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| Burgundavia | jbailey, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=70266 | 07:45 |
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| ajmitch | the mysterious ubuntu-faqguide? | 07:59 |
| Burgundavia | no idea | 07:59 |
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| mdke | hi | 08:40 |
| ajmitch | hi mdke | 08:41 |
| mdke | how are things? | 08:41 |
| ajmitch | good | 08:41 |
| mdke | rob^, no changing anything in the faqguide now ;) | 08:49 |
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| mdke | jbailey, you rock, thanks for doing all those translations | 08:53 |
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| jsgotangco | hi mdke | 09:40 |
| mdke | hello mate | 09:41 |
| jsgotangco | i had a long chat with JaneW about this last night | 09:42 |
| mdke | ok i had a chat with mdz | 09:42 |
| mdke | he said that JaneW was confused | 09:42 |
| mdke | i don't know whether they are changing the doc or not! | 09:42 |
| mdke | you know what is going on? | 09:43 |
| jsgotangco | i have no idea either | 09:43 |
| jsgotangco | i'll be very very pissed if they changed the doc | 09:44 |
| mdke | me too | 09:45 |
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| mdke | i have busted my ass with the translations | 09:45 |
| jsgotangco | well yes | 09:45 |
| jsgotangco | and the translator's effort as well | 09:45 |
| jsgotangco | so i hope they won't change it | 09:45 |
| jsgotangco | and just plan ahead | 09:45 |
| mdke | me too | 09:45 |
| mdke | jbailey has also put in a lot of work | 09:46 |
| mdke | as from last night, the translations should be in breezy | 09:46 |
| jsgotangco | i wasn't able to stay long yesterday because my wife's uncle died and we had to go | 09:47 |
| mdke | ouch | 09:47 |
| mdke | sorry to hear that | 09:47 |
| jsgotangco | im actually away but i manage to find an open wifi router | 09:47 |
| jsgotangco | i'm actually almost near the roof at the moment | 09:47 |
| jsgotangco | hehe | 09:47 |
| jsgotangco | mdke, np mate, the guy was very very old and bedridden for the past months | 09:48 |
| mdke | ok | 09:48 |
| jsgotangco | mdke, these last minute changes only show how much planning are dedicated to docs by ubuntu itself :) | 09:50 |
| mdke | indeed | 09:53 |
| mdke | well to be fair, the whole distro has had last minute changes | 09:53 |
| jsgotangco | well yes of course | 09:53 |
| jsgotangco | we had a rough development cycle | 09:54 |
| jsgotangco | me and sean were talking about it 2 days ago over jabber | 09:54 |
| mdke | have you updated recently? I'm interested in knowing whether the translations are working | 09:54 |
| jsgotangco | im updating now | 09:55 |
| jsgotangco | i have a localised system at home and will try it when i get back | 09:55 |
| mdke | cool | 09:56 |
| mdke | ok i have to get to work | 09:56 |
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| jbailey | g'm | 02:10 |
| jjesse | good morning | 02:12 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | wb | 02:12 |
| mdke | hey jbailey | 02:13 |
| mdke | jbailey, awesome work yesterday. Today brings a couple of bugs in ubuntu-docs | 02:13 |
| jbailey | mdke: I know about the entity errors. Any others? | 02:13 |
| jbailey | I also still couldn't get pt to work right although pt_BR does. | 02:14 |
| mdke | jbailey, the other one I filed is the erroneous name for the faqguide | 02:14 |
| jbailey | Err. | 02:14 |
| jbailey | Did I get it wrong, or are you proposing a string change? =) | 02:14 |
| mdke | no, no | 02:15 |
| mdke | jbailey, the omf file | 02:15 |
| jbailey | Right. | 02:15 |
| mdke | jbailey, we didn't like the word "unofficial" | 02:15 |
| jbailey | But that's still a string. | 02:15 |
| mdke | ah | 02:15 |
| mdke | not allowed? | 02:15 |
| jbailey | Almost certainly. | 02:15 |
| mdke | i changed it and committed, so better undo it if that is a problem | 02:15 |
| mdke | the "unofficial" thing was a hangup from the hoary version | 02:16 |
| jbailey | 'k | 02:16 |
| jbailey | Ah, yeah. | 02:16 |
| mdke | it's a problem? you can't upload that? | 02:16 |
| jbailey | Right. The deadline for DocumentationStringFreeze was Sept 8. | 02:17 |
| jbailey | I'd get larted for doing it now. | 02:17 |
| mdke | jbailey, although taking a flexible interpretation of that freeze, it was to enable translations to be done. The omf files are not getting translated | 02:17 |
| jbailey | Although many of them already are. | 02:18 |
| mdke | really? | 02:18 |
| jbailey | Yeah. | 02:18 |
| mdke | that must be from hoary too i guess | 02:18 |
| jbailey | Yeah. | 02:18 |
| mdke | ok your call on that | 02:18 |
| jbailey | And if I had been clever I could've done the ones last night. | 02:18 |
| jbailey | I think the string also appears in the .xml file | 02:18 |
| jbailey | So I should be able to pick up the translation from there. | 02:19 |
| mdke | i doubt it | 02:19 |
| jbailey | Not the 'Unofficial' one. | 02:19 |
| jbailey | But the 'About Ubuntu' does. | 02:19 |
| mdke | oh yeah sure | 02:19 |
| mdke | i still don't think the string freeze applies to those omf files | 02:19 |
| mdke | but i'll leave it with you | 02:20 |
| mdke | it's not a major issue, the entity thing is major | 02:20 |
| jbailey | Right. | 02:20 |
| jbailey | The Entity thing is a bug. | 02:20 |
| jbailey | I can fix that now. =) | 02:20 |
| mdke | what is up with that? | 02:20 |
| mdke | global.ent is in the wrong place? | 02:20 |
| jbailey | Right. | 02:20 |
| jbailey | It's looking for things in | 02:20 |
| jbailey | "../../common" | 02:20 |
| mdke | yeah | 02:21 |
| mdke | ok, the other bug is that the legal stuff doesn't show up in the faqguide | 02:21 |
| jbailey | I have to look up if there's a search base or something I can use. | 02:21 |
| jbailey | Likfe the FDL and such? | 02:21 |
| mdke | yah | 02:21 |
| jbailey | Symptom of problem #1 | 02:21 |
| jbailey | =) | 02:21 |
| mdke | it's in this bit: | 02:21 |
| mdke | <xi:include href="../../../common/C/ccbysa.xml" xmlns:xi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XInclude"/> | 02:21 |
| mdke | <xi:include href="../../../common/C/fdl.xml" xmlns:xi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XInclude"/> | 02:21 |
| mdke | <!-- &cc-by-sa; | 02:21 |
| mdke | &fdl; --> | 02:22 |
| jbailey | Your best bet if you want that string changed is to put an item in for the TB next Tuesday | 02:22 |
| mdke | same bug really | 02:22 |
| mdke | the "unofficial" string? | 02:22 |
| jbailey | Get them to rule on what's covered by StringFreeze and what's not. | 02:22 |
| jbailey | Right. | 02:22 |
| mdke | ok | 02:22 |
| mdke | will do | 02:22 |
| mdke | how about the legal bug, is that fixable? | 02:22 |
| segfault | i installed the new ubuntu-docs today | 02:26 |
| segfault | it showed pt_BR ok, however there was no ubuntu image, when i clicked in "About Ubuntu" | 02:27 |
| segfault | besides, we should tell people to add their translations of "About Ubuntu" in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTranslations | 02:28 |
| mdke | jbailey, i can confirm that ^^ | 02:28 |
| mdke | missing image bug | 02:28 |
| jbailey | Right. | 02:28 |
| jbailey | I'll see if I can fix that. | 02:28 |
| segfault | since it looks like they'll freeze that today | 02:28 |
| jbailey | segfault: Too late for more translations. Freeze was yesterday | 02:29 |
| segfault | humm, Mirv told me that was still in time | 02:29 |
| mdke | yeah you can do them | 02:29 |
| mdke | segfault, it applies to translations of .desktop files only | 02:29 |
| mdke | not docs | 02:29 |
| segfault | is that possible to have a translated image of Ubuntu in pt_BR? | 02:30 |
| jbailey | Probably not at this point, sorry. | 02:30 |
| mdke | no, best to use the original image | 02:30 |
| jbailey | We have no way of really doing translated images. | 02:30 |
| segfault | mdke: sure, but since people translated the about-ubuntu doc, i guess they would like to se the desktop entry translated too | 02:30 |
| mdke | segfault, yes, that is up to them, I have no way to communicate this further | 02:31 |
| segfault | np | 02:31 |
| jbailey | Time for usual morning prep. bbiab | 02:34 |
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| jsgotangco | mdke: =) | 05:14 |
| jsgotangco | hey jbailey | 05:21 |
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| jsgotangco | jbailey: ping? | 05:38 |
| jbailey | jsgotangco: Pong. | 05:39 |
| jsgotangco | jbailey: did something bad happen again? | 05:39 |
| jbailey | jsgotangco: Dude, it's software development. | 05:39 |
| jbailey | Something bad is *always* happening. =) | 05:39 |
| jsgotangco | because im getting the smackdown from ogra and i have no idea what happened | 05:39 |
| jbailey | Eh? Where from? | 05:40 |
| jsgotangco | ogra: jsgotangco, i'm pretty annoyed that i have to redo the edubuntu-artwork package completely and i didnt have time planned for that... there were heavy changes to this doc that split it up into several other documents ... | 05:40 |
| jbailey | Lemme ask him and find out what's up... | 05:41 |
| jsgotangco | because i have no clue really | 05:41 |
| jsgotangco | we did our part | 05:42 |
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| jsgotangco | hi jjesse | 06:03 |
| jjesse | hello jsgotangco | 06:03 |
| jbailey | Anyone here care about a change I'm proposing for the files? Right now we look for images and such in "../..", etc.. | 06:30 |
| jbailey | I'm thinking that I will replace that with a ROOTPATH entity | 06:31 |
| jbailey | That way it can be changed between local generation and package generation. | 06:31 |
| jsgotangco | it makes things easier huh | 06:32 |
| jbailey | I think it will. | 06:32 |
| jbailey | Or it could be the whole path is better. | 06:32 |
| jbailey | so &imagepath; | 06:33 |
| jsgotangco | does it still require locales to have their own copies? | 06:33 |
| jbailey | Or something like that. | 06:33 |
| jbailey | Tell me what the right thing is. =) | 06:33 |
| jbailey | I can easily take the &language; out of the string. | 06:34 |
| jbailey | I don't know if I can make it pick dynamically if an image is either localised or not. | 06:34 |
| jbailey | Right now we have things lke: | 06:34 |
| jbailey | <imagedata fileref="../../images/&language;/UbuntuLogo.png" format="PNG"/> | 06:34 |
| jsgotangco | yes | 06:35 |
| jbailey | What would you like it to be? | 06:36 |
| jsgotangco | what is your recommendation? I'd rather have it just simply /images/foo or at least ./images/foo | 06:37 |
| jbailey | Sure. It depends if the images are common or not. | 06:39 |
| jbailey | I need to grab food. Will you be around in 30m or so? | 06:39 |
| jsgotangco | sure | 06:40 |
| jsgotangco | i'll wait | 06:40 |
| jbailey | Thanks, sorry. I realised that I hadn't had lunch and was getting spacy | 06:40 |
| jsgotangco | no problem | 06:41 |
| jsgotangco | im trying to learn esperanto | 06:41 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 06:41 |
| mdke | jsgotangco, sup | 06:49 |
| mdke | jdub, pong? | 06:49 |
| jdub | mdke: the about page in docteam svn is mark's text, innit? | 06:49 |
| mdke | jdub, yes, the one in the breezy branch | 06:49 |
| mdke | jdub, y you ask? | 06:49 |
| jdub | yeah | 06:50 |
| jdub | tops | 06:50 |
| jdub | just checking | 06:50 |
| mdke | putting it back in -artwork? | 06:50 |
| jdub | lord no | 06:50 |
| jdub | :-) | 06:50 |
| mdke | phew | 06:50 |
| jsgotangco | hehe | 06:50 |
| jdub | more defending my arse | 06:50 |
| mdke | jdub, ah | 06:50 |
| mdke | mark wrote it | 06:50 |
| mdke | we did a few typo corrections | 06:50 |
| jsgotangco | yes | 06:50 |
| mdke | otherwise it is all his | 06:50 |
| mdke | :) | 06:50 |
| jsgotangco | he played around with the existing test and added more stuff | 06:51 |
| jsgotangco | mdke: nothing much just messing around with rosetta | 06:51 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 06:51 |
| jsgotangco | i actually translated the doc to en_UK | 06:51 |
| jsgotangco | hehhee | 06:51 |
| mdke | argh | 06:51 |
| mdke | is tagalog done? | 06:51 |
| jsgotangco | yes | 06:51 |
| mdke | cool | 06:51 |
| mdke | did it make it into the distro? | 06:52 |
| jsgotangco | afaik yes | 06:52 |
| mdke | cool | 06:52 |
| mdke | pm btw | 06:52 |
| jsgotangco | mdke: can you review how good my en_UK is | 06:55 |
| jsgotangco | hehe | 06:55 |
| mdke | i can't confirm translations in en_UK | 06:55 |
| jsgotangco | there's a team???? | 06:55 |
| mdke | i'm not in the group, if there is one | 06:55 |
| mdke | doubt there is one | 06:55 |
| jsgotangco | haha | 06:55 |
| mdke | i hope not, anyhow | 06:56 |
| mdke | i'll have a look later | 06:56 |
| jsgotangco | hehe don't take it seriously | 06:56 |
| jsgotangco | after all rob^ started translating to en_AU | 06:56 |
| mdke | ;) | 06:56 |
| mdke | gtg home | 06:57 |
| mdke | laters | 06:57 |
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| jsgotangco | jbailey: i gotta sleep | 07:30 |
| jsgotangco | feel free to email the list if no one here can answer/help you | 07:31 |
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