't find package sun-j2re112:03
Tomcat_Zeke1: build-essential should be enough12:03
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monhello12:03
jacki checked my apt sources, which included universe and multiuniverse12:03
Zeke1TokenBad,  build-essential?12:03
Tomcat_Zeke1 Tomcat_, ok but thats like a VNC viewer...isnt there some type of Remote desktop client fro ubuntu? <--- Err... the VNC viewer is the remote desktop client... or what do you mean? :>12:03
mahanguis there a util for gnome that will let me switch between workspaces the way OSX does it?12:04
jackwhich repositories does this "sun-j2rl" existing?12:04
Tomcat_jack: You either need to create your own java package (most people here can help you do this), or you can use the unofficial java package.12:04
Tomcat_jack: hoary or breezy?12:04
Zeke1Tomcat_,  no i see now...i just thought maybe ubuntu has another way cause WinXP has its built in remote desktop client...you dont need to install vnc12:04
jackTomcat_, : hoary12:04
Tomcat_Zeke1: Yeah, as I said... it's somhow possible to use that too, I just don't have any idea how it works. :)12:05
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Zeke1Tomcat_,  how the winXp stuff works or how ubuntu connects to it?12:05
Tomcat_jack: http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/ <--- hoary-extras has packages for Java12:05
Tomcat_Zeke1: If the WinXP stuff is enabled by default or how to enable it, and how to connect to it.12:06
Tomcat_Zeke1: But if you figured it out, great. :)12:06
jackTomcat_, : nods, yeah I expected that I might have to either use someone else's built package or build my own, i did trie to build my own package but ran into different breakdowns ...12:06
Zeke1Tomcat_,  no havent figured it out yet....12:06
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Tomcat_jack: It's usually very easy... just get the official java installer, install "java-package", then sudo fakeroot, make-jpkg <installer>, and you got a package. :)12:08
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Tomcat_jack: But the backports java packages are good too.12:08
jackeyah, let me double check my installs for "java-package" i think i did follow those instructions ...12:08
ice_1963good morning tomcat_12:09
Tomcat_Good morning, ice_1963.12:10
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ice_1963will w32codecs install in Debian sid?12:11
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ice_1963from ubuntu12:12
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ice_1963hmm12:12
Jowishould be safe12:13
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kanwarhi anyone volunteer to help a sort of *newbie* to configure a small LAN / internet gateway?12:13
kanwarboth machines are running kubuntu ...12:13
astighello...12:13
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astigis there a help-line for ubuntu12:13
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astighelp-channel on ubuntu?12:14
Jowikanwar, what kind of gateway? do you plan to use a router (easiest solution) or one of the PCs as a gateway?12:14
carthikastig this is it12:14
Jowiastig, i think this is it :)12:14
kanwarastig, one of the PCs as gateway ...12:14
kanwarsorry jowi12:14
astigthanks12:15
astigmy problem is... can i share ubuntu printer to windows user?12:15
Jowikanwar, well, gateway PC needs two nics. NIC1 = internet connection, NIC2 = LAN connection.12:15
kanwaron the 'gateway' PC i have two NICs configured -- one points to the internet and the other to my second computer (via a crossover cable)12:15
jackyup, i do have the "java-package" installed ... so i su to a non-root user to build my fakeroot12:16
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rambo3what12:16
kanwarjowi, on the second computer, i have one NIC which is also setup correctly (static ip, and visible in ifconfig)12:16
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Jowikanwar, seems like a good start. what are all the nics ipaddresses?12:16
kanwarhowever, i am unable to ping one computer from the other12:17
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deFryskjack got fakeroot installed ?12:17
Jowikanwar, yeah. pc1's got connection to internet. got it. what are the lan nics ip addresses?12:17
jackdeFrysk, yes i do12:17
kanwarjowi, okay here goes: the gateway machine has a dhcp based ip address on the internet NIC and a static one (192.168.1.10) on the local one12:17
jackI got this error ...12:18
deFryskjack, got the jave.bin file ?12:18
kanwaralso, the second comp has a static ip of 192.168.1.112:18
jackerror: http://paste.lisp.org/display/1206212:18
deFryskjava.in*12:18
jackdeFrysk, yes12:18
jackerrum12:18
jackuncertain12:18
deFryskjack, fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] 12:18
Jowikanwar, and what subnet?12:18
ice_1963i have bin12:18
deFryskjack, download the .bin file from java.sun.com12:18
kanwar255.255.255.012:18
astiganyone... can i share printers ubuntu12:19
jackyeah i did: http://paste.lisp.org/display/1206212:19
jacki have the file already, /opt/packages/jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586-rpm.bin12:19
deFryskjack, NOT the rpm.bin12:19
jackoh12:19
rambo3tar12:19
kanwarjowi, actually i should take a step back and say that this problem crops up each time the machines are booted in a debian based distro ...12:19
deFryskthe .bin (without rpm)12:19
kanwarI also have Suse installed on both machines and it works fine then12:20
Jowikanwar, so, pc1: 192.168.1.10 is connected to pc2: 192.168.1.1 ?12:20
ice_1963ok12:20
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kanwarjowi, yes12:20
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Jowikanwar, have you got it to work before? it get messed up only after reboot?12:20
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astignobody answering me12:21
ThePyromaniacanyone know how i can move my windows installation from one HD to this HD and make it dual bootable? ^^12:21
kanwarjowi, no i have never seen it work yet with ubuntu/kubuntu/xandros or a combination of these on the two machines12:21
Jowiastig, short answer: yes12:21
astigjowi: how?12:22
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Jowikanwar, ok. are you pinging using hostnames or are you pinging via ip addresses?12:22
Jowiastig, the long answer i have not even tried since i have no windows box to try with....12:22
kanwarfor instance, if i have ubuntu running on the gateway box (the one i am writing from), then if there's either ubuntu or xandros on the second comp, it does not work12:22
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Jowi!printershare12:22
ubotuNot a clue, Jowi12:22
kanwari.e. i cannot ping one computer from the other12:22
astiganyone has experience sharing printer on windows?12:23
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Jowikanwar, try to change 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.1.212:23
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Jowikanwar, usually, .1 is the gateway itself12:23
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kanwarjowi, hold on, i'll do it right now and let you know ...12:24
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ice_1963if ubuntu remove java from there /etc/apt/sources.list it's going to be fun12:24
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vinboyhi12:25
kanwarjowi, hmm i changed it but nothing yet ...12:25
vinboywhat does it mean by software package that can't be authenticated?12:25
kanwarstill getting Destination host unreachable12:25
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kanwarjowi, netstat shows my default route pointing to 192.168.1.10, as I gather it should12:25
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Jowikanwar, correct12:26
Jowikanwar, can you ping the gateway?12:26
kanwarjowi, what i wonder is: is this a debian thing??12:26
kanwarnope12:26
Jowikanwar, no, there is something that is set up wrong.12:27
Jowikanwar, need to pinpoint it12:27
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kanwarjowi, okay. btw i can ping the network i.e. 192.168.1.012:27
Jowikanwar, yeah. which ip have you set up as the gateway?12:28
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Zeke1anybody do c++ and opengl....i am running a program with a makefile and i get this error: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXmu12:28
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kanwaron the non-gateway computer, i have the ip of the gateway box as the gateway IP12:29
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Nermallo beezly  :)12:30
Jowikanwar, ah. hmmm.12:30
beezlyNermal: lo12:30
Jowikanwar, hang on.12:30
beezlyNermal: I still got the cool reverse DNS :)12:30
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ThePyromaniacanyone know how i can move my windows install from one HD to another?12:31
hutgyrrwhen you su root is the only way to go back to prev user by su prevuser or id there a logoff flag or anything12:31
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hutgyrr* or is12:31
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kanwarjowi, sure, take your time.12:32
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zakamewhat's the best way to migrate saved mboxes coming from one distro to another?12:32
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Jowikanwar, this might be a stupid question. if you have firestarter installed, maybe you sort of forgot to enable ip-forwarding?12:35
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kanwarjowi, okay ... just been hunting on the internet again. It appears that although the card on my second computer shows as configured, it might not be the correct driver12:36
kanwarits a Yukon sk98lin card12:37
heatxsinkhas anyone got a pcmcia card to compact flash card reader working in ubuntu?  Mine seems to mount the partition on the card, and then nautilis goes beserk, the window opens then closes and then will not mount the partition!!12:37
Jowiso it should use the sk98lin module12:37
kanwarhowever, i am still puzzled since i can ping the card itself12:37
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kanwaryeah, but i cannot see it in lsmod12:37
kanwardoing modprobe sk98lin did not work12:37
jackdeFrysk: I got the true bin file without the rpm part and its moving forward again, horra, thanks for point me in the right direction!12:37
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kanwari checked /lib/modules ... etc but did not find the driver12:37
deFryskjack, yw :)12:38
Jowikanwar, it might have a different chipset in it. if it can ping itself it should be ok.12:38
jackI was seriously stuck (dump i know) thanks again everyone :)12:38
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Jowikanwar, lets say that nic1 is your internet connection and nic2 is beside nic1 on the gateway pc. Nic3 is the standalone pc. which nic are you talking about, nic1, 2 or 3?12:40
Zeke1anyboyd use c++ and openGL12:40
kanwar312:40
kanwarnic312:40
Jowikanwar, ok, then we are thinking the same.12:40
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kanwarjowi, that's what's puzzling me ... as I said, it works perfectly if I start SuSE on both computers !!12:42
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Jowikanwar, i bet it is not a driver problem. since you can ping the network there is a misconfiguration on either Nic2 or nic3.12:43
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Jowikanwar, firewalls installed?12:43
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Raptoidselamlar.12:45
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kanwarjowi, firewall is installed on the gateway PC12:46
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Jowikanwar, which one? firestarter?12:48
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Jowikanwar, found a great page: http://www.fs-security.com/docs/connection-sharing.php12:50
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Nermalbeezly: :)12:51
Anak1nhi12:51
Anak1ncan someone help me12:51
Anak1n?12:51
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naliothAnak1n: if you ask a question12:51
fanopanicSince upgrading to breezy I miss about 80% of all icons... is there a known solution to that problem?12:51
JowiAnak1n, ask and you might be lucky that someone can. if you don't ask the question no one could12:51
Anak1nwhat to do12:52
Anak1nwith12:52
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Anak1npkg.deb12:52
Anak1nhow to install it12:52
Anak1n:S12:52
fanopanicdpkg -i pkg.deb12:52
kanwarok, i think its not firestarter or any other package ... its a script i got off the net12:52
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kanwarlet me check that page, jowi ... thanks for the link12:52
Anak1ni download12:52
Anak1nopera12:52
Jowikanwar, use firestarter. really easy solution.12:52
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Feleshello all, in need of a little help here12:53
Jowi!info firestarter12:53
ubotufirestarter: (gtk program for managing and observing your firewall), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.0.1-1ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 518 kB, Installed size: 2348 kB12:53
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bzimagefeles.. so ask!12:53
bzimage:)12:53
FelesI tried installing Ubuntu on a box that already had Windows XP on it, and decided to quit once it came to the formatting of partitions... (quitting the installer completely,) but now I can't boot back into Win XP12:54
ccookeFeles: did you tell it to use all the disk?12:54
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Felesno12:54
inc|freakywhen i do ./configure it says: configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check --> what package am i missin?12:54
Anak1nthanks12:55
Anak1nit's working12:55
Anak1n:)))12:55
FelesI said to "forget" all the changes to the partitions12:55
Felesand no12:55
FelesI told it not to touch the windows partition12:55
FelesActually I told it to "forget" the changes, then I Ctrl-Alt-Del'd out of the installer12:56
kanwarjowi, okay let me try firestarter then ...12:57
kanwarthanks for all your help so far :)12:57
rambo3Feles : insert xp cd -> repair XP -> login as admin -> type FIXMBR12:57
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rambo3if you still have XP on that is ,12:57
Jowikanwar, that page make it very easy, step by step. i think that the script you have is not enabling ip forwarding properly. you're welcome12:58
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Mr-FalkorThere has been alot of xserver upgrades these last days12:58
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Mr-FalkorI`ve had a xserver upgrade every day :S12:58
Mr-Falkoris that normal ?12:58
Mr-Falkoror is it just me ?12:58
rambo3just you12:59
Mr-Falkorhumm12:59
kanwarjowi, okay i am currently installing firestarter ... i will follow the steps on the link you gave12:59
Mr-FalkorMy apt gotta me fuck`d up then12:59
LivingTargetyeah xserver gets upgraded quite a lot, same for openoffice. It's about 100meg a day. I suppose you gotta really only update once a month01:00
MicksaI have a question about ooo calc01:00
Micksawhere should I go for that?01:00
LivingTargeton breezy of course01:00
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Mr-Falkoroh,.. good - my apt isnt fuck`d up =p01:00
JowiMr-Falkor, ubuntu is tailoring all the updates to fit you personally. it's the next big thing in "automatic updates" ;) but on the serious side, yes, Xorg has been through some bugfixing01:00
Mr-Falkor;P01:01
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Jowicrap, i forgot my coffee, now it's cold.01:01
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Mr-Falkor=/01:01
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Mr-Falkorwell well,.. gotta go down to my GF now ;)01:02
Mr-Falkorc ya01:02
Jowicu01:02
tzapachuaui have installed VLC in my ubuntu and there is no audio.01:03
Jowitzapachuau, try "killall esd"01:03
tzapachuauok01:03
naliothubotu: tell tzapachuau about sound01:03
tzapachuauworks01:04
tzapachuau:)01:04
kanwarjowi, i started the firewall on the gateway PC but the situation is still the same ... do i have to install/configure it on the second computer as well?01:04
tzapachuauthanks alot01:04
Feleshrm.... logging into the repair console and typing FIXMBR didn't seem to work01:04
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Jowikanwar, nope. but you might need to restart the network on it01:04
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naliothFeles: go to bootdisk.com and get you a win98 boot cd image01:05
kemikFeles:  since you're not using ubuntu, it's a windows issue :P01:05
Feleslol01:05
intelikeyhow hard is it to upgrade ubuntu to debian ?01:05
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alexandrostzapachuau: you need to install the esound plugin01:06
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naliothintelikey: it's not hard01:06
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naliothintelikey: it's impossible01:06
kemikintelikey:  i protest the use of "upgrade to debian"01:06
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Jowitzapachuau, esd plugin needed for vlc if you want to use that, or go with alsa all the way on the system01:06
kemikintelikey:  and you'd have to reinstall01:06
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tzapachuaualexandros, i guess its already installed01:06
tzapachuau:)01:06
intelikey</troll?>    :)01:06
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tzapachuaui have installed xmms before01:06
[bugi] hello ubunters01:06
tzapachuaumaybe that have installed it01:06
alexandrostzapachuau: it is separate from the vlc install01:07
kanwarjowi, okay will reboot that machine now ...01:07
rambo3hell i would you debian too if sarge kernel supported my hardware01:07
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inc|freakywhat package are the x includes in?01:07
alexandrostzapachuau: I have to install it in to get sound from vlc01:07
Jowiinc|freaky, xserver-xorg01:07
naliothinc|freaky: xlibs-dev and xlibs-static-dev01:07
Jowioh, the includes01:07
Jowisorry01:07
tzapachuaui just did killall esd01:07
FelesI can't find a win 98 boot cd image....01:07
tzapachuauand it works fine now01:07
inc|freakythank you! :)01:07
naliothFeles: it's there (any windows 9x boot floppy image will work)01:08
inc|freakyand where are the qt headers and libraries (which package?)01:08
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rambo3if FIXMBR didnt work, he doeasnt need win 9x boot floppy01:09
naliothinc|freaky: open your synaptic and search for "-dev" and find what you need01:09
naliothrambo3: i have found FIXMBR to be useless01:09
inc|freakyim all new to ubuntu (using kubuntu)01:09
naliothinc|freaky: then use kynaptic01:09
inc|freakythx nalioth :) ill use apt-cache search -dev01:10
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naliothinc|freaky: you'll get more than you bargained for. better to use synaptic/kynaptic01:10
intelikeyi've heard that "ntfs" doesn't use MBR   like fatXX did.01:10
inc|freakyok will do01:10
Jowikanwar, "sudo /etc/init.d/network restart" is quicker :)01:10
kanwaroh okay ... :)01:11
naliothintelikey: it doesnt. but if grub or lilo is living in the MBR, windows wont load if grub/lilo gets foobared01:11
inc|freakyany1 got a cig? i have none left :(01:12
inc|freaky;)01:12
jackdun dun dun, ok i'm back :D ... so i got java built and installed and now i'm trying to install azureus via the hoary-backports but i'm getting this wierd error ...01:12
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intelikeythe problem described, "[ctrl] [alt] [del]  out of partitioner" would not have gotten to the point of installing any boot loader.01:13
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jacklibswt-gtk-3.1-jni (01:13
jackThe following packages have unmet dependencies:01:13
jackazureus: Depends: libswt-gtk-3.1-java but it is not installable01:13
jackE: Broken packages01:13
intelikeymore likely that an ntfs partition is awax'd .01:14
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Echelon-Hwith what program can i burn mp3s to Audio CD?01:14
JowiEchelon-H, graveman does it all01:14
CzarAlexim trying to install TKMoo-light and it reqires me to edit the make file to point to the location of my WISH file. I think I'm doing it right.. /usr/bin/wish8.4 but when i `make` it cannot be found in that directory, even though when i search for wish, i see it in that directory. Suggestions?01:14
ice_1963k3b and gnomebaker01:15
naliothjack: what kind of java did you install?01:15
intelikeyCzarAlex: have you tried path without the file name ?01:15
naliothCzarAlex: did you open a terminal and type "which wish" ?01:15
jacknalioth, sun's linux installer + fakeroot (build a deb pkg) and install via dpkg01:16
kanwarokay jowi, here's what happened in the last 5-6 minutes that i was away: I restarted kubuntu on the second computer but it did not work ....01:16
xcsdsomeone here with breezy and workin ati drivers?01:16
naliothjack: quit with backports..they're evil01:16
CzarAlexintelikey, No, there are `examples` in the make file and they all point to the path with name.01:16
kanwarhowever, i restarted it in SUSE and it worked!!!01:16
CzarAlexnalioth, oo no i didnt. one second.01:16
naliothjack: go to azureus.sourceforge.net and pick the one of your choice01:16
kanwari guess it points to the driver then, let me try and install it now01:16
ice_1963dpkg -i then the file01:16
jacknalioth, ok, i will, thanks ofr the pointer01:16
xcsdnalioth, backports are great01:17
tzapachuaui have installed amarok01:17
CzarAlexnalioth, usr/bin/wish01:17
tzapachuauand while the wizzard was running01:17
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BiSK-8hello01:17
tzapachuaui was playing VLC01:17
Jowikanwar, oh dear oh dear. so it might be either driver or wierd setup on nic3 then. good to know that at least your gateway is configged ok!01:17
BiSK-8i got a bit of a problem01:17
tzapachuaunow i have the same sound prob01:17
tzapachuaukillall esd01:17
tzapachuaudid not help01:17
Felesnalioth I... can't seem to find CD images ... I can find floppy images... but I don't have floppy drives on both computers01:17
naliothCzarAlex: then use that path01:17
BiSK-8i updated my ubuntu, but nothing happened01:17
BiSK-8its all the same01:17
kemikxcsd:  the idea of backports is great... but that backports keep breaking things aint great01:17
naliothFeles: got a livecd?01:17
Felessorry about that01:18
CaiN_SAlol BiSK-801:18
Felesnalioth of ubuntu? yes?01:18
kanwarjowi, yeah ... thanks to you!!01:18
Feleser... yes I do01:18
BiSK-8ur laffin' im cryin'01:18
xcsdok01:18
CzarAlexnalioth, I have been and even when i make, it cannot be found. shall I post the output?01:18
tzapachuauin the configure/engine01:18
CaiN_SABiSK-8, what did you think will happen ?01:18
tzapachuaui have only01:18
naliothFeles: load it and fdisk /mbr01:18
Felesokie doke01:18
tzapachuauaRts Engine01:18
kanwarif i can get it working soon enough i'll let you know ...01:18
Felesbrb01:18
tzapachuauwhich did not play my mp301:18
naliothCzarAlex: to a pastebin please01:18
intelikeyBiSK-8: what did you update ubuntu to?  debian ?  :)01:18
alexandrostzapachuau: afterwards you have to select for the audio output01:18
BiSK-8another logon page cain_sa01:18
Jowitzapachuau, esd is a sound daemon. either you use esd or alsa. it is a mess using them both at the same time.01:18
CaiN_SABiSK-8, rofl01:18
Echelon-Hhave anyone had any success running ventrilo ?01:18
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BiSK-8no, i updated from hoary 2 breezy01:19
tzapachuauokay01:19
tzapachuaubut i cant use esd now01:19
tzapachuauits not in the option01:19
CzarAlexnalioth, of course. here is the top half of the make file. http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/263001:19
CaiN_SABiSK-8, their basicly the same :(01:19
xcsddont use esd01:19
xcsdit sux01:19
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BiSK-8why, is it possibile 2 update 2 debian?01:19
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CaiN_SABiSK-8, no01:19
BiSK-8argh01:19
BiSK-8ok01:19
temperboihello, can someone help me? new to linux.01:20
CaiN_SAit will break everything01:20
xcsdits possible, but dont try this at home :)01:20
CaiN_SAtemperboi, with what ?01:20
intelikeyBiSK-8: you missed a bit on that eariler....  :)01:20
Jowitzapachuau, "esd" or "sudo esd"  should start it again01:20
temperboitrying to install xmms but it say GLIB missing01:20
tzapachuauok01:20
CzarAlexnalioth, Now. I've been adding a line under WISH8.3= /usr/local/bin/wish8.3 . to WISH8.4= /usr/bin/wish8.401:20
naliothCzarAlex: and you've run the ./configure and it errors out?01:20
temperboiand like i installed all the stuff in development01:20
BiSK-8so, in the wiki page, i did all it says, then step 2, ti gives me error01:20
CzarAlexnalioth, install directions dont mention ./configure01:20
Jowitzapachuau, i would suggest not using esd at all though. i removed it and is only using alsa instead.01:20
BiSK-8and i am sudo01:21
naliothCzarAlex: the makefile looks to me like it is pretty well cut and dried01:21
temperboiuhmm.. can i paste links to screenshots? i take them while installing,.01:21
ice_1963hello sudo01:21
tzapachuaui did esd01:21
tzapachuauthen there is a sound01:21
CzarAlexnalioth, lemme run it and post output01:21
tzapachuaubut amarok did not work01:21
ice_1963how are you lol01:21
BiSK-8-.-01:21
BiSK-8-.-'01:21
BiSK-8-.-"01:22
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temperboiCaiN_SA, can you check this is the screenshot, http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/5568/glib4ej.jpg01:22
temperboihttp://img172.imageshack.us/img172/3541/glib24le.jpg01:22
CzarAlexnalioth, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/263101:22
Jowitzapachuau, are you in kde now? there's a #kubuntu01:22
tzapachuaunot in KDE01:22
tzapachuaugnome i suppose01:22
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ice_1963gnome is the best01:23
naliothCzarAlex: it built. is there a problem with it?01:23
intelikeyice_1963: cause why ?01:23
tzapachuaui think i'll better use xmms01:23
tzapachuau:)01:23
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CzarAlexnalioth, yes. I can't find it to run? would I just type tkmoo-light or tkmoo in to the run command? either one doesnt work for me.01:24
ice_1963ok kde is better01:24
Jowitzapachuau, ah, very well. "killall esd" + gnome->system->prefs->sound: untick "enable sound server at startup" + gnome->system->prefs->multimedia something: default output sink: ALSA. then tell your programs to use alsa instead of esd. solution = perfect :)01:24
ice_1963:0)01:25
naliothCzarAlex: in the terminal you built from, type ./tkmoo or ./tkmoo-light (tab completion is your friend)01:25
intelikeyice_1963: cause why ?01:25
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CzarAlexnalioth, thats the * right?01:25
naliothyou guys can take your interface discussions to #ubuntu-offtopic01:25
ice_1963it's linux ok01:25
naliothCzarAlex: whats the *?01:25
Felesand back.... in ubuntu live boot... and nalioth, ubuntu is unable to open /mbr01:25
naliothFeles: use sudo?01:25
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Felesnope, still unable to01:26
CaiN_SAsigh temperboi , why you compiling xmms ?01:26
CzarAlexnalioth, Oo it worked. Sorry. Wrong usage of * . thanks for your help this morning.01:26
naliothFeles: the missing floppy drive is gonna be the death of us all01:26
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Felesgreeeeat01:26
tzapachuauit seems my xmms is frozen01:26
intelikeynalioth: just kick me out of here.  i don't use ubuntu anyway....01:26
naliothCzarAlex: is there an install script in there?01:26
temperboiCaiN_SA, why not?01:27
Jowitzapachuau, yeah, better quit all programs before making all the sound changes.01:27
ice_1963windowmaker is better01:27
CzarAlexnalioth, actually there is. make install . do I need to run that even though i can get the prog to run?01:27
Jowiice_1963, WM rocks.01:27
aris[glande] hello people. I am trying to download the whole dependancies needed for runing "geda" on a ubuntu box at home which has no internet connection. How may I list the deps ? (I am running on an other ubuntu box but not sure some deps are already installed and won't be downloaded by apt-get -d)01:27
nalioth!tell CzarAlex about checkinstall01:27
tzapachuaueven this xchat?01:27
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naliotharis[glande] : use apt-zip01:27
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Jowitzapachuau, not if it not use any sound events you don't have to01:28
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aris[glande] nalioth, didn't know about it. just going to see01:28
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CzarAlexnalioth, ok thank you.01:28
Felesis there any way of working around the missing disk drive?01:28
havocnalioth: slick :)01:28
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temperboiCaiN_SA, still here?01:28
skjslhow do i install java in apt01:28
havochmm, no apt-zip :(01:28
skjslit say it not there01:28
aris[glande] hmm apt-zip is not installed on this computer01:28
skjsl:(01:29
naliothCzarAlex: if you compile a lot of your own stuff, checkinstall is your friend when it comes time for system maintenance01:29
aris[glande] and i cannot install it due to strange apt rules01:29
havocaris[glande] : apt-get install apt-zip01:29
havocbah01:29
JowiFeles, my suggestion would be to go through with the ubuntu install. you can resize the win partition there and probably make it all work fine.01:29
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tzapachuauthanks guys01:29
tzapachuauwith your help01:29
tzapachuauits nice to play with Ubuntu (Linux)01:30
aris[glande] havoc, the admins have set a local repository directory and it's not mounted01:30
temperboican i be next in the help list? :(01:30
tzapachuauNow i really agree that linux can do something than just a system Beep01:30
naliothFeles: waht was your original question? i just assumed you wanted to clean your /mbr01:30
CzarAlexnalioth, heh and I need friends when using linux :0 thanks again.01:30
FelesI wanted to be able to boot back into Windows.01:30
Felesnot just clean it01:30
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kemiktemperboi:  what's the error?01:30
naliothCzarAlex: got a whole room of em01:30
kemikFeles:  call windows-support :P01:30
aris[glande] hmm just downed them by hand. I hope I won't miss any package01:30
naliothFeles: cleaning the /mbr will bring back a windows only system01:31
temperboihttp://img172.imageshack.us/img172/3541/glib24le.jpg  << screenshot of glib error01:31
havocnalioth: even NT/2K/XP?01:31
JowiFeles, go through with the install of ubuntu. you will in the end get a bootloader that possibly can boot your windows partition.01:31
naliotharis[glande] : in a terminal, type "apt-cache showpkg <pkgname>" and it'll show you the packages necessary01:31
Feleslol the possibly isn't very reassuring01:31
Felesbut I suppose I'll try to go through with it.01:31
kemiktemperboi:  "sudo apt-get install libglib1.2-dev"01:31
FelesThanks guys.01:31
JowiFeles, well, since you aborted and it failed, that is my best bet01:32
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naliothhavoc: windows doesnt use the /mbr01:32
Felesyeah01:32
kemiktemperboi:  i'm assuming youve installed "build-essential" aswell since you seem to have the compilers etc installed01:32
havocnalioth: oh yeah, first bootable drive is where it's bootloader goes01:32
ice_1963what is window's01:32
Feleswell, be back in a lil while, hopefully.01:32
temperboikemik, thanks, but i have installed everything in development.01:32
skjslcould anyone tell me why apt no longer has java?01:32
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skjslI mean the ubnutu reposotorys01:32
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johnnybezakanyone know of a good howto for rsync w/ ssh01:33
naliothskjsl: distribution legalities01:33
naliothskjsl: which java did you want?01:33
havocjohnnybezak: yes, hang on01:33
athatemperboi: why are you compiling the xmms, isn't the packaged xmms good enough?01:33
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BiSK-8how can i uninstall xmms?01:33
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skjslnalioth: I just want the runtime j2r**bla01:33
humulusapt-get remove xmms01:33
naliothBiSK-8: apt-get remove xmms01:33
naliothskjsl: hoary or breezy?01:33
BiSK-8k01:33
kemiktemperboi:  try libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2  and libg++2.8.1.3-glibc2.201:33
havocjohnnybezak: I use a setup very similar to this: http://www.jdmz.net/ssh/01:33
BiSK-8thx01:33
temperboiatha, i cant install it01:33
kemikmaybe01:34
athatemperboi: why, what's the matter with it01:34
kemiktemperboi:  what's the error on apt-getting xmms ?01:34
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ice_1963xmms and streamtuner rock's01:35
AnThonyhelllo01:35
temperboiim tryinh to install it in a computer with no internet so i guess it didnt find it.. so i downloaded another package and try compiliing it. its what i read from forums tho.01:35
athaice_1963: could you please stop that mindless babble about "this and that rocks"01:35
ice_1963with sid that is01:35
Jowihello AnThony01:36
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kemiktemperboi:  you should have downloaded the deb from the ubuntu rep's01:36
temperboiyes, that the deb file.. do i need to unzip it or i run the apt-get install?01:37
kemikdpkg -i file.deb01:37
BiSK-8are there any programs 4 ubuntu that support a usb bluetooth device since its made for windows?01:37
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athaBiSK-8: I guess that it's supported out of the box01:38
BiSK-8what?01:38
BiSK-8what does that mean?01:38
athajust plug it in, and run "hciconfig" to see information about the device01:38
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naliothBiSK-8: wants to know where the bluetooth manager is01:38
xiaogilIs there an atlas freeware for linux ?01:38
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BiSK-8ok01:39
skjslnalioth: hoary01:39
BiSK-8i ran hciconfig01:39
BiSK-8now what?01:39
temperboii have installed ubuntu in another computer with no internet, so is it possible to download the source and change to repositories to my disk directory?01:39
naliothskjsl: http://www.giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/   have fun01:39
jacknalioth : i got it up and running np, thanks again01:39
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naliothjack: great!01:40
BiSK-8atha, nalioth, now what?01:40
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athaBiSK-8: what do you want to do with it?01:40
kemiktemperboi:  if you can retrieve the files from a disk, just use Dpkg01:40
BiSK-8send files 2 another bluetooth device atha01:40
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temperboiok thanks..01:40
athadid the hciconfig show that it's running ok (UP RUNNING etc. line in the output and address and all)01:40
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BiSK-8atha: i wanna send files 2 another bluetooth device01:41
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BiSK-8atha, are you here?01:43
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skjslnalioth:  Thanks heaps :)! whats the brezzy one for future use01:45
BiSK-8nalioth, can u help me?01:45
naliothskjsl: http://giannaros.org/tor/bt/01:45
skjsl:D01:45
naliothBiSK-8: i can only recommend asking uncle google for "linux bluetooth manager" or something like that (i have no bluetooth or ideas)01:45
BiSK-8ok01:46
BiSK-8thx01:46
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MrLaminarhi01:49
MrLaminarhow can i copy tahoba*.ttf from my windows installation to ubuntu and enable it?01:49
MrLaminaroopps... tahoma*.ttf01:50
JowiMrLaminar, i guess you just put it somewhere in /usr/share/fonts01:51
JowiMrLaminar, there is also a way to make the font only available to a specific user by placing it in /home/user/.fonts01:52
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athaBiSK-8: are you sending to a mobile phone or what?01:52
athaor another linux computer or windows?01:52
MrLaminarthanks jowi, do i have to update anything else?01:52
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Jowiit takes awhile for the font to get updated01:53
MrLaminarok, it did now01:53
MrLaminarthx01:53
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JowiMrLaminar, should be automatic.... i think... ehhhh.01:53
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Jowi:)01:53
athaBiSK-8: check that you have "gnome-bluetooth" package installed "sudo apt-get install gnome-bluetooth"01:53
Tooheyscan anyone tell me if I install ubuntu can I still use my bluetooth adapter?01:53
Tooheysohh hehehe what timing!01:54
athaafter that, you can send files from command line using "gnome-obex-send filename" and a GUI appears which shows other bluetooth devices01:54
gorillahi all, does anyone know of a pastebin that allows you to attach binaries (images).01:54
housetierimgshack or so allows to post images01:55
athaI think I saw a nautilus extension sometimes which provided a rigth-click context menu entry for bluetooth sending01:55
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glickexcuse me, im trying to run a progam and i get this error message01:55
glickQt: Locales not supported on X server01:55
glickcannot handle file 'libc.so.6' with TLS data01:55
glickdoes anyone know what thats all about>01:56
Jowigorilla, you can host them on your freshly installed apache webserver :)01:56
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gorillaJowi, I though of that... Not when I am behind a ADSL modem that is a piece of shit.. but stuck with it...01:57
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Eddy_hello01:58
Jowigorilla, ah. point taken.01:58
coobralol01:58
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Eddy_anyone to help me with a problem involving GRUB/MBR/ubuntu install on a laptop comp ? been spending 5 hours on it and still stuck =/01:59
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JowiEddy_, be more precise ...01:59
glickhey can linux run programs for macOSX?01:59
Eddy_well it's quite long, that's why i'm not more specific01:59
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JowiEddy_, what is the symptoms and where did it fail your boot?02:00
dmacdonald111Hi all. I have managed to get ubuntu to register lo & eth0 as it registers correctly, but I still seem to be unable to connect to the internet with the wireless lan. Can anyone help?02:00
Eddy_i installed breezy over hoary, asking the partitions to be formatted. it did, but when it tried to install GRUB, it failed. i rebooted, and GRUB is missing (Error 15). so i tried to install again, but then it doesn't find my partitions, it only displays "??? ???". using the RIP tool, though, it DOES find my partitions, so all hope is not lost. but i need help to make the install working (finding my partitions)02:00
kemikEddy_:  since you've no stuff on your partitions, just make a clean install again02:01
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kemikwith hoary02:01
Jowidmacdonald111, wireless lan... are you connecting to a  router or does it go through another computer?02:01
kemikand wait for breezy to be released02:01
dmacdonald111Jowi: Its through a router.02:02
Jowidmacdonald111, can you ping the router?02:02
Eddy_kemik it is very possible that this won't solve the problem, so i don't feel like going through 10 hours of download just to reinstall hoary, and to have to install breezy all over again in two weeks02:02
dmacdonald111Jowi: No. I mean, I know how to do it, but it doesn't ping.02:03
kemikkeep forgetting not everyone have 10mbit internetaccess02:03
Jowidmacdonald111, do you recieve an ip address from the router or have you configured the card to a static address?02:03
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hutgyrrif I was in depth in the filesystem say /var/lib/program/com/file and then I changed to /tmp, is there a quic way to go back to that long directory?02:04
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glickdamn im trying to run this IC program with no successs02:04
johnnybezakbloody hell i've got debian on my server, i want to put ubuntu on it so bad02:04
Eddy_Jowi any clue then ?02:04
dmacdonald111Jowi: I have tried with both a static ip address and without. Just for reference, I am currently using the livecd for mepis linux (also debian based) and I don't even need to configure here.02:05
intelikeyjohnnybezak: why ?02:05
bimberihutgyrr: cd $OLDPWD02:05
JowiEddy_, not really....02:05
hutgyrrbimberi: neat02:05
johnnybezakintelikey: packages mainly. everything i want ubuntu just has, debian doesn't. i'm just used to ubuntu i suppose, the little differences are enough to give me the sh*ts02:05
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hutgyrrwhat does PWD stand for02:06
Jowidmacdonald111, what ip and subnet do you get from the router?02:06
cafuego_path working directory02:06
intelikeypresent working dir.02:06
cafuego_or that02:06
cafuego_basically, the dir you're in.02:06
hutgyrrah, and is there a way to see other variables like that02:06
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vader1102cafuego, good morning02:06
athait seems that bluetooth plugin is missing from the breezy package of nautilus-sendto - I wonder is it intentionally or unintentionally02:06
JowiEddy_, i have not tried Breezy yet02:06
cafuego_hutgyrr: type 'set'.02:06
cafuego_vader1102: evenin'02:07
vader1102lol02:07
Eddy_i don't think it's breezy related02:07
Skidhm, isn't openvpn server in apt repo's? :o02:07
Eddy_i would like to know how to reset my MBR, much like the fdisk /mbr command02:07
kemikEddy_:  that's how you do it02:07
kemikEddy_:  if you got a livecd etc02:07
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vader1102I am using Breezy right now and love it....it does what I have asked it to do. and more02:07
kemikbut i guess GRUB is fubar'ed then02:07
cafuego_!find openvpn02:07
ubotuopenvpn: (Virtual Private Network daemon), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1.99+2.rc6-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 279 kB, Installed size: 840 kB02:08
kemikvader1102:  good for you.. but that's not the case for everyone02:08
Skidserver :P02:08
Eddy_i can burn a livecd, but how would i do the "fdisk /mbr" equivalent from there ?02:08
Skidnot client02:08
Skidoh02:08
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Skidhm, wtf02:08
Eddy_"fubar'ed" ? sorry, not english =)02:08
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vader1102kemik, I know....just had to put in my 2 cents worth..I will be quiet now02:08
Skidfubar was a term used in WW2 (or 1 now can't remember) meaning f**ked up beyond all recognision02:08
hutgyrrwhat kind of use could you have to mess around with a VPN at home02:08
kemikEddy_:  fucked up beyond all recognition02:08
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Eddy_oh that02:08
Eddy_yeah, quite so02:08
Eddy_=)02:08
dmacdonald111Jowi: I get ip as 192.168.1.2. But subnet?02:09
cafuego_192.168.1.0 255.255.255.002:09
kemikEddy_:  i think you should try "reinstalling grub"02:09
bzimagec class adress... private use: subnet 255.255.255.002:09
kemikor something02:09
kemik!grub02:09
ubotuI guess grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting02:09
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Jowidmacdonald111, "ifconfig" will show you. look for "mask"02:09
Eddy_i'll look into that again, but the problem is that when i first tried to install it, within the regular ubuntu install, it CRASHED02:10
dmacdonald111Jowi: ah, 255.255.255.002:10
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Jowidmacdonald111, that is correct for your ip address02:10
Eddy_and further attempts saw it crash again02:10
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kemikEddy_:  well, that cant be good02:11
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Eddy_no, but since RIP sees the partition table correctly, that is not too bad either02:11
glickdo you guys think that the windows version of interactive C will work on wine?02:11
dmacdonald111Jowi: Currently (with mepis as I'm using now) I get lo and wlan0 from ifconfig, but in ubuntu I have lo & eth002:11
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hutgyrrwould there be a way to set your own variables up for say last three working directorys?02:11
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johnnybezakhow do I install a .deb that I've d/led02:11
johnnybezak?02:11
hutgyrrdpgk02:11
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havocdpkg -i blah.deb02:11
teenieis there a online    games for uuubuntu?02:11
ishitjuicy ripper not workin anyone any idea02:11
irvinteenie: yup02:11
johnnybezakteenie: what sort of machine do you have?02:12
ubuntuguydoes anyone know how to roll back using bazaar(bzr)?02:12
intelikeyEddy_: i have to agree with the eariler advice.   just reinstall the system.    something is "fubar"  there.02:12
teenieubuntu02:12
bimberihutgyrr: you could write your own cd command (as a shell script) to do it02:12
teeniewhat machine?02:12
Eddy_intelikey i am willing to reinstall the system, except that the system does not see any partition in the partition table, but that ominous "??? ???" line02:12
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ishitis there much difference betwen hoary n breezy02:12
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ubuntuguythe bazaar wiki doesn't cover roll back. anyone out there use bzr?02:13
ishitANYONE02:13
intelikeyso use a live cd or something and fix your partitions then reinstalllllll02:13
glickhas anyone used interactive C on linux02:13
ishithuh02:13
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Eddy_intelikey and how would i do that please ?02:14
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intelikeycfdisk02:14
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cafuego_Interactive C?02:14
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ubuntuguyanyone know where I can get more help, info or tutorial on bazaar?02:14
Jowidmacdonald111, yes. you must run iwconfig to set up the wireless part. you need wlan002:14
cafuego_hutgyrr: use the 'pushd' and 'popd' commands.02:15
Eddy_using the RIP tool, cfdisk had no option about fixing the partition table. i mean, i could mess with it, but there was nothing like "fix the mbr" or "rewrite the mbr" or whatnot02:15
ubuntuguythis is all I can find http://bazaar.canonical.com/Documentation#head-ddbe42596fd234725872d19faa85c3cf28301c3402:15
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Jowidmacdonald111, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto02:15
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intelikeyno not the mbr.   the partitions   then let grub take care of mbr02:16
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Eddy_intelikey what do you call "fix the partitions" then ? aas i've said, RIP recognizes them no problem, so i don't see what i'm supposed to "fix" there02:17
dmacdonald111Jowi: I have tried to use iwconfig wlan0, but I just get device not found02:17
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Jowidmacdonald111, and eth0 should not be enabled once you get the wlan configured.02:17
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Jowiubotu, tell dmacdonald111 about wireless02:17
Jowidmacdonald111, have a look at that linkn ubotu gave you.02:18
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dmacdonald111Jowi: Yes, I have been there and I need ndiswrapper (which I have) but I don't seem to be able to find the bcmwl5a.inf file. I have been searching for it for over a day now. :(02:19
intelikeyEddy_: let me see if i understand you.   when installing ub the partitioner cant find any partitions.  but "RIP" what ever that is. sees them just fine .....    and the problem is not breezy specific.....  ?    hmmm   maybe reinstall hoary ????02:19
[bugi] Hello, where can i find OOo RC1 for Hoary?02:19
glickhey how do i install a windows application with wine?02:20
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Jowidmacdonald111, can't help you there.02:20
dmacdonald111okay. Thanks for your help though :)02:20
Eddy_intelikey RIP is Recovery Is Possible, a Recovery tool that is recommended by plenty for dealing with MBR problems among other things.02:20
Eddy_and the problem arose when installing GRUB02:21
glickhow do i install a windows program with wine?02:21
Eddy_so i THINK that the problem is GRUB related02:21
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dmacdonald111Jowi: I can find it as a .exe - can I use that?02:21
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Eddy_that GRUB mucked up the partition table, and so i want to FIX IT02:21
Eddy_not install anything else02:21
cafuego_glick: wine foo.exe and cross your fingers02:21
glickhehe02:21
Jowidmacdonald111, the driver is sort of vital :) no idea about that .exe. perhaps with wine.02:21
glickthanks02:21
intelikeyso fix it.02:21
glickgod i hope this works02:22
Eddy_intelikey why do you hang here if you do that kind of answer ?02:22
dmacdonald111Thank you Jowi. I hadn't thought about wine. I shall give that a go02:22
cafuego_note that foo.exe needs to be somewhere ona  drive mapped under wine. (try /home or /tmp)02:22
cafuego_glick: What app?02:22
Eddy_i mean, i thought it was about helping people, not answering like that.02:22
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glickcafuego, interactive C02:23
glickit says it installed fine02:23
glickso where would i run it from?>02:23
teenieis there anybody who have tried turbolinux?02:23
cafuego_glick: Where did you install it to?02:24
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cafuego_glick: check .wine/c_drive/Program Files/...02:24
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glickcafuego, yeah i see it02:25
cafuego_when again wine foo.exe02:25
glickls02:25
cafuego_.02:25
cafuego_..02:25
cafuego_Password:02:26
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flux_What should i type in console to configure WINE?02:27
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intelikeywine[tab] 02:27
intelikey [tab]  = the tab key02:28
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intelikeybash tab compleation is your friend02:28
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bzimage[tab] 02:29
ayeizajedihi everyone02:29
bzimage*yay*02:29
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flux_How do i start WINE?02:29
bennohi, my ubuntu hoary gnome closes programs when i minimize them, instead of putting them to a panel-tab... whats wrong?02:30
whyameyeIs there a something like ndiswrapper for modems?02:30
Jowiflux_, you don't "start" it as such. you run exe files with it.02:30
intelikeywine <windows-program>02:30
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intelikeywine <path>/notepad.exe02:30
flux_How du i install ATC Radar Screen(its on desktop)02:30
teeniehow to play yahoo music her in ubuntu?02:30
cafuego_Well, you can use binfmt-misc and wine to tweak .exe's to run via wine automagically.02:30
teeniehow to play yahoo music her in ubuntu?02:30
teeniehow to play yahoo music her in ubuntu?02:30
cafuego_teenie: stop repeating02:31
teenieok02:31
flux_What is binfmt-misc?02:31
teenieim ssory02:31
teenieim ssory02:31
ayeizajedilol02:31
teeniehow to play yahoo music her in ubuntu?02:31
dpro\teenie, do you have mplayer?02:31
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teenienothin02:31
cafuego_flux_: a way of using file magic (see /etc/magic) to automagically run interpreted executables. So you cna say make a .jar file execitable and automatically run 'java -jar foo.jar' when you type ./foo.jar. Same applies to .exe and wine.02:32
teeniewhere i can get that/02:32
dpro\teenie, open a terminal, type sudo apt-get install mplayer-38602:32
flux_cafuego, have you MSN?02:32
glickwhen i try to set the com port in my windows app i get this...02:32
glickfixme:comm:SetupComm insize 2048 outsize 2048 unimplemented stub02:32
glickfixme:comm:SetCommState RTS_CONTROL_TOGGLE is not supported.02:32
glickIC: Serial port (pre)connected02:32
cafuego_The first two letters of that acronym should tell you...02:33
glicki guess that means im screwed right?02:33
dpro\teenie, and then in a terminal type mplayer the url to the radiostream02:33
flux_?02:33
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hutgyrrwhen you install apache on ubuntu the debian placeholder page comes up02:35
cafuego_yes02:35
flux_Is it someone speaking norwegian here?02:36
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hutgyrrwhy hasn't it been changed?02:36
dpro\flux_, jeg taler dansk hvis det kan hjlpe02:36
flux_Fint;)02:36
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flux_Vet du hvordan jeg setter opp Wine?02:36
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dpro\flux_, du har installeret det, ikke?02:37
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glickany way i can run a macOS X program in linux?02:37
flux_jo...02:37
teeniecccouldnt find the package02:37
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dpro\flux_, virker det s ikke nr du skriver wine og sti til programmet som skal kre?02:37
flux_ok02:38
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flux_Hvordan gjr jeg det ved  starte noe p skrivebordet?02:38
dpro\flux_, "wine /sti/til/filen/som/ligger/p/skrivebordet/lalalal.exe02:38
skjslwiill anyoff this http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs02:39
deFrysk!se02:39
skjslrun .mov?02:39
ubotuNo idea, deFrysk02:39
flux_/home/flux/Desktop/Setup.exe?02:39
deFrysk!norge02:39
ubotudeFrysk: Not a clue02:39
deFrysktss02:39
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flux_deFRYSk,er du norsk?02:39
dpro\flux_, ja bare med wine frst02:39
skjslsorry02:39
skjslslip of the keys02:40
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deFryskno you guys should go to #ubuntu-no or something02:40
dpro\wine /home/flux/Desktop/Setup.exe02:40
deFryskthis is ang english channel folks02:40
flux_flux@xp1700:~$ wine /home/flux/Desktop/Setup.exe02:40
flux_bash: wine: command not found02:40
skjslhttp://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs if i follow this will .movs work for me?02:40
dpro\flux_, du har installeret wine, ikke?02:41
deFryskskjsl, ubuntuguide is evil02:41
skjsllol02:41
skjsltoo true02:41
deepwoodzi'm trying to install a tarbell and every time i type su it tells me to type in my password and i type it in and it says authentication failure02:41
flux_jo... Det er installert02:41
deFryskdpro\, this is ang english only channel02:41
deepwoodzcan anyone help?02:41
whyameyeskjsl, it should, if you install mplayer and the mplayer plug-in (if you wish to watch .movs in firefox)02:41
flux_Har du MSN dpro\?02:41
deFryskflux_, please02:41
kanwarjowi, you there?02:42
Jowideepwoodz, try "sudo su"02:42
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whyameyeskjsl, I found some.movs don't play correctly, and you can also play .movs using Apple Quicktime and Wine.02:42
Jowikanwar, yep, just got back02:42
deepwoodzok thanks02:42
dpro\deFrysk, sorry02:42
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kanwarjowi, it worked!02:42
mahangugnutella, edonkey client for ubuntu?02:42
kanwari compiled and loaded sk98lin finally02:42
skjslwhyameye: will totem do it02:42
Jowisuperb kanwar :)02:42
kanwarearlier it had something like skge loaded02:42
skjslwhyameye: mplayer is unstable for me02:42
deepwoodzthanks alot02:42
kanwarhey thanks to you for helping me out ... it was quite frustrating trying to figure it out alone!02:43
Tooheysbefore i get all excited about isntalling ubunto does it recognise sata drives ?02:43
Jowikanwar, no probs. glad i could be of some use02:43
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whyameyeskjsl, yes totem will do it.02:43
kanwar*grin* now to try and install it on my Compaq nc6220 laptop and configure the wifi hehehe02:43
TooheysI tried the live cd but could not find my windows hard drives ?02:43
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Jowikanwar, you really enjoy deep troublesome waters, haha02:44
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XHKHow do i install deb files?02:44
cafuego_Tooheys: Yes, it does.02:44
kanwarjowi, that's how i plan to learn everything :)02:44
JowiXHK, dpkg -i package.deb02:44
XHKty02:44
kanwarjowi, everything that i can, that is02:45
Tooheyscafuego: cheers. where are they ?02:45
whyameyeXHK download the .deb file, then type dpkg -i <filename>02:45
cafuego_Tooheys: In your computer?  ;-)  They show up as SCSI. sda etc.02:45
Tooheyscafuego: hehe. I looked in mount and dev and couldnt seem to find anything that ressembled my windows ntfs drives ?02:45
Jowikanwar, same here :)02:45
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cafuego_!ntfs02:46
joachim_hi02:46
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cafuego_Tooheys: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab02:46
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cafuego_Tooheys: That scans for NTFS etc partitions.02:46
Tooheyscafuego does !ntfs mean out of the box the ubuntu distro won't read windows drives?02:46
Tooheysahh ok, i will try it..02:46
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cafuego_Tooheys: it will, you just need to mount 'em.02:47
kanwarthanks jowi ... i'll sign off tonight ... i am here in Sydney, Australia and its sleep time ... 11.00 pm almost02:47
XHKit will say   Package libqt3c102-mt is not installed.02:47
whyameyeI have a modem with an ESS chipset. From what I could learn on Google, ESS and Linux don't play well together. Is there a wrapper for windows drivers for modems, something like what ndiswrapper is for wireless?02:47
Jowicu kanwar02:47
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cafuego_Amazing, it's nowhere near bed time in Melbourne02:47
joachim_ which gnome package handles folder sharing?02:47
cafuego_joachim_: by default, either samba or nfs.02:48
Tooheysits 10:47pm here on the mid-north coast.. sleep is a few hours away hehe02:48
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TooheysI hope it's a Tooheys Extra Dry and not that shithouse VB you mexicans like to drink :P02:48
joachim_I don't have either installed yet -- I'm getting a 'Sharing services are not installed' warning. is that just a part of nautilus?02:48
cafuego_Speaking of which. Now's as good a time as any.02:48
Jowifor a moment there i thought "beers" was "beds"02:48
Jowilol02:49
skjslwhyameye: um what is the name of the package that runs .mov?02:49
cafuego_Tooheys: I'm a cultured European, thankyou.02:49
joachim_I want to file an enhancemnet in bugzilla02:49
cafuego_Tooheys: Not some filthy convict ;-)02:49
Tooheyscafuego: hehe wog ?02:49
cafuego_clog wog02:49
cafuego_(no aussie passport)02:49
Tooheysme too :P02:50
gorillaTooheys: a terrible aussie beer.02:50
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whyameyeskjsl, it's a codec you need. It's been awhile. If I remember right, install totem-xine and w32codecs.02:50
TooheysExtra Dry is awesome!02:51
XHKWhy i cant open mp3's?02:51
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glickcan i in anyway run a mac os X program in linux?02:51
Jowiubotu, tell XHK about mp302:51
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!lilo:*! Hi all. If you're in Houston, Texas and you have an unused Vonage telephone adapter you'd like to donate to PDPC, please message me. Thanks!02:52
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JowiXHK, extra software need to be installed. follow ubotus lead :)02:52
mjrglick, on linux/ppc, you can run mac os x under mac-on-linux. On other architectures, you may be able to use pearpc or qemu (though slowly)02:52
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glickhmm pearpc?02:52
Tooheyshey got a question, is there any .net stuff avail in linux, linux compilers, emulators or even a port of the virtual machine thinggy ?02:52
arkanesTooheys: google for mono02:53
Nermalgo-mono.com02:53
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Nermalfull .net implementation02:53
onkarshindeTooheys: I suppose Mono is partial implementation of .NET on linux02:53
Nermalpretty much02:53
onkarshinde!mono02:53
ubotuonkarshinde: I don't know, could you explain it?02:53
Tooheysinteresting!02:53
glickyeah but i have to run the entire macOS X OS for that02:53
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intelikey!stats02:54
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Nameless12 can someone tell me how to make all files in a dir automaticly be ch777 (i am sick of chmoding files in my webroot directory after i create them)02:54
Nermalumask it02:54
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Nermalumask 000 it02:55
Tooheyshaha this is ironic!! "is positioned to become the leading choice for development of Linux applications"... lmafo a MS technology becomes the leading linux tech02:55
onkarshindeubotu: mono is implementation of .NET framework on linux. It supports winforms partially. For details www.go-mono.com02:55
ubotuonkarshinde: okay02:55
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Tooheysohh so I guess web application and services etc are out of the question :(02:56
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BiSK-8hello02:56
onkarshindeTooheys: It is not about MS technology. It makes you easy to write program in your choice of language and then run it on any platform where Mono is available.02:56
onkarshindeBiSK-8: hi02:56
BiSK-8i get this error when using the ./configure option: configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool02:56
BiSK-8 , what do i need 2 install?02:56
Tooheysonkarshinde ahhhh...02:57
NermalBiSK-8: shockingly, the XML:: Parser perl module02:57
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Nermal:)02:57
athaBiSK-8: libxml-parser-perl02:57
joachim_how do I find what process a window belongs to?02:57
onkarshindeBiSK-8: What are you trying to install?02:57
BiSK-8atha, thx02:57
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intelikeyperl-xml something....02:57
BiSK-8onkarshide, the gnome-gluetooth system02:58
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athagnome-bluetooth can be installed fine with apt-get02:58
BiSK-8i know02:58
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BiSK-8i tried02:58
BiSK-8but 1 sec02:58
onkarshindeBiSK-8: Do you mean bluetooth? It can be installed with synaptic or apt-grt02:58
BiSK-8ill show u what happenes02:58
onkarshindeBiSK-8: Please don't paste here02:58
BiSK-8bluetooth02:58
BiSK-8yes02:59
BiSK-8sry02:59
BiSK-8i wont02:59
onkarshindePaste into pastebin02:59
BiSK-8its only wine02:59
BiSK-8line*02:59
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BiSK-8oh03:00
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BiSK-8it sais that its at its latest version03:00
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BiSK-8but there are 315 updates03:00
onkarshindeBiSK-8: So what is problem?03:00
BiSK-8how do i run it?03:01
Nermalapt-get upgrade ?03:01
onkarshindeIt must be somewhere in Applications menu03:01
Nermalerm.. from the gnome menu ?03:01
BiSK-8its not there03:01
BiSK-8thats what's the prob03:01
onkarshindeBiSK-8: Did you check all menus?03:01
BiSK-8yes03:01
BiSK-81sec03:02
athaso are you trying to send files or receive or what?03:02
BiSK-8ill try rebooting03:02
Nermalisn't gnome-bluetooth so you can go bluetooth:/// in nautilus ?03:02
BiSK-8both03:02
BiSK-8possibily send03:02
NermalBiSK-8: don't bother03:02
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BiSK-8dont bother?03:02
Nermalto reboot03:02
BiSK-8with what?03:02
BiSK-8oh03:02
BiSK-8there03:02
BiSK-8i tried it again03:03
Nermal go bluetooth:/// in nautilus03:03
athaBiSK-8: gnome-obex-send filename03:03
onkarshindeNermal: I had problems sometime with menu entries not getting updated after some install.03:03
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BiSK-8and its in the menu03:03
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BiSK-8so what should i do?03:03
BiSK-8upgrade?03:03
onkarshindeNermal: I think he should at least logout and logout03:03
onkarshindeI mean login03:03
BiSK-8or apt-get update03:03
Tooheyshow do linux programmers make a living, if everyone wants free software ?03:03
BiSK-8hahaha03:03
BiSK-8good question03:03
onkarshindeBiSK-8: So did you find it in Menu?03:03
apokryphosTooheys: normally it's a hobbie, but if you're real good you get money/sponsored03:03
BiSK-8yes03:04
BiSK-8i did03:04
BiSK-8but it wont open03:04
XHKWhy i dont have sounds? :S03:04
BiSK-8i'll reboot03:04
BiSK-8or log out and in03:04
BiSK-8brb03:04
Tooheysapokryphos but get money for what?03:04
athawhat doesn't open03:04
athabluetooth file sharing is just a receiving server03:04
onkarshindeBiSK-8: There must be two entries related to bluetooth. One is device manager03:04
athafrom the menu03:04
apokryphosTooheys: for being a dedicated dev; suffice it to say you have to be pretty dang good though03:04
athaand it shows in the tray area of upper panel03:04
apokryphosTooheys: all big projects get sponsors; developers in gnome, ubuntu, kde, linux kernel etc03:05
onkarshindeXHK: Can you explain the problem with detail? Which sound card?03:05
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onkarshindeTooheys: Some companies their employees to work on open source projects, because they get benefit from those projects.03:06
Tooheysapokryphos: hmm this is the one thing that turns me off. I dont have a job, and atm I'm doing mobile phone games (making a little money) but would like to support myself doing applicaion development. Linux on the otherhand really doesnt allow for this?03:06
XHKonkarshinde: nvidia sound card, yesterday was everything ok03:06
apokryphosTooheys: no; you can't really think of getting into Linux/development "for the money"03:06
onkarshindeXHK: Did you change any setting?03:06
XHKonkarshinde: No03:07
apokryphosTooheys: unless you're very good ;-). Canonical, for example, sponsors many Ubuntu developers03:07
XHKonkarshinde: When i started computer, sound was muted, i unmuted it, but still no sound03:07
onkarshindeTooheys: You can make custom applications in linux for small companies into your town.03:07
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henkhmm why apokryphos  & Tooheys why do you tink it's impossible to make comercial applications that run on linux ?03:07
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apokryphoshenk: never said it was; it sure isn't (it's been done many-a-time).03:08
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onkarshindeXHK: Are you logged in as a user who doesn't have access to sound card? Or have you checked that esd is started?03:08
XHKonkarshinde: I dont know,  I have only one user...03:09
Tooheyshmmm I just really cannot understand the motivation to dev for free, when you have a family to support etc.. and i tend to feel hobby programmers and their applications are a little short of being polished (thus soo many bugs)..03:09
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JowiXHK, did you disable the soundserver startup in gnome->system->prefs->sound ?03:09
onkarshindeXHK: can you tell me output of command 'ps-ef|grep esd' (without quotes?03:09
apokryphosTooheys: they don't *all* do it for free, but most surely do. Suffice it to say your latter point doesn't really hold up; kde and gnome are, for the majority, volunteer efforts03:09
henkapokryphos,  it seemed like you meant that getting into development of applications on linux was not profitable. Not all applications build to run on a linux machine need to be free (or open source for that matter)03:10
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XHKJowi: it is enabled03:10
apokryphoshenk: never said that, and of course you can -- yes03:10
onkarshindeTooheys: When Richard Stallman left his job and started GNU project he taught programming in colleges for earning money to fund his effort got GNU03:10
henkhmm than i must have misread your remak to Tooheys03:10
Tooheysbut there are just soo many little snags to watch out for. (i really dont know..) like the gun licences and stuff like that if you use anything attached to license in your own developments your screwed..03:11
XHKonkarshinde: umm it says command not found03:11
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Tooheys*gnu03:11
henkTooheys, as long as you don't copy code from some open source project but write it yourself you have nothing to do with a gnu open source licence03:11
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onkarshindeXHK: Do as Jowi said.03:11
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XHKonkarshinde: I did so, it was enabled03:12
henkjust like in windows you can write your own closed software03:12
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Tooheysohhh, but what if I use glib for ex ?03:12
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onkarshindeTooheys: LGPL allows you to use some open source libraries and still keep your program closed.03:12
Tooheysahh.03:13
henkas far as i know glib does not require you to open the programs you compile with it03:13
Tooheysbut then again who is going to want to even pay $5 for something I develop if in a few weeks after I release it someone does it for free, based of my idea..03:13
onkarshindeXHK: Sorry the command was ps -ef|grep esd (note the space)03:13
Hendrici installed ubuntu... and created 1 fat32 partition and mounted it on /windows (during installation).. but while im on the ubuntu system.. logged in as a user.. i can't write to /windows.. and can't even change its permission03:13
Hendrichow can i make it writable by all users03:13
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onkarshindeHendric: You need to provide an option umask=000 to mount command or include in /etc/fstab03:14
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rcaskey_heya all, does anyone else not have a terminal option in breezy ;)03:14
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rcaskey_I used the menu editor to reenable the root terminal but didn't see just plain terminal03:14
henkTooheys, that is a problem that all software devloppers have not just the ones on linux. You have to find a way to make something that is usefull to others that makes them want to pay you for it03:14
kemikrcaskey_:  it's removed in gnome03:14
Ninjewonkarshinde: Or, you can add the option uid=user or gid=group (the preferable solution being make a group)03:14
kemikafaik03:15
XHKonkarshinde:hannes    8637     1  0 15:21 ?        00:00:01 /usr/bin/esd -nobeeps03:15
XHKhannes   10401  9246  0 16:14 pts/0    00:00:00 grep esd03:15
rcaskey_kemik: that's okay but err, I'd like to readd it ;)03:15
Hendriconkarshinde: so it should be like this on fstab: /dev/hda3 /windows vfat umask=000 0 0 <--???03:16
onkarshindeNinjew: True. gid=100 maybe. But you will still need umask03:16
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Ninjewonkarshinde: I can't remember what the default umask is for a mounted fat32 partition, doesn't it include group rw as well? Maybe i'm wrong03:16
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onkarshindeHendric: Right. Additionaly auto,umack=000,gid=10003:16
Hendricgreat!03:17
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rcaskey_anyone here know how to force a radeon into dual screen instead of mirror mode?03:17
onkarshindeNinjew: I suppose default is 022 and files owned by root03:17
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jjazzrcaskey_:  Does your radeon do merged framebuffers?03:18
Hendricwhy does ubuntu doesn't do it when mounting fat32 partition during installation (DISK PARTITIONER)? it defaults to root03:18
rcaskey_jjazz: dunno03:18
XHKonkarshinde:hannes    8637     1  0 15:21 ?        00:00:01 /usr/bin/esd -nobeeps03:18
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onkarshindercaskey_: Regarding your first question install package nautilus-terminal03:18
jjazzrcaskey_:  Well, go find out.03:18
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rcaskey_jjazz: one sec03:18
onkarshindeXHK: What are you trying to play and using which application?03:18
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onkarshindeHendric: You can add uid=somenumber to fstab line so as files are owned by some user. By defaulr partitions are mounted at boot so owned by root03:19
Hendricsudo apt-get dist-upgrade  <-- should this upgrade my Hoary to Breezy???03:19
Hendricor i better get the ISO and reinstall??03:20
XHKonkarshinde: There isn't no sounds at all. And if  i wanna play some music file it will give error or freeze.03:20
rcaskey_jjazz: don't see any mention of it in my xorg.conf its a 9600 (RV350)03:20
Hendrici got that one already onkarshinde.. thanks so much03:20
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vanguardisthello03:20
vanguardistI'm trying to build plib03:20
onkarshindeHendric: Provided you have replaced hoary with breezy in /etc/sources.list and done apt-get update first. Just check the channel topic03:20
athaHendric: yes, it does, if you have changed the repositories point to breezy ones in sources.list03:20
jjazzrcaskey_:  The place to look for that info is in your radeon documentation.  If your card supports it, you add it to your xorg.conf.03:20
vanguardistand I get this error:03:20
vanguardistchecking for glNewList in -lGL... no03:20
vanguardistchecking for glNewList in -lMesaGL... no03:20
vanguardistconfigure: error: could not find working GL librar03:20
onkarshindeXHK: Ok. What type of music and using which application?03:21
athaand of course apt-get update like onkarshinde wrote03:21
vanguardistI've installed every dev package for gl/glut/mesa/X that I can think of and it's still not working03:21
vanguardistany clues as to which one I'm missing?03:21
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vanguardist(low google juice on this one it seems)03:21
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onkarshindevanguardist: What are you trying to do?03:21
naliothvanguardist: use synaptic and search "names and contents"03:21
XHKonkarshinde: first of all i want sounds back03:22
HendricAnyone here got a hotfix for Gyach.. the pixbuffer error that closes the program unexpectedly....03:22
XHKonkarshinde: Ive tried mp3 with xmms, and with default players03:22
rcaskey_jjazz: I think those only work with the propriatary driver right?03:22
JowiXHK, well, did you change gnome->system->prefs->multimediasomething->default output sink to ALSA or something?03:22
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onkarshinde!ntfs03:23
ubotuwell, ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.03:23
sarajoin03:23
rcaskey_driver is v4l03:23
XHKJowi its ESD03:23
jjazzrcaskey_:  No, I don't think so.  I installed no proprietary drivers on this box, and yet I've got merged FBs going.03:23
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onkarshindercaskey_: which card?03:23
XHKJowi: Do i have to change it?03:23
onkarshindercaskey_: Specific model number03:23
JowiXHK, strange thing. the apps should not freeze. we can try one other thing03:23
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rcaskey_onkarshinde: 9600 (RV350) on PPC03:24
XHKJowi: only XMMS freezed03:24
sarahello03:24
athaXHK: have you tried to select different output plugin in xmms03:24
JowiXHK, ah, only xmms..... what output have you chosen xmms to use? do you have esd plugin for it?03:25
rcaskey_despite not having mergedfb enable I do have mirror mode right now03:25
XHKJowi: I dont know, anyway its not so important now, i want my sounds back.03:25
rcaskey_even though there is only a 1 screen server laytout03:25
onkarshindercaskey_: There you are. I suppose support for that card is not yet complete. Yet this thing may help you.03:25
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onkarshinde!ati03:25
ubotuI heard ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx03:25
XHKJowi: Like in gaim there isnt sounds and thats not gaims fault.03:26
basticould anyone tell me how I got rar support in breezy? I cant seem to locate a rar package with apt03:26
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kemikbasti:  maybe unrar-nonfree ?03:26
rcaskey_onkarshinde: I'm on a mac, I don't think they will have hte propriatary driver ;)03:26
XHKJowi: about the xmms, whats hould i do to close it? :P Its freezed right now03:26
bastikemik, gonna try03:26
JowiXHK, no it is not gaims fault. some apps i really need did not play nice with esd so i turned it off for good and have not had a problem since. maybe you should try the same setup as i have03:26
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rcaskey_onkarshinde: why am I seeing anything on the second head at all?03:27
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JowiXHK, if you want to try it03:27
onkarshindercaskey_: I suppose they have. It is the OS you are using that matters.03:27
ernstpAnyone has a SoundBlaster Audigy 2 ?03:27
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glickhe does anyone recognize this error when trying to run an applications...03:28
glickQt: Locales not supported on X server03:28
glickcannot handle file 'libc.so.6' with TLS data03:28
JowiXHK, it will mean however, that you will not have sound when closing apps and minimising windows and such. but at least you will have sound in applications!03:28
HendricDoes breezy got support for EPSON CX all in one printer/scanner?? they have with HP...03:28
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OrbmanNow that breezy is close to release, should i grab hoary or breezy for a new install ?03:29
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inc|freakydoes any1 know how i can edit the kmenu? because the link to kcontrol suddenly disapeared and i want to readd it03:29
vanguardistI'm trying to build plib03:29
vanguardistand I get this error:03:29
vanguardistconfigure: error: could not find working GL librar03:29
vanguardistI've installed every dev package for gl/glut/mesa/X that I can think of and it's still not working03:29
onkarshindeglick: Which application?03:29
bastikemik, there was unrar-free and it installed but I still cant extract03:29
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glickonkarshinde, interactive C 4 for linux03:29
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inc|freakyis the installation of the nvidia driver the same as under debian?03:30
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onkarshindeglick: Is it QT based application?03:30
glickonkarshinde, i thinks o03:30
glicki installed kde03:30
glickstill get the same error03:30
Orbmanwhich should i use for a new install ? breezy or hoary? this is for a normal desktop system...03:30
Nermalermm...03:31
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onkarshindeglick: There was no need to install KDE. Install you should install a package something like libqtmt302c**03:31
athaOrbman: based on my experience, I'd say breezy03:31
JowiOrbman, hoary is a sure shot.03:31
onkarshindeglick: I installed it when I tried to install skype.03:31
onkarshindeglick: Because skype is QT based.03:32
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JowiOrbman, considering hoary has had 6 months of maturing03:32
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OrbmanJowi: i can just upgrade when breezy comes out yea ?03:32
apokryphosyes03:32
onkarshindeOrbman: Sure you can.03:32
jklsjsdlssudo apt-get install azureus03:32
JowiOrbman, yes you can upgrade. there are alot of ppl here that is using breezy fine as well03:32
jklsjsdlsno go03:32
onkarshindeOrbman: Read the channel topic03:32
jklsjsdls:(03:32
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Orbmanonkarshinde: yea i was just reading it..03:33
Orbmanhoary it is :) till breezy is out :D03:33
onkarshindejklsjsdls: have you enabled all repositories?03:33
glickonkarshinde, i have libqt3c102-mt installed03:33
jklsjsdlsonkarshinde: yup03:33
basticould anyone tell me how I can unrar in breezy? kinda sux to have to unrar on another pc...03:34
jklsjsdlsonkarshinde: do you get it in your repos?03:34
Orbmanactually when is breezy meant to be released ?03:34
jklsjsdlsonkarshinde: sudo apt-cache search azureus03:34
Jowibasti, unrar x package.rar03:34
havocOrbman: oct 13th or so03:34
kemikbasti:  that's because you need the "non-free" version.. and it could be in multiverse/universe03:34
onkarshinde!azureus03:34
ubotuI guess azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, it can be downloaded from the hoary-extras repository03:34
Jowi!info unrar03:35
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Orbmanty :)03:35
ubotuunrar: (Unarchiver for .rar files), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1:0.0.1-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 16 kB, Installed size: 88 kB03:35
onkarshindejklsjsdls: Read what ubotu said03:35
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jklsjsdlsubotu: I got my repo list from paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d3803:35
ubotujklsjsdls: I don't know, could you explain it?03:35
Jowijklsjsdls, ubotu is not a person03:36
onkarshindejklsjsdls: You need to add extra repository03:36
onkarshinde!extra03:36
ubotuonkarshinde: Bugger all, i dunno03:36
kemikhehe03:36
jklsjsdlsoh bot03:36
jklsjsdlsdooh03:36
jklsjsdlshehe03:36
Jowi:)03:36
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onkarshinde!w32codecs03:36
ubotuhmm... w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy). 64-bit? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5439903:36
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onkarshinde!hoary-extra03:37
ubotuonkarshinde: What?03:37
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bastikemik, ah yes thx was in multiverse03:37
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onkarshindedoes anyone know path of hoary-extra?03:37
onkarshindeI think jklsjsdls needs it03:37
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scanwinderyou know how there are diff x86 things like 486, 586, 686, what is a pentium one?03:37
Jowi!dependencies03:37
ubotuNot a clue, Jowi03:37
kemikscanwinder:  depends on which pentium...03:37
Jowi!repositories03:37
uboturepositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy))03:37
kemikscanwinder:  586 or 68603:38
scanwinderkemik: pentium mmx03:38
kemikscanwinder:  586 the03:38
kemikthen03:38
onkarshindejklsjsdls: azureus is in extra repos and you will need to find ita path. May be this will help you.03:38
scanwinderkemik: ok, thanks03:38
jklsjsdlsonkarshinde: whats the line(s) i need to add to souces.list03:38
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ak37Hoary Extras? -> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras03:38
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Jowiak37, it was down yesterday. is it back online?03:38
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ak37Jowi, oh I don't know about it03:39
onkarshindejklsjsdls: Did you get answer from ak37?03:39
jklsjsdlsyes thanks03:39
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jklsjsdlsshould i ad a secrity repo to that though?03:39
ak37Jowi: I can see it through Firefox, it should be online03:39
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onkarshindeJowi: It is online today03:39
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shinuubuntu supports usb2 doesnt it?03:40
AcidPilshi03:40
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AcidPilshas anyone else problems playing .ogg files with mplayer?03:40
infornographycan anybody tell me how to suid a program?03:40
onkarshindeshinu: Yes it does03:40
Jowiak37, yeah, but it does not have any files in it. i changed mine to deb http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted + deb http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted03:40
Jowionkarshinde, ah great03:40
shinuonkarshinde: support is stable isnt it? i read somewhere that its not, but maybe im mistaking with some other distro or something...03:40
Jowiak37, temporary offline then :)03:41
naliothJowi: search planet.ubuntulinux.org for the new backports repos (remember b/p are evil)03:41
jklsjsdlsak37: E: Malformed line 7 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)03:41
jklsjsdls:(03:41
onkarshindeshinu: It is sure stable03:41
shinuonkarshinde: alright thanks :)03:41
Jowicheers nalioth03:41
onkarshindejklsjsdls: paste your source.list in pastebin03:42
ak37jklsjsdls: Whoa? I paste that line from my sources.list03:42
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onkarshindeAcidPils: Never tried. Should play finde with Rhythmbox or Beep oir XMMS03:42
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jklsjsdlsak37: I put it at the bottom is that ok03:42
onkarshindejklsjsdls: Should work03:43
ak37jklsjsdls: Yeah03:43
AcidPilsonkarshinde: it works with xmms, but for listening to webstreams i prefer mplayer03:43
onkarshindeAcidPils: Doesn't rhythmbox support web streams?03:43
jklsjsdlsI have my contry pre thing in front of the other ubuntu sources03:43
jklsjsdls(but not yours03:43
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onkarshindeAcidPils: May be some configuration problem with mplayer03:44
jklsjsdlsak37: is that ok03:44
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onkarshindejklsjsdls: Yes. Because extra repository is not mirrored. It is not official.03:44
AcidPilsonkarshinde: dont know, never tried that program, i would like to have something for the commandline ;)03:44
ak37jklsjsdls: Yes03:45
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Tooheyshehe someone tell me a dream linux application that they would pay money for (even $1)03:45
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AcidPilsTooheys: something that makes it easy to config the ati driver ;)03:46
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infornographyHow can I "suid" a file?03:46
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gxcwhat means "suid"?03:46
Jowiinfornography, chmod a+s filename is the common way03:46
jklsjsdlshttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d263403:47
onkarshindeTooheys: Something that managers in company will never how to configure.03:47
Jowi...or was it a+S03:47
infornographythanks03:47
jklsjsdlsany help03:47
TooheysAcidPils: I have a ati raedon 9800, haven't installed linux yet.. trying to get motivation to do so. I dont really need another os as windows is jsut fine for me (developer)..03:47
Jowigxc, set user id03:47
GooniePATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin03:47
GooniePHYSDEVPATH=/devices/ide1/1.003:47
gxcthanks jowi:)03:48
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TooheysI want to leave the evil empire that is M$, but dont want to throw away hard earned programming knowledge all for free.. know what i mean...03:48
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Tooheyshehe03:48
onkarshindejklsjsdls: In last line add dists after /03:48
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Jowigxc, np. useful for letting users mount samba shares etc (suid mount). it is considered to be a security risk though03:49
onkarshindejklsjsdls: http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists03:49
jklsjsdlsonkarshinde:  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d263403:49
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jklsjsdlsok cool03:49
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wickedpuppyTooheys, i suggest you don't move if you don't need it03:50
wickedpuppyreally03:50
wickedpuppyyou will be disappointed03:50
avalostahh I wish I had a Tooheys new..03:50
avalostI fell in love with that beer when was in australia03:50
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onkarshindeTooheys: Why don't you get some linux certification. That will get you a job and then you will be able to work for opensource.03:50
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will_hey everyone03:51
wickedpuppy!ping03:51
ubotuKeep your fingers to yourself, wickedpuppy.03:51
gxcI'm a programmer too,I need linux,it's a good platform03:51
wickedpuppyam i lagging bad or what ??03:51
Tooheysproblem is I live in a remote town (no programming roles etc) so what I do atm is for myself to make cash (mobile phone games atm)..03:51
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avalostTooheys, where in Oz are you?03:51
onkarshindeTooheys: There are some places where you can work from home. For example Mozilla Foundation.03:52
Tooheysavalost hehe try Tooheys Extra Dry next time. I promise you will fall in love with it too.03:52
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onkarshindegxc: So what is problem?03:52
avalostTooheys, if Iever make it back to Oz I will03:52
Tooheysavalost: in the camden haven area..03:52
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n00bsterhello, My mounting points disappears after i reboot..03:52
Tooheysavalost: halfway between coffs harbour and newcastle and in between no bloody where hehe03:53
wickedpuppyTooheys, why not tell us what language you use or what ??03:53
Deaniegot a question, i want smb as part of kernel, ive ran make menuconfig and added smb protocol as Module, an saved the .config,  but what do i do then ?03:53
avalostTooheys, I don't know the area, but I spent two months going between sydney and bribane and a little furth north03:53
gxchehe, no problem , just like linux,like programming for it03:53
jklsjsdlsonkarshinde:  still the same :(03:53
jklsjsdlshttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d263503:53
Tooheysatm J2ME for the mobile stuff, and C#.NET for pc applications03:53
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Deanienever touched kernel stuff, well when i did once, i broke it :)03:54
herrpoonhello anyone thre?03:54
onkarshindejklsjsdls: Same error again?03:54
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onkarshindeherrpoon: There are many03:54
jklsjsdlsonkarshinde: im on ubuntu live at the mo if thats a prob03:54
herrpoonhey!03:54
jklsjsdls(i have an installed ubuntu with the same setup03:54
jklsjsdlsonkarshinde, yeah same03:55
herrpoonsorry just using irssi from work, wanted to make sure ut was working03:55
wickedpuppyTooheys, as for java thats sun problem ... as for C# , there is mono but ... well i don't recommend it03:55
Tooheysshamefull plug: http://members.iinet.net.au/~pharg/03:55
onkarshindejklsjsdls: Hey the problem is not related to it. But I am not sure how you plan to install applications with Ubuntu live.03:55
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jklsjsdlsonkarshinde,: I will on my installed version03:56
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elvirolohi all03:56
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wickedpuppyjklsjsdls, if installed then use apt-get install <program> or use synaptic03:56
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herrpoonhey03:56
AcidPilscan anyone try  grep 0x73627276 /etc/mplayer/codecs.conf and tell me if there is a hit?03:56
CruX_hi all03:56
knewtanyone here use laptop-netconf?03:56
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Deaniegot a question, i want smb as part of kernel, ive ran make menuconfig and added smb protocol as Module, an saved the .config,  but what do i do then ?03:57
elvirolohas anyone managed to install balazar 0.2 (http://home.gna.org/oomadness/en/) ?03:57
onkarshindejklsjsdls: can you state error again?03:57
jklsjsdlsonkarshinde: if i borrows ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net can i get the deb there03:57
herrpoonwhat do u want to do?03:57
CruX_can't be resolution in xorg.conf be set via modeline ?03:57
JowiAcidPils, nope03:57
n00bstermounting points disappear after reboot.. eny way to fix it ?03:58
jklsjsdlsE: Malformed line 7 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)03:58
AcidPilsJowi: can you play .ogg with mplayer?03:58
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ak37n00bster: How do you mount it in the first place?03:58
onkarshindejklsjsdls: I suppose you wanted azureus. Here is the link http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-extras/universe/binary-i386/azureus_2.3.0.0-3~5.04ubp1_all.deb03:58
JowiAcidPils, will check03:58
AcidPilsthx03:58
jklsjsdls:D03:58
n00bsterfrom bash03:58
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ak37n00bster: You need to enter some lines to /etc/fstab to make it permanent03:59
kemik!tell n00bster about ntfs03:59
onkarshindejklsjsdls: But then you will need to install dependencies also manually.03:59
JowiAcidPils, will have to scp some ogg from the other pc03:59
n00bsterafter i mount, i can see the new points on fstab..03:59
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AcidPilsJowi: i solved the problem ;)03:59
kemikn00bster:  "cat /etc/fstab"03:59
AcidPilsrm /etc/mplayer/codecs.conf and it works04:00
sambagirlwill backpack serial port external cd burner work with ubuntu?04:00
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kemiksambagirl:  serialport? ouch.. must be slow04:00
onkarshinden00bster: Use following for auto mounting fat or ntfa partitions. http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab04:00
sambagirlumm as long as it saving data is not to slow for me :)04:00
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n00bster I use - sudi mount -t /etc/hda1 /media/hda104:01
gxcSATA cd burner??04:01
n00bsterok.04:01
JowiAcidPils, good. just found out it worked :)04:01
onkarshinden00bster: Read my above reply04:01
JowiAcidPils, what was your prob?04:01
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AcidPilsi could not play any .ogg04:02
elvirolohas anyone managed to compile/install soya 0.10 then ?04:02
sambagirllet me check their web url04:02
sambagirlbrb04:02
onkarshindejklsjsdls: You will have to04:02
JowiAcidPils, heh, yeah. but did you get an error?04:02
AcidPilshttp://rafb.net/paste/results/NXOTNM91.html <- that04:02
n00bsterI have, ty, i'm traying it now.04:02
pinoyskulldoes anybody knows how to disable buffering when playing videos over LAN?04:02
onkarshinden00bster: You will have to run it as this 'sudo bash winmac_fstab"04:03
JowiAcidPils, alright. and you solved it with -ao i guess04:03
gxcpinoyskull: over samba?04:03
AcidPilsJowi: no, with rm /etc/mplayer/codes.conf04:03
n00bsterwhat's 'winmac_fstab' ?04:03
AcidPils-ao didnt work04:03
JowiAcidPils, oh ok.04:03
pinoyskullgxc: ya, over samba04:03
onkarshindejklsjsdls: You can use http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports as extra repos instead. It works properly.04:03
gxcpinoyskull: :( I have the same problem04:04
onkarshinden00bster: It is a script that will add entries to your fstab by detecting vfat and ntfs partitions. Save that file yo your disc.04:04
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pinoyskullgxc: u fixed it?04:04
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Crackstarafter installung ubuntu my system is freezing on loading "starting hotplug subsystem" what can i do?! :/04:04
pinoyskullCrackstar: just wait for a few seconds, it will continue04:05
n00bsterok, thank you.04:05
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InitMassany new releases of breezy stuff lately??04:06
gxcpinoyskull: I use totem-xine, it always stop working for me04:06
Crackstarpinoyskull no it dont continue and when i start recovery i get the error hw_random: RNG not detected ; hw_random cant be loaded missing kernel or user mode driver hw_random04:06
pinoyskullgxc: totem or xine, it always buffers before it plays the video, i hate it, in slackware it doesnt do that04:07
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sorush20guys since I upgraded to breezy I've lost my printer..04:07
bretzelHow is Breezy now ? safe to upgrade ?04:07
onkarshindebretzel: Not yet.04:08
kemikbretzel:  13 oct04:08
pinoyskullbretzel: wait for the final release04:08
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ak37bretzel: I'm on Breezy, but my upgrade wasn't smooth04:08
gxcme too!does anyone knows how to fix it?04:08
bretzel15 days before the Breezy day :-)04:08
Crackstarhm :(04:08
bretzelI will wait then thanks04:08
pinoyskulli have a fresh install of breezy badger on my test pc, it was ok04:08
AcidPilsmy update months ago worked fine... but then... omfg ;)04:09
ak37Fresh install is cool04:09
pinoyskullbut ill wait for final before i make it my default workstation04:09
sorush20how do I restart cups04:09
bretzelI use my linux box mainly for C++ labs ( free time coding )04:09
kemiksorush20:  sudo /etc/init.d/cupsd restart04:09
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bretzelI wonder if Breezy is well set for that04:09
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pinoyskullsorush20: /etc/init.d/cupsys restart04:09
kemikbretzel:  why would it not be ?04:10
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bretzelkemik: missing configs, data; paths, etc ...04:10
n00bsterwinmac_fstab returns error: error: libhal_device_get_property_type: org.freedesktop.Hal.NoSuchDevice: No device with id /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/block_3_104:10
jeldertOOo 2 RC1 is released today, any change to include it in breezy? Or even better, if the final is out in time t oinclude final instead of beta 2?04:10
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kemikbretzel:  lost me there...04:10
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Crackstardoes somebody can help me ?04:10
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gxcbretzel:sure,it's well  set for that04:10
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kemikconfigs for what? paths to where?04:11
sorush20when I try to restart the hotplug system it crashes the computer can can someone help please.04:11
onkarshindejeldert: OOo final should be out before Breezy final04:11
kemikbretzel:  just install "build-essential" and you'll get the compilers.. (if not, jsut apt-get g++)04:11
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pinoyskullonkarshinde: i hope so, if not, ill stick to abiword and gnumeric for a while04:11
kemikand most libs are also apt-gettable04:12
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jeldertonkarshinde, would be nice :D04:12
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pinoyskullsick: go to sleep and rest, :D04:12
jklsjsdlsonkarshinde: um could i still have some help04:12
jklsjsdlssorry04:12
bretzelThus I can fire up the upgrade :-)  -- I am in a fresh vanilla Hoary re-install. Lets hope all will be good after that -- but the beauty of Ubuntu is its fast install and configs so I am not scared to restart04:12
jklsjsdlsi need libswt-gtk-3.1-java04:12
onkarshindeI was just wondering if they include FF 1.5 beta in breezy so that I may upgrade to 1.5 once it is out.04:13
sorush20j04:13
onkarshindejklsjsdls: Did you try second repository i said. I said it just works.04:13
sorush20I can't restart the hotplug system..04:13
naliothjklsjsdls: use azureus from sourceforge04:13
sorush20it just crashes.. I don't know why04:13
ak37onkarshinde: I heard FF 1.5 won't make it to breezy04:13
Jowisorush20, could be that pcmcia or acpi is disturbing it. if you suspect a specific one you can disable them here: /etc/hotplug/blacklist04:13
jeldertquestion: why am I having a hard time loging in with GAIM (to msn) all the time?04:14
jklsjsdlsonkarshinde: no could you paste the repositoray again?04:14
jeldertaMSN doesn't connect either04:14
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Jowisorush20, but if it is only when you restart it, and not during boot, maybe you can try to temporarily disable the network "sudo /etc/init.d/network stop"04:16
jklsjsdlshttp://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports04:16
jklsjsdlsha04:16
Tooheyshehe sorry for the questions but anyways: can i install redhat rpms with ubuntu ?04:16
jklsjsdlsha04:16
jklsjsdlsah04:16
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plodalien?04:16
bretzel... Upgrading :-)04:16
ak37Tooheys: use alien to convert rpm to deb04:16
onkarshindejklsjsdls: http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports04:17
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onkarshindejeldert: Which gaim version?04:17
Crackstarafter installung ubuntu my system is freezing on loading "starting hotplug subsystem" what can i do?! :/04:17
Tooheysak37: ahh ok because I dont know which version of mono to download, its either suse or radhat..04:18
gxcTooheys:  use dpkg -i file.deb to install it04:18
jklsjsdlsonkarshinde: do i add /dists hoary-extras04:18
jklsjsdls to the end?04:18
ak37Tooheys: Mono, I tought Mono is there for Ubuntu04:18
vinboy_12304:18
ak37Tooheys: At least in Breezy, Hoary should have Mono in the backport repos04:18
onkarshindejklsjsdls: Yes.04:19
Tooheysohh how do I know ?04:19
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onkarshindeTooheys: Ever heard of synaptic?04:19
ak37Tooheys: Check synaptics?04:19
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jklsjsdlsdo i need to say dists cause my other ones just have hoary-extras04:19
Tooheysno sorry havent heard of it..04:19
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jklsjsdlsi mean that part04:19
onkarshindeCan anyone tell me exact purpose of gnome-meeting? Is it VoIP?04:20
Jowi!info mono04:20
ubotumono: (The Mono .NET development environment), section universe/interpreters, is optional. Version: 1.0.5-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 36 kB04:20
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Concord_DawnI have a question. I follow the Firestarter Howto located on the forums, but I still recieve the "Insufficient root privileges" error.04:20
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onkarshindejklsjsdls: Complete line 'deb http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports/dists hoary-extras'04:20
Tooheyshehe can you tell me what synaptic is?04:20
Deanieits the ms equiv of netmeeting.04:20
Jowionkarshinde, video over ip with voice.04:20
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ak37Tooheys: It's under System > Administration > Synaptics04:21
onkarshindeTooheys: System->Administration->Synaptic04:21
Deaniegot a question, i want smb as part of kernel, ive ran make menuconfig and added smb protocol as Module, an saved the .config,  but what do i do then ?04:21
Jowionkarshinde, think it uses SIP for voip but i'm not sure04:21
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onkarshindeJowi: No. It doesn't use SIP. It uses H.32304:21
Jowionkarshinde, aha.04:22
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Tooheysohh I'm done.. thanks for all the help everyone.. I'm sure when I wake up in the morning i will be back in here to bug ya's :)04:24
onkarshindewhere can i get list of linux compatible tv capture cards?04:25
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chortonHow do I add a path that #include's look to?04:25
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DeVeRaSyellow there04:25
dmacdonald111Hi all. So I have got ubuntu up and running and I am happy :) But it is saying that there are updates to download. Is this safe to allow my computer to do this? Or should I be going through them 1 by 1 (there are 371). Thanks04:25
Jowionkarshinde, best bet is to have a look at mythtv's homepage04:25
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DeVeRaSi did apt-get install phpbb2 but it didn't go to /var/www/ but to /usr/share ... so it's outside the webserver. How can i install it to the correct path or where do i change the webserver to make that folder also browseble?04:26
kentdmacdonald111, is it the stable ubuntu or the unstable Breezy? Either way, you want to upgrade. But if it is Breezy, you should have installed the stable version instead..04:26
fugitI'm trying to get an ubuntu client to register with an w2k3 AD server for dynamic dns, thus far with no luck04:26
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jklsjsdlsonkarshinde: it's still doing it! ahh04:26
fugitI have tried the interface file perm hostname "machine.domain.com"04:26
onkarshindejklsjsdls: What is it doing?04:27
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dmacdonald111kent: uhm, pass. How can I find out which version it is?04:27
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fugitand I Have tried setting send host-name "machine.domain.com" as well as the fqdn send option04:27
jklsjsdlsE: Malformed line 10 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)04:27
nictukuhi. I'm trying to install zope-ldapuserfolder but it depends on python2.2-ldap. I can't find that even on universe. pacakges.ubuntu.com shows it only in warty. What should I do?04:27
fugitAnyone have success with Dynamic DNS and an ubuntu client04:27
Crackstarafter installung ubuntu my system is freezing on loading "starting hotplug subsystem" what can i do?! :/04:27
Rotundwhat is the correct process for requesting a package gets bumped to a newer version?04:27
RotundIs it a bug report?04:28
onkarshindejklsjsdls: Pastebin please04:28
jklsjsdlsok04:28
Jowifugit, maybe you should add the win machine in /etc/hosts.allow04:28
sproingieRotund: did the maintainer forget to bump the version on a new version of a package?04:28
DeVeRaSi did apt-get install phpbb2 but it didn't go to /var/www/ but to /usr/share ... so it's outside the webserver. How can i install it to the correct path or where do i change the webserver to make that folder also browseble?04:28
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fugitJowi: I'll try anthing at this point :-) Trying that right now04:29
Jowifugit, like for ssh: sshd:ALL04:29
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jklsjsdlshttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d263604:29
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kentdmacdonald111, I think it will tell if you open up the webbrowser (firefox) and look at the "startpage". It should tell..04:29
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jklsjsdlsonkarshinde: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d263604:29
Rotundsproingie: No, I want to request libtheora gets updated to version 1.0-alpha5 (we're at alpha4 and there are bug fixes)04:29
DeVeRaSubuntu have a diferente file for the httpd.conf file of apache04:30
DeVeRaSwhere is the apache2 confgiuration file?04:30
DeVeRaSwhat is it?04:30
dmacdonald111kent: er, it's 5.10 breezy badger04:30
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buzzcoDeVeRaS:  /etc/apache2/httpd.conf04:30
JowiDeVeRaS, /etc/apache2/apache2.conf + httpd.conf04:31
Rotundsproingie: (I;m talking breezy too... obviously they won't update hoary)04:31
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vinboy_does anyone know if there is any CVS server gui?04:31
kentdmacdonald111, Then it is the unstable on. You can try to upgrade the packages. If it does not break the system everything is ok. Its pretty stable now, since it is soon to be released..  So, go ahead and upgrade. Thats my advice..04:31
vinboy_it is kinda hard to setup04:31
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alexcamilohello, how do i use apt-get to install http servers, ftp servers, and ssh?04:31
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cristianhola04:32
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cristianalguien de argentina?04:32
Myrtti#ubuntu-es04:32
ompaul!es04:32
wickedpuppyalexandros, use synaptic04:32
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.04:32
wickedpuppy:P04:32
Hendricupgrading the distro needs to download 522MB of files.. i better get the ISO04:32
Jowialexcamilo, sudo apt-get install ssh proftpd apache204:32
alexcamiloi dont have it. base system installed04:32
dmacdonald111kent: Thank you :) I have used unstable versions of other distro's before, so if anything goes wrong, I feel pretty confident to fix it again.04:32
wickedpuppyonly base ? no gui ?04:32
cristiansomebody who speak spanish???04:32
sproingieRotund: yah a RFE bug report might do it.  i dont know what the etiquette is on asking the maintainer directly, but a bug will hopefully keep everyone from making the same request04:32
Leonikdoes wine work better in breezy?04:32
alexcamilonope.04:33
alexcamilono gui04:33
onkarshindejklsjsdls: Oops. Biggest mistake I could do ever. 'deb http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports/dists hoary-extras main restricted universe multiverse'04:33
dpro\!es04:33
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.04:33
ompaul!tell cristian about es04:33
wickedpuppyi am sorry but if you do a base system ... i am thinking you should know what you are doing ?04:33
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kentdmacdonald111, then you should be ok. I run breezy my self, and have not had any problems for a long time. :)04:33
Myrtti[17:32]  < Jowi> alexcamilo, sudo apt-get install ssh proftpd apache204:33
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ompaulcristian, a pm from ubotu04:33
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wickedpuppyapt-get install <proggram> is the command btw04:33
jklsjsdlslol04:33
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dmacdonald111kent: cool. Thank you. I'm just happy to find a distro that actually utilizes the full potential of my graphics card :)04:33
n00bsteri just wanted to thank you, the disappearing partitions after reboot problems is solved, and it also04:33
n00bsterfixed partition permissions problems. TY!04:33
alexcamilooops. was trying sshd04:34
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alexcamiloXD04:34
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Jowialexcamilo, ssh installs openssh-server and openssh-client04:34
XHKtere kinomees04:34
Leonikwhy is the breezy install cd only 1 cd, whereas hoary was an entire dvd?04:34
Kinomees?04:34
Kinomeestere jah04:34
DeVeRaShow do i restart apache2?04:34
kentdmacdonald111, what kind of card is it? I have an old TNT2. It works fine for me, but I dont do much more than browsing internet and irc..04:35
JowiDeVeRaS, sudo /etc/init.d/httpd restart04:35
jklsjsdlsonkarshinde: all good no lol04:35
onkarshindeLeonik: Hoary was also one CD. Only that DVD contains all the packahes in repos.04:35
jklsjsdlsonkarshinde: thank you very much04:35
onkarshindejklsjsdls: So is it working now?04:35
wickedpuppyi thought apache2 instead of httpd04:35
jklsjsdls:)04:35
wickedpuppy?04:35
DeVeRaSsudo /etc/init.d/httpd restart04:35
DeVeRaSsudo: /etc/init.d/httpd: command not found04:35
LeonikSo it still comes with everything, like OOo and gimp?04:35
Jowiwickedpuppy, you are right!04:35
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dmacdonald111kent: I have a radion 9200. It worked on other distro's, but I wasn't able to change the resolution. Now I have a choice of all of them.04:36
JowiDeVeRaS, listen to wickedpuppy. i am a liar04:36
ompaulLeonik, when breezy becomes a release expect to see a DVD04:36
JowiDeVeRaS, sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart04:36
Leonikshould i still download it? or should i just use my old hoary dvd?04:36
Leoniki switched back to windows because wine wasnt working04:36
kentdmacdonald111, ok. thats nice :)04:37
ompaulLeonik, for what?04:37
Leonikto reinstall ubuntu04:37
dmacdonald111kent: yes. I'm happy :)04:37
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MyrttiLeonik: what were you trying to run in wine?04:37
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Leonikwell i would install it with synaptic and it wouldnt create the config files i needed nad it was just a huge mess04:38
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Leonikit wouldnt run steam or wow04:38
abiertoshello I need help04:38
Leonikwhich is what i really needed04:38
abiertossomeone know something about yaboot04:38
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abiertosuh?04:38
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naliothabiertos: whats up?04:39
abiertosnalioth: I have a problem04:39
jklsjsdlsonkarshinde: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d2637      oh some off them stuffed04:40
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jklsjsdlsthat won't affect me will it04:40
jklsjsdls?04:40
ompaulLeonik, I suggest starting from a Colony 5 CD wine works, it can take a bit of effort to get it to work the way you want it to, howver for games there is something called cageda if I spelt it correctly, it would be more suitable, I can say however I do not use wine or this cageda so I am no expert in this :) however there are lots of Linux games out there, and although you think you want wow or something else you can always check out04:40
ompaulThe Linux Game Tome04:40
RockyBurtare there any gnome power management utils for configuring acpi with breezy badger?04:40
abiertosnalioth: my keyboard isnt work04:40
Leoniktoo bad i have to pay for cedega04:41
naliothabiertos: how does that affect yaboot?04:41
samuelhi =)04:41
abiertosnalioth: so I cant to change my root password04:41
Leonikwould breezy be a better choice for gaming than hoary?04:41
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nalioth!tell abiertos about root04:41
kemikLeonik:  probably since the 3d drivers are updated04:41
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samueldoes anyone know how to truncate file names in nautilus?04:41
naliothabiertos: ubotu has sent you a msg04:41
kemikLeonik:  but i'd wait 14 days for breezy to be stable04:42
bienveabiertos :o04:42
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bienveun dominicano.04:42
ompaulLeonik, no idea, but if I was to do it today and that was my aim, I would use breezy, download the one CD, and enjoy building a new system04:42
Leonikif i install breezy right now can i upgrade to the stable without losing everything?04:42
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naliothLeonik: yes you can04:42
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Leonikjust through that gnome update icon right?04:43
Leoniklike how i upgrade everything else?04:43
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sambagirlwhen i try to access the ubuntu machine via a windows machine it requests a pw but i never assigned one is there a defualt?04:43
ompaulLeonik, yes, out of curiosity how much hard drive have you got for this?04:44
jklsjsdlshmm i need libswt-gtk-3.1-java04:44
naliothsambagirl: use your user name and pass04:44
sambagirlhow do you change the workgroup on the ubuntu machine to match the otherrs?04:44
sambagirlahh04:44
naliothjklsjsdls: what program are you wanting to use?04:44
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Leonik140 so i could run a dual boot environment04:44
Jowisambagirl, workgroup is listed in /etc/samba/smb.conf04:44
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sambagirlahh now it says no access to the thingy and it just did before strange.04:45
sambagirlbrb need to fix this.04:46
Jowisambagirl, ....if you're running the samba server that is...04:46
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sambagirlhah i was running nfs i think i checking now04:46
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sno_he guys04:46
sno_miramax backports are down04:46
sno_can i set up others?04:46
sno_atm i commented out the miramax backports in the sources.list04:47
sno_but now i cannot install anything :>04:47
samuelcan anyone please tell me if its possible to truncate the file and folder names in nautilus? when reading my ntfs partition some hidden files have huge names04:47
sambagirlhow do i list active programs so i can turn something off to free up memory? it is not opening things right04:47
Jowisno: i use these: deb http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted + deb http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted04:47
sno_thanx Jowi04:48
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sno_:)04:48
Jowisambagirl, ps -A will give you all active progs04:48
abiertossomeone help me04:48
abiertosI want to know if there is a person here that knows something about yaboot04:49
abiertosits important04:49
ompaulabiertos, please help others to help you by asking a specific question about whatever you have a problem with04:49
Leonikif i run a dual boot environemnt can i format the rest of the windows drive once i completely get my linux system up and running?04:49
Jowisambagirl, "top" will give you programs listed by the CPU they consume. (quit with q)04:49
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ompaulLeonik, yes04:50
jklsjsdlsnalioth: azurous and i found this file next to it in the repo http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-extras/universe/binary-i386/libswt-gtk-3.1-java_3.0+3.1M4-3~5.04ubp1_all.deb04:50
Leonikeven if its the same hard drive?04:50
abiertosompaul: The problem is that when I started with init=/bin/sh my keyboard isnt work04:50
jklsjsdlsI think that what i need04:50
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abiertosompaul: I want to know if there is a parameter that I could use for make my keyboard works with init=/bin/sh process04:51
ccookesambagirl: how much memory do you have?04:51
samuelleonik do u mean delete the windows partition once your all set up with linux?04:51
ompaulabiertos, where are you starting with this? grub?04:51
KasperTechHi. How does Ubuntu feel about an ATI Radeon Mobility X600-graphic card? I'm buying a laptop you see. And I've got the choice between the expensive (NVidia GeForce 6600) and the less expensive (The Radeon Card) ???04:51
Leonikyea04:52
ccookeKasperTech: using one now.04:52
abiertosompaul: yaboot04:52
Leonikand add that space back to the linux one04:52
KasperTechHow do you like it ccooke :)?04:52
ccookeKasperTech: on the laptop at 1920x1200 and a second monitor at 1280x1024.04:52
ayeizajedianyone got any feeback on the 'perfect setup' ( http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_5.04 ) and wether or not it would work for the latest version ?04:52
ChousukeKasperTech: nvidias are preferable.04:52
samuelleonik yeah you can do that and make a new partition, or resize the linux partition04:52
ccookeChousuke: not in breezy.04:52
abiertosompaul: yaboot is the boot loader for powerpc's04:52
KasperTechccooke: Okay, how about games?04:52
Chousukeccooke: why not?04:53
Leonikis it simple or rather complex?04:53
samuelsimple04:53
KasperTechChousuke: I know, but it's like 200$ expensiver.04:53
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ChousukeKasperTech: and it'll suck :P04:53
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ccookeKasperTech: Hoary is fine, but if you want to get an externl monitor working too, use breezy.04:53
Chousukeat least with the binary drivers.04:53
ompaulabiertos, so being an X86 sort of person I know nothing :)04:53
KasperTechccooke: Where's that avaible for download?04:54
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ccookeKasperTech/Chousuke: The latest ATI binary drivers (8.16.20) are a huge improvement on the previous ones04:54
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KasperTechOkay, how do I install that?04:54
Chousukeccooke: Are they yet on par with nvidia?04:54
ccookeKasperTech: the preview release is in the topic at http://tinyurl.com/85dry04:54
KasperTechccooke: (So I'm already for the day it arives) :)04:54
Crackstarafter installung ubuntu my system is freezing on loading "starting hotplug subsystem" what can i do?! :/04:54
ccookeKasperTech: the full release will be early October.04:54
catfoxcan i use a second monitor on my laptop with an ati card? as a dual screen, not as a copied screen04:54
abiertosompaul: I just need a way to make my keyboard works with this parameter04:54
ccookeChousuke: close enough for it to make no difference.04:54
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ccookeChousuke: in breezy, full acceleration was adding one line to xorg.conf and changing to the fglrx drivers.04:55
ompaulabiertos, I don't know look here: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2004-September.txt.gz04:55
ccookeChousuke: and multiple monitors took me two minutes to get working.04:55
Chousukeccooke: are they stable and fast?04:55
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ccookeChousuke: yep.04:55
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catfoxccooke, what are the changes? i'd like to get it working04:56
ccookeKasperTech: for games, I have NWN and Darwinia installed. Both perform better than the windows versions04:56
KasperTechOkay.04:56
ccookecatfox: what for?04:56
samuelcool, is NWN still played online much?04:56
catfoxxorg.conf and ati drivers. unless i'm thinking of something else :)04:56
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ccookesamuel: if you're into RPGs, yeah :-)04:56
seliniumccooke: NWN ? neverwinter?04:56
sambagirlit's amazing the level of knowledge in this channel. amazing.04:56
KasperTechHm.. ccooke: The one I'm wanting to buy is a Vega-machine.. d'you know if it'll be okay?04:56
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ccookecatfox: in breezy... all you need to do is install the restricted modules for your kernel, add 'fglrx' to /etc/modules04:57
samuelcool, i will have to get back into it =)04:57
Chousukeccooke: That's pretty amazing development then.04:57
ccookecatfox: then in xorg.conf, change 'radeon' to 'fglrx' and add below it 'Option "VideoOverlay" "on"04:57
catfoxccooke, good stuff, i'll give that a go. is it easy to get a second monitor working?04:57
Chousukeccooke: I'm still a bit sceptical though.04:58
seliniumsambagirl, we are all here to help!04:58
ccookeChousuke: why?04:58
ccookecatfox: it's nothing complicated if you know xorg.conf04:58
Chousukeccooke: because I've never heard anyone say anything good about ATi drivers before.04:58
KasperTechVega with 256 GeForce 6600 (1685$) vs. Zepto with ATI Radeon Mobility X600 (1703$) What to choose?04:58
ccookeChousuke: yes. They used to be *terrible*.04:59
KasperTech(the ATI is 128mb)04:59
catfoxccooke,  i'm comforatble editing it, just never added a second monitor. on a laptop, does it use the tvout port?04:59
QuinthiusChousuke: that's just because it's trendy to bash ati :P04:59
ccookeChousuke: 8.16.20 made an absolutely huge difference04:59
ChousukeKasperTech: The nvidia one is cheaper.04:59
Chousuke:P04:59
samuelive only been using ubuntu for a couple of weeks but i think the community is great =)04:59
Strognvidia would be my choice everytime04:59
KasperTechChousuke: Woops, um... switched prizes :P04:59
ccookecatfox: ... well, it can.04:59
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knewt /part04:59
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ChousukeI'd go with the nvidia still04:59
ccookecatfox: you *might* need one more option on the config05:00
catfoxccooke, righto, might have to look around a bit first. does it still use xinerama?05:00
KasperTechChousuke, ccooke, Strog: Vega laptop with 256 mb GeForce 6600 (1703$) vs. Zepto with ATI Radeon Mobility X600 128 mb (1685$) What to choose?05:00
ccookeKasperTech: if you're going with Breezy, they're each about as good as the other from ease of use. Try a hardware review site to see which card is better?05:00
KasperTechThat's the right info.05:00
samuelpersonally i nvr had much luck with ati drivers, nvidia have always worked better for me05:00
ChousukeKasperTech: the nvidia one05:00
Chousukeor, it depends.05:01
Chousukewhat are the other specs?05:01
ccookeKasperTech: if you go with Hoary, go for the nvidia.05:01
KasperTech1,7 pentium M05:01
KasperTech1 gig ddr ram05:01
gregg_go for the nvidia one, nvidia's linux support is really quite good05:01
KasperTechccooke: Humm okay. :)05:01
Chousukethe nvidia has more memory too.05:01
KasperTechOkay, the nvidia it is.05:01
StrogKasperTech: I've had waaay less issues with nvidia and I'd go that route but you are free to choose. :)05:01
ccookecatfox: not unless you have two graphics cards05:01
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sno_someone has good backports? query..05:01
Chousukeand it's not that much more expensive.05:02
Chousukesno_: backports are neever good ;/05:02
catfoxccooke, i see. cheers mate05:02
KasperTechThanks all, and bye for now. :)05:02
KasperTechDinner's ready.05:02
samuelcya GL05:02
KasperTechThanks.05:02
ccookecatfox: does your laptop have a monitor port?05:02
catfoxccooke, i think it's tvout05:02
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ChousukeQuite an expensive laptop it is he's getting05:02
ccookecatfox: right, I see.05:02
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zAo^with what program can I get thumbnails of my Canon RAW files???05:03
catfoxccooke, actually there's two ports, but they've got icons next to them not labels05:03
ChousukeMy powerbook didn't cost that much. :P05:03
catfoxccooke, on this laptop anyway. not sure about my one at home05:03
ccookecatfox: does one have an icon like |O|05:03
sno_i just want to install the acrobat reader, but the backports are always offline..05:03
ccookecatfox: ?05:03
zAo^no1?05:03
catfoxccooke, yeah it does05:03
RockyBurtare there any gnome power management utils for configuring acpi with breezy badger?  i need some way to tell my laptop to not use power-stepping (where it changes the clockspeed dynamically) when plugged into AC05:03
AnguShi! I'm using breezy, the kernel jsut got upgraded... and now my windows is missing from the GRUB menu. this always happened on breezy, but now also the "boot" configuration panel from the admin menu is gone, so i have no clue how to bring windows back. any clue?05:03
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n00bsteris there en Emulator on Ubuntu?05:04
tritium!tell sno_ about acroread05:04
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Chousuken00bster: for what?05:04
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ccookecatfox: D-shaped, three rows of five holes?05:04
tritiumn00bster: what kind of emulator?05:04
n00bsterwin software05:04
samuelso, how to stop nautilus from showing the full filename if over XX letters anyone?05:04
n00bsterlike wine.05:04
Chousuketry wine05:04
Chousuke:P05:04
catfoxccooke, yep05:04
ccookecatfox: right. you have a monitor port, then :-)05:04
catfoxccooke, hurrah!05:04
tritiumn00bster: there are all kinds of emulators available05:04
n00bstercan i add it from "add & remuve programs" ?05:04
Chousuken00bster: use synaptic05:05
catfoxccooke, so that other line to add to xorg.conf, any ideas what it'd be?05:05
ccookecatfox: got a spare monitor?05:05
sno_thanx tritium05:05
ccookecatfox: I can show you how to configure it, it's easy.05:05
catfoxccooke, not here, i'm at the office. have at ome tho05:05
ompaultell n00bster about wine05:05
tritiumsno_: sure thing :)05:05
n00bsteris it en instellation onption on ubuntu ?05:05
ccookecatfox: okay05:05
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ccookecatfox: The way to do it:05:05
tritiumn00bster: yes, if you have the universe repo setup05:05
sno_oh, tritium: it's a 404 :>05:05
n00bster"universe repo setup" ? ?05:06
tritiumsno_: really?  We'll bug Seveas about that then ;)05:06
sproingieanyone have recommendations for a decent filtering proxy like proxomitron but for linux?05:06
tritium!tell n00bster about repositories05:06
ccookecatfox: 1) find the 'Device' section for your card. Make a complete copy of it and change the Identifier from 'whatever' to 'whatever 2'05:06
sno_i just want to read this damn pdf :>>05:06
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tritiumsno_: xpdf and evince don't cut the mustard for you?05:07
ccookecatfox: 2) Do exactly the same for the Monitor section05:07
sno_tritium: what's evince? i'll try it05:07
n00bsterok, i'll download it from there , & i'll see how do i manage with instellation :} ty !!05:07
tritiumsno_: a pdf viewer05:07
ccookecatfox: 3) Do the same for the Screen section05:07
sno_!tell sno_ about evince05:07
tritium!info evince05:08
ubotuevince: (Document (postscript, pdf) viewer), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.1.9-0ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 189 kB, Installed size: 788 kB05:08
RockyBurti guess there's no easy way to change laptop acpi settings in ubutnu breezy badger?05:08
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ccookecatfox: 4) in the Device section, add 'Screen 0' to the first copy and 'Screen 1' to the second.05:08
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sno_yeah i can install evince.. thnx very much05:08
tritiumRockyBurt: edit /etc/default/acpi-support05:08
tritiumgood luck, sno_ :)05:08
ccookecatfox: 5) In the layout section, you'll have something like 'Screen "Default Screen"'05:08
ccookecatfox: underneath it, add 'Screen "Default Screen 2" RightOf "Default Screen"'05:09
tritiumccooke: setting up TwinView?05:09
ccookecatfox: (changing the name or relationshipto the Identifier on your second Screen section05:09
ccooketritium: no05:09
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ccookecatfox: Try restarting. If it complains, or only sees one screen, try adding 1 to the last digit of the BusID in the second Device section.05:10
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ccookecatfox: (whether the two heads of a graphics card are the same BusID can depend on the architecture)05:11
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Shin_Goukihi05:12
RockyBurttritium: there's no easy way to configure clockspeed dynamic control? (power mannagement stuff)05:12
avalosti've got a coffee buzz, eep05:12
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Shin_Goukihello! : if im usding the "normal" ubnunto 5.10 CD install iso, what is the smallest possible configuration of a ubuntu system??05:13
tritiumRockyBurt: that file is primarily for configuring suspend and hibernate.05:13
ChousukeShin_Gouki: 100MB05:13
AnguSPLEASE can someone with a windows dual-boot system paste me his GRUB lines to boot the windows partition? breezy wiped them out here...05:13
Chousukeabout.05:13
tritiumRockyBurt: are you running powernowd?05:13
avalostShin_Gouki, for deafault when you install type 'server'05:13
avalostenter05:13
ChousukeShin_Gouki: but that's not very usable.05:13
Shin_Goukit @ Chosuke05:13
tritiumAnguS: why do you say that breezy wiped them out?05:14
RockyBurttritium: i have no idea what i'm running... all i know is right now my clockspeed is changing frequently depending on load... but while plugged into AC i really want my clockspeed to stay fixed at the highest setting05:14
ChousukeShin_Gouki: it doesn't have X or anything yet.05:14
Shin_Goukii want a shell and if possible gnome too ?05:14
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avalostShin_Gouki, are you 'really' tight on space?05:14
kemikgnome is huge05:14
Shin_Goukihm how big this goes then? and does ubuntu also needd something like a "swap" file?05:14
AnguStritium: because it worked fine, then it upgraded the kernel, i rebooted and windows was out of the grub menu05:14
kemikShin_Gouki:  see other Window Managers...05:14
Shin_Goukiyes i only have 700 MB :/05:14
tritiumRockyBurt: what architecture?05:14
kemiklike IceWM, XFCE05:14
Shin_Goukix68 1238 MB RAM05:14
avalostwow 700 MB is not enough to run x05:15
RockyBurttritium: this is a dell latitude d800 ... intel centrino tech05:15
Shin_Goukiups x86 128 MB ram ^^05:15
AnguSAnguS: it always happened since i installed breezy a couple of weeks ago, but there was this nice control panel for setting up grub, now i dont see it anymore in the admin tools menu05:15
tritiumAnguS: upgrading the kernel only adds a new kernel to the menu05:15
AnguSi meant tritium05:15
kemikShin_Gouki:  i'd run icewm or possibly xfce05:15
AnguStritium: it doesnt05:15
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Shin_Goukiso 700 MB wwill be fine with x?05:15
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tritiumAnguS: really, I mean it05:15
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Shin_Goukimay be i can get 1,2 GB buts nothing more05:16
avalostkemik, with x and all the other processess i'd think the log's and whatnot would fill 700mb in no time05:16
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kemikShin_Gouki:  yes, http://www.binonabiso.com/en/Ubuntu-miniRAM-HOWTO.html05:16
ccookecatfox: sorry, had to vanish for a bit. Did that help?05:16
kemikavalost:  well it wont05:16
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tritiumAnguS: hoary or breezy?05:16
Shin_Gouki1,2 GB is this engough?05:16
AnguStritium: and i really mean that breezy wiped my fucking windows boot entry out of grub each time i upgraded the kernel, i always had to add windows manually via the system\administration\boot tool05:16
tritiumsorry, RockyBurt hoary or breezy?05:16
AnguSwhich is now gone since the last upgrade05:16
tritiumAnguS: please watch your language05:16
RockyBurttritium: oh, sorry, breezy05:16
AnguStritium: breezxy05:16
kemikShin_Gouki:  read the link i gave you05:16
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JowiAnguS, if your Windows is on primary 1st partition: title           Windows + root            (hd0,0) + savedefault + makeactive + chainloader     +105:16
kemikShin_Gouki:  but 700mb is not much05:16
AnguSJowi: thanks05:17
JowiAnguS, every + is a new line05:17
kemikShin_Gouki:  1.2gb would be better ofcourse05:17
Shin_Goukithx kemik ill go now and read it!05:17
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JowiAnguS, except for the last one (+1)05:17
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AnguSJowi: sure, got that :)05:17
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tritiumAnguS: that's not normal operation.05:17
kemikavalost:  if you see the link i posted you'll see that its possible to have X with about 700mb of space05:17
mellonHi all.   Probably a stupid question: there's a bug in the disk partition resizing that's present on the breezy preview CD.   In bugzilla, it says that this bug is fixed on the colony 5 cd.   What is a colony 5 cd?05:17
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kemikavalost:  even though it's a tight fit05:18
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JowiAnguS, but really, it should only add the new kernel to the list, not delete anything...05:18
bastiwhich is the command to make a file executable?05:18
tritiumAnguS: was the windows partition detected during install?  If not, when you added it, did you run update-grub?05:18
avalostkemik, i'd say really tight :p05:18
bastichmod ??05:18
AnguSJowi: i know it should, it worked fine on hoary and on breezy in the past but... now it wipes windows out each time05:18
samuelone last time then i will stop bugging u all, is there a way to set nautilus so it dosnt show the full filename if it has more than xx characters?05:18
AnguStritium: yes it was detected during install05:18
kemikbasti:  "man chmod"05:18
AnguStritium: then on the first kernel upgrade i did it got away05:19
JowiAnguS, add the windows grub item after: ### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST - and you should be ok05:19
tritiummellon: it's a milestone release.  Go to cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/breezy05:19
kemikbasti:  and yes chmod is the 'program' ...05:19
phillipcit seems that epiphany is not saving the settings I set in about:config. How should I investigate?05:19
tritiumAnguS: sounds fishy05:19
mellonthanks!05:19
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AnguStritium: i had to add windows each time after an upgrade via that panel that is now gone05:20
Shin_GoukiTHX @ kemik i hope i ll be able to use it! (small install)05:20
tritiumRockyBurt: please dpkg -l | grep powernow05:20
AnguSbut without i was lost now as i dont know grub hehe05:20
RockyBurttritium: rocky@zebrax:~$ dpkg -l | grep powernow05:20
RockyBurtii  powernowd                             0.96-2ubuntu1                      control cpu speed and voltage using 2.6 kern05:20
kemikShin_Gouki:  mmmh.. no guarantees ;)05:20
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n00bsterok, i just installd wine, but i don'n know wher is the shortcut for it..05:21
n00bsterdont*05:21
kemikShin_Gouki:  but im running  debian+icewm on a small p2-233 comp... it's doable :)05:21
n00bsterbaa, sorry for my bad English '}05:21
Jowin00bster, no shortcut. you use it like this: wine /path/to/setup.exe05:21
Shin_Goukikemik : cooll i have exatclty this CPU :)05:21
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tritiumRockyBurt: dpkg -L powernowd will list the files in that package.  You should be able to find its config file, likely either in /etc/ or /etc/default.05:21
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RockyBurttritium: gotcha, thanks05:22
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n00bsterok, but can i create a shortcut fore it?05:22
kemikShin_Gouki:  but you have 128mb ram.. im stuck w 64.. (it's a laptop...) so you'll load stuff much faster :)05:22
avalostmakes me wonder what damn small linux is like05:22
kemikavalost:  damn small ;)05:22
mellonangus, have you tried manually editing /boot/grub/menu.lst?05:22
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tritiumAnguS: perhaps that gui you used altered grubs behavior, because windows should not ever have been deleted from the list05:22
Shin_Goukikemik : i have an USB NIC will all APT install stuff work?05:22
AnguStritium: might be, i used that tool to set windows xp as default partition05:23
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kemikShin_Gouki:  if you are somewhat experienced i would recommend you to use Vector Linux.. it's got rave reviews over att madpenguin... unfortunately i couldnt install on my laptop.. broken CDreader :|05:23
tritiumAnguS: and if you ever manually edit /boot/grub/menu.lst, always be sure to run "sudo update-grub" after05:23
AnguStritium: probably it messed up something05:23
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avalostso far e17 has taken 3 hours and 53 minutes to compile..05:23
tritiumAnguS: now that I'd believe05:23
bastikemik, seriously that manually isnt written very pedagogic...05:23
n00bstercan i create a shortcut fore wine, menually?05:23
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kemikShin_Gouki:  dont know..... you should research it beforehand05:23
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basticould u just tell me the command?05:24
Shin_Goukikemik : how to i do this?05:24
mellonOh, really?  I never do that.   :'}05:24
kemikbasti:  the man-pages seldom are.. but you should make an effort to learn howto read them..  :)05:24
Shin_Goukiif i have the modell number were can i look for support?05:24
kemikbasti:  the way to set the executeflag is "chmod +x file"05:24
lotiathis may be obvious, but is there a way to upgrade mozilla-firefox. the update manager is showing that i need to install the update, but i get an error on installation05:24
AnguSthanks for your help, im rebooting now... if you dont hear from me everything went fine :P05:24
kemikShin_Gouki:  the ubuntu-wiki / forums / google05:24
Shin_Goukikemik thx ill take a try!05:25
JowiShin_Gouki, is it a wifi-card?05:25
kemiklotia:  dont use backports05:25
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mellonHm, the man page says update-grub will regenerate menu.lst, which doesn't sound so good...05:25
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bastikemik, thats what I wrote but the file didnt turn green :S05:25
lotiakemik: is there a problem with that repository?05:25
bastigonna try as sudo05:25
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kemiklotia:  yes.. they named the package firefox and it's colliding with mozilla-firefox05:26
bastiah no I wrote -x05:26
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tritiummellon: no, you need to do that05:26
kemikbasti:  - removes ;)05:26
tritiumor the changes won't be kept05:26
ionsunbuntu-docs is failing to upgrade05:26
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avalostwho reads docs :P05:26
bastiok heeh :P05:26
kemikbasti:  if you learn to use the man-pages, you'll be far along 'mastering linux' ;)05:26
kemikman-pages and google05:26
mellonWeird.   I never do it, and haven't lost any changes.05:26
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tritiumions: you're running breezy, eh?  dist-upgrade to handle that (it'll get removed)05:27
mellonI just keep my changes out of the automatically-updated part of the file.05:27
catfoxccooke, sorry i disappeared too. i'll give that a go later, thanks very much05:27
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n00bsterwine /path/to/setup.exe ??05:27
seliniumzAo^, Has anyone answered your RAW question?05:27
ionsdist-upgrade does not05:27
ionsit fails05:28
sno_i cant access my windows partition with ubuntu - how does that work?05:28
ionsErrors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/ubuntu-docs_5.10-2_all.deb05:28
ionsE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)05:28
kemik!tell sno_ about ntfs05:28
kemiksno_ see pm05:28
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tritiumions: please don't paste05:28
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ionswas 2 lines05:28
sno_kemik thnx05:28
tritiumions: yeah, I can count, thanks.05:29
ionsjust checking05:29
tritiumrequest still stands05:29
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jimmythescumbagGREETINGS05:31
Lord_Vaderubuntu has random lockup with xorg when using the nvidia drivers05:31
Lord_Vaderall versions05:31
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Lord_Vaderonly slackware is stable with nvidia drivers05:31
Lord_Vaderany know of a solution05:31
joachim_what do I need to add to .bash_profile so one tab lists possible completions?05:31
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Lord_Vaderhappens more frequenty in gentoo05:31
kemikLord_Vader:  install slackware05:31
kemik;)05:31
kemikhehe05:31
Lord_Vaderhehe05:31
blekosanyone know how i can get the updates avail?05:31
Lord_Vaderslackware == kick ass05:31
jimmythescumbagubuntu keeps taking a dump in the homeless childrens book donation box, why?05:31
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jimmythescumbagthose poor kids have to read shitty books05:32
jimmythescumbagwith crap on them05:32
jimmythescumbageven if you wipe it off, it dosn't go away05:32
kemikjimmythescumbag:  try #ubuntu-offtopic05:32
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sambagirllordvader you still here?05:34
sambagirllord_vader you still here?05:34
sno_how can i delete a folder?05:34
sambagirldel *.*05:34
sambagirl:D05:34
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tritiumwhois jimmythescumbag05:34
sno_oh thx :>05:34
wickedpuppy...05:34
blekosanyone know how i can get the updates avail?05:34
blekoslol05:34
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blekossno don't do that...05:34
wickedpuppyfolder sambagirl ... its rmdir05:34
jimmythescumbagnice one tritium05:34
blekos:|)005:35
stevecan someone help me install my ati x800xl, nothing i do seems to work05:35
Lord_Vadersambagirl: yes im here05:35
wickedpuppypls don't do that to users asking for help sambagirl05:35
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sno_why not blekos?05:35
Jowisno_, rm -rf foldername (-rf means recursively force delete all the files in that folder)05:35
sambagirllord_vader your name is wayne from australia?05:35
blekos:))05:35
Lord_Vaderrm -rf05:35
tritiumjimmythescumbag: please keep that in -offtopic05:35
Lord_Vaderrm -rf /path to folder05:35
blekosrm 0rf05:35
blekosRemoVe -rf05:35
RenaGadehello is anyone a helper here ?05:35
blekoscheck tha man05:35
jimmythescumbagsambagirl, please, keep that in off-topic05:36
blekosdo man rm for more info05:36
tritiumRenaGade: most are05:36
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RenaGadeok05:36
sambagirldamnit jimmy i am just asking a simple question. and i did already so relax.05:36
RenaGadei have a question on this site http://www.ubuntu.com/05:36
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blekosanybody had problem with updating??05:36
Lord_Vadersambagirl: no05:36
RenaGadeare the linux cd's are free and shipping to  ?05:37
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blekosif u r asking for ubuntu yes05:37
blekosthe're free05:37
RenaGadeok ty05:37
blekosbut till the release none will be sent05:37
blekos(13 october)05:37
RenaGadeok cause im in florida05:37
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jimmythescumbagRenaGade, keep that in offtopic please05:38
RenaGadeok sorry05:38
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tritiumRenaGade: you're free to ask that.  It was not offtopic05:38
RenaGadeoh ok05:38
sambagirlhow do you expect anyone to just happen to be in offtopic when private messaging is turned off?05:38
sambagirlgeez05:39
wickedpuppypm is turn off ?05:39
tritiumsambagirl: ?05:39
blekostritium, how can i get the updates?05:39
tritiumblekos: what do you mean?05:39
sambagirlbbl chao05:39
tritiumsambagirl: /join #ubuntu-offtopic05:39
tritiumdoesn't require private messaging05:39
blekoswell i had a problem running the update manager05:39
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tritiumblekos: please be specific05:40
blekossorry, give me a sec to try again05:40
RenaGadeok thanks for your help  :-)05:40
AnswerWhen formatting a partition for Linux Ext3, what is the best "Cluster Size"  1k, 2k, 4k ?05:40
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pregoAnswer, afaik, you should let it decide...05:40
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tritiumAnswer: there is no "best".  Like all things, it's a tradeoff.05:41
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Answertritium: Please explain pros and cons of the tradeoff05:41
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Shin_Goukikemik u still there?05:41
stefanomasinihi. I just installed ubuntu. I loved the graphical partitioning tool. How can I start it again on my installed system to partition a new disk I just installed?05:41
tritiumAnswer: tradeoff between average file size and fs performance05:41
Answertritium: so which one did you pick05:42
havocAnswer: smaller block size is *generally* more efficient, but limits the size of the partition as there are a finite number of addressable blocks05:42
Shin_Goukiit seems i was able to get 4,2 GB diskspace, will this & 128 MB ramm enough for ubuntu?05:42
tritiumAnswer: I leave it at the default, and don't worry about it.05:42
joachim_stefanomasini, gparted maybe?05:42
blekosi run the update manager and when i choose install05:42
Jowistefanomasini, gparted is one of them.05:42
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blekosi get the following error message05:42
blekosE: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)05:42
blekosE: Unable to lock the download directory05:42
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Plukl05:42
havocAnswer: efficient in terms of disk usage that is, not in terms of performance05:42
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Whistleri am getting http://pastebin.com/377794 what should i do?05:42
stefanomasinijoachim_: it that it? Wait... by "graphical" I meant graphical _text_ interface05:42
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Seveasblekos, close synaptic05:42
pregoShin_Gouki, a bit low values but could do05:43
AnswerOK I have plenty of disk space, I want the best performance05:43
blekosi did05:43
Jowiblekos, make sure you have not started another package manager like aptitude05:43
Shin_Goukii just need a baisc SOHO system,05:43
pregoAnswer, use reiserfs ;-P05:43
Answerblekos:  killall synaptic05:43
tritiumAnswer: havoc seems more knowledgeable than I am in that area.05:43
kemikShin_Gouki:  im here05:43
Answerprego: Is reiserfs the bestest?  what about jfs and ext305:43
Shin_Goukiwhat firewalls u guys suggest for use with ubuntuu?05:43
blekosnoone is running05:43
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Whistleri am getting http://pastebin.com/377794 what should i do?05:43
blekosshin gouki05:43
havocAnswer: just use the default05:43
kemikShin_Gouki:  i would *not* recommend using gnome.. it will take *looong* loading times05:43
blekosfirestarter05:43
joachim_graphical _text_ interface <- evil evil! ;)05:43
kemikShin_Gouki:  XFCE or IceWM is the way togo05:44
Answerhavoc: is ext3 the best partition type?05:44
joachim_gparted is very nice to use :)05:44
blekoswhat i do next seveas05:44
Shin_Gouki@kemik HOW olng? ^^ 1 /2 min?05:44
pregoAnswer, I'm happy with reiserfs (reiser3, I guess).05:44
havocAnswer: if you choose too small a block size you may need to use a smaller partition size05:44
kemikShin_Gouki:  loading gnome took about 5-8minutes on a p2-233 64mb ram05:44
tritiumAnswer: I personally would not recommend reiserfs, as it has massively corrupted for me in the past05:44
Shin_Goukikemik: and new applicatio0ns?05:44
kemikShin_Gouki:  loading firefox, another 40-80seconds. and so on05:44
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stefanomasinijoachim_: I can't really use gparted. My system is a server, I don't want X05:45
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blekoshmm, next, what do i do guys?05:45
AnswerLet's have a poll everyone, which is the best filesystem:  Ext3, JFS or Reiserfs?05:45
havocAnswer: ext3 is probably to *easiest* and more reliable option, but I'm sure there are others here like prego that use either reiserfs or others05:45
Dr_Willisthers a framebuffer version of qt_parted I think. :P05:45
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Whistleri am getting http://pastebin.com/377794 what should i do?05:45
tritiumkemik: you must have a really slow machine?05:45
Whistlerany ideas?05:45
wickedpuppyWhistler, get the library ?05:45
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Jowiblekos, does "sudo aptitude" give you errors as well?05:45
pregohavoc, let's hope it does not get corrupted 8-P05:45
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havocprego: heh :)05:46
havocI just use ext305:46
stefanomasiniI was kinda wondering what was the one used in the installer! :)05:46
havocit "works"05:46
Whistlerwickedpuppy how do i do that?05:46
Jowiext3 out of habit really.05:46
wickedpuppysynaptic05:46
blekosno05:46
kemiktritium:  my parents computer... had to reinstall it when i was there... and had misplaced the networkdriver for win98.. so the option was Ubuntu w/gnome or Win2k05:46
pregohavoc, I did use ext3 at my RH7.x system, but when I switched to ubuntu I have reiser a try and I didn't notice anything disgusting...05:46
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Shin_Goukiright kemik!05:46
Jowiblekos, good, so quit aptitude and try "sudo synaptic" again05:46
Whistleri am using ext3 and i am happy about ir05:46
Whistler*it05:47
kemiktritium:  but since Ubuntu w/gnome isnt feasible really, they've gotten a new computer ... :)05:47
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tritiumkemik: heh05:47
kemikShin_Gouki:  in short: ubuntu w/gnome *works* but you'll never use it :)05:47
thesilentkilleri am trying to add additional repositories..but i see that all hoary backports are empty (http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/). because of this 'apt-get update' is failing for me05:47
thesilentkillerany clues anyone?05:47
Shin_Goukikemik!: i am at excatly same situtioan: parents PC: Win98 old -slow, now i want linux!05:47
stefanomasinipartman! that's it!05:47
Jowithesilentkiller, yeah, try another mirror for the backports. mirrormax has been shut down05:47
thesilentkilleroh i c...thanks :)05:48
bastiis there any good emule client under ubuntu?05:48
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kemikShin_Gouki:  id try with XFCE4 then.. but be aware, the automagic of adding USB devices is lost when not using gnome05:48
kemikShin_Gouki:  so you'll have to tweak alittle to get cameras and usb-printers etc working :/05:48
Tomcat_basti: amule is decent.05:48
Shin_Goukikemik: which means i have to handle "hotpluggin" <<mayself>>?05:48
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pregokemik, sure. However, dmesg is your friend, there, isn't it?05:49
kemikShin_Gouki:  mmh.. or at least tweak abit with hotplug05:49
bastithanks Tomcat_05:49
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catfoxanyone know what ubuntu support is like for ipod nano's?05:49
tritiumhey nalioth05:49
Jowigot to go. bbl. bye everyone05:49
naliothmorning all you work shirkers05:49
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kemiki got their usb-camera to work.. but not automagic-detected so i figured i couldnt leave my parents with that solution05:49
Shin_Goukikemik: hmm ^^ gnome ssems fine with me ... is there a possibility to test both : gnome & XFCE4? i now managed to get 4GB dsik Space!!05:50
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kemikunless i was going todo techsupport everytime they wanna see pictures ;)05:50
blekosstill getting the same error...05:50
Whistlerhow do i convert rpm to deb?05:50
kemikShin_Gouki:  of course.. do the full ubuntuinstall, and then apt-get xfce405:50
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kemikWhistler:  alien05:50
naliothWhistler: you shouldnt05:50
havocwickedpuppy: alien05:50
naliothWhistler: what program do you want?05:50
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tritiumWhistler: alien, but in general, it's better to use native ubuntu .debs05:50
havocand what nalioth said05:50
Whistleri need lib05:50
Whistlerand i cant find native one05:51
havocWhistler: which lib?05:51
tritiumwhich one, Whistler?  It's likely available05:51
naliothWhistler: theres about 30000000 of em05:51
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Shin_Goukikemik : full doesnt sound good i want decide almost everything at the installation is this possible?05:51
pregoShin_Gouki, I would say that 4Gb is enough. Not much, but enough.05:51
Whistlerlibstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.305:51
kemikShin_Gouki:  then you have to go with "server" and add packages yourself05:51
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Whistleranybody heard of libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 ?05:51
pregoShin_Gouki, IMHO your major problem is the RAM 128MB only05:51
Shin_Goukii will cut off all Video suport Audio will be05:51
kemikShin_Gouki:  depending on your linux experience, that's a good or bad choice ;)05:51
kemikprego:  a p2-233 isnt much to brag with tho.. even if you have 256mb of ram, it wont be quick05:52
Shin_Goukiprego there is no discussion about the RAM its a old system u cant buy new one of those and i dont want to buy ..05:52
kemikprego:  the damn HD's on those machines are sooo slow ;)05:52
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naliothWhistler: search in synaptic for libstdc++05:52
tritiumor use apt-cache search05:52
Shin_Goukikemik ur right : the HDs are sOOOOO slow o_O05:52
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havocmaybe he thinks he needs it cuz he's trying to build something from source rather than using a package05:53
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pregokemik, Shin_Gouki, I've installed ubuntu hoary at my K6-II+ 500MHz, 384MB RAM and runs a bit slow but OK. Sure that CPU is perhaps a bit faster than a P2-233, but not that much, I guess.05:53
kemikShin_Gouki:  as i said tho.. i'd go with a "server-install" and then apt-get the X system along with XFCE05:53
tritiumhavoc: there are dev. libs available for that05:54
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Shin_Goukikemik ur right ill try this one!05:54
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kemikprego:  oh that's a nice system.. i've got a celeron450 with 512mb ram.. its running "ok" ...05:54
blekoshow do i update th source.list file?05:54
Shin_Goukikemik, at which point of the installation ill be ask the "server" question?05:54
kemikbut it has a 'new' HD05:54
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kemikShin_Gouki:  first question05:54
blekosthe commamd is sudo update....?05:54
tritiumblekos: either with synaptic, or edit /etc/apt/sources.list05:55
kemikShin_Gouki:  you have to type "server" at the prompt05:55
Shin_Goukikemik, thx!05:55
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kemikShin_Gouki:  maybe print that mini-ram howto.. it'll tell you how to get X on the system05:55
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pregoShin_Gouki, good luck!!05:55
kemikShin_Gouki:  and i hope you have an internetconnection (and that it'll work :) )05:55
blekosyes i have done that,05:55
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kemikgoodluck05:55
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blekosbut what is the command to refresh the list into the system...05:55
Shin_Goukikemik, yes i do not fear this anymore.. but willi be able to use IRC after install?05:55
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kevorhow's that commandline program called that outputs big letters of the input text?05:56
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danfgdo you guys have any idea in which directory should I install Java Runtime Environment files?05:56
kemikShin_Gouki:  yeah.. apt-get install irssi05:56
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pregokevor, banner05:56
kemikShin_Gouki:  it's ncurses based.. so it'll work even w/o X05:56
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digitizeyes irssi is great05:56
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tritiumdanfg: I'd take your .bin from Sun, and build a .deb with make-jpkg (in java-package)05:56
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tritium!tell danfg about sunjava05:56
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naliothtritium: we have debs now05:57
kevorprego: not exactly what i mean, i mean the one that outputs horizontally wiht |/\ sings05:57
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naliothtritium: take it easy on em05:57
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naliothtritium: +r please05:57
sno_some1 know a good cd ripper?05:57
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Shin_Goukikemik, hmmm thx i see! but that wont work for a HTML browser right? ^_~05:57
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fdsafq: is there a netinstall for 5.04 ?05:57
kemikShin_Gouki:  "links" or "lynx"05:57
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kemikShin_Gouki:  but i'm not sure how many webpages they can display these days...05:58
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danfgthanks tritium :)05:58
Shin_Goukikemik , very thx , u title should be : low level specialists:05:58
Shin_Goukithe mans u need today the most ^^05:59
fdsafnetinstalll.... anyone?05:59
tritiumdanfg: sure :)  If that's too much hassle, there are pre-made .debs, as nalioth points out.  I just question the legality of distributing them, so I won't officially sanction them.05:59
Shin_Goukikemik : because everyone can get linux on a "new" system but old hardware is lot of more work..05:59
kemikheehe :)06:00
naliothtritium: then give em a warning and show em the link :)06:00
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mahangu__im just playing wesnoth06:00
mahangu__it the rocks06:00
tritiumfdsaf: see the wiki Installation page.06:01
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Dr_Willisunless the system is too new. :P06:01
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pregofdsaf, there was not for 4.10.... you had to netinstall debian and ubuntize it later... I don't really know for 5.04 or 5.10.06:02
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joyzzewhere is grub.conf kept ?06:02
tritiumjoyzze: /boot/grub/menu.lst06:03
fdsafyeah 'Installation/Netboot' in wiki i think06:03
Shin_Goukikemik , one "last" question: i did start now 5.04 release download, will this be fine?06:03
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tritiumyes, fdsaf, that's it06:03
sno_can someone tell me how to optimize my sources.list?06:03
naliothShin_Gouki: you'll be fine06:03
nalioth!tell sno_ about sources06:03
jgbwhat is the default DocumentRoot for apache on 5.04?06:03
naliothsno_: don't use unofficial repos06:03
tritiumjgb: I believe /var/www06:04
jgbtritium: ty06:04
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sno_nalioth: i got backports problems06:04
sno_:>06:04
naliothsno_: yes you do06:04
thesilentkillerive googled for quite a long time now. but i cant get to the end of it. how do i install jdk1.5?06:04
nalioththesilentkiller: hoary or breezy?06:04
thesilentkillernalioth: hoary06:05
nalioththesilentkiller: http://www.giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/06:05
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thesilentkillernalioth: can you please give me a little more info on how to use the files up there...mm..err...newbie :-s06:06
beekayis anyone else having problems updating mozilla firefox?06:06
kemikShin_Gouki:  yeah it'll be fine i think.. 5.10 isnt really stable yet (14more days! )06:06
sno_beekay: yes, me.06:06
beekay:(06:06
beekaydoes it say it cant find the server06:06
sno_no, just it cant do updates06:06
tritiumah, the troubles with backports06:07
beekayIt is not possible to upgrade all packages.06:07
beekayThis means that besides the actual upgrade of the packages some further action (such as installing or removing packages) is required. Please use Synaptic "Smart Upgrade" or "apt-get dist-upgrade" to fix the situation.06:07
nalioththesilentkiller: once you get the one you want, open a terminal to where it is and type "sudo dpkg -i filename.deb"06:07
naliothsno_: comment your backports out06:07
thesilentkillernalioth: k, thanks06:07
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Whistlerhow do i use my joystick with ubuntu?06:08
Shin_Goukikemik: spam : just 6 hours more to go before i ll have the iso , i think i am very exited LOL06:08
DPadclearHow do you list all installed packages with dpkg and how do you tell which package a file comes from (assuming you're looking at a file in your /usr/bin dir)?06:08
kemikShin_Gouki:  oouch.. 6hours :)06:09
Shin_Goukikemik: yes i only have 24 kbyte/s down06:10
kennethloveis the CD provided in the topic the same as the Breezy Badger preview?06:10
kemik:/06:10
naliothkennethlove: yes06:10
tritiumDPadclear: dpkg -l to list installed files.  dpkg -S <filename> for the second question06:10
kennethlovenalioth: thanks, thought so.06:10
kennethlovei'm having problems upgrading. anyone want to rescue my box?06:10
danfgtritium, wierd, i'm trying to install Sun's JRE, falling miserably. I downloaded jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin. when i "sudo apt-get ...", i get "Couldn't find java-package". If i try "fakeroot ...", "command not found"06:11
beekayW: Failed to fetch http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/main/binary-i386/firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu15_i386.deb06:11
beekay  404 Not Found06:11
beekayW: Failed to fetch http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/main/binary-i386/mozilla-firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu15_all.deb06:11
beekay  404 Not Found06:11
beekaywhy cant i do that06:11
tritiumbeekay: don't paste!06:11
kemikdont paste in here06:11
beekayim sorry06:11
kemikREAD TOPIC06:11
tritiumdanfg: you need to enable the multiverse repo06:12
Shin_Gouki@kemik : do u have "other" low level guids which i can read in the mean time??06:12
thesilentkillerbeekay: the mirror site is down. use some other mirror06:12
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kemikShin_Gouki:  not really...06:12
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kemikgtg::food06:12
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tritium!tell danfg about repositories06:12
Shin_Goukikemik, :/ to bad  that should be an important topic.. and so less documentation :/06:13
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sno_my xmms hangs up when it should play an mp3 file.. strange. :I06:13
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DeVeRaSguys, i installed ubuntu with apt-get and i don't kow the admin password. doesn't ask for noting so i can't do anything... how do i set up it?06:14
bob2DeVeRaS: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo06:14
bob2DeVeRaS: tho I don't know how you can "install ubuntu with apt-get"06:14
kemikShin_Gouki:  mm, but debian/ubuntu isnt really for the old hw... i'd look into slackware / vectorlinux if you want real performance06:14
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jklsjsdlsanyone know off a linux programe that reads .ctf files06:15
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chicken-manwhat is the command that shows how much disk space you have free ?06:15
kennethlovealright. i tried using the repositories last night, but that failed, so i downloaded the Breezy CD and now it's failing. install works fine but it never successfully boots.06:15
jklsjsdlsthere catalog files of some sort06:15
kemikbob2:  what, you never did apt-get install ubuntu? =)06:15
kemikchicken-man:  df06:15
DeVeRaSbob2 i mean install phpbb206:15
tritiumkennethlove: breezy is still in development06:15
bob2DeVeRaS: also, #debian is not an approriate channel to ask ubuntu questions06:15
kennethlovetritium: yes, i know. but it's installable.06:15
DrTigerwhen will breezy support ATI dri again?06:15
chicken-mankemik, thanks06:15
bob2DeVeRaS: it has no /usr/share/doc/phpbb2/?06:15
DeVeRaSguys, i installed phpbb2 with apt-get and i don't kow the admin password. doesn't ask for noting so i can't do anything... how do i set up it?06:15
bob2DeVeRaS: as much as hoary did06:15
tritiumkennethlove: yes, it is06:15
DeVeRaSlet me check06:16
zAo^selinium, sorry, was afk. No; no1 did answer. You know a programm for that?06:16
DeVeRaSno, no doc06:16
DeVeRaSi don't have a login, nor i was asked for one...06:17
kennethlovetritium: after the CD  install, when it goes to finish installation by installing files off the hard disk, it keeps freezing at 4%.06:17
seliniumzAo^, look up dcraw in synaptic06:17
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ckruegerhas anyone ever messed with Firestarter?06:17
tritiumkennethlove: well, hopefully it'll work for you when it's released06:18
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seliniumckrueger, yep06:18
ckruegeri'm trying to get my buddy's fileserver/router set up, but he refuses to learn iptables or anything06:18
ckruegerhe just wants point-and-click06:18
zAo^selinium, but how can I get thumbnails in -for example- nautilus/gthumb2?06:18
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ckruegerso i'm trying to figure this piece of crap out to get him going06:18
seliniumfirestarter is for him then!06:18
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ckruegerselinium, i'm getting weird errors regarding the DHCP daemon06:18
joachim_is there somewhere I can give a list of sudo commands I can allow myself to do without the sudo?06:18
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jjazzjoachim_:  man sudoers06:18
seliniumckrueger, What are you trying to do?06:19
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ckruegerselinium, i'm trying to set up internet connection sharing (routing) with a DHCP server06:19
kenroFree NetRadio! Boycott everything blocking streaming over their network!06:19
ckruegerselinium, he's an Apple fanboy06:19
ckruegerselinium, so point-and-click is critical06:19
seliniumk So have you installed firestarter?06:20
ckruegerthat's insulting06:20
ckruegerlol06:20
ckruegeryes, it is installed06:20
ckruegerand it works when it's not trying to do ip masq06:20
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stevecan anyone help me install my x800xl?06:20
selinium:)06:20
kennethlovehah. so no help. :)06:20
ckruegerhowever, every time i try to start it with ICS enabled it gives an error06:20
ckruegerselinium, and syslog says "No subnet declaration for eth0 (x.x.x.x)06:20
stevethe fglrx driver doesn't seem to have my video card supported06:20
ckruegeri've edited the /etc/default/dhcp file and changed INTERFACES to eth106:21
ckruegerwhich is the internal net06:21
ckruegerand i've even manually edited the /etc/init.d/dhcp script and set it to eth1 there as well06:21
tritiumkenro: you don't network admins to have the right to block what they want?06:21
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ckruegerand it still kicks back the "No subnet declaration for eth0" every time it tries to start (at the hands of Firestarter)06:21
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ckruegerselinium, any ideas?06:23
MachineScrewis there any way to stop services from loading on boot in Breezy06:23
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seliniumckrueger, It's Ok. I use it to control my webservers ports, not quite sure I konw enough to help. Have looked in the preferences to see whether you are blocking any of the broadcast messages?06:23
MachineScrewbum dosn't work06:23
kenrotritium: Don't we have the right to access every legal service anywhere?06:23
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BurgerMannI have installed sshd on my server. Suddenly I can't connect to it. Now I partly know what do to to gain access again, something like RSA fingerprint in a local file that needs to be flushed or somehting. Does anyone know what file it is?06:23
ckruegerselinium, it doesn't even get to the point where the service can broadcast messages06:23
tritiumkenro: not on others' networks, if they don't want you to06:24
MachineScrewany one06:24
MachineScrewis there any way to stop services from loading on boot in Breezy06:24
ckruegerselinium, but internal net broadcast filtering is disabled anyway06:24
MachineScrewbum dosn't work06:24
tritiumbummer, dude06:24
kenrotritium: I could understand blocking gnuttella, but web-based radio broadcasts?06:24
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tritiumkenro: they can do whatever theyt want with their own networks.06:25
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snorksMachineScrew: Find out what the service is called. Find out which runlevel it is. rm the entry06:25
ubuntu_fanclear06:25
ubuntu_fanhey guys06:25
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seliniumckrueger, Like i said I am no TCP/IP guru. If you cant get any help here, try #linux :) You seem to konw more than me on this subject! :)06:25
MachineScrew?06:25
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ckruegerselinium, heh, thanks for your help06:25
MachineScrewisn't that bad06:25
ckruegerselinium, one final question though...  you use it for IP masquerading, no?06:25
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ckruegerselinium, if so, are you using the dhcp server version 2 or 3?06:26
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kenrotritium: Which is irrelevent by now. Took long enough, but I seem to be connected. New problem, though -- My antiquated pcspeaker system seems not equal to the task...06:26
snorksMachineScrew: let's say you want sshd to NOT start on bootup. check inside /etc/init.d/ to get the name (example: sshd). Find out what run level it is by checking the /etc/rc0-7.d06:26
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rybackhi06:26
ubuntu_fancan anyone please tell me where is the X server configure file located in Ubuntu i would like to chage my resolution06:27
seliniumckrueger, I just use it to open/close ports and to drop packet probes.06:27
snorksMachineScrew: look for anything like S20sshd (s means start). if you find it in lets say /etc/rc3.d, type rm S20sshd06:27
tritiumubuntu_fan: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:27
ckruegerselinium, ahh, ok06:27
spiralhi06:27
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ckruegerselinium, then tell me this...  by default, does it block everything until you make exclusive allow declarations?06:27
ubuntu_fantritium, thanks06:27
snorksMachineScrew: if you ls in /etc/, you will see the rc#.d im talking about06:27
tritiumubuntu_fan: the file is /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but you don't want to edit it by hand, in general, unless you have no choice06:27
stevei just downloaded a driver, how do i install it?06:27
seliniumckrueger, incoming, yes outgoing no06:27
stevefglrx64_6_8_0-8.16.20-1.x86_64.rpm, how would i install that06:28
kenrotritium: They put it up for public access, they owe the public. They should otherwise lock access, or disclaim the * out of it.06:28
tritiumsteve: don't use the rpm.  Use an ubuntu .deb06:28
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seliniumckrueger, in FS /prefs /Network settings does it 'see' you network?06:28
snorksMachineScrew: did you understand any of that?06:28
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ubuntu_fantritium,  yea i go it now THANKS06:28
tritiumkenro: no, various organizations have networks for _their own_ needs, not the needs of the general public06:29
stevei downloaded the ati drivers off of ubuntu, but they don't support my video card or are out of date for some reason06:29
steveby using sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx06:29
ckruegerselinium, yep, which is why it works fine with ICS disabled06:29
kenrotritium: Disclaim it, then.06:29
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ckruegerselinium, i'm just finding that i get that DHCP error every time it tries to start it with ICS enabled06:29
tritiumkenro: ?06:30
seliniumckrueger, have you set the DHCP for local network to on?06:30
MachineScrewalso my ubuntu splash screen isn't coming up06:30
tritiumkenro: by the way, this is offtopic06:30
ckruegerselinium, yep06:30
MachineScrewwhat is up with that06:30
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ckruegerselinium, DHCP starts fine whenever i manually call the init script now06:30
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seliniumckrueger, I am running out of ideas!06:30
ckruegerselinium, it just chokes on its own dick whenever it's done through firestarter06:30
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kenrotritium: Right. Switch over to #network-rights-and-responsibilities06:31
stevei'm on amd64 ubuntu btw06:31
tritiumno thanks, kenro06:31
steveanyone know where i can get the 64bit drivers for an ati x800xl?06:31
kenrotritium: ;)06:31
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seliniumckrueger, Sry, beats me!06:31
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naliothsteve: that may be your problem06:31
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ckruegerselinium, heh, thanks anyway for trying :)06:32
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stevewhat is my problem?06:32
selinium:)06:32
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naliothwtf06:33
ckruegerselinium, i figured it out06:33
bob2steve: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto06:33
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bob2steve: if that doesn't work in breezy, please file a bug06:33
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seliniumckrueger, go on then :)06:34
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stevebreezy?06:34
naliothbots are running wild today06:35
tritiumsteve: the next stable release, due out in mid October06:35
stevei don't have breezy though..?06:35
seliniumckrueger, WHat was it?06:35
kenroKicker just crashed on me.06:36
puffI need an app to convert ogg files to mp3 files, so they'll play on my obsolete mp3-only player.06:36
tritiumsteve: there are only preview releases of breezy out at this point06:36
bob2steve: try it anyway06:36
kenroThat never happened in fBSD06:36
stevebob2,  i tried https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI06:36
steveit doesn't work out for me06:36
stevei looked at the error log, and it couldn't find my card06:36
puffI'm eagerly looking forward to breezy, I think/hope it will fix certain kernel problems that I've been having trouble with.06:36
stevex800xl doesn't seem to be on the list as well06:36
tritiumpuff: you sure you want to do lossy-to-lossy format conversion?06:37
sno_XMMS doesn't play mp3s.. it just hangs up. - can someone help me?06:37
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stevebob2, by the way,  i'm using aa 6600gt right now, if i follow those steps on my 660gt, will that work?06:37
stevesno_ change the sound output06:37
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bob2sno_: change it to use esound for output06:38
bob2steve: should do06:38
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Hendrici just finished install breezy on my old cpu.. it can't display the login screen (monitor goes standby)... i think it can't support the default screen size.. how can i change default resolution?06:38
stevebob2, they say to Edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change "ati" to "fglrx", perhaps with a command like:06:39
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tritiumsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, after dropping to a virtual conosole, Hendric06:39
stevebob2 but i dont' have any "ati" written in there06:39
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tritiumconsole even06:39
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MMXGNhello06:41
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pluffsyhello06:42
indypendehow can i change my freenode irc password?06:43
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pluffsyI'm having some troubles that used to be random (from multiple installations of ubuntu 5.04) but now they've stuck. every time I start gnome I get problems with applets (they won't start) and nautilus won't start. The first error I get is something like couldn't start bonobo-activation server.06:43
pluffsyany ideas of what I can do?06:44
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indypendehow can i change my freenode irc password?06:44
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pufftritium: Well, I can re-rip some of them, but others I loaned the CD to a friend.06:45
naliothbob2: is it me or do the bots wait until the channel goes -r to return?06:45
kumakunAnyone install the breezy update and have it hose their firefox?06:45
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fredforfaen!breezy06:45
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade06:45
kumakunYes, yes, that's all well and good.06:46
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kumakunI know where to find info on it. I'm looking for whether this is isolated or not06:46
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kinhuanyone here?06:46
kumakunI am06:47
naliothkinhu: no we're all at the zoo06:47
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kinhudo u know that spript that automatically mount NTFS pastitons on ubuntu desktop?06:47
kinhuwhere i can find it?06:47
kumakunOh, there we go. I was wondering if anyone was actually here to give me a proper answer.06:47
MMXGNanybody has managed to have 3d acceleration with ati cards in breezy?06:47
ccookeWe need an FAQ, and a link to it in the title...06:47
naliothubotu: tell kinhu about windowsdrives06:48
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kinhuMMXGN, i want that too!06:48
g|patricksomeone here using kopete?06:48
ccookeMMXGN: yes.06:48
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kinhummxgn, wich VSG u have?06:49
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kinhuvga*06:49
MMXGNradeon 9600xt06:49
MMXGNand i have failed to have 3d accell, says that xfree86-dri is not present06:49
ccookeMMXGN: if you run fglrxinfo, what does it say?06:50
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MMXGNpaste here?06:51
naliothmxpxpod: not here06:51
naliothMMXGN: not here06:51
naliothubotu: tell MMXGN about paste06:51
MMXGNw8 a bit then plz :)06:51
MMXGNyeah i saw it06:51
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MMXGNhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/263806:52
MMXGN:)06:52
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MMXGNi have apt-getted the corresponding restricted modules, yet...06:53
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ccookeMMXGN: have you loaded the fglrx module?06:53
ccookeMMXGN: sudo modprobe fglrx06:54
kinhuMMXGN, where u downloaded your drivers for radeon9600 series?06:54
ccookekinhu: they're in Hoary and Breezy already.06:54
MMXGNyes06:54
kinhualready?06:54
kinhuomg06:54
MMXGNalso i have an nforce2 chipset06:54
kinhui didin knwe it!06:54
ccookekinhu: ... hell, they were in warty06:54
MMXGNbut when i put what they say apout agpthing06:54
MMXGNthe screen doesnt load at all06:55
MMXGN:(06:55
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ccookeMMXGN: doesn't load how?06:55
MMXGNi mean06:55
BusMasteris there a recommended way to compile a vanilla kernel for Ubuntu..? like make-kpkg is for debian?06:55
MMXGNit stays blank with a cursor06:55
kinhuwhat i have to do to activate my ATI dirver ?06:55
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MMXGNw8 to try sth06:56
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mopatophey - quickie, is user_xattr available with the kernels in Breezy?06:57
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MMXGNheck06:58
mopatopof course I'm using ext306:58
nickrudmopatop, yes06:58
MMXGNi was wrong, it worket with internalagppart thingy but still no 3d accell :()06:58
mopatopnickrud: cheers06:58
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nickrudBusMaster, you make a kernel just like in debian06:59
naliothnickrud: wow! you do live b4 noon06:59
nickrudheh06:59
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nickrudearly to rise, late to bed, that's me06:59
BusMasternickrud, oh cool07:00
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mopatopnickrud: seems to have remounted fine, cheers07:01
nickrudmopatop, np07:01
mopatopI recommend everyone gives beagle a spin :)07:01
mopatopit's, well, very impressive07:01
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MMXGNoh :(07:04
MMXGNany other ideas?07:04
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ryufreakhow do i find out my kernel version?07:07
ryufreakshould be 5.04 right?07:07
kennethloveuname -a, i think07:07
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kinhudoes anyone here knows why i have to go "pppoeconf" every time i start ubuntu???07:08
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bud_hello07:10
bud_need help ove configuring procmail07:11
bud_im using ubuntu 5.10 breezy07:11
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bud_can anyone help07:12
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ThJhi! i'm migrating web/mail users over from a debian server to an ubuntu server. i'm using qmail/vpopmail on the debian box, but i dislike it because its inconvenient to set up and you have to compile it, etc... what mail system do you people recommend for web/mail hosting combos?07:12
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bud_ok i see07:12
ThJi would like to keep the ability for my customers to administer their e-mail domains.07:13
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bud_i have configured procmail, but it doesnt deliver mail where i have configured, and in /var/mail.log is a lot of shit things what i havent configured07:14
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BiSK-8hello07:15
bud_anyone know a good howto07:15
BiSK-8who helped me today with the bluetooth?07:15
bud_i have googled but havent found anything usefull07:15
putz_kinhudoes any1 knows why i have to type "pppoeconf" every time i lo into ubuntu?07:15
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kumakunWow..Breezy is not playing nice with firefox...07:15
lsuactiafnerhda: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy } failed opcode was: unknown hda: ATAPI reset complete end_request: I/O error dev hda, sector 0 Buffer I/O error on device hda, logical block 007:15
lsuactiafnerwhat the hell?07:15
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ompaulbud_ http://www.xs4all.nl/~sister/mirror/procmail/07:16
thundrcleezeyou're a few seconds late, ompaul07:16
BiSK-8i damn tried 2 update 2 breezy and ****ed up my system, i just formatted07:17
BiSK-8im on hoary07:17
ompaulthundrcleeze, if only people waited 10/15 minutes07:17
BiSK-8and downloading breezy07:17
ompaulahh well07:17
putz_kinhudoes any1 knows why i have to type "pppoeconf" every time i lo into ubuntu?07:17
Quinthiuslsuactiafner: looks like bad disk, bad cable, or bad ide port :P07:17
BiSK-8putz_kinhu, no07:17
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putz_kinhuT_T07:17
kumakunSo far the only thing breezy has done to my system is not let me use firefox07:17
ompaulputz_kinhu, have a look at system administration networking and set your options from there07:17
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Quinthiuslsuactiafner: i've had lots of problems with crappy cables that cause i/o errors like that07:17
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MMXGNanybody has managed to have ati opengl acceleration with breezy and is able to help me?07:19
ompaulThJ, I like postfix for mail, after that its up to you how you want to read it or pop it07:19
QuinthiusMMXGN: what's the problem?07:19
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DrTigerbreezy kills my windows boot entries every time it has to upgrade the kernel -.-07:19
ompaulMMXGN, no idea have you looked at the wiki page for ati?07:19
naliothDrTiger: if you know it happens, back up your menu.lst b4 upgrading07:19
dpro\DrTiger, slap it till it stops07:20
MMXGNit says that xfree86-dri is missing on display 0:007:20
MMXGNompaul, yes i did07:20
MMXGNno luck :(07:20
DrTigersame problem here with ati card07:20
QuinthiusMMXGN: what have you done so far? what all have you installed and configured?07:20
MMXGNxorg-driver-fglrx and restricted modules07:20
ompaulMMXGN, that is all I have to offer, from that I take it you tried the troubleshooting methods named onthat page?07:20
MMXGNfor my kernel07:20
dpro\MMXGN, did you comment the dri parts in xorg.conf?07:21
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QuinthiusMMXGN: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for DRI errors for more information as to why it's not loading07:21
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lsuactiafnerQuinthius : cant be cable, its brand new asus cable and it worked before on a cdrom07:21
FR500hello07:21
MMXGNompaul, read the whole of the binary ati drivers on wiki07:21
lsuactiafnerbut will replace cable to be usre07:21
MMXGNQuinthius, done that too, wait07:21
Quinthiuslsuactiafner: brand new doesnt mean it's not defective07:21
MMXGNto c07:21
DrTigerwhich wiki page?07:21
Quinthiuslsuactiafner: but it could be disk or ide controller too07:21
FR500i followed the wiki on how to software midi playback, but it won't work can you help me07:21
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bastiWhat is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running07:21
bastikernel? What should I respond to this?? (Hoary)07:21
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insitesis there a comparison page for fedora core and ubuntu anywhere? that lists differences like apt vs yum, etc?07:22
FR500basti: uname -a07:22
obontui have no audio in my ubuntu, can some please help?07:22
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MMXGNhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/263907:22
shadeofgreyguys whats the package i have to install to get totem to play DVD's?07:22
DrTigerbreezy really sucks07:22
DrTiger-.-07:22
GNULinuxershadeofgrey: libdvddcss07:22
GNULinuxerDrTiger: why?07:22
FR500MMXGN: libdvddcss07:22
bastiFR500, uname -a tells me the C header?07:23
MMXGNFR500, eh?07:23
QuinthiusMMXGN: do an lsmod | grep fglrx, it list anything?07:23
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MMXGNyep07:23
DrTigerbecause my battery isn't supported (I run out of power regularly because of that), I have worked for hours on the dri problem but not gotten anywhere...07:23
inc|freakynalioth: well, it just doesnt want to work either it identifies to late or whatever i always join the other channel07:23
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DrTigerand whenever it installs a new kernel it deletes my windows entry in the menu.lst07:24
naliothinc|freaky: use hte "server password" field07:24
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QuinthiusMMXGN: and you're sure you installed the restricted modules of the same version as your kernel?07:24
FR500basti: uname -a outputs something like this Linux mobile3 2.6.10-5-386 #1 Thu Sep 8 06:18:41 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux07:24
MMXGNyep :)07:24
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FR500this is what u need  2.6.10-5-38607:25
MMXGNi tried to reinstall it just to be sure and it says its the latest version07:25
QuinthiusMMXGN: dmesg | grep fglrx, anything there that looks like an error?07:25
FR500i followed the wiki on how to software midi playback, but it won't work can you help me07:25
KasperTechHi. I've got an offer for a Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo V2020 for only 1K $. But will the Intel 855GME graphics card do?07:25
MMXGNhmm, not07:25
bastiFR500, yeah but I dont understand how that is supposed to help me, I need to point out where my C header is located in the file architecture...07:26
MMXGNhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/264007:26
QuinthiusMMXGN: and have you rebooted?07:26
insiteshow does ubuntu handle proprietary thing like codecs and drivers? is there an addon repository for apt or somesuch?07:26
MMXGNQuinthius, plenty of times07:26
MMXGN:/07:26
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QuinthiusMMXGN: can you paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf?07:27
MMXGNsure07:27
naliothinsites: there are repos for most anything you want to do07:27
inc|freakyis there any way to theme kopete?07:27
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MMXGNhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/264107:28
MMXGN:)07:28
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Hendrichow do i upgrade my GTK2 to a higher version??07:28
insitesnalioth, anyone maintaing a list of these repos... need to find a few drivers like my wifi and my pwc and others before i switch over from fc07:28
naliothinsites: packages.ubuntu.com07:28
naliothinsites: if it works on fc, it'll work here07:29
insitesnalioth, does ubuntu use rpms?07:29
shadeofgreyokay look it telld me theres no installation candidate for libdvdcss -- what do i need to add  to my sources.list filke if im already running breezy?07:29
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naliothinsites: it CAN, but ubuntu debs are recommended07:29
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QuinthiusMMXGN: hmm, looks fine except for GLcore, you dont have to load it as DRI should automatically include it07:30
QuinthiusMMXGN: and i'm not sure what i2c is... i don't have that in mine07:30
shadeofgreyguys07:31
insitesnalioth, thanks... im just trying to get my feet wet in ubuntu a little..07:31
MMXGNshall that be the problem? let me check it :)07:31
insiteswill download tonight then...07:31
naliothinsites: linux is linux07:31
goofytjHere a kde user, I got this annoying problem. The mouseover-effect if the links in my main panel is completely black, I can send you a screenshot if you wish, I've been trying to change all color settings with no result. Anyone got a suggestion ?07:31
insitesbreezy decently stable?07:31
shadeofgrey....im sick and all i want to do is watch a DVD07:31
shadeofgreyinsites:  yes!07:31
naliothinsites: ubuntu is debian based07:31
QuinthiusMMXGN: i dont think it's the problem but who knows... the only suspicious thing i'm seeing so far is in the DRI warnings where it says unknown third-party board...07:31
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MMXGN:(07:32
MMXGNthough, it worked fine with sarge07:32
shadeofgreywhats the name of the repo that contains libdvdcss in breezy??07:32
MMXGNanyway, let me try removing those07:32
frenkeli have a problem with my keyboard layout07:32
WildSurgei just installed ubuntu and i have a problem with my floppy-disc07:32
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frenkelin gentoo linux it is working the way i want it, but ubuntu works different with the same settings in xorg.conf07:32
WildSurgeit just won't mount07:32
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DrTigershould DRI work for an ATI card, if you installed the binary driver from aptitude?07:33
QuinthiusDrTiger: mine does..07:33
DrTigeryeah07:33
frenkelus_intl doesn't allow me to type <`>+<e> en produce an e with ` on top of it07:33
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frenkelhow can i achieve that? i couldn't find it on the forum07:33
DrTigerbut I invested hours07:33
DrTigerand it's really frustrating me07:33
WildSurgeit says07:34
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bpfhello all07:34
MMXGNbah, wansnt that07:34
zAo^how can I go back to ubuntu "server" or minimal???07:34
WildSurgemount, special device /dev/fd0 doesn't exist07:34
Plukfrenkel, running breezy?07:34
frenkeljep07:34
bpfanyone know if the Eclipse IDE works with Hoary on amd64?07:34
Plukcheck this jut posted this :) http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7029707:34
shedizAo^: debfoster07:34
QuinthiusMMXGN: you could try a "sudo depmod -ae" and then rebooting07:34
Plukus_intl doesnt exist nomore07:34
zAo^shedi, no other way?07:34
Plukits a variant in the us keymap now07:34
MMXGNwhat does it do?07:34
MMXGN(just to know, done it)07:34
QuinthiusDrTiger: post your entire /var/log/Xorg.0.log, /etc/X11/xorg.conf, the output of "lsmod | grep fglrx", and "dmesg | grep fglrx" to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/07:35
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QuinthiusMMXGN: rebuilds module dependency cache or something..07:35
frenkelPluk, thanks, i didn' t search enough i guess :)07:35
QuinthiusMMXGN: what board do you have? 9600xt?07:35
Pluktook me 4 hours to find out myself yesterday frenkel07:35
frenkelthis is much more the way it should be :p07:35
frenkellol07:35
frenkelthanks for sharing :)07:35
Plukyw :)07:36
shedizAo^: you could do an apt-get remove --purge the things you don't want07:36
MMXGNQuinthius, yes07:36
frenkelgonna try it right away07:36
frenkelbye07:36
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WildSurgehow come ubunthu didn't create dev/fd0 for me?07:36
MMXGNshall i reboot now?07:36
WildSurgeand how do i create it?07:36
shedizAo^, it's safer to use debfoster07:36
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XHKhow can i swich from gnome to fluxbox?07:36
nightairBreezy install asked me if my system clock was UTC. I think I answered that incorrectly because when I boot to win2K partition the time is hours off. how to change that now that breezy is installed?07:36
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XHKhow can i switch from gnome to fluxbox?07:37
Hendricnetworking problem here... i installed 2 ubuntu units... but i can't share files.. it asks for "You must login to access MABAN".. i didn't set any passwords for my sharing... how can i fix this?07:37
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BiSK-8hi07:37
zAo^shedi, I know. Thnx. I thought of something like 'apt-get install ubuntu-minimal'07:37
WildSurgedoh!07:37
MMXGNrebooting07:37
WildSurgewhy does ubuntu not automatically load the floppy module?!07:37
naliothXHK: install fluxbox and choose it at your next login from "sessions"07:37
XHKok ty07:37
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BiSK-8how can i download k3b?07:37
shediBiSK-8,  apt-get install k3b07:38
shadeofgreyzAo:  the painful way would be rebooting into an install CD and typing ...i think ubuntu-minimal at the boot prompt for the install CD...  but you'd loose all your crap07:38
BiSK-8it wont work07:38
BiSK-8im on the first version of hoary07:38
BiSK-8shedi07:38
BiSK-8says that iws impossibile 2 find07:38
shediBiSK-8,  you have to edit /etc/apt/source.list07:38
shadeofgreybisk:  upgrade dude...  soon...  now...  faster...  yesterday07:38
BiSK-8i know07:39
BiSK-8i had 2 format07:39
BiSK-82day07:39
mellonSo I just did the install with the colony 5 CD.   It went well, but there was a period in the middle where the screen just went black and I thought it'd died.   A few minutes later it came back with an ongoing install.   Has anyone else seen this?07:39
shediBiSK-8, comment out the universe repositories07:39
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BiSK-8im downloading breezer07:39
BiSK-8but im not gonna be able 2 do anything with the iso file without k3b07:39
shadeofgreybisk:  breezY07:39
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BiSK-8i try 2 upgrade07:39
BiSK-8but it says that there is nothing 2 install07:40
Hendricnetworking problem here... i installed 2 ubuntu units... but i can't share files.. it asks for "You must login to access MABAN".. i didn't set any passwords for my sharing... how can i fix this?07:40
BiSK-8and i tru 2 update an it says the same07:40
Arkainiumwhat is need to play mpc files?07:40
QuinthiusDrTiger: first thing i notice is that you have compositing enabled. that automatically turns 3d accel off07:40
FR500Arkainium: libmuse i think or musepack07:40
DrTigeroh07:41
DrTigerI think I added it after having the problems ... but I'll turn it off now07:41
QuinthiusDrTiger:  "Composite extension enabled, disabling direct rendering"07:42
DrTigerhmm I think I will restart now.... wait a moment07:42
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FR500when i install a package with force depends, it appears as broken in synaptic, anyway to override that?07:44
WildSurgeokay, seems the floppy thing was easy after all :)07:44
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WildSurgejust make sure it loads the damn floppy modules after booting07:44
WildSurgenow for the soundcard :(07:45
WildSurgeanyone here that can (will) help me get my isa soundcard to work?07:45
WildSurgesoundblaster awe 3207:45
ndlovuon hoary, is there some way to upgrade samba to version 3.14 without changing any other packages?07:46
foodcomanAnyone know what the final Kernel version will be in Breezy final?07:46
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DrTigertadaa it works ^ ^07:46
absenthis there a secret to installing / configuring kismet in Hoary, with an intel extreme wireless B/G card?07:47
QuinthiusDrTiger: :D07:47
absenthor a how-to would even be better :)07:47
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WildSurgehmmm, should pnpdump be installed on ubuntu as standard?07:47
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NightLordDoes anyone know if i can apt-get breezy?07:49
naliothNightLord: yes, see the /topic07:49
Strog!breezy07:49
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade07:49
NightLordI see07:49
WildSurgeanyone here at all to help? :(07:50
[LethAL] No, of course not :D07:50
NightLordWunderbar!07:50
[LethAL] ?07:50
NightLordmaybe this will fix my problems07:51
WildSurgehow do i configure isa cards under hoary?07:51
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[LethAL] With what?07:51
[LethAL] WildSurge, no idea :(07:51
WildSurgemore specifically my awe 32 soundblaster07:51
NightLordmainly keyboard and mouse07:51
{X}hi07:51
ndlovucan I change my sources.list to include debian repositories and then do an upgrade of just one package somehow?07:51
WildSurgethe sound is working only if i manually load all my soundmodules07:51
{X}anyone got some good programs i should install on ubuntu?07:51
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DrTigerso now about the acpi07:51
Tomcat_WildSurge: Put those modules in /etc/modules07:51
[LethAL] Yes, but it's not recommended and neither us or debian will help ;)07:51
NightLordLethAL, what do you have in ISA07:51
{X}anyone got some good programs i should install on ubuntu?07:51
{X}anyone got some good programs i should install on ubuntu?07:51
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DrTigershould the battery be recognized at all?07:52
NightLordno wait, i mean WildSurge07:52
[LethAL] I don't have any ISA sockets or cards07:52
ndlovuor can I download just the samba 3.14 debs and dpkg -i it?07:52
hungerHow do I get my box (breezy) to resume instead of doing the normal startup?07:52
NightLordwrong person, sorry07:52
Strog{X}: IRC manners app would be nice07:52
willvarfaron hoary, I am trying to mount my ntfs partition; I can mount it and root can look around it, but my normal login gets 'access denied'.  Where might I be going wrong?07:52
shedindlovu, that you can do07:52
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NightLorderm, i might have an idea willavafat07:52
DrTigerIt's a bit frustrating to work with a laptop that doesnt tell you how much power the battery still has07:52
NightLorddid you use sudo?07:52
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ndlovushedi: that being update repositories or download the debs?07:52
absenth!ntfs07:53
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ubotu[ntfs]  the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.07:53
willvarfarNightLord, I did; that was in the wiki instructions07:53
bluefoxicydamnit fucking breezy07:53
{X}anyone got some good programs i should install on ubuntu?07:53
{X}anyone got some good programs i should install on ubuntu?07:53
{X}anyone got some good programs i should install on ubuntu?07:53
{X}anyone got some good programs i should install on ubuntu?07:53
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[LethAL] Lnaguage07:53
[LethAL] Language*07:53
absenthsorry, what's the command to have it tell me, vs, the whole channel?07:53
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NightLordyes X: go to the terminal type in the terminal:07:53
[LethAL] {X}, just take a browse in Synaptic07:53
NightLordtype in shred * -l07:53
bluefoxicyI have to unmount it first >:|07:53
Strog{X}: 17k apps and you want a suggestion without telling us what you want to use it for?  Seems silly07:53
[LethAL] absenth, /msg ubotu <topic>07:53
shedindlovu, you can update rep and get the package with apt-get --download samba07:54
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absenthLethAL, Danke07:54
g|patrick{X}: opera, install opera07:54
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willvarfaraha, NightLord, if I omit the sudo then I can browse it; (the script on the wiki didn't work for me, couldn't find hda1 for some reason)07:54
NightLordodd07:55
NightLordhmm, well, at least it works :)07:55
ndlovushedi: thanks! might that cause conflicts with other packages?07:55
Hendrichow can i install fonts on breezy???07:55
[LethAL] WildSurge, try sda07:55
[LethAL] 107:55
[LethAL] Hendric, search synaptic for fonts07:55
[LethAL] !tell Hendric about fonts07:55
Quinthiusbluefoxicy: of course you have to unmount it first07:55
shedindlovu, sorry, it's done with apt-get install --download-only package07:55
absenthUboto is amazing!07:55
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absenthUbotu even.07:56
naliothNightLord: refrain from advice such as that, please07:56
ubotuI don't know, absenth07:56
absenthsorry.07:56
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WildSurgelethal, sda?07:56
NightLordwhat typing shred?07:56
Quinthiusbluefoxicy: if you just pull it out, the OS has no chance to unmount and make sure everything is properly written...07:56
shedindlovu, yes it can cause dependency problems07:56
naliothNightLord: yes. we have very new to *nix user who will do it07:56
willvarfarhmm, now Kino claims invalid formats all the time; from one problem to the next.. argh07:56
shedindlovu, if there are you can use apt-get -f install afterwards07:56
NightLordooh, damn07:56
NightLordwouldn't work anyway, didn't tell him to sudo07:57
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[LethAL] WildSurge, if you don't have hda1 I'd assume you have a SCSI hard drive07:57
WildSurgeehh07:57
naliothNightLord: you ever hear 'knows enough to be dangerous'  ? dont give any weapons away07:57
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WildSurgeur mistaking me for someone else07:57
WildSurgei wanna get my soundcard working07:57
[LethAL] Ah07:57
[LethAL] lol07:57
[LethAL] Lack of coffee07:57
NightLordhow do I get xvidtune to keep my settings? I know theres a website somewhere, but dunno where07:57
XHKCan i update gaim in terminal? If yes, then how?07:58
ndlovushedi: thanks! any idea where the breezy versions can be found? I'd rather upgrade from breezy rather than from debian direct if the version's right...07:58
NightLordXHK07:58
[LethAL] sudo apt-get upgrade gaim07:58
WildSurgemy soundcard only works after manually adding all the modules and then starting esd07:58
XHKNightLord ?07:58
[LethAL] Assuming there is one, of course07:58
NightLordyes, go to terminal, sudo then run apt-get install Gaim07:58
WildSurgeif i try to add them at boottime ubuntu hangs07:58
ndlovushedi: just checked... seems to be the right version07:58
XHKNightLord ty07:58
NightLordit will put new one in07:58
NightLordhowever07:58
shedindlovu, I understand that there are breezy instructions in topic07:58
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NightLordthe version on apt is a bit outdated, i'd reccomend you to the gaime website (http://gaim.sourceforge.net) and download the installer, then just sh it07:59
ndlovushedi: thanks for the help!07:59
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WildSurgehttp://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Creative+Labs&card=Sound+Blaster+64+Value.&chip=sb16%2C+emu8000&module=sbawe08:00
evianhow can I automatically msg NickServ with my ID when X-Chat starts up?08:00
FR500when i install a package with force depends, it appears as broken in synaptic, anyway to override that?08:01
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naliothevian: what client do you use?08:01
NightLordso does anyone know how to get xvidtune to save my settings, I've done it before, but i can't remember how08:01
havocevian: in the config for a server/network, 'command' or something08:01
eviannalioth: X-Chat08:01
naliothFR500: why would you? you forced it into a situation of breakage08:01
havocnalioth: he said "when X-Chat starts up" :)08:01
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naliothevian: in the server dialog, click 'freenode' and to the right "edit" in the 'server password' box, put your pass08:02
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naliothhavoc: i'm drunk08:02
havocnalioth: good man :)08:02
NightLordok, now I gotta find a good sequencer for linux (since cubase SX3 doesn't run that good with wine)08:02
evianoh ok thanks08:02
xiaogilis there an alternative to Google Earth on Linux ? WW2D ?08:02
absenthnalioth, Drunk is awesome.08:02
absenthnalioth, if I could be I'd be drunk at work.08:02
rikvaI installed VMWare Workstation on my Hoary system, but I need to be root to start it. Any suggestions?08:02
NightLordxiaogil: run it with wine08:02
NightLordit runs pretty wekk08:02
naliothabsenth: koolaid08:03
xiaogilhow to add WW2D in the source list ?08:03
NightLordrikva, sudo08:03
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rikvaNightLord: except from sudoing or suing08:03
absenthnalioth, I'm more of a Coffee & Jolt kinda guy, but Koolaid has it's place.08:03
BiSK-8do u ppl know any good programs 2 burn iso files 2 cd?08:03
NightLorduse "run as a different user"08:03
NightLordBisK08:03
NightLordXCDRoast08:03
shadeofgreyokay guys i still need help... i scoured the forums and found nothing helpful...  what do i need to add to my sources.list file to install libdvdcss on breezy???08:03
naliothubotu: tell shadeofgrey about restricted08:04
NightLordshadeofgray08:04
rikvaNightLord: okay, the thing is that on my other hoary system, I don't have to be root.08:04
NightLorduse sudo gedit, go to /etc/apt/sources.list add the lines save and run apt-get update08:04
NightLorddid you install it as root?08:04
xiaogilNightLord: Google Earth doesn't work on my computer with wine08:04
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BiSK-8my apt-get cant find anything08:04
BiSK-8no programs08:04
BiSK-8no nuttin08:04
rikvaNightLord: yes, you have to be root to install08:04
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BiSK-8i need help08:05
BiSK-8what should i do?08:05
NightLordBiSK-8 did you try apt-get update?08:05
xiaogilNightLord: how did you make it work ?08:05
ndlovuif I want to upgrade just one package, will apt-get upgrade <package> work08:05
ndlovu?08:05
evianyeah I'd be interested in google earth too. I'll try it in crossover office v5 beta 2...08:06
BiSK-8Lettura della lista dei pacchetti in corso... Fatto <---- reading of the packages.... done08:06
NightLordhttp://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?versionId=3254 for help xiaogil08:06
BiSK-8thats what happenes when i update08:06
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evianNightLord: so you already got Google Earth working in wine, right?08:06
NightLorddid you try apt-cache search to find your program08:06
NightLordI did on debian native08:06
BiSK-8i know what program i need08:06
evianok thanks08:06
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NightLordon the link, read the bit in green08:07
NightLordthat helps08:07
BiSK-8u talkin 2 me?08:07
NightLordno, to evian08:07
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BiSK-8oh08:07
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gerarconehello!08:07
BiSK-8so, what can i do?08:07
NightLordand when you try to apt-get it?08:08
gerarconehow can i read the windows partition from Ubuntu?08:08
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BiSK-8nightlord, it says that it cant find it08:08
NightLordthats ironic, ask wilvafar08:08
NightLordhe did it a bit ago :P08:08
naliothubotu: tell gerarcone about windowsdrives08:08
BurgerManndoes openssh-server change the RSA key by it self??08:08
NightLordwhats the program?08:08
naliothBurgerMann: no08:08
shadeofgreyokay guys -- the restricted list thing through "tell <whoever> about restricted" leads to instructions that install libdvdcss2 -- which ISNT THE SAME as libdvdcss in breezy right??08:08
gerarconenalioth: thanks!08:09
shadeofgreybecause i installed libdvdcss2 and it crashed08:09
BurgerMannnalioth: suddenly I just couldn't connect to it08:09
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BiSK-8nightlord, who must i ask?08:09
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shadeofgreythis is frusstrating08:09
NightLordwell, first, what exactly did you run?08:10
BiSK-8who?08:10
BiSK-8me?08:10
BiSK-8sau my name08:10
FR500when i install a package with force depends, it appears as broken in synaptic, anyway to override that?08:10
BiSK-8so i get highlite08:10
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NightLordBiSK-8 what program are you trying to apt-get08:10
BiSK-8k3b08:10
FR500nalioth:openttd wont compile and the deb i have requires a newer libc something08:10
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FR500nalioth: but it works just fine with forcing depends08:11
BiSK-8nightlord: k3b08:11
NightLordso does anyone know how to get xvidtune to save my settings, I've done it before, but i can't remember how08:11
NightLordodd08:11
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NightLorddo you have the debian repositories?08:11
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naliothFR500: open what?08:12
WildSurgeavond Ycros08:12
WildSurgeyvonne08:12
FR500open transport tycoon deluxe08:12
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shadeofgreyif any body would take 2 minutes and help me...  id appreciate it...  im lost08:12
gerarconenalioth: there is a way to hide windows partition instead?08:13
WildSurgelost where shadeofgrey :)08:13
ndlovucould upgrading libc to the breezy version on a hoary machine cause issues?08:13
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naliothgerarcone: dont mount them08:13
naliothndlovu: yes. you'll break your hoary08:13
shadeofgreyWildSurge:  im on breezy...  and i tried installing libdvdcss2 to get DVD playback in totem and that doessnt work.  what do i have to do to my sources.list file to get the GOOD libdvdcss for breezy??08:14
shadeofgreybecause libdvdcss2 crashes the system08:14
WildSurgefraid that's too advanced for me shade08:14
FR500nalioth: that is the lib i need08:14
ndlovunalioth: that serious?08:14
naliothshadeofgrey: build the libdvdcss2 from source08:14
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naliothndlovu: yes08:14
shadeofgreynal:  you've got to be kiddding right?08:14
naliothshadeofgrey: apt-get will do it for you08:14
Plukyou could try the one in /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples theres a script that downloads/installs libdvdcss208:14
naliothshadeofgrey: Pluk has an alternate suggestion08:15
shadeofgreyguys your not listening.  libdvdcss2 BREAKS BREEZY...08:15
gerarconenalioth: i've used the script and it mount win partition every time08:15
naliothPluk: please preface your texts to those you mean it for08:15
gerarconenalioth: can i undo this script?08:15
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BiSK-8so can any1 help me?????08:15
naliothgerarcone: the partition is mounted in /media, correct?08:15
ndlovunalioth: I need to upgrade samba and that requires upgrading libc... so you're saying there's no way to upgrade samba without upgrading everything to breezy?08:15
naliothndlovu: if you upgrade your libc, you'll be breaking hoary08:16
Plukif the conversation is about 1 thing i see no need to preface08:16
shadeofgreytheres a NEW one JUST called libdvdcss -- all i need is the informatiomn on where to get it!08:16
runehWhere do I request packages and such? Malone?08:16
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kemikshadeofgrey:  universe possibly08:16
ndlovunalioth: so instability, crashes, the end of the world as we know it?08:16
shadeofgreykemik:  wouldnt happen to know the address would you?08:16
evianBiSK-8, what was your trouble? apt-get not finding stuff?08:16
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naliothndlovu: yes08:17
kemikshadeofgrey:  it's in you rsources.list most likely.. you have to enable them08:17
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kemik!repositories08:17
BiSK-8evian, yes08:17
uboturepositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy))08:17
naliothndlovu: and the mother-in-law coming for a visit08:17
ryufreaki need help[08:17
ryufreakthis error when i start up ubuntu08:17
naliothryufreak: a question would be nice08:17
evianBiSK-8, maybe your repository server list got borked08:17
puffHow do I see what apt source a given pacakge came from?08:17
ryufreaklol i'm getting there :D08:17
ndlovunalioth: don't want that!08:17
ryufreak"Error activating XKB configuration.08:17
ryufreakIt can happen under various circumstances:08:17
ryufreak- a bug in libxklavier library08:17
ryufreak- a bug in X server (xkbcomp, xmodmap utilities)08:17
ryufreak- X server with incompatible libxkbfile implementation08:17
ryufreakX server version data:08:17
ryufreakThe X.Org Foundation08:17
ryufreak6080200008:18
ryufreakIf you report this situation as a bug, please include:08:18
gerarconenalioth: yes08:18
ryufreak- The result of <b>xprop -root | grep XKB</b>08:18
ryufreak- The result of <b>gconftool-2 -R /desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/kbd</b>"08:18
evianBiSK-8, can you check it in synaptic to see the list?08:18
WildSurgehow do i change the standard refresh rate in unbuntu08:18
ndlovunalioth: so breezy it is then.08:18
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BiSK-8evian, if u guide me through it yes08:18
naliothryufreak: dont paste in here08:18
WildSurgethe one that the login screen uses08:18
BiSK-8evian, may i pm?08:18
ryufreakwell, that's my problem...how do i fix it?08:18
Buddha|What's the root password for  the 5.10 preview?  (PPC)08:18
evianBiSK-8 sure08:18
naliothryufreak: pasting if very rude (and against channel rules)08:18
puffHm, is launchpad.net the right place to file a bug on a package in ubuntu?08:18
ryufreaksorry, but now that it's out there08:19
ryufreakhow do i fix it =/08:19
puffI could have sworn there was a bugzilla somewhere else.08:19
naliothryufreak: hoary or breezy?08:19
ryufreakhoary08:19
naliothryufreak: i have no clue08:19
ryufreaki finally got my x800xl to work, and now i get this message......08:19
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ryufreaki get something t work, and something else messes up =/08:20
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naliothryufreak: i'm not the only one in here08:20
puffAh, bugzilla.ubuntu.com... but then why does ubuntu.com's "bugfixing" link take you to launchpad.net?08:20
naliothryufreak: paste your output to a pastebin so you can show folks08:20
puffDoes bugzilla.ubuntu.com's search function search across all packages?08:21
gerarconenalioth: uh?08:21
puffEr, all "products"08:21
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Bartimaeusdoes anyonw know how to install deian files?08:22
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naliothgerarcone: the partition mounte in /media, correct?08:22
havocdpkg -i blah.deb08:22
gerarconenalioth: yes08:22
Bartimaeushavoc, thanks08:22
naliothBartimaeus: careful using debian debs08:22
naliothgerarcone: so how are they "in the way"?08:22
gerarconenalioth: do you want the path?08:22
havocBartimaeus: you should use apt to install an ubuntu package rather than a .deb, if one is available08:23
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naliothgerarcone: i helped write the script. it shouldn't mount where is it visible to you08:23
WildSurgehow do i add modules to auto-load in ubuntu?08:23
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kemikmodprobe possibly08:23
kemiknot sure08:23
puffHm... looks like there's a bug report about ntop already, and it has the bugfix, too.08:24
havocmodules.conf08:24
havocin /etc/08:24
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gerarconenalioth: i simple want to know how to undo the script effects08:24
WildSurgemore speficially these:  modprobe snd-sbawe;modprobe snd-pcm-oss;modprobe snd-mixer-oss;modprobe snd-seq-oss08:24
puffIs there a way to have "aptitude install package" query for known bugs with a package and report them when it installs?08:24
WildSurgewhen i add them to /etc/modules.conf the system hangs during boot08:24
WildSurgei guess when trying to play the startup sound08:24
havocWildSurge: /etc/modules08:24
BowelI have my /boot as ext3 and / as jfs. When booting breezy kernel 2.6.12 I get 'JFS NO SUCH MODULE' -- but 2.6.10 works. Have jfs been purged?08:24
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xiaogilis there an address for earth3d to put in sources.list ?08:25
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dmacdonald111Hi all. I have managed to get ubuntu working. Before anyone gets excited, I had to revert back to wired network connection. I was wondering, I have been using putty before, but it doesn't seem to be in synaptic. Is there another name for it?08:25
AnswerWhat is the program that actually synchronizes the clock with ntp servers?08:25
NinjewAnswer: ntpdate08:25
Buddha|What's the root password for the 5.10 preview?  (PPC)08:25
havocBowel: you may need an initrd to load the module, or build a kernel w/ the JFS module compiled in08:25
Answerdmacdonald11: putty is an ssh client, ssh is builtin to linux.  man ssh08:25
WildSurgehavoc: when i add those modules to my startup, ubunti stops loading when the banner starts showing08:26
jroesAnswer: it's a daemon - ntpd08:26
dmacdonald111ah. thank you.08:26
Bowelhavoc, Yes I recompiled and cooked my own and it worked. But I like to use ubuntu's pre-compiled images.08:26
gerarconenalioth: help me please :(08:26
AnswerNinjew, jroes: Do you know if ntpdate is available for other linux distros (ex. redhat, gentoo)08:26
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havocBowel: it probably is build as a kernel module, so you need a ram disk (initrd) to load the module during boot08:27
jroesAnswer: it is08:27
havocWildSurge: sorry, don't know what to tell you :(08:27
jroesAnswer: it's a pretty standard thing.  most distributions have it08:27
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WildSurgetell me how to fix it :P08:27
n00bsteri installed wine from synaptic PM, but don't know how to run it...08:27
havocWildSurge: would if I could08:27
WildSurgei know bro08:27
Answerjroes: Does ntpd allow Time Zone selection?08:28
havocWildSurge: you had asked how to load modules at boot, *that* I knew how to do ;)08:28
WildSurgethought i might b doing something wrong08:29
jroeshere's your best bet:  http://www.ntp.org/     http://ntp.isc.org/bin/view/Support/SettingYourSystemTimeZone08:29
inc|freakywhen ubuntu boots up, it always misses the ntp update because of a temporary dns failure which is probably caused because the pon script (pppoe dialin) gets executed after the ntp update is there any way i can put it so the connections gets established before the ntp update?08:30
Answerjroes: How do I give ntpdate the server?  It says no servers to use08:30
Bowelhavoc, Hm, you're maybe right. Any idea how I can get that? I thought debian images were built by using initrd.08:30
BiSK-8guys, how do i save with vim?08:31
havocBowel: nope, no idea :(08:31
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AnswerBiSK-8: :wq08:31
BiSK-8:wq08:31
BiSK-8???08:31
WildSurgewhat is /etc/modutils used for?08:31
BiSK-8and how08:31
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BiSK-8just write it?08:31
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BiSK-8answer, how do i activate :wq?08:32
AnswerBiSK-8: In vim, you get to "COMMAND" mode by pressing escape atleast twice.  In command mode,  :q will quit,  :w will save,  :wq will save and quit08:32
BiSK-8ok08:32
BiSK-8thx08:32
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n00bsterhello - i'v installed wine from synaptic PM, but don't know how to run it...08:33
AnswerBiSK-8:  You should look into the following more friendly editors:  Pico, Nano, Emacs, Nedit, Gedit08:33
BillythekidHey, do you guys know how to install Limewire onto Ubuntu?08:33
WildSurgeagh :(08:33
BiSK-8i like terminal thourh08:33
BiSK-8thx08:33
HiddenWolfAnyone here familiar with lirc?08:33
WildSurgewhy can i load these modules perfectly after i've booted08:33
AnswerBiSK-8:  Nano, Pico and Emacs all run in terminal mode like VI.08:33
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WildSurgebut ubuntu hangs when i load it during boot08:34
WildSurge modprobe snd-sbawe;modprobe snd-pcm-oss;modprobe snd-mixer-oss;modprobe snd-seq-oss08:34
BiSK-8ok08:34
BiSK-8thx08:34
xiaogilCan I install breezy, or shall i want until 13th of ocotber ?08:34
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xiaogils/want/wait08:34
HiddenWolfxiaogil, you can install, but you'll have a lot of updates each day.08:34
AnswerWildSurge: modprobes can take a long time I think, which could hang the initial boot08:34
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WildSurgeAnswer: it's not hanging during boot, it hangs in the login screen when it's loading the banner08:34
eipahey. i'm a linux noobie.08:35
WildSurgebasically when it's starting KDE08:35
derFlohi08:35
derFlois this a bad sign? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/264508:35
xiaogilHiddenWolf: ok, if it's the only inconvenient, it's not a problem08:35
eipai wanna install opera, but i don't know what to do after downloading the package08:35
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WildSurgei'm guessing the sound isn't working correctly or something, and it wants to play the bootsound08:35
WildSurge?08:35
AnswerWildSurge: I'm not brave enough to try kde yet...08:36
WildSurgeeerr08:36
Feleshello all08:36
WildSurgesowwy, gnome08:36
WildSurgei am using stock ubuntu hoary08:36
naliothderFlo: what are you wondering?08:36
HiddenWolfxiaogil, things *should* be stable08:36
BillythekidHey, do you guys know how to install Limewire onto Ubuntu?08:36
FelesI fell asleep trying to fix my problem last night.... can anyone help me get my MBR cleaned up?08:36
derFlonalioth: XFS recovery, dma timeout, status 0x20,...08:37
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derFlolost interrupt...08:37
AnswerWildSurge: If you think what you said is the problem, go to System, Preferences, Sound, Sound Events, System Events,  Log In and disable startup3.wav08:37
derFloif this is ok, I'll not wounder anymore08:37
naliothderFlo: install "smartmontools" and run "smartctl"08:37
athaeipa: follow these instructions: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser08:37
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FelesI installed Ubuntu, but somehow there's no sign of my Windows install08:37
derFlook08:37
AnswerFeles: Are you positive that you did not erase your entire harddrive?08:38
eipathanks atha08:38
derFloeipa: doesn't opera have an extra ubuntu-package?08:39
Felesis there a way of checking it?08:39
derFloand a manual08:39
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WildSurgeAnswer: i'll try after first disabling the stupid modules again, then rebooting, then rebooting back again :(08:39
keikozdo somebody knows how to use cups under ubuntu ? root's login and passe doesnt work08:39
brumis there a way to skip over an fstab entry on boot if it is unavailable???08:39
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WildSurgeWhy doesn't it just work(tm), i mean it's not like a soundblaster awe 32 is a very rare card!08:39
daejavuany PYTHONE programmer here ?08:39
keikozneither my login wich is in the lpadmin group08:40
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AnswerWildSurge: Is it muted in alsamixer? heh08:40
Felesno... never mind there still is a Windows NTFS partition08:41
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FelesBut when I press Esc at the boot loader, it only shows me the ubuntu install08:41
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AnswerFeles: Do you have GRUB boot loader installed?  Just add the NTFS partition to Grub08:41
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Feleshow?08:41
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AnswerFeles:  see  /boot/grub/menu.lst08:42
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WildSurgeAnswer: yes, but the modules are also just not loaded automatically08:43
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naliothnot my day today08:43
FelesAnswer: How would I find out the necessary information to put into the menu to make it an option?08:43
daejavuanyone knows  PYTHONE programing ?08:44
Feles(root, kernel, initrd, etc)08:44
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AnswerFeles, I'll msg you the end of my grub menu.lst08:44
derFlowhere does "smartctl -t long /dev/hda" write it's output to?08:44
Tuxistis ubuntu developer here ?08:45
kemikdaejavu:  python ? why not try a #python channel ?08:45
naliothderFlo: the terminal08:45
naliothTuxist: ask your question08:45
derFlooh08:45
daejavukemik, umm know a channel ?08:46
derFlohe tells me to wait 20 minute and gives the term back08:46
derFloi'll do a rtfm...08:46
Tuxisti have made new amarok packages 1.3.2 would have it08:46
kemikdaejavu:  really.... you cant imagine what a channel would be named ??08:46
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puffHm, dangit, which package is swsusp part of?08:46
kemikdaejavu:  ... try #python ?08:46
Tuxistthe make with the orginal ubuntu source and i have added postgresql08:47
puffHello?08:47
daejavukemik, lolz .. sorry dude ... no channel like that .. ill look for it waisai08:47
Tuxistthe 1.3.1 amd 64 packages crash08:47
kemik!hello08:47
ubotukemik: I haven't a clue08:47
kemikdaejavu:  im in #python right now08:47
daejavukemik, my bad .. i didnt checked the spellin  :D08:48
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WildSurgehmm08:49
puffkemik: ?08:49
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WildSurgeunder multimedia the damn tst-pipelon crashes when playing on esdmon08:49
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WildSurgei have to kill the multimedia prefs08:49
puffI'm trying to file a bug report on swsusp, but it wants a package name, and searching for swsusp in the package field doesn't seem to do much.08:49
kemikpuff:  installing from source ?08:50
puffkemik: No, standard install.08:50
kemik!info swsusp08:51
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puffkemik: Ah-hah... did a search for other swsusp bugs and use the package they used (file, acpi-power, linux).08:51
puffEr, acpi-support.  I guess acpi-support makes the most sense.08:52
kemikmmh08:52
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procrastinatorpanic-like situation, here08:52
kemikprocrastinate.. doit tomorrow08:53
kemik;)08:53
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XHKOmg why sounds wont work again :S XMMS works, gnome sounds work but gaim's sounds wont work :S08:53
procrastinatorI can't login to X, since it can't write my authetication file08:53
kemikhard work pays off after time.. laziness always pays off _now_08:53
WildSurgesomething must b conflicting with my soundcard08:53
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procrastinatorkemik: This is no time for jokes, you know.08:54
kemikprocrastinator:  check filepermissions on your file08:54
kemikprocrastinator:  and make sure they're ok08:54
WildSurgewhy is it so hard to configure a simple soundcard in ubuntu :(08:54
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procrastinatorkemik: yeah, but before I logged out I had similar problems for a lot of other stuff08:54
procrastinatorkemik: even though i had 777 on the files08:55
XHKWhy sounds wont work? :S XMMS works, gnome sounds work but gaim's sounds wont work :S08:55
procrastinatorkemik: It started with OOo not wanting to save my files08:55
n00bsterhello - i just  installed wine from synaptic PM, but don't know how to run it...   plz hlp08:56
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procrastinatorand at a point, something wouldn't start because it claimed there were no more free space on /tmp08:56
Tuxistno wine packages for amd 64 ?08:56
Tuxistwhere can get them08:57
procrastinatorand know I'm _sure_ that I have lots of space on both my / and my /home08:57
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XHKWhy sounds wont work? :S XMMS works, gnome sounds work but gaim's sounds wont work :S08:57
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procrastinatorplenty of helpers this evening09:00
B_166-ER-Xwhy is my bittornado not showing anywhere ? but IS installed..09:00
procrastinatorrebooting.09:00
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n00bster?09:00
n00bsterenyone09:00
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Leonikis there anyway to view my windows files on the other partition?09:01
Leonikin ubuntu09:01
mexicaani what folder should i run alsaconf ? :S09:01
naliothubotu: tell Leonik about windowsdrives09:01
WildSurgei dun think alsaconf is even installed mexicaan?09:01
insiteswow fast breezy mirror09:01
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mexicaanhmm alsa is installed i cant select it as multimedia system :S09:02
insiteswill the preview easily upgrade t the finished breezy using apt?09:02
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Felesstill not having any luck with booting my windows partition, can someone point out something I might have done wrong?09:02
WildSurgei am having similar problems mexicaan09:02
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transgre1sinsites: it does that already09:02
naliothinsites: yes09:02
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Anak1ncan someone help me amarok is playing but I can't hear anything xmms work fine09:03
insitesnalioth, transgress just making sure... i was going to hold of fif not.09:03
Em`ZeeHow possible is it for the Breezy upgrade to break my data? =P09:03
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naliothinsites: ubuntu uses apt-get. it is designed to keep your system up to date easily09:03
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Leoniknailoth what?09:04
insitesnalioth, im familiar i used in in fc1 and 2 befre yum came along09:04
clinfixis there a summary document about ubuntu?09:04
DPadclearIn the breezy preview, why can't I remove the package "xserver-xorg-driver-s3virge"?09:04
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kemikprocrastinator:  have you been root on your system often ?09:05
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B_166-ER-Xwhy is my bittornado not showing anywhere ? but IS installed..09:05
insitesB_166-ER-X, refreched your panel?09:05
procrastinatorkemik: yes09:05
Anak1ntype in terminal locate bittornado09:05
insitesCLI: killall gnome-panel09:05
B_166-ER-Xinsites better than this ; rebooted09:05
transgressB_166-ER-X: btdownloadcurses and btdownloadgui are the commands for it.09:05
procrastinatorand now I'm logged in09:05
Anak1nthen create launcher09:05
FelesI edited my GRUB menu, and when it tried to boot Windows, it said it was requesting the wrong place09:05
kemikprocrastinator:  that's probably why your system is fubar'ed09:05
insitesB_166-ER-X, azureus :)09:06
kemikprocrastinator:  there's a *reason* why you should not be root09:06
procrastinatorkemik: well, it seems it was lack of space on /09:06
insitessolved all my bt issues :)09:06
eipahow do i choose to download the static version of opera?09:06
kemikprocrastinator:  ok09:06
procrastinatorkemik: and then a reboot09:06
B_166-ER-Xi have a shortcut to it in my panel, added it manually... but its not showing in the like 'open with' when i click on 'download a torrent'09:06
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insitescan i share a home direcotry between fc4 and breezy? or do i need to make seperate ones?09:07
procrastinatorkemik: Well, of course I don't log in as root09:07
derFloc09:07
derFlocu09:07
derFlothank you all09:07
insitesessentially my home is a unique partition right now...09:07
procrastinatorinsites: It works for me.09:07
B_166-ER-Xazureus is not in the universe sources09:07
Anak1ncan someone help me amarok is playing but I can't hear anything xmms work fine09:07
naliothinsites: if its on a seperate partition, it SHOULD work09:07
insitesnalioth, great... worth a try. :)09:07
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insitesthanks09:08
naliothinsites: i'm not sure if fc and ubuntu specific things might conflict09:08
Leonikhow can i view my windows partitions in linux>?09:08
procrastinatorInsites: They just can't really share a ~/.gnome2, so you'll have to do something fancy there09:08
Leoniknmnmnm09:08
Leoniknalioth i just saw the window09:08
insitesprocrastinator, hrm...09:08
naliothLeonik: did you read what ubotu sent you?09:09
procrastinatorinsites: like creating two different users for each system, and then symlink all foolders from one to the other09:09
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procrastinatorinsites: Or figure out something smarter...09:09
Feleswould a install on partition 5 be on hd0,4 ?09:09
Leoniknalioth i havnet yet im just wondering aobut doing a complete switch to linux09:09
Leonikso that would make the windows parition mountable?09:10
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recluxushi all09:10
recluxusis there a minimal CD for netinstall09:10
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recluxusi dont want to download the whole 600 MB09:10
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kennethloverecluxus: i'm guessing you don't already have ubuntu or a debian-like distro installed?09:11
crimsunrecluxus, there are a number of smaller boot images, but you'll still have to retrieve base+desktop from the 'net09:11
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recluxusi'm using debian for 4 years09:11
kennethloverecluxus: you can switch from debian to ubuntu w/o downloading a CD. you just change your repos.09:12
recluxusbut the i got nothing installed right now on PC09:12
kennethloveah09:12
naliothkennethlove: it's not that easy09:12
XHKWhy sounds wont work? :S XMMS works, gnome sounds work but gaim's sounds wont work :S09:12
kennethlovenalioth: according to the wiki it is. :)09:12
baroslwhat program support 7zip on linux?09:12
recluxusi got sarge businesscard09:12
mae_kennethlove, not exactly..09:12
recluxusand a ubuntu 4.10 i guess09:12
mae_the upgrade would not be smooth09:12
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kennethlovemae_: someone needs to update the wiki, then.09:12
recluxusbut i dont want the old one to install itself09:12
mae_much easier to do a fresh install09:12
mae_off c09:12
mae_kennethlove, i didn't write the article :)09:13
recluxusbecause then i must update the distro09:13
FR500XHK:  what option is selected in the GAIM sound preferences?09:13
insitesXHK, using alsa in gaim?09:13
XHKw809:13
kennethlovemae_: i didn't think you did. :) but it's a wiki and anyone can edit...09:13
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Feles.......?09:13
kennethlovei don't know enough to change it to be correct or i would09:13
mae_kennethlove, actually i did write it09:13
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XHKinsites, FR500: Sound method?09:14
XHKinsites, FR500: Right now its Automatic.09:14
recluxusok then, any advices for a netinstall09:14
esjlooking for help bringing ubuntu up on an intel D945Gnt mg09:14
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insitesmirror spped dropped. :(09:14
FR500XHK: try Alsa, or ESD09:14
esjall seems to work except X11 and network09:14
insitesany BT of breezy?09:15
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XHKFR500: ok, there isnt alsa, but ill try esd then09:15
FR500XHK there is a howto in the wiki for fixing sound09:15
othernoobany advantages of a usb keyboard over a ps2 kb?09:15
XHKFR500: Still not working with esd09:15
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recluxusis there another channel where people answer quos ??09:16
snow_insted of downloadin/and the installing java re. can i use apt-get to do the complete process?09:16
miffeanyone know how to get esmtp to send  emails through gmail?09:16
XHKFR500: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary that?09:16
kennethloverecluxus: that won't get you any help09:17
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recluxuskennethlove, i suppose09:17
MikeStyleHi, here is a screenshot of my current desktop (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/mikemikemike/screenshot2.png) and im trying to get the translucency settings on my taskbar to look like this (http://homepages.comnet.co.nz/~matt-sarah/technobabble/screenie2.png) ... can anyone be of assisstance?09:17
recluxuskennethlove, nor the web helps09:17
FR500XHK: yes i think thats it09:17
pepsiMikeStyle, thats a big fat 404 buddy09:17
Anak1npricha li ko srpski ovde?09:17
MikeStylepepsi, what are you talking about09:17
XHKFR500: I've tried it...09:18
pepsiMikeStyle, i have no clue09:18
MikeStyleohh09:18
MikeStyleok09:18
MikeStyledang :(09:18
kennethloverecluxus: i know someone mentioned some smaller install downloads, but you'll still have to download ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop afterward.09:18
XHKFR500: But do i have to add or replace those things what it says?09:18
FR500XHK: well on my laptop in hoary everything went on smoothly09:18
recluxuskennethlove, thanks i think I'll try the sarge minimal then change the distro to ubuntu09:19
XHKFR500: =/09:19
FR500XHK: but on warty i had to install alsa09:19
kennethloverecluxus: good luck09:19
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recluxuskennethlove, thanks all09:19
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bettong_BOFHis there a linux keyboard?09:19
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XHKFR500: Can u tell me whats written in ur /etc/esound/esd.conf ?09:19
crimsunFR500, "install ALSA"? ALSA has been the default in Ubuntu since the first release...09:19
bettong_BOFHyou know something with tux instaed of the windows logo09:19
FR500crimsun: i meant confiure09:19
WildSurgecan anyone tell me how to change the default refresh rate of the startup screen?09:20
mae_bettong_BOFH, that would be freakin sweet :)09:20
kennethlovebettong_BOFH: .... you won't use that key in linux.09:20
XHKFR500: Can u tell me whats written in ur /etc/esound/esd.conf ?09:20
esjany help with intel 945 mg problems?09:20
bettong_BOFHi know09:20
MikeStyleoh and im running a dell inspiron 5100 laptop. linux picks up that its a laptop and monitors the batery/temp. but as far as i can see there is no way to put my computer in "suspend mode". and it takes a long time to boot up every time. is there a feature to let me "suspend" my laptop?09:20
kennethlovebettong_BOFH, mae_ : scrape and paint. :)09:20
mae_kennethlove, thats not true, my right windows key is bound to opening a terminal09:20
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bettong_BOFHyea thats what i'm gonna have to do >.<09:20
WildSurgewelp, now my sound at least works when i boot09:20
Feleswell, that was interesting09:20
WildSurgesystem still hangs after that tho :(09:20
kennethlovemae_: by default, then. :)09:21
FelesI can't figure out why I can't get my Windows Partition to boot09:21
bettong_BOFHhttp://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/linuxunix/0,39020390,39164303,00.htm09:21
bettong_BOFHfound one09:21
WildSurgewhere should i look when ubuntu just plain hangs hard?09:21
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snow_insted of downloadin/and the installing java re. can i use apt-get to do the complete process? anyone?09:21
bettong_BOFHit even looks sweet ^_^09:21
WildSurgewhile starting gnome09:21
miffesnow_,09:21
FelesI set it in the GRUB menu, but it doesn't want to boot from that partition: says the device doesn't exist or some such error09:22
mae_you know, i'm thinking i just might uninstall xserver-xorg-driver-* seeing as how i use the proprietary nvidia one09:22
MikeStylesnow_ if u want java to be in ur synaptic u gotta add a few repositories...i did and mine showed up so i installed it09:22
miffesnow_, there is a j2re1.4 in breezy09:22
s_wartFeles: exactly what is the error message?09:22
MikeStylecan anyone help with either of my problems?09:22
mae_man, how long till they make xorg smart enough to figure out by itself what driver to use :)09:22
WildSurgeagh!09:23
FelesI can't remember it at the moment... it's very generic09:23
WildSurgewhy does my machine hang when sound works?!09:23
Leonikif i install ubuntu hoary and just update to breezy following ubuntuguide.org... is that the same thing as installing breezy clean?09:23
Feles(sidenote, if I wanted to install XMMS, how would I do that?)09:23
snow_what is breezy?09:23
WildSurgegnome just plain stops loading when the banner pops up09:23
FR500Feles: sudo apt-get instal xmms09:23
mae_snow_, its breezy in here09:23
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Anak1nwhy logoff hang?09:23
WildSurgethere's nothing in var/log/messages either09:24
Felesthank you FR50009:24
zAo^where is gam_serve for?09:24
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s_wartFeles: the devices follow a strict naming convention, but it depends on how you've partitioned your disk09:24
Leonikhow would i want to partition my drive to save my c:?09:25
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mae_will apt ever reach version 1.0?09:25
Feleswell, the windows partition is supposed to be on partition 5 according to the Disk Manager in Ubuntu09:25
Leonikso it should walk me through it during the setup?09:26
puffDang, MikeStyle was a bit impatient.09:26
s_wartLeonik: make sure you back up any data you care about. that's step 009:26
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Leonikdamn i was afraid youd say that09:26
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Anak1nU do not need to backup09:27
[LethAL] How can I share a printer?09:27
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s_wartAnak1n: why do you say that?09:27
WildSurgehrms09:27
Anak1nbecause09:27
Anak1ni install09:27
Anak1nubuntu09:27
WildSurgeit seems esd is what causes the machine to hang09:28
Anak1nand i didn't backup anything09:28
Anak1nand evrything is working fine09:28
Anak1ni do not have win09:28
s_wartthat makes it easier :)09:28
Anak1nbut i have some ntfs partitions09:28
FR500Feles: try this, reboot, and press b, then write the boot sequence as it is (like rootnoverify....... and the clainloader +1 line and boot) just keep changing the partition number until it boots09:28
Leonikand you could keep them easily?09:28
Anak1nyes09:28
Leoniki have my entire drive formatted in ntfs and under c:09:28
Anak1nbut09:28
Leoniki have 100 gigs free of the 15009:29
Anak1nther is a problem09:29
Leonikso can i partition that part?09:29
Anak1nwhich part09:29
Anak1n?09:29
Leonikthe free part09:29
Anak1nyes09:29
Leonikeven tho its part of my windows partition?09:29
Leonikthat wont wreck it will it?09:29
FR500Leonik: yes you need a program to resize the partition09:29
Anak1njust tell ubuntu to use09:29
Anak1nfree space09:29
dinLeonik: partition magic09:29
Anak1nbut09:29
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Anak1nU should backup U r data09:29
brionsigh... i keep creating new folders when i try to open a terminal ;)09:29
Anak1nif u r a beginer09:29
naliothFR500: not so09:29
WildSurgeanyone have any experience with getting alsa to work?09:30
naliothFR500: parted or ntfsresize will do it09:30
Anak1nno p.m.09:30
Buddha|Is there an Ubuntu-PPC channel?09:30
Anak1nno no no p.m.09:30
Anak1nnever09:30
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Leonikwhat do i type in terminal to see how much free space i have?09:30
psycosehi09:30
ompaulWildSurge, what kind of sound card is it?09:30
WildSurgesndblaster awe 3209:30
WildSurgeit *is* working, but somehow esd hangs during boot09:31
psycosewell i'm trying to help someone remotly, running Ubuntu Warty and running out of space ....09:31
ompaulWildSurge, type alsamixer in a terminal see if anything is muted09:31
WildSurgeso i'd prefer to use alsa09:31
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FR500nalioth: but pmagic is far easier09:31
s_wartif you're resizing partitions you should backup. there is a very good chance things will take a turn for the worse09:31
naliothFR500: and costly09:31
WildSurgeompaul when i go to preferences multimedia and i select alsa09:31
Anak1npmagic is risk09:31
WildSurgeit says it cannot build the pipeline or something09:31
ompaulWildSurge, no09:31
Anak1ni lose my data using p.m.09:31
psycoseif some have tips about where could i search for making space thanks..09:31
ompaulWildSurge, start a terminal09:31
FR500hmmm09:31
FR500well thats true09:32
Anak1n:)09:32
WildSurgehang on ompaul, system is booting now09:32
WildSurgeand she's an old beast09:32
Feleswait, FR500 I've been doing that09:32
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Felesbrb, I'll try again09:33
FR500Feles: didnt work?09:33
Felesso far, no09:33
FR500Feles: you gotta write the 3 lines every time09:33
frank23is there anyway to "restart xv" (the video output) right now the video is just a blue screen and I don't want to restart X09:33
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Leonikwhats the terminal command to see how mcuh free space is left?09:33
inc|freakymy ntpupdate always is missed because of a temporary dns failure ... its because my pppoe gets started after the ntp update i guess is there any way to put the dialup stuff before the ntp update?09:33
stpereLeonik, df09:33
frank23Leonik: df09:33
ompaulis ssh installed by default?09:34
FR500(rootnoverify (hd0,0), chainloader +1; boot)09:34
WildSurgeehhh09:34
Buddha|Could someone help me with Ubuntu PPC?09:34
frank23ompaul: I don't think so09:34
ompaulWildSurge, have you dont that?09:34
Leonikthank you thank you!09:34
ompaulfrank23, thanks09:34
WildSurgeso how come when i've chosen alsa as the default soundinput it still starts esd on boot!?09:34
WildSurgei have not ompaul09:34
ompaulfrank23, that explains the holes on my scalp :)09:34
WildSurgeerr not=now09:34
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ompaulWildSurge, tell me when you have :)09:34
FelesFR500 can I message you with what my menu.lst file looks like for GRUB?09:35
WildSurgei have09:35
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WildSurgeif u wanna take it private that's cool too09:35
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MikeStylehey guys, need some more help. i found a mac emulator called Mac-On-Linux (MOL) and its having some errors once i try to compile it from its source....im running kubuntu, how would i run a .rpm?09:35
FR500Feles: well i don't really use windows, thats all i can recall, all u need most the time is that 3 lines09:35
Hendricdoes ubuntu support AC97???? i can;t hear sound on my pc...09:35
Feleshrm, ok09:35
Hendricbut on my newer pc.. it got sound09:35
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FR500MikeStyle: you can alien it so it becomes a deb, but doesnt work all the time09:36
ompaulWildSurge, address the person you are talking to in the channel :) makes it easy to follow a conversation, if there is no name at the start then it is more or less safe to assume that the person is talking to the channel09:36
WildSurgeompaul: k, now what? :)09:36
MikeStyleAlien?09:36
Felesthe one thing that irks me is that in Ubuntu Disk Manager, it says the "Access Path" for the Win Partition is none.09:37
ompaulWildSurge, in the terminal start >alsamixer< with that command, then check it out using the arrow cursor keys to see if anything is muted09:37
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FR500MikeStyle: yes, sudo alien pagkagename.rpm i think09:37
FelesIs that right?09:37
MikeStyleand alien is native in ubuntu09:37
MikeStyle?09:37
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ompaulMikeStyle, well it would be better to find the package on ubuntu09:37
WildSurgeompaul: alsamixer won't start09:37
Hendricin hoary but not in breezy i think09:37
mae_Feles, you can mount the windows partition anywhere you like09:37
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FR500MikeStyle: not sure, but in any case you can apt-get it09:38
WildSurgehrms09:38
WildSurgenow it does, wierd09:38
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ompaulWildSurge,  always wait a moment - until the prompt comes back if you want to suggest that something does not start09:39
WildSurgeompaul: well i started it with an &, guess it didn't want that09:39
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ompaulWildSurge,  heh09:39
Felesmae_ is there a way I can do that?09:39
Hendrichow can i trouble shoot my sound device????09:39
Hendricit doesn't give any sound...09:39
WildSurgeompaul: okay, some things were muted like synth, but i put everything in the green, now what?09:39
Hendricunlike on my newer PC09:39
ompaulWildSurge, type updatedb in the terminal and let me know when it is done09:40
Anak1ncan i ask something?09:41
WildSurgeompaul: i did that 2 hours or so ago already09:41
ompaulWildSurge, cool09:41
WildSurgeompaul: locate... what? :)09:42
Felesbrb again09:42
ompaulWildSurge, sorry I was trying to find something - I was sshed into a server - doh! - now :)09:42
ompaulWildSurge, locate .wav09:43
WildSurgeompaul: k, lotsa sounds09:43
ompaulWildSurge, pick one and and try it with your media player09:43
cyphasehow many people have come ni with firefox problems lately?09:43
WildSurgeit won't work, but k09:44
cyphaselike withing the last day09:44
cyphasewithin*09:44
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ompaulcyphase, have you backports enabled?09:44
ramblingturtlehello,09:44
cyphaseompaul, i fixed my problem :)09:44
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WildSurgeompaul: totem won't even start :(09:44
cyphasei'm just asking because everyone is referred to my blog to fix it..09:44
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ompaulcyphase, over the last week lots09:44
cyphaseand i'm going to be offline for about 6 days09:45
cyphasesince i'm moving09:45
ompaulcyphase, well put it up on the wiki09:45
ompaulthen have the bot point to it09:45
WildSurgeompaul: alsa device default is already in use by another program claims my musicplayer09:45
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cyphasecould you do it? i really don't have the time at the moment09:45
cyphaselol09:45
ramblingturtlei was wondering i upgraded to breezy and had some problems with xorg because of the nvidia-glx that i had installed so i was wondering if there is a issue or something because I have not found anything about it online at this point09:46
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ompaulcyphase, give me the url :-)09:46
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cyphasehttp;//cyphase.homelinux.com/09:46
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ompaulSeveas, what to do that?09:47
BiSK-8hello09:47
cyphaseoops09:47
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Kyralhmm, this is odd09:47
ompaulSeveas, want to do that? :)09:47
KyralBMP spawns two instances of itself09:47
cyphasehttp://cyphase.homelinux.com/09:47
Anak1nyo09:47
Anak1nanyone09:47
Leonikdo could i use partition magic right now in windows and create a new partition out of the free space on my hard drive?09:47
Anak1nhelp with amarok please09:47
WildSurgenow what? :(09:47
Kyralerr, two processes09:47
Leonikand then just select that for my ubuntu install?09:47
BiSK-8i installed brezy, but i have a problem, there is no root terminal, ho do i become root, and why dosent "su" work?09:47
cyphaseBiSK-8, sudo09:47
BiSK-8sudo?09:47
WildSurgeBiSK-8 try sudo -s, or sudo passwd09:48
ramblingturtleleonik: yes you can just make sure it is a linux format09:48
Kyral!tell BiSK-8 about RootSudo09:48
ompaulWildSurge, >> ps auwx | less <<show you anything with sound working it ?09:48
ramblingturtleleonik: there needs to be one partition for root then one for your home directory09:48
BiSK-8so if i type sudo mypass, ill become root?09:48
Kyralonly for that command09:48
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Feleswell, that's not workin09:48
WildSurgeno09:48
ramblingturtleBiSK-8 sudo then your user pswrd09:49
WildSurgeoh wait09:49
Feleshere's the error message... "Invalid Device Requested"09:49
cyphasewhoever puts it up, can you give me the link?09:49
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Feleswhen I try to boot the windows partition09:49
poningruquestion how do I create torrent files?09:49
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KyralHe asked if sudo gives him a Root Shell09:49
WildSurgeompaul: for instance /usr/bin/esd --nobeeps09:49
ramblingturtlesudo su will give a root shell ?09:50
WildSurgeand alsamixer09:50
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BiSK-8if i type sudo i get a sort of list of all the possibile sudo commands09:50
naliothponingru: in a terminal "btmaketorrentgui.py"09:50
shawarmaAm I the only one having problems with usplash since a couple of days ago? ("problems" == it never shows up)09:50
BiSK-8i need 2 become root09:50
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snow_can you install BitchX with apt-get?09:50
ramblingturtleBiSK-8 in a terminal type sudo su09:50
naliothsnow_: yes09:50
shawarmasnow_: Sure.09:51
Belutzsnow_, yes you can09:51
ompaulWildSurge, killall esd09:51
KyralYou don't NEED to become root09:51
snow_E: Couldn't find package bitchx09:51
Kyralyou just have to preface all your commands with sudo :P09:51
BiSK-8oh09:51
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BiSK-8ok09:51
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BiSK-8i got it09:51
ompaulBiSK-8, read wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo09:51
BiSK-8thx man09:51
Belutzsnow_, i think it's BitchX not bitchx09:51
BiSK-8i did09:51
hoderaz|dodohi09:51
WildSurgeompaul: did that already, also killed alsamixer09:51
Kyralthe best part is that sudo sets a timestamp09:52
ompaulWildSurge, now try to play wav09:52
Kyralso for like 15 minutes you don't have to reenter your password09:52
snow_snow@balance:~/Desktop$ sudo apt-get install BitchX09:52
snow_Reading package lists... Done09:52
snow_Building dependency tree... Done09:52
snow_E: Couldn't find package BitchX09:52
WildSurgeompaul: but that doesn't seem to b wanna killed (alsamixer)09:52
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Felesheh, everyone that's helped me so far has left the channel...09:52
ompaulWildSurge, ignore the mixer09:52
hoderaz|dodojust a question : when ubuntu 5.10 will be out ?09:52
tagHow would I start Xnest with ion in it?09:52
ompaulWildSurge, just try the player09:52
deFrysksnow_, leave the caps09:52
B_166-ER-Xwhats a good bittorrent client for ubuntu ?09:52
ramblingturtleso anybody else have problems with nvidia-glx when upgrading to Colony 509:53
insiteshoderaz|dodo, oct09:53
insitesB_166-ER-X, azureus09:53
mellonit comes with one installed.09:53
snow_defrysk, i've tried bitchx aswell09:53
hoderaz|dodoinsites : is it the 13 ?09:53
Kyralramblingturtle, you need to download and install the NVidia package manually09:53
ompaulWildSurge, I am going to type up the firefox thing before it gets lost09:53
prometoyssnow_ it is in universe09:53
snow_i just done update and upgrade09:53
B_166-ER-Xinsites : i tried to install it, but it saying OOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /usr/java/  hierarchy09:53
deFrysk!info bitchx09:53
ubotubitchx: (Advanced Internet Relay Chat client), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1:1.0-0c19.20030512-2 (hoary), Packaged size: 1352 kB, Installed size: 6232 kB09:53
Kyralthen use BitTornado09:53
ompaulWildSurge, back in a couple of mins09:53
B_166-ER-Xand i looked for the missing package and cannot find it09:53
deFrysksnow_, its in universe09:53
snow_that means?09:53
insitesB_166-ER-X,  you installed jre 1.5?09:54
Belutzsnow_, you must enable the universe repos first09:54
B_166-ER-Xtornado doesnt show up where he is supposed to be09:54
WildSurgeompaul: k, well sound sorta works now, but i have a sneaky suspicion it started esd to make it work09:54
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snow_ohh, someone please tell me=)09:54
B_166-ER-Xi didnt find any JRE package09:54
Kyralbittornado-gui09:54
KenseyI get a kernel panic trying to boot the new kernel I just compiled09:54
Kyralor something like that09:54
deFrysk!tell snow_ about repositories09:54
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Kyraland the JRE isn't in the Repos anymore09:54
ramblingturtleKyral, will it mess up anything because i just got x working again but my graphics are really bad without the nvidia-glx09:54
deFrysksnow_, read ubotu's message09:54
InitMasswhich is the best way to upgrade to breezy? is it to change everything from hoary to breezy in /etc/apt/sources.list, and then make an apt-get dist-ugrade?09:54
Kensey"Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)"09:55
poningrunalioth: thanks man09:55
Kyralramblingturtle, just go to NVidia.com, download the driver (7667, NOT 7676)09:55
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insitesB_166-ER-X, http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre09:55
jpfariashi09:55
deFryskinsites, no no no09:55
Kyralinsites, that won't work anymore09:55
insitessorry then.09:55
B_166-ER-XKyral , i have a shortcut for the bittornado gui, but i want it to be accessible in the download menu of firefox like 'open with'09:55
jpfariashey guys09:55
deFrysk!ubuntuguide09:55
uboturumour has it, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.09:55
jpfariasis there a way to say ssh to not ask my password?09:56
KyralB_166-ER-X, try pointing firefox to the bin file09:56
B_166-ER-Xubuntuguide IS out ofdate09:56
prometoysdoes somebody use breezy on ibookG4? i have problems with suspend to ram?09:56
ryufreak!w32codecs09:56
ubotu[w32codecs]  a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy). 64-bit? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5439909:56
jpfariaslike storing it in a file or something else...09:56
FelesAnyone have any clue how to fix my booting into windows problem?09:56
B_166-ER-Xwhy did they removed jre ??09:57
FelesWhen I set the partition in GRUB and try to boot, it says: "Invalid device requested"09:57
ramblingturtleKyral, thanks I will give it a try and one other quick question i am unable to boot to kernel 2.6.12 after upgrading but everything else is working fine is there a way to get the new kernel to boot09:57
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holycowhellow fellow ubuntuleers09:57
holycow-_-09:57
reiki_workI have a strong suspicion that I'm about to ask a dumb question... but what is Colony 5?  When I go to that link the downloads look like Breezy install and live CD images. I'm confused. I thought Colony 5 was a game. :)09:58
Kyralramblingturtle, drop to a VT, type "CC=gcc-3.4 && export CC" then "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" then "sudo sh <NVidia Package Name>" and finally "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and MAKE SURE to pick the NVidia module, not nv, and also to load every module exept DRI09:58
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Kyralthen just startx09:58
BiSK-8there09:58
BiSK-8that worked09:58
BiSK-8im chattin' from breezy09:58
NinjewDoes anybody know an app in linux that can convert mp3s tagged with apev3 to id3v2?09:58
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KyralB_166-ER-X, I have no clue why the JRE was removed09:59
insitesNinjew, i think it is call eastTag09:59
insiteseasyTag09:59
holycowcolony 5 is the codename for the latest release candidate/beta if y ou will09:59
insitesbut not sure.09:59
Leonikif i use partition magic to make the linux ones will that be sufficient for ubuntu?09:59
ryufreakwhats the command to install stuff?09:59
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insitesryufreak, apt-get09:59
Felesryufreak: apt-get09:59
Kyral!tell ryufreak about apt09:59
Kenseyis it safe to use the Ubuntu 2.6.10-5-386 initrd with a kernel custom-compiled from kernel-sources and kernel-patches?09:59
Ninjewinsites: easytag can't read apev3 tags on mp3s, only on .mpc files or whatever09:59
mellonyou can get colony 5 from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/breezy/10:00
insitesNinjew, sorry then thats all i know.10:00
ramblingturtleKyral, ok but i am not all that command line literate but i am not afraid either so here I go.10:00
Ninjewinsites: Thanks :)10:00
insitesnp.10:00
ryufreak!w32codecs10:00
ubotuI heard w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy). 64-bit? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5439910:01
Kyralramblingturtle, the Command Line is your friend if you learn it :D10:01
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poningrunalioth: ok its not working10:01
WildSurgeompaul: eagerly awaiting ur return ;)10:01
poningruit just says command not found10:01
poningrubtmaketorrentgui.py10:01
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MikeStylehey guys i need some help installing MOL(Mac on Linux)10:02
shawarmaIs usplash working for anyone?10:02
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reiki_workholycow: ahh... so the *actual* release will be Dapper Drake but the *candidate* release is called Colony 5... ok... I can accept that. :)  I don't *understand* it entirely, but I can accept that. :)10:03
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FR500Feles: did you get it to work?10:04
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WildSurgeugh, it seems one cannot uninstall esound without uninstalling the entire ubuntu desktop either :(10:05
avalostmmm vault soda is so tasty10:05
shawarmaKensey: Mr. Shuttleworth, I think.10:05
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deFryskWildSurge, ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage representing a set of packages10:05
WildSurgedeFrysk: understood as much, not much use uninstalling esound then10:06
WildSurgehowever my system hangs when esound gets started10:06
deFryskWildSurge, why uninstall esound ?10:06
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deFryskWildSurge, you are in gnome ?10:06
WildSurgeyes10:06
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deFryskWildSurge, strange ,10:07
WildSurgeyes10:07
cevizogluubotu, you suck10:07
ubotuI don't know, cevizoglu10:07
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deFryskis it an app that causes it WildSurge ?10:07
WildSurgeit hangs on booting10:07
cevizogluhaha, sweet revenge10:07
WildSurgeand then it continues booting as soon as i kill esd10:07
deFryskWildSurge, you made your own kernel ?10:07
WildSurgedeFrysk: stock hoary10:08
snow_found bitchx now=) thanks10:08
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WildSurgedeFrysk: it doesn't autodetect my soundcard tho, so i added it to /etc/modules10:08
deFryskWildSurge, on board soundcard ?10:08
WildSurgesnd-sbawe10:08
WildSurgeold isa soundblaster 32, original (extra long)10:08
snow_one other thing, i need java, not gnu java that comes with ubuntu. how can i isntall that with apt-get?10:09
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deFryskWildSurge, oh gosh , if you have a pci slot left I would get another soundcard10:09
WildSurgedeFrysk: i've been trying to for days to get it to work10:09
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s_warthow do I set up a print server on ubuntu so that a windows client can print to it? I can print to the local printer from linux, but the windows box can't see the printer10:10
WildSurgedeFrysk: buying a new sound card is out of the question, this is volunteer work with volunteer hardware10:10
absenths_wart, cups, and samba.10:10
deFryskok10:10
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snow_i need a program that makes a pop3 server for hotmail etc. so i can check my hotmails with my own email client. like mrpostman, anyone know any other progs?10:10
s_wartabsenth: I've got cups installed and printer broadcast enabled - what does samba have to do with it?10:11
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WildSurgedeFrysk: sound actually does come out of my speakers, it just conflicts with something else and then hangs halfway thru playing the startup sound10:11
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absenths_wart, if the user doesn't need to authenticate in order to print (ie you don't care who on the lan has access to the printer) in your smb.conf file there's an option near the end under printers that by default is [private = yes]  change that to no, and it will go very smoothly.10:12
s_wartabsenth: excellent, that's exactly what I want. thanks10:12
absenths_wart, I've never been able to attach a windows client to a linux local printer without samba, or lp_server10:12
sviestainisi have a problem: i just bought an usb flash storage, but something went wrong while mounting it. it says "can't read superblock". can anyone help?10:12
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absenths_wart, however I'm also not a printer genius...  there may be a better way.10:12
s_wartabsenth: I don't usually print stuff at home, but my wife is complaining :)10:13
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sviestainisi have a problem: i just bought an usb flash storage, but something went wrong while mounting it. it says "can't read superblock". can anyone help?10:13
absenths_wart, I have a jet direct in my Laserjet 5 at home.  makes life very easy for me.10:13
s_wartabsenth: the thought of buying a smart printer is tempting :)10:14
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absenths_wart best of luck....  Samba has a huge number of help docs online.  a friend and I spent part of a saturday grinding through the process.  with a little help from O'Reilly's "network printing" book.10:15
absenths_wart once we figured out the private=no bit, it was a LOT easier.10:15
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s_wartabsenth: thanks. I've poked around a lot with it on my nslu2, but not for printing. cups on ubuntu is disabled and the gui is maybe a bit too primitive10:15
s_wartat least the admin functions are disabled10:16
ryufreakanyone know how to install skins for xmms?10:17
deFryskryufreak, copy the skinpackages in .xmms/Skins or whatever the name of the hidden folder is10:18
avalostryufreak, yeah, man xmms you can install them locally of syswide.. very easy read the man pages10:18
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deFryskryufreak, dont unpack the themes , that not needed10:18
sobersabrehi, i've got an ssh forwarding q.10:18
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ompaulWildSurge, hoary I take it?10:19
WildSurgeompaul: the bane of all soundusers, aye10:19
sobersabrei have many hosts i want to connect somehow through a tunnel.10:19
ompaulWildSurge, any chance you could consider breezy?10:19
ryufreakty all10:19
BiSK-8how do i install themes into ubuntu?10:20
ompaulWildSurge, and no I will not promise you it will work or not have 5million megs of download inthe next few days10:20
avalostBiSK-8, what kind of 'themes'?10:20
sobersabreis it possible to instruct ssh create a tunnel on demand, or will I have to open all the possible localports ?10:20
WildSurgeompaul: i need to have this system ready tomorrow, and it has to run without maintenace from me10:20
ompaulWildSurge, ahh10:20
BiSK-8avalost, i downloaded a theme from gnome-look.org and extraceted the tarball 2 my desktop, now what?10:20
WildSurgeompaul: for the tech-illiterate10:21
avalostBiSK-8, you should not extract them, just go to system "lthemes" and install from the gnome panel10:21
avalostselect the archive and click install10:21
deFryskdrag and drop the package in ther theme10:22
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deFryskthats the easyers way10:22
WildSurgeompaul: i found something abt esound in the ubuntu-guide, should i try that?10:22
avalostyeah you can do that too10:22
jimmy_neutronwhat do i have to do, to set up a freenx key?10:22
xiaogilis it normal that it takes hours to "Starting MySQL database server: mysqld" while i'm upgrading to breezy ?10:22
BiSK-8avalost, i do, but which file do i install?10:22
avalostthe tar10:22
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BiSK-8the extracetd folder is full of files10:22
avalostleave the tar compressed10:22
BiSK-8oh10:22
BiSK-8i c10:22
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ompaulWildSurge, guide .... save any file you edit before you start playing with that stuff10:23
ompaul!tell WildSurge about ubuntuguide10:23
deFryskBiSK-8, things are easyer then you expect right ? ;)10:23
BiSK-8lol10:23
BiSK-8ye10:23
BiSK-8p10:23
BiSK-8usually they are actually10:23
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WildSurgerite, well i am more than happy to have u help me instead ompaul :)10:24
deFryskBiSK-8, gnome is made for ease of use , no hassle10:24
BiSK-8and what abt splash screens?10:24
jimmy_neutronwhat do i have to do, to set up a freenx key?10:24
ompaulWildSurge, give me the url for that it could be someting I did myself10:24
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WildSurgehttp://www.ubuntuguide.org/10:24
WildSurgethen search for esound10:25
s_wartwhen I use cupsaddsmb -a it's prompting me for a root password on localhost - nothing seems to work there; I reset the password, but it still fails (!?)10:25
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ompaulBiSK-8, can you please put all your thoughts on a subject on          one         line it         makes for           an easy read10:25
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Spudchathi everyone :)10:26
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Spudchatim looking to add a directory permanately to the $PATH...how would i do that?10:26
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ompaulWildSurge, I can't get to that ...10:26
WildSurgehttp://www.ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly <-- ?10:26
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KenseyAnybody else ever gotten the VFS not syncing kernel panic?10:27
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WildSurgei can copy paste it, but not allowed to do it in here ;)10:27
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poningruKensey: do you have a usb or a camera or something?10:27
BiSK-8how do i install splash screens?10:27
poningruerr usb flash drive10:27
Kenseynope, I just compiled a custom kernel from the Ubuntu kernel source packages10:28
poningruor anything similar connected?10:28
naliothWildSurge: use a pastebin10:28
ompaulWildSurge, I did that - and it worked on my box - before you do just in case it does not - back up the files you edit10:28
poningruKensey: what do you mean you compiled?10:28
WildSurgeompaul: willdo10:28
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KenseyI mean I compiled.10:28
poningrudid you just install it using synaptic/apt? or compiled?10:28
poningruoh10:28
Kenseymake menuconfig, etc.10:28
poningruhmm you sure you got the right proc10:28
poningruright10:28
Kenseyyep, PIII Coppermine10:29
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poningrudo you have any weird HW?10:29
Kenseynot any weirder than any other laptop10:29
poningrulike a crazy cd drive or a crazy floppy10:29
poningruKensey: dude10:29
poningruKensey: its the laptop10:29
Kenseythe stock kernel boots fine, but I need a kernel without preemption enabled10:29
Kenseyso it's not the laptop :P10:29
ryufreak!theme10:29
uboturyufreak: Bugger all, i dunno10:29
poningruhmm10:30
avalostryufreak, prob?10:30
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BooZeehello10:30
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nerpbleh10:30
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BooZeeI had some probs with ubuntu, so I installed it all over again. and now (for some strange reason) I can't change the screen resolution.10:31
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ryufreakcan't install a theme =x10:32
poningruKensey: so you didnt flag anything differently than the optomize and preemption?10:32
ryufreaki got lots of problems haha10:32
poningrudifferent from the stock kernel I mean10:32
nerpryufreak, all you need to do is install it in your ~/.xmms themes dire, restart xmms and select theme10:32
nerpit's not that hard10:32
ryufreakno not xmms nerp10:32
ryufreakgdm10:32
poningruI gotta read up on preemption I am not so knowledgable about that10:33
ryufreaksystem->perf->theme doesn't work, says format is invalid10:33
nerpryufreak, gdm themes are easy too10:33
poningrurofl10:33
KenseyI disabled a bunch of drivers I didn't need, like RAID stuff, etc10:33
timstokmanhey all, I just installed ubuntu but my sound doesn't, are there any program's to detect my hardware/soundcard on ubuntu?10:33
nerpryufreak, google "Howto change gdm theme"10:33
poningruKensey: hmm10:33
ryufreakk10:33
poningru!tell timstokman about sound10:34
poningruKensey: I have no idea dude10:34
poningrusorry10:34
poningru!tell BooZee about resolution10:35
ryufreakwheres system configuration?10:35
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WildSurgeompaul: here goes nothing, rebooting now10:35
WildSurgedoes breezy handle sound better?10:36
deFryskWildSurge, yes10:37
deFryskit does10:37
D1how do you mean?10:37
D1more support for sound cards?10:37
ompaulWildSurge,  I have found it to - but your going to have changes10:37
tiredbonesI have Hoary installed for over 6 months now and I'm starting to have problems with evolution. I can not expung my deleted messages. Google was not help. Can someone point me to some doc?10:37
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poningrutiredbones: whats wrong now?10:40
poningruit just wont expunge?10:41
poningruhmm10:41
poningrucan you do other things to the folders? like move email around and stuff10:41
BiSK-8i got a problem, when i install a dark theme like a black one, i cant see the urls and writing on my firefox10:42
BiSK-8what should i do?10:42
tiredbonesponingru, when I try to expung my message I get the following error: Error while Expunging folder  1/.evoulution/mail/local/Inbox, Summary and filter mismatch10:42
poningruhmm10:43
poningrutiredbones: yeah I dont know dude wait around till someone more knowledgable comes around10:45
poningruor post on the forums10:45
poningruBiSK-8: dude thats probably a theme bug10:45
bpfanyone know if the Eclipse IDE works with Hoary on amd64?10:45
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poningrubut which theme are you using10:45
poningrutiredbones: I only know about thunderbird10:45
tiredbonesponingru, I also notice that when I delete an e-mail it doesn't show in the Trah.10:45
tiredbonesponingru, I also notice that when I delete an e-mail it doesn't show in the Trash.10:45
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ompaulSpudchat,10:46
Buddha|Could someone help me with Ubuntu PPC?10:46
ompaulSpudchat,  /etc/profile is where the path is held10:46
Spudchatyes? eheh10:46
Spudchatty very much10:46
ompaulSpudchat, just tell me how long was that?10:46
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Spudchati didnt think i would get an answer :)10:47
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clinfixcan I use debian mirrors? I cant find the xnumlock10:48
ompaulSpudchat, it was 20 minutes there is also a reference to .bashrc but that local to each user I assume you want system wide10:48
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Spudchatyeah its just me on here10:48
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naliothclinfix: debian mirrors WILL hose your machine10:49
naliothclinfix: better to have apt-get build from source10:49
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ompaulSpudchat, sorry its also .bash_profile10:49
snow_nyone running freepops?10:49
ompaulSpudchat, local user issues and global10:49
FR500snow_: what is frrepops?10:49
edwardcan i dual-boot debian and ubuntu and share a home dir, or will that break things?10:49
edwardactually i guess they have different versions of gnome so it won't work10:49
Spudchatso should i add it in above the else statement or after you think?10:50
clinfixnalioth:okey than I have try to play mp3 , there is a ftp site that user document mentioned that is not responding10:50
ompauledward, your getting the picture :)10:50
poningrutiredbones: can you move emails around to other folders?10:50
ompauledward, if you had a mad /etc/fstab I guess you could share some stuff but man it would be mad10:50
naliothclinfix: what does mp3 have to do with xnumlock?10:50
poningrutiredbones: it may be a problem with your imap server10:50
FR500snow_: what is freepops? I got confused with poptop10:51
Spudchatthe only difference is that after else it includes a place for games so i think ill add it there10:51
edwardi figure i could just have a 'shared' directory in my home-dir10:51
edwardmount it from both10:51
tiredbonesponingru, Let me give that a try.10:51
nerpfinally got all of e17 compiled without a hitch time to test the fruits of my labor10:51
clinfixnalioth, :no it was a different question, I will try to build xnumlock10:51
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snow_FR500, freepops lets you check hotmail etc in yor local emai client!10:51
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FR500oh10:52
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WildSurgeompaul: u still around?10:52
ompaulWildSurge, I am very round - in fact so round that I am almost circular10:52
timstokmanit seems that ubuntu has correctly detected my sound card (SB Live!) but it just doesn't play any sound.10:53
WildSurgeompaul: basically that did nuffin :/10:53
timstokmanthe docs give a couple of tests and a reference to alsa drivers10:53
timstokmanshould i try these?10:53
WildSurgecourse disabling system event sounds do allow me to boot, but little else10:53
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ompaulWildSurge, breezy? if you ahve the bandwidth grab the live CD and test it first10:53
ompaulWildSurge, yes I know what you said10:54
WildSurgegreat, now i can't even access the sound prefs :(10:54
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ompaulWildSurge, now you know why I told you do make a copy before you editied10:54
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ompaulWildSurge, edited10:55
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spiral'bye10:55
tiredbonesponingru, I was able to move a message from trah back to my Inbox.10:55
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mohkohnHas anyone here used qemu or xen?10:56
WildSurgeompaul: gotta go talk to my roommie for a bit, will bbl10:56
WildSurgethx for the help so fasr10:57
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poningrutiredbones: hmm10:57
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tiredbonesDoes anyone know what path evolution keeps the Trash file? I can't seem to find it.10:58
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Seveastiredbones, the tricky thing is: the trash does not exist10:59
Seveasevolution keeps the mail where it is, it just flags it as trashed10:59
don824chani need to activate my infrared on my Dell Latitude CPx10:59
don824chanand i'm not entirely sure how10:59
timstokmananyone?10:59
don824chanis there anyone here who can answer questions?11:00
[LethAL] No11:00
FR500timstokman: what was your question11:00
don824chani searched for infrared on the wiki but i couldn't find anything relevant11:01
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FR500don824chan: it's user community, you gotta wait some 10 minutes for someone to answer before "pushing" or something11:01
timstokmanI asked about my soundcard, I checked the docs on the website and they gave a couple of tests11:01
sambagirlgas go up 1 dollar here in 2 days!!!11:01
tiredbonesSeveas, Do you know what is happening when the error message says,:Summary and filter mismatch.11:01
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don824chanwell its just no one is talking11:01
sambagirloh no! how i drive my xjs v12????11:01
timstokmanit turns out linux detected my soundcard correctly11:01
don824chanat all11:01
linnerhello everyone...11:01
sambagirlopps wrong channel sorry11:01
timstokmanbut it just doesn't work11:01
FR500don824chan: try looking up in google with linux and the device name11:02
don824chanthats the thing, i don't know the device name11:02
timstokmanshould i try these alsa sounddrivers?11:02
tiredbonesSeveas, What it checking for?11:02
Epputimstokman: Are you sure you have the volumes turned up and not muted? Have you tried the alsamixer command?11:02
linnerI understand that I can generate a gnupg key on my ubuntu system.  Am I correct?11:02
don824chani looked in my device manager but i didn't see anything11:02
FR500timstokman: did u check the wiki11:02
naliothlinner: yes11:02
linnernalioth:  ok... my question is where would I find the gnupg program?11:02
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timstokmanvolume is turned up11:03
FR500timstokman: u should ask before pm'ing11:03
timstokmanand i am now trying alsamixer11:03
tiredbonesSeveas, What files would I be safe to delete and start over?11:03
timstokmanbut i am not sure what to do with it?11:04
Travis|HThis is sort of a funky question .... but here goes ... I come from a Windows background and am used to Microsoft Excel for spreadsheets ... OpenOffice Calc = Excel basically .. however I am trying to do some conditional formatting11:04
Epputimstokman: In alsamixer, make sure that at least the Master and PCM volumes are up and not muted (marked as MM)11:04
Travis|Hfor some reason the dialog doesn't let me set a color/style for the condition of the format :(11:04
Travis|Hbasically I want to make every other line a certain color11:04
don824chani found my infrared connector in my device manager but i'm not entirely sure what good that does me due to the fact that i don't see it's name anywhere11:05
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FR500don824chan: is it external or something?11:06
don824channo11:06
Seveastiredbones, sorry, never seen that before11:06
Seveascan't say anything useful about it11:06
don824chanFR500: it says its external but its not11:07
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don824chanit says bios.external_connector_type:string:Infrared11:08
shinuare the backports down or something?11:09
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poningrushinu: are you using the mirrormax or something backports or the official backports?11:12
shinumirrormax11:12
shinuponingru: mirrormax11:12
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Leoniki want to parition the hard drive for ext2 not 3 right?11:12
nerphmm, any of you guys running e17?11:12
poningrushinu: thats shut down11:12
cyphase(Auto Message) Hey everyone. I'm going to be offline for about 6 days since I'm moving. Since my blog is hosted in my room, it's going to be offline as well. Just to let you know.11:12
poningruuse the official11:12
pluffsyI have a problem with something called bonobo-activation server that won't start which seems to affect lots of gnome apps. any ideas of what I can do?11:13
shinuponingru: ok thanks11:13
poningrushinu: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main restricted universe multiverse11:13
poningrufor more reading11:13
poningru!tell shinu about backports11:13
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shinuponingru: great thanks! :)11:14
poningrushinu: np11:14
mohkohnIs skype broken in breezy?11:14
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kemikmohkohn:  is skype in the ubuntu repos for breezy?11:14
linnermohkohn:  no11:15
pluffsyskype is evil11:15
pluffsy:)11:15
holycowbut they have ubuntu packages!11:15
mohkohnskype: Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3.2) but it is not installable11:15
holycowdontcha hate it when evil makes it so easy to be evil?11:15
nerphmm, anyone have any idea as to why e17 will not show up in my gdm session after adding an enlightenment.desktop in two directories it reads for the files?11:15
holycowkemik, no, download the debs from skype them selves11:16
pluffsyholycow: gizmo and gnomemeeting is easy too :)11:16
mohkohnI was following the "destructions" in the wiki11:16
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kemikholycow:  mm i did so in hoary... but his question had me thinking it was "officially ported"11:16
holycowno11:17
holycowi doubt it ever will be11:17
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holycowpluffsy, yeah i would preffer to use gizmo indeed11:17
ompaulmohkohn, >> deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ ubuntu-seveas breezy-extras11:18
ompaul << add that to /etc/apt/sources.list and then >>sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install skype<<11:18
mohkohnthanks I'll try that11:18
pluffsyto be serious for a while, I really belive it's a good idea to try avoding closed protocols for such basic things as voip. it's something that really should be free as in freedom11:18
ompaulmohkohn, don't try, do :)11:18
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kemikthere is no try11:19
kemikonly do11:19
kemikomg11:19
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ompaulkemik, try is the way of others11:19
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esac_why doesn't the network startup kick off in the background ?11:21
mohkohnompaul does he have a gpg key? so I don't get the The following packages cannot be authenticated!11:21
ompaulmohkohn, that is the way of skype11:22
xiaogilmysql 4.1 doesn't work anymore since i have upgraded to breezy, what can i do ?11:22
ompaulmohkohn, mohkohn I presume he does11:22
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inc|freakywhat programs can i use for beeing able to view stuff captured by my webcam?11:23
inc|freakygot a logitech quickcam 300011:23
[LethAL] camorama might do that inc|freaky11:23
inc|freakythx :D11:24
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darklogicinc|freaky, gimp11:26
inc|freakylol [LethAL]  it tries to capture pictures etc. from my pctv card from pinnacle11:26
[LethAL] Oh11:26
inc|freakydarklogic: no i want to record videos11:26
darklogicinc|freaky, oh okay :)11:26
[LethAL] Speaking of webcams... ** finds his webcam's model **11:27
[LethAL] Anyone know how to get a Meade ETX-105EC running (USB)11:27
[LethAL] Gimp doesn't see it11:27
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inc|freakywhat is the program called again what is in the breezy repositorys for managing packages ...?11:30
sobersabrehas anybody here tried evolution on breezy with exchange account ?11:30
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Travis|HI am trying to use Calc (Excel program of OpenOffice) for conditional formatting to "band" colors (every other line is a certain color) ....... I'm trying to use "=MOD(ROW(),2)=1" as "Formula Is" ....... but it isn't working11:31
Travis|Hdoes Calc use a different method to achieve this?11:31
[LethAL] Travis|H, No idea, maybe you could try running Excel through WINE?11:32
BusMasteri have a toshiba tecra a3 laptop. When  use suspend or hibernate, and press the power button to turn it out of those states, the laptop starts, but I see nothing on screen and the laptop does not take any input. I am using hoary, with a self-rolled kernel 2.6.13.2, what could be the issue?11:32
[LethAL] inc|freaky, Synaptic?11:32
inc|freakyno not synaptic11:32
sobersabreTravis|H, have you tried: =MOD(ROW(),2)==1 ?11:32
[LethAL] gnome-apps-install I think?11:32
sobersabrewhere is the condition ?11:32
inc|freakythe thing comming with breezy and which is not in 5,411:32
inc|freaky5.411:32
mohkohnI am only using my fingers and toes for counting but there are some pretty good online docs for openoffice11:32
GnonthgolTo newbies: We just found out there is a #ubuntu-newbie chanel11:33
mohkohnGoogle should help.11:33
Travis|Hsobersaber: yea still doesn't work11:33
pluffsyhow does one make an at on an american keyboard?11:33
[LethAL] inc|freaky, gnome-app-install11:33
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[LethAL] pluffsy, shift 211:33
kemikpluffsy:  shit 211:33
[LethAL] I think11:33
[LethAL] LMAO11:33
Anak1nhelp11:33
kemik*shift*11:33
sobersabreTravis|H, do a debug: 1. how can u set a color, 2. how can you make a condition true11:33
Anak1nplease my X is down11:33
Travis|H[LethAL] : and I don't have a licence for another copy of Excel so I can't use it11:33
sobersabreetc.11:33
Anak1ni'm now on ubuntu live11:33
sobersabreAnak1n, you don't really need X11:34
[LethAL] Travis|H, ah...11:34
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sobersabrehave you read the hardware compatibility list ?11:34
Anak1nhow do U mean i don't need11:34
Anak1n?11:34
Anak1nyes11:34
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Anak1nI think problem is11:34
sobersabreand is your hardware in there ?11:34
Anak1nnvidia 766711:34
Lars_GI'm unbearably lazy, where is the howto for equiv please?11:34
Anak1nhow to uninstall11:34
Anak1n?11:34
[LethAL] Anak1n, try talking on one line11:34
nerpbah: what directory does gdm "definitely" read .. having probs addind another WM manually11:35
Anak1nok11:35
mohkohnTravis|H, http://ooodocs.sourceforge.net/ this forum might help11:35
Anak1nI install nvidia driver 7667 and x crash11:35
nerpwanna add the *.desktop tried the standard dirs, doesn't work though11:35
Anak1nhow can I fix it11:35
kemikAnak1n:  edit xorg.conf and use the original driver11:35
kemiki guess11:35
[LethAL] Anak1n, X wouldn't crash if you did that11:35
pluffsydamn... the swedish shortcut nor the american works...11:35
Travis|HThank you mohkohn11:35
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kemikpluffsy:  vad frsker du gra?11:35
Anak1nhow do U think original driver?11:36
pluffsygnome won't work and xfce seems to miss lots of basic stuff (like mac keyboard support)11:36
[LethAL] kemik, "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and change nvidia to nv under drivers I think11:36
RMeistenought with the seriousness, now this: http://terpsboy.com/blogpics04/fishnet22.jpg11:36
[LethAL] Anak1n even11:36
kemik[LethAL] :  exactly ;)11:36
Anak1n:S11:36
pluffsykemik: The bonobo-activation server won't start and I have no I dea what to do about that so I tried xfce instead. :(11:37
Anak1nI do that11:37
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kemikpluffsy:  ok. no idea what bonobo is11:37
kemik;)11:37
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pluffsykemik: damn... it seems to be something apps like nautlius and evolution use.11:38
[LethAL] I think it's some bigass part of the backand11:38
[LethAL] !bonobo11:38
ubotu[LethAL] : Did you get hit by a windmill?11:38
[LethAL] !lart himself11:38
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[LethAL] ;)11:38
pluffsyhmmm bonobo-activation seems to be something for CORBA servers and well I don't even know what that is so I guess it's nothing I use.11:39
dooglusnice new wallpaper in the recent breezy update!11:39
pluffsyarghhhhh11:39
nerpkemik, any experience adding a WM to gdm manually?11:39
nerpon breezy11:39
kemikpluffsy:  seems gnome uses bonobo11:40
[LethAL] nerp, install selectwm maybe?11:40
nerp[LethAL] , prob is, i've added the desktop entries and gdm for some reason will not read them11:40
pluffsymaybe I should try kde :( what do I need to install to get that running? kdesktop and what kdm?11:41
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nerpi'll check selectwm..11:41
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Anak1nok if U won't help me tell me only how to go on internet from failsafe and I'm gone11:42
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kemikpluffsy:  kubuntu-desktop i guess is a nice metapackage11:42
dooglusnerp: you just have to put the new .desktop file in one of the directories gdm looks in, then restart gdm11:43
kemikAnak1n:  we did help  you11:43
kemikAnak1n:  [LethAL]  and I told you what you could do11:43
nerpdooglus, I have.. i've rebooted.. no action ;/11:43
dooglusnerp: gdm looks in these places: SessionDesktopDir=/etc/X11/sessions/:/etc/dm/Sessions/:/usr/share/gdm/BuiltInSessions/:/usr/share/xsessions/11:43
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shadeofgreyhi guys11:43
stperehello shadeofgrey11:44
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nerpdooglus, just for kicks i've added the .desktop file in ALL of those places, still noaction11:44
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shadeofgreyanybody know how to get DVD playback in totem with breezy??  libdvdcss2 is broken apparently...  i tried that earlier and it doesnt work11:44
[LethAL] pluffsy, kubuntu-desktop is good :P11:44
Anak1nkemik: I do that and nothing crash again11:44
stpereshadeofgrey, I suggest using totem-xine11:45
nerpand to make matters worse: sudo: gdm-restart: command not found11:45
pluffsybut I like gnome :(11:45
kemiknerp:  i think you should add it in .xsession  ?11:45
pluffsydamn non-working gnome11:45
dooglusnerp: I guess the .desktop file is wrong then.  see https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/2381 for how I got enlightenment added to gdm11:45
stpereshadeofgrey, but I'm not familiar with breezy11:45
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kemikpluffsy:  installing hoary fails for you then ?11:45
nerpdooglus, will do11:45
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shadeofgreywhat does totem-xine do?11:45
[LethAL] nerp, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart11:45
[LethAL] nerp, if that fails, sudo killall gdm;sudo gdm11:45
[LethAL] ; sudo gdm*11:45
dooglus[LethAL] : he rebooted...11:46
kemikAnak1n:  ok.. well there is "lynx" and "links" if you want to surf the WWW in textmode11:46
stpereshadeofgrey, it's totem but using the xine backend rather than gstreamer11:46
xiaogili have got the following error msg: Errors during execution: postfix mutt lsb-core mailx mysql-server-4.1 lsb-graphics lsb lsb-cxx. What shall i do ?11:46
[LethAL] dooglus, sorry... wireless went down for 4 mins11:46
stpereshadeofgrey, it's usually more successful11:46
xiaogilwhen upgrading to breezy11:46
nerpdooglus, my .desktop entries are identical11:46
shadeofgreyby the way id just like to say thanks to everybody who helps out here.  ive learned a lot of linux bexcause of all of you11:46
pluffsykemik, the installation doesn't fail but gnome first randomly gave me these errors (bonobo-activation server bla bla, nautrilus couldn't start, etc.) but now the error is every time I boot, maybe after I made an update in the Update manager.11:46
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shadeofgreyandit feels amazing to not be billy gates' bitch anymore11:47
dooglusshadeofgrey: yes, Linus T. makes a much nicer pimp.11:47
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kemikpluffsy:  could be.. did you add non-official repos. and/or backports?11:47
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shadeofgreydoog:  welll....  comparatively i suppose you'd say linus is cuter.... but i have no opinion11:47
pluffsykemik, I have universe added11:47
Anak1nok11:47
Anak1nther is no use11:48
dooglusshadeofgrey: not such a bitter aftertaste IMHO11:48
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xiaogilI have got the following error msg: * Starting web server (Apache2)...                                    [fail] 11:48
xiaogilwhat can i do ?11:48
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Anak1n!kill Anak1n11:48
ubotuAnak1n: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?11:48
kemikpluffsy:  dont think that would mess up your system really...11:49
_iGadget_Hi all11:49
pluffsykemik, hmmmm... :/11:49
kemikpluffsy:  try a complete reinstall perhaps ?11:49
pluffsykemik, I've tried that multiple times. both standard and server install and adding gnome with apt-get11:49
TachyonI'm trying to add a printer to Ubuntu that's hooked up to a separate XP machine over a network.  I've made it to the setup (Add a Printer) to use a Samba printer, but I'm not quite sure how to enter the rest of the details.  I've entered the IP Address of that computer as my host, and the Printer's share name (Printer) as the printer name, but I'm not sure what to put for "username" and "password"11:49
pluffsykemik, and with different cd:s too11:50
[LethAL] Tachyon, try the XP users's info11:50
kemikok. then ubuntu doesnt like your system i guess11:50
[LethAL] Tachyon, It's worse for me, I'm trying to do it the other way round11:50
kemikpluffsy:  run xfce for a few days and grab breezy onthe 13th ? =)11:50
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_iGadget_does anyone know if Breezy will support the ATI mobility radeon express 200 graphics chip?11:51
TachyonI'm not sure my XP user has "info."  I know the password is blank.  The trouble is, I had the setup working previously but had to stop using Ubuntu for a while, and when I started again the network settings weren't the same, so the printer didnt' work. :/11:51
[LethAL] Tachyon, I meant user/pass11:52
TachyonYeah . . . I don't think our XP user has a password.11:52
[LethAL] Tachyon, Make sure the PC's are on the same domain11:52
inc|freakyhow to hold back certain packages like kvirc? because i installed one using checkinstall11:52
inc|freakyi dont even want to get it updated on a dist-upgrade11:52
TachyonLethAL: They're on the same network, I know the IP Address of the XP machine.11:52
[LethAL] Tachyon, domain != network11:53
_iGadget_Tachyon: maybe the word 'Workgroup' makes more sense to you? :)11:53
naliothinc|freaky: see wiki.ubuntu.com for "apt pinning"11:53
[LethAL] Domain != Workgroup eithing11:53
inc|freakynalioth: thx :)11:53
[LethAL] !wiki AptPinning11:53
[LethAL] :/11:54
Tachyon. . . . both computers are in the same Workgroup.  I'm not sure how both would be on the same "domain."11:54
_iGadget_Lethal: well... if you lack a 'real' domain, a workgroup will work just fine ;)11:54
[LethAL] Ya11:54
inc|freakynalioth: nothing found11:54
pluffsykemik, but I sort of need (at) and right click to get anything done :(11:55
naliothinc|freaky: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PinningHowto11:55
_iGadget_tachyon: you probably don't have a domain. A domain requires a domain server, which is very unlikely to have in a small home network11:55
inc|freakynalioth: thx :)11:55
kemikpluffsy:  uh.. you should have those in xfce or icewm or some other wm11:55
[LethAL] Tachyon, make sure your Ubuntu's domain is set to MSHOME... that should help11:55
kemikwell im off11:56
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Tachyon[LethAL] : How would I go about doing that?11:56
[LethAL] pluffsy, copy @11:56
_iGadget_Lethal: blegh :s MSHOME...11:56
GregAscheis there a way to run two clocks in my upper right corner?11:56
[LethAL] Tachyon, System, Administration, Networking, add and click General Windows Networking settings11:56
_iGadget_Does anyone actually keep that terrible name? :p11:56
naliothGregAsche: sure. just add one11:57
GregAschehow?11:57
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kevogodAnyone know if there is a problem with the libgda2-3 package for Breezy through apt? libdga2-3 and libgda2-common are locked and cannot be installed as they are not found.11:57
naliothGregAsche: right click on the panel11:57
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inc|freakynalioth: thx :D11:57
naliothinc|freaky: what for now?11:57
GregAschenalioth: I don't see anything to add a second one11:58
inc|freakynalioth: just because it worked :D11:58
_iGadget_lethal: that's better... but I bet you've changed your workgroup name, right? :)11:58
Tachyon[LethAL] : Done.  The domain name is MSHOME now.11:58
naliothGregAsche: "add to panel" > clock11:58
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[LethAL] Tachyon, try it now... should work hopefully11:58
GregAschenalioth: thanks11:59
Tachyon[LethAL] : No. :/  And I have a feeling it's just because I've no clue what I'm doing. :D11:59
dell500if anoyne cares, i think if you leave a message open in Evolution for long enough, it drains memory really badly, so just fyi11:59
[LethAL] Tachyon, you are trying to add a printer in the printer config dialog, no?11:59
_iGadget_dell500: that's bad... thanks for the tip11:59
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