=== mak_ [n=mak@h66-201-246-249.gtcust.grouptelecom.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [12:41] Hey there, I thought I'd post a small message : I thought of starting an "ubuntu|cities" series of wallpapers, and have made a try at making three of them : [12:41] ubuntu|paris [12:42] ubuntu|venezia [12:42] ubuntu|praha [12:42] They're all available here : [12:42] http://www.manucornet.net/GNOME/wallpapers/ [12:42] Hope other people can contribute with, for instance, their home city :) === klepas [n=klepas@203-213-31-142.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [02:12] Anyone awake? === klepas is now known as klepas|afk === klepas|afk is now known as klepas [03:32] ... === klepas [n=klepas@203-213-31-142.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [05:02] Still here. === klepas is now known as klepas|Zzz === nicholaspaul [n=nicholas@d198-53-138-13.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [05:25] I come with messages. [05:26] Volvoguy is dead/dying/crying/staring at the wall [05:26] But do not fear, he'll be back in 24hrs [05:27] klepas|Zzz can you grab the notes? [05:29] waking me up.. [05:29] what's up? [05:31] nicholaspaul: what's up? [05:31] want a coffee? [05:31] Volvoguy just told me to ask you to grab the notes.... [05:31] maybe later [05:31] yep, got them [05:31] phew. My job is done [05:32] well, kind of. Once i fix my hard drive......... [05:32] the notes he mailed as an attachment on the ML [05:32] aaahhh yes i have those. [05:32] same [05:32] so, what about them? [05:33] i dunno. thats all V'guy wanted . He said you would know. :S [05:33] alrighty [05:33] i think i know [05:33] hey do you know anything about mounting hard drives? [05:33] yea? [05:34] mount [05:34] $ mount device_name [05:35] i put an HFS+ disk in, did fdisk, mkfs and edited fstab. [05:35] but it looks like the disk is the same size as the other hard drive. [05:35] is it supposed to? [05:35] [same size] [05:36] no, the master is 6Gb, the slave is 20Gb. [05:36] alrighty [05:36] $ less /etc/fstab [05:36] what have you got there? [05:37] my CDROM's mount to /media/____ so i made the slave hdd mount to /media/rothko [05:37] lemme see.... [05:37] # /etc/fstab: static file system information. [05:37] # [05:37] # [05:37] proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 [05:37] /dev/hda1 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 [05:38] /dev/hda5 none swap sw 0 0 [05:38] /dev/hdb /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0 [05:38] /dev/hdc /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0 [05:38] /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0 [05:38] /dev/hdd3 /media/rothko ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 [05:38] alright [05:38] now to mount that drive [05:38] # mount /media/rothko [05:39] i used 'sudo mount'... [05:39] special device /dev/hdd3 does not exist [05:39] sure [05:40] mmh [05:40] my dad would know [05:40] but he's out [05:40] try #ubuntu [05:41] i'm going to go back to sleep for an hour or so longer [05:41] and then check new submissions @ art.ubuntu.com [05:41] see you around [05:41] oh ok, i'll do that. thx klepas [05:41] oh yes, i have a couple there... [05:41] no worries [05:41] you bet - see ya :) [05:41] :o) === klepas|Zzz is sleeping again === nicholaspaul [n=nicholas@d198-53-138-13.abhsia.telus.net] has left #ubuntu-artwork ["Konversation] === kamstrup [n=kamstrup@0x3e42da90.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === ..[topic/#ubuntu-artwork:kamstrup] : Wrap up for Breezy and get a coherent development framework ready early in the Dapper cycle === bach_skol [i=hidden-u@nat.ksk.sala.se] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === bach_skol [i=hidden-u@nat.ksk.sala.se] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === bach_skol [i=hidden-u@nat.ksk.sala.se] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === klepas|Zzz is now known as klepas === kamstrup [n=kamstrup@0x3e42da90.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [09:16] Hi kamstrup [09:18] hi klepas [09:20] just woke up from a nap :) [09:22] I had an insane idea last night... [09:22] you going to share? [09:22] I emphasize that it might be _insane_ ;-P [09:23] doesn't matter [09:23] Would it be possible to add a new image "format", where images where actually small libs drawing gdk pixbufs using cairo? [09:24] I'm just browsing around in the source of libgdk_pixbuf and it seems it would be possible in theory [09:24] no idea [09:25] It would allow for some seriously cool stuff. [09:25] I actually use Suse and hacked KDE [09:25] :-P [09:25] Mostly [09:25] my GNOME lib knowledge is, well, low [09:25] But also open up for some serious security issues... Images being libraries actually executing code... :-S [09:25] yep [09:26] hehe... I'm also inquiring #gtk atm... :-D [09:26] :-) [09:31] any luck [09:32] No replies yet. Trying bot #gtk and #gnome-love... [09:33] There's some basic stuff I need to be clear on before I waste any time on this... [09:34] I don't dare mention to them what my true intentions is, so I'm asking genric type of questions about gdk-pixpufs [09:34] :-D [09:39] rof rof! [09:46] I love pngcrush [09:46] just adding wallpapers from the submission list om AUC. [09:47] resized the file size of a wallpaper from 323 Kb down to236 [09:47] :) [09:58] still on? [10:09] yea a little... :) [10:11] seen KDE 3.5 screenshots yet? [10:13] no [10:14] http://www.kde-look.org/content/pre1/29658-1.jpg === kamstrup looking ... [10:14] wow [10:15] is that the default layout? === AndyFitz [n=andy@220-245-97-227.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [10:19] I'm not sure. [10:19] Hi Andy! [10:19] g'day klepas [10:19] Just like to say well done on the Etiquette icons :) [10:19] doing an emergency revision of ubuntu-title.ttf [10:20] revision? === klepas used several icons for http://wombat.nuxified.com/files/wip.jpg [10:21] thanks mate. [10:22] You live in Brisbane I hear, no? [10:23] Gotta go. Cheers! [10:24] yep I'm here in brisbane au [10:24] Canberra. [10:24] http://lugvegas.org/sneakpeak.svgz [10:24] for anyone interested in etiquette ;) [10:25] ack [10:26] binary [10:26] havent got gzip installed ? [10:26] yea [10:26] do [10:26] just Konqueror is a bit wacky with binaries === lukacu [n=lukacu@cpe-212-18-59-221.dynamic.amis.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [10:27] got it [10:27] very trendy :) [10:28] I might blog this [10:28] :) [10:29] not yet [10:29] alright [10:29] sneakpeak, eh? :-P [10:29] sneakpeak leak [10:29] :) [10:29] how is the icon set going, btw? [10:30] art deadline being yesterday? [10:30] (not that it matters, Dapper will be the big challenge) [10:30] good and bad. I've determined a way to assist controlled rebranding of it. the xml is very clean for each svg file. [10:31] Cool [10:32] all using the same minimal style information per xml. :) so hopefully palette shadow weight, line thickness and gradients can all be changed with simple text-replace commands. [10:33] useful [10:33] hey, i've been wondering [10:33] and since I think your Inkscaping skills are somewhat ahead of mine [10:34] I did a wallpaper in inkscape [10:34] and used a lot of gradients [10:34] the gradients were pulled quite long [10:34] they exceed the corresponding object's edges [10:35] so you got very visible colours ? [10:35] yea [10:35] but the problem is [10:35] in the gradient. all the steps were massive yeah ? [10:35] when i resize my wallpaper - like select all the objects, group them [10:35] keep the resize ration the same [10:35] and then make it bigger [10:36] the gradients get borked [10:36] see the gradient icon in the top right toolbar ? [10:36] because the gradient lengths/lines do not enlarge/expand with the rest of the image [10:36] hold on, i'll open [10:36] is that selected ? if not then thats your issue mate [10:36] :) [10:37] thankyou!!!!! [10:37] also to fix that buggered gradient step visibility you are going to have to dither your image somehow after its been made raster ( download cinepaind and select your gradient areas and appy a gausian blur === klepas is *extremely* happy [10:38] i will [10:38] thank you very, very much for that! [10:38] no worries mate. [10:38] means i can make my wallpaper larger than 1024x768 [10:38] and even completely SVG [10:39] http://wombat.nuxified.com/node/65 [10:39] That is where I had my problem [10:40] Now i can update it and make it fit the rules to be an official Ubuntu wallpaper [10:41] sweet. thanks [10:47] almost done [10:47] making it 100% svg [10:47] svgz is an SVG compressed? [10:54] yep but don't rely on it unless your svg is quite large [10:54] not everyone has gzip ( windows inkscape users ) [11:05] yep [11:05] mmhh [11:05] still having some problem with this bugger now [11:05] would it be alright if i let you have a little look at her and see if you can fix her up? === krinchy [n=Pablo@227.Red-83-37-160.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === krinchy [n=Pablo@227.Red-83-37-160.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has left #ubuntu-artwork ["Leaving"] [11:12] Andy? [11:15] i've got dinner [11:15] i'll send it to you afterwards [11:15] if i can get your email or something === klepas is now known as klepas|afk [11:25] andy@lugvegas.org === klepas|afk is now known as klepas [11:56] back and sent [12:23] AndyFitz: you have mail [12:23] :) === kamstrup [n=kamstrup@0x3e42da90.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [12:56] Back for more I see, eh? :-) [01:01] yeah. -can't get enough === ogra [n=ogra@p5089CF36.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [01:13] LOl. [01:13] Andy helped me out. [01:13] I got to fix that Basse wallpaper [01:13] it's not at a 1600x1200 [01:13] :) [01:19] ? [01:19] export it to that res mate [01:19] what now? [01:19] more importantly . if you havent seen the serenity movie do so ! [01:19] I just received your email [01:20] hold on - too much at once [01:20] basse3 is a bit different [01:20] black? [01:20] no open it in inkscape [01:20] background. [01:20] rsvg bug. never mind that svg file it was just for fun [01:20] the png is attached [01:20] at 1600x1200 for you [01:20] *looks* [01:21] strange [01:21] my version of inkscape renders the bar black [01:21] and the ubuntu lozenge black [01:21] with the logo and text only white [01:21] :( [01:21] ignore that file klepas :-) [01:22] alright [01:22] the png is also attached to that email. base2.svg [01:22] yep [01:22] that looks good [01:22] my version of inkscape displays the SVG incorrectly, as does the wallpaper background manager for this version of KDE. === klepas is running Inkscape 0.42 and KDE 3.4 [01:23] yeah never mind that image [01:23] okay === ogra_ [n=ogra@p5089FF2D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [01:25] Andy: how does the GNOME background wallpaper manager render that SVG? [01:25] Correctly? [01:25] klepas, why do you have a wombat on the site :) ? [01:26] on which site? [01:26] on the Basse wallpaper site at gnome-look [01:27] because http://wombat.nuxified.com [01:27] is my site [01:27] ah :) [01:27] my favourite animal is a wombat - and that is my universal avatar [01:27] :) [01:27] i was just wondering [01:27] huge guinea pigs :) [01:27] hehe [01:30] orga_: http://wombat.nuxified.com/node/46 - there you go :) [01:38] yay [01:38] sweet :) [01:39] I love the second shot [01:40] these were made by one of my LUG friends whilst he was riding in rural ACT, Australia. === klepas is now known as klepas|afk === ogra [n=ogra@p5089FC48.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === klepas|afk is now known as klepas === miketech [n=miketech@dslb-084-056-230-200.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [04:45] ahoy [04:49] hi [04:50] what's been doing? [04:50] leisure-time :) [04:51] Aye, it's lovely. Holidays here for 2 weeksa [04:51] for 2 weeks? wow [04:51] yea [04:51] school holidays [04:52] ah ok [04:52] Love them. [04:54] seen the next big thing in the linux world? [04:54] ? [04:55] what do you mean? [04:55] the next big technology [04:55] :-) [04:55] it's called 'klik' [04:55] http://img324.imageshack.us/img324/2348/e170py.jpg [04:55] http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=12841 [04:56] ah yeah [04:56] heard about it [04:57] but it's not a real new technology [04:57] Yea, I suppose. [04:57] Nevertheless, darn cool. [04:57] looks simply like a protocol handler for konqueror, executing different packages [04:58] yeah the idea is nice [04:58] it's installing stuff with a browser [04:58] yup [04:58] but if they do anything wrong it could be abused [04:58] installing software automatically on a website [04:58] and so on [05:00] you mean making you execute klik://app ? [05:00] where app could be something malicious? === derek[] [n=UserName@59.95.96.9] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [05:01] Hi [05:02] yup exactly [05:02] I want to learn the reflections in irregular shapes. Any resource? [05:03] (online) [05:12] what exactly do you mean derek? [05:13] you know how the gradients are used in a circle to give it a glossy 3D look? [05:13] now if I have an irregular shape.. where should the appropriate gradients be applied, is what I want to study [05:14] oh [05:14] well use logic [05:14] for example [05:14] for a bubble [05:14] if the light comes from the top [05:14] just copy the original layer, in say if you're using inkscape [05:14] and make it a wee bit smaller [05:14] and white [05:14] and add a gradient [05:15] yes [05:15] with the lightest part being closest to the top and fading out downwards [05:15] if the light is from the top [05:16] (its not just one gradient used.. there will be several in an irregular shapes) [05:18] yes [05:18] now [05:18] lets make our shape more complex [05:18] two bubbles [05:18] but they join [05:18] forming the outline of an 8 [05:18] just use the gradient twice [05:19] *wish we had a white board* [05:19] Yea. :) [05:19] it also helps if you just take still-lifes of reflective objects [05:19] :) [05:19] apply a light source and sketch [05:19] basic stuff you learn in art classes is something i use today [05:19] it is so helpful [05:19] :) === derek[] never attended any art class [05:21] i'm doing my first art classes now too [05:21] just grab a bunch of marbles [05:21] stick them together in something [05:21] apply a light source [05:22] and a dark background [05:22] :D [05:22] and sketch [05:22] or, if you don't like sketching [05:22] take photographs [05:22] yes, marbles are spheres though [05:22] and use this as a guide to all of your other work. [05:22] well marbles are simple [05:22] yes [05:22] it's usually a good idea to begin sketching easy things [05:22] mmhh. === klepas needs to get a glass-cast tux from somewhere... [05:23] :D [05:24] just use a more complex, shinny object [05:44] I will if I would find soe [05:44] some [05:44] just look around the house [05:45] table lamps, decorated glassware, earphones. [05:47] earphones of glass? [05:47] :) === derek[] doesn't live in a country where such stuff is common [05:47] anyway, I'll figure out something. Thanks! :) [05:47] So what're you working on? [05:50] Me. [05:50] I am working on my Suse/Ubuntu box, right now blogging and learning about klik [05:50] I've done my art for the day. [05:51] Wait, it's 2 AM. [05:51] well I guess I'll wait till sometime after I've had a sleep. ;-) [05:51] Or do you mean my role in the art team? [05:53] sorry, I get off the computer in between [05:53] what is Klik? [05:53] some KDE app I suppose [05:53] related to digital photography? [05:53] no [05:54] and yes, I meant what you were working on for Ubuntu [05:55] klik is an environment in which you can install apps, packages or whatever. For example, you want to try the bleeding edge of Inkscape, on your system without actually installing it, ruining dependencies, without access to root, without overwriting the stable copy of Inkscape. [05:55] That's klik [05:56] with a simple click on a website you could "copy-install" and run such an application [05:56] this simple "installation" did not affect in any way the stability of your base system [05:57] Interesting [05:57] Or you can run the latest official release of Krita, while at the same timeCan you imagine that you could run the latest official Krita release side by side with Boudewijn's code from last night, without the two versions interfering with each other? [05:57] ack. [05:57] i meant to edit that [05:57] :) [05:57] stupid keyboard. *ggg* :-) [05:57] it runs under KDE [05:57] and what are you working on for Ubuntu-art? [05:58] Kubuntu/Ubuntu might have shipped support for it in Dapper [05:58] for Ubuntu-art. [05:58] Well I usually make a wallpaper once every 2 weeks [05:58] and other miscellany in between [05:59] and I help admin over at art.ubuntu.com [05:59] otherwise I just stick around the mailing list and IRC channel helping anyone out who wants help I guess. :-) [06:03] How about yourself? :) [06:03] sorry, I was away again [06:03] hm [06:03] I'm new here [06:04] Well then, welcome aboard. :) [06:04] :) [06:04] Thank you! [06:04] and I'm learning.. and have to learn a lot [06:06] Do you know of any good 2D animation app for linux , corresponding to Flash in windoze? === mpathy [n=mpathy@ACB5CBB4.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [06:10] Sadly not, sorry [06:10] try the GAP package for The GIMP [06:11] animation package for The GIMP [06:11] have yet to try it [06:11] hi there.. [06:12] Moin mpathy [06:12] sorry hadnt the time yesterday, and today again not to realize this mockup. can do it this weekend..? [06:12] Was ist die zeit in Deutschland momentan? [06:12] 18:12 [06:12] Kein problem :) [06:12] Ich bin IMMER noch in der Arbeit und muss nachher bei Bekannten vorbei :( [06:13] Guten Abend mpathy [06:13] Hey, dieses ist ein hobbie. Kein problem. :-) [06:13] klepas, ok. Yes, I've heard of GAP. [06:15] here are some examples of GAP work -- http://jimmac.musichall.cz/banners.php?banner=Ximian === derek[] looks [06:15] klepas: But I WANTED IT :) [06:15] klepas, do you speak German? [06:16] Ja, ich bin Deutscher. Lebe seit 8 jahre hir in 'down under' - Canberra (hauptstadt) von Australien. [06:17] "bin Deutscher" means you are German? [06:17] and what is "Lebe"? [06:17] Oh, sorry! [06:18]