[12:00] <northern_monk> feralgirl: try the ndiswrapper
[12:00] <leagris> I want no local cups server, just central lan cups server
[12:00] <_willcooke_> jodua_, hmmm.  try a "sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:00] <jodua_> k thanks
[12:00] <feralgirl> leagris: um...how? i'm a first time user
[12:00] <_willcooke_> jodua, Sorry, should have hit delete, not return.  Are you using backports?
[12:01] <shagg> _willcooke_ - still no love.  I'm getting errors now about not being able to get onto the mirrormax backports.  could this be the evil
[12:01] <jodua_> _willcooke_ i have no idea and i dunno how to check?
[12:01] <ZBlach> see, I can iwlist my network, and my iwconfig returns a great connection, but my router doesn't see me, and I can't surf anything
[12:01] <dseomn> jodua_: you would know if you were
[12:01] <jodua_> im quite new...sorry lol
[12:01] <eagleye> ompaul, can you please send me those links again, lost them by accident.. thanks
[12:01] <_willcooke_> shagg, aha! Yeah, you wont be able to fix until they sort the backports server, by which time I expect that the ff package will be fixed.
[12:01] <leagris> feralgirl, thank you for ready my question though. Best wishes for your new linux experiences BTW :)
[12:01] <jodua_> i really dont know ANYTHING about linux...
[12:02] <leagris> reaing
[12:02] <_willcooke_> jodua_, In which case you're not using backports.
[12:02] <eagleye> ompaul, Basically i am sol right, need to do the whole reinstall game again.
[12:02] <Travis|H> is there a keyboard shortcut to bring up a terminal (or a way to easily configure one)
[12:02] <_willcooke_> jodua_, do a "sudo apt-get update" and then when that's done do a "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[12:02] <dseomn> jodua_: you know the name and how to use irc, that's more than many people know
[12:03] <moparfan90> i just install americas army how do i run it? the game?
[12:04] <Antiliis> I have a problem I don't know if it's a bug: I can't type accented chars in console text mode. Any of you can type accented chars in console text mode?
[12:04] <amorph> does anyone can help me woth a sound-problem ? playback from console is perfect but with every gnome or kde-application the playback is interrupted every few seconds
[12:05] <leagris> amorph, I juste got ride of the arts sound wrapper
[12:05] <_willcooke_> amorph, what leagris said! :)
[12:05] <amorph_> leagris: how can i do this ?
[12:05] <leagris> artsd is a pain and sitll has been bulky, slow, delaying sounds :)
[12:06] <leagris> kcontrol, disable sound server in the sound area
[12:06] <jodua_> _willcooke_ i may have screwed something up a while ago when looking off a website...when i do the apt-get upgrade it lists this big thing "W; couldnt stat....."  a whole bunch of things that i changed a while back i cant remember what for....but there was a reason/...when i open snaptics it gives me the same error...i dunno if that has anything to do with it
[12:06] <jodua_> when i open snaptics "WARNING the following problems were found on your system:"
[12:06] <jodua_> and the list of things i changed
[12:06] <MachineScrew> yay acpi works
[12:06] <eagleye> If I got the error 18 message, Does it mean i have to reinstall,
[12:07] <Snopy_> how do i reset the /etc/apt/sources.list ? :D
[12:07] <leagris> because there are dependancies among the libarts so you can't completly get ride of it. Just diable it in kcontrol
[12:07] <jodua_> k i got back on lol
[12:07] <loststryk> anyone help me install sun-j2re ?
[12:07] <jodua_> _willcooke_ what was the last msg you saw me send?
[12:08] <slept> eagleye, where, when ? reinstall what , the whole system, grub, ... ?
[12:08] <eagleye> slept, hi
[12:08] <leagris> ompaul, you appear having quit good ubuntu knowledge. What is the correct ubuntu way of having system global settings for printing and not having to set it up for each users ?
[12:09] <_willcooke_> jodua_, ok, do "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"
[12:09] <jodua_> _willcooke_ thats exactly what i changed a while back
[12:09] <eagleye> slept error 18 message when grub starts,, does this mean i have to reinstall again
[12:09] <jodua_> =/  i scrwed it up didnt i lol
[12:10] <jodua_> do you wanna know what is in there
[12:10] <_willcooke_> jodua_, Yeah, figures.  Let's delete the whole lot and use a known good one (i.e. mine!)
[12:10] <jodua_> hahah k thanks
[12:10] <MachineScrew> any one think KDE is better than GNOME ?
[12:11] <_willcooke_> Whats the name of that place where you can post large text files?
[12:11] <ZBlach> MachineScrew, no
[12:11] <ZBlach> _willcooke_ pastebin.com
[12:11] <MachineScrew> I think KDE has that Windows XP fisher price look
[12:11] <_willcooke_> ta!
[12:11] <jodua_> _willcooke_ ok...its all deleted
[12:11] <ago73> Hi
[12:11] <hyperactivecrond> MachineScrew, that's why you change it
[12:11] <hyperactivecrond> EXPORT IF=kde
[12:11] <MachineScrew> it still sucks
[12:11] <slept> eagleye, you got more than the number , any message ? I don't know the numbers of the grub errors .
[12:11] <MachineScrew> its slow
[12:11] <ali4728> newbie needs help ! I installed Courier along with squirrelmail to work with Postfix but I cant get to Start Courier! any idea?
[12:11] <puff> Whee, I have lame. So far, so good. Is there a tool that will convert oggs to mp3s?
[12:11] <hyperactivecrond> MachineScrew, twm
[12:12] <kevin007> backports down?
[12:12] <MachineScrew> GNOME is faster
[12:12] <Ninjew> MachineScrew: I think that kde is better than gnome
[12:12] <ZBlach> any idea why I can't connect to my router in linux, but there's no problem in windows?
[12:12] <MachineScrew> na Enlightenment
[12:12] <Ninjew> MachineScrew: But its all a matter of personal preference
[12:12] <puff> My mp3 player can't handle ogg; gotta get a better player, but meanwhile.
[12:12] <MachineScrew> Ya
[12:12] <ago73> My shell (any shell) takes forever when I do tab autocompletion. Any idea?
[12:12] <MachineScrew> that is why we use Linux
[12:12] <leagris> hyperactivecrond, the best window manager is the one you use best and the one you ar much confortable with
[12:12] <MachineScrew> because we have a choce
[12:12] <_willcooke_> jodua_, http://pastebin.com/377252
[12:12] <Ninjew> indeed
[12:13] <jodua_> k thanks
[12:13] <eagleye> slept says, something to the fact that it cant recognize my drive because the grub is not near the front of my boot partition
[12:13] <hyperactivecrond> leagris, i know...
[12:13] <slept> eagleye, did you compile a kernel and compiled  the filesystem as a module?
[12:13] <eagleye> slept, im fairly new, thats greek to me..
[12:14] <jodua_> _willcooke_ is there anyway of copy pasting or do i have to type the whole thing?
[12:14] <_willcooke_> jodua_, You are using Hoary, right?!
[12:14] <leagris> hyperactivecrond, I used to like windowmaker on old boxens, kde on more powered ones
[12:14] <jodua_> yea yea lol
[12:14] <jodua_> i woulda said...i do know that much
[12:14] <hyperactivecrond> nice leagris
[12:14] <moparfan90> hello
[12:14] <_willcooke_> jodua_, select the text from postbin, right click, copy, right click in your nano window, paste
[12:14] <Snopy_> I get the error: "E: could not find package mozilla-player" Whats wrong?
[12:15] <jodua_> aswome..thanks alot eh!
[12:15] <moparfan90> i installed americas army and dont know how to play it. what do i do??
[12:15] <slept> eagleye, thats good than you didn't break things in that part
[12:15] <boxerboy29> anyone else get those gnome panel refresh errors when gnome starts?
[12:15] <flipy> Hi!
[12:16] <flipy> I'm trying to set up a web server, and a test fails trying to write in /var/www but the test runs from /var/www/test... where can I change that?
[12:16] <_willcooke_> jodua_, once you've saved that (ctrl-x in nano) do a "sudo apt-get clean"
[12:16] <eagleye> slept, I cant boot my system up, ompaul said its because my bios is not recognizing it right for some reason,
[12:16] <slept> eagleye, there are to things you can check: boot with a live cd and then chroot in your system and reinstall grub / have a look if bios settings for the drive are wrong
[12:16] <_willcooke_> jodua_, then and "sudo apt-get update" and a "sudo apt-get upgrade".  Then you should be back in business
[12:17] <jodua_> great! thanks...
[12:17] <jodua_> i will be back if i get trouble again lol...
[12:17] <slept> eagleye, you can change the settings for the hd in bios just try lba,...
[12:17] <jodua_> _willcooke_ really sorry....i can't get it to paste....how?
[12:18] <jodua_> lol
[12:18] <flipy> ehm where can I set up the permission directories for a web server?
[12:18] <eagleye> slept, I have to download a live cd. Is there a possibility that the live cd will save my install,... Lba is already set
[12:18] <_willcooke_> jodua_, You should be able to right click in the terminal window that has nano open in it and paste
[12:18] <jodua_> doesnt do anything wheni right click
[12:19] <kevin007> I think you can go up to the menu and past
[12:19] <kevin007> or click the middle mouse button
[12:19] <dell500> does open office support graphs?
[12:19] <kevin007> at least in vi that's how it works
[12:19] <_willcooke_> jodua_, try middle click if you've got a middle button
[12:19] <jodua_> k
[12:20] <jodua_> no luck...looking like i gotta type it
[12:20] <jodua_> wont take that long though
[12:20] <slept> eagleye,  try to change lba there is an other option that I cant remember the name of , just try all of them. That should be faster , and if the problem is in the bios the live-cd won't help.
[12:20] <_willcooke_> jodua_, no need.  Run "sudo gedit &"
[12:20] <carrarro> When you donw load an application, how do you install it?
[12:21] <hyperactivecrond> carrarro, a deb package?
[12:21] <eagleye> slept, i will try, be back soon
[12:21] <slept> good luck
[12:21] <mhz> hello
[12:21] <ali4728> Newbie needs Help Courier IMAP won't start! any help?
[12:21] <jodua_> thats all i type "sudo gedit &"
[12:21] <mhz> does anyone know about the official breezy cd cover??
[12:22] <funkyHat> lol. that's a strange question
[12:22] <carrarro> hyperactivecround: let's say Anjuta Development Environment
[12:22] <jodua_> _willcooke_ is that all i type...what you got in quotation?
[12:23] <_willcooke_> jodua_, yeah should load a gui text editor, then you'll need to open "/etc/apt/sources.list"
[12:23] <d2dchat> how come my firefox is all screwed up?
[12:23] <d2dchat> my firefox is missing text
[12:23] <jodua_> _willcooke_ k b/c we got another problem then....lol......
[12:23] <d2dchat> on everything
[12:23] <d2dchat> it opens just fine, but its missing text, anyway to fix it?
[12:23] <_willcooke_> jodua_, whats that
[12:24] <carrarro> When you donwload an application, how do you install it?
[12:24] <jodua_> _willcooke_ it says (gedit:7750): DTK-WARNING **: cannot open display
[12:24] <jodua_> i get that alot
[12:24] <_willcooke_> jodua_, ok "xhost +"
[12:24] <leagris> d2dchat, try moving your ~/.mozilla folter to ~/.mozilla.old then create a new profile
[12:24] <leagris> folder
[12:24] <slept> carrarro, when you download with apt-get/aptitude install things get installed, if you downloaded a deb dpkg -i
[12:24] <_willcooke_> jodua_, then try gedit again
[12:24] <jodua_> _willcooke_  "xhost:  unable to open display"
[12:25] <jodua_> _willcooke_  lol...i might as well through out my laptop lol..feel like it
[12:25] <leagris> d2dchat, if that don't fix the missing text, the global install is screwed. BTW, it most often a screwed profile
[12:25] <shagg> _willcooke_ - found a fix for the Firefox 1.0.7 issue.  see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=367285#post367285.  basically, it's a forced remove of ff and ff-gnome-support and then a -f install.
[12:25] <carrarro> slept: I'm not sure about neither one.
[12:26] <Rickyniano> I have a problem I don't know if it's a bug: I can't type accented chars in console text mode. Any of you can type accented chars in console text mode?
[12:26] <d2dchat> leagris, ok, i did that, restarted firefox.. it opened up the ubuntu startup page but i still cant see any text
[12:26] <_willcooke_> shagg, that'll do it!  The way I did it was dpkg -i --force <ff packages> or something like that
[12:26] <leagris> d2dchat, did you try removing firefox then reinstalling it ?
[12:27] <d2dchat> yes
[12:27] <leagris> folle remove with config files as well ?
[12:27] <_willcooke_> jodua_, Erm.  Oh!
[12:27] <leagris> full ?
[12:27] <jodua_> lol....i can just type it out...
[12:27] <shagg> _willcooke_ - whatever works :)  cheers!
[12:27] <d2dchat> leagris, well i can follow the steps you want to verify a full reinstallation because im not exactly sure what a full reinstallation would require
[12:27] <slept> carrarro, man apt-get and man apt-cache will help you or use synaptic will help, I don't understand what you want to know
[12:28] <_willcooke_> jodua_, You have got gnome running right?
[12:28] <jodua_> yeah
[12:28] <_willcooke_> jodua_, Hmmm.  That's odd. ] 
[12:28] <_willcooke_> jodua_, OK, new plan.....
[12:29] <jodua_> _willcooke_  k....yea i have lots of probs....lol...
[12:29] <jodua_> k new plan?
[12:29] <_willcooke_> jodaua_, Applications -> Accesories -> Text Editor
[12:29] <_willcooke_> click them
[12:30] <eagleye> slept, doesnt work, I see my drive only is recognized to 32 gig, but I have an 80 gig. I take it I need a bios update and i have to reinstall, right..
[12:30] <jodua_> k
[12:30] <absenth> for general desktop use, which file system has better overall performance, ReiserFS, or Ext3
[12:30] <_willcooke_> jodua_, do you get the notepad clone loading?
[12:30] <jodua_> yeah i have that opened now
[12:30] <jodua_> the unsaved document
[12:31] <ccooke> absenth: reiser is faster in some cases. But I've found it to be markedly less reliable than ext2/3
[12:31] <absenth> ccooke: less reliable in what sense?  not trying to nitpick, just trying to learn, and understand more.
[12:31] <_willcooke_> jodua_, right copy and paste that text from pastebin, use the text from the bottom bit so you dont get the line numbers
[12:32] <jodua_> k
[12:32] <slept> eagleye, slow down with your reinstallation panic. If the bios doesn't recognize the drive a reinstall wont help. You can use a floppy for the bios update. When the driv is recognized you don't have to reinstall ...
[12:32] <ccooke> absenth: we have a couple of terabyte storage servers at work - two different ones, with different stuff installed, but both running reiserfs.
[12:33] <ccooke> absenth: every three or four months on average, one of them will develop random filesystem corruption and need to be brought down to maintenance mode for fsck.
[12:33] <jodua_> _willcooke_  k got it...now for saving
[12:33] <eagleye> slept, so my install may come back, after i update the bios?
[12:33] <slept> yes
[12:33] <absenth> ccooke: so they loose data more frequently, or require file system checks more often then Ext2,3.  Now that makes perfect sense.  thank you for the explination.
[12:33] <_willcooke_> I know suse use reiserfs by default for some reason
[12:33] <eagleye> I hope so
[12:33] <ccooke> absenth: now, we've not yet lost anyting important, but...
[12:33] <d2dchat> whats the command to remove a directory and ignore the fact it has files under it
[12:33] <_willcooke_> jodua_, ok, save it as anything you like in your home dir.
[12:34] <jodua_> in my home so like  /home/jodua    right there?
[12:34] <_willcooke_> jodua_, yup
[12:34] <absenth> ccooke: on the laptop I'm less worried about it, as there isn't anything terribly important.  but I could see having to perform maint. on the file system as a PITA
[12:34] <slept> d2dchat, rm -rf
[12:34] <jodua_> _willcooke_  ooooook
[12:34] <ccooke> absenth: generally, you're better off using ext2/3
[12:34] <d2dchat> slept, ty
[12:35] <ccooke> absenth: unless you have an actual use case for speed.
[12:35] <ccooke> absenth: I'd happily use resierfs for a news spool - after all, reiser makes a huge speed increase there and who cares if it fails...
[12:35] <_willcooke_> jodua_, ok from a command prompt thingy do "cat <what ever you called the file>" (with out the "<" ">" 's)
[12:35] <jodua_> yea yea'
[12:35] <jodua_> k
[12:35] <ccooke> but for my root or home partitions? forget it.
[12:35] <absenth> ccooke: between Ext2 and Ext3 the major change is journaling correct?  On the laptop I'd bet Ext2 is a better choice as it would/might hit the drive less frequently.
[12:35] <_willcooke_> jodua_, is there right?  you can see the text?
[12:36] <jodua_> onesec
[12:36] <ccooke> absenth: ext3 is almost always a better choice. It *is* very slightly slower, mind, but it's very, very solid.
[12:36] <jodua_> _willcooke_  im sorry...from a command prompt?   do you mean in console?
[12:36] <ccooke> anyway. Sleep.
[12:37] <_willcooke_> jodua_, yeah, or xterm, or gterm
[12:37] <absenth> ccooke: thanks for the brief, but useful lesson in file systems :)
[12:37] <vbgunz> anyone here know why reading Windows made text files on Ubuntu is no problem yet creating a text file on Ubuntu to be read on Windows collapses?
[12:37] <jodua_> _willcooke_ i got xterm...so i just type cat fedup   I name it fedup
[12:38] <_willcooke_> jodua, :)
[12:38] <sunshine> ./tools/wineinstall
[12:38] <funkyHat> vbgunz, windows and linux use a different end of line character
[12:38] <absenth> ccooke: the best part is I feel like I got a good, solid, technical answer to my question, rather then the typical Fanboy crap I've been reading on a bunch of sites.
[12:38] <jodua_> _willcooke_ lol.....when i type it it says no directory
[12:38] <sunshine> join #WineHQ
[12:38] <ccooke> absenth: Glad I could help :-)
[12:38] <slept> vbgunz, ???
[12:38] <jodua_> cat: fedup: no such directory
[12:38] <funkyHat> vbgunz, and linux can cope with window's one, but not vice-versa
[12:38] <vbgunz> funkyHat: anyway to tell linux to use the Windows EOL?
[12:38] <_willcooke_> jodua_, ok, so you cat it and you see the text from pastebin?  (we're nearly there, but you're right we could have typed it in by now)
[12:39] <_willcooke_> jodua_, do a "cd ~"
[12:39] <vbgunz> slept: hello
[12:39] <cafuego_> !find dos2unix
[12:39] <funkyHat> vbgunz, you should be able to find a program for windows that will cope with the linux format
[12:39] <_willcooke_> jodua_, then and "ls" can you see the file name listed?
[12:39] <jodua_> _willcooke_ lol.... ahhh i am so not getting this ...
[12:39] <jodua_> k i cant even do that cat
[12:40] <vbgunz> yeah I use SciTE on Windows and it handles it well... It is just out of curiosity for those people who receive a text file in which they wish to open in notepad and unsupported editors
[12:40] <_willcooke_> jodua_, relax guy!  Aint no thing
[12:40] <jodua_> when i type it it says "cat: fedup: no such file or directory"
[12:40] <cafuego_> jodua_: then you got the filename wrong.
[12:40] <vbgunz> funkyHat: thanks...
[12:41] <_willcooke_> jodua_, NP, perhaps you saved it somewhere else by mistake
[12:41] <jodua_> _willcooke_   uhhh but when i got to places and home folder...its there
[12:41] <jodua_> ?
[12:41] <funkyHat> ah right. no, i don't think there's a way to get notepad to recognise it :(
[12:42] <_willcooke_> jodua_, ok from xterm do this....      cd ~
[12:42] <cafuego_> jodua_: does the filename perhaps start with a space?
[12:42] <_willcooke_> jodua_, then do..... pwd and tell me what is says
[12:43] <jodua_> _willcooke_  k when i did that it just said /root
[12:43] <brandonz> what programs do you use to do traffic shaping?
[12:43] <jodua_> cafuego nope no space
[12:43] <_willcooke_> jodua_, AHA! OK, do.... cd /home/whatever your user name is, e.g. cd /home/will
[12:44] <jodua_> _willcooke_ well when i put cd /home/jodua/ and put f and tab...it found fedup but when i pressed enter it still says no such file or directory?
[12:45] <_willcooke_> jodua_, s'ok, just "cd /home/jodua"
[12:45] <_willcooke_> jodua_, then "whoami"
[12:45] <_willcooke_> jodua_, what it say?
[12:45] <jodua_> root
[12:46] <_willcooke_> jodua_, right, ok.  so are you now in /home/jodua?
[12:46] <_willcooke_> jodua_, if so "cat fedup"
[12:47] <jodua_> _willcooke_   weooo that brought up something
[12:47] <_willcooke_> jodua_, s'all good!
[12:47] <jodua_> _willcooke_   yea thats what i got from you
[12:47] <jodua_> so now what
[12:48] <_willcooke_> jodua_, OK!  Right now "mv /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.fucked"
[12:48] <netmonk> can someone help me, pls! I upgraded to breezy and now I get the message that X server is not set correctly. how can i fix that?
[12:49] <_willcooke_> jodua_, then "cat fedup > /etc/apt/sources.list"
[12:49] <fr33mind> Hi.  I used the prerelease since sunday... and today, I was asked if I want to install some new updates.  I say yes... and now, x.org doesn't work because of a problem with "sis" driver.  Something to do?
[12:49] <_willcooke_> jodua_, brb
[12:49] <jodua_> _willcooke_   a space between list and /etc right
[12:49] <jodua_> k
[12:49] <fr33mind> I was on Debian before.  I am new with ubuntu.
[12:49] <test34> netmonk, whats the exact error msg ? or you can try to reconfigure it: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:50] <_willcooke_> jodua_, yup
[12:50] <jodua_> _willcooke_   k so i did all that
[12:50] <fr33mind> The error is something like sis driver doesn't match x.org, not sure exactly.  I have only one computer (laptop) and I am on another OS now.
[12:51] <fr33mind> I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:51] <fr33mind> the vga driver work... but in 640x480 :(
[12:51] <_willcooke_> jodua_, right one!  now "apt-get update"
[12:51] <netmonk> test34, it is "I  cannot start the X server (your graphical interface). It is likely that it is not set up correctly. Would you like to view the X server ouput to diagnose the problem?" than i have only Yes as possible option
[12:51] <jodua_> _willcooke_   k wish me luck
[12:53] <test34> netmonk, try to reconfigure it: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:53] <jodua_> _willcooke_  seems to have worked...last line says "E: some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead"
[12:53] <test34> netmonk, whats the output if you say yes
[12:54] <_willcooke_> jodua_, apt-get clean
[12:54] <jodua_> _willcooke_  k
[12:54] <fr33mind> It's about the same problem than netmonk...
[12:55] <_willcooke_> jodua_, then.... apt-get update
[12:55] <jodua_> _willcooke_   same msg's
[12:55] <netmonk> test34, "I will disable this X server for now. Restart GDM when it is configured correctly."
[12:55] <_willcooke_> jodua_, ok, ignore it.... apt-get upgrade
[12:56] <jodua_> _willcooke_  just to make sure...when it says after unpacking 3871kB dish space will be freed y or n....y right
[12:57] <_willcooke_> y = correct
[12:57] <fr33mind> netmonk: try to scroll the log!!  you will have a line begin with: EE:.....
[12:58] <fr33mind> Is there a generic driver better than vga?  I would like 1024x768
[12:58] <logan001101> hello
[12:58] <fr33mind> and I will wait sis driver update..
[12:59] <netmonk>  i tryed the dpkg-reconfigure but it didn't help. when i try apt-get update it can't find the i-net. how can i configure the lan card. i'm sorry for the dum questions...
[12:59] <Travis|H> is there any special tricks to getting the nvidia driver to work on breezy?
[12:59] <jodua_> _willcooke_  its still going...so should i be upgrading on a regular basis?
[12:59] <odd-> Hey.
[01:00] <_willcooke_> jodua_, if it ain't broke don't fix it is my rule (depending on how good your firewall is)
[01:00] <odd-> I have like 120 packages to upgrade. I'm not going to get started just yet.
[01:00] <jodua_> _willcooke_  k....i have lil other probs...like no sound in firefox i downloaded mozilla..sme thing
[01:00] <jodua_> _willcooke_  but is taht a common prob amongst ppl...i've read about it on forums
[01:00] <_willcooke_> jodua_, sound in what? movies, flash?
[01:00] <jodua_> _willcooke_  uhhh in flash
[01:01] <loststryk> can someone explian how i can get gftp to connect to glftpd auth tls required servers ?
[01:01] <lama_> can somebody help me patching xserver-xorg-driver-vesa package?
[01:01] <jodua_> _willcooke_  loh wait!
[01:01] <lexton> is ubuntu supposed to recognize mac os x on install?
[01:01] <lexton> I had to manaully configure yaboot to get mac os x booting to work
[01:02] <odd-> osx* is one word.
[01:02] <_willcooke_> jodua_, sorry, can't help.  very complicated problem.  mine just works!  (except I've disabled  ESD
[01:02] <jodua_> _willcooke_ i dont think i even have flash downloaded....like....going to think im wierd but...anywyas,.i went to peta.org and theres a lil window there for a video and i pressed play and no sound...but on ebaums it wants me to install a flash
[01:02] <lexton> odd - please
[01:02] <_willcooke_> should be fixed in the next reliease
[01:02] <_willcooke_> releas
[01:02] <_willcooke_> release
[01:02] <lexton> _willcooke_, are you answering my questioN?
[01:02] <odd-> Isn't it much harder to configure your DHCP when you have a dial-up connection?
[01:03] <_willcooke_> lexton, sorry now
[01:03] <_willcooke_> no
[01:03] <odd-> I had a dial-up connection a long time ago, I ran windows at the time.
[01:03] <odd-> So ... belh
[01:03] <odd-> bleh aswell.
[01:03] <lama_> loststryk, normally (if you compile from source) you have at the protocol drop-down menu a FTPS option
[01:03] <nalioth> lexton: ubuntu is supposed to recognize osx, yes
[01:03] <lexton> nalioth, it didn't for me
[01:04] <reter> hi
[01:04] <_willcooke_> jodua_, have a look at www.ubuntuguide.org - it should talk you though it
[01:04] <nalioth> lexton: are you using breezy?
[01:04] <fr33mind> Is it possible to downgrade today upgrades ???
[01:04] <reter> how do i get my printer to work on ubuntu?
[01:04] <reter> how do i add my printer to the OS
[01:04] <nalioth> _willcooke_: please dont recommend that site
[01:04] <odd-> I'm using hoary..
[01:04] <jodua_> _willcooke_ k great.....i couldn't even get mplayer to work in here and totem that came with it doent work
[01:04] <lexton> nalioth what are you asking? the verions of ubuntu?
[01:05] <_willcooke_> jodua_, look at installing codecs in the guide
[01:05] <odd-> There are three arent there 4 + kubuntu
[01:05] <odd-> 5 + edubuntu
[01:05] <reter> how do i add my printer to ubuntu?
[01:05] <nalioth> lexton: are you installing hoary or breezy?
[01:05] <_willcooke_> jodua_, got to go, it's late here.  Good luck.  I'll be back tomorrow if you are still stuck
[01:06] <jodua_> _willcooke_ alrighty.....hahah but what if i fawk up again and change something like what you gave me haha lol...
[01:06] <jodua_> _willcooke_ k later thanks ALOT
[01:06] <lexton> nalioth, not sure --> ubuntu-5.10-preview-install-powerpc.iso
[01:06] <lexton> breezy probably
[01:06] <_willcooke_> jodua_, copy /etc/apt/sources.list to /etc/apt/sources.list.knowngood just in case!
[01:06] <reter> is there anyway to add my printer?
[01:06] <nalioth> lexton: breezy. you are lucky it completed the install, last weeks hung on yaboot search for other OS's
[01:07] <lexton> nalioth, uname output is --> Linux ubuntu 2.6.12-8-powerpc #1 Tue Aug 30 23:03:49 BST 2005 ppc GNU/Linux
[01:07] <jodua_> _willcooke_ lol..k...thanks
[01:07] <lexton> nalioth, indeed!
[01:07] <loststryk> can anyone help with gftp for a few minutes ?
[01:07] <lexton> I just started using ubuntu
[01:08] <lexton> it's fast on ppc hardware
[01:08] <lexton> faster then os x
[01:08] <odd-> Sometimes I can't open the shell and shit, just crap issues
[01:09] <lexton> has anyone gotten the dlink dwl-122 wifi usb adaptor working on ubuntu?
[01:09] <nalioth> lexton: just keep in mind that breezy is still in production AND ppc and amd64 arches are behind in everything
[01:09] <lexton> indeed
[01:09] <Nikopol> loststryk, what's your problem?
[01:10] <nalioth> lexton: i have several macs with ubuntu on them
[01:10] <lexton> nalioth, have you gotten kismet running on ppc hardware with ubuntu?
[01:10] <nalioth> lexton: nope
[01:10] <nalioth> lexton: it's doable, tho, i just havent felt the need
[01:10] <mhz> where can I get the official cd cover from???
[01:11] <lexton> I'm going to give it a shot
[01:12] <thehil>  does anyone know if there is a syntax highlighting GUI for umb-scheme?
[01:13] <nalioth> lexton: if you have diffeculties, gimme a shout and i'll put you in contact with another ppc user who has done it
[01:13] <loststryk> Nikopol, i replied, are you recieving ?
[01:13] <Nikopol> loststryk, no
[01:13] <lexton> thanks nalioth
[01:13] <Nikopol> loststryk, seems to be a problem
[01:13] <Nikopol> ok let's do it here
[01:14] <Nikopol> what's the problem loststryk ?
[01:14] <loststryk> gftpd works fine; it's great; apart from one thing; it wont connect to glftpd / drftpd servers that require auth tls authentication; any ideas ?
[01:14] <esac_> anybody using evolution with exchange ? i try to add an account and all it asks for is a username (and doesn't let me hit forward)
[01:14] <iL_padrino> hi
[01:14] <Nikopol> loststryk, sorry not sure there
[01:15] <Nikopol> loststryk, not a problem I've come up against :(
[01:15] <iL_padrino> i need some like http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages
[01:15] <iL_padrino> but for ubuntu
[01:15] <Nikopol> I'll have a look around and see what I can find though loststryk
[01:15] <loststryk> :( whats the correct command to install a .deb file ?
[01:15] <funkyHat> how easy would it be to use an ubuntu live CD as a temporary dhcp server?
[01:15] <iL_padrino> for search the depends of gcc-3.4
[01:16] <iL_padrino> any one can helpme ???
[01:16] <Nikopol> loststryk, sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[01:16] <dad> hi all
[01:16] <dad> its dad again
[01:16] <funkyHat> hi dad
[01:16] <loststryk> ty L(
[01:16] <loststryk> :)
[01:17] <dad> my dsl ruputer broke dwown any suggestions?
[01:17] <Nikopol> loststryk, glad I could at least help u there! ;)
[01:17] <marcin_ant> hi all
[01:17] <funkyHat> get a new one? :D
[01:17] <marcin_ant> got some short and simple questions
[01:17] <dad> lol its 700 buks
[01:18] <Nikopol> loststryk, you have configured the tls file correctly yeah?
[01:18] <marcin_ant> what firewall front-end is preferred for ubuntu/gnome?
[01:18] <dad> my tremble fans malfunctioning too
[01:18] <dad> can someone lend me 900 buks
[01:18] <funkyHat> :| 700$ for a dsl router?
[01:18] <dad> lol im just bein stuopid
[01:19] <dad> this is his kid
[01:19] <dad> lol
[01:19] <loststryk> Nikopol, not sure
[01:19] <loststryk> am still new to ubuntu
[01:19] <dad> lol no msn in linux
[01:19] <arcanistherogue> hey, i have a question about the repositores
[01:19] <dad> booooring
[01:19] <arcanistherogue> *repositories
[01:19] <Nikopol> ok that may be the issue
[01:19] <bimberi> marcin_ant: i've seen firestarter often recommended
[01:19] <loststryk> how can i check ?
[01:19] <Nikopol> loststryk, does the tls auth worth with other servers?
[01:19] <arcanistherogue> i have been getting alot of 404s this past week, many broken packages
[01:20] <Nikopol> if it does then that's probably not the problem
[01:20] <marcin_ant> bimberi, heh I use firestarter and got a little problem with it
[01:20] <loststryk> no gftp wont give me the option to connect sftp etc
[01:20] <brad[] > dad: Eh? I'm on MSN right now
[01:20] <brad[] > k
[01:20] <marcin_ant> I would like to speed up my browser a little so I installed and configured squid
[01:20] <arcanistherogue> is this normal?  I was thinking perhaps because breezy is coming out soon, and support for hoary is winding down.  am i right?  I wasn't here for the upgrade to hoary, i dont know what happens...
[01:20] <marcin_ant> as transparent proxy
[01:21] <Nikopol> mmm
[01:21] <marcin_ant> the problem is that I don't know how to configure iptables to redirect traffic from port 80 to my proxy
[01:21] <marcin_ant> and how to configure iptables to do this on requests from localhost
[01:21] <marcin_ant> and finally how to do this in firestarter scripts
[01:22] <Nikopol> loststryk, really at a loss here
[01:22] <netmonk> is it possible to activate a network profile from the command line?
[01:22] <loststryk> gonna try kasablanca see if that helps
[01:22] <Nikopol> loststryk, tell me what you're trying to do
[01:22] <Nikopol> ok
[01:22] <Nikopol> loststryk, are you trying to use the client to transfer files to another server
[01:22] <loststryk> i know ssl is installed and working, because pftpfxp-mew is wrokign fine for fxp'ing between such auth tls servers
[01:23] <linner> hello everyone
[01:23] <mewthree> please, does someone have links for java jre and w32codecs?
[01:23] <Nikopol> ah so it's solely gftp that's playing up then?
[01:23] <nalioth> arcanistherogue: support for hoary will go on for many months
[01:23] <loststryk> yup
[01:23] <nalioth> mewthree: yes. hoary or breezy?
[01:23] <horetore> hi everyone, is there a guide somewhere to installing ruby properly on ubuntu (breezy)?
[01:23] <arcanistherogue> nalioth: oh... then why am i getting so many errors with the repositories, and will these be fixed when i upgrade to breezy?
[01:24] <nalioth> arcanistherogue: after oct 13, yees
[01:24] <Nikopol> http://modeemi.cs.tut.fi/~jonni/gftpd/ssl_and_tls_gftpd.HOWTO
[01:24] <Nikopol> you tried that loststryk ?
[01:24] <arcanistherogue> nalioth: awesome!! is that when breezy is coming out, and can i order cds of it ?
[01:24] <nalioth> arcanistherogue: if you order cds now, you'll most likely get breezy ones
[01:24] <arcanistherogue> niiice!
[01:26] <mewthree> i need java and W32codecs... does someone have repositories or links for Hoary?
[01:26] <rob_p> marcin_ant:  I've done what you are trying to do with iptables...  If you're interested in the commands, I could probably find them on my old server for you...
[01:26] <nalioth> mewthree: here you go http://www.giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/
[01:26] <Bartimaeus> hey, can anyone tell me how to upgrade to breezy?
[01:26] <loststryk> ok kasablanca works a dream :)
[01:26] <jroes> what's a really conservative setting for X with respect to monitors?  I've tried knoppix on two diff machines with the same monitor, and the monitor just shuts off when X starts
[01:26] <nalioth> Bartimaeus: sure. read the channel /topic
[01:26] <Nikopol> loststryk, stick with that then :D
[01:26] <mewthree> THX u, nalioth
[01:27] <Bartimaeus> nalioth, thank you
[01:27] <IorGie> Bartimaeus: read ubuntuguide.org
[01:27] <arcanistherogue> nalioth: your right, it says 5.10 cds. thanks.  im gonna order like 20 this time :D
[01:27] <Nikopol> loststryk, gftp has been quite unstable in some of the recent releases so stick with what works ;)
[01:27] <nalioth> IorGie: please dont recommend that
[01:27] <IorGie> why?
[01:27] <nalioth> arcanistherogue: convert your friends
[01:28] <arcanistherogue> :D
[01:28] <Nikopol> loststryk, bummer :(
[01:28] <nalioth> ubotu: tell IorGie about ubuntuguide
[01:28] <jroes> anyone know some really conservative hsync and vsync values ?
[01:28] <Nikopol> for the basic setting up of repos ubuntuguide isn't bad, no?
[01:29] <nalioth> Nikopol: if you want a dead box within a month, sure it's fine
[01:29] <Nikopol> nalioth, really? The repository advice is crap ?
[01:30] <Nikopol> what the heck happened with all those DCs?
[01:30] <IorGie> then tell me what is the correct way to upgrade?
[01:30] <nalioth> Nikopol: yes it advises repos that will break your box
[01:30] <linner> ooh netsplit
[01:30] <nalioth> IorGie: read the channel /topic
[01:30] <linner> that was yucky
[01:30] !dmwaters:*! Hi all! One of our rotation servers just split. Looking into the problem now
[01:31] <mewthree> does someone experience X crashes with radeon after properly installing fglrx 8.16.20?
[01:31] <Zeke1> how do u set apt-get to get from another site?
[01:31] <Nikopol> nalioth, ok - I'll watch out to not recommend it then. is it the backports you're referring to or the marillat?
[01:32] <IorGie> or multiverse?
[01:32] <Nikopol> Zeke1, edit your /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:32] <nalioth> Nikopol: marillat will definitely kill your box. backports are not advised for constant use
[01:32] <nalioth> IorGie: universe and multiverse are fine
[01:32] <Nikopol> thanks nalioth - good to know
[01:32] <Zeke1> Nikopol, and where can i find a list of sites
[01:32] <IorGie> ok thanks, i'll keep that in mind when advising others
[01:33] <nalioth> Nikopol: IorGie: you can get the sources like this
[01:33] <nalioth> !sources
[01:33] <ubotu> sources is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[01:34] <Nikopol> nalioth, cool will remember that
[01:34] <Bartimaeus> hey all, is there an easy way to install java on breezy?
[01:34] <Nikopol> Zeke1, you don't have any pertuclar ones in mind?
[01:34] <nalioth> Bartimaeus: http://giannaros.org/tor/bt/
[01:34] <Nikopol> !respositories
[01:34] <ubotu> Not a clue, Nikopol
[01:34] <Nikopol> !respository
[01:34] <ubotu> Nikopol: I give up, what is it?
[01:34] <Bartimaeus> nalioth, thanks
[01:35] <billythekid> Hey, do you guys know how to uninstall ubuntu?
[01:35] <nalioth> Nikopol: /msg ubotu repos
[01:35] <Zeke1> Nikopol, is there a South african one
[01:35] <Nikopol> nalioth, thanks ;)
[01:35] <nalioth> billythekid: yes, a windows install will do nicely
[01:35] <billythekid> theres no way to get my E drive back?
[01:36] <gloria> is this chat line for the world's smartest linux users???  I have it and dont know how to work with it. I need help with it
[01:36] <nalioth> billythekid: we need more info
[01:36] <billythekid> cause I erased a whole bunch of shit on my E drive when I installed Ubuntu.
[01:36] <nalioth> gloria: ask us
[01:36] <billythekid> Now, it doesn't even say that the E drive exists.
[01:36] <nalioth> billythekid: if you erased it, it's gone
[01:36] <billythekid> I didn't erase it, I made a 5 gb partition to install Ubuntu onto.
[01:36] <billythekid> And now it doesn't show any reminance of it.
[01:36] <IorGie> on your E drive?
[01:36] <billythekid> yeah
[01:37] <nalioth> billythekid: did you use partition magic to make your partition?
[01:37] <IorGie> you made a partition on the free space?
[01:37] <billythekid> I used whatever came with the Ubuntu install CD
[01:38] <firis400> salut
[01:38] <billythekid> No, I just made a partition on the E drive
[01:38] <billythekid> Cause I knew there was about 5 gigs free
[01:38] <gloria> is there a web site that I can look up and get an idea what im working with??
[01:38] <nalioth> gloria: wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[01:38] <IorGie> and now you can access it from within ubuntu?
[01:38] <firis400> hy
[01:38] <Bartimaeus> nalioth, is there anything special i need to do to install kava when it's downloaded?
[01:38] <firis400> hy
[01:39] <linner> firis400: hello
[01:39] <billythekid> Access what?
[01:39] <nalioth> Bartimaeus: it's a standard .deb file
[01:39] <firis400> hello
[01:39] <Bartimaeus> nalioth, so do i just run it?
[01:39] <IorGie> your data on the E drive
[01:39] <nalioth> Bartimaeus: are you familiar with installing deb files?
[01:40] <billythekid> No, I can't view anything on the E drive.
[01:40] <Bartimaeus> nalioth, nope
[01:40] <nalioth> Bartimaeus: it's quite easy.
[01:40] <Samhain> how do I install the install-sh?
[01:40] <Samhain> I need it to compile something
[01:40] <firis400> E drive
[01:40] <Bartimaeus> nalioth, how do i do it?
[01:40] <linner> i'm trying to figure out if I should try kubuntu... but i want to know the advantages over GNOME...
[01:40] <IorGie> did you mount the partition you want to access?
[01:40] <billythekid> Don't linner
[01:41] <billythekid> it's a hassle
[01:41] <billythekid> Um..  mount the partition?
[01:41] <firis400> do you speak french
[01:41] <linner> billythekid: why?
[01:41] <billythekid> petit peu
[01:41] <firis400> ok
[01:41] <Nikopol> firis400, oui pourquoi?
[01:41] <billythekid> Nothings compatible with it
[01:41] <adjacent> just me or were there alot of upgrades in breezy today?
[01:42] <linner> wow.....
[01:42] <firis400> parce que moi je parle francai
[01:42] <linner> hello netsplit... again
[01:42] <IorGie> billythekid: http://ubuntuguide.org/#windows
[01:42] <firis400> bye
[01:42] <Bartimaeus> all, does anyone know how to install a .deb file?
[01:42] <Nikopol> firis400, ok - tu cherches de l'aide en francais?
[01:42] <linner> billythekid: what do you mean "nothing" is compatible?
[01:42] <firis400> oui
[01:42] <linner> i thought it was the same build as ubuntu but with the kde desktop
[01:42] <Nikopol> firis400, quel est ton probleme?
[01:42] <lama_> Nikopol: isnt an player name from Immortels film?
[01:42] <Samhain> what is install.sh?
[01:42] <thinman> i can not send mail at local user, but i can send mail to the world...can someone give me a tips how to solve the problem
[01:42] <timmow> Bartimaeus dpkg -i filename.deb
[01:43] <billythekid> i don't know, linner.  don't listen to me
[01:43] <Bartimaeus> timmow, thanks
[01:43] <firis400> non je parle pas bien anglais
[01:43] <linner> billythekid: ok... at least you're honest
[01:43] <Nikopol> lama_, correct though it was comic strips originally by Enki Bilal
[01:43] <thinman> i am using postfix
[01:43] <timmow> Bartimaeus: youw will have to use sudo
[01:43] <nalioth> firis400: en #ubuntu-fr, s'il vous plait
[01:43] <adjacent> !tell me about flash
[01:43] <Nikopol> firis400, pas un probleme :)
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[01:43] <HrdwrBoB> !ops
[01:43] <ubotu> well, ops is Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth
[01:44] <billythekid> who the hell gets their jollies off that?
[01:44] <adjacent> haha. nice
[01:44] <timmow> linner: kubuntu takes over your gnome menus
[01:44] <HrdwrBoB> billythekid: really, really sad people
[01:44] <lama_> Nikopol, l'actrice etait vraiment belle. Miss France de l'annee 1994 si je trompe pas
[01:44] <thoreauputic> firis400: tu peux joindre #ubuntu-fr
[01:44] <nalioth> how unoriginal, too
[01:44] <firis400> do you have msn
[01:44] <nalioth> francais en #ubuntu-fr, s'il vous plait
[01:44] <Nikopol> lama_, qqchose Hardy je pense
[01:44] <linner> thank you
[01:44] <linner> nalioth: i was trying to figure out how to do that
[01:44] <timmow> in fact anyone know what happens if you install kubuntu under a different user name? or is there a way to stop it cluttering up gnome in a KDE way?
[01:44] <Nikopol> oups ok nalioth :)
[01:45] <linner> god lord!  what is going on???  netsplits all over the place
[01:45] <nalioth> timmow: nothing will happen. you have to use sudo to install anything
[01:45] <firis400> do you have msn
[01:45] !dmwaters:*! Hi all! This rotation server seems to still be having problems. We've shut down the ircd on that box for now, and we'll keep checking on it.
[01:45] <Nikopol> firis400, no
[01:45] <firis400> ok
[01:45] <resiak> Nikopol: Ping
[01:46] <Nikopol> resiak, pong
[01:46] <bimberi> linner|STARBUCKS: there was a global notice - "We're experiencing problems with a main rotation server"
[01:46] <firis400> how old are you
[01:46] <esac_> is anybody using eclipse with c# ? if so, what do i install to get c# functionality ?
[01:46] <timmow> nalioth: ok so the menus are global?  I suppose that is obvious really :) Sorry
[01:47] <firis400> how old are you
[01:47] <Nikopol> firis400, neither here nor there - you want French Ubuntu support join ubuntu-fr
[01:47] <linner|STARBUCKS> firis400: this is a ubuntu chat channel... do you have a question about ubuntu?
[01:47] <bob2> firis400: please?
[01:47] <nalioth> firis400: ask your a/s/l stuff in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[01:47] <resiak> Nikopol: Well then
[01:47] <Arkainium> lol
[01:48] <linner|STARBUCKS> bimberi: oh okay.... i didn't see that... thanks!
[01:48] <crimsun> esac_, http://www.improve-technologies.com/alpha/esharp/
[01:48] <firis400> ther is no ubuntu fr
[01:49] <thoreauputic> hey linner|STARBUCKS - how's it all going? Configurations sorted out OK ?
[01:49] <nalioth> linner|STARBUCKS: you musta had your nose in the grand-giraffe-choco-mocha-mint-whiskey-latte
[01:49] <Nikopol> there is
[01:49] <Nikopol> do \/join #ubuntu-fr
[01:49] <linner|STARBUCKS> thoreauputic: absolutely not! :)  That's why I'm on my windows partition right now
[01:49] <Arkainium> is there a way to disable hal in gnome so I don't keep getting that message?
[01:49] <billythekid> man, that link you gave me isn't working, iorgie
[01:49] <linner|STARBUCKS> thoreauputic: but thanks for asking! :)
[01:49] <thoreauputic> linner|STARBUCKS: :(
[01:50] <thoreauputic> heh
[01:50] <firis400> bot how old are you
[01:50] <billythekid> i can't mount the E drive
[01:50] <IorGie> you cant mount a drive, you have to mount the partition
[01:50] <Nikopol> firis400, what do you want from this?
[01:50] <nalioth> firis400: this is a help channel, not a socializing one, please ask your a/s/l stuff in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:50] <firis400> b
[01:50] <linner|STARBUCKS> firis400: seriously ... this is an UBUNTU q/a session only.... please either join another basic channel or take your offtopic socializing to #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:50] <thoreauputic> firis400: #ubuntu-fr
[01:50] <firis400> bye
[01:51] <billythekid> okay, iorgie.  that makes no sense to me.  I don't even know what the partition is called
[01:51] <linner|STARBUCKS> thoreauputic: if I could at least get the clock working properly... then I could use it a little more...
[01:51] <arkanes> !tell arkanes about w32
[01:51] <billythekid> you mean the label of the partition?
[01:51] <IorGie> billythekid: how many partitions are there?
[01:51] <linner|STARBUCKS> thoreauputic: so for now i'm going to have to use the windows partition until the final breezy is released
[01:51] <billythekid> i don't know!
[01:51] <billythekid> is there a way to see them?
[01:51] <billythekid> there should only be 3 partitions
[01:51] <Nikopol> would gparted help in this situation?
[01:51] <billythekid> 1 on the C drive, and 2 on the E drive
[01:52] <nalioth> billythekid: open a terminal and type "sudo fdisk -l"
[01:52] <linner|STARBUCKS> thoreauputic: how's everything on your side/
[01:52] <linner|STARBUCKS> ?
[01:52] <thoreauputic> linner|STARBUCKS: hmm - OK.  sudo invoke-rc.d ntpdate  doesn't reset your clock ?
[01:52] <linner|STARBUCKS> bimberi: thank you for the lilo notice... :)
[01:53] <linner|STARBUCKS> thoreauputic: well, immediately yes... but it doesn't keep it updated
[01:53] <linner|STARBUCKS> :(
[01:53] <thinman> i can not send mail at local user, but i can send mail to the world...can someone give me a tips how to solve the problem
[01:53] <thoreauputic> linner|STARBUCKS: I just discovered "synergy" - cool little prog that lets me use mouse and keyboard on two mavhines at once :D
[01:53] <lama_> can somebody help me patching the xserver-xorg package?
[01:53] <billythekid> fdisk -l [-b SSZ]  [-u]  DISK
[01:53] <billythekid> what would i replace DISK with?
[01:53] <linner|STARBUCKS> thoreauputic: oh how cool is that?
[01:53] <lama_> I have trouble with it.
[01:53] <tritium> hi linner|STARBUCKS
[01:53] <linner|STARBUCKS> thoreauputic: send me the link... I'd like to check it out
[01:53] <linner|STARBUCKS> tritium: hey sweetie :)
[01:53] <thoreauputic> linner|STARBUCKS: it's like magic *grin* !
[01:53] <bimberi> linner|STARBUCKS: no worries! - could you order me one of those grand-giraffe-choco-whateveries please? :)
[01:53] <tritium> :)
[01:53] <linner|STARBUCKS> thoreauputic: LOL
[01:54] <thoreauputic> linner|STARBUCKS: apt-cache search synergy  :)
[01:54] <Nikopol> how does one extract files from a .cab file?
[01:54] <thoreauputic> linner|STARBUCKS: it's in universe
[01:54] <IorGie> billythekid: just "sudo fdisk -l"
[01:54] <linner|STARBUCKS> thoreauputic: oh okay... i'll give it a whirl when I'm back on the ubuntu boot
[01:55] <linner|STARBUCKS> since i have to be wireless right now i'm using windoze
[01:55] <bob2> thinman: you need to define the problem more strictly. for instance, what does your mail log say?
[01:55] <billythekid> i did that, iorgie
[01:55] <thoreauputic> linner|STARBUCKS:  http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/running.html
[01:55] <nalioth> Nikopol: install "cabextract"
[01:55] <linner|STARBUCKS> thoreauputic: oh you rock man
[01:55] <thoreauputic> linner|STARBUCKS: it works with windows too, apparently
[01:55] <Nikopol> nalioth, thank you
[01:55] <firis400> ho speak french
[01:55] <os2mac> linner you got it working?
[01:55] <timmow> lama_ what sort of patch?
[01:55] <Nikopol> firis400, stop it
[01:55] <nalioth> firis400: #ubuntu-fr s'il vous plait
[01:56] <firis400> merde
[01:56] <IorGie> billythekid: if there is just one hardrive you can use /dev/hda for DISK
[01:56] <linner|STARBUCKS> thoreauputic: does it have to be a wireless keyboard?
[01:56] <tritium> firis400: careful
[01:56] <Nikopol> s/he's not looking for help at all
[01:56] <linner|STARBUCKS> os2mac: hello :)  nope... :(
[01:57] <os2mac> sorry.
[01:57] <os2mac> I am back on mine.
[01:57] <linner|STARBUCKS> os2mac: so rather than buggin' everyone for more help... i'm just going to let it sit until the final version comes out and cross my fingers that I get the resolution to these pesky problems
[01:57] <firis400> shut up
[01:57] <linner|STARBUCKS> wow
[01:57] <billythekid> this is fucking shit
[01:57] <billythekid> i just want to erase it
[01:57] <billythekid> gah
[01:57] <os2mac> hmmm
[01:57] <nalioth> ubotu: tell firis400 about conduct
[01:58] <daaku> anyone use vnc to connect to windows? i need to figure out a way to lock the desktop without vnc kicking me out!
[01:58] <os2mac> at work
[01:58] <linner|STARBUCKS> os2mac: what's been going on there?
[01:58] <linner|STARBUCKS> os2mac: are you guys doing a conversion to linux?
[01:59] <mentok> i've used vnc on windows before, but only on the server end with someone else connecting
[01:59] <billythekid> i don't suppose that there's a partitioning program built right into ubuntu?
[01:59] <nalioth> billythekid: yes, parted for console or qt- or g- for a gui
[01:59] <Nikopol> billythekid, there kind of is but all partitioning is risky
[01:59] <linner|STARBUCKS> billythekid: I believe yes there is
[01:59] <IorGie> billythekid: sudo apt-get install gparted
[01:59] <os2mac> ohhh no... I work on a Trusted Solaris 8 network
[01:59] <linner|STARBUCKS> os2mac: now aren't your fortunate!!! seriously
[02:00] <os2mac> not really
[02:00] <linner|STARBUCKS> os2mac: you really are old school :)
[02:00] <billythekid> everythings fucked up now anyways, so it's worth the risk
[02:00] <os2mac> it's kind of a pain in the ass most of the time
[02:00] <Nikopol> billythekid, be careful though
[02:00] <linner|STARBUCKS> os2mac: really?  how come?  it's unix
[02:00] <nalioth> you guys watch your language please
[02:00] <os2mac> because it's Trusted Unix.
[02:00] <os2mac> not the same thing.
[02:00] <IorGie> billythekid: then what are you trying to do? Acces data on your E drive? Or tying to erase it?
[02:00] <billythekid> access
[02:00] <linner|STARBUCKS> os2mac: oh................
[02:01] <timmow> does anyone else have any problems with one million mono processes randomly running and locking up their system? If I could diagnose it better I would...
[02:01] <os2mac> and I have a bunch of really expensive peripherals.
[02:01] <linner|STARBUCKS> os2mac: forgive me... I'm just now reading (actually right this very second) about all the different *nixs
[02:01] <IorGie> just find out whats the partition is called and then mount it,
[02:01] <Nikopol> timmow, mono can do that ;)
[02:01] <linner|STARBUCKS> wb tritium
[02:01] <billythekid> i have no clue how to find out what it's called!
[02:01] <timmow> do I just have to live with it?
[02:01] <tritium> thanks, linner|STARBUCKS
[02:01] <os2mac> do a google for Trusted Solaris.
[02:01] <linner|STARBUCKS> ok
[02:02] <nalioth> billythekid: install gparted and have a look
[02:02] <billythekid> i did
[02:02] <IorGie> how many hard drives do you have
[02:02] <Nikopol> so fire up gparted
[02:02] <billythekid> i'm looking at it right now.  it says i only have one: /dev/hda1
[02:02] <billythekid> which isn't true
[02:02] <Nikopol> only one partition?
[02:02] <linner|STARBUCKS> os2mac: i'm reading a review on it now rather than the manu's specs
[02:02] <billythekid> cause this is installed on my secondary drive
[02:02] <thoreauputic> linner|STARBUCKS: re; 09:56 < linner|STARBUCKS> thoreauputic: does it have to be a wireless keyboard?
[02:02] <thoreauputic> linner|STARBUCKS: answer is "no"
[02:02] <os2mac> hehe
[02:03] <mentok> has anyone tried a iPod color out as far as partitioning goes?
[02:03] <billythekid> it has that then one 'unallocated' partition
[02:03] <IorGie> are you sure you selected the right hard drive in gparted?
[02:03] <billythekid> AH
[02:03] <billythekid> smart guy!
[02:03] <billythekid> yeah i got the right one now
[02:03] <IorGie> ;)
[02:03] <linner|STARBUCKS> os2mac: lord that's expensive...
[02:03] <linner|STARBUCKS> os2mac: a grand per seat?
[02:03] <Nikopol> billythekid, good :D
[02:03] <linner|STARBUCKS> jeez
[02:03] <os2mac> from Sun's site
[02:03] <os2mac> Offering unmatched levels of privacy, increased accountability and reduced risk of security violations - and proven effective in Government, Intelligence and Security agencies and gaining a foothold in Finance, Healthcare, Retail, and other industries - the Trusted Solaris Operating System (OS) provides built-in security on a commercial-grade OS. With the Trusted Solaris OS, users from the desktop to the data center continue to reduce security
[02:03] <os2mac> urity of their networks.
[02:03] <nalioth> os2mac: please, mister dont paste like that
[02:04] <os2mac> I am done...
[02:04] <os2mac> sorry
[02:04] <billythekid> okay, it has the 5 Gig partition, which I created for Ubuntu.  then it has the 14 Gb 'unallocated'
[02:04] <nalioth> os2mac: the URL would be fine, if offtopic
[02:04] <nalioth> billythekid: your E: data is gone
[02:04] <billythekid> shit
[02:04] <os2mac> and yes it's very expensive but not nearly as expensive as the peripherals.
[02:05] <billythekid> the main thing is to get the whole thing visible though, then I'm gonna run a data-recovery program
[02:05] <billythekid> cause my mom is pissed
[02:05] <billythekid> i deleted a bunch of her stuff by accident
[02:05] <nalioth> billythekid: i wish you the best of luck
[02:05] <billythekid> haha thanks
[02:06] <billythekid> hrm. okay. i'm out. thanks for your help
[02:06] <IorGie> if you have windows on the other drive you could give it a try, best luck though
[02:06] <IorGie> nalioth: Seem like a lot of users hit the return button to many times when installing ubuntu and erase their whole drive
[02:07] <nalioth> IorGie: one does need to be careful when setting up for ubuntu
[02:07] <agushi> hey!!
[02:08] <agushi> n e 1 there?
[02:08] <IorGie> true, very true, not only for ubuntu though
[02:08] <Nikopol> There's also a weird quirk in windows with empty space
[02:08] <absenth> IorGie, nalioth, I managed to do that with cAos 2.2  and it wasn't for lack of care.  I just fsck'd up in cfdisk.  :/
[02:08] <Nikopol> if you delete some unused data space it will render XP unbootable
[02:09] <Nikopol> not Ubuntu's fault but some stupid programming on the Redmond front
[02:09] <reter> what are the current backports repositories
[02:09] <absenth> reter I'm informed that backports = the spawn of satan.
[02:10] <reter> i added this   eb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[02:10] <nalioth> reter: for hoary?
[02:10] <reter> but that is no longer working
[02:10] <reter> yes nalioth
[02:10] <nalioth> reter: you are missing a "d"
[02:10] <reter> nalioth, i meant to add the d there... but that site is down or something
[02:10] <reter> is there another one
[02:11] <nalioth> reter: planet.ubuntulinux.org  search for "backport"
[02:11] <gloria> how can I download music from the net
[02:11] <nalioth> gloria: ask that in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[02:11] <Bartimaeus> *
[02:12] <adjacent> hmm. the wiki is saying to use flashplugin-nonfree. does this exist for breezy?
[02:12] <IorGie> gloria: you might want to try aMule
[02:13] <Nikopol> nalioth, actually cabextract wouldn't work but unshield did. :)
[02:13] <vbgunz> how do you connect to a Windows share?
[02:13] <nalioth> Nikopol: ty 4 info
[02:13] <bimberi> vbgunz: Places -> Connect To Server...
[02:14] <loststryk> i need java runtime installed
[02:14] <loststryk> ugh
[02:14] <vbgunz> under network configuration i do not have options to set workgroup...
[02:14] <loststryk> :(
[02:14] <nalioth> loststryk: hoary or breezy?
[02:14] <vbgunz> bimberi:
[02:14] <loststryk> hoary
[02:14] <reter> nalioth, they took the backports off the net
[02:14] <vbgunz> I've been doing that for a while
[02:14] <nalioth> loststryk: http://www.giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/
[02:14] <nalioth> reter: only the illegal ones
[02:14] <Bartimaeus> All, is breezy stable, seeing as it is brand new?
[02:14] <Nikopol> nalioth, unshield works with .cabs  with installshield headers which cabextract can't
[02:14] <vbgunz> trying //server username@server... a bunch of things
[02:14] <adjacent> how do i get firefox flash plugin for breezy?
[02:14] <hajiki> is colony5 just an updated breezy cd?
[02:14] <jsk> hi from where i can download open office themes
[02:15] <nalioth> hajiki: yes
[02:15] <hajiki> cool thanks
[02:15] <hajiki> anyone on breezy, is nautilus constantly crashing on you?
[02:15] <IorGie> Bartimaeus: it's quite stable, however is is still beta no guarantees
[02:15] <Bartimaeus> IorGie, cool, thanks
[02:15] <IorGie> hajiki: nope, not here
[02:15] <timmow> hajiki: nope not for me
[02:15] <wagner> BRAZILIAN!
[02:15] <loststryk> ty nalioth
[02:15] <rob_p> vbgunz:  Was it you that was asking about encrypted filesystems yesterday?
[02:15] <jsk> can anyone help me out
[02:15] <hajiki> IorGie, did you get all the updates that came in today?
[02:15] <loststryk> :)
[02:16] <vbgunz> no but currently the network configuration utility is frigging nuts... it keeps wiping out my wireless settings and defaulting to a lan connection...
[02:16] <vbgunz> rob_p: yeah
[02:16] <IorGie> Bartimaeus: i use dualboot hoary/breezy on my PC just in case.
[02:16] <timmow> vbgunz: its always been nuts :)
[02:16] <vbgunz> rob_p: how you doing
[02:16] <Bartimaeus> IorGie, ill try that
[02:16] <rob_p> vbgunz:  Well, apparently ubuntu has almost everything you need to setup an encrypted block device!
[02:16] <IorGie> hajiki: jup, lot of xserver pakages again
[02:16] <vbgunz> timmow: it could be my fault but I suare it's nuts ;)
[02:16] <Bartimaeus> IorGie, can you have both OS's use the same files?
[02:17] <rob_p> vbgunz:  I'm good.  You?
[02:17] <vbgunz> rob_p: wow, dude you are the man
[02:17] <hajiki> damn wonder whats going on w/ mine then
[02:17] <vbgunz> rob_p: feeling better :)
[02:17] <IorGie> Bartimaeus: i have four partitions: breezy, hoary, /home and swap works like a charm
[02:17] <Bartimaeus> IorGie, ill do that then, thanks a lot!!
[02:17] <vbgunz> rob_p: if I could on the fly encrypt/decrypt all information in my home directory I am good
[02:18] <linlin> How can I make a perticular directory readable by any user at any time, even after new files are added?
[02:18] <rob_p> vbgunz:  I just added a second hard disk and made it a crypto disk.  Now, everything that gets written to it is encrypted.  Anything that gets read from it HAS to be decrypted (which happens on the fly)!
[02:18] <jsk> please help me out
[02:18] <IorGie> Bartimaeus: no problem!
[02:18] <timmow> I always wondered if there were an easy way to list all the packages you have installed for easy upgrades...
[02:18] <vbgunz> rob_p: man dude... in a day ;)
[02:18] <nalioth> jsk: try #openoffice because openoffice themes are kinda out of our purview here
[02:19] <nalioth> jsk: www.deviantart.com
[02:19] <vbgunz> rob_p: I had to go back into Windows and get some work done... it kept me busy
[02:19] <vbgunz> rob_p: you got links?
[02:19] <rob_p> vbgunz:  Here's the guide... it has pretty much everything you need to make it work:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EncryptedFilesystemHowto
[02:19] <vbgunz> rob_p: I'd take anything you got
[02:21] <rob_p> vbgunz:  I think all you have to do is apt-get a helper script which handles the "heavy work" with dm-crypt.  It's called, "cryptsetup" as I recall.
[02:21] <vbgunz> rob_p: thank you... major thanks! I currently have an 80G HD and Ubuntu on a 7.5G partition... I was just thinking earlier about redoing the HD and devoting it entirely to Ubuntu... *because* vmware seems to make Windows XP run better on Ubuntu... maybe I am going nuts ;)
[02:21] <rob_p> vbgunz:  Anyway, just follow the guide... it's pretty much a cake job!  Very easy indeed.  :-)
[02:22] <vbgunz> tomorrow I will dedicate my time to doing it and making it happen... I am really very satisfied with Ubuntu and am prepared to learn... Currently my task at hand is trying to get access to a Windows share... it's obviously not as easy as i thought it would be...
[02:23] <rob_p> vbgunz:  Do you have samba installed?
[02:23] <vbgunz> rob_p: yes I do, I did it so to share files back... but currently my first step is accessing Windows from Ubuntu first... its just not happening for me :(
[02:24] <bpuccio> anyone use an ubuntu box as a HTPC and have any recommendations for a remote?
[02:24] <timmow> vbgunz: are you using smbmount?
[02:24] <bob2> "HTPC"?
[02:24] <mnssk> hi
[02:24] <IorGie> Home Theather PC?
[02:24] <HrdwrBoB> yeah
[02:24] <vbgunz> rob_p: it seems if I hit connect to server and enter the server name as on Windows //server it doesn't work.. if I enter just the name I can see the folder being shared but am told nothing is accessible (error of some sort)
[02:25] <mentok> hi everyone, i'm wondering if anyone knows how to decrypt *.wma files, i have some from some cds that i can't find
[02:25] <vbgunz> rob_p: smbmount?
[02:25] <bpuccio> HTPC = home theater pc
[02:25] <rob_p> vbgunz:  I see.  Well, I was going to suggest double-checking your /etc/samba/smb.conf file for configuration errors but apparently you've had it working in the past?
[02:25] <mnssk> anyone up for some ipw2200 debugging ?
[02:25] <timmow> mentok: mplayer can do that, but I built it from source...
[02:25] <mnssk> need real help!!
[02:25] <mnssk> mentok, mplayer does that!
[02:25] <mentok> mplayer?
[02:26] <vbgunz> no, I just installed samba about 2o minutes ago... then I tried accessing shares... nothing working :(
[02:26] <mentok> where can i read more?
[02:26] <timmow> vbgunz: or mount -t smbfs
[02:26] <mnssk> yeah..search for linux mplayer in google..go to fist link
[02:26] <nalioth> mentok: you'll need to ask elsewhere on that subject please
[02:26] <mnssk> mplayerhq.com/net ..
[02:26] <mentok> ok
[02:26] <mentok> sweet
[02:26] <mentok> thanks :-D
[02:26] <timmow> vbgunz: although that involves the command line...
[02:26] <nalioth> mentok: let us know if it works
[02:26] <vbgunz> this is just one of those steps which will help me move closer to using Ubuntu on a full time basis except for some work which is only accomplishable for and on Windows
[02:26] <mentok> def
[02:26] <vbgunz> rob_p: im cool with the CLI
[02:27] <nalioth> mnssk: mentok has DRMd wma files
[02:27] <mentok> thanks, i appriciate the help
[02:27] <Necrosan> Okay, what can I disable on a laptop (366mhz/128mb ram) to make it feel more responsive?
[02:27] <Necrosan> It feels slower than windows.
[02:27] <vbgunz> i'll try mount -t smbfs
[02:27] <HrdwrBoB> turn it off :/
[02:27] <bob2> Necrosan: use something other than gnome
[02:27] <Alzabar> hi people
[02:27] <mnssk> nalioth, oh..dont know what they mean, but i believe in mplayer :) so much..that it can do anything
[02:27] <esac_> Necrosan: probably because it IS slower than windows :)
[02:27] <Dayylin> Greetings all
[02:27] <esac_> Necrosan: but bob2 is right, try XFCE
[02:27] <mnssk> nalioth, can you help me with ipw2200 of ubuntu ?
[02:27] <Necrosan> Also, I'm using 5.10, and all this usplash hype, I'm not even seeing usplash happen.
[02:27] <HrdwrBoB> Necrosan: get more ram
[02:28] <shekhar> hello i am having major problems with evolution crashing all the time, can someone help?
[02:28] <Necrosan> esac_: Heh, XFCE sux.
[02:28] <Necrosan> HrdwrBoB: Not really a possibility.
[02:28] <Necrosan> I have about $0 to invest in this POS.
[02:28] <bob2> Necrosan: install ubuntu-desktop
[02:28] <vbgunz> rob_p: Sorry, couldn't display all the contents of "Windows Network: server".
[02:28] <Necrosan> bob2: What'll that do?
[02:28] <Necrosan> BTW, is usplash not working because im not using grub?
[02:28] <Alzabar> I have trouble getting ubuntu to detect my network
[02:28] <mnssk> IPW2200
[02:28] <sudonim> shekhar: I also have problems with Evo - do you use it with an Exchange server?
[02:28] <mnssk> help !!
[02:28] <esac_> Necrosan: then fluxbox, fvwm, blackbox, whatever. if you want more responsiveness, dont use gnome or kde
[02:28] <timmow> vbgunz: okay you need to do apt-get install smbfs
[02:28] <Alzabar> on this pc but it work fine on my other one
[02:28] <bob2> Necrosan: if you don't use grub, you're on your own
[02:28] <vbgunz> rob_p: I entered the command you mentioned and then tried connecting to network... thats always the response I get back
[02:29] <shekhar> sudonim:  no
[02:29] <mentok> anyone know where i should go to ask about DRM *.wma?
[02:29] <bob2> mnssk: please don't be irritating
[02:29] <Necrosan> bob2: hah, ubuntu installer forced me to use it
[02:29] <Necrosan> kind of picked it automatically
[02:29] <vbgunz> timmow: what would that do?
[02:29] <Necrosan> Because I'm running / as XFS.
[02:29] <bob2> Necrosan: ubuntu has always defaulted to grub
[02:29] <timmow> install smbmount
[02:29] <Necrosan> Nah
[02:29] <bob2> ok...
[02:29] <mnssk> bob2, sorry!
[02:29] <sudonim> shekhar: I thought it was just because I was using exchange that it was buggy, but maybe the build is no good
[02:29] <esac_> mnssk: what is your full question about ip2200 ?
[02:29] <Necrosan> It defaults to lilo if you choose a decent FS. ;)
[02:29] <rob_p> vbgunz:  I'd make sure your /etc/samba/smb.conf file is configured properly (correct workgroup name, etc.).  Also, don't overlook the security authentication.
[02:29] <shekhar> sudonim:  evolution has been giving me problems in hoary and breezy
[02:29] <timmow> its a nicer way to access windows shares and seems more predictable in my experience
[02:29] <mnssk> esac_,  my wireless has a problem. basically i have installed the latest drivers from ubuntu wiki
[02:30] <Necrosan> How can i zap lilo and throw grub on it?
[02:30] <esac_> Necrosan: don't worry about usplash, its fugly anyway :)
[02:30] <shekhar> Seveas:  are you there? can you advise on how to fix evolution?
[02:30] <vbgunz> rob_p: I will try apt-get install smbfs as suggested by timmow
[02:30] <esac_> mnssk: did you get those drivers to work ?
[02:30] <Necrosan> esac_: heh, I'm seeing really ugly stuff at boot though. This laptop is going to a friend which is why I want to "beautify" it.
[02:30] <reter> how can i add my printer when its not on the its database?
[02:30] <mnssk> esac_, i got them working
[02:30] <bob2> yeah, I love XFS's ability to replace file contents with NULLs on unclean shitdown
[02:30] <rob_p> vbgunz:  Are you using share level or user level auth?
[02:30] <esac_> is there a meta package for xfce4 ?
[02:30] <crimsun> esac_, xfce4
[02:31] <bob2> vbgunz: do note that samba has nothing at all to do with accesing windows share from linux
[02:31] <mnssk> esac_, i have ieee80211 working..and ipw2200 driver working
[02:31] <mnssk> esac_,  when i do this iwlist eth1 scan .. i get networks..
[02:31] <esac_> crimsun: doh, missed that one in the output, sorry
[02:31] <vbgunz> bob2... I just want both machines to talk with one another...
[02:31] <mnssk> esac_, but when i do a dhclient after doing the iwconfig, there is a problem.. it is not able to get me an ip
[02:31] <n00bster> hello
[02:31] <bob2> vbgunz: that's great, but samba is at most half of the problem
[02:31] <mnssk> esac_, i have the error file.
[02:31] <vbgunz> vbgunz: I usually back up my files to that system and that systems backsup to mines
[02:31] <mnssk> esac_, i can show it to you somehow..
[02:31] <n00bster> i installed ubuntu today i encountered some problems.
[02:32] <IorGie> n00bster: tell us
[02:32] <rob_p> vbgunz:  Are you not trying to access your Linux box from Windows?
[02:32] <esac_> mnssk: paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:32] <n00bster> the disk manager wont let me choose my partitions , when i do a brows to them
[02:32] <n00bster> they all seem to be grayed out, and i cannot select them,
[02:32] <n00bster> i changed my GID to admin, but no change, i did not had this problem with the live-cd
[02:32] <vbgunz> yes, I might need to as I do have several PCs in which I share information with... I do not wish to stay stranded with Ubuntu when I know it's possible to share along
[02:33] <rob_p> vbgunz:  Oh, I see now.   Linux to windows share.  My bad!
[02:33] <vbgunz> rob_p:
[02:33] <Pyt3r> good night
[02:33] <vbgunz> rob_p: yeah both ways <->
[02:33] <mnssk> esac_,  surely
[02:33] <reter> anyone know how to add a printer that is not on the database?
[02:33] <vbgunz> I just installed apt-get install smbfs
[02:33] <rob_p> vbgunz:  Then yes, you will want to configure smb.conf correctly.
[02:34] <nalioth> n00bster: you cant work with your disks while they are mounted
[02:34] <nalioth> n00bster: use the livecd to change your disk arrangements
[02:34] <bob2> vbgunz: sudo mount -t smbfs -o ro //192.168.22.98/stuff /mnt/kazoo
[02:34] <vbgunz> rob_p:  I will look into that right away, I believe Minnow mentioned something else, let me backtrack and find it if I can...
[02:34] <bob2> vbgunz: where the ip is the ip of the windows machine and stuff is the sharename
[02:34] <n00bster> but they are not..  i do not have access to them (i think)
[02:35] <timmow> bob2: do you have to specify a username/password?
[02:35] <mnssk> esac_, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2625
[02:35] <n00bster> i'm talking about my other FAT32 partitions
[02:35] <vbgunz> bob2, yeah I was trying something like that before...
[02:35] <vbgunz> one sec
[02:35] <klepas> !info wordpress
[02:35] <mnssk> esac_, i have put the wired (eth0) dhclient, and wireless(eth1) dhclient
[02:35] <ubotu> wordpress: (a semantic personal publishing platform or weblog manager), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 1.2.2-1.1 (hoary), Packaged size: 233 kB, Installed size: 1392 kB
[02:35] <reter> is there another #ubuntu channel?
[02:35] <nalioth> reter: several
[02:36] <reter> tell me where
[02:36] <n00bster> change arrangements? what's that
[02:36] <nalioth> reter: #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:36] <vbgunz> bob_2: I am checking that file now
[02:36] <esac_> mnssk: did you try just "ifdown eth1" and "ifup eth1" ?
[02:37] <mnssk> esac_, i tried that..
[02:37] <bob2> vbgunz: file?
[02:37] <mnssk> esac_, i will try again
[02:37] <bob2> reter: why?
[02:37] <nalioth> n00bster: working with your hard drives requires they be unmounted
[02:37] <bob2> timmow: not if you share things anonymously
[02:37] <mnssk> esac_, ifup eth1 is giving exactly the same messages
[02:37] <esac_> mnssk: you might try editing /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf and taking a look at the lease {} section. it is used to try to force a specific lease if you are having trouble getting one
[02:38] <reter> bob: because i have been asking the same question and no one has an answer
[02:38] <mnssk> esac_, sure. i will try that and let you know.
[02:38] <vbgunz> bob2: I am sorry... I got confused with you and rob_p because I was just getting so much attention (I love ya too) :)... someone mentioned editing the smb.conf  file... I believe rob_p did... I am trying to backttrack as the path/to was written...
[02:38] <reter> bob: if i need support i would like someone to help me
[02:38] <n00bster> wait, perhaps i did not explained my self, I'm on ubuntu now, and i want access to win partitions.
[02:38] <yawgmoth7> When trying to get emu10ki-v0.20a(Soundblaster) i get this "/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-amd64-generic/build directory does not exist. Please edit the file 'config'
[02:38] <yawgmoth7> in this directory and set KERNEL_SOURCE to the correct location of your
[02:38] <yawgmoth7> kernel source.
[02:38] <yawgmoth7> " and this also "make[1] : *** [get_version]  Error 1
[02:38] <yawgmoth7> make[1] : Leaving directory `/home/yawgmoth7/Desktop/Yawgmoth7/emu10k1-v0.20a/scripts'
[02:38] <yawgmoth7> make: *** [opts]  Error 2
[02:38] <mnssk> esac_,  should I add .. the lease section of that ?
[02:38] <yawgmoth7> "
[02:38] <bob2> yawgmoth7: do not paste in here
[02:38] <Bicchi> How can i add an option to grub to boot into the command line, where it asks me for the username and password?
[02:39] <vbgunz> rob_p: thanks bro, I am going to look for that file now... /etc/samba/smb.conf
[02:39] <bob2> vbgunz: you do not need to  edit any samba options to mount a windows share
[02:39] <timmow> n00bster: what win? xp?
[02:39] <esac_> Bicchi: add the word "single" to the end of the kernel line
[02:39] <n00bster> yes
[02:39] <bob2> yawgmoth7: sudo aptitude install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[02:39] <vbgunz> bob2, oh, ok so I just need to enter in that command you mentioned earlier?
[02:39] <ZBlach|Away> hi
[02:39] <vbgunz> bob2: the command with the IPs?
[02:39] <vbgunz> ok, then I am going for it now
[02:39] <timmow> ok do you know what partition it is? /dev/hdaX?
[02:39] <vbgunz> need to bt
[02:39] <bob2> Bicchi: "sudo rm /etc/rc3.d/S*gdm" in your system, then add 3 to the end of the kernel boot command line
[02:40] <ZBlach|Away> I can see my network with iwlist, I've setup everything correctly with iwconfig, now why can't I connect to my network?
[02:40] <bob2> esac_: that drops you into a rot shell without asking for a password
[02:40] <bob2> ZBlach|Away: mac locking? wep? wpa?
[02:40] <vbgunz> bob2, one thing what is the equivalent to ipconfig /all on Ubuntu?
[02:40] <ZBlach|Away> wep
[02:41] <ZBlach|Away> bob2, wep keys match, ndiswrappered correctly
[02:41] <n00bster> would a picture help?
[02:41] <timmow> n00bster: do you know which partition is the windows one?
[02:41] <n00bster> yes i do
[02:41] <bob2> vbgunz: what does that do?
[02:42] <n00bster> hda1 &hda5
[02:42] <bob2> ZBlach|Away: does disabling wep help?
[02:42] <mnssk> esac_,  i will try editing that file. but what exactly is this problem ?
[02:42] <pluffsy> hello
[02:42] <ZBlach|Away> bob2, nope. doesn't seem to do anything
[02:42] <timmow> n00bster: okay you need to open a terminal
[02:42] <n00bster> with you..
[02:42] <yawgmoth7> bob2: It says it cant find the package
[02:42] <vbgunz> ipconfig /all will list all my IP's, public private, submask etc
[02:42] <mnssk> esac_, and any help on what options to be given ? like man/ web or something?
[02:42] <timmow> n00bster: and do sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /media/windows
[02:42] <timmow> say
[02:43] <timmow>  where /media/windows is a directory you want to mount under
[02:43] <rob_p> vbgunz:  ifconfig will show you that
[02:43] <pluffsy> I make my living as a php developer and web designer. I'm a mac user and has before used bbedit but I'm now moving away from commercial software. I've tried gedit and kate and they are okey I guess but not very fancy. What do you think I should learn? Should I try something like emacs and vi? They seem to have a very steep learning curve.
[02:43] <n00bster> woops, i can't find terminal on the menu
[02:43] <vbgunz> rob_p: ifconfig is the ipconfig equiv?
[02:43] <bob2> vbgunz: ip a; ip r
[02:43] <rob_p> vbgunz:  pretty much, yeah.
[02:43] <timmow> its under apps -> Accessories in Breezy
[02:43] <misfit_toy> pluffsy, vi has no curve at all, you'll be at it in a day
[02:43] <n00bster> It's on system tools?
[02:44] <vbgunz> ya, you are the man ;)
[02:44] <vbgunz> thanks ya!
[02:44] <vbgunz> looking into it
[02:44] <timmow> system tools in hoary
[02:44] <bob2> pluffsy: they are steep, but it's what most unix programmers end up using
[02:44] <bob2> yawgmoth7: oh well
[02:44] <yawgmoth7> :\
[02:44] <yawgmoth7> Ok
[02:44] <pluffsy> misfit_toy: which one do you think I should start with? I know it's like a mac/windows war between them. but like bascically what's the pros and cons of vi and emacs? are one easier to use and one has more features?
[02:44] <bob2> yawgmoth7: I take it you're using breezy, but you haven't updated lately?
[02:45] <timmow> emacs and vi are extremely powerful, and once you have learnt them you will love it
[02:45] <pluffsy> bob2: right... hmm.
[02:45] <ZBlach|Away> bob2, tried it with no wep. no dice
[02:45] <marz> Is this the ubuntu help channel?
[02:45] <bob2> marz: indeed
[02:45] <ZBlach|Away> marz, this is the unofficial help channel
[02:45] <timmow> its best to do both the tutorials and see which one you prefer.  For me it was emacs....
[02:45] <pluffsy> are there some very graphical flashy happy tutorial I should check out on emacs/vi?
[02:45] <yawgmoth7> Yeah, im using breezy, and i just ran sudo apt-get update, then i downloaded the updates that came up after that, and there are no new updates uner upgrade or dist-upgrade
[02:45] <misfit_toy> pluffsy, emacs is the grandaddy of all editors, it's filled with stuff, vi is lighter and newer, so it depends on what you want...do you need tons of links to external stuff or just want a fast as hell editor?
[02:45] <vbgunz> haha!
[02:45] <yawgmoth7> So my system is really up-to-date
[02:45] <bob2> pluffsy: no
[02:45] <pluffsy> like not he big ass emacs/vi references I guess there are somewhere.
[02:45] <n00bster> ?
[02:45] <timmow> pluffsy: vimtutor in a terminal will give you a vim tutorial
[02:45] <vbgunz> rob_p: thank you!
[02:46] <marz> oh ok, thanks. Never used IRC before. I seem to be having a problem with my graphics card and ubuntu
[02:46] <vbgunz> bob2: thank you!
[02:46] <bob2> yawgmoth7: time to reboot into the new kernel
[02:46] <FhaeTon> this is the busiest form on the planet
[02:46] <dawynn> Anyone know anything about getting sound working?
[02:46] <rob_p> vbgunz:  You're welcome... what did I do?
[02:46] <timmow> pluffsy: and emacs will tell you how to start a tutorial if you start it
[02:46] <ZBlach|Away> dawynn: alsamixer
[02:46] <vbgunz> I can now see windows shares on the network from Ubuntu...
[02:46] <n00bster> can't find terminal on the system tools menu, is there another way?
[02:46] <bob2> pluffsy: c-h t in emacs starts the tutorial
[02:46] <yawgmoth7> Ok, thanks bob2, you helped me last time also :) so yeah brb
[02:46] <bob2> n00bster: accessories
[02:46] <FhaeTon> converstaion runs 24hrs in here
[02:46] <rob_p> vbgunz:  Cool!
[02:46] <n00bster> oh, got it :)
[02:46] <vbgunz> I think I will see about it a little more and then tomorrow try to learn how to work back with it... am dead beat... worked so hard but promised to learn somethings about Ubuntu today
[02:46] <marz> Is there a way to reconfigure my graphics card in ubuntu, because it's not recognizing my GeForce Ti4200.
[02:47] <FhaeTon> hey bob2
[02:47] <dawynn> Sound works a bit, but not completely.  Works great in certain games (Neverwinter Nights, Deng [doom] ) -- but KsCD -- no sound at all.
[02:47] <pluffsy> bob2: err I'm not even sure what that means. I should press ctrl then h and t while ctrl still down?
[02:47] <vbgunz> this stuff is important to helping me migrate over... i am always using the network shares
[02:47] <vbgunz> thanks!
[02:47] <timmow> pluffsy: ctrl-h then let go.  Then t
[02:47] <ZBlach|Away> why can't I connect to my new router?
[02:47] <dawynn> Audacity doesn't work either.
[02:47] <pluffsy> timmow: alright. thanks.
[02:47] <ZBlach|Away> dawynn: use alsamixer
[02:47] <n00bster> i get error "mount point do not exist".
[02:47] <ZBlach|Away> dawynn: use alsamixer
[02:47] <vbgunz> rob_p: tomorrow I will focus on that link you gave me... if it works I'll send you a home made apple pie from entenmans
[02:48] <crimsun> dawynn, you need to configure kscd to use digital audio extraction instead of analog.
[02:48] <vbgunz> :P
[02:48] <timmow> pluffsy: it explains it better...
[02:48] <rob_p> vbgunz:  Alright dude... take care and good luck!
[02:48] <Ninjew> woot, freenx works and is amazing
[02:48] <bob2> pluffsy: ctrl-h, then t
[02:48] <vbgunz> i'll be around, just want to see what I can do now
[02:48] <jroes> sudo ifup wlan0 says "Ignoring unknown device wlan0=wlan0" -- anyone know why it would do this when iwconfig wlan0 shows it?
[02:48] <ZBlach|Away> any tips on connecting to my wireless router?
[02:48] <x86jimmy> hey, question about ubuntu; if you install in "server" mode, what are you getting/what arn't you getting?
[02:48] <timmow> jroes: kind of
[02:48] <bob2> jroes: that means you didn't setup /etc/network/interfaces
[02:49] <linner|STARBUCKS> ok ya'll I'm going to pack up and get back home
[02:49] <linner|STARBUCKS> I'll see ya'll afterwhile
[02:49] <bob2> ZBlach|Away: sounds like ndiswraper being crap
[02:49] <IorGie> x86jimmy: no gnome to start
[02:49] <pluffsy> well good night and bye. I'll look at emacs.
[02:49] <timmow> good luck
[02:49] <x86jimmy> IorGie: are you getting X11 at all?
[02:49] <pluffsy> err and vi
[02:49] <jroes> ZBlach|Away: I'm following ttp://www.siliconvalleyccie.com/linux-hn/wmp11-linux.htm if it helps
[02:49] <IorGie> nope..
[02:49] <x86jimmy> god
[02:49] <x86jimmy> good*
[02:49] <x86jimmy> k thanks
[02:50] <jroes> of course, kwifimanager shows me connected to it, and iwconfig wlan0 shows me connected
[02:50] <jroes> but I can't resolve IP addresses, and ifconfig won't display it without the -a switch, which tells me it's down
[02:50] <daaku> anyone know of anything like fink (ie apt-get pleasure!) for freebsd? its so painful to compile mozilla by hand
[02:50] <timmow> jroes: its not the right way apparantly, but i always found ifconfig wlan0 up && sudo dhclient wlan0 does the trick
[02:50] <crimsun> wouldn't it be in bsd's ports?
[02:50] <jroes> daaku: this is #ubuntu, but, ports  cd /usr/ports
[02:51] <n00bster> (sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /media/windows) i use FAT32
[02:51] <dawynn> crimsun, thank you -- KsCD finally works!
[02:51] <brownie17> i need help. i pluddeg in aportable floppy disk drive through my serials port and it isn't showing up. how do i mount it and all that?
[02:51] <daaku> crimsun: dont have ports, need something that sort of stays out of the core system (again, painful)
[02:52] <n00bster> and i use FAT32 in the syntax, but same error...
[02:52] <dawynn> crimsun, What was up with that?  How come the digital works, but not the other on KsCD?
[02:52] <timmow> n00bster: replace ntfs with vfat (I think)
[02:52] <jroes> timmow: hrmph, that almost worked except dhclient isn't in knoppix :X
[02:52] <ZBlach|Away> ok, followed that link, checked my compatibilities, and its still not working
[02:52] <jroes> timmow: the iface did come up though!
[02:52] <brownie17> MadpilotPPC, can  you help me? ^^^
[02:52] <n00bster> i'll tray.
[02:53] <Trashcan> hi :)
[02:53] <x86jimmy> another question about server mode, are you installing a barebone system or are you actually getting "server" tools (apache, mysql, etc.)
[02:53] <Trashcan> anyone mind if i ask a driver question? you probably get these a lot ;)
[02:54] <Trashcan> has to do with compiling the ATI drivers from a tut
[02:54] <ZBlach|Away> it says that its connected, but I can't access the internet or the router
[02:54] <HrdwrBoB> don't ask to ask
[02:54] <HrdwrBoB> ask
[02:54] <timmow> jroes: is there a dhcpd command?
[02:54] <Trashcan> right on
[02:54] <crimsun> dawynn, volume it probably muted and/or there's no cable connecting the drive to the sound chipset
[02:54] <crimsun> volume is^
[02:54] <Trashcan> (excuse the short paste)
[02:54] <Trashcan> FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.ko): No such device
[02:54] <quack> i got kucky,everthing works just fine
[02:54] <Trashcan> happens when compiling ATI drivers, following http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=348911
[02:55] <test> newbie here.  I need to find out how to get dev packages.  I tried to install a video driver and am missing gcc package
[02:55] <n00bster> no go! :(
[02:55] <ZBlach|Away> i just want to get my wireless working :'(
[02:55] <Trashcan> :p
[02:55] <Trashcan> (just a guess, im no guru) open terminal: sudo apt-get install gcc
[02:55] <Trashcan> ?
[02:55] <butcherbird> test: sudo apt-get install build-essential?
[02:56] <Trashcan> ahh gg
[02:56] <jroes> timmow: nope :(
[02:56] <n00bster> iisn't it done to be ubuntu instillation?
[02:56] <jroes> timmow: nor dhcpcd
[02:56] <ZBlach|Away> this is killing me. every other computer set up right a way, but this one refuses to work correctly
[02:56] <bob2> x86jimmy: you install whatever daemons you want, yourself
[02:57] <ZBlach|Away> it says its connected, it sees the network, but it won't let me do anything else
[02:57] <timmow> jroes: there is some weird syntax in ifconfig for configuring the Ip address etc manually
[02:57] <x86jimmy> bob2: so, you get to manually select packages?
[02:57] <jroes> timmow: yeah I was reading the man pages, it was tough to figure out though :)
[02:57] <timmow> jroes: I don't know it off hand but the man page might help....
[02:57] <Trashcan> ifconfig eth1 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx?
[02:58] <Trashcan> followed by NETMASK xxx...
[02:58] <Trashcan> or something
[02:58] <jroes> haha
[02:58] <jroes> trashcan is right :)
[02:58] <Trashcan> woot
[02:58] <Trashcan> and ive been using debian/linux for.... 6 hours
[02:58] <jroes> hahaha
[02:58] <n00bster> ??
[02:58] <jroes> are you kidding?
[02:58] <jroes> nice job :)
[02:58] <test> thanks all.  I will try both suggestions out and if I dont get anywhere I will be back:-)
[02:59] <timmow> well I am impressed by that!
[02:59] <Ninjew> its ifconfig <interface> inet <ip address> netmask <netmask> broadcast <broadcast>
[02:59] <yawgmoth7> Had some trouble booting up, but i managed to fix it,  ill try installing the sound drivers now
[02:59] <Ninjew> without the braces, of course
[03:00] <Alzabar> how come alsa dont load with hoary but does in breezy
[03:00] <timmow> I think it is time for bed.  Good night
[03:00] <ZBlach|Away> Alzabar, coz they fixed it in breezy
[03:00] <crimsun> Alzabar, it doesn't?
[03:00] <Trashcan> i had some issues getting g++ set up properly on breezy, so i switched to hoary :'(
[03:01] <Alzabar> yeah I tired both on another machine
[03:01] <esac_> i setup system->preferences->network proxy. however when i try to use add applications, it isn't using the proxy to download files. any ideas ?
[03:01] <n00bster> __ok, i can see that you need sleeping, ill tray tomorrow. )__
[03:01] <crimsun> Alzabar, it works fine on my Hoary boxes.
[03:01] <Alzabar> alsa not even installed in hoary
[03:01] <n00bster> goodbye
[03:01] <crimsun> Alzabar, you're kidding me?
[03:01] <Alzabar> but it was on breezy
[03:01] <Trashcan> so anyone here have any experience with the ATI drivers? :D
[03:01] <Alzabar> Im not
[03:01] <esac_> Trashcan: i am using them just fine, thank you
[03:01] <Trashcan> (on hoary)
[03:01] <jroes> now to figure out how to set a gateway
[03:01] <ZBlach|Away> darnit!< i can see the network. I can access the network on other computers. Why can't I access it through breezy!
[03:01] <jroes> I bet it's ifconfig gateway :)
[03:01] <Trashcan> what card do you have esac?
[03:02] <Alzabar> ati worked great for me on hoary byut not breezy
[03:02] <esac_> Trashcan: ati mobility radeon 9700
[03:02] <Trashcan> ah
[03:02] <Trashcan> <--- very old laptop... ati rage mobility
[03:02] <ZBlach|Away> esac_, Trashcan, same card. please elaborate
[03:02] <Alzabar> hoary no sound but video breezy no video good sound
[03:02] <dawynn> crimsun, <blush> yep -- you're right about not having that CD drive hooked up to the sound card.  That hint helped me at least fix up one of the CD drives correctly.  Thanks much!
[03:03] <Alzabar> I can never get both to work
[03:03] <crimsun> Alzabar, it's part of ubuntu-minimal
[03:03] <Trashcan> *heh heh*
[03:03] <dawynn> exit
[03:03] <marz> does anyone know how to configure a graphics card driver?
[03:03] <ZBlach|Away> so.... no one here has ever had problems with wireless networking?
[03:03] <Alzabar> anyway I am getting hoary since breezy wont see my network here
[03:03] <Trashcan> i tried installing the driver package from synaptic, but fglrxinfo gave the normal erranous message (mesa3d)
[03:04] <yawgmoth7> bob2: I figured out how i can fix my problem, i just need to find /2.6.12-9-amd64-generic/build, because that is the thing that it cant find
[03:04] <vir> what is breezy?
[03:04] <ZBlach|Away> !breezy
[03:04] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[03:04] <funkyHat> vir, the next version of ubuntu
[03:04] <esac_> Trashcan: did you try installing linux-restricted-modules ?
[03:04] <Trashcan> so i followed another tutorial that went through completely removing the drivers and compiling the source from ati
[03:04] <esac_> vir: breezy is the latest version of ubuntu (and it is still in development)
[03:04] <Trashcan> but then it errored
[03:04] <Trashcan> hmm, elaborate esac?
[03:04] <esac_> Trashcan: what error did you get
[03:05] <Trashcan> FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.ko): No such device
[03:05] <bob2> yawgmoth7: ?
[03:05] <esac_> Trashcan: are you running a custom kernel ?
[03:05] <ZBlach|Away> Has no one had problems with their wireless cards??
[03:05] <bob2> yawgmoth7: you need to "sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)"
[03:05] <Trashcan> negatron
[03:05] <bob2> ZBlach|Away: dude, of course people have
[03:05] <bob2> ZBlach|Away: your problem is probably related to ndiswrapper, tho, which no one here can fix
[03:05] <Trashcan> aside from installed packages, this is a clean ubuntu install
[03:05] <esac_> Trashcan: does /dev/agpgart exist ?
[03:06] <ZBlach|Away> bob2, seems like no one has. every solution available is the same, and they're not working for me
[03:06] <lsuactiafner> will breezy be out within 2 weeks?
[03:06] <Alzabar> sometime in oct
[03:06] <testy> I'm back.  No luck on gcc install.  any other ideas?
[03:06] <Trashcan> yeah
[03:06] <bob2> Trashcan: that's the driver saying "I don't think I know how to work any of this hardware"
[03:06] <Trashcan> ahh
[03:06] <bob2> testy: install build-essential
[03:06] <lsuactiafner> !tell lsuactiafner about breezy
[03:06] <Trashcan> ok
[03:06] <bob2> marz: be more specific
[03:06] <Trashcan> thanks bob2
[03:06] <ZBlach|Away> bob2, I was running hoary for almost a month with no ndiswrapper problem
[03:06] <Trashcan> that clears things up pretty well..
[03:06] <bob2> ZBlach|Away: does booting the hoary kernel "fix" it?
[03:06] <yawgmoth7> If ound it bob2, thanks once again >:)
[03:06] <vir> i have no cd of breezy..where i can get the update?
[03:07] <Trashcan> lol
[03:07] <ZBlach|Away> not sure. after my compy died with the breezy upgrade, i've just been using the Breezy 9/9 install
[03:07] <bob2> vir: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradENotes
[03:07] <Trashcan> www.ubuntu.com ?
[03:07] <bob2> ZBlach|Away: you filed bugs about that, right?
[03:07] <marz> bob2: My current graphics card is not recognized properly (it claims it's PCI, and it doesn't know its capabilities, according to Device Manager). How can I change/update drivers?
[03:07] <yawgmoth7> Im using Breezy
[03:07] <bob2> marz: ignore device manager
[03:07] <ZBlach|Away> bob2, can't file bugs -- nothing was working
[03:07] <bob2> marz: what card is it?
[03:07] <butcherbird> vir: if everything is working for you right now I would wait about a month to upgrade
[03:07] <marz> bob2: GeForceTi 4200
[03:08] <vir> ah!! ok
[03:08] <Alzabar> I got no AGP slot
[03:08] <bob2> ZBlach|Away: so use the livecd or whatever
[03:08] <ZBlach|Away> dun have.
[03:08] <bob2> marz: so what is the problem?
[03:08] <bob2> ZBlach|Away: your system apparently works now, report them
[03:08] <ZBlach|Away> this is a diffrerent comp
[03:08] <bob2> ZBlach|Away: if you don't report it, it won't be fixed and you won't be able to use breezy at all
[03:08] <marz> bob2: The graphics card is not recognized, so I am unable to go past 800x600 resolution without getting a messed up screen. In addition, the screen is off-centre. Anyway to fix this?
[03:09] <Alzabar> get a new video card
[03:09] <ZBlach|Away> bob2, how can I report the error. i only have vague details
[03:09] <bob2> marz: if X runs at all, it's plenty recognised
[03:09] <bob2> ZBlach|Away: bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[03:09] <bob2> ZBlach|Away: vague bug reports are unlikely to be of any use, tho
[03:09] <bob2> marz: did you read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto?
[03:10] <marz> bob2: I'll check it out
[03:10] <cafuego_> marz: Tip: AGP = PCI
[03:10] <HrdwrBoB> =~
[03:10] <HrdwrBoB> not =
[03:10] <vir> how to remove konqueror
[03:10] <Trashcan> lol
[03:10] <Trashcan> why hasn't anyone said rtfm yet.... it's just dying to be said
[03:11] <cafuego_> AGP |= PCI
[03:11] <HrdwrBoB> Trashcan: because that's not how we work here
[03:11] <Trashcan> cool
[03:11] <cafuego_> Trashcan: rtfm
[03:11] <Trashcan> well nice to see its a supportive community
[03:11] <Trashcan> :)
[03:11] <funkyHat> XD
[03:11] <HrdwrBoB> funkyHat: why are you saying XD
[03:11] <cafuego_> You order, we deliver.
[03:11] <HrdwrBoB> exx dee, makes no sense
[03:11] <vir> it is possible to update ubuntu in edubuntu?
[03:11] <cafuego_> HrdwrBoB: it's probably some smiley in his client
[03:11] <crimsun> it's like a laughing face, I think.
[03:11] <Trashcan> look at it sideways
[03:12] <funkyHat> XD = :D with screwed up eyes
[03:12] <Trashcan> yeah
[03:12] <HrdwrBoB> cafuego_: I know it's supposed to be a face
[03:12] <funkyHat> :P
[03:12] <ZBlach|Away> ooh! i remember now! different drivers are required. it was an ndiswrapper problem. sorry for wasting your time
[03:12] <HrdwrBoB> I just happen to think it makes you look like a tard
[03:12] <vir> it is possible to update ubuntu in edubuntu?
[03:12] <HrdwrBoB> .. anyway moving on
[03:12] <crimsun> vir, sure
[03:12] <funkyHat> no, it's not a smiley in my client :P. i just think it looks cool :P
[03:12] <vir> how?
[03:12] <Trashcan> nice to see where you stand on the arrogance scale, HrdwrBoB
[03:12] <cafuego_> HrdwrBoB: yes, it's also know as the "windowlicker"
[03:12] <vir> crimsun:how?
[03:12] <crimsun> vir, the same way you update ubuntu
[03:12] <vir> i dnt have the cd..
[03:13] <vir> what is the command for update?
[03:13] <crimsun> vir, but you have a live Internet connection, correct?
[03:13] <funkyHat> i think saying the word tard makes you look like a tard
[03:13] <vir> yes
[03:13] <esac_> any idea why my windows get a lot of ripping and tearing and leaving behind copies of itself while i move the window around ?
[03:13] <cafuego_> bob2: Where do I sign? :-)
[03:13] <bob2> hahaha
[03:13] <crimsun> vir, then just use Synaptic/aptitude/apt-get
[03:13] <vir> i have..dats why m on x-chat
[03:13] <Trashcan> esac: drivers probably
[03:13] <cafuego_> esac_: Paper screen?
[03:13] <Trashcan> my windows tear, but don't leave nasties behind
[03:13] <Trashcan> when i resize
[03:14] <vir> and then?
[03:14] <cafuego_> !test
[03:14] <Narg> so installing the breezy PR that I downloaded a few months ago
[03:14] <Narg> so I'm*
[03:14] <cafuego_> friggin' great
[03:14] <Narg> and it keeps erroring at 6%
[03:14] <Narg> so I go wtf, and then abort and eject cd
[03:15] <vir> crimsun: how about using terminal? like what ive used in updating kubuntu
[03:15] <Narg> and lo and behold, the cold is covered with mold :/
[03:15] <Narg> cd*
[03:15] <Trashcan> haha..
[03:15] <Narg> wow, I'm tired :)
[03:15] <Trashcan> a moldy cd, that's a new one :\
[03:15] <crimsun> vir, sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade
[03:15] <Narg> I never saw that one coming.
[03:15] <Narg> yea...
[03:15] <Trashcan> i'm diggin apt-get..
[03:15] <yawgmoth7> stdio.h is a C module right?
[03:15] <Narg> BOFH excuse 10056: Moldy CD.
[03:16] <Trashcan> first distro i used was rh
[03:16] <cafuego_> C header file, from libc6-dev
[03:16] <Trashcan> it was kinda..... bah
[03:16] <HrdwrBoB> mouldy
[03:16] <bob2> yawgmoth7: no, it's a header file from libc6-dev
[03:16] <yawgmoth7> Oh, ok
[03:16] <Trashcan> bob2 is my hero..
[03:16] <vir> crimsun: its all been done..what i will do next?
[03:16] <crimsun> it's updated then.
[03:16] <Trashcan> first time i installed breezy i went on with the #include <iostream>
[03:16] <Trashcan> and it gave some error
[03:16] <Trashcan> so i was freaking out
[03:17] <Trashcan> tried #include <stdio.h>
[03:17] <Trashcan> and it errored again
[03:17] <vir> where i can see edubuntu?
[03:17] <Trashcan> ...lo and behold, the error had to do with the nonexistant g++
[03:17] <vir> crimsun: its all been done..what i will do next?
[03:17] <vir> where i can see edubuntu?
[03:17] <crimsun> vir, um what do you want to see?
[03:17] <vir> the edubuntu
[03:18] <marz> Under my monitor Section-BeginSection, I have a HorizSync of 28-51 and a VertRefresh of 43-60, is this the problem or is it normal?
[03:19] <crimsun> vir, I think you misunderstand what Edubuntu is.
[03:19] <vir> what is edubuntu?
[03:19] <crimsun> vir, http://www.edubuntu.org/
[03:20] <crimsun> vir, if you're expecting drastic interface changes, you're probably looking in the wrong place
[03:20] <vir> can i say sorry?
[03:20] <fr33mind> Question: When I go in console, I missed 3 or 4 lines at the bottom.
[03:20] <crimsun> none necessary
[03:21] <Trashcan> scroll down? :s
[03:21] <fr33mind> I can't
[03:22] <fr33mind> I have to press enter to scroll up...
[03:22] <Trashcan> oh boy
[03:22] <Trashcan> no scroll wheel?
[03:22] <fr33mind> in CONSOLE
[03:22] <Trashcan> ah
[03:22] <Trashcan> thought you said terminal :)
[03:22] <Trashcan> sorry
[03:22] <Ninjew> fr33mind: Shift pageup and pagedown
[03:23] <fr33mind> CTRL-ALT-F1
[03:23] <yawgmoth7> "make: gcc-3.4: Command not found
[03:23] <yawgmoth7> " Do you think that that means that "make" is trying to use the command "gcc-3.5"?(Since its gcc)
[03:23] <crimsun> or use screen, which has history.
[03:23] <fr33mind> no you don't understand... wait..
[03:23] <bob2> yawgmoth7: that means it's trying to run gcc-3.4
[03:23] <bob2> yawgmoth7: install the gcc-3.4 package
[03:23] <yawgmoth7> Ok
[03:24] <fr33mind> With CTRL-ALT-F1, I am in console.  Now... I can see line 1 to 20 for example but, line 21 to 24 no.   (and it's not a monitor adjustment!)
[03:24] <Trashcan> so you cant see what you are typing?
[03:24] <Ninjew> oh it cuts off the bottom?
[03:24] <yawgmoth7> i love python so much, ive been using it for ayear or so now
[03:24] <fr33mind> That's it.
[03:24] <yawgmoth7> a year*
[03:25] <WinZ> hi there! anybody knows if apache2 can run under xinetd?
[03:25] <Trashcan> i wrote a pisspoor irc client in python a while back... under win32
[03:25] <Trashcan> it was interesting
[03:25] <Trashcan> nifty little language
[03:25] <bob2> WinZ: that would be kinda silly, and no, afaik
[03:25] <yawgmoth7> Awesome, ive written a python IRC bot before................
[03:26] <cafuego_> Ubotu is behind a failed switch and will be back shortly.
[03:26] <DJCobol> hello?
[03:27] <funkyHat> hi DJCobol
[03:27] <DJCobol> is there anyone out there that wouldn't mind helping me out with iptables?
[03:27] <Trashcan> I like this chan.. nice people :)
[03:27] <WinZ> bob2, sorry, but what is "kinda silly"? :)
[03:27] <bob2> DJCobol: best to just ask your question
[03:27] <bob2> WinZ: trying to run apache out of xinetd
[03:27] <bob2> WinZ: why do you want to try?
[03:27] <test> newbie back again.  I now need help on kernel install
[03:28] <bob2> test: you already have a kernel istalled
[03:28] <Trashcan> lol
[03:28] <DJCobol> trying to configure iptables to allow passive and active FTP traffic. so far I can log in, but as soon as I issue a command and it goes to passive, the connection drops
[03:28] <test> it's asking for missing headers when i try to install the video driver
[03:28] <bob2> DJCobol: sure you want a firewall at all?
[03:28] <fr33mind> If I boot in recovry mode, the console screen is ok.
[03:28] <atty> hi. i need help. i did try to install azureus but fail. and inform E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[03:28] <DJCobol> yes
[03:28] <bob2> test: what driver are you trying to install?
[03:28] <test> so what nvidia
[03:29] <mgcross> hi all...got a big problem...
[03:29] <bob2> atty: that's of no use to use, we need the whole error in #flood or pastebin
[03:29] <WinZ> bob2, sorry for my english please :) I'm from Ukraine. I think that this kind of running apache is better because of using a few memory
[03:29] <atty> i did update & upgrade but still face same problem
[03:29] <bob2> test: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:29] <bob2> WinZ: that's unlikely to be the case
[03:29] <Alzabar> brb people
[03:29] <Ninjew> fr33mind: Do you have some type of framebuffer setup?
[03:29] <conte> hello !! ^^
[03:29] <mgcross> installed new nvidia driver....now open office segfaults...really makes the box usless
[03:29] <fr33mind> Ninjew: maybe... don't know
[03:30] <mgcross> any ideas how I can track down the problem?
[03:30] <bob2> mgcross: get rid of it and use the ubuntu version
[03:30] <mgcross> hmmm....
[03:30] <cafuego_> WinZ: No, run apache stand-alone with 1 server process and maybe 1 waiting server process.
[03:30] <Ninjew> fr33mind: Does ubuntu give you the splash screen when you turn on?
[03:30] <test> thanks bob2
[03:30] <mgcross> bob2: is that going to fix the problem?
[03:30] <cafuego_> WinZ: And unlaod any apache modules you don't need. (See /etc/apache/modules.conf)
[03:30] <yawgmoth7> I installed the gcc-3.4 package, but it still reads the gcc-4.0 package, i was just going to remove the 4.0 package then reinstall it, but it said that it would have to unintsall a crap-load of other programs with it(I was using Synaptic, might be differnet with apt-get), and when i type "gcc --version" it says gcc 4.0.2, so i know that it is still using the 4.0.2 package
[03:30] <fr33mind> Ninjew: yes and it's cool ;)
[03:30] <bob2> mgcross: who knows, but it's a start to debug it
[03:30] <WinZ> cafuego_, bob2, thanks a lot! i have a small home server
[03:31] <mgcross> bob2: I'm just making a guess that that was what caused this mess..
[03:31] <bob2> yawgmoth7: wtf
[03:31] <Ninjew> fr33mind: Can you tell if that is cut off as well? Or does it look normal
[03:31] <WinZ> bob2, mm.. how about vsftpd under xinetd? do you think it's too unlikely?
[03:31] <mgcross> bob2: true, true
[03:31] <fr33mind> Ninjew: yes it is.
[03:31] <bob2> yawgmoth7: gcc 4.0 is the default on ubuntu. do not change that.
[03:31] <bob2> yawgmoth7: if something wants gcc 3.4, it should be running gcc-3.4
[03:31] <fr33mind> Ninjew: some text at the bottom is cut off.
[03:31] <bob2> yawgmoth7: what on earth are yo ucompiling?
[03:31] <cafuego_> bob2: Not for the kernel.
[03:31] <mgcross> bob2: how the heck do I rid myself of it?
[03:31] <bob2> mgcross: yay for installing things from outside ubuntu
[03:31] <bob2> mgcross: perhaps #nvidia knows
[03:32] <mgcross> bob2: yah, I know, I know....the Ubuntu driver is dead old tho...lol
[03:32] <cafuego_> mgcross; strace the installer, see what files it writes, remove them by hand.
[03:32] <bob2> mgcross: not really
[03:32] <yawgmoth7> Im just tryin to compile the sound card drivers......ive done it before no problem
[03:32] <foampiec1> hello
[03:32] <Ninjew> fr33mind: hmm
[03:32] <bob2> yawgmoth7: you need to tell it to use gcc-3.4
[03:32] <mgcross> hmm
[03:32] <yawgmoth7> Somewhere in a config file, right?
[03:33] <mgcross> strace? cmd line tool? Not familiar with it...
[03:33] <foampiec1> might you be able to tell me how to remove a package and its dependencies without breaking other dependencies? ie remove unessessary packages
[03:33] <cafuego_> foampiec1: Run 'deborphan' to find out what isn't needed.
[03:33] <foampiec1> cafuego_: ok thanks
[03:33] <Ninjew> fr33mind: Do you know how to edit the kernel boot parameters?
[03:33] <thoreauputic> foampiec1: you'll need to install it
[03:34] <fr33mind> Ninjew: if you explain... maybe ;)
[03:34] <foampiec1> thanks
[03:34] <reter> how can i create a root password?
[03:34] <mgcross> cafuego_: strace?
[03:34] <bob2> yawgmoth7: no, it may involve makefile hacking
[03:34] <yawgmoth7> >:\
[03:34] <Ninjew> fr33mind: OK try this: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:34] <yawgmoth7> Ok
[03:34] <cafuego_> reter: via 'passwd' but it's probably better to just sue 'sudo'.
[03:34] <thoreauputic> reter: sudo passwd root (if you really must)
[03:35] <Ninjew> fr33mind: Is this a x86 or an amd64 install?
[03:35] <thoreauputic> reter: it's quite unnecessary though
[03:35] <fr33mind> x86
[03:35] <Trashcan> so given the way ubuntu set up the password dealy
[03:35] <reter> the printer app ask for it
[03:35] <Trashcan> if someone gets your normal user password
[03:35] <Trashcan> they can login as root
[03:35] <Trashcan> aye?
[03:35] <Trashcan> sudo -s
[03:35] <foampiec1> mplayer doesnt depend on gstreamer stuff?
[03:35] <reter> thoreauputic, would you happen to know how to add a printer when its not on database?
[03:35] <Trashcan> (at least get a root terminal)
[03:36] <fr33mind> Ninjew: I am in the file.
[03:36] <Ninjew> fr33mind: ok find the section at the bottom that says title  Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.12-something-i386
[03:36] <fr33mind> (I knew this file ;)
[03:36] <remyforbes777> anyone have any luck installing amd 64
[03:36] <Ninjew> fr33mind: the one thats not the recovery mode
[03:36] <thoreauputic> reter: my last attempt to add a non-supported printer was a nightmare, so no, sorry
[03:36] <yawgmoth7> If you mean installing Ubuntu on AMD64.....then yes
[03:36] <Ninjew> fr33mind: and change the word 'splash' in kernel /boot/vmlinuz-blahblah root=blah ro quiet to 'nosplash'
[03:36] <remyforbes777> yeas
[03:36] <remyforbes777> yes
[03:36] <fr33mind> Ninjew: by the way.. can I delete old kernel I don't need anymore ?
[03:37] <Ninjew> fr33mind: If you never boot to it, deleting that will remove its entry in your bootloader
[03:37] <yawgmoth7> Yeah, ive installed it, and i have a AMD 64
[03:37] <Ninjew> fr33mind: It won't actually delete the kernel image
[03:37] <gm78> Hi all. I currently have Ubuntu installed on my mom's Sony Vaio (P4 2.8 GHz, 512 MB RAM, Intel Graphics Card) and lately, when she tries to log out, Gnome just sits there still running for a long time. So she hits CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE and then it goes to a terminal instead of restarting X. Anyone seen this happen before or know a way to fix it?
[03:37] <remyforbes777> Athlon or Turion
[03:37] <fr33mind> Ninjew: Just delete line refer to what I don't want?
[03:37] <thoreauputic> reter: are you sure it isn't supported? Sometimes trying another driver works
[03:37] <yawgmoth7> Athlon
[03:37] <oxez> how can I make an app to use gcc-3 instead of gcc-4?
[03:37] <Ninjew> fr33mind: The entire section, starting at "title" and ending at "boot"
[03:37] <oxez> (to compile)
[03:37] <remyforbes777> cant get x to run on my AMD turion
[03:37] <remyforbes777> freezes at login
[03:37] <reter> thoreauputic, is there a way to add the database?
[03:37] <Ninjew> fr33mind: again, that won't actually delete the kernel image though
[03:37] <robotgeek> oxez: export cc=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4
[03:37] <Ninjew> fr33mind: It'll just remove it from the boot list
[03:37] <thoreauputic> reter: database?
[03:38] <robotgeek> oxez: then to be sure, go cc -v
[03:38] <fr33mind> Ninjew: What I though
[03:38] <oxez> robotgeek: ok, and once I'm done I reset it to /usr/bin/gcc-4 ?
[03:38] <Ninjew> fr33mind: anyway, try changing the 'splash' to 'nosplash', and rebooting. That will disable the cool looking bootsplah for now, but it should also disable the framebuffer that it requires to do that
[03:38] <test> Newbie back in again:  Error, unable to find kernel source tree for currently running kernel....
[03:38] <robotgeek> oxez: it's will go away when you close the term
[03:38] <fr33mind> Ninjew: ok now... I will loose the splash :(  no way to keep splash and have a correct console?
[03:38] <test> it's questioning source files missing
[03:39] <Ninjew> fr33mind: well, we are just testing to see if thats the problem
[03:39] <fr33mind> Ninjew: ok.
[03:39] <Ninjew> fr33mind: if it is, you will probably have to add some special video mode info to that kernel line
[03:39] <reter> thoreauputic, well you know that the printer options suppose to have hundreds of printer models listed. mine has only a handful. how can one add the others?
[03:39] <oxez> robotgeek: cc -v still shows gcc-4.0
[03:39] <sproingie> export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4
[03:39] <fr33mind> Ninjew: Ok I try and reboot... give me 2-3 minutes.
[03:39] <sproingie> case counts
[03:39] <Ninjew> fr33mind: alright
[03:39] <oxez> oh, thanks sproingie
[03:39] <thoreauputic> reter: that's odd - is this a standard install of Ubuntu?
[03:40] <robotgeek> sproingie: thanks
[03:40] <oxez> sproingie: it still shows 4.0 :O
[03:40] <rj_> I have a question - I have a dual boot setup, with windows xp and ubuntu hoary, I had to re-install windows and windows overwrote my MBR and now I can't boot into grub and use ubuntu, whats the easiest way to re-install the grub bootloader?
[03:40] <thoreauputic> reter: apt-cache search cups | less
[03:40] <sproingie> oxez: it won't affect the cc command.  it will affect autoconf and well-written makefiles
[03:40] <oxez> sproingie: alright, thanks again
[03:41] <robotgeek> sproingie: shud it be export $CC ?
[03:41] <cafuego_> No.
[03:41] <sproingie> oxez: i don't recommend overriding the default cc globally.  the system makes some assumptions about what gcc it's compiled with, changing those is unwise
[03:41] <fr33mind> I'll be back.
[03:41] <oxez> sproingie: bmp-wma compiled with gcc-3, I had some errors with gcc-4
[03:41] <satafterh> anyone have issues with limewire freezeing
[03:41] <sproingie> oxez: just get used to invoking the specific version you want when you need that version.  anything with a proper makefile will use the value of CC
[03:41] <test> this is a brand new install and i think srcs must be missing.  any ideas on how to correct?
[03:42] <rj_> anyone know how to reinstall the grub mbr?
[03:42] <cafuego_> test: install them?
[03:42] <atty> anybody here use qcad?
[03:43] <sproingie> oxez: if you're really determined, you can always change the gcc symbolic link to point to whatever version you want, or put your own symlink in ~/bin
[03:43] <jrattner1> When trying to start the game "America's Army" i get the following error: Couldn't set video mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual
[03:43] <jrattner1> any ideas?
[03:43] <yawgmoth7> sproingie: i dont think that export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4
[03:43] <yawgmoth7>  works..............because i just tried that, i was needing to do the same thing as oxez..use gcc-3.
[03:43] <test> I thought I did but driver installation gives that kernel source tree error message and the install fails
[03:43] <yawgmoth7> gcc-3.4*
[03:43] <joetheodd> In my opinion, most C programs should be indented six feet downward and covered with dirt.
[03:43] <sproingie> oxez: it's an unhealthy habit ... you can get screwed in subtle ways by doing that
[03:44] <oxez> sproingie: okay
[03:44] <cafuego> test: What driver?
[03:44] <test> video driver
[03:44] <mgcross> anyone know how I can remove nvidia drivers installed with the nvidia installer?
[03:44] <test> nvidia board
[03:44] <cafuego> You shouldn't be compiling that. It's packaged.
[03:44] <cafuego> test: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.x
[03:44] <oxez> sproingie: I sent a bug report to the other of the plugin, hope this will get fixed :O
[03:45] <cafuego> And even IF you're compiling it, you shouldn't be using the fsource from the nvidia site.
[03:45] <test> I'm not compliling.  just going through the install on a new distro
[03:45] <cafuego> test: then the kernel source isn't required.
[03:46] <fr33mind> Ninjew: that's work.
[03:46] <test> well it's not working
[03:46] <cafuego> test; Do not run the file you downloaded from nvidia.
[03:46] <cafuego> test: What kernel you running? (paste the output from uname -r)
[03:47] <test> just a sec
[03:47] <test> 2.6.12-8-amd64-generic
[03:47] <crimsun> you'll want 2.6.12-9
[03:48] <cafuego> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-8-amd64-generic
[03:48] <crimsun> fixes a few amd64-related issues.
[03:48] <test> awesome
[03:48] <test> i'll try that now
[03:48] <test> thanks!
[03:48] <cafuego> And linux-image-2.6.12-9-amd64-k8 as well actually
[03:48] <test> ok
[03:48] <cafuego> test: Not ethat 2.6.12-9- has a different version restricted modules too.
[03:48] <ripgut> hey guys i need urgent help
[03:49] <Ninjew> fr33mind: It Worked?
[03:49] <ripgut> im in kde but my panels are gone all i have is my wallpaper
[03:49] <fr33mind> ninjew: yep
[03:49] <ripgut> al i can do is right lick and bring up the terminal
[03:49] <Ninjew> fr33mind: alright, what video card do you have? Also, what kind of monitor?
[03:49] <ripgut> how do i restore my pnaels
[03:50] <poningru> dreamie
[03:50] <ripgut> chavo
[03:50] <chavo> hello
[03:50] <fr33mind> Ninjew: laptop... sis video lcd 1024x768  and external viewsonic lcd 1024x768 too
[03:50] <ripgut> dude i so need your help
[03:50] <chavo> what's up?
[03:50] <Ninjew> fr33mind: oh ok, i suspected it was a laptop -- do you have both internal and external monitors plugged in?
[03:50] <ripgut> i need to restore my desktop panels in kde there missing....
[03:51] <fr33mind> Ninjew: yes
[03:51] <Ninjew> fr33mind: out of curiosity, have you tried it without the external monitor plugged in?
[03:51] <fr33mind> Ninjew: no
[03:51] <Ninjew> fr33mind: hm
[03:51] <root__> help, im on IRSSI, i cannot logon as root on gnome ; first install (and boot) of hoary, i can log in root only in terminal  and gnome says an error about my line 19 of /etc/sudoers
[03:51] <ripgut> what do i type in terminal to restore my desktop panels
[03:52] <chavo> ripgut, you mean the taskbar?
[03:52] <Ninjew> fr33mind: well, try this:
[03:52] <Ninjew> fr33mind: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst again
[03:52] <chavo> ripgut, kicker
[03:52] <cafuego> root__: Root is disabled on ubuntu. Fix your sudoers file and login as user.
[03:52] <ripgut> yes
[03:52] <ltf> anybody want to help me do something crazy with wget?
[03:52] <root__> cafeugo, i know i cannot LOG on as root, but i cannot even sudo ,,hence the problem
[03:52] <ripgut> kicker?
[03:53] <Narg> cafuego: from my looking at /etc/sudoers, you just add to admin group, not change the file. Am I on crack?
[03:53] <robotgeek> ltf: man wget
[03:53] <chavo> that's the name of the program
[03:53] <root__> cafeugo, and i'm here to know HOW to fix my sudoers file
[03:53] <cafuego> root__: Boot into recovery mode.
[03:53] <ltf> robotgeek, i sure did
[03:53] <cafuego> Narg: indeed
[03:53] <Ninjew> fr33mind: go bck to the line that you edited to do nosplash
[03:53] <ltf> else i wouldn't be in here
[03:53] <robotgeek> ltf: then, what's the issue!
[03:53] <root__> what recovcery will change..?
[03:53] <ripgut> my taksbars are missing? :(
[03:53] <vbgunz> bob2: I've successfully mapped all network shares and Ubuntu has access to all of them... I just ate and relaxed a bit and am back on... Can you help define to me how to share a folder with a Windows PC? I created a folder in my home directory and shared it to SMB *but* not sure how Windows can get access to it... Please help
[03:53] <ltf> i want to recure through many pages, looking for files matching a certain extension
[03:53] <cafuego> root__: It will give you a working shell with root permissions.
[03:53] <ripgut> taskbars*
[03:54] <ltf> i don't know the names of the pages, it just needs to match the ext.
[03:54] <Ninjew> fr33mind: and try adding: video=vesafb:ywrap,1024x768-16@60 to that
[03:54] <cafuego> ETA on ubotu: 30 minutes
[03:54] <ripgut> okay... noone wants to help
[03:54] <Ninjew> fr33mind: or actually, add video=vesafb:ywrap,mtrr,1024x768-16@60
[03:54] <fr33mind> Ninjew: Yes my lord.
[03:54] <bob2> vbgunz: I've only used samba itself for that, I don't know how gnome does it
[03:54] <cafuego> ripgut: You got help, just failed to do anything with it.
[03:55] <cafuego> ripgut: Check if kicker is running via 'ps'. if not, start it.
[03:55] <Ninjew> fr33mind: leave it at nosplash, however
[03:55] <cafuego> If it is, kill it, then start it.
[03:55] <chavo> ripgut, run kicker from the konsole and see what happens
[03:55] <ripgut> how do i restore them?
[03:55] <Ninjew> fr33mind: try rebooting with that in, see if that works at all /cuts things off
[03:55] <ripgut> command not found
[03:55] <vbgunz> bob2: ok, no biggie, I was planning on tackling this tomorrow but I'll dabble with it :D Thanks!
[03:56] <ripgut> i just type "kicker" right?
[03:56] <Ninjew> fr33mind: oo wait
[03:56] <chavo> yeah
[03:56] <Ninjew> fr33mind:  one more thing
[03:56] <Ninjew> fr33mind: try also adding vga=791 to that line as well
[03:56] <linner|HOME> what would ya'll suggest... that I wipe the partition with ubuntu and do a fresh install with breezy or just wait until the release date for the updates?
[03:56] <ripgut> im installing kicker right now, duh, i had to have it first....
[03:56] <ripgut> stupid me
[03:57] <ripgut> there it goes!
[03:57] <cafuego> ripgut: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:57] <ripgut> thanks
[03:57] <Ninjew> fr33mind: so you want to add 'vga=791 video=vesafb:ywrap,mtrr,1024x768-16@60' to that line
[03:57] <Ninjew> fr33mind: give that a shot
[03:57] <ripgut> thanks guys!
[03:59] <felix_> I need help ; i jsut installed hoary, and i have a login in sudo problem ; it have to do with my  etc/sudoers file, but i dont know how to edit it.  i am in recovery mode now
[04:00] <felix_> someone ?
[04:00] <bimberi> felix_: visudo
[04:01] <fr33mind> ninjew: I keep nosplash?
[04:01] <satafterh> is breezy all right to upgraade with now
[04:02] <felix_> i know how to use pico or nano ; but i dont know WHAT actually to change in the file ; plus, you have to be root to edit it, and THATS my problem, i can only log in as root in terminal   outside of gnome
[04:02] <felix_> please..
[04:02] <robotgeek> felix_: you must only use visudo to edit the file
[04:02] <bimberi> felix_: use the arrow keys to move to the bottom of the file
[04:03] <felix_> felix@renouveau:~$ visudo /etc/sudoers
[04:03] <felix_> usage: visudo [-c]  [-f sudoers]  [-q]  [-s]  [-V] 
[04:03] <felix_> thats all what it does
[04:03] <bob2> felix_: what on earth did you do to it?
[04:03] <felix_> 'installed ubuntu'
[04:03] <felix_> its the first boot  ...
[04:03] <bob2> and sudo doesn't work?
[04:03] <felix_> nope
[04:04] <remyforbes777> if I copy the xorg config file from knoppix to my ubuntu 64 will that possibly work
[04:04] <felix_> >>> sudoers file: syntax error, line 19 <<<
[04:04] <felix_> sudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers near line 19
[04:04] <bob2> felix_: what's your username?
[04:04] <cafuego> So fix it.
[04:04] <felix_> felix
[04:04] <cafuego> remyforbes777: Probably, yes.
[04:04] <robotgeek> !tell felix_  about sudo
[04:04] <remyforbes777> ok
[04:04] <bob2> felix_: boot into recovery mode, then show us what line 19 is
[04:05] <felix_> I AM in recovery mode : /
[04:05] <jhenn> Cannot initialize device
[04:05] <jhenn> You do not have the proper permissions to write to /dev/floppy/0 or /dev/fd0, formatting will not be possible.
[04:05] <jhenn> Contact your system administrator about getting write permissions.
[04:05] <remyforbes777> because x will not work with my  ubuntu 64 but it does in knoppix
[04:05] <cafuego> felix_: Then please paste line 19 here.
[04:05] <jhenn> did you see my paste people?
[04:06] <jhenn> floppy formatter won't format this floppy
[04:06] <felix_> cafeugo, you dont really read what i say here eh ? i cannot acess the file in gnome, it have to be in console
[04:06] <cafuego> jhenn: Prefix your command with 'sudo'.
[04:06] <bob2> felix_: what does that have to do with IRC?
[04:06] <bob2> felix_: anyway, open it in a text editor and look at line 19
[04:06] <cafuego> felix_: if you're in recovery mode, you're NOT in gnome.
[04:06] <felix_> ??
[04:07] <jhenn> cafuego: do you know to call gnome floppy formatter from cli?
[04:07] <remyforbes777> recorvery mode is the same as command prompt
[04:07] <cafuego> jhenn: sudo apt-get install mtools; mformat a:
[04:07] <cafuego> jhenn: Or check which group owns /dev/fd0 and add yourself to that group.
[04:07] <felix_> well i choosed 'session de secours'      at the gnome log screen, translated, it looks a lot like a recovery mode..
[04:07] <ksmurf> how are all tonight?
[04:08] <cafuego> felix_: No, recovery mode is in the LILO or GRUB menu.
[04:08] <vbgunz> ksmurf: hello
[04:08] <cafuego> felix_: That will boot into a CLI root shell
[04:08] <jhenn> felix_: is your first name jhef?
[04:08] <felix_> looks like i dont have this menu
[04:08] <felix_> arr
[04:08] <felix_> ??
[04:08] <cafuego> felix_: Hold down a key when booting, then the menu (or list) will come.
[04:08] <ksmurf> vbgunz :>)
[04:08] <jhenn> felix_: do you go to hcc?
[04:09] <felix_> anyway as for opening the file here i cant. just wont.
[04:09] <jhenn> cafuego: zenlunatic@ubuntu:~$ sudo mformat a:
[04:09] <jhenn> mformat: Can't open /dev/fd0: No such file or directory
[04:09] <ZBlach|Away> hi
[04:09] <cafuego> jhenn: Load the floppy driver.
[04:10] <felix_> i CAN log in as root in a console, so whats the difference between recovery and root in terminal ?
[04:10] <jhenn> cafuego: you mean the kernel module?
[04:10] <ZBlach|Away> I have a speedstream 6520 router/dsl modem that I cannot connect to using linux. any one else have the same problem/suggestions
[04:10] <ZBlach|Away> ?
[04:10] <cafuego> jhenn: yep
[04:10] <jhenn> cafuego: its loaded
[04:10] <SpudDogg> hello
[04:11] <jhenn> cafuego: i can access floppy through nautilus
[04:11] <cafuego> jhenn: Hmm, odd. can you run /mkfs.fat' on it?
[04:11] <SpudDogg> I have a pretty dumb question...Is it possible that Ubuntu is blocking ports even though they're open in my router settings?
[04:12] <felix_> bob2 , i know my line 19 by heart ;    root         ALL=(ALL) ALL          (and i added under it    ' felix         ALL=(ALL) ALL
[04:12] <cafuego> SpudDogg: No. Ubuntu isn't listening on any ports by default and does not have a firewall enabled byd efault.
[04:12] <bob2> wtf
[04:12] <cafuego> felix_: You may have messed up tab or spacing. Just check to make sure.
[04:12] <bob2> felix_: why did you add that line at all?
[04:13] <felix_> bob2, cause i was unable to sudo with felix, it was saying the user ws not in the sudoers
[04:13] <bob2> ZBlach|Away: if the real problem is that it's a wireless AP that you cannot access while using ndiswrapper, you need to mention that in your question
[04:13] <bob2> felix_: the root user is not enabled on ubuntu, anyway
[04:13] <felix_> i KNOW
[04:13] <felix_> felix is  user
[04:13] <ZBlach|Away> alright, I cannot access my wireless AP using ndiswrapper
[04:14] <felix_> but i cannot like, run updates or anything
[04:14] <cafuego> felix_: You normally add a user to the group 'admin' to enable sudo for them.
[04:14] <bob2> felix_: so why do you have a sudo line for root?
[04:14] <bob2> felix_: your user doesn't need to be in sudoers, anyway
[04:14] <ZBlach|Away> I was able to using my old router, but we've had to change net providers
[04:14] <cafuego> felix_: Did you cross-upgrade from Debian to Ubuntu?
[04:14] <felix_> well, it wasnt working, and its still not working
[04:14] <felix_> no.
[04:14] <bob2> felix_: are you in the admin group?
[04:14] <felix_> simple first install on a printed cd.
[04:15] <cafuego> felix_: How many users did you create on the system?
[04:15] <felix_> i will have to reboot to see that since no root acess at all here
[04:15] <felix_> 1
[04:15] <bob2> felix_: you don't need root access to chec kthat
[04:15] <cafuego> felix_: Ok. Does your sudoers file mention '%admin' at all?
[04:15] <felix_> when i typed  adduser felix admin , it said  'admin group didnt exist'
[04:16] <cafuego> felix_: Are you sure you're on Ubuntu?
[04:16] <bob2> felix_: what does "dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n1" print out?
[04:16] <alzabar> hi
[04:16] <felix_> cafeugo, ahh that is, i am on WinME ! ...
[04:16] <sproingie> it's adm, not admin
[04:16] <cafuego> And if so, which version? 4.10? 5.04? 5.10?
[04:16] <felix_> stupid question.
[04:16] <cafuego> sproingie: No, it's 'admin'.
[04:16] <alzabar> I just installed ubuntu and my x failed to start
[04:16] <NoUse> felix_ being a smart ass is a GREAT way to get people to help you
[04:17] <bob2> sproingie: adm is a different group
[04:17] <sproingie> chuck@tetsuo:~$ cat /etc/group | grep adm
[04:17] <sproingie> adm:x:4:chuck
[04:17] <sproingie> lpadmin:x:107:chuck
[04:17] <alzabar> I have no idea what to do
[04:17] <sproingie> amd that's it
[04:17] <bob2> sproingie: you didn't install hoary
[04:17] <sproingie> and yeah i'm pretty sure i'm on ubuntu
[04:17] <felix_> NoUIse, i DID said it was a fresh install of a printed CD , and he ask me if i am sur if its ubuntu
[04:17] <bob2> also, please don't be a smart arse for no reason
[04:17] <bob2> felix_: can you show me what that printed out?
[04:17] <sproingie> bob2: actually i did.  however, i used the expert install, which sets up a normal root user
[04:17] <bob2> as fun as you whinging is
[04:17] <NoUse> felix_ from what I've seen thats a valid quetsion
[04:17] <bob2> sproingie: right
[04:17] <cafuego> felix_: I salso asked WHICH version. Can you answer or shall I stop trying to help?
[04:18] <felix_> bob2, ii  libc6          2.3.2.ds1-20ub GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone
[04:18] <cafuego> !info libc6 hoary
[04:18] <cafuego> shite
[04:18] <ZBlach|Away> -_-
[04:18] <bob2> felix_: and you did a default install?
[04:18] <WinZ> !info apache2 breezy
[04:18] <felix_> hoary
[04:18] <felix_> 5.04
[04:18] <cafuego> the bot is dead
[04:18] <bob2> felix_: if you did an expert install, you will be thwapped
[04:18] <felix_> bob2m, yeas
[04:18] <WinZ> mm
[04:19] <felix_> default install
[04:19] <remyforbes777> is the xorg config file located in the etc directory
[04:19] <cafuego> remyforbes777:  /etc/X11
[04:20] <remyforbes777> cafuego: thanks
[04:20] <felix_> bob2 , it SHOULD be something simple, since i installed, logged in, and i was just not able to udpate (didnt accept password)         then i add a line in /etc/sudoers , thats all
[04:21] <cafuego> felix_: At the bottom of the sudoers file, there should be a line starting with '%admin'. Your usera ccount should have been automatically added to the admin group, thus enabling sudo for you.
[04:21] <cafuego> felix_: Where did you obtain that cd?
[04:22] <felix_> its an official printed cd from ubuntu.org, i installed my ubuntu with the same kind of cd...and all worked well (this is not my comp)
[04:22] <bluefoxicy> can hoary livecd auto-build an fstab?
[04:22] <cafuego> felix_: Any chance you could try and do a fresh install?
[04:22] <bluefoxicy> it does'nt see fat32 /dev/hda1 and let me point-click-mount
[04:22] <felix_> yep..thinking about this..
[04:22] <felix_> i'll reinstall :(
[04:22] <cafuego> Coz it sounds to me like part of the installer just didn't run.
[04:23] <bob2> felix_: you're sure sudo wouldn't take your user password?
[04:23] <charlie_> I want to get to irc.freenode.net
[04:23] <cafuego> charlie_: That's where you are now.
[04:23] <alzabar> what the command to reconfigure x
[04:23] <felix_> felix@renouveau:~$ sudo -s
[04:23] <felix_> >>> sudoers file: syntax error, line 19 <<<
[04:23] <cafuego> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:23] <charlie_> ok thanks
[04:23] <alzabar> thanks
[04:23] <bob2> felix_: no, before you touched it
[04:23] <charlie_> join #ltsp
[04:24] <felix_> before, it was saying that user was not in the sudoers group
[04:24] <cafuego> felix_: You mentioned running 'adduser'...
[04:25] <cafuego> felix_: Did you not create your account using the installer dialog?
[04:25] <felix_> yeas cafeugo
[04:26] <felix_> i did a adduser felix adm     after i saw i was unable to sudo,       and an adduser felix admin   (it said admin group didnt exist)
[04:26] <remyforbes777> i thought it was root not admin
[04:26] <felix_> not the same thing.
[04:27] <bob2> remyforbes777: no
[04:27] <cafuego> felix_: The 'admin' group should have been created in the install process. So something failed to run, which emans one or more parts of the system are not set up correctly.
[04:27] <felix_> cafeugo, eh
[04:27] <cafuego> felix_: So i think your best bet is to do a new install.
[04:27] <felix_> well looks like a reinstall
[04:27] <bob2> felix_: you really saw no errors during the install?
[04:27] <Xorlev> IPv6: Anyone have experience with the tspc tunneling client (for freenet6 (hexago))?
[04:27] <felix_> except one or two about fonts  nope
[04:27] <cafuego> Reinstalling is probably going to be quciker then trying to track down and fix the original problem.
[04:28] <bob2> Xorlev: best to just ask your question
[04:28] <felix_> so, i'll come back... ;)
[04:28] <felix_> thx
[04:28] <cafuego> Xorlev: sudo apt-get install freenet6; vi /etc/tspc.conf ?
[04:29] <Xorlev> bob2: It appears when I run the tspc tunneling client (either compiled off their site, or from packages) it runs fine at first, then a few hours later it crashes or something, preventing sudo actions, really hiking load avgs, IPv6 traffic stops, and ultimately leads to me rebooting.
[04:30] <procrastinationn> yo
[04:30] <Xorlev> I have to a hard reboot as well because most commands stop working and programs don't stop.
[04:30] <bob2> Xorlev: read dmesg
[04:30] <procrastinationn> how do i get mps's to play ?
[04:30] <procrastinationn> mp3's
[04:31] <cafuego> !codecs
[04:31] <cafuego> arrgh
[04:31] <procrastinationn> lol
[04:31] <cafuego> procrastinationn: http://wiki.ubuntu.com?RestrictedFormats
[04:31] <cafuego> s/?/\//
[04:31] <cafuego> I should chuck a backup bot on my desktop box
[04:31] <Xorlev> bob2: I haven't run it in hours, but would it be in /var/log/syslog?
[04:32] <ssdd534> what is ubuntus mirror http address?
[04:32] <Pluk> weird installed breezy and now im missing my us_intl keymap
[04:33] <cafuego> http://XX.archive.ubuntu.com/
[04:33] <cafuego> where XX is your local country code
[04:33] <Xorlev> bob2: This might be it...I remember this from my console a few days ago when I was trying to reboot. Sep 28 07:37:37 Munimentum kernel: unregister_netdevice: waiting for tun to become free. Usage count = 1 Message repeats over and over
[04:33] <Samhain`> is there a fix for ubuntu only showing 640x480?
[04:34] <TokenBad> I didn't know blender for linux was so popular
[04:34] <Xorlev> Samhain`: I run at 1280x1024...it could be your graphics driver.
[04:34] <gpd> Is there a breezy-extras repository anywhere yet? (or libdvdcss.deb)
[04:34] <Samhain`> I just installed the nvidia driver
[04:34] <Samhain`> and it's working
[04:34] <nomasteryoda|w> good
[04:34] <Samhain`> but now I only get 640x480
[04:34] <nomasteryoda|w> Samhain`, you can configure that
[04:34] <Xorlev> Are the resolutions set correctly in xorg.conf?
[04:34] <bob2> Xorlev: reading dmesg when the problem first starts would be enlightening, I'd suspect the kernel oopsed
[04:34] <Samhain`> they may not be
[04:35] <nomasteryoda|w> Samhain`, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[04:35] <alzabar> exit
[04:35] <nomasteryoda|w> it will write a new one
[04:35] <alzabar> quit
[04:35] <b3nw> is it possible to have xfce running twice via vnc sessions? it works without a hitch for the 1st session but won't start for a 2nd
[04:35] <alzabar> woops
[04:35] <nomasteryoda|w> lol
[04:35] <nomasteryoda|w> b3nw, it should
[04:35] <Erron> hihi
[04:35] <nomasteryoda|w> most x will
[04:36] <b3nw> dies on me
[04:36] <b3nw> when I start the 2nd vncserver
[04:36] <b3nw> xfce4 won't start
[04:37] <Xorlev> Reading my kern.log and syslog, it appears the problem started at 1:39am, no other messages other than the same which repeats over and over.
[04:38] <b3nw> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2626
[04:38] <b3nw> is the paste
[04:38] <Erron> how can I remove var exports
[04:39] <fr33mind> Ninjew: that's work very well and behond!
[04:39] <fr33mind> Ninjew: The console has a better hires!!! :)  very cool.  But... even with the "splash" parameter, I loose the splash.
[04:40] <Ninjew> fr33mind: Oh really
[04:40] <Ninjew> fr33mind: p.s. sorry that I had to run
[04:40] <Ninjew> fr33mind: hmm, I'm not sure about how to get the splash back
[04:40] <fr33mind> Ninjew: ok thanks :)
[04:41] <Ninjew> fr33mind: I'm not exactly sure how ubuntu does its bootsplash in particular
[04:41] <Lars_G> Seveas: Are you celebrating?
[04:41] <fr33mind> Question: Where do evolution save account list ?  (it's not in .evolution)
[04:41] <Lars_G> fr33mind: Might be somewhere under .gnome
[04:42] <Ninjew> fr33mind: It will probably work if you drop back down to a lower resolution, but then you lose the hires console
[04:42] <Ninjew> fr33mind: Ask around, someone might know how to get bootsplash working with a 1024x768 framebuffer
[04:42] <fr33mind> ok...
[04:43] <fr33mind> how to get bootsplash working with a 1024x768 framebuffer ?  ;)
[04:43] <fr33mind> Lars_G: I take a look..
[04:43] <funkyHat> Ninjew, fr33mind, usplash is know not to work with framebuffer modes other than the default at the moment
[04:43] <fr33mind> ok.
[04:43] <Ninjew> funkyHat: Well in that case then
[04:43] <funkyHat> *known
[04:44] <Ninjew> funkyHat: What resolution does the default fb run at? 800x600?
[04:44] <funkyHat> looks like 600x400 to me
[04:44] <cafuego> ~hi
[04:44] <ubotu_> cafuego: I haven't a clue
[04:44] <cafuego> oh dear :-)
[04:44] <cafuego> !codecs
[04:44] <cafuego> ~codecs
[04:44] <ubotu_> [codecs]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[04:44] <cafuego> cool.
[04:45] <Remmelas> all, i have a question that i've seen discussed on the forums, but can find no answer to.  I can rip a cd at 19x+ with grip(paranoia disabled), but with sound juicer(paranoia disabled) i get at best 0.2x
[04:45] <funkyHat> eh
[04:45] <funkyHat> ~help
[04:45] <funkyHat> !help
[04:45] <funkyHat> ahahar
[04:48] <SirWraith> so i'm gonna put ubuntu on my powerbook
[04:48] <SirWraith> anyone have an idea how much space i would wanna allocate?
[04:49] <Remmelas> I've used 3 gigs so far
[04:49] <Lars_G> SirWraith: Enjoy it.
[04:49] <Remmelas> just installed this morning, so, allocate at least 3 gigs =)
[04:49] <Lars_G> SirWraith: I get mine in 20 days
[04:50] <funkyHat> SirWraith, 10GB will be plenty
[04:50] <whyameye> looking for help getting my modem to work...
[04:51] <Ninjew> this is so wierd: large file downloads just stall out, and I can't figure out why
[04:52] <Remmelas> nevermind all bout the cd ripping question, figured out that it's due to sound juicer, if i don't pipe to lame, it's fast too
[04:52] <procrastinationn> i need mp3 playback
[04:52] <procrastinationn> damage
[04:53] <SirWraith> alright, thanks guys
[04:53] <procrastinationn> hey how can i play xbox live on linux
[04:53] <funkyHat> procrastinationn,
[04:53] <funkyHat> !mp3
[04:53] <funkyHat> oops
[04:53] <funkyHat> ~mp3
[04:53] <ubotu_> it has been said that mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[04:54] <procrastinationn> im just a damn newbie
[04:54] <funkyHat> click on the link that ubotu_ just said
[04:54] <funkyHat> and follow the instructions on that page
[04:54] <procrastinationn> lol
[04:55] <procrastinationn> what about xbox and ftping and tunnelling
[04:55] <Toma-> anyone know of a way to speed up java?
[04:55] <Toma-> without getting new hardware
[04:56] <funkyHat> i'm not sure what you mean by your xbox question...
[04:56] <funkyHat> you own an xbox right?
[04:56] <funkyHat> and it's connected to the internet through your computer, which is running linux?
[04:56] <procrastinationn> yeah
[04:56] <funkyHat> how did you set that up? using firestarter?
[04:56] <procrastinationn> i know how to do it on windows
[04:57] <funkyHat> or haven't you set up any way of sharing your internet connection yet?
[04:57] <procrastinationn> i dont think so
[04:57] <funkyHat> ok
[04:57] <felix_> Bob2, cafeugo , first boot after my new REinstall now ... I still cant sudo ; felix is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[04:57] <funkyHat> install the program called 'firestarter' from synaptic
[04:57] <procrastinationn> xboxconnect  and ftp flash
[04:58] <funkyHat> felix_, your name should not be on the sudoers file
[04:58] <felix_> ??
[04:58] <procrastinationn> i dont know how to use synaptic
[04:58] <butcherbird> member of admin group?
[04:58] <funkyHat> the group 'admin' which you should be a member of, should be in the sudoers file
[04:58] <gefbals> hello..
[04:59] <funkyHat> procrastinationn, click system > administration > synaptic package manager
[04:59] <gefbals> mirramax backports are not available...and i cannot install j2re pagkage..where can i get one?
[04:59] <funkyHat> (enter your password)
[04:59] <procrastinationn> ok
[04:59] <felix_> i'm just telling here whats going wrong on my screen,  if you can help ; go for it, but i just reinstalled cause of this problem, i need something concrete please :, /
[04:59] <funkyHat> click in the right pane, and type firestarter
[05:00] <procrastinationn> hold on
[05:00] <procrastinationn> lol
[05:00] <Carpe_Libertatem> Is there anyway to make a bootable versionf of Ubuntu on a portable hard disk? I wasn to be able to boot from it on any computer that supports USB boots.
[05:00] <funkyHat> ok
[05:00] <Carpe_Libertatem> Want to be*
[05:00] <gefbals> mirramax backports are not available...and i cannot install j2re pagkage..where can i get one?
[05:01] <D1> whats been going on with backports lately?
[05:01] <D1> very little updates.
[05:01] <locomorto> gefbals: in breezy
[05:01] <locomorto> gefbals:  its very stable atm
[05:01] <funkyHat> Carpe_Libertatem, doing a 'server' install, and then doing 'apt-get install ubuntu-live' would probably be a good start
[05:01] <procrastinationn> dude im lost
[05:01] <funkyHat> it would need some fiddling though
[05:02] <procrastinationn> i opened the manager
[05:02] <gefbals> locomorto: im using hoary..is ok...to put breezy repo?
[05:02] <bob2> felix_: that sounds very much like a non-default install
[05:02] <funkyHat> procrastinationn, do you have the synaptic package manager window open now?
[05:02] <procrastinationn> yeah
[05:02] <bob2> felix_: either expert or server
[05:02] <felix_> bob2, i assure you, it is, default :|
[05:02] <Carpe_Libertatem> hmm
[05:02] <funkyHat> ok, have you found the pacakge called 'firestarter'?
[05:02] <locomorto> gefbals: just replace hoary with breezy in /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:02] <locomorto> gefbals: And remove backports/extras
[05:02] <felix_> bob2,  its the official install Cd from ubuntu.org , and the same cd installed on my pc whitout problem
[05:02] <locomorto> gefbals: There not needed in breezy
[05:03] <procrastinationn> dude ill brb gotta go to taco bell
[05:03] <Carpe_Libertatem> ..
[05:03] <locomorto> gefbals: Then do a apt-get update
[05:04] <locomorto> gefbals: apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:05] <gefbals> locomorto : deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted is this correct?
[05:05] <locomorto> gefbals: Dont have backports or extra
[05:05] <gefbals> locomorto: ic.. let me try..:)
[05:05] <locomorto> gefbals: If you have extra that is
[05:06] <funkyHat> bye guys
[05:06] <remyforbes777> fontconfig error: cannot load default config file
[05:06] <boxerboy29> i have a wuestion a lil kinda off topic but is ubuntu and libranet same command wise?
[05:06] <remyforbes777> anyone seen this
[05:07] <felix_> bob2, it keeps telling me that the group admin'  doesnt exist
[05:07] <Miks> how can i navigate in the console through folder that have names separated by spaces?
[05:07] <felix_> and there was no %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[05:08] <felix_> in etc/sudoers
[05:08] <felix_> WHAT IS THIS
[05:08] <cafuego_> that was interesting
[05:11] <butcherbird> Miks: * is your friend
[05:11] <felix_> cafeugo  ;)
[05:11] <tomas_> algum do RS Porto Alegre?
[05:11] <cafuego_> ~br
[05:11] <ubotu_> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigado.
[05:12] <remyforbes777> can not havign the correct fonts loaded cause you not tobe able to startx
[05:13] <ksmurf> bob2 nanolith seveas!!!!! all of those @ bugzilla and the developers YOU ARE GODS!!!!
[05:14] <togs> sndj
[05:14] <markinhos> Im looking for the repository for win32codecs...
[05:15] <felix_> bob2, btw, my problem is exactly the same as this guy http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24598.html
[05:15] <gefbals> locomorto:  finish... doing it ...but sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5.. pagkage not found..
[05:15] <gefbals> locomorto:  what shall i do?
[05:16] <whyameye> how do you use the filters in Synaptic? I'm trying to locate a broken package....
[05:16] <vitriol> i'm having a problem....don't know how to fix this one
[05:16] <vitriol> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Sep 28 21:01:55 2005
[05:16] <esac> whenever i start firefox it asks me to choose a profile. i try to open the default one that is already there and it wont let me because it is already in use. any ideas?
[05:16] <locomorto> gefbals: you should have blackdown java now
[05:16] <vitriol> the root of the problem is my clock running too fast cause of the timer check bug :(
[05:16] <SirWraith> ok, got another question
[05:16] <markinhos> where can I find the win32codecs?
[05:16] <vitriol> but i guess i can't use any sudo commands for an half hour or so
[05:16] <gefbals> locomorto: what do you men..blackdown java?
[05:16] <bob2> felix_: if they had a real issue, they presumably would have filed a bug
[05:17] <bob2> ksmurf: fixed?
[05:17] <SirWraith> when i partition this disk, i'm gonna have to have everything be erased...
[05:17] <felix_> bob2, well i'm not the 1st one with this problem, and it does exist..
[05:17] <bob2> felix_: as above
[05:17] <SirWraith> how many partitions do i wanna create (/, boot, swap, etc) since i am doing it fresh
[05:17] <juliaintenn> hi, new ubuntu/linux user here -- can i change my desktop settings to icon text shows up on top of solid color even when I have a desktop image
[05:17] <gefbals> locomorto: i found it..:) ill will try..it..
[05:18] <butcherbird> esac: sounds like firefox is already running.
[05:18] <esac> butcherbird: ps aux doesn't show anything
[05:18] <vitriol> can anyone tell me how i can get sudo back?
[05:19] <felix_> bob2, so since they dont have filled a bug, my problem is not real.
[05:19] <vitriol> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Sep 28 21:01:55 2005
[05:19] <dooglus> esac: if "ps aux" doesn't show anything, it means you don't have any processes running.  is your computer switched on?
[05:19] <vitriol> this is *really* not a good thing (TM)
[05:19] <alzabar> hi people
[05:19] <SirWraith> I've got a few install questions, and if someone could PM me for 2 minutes, that would be wonderful
[05:19] <esac> dooglus: obviously i meant ps aux isn't showing firefox listed as a running application
[05:19] <dooglus> esac: oh, i see.
[05:19] <bob2> felix_: why don't you file a bug then?
[05:20] <alzabar> I got ubuntu installed but I have  to change to my onboard graphics since X wont start with my PCI video card
[05:20] <alzabar> Im in X now but I have no sound
[05:20] <bob2> felix_: I'm very reluctant to believe random reports on the forums, since people there seem to have a habit of messing with things they don't understand
[05:20] <alzabar> keeps saying so such device
[05:20] <felix_> bob2, i will start by being able to sudo, if you please..
[05:20] <bob2> felix_: oh, stop being such a gimp
[05:20] <_Jes_> if I make a screenshot the Zapping program, I am using to watch Tv, and all OpenGL programs are just blck boxes.
[05:20] <bob2> idiot
[05:20] <alzabar> it sees all my hardware but nothing works
[05:20] <felix_> bob2, well, i really didnt change anything at the install...
[05:20] <_Jes_> s there a way to make a real screenshot?
[05:20] <maximaus> wireless noob question: I'm gonna grab a d-link-g520 card tomorrow, router brand shouldn't matter, right?
[05:21] <felix_> and it seems i'M not the only one with this prob
[05:21] <felix_> thats all
[05:21] <twizted> I need to see if someone can help me, I have ubuntu installed and Apache2 PHP5 and MySQL installed and working. but there is one thing that is bugging me. When using a link to a user directory i.e. http://www.link.com/~user it will only serve a index.html automatically... I need it to serve index.php but without the index.html file it just says page cannot be displayed
[05:21] <alzabar> maybe I can use my onboard sound also is there a way to configure alsa
[05:21] <butcherbird> esac: sorry all outa ideas :p
[05:21] <bob2> maximaus: what chipset does that card use?
[05:22] <maximaus> bob2, I forget, but it's 100% supported, I checked.
[05:22] <maximaus> $40 at Circuit City.
[05:23] <vitriol> vitriol@solstice:~$ sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[05:23] <vitriol> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Sep 28 21:01:55 2005
[05:23] <vitriol> nobody knows how to fix this??
[05:23] <bob2> vitriol: one question mark is plenty
[05:23] <cafuego_> !test
[05:23] <ubotu> Crashed.
[05:23] <dooglus> if I plug an external monitor into my laptop before I boot, it works.  If I plug it in after I boot, it doesn't.  Is there some way I can get it working without rebooting if it wasn't plugged in when I booted?
[05:23] <vitriol> figured i'd ask one more time then give up for tonight
[05:24] <bob2> vitriol: what does "date" print?
[05:24] <vitriol> Wed Sep 28 20:24:06 PDT 2005
[05:24] <vitriol> bob2: it's the timer check bug
[05:24] <bob2> why is the timestamp in the future?
[05:24] <vitriol> rebooted, then ntp fixed the tdate
[05:24] <dooglus> did you notice that the ubuntu bugzilla is an hour fast?
[05:25] <vitriol> is there an option i can pass to the kernel at boot?
[05:25] <vitriol> like no_timer_check
[05:25] <vitriol> (that didn't work)
[05:25] <alzabar> can anybody help me with my sound
[05:25] <_Jes_> any hints on how to make a screenshot of opengl games?
[05:26] <vitriol> [  110.285064]  Losing some ticks... checking if CPU frequency changed.
[05:26] <twizted> I need to see if someone can help me, I have ubuntu installed and Apache2 PHP5 and MySQL installed and working. but there is one thing that is bugging me. When using a link to a user directory i.e. http://www.link.com/~user it will only serve a index.html automatically... I need it to serve index.php but without the index.html file it just says page cannot be displayed
[05:27] <dooglus> vitriol: is this it? https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16304
[05:27] <bob2> vitriol: perhaps hpt or something is broken
[05:27] <Sin> i have a problem setting up my dsl to get on the net. not much help on the boards so i came here. im using ubuntu 5.04
[05:27] <Hikaru79> Does anyone know what package wnck-applet is part of? libwnck18?
[05:27] <bob2> Sin: you need to provide a lot more detail
[05:27] <Sin> ok
[05:27] <bob2> Hikaru79: "dpkg -S wnck-app" will tell you
[05:27] <Sin> neither root terminal nor networking will come up. they seem to crash
[05:28] <Hikaru79> Ah, thank you! :)
[05:28] <bob2> Sin: ignore that
[05:28] <Sin> on the live cd i was able to get into networking and root
[05:28] <cafuego_> bye ubotu_
[05:29] <Sin> im on dsl, connected to my ethernet port. im pretty sure they use the ppp0, i try to srt the autofind the modem and it says its not connected or busy
[05:29] <bob2> so, you want to use pppoe?
[05:29] <bob2> or is it a router?
[05:29] <Sin> it worked for me whan i was on xandros
[05:29] <Sin> just a modem
[05:30] <bob2> then run 'sudo ppoeconf' in a terminal
[05:30] <jrattner1> How can i use the info from xev, to link a button to a feature.  For example, my volume down button on my keyboard actually turning my volume down?..
[05:30] <Sin> ok im on windows, so ill have to boot over there. is there anything else other than that i should do while im over there
[05:30] <bob2> system -> preferences -> keybindings, if it works
[05:30] <Varanger> when will Breezy be out?
[05:31] <jrattner1> bob2, keybindings
[05:31] <remyforbes777> how do you convert to using Xfree86 instead of xorg
[05:31] <remyforbes777> or is there a difference
[05:32] <bob2> remyforbes777: why would you want that?
[05:32] <bob2> xfree86 is the old unmaintained X server
[05:32] <remyforbes777> want Xfree86
[05:32] <remyforbes777> ?
[05:32] <Sin> so i take that as a no?
[05:32] <remyforbes777> because i see that is what knoppix is using , X wont work with my ubuntu 64 install
[05:32] <remyforbes777> but it will with knoppix
[05:33] <butcherbird> any of you guys use pure-ftpd on a nonstandard port? i got a question.
[05:33] <bob2> butcherbird: that's unlikely to work
[05:33] <bob2> Sin: yes
[05:33] <remyforbes777> and during knoppix initialization it said it was using xfree86
[05:33] <butcherbird> bob2: so far your right ;)
[05:33] <alzabar> how do I config alsa
[05:33] <bob2> butcherbird: why would you do that?
[05:33] <bob2> alzabar: there's nothing to configure
[05:33] <alzabar> well
[05:33] <alzabar> my sound is not working
[05:33] <cafuego_> butcherbird: It will be OK provided you tell ip_contrack_ftp that the nonstandard port needs to be allowed via RELATED traffic (passive ftp)
[05:34] <cafuego_> Google for how to do that, I forget...
[05:34] <butcherbird> bob2: thought i might avoid anyone trying to brute force stuff like that
[05:34] <cafuego_> butcherbird: use 'sftp' or s'cp' for that.
[05:34] <alzabar> I got a sound blaster and a onboard sound
[05:34] <alzabar> I want at least one of them to work
[05:35] <_Jes_> is it possible to make screenshots of opengl games?
[05:35] <butcherbird> bob2, cafuego_, back to the drawingboard thx guys..
[05:35] <alzabar> I got no alsamixer nothing I want to know whats going on
[05:35] <felix> bob2, just for info :  I did it... :)      ; i had to edit the sudoers file to add Myusername ALL=(ALL) ALL   , so i could open Users and groups , i Created an Admin group (since it really didnt exist)       and added my username to it, then i will have to remove my username from the sudoers in a few minutes.. twas that 'simple'
[05:37] <bob2> butcherbird: ftp is inherently insecure
[05:37] <bob2> felix: please file a bug
[05:37] <alzabar> can someone help me
[05:37] <bob2> alzabar: disable the onboard one in the bios
[05:37] <alzabar> I cant
[05:38] <alzabar> there is no option
[05:38] <felix> bob2, its hard to do file a bug a bit.... what will i say  ? i mean, i didnt use any special commands or software, it was a basic install using an official cd .. its a bug allright, but i think bugzilla needs to be more..'specific' no ?
[05:39] <juliaintenn> any way to change desktop icons to text below them shows up on solid color background?
[05:39] <alzabar> ok back to windows
[05:39] <bob2> felix: someone needs to report it
[05:40] <DonL> bob2, are you running Breezy?
[05:40] <bob2> alzabar: shame you give up so easy, but googd luck
[05:40] <alzabar> well its been a month
[05:40] <bob2> DonL: yes
[05:40] <felix> i will go, but i dont have much to say.
[05:40] <alzabar> no one can give me a straight answer always pointing me somewhere else
[05:40] <felix> opensource needs everyone to participate, im aware of this..
[05:40] <bob2> alzabar: great attitude, too
[05:40] <DonL> bob2, did you upgrade, and did you have any problems?
[05:40] <_Jes_> alzabar: if you can't disable the onboard chip - why not remove the soundcard?
[05:41] <bob2> DonL: yes, only that X didn't start, which was trivial to fix
[05:41] <davebgimp1> Hi I have a HP Pavilion ze2315us laptop and can't for the life of me get Ubuntu to boot. It seems to complete the install, but freezes at times when loading and if it gets to the login, once I sign in, it freezes at the loading screen. Am I out of luck? Or is there something I can do?
[05:41] <Varanger> how can I uninstall grub?
[05:41] <bob2> alzabar: just blacklist the module for it, then
[05:41] <bob2> Varanger: why?
[05:41] <alzabar> I can remove it its a onboard
[05:41] <DonL> bob2, help! That's my problem. I don't know how to fix it
[05:41] <Varanger> bob2: actually, I'd like to install grub on sdaX and leave the boot sector with NT loader
[05:41] <libervisco> Hello..
[05:42] <remyforbes777> hey dave I am having the same issue
[05:42] <bob2> DonL: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:42] <remyforbes777> i have a compaq V2300
[05:42] <bob2> Varanger: then use windows to reinstall the bootloader in the mbr
[05:42] <remyforbes777> is your an amd 64 turion
[05:42] <libervisco> I'm currently on Debian, trying it out after Ubuntu.. but it's too outdated and I'm on modem so dist-upgrading to testing isn't really the best way to go...
[05:43] <_Jes_> alzabar: i meant the sound blaster and not the onboard sound
[05:43] <davebgimp1> amd sempron 3000
[05:43] <remyforbes777> ok
[05:43] <remyforbes777> well i am having the same issue
[05:43] <Varanger> bob2: then I used a rescue cd on Linux to install grub on sdaX ?
[05:43] <remyforbes777> i jsut reinstalled ubuntu 64 and at login it freezes
[05:44] <remyforbes777> sometime it wouldnt even get through the full install
[05:44] <DonL> Thanks, bob2. I'll try that right now.
[05:44] <davebgimp1> same problem although I don't think my processor is a 64
[05:44] <libervisco> I think I'll better stick to Ubuntu.. but I wanted to ask something, can I install packages from breezy into hoary and then later from dapner to breezy?
[05:44] <DonL> ...off I go to try...
[05:44] <remyforbes777> ok
[05:44] <remyforbes777> i dont know what to do
[05:44] <bob2> Varanger: yes
[05:44] <crimsun> libervisco, in that case you'd be better off just running breezy and dapper, respectively
[05:45] <davebgimp1> it stalls while loading sometimes and when it does get to the login screen it freezes at the gnome splash
[05:45] <davebgimp1> tried the Breezy preview and Hoary
[05:45] <remyforbes777> yep
[05:45] <remyforbes777> yep
[05:45] <libervisco> crimsun, yeah.. I meant before the actual release
[05:45] <remyforbes777> me also
[05:45] <GTswagger> Anybody around that is good with keychain?
[05:45] <remyforbes777> i can even put in my username and password
[05:46] <crimsun> libervisco, there's no reason you can't run the devel branch.
[05:46] <remyforbes777> then when the splash screen comes on the sound seems like its sticking and it freezes
[05:46] <crimsun> GTswagger, what's the issue?
[05:46] <GTswagger> I'm having a problem getting it to work;  namely ssh-agent not adding ~/.ssh/id_dsa  ("could not open a connection to your authentication agent"
[05:46] <libervisco> crimsun, right.. so I just dist-upgrade to it
[05:46] <davebgimp1> exactly the same thing
[05:46] <remyforbes777> dang
[05:46] <libervisco> modify sources.list, set breezy as default in apt.conf and off I go :)
[05:46] <libervisco> right?
[05:47] <crimsun> GTswagger, are you sourcing the correct keychain script from ~/.bashrc?
[05:47] <davebgimp1> Can anyone give me any ideas on something I can try to fix this?
[05:47] <Sin> ok
[05:47] <GTswagger> crimsun -- not sure what you mean by that;  I am able to go:  ssh user@host  ... and only validate the pass on my key to login....
[05:48] <Sin> i did the ppoeconf and got nothing
[05:48] <GTswagger> crimsun -- I have also added the following to .bash_profile:   keychain ~/.ssh/id_da    (newline)  . ~/.keychain/$HOSTNAME-sh
[05:48] <Sin> the sudo ppoeconf bob2 suggested about 10 mins ago that is
[05:48] <ramblingturtle23> hello, I am having a problem with X after trying to upgrade to breezy now all i get is the command line anybody willing to help out
[05:48] <bob2> Sin: "got nothing" is not a description of the problem
[05:48] <GTswagger> crimsun -- haven't logged out or anything since changing the .bash_profile file, if that matters
[05:48] <crimsun> GTswagger, typo?
[05:49] <bob2> Sin: no one else can see your computer, you need to be very specific about what happens, and what is displayed
[05:49] <GTswagger> crimsun -- no, what I typed is exactly what's on my system
[05:49] <Sin> i did it, it said it couldnt be found
[05:49] <whyameye> am I right that a modem with an ESS chipset simply will not work in Hoary?
[05:49] <bob2> Sin: install the pppoeconf package
[05:49] <crimsun> GTswagger, since when did you start creating id_da and id_da.pub (vs. id_dsa and id_dsa.pub, respectively)?
[05:50] <GTswagger> crimsun -- I'm trying to have password-less scp via cron... and this is the only way to do that, I've been told
[05:50] <GTswagger> oh - sorry -- yes, that is a typo... id_dsa
[05:50] <Sin> can i do that offline? because i have yet to be able to get online with ubuntu
[05:50] <GTswagger> I always typo that to... like 80%+ ... dunno why
[05:50] <GTswagger> UGH
[05:50] <GTswagger> *too
[05:50] <bob2> Sin: if you have a cd
[05:50] <GTswagger> <--- needs some coffee
[05:50] <crimsun> GTswagger, and after logging out and back in?
[05:50] <GTswagger> crimsun -- haven't... should I do that now
[05:50] <Sin> the install cd?
[05:51] <crimsun> GTswagger, yes
[05:52] <GTswagger> crimsun -- merge?  You on Gentoo?
[05:52] <Sin> the install cd?
[05:52] <davebgimp1> Can someone please give me a hand with my Ubuntu install? The load at times hangs and when logging in, the system freezes ad the sound seems to skip every time.
[05:52] <crimsun> GTswagger, no, I have to merge Debian changes to the keychain package into the Ubuntu ones and upload
[05:52] <_Jes_> Sin: yes, the install cd
[05:52] <davebgimp1> I can't seem to get Ubuntu to work at all
[05:53] <GTswagger> crimsun -- woohoo... when I did ssh-add ~/.ssh/id_dsa it asked for the pass and added it
[05:53] <GTswagger> crimsun++
[05:53] <Sin> so i click on the cd icon on the desktop and just root around till i find it?
[05:54] <abarbaccia> hey - how come when i go to play an mpg from firefox, totem gives me an error like this: Totem could not play 'fd://0'.
[05:54] <abarbaccia> install the appropriate plugin
[05:54] <vladuz976> anybody know how i can extract email addresses out of a text file with vim?
[05:54] <abarbaccia> no decoders found to handle the stream
[05:55] <ksmurf> what to hear the meaning of ironic.... I jumped in to compliment everyone for getting battery indicators working in breezy and I crashed..... and lost my internal wifi card yet again.... and screen dim dumps me to a hibranate that doesn't work ....rofl...
[05:55] <jrattner1> How can i use the info from xev, to link a button to a feature.  For example, my volume down button on my keyboard actually turning my volume down?
[05:55] <wrabbit01> Hey everybody, I installed a bunch of audio drivers and codecs today just to get mp3 and other files working.  Now that it's all done and fine, I can't get any sound in games like Solarwolf etc.
[05:55] <wrabbit01> Any easy way to fix this?
[05:55] <ksmurf> But hey my battery indicator works............
[05:55] <bob2> jrattner1: read what I said earlier
[05:56] <_Jes_> Sin: use: sudo apt-get install pppoeconf - the cd should be used automaticaly
[05:56] <ksmurf> bob2 pm me if you have time pls....
[05:56] <jrattner1> bob2, the keybindings thing?
[05:56] <DonL> bob2, it appears I don
[05:57] <DonL> don't have  xserver-org
[05:57] <ksmurf> xorg
[05:57] <bob2> ksmurf: I don't do that, sorry
[05:57] <bob2> jrattner1: yes; or doesn't it produce a keysym?
[05:57] <crimsun> wrabbit01, are you using default Ubuntu audio settings?
[05:58] <wrabbit01> As far as I know crimson.
[05:58] <wrabbit01> Unless the audio drivers and codecs messed around with em
[05:58] <crimsun> wrabbit01, then you'll want to stop esd before you start a game
[05:58] <ksmurf> no problem..... I just wanted you to take a look at my dmesg now that my card is down again.... last night it was up
[05:58] <wrabbit01> How do I start it again crimsun?
[05:58] <jrattner1> bob2, i believe it does, I have it report two seperate events a keypress and keyrelease
[05:58] <crimsun> wrabbit01, System> Preferences> Sound> uncheck Enable sound server startup
[05:58] <dooglus> I asked "if I plug an external monitor into my laptop before I boot, it works.  If I plug it in after I boot, it doesn't.  Is there some way I can get it working without rebooting if it wasn't plugged in when I booted?"
[05:59] <crimsun> wrabbit01, then start your game. After you exit your game, recheck that box that you unchecked.
[05:59] <dooglus> I discovered the answer: on my laptop I press "Fn" and hit F5, then restart X.
[05:59] <abarbaccia> whats the name of the w32codecs in breezy?
[05:59] <DonL> bob2, can I ask what you did again? Maybe I wrote it down wrong. Was it "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org?
[05:59] <wrabbit01> crimsun: You're a champ.  It works. :)
[05:59] <dooglus> I'd prefer not to have to restart X, but it's better than rebooting
[05:59] <wrabbit01> crimsun: Thanks alot
[05:59] <FR500> hello
[05:59] <crimsun> wrabbit01, np
[06:00] <_Jes_> dooglus: does a restart of X work? (ctrl-alt-backspace)
[06:00] <all> hi
[06:00] <_Jes_> oh, you where faster ...
[06:00] <jrattner1> bob2, ?
[06:00] <all> did u have cam,
[06:01] <robert1123> hello all. Can any one tell me how to uninstall a program that u get through the apt-get command
[06:01] <dooglus> _Jes_: only if I do the Fn+F5 trick first
[06:01] <abarbaccia> apt-get remove <program name> robert1123
[06:01] <jrattner1> apt-get remove
[06:01] <jrattner1> yeh
[06:01] <robert1123> thank you
[06:01] <FR500> how can i identify which app has a port open? I have something on port 6667 and i dunno what it is
[06:01] <FR500> listening on port 6667 i mean
[06:01] <dooglus> _Jes_: otherwise, it doesn't notice that I added or removed the monitor
[06:01] <dooglus> (I have it set up to go dual-head if there is an external monitor)
[06:03] <_Jes_> so it works: Yeehaa! :-)
[06:03] <DonL> bob2, seems like you're needed tonight. I'll try a few other things and let you know. Thanks for your help. Night
[06:03] <ColonelKernel> well, I was gonna try out gentoo on the spare box - but the minimal install cd for it is borked
[06:03] <robert1123> how do you upgrade a program that u get with the apt-get command?
[06:03] <dooglus> _Jes_: I was posting the answer here so it's next to the question.  useful for future reference.
[06:04] <_Jes_> robert1123: try this -> man apt-get
[06:04] <robert1123> thanks
[06:06] <remyforbes777> can someone tell me what the command is to reconfigure X
[06:06] <hondje> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:07] <remyforbes777> hondje: excellent , thanks
[06:07] <hondje> No problem
[06:07] <FR500> how can i identify which app has a port open? I have something listening on port 6667 and i dunno what it is
[06:08] <dooglus> FR500: "netstat -ap"
[06:08] <nickrud> FR500, sudo netstat -tlp
[06:08] <_Jes_> 6667 is used by edonkey/xmule
[06:08] <nicholaspaul> hey gurus
[06:09] <nicholaspaul> does anyone know how to format a newly -installed hard drive?
[06:09] <grndslm> who should I talk to about asking for a feature in Gnome??  specifically, I want an option in Gnome so that all windows stay maximized, whether it's firefox or the software updates screen, or even IM windows...
[06:09] <dooglus> nickrud: the netstat man page doesn't say what -t does.  do you know?
[06:09] <hondje> nicholaspaul:  mkfs
[06:09] <crimsun> dooglus, tcp
[06:10] <hondje> gparted can do it if you want a gui
[06:10] <nicholaspaul> hondje: thanks!
[06:10] <nickrud> listening on tlp, if i remembe correctly
[06:10] <hondje> :)
[06:10] <dooglus> crimsun: huh?
[06:10] <nickrud> heh
[06:10] <bob832> hi, has anyone gotten the dell 720 printer to work in ubuntu?
[06:10] <crimsun> dooglus, [--tcp|-t] 
[06:10] <nickrud> tcp :)
[06:10] <dooglus> crimsun: it doesn't say what --tcp does, either
[06:10] <FR500> nickrud: it doesnt show, but if i do an nmap localhost it says 6667 open
[06:11] <crimsun> dooglus, should it? (It means show TCP connections)
[06:11] <hondje> FR500: lsof | grep 6667 maybe
[06:11] <dooglus> crimsun: man pages should document all the flags a program accepts, yes
[06:11] <crimsun> dooglus, it's fairly self-explanatory from the usage section of the man page
[06:11] <crimsun> dooglus, it's definitely documented in the man page
[06:11] <nicholaspaul> hondje: do i have to make a file system too?
[06:11] <nickrud> FR500, then, I'd look a bit deeper, if it was my machine
[06:11] <dooglus> crimsun: is it?  I didn't see it mentioned anywhere other than in the USAGE section
[06:11] <hondje> nicholaspaul: mkfs is make filesystem
[06:11] <dooglus> sorry - the SYNOPSIS section
[06:12] <nicholaspaul> hondje: oh...duh.. thanks :)
[06:12] <crimsun> dooglus, submit a bug with a patch against the man page
[06:12] <hondje> :) mkfs.ext3 makes ext3, etc, lots of short cuts to save on the switches
[06:12] <FR500> dooglus: nothing
[06:12] <dooglus> crimsun: what does it do?
[06:12] <FR500> well, anyway i'm wiping this disc clean for breezy
[06:12] <FR500> thanks ppl
[06:12] <crimsun> dooglus, I explained above
[06:13] <nicholaspaul> hondje: yea i was a little scared that there was no yes/no option - all of a sudden its formatted! LOL
[06:13] <dooglus> crimsun: I didn't see it.  I saw you tell me it was self explanitory, but I didn't see the explanation
[06:13] <alzabar> ok
[06:13] <alzabar> I took all my cards out
[06:13] <alzabar> now everything is working
[06:13] <hondje> nicholaspaul: hehe, it's quite efficient :)
[06:14] <hondje> nicholaspaul: make sure to use fdisk to make your partitions before you mount it, even if it's just one partition :)
[06:14] <dooglus> ooh - i see.  "it means show TCP connections".  sorry - I missed that.
[06:14] <nicholaspaul> hondje: so how about makgin a partition table? fdisk says my new drive doesnt have one.
[06:14] <alzabar> grr stupid pc
[06:14] <_Jes_> alzabar: congratulations. have fun and listen to good music. ;-)
[06:15] <nicholaspaul> hondje: you read my mind!
[06:15] <grndslm> who should I talk to about asking for a feature in Gnome?
[06:15] <alzabar> yeah nothing works unless its just onboard
[06:15] <spindley> you should fdisk, then mkfs, then mount
[06:15] <grndslm> more specifically...how do you search for a certain room in IRC??
[06:15] <B_166-ER-X> what is the command to open a .rar by terminal ?   even if i have unrar nonfree install, file roller dont want to open an archive
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> unrar e (or x)
[06:16] <spindley> B_166-ER-X, unrar x
[06:16] <B_166-ER-X> ok
[06:16] <B_166-ER-X> it says 'cannot create' 'every file name in the .rar'
[06:16] <_Jes_> B_166-ER-X: man unrar
[06:17] <esac> how do i copy from vim/gvim into another program
[06:17] <_Jes_> B_166-ER-X: unrar e <file> , if I recall right
[06:17] <nicholaspaul> spindley: i mkfs then fdisk then mount.. does that matter?
[06:17] <irg> grndslm: you could try in the #ubuntu-love or #ubuntu-desktop channels
[06:18] <spindley> nicholaspaul, i would fdisk the drive, create my partitions, then mkfs.ext3 (or whatever) /dev/hdX1, etc
[06:18] <spindley> you can't mkfs if there's no partition to make a filesystem on..
[06:18] <nicholaspaul> oh i shee...
[06:18] <nicholaspaul> i have no idea!! :) thanks mate
[06:18] <spindley> np
[06:19] <grndslm> irg: gracias
[06:19] <nicholaspaul> crap... mkfs is fast, spindley
[06:19] <spindley> ext2/3 yeah it's fairly quick
[06:20] <spindley> reiserfs is even faster, but reiser is crap (imo)
[06:20] <fjs> What file do I edit to enable KDE to offer shutdown/reboot on the logoff menu?
[06:21] <j-linux> Is there a program that comes with Ubuntu that you can use to make icons (e.g., favicon.ico for web site)?
[06:21] <B_166-ER-X> what the equivalent of fileroller for KDE ??
[06:22] <remyforb1s777> what is 128MB in kb
[06:22] <nicholaspaul> 128 x 1024
[06:22] <crimsun> 128 1024 *n
[06:23] <nicholaspaul> 131072
[06:23] <AngryParsley> 131072kb
[06:23] <nicholaspaul> :)
[06:23] <AngryParsley> damn, beaten
[06:23] <nicholaspaul> hehe only just...
[06:23] <remyforb1s777> got it
[06:23] <remyforb1s777> thanks
[06:23] <AngryParsley> if only I hadn't typed KB
[06:23] <nicholaspaul> LOL
[06:23] <hondje> j-linux: gimp
[06:23] <sergio> hola
[06:24] <sergio> hi
[06:24] <hondje> buenas noches
[06:24] <j-linux> hondje:  how do I do it with GIMP?  Just a 32x32 image saved with an .ico extension?
[06:24] <FroG] french[> hi guys
[06:24] <FroG] french[> i need a hand ...
[06:24] <hondje> j-linux: I'd save it as a gif, since IE cries a lot, and rename it .ico
[06:24] <FroG] french[> anybody is connected ?
[06:24] <sergio> by
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> hmm?
[06:24] <FroG] french[> oki ...
[06:25] <FroG] french[> u know adobe acrobat under windows ????
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> there 454 people connected here. :P more or less.
[06:25] <FroG] french[> is anything like this on gnome ?
[06:25] <j-linux> hondje: ok, thanks... actually, I think it's supposed to be 16x16, no?
[06:25] <sportman> hey
[06:25] <sportman> im trying to back up my files
[06:25] <sportman> um i have a crossover cable
[06:25] <hondje> j-linux: I don't remember :)
[06:26] <sportman> that is 100mb/s connection and 1 nic card on each computer that is 100mb/s
[06:26] <sportman> shouldnt i get like 4 mbs
[06:26] <remyforb1s777> will having incorrect fonts loaded mess up starting x
[06:26] <sportman> 4 each second
[06:26] <sportman> im getting 100kb/s
[06:26] <sportman> :(
[06:26] <procrastinationn> taco bell was good
[06:26] <j-linux> hondje: I just found a tutorial -- says 16x16, and also a 32x32 for the favorites...
[06:27] <calc> procrastinationn: 50 years ago? :)
[06:27] <j-linux> hondje: thanks.
[06:27] <spindley> FroG] french[, 'sudo apt-get install acroread'
[06:27] <procrastinationn> who was helpin me install codecs
[06:27] <remyforb1s777> im going to copy my xorg config file from knoppix to ubuntu 64 tomorrow
[06:27] <calc> taco bell's hottest hot sauce is barely warm :\
[06:27] <FroG] french[> spindley, it's juste a pdf reader acroread no ???
[06:27] <remyforb1s777> see if that fixes th e dang problem
[06:27] <spindley> well, it's acrobat for linux yeah
[06:27] <FroG] french[> sportman, 100mbits/s ... it's not 100 mo /s !!!!!
[06:27] <spindley> you want distiller or something?
[06:27] <sportman> yea
[06:27] <sportman> i know
[06:28] <FroG] french[> you have to divide 100 mb by 8 !!!
[06:28] <sportman> yea
[06:28] <_Jes_> FroG] french[: use "Add Aplications" and look for "Acrobat Reader"
[06:28] <sportman> but it still should be like 8-1/2mbs
[06:28] <sportman> i get like 150kb/s
[06:28] <FroG] french[> i don't want the reader one !!
[06:28] <FroG] french[> arf
[06:28] <FroG] french[> sportman,
[06:28] <sportman> i know its not going to go 100 megabites everysecond, id be happy with just one
[06:28] <sportman> lol
[06:29] <FroG] french[> lol
[06:29] <sportman> n e ideas
[06:29] <sportman> its just a simple crossover either net cable
[06:29] <_Jes_> FroG] french[: my pdf-files are opened with "Evince 0.4.0"
[06:29] <sportman> two computers using static ip addresses
[06:29] <FroG] french[> i don't want just to open pdf file
[06:29] <FroG] french[> i've xpdf to do it !
[06:29] <sportman> 2 feet away from each other
[06:29] <sportman> lol
[06:29] <sportman> but no it has to be stupid on me
[06:29] <FroG] french[> i want to be able to add page to the pdf file
[06:29] <FroG] french[> etC/
[06:30] <FroG] french[> remove pages
[06:30] <FroG] french[> changes comment
[06:30] <FroG] french[> etc.
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> you mean EDIT pdf files
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:30] <FroG] french[> like in adobe acrobat (not adobe acrobat READER)
[06:30] <_Jes_> FroG] french[: Evince is just a reader
[06:30] <FroG] french[> how silly i am ... I know it's just a reader !!
[06:31] <FroG] french[> that's why i tell you it doesn't match my need
[06:32] <_Jes_> FroG] french[: I think you need ghostscipt, but I'm really not into that stuff... anybody else?
[06:32] <sportman> lol
[06:33] <FroG] french[> sportman, for you're speed problem, it may be caused by a firewall, if you have one !
[06:38] <nickrud> soliste, Dr_Willis you have some advice for editing pdf
[06:38] <nickrud> 's
[06:38] <fr33mind> Question: where evolution put mail account list ??  I try to restore my evolution parameter from my user account backup.  I look in .evolution, .gnome2_private and .gconf/apps
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> nope.. i can honestly say ive never edited one.
[06:39] <nickrud> :)
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> Not sure if Openoffice can do it.
[06:39] <alexcamilo> hello. Where is GCC in ubuntu?
[06:39] <fr33mind> ( I mean the config file of the mail account list)
[06:39] <_Jes_> alexcamilo: try -> which gcc
[06:40] <nickrud> alexandros, in sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:40] <Varanger> when is Breezy going out ?
[06:40] <alexcamilo> trying
[06:40] <crimsun> Varanger, has your sound been fixed yet?
[06:40] <HermanDE> Ok...Slightly OT:  Anybody know of a good replacement for squrrelmail?
[06:40] <Varanger> crimsun: I don't know :(
[06:41] <j-linux> when I first installed Ubuntu, the bootup was fast.  I added two more network devices in my settings (task bar) and now it takes a very long time to boot.  It hangs a while on "configureing network settings" or "network devices" or something similar.
[06:41] <protok0l> HermanDE, ssh and mutt
[06:41] <Varanger> crimsun: I sent a post to bugtrack and tiwai answered me
[06:41] <alexcamilo> thankyou!
[06:41] <j-linux> Everything works, but it's a slow boot.
[06:41] <alexcamilo> now i can learn c!
[06:41] <Varanger> I installed a brand new Debian ... and sound was working wonderfully
[06:41] <HermanDE> protok0l: I like that too...  But too many people are afraid of that little blinky thing on the black screen...
[06:41] <Varanger> crimsun: I am waiting to Breezy to return to Ubuntu
[06:41] <nickrud> alexandros, I remember that time, enjoy :)
[06:42] <alexcamilo> sockets are gonna be fun (i hope). i've always had a fondness for network programming in realbasic.
[06:43] <_Jes_> time to go
[06:43] <_Jes_> bye
[06:44] <flankk> 'can u change my computer back to windows xp i dont like the way it is'
[06:44] <flankk> 'What's missing?'
[06:44] <flankk> 'i just dont like it i like windows xp'
[06:45] <fr33mind> Question: where evolution put configuration file for mail account list ??  I try to restore my evolution parameter from my user account backup.  I look in .evolution, .gnome2_private and .gconf/apps
[06:45] <flankk> Tried convincing this person that they can have alternatives for all the applications they used in XP, 'no i just dont like the whole set up with the way it is now'
[06:45] <flankk> Ugh.. what can you do.
[06:45] <Varanger> crimsun: bye
[06:45] <Sonny_Wertzik> does anyone know where to get GTK themes besides gnome look?
[06:45] <nickrud> !themes
[06:46] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, themes is at http://art.ubuntu.com -  http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/ - http://www.guistyles.com
[06:46] <Erron> Hi I installed ubuntu , and it asked to specify a user so I made one, but what is the default root pass because I dont remember setting any
[06:46] <Sonny_Wertzik> hehehehe
[06:46] <dooglus> !root
[06:46] <ubotu> it has been said that root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[06:46] <breakthestate> just use sudo
[06:46] <HermanDE> flankk: People forget the learning process..  And usually forget that once you learn how to drive a VW, everything else becomes easy...
[06:46] <nickrud> ah, ubotu is till there
[06:46] <breakthestate> and sudo -s for a sudo shell
[06:46] <Sonny_Wertzik> thx
[06:47] <flankk> HermanDE, I don't get it.. they are not a 'power-user', and only use a couple applications, like IM and a soudn player.. I told them the interface can be changed to however they like..
[06:48] <Amaranth> anyone using firefox 1.5 beta 1 should check out http://developer.mozilla.org/samples/raycaster/RayCaster.html
[06:48] <Amaranth> it's awesome
[06:49] <nickrud> I'll byte, what
[06:49] <nickrud> is the canvas tag?
[06:50] <weiorhwe> i give up
[06:50] <Amaranth> it's a 2D drawing API that apple made for safari and is apart of the WHATWG spec
[06:51] <oxez> hm, it seems I have to reboot my machine to make Xorg recognize my changes in xorg.conf file. I tried /etc/init.d/gdm stop (and xorg-common), but changes don't apply until I reboot.. ideas?
[06:51] <caustictwin> thanks guys for making a linux distro that is so easy to use
[06:51] <caustictwin> (that goes to all involved)
[06:52] <GTswagger> crimsun -- you still around?
[06:52] <weiorhwe> thank debian
[06:52] <weiorhwe> #debian
[06:52] <caustictwin> ok
[06:52] <caustictwin> they're next
[06:52] <weiorhwe> :)
[06:53] <flankk> weiorhwe, you can thank by donation, or by developing, if you're poor :D
[06:53] <caustictwin> in breezy badger, where do you have to go to get w32codecs?
[06:53] <duken> ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net is down?
[06:53] <moj0rising> Does anyone know where I can find a list of organizations that have implemented samba?
[06:53] <weiorhwe> caustictwin, you need multiverse in your sources.list
[06:53] <moj0rising> Sorry for being a little ff topic.
[06:53] <bob2> moj0rising: try #samba
[06:54] <moj0rising> I am trying to get my organization to switch to it..
[06:54] <moj0rising> they did not have one.
[06:54] <moj0rising> tried.
[06:54] <duken> Failed to fetch http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/
[06:54] <nnonix> anyone here have amarok running correctly under gnome in breezy?
[06:54] <Ninjew> moj0rising: Switch to samba for Windows Domain Control, or just for file serving?
[06:54] <duken> http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net is down?
[06:54] <moj0rising> file serving.
[06:54] <Erron> any ubuntu devs here?
[06:54] <moj0rising> don't think it can be a PDC yet, right??
[06:55] <Ninjew> moj0rising: It can, but not for Active Directory
[06:55] <caustictwin> moj0rising: to which repository do I add multiverse?
[06:55] <bob2> duken: so don't use it
[06:55] <bob2> Erron: best to just ask your question
[06:55] <moj0rising> ah. They are actually doing an AD install now :(
[06:55] <nickrud> caustictwin, http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html, look at the codec part, and get what you need.
[06:55] <weiorhwe>  deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse
[06:55] <bob2> moj0rising: www.samba.org, yes it can
[06:55] <weiorhwe> is the line you need
[06:55] <Amaranth> caustictwin: the package is no longer available due to legal reasons
[06:55] <caustictwin> ?
[06:55] <moj0rising> Actually, I think I remember reading that now, that you mention it.
[06:55] <caustictwin> lame...
[06:55] <Erron> just wanted to say I recieved ubuntu today a whole pack of it and gave it out at school to everyone loved it.
[06:55] <Ninjew> moj0rising: Samba can be an AD client
[06:56] <Amaranth> caustictwin: copyright is lame?
[06:56] <caustictwin> yes
[06:56] <Amaranth> without copyright even the GPL is worthless
[06:56] <caustictwin> not what the framers of the constitution had in mind
[06:56] <nickrud> caustictwin, look for
[06:56] <bob2> caustictwin: yes it is
[06:56] <weiorhwe> patents are lame at least
[06:56] <moj0rising> yeah. That's what I woul like to propose -- file servers in AD, Ninjew.
[06:56] <Amaranth> the framers of the constitution supported you ripping off windows DLLs without permission?
[06:56] <nickrud> 'patent
[06:56] <nickrud> damn
[06:56] <bob2> caustictwin: w32codecs is random dlls from various companies
[06:57] <weiorhwe> yes they did
[06:57] <nickrud> patents in the constitution, it's there
[06:57] <Ninjew> moj0rising: My College does that
[06:57] <caustictwin> bob2: i am aware
[06:57] <moj0rising> what college?
[06:57] <moj0rising> I can mention them.
[06:57] <nickrud> I'm not particulary partial to the current interpretation, but the concept is sound.
[06:57] <Ninjew> moj0rising: Kenyon college, but any company that has linux fileserving will use samba if they have win32 clients, its practially a given
[06:58] <weiorhwe> the patent system is worthless
[06:58] <deepwoodz> hey guys im having trouble installing programs cuz i dont have a gcc compiler and im runnin this distro
[06:58] <moj0rising> yeah, but I'm looking for a mass installation..
[06:58] <dooglus> I think I just found a bug in sudo
[06:58] <weiorhwe> unless you are a corporation
[06:58] <Amaranth> dooglus: oh?
[06:58] <weiorhwe> and your not
[06:58] <moj0rising> where samba serves 1000+ clients
[06:58] <dooglus> is there some way of reporting 'sensitive' bugs so that they end up in the 'right hands'?
[06:58] <Quequeg> nickrud, where is patent in the constitution?
[06:58] <bob2> deepwoodz: what are you trying to compile?
[06:58] <moj0rising> windows clients, that is.
[06:58] <Amaranth> weiorhwe: the patent system isn't broken, it just has problems
[06:58] <bob2> dooglus: where sensitive = security?
[06:59] <dooglus> bob2: yes
[06:59] <weiorhwe> it's broken
[06:59] <bob2> dooglus: you can mark the bug as visible to only canonical staff, which is fairly private
 I think I just found a bug in sudo <-- yes for me, sudo gives me root privileges!!!! ;)
[06:59] <dooglus> bob2: ok.
[06:59] <moj0rising> It'd be awesome if we had linux clients but this is one step closer to that if it were to happen.
[06:59] <bob2> dooglus: I'd email the security team too, tho
[06:59] <caustictwin> deepwoodz: did you install build-essential from apt-get?
[07:00] <deepwoodz> well actually i didnt install anything my brother did
[07:00] <Ninjew> moj0rising: Well, kenyon doesn't have THAT many simultaneous clients, but we have been using samba in various version for years with no problems... are you trying to move from windows servers to linux or from some other linux solution to samba?
[07:00] <deepwoodz> so where would that be?
[07:00] <dooglus> bob2: ok thanks.  i guess the first thing to do is search bugzilla and see if it's already famous :)
[07:00] <deepwoodz> he didnt know too much about linux
[07:00] <deepwoodz> i know a lil more but i didn install the distro
[07:00] <bob2> dooglus: heh
[07:00] <moj0rising> Ninjew: We actually use Netware now...
[07:00] <Ninjew> moj0rising: ohohoh
[07:00] <bob2> deepwoodz: there's little need to compile things in ubuntu, most htings are available pre-build
[07:00] <caustictwin> well, there is a gcc compiler contained in build-essential
[07:00] <bob2> er, pre-built
[07:01] <caustictwin> type apt-get install build-essential in a terminal
[07:01] <moj0rising> we have a domain currently being migrated from NT4 to w2k3 w/ AD...
[07:01] <deepwoodz> ok thanx
[07:01] <Ninjew> moj0rising: I always forget about netware :)
[07:01] <moj0rising> they are seriously considering moving the fileservers to MS.
[07:01] <Ninjew> moj0rising: Try posting to the samba mailing lists, you may get more responses than the irc channel
[07:01] <nnonix> netwho?
[07:01] <Amaranth> netware *shudder*
[07:01] <bob2> caustictwin: is your nick fro the afx pseudonym?
[07:01] <deepwoodz> thanx imma try that
[07:01] <moj0rising> haha ,many people do, Ninjew
[07:01] <Amaranth> my college runs netware, it scares me
[07:01] <moj0rising> Ninjew: good idea.
[07:02] <caustictwin> bob2: a conglomeration of Caustic Window and Aphex Twin yes
[07:02] <moj0rising> I'll do that for sure. I might get a lot of replies too.
[07:02] <caustictwin> a friend of mine and I made music under the name
[07:02] <bob2> hah
[07:02] <weiorhwe> i need a hangover cure
[07:02] <bob2> weiorhwe: water + sleep + bacon
[07:02] <Amaranth> oops, bed time
[07:02] <caustictwin> that was a long long time though
[07:02] <weiorhwe> bacon!
[07:02] <weiorhwe> sounds good.. will do.
[07:03] <nnonix> weiorhwe: more booze
[07:03] <nickrud> Quequeg, it's not?! I've kinda live'd my life as if it was
[07:03] <weiorhwe> i drank it all
[07:03] <bob2> weiorhwe: powerade/gatorade seem to help rehydration, too
[07:03] <moj0rising> I have another question: does anyone know a simple way to install nvidia drivers on breezy?
[07:03] <weiorhwe> modprobe nvidia
[07:03] <weiorhwe> works for me
[07:03] <bob2> moj0rising: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:03] <Ninjew> moj0rising: apt-get install nvidia-glx
[07:03] <Quequeg> nickrud:  http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html.  ;)
[07:03] <moj0rising> I guess my card is not supported by the standard methods.
[07:04] <Ninjew> moj0rising: what card?
[07:04] <moj0rising> I tried that, one...
[07:04] <weiorhwe> you need to edit xorg.conf
[07:04] <moj0rising> mx200.
[07:04] <nnonix> anyone here have amarok running correctly under gnome in breezy? --- anyone, anyone??
[07:04] <bob2> moj0rising: yay for nvidia
[07:04] <bob2> moj0rising: old geforces aren't supported anymote
[07:04] <moj0rising> haha.
[07:04] <moj0rising> really?
[07:04] <nickrud> I'd already searched another site; I will have to think again, no thanks to you :)
[07:04] <Ninjew> moj0rising: There is a legacy package I believe
[07:05] <bob2> moj0rising: you need the -legacy package
[07:05] <moj0rising> There weres ome instructions posted to ubuntuforums...
[07:05] <Ninjew> moj0rising: check nvidia's site for the linux driver release notes to see actual support
[07:05] <moj0rising> ..but they weren't working for me.
[07:05] <tzapachuau> hello
[07:05] <bonee> can i still get w32codecs with apt-get
[07:05] <nickrud> god, I hate when I have to think.
[07:05] <bob2> bonee: no, it was never in ubuntu
[07:05] <tzapachuau> ci tried installing xmms
[07:05] <moj0rising> bob2: is there a legacy package in apt repositories?
[07:05] <tzapachuau> but i got too may dependencides eoor
[07:06] <tzapachuau> error
[07:06] <bonee> its was when i add the extra repositories on ubuntuguide
[07:06] <bonee> that was back then
[07:06] <tzapachuau>  xmms: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.5-1) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14 is to be installed
[07:06] <tzapachuau>         Depends: libglib1.2 (>= 1.2.0) but it is not going to be installed
[07:06] <tzapachuau>         Depends: libgtk1.2 (>= 1.2.10-4) but it is not going to be installed
[07:06] <bob2> moj0rising: yeah, linux-restricted-modules-something-legacy
[07:06] <tzapachuau> and when i try to install the dependencies
[07:06] <bob2> tzapachuau: please don't paste things in here
[07:06] <weiorhwe> tzapachuau, apt-get -f install
[07:06] <moj0rising> I know you can't use the most current drivers.
[07:06] <bob2> tzapachuau: also, xmms is in ubuntu
[07:06] <MadpilotPPC> bonee, it's not strictly speaking in the Ubuntu repos, but see RestrictedFormats on the wiki for a fix
[07:06] <bob2> tzapachuau: don't try to use Debian .debs on ubuntu
[07:06] <tzapachuau> ok
[07:06] <MadpilotPPC> !tell bonee about restricted
[07:06] <bonee> can i get the site
[07:06] <moj0rising> ahha! I'll check that, bob2. Thanks!
[07:07] <tzapachuau> what ablut the libc6
[07:07] <tzapachuau> *about
[07:07] <tzapachuau> when i try to install it
[07:07] <tzapachuau> i'm getting dependencied error for other files
[07:07] <bob2> tzapachuau: that's because you went and downloaded a .deb from some random other site
[07:07] <tzapachuau> and then it goes on like this
[07:07] <bob2> tzapachuau: why don't you tell us where you got it from?
[07:07] <deepwoodz> ok when i tried to get the build essentials here wut it said
[07:07] <deepwoodz>   apt-get install build-essential
[07:07] <deepwoodz> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[07:07] <deepwoodz> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[07:07] <tzapachuau> xmms.org
[07:07] <bob2> tzapachuau: so, don't do that
[07:07] <tzapachuau> http://packages.debian.org/unstable/sound/xmms.html
[07:08] <tzapachuau> ok
[07:08] <bob2> tzapachuau: it's in ubuntu, just install it withsynaptic
[07:08] <weiorhwe> try typing xmms
[07:08] <bob2> tzapachuau: rich, which is totally wrong.  packages from debian will not work on ubuntu
[07:08] <bob2> deepwoodz: don't paste in here
[07:08] <tzapachuau> xmms: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:08] <deepwoodz> o sorry
[07:08] <MadpilotPPC> !paste
[07:08] <bob2> deepwoodz: also, that error explains the problem; run apt-get with sudo
[07:08] <ubotu> rumour has it, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[07:08] <deepwoodz> that wut it said tho, when i did wut he told me to do
[07:08] <bob2> deepwoodz: and please use english in here, not AIMish
[07:08] <deepwoodz> ok
[07:08] <deepwoodz> lol @ aimish
[07:08] <bob2> tzapachuau: you installed it wrong
[07:08] <tzapachuau> okay
[07:08] <bob2> yes, that's an example of what I mean
[07:09] <bob2> tzapachuau: install the ubuntu package
[07:09] <MadpilotPPC> I thought it was AIMglish? ;)
[07:09] <bob2> tzapachuau: sudo apt-get install xmms
[07:09] <tzapachuau> i'll try to do it with apt-get
[07:10] <tzapachuau> pasting the output
[07:10] <tzapachuau> in pastebin
[07:10] <nnonix> exit
[07:10] <bob2> thank you
[07:10] <tzapachuau> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2627
[07:10] <McScruff> lo
[07:10] <tzapachuau> should i remove again
[07:11] <bob2> tzapachuau: sudo dpkg -P xmms ; sudo apt-get install xmms
[07:11] <Bergcube> Good morning, Ubuntuers. Is there som (relatively) straight-forward way to get synaptic to restore / regenerate the original / default sources list? Yeah, I know I can edit it manually, and will if I have to. I simply wonder if there isn't an easier way for the lazy among us.
[07:11] <bob2> tzapachuau: yes, it has to be removed first
[07:11] <NsOmNiAc> can anyone help me with sharing printers under Ubuntu.. I have them installed locally but wanting to share them to other users inside the network
[07:11] <tzapachuau> ok
[07:11] <bob2> Bergcube: apt-setup
[07:11] <bob2> Bergcube: backing up config files before modifying them is a good habit to get into, tho
[07:11] <tzapachuau> so it basically means that when we install with apy-get
[07:11] <McScruff> i want to blacklist my pda, how do i do this :S
[07:11] <tzapachuau> then it will install all the libraries too
[07:11] <bob2> tzapachuau: yes
[07:12] <bob2> McScruff: how do you mean?
[07:12] <bob2> the module?
[07:12] <Bergcube> bob2~ Thank you. And, yes I agree. When I added respositories I didn't imagine I would wish to remove them. Still, it was kinda lame. Will apt-setup do /only/ that?
[07:12] <flux_> How do i install UBUNTU?
[07:12] <tzapachuau> is there any site from where i can see all the softwares which i can install with apt-get
[07:12] <flux_> Sorru..
[07:12] <bob2> flux_: download cd. burn it. boot it.
[07:12] <flux_> How do i install WINE
[07:12] <bob2> Bergcube: it will regenerate the default.
[07:13] <bob2> Bergcube: I tend to just add things at the bottom so it's easy to see what's new
[07:13] <McScruff> bob2: i want to use it in vmware, but ubuntu takes control, i want to stop this
[07:13] <bob2> tzapachuau: it's 15 000 or so packages
[07:13] <tzapachuau> i wanted to install http://www.videolan.org/vlc/index.html too
[07:13] <McScruff> bob2: its a usb device
[07:13] <crimsun> tzapachuau, vlc, too, is in universe
[07:13] <weiorhwe> tzapachuau, apt-get install vlc
[07:13] <tzapachuau> so basically i'll just try asp-get install <the packedge name>
[07:13] <weiorhwe> it's all their mang
[07:13] <Bergcube> bob2~ When it regenerates the default, does it just touch the sources file. Or will it also disappear installed packages from un-default locations?
[07:14] <tzapachuau> and see if its there
[07:14] <weiorhwe> dont
[07:14] <weiorhwe> forget sudo before apt-get
[07:14] <bob2> Bergcube: no tool would do something as dangerous as that
[07:14] <weiorhwe> apt-cache search whatever
[07:14] <tzapachuau> ok
[07:14] <weiorhwe> for searching
[07:14] <bob2> tzapachuau: apt-cache search whatever
[07:14] <fr33mind> Question: where evolution put configuration file for mail account list ??  I try to restore my evolution parameter from my user account backup.  I look in .evolution, .gnome2_private and .gconf/apps
[07:14] <Bergcube> bob2~ Then you have given me all the help I need for now!  Brilliant, thanks a lot!
[07:15] <weiorhwe> have you tried ~/Mail ?
[07:15] <Bigbeaver> Anyone fermilar with DRU stuff for X? I'm running GLXINFO in verbose mode and get the following error.  dlopen /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/r128_dri.so failed.  So it can't seem to find this file. Any idea how I can get it?
[07:15] <Bigbeaver> DRU=DRI
[07:15] <tzapachuau> doesnt xmms support mp3?
[07:15] <McScruff> it does
[07:15] <tzapachuau> any good mp3 player around
[07:15] <McScruff> i like amarok
[07:15] <weiorhwe> tzapachuau, you need the universe repositories
[07:15] <weiorhwe> amarok is excellent..
[07:16] <tzapachuau> okay
[07:16] <bob2> Bergcube: perhaps I misinterpreted you; it will remove them from the available package list, so if you remove a package from a non-default source, apt won't be able to reinstall it
[07:16] <bob2> tzapachuau: yes, xmms does
[07:16] <flux_> Where can i start Wine?
[07:16] <weiorhwe> Bigbeaver, you need to install the ATI xorg package
[07:16] <robert1123> is there a way to see what programs are available in diffrent repositories
[07:17] <weiorhwe> xserver-xorg*
[07:17] <tzapachuau> i tried to play mp3 with my xmms and then now it hangs
[07:17] <tzapachuau> lol
[07:17] <bob2> robert1123: yes
[07:17] <bob2> robert1123: but why? each ubuntu repository has > 1000 packages
[07:17] <bob2> robert1123: universe has > 10 000
[07:17] <Bergcube> bob2~ Yes, of course.  That is given.  But the already installed non-default thingamajong (for example the win32 codecs) won't be thrown out without me actively wanting to do so.  I take it?
[07:17] <bob2> tzapachuau: you need to configure it to use esound for output
[07:17] <tzapachuau> ok
[07:17] <flux_> Where do i find Repesitories?
[07:17] <weiorhwe> tzapachuau, look in preferences -> Output
[07:17] <MadpilotPPC> !tell flux_ about repositories
[07:17] <bob2> Bergcube: right
[07:18] <tzapachuau> it hangs now
[07:18] <tzapachuau> should i just kill -9 it
[07:18] <weiorhwe> yes
[07:18] <bob2> no
[07:18] <robert1123> bob2: well I am installing webmin but it is not the updated one and I want to get the updated one
[07:18] <weiorhwe> it's frozen
[07:18] <bob2> robert1123: ouch
[07:18] <robert1123> flux: /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:19] <Bergcube> bob2~ Then you understood me right; I understood you right as well.  And I am happy!
[07:19] <robert1123> bob2: yea
[07:19] <bob2> Bergcube: heh
[07:19] <weiorhwe> i love s0ciopath
[07:19] <McScruff> i cant find a  tutorial of how to add this usb device to my blacklist
[07:20] <Ninjew> Does anyone know any better id3 taggers than easytag?
[07:21] <robert1123> does any one know the repository for webmin
[07:21] <crimsun> something that uses taglib, Ninjew
[07:21] <weiorhwe> is it OSS?
[07:21] <weiorhwe> robert1123, chances are it's in universe
[07:22] <bob2> weiorhwe: robert1123 misphrased hsi question; he wants a more recent version than is in ubuntu
[07:22] <weiorhwe> oh
[07:22] <robert1123> weiorhwe: yes a more recent version.
[07:22] <weiorhwe> dunno then
[07:22] <robert1123> thanks though
[07:22] <din> gn
[07:23] <weiorhwe> ;)
[07:23] <weiorhwe> sweet dreams
[07:23] <bob2> robert1123: just get the tarball, I guess
[07:23] <bob2> any plan involving webmin is kinda doomed, anyway
[07:24] <robert1123> bob2: why do u think that
[07:24] <weiorhwe> "A web-based interface for system administration for Unix. Setup user accounts,
[07:24] <weiorhwe> DNS, file sharing and the program is freeware."
[07:24] <weiorhwe> what do you need that for?
[07:24] <weiorhwe> there used to be something on redhat like that
[07:24] <bob2> linuxconf
[07:25] <bob2> robert1123: I don't trust it to edit config files
[07:25] <weiorhwe> maybe that'd work, robert1123
[07:25] <robert1123> oh
[07:25] <robert1123> weiorhwe: linuxconf?
[07:25] <weiorhwe> yeah
[07:25] <bob2> noooooooooo
[07:25] <robert1123> bob2?
[07:25] <weiorhwe> lol
[07:26] <robert1123> bob2: no?
[07:26] <weiorhwe> i guess not
[07:26] <robert1123> yea i guess
[07:26] <bob2> linuxconf has an even worse reputation than webmin
[07:27] <weiorhwe> never found much use for it, personally
[07:27] <robert1123> bob2: is there something that you would recommend?
[07:27] <bob2> I'd recommend just editing the files yourself
[07:27] <bob2> failing that, webmin, I guess
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> linuxconf - gee - aint herd about that in ages..
[07:28] <Ninjew> god linuxconf
[07:28] <Ninjew> its so bad
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> i 'hear' people rant about webmin.. but havent really seen any real issues myself withit.. or any web sites actually discuss the program.
[07:28] <Ninjew> There is no substitute to configuring things yourself, imho
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> i use it on my single user box at times.
[07:28] <robert1123> bob2: well edited the files myself is the ideal but I dont have the time to learn all the time
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> or my little home lan.
[07:29] <robert1123> I need something quick sometimes
[07:29] <weiorhwe> configuring your system is quick once you have done it a few hundred times
[07:29] <heatxsink> weiorhwe:  yes
[07:29] <weiorhwe> :D
[07:29] <weiorhwe> i just installed ubuntu today in fact
[07:29] <robert1123> lol! that's the point I dont have time for a few hundred times at the moment
[07:30] <heatxsink> weiorhwe:  good good...
[07:30] <heatxsink> weiorhwe:  come to this side, it's much nicer
[07:30] <weiorhwe> well, i've installed it a bunch of times
[07:30] <weiorhwe> lol
[07:30] <heatxsink> are there any ubuntu user groups in the bay area?
[07:30] <B_166-ER-X> it took like a month before my ubuntu was 'just right' then i installed breezy and all crashed...had to reinstall ;)
[07:30] <weiorhwe> i switch around
[07:30] <heatxsink> hehe
[07:30] <heatxsink> that's what happened to me too
[07:30] <heatxsink> hoary..ooh nice, ahh everything configured....then ooh breezy....bAAAM
[07:31] <heatxsink> everything gone
[07:31] <B_166-ER-X> he..
[07:31] <heatxsink> but I did switch machines
[07:31] <Bigbeaver> Anyone fermilar with DRI stuff for X? I'm running GLXINFO in verbose mode and get the following error.  dlopen /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/r128_dri.so failed.  Can't seem to find the file but if I do a locate I find the r128_dri.so in /usr/lib/dri/r128_dri.so. Not sure if this is that r128 that is supposed to be with X.  I have xserver-xorg-driver-ati installed.
[07:31] <heatxsink> so in theory i bet everything would've been just fine
[07:31] <weiorhwe> yeah.. i won't be switching to breezy on the family machine until it's been out for a few months
[07:31] <B_166-ER-X> man... 'evrything gone?'     at the login screen i had a message saying that my /home didnt exist
[07:31] <weiorhwe> same thing happened to me
[07:31] <heatxsink> Bigbeaver:  shouldn't that be fglrx instead of ATI?
[07:32] <heatxsink> weiorhwe:  i found that LIRC, and some madwifi drivers don't work
[07:32] <heatxsink> cause the kernel is 2.6.12
[07:32] <weiorhwe> wifi seems to be a big pain
[07:32] <weiorhwe> not sure i'll be switching
[07:32] <heatxsink> weiorhwe:  it's not that bad if you do your homework
[07:32] <heatxsink> hehe
[07:33] <weiorhwe> one day maybe
[07:33] <heatxsink> oh man I wouldn't have it anyother way
[07:33] <heatxsink> hehe
[07:33] <B_166-ER-X> at least, wait until your system is perfectly tweaked before trying to install something new that might scramble things totally up
[07:33] <weiorhwe> i still haven't gone to 100mbps ethernet
[07:34] <weiorhwe> get yourself a hard drive imager
[07:34] <weiorhwe> then you can mess things up all you want
[07:35] <B_166-ER-X> that reminds me, i have to file a bug repport
[07:36] <weiorhwe> of course it runs netbsd!
[07:37] <flux_> MadPilotPPC, how do i install WINE?
[07:38] <weiorhwe> apt-get install wine
[07:38] <flux_> thats all?
[07:38] <weiorhwe> sudo apt-get install wine
[07:38] <MadpilotPPC> flux_, never done it myself - it is in the repos, though, like weiorhwe said...
[07:38] <weiorhwe> install the suggested packages as well
[07:38] <flux_> MadpilotPPC
[07:38] <flux_> Sorry
[07:39] <flux_> root@xp1700:/home/flux# apt-get install wine
[07:39] <flux_> Reading package lists... Done
[07:39] <flux_> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:39] <flux_> wine is already the newest version.
[07:39] <flux_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 8 not upgraded.
[07:39] <bob2> flux_: do not paste in here
[07:39] <flux_> ok..
[07:39] <bob2> flux_: and you already have wine, so just run it now
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> and this tells us? :P
[07:39] <flux_> Where do i run it?
[07:39] <tristanmike> What is the command to see my partitions please?
[07:39] <bob2> flux_: wine program.exe
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> 'use the shell luke'
[07:40] <bob2> tristanmike: there isn't one
[07:40] <weiorhwe> why are you root
[07:40] <bob2> tristanmike: aside from looking through dmsg
[07:40] <bob2> tristanmike: or fdisk -l /dev/hdwhatever
[07:40] <weiorhwe> don't run wine as root, it'll crash
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> 'fdisk -l' should show the drives on the system
[07:40] <flux_> where do i find WIne?
[07:40] <tristanmike> bob2, oh, really, wow, thanx
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> flux_,  open up a shell, type 'wine'
[07:40] <bob2> flux_: 15:39:57           bob2 | flux_: wine program.exe
[07:40] <bob2> flux_: that's hwo you run it frome a terminal
[07:40] <vik> got a strange sound-card problem: it plays at half speed. It's a VIA686 onboard chip (ac97 codec). I'm using alsa
[07:41] <bob2> tristanmike: actually, I'm wrong, sorry; what Dr_Willis said
[07:42] <flux_> bob2, bash: wine-program.exe: command not found
[07:42] <tristanmike> bob2, Dr_Willis, thanx
[07:42] <bob2> flux_: that's not what I said
[07:42] <flux_> oh..
[07:42] <flux_> Sorry... Im norwegian... NOt so good in english...
[07:43] <Jhonny> Hi, plz, how can i reinstall windows xp in dual boot (sorry i need windows for using Flash 7), without loosing my ubuntu instalation?
[07:43] <tristanmike> Dr_Willis, when I "fdisk -l" nothing happens, I just go back to the command prompt
[07:43] <weiorhwe> tristanmike, sudo
[07:43] <MadpilotPPC> cool to see that this is running now: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/
[07:43] <tristanmike> weiorhwe, thanx, shoulda known
[07:44] <flux_> What is an shell?
[07:44] <weiorhwe> program to type commands in
[07:44] <MadpilotPPC> flux_, a terminal
[07:45] <flux_> CAn i paste what i got?
[07:45] <MadpilotPPC> !tell flux_ about paste
[07:46] <graham> anyone here running ubuntu on a mac with dual-g5s
[07:47] <cafuego_> graham: Yes, nalioth.
[07:47] <paulproteus|lapt> graham: 'Fraid I'm not.  Wimpy iBook G4. ;)
[07:47] <cafuego_> graham: he may not be awake, though.
[07:48] <brainbox> any tips on aterm cut/paste to mozilla?
[07:48] <graham> well if there isn't any immediate : "Oh you dont want to do that" i think i'll have to give it a try
[07:48] <weiorhwe> brainbox, should work fine
[07:48] <graham> works great on my AMD
[07:48] <brainbox> weiorhwe: got problem pasting from aterm to mozilla..
[07:48] <brainbox> weiorhwe: same like xterm.
[07:48] <cafuego_> graham: Go with breezy (2.6.12 kernel) and it should be fine.
[07:49] <weiorhwe> using the default install?
[07:49] <brainbox> weiorhwe: yup.
[07:49] <cafuego_> And the ppc64 kernel (I believe the boot option is power4-smp)
[07:49] <graham> cafuego_: Thanks
[07:49] <brainbox> weiorhwe: can you share ur .Xdefaults?
[07:49] <weiorhwe> brainbox, i suppose.. what for?
[07:50] <flux_> I still not understand how to start wine..
[07:50] <flux_> mhm
[07:50] <flux_> hmm
[07:50] <weiorhwe> brainbox, try it via the menus too
[07:50] <weiorhwe> right click, etc
[07:50] <weiorhwe> flux_, it needs to be configured first
[07:50] <brainbox> weiorhwe: are you using aterm?
[07:50] <weiorhwe> no
[07:50] <weiorhwe> flux_, apt-get install winesetuptk
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> i normally start wine with a command like.....
[07:50] <flux_> Where do i find a shell?
[07:50] <snausages> hi all, how can i install cursor themes?
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> wine /path/to/windows/dir/sol.exe
[07:50] <brainbox> weiorhwe: what terminal are you using?
[07:50] <weiorhwe> rxvt
[07:51] <brainbox> you don't have problem copy/paste from rxvt to others apps?
[07:51] <weiorhwe> no problem
[07:51] <weiorhwe> i don't have that problem on another computer using Konsole
[07:51] <mpool> hi, any ideas on how to make Breezy disable ipv6 AAAA lookups?
[07:51] <weiorhwe> and another using xterm
[07:52] <brainbox> damn.. can't figure this out. i found that xterm has this kind of problem http://www.davidsimmons.com/soft/xtermhacks/
[07:52] <Oetzi> mpool: why do you want to disable?
[07:52] <weiorhwe> mpool, what do you mean?
[07:52] <mpool> because my nameserver ignores the queries, so DNS is very slow
[07:53] <flux_> CAn someone please help me? I are going to have a LAN, and i need to have a teamspeak, FlightSimulator server!
[07:53] <cafuego_> mpool: firefox?
[07:53] <mpool> weiorhwe: i mean that Breezy's dns resolver sends AAAA queries for IPv6 addresses, but most servers don't respond
[07:53] <mpool> cafuego_: i know about the firefox setting, but it's affecting other things too
[07:53] <mpool> such as apt and ssh
[07:54] <mpool> and since 99.9% of users don't need ipv6 it seems like a bad default
[07:54] <MadpilotPPC> flux_, if you're still looking for a shell, Application menu --> System Tools --> Terminal
[07:54] <weiorhwe> hmm, dunno
[07:54] <bob2> mpool: there's a number of bugs open about it; preventing the ipv6 module from loading was the "best" solution, iirc
[07:54] <mpool> hi bob2
[07:54] <weiorhwe> set it caching only or something
[07:54] <caustictwin> I installed mplayer-386 and got the dlls from the mplayer website however I do not know where to install the codecs to
[07:54] <cafuego_> mpool: Odd though, mine just defaults to ipv4 and is as fast as when ipv6 isn't loaded.
[07:55] <mpool> bob2: actually i don't have the module loaded and it's still doing the queries
[07:55] <mpool> none of my interfaces have ipv6 addresses
[07:55] <flux_> weiorhwe, what should i do now?
[07:55] <mpool> cafuego_: well, maybe your nameserver handles them OK?
[07:55] <mpool> cafuego_: does tcpdump show it sending AAAA queries?
[07:56] <weiorhwe> flux_, you want to run a flightsimulator server?
[07:56] <flux_> Yes, and teamspeak;)
[07:56] <cafuego_> mpool: Hold on
[07:56] <Jhonny> Hi, plz, how can i reinstall windows xp in dual boot (sorry i need windows for using Flash 7), without loosing my ubuntu instalation?
[07:56] <flux_> I need to go in a minute
[07:57] <weiorhwe> i think you would have to refer to the teamspeak website
[07:57] <flux_> yes..
[07:57] <mpool> Jhonny: use resize2fs to shrink your linux partition to make space (google for it)
[07:57] <mpool> then make a new partition for xp and install into that
[07:57] <flux_> but to use ATC Radar Screnn i have to use wine.
[07:57] <weiorhwe> ok, well.. it's not in the repositories
[07:57] <cafuego_> mpool: Nope.
[07:57] <weiorhwe> flux_, winesetuptk
[07:57] <weiorhwe> that work for you?
[07:58] <mpool> cafuego_: and you didn't change anything from the defaults?
[07:58] <mpool> wierd
[07:58] <flux_> Shall i write that in terminal?
[07:58] <weiorhwe> flux_, wine will not run most games
[07:58] <paulproteus|lapt> cafuego_: It's a matter of broken DNS servers or not.
[07:58] <Oetzi> Jhonny: or use an virtual Machine solution
[07:58] <cafuego_> mpool: No, I get an A+ and then a CNAME.
[07:58] <Kumakun> Hahaha! I'm connected through Ubuntu!
[07:58] <paulproteus|lapt> cafuego_: Broken DNS servers make it slow for users.
[07:58] <paulproteus|lapt> Kumakun: Congrats. :)
[07:58] <weiorhwe> flux_, yes
[07:58] <flux_> no, but ATC Radar Screen i think goo
[07:58] <Kumakun> I'm having a little trouble with the backports...
[07:58] <flux_> flux@xp1700:~$ winesetuptk
[07:58] <flux_> bash: winesetuptk: command not found
[07:59] <weiorhwe> flux_, sudo apt-get install winesetuptk
[07:59] <cafuego_> paulproteus|lapt: Huzzah, my dns server isn't broken!
[07:59] <weiorhwe> type that
[07:59] <Jhonny> Using Virtual machine slows down the flash, i work with flash professionally
[07:59] <weiorhwe> flash should die
[08:00] <paulproteus|lapt> cafuego_: Indeedy. :)
[08:00] <flux_> apt-get install winesetuptk
[08:00] <Jhonny> what about grub, how to recover it?
[08:00] <Oetzi> 07:59 < Jhonny> Using Virtual machine slows down the flash, i work with flash professionally so you are a poor boy
[08:00] <flux_> winesetuptk is already the newest version.
[08:00] <flux_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 8 not upgraded.
[08:00] <weiorhwe> try typing winesetuptk in the shell now flux_
[08:01] <flux_> is shell Terminal?
[08:01] <weiorhwe> yes
[08:01] <flux_> bash: winesetuptk: command not found
[08:01] <weiorhwe> lol
[08:01] <cafuego_> sudo winesetuptk
[08:02] <weiorhwe> thank you
[08:02] <mpool> cafuego_: that's strange that yours only sends A+
[08:02] <mpool> i just installed this
[08:02] <weiorhwe> flux_, try that
[08:02] <mpool> maybe there are some updates that fix it
[08:02] <cafuego_> mpool: breezy, amd64
[08:02] <cafuego_> mpool: Note, the A+ is 'host' querying the dns server; not my dns server querying another dns server.
[08:03] <paulproteus|lapt> cafuego_: The problem is that libc and host don't always do the same thing for DNS resolution.
[08:03] <paulproteus|lapt> You want to call gethostbyname() with some packet tracing.
[08:03] <mpool> ah
[08:03] <mpool> right, 'host' is different from how other apps do it
[08:03] <mpool> can you try with say telnet?
[08:03] <flux_> Done
[08:03] <flux_> Where do i start WINE now?
[08:04] <weiorhwe> in the shell, wine program.exe
[08:04] <cafuego_> Yep there we go, AAA -> A-> Response.
[08:05] <flux_> flux@xp1700:~$ wine program.exe
[08:05] <flux_> bash: wine: command not found
[08:05] <mpool> ah so it's not just me
[08:05] <weiorhwe> program.exe is an example
[08:05] <cafuego_> .2 seconds
[08:05] <weiorhwe> flux_, type which wine
[08:06] <weiorhwe> flux_, WINE is not windows
[08:10] <coobra> o/
[08:11] <ubuntu_k> ?
[08:11] <coobra> ? :P
[08:12] <ubuntu_k> hehe
[08:12] <ubuntu_k> this is my first time using IRC
[08:12] <B_166-ER-X> vi why_use_windows..........document empty;
[08:12] <ubuntu_k> on first time istalled ubuntu
[08:12] <B_166-ER-X> ubuntu_k,  ok.. :)
[08:12] <B_166-ER-X> have any problem or ?
[08:13] <ubuntu_k> I need help
[08:13] <ubuntu_k> I dont know how to install it with windows
[08:13] <B_166-ER-X> ? what do you mean ??
[08:13] <ubuntu_k> eh. ..
[08:14] <aftertaf> morning all :)
[08:14] <bur[n] er> anyone familiar with using -r disk: options with rdesktop?
[08:14] <ubuntu_k> I mean that I want to have optional to start windows or ubuntu when I start computer
[08:15] <ubuntu_k> b-166?
[08:15] <ubuntu_k> could you help me?
[08:15] <B_166-ER-X> uh
[08:15] <B_166-ER-X> well you use GRUB to do this, but you should have partitionned your HD at the install of ubuntu , did you ?
[08:16] <ubuntu_k> how to partition the disk?
[08:16] <ubuntu_k> how many partitions should I make?
[08:17] <B_166-ER-X> i dont know how to partition after installation, but somebody might.
[08:17] <B_166-ER-X> and you should need one for ubuntu and one for windows ...
[08:17] <B_166-ER-X> i have windows here too, but on another HD , so no need to partition
[08:17] <aftertaf> gparted is a gui for partitioning...
[08:17] <B_166-ER-X> much simpler if you ask me.
[08:18] <aftertaf> grub is a boot loader, you choose what you want to load with it.
[08:18] <ubuntu_k> what is gparted?
[08:18] <McScruff> has anyone managed to compile mythTV?
[08:18] <sri> anybody gotten gnome-bluetooth-manager working on breezy?
[08:18] <sri> it's supposed to giveyou feedback whenyou hit the scan menu item
[08:18] <fr33mind> Question: where evolution put configuration file for mail account list ??  I try to restore my evolution parameter from my user account backup.  I look in .evolution, .gnome2_private and .gconf/apps
[08:19] <sri> but on console it talks about various assertions failing like GTK_IS_LABEL
[08:19] <Kumakun> What exactly do I have to do to start updating my os towards breezy?
[08:19] <sri> which clearly indicates that it's failing to put up a gui.
[08:19] <aftertaf> !upgrade2breezy
[08:19] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[08:19] <aftertaf> Kumakun:  ^^^^^
[08:19] <Kumakun> Thanks. ^_^
[08:19] <aftertaf> ;)
[08:19] <aftertaf> sri:  if really broken, file a bug report....
[08:20] <sri> yeah I think I will
[08:20] <sri> there are other things that are broken
[08:21] <sri> gnome-phone-manager won't accept any pin I've defined :/
[08:21] <caustictwin> how does one play .pls files in breezy badger?
[08:22] <ubuntu_k> leave
[08:22] <vladuz976> anybody here using mutt with pop3 and knows a good guide that i could consult?
[08:23] <B_166-ER-X> 'thou who play with root, shall eventually kill the tree'
[08:23] <aftertaf_> hi honey i'm home :)
[08:24] <Dr_Willis> sri,  i had to set the pin in /etc/bluetooth/pin (i think) and restart the services.. but this was with the kde tools..
[08:24] <weiorhwe> vladuz976, the mutt help file is useful
[08:24] <weiorhwe> (really)
[08:24] <sri> Dr_Willis: yeah, I've odne all that it's something to do with bluez-pin or bluepin, neither of them work. ?/
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> i was thinking bluez-pin called bluepin
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> it wasent working.. then it worked. :P for me .  lol
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> i changed the pin from the default.
[08:25] <McScruff> please help me compile mythTV on breezy badger
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> and restarted.. BUT even then. there were some issues.
[08:25] <McScruff> i get this
[08:25] <McScruff> http://pastebin.ca/24166
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> McScruff,  why not just apt-get the binaries?
[08:25] <McScruff> i need to add a patch
[08:25] <robitaille> vladuz976, there is a small section on mutt and pop on that site: http://www.linuxnovice.org/main_software.php3?VIEW=VIEW&t_id=146
[08:25] <sri> Dr_Willis: yeah, I should try changing from the default but I doubt it will help :/
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> sri,  i THINK it may see you have the default still set - and  not like it...
[08:26] <paulproteus|lapt> McScruff: Now type 'make.
[08:26] <paulproteus|lapt> '
[08:26] <paulproteus|lapt> McScruff: $ make
[08:26] <McScruff> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> i tried the pin in the default file (1234) and it didnt work till i changed/.restarted.
[08:26] <paulproteus|lapt> McScruff: Do this:
[08:26] <paulproteus|lapt> sudo apt-get build-dep mythtv
[08:27] <vladuz976> robitaille: already saw that. didn't work for me. kept getting errors. plus it doesn't use fetchmail the guide only shows how to have mutt directly use pop
[08:27] <paulproteus|lapt> That should bring in everything you need.
[08:27] <paulproteus|lapt> "build-dep" installs only the build dependencies, not the package itself.
[08:27] <McScruff> E: Unable to find a source package for mythtv
[08:27] <paulproteus|lapt> McScruff: Have you enabled the "universe" respository?
[08:27] <paulproteus|lapt> McScruff: Do you know how to?
[08:28] <McScruff> i know how to
[08:28] <paulproteus|lapt> McScruff: If you don't understand something I say, ask.  I won't know you don't understand unless you say you don't know what I mean.
[08:28] <robitaille> vladuz976,  you use fetchmail?  Then you don't need to use pop in mutt since your mail will be in a local folder
[08:28] <paulproteus|lapt> Okay. :)
[08:28] <GNULinuxer> is it ok to upgrade to breezy now?
[08:28] <paulproteus|lapt> fetchmail++
[08:28] <vladuz976> robitaille: i guess then i need a guide on fetchmail
[08:28] <paulproteus|lapt> GNULinuxer: I'm running Breezy, and it's "fairly safe".
[08:28] <robitaille> GNULinuxer,  breezy works fine for me
[08:28] <Kumakun> Upgrading now. Hopefully this doesn't hose my install.
[08:29] <cafuego_> GNULinuxer: If you don't mind breakage, sure.
[08:29] <GNULinuxer> paulproteus|lapt: how safe is ``fairly safe'' ?
[08:29] <mpool> bob2: do you know a link for those ipv6/dns bugs?
[08:29] <paulproteus|lapt> GNULinuxer: If you're *NIX-aware enough to be using ``'', you'll be fine. ;)
[08:29] <GNULinuxer> cafuego_: breakage ? no i don't want breakage
[08:29] <cafuego_> GNULinuxer: Let me put it this way: There were 2 X releases over the past 24 hours.
[08:29] <paulproteus|lapt> GNULinuxer: Seriously, I've had no problems yet, but I dist-upgrade daily to make sure I have the freshest packages.
[08:29] <paulproteus|lapt> Which does often include X. :)
[08:30] <GNULinuxer> paulproteus|lapt: i am *NIX aware ... but i hate breakage
[08:30] <cafuego_> GNULinuxer: If you don't want breakage, wait until 2 weeks after breezy is released, then update.
[08:30] <grndslm> anybody here ever messed with the matchbox wm??
[08:30] <weiorhwe> is there a general channel on freenode?
[08:30] <GNULinuxer> cafuego_: yep, that's what I will do
[08:30] <paulproteus|lapt> weiorhwe: "General", like random chat?
[08:30] <weiorhwe> basically
[08:30] <cafuego_> 'less /dev/urandom'
[08:30] <deFrysk> weiorhwe, #freenode ?
[08:30] <cafuego_> lots of random chat.
[08:30] <MadpilotPPC> weiorhwe, there's always #ubuntu-offtopic...
[08:30] <tristanmike> !tell tristanmike about repositories
[08:31] <paulproteus|lapt> weiorhwe: Try /list in your IRC client.
[08:31] <weiorhwe> thanks
[08:31] <hans> help me with xchat
[08:31] <cafuego_> why?
[08:31] <BlueEagle> hans: What is the problem with xchat?
[08:31] <cafuego_> BlueEagle: in one word: 'xchat". ;-)
[08:32] <hans> it is rolling so fast
[08:32] <BlueEagle> cafuego_: Thankyou for that useful piece of input.
[08:32] <deFrysk> hans, we'll stop typing ;p
[08:32] <GNULinuxer> cafuego_: what's the diff. between random & urandom ?
[08:32] <[Spooky] > Anyone have any idea of how to installa the Java package when the ubuntuguide dosent work ? (i tried to download it from www.java.com and install and it didnt work)
[08:33] <cafuego_> One crahses your irc client, the other doesn't?
[08:33] <hans> it was recommended for leaning ubuntu
[08:33] <BlueEagle> hans: "rolling"? Are you trying to diable joins, parts, quits and nick displaid?
[08:33] <deFrysk> [Spooky] , first: never use ubuntuguide again
[08:34] <hans> dont know anything give a hint for self study xchat
[08:34] <dooglus> is anyone seeing strange behaviour from alt-tab in breezy?
[08:34] <dooglus> it's not drawing window borders for me any more
[08:34] <none_-> man random
[08:34] <dooglus> since yesterday's update
[08:35] <none_-> kind of interesting, actually
[08:35] <BlueEagle> hans: google? xchat.org?
[08:35] <cafuego_> dooglus: I get a 1-pixel shaded border
[08:35] <deFrysk> [Spooky] , in short : for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 
[08:35] <cafuego_> dooglus: Like the gksu password dialog does too, now.
[08:35] <dooglus> cafuego_: cafuego_ I'm talking about around the window you're about to switch to, not the icons in the middle of the screen.  you too?
[08:35] <paulproteus|lapt> deFrysk: You missed 'fakeroot'.
[08:36] <[Spooky] > deFrysk: ok let me try...
[08:36] <ak37> I think there is BlackDown java in the repos
[08:36] <hans> how do I talk to blueeagle and no one else
[08:36] <ak37> I have it installed and working
[08:36] <none_-> hans, /query blueeagle
[08:36] <cafuego_> dooglus: No, that behaves normally.
[08:37] <none_-> or /msg blueeagle
[08:37] <dooglus> cafuego_: what's normal?
[08:37] <cafuego_> dooglus: the windows border being drawn?
[08:37] <cafuego_> s/s//
[08:37] <deFrysk> [Spooky] , also install fakeroot
[08:38] <dooglus> cafuego_: oh.  wonder what I've done wrong then.  I see the border drawn for 1 frame, then it gets undrawn.  it just flickers into existance for 1/50th of a second
[08:38] <deFrysk> [Spooky] , and do fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] 
[08:38] <Myrtti> hm
[08:38] <deFrysk> and use sudo when dpkg -i
[08:39] <cafuego_> dooglus: Oh, the highlight around the actual window border, yes. That flashes in&out of exsitence.
[08:39] <dooglus> cafuego_: it shouldn't, should it?
[08:40] <bonee> in #fluxbox
[08:40] <bonee> i'm back
[08:40] <dooglus> I had a similar problem last week where the whole window I was switching to went black when I alt-tabbed to it - but that turned out to be I was missing a module in my xorg.conf.
[08:41] <IceDC571> what day is breezy supposed to be final?
[08:42] <ak37> 13th of Oct
[08:42] <[Spooky] > deFrysk: yes! it worked, thanks :) btw that *.deb is good for any user to use ?
[08:42] <IceDC571> thanks
[08:43] <deFrysk> [Spooky] , in ubuntu yes, if you wish to run azureus with it you have to put java in your path in .bashrc
[08:43] <[Spooky] > deFrysk: ok
[08:44] <deFrysk> [Spooky] , and again , use the wiki , not ubuntuguide please , its a bad/poor resource
[08:45] <dhonn> #ubuntu-dev
[08:45] <dhonn> ls
[08:45] <[Spooky] > deFrysk: ok, well the wiki is "hard to find" i think... maybe its a habbit ?
[08:45] <Kumakun> When did that change? I thought ubuntuguide used to be the endall be all?
[08:46] <deFrysk> [Spooky] , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation is your ubuntu bible
[08:47] <deFrysk> !ubuntuguide
[08:47] <Myrtti> Kumakun: when people realized that it's not that informative and explains nothing, it helps no one understand the system they're using and thus adds the risk of user borking his/her system
[08:47] <ubotu> it has been said that ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[08:47] <Ashen> yo
[08:47] <darklogic> hey everyone
[08:48] <grndslm> anybody have any experience with devil's pie??
[08:48] <Nano|9000> hi Darklogic
[08:48] <Ashen> has anyone got a working nvidia-settings in breezy?
[08:48] <Myrtti> grndslm: I tried to use it, but no luck
[08:48] <Ashen> installed from the repos
[08:48] <darklogic> how can i add a module to the kernel permanently (as opposed to modprobe'ing it every time i reboot)?
[08:48] <Myrtti> grndslm: that was long time ago, might work now
[08:48] <McScruff> does anyone know where ican get liblame-dev?
[08:49] <grndslm> myrtti, apparently the 0.13 version has changed quite a bit
[08:49] <Myrtti> grndslm: could be
[08:49] <Ashen> darklogic: you could always put the modprobe command in rc.d
[08:49] <robitaille> McScruff,   it's in the Ubuntu multiverse repository   http://packages.ubuntu.com/liblame-dev
[08:49] <McScruff> ty
[08:50] <Ashen> darklogic: or any other script that runs at startup
[08:50] <Erron> anyone know where to get libjpeg-devel source
[08:50] <darklogic> Ashen, but is that the best way?
[08:50] <Ashen> darklogic: probably not...
[08:50] <darklogic> ;)
[08:50] <ak37> darklogic: I think there is an rc.modules file
[08:50] <Ashen> darklogic: but I dont see why it would be a "bad" way :)
[08:51] <ak37> let me check it out first
[08:51] <cafuego_> Erron: apt-cache search libjpeg
[08:51] <Erron> cafuego I need the source I only find rpms
[08:51] <Erron> I need the devel source
[08:52] <ak37> darklogic: type the module name at /etc/modules
[08:52] <cafuego_> Erron: add a deb-src line in your sources.list, then 'apt-get source <packagename>'
[08:52] <ak37> it lists the kernel modules to load at boot time
[08:52] <cafuego_> Erron: Note that source and package-dev are NOT the same thing. What are you compiling anyway?
[08:52] <bob2> Erron: "devel source"? you mean the headers?
[08:52] <cafuego_> Erron: Also, apt-cache search never finds RPMs.
[08:52] <Erron> yea basicly GD isnt getting JPEG :/
[08:52] <Erron> I'm on another box atm thats why
[08:53] <darklogic> ak37, perfect. thanks very much!
[08:53] <cafuego_> Erron: gd is compiled with jpeg support.
[08:53] <bob2> Erron: why are you compiling GD at all?
[08:53] <Erron> I need it for php, I need to prefix Jpeg and then get GD to compile with it
[08:53] <Erron> for distribution
[08:53] <Erron> or else I would use /usr
[08:53] <cafuego_> Erron: install php4-gd
[08:54] <cafuego_> Erron: It's all pre-built.
[08:54] <bob2> Erron: wtf
[08:54] <bob2> Erron: php in ubuntu also has gd and jpeg support
[08:54] <Erron> no bob lol I need this for not just ubuntu
[08:54] <Erron> this is for a project I need to distribute
[08:54] <Erron> and I need the stuff contained in the package
[08:55] <bob2> Erron: so, stop whatever you're doing
[08:55] <bob2> Erron: and explain what on earth your goal here is
[08:55] <cafuego_> Why would any sane human run precompiled 3rd party code?
[08:55] <Erron> its a software.. company needs it
[08:55] <bob2> Erron: and the software is written in php?
[08:55] <Erron> yes
[08:55] <Erron> mostly
[08:55] <Erron> frontend and some backend
[08:56] <cafuego_> So why can't the company install the gd module for php?
[08:56] <bob2> so what does this have to do with compiling php?
[08:56] <cafuego_> Coz compiling it on ubuntu will result in a module they probably can't load anyway.
[08:56] <Erron> cafuego I can compile gd module.. I just need to put the jpeg in a specific folder
[08:56] <Erron> cause I'm doing it static
[08:56] <bob2> no
[08:57] <bob2> this plan is broken
[08:57] <Erron> well it is how I need to do it
[08:57] <bob2> any plan involving compiling php statically is broken
[08:57] <Erron> It is already working ..
[08:57] <bob2> Erron: *why* do you think you need to compile php?
[08:57] <Erron> because I am told to do so
[08:57] <cafuego_> Erron: What apache/php and Distro does the target machine run?
[08:57] <Erron> its not just 1 target
[08:57] <Erron> this is for distribution
[08:57] <mpool> bob2: do you have a reference to those bugs about ipv6?
[08:58] <Erron> so I have to assume its people with minimal install
[08:58] <Erron> thats why everything has to be contained and runs out of our dir
[08:58] <Erron> dont wanna have conflict with other peoples system files or add any there
[08:58] <cafuego_> Erron: Then you package your software up and add a README saying "You need 1) PHP 2) GD with libjpeg". You can check this in php with "function_exists('imagejpeg')"
[08:59] <Erron> cafuego no it has to work out of the package
[08:59] <Erron> its a commercial product
[08:59] <Erron> I cant make users go and compile/install stuff
[08:59] <cafuego_> Erron: Then I'm sorry, but I can't help you.
[08:59] <bob2> mpool: no, sorry; it's either closed or bugzilla search is missing it.
[08:59] <Erron> I'm asking about jpeg not how to package
[08:59] <mpool> yep
[08:59] <cafuego_> Yes, sorry.
[08:59] <bob2> Erron: has someone checked whether you have permission to distribute this combined work?
[08:59] <Erron> yes..
[09:00] <Erron> this product is already on windows
[09:00] <Erron> i'm just assigned to put the php on lin
[09:00] <Erron> thats all
[09:00] <hans> Er der nogen dansktalende?
[09:01] <Erron> trust me I'm not having much fun lol I would do it much easier ways
[09:01] <Erron> but I'm told to do it a certain way so :o
[09:01] <cafuego_> Erron: Did you consider telling your manager he's a moron? (Diplomatically?)
[09:01] <Kumakun> Well....the update is still installing....so far it hasn't exploded...
[09:01] <Erron> cafuego the CEO actually
[09:02] <Erron> heh he's the programmer/owner so no I dont think so
[09:02] <cafuego_> Erron: Did you? Can I? :-)
[09:02] <Erron> lol
[09:02] <cafuego_> Probably  aredhat user too
[09:02] <StarKruzr> hi guys.  anyone know if I should be expecting things not to work when trying to compile a 2.4.19 kernel on my nice pretty new breezy-badger install?  It errors out on make bzImage and complains about an array in processor.h.
[09:02] <Quequeg> Erron, AFAIK, Only Oracle successfully gets away with what you're suggesting.
[09:02] <Erron> actually I have to get this thing working soon I need to test it on ibm platforms
[09:02] <Quequeg> And you're probably not working for Oracle.
[09:03] <Erron> they are partners with them
[09:03] <Erron> so..
[09:03] <cafuego_> Erron: Well, in the unlikely even this enterprise actually works, you'll want the libjpeg source. Use 'apt-get source'
[09:03] <Erron> I have the libjpeg sourcre
[09:03] <Erron> source* its just not compiling right when I prefix
[09:03] <cafuego_> All IBM employees I know would refuse to run a statically precompiled php from an unknown source.
[09:03] <bob2> I'm pretty sure you can't compile php4 on ubuntu so that it will work with arbitrary versions of apache
[09:03] <Erron> no .h/so/a nothing made
[09:03] <Erron> only 2 folder bin and man/man1
[09:04] <meeer> hi.. can anyone plss help me ... how to access g++ i have installed it but dont know how to open it :)
[09:04] <Erron> and we arnt using apache btw
[09:04] <cafuego_> And if they didn't, they'd ptobably lsoe their jobs <heh>
[09:04] <bob2> meeer: open it? you type 'g++' at the terminal to run it.
[09:04] <Erron> cafuego its not an unknown source
[09:04] <meeer> bob2: thanks lemme try
[09:05] <Erron> they give access through partnership.. and you develop product to work on their platform its their new chiphopper crap
[09:05] <bob2> Erron: I still don't see why you're compiling libjpeg
[09:05] <Erron> because our app requires GD with its support
[09:05] <bob2> Erron: even if you really want a static libjpeg, ubuntu has that already
[09:05] <meeer> bon2: g++: no input files
[09:05] <Erron> this isnt just ubuntu bob2 I just ask incase anyone here might know where to get the dev source
[09:05] <bob2> meeer: er, of course, you need to tell it what to compile
[09:05] <Erron> cause i only found rpms
[09:05] <Erron> its ok I'll figure it out thanks anyways
[09:05] <bob2> Erron: "dev source" is not a sensible phrase
[09:06] <mpool> meeer: typically "g++ -o hello hello.cc"
[09:06] <bob2> Erron: you really reall yreally need to define what you're trying to do more strictly
[09:06] <meeer> thats
[09:06] <Erron> bob2 if you saw my actual question from the start
[09:06] <squizzee> hello
[09:06] <Erron> I did state so
[09:06] <bob2> Erron: if it's "create a statically-linked php4 command line program", you're going about it all wrong
[09:07] <Erron> IT has been working
[09:07] <Erron> the only prob is moving it shared lib prob
[09:07] <meeer> mpool: am a very newb in linux.. it says no file o directory found..
[09:07] <carrarro> How do I do to install an application downloaded from the web. It came in like a ZIP file...
[09:07] <Erron> thats the only reason why I need it prefix'd
[09:07] <Erron> other then that its working perfectly fine
[09:07] <mpool> meeer: what do you want to do with g++
[09:07] <mpool> it's a compiler
[09:07] <_Otaviano_> 
[09:07] <_Otaviano_> Traduo Babel Fish   	Ajuda
[09:07] <_Otaviano_> In English:
[09:07] <_Otaviano_> where I obtain to driver for modem USR WINMODEM
[09:07] <mpool> you need some source to compile
[09:07] <_Otaviano_> where I obtain to driver for modem USR WINMODEM
[09:07] <mpool> are you trying to compile something you downloaded or are you trying to learn c++?
[09:08] <meeer> want to write c++
[09:08] <meeer> something like turbo c++
[09:08] <mpool> meeer: g++ is just the compiler
[09:08] <bob2> Erron: no, you don't need the libjpeg source at all then
[09:08] <mpool> like TCC.EXE or whatever it was called
[09:08] <meeer> ok got it..
[09:08] <mpool> mm
[09:08] <bob2> Erron: just compile php against it statically
[09:09] <Erron> you mean with --with-jpeg- right?
[09:09] <mpool> you can install Anjuta if you want a graphical environment
[09:09] <meeer> so is there anything like a package to write c++
[09:09] <Erron> and use --enable-static=yes
[09:09] <mpool> do you have a c++ tutorial or something?
[09:09] <carrarro> but is there a Integrated Development Environment for C++ in Ubuntu?
[09:09] <meeer> thanks
[09:09] <bob2> carrarro: there's anjuta and motor
[09:09] <bob2> carrarro: most people seem to use vim or emacs, tho
[09:09] <mpool> carrarro: i think Anjuta is such
[09:09] <mpool> or Kdevelop
[09:09] <Erron> bob2 yea but jpeg itself doesnt compile correctly into folder so I cant run php against it
[09:09] <carrarro> I downloaded  Anjuta, but I don't know how to install it.
[09:10] <mpool> but i think 95+% of linux programmers use vim or emacs
[09:10] <Erron> only way that its working right now is If I use /usr and then the comp has to have libjpeg installed to work
[09:10] <meeer> is vim or emacs gui
[09:10] <mrchicago> heh
[09:11] <mpool> kind of
[09:11] <carrarro> I tryed following the instructions in the readme file, but I couldn't get it to work
[09:12] <bob2> Erron: dude
[09:12] <bob2> Erron: install libjpeg62-dev.  tell php to compile statically.  the entire point of static compilation is that it does not use external libs at runtime.
[09:13] <mpool> carrarro: have you tried "sudo apt-get install anjuta" ?
[09:13] <mpool> meeer: so what i suggest you do is
[09:13] <mpool> "emacs ~/hello.c"
[09:13] <mpool> write some code into that, save it
[09:13] <mpool> then
[09:13] <mpool> "gcc -o hello hello.c"
[09:13] <meeer> thanks
[09:13] <carrarro> no, I'll try that.
[09:13] <mpool> "./hello"
[09:14] <mrchicago> heh if only my sdl stuff would work
[09:14] <StarKruzr> what happened to a.out, anyway
[09:14] <meeer> thanks guys// bye for now
[09:14] <carrarro> mpool: Do I need to specify a path?
[09:15] <mpool> carrarro: no
[09:15] <mpool> meeer: good luck!
[09:15] <carrarro> mpool: It didn't do it.
[09:15] <mpool> didn't do what?
[09:16] <carrarro> mpool: E: coudn't find Package anjuta
[09:16] <aftertaf> linner: sort of connected again.... 8-)
[09:16] <mpool> ah, might have to enable universe
[09:16] <The_Vox> carrarro: you need universe
[09:16] <carrarro> How do I enable universe?
[09:17] <The_Vox> !repos
[09:17] <ubotu> it has been said that repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[09:17] <The_Vox> carrarro: follow the two links
[09:17] <carrarro> okay...
[09:17] <The_Vox> read the first one to understand what you have to do, the second one has the URLs you need
[09:18] <carrarro> thank you.
[09:18] <The_Vox> np
[09:19] <brion> Anybody had the Breezy preview 1 installer fail trying to copy pptp-linux_1.5.0-5_i386.deb? I've got a matching md5sum on the .iso image and on the cdrom in the drive, but get a 'No such file or directory' error doing an ls in /cdrom/pool/main/p/pptp-linux which is a bit odd
[09:19] <mrchicago> im having trouble with kseti
[09:19] <mrchicago> and mysql
[09:21] <brion> well, we'll see if i can continue install without those pesky packages :)
[09:26] <hettar> Anyone know where I can get a libdvdcss package for breezy ?
[09:27] <deFrysk> !info libdvdcss
[09:28] <zack_> lmao
[09:28] <deFrysk> hettar, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-ae79fed9d60ccdf06f400ae76ad53867d94bb2b8
[09:28] <hettar> thanks
[09:28] <zack_> how u guys doing ! :)
[09:28] <BlueEagle> mrchicago: Getting an error messages? Not installing probably? Is this a personal or political issue?
[09:28] <BlueEagle> properly*
[09:32] <mrchicago> just that it cannot compile
[09:33] <mrchicago> libsdl is installed
[09:33] <Lichte> who does GNUstep stuff for ubuntu ?
[09:34] <mrchicago> just dont know why it isnt compiling
[09:34] <bob2> no one, really
[09:34] <bob2> mrchicago: mysql is already in ubuntu, there's no need to compile it
[09:35] <BlueEagle> mrchicago: Why are you compiling packages when there are pre-compiled binaries for your distribution?
[09:35] <BlueEagle> (not sure about kseti though=
[09:36] <BlueEagle> Why is my synaptic suddenly in danish and not norwegian btw? o.O
[09:37] <carrarro> The_Vox: thanks for the guidance. I now acces to it.
[09:37] <carrarro> The_Vox: Anjuta I mean.
[09:37] <BlueEagle> well, partly in danish anyways.
[09:37] <mrchicago> i was talking about trying to program in sdl
[09:38] <BlueEagle> mrchicago> im having trouble with kseti
[09:38] <mrchicago> and i was trying to get mythgame to work along with kseti
[09:38] <Lichte> if I compile a .deb source, is there a way to set the compiler flags ?
[09:38] <bob2> Lichte: edit debian/rules
[09:38] <bob2> Lichte: or the makefile
[09:38] <mrchicago> what about transcode
[09:38] <bob2> Lichte: it depends.  what option would you want to change?
[09:38] <Lichte> bob2: ok
[09:39] <Skid> anyone able to lend me a hand with GPG?
[09:39] <mrchicago> any idea where i can find it as a repository for ubuntu
[09:39] <Lichte> bob2: I'm on a Via C3 processor
[09:39] <Skid> bit of a complex situation, so :)
[09:39] <goliath_> Hello, does somebody know, is there mc binaries, which can work with UTF-8 ?
[09:39] <bob2> Skid: bes to just ask your question
[09:39] <Lichte> bob2: I'd like to change -mmmx and -m3dnow and -march=c3
[09:39] <bob2> mrchicago: it's in breezy.  if you're using hoary, you can wait a couple of weeks.
[09:39] <BlueEagle> mrchicago: is kseti a kde front end for seti@home (ie. not tkseti)
[09:39] <bob2> Lichte: does that really help a noticable amount?
[09:39] <bob2> Lichte: you'll want to look at pentium-builder, too
[09:40] <Lichte> bob2: quite, yes
[09:40] <mrchicago> yes
[09:40] <Lichte> ok
[09:40] <Lichte> thanks
[09:40] <mrchicago> ok
[09:40] <mrchicago> i guess ill have to wait then
[09:40] <mrchicago> for the new iso to come out
[09:40] <Skid> well, I generated two GPG keys by mistake with the same email address, lets say key id 1, and 2.  I then canceled key id 1, (revoked) and sent the key back to the server, so I have #2 wokring now.  I went to add another email address to my key, and it added it to the #1 key id. (as per --list-keys) so how can I remove that from that id, and put it on the #2, and then get rid of all traces off the harddrive of key #1
[09:41] <bob2> Skid: removing key #1 from your hard drive is a bad idea
[09:41] <goliath_> does somebody know, is there mc binaries, which can work with UTF-8 ? I've tried mc from Debian Sarge, and it doesn't :(
[09:42] <bob2> Skid: the public bit will never leave the keyservers, and you'll just have no access to it
[09:42] <Skid> bob2: but if I add any other stuff to key #1, it'll add to it
[09:42] <Skid> er
[09:42] <Skid> #2
[09:42] <bob2> Skid: ?
[09:42] <Skid> like i wanted to add my uni email address to my key
[09:42] <bob2> Skid: gpg --edit-key <key2id>
[09:42] <Skid> hmm
[09:43] <Ce^ITS> im sorry
[09:43] <ekimus> hi, i'm searching for an application that keeps track of the time i spend on a project (don't wanna set up something in OOo - no time) any hints packages like these? (would be perfect if it has been ported to windows already)
[09:44] <bob2> ekimus: gtimelog
[09:44] <mort> it's called "a wife" she will remind you every day how many hours you spend on your project instead with her ;)
[09:45] <heatxsink> has anyone else had problems with a PC-Card to CF Card reader?
[09:45] <Erron> hey bob I used /usr and compiled it static but when ldd php it says it's looking for the libjpeg in /usr still.. so if someone doesnt have it installed will it still work
[09:45] <ekimus> mort: yes but the filtering options with "wife" aren't that good, "it" only remembers whenever she was bored and not all the statistics...
[09:46] <Erron> also i got the stuff to run on other version of fc/rh but on ubuntu it said libidn lib shared prob that doesnt come with ubuntu?
[09:46] <bob2> Erron: nope
[09:46] <bob2> Erron: remember you're basically doomed, since static binaries don't really exist on linux anymore
[09:47] <bob2> Erron: I'd try asking on #php for advice on how to compile it
[09:47] <loststryk> how can i get ubuntu to recompile gftp with openssl ?
[09:47] <Erron> yea I've been doin that for past 2 weeks :P
[09:47] <bob2> the simplest solution is for people to not bother using ftp/ssl
[09:47] <Ce^ITS> :p
[09:47] <bob2> use rsync or sftp like jeebus intended
[09:47] <loststryk> yeah but some ftp daemons like drftpd require auth tls...
[09:48] <bob2> wow, that's really useless
[09:48] <loststryk> i dont really want to go back to windows....
[09:48] <Skid> nope, it still tries to edit the key that is revoked
[09:48] <bob2> if you insist on it, "apt-get source gftp", edit debian/rules, and "dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -s"
[09:48] <bob2> Skid: show us the exact output in #flood
[09:48] <ek0> excuse my ignorance, i have just installed ubuntu for the first time ! and during the installation it doesn't even mention the root password ! is there a default root password for it ?
[09:49] <bob2> ek0: no, it explains exactly what the deal with root is
[09:49] <bob2> ek0: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[09:49] <ek0> thanks bob2
[09:51] <loststryk> cant find a source package for gftp
[09:52] <crimsun> apt-cache showsrc gftp
[09:52] <ek0> bob2, i'm just checking, but basically i have to do everything that needs "root" previlidges by sudo. right ?
[09:53] <bob2> ek0: that's the default, yes
[09:53] <loststryk> re-intalling widnows later today then by the looks of it :(
[09:53] <bob2> loststryk: perhaps you didn't uncomment the deb-src lines in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[09:56] <crimsun> ridiculous.
[09:56] <Myrtti> lovely
[09:57] <jc-denton> i still have problemes with the locales on breezy
[09:58] <jc-denton> if i set them to utf-8 gtk apps will run w/o bitching
[09:58] <jc-denton> but the output of some commands like pstree is fucked
[09:58] <crimsun> jc-denton, what if you use LANG=C pstree ?
[10:00] <linner> sorry
[10:00] <linner> :)
[10:00] <jc-denton> crimsun: there is no locale which is called C i think
[10:00] <jc-denton> same prob
[10:01] <crimsun> jc-denton, but does prefacing pstree with LANG=C resolve the issue?
[10:01] <kemik> crimsun:  what is LANG=C really ?
[10:02] <jc-denton> lol
[10:02] <kemik> got that setting on a unix box where i got account
[10:02] <jc-denton> when i run it as user it does
[10:02] <jc-denton> not as root
[10:02] <jc-denton> wtf
[10:02] <bob2> kemik: it means "screw this locale thing, pretend we're a unix in the US in 1975"
[10:02] <jc-denton> ah nope
[10:03] <jc-denton> when i run it inside screen it does not work
[10:03] <kemik> bob2:  .. oh.. "great" :)
[10:03] <jc-denton> but that's a screen issue i think
[10:03] <bob2> jc-denton: screen needs to be put in utf-8 mode
[10:03] <jc-denton> crimsun: so i just export LANG=C in my zshrc and stuff is fixed?
[10:03] <crimsun> jc-denton, see what bob2 stated
[10:03] <jc-denton> bob2: nope
[10:04] <jc-denton> LANG=C screen works here
[10:04] <crimsun> jc-denton, I only do LANG=C on a per-app basis
[10:04] <jc-denton> crimsun: why
[10:04] <jc-denton> i need something which works for every app
[10:04] <mrchicago> heh
[10:04] <stan|uni> While logging off, there are no checkboxes in the appearing window, so i have to guess where they are supposed to be. Anyone knows this problem?
[10:05] <bob2> LANG=C isn't a fix for anything
[10:05] <bob2> it's a temporary workaround
[10:05] <jc-denton> hrmm yes
[10:05] <jc-denton> i want a fix
[10:05] <jc-denton> :D
[10:05] <bob2> then figure out if it's pstree, your terminal's or screen's fault
[10:06] <jc-denton> if screen is started with LANG=C then it works
[10:06] <jc-denton> basically i switched my default locale to en_US-iso.something
[10:07] <jc-denton> then i started to get some error msgs from gtk apps
[10:07] <bob2> don't do that
[10:07] <crimsun> if an app won't work with UTF-8, it needs to be beaten into shape
[10:08] <jc-denton> crimsun: well
[10:08] <jc-denton> it's just like this
[10:08] <jc-denton> i can't switch to utf-8 if apps doesn't work
[10:09] <jc-denton> so when will it be fixed?
[10:10] <bob2> jc-denton: so
[10:10] <trigger_ph> hello...need help. i'm still having problems connecting to google talk via jabber.."server does not use supported authentication methods"...i'm on ubuntu, hoary release..gaim v.1.5.0
[10:10] <bob2> I'm using en_AU.UTF-8
[10:10] <bob2> and pstree works smashingly
[10:11] <bob2> even inside screen
[10:11] <nerdy2> i'm using en_US.UTF-8 and pstree works fine
[10:11] <jc-denton> with LANG=C?
[10:11] <jc-denton> lol
[10:11] <jc-denton> i have breezy
[10:11] <nerdy2> i'm on breezy
[10:11] <jc-denton> ok
[10:12] <bob2> me too
[10:12] <jc-denton> what does echo $LANG say
[10:12] <jc-denton> ?
[10:12] <bob2> jc-denton: are you using xterm?
[10:12] <nerdy2> en_US.UTF-8  [as i said before]  :)
[10:12] <jc-denton> nope aterm
[10:12] <Oetzi> hi
[10:12] <bob2> jc-denton: use xterm
[10:12] <jc-denton> ok it works on xterm
[10:12] <jc-denton> but not on aterm
[10:13] <Oetzi> bob2: using xterm is no solution for me
[10:13] <bob2> right
[10:13] <bob2> so aterm is crap
[10:13] <bob2> Oetzi: why?
[10:13] <jc-denton> no
[10:13] <bob2> yes
[10:13] <jc-denton> it worked on debian aterm
[10:13] <Oetzi> because there is the same error-message
[10:13] <crimsun> there are a bevy of terminal emulators that can handle UTF-8 and are a bit slimmer than xterm, jc-denton
[10:13] <bob2> jc-denton: with a utf-8 locale?
[10:14] <bob2> Oetzi: what error message?
[10:14] <n00bster> hello, i have mounted my drives, but i want them to show on desktop, how it's don?
[10:14] <jc-denton> not sure
[10:14] <jc-denton> but i never had this problem
[10:14] <mrchicago> will i be able to just update everything with the new iso or do i have to reinstall
[10:14] <Oetzi> and GTK-App: locale not supported by Xlib
[10:14] <bob2> jc-denton: there you go
[10:14] <twibbler> so a real load of updates for breezy todya ....
[10:14] <bob2> Oetzi: and the output of "locale" was...
[10:14] <trigger_ph> brb
[10:14] <bob2> mrchicago: of course you can updated
[10:14] <Oetzi> my locale is de_DE@euro
[10:15] <jc-denton> 10:12 < Oetzi> and GTK-App: locale not supported by Xlib
[10:15] <jc-denton> yes
[10:15] <jc-denton> if u take utf u will get rid of this error
[10:15] <n00bster> hello, i have mounted my drives, but i want them to show on desktop, how it's don?
[10:15] <bob2> Oetzi: there you go then
[10:15] <bob2> Oetzi: use a utf-8 locale
[10:15] <jc-denton> but u should be able to use non-utf stuff w/o strange errors too..
[10:16] <bob2> yes, but no one cares about non-C non-utf-8 locales anymore
[10:16] <Oetzi> i can't use utf-8 because of geting problems with my server-interactions
[10:16] <n00bster> need some assistance here.... :)
[10:16] <jc-denton> well there are no c locales
[10:16] <jc-denton> bob2: well i never had problemes with that iso locales
[10:17] <jc-denton> so why should i care about utf
[10:17] <Oetzi> so I'm wrking with POSIX C for now
[10:17] <Oetzi> and wait for a bugfix
[10:17] <bob2> n00bster: looks like no one knows
[10:18] <bob2> n00bster: try asking on the mailing list, perhaps
[10:18] <Myrtti> hm
[10:18] <n00bster> :)
[10:18] <jc-denton> Oetzi: so u just set LANG=C
[10:18] <linner> s
[10:18] <Nermal> n00bster: what was the question ?
[10:18] <n00bster> i have mounted my drives, but i want them to show on desktop, how it's don?
[10:18] <Nermal> use gconf-editor ?
[10:18] <Jowi> hi all
[10:19] <Oetzi> yes i did it yesterday and it works fine for know
[10:19] <Nermal> n00bster: just open the Computer place and drag the drive to the desktop
[10:19] <Oetzi> but as bob2 said it is only a temporary solution
[10:19] <atha> n00bster: gconf-editor - apps - nautilus - desktop - volumes visible
[10:20] <n00bster> hm..  whare can i find gconf?
[10:20] <Nermal> in the gnome menu
[10:21] <Oetzi> mmh is there no xlock on breezy?
[10:21] <n00bster> i use breeze, and do not have a naulituls menuw
[10:21] <Nermal> applications -> system
[10:21] <atha> applications - system tools - configuration editor
[10:21] <n00bster> maybe - configuration editor ?
[10:22] <atha> or simply pressing alt-f2 and running gconf-editor
[10:22] <atha> whatever you prefer
[10:23] <n00bster> hm... volumes_visible - is on !
[10:24] <Nermal> n00bster: click / drag from nautilus
[10:24] <crimsun> ugh
[10:24] <Nermal> as suggested in the first place
[10:25] <n00bster> from the path taht thay are mounted ?
[10:25] <jc-denton> humm
[10:25] <jc-denton> well thx4info anyway
[10:25] <jc-denton> but i would really be happy if this bug would be fixed soon
[10:26] <bob2> bah
[10:26] <n00bster> what do i need to click&drag from nautilus ?
[10:28] <n00bster> can you tell me what i need do drag from nautilus ?
[10:28] <n00bster> can you tell me what i need do drag from nautilus ?
[10:29] <ompaul> n00bster, we say you the first time - there are 484 people in the channel please wait for a reply :)
[10:29] <bob2> I'm not sure that asking over and over will help
[10:29] <ompaul> s/say/saw/
[10:29] <bob2> presumably you should drage the icon for the drive
[10:29] <n00bster> ok, sry.
[10:29] <Nermal> n00bster: *sigh*
[10:30] <bzimage> hello all
[10:30] <bzimage> :)
[10:31] <Nermal> lo bzimage :)
[10:31] <max_> hallo zusammen, guten morgen
[10:31] <volvoguy> my friends, i have good news that i never could have predicted. i had almost given up on my one 250Gb ext3 partitioned drive with bad blocks and superblock, but i tried someone's suggestion here of "Phoneix Linux" recovery software and the dang thing read every single byte of data off the drive. i was blown away.
[10:31] <bzimage> volvoguy, good!
[10:31] <bzimage> :)
[10:32] <Nermal> volvoguy: are you in nigeria ? :)
[10:32] <volvoguy> i'm happy. i just had to share. :-)
[10:32] <volvoguy> Nermal, no... detroit, michigan, usa.
[10:32] <ompaul> Nermal, for the 419th time no he is not
[10:32] <Nermal> :)
[10:33] <n00bster> ok, i mange to fix this on myself :)
[10:33] <n00bster> managed*
[10:34] <Nermal> you could have just used our advice :)
[10:34] <ompaul> n00bster, great
[10:36] <n00bster> it's quite satisfying to finally figure yore way in Linux (the little that i can) ')
[10:39] <hutgyrr> im after coming in this morning and my ubuntu box is chugging away that I cant do anything with it. The hard disk activity is through the roof. However, I just left it last night burning a DVD and theres just a terminal windows open
[10:39] <hutgyrr> how can I troubleshoot it?
[10:42] <johnnybezak> hey guys
[10:43] <Jowi> hutgyrr, run "top" in that terminal to see what is happening....
[10:44] <Jowi> hutgyrr, you will mostly see CPU activity but generally they are connected
[10:46] <hutgyrr> nautilus is the most resource heavy, it appears to be using 90% of mem but only 3% of CPU
[10:46] <dmacdonald111> Hi all.
[10:47] <ompaul> hutgyrr, is it doing anything else other than IRC at the moment?
[10:47] <hutgyrr> im not IRC'ing from this box
[10:47] <ompaul> hutgyrr, is it doing anything useful at the moment?
[10:47] <dmacdonald111> I've found that I need to use bcmwl5 with ndiswrapper to get my wireless network working, but I am unable to find the files anywhere. Does anyone have any suggestions where I can get it from?
[10:48] <Skid> http://nicolas.bonifas.free.fr/inspiron/bcmwl5.inf
[10:48] <Jowi> hutgyrr, there are also tools for monitoring SMART enabled harddisks. a quick google search will give you this: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6983
[10:49] <dmacdonald111> Thank you Skid. I am guessing that I have to compile this first before using it?
[10:50] <Jowi> hutgyrr, maybe your system is clearing the cache after that 6Gb dvd
[10:50] <Skid> no, its an inf file, I think you point ndiswrapper towards it (chek the wiki for broadcom, im sure i saw it there - or search the forums..)
[10:51] <hutgyrr> well that DVD was burned over 12hours ago and its doing nothing useful
[10:52] <Jowi> hutgyrr, yeah that sounds abit suspicious :)
[10:53] <cerius> hi
[10:53] <n00bster> question:  I'm trying to make new DIR, or to change permissions on my HDA from the interface
[10:53] <n00bster> but this options are grayed out. allthow i have assigned my user to root group in users & groups menu. (and rebooted). how can i fix this ?
[10:53] <cerius> wat ist the german ubuntu room name?
[10:54] <cafuego_> !de
[10:54] <ubotu> methinks de is #ubuntu-de bitte.
[10:54] <Jowi> cerius, ubuntu-de
[10:54] <cafuego_> Dort macht man alles auf Deutsch.
[10:55] <cerius> ok danke
[10:55] <cafuego_> Und das finder die Hollnder hier ganz ekelhaft.
[10:57] <talios> 'lo crimsun
[10:57] <crimsun> 'lo mark
[10:57] <Chameleon22> i am getting an error message from xine: source seems to be encrypted when i try to play a dvd i bought and it plays fine in a normal dvd player... ideas?
[10:57] <johnnybezak> hey guys I'm thinking of backing up my home dir to my server how often do you think would be a sensible idea? what should i use rsync?
[10:58] <cafuego_> Chameleon22: you need libdvdcss2. Install libdvdread3 and check /us/share/doc/libdvdread3/exampels. There should be a shell script, run that using sudo.,
[10:58] <Jowi> n00bster, the permissions for the drives that get mounted at boot is decided in the file /etc/fstab. to make a long story short, if you want to be able to write to that disk - you will need to edit this file. easiest way to help is if you post /etc/fstab to the pastebin
[10:58] <Jowi> ubotu, tell n00bster about pastebin
[10:58] <Chameleon22> johnnybezak, how often does your data change lo, rsync over ssh is a very nice way yes
[10:58] <hutgyrr> ok, I killed nautilus and im back to normal again
[10:58] <Chameleon22> cafuego, thank you, will try
[10:59] <wezzer> does anyone know when openoffice 2.0 will be released as a non-beta?
[10:59] <johnnybezak> Chameleon22: not *lots* just usual music/pictures etc. how do I do the rsync over ssh?\
[10:59] <Jowi> :)
[10:59] <ph8> konqueror's SIGSEV'ing on breezy when i try to start it
[10:59] <ph8> how would i go about reinstalling it? i can't deselect it as that would remove kdebase as well..?
[11:00] <crimsun> ph8: did you dist-upgrade from hoary? If so, have you rebooted since?
[11:00] <ph8> yes and yes
[11:00] <hutgyrr> what could nautilus possibly have been doing though?
[11:00] <crimsun> ph8: someone in #kubuntu may know more
[11:00] <ph8> sorry thought i was there :p
[11:01] <crimsun> you are, I just rejoined
[11:01] <Jowi> hutgyrr, really good question. i stopped using it. installed rox-filer instead. lacking some features, sure, but it is fast and is not doing stuff in the background
[11:01] <crimsun> apologies if you've already asked
[11:01] <ph8> thought i was talking on there :p
[11:01] <ph8> in the meantime, how can i access //HUB/ on my windows network
[11:02] <hutgyrr> mount -t smbfs //HUB/Share -o username=user,password=pass
[11:03] <ph8> ty
[11:03] <ph8> where will that mount it to though?
[11:03] <ninjafury> hi, first time running linux and need some help. I've installed breezy (AMD 64) on my pc, and after its set up, xorg wont set up. Now its been auto disabled, and all i get is "assuming drive cache:write through" being constantly printed to my screen... can anyone help?
[11:03] <hutgyrr> oh yeah actually after //HUB/share /mnt/windowsshares
[11:04] <ph8> hmm
[11:04] <ph8> errors
[11:04] <hutgyrr> have you smbfs installed
[11:04] <ph8> heh no, just 'samba'
[11:05] <ph8> i specified an invalid share name?
[11:05] <ninjafury> is the "assuming drive cache" msg an error, or has it just frozen up?
[11:05] <ph8> mount -t smbfs //HUB/ /mnt/HUB
[11:05] <hutgyrr> whats the error
[11:05] <concept10> !xorg
[11:05] <ubotu> it has been said that xorg is sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:05] <Chameleon22> johnnybezak, you there ?
[11:06] <concept10> ninjafury, try to do that
[11:06] <ninjafury> i've tried the xorg config, but it always just fails
[11:06] <Chameleon22> pm me if you still interested i am kind of all over the place so easier to chat in private so i can keep track better
[11:06] <concept10> ninjafury, have you tried to reconfigure?
[11:06] <reter> having printer problems
[11:06] <concept10> with different settings?
[11:07] <ninjafury> yeah i have, i manually put in my monitor info (sync rates and all that) but it still wont start X
[11:07] <reter> i finally got ubuntu to install my printer driver but my printer is printing inlegible documents
[11:07] <Nermal> perhaps mentioning what printer you have could be useful ?
[11:07] <hutgyrr> * //HUB/ isn't a share name nyway
[11:07] <ninjafury> and now all i get on my screen is "sdc: assuming drive cache: write through" all the time
[11:08] <ph8> 'a share'?
[11:08] <reter> brother mfc 7150C
[11:08] <concept10> ninjafury, that doesnt have anything to do with xorg
[11:08] <ph8> i just want to access all shared docs on the HUB machine on this network
[11:08] <reter> nermal, were you in #aber before?
[11:08] <crimsun> ninjafury: is this on a usb cd/dvd drive?
[11:08] <hutgyrr> a share should be sumthing like //HUB/thisisashare
[11:08] <ninjafury> no its on a hard drive
[11:08] <ph8> "//HUB/My Music"?
[11:09] <crimsun> ninjafury: hmm, I do have those symptoms on a usb cd/dvd drive, too, which makes sense due to the scsi emulation
[11:09] <concept10> ninjafury, did you upgrade to breezy from hoary using dist-upgrade?
[11:09] <hutgyrr> yep '//HUB/My Music' or //HUB/My\ Music/
[11:09] <ninjafury> i didnt upgrade, this is my first linux install
[11:09] <concept10> ninjafury, which release did you use?
[11:10] <Jowi> ph8, you can also point it to "//ip.addr.ess/share name" if the HUB name gives you trouble.
[11:10] <ph8> ah
[11:10] <ph8> will try that
[11:10] <ninjafury> the release is 5.10 breezy badger preview for AMD 64
[11:11] <ph8> still says i specified invalid share name
[11:11] <concept10> ninjafury, is it the latest one?  (colony 5)
[11:11] <ph8> fuck it i'll do it using windows then move it across from the read only partition
[11:11] <Jowi> ph8, but i think that you really need smbfs installed. so if you haven't already: sudo apt-get install smbfs
[11:11] <ninjafury> i really dont know, but i guess so cuz i just downloaded it today
[11:11] <ph8> i have it now
[11:11] <ph8> still same prob
[11:12] <hutgyrr> what command are you typing in?
[11:12] <concept10> ninjafury, are you on that install right now?
[11:12] <ninjafury> yeah
[11:12] <ph8> mount -t smbfs "//HUB/Henri's Music" /mnt/HUB
[11:12] <ph8> also tried //192.168.0.1
[11:12] <hutgyrr> use ' not "
[11:12] <ninjafury> well right now i'm on my laptop (the install is on my desktop and its infornt of me)
[11:13] <heatxsink> anyone in here use a PC-Card to CF reader?
[11:13] <concept10> ninjafury, run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade.  There was alot of fixes for xorg coming down the pipe today
[11:13] <heatxsink> i can't get ubuntu to read my CF card properly
[11:13] <ph8> ' makes it prompt with > after the cmd
[11:13] <Jowi> ph8, yeah, ' will do that
 +use ' not "
[11:15] <ninjafury> concept, the thing is that this 'assuming drive cache' error msg is constantly being printed on my screen, so it interupts whatever i'm trying to do. i cant seem to stop it.
[11:15] <reter> what do you do when your printer is printing unreadable documents?
[11:15] <Jowi> ph8, double ' ('' not " (see the difference????)) should make it recognise it as one real '. best bet is to change the share name so it does not have wierd characters in it.
[11:15] <concept10> ninjafury, does the livecd work on your?
[11:16] <ninjafury> haven't tried it
[11:16] <concept10> ninjafury, what type of storage do you have on that system? SATA?
[11:16] <ninjafury> yeah its sata
[11:17] <concept10> you have just one sata drive?
[11:17] <reter> most times i come here with a problem i am ignored
[11:17] <reter> unless thorpeautic is here
[11:18] <ninjafury> no i have 2, but breezy was installed on the first one, the second drive has no OS installed, it just hass all my data
[11:19] <Jowi> reter, if someone can give you a good answer/solution then will. there is no use giving bad advice on stuff that I/we/you know very little about. can make more damage than help :)
[11:19] <Jowi> s/then/they
[11:20] <ninjafury> concept10, could it be that the linux partition is messed up?
[11:20] <loststryk> :)
[11:20] <ph8> ty jowi
[11:20] <Jowi> reter, and it will also help if you are more specific. if it is printing pure garbage or do you have stripes in the print? laser or inkjet? what have you tried, etc :)
[11:20] <ph8> turns out the windows computer's misconfigured also
[11:20] <Chameleon22> cafuego, thank, installed. Dont get css error anymore... but now it just takes wayyy to long to load while eating all my machine resources
[11:21] <reter> in good news i got my cheapo digital camera to work on gkcam
[11:21] <Jowi> ph8, ah. good you noticed, hehe
[11:21] <reter> gtkam
[11:21] <concept10> ninjafury, I dont believe the partition is messed up, I think you have a problem with SATA drivers and xorg.
[11:21] <ph8> i'm transferring from what is effectively the router to something behind the network switch
[11:21] <ph8> pain in the arse
[11:21] <ninjafury> do you know how i can fix the sata driver problem?
[11:22] <reter> jowi, i have a brother mfc 7150c. it is printing the document but i can not make out the words. it is completly unreadable. no stripes..not pure garage. my printer is inkjet
[11:22] <n00bster> thank you Jowi, i will do.
[11:22] <reter> jowi, all i tried to change the letter size. make it smaller. i dont know how to change the font. if that is possible
[11:23] <Jowi> reter, most printers have a buttoncombination for making a testprint from it (from the printer hardware, not computer). how does that look?
[11:24] <reter> jowi, normal
[11:24] <concept10> ninjafury, cant help on that one, search the wiki...  try the live cd, see if it works .....
[11:24] <reter> jowi, when i had windows i didnt have this problem. it printed well
[11:24] <ninjafury> ok thanks
[11:24] <Jowi> reter, good. what driver are you using? is it connected to paralell or usb?
[11:24] <reter> it is connected paralell
[11:25] <reter> jowi, using the brother mfc 7150c driver
[11:25] <BurgerMann> Now.. what does CVS mean?.. some say subversion, but I can't get that right. :s
[11:25] <bob2> cvs is another revision control system
[11:25] <bob2> it's old and missing some pretty important features
[11:26] <bob2> subversion is newer and tries to fix some of those issues
[11:26] <loststryk> reter, try http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_driver.cgi?driver=epsonc&fromprinter=Brother-MFC_7150C
[11:26] <ph8> i like svn
[11:26] <ph8> why can't you get it right?
[11:26] <bob2> get what right?
[11:28] <Jowi> reter, good advice from loststryk. check it out. my first thought go to the bios. what transfer method is in use? (most bioses and os's work best if EPP/ECP, not SPP is selected). if it is, i would research more for the driver. unfortunatley i do not have much experience with this printer/driver at all...
[11:30] <Jowi> (epp/ecp is a transfer selection for the paralell port in the bios)
[11:31] <ph8> bob2: <BurgerMann> +Now.. what does CVS mean?.. some say subversion, but I can't get that right. :s
 why can't you get it right?
[11:32] <Chameleon22> cafuego, thank, installed. Dont get css error anymore... but now it just takes wayyy to long to load while eating all my machine resources
[11:32] <Chameleon22> cafuego, you there dude?
[11:33] <bob2> oh, I see
[11:33] <BurgerMann> ph8, hmnn.. because I thought CVS was an application, not a concept :}
[11:33] <reter> loststryk, what am i suppose to do? download the pdd file?
[11:33] <ph8> it is
[11:33] <ph8> and it is
[11:33] <BurgerMann> ph8, oh hehe
[11:34] <ph8> more of a protocol
[11:34] <BurgerMann> ah
[11:34] <ph8> It's a versionning system
[11:34] <ph8> so every time you alter the file it might increase the version number from 0.0.3 to 0.0.4 etc
[11:34] <bob2> BurgerMann: revision control is the concept, cvs is an implementation
[11:34] <bob2> tho not a particularily good one
[11:34] <ph8> then if you get to 1.05 and realise you cocked up the last 5 revisions you can rollback to 1.00
[11:34] <ph8> it's a good way to control projects, especially those where lots of you work on them (versionning control not CVS)
[11:35] <ph8> I'd recommend subversion (svn) for it
[11:35] <cafuego_> Chameleon22: whut?
[11:35] <ph8> it's quite straightforward once you figure it out
[11:35] <BurgerMann> ph8, so when ie php faq talks about anonymous CVS, it's some 3rd party who've been tweaking the original official version?
[11:35] <_rb_> heyas. whats a good app for ubuntu that i can use to make a relational database and basically have the same functionality of something like access ?
[11:36] <Jowi> I thought the whole point with CVS is that you can always track down what changes a specific person made...?
[11:36] <_rb_> my boss wants me to db all of his stock and clients etc, but I'm not allowed to build it, I've gotta use existing software
[11:36] <Chameleon22> cafuego, i got the decryption working, but now when i try to use xine or mplayer it almost chokes my system trying to play a dvd... eats a lot of resources without actually playing
[11:36] <BurgerMann> _rb_: I fancy mySql with phpMyadmin, but it takes a webserver with php.
[11:37] <_rb_> phpmyadmin is an administrator, I need to have a frontend for it. preferably a complete package, I've just been looking at the openoffice base package and its hideously underpowered. As I said, I'm not allowed to build one
[11:38] <_rb_> I use php and mysql for my own stuff and contracts, but this is just a rdb for the boss
[11:38] <_rb_> searched in the synaptic pile, and theres a lot to scroll thru
[11:38] <_rb_> wanted to know ifd there was a recommended one
[11:39] <cafuego_> Chameleon22: Ouch. Is DMA enabled on the drive?
[11:40] <Chameleon22> cafuego, dma?
[11:41] <n00bster> #gaim
[11:41] <n00bster> help
[11:41] <Chameleon22> n00bster, you need to type /join before channel name
[11:41] <n00bster> ok, ty :)
[11:42] <cafuego_> !dma
[11:42] <cafuego_> grrtvvrrr
[11:42] <cafuego_> !+dma
[11:42] <ubotu> well, dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. A method of transferring data from one memory area to another without having to go through the central processing unit. It makes your hard disks run faster :-).  DMA from the ubuntu wiki guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[11:43] <Ecker> how do i change rpm into deb files
[11:43] <Ecker> ?
[11:44] <ph8> alien
[11:44] <ph8> man alien
[11:44] <ph8> alien -d file.rpm
[11:44] <ph8> iirc
[11:44] <cafuego_> Magic!
[11:47] <p4skku> nas
[11:47] <LuVUnTu> any ideas when RC will be out?
[11:47] <LuVUnTu> release candidate
[11:50] <Tomcat_> LuVUnTu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseSchedule
[11:50] <Tomcat_> So, Oct. 6th
[11:50] <Zeke1> is there anyway to remote desktop from ubuntu to a windowsXP box?
[11:50] <ThePyromaniac> can anyone look at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2629
[11:51] <Tomcat_> Zeke1: Install VNC on the WinXP box, then use the Terminal Server Client
[11:51] <LuVUnTu> thank u Tomcat_
[11:51] <Tomcat_> Zeke1: There is also some technology already integrated into WinXP that should be possible to use... no idea how to do that though.
[11:52] <LuVUnTu> wow that still seem like a pretty long wait
[11:52] <Zeke1> Tomcat_, ok vnc is installed on winXP but how do i use the terminal server client...and will i get a graphical view of the winXP desktop like with XP's remote desktop client
[11:52] <Tomcat_> LuVUnTu: Well, the Preview is usable... but I like how they test stuff before it's out.
[11:52] <LuVUnTu> i am already using preview Tomcat_
[11:52] <Tomcat_> Zeke1: Open the Terminal Server Client, put in the hostname, choose VNC, then start? o_O
[11:53] <Tomcat_> Zeke1: Yes, you'll get a window showing WinXP's desktop
[11:53] <LuVUnTu> and it's pretty good so far :)
[11:53] <ThePyromaniac> Anyone know why i get the errors posted here whenever i use synaptic http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2629
[11:53] <ThePyromaniac> or does anyone know where the configuration file is that declares the position of the Applications/Open window bars?
[11:53] <Zeke1> Tomcat_, thanx gonna check it out now
[11:54] <carthik> where is the best place to ask a gsl (gnu scientific library) related c programming question?
[11:55] <Zeke1> Tomcat_, when i say connect nothing happens and terminal server dissapears??
[11:57] <ThePyromaniac> carthik #c++ is a good place :D
[11:57] <Zeke1> Tomcat_, ok but thats like a VNC viewer...isnt there some type of Remote desktop client fro ubuntu?
[11:57] <tzapachuau> eggdfgd
[11:59] <jack> i'm running ubuntu 5.04 and i'm trying to install java but i'm not sure of the right way to do it. I tried using dselect, apt-get and the binary installer from sun but each died with different errors
[12:00] <jack> apt-get said it couldn't find the package, sun's installer says it's   not compatible with the default package versions ..
[12:00] <jack> i'm stumped
[12:01] <carthik> ThePyromaniac, thanks - i know it is something stupid, but it is late already, and I cant figure things out clearly :)
[12:01] <ThePyromaniac> ^^
[12:02] <jack> i tried this command : "apt-get install sun-j2re1"
[12:02] <Zeke1> what do i need to install to get 'make' to work in ubuntu...im using a make file to run a c++ program
[12:02] <jack> which kicked: apt-get install sun-j2re1.
[12:02] <mon> arse
[12:03] <jack> errum kicked the error : E: Couldn't find package sun-j2re1
[12:03] <Tomcat_> Zeke1: build-essential should be enough
[12:03] <mon> hello
[12:03] <jack> i checked my apt sources, which included universe and multiuniverse
[12:03] <Zeke1> TokenBad,  build-essential?
[12:03] <Tomcat_> Zeke1 Tomcat_, ok but thats like a VNC viewer...isnt there some type of Remote desktop client fro ubuntu? <--- Err... the VNC viewer is the remote desktop client... or what do you mean? :>
[12:04] <mahangu> is there a util for gnome that will let me switch between workspaces the way OSX does it?
[12:04] <jack> which repositories does this "sun-j2rl" existing?
[12:04] <Tomcat_> jack: You either need to create your own java package (most people here can help you do this), or you can use the unofficial java package.
[12:04] <Tomcat_> jack: hoary or breezy?
[12:04] <Zeke1> Tomcat_,  no i see now...i just thought maybe ubuntu has another way cause WinXP has its built in remote desktop client...you dont need to install vnc
[12:04] <jack> Tomcat_, : hoary
[12:05] <Tomcat_> Zeke1: Yeah, as I said... it's somhow possible to use that too, I just don't have any idea how it works. :)
[12:05] <Zeke1> Tomcat_,  how the winXp stuff works or how ubuntu connects to it?
[12:05] <Tomcat_> jack: http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/ <--- hoary-extras has packages for Java
[12:06] <Tomcat_> Zeke1: If the WinXP stuff is enabled by default or how to enable it, and how to connect to it.
[12:06] <Tomcat_> Zeke1: But if you figured it out, great. :)
[12:06] <jack> Tomcat_, : nods, yeah I expected that I might have to either use someone else's built package or build my own, i did trie to build my own package but ran into different breakdowns ...
[12:06] <Zeke1> Tomcat_,  no havent figured it out yet....
[12:08] <Tomcat_> jack: It's usually very easy... just get the official java installer, install "java-package", then sudo fakeroot, make-jpkg <installer>, and you got a package. :)
[12:08] <Tomcat_> jack: But the backports java packages are good too.
[12:08] <jack> eyah, let me double check my installs for "java-package" i think i did follow those instructions ...
[12:09] <ice_1963> good morning tomcat_
[12:10] <Tomcat_> Good morning, ice_1963.
[12:11] <ice_1963> will w32codecs install in Debian sid?
[12:12] <ice_1963> from ubuntu
[12:12] <ice_1963> hmm
[12:13] <Jowi> should be safe
[12:13] <kanwar> hi anyone volunteer to help a sort of *newbie* to configure a small LAN / internet gateway?
[12:13] <kanwar> both machines are running kubuntu ...
[12:13] <astig> hello...
[12:13] <astig> is there a help-line for ubuntu
[12:14] <astig> help-channel on ubuntu?
[12:14] <Jowi> kanwar, what kind of gateway? do you plan to use a router (easiest solution) or one of the PCs as a gateway?
[12:14] <carthik> astig this is it
[12:14] <Jowi> astig, i think this is it :)
[12:14] <kanwar> astig, one of the PCs as gateway ...
[12:14] <kanwar> sorry jowi
[12:15] <astig> thanks
[12:15] <astig> my problem is... can i share ubuntu printer to windows user?
[12:15] <Jowi> kanwar, well, gateway PC needs two nics. NIC1 = internet connection, NIC2 = LAN connection.
[12:15] <kanwar> on the 'gateway' PC i have two NICs configured -- one points to the internet and the other to my second computer (via a crossover cable)
[12:16] <jack> yup, i do have the "java-package" installed ... so i su to a non-root user to build my fakeroot
[12:16] <rambo3> what
[12:16] <kanwar> jowi, on the second computer, i have one NIC which is also setup correctly (static ip, and visible in ifconfig)
[12:16] <Jowi> kanwar, seems like a good start. what are all the nics ipaddresses?
[12:17] <kanwar> however, i am unable to ping one computer from the other
[12:17] <deFrysk> jack got fakeroot installed ?
[12:17] <Jowi> kanwar, yeah. pc1's got connection to internet. got it. what are the lan nics ip addresses?
[12:17] <jack> deFrysk, yes i do
[12:17] <kanwar> jowi, okay here goes: the gateway machine has a dhcp based ip address on the internet NIC and a static one (192.168.1.10) on the local one
[12:18] <jack> I got this error ...
[12:18] <deFrysk> jack, got the jave.bin file ?
[12:18] <kanwar> also, the second comp has a static ip of 192.168.1.1
[12:18] <jack> error: http://paste.lisp.org/display/12062
[12:18] <deFrysk> java.in*
[12:18] <jack> deFrysk, yes
[12:18] <jack> errum
[12:18] <jack> uncertain
[12:18] <deFrysk> jack, fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] 
[12:18] <Jowi> kanwar, and what subnet?
[12:18] <ice_1963> i have bin
[12:18] <deFrysk> jack, download the .bin file from java.sun.com
[12:18] <kanwar> 255.255.255.0
[12:19] <astig> anyone... can i share printers ubuntu
[12:19] <jack> yeah i did: http://paste.lisp.org/display/12062
[12:19] <jack> i have the file already, /opt/packages/jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586-rpm.bin
[12:19] <deFrysk> jack, NOT the rpm.bin
[12:19] <jack> oh
[12:19] <rambo3> tar
[12:19] <kanwar> jowi, actually i should take a step back and say that this problem crops up each time the machines are booted in a debian based distro ...
[12:19] <deFrysk> the .bin (without rpm)
[12:20] <kanwar> I also have Suse installed on both machines and it works fine then
[12:20] <Jowi> kanwar, so, pc1: 192.168.1.10 is connected to pc2: 192.168.1.1 ?
[12:20] <ice_1963> ok
[12:20] <kanwar> jowi, yes
[12:20] <Jowi> kanwar, have you got it to work before? it get messed up only after reboot?
[12:21] <astig> nobody answering me
[12:21] <ThePyromaniac> anyone know how i can move my windows installation from one HD to this HD and make it dual bootable? ^^
[12:21] <kanwar> jowi, no i have never seen it work yet with ubuntu/kubuntu/xandros or a combination of these on the two machines
[12:21] <Jowi> astig, short answer: yes
[12:22] <astig> jowi: how?
[12:22] <Jowi> kanwar, ok. are you pinging using hostnames or are you pinging via ip addresses?
[12:22] <Jowi> astig, the long answer i have not even tried since i have no windows box to try with....
[12:22] <kanwar> for instance, if i have ubuntu running on the gateway box (the one i am writing from), then if there's either ubuntu or xandros on the second comp, it does not work
[12:22] <Jowi> !printershare
[12:22] <ubotu> Not a clue, Jowi
[12:22] <kanwar> i.e. i cannot ping one computer from the other
[12:23] <astig> anyone has experience sharing printer on windows?
[12:23] <Jowi> kanwar, try to change 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.1.2
[12:23] <Jowi> kanwar, usually, .1 is the gateway itself
[12:24] <kanwar> jowi, hold on, i'll do it right now and let you know ...
[12:24] <ice_1963> if ubuntu remove java from there /etc/apt/sources.list it's going to be fun
[12:25] <vinboy> hi
[12:25] <kanwar> jowi, hmm i changed it but nothing yet ...
[12:25] <vinboy> what does it mean by software package that can't be authenticated?
[12:25] <kanwar> still getting Destination host unreachable
[12:25] <kanwar> jowi, netstat shows my default route pointing to 192.168.1.10, as I gather it should
[12:26] <Jowi> kanwar, correct
[12:26] <Jowi> kanwar, can you ping the gateway?
[12:26] <kanwar> jowi, what i wonder is: is this a debian thing??
[12:26] <kanwar> nope
[12:27] <Jowi> kanwar, no, there is something that is set up wrong.
[12:27] <Jowi> kanwar, need to pinpoint it
[12:27] <kanwar> jowi, okay. btw i can ping the network i.e. 192.168.1.0
[12:28] <Jowi> kanwar, yeah. which ip have you set up as the gateway?
[12:28] <Zeke1> anybody do c++ and opengl....i am running a program with a makefile and i get this error: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXmu
[12:29] <kanwar> on the non-gateway computer, i have the ip of the gateway box as the gateway IP
[12:30] <Nermal> lo beezly  :)
[12:30] <Jowi> kanwar, ah. hmmm.
[12:30] <beezly> Nermal: lo
[12:30] <Jowi> kanwar, hang on.
[12:30] <beezly> Nermal: I still got the cool reverse DNS :)
[12:31] <ThePyromaniac> anyone know how i can move my windows install from one HD to another?
[12:31] <hutgyrr> when you su root is the only way to go back to prev user by su prevuser or id there a logoff flag or anything
[12:31] <hutgyrr> * or is
[12:32] <kanwar> jowi, sure, take your time.
[12:32] <zakame> what's the best way to migrate saved mboxes coming from one distro to another?
[12:35] <Jowi> kanwar, this might be a stupid question. if you have firestarter installed, maybe you sort of forgot to enable ip-forwarding?
[12:36] <kanwar> jowi, okay ... just been hunting on the internet again. It appears that although the card on my second computer shows as configured, it might not be the correct driver
[12:37] <kanwar> its a Yukon sk98lin card
[12:37] <heatxsink> has anyone got a pcmcia card to compact flash card reader working in ubuntu?  Mine seems to mount the partition on the card, and then nautilis goes beserk, the window opens then closes and then will not mount the partition!!
[12:37] <Jowi> so it should use the sk98lin module
[12:37] <kanwar> however, i am still puzzled since i can ping the card itself
[12:37] <kanwar> yeah, but i cannot see it in lsmod
[12:37] <kanwar> doing modprobe sk98lin did not work
[12:37] <jack> deFrysk: I got the true bin file without the rpm part and its moving forward again, horra, thanks for point me in the right direction!
[12:37] <kanwar> i checked /lib/modules ... etc but did not find the driver
[12:38] <deFrysk> jack, yw :)
[12:38] <Jowi> kanwar, it might have a different chipset in it. if it can ping itself it should be ok.
[12:38] <jack> I was seriously stuck (dump i know) thanks again everyone :)
[12:40] <Jowi> kanwar, lets say that nic1 is your internet connection and nic2 is beside nic1 on the gateway pc. Nic3 is the standalone pc. which nic are you talking about, nic1, 2 or 3?
[12:40] <Zeke1> anyboyd use c++ and openGL
[12:40] <kanwar> 3
[12:40] <kanwar> nic3
[12:40] <Jowi> kanwar, ok, then we are thinking the same.
[12:42] <kanwar> jowi, that's what's puzzling me ... as I said, it works perfectly if I start SuSE on both computers !!
[12:43] <Jowi> kanwar, i bet it is not a driver problem. since you can ping the network there is a misconfiguration on either Nic2 or nic3.
[12:43] <Jowi> kanwar, firewalls installed?
[12:45] <Raptoid> selamlar.
[12:46] <kanwar> jowi, firewall is installed on the gateway PC
[12:48] <Jowi> kanwar, which one? firestarter?
[12:50] <Jowi> kanwar, found a great page: http://www.fs-security.com/docs/connection-sharing.php
[12:51] <Nermal> beezly: :)
[12:51] <Anak1n> hi
[12:51] <Anak1n> can someone help me
[12:51] <Anak1n> ?
[12:51] <nalioth> Anak1n: if you ask a question
[12:51] <fanopanic> Since upgrading to breezy I miss about 80% of all icons... is there a known solution to that problem?
[12:51] <Jowi> Anak1n, ask and you might be lucky that someone can. if you don't ask the question no one could
[12:52] <Anak1n> what to do
[12:52] <Anak1n> with
[12:52] <Anak1n> pkg.deb
[12:52] <Anak1n> how to install it
[12:52] <Anak1n> :S
[12:52] <fanopanic> dpkg -i pkg.deb
[12:52] <kanwar> ok, i think its not firestarter or any other package ... its a script i got off the net
[12:52] <kanwar> let me check that page, jowi ... thanks for the link
[12:52] <Anak1n> i download
[12:52] <Anak1n> opera
[12:52] <Jowi> kanwar, use firestarter. really easy solution.
[12:53] <Feles> hello all, in need of a little help here
[12:53] <Jowi> !info firestarter
[12:53] <ubotu> firestarter: (gtk program for managing and observing your firewall), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.0.1-1ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 518 kB, Installed size: 2348 kB
[12:53] <bzimage> feles.. so ask!
[12:53] <bzimage> :)
[12:54] <Feles> I tried installing Ubuntu on a box that already had Windows XP on it, and decided to quit once it came to the formatting of partitions... (quitting the installer completely,) but now I can't boot back into Win XP
[12:54] <ccooke> Feles: did you tell it to use all the disk?
[12:54] <Feles> no
[12:54] <inc|freaky> when i do ./configure it says: configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check --> what package am i missin?
[12:55] <Anak1n> thanks
[12:55] <Anak1n> it's working
[12:55] <Anak1n> :)))
[12:55] <Feles> I said to "forget" all the changes to the partitions
[12:55] <Feles> and no
[12:55] <Feles> I told it not to touch the windows partition
[12:56] <Feles> Actually I told it to "forget" the changes, then I Ctrl-Alt-Del'd out of the installer
[12:57] <kanwar> jowi, okay let me try firestarter then ...
[12:57] <kanwar> thanks for all your help so far :)
[12:57] <rambo3> Feles : insert xp cd -> repair XP -> login as admin -> type FIXMBR
[12:57] <rambo3> if you still have XP on that is ,
[12:58] <Jowi> kanwar, that page make it very easy, step by step. i think that the script you have is not enabling ip forwarding properly. you're welcome
[12:58] <Mr-Falkor> There has been alot of xserver upgrades these last days
[12:58] <Mr-Falkor> I`ve had a xserver upgrade every day :S
[12:58] <Mr-Falkor> is that normal ?
[12:58] <Mr-Falkor> or is it just me ?
[12:59] <rambo3> just you
[12:59] <Mr-Falkor> humm
[12:59] <kanwar> jowi, okay i am currently installing firestarter ... i will follow the steps on the link you gave
[12:59] <Mr-Falkor> My apt gotta me fuck`d up then
[01:00] <LivingTarget> yeah xserver gets upgraded quite a lot, same for openoffice. It's about 100meg a day. I suppose you gotta really only update once a month
[01:00] <Micksa> I have a question about ooo calc
[01:00] <Micksa> where should I go for that?
[01:00] <LivingTarget> on breezy of course
[01:00] <Mr-Falkor> oh,.. good - my apt isnt fuck`d up =p
[01:00] <Jowi> Mr-Falkor, ubuntu is tailoring all the updates to fit you personally. it's the next big thing in "automatic updates" ;) but on the serious side, yes, Xorg has been through some bugfixing
[01:01] <Mr-Falkor> ;P
[01:01] <Jowi> crap, i forgot my coffee, now it's cold.
[01:01] <Mr-Falkor> =/
[01:02] <Mr-Falkor> well well,.. gotta go down to my GF now ;)
[01:02] <Mr-Falkor> c ya
[01:02] <Jowi> cu
[01:03] <tzapachuau> i have installed VLC in my ubuntu and there is no audio.
[01:03] <Jowi> tzapachuau, try "killall esd"
[01:03] <tzapachuau> ok
[01:03] <nalioth> ubotu: tell tzapachuau about sound
[01:04] <tzapachuau> works
[01:04] <tzapachuau> :)
[01:04] <kanwar> jowi, i started the firewall on the gateway PC but the situation is still the same ... do i have to install/configure it on the second computer as well?
[01:04] <tzapachuau> thanks alot
[01:04] <Feles> hrm.... logging into the repair console and typing FIXMBR didn't seem to work
[01:04] <Jowi> kanwar, nope. but you might need to restart the network on it
[01:05] <nalioth> Feles: go to bootdisk.com and get you a win98 boot cd image
[01:05] <kemik> Feles:  since you're not using ubuntu, it's a windows issue :P
[01:05] <Feles> lol
[01:05] <intelikey> how hard is it to upgrade ubuntu to debian ?
[01:06] <alexandros> tzapachuau: you need to install the esound plugin
[01:06] <nalioth> intelikey: it's not hard
[01:06] <nalioth> intelikey: it's impossible
[01:06] <kemik> intelikey:  i protest the use of "upgrade to debian"
[01:06] <Jowi> tzapachuau, esd plugin needed for vlc if you want to use that, or go with alsa all the way on the system
[01:06] <kemik> intelikey:  and you'd have to reinstall
[01:06] <tzapachuau> alexandros, i guess its already installed
[01:06] <tzapachuau> :)
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[01:06] <tzapachuau> i have installed xmms before
[01:06] <[bugi] > hello ubunters
[01:06] <tzapachuau> maybe that have installed it
[01:07] <alexandros> tzapachuau: it is separate from the vlc install
[01:07] <kanwar> jowi, okay will reboot that machine now ...
[01:07] <rambo3> hell i would you debian too if sarge kernel supported my hardware
[01:07] <inc|freaky> what package are the x includes in?
[01:07] <alexandros> tzapachuau: I have to install it in to get sound from vlc
[01:07] <Jowi> inc|freaky, xserver-xorg
[01:07] <nalioth> inc|freaky: xlibs-dev and xlibs-static-dev
[01:07] <Jowi> oh, the includes
[01:07] <Jowi> sorry
[01:07] <tzapachuau> i just did killall esd
[01:07] <Feles> I can't find a win 98 boot cd image....
[01:07] <tzapachuau> and it works fine now
[01:07] <inc|freaky> thank you! :)
[01:08] <nalioth> Feles: it's there (any windows 9x boot floppy image will work)
[01:08] <inc|freaky> and where are the qt headers and libraries (which package?)
[01:09] <rambo3> if FIXMBR didnt work, he doeasnt need win 9x boot floppy
[01:09] <nalioth> inc|freaky: open your synaptic and search for "-dev" and find what you need
[01:09] <nalioth> rambo3: i have found FIXMBR to be useless
[01:09] <inc|freaky> im all new to ubuntu (using kubuntu)
[01:09] <nalioth> inc|freaky: then use kynaptic
[01:10] <inc|freaky> thx nalioth :) ill use apt-cache search -dev
[01:10] <nalioth> inc|freaky: you'll get more than you bargained for. better to use synaptic/kynaptic
[01:10] <intelikey> i've heard that "ntfs" doesn't use MBR   like fatXX did.
[01:10] <inc|freaky> ok will do
[01:10] <Jowi> kanwar, "sudo /etc/init.d/network restart" is quicker :)
[01:11] <kanwar> oh okay ... :)
[01:11] <nalioth> intelikey: it doesnt. but if grub or lilo is living in the MBR, windows wont load if grub/lilo gets foobared
[01:12] <inc|freaky> any1 got a cig? i have none left :(
[01:12] <inc|freaky> ;)
[01:12] <jack> dun dun dun, ok i'm back :D ... so i got java built and installed and now i'm trying to install azureus via the hoary-backports but i'm getting this wierd error ...
[01:13] <intelikey> the problem described, "[ctrl] [alt] [del]  out of partitioner" would not have gotten to the point of installing any boot loader.
[01:13] <jack> libswt-gtk-3.1-jni (
[01:13] <jack> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[01:13] <jack> azureus: Depends: libswt-gtk-3.1-java but it is not installable
[01:13] <jack> E: Broken packages
[01:14] <intelikey> more likely that an ntfs partition is awax'd .
[01:14] <Echelon-H> with what program can i burn mp3s to Audio CD?
[01:14] <Jowi> Echelon-H, graveman does it all
[01:14] <CzarAlex> im trying to install TKMoo-light and it reqires me to edit the make file to point to the location of my WISH file. I think I'm doing it right.. /usr/bin/wish8.4 but when i `make` it cannot be found in that directory, even though when i search for wish, i see it in that directory. Suggestions?
[01:15] <ice_1963> k3b and gnomebaker
[01:15] <nalioth> jack: what kind of java did you install?
[01:15] <intelikey> CzarAlex: have you tried path without the file name ?
[01:15] <nalioth> CzarAlex: did you open a terminal and type "which wish" ?
[01:16] <jack> nalioth, sun's linux installer + fakeroot (build a deb pkg) and install via dpkg
[01:16] <kanwar> okay jowi, here's what happened in the last 5-6 minutes that i was away: I restarted kubuntu on the second computer but it did not work ....
[01:16] <xcsd> someone here with breezy and workin ati drivers?
[01:16] <nalioth> jack: quit with backports..they're evil
[01:16] <CzarAlex> intelikey, No, there are `examples` in the make file and they all point to the path with name.
[01:16] <kanwar> however, i restarted it in SUSE and it worked!!!
[01:16] <CzarAlex> nalioth, oo no i didnt. one second.
[01:16] <nalioth> jack: go to azureus.sourceforge.net and pick the one of your choice
[01:16] <kanwar> i guess it points to the driver then, let me try and install it now
[01:16] <ice_1963> dpkg -i then the file
[01:16] <jack> nalioth, ok, i will, thanks ofr the pointer
[01:17] <xcsd> nalioth, backports are great
[01:17] <tzapachuau> i have installed amarok
[01:17] <CzarAlex> nalioth, usr/bin/wish
[01:17] <tzapachuau> and while the wizzard was running
[01:17] <BiSK-8> hello
[01:17] <tzapachuau> i was playing VLC
[01:17] <Jowi> kanwar, oh dear oh dear. so it might be either driver or wierd setup on nic3 then. good to know that at least your gateway is configged ok!
[01:17] <BiSK-8> i got a bit of a problem
[01:17] <tzapachuau> now i have the same sound prob
[01:17] <tzapachuau> killall esd
[01:17] <tzapachuau> did not help
[01:17] <Feles> nalioth I... can't seem to find CD images ... I can find floppy images... but I don't have floppy drives on both computers
[01:17] <nalioth> CzarAlex: then use that path
[01:17] <BiSK-8> i updated my ubuntu, but nothing happened
[01:17] <BiSK-8> its all the same
[01:17] <kemik> xcsd:  the idea of backports is great... but that backports keep breaking things aint great
[01:17] <nalioth> Feles: got a livecd?
[01:18] <Feles> sorry about that
[01:18] <CaiN_SA> lol BiSK-8
[01:18] <Feles> nalioth of ubuntu? yes?
[01:18] <kanwar> jowi, yeah ... thanks to you!!
[01:18] <Feles> er... yes I do
[01:18] <BiSK-8> ur laffin' im cryin'
[01:18] <xcsd> ok
[01:18] <CzarAlex> nalioth, I have been and even when i make, it cannot be found. shall I post the output?
[01:18] <tzapachuau> in the configure/engine
[01:18] <CaiN_SA> BiSK-8, what did you think will happen ?
[01:18] <tzapachuau> i have only
[01:18] <nalioth> Feles: load it and fdisk /mbr
[01:18] <Feles> okie doke
[01:18] <tzapachuau> aRts Engine
[01:18] <kanwar> if i can get it working soon enough i'll let you know ...
[01:18] <Feles> brb
[01:18] <tzapachuau> which did not play my mp3
[01:18] <nalioth> CzarAlex: to a pastebin please
[01:18] <intelikey> BiSK-8: what did you update ubuntu to?  debian ?  :)
[01:18] <alexandros> tzapachuau: afterwards you have to select for the audio output
[01:18] <BiSK-8> another logon page cain_sa
[01:18] <Jowi> tzapachuau, esd is a sound daemon. either you use esd or alsa. it is a mess using them both at the same time.
[01:18] <CaiN_SA> BiSK-8, rofl
[01:18] <Echelon-H> have anyone had any success running ventrilo ?
[01:19] <BiSK-8> no, i updated from hoary 2 breezy
[01:19] <tzapachuau> okay
[01:19] <tzapachuau> but i cant use esd now
[01:19] <tzapachuau> its not in the option
[01:19] <CzarAlex> nalioth, of course. here is the top half of the make file. http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2630
[01:19] <CaiN_SA> BiSK-8, their basicly the same :(
[01:19] <xcsd> dont use esd
[01:19] <xcsd> it sux
[01:19] <BiSK-8> why, is it possibile 2 update 2 debian?
[01:19] <CaiN_SA> BiSK-8, no
[01:19] <BiSK-8> argh
[01:19] <BiSK-8> ok
[01:20] <temperboi> hello, can someone help me? new to linux.
[01:20] <CaiN_SA> it will break everything
[01:20] <xcsd> its possible, but dont try this at home :)
[01:20] <CaiN_SA> temperboi, with what ?
[01:20] <intelikey> BiSK-8: you missed a bit on that eariler....  :)
[01:20] <Jowi> tzapachuau, "esd" or "sudo esd"  should start it again
[01:20] <temperboi> trying to install xmms but it say GLIB missing
[01:20] <tzapachuau> ok
[01:20] <CzarAlex> nalioth, Now. I've been adding a line under WISH8.3	= /usr/local/bin/wish8.3 . to WISH8.4	= /usr/bin/wish8.4
[01:20] <nalioth> CzarAlex: and you've run the ./configure and it errors out?
[01:20] <temperboi> and like i installed all the stuff in development
[01:20] <BiSK-8> so, in the wiki page, i did all it says, then step 2, ti gives me error
[01:20] <CzarAlex> nalioth, install directions dont mention ./configure
[01:20] <Jowi> tzapachuau, i would suggest not using esd at all though. i removed it and is only using alsa instead.
[01:21] <BiSK-8> and i am sudo
[01:21] <nalioth> CzarAlex: the makefile looks to me like it is pretty well cut and dried
[01:21] <temperboi> uhmm.. can i paste links to screenshots? i take them while installing,.
[01:21] <ice_1963> hello sudo
[01:21] <tzapachuau> i did esd
[01:21] <tzapachuau> then there is a sound
[01:21] <CzarAlex> nalioth, lemme run it and post output
[01:21] <tzapachuau> but amarok did not work
[01:21] <ice_1963> how are you lol
[01:21] <BiSK-8> -.-
[01:21] <BiSK-8> -.-'
[01:22] <BiSK-8> -.-"
[01:22] <BiSK-8> -.-'''
[01:22] <temperboi> CaiN_SA, can you check this is the screenshot, http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/5568/glib4ej.jpg
[01:22] <temperboi> http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/3541/glib24le.jpg
[01:22] <CzarAlex> nalioth, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2631
[01:22] <Jowi> tzapachuau, are you in kde now? there's a #kubuntu
[01:22] <tzapachuau> not in KDE
[01:22] <tzapachuau> gnome i suppose
[01:23] <ice_1963> gnome is the best
[01:23] <nalioth> CzarAlex: it built. is there a problem with it?
[01:23] <intelikey> ice_1963: cause why ?
[01:23] <tzapachuau> i think i'll better use xmms
[01:23] <tzapachuau> :)
[01:24] <CzarAlex> nalioth, yes. I can't find it to run? would I just type tkmoo-light or tkmoo in to the run command? either one doesnt work for me.
[01:24] <ice_1963> ok kde is better
[01:24] <Jowi> tzapachuau, ah, very well. "killall esd" + gnome->system->prefs->sound: untick "enable sound server at startup" + gnome->system->prefs->multimedia something: default output sink: ALSA. then tell your programs to use alsa instead of esd. solution = perfect :)
[01:25] <ice_1963> :0)
[01:25] <nalioth> CzarAlex: in the terminal you built from, type ./tkmoo or ./tkmoo-light (tab completion is your friend)
[01:25] <intelikey> ice_1963: cause why ?
[01:25] <CzarAlex> nalioth, thats the * right?
[01:25] <nalioth> you guys can take your interface discussions to #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:25] <ice_1963> it's linux ok
[01:25] <nalioth> CzarAlex: whats the *?
[01:25] <Feles> and back.... in ubuntu live boot... and nalioth, ubuntu is unable to open /mbr
[01:25] <nalioth> Feles: use sudo?
[01:26] <Feles> nope, still unable to
[01:26] <CaiN_SA> sigh temperboi , why you compiling xmms ?
[01:26] <CzarAlex> nalioth, Oo it worked. Sorry. Wrong usage of * . thanks for your help this morning.
[01:26] <nalioth> Feles: the missing floppy drive is gonna be the death of us all
[01:26] <Feles> greeeeat
[01:26] <tzapachuau> it seems my xmms is frozen
[01:26] <intelikey> nalioth: just kick me out of here.  i don't use ubuntu anyway....
[01:26] <nalioth> CzarAlex: is there an install script in there?
[01:27] <temperboi> CaiN_SA, why not?
[01:27] <Jowi> tzapachuau, yeah, better quit all programs before making all the sound changes.
[01:27] <ice_1963> windowmaker is better
[01:27] <CzarAlex> nalioth, actually there is. make install . do I need to run that even though i can get the prog to run?
[01:27] <Jowi> ice_1963, WM rocks.
[01:27] <aris[glande] > hello people. I am trying to download the whole dependancies needed for runing "geda" on a ubuntu box at home which has no internet connection. How may I list the deps ? (I am running on an other ubuntu box but not sure some deps are already installed and won't be downloaded by apt-get -d)
[01:27] <nalioth> !tell CzarAlex about checkinstall
[01:27] <tzapachuau> even this xchat?
[01:27] <nalioth> aris[glande] : use apt-zip
[01:28] <Jowi> tzapachuau, not if it not use any sound events you don't have to
[01:28] <aris[glande] > nalioth, didn't know about it. just going to see
[01:28] <CzarAlex> nalioth, ok thank you.
[01:28] <Feles> is there any way of working around the missing disk drive?
[01:28] <havoc> nalioth: slick :)
[01:28] <temperboi> CaiN_SA, still here?
[01:28] <skjsl> how do i install java in apt
[01:28] <havoc> hmm, no apt-zip :(
[01:28] <skjsl> it say it not there
[01:28] <aris[glande] > hmm apt-zip is not installed on this computer
[01:29] <skjsl> :(
[01:29] <nalioth> CzarAlex: if you compile a lot of your own stuff, checkinstall is your friend when it comes time for system maintenance
[01:29] <aris[glande] > and i cannot install it due to strange apt rules
[01:29] <havoc> aris[glande] : apt-get install apt-zip
[01:29] <havoc> bah
[01:29] <Jowi> Feles, my suggestion would be to go through with the ubuntu install. you can resize the win partition there and probably make it all work fine.
[01:29] <tzapachuau> thanks guys
[01:29] <tzapachuau> with your help
[01:30] <tzapachuau> its nice to play with Ubuntu (Linux)
[01:30] <aris[glande] > havoc, the admins have set a local repository directory and it's not mounted
[01:30] <temperboi> can i be next in the help list? :(
[01:30] <tzapachuau> Now i really agree that linux can do something than just a system Beep
[01:30] <nalioth> Feles: waht was your original question? i just assumed you wanted to clean your /mbr
[01:30] <CzarAlex> nalioth, heh and I need friends when using linux :0 thanks again.
[01:30] <Feles> I wanted to be able to boot back into Windows.
[01:30] <Feles> not just clean it
[01:30] <kemik> temperboi:  what's the error?
[01:30] <nalioth> CzarAlex: got a whole room of em
[01:30] <kemik> Feles:  call windows-support :P
[01:30] <aris[glande] > hmm just downed them by hand. I hope I won't miss any package
[01:31] <nalioth> Feles: cleaning the /mbr will bring back a windows only system
[01:31] <temperboi> http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/3541/glib24le.jpg  << screenshot of glib error
[01:31] <havoc> nalioth: even NT/2K/XP?
[01:31] <Jowi> Feles, go through with the install of ubuntu. you will in the end get a bootloader that possibly can boot your windows partition.
[01:31] <nalioth> aris[glande] : in a terminal, type "apt-cache showpkg <pkgname>" and it'll show you the packages necessary
[01:31] <Feles> lol the possibly isn't very reassuring
[01:31] <Feles> but I suppose I'll try to go through with it.
[01:31] <kemik> temperboi:  "sudo apt-get install libglib1.2-dev"
[01:31] <Feles> Thanks guys.
[01:32] <Jowi> Feles, well, since you aborted and it failed, that is my best bet
[01:32] <nalioth> havoc: windows doesnt use the /mbr
[01:32] <Feles> yeah
[01:32] <kemik> temperboi:  i'm assuming youve installed "build-essential" aswell since you seem to have the compilers etc installed
[01:32] <havoc> nalioth: oh yeah, first bootable drive is where it's bootloader goes
[01:32] <ice_1963> what is window's
[01:32] <Feles> well, be back in a lil while, hopefully.
[01:32] <temperboi> kemik, thanks, but i have installed everything in development.
[01:32] <skjsl> could anyone tell me why apt no longer has java?
[01:32] <skjsl> I mean the ubnutu reposotorys
[01:33] <johnnybezak> anyone know of a good howto for rsync w/ ssh
[01:33] <nalioth> skjsl: distribution legalities
[01:33] <nalioth> skjsl: which java did you want?
[01:33] <havoc> johnnybezak: yes, hang on
[01:33] <atha> temperboi: why are you compiling the xmms, isn't the packaged xmms good enough?
[01:33] <BiSK-8> how can i uninstall xmms?
[01:33] <skjsl> nalioth: I just want the runtime j2r**bla
[01:33] <humulus> apt-get remove xmms
[01:33] <nalioth> BiSK-8: apt-get remove xmms
[01:33] <nalioth> skjsl: hoary or breezy?
[01:33] <BiSK-8> k
[01:33] <kemik> temperboi:  try libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2  and libg++2.8.1.3-glibc2.2
[01:33] <havoc> johnnybezak: I use a setup very similar to this: http://www.jdmz.net/ssh/
[01:33] <BiSK-8> thx
[01:33] <temperboi> atha, i cant install it
[01:34] <kemik> maybe
[01:34] <atha> temperboi: why, what's the matter with it
[01:34] <kemik> temperboi:  what's the error on apt-getting xmms ?
[01:35] <ice_1963> xmms and streamtuner rock's
[01:35] <AnThony> helllo
[01:35] <temperboi> im tryinh to install it in a computer with no internet so i guess it didnt find it.. so i downloaded another package and try compiliing it. its what i read from forums tho.
[01:35] <atha> ice_1963: could you please stop that mindless babble about "this and that rocks"
[01:35] <ice_1963> with sid that is
[01:36] <Jowi> hello AnThony
[01:36] <kemik> temperboi:  you should have downloaded the deb from the ubuntu rep's
[01:37] <temperboi> yes, that the deb file.. do i need to unzip it or i run the apt-get install?
[01:37] <kemik> dpkg -i file.deb
[01:37] <BiSK-8> are there any programs 4 ubuntu that support a usb bluetooth device since its made for windows?
[01:38] <atha> BiSK-8: I guess that it's supported out of the box
[01:38] <BiSK-8> what?
[01:38] <BiSK-8> what does that mean?
[01:38] <atha> just plug it in, and run "hciconfig" to see information about the device
[01:38] <nalioth> BiSK-8: wants to know where the bluetooth manager is
[01:38] <xiaogil> Is there an atlas freeware for linux ?
[01:39] <BiSK-8> ok
[01:39] <skjsl> nalioth: hoary
[01:39] <BiSK-8> i ran hciconfig
[01:39] <BiSK-8> now what?
[01:39] <temperboi> i have installed ubuntu in another computer with no internet, so is it possible to download the source and change to repositories to my disk directory?
[01:39] <nalioth> skjsl: http://www.giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/   have fun
[01:39] <jack> nalioth : i got it up and running np, thanks again
[01:40] <nalioth> jack: great!
[01:40] <BiSK-8> atha, nalioth, now what?
[01:40] <atha> BiSK-8: what do you want to do with it?
[01:40] <kemik> temperboi:  if you can retrieve the files from a disk, just use Dpkg
[01:40] <BiSK-8> send files 2 another bluetooth device atha
[01:40] <temperboi> ok thanks..
[01:40] <atha> did the hciconfig show that it's running ok (UP RUNNING etc. line in the output and address and all)
[01:41] <BiSK-8> atha: i wanna send files 2 another bluetooth device
[01:43] <BiSK-8> atha, are you here?
[01:45] <skjsl> nalioth:  Thanks heaps :)! whats the brezzy one for future use
[01:45] <BiSK-8> nalioth, can u help me?
[01:45] <nalioth> skjsl: http://giannaros.org/tor/bt/
[01:45] <skjsl> :D
[01:45] <nalioth> BiSK-8: i can only recommend asking uncle google for "linux bluetooth manager" or something like that (i have no bluetooth or ideas)
[01:46] <BiSK-8> ok
[01:46] <BiSK-8> thx
[01:49] <MrLaminar> hi
[01:49] <MrLaminar> how can i copy tahoba*.ttf from my windows installation to ubuntu and enable it?
[01:50] <MrLaminar> oopps... tahoma*.ttf
[01:51] <Jowi> MrLaminar, i guess you just put it somewhere in /usr/share/fonts
[01:52] <Jowi> MrLaminar, there is also a way to make the font only available to a specific user by placing it in /home/user/.fonts
[01:52] <atha> BiSK-8: are you sending to a mobile phone or what?
[01:52] <atha> or another linux computer or windows?
[01:52] <MrLaminar> thanks jowi, do i have to update anything else?
[01:53] <Jowi> it takes awhile for the font to get updated
[01:53] <MrLaminar> ok, it did now
[01:53] <MrLaminar> thx
[01:53] <Jowi> MrLaminar, should be automatic.... i think... ehhhh.
[01:53] <Jowi> :)
[01:53] <atha> BiSK-8: check that you have "gnome-bluetooth" package installed "sudo apt-get install gnome-bluetooth"
[01:53] <Tooheys> can anyone tell me if I install ubuntu can I still use my bluetooth adapter?
[01:54] <Tooheys> ohh hehehe what timing!
[01:54] <atha> after that, you can send files from command line using "gnome-obex-send filename" and a GUI appears which shows other bluetooth devices
[01:54] <gorilla> hi all, does anyone know of a pastebin that allows you to attach binaries (images).
[01:55] <housetier> imgshack or so allows to post images
[01:55] <atha> I think I saw a nautilus extension sometimes which provided a rigth-click context menu entry for bluetooth sending
[01:55] <glick> excuse me, im trying to run a progam and i get this error message
[01:55] <glick> Qt: Locales not supported on X server
[01:55] <glick> cannot handle file 'libc.so.6' with TLS data
[01:56] <glick> does anyone know what thats all about>
[01:56] <Jowi> gorilla, you can host them on your freshly installed apache webserver :)
[01:57] <gorilla> Jowi, I though of that... Not when I am behind a ADSL modem that is a piece of shit.. but stuck with it...
[01:58] <Eddy_> hello
[01:58] <Jowi> gorilla, ah. point taken.
[01:58] <coobra> lol
[01:59] <Eddy_> anyone to help me with a problem involving GRUB/MBR/ubuntu install on a laptop comp ? been spending 5 hours on it and still stuck =/
[01:59] <Jowi> Eddy_, be more precise ...
[01:59] <glick> hey can linux run programs for macOSX?
[01:59] <Eddy_> well it's quite long, that's why i'm not more specific
[02:00] <Jowi> Eddy_, what is the symptoms and where did it fail your boot?
[02:00] <dmacdonald111> Hi all. I have managed to get ubuntu to register lo & eth0 as it registers correctly, but I still seem to be unable to connect to the internet with the wireless lan. Can anyone help?
[02:00] <Eddy_> i installed breezy over hoary, asking the partitions to be formatted. it did, but when it tried to install GRUB, it failed. i rebooted, and GRUB is missing (Error 15). so i tried to install again, but then it doesn't find my partitions, it only displays "??? ???". using the RIP tool, though, it DOES find my partitions, so all hope is not lost. but i need help to make the install working (finding my partitions)
[02:01] <kemik> Eddy_:  since you've no stuff on your partitions, just make a clean install again
[02:01] <kemik> with hoary
[02:01] <Jowi> dmacdonald111, wireless lan... are you connecting to a  router or does it go through another computer?
[02:01] <kemik> and wait for breezy to be released
[02:02] <dmacdonald111> Jowi: Its through a router.
[02:02] <Jowi> dmacdonald111, can you ping the router?
[02:02] <Eddy_> kemik it is very possible that this won't solve the problem, so i don't feel like going through 10 hours of download just to reinstall hoary, and to have to install breezy all over again in two weeks
[02:03] <dmacdonald111> Jowi: No. I mean, I know how to do it, but it doesn't ping.
[02:03] <kemik> keep forgetting not everyone have 10mbit internetaccess
[02:03] <Jowi> dmacdonald111, do you recieve an ip address from the router or have you configured the card to a static address?
[02:04] <hutgyrr> if I was in depth in the filesystem say /var/lib/program/com/file and then I changed to /tmp, is there a quic way to go back to that long directory?
[02:04] <glick> damn im trying to run this IC program with no successs
[02:04] <johnnybezak> bloody hell i've got debian on my server, i want to put ubuntu on it so bad
[02:04] <Eddy_> Jowi any clue then ?
[02:05] <dmacdonald111> Jowi: I have tried with both a static ip address and without. Just for reference, I am currently using the livecd for mepis linux (also debian based) and I don't even need to configure here.
[02:05] <intelikey> johnnybezak: why ?
[02:05] <bimberi> hutgyrr: cd $OLDPWD
[02:05] <Jowi> Eddy_, not really....
[02:05] <hutgyrr> bimberi: neat
[02:05] <johnnybezak> intelikey: packages mainly. everything i want ubuntu just has, debian doesn't. i'm just used to ubuntu i suppose, the little differences are enough to give me the sh*ts
[02:06] <hutgyrr> what does PWD stand for
[02:06] <Jowi> dmacdonald111, what ip and subnet do you get from the router?
[02:06] <cafuego_> path working directory
[02:06] <intelikey> present working dir.
[02:06] <cafuego_> or that
[02:06] <cafuego_> basically, the dir you're in.
[02:06] <hutgyrr> ah, and is there a way to see other variables like that
[02:06] <vader1102> cafuego, good morning
[02:06] <atha> it seems that bluetooth plugin is missing from the breezy package of nautilus-sendto - I wonder is it intentionally or unintentionally
[02:06] <Jowi> Eddy_, i have not tried Breezy yet
[02:06] <cafuego_> hutgyrr: type 'set'.
[02:07] <cafuego_> vader1102: evenin'
[02:07] <vader1102> lol
[02:07] <Eddy_> i don't think it's breezy related
[02:07] <Skid> hm, isn't openvpn server in apt repo's? :o
[02:07] <Eddy_> i would like to know how to reset my MBR, much like the fdisk /mbr command
[02:07] <kemik> Eddy_:  that's how you do it
[02:07] <kemik> Eddy_:  if you got a livecd etc
[02:07] <vader1102> I am using Breezy right now and love it....it does what I have asked it to do. and more
[02:07] <kemik> but i guess GRUB is fubar'ed then
[02:07] <cafuego_> !find openvpn
[02:08] <ubotu> openvpn: (Virtual Private Network daemon), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1.99+2.rc6-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 279 kB, Installed size: 840 kB
[02:08] <kemik> vader1102:  good for you.. but that's not the case for everyone
[02:08] <Skid> server :P
[02:08] <Eddy_> i can burn a livecd, but how would i do the "fdisk /mbr" equivalent from there ?
[02:08] <Skid> not client
[02:08] <Skid> oh
[02:08] <Skid> hm, wtf
[02:08] <Eddy_> "fubar'ed" ? sorry, not english =)
[02:08] <vader1102> kemik, I know....just had to put in my 2 cents worth..I will be quiet now
[02:08] <Skid> fubar was a term used in WW2 (or 1 now can't remember) meaning f**ked up beyond all recognision
[02:08] <hutgyrr> what kind of use could you have to mess around with a VPN at home
[02:08] <kemik> Eddy_:  fucked up beyond all recognition
[02:08] <Eddy_> oh that
[02:08] <Eddy_> yeah, quite so
[02:08] <Eddy_> =)
[02:09] <dmacdonald111> Jowi: I get ip as 192.168.1.2. But subnet?
[02:09] <cafuego_> 192.168.1.0 255.255.255.0
[02:09] <kemik> Eddy_:  i think you should try "reinstalling grub"
[02:09] <bzimage> c class adress... private use: subnet 255.255.255.0
[02:09] <kemik> or something
[02:09] <kemik> !grub
[02:09] <ubotu> I guess grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[02:09] <Jowi> dmacdonald111, "ifconfig" will show you. look for "mask"
[02:10] <Eddy_> i'll look into that again, but the problem is that when i first tried to install it, within the regular ubuntu install, it CRASHED
[02:10] <dmacdonald111> Jowi: ah, 255.255.255.0
[02:10] <Jowi> dmacdonald111, that is correct for your ip address
[02:10] <Eddy_> and further attempts saw it crash again
[02:11] <kemik> Eddy_:  well, that cant be good
[02:11] <Eddy_> no, but since RIP sees the partition table correctly, that is not too bad either
[02:11] <glick> do you guys think that the windows version of interactive C will work on wine?
[02:11] <dmacdonald111> Jowi: Currently (with mepis as I'm using now) I get lo and wlan0 from ifconfig, but in ubuntu I have lo & eth0
[02:11] <hutgyrr> would there be a way to set your own variables up for say last three working directorys?
[02:11] <johnnybezak> how do I install a .deb that I've d/led
[02:11] <johnnybezak> ?
[02:11] <hutgyrr> dpgk
[02:11] <havoc> dpkg -i blah.deb
[02:11] <teenie> is there a online    games for uuubuntu?
[02:11] <ishit> juicy ripper not workin anyone any idea
[02:11] <irvin> teenie: yup
[02:12] <johnnybezak> teenie: what sort of machine do you have?
[02:12] <ubuntuguy> does anyone know how to roll back using bazaar(bzr)?
[02:12] <intelikey> Eddy_: i have to agree with the eariler advice.   just reinstall the system.    something is "fubar"  there.
[02:12] <teenie> ubuntu
[02:12] <bimberi> hutgyrr: you could write your own cd command (as a shell script) to do it
[02:12] <teenie> what machine?
[02:12] <Eddy_> intelikey i am willing to reinstall the system, except that the system does not see any partition in the partition table, but that ominous "??? ???" line
[02:12] <ishit> is there much difference betwen hoary n breezy
[02:13] <ubuntuguy> the bazaar wiki doesn't cover roll back. anyone out there use bzr?
[02:13] <ishit> ANYONE
[02:13] <intelikey> so use a live cd or something and fix your partitions then reinstalllllll
[02:13] <glick> has anyone used interactive C on linux
[02:13] <ishit> huh
[02:14] <Eddy_> intelikey and how would i do that please ?
[02:14] <intelikey> cfdisk
[02:14] <cafuego_> Interactive C?
[02:14] <ubuntuguy> anyone know where I can get more help, info or tutorial on bazaar?
[02:14] <Jowi> dmacdonald111, yes. you must run iwconfig to set up the wireless part. you need wlan0
[02:15] <cafuego_> hutgyrr: use the 'pushd' and 'popd' commands.
[02:15] <Eddy_> using the RIP tool, cfdisk had no option about fixing the partition table. i mean, i could mess with it, but there was nothing like "fix the mbr" or "rewrite the mbr" or whatnot
[02:15] <ubuntuguy> this is all I can find http://bazaar.canonical.com/Documentation#head-ddbe42596fd234725872d19faa85c3cf28301c34
[02:15] <Jowi> dmacdonald111, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[02:16] <intelikey> no not the mbr.   the partitions   then let grub take care of mbr
[02:17] <Eddy_> intelikey what do you call "fix the partitions" then ? aas i've said, RIP recognizes them no problem, so i don't see what i'm supposed to "fix" there
[02:17] <dmacdonald111> Jowi: I have tried to use iwconfig wlan0, but I just get device not found
[02:17] <Jowi> dmacdonald111, and eth0 should not be enabled once you get the wlan configured.
[02:17] <Jowi> ubotu, tell dmacdonald111 about wireless
[02:18] <Jowi> dmacdonald111, have a look at that linkn ubotu gave you.
[02:19] <dmacdonald111> Jowi: Yes, I have been there and I need ndiswrapper (which I have) but I don't seem to be able to find the bcmwl5a.inf file. I have been searching for it for over a day now. :(
[02:19] <intelikey> Eddy_: let me see if i understand you.   when installing ub the partitioner cant find any partitions.  but "RIP" what ever that is. sees them just fine .....    and the problem is not breezy specific.....  ?    hmmm   maybe reinstall hoary ????
[02:19] <[bugi] > Hello, where can i find OOo RC1 for Hoary?
[02:20] <glick> hey how do i install a windows application with wine?
[02:20] <Jowi> dmacdonald111, can't help you there.
[02:20] <dmacdonald111> okay. Thanks for your help though :)
[02:20] <Eddy_> intelikey RIP is Recovery Is Possible, a Recovery tool that is recommended by plenty for dealing with MBR problems among other things.
[02:21] <Eddy_> and the problem arose when installing GRUB
[02:21] <glick> how do i install a windows program with wine?
[02:21] <Eddy_> so i THINK that the problem is GRUB related
[02:21] <dmacdonald111> Jowi: I can find it as a .exe - can I use that?
[02:21] <Eddy_> that GRUB mucked up the partition table, and so i want to FIX IT
[02:21] <Eddy_> not install anything else
[02:21] <cafuego_> glick: wine foo.exe and cross your fingers
[02:21] <glick> hehe
[02:21] <Jowi> dmacdonald111, the driver is sort of vital :) no idea about that .exe. perhaps with wine.
[02:21] <glick> thanks
[02:21] <intelikey> so fix it.
[02:22] <glick> god i hope this works
[02:22] <Eddy_> intelikey why do you hang here if you do that kind of answer ?
[02:22] <dmacdonald111> Thank you Jowi. I hadn't thought about wine. I shall give that a go
[02:22] <cafuego_> note that foo.exe needs to be somewhere ona  drive mapped under wine. (try /home or /tmp)
[02:22] <cafuego_> glick: What app?
[02:22] <Eddy_> i mean, i thought it was about helping people, not answering like that.
[02:23] <glick> cafuego, interactive C
[02:23] <glick> it says it installed fine
[02:23] <glick> so where would i run it from?>
[02:23] <teenie> is there anybody who have tried turbolinux?
[02:24] <cafuego_> glick: Where did you install it to?
[02:24] <cafuego_> glick: check .wine/c_drive/Program Files/...
[02:25] <glick> cafuego, yeah i see it
[02:25] <cafuego_> when again wine foo.exe
[02:25] <glick> ls
[02:25] <cafuego_> .
[02:25] <cafuego_> ..
[02:26] <cafuego_> Password:
[02:27] <flux_> What should i type in console to configure WINE?
[02:27] <intelikey> wine[tab] 
[02:28] <intelikey>  [tab]  = the tab key
[02:28] <intelikey> bash tab compleation is your friend
[02:29] <bzimage> [tab] 
[02:29] <ayeizajedi> hi everyone
[02:29] <bzimage> *yay*
[02:29] <flux_> How do i start WINE?
[02:30] <benno> hi, my ubuntu hoary gnome closes programs when i minimize them, instead of putting them to a panel-tab... whats wrong?
[02:30] <whyameye> Is there a something like ndiswrapper for modems?
[02:30] <Jowi> flux_, you don't "start" it as such. you run exe files with it.
[02:30] <intelikey> wine <windows-program>
[02:30] <intelikey> wine <path>/notepad.exe
[02:30] <flux_> How du i install ATC Radar Screen(its on desktop)
[02:30] <teenie> how to play yahoo music her in ubuntu?
[02:30] <cafuego_> Well, you can use binfmt-misc and wine to tweak .exe's to run via wine automagically.
[02:30] <teenie> how to play yahoo music her in ubuntu?
[02:30] <teenie> how to play yahoo music her in ubuntu?
[02:31] <cafuego_> teenie: stop repeating
[02:31] <teenie> ok
[02:31] <flux_> What is binfmt-misc?
[02:31] <teenie> im ssory
[02:31] <teenie> im ssory
[02:31] <ayeizajedi> lol
[02:31] <teenie> how to play yahoo music her in ubuntu?
[02:31] <dpro\> teenie, do you have mplayer?
[02:31] <teenie> nothin
[02:32] <cafuego_> flux_: a way of using file magic (see /etc/magic) to automagically run interpreted executables. So you cna say make a .jar file execitable and automatically run 'java -jar foo.jar' when you type ./foo.jar. Same applies to .exe and wine.
[02:32] <teenie> where i can get that/
[02:32] <dpro\> teenie, open a terminal, type sudo apt-get install mplayer-386
[02:32] <flux_> cafuego, have you MSN?
[02:32] <glick> when i try to set the com port in my windows app i get this...
[02:32] <glick> fixme:comm:SetupComm insize 2048 outsize 2048 unimplemented stub
[02:32] <glick> fixme:comm:SetCommState RTS_CONTROL_TOGGLE is not supported.
[02:32] <glick> IC: Serial port (pre)connected
[02:33] <cafuego_> The first two letters of that acronym should tell you...
[02:33] <glick> i guess that means im screwed right?
[02:33] <dpro\> teenie, and then in a terminal type mplayer the url to the radiostream
[02:33] <flux_> ?
[02:35] <hutgyrr> when you install apache on ubuntu the debian placeholder page comes up
[02:35] <cafuego_> yes
[02:36] <flux_> Is it someone speaking norwegian here?
[02:36] <hutgyrr> why hasn't it been changed?
[02:36] <dpro\> flux_, jeg taler dansk hvis det kan hjlpe
[02:36] <flux_> Fint;)
[02:36] <flux_> Vet du hvordan jeg setter opp Wine?
[02:37] <dpro\> flux_, du har installeret det, ikke?
[02:37] <glick> any way i can run a macOS X program in linux?
[02:37] <flux_> jo...
[02:37] <teenie> cccouldnt find the package
[02:37] <dpro\> flux_, virker det s ikke nr du skriver wine og sti til programmet som skal kre?
[02:38] <flux_> ok
[02:38] <flux_> Hvordan gjr jeg det ved  starte noe p skrivebordet?
[02:38] <dpro\> flux_, "wine /sti/til/filen/som/ligger/p/skrivebordet/lalalal.exe
[02:39] <skjsl> wiill anyoff this http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[02:39] <deFrysk> !se
[02:39] <skjsl> run .mov?
[02:39] <ubotu> No idea, deFrysk
[02:39] <flux_> /home/flux/Desktop/Setup.exe?
[02:39] <deFrysk> !norge
[02:39] <ubotu> deFrysk: Not a clue
[02:39] <deFrysk> tss
[02:39] <flux_> deFRYSk,er du norsk?
[02:39] <dpro\> flux_, ja bare med wine frst
[02:39] <skjsl> sorry
[02:40] <skjsl> slip of the keys
[02:40] <deFrysk> no you guys should go to #ubuntu-no or something
[02:40] <dpro\> wine /home/flux/Desktop/Setup.exe
[02:40] <deFrysk> this is ang english channel folks
[02:40] <flux_> flux@xp1700:~$ wine /home/flux/Desktop/Setup.exe
[02:40] <flux_> bash: wine: command not found
[02:40] <skjsl> http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs if i follow this will .movs work for me?
[02:41] <dpro\> flux_, du har installeret wine, ikke?
[02:41] <deFrysk> skjsl, ubuntuguide is evil
[02:41] <skjsl> lol
[02:41] <skjsl> too true
[02:41] <deepwoodz> i'm trying to install a tarbell and every time i type su it tells me to type in my password and i type it in and it says authentication failure
[02:41] <flux_> jo... Det er installert
[02:41] <deFrysk> dpro\, this is ang english only channel
[02:41] <deepwoodz> can anyone help?
[02:41] <whyameye> skjsl, it should, if you install mplayer and the mplayer plug-in (if you wish to watch .movs in firefox)
[02:41] <flux_> Har du MSN dpro\?
[02:41] <deFrysk> flux_, please
[02:42] <kanwar> jowi, you there?
[02:42] <Jowi> deepwoodz, try "sudo su"
[02:42] <whyameye> skjsl, I found some.movs don't play correctly, and you can also play .movs using Apple Quicktime and Wine.
[02:42] <Jowi> kanwar, yep, just got back
[02:42] <deepwoodz> ok thanks
[02:42] <dpro\> deFrysk, sorry
[02:42] <kanwar> jowi, it worked!
[02:42] <mahangu> gnutella, edonkey client for ubuntu?
[02:42] <kanwar> i compiled and loaded sk98lin finally
[02:42] <skjsl> whyameye: will totem do it
[02:42] <Jowi> superb kanwar :)
[02:42] <kanwar> earlier it had something like skge loaded
[02:42] <skjsl> whyameye: mplayer is unstable for me
[02:42] <deepwoodz> thanks alot
[02:43] <kanwar> hey thanks to you for helping me out ... it was quite frustrating trying to figure it out alone!
[02:43] <Tooheys> before i get all excited about isntalling ubunto does it recognise sata drives ?
[02:43] <Jowi> kanwar, no probs. glad i could be of some use
[02:43] <whyameye> skjsl, yes totem will do it.
[02:43] <kanwar> *grin* now to try and install it on my Compaq nc6220 laptop and configure the wifi hehehe
[02:43] <Tooheys> I tried the live cd but could not find my windows hard drives ?
[02:44] <Jowi> kanwar, you really enjoy deep troublesome waters, haha
[02:44] <XHK> How do i install deb files?
[02:44] <cafuego_> Tooheys: Yes, it does.
[02:44] <kanwar> jowi, that's how i plan to learn everything :)
[02:44] <Jowi> XHK, dpkg -i package.deb
[02:44] <XHK> ty
[02:45] <kanwar> jowi, everything that i can, that is
[02:45] <Tooheys> cafuego: cheers. where are they ?
[02:45] <whyameye> XHK download the .deb file, then type dpkg -i <filename>
[02:45] <cafuego_> Tooheys: In your computer?  ;-)  They show up as SCSI. sda etc.
[02:45] <Tooheys> cafuego: hehe. I looked in mount and dev and couldnt seem to find anything that ressembled my windows ntfs drives ?
[02:45] <Jowi> kanwar, same here :)
[02:46] <cafuego_> !ntfs
[02:46] <joachim_> hi
[02:46] <cafuego_> Tooheys: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[02:46] <cafuego_> Tooheys: That scans for NTFS etc partitions.
[02:46] <Tooheys> cafuego does !ntfs mean out of the box the ubuntu distro won't read windows drives?
[02:46] <Tooheys> ahh ok, i will try it..
[02:47] <cafuego_> Tooheys: it will, you just need to mount 'em.
[02:47] <kanwar> thanks jowi ... i'll sign off tonight ... i am here in Sydney, Australia and its sleep time ... 11.00 pm almost
[02:47] <XHK> it will say   Package libqt3c102-mt is not installed.
[02:47] <whyameye> I have a modem with an ESS chipset. From what I could learn on Google, ESS and Linux don't play well together. Is there a wrapper for windows drivers for modems, something like what ndiswrapper is for wireless?
[02:47] <Jowi> cu kanwar
[02:47] <cafuego_> Amazing, it's nowhere near bed time in Melbourne
[02:47] <joachim_>  which gnome package handles folder sharing?
[02:48] <cafuego_> joachim_: by default, either samba or nfs.
[02:48] <Tooheys> its 10:47pm here on the mid-north coast.. sleep is a few hours away hehe
[02:48] <Tooheys> I hope it's a Tooheys Extra Dry and not that shithouse VB you mexicans like to drink :P
[02:48] <joachim_> I don't have either installed yet -- I'm getting a 'Sharing services are not installed' warning. is that just a part of nautilus?
[02:48] <cafuego_> Speaking of which. Now's as good a time as any.
[02:48] <Jowi> for a moment there i thought "beers" was "beds"
[02:49] <Jowi> lol
[02:49] <skjsl> whyameye: um what is the name of the package that runs .mov?
[02:49] <cafuego_> Tooheys: I'm a cultured European, thankyou.
[02:49] <joachim_> I want to file an enhancemnet in bugzilla
[02:49] <cafuego_> Tooheys: Not some filthy convict ;-)
[02:49] <Tooheys> cafuego: hehe wog ?
[02:49] <cafuego_> clog wog
[02:49] <cafuego_> (no aussie passport)
[02:50] <Tooheys> me too :P
[02:50] <gorilla> Tooheys: a terrible aussie beer.
[02:50] <whyameye> skjsl, it's a codec you need. It's been awhile. If I remember right, install totem-xine and w32codecs.
[02:51] <Tooheys> Extra Dry is awesome!
[02:51] <XHK> Why i cant open mp3's?
[02:51] <glick> can i in anyway run a mac os X program in linux?
[02:51] <Jowi> ubotu, tell XHK about mp3
[02:52] !lilo:*! Hi all. If you're in Houston, Texas and you have an unused Vonage telephone adapter you'd like to donate to PDPC, please message me. Thanks!
[02:52] <Jowi> XHK, extra software need to be installed. follow ubotus lead :)
[02:52] <mjr> glick, on linux/ppc, you can run mac os x under mac-on-linux. On other architectures, you may be able to use pearpc or qemu (though slowly)
[02:52] <glick> hmm pearpc?
[02:52] <Tooheys> hey got a question, is there any .net stuff avail in linux, linux compilers, emulators or even a port of the virtual machine thinggy ?
[02:53] <arkanes> Tooheys: google for mono
[02:53] <Nermal> go-mono.com
[02:53] <Nermal> full .net implementation
[02:53] <onkarshinde> Tooheys: I suppose Mono is partial implementation of .NET on linux
[02:53] <Nermal> pretty much
[02:53] <onkarshinde> !mono
[02:53] <ubotu> onkarshinde: I don't know, could you explain it?
[02:53] <Tooheys> interesting!
[02:53] <glick> yeah but i have to run the entire macOS X OS for that
[02:54] <intelikey> !stats
[02:54] <Nameless12>  can someone tell me how to make all files in a dir automaticly be ch777 (i am sick of chmoding files in my webroot directory after i create them)
[02:54] <Nermal> umask it
[02:55] <Nermal> umask 000 it
[02:55] <Tooheys> haha this is ironic!! "is positioned to become the leading choice for development of Linux applications"... lmafo a MS technology becomes the leading linux tech
[02:55] <onkarshinde> ubotu: mono is implementation of .NET framework on linux. It supports winforms partially. For details www.go-mono.com
[02:55] <ubotu> onkarshinde: okay
[02:56] <Tooheys> ohh so I guess web application and services etc are out of the question :(
[02:56] <BiSK-8> hello
[02:56] <onkarshinde> Tooheys: It is not about MS technology. It makes you easy to write program in your choice of language and then run it on any platform where Mono is available.
[02:56] <onkarshinde> BiSK-8: hi
[02:56] <BiSK-8> i get this error when using the ./configure option: configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[02:56] <BiSK-8>  , what do i need 2 install?
[02:57] <Tooheys> onkarshinde ahhhh...
[02:57] <Nermal> BiSK-8: shockingly, the XML:: Parser perl module
[02:57] <Nermal> :)
[02:57] <atha> BiSK-8: libxml-parser-perl
[02:57] <joachim_> how do I find what process a window belongs to?
[02:57] <onkarshinde> BiSK-8: What are you trying to install?
[02:57] <BiSK-8> atha, thx
[02:57] <intelikey> perl-xml something....
[02:58] <BiSK-8> onkarshide, the gnome-gluetooth system
[02:58] <atha> gnome-bluetooth can be installed fine with apt-get
[02:58] <BiSK-8> i know
[02:58] <BiSK-8> i tried
[02:58] <BiSK-8> but 1 sec
[02:58] <onkarshinde> BiSK-8: Do you mean bluetooth? It can be installed with synaptic or apt-grt
[02:58] <BiSK-8> ill show u what happenes
[02:58] <onkarshinde> BiSK-8: Please don't paste here
[02:58] <BiSK-8> bluetooth
[02:59] <BiSK-8> yes
[02:59] <BiSK-8> sry
[02:59] <BiSK-8> i wont
[02:59] <onkarshinde> Paste into pastebin
[02:59] <BiSK-8> its only wine
[02:59] <BiSK-8> line*
[03:00] <BiSK-8> oh
[03:00] <BiSK-8> it sais that its at its latest version
[03:00] <BiSK-8> but there are 315 updates
[03:00] <onkarshinde> BiSK-8: So what is problem?
[03:01] <BiSK-8> how do i run it?
[03:01] <Nermal> apt-get upgrade ?
[03:01] <onkarshinde> It must be somewhere in Applications menu
[03:01] <Nermal> erm.. from the gnome menu ?
[03:01] <BiSK-8> its not there
[03:01] <BiSK-8> thats what's the prob
[03:01] <onkarshinde> BiSK-8: Did you check all menus?
[03:01] <BiSK-8> yes
[03:02] <BiSK-8> 1sec
[03:02] <atha> so are you trying to send files or receive or what?
[03:02] <BiSK-8> ill try rebooting
[03:02] <Nermal> isn't gnome-bluetooth so you can go bluetooth:/// in nautilus ?
[03:02] <BiSK-8> both
[03:02] <BiSK-8> possibily send
[03:02] <Nermal> BiSK-8: don't bother
[03:02] <BiSK-8> dont bother?
[03:02] <Nermal> to reboot
[03:02] <BiSK-8> with what?
[03:02] <BiSK-8> oh
[03:02] <BiSK-8> there
[03:03] <BiSK-8> i tried it again
[03:03] <Nermal>  go bluetooth:/// in nautilus
[03:03] <atha> BiSK-8: gnome-obex-send filename
[03:03] <onkarshinde> Nermal: I had problems sometime with menu entries not getting updated after some install.
[03:03] <BiSK-8> and its in the menu
[03:03] <BiSK-8> so what should i do?
[03:03] <BiSK-8> upgrade?
[03:03] <onkarshinde> Nermal: I think he should at least logout and logout
[03:03] <onkarshinde> I mean login
[03:03] <BiSK-8> or apt-get update
[03:03] <Tooheys> how do linux programmers make a living, if everyone wants free software ?
[03:03] <BiSK-8> hahaha
[03:03] <BiSK-8> good question
[03:03] <onkarshinde> BiSK-8: So did you find it in Menu?
[03:03] <apokryphos> Tooheys: normally it's a hobbie, but if you're real good you get money/sponsored
[03:04] <BiSK-8> yes
[03:04] <BiSK-8> i did
[03:04] <BiSK-8> but it wont open
[03:04] <XHK> Why i dont have sounds? :S
[03:04] <BiSK-8> i'll reboot
[03:04] <BiSK-8> or log out and in
[03:04] <BiSK-8> brb
[03:04] <Tooheys> apokryphos but get money for what?
[03:04] <atha> what doesn't open
[03:04] <atha> bluetooth file sharing is just a receiving server
[03:04] <onkarshinde> BiSK-8: There must be two entries related to bluetooth. One is device manager
[03:04] <atha> from the menu
[03:04] <apokryphos> Tooheys: for being a dedicated dev; suffice it to say you have to be pretty dang good though
[03:04] <atha> and it shows in the tray area of upper panel
[03:05] <apokryphos> Tooheys: all big projects get sponsors; developers in gnome, ubuntu, kde, linux kernel etc
[03:05] <onkarshinde> XHK: Can you explain the problem with detail? Which sound card?
[03:06] <onkarshinde> Tooheys: Some companies their employees to work on open source projects, because they get benefit from those projects.
[03:06] <Tooheys> apokryphos: hmm this is the one thing that turns me off. I dont have a job, and atm I'm doing mobile phone games (making a little money) but would like to support myself doing applicaion development. Linux on the otherhand really doesnt allow for this?
[03:06] <XHK> onkarshinde: nvidia sound card, yesterday was everything ok
[03:06] <apokryphos> Tooheys: no; you can't really think of getting into Linux/development "for the money"
[03:06] <onkarshinde> XHK: Did you change any setting?
[03:07] <XHK> onkarshinde: No
[03:07] <apokryphos> Tooheys: unless you're very good ;-). Canonical, for example, sponsors many Ubuntu developers
[03:07] <XHK> onkarshinde: When i started computer, sound was muted, i unmuted it, but still no sound
[03:07] <onkarshinde> Tooheys: You can make custom applications in linux for small companies into your town.
[03:07] <henk> hmm why apokryphos  & Tooheys why do you tink it's impossible to make comercial applications that run on linux ?
[03:08] <apokryphos> henk: never said it was; it sure isn't (it's been done many-a-time).
[03:08] <onkarshinde> XHK: Are you logged in as a user who doesn't have access to sound card? Or have you checked that esd is started?
[03:09] <XHK> onkarshinde: I dont know,  I have only one user...
[03:09] <Tooheys> hmmm I just really cannot understand the motivation to dev for free, when you have a family to support etc.. and i tend to feel hobby programmers and their applications are a little short of being polished (thus soo many bugs)..
[03:09] <Jowi> XHK, did you disable the soundserver startup in gnome->system->prefs->sound ?
[03:09] <onkarshinde> XHK: can you tell me output of command 'ps-ef|grep esd' (without quotes?
[03:09] <apokryphos> Tooheys: they don't *all* do it for free, but most surely do. Suffice it to say your latter point doesn't really hold up; kde and gnome are, for the majority, volunteer efforts
[03:10] <henk> apokryphos,  it seemed like you meant that getting into development of applications on linux was not profitable. Not all applications build to run on a linux machine need to be free (or open source for that matter)
[03:10] <XHK> Jowi: it is enabled
[03:10] <apokryphos> henk: never said that, and of course you can -- yes
[03:10] <onkarshinde> Tooheys: When Richard Stallman left his job and started GNU project he taught programming in colleges for earning money to fund his effort got GNU
[03:10] <henk> hmm than i must have misread your remak to Tooheys
[03:11] <Tooheys> but there are just soo many little snags to watch out for. (i really dont know..) like the gun licences and stuff like that if you use anything attached to license in your own developments your screwed..
[03:11] <XHK> onkarshinde: umm it says command not found
[03:11] <Tooheys> *gnu
[03:11] <henk> Tooheys, as long as you don't copy code from some open source project but write it yourself you have nothing to do with a gnu open source licence
[03:11] <onkarshinde> XHK: Do as Jowi said.
[03:12] <XHK> onkarshinde: I did so, it was enabled
[03:12] <henk> just like in windows you can write your own closed software
[03:12] <Tooheys> ohhh, but what if I use glib for ex ?
[03:12] <onkarshinde> Tooheys: LGPL allows you to use some open source libraries and still keep your program closed.
[03:13] <Tooheys> ahh.
[03:13] <henk> as far as i know glib does not require you to open the programs you compile with it
[03:13] <Tooheys> but then again who is going to want to even pay $5 for something I develop if in a few weeks after I release it someone does it for free, based of my idea..
[03:13] <onkarshinde> XHK: Sorry the command was ps -ef|grep esd (note the space)
[03:13] <Hendric> i installed ubuntu... and created 1 fat32 partition and mounted it on /windows (during installation).. but while im on the ubuntu system.. logged in as a user.. i can't write to /windows.. and can't even change its permission
[03:13] <Hendric> how can i make it writable by all users
[03:14] <onkarshinde> Hendric: You need to provide an option umask=000 to mount command or include in /etc/fstab
[03:14] <rcaskey_> heya all, does anyone else not have a terminal option in breezy ;)
[03:14] <rcaskey_> I used the menu editor to reenable the root terminal but didn't see just plain terminal
[03:14] <henk> Tooheys, that is a problem that all software devloppers have not just the ones on linux. You have to find a way to make something that is usefull to others that makes them want to pay you for it
[03:14] <kemik> rcaskey_:  it's removed in gnome
[03:14] <Ninjew> onkarshinde: Or, you can add the option uid=user or gid=group (the preferable solution being make a group)
[03:15] <kemik> afaik
[03:15] <XHK> onkarshinde:hannes    8637     1  0 15:21 ?        00:00:01 /usr/bin/esd -nobeeps
[03:15] <XHK> hannes   10401  9246  0 16:14 pts/0    00:00:00 grep esd
[03:15] <rcaskey_> kemik: that's okay but err, I'd like to readd it ;)
[03:16] <Hendric> onkarshinde: so it should be like this on fstab: /dev/hda3 /windows vfat umask=000 0 0 <--???
[03:16] <onkarshinde> Ninjew: True. gid=100 maybe. But you will still need umask
[03:16] <Ninjew> onkarshinde: I can't remember what the default umask is for a mounted fat32 partition, doesn't it include group rw as well? Maybe i'm wrong
[03:16] <onkarshinde> Hendric: Right. Additionaly auto,umack=000,gid=100
[03:17] <Hendric> great!
[03:17] <rcaskey_> anyone here know how to force a radeon into dual screen instead of mirror mode?
[03:17] <onkarshinde> Ninjew: I suppose default is 022 and files owned by root
[03:18] <jjazz> rcaskey_:  Does your radeon do merged framebuffers?
[03:18] <Hendric> why does ubuntu doesn't do it when mounting fat32 partition during installation (DISK PARTITIONER)? it defaults to root
[03:18] <rcaskey_> jjazz: dunno
[03:18] <XHK> onkarshinde:hannes    8637     1  0 15:21 ?        00:00:01 /usr/bin/esd -nobeeps
[03:18] <onkarshinde> rcaskey_: Regarding your first question install package nautilus-terminal
[03:18] <jjazz> rcaskey_:  Well, go find out.
[03:18] <rcaskey_> jjazz: one sec
[03:18] <onkarshinde> XHK: What are you trying to play and using which application?
[03:19] <onkarshinde> Hendric: You can add uid=somenumber to fstab line so as files are owned by some user. By defaulr partitions are mounted at boot so owned by root
[03:19] <Hendric> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  <-- should this upgrade my Hoary to Breezy???
[03:20] <Hendric> or i better get the ISO and reinstall??
[03:20] <XHK> onkarshinde: There isn't no sounds at all. And if  i wanna play some music file it will give error or freeze.
[03:20] <rcaskey_> jjazz: don't see any mention of it in my xorg.conf its a 9600 (RV350)
[03:20] <Hendric> i got that one already onkarshinde.. thanks so much
[03:20] <vanguardist> hello
[03:20] <vanguardist> I'm trying to build plib
[03:20] <onkarshinde> Hendric: Provided you have replaced hoary with breezy in /etc/sources.list and done apt-get update first. Just check the channel topic
[03:20] <atha> Hendric: yes, it does, if you have changed the repositories point to breezy ones in sources.list
[03:20] <jjazz> rcaskey_:  The place to look for that info is in your radeon documentation.  If your card supports it, you add it to your xorg.conf.
[03:20] <vanguardist> and I get this error:
[03:20] <vanguardist> checking for glNewList in -lGL... no
[03:20] <vanguardist> checking for glNewList in -lMesaGL... no
[03:20] <vanguardist> configure: error: could not find working GL librar
[03:21] <onkarshinde> XHK: Ok. What type of music and using which application?
[03:21] <atha> and of course apt-get update like onkarshinde wrote
[03:21] <vanguardist> I've installed every dev package for gl/glut/mesa/X that I can think of and it's still not working
[03:21] <vanguardist> any clues as to which one I'm missing?
[03:21] <vanguardist> (low google juice on this one it seems)
[03:21] <onkarshinde> vanguardist: What are you trying to do?
[03:21] <nalioth> vanguardist: use synaptic and search "names and contents"
[03:22] <XHK> onkarshinde: first of all i want sounds back
[03:22] <Hendric> Anyone here got a hotfix for Gyach.. the pixbuffer error that closes the program unexpectedly....
[03:22] <XHK> onkarshinde: Ive tried mp3 with xmms, and with default players
[03:22] <rcaskey_> jjazz: I think those only work with the propriatary driver right?
[03:22] <Jowi> XHK, well, did you change gnome->system->prefs->multimediasomething->default output sink to ALSA or something?
[03:23] <onkarshinde> !ntfs
[03:23] <ubotu> well, ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.
[03:23] <sara> join
[03:23] <rcaskey_> driver is v4l
[03:23] <XHK> Jowi its ESD
[03:23] <jjazz> rcaskey_:  No, I don't think so.  I installed no proprietary drivers on this box, and yet I've got merged FBs going.
[03:23] <onkarshinde> rcaskey_: which card?
[03:23] <XHK> Jowi: Do i have to change it?
[03:23] <onkarshinde> rcaskey_: Specific model number
[03:23] <Jowi> XHK, strange thing. the apps should not freeze. we can try one other thing
[03:24] <rcaskey_> onkarshinde: 9600 (RV350) on PPC
[03:24] <XHK> Jowi: only XMMS freezed
[03:24] <sara> hello
[03:24] <atha> XHK: have you tried to select different output plugin in xmms
[03:25] <Jowi> XHK, ah, only xmms..... what output have you chosen xmms to use? do you have esd plugin for it?
[03:25] <rcaskey_> despite not having mergedfb enable I do have mirror mode right now
[03:25] <XHK> Jowi: I dont know, anyway its not so important now, i want my sounds back.
[03:25] <rcaskey_> even though there is only a 1 screen server laytout
[03:25] <onkarshinde> rcaskey_: There you are. I suppose support for that card is not yet complete. Yet this thing may help you.
[03:25] <onkarshinde> !ati
[03:25] <ubotu> I heard ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[03:26] <XHK> Jowi: Like in gaim there isnt sounds and thats not gaims fault.
[03:26] <basti> could anyone tell me how I got rar support in breezy? I cant seem to locate a rar package with apt
[03:26] <kemik> basti:  maybe unrar-nonfree ?
[03:26] <rcaskey_> onkarshinde: I'm on a mac, I don't think they will have hte propriatary driver ;)
[03:26] <XHK> Jowi: about the xmms, whats hould i do to close it? :P Its freezed right now
[03:26] <basti> kemik, gonna try
[03:26] <Jowi> XHK, no it is not gaims fault. some apps i really need did not play nice with esd so i turned it off for good and have not had a problem since. maybe you should try the same setup as i have
[03:27] <rcaskey_> onkarshinde: why am I seeing anything on the second head at all?
[03:27] <Jowi> XHK, if you want to try it
[03:27] <onkarshinde> rcaskey_: I suppose they have. It is the OS you are using that matters.
[03:27] <ernstp> Anyone has a SoundBlaster Audigy 2 ?
[03:28] <glick> he does anyone recognize this error when trying to run an applications...
[03:28] <glick> Qt: Locales not supported on X server
[03:28] <glick> cannot handle file 'libc.so.6' with TLS data
[03:28] <Jowi> XHK, it will mean however, that you will not have sound when closing apps and minimising windows and such. but at least you will have sound in applications!
[03:28] <Hendric> Does breezy got support for EPSON CX all in one printer/scanner?? they have with HP...
[03:29] <Orbman> Now that breezy is close to release, should i grab hoary or breezy for a new install ?
[03:29] <inc|freaky> does any1 know how i can edit the kmenu? because the link to kcontrol suddenly disapeared and i want to readd it
[03:29] <vanguardist> I'm trying to build plib
[03:29] <vanguardist> and I get this error:
[03:29] <vanguardist> configure: error: could not find working GL librar
[03:29] <vanguardist> I've installed every dev package for gl/glut/mesa/X that I can think of and it's still not working
[03:29] <onkarshinde> glick: Which application?
[03:29] <basti> kemik, there was unrar-free and it installed but I still cant extract
[03:29] <glick> onkarshinde, interactive C 4 for linux
[03:30] <inc|freaky> is the installation of the nvidia driver the same as under debian?
[03:30] <onkarshinde> glick: Is it QT based application?
[03:30] <glick> onkarshinde, i thinks o
[03:30] <glick> i installed kde
[03:30] <glick> still get the same error
[03:30] <Orbman> which should i use for a new install ? breezy or hoary? this is for a normal desktop system...
[03:31] <Nermal> ermm...
[03:31] <onkarshinde> glick: There was no need to install KDE. Install you should install a package something like libqtmt302c**
[03:31] <atha> Orbman: based on my experience, I'd say breezy
[03:31] <Jowi> Orbman, hoary is a sure shot.
[03:31] <onkarshinde> glick: I installed it when I tried to install skype.
[03:32] <onkarshinde> glick: Because skype is QT based.
[03:32] <Jowi> Orbman, considering hoary has had 6 months of maturing
[03:32] <Orbman> Jowi: i can just upgrade when breezy comes out yea ?
[03:32] <apokryphos> yes
[03:32] <onkarshinde> Orbman: Sure you can.
[03:32] <jklsjsdls> sudo apt-get install azureus
[03:32] <Jowi> Orbman, yes you can upgrade. there are alot of ppl here that is using breezy fine as well
[03:32] <jklsjsdls> no go
[03:32] <onkarshinde> Orbman: Read the channel topic
[03:32] <jklsjsdls> :(
[03:33] <Orbman> onkarshinde: yea i was just reading it..
[03:33] <Orbman> hoary it is :) till breezy is out :D
[03:33] <onkarshinde> jklsjsdls: have you enabled all repositories?
[03:33] <glick> onkarshinde, i have libqt3c102-mt installed
[03:33] <jklsjsdls> onkarshinde: yup
[03:34] <basti> could anyone tell me how I can unrar in breezy? kinda sux to have to unrar on another pc...
[03:34] <jklsjsdls> onkarshinde: do you get it in your repos?
[03:34] <Orbman> actually when is breezy meant to be released ?
[03:34] <jklsjsdls> onkarshinde: sudo apt-cache search azureus
[03:34] <Jowi> basti, unrar x package.rar
[03:34] <havoc> Orbman: oct 13th or so
[03:34] <kemik> basti:  that's because you need the "non-free" version.. and it could be in multiverse/universe
[03:34] <onkarshinde> !azureus
[03:34] <ubotu> I guess azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, it can be downloaded from the hoary-extras repository
[03:35] <Jowi> !info unrar
[03:35] <Orbman> ty :)
[03:35] <ubotu> unrar: (Unarchiver for .rar files), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1:0.0.1-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 16 kB, Installed size: 88 kB
[03:35] <onkarshinde> jklsjsdls: Read what ubotu said
[03:35] <jklsjsdls> ubotu: I got my repo list from paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d38
[03:35] <ubotu> jklsjsdls: I don't know, could you explain it?
[03:36] <Jowi> jklsjsdls, ubotu is not a person
[03:36] <onkarshinde> jklsjsdls: You need to add extra repository
[03:36] <onkarshinde> !extra
[03:36] <ubotu> onkarshinde: Bugger all, i dunno
[03:36] <kemik> hehe
[03:36] <jklsjsdls> oh bot
[03:36] <jklsjsdls> dooh
[03:36] <jklsjsdls> hehe
[03:36] <Jowi> :)
[03:36] <onkarshinde> !w32codecs
[03:36] <ubotu> hmm... w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy). 64-bit? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[03:37] <onkarshinde> !hoary-extra
[03:37] <ubotu> onkarshinde: What?
[03:37] <basti> kemik, ah yes thx was in multiverse
[03:37] <onkarshinde> does anyone know path of hoary-extra?
[03:37] <onkarshinde> I think jklsjsdls needs it
[03:37] <scanwinder> you know how there are diff x86 things like 486, 586, 686, what is a pentium one?
[03:37] <Jowi> !dependencies
[03:37] <ubotu> Not a clue, Jowi
[03:37] <kemik> scanwinder:  depends on which pentium...
[03:37] <Jowi> !repositories
[03:37] <ubotu> repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy))
[03:38] <kemik> scanwinder:  586 or 686
[03:38] <scanwinder> kemik: pentium mmx
[03:38] <kemik> scanwinder:  586 the
[03:38] <kemik> then
[03:38] <onkarshinde> jklsjsdls: azureus is in extra repos and you will need to find ita path. May be this will help you.
[03:38] <scanwinder> kemik: ok, thanks
[03:38] <jklsjsdls> onkarshinde: whats the line(s) i need to add to souces.list
[03:38] <ak37> Hoary Extras? -> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras
[03:38] <Jowi> ak37, it was down yesterday. is it back online?
[03:39] <ak37> Jowi, oh I don't know about it
[03:39] <onkarshinde> jklsjsdls: Did you get answer from ak37?
[03:39] <jklsjsdls> yes thanks
[03:39] <jklsjsdls> should i ad a secrity repo to that though?
[03:39] <ak37> Jowi: I can see it through Firefox, it should be online
[03:39] <onkarshinde> Jowi: It is online today
[03:40] <shinu> ubuntu supports usb2 doesnt it?
[03:40] <AcidPils> hi
[03:40] <AcidPils> has anyone else problems playing .ogg files with mplayer?
[03:40] <infornography> can anybody tell me how to suid a program?
[03:40] <onkarshinde> shinu: Yes it does
[03:40] <Jowi> ak37, yeah, but it does not have any files in it. i changed mine to deb http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted + deb http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[03:40] <Jowi> onkarshinde, ah great
[03:40] <shinu> onkarshinde: support is stable isnt it? i read somewhere that its not, but maybe im mistaking with some other distro or something...
[03:41] <Jowi> ak37, temporary offline then :)
[03:41] <nalioth> Jowi: search planet.ubuntulinux.org for the new backports repos (remember b/p are evil)
[03:41] <jklsjsdls> ak37: E: Malformed line 7 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[03:41] <jklsjsdls> :(
[03:41] <onkarshinde> shinu: It is sure stable
[03:41] <shinu> onkarshinde: alright thanks :)
[03:41] <Jowi> cheers nalioth
[03:42] <onkarshinde> jklsjsdls: paste your source.list in pastebin
[03:42] <ak37> jklsjsdls: Whoa? I paste that line from my sources.list
[03:42] <onkarshinde> AcidPils: Never tried. Should play finde with Rhythmbox or Beep oir XMMS
[03:42] <jklsjsdls> ak37: I put it at the bottom is that ok
[03:43] <onkarshinde> jklsjsdls: Should work
[03:43] <ak37> jklsjsdls: Yeah
[03:43] <AcidPils> onkarshinde: it works with xmms, but for listening to webstreams i prefer mplayer
[03:43] <onkarshinde> AcidPils: Doesn't rhythmbox support web streams?
[03:43] <jklsjsdls> I have my contry pre thing in front of the other ubuntu sources
[03:43] <jklsjsdls> (but not yours
[03:44] <onkarshinde> AcidPils: May be some configuration problem with mplayer
[03:44] <jklsjsdls> ak37: is that ok
[03:44] <onkarshinde> jklsjsdls: Yes. Because extra repository is not mirrored. It is not official.
[03:44] <AcidPils> onkarshinde: dont know, never tried that program, i would like to have something for the commandline ;)
[03:45] <ak37> jklsjsdls: Yes
[03:45] <Tooheys> hehe someone tell me a dream linux application that they would pay money for (even $1)
[03:46] <AcidPils> Tooheys: something that makes it easy to config the ati driver ;)
[03:46] <infornography> How can I "suid" a file?
[03:46] <gxc> what means "suid"?
[03:46] <Jowi> infornography, chmod a+s filename is the common way
[03:47] <jklsjsdls> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d2634
[03:47] <onkarshinde> Tooheys: Something that managers in company will never how to configure.
[03:47] <Jowi> ...or was it a+S
[03:47] <infornography> thanks
[03:47] <jklsjsdls> any help
[03:47] <Tooheys> AcidPils: I have a ati raedon 9800, haven't installed linux yet.. trying to get motivation to do so. I dont really need another os as windows is jsut fine for me (developer)..
[03:47] <Jowi> gxc, set user id
[03:47] <Goonie> PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin
[03:47] <Goonie> PHYSDEVPATH=/devices/ide1/1.0
[03:48] <gxc> thanks jowi:)
[03:48] <Tooheys> I want to leave the evil empire that is M$, but dont want to throw away hard earned programming knowledge all for free.. know what i mean...
[03:48] <Tooheys> hehe
[03:48] <onkarshinde> jklsjsdls: In last line add dists after /
[03:49] <Jowi> gxc, np. useful for letting users mount samba shares etc (suid mount). it is considered to be a security risk though
[03:49] <onkarshinde> jklsjsdls: http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists
[03:49] <jklsjsdls> onkarshinde:  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d2634
[03:49] <jklsjsdls> ok cool
[03:50] <wickedpuppy> Tooheys, i suggest you don't move if you don't need it
[03:50] <wickedpuppy> really
[03:50] <wickedpuppy> you will be disappointed
[03:50] <avalost> ahh I wish I had a Tooheys new..
[03:50] <avalost> I fell in love with that beer when was in australia
[03:50] <onkarshinde> Tooheys: Why don't you get some linux certification. That will get you a job and then you will be able to work for opensource.
[03:51] <will_> hey everyone
[03:51] <wickedpuppy> !ping
[03:51] <ubotu> Keep your fingers to yourself, wickedpuppy.
[03:51] <gxc> I'm a programmer too,I need linux,it's a good platform
[03:51] <wickedpuppy> am i lagging bad or what ??
[03:51] <Tooheys> problem is I live in a remote town (no programming roles etc) so what I do atm is for myself to make cash (mobile phone games atm)..
[03:51] <avalost> Tooheys, where in Oz are you?
[03:52] <onkarshinde> Tooheys: There are some places where you can work from home. For example Mozilla Foundation.
[03:52] <Tooheys> avalost hehe try Tooheys Extra Dry next time. I promise you will fall in love with it too.
[03:52] <onkarshinde> gxc: So what is problem?
[03:52] <avalost> Tooheys, if Iever make it back to Oz I will
[03:52] <Tooheys> avalost: in the camden haven area..
[03:52] <n00bster> hello, My mounting points disappears after i reboot..
[03:53] <Tooheys> avalost: halfway between coffs harbour and newcastle and in between no bloody where hehe
[03:53] <wickedpuppy> Tooheys, why not tell us what language you use or what ??
[03:53] <Deanie> got a question, i want smb as part of kernel, ive ran make menuconfig and added smb protocol as Module, an saved the .config,  but what do i do then ?
[03:53] <avalost> Tooheys, I don't know the area, but I spent two months going between sydney and bribane and a little furth north
[03:53] <gxc> hehe, no problem , just like linux,like programming for it
[03:53] <jklsjsdls> onkarshinde:  still the same :(
[03:53] <jklsjsdls> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d2635
[03:53] <Tooheys> atm J2ME for the mobile stuff, and C#.NET for pc applications
[03:54] <Deanie> never touched kernel stuff, well when i did once, i broke it :)
[03:54] <herrpoon> hello anyone thre?
[03:54] <onkarshinde> jklsjsdls: Same error again?
[03:54] <onkarshinde> herrpoon: There are many
[03:54] <jklsjsdls> onkarshinde: im on ubuntu live at the mo if thats a prob
[03:54] <herrpoon> hey!
[03:54] <jklsjsdls> (i have an installed ubuntu with the same setup
[03:55] <jklsjsdls> onkarshinde, yeah same
[03:55] <herrpoon> sorry just using irssi from work, wanted to make sure ut was working
[03:55] <wickedpuppy> Tooheys, as for java thats sun problem ... as for C# , there is mono but ... well i don't recommend it
[03:55] <Tooheys> shamefull plug: http://members.iinet.net.au/~pharg/
[03:55] <onkarshinde> jklsjsdls: Hey the problem is not related to it. But I am not sure how you plan to install applications with Ubuntu live.
[03:56] <jklsjsdls> onkarshinde,: I will on my installed version
[03:56] <elvirolo> hi all
[03:56] <wickedpuppy> jklsjsdls, if installed then use apt-get install <program> or use synaptic
[03:56] <herrpoon> hey
[03:56] <AcidPils> can anyone try  grep 0x73627276 /etc/mplayer/codecs.conf and tell me if there is a hit?
[03:56] <CruX_> hi all
[03:56] <knewt> anyone here use laptop-netconf?
[03:57] <Deanie> got a question, i want smb as part of kernel, ive ran make menuconfig and added smb protocol as Module, an saved the .config,  but what do i do then ?
[03:57] <elvirolo> has anyone managed to install balazar 0.2 (http://home.gna.org/oomadness/en/) ?
[03:57] <onkarshinde> jklsjsdls: can you state error again?
[03:57] <jklsjsdls> onkarshinde: if i borrows ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net can i get the deb there
[03:57] <herrpoon> what do u want to do?
[03:57] <CruX_> can't be resolution in xorg.conf be set via modeline ?
[03:57] <Jowi> AcidPils, nope
[03:58] <n00bster> mounting points disappear after reboot.. eny way to fix it ?
[03:58] <jklsjsdls> E: Malformed line 7 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[03:58] <AcidPils> Jowi: can you play .ogg with mplayer?
[03:58] <ak37> n00bster: How do you mount it in the first place?
[03:58] <onkarshinde> jklsjsdls: I suppose you wanted azureus. Here is the link http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-extras/universe/binary-i386/azureus_2.3.0.0-3~5.04ubp1_all.deb
[03:58] <Jowi> AcidPils, will check
[03:58] <AcidPils> thx
[03:58] <jklsjsdls> :D
[03:58] <n00bster> from bash
[03:59] <ak37> n00bster: You need to enter some lines to /etc/fstab to make it permanent
[03:59] <kemik> !tell n00bster about ntfs
[03:59] <onkarshinde> jklsjsdls: But then you will need to install dependencies also manually.
[03:59] <Jowi> AcidPils, will have to scp some ogg from the other pc
[03:59] <n00bster> after i mount, i can see the new points on fstab..
[03:59] <AcidPils> Jowi: i solved the problem ;)
[03:59] <kemik> n00bster:  "cat /etc/fstab"
[04:00] <AcidPils> rm /etc/mplayer/codecs.conf and it works
[04:00] <sambagirl> will backpack serial port external cd burner work with ubuntu?
[04:00] <kemik> sambagirl:  serialport? ouch.. must be slow
[04:00] <onkarshinde> n00bster: Use following for auto mounting fat or ntfa partitions. http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[04:00] <sambagirl> umm as long as it saving data is not to slow for me :)
[04:01] <n00bster>  I use - sudi mount -t /etc/hda1 /media/hda1
[04:01] <gxc> SATA cd burner??
[04:01] <n00bster> ok.
[04:01] <Jowi> AcidPils, good. just found out it worked :)
[04:01] <onkarshinde> n00bster: Read my above reply
[04:01] <Jowi> AcidPils, what was your prob?
[04:02] <AcidPils> i could not play any .ogg
[04:02] <elvirolo> has anyone managed to compile/install soya 0.10 then ?
[04:02] <sambagirl> let me check their web url
[04:02] <sambagirl> brb
[04:02] <onkarshinde> jklsjsdls: You will have to
[04:02] <Jowi> AcidPils, heh, yeah. but did you get an error?
[04:02] <AcidPils> http://rafb.net/paste/results/NXOTNM91.html <- that
[04:02] <n00bster> I have, ty, i'm traying it now.
[04:02] <pinoyskull> does anybody knows how to disable buffering when playing videos over LAN?
[04:03] <onkarshinde> n00bster: You will have to run it as this 'sudo bash winmac_fstab"
[04:03] <Jowi> AcidPils, alright. and you solved it with -ao i guess
[04:03] <gxc> pinoyskull: over samba?
[04:03] <AcidPils> Jowi: no, with rm /etc/mplayer/codes.conf
[04:03] <n00bster> what's 'winmac_fstab' ?
[04:03] <AcidPils> -ao didnt work
[04:03] <Jowi> AcidPils, oh ok.
[04:03] <pinoyskull> gxc: ya, over samba
[04:03] <onkarshinde> jklsjsdls: You can use http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports as extra repos instead. It works properly.
[04:04] <gxc> pinoyskull: :( I have the same problem
[04:04] <onkarshinde> n00bster: It is a script that will add entries to your fstab by detecting vfat and ntfs partitions. Save that file yo your disc.
[04:04] <pinoyskull> gxc: u fixed it?
[04:04] <Crackstar> after installung ubuntu my system is freezing on loading "starting hotplug subsystem" what can i do?! :/
[04:05] <pinoyskull> Crackstar: just wait for a few seconds, it will continue
[04:05] <n00bster> ok, thank you.
[04:06] <InitMass> any new releases of breezy stuff lately??
[04:06] <gxc> pinoyskull: I use totem-xine, it always stop working for me
[04:06] <Crackstar> pinoyskull no it dont continue and when i start recovery i get the error hw_random: RNG not detected ; hw_random cant be loaded missing kernel or user mode driver hw_random
[04:07] <pinoyskull> gxc: totem or xine, it always buffers before it plays the video, i hate it, in slackware it doesnt do that
[04:07] <sorush20> guys since I upgraded to breezy I've lost my printer..
[04:07] <bretzel> How is Breezy now ? safe to upgrade ?
[04:08] <onkarshinde> bretzel: Not yet.
[04:08] <kemik> bretzel:  13 oct
[04:08] <pinoyskull> bretzel: wait for the final release
[04:08] <ak37> bretzel: I'm on Breezy, but my upgrade wasn't smooth
[04:08] <gxc> me too!does anyone knows how to fix it?
[04:08] <bretzel> 15 days before the Breezy day :-)
[04:08] <Crackstar> hm :(
[04:08] <bretzel> I will wait then thanks
[04:08] <pinoyskull> i have a fresh install of breezy badger on my test pc, it was ok
[04:09] <AcidPils> my update months ago worked fine... but then... omfg ;)
[04:09] <ak37> Fresh install is cool
[04:09] <pinoyskull> but ill wait for final before i make it my default workstation
[04:09] <sorush20> how do I restart cups
[04:09] <bretzel> I use my linux box mainly for C++ labs ( free time coding )
[04:09] <kemik> sorush20:  sudo /etc/init.d/cupsd restart
[04:09] <bretzel> I wonder if Breezy is well set for that
[04:09] <pinoyskull> sorush20: /etc/init.d/cupsys restart
[04:10] <kemik> bretzel:  why would it not be ?
[04:10] <bretzel> kemik: missing configs, data; paths, etc ...
[04:10] <n00bster> winmac_fstab returns error: error: libhal_device_get_property_type: org.freedesktop.Hal.NoSuchDevice: No device with id /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/block_3_1
[04:10] <jeldert> OOo 2 RC1 is released today, any change to include it in breezy? Or even better, if the final is out in time t oinclude final instead of beta 2?
[04:10] <kemik> bretzel:  lost me there...
[04:10] <Crackstar> does somebody can help me ?
[04:10] <gxc> bretzel:sure,it's well  set for that
[04:11] <kemik> configs for what? paths to where?
[04:11] <sorush20> when I try to restart the hotplug system it crashes the computer can can someone help please.
[04:11] <onkarshinde> jeldert: OOo final should be out before Breezy final
[04:11] <kemik> bretzel:  just install "build-essential" and you'll get the compilers.. (if not, jsut apt-get g++)
[04:11] <pinoyskull> onkarshinde: i hope so, if not, ill stick to abiword and gnumeric for a while
[04:12] <kemik> and most libs are also apt-gettable
[04:12] <jeldert> onkarshinde, would be nice :D
[04:12] <pinoyskull> sick: go to sleep and rest, :D
[04:12] <jklsjsdls> onkarshinde: um could i still have some help
[04:12] <jklsjsdls> sorry
[04:12] <bretzel> Thus I can fire up the upgrade :-)  -- I am in a fresh vanilla Hoary re-install. Lets hope all will be good after that -- but the beauty of Ubuntu is its fast install and configs so I am not scared to restart
[04:12] <jklsjsdls> i need libswt-gtk-3.1-java
[04:13] <onkarshinde> I was just wondering if they include FF 1.5 beta in breezy so that I may upgrade to 1.5 once it is out.
[04:13] <sorush20> j
[04:13] <onkarshinde> jklsjsdls: Did you try second repository i said. I said it just works.
[04:13] <sorush20> I can't restart the hotplug system..
[04:13] <nalioth> jklsjsdls: use azureus from sourceforge
[04:13] <sorush20> it just crashes.. I don't know why
[04:13] <ak37> onkarshinde: I heard FF 1.5 won't make it to breezy
[04:13] <Jowi> sorush20, could be that pcmcia or acpi is disturbing it. if you suspect a specific one you can disable them here: /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[04:14] <jeldert> question: why am I having a hard time loging in with GAIM (to msn) all the time?
[04:14] <jklsjsdls> onkarshinde: no could you paste the repositoray again?
[04:14] <jeldert> aMSN doesn't connect either
[04:16] <Jowi> sorush20, but if it is only when you restart it, and not during boot, maybe you can try to temporarily disable the network "sudo /etc/init.d/network stop"
[04:16] <jklsjsdls> http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports
[04:16] <jklsjsdls> ha
[04:16] <Tooheys> hehe sorry for the questions but anyways: can i install redhat rpms with ubuntu ?
[04:16] <jklsjsdls> ha
[04:16] <jklsjsdls> ah
[04:16] <plod> alien?
[04:16] <bretzel> ... Upgrading :-)
[04:16] <ak37> Tooheys: use alien to convert rpm to deb
[04:17] <onkarshinde> jklsjsdls: http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports
[04:17] <onkarshinde> jeldert: Which gaim version?
[04:17] <Crackstar> after installung ubuntu my system is freezing on loading "starting hotplug subsystem" what can i do?! :/
[04:18] <Tooheys> ak37: ahh ok because I dont know which version of mono to download, its either suse or radhat..
[04:18] <gxc> Tooheys:  use dpkg -i file.deb to install it
[04:18] <jklsjsdls> onkarshinde: do i add /dists hoary-extras
[04:18] <jklsjsdls>  to the end?
[04:18] <ak37> Tooheys: Mono, I tought Mono is there for Ubuntu
[04:18] <vinboy_> 123
[04:18] <ak37> Tooheys: At least in Breezy, Hoary should have Mono in the backport repos
[04:19] <onkarshinde> jklsjsdls: Yes.
[04:19] <Tooheys> ohh how do I know ?
[04:19] <onkarshinde> Tooheys: Ever heard of synaptic?
[04:19] <ak37> Tooheys: Check synaptics?
[04:19] <jklsjsdls> do i need to say dists cause my other ones just have hoary-extras
[04:19] <Tooheys> no sorry havent heard of it..
[04:19] <jklsjsdls> i mean that part
[04:20] <onkarshinde> Can anyone tell me exact purpose of gnome-meeting? Is it VoIP?
[04:20] <Jowi> !info mono
[04:20] <ubotu> mono: (The Mono .NET development environment), section universe/interpreters, is optional. Version: 1.0.5-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 36 kB
[04:20] <Concord_Dawn> I have a question. I follow the Firestarter Howto located on the forums, but I still recieve the "Insufficient root privileges" error.
[04:20] <onkarshinde> jklsjsdls: Complete line 'deb http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports/dists hoary-extras'
[04:20] <Tooheys> hehe can you tell me what synaptic is?
[04:20] <Deanie> its the ms equiv of netmeeting.
[04:20] <Jowi> onkarshinde, video over ip with voice.
[04:21] <ak37> Tooheys: It's under System > Administration > Synaptics
[04:21] <onkarshinde> Tooheys: System->Administration->Synaptic
[04:21] <Deanie> got a question, i want smb as part of kernel, ive ran make menuconfig and added smb protocol as Module, an saved the .config,  but what do i do then ?
[04:21] <Jowi> onkarshinde, think it uses SIP for voip but i'm not sure
[04:21] <onkarshinde> Jowi: No. It doesn't use SIP. It uses H.323
[04:22] <Jowi> onkarshinde, aha.
[04:24] <Tooheys> ohh I'm done.. thanks for all the help everyone.. I'm sure when I wake up in the morning i will be back in here to bug ya's :)
[04:25] <onkarshinde> where can i get list of linux compatible tv capture cards?
[04:25] <chorton> How do I add a path that #include's look to?
[04:25] <DeVeRaS> yellow there
[04:25] <dmacdonald111> Hi all. So I have got ubuntu up and running and I am happy :) But it is saying that there are updates to download. Is this safe to allow my computer to do this? Or should I be going through them 1 by 1 (there are 371). Thanks
[04:25] <Jowi> onkarshinde, best bet is to have a look at mythtv's homepage
[04:26] <DeVeRaS> i did apt-get install phpbb2 but it didn't go to /var/www/ but to /usr/share ... so it's outside the webserver. How can i install it to the correct path or where do i change the webserver to make that folder also browseble?
[04:26] <kent> dmacdonald111, is it the stable ubuntu or the unstable Breezy? Either way, you want to upgrade. But if it is Breezy, you should have installed the stable version instead..
[04:26] <fugit> I'm trying to get an ubuntu client to register with an w2k3 AD server for dynamic dns, thus far with no luck
[04:26] <jklsjsdls> onkarshinde: it's still doing it! ahh
[04:26] <fugit> I have tried the interface file perm hostname "machine.domain.com"
[04:27] <onkarshinde> jklsjsdls: What is it doing?
[04:27] <dmacdonald111> kent: uhm, pass. How can I find out which version it is?
[04:27] <fugit> and I Have tried setting send host-name "machine.domain.com" as well as the fqdn send option
[04:27] <jklsjsdls> E: Malformed line 10 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[04:27] <nictuku> hi. I'm trying to install zope-ldapuserfolder but it depends on python2.2-ldap. I can't find that even on universe. pacakges.ubuntu.com shows it only in warty. What should I do?
[04:27] <fugit> Anyone have success with Dynamic DNS and an ubuntu client
[04:27] <Crackstar> after installung ubuntu my system is freezing on loading "starting hotplug subsystem" what can i do?! :/
[04:27] <Rotund> what is the correct process for requesting a package gets bumped to a newer version?
[04:28] <Rotund> Is it a bug report?
[04:28] <onkarshinde> jklsjsdls: Pastebin please
[04:28] <jklsjsdls> ok
[04:28] <Jowi> fugit, maybe you should add the win machine in /etc/hosts.allow
[04:28] <sproingie> Rotund: did the maintainer forget to bump the version on a new version of a package?
[04:28] <DeVeRaS> i did apt-get install phpbb2 but it didn't go to /var/www/ but to /usr/share ... so it's outside the webserver. How can i install it to the correct path or where do i change the webserver to make that folder also browseble?
[04:29] <fugit> Jowi: I'll try anthing at this point :-) Trying that right now
[04:29] <Jowi> fugit, like for ssh: sshd:ALL
[04:29] <jklsjsdls> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d2636
[04:29] <kent> dmacdonald111, I think it will tell if you open up the webbrowser (firefox) and look at the "startpage". It should tell..
[04:29] <jklsjsdls> onkarshinde: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d2636
[04:29] <Rotund> sproingie: No, I want to request libtheora gets updated to version 1.0-alpha5 (we're at alpha4 and there are bug fixes)
[04:30] <DeVeRaS> ubuntu have a diferente file for the httpd.conf file of apache
[04:30] <DeVeRaS> where is the apache2 confgiuration file?
[04:30] <DeVeRaS> what is it?
[04:30] <dmacdonald111> kent: er, it's 5.10 breezy badger
[04:30] <buzzco> DeVeRaS:  /etc/apache2/httpd.conf
[04:31] <Jowi> DeVeRaS, /etc/apache2/apache2.conf + httpd.conf
[04:31] <Rotund> sproingie: (I;m talking breezy too... obviously they won't update hoary)
[04:31] <vinboy_> does anyone know if there is any CVS server gui?
[04:31] <kent> dmacdonald111, Then it is the unstable on. You can try to upgrade the packages. If it does not break the system everything is ok. Its pretty stable now, since it is soon to be released..  So, go ahead and upgrade. Thats my advice..
[04:31] <vinboy_> it is kinda hard to setup
[04:31] <alexcamilo> hello, how do i use apt-get to install http servers, ftp servers, and ssh?
[04:32] <cristian> hola
[04:32] <cristian> alguien de argentina?
[04:32] <Myrtti> #ubuntu-es
[04:32] <ompaul> !es
[04:32] <wickedpuppy> alexandros, use synaptic
[04:32] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:32] <wickedpuppy> :P
[04:32] <Hendric> upgrading the distro needs to download 522MB of files.. i better get the ISO
[04:32] <Jowi> alexcamilo, sudo apt-get install ssh proftpd apache2
[04:32] <alexcamilo> i dont have it. base system installed
[04:32] <dmacdonald111> kent: Thank you :) I have used unstable versions of other distro's before, so if anything goes wrong, I feel pretty confident to fix it again.
[04:32] <wickedpuppy> only base ? no gui ?
[04:32] <cristian> somebody who speak spanish???
[04:32] <sproingie> Rotund: yah a RFE bug report might do it.  i dont know what the etiquette is on asking the maintainer directly, but a bug will hopefully keep everyone from making the same request
[04:32] <Leonik> does wine work better in breezy?
[04:33] <alexcamilo> nope.
[04:33] <alexcamilo> no gui
[04:33] <onkarshinde> jklsjsdls: Oops. Biggest mistake I could do ever. 'deb http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports/dists hoary-extras main restricted universe multiverse'
[04:33] <dpro\> !es
[04:33] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:33] <ompaul> !tell cristian about es
[04:33] <wickedpuppy> i am sorry but if you do a base system ... i am thinking you should know what you are doing ?
[04:33] <kent> dmacdonald111, then you should be ok. I run breezy my self, and have not had any problems for a long time. :)
[04:33] <Myrtti> [17:32]  < Jowi> alexcamilo, sudo apt-get install ssh proftpd apache2
[04:33] <ompaul> cristian, a pm from ubotu
[04:33] <wickedpuppy> apt-get install <proggram> is the command btw
[04:33] <jklsjsdls> lol
[04:33] <dmacdonald111> kent: cool. Thank you. I'm just happy to find a distro that actually utilizes the full potential of my graphics card :)
[04:33] <n00bster> i just wanted to thank you, the disappearing partitions after reboot problems is solved, and it also
[04:33] <n00bster> fixed partition permissions problems. TY!
[04:34] <alexcamilo> oops. was trying sshd
[04:34] <alexcamilo> XD
[04:34] <Jowi> alexcamilo, ssh installs openssh-server and openssh-client
[04:34] <XHK> tere kinomees
[04:34] <Leonik> why is the breezy install cd only 1 cd, whereas hoary was an entire dvd?
[04:34] <Kinomees> ?
[04:34] <Kinomees> tere jah
[04:34] <DeVeRaS> how do i restart apache2?
[04:35] <kent> dmacdonald111, what kind of card is it? I have an old TNT2. It works fine for me, but I dont do much more than browsing internet and irc..
[04:35] <Jowi> DeVeRaS, sudo /etc/init.d/httpd restart
[04:35] <jklsjsdls> onkarshinde: all good no lol
[04:35] <onkarshinde> Leonik: Hoary was also one CD. Only that DVD contains all the packahes in repos.
[04:35] <jklsjsdls> onkarshinde: thank you very much
[04:35] <onkarshinde> jklsjsdls: So is it working now?
[04:35] <wickedpuppy> i thought apache2 instead of httpd
[04:35] <jklsjsdls> :)
[04:35] <wickedpuppy> ?
[04:35] <DeVeRaS> sudo /etc/init.d/httpd restart
[04:35] <DeVeRaS> sudo: /etc/init.d/httpd: command not found
[04:35] <Leonik> So it still comes with everything, like OOo and gimp?
[04:35] <Jowi> wickedpuppy, you are right!
[04:36] <dmacdonald111> kent: I have a radion 9200. It worked on other distro's, but I wasn't able to change the resolution. Now I have a choice of all of them.
[04:36] <Jowi> DeVeRaS, listen to wickedpuppy. i am a liar
[04:36] <ompaul> Leonik, when breezy becomes a release expect to see a DVD
[04:36] <Jowi> DeVeRaS, sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[04:36] <Leonik> should i still download it? or should i just use my old hoary dvd?
[04:36] <Leonik> i switched back to windows because wine wasnt working
[04:37] <kent> dmacdonald111, ok. thats nice :)
[04:37] <ompaul> Leonik, for what?
[04:37] <Leonik> to reinstall ubuntu
[04:37] <dmacdonald111> kent: yes. I'm happy :)
[04:37] <Myrtti> Leonik: what were you trying to run in wine?
[04:38] <Leonik> well i would install it with synaptic and it wouldnt create the config files i needed nad it was just a huge mess
[04:38] <Leonik> it wouldnt run steam or wow
[04:38] <abiertos> hello I need help
[04:38] <Leonik> which is what i really needed
[04:38] <abiertos> someone know something about yaboot
[04:38] <abiertos> uh?
[04:39] <nalioth> abiertos: whats up?
[04:39] <abiertos> nalioth: I have a problem
[04:40] <jklsjsdls> onkarshinde: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d2637      oh some off them stuffed
[04:40] <jklsjsdls> that won't affect me will it
[04:40] <jklsjsdls> ?
[04:40] <ompaul> Leonik, I suggest starting from a Colony 5 CD wine works, it can take a bit of effort to get it to work the way you want it to, howver for games there is something called cageda if I spelt it correctly, it would be more suitable, I can say however I do not use wine or this cageda so I am no expert in this :) however there are lots of Linux games out there, and although you think you want wow or something else you can always check out
[04:40] <ompaul> The Linux Game Tome
[04:40] <RockyBurt> are there any gnome power management utils for configuring acpi with breezy badger?
[04:40] <abiertos> nalioth: my keyboard isnt work
[04:41] <Leonik> too bad i have to pay for cedega
[04:41] <nalioth> abiertos: how does that affect yaboot?
[04:41] <samuel> hi =)
[04:41] <abiertos> nalioth: so I cant to change my root password
[04:41] <Leonik> would breezy be a better choice for gaming than hoary?
[04:41] <nalioth> !tell abiertos about root
[04:41] <kemik> Leonik:  probably since the 3d drivers are updated
[04:41] <samuel> does anyone know how to truncate file names in nautilus?
[04:41] <nalioth> abiertos: ubotu has sent you a msg
[04:42] <kemik> Leonik:  but i'd wait 14 days for breezy to be stable
[04:42] <bienve> abiertos :o
[04:42] <bienve> un dominicano.
[04:42] <ompaul> Leonik, no idea, but if I was to do it today and that was my aim, I would use breezy, download the one CD, and enjoy building a new system
[04:42] <Leonik> if i install breezy right now can i upgrade to the stable without losing everything?
[04:42] <nalioth> Leonik: yes you can
[04:43] <Leonik> just through that gnome update icon right?
[04:43] <Leonik> like how i upgrade everything else?
[04:43] <sambagirl> when i try to access the ubuntu machine via a windows machine it requests a pw but i never assigned one is there a defualt?
[04:44] <ompaul> Leonik, yes, out of curiosity how much hard drive have you got for this?
[04:44] <jklsjsdls> hmm i need libswt-gtk-3.1-java
[04:44] <nalioth> sambagirl: use your user name and pass
[04:44] <sambagirl> how do you change the workgroup on the ubuntu machine to match the otherrs?
[04:44] <sambagirl> ahh
[04:44] <nalioth> jklsjsdls: what program are you wanting to use?
[04:44] <Leonik> 140 so i could run a dual boot environment
[04:44] <Jowi> sambagirl, workgroup is listed in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[04:45] <sambagirl> ahh now it says no access to the thingy and it just did before strange.
[04:46] <sambagirl> brb need to fix this.
[04:46] <Jowi> sambagirl, ....if you're running the samba server that is...
[04:46] <sambagirl> hah i was running nfs i think i checking now
[04:46] <sno_> he guys
[04:46] <sno_> miramax backports are down
[04:46] <sno_> can i set up others?
[04:47] <sno_> atm i commented out the miramax backports in the sources.list
[04:47] <sno_> but now i cannot install anything :>
[04:47] <samuel> can anyone please tell me if its possible to truncate the file and folder names in nautilus? when reading my ntfs partition some hidden files have huge names
[04:47] <sambagirl> how do i list active programs so i can turn something off to free up memory? it is not opening things right
[04:47] <Jowi> sno: i use these: deb http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted + deb http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[04:48] <sno_> thanx Jowi
[04:48] <sno_> :)
[04:48] <Jowi> sambagirl, ps -A will give you all active progs
[04:48] <abiertos> someone help me
[04:49] <abiertos> I want to know if there is a person here that knows something about yaboot
[04:49] <abiertos> its important
[04:49] <ompaul> abiertos, please help others to help you by asking a specific question about whatever you have a problem with
[04:49] <Leonik> if i run a dual boot environemnt can i format the rest of the windows drive once i completely get my linux system up and running?
[04:49] <Jowi> sambagirl, "top" will give you programs listed by the CPU they consume. (quit with q)
[04:50] <ompaul> Leonik, yes
[04:50] <jklsjsdls> nalioth: azurous and i found this file next to it in the repo http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-extras/universe/binary-i386/libswt-gtk-3.1-java_3.0+3.1M4-3~5.04ubp1_all.deb
[04:50] <Leonik> even if its the same hard drive?
[04:50] <abiertos> ompaul: The problem is that when I started with init=/bin/sh my keyboard isnt work
[04:50] <jklsjsdls> I think that what i need
[04:51] <abiertos> ompaul: I want to know if there is a parameter that I could use for make my keyboard works with init=/bin/sh process
[04:51] <ccooke> sambagirl: how much memory do you have?
[04:51] <samuel> leonik do u mean delete the windows partition once your all set up with linux?
[04:51] <ompaul> abiertos, where are you starting with this? grub?
[04:51] <KasperTech> Hi. How does Ubuntu feel about an ATI Radeon Mobility X600-graphic card? I'm buying a laptop you see. And I've got the choice between the expensive (NVidia GeForce 6600) and the less expensive (The Radeon Card) ???
[04:52] <Leonik> yea
[04:52] <ccooke> KasperTech: using one now.
[04:52] <abiertos> ompaul: yaboot
[04:52] <Leonik> and add that space back to the linux one
[04:52] <KasperTech> How do you like it ccooke :)?
[04:52] <ccooke> KasperTech: on the laptop at 1920x1200 and a second monitor at 1280x1024.
[04:52] <ayeizajedi> anyone got any feeback on the 'perfect setup' ( http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_5.04 ) and wether or not it would work for the latest version ?
[04:52] <Chousuke> KasperTech: nvidias are preferable.
[04:52] <samuel> leonik yeah you can do that and make a new partition, or resize the linux partition
[04:52] <ccooke> Chousuke: not in breezy.
[04:52] <abiertos> ompaul: yaboot is the boot loader for powerpc's
[04:52] <KasperTech> ccooke: Okay, how about games?
[04:53] <Chousuke> ccooke: why not?
[04:53] <Leonik> is it simple or rather complex?
[04:53] <samuel> simple
[04:53] <KasperTech> Chousuke: I know, but it's like 200$ expensiver.
[04:53] <Chousuke> KasperTech: and it'll suck :P
[04:53] <ccooke> KasperTech: Hoary is fine, but if you want to get an externl monitor working too, use breezy.
[04:53] <Chousuke> at least with the binary drivers.
[04:53] <ompaul> abiertos, so being an X86 sort of person I know nothing :)
[04:54] <KasperTech> ccooke: Where's that avaible for download?
[04:54] <ccooke> KasperTech/Chousuke: The latest ATI binary drivers (8.16.20) are a huge improvement on the previous ones
[04:54] <KasperTech> Okay, how do I install that?
[04:54] <Chousuke> ccooke: Are they yet on par with nvidia?
[04:54] <ccooke> KasperTech: the preview release is in the topic at http://tinyurl.com/85dry
[04:54] <KasperTech> ccooke: (So I'm already for the day it arives) :)
[04:54] <Crackstar> after installung ubuntu my system is freezing on loading "starting hotplug subsystem" what can i do?! :/
[04:54] <ccooke> KasperTech: the full release will be early October.
[04:54] <catfox> can i use a second monitor on my laptop with an ati card? as a dual screen, not as a copied screen
[04:54] <abiertos> ompaul: I just need a way to make my keyboard works with this parameter
[04:54] <ccooke> Chousuke: close enough for it to make no difference.
[04:55] <ccooke> Chousuke: in breezy, full acceleration was adding one line to xorg.conf and changing to the fglrx drivers.
[04:55] <ompaul> abiertos, I don't know look here: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2004-September.txt.gz
[04:55] <ccooke> Chousuke: and multiple monitors took me two minutes to get working.
[04:55] <Chousuke> ccooke: are they stable and fast?
[04:55] <ccooke> Chousuke: yep.
[04:56] <catfox> ccooke, what are the changes? i'd like to get it working
[04:56] <ccooke> KasperTech: for games, I have NWN and Darwinia installed. Both perform better than the windows versions
[04:56] <KasperTech> Okay.
[04:56] <ccooke> catfox: what for?
[04:56] <samuel> cool, is NWN still played online much?
[04:56] <catfox> xorg.conf and ati drivers. unless i'm thinking of something else :)
[04:56] <ccooke> samuel: if you're into RPGs, yeah :-)
[04:56] <selinium> ccooke: NWN ? neverwinter?
[04:56] <sambagirl> it's amazing the level of knowledge in this channel. amazing.
[04:56] <KasperTech> Hm.. ccooke: The one I'm wanting to buy is a Vega-machine.. d'you know if it'll be okay?
[04:57] <ccooke> catfox: in breezy... all you need to do is install the restricted modules for your kernel, add 'fglrx' to /etc/modules
[04:57] <samuel> cool, i will have to get back into it =)
[04:57] <Chousuke> ccooke: That's pretty amazing development then.
[04:57] <ccooke> catfox: then in xorg.conf, change 'radeon' to 'fglrx' and add below it 'Option "VideoOverlay" "on"
[04:57] <catfox> ccooke, good stuff, i'll give that a go. is it easy to get a second monitor working?
[04:58] <Chousuke> ccooke: I'm still a bit sceptical though.
[04:58] <selinium> sambagirl, we are all here to help!
[04:58] <ccooke> Chousuke: why?
[04:58] <ccooke> catfox: it's nothing complicated if you know xorg.conf
[04:58] <Chousuke> ccooke: because I've never heard anyone say anything good about ATi drivers before.
[04:58] <KasperTech> Vega with 256 GeForce 6600 (1685$) vs. Zepto with ATI Radeon Mobility X600 (1703$) What to choose?
[04:59] <ccooke> Chousuke: yes. They used to be *terrible*.
[04:59] <KasperTech> (the ATI is 128mb)
[04:59] <catfox> ccooke,  i'm comforatble editing it, just never added a second monitor. on a laptop, does it use the tvout port?
[04:59] <Quinthius> Chousuke: that's just because it's trendy to bash ati :P
[04:59] <ccooke> Chousuke: 8.16.20 made an absolutely huge difference
[04:59] <Chousuke> KasperTech: The nvidia one is cheaper.
[04:59] <Chousuke> :P
[04:59] <samuel> ive only been using ubuntu for a couple of weeks but i think the community is great =)
[04:59] <Strog> nvidia would be my choice everytime
[04:59] <KasperTech> Chousuke: Woops, um... switched prizes :P
[04:59] <ccooke> catfox: ... well, it can.
[04:59] <knewt>  /part
[04:59] <Chousuke> I'd go with the nvidia still
[05:00] <ccooke> catfox: you *might* need one more option on the config
[05:00] <catfox> ccooke, righto, might have to look around a bit first. does it still use xinerama?
[05:00] <KasperTech> Chousuke, ccooke, Strog: Vega laptop with 256 mb GeForce 6600 (1703$) vs. Zepto with ATI Radeon Mobility X600 128 mb (1685$) What to choose?
[05:00] <ccooke> KasperTech: if you're going with Breezy, they're each about as good as the other from ease of use. Try a hardware review site to see which card is better?
[05:00] <KasperTech> That's the right info.
[05:00] <samuel> personally i nvr had much luck with ati drivers, nvidia have always worked better for me
[05:00] <Chousuke> KasperTech: the nvidia one
[05:01] <Chousuke> or, it depends.
[05:01] <Chousuke> what are the other specs?
[05:01] <ccooke> KasperTech: if you go with Hoary, go for the nvidia.
[05:01] <KasperTech> 1,7 pentium M
[05:01] <KasperTech> 1 gig ddr ram
[05:01] <gregg_> go for the nvidia one, nvidia's linux support is really quite good
[05:01] <KasperTech> ccooke: Humm okay. :)
[05:01] <Chousuke> the nvidia has more memory too.
[05:01] <KasperTech> Okay, the nvidia it is.
[05:01] <Strog> KasperTech: I've had waaay less issues with nvidia and I'd go that route but you are free to choose. :)
[05:01] <ccooke> catfox: not unless you have two graphics cards
[05:01] <sno_> someone has good backports? query..
[05:02] <Chousuke> and it's not that much more expensive.
[05:02] <Chousuke> sno_: backports are neever good ;/
[05:02] <catfox> ccooke, i see. cheers mate
[05:02] <KasperTech> Thanks all, and bye for now. :)
[05:02] <KasperTech> Dinner's ready.
[05:02] <samuel> cya GL
[05:02] <KasperTech> Thanks.
[05:02] <ccooke> catfox: does your laptop have a monitor port?
[05:02] <catfox> ccooke, i think it's tvout
[05:02] <Chousuke> Quite an expensive laptop it is he's getting
[05:02] <ccooke> catfox: right, I see.
[05:03] <zAo^> with what program can I get thumbnails of my Canon RAW files???
[05:03] <catfox> ccooke, actually there's two ports, but they've got icons next to them not labels
[05:03] <Chousuke> My powerbook didn't cost that much. :P
[05:03] <catfox> ccooke, on this laptop anyway. not sure about my one at home
[05:03] <ccooke> catfox: does one have an icon like |O|
[05:03] <sno_> i just want to install the acrobat reader, but the backports are always offline..
[05:03] <ccooke> catfox: ?
[05:03] <zAo^> no1?
[05:03] <catfox> ccooke, yeah it does
[05:03] <RockyBurt> are there any gnome power management utils for configuring acpi with breezy badger?  i need some way to tell my laptop to not use power-stepping (where it changes the clockspeed dynamically) when plugged into AC
[05:03] <AnguS> hi! I'm using breezy, the kernel jsut got upgraded... and now my windows is missing from the GRUB menu. this always happened on breezy, but now also the "boot" configuration panel from the admin menu is gone, so i have no clue how to bring windows back. any clue?
[05:04] <n00bster> is there en Emulator on Ubuntu?
[05:04] <tritium> !tell sno_ about acroread
[05:04] <Chousuke> n00bster: for what?
[05:04] <ccooke> catfox: D-shaped, three rows of five holes?
[05:04] <tritium> n00bster: what kind of emulator?
[05:04] <n00bster> win software
[05:04] <samuel> so, how to stop nautilus from showing the full filename if over XX letters anyone?
[05:04] <n00bster> like wine.
[05:04] <Chousuke> try wine
[05:04] <Chousuke> :P
[05:04] <catfox> ccooke, yep
[05:04] <ccooke> catfox: right. you have a monitor port, then :-)
[05:04] <catfox> ccooke, hurrah!
[05:04] <tritium> n00bster: there are all kinds of emulators available
[05:04] <n00bster> can i add it from "add & remuve programs" ?
[05:05] <Chousuke> n00bster: use synaptic
[05:05] <catfox> ccooke, so that other line to add to xorg.conf, any ideas what it'd be?
[05:05] <ccooke> catfox: got a spare monitor?
[05:05] <sno_> thanx tritium
[05:05] <ccooke> catfox: I can show you how to configure it, it's easy.
[05:05] <catfox> ccooke, not here, i'm at the office. have at ome tho
[05:05] <ompaul> tell n00bster about wine
[05:05] <tritium> sno_: sure thing :)
[05:05] <n00bster> is it en instellation onption on ubuntu ?
[05:05] <ccooke> catfox: okay
[05:05] <ccooke> catfox: The way to do it:
[05:05] <tritium> n00bster: yes, if you have the universe repo setup
[05:05] <sno_> oh, tritium: it's a 404 :>
[05:06] <n00bster> "universe repo setup" ? ?
[05:06] <tritium> sno_: really?  We'll bug Seveas about that then ;)
[05:06] <sproingie> anyone have recommendations for a decent filtering proxy like proxomitron but for linux?
[05:06] <tritium> !tell n00bster about repositories
[05:06] <ccooke> catfox: 1) find the 'Device' section for your card. Make a complete copy of it and change the Identifier from 'whatever' to 'whatever 2'
[05:06] <sno_> i just want to read this damn pdf :>>
[05:07] <tritium> sno_: xpdf and evince don't cut the mustard for you?
[05:07] <ccooke> catfox: 2) Do exactly the same for the Monitor section
[05:07] <sno_> tritium: what's evince? i'll try it
[05:07] <n00bster> ok, i'll download it from there , & i'll see how do i manage with instellation :} ty !!
[05:07] <tritium> sno_: a pdf viewer
[05:07] <ccooke> catfox: 3) Do the same for the Screen section
[05:07] <sno_> !tell sno_ about evince
[05:08] <tritium> !info evince
[05:08] <ubotu> evince: (Document (postscript, pdf) viewer), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.1.9-0ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 189 kB, Installed size: 788 kB
[05:08] <RockyBurt> i guess there's no easy way to change laptop acpi settings in ubutnu breezy badger?
[05:08] <ccooke> catfox: 4) in the Device section, add 'Screen 0' to the first copy and 'Screen 1' to the second.
[05:08] <sno_> yeah i can install evince.. thnx very much
[05:08] <tritium> RockyBurt: edit /etc/default/acpi-support
[05:08] <tritium> good luck, sno_ :)
[05:08] <ccooke> catfox: 5) In the layout section, you'll have something like 'Screen "Default Screen"'
[05:09] <ccooke> catfox: underneath it, add 'Screen "Default Screen 2" RightOf "Default Screen"'
[05:09] <tritium> ccooke: setting up TwinView?
[05:09] <ccooke> catfox: (changing the name or relationshipto the Identifier on your second Screen section
[05:09] <ccooke> tritium: no
[05:10] <ccooke> catfox: Try restarting. If it complains, or only sees one screen, try adding 1 to the last digit of the BusID in the second Device section.
[05:11] <ccooke> catfox: (whether the two heads of a graphics card are the same BusID can depend on the architecture)
[05:12] <Shin_Gouki> hi
[05:12] <RockyBurt> tritium: there's no easy way to configure clockspeed dynamic control? (power mannagement stuff)
[05:12] <avalost> i've got a coffee buzz, eep
[05:13] <Shin_Gouki> hello! : if im usding the "normal" ubnunto 5.10 CD install iso, what is the smallest possible configuration of a ubuntu system??
[05:13] <tritium> RockyBurt: that file is primarily for configuring suspend and hibernate.
[05:13] <Chousuke> Shin_Gouki: 100MB
[05:13] <AnguS> PLEASE can someone with a windows dual-boot system paste me his GRUB lines to boot the windows partition? breezy wiped them out here...
[05:13] <Chousuke> about.
[05:13] <tritium> RockyBurt: are you running powernowd?
[05:13] <avalost> Shin_Gouki, for deafault when you install type 'server'
[05:13] <avalost> enter
[05:13] <Chousuke> Shin_Gouki: but that's not very usable.
[05:13] <Shin_Gouki> t @ Chosuke
[05:14] <tritium> AnguS: why do you say that breezy wiped them out?
[05:14] <RockyBurt> tritium: i have no idea what i'm running... all i know is right now my clockspeed is changing frequently depending on load... but while plugged into AC i really want my clockspeed to stay fixed at the highest setting
[05:14] <Chousuke> Shin_Gouki: it doesn't have X or anything yet.
[05:14] <Shin_Gouki> i want a shell and if possible gnome too ?
[05:14] <avalost> Shin_Gouki, are you 'really' tight on space?
[05:14] <kemik> gnome is huge
[05:14] <Shin_Gouki> hm how big this goes then? and does ubuntu also needd something like a "swap" file?
[05:14] <AnguS> tritium: because it worked fine, then it upgraded the kernel, i rebooted and windows was out of the grub menu
[05:14] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  see other Window Managers...
[05:14] <Shin_Gouki> yes i only have 700 MB :/
[05:14] <tritium> RockyBurt: what architecture?
[05:14] <kemik> like IceWM, XFCE
[05:14] <Shin_Gouki> x68 1238 MB RAM
[05:15] <avalost> wow 700 MB is not enough to run x
[05:15] <RockyBurt> tritium: this is a dell latitude d800 ... intel centrino tech
[05:15] <Shin_Gouki> ups x86 128 MB ram ^^
[05:15] <AnguS> AnguS: it always happened since i installed breezy a couple of weeks ago, but there was this nice control panel for setting up grub, now i dont see it anymore in the admin tools menu
[05:15] <tritium> AnguS: upgrading the kernel only adds a new kernel to the menu
[05:15] <AnguS> i meant tritium
[05:15] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  i'd run icewm or possibly xfce
[05:15] <AnguS> tritium: it doesnt
[05:15] <Shin_Gouki> so 700 MB wwill be fine with x?
[05:15] <tritium> AnguS: really, I mean it
[05:16] <Shin_Gouki> may be i can get 1,2 GB buts nothing more
[05:16] <avalost> kemik, with x and all the other processess i'd think the log's and whatnot would fill 700mb in no time
[05:16] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  yes, http://www.binonabiso.com/en/Ubuntu-miniRAM-HOWTO.html
[05:16] <ccooke> catfox: sorry, had to vanish for a bit. Did that help?
[05:16] <kemik> avalost:  well it wont
[05:16] <tritium> AnguS: hoary or breezy?
[05:16] <Shin_Gouki> 1,2 GB is this engough?
[05:16] <AnguS> tritium: and i really mean that breezy wiped my fucking windows boot entry out of grub each time i upgraded the kernel, i always had to add windows manually via the system\administration\boot tool
[05:16] <tritium> sorry, RockyBurt hoary or breezy?
[05:16] <AnguS> which is now gone since the last upgrade
[05:16] <tritium> AnguS: please watch your language
[05:16] <RockyBurt> tritium: oh, sorry, breezy
[05:16] <AnguS> tritium: breezxy
[05:16] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  read the link i gave you
[05:16] <Jowi> AnguS, if your Windows is on primary 1st partition: title           Windows + root            (hd0,0) + savedefault + makeactive + chainloader     +1
[05:16] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  but 700mb is not much
[05:17] <AnguS> Jowi: thanks
[05:17] <Jowi> AnguS, every + is a new line
[05:17] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  1.2gb would be better ofcourse
[05:17] <Shin_Gouki> thx kemik ill go now and read it!
[05:17] <Jowi> AnguS, except for the last one (+1)
[05:17] <AnguS> Jowi: sure, got that :)
[05:17] <tritium> AnguS: that's not normal operation.
[05:17] <kemik> avalost:  if you see the link i posted you'll see that its possible to have X with about 700mb of space
[05:17] <mellon> Hi all.   Probably a stupid question: there's a bug in the disk partition resizing that's present on the breezy preview CD.   In bugzilla, it says that this bug is fixed on the colony 5 cd.   What is a colony 5 cd?
[05:18] <kemik> avalost:  even though it's a tight fit
[05:18] <Jowi> AnguS, but really, it should only add the new kernel to the list, not delete anything...
[05:18] <basti> which is the command to make a file executable?
[05:18] <tritium> AnguS: was the windows partition detected during install?  If not, when you added it, did you run update-grub?
[05:18] <avalost> kemik, i'd say really tight :p
[05:18] <basti> chmod ??
[05:18] <AnguS> Jowi: i know it should, it worked fine on hoary and on breezy in the past but... now it wipes windows out each time
[05:18] <samuel> one last time then i will stop bugging u all, is there a way to set nautilus so it dosnt show the full filename if it has more than xx characters?
[05:18] <AnguS> tritium: yes it was detected during install
[05:18] <kemik> basti:  "man chmod"
[05:19] <AnguS> tritium: then on the first kernel upgrade i did it got away
[05:19] <Jowi> AnguS, add the windows grub item after: ### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST - and you should be ok
[05:19] <tritium> mellon: it's a milestone release.  Go to cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/breezy
[05:19] <kemik> basti:  and yes chmod is the 'program' ...
[05:19] <phillipc> it seems that epiphany is not saving the settings I set in about:config. How should I investigate?
[05:19] <tritium> AnguS: sounds fishy
[05:19] <mellon> thanks!
[05:20] <AnguS> tritium: i had to add windows each time after an upgrade via that panel that is now gone
[05:20] <Shin_Gouki> THX @ kemik i hope i ll be able to use it! (small install)
[05:20] <tritium> RockyBurt: please dpkg -l | grep powernow
[05:20] <AnguS> but without i was lost now as i dont know grub hehe
[05:20] <RockyBurt> tritium: rocky@zebrax:~$ dpkg -l | grep powernow
[05:20] <RockyBurt> ii  powernowd                             0.96-2ubuntu1                      control cpu speed and voltage using 2.6 kern
[05:20] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  mmmh.. no guarantees ;)
[05:21] <n00bster> ok, i just installd wine, but i don'n know wher is the shortcut for it..
[05:21] <n00bster> dont*
[05:21] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  but im running  debian+icewm on a small p2-233 comp... it's doable :)
[05:21] <n00bster> baa, sorry for my bad English '}
[05:21] <Jowi> n00bster, no shortcut. you use it like this: wine /path/to/setup.exe
[05:21] <Shin_Gouki> kemik : cooll i have exatclty this CPU :)
[05:21] <tritium> RockyBurt: dpkg -L powernowd will list the files in that package.  You should be able to find its config file, likely either in /etc/ or /etc/default.
[05:22] <RockyBurt> tritium: gotcha, thanks
[05:22] <n00bster> ok, but can i create a shortcut fore it?
[05:22] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  but you have 128mb ram.. im stuck w 64.. (it's a laptop...) so you'll load stuff much faster :)
[05:22] <avalost> makes me wonder what damn small linux is like
[05:22] <kemik> avalost:  damn small ;)
[05:22] <mellon> angus, have you tried manually editing /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[05:22] <tritium> AnguS: perhaps that gui you used altered grubs behavior, because windows should not ever have been deleted from the list
[05:22] <Shin_Gouki> kemik : i have an USB NIC will all APT install stuff work?
[05:23] <AnguS> tritium: might be, i used that tool to set windows xp as default partition
[05:23] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  if you are somewhat experienced i would recommend you to use Vector Linux.. it's got rave reviews over att madpenguin... unfortunately i couldnt install on my laptop.. broken CDreader :|
[05:23] <tritium> AnguS: and if you ever manually edit /boot/grub/menu.lst, always be sure to run "sudo update-grub" after
[05:23] <AnguS> tritium: probably it messed up something
[05:23] <avalost> so far e17 has taken 3 hours and 53 minutes to compile..
[05:23] <tritium> AnguS: now that I'd believe
[05:23] <basti> kemik, seriously that manually isnt written very pedagogic...
[05:23] <n00bster> can i create a shortcut fore wine, menually?
[05:23] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  dont know..... you should research it beforehand
[05:24] <basti> could u just tell me the command?
[05:24] <Shin_Gouki> kemik : how to i do this?
[05:24] <mellon> Oh, really?  I never do that.   :'}
[05:24] <kemik> basti:  the man-pages seldom are.. but you should make an effort to learn howto read them..  :)
[05:24] <Shin_Gouki> if i have the modell number were can i look for support?
[05:24] <kemik> basti:  the way to set the executeflag is "chmod +x file"
[05:24] <lotia> this may be obvious, but is there a way to upgrade mozilla-firefox. the update manager is showing that i need to install the update, but i get an error on installation
[05:24] <AnguS> thanks for your help, im rebooting now... if you dont hear from me everything went fine :P
[05:24] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  the ubuntu-wiki / forums / google
[05:25] <Shin_Gouki> kemik thx ill take a try!
[05:25] <Jowi> Shin_Gouki, is it a wifi-card?
[05:25] <kemik> lotia:  dont use backports
[05:25] <mellon> Hm, the man page says update-grub will regenerate menu.lst, which doesn't sound so good...
[05:25] <basti> kemik, thats what I wrote but the file didnt turn green :S
[05:25] <lotia> kemik: is there a problem with that repository?
[05:25] <basti> gonna try as sudo
[05:26] <kemik> lotia:  yes.. they named the package firefox and it's colliding with mozilla-firefox
[05:26] <basti> ah no I wrote -x
[05:26] <tritium> mellon: no, you need to do that
[05:26] <kemik> basti:  - removes ;)
[05:26] <tritium> or the changes won't be kept
[05:26] <ions> unbuntu-docs is failing to upgrade
[05:26] <avalost> who reads docs :P
[05:26] <basti> ok heeh :P
[05:26] <kemik> basti:  if you learn to use the man-pages, you'll be far along 'mastering linux' ;)
[05:26] <kemik> man-pages and google
[05:26] <mellon> Weird.   I never do it, and haven't lost any changes.
[05:27] <tritium> ions: you're running breezy, eh?  dist-upgrade to handle that (it'll get removed)
[05:27] <mellon> I just keep my changes out of the automatically-updated part of the file.
[05:27] <catfox> ccooke, sorry i disappeared too. i'll give that a go later, thanks very much
[05:27] <n00bster> wine /path/to/setup.exe ??
[05:27] <selinium> zAo^, Has anyone answered your RAW question?
[05:27] <ions> dist-upgrade does not
[05:28] <ions> it fails
[05:28] <sno_> i cant access my windows partition with ubuntu - how does that work?
[05:28] <ions> Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/ubuntu-docs_5.10-2_all.deb
[05:28] <ions> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[05:28] <kemik> !tell sno_ about ntfs
[05:28] <kemik> sno_ see pm
[05:28] <tritium> ions: please don't paste
[05:28] <ions> was 2 lines
[05:28] <sno_> kemik thnx
[05:29] <tritium> ions: yeah, I can count, thanks.
[05:29] <ions> just checking
[05:29] <tritium> request still stands
[05:31] <jimmythescumbag> GREETINGS
[05:31] <Lord_Vader> ubuntu has random lockup with xorg when using the nvidia drivers
[05:31] <Lord_Vader> all versions
[05:31] <Lord_Vader> only slackware is stable with nvidia drivers
[05:31] <Lord_Vader> any know of a solution
[05:31] <joachim_> what do I need to add to .bash_profile so one tab lists possible completions?
[05:31] <Lord_Vader> happens more frequenty in gentoo
[05:31] <kemik> Lord_Vader:  install slackware
[05:31] <kemik> ;)
[05:31] <kemik> hehe
[05:31] <Lord_Vader> hehe
[05:31] <blekos> anyone know how i can get the updates avail?
[05:31] <Lord_Vader> slackware == kick ass
[05:31] <jimmythescumbag> ubuntu keeps taking a dump in the homeless childrens book donation box, why?
[05:32] <jimmythescumbag> those poor kids have to read shitty books
[05:32] <jimmythescumbag> with crap on them
[05:32] <jimmythescumbag> even if you wipe it off, it dosn't go away
[05:32] <kemik> jimmythescumbag:  try #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:34] <sambagirl> lordvader you still here?
[05:34] <sambagirl> lord_vader you still here?
[05:34] <sno_> how can i delete a folder?
[05:34] <sambagirl> del *.*
[05:34] <sambagirl> :D
[05:34] <tritium> whois jimmythescumbag
[05:34] <sno_> oh thx :>
[05:34] <wickedpuppy> ...
[05:34] <blekos> anyone know how i can get the updates avail?
[05:34] <blekos> lol
[05:34] <blekos> sno don't do that...
[05:34] <wickedpuppy> folder sambagirl ... its rmdir
[05:34] <jimmythescumbag> nice one tritium
[05:35] <blekos> :|)0
[05:35] <steve> can someone help me install my ati x800xl, nothing i do seems to work
[05:35] <Lord_Vader> sambagirl: yes im here
[05:35] <wickedpuppy> pls don't do that to users asking for help sambagirl
[05:35] <sno_> why not blekos?
[05:35] <Jowi> sno_, rm -rf foldername (-rf means recursively force delete all the files in that folder)
[05:35] <sambagirl> lord_vader your name is wayne from australia?
[05:35] <blekos> :))
[05:35] <Lord_Vader> rm -rf
[05:35] <tritium> jimmythescumbag: please keep that in -offtopic
[05:35] <Lord_Vader> rm -rf /path to folder
[05:35] <blekos> rm 0rf
[05:35] <blekos> RemoVe -rf
[05:35] <RenaGade> hello is anyone a helper here ?
[05:35] <blekos> check tha man
[05:36] <jimmythescumbag> sambagirl, please, keep that in off-topic
[05:36] <blekos> do man rm for more info
[05:36] <tritium> RenaGade: most are
[05:36] <RenaGade> ok
[05:36] <sambagirl> damnit jimmy i am just asking a simple question. and i did already so relax.
[05:36] <RenaGade> i have a question on this site http://www.ubuntu.com/
[05:36] <blekos> anybody had problem with updating??
[05:36] <Lord_Vader> sambagirl: no
[05:37] <RenaGade> are the linux cd's are free and shipping to  ?
[05:37] <blekos> if u r asking for ubuntu yes
[05:37] <blekos> the're free
[05:37] <RenaGade> ok ty
[05:37] <blekos> but till the release none will be sent
[05:37] <blekos> (13 october)
[05:37] <RenaGade> ok cause im in florida
[05:38] <jimmythescumbag> RenaGade, keep that in offtopic please
[05:38] <RenaGade> ok sorry
[05:38] <tritium> RenaGade: you're free to ask that.  It was not offtopic
[05:38] <RenaGade> oh ok
[05:38] <sambagirl> how do you expect anyone to just happen to be in offtopic when private messaging is turned off?
[05:39] <sambagirl> geez
[05:39] <wickedpuppy> pm is turn off ?
[05:39] <tritium> sambagirl: ?
[05:39] <blekos> tritium, how can i get the updates?
[05:39] <tritium> blekos: what do you mean?
[05:39] <sambagirl> bbl chao
[05:39] <tritium> sambagirl: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:39] <tritium> doesn't require private messaging
[05:39] <blekos> well i had a problem running the update manager
[05:40] <tritium> blekos: please be specific
[05:40] <blekos> sorry, give me a sec to try again
[05:40] <RenaGade> ok thanks for your help  :-)
[05:40] <Answer> When formatting a partition for Linux Ext3, what is the best "Cluster Size"  1k, 2k, 4k ?
[05:40] <prego> Answer, afaik, you should let it decide...
[05:41] <tritium> Answer: there is no "best".  Like all things, it's a tradeoff.
[05:41] <Answer> tritium: Please explain pros and cons of the tradeoff
[05:41] <Shin_Gouki> kemik u still there?
[05:41] <stefanomasini> hi. I just installed ubuntu. I loved the graphical partitioning tool. How can I start it again on my installed system to partition a new disk I just installed?
[05:41] <tritium> Answer: tradeoff between average file size and fs performance
[05:42] <Answer> tritium: so which one did you pick
[05:42] <havoc> Answer: smaller block size is *generally* more efficient, but limits the size of the partition as there are a finite number of addressable blocks
[05:42] <Shin_Gouki> it seems i was able to get 4,2 GB diskspace, will this & 128 MB ramm enough for ubuntu?
[05:42] <tritium> Answer: I leave it at the default, and don't worry about it.
[05:42] <joachim_> stefanomasini, gparted maybe?
[05:42] <blekos> i run the update manager and when i choose install
[05:42] <Jowi> stefanomasini, gparted is one of them.
[05:42] <blekos> i get the following error message
[05:42] <blekos> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:42] <blekos> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[05:42] <Pluk> l
[05:42] <havoc> Answer: efficient in terms of disk usage that is, not in terms of performance
[05:42] <Whistler> i am getting http://pastebin.com/377794 what should i do?
[05:42] <stefanomasini> joachim_: it that it? Wait... by "graphical" I meant graphical _text_ interface
[05:42] <Seveas> blekos, close synaptic
[05:43] <prego> Shin_Gouki, a bit low values but could do
[05:43] <Answer> OK I have plenty of disk space, I want the best performance
[05:43] <blekos> i did
[05:43] <Jowi> blekos, make sure you have not started another package manager like aptitude
[05:43] <Shin_Gouki> i just need a baisc SOHO system,
[05:43] <prego> Answer, use reiserfs ;-P
[05:43] <Answer> blekos:  killall synaptic
[05:43] <tritium> Answer: havoc seems more knowledgeable than I am in that area.
[05:43] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  im here
[05:43] <Answer> prego: Is reiserfs the bestest?  what about jfs and ext3
[05:43] <Shin_Gouki> what firewalls u guys suggest for use with ubuntuu?
[05:43] <blekos> noone is running
[05:43] <Whistler> i am getting http://pastebin.com/377794 what should i do?
[05:43] <blekos> shin gouki
[05:43] <havoc> Answer: just use the default
[05:43] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  i would *not* recommend using gnome.. it will take *looong* loading times
[05:43] <blekos> firestarter
[05:43] <joachim_> graphical _text_ interface <- evil evil! ;)
[05:44] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  XFCE or IceWM is the way togo
[05:44] <Answer> havoc: is ext3 the best partition type?
[05:44] <joachim_> gparted is very nice to use :)
[05:44] <blekos> what i do next seveas
[05:44] <Shin_Gouki> @kemik HOW olng? ^^ 1 /2 min?
[05:44] <prego> Answer, I'm happy with reiserfs (reiser3, I guess).
[05:44] <havoc> Answer: if you choose too small a block size you may need to use a smaller partition size
[05:44] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  loading gnome took about 5-8minutes on a p2-233 64mb ram
[05:44] <tritium> Answer: I personally would not recommend reiserfs, as it has massively corrupted for me in the past
[05:44] <Shin_Gouki> kemik: and new applicatio0ns?
[05:44] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  loading firefox, another 40-80seconds. and so on
[05:45] <stefanomasini> joachim_: I can't really use gparted. My system is a server, I don't want X
[05:45] <blekos> hmm, next, what do i do guys?
[05:45] <Answer> Let's have a poll everyone, which is the best filesystem:  Ext3, JFS or Reiserfs?
[05:45] <havoc> Answer: ext3 is probably to *easiest* and more reliable option, but I'm sure there are others here like prego that use either reiserfs or others
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> thers a framebuffer version of qt_parted I think. :P
[05:45] <Whistler> i am getting http://pastebin.com/377794 what should i do?
[05:45] <tritium> kemik: you must have a really slow machine?
[05:45] <Whistler> any ideas?
[05:45] <wickedpuppy> Whistler, get the library ?
[05:45] <Jowi> blekos, does "sudo aptitude" give you errors as well?
[05:45] <prego> havoc, let's hope it does not get corrupted 8-P
[05:46] <havoc> prego: heh :)
[05:46] <havoc> I just use ext3
[05:46] <stefanomasini> I was kinda wondering what was the one used in the installer! :)
[05:46] <havoc> it "works"
[05:46] <Whistler> wickedpuppy how do i do that?
[05:46] <Jowi> ext3 out of habit really.
[05:46] <wickedpuppy> synaptic
[05:46] <blekos> no
[05:46] <kemik> tritium:  my parents computer... had to reinstall it when i was there... and had misplaced the networkdriver for win98.. so the option was Ubuntu w/gnome or Win2k
[05:46] <prego> havoc, I did use ext3 at my RH7.x system, but when I switched to ubuntu I have reiser a try and I didn't notice anything disgusting...
[05:46] <Shin_Gouki> right kemik!
[05:46] <Jowi> blekos, good, so quit aptitude and try "sudo synaptic" again
[05:46] <Whistler> i am using ext3 and i am happy about ir
[05:47] <Whistler> *it
[05:47] <kemik> tritium:  but since Ubuntu w/gnome isnt feasible really, they've gotten a new computer ... :)
[05:47] <tritium> kemik: heh
[05:47] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  in short: ubuntu w/gnome *works* but you'll never use it :)
[05:47] <thesilentkiller> i am trying to add additional repositories..but i see that all hoary backports are empty (http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/). because of this 'apt-get update' is failing for me
[05:47] <thesilentkiller> any clues anyone?
[05:47] <Shin_Gouki> kemik!: i am at excatly same situtioan: parents PC: Win98 old -slow, now i want linux!
[05:47] <stefanomasini> partman! that's it!
[05:47] <Jowi> thesilentkiller, yeah, try another mirror for the backports. mirrormax has been shut down
[05:48] <thesilentkiller> oh i c...thanks :)
[05:48] <basti> is there any good emule client under ubuntu?
[05:48] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  id try with XFCE4 then.. but be aware, the automagic of adding USB devices is lost when not using gnome
[05:48] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  so you'll have to tweak alittle to get cameras and usb-printers etc working :/
[05:48] <Tomcat_> basti: amule is decent.
[05:48] <Shin_Gouki> kemik: which means i have to handle "hotpluggin" <<mayself>>?
[05:49] <prego> kemik, sure. However, dmesg is your friend, there, isn't it?
[05:49] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  mmh.. or at least tweak abit with hotplug
[05:49] <basti> thanks Tomcat_
[05:49] <catfox> anyone know what ubuntu support is like for ipod nano's?
[05:49] <tritium> hey nalioth
[05:49] <Jowi> got to go. bbl. bye everyone
[05:49] <nalioth> morning all you work shirkers
[05:49] <kemik> i got their usb-camera to work.. but not automagic-detected so i figured i couldnt leave my parents with that solution
[05:50] <Shin_Gouki> kemik: hmm ^^ gnome ssems fine with me ... is there a possibility to test both : gnome & XFCE4? i now managed to get 4GB dsik Space!!
[05:50] <kemik> unless i was going todo techsupport everytime they wanna see pictures ;)
[05:50] <blekos> still getting the same error...
[05:50] <Whistler> how do i convert rpm to deb?
[05:50] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  of course.. do the full ubuntuinstall, and then apt-get xfce4
[05:50] <kemik> Whistler:  alien
[05:50] <nalioth> Whistler: you shouldnt
[05:50] <havoc> wickedpuppy: alien
[05:50] <nalioth> Whistler: what program do you want?
[05:50] <tritium> Whistler: alien, but in general, it's better to use native ubuntu .debs
[05:50] <havoc> and what nalioth said
[05:50] <Whistler> i need lib
[05:51] <Whistler> and i cant find native one
[05:51] <havoc> Whistler: which lib?
[05:51] <tritium> which one, Whistler?  It's likely available
[05:51] <nalioth> Whistler: theres about 30000000 of em
[05:51] <Shin_Gouki> kemik : full doesnt sound good i want decide almost everything at the installation is this possible?
[05:51] <prego> Shin_Gouki, I would say that 4Gb is enough. Not much, but enough.
[05:51] <Whistler> libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
[05:51] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  then you have to go with "server" and add packages yourself
[05:51] <Whistler> anybody heard of libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 ?
[05:51] <prego> Shin_Gouki, IMHO your major problem is the RAM 128MB only
[05:51] <Shin_Gouki> i will cut off all Video suport Audio will be
[05:51] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  depending on your linux experience, that's a good or bad choice ;)
[05:52] <kemik> prego:  a p2-233 isnt much to brag with tho.. even if you have 256mb of ram, it wont be quick
[05:52] <Shin_Gouki> prego there is no discussion about the RAM its a old system u cant buy new one of those and i dont want to buy ..
[05:52] <kemik> prego:  the damn HD's on those machines are sooo slow ;)
[05:52] <nalioth> Whistler: search in synaptic for libstdc++
[05:52] <tritium> or use apt-cache search
[05:52] <Shin_Gouki> kemik ur right : the HDs are sOOOOO slow o_O
[05:53] <havoc> maybe he thinks he needs it cuz he's trying to build something from source rather than using a package
[05:53] <prego> kemik, Shin_Gouki, I've installed ubuntu hoary at my K6-II+ 500MHz, 384MB RAM and runs a bit slow but OK. Sure that CPU is perhaps a bit faster than a P2-233, but not that much, I guess.
[05:53] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  as i said tho.. i'd go with a "server-install" and then apt-get the X system along with XFCE
[05:54] <tritium> havoc: there are dev. libs available for that
[05:54] <Shin_Gouki> kemik ur right ill try this one!
[05:54] <kemik> prego:  oh that's a nice system.. i've got a celeron450 with 512mb ram.. its running "ok" ...
[05:54] <blekos> how do i update th source.list file?
[05:54] <Shin_Gouki> kemik, at which point of the installation ill be ask the "server" question?
[05:54] <kemik> but it has a 'new' HD
[05:54] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  first question
[05:54] <blekos> the commamd is sudo update....?
[05:55] <tritium> blekos: either with synaptic, or edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:55] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  you have to type "server" at the prompt
[05:55] <Shin_Gouki> kemik, thx!
[05:55] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  maybe print that mini-ram howto.. it'll tell you how to get X on the system
[05:55] <prego> Shin_Gouki, good luck!!
[05:55] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  and i hope you have an internetconnection (and that it'll work :) )
[05:55] <blekos> yes i have done that,
[05:55] <kemik> goodluck
[05:55] <blekos> but what is the command to refresh the list into the system...
[05:55] <Shin_Gouki> kemik, yes i do not fear this anymore.. but willi be able to use IRC after install?
[05:56] <kevor> how's that commandline program called that outputs big letters of the input text?
[05:56] <danfg> do you guys have any idea in which directory should I install Java Runtime Environment files?
[05:56] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  yeah.. apt-get install irssi
[05:56] <prego> kevor, banner
[05:56] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  it's ncurses based.. so it'll work even w/o X
[05:56] <digitize> yes irssi is great
[05:56] <tritium> danfg: I'd take your .bin from Sun, and build a .deb with make-jpkg (in java-package)
[05:56] <tritium> !tell danfg about sunjava
[05:57] <nalioth> tritium: we have debs now
[05:57] <kevor> prego: not exactly what i mean, i mean the one that outputs horizontally wiht |/\ sings
[05:57] <nalioth> tritium: take it easy on em
[05:57] <nalioth> tritium: +r please
[05:57] <sno_> some1 know a good cd ripper?
[05:57] <Shin_Gouki> kemik, hmmm thx i see! but that wont work for a HTML browser right? ^_~
[05:57] <fdsaf> q: is there a netinstall for 5.04 ?
[05:57] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  "links" or "lynx"
[05:58] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  but i'm not sure how many webpages they can display these days...
[05:58] <danfg> thanks tritium :)
[05:58] <Shin_Gouki> kemik , very thx , u title should be : low level specialists:
[05:59] <Shin_Gouki> the mans u need today the most ^^
[05:59] <fdsaf> netinstalll.... anyone?
[05:59] <tritium> danfg: sure :)  If that's too much hassle, there are pre-made .debs, as nalioth points out.  I just question the legality of distributing them, so I won't officially sanction them.
[05:59] <Shin_Gouki> kemik : because everyone can get linux on a "new" system but old hardware is lot of more work..
[06:00] <kemik> heehe :)
[06:00] <nalioth> tritium: then give em a warning and show em the link :)
[06:00] <mahangu__> im just playing wesnoth
[06:00] <mahangu__> it the rocks
[06:01] <tritium> fdsaf: see the wiki Installation page.
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> unless the system is too new. :P
[06:02] <prego> fdsaf, there was not for 4.10.... you had to netinstall debian and ubuntize it later... I don't really know for 5.04 or 5.10.
[06:02] <joyzze> where is grub.conf kept ?
[06:03] <tritium> joyzze: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:03] <fdsaf> yeah 'Installation/Netboot' in wiki i think
[06:03] <Shin_Gouki> kemik , one "last" question: i did start now 5.04 release download, will this be fine?
[06:03] <tritium> yes, fdsaf, that's it
[06:03] <sno_> can someone tell me how to optimize my sources.list?
[06:03] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: you'll be fine
[06:03] <nalioth> !tell sno_ about sources
[06:03] <jgb> what is the default DocumentRoot for apache on 5.04?
[06:03] <nalioth> sno_: don't use unofficial repos
[06:04] <tritium> jgb: I believe /var/www
[06:04] <jgb> tritium: ty
[06:04] <sno_> nalioth: i got backports problems
[06:04] <sno_> :>
[06:04] <nalioth> sno_: yes you do
[06:04] <thesilentkiller> ive googled for quite a long time now. but i cant get to the end of it. how do i install jdk1.5?
[06:04] <nalioth> thesilentkiller: hoary or breezy?
[06:05] <thesilentkiller> nalioth: hoary
[06:05] <nalioth> thesilentkiller: http://www.giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/
[06:06] <thesilentkiller> nalioth: can you please give me a little more info on how to use the files up there...mm..err...newbie :-s
[06:06] <beekay> is anyone else having problems updating mozilla firefox?
[06:06] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  yeah it'll be fine i think.. 5.10 isnt really stable yet (14more days! )
[06:06] <sno_> beekay: yes, me.
[06:06] <beekay> :(
[06:06] <beekay> does it say it cant find the server
[06:06] <sno_> no, just it cant do updates
[06:07] <tritium> ah, the troubles with backports
[06:07] <beekay> It is not possible to upgrade all packages.
[06:07] <beekay> This means that besides the actual upgrade of the packages some further action (such as installing or removing packages) is required. Please use Synaptic "Smart Upgrade" or "apt-get dist-upgrade" to fix the situation.
[06:07] <nalioth> thesilentkiller: once you get the one you want, open a terminal to where it is and type "sudo dpkg -i filename.deb"
[06:07] <nalioth> sno_: comment your backports out
[06:07] <thesilentkiller> nalioth: k, thanks
[06:08] <Whistler> how do i use my joystick with ubuntu?
[06:08] <Shin_Gouki> kemik: spam : just 6 hours more to go before i ll have the iso , i think i am very exited LOL
[06:08] <DPadclear> How do you list all installed packages with dpkg and how do you tell which package a file comes from (assuming you're looking at a file in your /usr/bin dir)?
[06:09] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  oouch.. 6hours :)
[06:10] <Shin_Gouki> kemik: yes i only have 24 kbyte/s down
[06:10] <kennethlove> is the CD provided in the topic the same as the Breezy Badger preview?
[06:10] <kemik> :/
[06:10] <nalioth> kennethlove: yes
[06:10] <tritium> DPadclear: dpkg -l to list installed files.  dpkg -S <filename> for the second question
[06:10] <kennethlove> nalioth: thanks, thought so.
[06:10] <kennethlove> i'm having problems upgrading. anyone want to rescue my box?
[06:11] <danfg> tritium, wierd, i'm trying to install Sun's JRE, falling miserably. I downloaded jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin. when i "sudo apt-get ...", i get "Couldn't find java-package". If i try "fakeroot ...", "command not found"
[06:11] <beekay> W: Failed to fetch http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/main/binary-i386/firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu15_i386.deb
[06:11] <beekay>   404 Not Found
[06:11] <beekay> W: Failed to fetch http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/main/binary-i386/mozilla-firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu15_all.deb
[06:11] <beekay>   404 Not Found
[06:11] <beekay> why cant i do that
[06:11] <tritium> beekay: don't paste!
[06:11] <kemik> dont paste in here
[06:11] <beekay> im sorry
[06:11] <kemik> READ TOPIC
[06:12] <tritium> danfg: you need to enable the multiverse repo
[06:12] <Shin_Gouki> @kemik : do u have "other" low level guids which i can read in the mean time??
[06:12] <thesilentkiller> beekay: the mirror site is down. use some other mirror
[06:12] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  not really...
[06:12] <kemik> gtg::food
[06:12] <tritium> !tell danfg about repositories
[06:13] <Shin_Gouki> kemik, :/ to bad  that should be an important topic.. and so less documentation :/
[06:13] <sno_> my xmms hangs up when it should play an mp3 file.. strange. :I
[06:14] <DeVeRaS> guys, i installed ubuntu with apt-get and i don't kow the admin password. doesn't ask for noting so i can't do anything... how do i set up it?
[06:14] <bob2> DeVeRaS: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[06:14] <bob2> DeVeRaS: tho I don't know how you can "install ubuntu with apt-get"
[06:14] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  mm, but debian/ubuntu isnt really for the old hw... i'd look into slackware / vectorlinux if you want real performance
[06:15] <jklsjsdls> anyone know off a linux programe that reads .ctf files
[06:15] <chicken-man> what is the command that shows how much disk space you have free ?
[06:15] <kennethlove> alright. i tried using the repositories last night, but that failed, so i downloaded the Breezy CD and now it's failing. install works fine but it never successfully boots.
[06:15] <jklsjsdls> there catalog files of some sort
[06:15] <kemik> bob2:  what, you never did apt-get install ubuntu? =)
[06:15] <kemik> chicken-man:  df
[06:15] <DeVeRaS> bob2 i mean install phpbb2
[06:15] <tritium> kennethlove: breezy is still in development
[06:15] <bob2> DeVeRaS: also, #debian is not an approriate channel to ask ubuntu questions
[06:15] <kennethlove> tritium: yes, i know. but it's installable.
[06:15] <DrTiger> when will breezy support ATI dri again?
[06:15] <chicken-man> kemik, thanks
[06:15] <bob2> DeVeRaS: it has no /usr/share/doc/phpbb2/?
[06:15] <DeVeRaS> guys, i installed phpbb2 with apt-get and i don't kow the admin password. doesn't ask for noting so i can't do anything... how do i set up it?
[06:15] <bob2> DeVeRaS: as much as hoary did
[06:15] <tritium> kennethlove: yes, it is
[06:16] <DeVeRaS> let me check
[06:16] <zAo^> selinium, sorry, was afk. No; no1 did answer. You know a programm for that?
[06:16] <DeVeRaS> no, no doc
[06:17] <DeVeRaS> i don't have a login, nor i was asked for one...
[06:17] <kennethlove> tritium: after the CD  install, when it goes to finish installation by installing files off the hard disk, it keeps freezing at 4%.
[06:17] <selinium> zAo^, look up dcraw in synaptic
[06:17] <ckrueger> has anyone ever messed with Firestarter?
[06:18] <tritium> kennethlove: well, hopefully it'll work for you when it's released
[06:18] <selinium> ckrueger, yep
[06:18] <ckrueger> i'm trying to get my buddy's fileserver/router set up, but he refuses to learn iptables or anything
[06:18] <ckrueger> he just wants point-and-click
[06:18] <zAo^> selinium, but how can I get thumbnails in -for example- nautilus/gthumb2?
[06:18] <ckrueger> so i'm trying to figure this piece of crap out to get him going
[06:18] <selinium> firestarter is for him then!
[06:18] <ckrueger> selinium, i'm getting weird errors regarding the DHCP daemon
[06:18] <joachim_> is there somewhere I can give a list of sudo commands I can allow myself to do without the sudo?
[06:18] <jjazz> joachim_:  man sudoers
[06:19] <selinium> ckrueger, What are you trying to do?
[06:19] <ckrueger> selinium, i'm trying to set up internet connection sharing (routing) with a DHCP server
[06:19] <kenro> Free NetRadio! Boycott everything blocking streaming over their network!
[06:19] <ckrueger> selinium, he's an Apple fanboy
[06:19] <ckrueger> selinium, so point-and-click is critical
[06:20] <selinium> k So have you installed firestarter?
[06:20] <ckrueger> that's insulting
[06:20] <ckrueger> lol
[06:20] <ckrueger> yes, it is installed
[06:20] <ckrueger> and it works when it's not trying to do ip masq
[06:20] <steve> can anyone help me install my x800xl?
[06:20] <selinium> :)
[06:20] <kennethlove> hah. so no help. :)
[06:20] <ckrueger> however, every time i try to start it with ICS enabled it gives an error
[06:20] <ckrueger> selinium, and syslog says "No subnet declaration for eth0 (x.x.x.x)
[06:20] <steve> the fglrx driver doesn't seem to have my video card supported
[06:21] <ckrueger> i've edited the /etc/default/dhcp file and changed INTERFACES to eth1
[06:21] <ckrueger> which is the internal net
[06:21] <ckrueger> and i've even manually edited the /etc/init.d/dhcp script and set it to eth1 there as well
[06:21] <tritium> kenro: you don't network admins to have the right to block what they want?
[06:21] <ckrueger> and it still kicks back the "No subnet declaration for eth0" every time it tries to start (at the hands of Firestarter)
[06:23] <ckrueger> selinium, any ideas?
[06:23] <MachineScrew> is there any way to stop services from loading on boot in Breezy
[06:23] <selinium> ckrueger, It's Ok. I use it to control my webservers ports, not quite sure I konw enough to help. Have looked in the preferences to see whether you are blocking any of the broadcast messages?
[06:23] <MachineScrew> bum dosn't work
[06:23] <kenro> tritium: Don't we have the right to access every legal service anywhere?
[06:23] <BurgerMann> I have installed sshd on my server. Suddenly I can't connect to it. Now I partly know what do to to gain access again, something like RSA fingerprint in a local file that needs to be flushed or somehting. Does anyone know what file it is?
[06:23] <ckrueger> selinium, it doesn't even get to the point where the service can broadcast messages
[06:24] <tritium> kenro: not on others' networks, if they don't want you to
[06:24] <MachineScrew> any one
[06:24] <MachineScrew> is there any way to stop services from loading on boot in Breezy
[06:24] <ckrueger> selinium, but internal net broadcast filtering is disabled anyway
[06:24] <MachineScrew> bum dosn't work
[06:24] <tritium> bummer, dude
[06:24] <kenro> tritium: I could understand blocking gnuttella, but web-based radio broadcasts?
[06:25] <tritium> kenro: they can do whatever theyt want with their own networks.
[06:25] <snorks> MachineScrew: Find out what the service is called. Find out which runlevel it is. rm the entry
[06:25] <ubuntu_fan> clear
[06:25] <ubuntu_fan> hey guys
[06:25] <selinium> ckrueger, Like i said I am no TCP/IP guru. If you cant get any help here, try #linux :) You seem to konw more than me on this subject! :)
[06:25] <MachineScrew> ?
[06:25] <ckrueger> selinium, heh, thanks for your help
[06:25] <MachineScrew> isn't that bad
[06:25] <ckrueger> selinium, one final question though...  you use it for IP masquerading, no?
[06:26] <ckrueger> selinium, if so, are you using the dhcp server version 2 or 3?
[06:26] <kenro> tritium: Which is irrelevent by now. Took long enough, but I seem to be connected. New problem, though -- My antiquated pcspeaker system seems not equal to the task...
[06:26] <snorks> MachineScrew: let's say you want sshd to NOT start on bootup. check inside /etc/init.d/ to get the name (example: sshd). Find out what run level it is by checking the /etc/rc0-7.d
[06:26] <ryback> hi
[06:27] <ubuntu_fan> can anyone please tell me where is the X server configure file located in Ubuntu i would like to chage my resolution
[06:27] <selinium> ckrueger, I just use it to open/close ports and to drop packet probes.
[06:27] <snorks> MachineScrew: look for anything like S20sshd (s means start). if you find it in lets say /etc/rc3.d, type rm S20sshd
[06:27] <tritium> ubuntu_fan: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:27] <ckrueger> selinium, ahh, ok
[06:27] <spiral> hi
[06:27] <ckrueger> selinium, then tell me this...  by default, does it block everything until you make exclusive allow declarations?
[06:27] <ubuntu_fan> tritium, thanks
[06:27] <snorks> MachineScrew: if you ls in /etc/, you will see the rc#.d im talking about
[06:27] <tritium> ubuntu_fan: the file is /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but you don't want to edit it by hand, in general, unless you have no choice
[06:27] <steve> i just downloaded a driver, how do i install it?
[06:27] <selinium> ckrueger, incoming, yes outgoing no
[06:28] <steve> fglrx64_6_8_0-8.16.20-1.x86_64.rpm, how would i install that
[06:28] <kenro> tritium: They put it up for public access, they owe the public. They should otherwise lock access, or disclaim the * out of it.
[06:28] <tritium> steve: don't use the rpm.  Use an ubuntu .deb
[06:28] <selinium> ckrueger, in FS /prefs /Network settings does it 'see' you network?
[06:28] <snorks> MachineScrew: did you understand any of that?
[06:28] <ubuntu_fan> tritium,  yea i go it now THANKS
[06:29] <tritium> kenro: no, various organizations have networks for _their own_ needs, not the needs of the general public
[06:29] <steve> i downloaded the ati drivers off of ubuntu, but they don't support my video card or are out of date for some reason
[06:29] <steve> by using sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[06:29] <ckrueger> selinium, yep, which is why it works fine with ICS disabled
[06:29] <kenro> tritium: Disclaim it, then.
[06:29] <ckrueger> selinium, i'm just finding that i get that DHCP error every time it tries to start it with ICS enabled
[06:30] <tritium> kenro: ?
[06:30] <selinium> ckrueger, have you set the DHCP for local network to on?
[06:30] <MachineScrew> also my ubuntu splash screen isn't coming up
[06:30] <tritium> kenro: by the way, this is offtopic
[06:30] <ckrueger> selinium, yep
[06:30] <MachineScrew> what is up with that
[06:30] <ckrueger> selinium, DHCP starts fine whenever i manually call the init script now
[06:30] <selinium> ckrueger, I am running out of ideas!
[06:30] <ckrueger> selinium, it just chokes on its own dick whenever it's done through firestarter
[06:31] <kenro> tritium: Right. Switch over to #network-rights-and-responsibilities
[06:31] <steve> i'm on amd64 ubuntu btw
[06:31] <tritium> no thanks, kenro
[06:31] <steve> anyone know where i can get the 64bit drivers for an ati x800xl?
[06:31] <kenro> tritium: ;)
[06:31] <selinium> ckrueger, Sry, beats me!
[06:31] <nalioth> steve: that may be your problem
[06:32] <ckrueger> selinium, heh, thanks anyway for trying :)
[06:32] <steve> what is my problem?
[06:32] <selinium> :)
[06:33] <nalioth> wtf
[06:33] <ckrueger> selinium, i figured it out
[06:33] <bob2> steve: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:33] <bob2> steve: if that doesn't work in breezy, please file a bug
[06:34] <selinium> ckrueger, go on then :)
[06:34] <steve> breezy?
[06:35] <nalioth> bots are running wild today
[06:35] <tritium> steve: the next stable release, due out in mid October
[06:35] <steve> i don't have breezy though..?
[06:35] <selinium> ckrueger, WHat was it?
[06:36] <kenro> Kicker just crashed on me.
[06:36] <puff> I need an app to convert ogg files to mp3 files, so they'll play on my obsolete mp3-only player.
[06:36] <tritium> steve: there are only preview releases of breezy out at this point
[06:36] <bob2> steve: try it anyway
[06:36] <kenro> That never happened in fBSD
[06:36] <steve> bob2,  i tried https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[06:36] <steve> it doesn't work out for me
[06:36] <steve> i looked at the error log, and it couldn't find my card
[06:36] <puff> I'm eagerly looking forward to breezy, I think/hope it will fix certain kernel problems that I've been having trouble with.
[06:36] <steve> x800xl doesn't seem to be on the list as well
[06:37] <tritium> puff: you sure you want to do lossy-to-lossy format conversion?
[06:37] <sno_> XMMS doesn't play mp3s.. it just hangs up. - can someone help me?
[06:37] <steve> bob2, by the way,  i'm using aa 6600gt right now, if i follow those steps on my 660gt, will that work?
[06:37] <steve> sno_ change the sound output
[06:38] <bob2> sno_: change it to use esound for output
[06:38] <bob2> steve: should do
[06:38] <Hendric> i just finished install breezy on my old cpu.. it can't display the login screen (monitor goes standby)... i think it can't support the default screen size.. how can i change default resolution?
[06:39] <steve> bob2, they say to Edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change "ati" to "fglrx", perhaps with a command like:
[06:39] <tritium> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, after dropping to a virtual conosole, Hendric
[06:39] <steve> bob2 but i dont' have any "ati" written in there
[06:39] <tritium> console even
[06:41] <MMXGN> hello
[06:42] <pluffsy> hello
[06:43] <indypende> how can i change my freenode irc password?
[06:43] <pluffsy> I'm having some troubles that used to be random (from multiple installations of ubuntu 5.04) but now they've stuck. every time I start gnome I get problems with applets (they won't start) and nautilus won't start. The first error I get is something like couldn't start bonobo-activation server.
[06:44] <pluffsy> any ideas of what I can do?
[06:44] <indypende> how can i change my freenode irc password?
[06:45] <puff> tritium: Well, I can re-rip some of them, but others I loaned the CD to a friend.
[06:45] <nalioth> bob2: is it me or do the bots wait until the channel goes -r to return?
[06:45] <kumakun> Anyone install the breezy update and have it hose their firefox?
[06:45] <fredforfaen> !breezy
[06:45] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[06:46] <kumakun> Yes, yes, that's all well and good.
[06:46] <kumakun> I know where to find info on it. I'm looking for whether this is isolated or not
[06:46] <kinhu> anyone here?
[06:47] <kumakun> I am
[06:47] <nalioth> kinhu: no we're all at the zoo
[06:47] <kinhu> do u know that spript that automatically mount NTFS pastitons on ubuntu desktop?
[06:47] <kinhu> where i can find it?
[06:47] <kumakun> Oh, there we go. I was wondering if anyone was actually here to give me a proper answer.
[06:47] <MMXGN> anybody has managed to have 3d acceleration with ati cards in breezy?
[06:47] <ccooke> We need an FAQ, and a link to it in the title...
[06:48] <nalioth> ubotu: tell kinhu about windowsdrives
[06:48] <kinhu> MMXGN, i want that too!
[06:48] <g|patrick> someone here using kopete?
[06:48] <ccooke> MMXGN: yes.
[06:49] <kinhu> mmxgn, wich VSG u have?
[06:49] <kinhu> vga*
[06:49] <MMXGN> radeon 9600xt
[06:49] <MMXGN> and i have failed to have 3d accell, says that xfree86-dri is not present
[06:50] <ccooke> MMXGN: if you run fglrxinfo, what does it say?
[06:51] <MMXGN> paste here?
[06:51] <nalioth> mxpxpod: not here
[06:51] <nalioth> MMXGN: not here
[06:51] <nalioth> ubotu: tell MMXGN about paste
[06:51] <MMXGN> w8 a bit then plz :)
[06:51] <MMXGN> yeah i saw it
[06:52] <MMXGN> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2638
[06:52] <MMXGN> :)
[06:53] <MMXGN> i have apt-getted the corresponding restricted modules, yet...
[06:53] <ccooke> MMXGN: have you loaded the fglrx module?
[06:54] <ccooke> MMXGN: sudo modprobe fglrx
[06:54] <kinhu> MMXGN, where u downloaded your drivers for radeon9600 series?
[06:54] <ccooke> kinhu: they're in Hoary and Breezy already.
[06:54] <MMXGN> yes
[06:54] <kinhu> already?
[06:54] <kinhu> omg
[06:54] <MMXGN> also i have an nforce2 chipset
[06:54] <kinhu> i didin knwe it!
[06:54] <ccooke> kinhu: ... hell, they were in warty
[06:54] <MMXGN> but when i put what they say apout agpthing
[06:55] <MMXGN> the screen doesnt load at all
[06:55] <MMXGN> :(
[06:55] <ccooke> MMXGN: doesn't load how?
[06:55] <MMXGN> i mean
[06:55] <BusMaster> is there a recommended way to compile a vanilla kernel for Ubuntu..? like make-kpkg is for debian?
[06:55] <MMXGN> it stays blank with a cursor
[06:55] <kinhu> what i have to do to activate my ATI dirver ?
[06:56] <MMXGN> w8 to try sth
[06:57] <mopatop> hey - quickie, is user_xattr available with the kernels in Breezy?
[06:58] <MMXGN> heck
[06:58] <mopatop> of course I'm using ext3
[06:58] <nickrud> mopatop, yes
[06:58] <MMXGN> i was wrong, it worket with internalagppart thingy but still no 3d accell :()
[06:58] <mopatop> nickrud: cheers
[06:59] <nickrud> BusMaster, you make a kernel just like in debian
[06:59] <nalioth> nickrud: wow! you do live b4 noon
[06:59] <nickrud> heh
[06:59] <nickrud> early to rise, late to bed, that's me
[07:00] <BusMaster> nickrud, oh cool
[07:01] <mopatop> nickrud: seems to have remounted fine, cheers
[07:01] <nickrud> mopatop, np
[07:01] <mopatop> I recommend everyone gives beagle a spin :)
[07:01] <mopatop> it's, well, very impressive
[07:04] <MMXGN> oh :(
[07:04] <MMXGN> any other ideas?
[07:07] <ryufreak> how do i find out my kernel version?
[07:07] <ryufreak> should be 5.04 right?
[07:07] <kennethlove> uname -a, i think
[07:08] <kinhu> does anyone here knows why i have to go "pppoeconf" every time i start ubuntu???
[07:10] <bud_> hello
[07:11] <bud_> need help ove configuring procmail
[07:11] <bud_> im using ubuntu 5.10 breezy
[07:12] <bud_> can anyone help
[07:12] <ThJ> hi! i'm migrating web/mail users over from a debian server to an ubuntu server. i'm using qmail/vpopmail on the debian box, but i dislike it because its inconvenient to set up and you have to compile it, etc... what mail system do you people recommend for web/mail hosting combos?
[07:12] <bud_> ok i see
[07:13] <ThJ> i would like to keep the ability for my customers to administer their e-mail domains.
[07:14] <bud_> i have configured procmail, but it doesnt deliver mail where i have configured, and in /var/mail.log is a lot of shit things what i havent configured
[07:15] <BiSK-8> hello
[07:15] <bud_> anyone know a good howto
[07:15] <BiSK-8> who helped me today with the bluetooth?
[07:15] <bud_> i have googled but havent found anything usefull
[07:15] <putz_kinhu> does any1 knows why i have to type "pppoeconf" every time i lo into ubuntu?
[07:15] <kumakun> Wow..Breezy is not playing nice with firefox...
[07:15] <lsuactiafner> hda: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy } failed opcode was: unknown hda: ATAPI reset complete end_request: I/O error dev hda, sector 0 Buffer I/O error on device hda, logical block 0
[07:15] <lsuactiafner> what the hell?
[07:16] <ompaul> bud_ http://www.xs4all.nl/~sister/mirror/procmail/
[07:16] <thundrcleeze> you're a few seconds late, ompaul
[07:17] <BiSK-8> i damn tried 2 update 2 breezy and ****ed up my system, i just formatted
[07:17] <BiSK-8> im on hoary
[07:17] <ompaul> thundrcleeze, if only people waited 10/15 minutes
[07:17] <BiSK-8> and downloading breezy
[07:17] <ompaul> ahh well
[07:17] <putz_kinhu> does any1 knows why i have to type "pppoeconf" every time i lo into ubuntu?
[07:17] <Quinthius> lsuactiafner: looks like bad disk, bad cable, or bad ide port :P
[07:17] <BiSK-8> putz_kinhu, no
[07:17] <putz_kinhu> T_T
[07:17] <kumakun> So far the only thing breezy has done to my system is not let me use firefox
[07:17] <ompaul> putz_kinhu, have a look at system administration networking and set your options from there
[07:17] <Quinthius> lsuactiafner: i've had lots of problems with crappy cables that cause i/o errors like that
[07:19] <MMXGN> anybody has managed to have ati opengl acceleration with breezy and is able to help me?
[07:19] <ompaul> ThJ, I like postfix for mail, after that its up to you how you want to read it or pop it
[07:19] <Quinthius> MMXGN: what's the problem?
[07:19] <DrTiger> breezy kills my windows boot entries every time it has to upgrade the kernel -.-
[07:19] <ompaul> MMXGN, no idea have you looked at the wiki page for ati?
[07:19] <nalioth> DrTiger: if you know it happens, back up your menu.lst b4 upgrading
[07:20] <dpro\> DrTiger, slap it till it stops
[07:20] <MMXGN> it says that xfree86-dri is missing on display 0:0
[07:20] <MMXGN> ompaul, yes i did
[07:20] <MMXGN> no luck :(
[07:20] <DrTiger> same problem here with ati card
[07:20] <Quinthius> MMXGN: what have you done so far? what all have you installed and configured?
[07:20] <MMXGN> xorg-driver-fglrx and restricted modules
[07:20] <ompaul> MMXGN, that is all I have to offer, from that I take it you tried the troubleshooting methods named onthat page?
[07:20] <MMXGN> for my kernel
[07:21] <dpro\> MMXGN, did you comment the dri parts in xorg.conf?
[07:21] <Quinthius> MMXGN: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for DRI errors for more information as to why it's not loading
[07:21] <lsuactiafner> Quinthius : cant be cable, its brand new asus cable and it worked before on a cdrom
[07:21] <FR500> hello
[07:21] <MMXGN> ompaul, read the whole of the binary ati drivers on wiki
[07:21] <lsuactiafner> but will replace cable to be usre
[07:21] <MMXGN> Quinthius, done that too, wait
[07:21] <Quinthius> lsuactiafner: brand new doesnt mean it's not defective
[07:21] <MMXGN> to c
[07:21] <DrTiger> which wiki page?
[07:21] <Quinthius> lsuactiafner: but it could be disk or ide controller too
[07:21] <FR500> i followed the wiki on how to software midi playback, but it won't work can you help me
[07:21] <basti> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[07:21] <basti> kernel? What should I respond to this?? (Hoary)
[07:22] <insites> is there a comparison page for fedora core and ubuntu anywhere? that lists differences like apt vs yum, etc?
[07:22] <FR500> basti: uname -a
[07:22] <obontu> i have no audio in my ubuntu, can some please help?
[07:22] <MMXGN> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2639
[07:22] <shadeofgrey> guys whats the package i have to install to get totem to play DVD's?
[07:22] <DrTiger> breezy really sucks
[07:22] <DrTiger> -.-
[07:22] <GNULinuxer> shadeofgrey: libdvddcss
[07:22] <GNULinuxer> DrTiger: why?
[07:22] <FR500> MMXGN: libdvddcss
[07:23] <basti> FR500, uname -a tells me the C header?
[07:23] <MMXGN> FR500, eh?
[07:23] <Quinthius> MMXGN: do an lsmod | grep fglrx, it list anything?
[07:23] <MMXGN> yep
[07:23] <DrTiger> because my battery isn't supported (I run out of power regularly because of that), I have worked for hours on the dri problem but not gotten anywhere...
[07:23] <inc|freaky> nalioth: well, it just doesnt want to work either it identifies to late or whatever i always join the other channel
[07:24] <DrTiger> and whenever it installs a new kernel it deletes my windows entry in the menu.lst
[07:24] <nalioth> inc|freaky: use hte "server password" field
[07:24] <Quinthius> MMXGN: and you're sure you installed the restricted modules of the same version as your kernel?
[07:24] <FR500> basti: uname -a outputs something like this Linux mobile3 2.6.10-5-386 #1 Thu Sep 8 06:18:41 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:24] <MMXGN> yep :)
[07:25] <FR500> this is what u need  2.6.10-5-386
[07:25] <MMXGN> i tried to reinstall it just to be sure and it says its the latest version
[07:25] <Quinthius> MMXGN: dmesg | grep fglrx, anything there that looks like an error?
[07:25] <FR500> i followed the wiki on how to software midi playback, but it won't work can you help me
[07:25] <KasperTech> Hi. I've got an offer for a Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo V2020 for only 1K $. But will the Intel 855GME graphics card do?
[07:25] <MMXGN> hmm, not
[07:26] <basti> FR500, yeah but I dont understand how that is supposed to help me, I need to point out where my C header is located in the file architecture...
[07:26] <MMXGN> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2640
[07:26] <Quinthius> MMXGN: and have you rebooted?
[07:26] <insites> how does ubuntu handle proprietary thing like codecs and drivers? is there an addon repository for apt or somesuch?
[07:26] <MMXGN> Quinthius, plenty of times
[07:26] <MMXGN> :/
[07:27] <Quinthius> MMXGN: can you paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[07:27] <MMXGN> sure
[07:27] <nalioth> insites: there are repos for most anything you want to do
[07:27] <inc|freaky> is there any way to theme kopete?
[07:28] <MMXGN> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2641
[07:28] <MMXGN> :)
[07:28] <Hendric> how do i upgrade my GTK2 to a higher version??
[07:28] <insites> nalioth, anyone maintaing a list of these repos... need to find a few drivers like my wifi and my pwc and others before i switch over from fc
[07:28] <nalioth> insites: packages.ubuntu.com
[07:29] <nalioth> insites: if it works on fc, it'll work here
[07:29] <insites> nalioth, does ubuntu use rpms?
[07:29] <shadeofgrey> okay look it telld me theres no installation candidate for libdvdcss -- what do i need to add  to my sources.list filke if im already running breezy?
[07:29] <nalioth> insites: it CAN, but ubuntu debs are recommended
[07:30] <Quinthius> MMXGN: hmm, looks fine except for GLcore, you dont have to load it as DRI should automatically include it
[07:30] <Quinthius> MMXGN: and i'm not sure what i2c is... i don't have that in mine
[07:31] <shadeofgrey> guys
[07:31] <insites> nalioth, thanks... im just trying to get my feet wet in ubuntu a little..
[07:31] <MMXGN> shall that be the problem? let me check it :)
[07:31] <insites> will download tonight then...
[07:31] <nalioth> insites: linux is linux
[07:31] <goofytj> Here a kde user, I got this annoying problem. The mouseover-effect if the links in my main panel is completely black, I can send you a screenshot if you wish, I've been trying to change all color settings with no result. Anyone got a suggestion ?
[07:31] <insites> breezy decently stable?
[07:31] <shadeofgrey> ....im sick and all i want to do is watch a DVD
[07:31] <shadeofgrey> insites:  yes!
[07:31] <nalioth> insites: ubuntu is debian based
[07:31] <Quinthius> MMXGN: i dont think it's the problem but who knows... the only suspicious thing i'm seeing so far is in the DRI warnings where it says unknown third-party board...
[07:32] <MMXGN> :(
[07:32] <MMXGN> though, it worked fine with sarge
[07:32] <shadeofgrey> whats the name of the repo that contains libdvdcss in breezy??
[07:32] <MMXGN> anyway, let me try removing those
[07:32] <frenkel> i have a problem with my keyboard layout
[07:32] <WildSurge> i just installed ubuntu and i have a problem with my floppy-disc
[07:32] <frenkel> in gentoo linux it is working the way i want it, but ubuntu works different with the same settings in xorg.conf
[07:32] <WildSurge> it just won't mount
[07:33] <DrTiger> should DRI work for an ATI card, if you installed the binary driver from aptitude?
[07:33] <Quinthius> DrTiger: mine does..
[07:33] <DrTiger> yeah
[07:33] <frenkel> us_intl doesn't allow me to type <`>+<e> en produce an e with ` on top of it
[07:33] <frenkel> how can i achieve that? i couldn't find it on the forum
[07:33] <DrTiger> but I invested hours
[07:33] <DrTiger> and it's really frustrating me
[07:34] <WildSurge> it says
[07:34] <bpf> hello all
[07:34] <MMXGN> bah, wansnt that
[07:34] <zAo^> how can I go back to ubuntu "server" or minimal???
[07:34] <WildSurge> mount, special device /dev/fd0 doesn't exist
[07:34] <Pluk> frenkel, running breezy?
[07:34] <frenkel> jep
[07:34] <bpf> anyone know if the Eclipse IDE works with Hoary on amd64?
[07:34] <Pluk> check this jut posted this :) http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=70297
[07:34] <shedi> zAo^: debfoster
[07:34] <Quinthius> MMXGN: you could try a "sudo depmod -ae" and then rebooting
[07:34] <Pluk> us_intl doesnt exist nomore
[07:34] <zAo^> shedi, no other way?
[07:34] <Pluk> its a variant in the us keymap now
[07:34] <MMXGN> what does it do?
[07:34] <MMXGN> (just to know, done it)
[07:35] <Quinthius> DrTiger: post your entire /var/log/Xorg.0.log, /etc/X11/xorg.conf, the output of "lsmod | grep fglrx", and "dmesg | grep fglrx" to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/
[07:35] <Quinthius> MMXGN: rebuilds module dependency cache or something..
[07:35] <frenkel> Pluk, thanks, i didn' t search enough i guess :)
[07:35] <Quinthius> MMXGN: what board do you have? 9600xt?
[07:35] <Pluk> took me 4 hours to find out myself yesterday frenkel
[07:35] <frenkel> this is much more the way it should be :p
[07:35] <frenkel> lol
[07:35] <frenkel> thanks for sharing :)
[07:36] <Pluk> yw :)
[07:36] <shedi> zAo^: you could do an apt-get remove --purge the things you don't want
[07:36] <MMXGN> Quinthius, yes
[07:36] <frenkel> gonna try it right away
[07:36] <frenkel> bye
[07:36] <WildSurge> how come ubunthu didn't create dev/fd0 for me?
[07:36] <MMXGN> shall i reboot now?
[07:36] <WildSurge> and how do i create it?
[07:36] <shedi> zAo^, it's safer to use debfoster
[07:36] <XHK> how can i swich from gnome to fluxbox?
[07:36] <nightair> Breezy install asked me if my system clock was UTC. I think I answered that incorrectly because when I boot to win2K partition the time is hours off. how to change that now that breezy is installed?
[07:37] <XHK> how can i switch from gnome to fluxbox?
[07:37] <Hendric> networking problem here... i installed 2 ubuntu units... but i can't share files.. it asks for "You must login to access MABAN".. i didn't set any passwords for my sharing... how can i fix this?
[07:37] <BiSK-8> hi
[07:37] <zAo^> shedi, I know. Thnx. I thought of something like 'apt-get install ubuntu-minimal'
[07:37] <WildSurge> doh!
[07:37] <MMXGN> rebooting
[07:37] <WildSurge> why does ubuntu not automatically load the floppy module?!
[07:37] <nalioth> XHK: install fluxbox and choose it at your next login from "sessions"
[07:37] <XHK> ok ty
[07:37] <BiSK-8> how can i download k3b?
[07:38] <shedi> BiSK-8,  apt-get install k3b
[07:38] <shadeofgrey> zAo:  the painful way would be rebooting into an install CD and typing ...i think ubuntu-minimal at the boot prompt for the install CD...  but you'd loose all your crap
[07:38] <BiSK-8> it wont work
[07:38] <BiSK-8> im on the first version of hoary
[07:38] <BiSK-8> shedi
[07:38] <BiSK-8> says that iws impossibile 2 find
[07:38] <shedi> BiSK-8,  you have to edit /etc/apt/source.list
[07:38] <shadeofgrey> bisk:  upgrade dude...  soon...  now...  faster...  yesterday
[07:39] <BiSK-8> i know
[07:39] <BiSK-8> i had 2 format
[07:39] <BiSK-8> 2day
[07:39] <mellon> So I just did the install with the colony 5 CD.   It went well, but there was a period in the middle where the screen just went black and I thought it'd died.   A few minutes later it came back with an ongoing install.   Has anyone else seen this?
[07:39] <shedi> BiSK-8, comment out the universe repositories
[07:39] <BiSK-8> im downloading breezer
[07:39] <BiSK-8> but im not gonna be able 2 do anything with the iso file without k3b
[07:39] <shadeofgrey> bisk:  breezY
[07:39] <BiSK-8> i try 2 upgrade
[07:40] <BiSK-8> but it says that there is nothing 2 install
[07:40] <Hendric> networking problem here... i installed 2 ubuntu units... but i can't share files.. it asks for "You must login to access MABAN".. i didn't set any passwords for my sharing... how can i fix this?
[07:40] <BiSK-8> and i tru 2 update an it says the same
[07:40] <Arkainium> what is need to play mpc files?
[07:40] <Quinthius> DrTiger: first thing i notice is that you have compositing enabled. that automatically turns 3d accel off
[07:40] <FR500> Arkainium: libmuse i think or musepack
[07:41] <DrTiger> oh
[07:41] <DrTiger> I think I added it after having the problems ... but I'll turn it off now
[07:42] <Quinthius> DrTiger:  "Composite extension enabled, disabling direct rendering"
[07:42] <DrTiger> hmm I think I will restart now.... wait a moment
[07:44] <FR500> when i install a package with force depends, it appears as broken in synaptic, anyway to override that?
[07:44] <WildSurge> okay, seems the floppy thing was easy after all :)
[07:44] <WildSurge> just make sure it loads the damn floppy modules after booting
[07:45] <WildSurge> now for the soundcard :(
[07:45] <WildSurge> anyone here that can (will) help me get my isa soundcard to work?
[07:45] <WildSurge> soundblaster awe 32
[07:46] <ndlovu> on hoary, is there some way to upgrade samba to version 3.14 without changing any other packages?
[07:46] <foodcoman> Anyone know what the final Kernel version will be in Breezy final?
[07:46] <DrTiger> tadaa it works ^ ^
[07:47] <absenth> is there a secret to installing / configuring kismet in Hoary, with an intel extreme wireless B/G card?
[07:47] <Quinthius> DrTiger: :D
[07:47] <absenth> or a how-to would even be better :)
[07:47] <WildSurge> hmmm, should pnpdump be installed on ubuntu as standard?
[07:49] <NightLord> Does anyone know if i can apt-get breezy?
[07:49] <nalioth> NightLord: yes, see the /topic
[07:49] <Strog> !breezy
[07:49] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[07:49] <NightLord> I see
[07:50] <WildSurge> anyone here at all to help? :(
[07:50] <[LethAL] > No, of course not :D
[07:50] <NightLord> Wunderbar!
[07:50] <[LethAL] > ?
[07:51] <NightLord> maybe this will fix my problems
[07:51] <WildSurge> how do i configure isa cards under hoary?
[07:51] <[LethAL] > With what?
[07:51] <[LethAL] > WildSurge, no idea :(
[07:51] <WildSurge> more specifically my awe 32 soundblaster
[07:51] <NightLord> mainly keyboard and mouse
[07:51] <{X}> hi
[07:51] <ndlovu> can I change my sources.list to include debian repositories and then do an upgrade of just one package somehow?
[07:51] <WildSurge> the sound is working only if i manually load all my soundmodules
[07:51] <{X}> anyone got some good programs i should install on ubuntu?
[07:51] <DrTiger> so now about the acpi
[07:51] <Tomcat_> WildSurge: Put those modules in /etc/modules
[07:51] <[LethAL] > Yes, but it's not recommended and neither us or debian will help ;)
[07:51] <NightLord> LethAL, what do you have in ISA
[07:51] <{X}> anyone got some good programs i should install on ubuntu?
[07:51] <{X}> anyone got some good programs i should install on ubuntu?
[07:52] <DrTiger> should the battery be recognized at all?
[07:52] <NightLord> no wait, i mean WildSurge
[07:52] <[LethAL] > I don't have any ISA sockets or cards
[07:52] <ndlovu> or can I download just the samba 3.14 debs and dpkg -i it?
[07:52] <hunger> How do I get my box (breezy) to resume instead of doing the normal startup?
[07:52] <NightLord> wrong person, sorry
[07:52] <Strog> {X}: IRC manners app would be nice
[07:52] <willvarfar> on hoary, I am trying to mount my ntfs partition; I can mount it and root can look around it, but my normal login gets 'access denied'.  Where might I be going wrong?
[07:52] <shedi> ndlovu, that you can do
[07:52] <NightLord> erm, i might have an idea willavafat
[07:52] <DrTiger> It's a bit frustrating to work with a laptop that doesnt tell you how much power the battery still has
[07:52] <NightLord> did you use sudo?
[07:52] <ndlovu> shedi: that being update repositories or download the debs?
[07:53] <absenth> !ntfs
[07:53] <ubotu> [ntfs]  the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.
[07:53] <willvarfar> NightLord, I did; that was in the wiki instructions
[07:53] <bluefoxicy> damnit fucking breezy
[07:53] <{X}> anyone got some good programs i should install on ubuntu?
[07:53] <{X}> anyone got some good programs i should install on ubuntu?
[07:53] <{X}> anyone got some good programs i should install on ubuntu?
[07:53] <{X}> anyone got some good programs i should install on ubuntu?
[07:53] <[LethAL] > Lnaguage
[07:53] <[LethAL] > Language*
[07:53] <absenth> sorry, what's the command to have it tell me, vs, the whole channel?
[07:53] <NightLord> yes X: go to the terminal type in the terminal:
[07:53] <[LethAL] > {X}, just take a browse in Synaptic
[07:53] <NightLord> type in shred * -l
[07:53] <bluefoxicy> I have to unmount it first >:|
[07:53] <Strog> {X}: 17k apps and you want a suggestion without telling us what you want to use it for?  Seems silly
[07:53] <[LethAL] > absenth, /msg ubotu <topic>
[07:54] <shedi> ndlovu, you can update rep and get the package with apt-get --download samba
[07:54] <absenth> LethAL, Danke
[07:54] <g|patrick> {X}: opera, install opera
[07:54] <willvarfar> aha, NightLord, if I omit the sudo then I can browse it; (the script on the wiki didn't work for me, couldn't find hda1 for some reason)
[07:55] <NightLord> odd
[07:55] <NightLord> hmm, well, at least it works :)
[07:55] <ndlovu> shedi: thanks! might that cause conflicts with other packages?
[07:55] <Hendric> how can i install fonts on breezy???
[07:55] <[LethAL] > WildSurge, try sda
[07:55] <[LethAL] > 1
[07:55] <[LethAL] > Hendric, search synaptic for fonts
[07:55] <[LethAL] > !tell Hendric about fonts
[07:55] <Quinthius> bluefoxicy: of course you have to unmount it first
[07:55] <shedi> ndlovu, sorry, it's done with apt-get install --download-only package
[07:55] <absenth> Uboto is amazing!
[07:56] <absenth> Ubotu even.
[07:56] <nalioth> NightLord: refrain from advice such as that, please
[07:56] <ubotu> I don't know, absenth
[07:56] <absenth> sorry.
[07:56] <WildSurge> lethal, sda?
[07:56] <NightLord> what typing shred?
[07:56] <Quinthius> bluefoxicy: if you just pull it out, the OS has no chance to unmount and make sure everything is properly written...
[07:56] <shedi> ndlovu, yes it can cause dependency problems
[07:56] <nalioth> NightLord: yes. we have very new to *nix user who will do it
[07:56] <willvarfar> hmm, now Kino claims invalid formats all the time; from one problem to the next.. argh
[07:56] <shedi> ndlovu, if there are you can use apt-get -f install afterwards
[07:56] <NightLord> ooh, damn
[07:57] <NightLord> wouldn't work anyway, didn't tell him to sudo
[07:57] <[LethAL] > WildSurge, if you don't have hda1 I'd assume you have a SCSI hard drive
[07:57] <WildSurge> ehh
[07:57] <nalioth> NightLord: you ever hear 'knows enough to be dangerous'  ? dont give any weapons away
[07:57] <WildSurge> ur mistaking me for someone else
[07:57] <WildSurge> i wanna get my soundcard working
[07:57] <[LethAL] > Ah
[07:57] <[LethAL] > lol
[07:57] <[LethAL] > Lack of coffee
[07:57] <NightLord> how do I get xvidtune to keep my settings? I know theres a website somewhere, but dunno where
[07:58] <XHK> Can i update gaim in terminal? If yes, then how?
[07:58] <ndlovu> shedi: thanks! any idea where the breezy versions can be found? I'd rather upgrade from breezy rather than from debian direct if the version's right...
[07:58] <NightLord> XHK
[07:58] <[LethAL] > sudo apt-get upgrade gaim
[07:58] <WildSurge> my soundcard only works after manually adding all the modules and then starting esd
[07:58] <XHK> NightLord ?
[07:58] <[LethAL] > Assuming there is one, of course
[07:58] <NightLord> yes, go to terminal, sudo then run apt-get install Gaim
[07:58] <WildSurge> if i try to add them at boottime ubuntu hangs
[07:58] <ndlovu> shedi: just checked... seems to be the right version
[07:58] <XHK> NightLord ty
[07:58] <NightLord> it will put new one in
[07:58] <NightLord> however
[07:58] <shedi> ndlovu, I understand that there are breezy instructions in topic
[07:59] <NightLord> the version on apt is a bit outdated, i'd reccomend you to the gaime website (http://gaim.sourceforge.net) and download the installer, then just sh it
[07:59] <ndlovu> shedi: thanks for the help!
[08:00] <WildSurge> http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Creative+Labs&card=Sound+Blaster+64+Value.&chip=sb16%2C+emu8000&module=sbawe
[08:00] <evian> how can I automatically msg NickServ with my ID when X-Chat starts up?
[08:01] <FR500> when i install a package with force depends, it appears as broken in synaptic, anyway to override that?
[08:01] <nalioth> evian: what client do you use?
[08:01] <NightLord> so does anyone know how to get xvidtune to save my settings, I've done it before, but i can't remember how
[08:01] <havoc> evian: in the config for a server/network, 'command' or something
[08:01] <evian> nalioth: X-Chat
[08:01] <nalioth> FR500: why would you? you forced it into a situation of breakage
[08:01] <havoc> nalioth: he said "when X-Chat starts up" :)
[08:02] <nalioth> evian: in the server dialog, click 'freenode' and to the right "edit" in the 'server password' box, put your pass
[08:02] <nalioth> havoc: i'm drunk
[08:02] <havoc> nalioth: good man :)
[08:02] <NightLord> ok, now I gotta find a good sequencer for linux (since cubase SX3 doesn't run that good with wine)
[08:02] <evian> oh ok thanks
[08:02] <xiaogil> is there an alternative to Google Earth on Linux ? WW2D ?
[08:02] <absenth> nalioth, Drunk is awesome.
[08:02] <absenth> nalioth, if I could be I'd be drunk at work.
[08:02] <rikva> I installed VMWare Workstation on my Hoary system, but I need to be root to start it. Any suggestions?
[08:02] <NightLord> xiaogil: run it with wine
[08:02] <NightLord> it runs pretty wekk
[08:03] <nalioth> absenth: koolaid
[08:03] <xiaogil> how to add WW2D in the source list ?
[08:03] <NightLord> rikva, sudo
[08:03] <rikva> NightLord: except from sudoing or suing
[08:03] <absenth> nalioth, I'm more of a Coffee & Jolt kinda guy, but Koolaid has it's place.
[08:03] <BiSK-8> do u ppl know any good programs 2 burn iso files 2 cd?
[08:03] <NightLord> use "run as a different user"
[08:03] <NightLord> BisK
[08:03] <NightLord> XCDRoast
[08:03] <shadeofgrey> okay guys i still need help... i scoured the forums and found nothing helpful...  what do i need to add to my sources.list file to install libdvdcss on breezy???
[08:04] <nalioth> ubotu: tell shadeofgrey about restricted
[08:04] <NightLord> shadeofgray
[08:04] <rikva> NightLord: okay, the thing is that on my other hoary system, I don't have to be root.
[08:04] <NightLord> use sudo gedit, go to /etc/apt/sources.list add the lines save and run apt-get update
[08:04] <NightLord> did you install it as root?
[08:04] <xiaogil> NightLord: Google Earth doesn't work on my computer with wine
[08:04] <BiSK-8> my apt-get cant find anything
[08:04] <BiSK-8> no programs
[08:04] <BiSK-8> no nuttin
[08:04] <rikva> NightLord: yes, you have to be root to install
[08:05] <BiSK-8> i need help
[08:05] <BiSK-8> what should i do?
[08:05] <NightLord> BiSK-8 did you try apt-get update?
[08:05] <xiaogil> NightLord: how did you make it work ?
[08:05] <ndlovu> if I want to upgrade just one package, will apt-get upgrade <package> work
[08:05] <ndlovu> ?
[08:06] <evian> yeah I'd be interested in google earth too. I'll try it in crossover office v5 beta 2...
[08:06] <BiSK-8> Lettura della lista dei pacchetti in corso... Fatto <---- reading of the packages.... done
[08:06] <NightLord> http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?versionId=3254 for help xiaogil
[08:06] <BiSK-8> thats what happenes when i update
[08:06] <evian> NightLord: so you already got Google Earth working in wine, right?
[08:06] <NightLord> did you try apt-cache search to find your program
[08:06] <NightLord> I did on debian native
[08:06] <BiSK-8> i know what program i need
[08:06] <evian> ok thanks
[08:07] <NightLord> on the link, read the bit in green
[08:07] <NightLord> that helps
[08:07] <BiSK-8> u talkin 2 me?
[08:07] <NightLord> no, to evian
[08:07] <BiSK-8> oh
[08:07] <gerarcone> hello!
[08:07] <BiSK-8> so, what can i do?
[08:08] <NightLord> and when you try to apt-get it?
[08:08] <gerarcone> how can i read the windows partition from Ubuntu?
[08:08] <BiSK-8> nightlord, it says that it cant find it
[08:08] <NightLord> thats ironic, ask wilvafar
[08:08] <NightLord> he did it a bit ago :P
[08:08] <nalioth> ubotu: tell gerarcone about windowsdrives
[08:08] <BurgerMann> does openssh-server change the RSA key by it self??
[08:08] <NightLord> whats the program?
[08:08] <nalioth> BurgerMann: no
[08:08] <shadeofgrey> okay guys -- the restricted list thing through "tell <whoever> about restricted" leads to instructions that install libdvdcss2 -- which ISNT THE SAME as libdvdcss in breezy right??
[08:09] <gerarcone> nalioth: thanks!
[08:09] <shadeofgrey> because i installed libdvdcss2 and it crashed
[08:09] <BurgerMann> nalioth: suddenly I just couldn't connect to it
[08:09] <BiSK-8> nightlord, who must i ask?
[08:09] <shadeofgrey> this is frusstrating
[08:10] <NightLord> well, first, what exactly did you run?
[08:10] <BiSK-8> who?
[08:10] <BiSK-8> me?
[08:10] <BiSK-8> sau my name
[08:10] <FR500> when i install a package with force depends, it appears as broken in synaptic, anyway to override that?
[08:10] <BiSK-8> so i get highlite
[08:10] <NightLord> BiSK-8 what program are you trying to apt-get
[08:10] <BiSK-8> k3b
[08:10] <FR500> nalioth:openttd wont compile and the deb i have requires a newer libc something
[08:11] <FR500> nalioth: but it works just fine with forcing depends
[08:11] <BiSK-8> nightlord: k3b
[08:11] <NightLord> so does anyone know how to get xvidtune to save my settings, I've done it before, but i can't remember how
[08:11] <NightLord> odd
[08:11] <NightLord> do you have the debian repositories?
[08:12] <nalioth> FR500: open what?
[08:12] <WildSurge> avond Ycros
[08:12] <WildSurge> yvonne
[08:12] <FR500> open transport tycoon deluxe
[08:12] <shadeofgrey> if any body would take 2 minutes and help me...  id appreciate it...  im lost
[08:13] <gerarcone> nalioth: there is a way to hide windows partition instead?
[08:13] <WildSurge> lost where shadeofgrey :)
[08:13] <ndlovu> could upgrading libc to the breezy version on a hoary machine cause issues?
[08:13] <nalioth> gerarcone: dont mount them
[08:13] <nalioth> ndlovu: yes. you'll break your hoary
[08:14] <shadeofgrey> WildSurge:  im on breezy...  and i tried installing libdvdcss2 to get DVD playback in totem and that doessnt work.  what do i have to do to my sources.list file to get the GOOD libdvdcss for breezy??
[08:14] <shadeofgrey> because libdvdcss2 crashes the system
[08:14] <WildSurge> fraid that's too advanced for me shade
[08:14] <FR500> nalioth: that is the lib i need
[08:14] <ndlovu> nalioth: that serious?
[08:14] <nalioth> shadeofgrey: build the libdvdcss2 from source
[08:14] <nalioth> ndlovu: yes
[08:14] <shadeofgrey> nal:  you've got to be kiddding right?
[08:14] <nalioth> shadeofgrey: apt-get will do it for you
[08:14] <Pluk> you could try the one in /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples theres a script that downloads/installs libdvdcss2
[08:15] <nalioth> shadeofgrey: Pluk has an alternate suggestion
[08:15] <shadeofgrey> guys your not listening.  libdvdcss2 BREAKS BREEZY...
[08:15] <gerarcone> nalioth: i've used the script and it mount win partition every time
[08:15] <nalioth> Pluk: please preface your texts to those you mean it for
[08:15] <gerarcone> nalioth: can i undo this script?
[08:15] <BiSK-8> so can any1 help me?????
[08:15] <nalioth> gerarcone: the partition is mounted in /media, correct?
[08:15] <ndlovu> nalioth: I need to upgrade samba and that requires upgrading libc... so you're saying there's no way to upgrade samba without upgrading everything to breezy?
[08:16] <nalioth> ndlovu: if you upgrade your libc, you'll be breaking hoary
[08:16] <Pluk> if the conversation is about 1 thing i see no need to preface
[08:16] <shadeofgrey> theres a NEW one JUST called libdvdcss -- all i need is the informatiomn on where to get it!
[08:16] <runeh> Where do I request packages and such? Malone?
[08:16] <kemik> shadeofgrey:  universe possibly
[08:16] <ndlovu> nalioth: so instability, crashes, the end of the world as we know it?
[08:16] <shadeofgrey> kemik:  wouldnt happen to know the address would you?
[08:16] <evian> BiSK-8, what was your trouble? apt-get not finding stuff?
[08:17] <nalioth> ndlovu: yes
[08:17] <kemik> shadeofgrey:  it's in you rsources.list most likely.. you have to enable them
[08:17] <kemik> !repositories
[08:17] <BiSK-8> evian, yes
[08:17] <ubotu> repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy))
[08:17] <nalioth> ndlovu: and the mother-in-law coming for a visit
[08:17] <ryufreak> i need help[
[08:17] <ryufreak> this error when i start up ubuntu
[08:17] <nalioth> ryufreak: a question would be nice
[08:17] <evian> BiSK-8, maybe your repository server list got borked
[08:17] <puff> How do I see what apt source a given pacakge came from?
[08:17] <ryufreak> lol i'm getting there :D
[08:17] <ndlovu> nalioth: don't want that!
[08:17] <ryufreak> "Error activating XKB configuration.
[08:17] <ryufreak> It can happen under various circumstances:
[08:17] <ryufreak> - a bug in libxklavier library
[08:17] <ryufreak> - a bug in X server (xkbcomp, xmodmap utilities)
[08:17] <ryufreak> - X server with incompatible libxkbfile implementation
[08:17] <ryufreak> X server version data:
[08:17] <ryufreak> The X.Org Foundation
[08:18] <ryufreak> 60802000
[08:18] <ryufreak> If you report this situation as a bug, please include:
[08:18] <gerarcone> nalioth: yes
[08:18] <ryufreak> - The result of <b>xprop -root | grep XKB</b>
[08:18] <ryufreak> - The result of <b>gconftool-2 -R /desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/kbd</b>"
[08:18] <evian> BiSK-8, can you check it in synaptic to see the list?
[08:18] <WildSurge> how do i change the standard refresh rate in unbuntu
[08:18] <ndlovu> nalioth: so breezy it is then.
[08:18] <BiSK-8> evian, if u guide me through it yes
[08:18] <nalioth> ryufreak: dont paste in here
[08:18] <WildSurge> the one that the login screen uses
[08:18] <BiSK-8> evian, may i pm?
[08:18] <ryufreak> well, that's my problem...how do i fix it?
[08:18] <Buddha|> What's the root password for  the 5.10 preview?  (PPC)
[08:18] <evian> BiSK-8 sure
[08:18] <nalioth> ryufreak: pasting if very rude (and against channel rules)
[08:18] <puff> Hm, is launchpad.net the right place to file a bug on a package in ubuntu?
[08:19] <ryufreak> sorry, but now that it's out there
[08:19] <ryufreak> how do i fix it =/
[08:19] <puff> I could have sworn there was a bugzilla somewhere else.
[08:19] <nalioth> ryufreak: hoary or breezy?
[08:19] <ryufreak> hoary
[08:19] <nalioth> ryufreak: i have no clue
[08:19] <ryufreak> i finally got my x800xl to work, and now i get this message......
[08:20] <ryufreak> i get something t work, and something else messes up =/
[08:20] <nalioth> ryufreak: i'm not the only one in here
[08:20] <puff> Ah, bugzilla.ubuntu.com... but then why does ubuntu.com's "bugfixing" link take you to launchpad.net?
[08:20] <nalioth> ryufreak: paste your output to a pastebin so you can show folks
[08:21] <puff> Does bugzilla.ubuntu.com's search function search across all packages?
[08:21] <gerarcone> nalioth: uh?
[08:21] <puff> Er, all "products"
[08:22] <Bartimaeus> does anyonw know how to install deian files?
[08:22] <nalioth> gerarcone: the partition mounte in /media, correct?
[08:22] <havoc> dpkg -i blah.deb
[08:22] <gerarcone> nalioth: yes
[08:22] <Bartimaeus> havoc, thanks
[08:22] <nalioth> Bartimaeus: careful using debian debs
[08:22] <nalioth> gerarcone: so how are they "in the way"?
[08:22] <gerarcone> nalioth: do you want the path?
[08:23] <havoc> Bartimaeus: you should use apt to install an ubuntu package rather than a .deb, if one is available
[08:23] <nalioth> gerarcone: i helped write the script. it shouldn't mount where is it visible to you
[08:23] <WildSurge> how do i add modules to auto-load in ubuntu?
[08:23] <kemik> modprobe possibly
[08:23] <kemik> not sure
[08:24] <puff> Hm... looks like there's a bug report about ntop already, and it has the bugfix, too.
[08:24] <havoc> modules.conf
[08:24] <havoc> in /etc/
[08:24] <gerarcone> nalioth: i simple want to know how to undo the script effects
[08:24] <WildSurge> more speficially these:  modprobe snd-sbawe;modprobe snd-pcm-oss;modprobe snd-mixer-oss;modprobe snd-seq-oss
[08:24] <puff> Is there a way to have "aptitude install package" query for known bugs with a package and report them when it installs?
[08:24] <WildSurge> when i add them to /etc/modules.conf the system hangs during boot
[08:24] <WildSurge> i guess when trying to play the startup sound
[08:24] <havoc> WildSurge: /etc/modules
[08:24] <Bowel> I have my /boot as ext3 and / as jfs. When booting breezy kernel 2.6.12 I get 'JFS NO SUCH MODULE' -- but 2.6.10 works. Have jfs been purged?
[08:25] <xiaogil> is there an address for earth3d to put in sources.list ?
[08:25] <dmacdonald111> Hi all. I have managed to get ubuntu working. Before anyone gets excited, I had to revert back to wired network connection. I was wondering, I have been using putty before, but it doesn't seem to be in synaptic. Is there another name for it?
[08:25] <Answer> What is the program that actually synchronizes the clock with ntp servers?
[08:25] <Ninjew> Answer: ntpdate
[08:25] <Buddha|> What's the root password for the 5.10 preview?  (PPC)
[08:25] <havoc> Bowel: you may need an initrd to load the module, or build a kernel w/ the JFS module compiled in
[08:25] <Answer> dmacdonald11: putty is an ssh client, ssh is builtin to linux.  man ssh
[08:26] <WildSurge> havoc: when i add those modules to my startup, ubunti stops loading when the banner starts showing
[08:26] <jroes> Answer: it's a daemon - ntpd
[08:26] <dmacdonald111> ah. thank you.
[08:26] <Bowel> havoc, Yes I recompiled and cooked my own and it worked. But I like to use ubuntu's pre-compiled images.
[08:26] <gerarcone> nalioth: help me please :(
[08:26] <Answer> Ninjew, jroes: Do you know if ntpdate is available for other linux distros (ex. redhat, gentoo)
[08:27] <havoc> Bowel: it probably is build as a kernel module, so you need a ram disk (initrd) to load the module during boot
[08:27] <jroes> Answer: it is
[08:27] <havoc> WildSurge: sorry, don't know what to tell you :(
[08:27] <jroes> Answer: it's a pretty standard thing.  most distributions have it
[08:27] <WildSurge> tell me how to fix it :P
[08:27] <n00bster> i installed wine from synaptic PM, but don't know how to run it...
[08:27] <havoc> WildSurge: would if I could
[08:27] <WildSurge> i know bro
[08:28] <Answer> jroes: Does ntpd allow Time Zone selection?
[08:28] <havoc> WildSurge: you had asked how to load modules at boot, *that* I knew how to do ;)
[08:29] <WildSurge> thought i might b doing something wrong
[08:29] <jroes> here's your best bet:  http://www.ntp.org/     http://ntp.isc.org/bin/view/Support/SettingYourSystemTimeZone
[08:30] <inc|freaky> when ubuntu boots up, it always misses the ntp update because of a temporary dns failure which is probably caused because the pon script (pppoe dialin) gets executed after the ntp update is there any way i can put it so the connections gets established before the ntp update?
[08:30] <Answer> jroes: How do I give ntpdate the server?  It says no servers to use
[08:30] <Bowel> havoc, Hm, you're maybe right. Any idea how I can get that? I thought debian images were built by using initrd.
[08:31] <BiSK-8> guys, how do i save with vim?
[08:31] <havoc> Bowel: nope, no idea :(
[08:31] <Answer> BiSK-8: :wq
[08:31] <BiSK-8> :wq
[08:31] <BiSK-8> ???
[08:31] <WildSurge> what is /etc/modutils used for?
[08:31] <BiSK-8> and how
[08:31] <BiSK-8> just write it?
[08:32] <BiSK-8> answer, how do i activate :wq?
[08:32] <Answer> BiSK-8: In vim, you get to "COMMAND" mode by pressing escape atleast twice.  In command mode,  :q will quit,  :w will save,  :wq will save and quit
[08:32] <BiSK-8> ok
[08:32] <BiSK-8> thx
[08:33] <n00bster> hello - i'v installed wine from synaptic PM, but don't know how to run it...
[08:33] <Answer> BiSK-8:  You should look into the following more friendly editors:  Pico, Nano, Emacs, Nedit, Gedit
[08:33] <Billythekid> Hey, do you guys know how to install Limewire onto Ubuntu?
[08:33] <WildSurge> agh :(
[08:33] <BiSK-8> i like terminal thourh
[08:33] <BiSK-8> thx
[08:33] <HiddenWolf> Anyone here familiar with lirc?
[08:33] <WildSurge> why can i load these modules perfectly after i've booted
[08:33] <Answer> BiSK-8:  Nano, Pico and Emacs all run in terminal mode like VI.
[08:34] <WildSurge> but ubuntu hangs when i load it during boot
[08:34] <WildSurge>  modprobe snd-sbawe;modprobe snd-pcm-oss;modprobe snd-mixer-oss;modprobe snd-seq-oss
[08:34] <BiSK-8> ok
[08:34] <BiSK-8> thx
[08:34] <xiaogil> Can I install breezy, or shall i want until 13th of ocotber ?
[08:34] <xiaogil> s/want/wait
[08:34] <HiddenWolf> xiaogil, you can install, but you'll have a lot of updates each day.
[08:34] <Answer> WildSurge: modprobes can take a long time I think, which could hang the initial boot
[08:34] <WildSurge> Answer: it's not hanging during boot, it hangs in the login screen when it's loading the banner
[08:35] <eipa> hey. i'm a linux noobie.
[08:35] <WildSurge> basically when it's starting KDE
[08:35] <derFlo> hi
[08:35] <derFlo> is this a bad sign? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2645
[08:35] <xiaogil> HiddenWolf: ok, if it's the only inconvenient, it's not a problem
[08:35] <eipa> i wanna install opera, but i don't know what to do after downloading the package
[08:35] <WildSurge> i'm guessing the sound isn't working correctly or something, and it wants to play the bootsound
[08:35] <WildSurge> ?
[08:36] <Answer> WildSurge: I'm not brave enough to try kde yet...
[08:36] <WildSurge> eerr
[08:36] <Feles> hello all
[08:36] <WildSurge> sowwy, gnome
[08:36] <WildSurge> i am using stock ubuntu hoary
[08:36] <nalioth> derFlo: what are you wondering?
[08:36] <HiddenWolf> xiaogil, things *should* be stable
[08:36] <Billythekid> Hey, do you guys know how to install Limewire onto Ubuntu?
[08:36] <Feles> I fell asleep trying to fix my problem last night.... can anyone help me get my MBR cleaned up?
[08:37] <derFlo> nalioth: XFS recovery, dma timeout, status 0x20,...
[08:37] <derFlo> lost interrupt...
[08:37] <Answer> WildSurge: If you think what you said is the problem, go to System, Preferences, Sound, Sound Events, System Events,  Log In and disable startup3.wav
[08:37] <derFlo> if this is ok, I'll not wounder anymore
[08:37] <nalioth> derFlo: install "smartmontools" and run "smartctl"
[08:37] <atha> eipa: follow these instructions: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[08:37] <Feles> I installed Ubuntu, but somehow there's no sign of my Windows install
[08:37] <derFlo> ok
[08:38] <Answer> Feles: Are you positive that you did not erase your entire harddrive?
[08:38] <eipa> thanks atha
[08:39] <derFlo> eipa: doesn't opera have an extra ubuntu-package?
[08:39] <Feles> is there a way of checking it?
[08:39] <derFlo> and a manual
[08:39] <WildSurge> Answer: i'll try after first disabling the stupid modules again, then rebooting, then rebooting back again :(
[08:39] <keikoz> do somebody knows how to use cups under ubuntu ? root's login and passe doesnt work
[08:39] <brum> is there a way to skip over an fstab entry on boot if it is unavailable???
[08:39] <WildSurge> Why doesn't it just work(tm), i mean it's not like a soundblaster awe 32 is a very rare card!
[08:39] <daejavu> any PYTHONE programmer here ?
[08:40] <keikoz> neither my login wich is in the lpadmin group
[08:40] <Answer> WildSurge: Is it muted in alsamixer? heh
[08:41] <Feles> no... never mind there still is a Windows NTFS partition
[08:41] <Feles> But when I press Esc at the boot loader, it only shows me the ubuntu install
[08:41] <Answer> Feles: Do you have GRUB boot loader installed?  Just add the NTFS partition to Grub
[08:41] <Feles> how?
[08:42] <Answer> Feles:  see  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:43] <WildSurge> Answer: yes, but the modules are also just not loaded automatically
[08:43] <nalioth> not my day today
[08:43] <Feles> Answer: How would I find out the necessary information to put into the menu to make it an option?
[08:44] <daejavu> anyone knows  PYTHONE programing ?
[08:44] <Feles> (root, kernel, initrd, etc)
[08:44] <Answer> Feles, I'll msg you the end of my grub menu.lst
[08:44] <derFlo> where does "smartctl -t long /dev/hda" write it's output to?
[08:45] <Tuxist> is ubuntu developer here ?
[08:45] <kemik> daejavu:  python ? why not try a #python channel ?
[08:45] <nalioth> derFlo: the terminal
[08:45] <nalioth> Tuxist: ask your question
[08:45] <derFlo> oh
[08:46] <daejavu> kemik, umm know a channel ?
[08:46] <derFlo> he tells me to wait 20 minute and gives the term back
[08:46] <derFlo> i'll do a rtfm...
[08:46] <Tuxist> i have made new amarok packages 1.3.2 would have it
[08:46] <kemik> daejavu:  really.... you cant imagine what a channel would be named ??
[08:46] <puff> Hm, dangit, which package is swsusp part of?
[08:46] <kemik> daejavu:  ... try #python ?
[08:47] <Tuxist> the make with the orginal ubuntu source and i have added postgresql
[08:47] <puff> Hello?
[08:47] <daejavu> kemik, lolz .. sorry dude ... no channel like that .. ill look for it waisai
[08:47] <Tuxist> the 1.3.1 amd 64 packages crash
[08:47] <kemik> !hello
[08:47] <ubotu> kemik: I haven't a clue
[08:47] <kemik> daejavu:  im in #python right now
[08:48] <daejavu> kemik, my bad .. i didnt checked the spellin  :D
[08:49] <WildSurge> hmm
[08:49] <puff> kemik: ?
[08:49] <WildSurge> under multimedia the damn tst-pipelon crashes when playing on esdmon
[08:49] <WildSurge> i have to kill the multimedia prefs
[08:49] <puff> I'm trying to file a bug report on swsusp, but it wants a package name, and searching for swsusp in the package field doesn't seem to do much.
[08:50] <kemik> puff:  installing from source ?
[08:50] <puff> kemik: No, standard install.
[08:51] <kemik> !info swsusp
[08:51] <puff> kemik: Ah-hah... did a search for other swsusp bugs and use the package they used (file, acpi-power, linux).
[08:52] <puff> Er, acpi-support.  I guess acpi-support makes the most sense.
[08:52] <kemik> mmh
[08:52] <procrastinator> panic-like situation, here
[08:53] <kemik> procrastinate.. doit tomorrow
[08:53] <kemik> ;)
[08:53] <XHK> Omg why sounds wont work again :S XMMS works, gnome sounds work but gaim's sounds wont work :S
[08:53] <procrastinator> I can't login to X, since it can't write my authetication file
[08:53] <kemik> hard work pays off after time.. laziness always pays off _now_
[08:53] <WildSurge> something must b conflicting with my soundcard
[08:54] <procrastinator> kemik: This is no time for jokes, you know.
[08:54] <kemik> procrastinator:  check filepermissions on your file
[08:54] <kemik> procrastinator:  and make sure they're ok
[08:54] <WildSurge> why is it so hard to configure a simple soundcard in ubuntu :(
[08:54] <procrastinator> kemik: yeah, but before I logged out I had similar problems for a lot of other stuff
[08:55] <procrastinator> kemik: even though i had 777 on the files
[08:55] <XHK> Why sounds wont work? :S XMMS works, gnome sounds work but gaim's sounds wont work :S
[08:55] <procrastinator> kemik: It started with OOo not wanting to save my files
[08:56] <n00bster> hello - i just  installed wine from synaptic PM, but don't know how to run it...   plz hlp
[08:56] <procrastinator> and at a point, something wouldn't start because it claimed there were no more free space on /tmp
[08:56] <Tuxist> no wine packages for amd 64 ?
[08:57] <Tuxist> where can get them
[08:57] <procrastinator> and know I'm _sure_ that I have lots of space on both my / and my /home
[08:57] <XHK> Why sounds wont work? :S XMMS works, gnome sounds work but gaim's sounds wont work :S
[09:00] <procrastinator> plenty of helpers this evening
[09:00] <B_166-ER-X> why is my bittornado not showing anywhere ? but IS installed..
[09:00] <procrastinator> rebooting.
[09:00] <n00bster> ?
[09:00] <n00bster> enyone
[09:01] <Leonik> is there anyway to view my windows files on the other partition?
[09:01] <Leonik> in ubuntu
[09:01] <mexicaan> i what folder should i run alsaconf ? :S
[09:01] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Leonik about windowsdrives
[09:01] <WildSurge> i dun think alsaconf is even installed mexicaan?
[09:01] <insites> wow fast breezy mirror
[09:02] <mexicaan> hmm alsa is installed i cant select it as multimedia system :S
[09:02] <insites> will the preview easily upgrade t the finished breezy using apt?
[09:02] <Feles> still not having any luck with booting my windows partition, can someone point out something I might have done wrong?
[09:02] <WildSurge> i am having similar problems mexicaan
[09:02] <transgre1s> insites: it does that already
[09:02] <nalioth> insites: yes
[09:03] <Anak1n> can someone help me amarok is playing but I can't hear anything xmms work fine
[09:03] <insites> nalioth, transgress just making sure... i was going to hold of fif not.
[09:03] <Em`Zee> How possible is it for the Breezy upgrade to break my data? =P
[09:03] <nalioth> insites: ubuntu uses apt-get. it is designed to keep your system up to date easily
[09:04] <Leonik> nailoth what?
[09:04] <insites> nalioth, im familiar i used in in fc1 and 2 befre yum came along
[09:04] <clinfix> is there a summary document about ubuntu?
[09:04] <DPadclear> In the breezy preview, why can't I remove the package "xserver-xorg-driver-s3virge"?
[09:05] <kemik> procrastinator:  have you been root on your system often ?
[09:05] <B_166-ER-X> why is my bittornado not showing anywhere ? but IS installed..
[09:05] <insites> B_166-ER-X, refreched your panel?
[09:05] <procrastinator> kemik: yes
[09:05] <Anak1n> type in terminal locate bittornado
[09:05] <insites> CLI: killall gnome-panel
[09:05] <B_166-ER-X> insites better than this ; rebooted
[09:05] <transgress> B_166-ER-X: btdownloadcurses and btdownloadgui are the commands for it.
[09:05] <procrastinator> and now I'm logged in
[09:05] <Anak1n> then create launcher
[09:05] <Feles> I edited my GRUB menu, and when it tried to boot Windows, it said it was requesting the wrong place
[09:05] <kemik> procrastinator:  that's probably why your system is fubar'ed
[09:06] <insites> B_166-ER-X, azureus :)
[09:06] <kemik> procrastinator:  there's a *reason* why you should not be root
[09:06] <procrastinator> kemik: well, it seems it was lack of space on /
[09:06] <insites> solved all my bt issues :)
[09:06] <eipa> how do i choose to download the static version of opera?
[09:06] <kemik> procrastinator:  ok
[09:06] <procrastinator> kemik: and then a reboot
[09:06] <B_166-ER-X> i have a shortcut to it in my panel, added it manually... but its not showing in the like 'open with' when i click on 'download a torrent'
[09:07] <insites> can i share a home direcotry between fc4 and breezy? or do i need to make seperate ones?
[09:07] <procrastinator> kemik: Well, of course I don't log in as root
[09:07] <derFlo> c
[09:07] <derFlo> cu
[09:07] <derFlo> thank you all
[09:07] <insites> essentially my home is a unique partition right now...
[09:07] <procrastinator> insites: It works for me.
[09:07] <B_166-ER-X> azureus is not in the universe sources
[09:07] <Anak1n> can someone help me amarok is playing but I can't hear anything xmms work fine
[09:07] <nalioth> insites: if its on a seperate partition, it SHOULD work
[09:07] <insites> nalioth, great... worth a try. :)
[09:08] <insites> thanks
[09:08] <nalioth> insites: i'm not sure if fc and ubuntu specific things might conflict
[09:08] <Leonik> how can i view my windows partitions in linux>?
[09:08] <procrastinator> Insites: They just can't really share a ~/.gnome2, so you'll have to do something fancy there
[09:08] <Leonik> nmnmnm
[09:08] <Leonik> nalioth i just saw the window
[09:08] <insites> procrastinator, hrm...
[09:09] <nalioth> Leonik: did you read what ubotu sent you?
[09:09] <procrastinator> insites: like creating two different users for each system, and then symlink all foolders from one to the other
[09:09] <procrastinator> insites: Or figure out something smarter...
[09:09] <Feles> would a install on partition 5 be on hd0,4 ?
[09:09] <Leonik> nalioth i havnet yet im just wondering aobut doing a complete switch to linux
[09:10] <Leonik> so that would make the windows parition mountable?
[09:10] <recluxus> hi all
[09:10] <recluxus> is there a minimal CD for netinstall
[09:10] <recluxus> i dont want to download the whole 600 MB
[09:11] <kennethlove> recluxus: i'm guessing you don't already have ubuntu or a debian-like distro installed?
[09:11] <crimsun> recluxus, there are a number of smaller boot images, but you'll still have to retrieve base+desktop from the 'net
[09:11] <recluxus> i'm using debian for 4 years
[09:12] <kennethlove> recluxus: you can switch from debian to ubuntu w/o downloading a CD. you just change your repos.
[09:12] <recluxus> but the i got nothing installed right now on PC
[09:12] <kennethlove> ah
[09:12] <nalioth> kennethlove: it's not that easy
[09:12] <XHK> Why sounds wont work? :S XMMS works, gnome sounds work but gaim's sounds wont work :S
[09:12] <kennethlove> nalioth: according to the wiki it is. :)
[09:12] <barosl> what program support 7zip on linux?
[09:12] <recluxus> i got sarge businesscard
[09:12] <mae_> kennethlove, not exactly..
[09:12] <recluxus> and a ubuntu 4.10 i guess
[09:12] <mae_> the upgrade would not be smooth
[09:12] <kennethlove> mae_: someone needs to update the wiki, then.
[09:12] <recluxus> but i dont want the old one to install itself
[09:12] <mae_> much easier to do a fresh install
[09:12] <mae_> off c
[09:13] <mae_> kennethlove, i didn't write the article :)
[09:13] <recluxus> because then i must update the distro
[09:13] <FR500> XHK:  what option is selected in the GAIM sound preferences?
[09:13] <insites> XHK, using alsa in gaim?
[09:13] <XHK> w8
[09:13] <kennethlove> mae_: i didn't think you did. :) but it's a wiki and anyone can edit...
[09:13] <Feles> .......?
[09:13] <kennethlove> i don't know enough to change it to be correct or i would
[09:13] <mae_> kennethlove, actually i did write it
[09:14] <XHK> insites, FR500: Sound method?
[09:14] <XHK> insites, FR500: Right now its Automatic.
[09:14] <recluxus> ok then, any advices for a netinstall
[09:14] <esj> looking for help bringing ubuntu up on an intel D945Gnt mg
[09:14] <insites> mirror spped dropped. :(
[09:14] <FR500> XHK: try Alsa, or ESD
[09:14] <esj> all seems to work except X11 and network
[09:15] <insites> any BT of breezy?
[09:15] <XHK> FR500: ok, there isnt alsa, but ill try esd then
[09:15] <FR500> XHK there is a howto in the wiki for fixing sound
[09:15] <othernoob> any advantages of a usb keyboard over a ps2 kb?
[09:15] <XHK> FR500: Still not working with esd
[09:16] <recluxus> is there another channel where people answer quos ??
[09:16] <snow_> insted of downloadin/and the installing java re. can i use apt-get to do the complete process?
[09:16] <miffe> anyone know how to get esmtp to send  emails through gmail?
[09:16] <XHK> FR500: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary that?
[09:17] <kennethlove> recluxus: that won't get you any help
[09:17] <recluxus> kennethlove, i suppose
[09:17] <MikeStyle> Hi, here is a screenshot of my current desktop (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/mikemikemike/screenshot2.png) and im trying to get the translucency settings on my taskbar to look like this (http://homepages.comnet.co.nz/~matt-sarah/technobabble/screenie2.png) ... can anyone be of assisstance?
[09:17] <recluxus> kennethlove, nor the web helps
[09:17] <FR500> XHK: yes i think thats it
[09:17] <pepsi> MikeStyle, thats a big fat 404 buddy
[09:17] <Anak1n> pricha li ko srpski ovde?
[09:17] <MikeStyle> pepsi, what are you talking about
[09:18] <XHK> FR500: I've tried it...
[09:18] <pepsi> MikeStyle, i have no clue
[09:18] <MikeStyle> ohh
[09:18] <MikeStyle> ok
[09:18] <MikeStyle> dang :(
[09:18] <kennethlove> recluxus: i know someone mentioned some smaller install downloads, but you'll still have to download ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop afterward.
[09:18] <XHK> FR500: But do i have to add or replace those things what it says?
[09:18] <FR500> XHK: well on my laptop in hoary everything went on smoothly
[09:19] <recluxus> kennethlove, thanks i think I'll try the sarge minimal then change the distro to ubuntu
[09:19] <XHK> FR500: =/
[09:19] <FR500> XHK: but on warty i had to install alsa
[09:19] <kennethlove> recluxus: good luck
[09:19] <recluxus> kennethlove, thanks all
[09:19] <bettong_BOFH> is there a linux keyboard?
[09:19] <XHK> FR500: Can u tell me whats written in ur /etc/esound/esd.conf ?
[09:19] <crimsun> FR500, "install ALSA"? ALSA has been the default in Ubuntu since the first release...
[09:19] <bettong_BOFH> you know something with tux instaed of the windows logo
[09:19] <FR500> crimsun: i meant confiure
[09:20] <WildSurge> can anyone tell me how to change the default refresh rate of the startup screen?
[09:20] <mae_> bettong_BOFH, that would be freakin sweet :)
[09:20] <kennethlove> bettong_BOFH: .... you won't use that key in linux.
[09:20] <XHK> FR500: Can u tell me whats written in ur /etc/esound/esd.conf ?
[09:20] <esj> any help with intel 945 mg problems?
[09:20] <bettong_BOFH> i know
[09:20] <MikeStyle> oh and im running a dell inspiron 5100 laptop. linux picks up that its a laptop and monitors the batery/temp. but as far as i can see there is no way to put my computer in "suspend mode". and it takes a long time to boot up every time. is there a feature to let me "suspend" my laptop?
[09:20] <kennethlove> bettong_BOFH, mae_ : scrape and paint. :)
[09:20] <mae_> kennethlove, thats not true, my right windows key is bound to opening a terminal
[09:20] <bettong_BOFH> yea thats what i'm gonna have to do >.<
[09:20] <WildSurge> welp, now my sound at least works when i boot
[09:20] <Feles> well, that was interesting
[09:20] <WildSurge> system still hangs after that tho :(
[09:21] <kennethlove> mae_: by default, then. :)
[09:21] <Feles> I can't figure out why I can't get my Windows Partition to boot
[09:21] <bettong_BOFH> http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/linuxunix/0,39020390,39164303,00.htm
[09:21] <bettong_BOFH> found one
[09:21] <WildSurge> where should i look when ubuntu just plain hangs hard?
[09:21] <snow_> insted of downloadin/and the installing java re. can i use apt-get to do the complete process? anyone?
[09:21] <bettong_BOFH> it even looks sweet ^_^
[09:21] <WildSurge> while starting gnome
[09:21] <miffe> snow_,
[09:22] <Feles> I set it in the GRUB menu, but it doesn't want to boot from that partition: says the device doesn't exist or some such error
[09:22] <mae_> you know, i'm thinking i just might uninstall xserver-xorg-driver-* seeing as how i use the proprietary nvidia one
[09:22] <MikeStyle> snow_ if u want java to be in ur synaptic u gotta add a few repositories...i did and mine showed up so i installed it
[09:22] <miffe> snow_, there is a j2re1.4 in breezy
[09:22] <s_wart> Feles: exactly what is the error message?
[09:22] <MikeStyle> can anyone help with either of my problems?
[09:22] <mae_> man, how long till they make xorg smart enough to figure out by itself what driver to use :)
[09:23] <WildSurge> agh!
[09:23] <Feles> I can't remember it at the moment... it's very generic
[09:23] <WildSurge> why does my machine hang when sound works?!
[09:23] <Leonik> if i install ubuntu hoary and just update to breezy following ubuntuguide.org... is that the same thing as installing breezy clean?
[09:23] <Feles> (sidenote, if I wanted to install XMMS, how would I do that?)
[09:23] <snow_> what is breezy?
[09:23] <WildSurge> gnome just plain stops loading when the banner pops up
[09:23] <FR500> Feles: sudo apt-get instal xmms
[09:23] <mae_> snow_, its breezy in here
[09:23] <Anak1n> why logoff hang?
[09:24] <WildSurge> there's nothing in var/log/messages either
[09:24] <Feles> thank you FR500
[09:24] <zAo^> where is gam_serve for?
[09:24] <s_wart> Feles: the devices follow a strict naming convention, but it depends on how you've partitioned your disk
[09:25] <Leonik> how would i want to partition my drive to save my c:?
[09:25] <mae_> will apt ever reach version 1.0?
[09:25] <Feles> well, the windows partition is supposed to be on partition 5 according to the Disk Manager in Ubuntu
[09:26] <Leonik> so it should walk me through it during the setup?
[09:26] <puff> Dang, MikeStyle was a bit impatient.
[09:26] <s_wart> Leonik: make sure you back up any data you care about. that's step 0
[09:26] <Leonik> damn i was afraid youd say that
[09:27] <Anak1n> U do not need to backup
[09:27] <[LethAL] > How can I share a printer?
[09:27] <s_wart> Anak1n: why do you say that?
[09:27] <WildSurge> hrms
[09:27] <Anak1n> because
[09:27] <Anak1n> i install
[09:27] <Anak1n> ubuntu
[09:28] <WildSurge> it seems esd is what causes the machine to hang
[09:28] <Anak1n> and i didn't backup anything
[09:28] <Anak1n> and evrything is working fine
[09:28] <Anak1n> i do not have win
[09:28] <s_wart> that makes it easier :)
[09:28] <Anak1n> but i have some ntfs partitions
[09:28] <FR500> Feles: try this, reboot, and press b, then write the boot sequence as it is (like rootnoverify....... and the clainloader +1 line and boot) just keep changing the partition number until it boots
[09:28] <Leonik> and you could keep them easily?
[09:28] <Anak1n> yes
[09:28] <Leonik> i have my entire drive formatted in ntfs and under c:
[09:28] <Anak1n> but
[09:29] <Leonik> i have 100 gigs free of the 150
[09:29] <Anak1n> ther is a problem
[09:29] <Leonik> so can i partition that part?
[09:29] <Anak1n> which part
[09:29] <Anak1n> ?
[09:29] <Leonik> the free part
[09:29] <Anak1n> yes
[09:29] <Leonik> even tho its part of my windows partition?
[09:29] <Leonik> that wont wreck it will it?
[09:29] <FR500> Leonik: yes you need a program to resize the partition
[09:29] <Anak1n> just tell ubuntu to use
[09:29] <Anak1n> free space
[09:29] <din> Leonik: partition magic
[09:29] <Anak1n> but
[09:29] <Anak1n> U should backup U r data
[09:29] <brion> sigh... i keep creating new folders when i try to open a terminal ;)
[09:29] <Anak1n> if u r a beginer
[09:29] <nalioth> FR500: not so
[09:30] <WildSurge> anyone have any experience with getting alsa to work?
[09:30] <nalioth> FR500: parted or ntfsresize will do it
[09:30] <Anak1n> no p.m.
[09:30] <Buddha|> Is there an Ubuntu-PPC channel?
[09:30] <Anak1n> no no no p.m.
[09:30] <Anak1n> never
[09:30] <Leonik> what do i type in terminal to see how much free space i have?
[09:30] <psycose> hi
[09:30] <ompaul> WildSurge, what kind of sound card is it?
[09:30] <WildSurge> sndblaster awe 32
[09:31] <WildSurge> it *is* working, but somehow esd hangs during boot
[09:31] <psycose> well i'm trying to help someone remotly, running Ubuntu Warty and running out of space ....
[09:31] <ompaul> WildSurge, type alsamixer in a terminal see if anything is muted
[09:31] <WildSurge> so i'd prefer to use alsa
[09:31] <FR500> nalioth: but pmagic is far easier
[09:31] <s_wart> if you're resizing partitions you should backup. there is a very good chance things will take a turn for the worse
[09:31] <nalioth> FR500: and costly
[09:31] <WildSurge> ompaul when i go to preferences multimedia and i select alsa
[09:31] <Anak1n> pmagic is risk
[09:31] <WildSurge> it says it cannot build the pipeline or something
[09:31] <ompaul> WildSurge, no
[09:31] <Anak1n> i lose my data using p.m.
[09:31] <psycose> if some have tips about where could i search for making space thanks..
[09:31] <ompaul> WildSurge, start a terminal
[09:31] <FR500> hmmm
[09:32] <FR500> well thats true
[09:32] <Anak1n> :)
[09:32] <WildSurge> hang on ompaul, system is booting now
[09:32] <WildSurge> and she's an old beast
[09:32] <Feles> wait, FR500 I've been doing that
[09:33] <Feles> brb, I'll try again
[09:33] <FR500> Feles: didnt work?
[09:33] <Feles> so far, no
[09:33] <FR500> Feles: you gotta write the 3 lines every time
[09:33] <frank23> is there anyway to "restart xv" (the video output) right now the video is just a blue screen and I don't want to restart X
[09:33] <Leonik> whats the terminal command to see how mcuh free space is left?
[09:33] <inc|freaky> my ntpupdate always is missed because of a temporary dns failure ... its because my pppoe gets started after the ntp update i guess is there any way to put the dialup stuff before the ntp update?
[09:33] <stpere> Leonik, df
[09:33] <frank23> Leonik: df
[09:34] <ompaul> is ssh installed by default?
[09:34] <FR500> (rootnoverify (hd0,0), chainloader +1; boot)
[09:34] <WildSurge> ehhh
[09:34] <Buddha|> Could someone help me with Ubuntu PPC?
[09:34] <frank23> ompaul: I don't think so
[09:34] <ompaul> WildSurge, have you dont that?
[09:34] <Leonik> thank you thank you!
[09:34] <ompaul> frank23, thanks
[09:34] <WildSurge> so how come when i've chosen alsa as the default soundinput it still starts esd on boot!?
[09:34] <WildSurge> i have not ompaul
[09:34] <ompaul> frank23, that explains the holes on my scalp :)
[09:34] <WildSurge> err not=now
[09:34] <ompaul> WildSurge, tell me when you have :)
[09:35] <Feles> FR500 can I message you with what my menu.lst file looks like for GRUB?
[09:35] <WildSurge> i have
[09:35] <WildSurge> if u wanna take it private that's cool too
[09:35] <MikeStyle> hey guys, need some more help. i found a mac emulator called Mac-On-Linux (MOL) and its having some errors once i try to compile it from its source....im running kubuntu, how would i run a .rpm?
[09:35] <FR500> Feles: well i don't really use windows, thats all i can recall, all u need most the time is that 3 lines
[09:35] <Hendric> does ubuntu support AC97???? i can;t hear sound on my pc...
[09:35] <Feles> hrm, ok
[09:35] <Hendric> but on my newer pc.. it got sound
[09:36] <FR500> MikeStyle: you can alien it so it becomes a deb, but doesnt work all the time
[09:36] <ompaul> WildSurge, address the person you are talking to in the channel :) makes it easy to follow a conversation, if there is no name at the start then it is more or less safe to assume that the person is talking to the channel
[09:36] <WildSurge> ompaul: k, now what? :)
[09:36] <MikeStyle> Alien?
[09:37] <Feles> the one thing that irks me is that in Ubuntu Disk Manager, it says the "Access Path" for the Win Partition is none.
[09:37] <ompaul> WildSurge, in the terminal start >alsamixer< with that command, then check it out using the arrow cursor keys to see if anything is muted
[09:37] <FR500> MikeStyle: yes, sudo alien pagkagename.rpm i think
[09:37] <Feles> Is that right?
[09:37] <MikeStyle> and alien is native in ubuntu
[09:37] <MikeStyle> ?
[09:37] <ompaul> MikeStyle, well it would be better to find the package on ubuntu
[09:37] <WildSurge> ompaul: alsamixer won't start
[09:37] <Hendric> in hoary but not in breezy i think
[09:37] <mae_> Feles, you can mount the windows partition anywhere you like
[09:38] <FR500> MikeStyle: not sure, but in any case you can apt-get it
[09:38] <WildSurge> hrms
[09:38] <WildSurge> now it does, wierd
[09:39] <ompaul> WildSurge,  always wait a moment - until the prompt comes back if you want to suggest that something does not start
[09:39] <WildSurge> ompaul: well i started it with an &, guess it didn't want that
[09:39] <ompaul> WildSurge,  heh
[09:39] <Feles> mae_ is there a way I can do that?
[09:39] <Hendric> how can i trouble shoot my sound device????
[09:39] <Hendric> it doesn't give any sound...
[09:39] <WildSurge> ompaul: okay, some things were muted like synth, but i put everything in the green, now what?
[09:39] <Hendric> unlike on my newer PC
[09:40] <ompaul> WildSurge, type updatedb in the terminal and let me know when it is done
[09:41] <Anak1n> can i ask something?
[09:41] <WildSurge> ompaul: i did that 2 hours or so ago already
[09:41] <ompaul> WildSurge, cool
[09:42] <WildSurge> ompaul: locate... what? :)
[09:42] <Feles> brb again
[09:42] <ompaul> WildSurge, sorry I was trying to find something - I was sshed into a server - doh! - now :)
[09:43] <ompaul> WildSurge, locate .wav
[09:43] <WildSurge> ompaul: k, lotsa sounds
[09:43] <ompaul> WildSurge, pick one and and try it with your media player
[09:43] <cyphase> how many people have come ni with firefox problems lately?
[09:44] <WildSurge> it won't work, but k
[09:44] <cyphase> like withing the last day
[09:44] <cyphase> within*
[09:44] <ompaul> cyphase, have you backports enabled?
[09:44] <ramblingturtle> hello,
[09:44] <cyphase> ompaul, i fixed my problem :)
[09:44] <WildSurge> ompaul: totem won't even start :(
[09:44] <cyphase> i'm just asking because everyone is referred to my blog to fix it..
[09:44] <ompaul> cyphase, over the last week lots
[09:45] <cyphase> and i'm going to be offline for about 6 days
[09:45] <cyphase> since i'm moving
[09:45] <ompaul> cyphase, well put it up on the wiki
[09:45] <ompaul> then have the bot point to it
[09:45] <WildSurge> ompaul: alsa device default is already in use by another program claims my musicplayer
[09:45] <cyphase> could you do it? i really don't have the time at the moment
[09:45] <cyphase> lol
[09:46] <ramblingturtle> i was wondering i upgraded to breezy and had some problems with xorg because of the nvidia-glx that i had installed so i was wondering if there is a issue or something because I have not found anything about it online at this point
[09:46] <ompaul> cyphase, give me the url :-)
[09:46] <cyphase> http;//cyphase.homelinux.com/
[09:47] <ompaul> Seveas, what to do that?
[09:47] <BiSK-8> hello
[09:47] <cyphase> oops
[09:47] <Kyral> hmm, this is odd
[09:47] <ompaul> Seveas, want to do that? :)
[09:47] <Kyral> BMP spawns two instances of itself
[09:47] <cyphase> http://cyphase.homelinux.com/
[09:47] <Anak1n> yo
[09:47] <Anak1n> anyone
[09:47] <Leonik> do could i use partition magic right now in windows and create a new partition out of the free space on my hard drive?
[09:47] <Anak1n> help with amarok please
[09:47] <WildSurge> now what? :(
[09:47] <Kyral> err, two processes
[09:47] <Leonik> and then just select that for my ubuntu install?
[09:47] <BiSK-8> i installed brezy, but i have a problem, there is no root terminal, ho do i become root, and why dosent "su" work?
[09:47] <cyphase> BiSK-8, sudo
[09:47] <BiSK-8> sudo?
[09:48] <WildSurge> BiSK-8 try sudo -s, or sudo passwd
[09:48] <ramblingturtle> leonik: yes you can just make sure it is a linux format
[09:48] <Kyral> !tell BiSK-8 about RootSudo
[09:48] <ompaul> WildSurge, >> ps auwx | less <<show you anything with sound working it ?
[09:48] <ramblingturtle> leonik: there needs to be one partition for root then one for your home directory
[09:48] <BiSK-8> so if i type sudo mypass, ill become root?
[09:48] <Kyral> only for that command
[09:48] <Feles> well, that's not workin
[09:48] <WildSurge> no
[09:49] <ramblingturtle> BiSK-8 sudo then your user pswrd
[09:49] <WildSurge> oh wait
[09:49] <Feles> here's the error message... "Invalid Device Requested"
[09:49] <cyphase> whoever puts it up, can you give me the link?
[09:49] <Feles> when I try to boot the windows partition
[09:49] <poningru> question how do I create torrent files?
[09:49] <Kyral> He asked if sudo gives him a Root Shell
[09:49] <WildSurge> ompaul: for instance /usr/bin/esd --nobeeps
[09:50] <ramblingturtle> sudo su will give a root shell ?
[09:50] <WildSurge> and alsamixer
[09:50] <BiSK-8> if i type sudo i get a sort of list of all the possibile sudo commands
[09:50] <nalioth> poningru: in a terminal "btmaketorrentgui.py"
[09:50] <shawarma> Am I the only one having problems with usplash since a couple of days ago? ("problems" == it never shows up)
[09:50] <BiSK-8> i need 2 become root
[09:50] <snow_> can you install BitchX with apt-get?
[09:50] <ramblingturtle> BiSK-8 in a terminal type sudo su
[09:50] <nalioth> snow_: yes
[09:51] <shawarma> snow_: Sure.
[09:51] <Belutz> snow_, yes you can
[09:51] <ompaul> WildSurge, killall esd
[09:51] <Kyral> You don't NEED to become root
[09:51] <snow_> E: Couldn't find package bitchx
[09:51] <Kyral> you just have to preface all your commands with sudo :P
[09:51] <BiSK-8> oh
[09:51] <BiSK-8> ok
[09:51] <BiSK-8> i got it
[09:51] <ompaul> BiSK-8, read wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[09:51] <BiSK-8> thx man
[09:51] <Belutz> snow_, i think it's BitchX not bitchx
[09:51] <BiSK-8> i did
[09:51] <hoderaz|dodo> hi
[09:51] <WildSurge> ompaul: did that already, also killed alsamixer
[09:52] <Kyral> the best part is that sudo sets a timestamp
[09:52] <ompaul> WildSurge, now try to play wav
[09:52] <Kyral> so for like 15 minutes you don't have to reenter your password
[09:52] <snow_> snow@balance:~/Desktop$ sudo apt-get install BitchX
[09:52] <snow_> Reading package lists... Done
[09:52] <snow_> Building dependency tree... Done
[09:52] <snow_> E: Couldn't find package BitchX
[09:52] <WildSurge> ompaul: but that doesn't seem to b wanna killed (alsamixer)
[09:52] <Feles> heh, everyone that's helped me so far has left the channel...
[09:52] <ompaul> WildSurge, ignore the mixer
[09:52] <hoderaz|dodo> just a question : when ubuntu 5.10 will be out ?
[09:52] <tag> How would I start Xnest with ion in it?
[09:52] <ompaul> WildSurge, just try the player
[09:52] <deFrysk> snow_, leave the caps
[09:52] <B_166-ER-X> whats a good bittorrent client for ubuntu ?
[09:53] <ramblingturtle> so anybody else have problems with nvidia-glx when upgrading to Colony 5
[09:53] <insites> hoderaz|dodo, oct
[09:53] <insites> B_166-ER-X, azureus
[09:53] <mellon> it comes with one installed.
[09:53] <snow_> defrysk, i've tried bitchx aswell
[09:53] <hoderaz|dodo> insites : is it the 13 ?
[09:53] <Kyral> ramblingturtle, you need to download and install the NVidia package manually
[09:53] <ompaul> WildSurge, I am going to type up the firefox thing before it gets lost
[09:53] <prometoys> snow_ it is in universe
[09:53] <snow_> i just done update and upgrade
[09:53] <B_166-ER-X> insites : i tried to install it, but it saying OOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /usr/java/  hierarchy
[09:53] <deFrysk> !info bitchx
[09:53] <ubotu> bitchx: (Advanced Internet Relay Chat client), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1:1.0-0c19.20030512-2 (hoary), Packaged size: 1352 kB, Installed size: 6232 kB
[09:53] <Kyral> then use BitTornado
[09:53] <ompaul> WildSurge, back in a couple of mins
[09:53] <B_166-ER-X> and i looked for the missing package and cannot find it
[09:53] <deFrysk> snow_, its in universe
[09:53] <snow_> that means?
[09:54] <insites> B_166-ER-X,  you installed jre 1.5?
[09:54] <Belutz> snow_, you must enable the universe repos first
[09:54] <B_166-ER-X> tornado doesnt show up where he is supposed to be
[09:54] <WildSurge> ompaul: k, well sound sorta works now, but i have a sneaky suspicion it started esd to make it work
[09:54] <snow_> ohh, someone please tell me=)
[09:54] <B_166-ER-X> i didnt find any JRE package
[09:54] <Kyral> bittornado-gui
[09:54] <Kensey> I get a kernel panic trying to boot the new kernel I just compiled
[09:54] <Kyral> or something like that
[09:54] <deFrysk> !tell snow_ about repositories
[09:54] <Kyral> and the JRE isn't in the Repos anymore
[09:54] <ramblingturtle> Kyral, will it mess up anything because i just got x working again but my graphics are really bad without the nvidia-glx
[09:54] <deFrysk> snow_, read ubotu's message
[09:54] <InitMass> which is the best way to upgrade to breezy? is it to change everything from hoary to breezy in /etc/apt/sources.list, and then make an apt-get dist-ugrade?
[09:55] <Kensey> "Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)"
[09:55] <poningru> nalioth: thanks man
[09:55] <Kyral> ramblingturtle, just go to NVidia.com, download the driver (7667, NOT 7676)
[09:55] <insites> B_166-ER-X, http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre
[09:55] <jpfarias> hi
[09:55] <deFrysk> insites, no no no
[09:55] <Kyral> insites, that won't work anymore
[09:55] <insites> sorry then.
[09:55] <B_166-ER-X> Kyral , i have a shortcut for the bittornado gui, but i want it to be accessible in the download menu of firefox like 'open with'
[09:55] <jpfarias> hey guys
[09:55] <deFrysk> !ubuntuguide
[09:55] <ubotu> rumour has it, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[09:56] <jpfarias> is there a way to say ssh to not ask my password?
[09:56] <Kyral> B_166-ER-X, try pointing firefox to the bin file
[09:56] <B_166-ER-X> ubuntuguide IS out ofdate
[09:56] <prometoys> does somebody use breezy on ibookG4? i have problems with suspend to ram?
[09:56] <ryufreak> !w32codecs
[09:56] <ubotu> [w32codecs]  a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy). 64-bit? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[09:56] <jpfarias> like storing it in a file or something else...
[09:56] <Feles> Anyone have any clue how to fix my booting into windows problem?
[09:57] <B_166-ER-X> why did they removed jre ??
[09:57] <Feles> When I set the partition in GRUB and try to boot, it says: "Invalid device requested"
[09:57] <ramblingturtle> Kyral, thanks I will give it a try and one other quick question i am unable to boot to kernel 2.6.12 after upgrading but everything else is working fine is there a way to get the new kernel to boot
[09:57] <holycow> hellow fellow ubuntuleers
[09:57] <holycow> -_-
[09:58] <reiki_work> I have a strong suspicion that I'm about to ask a dumb question... but what is Colony 5?  When I go to that link the downloads look like Breezy install and live CD images. I'm confused. I thought Colony 5 was a game. :)
[09:58] <Kyral> ramblingturtle, drop to a VT, type "CC=gcc-3.4 && export CC" then "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" then "sudo sh <NVidia Package Name>" and finally "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and MAKE SURE to pick the NVidia module, not nv, and also to load every module exept DRI
[09:58] <Kyral> then just startx
[09:58] <BiSK-8> there
[09:58] <BiSK-8> that worked
[09:58] <BiSK-8> im chattin' from breezy
[09:58] <Ninjew> Does anybody know an app in linux that can convert mp3s tagged with apev3 to id3v2?
[09:59] <Kyral> B_166-ER-X, I have no clue why the JRE was removed
[09:59] <insites> Ninjew, i think it is call eastTag
[09:59] <insites> easyTag
[09:59] <holycow> colony 5 is the codename for the latest release candidate/beta if y ou will
[09:59] <insites> but not sure.
[09:59] <Leonik> if i use partition magic to make the linux ones will that be sufficient for ubuntu?
[09:59] <ryufreak> whats the command to install stuff?
[09:59] <insites> ryufreak, apt-get
[09:59] <Feles> ryufreak: apt-get
[09:59] <Kyral> !tell ryufreak about apt
[09:59] <Kensey> is it safe to use the Ubuntu 2.6.10-5-386 initrd with a kernel custom-compiled from kernel-sources and kernel-patches?
[09:59] <Ninjew> insites: easytag can't read apev3 tags on mp3s, only on .mpc files or whatever
[10:00] <mellon> you can get colony 5 from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/breezy/
[10:00] <insites> Ninjew, sorry then thats all i know.
[10:00] <ramblingturtle> Kyral, ok but i am not all that command line literate but i am not afraid either so here I go.
[10:00] <Ninjew> insites: Thanks :)
[10:00] <insites> np.
[10:00] <ryufreak> !w32codecs
[10:01] <ubotu> I heard w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy). 64-bit? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[10:01] <Kyral> ramblingturtle, the Command Line is your friend if you learn it :D
[10:01] <poningru> nalioth: ok its not working
[10:01] <WildSurge> ompaul: eagerly awaiting ur return ;)
[10:01] <poningru> it just says command not found
[10:01] <poningru> btmaketorrentgui.py
[10:02] <MikeStyle> hey guys i need some help installing MOL(Mac on Linux)
[10:02] <shawarma> Is usplash working for anyone?
[10:03] <reiki_work> holycow: ahh... so the *actual* release will be Dapper Drake but the *candidate* release is called Colony 5... ok... I can accept that. :)  I don't *understand* it entirely, but I can accept that. :)
[10:04] <FR500> Feles: did you get it to work?
[10:05] <WildSurge> ugh, it seems one cannot uninstall esound without uninstalling the entire ubuntu desktop either :(
[10:05] <avalost> mmm vault soda is so tasty
[10:05] <shawarma> Kensey: Mr. Shuttleworth, I think.
[10:05] <deFrysk> WildSurge, ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage representing a set of packages
[10:06] <WildSurge> deFrysk: understood as much, not much use uninstalling esound then
[10:06] <WildSurge> however my system hangs when esound gets started
[10:06] <deFrysk> WildSurge, why uninstall esound ?
[10:06] <deFrysk> WildSurge, you are in gnome ?
[10:06] <WildSurge> yes
[10:07] <deFrysk> WildSurge, strange ,
[10:07] <WildSurge> yes
[10:07] <cevizoglu> ubotu, you suck
[10:07] <ubotu> I don't know, cevizoglu
[10:07] <deFrysk> is it an app that causes it WildSurge ?
[10:07] <WildSurge> it hangs on booting
[10:07] <cevizoglu> haha, sweet revenge
[10:07] <WildSurge> and then it continues booting as soon as i kill esd
[10:07] <deFrysk> WildSurge, you made your own kernel ?
[10:08] <WildSurge> deFrysk: stock hoary
[10:08] <snow_> found bitchx now=) thanks
[10:08] <WildSurge> deFrysk: it doesn't autodetect my soundcard tho, so i added it to /etc/modules
[10:08] <deFrysk> WildSurge, on board soundcard ?
[10:08] <WildSurge> snd-sbawe
[10:08] <WildSurge> old isa soundblaster 32, original (extra long)
[10:09] <snow_> one other thing, i need java, not gnu java that comes with ubuntu. how can i isntall that with apt-get?
[10:09] <deFrysk> WildSurge, oh gosh , if you have a pci slot left I would get another soundcard
[10:09] <WildSurge> deFrysk: i've been trying to for days to get it to work
[10:10] <s_wart> how do I set up a print server on ubuntu so that a windows client can print to it? I can print to the local printer from linux, but the windows box can't see the printer
[10:10] <WildSurge> deFrysk: buying a new sound card is out of the question, this is volunteer work with volunteer hardware
[10:10] <absenth> s_wart, cups, and samba.
[10:10] <deFrysk> ok
[10:10] <snow_> i need a program that makes a pop3 server for hotmail etc. so i can check my hotmails with my own email client. like mrpostman, anyone know any other progs?
[10:11] <s_wart> absenth: I've got cups installed and printer broadcast enabled - what does samba have to do with it?
[10:11] <WildSurge> deFrysk: sound actually does come out of my speakers, it just conflicts with something else and then hangs halfway thru playing the startup sound
[10:12] <absenth> s_wart, if the user doesn't need to authenticate in order to print (ie you don't care who on the lan has access to the printer) in your smb.conf file there's an option near the end under printers that by default is [private = yes]  change that to no, and it will go very smoothly.
[10:12] <s_wart> absenth: excellent, that's exactly what I want. thanks
[10:12] <absenth> s_wart, I've never been able to attach a windows client to a linux local printer without samba, or lp_server
[10:12] <sviestainis> i have a problem: i just bought an usb flash storage, but something went wrong while mounting it. it says "can't read superblock". can anyone help?
[10:12] <absenth> s_wart, however I'm also not a printer genius...  there may be a better way.
[10:13] <s_wart> absenth: I don't usually print stuff at home, but my wife is complaining :)
[10:13] <sviestainis> i have a problem: i just bought an usb flash storage, but something went wrong while mounting it. it says "can't read superblock". can anyone help?
[10:13] <absenth> s_wart, I have a jet direct in my Laserjet 5 at home.  makes life very easy for me.
[10:14] <s_wart> absenth: the thought of buying a smart printer is tempting :)
[10:15] <absenth> s_wart best of luck....  Samba has a huge number of help docs online.  a friend and I spent part of a saturday grinding through the process.  with a little help from O'Reilly's "network printing" book.
[10:15] <absenth> s_wart once we figured out the private=no bit, it was a LOT easier.
[10:15] <s_wart> absenth: thanks. I've poked around a lot with it on my nslu2, but not for printing. cups on ubuntu is disabled and the gui is maybe a bit too primitive
[10:16] <s_wart> at least the admin functions are disabled
[10:17] <ryufreak> anyone know how to install skins for xmms?
[10:18] <deFrysk> ryufreak, copy the skinpackages in .xmms/Skins or whatever the name of the hidden folder is
[10:18] <avalost> ryufreak, yeah, man xmms you can install them locally of syswide.. very easy read the man pages
[10:18] <deFrysk> ryufreak, dont unpack the themes , that not needed
[10:18] <sobersabre> hi, i've got an ssh forwarding q.
[10:19] <ompaul> WildSurge, hoary I take it?
[10:19] <WildSurge> ompaul: the bane of all soundusers, aye
[10:19] <sobersabre> i have many hosts i want to connect somehow through a tunnel.
[10:19] <ompaul> WildSurge, any chance you could consider breezy?
[10:19] <ryufreak> ty all
[10:20] <BiSK-8> how do i install themes into ubuntu?
[10:20] <ompaul> WildSurge, and no I will not promise you it will work or not have 5million megs of download inthe next few days
[10:20] <avalost> BiSK-8, what kind of 'themes'?
[10:20] <sobersabre> is it possible to instruct ssh create a tunnel on demand, or will I have to open all the possible localports ?
[10:20] <WildSurge> ompaul: i need to have this system ready tomorrow, and it has to run without maintenace from me
[10:20] <ompaul> WildSurge, ahh
[10:20] <BiSK-8> avalost, i downloaded a theme from gnome-look.org and extraceted the tarball 2 my desktop, now what?
[10:21] <WildSurge> ompaul: for the tech-illiterate
[10:21] <avalost> BiSK-8, you should not extract them, just go to system "lthemes" and install from the gnome panel
[10:21] <avalost> select the archive and click install
[10:22] <deFrysk> drag and drop the package in ther theme
[10:22] <deFrysk> thats the easyers way
[10:22] <WildSurge> ompaul: i found something abt esound in the ubuntu-guide, should i try that?
[10:22] <avalost> yeah you can do that too
[10:22] <jimmy_neutron> what do i have to do, to set up a freenx key?
[10:22] <xiaogil> is it normal that it takes hours to "Starting MySQL database server: mysqld" while i'm upgrading to breezy ?
[10:22] <BiSK-8> avalost, i do, but which file do i install?
[10:22] <avalost> the tar
[10:22] <BiSK-8> the extracetd folder is full of files
[10:22] <avalost> leave the tar compressed
[10:22] <BiSK-8> oh
[10:22] <BiSK-8> i c
[10:23] <ompaul> WildSurge, guide .... save any file you edit before you start playing with that stuff
[10:23] <ompaul> !tell WildSurge about ubuntuguide
[10:23] <deFrysk> BiSK-8, things are easyer then you expect right ? ;)
[10:23] <BiSK-8> lol
[10:23] <BiSK-8> ye
[10:23] <BiSK-8> p
[10:23] <BiSK-8> usually they are actually
[10:24] <WildSurge> rite, well i am more than happy to have u help me instead ompaul :)
[10:24] <deFrysk> BiSK-8, gnome is made for ease of use , no hassle
[10:24] <BiSK-8> and what abt splash screens?
[10:24] <jimmy_neutron> what do i have to do, to set up a freenx key?
[10:24] <ompaul> WildSurge, give me the url for that it could be someting I did myself
[10:24] <WildSurge> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/
[10:25] <WildSurge> then search for esound
[10:25] <s_wart> when I use cupsaddsmb -a it's prompting me for a root password on localhost - nothing seems to work there; I reset the password, but it still fails (!?)
[10:25] <ompaul> BiSK-8, can you please put all your thoughts on a subject on          one         line it         makes for           an easy read
[10:26] <Spudchat> hi everyone :)
[10:26] <Spudchat> im looking to add a directory permanately to the $PATH...how would i do that?
[10:26] <ompaul> WildSurge, I can't get to that ...
[10:26] <WildSurge> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly <-- ?
[10:27] <Kensey> Anybody else ever gotten the VFS not syncing kernel panic?
[10:27] <WildSurge> i can copy paste it, but not allowed to do it in here ;)
[10:27] <poningru> Kensey: do you have a usb or a camera or something?
[10:27] <BiSK-8> how do i install splash screens?
[10:27] <poningru> err usb flash drive
[10:28] <Kensey> nope, I just compiled a custom kernel from the Ubuntu kernel source packages
[10:28] <poningru> or anything similar connected?
[10:28] <nalioth> WildSurge: use a pastebin
[10:28] <ompaul> WildSurge, I did that - and it worked on my box - before you do just in case it does not - back up the files you edit
[10:28] <poningru> Kensey: what do you mean you compiled?
[10:28] <WildSurge> ompaul: willdo
[10:28] <Kensey> I mean I compiled.
[10:28] <poningru> did you just install it using synaptic/apt? or compiled?
[10:28] <poningru> oh
[10:28] <Kensey> make menuconfig, etc.
[10:28] <poningru> hmm you sure you got the right proc
[10:28] <poningru> right
[10:29] <Kensey> yep, PIII Coppermine
[10:29] <poningru> do you have any weird HW?
[10:29] <Kensey> not any weirder than any other laptop
[10:29] <poningru> like a crazy cd drive or a crazy floppy
[10:29] <poningru> Kensey: dude
[10:29] <poningru> Kensey: its the laptop
[10:29] <Kensey> the stock kernel boots fine, but I need a kernel without preemption enabled
[10:29] <Kensey> so it's not the laptop :P
[10:29] <ryufreak> !theme
[10:29] <ubotu> ryufreak: Bugger all, i dunno
[10:30] <poningru> hmm
[10:30] <avalost> ryufreak, prob?
[10:30] <BooZee> hello
[10:30] <nerp> bleh
[10:31] <BooZee> I had some probs with ubuntu, so I installed it all over again. and now (for some strange reason) I can't change the screen resolution.
[10:32] <ryufreak> can't install a theme =x
[10:32] <poningru> Kensey: so you didnt flag anything differently than the optomize and preemption?
[10:32] <ryufreak> i got lots of problems haha
[10:32] <poningru> different from the stock kernel I mean
[10:32] <nerp> ryufreak, all you need to do is install it in your ~/.xmms themes dire, restart xmms and select theme
[10:32] <nerp> it's not that hard
[10:32] <ryufreak> no not xmms nerp
[10:32] <ryufreak> gdm
[10:33] <poningru> I gotta read up on preemption I am not so knowledgable about that
[10:33] <ryufreak> system->perf->theme doesn't work, says format is invalid
[10:33] <nerp> ryufreak, gdm themes are easy too
[10:33] <poningru> rofl
[10:33] <Kensey> I disabled a bunch of drivers I didn't need, like RAID stuff, etc
[10:33] <timstokman> hey all, I just installed ubuntu but my sound doesn't, are there any program's to detect my hardware/soundcard on ubuntu?
[10:33] <nerp> ryufreak, google "Howto change gdm theme"
[10:33] <poningru> Kensey: hmm
[10:33] <ryufreak> k
[10:34] <poningru> !tell timstokman about sound
[10:34] <poningru> Kensey: I have no idea dude
[10:34] <poningru> sorry
[10:35] <poningru> !tell BooZee about resolution
[10:35] <ryufreak> wheres system configuration?
[10:35] <WildSurge> ompaul: here goes nothing, rebooting now
[10:36] <WildSurge> does breezy handle sound better?
[10:37] <deFrysk> WildSurge, yes
[10:37] <deFrysk> it does
[10:37] <D1> how do you mean?
[10:37] <D1> more support for sound cards?
[10:37] <ompaul> WildSurge,  I have found it to - but your going to have changes
[10:37] <tiredbones> I have Hoary installed for over 6 months now and I'm starting to have problems with evolution. I can not expung my deleted messages. Google was not help. Can someone point me to some doc?
[10:40] <poningru> tiredbones: whats wrong now?
[10:41] <poningru> it just wont expunge?
[10:41] <poningru> hmm
[10:41] <poningru> can you do other things to the folders? like move email around and stuff
[10:42] <BiSK-8> i got a problem, when i install a dark theme like a black one, i cant see the urls and writing on my firefox
[10:42] <BiSK-8> what should i do?
[10:42] <tiredbones> poningru, when I try to expung my message I get the following error: Error while Expunging folder  1/.evoulution/mail/local/Inbox, Summary and filter mismatch
[10:43] <poningru> hmm
[10:45] <poningru> tiredbones: yeah I dont know dude wait around till someone more knowledgable comes around
[10:45] <poningru> or post on the forums
[10:45] <poningru> BiSK-8: dude thats probably a theme bug
[10:45] <bpf> anyone know if the Eclipse IDE works with Hoary on amd64?
[10:45] <poningru> but which theme are you using
[10:45] <poningru> tiredbones: I only know about thunderbird
[10:45] <tiredbones> poningru, I also notice that when I delete an e-mail it doesn't show in the Trah.
[10:45] <tiredbones> poningru, I also notice that when I delete an e-mail it doesn't show in the Trash.
[10:46] <ompaul> Spudchat,
[10:46] <Buddha|> Could someone help me with Ubuntu PPC?
[10:46] <ompaul> Spudchat,  /etc/profile is where the path is held
[10:46] <Spudchat> yes? eheh
[10:46] <Spudchat> ty very much
[10:46] <ompaul> Spudchat, just tell me how long was that?
[10:47] <Spudchat> i didnt think i would get an answer :)
[10:48] <clinfix> can I use debian mirrors? I cant find the xnumlock
[10:48] <ompaul> Spudchat, it was 20 minutes there is also a reference to .bashrc but that local to each user I assume you want system wide
[10:48] <Spudchat> yeah its just me on here
[10:49] <nalioth> clinfix: debian mirrors WILL hose your machine
[10:49] <nalioth> clinfix: better to have apt-get build from source
[10:49] <ompaul> Spudchat, sorry its also .bash_profile
[10:49] <snow_> nyone running freepops?
[10:49] <ompaul> Spudchat, local user issues and global
[10:49] <FR500> snow_: what is frrepops?
[10:49] <edward> can i dual-boot debian and ubuntu and share a home dir, or will that break things?
[10:49] <edward> actually i guess they have different versions of gnome so it won't work
[10:50] <Spudchat> so should i add it in above the else statement or after you think?
[10:50] <clinfix> nalioth:okey than I have try to play mp3 , there is a ftp site that user document mentioned that is not responding
[10:50] <ompaul> edward, your getting the picture :)
[10:50] <poningru> tiredbones: can you move emails around to other folders?
[10:50] <ompaul> edward, if you had a mad /etc/fstab I guess you could share some stuff but man it would be mad
[10:50] <nalioth> clinfix: what does mp3 have to do with xnumlock?
[10:50] <poningru> tiredbones: it may be a problem with your imap server
[10:51] <FR500> snow_: what is freepops? I got confused with poptop
[10:51] <Spudchat> the only difference is that after else it includes a place for games so i think ill add it there
[10:51] <edward> i figure i could just have a 'shared' directory in my home-dir
[10:51] <edward> mount it from both
[10:51] <tiredbones> poningru, Let me give that a try.
[10:51] <nerp> finally got all of e17 compiled without a hitch time to test the fruits of my labor
[10:51] <clinfix> nalioth, :no it was a different question, I will try to build xnumlock
[10:51] <snow_> FR500, freepops lets you check hotmail etc in yor local emai client!
[10:52] <FR500> oh
[10:52] <WildSurge> ompaul: u still around?
[10:52] <ompaul> WildSurge, I am very round - in fact so round that I am almost circular
[10:53] <timstokman> it seems that ubuntu has correctly detected my sound card (SB Live!) but it just doesn't play any sound.
[10:53] <WildSurge> ompaul: basically that did nuffin :/
[10:53] <timstokman> the docs give a couple of tests and a reference to alsa drivers
[10:53] <timstokman> should i try these?
[10:53] <WildSurge> course disabling system event sounds do allow me to boot, but little else
[10:53] <ompaul> WildSurge, breezy? if you ahve the bandwidth grab the live CD and test it first
[10:54] <ompaul> WildSurge, yes I know what you said
[10:54] <WildSurge> great, now i can't even access the sound prefs :(
[10:54] <ompaul> WildSurge, now you know why I told you do make a copy before you editied
[10:55] <ompaul> WildSurge, edited
[10:55] <spiral> 'bye
[10:55] <tiredbones> poningru, I was able to move a message from trah back to my Inbox.
[10:56] <mohkohn> Has anyone here used qemu or xen?
[10:56] <WildSurge> ompaul: gotta go talk to my roommie for a bit, will bbl
[10:57] <WildSurge> thx for the help so fasr
[10:57] <poningru> tiredbones: hmm
[10:58] <tiredbones> Does anyone know what path evolution keeps the Trash file? I can't seem to find it.
[10:59] <Seveas> tiredbones, the tricky thing is: the trash does not exist
[10:59] <Seveas> evolution keeps the mail where it is, it just flags it as trashed
[10:59] <don824chan> i need to activate my infrared on my Dell Latitude CPx
[10:59] <don824chan> and i'm not entirely sure how
[10:59] <timstokman> anyone?
[11:00] <don824chan> is there anyone here who can answer questions?
[11:00] <[LethAL] > No
[11:00] <FR500> timstokman: what was your question
[11:01] <don824chan> i searched for infrared on the wiki but i couldn't find anything relevant
[11:01] <FR500> don824chan: it's user community, you gotta wait some 10 minutes for someone to answer before "pushing" or something
[11:01] <timstokman> I asked about my soundcard, I checked the docs on the website and they gave a couple of tests
[11:01] <sambagirl> gas go up 1 dollar here in 2 days!!!
[11:01] <tiredbones> Seveas, Do you know what is happening when the error message says,:Summary and filter mismatch.
[11:01] <don824chan> well its just no one is talking
[11:01] <sambagirl> oh no! how i drive my xjs v12????
[11:01] <timstokman> it turns out linux detected my soundcard correctly
[11:01] <don824chan> at all
[11:01] <linner> hello everyone...
[11:01] <sambagirl> opps wrong channel sorry
[11:01] <timstokman> but it just doesn't work
[11:02] <FR500> don824chan: try looking up in google with linux and the device name
[11:02] <don824chan> thats the thing, i don't know the device name
[11:02] <timstokman> should i try these alsa sounddrivers?
[11:02] <tiredbones> Seveas, What it checking for?
[11:02] <Eppu> timstokman: Are you sure you have the volumes turned up and not muted? Have you tried the alsamixer command?
[11:02] <linner> I understand that I can generate a gnupg key on my ubuntu system.  Am I correct?
[11:02] <don824chan> i looked in my device manager but i didn't see anything
[11:02] <FR500> timstokman: did u check the wiki
[11:02] <nalioth> linner: yes
[11:02] <linner> nalioth:  ok... my question is where would I find the gnupg program?
[11:03] <timstokman> volume is turned up
[11:03] <FR500> timstokman: u should ask before pm'ing
[11:03] <timstokman> and i am now trying alsamixer
[11:03] <tiredbones> Seveas, What files would I be safe to delete and start over?
[11:04] <timstokman> but i am not sure what to do with it?
[11:04] <Travis|H> This is sort of a funky question .... but here goes ... I come from a Windows background and am used to Microsoft Excel for spreadsheets ... OpenOffice Calc = Excel basically .. however I am trying to do some conditional formatting
[11:04] <Eppu> timstokman: In alsamixer, make sure that at least the Master and PCM volumes are up and not muted (marked as MM)
[11:04] <Travis|H> for some reason the dialog doesn't let me set a color/style for the condition of the format :(
[11:04] <Travis|H> basically I want to make every other line a certain color
[11:05] <don824chan> i found my infrared connector in my device manager but i'm not entirely sure what good that does me due to the fact that i don't see it's name anywhere
[11:06] <FR500> don824chan: is it external or something?
[11:06] <don824chan> no
[11:06] <Seveas> tiredbones, sorry, never seen that before
[11:06] <Seveas> can't say anything useful about it
[11:07] <don824chan> FR500: it says its external but its not
[11:08] <don824chan> it says bios.external_connector_type:string:Infrared
[11:09] <shinu> are the backports down or something?
[11:12] <poningru> shinu: are you using the mirrormax or something backports or the official backports?
[11:12] <shinu> mirrormax
[11:12] <shinu> poningru: mirrormax
[11:12] <Leonik> i want to parition the hard drive for ext2 not 3 right?
[11:12] <nerp> hmm, any of you guys running e17?
[11:12] <poningru> shinu: thats shut down
[11:12] <cyphase> (Auto Message) Hey everyone. I'm going to be offline for about 6 days since I'm moving. Since my blog is hosted in my room, it's going to be offline as well. Just to let you know.
[11:12] <poningru> use the official
[11:13] <pluffsy> I have a problem with something called bonobo-activation server that won't start which seems to affect lots of gnome apps. any ideas of what I can do?
[11:13] <shinu> poningru: ok thanks
[11:13] <poningru> shinu: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[11:13] <poningru> for more reading
[11:13] <poningru> !tell shinu about backports
[11:14] <shinu> poningru: great thanks! :)
[11:14] <poningru> shinu: np
[11:14] <mohkohn> Is skype broken in breezy?
[11:14] <kemik> mohkohn:  is skype in the ubuntu repos for breezy?
[11:15] <linner> mohkohn:  no
[11:15] <pluffsy> skype is evil
[11:15] <pluffsy> :)
[11:15] <holycow> but they have ubuntu packages!
[11:15] <mohkohn> skype: Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3.2) but it is not installable
[11:15] <holycow> dontcha hate it when evil makes it so easy to be evil?
[11:15] <nerp> hmm, anyone have any idea as to why e17 will not show up in my gdm session after adding an enlightenment.desktop in two directories it reads for the files?
[11:16] <holycow> kemik, no, download the debs from skype them selves
[11:16] <pluffsy> holycow: gizmo and gnomemeeting is easy too :)
[11:16] <mohkohn> I was following the "destructions" in the wiki
[11:16] <kemik> holycow:  mm i did so in hoary... but his question had me thinking it was "officially ported"
[11:17] <holycow> no
[11:17] <holycow> i doubt it ever will be
[11:17] <holycow> pluffsy, yeah i would preffer to use gizmo indeed
[11:18] <ompaul> mohkohn, >> deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ ubuntu-seveas breezy-extras
[11:18] <ompaul>  << add that to /etc/apt/sources.list and then >>sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install skype<<
[11:18] <mohkohn> thanks I'll try that
[11:18] <pluffsy> to be serious for a while, I really belive it's a good idea to try avoding closed protocols for such basic things as voip. it's something that really should be free as in freedom
[11:18] <ompaul> mohkohn, don't try, do :)
[11:19] <kemik> there is no try
[11:19] <kemik> only do
[11:19] <kemik> omg
[11:19] <ompaul> kemik, try is the way of others
[11:21] <esac_> why doesn't the network startup kick off in the background ?
[11:21] <mohkohn> ompaul does he have a gpg key? so I don't get the The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[11:22] <ompaul> mohkohn, that is the way of skype
[11:22] <xiaogil> mysql 4.1 doesn't work anymore since i have upgraded to breezy, what can i do ?
[11:22] <ompaul> mohkohn, mohkohn I presume he does
[11:23] <inc|freaky> what programs can i use for beeing able to view stuff captured by my webcam?
[11:23] <inc|freaky> got a logitech quickcam 3000
[11:23] <[LethAL] > camorama might do that inc|freaky
[11:24] <inc|freaky> thx :D
[11:26] <darklogic> inc|freaky, gimp
[11:26] <inc|freaky> lol [LethAL]  it tries to capture pictures etc. from my pctv card from pinnacle
[11:26] <[LethAL] > Oh
[11:26] <inc|freaky> darklogic: no i want to record videos
[11:26] <darklogic> inc|freaky, oh okay :)
[11:27] <[LethAL] > Speaking of webcams... ** finds his webcam's model **
[11:27] <[LethAL] > Anyone know how to get a Meade ETX-105EC running (USB)
[11:27] <[LethAL] > Gimp doesn't see it
[11:30] <inc|freaky> what is the program called again what is in the breezy repositorys for managing packages ...?
[11:30] <sobersabre> has anybody here tried evolution on breezy with exchange account ?
[11:31] <Travis|H> I am trying to use Calc (Excel program of OpenOffice) for conditional formatting to "band" colors (every other line is a certain color) ....... I'm trying to use "=MOD(ROW(),2)=1" as "Formula Is" ....... but it isn't working
[11:31] <Travis|H> does Calc use a different method to achieve this?
[11:32] <[LethAL] > Travis|H, No idea, maybe you could try running Excel through WINE?
[11:32] <BusMaster> i have a toshiba tecra a3 laptop. When  use suspend or hibernate, and press the power button to turn it out of those states, the laptop starts, but I see nothing on screen and the laptop does not take any input. I am using hoary, with a self-rolled kernel 2.6.13.2, what could be the issue?
[11:32] <[LethAL] > inc|freaky, Synaptic?
[11:32] <inc|freaky> no not synaptic
[11:32] <sobersabre> Travis|H, have you tried: =MOD(ROW(),2)==1 ?
[11:32] <[LethAL] > gnome-apps-install I think?
[11:32] <sobersabre> where is the condition ?
[11:32] <inc|freaky> the thing comming with breezy and which is not in 5,4
[11:32] <inc|freaky> 5.4
[11:32] <mohkohn> I am only using my fingers and toes for counting but there are some pretty good online docs for openoffice
[11:33] <Gnonthgol> To newbies: We just found out there is a #ubuntu-newbie chanel
[11:33] <mohkohn> Google should help.
[11:33] <Travis|H> sobersaber: yea still doesn't work
[11:33] <pluffsy> how does one make an at on an american keyboard?
[11:33] <[LethAL] > inc|freaky, gnome-app-install
[11:33] <[LethAL] > pluffsy, shift 2
[11:33] <kemik> pluffsy:  shit 2
[11:33] <[LethAL] > I think
[11:33] <[LethAL] > LMAO
[11:33] <Anak1n> help
[11:33] <kemik> *shift*
[11:33] <sobersabre> Travis|H, do a debug: 1. how can u set a color, 2. how can you make a condition true
[11:33] <Anak1n> please my X is down
[11:33] <Travis|H> [LethAL] : and I don't have a licence for another copy of Excel so I can't use it
[11:33] <sobersabre> etc.
[11:33] <Anak1n> i'm now on ubuntu live
[11:34] <sobersabre> Anak1n, you don't really need X
[11:34] <[LethAL] > Travis|H, ah...
[11:34] <sobersabre> have you read the hardware compatibility list ?
[11:34] <Anak1n> how do U mean i don't need
[11:34] <Anak1n> ?
[11:34] <Anak1n> yes
[11:34] <Anak1n> I think problem is
[11:34] <sobersabre> and is your hardware in there ?
[11:34] <Anak1n> nvidia 7667
[11:34] <Lars_G> I'm unbearably lazy, where is the howto for equiv please?
[11:34] <Anak1n> how to uninstall
[11:34] <Anak1n> ?
[11:34] <[LethAL] > Anak1n, try talking on one line
[11:35] <nerp> bah: what directory does gdm "definitely" read .. having probs addind another WM manually
[11:35] <Anak1n> ok
[11:35] <mohkohn> Travis|H, http://ooodocs.sourceforge.net/ this forum might help
[11:35] <Anak1n> I install nvidia driver 7667 and x crash
[11:35] <nerp> wanna add the *.desktop tried the standard dirs, doesn't work though
[11:35] <Anak1n> how can I fix it
[11:35] <kemik> Anak1n:  edit xorg.conf and use the original driver
[11:35] <kemik> i guess
[11:35] <[LethAL] > Anak1n, X wouldn't crash if you did that
[11:35] <pluffsy> damn... the swedish shortcut nor the american works...
[11:35] <Travis|H> Thank you mohkohn
[11:35] <kemik> pluffsy:  vad frsker du gra?
[11:36] <Anak1n> how do U think original driver?
[11:36] <pluffsy> gnome won't work and xfce seems to miss lots of basic stuff (like mac keyboard support)
[11:36] <[LethAL] > kemik, "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and change nvidia to nv under drivers I think
[11:36] <RMeist> enought with the seriousness, now this: http://terpsboy.com/blogpics04/fishnet22.jpg
[11:36] <[LethAL] > Anak1n even
[11:36] <kemik> [LethAL] :  exactly ;)
[11:36] <Anak1n> :S
[11:37] <pluffsy> kemik: The bonobo-activation server won't start and I have no I dea what to do about that so I tried xfce instead. :(
[11:37] <Anak1n> I do that
[11:37] <kemik> pluffsy:  ok. no idea what bonobo is
[11:37] <kemik> ;)
[11:38] <pluffsy> kemik: damn... it seems to be something apps like nautlius and evolution use.
[11:38] <[LethAL] > I think it's some bigass part of the backand
[11:38] <[LethAL] > !bonobo
[11:38] <ubotu> [LethAL] : Did you get hit by a windmill?
[11:38] <[LethAL] > !lart himself
[11:38] <[LethAL] > ;)
[11:39] <pluffsy> hmmm bonobo-activation seems to be something for CORBA servers and well I don't even know what that is so I guess it's nothing I use.
[11:39] <dooglus> nice new wallpaper in the recent breezy update!
[11:39] <pluffsy> arghhhhh
[11:39] <nerp> kemik, any experience adding a WM to gdm manually?
[11:39] <nerp> on breezy
[11:40] <kemik> pluffsy:  seems gnome uses bonobo
[11:40] <[LethAL] > nerp, install selectwm maybe?
[11:40] <nerp> [LethAL] , prob is, i've added the desktop entries and gdm for some reason will not read them
[11:41] <pluffsy> maybe I should try kde :( what do I need to install to get that running? kdesktop and what kdm?
[11:41] <nerp> i'll check selectwm..
[11:42] <Anak1n> ok if U won't help me tell me only how to go on internet from failsafe and I'm gone
[11:42] <kemik> pluffsy:  kubuntu-desktop i guess is a nice metapackage
[11:43] <dooglus> nerp: you just have to put the new .desktop file in one of the directories gdm looks in, then restart gdm
[11:43] <kemik> Anak1n:  we did help  you
[11:43] <kemik> Anak1n:  [LethAL]  and I told you what you could do
[11:43] <nerp> dooglus, I have.. i've rebooted.. no action ;/
[11:43] <dooglus> nerp: gdm looks in these places: SessionDesktopDir=/etc/X11/sessions/:/etc/dm/Sessions/:/usr/share/gdm/BuiltInSessions/:/usr/share/xsessions/
[11:43] <shadeofgrey> hi guys
[11:44] <stpere> hello shadeofgrey
[11:44] <nerp> dooglus, just for kicks i've added the .desktop file in ALL of those places, still noaction
[11:44] <shadeofgrey> anybody know how to get DVD playback in totem with breezy??  libdvdcss2 is broken apparently...  i tried that earlier and it doesnt work
[11:44] <[LethAL] > pluffsy, kubuntu-desktop is good :P
[11:44] <Anak1n> kemik: I do that and nothing crash again
[11:45] <stpere> shadeofgrey, I suggest using totem-xine
[11:45] <nerp> and to make matters worse: sudo: gdm-restart: command not found
[11:45] <pluffsy> but I like gnome :(
[11:45] <kemik> nerp:  i think you should add it in .xsession  ?
[11:45] <pluffsy> damn non-working gnome
[11:45] <dooglus> nerp: I guess the .desktop file is wrong then.  see https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/2381 for how I got enlightenment added to gdm
[11:45] <stpere> shadeofgrey, but I'm not familiar with breezy
[11:45] <kemik> pluffsy:  installing hoary fails for you then ?
[11:45] <nerp> dooglus, will do
[11:45] <shadeofgrey> what does totem-xine do?
[11:45] <[LethAL] > nerp, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[11:45] <[LethAL] > nerp, if that fails, sudo killall gdm;sudo gdm
[11:45] <[LethAL] > ; sudo gdm*
[11:46] <dooglus> [LethAL] : he rebooted...
[11:46] <kemik> Anak1n:  ok.. well there is "lynx" and "links" if you want to surf the WWW in textmode
[11:46] <stpere> shadeofgrey, it's totem but using the xine backend rather than gstreamer
[11:46] <xiaogil> i have got the following error msg: Errors during execution: postfix mutt lsb-core mailx mysql-server-4.1 lsb-graphics lsb lsb-cxx. What shall i do ?
[11:46] <[LethAL] > dooglus, sorry... wireless went down for 4 mins
[11:46] <stpere> shadeofgrey, it's usually more successful
[11:46] <xiaogil> when upgrading to breezy
[11:46] <nerp> dooglus, my .desktop entries are identical
[11:46] <shadeofgrey> by the way id just like to say thanks to everybody who helps out here.  ive learned a lot of linux bexcause of all of you
[11:46] <pluffsy> kemik, the installation doesn't fail but gnome first randomly gave me these errors (bonobo-activation server bla bla, nautrilus couldn't start, etc.) but now the error is every time I boot, maybe after I made an update in the Update manager.
[11:47] <shadeofgrey> andit feels amazing to not be billy gates' bitch anymore
[11:47] <dooglus> shadeofgrey: yes, Linus T. makes a much nicer pimp.
[11:47] <kemik> pluffsy:  could be.. did you add non-official repos. and/or backports?
[11:47] <shadeofgrey> doog:  welll....  comparatively i suppose you'd say linus is cuter.... but i have no opinion
[11:47] <pluffsy> kemik, I have universe added
[11:47] <Anak1n> ok
[11:48] <Anak1n> ther is no use
[11:48] <dooglus> shadeofgrey: not such a bitter aftertaste IMHO
[11:48] <xiaogil> I have got the following error msg: * Starting web server (Apache2)...                                    [fail] 
[11:48] <xiaogil> what can i do ?
[11:48] <Anak1n> !kill Anak1n
[11:48] <ubotu> Anak1n: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[11:49] <kemik> pluffsy:  dont think that would mess up your system really...
[11:49] <_iGadget_> Hi all
[11:49] <pluffsy> kemik, hmmmm... :/
[11:49] <kemik> pluffsy:  try a complete reinstall perhaps ?
[11:49] <pluffsy> kemik, I've tried that multiple times. both standard and server install and adding gnome with apt-get
[11:49] <Tachyon> I'm trying to add a printer to Ubuntu that's hooked up to a separate XP machine over a network.  I've made it to the setup (Add a Printer) to use a Samba printer, but I'm not quite sure how to enter the rest of the details.  I've entered the IP Address of that computer as my host, and the Printer's share name (Printer) as the printer name, but I'm not sure what to put for "username" and "password"
[11:50] <pluffsy> kemik, and with different cd:s too
[11:50] <[LethAL] > Tachyon, try the XP users's info
[11:50] <kemik> ok. then ubuntu doesnt like your system i guess
[11:50] <[LethAL] > Tachyon, It's worse for me, I'm trying to do it the other way round
[11:50] <kemik> pluffsy:  run xfce for a few days and grab breezy onthe 13th ? =)
[11:51] <_iGadget_> does anyone know if Breezy will support the ATI mobility radeon express 200 graphics chip?
[11:51] <Tachyon> I'm not sure my XP user has "info."  I know the password is blank.  The trouble is, I had the setup working previously but had to stop using Ubuntu for a while, and when I started again the network settings weren't the same, so the printer didnt' work. :/
[11:52] <[LethAL] > Tachyon, I meant user/pass
[11:52] <Tachyon> Yeah . . . I don't think our XP user has a password.
[11:52] <[LethAL] > Tachyon, Make sure the PC's are on the same domain
[11:52] <inc|freaky> how to hold back certain packages like kvirc? because i installed one using checkinstall
[11:52] <inc|freaky> i dont even want to get it updated on a dist-upgrade
[11:52] <Tachyon> LethAL: They're on the same network, I know the IP Address of the XP machine.
[11:53] <[LethAL] > Tachyon, domain != network
[11:53] <_iGadget_> Tachyon: maybe the word 'Workgroup' makes more sense to you? :)
[11:53] <nalioth> inc|freaky: see wiki.ubuntu.com for "apt pinning"
[11:53] <[LethAL] > Domain != Workgroup eithing
[11:53] <inc|freaky> nalioth: thx :)
[11:53] <[LethAL] > !wiki AptPinning
[11:54] <[LethAL] > :/
[11:54] <Tachyon> . . . . both computers are in the same Workgroup.  I'm not sure how both would be on the same "domain."
[11:54] <_iGadget_> Lethal: well... if you lack a 'real' domain, a workgroup will work just fine ;)
[11:54] <[LethAL] > Ya
[11:54] <inc|freaky> nalioth: nothing found
[11:55] <pluffsy> kemik, but I sort of need (at) and right click to get anything done :(
[11:55] <nalioth> inc|freaky: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PinningHowto
[11:55] <_iGadget_> tachyon: you probably don't have a domain. A domain requires a domain server, which is very unlikely to have in a small home network
[11:55] <inc|freaky> nalioth: thx :)
[11:55] <kemik> pluffsy:  uh.. you should have those in xfce or icewm or some other wm
[11:55] <[LethAL] > Tachyon, make sure your Ubuntu's domain is set to MSHOME... that should help
[11:56] <kemik> well im off
[11:56] <Tachyon> [LethAL] : How would I go about doing that?
[11:56] <[LethAL] > pluffsy, copy @
[11:56] <_iGadget_> Lethal: blegh :s MSHOME...
[11:56] <GregAsche> is there a way to run two clocks in my upper right corner?
[11:56] <[LethAL] > Tachyon, System, Administration, Networking, add and click General Windows Networking settings
[11:56] <_iGadget_> Does anyone actually keep that terrible name? :p
[11:57] <nalioth> GregAsche: sure. just add one
[11:57] <GregAsche> how?
[11:57] <kevogod> Anyone know if there is a problem with the libgda2-3 package for Breezy through apt? libdga2-3 and libgda2-common are locked and cannot be installed as they are not found.
[11:57] <nalioth> GregAsche: right click on the panel
[11:57] <inc|freaky> nalioth: thx :D
[11:57] <nalioth> inc|freaky: what for now?
[11:58] <GregAsche> nalioth: I don't see anything to add a second one
[11:58] <inc|freaky> nalioth: just because it worked :D
[11:58] <_iGadget_> lethal: that's better... but I bet you've changed your workgroup name, right? :)
[11:58] <Tachyon> [LethAL] : Done.  The domain name is MSHOME now.
[11:58] <nalioth> GregAsche: "add to panel" > clock
[11:58] <[LethAL] > Tachyon, try it now... should work hopefully
[11:59] <GregAsche> nalioth: thanks
[11:59] <Tachyon> [LethAL] : No. :/  And I have a feeling it's just because I've no clue what I'm doing. :D
[11:59] <dell500> if anoyne cares, i think if you leave a message open in Evolution for long enough, it drains memory really badly, so just fyi
[11:59] <[LethAL] > Tachyon, you are trying to add a printer in the printer config dialog, no?
[11:59] <_iGadget_> dell500: that's bad... thanks for the tip