[12:00] <dell500> np
[12:00] <Tachyon> [LethAL] : Yes, through System -> Administration -> Printers.  I try to Add a Printer, selecting a Network Printer and then Windows (SMB)
[12:00] <Tachyon> *SMB )
[12:00] <sobersabre> dell500, can you send this to the devels ? with bug-buddy ?
[12:00] <[LethAL] > And you give it a wind0ze ip?
[12:00] <dell500> i just realized that all the memory was leaking... trying to figure out where
[12:00] <dell500> not right now, my cable is really clogged right now
[12:01] <dell500> loading pages takes a minute or so, sucks, i need dsl
[12:01] <Tachyon> Yes, I give it the IP address of the machine.  It is supposedly the correct one, it's the address I get when I run ipconfig
[12:01] <_iGadget_> does anyone know if Breezy will support the ATI mobility radeon express 200 graphics chip?
[12:01] <selinium> Hi guys, how do i stop port 22 from showing in a port scan with firestarter?
[12:02] <_iGadget_> ATI sends me straight to HP when I search for drivers
[12:02] <_iGadget_> and HP only provides them for windoze :s
[12:02] <selinium> !ati
[12:02] <ubotu> ati is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[12:02] <_iGadget_> selinium: stop SSH? ;)
[12:02] <selinium> lol
[12:02] <nalioth> selinium: be careful with that
[12:03] <nalioth> selinium: if you muck up 22 you wont be able to ssh anymore
[12:03] !lilo:*! <xTs> Hi, could [you]  do a wallop message for me? The project lomoco needs help of a usb programmer. The people of #lomoco are trying to get the actuel logitech mices controlled. They've got problems deciphering the protocoll and with the USB programming.
[12:04] !lilo:*! <xTs> ...could you do a wallop for the #lomoco project? ( http://lomoco.linux-gamers.net/ )
[12:04] <_iGadget_> selinium: I know about the binary ATI driver... I'm just wondering if it will support my mobility 200 chip (according to ATI, it won't)
[12:04] <selinium> hi nalioth, I know and I wouldn't want that! I have pretty secure passwords.. But .... I turned on ICMP filtering but the port scan still see 22
[12:05] <selinium> _iGadget_, I don't know i just knew there was info there! I use nVidia
[12:05] <_iGadget_> selinium: okay, thanks
[12:05] <nxv_> can i insert something in .forward for mails fetchmails gets to be inserted into my dovecot mailbox?
[12:05] <Jason-Bourne> hmm
[12:06] <_iGadget_> selinium: I read an article about 'port knocking' some time ago... maybe that's what you're looking for?
[12:06] <spanglesontoast> something wrong with firefox plz help
[12:06] <spanglesontoast> ok dw
[12:06] <_iGadget_> (concept of only opening ports after a 'magic packet' has been received, the so called 'port knock')
[12:07] <kevogod> spanglesontoast, Yes.
[12:07] <selinium> _iGadget_, I'll take a look
[12:07] <[LethAL] > _iGadget_, so will I... :P
[12:07] <nxv_> or more common i am searching for an easy way to collect my mails from different accounts and insert them into my dovecot imap server
[12:07] <kevogod> Anyone know if there is a problem with the libgda2-3 package for Breezy through apt? libdga2-3 and libgda2-common are locked and cannot be installed as they are not found.
[12:08] <_iGadget_> Lethal: be reading the article, or knocking his port? :p
[12:08] <xiaogil> what is the command line to repare the package postfix which is broken
[12:08] <xiaogil> ?
[12:08] <[LethAL] > _iGadget_, the former
[12:09] <selinium> [LethAL] , _iGadget_ : I'm not that kind of boy! :)
[12:09] <[LethAL] > ?
[12:09] <_iGadget_> selinium: what kind of boy are you referring to, actually? :s
[12:09] <_iGadget_> ;)
[12:10] <selinium> [LethAL] , knocking my port... Ermm... :)
[12:10] <[LethAL] > >.<
[12:10] <_iGadget_> mmmmmkay
[12:11] <[LethAL] > Not that I have anything wrong with those type of peoples ;)
[12:11] <_iGadget_> so... selinium... tell me again about those ports of yours... :D
[12:12] <selinium> _iGadget_, I think this joke has run it's course! ;D
[12:12] <_iGadget_> ;)
[12:13] <_iGadget_> darn
[12:13] <_iGadget_> only 6 hrs of sleep remaining
[12:13] <[LethAL] > lol
[12:13] <[LethAL] > I have 8
[12:13] <_iGadget_> and I have to go :s
[12:13] <[LethAL] > :(
[12:13] <Beco> how much space does ubuntu take? approx
[12:13] <_iGadget_> I'll rejoin ASAP... It's been fun ;)
[12:14] <selinium> _iGadget_, Good night!
[12:14] <_iGadget_> you too :)
[12:14] <irvin> hello
[12:14] <[LethAL] > :)
[12:14] <[LethAL] > Beco, 1.2GB with a GUI, about 300MB without
[12:14] <[LethAL] > Roughly anyway
[12:15] <Beco> 1.8 on the wiki..
[12:15] <Beco> hm
[12:15] <Beco> thanks
[12:15] <irvin> what's the best way to deploy ubuntu on multiple computers with different HDD specs?
[12:15] <[LethAL] > Beco, possibly that then
[12:16] <Fackamato> I installed a font, but _every_ software which tries to use it crashes.
[12:16] <Fackamato> How do I remove a font?
[12:16] <[LethAL] > !fonts
[12:16] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[12:16] <[LethAL] > Try deleting it from th e fonts
[12:16] <[LethAL] > directory... wherever that is
[12:17] <Fackamato> yeah, where's that
[12:17] <selinium> Fackamato, what is the font called?
[12:18] <Fackamato> selinium:  let me check (by selecting various fonts for use in system > preferences > font and see when it crashes
[12:18] <Fackamato> =
[12:18] <[LethAL] > Fackamato, System, Preferences, Fonts, click Details and then 'go to fonts folder'
[12:18] <Fackamato> maybe tahoma
[12:18] <Fackamato> yep
[12:18] <Fackamato> tahoma crashes things
[12:18] <Fackamato> I just delete it?
[12:19] <Fackamato> where are the fonts on the filesystem
[12:19] <Fackamato> can't delete font as non-root
[12:19] <mkv> can anyone help me with a preview-release to colony5 upgrade query?
[12:20] <nalioth> Fackamato: leave your system fonts alone
[12:20] <nalioth> Fackamato: you'll break something if you delete the wrong one(s)
[12:20] <Fackamato> nalioth: it's already broken
[12:20] <Fackamato> things who try to use tahoma crashes
[12:20] <inc|freaky> what is the new package manager in breeze called?
[12:20] <Fackamato> I'm running breezy btw.
[12:21] <inc|freaky> breezy i mean ;)
[12:21] <mkv> can I "upgrade" to colony5 simply by updating everything using apt / synaptic ... or do I have to re-install ?
[12:21] <nalioth> Fackamato: /usr/share/fonts
[12:22] <dooglus> inc|freaky: do you mean 'gnome-app-install'
[12:22] <Fackamato> how do I reinitialize all fonts
[12:22] <Fackamato> like, redo them
[12:22] <Fackamato> somehow, after deleting something
[12:22] <Fackamato> uh, yeah
[12:22] <Fackamato> how?.p
[12:22] <seth_k> mkv, if you have the breezy sources.list already, just do a dist-upgrade
[12:22] <dooglus> Fackamato: sudo apt-get --reinstall install
[12:23] <Fackamato> hm
[12:23] <Fackamato> what do I reinstall?
[12:23] <inc|freaky> dooglus: no ;)
[12:23] <seth_k> inc|freaky, gnome-app-install for Ubuntu and adept for Kubuntu
[12:23] <Fackamato> all fonts
[12:23] <dooglus> inc|freaky: so what then?
[12:23] <inc|freaky> yea adept i meant ;)
[12:23] <inc|freaky> dooglus: adept ;D
[12:24] <dooglus> inc|freaky: adept's in breezy?
[12:24] <mkv> seth_k: thank you ... I installed breezy preview-release, and have everything up to date according to apt ... so I figure that means I effectively have colony5 :-/
[12:24] <seth_k> mkv, that's correct
[12:24] <inc|freaky> dooglus: afaik yes
[12:24] <seth_k> dooglus, yes
[12:24] <inc|freaky> i dont like kynaptic it has too less information
[12:24] <seth_k> dooglus, it is now part of kubuntu-desktop
[12:25] <dooglus> inc|freaky: not by default it isn't.  it's in the repositories, but not installed by default
[12:25] <seth_k> dooglus, see ^, it's now default
[12:25] <dooglus> kubuntu-desktop isn't installed by default though
[12:25] <seth_k> for a Kubuntu disc? sure it is
[12:25] <seth_k> for Ubuntu, no.
[12:25] <ali4728> Newbie needs Help dependency problem with apt-get hula
[12:25] <inc|freaky> dooglus: im on 5.4 im using kubuntu and there is no adept when i do apt-cache search adept
[12:25] <dooglus> seth_k: we're talking about ubuntu breezy I thought
[12:25] <seth_k> dooglus, inc|freaky is talking about Kubuntu methinks
[12:26] <inc|freaky> yes i am ;)
[12:26] <dooglus> oh, ok.  isn't there a room for people like that?  ;)
[12:26] <inc|freaky> yes it is
[12:26] <inc|freaky> *there is
[12:26] <beruic> How do I get a Java Runtime Enviroment for Firefox? Is it enough to install java-common?
[12:26] <Tachyon> I've got my printer working now, using Unix LPD instead of Samba.  But now the test page won't print; it's stuck in the queue and not doing anything. . . .
[12:27] <irvin> beruic, its j2re1.4
[12:27] <inc|freaky> can i get adept now somewhere? i dont want to run breezy yet though
[12:27] <beruic> I'll try...
[12:27] <beruic> Running Hoary by the way...
[12:27] <seth_k> inc|freaky, yes there is a hoary repo for it. Let me find it for you
[12:28] <beruic> k
[12:28] <[linner] > hey guys i downloaded and installed kubuntu-desktop ... do I need to stop x and restart it to show the new menu system?
[12:28] <esac_> anybody have any suggestions for a kickass c# editor for linux/gnome ? ive tried kdevelop, anjuta and eclipse and they all suck (imho)
[12:28] <Ninjew> OK is anybody else having strange problems with the skge kernel module?
[12:28] <seth_k> inc|freaky, http://web.ekhis.org/adept.html
[12:28] <esac_> [linner] : no, just log out, click "sessions", select KDE, and then log in
[12:28] <[linner] > ok... esac_  you rock :)
[12:28] <[linner] > thank you
[12:28] <[linner] > brb
[12:29] <wolverian> I've installed xfonts-terminus, but emacs can't see it. anyone know why?
[12:29] <inc|freaky> seth_k: thx :)
[12:29] <esac_> wolverian: did you close all instances of emacs and then re-open it ? ive found that terminal had that issue when i installed terminus
[12:29] <signbarn> how do i change the permissions on my external firewire partitions that ubuntu auto mounts for me?
[12:29] <signbarn> i want to share the partitions on the network
[12:30] <wolverian> esac_: yes, I did. additionally, xlsfonts/xfontsel can't see terminus either, but gvim can.
[12:30] <esac_> signbarn: try "man mount" and "man fstab". look for the uid, gid, or umask options for filesystems
[12:30] <esac_> wolverian: no idea then, sorry
[12:30] <wolverian> esac_: it's okay, thanks :)
[12:30] <sambagirl> is firewall automatically turend on for apache?
[12:31] <esac_> wolverian: obviously vim is superior since it picks up the terminus font :). stop using emacs :)
[12:31] <inc|freaky> seth_k: i cant use it it would uninstall kubuntu-desktop
[12:31] <signbarn> esac_: what do i do with this information when i get it?
[12:31] <wolverian> esac_: I'm only using it for haskell, where it's a bit more pleasant than vim (not much, frankly :)
[12:32] <seth_k> inc|freaky, nothing wrong with that
[12:32] <Chambers`> hi guys, can anyone tell me if there's a gui app for par2 files?
[12:32] <esac_> signbarn: modify your fstab with those options
[12:32] <sn0n> hey guys... anyone else have problems with a speedy system clock ?
[12:32] <seth_k> inc|freaky, it conflicts kynaptic which r-depends kubuntu-desktop
[12:32] <seth_k> inc|freaky, let's take it to #kubuntu ;)
[12:32] <sn0n> like.. my computer's clock likes to go a lil fast.. like as much as 45+ minuts a day..
[12:32] <inc|freaky> awkay
[12:32] <signbarn> esac_ the firewire drive stuff isn't in my /etc/fstab
[12:32] <Blissex> sn0n: pretty common.
[12:32] <sn0n> how do i fix it?
[12:32] <sn0n> lol
[12:32] <wolverian> oh.
[12:33] <Ninjew> hmm maybe i just have a bad nic
[12:33] <sn0n> when im booting up..
[12:33] <sn0n> it dont connect to the ntp.timethingorwateveritscalled
[12:33] <jcohen85> after using boot-admin, every time i update my kernel in breezy (every few days), my windows xp selection is deleted
[12:33] <jcohen85> how do i stop this from happening?
[12:33] <wolverian> esac_: dpkg -L says xfonts-terminus installs into /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc, but my xorg.conf looks in usr/share/X11/fonts/misc. this is using breezy. is that correct, do you know?
[12:33] <Blissex> sn0n: there are various time adjustement techniques... One is purely local, the other require connecting to a NTP source.
[12:33] <sn0n> jcohen85, i got the perfect answer!!! dont use windows ;-)
[12:33] <sn0n> ok. tnx Blissex
[12:34] <esac_> wolverian: no idea
[12:34] <sn0n> no wonder!!!
[12:34] <sn0n> ntp isnt installed
[12:34] <sn0n> how'd the hell that happen
[12:34] <Blissex> sn0n: 'man 8 adjtimex' described the various options. There are also HOWTOs around.
[12:34] <linner> wow kubuntu looks so cool
[12:34] <sn0n> :: smacks breezy ::
[12:34] <wolverian> hmm. I think the former is legacy from hoary
[12:34] <signbarn> i used to dual boot ubuntu/windows xp. now i dual boot hoary/breezy and eventually i'll only have breezy :-)
[12:34] <wolverian> ln -s :)
[12:35] <MachineScrew> can I add more places on the side pane in nautilus
[12:35] <snorks> sn0n: whats the problem?
[12:35] <sn0n> eh.. my times fast..
[12:35] <sn0n> since i updated to breezy from hoary
[12:35] <sn0n> apparently its because ntp didnt get installed with the pgrade..
[12:35] <WhiteRabbit> thats not breezy
[12:35] <WhiteRabbit> that sounds more like your bios battery or a possible fortelling of hardware failure
[12:36] <WhiteRabbit> I'd go with the bio's battery going bad as my first choice
[12:36] <snorks> sn0n: you can install it from the set time and date feature (upright corner of your gnome panel)
[12:36] <sn0n> dont tell me that WhiteRabbit
[12:36] <sn0n> lol
[12:36] <MachineScrew> how I add more places on the side pane in nautilus
[12:36] <sn0n> snorks, thats what i just did
[12:36] <snorks> sn0n: ahh
[12:36] <pluffsy> I'm trying to just take my first look at emacs and I have some trouble getting the system used for the commands. like some commands are c-x followed by a character. to me it looks random to what commands start with c-x but I guess there are all part of some logic group. what group?
[12:36] <WhiteRabbit> sn0n, although you could have it sync every so often & just not look back until theres smoke
[12:36] <NightLord> Hmm, small problem with GNOME in breezy
[12:36] <snorks> sn0n: you wanna add it to bootup script?
[12:36] <sn0n> lol.. WhiteRabbit thats what ima have to do.. im a poor college student
[12:36] <sn0n> lol
[12:37] <NightLord> the go to desktop and wastebasket icons on the bottom panels are just red Xs like from IE
[12:37] <sn0n> brb
[12:37] <WhiteRabbit> sn0n, Fantasy football will be your new best friend this session of cashless funds for new hardware!
[12:37] <MachineScrew> how I add more places on the side pane in nautilus
[12:38] <chavo> MachineScrew, they are the same as in your filechooser bookmarks, look at ~/.gtk-bookmarks
[12:38] <NightLord> any ideas?
[12:39] <snorks> 00:36 < NightLord> Hmm, small problem with GNOME in breezy
[12:39] <snorks> 00:38 < NightLord> any ideas?
[12:39] <snorks> sorry sir
[12:39] <NightLord> erm...
[12:39] <snorks> sorry man
[12:39] <kumakun> Question: If I wanted to roll back to hoary, could i just switch my repositories back to the hoary ones and run an apt-get upgrade?
[12:39] <snorks> i missed the part
[12:39] <NightLord> no kum
[12:39] <snorks> NightLord: I have no idea. Try to killall gnome-panel
[12:40] <Tachyon> Hmm . . . it appears the printer (set up as UNIX LPD, connected to an XP machine on the network) isn't printing because "Ready: Unable to connect to printer; will retry in 30 seconds...: Connection timed out"
[12:40] <MachineScrew> ok
[12:40] <kumakun> So the only way to roll back is to wipe and reinstall?
[12:40] <snorks> Tachyon: might be a cups/smb issue. I got no idea, but perhaps try to check the smb.conf
[12:40] <linner> hmmm... Kubuntu looks so different from regular Ubunut
[12:40] <linner> Ubuntu
[12:41] <snorks> Tachyon: but I really have no idea
[12:41] <NightLord> ok, I wanna install a printer which si located on a computer on my network, running XP, how do I do it? Since I've never had luck with it
[12:42] <Tachyon> snorks: Yeah, I have no clue what the problem would be in smb.conf :/
[12:43] <snorks> Tachyon: i dont know if its a cups issue on yoru comp, or something you need to fix on the xp comp
[12:43] <MachineScrew> i don't have .gtk-bookmarks
[12:44] <Tachyon> snorks: I've set the printer to be shared on XP, and I can ping the IP Address of the machine.
[12:45] <snorks> Tachyon: hm ok. do you use cups? im not even sure if the comp that does not have the printer connected even needs cups
[12:45] <Fackamato> Hi
[12:45] <Fackamato> trying to install php on apache 1 on ubuntu breezy
[12:45] <Fackamato> I apt-get it all, done, but php doesn't work
[12:45] <Fackamato> do I need to do additional things, manually?
[12:46] <MachineScrew> how I add more places on the side pane in nautilus
[12:46] <remyforb1s777> does cups work with a usb printer
[12:46] <Fackamato> remyforb1s777: ytes
[12:46] <remyforb1s777> cool
[12:46] <seth_k> Fackamato, you need libapache-mod-php4
[12:46] <Tachyon> snorks: No.  I tried using Samba, but that didn't work at all; so I tried setting it up as a "UNIX Printer (LPD)"
[12:46] <seth_k> Fackamato, even if you get php4, the lib is what makes apache talk to PHP
[12:46] <Fackamato> aha
[12:47] <[linner] > does anyone have the URL for the nightly builds of Kubuntu?
[12:47] <Tachyon> snorks: Now it's appearing in the administration, but it gives at evil connection error.
[12:47] <Fackamato> how do I add a user to mysql?
[12:48] <cafuego_> Fackamato: via mysqladmin or via running a GRANT query as root.
[12:48] <seth_k> Fackamato, sudo apt-get install mysql-admin and use that
[12:48] <Fackamato> thanks
[12:48] <Fackamato> yes
[12:49] <martinhj> what is the kernel parameter to keep it quite under boot time? (I think it would be nicer with as little as possible output to screen before I see usplash)
[12:49] <cafuego_> quiet
[12:49] <MachineScrew> how I add more places on the side pane in nautilus
[12:49] <Fackamato> seth_k: but to admin mysql I need a user
[12:49] <Fackamato> I don't have an mysql user yet
[12:50] <cafuego_> Fackamato: yes, there is the mysql root user.
[12:50] <seth_k> Fackamato, it should be installed with a user "root"
[12:50] <MachineScrew> how I add more places on the side pane in nautilus
[12:50] <Fackamato> ah
[12:50] <seth_k> Fackamato, and a blank password
[12:50] <Fackamato> blank password1
[12:50] <Fackamato> that did the trick, thansk
[12:50] <martinhj> cafuego_: but the kernel-parameters.txt says "quiet=", not just "quiet"
[12:50] <martinhj> cafuego_: can I just ignore that?
[12:50] <cafuego_> martinhj: nevertheless, just 'quiet' works fine.
[12:51] <MachineScrew> how I add more places on the side pane in nautilus
[12:51] <snorks> Tachyon: i would know how to help you if you were sharing a printer on a linux machine, but unfortunately not when its on a xp machine :/
[12:51] <martinhj> cafuego_: thank you very much
[12:52] <snorks> Tachyon: good luck. I hope you get it to work. It's nice to be able to print things.
[12:52] <Tachyon> Indeed. Thanks. :/
[12:53] <MachineScrew> how I add more places on the side pane in nautilus
[12:53] <Kensey> well, that partly answers my kernel panic issue
[12:54] <cafuego_> MachineScrew: Please don't repeat quite that often.
[12:54] <Kensey> I would like to thank the geniuses who decided to make the IDE drivers be modules in Ubuntu's default kernel, thus ensuring that unless you use an initrd you can't boot :P
[12:54] <MachineScrew> ok
[12:54] <cafuego_> Kensey: Everything is a module.
[12:55] <cafuego_> Kensey: Did you mess arond with the kernel without knowing what you're doing?
[12:55] <Kensey> cafuego: some things should just be compiled into the kernel already, though.
[12:55] <chavo> MachineScrew, I anserewd your question about 20 minutes ago
[12:55] <cafuego_> Kensey: Why would my scsi machine need your filthy ide drivers compiled in? ;-)
[12:56] <kevogod> Anyone know if there is a problem with the libgda2-3 package for Breezy through apt? libdga2-3 and libgda2-common are locked and cannot be installed as they are not found.
[12:56] <Kensey> no, I've been building kernels since Debian 2.0 days.  but I was tired last night when I did the initial config and it never occurred to me that the system might module out IDE by default :P
[12:56] <beruic> Can anybody help me to install Java runtime Enviroment for Firefox?
[12:56] <MachineScrew> chavo : I don't have .gtk-browser
[12:56] <cafuego_> Kensey: Debian does that too, Ubuntu kernels are no different.
[12:56] <seth_k> beruic, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[12:57] <beruic> I spoke to one before who said that I should add the blackdown repe, but dont know how to...
[12:57] <cafuego_> Kensey: I believe initrd was decided on to offer the maximum amount of hardware support whilst still keeping the kernels manageable.
[12:57] <chavo> MachineScrew, alright, open up gedit and open up the open file dialog
[12:57] <chavo> you can add bookmarks there, these will also be placed in the nautilus places bar
[12:58] <Kensey> I guess there's an argument to be made there, but really the solution is to offer more kernel configurations to a user.
[12:58] <beruic> I'll look at the website...
[12:58] <chavo> or you can just add them to .gtk-bookmarks directly
[12:58] <Kensey> for example the whole reason I'm recompiling mine is to turn preemption off.
[12:58] <cafuego_> Kensey: Why? For prebuilt kernels the everything-as-module works fine.
[12:58] <chavo> man, and I'm a KDE user
[12:58] <MachineScrew> ok
[12:59] <Fred|Fr3d> hey... is there a command to force ubuntu to update it's time from a time server?
[12:59] <Kensey> some things like preemption can't be modules though.
[12:59] <cafuego_> Kensey: I think the idea is that when people can configure and build their own they can alsos see the initrd system is used.
[12:59] <chavo> MachineScrew, the syntax for .gtk-bookmarks is like this -> file:///usr, one per line
[12:59] <cafuego_> Kensey: You haven't been drinking before building a kernel, eh? ;-)
[01:00] <chavo> doesn't everyone?
[01:00] <Kensey> oh, I have.
[01:00] <Kensey> some kernels it was necessary...
[01:00] <cafuego_> Fred|Fr3d: Yes. Right-click the clock in the panel, click "Adjust...'
[01:00] <Kensey> if you weren't half blotto you couldn't think straight :)
[01:00] <chavo> #include beer.h
[01:00] <Fred|Fr3d> i meant via ssh
[01:01] <cafuego_> Fred|Fr3d: Yep. run 'sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org'
[01:01] <Fred|Fr3d> thanks :D
[01:01] <s3[mn] rain> Hi, is there any way I can manually save my session, instead of it saving on shutdown?
[01:02] <cafuego_> s3[mn] rain: I think you can make it ask on logout, as opposed to doing it auotmagically.
[01:02] <cafuego_> my god, _ANOTHER_ new X.
[01:03] <airfinity> if i installed another distro on top of ubuntu, and now grub runs frm that partition, is it ok if i wipe the new distro, and still have the ubuntu grub work?
[01:03] <WhiteRabbit> as long as grub is on the mbr
[01:03] <WhiteRabbit> as long as it is just dont nuke the mbr
[01:03] <beruic> How do I add the Blackdown repo?
[01:04] <s3[mn] rain> cafuego: In the System Settings -> User Accounts -> Session Manager -> On Login section it shows "Restore manually saved session", so there must be a way to save it on demand
[01:04] <chavo> s3[mn] rain, just open up the Sessions propertie dialog and you can change it
[01:04] <Kensey> well ifup'ing the wireless interface doesn't lock my system any more :)
[01:04] <WhiteRabbit> but your goin to need to get your hands dirty & manualy edit grub for the new os
[01:04] <airfinity> i there a way to check
[01:04] <Tachyon> I've got a printer hooked up to an XP machine and want to print from Ubuntu over a network.  It's set up as an "UNIX (LPD)" printer, but I get the status message "Ready: Unable to connect to printer; will retry in 30 seconds...: Connection timed out" when I try to print something.
[01:04] <chavo> s3[mn] rain, no, it's gnome-session-properties
[01:04] <chavo> it's under Preferences menu -> Sessions
[01:04] <airfinity> the grub actually was automatically setup on there
[01:04] <WhiteRabbit> airfinity, are you talking about vmware or something by chance? or qemu or xen?
[01:05] <s3[mn] rain> chavo: Well, im on kde, maybe it will work on there
[01:05] <WhiteRabbit> airfinity, hi
[01:05] <chavo> oh I assumed  it was gnome, hold on
[01:05] <|ww1> where are the ubuntu Places -> Connect To Server -> FTP   config file.. i need it to NOT try to use passive mode
[01:05] <MachineScrew> chavo : I could also open up my home folder
[01:05] <MachineScrew> go into each dir
[01:05] <alex323> Hey all.
[01:05] <MachineScrew> and bookmark them
[01:06] <beruic> I really need someone to take me step by step on a Java Runtime Enviroment installation :'(
[01:06] <alex323> I am using Breezy. When I try to `apt-get remove firefox`, apt tries to remove packages I don't want removed.
[01:06] <alex323> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[01:06] <alex323>   firefox firefox-gnome-support libgecko2.0-cil monodevelop monodoc-manual mozilla-firefox ubuntu-desktop yelp
[01:06] <chavo> MachineScrew, aha, didn't know you could do that.
[01:06] <Kensey> Tachyon: if you're sharing the printer from XP, I suggest you start by drinking large quantities of beverages containing not less than 5% ethanol
[01:06] <alex323> Why is it trying to remove monodevelop?
[01:06] <ryufreak> how do i detect my other hard drives?
[01:06] <alex323> MonoDevelop has absolutely nothign to do with firefox.
[01:06] <MachineScrew> I just found out
[01:06] <Tachyon> Kensey: I'm unfortunately underage, tea will have to do. :/
[01:07] <linner> Just installed kubuntu-desktop.  Now all the gnome information is missing.  I'm sure it's not deleted but I need to know how to access all my Evolution data.
[01:07] <cafuego_> alex323: Some depends somewhere. Breezy *is* under development, you know?
[01:07] <|ww1> is there any config file for the connect to server entries?
[01:07] <MachineScrew> it not part of the default but it is there
[01:07] <ryufreak> kubuntu uses kde
[01:07] <Kensey> you can get plenty messed up on tea :)
[01:07] <Kensey> especially Thai iced tea
[01:07] <ryufreak> so how do i make it so i can detect my other hard drives?
[01:08] <alex323> ryufreak, Hey
[01:08] <ryufreak> hi
[01:08] <alex323> ryufreak, Are you interested in martial arts?
[01:08] <ryufreak> no
[01:08] <ryufreak> haha
[01:08] <alex323> Ahh ok
[01:08] <alex323> I was about to say.
[01:09] <alex323> "ryu" is a common term.
[01:09] <chavo> s3[mn] rain, restore manually saved session, should be what you're looking for.
[01:09] <chavo> I'm not sure though as I just have it save auto here
[01:10] <linner> chavo:  are you referring to my question?
[01:10] <remyforb1s777> ubuntu 64 freezes at login, do you all think that if i copy the xorg config file from Knoppix over to Ubuntu 64 , it will work?
[01:10] <chavo> linner, no sorry
[01:10] <s3[mn] rain> chavo: well sort of, I just cant save it manually, only when logging out/shutting down i think
[01:11] <cafuego_> linner: start gnome-settings-daemon and gconfd
[01:11] <alex323> Anyone know what's wrong with ubuntu here?
[01:11] <alex323> I am using Breezy. When I try to `apt-get remove firefox`, apt tries to remove packages I don't want removed.
[01:11] <ryufreak> how do i mount my other hard-drivesS?
[01:11] <alex323> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[01:11] <alex323>   firefox firefox-gnome-support libgecko2.0-cil monodevelop monodoc-manual mozilla-firefox ubuntu-desktop yelp
[01:11] <cafuego_> linner: the former may auto-start the latter
[01:11] <alex323> Why is it trying to remove monodevelop?
[01:11] <s3[mn] rain> alex323: what are you trying to install?
[01:11] <cafuego_> alex323: Like I said, because of a depend in one of those packages.
[01:11] <linner> cafuego:  ok... thnk you
[01:11] <linner> thank you
[01:11] <MachineScrew> chavo : the way I said only work with nautilus
[01:11] <alex323> s3[mn] rain, I am not installing anything.
[01:12] <MachineScrew> the save dilalog i also had to do
[01:12] <cafuego_> alex323; most likely, libgecko2.0-cil depends on firefox and monodevelop depends on libgecko2.0-cil
[01:12] <MachineScrew> thanks for pointing me in the right direction
[01:12] <cafuego_> alex323: Remove one, the rest comes with it. Simple fix: leave firefox.
[01:12] <linner> cafuego:  I have nothing else open besides evolution and I'm getting this output from terminal:  You can only run one xsettings manager at a time; exiting
[01:13] <alex323> cafuego, That's stupid.
[01:13] <cafuego_> linner: Is gconfd running?
[01:13] <chavo> MachineScrew, no problem. I oonly knew of it because it picked up my .gtk-bookmarks automatically
[01:13] <cafuego_> alex323: Hey, I'm not the one complaining about bugs in non-release software.
[01:13] <linner> cafuego:  I'm not sure how to find out.  Guide me?
[01:13] <cafuego_> linner: ps ax | grep gconfd
[01:13] <alex323> I don't understand now why firefox needs to be installed for monodevelop.
[01:13] <linner> cafuego:  ok
[01:14] <alex323> I understand what you've said before.
[01:14] <cafuego_> alex323: let me spell it out: "Because of a bug in the package"
[01:14] <linner> cafuego:  23319 ?        S      0:01 /usr/lib/gconf2/gconfd-2 5
[01:14] <linner> 25684 pts/0    S+     0:00 grep gconfd
[01:14] <MachineScrew> cool
[01:15] <linner> cafuego:  I'm assuming that means I am.  So which one should I terminate and how?
[01:15] <cafuego_> linner: Ok, so that's running, which means evolution *should* be able to access its settings.
[01:15] <PhilH> Hi guys
[01:15] <linner> weird
[01:15] <cafuego_> linner: Don't kill any, the first one is gconfd, the other one is your grep command.
[01:15] <linner> ok
[01:15] <ryufreak> !mount
[01:15] <ubotu> hmm... mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives
[01:15] <cafuego_> linner: gnome-settings-daemon running?
[01:16] <|ww1> anyone know how i can start the Places -> Connect to server  the ftp client in Active only mode?
[01:16] <Tachyon> Whenever I try to log into Invision Power Chat, Firefox closes on me.  This only happens in Ubuntu, not in XP, and it happens consistently.
[01:17] <cafuego_> Tachyon: Does that site have Flash on it?
[01:17] <nxv_> my fetchmail config recieves mails but the are not delivered localy, where do i have to set this up?
[01:17] <Tachyon> cafuego_: No, Invision Power Chat is a Java chat and the site has no flash on that page.
[01:18] <cafuego_> Tachyon: Probably a bug in the jre then.
[01:18] <Tachyon> cafeugo_: So is there anything I can do to fix it/report it?
[01:18] <ThePyromaniac> hey, anyone know how to make SJuicer my default CD player and not totem?
[01:19] <|ww1> how do you set the ftp client in ubuntu GUI to active only mode?
[01:19] <Fackamato> amarok owns!
[01:19] <Fackamato> the mp3 player
[01:19] <cafuego_> Tachyon: Probably not much; both that power chat and the jre are probably closed source.
[01:20] <ryufreak> anyone know how i can get my other harddrive detected?
[01:21] <ThePyromaniac> im sure amork does own mate, but when i put a CD in i want to rip it, THEN i can use amorok ^^
[01:21] <holycow> hey guys, is there a consensus of any kind out there on the type of cheapie digital camera that works well with linux?
[01:21] <holycow> or rather
[01:21] <holycow> what type of camera / digital protocol should one be looking for in a digital camera?
[01:22] <ThePyromaniac> just get one with an SD card and if u got a reader then it will work perfectly :D
[01:23] <holycow> ThePyromaniac, heh, well thats not a bad point, i wouldn't mind it being able to mount via usb tho.  i know there are variations of usb/digital camera protocol out there
[01:23] <holycow> i never understood why they would have a spec for that instead of mounting them as a block device
[01:24] <[linner] > cafuego:  ok... let me see if I can access it another way... using Kontact, is it possible to retrieve Evolution's data?
[01:24] <ThePyromaniac> holycow: i got no idea, just throwing in my 2 cents :D
[01:24] <holycow> ^5
[01:24] <holycow> :)
[01:25] <ThePyromaniac> anyone have an answer for me?
[01:26] <adjacent> ThePyromaniac: System -> prefs -> preffered apps
[01:26] <holycow> no you can't chooe it from there
[01:26] <holycow> its not an option
[01:26] <ThePyromaniac> now how did i not see that :D
[01:26] <adjacent> oh. right.
[01:26] <ThePyromaniac> adjacent well that only does web/mail/terminal :p
[01:27] <holycow> ThePyromaniac, wait for breezy
[01:27] <test34> holycow, mine, I just plug it in with an USB cable, and it is just like an USB key to the OS
[01:27] <holycow> perhaps its improved
[01:27] <ThePyromaniac> im on breezy! haha
[01:27] <adjacent> doh. its removable drives and media prefs
[01:27] <adjacent> multimedia, then change the command for audio cds
[01:27] <adjacent> i knew it was in that menu
[01:28] <holycow> test34, well actually digital cameras don't work like that.  most usb devices are mounted as block devices with a fat file system.  digital cameras are starting to use some bizarro digital camera protocol and not mount as digital cams
[01:28] <ThePyromaniac> it says sound-juicer -d %d
[01:28] <ThePyromaniac> but when i put one in i get totem...
[01:28] <adjacent> wierd. let me try
[01:28] <holycow> adjacent, heh, weird i didn't see that
[01:28] <JustinHH> hello
[01:28] <holycow> thats such an odd place to put it
[01:29] <test34> holycow, well, I just tell you that my camera is like that.
[01:29] <holycow> test34, *nod* lucky you, i get this sneaky feeling thats a feature that we wont find too often
[01:29] <test34> holycow, I have an option to make it work like that, it's an HP
[01:30] <holycow> test34, what model?
[01:30] <adjacent> ThePyromaniac: funny. mine does it too
[01:30] <test34> holycow, m305
[01:30] <adjacent> ThePyromaniac: might be a bug
[01:31] <ThePyromaniac> perhaps, you want to report it or should i? ^^
[01:31] <PhilH> the ones i've used have had a configuration option to switch usb storage mode on and off
[01:31] <adjacent> im going to try and fix it first
[01:32] <PhilH> never tried any of the HP ones with PTP
[01:32] <JustinHH> i want to install yahoo messenger. i downloaded a deb file. inside there are 3 files control.tar.gz , data.tar.gz and debian-binary . there are no instructions. how can i install yahoo messenger on my system?
[01:32] <grgcsmc> can some1 help me?
[01:32] <grgcsmc> how do i download aim?
[01:32] <JustinHH> grgcsmc, just ask....
[01:32] <adjacent> JustinHH: use gaim
[01:32] <test34> JustinHH, is that a debian .dev file ?
[01:32] <adjacent> grgcsmc: use gaim
[01:32] <ThePyromaniac> yea im on gaim, way cooler
[01:33] <JustinHH> yes
[01:33] <grgcsmc> huh
[01:33] <test34> dev=deb
[01:33] <JustinHH> it is a deb file
[01:33] <grgcsmc> can u use aim usernames?
[01:33] <JustinHH> adjacent,  it is a deb file
[01:33] <ThePyromaniac> grgcsmc: Gaim Instant Messanger is a All-in-One package
[01:33] <grgcsmc> oh
[01:33] <adjacent> JustinHH: dont use some off the wall deb file. fucking use gaim and run your yahoo name out of that
[01:33] <ThePyromaniac> MSN, AOL, Yahoo, IRC, Jabber, etc
[01:33] <fredforfaen> hey peeps
[01:34] <JustinHH> adjacent, i know but i can-t transfer files with windows yahoo messengers
[01:34] <djjason> has anyone used expocity...is there any development still on it?
[01:34] <grgcsmc> what is the file format to download programs?
[01:34] <ThePyromaniac> SJ is mad, it started ripping at 3.8 percent and is slowly increasing now i put paranoi to 0. every 30 secs it goes up by 0.1%. Up to 7.5% rip speed now! :D
[01:34] <adjacent> JustinHH: probably because you and your friends are both behind NAT
[01:34] <JustinHH> grgcsmc,  use synaptic
[01:34] <grgcsmc> huh?
[01:34] <[linner] > cafuego:  I'm sorry if you responded I didn't see it... apparently I was reset. :(
[01:35] <JustinHH> nat?
[01:35] <grgcsmc> im new to ubuntu
[01:35] <JustinHH> grgcsmc, i was a few days to
[01:35] <ThePyromaniac> Anyone here using WoW on AMD64 kernel?
[01:35] <[linner] > grgcsmc:  welcome to Ubuntu
[01:35] <grgcsmc> thx
[01:36] <JustinHH> adjacent,  what means NAT?
[01:36] <[linner] > grgcsmc:  did you get your question answered about file formats in Linux?
[01:36] <grgcsmc> no
[01:37] <darklogic> can anyone tell me why i can't write to a remote filesystem over nfs, even though its set (rw, async) in my exports file?
[01:37] <[linner] > grgcsmc:  Have you used and/or do you know about Synaptic?
[01:37] <grgcsmc> no
[01:37] <Xappe> NAT = Network Address Translator (iirc)
[01:37] <[linner] > grgcsmc:  Ok.  Synaptic is the way you download and install programs.
[01:37] <Strog> translation but close enough
[01:37] <JustinHH> !tell justinhh about nat
[01:37] <sudonim> hi, I just added a Serial-ATA drive - how would I a) find out which it is /dev/??? and b) format it
[01:37] <Xappe> Strog: :)
[01:37] <grgcsmc> ok
[01:38] <grgcsmc> thx
[01:38] <[linner] > grgcsmc:  Are you using Kubuntu or Ubuntu?
[01:38] <JustinHH> ubotu i dunno what is 'nat'.
[01:38] <ubotu> JustinHH: what are you talking about?
[01:38] <JustinHH> :))
[01:38] <grgcsmc> ubuntu
[01:38] <[linner] > grgcsmc:  Ok.
[01:38] <JustinHH> thank's for the support guys
[01:38] <JustinHH> :((
[01:38] <[linner] > grgcsmc:  It is in your administration menu.
[01:38] <grgcsmc> thx
[01:38] <[linner] > JustinHH:  You're welcome. :)
[01:39] <JustinHH> loool
[01:39] <[linner] > *smile*
[01:39] <ThePyromaniac> sudonim: mine is /dev/sda1. Run sudo gedit /etc/fstab to find out
[01:39] <JustinHH> i just asked 2 times what nat is and nobody answerd
[01:39] <sambagirl> anyone know if there is any web based scheduling software for linux? pirmarily for free and for a medical clinic?
[01:40] <sambagirl> nat is somehting you swat with your hand
[01:40] <sambagirl> cause it bothers you :)
[01:40] <[linner] > JustinHH:  Either people do not know or they could be busy.
[01:40] <sambagirl> no it is network translation table.
[01:40] <[linner] > sambagirl:  hehehehe
[01:40] <sudonim> ThePyromaniac: thanks - I will try that - it isnt in the fstab yet - because I havent even made a partition :)
[01:40] <sambagirl> nat = network translation table.
[01:40] <grgcsmc> justinhh, do u use aim?
[01:40] <JustinHH> confused.....
[01:40] <JustinHH> yes i do
[01:40] <grgcsmc> wats ure sn?
[01:41] <JustinHH> yes i do use aim
[01:41] <sudonim> ThePyromaniac: woohoo! I sda1 is it... now I have 300gb to store all of my media!
[01:41] <PhilH> isn't it network address translation?
[01:41] <JustinHH> grgcsmc,  but i want to have olso if possible webcam and voice support
[01:41] <sambagirl> it's sort of off topic but if you go to ubuntu-offtopic they would gladly help you understand its functoi in a router.
[01:41] <grgcsmc> i got them
[01:41] <adjacent> JustinHH: you are behind a router translating your private 192. ip into a public one, so are your friends more than likely. iirc, gaim 1.4 wont handle this. i doubt yahoo messenger will either
[01:42] <grgcsmc> but not installed
[01:42] <grgcsmc> yes
[01:42] <grgcsmc> yet*
[01:42] <sambagirl> opps network address translatoin lol
[01:42] <sambagirl> sorry
[01:42] <sambagirl> lol
[01:42] <sambagirl> well justinHH i nknow what i was thinking i just not typing it right.
[01:42] <PhilH> you may need to set up some port forwarding for AIM file transfers and the like
[01:43] <Concord_Dawn> hey
[01:43] <PhilH> though not being an AIM user personally i have no idea what those might be
[01:43] <adjacent> JustinHH: if you want to, install that deb package. but no one is going to support that, because its outside the ubuntu reps and could possibly break your package manager
[01:43] <ThePyromaniac> sudonim: good to hear! :D
[01:43] <Concord_Dawn> anyone here familiar with Firestarter?
[01:43] <JustinHH> sambagirl, no problem. i am new in the univers of linux :P i know 99% of windows as a user
[01:43] <grgcsmc> justinhh, whats your aim sn?
[01:44] <JustinHH> grgcsmc,  you mean the virsion?
[01:44] <JustinHH> grgcsmc,  you mean the version?
[01:44] <grgcsmc> screen name
[01:44] <[linner] > grgcsmc:  Please take anything not Ubuntu related into #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:44] <grgcsmc> k
[01:44] <[linner] > Thank you.
[01:44] <grgcsmc> np
[01:45] <JustinHH> grgcsmc, see private
[01:45] <seth_k> Someone want to help me poke my wireless card? On boot, it's connected, and I can access the Internet. However, if I bring it down (sudo ifdown wlan0) and then back up (sudo ifup wlan0), it scans and then says "No DHCPOFFERS received."
[01:45] <fredforfaen> !e17
[01:45] <ubotu> e17 is, like, totally, the next generation enlightenment http://www.enlightenment.org or http://www.rasterman.com, http://www.get-e.org or http://www.edevelop.org
[01:45] <JustinHH> adjacent, how can i install a deb file?
[01:46] <bimberi> JustinHH: dpkg -i whatever.deb
[01:46] <bimberi> JustinHH: er, with "sudo" in front :)
[01:46] <JustinHH> that's all?
[01:46] <gmjonker> hi. newbee question. gcc-version.sh says 3.4 while its actually 4.0 on my machine. how come?
[01:46] <bimberi> yep
[01:47] <[linner] > bimberi:  how are you?
[01:47] <JustSteve> hey are the hoary backport servers borked?
[01:48] <bimberi> hi [linner] , well thanks, and you?
[01:48] <JustinHH> bimberi, can you explai what each thing means (so that i remember it and do not have to ask you next time again)?
[01:48] <[linner] > bimberi:  great! thanks!
[01:48] <[linner] > !tell JustSteve about backports
[01:48] <seth_k> also, I can use "wifi-radar" to reconnect to a wireless network just fine.
[01:48] <Pirogeth> has anybody had any luck using wpasupplicant via ubuntu on a broadcom/ndiswrapper driver?
[01:49] <bigbootay> I'm trying to figure out what process is figuring out when a usb memory stick is being plugged in and launching the file browser.
[01:49] <bimberi> JustinHH: do you mean each thing in that command i gave?
[01:49] <[linner] > bimberi:  could I ask you a question about retrieving Evolution data?
[01:49] <bigbootay> I know about /sbin/hotplug and all but it doesn't seem to be happening through that.
[01:49] <JustinHH> bimberi, yes
[01:49] <JustSteve> [linner]  thanks
[01:49] <bigbootay> and I know how to configure it in gnome.  just looking for the missing link.
[01:49] <bimberi> [linner] : yes, but i'm afraid i don't know much about it sorry
[01:49] <seth_k> bimberi, sudo = escalate to root privileges (let you make system changes). dpkg = Debian Package Control, lets you install files. -i = command switch to put dpkg in install mode
[01:49] <seth_k> and whatever.deb is the file, a DEB package
[01:50] <JustinHH> bimberi, yes
[01:50] <seth_k> oops, I mean JustinHH, not bimberi
[01:50] <bimberi> JustinHH: there you go, thanks seth_k that saved me some typing :)
[01:50] <seth_k> cheers
[01:50] <ThePyromaniac> i just installed and an firestarter wizzard. anything else i must do?
[01:51] <JustinHH> ohhh
[01:51] <linner> go this sucks
[01:51] <linner> i mean god this sucks
[01:51] <linner> i keep getting my connection reset
[01:51] <linner> bimberi:  I installed kubuntu-desktop today.  After I logged out I couldn't retrieve my Evolution data in Kontact.  Any idea where I should look?
[01:52] <bimberi> linner: dorry i don't know much about it at all.  Is there a .evolution directory in your home directory?
[01:52] <linner> bimberi:  I'm sure it's not purged... just hidden for some strange reason.
[01:52] <bimberi> *sorry (D'Oh)
[01:52] <linner> bimberi:  let me check
[01:53] <linner> bimberi:  in fact, there's NOTHING in my home folder
[01:53] <linner> :(
[01:53] <bimberi> linner: try "ls -a"
[01:53] <linner> ok
[01:53] <sudonim> hi all - my 300gb drive is well above the recommended limits for fat32. Is there any other format I can use if I want to be able to recover the data in windows ever?
[01:54] <linner> bimberi:  using that command, yes it looks like it
[01:54] <bimberi> linner: anything beginning with a "." is hidden unless you ask to see it explicitly
[01:54] <linner> bimberi:  oh okay
[01:54] <linner> bimberi:  so where to from here?
[01:55] <bimberi> linner: unfortunatly i don't really know kontact at all, does it have an import mechanism of some sort?
[01:55] <kevman> I recently apt-get updated to Hoary... and now, when I try to delete sopmething, I get this message: Could not write to file /home/kevin/.local/share/Trash/info/zsneso.trashinfo.
[01:55] <nxv_> what do i have to insert into .forward to get my messages through procmail?
[01:55] <kevman> Any ideas as to what's wrong?
[01:55] <linner> bimberi:  ok... let me see... I guess more what I was asking is what do I do with the hidden file?  How do I "see' it?
[01:56] <bigbootay> nxv_, try "|procmail ..."
[01:56] <nxv_> bigbootay: thx i will
[01:56] <bimberi> kevman: could be a permissions thing, try "sudo chown -R kevin:kevin ~/.local" in a terminal
[01:57] <kevman> bimberi, that did it. Thanks.
[01:57] <bimberi> linner: you can "cd .evolution" in a terminal and then look at what's there
[01:58] <bimberi> kevman: yw :)
[01:58] <ClamChowdah> Hi could someone /msg me on setting up PPC ubuntu?
[01:58] <kevman> I'm just trying to hold this thing together long enough to pull a fresh install of Kubuntu Breezy.
[01:59] <shekhar> can someone help me?
[01:59] <Pirogeth> could somebody assist me with wpasupplicant on ndiswrapper when on ubuntu
[01:59] <ThePyromaniac> gmjonker: there is some strange stuff going on with GCC. Mine has about 9 versions installed! Wait for breesy when it will use 4.0 as standard, then remove other versions ^^
[02:00] <Pirogeth> i am thrown the error "Failed to enable WPA in the driver."
[02:01] <linner> bimberi:  sorry i'm trying to figure out contact... ok.. i'll do what you suggested
[02:02] <Ninjew> Hey, does anybody have any idea why HTTP transfers regularly stall out? I've tried both the skge and the sk98lin drivers. I'm pretty sure this is a software problem.
[02:03] <Tzeech> Where can I find repositories of .deb packages?
[02:03] <netstar> How many days to go?
[02:04] <linner> bimberi:  i'm in terminal and have changed directories.. what command do i use to view it's contents?
[02:04] <linner> !tell [linner]  about commands
[02:05] <sudonim> should I use ext2 or ext3 as my hd format?
[02:05] <havoc> wext3
[02:05] <bimberi> linner: ls
[02:05] <havoc> ext3
[02:05] <linner> bimberi:  yeah I thougth you were talking with someone else... asked ubotu to give me a link to basic commands
[02:05] <linner> bimberi:  thanks ;)
[02:06] <sudonim> cool - thanks havoc
[02:06] <khermans> how can i change the application to handle callto:// links in Firefox?
[02:06] <khermans> wan to switch from Gnome Meeting to Skype as the hanlder
[02:06] <havoc> sudonim: they are botht he same, with some additional stuff for journaling layered on top for ext3
[02:07] <khermans> havoc, is this mr pennington ?
[02:07] <sudonim> havoc: is ext3 == reiserfs?
[02:07] <havoc> khermans: no
[02:07] <havoc> sudonim: no
[02:07] <bimberi> linner: hehe.  unfortunately i really don't know anything about importing into kontact though,  you need help from someone more, er, kompetent :)
[02:07] <khermans> sudonim, no, you cant use reiserfs for things like security
[02:07] <havoc> sudonim: reiserfs and JFS are two different journaling filesystems
[02:07] <linner> bimberi:  bad pun ;)
[02:08] <khermans> sudonim, for instance, ext3 is needed for SELinux
[02:08] <linner> bimberi:  can you at least tell me where I should ask it to reveal all files rather than hiding the "." ones
[02:08] <sudonim> so more secure, cool
[02:08] <fredforfaen> breezy seems cool , and faster :)
[02:08] <bimberi> linner: in the terminal, it's by adding -a to any ls commands...
[02:09] <linner> oh okay
[02:09] <linner> so i would be able to see them in the gui?
[02:09] <linner> bimberi:  as in "file manager"
[02:09] <khermans> anyone know how to change the <keyname>:// handler types?  ike mailto://, callto://, ssh://, ftp:// ...
[02:09] <fredforfaen> only thing is that my apps and gnome are blended norwegain and english , any ideas?
[02:10] <linner> khermans:  I wish I could help you.  I don't know.  However, there are many knowledgable people who can help you in the room.
[02:10] <nife> fredforfaen: They should have waited to compile everything with gcc 4.0 its not ready yet
[02:11] <fredforfaen> ah ok nife ...so after a few apt-get dist-upgrades it will be fine then :)
[02:11] <bimberi> linner: i only know nautilus where it's View -> Show Hidden files (from the menu), unfortunately not sure in kubuntu due to my inkompetence
[02:12] <nife> i doubt it the compiler is like 20% slower then gcc 3.4 and lots of things don't compile(the kernel )
[02:12] <bimberi> linner: :)
[02:12] <linner> ok... maybe i'll switch back to GNOME then... might be easier
[02:12] <linner> brb
[02:12] <bimberi> linner: anyone answering in #kubuntu?
[02:14] <JustinHH> !tell justinhh about mp3
[02:14] <Tortel> !tell Tortel about mp3
[02:15] <JustinHH> !tell justinhh about mp3
[02:15] <nife> anyone know how to get a SanDisk MMC/SD card to mount ? I have a laptop that has a builtin card reader and I want to be able to mount the card
[02:15] <nife> sepcifically its a gateway M320
[02:15] <bur[n] er> nife: automagical in gnome... it shows up on the desktop
[02:15] <bur[n] er> at least for me
[02:16] <nife> nope not for me :-(
[02:16] <bur[n] er> nife: try "mount /dev/sda1 /the/mount/point/you/made"
[02:16] <nife> there is no /dev/sd*
[02:17] <bur[n] er> nife: got me then... can you see it when you run "gparted" ?
[02:18] <bur[n] er> nife: I swear it 'just worked' here... I really don't think I had to do anything (though it's worked for ages so I don't recall)
[02:18] <nife> on a gateway laptop ?
[02:18] <bur[n] er> nife: compaq
[02:18] <nife> Hmm
[02:19] <bur[n] er> nife: check the laptop compatibility part on the wiki?
[02:19] <Tzeech> Where can I find a list of .deb packages to install?
[02:19] <bur[n] er> maybe someone with the same model gateway has a tip?
[02:19] <bur[n] er> if not... and you figure it out... maybe you can add a tip :)
[02:19] <bur[n] er> Tzeech: run synaptic
[02:19] <bhikkhu> Tzeech: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[02:19] <marcin_ant> hi all
[02:20] <nife> bur[n] er, thanks I guess its time to start kernel digging blah.  thanks
[02:20] <marcin_ant> I need some help with zope server
[02:20] <marcin_ant> could someone help me with installation?
[02:20] <_jason> Hi, I just installed Downloader for X but it gives me a segmentation fault every time I start it.  Any ideas?
[02:20] <bur[n] er> w00000000000000t!!!  rhythmbox in breezy now has searching without crashing!!!!!!  oh joyous day
[02:21] <bur[n] er> _jason: installed via synaptic?
[02:21] <_jason> yes
[02:21] <_jason> bur[n] er:  d4x package
[02:21] <shekhar> can someone help me with a problem in breezy?
[02:21] <bur[n] er> _jason: breezy by chance?
[02:21] <_jason> bur[n] er:  nope, oary
[02:21] <bur[n] er> oh... in that case, i dunno ;)
[02:21] <bur[n] er> should work in hoary
[02:21] <bur[n] er> heh
[02:21] <_jason> bur[n] er:  heh
[02:21] <bur[n] er> shekhar: what's the problem?
[02:21] <Tortel> hmm
[02:22] <Tortel> whats the command to install a .deb package?
[02:22] <JustinHH> i have got some problems with firefox
[02:22] <_jason> Tortel:  dpkg -u filename.deb
[02:22] <shekhar> bur[n] er:  whenever i choose logout from system menu, my sessions get saved rather than the machine logging out
[02:22] <_jason> Tortel:  dpkg -i filename.deb sorry typo
[02:22] <breakthestate> so i compile mplayer from source after i had added all the codecs to /usr/local/lib/codecs and it worked for a bit, but after a reboot, it can't find any codecs
[02:23] <bimberi> marcin_ant: what's the problem?
[02:23] <marcin_ant> bimberi, problem is that I installed zope2.8
[02:23] <Tortel> thanks _jason
[02:24] <Tortel> should have remebered
[02:24] <Tortel> :(
[02:24] <marcin_ant> bimberi, I created zope instance (whith some weird python script)
[02:24] <JustinHH> i have got some problems with firefox. it dowsn't wanna play a webradio. it sais that there is not a plugin. the plugin finder can't find it too. i instaled w32codec pack as someone of you sugested and it is still now working. the website is called www.energy.de
[02:24] <marcin_ant> bimberi, and now I don't know how to log in to this server
[02:24] <PhilH> Could anyone here try to help me get my CD burner working with Hoary?
[02:25] <marcin_ant> bimberi, afaik it should appear on localhost:9673
[02:25] <_jason> Tortel:  don't worry that just about the only thing I know...
[02:25] <marcin_ant> bimberi, but it doesn't
[02:25] <bimberi> marcin_ant: hm, give me a sec
[02:25] <breakthestate> Phil, do you care what program you use?
[02:25] <marcin_ant> bimberi, and when I run /etc/init.d/zope2.8 start
[02:25] <PhilH> cdrecord will do
[02:25] <PhilH> or cdrdao
[02:25] <_jason> bur[n] er:  wow I don't believe this... guess what my problem was... go ahead guess.
[02:25] <breakthestate> oh, cdrecord doesn't work?
[02:26] <PhilH> indeed
[02:26] <shekhar> bur[n] er:  any idea what could be doing this?
[02:26] <marcin_ant> bimberi, I get a bunch of lines with output like this:
[02:26] <breakthestate> i couldn't get the gui ubuntu to work and used cdrecord and it worked fine
[02:26] <breakthestate> so i probably couldn't help you
[02:26] <marcin_ant> bimberi, Zope2.8: skipping bin (old/purged)
[02:26] <PhilH> did yours just work out of the box?
[02:26] <marcin_ant> bimberi, it's propably skipping all directories in zope instance dir
[02:27] <marcin_ant> bimberi, btw my ubuntu 'release' is breezy
[02:27] <breakthestate> PhilH, yeah
[02:27] <bimberi> marcin_ant: possibly.  does "sudo netstat -plunt | grep python" show anything
[02:27] <PhilH> heh, ok
[02:27] <breakthestate> Phil, i'm using breezy
[02:27] <PhilH> ah
[02:27] <bimberi> marcin_ant: yeah, guessed breezy (i'm 2.7 on hoary)
[02:27] <Tortel> marcin_ant - The Kubuntu room is #kubuntu
[02:28] <Tortel> fyi
[02:28] <marcin_ant> Tortel, ?
[02:28] <Tortel> :P
[02:28] <Tortel> the Kubuntu irc room
[02:28] <marcin_ant> bimberi, no nothing in output
[02:28] <marcin_ant> bimberi, (netstat... )
[02:29] <bimberi> marcin_ant: it's probably not running then :(
[02:29] <PhilH> breakethestate: what method does cdrecord use to access the drive on your system?
[02:29] <breakthestate> PhilH - I couldn't even tell you actually
[02:29] <marcin_ant> bimberi, I'll remove this 2.8 crap and I'll try with 2.7 in a sec.
[02:29] <PhilH> ok, np
[02:30] <breakthestate> if you want i could try and find out if you told me what command to pass (strace? smthing... I think)
[02:31] <JustinHH> in synaptic apears the following eror: E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[02:31] <JustinHH> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[02:31] <bimberi> marcin_ant: probably a good idea, sorry i can't help you more
[02:32] <shekhar> can someone please help me?
[02:32] <JustinHH> bimberi, help!!!!!
[02:32] <JustinHH> :))
[02:32] <PhilH> shekhar: with what?
[02:33] <propagandhi> JustinHH - normally a permissions problem, or you have apt running elsewhere, such as in a terminal
[02:33] <shekhar> PhilH:  i don't understand why everytime i try to logout, first i am told my session has been saved, and i have to choose logout a second time to actually shut down or restart
[02:33] <Tortel> package manager will block apt
[02:34] <JustinHH> propagandhi, nope
[02:34] <propagandhi> JustinHH - and you're running synaptic as root user right
[02:34] <Thunderguy> Anyone know the default runlevel in hoary? I'd like to make just a few edits to running services.
[02:34] <JustinHH> yes
[02:35] <JustinHH> i have one broken package
[02:35] <propagandhi> try removing the lock file from the terminal with synaptic closed
[02:35] <jcape> Thunderguy: 2
[02:35] <PhilH> shekhar: hrm, ok, probably can't help then, haven't come accross anything like that before
[02:35] <Thunderguy> jcape: Ty
[02:35] <jcape> Thunderguy: np
[02:35] <JustinHH> its to complicated
[02:35] <JustinHH> i think i am gonna restart my computer
[02:35] <JustinHH> :D
[02:36] <JustinHH> maybe it works like that
[02:40] <Mrbear> lets not update to breezy anymore
[02:40] <Sionide> ah
[02:40] <Sionide> how does one go about syncing his cpu clock with the internet server ones?
[02:40] <bur[n] er> Mrbear: ?
[02:40] <Sionide> and are they actually accurate?
[02:41] <Mrbear> updated to breezy never worked again back to hoary
[02:41] <marcin_ant> bimberi, could you tell me what is zeo?
[02:41] <Mrbear> I hate it nothing works except if everything is onboard
[02:41] <Mrbear> ubuntu wants nothing to do with my pci vdieo card
[02:42] <alexandros> good night, has anyone used the web module wbmclamav for clam antivirus, if so how do you get it to work? I downloaded the binary and got a tar of a wbm extension file.
[02:44] <test34> Mrbear, thats not true, my on board video card dont work right
[02:44] <propagandhi> Mrbear: what is your onboard video card?
[02:44] <Mrbear> intel
[02:44] <test34> oops
[02:44] <propagandhi> Mrbear: mine is also onboard intel
[02:44] <test34> mine too
[02:44] <test34> i815
[02:44] <Mrbear> no I mean I got a ati pci card which I want to use since this onboard sucks butt
[02:44] <Tortel> im running on a fx5200
[02:44] <propagandhi> and i am using breezy with kde 3.5 beta with complete success
[02:45] <propagandhi> also running games and cedega
[02:45] <Tortel> what does breezy look like?
[02:45] <propagandhi> running Sin for linux, savage for linux etc etc
[02:45] <dooglus> Tortel: as of today, it looks a little different than hoary.  the wallpaper changed a couple of hours ago!
[02:46] <Mrbear> I cant even run breezy
[02:46] <propagandhi> breezy doesn't "look" all that different, but there are some visual enhancements
[02:46] <propagandhi> most of the enhancements are not visual though
[02:46] <Mrbear> I am so bored
[02:46] <propagandhi> I'm still skinning breezy with stuff from kde-look etc
[02:46] <Mrbear> I dont even know what to do on this desktop
[02:47] <propagandhi> but i can say Kde 3.5 beta runs really fast and really well on my particular setup
[02:47] <dooglus> Tortel: it looks a bit like this: http://s89213869.onlinehome.us/breezy.png
[02:48] <Samhain> I left my computer for about a day. I come back, now I can't start any programs. I click the icons and it acts like it is opening and disappears
[02:48] <Mrbear> nothing works on this pc
[02:48] <Samhain> anyone ever see this?
[02:48] <WhiteRabbit> Samhain, I saw it in gentoo
[02:48] <Samhain> it happened on debian and now ubuntu
[02:48] <Samhain> wonder why
[02:49] <Samhain> if I log out and back it, it is ok
[02:49] <WhiteRabbit> ubuntu's father is debian?
[02:49] <dooglus> WhiteRabbit: yes
[02:49] <WhiteRabbit> dooglus, why gee whiz thx mr
[02:49] <Samhain> I swear I saw this on mandrake once too
[02:49] <dooglus> WhiteRabbit: welcome
[02:50] <WhiteRabbit> Samhain, you mean mandiva now
[02:50] <dooglus> WhiteRabbit: if you were trying to answer Samhain's question of why he can't run applications with that, then it wasn't very helpful.
[02:50] <Samhain> it was mandrake at the time. they are calling it mandiva?? wtf
[02:50] <WhiteRabbit> Samhain, sounds like the main OS of the blue oyster club in police academy
[02:50] <wickedpuppy> been a while now Samhain  ...
[02:50] <dooglus> Samhain: mandrake and connectiva merged to form mandriva
[02:50] <marcin_ant> ehhhhh
[02:51] <WhiteRabbit> dooglus, if your a elitist just say so
[02:51] <WhiteRabbit> lol
[02:51] <Samhain> anyway, this problem is annoying
[02:51] <marcin_ant> could someone tell me how to install and run any zope server on breezy?
[02:51] <dooglus> WhiteRabbit: that would be *an* elitist
[02:51] <Mrbear> I guess its back to windows
[02:51] <propagandhi> Mrbear: thats a pretty quick give up attitude
[02:51] <dooglus> WhiteRabbit: and *you're*
[02:51] <wickedpuppy> marcin_ant, first get zope ?
[02:51] <wickedpuppy> its in synaptic
[02:51] <propagandhi> but if you're that way inclined........
[02:51] <WhiteRabbit> dooglus, I was sure I would find a ton in #Ubuntu so here I am
[02:51] <marcin_ant> wickedpuppy, well good idea
[02:52] <Mrbear> well first of all I am down to onboard hardware since nothing else wont work
[02:52] <marcin_ant> wickedpuppy, let's assume that I know how to use apt
[02:52] <wickedpuppy> marcin_ant, lets not assume
[02:52] <Mrbear> second this pc dont have a agp slot
[02:52] <wickedpuppy> synaptic is GUI
[02:52] <wickedpuppy> :P
[02:52] <Mrbear> 3rd ati sucks on linux
[02:52] <wickedpuppy> its point and click
[02:52] <Mrbear> 4th I dont have nvidia
[02:52] <wickedpuppy> Mrbear, true ... nvidia fare better
[02:52] <marcin_ant> wickedpuppy, so - which zope is usable - zope2.7 2.8 or 3.0 ?
[02:52] <wickedpuppy> 2.8
[02:52] <propagandhi> Mrbear: i thought u said you had onboard intel
[02:52] <Mrbear> 5th I got sound blaster that as soon as I plug in disables alsa
[02:53] <Mrbear> well I cant use the ati card
[02:53] <wickedpuppy> marcin_ant,
[02:53] <Mrbear> keeps giving me a error when I start x
[02:53] <wickedpuppy> i could be wrong though
[02:53] <wickedpuppy> check with zope guys
[02:53] <wickedpuppy> last time i used it was 2.8 which was stable
[02:53] <propagandhi> Mrbear: if thats the case with the ati, you should set the xorg.conf to vesa, then install the ati driver, then try starting X
[02:53] <Leonik> where do i get linux-restricted-modules?
[02:54] <Tortel> anyone know a DVD player for horay?
[02:54] <wickedpuppy> Tortel, totem
[02:54] <wickedpuppy> Leonik, use universe and multiverse
[02:54] <Tortel> it wont play a dvd
[02:54] <Mrbear> cant
[02:54] <marcin_ant> wickedpuppy, anyway I installed zope-common and zope2.8
[02:54] <marcin_ant> wickedpuppy, and what now?
[02:54] <Leonik> in breezy do i need to enable any depositories like in hoary?
[02:54] <wickedpuppy> you need plone site
[02:54] <propagandhi> Mrbear: why
[02:54] <Leonik> errr repositories
[02:55] <Mrbear> dont know how
[02:55] <propagandhi> ok, well you can ask, its easy
[02:55] <Mrbear> well I did it before on debian and it still didnt work fully
[02:55] <wickedpuppy> marcin_ant, you need plone + plone site ... if you don't wanna create one ... this one is default i think
[02:55] <esac_> when i lock my computer and go to log back in, it pops up a password dialog with the fugly ubuntu colors. how can i change this ?
[02:55] <propagandhi> Mrbear: and can i ask was the ati card in when you ran the install?
[02:56] <wickedpuppy> Leonik, you just uncomment your /etc/apt/sources.list or use synaptic
[02:56] <Mrbear> its in now
[02:56] <Mrbear> but onboard is set as primary
[02:56] <propagandhi> Mrbear: ok but was it in when you first installed
[02:56] <marcin_ant> wickedpuppy, ok ok I'm installing plone-site just now
[02:56] <Mrbear> yes
[02:56] <propagandhi> Mrbear: and did you try disabling onboard video before you installed?
[02:56] <Mrbear> will only work in indirect mesa
[02:56] <cafuego_> Mrbear: install linux-restricted-modules for your kenrle version, that will install the ati kernel driver. You will also need the 'fglrx' package, which contains the X driver.
[02:57] <Mrbear> I cant no option in the bios to disable
[02:57] <wickedpuppy> marcin_ant, great ... the only thing is the port ... i think its 9673 for debian/ubuntu .... so its not 8080 :P enjoy!
[02:58] <marcin_ant> wickedpuppy, I got debianconf dialog - 'enter the http port for this instance' there is 8081 - so I need to change this to 9673?
[02:58] <Mrbear> says there is no such linux restricted modules
[02:58] <Leonik> have to update so much stuff for breezy
[02:58] <Leonik> my synaptic is going crrazzy
[02:58] <wickedpuppy> doesn't it have default ??
[02:59] <marcin_ant> wickedpuppy, default is 8081
[02:59] <Mrbear> nevermind I got it
[02:59] <marcin_ant> wickedpuppy, should I keep it or change?
[02:59] <wickedpuppy> keep
[02:59] <wickedpuppy> that can be change later
[03:00] <marcin_ant> wickedpuppy,
[03:00] <marcin_ant> wickedpuppy, ok
[03:00] <marcin_ant> wickedpuppy, and propably last question on installation
[03:00] <wickedpuppy> btw ... its for plone-site
[03:00] <wickedpuppy> not for zope ?
[03:00] <JavaGeek> whoa... too many people :)
[03:00] <marcin_ant> wickedpuppy, wtf does it mean 'purge data for plone-site on package purge'?
[03:01] <wickedpuppy> no idea
[03:01] <wickedpuppy> i suppose it will purge the old plone-site ?
[03:01] <Mrbear> doing the restricted modules I already got firegl
[03:01] <Mrbear> what do I do after
[03:01] <marcin_ant> wickedpuppy, ok
[03:02] <Mrbear> well
[03:03] <ssdd65> how do i make quake2 run right on ubuntu?
[03:03] <wickedpuppy> 2 huh ... i thought it can run native on linux ?
[03:03] <wickedpuppy> if not wine/cedega
[03:04] <ssdd65> its the debian version ;)
[03:06] <wickedpuppy> hmms ...
[03:06] <wickedpuppy> new ubuntu-art
[03:06] <tga> is it unusually quiet in here or am I just lagging out?
[03:06] <wickedpuppy> nice
[03:06] <tga> where wickedpuppy?
[03:06] <wickedpuppy> where ? in my com!
[03:06] <wickedpuppy> lol
[03:06] <wickedpuppy> i just updated
[03:06] <Leonik> 450 megs of pure synaptic goodness
[03:06] <Leonik> :(
[03:07] <Cody`> anyone know how to play music over a smb share with bmp
[03:07] <tga> heh, I'm up to date with Hoary
[03:07] <tga> Cody`: you just mount the smb share and use it as a local directory
[03:07] <Cody`> according to an article I read on beep media player, it uses the gnome vfs, so it should be able to
[03:07] <Cody`> tga how?
[03:08] <Cody`> smbmount or whatever?
[03:08] <tga> Cody`: you could try Places -> Network Servers and see what you get
[03:08] <JavaGeek> I can't find java-common or java-package
[03:08] <wickedpuppy> JavaGeek, search java
[03:08] <tga> otherwise you do it manually: smbmount //winbox/share /mnt/whatever
[03:08] <wickedpuppy> in synaptic i mean
[03:09] <tga> !java
[03:09] <ubotu> it has been said that java is to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[03:09] <Cody`> yeah it's there
[03:09] <Cody`> but it won't play ff it
[03:09] <Cody`> off*
[03:09] <tga> Cody`: did you mount it as root (with sudo)?
[03:09] <JustinHH> can you short write me the steps i have to make for installing a deb file
[03:09] <JustinHH> ?
[03:09] <Cody`> no, I was talking about on places -> network servers
[03:09] <tga> JustinHH: what are you trying to install?
[03:09] <Cody`> I'm trying the munt now
[03:09] <Cody`> mount*
[03:09] <JustinHH> a .deb package
[03:10] <Cody`> what package is smbmount included in?
[03:10] <tga> Cody`: smbfs
[03:10] <tga> JustinHH: sudo dpkg -i yourpackage.deb
[03:10] <JavaGeek> wickedpuppy: in synaptics? I already did
[03:10] <wickedpuppy> you don't see java ?
[03:11] <JavaGeek> wickedpuppy: no
[03:11] <JustinHH> tga, yes and then?
[03:11] <wickedpuppy> have you enabled universe and multiverse ?
[03:11] <tga> JustinHH: that's it
[03:11] <JustinHH> and how can i start the program
[03:11] <tga> JustinHH: again, what are you trying to install?
[03:11] <JustinHH> tga,  where can i find it?
[03:11] <JustinHH> yahoo messenger
[03:11] <slot|processor> Is there a deb package for Cisco VPN client
[03:11] <slot|processor> ?
[03:11] <tga> JustinHH: it usually gets copied to /usr/bin or something
[03:12] <tga> JustinHH: and /usr/bin is in the PATH so you can type the first letter of the name and hit tab to get all completions
[03:12] <tga> JustinHH: if the package is smart enough it will add the new program to the Gnome menu
[03:12] <slot|processor> I tried converting the package using alien....it didnt install properly.
[03:13] <wickedpuppy> slot|processor, cisco doesn't use ssh ?
[03:13] <tga> slot|processor: I don't know anything about the Cisco client, but what's the trouble with the alienated deb?
[03:14] <Mrbear> ok thats enough
[03:14] <esac_> i installed gkrellm and i dont see any new programs added to configure it. how do i configure it ?
[03:14] <delltony> anyone recall the link for the linmodem howto by chance please?
[03:14] <wickedpuppy> slot|processor, actually you can get the source and install ... the vpn client has the install script
[03:15] <JustinHH> tga, looool. it aded it to the desktop :D
[03:15] <_chavo> esac_, right click it
[03:15] <Cody`> hmm
[03:15] <Cody`> backports down?
[03:15] <esac_> _chavo: right click what ?
[03:15] <Cody`> as smbfs isn't in regular repos?
[03:15] <tga> Filename: pool/main/s/samba/smbfs_3.0.10-1ubuntu3_i386.deb
[03:15] <tga> it's in there
[03:15] <_chavo> esac_, uhm gkrellm
[03:16] <esac_> _chavo: i dont see gkrellm anywhere, that was my point :)
[03:16] <tga> esac_: well run it, it should show up on the screen
[03:16] <_chavo> esac_, did you run it?
[03:16] <slot|processor> I didnt see the source. Maybe i didnt look hard enough.
[03:16] <JavaGeek> wickedpuppy: yes
[03:17] <_chavo> it sits on the desktop, so it may be covered by other windows
[03:17] <slot|processor> It was available in RPM
[03:17] <JavaGeek> wickedpuppy: here's my sources.list: http://pastebin.com/378335
[03:17] <esac_> _chavo: no, i was looking for an icon in the menu for it, didnt know i had to type "gkrellm" in a terminal. why is there no icon ?
[03:18] <tga> that is a good question
[03:18] <_chavo> esac_, no idea
[03:19] <LuVUnTu> re dooglus
[03:19] <LuVUnTu> re Seveas
[03:19] <inc|freaky> hi all. i just upgraded to breezy. now i have a strange problem: im using pppoe (configuring it using pppoeconf). after using pppoeconf i select trigger connection now. connection established everything working, im connected to my provider. after EVERY reboot it doesnt work anymore. i have to manualy do pppoeconf again to make it work. the error in syslog: network down. tried ifup eth0 doesnt work
[03:20] <slot|processor> To be honest...i have not tried hard enough to be in here asking.
[03:20] <tga> esac_: good point, maybe you should add it as a bug
[03:20] <Cody`> w00 got it
[03:21] <JustinHH> is there a difference between make and gmake?
[03:21] <Epix> I have a nice Evvolution MK-361 USB Midi keyboard. I have alsa, libasound2 and alsa-utils installed. It appears in lsusb, But, when i run aconnect it gives me this error:
[03:21] <Cody`> is there anyway to automount the share?
[03:21] <bettong_BOFH> ok for all you linux geeks out there you HAVE got to see this
[03:21] <bettong_BOFH> http://www.artlebedev.com/portfolio/optimus/
[03:21] <Epix> ALSA lib seq_hw.c:455:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory
[03:21] <Epix> can't open sequencer
[03:21] <Cody`> on bootup
[03:21] <crimsun> Epix: sudo modprobe snd-seq
[03:21] <bettong_BOFH> i want that damn keyboard
[03:21] <bettong_BOFH> it is the most awsome one i have ever seen
[03:22] <crimsun> JustinHH: make on Ubuntu _is_ gmake.
[03:22] <bettong_BOFH> and it's supposed to be linux compatale
[03:22] <tga> JustinHH: install build-essentials
[03:22] <PhilH> wow, the OLED keyb, seen on /. countless times
[03:22] <JustinHH> k
[03:22] <bettong_BOFH> firdt time i have seen it
[03:22] <esac_> i got email yesterday, FLASH: madriva linux 2006 is coming out soon. i subscribed to that list like 2 years ago
[03:22] <bettong_BOFH> first seej
[03:23] <JustinHH> gmake---> command not found
[03:23] <JustinHH> :D
[03:23] <JustinHH> make works
[03:23] <JustinHH> :D
[03:23] <tga> JustinHH: what do you need gmake for anyway?
[03:23] <JustinHH> it asked me to type make or gmake
[03:23] <tga> bettong_BOFH: old, offtopic and expensive
[03:24] <hyphenated> JustinHH: gmake is for systems where it conflicts with the standard "make" (eg: Solaris, HPUX etc)
[03:24] <crimsun> JustinHH: gmake is GNU make, which is _precisely_ what make is.
[03:24] <tga> JustinHH: afaik 'make' _is_ gmake
[03:24] <bettong_BOFH> yes yes and i know
[03:24] <Chambers`> hey guys, what program installed .deb files?  I converted a rpm with alient and now want to install the deb
[03:24] <JustinHH> aham
[03:24] <tga> Chambers`: sudo dpkg -i blah.deb
[03:24] <Chambers`> thank you
[03:24] <bob832> how can i change it so that the volumn keys on my keyboard change the PCM volumn (i already changed the volumn control up by the clock to PCM)?
[03:25] <tga> bob832: did you try System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts>?
[03:25] <slot|processor> Are there any restrictions to using GNU/debian in a corperate envirement?
[03:25] <Cody`> anyway to automount with smbfs?
[03:25] <bob832> yeah, it still changes the master
[03:25] <JustinHH> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lperl /collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[03:25] <JustinHH> what is lperl
[03:25] <JustinHH> is this a package?
[03:25] <tga> slot|processor: no restrictions on use
[03:26] <tga> slot|processor: on all GPL software afaik
[03:26] <slot|processor> Thats what i thought, but i wasnt sure.
[03:26] <Epix> crimsun, yes! aseqdump shows me workingness! but, rosegarden4 shows its logo and then stops doing anything
[03:26] <hyphenated> JustinHH: install libperl-dev
[03:27] <JustinHH> hyphenated,  i searched lperl and i couldn't find it in synaptic. thank you.
[03:27] <JustinHH> ;)
[03:28] <slot|processor> I have been thinking about implementing some debian machines at the hospital i work at for some of the healthcare software. Would that be ok?
[03:28] <hyphenated> JustinHH: -lperl means the compiler is looking for a library ( -l ) with the name "perl". on linux systems, that name gets translated to "libperl.so"
[03:28] <crimsun> slot|processor: the people who can and should answer that question are your hospital's legal team
[03:29] <slot|processor> Its a small hospital
[03:29] <JustinHH> hyphenated,  aha! good to know. this explains a lot. it will not be nececery to bother you again with -l*****    ;)
[03:29] <MadpilotPPC> slot|processor, a human-readable version of the GPL is here: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/GPL/2.0/
[03:30] <tga> crimsun: what possible legal problem could one face from running GPL software?
[03:30] <slot|processor> Thanks
[03:30] <h0sl3r> Whats a good HTML editor for linux. Im looking for something like dreamweaver.
[03:30] <bob832> is there any other place that i could change that setting?
[03:30] <MadpilotPPC> slot|processor, the real thing is insanely long, but all over the web, just ask google
[03:30] <MadpilotPPC> !tell h0sl3r about html
[03:30] <Tortel> !tell Tortel about html
[03:31] <slot|processor> Every incidence of linux in healthcare i have found good information on has been commercial
[03:31] <h0sl3r> ok
[03:31] <slot|processor> Ill look harder
[03:31] <MadpilotPPC> slot|processor, commercial Linuxes are still using GPL'd stuff, at least at the core of whatever system they're running
[03:31] <crimsun> tga: if $legal says "no", then you can't. It's that simple.
[03:31] <crimsun> tga: in practice, that rarely happens.
[03:33] <slot|processor> Well it would definately be a cost saver.
[03:34] <christian-> Hi, can anyone here help me with a bit of audio trouble ?
[03:34] <tga> slot|processor: go for it then
[03:35] <tga> christian-: ask away and maybe someone can help
[03:35] <christian-> thank you. Right, I've got an onboard soundcard
[03:35] <slot|processor> I wish it was more simple :P lol
[03:35] <christian-> and ubuntu has selected that instead of my SB Live
[03:36] <JustinHH> how can i remve the restriction (read and write protection from a file)
[03:36] <christian-> How do I change it ?
[03:36] <bob2> christian-: disable the on board one in the bios
[03:36] <JustinHH> have the permission to access a file
[03:36] <bob2> if at all possible
[03:36] <MadpilotPPC> JustinHH, chmod - "man chmod" for more info
[03:36] <christian-> bob2, so I restart and enter the bios and then try to kill it there ?
[03:36] <MadpilotPPC> JustinHH, is it a file owned by root?
[03:37] <JustinHH> maddler, yes
[03:37] <Xappe> christian-: there should be an option to disable the onboard sound in bios, yes
[03:37] <bob2> christian-: that's the simplest solution, yes
[03:37] <christian-> Ok, I'll try that !
[03:37] <christian-> Thank you
[03:37] <tga> what if you have several cards?
[03:37] <MadpilotPPC> JustinHH, using sudo can get you temporary permission w/ root-owned files, or chown to change things for good
[03:38] <bob2> tga: then blacklist the ones you don't want
[03:38] <bob2> or do something more complicated and fragile in gnome
[03:38] <JustinHH> well i instaled a package in the root terminal and now i can not start the program
[03:38] <JustinHH> :(
[03:38] <JustinHH> MadpilotPPC,
[03:38] <tga> bob2: how would you 'blacklist' a sound card?
[03:38] <bob2> JustinHH: when asking that sort of question, it's a lot more helpfu lif you tell us *what* you installed, and how yo utried to run it
[03:39] <bob2> tga: add the module name to /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[03:39] <MadpilotPPC> JustinHH, that's why you use sudo in a regular terminal rather than the root terminal... ;)
[03:39] <JustinHH> :((
[03:39] <JustinHH> so what do you suggest i should do?
[03:39] <MadpilotPPC> JustinHH, sorry, I've got to run - real world calling - but talk to bob2, he's better at this stuff than I am...
[03:39] <tga> bob2: that's not what I was talking about.. is there a (Gnome) way of selecting the 'primary output device' for system sounds and the like?
[03:39] <MadpilotPPC> later, all
[03:40] <bob2> tga: no idea
[03:40] <bob2> tga: gnome basically doesn't care, it's esd who does
[03:40] <linner> !tell me about commands
[03:40] <Tortel> !tell me about java
[03:40] <tga> bob2: meh, esd.. I use alsa output
[03:41] <Xappe> tga: the volume control maybe?
[03:41] <bob2> tga: you made all of gnome use alsa?
[03:41] <JustinHH> bob2, can you help me solving this proplem? pls
[03:41] <bob2> JustinHH: ...
[03:41] <tga> bob2: yup, the Multimedia Systems Selector thing
[03:41] <Leonik> how do i get linux restricted modules in breezy?
[03:41] <tga> I'm just thinking it would be a good idea to provide 'default' users with the option of selecting a sound card to use
[03:42] <JustinHH> bob2, i installed a program in the root terminal and now i can not run it in the user mode.
[03:42] <JustinHH> becaouse i do not have the permission
[03:42] <cafuego_> what program?
[03:42] <bob2> JustinHH: you need to tell us what "installed" means, what it is, and the exact error you got trying to run it
[03:43] <Tortel> !tell me about identd
[03:43] <JustinHH> bob2,  a tar.gz mackage with ./configure make and make install
[03:44] <Leonik> !tell me about linux restricted modules
[03:44] <cafuego_> JustinHH: That was  avery bad idea, you shouldn't have done that.
[03:44] <JustinHH> and i can not open now the executable
[03:44] <cevizoglu> JustinHH: that isn't related to your problem: what you described is normal procedure for install
[03:44] <Leonik> !tell me about restricted modules
[03:44] <cevizoglu> JustinHH: and what cafuego said too
[03:44] <tga> JustinHH: exactly how are you trying to run it?
[03:45] <Leonik> how would one obtain the linux-restricted-modules?
[03:45] <tga> !restricted-modules
[03:45] <ubotu> tga: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[03:45] <cafuego_> Leonik: apt-cache search linux-restricted; pick the appropriate one for your kernel,.
[03:46] <JustinHH> tga,  in /user/local/bin is the executable and i can not accecc it
[03:46] <JustinHH> tga,  in /user/local/bin is the executable and i can not access it
[03:46] <JustinHH> i only must get the rights to run that file
[03:46] <bob2> JustinHH: what program is it?
[03:46] <JustinHH> isnt that the command line with -rww or smth like that?
[03:46] <bob2> Leonik: with your package management tool of choice
[03:47] <bob2> JustinHH: also, yo ustill haven't shown us the error
[03:47] <dooglus> Leonik: linux-386 depends on linux-restricted-modules-386, so you should have it already
[03:47] <Leonik> and whats the command to find kernel version?
[03:47] <Leonik> yea synaptic says i do
[03:47] <JustinHH> bob2, there is no error, i just can not access the file
[03:47] <Leonik> good good good
[03:48] <cevizoglu> JustinHH: there has to be an error, or it would have worked
[03:48] <dooglus> Leonik: "uname -r"
[03:48] <christian-> Didn't work
[03:48] <cafuego_> Give it a pay rise.
[03:48] <christian-> I disabled something called "Onboard AC 97 Audio Controller"
[03:48] <JustinHH> type executable
[03:49] <JustinHH> i don't know
[03:49] <bob2> JustinHH: dude
[03:49] <cafuego_> JustinHH: What did you compile?
[03:49] <bob2> JustinHH: what was the full name of the file you installed?
[03:50] <JustinHH> opendchub
[03:50] <dooglus> http://opendchub.sourceforge.net/ ?
[03:50] <JustinHH> yeap
[03:50] <zer0`> how can i measure how long a program takes to run?
[03:50] <bob2> zer0`: time programname args --blah
[03:50] <cafuego_> sudo apt-get install opendchub
[03:50] <dooglus> zer0`: "time"
[03:51] <cafuego_> Honestly...
[03:51] <zer0`> cool :) thanks
[03:51] <JustinHH> in the root terminal?
[03:51] <cevizoglu> JustinHH: no, in a normal terminal
[03:51] <dooglus> JustinHH: or just use synaptic
[03:51] <cevizoglu> JustinHH: don't use root terminals
[03:51] <cafuego_> You sound like you shouldn't be running ANYHTING as root.
[03:51] <JustinHH> i must type a password
[03:51] <JustinHH> is that the root password?
[03:51] <cafuego_> JustinHH: sudo asks for your user password.
[03:52] <cevizoglu> JustinHH: type your normal account pwd
[03:52] <cevizoglu> JustinHH: er, password
[03:52] <cafuego_> cevizoglu: I typed '/home/cafuego/' but it's not accepting it
[03:52] <christian-> i
[03:52] <Carpe_Libertatem> What's a good VNC client for Ubuntu?
[03:53] <cevizoglu> cafuego: no, but you foiled the keyloggers
[03:53] <cafuego_> Carpe_Libertatem: apt-cache search vnc; pick one.
[03:53] <JustinHH> i have typed many times ths : what does actualy apt-get
[03:53] <JustinHH> ?
[03:53] <Thunderguy> That's your package management system.. apt
[03:54] <cevizoglu> !tell JustinHH about apt-get
[03:54] <christian-> I'm still stuck in horrible audio-trouble-land. I've got an onboard soundcard and a SB Live, Ubuntu uses the onboard one per default and that makes me a sad panda. I've tried to disable "Onboard AC97 Audio Controller", but that was fruitless. It's still using it. Any suggestions ?
[03:55] <Carpe_Libertatem> Do you know where xtightvncviewer should be in the gnome panel?
[03:55] <kurtbec> greetings all.  I'm thinking about giving ubuntu a whirl and I'm just wondering what your opinions are about going with hoary or jumping right in with the breezy preview?
[03:55] <cevizoglu> Carpe_Libertatem: not sure, but you can launch it from terminal
[03:55] <cafuego_> christian-: Add the driver for the on-board one to the hotplug backlist, so it won't get loaded. Alternatively, tell ubuntu to use the SBLive. Open the sound control, Fil -> Change Device
[03:55] <bob2> christian-: you're sure it's disabled in the bios?
[03:55] <Carpe_Libertatem> I tried xtightvncviewer
[03:55] <Carpe_Libertatem> Didn't run
[03:55] <bob2> kurtbec: hoary
[03:55] <Thunderguy> kurtbec: Breezy should be a bit more up to date.
[03:55] <B_166-ER-X> What did just happen !!?....  :    I came back to my pc, it was on idle, i woke him up ; there were no internet connection at all...i rebooted , no more internet then again... i booted in recovery, no more internet here too, and i wasnt knowing HOW to solve this.. i was about to reinstall.. i rebooted, and although a bit longer than usual at the 'configuring network' line, it booted normally...
[03:55] <JustinHH> cevizoglu, from where ca i start now the program? or should i type anything else in the terminal?
[03:56] <Thunderguy> kurtbec: In the long-term getting Breezy is a lot less updates you would have to do.
[03:56] <cafuego_> christian-: Sorry, Preferences -> Sound -> Pick a default sound card
[03:56] <kurtbec> thunderguy: is breezy good and stable at this point
[03:56] <christian-> bob2, that was the only option that had audio _and_ onboard in it :/
[03:56] <cafuego_> kurtbec: No.
[03:56] <bob2> christian-: you're sure you saved changes?
[03:56] <norhted> bob2, sorry no such file :(
[03:56] <cevizoglu> JustinHH: just type the name of the program in the terminal
[03:56] <christian-> cafuego, I'll just try that! brb
[03:56] <kurtbec> cafuego: well close at least?
[03:56] <Thunderguy> kurtbec: Auctually I don't know, I'm still on Hoary, I may just as well order breezy though when it comes out.
[03:56] <christian-> bob2, I did it twice to make sure and did it again when it didn't work the first time. I'm sure
[03:56] <cafuego_> kurtbec: 'Close' is a subjective term.
[03:57] <kurtbec> cafuego: this is true :-)
[03:57] <cafuego_> there were 3 X updates in the past 2 days.
[03:57] <cafuego_> So i expect X is still broken somewhere.
[03:57] <B_166-ER-X> i for myself, have problem with hoary, and breezy totally crashed.
[03:57] <B_166-ER-X> i'll wait the stable version :)
[03:57] <cafuego_> evolution has the odd crash, beagle is currently non-functional...
[03:57] <cafuego_> OOo2 works OK now, though.
[03:57] <mazzabr> is there any repository where I can find java to firefox?
[03:57] <kurtbec> I ask because I'm probably going with kubuntu since I typically lean more towards kde than gnome although i don't have a good reason why.
[03:58] <christian-> cafuego, Where in the Sound Pref's do I pick a card?
[03:58] <cafuego_> I did note the iMac was unable to move Gnome 2.10 prefs to GNome 2.12 and hung upon first login.
[03:58] <bob832> wow, my battery is 111% charged - what a perk for switching from fedora to ubuntu  -  lol
[03:58] <heretico> jejeje
[03:58] <apokryphos> kurtbec: because it's better, perhaps 8)
[03:58] <cafuego_> christian-: The main sound prefs window (for me) has a pull-down.
[03:58] <_jason> bob832:  lol
[03:58] <heretico> hello
[03:58] <JustinHH> cevizoglu, opendchub was a server. i wanted a client
[03:58] <JustinHH> :((
[03:58] <cevizoglu> bob832: why, did someone give you a new battery for upgrading?  :P
[03:58] <mazzabr> hello foks.
[03:58] <kurtbec> apokrypohs:One could says that.  I really don't use alot of the features of kde I just mainly like the eye kandy :-)
[03:59] <heretico> does anyone here use powerbook ?
[03:59] <_jason> i just checked my batt and its only at 100% D:
[03:59] <christian-> cafuego, mine has three tabs
[03:59] <cafuego_> kurtbec: Still paying for what you did in a previous life, i guess. Isn't karma a bitch ;-)
[03:59] <bob2> heretico: best to jsut ask your question
[03:59] <mazzabr> I'd like to install java to firefox, but I can't find a repository. Where can I find one?
[03:59] <heretico> i cant get sound to work
[03:59] <heretico> have been going thru all
[03:59] <cevizoglu> JustinHH: I don't know what opendchub is, but you can easily search for the client with synaptic or ther terminal command "apt-cache search opendchub" etc. etc.
[03:59] <heretico> i see in google lots of other has this problem
[03:59] <cafuego_> christian-: Yes, on the gerneral tab mine lists all available cards
[03:59] <heretico> but no clear ways to resolve
[03:59] <cevizoglu> s/ther/the
[03:59] <bob832> cevizoglu: yeah, it came with that ubuntu cd i downloaded  :)
[03:59] <mazzabr> heretico, try # alsamixer
[04:00] <heretico> i do that
[04:00] <christian-> cafuego, cool! I wish mine did that :(
[04:00] <heretico> and i have all volumes up mazzabr
[04:00] <cafuego_> cevizoglu: opendchub is a dc++ server project, forked by an aussie who wanted linked hubs.
[04:00] <cafuego_> christian-: 14 days, then it will (breezy)
[04:00] <norhted> bob2, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/378374
[04:00] <mazzabr> heretico, what dmesg tells you about your soundcard?
[04:00] <christian-> ah poo. I knew I should have gone for breezy right away
[04:00] <JustinHH> cevizoglu, it is a share client
 Other stuff would have been broken.
[04:01] <christian-> Oh well, I did order some free Cd's!!
[04:01] <JustinHH> cevizoglu, p2p. found allready. thanks anyway
[04:01] <JustinHH> :D
[04:01] <Chambers`> hi guys, is there a faq on how to update hoary up to the latest build of breezy?
[04:01] <christian-> But breezy will solve this then ?
[04:01] <bob2> norhted: dpkg -l gnome-devel | tail -n1
[04:01] <bob2> Chambers`: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[04:02] <Chambers`> hey, after asking the question i saw the topic :P  thanks though :)
[04:02] <christian-> And where do I find new themes? This brown one is a bit of a bore... and the other defaults are even worse :)
[04:02] <_jason> mazzabr:  one sec, I'll find you that repo
[04:02] <kurtbec> anyone here made the switch from Gentoo to ubuntu and if so pros/cons?
[04:02] <wickedpuppy> christian-, have you tried searching for "gnome themes" in google ?
[04:02] <norhted> bob2, No packages found matching gnome-devel.
[04:02] <PhilH> art.gnome.org
[04:02] <_jason> mazzabr:  you just want the jre?
[04:02] <calc> how do you do vertical page alignment in oo.o ?
[04:03] <christian-> wickedpuppy, I'm still on my first hour of linux :/
[04:03] <bimberi> ubotu tell christian- about themes
[04:03] <bob2> norhted: didn't I suggest installing that half an hour ago?
[04:03] <mazzabr> _jason, just that.
[04:03] <wickedpuppy> christian-, also google ?
[04:03] <christian-> Gnome is the window manager ?
[04:03] <PhilH> metacity is the WM
[04:03] <mazzabr> _jason, I've tried a couple of them, but none worked.
[04:03] <PhilH> GNOME is the Desktop Environment
[04:03] <_jason> mazzabr:  have you tried: deb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ hoary java
[04:04] <wickedpuppy> christian-, pls don't confuse yourself ... if you use ubuntu .. you use gnome , if you use kubuntu , you use kde
[04:04] <mazzabr> _jason, not yet] 
[04:04] <heretico> mazzabr i cant see reference to sound card
[04:04] <christian-> and kde is another kind of window manager ?
[04:04] <Thunderguy> How many people are gonna be ordering breezy?
[04:05] <mazzabr> _jason, which package
[04:05] <_jason> Thunderguy:  already ordered
[04:05] <calc> Thunderguy: 1bil people
[04:05] <kurtbec> Thunderguy: me
[04:05] <_jason> mazzabr:  I have j2re 1.4 i think
[04:05] <Thunderguy> wow.
[04:05] <_jason> mazzabr:  i can check if that doesn't narrow it down
[04:05] <Thunderguy> Question: How does ubuntu finance all this?
[04:05] <wickedpuppy> christian-, get live cd for both ubuntu and kubuntu ... then see for yourself
[04:05] <cevizoglu> Thunderguy: already downloaded it twice and apt-get dist-upgraded to it twice
[04:05] <wickedpuppy> Thunderguy, most are volunteers ... and the founder is rich
[04:05] <bob832> speaking of themes in ubuntu, is there a way to change the splash screen that comes up after logging in?  not too fond of the brown
[04:06] <Thunderguy> Really rich?
[04:06] <cevizoglu> wickedpuppy: he's more of a benefactor, watch the go-open videos and see
[04:06] <wickedpuppy> bob832, try art.gnome.org
[04:06] <wickedpuppy> so he is not the founder ?
[04:06] <cevizoglu> Thunderguy: depends on your definition.. he sold thawte for $575 mil.
[04:07] <Thunderguy> Well I'd like to upgrade everyone I handed ubuntu cd's out too... think it would be too much costs on ubuntu if I re-ordered when breezy came out? I ordered 20 cd's last, I'm down to five now.
[04:07] <heretico> mazzabr i have 2.6.10-5-powerpc kernel
[04:07] <wickedpuppy> Thunderguy, pls don't stress yourself ... let them decide if they want to upgrade ...
[04:07] <boxman> a bit of a problem.. i just installed latest preview of ubuntu, which seemed to go smoothly.. but the thing is that it never asked me for a root password during the installation
[04:07] <wickedpuppy> boxman, cause root is disabled by default
[04:07] <boxman> all it asked for was to make a user
[04:07] <bob832> wickedpuppy:  quickly checked out that site and see that they are for gnome, are there any ubuntu ones out there?
[04:07] <wickedpuppy> you use sudo for everything
[04:08] <jcape> christian-: GNOME is the button bars at the edges of the screen, the preferred/default applications, the underlying code that ties it all together, a large chunk of the whole shebang.
[04:08] <wickedpuppy> bob832, ubuntu ... gnome ... kubuntu ... kde
[04:08] <boxman> wickedpuppy, how do you enable it and make a root user?
[04:08] <kurtbec> boxman: root account is disabled by default
[04:08] <JustinHH> i have just 34 mb free on my ubuntu partition
[04:08] <cevizoglu> wickedpuppy: it's all a matter of perspective, I guess
[04:08] <jcape> christian-: KDE is a different set of button bars, default applications, and underlying code.
[04:08] <wickedpuppy> boxman, sudo command
[04:08] <bimberi> boxman: some more info here - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[04:09] <JustinHH> i have just 34 mb free on my ubuntu partition. what schould i do to clean the not nececery packages
[04:09] <boxman> bimberi, thanks
[04:09] <JustinHH> i have just 34 mb free on my ubuntu partition. what schould i do to clean the not necesary packages
[04:09] <bimberi> boxman: yw :)
[04:09] <moshe> hey
[04:09] <Tortel> yay
[04:09] <Tortel> i got java working
[04:09] <Tortel> (finally)
[04:09] <wickedpuppy> JustinHH, whats ya harddisk size ?
[04:09] <dooglus> is it possible to download week-old versions of breezy packages somewhere?
[04:09] <Tortel> and possibly DVD playing
[04:09] <christian-> jcape, thank you. I'm pretty sure i "sorta get it" now :)
[04:09] <jcape> OK
[04:10] <moshe> quick question:  how do I use grep to search all files in a directory and all of its subdirectories for a string?
[04:10] <moshe> grep -r * ?
[04:10] <dooglus> "grep -r" moshe
[04:10] <_chavo> moshe, grep -r
[04:10] <cafuego_> morgrep string dir
[04:10] <wickedpuppy> moshe, man grep
[04:10] <cevizoglu> moshe: for a string in the files, or the filename itself?
[04:10] <moshe> string in the files
[04:11] <bretzel> hello :-) I forgot I am online here :-) == upgrade-ti-breezy seems done well -- cool!
[04:11] <cafuego_> moshe: via rgrep.
[04:11] <wickedpuppy> filename itself would be find ...
[04:11] <cevizoglu> moshe: grep -r "string" *
[04:11] <moshe> cevizoglu, thanks
[04:11] <moshe> that did it.
[04:11] <dooglus> Rgrep is the same as grep -r
[04:11] <moshe> good to know
[04:11] <bob832> wickedpuppy:  ok thanks
[04:11] <moshe> thanks, folks
[04:11] <jcape> dooglus: Yeah, but it's a debian/ubuntu thing
[04:11] <moshe> how's breezy coming?
[04:11] <moshe> looking forward to the upgrade
[04:12] <wickedpuppy> its already here moshe  :P
[04:12] <wickedpuppy> i am using it right now
[04:12] <moshe> oh, I just remembered a question that's been nagging me
[04:12] <cevizoglu> moshe: no complaints running breezy on my powerbook right now
[04:12] <moshe> In other distros I've used, switching runlevels will stop X from respawning.  Why doesn't this work in ubuntu?
[04:13] <JustinHH> wickedpuppy, i don't know. maybe 2 or 2,5 gb the partition and 40 de hdd but on the other partition i have got windows instaled
[04:13] <dooglus> moshe: because for some stupid reason gdm is in levels 2 AND 3
[04:13] <cevizoglu> moshe: which runlevel?  do you mean like sudo init 1?
[04:13] <moshe> I don't want to be in runlevel 1
[04:13] <wickedpuppy> you give 2.5 gig to linux and the rest to windows ?
[04:13] <dooglus> moshe: I would suggest taking it out of 2 and making 3 the default (if it isn't already)
[04:13] <JustinHH> yes
[04:13] <wickedpuppy> moshe, you are in run level 2 ...
[04:13] <moshe> wickedpuppy, I know
[04:13] <JustinHH> well actuay at first i just wanted to test linux
[04:13] <Tortel> good nite everyone!
[04:13] <moshe> so, if I went to runlevel four or five that would kill X?
[04:13] <JustinHH> +(swap extra)
[04:13] <JustinHH> "D
[04:14] <JustinHH> wickedpuppy, ......
[04:14] <wickedpuppy> ? 4 and 5 sure have x
[04:14] <cevizoglu> JustinHH: do you have an empty second drive bay?
[04:14] <norhted> bob2,  how can i install gnome-devel? i tried apt-get, but couldnt find the package : http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/378382
[04:14] <dooglus> moshe: try this: echo /etc/rc?.d/???gdm
[04:14] <wickedpuppy> JustinHH, really .... 3 gig is really small
[04:14] <JustinHH> cevizoglu,  i have just one hdd. what is a drive bay?
[04:14] <moshe> actually, I'm running kdm
[04:14] <moshe> could this be the reason?
[04:14] <dooglus> moshe: it'll show you which levels 's'tart gdm, and which 'k'ill it
[04:15] <cevizoglu> JustinHH: it's a slot for another hard drive
[04:15] <wickedpuppy> kdm ? you are using kde ?
[04:15] <moshe> I installed the system using the kubuntu cd, and then became enamored by xfce
[04:15] <moshe> :)
[04:15] <cevizoglu> JustinHH: including an extra cable to plug into it
[04:15] <JustinHH> i have an other slot but i do not have an other hdd
[04:15] <wickedpuppy> lol
[04:15] <wickedpuppy> try fluxbox ... even smaller + lighter + faster
[04:15] <cevizoglu> JustinHH: hmm. I know of some 40gb drives which cost like $20...
[04:16] <dooglus> moshe: it seems that (k)ubuntu just isn't meant to be used from the console.  why else put gdm in both levels 2 and 3
[04:16] <JustinHH> well i do not live in the usa....
[04:16] <cevizoglu> JustinHH: so?
[04:16] <JustinHH> and here a 40 gb hdd costs like 50-60 euros
[04:16] <JustinHH> and here a 40 gb hdd costs like 50-60 euro
[04:17] <bimberi> norhted: gnome-devel is in the "universe" repository, which you'll need to enable
[04:17] <wickedpuppy> no way!
[04:17] <JustinHH> or smth like that
[04:17] <cevizoglu> JustinHH: seriously, you need to shop around
[04:17] <bimberi> ubotu tell norhted about repositories
[04:17] <wickedpuppy> that means you are ripped off
[04:17] <JustinHH> i know
[04:17] <JustinHH> i am in the first year at the informatic university
[04:17] <JustinHH> moday is my first day
[04:18] <dooglus> is there a torrent for colony 5 where I can select which packages to download?  I don't want the whole thing
[04:18] <wickedpuppy> university already!!! you should know better!
[04:18] <JustinHH> well
[04:18] <cevizoglu> or some of the smaller drives people sometimes practically give away or throw away
[04:18] <JustinHH> here people don't realy use linux
[04:18] <wickedpuppy> neither here JustinHH ... i am in Singapore ...
[04:18] <bob2> norhted: dude
[04:18] <wickedpuppy> join local linux group or something ... :P
[04:19] <JustinHH> only when theyer hdd doesnt work any more and they must use a livecd to get on the net
[04:19] <JustinHH> :D
[04:19] <wickedpuppy> ok offtopic ... sorry
[04:19] <bob2> norhted: when someone suggests you install a package to fix a problem, and you try and it fails, you need to say that, instead of continuning on with what yo uwere doing before
[04:19] <joetheodd> Hey, has anyone had any trouble with xMMs completely dying (not responding at all, button even gets stuck down) when you try to play an MP3?
[04:19] <wickedpuppy> nope ...
[04:19] <bob2> norhted: /msg ubotu repository, enable universe
[04:19] <wickedpuppy> if so just kill it and restart it
[04:19] <bob2> joetheodd: did you configure it to use esound for output?
[04:20] <GnuKemist> joetheodd, it's happened to me when I chose the wrong output plugin
[04:20] <joetheodd> bob2: Nope.
[04:20] <joetheodd> GnuKemist: Alright, I'll check it out.
[04:20] <GnuKemist> joetheodd, good luck
[04:20] <JustinHH> wickedpuppy,  what's your time there in singapore?
[04:20] <norhted> bob2, ok
[04:20] <JustinHH> here is like 5.20am
[04:20] <joetheodd> bob2 and GnuKemist: Thanks a ton, fixed. =)
[04:20] <GnuKemist> joetheodd, woot!!! ;)
[04:21] <joetheodd> I didn't even have to do dist-upgrade! lol
[04:21] <wickedpuppy> JustinHH, try /ctcp time wickedpuppy
[04:21] <wickedpuppy> or is it /ctcp wickedpuppy time ?
[04:21] <joetheodd> Well, I can't exactly say that, because I'm already up to date =p
[04:21] <wickedpuppy> either one
[04:21] <wickedpuppy> lol
[04:21] <JustinHH> :D
[04:21] <JustinHH> sure
[04:21] <joetheodd> >wickedpuppy< CTCP TIME
[04:21] <joetheodd> -wickedpuppy- TIME Fri Sep 30 10:21:38
[04:21] <joetheodd> Happy friday over there.
[04:21] <joetheodd> =)
[04:21] <wickedpuppy> lol
[04:22] <JustinHH> here to
[04:22] <Carpe_Libertatem> When I try to run xtightvncviwer, I get this: xtightvncviewer: error while loading shared libraries: libXp.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:22] <wickedpuppy> thanks :P
[04:22] <JustinHH> :))
[04:22] <dcstimm> things linux needs, wmv, and mp3 support native in the distro, if we need to ship with it then fine. mplayerplug-in plugins for mozilla for full screen video.. then its fine
[04:22] <JustinHH> i must get some sleep
[04:22] <JustinHH> nite 2 all
[04:22] <wickedpuppy> nite dude
[04:22] <JustinHH> nite wickedpuppy
[04:23] <wickedpuppy> read some linux books JustinHH
[04:23] <Carpe_Libertatem> People need to stop using MP3s, really.
[04:23] <heretico> ogg please
[04:23] <wickedpuppy> surely your uni got library :P
[04:23] <JustinHH> if i can get some
[04:23] <JustinHH> :D
[04:23] <Carpe_Libertatem> MP3 is obsolete imho.
[04:23] <JustinHH> well
[04:23] <breakthestate> if i use wget to get a file don't tell it where to put the file, where did it go?
[04:23] <JustinHH> school" begins just monday
[04:23] <Carpe_Libertatem> Ahem, When I try to run xtightvncviwer, I get this: xtightvncviewer: error while loading shared libraries: libXp.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:23] <JustinHH> they need 2 months until they work
[04:23] <JustinHH> :D
[04:23] <wickedpuppy> JustinHH, to motivate ya ... chicks dig geeks
[04:24] <JustinHH> and 2 buy one....
[04:24] <wickedpuppy> read more and get chicks
[04:24] <Mik0r> I get this "C compiler cannot create executables" error, and I read that you need the new binutils to fix it, but I have the latest binutils and I still get it
[04:24] <JustinHH> :)))
[04:24] <JustinHH> looool
[04:24] <bimberi> breakthestate: in the directory where you ran the command
[04:24] <JustinHH> do you have an instant messageing program wickedpuppy ?
[04:24] <wickedpuppy> JustinHH, read the pm ... :P
[04:25] <bob2> Carpe_Libertatem: what does "which xtightvncviwer" print out?
[04:25] <bob2> Mik0r: install build-essential
[04:25] <wickedpuppy> Mik0r, can tell us more ?
[04:25] <Mik0r> on moment, I am doing the linux-headers
[04:25] <joetheodd> Mik0r: sudo apt-get -y install build-essential
[04:26] <Carpe_Libertatem> bob2, /usr/bin/xtightvncviewer
[04:26] <heretico> unable to get my sound working on ubuntu g4 install
[04:26] <heretico> dmesg doesnt seem to recognise any soundcard
[04:26] <heretico> any ideas ?
[04:26] <bob2> Carpe_Libertatem: install libxp6
[04:27] <GnuKemist> heretico, does lspci show the card?
[04:27] <Carpe_Libertatem> bob2, danke schoen
[04:28] <breakthestate> bimberi, i'm looking in that directory, will the name be the same as the url?
[04:28] <Mik0r> what is libncurses?
[04:29] <wickedpuppy> its library for ncurses
[04:29] <bimberi> breakthestate: depends, what was the url?
[04:29] <Mik0r> hmm
[04:29] <heretico> doesnt seem to GnuKemist
[04:29] <Mik0r> it wont let me apt-get ncurses
[04:29] <Mik0r> =/
[04:29] <breakthestate> bimberi: http://mirrors.easynews.com/linux/slackware/slackware-10.2-iso/slackware-10.2-install-d1.iso
[04:30] <bob2> Mik0r: you can't just invent package names
[04:30] <bob2> Mik0r: what are yo utrying to compile
[04:30] <heretico> no, nothing
[04:30] <bob2> ?
[04:30] <Mik0r> kismet
[04:30] <bimberi> breakthestate: in that case there should be a file called slackware-10.2-install-d1.iso
[04:30] <GnuKemist> heretico, that sucks
[04:30] <heretico> jeje
[04:30] <bob2> Mik0r: kismet is in ubunt already
[04:30] <heretico> yes
[04:30] <Mik0r> hmm
[04:30] <breakthestate> yeah, i can't find... i accidentally was in /media when i downloaded and it finished and it's not showing up
[04:30] <Mik0r> not in my version...
[04:30] <bob2> Mik0r: yes, it is
[04:31] <Mik0r> where is it at then..
[04:31] <bob2> Mik0r: perhaps you forgot to enable universe? /msg ubotu repository
[04:31] <bimberi> breakthestate: sudo updatedb; locate slackware
[04:31] <mahangu> apt-get cant find smeg
[04:31] <mahangu> do i have to enable backports?
[04:31] <wickedpuppy> mahangu, have you enabled multiverse and universe ?
 I don't know, Mik0r
[04:32] <wickedpuppy> repositories ?
[04:32] <Carpe_Libertatem> !tell me about codecs
[04:32] <bob2> !+repositories
[04:32] <ubotu> repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy))
[04:32] <bob2> Mik0r: ^^
[04:32] <dooglus> breakthestate: look at the wget output in your terminal.  the bit after '=>' is where it is writing to
[04:32] <dooglus> I see:            => `slackware-10.2-install-d1.iso'
[04:33] <dooglus> meaning it's writing to a file called slackware-10.2-install-d1.iso in the current directory
[04:33] <heretico> GnuKemist anything i can do about it ?
[04:33] <GnuKemist> not sure...  what card do u have?
[04:34] <dooglus> breakthestate: if you don't have permission to write to the current directory, you'll see Cannot write to `slackware-10.2-install-d1.iso' (Permission denied).
[04:34] <breakthestate> dooglus:  i was in a root shell
[04:34] <heretico> GnuKemist its an apple G4
[04:34] <GnuKemist> heretico, the sound card I meant
[04:34] <cruxdestruct> hey everybody; i've got a quick question
[04:35] <dooglus> breakthestate: fair enough.  that doesn't change anything I told you
[04:35] <breakthestate> bimberi and dooglus: i'm running "sudo updatedb; locate slackware"
[04:35] <heretico> GnuKemist AWACS
[04:35] <Remmelas> so, lost my frame buffer splash screen and get pure text boot screens now, anyone know how to restore?
[04:35] <bimberi> breakthestate: thought so, updatedb takes a while :)
[04:35] <bimberi> breakthestate: ... for some anyway
[04:35] <_n00blar_> hi all, what's the program I can use to modify grub's menu.lst file? I saw it once, but can't find it anymore, lol
[04:36] <breakthestate> dooglus: good thing is i didn't see the permission denied message
[04:36] <dooglus> breakthestate: you see it immediately - not at the end :)
[04:36] <dooglus> ie. it doesn't download 700Mb of CD image and then fail...
[04:36] <breakthestate> bimberi: my output was /usr/share/gnome-system-tools/pixmaps/slackware.p
[04:37] <dooglus> ng
[04:37] <Mik0r> hmm
[04:37] <Mik0r> kismet is not in repositories...
[04:37] <dooglus> it's in universe, Mik0r
[04:37] <bimberi> breakthestate: seems the download didn't work then :|
[04:38] <Mik0r> oh
[04:38] <mahangu> apt-get cant find smeg
[04:38] <mahangu> do i have to enable backports?
[04:38] <breakthestate> bimberi, dooglus: oh well, i guess i should specifiy a directory
[04:38] <hou5ton> trying to get w32codecs ... i downloaded them from the mplayer site and it said to put them in /usr/local/lib/codecs  ... they are currently in a ...tar.bz2    do I just move them to /usr/local/lib/codecs and extract?
[04:38] <No1Viking> What's up with the hoary backports, are they gone forever?
[04:39] <dooglus> breakthestate: what was the exact wget command you typed?
[04:39] <nomasteryoda|w> No1Viking, yes...
[04:39] <nomasteryoda|w> looks like it
[04:39] <nomasteryoda|w> since they need backports in breezy... i believe
[04:39] <breakthestate> bimberi: root@ubuntu:/media# wget http://mirrors.easynews.com/linux/slackware/slackware-1 0.2-iso
[04:39] <bimberi> No1Viking: as i understand it, the only backports now are in the official ubuntu repotories
[04:39] <Xorlev> Having problems with VMware Virtual Workstation. Error message: kde-config: /usr/lib/vmware/lib/libpng12.so.0/libpng12.so.0: no version information available (required by /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3). Any ideas?
[04:40] <dooglus> breakthestate: aah.  you should have used ".iso" at the end.
[04:40] <nomasteryoda|w> Xorlev, did yo install "build-essential"?
[04:40] <wickedpuppy> Xorlev, i assume its genuine vmware ?
[04:40] <wickedpuppy> in that case they do have customer support ... don't they ?
[04:40] <dooglus> breakthestate: did you see a "404 NOT FOUND" error?
[04:40] <breakthestate> dooglus: as a parameter
[04:40] <nomasteryoda|w> wickedpuppy, and the QT build libs
[04:40] <wickedpuppy> i thought thats why people pay for products ...
[04:40] <dooglus> breakthestate: in the URL
[04:40] <Xorlev> wickedpuppy: Yes
[04:40] <No1Viking> bimberi: Where are the official list?
[04:40] <nomasteryoda|w> wickedpuppy, but you have to pay after a certain time
[04:40] <Xorlev> nomasteryoda|w: Obviously.
[04:41] <bimberi> ubotu tell No1Viking about backports
[04:41] <breakthestate> dooglus: i got "301 Moved Permanently"
[04:41] <breakthestate> and then it moved to somewhere else and just downloaded an index.html file
[04:41] <No1Viking> bimberi: Thanks!
[04:41] <dooglus> breakthestate: could you paste the whole thing to pastebin?
[04:41] <dooglus> !paste
[04:41] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[04:41] <Xorlev> My support already ran out :\
[04:41] <breakthestate> dooglus yeah
[04:42] <breakthestate> dooglus: joing the pastebin chatroom?
[04:42] <bimberi> No1Viking: yw :)
[04:42] <nomasteryoda|w> no really Xorlev did you install the development packages?
[04:42] <dooglus> breakthestate: I meant the pastebin website.
[04:42] <nomasteryoda|w> i had that same issue with version 5 on this laptop
[04:42] <breakthestate> gotcha
[04:42] <dooglus> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:42] <nomasteryoda|w> you also have to set the GCC ....
[04:43] <heretico> GnuKemist that doesnt help ?
[04:44] <dooglus> breakthestate: go to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl , paste into the form, click 'send', tell me the URL.  you can leave all the fields blank
[04:44] <GnuKemist> heretico, hold on...  phone
[04:44] <breakthestate> dooglus: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2650
[04:44] <dooglus> ta
[04:45] <No1Viking> !tell me about repos
[04:46] <Master-Tricky> Hey could someone please help me? I'm a total newbie and I tried out the Ubuntu Live CD to see how it is and stuff, but I get an "X Server could not be loaded" error and it says "fatal server error: no screens found" How can I fix this and if I install it on my hard drive, will this error still occur? (Sorry for long message and interrupting :-P)
[04:46] <wickedpuppy> breakthestate, can you do ls ?
[04:46] <dooglus> breakthestate: that's weird
[04:46] <wickedpuppy> you do not see the iso ?
[04:46] <wickedpuppy> thats really strange
[04:46] <dooglus> breakthestate: see the "utime(slackware-10.2-install-d1.iso): No such file or directory" line?  the file had gone before wget exited.
[04:46] <maximaus> What are my chances of upgrading to the latest Breezy pre-release from Hoary without total catastrophe? :P
[04:47] <breakthestate> dooglus: yeah, but it says it saved somehwere right??
[04:47] <wickedpuppy> maximaus, very big
[04:47] <wickedpuppy> i am using it
[04:47] <dooglus> breakthestate: it is possible you (or someone else) removed the file as it was downloading?
[04:47] <breakthestate> wickepuppy:  i did ls in that directory and it didn't show up
[04:47] <Carpe_Libertatem> Is there anything like expose for Ubuntu?
[04:47] <breakthestate> dooglus: i don't think so, i was here the whole time
[04:47] <wickedpuppy> dooglus, unlikely ... won't the file be locked by wget ?
[04:48] <maximaus> wickedpuppy, you just changed the sources and did a dist-upgrade?
[04:48] <wickedpuppy> maximaus, i did it a month or so ago
[04:48] <wickedpuppy> yup ... my X did crashed... besides that nothing exciting happened
[04:48] <maximaus> Wheeee X crash! what fixed it?
[04:49] <wickedpuppy> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:49] <wickedpuppy> it says how to fix it
[04:49] <wickedpuppy> lol
[04:49] <wickedpuppy> read the comment on the top
[04:49] <maximaus> Cool!
[04:49] <wickedpuppy> not cool ... i thought something worse would happen
[04:50] <maximaus> Remind this cretin of what console text editor will be available for me to fix that.
[04:50] <wickedpuppy> try upgrading from windows xp to vista
[04:50] <maximaus> LOL
[04:50] <breakthestate> wicked or dooglus: how do i tell wget to put the file in a specific directory
[04:50] <wickedpuppy> maximaus, ... there is always vi
[04:50] <wickedpuppy> breakthestate, go to that directory and type the command ?
[04:50] <norhted> bimberi, bob2, thanx i installed required elements and everything is working fine now ;)
[04:50] <maximaus> Eek. I'll probably apt-get nano, as I'm not too bright.
[04:51] <bimberi> norhted: onya :)
[04:51] <wickedpuppy> maximaus, vi is default on all linux/unix ... strongly suggest you know how to open/save/exit
[04:51] <_n00blar_> I used to have Windows XP as part of grub (in menu.lst), but now it's gone...how do I add it back?
[04:51] <dooglus> breakthestate: I just tried an experiment.  I used wget to download a file, and deleted the file while it was downloading
[04:51] <wickedpuppy> _n00blar_, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:51] <maximaus> wickedpuppy, I can probably figure it out. :P
[04:52] <dooglus> breakthestate: the result looks exactly like what you saw.  wget doesn't notice the file has gone until the end, when you get a 'utime' error.  see http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2651 for a log.
[04:52] <_n00blar_> wickedpuppy, I know, but I can't figure out the syntax for Windows
[04:52] <bimberi> Master-Tricky: It's not a good sign for a smooth install.  Perhaps check your video card here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCards
[04:52] <dooglus> breakthestate: perhaps there's something in ubuntu which clears out /media periodically - I don't know
[04:52] <wickedpuppy> eh ah ... that you got to ask someone who is dual-booting here
[04:52] <wickedpuppy> i am all linux
[04:52] <maximaus> One last query: you supposedly need to remove backports before upgrading--how do you locate those? :dunno:
[04:52] <breakthestate> wickedpuppy: just type "?"
[04:52] <wickedpuppy> maximaus, remove backports ?
[04:52] <_n00blar_> wickedpuppy, yeah, I have to dual boot for vpn access and WoW, hehe
[04:53] <maximaus> I heard backports could bork an upgrade.
[04:53] <wickedpuppy> i did no such thing ... i just dist-upgrade
[04:53] <wickedpuppy> i am confused .. ?
[04:53] <Master-Tricky> bimberi: It's not in the list so I assume that means I have to somehow manually set it up?  My card is an ATI Radeon x800xl
[04:53] <dooglus> _n00blar_: did you try package 'vpnc' for VPN access?  it works well for me.  And apparently WoW works well under cedega (or whatever it's called)
[04:54] <bimberi> maximaus: disable them by commenting them out in sources.list or by unchecking them in Synaptic (Settings -> Repositories)
[04:54] <bimberi> maximaus: don't forget to update (reload) after doing so
[04:54] <Carpe_Libertatem> Does anyone of anything like OS X's expose for Ubuntu?
[04:54] <breakthestate> dooglus: thing is, i was actually in /home/username/packages
[04:54] <bimberi> Master-Tricky: i don't know for sure, there are nonfree ati drivers available which might work for you
[04:55] <bimberi> ubotu tell Master-Tricky about ati
[04:55] <maximaus> bimberi, I'll certainly do that. I just heard, probably heresay, that installed backports could be a problem. No biggie, I'm a dual booter and can just do a reg install if it all goes to hell. LOL
[04:55] <breakthestate> dooglus:  I think I'll just do it over to a different directory and see what happens
[04:55] <maximaus> Carpe_Libertatem, 3D-desktop I think it's called
[04:55] <bimberi> maximaus: hehe k
[04:55] <wickedpuppy> maximaus, wait a few days and get a reg install from released ubuntu ?
[04:55] <cruxdestruct> Nutzungsvereinbarung
[04:56] <maximaus> wickedpuppy, the live CD made me horny, I need it now.
[04:56] <dooglus> Carpe_Libertatem: I didn't know what expose was.  There's a movie here http://images.apple.com/movies/us/apple/tiger_sitedemos/apple-tiger-expose.mov if anyone else doesn't.
[04:56] <bimberi> maximaus: too much information :P
[04:56] <GhostFreeman> Can I build apt packages from the source code
[04:56] <wickedpuppy> lol
[04:57] <_n00blar_> dooglus, Wow locks up too much using wine or cedega...and vpnc only supports pptp
[04:57] <maximaus> Carpe_Libertatem: http://desk3d.sourceforge.net/
[04:57] <wickedpuppy> GhostFreeman, yup ... you can!
[04:57] <maximaus> available via apt. Pretty neat.
[04:57] <GhostFreeman> let me guess... apt-get source <package>
[04:57] <Carpe_Libertatem> maximaus, thanks, I'll check it out
[04:58] <dooglus> _n00blar_: I read recently that WoW runs well if you - um I can't remember what you had to do now...
[04:58] <dooglus> _n00blar_: and what's pptp?
[04:58] <Carpe_Libertatem> Hmm, this seems similar but a bit more graphically intense.
[04:58] <maximaus> Carpe_Libertatem, don't even look at it if you don't have hardware acceleration on your graphics card. :P
[04:58] <Carpe_Libertatem> I do, but that's not exactly what expose is anyway
[04:58] <Master-Tricky> bimberi: A lot of the isntructions say to reboot my computer, if I'm using the Live CD, will this still work?
[04:59] <GhostFreeman> Expose just resizes the windows to fit on screen, right?
[04:59] <heretico> and for Spotlight - like there is beagle
[04:59] <maximaus> dunno, but 3d-desktop shows them all as a crazy rotating carousel.
[04:59] <Carpe_Libertatem> GhostFreeman, you press a button, and all the windows display on the screen like a bunch of thumbnails almost
[04:59] <bimberi> Master-Tricky: no, it's about an installation i'm afraid :(
[04:59] <GhostFreeman> I knew that much
[05:00] <GhostFreeman> I use Expose a lot on OS X86 and I also run skippy on all my systems
[05:00] <Carpe_Libertatem> ahh
[05:00] <Carpe_Libertatem> My processor can't run OS X86 :-P
[05:00] <maximaus> Skippy tends to gum up my cpu fan.
[05:00] <esac> is there anything for linux like windows zero wireless configuration, ESPECIALLY when switching between wireless networks
[05:00] <bimberi> Master-Tricky: not sure if that made sense but i think you know what i meant :)
[05:01] <Master-Tricky> bimberi: So should I just go ahead and install it?...And what are the chances that something will go wrong when using the installer to partition my WinXP NTFS hard drive? I'm really not in the mood to backup all of my stuff....
[05:01] <maximaus> esac, look into kismet and airsnort (haven't used them, but they might be useful)
[05:01] <Master-Tricky> bimberi: Obviously, I'm planning on using a dual-boot
[05:01] <Carpe_Libertatem> Hmm, there's Kompose for KDE, but I use Gnome.
[05:02] <oblib> How do I create a boot disk to boot straight into Ubuntu from a floppy?
[05:02] <_n00blar_> dooglus, Point-to-Point Tunneling Protocol...my office uses L2TP instead
[05:03] <GhostFreeman> how do I delete a directory
[05:03] <bimberi> Master-Tricky: you can go ahead, gee i would be backing up though, i can say that i haven't seen anyone coming here saying "the resize killed my windows partition" (others may differ)
[05:03] <oblib> GhostFreeman: rm -R
[05:03] <GhostFreeman> there we go, thanks
[05:03] <Mik0r> how do I logout of a gnome session to login to a diffrent wm
[05:03] <GhostFreeman> too many text commands to memorize
[05:03] <maxi-away> Master-Tricky, just make sure to defrag any NTFS you resize.
[05:04] <oblib> yeah
[05:04] <Carpe_Libertatem> ooooooo, Breezy now lets me eject a cd just by pressing the button on my drive
[05:04] <maxi-away> Mik0r, System/log out
[05:04] <Thunderguy> oblib: I'd have to look that one up, but I believe by choosing "rescue" as a boot option from the Ubuntu disk you can recover it.
[05:04] <maxi-away> Carpe_Libertatem, I can do that with Hoary. :P
[05:04] <oblib> Thunderguy: Boot from the Install disc?
[05:04] <bimberi> Mik0r: System -> Logout, then choose a different item from the Session menu when you log back in
[05:05] <Carpe_Libertatem> maxi-away, it didn't do it by default for me
[05:05] <Thunderguy> I believe so.
[05:05] <Master-Tricky> bimberi: Okay, I think I'm gonna go for it and resize it....Thank you for your help, I should be back :P
[05:05] <bimberi> Master-Tricky: good luck :)
[05:05] <oblib> is there an easy way to get a type someones nick without typing it all out?
[05:06] <_jason> oblib:  start typing it, then hit tab
[05:06] <oblib> _jason, thanks
[05:06] <esac> so the splash screen when logging in got better. but it is still fugly brown. how can i change it ?
[05:06] <maxi-away> esac, I suggest changing your decor to match. {gets coat}
[05:06] <gnuyen> Hi guys, has anyone found packages for mythtv in breezy?
[05:06] <gnuyen> I just need the frontend
[05:07] <gnuyen> but it's not in breezy
[05:07] <esac> maxi-away: smear chocolate or crap on my screen ? ok :)
[05:08] <drapelyk> I'm a dummy, but isn't there a command I can run to download a file to a specific directory?
[05:08] <thoreauputic> drapelyk: wget from that target dir
[05:08] <drapelyk> sweet, thanks
[05:08] <drapelyk> wget "url" right?
[05:08] <thoreauputic> yes
[05:09] <WhiteRabbit> kget it yes
[05:09] <thoreauputic> or wget -c
[05:09] <WhiteRabbit> or curl it even
[05:09] <drapelyk> ok, thanks
[05:09] <oblib> Anyone know how to make a boot floppy from within Ubuntu that will boot me to Ubuntu?
[05:10] <oblib> Thunderguy, I'll try your idea later
[05:11] <thoreauputic> oblib: mkboot (but not sure if the newer kernels will fir on a floppy)
[05:11] <ali4728> help needed Just installed courierImap /etc/init.d/courier start Error :
[05:11] <ali4728> bash: /etc/init.d/courier: No such file or directory  ! What can I do?
[05:11] <thoreauputic> s/fir/fit
[05:11] <maxi-away> drapelyk, wget -c simply resumes a previous download in that directory., fwiw.
[05:11] <oblib> lilo required for that, and I don't have lilo
[05:12] <sgteich> evening
[05:13] <thoreauputic> oblib: are you sure? I don't see that in the man page
[05:13] <inc|freaky> hi all. my soundcard isnt working i tried running alsaconf but there is no alsaconf anywhere. apt-file search alsaconf returns nothing and apt-get install alsaconf returns nothing. alsa-utils package is installed.
[05:13] <thoreauputic> inc|freaky: there's no alsaconf in ubuntu
[05:13] <oblib> I tried it already thoreauputic
[05:13] <inc|freaky> thoreauputic: so where do i configure sound?
[05:13] <oblib> thoreauputic, I just installed lilo though, we'll see if it works
[05:14] <thoreauputic> inc|freaky: I'm not a sound expert I fear - I assume you ran alsamixer and checked for muted chanels?
[05:14] <inc|freaky> yes i did
[05:14] <thoreauputic> OK
[05:14] <oblib> thoreauputic, now I get "Fatal: No images have been defined." Any idea on that?
[05:15] <h0sl3r> When I close my laptop on breezy my wireless internet stops. I cant download anything when my laptop lid is closed. How can I fix this?
[05:15] <bob2> find out what's really happening
[05:15] <thoreauputic> inc|freaky: all I know is alsaconf has been deprecated ("it caused more problems than it fixed" was what I recall hearing
[05:15] <Versed> keep it up?
[05:15] <jsubl2> inc|freaky: what are you trying to play
[05:15] <inc|freaky> .mp3 files using amarok
[05:15] <inc|freaky> nothing works
[05:15] <thoreauputic> oblib: hmm - no, sorry
[05:16] <Versed> thoreau all kidding aside what laptop?
[05:16] <jsubl2> inc|freaky: did you install mp3 support
[05:16] <inc|freaky> jsubl2: how to do that?
[05:16] <inc|freaky> jsubl2: but i think i did stuff played good before
[05:16] <thoreauputic> Versed: ?
[05:16] <oblib> ubotu mp3 ?
[05:16] <ubotu> hmm... mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[05:16] <Versed> Because when I installed ubuntu on my G4 450 it installed all the ibook/powerbook battery savings stuff on it.
[05:16] <jsubl2> inc|freaky: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:17] <Versed> what kind of laptop??
[05:17] <Versed> and did it install the wifi drivers?
[05:17] <thoreauputic> Versed: what are you talking about?
[05:17] <Xorlev> Having problems with VMware Virtual Workstation. Error message: kde-config: /usr/lib/vmware/lib/libpng12.so.0/libpng12.so.0: no version information available (required by /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3). Any ideas?
[05:18] <bob2> go vmware, it's your birthday
[05:18] <_n00blar_> anyone dual booting with XP that can show me the menu.lst section for xp? somehow after yesterday's update my menu.lst lost the windows section
[05:18] <bob2> also, that sould only be a warning, not a fatal error
[05:18] <Versed> soory thoreau, wrong person.
[05:18] <wickedpuppy> inc|freaky, i am playing mp3 with amarok ... it can play mp3 that i can assure you
[05:18] <Xorlev> It seems to cause a fatal error though
[05:18] <maximaus> _n00blar_, give me a sec and I'll /msg you
[05:18] <thoreauputic> Versed: OK
[05:18] <Xorlev> Unable to initialize host: Message
[05:19] <_n00blar_> maximaus, ty
[05:20] <ali4728> bob2, my freshly installed courierImap wont start (/etc/init.d/courier start bash: /etc/init.d/courier: No such file or directory) how  can start it?
[05:20] <bob2> er
[05:20] <IcemanV9> _n00blar_: yep, it does overwrite menu.lst when it was updated (happened to me before) .. it would be a good idea to backup menu.lst somewhere
[05:20] <bob2> that seems pretty clear
[05:22] <bob2> anyway, it started when yo uinstalled it
[05:22] <bob2> so no need to run anything
[05:23] <_n00blar_> IcemanV9, yeah, I'm doing it now..
[05:23] <_n00blar_> there used to be an app (gui interface) that allowed me to modify menu.lst. I can't find or remember its name
[05:24] <levander> There's any good recipe database software for Linux?
[05:25] <Phily> levander: MySQL
[05:25] <levander> hello?! this room has NEVER been this quiet
[05:25] <nomasteryoda|w> levander, did you search apt
[05:25] <Phily> levander: hello hello this is your echo
[05:25] <P229> levander: mmm, sounds like a good program to have
[05:25] <levander> Phily: i must be in a bad mood because the mysql answer did manage to irritate me
[05:25] <dooglus> krecipes - cooking book for KDE
[05:26] <bimberi> levander: i can only find qbrew :) (in the repos that is)
[05:26] <Phily> levander: sorry
[05:26] <levander> dooglus: you're saying that's good program, or just found it in apt?
[05:26] <eagleye> Has anyone tried mupen64, if so, Can you help me install it.
[05:26] <dooglus> qbrew - Homebrewer's recipe calculator (uses Qt)
[05:26] <Phily> levander: how about using the web
[05:26] <dooglus> levander: I never tried either of them.
[05:26] <ali4728> bob2, I cant stop it (courier) either,it gives me the same error, ( No such file or directory) how do I know it is running?
[05:26] <inc|freaky> it works now thx :)
[05:27] <Phily> ali4728: pidof "nameof application"
[05:27] <bimberi> ali4728: try /etc/init.d/courier-imap
[05:27] <levander> Phily: because I figured I wouldn't get a bunch of smartasses in this room who might know of one they've used personally and thought was good?
[05:27] <maximaus> _n00blar_,  it's called "grubconf"
[05:27] <bob2> ali4728: you can't just make up names of scripts, the one you're trying to run just does not exist
[05:27] <bob2> ali4728: ls /etc/init.d/
[05:27] <_n00blar_> maximaus, the gui app?
[05:27] <Phily> levander: sorry again but the way I read your question was a recioy for database usage
[05:28] <bob2> ali4728: it'll be courier-imap, etc
[05:28] <Remmelas> is there a way to find out which package provides an executable, in other words, how to find the package tha provides the command you want to install
[05:28] <ali4728> bimberi, thnx I got it bow
[05:28] <levander> Phily: i'm joking with you, i didn't really care that you made silly answer
[05:28] <bob2> Remmelas: aptfile or packages.ubuntu.com
[05:28] <bob2> er, apt-file
[05:28] <bimberi> ali4728: yw :)
[05:28] <P229> levander: never even knew there was such a thing... but if you find a good one, it'd be cool to know about it
[05:28] <maximaus> _n00blar_, yarr
[05:29] <Remmelas> bob2: tyvm
[05:29] <thoreauputic> I've heard of krecipes - but it doesn't seem to show up in apt-cache search here...
[05:29] <dooglus> thoreauputic: maybe it's a breezy thang?
[05:29] <inc|freaky> I really start liking ubuntu :)
[05:29] <thoreauputic> dunno
[05:29] <dooglus>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages
[05:29] <CarlFK> I just did tee file instead of tail file, so now I have a 0 length file.  ext2 fs - aren't there some recovery tools?
[05:29] <thoreauputic> dooglus: Oh I see - you found it in breezy?
[05:30] <dooglus> yar
[05:30] <thoreauputic> right
[05:30] <CarlFK> I have used krecipes - I built it from source
[05:30] <Phily> export DISPLAY=192.168.0.101:0.0
[05:30] <Phily> oops
[05:30] <maximaus> _n00blar_, unfortunately I don't see it via apt. Editing by hand isn't particularly hard though.
[05:30] <Phily> levander: why don't you try www.bigoven.com they have an  RSS feed for recipes "feed" get it
[05:30] <dooglus> "sudo apt-get install krecipes" ==> "After unpacking 69.9MB of additional disk space will be used".  That's a lot of recipes!!!
[05:30] <_n00blar_> maximaus, yes, I just did that...will reboot soon
[05:31] <_n00blar_> ty
[05:31] <thoreauputic> dooglus: woah!
[05:31] <levander> Phily: you've used that site, or just found it with google?
[05:31] <dooglus> thoreauputic: (I'm kindof cheating - that count includes all the KDE dependancies)
[05:32] <thoreauputic> dooglus: I just thought of that possibility ;)
[05:32] <bimberi> dooglus: lol
[05:32] <Phily> my girlfriend uses RSS feed on her cough "window machine"
[05:32] <dooglus> they won't be staying on my hd unless krecipes is really special :)
[05:32] <CarlFK> BigOven Starter Edition.....   $9.95 - no Linux ver...
[05:32] <wickedpuppy> After unpacking 9466kB of additional disk space will be used. <-- this is my kreceipes
[05:33] <thoreauputic> wickedpuppy: ah, you have KDE stuff already, clearly
[05:33] <maximaus> LOL, I just keep my recipes in plain text or in me brain. :P
[05:33] <dooglus> is "RSS feed" a recipe program?
[05:33] <P229> lol
[05:34] <oneifreak> maximaus, or even simpler, cook till burnt
[05:34] <Phily> maximaus: I usually use my creativity for recipes
[05:34] <thoreauputic> maximaus: pencil and paper are deprecated, haven't you heard ? <grin>
[05:34] <Phily> thoreauputic: I really use a computer when cooking execpt when I,m cooking egs on my intel processor
[05:34] <bimberi> levander: look what you've gone and started! :)
[05:34] <thoreauputic> hahah
[05:35] <dooglus> is there any way of undoing a breezy update?
[05:35] <thoreauputic> Phily: I heard AMD is quicker for cooking
[05:35] <PeerSoft> hello.. I am going to get UBUNTU linux
[05:35] <PeerSoft> but..
[05:35] <sgteich> I thought only AMD was good for cooking.....
[05:35] <PeerSoft> will my 56k modem PCTEL PLATINUM V.90 work on it?
[05:35] <Phily> thoreauputic: imagine having an intel + windows oven: All your data has been lost please reformat your oven
[05:35] <PeerSoft> im going to download it @ my mother in laws house using broadband
[05:36] <Phily> PeerSoft: PCTEL = winmodem = goodlock
[05:36] <ilpavox> is there an easy way to convert a plane old compressed source into a deb file so i can uninstall the binary easily
[05:36] <PeerSoft> thats what i thought
[05:36] <P229> PeerSoft: get a serial modem
[05:36] <thoreauputic> Phily: pease read the EULA carefully: this meal may not be distributed or served on any non-Windows tables
[05:36] <PeerSoft> how much are they?
[05:36] <Phily> PeerSoft: google it I think PCTEL is supported
[05:37] <PeerSoft> well most newer versions of linux a friend of mine says. should have updated drivers to make a winmodem work on linux or some shit like that
[05:37] <bimberi> PeerSoft: it *might* work with the smartlink drivers but ymmv
[05:37] <Phily> thoreauputic: If you do not have more than one license you may not share your recipe with third parties!
[05:37] <maximaus> PeerSoft, I got a modem for $20usd on Ebay when I used dial up. Worked great.
[05:37] <P229> PeerSoft: I got mine for $30, but I'm sure you could get one for less. heck, my employer just threw out several 28 Kbps serial modems
[05:37] <PeerSoft> i dont want 28
[05:37] <PeerSoft> lol
[05:37] <PeerSoft> thats for sure
[05:38] <PeerSoft> dont wanna go any slower than I already am going
[05:38] <Phily> PeerSoft: If you pay shipping I,ll give you my usrobotic pci modem
[05:38] <PeerSoft> how much would shipping cost?
[05:38] <Phily> Phily: Its been sitting in a box for over 5 years
[05:38] <P229> PeerSoft: well, you can get a good 56 Kbps serial modem for ~$30
[05:38] <CarlFK> PeerSoft 0 there is a script around somewhere that will do a pretty good job at figuring out what you have and what it will take to make it work
[05:39] <Phily> PeerSoft: Try a live distro that script is usually included
[05:39] <maximaus> I've got an ISA USR modem, that I'll post for free if you're in the US and have ISA ports.
[05:39] <PeerSoft> yea im going to download both cdimages
[05:39] <PeerSoft> the live CD
[05:39] <PeerSoft> and the install
[05:39] <PeerSoft> maximaus, i dont even know what ISA ports are lol
[05:39] <P229> are they still sending out free CDs?
[05:39] <Phily> PeerSoft: give me your shipping adress and I,ll ship a cd thru slow mail
[05:40] <maximaus> ISA slots I mean.
[05:40] <dooglus> PeerSoft: you might find that your modem is supported anyway.  http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/pctel-linux/welcome.html
[05:40] <CarlFK> PeerSoft http://www.linmodems.org
[05:40] <PeerSoft> never heard of ISA ;x
[05:40] <CarlFK> bam!
[05:40] <sgteich> P229:Yes, I ordered some this week
[05:40] <Phily> maximaus: If your computer is 3 or 4 years old good chance no ISA
[05:40] <maximaus> yup, that's why I went serial a while back (but now on DSL, thank heavens)
[05:41] <PeerSoft> phily query me
[05:41] <WhiteRabbit> Phily, in 3 to 4 years from now we will be saying a good chance of having 1 pci slot among the pci express slots lol
[05:41] <dabaR> hi
[05:41] <P229> I got a serial modem even after having DSL because I wanted to be able to do some telnet
[05:42] <Phily> WhiteRabbit: Well I,ll keep my computer I have lots of PCI hardware
[05:42] <dabaR> P229: telnet like what?
[05:42] <WhiteRabbit> 3 to 4 years I'll be running a optical processor hopefully
[05:42] <P229> dabaR: dial into my school's VAX
[05:43] <maxi-away> heck, in 3-4 years we'll all be running terminals from the Google server... [goes to make a g&t] 
[05:43] <dabaR> P229: how does that relate to telnet? isnt telnet like, I can telnet to my university's computer through the terminal...
[05:43] <Phily> dabaR: we have vax at work but cant get parts anymore!!
[05:44] <dooglus> dabaR: yes.  you can telnet using any internet connection.  I think P229 has his terminology mixed up
[05:44] <P229> dabaR: yes, well, they don't allow that from remote computers
[05:45] <P229> dooglus: I probably do, I'm too tired to think straight tonight
[05:45] <dabaR> P229: aha.
[05:47] <dabaR> quiet tonight...thats nice to see.
[05:47] <dabaR> for a change...
[05:47] <P229> heh
[05:49] <P229> #fedora is also pretty civil. #suse, however, most certainly is not
[05:50] <thoreauputic> maximaus: yes the tone has improved sincewe implemented filtering out all bitch-x users ;-)
[05:50] <maximaus> ROFL
[05:50] !lilo:*! Hi all. With the end of Rita and Katrina, it seemed to be a good idea to reevaluate the scope of our ##hurricane channel. I talked with Chris Burt, who runs ##hurricane, and we decide to move to a new channel, ##earth, which has been set up as an "observation channel for Earth and vicinity", covering global weather and climate, earthquakes, tsunamis, vulcanism, pollution, space weather and the occasional big chunk of rock the Universe sends our way. You're 
[05:51] !lilo:*! ....You're all invited to stop by if you'd like to. :)
[05:51] <maximaus> The #fedora channel is indeed rather nice, I frequented it often when I was a hat guy. :P
[05:51] <Hobbsee> anyone know if we have a .deb for openoffice.org2 rc1 yet?  or how to install it?
[05:52] <dooglus> Hobbsee: breezy has OO.o2 version "1.9.129-0.1ubuntu2".
[05:52] <maximaus> Hobbsee, I think it's available via apt. [checks]  Yup, it's there.
[05:53] <maximaus> (in Hoary)
[05:53] <steviant> does anyone know of a working backports repository?
[05:53] <dooglus> maximaus: not the "rc1" version though?
[05:53] <Phily> thoreauputic: waht was worng with bitch-x
[05:53] <Hobbsee> in hoary, the rep version is really old...
[05:53] <Hobbsee> like .79 or something
[05:54] <Hobbsee> i was looking for the RC
[05:54] <Hobbsee> yes, i'm impatient lol
[05:54] <steviant> backports for hoary that is :)
[05:54] <thoreauputic> Phily: the quit messages mostly (but I was just kidding)
[05:54] <beniamino> i can't install openssh-server -- dkpg hangs at 'setting up....' what can i do to force it/
[05:54] <dooglus> Hobbsee: breezy is in upstream version freeze, so it'll stay at 1.9.129 I guess
[05:54] <Hobbsee> dooglus: but it'll be in backports, presumably?
[05:54] <dabaR> Hobbsee: much improved? I could not find even a diamond symbol for a relationship symbol in an ERD...
[05:55] <dooglus> Hobbsee: I don't know anything about backports, soorry.
[05:55] <Hobbsee> dabaR: probably, it's definetly gotten way fast and seems to be more stable in the later beta's
[05:55] <dooglus> Hobbsee: I guess it'll be in grumpy pretty quickly
[05:55] <Hobbsee> dooglus: i'm not using breezy now, so i dont really mind about it yet - i was looking from hoary
[05:56] <Hobbsee> in grumpy?
[05:56] <thoreauputic> hi linner :)
[05:56] <LuVUnTu> re dooglus
[05:56] <linner> hey thoreauputic  :)
[05:56] <Hobbsee> hi linner
[05:56] <linner> thoreauputic:  how are you?
[05:56] <linner> Hobbsee:  hello :)
[05:56] <Hobbsee> it's so much quieter in here today
[05:56] <bimberi> steviant: the official backports repository seems to be working - or are you using mirrormax?
[05:56] <linner> Hobbsee:  it was kickin' earlier today
[05:56] <thoreauputic> linner: my shrink says I'm fine - but he has a perceptual disorder ;)
[05:56] <steviant> Does anyone know of a working backports repository for ubuntu-hoary, I've been trying for three days to find a repository that isn't either a) unreachable, b) 404ing everything, or c) apparently fine but with no packages. Is everyone else just living without backports?
[05:57] <dabaR> hehe...how about the features, many added? Hobbsee
[05:57] <linner> thoreauputic:  LOL..............
[05:57] <Hobbsee> linner: what, while i was asleep?
[05:57] <steviant> bimberi: what's the official repository?
[05:57] <maximaus> the forums backports repository seems to be alive.
[05:57] <linner> Hobbsee:  oh... I didn't recognize your nick....
[05:57] <linner> Hobbsee:  a little bit yeah :)
[05:57] <bimberi> ubotu tell steviant about backports
[05:57] <Hobbsee> linner: :( the names are starting to get familiar around here
[05:58] <maximaus> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[05:58] <linner> Hobbsee: oh ... I kinda like that :)
[05:58] <maximaus> change your backports addy to that ^^
[05:58] <bimberi> steviant: hopefully ubotu tolde you something like that too :)
[05:59] <steviant> bimberi: I've been googling for about 18 hours in total and haven't found anything relating to the repositories ubotu told me about :\
[05:59] <Hobbsee> dabaR: havent really looked around the advanced features much - I dont have many assignments due at the moment
[05:59] <eventualbuddha> how would i mount a firewire drive in ubuntu livecd?
[05:59] <maximaus> mirrormax still works for hoary-extras I believe.
[05:59] <steviant> nah
[05:59] <steviant> mirrormax 404s for me
[06:00] <sgteich> stevian:http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=69681
[06:00] <linner> Hobbsee:  i apt-got GNU privacy assistant
[06:00] <DonL> When Breezy comes out officially in a few weeks, does anyone know if the downloadable install disk will have a repair function?
[06:00] <maximaus> eventualbuddha, have you tried it yet? It may very well mount automatically.
[06:00] <eventualbuddha> maximaus, i'm not seeing it in nautilus
[06:01] <steviant> Err http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary-extras/restricted Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 82.211.81.151 80] 
[06:01] <maximaus> eventualbuddha, you'll have to do it via a terminal then
[06:01] <eventualbuddha> maximaus, which /dev is it? there are so many...
[06:01] <steviant> can I get a hoary-extras repo from anywhere as well?
[06:01] <dooglus> it's hoary-backports you mean?
[06:02] <dabaR> Hobbsee: well, what the heck do you need a new version for, then?
[06:02] <maximaus> eventualbuddha, it's probably sdb somthingorother.
[06:02] <steviant> the backports archive is at least reachable and doesn't 404 :D
[06:02] <sgteich> hello?
[06:02] <maximaus> :P
[06:02] <Hobbsee> dabaR: for the fun of testing it out and seeing the improvements!
[06:02] <linner> Hobbsee:  couldn't get to work your commands so I went digging... found this:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto which is where I found out about it.... and STILL can't upload the darned thing
[06:02] <dabaR> meh
[06:03] <bimberi> steviant: hoary-extras are definitely not official so won't be appearing with an ubuntu.com address :)
[06:03] <dabaR> Hobbsee: like me installing gentoo in a few days:))
[06:03] <steviant> Heh
[06:03] <dooglus> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ shows a list of repositories available
[06:03] <bimberi> steviant: mirrormax might work for them though
[06:03] <Hobbsee> dabaR: i'm not that crazy...
[06:03] <sgteich> bleah
[06:03] <steviant> bimberi: I'll try uncommenting the mirrormax hoary-extras line
[06:04] <DonL> dooglus, thanks for the repo list. I think that may be my Breezy problem
[06:04] <sgteich> steviant: look here - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=69681
[06:05] <inc|freaky> perfect. from now on java works. if this continues to work that good i will probably the rest of my disc not for windows but for mp3s etc. (i would have used it for stuff like that anyway
[06:05] <steviant> Suck... so I'll have to go to unofficial repositories to get w32codecs etc?
[06:05] <thoreauputic> linner: you heard about the agnostic dyslexic insomniac I guess?
[06:05] <inc|freaky> steviant: are you trying to play mp3s?
[06:05] <skyman302> hey guys
[06:05] <qsrv> hi
[06:05] <linner> thoreauputic:  you guessed wrong :)
[06:06] <skyman302> Got a quick question if you all are not to busy
[06:06] <thoreauputic> linner: lies awake wondering "Is there a dog? "
[06:06] <steviant> inc|freaky: Nah I'm trying to play video, I just want to reinstall w32codecs because they seem a bit broken
[06:06] <inc|freaky> just ask ;)
[06:06] <sgteich> evening
[06:06] <qsrv> one simple question: what do you use to manage network connections (wired and wireless) for ubuntu?
[06:06] <linner> that was good
[06:06] <linner> :)
[06:06] <steviant> It's getting so annoying I'm on the verge of dumping ubuntu and going back to debian unstable
[06:06] <thoreauputic> :)
[06:07] <Thunderguy> debian unstable?
[06:07] <Thunderguy> what's it like?
[06:07] <skyman302> How would I go about installing ubuntu on an nvraid array. The thing is I already installed windows on it and left 80 gb unpartitioned to use for linux. Now however, it seems that using nvraid is impossible on linux. Is there any work around. Is there somehow I can activate dmraid in the installer
[06:07] <steviant> Thunderguy: a lot like it sounds at the moment, but at least I can get the software I need then
[06:07] <rigel> okay, why can i not add mp3s from a cd to a playlist and get them to play in xmms
[06:08] <DonL> steviant, the reason I'm with Ubuntu is I never had any luck installing Debian. Is it easier now?
[06:08] <rigel> when did you use the installer last?
[06:08] <steviant> Not much easier, no :D
[06:08] <steviant> Hardware detection is still pretty much non-existant in the debian installer
[06:08] <DonL> steviant, I could never get X happening
[06:09] <inc|freaky> :D
[06:09] <thoreauputic> bimberi: the synergistic effects kicked in , for sure ;)
[06:09] <steviant> I'm a debian user from way back, and I've been very happy with ubuntu until half the available software disappeared
[06:09] <bimberi> haha
[06:10] <DonL> Ubuntu pretty much impresses the heck out of me, but I've screwed my system up really good going from Hoary to Breezy. Still trying to figure that out
[06:10] <bimberi> steviant: that wasn't aimed at you btw :)
[06:10] <steviant> heh :)
[06:10] <Hobbsee> DonL: how in particular did you screw up your system?
[06:11] <skyman302> anyone with the nvraid?
[06:11] <DonL> Hobbsee, not really sure. Followed the instructiong on the wiki, but I've ended up with several screens of unmet dependencies. This isn't RPM, is it? lol
[06:12] <Hobbsee> DonL: lol nope...how long ago was this that you tried?
[06:12] <DonL> Hobbsee, last Sunday
[06:12] <Hobbsee> DonL: i'm wondering if we both picked a bad day to upgrade...
[06:13] <DonL> Hobbsee, you too?
[06:13] <esac> whats a really good rss feed reader for gnome ?
[06:13] <inc|freaky> lol first java doesnt want to run, now i cant even close a java window only with CTRL+ESC ^^
[06:13] <Hobbsee> DonL: yeah, a few days ago...screwed it royally, it wouldnt logon except as root, would crash every time i tried to open konqueror, etc...
[06:14] <Centaur5> How can you find out if the precompiled kernel that ubuntu installed included support for ifrared?
[06:14] <DonL> Hobbsee, I had Hoary on a large hard drive, but I have a 6 gig drive as well. I put Warty into the small drive to get me through. I forgot how nice it is
[06:15] <Hobbsee> DonL: nice, i never tried warty...
[06:15] <Hobbsee> DonL: i run out of space pretty quickly when looking at tripple booting
[06:16] <DonL> Hobbsee, got some windows on there too?
[06:16] <Hobbsee> DonL: yeah, for games, on a 40 gig laptop
[06:16] <inc|freaky> i luv ubuntu :D
[06:16] <inc|freaky> well kubuntu to be true
[06:16] <Hobbsee> DonL: if sims 2 would play under linux, i'd be a very happy woman!
[06:17] <DonL> This machine's been windows free for about 5 years now
[06:17] <Hobbsee> inc|freaky: kubuntu's awesome!
[06:17] <inc|freaky> Hobbsee: yea :D
[06:17] <Hobbsee> DonL: i wish - everytime i boot to windows it annoys me
[06:17] <DonL> I got tired of having to reboot from one into the othere
[06:17] <esac> anybody know how to use cryptoloop or some other program to created an encrypted file that acts as a drive ?
[06:17] <DonL> other
[06:18] <SPCcrow> Are there any Korean input programs for Ubuntu?
[06:18] <inc|freaky> java, flash, everything working i got it all set up within minutes ... when i did all that it took me about one hour ^^
[06:19] <qsrv> hm
[06:19] <qsrv> any laptop users here?
[06:19] <SPCcrow> me
[06:19] <Hobbsee> qsrv: yes
[06:19] <inc|freaky> *the first time
[06:19] <HrdwrBoB> yes
[06:19] <esac> im a laptop user
[06:19] <Centaur5> I'm a laptop user
[06:19] <inc|freaky> is there anything connecting to the kazaa lite network under linux?
[06:19] <inc|freaky> if i find something doing it i will stick to ubuntu and not install windows
[06:20] <P229> I'm P229, and I'm a laptop user
[06:20] <SPCcrow> inc|freaky: Why not use LimeWire?
[06:20] <P229> #laptop-users-anonymous
[06:20] <Centaur5> P229, Don't worry, there is hope  :)
[06:20] <DonL> Well, must go for now. Nice talking to you!
[06:21] <P229> 11 more steps to go
[06:21] <Ex-Cyber> how can I stop OpenOffice Writer from automatically indenting and inserting list items? I'm trying to start a paragraph with a name starting with "D.C." and Writer apparently thinks I'm trying to start a list in Roman numerals :/
[06:21] <qsrv> what do you use to manage network connections?
[06:21] <DPadclear> Any ideas why apache2 won't read a .htaccess file in /var/www?
[06:21] <mushtaq> hi i have a ibm pc 200mgz processor 2gb hd 32mb ram
[06:21] <qsrv> like different wireless settings, wired vs wireless and etc
[06:21] <mushtaq> installing ubuntu is possible ?
[06:21] <inc|freaky> SPCcrow: kazaa-lite is widely used in germany and therefore i get german songs from there easily. on other filesharing networks i dont get them that easily
[06:21] <SPCcrow> qsrv: network-admin
[06:22] <SPCcrow> inc|freaky: you could try using Wine for it, but other than that I am not sure...
[06:22] <rigel> is alsa in the default kubuntu install
[06:22] <linner> Hobbsee:  were you able to find out about the GNU Privacy Assistant
[06:22] <linner> >
[06:22] <inc|freaky> SPCcrow: i had such a tool a while ago i just cant remember the name
[06:22] <rigel> hoary
[06:22] <rigel> er, breezy
[06:22] <SPCcrow> uboto tell qsrv about network-admin
[06:23] <SPCcrow> thats not right..
[06:23] <Agrajag> ubotu
[06:23] <mushtaq> hi i have a ibm pc 200mgz processor 2gb hd 32mb ram is it possible to install ubuntu
[06:23] <Hobbsee> linner: i had a bit of a look at it, didnt understanad much of it
[06:23] <inc|freaky> mushtaq: sure. it just depends on how much you want to install, and how much graphical stuff you want to enable i guess.
[06:23] <qsrv> hm
[06:23] <mushtaq> inc|freaky how to install from the network ?
[06:23] <linner> Hobbsee:  yeah it's for the GUI :)
[06:23] <mushtaq> i dont have the cdrom also inc|freaky
[06:23] <Ex-Cyber> mushtaq: a default install would not work well, although you might be able to build a usable system by starting with a "server" install and adding software
[06:24] <inc|freaky> mushtaq: you cant. download the first CD ... then you can get everything using online mirrors
[06:24] <mushtaq> inc|freaky is it possible to ftp ?
[06:24] <inc|freaky> mushtaq: then you have to get it :) or, if you just want to get it, just have them ship it to you FOR FREE :)
[06:24] <Ex-Cyber> argh
[06:24] <Hobbsee> linner: got that much, but i've yet to figure out what it hides in regards to privacy
[06:24] <inc|freaky> mushtaq: sure, just visit www.ubuntulinux.net
[06:25] <linner> Hobbsee:  I don't think it "hides" anything... it aids in the creation of a key...
[06:25] <inc|freaky> mushtaq: look at https://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://www.ubuntu.com/download/
[06:25] <linner> Hobbsee:  it says that it can upload it for distribution too but i can't connect to any of the servers... they fail each time i try to connect
[06:25] <inc|freaky> and decide which one you want ;)
[06:26] <breakthestate> where to the codecs from w32codecs go after i apt-get them?
[06:26] <breakthestate> *do
[06:26] <nomasteryoda|w> breakthestate, what do you mean?
[06:26] <nomasteryoda|w> it installs them
[06:26] <thoreauputic> breakthestate: /usr/lib/w32 from memory
[06:26] <thoreauputic> hmm
[06:26] <Hobbsee> linner: right...so if i dont create programs, it's no use to me?
[06:26] <breakthestate> thror: thx, i just can't get mplayer to find my codecs at all
[06:27] <breakthestate> i think it's cause i had it compiled at one point
[06:27] <inc|freaky> i like ubuntu. also the community is friendly and it makes you help others too :)
[06:27] <linner> Hobbsee:  huh?
[06:27] <nomasteryoda|w> breakthestate, yes
[06:27] <esac> is there a better player than totem? totem seems to be missing some key things such as window always on top when playing a video
[06:27] <Hobbsee> linner: dont worry...
[06:27] <thoreauputic> breakthestate: /usr/lib/win32
[06:27] <breakthestate> so i'm wondering if i apt-get w32codecs
[06:28] <BlueEagle> breakthestate: or even aptitude w32codecs
[06:28] <breakthestate> and then compile Mplayer.. why it isn't finding the codecs (actually if i apt-get Mplayer it doesn't find them either)
[06:28] <thoreauputic> breakthestate: that's where the package puts them
[06:28] <oneifreak> esac: you can kept any window on top.
[06:28] <linner> ewe
[06:28] <SPCcrow> anyone know how to setup Ubuntu to type in Korean?
[06:28] <esac> but only when a video is player ?
[06:28] <nomasteryoda|w> cafuego, ewww please use #flood
[06:28] <nomasteryoda|w> lol
[06:29] <inc|freaky> guys & girls i gotto go taking a rest from the day now. was installing hoary this morning set everything up and was upgrading to breezy this evening im all done now :D everythign seems to work now only the personalisation has to take place tomorrow when ive slept ^^ see you then ^^
[06:29] <PeerSoft> god i cant wait till i have For kubuntu ;x
[06:29] <esac> i swear ive used a media player that had that functionality before
[06:29] <BlueEagle> nn inc|freaky
[06:29] <inc|freaky> nn ;D
[06:29] <Hobbsee> linner: i've just found the FAQ's for it...that should help me understand...
[06:29] <linner> Hobbsee:  oh okay
[06:29] <Hobbsee> linner: it's still way too early for the brain to function yet
[06:30] <inc|freaky> PeerSoft: hehe, the same happened to me this morning when i was downloading the kubuntu image ;o)
[06:30] <thoreauputic> breakthestate: if you compiled mplayer it might be looking in /usr/local/lib/win32 or similar
[06:30] <linner> Hobbsee:  ahhh :)
[06:30] <PeerSoft> nothing happened to me lol
[06:30] <PeerSoft> just on dialup
[06:30] <PeerSoft> and have to wait on a CD
[06:30] <nomasteryoda|w> thoreauputic, won't a symlink do the trick?
[06:30] <thoreauputic> nomasteryoda|w: should, yes
[06:30] <inc|freaky> PeerSoft: for a friend it took 2 months :\
[06:30] <breakthestate> yeah, i'll do ./configure -with--codecsdir=/usr/lib/win32
[06:31] <PeerSoft> huh?
[06:31] <breakthestate> nomaster: i've read that a symlink won't work...go figure
[06:31] <inc|freaky> really but he was ordering 400 CDs ;)
[06:31] <inc|freaky> PeerSoft i mean
[06:31] <inc|freaky> ah that wasnt me ^^
[06:31] <LuVUnTu> dooglus, which file was it again that i should add the line <code>pon adsl-provide</code>
[06:31] <DPadclear> Why won't apache2 read an .htaccess file in it's /var/www directory (This is off of a new installation - ie fresh after the apt-get install)
[06:32] <dooglus> LuVUnTu: I think you've got the wrong person
[06:32] <inc|freaky> ok going to sleep now ... just cant get away off my new kubuntu ;)
[06:32] <Master-Tricky> bimberi, I'm back and the partitioning was successful. (Phew, at least I can't do any damage to Windows XP now :P) Everything's fine in XP, but I have the same problem with Ubuntu and can't seem to get X Server to load, I get the same error.
[06:32] <dooglus> LuVUnTu: oh no, I remember you...  /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[06:32] <LuVUnTu> great. thanks
[06:33] <signbarn> Is Colony 5 the latest image of Breezy?
[06:33] <bz0b> hey all
[06:33] <Travis|H> yea
[06:33] <breakthestate> hi bz0b
[06:33] <bz0b> hey, is there a way to upgrade to 5.10 without reformatting?
[06:34] <nomasteryoda|w> bz0b, yes
[06:34] <BlueEagle> bz0b: yes.
[06:34] <bz0b> please explain
[06:34] <houman_zhu> hi therem does anyone know when breezy will be released? liek the final version not the preview
[06:34] <nomasteryoda|w> !repos
[06:34] <ubotu> well, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[06:34] <nomasteryoda|w> er soory
[06:34] <BlueEagle> bz0b: There is a way to upgrade to 5.10 without reformatting.
[06:34] <thoreauputic> !upgrade2breezy
[06:34] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[06:34] <nomasteryoda|w> !tell bzOb about repos
[06:34] <nomasteryoda|w> and that
[06:35] <signbarn> after some updates, my breezy no longer has the groovy splash screen boot thingy when it starts up. has anyone else had this problem?
[06:36] <thoreauputic> *too
[06:36] <acktifujit> can anyone help me with my doom3 and ati problems? :F
[06:36] <signbarn> haha :-) i miss my pretty boot screen
[06:36] <Amaranth> it's pre-Colony 4 but expect some fixes for pyxdg and smeg bugs :)
[06:36] <Master-Tricky> Whenever I try to boot Ubuntu Hoary I get an "X Server cannot be loaded" error and "fatal server error; no screens found" and many "no symbols found" and "no devices found" errors.  My graphics card is a Radeon X800XL, I think it has to do with it...Can anyone help me?
[06:37] <thoreauputic> !ati
[06:37] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[06:37] <Myrtti> /me praises Gaia for giving me patience not upgrading to Breezy yet
[06:37] <Myrtti> Hail Gaia!
[06:37] <linner> hey Myrtti
[06:37] <linner> :)
[06:38] <Myrtti> damn it's moist in here
[06:38] <Myrtti> anyway
[06:38] <acktifujit> you shouldn't be touching yourself there
[06:38] <LuVUnTu> great ... thanks dooglus
[06:38] <houman_zhu> Myrtti: why dont you wanna upgrade to breezy? :|
[06:39] <signbarn> does anyone know how i can get back the pretty boot slpash screen loader thingy in breezy? updating some stuff seems to have broken it
[06:39] <Myrtti> houman_zhu: because it's not yet named the current stable
[06:39] <houman_zhu> Myrtti: do you honestly thyre gonna make any significant changes to it frmo now till the 13th of october?
[06:39] <signbarn> (also, what's a better name for it?)
[06:39] <Myrtti> acktifujit: nope, it's just autumn and two bashes of moist clothes
[06:39] <houman_zhu> Myrtti: do you honestly "think"
[06:39] <nomasteryoda|w> signbarn, usplash
[06:40] <Myrtti> houman_zhu: I've seen it on the last upgrade round
[06:40] <signbarn> thanks, nomasteryoda|w
[06:40] <nomasteryoda|w> i want to change my usplash ...
[06:40] <acktifujit> alright when i start ubuntu, my login screen is at a very low resolution and i have to ctrl+alt+keypad- back to my normal resolution... anyone have a solution?
[06:40] <nomasteryoda|w> to something a little more intelligent
[06:40] <houman_zhu> Myrtti: cuz im trying not to upgrade too , but it kinda made me feel like, oh ok is it gonna be any different, on well, ill wait
[06:40] <nomasteryoda|w> but have found no method
[06:41] <houman_zhu> Myrtti: will you do a clean install or upgrade it?
[06:41] <signbarn> i just want to fix my usplash
[06:41] <Myrtti> houman_zhu: upgrade
[06:41] <Myrtti> I think
[06:41] <nomasteryoda|w> signbarn, maybe install it again?
[06:41] <houman_zhu> ill do a clean install, get things right this time,
[06:41] <signbarn> nomasteryoda|w: i'll get back to you on that :-)
[06:41] <nomasteryoda|w> k
[06:41] <houman_zhu> im gonna mount my home directory in a seperate partition this time, save me a lot of hassle for updating
[06:42] <cooterlove> can anyone recommend a usefull bittorrent like azureus  that DOESN"T depen on java?
[06:42] <houman_zhu> cooterlove: bitcomet
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> I find the original bittorrent client usefull. :P
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:42] <houman_zhu> cooterlove: gnome-bittorrent
[06:43] <B_166-ER-X> gnome-bittorent has no resume :|
[06:43] <Myrtti> houman_zhu: true
[06:43] <nomasteryoda|w> Tip: when you need to find a program, apt-cache search "programname"
[06:43] <houman_zhu> cooterlove: and whats wrong with depending on java? :|
[06:43] <Myrtti> bittornado is good
[06:44] <B_166-ER-X> houman_zhu the package for the java needed is no longer available..
[06:44] <cooterlove> houman_zhu: its way to slow
[06:44] <B_166-ER-X> thats why , had the same probl
[06:44] <houman_zhu> what? no java runtime environment? you kidding?
[06:44] <nomasteryoda|w> that's why you use blackdown java
[06:44] <othernoob> are the multimedia keys on keyboards functional by deafult in linux?
[06:44] <nomasteryoda|w> houman_zhu, there is one
[06:44] <nomasteryoda|w> alternative
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> othernoob,  if you are lucky :P
[06:44] <B_166-ER-X> the JRE package is no more in the sources
[06:44] <nomasteryoda|w> !tell houman_zhu about java
[06:44] <houman_zhu> but why wouldnt the original be there? sun has a package for linux anywyas
[06:45] <signbarn> !tell signbarn about java
[06:45] <nomasteryoda|w> houman_zhu, licensing
[06:45] <dooglus> signbarn: I think usplash must be broken for everyone at the moment
[06:45] <nomasteryoda|w> dooglus, mine works on this lapotp
[06:45] <othernoob> Dr_Willis: mmh, thinking about buying a new one, mine is 11 years old... no idea what to look for
[06:45] <dooglus> nomasteryoda|w: are you up-to-date with breezy updates?
[06:45] <nomasteryoda|w> yes
[06:45] <signbarn> dooglus: oh yeah? well that makes me feel better
[06:45] <houman_zhu> is this a sun problem or the ubuntu guys havnt made a deb for ubuntu yet? whats happening, dont scare me
[06:46] <nomasteryoda|w> to the latest as of about 1 hr ago
[06:46] <nomasteryoda|w> rebooted and it was still there
[06:46] <dooglus> nomasteryoda|w: what do you have in /usr/lib/usplash?
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> othernoob,  lol.  Watch some of the new keyboards that have the F keys defaulting to "media" keys - by default - thats a Pain.
[06:46] <dabaR> sun has an idea, that it wants to be the only distributor of Java(tm) JRE, and SDKs.
[06:46] <dooglus> nomasteryoda|w: I have a 29k file and a broken symlink.
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> othernoob,  i considre those keys to be eye-candy and not that usefull mainly. :P better off getting a good solid keyboard that you will like..
[06:47] <houman_zhu> nomasteryoda|w: can you send me a link to soemthign that explains this thing, i mena the licensing problem, cuz i still dont get it
[06:47] <dabaR> houman_zhu: see how they have the rpm, and bin for linux?
[06:47] <houman_zhu> dabaR: yes ok
[06:47] <nomasteryoda|w> nice... mine is usplash-default.so
[06:47] <nomasteryoda|w> and usplash-artwork.so
[06:47] <dabaR> houman_zhu: that should be enough to understand the legal side...
[06:47] <dooglus> nomasteryoda|w: ls -hlL /usr/lib/usplash/
[06:47] <dooglus> nomasteryoda|w: does that show you that the link is broken?
[06:48] <othernoob> Dr_Willis: yea, you're right.. i just saw one with multimedia keys and bla for 4 euro @ebay..
[06:48] <houman_zhu> dabaR: i dont, why wouldnt they make a deb too, i mean they want us linux people to use java based programs too right
[06:48] <nomasteryoda|w> dooglus, nope... still there
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> othernoob,  Heh - I hear the HappyHacker keyboards are nice.. but a little pricy.
[06:48] <dooglus> nomasteryoda|w: what does this show: ls -l /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-artwork.so
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> othernoob,  the only extra feature i LIKE on a keyboard is a built in usb hub. and that hard to find these days. :(
[06:48] <dabaR> houman_zhu: there is a bin, and a rpm, as I said. Linux for human beings is a new idea....
[06:49] <nomasteryoda|w> /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-artwork.so -> /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so
[06:49] <sobersabre> hi, guys, how can i enable framebuffer with intelfb if it is not compiled into the ubuntu kernel ? ( wanna stop recompileing my own kernels )
[06:49] <dabaR> houman_zhu: ppl still distribute .debs for hoary, and even for breezy.
[06:49] <dooglus> and this?  ls -l /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so
[06:49] <houman_zhu> dabaR: isnt the bin distro independent?
[06:49] <dabaR> thats a little stupid, tho
[06:49] <sobersabre> i've tried to add to grub line: video=intelfb:1024x768@60 vga=0x317
[06:49] <sobersabre> and it doesn't work.
[06:49] <dabaR> houman_zhu: yes, that is what you want for ubuntu/debian, and there is make-jpkg, so its really easy.
[06:49] <nomasteryoda|w>  /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so -> /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-default.so
[06:49] <sobersabre> any ideas ?
[06:50] <othernoob> Dr_Willis: what do you think about those ergonomic ones? never had one..but look somewhat uncomfortable
[06:50] <sobersabre> URLs ?
[06:50] <dabaR> houman_zhu: then you get a .deb.
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> othernoob,  I dont like them.. i type funny however.  (broke one hand years ago)
[06:50] <houman_zhu> dabaR: oh ok , so there is no java crisis in the linux community, i kinda overreacted, too much coffee, thanks for your patience and explaining it to me
[06:50] <dooglus> nomasteryoda|w: ah.  that's what I'm missing.  I have lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 37 Sep 28 16:36 /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so -> /usr/share/usplash/usplash-default.so
[06:50] <nomasteryoda|w> dooglus, yup
[06:50] <dooglus> nomasteryoda|w: what's the date you see from the last ls I asked about?
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> othernoob,  theres a keybord out thats got all BLACK Blank Keys. :P for the leet.
[06:51] <nomasteryoda|w> 9-28
[06:51] <houman_zhu> dabaR: this is how it was for hoary too right? nothing has really changed right?
[06:51] <dooglus> hmm. mine too.  nomasteryoda|w, did you fix that link yourself?
[06:51] <nomasteryoda|w> nope
[06:51] <dell500> anyone know how to get dual crts to work?
[06:51] <HrdwrBoB> Dr_Willis: better than that is a model M with painted keycaps
[06:51] <othernoob> Dr_Willis: i think you mean daskeyboard ;)
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> HrdwrBoB,   :P
[06:51] <nomasteryoda|w> dooglus, i686 version here
[06:51] <nomasteryoda|w> of kernel that is
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> othernoob,  thats it  - guy at work bought oine the other day
[06:52] <nomasteryoda|w> maybe that made diff?
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> I got a Saitek Gamers Keyboard. its ok.. if you like one that glows and lays real flat.
[06:52] <dooglus> nomasteryoda|w: here too
[06:52] <nomasteryoda|w> hmmm
[06:52] <othernoob> Dr_Willis: it's a bit over my budget..:/
[06:52] <nomasteryoda|w> oh well, it is developer version
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> othernoob,  yea. :P thats why i dident get one either
[06:52] <nomasteryoda|w> ... but soooo good
[06:52] <dabaR> houman_zhu: there has always been a make-jpkg, if that is what you are asking. There were debs in the backports, the backports became an official project, and the forums, so, the licence had to be honored, which is ok, maybe they will make a .deb soon.
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> othernoob,  i found some Logitech's on sale with big rebates last year.. got like 4 of them
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> for spares.
[06:52] <dooglus> signbarn: this might fix your usplash:   sudo ln -sf /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-default.so /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> but they all got that lame Fkey-defaults to media keys annoyance
[06:53] <nomasteryoda|w> Dr_Willis, lol
[06:53] <lancellor> hello
[06:53] <othernoob> Dr_Willis: can't have anything glowing anymore..my idiotic moded case annoys me already
[06:53] <dabaR> houman_zhu: the IBM java afaik, is included in Breezy, as a package.
[06:53] <signbarn> dooglus: is that a workaround or a permanent solution?
[06:53] <HrdwrBoB> Dr_Willis: yes, stupidest thing ever
[06:53] <nomasteryoda|w> Dr_Willis, dang MS standard keyboards
[06:53] <dabaR> houman_zhu: there are docs at the wiki on this.
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> I got MS and Logitech keyboard that both have the same quirk.
[06:53] <nomasteryoda|w> at least my new one ... MS branded has the Fnlk set to be locked on boot
[06:53] <dooglus> I going to check if it has fixed mine.  signbarn, it might not be a solution at all, but if it is, it should be permanent (or until a bad update breaks it)
[06:53] <nomasteryoda|w> and keeps that setting
[06:53] <lancellor> a litle question how do i change my default software to open mp3 and video player
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> the one Ligitech has a scroll wheel on the left - thats an neat feature.. but i forget its there.
[06:54] <signbarn> i'll give it a looksee
[06:54] <nomasteryoda|w> Dr_Willis, yea.. this one does too
[06:54] <dooglus> signbarn: what do you see if you do this:  ls -L /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-artwork.so
[06:54] <nomasteryoda|w> and a scroll tab thing
[06:54] <whyameye> so...is it true that there is no way to get my ESS chipset modem to work with Hoary? This no ndiswrapper equivelent for modems?
[06:54] <houman_zhu> dabaR: thanks for the info, ill look through the wiki
[06:54] <thoreauputic> lancellor: in gnome, right click in the file manager, go to properties and set your preferred app
[06:55] <dell500> anyone know if xinerama should be on for dual displays?
[06:55] <nomasteryoda|w> dell500, how ya doing.. doing that on your dell laptop?
[06:55] <dooglus> dell500: you have to turn it on yourself I believe
[06:55] <dell500> nomasteryoda|w,  no
[06:55] <nomasteryoda|w> lol
[06:55] <nomasteryoda|w> k
[06:55] <dell500> dooglus, xinerama? the option is on
[06:56] <dell500> nothing on the other monitor though
[06:56] <nomasteryoda|w> which video card dell500
[06:56] <signbarn> dooglus: it just echos the /usr/lib/usplash-artwork.so
[06:56] <dell500> ati 9600xt
[06:56] <nomasteryoda|w> k
[06:56] <johnnybezak> hey guys
[06:56] <dell500> i'm trying to only run the ati driver, not fglrx
[06:56] <nomasteryoda|w> ah cool
[06:56] <dell500> but both monitors work under fglrx
[06:56] <xuniluser> How to do i make an ntfs partition writeable?
[06:57] <johnnybezak> how long does it normally take for ssh-keygen to generate some keys?
[06:57] <dell500> just a clone of one desktop though, i want an extension
[06:57] <steviant> xuniluser: boot windows :)
[06:57] <nomasteryoda|w> xuniluser, why? you want to Loose data on that NTFS drive???
[06:57] <signbarn> dooglus: i just ran an update, and there was an update for usplash
[06:57] <thoreauputic> xunil: you don't generally
[06:57] <whyameye> xuniluser, you want to write to ntfs in ubuntu? captive-ntfs.
[06:57] <lancellor> thoreauputic: Thanks that work
[06:57] <steviant> seriously though, I hear the options are to pay for a rw driver for linux, or use a free wrapper for the Microsoft drivers
[06:57] <nomasteryoda|w> xuniluser, there is a nice new package for windows that will allow writing to ext2 drive from windows...
[06:57] <nomasteryoda|w> works nice
[06:57] <thoreauputic> lancellor: you're welcome :)
[06:58] <dell500> nomasteryoda|w, are you serious?!
[06:58] <Agrajag> nomasteryoda|w: who uses ext2 anymore?
[06:58] <whyameye> use you can use captive-ntfs which uses the driver from WinXP service pack 1. It works great.
[06:58] <nomasteryoda|w> dell500, yes
[06:58] <dell500> sweet
[06:58] <nomasteryoda|w> ext3 too
[06:58] <nomasteryoda|w> on sf
[06:58] <nomasteryoda|w> .net
[06:58] <steviant> whyameye: yay that's what I was thinking of
[06:58] <steviant> there's also a commercial driver now apparently.
[06:58] <xuniluser> whyameye: do i have to apt-get it?
[06:58] <fisious> hi guys. just installed ubuntu for the first time (nice) is there somewhere to change where it retrieves it's auto-update packages? or is that just the sources list for apt-get ?
[06:59] <signbarn> read/write on ext3 from windows, you say?
[06:59] <lancellor> other litle question how do you select the person to send the message just type the name an :  or there is a shortcut
[06:59] <thoreauputic> fisious: the sources list
[06:59] <fisious> thx
[06:59] <steviant> signbarn: alas no, althoough I think there's a free option for ext2/3fs for windows
[06:59] <xuniluser> I want to delete some files in my ntfs partition....
[06:59] <whyameye> xuniluser: you can probably apt-get captive-ntfs, but you have to get the windows driver for it from a windows installation or a windows install CD.
[06:59] <thoreauputic> !tell fisious about sources
[06:59] <whyameye> and...service pack 2 does *not* work
[07:00] <signbarn> steviant: eh? meaning... read/write ext2 from windows?
[07:00] <all4n> hey people.  I'm running breezy, and have the i386 kernel installed. Now I wonder if I should install the i686 kernel.  The problem is, I am not sure whether I have hyperthreading or not. (the CPU is a p4 2.4).  Is there any way I can find that out without opening the computer?
[07:01] <cafuego_> all4n: cat /proc/cpuinfo.
[07:01] <all4n> cafuego, thanks!
[07:01] <johnnybezak> all4n: ditto
[07:01] <steviant> Yeah, I seem to remember hearing that there is a driver for Windows to read Linux partitions... I guess I could google for it on your behalf :)
[07:01] <cafuego_> all4n: If the 'flags' field contains 'ht', then it cna do HT and you'll want the i686-smp kernel.
[07:01] <cafuego_> steviant: ext2fsd.sourceforge.net
[07:02] <steviant> http://www.ntfs-linux.com/ <- the commercial ntfs driver for linux
[07:02] <steviant> apparently it's "gold certified" by Microsoft themselves
[07:02] <rigel> i need a metronome
[07:02] <signbarn> $$$?
[07:02] <rigel> someone help me out.
[07:03] <steviant> $69.95USD
[07:03] <all4n> cafuego_: ah, it worked..  :)  thanks again
[07:03] <signbarn> cha-ching! hmmm
[07:03] <whyameye> "gold certified." Alright! Oh, actually I think I'd prefer the platinum certified version...
[07:03] <rigel> doesbreezy include alsa?
[07:03] <Amaranth> yes
[07:03] <crimsun> rigel, all released versions of Ubuntu have included ALSA by default.
[07:04] <Amaranth> alsa is in all distros that use the 2.6 kernel
[07:04] <CarlFK> http://winext2fsd.sourceforge.net http://ext2fsd.sourceforge.net (i just came accros them looking for fs tools)
[07:04] <steviant> Heh there's a demo version apparently, but it's a hefty download. 148kb
[07:04] <rigel> okay, then why do i get all these errors when trying to set up midi
[07:04] <rigel> according to a random howto
[07:04] <crimsun> "a random howto"?
[07:04] <whyameye> I dunno. captive-ntfs is no longer maintained. On the other hand, it worked great for me and it's free.
[07:04] <crimsun> there's official unofficial documentation at alsa.opensrc.org
[07:05] <rigel> http://linux-sound.org/quick-toots/4-sequencers_and_softsynths/quick-toot-midisynth_howto.html
[07:05] <dooglus> signbarn: I just ran an update and there wasn't...
[07:06] <dooglus> signbarn: the last usplash update I saw was 7 hours ago.  It didn't fix usplash for me.
[07:06] <signbarn> oh well it may have been 7 hours since i updated
[07:07] <whyameye> rigel: I actually did this tutorial awhile ago and it worked fine for my Hoary distro. Can't speak about Breezy...
[07:07] <spindley> nice new breezy wallpaper!
[07:07] <rigel> sorry. im drunk and trying to set up computer crap. thats always a bad idea.
[07:08] <dooglus> spindley: what do you think it's meant to be?
[07:08] <whyameye> captive-ntfs: http://www.kruyt.org/?sub_item=46
[07:08] <spindley> dunno, it looks like the sun reflecting off the surface of water
[07:08] <spindley> i like it
[07:09] <neutrin0> greetings
[07:09] <tritium> hi neutrin0
[07:09] <neutrin0> hi tritium
[07:09] <neutrin0> I'm working on getting a simple LAN going
[07:10] <PeerSoft> well that was fun
[07:10] <PeerSoft> had my first taste of console
[07:10] <nalioth> tritium: better to come here during the daytime
[07:10] <tritium> nalioth, oh?  Why's that?
[07:10] <neutrin0> PeerSoft Consul roks
[07:10] <PeerSoft> yea it was fun
[07:10] <PeerSoft> using irssi
[07:10] <PeerSoft> ;x
[07:10] <nalioth> tritium: maximize your work time
[07:10] <PeerSoft> even played FreeSweep
[07:10] <PeerSoft> i was like "this is cool"
[07:10] <PeerSoft> lol
[07:11] <neutrin0> can anyone field some routing questions?
[07:11] <neutrin0> whats up tritium
[07:11] <calc> neutrin0: ask and you might find an answer
[07:11] <neutrin0> ok calc
[07:11] <calc> don't ask and you certainly won't ;)
[07:11] <tritium> neutrin0, I don't understand nalioth tonight ;)
[07:11] <neutrin0> this is the setup
[07:11] <nalioth> tritium: it's always best to come online from work
[07:12] <neutrin0> cloud=>router->ubuntu->knoppix
[07:12] <neutrin0> cloud=>router->ubuntu (how to enable internet onward?)knoppix
[07:12] <HiddenFly> what program can i use to make an image from a dvd?
[07:12] <signbarn> yes. it's best not to waste your personal time
[07:13] <dabaR> neutrin0: install ipmasq, and dnsmasq
[07:13] <neutrin0> do I need to use iptables?
[07:13] <johnnybezak> hey guys, I'm trying to set up ssh to use with rsync and am having a problem making the authorized_keys work so that I can login without a password. anyone here done this before?
[07:13] <tritium> nalioth, yeah, but that can get me in trouble
[07:13] <calc> neutrin0: that would probably be the easiest way
[07:14] <thoreauputic> johnnybezak: if you are using dsa you might need to make it authorized_keys2
[07:14] <neutrin0> what should my routing table look like
[07:14] <nalioth> HiddenFly: k3b
[07:14] <neutrin0> I've read all the howtos andI'm still not successful
[07:15] <nalioth> tritium: tell em your supporting the open source movement and let em feel proud
[07:15] <calc> neutrin0: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/Masquerading-Simple-HOWTO.html
[07:15] <dabaR> neutrin0: did you read my msg?
[07:15] <calc> neutrin0: did you enable ip_forward ?
[07:15] <tritium> nalioth, yeah, that should go over really well
[07:15] <neutrin0> calc yes
[07:16] <dell500> what's the resolution with 11xx x 8xx??
[07:16] <neutrin0> dabaR didn't get it
[07:16] <calc> from what i recall when i used to use masq all i did was what was listed on that page in section 2
[07:16] <whyameye> so...any hope for a modem with an ESS chipset on ubuntu?
[07:16] <neutrin0> ok calc that's one howto I have yet to read
[07:17] <dooglus> 1024x768?
[07:18] <neutrin0> ok cool calc
[07:18] <neutrin0> thank you
[07:18] <calc> neutrin0: that worked?
[07:19] <neutrin0> am reading
[07:19] <gm78> Hey all. I don't currently have access to the computer, and the "symptoms" I am only telling you after hearing them from my Mom, but I will explain what is going on with her ubuntu computer? sometimes, when she tries to log out, gnome just sits there and then crashes. when she CTRL+ALT+BCKSPC, it drops her in a terminal. Lately also, after she logs in, the screen goes grey and the whole computer locks up. This happens only every 2 or 3 t
[07:19] <gm78> computer is rebooted. Does anyone have any idea why this might happen?
[07:19] <PeerSoft> a ghost did it?
[07:19] <calc> neutrin0: on the knoppix box it would need to set its gateway to the ubuntu one as well, probably via dhcp server telling it
[07:20] <tritium> every 2 or 3 what?  seconds?  hours?  weeks?
[07:20] <calc> neutrin0: also use numeric ips to ping for testing since you could end up having dns issues etc if trying to go to a web page
[07:21] <neutrin0> calc: i've set the nic on the ubuntu box as the default:soundright?
[07:21] <Rylie>  #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:21] <gm78> tritium: my next comment is right below, every two or three times the computer is rebooted
[07:21] <crimsun> gm78, your comment was cut off.
[07:21] <johnnybezak> thoreauputic: thanks
[07:21] <neutrin0> err.default gw on the knoppix side
[07:21] <thoreauputic> johnnybezak: np -working?
[07:21] <dabaR> neutrin0: install the two packages, ipmasq, and dnsmasq
[07:21] <johnnybezak> thoreauputic: just about to check
[07:21] <johnnybezak> thoreauputic: i was using dsa
[07:22] <gm78> hmmm, weird, opera shows it as all being posted.....oh well, it is every couple times the computer is rebooted
[07:22] <dabaR> reconfigure dnsmasq, to start it, and that should be it. set up the knoppix for dhcp.
[07:22] <thoreauputic> johnnybezak: if you have the public keys properly set up it should work with authorized_keys2
[07:22] <calc> neutrin0: should be
[07:23] <johnnybezak> thoreauputic: nope it's still prompting for a password. this is what i did, generated the keys on the server, copied them over to client put them in .ssh/authorized_keys(2) but it doesn't work. have I missed something?
[07:23] <calc> neutrin0: er yea you are going to have fun with this
[07:23] <calc> neutrin0: its a little more complicated than i first realized
[07:23] <calc> neutrin0: you probably will need two addresses on the ubuntu nic
[07:23] <thoreauputic> johnnybezak: probably yes - hang o nI think I might have a bookmark for a howto here
[07:24] <calc> neutrin0: or does the ubuntu box have two nics?
[07:24] <whyameye> johnnybezak: add the -v flag when you try to ssh, and maybe you will see more specifics on what isn't working...
[07:24] <seanj> hi. ubuntu file manager crashes when i try to move more than 1 file, and abiword dies when i'm in the middle of writing something, can i fix it?
[07:25] <benplaut> seanj: Hoary or Breezy?
[07:25] <seanj> it's Hoary, benplaut
[07:25] <benplaut> and by dies, you mean just... closes?
[07:25] <seanj> they both just close
[07:25] <benplaut> k
[07:25] <johnnybezak> whyameye: roger
[07:25] <seanj> wait no... the file manager gives an error and says it has to be restarted
[07:25] <calc> neutrin0: still here?
[07:26] <thoreauputic> johnnybezak: this might help >> http://www.scrounge.org/linux/rsync.html
[07:26] <benplaut> well, i can't quite help you, but now someone else may be able to :P
[07:26] <seanj> okidoke, thanks for taking an interest, benplaut
[07:26] <nawa> hai
[07:26] <seanj> hi nawa
[07:27] <nawa> leh kenal g
[07:27] <seanj> <- only can speak english :(
[07:28] <dell500> um, i've got dual screens running, but the left monitor seems to scroll with the mouse for some reason, anyone know?
[07:28] <johnnybezak> when i used the verbose switch it said it was trying a bunch of private keys, then it went to the keyboard prompt. should it be trying the authorized_keys file?
[07:28] <dooglus> I think nawa is speaking dog
[07:28] <seanj> lol
[07:29] <neutrin0> calc
[07:29] <neutrin0> yes the ubuntu has two nics
[07:29] <calc> neutrin0: oh ok
[07:29] <calc> neutrin0: yea so the knoppix one should point to the one it is connected to as the gateway
[07:29] <neutrin0> one going to the router and one to the knoppix box
[07:29] <dooglus> I think he wants his kennel
[07:30] <calc> er let me rephrase that
[07:30] <calc> the knoppix box should have its gateway set to the nic on the ubuntu box that it is connected to
[07:30] <calc> sorry that wasn't very clear before
[07:31] <calc> once you do that and set up iptables on the ubuntu box you should be able to ping the router
[07:31] <dooglus> is it possible to go back to before a breezy update was installed?
[07:31] <neutrin0> yes calc that's accurately configures
[07:31] <ksmurf> is there a way to "force load" hardware.  My internal wireless card works great for 5-6 boots after a kernel update but dies after then.  I filed a bug and heard nada.  It looks like it's dying on a HAL 13 error during ath_attach.  It says this rvision is not supported but if it not suppose to work .... why does it 5-6 times?
[07:31] <neutrin0> *configured
[07:31] <esac> what do i install to get X development headers ?
[07:31] <dooglus> ksmurf: "modprobe"?
[07:31] <thoreauputic> esac: xlibs-dev
[07:31] <esac> tnx
[07:31] <Amaranth> !info x-window-system-dev
[07:31] <ubotu> x-window-system-dev: (X Window System development components), section x11, is optional. Version: 6.8.2-10 (hoary), Packaged size: 162 kB, Installed size: 264 kB
[07:31] <dabaR> calc, its simple dhcp.
[07:32] <thoreauputic> esac: or what Amaranth says - more comprehensive
[07:32] <calc> dabaR: sounds like he isn't using dhcp though
[07:32] <neutrin0> ya no DHCP
[07:32] <neutrin0> looking for those packages calc
[07:33] <dabaR> calc: what is he gonna do?
[07:33] <calc> dhcp3-server
[07:33] <sambagirl> warwhy cannot i access windows work group and does SMB mean samba? should i use NFS insteead?
[07:33] <neutrin0> oops
[07:33] <calc> dabaR: he's trying to masq from knoppix->ubuntu->router->internet
[07:33] <dabaR> masq what?
[07:34] <calc> dabaR: masq is ip masquerading, which is the same thing esentially as nat on a linux box
[07:34] <dabaR> calc: whatever, msg me if you cant figure it out.
[07:35] <dell500> does anyone know why my cursor changes the location of the second monitor on my dual crt setup?
[07:35] <johnnybezak> hmm well i think these keys have got me beat for this afternoon :P dam ssh :)
[07:36] <cef> I've been getting issues at shutdown where hal complains about something, but it doesn't get logged anywhere (something to do with pid I think)
[07:36] <tritium> dell500, does it move across the room?  cool magic!  ;)
[07:36] <neutrin0> well how do I install a debian package on ubuntu?
[07:36] <calc> dabaR: i know how to setup nat on linux
[07:36] <calc> dabaR: actually you probably should tell neutrin0 since i am going to bed now anyway (12:40am)
[07:37] <calc> neutrin0: that dhcp3-server package is in ubuntu
[07:37] <PeerSoft> do people in this chan ever sleep ;x
[07:37] <neutrin0> thanks calc
[07:37] <calc> PeerSoft: i do :)
[07:37] <PeerSoft> lol i do too
[07:37] <PeerSoft> but cant goto bed for another 2 hours
[07:37] <calc> heh
[07:37] <PeerSoft> waitin for a friend to bring me a CD RW
[07:37] <PeerSoft> =x
[07:38] <PeerSoft> and he's @ work
[07:38] <Hobbsee> PeerSoft: occasionally, but i'm on the other side of the world to most people
[07:38] <neutrin0> my root passwd is inefective from within gnome
[07:38] <PeerSoft> lol hobb; im in the US
[07:38] <PeerSoft> neutrin0: you have tons of nix problems dont u?
[07:38] <MadpilotPPC> neutrin0, unless you've set a root pw, there is no such thing in Ubuntu...
[07:38] <Hobbsee> lol...yeah, along with the rest of the irc channel, or most of them
[07:38] <sambagirl> sharing doesnt work, printing does not work, nothing works.
[07:39] <sambagirl> grr
[07:39] <sambagirl> frustrations
[07:39] <neutrin0> i have set it and am promted for it when using the install pkg tool
[07:39] <neutrin0> works from terminal though
[07:39] <neutrin0> and yes nix is tons of phun
[07:39] <neutrin0> hooray
[07:39] <PeerSoft> well Hobbsee, I never used linux actually - I am getting kubuntu in about 2 weeks for phily; from canada
[07:40] <Hobbsee> PeerSoft: fun!  then you can spend all night just playing with the configurations, and downloading lots of interesting programs :D
[07:40] <sambagirl> this isnt linux this is something different inreality. gui-linux is what it is.
[07:40] <PeerSoft> Lol yea
[07:40] <PeerSoft> AND
[07:40] <PeerSoft> im on dialup
[07:40] <PeerSoft> what fun huh?
[07:40] <PeerSoft> ;x
[07:40] <disasm> sambagirl: lol ;-)
[07:40] <seanj> delayed fun!
[07:41] <PeerSoft> but I have a good friend of mine thats really   excellent @ linux thats going to help me out .
[07:41] <MadpilotPPC> PeerSoft, Ubuntu on dailup? ouch... really s l o w fun
[07:41] <Hobbsee> PeerSoft: yucky.  Befriend someone with dsl immediately, and suggest a lan party or something
[07:41] <PeerSoft> Lol, im not downloading the big shit
[07:41] <PeerSoft> im getting it all on CD
[07:41] <neutrin0> hooray synaptic
[07:41] <PeerSoft> ;] 
[07:41] <PeerSoft> all im using linux for is learning
[07:41] <PeerSoft> for now
[07:41] <PeerSoft> till i get broadband
[07:41] <PeerSoft> ill get xchat
[07:41] <PeerSoft> gaim
[07:41] <PeerSoft> and use gimp
[07:42] <thoreauputic> MadpilotPPC: the trick is to run updates while you sleep - on dialup ;)
[07:42] <PeerSoft> isnt there a nix software to manipulate win32 programs to run on nix
[07:42] <tritium> PeerSoft, the master of hitting the enter key
[07:42] <Hobbsee> peersoft: use a livecd first - it's quicker to fix
[07:42] <disasm> sambagirl: i think i spent a good 5 hours de-userfriendlying ubuntu to make it user friendly for me ;-) main problem was compiling cups from scratch because the default disables the web admin (however someone notified me of a trick after I had already done it)
[07:42] <sambagirl> how come when i try to open the windows workgroup it shows nothing inside and says it cannot display everything and show me nothing.
[07:42] <esac> i wish that linux was to the point where windows is. i really really really want to use linux but it always leaves me disappointed
[07:42] <Hobbsee> sambagirl: are you using a firewall?
[07:42] <HrdwrBoB> disasm: it's merely disabled not compiled out :)
[07:42] <thoreauputic> PeerSoft: the enter key isn't a substitute for punctuation BTW
[07:42] <sambagirl> i have a router
[07:43] <sambagirl> ahhh
[07:43] <PeerSoft> lol
[07:43] <sambagirl> i remember reading about that somewhere.
[07:43] <sambagirl> there is a default set for firewall on for ubuntu or linux correct?
[07:43] <PeerSoft> how hard is nix to learn?
[07:43] <Hobbsee> what, about firewalls being a problem at times?
[07:43] <PeerSoft> or does it just take some getting use too
[07:43] <seanj> nix is about as hard to learn as windows, imho
[07:43] <sambagirl> that explains why i cannot access the web setv er from outside my network.
[07:43] <seanj> it all just takes time :)
[07:43] <thoreauputic> PeerSoft: how long is a piece of string? And yes ;)
[07:44] <MadpilotPPC> PeerSoft, it's not that complex, if you're comfortable with computers already
[07:44] <disasm> sambagirl: no default firewall, you can see if you have any firewall rules in place with iptables -L
[07:44] <PeerSoft> yea
[07:44] <PeerSoft> I develop software on windowws
[07:44] <PeerSoft> windows*
[07:44] <PeerSoft> working on PeerShare right now a p2p application
[07:44] <PeerSoft> ;
[07:44] <PeerSoft> so i know a tad about computers
[07:45] <Hobbsee> PeerSoft: nice
[07:45] <tritium> Really?
[07:45] <tritium> That
[07:45] <tritium> sounds
[07:45] <tritium> fujn
[07:45] <tritium> PeerSoft,
[07:45] <PeerSoft> wtf is this about "enter key"
[07:45] <seanj> stop needling the person please
[07:45] <tritium> s/fujn/fun
[07:45] <thoreauputic> PeerSoft: its
[07:45] <thoreauputic> really
[07:45] <thoreauputic> annoying
[07:45] <seanj> it's called people think you have to write entire paragraphs
[07:45] <thoreauputic> when
[07:45] <thoreauputic> u
[07:45] <thoreauputic> do that
[07:45] <sambagirl> it say all 3 accept
[07:45] <sambagirl> is that correct?
[07:45] <Hobbsee> sambagrl: i've found that firestarter ends up blocking smb
[07:45] <seanj> thoreauputic, use /ignore and quit heckling :(
[07:45] <SGershon> Hi.
[07:46] <SGershon> I installed Ubuntu, and it's very nice, but it did not recognize my OnBoard nework device, and my OnBoard sound as well. Can you suggest something/someone/someplace that can help me solve this issue?
[07:46] <PeerSoft> oh thats just the way im use to typing ;x im sorry.
[07:46] <PeerSoft> im not use to typing in one sentence competely
[07:46] <disasm> sambagirl: if all 3 are accept then no firewall is enabled
[07:46] <PeerSoft> and i type fast as it is.
[07:46] <crimsun> MadpilotPPC, I don't know if you noticed, but a newer version of ffmpeg has been placed in Breezy. PPC users should be able to view WMV9 files with vlc once I get that all fixed up and uploaded.
[07:46] <tritium> seanj, it's nearly flooding
[07:46] <seanj> grr. another crappy experience in #ubuntu. i hope this is the last time i'm here
[07:46] <thoreauputic> seanj: for the benefit of others, friend, not me
[07:46] <seanj> tritium, that's hardly flooding
[07:46] <disasm> sambagirl: ps aux|grep smb show samba running?
[07:46] <PeerSoft> i dont like spending all my time talking about subjects ina a complete paragraph, due to others might miss what im saying if i need help or something yanno
[07:46] <MadpilotPPC> crimsun, good to hear - still running Hoary on this machine, but the owner of it will be glad to know that!
[07:46] <hondje> people will complain about people complaining
[07:46] <hondje> I love this place
[07:47] <PeerSoft> brb, extracting photoshop on my rents computer so I can reburn and install on my machine - the disc is a little scratched and won't extract on my PC ;x
[07:47] <sambagirl> what exactly does it say? i see things but i dont understand them.
[07:47] <PeerSoft> brb
[07:48] <SGershon> Nobody has a good advice?
[07:48] <HrdwrBoB> I have lots of good advice
[07:48] <HrdwrBoB> but I'm not sure it's relevant at this juncture :)
[07:48] <SGershon> Thanks, bob!
[07:48] <SGershon> ;)
[07:49] <disasm> sambagirl: let me reprase that: type: ps aux|grep smb you should see /usr/sbin/smbd -D about 5 times
[07:49] <HrdwrBoB> SGershon: what is your motherboard
[07:49] <sambagirl> i see it 3 times
[07:49] <disasm> ok, that should be good
[07:49] <PeerSoft> k back its extracting
[07:49] <sambagirl> i am on my boyfriends computer so i dont want to mess up things much but i will do what needs to be done.
[07:49] <SGershon> I am using a Toshiba Lapop: Satellite M40.
[07:49] <disasm> sambagirl: can you paste your smb.conf to pastebin?
[07:49] <bz0b> hey all
[07:49] <PeerSoft> hello bz0b
[07:49] <sambagirl> i dont have any glue :)
[07:49] <bz0b> yay, now i am fully upgraded to breezy, thanks for the people who helped me out earier
[07:49] <sambagirl> haha
[07:50] <sambagirl> no i dont believe so
[07:50] <PeerSoft> how hard would it be to make an application on linux? like if i wanted to make peershare a linux client?
[07:50] <cafuego_> SGershon: .. but trust me on the sunscreen.
[07:50] <PeerSoft> what language is it? Perl?
[07:50] <disasm> sambagirl: lol ;-) what did you do to setup samba? did you manually edit smb.conf, or use some utility?
[07:50] <bob2> PeerSoft: same difficulty as making it on any other OS
[07:50] <cafuego_> bob2:
[07:50] <bob2> PeerSoft: harder since you've never done it before
[07:50] <cafuego_> bob2: Well...
[07:50] <sambagirl> heh these channel ops have their work cut out for them
[07:51] <PeerSoft> lol bob2, but what language would I have to use?
[07:51] <gigaclon> Peersoft it would depend on the GUI
[07:51] <bob2> PeerSoft: anything you like
[07:51] <disasm> PeerSoft: well, if you have the source code, just modify it to run on linux using linux libraries instead of <insert proprietary library here>
[07:51] <cafuego_> PeerSoft: Pick a language, start coding. perl, php, C, python, c++, c#, Fortran, Cobol...
[07:51] <bob2> PeerSoft: there's probably > 40 complete and useful languages in ubuntu
[07:51] <sambagirl> setup samba?
[07:51] <PeerSoft> I know i cant use anything I like - Visual Basic wont run on nix lol
[07:51] <gigaclon> if you did it in GTK+ it should be easy usable
[07:51] <SGershon> HrdwrBob, do you know some application that'd help me recognizing my MoBo, my onboard network device?
[07:51] <sambagirl> i thought it was already engaged when i installed it?
[07:51] <PeerSoft> but ill do it in C++ or C#
[07:52] <HrdwrBoB> SGershon: lspci will tell you what is on thepci bus
[07:52] <CarlFK> SGershon - lspci
[07:52] <PeerSoft> have my C++ developers do it.
[07:52] <sambagirl> maybe my update try of breezy did something to mess it up?
[07:52] <cafuego_> PeerSoft: Visual basic is not a language, it's an abomination. Then again, Kylix works fine on Linux, as does REALbasic.
[07:52] <bob2> PeerSoft: ay real language, then
[07:52] <disasm> sambagirl: ok, you did sudo apt-get install samba basically?
[07:52] <sambagirl> btw what is the estimate of ubuntu users ?
[07:52] <PeerSoft> VB is just a RAD tool Rapid APplication Development tool - if u want something small fast, use it thast whats ive learned
[07:52] <sambagirl> no
[07:52] <sambagirl> i do it now
[07:53] <PeerSoft> why waste time in C/C++ or any other language to make a real small program
[07:53] <PeerSoft> yanno
[07:53] <cafuego_> PeerSoft: I used to sue VB. it's shit with a captial shit.
[07:53] <bob2> sambagirl: no one knows
[07:53] <PeerSoft> well I use .NET
[07:53] <bob2> sambagirl: more cds than you can imagine have been shipped out
[07:53] <PeerSoft> works better, and faster now
[07:53] <NsOmNiAc> hey .NET why don't you use Mono ?
[07:53] <cafuego_> PeerSoft: .net runs fine on Linux if you compile it with mono.
[07:53] <PeerSoft> oh really?
[07:53] <sambagirl> they need to put some kind of thing to register it or something or somethign but that might ruin the freedom people have so nevermind
[07:53] <PeerSoft> hrm; might hafta do that ;] 
[07:53] <sambagirl> this is not Microsoft :)
[07:53] <cafuego_> PeerSoft: Well, _should_ run fine on Linux if you compile it with mono.
[07:53] <SGershon> PeerSoft, I made an app for hte work on GTK+ and C, it was very nice, although GTK+ is not intuitive at all, and you hve to read docs all the time. Make sure you hve an internet connection with you while you code...
[07:53] <sambagirl> i try that now sudo apt-get install samba
[07:54] <PeerSoft> dont get me wrong PeerShare is being developed in C++
[07:54] <disasm> sambagirl: what directory are you trying to share?
[07:54] <PeerSoft> not VB
[07:54] <nalioth> cafuego_: why wont ubotu take a factoid?
[07:54] <bob2> SGershon: by "GTK+ is not intuitive", do you mean the C API?
[07:54] <cafuego_> C++ is marginally better then VB. But not by much.
[07:54] <SGershon> Yes, soryy, htat what I meant.
[07:54] <bob2> ah, right
[07:54] <PeerSoft> well ive learned as long as you do use MFC you'll be fine lol
[07:54] <bob2> tho all C OOP APIs I've seen have been ass ;)
[07:54] <PeerSoft> MFC downgrades it alot
[07:54] <NsOmNiAc> PeerSoft why not check out the mono project
[07:54] <NsOmNiAc> http://www.mono-project.com/Main_Page
[07:54] <gigaclon> If you have ever done JAVA GUI programming then, gtkmm is a piece of cake
[07:54] <PeerSoft> i might have to do that
[07:55] <NsOmNiAc> <3 Mono
[07:55] <sambagirl> i just want to see if it works and to install a printer. i ran linux 1.0 before but it was different. i ran xenix and a bbs under xenix and sco unix but they looked different.
[07:55] <SGershon> HrdwrBoB, CarlFK, if I use lspci, then how should I proceed?
[07:55] <cafuego_> Linux 1.0?
[07:55] <sambagirl> yes
[07:55] <PeerSoft> ive always looked for linux reference sites.. they all suck usually
[07:55] <sambagirl> slackware or something i think?
[07:55] <CarlFK> SGershon - look at the results ;)
[07:55] <PeerSoft> but #ubunto works really well ;] 
[07:55] <cafuego_> sambagirl: Are you sure?
[07:55] <sambagirl> yes
[07:55] <bob2> PeerSoft: reference sites?  you mean API documentation?
[07:55] <sambagirl> i am sure or maybe it was something else it was on cd alongtime ago my brother had it
[07:56] <cafuego_> Linux 1.0 is ouchies :-)
[07:56] <PeerSoft> Linux Learning Material
[07:56] <PeerSoft> not development
[07:56] <PeerSoft> just linux in general
[07:56] <JKnife> hey bob2 i figured ot why i was only getting 30kB/sec d/ls
[07:56] <sambagirl> he bought it came with a BIG book
[07:56] <disasm> sambagirl: well for starters, once you get samba installed, you have to edit /etc/samba/smb.conf to your liking
[07:56] <JKnife> i was using http
[07:56] <sambagirl> had cd in back.
[07:56] <PeerSoft> but brb again.
[07:56] <wickedpuppy> PeerSoft, have you tried tldp ?
[07:56] <MadpilotPPC> !tell PeerSoft about docs
[07:56] <bob2> JKnife: so?
[07:56] <sambagirl> i remember tty's and getty defs and thigns like that. it was interesting.
[07:56] <MadpilotPPC> !tell PeerSoft about cli
[07:56] <JKnife> now i get 200kB
[07:56] <sambagirl> rand bbs called coconet was graphical
[07:56] <bob2> if http is significantly slower than ftp or anything else, your network is broken
[07:56] <JKnife> using ftp
[07:57] <SGershon> Ok, CarlFK. Unfortunately, beause my linux doesn't recognize my network device, I'll need to reboot later, use lspci, and then come back for more help.
[07:57] <SGershon> (I am now on Windows)
[07:57] <cafuego_> bob2: Or you have a BOFH who's modifying your bandwidth so he cna fetch pron faster.
[07:57] <bob2> hah
[07:57] <JKnife> SGershon, what type of card to you have
[07:57] <cafuego_> not that I'd ever do such a thing...
[07:57] <SGershon> I am using a Toshiba Lapop: Satellite M40.
[07:57] <sambagirl> doing the thing now
[07:57] <CarlFK> SGershon - look around for lspci for win - it is out there
[07:57] <sambagirl> brb
[07:57] <ColonelKernel> what the heck is wrong with glxgears in breezy?
[07:57] <cafuego_> ColonelKernel: Nothing.
[07:57] <wickedpuppy> ColonelKernel, very wrong
[07:57] <sambagirl> somethign is happening
[07:57] <sambagirl> brb
[07:57] <bob2> cafuego_: I'd've thought you''d run driftnet and let the lusers find the porn for you
[07:57] <JKnife> network card
[07:57] <ColonelKernel> A- its SUPER slow B-no text output
[07:58] <bob2> ColonelKernel: read the changelog
[07:58] <wickedpuppy> agreed ...
[07:58] <disasm> ooh boy, its 2 am got classes in the morning, time to sleep...
[07:58] <ColonelKernel> and I know that my nvidia setup is tight because I can play enemy territory
[07:58] <JKnife> right click on my computer soto propteries the hardware then device manager
[07:58] <cafuego_> ColonelKernel: 'glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark'
[07:58] <bob2> ColonelKernel: glxgears is not a benchmarking tool, remember
[07:58] <JKnife> goto*
[07:58] <ColonelKernel> bob2, the breezy changelog?
[07:58] <bob2> ColonelKernel: no, the glxgears changelog
[07:58] <ColonelKernel> bob2, where can I find that?
[07:59] <bob2> ColonelKernel: the same place every other changelog is on your system?
[07:59] <cafuego_> ColonelKernel: just ebcaus erthe gears spin slowly doesn't mean don't get redrawn in vram 5000 times a second.
[07:59] <sambagirl> did grep thing again still same thing. i try install again brb
[07:59] <bob2> ColonelKernel: /usr/share/doc/packagename/changelog.Debian.gz
[07:59] <ColonelKernel> thank you
[07:59] <sambagirl> wow it says breezy
[07:59] <ColonelKernel> thank you
[07:59] <sambagirl> something going on here
[07:59] <SGershon> JKnife, the network card is Marvell Yukon 88E8036 PCI-E Fast Ethernet Controller
[08:00] <sambagirl> thank you for your help
[08:00] <sambagirl> can i private message whoemver it is i talked with/
[08:00] <sambagirl> ?
[08:00] <SGershon> That's what Windows Manager says
[08:00] <sambagirl> oh then you have to do that config thing.
[08:00] <bz0b> fluxbox is godly!
[08:00] <JKnife> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=220663
[08:00] <PeerSoft> back
[08:00] <NsOmNiAc> <3 fluxbox
[08:01] <bz0b> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<3 fluxbox!
[08:01] <JKnife> E17 is imo better then fluxbox... dont get me wrong i LOVE fluxbox
[08:01] <PeerSoft> thx madpilot
[08:01] <NsOmNiAc> I haven't played with the latest version of E ye t
[08:01] <NsOmNiAc> have they released a stable version yet ?
[08:01] <JKnife> no
[08:01] <JKnife> still pre-aplha
[08:01] <JKnife> alpha*
[08:02] <NsOmNiAc> yeahh I'm waiting
[08:02] <bob2> that thread is ridiculous
[08:02] <cafuego_> !ita
[08:02] <ubotu> rumour has it, ita is italiano es #ubuntu-it per favore
[08:02] <PeerSoft> question..
[08:03] <NsOmNiAc> answer ....
[08:03] <PeerSoft> with MonoBasic... you can run that in linux using basic coding?
[08:03] <BlueEagle> argument..
[08:03] <NsOmNiAc> yup
[08:03] <SGershon> JKnife, It ooks great, I'll try to understand what people say there.... ;)
[08:03] <transgress_> is there a way to check if inotify is enabled on the kernel i'm running?
[08:03] <PeerSoft> nice
[08:03] <NsOmNiAc> and you can get MonoDevelop
[08:03] <NsOmNiAc> it's in Synaptic Package manager
[08:03] <cafuego_> PeerSoft: the goal is 100% compatibility. When you ahve tome tim, also check out 'beagle'.
[08:03] <bob2> transgress_: grep INOTIFY /boot/config-$(uname -r)
[08:03] <cafuego_> "have some time"
[08:04] <PeerSoft> k
[08:04] <PeerSoft> link do u have one?
[08:04] <JKnife> i dont like the gnome-pkg manager
[08:04] <cafuego_> !beagle
[08:04] <ubotu> it has been said that beagle is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryBeagleInstallHowto
[08:04] <cafuego_> JKnife: Then sue another one.
[08:05] <JKnife> sue another one?
[08:05] <gvrocha> I am having trouble with apache2. 4 instances of it appear in the ps -e but when I try to http://localhost I get timed out
[08:05] <sambagirl> ok says starting samba demon
[08:05] <cafuego_> JKnife: yeah, lawyers
[08:05] <JKnife> :-/
[08:05] <sambagirl> what file i needed to configure/
[08:05] <cafuego_> gvrocha: Is apache listening on 127.0.0.1 ?
[08:05] <JKnife> gvrocha, try 127.0.0.1
[08:05] <gvrocha> the output for netstat -plot shows tcp6       0      0 :::80                   :::*                    LISTEN     -                   off (0.00/0/0)
[08:05] <gvrocha> I've tried 127.0.0.1 doesn't work either
[08:05] <cafuego_> gvrocha: firewall? is the 'lo' interface up?
[08:06] <MadpilotPPC> !tell gvrocha about apache
[08:06] <gvrocha> cafuego: how can I tell?
[08:06] <JKnife> ifconfig lo
[08:06] <cafuego_> gvrocha: Actually, that netstats output shows it's listening on all ivp6 addresses... not ipv4 ones.
[08:06] <sambagirl> do i have to use vi to edit? i hate that thing.
[08:06] <bob2> MadpilotPPC: that factoid doesn't seem very related
[08:06] <SGershon> The Ubuntu installation I did is : DISKNAME  Ubuntu 5.04 "Hoary Hedgehog" - Release i386. Is there something newer/better?
[08:06] <bob2> sambagirl: use any editor you like
[08:06] <bob2> SGershon: no
[08:06] <sambagirl> ok
[08:06] <bob2> SGershon: it only came out 5 months ago
[08:06] <sambagirl> thank you bob
[08:06] <dell500> does anyone know how I might fix this HUGE resolution problem??
[08:07] <gigaclon> SGershon, not stable
[08:07] <cafuego_> Ubuntu Vista is due out in 2007.
[08:07] <gvrocha> cafuego: hum... what does that mean?
[08:07] <cafuego_> !tell dell500 -about fixres
[08:07] <SGershon> dell500: not stable?
[08:07] <atha> gvrocha: just a guesss, but try http://ip-6-localhost/
[08:07] <sambagirl> this the correct command?  edit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[08:07] <MadpilotPPC> bob2, gvrocha was about to suggest stop & restart of Apache, and/or check ports.conf, all of which is referenced from that wiki URL...
[08:07] <cafuego_> gvrocha: Probably that it's time for a break.
[08:07] <bob2> sambagirl: no, whataever editor you like
[08:07] <atha> if that works, it's indeed listening only the ipv6 address
[08:08] <gigaclon> 5.10 is currently in beta release
[08:08] <bob2> sambagirl: how did you edit files on linux 1.0?
[08:08] <sambagirl> vi
[08:08] <bob2> sambagirl: (nano /etc/samba/smb.conf would work)
[08:08] <thoreauputic> bob2: ed, perhaps ;)
[08:08] <gvrocha> cafuego: what do u mean?
[08:08] <Chousuke> Heh, I wonder what Linux 1.0 was like :P
[08:08] <sambagirl> vi was what i used. it's not easy to use vi.
[08:08] <gvrocha> MadpilotPPC: what are you talking about?
[08:09] <bjv> from gnome-office, what is the name of the spreadsheet program?
[08:09] <NsOmNiAc> sure it is .. just takes some time getting used to
[08:09] <bjv> im trying to find just it in APT.
[08:09] <NsOmNiAc> Gnumeric
[08:09] <sambagirl> nano works thanks much.
[08:09] <gvrocha> could anyone refer me to a troubleshooting guide for apache2 at least?
[08:09] <MadpilotPPC> gvrocha, best to ignore me, it's late and I shouldn't be on IRC... ;)
[08:09] <X7C> how do i see which services i have installed?
[08:09] <bjv> NsOmNiAc: roger.
[08:09] <bjv> thx.
[08:09] <gvrocha> MadpilotPPC: me neither...
[08:09] <NsOmNiAc> np
[08:09] <xiaogil> how to send a drawer with its content using scp ?
[08:09] <sambagirl> uppercase lower case sensitive important?
[08:10] <er4z0r> re
[08:10] <bob2> xiaogil: drawer? you mean directory?
[08:10] <xiaogil> yes
[08:10] <Chousuke> xiaogil: scp -r
[08:10] <NsOmNiAc> scp -r
[08:10] <bob2> rsync is a lot less suck than scp, tho
[08:10] <Chousuke> is rsync encrypted?
[08:10] <gvrocha> could anyone refer me to a troubleshooting guide for apache2 at least?
[08:10] <MadpilotPPC> gvrocha, I've no idea how familiar you are with Apache2, but that Ubuntu wiki page I had ubotu send you does have some basic config info on it
[08:11] <BlueEagle> chousuke: I do not think so.
[08:11] <xiaogil> scp -r mydirectory user@192.168.0.x right ?
[08:11] <sambagirl> I just change workgroup name right? leave everything else be, no?
[08:11] <Chousuke> BlueEagle: 'k
[08:11] <bob2> Chousuke: it runs over ssh
[08:11] <dell500> my resolution problem has to do with trying to extend my desktop to dual monitors
[08:11] <bob2> Chousuke: so, yes
[08:11] <Chousuke> xiaogil: no.
[08:11] <Chousuke> you forgot the :
[08:11] <xiaogil> scp -r mydirectory user@192.168.0.x: right ?
[08:11] <atha> jes
[08:11] <Chousuke> yes.
[08:11] <NsOmNiAc> yup
[08:12] <xiaogil> thanx
[08:12] <X7C> how do i see which services i have running?
[08:12] <PeerSoft> console
[08:12] <PeerSoft> top
[08:12] <PeerSoft> =X
[08:12] <PeerSoft> i think
[08:12] <PeerSoft> ;x
[08:12] <Chousuke> that shows all processes :P
[08:12] <X7C> :S
[08:12] <PeerSoft> at least I did a right cmd
[08:12] <PeerSoft> ;)
[08:12] <bob2> X7C: define services
[08:12] <Chousuke> or those consimung most memory.
[08:12] <hansi_xp> anybody know of any good tutorials for linux?
[08:12] <sambagirl> does nano save when you exit?
[08:12] <gvrocha> MadpilotPC: I didn't get the URL... only  !tell gvrocha about apache
[08:12] <BlueEagle> dell500: dual monitors are a breeze with nVidia cards.
[08:13] <thoreauputic> sambagirl: ctrl-x and say yes
[08:13] <Chousuke> only if you tell it to.
[08:13] <X7C> bob2 X7C: define services << stuff i don't really use, the system believes it's useful
[08:13] <dell500> BlueEagle, thanks
[08:13] <BlueEagle> dell500: Need any help with that?
[08:13] <sambagirl> thank you
[08:13] <bjv> after reading ps -A for a couple hours i get a pretty clear idea of what is running on a box.
[08:13] <Hobbsee> hansi_xp: control-escape.com ?
[08:13] <MadpilotPPC> gvrocha, ubotu should have sent you a /msg - but here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[08:14] <dell500> BlueEagle, ya :)
[08:14] <xiaogil> how to see the current user on windows, so that i can use ssh to send and retrieve datas from ubuntu ?
[08:14] <hansi_xp> Hobbsee: thanks dude, that's cool
[08:14] <bjv> that first  ps -A   on a new machine/distro is pretty wild though.
[08:14] <dell500> BlueEagle, it's an ATI card though
[08:14] <Hobbsee> hansi_xp: no problem
[08:14] <BlueEagle> dell500: Well the xorg.conf would be mostly the same.
[08:14] <benplaut> how can i make GTK apps in KDE look the same as they do in gnome?
[08:14] <NilXu> is there a bug that makes the installation of breezy not ask for a root password?
[08:14] <Chousuke> NilXu: no
[08:14] <dell500> the resolution is correct, but it spans on both screens, but it's like i have to scroll around on the desktop to find stuff
[08:14] <dell500> make sense?
[08:15] <Chousuke> NilXu: use sudo
[08:15] <NilXu> mine didnt
[08:15] <bonee> how do i install a .deb file
[08:15] <Chousuke> there is no root on ubuntu
[08:15] <thoreauputic> !tell NilXu about root
[08:15] <atha> xiaogil: you cannot (from ubuntu client to windows), unless you have ssh server on windows installed
[08:15] <vikash> i
[08:15] <vikash> hi
[08:15] <NsOmNiAc> sure there is you just have to enable root
[08:15] <sambagirl> do i need to reboot befcause it still shows the old work group or stop and restart samba?
[08:15] <NilXu> waht do you mean there is no root?
[08:15] <Chousuke> bonee: dpkg -i  file.deb
[08:15] <Chousuke> NsOmNiAc: which you shouldn't do
[08:15] <NsOmNiAc> nope
[08:15] <Chousuke> NilXu: root login is disabled.
[08:15] <vikash> hi can anybody tell me how to stop animations while minimizing and maximizing winsows
[08:15] <thoreauputic> NilXu: read the URL ubotu sent you
[08:16] <Chousuke> NilXu: use sudo with your user password
[08:16] <NilXu> even in character cell?
[08:16] <Chousuke> yes.
[08:16] <thoreauputic> !root
[08:16] <ubotu> hmm... root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[08:16] <gvrocha> MadpilotPPC: I tried restarting and get a message httpd not running... should httpd show up in ps -e after restarting???
[08:16] <thoreauputic> NilXu: ^^^] 
[08:16] <Thunderguy> What do you mean there is no root on ubuntu?
[08:16] <vikash> u can enable root
[08:16] <Chousuke> do sudo apt-get install foo for example
[08:16] <NilXu> !root
[08:16] <Thunderguy> is there not one on breezy or something?
[08:16] <vikash> root account can be enabled
[08:16] <Chousuke> Thunderguy: I meant it's disabled.
[08:16] <Thunderguy> sudo su, right?
[08:16] <Chousuke> and unnecessary
[08:16] <Chousuke> no
[08:16] <Chousuke> sudo -s
[08:17] <Chousuke> or sudo -i
[08:17] <thoreauputic> sudo -i actually
[08:17] <vikash> go to administration<login screen setup
[08:17] <vikash> security
[08:17] <NilXu> well i enabled it by clearing the "*" in the shadow file and then setting a password
[08:17] <vikash> check  permit root to login from gdm
[08:17] <Chousuke> vikash: You shouldn't do that.
[08:17] <Chousuke> no.
[08:17] <vikash> open terminal
[08:17] <Chousuke> that's wrong too
[08:17] <vikash> type sudo passwd root
[08:17] <Chousuke> wtf.
[08:17] <gigaclon> but it's is not recommended
[08:17] <gigaclon> sudo commands get logged
[08:17] <vikash> ya it's not recommended
[08:17] <gigaclon> root command do not
[08:17] <Chousuke> NilXu: why?
[08:18] <Thunderguy> Yeah I set up ubuntu on expert only heh.
[08:18] <vikash> but u can enable it
[08:18] <vikash> as i told
[08:18] <Thunderguy> so I didn't know about the root not being enabled.
[08:18] <Chousuke> NilXu:  having root login is unnecessary
[08:18] <NilXu> i have just never done an install before when it didnt ask for a root pass
[08:18] <Chousuke> NilXu: Yeah, ubuntu is unique in that regard
[08:18] <vikash> follow what i told u
[08:18] <ghita> hi
[08:18] <vikash> and ur root account will be enabled
[08:19] <NilXu> it makes setting up your server a lot easier
[08:19] <ghita> can enyone compile with gcc?
[08:19] <Chousuke> NilXu: not really
[08:19] <NsOmNiAc> sudo = safer
[08:19] <Chousuke> NilXu: sudo -i gives you a root shell
[08:19] <Thunderguy> If you don't setup a root account, doesn't any user gain access to destroy the system?
[08:19] <vikash> ya
[08:19] <Chousuke> Thunderguy: no.
[08:19] <thoreauputic> ghita: install build-esential
[08:19] <Thunderguy> That doesn't make sense.
[08:19] <iin> hi
[08:19] <NsOmNiAc> for example if you have other users you only want to be able to do certain things you can edit sudoers and be specific
[08:19] <NsOmNiAc> Thunderguy no
[08:19] <thoreauputic> ghita: build-essential, sorry
[08:19] <vikash> how can i stop animation
[08:19] <Chousuke> Thunderguy: only the first user is considered an admin
[08:19] <NilXu> Chousuke: i guess that makes sense it was just really weird
[08:19] <Thunderguy> ah ok.
[08:20] <Chousuke> NilXu: Yrah.
[08:20] <vikash> how can i stop animations
[08:20] <NsOmNiAc> and is the only user that can use sudo unless otherwise specified
[08:20] <vikash> how can i stop animations
[08:20] <Chousuke> vikash: stop repeating
[08:20] <Thunderguy> and, su passwd root, resets the root account?
[08:20] <Chousuke> Ubuntu should be more clear about the fact that it uses sudo
[08:20] <NilXu> Chousuke: i guess it would have made even nmore sense if there was at least something in the install documenting it
[08:20] <ghita> I have everything installed but evry time i try to compile a program or the lirc driver I get:C compiler cannot create executables
[08:20] <kumakun> What plugin do I need to playback mpg files?
[08:20] <Thunderguy> mpg1-2-3
[08:21] <thoreauputic> ghita: install build-essential
[08:21] <vikash> hey chousuke plz help me
[08:21] <thoreauputic> ghita: as I said
[08:21] <student> hi....
[08:21] <NsOmNiAc> vikash it would help if you would tell us which window manager your using
[08:21] <kumakun> thunderguy: was that to me?
[08:21] <Chousuke> like: To experts: THIS DISTRO USES SUDO INSTEAD OF ROOT! DO NOT BE CONFUSED.
[08:21] <vikash> if u people do not reply how would
[08:21] <ghita> build-essential is installed
[08:21] <vikash> gnome
[08:21] <snausages> how do i associate all video files with mplayer ?
[08:21] <NilXu> i guess
[08:21] <Thunderguy> Yeah.. might be different though hang on
[08:21] <vikash> ubuntu 5.10
[08:21] <Chousuke> noob users need not know
[08:21] <NilXu> true
[08:21] <CarlFK> ghita - there is a configure.log file or something - near the end will be some details on your problem
[08:22] <kumakun> Thanks.
[08:22] <Chousuke> since whenever they do something that needs admin privileges, ubuntu will prompt them for their password
[08:22] <vikash> he nsomni
[08:22] <thoreauputic> snausages: in the file manager, right click file, choose properties, set app
[08:22] <vikash> do u know how to do that
[08:22] <ghita> configure:1214: gcc -o conftest -O2 -g -Wall   conftest.c  1>&5
[08:23] <ghita> configure:1211: warning: return type defaults to 'int'
[08:23] <snausages> thoreauputic, thanks
[08:23] <ghita> /usr/bin/ld: crt1.o: No such file: No such file or directory
[08:23] <scanwinder> would most pcmcia usb cards be linux compatible?
[08:23] <NsOmNiAc> Sytem - Preferences - Windows
[08:23] <NilXu> Chousuke: what is the time limit before sudo reqiuires you to enter pass again; and can it be changed?
[08:23] <thoreauputic> snausages: no worries :)
[08:23] <NsOmNiAc> that was for your vikash
[08:23] <Chousuke> NilXu: yes.
[08:23] <Chousuke> NilXu: it's 15 seconds or something
[08:23] <vikash> when i tried to make vlc my default player it gave error"could not add to application database"
[08:23] <weeemann> so where would there be a place to download the w32codecs package? :-\
[08:23] <Chousuke> can't remember the config file though.
[08:23] <MadpilotPPC> 15 minutes, isn't it? for sudo?
[08:23] <thoreauputic> NilXu: 15 minutes from memory
[08:24] <vikash> how can i ix that
[08:24] <n00bster> good morning evryone
[08:24] <Chousuke> minutes?
[08:24] <Chousuke> wtf. :P
[08:24] <thoreauputic> MadpilotPPC: yes I think so
[08:24] <Chousuke> that's an eternity.
[08:24] <NilXu> Chousuke: i assume it would mention it in the man page
[08:24] <thoreauputic> Chousuke: it's configurable :)
[08:24] <sambagirl> 1v simple question if you have a router you configure your network properties and static address since your machine address is always the same to the routher understand?
[08:24] <Chousuke> thoreauputic: yes.
[08:24] <vikash> chousuke help me
[08:24] <Chousuke> vikash: I can't.
[08:24] <MadpilotPPC> Chousuke, there's a command to kill sudo's pw right away - sudo -<something>... man sudo will tell you
[08:25] <NsOmNiAc> vikash: should be system-preferences-preferred applications
[08:25] <vikash> anybody know how to make vlc as default player
[08:25] <Chousuke> thoreauputic: wasn't your nick thoreauptic at some point? ;/
[08:25] <ColonelKernel> sudo doesnt work like it does on Ubuntu on other distros
[08:25] <thoreauputic> Chousuke: no, never
[08:25] <Chousuke> duh.
[08:25] <Chousuke> well, that's how I've been reading it then
[08:25] <X7C> is it posible to uninstall mysql without deleting the ubuntu-desktop package?
[08:25] <thoreauputic> :)
[08:26] <Chousuke> ColonelKernel: It's not that difficult to set up though.
[08:26] <vikash> NsOmni  there is no option for media files
[08:26] <bimberi> ghita: try installing libc6-dev
[08:26] <ColonelKernel> Chousuke, no not at all - the setup is the same for me anyhow
[08:26] <kumakun> Thunderguy: What was that download again?
[08:26] <ColonelKernel> but in Centos for instance theres no sudo -i
[08:26] <X7C> is it posible to uninstall mysql without deleting the ubuntu-desktop package?
[08:26] <ColonelKernel> which makes su completely unneccesary
[08:26] <vikash> tell me about any good c++ compiler to learn c++ in ubuntu 5.10
[08:26] <X7C> oe maybe just stop the daemon
[08:27] <Chousuke> vikash: for learning?
[08:27] <Chousuke> g++ is a compiler
[08:27] <vikash> ya
[08:27] <vikash> chousuke
[08:27] <atha> X7C: its
[08:27] <atha> it's safe to remove ubuntu-desktop
[08:27] <Chousuke> but just using it won't teach you a thing :/
[08:27] <thoreauputic> vikash: g++ is included in build-essential
[08:27] <X7C> ah
[08:27] <X7C> :S
[08:27] <ghita> libc6-dev is instaled
[08:27] <NsOmNiAc> vikash : shrug
[08:27] <vikash> suppose i write an program then how can i compile it
[08:27] <ghita> i will try to reinstallit
[08:27] <Chousuke> g++ is actually gcc which links with c++ libs
[08:27] <vikash> how can i install g++
[08:28] <SGershon> What is the difference between warty and hoary? Is there a third type?
[08:28] <feralgirl> has anyone had any luck installing a D-Link G630?
[08:28] <thoreauputic> vikash: I just told you above
[08:28] <bimberi> ghita: it should include the file usr/lib/crt1.o
[08:28] <thoreauputic> vikash: install the build-essential package
[08:28] <MadpilotPPC> later, all. need sleep badly...
[08:28] <vikash> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:29] <vikash> shall it work
[08:29] <thoreauputic> vikash: right
[08:29] <gvrocha> what does the proto column on the output of netstat means???
[08:29] <dooglus> NsOmNiAc: you don't need to edit sudoers, just tick the relevant box when creating the new users.
[08:29] <vikash> ok thanx
[08:29] <Thunderguy> not sure kumakun, think this might be it? apt-get install gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg
[08:29] <vikash> thoreauputic
[08:29] <vikash> thoreauputic  u ever used windows xp
[08:29] <kumakun> Okay. brb
[08:30] <atha> gvrocha: type of the listening (or connected) socket
[08:30] <vikash> we compile java programs using javac <filename>  in windows
[08:30] <X7C> postfix is the thing that manages mailing in the system right?
[08:30] <cafuego_> gvrocha: the kind of socket. unix (local), ipv4/ipv6 - tcp/udp
[08:30] <vikash> how can we compile  java  programsin linux
[08:30] <gvrocha> atha: if apache2 is listening on tcp6, what does that mean?
[08:30] <cafuego_> X7C: mail delivery yes
[08:30] <vikash> i have installed j2sdk 1.4.2.09
[08:30] <vikash> thoreauputic
[08:31] <vikash> where r u
[08:31] <kumakun> Must be more to it, Thunderguy. I've got the latest version of that, and I'm still not getting mpeg support.
[08:31] <cafuego_> vikash: the same way; javac foo.java
[08:31] <vikash> in terminal
[08:31] <thoreauputic> vikash: I know nothing about compiling java, sorry
[08:31] <X7C> thx
[08:31] <vikash> cafuego  help me
[08:31] <X7C> it's got nothing to do with external accounts i have, right?
[08:32] <vikash> i should place program in bin directory
[08:32] <dooglus> vikash: use 'javac' to compile java
[08:32] <vikash> one i tried
[08:32] <dooglus> vikash: use 'apt-file search' to find a package containing bin/javac
[08:32] <SGershon> What is the difference between warty and hoary? Is there a third type?
[08:32] <vikash> ok
[08:32] <thoreauputic> vikash: stop asking particular people to help you - if someone can, they will
[08:32] <vikash> ok thoreauputic
[08:33] <atha> gvrocha: it's listening on a IPv6 address for some reason
[08:33] <dooglus> vikash: javac will compile a .java file to a .class file
[08:33] <dooglus> vikash: then you use 'java' to run the .class file
[08:33] <wickedpuppy> lol ... shouldn't it be asked on #java instead ?
[08:33] <coolj101> hi guys, would anyone happen to have any idea how I can get an HP Mezzanine Fibre Channel card up and running?
[08:34] <coolj101> I
[08:34] <coolj101> I've got ubuntu running on a Blade Server and I'd like to connect it to the SAN.
[08:34] <SGershon> So, I think htere is a third. Hoary, Warty, and Breezy.
[08:35] <SGershon> What are they? Whats the diference?
[08:35] <gvrocha> atha: what is the "standard" way of listening? I cannot get http://locahost nor http:127.0.0.1 to work... Is this what is causing the trouble?
[08:35] <vikash> while compiling with javac  it shows error  bash:javac not found
[08:35] <atha> gvrocha: just try for a test: http://ip6-localhost/
[08:35] <wickedpuppy> vikash, then you got no javac!!!!
[08:35] <andysl> hey
[08:36] <thoreauputic> SGershon: warty=first hoary=current breezy=development (breezy will release Oct 13)
[08:36] <[Wiebel] > *sigh*
[08:36] <wickedpuppy> i think its obvious ...
[08:36] <andysl> how do you get the win32 codec support in breezy?
[08:36] <vikash> javac is there in /usr/java/j2sdk/bin
[08:36] <wickedpuppy> do you have it in your path vikash  ???
[08:36] <[Wiebel] > nice to keep a channel only opend for regged users, but everytime the ircnet splits i get kicked because i'm not registered anymore
[08:36] <SGershon> Thanks Thoreauputic.
[08:36] <[Wiebel] > pretty anoying
[08:36] <gvrocha> atha: it does work...
[08:36] <vikash> how can i add it in path
[08:36] <wickedpuppy> try typing java then press tab tab ... if you don't see javac then its not in your path
[08:37] <wickedpuppy> vikash, edit path at /etc/profile
[08:37] <thoreauputic> [Wiebel] : it's a measure against spambots - sorry
[08:37] <gvrocha> atha: what is the difference of the usual way and this ip6-* way?
[08:37] <[Wiebel] > thoreauputic: that's understandable
[08:37] <thoreauputic> [Wiebel] : we aren't always +r
[08:37] <[Wiebel] > i know
[08:37] <vikash> should i add it to path even if i am compiling a file in bin directory
[08:37] <[Wiebel] > but it's alway at night :)
[08:38] <SGershon>  thoreauputic, is there a problem in installing Breezy? It seems tat my Network device is supported there.
[08:38] <wickedpuppy> vikash, you are compiling a prog in /usr/local ??
[08:38] <bimberi> ubotu tell andysl about w32codecs
[08:38] <wickedpuppy> not in your /home dir ?
[08:38] <gvrocha> atha: how do I get apache2 to work in the "usual" way (http://localhost/)???
[08:38] <vikash> ya
[08:38] <[Wiebel] > ubotu tell me about w32codecs
[08:38] <wickedpuppy> you are going to be sudo all the time ?
[08:38] <vikash> /usr/java/j2sdk/bin
[08:38] <atha> gvrocha: check your messages, i'll explain
[08:38] <thoreauputic> SGershon: depends on how comfortable you are with a pre-release distro - up to you really
[08:38] <vikash> ya
[08:39] <bimberi> [Wiebel] : "/msg ubotu w32codecs" is less typing :)
[08:39] <wickedpuppy> holy ... i suggest no! pls ... add the path and do it in your home
[08:39] <vikash> but it shows javac not found
[08:39] <wickedpuppy> there is a reason why you got home and the progs are in another dir
[08:39] <vikash> but whenit is not working there then how it would work in home
[08:39] <ompaul> I just restarted my wm - I needed to killall esd to get audio to work - strange
[08:39] <SGershon> I don't think I really mind. I'll give it a try.
[08:39] <SGershon> Can I just install it on top of the hoary install, or I need to install breezy from inside warty?
[08:39] <ompaul> thats on breezy
[08:39] <vikash> how do i know what to type in path
[08:39] <thoreauputic> vikash: you need to edit your PATH
[08:39] <vikash> can u tell me
[08:40] <[Wiebel] > bimberi: :>
[08:40] <wickedpuppy> vikash, have you seen /etc/profile ?
[08:40] <vikash> no
[08:40] <n00bster> i forgot the command to edit xorg file -is it  sudu gedit /etc/xii/xorg.conf ?
[08:40] <dooglus> vikash: PATH=/usr/java/j2sdk/bin:$PATH
[08:40] <wickedpuppy> pls do ?
[08:40] <vikash> ok
[08:40] <wickedpuppy> pls ... pls pls pls read the file and ask
[08:40] <thoreauputic> !tell SGershon about upgrade2breezy
[08:40] <bjv> n00bster: X11 ?
[08:40] <dooglus> vikash: check it afterwards by typing "type javac" - it should be found now
[08:40] <bjv> capital X
[08:40] <thoreauputic> SGershon: read the /msg ubotu sent you
[08:41] <SGershon> :) thanks!
[08:41] <dooglus> is www.google.com down?
[08:41] <wickedpuppy> ...
[08:41] <wickedpuppy> are you nut ?
[08:41] <wickedpuppy> lol
[08:41] <n00bster> i cant tell if it's x11 or xii from the font L)
[08:41] <[Wiebel] > no, it's not on your internet floppy
[08:41] <wickedpuppy> ok no ... google is not down
[08:41] <n00bster> :)
[08:41] <[Wiebel] > please download floppy #2
[08:41] <dooglus> oh.  I can't reach it.
[08:41] <ompaul> dooglus, no, it has been a while since they managed to do that :)
[08:41] <vikash> the last line in my profile is umask  022
[08:41] <bjv>  n00bster: ah, select/middleclick and it doesnt matter? :P
[08:41] <wickedpuppy> billy@wicked1:~/programming/bash$ ping google.com.sg
[08:42] <wickedpuppy> PING google.com.sg (216.239.39.104) 56(84) bytes of data.
[08:42] <wickedpuppy> 64 bytes from 216.239.39.104: icmp_seq=1 ttl=240 time=341 ms
[08:42] <bjv> or are you not in a full gui. :P
[08:42] <wickedpuppy> there you go
[08:42] <n00bster> i'll tray ty.
[08:42] <dooglus> oh, I can ping it.  can't access port 80 though.
[08:42] <thoreauputic> vikash: I think you need to read some basic stuff about *nix
[08:42] <n00bster> middleclick o's nothing
[08:43] <n00bster> i just want to edit xorg resolution table
[08:43] <dooglus> http://216.239.39.104/ is ok too, but it's the english one.
[08:43] <wickedpuppy> can't check google.com ... i am redirected to .sg
[08:43] <wickedpuppy> google.com.sg is alive though
[08:43] <n00bster> middleclick Do's nothing*
[08:44] <bjv> n00bster: ah, generally in linux a middle click will paste whatever the last thing you highlighted with the mouse.
[08:44] <thoreauputic> vikash: http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Teaching/Unix/
[08:44] <n00bster> ok, bjv, igot it :} 10q u.
[08:44] <wickedpuppy> n00bster, it can scroll too ... :P
[08:45] <wickedpuppy> lol
[08:45] <jayson_I> heloo dude..
[08:45] <bjv> bah, why scroll when you can shift+pup the term. :P
[08:45] <vikash> after adding path it still shows javac is not known command
[08:45] <bjv> i need that wheel for pasting, man!
[08:45] <kumakun> Anyone have insight on mpeg playback in breezy?
[08:46] <thoreauputic> vikash: hash -r
[08:46] <ompaul> n00bster, this is irc not a mobile phone :)
[08:46] <vikash> hash -r  is used for what
[08:46] <wickedpuppy> vikash, can paste us your PATH ?
[08:46] <vikash> ya wait a minute
[08:46] <ompaul> vikash, only the longer one
[08:46] <wickedpuppy> just one line k ?
[08:47] <bjv> ompaul: yeah, i was like "ten que.. wha? whatever."
[08:47] <jayson_I> where i can download a site does have a pdf tutorial in C# and other languges?
[08:47] <n00bster> ompaul - i apologize if i was flooding.
[08:47] <dooglus> shouldn't have to rehash I don't think
[08:47] <darklogic> oops, i just killed the kde panel
[08:47] <wickedpuppy> jayson_I,  you want to download a pdf tutorial on C# and other languages ?
[08:47] <ompaul> n00bster, you were not .. (yet)
[08:48] <vikash> PATH=/usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2._09/bin:$PATH
[08:48] <darklogic> whats it called so i can start it up again?
[08:48] <darklogic> anyone?
[08:48] <bjv> jayson_I: if you can learn the C# 'language' from one pdf i am going to be laughing sooo hard all evening. :P
[08:48] <dooglus> vikash: did you put it into single quotes?
[08:48] <wickedpuppy> vikash, pls quote ?
[08:49] <vikash> whole string
[08:49] <jayson_I> wickedpuppy: can you help me for my problem?
[08:49] <wickedpuppy> yup ... single or double
[08:49] <nerdy2> bjv, imho i wouldn't
[08:49] <wickedpuppy> jayson_I, nope ... you can't learn any language from one pdf ... not even awk!!!
[08:49] <jayson_I> bjv: that's y i'm trying to find more pdf tutorial
[08:49] <wickedpuppy> that pdf gotta be one big pdf
[08:49] <oneifreak> wickedpuppy: maybe html
[08:50] <wickedpuppy> maybe ... no idea about C# but other languages are all on the net
[08:50] <ompaul> wickedpuppy, ebook sized perhaps
[08:50] <wickedpuppy> C/C++ all plenty
[08:50] <darklogic> can anyone tell me how to start my kde panel??
[08:50] <n00bster> anyhow, i managed it. so thank you all.  :}
[08:50] <wickedpuppy> ah ebook .. thats perhaps
[08:50] <nerdy2> wickedpuppy, yes there's C# as well, i think MS has a reference site somewhere, and of course the mono guys
[08:50] <vikash> ya i used  quotes but still giving error
[08:50] <jayson_I> wickedpuppy: what i'm trying to say is a site that offers a pdf file tutorial.
[08:50] <darklogic> i killed it accidentally :(
[08:50] <selinium> jayson_I, Have you asked in ##csharp ? :)
[08:50] <thoreauputic> darklogic: type kicker
[08:50] <wickedpuppy> dark, startkde or startx
[08:50] <n00bster> cya..
[08:51] <wickedpuppy> kicker ? thats new to me
[08:51] <jayson_I> yup:
[08:51] <HrdwrBoB> kicker is the KDE panel
[08:51] <darklogic> thoreauputic, thanks bro
[08:51] <wickedpuppy> vikash, type bash
[08:51] <kumakun> Okay, this problem seems to be isolated to totem.
[08:51] <thoreauputic> wickedpuppy: it's the name of the panel program
[08:51] <wickedpuppy> it will force the shell to read from the config files
[08:51] <kumakun> So, I guess my next question becomes is there a way to make Xine the default player for firefox?
[08:51] <wickedpuppy> oh panel ... ah k
[08:51] <wickedpuppy> thanks thoreauputic
[08:51] <thoreauputic> wickedpuppy: :)
[08:52] <selinium> hi thoreauputic :)
[08:52] <thoreauputic> hi selinium :)
[08:52] <vikash> wickedpuppy i am sending my profile file
[08:52] <wickedpuppy> vikash, pls use the pastebin
[08:52] <wickedpuppy> !pastebin
[08:52] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:53] <kumakun> Or is it just a matter of removing Totem?
[08:53] <cronoh> w00t
[08:53] <ompaul> n00bster, short night
[08:54] <wickedpuppy> mpeg playback ?
[08:54] <n00bster> :} heh
[08:54] <Travis|H> how do I install an icon theme in ubuntu ... i download these icons in a set called nuoveXT .. has an index.theme file, but the theme preferences application won't install it
[08:54] <wickedpuppy> whats playback ? play i know ... not playback ... reverse ?
[08:54] <necho> hioo
[08:54] <n00bster> well i fixed screen resolution. got 1280x1024 now..
[08:54] <kumakun> Well..you know..when you get, say a movie trailer, and it plays inbrowser for you..
[08:55] <thoreauputic> Travis|H: normally you just drag the compressed tarball to the theme dialogue
[08:55] <kumakun> Well, it's defaulting to Totem, and totem isn't working...but Xine will play the file type...so I need to know how to make xine my default browser plugin.
[08:55] <thoreauputic> Travis|H: or extract it in ~/.icons IIRC
[08:55] <wickedpuppy> kumakun, what is the file type ?
[08:55] <wickedpuppy> mpg ?
[08:56] <kumakun> Yes.
[08:56] <gvrocha> atha: it did work. thanks... but I did the same thing in a remote computer and I don't seem to be able to access it...
[08:56] <n00bster> since updated ubuntu, it somehow changed it lovely desktop wallpaper, you send me the old one?
[08:56] <wickedpuppy> now i am pretty sure there is plugin for totem to play mpg ...
[08:56] <Travis|H> thorea: there it was ... i tried extracting and dragging the folder .. then the .index
[08:56] <wickedpuppy> google it ?
[08:56] <Travis|H> guess leaving it tared up was the trick
[08:56] <Travis|H> thanks man
[08:56] <kumakun> Haven't tried that yet...
[08:56] <iiiears> exit
[08:57] <thoreauputic> Travis|H: no worries :)
[08:57] <kumakun> I was hoping it was in the repositories somewhere so I could just aptget it..
[08:57] <selinium> kumakun, to use in browser movie/mp3 you need mplayer
[08:57] <kumakun> I thought I downloaded that..
[08:58] <selinium> kumakun, and the mozilla-mplayer plugin   sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[08:58] <iiiears> Hello thoreauputic!
[08:58] <thoreauputic> hi iiiears :)
[08:59] <atha> gvrocha: check /var/log/apache2/error.log - it's the error log for apache
[08:59] <iiiears> Do you have a link to the jre.deb?
[08:59] <kumakun> standby.
[08:59] <thoreauputic> iiiears: hmm - it keeps changing lately...
[08:59] <gvrocha> atha: it seems fine: [Sun Sep 25 07:35:09 2005]  [notice]  Apache/2.0.53 (Ubuntu) configured -- resuming normal operations
[08:59] <gvrocha> [Thu Sep 29 23:48:56 2005]  [notice]  caught SIGTERM, shutting down
[08:59] <gvrocha> [Thu Sep 29 23:50:26 2005]  [notice]  Apache/2.0.53 (Ubuntu) configured -- resuming normal operations
[08:59] <iiiears> thoreauputic youare awesome - wouldn't of tried linux without your help.
[09:00] <gvrocha> atha: i've ps -e the remote computer and apache is up and running
[09:00] <thoreauputic> iiiears: heh- thanks - glad you tried it anyway ;)
[09:00] <nalioth> iiiears: you're a linux natural
[09:00] <gvrocha> atha: in the remote computer, netstat -plont gives me: tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:80              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN     7244/apache2        off (0.00/0/0)
[09:00] <gvrocha> t
[09:00] <kumakun> Hm...seems the packages are broken...
[09:01] <sobersabre> guys i want to setup frame buffer. intelfb. where can i read about ubuntu data on this ?
[09:01] <selinium> kumakun, is that aimed at me? :)
[09:01] <dooglus> vitriol: you shouldn't use single quotes around $PATH or the $ won't do its magic
[09:01] <kumakun> selinium: Yes, sorry.
[09:02] <gvrocha> atha: can you try http://gvrocha.homedns.org/ and see if you can access my webpage from wherever you are?
[09:02] <dooglus> where are old packages archived?
[09:02] <kumakun> selinium: It appears to be a question of my having switched to the breezy main repository last night to start getting updates. I think it's working now...certainly farther along than it had been.
[09:02] <selinium> kumakun, Breezy?
[09:03] <atha> gvrocha: doesn't seem to work from here - sorry but i have to go now
[09:03] <thoreauputic> dooglus: on the web or locally, do you mean?
[09:03] <selinium> kumakun, Do sorry, didn't read last post!
[09:04] <dooglus> thoreauputic: either.  I need to find libgtk2.0-0 version 2.8.4-0ubuntu1
[09:04] <dooglus> thoreauputic: (with source too, if possible)
[09:04] <selinium> kumakun, not breezy64?
[09:04] <kumakun> selinium: No, i386
[09:04] <thoreauputic> dooglus: looked in /var/cache/apt/archives ? (I mean if you already have it)
[09:04] <dooglus> thoreauputic: unfortunately only version 2.8.4-0ubuntu2 is in there
[09:04] <kumakun> selinium: It seems to be coming along nicely from the hoary repositories.
[09:05] <thoreauputic> ah
[09:05] <dooglus> thoreauputic: is there no archive online?
[09:05] <gvrocha> what could cause apache2 to be able to display http://localhost/index.html but not display http://mydnsdomainname/index/html??? Any tips?
[09:05] <thoreauputic> dooglus: I would assume there is - have you tried packages.ubuntu.com ?
[09:05] <dooglus> thoreauputic: that's an idea
[09:05] <dooglus> thanks
[09:06] <selinium> kumakun, I dont have any experience with breezy, i am holding out unil the official release. I have too much work on at the mo!  :)
[09:07] <dooglus> thoreauputic: it seems that packages.u.c only has the current version for each of the beasts
[09:07] <kumakun> selinium: That's fine. I was just eager to try it. Will the mozilla update require me to restart the browser?
[09:07] <thoreauputic> dooglus: :(
[09:07] <selinium> kumakun, i would of thought so, yes
[09:07] <dooglus> thoreauputic: do you have it in your /var/cache/apt/archives?
[09:08] <thoreauputic> dooglus: hang on
[09:08] <kumakun> selinium: Well, we'll give thata  go, then.
[09:08] <dooglus> ls -l /var/cache/apt/archives/libgtk2.0-0_2.8.4-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[09:08] <gvrocha> what could cause apache2 to be able to display http://localhost/index.html but not display http://mydnsdomainname/index/html??? Any tips?
[09:08] <selinium> kumakun, Sorry, i could not help further.
[09:09] <dooglus> gvrocha: the last /, between index and html?
[09:09] <gvrocha> dooglus: ok other than that...
[09:10] <gvrocha> what could cause apache2 to be able to display http://localhost/index.html but not display http://mydnsdomainname/index.html??? Any tips?
[09:10] <dooglus> gvrocha: your firewall
[09:10] <gvrocha> dooglus: how can I check that?
[09:10] <thoreauputic> dooglus: sorry - no luck
[09:10] <dooglus> gvrocha: apache only listening for local connections
[09:10] <kumakun> selinium: you may still can. It's trying to open with totem. can I get that to open with xine?
[09:10] <dooglus> anyone?  does anyone have a file /var/cache/apt/archives/libgtk2.0-0_2.8.4-0ubuntu1_i386.deb please?
[09:10] <gvrocha> dooglus: how do I find whether this is what's happening
[09:11] <dooglus> gvrocha: run "sudo iptables -L | wc -l" - what do you see?
[09:11] <gvrocha> I see 8
[09:11] <gvrocha> dooglus: I see 8
[09:11] <dooglus> ooh.  I see 9.  It's almost certain you don't have the firewall enabled.
[09:12] <benplaut> kicker is the only good part of KDE... but even it could be a whole lot better
[09:12] <benplaut> okey, i'm back on gnome:)
[09:12] <gvrocha> dooglus: does this mean the firewall is not causing the trouble?
[09:12] <dooglus> gvrocha: I reckon so.
[09:12] <dooglus> gvrocha: what do you see from "netstat -plt"?
[09:12] <dooglus> (don't paste if it's more than 2 lines)
[09:14] <gvrocha> dooglus: the line that has apache in it shows: tcp        0      0 *:www                   *:*                     LISTEN     6915/apache2
[09:14] <dooglus> hmm.  so it's listening to all addresses (the * in front of :www tells you that)
[09:14] <selinium> ku
[09:14] <dooglus> gvrocha: your router isn't allowing incoming connections on port 80 to get to your PC.  that's a possibility
[09:15] <selinium> kumakun, sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[09:15] <gvrocha> dooglus: any way to test that? they used to work in the past...
[09:15] <kumakun> standby.
[09:15] <dooglus> gvrocha: what's your external IP address?
[09:16] <gvrocha> From ifconfig I get 68.127.139.104 for eth0 (that's my DSL connection)
[09:16] <dooglus> gvrocha: is apache on the box you're IRCing from?
[09:16] <kumakun> selinium: complains of unmet dependencies.
[09:16] <gvrocha> doglus: yep
[09:17] <dooglus> Hello World!!!
[09:17] <selinium> kumakun, use synaptic, and see what it says.
[09:17] <gvrocha> dooglus: so you got it?
[09:17] <dooglus> gvrocha: I can see your index.html fine...
[09:17] <gvrocha> dooglus: cool
[09:17] <kumakun> selinium: it only gave me 3. let me try and get those..
[09:17] <dooglus> gvrocha: so maybe the problem is with DNS.
[09:17] <dooglus> http://68.127.139.104/ worked for me
[09:18] <gvrocha> dooglus: would you mind trying another address?
[09:18] <dooglus> gvrocha: sure
[09:18] <dooglus> gvrocha: pm me if you like
[09:20] <shad0w1e> anyone know why "nvidia" driver wont work once I updated to "breezy" (only "nv" works now)
[09:20] <n00bster> can somone plz post (or send to me ) the ubuntu Desktop Wallpaper ?
[09:20] <selinium> gvrocha, When did you set up the dns? it takes some time to populate through all the name seervers
[09:20] <nalioth> n00bster: its in your synaptic under "ubuntu-calendar"
[09:21] <gn0me> Hey there.. I was just wondering if anyone here's been able to get a dual monitor set up going with a Radeon card (TV-out).  Both are displaying a picture, but I've tried following a few HOWTOs for nVidia to do it, but it seems they don't want to work the same for an ATI card.  Basically the second display is only showing part of the desktop (if I was to change res on main display to a smaller res.. basically that effect).
[09:21] <gvrocha> dooglus: 128.32.81.123/
[09:21] <n00bster> ok, i'll look for it there. ty
[09:21] <gvrocha> dooglus: i hed to reboot about half an hour ago. But I sould ssh to the dns just fine...
[09:22] <n00bster> and, if i'll mark them it will copy them into my drive ?
[09:23] <SGershon> Hi. Me back again.
[09:23] <SGershon> I am downloading the install CD for Breezy. What I need is an Ubuntu system that comes with the drivers added from kernel 2.6.12-9.18 . How can I be sure  the iso found in http://releases.ubuntu.com/5.10/ have this kernel or newer?
[09:23] <kumakun> selinium: Seems I opened up a pandora's box here..it's removing quite a few things that *I* would think are system critical..
[09:23] <n00bster> it' did not :(
[09:23] <nalioth> n00bster: synaptic is pretty self explanatory
[09:23] <nalioth> ubotu: tell n00bster about synaptic
[09:24] <selinium> kumakun, like i saidm i am no breezy expert! let me know how you get on, i have this to look forward to!
[09:24] <n00bster> i tray to read yesterday about sunaptic, but lost myself there ..
[09:25] <kumakun> selinium: No no, it's cool. By the time YOU do this the thing'll be stable...hopefully. I may just crash the installation and redo it. Might be easier that way.
[09:25] <dooglus> gvrocha: 128.32.81.123 seems to be down - getting nothing back from it
[09:25] <SGershon> Regarding my uqestion? Is this something obvious? That the release available to download has at least kernel 2.6.12-9.18 ?
[09:26] <Travis|H> Is there a way to change the color of the Clearlooks theme?
[09:26] <SGershon> I am asking, because as this is all beta and on-development, there may be things they don't make available.
[09:27] <dooglus> SGershon: what is that .18 on the end?
[09:28] <n00bster> can't somone just send me the wallpaper file  - ? whay do i need to lern stuff just to get a file ?
[09:28] <nalioth> n00bster: the file is 2 clicks away
[09:28] <SGershon> dooglus, you asking me? hahaha.
[09:28] <SGershon> I found it here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=374373&postcount=48
[09:28] <nalioth> n00bster: if you dont learn apt-get or synaptic or aptitude, you will soon be in a world of pain
[09:29] <n00bster> so can you just tell me wats the path ?
[09:29] <dooglus> SGershon: you seem to be insistant that you want at least that version.  does the 18 mean anything?
[09:29] <n00bster> look, i just wanted the file, not to lern rocket sience (wich it's like that for a n00b)
[09:30] <dooglus> whay oh what.  lerning sux dood
[09:31] <MadpilotPPC> n00bster, Synaptic is pretty much the core of adding stuff to Ubuntu, you're going to have to learn it sooner or later...
[09:31] <sobersabre> what program shall i use to read chm files stably under ubuntu ?
[09:31] <dvsdude> hey all
[09:31] <bjv> wait he wont learn Synaptic?
[09:31] <nalioth> sobersabre: xchm, kchm
[09:31] <SGershon> thanks for your help dooglus.
[09:31] <SGershon> I found in ubuntuforums, that from kernel 2.6.12-9.18 (i don't know what is the 18 for) ubuntu supports drivers for my network adapter. That's why I insist on at least this kernel version. But maybe the .18 is not important.
[09:31] <SGershon> I'm not so deep in all this ting, so you probably knows better than me.
[09:31] <bjv> i thought he was compaining about apt-get. :\
[09:31] <dooglus> SGershon: the 'colony 5' image has this on it: /media/iso/pool/main/l/linux-meta/linux-image-386_2.6.12.15_i386.deb
[09:32] <kumakun> think i may just sit this one out and try to  update from the hoary repos. it seems to be wiping the majority of my packages.
[09:32] <SGershon> dooglus, Seems nice. This is a package that I can install over Warty?
[09:32] <sobersabre> nalioth,  I am accessing xchm homepage... what is stabler/better
[09:33] <dooglus> SGershon: I would suggest you just upgrade to breezy.
[09:33] <BurgerMann> I have a problem with my SSH server.. it keeps resetting my connection while I'm working. It seems like it when I connect twice from same computer, with same user.
[09:33] <dooglus> SGershon: if colony 5 doesn't have a new enough kernel, you can update the kernel using the online repositories anyway
[09:33] <SGershon> I see. thanks, it seems easier just to install the whole Breezy.
[09:34] <nalioth> sobersabre: xchm is desktop agnostic, kchm uses kde hooks. i find either one works well
[09:34] <SGershon> Because I can't update directly from ubutu until he recognizes my network device.
[09:34] <sobersabre> thanks for the feedback
[09:34] <dooglus> SGershon: good point :)
[09:34] <sobersabre> found xchm in apt repositories.
[09:34] <BurgerMann> I think i found my problem...
[09:35] <SGershon> Ok. So I hope that this release has the right kernel version with the right drivers...  34% downloaded meanwhile.
[09:35] <kumakun> Any one know what lbus-1 is and why it would be removing a slew of packages from my system when I try to install it?
[09:36] <dooglus> SGershon: you can download a newer kernel using a different box and copy the .deb file over if you need to.
[09:36] <gvrocha> Is there any reason why I'd be able to ssh an ip but not be able to see a webpage hosted in the same computer once it is running apache2?
[09:36] <SGershon> A-ha! dooglus, where are the kernel repositories? I tried in ubuntu's page, but they're not there.
[09:37] <dooglus> SGershon: the kernel is in 'main', along with lots of other stuff.
[09:37] <tomaj> whats a good program to burn aac file with?
[09:37] <dooglus> why didn't that last line with my name in go yellow?
[09:37] <SGershon> main?
[09:37] <tomaj> or to set up so you can burn aac files with
[09:37] <nalioth> tomaj: i'm not aware of the ability to create aac files in linux ( i may be wrong)
[09:38] <tomaj> aac = m4a
[09:38] <tomaj> you cant create the nalioth i want to burn them as an audio cd
[09:38] <gvrocha> Is there any reason why I'd be able to ssh an ip but not be able to see a webpage hosted in the same computer once it is running apache2?
[09:38] <nalioth> tomaj: mplayer, libfaad libfaac gstreamer0.8-faac gstreamer0.8-faad may help you
[09:39] <SGershon> dooglus, where is "main"?
[09:39] <tomaj> i have all of them, just dont know which program to use to burn them with nalioth
[09:40] <dooglus> SGershon: you can find the most recent breezy kernel here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/base/linux-image-2.6.12-9-386
[09:41] <nalioth> tomaj: i'm not sure if k3b transforms aac to wav b4 burning
[09:41] <SGershon> htanks goodlus.
[09:42] <SGershon> (and i seems hard...)
[09:42] <gvrocha> Is there any reason why I'd be able to ssh an ip but not be able to see a webpage hosted in the same computer once it is running apache2?
[09:46] <fredforfaen> !e17
[09:46] <ubotu> I guess e17 is the next generation enlightenment http://www.enlightenment.org or http://www.rasterman.com, http://www.get-e.org or http://www.edevelop.org
[09:47] <tomaj> nalioth thanx ill check k3b
[09:48] <SGershon> If I am hiere, while I wait for the breezy download... can someone help me on this: my systems freezes on loading, with the message "starting hotplug subsystem".
[09:48] <SGershon> Why? How? Where?
[09:48] <SGershon> I bypass this pressing ctrl-c.
[09:48] <_pir> hey, I'm trting to compile the file commander "emelFM2", I have hoary , and I got this error after typing "sudo make"
[09:48] <SGershon> But it is weird.
[09:48] <_pir> generating 'objs/src/utils/cell-renderers/mg-popup-entry.deps'
[09:48] <_pir> /bin/sh: cc: command not found
[09:48] <_pir> make: *** [objs/src/utils/cell-renderers/mg-popup-entry.deps]  Error 127
[09:48] <kumakun> Here comes the stuff I lost...bizzare.
[09:49] <_pir> any body have a solution? what is error 127?
[09:49] <spockboy> _pir: i think you need to install gcc
[09:50] <burnboy> gah..using breezy but using fglrx drivers, the brightness is too high..i did fglrx_xgamma to .5 but brightness is still way up..how can i change it?
[09:50] <nalioth> pietrus: install "build-essential"
[09:50] <_pir> I have gcc 3.4 and gcc-3.4 base
[09:51] <nalioth> _pir: "build-essential" will give you everything you need to compile things
[09:53] <Canario> hola
[09:53] <hansi_xp> hola
[09:53] <fredforfaen> after my upgrade to breezy via apt , i cant get vmware to work , nor install it , it complaints about wrong gcc or something...i can get the error message if anyone could help me ....pla?
[09:53] <fredforfaen> *pls
[09:54] <spockboy> fredforfaen: show us the error message
[09:54] <fredforfaen> ok ill get it , hang on
[09:54] <_pir> nalioth:I have gcc-3.3 + base and also gcc-3.4 and base , Is this a problem with duplicating?
[09:55] <kumakun> Hmh..this has been an interesting night. hosed the install, reinstall synaptec, using it to reinstall the hosed bits from a not quite stable future release...
[09:55] <chavo> fredforfaen, the kernel was built with gcc-3.4 and breezy ships with 4.0, so you need to get 3.4 to build the vmware module
[09:55] <adamson> hi........
[09:56] <fredforfaen> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2652 chavo spockboy
[09:56] <fredforfaen> chavo do i need the pasth then or ?
[09:57] <fredforfaen> sorry
[09:57] <fredforfaen> my spelling sucks
[09:57] <chavo> fredforfaen, apt-get install gcc-3.4
[09:57] <StarKruzr> chavo: if one does that, how does one specify which version to use when compiling something?
[09:57] <chavo> then export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4, before runnig vmware installer
[09:57] <fredforfaen> chavo thanx ill try that
[09:57] <StarKruzr> ah.  does that answer my question?  :)
[09:58] <goodlust> yup!  :)
[09:58] <chavo> StarKruzr, yes
[09:58] <StarKruzr> and can the same thing be done with GCC 2.95?
[09:58] <chavo> or change the symlink
[09:58] <adamson> hi..........can u b my friend
[09:58] <fredforfaen> chavo didnt work :(
[09:58] <chavo> but env variable is easiest
[09:59] <StarKruzr> chavo: I imagine that the next time I open a terminal window it will be reset to 4.0?
[09:59] <chavo> StarKruzr, yes as /usr/bin/gcc is a link to gcc-4.0
[09:59] <chavo> in breezy
[09:59] <StarKruzr> fantastico.  thanks.
[10:00] <chavo> no problem
[10:00] <StarKruzr> also, out of random curiosity, why can I not su to root?
[10:00] <adamson> hillo.......
[10:00] <chavo> fredforfaen, waht happened?
[10:00] <god-zero> StarKruzr: export sets the variable till reset by another export or reboot
[10:00] <goodlust> is there any way of telling apt-get that I like my current version of libgtk and that I don't want it updated, but to go ahead with other updates?
[10:00] <StarKruzr> god-zero: gotcha.
[10:00] <goodlust> StarKruzr: you could if you knew the root password.
[10:00] <fredforfaen> chavo the same error as before
[10:00] <god-zero> sudo -i  == su root
[10:00] <goodlust> StarKruzr: at the moment the root password doesn't exist
[10:00] <StarKruzr> goodlust: su then my root password hates me... oh.
[10:00] <StarKruzr> ... what?
[10:01] <adamson> can u be my friend
[10:01] <ilangut> hey... im a newbee with a breezy prob. after re-installation my System-->Admin-->boot menu has vanished. any ideas?
[10:01] <goodlust> StarKruzr: use "sudo -s" if you want a root shell
[10:01] <vikash> hi
[10:01] <chavo> fredforfaen, you did -> export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 ?
[10:01] <goodlust> StarKruzr: are you sure you have a root password?
[10:01] <chavo> before running
[10:01] <fredforfaen> chavo yep
[10:01] <StarKruzr> goodlust: didn't the installer ask me to set one?
[10:01] <fredforfaen> twize :)
[10:01] <god-zero> sudo -i will act just like su root
[10:01] <goodlust> StarKruzr: no.  it asked you to set your own password for your user account only.
[10:01] <StarKruzr> ... can I just do sudo passwd root to do that?
[10:01] <MadpilotPPC> !root
[10:01] <goodlust> StarKruzr: the root password is locked (as in 'passwd -l') by default
[10:01] <ubotu> [root]  disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[10:01] <dazvid> StarKruzr: su doesnt work in ubuntu, use sudo before your root commands instead
[10:02] <dazvid> and just use your user pw
[10:02] <MadpilotPPC> StarKruzr, see ubotu's post above ^^^
[10:02] <goodlust> StarKruzr: "sudo passwd" will set the root password, yes
[10:02] <vikash> hi
[10:02] <kemik> StarKruzr:  you should use "sudo -i"
[10:02] <goodlust> kemik: why?
[10:02] <kemik> because it sets all variables
[10:03] <StarKruzr> ah.
[10:03] <goodlust> kemik: what if I don't want them set?  what if I like them the way they are?
[10:03] <_pir> nalioth: ok I got "build-essential" and It was compiled but in the end I got cupple of errors lines.. like
[10:03] <_pir> src/utils/cell-renderers/mg-cell-renderer-popup.c:143: error: `e2_marshal_VOID__ STRING_INT_INT_INT_INT' undeclared (first use in this function)
[10:03] <kemik> goodlust:  suite yourself then
[10:03] <nalioth> _pir: you've gotten some shoddy code
[10:04] <chavo> fredforfaen, hold on a sec
[10:04] <fredforfaen> chavo ok thanx
[10:04] <ilangut> hey can anyone help a nobee with a breezy prob?
[10:04] <kemik> picasso:  you may be missing some libs that declare those ...
[10:04] <kemik> _pir:  even
[10:04] <goodlust> nobee, sure
[10:04] <StarKruzr> is this approach used by any other distros?
[10:05] <ilangut> cool, thanx goodlust
[10:05] <_pir> nalioth: do i need gcc-3.3 and gcc-3.4 ?
[10:05] <kemik> StarKruzr:  dont know, but you can use sudo on most systems if you like
[10:05] <nalioth> _pir: thought you said you had them installed
[10:05] <StarKruzr> I am familiar with sudo, but not with this concept of not having an interactive root user'
[10:05] <chavo> fredforfaen, sorry man, I forgot a step -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60763
[10:06] <goodlust> StarKruzr: I think it's to help people remember they're root.
[10:06] <StarKruzr> hmm.
[10:06] <goodlust> the idea is you type "sudo" each time you want privs.
[10:06] <StarKruzr> fair enough
[10:06] <chavo> read that and follow the directions, that got vmware running here
[10:06] <StarKruzr> right.
[10:06] <kemik> it's to not abuse the root account
[10:06] <_pir> I have those pkgs in addition to "gcc"  can I remove them? or only ver 3.4..?
[10:06] <StarKruzr> prevents you from staying in root carelessly, among other things
[10:06] <goodlust> in practice people just set a root password, or get root shell with sudo -s of course
[10:06] <kemik> goodlust:  where sudo -i is the better alternative :P
[10:06] <Sionide> wtf :S
[10:06] <nalioth> _pir: you can leave them
[10:06] <Sionide> why does moz cal die when i try print out something from it? :s
[10:07] <ilangut> well here's my prob.  ever since i re-installed breezy i lost my system-->admin-->boot menu that i used to control grub
[10:07] <goodlust> kemik: maybe
[10:07] <StarKruzr> ilangut: is this after you upgraded your kernel?
[10:07] <ilangut> does anyone have an idea how to bring it back :)
[10:07] <_pir> nalioth: ok,, now how do I uninstall / remove this try ?
[10:07] <StarKruzr> because the same thing happened to me.
[10:08] <StarKruzr> someone decided boot-admin or whatever it's called was broken, even though it isn't.
[10:08] <StarKruzr> so they took it out.
[10:08] <gosub> ilangut: edit the grub conf file instead ...
[10:08] <ilangut> hmmm yep
[10:08] <StarKruzr> gosub: is there a man page for that?
[10:08] <nalioth> _pir: remove what?
[10:08] <goodlust> kemik: what if I don't want them set?  what if I like them the way they are?
[10:09] <goodlust> oops
[10:09] <kemik> why would you ? and the average user most likely will like them
[10:09] <StarKruzr> because I had to hunt around for an example grub conf file until I found something that sort of matched my configuration, then poke at it until it worked properly.
[10:09] <StarKruzr> and the next time it does a kernel upgrade, it's going to hose my grub conf again.
[10:09] <kemik> goodlust:  the var's ARE set, but to the old user, instead of the root account.. so it's really not good to use -s
[10:10] <_pir> nalioth: I all those "compiling...." lines... some thing was installed? some files were copied?
[10:10] <_pir> In all....
[10:10] <god-zero> The whole no root account thing frustrated me for the first wey weeks or so, then you realize that you don't use it as much as you think. When I do want a interactive root shell I just "sudo -i", but that's not too often
[10:10] <AcidPils> good morning
[10:10] <nalioth> _pir: were the last lines with "errors" and "stop"
[10:10] <kemik> i seldom use sudo -i
[10:10] <StarKruzr> god-zero: Yeah, I guess you can get around it
[10:10] <fredforfaen> chavo still no luck with vmware
[10:10] <kemik> the root privileges are not needed very often
[10:11] <Carpe_Libertatem> When I try sudo apt-get upgrade, I get "E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporari ly unavailable) E: Unable to lock the download directory"
[10:11] <chavo> fredforfaen, did you see the page I pasted?
[10:11] <fredforfaen> yeo , the any any update
[10:11] <MadpilotPPC> Carpe_Libertatem, do you also have Synpatic open?
[10:11] <kemik> Carpe_Libertatem: running synaptic/aptitude ?
[10:11] <AcidPils> can anyone tell me how to get gdm to exec my .xsessionrc when using enlightenment?
[10:11] <fredforfaen> yep*
[10:11] <StarKruzr> what the crap did I do to myself
[10:11] <nalioth> Carpe_Libertatem: only one apt can be open at a time
[10:11] <Carpe_Libertatem> keikoz, Not that I can see.
[10:11] <alisher> Carpe: Update Manager
[10:11] <chavo> fredforfaen, hmm, well I'm not sure what's going on.
[10:11] <kemik> Carpe_Libertatem:  do a "ps aux | grep apt"
[10:11] <ilangut> hey... sorry i didn't reply to my own thread... just got informed that my brother totaled the family car
[10:12] <StarKruzr> is he ok?
[10:12] <chavo> although the 5.5 beta installed fine for me
[10:12] <chavo> it runs real slow though
[10:12] <Carpe_Libertatem> kemik, k, what am I looking for?
[10:12] <kemik> Carpe_Libertatem:  if you see aptitide/synaptic running
[10:12] <chavo> got a mail from vmware today, 5.5 RC1 is out
[10:12] <goodlust> is there any way of telling apt-get that I like my current version of libgtk and that I don't want it updated, but to go ahead with other updates?
[10:12] <_pir> nalioth: I want to try another ver of code, do I need to remove some files from /usr/bin... before I start again..?
[10:12] <Carpe_Libertatem> kemik, I see a "root      6968  0.4  1.5  11728  9836 ?        SN   03:08   0:00 apt-get -qq -d dist-upgrade
[10:13] <Carpe_Libertatem> "
[10:13] <Carpe_Libertatem> er
[10:13] <kemik> goodlust:  that should be doable, but easier in synaptic
[10:13] <Carpe_Libertatem> I guess it's running :-P
[10:13] <kemik> goodlust:  read the apt-get manpage
[10:13] <AcidPils> goodlust: http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html
[10:13] <god-zero> StarKruzr: Did you have any dreams with aliens in them last night?
[10:13] <fredforfaen> chavo hmm.....i run the any any update and set CC0/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 but still it looks at /usr/bin/gcc
[10:13] <fredforfaen> CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4*
[10:13] <goodlust> kemik: I don't think there's anything about it there, is there?
[10:13] <chavo> fredforfaen, that's odd
[10:13] <Carpe_Libertatem> hmm
[10:14] <StarKruzr> god-zero: not that I can recall.  I do remember my cat cackling madly and gleefully meowing about the end of the world, though
[10:14] <kemik> goodlust:  follow AcidPils link, it'll teach you howto in apt
[10:14] <AcidPils> goodlust: just look for pinning, should be in the manpge too (or see the link above)
[10:14] <fredforfaen> chavo yeah tell me about it...but how do i solve this problem....is something broken on my system?
[10:14] <StarKruzr> hey, we're getting NFSv4!  w00t for atomic file operations!
[10:14] <AcidPils> noone an idee how to get .xsession working?
[10:15] <chavo> fredforfaen, do this -> echo $CC
[10:15] <_pir> nalioth: I also saw the in emelFM2's web site that I need   {shell commands - file, find >= 4.2, grep, sed}  I checked with synaptic , and I have "findutils" ver 4.1...
[10:15] <chavo> what's in there?
[10:15] <AcidPils> germanenglish... i should get more coffee
[10:15] <StarKruzr> would help if I knew what .xsession was :)
[10:15] <kemik> Carpe_Libertatem:  yes, it's running.. you'll have to wait for it to finish
[10:15] <fredforfaen> chavo it gives me the right path :/
[10:15] <nalioth> _pir: what EXACTLY are you wanting to use
[10:16] <_pir> nalioth: it' the latest ver in hoary...
[10:16] <AcidPils> StarKruzr: a file in the home where you could define what applications to start
[10:16] <chavo> fredforfaen, well try changing the symlink from 4.0 to 3.4 then
[10:16] <nalioth> _pir: the program name, please?
[10:16] <AcidPils> it works when i use the system standard session in gdm but not with enlightenment
[10:16] <StarKruzr> AcidPils, like an equivalent of Windows' StartUp folder?
[10:16] <chavo> god-zero, welcome to the 21st century man!
[10:16] <AcidPils> yes
[10:16] <StarKruzr> I see
[10:17] <fredforfaen> chavo how do i do that?
[10:17] <StarKruzr> that does sound handy.
[10:17] <StarKruzr> I could use that myself, actually
[10:17] <_pir> nalioth: http://emelfm2.org
[10:17] <_pir> http://emelfm2.org/rel/emelfm2-0.1.2.tar.gz
[10:17] <StarKruzr> ooo
[10:17] <StarKruzr> bzImage is on IPv6
[10:17] <StarKruzr> shy
[10:17] <StarKruzr> er, shiny
[10:17] <bzimage> StarKruzr, yes.. need to keep up
[10:17] <bzimage> :)
[10:17] <chavo> fredforfaen, sudo rm /usr/bin/gcc, then sudo ln -s /usr/bin/gcc-3.4 /usr/bin/gcc
[10:17] <_pir> nalioth: it's a file commander for linux
[10:18] <bzimage> ipv4 is so not 2005+
[10:18] <chavo> then reverse it to change it back
[10:18] <bzimage> :P
[10:18] <StarKruzr> SUPPOSEDLY my school runs on IPv6 but I've never seen any practical benefits
[10:18] <bzimage> well for the end user it doesn't make a difference
[10:18] <bzimage> it's for de admins..
[10:18] <bzimage> :)
[10:18] <nalioth> _pir: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutoApt
[10:19] <fredforfaen> chavo that worked!but now theres a new problem..:(
[10:19] <chavo> uh oh
[10:20] <fredforfaen> look at this http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2653 chavo
[10:21] <Carpe_Libertatem> In one Linux distro I used, when you went to reboot, you could pick which OS would boot-up on reboot, is there a way to do that on Ubuntu?
[10:22] <_pir> nalioth: ok , I'll check this, thanks,,, now , Do I need to clean some thing from the system, after all the mess that I did .. (all the system's work in the make command)?
[10:22] <goodlust> thanks.  pinning was indeed what I needed.  had to put Package: libgtk2.0-0\nPin: version 2.8.3-0ubuntu1\nPin-Priority: 1001\n in /etc/apt/preferences
[10:23] <nalioth> _pir: you should just be able to remove the directory you were working with
[10:23] <MadpilotPPC> Carpe_Libertatem, OS or Window Manger (Gnome, KDE, etc)? You can do either, or both
[10:23] <_pir> nalioth: and nothing from /usr... /etc... ?
[10:23] <StarKruzr> Carpe: it sounds like you're talking about GRUB's boot menu
[10:23] <Carpe_Libertatem> No
[10:24] <fredforfaen> chavo how do i set gcc back to how its ?supposed? to be?
[10:24] <dooglus> is there a CVS repository will all the ubuntu package source in it?
[10:24] <Carpe_Libertatem> OS - for example, I had the option in Linux, to reboot, and boot-up into Windows while in the Linux GUI
[10:24] <nalioth> _pir: did you install anything?
[10:24] <alisher> Ubuntu has it, GRUB
[10:24] <chavo> fredforfaen, sudo rm /usr/bin/gcc -> sudo ln -s /usr/bin/gcc-4.0 /usr/bin/gcc
[10:24] <chavo> fredforfaen, looks like you have to install g++-3.4 also
[10:25] <_pir> nalioth: no , just "sudo make"  and " sudo make install "
[10:25] <alisher> Carpe_Libertatem: you normally can choose in the GRUB menu which OS to boot
[10:25] <chavo> but I can't help anymore, gotta try to get some sleep, it's 4:30 am here
[10:25] <alisher> when you, sure, have installed it
[10:25] <fredforfaen> chavo thanx , im gonna try again , thanx for all your help
[10:25] <nalioth> _pir: in the future, use checkinstall
[10:25] <chavo> no problem, good luck
[10:26] <Carpe_Libertatem> alisher, I know that, but sometimes when I reboot I walk away for a minute while it does the work :-P it was a nifty feature, not 100% needed, but nitfty
[10:26] <alisher> then the OS will boot, which you set as default for boot
[10:26] <_pir> nalioth: ok, I'll check that.. thanks.
[10:27] <alisher> you can set either Ubuntu or Windows to boot by default
[10:27] <fredforfaen> chavo that solved it man , thanx a million....!!!
[10:27] <Carpe_Libertatem> alisher, right, but in THIS Linux distro, It would give me the option PRIOR to rebooting to boot into OS of my choice, not simply default
[10:27] <alisher> I mean default for the case you walk away
[10:28] <MadpilotPPC> Carpe_Libertatem, you can set Grub up in various ways, I know...
[10:28] <alisher> you can also change the time, GRUB wates before booting
[10:28] <Carpe_Libertatem> alisher, I don't always want to reboot into default
[10:28] <alisher> I think it is normally 50 sec
[10:28] <alisher> change it to whatever, say 5 min, and it will not boot before you choose and click enter
[10:30] <Carpe_Libertatem> alisher, I know I can do that, not what I want to do. Thanks anyway.
[10:31] <p0windah> good to be back, hello boyos and girlos
[10:31] <alisher> Carpe_Libertatem, then I just dont get what you want
[10:32] <Carpe_Libertatem> Alisher, ok, in a Linux distro I used, I believe it was Mandrake, say I wanted to reboot - It would ask, for example "Would you like to ---- Reboot into Mandrake, Reboot into Redhat, Reboot into Windows, Log Out, Shut down"
[10:32] <alisher> Aha... never used Mandrake, but seems too user-friendly;)
[10:33] <p0windah> I've never seen that before, although I havent used mandrake in a long time
[10:33] <klo> hi
[10:33] <klo> exit
[10:33] <klo> quit
[10:33] <Carpe_Libertatem> Ubuntu is more user friendly than Mandrake, mostly.
[10:33] <scanwinder> i just got a pcmcia to usb card and, when ive got that and my wireless card in, it wont connect to the wireless access point but, when the usb card isnt in and its just the wireless card, it works fine
[10:33] <p0windah> Carpe_Libertatem: normally you get asked that sort of question when you "boot" the computer
[10:33] <Carpe_Libertatem> p0windah, I got asked on both
[10:33] <Carpe_Libertatem> :-)
[10:34] <p0windah> seems odd
[10:34] <p0windah> Carpe_Libertatem: you sure it wasnt asking which "window manager" you wanted to switch to ?
[10:35] <Carpe_Libertatem> p0windah, 100% sure
[10:35] <p0windah> got a link to a website or screenshot, I'm curious
[10:35] <kemik> Carpe_Libertatem:  did it boot into Windows if you said so ?
[10:35] <Carpe_Libertatem> kemik, yes
[10:35] <kemik> i dont know how it would save that information if you acutally rebooted the computer
[10:36] <kemik> guess its  a haxx :)
[10:36] <p0windah> grab haxoring
[10:36] <mathieudz> hi, is there a fixed release date for breezy? or is it 'somewhere in october'?
[10:36] <Carpe_Libertatem> p0windah, I don't.
[10:36] <kemik> mathieudz:  13
[10:36] <p0windah> Carpe_Libertatem: you remember which version of mandrake it was ?
[10:37] <Carpe_Libertatem> p0windah, I 8.x, 9.x
[10:37] <mathieudz> kemik: thanks, how could i have found that date myself?
[10:37] <Carpe_Libertatem> I think it was*
[10:37] <nalioth> mathieudz: wiki.ubuntu.com or www.ubuntulinux.org
[10:37] <god-zero> kemik: sounds like a perl script that greps grub.conf (or whatever) then writes it out with new default before reboot
[10:38] <p0windah> I tried to use the help in ubuntu last night, there is no search....
[10:38] <jsgotangco> p0windah, that's Yelp
[10:38] <kemik> god-zero:  mmh.. a ugly haxx! :)
[10:38] <kemik> mathieudz:  google is your friend
[10:39] <mathieudz> kemik: ok :)
[10:39] <mathieudz> nalioth: thanks
[10:41] <Scholar_Gypsy> hi, i am on a 1 GB per month internet scheeme. is there any application on Ubuntu that tracks my usage?
[10:41] <ccooke> Scholar_Gypsy: over multiple reboots?
[10:42] <Scholar_Gypsy> yes ccooke
[10:43] <ruby> bornboy
[10:43] <kemik> 1 GB, that's not much at all.... even worse than my 12 GB limit
[10:43] <p0windah> limits,... bleh
[10:43] <kemik> p0windah:  indeed
[10:44] <p0windah> I am blessed to be in a country that offers 1GIG home accounts
[10:44] <kemik> .nl ?
[10:44] <p0windah> hong kong
[10:44] <kemik> i got 10mbit here.. but with that limit it's kind of sux
[10:45] <kemik> peered-traffic is unlimitied tho.. so i got a proxy im using :)
[10:45] <p0windah> shared is not so good for gaming :)
[10:45] <god-zero> I don't think I can keep up with my mail at 1 gig a month
[10:45] <p0windah> I'm on a 10M account now, when my contract expires I'll be switching to 1GIG
[10:45] <Carpe_Libertatem> 1gb a month o_o
[10:46] <p0windah> kemik: I'm guessing you live in an area with low population density, yeah ?
[10:47] <alisher> p0windah, you are from HK?
[10:47] <xuniluser> What app is used to make an .iso from a cd?
[10:47] <p0windah> alisher: thats where I am now, yeah
[10:47] <DavidLeeRoth> WinIso if on win32
[10:48] <alisher> me too
[10:48] <p0windah> heh
[10:48] <mathieudz> dd on linux
[10:48] <kemik> p0windah:  yup. .. sweden has extremely low pop.density.. quite the opposite to hongkong
[10:48] <DavidLeeRoth> you can easily mount one
[10:48] <p0windah> alisher: I'm out TKO, at po lam
[10:48] <kemik> siberia, and northern canada and greenland beats us ;)
[10:48] <alisher> I am in Hunghom
[10:48] <p0windah> kemik: and the open sea...
[10:48] <kemik> heheh yes.. ;)
[10:49] <p0windah> alisher: ah, you are quite close then
[10:49] <p0windah> oops, I thought you meant hanghou
[10:49] <p0windah> but hong kong is small, so hunghum is still close I guess :)
[10:50] <alisher> yes not too far
[10:50] <wickedpuppy> hong kong is small ??? i am in singapore gentlemen
[10:50] <z|bandito> can openoffice.org write/read microsoft word files?
[10:50] <DavidLeeRoth> yeah
[10:51] <DavidLeeRoth> and it can convert
[10:51] <wickedpuppy> z|bandito, yes
[10:51] <wickedpuppy> z|bandito, why not try it yourself ??
[10:51] <z|bandito> thought so.. my friends are just stupid
[10:51] <z|bandito> i don't have an ubuntu box here atm
[10:51] <DavidLeeRoth> z|bandito, it also has limited PPT support in openoffice.orgs powerpoint apt
[10:51] <wickedpuppy> z|bandito, do you know openoffice can run on windows as well ??
[10:51] <z|bandito> excel too, right?
[10:51] <DavidLeeRoth> i am building a computer atm that will have linux full time on it
[10:51] <DavidLeeRoth> yes
[10:52] <RMeist> wickedpuppy: cygwin:P
[10:52] <DavidLeeRoth> but exporting, and reading are very limited
[10:52] <z|bandito> yes, i dont feel like downloading the mutiple hundreds of megabytes just to try it
[10:52] <z|bandito> i'm on osx btw =p
[10:52] <DavidLeeRoth> stick with trying to only read and export word processor files
[10:52] <DavidLeeRoth> z|bandito, www.shipit.ubuntu.com
[10:53] <z|bandito> they borrowed someone elses crappy windows pc to try and run word on windows cause they can't find the 'save as.. ' command
[10:53] <DavidLeeRoth> that will give you FREE ubuntu cd's with FREE shipping
[10:53] <z|bandito> anyway, thanks
[10:53] <z|bandito> i haeve the cd's
[10:53] <DavidLeeRoth> Ctrl+S lol
[10:53] <DavidLeeRoth> you should try YellowDog
[10:53] <wickedpuppy> z|bandito, i got no comment ... if i were you i get a live cd and shove it their a**
[10:53] <p0windah> has anyone received their hoary CD's in the mail btw ?
[10:53] <z|bandito> uh ok
[10:53] <DavidLeeRoth> yeah preferably knoppix its bites
[10:53] <Carpe_Libertatem> p0windah, I did about a week ago.
[10:53] <z|bandito> linux on mac hw is kind of silly
[10:53] <wickedpuppy> p0windah, yes ... people did get them
[10:54] <z|bandito> for workstation use anyway imo
[10:54] <DavidLeeRoth> I have had them for a month and now they are outdated!
[10:54] <p0windah> I got my warty ones, but hoary still hasnt come through
[10:54] <ompaul> p0windah, yes people have - it takes time
[10:54] <BlackLabel^> can someone help me out with a porb?
[10:54] <Carpe_Libertatem> p0windah, they came to me from The Netherlands o_o
[10:54] <BlackLabel^> prob*
[10:54] <alisher> p0windah, I got it from them
[10:54] <p0windah> alisher: how many you order ?
[10:54] <ompaul> !tell BlackLabel^ about ask
[10:54] <alisher> 3
[10:55] <DavidLeeRoth> I have a problem.  I updated my distro about a week ago.  When I reboot, I get a locale error about UTF-8 missing when i try to startx.
[10:55] <z|bandito> i also have given them an ubuntu box already, they aren't going to want me to force a live cd down the other computers throat, but thanks, wickedpuppy
[10:55] <alisher> if you need can give you some, I use breezy anyway
[10:55] <BlackLabel^> I put in my login and password and after some text about free software and that I have mail, just this: myname@myname:~ $
[10:55] <p0windah> no biggie, I'll wait for breezy I guess
[10:55] <Carpe_Libertatem> p0windah, are you on dial-up?
[10:55] <DavidLeeRoth> Did anyone else have a locale issue like me?
[10:55] <p0windah> Carpe_Libertatem: no, are you ?
[10:55] <DavidLeeRoth> now X won't work
[10:55] <Carpe_Libertatem> Nope.
[10:55] <BlackLabel^> it doesnt wooork
[10:55] <BlackLabel^> ye i know
[10:55] <BlackLabel^> :(
[10:55] <Carpe_Libertatem> I got the CDs to give to people who feel bad about using burns :-P
[10:56] <p0windah> alisher: I have a pile of warty CD's, so its ok
[10:56] <DavidLeeRoth> I still have access to bash of course and command line apps
[10:56] <DavidLeeRoth> alisher if you need can give you some, I use breezy anyway
[10:56] <DavidLeeRoth> BlackLabel^ I put in my login an
[10:56] <alisher> :)
[10:56] <ompaul> BlackLabel^, it actually working, the fact that it is not a graphic environment makes me think you may have an ati or nvidia card
[10:56] <wickedpuppy> DavidLeeRoth, pls read /etc/X11/x.org
[10:56] <StarKruzr> don't feel bad about using burns!  Just buy Ubuntu merch :D
[10:56] <z|bandito> ic carp
[10:56] <BlackLabel^> ye well
[10:56] <BlackLabel^> it should be working
[10:57] <BlackLabel^> i think i have a problem starting x automatically
[10:57] <z|bandito> some people might be afraid of a burn too
[10:57] <StarKruzr> I guess
[10:57] <p0windah> is there an ubuntu pin-badge ?
[10:57] <StarKruzr> though I can't imagine why
[10:57] <ompaul> BlackLabel^, let me be more specific, have you nvidia or ati?
[10:57] <BlackLabel^> wait
[10:57] <dhonn> fur ubuntu on ppc how do i simulate a right click on a 1-button mouse
[10:57] <StarKruzr> I just want a nice button-down
[10:58] <Carpe_Libertatem> Good question, dhonn
[10:58] <StarKruzr> bah, Cafepress
[10:58] <StarKruzr> nothing but cheap white cotton crap
[10:58] <Carpe_Libertatem> Cafepress sucks.
[10:58] <StarKruzr> it does that, yes.
[10:58] <ceee> hi. anyone noticed some problems with pam or pam_unix/ldap?  since some friend made an apt-get upgrade  my pam_ldap-Logins won't work anymore
[10:58] <p0windah> I dont want a t-shirt, although the prices arent too bad
[10:58] <bzimage> what is cafepress?
[10:58] <p0windah> considering some of the outrageous prices for shirts on thinkgeek
[10:58] <z|bandito> they might feel it's more likely to be backdoored or something
[10:58] <StarKruzr> I would still buy a $24 t-shirt even
[10:58] <Carpe_Libertatem> bzimage, go to the website
[10:58] <Carpe_Libertatem> =P
[10:58] <StarKruzr> it supports the project
[10:59] <StarKruzr> it's just that the shirts suck.
[10:59] <BlackLabel^> dhonn: PM
[10:59] <bzimage> you tell me!
[10:59] <benplaut> goodnight :)
[10:59] <bzimage> :)
[10:59] <gn0me> Anyone been able to get an extended desktop (across two monitors) with an ATI Radeon 9600XT? I can get the primary to work fine.. but the secondary is cloning instead of extending.  I want to be able to drag a window from one to the other and stuff. :-\
[10:59] <Carpe_Libertatem> There's alternatives to Cafepress
[10:59] <p0windah> gn0me: I didnt with an 9800
[10:59] <BlackLabel^> gn0me
[10:59] <idleCat> After I upgraded to breezy, I'm getting strange characters embedded in my gcc/g++ stderror. Example: invalid types int[int]  <--- the 
[10:59] <p0windah> I did _it_
[10:59] <Tuxist> hi i have a problem with vice
[10:59] <BlackLabel^> i know someone who could help you but not here
[10:59] <BlackLabel^> hehe
[10:59] <StarKruzr> simple rule for how to sell shirts to geeks: MAKE THEM BLACK
[11:00] <gn0me> I like blue.
[11:00] <StarKruzr> Carpe: such as?
[11:00] <ompaul> StarKruzr, no, grey
[11:00] <BlackLabel^> i like pink.
[11:00] <p0windah> I prefer beige
[11:00] <idleCat> any ideas ?
[11:00] <DavidLeeRoth> gn0me, I am thinking about getting a 9600xt sapphire 256 meg 128 bit interface. Is that a good GPU? btw, interface= agp
[11:00] <Tuxist> *** glibc detected *** realloc(): invalid next size: 0x0000000000abaf40 ***
[11:00] <Tuxist> Abgebrochen
[11:00] <wickedpuppy> Tuxist, we all got problem with vice
[11:00] <StarKruzr> heh
[11:00] <ompaul> StarKruzr, complex rule, let the customer choose their colour
[11:00] <p0windah> heh
[11:00] <gn0me> p0windah: Did you use the xinerama or the radeon options?
[11:00] <StarKruzr> ompaul: HORRORS!  </sarcasm>
[11:00] <StarKruzr> Tuxist: are you talking about AFS?
[11:00] <DavidLeeRoth> gn0me, I am thinking about getting a 9600xt sapphire 256 meg 128 bit interface. Is that a good GPU? btw, interface= agp
[11:01] <ompaul> p0windah, more like a sinker :)
[11:01] <gn0me> DavidLeeRoth: I'd suggest an nVidia perhaps over an ATI.
[11:01] <StarKruzr> hm
[11:01] <Carpe_Libertatem> StarKruzr, I forgot them all =P
[11:01] <DavidLeeRoth> And, is there good support for you card?
[11:01] <Tuxist> no kopete
[11:01] <p0windah> gn0me: no, oddly enough I didnt
[11:01] <StarKruzr> I wonder if AFS is in universe
[11:01] <Morrowyn> morning
[11:01] <gn0me> DavidLeeRoth: But the 9600XT has never done me wrong in Windows.
[11:01] <p0windah> gn0me: wish I still had that machine so I could give you my config; but from memory none of the ubuntuforum/guides helped me
[11:01] <gn0me> Just linux troubles.
[11:01] <StarKruzr> having direct mount access to my AFS shares would be handy
[11:02] <Carpe_Libertatem> http://www.t-shirts.com/ , http://artapart.com/ , http://coshops.com/retail/index.asp
[11:02] <BlackLabel^> so noone knows how to solve my: "I put in my login and password and after some text about free software and that I have mail, just this: myname@myname:~ $" problem? i didnt find the XFree86.0.log file nor did i find anything in the nanno
[11:02] <Tuxist> i have amd64 system
[11:02] <p0windah> gn0me: check out generic linux dual-mon guides
[11:02] <Carpe_Libertatem> that's some :-P
[11:02] <ompaul> BlackLabel^, I asked you a question, you ignored it
[11:02] <gn0me> Yeah, checked a bunch
[11:02] <BlackLabel^> i didnti
[11:02] <gn0me> p0windah: Tried copying their configs and stuff, and I can get clone to work.  But I want to make one big desktop and it always bugs out on the second display.
[11:02] <BlackLabel^> i said ati
[11:02] <BlackLabel^> :P
[11:03] <BlackLabel^> i would NEVER ignore YOU
[11:03] <ompaul> I missed your answer :)
[11:03] <BlackLabel^> :P
[11:03] <bzimage> ati?
[11:03] <ompaul> !tell BlackLabel^ about ati
[11:03] <StarKruzr> does anyone know if there is any decent tablet support for Linux in Ubuntu?
[11:03] <bzimage> hmm.. tha's asking for troubles
[11:03] <bzimage> :P
[11:03] <p0windah> gn0me: yeah, been there; done that. but rest assured its doable and not that difficult once you find the right info :)
[11:03] <BlackLabel^> ompaul
[11:03] <BlackLabel^> PM
[11:03] <liquidboy> hey, i'm wanting to get a lucent win modem to work, will i need drivers, where can i get them from
[11:03] <wickedpuppy> StarKruzr, currently no ...
[11:03] <inc|freaky> good morning :D
[11:04] <ompaul> BlackLabel^, no point I don't have one I can only point you at that page
[11:04] <StarKruzr> wicked: sad.  am getting a tablet soon and would prefer Ubuntu to XP
[11:04] <wickedpuppy> there are some programs but i don't know any major distro that works out of the box
[11:04] <p0windah> gn0me: I have a 20" portrait lcd and a 17" mon hooked up for awhile,, twas real nice
[11:04] <BlackLabel^> why no point in PMs?
[11:04] <wickedpuppy> StarKruzr, pls complain that to tablet manufacturers StarKruzr
[11:04] <gn0me> p0windah: :-\ Dang. I've been trying for about two hours now and it's gone from bad to worse and back.  19" CRT and something" television
[11:04] <BlackLabel^> i checked that page and i did what they said but it didnt work out
[11:04] <Tuxist> on the vice site is a patch for amd 64 systems for 1.14 is they include in the package
[11:04] <alisher> liquidboy: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6361
[11:05] <gn0me> p0windah: Primary's perfect.. just want to make a virtual desktop or something with the primary on the left and the secondary stuck on the right part of it
[11:05] <p0windah> StarKruzr: which tablet, I have a compaq one here
[11:05] <gn0me> then I can drag across without problems maybe.
[11:05] <ompaul> BlackLabel^, ooch that is the only resouce I know
[11:05] <StarKruzr> odd you should say that, probably getting a tc4200 :D
[11:05] <p0windah> gn0me: my setup used both screens as one big desktop
[11:05] <gn0me> Yeah.. it's just being difficult I guess.
[11:05] <p0windah> StarKruzr: only problem I've had with it and ubuntu/debian is getting the pen to work....
[11:05] <StarKruzr> hm
[11:06] <StarKruzr> dunno what kind of Wacom support there is
[11:06] <p0windah> apart from that everything works fine :)
[11:07] <xuniluser> Sorry got dc
[11:07] <alisher> liquidboy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/forum/hardware/lucent
[11:07] <DavidLeeRoth> xauth:  creating new authority file /root/.serverauth.7696 X:warning; process set to priority -1 instead of 0 RTgiving up. xinit:  connection refused (errno 111): unable to connect to x server  xinit:  No such Process (errno 3 ): Server Error
[11:08] <xuniluser> What app is used to create a .iso from a cdrom?
[11:08] <ompaul> BlackLabel^, I have just googled ati ubuntu and people are giving out big time about ati cards
[11:09] <p0windah> BlackLabel^: they're not good, I've always used ati and always had problems
[11:09] <Pinoy_Ako> does php is part of the package?
[11:09] <BlackLabel^> wait
[11:09] <BlackLabel^> maybe i fucked it up
[11:09] <BlackLabel^> lol
[11:09] <BlackLabel^> just a sec
[11:09] <ompaul> BlackLabel^,  please              put                 your          words on one line :)
[11:10] <Pinoy_Ako> all i can see what the apache python and mysql
[11:10] <BlackLabel^> LOL ye im sorry thats what everyone says
[11:10] <nalioth> BlackLabel^: and mind your tongue, please
[11:10] <p0windah> gn0me: there are some sample configs for free86 on this page that might be of some use. http://www.rage3d.com/content/articles/atilinuxhowto/
[11:12] <shad0w1e> question: how do I change my CC variable to gcc 3.4 instead of the current 4.0
[11:12] <p0windah> export ?
[11:12] <shad0w1e> i dont know?
[11:12] <inc|freaky> im trying to run kate but it says:
[11:12] <inc|freaky> uwe@loopy:~/downloads/root$ kate
[11:12] <inc|freaky> kate: ERROR: Communication problem with kate, it probably crashed.
[11:12] <ompaul> BlackLabel^, and the ati site is very much - our card is your problem - nice way to talk to their customers
[11:12] <inc|freaky> im on breezy
[11:12] <inc|freaky> is there any way i can fix this?
[11:14] <Pinoy_Ako> guys how do i install the apache mysql and php in ubunto?
[11:14] <p0windah> any married guys/gals here recommend some fun multiple player games one can play with their partner ? pref. gnome based ?
[11:14] <Chameleon22> Pinoy_Ako, apt-get is a good start
[11:14] <p0windah> I'm playing kbattleship with the mrs during our lunch breaks over freenx, but looking for more variety :)
[11:15] <BlackLabel^> looooool
[11:15] <Chameleon22> p0windah, umm street fighter?
[11:15] <Chameleon22> rofl
[11:15] <BlackLabel^> HAHA
[11:15] <Function> Chameleon22: that's not FOSS though
[11:15] <Function> :>
[11:15] <p0windah> she isnt the "kick other peoples heads in" kind of gamer :)
[11:15] <Chameleon22> ye i mean in real life
[11:15] <Chameleon22> :p
[11:16] <shad0w1e> how do I change my CC variable to point to gcc 3.4 instead of the 4.0 that its pointing to, now ?
[11:16] <Function> Chameleon22: running through the streets and beating up everyone who walks "in your way"?
[11:16] <minerva> hi
[11:16] <p0windah> it'd be sweet if there was some nice multiplayer tetris or mine sweeper
[11:16] <Chameleon22> p0windah, sorry man no suggestions here i am an xbox fella... me shoot and race, gf  adanvture so yeah very different tastes
[11:16] <Knelix> Well, looks like I've !@%^ed up the system...
[11:16] <Knelix> X won't start at all.
[11:16] <p0windah> Chameleon22: its hard to find common ground :)
[11:17] <Chameleon22> p0windah, bedroom always works hehehe
[11:17] <Knelix> I think I'm just going to download the stable 5.04 and re-install the system.
[11:17] <twibbler> Knelix: are you using breezy ?.
[11:17] <Chameleon22> any way i need to do some work before i get to excited
[11:17] <ompaul> Pinoy_Ako, sudo apt-get install apache2 mysql php < however before you do that in a terminal do this /msg ubotu repos
[11:17] <Knelix> twibbler: yes.
[11:17] <twibbler> Knelix: had the same problem would you like he solution .....
[11:18] <Knelix> twibbler: Sure.
[11:18] <twibbler> Knelix: when you bbot do you get a square which allows you to look at the xserver log ?.
[11:19] <Knelix> twibbler: hmm? No.. not really.. I get text, stating where the log is at, and a blank moire pattern screen after x tries to load.
[11:20] <twibbler> Knelix: ok... just to make sure within the log does it say fatal error on loading default font ...
[11:20] <Knelix> twibbler: i dunno... I notice an extension icon I've never noticed before right before it crashes... I'm thinking it may be my fiddling with the Nvidia driver or something...
[11:20] <Knelix> twibbler:hmm. lemme see..
[11:21] <uno> hi
[11:21] <shad0w1e> my nvidia driver is asking for the "kernel interface" to install.. is that the kernel source code??
[11:21] <Knelix> twibbler: Just tried again.. no.
[11:21] <p0windah> shad0w1e: you installed the linux-restricted-modules ?
[11:22] <shad0w1e> I did a dist-upgrade to breezy
[11:22] <Knelix> twibbler: The Nvidia drivers are fully functional under 5.04, right?
[11:22] <shad0w1e> from hoary
[11:22] <shad0w1e> which used to be warty
[11:22] <twibbler> Knelix: when you say no... you mean the xserver log doesn't give you the fatal error message ...
[11:22] <Knelix> twibbler: I don't get anything about fonts... I get "no screens found".
[11:22] <twibbler> Knelix.... thats the one .....
[11:23] <Knelix> twibbler: ?
[11:24] <Pinoy_Ako> how do i do that? sorry to ask that question. i just get started using linux, :)
[11:24] <Knelix> twibbler: If you have a solution... go ahead... 'cause I'm about to trash this system and start anew.. thereby throwing away my perfectly good 50%+ seti and einstein work units.
[11:24] <twibbler> Knelix: a bit further into the log .... gives you an error ... which should state that the default fixed font cannot be found so you just need to add a line to the following file .... /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/fonts/alias
[11:26] <useE1RF3QRF> HYN ATHA
[11:26] <useE1RF3QRF> DHQK
[11:26] <useE1RF3QRF> DB V
[11:26] <useE1RF3QRF> weewqlfd
[11:26] <useE1RF3QRF> wqf
[11:26] <Knelix> Question: What is Colony 5?
[11:26] <internet15> chim
[11:26] <useE1RF3QRF> d'hnqpf
[11:26] <useE1RF3QRF> ] qfvn
[11:26] <useE1RF3QRF> w lew
[11:26] <useE1RF3QRF> qn [q
[11:26] <useE1RF3QRF> fn
[11:26] <useE1RF3QRF> qm
[11:26] <useE1RF3QRF> q<mgov
[11:26] <useE1RF3QRF> weqmf
[11:26] <useE1RF3QRF> wm
[11:26] <useE1RF3QRF> wa
[11:26] <useE1RF3QRF> wem
[11:26] <twibbler> Knelix: and the first line should be (Without the quotes) "fixed    -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-120-75-75-c-60-iso8859-1"
[11:26] <useE1RF3QRF> wgm
[11:26] <useE1RF3QRF> fgmw
[11:27] <useE1RF3QRF> m
[11:27] <useE1RF3QRF> red+hy()":yu \n
[11:27] <twibbler> Knelix: that should now fix your xserver .....
[11:27] <Knelix> twibbler: Thank you... I will try that, but I am also afraid it may be something else.
[11:28] <twibbler> Knelix: I was as well it took many hours to figure that out ... and it resolved everything ... and I was having problems with other drivers at the time ...
[11:29] <nalioth> Knelix: colony 5 is a benchmark
[11:29] <Knelix> nalioth: And it is "out"... I don't get it...
[11:30] <sobersabre> what do you guys use to backup the emails in the email client ?
[11:31] <nalioth> Knelix: every time the devs make a great leap in stability, etc, they release a "milestone"
[11:31] <Carpe_Libertatem> Secret service.
[11:31] <Knelix> twibbler: "No such file or directory" when I try to switch to that directory.
[11:31] <sobersabre> Live_Liberated: are you answering me ?
[11:31] <twibbler> Knelix: Ill just check the directory ....
[11:31] <Knelix> nalioth: So the new Breezy is much more stable?
[11:31] <nalioth> Knelix: colony X is just a way of marking the days until "Preview Release X" and then the final
[11:31] <p0windah> Knelix: its still pre-release
[11:31] <Knelix> hmm.
[11:31] <inc|freaky> good morning nalioth ^^
[11:31] <twibbler> Knelix: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc
[11:32] <crow> hi
[11:32] <ndlovu> any ideas why Firefox might suddenly stop loading?
[11:32] <nalioth> Knelix: on oct 13, you can have all the stability you want
[11:32] <shad0w1e> how do I change my CC environment ??
[11:32] <nalioth> inc|freaky: howdy
[11:32] <sobersabre> ndlovu, no space on disk ...
[11:32] <p0windah> Knelix: its all explained on the main www.ubuntu.com page
[11:32] <inc|freaky> nalioth: i couldnt resist, i upgraded to breezy ;D everything working :D
[11:32] <Knelix> nalioth: I'll be looking forward to it. :-)
[11:32] <ndlovu> sobersabre: will check it out, but I think my disk space is fine
[11:32] <nalioth> shad0w1e: are you compiling in a terminal?
[11:32] <sobersabre> if firefox writes into /tmp which is fulll... this can happen
[11:33] <shad0w1e> nalioth, I'm using the NVIDIA installer
[11:33] <Knelix> p0windah: I know Breezy is preview now, just didn't know what Colony 5 meant.
[11:33] <nalioth> shad0w1e: in a terminal?
[11:33] <shad0w1e> nalioth, yes
[11:33] <Knelix> shad0w1e: On Breezy??!
[11:33] <crow> what is the name of package J2SE Runtime Environment (JRE) with Plug-in for Mozilla Firefox  (sudo apt-get install *****)
[11:33] <StarKruzr> the funny thing is that Breezy feels completely stable to me
[11:33] <shad0w1e> Knelix, yes!
[11:33] <shad0w1e> which is why gcc 4.0 is set up
[11:33] <Knelix> twibbler: Looking now...
[11:33] <shad0w1e> and I need 3.4
[11:33] <Knelix> shad0w1e: :-)
[11:33] <nalioth> shad0w1e: type this before you run the installer export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-<whatever>
[11:33] <p0windah> in the words of radiohead, just because you feel it doesnt mean its there
[11:33] <Knelix> shad0w1e: HOW?!
[11:33] <ndlovu> sobersabre: nope, plenty disk space. any other thoughts?
[11:34] <StarKruzr> ndlovu: gremlins.
[11:34] <StarKruzr> clearly gremlins.
[11:34] <sobersabre> little dwarves...
[11:34] <sobersabre> i've seen'em once..
[11:34] <ndlovu> SarKruzr: Ah yes, those damned gremlins again!
[11:34] <erik_> can anyone help me with how to add an printer, I need to add it to an tcp port but have none to choose
[11:34] <ndlovu> so... any idea how to hunt a gremlin? ... other than sunlight...
[11:35] <shad0w1e> nalioth, thanks so much!!!!
[11:36] <shad0w1e> but, whill this go back to 4.0 by default, or no?
[11:36] <ndlovu> crow: I think it's "sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5"
[11:36] <nalioth> shad0w1e: as soon as you close that terminal
[11:36] <shad0w1e> nalioth, thanks
[11:36] <crow> ndlovu: E: Couldn't find package sun-j2rel.5
[11:36] <crow> i try that
[11:36] <inc|freaky> crow: you have to compile it etc. yourself
[11:37] <ndlovu> crow: I had that problem a while ago...
[11:37] <inc|freaky> i installed java yesterday everything working fine here
[11:37] <ndlovu> crow: seemed it disappeared from the repository for a while and then came back.
[11:37] <inc|freaky> there is documentation int he wiki i just dont remember the site-name
[11:37] <Knelix> twibbler: I cannot find that either... it seems that I am truly "fraked".
[11:37] <crow> inc|freaky, oh :(, so download source tar.gz and manual compile or_?
[11:37] <inc|freaky> look for something like restricted formats and scroll down
[11:37] <ndlovu> crow: or at least it was in the repository, but not in the index somehow...
[11:38] <ThePyromaniac> crow: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66813 may help
[11:38] <inc|freaky> crow: go the wiki and search for restricted formats open a page called RestrictedFormats and scroll down there is the tutorial
[11:38] <ndlovu> crow: the instructions on ubuntuguide (www.ubuntuguide.org) were excellent for me.
[11:38] <twibbler> Knelix: did the directory exists ?...
[11:38] <crow> ok thnx ppl
[11:38] <Knelix> shad0w1e: You have to tell me how you intstalled the NVIDIA driver.. was it Ubuntu's own or NVIDIA's?
[11:38] <Knelix> twibbler: No, not even the second level.
[11:39] <ndlovu> okay, so other than space, any ideas how to find out why my Firefox won't start?
[11:39] <ndlovu> what's a good approach? Remove and reinstall with Synaptic?
[11:39] <nalioth> ndlovu: ubuntuguide is known to kill systems. you are either lucky or lucky
[11:39] <VoX> in the past few days, mplayer seems to have stopped working when trying to play dvds. it comes up with an error, saying it cant read the title information. any thoughts?
[11:39] <twibbler> Knelix: sounds like an ARGGGGHHHHH to me ..... for that is the directory needed to set the fonts for the xserver ..... hence xserver wont start ... I take it you have done a secound upgrade just to make sure ...
[11:40] <nalioth> crow: what do you want?
[11:40] <nalioth> !ubuntuguide
[11:40] <dawynn> I'm trying to do some sound recording.  I've got a device hooked into the "line" port on my sound card (Turtle Beach / Santa Cruz).  Anyone know where this comes into /dev?
[11:40] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is, like, totally, out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[11:40] <tzapachuau> my audio is not working with my VLC
[11:40] <stan|uni> ndlovu, suppose, you downloaded a backports binary
[11:40] <tzapachuau> anyone can suggest me a good video player
[11:40] <ndlovu> nalioth: I've been pretty lucky so far, I have to say! I really like the step-by-step approach. Especially when I don't have much time to research.
[11:40] <tzapachuau> it seems vlc is not working properly again
[11:40] <tzapachuau> i have treid killall ems
[11:40] <ndlovu> stan|uni: umm. yes.
[11:40] <erik_> can anyone say how to save printer settings (using gui), when I press close and the open propertieds
[11:40] <erik_> s
[11:40] <Knelix> twibbler: I've upgraded after the initial install, if that's what you mean (not sure if it is).
[11:40] <tzapachuau> the sound system is working fine
[11:40] <tzapachuau> i mean the event sounds
[11:40] <nalioth> ndlovu: you'd better start researching
[11:40] <erik_> can anyone say how to save printer settings (using gui), when I press close and the open propertieds
[11:41] <crow> nalioth: to have java working in Firefox, but i am getting E: Couldn't find package blackdown-j2rel.4  or sun-j2rel.5 ....
[11:41] <erik_> ghaa.. hate this keyboard
[11:41] <nalioth> crow: java is illegal to distribute, so ubuntu can't legally do it
[11:41] <p0windah> tzapachuau: care to try freenx ?
[11:41] <nalioth> crow: hoary or breezy?
[11:41] <erik_> when I press the properties again the change has not saved
[11:41] <dawynn> tzapachuau, for DVD's?  or wmv? or what?  Ogle works great for DVD's.
[11:42] <stan|uni> ndlovu, to fix this, remove backports from your sources.list, remove firefox, do an apt-get clean and reinstall firefox
[11:42] <Knelix> shad0w1e: I just downloaded 5.04 and am deciding whether to install it or Breezy, mainly based on if I can fully use my video card... I'd really appreciate it if you could tell me how you got to install the driver in Breezy...
[11:42] <tzapachuau> DAT vcd files
[11:42] <crow> nalioth: Breezy
[11:42] <VoX> when is vlc going to be installable on amd64?
[11:42] <nalioth> crow: these will work http://giannaros.org/tor/bt/
[11:42] <ndlovu> stan|uni: thanks. out of interest, what does 'apt-get clean' do?
[11:42] <nalioth> VoX: have apt build it
[11:43] <Knelix> Incredible. I have actual work to do, and yet I again find myself here.. fiddling with this system... for shame...
[11:43] <dawynn> Knelix, I use an NVIDIA card -- and am having no problems with driver supplied by ubuntu.
[11:43] <stan|uni> ndlovu, removes the so far downloaded binarys
[11:43] <shad0w1e> Knelix, it works fine on hoary
[11:43] <shad0w1e> I'm in middle of battling with breezy
[11:43] <ndlovu> nalioth: I wish I had all the time I needed to research, but productivity is unfortunately what I need my comuter for!
[11:43] <shad0w1e> I'm using an nvidia, and if I get it working ill letcha know!
[11:44] <dawynn> Knelix, although there usually is a problem each time the nvidia driver updates.
[11:44] <shad0w1e> I'm workin on it now..
[11:44] <VoX> nalioth: how? :)
[11:44] <nalioth> ndlovu: ubuntuguide WILL kill your box if you follow it long enough
[11:44] <stan|uni> ndlovu, in other words: cleans up /var/cache/apt/
[11:44] <Knelix> shad0w1e: Ah.. that's the main reason I'm thinking of downgrading to Hoary.
[11:44] <starshine> if I have a not-net-attached ubuntu ppc box and I want to fetch it some packages while my thumbdrive is at this little web kiosk, where would I look for my packages?
[11:44] <shad0w1e> you can downgrade!?
[11:44] <nalioth> VoX: in a terminal, type "sudo apt-get build-dep vlc"  then "sudo apt-get -b source vlc"
[11:44] <ndlovu> stan|uni: thanks, I'll try that.
[11:44] <shad0w1e> question: where are the kernel sources kept?
[11:45] <VoX> ah
[11:45] <shad0w1e> I need to find them
[11:45] <nalioth> VoX: after that is done, you should have a deb in the current directory to install
[11:45] <stan|uni> ndlovu, i'd strongly recommend to follow nalioths hints...
[11:45] <Knelix> shad0w1e: When you wipe the drive and install Hoary via the CD you can...
[11:45] <shad0w1e> Knelix, lol
[11:45] <Knelix> shad0w1e: :-P
[11:45] <shad0w1e> Knelix, the "nv" driver def. works
[11:45] <shad0w1e> but then no 3d
[11:45] <sobersabre> anybody here backs up his/her emails ?
[11:45] <shad0w1e> : (
[11:45] <p0windah> sobersabre: yah
[11:45] <shad0w1e> where are ubuntu's kernel sources located?
[11:45] <Knelix> shad0w1e: Exactly. Useless. I can't even get the 3d screen savers to work.
[11:45] <sobersabre> with what ? ( cron+cp ? )
[11:46] <p0windah> sobersabre: tar zcvf
[11:46] <stan|uni> ndlovu, if you need more help, u will find this problem being discussed in nearly every ubuntu forum
[11:46] <dawynn> Knelix, breezy is working fine with the linux restricted modules -- even with the "nvidia" driver.  You just need to learn one little command.
[11:46] <liquidboy> hey, i'm trying to get my lucent winmodem to work, i'm reading a howto on this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/forum/hardware/lucent i got up to these commands " sudo mkdir /lib/modules/`uname -r`/other
[11:46] <liquidboy> sudo cp *.ko /lib/modules/`uname -r`/other"  the first one was fine, but when i entered the second one, it said it couldnt find the file or directory " :(
[11:46] <shad0w1e> Knelix, I'm thinking once Breezy becomes stable (few weeks) this problem will sort itself out?
[11:46] <pzico> hey, can someone point out some ubuntu hardware support list? I need to know if highpoint 1640 raid controller works
[11:46] <Knelix> shad0w1e: I was trying to explain to my non-tech savvy cousin why I couldn't get 3d to work and he just gave me this strange look... it just looks bad...
[11:46] <sobersabre> p0windah, how can you manage incremental backup ?
[11:46] <ndlovu> stan|uni: appreciate it, but unfortunately I need my Firefox working to get to the forums!
[11:46] <Knelix> shad0w1e: Exactly. And then I shall upgrade.
[11:46] <shad0w1e> Knelix, first off you need to download the drivers
[11:46] <shad0w1e> from nvidia
[11:46] <sobersabre> I have abouy 140M of mail to backup.
[11:46] <bob2> HE KILLED FOR YOUR SINS
[11:46] <starshine> gawd, apt-move would be so much easier :(
[11:46] <shad0w1e> that you know,?
[11:47] <erik_> need help with network printer, pm me if you can
[11:47] <Knelix> dawynn: Even 3D?
[11:47] <shad0w1e> X wouldn't open and it logged to xorg.0.log
[11:47] <stan|uni> ndlovu, there are other browsers... - but u will make it without it, i'm sure
[11:47] <shad0w1e> or s/t
[11:47] <shad0w1e> I looked at it
[11:47] <temperboi> hello, how do i remove the old version of glib? i have instaled glib2.0 but when i try to ./configure xmms it say glib >=1.2 not installed.. how do i removed the old version?
[11:47] <shad0w1e> and it gave me a url to look for
[11:47] <p0windah> sobersabre: I dont, I burn the backups to DVD
[11:47] <shad0w1e> newer drivers
[11:47] <dawynn> Knelix, I run Neverwinter Nights without a problem.  What are you trying to get to run/
[11:47] <ndlovu> nalioth, stan|uni: you're saying that as a rule, backports is a _bad_ idea?
[11:48] <sobersabre> hm... i think I will now make something to diff the files... and then incrementally patch
[11:48] <sobersabre> is there a ready package for that  ?
[11:48] <Knelix> dawynn: just the 3D screen savers included with Gnome.. the turning wheels, etc... they can hardly run.
[11:48] <stan|uni> stan|uni, at least if u have them in your sources.list by default: YES
[11:48] <nalioth> ndlovu: yes, use them warily
[11:48] <starshine> ndlovu: yeah I think so; ideally you would only use them when you know you have an abiding reason to not jump to new releases
[11:48] <temperboi> :( anyone? :S
[11:48] <dawynn> Knelix, note that the 'nv' driver is NOT what you want.  You'll want to use the 'nvidia' driver.
[11:48] <p0windah> sobersabre: if you do incremental and you lose one in the middle... ?
[11:49] <nalioth> ndlovu: as in "only enable them when you have to have something, and disable them when you get it"
[11:49] <Knelix> dawynn: Which doesn't seem to work in Breezy...
[11:49] <sobersabre> p0windah, that's the idea of backup: you backup, verify and store then.
[11:49] <dawynn> Knelix, make sure you have the following installed: linux-restricted-modules (use the latest for your kernel), nvidia-glx, nvidia-kernel-common, and nvidia-settings.
[11:50] <sobersabre> am i wronga ?
[11:50] <Orbman> hi, i've got an on board sound card and a sound blaster live, both are working fine, i've disabled the on board sound card in the bios but ubuntu keeps picking it up, can i stop ubuntu from loading the onboard sound ?
[11:50] <p0windah> sobersabre: that storing, I am talking about recovery
[11:50] <ndlovu> thanks all for the suggestions, I always appreciate this channel!
[11:50] <pzico> if RAID card compatibility list has (SuSe, FreeBSD, Red Hat, Caldera, Turbo) will it also work on Ubuntu?
[11:50] <ccooke> Does anyone know if there's a way to set which sound device the Gnome shortcut keys (volume up/down and mute) control?
[11:50] <dawynn> Knelix, what exact problem are you having with Breezy and 'nvidia'?  I'm currently running Breezy
[11:50] <sobersabre> p0windah, "verify" means recovery.
[11:50] <stan|uni> ndlovu, u r welcomr
[11:50] <ccooke> I'd like to be sure before I have to submit a big report.
[11:50] <sobersabre> but I got your idea.
[11:51] <p0windah> well if you go down the diff path, and one of your backups is no good. you're up the creek
[11:51] <VoX> nalioth: i did that, no vlc .deb to be found
[11:51] <shad0w1e> how do I find out what kernel I'm running?
[11:51] <sobersabre> p0windah, of course there's a weekly full backup.
[11:51] <Orbman> shad0w1e: sudo uname -a
[11:51] <p0windah> ...ofcourse
[11:51] <shad0w1e> Orbman,  thanks
[11:51] <pzico> please.. I wanna know if hightpoint sata raid 1640 works on Warty before I purchase it.. couldn't find any information from internet
[11:51] <dawynn> Knelix, typically when you upgrade to a new nvidia-glx, you will find that the next time you boot your machine, it will seem to hang at a console.  But, you still have your virtual consoles.
[11:51] <Orbman> shad0w1e: actually you dont need the sudo
[11:52] <temperboi> am in on ignore or something? ;( can i pm anyonw for help? :((
[11:52] <p0windah> shad0w1e: uname -r
[11:52] <p0windah> temperboi: what was your question ?
[11:52] <shad0w1e> -a gives more...
[11:52] <Knelix> dawynn: Well, simply there's no 3D acceleration... it runs regular video fine, but no 3D. In fact, when I had it connected to the board's horrible integrated graphics it ran the 3D screen savers, albeit excruciatingly slowly... but since I switched to the card, they don't even appear.. I get "no preview" and they simply won't run.
[11:52] <Knelix> dawynn: How's that?
[11:52] <p0windah> temperboi: install the -dev packages as well
[11:52] <Orbman> anyone know how i can tell ubuntu to ignore my onboard sound, even though it's disabled in the bios its still picking it up
[11:53] <inc|freaky> what is limewire?
[11:53] <temperboi> i have installed all in development.
[11:53] <temperboi> and all the libraries
[11:53] <Knelix> inc|freaky: bad code.
[11:53] <inc|freaky> Knelix: allright ;p
[11:53] <Knelix> inc|freaky: it's a P2P app.
[11:53] <_mindspin> mount -t smbfs //servername/share  /home/username/Desktop/share  -o rw,gid=groupname,uid=username,username=username,password=
[11:53] <_mindspin> does anyone have an idea why this share is sometimes writeable and sometimes not??
[11:53] <nalioth> inc|freaky: use gtk-gnutella instead of limewire
[11:53] <dawynn> Knelix, try this -- hold down 'ctrl' and 'alt' and press 'F2'.  Once you get there, hold down 'ctrl' and 'alt' and press 'F7' and you should be back at 'X'.
[11:54] <shad0w1e> screw this, I'm gonna try it on the 686 kernel
[11:54] <Knelix> inc|freaky: I've used it on the Mac, so I can't say about other versions, but it was by far the worse P2P app, and prob. one of the few spyware apps for the Mac.
[11:54] <p0windah> anyone know whether the ubuntu/gnome guys are working on gnome-vfs-fuse stuff ? to allow networking mounting into the filesystem ?
[11:54] <inc|freaky> how do i format a unformated partition into ext3 and have it beeing automounted as /mnt/media ?
[11:55] <Knelix> dawynn: Damn... How in the heck?!.... It worked?!!...
[11:55] <Function> inc|freaky: use mke2fs and edit your /etc/fstab
[11:55] <dawynn> Knelix, that's what I mean by virtual terminals.  Under a default setup, everyone has 6 virtual consoles, then a 7th with 'X'.  This is crucial to remember when you're having a spot of trouble and the system seems to hang on bootup.  You should always be able to get to a console.
[11:55] <inc|freaky> how do i find out which /dev/ it is?
[11:55] <p0windah> fdisk -l
[11:55] <xuniluser> How can i create an iso from a cdrom? help
[11:55] <inc|freaky> its the 3rd partition (linux /, swap, thepartitioniwant) sda
[11:55] <dawynn> Knelix, now bring up a command line (ok to do this in X for now) and type 'sudo nvidia-glx-config enable'.
[11:55] <nalioth> xuniluser: use k3b
[11:56] <Knelix> dawynn: Incredible... Cheers for redundancy!...
[11:56] <starshine> magicpoint in ubuntu doesn't speak truetype?!? wtf?
[11:56] <Function> inc|freaky: then it's probably sda3
[11:56] <Function> ;)
[11:56] <nalioth> inc|freaky: use gparted on your free space
[11:56] <dawynn> Knelix, after enable nvidia-glx, try glxgears again.
[11:57] <Knelix> dawynn: terminal is hanging...
[11:57] <starshine> luckily I don't speak until tomorrow.  unluckily I have no direct-link until tomorrow either :/
[11:57] <shad0w1e> ok later guys, as of now my problem is still not resolved, and thanks for all the help!
[11:57] <dawynn> Knelix, at what point.  The enable?  Or glxgears?
[11:57] <p0windah> what was his problem ?
[11:57] <Knelix> dawynn: No, it doesn't want to run in Gnome.
[11:57] <shad0w1e> getting nvidia 3d to work on breezy
[11:57] <shad0w1e> lol
[11:58] <inc|freaky> nalioth: its "unallocated"
[11:58] <Jojeta> Hi! I install apache2 and php4 and it works great. now I want also to use MySql, I install the package php4-mysql, but I don't now how to run it. myphpadmin also can't connect it. How do I run MySql?
[11:58] <dawynn> Knelix, you can't get a console to work in Gnome?  If nothing else, sign on to one of the virtual consoles (ctrl-alt-f2).
[11:58] <p0windah> Jojeta: mysql-server methinks
[11:58] <inc|freaky> nalioth: should i create as primary or extended partition?
[11:59] <sobersabre> guys, does anybody know if it is possible to have more than 1 pop3 account with evolution 2.4.0 ?
[11:59] <Jojeta> p0windah, there isn't command mysql-server, the only command that starts with mysql is mysql-admin
[11:59] <p0windah> Jojeta: what I meant was, you need to install mysql-server
[12:00] <Knelix> dawynn: I think I'm just going to save my work units and re-install... cause I'm not sure what's mssed up.
[12:00] <p0windah> Jojeta: from memory php4-mysql is only the myclient client for php
[12:00] <p0windah> Jojeta: not that actual server
[12:00] <twibbler> Jojeta: from command line mysql -u <userid> -p then enter the password ... if there is one ...
[12:00] <nalioth> inc|freaky: unallocated is ok
[12:00] <nalioth> inc|freaky: turn it into ext3
[12:01] <Jojeta> thank you, I'm downloading it right now
[12:01] <inc|freaky> am just doing so :)
[12:01] <dawynn> Knelix, note that if you forget that nivida enable command, you can look it up in aptitude (a console package management tool).  It's in the description for package nvidia-glx.
[12:01] <Knelix> hmm.
[12:02] <massiC> Joieta: mysqld starts the server daemon
[12:02] <inc|freaky> nalioth: it tells me i should restart, brb
[12:02] <starshine> is there any notes anywhere for dealing with ubuntu updating when one-step-removed?
[12:02] <dawynn> OK - now back to my problem.  Anyone know where a 'line' input would come into /dev?
[12:02] <p0windah> so any noobs in here with questions I can answer easily ?
[12:02] <p0windah> dont be scared, we're mostly nice some of the time
[12:02] <starshine> p0windah: heh :(
[12:03] <p0windah> we dont do those in here
[12:03] <dawynn> p0windah, Know anything about sound recording?
[12:03] <p0windah> depends on what you want to do
[12:03] <dawynn> I'd like to record, but I can't figure out where sound is coming into my system!
[12:04] <VoX> nalioth: Build command 'cd vlc-0.8.2 && dpkg-buildpackage -b -uc' failed.
[12:04] <p0windah> line in ?
[12:04] <dawynn> p0windah, I know where to put it into my sound card.  Where does that line in show up on /dev?
[12:04] <nalioth> VoX: where did the dpkg-buildpackage come from? let apt build it for ya
[12:05] <VoX> nalioth: i did
[12:05] <dawynn> p0windah, audacity wants the actual /dev location.
[12:05] <nalioth> VoX: apt failed in building it, too?
[12:05] <VoX> nod
[12:05] <p0windah> dawynn: oic, one sec. I dont use sound normally, but I'll look it up
[12:05] <starshine> sigh. I bet cgi irc doesn't highlight me if someone can help either :/
[12:05] <inc|freaky> nalioth: done, what to do now?
[12:05] <idleCat> After I upgraded to breezy, I'm getting strange characters embedded in my gcc/g++ stderror. Example: invalid types int[int]  <--- the  Any ideas?
[12:05] <nalioth> VoX: inc|freaky read up on your fstab editing
[12:05] <nalioth> crap
[12:05] <dawynn> p0windah, I'm hearing the line in, and I've located it in KMix, but that doesn't show where it comes into /dev.
[12:06] <starshine> p0windah: ok I've an easy question, who do I lart about mgp not being built sanely?
[12:06] <nalioth> VoX: amd64 and ppc lag behind in binaries.
[12:06] <inc|freaky> is there anything i can look out for or do i have to read all the fstab documentation?
[12:06] <p0windah> starshine: ompaul
[12:06] <VoX> nalioth: so i've found ;)
[12:06] <starshine> p0windah: tx
[12:06] <nalioth> inc|freaky: well, let me say "monkey see monkey do" (look to your own fstab)
[12:06] <p0windah> dawynn: appears to be /dev/dsp
[12:07] <inc|freaky> nalioth: can i just "copy" the entry from linux /?
[12:07] <dawynn> p0windah, know any way that I can confirm if its /dev/dsp?
[12:07] <p0windah> dawynn: /dev/dsp is out I thinks
[12:08] <tashiro> Hi! Can someone say me in which package I find "python-config"?
[12:09] <Knelix> How do I chmod a all the contents of a directory at once?
[12:09] <nalioth> inc|freaky: i'd have a look first b4 you copy anthing
[12:09] <nalioth> Knelix: use the recursive switch
[12:09] <inc|freaky> . /dev/sda1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1 is the / partition
[12:09] <Knelix> nalioth: Huh?
[12:09] <Shin_Gouki> hi i download ubuntu 5.04, now i want to verify the MD5 sum the problem is im using win98, so i need a programm to create MD5 sum on win9x , anyone?
[12:10] <inc|freaky> nalioth: would it be ok copying?
[12:10] <p0windah> dawynn: this is a little off-topic, but this seems reasonably well written. http://forum.skype.com/viewtopic.php?p=16772#16772
[12:10] <Knelix> !chmod
[12:10] <ubotu> chmod is probably a command used to change the permissions of a file or folder. see `man chmod` for a synopsis.
[12:10] <Knelix> !man chmod
[12:10] <ubotu> Knelix: Bugger all, i dunno
[12:10] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: visit www.freewarehome.com and find you a md5 utility
[12:11] <Knelix> ubotu: Useless bot!! :-P
[12:11] <ubotu> Knelix: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[12:11] <dawynn> p0windah, thanks.  I'll give it a look.
[12:11] <nalioth> Knelix: what are you doin?
[12:11] <nalioth> Knelix: do that in YOUR terminal
[12:11] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, ill try thx!
[12:12] <Knelix> nalioth: I am just trying to change all permissions in a folder, so I can copy it.
[12:13] <p0windah> Knelix: chown -R user.group /directory/   or   chmod u+rwx -R /directory/
[12:13] <nalioth> Knelix: then open your terminal and type "man chmod" in IT, not in here (ubotu is kinda blind to some things)
[12:14] <Knelix> nalioth: heh. okay... tell him I apologize. He's a fine bot. :-P
[12:14] <Knelix> p0windah: So, for example, chmod u+777 /knelix/
[12:14] <Knelix> p0windah: is that right?
[12:14] <p0windah> no its not
[12:15] <Knelix> p0windah: Hmm.
[12:15] <p0windah> I think nalioth was onto something good when he suggested your read the man entry
[12:15] <Knelix> p0windah: Oh, yeah.. I forgot..
[12:15] <Knelix> p0windah: chmod u+777 -R /knelix/
[12:16] <Knelix> p0windah: It's that the man entries are soooo long... and my screen goes to 640x480 in CLI... (remember, I can't launch the terminal from Gnome now) and it takes so long to find what I need...
[12:17] <p0windah> Knelix: you can search a man by pressing the "/" key
[12:17] <inc|freaky> done it works :D
[12:17] <Shin_Gouki> @nalioth, thx thats a cool site ill bookmark it!!! :)
[12:17] <nalioth> Knelix: hit alt-f2 and type "gnome-terminal"
[12:17] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: forget that site. you wont need it with linux
[12:18] <p0windah> Knelix: and its long because its complex and you really should read it and make sure you understand exactly what you are doing before you start screwing around with permissions and ownership
[12:19] <Knelix> p0windah: Mac OS X is my primary OS, so I know about permissions. But, I just don't know how to alter them in the CLI.
[12:19] <nalioth> Knelix: yes. permissions are important. changing the wrong files permissions can shut your box down
[12:19] <p0windah> Knelix: I'd recommend if you simply are changing them so its easier to copy, you shouldnt change them
[12:20] <Knelix> nalioth: I know. It's just so frustrating how I can't change permissions in the graphical browser. I can do that on mac OS X with no prob.... And I've never had a problem with the system.
[12:20] <p0windah> Knelix: try "sudo tar zcvf stuff_want_to_copy.tar.gz /the/directory/"
[12:20] <p0windah> Knelix: that way you have one file, which you may change ownership/permissions on without accidentally screwing up your system
[12:21] <MadpilotPPC> Knelix, on stuff that you own, you can change permissions in Nautilus - right click, select properties for the file/directory you want
[12:21] <Knelix> p0windah: I don't understand why my folding@home directory is only available for root.. I think that's a little overboard...
[12:21] <p0windah> problably because you installed it as root
[12:22] <Knelix> MadpilotPPC: In Mac OS X (Aqua) you can change root permissions by"authenticating" yourself within the GUI... It's painless, unlike my experiences with such things in Nautilus.
[12:22] <cef> anyone suggest a linux-based h/drive testing util apart from badblocks? badblocks works well, I just wanna put these drives I have here through a bit of a test and make sure they're reliable
[12:22] <nalioth> Knelix: i advise against opening any file manglers using sudo. otw it will be a real file mangler
[12:22] <p0windah> Knelix: one sec, let me load gui and see how its done
[12:23] <Raptoid> selamlar
[12:23] <nightswim> is there an ubuntu equivalent of packages.debian.org?
[12:23] <ColonelKernel> how do I remove all the openoffice 1 packages?
[12:23] <alisher> packages.ubuntu.com
[12:24] <Knelix> I realize that I don't yet know how a lot of things work, but even the ones I am fairly good at I don't know how to do in CLI, which is frustrating...
[12:24] <nightswim> ah
[12:24] <nightswim> if a piece of software complains like this: Could not get font '-adobe-helvetica-bold-r-normal--19-0-100-100-p-0-iso8859-1'. Using 'fixed'.
[12:24] <Knelix> Aqua has spoiled me.
[12:25] <nightswim> what would be a good package to install
[12:26] <topyli> ColonelKernel: find them in synaptic, remove them
[12:27] <jebus2> hello?
[12:28] <marcin_ant> hi all
[12:28] <marcin_ant> got a question
[12:28] <jebus2> as do I
[12:28] <marcin_ant> could someone tell me how to enable bitmap fonts in ubuntu?
[12:28] <jebus2> Mine is a dual boot question
[12:28] <jebus2> any takers?
[12:29] <alisher> marcin_ant: sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig
[12:29] <nalioth> jebus2: we aren't mind readers
[12:29] <topyli> nightswim: xfonts-100dpi, xfonts-75dpi, xfonts-scalable. but those should be there already. perhaps the xfonts-XXX-transcoded too
[12:29] <marcin_ant> I reconfigured fontconfig - and enabled bitmap fonts but still no luck
[12:29] <jebus2> I have xp running on a RAID 0 and I have a spare hard drive to set up Ubuntu on..how can I dual boot these?
[12:29] <marcin_ant> alisher, heh unfortunately it doesn't work - this is why I ask here
[12:29] <nightswim> topyli: thanks I'll have a look
[12:30] <marcin_ant> jebus2, and you want to use this additional hdd for ubuntu only?
[12:30] <jebus2> yes
[12:30] <jebus2> well..and swap partition as well
[12:30] <jebus2> it's only 20 gig
[12:30] <marcin_ant> jebus2, well I think that it should run without problems
[12:31] <jebus2> so far, I can't get it to reboot with getting the standard windows boot optoins.. xp or 2000
[12:31] <alisher> marcin_ant: have you restarted X after did reconfigure?
[12:31] <marcin_ant> jebus2, if you can then you could temporarily unplug your raid matrix
[12:31] <marcin_ant> alisher yes
[12:31] <marcin_ant> jebus2, then install ubuntu on additional drive
[12:31] <jebus2> so don't have raid matrix connected at the time of install
[12:31] <marcin_ant> jebus2, and after this just add windows entry to grub
[12:32] <marcin_ant> jebus2, but this is 'safe' method 'paranoid' :)
[12:32] <jebus2> cause right now.. I get a grub error 17 when I boot off that hard drive (the one with ubuntu)
[12:32] <Skid> jebus2: did you google?
[12:32] <Skid> (hdd -> LBA)
[12:32] <jebus2> I searched forums a bit
[12:32] <Skid> due to larger boot parittions
[12:32] <Skid> there's some stuff on the gentoo forums for a fix
[12:33] <Skid> i came accross whilst sticking a desktop install on a mates 203GB drive
[12:33] <marcin_ant> jebus2, in fact you should just install ubuntu on additional drive (just select partitions where you want to install) and grub entry for windows should appear automagically
[12:33] <jebus2> nope
[12:33] <jebus2> that's wht I was hoping for
[12:33] <jebus2> I think the RAID matrix is throwing that option off
[12:33] <jebus2> because the initial install doesn't properly recognize RAID during parition time
[12:34] <marcin_ant> jebus2, hmm
[12:34] <jebus2> On the live CD, it didn't recognize the RAID matrix
[12:34] <marcin_ant> jebus2, but you got ubuntu installed properly?
[12:34] <Oetzi> hi
[12:34] <jebus2> well.. so far as I can tell.. I've never booted up to see how it works
[12:34] <jebus2> it always errors
[12:34] <marcin_ant> jebus2, and you can boot to ubuntu if you unplug raif?
[12:34] <jebus2> haven't unplugged raid
[12:35] <jebus2> was hoping to be lazy and avoid a RAID removal
[12:35] <Oetzi> can anyone tell on which apt-source i can find svn
[12:35] <Oetzi> client
[12:35] <jebus2> I actually left partition space on the RAID for an install of Linux.. but I have yet to find a Linus distro that installs to an already partitioned RAID array
[12:35] <marcin_ant> jebus2, is this hardware raid? scsi?
[12:35] <jebus2> hardware
[12:36] <jebus2> sil controlled
[12:36] <flodine> anyone know the command to install kde on breezy?
[12:36] <jebus2> two 80 gig SATA's in RAID 0
[12:36] <jebus2> fuggin' fast as hell I might add.. least for XP
[12:36] <Oetzi> flodine: apt-get install kde
[12:36] <topyli> Oetzi: how about "rapidsvn - A GUI client for subversion"
[12:37] <Oetzi> topyli: plz no gui
[12:37] <Oetzi> is just need the simple svn-command for console
[12:38] <jebus2> I know it install because xp can't see the ext3 parition drive at all
[12:38] <Oetzi> ah i found it
[12:38] <nalioth> Oetzi: subversion is the name
[12:38] <Oetzi> nalioth: thx
[12:38] <topyli> Oetzi: perhaps there's one in the subversion package itself
[12:38] <topyli> oh
[12:38] <marcin_ant> jebus2, well first thing is that it propably isn't fully hardware solution - for linux
[12:39] <marcin_ant> jebus2, but if you wand to install linux on additional hdd
[12:39] <cafuego_> jebus2: that's software raid, doin't use it.
[12:39] <marcin_ant> jebus2, it shoudn't matter
[12:39] <jebus2> so far, I get a grub error 17
[12:39] <jebus2> the drive is on a slave IDE..that matter?
[12:39] <cafuego_> jebus2: you can use the in-kernel software raid system. (But that requires LILO, not grub)
[12:39] <marcin_ant> jebus2, if you can just temporarily unplug your raid devices - and install ubuntu on this additional hdd
[12:40] <jebus2> then turn the RAID on post succesful install?
[12:40] <jebus2> manually configure Grub?
[12:40] <marcin_ant> jebus2, make sure that your ubuntu installation is ok - then plug your raid and then you can fight with boot manager again
[12:40] <jebus2> Can Grub recognize a RAID windows install?
[12:41] <ccooke> jebus2: software or hardware raid?
[12:41] <jebus2> hardware as far as I know
[12:41] <Oetzi> can someone confirm that x locale problems have been fixed?
[12:41] <jebus2> A sil controller on the mobo is running it
[12:41] <marcin_ant> jebus2, theoretically you should have an ability to run linux or windows from grub and linux or windows from nt loader
[12:41] <ccooke> jebus2: ah, so software assisted, probably?
[12:41] <marcin_ant> jebus2, it depends from your hardware
[12:41] <jebus2> that's a probably conclusion ccooke
[12:42] <ccooke> jebus2: did you have to configure windows for it?
[12:42] <jebus2> nope
[12:42] <ccooke> no special drivers?
[12:42] <ccooke> what's the box?
[12:42] <jebus2> not as far as I can tell
[12:42] <ndlovu> hmm... quick question. seems that hoary + firefox 1.0.7 = a place you don't wanna go. but even removing backports from sources and apt-get updating, synaptic reports the current version as 1.0.7. any way to go back to an earlier version?
[12:42] <jebus2> Gigabyte mobo k8n with AMD 3000 939 proc, two raid controllers.. one nvidia and one sil
[12:43] <ccooke> jebus2: real hardware raid would be absolutely transparent to the OS - it just sees a disk.
[12:43] <nalioth> ndlovu: once you've removed backports from your sources.list, run "apt-get -f install"
[12:43] <topyli> ndlovu: you can force a version of a package in synaptic
[12:43] <jebus2> XP just sees a disk
[12:43] <ccooke> right. Then it *might* be a real raid
[12:43] <jebus2>  A live distro of Knoppis and Ubuntu see two drives
[12:43] <ccooke> Ah
[12:43] <ccooke> so, probably some software assist.
[12:44] <jebus2> some.. in the lightest fashion... XP never acted like anything changed when I ghosted it
[12:44] <jebus2> except the partr where it was about 3 times faster
[12:44] <jebus2> This is a SATA RAID by the way
[12:46] <jebus2> I partitioned the hard drive with Ubunto to have 18 gig for OS and 2 gig for swap (plenty I'm sure)
[12:46] <ndlovu> nalioth: tried apt-get -f install; apt-get update, and still latest version = 1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1...
[12:46] <jebus2> get this.. I have to pick a nother drive unrealted to the install to even get it to try grub
[12:46] <jebus2> if I pick the drive I installed Ubuntu to.. it says no OS installed
[12:46] <nalioth> ndlovu: apt-get --purge remove your mozilla
[12:47] <jebus2> when I go back into xp.. the drive that atleast gets grub to start.. still is NTFS.. just like I left it
[12:47] <Shin_Gouki> Hello ! i have a nasty problem :/ description:
[12:48] <jebus2> the free drive I installed Ubuntu on is a slave drive.... does that make a massive differnce?
[12:48] <jebus2> I could easily switch it
[12:48] <Shin_Gouki> i downloaded ubuntu 5.04 , iso , i burned it to a cdr , but while decompressing install it said: CRC Error System halted :|
[12:48] <ndlovu> topyli: thanks for the suggestion. good to know about that option, but also don't want funky dependencies!
[12:49] <Shin_Gouki> so i thought: 1. my CD is not valid or my image, now i made md5 sum of the image and its ok
[12:49] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: use your new shiny md5 checker on the .iso you downloaded, AND the cd-r you burned
[12:49] <Shin_Gouki> so my CD was broken? shall i try again to burn the image??
[12:49] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: and burn it slow (for best flavor)
[12:49] <Dekon> Mmm, slow roasted CD-rs
[12:50] <jebus2> I was also trying the breezy badger ... should I back off to a more stable distro?
[12:50] <pl_ice> hej, what's the full command to compress using zip? :/
[12:51] <jebus2> am I typing to no one now?
[12:51] <jebus2> it's okay.. I understand... I just don't want to keep doing it
[12:51] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth
[12:51] <nalioth> pl_ice: why are you using zip? use bzip2
[12:51] <Shin_Gouki> i sed the md5 programm i found with ur help, as i said , the MD5 sum was ok
[12:51] <nalioth> jebus2: it'll be stable in less than 2 weeks
[12:51] <pl_ice> hm, ok bzip2 then, couse other user is xp,
[12:52] <nalioth> pl_ice: winzip will open all of em we use here
[12:52] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth used the md5 programm i found with ur help, as i said , the MD5 sum was ok
[12:52] <bzimage> pl_ice, zip -9 name.zip <files/dir>
[12:52] <jebus2> I'm all fine with unstable.. just not uninstallable
[12:52] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: then burn it slooooooow (and check the md5 of the burnt disk when you're done)
[12:52] <jebus2> this is my toy on the side
[12:52] <onkarshinde> jebus2: breezy is not final yet
[12:52] <jebus2> I have a powerbook and xp to keep me afloat till I get this under control
[12:52] <nalioth> bzimage: FOSS
[12:52] <bzimage> FOSS?
[12:52] <pl_ice> ok, thnx :)
[12:53] <Shin_Gouki>  nalioth ,  the websaite and the porgramm said both: F6B3F164C99761234858A4D2C12D0840, slow u mean 4x is too fast? ?
[12:53] <nalioth> bzimage: Free/Open Source Software
[12:53] <jebus2> so.. maybe back off to Warty?
[12:53] <bzimage> oh that
[12:53] <bzimage> hehe
[12:53] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: i mean that sometimes slower is better
[12:53] <bzimage> then indeed bzip2
[12:53] <bzimage> :P
[12:53] <bzimage> or gzip
[12:53] <onkarshinde> jebus2: hoary
[12:53] <nalioth> bzimage: iirc, zip is not FOSS
[12:53] <nalioth> bzimage: and it sucks in comparison to bzip2
[12:53] <bzimage> i know..
[12:53] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth , how can i very that the image is REALLY successful burned onto the CD??
[12:53] <bzimage> i just gave answer to his question
[12:53] <bzimage> ;)
[12:53] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: md5 the burnt cd-r
[12:54] <jebus2> that's what I meant
[12:54] <pl_ice> hm, i compressed jpeg with -9 got 0% compression ...
[12:54] <jebus2> thx ;)
[12:54] <nalioth> bzimage: educate those who come here (who may not know anyting but what the evil empire has shown them)
[12:54] <enyc> nali: 'info-zip' is Free Software (FOSS)
[12:54] <bzimage> pl_ice, jpegs are compressed allready
[12:55] <bzimage> nalioth, ok..
[12:55] <bzimage> :)
[12:55] <nalioth> enyc: what is "info-zip"?
[12:55] <pl_ice> i know bzimage  :/ just tried to squize it bit more ... :/
[12:55] <onkarshinde> jebus2: hoary is current stable release available from April this year. If you are patient enough then wait for breezy for 15 days
[12:55] <enyc> nali: which is normally-used implementation of ZIP and is backend to some other projects, like 7-zip'a zip support, iirc
[12:55] <enyc> nali: err, zip/unzip program/libraries iirc
[12:55] <bzimage> lzma is also sweet
[12:55] <bzimage> :P
[12:55] <nalioth> enyc: can you hit the <tab> key please (it makes my box ring when you do)
[12:55] <enyc> bali: http://www.info-zip.org/pub/infozip/
[12:56] <jebus2> so.. I am going to put the drive I install Ubuntu to master instead of slave.. remove RAID array temporarilty.. then add after stable install is demonstrated
[12:56] <jebus2> sound good?
[12:56] <jebus2> and use hoary instead of the latest for now
[12:57] <bzimage> hmm.. what? can't bzip2 do recursive compression?
[12:57] <enyc> bzimage: erm.... what do you mean 'recursive compression' ?
[12:57] <bzimage> well.. directories and such
[12:57] <enyc> bzimage: you mean compressing a bz2 file (e.g. name.bz2.bz2 )?
[12:58] <enyc> bzimage: no, and neither does gzip or rzip ;-)
[12:58] <enyc> bzimage: you use 'tar' to create the 'archive'
[12:58] <enyc> bzimage: and 'gzip' or 'bzip2' to compress that
[12:58] <bzimage> hmm.. ooh well.. i allways user the tar
[12:58] <bzimage> in combi with gzip or bz2
[12:58] <nalioth> bzimage: you use tar + bzip or gzip
[12:58] <bzimage> :P
[12:58] <bzimage> indeed..
[12:58] <enyc> bzimage: e.g.  'tar cvjf filename.tar.bz2 directory/' to create a bzip2 (j) flag
[12:58] <bzimage> just playing with bzip2 alone.. (first time)
[12:58] <Belutz> there's something wrong with my gaim
[12:59] <Belutz> it always quit it self
[12:59] <ccooke> bzimage: remember, the Unix method is to have small tools that do one job *very* well
[12:59] <bzimage> enyc, i know tar
[12:59] <bzimage> :P
[12:59] <ccooke> and provide them interfaces so they work well together
[12:59] <enyc> bzim: well this is a modular architecture design ;-)
[12:59] <pl_ice> oki, c u later :)
[12:59] <bzimage> later
[01:00] <shunyata> Hi there did anybody successfully installed ubuntu on a VAIO VGN FS285M ?
[01:00] <Shin_Gouki>  nalioth , unfortunaly i downloaded a Programm which is only able to create a MD5 sum with a single FILE as source,
[01:00] <Shin_Gouki>  nalioth , how do i create a MD5 sum of a whole CD??
[01:00] <bzimage> enyc, i know tar (use it often) but it was the first time to fiddle with bzip2 (without tar)....
[01:00] <onkarshinde> shunyata: Is it a laptop?
[01:00] <ccooke> shunyata: I'm on a VGN-A397XP here. Not quite the same.
[01:00] <enyc> bzimage: kk
[01:00] <shunyata> onkarshinde yes it is a laptop
[01:00] <kristian> hi
[01:01] <marcin_ant> I still cannot use bitmap fonts on breezy - reconfigured fontconfig - and no luck - any ideas what else should I do to enable these fonts?
[01:01] <kristian> why i'am so cute?
[01:01] <enyc> bzimage: note, that bzip2 'default' is -9 compress mode -- 900kb blocks -- i.e. highest compression, so 'j' on tar ('y' on some old versions) will use highest compress bzip2 basically
[01:02] <onkarshinde> shunyata: You can refer to http://www.linux-laptop.net/
[01:02] <intelikey> ok i resized two partitions. one was fat32  the other ext2.   the fat32 went smothly, but the "linux native" partition after resizing; can't be mounted because fsck craps out with "partition size and superblock count don't match"     any solution short of mkfs?
[01:02] <shunyata> I wan't to buy a new laptop this sony seemed nice but i wan't to make shure i won't spend days configuring stuff
[01:02] <bodisan> hello, I tried to install VLC with apt-get install vlc libdvdcss2, and it says this: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[01:02] <bodisan>   vlc: Depends: dbus-1 (>= 0.23.4) but it is not going to be installed
[01:02] <bodisan>        Depends: libhal0 (>= 0.4.0) but it is not going to be installed
[01:02] <bodisan>        Depends: libmodplug0 (>= 1:0.7-1) but it is not going to be installed
[01:02] <bodisan> E: Broken packages
[01:02] <bodisan> how can I install it?
[01:02] <Shin_Gouki> hi , everyone: i need to verify my burned ubuntu 5.04 image, : how do i create a MD5 sum of a CDR and against which value i need to compare it?
[01:03] <enyc> shin: first, dont create the MD5 sum -- read the online copy of the MD5 from a mirror of ubuntu cd image
[01:03] <Shin_Gouki> i did
[01:03] <Shin_Gouki> it was fine
[01:03] <Shin_Gouki> same
[01:03] <Shin_Gouki> someone here told me i need to create an MD5 opf the burned CD?
[01:03] <enyc> shin: if you 'finalized' the cd recording (normally the default) -- then  "dd if=/dev/cdrom | md5sum" usually works
[01:03] <ccooke> intelikey: how did you resize it?
[01:03] <onkarshinde> bodisan: what vlc version? which ubuntu? breezy or hoary?
[01:03] <enyc> shin: but you may need to use 'hdc' 'scd0' instead of 'cdrom' depending what the cd device is
[01:04] <intelikey> ccooke mcc
[01:04] <Shin_Gouki> ^^ ur SOO funny im on win 9x :P BUT I WANT LINUX
[01:04] <bodisan> breezy, vlc 0.8.1 or 0.8.2, I don't know for sure
[01:04] <enyc> shin: you may be able to install 'cygwin' and use dd / md5sum  that way
[01:05] <bodisan> that's what I found on their webpage
[01:05] <marcin_ant> shunyata, you can take a look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=63
[01:05] <enyc> shin: but im not sure what the relevant device-node is under win32
[01:05] <ccooke> intelikey: what's that?
[01:05] <bzimage> win 9x.. fun
[01:05] <Shin_Gouki> see i simply want to install ubuntu
[01:05] <bzimage> :P
[01:05] <marcin_ant> shunyata, and search for 'sony' to take a look if other ppl have problems with this
[01:05] <bzimage> BSOD
[01:05] <onkarshinde> bodisan: Are you installing vlc that you got from its homepage?
[01:05] <shunyata> marcin_ant : thx
[01:05] <intelikey> ccooke mcc = mandrake control center
[01:05] <Shin_Gouki> i dled 50.4 (md5 ok) i burned it, but while buting it said: CRC Error System haolted :/
[01:06] <bodisan> on its webpage there is nothing to download, just the apt-get package
[01:06] <ccooke> intelikey: ah, righ
[01:06] <ccooke> intelikey: hmm. I don't know what that uses to do resizing.
[01:06] <bodisan> Quote from their website:  For a normal install, do:
[01:06] <bodisan>    # apt-get update
[01:06] <bodisan>    # apt-get install vlc libdvdcss2
[01:06] <marcin_ant> shunyata, although some problems with laptops are not ubuntu specific
[01:06] <intelikey> ccooke now it cant be mounted.   partition size and inode count in superblock do not match.
[01:06] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: use your md5 program on your burnt cd-r
[01:06] <onkarshinde> bodisan: May be you should use synaptic (the GUI to apt-get). It will give more clear idea. And are you sure other packages are up to date?
[01:07] <bzimage> bodisan, doesn't it install libdvdcss2 automatic
[01:07] <bzimage> ?
[01:07] <marcin_ant> shunyata, personally I had two laptops - one well... no name - and there everything was ok
[01:07] <bzimage> (dependency)
[01:07] <ccooke> intelikey: it sounds like the resize didn't complete properly.
[01:07] <ccooke> intelikey: if fsck can't handle it...
[01:07] <marcin_ant> shunyata, and another was asus m6 and there are problems with acpi on this machine
[01:07] <bodisan> I (think) I updated my other packages yesterday
[01:07] <ccooke> intelikey: I'm not sure what you could really do.
, im too dumb for this plz explain me which program i can use with win9x to do so, PLZ!
[01:07] <snorks> Does ext3 get fragmented? To what extent, and what is a nice defrag tool? :-)
[01:08] <bodisan> with Update Manager, right?
[01:08] <marcin_ant> shunyata, dmesg says that this laptop is supported and then... shows errors when trying to recognize battery
[01:08] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: i thought you went to freewarehome.com and got one?
[01:08] <ccooke> intelikey: you might want to try running resize2fs on it
[01:08] <bzimage> hmm.... today i got like 234 MB of updates
[01:08] <inc|freaky> is there any way i can change the default filemanager? because it always opens konqueror when i insert CDs i want it to open krusader :)
[01:08] <bzimage> (yesterday it was just approx 85MB)
[01:08] <marcin_ant> shunyata, so it is pretty hard to say if everything will work
[01:09] <shunyata> marcin_ant : well i can (sadly) always reverse to Win*** if it does'nt work
[01:09] <bodisan> yesterday I got about 370 packages, 250mb, today 112 packages, 61 mb  :D I'll update them and try to install vlc again... and come back if I still can't, thanks a lot!
[01:09] <intelikey> i'm sure that is the util called by mcc ccooke, but i'll play with it on the cli a bit.
[01:09] <onkarshinde> anyone here used jigdo?
[01:09] <marcin_ant> shunyata, almost everything should work without problems
[01:09] <nalioth> onkarshinde: torrents are better, i've never had luck with jigdo
[01:09] <marcin_ant> shunyata, but you can have troubles with memory card readers and acpi
[01:09] <shunyata> macin_ant : but battery is quite important on a laptop :)
[01:10] <onkarshinde> nalioth: Thanks
[01:10] <marcin_ant> shunyata, well it will work but it won't show you it's status
[01:10] <shunyata> marcin : there is a fairly good offer with 1 Gb Ram on this laptop at the moment  :D
[01:10] <bodisan> oh... and everytime I update the packages, it says that I have a problem... something about it not being able to stat somthing... what's that all about?
[01:11] <bzimage> so ugly brown/yellowish
[01:11] <marcin_ant> shunyata, well sony laptops are pricey in my country - so I wouldn't buy one
[01:11] <bzimage> (after installing lilo.. it's gone.. yay)
[01:11] <marcin_ant> shunyata, and sony is known as not open source friendly
[01:12] <shunyata> marcin_ant : ya i guess i thinkpad would work without pb
[01:12] <marcin_ant> shunyata, they are always trying to make money from their proprietary stuff (see - memory stick)
[01:12] <intelikey> hmmm i always install lilo when installing the system...
[01:12] <shunyata> marcin_ant, i agree with that
[01:12] <marcin_ant> shunyata, so I'm not sure if everything will work
[01:13] <bzimage> 01011011
[01:13] <marcin_ant> shunyata, but as I said earlier - there is no problem with drivers for cpu/video/hdd etc (fundamental things)
[01:14] <shunyata> macrin_ant i'm looking for something that could replace my powerbook, wireless is not supported by linux at the moment :(
[01:14] <bzimage> hmm.. mister corleone
[01:14] <bzimage> :P
[01:14] <snorks> Does ext3 get fragmented? To what extent, and what is a nice defrag tool? :-)
[01:14] <marcin_ant> shunyata, but you can expect some problems with memory card readers (in my asus sd card reader doesn't work and will not work - ricoh refused to give their specifications to linux ppl)
[01:14] <DarkFame> snorks: not really
[01:14] <marcin_ant> shunyata, wireless nic
[01:14] <raymond> yes
[01:14] <nalioth> snorks: ext2/3 defragments as it writes
[01:15] <marcin_ant> shunyata, nic's are supported in almost 100% on linux
[01:15] <bigfoot1> how can I add qmake to my path?
[01:15] <shunyata> marcin_ant, i had the same pb on asus also : sold it
[01:15] <snorks> Ok great
[01:15] <nalioth> snorks: avg fragmentation on ext2/3 is >%5
[01:15] <bigfoot1> how can i add anything to my path?
[01:15] <snorks> <
[01:15] <nalioth> bigfoot1: install it using apt-get
[01:15] <bigfoot1> nalioth, don't i already have it?
[01:15] <marcin_ant> shunyata, there are drivers from intel (which supports linux pretty well)
[01:15] <nalioth> bigfoot1: do you?
[01:15] <bigfoot1> nalioth, how do i do apt-get in the console.
[01:15] <ndlovu> okay, seems my firefox is working again. thanks for the suggestions.
[01:15] <bigfoot1> nalioth, i don't know.
[01:15] <shunyata> marcin_ant that is why i'm quite carefull in choosing a laptop right now since i prefer to avoid any ms software
[01:15] <nalioth> bigfoot1: open a terminal and type "which qmake"
[01:15] <marcin_ant> shunyata, and if you don't have specific driver for linux you can use..... windows driver with ndiswrapper
[01:16] <bigfoot1> how can i prevent x-chat from seperating tabs when I copy text via Control-C?
[01:16] <marcin_ant> shunyata, sure
[01:16] <demantik> just installed hoary on a centrino laptop.....normal network works, but not intel proset...anybody know how to get it working?
[01:16] <ndlovu> any ideas why the main hoary repository is on firefox 1.0.7? I thought it was only in backports, and hoary was set at 1.0.2? or am I generally confused?
[01:16] <bigfoot1> nalioth, nothing happened when i did "which qmake"
[01:17] <bigfoot1> nalioth, i thought qmake came standard with ubuntu.
[01:17] <student_> rowel macas
[01:17] <marcin_ant> shunyata, afaik ibm laptops are known to be supported in 100%
[01:17] <intelikey> bigfoot1 dont use ^C just highlight it and where you want it pasted middle click (both mouse buttons on two button mice)
[01:17] <marcin_ant> shunyata, but just take a look at these forums
[01:18] <marcin_ant> shunyata, and use google on specific model
[01:18] <shunyata> marcin_ant thx I'll try that
[01:18] <marcin_ant> shunyata, that's all
[01:18] <bigfoot1> intelikey, yeah. what about those who don't want to move from keyboard to mouse?
[01:18] <bigfoot1> intelikey, move their hand from kb to mouse.
[01:19] <demantik> ??
[01:19] <bigfoot1> guys, does qmake come standard with ubuntu 5.04?
[01:19] <intelikey> use bx ?
[01:19] <root__> g
[01:19] <bigfoot1> intelikey, what's bx?
[01:19] <root__> Hello
[01:19] <intelikey> irc client
[01:19] <root__> Please
[01:19] <bigfoot1> how do i install qmake via console?
[01:20] <root__> one question...
[01:20] <intelikey> apt-get qmake
[01:20] <intelikey> apt-get install qmake
[01:20] <intelikey> apt-cache search qmake
[01:20] <bigfoot1> how do i know what the filename is?
[01:21] <bigfoot1> how do i find out more about the files after doing a apt-cache search?
[01:21] <intelikey> apt-cache info qmake
[01:21] <snorks> hi ok
[01:21] <intelikey> man apt-get ;man apt-cache
[01:25] <intelikey> bigfoot1 "man"   man is your friend.    "man man "
[01:25] <jpfarias> hi!
[01:26] <jpfarias> does anyone know how to enable a second monitor on a laptop?
[01:26] <bigfoot1> should i upgrade to breezy now, or should i wait until official day?
[01:26] <nalioth> bigfoot1: either way. we are close to  Preview Release anyway
[01:27] <mjr> bigfoot1, depends. If you don't mind it not being fully supported and are prepared to report any issues so that the release will be perfect, go ahead ;)
[01:27] <Dalkus> my cd drives don't seem to mount themselves. I put in a cd and I can't read it
[01:27] <Dalkus> what /dev devcies are normally for cddrives?
[01:27] <ccooke> nalioth: we're past the preview release...
[01:28] <bigfoot1> mjr, i'm guessing whatever I will be reporting would have been reported already. I'm no power user.
[01:28] <bigfoot1> any zoto users here?
[01:29] <catfox> does anybody here have an iRiver H10 mp3 player? i've just got one, but i'm wondering if i need to use their software to add songs to it
[01:29] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, yes i got this one : http://www.midwavi.com/downloads.htm
[01:29] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, its calleds MD5 Checker
[01:29] <Dalkus> how can I mount my dvd drive?
[01:29] <enyc> catf: a friend of mine fgot a good  iriver player for playing OGG/Vorbis (and some mp3)
[01:29] <intelikey> dalkus    if ide /dev/hd*   if scsi  /dev/sd*
[01:29] <Dalkus> thanks
[01:29] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: good show!
[01:29] <enyc> catf: they said they could jsut copy the standard m3u playlists onto it .. and it just worked
[01:30] <alienacion> server irc.tin.it
[01:30] <BiSK-8> hello
[01:31] <demantik> ~needing Intel ProSet help~
[01:31] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, what do u mean ?? is the program inapropriate?
[01:32] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, ups hers the link, the other one was only the company: http://216.40.227.17/cgi-bin/mysql/dl.pl?dbname=FH&table=System_Utilities&ID=1992
[01:32] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: i mean you have your program. now be productive
[01:33] <bigfoot1> anybody here using zoto?
[01:33] <Carpe_Libertatem> ^_^
[01:33] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth , i tried, i can create with this programms MD5 sums from A SINGLE FILE, i dont know how to create a MD5 from a BURNT CD..?
[01:33] <Dalkus> how can I link a directory?
[01:34] <IceDC571> is there a list of wireless cards that work out of the box for breezy?
[01:34] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: is it a console program or a gui?
[01:34] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, GUI
[01:34] <intelikey> Dalkus "ln"     man ln
[01:34] <Dalkus> ty
[01:34] <intelikey> that is LN
[01:35] <_snow> yo, i've just installed ubuntu, did apt-get install lame, but still i can't play mp3. says i miss codecs
[01:35] <intelikey> sometimes l is not clear if it is 1 or l
[01:36] <p0windah> _snow: gstreamer0.8-mad
[01:36] <intelikey> !mp3
[01:36] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[01:36] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: it doesnt allow you to check md5s? that is what you need
[01:39] <_snow> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Ressursen midlertidig utilgjengelig)
[01:39] <_snow> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[01:39] <_snow> snow@balance:~$
[01:39] <p0windah> use sudo _snow
[01:39] <_snow> I do
[01:39] <p0windah> stop using it in another terminal or close synaptic
[01:40] <_snow> ahh, i had synaptic running, works now=)
[01:41] <demantik> snaptic is gay :P
[01:41] <_snow> heh, it do all my updates=)
[01:41] <_snow> but, theres is like 20 new updates every day
[01:42] <BiSK-8> can any1 help me, i just insalled breezy and i ran the pppoeconf, but every time i log on i have 2 re run the cammand 2 access the internet, is there anything i can do?
[01:42] <Carpe_Libertatem> All right - I have a problem. I went to reboot after updating Ubuntu, and wanted to get into Windows, the entry for Windows is gone in GRUB.
[01:42] <DarkFame> Carpe_Libertatem, if the entry is gone.. the partition is probably gone too. did you do something bad? ;)
[01:43] <_snow> whats the best mp3 player, i'm running totem 1.2.0 now
[01:43] <DarkFame> xmms
[01:43] <Carpe_Libertatem> DarkFame, partition is still there. :-P
[01:43] <DarkFame> Carpe_Libertatem, tell grub to redetect
[01:43] <Carpe_Libertatem> DarkFame, and I do that how? :-)
[01:44] <intelikey> xmms may be a really good player.  but it sure is an ugly enterface !
[01:44] <daejavu> need some help with ATI RADEON Driver Installation
[01:44] <Carpe_Libertatem> intelikey, I agree
[01:44] <Carpe_Libertatem> But, there are skins for it.
[01:44] <DarkFame> Carpe_Libertatem, or you can edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:44] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, sry now im back , yes it allows
[01:45] <intelikey> will they resize it.   last time i tried to use it it was so small i couldn't read anything on it.
[01:45] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth,now what doi need to verify??
[01:45] <daejavu> i got R9600 , used Synaptic to install fglrx-control and xorg-driver-fglrx .. but no Direct Acceleration :S !! Please help
[01:45] <BiSK-8> can any1 help me, i just insalled breezy and i ran the pppoeconf, but every time i log on i have 2 re run the cammand 2 access the internet, is there anything i can do?
[01:45] <Carpe_Libertatem> DarkFame, how do I get it to redetect?
[01:46] <deFrysk> !tell deFrysk about opera
[01:46] <ColonelKernel> nvidia and nvidia alone
[01:46] <ColonelKernel> unless newegg puts that x800XL on sale for 159 again
[01:46] <ColonelKernel> im all over that
[01:46] <daejavu> need some help with ATI RADEON Driver Installation
[01:46] <daejavu> i got R9600 , used Synaptic to install fglrx-control and xorg-driver-fglrx .. but no Direct Acceleration :S !! Please help
[01:47] <BiSK-8> can anybody help?
[01:47] <DarkFame> Carpe_Libertatem, man grub-install
[01:48] <daejavu> BiSK-8,  whats the prob ?
[01:48] <DarkFame> Carpe_Libertatem, but the easiest solution would be editing /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:48] <intelikey> BiSK-8 we're not ignoring you.    i just can't help with networking.
[01:48] <enyc> bisk: hrrrm im not sure... be aware that breezy is not released as 'stable' yet..  does the same problem happen in hoary?
[01:48] <jpfarias> hey
[01:48] <DarkFame> what does your partition table look like btw? fdisk -l
[01:48] <jpfarias> is there a way to setup a second monitor for a laptop?
[01:49] <jpfarias> I can setup it on windows
[01:49] <jpfarias> but I dunno how to do it on linux
[01:49] <intelikey> jpfarias yes.
[01:49] <BiSK-8> daejavu: i just insalled breezy and i ran the pppoeconf, but every time i log on i have 2 re run the cammand 2 access the internet, is there anything i can do?
[01:49] <DarkFame> jpfarias, yes
[01:49] <Carpe_Libertatem> DarkFame, ok, I have Windows XP SP2, and it's on /dev/hda - what would I put in?
[01:49] <jpfarias> [DarkFame]  intelikey, can you help on that?
[01:50] <enyc> BiSK-8: hrrrm im not sure... be aware that breezy is not released as 'stable' yet..  does the same problem happen in hoary?
[01:50] <intelikey> jpfarias have you searched the web for duel monitor howto's ?
[01:50] <ColonelKernel> wow - openoffice2 is NICE!
[01:50] <jpfarias> a paste showing the config of xorg would be helpful
[01:50] <BiSK-8> enyc, nope
[01:50] <BiSK-8> it doesnt
[01:51] <Shin_Gouki> Hello! I downloaded ubuntu 5.04, MD5 sum on my HD same as on Website, i burned it to CDR, but when booting error:" CRC Error  System halted", ideas? ^_~
[01:51] <enyc> BiSK-8: then talk to person(s) in ubuntu related to dealing with the new packages and cooperate with them r.e. getting the problem sorted out for breezy-release ;-)
[01:51] <BiSK-8> argh
[01:51] <enyc> shin: try reading the CD/md5sum and seeing if that works (not botted from the cd)
[01:51] <BiSK-8> so nothing 2 do i guess
[01:52] <BiSK-8> does it happen 2 u?
[01:52] <enyc> BiSK: I dont use pppoe ;-)
[01:52] <BiSK-8> then how do u get on 2 the internet?
[01:52] <enyc> shin: i.e. 'dd if=/dev/hdc | md5sum' sort of thing
[01:52] <enyc> BiSK: usually using ethernet
[01:52] <Carpe_Libertatem> DarkFame, are you alive there buddy?
[01:52] <Shin_Gouki> enyc , im with win9x
[01:52] <enyc> BiSK: but not using PPP over Ethernet
[01:52] <enyc> Shin: then use somethign else to find the CD Md5sum or install 'cygwin' ...
[01:53] <DarkFame> jpfarias, http://www.wahlau.org/ubuntu_hoary_thinkpad_t43_and_xorg_dual_head_display
[01:53] <BiSK-8> enyc, how can i do that?, all i want is 2 be able 2 get onto the internet
[01:53] <Shin_Gouki> not again ur cygwin stuff i want to install FULL linux ^^ not partly in windows ^^
[01:53] <jpfarias> thanls
[01:53] <Carpe_Libertatem> Shin_Gouki, I can possibly send you an Ubuntu CD :-P
[01:53] <jpfarias> thanks
[01:53] <enyc> shin: you can use cygwin  to  run 'md5sum' and 'dd' to check if the cd recording / cd-drive is the problem ;-)
[01:54] <bodisan> Hello again, I just updated my packages, and tryed to install VLC (Video Lan Client) through Synaptic, and I get the same error: vlc:
[01:54] <bodisan>  Depends: dbus-1 but it is not going to be installed
[01:54] <bodisan>  Depends: libhal0 but it is not going to be installed
[01:54] <bodisan>  Depends: libmodplug0 but it is not going to be installed
[01:54] <bodisan>  Depends: wxvlc but it is not going to be installed
[01:54] <enyc> shin:  What you can do, is register to have a free ubuntu Breezy CD posted to you, when Breezy is released next month
[01:54] <Shin_Gouki> i run P 233 Mhz 128ram hand have 45 mb free diskspace is cygwin good idea??
[01:54] <enyc> shin: hrrm not with that little space ;-)
[01:54] <ColonelKernel> enyc, im gonna do that, but jut so I can have an official copy.
[01:54] <Shin_Gouki> see ^^
[01:55] <enyc> shin: besides, if you ahev so little space, how do you intend to run linux?
[01:55] <Shin_Gouki> Im asking again: how can i very a burned ubuntu image thats located on a CDR but WITH Win9x
[01:55] <Shin_Gouki> verify
[01:55] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: point your md5 program at the cd-r
[01:55] <enyc> shin: using md5sum and dd under cygwin on win9x ;-)
[01:55] <intelikey> Shin_Gouki how did you burn an iso with no free disk space ??????
[01:55] <Shin_Gouki> win9x is better then u think :P
[01:56] <Carpe_Libertatem> Shin_Gouki... err... is it?
[01:56] <BiSK-8> enyc: how can i get internet onto breezy without using pppoe?
[01:56] <pl_ice> hej, any one tried using gpsdrive or other gps software?
[01:56] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth , finally
[01:56] <enyc> inte: no extra diskspace needed, the cd recording program jsut records' the iso file to cd
[01:56] <enyc> bisk: depends on your upstream/internet-connection
[01:56] <Shin_Gouki> how can i tell u the name of my programm? will that be usefull?
[01:56] <intelikey> Shin_Gouki must not be..... it didn't work  :)
[01:56] <enyc> bisk:  i.e. are you using an Ethernet card connected to  a  cablemodem system on a network that requires you to PPPoE in ?
[01:56] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, how can i tell u the name of my programm? will that be usefull?
[01:57] <Shin_Gouki> naloith , the MD5 programm?
[01:57] <Chambers`> hi guys, can i manually change the resolution and restart? isn't it some file like xfree86.conf or something?
[01:57] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: it should be "md5" if not, use win-f to find anything with a md5 in it
[01:57] <nalioth> Chambers`: no need to restart
[01:57] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Chambers` about fixres
[01:58] <Knelix> installing Hoary now...
[01:58] <BiSK-8> enyc: ive got a router and and an eth0 card on my motherboard, they are attached via ethernet cable, what can i do?
[01:58] <Carpe_Libertatem> nalioth, can you tell me how to add Windows XP to /boot/grub/menu.lst? It got deleted somehow. o_o
[01:58] <pl_ice> hm, is it only me who 'likes' maps ?  :) anyone?
[01:58] <enyc> BiSK: what sort of 'router' ?
[01:58] <nalioth> Carpe_Libertatem: have you been to the wiki? i'm not familiar with windows machines
[01:58] <enyc> BiSK: do you mean a consumer-quality NAPT translation router?
[01:58] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth , i found
[01:59] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth , now what file i need to select to verify the CDR??
[01:59] <BiSK-8> enyc: i gota an adsl usb/ehternet modem
[01:59] <BiSK-8> got*
[01:59] <enyc> sorry on phone
[01:59] <Carpe_Libertatem> nalioth, well, also, for some reason I don't have an entry for Boot settings under the "System"  menu
 inte: no extra diskspace needed, the cd recording program... <--- from where pray tell ?   off the internet dirrect to cdr ?    and if the iso is on the hd then why not delete it and have 700m of free disk space to use to fix what ever......   but never mind....
[01:59] <Carpe_Libertatem> And I did about an hour ago.
[01:59] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: if it's a gui md5 proggy, point it at the cd-r
[02:00] <Chambers`> what file do i need to change for resolution?  I tried the gui screen res changer but it keeps reverting back.  I want to bring it down to 1024x768
[02:00] <nalioth> Carpe_Libertatem: you lost me
[02:00] <XHK> Why my sound is always muted, when i startup gnome?
[02:00] <nalioth> Chambers`: ubotu sent you some info you may find interesting
[02:00] <Chambers`> oh..heheh, thanks :)
[02:00] <bodisan> I can't install vlc (video lan client) in any way that I know... please help!
[02:00] <dipnlik> hi all. I want to test ubuntu at work but I can't install it and my PC doesn't have a CD drive. Is it possible to make a boot floppy to load an .iso file on my HD?
[02:00] <Chambers`> didn't notice
[02:00] <Chambers`> :D
[02:01] <_snow> how do i change programs to open different files, example, i've downloaded xmms, and i want mp3s to be opened in xmms instead of totem!
[02:01] <Knelix> dipnlik: Maybe you can install via LAN?
[02:01] <BiSK-8> sry
[02:01] <snorks> right-click, open with other application
[02:01] <BiSK-8> im bak
[02:01] <nalioth> dipnlik: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto
[02:01] <BiSK-8> enyc: u were saying?
[02:01] <snorks> and/or assign it to other application by looking around in preferences
[02:02] <dipnlik> Knelix: maybe, but i can't risk my working windows computer, at least for now
[02:02] <dipnlik> nalioth: will look there, thanks
[02:02] <Knelix> dipnlik: The link looks pretty promising.
[02:02] <pl_ice> hej, if i just installed ATI drivers, i can just restart X ? can i? not the whole box ...
[02:03] <ssam> \join #f-spot
[02:03] <_snow> snorks, ahh, easy=)
[02:03] <ssam> oops wrong slash
[02:03] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, it seems i can only select a single file? the GUI dooes not give an option to access the CD as O N E File, so?
[02:04] <bimberi> !defaultapp
[02:04] <ubotu> To change the default app for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties, then the "Open With" tab and change the setting
[02:04] <bimberi> _snow: ^^ might work for you
[02:04] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: then you should find one that does
[02:04] <BiSK-8> enyc: what should i do?
[02:05] <XHK> Why my sound is always muted, when i startup gnome?
[02:05] <n00bster> I Just Installed  - wine & webmin, And Wonderd how to Execute Them .. ?
[02:05] <Knelix> nalioth: One could also conceivably install Ubuntu off of a flash drive, no?
[02:05] <Xappe> pl_ice: yes. log out and do ctrl+alt+backspace
[02:05] <nalioth> Knelix: with a large enough flash drive, yes ubuntu works
[02:05] <MMXGN> does anybody know how can I change gcc to use version 3.4 and not 4 on breezy?
[02:06] <nalioth> MMXGN: why would you want to do that?
[02:06] <Knelix> nalioth: So couldn't dipnlik boot off a flash drive, provided the computer has a USB port and can boot off a flash drive...
[02:06] <MMXGN> nalioth, trying to make my ati card work with 3d
[02:06] <nalioth> Knelix: dipnlik would have to get ubuntu on the flash drive first
[02:06] <dipnlik> Knelix: but it looks like it would boot the CD from the floppy, but I don't have a CD drive on my PC. Will look into the floppy files to see if I can change something there, but not sure (yet)
[02:06] <MMXGN> and yes, i've tried every other way
[02:07] <pl_ice> Xappe , thnx
[02:07] <dipnlik> nalioth: i need to make the floppy boot up the iso on my HD
[02:07] <nalioth> MMXGN: in the terminal you are using, put this export "CC=/usr/bin/gcc-X.X" and anything in that terminal afterward will use the gcc version you select
[02:07] <enyc> Bisk: I was on phone!
[02:07] <BiSK-8> re
[02:07] <enyc> Bisk: I was on phone!
[02:08] <BiSK-8> ok
[02:08] <BiSK-8> sry
[02:08] <enyc> BiSK: if you haev a true NAPT router comnsumer-gadget, you should just be able to get an IP addreess via DHCP and have it 'work'
[02:08] <Knelix> dipnlik: Does it have USB, and can it boot off of it? Isn't it possible to expand the ISO onto the drive?
[02:08] <intelikey> dipnlik loadlin maybe ?
[02:08] <benkong2> how can I tell if I have ubuntu breezy or edubuntu? somehow during one of the update notifier sessions I got an edubuntu login screen and desktop. My sources.list all say breezy.
[02:08] <enyc> I suspect you have a ''dsl modem'' type gadget which transltes pppoe into pppoa
[02:08] <nalioth> benkong2: open a terminal and type "lsb_release -a"
[02:08] <intelikey> benkong2 uname -a
[02:08] <apokryphos> benkong2: edubuntu still uses the breezy repos
[02:09] <BiSK-8> enyc: im not getting anything ue saying, can u tell me how 2 configure it via dhcp?
[02:09] <Chambers`> n00bster: Webmin runs in the background
[02:09] <nalioth> intelikey: try my suggestion
[02:09] <intelikey> k i'm lagging
[02:09] <apokryphos> nalioth: that doesn't really work, as ubuntu and edubuntu don't conflict
[02:09] <apokryphos> (hence, you can have both running)
[02:09] <MMXGN> nalioth, doesnt work
[02:09] <MMXGN> when i gcc --version
[02:09] <benkong2> nalioth; the lsb_release command says breezy development branch so I guess it's ok
[02:09] <MMXGN> it says its still 4.0.2
[02:10] <Chambers`> n00bster: connect to webmin by going to another machine on the network and open a browser window, then browse to the ip of the machine that has webmin installed
[02:10] <dipnlik> Knelix: don't have a flash drive. How can I exapand the ISO?
[02:10] <benkong2> thanks intelikey and apokryphos for responding also.
[02:10] <apokryphos> benkong2: you can still have all of edubuntu stuff installed on your ubuntu, so it's not a case of having either/or
[02:10] <dipnlik> intelikey: sorry, but what exactly is loadlin?
[02:10] <BooZee> hello
[02:10] <BooZee> I have a wierd problam
[02:10] <intelikey> a way to boot linux from a running dos
[02:10] <nalioth> MMXGN: then you didnt do it right.
[02:11] <snorks> And what might that be?
[02:11] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, i did make a snapshot from the md5 software: http://chrono.myownworld.de/pic/Image1.gif could u plz talke a view?
[02:11] <BooZee> well,
[02:11] <benkong2> apokryphos; ok thanks. I think I want to try kbuntu also so I'm off to try and install KDE stuff
[02:11] <BooZee> I reinstalled ubuntu on my comp
[02:11] <dipnlik> Knelix: i remember having some info on editing grub files to load ISOs, so I think a floppy with grub can be enough for me
[02:11] <MMXGN> i did it, anyway
[02:11] <apokryphos> benkong2: excellent idea, IMO. Just sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[02:11] <Chambers`> this is funny, i'm connected to my winxp box at home through rdp and running ubuntu on vmware
[02:11] <MMXGN> done an alias gcc="gcc-3.4" and worked for me
[02:11] <MMXGN> thanx anyway
[02:11] <nalioth> MMXGN: in the terminal you are using, put this export "CC=/usr/bin/gcc-X.X  <<<< the X's need to reflect the version of gcc you want to run
[02:11] <BooZee> and now (after the reinstallation) I can't change the resolution of my screen
[02:11] <BiSK-8> enyc, may i query u?
[02:11] <benkong2> apokryphos; sudo aptitude?? what's that?
[02:11] <MMXGN> nalioth, i know i did it
[02:12] <Knelix> dipnlik: But how will you boot if you have no CD drive?
[02:12] <dipnlik> intelikey: wow, sounds good, will look up info on loadlin too
[02:12] <apokryphos> benkong2: another front-end to apt
[02:12] <apokryphos> benkong2: or sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop if you like...
[02:12] <snorks> BooZee: did you get asked (during the installation) to chose which resolution to use?
[02:12] <benkong2> k
[02:12] <nalioth> benkong2: aptitude is a console frontend to apt. you may use synaptic or apt-get or whatever apt mangager you wish
[02:12] <MMXGN> nalioth, this works if it is a Makefile
[02:12] <dipnlik> Knelix: can't a floppy boot the livecd iso?
[02:12] <BooZee> snorks: nope
[02:12] <MMXGN> but what i have here is a custom make script
[02:12] <nalioth> MMXGN: it works on anything you run in that terminal (until you close the terminal)
[02:12] <apokryphos> benkong2: ...or just select it in Synaptic of course
[02:12] <benkong2> wow I like terminal stuff best so let me play with aptitude
[02:13] <snorks> BooZee: ok. anyway, you can chose which resolutions to use in your xorg.conf file
[02:13] <MMXGN> but gcc --version shows 4.0.2
[02:13] <MMXGN> -.-
[02:13] <mortenpet> can anyone help me too install java? i cant find it in synaptic...
[02:13] <snorks> BooZee: also be sure to set the horiz and vert refresh rates of yoru screen
[02:13] <MMXGN> when i do export "CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4"
[02:13] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, did u read me?
[02:13] <nalioth> mortenpet: hoary or breezy?
[02:13] <benkong2> I heard of another package manager but I forget what the name is. some say it is the next best thing. I am......err having a senior moment //)
[02:14] <snorks> BooZee: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:14] <n00bster> OK, but how do i run wine ?
[02:14] <pl_ice> ^^ ATI works
[02:14] <bimberi> benkong2: autopackage?
[02:14] <BiSK-8> apokryphos: maybee u can help me, how can i get internet onto breezy?
[02:14] <Chambers`> benkong2: you mean the front-end to the frontend that is synaptic?
[02:14] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: yes, one moment please
[02:14] <BooZee> snorks: well, I can change the resolution, but after selecting it there are two problems: 1) I don't have any other refresh rate then 60 (and I had 85 before the reinstall) 2) after I apply the change, the screen black out and shuts down.
[02:15] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth , thx take ur time :)
[02:15] <Chambers`> it's a frontend for synaptic
[02:15] <intelikey> dipnlik maybe but the problem is the kernel and initrd.img are getting too big to fit on a single floppy   thus it may be needful to use loadlin and a dos boot disk,  if your hardware has any special needs that may be a solution.
[02:15] <Chambers`> which in turn is a frontend for apt :P
[02:15] <benkong2> can't remember the name sorry
[02:15] <pl_ice> n00bster wine program_name  ...
[02:15] <BooZee> snorks : and after about 10 seconds it returns to 1280*1024
[02:15] <apokryphos> BiSK-8: get the Internet onto Breezy? You mean, how do you configure your Network/Internet connection you mean?
[02:15] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: select your md5sum.txt
[02:15] <snorks> BooZee: sounds like wrong rates in your xorg.conf file. if the horiz and vert values are wrong,
[02:15] <BiSK-8> apokryphos: yes
[02:15] <snorks> BooZee: 2 sec
[02:15] <BiSK-8> apokryphos: pppoeconf wont work
[02:15] <BooZee> i'll try changing the gile
[02:15] <mortenpet> nalioth hoary
[02:15] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth , ok and then?
[02:16] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: hope it works
[02:16] <snorks>         HorizSync       30-65
[02:16] <snorks>         VertRefresh     50-75
[02:16] <n00bster> sorry? can you be more specific
[02:16] <snorks> BooZee: fix that in your xorg.conf
[02:16] <snorks> BooZee: with your own screen's rates, of course
[02:16] <pl_ice> when i quit irc server ofter, it won't clear my nick from the list, then i can't use my registered nick ... is there a way to change that or something/ or its just a lag
[02:16] <n00bster> how can i open her GUI ?
[02:16] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth , if i do so both programms create an MD5 sum of the TEST file NOT of the Content within :)
[02:16] <apokryphos> BiSK-8: no idea I'm afraid; I've been lucky and always just used a router with dhcp
[02:16] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth , if i do so both programms create an MD5 sum of the TEXT file NOT of the Content within :)
[02:17] <BiSK-8> apokryphos: can u tell me how 2 configure dhcp?
[02:17] <_jason> do I need the Ubuntu Desktop package?  Instlaling totem-xine removes it... should I put it back?
[02:17] <BiSK-8> itll probably still work
[02:17] <intelikey> dipnlik for a good lesson on that, see if you can find "basic linux" on the web,  it is a distro on two 1.44m floppies.  using loadlin to boot linux from a ramdisk.
[02:17] <snorks> rofl nei
[02:17] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: i'm not very knowledgable about windows programs
[02:17] <apokryphos> BiSK-8: if you have a router... sudo dhclient will probably work
[02:17] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: i'm trying to help you the best i can, but i cant make up for shoddy windows programmers
[02:17] <BooZee> snorks: which will be 85 ? (if thats the refresh rate i want?
[02:17] <pl_ice> n00bster , if u're asking about wine, (i just joined in... ) then there is winesteup as well, o/w under shell
[02:17] <BiSK-8> apokryphos: k, ill try
[02:17] <benkong2> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop gives me an error "libgl1-xorg"
[02:18] <snorks> BooZee: it doesn't quite work like that. What screen do you have? I need brand, model, and model number thing. Like mine is Samsung Syncmaster 710N
[02:18] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth , agreed i try to find a work a round , but plz stand by ^^
[02:18] <Knelix> dipnlik: Sorry, was away. What intelikey said. Floppies are obsolete. I don't understand why the industry hasn't standardized on some flash memory type in place of the floppy.
[02:18] <benkong2> Depends: libgli-xorg but it is not going to be installed
[02:18] <snorks> BooZee: if you google for your screen, somewhere you'll find out what the horiz and vertical refresh rates of your screen are
[02:18] <BooZee> snorks: MAG XJ700T
[02:18] <dipnlik> intelikey: ok, thanks a lot for the info.
[02:18] <dipnlik> Knelix: old pcs, they don't want to upgrade :(
[02:19] <Knelix> nalioth: Ok, installed and "enabled" the nvidia driver... do I need to restart?
[02:19] <n00bster>  no, culdent find "winesteup"
[02:19] <dipnlik> Knelix: only one pc on the network has a CD drive
[02:19] <Knelix> dipnlik: I understand.
[02:19] <n00bster> i' have instaled it from Synaptic
[02:19] <benkong2> is there a command that satisfies all dependencies with the kubuntu install?
[02:19] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: get this one: http://www.pc-tools.net/win32/md5sums/
[02:19] <dipnlik> Knelix: probably they don't want us bringing our own CDs with non-work stuff
[02:20] <pl_ice> n00bster , winesetup helps just in setup, to run programs $ wine program.exe
[02:20] <nalioth> benkong2: the one apokryphos sent you does
[02:20] <benkong2> k
[02:20] <dipnlik> rebooting, thanks again Knelix and intelikey
[02:20] <Knelix> dipnlik: Hmm. Have you talked to your boss about trying out Ubuntu.. Maybe he/she will be up to the idea and give you some tools to preview/install it.
[02:21] <dipnlik> Knelix: told them last wek about it
[02:21] <dipnlik> Knelix: week*
[02:21] <n00bster> but issent .EXE is windows file extention ??
[02:21] <Knelix> dipnlik: Naw, sorry I couldn't be of more help. Just throwing out possible ideas. I'm a newbie here too. :-)
[02:21] <dipnlik> Knelix: they said "they would give me an answer on wednesday"
[02:21] <dipnlik> ok, c ya
[02:22] <pl_ice> n00bster yes, wine 'runs' windows programs, that what u wanted isn't?
[02:22] <Knelix> dipnlik: Nest Weds or the one that passed?
[02:22] <Knelix> *Next
[02:22] <n00bster> you did not understand me, i just want to open WINE ITSERLF ?!!!
[02:22] <intelikey> it is possable to install a linux system via floppies only. no network no cdrom.    takes a while but can be done.    install on a clean partition some place, customize then make a tgz out of the whole partition,  copy to floppies in chunkes and move it to the box without cd/net    "and yes i have done it."
[02:22] <snorks> Yes
[02:22] <Chambers`> n00bster: dude, you need something like winetools then
[02:22] <n00bster> ghghgg, whay the hell it so hurd? evry little thing in linux !!!
[02:23] <Chambers`> which is a frontend for wine
[02:23] <Chambers`> wine alone has no gui
[02:23] <pl_ice> n00bster , can u explain? wine is just under console, no GUI
[02:23] <BooZee> snorks: k, found it. and changed in the file
[02:23] <Chambers`> jeez, even I knew that and I'm a n00b :P
[02:23] <BooZee> snorks: what now? just try again to change the resolution?
[02:23] <Chambers`> and of all distro's, ubuntu is def the easiest for me
[02:24] <benkong2> hey folks synaptic says libgl1-mesa and -dri and ubuntu-desktop as well as x-window-system-core will be removed if I install kubuntu. I want to keep my gnome stuff. Is that the only option one or the other?
[02:24] <Knelix> Do I need to restart to enable the nvidia drivers?
[02:24] <apokryphos> Knelix: restart X only, yes
[02:24] <snorks> BooZee: I think you might need to restart X
[02:24] <snorks> BooZee: just reboot..
[02:24] <BooZee> k
[02:24] <Knelix> apokryphos: Okay. Thanks.
[02:24] <BooZee> thanks. be back in a sec! or a few...
[02:25] <JustinHH> hello
[02:25] <JustinHH> can i install with synaptik spkype for linux?>
[02:25] <Chambers`> wow, open office writer takes a while to come up
[02:26] <apokryphos> !skype
[02:26] <ubotu> [skype]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/, or deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free
[02:26] <apokryphos> JustinHH: that should probably work
[02:26] <JustinHH> Chambers`,  you mean open office word proccessor?
[02:27] <JustinHH> apokryphos, well i couldn-t fint it uder the name skype
[02:27] <Chambers`> nope, writer
[02:27] <Chambers`> well, same difference
[02:27] <JustinHH> apokryphos, soory i didn`t see the link
[02:27] <JustinHH> :D
[02:27] <apokryphos> JustinHH: no... check the link ubotu provided (that's what I meant).
[02:27] <apokryphos> no problem
[02:27] <malv> are logitech mice more sturdy than microsoft?
[02:27] <JustinHH> yes
[02:27] <JustinHH> ok
[02:28] <benkong2> when is breezy final due out?
[02:28] <malv> i've burned through 3 different microsoft mice within 1 year
[02:28] <Knelix> How do I restart X?
[02:28] <JustinHH> Chambers`, to me it starts in 5-8 sec
[02:28] <apokryphos> benkong2: oct 13
[02:28] <malv> Knelix: ctrl + alt + backspace
[02:28] <benkong2> Knelix; ctrl +alt +backspace
[02:28] <apokryphos> Knelix: first logout of gnome/kde
[02:28] <Chambers`> ok, anyone use evolution to set up a connecton to an Exchange Server?
[02:28] <snorks> h?
[02:28] <pitti> Is anyone here interested in translating the langauge pack upgrade notification? I already have de, fr, and fi
[02:29] <Chambers`> I pick Microsoft Exchange, then in configuration all I see is username and the forward button is greyed out
[02:29] <pl_ice> pitti , how big is it?
[02:29] <pitti> pl_ice: about 5 lines
[02:29] <Knelix> Awesome!!! Got the card working!
[02:29] <benkong2> apokryphos; thanks
[02:29] <JustinHH> is there other suport channels for ubuntu in other languages?
[02:30] <pl_ice> pitti where is it? how do i get back to u?
[02:30] <JustinHH> *are
[02:30] <JustinHH> :D
[02:30] <JustinHH> !pingme
[02:30] <ubotu> JustinHH: I don't know
[02:30] <apokryphos> JustinHH: indeed; what are you looking for?
[02:30] <JustinHH> well
[02:31] <JustinHH> i was just asking.
[02:31] <pitti> pl_ice: http://people.ubuntu.com/~pitti/langpacks/langpack-upgrade-note.txt
[02:31] <JustinHH> german
[02:31] <JustinHH> :D
[02:31] <JustinHH> i can not speak so good english
[02:31] <benkong2> anyone installed ubuntu on a G4 Mac? dual boot style
[02:31] <pitti> pl_ice: you can mail it to me or just /msg me
[02:31] <nalioth> benkong2: yes i have
[02:31] <pitti> benkong2: I have an iBook G4
[02:31] <JustinHH> got the message nalioth
[02:31] <nalioth> JustinHH: what language do you speak?
[02:31] <JustinHH> romanian german english
[02:31] <benkong2> install went ok I guess
[02:32] <JustinHH> and a bit french
[02:32] <JustinHH> :)
[02:32] <nalioth> JustinHH: #ubuntu-de, #ubuntu-ro
[02:32] <Chambers`> do i need to install something on my exchange server so Evolution can talk to it?
[02:32] <pitti> pl_ice: however, of course we already have English :-)
[02:32] <benkong2> Do we have docs for the Mac install anywhere?
[02:32] <nalioth> benkong2: there are plenty on the wiki
[02:32] <benkong2> ok off to the wiki. thanks again :-)
[02:33] <pl_ice> pitti  where u want me posted it to? (in Polish ;)
[02:33] <az[a] zel> hey, when I try copying from my DVD drive, my system performance goes to hell (jerky mouse), but both my hard disk and DVD drive are in UDMA mode according to hdparm. what's going on?
[02:33] <pl_ice> az[a] zel turn ur dma on
[02:33] <pitti> pl_ice: just /msg me or mail to martin.pitt@ubuntu.com
[02:34] <pl_ice> oki, but tomorrow, couse it's dark on this 'side' :D
[02:35] <az[a] zel> pl_ice, but, hdparm reports my drive as operating in UDMA2 mode
[02:35] <pl_ice> az[a] zel does it say it's dma on?
[02:35] <BiSK-8> lo again
[02:35] <az[a] zel> pl_ice, DMA: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 udma0 udma1 *udma2
[02:36] <az[a] zel> pl_ice, presumably the star means udma2 is on and working
[02:36] <snorks> BooZee: sup?
[02:36] <BooZee> works as a charm!
[02:36] <snorks> haha yes
[02:36] <BooZee> thanks!
[02:36] <snorks> Great!
[02:36] <JustinHH> when i try to install skype this message appears: skype:
[02:36] <JustinHH>   Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>=3:3.3.3.2) but 3:3.3.3-7ubuntu3 is to be installed
[02:36] <pl_ice> az[a] zel like that: az[a] zel sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/dvd
[02:37] <BooZee> snorks: i have a couple more questions/problems. may I msg you in private?
[02:37] <az[a] zel> pl_ice, HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted
[02:37] <Chousuke> JustinHH: try to --force it
[02:37] <snorks> BooZee: Sure, but I'm still a newbie. I might not be able to help you
[02:37] <pl_ice> az[a] zel need to be root
[02:37] <JustinHH> Chousuke, and how do i do that?
[02:38] <JustinHH> (using synap[tic)
[02:38] <az[a] zel> pl_ice, will "sudo bash" suffice? or do I need to enable the root user?
[02:38] <Chousuke> az[a] zel: sudo hdparm -d1
[02:38] <pl_ice> az[a] zel $ sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/dvd
[02:38] <az[a] zel> no I did it with sudo
[02:38] <az[a] zel> still says operation not permitted
[02:38] <Chousuke> JustinHH: hmm
[02:38] <masterra_> i need some help with a crazy sound problem in Breezy.. anyone up for the challenge? when i installed.. Gnome just says there is no sound devices.. however /dev/dsp works fine, and even launching esd by hand works, but gnome (and all gnome apps) still refuse to beleive it..
[02:38] <Chousuke> it's an external .deb isn't it?
[02:39] <pl_ice> az[a] zel u using dvd right now?... turn the programs off etc
[02:39] <JustinHH> Chousuke,  or can you help me install it from the terminal?
[02:39] <Chousuke> JustinHH: sure. the command is dpkg.
[02:39] <Illuv> If have a machine with a 100mbit interface (eth0) and a gigabit interface (eth1). ifconfig reckognizes eth0, but not eth1. Do I have to use modprobe to install the correct drivers?
[02:39] <snorks> BooZee: I can read you, and I answer. Strange if you can't read me
[02:39] <JustinHH> sudo dpkg skype?
[02:39] <Chousuke> JustinHH: do dpkg --help and see if there is any option to "ignore dependencies"
[02:39] <BiSK-8> can any1 tell me the command 2 delete a folder?
[02:40] <az[a] zel> pl_ice, even with no disk in the drive and the tray out. still says operation not permitted :/
[02:40] <BooZee> snorks: oh... that means your not register with the irc server
[02:40] <_jason> BiSK-8:  rmdir FOLDER
[02:40] <pitti> BiSK-8: rm -r FOLDER
[02:40] <BiSK-8> k
[02:40] <BiSK-8> thx
[02:40] <Chousuke> JustinHH: no. sudo dpkg -i (and other switches) skype-package.deb
[02:40] <_jason> BiSK-8:  but your folder has to be empty first
[02:40] <snorks> BooZee: most likely
[02:40] <BooZee> it doesn't allow you to write in private
[02:40] <BiSK-8> oh
[02:40] <pitti> BiSK-8: rmdir will not delete it if there is something in the folder
[02:40] <BiSK-8> and 2 delete it and everything inside?
[02:40] <_jason> BiSK-8:  rm -r FOLDER
[02:40] <pitti> BiSK-8: rm -r will do
[02:40] <pl_ice> az[a] zel run sudo su  , managed to get root?
[02:40] <snorks> BooZee: feel free to fire questions here
[02:41] <az[a] zel> pl_ice, I have a root shell
[02:41] <BooZee> well, why do I need the root account? i can access all administration actions using sudo with my user pass, or when using the x..
[02:41] <pl_ice> az[a] zel try hdparm /dev/dvd should spit out info
[02:42] <az[a] zel> pl_ice, using_dma    =  0 (off) :(
[02:42] <pl_ice> az[a] zel to turn it on :  hdparm  -d1 /dev/dvd
[02:42] <_jason> ubuntu remove file histort
[02:43] <pl_ice> then edit one file , o/w on reboot clears it
[02:43] <_jason> oops that was suppose to go into google,...
[02:44] <JustinHH> Chousuke, dpkg: need an action option
[02:44] <BooZee> snorks:  why do I need the root account? i can access all administration actions using sudo with my user pass, or when using the x..
[02:44] <JustinHH> Chousuke, i wrote dpkg --ignore-depends=skype
[02:44] <intelikey> BooZee sudo runs commands as "root"  that is how you access admin apps via sudo  there is always a root account on a linux box,   the so called "dis-abled root"  only means that there is no password set for root, not that root is not there or doesn't work....
[02:45] <pl_ice> anyone uses GPS of any kind? ...
[02:45] <Chousuke> JustinHH: where did you download the skype debian package?
[02:45] <az[a] zel> pl_ice, here is the output of the commands to prove that I'm doing it as root :)   http://paste.uni.cc/7792
[02:45] <Chousuke> you need to give dpkg the *file* name of the package you install, not the name it would have in a repository
[02:46] <pl_ice> just crashed my pc, hold on :)
[02:46] <Chousuke> and you need to use the -i switch for install
[02:46] <JustinHH> ]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ (skype)
[02:47] <JustinHH> Chousuke, soory i have not read everithing
[02:47] <JustinHH> :D
[02:47] <az[a] zel> pl_ice, I don't recall having this problem until the recent kernel update
[02:47] <Chousuke> JustinHH: ah, it's in a repository.
[02:47] <pl_ice> az[a] zel will try to find that error, it not supposed to work like that...
[02:48] <Chousuke> JustinHH: did you manage to install it?=
[02:48] <az[a] zel> pl_ice, thank you
[02:48] <JustinHH> i try now
[02:49] <JustinHH> Chousuke,  i dave to download a package called kcontrol
[02:49] <pl_ice> az[a] zel > looks like you forgot to enable via support  google says it ...
[02:49] <Chousuke> JustinHH: it's not required
[02:49] <JustinHH> Chousuke, You can also use the qt3-qtconfig package to configure QT's appearance, which has fare less dependencies than kcontrol (none, in fact).
[02:49] <JustinHH> ?
[02:50] <obontu> how do i install the w32 codecs?
[02:50] <Chousuke> JustinHH: it's just for the appearance.
[02:50] <apokryphos> !w32codecs
[02:50] <ubotu> I guess w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy). 64-bit? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[02:50] <BooZee> snorks: oh.. so what will happen if i'll just hit "su" or "su -" ?
[02:50] <az[a] zel> pl_ice, via support? I didn't compile the kernel myself :/ unless there's a boot option?
[02:50] <obontu> thanx
[02:50] <Chousuke> JustinHH: here: apt-get install --ignore-breakage skype
[02:50] <Chousuke> with sudo
[02:50] <JustinHH> could it be the reasson that i do not have free space on the hdd?
[02:51] <JustinHH> E: Command line option --ignore-breakage is not understood
[02:51] <JustinHH> loool
[02:51] <JustinHH> i am using synaptic now
[02:52] <SMEXE> Hello everyone.. I was wondering if anyone can help me with my networking problem?
[02:52] <az[a] zel> pl_ice, I only noticed some poor performance with that kernel update. Maybe I can revert back to the previous kernel? but dpkg seems to have removed the old one when the new one was installed
[02:53] <BooZee> how do I install a .deb file? like the w32codecs ?
[02:53] <_jason> BooZee:  dpkg -i FILE.deb
[02:53] <snorks> BooZee: not much
[02:53] <snorks> BooZee: I think it's su -s -H
[02:53] <pl_ice> az[a] zel hold on
[02:53] <snorks> BooZee: no, wait
[02:54] <JustinHH> how can i remover a folder (not empty) using the terminal?
[02:54] <Chousuke> JustinHH: urgh
[02:54] <_jason> JavaGeek_:  rm -r FOLDER
[02:54] <_jason> JustinHH:  rm -r FOLDER
[02:54] <JustinHH> thx
[02:54] <pl_ice> az[a] zel 2 threads on ubuntuforums
[02:55] <zeroverse> for those of you using 5.04, you may find this site helpful: http://ubuntuguide.org/
[02:55] <snorks> BooZee: sudo -s -H
[02:55] <pl_ice> az[a] zel http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=47659&highlight=HDIO_SET_DMA+failed%3A+Operation
[02:55] <pl_ice> az[a] zel http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=61054&highlight=HDIO_SET_DMA+failed%3A+Operation
[02:55] <Chousuke> "Note: The --ignore-breakage option was added by The Fink Project and  hence  is  only available in the apt-get provided by Fink's apt package"
[02:55] <Chousuke> my bad
[02:56] <JustinHH> ;)
[02:56] <JustinHH> it happence
[02:56] <Chousuke> JustinHH: try to see if there's --force or something
[02:56] <snorks> BooZee: sorry for the late reply :/. Anyway, when you sudo stuff, you use the root account indirectly. It's to avoid you to work as root, but rather just perform commands as root in-the-moment.
[02:57] <snorks> BooZee: I guess it's a part of Ubuntu's userfriendliness
[02:58] <az[a] zel> pl_ice, ok thanks. im going to try adding that via82cxxx in front of everything in /etc/modules and see what happens.
[02:58] <rata> i am triying to run a multiseat system, there is any package to "auto" do this ?
[02:58] <BooZee> oh.. got it
[02:58] <BooZee> nice knowing that..
[02:58] <snorks> yeah
[02:58] <snorks> it can be good and bad
[02:59] <_jason> oes anyone know how to make panel applets transparent?  Making the panel itself transparent, leaves the applets opaque.
[02:59] <snorks> but you still have option to work as root with the sudo -s -H, so all in all its positive
[02:59] <snorks> Secreth`X: my nick is not registered, can't msg you
[02:59] <Secreth`X> (k)
[02:59] <BooZee> snorks: do you use gnome or kde?
[02:59] <snorks> BooZee: gnome
[03:00] <BooZee> hoary or breezy?
[03:00] <snorks> hoary
[03:00] <BooZee> why don't you use kde?
[03:00] <snorks> shrug.. :) i had an ubuntu amd64 CD, so I thought I'd try it
[03:01] <snorks> And I don't like it so much. x86 is alot more easier to be in
[03:02] <RockyBurt> anyone know if there's any  way to have the mouse sensitivity of my laptop touchpad and my actual mouse be different from one another? (i need to speed up my touchpad, but not speed up my mouse)
[03:03] <BooZee> what's x86?
[03:03] <snorks> 32 bit.. 386 486 pentium 1,2,3,4
[03:03] <snorks> amd athlon 32
[03:03] <snorks> bit
[03:04] <snorks> it's an architecture
[03:04] <Chousuke> BooZee: If you don't know, you have it. :P
[03:04] <Skid> 686 ?
[03:04] <BooZee> ye got it, but what does KDE got to do with it?
[03:04] <SMEXE> My network card is enabled, and it is configured to DHCP, but my router keeps refusing my connection.. Does anyone know why this is, and how I can fix it?
[03:04] <snorks> ubuntu = gnome, kubuntu = kde. I had Ubuntu (gnome) amd64
[03:05] <snorks> Just to try Ubuntu
[03:05] <apokryphos> BooZee: eh? It's your *system* architecture
[03:05] <snorks> And I stuck with it
[03:05] <apokryphos> very sweet
[03:05] <snorks> and i havent installed kde
[03:05] <snorks> because im switching back to x86
[03:06] <snorks> SMEXE: hm?
[03:06] <BooZee> wait wait wait... may be I got it all wrong, but from what I understand, ubuntu is the linux distribution (like red hat, mandrake etc.) and on my ditibution, I can use any X that I want (KDE, GNOME..)
[03:07] <snorks> BooZee: you're 100% right. I'm not using kde simply because I'm lazy :)
[03:07] <Secreth`X> lol
[03:07] <snorks> BooZee: and because I'm installing another version soon
[03:07] <SMEXE> My network's messed up.  Ubuntu was supposed to configure the network automatically, right?  And usually, this happens in windows, but I don't know why the router refuses the connection when I try to log into its web-based management system.. and so, no internet..
[03:08] <snorks> SMEXE: web based interface? what about telnet?
[03:08] <apokryphos> BooZee: KDE/GNOME isn't X, they're Desktop Environments
[03:08] <BooZee> o.k. so the system architecture has got nothing to do with it, and if you installed ubuntu amd64 - you can install kde on ur box at anytime...
[03:08] <BooZee> right?
[03:08] <snorks> yes, BooZee
[03:08] <pl_ice> SMEXE , that's the beauty of linux ;) do it urself not ...
[03:08] <snorks> if kde has a 64 bit version
[03:08] <snorks> else I gotta do other things
[03:08] <apokryphos> BooZee: well, yes, but different packages are made for the different architectures
[03:09] <BooZee> o.k.
[03:09] <BooZee> now, you said that the kde/gnome is not X. then what is X ?
[03:10] <SMEXE> telnet?  I'm a linux newbie, so I don't think I can do that..  But, I configured the network settings like i'm supposed to..  Enabled the ethernet network, ticked the 'configured' box, and switched it to DHCP.. but doesn't work..
[03:10] <az[a] zel> pl_ice, yay, dma mode works now :) is there a "proper" way, of getting hdparm -d1 /dev/dvd to run on boot?
[03:10] <snorks> X is the set of required libraries and stuff to be able to work with a window manager
[03:10] <pl_ice> az[a] zel glad ;) yeh, there is a config file
[03:10] <snorks> and other things i maybe dont know about
[03:10] <SMEXE> maybe this'll explain my problem a bit better: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=70488
[03:11] <BooZee> so KDE and GNOME are both Window Managers?
[03:11] <Chousuke> no
[03:11] <pl_ice> az[a] zel sudo vi /etc/hdparm.conf  have a look around, and just add couple new lines, like they say there
[03:11] <Chousuke> they're desktop environments
[03:11] <JustinHH> Chousuke, thank you, i could not manage it :( i think ther is no new package available with synaptic for the librabry requierd :((
[03:11] <Chousuke> they include a window manager.
[03:11] <apokryphos> snorks: X is a graphical windowing system
[03:11] <az[a] zel> pl_ice, yeah cool, thanks
[03:11] <pl_ice> az[a] zel n/p
[03:11] <desplesda> BooZee:  no, gnome and kde provide window managers as part of their set of packages but they're both a great deal more than that
[03:11] <snorks> apokryphos: yes it is
[03:12] <Chousuke> apokryphos: that's not an exact definition either.
[03:12] <apokryphos> BooZee: kde uses kwin, gnome's default is metacity. They can both be changed though
[03:12] <Chousuke> gnome will probably move to luminocity at some point.
[03:12] <snorks> what did gnome use before?
[03:12] <Chousuke> sawfish
[03:12] <snorks> yes
[03:12] <Chousuke> which means OS X like eye candy.
[03:12] <apokryphos> Chousuke: X is the X window system.. it's maybe not a full definition, but it's correct
[03:12] <BooZee> wtf are these names?
[03:13] <bimberi> SMEXE: did you deactivate and activate after reconfiguring?
[03:13] <SMEXE> yeah, I did..
[03:13] <snorks> BooZee: they're the names of the app that controls windows.
[03:13] <Chousuke> BooZee: You need not concern yourself with them
[03:13] <snorks> Chousuke: wrong answer m8 :/
[03:13] <BooZee> but I want to learn linux real good
[03:13] <bimberi> SMEXE: k, sry - no other ideas atm :|
[03:13] <snorks> that's why it was wrong answer
[03:13] <BooZee> i wanna know everything about it
[03:13] <snorks> Good, BooZee
[03:14] <SMEXE> bimberi: s'okay.. thanks anyway.. :)
[03:14] <desplesda> BooZee:  the best way to learn it is to use it, and ask us for help if anything confuses you :)
[03:14] <mercurus> greetings all
[03:14] <mercurus> just had a slightly rough upgrade to breezy from hoary, but it was my fault ...
[03:14] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell BooZee about rute
[03:14] <apokryphos> BooZee: a good place to start
[03:14] <BooZee> that's exactly what I'm doing with your help which is blessed
[03:15] <BiSK-8> hello
[03:15] <BiSK-8> again
[03:15] <BiSK-8> how can i update my clock?
[03:15] <mercurus> ha ha ! All the icons in the mozilla firefox window are backwards arrows :)
[03:15] <Skid> !ntp
[03:15] <ubotu> Skid: Bugger all, i dunno
[03:15] <Skid> heh
[03:15] <desplesda> BiSK-8:  you mean update it from the ntp server, or do you want to change the time yourself?
[03:15] <Skid> !ntpdate
[03:15] <ubotu> Skid: I don't know
[03:16] <BiSK-8> desplesda: update it myself
[03:16] <BooZee> another quest(ion..:): how can I control and change the things that run when linux start?
[03:16] <bigfoot1> to the opera users here: do you those times where you can't type anything in opera, but when you switch to other programs, the keyboard works fine? is this a bug in opera ?
[03:16] <desplesda> basically right click on the clock, click Adjust Date & Time
[03:16] <BiSK-8> lol
[03:16] <bigfoot1> edit: do you _have_  those times
[03:16] <gn0me> How would I add to the bootup actions so that it runs "dhclient" on reboot?
[03:16] <BiSK-8> didnt think of it
[03:16] <apokryphos> bigfoot1: use opera quite a bit; never experienced that
[03:16] <desplesda> BiSK-8:  :D
[03:16] <gn0me> Rather than have to type it every time?
[03:16] <BiSK-8> i tried through terminal
[03:17] <BiSK-8> but nuttin'
[03:17] <BiSK-8> :D
[03:17] <snorks> BooZee: an X-server (a service) is required to view a graphical platform (desktop manager) on which you place other apps, like a window manager (to keep programs inside a window instead of having them float out all over the screen like water), and other applications like graphical file managing (konqueror - which again resides inside a window - the windowmanager) and so on
[03:17] <desplesda> BiSK-8:  if you want to use the terminal, use the date command
[03:17] <pl_ice> SMEXE , soooo, u can't do what? i read on the forum...
[03:17] <snorks> BooZee: I don't know another way to explain it
[03:17] <desplesda> BiSK-8:  date --set "date string etc"
[03:17] <desplesda> BiSK-8:  for info on how to lay out the date string just run `date`
[03:17] <BooZee> snorks: thanks, I think i'm getting the hang of it..
[03:17] <BiSK-8> desplesda: wont work, i right clicked it but it blocks up
[03:18] <bimberi> gn0me: you can add commands to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[03:18] <obontu> i installed the w32, but i still can't watch anything
[03:18] <SMEXE> pl_ice: I can't access the router, therefore, I can't access the internet..  The router (gateway) refuses the connection.. I don't know why..
[03:18] <desplesda> BiSK-8:  blocks up? what do you mean, the time admin program doesn't change?
[03:18] <mercurus> gn0me: or better still, configure /etc/network/interfaces to use DHCP ... try the Network Config tool
[03:18] <pl_ice> SMEXE and u got linksys router? ...
[03:19] <BooZee> snorks: another quest(ion..:): how can I control and change the things that run when linux start?
[03:19] <bigfoot1> I can't scroll back far enough with  gnome terminal. How do I fix it?
[03:19] <Skid> edit the current profile, bigfoot1
[03:19] <gn0me> bimberi: Where in the order of stuff does that script get run?
[03:19] <Skid> (right click)
[03:19] <Blissex> bigfoot1: it is an option under the preferences...
[03:19] <Skid> scrool backlines
[03:19] <BiSK-8> desplesda: no, just blocks, opens a blank window, and when i click the "X" i have 2 force exit
[03:19] <SMEXE> pl_ice: dlink..
[03:19] <desplesda> BiSK-8:  weeird
[03:19] <BiSK-8> so....
[03:19] <gn0me> bimberi: Last?
[03:19] <desplesda> BiSK-8:  well, you can use the terminal
[03:19] <BiSK-8> via terminal
[03:19] <BiSK-8> how do i change it?
[03:19] <desplesda> BiSK-8:  run "date"
[03:20] <desplesda> BiSK-8:  it will print the current date
[03:20] <snorks> BooZee: in /etc/init.d/ lies all the services you can start. The different runlevels during bootup has different apps starting (S) or being killed (K). Example: to start SSHD (secure shell daemon) on startup, you could place it on a run-level, preferrably higher than 3, with a symbolic link called S(for start)##sshd inside /etc/rc#.d/
[03:20] <BiSK-8> ok
[03:20] <desplesda> BiSK-8:  then run date -s "date string"
[03:20] <bigfoot1> Skid, thank you.
[03:20] <bimberi> gn0me: i don't know ... sorry
[03:20] <BiSK-8> date string?
[03:20] <gn0me> No troubles.
[03:20] <Skid> np
[03:20] <BiSK-8> just write the date or not?
[03:20] <pl_ice> SMEXE so what 'ping' says to router? ... maybe u set different ip, and router doesn't allow it to connect, do exact settings as u had under wind.
[03:20] <desplesda> BiSK-8:  ok, you know how date gave you the date and time in that format?
[03:20] <desplesda> BiSK-8:  like "Fri Sep 30 23:20:52 EST 2005"
[03:20] <snorks> BooZee: these symbolic links are links to the scripts of the services
[03:21] <dell500> can someone help me with my xorg.conf and dual crts, i think everything is correct
[03:21] <BiSK-8> oh
[03:21] <BiSK-8> ok
[03:21] <SMEXE> pl_ice: That's what I did.. since it's DHCP, everything's automatically generated.. So, I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong..
[03:21] <BiSK-8> it works
[03:21] <BiSK-8> ic
[03:21] <BiSK-8> thx
[03:21] <desplesda> BiSK-8:  no problem :D
[03:21] <BiSK-8> and another problem
[03:21] <BiSK-8> sudo says 2 me: sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Sep 30 16:49:07 2005
[03:22] <snorks> BooZee: I learnt this yesterday, so I'm not 100% stable on it yet.
[03:22] <dell500> how do i specify a split in my desktop for dual monitors?? :)
[03:22] <BiSK-8> what's that?
[03:22] <BooZee> snorks: wow.. didn't understand that, but I have to go now, so I'll have to understand it later.. did you got my private msg?
[03:22] <snorks> BooZee: I don't know how to register my nick :P But if my computer is on, I'm in this channel
[03:22] <BooZee> snorks: /nickserv register pass
[03:23] <Secreth`X> hehe
[03:23] <BooZee> and than /nickserv identify pass when you log in to the irc server
[03:23] <bimberi> gn0me: /etc/rcS.d/S55bootmisc.sh :)
[03:23] <stan|uni> BooZee, i thought /msg nickserv ...
[03:23] <pl_ice> SMEXE how about subnets? ... did u tried to ping from router?
[03:23] <BooZee> o.k. I gotta go, so thanks for all the fish (and for the help.. :-) and i'll get back here later..
[03:23] <dell500> i guess no one knows :(
[03:24] <BooZee> stan|uni: you can use what I wrote too..
[03:24] <ompaul> snorks, /msg nickserv register <your_password_here>    << without the braces and your choice of password :)
[03:24] <stan|uni> k
[03:24] <BooZee> ba bye everybody
[03:24] <snorks> stan|uni: What would the command be in irssi? :P
[03:24] <obontu> where can i find reps?
[03:24] <snorks> ompaul: greatness, thanks
[03:24] <snorks> bye BooZee
[03:24] <stan|uni> snorks, ;)
[03:24] <SMEXE> pl_ice: Ok, this is sounding weird to me.. I'm not used to these pings, and whatever, but I'm somewhat sure I can't ping from the router..  From what my friend tells me, my pc can't generate an IP adress... anyone know why?
[03:24] <snorks> ;)
[03:24] <bigfoot1> To the knowledgable users of linux: I'm getting an error message (a very long error message) when I run "make".  Please refer to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2656
[03:25] <obontu> where can i find extra repositories?
[03:25] <BiSK-8> sudo says 2 me: sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Sep 30 16:49:07 2005
[03:25] <ompaul> snorks, place it in both the nickserv and server password locations on the client (xchat) click on edit rather than connect
[03:25] <BiSK-8> desplesda: sudo says 2 me: sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Sep 30 16:49:07 2005
[03:25] <snorks> SMEXE: sudo apt-get install nmap, when that is done, do a "nmap -sP 192.168.0.0/24" this will list hosts on your network which doens't run firewall.
[03:26] <snorks> SMEXE: if you know the ip adr of the router
[03:26] <ompaul> snorks, do not use a 'good' password for that password
[03:26] <earthen> obontu, ubuntuguide.org
[03:26] <snorks> ompaul: irssi here
[03:26] <SMEXE> snorks: So for the second command, I put in my router ip instead of 192.168.0.0?
[03:27] <ompaul> snorks, ahh enjoy its in your rc file
[03:27] <desplesda> BiSK-8:  log out and log back in again
[03:27] <snorks> ompaul: ok
[03:27] <ompaul> snorks, or whatever they call it for rc - let me check :)
[03:27] <snorks> SMEXE: well, do you use onboard network card?
[03:27] <BiSK-8> desplesda: ok thx
[03:27] <SMEXE> snorks: er.. by onboard I'm guessing you mean internal? (it's not wireless btw..)
[03:27] <snorks> SMEXE: how many rj-45 connectors do you have out from your computer?
[03:28] <snorks> SMEXE: are they located on your mainboard, or on a PCI card?
[03:28] <ompaul> snorks, it is called in a directort called .irssi in a file called config
[03:28] <snorks> ompaul: ok thanks mate
[03:28] <SMEXE> snorks: just the one.. and on a PCI card I think..
[03:28] <ompaul> snorks, for formats check >man irssi<
[03:30] <snorks> SMEXE: is your ip adresses 192.168 or 10.0?
[03:30] <SMEXE> snorks: MY ip adress, or the router's?  Either way, it's 192.168
[03:30] <snorks> ok
[03:30] <bigfoot1> somebody please help me with a compile/make problem. Check out the error message at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2656
[03:30] <onkarshinde> Does use of Cairo in GNOME 2.12 cause any performance improvement? Also, does anyone have screenshots of Colony 5?
[03:31] <flibble> lo all
[03:31] <snorks> SMEXE: is your router also a dhcp server?
[03:31] <earthen> Im setting up Ubuntu for my wife, and she wants the list for her Graphical greeter (DebBlue list) how can i change her login pic
[03:31] <Dakylla> hi
[03:31] <pl_ice> SMEXE , can u post on that forum, ur /etc/network/interfaces ?
[03:31] <SMEXE> snorks: err.. yes
[03:31] <stefanomasini> question about mdadm: I need reuse disks of a previous array for building a new array. How do I wipe them clean?
[03:31] <Dakylla> is it possible to have usplash running in vga= mode please
[03:31] <onkarshinde> earthen: I suppose it is in Administration->Login Screen
[03:31] <SMEXE> pl_ice: oh, about that.. How do I change file permissions?  Because I meant to edit some of that, but I can't do it..
[03:32] <onkarshinde> I mean System->Administration->Login Screen
[03:32] <Dakylla> 1024x768, or so
[03:32] <pl_ice> SMEXE use : sudo
[03:32] <SMEXE> pl_ice: oh, right.. thanks.. I'll brb.. I'm gonna try something
[03:32] <earthen> onkarshinde: yeah I am looking there but i don't see anyplace to choose your login pic
[03:32] <pl_ice> SMEXE i mean, eg. sudo vi /etc/network/interfaces ,don't change premissions, and do a backup ...
[03:32] <onkarshinde> bigfoot1: Most probably it is not finding correct header file, something named qstring.h
[03:33] <bigfoot1> onkarshinde, you read the whole thing? wow. thanks, sir!
[03:33] <bigfoot1> onkarshinde, what should i do? I'm a newbie?
[03:33] <bigfoot1> I'm a newbie.
[03:33] <earthen> onkarshinde: I see on the preview that they have custom pic's so it have to be possable
[03:34] <onkarshinde> earthen: I am not on Ubuntu currently so really can't help you.
[03:34] <earthen> onkarshinde: what are you on
[03:35] <earthen> onkarshinde: and does yours give you that option?
[03:35] <onkarshinde> bigfoot1: I am anot sure as to where you should keep the header files. May be the program you are trying to install depends on some library. Do you need to compile it yourself? Couldn't you find it in repositories?
[03:35] <daejavu> need some help with ATI Display Driver !  please help
[03:35] <onkarshinde> earthen: I am at office on Win2K
[03:35] <bigfoot1> onkarshinde, i don't fully understand what you are saying/asking.
[03:35] <onkarshinde> daejavu: What kind of help?
[03:35] <earthen> onkarshinde: DOH!
[03:36] <onkarshinde> bigfoot1: Have you used Synaptic or apt-get before?
[03:36] <daejavu> onkarshinde, i used Synaptic to download n install fglrx-control & xorg-driver-fglrx .. but they dont give me 3d Acceleration :S
[03:36] <bigfoot1> onkarshinde, The tar.gz file i got is from a website that offers photo-hosting (something like flickr). They offer an uploader program to upload a big batch of pictures to their website. This is the program I'm trying to install/compile/make.
[03:36] <pl_ice> daejavu i just installed mine
[03:37] <bigfoot1> onkarshinde, this file is thus not from ubuntu.
[03:37] <daejavu> pl_ice, how did u do that ? i mean what steps u followed .. i got me a Radeon 9600
[03:37] <onkarshinde> daejavu: I suppose you need to manually edit xorg.conf. Which card by the way?
[03:37] <onkarshinde> bigfoot1: site link?
[03:37] <bigfoot1> zoto.com
[03:37] <onkarshinde> daejavu: there is a forum topic that should help you.
[03:37] <onkarshinde> !ati
[03:37] <ubotu> [ati]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[03:38] <daejavu> onkarshinde, Radeon 9600 .. i did .. i changed the driver to fglrx in the Device settings .. it gives me the X display but still no acceleration
[03:38] <pl_ice> daejavu ,u have to edit file /etc/X11/xorg.conf  and change line: Driver :"ati" to : "fglrx" got the same card, works ok
[03:38] <bigfoot1> onkarshinde, http://www.zoto.com/general/downloads/
[03:38] <jarnaud> Hi all
[03:38] <bigfoot1> hi jarnaud
[03:38] <daejavu> pl_ice, did u used Synaptic for installation ?
[03:38] <pl_ice> daejavu yeh, just an 1 hour ago
[03:39] <jarnaud> I have a PC to install. Should I wait a little bit for the Breezy Badger or can I use the preview and it will update istself later on?
[03:39] <daejavu> pl_ice, damn !! why can i have the acceleration .. hey is it possible for u to send me ur xorg.conf file ?
[03:39] <whyameye> I have an ATI Mobility 7500 card in my laptop. Do I want to be using these ATI drivers?
[03:40] <SMEXE> pl_ice: sorry, no can do on the posting that on the forum.. I'm on my dad's pc, and the other pc (the one with the linux) 'conveniently' has a floppy jammed inside the slot..
[03:40] <onkarshinde> bigfoot1: Did you followed instructions in README?
[03:40] <onkarshinde> It says it requires, At least Qt 3.3 (no gurantees for prior releases), libexif-0.6.12 (http://sourceforge.net/projects/libexif), xmlrpc-c-1.2 (http://xmlrpc-c.sourceforge.net)
[03:40] <pl_ice> daejavu , then ctrl alt backspace to reboot X , and then type in shell glxgears  should have ~3 thous. fps, then glxinfo, can't have 'melsa' anywhere and has to read direct rending =yes
[03:41] <pl_ice> SMEXE ,yeh ok
[03:41] <ompaul> pl_ice, you got your ati card working, can you do the world a favour and document in small steps that and stick it on the wiki? if you have made it work with the instructions on the wiki can you alter the page and say 'known to work with ati XYZ on date'
[03:41] <kemik> whyameye:  check out the ATI homepage, i think supported cards are listed there
[03:41] <bigfoot1> onkarshinde, yes.have you read it? I did the first 3 steps under "buliding".  Then I tried step 4 (Start the build process [make] ) but that's where I get the error message.
[03:41] <pl_ice> SMEXE take teh fdd cable out ;)
[03:41] <SMEXE> I tried to do this: sudo route add default gw 192.168.0.1 but I got "Network is Unreachable"
[03:41] <daejavu> pl_ice, did that too .. since theres no acceleration so the glxgears was at like 99-120 FPS .. and info shows rending=no
[03:41] <daejavu> maybe i need to update my repositories to get the latest drivers
[03:42] <pl_ice> daejavu ,hold on, there is  a script online for xorg
[03:42] <kemik> pl_ice:  are you running hoary? what cpu you got?
[03:42] <bigfoot1> onkarshinde, i guess i should check whether i have libexif-0.6.12 and xmlrpc-c-1.2, requirements as listed in the readme.
[03:42] <sexcopter8000m> anyone here play ogame?
[03:42] <onkarshinde> bigfoot1: read the requirements
[03:42] <arhizs> hello
[03:42] <bigfoot1> hello
[03:42] <arhizs> can i ask for help
[03:42] <arhizs> here??
[03:42] <pl_ice> kemik 3 gig
[03:42] <bigfoot1> arhizs, no. You can only ask if you can ask for help here.
[03:43] <daejavu> onkarshinde, how can i make my system scan for new hardware again ?  i was thinking of removing drivers and giving a reboot and let the system do an auto detect
[03:43] <bigfoot1> arhizs, just joking. feel free to ask for help.
[03:43] <onkarshinde> bigfoot1: regarding qt you should install libqt3cmt102 or something like that and dev package associated with it. It is in repos.
[03:43] <SMEXE> anyone know why my network is unreachable?
[03:43] <k0p> hello
[03:43] <kemik> pl_ice:  ok... hmm.. i only get around 1k fps... amd2500+ and radeon9600
[03:44] <pl_ice> kemik ,then u don't have the ati installed ...
[03:44] <arhizs> hey im a linux newbie just installed kubuntu and i cant use the serial mouse im using badger...
[03:44] <onkarshinde> daejavu: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' shouls work. No need to remove drivers.
[03:44] <pl_ice> for ATI  follow this:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65276&highlight=ATI+install
[03:44] <kemik> pl_ice:  using fglrx.. w/o i get 250fps
[03:44] <k0p> breezy will replace hoary? I'm update to breezy, by the way when it is release I want come back to stable version..
[03:44] <onkarshinde> bigfoot1: xmlrpc should also be there in repos.
[03:44] <daejavu> onkarshinde, can i do that while in Gnome ?
[03:45] <bigfoot1> onkarshinde, for QT, i just got qt3-dev-tools from repos. is this enough?
[03:45] <bretzel> Hello: Ihave a serious issue in development env. ( Kdevelop, PKG_CONFIG_CHECK does not propagate vars from configure.in: ( libsigc++-2.0, setting sigc_LIBS and sigc_CFLAGS)  -- I know it is not kdevelop's related, because SUse, Fedora and slackware runs find
[03:45] <arhizs> hey im a linux newbie just installed kubuntu and i cant use the serial mouse im using badger... anyone pls
[03:45] <bigfoot1> onkarshinde,sorry: for qmake , i just got qt3-dev-tools from repos. is this enough?
[03:45] <onkarshinde> k0p: Breezy will be released on 13 Oct. It won't replace hoary. Updates will be available for hoary for next 2 released.
[03:45] <pl_ice> daejavu xorg :  http://www.objorkum.com/scripts/fglrxconfig/
[03:45] <LokeDK> Is there a way to set download speed limit? on f.ex firefox?
[03:46] <onkarshinde> bigfoot1: It should be enough. You can install it and then check the files installed from properties of package.. it should read header files.
[03:46] <pl_ice> kemik how about glxinfo?
[03:46] <k0p> onkarshinde, at 13 oct breezy will be stable, right?
[03:46] <onkarshinde> daejavu: You can do it when in gnome.
[03:46] <avalost> anyone have any idea as to why gdm will not read a .desktop file I have put in both /usr/share/xsessions /usr/local/share/xsessions/ ?
[03:46] <bigfoot1> onkarshinde, So I guess I next have to get libexif-0.6.12 and xmlrpc-c-1.2
[03:46] <arhizs> hey im a linux newbie just installed kubuntu and i cant use the serial mouse im using badger... anyone pls...
[03:46] <avalost> I have restarted gdm, even rebooted yet it will not read them.. the files are all chmodded the same and owned by root too..
[03:47] <onkarshinde> k0p: Yup. You can still choose to use hoary if you keep your machine updated with security updates.
[03:47] <onkarshinde> bigfoot1: right
[03:47] <daejavu> Cooll .. lemme try .. thatnks for the help !
[03:47] <daejavu> pl_ice, have u tried that ?
[03:47] <kemik> pl_ice:  direct rendering: Yes
[03:47] <onkarshinde> arhizs: I suppose you should ask in #kubuntu channel
[03:47] <k0p> at 13 oct, what is development bratch?
[03:47] <pl_ice> daejavu ,yeh
[03:47] <arhizs> ok sirs
[03:47] <kemik> pl_ice:  but im reading that thread... im not using the latest driver really so i'll deinstall and install the latest one i think
[03:47] <bigfoot1> onkarshinde, "it should read header files". How can i tell whether qt3-dev-tools package has the ability to do that?
[03:47] <apokryphos> onkarshinde: no, mouse is an X issue
[03:48] <temperboi> hello again.  i hope someone will help me this time.. ;)
[03:48] <pl_ice> kemik ,don't know, i get now 1600~ fps
[03:48] <Hendric> Why can't i hear any sounds??? my built-in soundcard is just an AC'97 chip... isn't it supported??? my new motherboard with 5.1sound features is detected fine...
[03:49] <onkarshinde> bigfoot1: I mean, once you install it. Click on the properties of the package from synaptic. You can check installed files. The list should contain some header files ending with .h
[03:49] <Hendric> how can i troubleshoot if the problem is with soundcard or with the driver?
[03:49] <daejavu> pl_ice, lets C  :D
[03:49] <kemik> Hendric:  afaik my mobo has a AC'97 and i have sounds. so i dont think it's the drivers
[03:49] <onkarshinde> arhizs: Is that a serial mouse?
[03:49] <temperboi> how can i delete this specific file? >>> glib1.2
[03:49] <temperboi> anyonr?
[03:49] <bigfoot1> onkarshinde, good news. several files end with .h
[03:49] <pl_ice> temperboi why ? ...
[03:49] <apokryphos> temperboi: rm somfile
[03:49] <Hendric> my system here shows all the volume features etc.. i can see the drivers but i ain't got no sounds.. how can i fix this?
[03:49] <christian-> I"E: Couldn't find package regionset"
[03:49] <temperboi> i like rm -rf the whole glib and  ended reinstalling the whole stuff
[03:49] <onkarshinde> apokryphos: Yes, you are right. But it might be related to X in KUbuntu
[03:49] <kemik> Hendric:   do "lsmod" and see if snd_ac97_codec  is added
[03:50] <kemik> Hendric:  hoary/breezy ?
[03:50] <apokryphos> onkarshinde: considering X in Kubuntu is exactly the same as it is in Ubuntu ;-)
[03:50] <Hendric> hoary
[03:50] <bigfoot1> onkarshinde, readme says it requires libexif-0.6.12. Synaptic has libexif10. is that gonna work?
[03:50] <Hendric> even in breezy it doesn't have sounds
[03:50] <kemik> Hendric:  soundserver enabled/disabled?
[03:50] <christian-> m trying to run a DVD, and the help file wiki ubuntu site told me to download regionset with apt-get, but it says E: Couldn't find package regionset"
[03:50] <kemik> !sound
[03:50] <ubotu> methinks sound is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/
[03:50] <onkarshinde> bigfoot1: See if you can find other requirements in repositories also.
[03:50] <temperboi> im trying to install xmms but it says glib1.2 not installed, but im sure i installed glib2.0 from the synaptic manager.
[03:50] <onkarshinde> arhizs: Is it serial mouse?
[03:50] <Hendric> didn't changed anything... any computer i installed with ubuntu got sounds after installation.. except for this one...
[03:51] <apokryphos> onkarshinde: he did say that, yes :)
[03:51] <bigfoot1> onkarshinde, which other requirements?
[03:51] <temperboi> anyone?
[03:51] <temperboi> :S
[03:51] <Hendric> snd_ac97_codec         64608  1 snd_via82xx <-- got it.. but still no sound
[03:52] <onkarshinde> apokryphos: Then this is not at all related to X i suppose. Some serial mouse are known to cause problems.
[03:52] <kemik> Hendric:  ok.. well i dunno.. try that wikipage
[03:52] <onkarshinde> bigfoot1: xmlrpc and exif something as said in README.
[03:52] <SMEXE> err.. anyone..?  How come my network is unreachable?
[03:52] <atha> temperboi: install also the 1.2 version
[03:52] <christian-> !dvd
[03:52] <apokryphos> onkarshinde: hence, it's an X issue.
[03:52] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras
[03:52] <pl_ice> temperboi , u trying just to delete one file ? ... or the whole lib...
[03:52] <onkarshinde> apokryphos: Ok. I take my word back.
[03:52] <christian-> !hoary-extras
[03:52] <ubotu> hoary-extras is, like, totally, see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[03:52] <bigfoot1> onkarshinde, the readme said : libexif-0.6.12. But synaptic does NOT have this exact file.
[03:52] <temperboi> atha, apt-get install libglib1.2??
[03:53] <bigfoot1> onkarshinde, that's why I don't know what to do now.
[03:53] <atha> temperboi: yes, and if you need -dev library, then also libglib1.2-dev
[03:53] <Hendric> waaa.. i was wondering.. when i click on vol control and then preference... i got C-media on device control... but device manager says its an AC'97
[03:54] <WhiteRabbit> but?
[03:54] <pl_ice> Hendric ,check ur sound mixer setup, it could just 'quiet' ....
[03:54] <temperboi> but i have installed the the stuff i see in the synaptic package manager
[03:55] <onkarshinde> bigfoot1: Wait 5 minutes. And I will have some answer
[03:55] <temperboi> stil no luck. ;S
[03:55] <bigfoot1> onkarshinde, thank you so MUCH!!!
[03:56] <bigfoot1> the things you do for a ubuntu-using stranger.
[03:56] <WhiteRabbit> bigfoot1, he means he is a professional googler, it will take him around 5mins to search the proper fix!
[03:56] <vinboy> anyone here use a password manager?
[03:56] <Illuv> I want to give a specific user rights to perform rsync...eyefi   gift=(root)     /usr/bin/rsync
[03:56] <Illuv> something like this should work no?
[03:56] <bigfoot1> WhiteRabbit, were you guessing on that?
[03:56] <WhiteRabbit> bigfoot1, No
[03:56] <Illuv> in the sudoers file
[03:57] <bigfoot1> WhiteRabbit, how did you know?
[03:57] <pl_ice> temperboi , what u exactly doing? ....
[03:57] <WhiteRabbit> bigfoot1, trust me on this I know lol
[03:57] <temperboi> trying to install xmms.
[03:57] <temperboi> on  a computer with
[03:57] <temperboi> no internet connection
[03:57] <WhiteRabbit> temperboi, stop
[03:57] <WhiteRabbit> temperboi, doin
[03:57] <WhiteRabbit> temperboi, this
[03:58] <pl_ice> temperboi , put the ubuntu CD into drive... should see it then apt-get update ...
[03:59] <Hendric> now i got the proble.. my soundcard has a C-Media chipset (base on the mobo manual), but ubuntu detects it as an AC'97 chip (lspci -v)... how can i override its auto detection and set it to CMEDIA??
[03:59] <pl_ice> temperboi , i had huge issues doing things like that w/o internet, it's a pain...
[03:59] <christian-> Hendric, I've got that same problem. Someone told me that it's fixed in the Breezy
[04:00] <kevin06> Am I the only one miffed by the fct that Breezy has TERMINAL in ACCESORIES?
[04:00] <christian-> The fix being that you can choose what card you want to use from the sound prefs.
[04:00] <Hendric> even in breezy its detected as an AC'97.. how can i fix this?? how can i override??
[04:00] <daejavu> pl_ice, nops .. it didnt worked :S
[04:00] <christian-> Have you tried preferences -> sound ?
[04:01] <onkarshinde> bigfoot1: Just search for libexif (without version) and install the package you get. Lets hope it helps.
[04:01] <Hendric> christian: nothing there about selecting what card..
[04:01] <christian-> Hendric, are you running breezy now? Then click the general tab. Isn't there a choose your audiocard-pulldown there?
[04:01] <arhizs> hey is ubuntu the best distro to run on an internet cafe...
[04:01] <Hendric> no i downgrade to hoary to see if its ok...
[04:02] <Hendric> i'll try breezy again
[04:02] <onkarshinde> arhizs: Sure it is. Provided you like Firefox and don't have any liking for any other browser (read as konqueror)
[04:02] <christian-> Hendric, wait a sec! Have you tried to disable the onboard audiocard in your bios ?
[04:02] <pl_ice> daejavu , maybe re-install packages? ...don't know :D mine worked within 15 min.
[04:03] <Hendric> its a built-in audiocard...
[04:03] <Hendric> i don't have a PCI sound card
[04:03] <daejavu> pl_ice, im gonna uninstall it and let the system detect the for new devices again
[04:03] <bigfoot1> onkarshinde, okay, i've installed libexif10 and libexif-gtk4. Readme also requires xmlrpc-c-1.2, but synaptic doesn't have this.
[04:03] <christian-> Hendric, so it just detects it wrong and then it won't work ?
[04:03] <pl_ice> daejavu ,what whole system? :> don't do that...
[04:03] <arhizs> how bout gaming in ubuntu? can it support MMORPG like ragnarok
[04:04] <bigfoot1> onkarshinde, should i get  xmlrpc-c-1.2 from http://xmlrpc-c.sourceforge.net?
[04:04] <Hendric> yes christian
[04:04] <stoeptegel> how do you update a kernel the right way?
[04:04] <onkarshinde> bigfoot1: That you will have to install from its homepage same way as you were trying to install your program
[04:04] <onkarshinde> stoeptegel: What do you mean exactly?
[04:05] <bigfoot1> onkarshinde, that's the only way to go, right+
[04:05] <bigfoot1> ?
[04:05] <bigfoot1> since the exact file is not in the repos.
[04:05] <christian-> Hendric, Oh. Well, then I'm not sure what to do. Have you tried !sound ?
[04:05] <christian-> as in
[04:05] <christian-> !sound
[04:05] <ubotu> somebody said sound was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/
[04:05] <onkarshinde> bigfoot1: Yup. And if your program still gives error then I suppose you will have to install libexif from its site also.
[04:05] <stoeptegel> onkarshinde, i've installed a new kernel with synaptic, but it isn't anywhere on my system
[04:06] <bigfoot1> onkarshinde, that makes sense. here i go...
[04:06] <Hendric> yes.. !sound told me to 'lspci -v' thats why i knew ubuntu has seen my scard as AC'97 instead of CMEDIA
[04:06] <pilgrim_executer> can anyone help with joystick? jscalibrator works fine but nothing else picks up the axis
[04:06] <onkarshinde> stoeptegel: what do you mean it is not on system Updated kernel replaces old one. Specifically if it is done from Synaptic
[04:06] <Skid> hi, i've just plugged my ipaq (4150) into my laptop, and from messages,it's recognised ok
[04:07] <Skid> but how do i actualyl get stuff off it ?
[04:07] <Skid> the palm devices doens't work, as it tries to send my user/uid to the pda, which obv runs windows...
[04:08] <Chambers`> does evolution not have the exchange connector installed by default?  I can't connect to any exchange server for email.  I click on Server Type - Microsoft Exchange and then i only see a spot for username, I put my username in but the "next" doesn't highlight
[04:08] <stoeptegel> onkarshinde, well in only knows apt-get or synaptic installed a new kernel (it's also listed there as installed) but it's not there in grub and not in /boot, it's stays booting the old kernel. (and that for a newly fresh installed hoary)
[04:08] <Secreth`X> lol stoeptegel leuke naam
[04:09] <Hendric> breezy installs slower than hoary
[04:09] <Chambers`> can someone help me out?
[04:09] <taco_> q: how can i auto install .rpm files?
[04:09] <Chambers`> convert them with alien
[04:09] <onkarshinde> stoeptegel: How do you know it is old kernel?
[04:09] <Chambers`> then sudo dpkg -i ...rpm
[04:10] <pilgrim_executer> can anyone tell me where joystick settings are kept?
[04:10] <atha> Chambers`: evolution-exchange package
[04:10] <apokryphos> Chambers`: no, you dpkg the .deb pack 8)
[04:10] <whyameye> I can't figure out how to use tightVNC to connect to a remote computer.
[04:10] <Hendric> taco_, or sudo alien -i package.rpm
[04:10] <Chambers`> oops, that's what i ment :P
[04:10] <Chambers`> atha: it says the package is installed
[04:10] <onkarshinde> whyameye: as far as I know tightVNC is java based. Have you installed Java?
[04:11] <stoeptegel> onkarshinde: that's what $ uname -a and conky tells me
[04:11] <bigfoot1> onkarshinde, i am having trouble finding xmlrpc-c-1.2  at http://xmlrpc-c.sourceforge.net
[04:11] <stoeptegel> onkarshinde: (and the bootmenu)
[04:11] <onkarshinde> stoeptegel: See if you can gind any linux-image**.deb file in /var/cache/apt/archives
[04:12] <onkarshinde> bigfoot1: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=16847
[04:12] <Chambers`> does anyone else connect to exchange with evolution?  When I click on Exchange as Server type, I don't get the correct boxes (that asks for server and all that)  Is this a bug?
[04:12] <pl_ice> hey, any ideas why aMule leaves last ~2-3 Mbs, and can't d/l them? all the time ...
[04:12] <whyameye> onkarshinde, I think I'm okay with running tightVNC, but I can't figure out configuration. The remote tunnels the VNC through SSH.
[04:13] <hubsi> hi, have a problem. since i have installed ubuntu new and added backports i cant install java etc...
[04:13] <nalioth_wrkn> hubsi: hoary or breezy
[04:13] <dobie> q: First program install attempt - installing xmms.  have files..  ran "./configure"  but got error -> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH See `config.log' for more details.
[04:13] <hubsi> hoary
[04:13] <onkarshinde> whyameye: I am not familiar with tightVNC. I would use the default vnc client
[04:13] <nalioth> hubsi: http://www.giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/
[04:13] <hubsi> but 2 month before i could install them
[04:13] <onkarshinde> hubsi: backport has nothing to do with java.
[04:14] <dobie> Just installed ubuntu this morning and trying it/linux out   Nothing else has been done
[04:14] <nalioth> hubsi: legalities were made known to the ubuntu team
[04:14] <stoeptegel> onkarshinde: one kernel: the one uname says i'am running
[04:14] <whyameye> onkarshinde: the default vnc client is...??
[04:14] <hubsi> ah ok
[04:14] <pl_ice> nalioth , what u mean? ...
[04:14] <nalioth> pl_ice: what do i mean about what?
[04:15] <pl_ice> nalioth , that legalities were made know ...
[04:15] <onkarshinde> whyameye: Some command like xvncviewer should launch it, if it is installed
[04:15] <nalioth> pl_ice: java from sun is not supposed to be redistributed
[04:15] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, (its me with the MD5 prob )i have burned another CD, now trying again, if this time a error happens ill note the modul which was inflicted
[04:16] <onkarshinde> stoeptegel: Did you try to find if there is any linux-image**.deb in /var/cache/apt/archive/ ?
[04:16] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, whish me luck :/
[04:16] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, whish me luck ^_~
[04:16] <pl_ice> nalioth ,hm, so u're saying that it cannot be on b/ports; ...no good
[04:16] <bigfoot1> onkarshinde, oh, thanks .I see it now. There are later versions available. SHould i get the latest one (1.03.05)?
[04:16] <Answer> Question:  Why can't Linux read NTFS file systems?
[04:16] <havoc> it can
[04:16] <nalioth> pl_ice: i just posted a link to some ubuntu debs. do you run hoary or breezy?
[04:17] <apokryphos> Answer: it can
[04:17] <nalioth> Answer: it can't WRITE to NTFS
[04:17] <digitize> support for ntfs is actually now built into the kernel
[04:17] <pl_ice> hoary
[04:17] <stoeptegel> onkarshinde: yes there is one: the one i'am running now, the old one
[04:17] <nalioth> pl_ice: so see the URL i jus posted to hubsi
[04:17] <onkarshinde> bigfoot1: It is better to get a 1.2 version. You never know what things have changed between 1.2 & 1.3
[04:17] <dobie> Just installed ubuntu this morning and trying it/linux out   Nothing else has been done
[04:17] <dobie> q: First program install attempt - installing xmms.  have files..  ran "./configure"  but got error -> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH See `config.log' for more details.
[04:17] <pl_ice> nalioth , yeh got my java etc. but just was wondering, if on b/ports will be stopped distrib. java ...
[04:17] <hubsi> but there are more packages i cant find, acroread, flash, gftp etc
[04:18] <stoeptegel> onkarshinde: linux-image-2.6.10-5-386_2.6.1
[04:18] <bigfoot1> onkarshinde, okay. i just always think that having the latest version is the best thing to do.
[04:18] <nalioth> pl_ice: yes they will
[04:18] <ompaul> dobie, that is not how you install software on ubuntu
[04:18] <nalioth> hubsi: when seveas comes in, talk to him. he will point you out those things
[04:18] <ompaul> dobie, this is a platform with 17k+ packages all ready and waiting
[04:18] <hubsi> ok, thanks
[04:18] <onkarshinde> stoeptegel: So it is not updated at all. Do you have any idea if there is any problem with your synaptic configuration?
[04:18] <dobie> ompaul - thanks..i've tryed mandrake before..so trying what I ..kind of knew :P
[04:19] <ompaul> dobie, use system - administration - synaptic package manager, using source is last resource :)
[04:19] <Secreth`X> :/ I have some problems with the Live CD of hoary..
[04:19] <dobie> ompaul - I see RPM there...but didn't seam to do anything - I typed cmd as: rpm -i <package name> .
[04:19] <ompaul> dobie, sudo apt-get install xmms
[04:19] <hubsi> is breezy stable now?
[04:19] <stoeptegel> onkarshinde: no not that i'am aware of, i also have md5sums of my $PATH which apears to be ok
[04:19] <ompaul> hubsi, on the 13th of Oct
[04:19] <onkarshinde> dobie: You can also install beep media player which is a fork of xmms and now used GTK2. Xmms still uses GTK 1.2
[04:19] <hubsi> ok thanks
[04:20] <dobie> ompaul - k.. will give it a run.  ...
[04:20] <onkarshinde> stoeptegel: Have you changed your /etc/apt/sources/list recently or after install?
[04:20] <Hendric> anyone here fixed the Gyach bug (closes without warning)?? pls help
[04:20] <ompaul> dobie, the synaptic tool is easy to use - have a look at it and repositories - and mark these words  -Backports Are Evil
[04:20] <dobie> onkarshinde: I see... me still a noob yet... I'll play with what I got... learn to uninstall and try beep afterwards.... assuming I make it that far! hehe
[04:21] <ompaul> dobie, translated as use them if you dare, but please don't complain if they break stuff
[04:21] <onkarshinde> dobie: No probs. XMMS is a great player and does what it says perfectly.
[04:21] <ompaul> dobie, one last thing I will get the bot to tell you about repos have a look at that before you go any further, will help a lot
[04:21] <stoeptegel> onkarshinde: yup did that, i have some lists: the official with a backport in it, and the one from ubuntuguide as an alternative when i need some universe packages
[04:22] <jmeeter> hey
[04:22] <jmeeter> can someone help me?
[04:22] <whyameye> onkarshinde: thanks for the tip on using xvncviewer. Now I can view the other computer, but I can't control it...
[04:22] <dobie> ompaul - sorry dude...I'm just a windozer so far... you saying that xmms is backporting?  I"m not following closely enough on that one...
[04:22] <onkarshinde> stoeptegel: Please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list into peatebin
[04:22] <nalioth> jmeeter: if you ask a question
[04:22] <dobie> ompaul - no prob... I understand the reading that's ahead.... same as when I started with Dos I had a lot of reading... thanks
[04:22] <onkarshinde> whyameye: There must be some option to allow keyboard and mouse input. I think by default it is off.
[04:22] <jmeeter> How do I get Flash working with Ubuntu 5.10?
[04:23] <onkarshinde> jmeeter: !flash
[04:23] <onkarshinde> sorry
[04:23] <jmeeter> !flash
[04:23] <ubotu> somebody said flash was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:23] <ompaul> dobie, no I did not, what I said was if you use backports please be aware that they are evil - stay away from them :) - now as a windows user - use System - administration - Synaptic Package Manager - BUT first read what the bot will send you on repos
[04:23] <pl_ice> !nokia
[04:23] <ubotu> pl_ice: Are you on ritalin?
[04:23] <pl_ice> :/
[04:23] <onkarshinde> stoeptegel: If you can do it fast. I have to go home.
[04:24] <dell500> does anyone know how to make the screen fit the monitor, i seem to have some of the other monitor on my second crt
[04:24] <jmeeter> I get
[04:24] <stoeptegel> onkarshinde: done but it's not working
[04:24] <jmeeter> Reading package lists... Done
[04:24] <jmeeter> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:24] <jmeeter> E: Couldn't find package flashplugin-nonfree
[04:24] <Anak1n> n particije
[04:24] <Anak1n> ups
[04:24] <whyameye> onkarshinde: I can't find the option you are looking for in the man pages. Still looking...
[04:24] <stoeptegel> onkarshinde: thanks for the help anyway
[04:24] <jmeeter> Don't I have to add extra repositories or something?
[04:24] <bigfoot1> onkarshinde, is it easy to undo the installation/builidng/compiling of a file?
[04:24] <onkarshinde> stoeptegel: Can you please paste your sources.list in pastebin so that I can read it?
[04:25] <daejavu> man do i Hate  ati drivers !!
[04:25] <ompaul> jmeeter, don't flood, when you ahve a few lines of text please use paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:25] <onkarshinde> bigfoot1: Normally when you compile from source, you use make install for installation. In same way you can use make uninstall
[04:25] <er4z0r> can anyone tell me how to access a WebDav resource from a windows client?
[04:25] <daejavu> pl_ice, when u used synaptic for the driver installation .. did u ran fglrxconfig  after that ?
[04:26] <er4z0r> I mean how do I notice its actually webdav not normal http?
[04:26] <ompaul> No manual entry for do i Hate  ati drivers
[04:26] <onkarshinde> jmeeter: You should enable multiverse repository in /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:26] <jmeeter> How??
[04:26] <pl_ice> daejavu neh, i heard that it isn't really good
[04:26] <Secreth`X> Can someone tell me why the live CD is not working when I insert it and then reboot?
[04:26] <ompaul> Secreth`X, define not working?
[04:26] <dobie> ompaul - not a prob...it's the backports part i'm not sure of what you mean.  I hear backports I think either a) older software wanting older libraries? or B) another installing means outside normal checks a system normally wants - such as forceing windows to accept a program by manually placing files, settings, and bypassing the windows installer?
[04:26] <Chambers`> ok, so who would i talk to regarding a bug in evolution?  Ubuntu guys or gnome guys?  I reinstalled the Exchange connector and when I click on ServerType: Exchange, the only configuration that comes up is username and nothing else, and I can't click ok, like it's waiting for more info
[04:26] <pl_ice> Secreth`X correct bios ? ...
[04:26] <stoeptegel> onkarshinde: i did that, but i think it doesn't work for some reason(?)
[04:27] <Secreth`X> I just get windows for some reason
[04:27] <Anak1n> Secreth X: did U change boot order in bios?
[04:27] <BiSK-8> hello
[04:27] <jmeeter> onkarshinde, How do I enable multiverse repositories?
[04:27] <ompaul> Secreth`X, change your bios to boot from the CDrom
[04:27] <daejavu> pl_ice, from where u got ur repositories of apt ?
[04:27] <Secreth`X> err no I didn't Anak1n and honestly I dont know how
[04:27] <onkarshinde> jmeeter: Sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list. Find the line that includes 'hoary main restricted' and add multiverse at the end.
[04:27] <BiSK-8> how do i get GStreamer to play files with totem?
[04:27] <dobie> btw - sudo command worked and installed xmms fine..... boy but the reading that ahead of me :P  seams big at first....smaller afterwards hehe
[04:27] <pl_ice> daejavu unofficital ubuntu guide
[04:27] <daejavu> ahhhh
[04:28] <ompaul> dobie, backports are 'future packages' will be in the next version - and sometimes they cause a looooot of pain
[04:28] <onkarshinde> BiSK-8: Totem uses GStreamer by default
[04:28] <Anak1n> Secret`X: when U r cpu iz booting press del and U'll enter the bios
[04:28] <ompaul> dobie, pm?
[04:28] <Secreth`X> k
[04:28] <ompaul> Secreth`X, what kind of machine is it?
[04:28] <BiSK-8> onkarshinde: i know but it says 2 install it, totem dosent work
[04:28] <daejavu> pl_ice, btw .. what games u play on ur ubuntu system ?
[04:28] <stoeptegel> onkarshinde: i hope it worked now
[04:28] <Anak1n> Secret`X: then find boot and change to cd rom to be 1st
[04:28] <jmeeter> onkarshinde, I just add the worse multiverse at the end?
[04:28] <dobie> ompaul Ahhh... i'm on the same page now...I understands.   pm? = pardon me?
[04:28] <onkarshinde> jmeeter: Yes.
[04:28] <bigfoot1> in some blogs i see the term "./    what does this set of 3 characters mean? I don't think it's referring to the geek website is it+
[04:28] <bigfoot1> ?
[04:29] <onkarshinde> stoeptegel: link please
[04:29] <Secreth`X> Anak1n: ok I'll try
[04:29] <pl_ice> daejavu , i got over 100 gig compressed games :/ just started thief3 but some problems ...
[04:29] <ompaul> dobie, private message -
[04:29] <Anak1n> ok
[04:29] <bigfoot1> "/.  i think it is.
[04:29] <dobie> ompaul - I gotta run... someone's just shown up....   ahh.. private message.. understand... thanks man.. I would.. but I  gotta run....
[04:29] <stoeptegel> onkarshinde: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d2660
[04:29] <Anak1n> can someone tell me about cedega will it work on ubuntu 5.04?
[04:30] <daejavu> pl_ice, thief 3 on Ubuntu !   u use cedega ?
[04:30] <ompaul> Anak1n, pay for it and ask the makers for support
[04:30] <pl_ice> daejavu yeh
[04:30] <Anak1n> ok
[04:30] <bigfoot1> if windows xp were free, would you use it?
[04:30] <Anak1n> is there any free emulator?
[04:30] <bigfoot1> i wonder how many people use linux out of cost reasons
[04:30] <ompaul> Anak1n, wine
[04:30] <Anak1n> bugfootl: NO!!!
[04:30] <daejavu> Anak1n, u can get a free version of Cedega ...
[04:31] <Anak1n> ompaul thanks
[04:31] <onkarshinde> stoeptegel: Are you using synaptic?
[04:31] <Anak1n> deajavu: where?
[04:31] <jmeeter> onkarshinde, this is what I see http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2663
[04:31] <ompaul> Anak1n, wine - (stands for wine is not an emulator) is what you want
[04:31] <jmeeter> Where do I make the changes?
[04:31] <daejavu> Anak1n, http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=45
[04:31] <Secreth`X> Anak1n: Ok, did it, it's working, thanks!
[04:31] <Anak1n> deajavu: thanks
[04:31] <BiSK-8> how do i set xmms to my default media player?
[04:32] <Anak1n> no problem
[04:32] <Anak1n> ;)
[04:32] <Hendric> Anak1n, im using cedega with hoary.. i play GW, WOW and its great
[04:32] <daejavu> Anak1n, np
[04:32] <onkarshinde> jmeeter: the line that saya  #debhttp://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntubreezyuniverse. Remove # and add multiverse at the end.
[04:32] <Anak1n> cool I just want to play Warcraft III
[04:32] <XHK> Why my sound is always muted, when i startup gnome?
[04:33] <bigfoot1> onkarshinde, i got error message when I did "make install" of the xmlrpc file. please refer to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2664
[04:33] <daejavu> Anak1n, u can play that using Wine as well .. need a little tweekin tough
[04:33] <Hendric> Anak1n, warcraft III is no sweat in cedega
[04:33] <onkarshinde> bigfoot1: I don't use linux for cost reasons. I installed XP and within month i had lots of worms and viruses. That machine was to be used by my dad. So I installed Ubuntu and dumped XP.
[04:33] <christian-> Hendric, so.. I "just" download this "Cedega" and then I can install WoW ?
[04:33] <XHK> Why my sound is always muted, when i startup gnome?
[04:34] <Anak1n> Hendric: How do U mean it works with suse
[04:34] <stoeptegel> onkarshinde: well not totally, it's kynaptic
[04:34] <pl_ice> onkarshinde  :) now i got no problems with worms etc :D
[04:34] <pl_ice> after kicking xp out
[04:34] <ompaul> XHK, please wait about 15 minutes before reasking your question - people are busy and will answer typically in that amount of time - if not then ask again
[04:34] <onkarshinde> bigfoot1: Either do sudo make and add suo for every next make command or directly use Root Terminal from Applications->System Tols
[04:34] <Hendric> Anak1n, with suse? i dunno...
[04:35] <Anak1n> Hendric: dunoo????? :S
[04:35] <onkarshinde> stoeptegel: So you are on KUbuntu right?
[04:35] <whyameye> onkarshinde: just thought I'd tell you the problem I was having with vnc is that I am an idiot. The remote has 2 passwords: 1 for view only and 1 for control. I had forgotten and only remembered the viewonly password. No I remember the other password and it works. Thanks for your help.
[04:35] <Hendric> Anak1n, as i've said i use hoary
[04:35] <Anak1n> ok
[04:36] <jmeeter> onkarshinde, This is now what I get: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2665
[04:37] <jmeeter> =\
[04:37] <thespore> Can someone tell me how I can disable the middle mouse button (scroll-wheel) from pasting when clicked?
[04:37] <Secreth`X> Woah, Ubuntu is cool :D
[04:37] <onkarshinde> jmeeter: Paste your sources.list again
[04:37] <bigfoot1> onkarshinde, ok. so i backtracked and ran sudo make. I got an error message. please refer to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2666
[04:37] <stoeptegel> onkarshinde: yes
[04:38] <concept10> nalioth, im already here
[04:38] <devchris> ferfs gay
[04:38] <justin_> HELLO
[04:38] <justin_> SUCK IT
[04:38] <BiSK-8> i installed gnome-bluetooth, how can i use it now, im on breezy. and i dont know where the run terminal is
[04:38] <devchris> fu
[04:38] <justin_> no
[04:38] <kurtbec> anyone here done a switch from Gentoo to ubunut?  pros/cons.
[04:38] <jmeeter> onkarshinde, Here is my sources.list: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2667
[04:38] <onkarshinde> bigfoot1: Either that xmlrpc depends on something else, which is highly possible or something is screwed up
[04:38] <ompaul> Conduct devchris and justin_
[04:38] <devchris> wow everyone on this hasnt got laid yet
[04:38] <d33p> concept10, now I'm here
[04:39] <thespore> Can someone tell me how I can disable the middle mouse button (scroll-wheel) from pasting when clicked?
[04:39] <d33p>  my problem is that I have a hell of apt dependencies problems in my ubuntu, even my x don't work, so I'm trying to find out a way of reinstalling with all new packages without formating/loosing my configs
[04:39] <christian-> !Cedega
[04:39] <ubotu> help for cedega is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/index.php?title=Main_Page
[04:39] <bigfoot1> onkarshinde, the prerequisites seem to be 0. Refer to the copied text (of readme) at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2668
[04:40] <riddlebox> hello
[04:40] <nalioth> concept10: in your xchat server dialog, click on "freenode" then "edit".  put YOUR pass in the "server password" box
[04:40] <SMEXE> Hey, can anyone help me?  I've got the exact same problem as: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=68378
[04:40] <BiSK-8> can any1 help me?
[04:40] <riddlebox> can anyone explain to me how I allow root to log in?
[04:40] <concept10> nalioth, its already there...
[04:41] <jmeeter> onkarshinde, Here is my sources.list: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2667
[04:41] <onkarshinde> jmeeter: Have you done sudo apt-get update?
[04:41] <daejavu> riddlebox, use ubuntuguide.org .. itll tell u how to do that
[04:41] <riddlebox> ok
[04:41] <jmeeter> no, i'll do it now
[04:41] <Hendric> breezy needs almost 2 hours to install on an AMD semrpon 2200 with 128MB RAM
[04:41] <justin_> jklqwdljdsflsdjf;sdvf
[04:41] <concept10> nalioth, I think my setup doesnt identify fast enough, because I have xhat connect to #ubuntu on start
[04:42] <SMEXE> ..anyone?
[04:42] <onkarshinde> I am signing off.
[04:42] <nalioth> concept10: if you do what i suggested, you'll never again see -unregged
[04:42] <christian-> What
[04:42] <concept10> d33p, are you attempting to breezy?
[04:42] <jmeeter> OMG
[04:42] <nalioth> daejavu: dont recommend ubuntuguide blindly
[04:42] <christian-> 's the difference between Cedega and Cedega CVS ?
[04:43] <nalioth> christian-: you pay for cedega
[04:43] <concept10> nalioth, thats already done...I have my nickserv password in both boxes
[04:43] <d33p> concept10, yes
[04:43] <christian-> nalioth, is that it ?
[04:43] <ompaul> thespore, middle click is normal behaviour, it will be hard to disable part of the function, I think google would have more answers than here atm but I could be wrong
[04:43] <highvoltage> hi. how do i check out of which package a file comes, such as md5sum?
[04:43] <nalioth> concept10: you dont need it in the 'nickserv' box
[04:43] <bigfoot1> guys; in a readme that says " $ ./configure" what does the dollar sign stand for+
[04:43] <bigfoot1> ?
[04:43] <daejavu> nalioth, copy that .... ummm may i know the reason ?
[04:43] <Darknight> hello
[04:43] <nalioth> highvoltage: in a terminal, apt-cache search
[04:44] <thespore> ompaul, gah.. okay i just scroll through code alot, and i don't realize that i've middle-clicked and my code gets all screwed up, will check google more
[04:44] <jmeeter> Can someone help my configure Ubuntu to play sound for me?
[04:44] <nalioth> ubotu: tell daejavu about ubuntuguide
[04:44] <concept10> nalioth, oh, just the server box?
[04:44] <d33p> concept10, gonna try fixing my apt stuff
[04:44] <nalioth> concept10: yessir
[04:44] <Darknight> how i can configure my tv card? anyone know (breezy)?
[04:44] <highvoltage> nalioth: i mean, how do i find out from which package a file such as /usr/bin/md5sum comes out of
[04:44] <concept10> nalioth, thanks
[04:45] <ompaul> thespore, you will have to become more light fingered you can also go up and down with page up and page down if that helps
[04:45] <Darknight> jmeeter, turn off in mixer analog jack
[04:45] <Darknight> if you have one
[04:45] <nalioth> concept10: as soon as your client makes contact with the irc server, it sends that pass (it doesn wait around for nickserv to wake up)
[04:45] <jmeeter> Darknight, I don't know what a mixer analog jack is.
[04:45] <highvoltage> aha. dpkg -S /usr/bin/md5sum
[04:45] <Darknight> jmeeter, what soundcard?
[04:45] <BiSK-8> what's amules, razorback2 server name and ip address and port number????
[04:45] <highvoltage> comes out of dpkg, strangely.
[04:45] <thespore> ompual, lol ya i know.. just stuck in my ways ya know ;-)
[04:46] <thespore> ompual, loooks like it's an x feature
[04:46] <ompaul> XHK, hoary or breezy?
[04:46] <pl_ice> BiSK-8  2.0 or ? 2.x
[04:46] <spacedman> running ubuntu 5.10 preview, if i close the lid of my dell 110L (latitiude), wait, then open, the screen stays black. machine is okay, i can ssh into it np... any clues or pointers to 'fixing acpi/Xorg problems?'
[04:46] <ompaul> thespore, has been as long as I have been using X
[04:46] <ompaul> thespore, 10 years
[04:47] <jmeeter> Darknight, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=377699&postcount=15 - That should tell you which soundcard I have.
[04:47] <ompaul> thespore, check for disable third button
[04:47] <BiSK-8> pl_ice: what???? the ip address and port number?
[04:47] <concept10> nalioth, Yeah, thats the problem.. it doesnt connect to nickserv fast enough before it tries to connect to #ubuntu I guess...
[04:47] <concept10> nalioth, youre on PPC correct?
[04:48] <nalioth> concept10: <snobbery>if you'd use a real client like irssi, you can script delays or anything you like into it </snobbery>
[04:48] <pl_ice> 64.34.162.138 :5661
[04:48] <nalioth> concept10: no intel/amd in my house
[04:48] <pl_ice> for razorback 2.0
[04:48] <ompaul> concept10, if the same password is put in both the nickserv and server settings in xchat no problem exists
[04:48] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, re
[04:48] <nalioth> ompaul: except concept10 keeps gettin put into -unregged
[04:49] <concept10> nalioth, and I talk to the new guys like a god in there
[04:49] <nalioth> concept10: a helpful god, i hope
[04:49] <ompaul> nalioth, yeap what is happening ther eis the password must also be in the 'server' and nickserv' boxes on xchat
[04:49] <erchache> i have a machine to make remote backups of other servers with a scsi dat and a dvdrw....any suggestions? amanda,bacula doesnt like me
[04:49] <concept10> nalioth, thats what I mean, :)
[04:49] <ompaul> *there is
[04:50] <ompaul> concept10, which client are you using?
[04:50] <nalioth> ompaul: i only have it in the 'server' box on my dogs xchat
[04:50] <nalioth> ompaul: and it works fine everytime
[04:50] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, i downloaded ubuntu 5.04 burned it onto a CD, then booting , then typed: server on "installing initrd.gz i got :" CRC Error system halted
[04:50] <nalioth> concept10: did you have a PowerPC question?
[04:50] <ompaul> nalioth, ahh
[04:50] <thespore> ompaul, guess the consensus is that it cannot be disabled.. (well without heavy source modificatins), that sucks.. guess i'll just have to live with the occasional source code screwup.. or maybe get a mouse that has a less-sensitive middle mouse button
[04:50] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: md5
[04:50] <concept10> nalioth, maybe you could answer this... the ubuntu-desktop meta-package has the base install for gnome.  how do I remove some apps without removing the entire bunch
[04:51] <concept10> ompaul, xchat 2.4.4
[04:51] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, yes i checked the md5 of this file
[04:51] <ompaul> thespore, I use a creative optical and it is fine
[04:51] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, yes i checked the md5 of this file it was same as it has to be on BOTH disk :??
[04:51] <nalioth> concept10: individually (dont worry about the ubuntu-desktop til dapper drake is ready (if you're using breezy now)
[04:51] <ompaul> thespore, it is so used that the silver is worn off one side :)
[04:51] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: did you md5 the disk?
[04:51] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, may be i need to tell u the PC config: p 233 mhz 128 MB ram
[04:51] <jmeeter> !seen Darknight
[04:51] <ubotu> darknight is currently on #ubuntu (8m 34s)
[04:51] <thespore> ompaul, i have a microsoft optical... that might be the problem ;-)
[04:52] <thespore> ompual, its at work.. so not sure where it actually came from
[04:52] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: perhaps you should choose "server install"
[04:52] <erchache> i have a machine to make remote backups of other servers with a scsi dat and a dvdrw....any suggestions? amanda,bacula doesnt like me
[04:52] <ilangut> hey ... can any one help a newbe with a breezy prob?
[04:52] <concept10> nalioth, when I attempt to remove evolution, it removes ubuntu-desktop and other stuff
[04:52] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, i did choose server
[04:52] <ompaul> thespore, how could you type that in here, that is like a nanosecond of bad karma :)
[04:52] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, i did choose server still i got the CRC Error message :/
[04:53] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, is there ANY possibility that this error apears if there is not enough FREE RAM or diskspace for the setup?
[04:53] <ilangut> the "system-->admin-->boot" dialog has vanished from my breezy since the last update... how can i bring it back?
[04:54] <thespore> ompaul, wha? lol.. sorry ya i know ms is known for good design ;-)
[04:54] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: you really should get that md5 program i pointed you to. it's a unix program made to run on windows
[04:54] <SMEXE> My network is unreachable, how can I fix that???
[04:54] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, what is the name?
[04:54] <thespore> ompual, end random mini ms rant.
[04:54] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: it will look at the cdrom:///ms5sum.txt and check your cd for integrity
[04:54] <Darknight> how i can configure my tv card? anyone know (breezy)?
[04:54] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, what is the nam? tell me the name and i get it!!
[04:54] <ilangut> newbee in need of help in gnome 2.12 on breezy
[04:55] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: http://www.pc-tools.net/win32/md5sums/
[04:55] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, thx soo much :)
[04:55] <nalioth> ilangut: guru in need of a real question
[04:55] <concept10> heh
[04:56] <ccooke> ilangut: WHhat help do you need?
[04:56] <Pelalil> Hi, I'm having problems restarting my laptop. I gets as far as "[4296342.610000]  Restarting system.", and the just hangs, and sits there as what aperars to be 100%cpu as the fan gets faster, and the air vent gets hotter
[04:56] <Pelalil> (shutting down is fine)
[04:56] <nerp> bah, finally got e17 working.. for some reason it would not read enlightenment.desktop but e17.desktop
[04:56] <nalioth> concept10: you should laugh, YOU are the guru i'm talking about
[04:56] <nalioth> nerp: cool
[04:56] <ccooke> Pelalil: what laptop? I have the same problem.
[04:57] <ilangut> cool .... since my last update my "system-->admin-->boot" menu has vanished...
[04:57] <Pelalil> ccooke: sony vaio VGN-S4XP
[04:57] <SMEXE> .....anyone?
[04:57] <concept10> nalioth, yeah.. right, i know how to keep gnome running my not messing around with the default install
[04:57] <concept10> :)
[04:57] <ccooke> Pelalil: interesting. Mine's a VGN-A397XP
[04:57] <christian-> --------- Error log - file /home/christian/.WineCVS/sources/cvscedega/ErrorLog : ---------
[04:57] <christian-> /home/christian/.WineCVS/Functions/RunWineCVS: line 736: cvs: command not found
[04:58] <ccooke> Pelalil: ... but there are several bugs that seem related already
[04:58] <christian-> I tried to apt-get this cvs thing
[04:58] <d33p> I've got unmet dependencies that 'apt-get -f install' doesn't solve, and I can't do anything else with apt to solve it, if it always asks for it
[04:58] <christian-> but that didn't work
[04:58] <zakame> heh, cvs
[04:58] <ccooke> Pelalil: There's currently no fix, I think. But the Breezy Kernel freeze hasn't happened yet, so it should be fixed in time.
[04:58] <christian-> I'm trying to install cefrga CVS
[04:58] <concept10> d33p, paste your error messages somewhere
[04:58] <christian-> argh, I mean Cedega CVS
[04:59] <Pelalil> ccooke: ah, cool, just as long as someone is looking at it:-)
[04:59] <Pelalil> thanks :-)
[04:59] <d33p> concept10, my X don't work and using bitchx for irc :( don't know how to paste somewhere like this
[05:00] <concept10> d33p, did you attempt to reconfigure xorg?
[05:00] <d33p> concept10, how I do that?
[05:00] <concept10> !xorg
[05:00] <ubotu> I guess xorg is sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:00] <d33p> concept10, trying to dist-upgrade, ok let me check !xorg
[05:00] <d33p> concept10, what does !xorg mean?
[05:00] <ccooke> Pelalil: ooh
[05:00] <ccooke> Pelalil: maybe a fix
[05:01] <ccooke> Pelalil: I'll try it on my laptop and let you know. Can you wait two minutes?
[05:01] <d33p> concept10, I'm still a newbie user in linux for some stuff even though using it for more than 4 years :(
[05:01] <Pelalil> ccooke: sure, thanks :-)
[05:01] <Pelalil> btw im running 2.6.12-9-686
[05:02] <kurtbec> anybody here running breezy full time?
[05:02] <ccooke> same here
[05:02] <ccooke> kurtbec: yes.
[05:02] <ompaul> d33p, that is asking the bot (ubotu - and not a toy) for information on xorg the ! command queues the bot and the word after that is the information requested - not eveyerything is in there
[05:02] <concept10> d33p, okay - run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:02] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, i have now the programm, what value should i look into??
[05:02] <kurtbec> ccooke: how stable has breezy been for you?
[05:02] <d33p> concept10, oooohhh ok ok, felt stupid for a sec there =)
[05:02] <concept10> d33p, !xorg means 'get ubotu get into on xorg'
[05:02] <eldad> hi, I'm using an HP pavillion laptop and I can't seem to get my ubuntu (neither HOARY nor BRERZY) to use the Digital Media card reader
[05:03] <ccooke> kurtbec: very solid. Lots of updates, but only a couple of app crashes
[05:03] <oasick> hi everybody
[05:03] <apokryphos> hi
[05:03] <oasick> how can i install qt themes?
[05:03] <kurtbec> ccooke: any apps in particular that are notorious for bombing?
[05:03] <oasick> i use gnome
[05:04] <oasick> and the qt aplications i see very bad
[05:05] <Shin_Gouki> hi everyone, what are the minimum specs for a ubuntu server install?
[05:05] <SMEXE> Again, can anyone help me with my network problem?
[05:05] <d33p> how, do I start X, after trying to fix the problem without rebooting?
[05:05] <snorks> scryll is now in the process of resubscribing my account
[05:05] <kurtbec> alright so if I'm going to try ubuntu for the first time do i do hoary or breezy?
[05:05] <Shin_Gouki> restart x server?
[05:05] <snorks> wrong channel
[05:05] <pl_ice> Shin_Gouki i got it on 300 mhz but need min 90 mb of ram, can't use kde/gnome
[05:05] <ompaul> apokryphos, +r ?
[05:05] <haley> in the live cd there is a wireless applet where is that in the install?
[05:05] <mjr> kurtbec, I'd just go for the stable release then, Hoary, that is
[05:05] <d33p> Shin_Gouki, first time it didn't start for error and want to try again
[05:05] <Shin_Gouki> pl_ice how did u install?
[05:06] <Shin_Gouki> d33p try xFRee help not here in ubuntuu
[05:06] <apokryphos> ompaul: yup
[05:06] <d33p> Shin_Gouki, ok sorry
[05:06] <ompaul> ta
[05:07] <pl_ice> Shin_Gouki at the boot, just type server, or press F4 (i think) for help, try to get access to internet while installing
[05:07] <Shin_Gouki> i typed server: thats what happend:
[05:07] <SMEXE> ..please? :(
[05:07] <Shin_Gouki>  i burned it to CDR, but when booting error on loading initrd.gz came:" CRC Error  System halted"
[05:07] <pl_ice> SMEXE , did u post the interfaces? file
[05:08] <SMEXE> yeah, I did..
[05:08] <pl_ice> ok :)
[05:09] <pl_ice> SMEXE , there is nothing there :)
[05:09] <pl_ice> no wonder it doesn't work ;)
[05:09] <Shin_Gouki> pl_ice , were may i find a listing of ubuntuu install errors and HOW to handle them??
[05:10] <SMEXE> pl_ice: eh? :/ I thought it was ok.. just missing the gateway.. :?
[05:10] <pl_ice> Shin_Gouki i didn't have problems :/ u know www.ubuntuforums.org ?
[05:10] <pl_ice> SMEXE will post it, in a sec or 2
[05:10] <Answer> Question: Does anybody use scrot or other screenshot programs?  Can you capture display 0 ?
[05:10] <Shin_Gouki> pl_ice , ok other question i have the iso, im running win9x , can i install from here? or DO I need to boot?
[05:10] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: you have an md5 error
[05:11] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, it seems i havnt :/
[05:11] <ccooke> Pelalil: ... nope. Sorry.
[05:11] <Pelalil> thanks anyway :-)
[05:11] <SMEXE> pl_ice: Oh, ok thanks..
[05:12] <pl_ice> Shin_Gouki , u need to rebot it, (make sure u burn the iso... ;)  )  then upon boot: press one of F1 etc, there is a good help
[05:12] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, thats the value i got from ur tool: ubuntuu : d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e
[05:13] <pl_ice> :/msg daejavu though i had to install, but looks like it's just compressed
[05:13] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, were do i find the values to compare with??, onwebsite i simply found the MD5 value for whole CD??
[05:13] <Answer> Question: Does anybody use scrot or other screenshot programs?  Can you capture display 0 ?
[05:14] <ompaul> xmms can't find audio but beep does :)
[05:14] <Shin_Gouki> use ALSA its pretty cool
[05:14] <Shin_Gouki> at least with my knoppix ;)
[05:14] <Stalwart> if i have 2 NICs (nvidia integrated and realtek pci) what will be eth0?
[05:15] <Shin_Gouki> but now i want HD install ubuntuu and i can even enter setup -_-
[05:15] <Shin_Gouki> stalwart look at the MSC :)
[05:15] <Shin_Gouki> MAC
[05:15] <vengeful> Hi :-)
[05:15] <deFrysk> integrated is on mine eth1
[05:15] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, do u read me?
[05:16] <Stalwart> Shin_Gouki, nic's are sorted by MACs in alphabetical order? o.O
[05:16] <Shin_Gouki> question: is there ANY way to enable a detailed Error log while the installation process of ubuntu?
[05:17] <Shin_Gouki> stalwart NO
[05:17] <ompaul> Shin_Gouki, not that I am aware of, what is bugging you?
[05:17] <SMEXE> pl_ice: Thanks for posting it.. but how do I edit the file again?
[05:17] <Shin_Gouki> stalwart but if u want to know what card is ethXYZ then use the MAC ^^
[05:18] <pl_ice> SMEXE sudo vi /etc/network/interfaces
[05:18] <Stalwart> Shin_Gouki, no, i want to know what card will be primary
[05:18] <Shin_Gouki> I downloaded ubuntu 5.04, MD5 sum on my HD same as on Website, i burned it to CDR, but while
[05:18] <Shin_Gouki> installing initrd.gz i get:
[05:18] <Shin_Gouki> :" CRC Error  System halted"
[05:18] <Shin_Gouki> stalwart U can configue ;)
[05:18] <Stalwart> Shin_Gouki, i haven't installed ubuntu yet
[05:18] <pl_ice> SMEXE hm, do better, sudo gedit  , then open the file, easier
[05:18] <Stalwart> Shin_Gouki, default!
[05:18] <ompaul>  Shin_Gouki did you look in there /var/log/debian-installer
[05:19] <Shin_Gouki> were i may find this? on HD?
[05:19] <SMEXE> pl_ice: Oh, ok thanks.. brb :)
[05:19] <ompaul> Shin_Gouki, yes
[05:19] <ompaul> Shin_Gouki, got alive CD ?
[05:19] <ompaul> Shin_Gouki,  is it partitioning?
[05:19] <Shin_Gouki> ompaul, no install
[05:19] <ompaul> Shin_Gouki, hoary/breezy?
[05:19] <christian-> !JRE
[05:19] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, christian-
[05:19] <christian-> darn !
[05:20] <Shin_Gouki> ompaul, what is partigioning? after i type : "server" i get the CRC Error
[05:20] <christian-> I'm trying to install JRE, heh, but I really haven't got a clue about how to do it.
[05:20] <ompaul> Shin_Gouki, hoary I see your eariler post
[05:20] <haley> anyone know the name of the applet used to monitor wifi signal strength?
[05:20] <christian-> https://sdlcweb1b.sun.com/ECom/EComActionServlet;jsessionid=7BFC0703E703078F22112EEF623D3085 <- I'm trying to download it from there
[05:21] <haley> in the livecd?
[05:21] <ompaul> Shin_Gouki, right so, have you got a working linux system atm?
[05:21] <christian-> I downloaded with and with out RPM
[05:21] <Shin_Gouki> ompaul , NO i m on with ATM with win9x.. but I WANT LINUX
[05:21] <christian-> But both are *.bin files, and I haven't got a clue what to do with them
[05:22] <BooZee> snorks: hey, you here?
[05:22] <ompaul> looks like it did not burn correctly
[05:22] <Shin_Gouki> ompaul here my HW specs: p 233 Mhz , 128 MR RAM , 6 GB Diskspace
[05:22] <snorks> BooZee: i am
[05:23] <Shin_Gouki> ompaul , how do i verify that i did burn correctly?
[05:23] <ptlo> hmm...is there a "manual" way to set keyboard in X? i'm testing breezy and gnome-keyboard-properities can't enable  my keyboard layout, i'd like to investigate why
[05:23] <Centaur5> How can you find out if ubuntu included infrared support in the precompiled kernel it installed?
[05:23] <ompaul> Shin_Gouki, see if you can find a program called md5sum for windows and run it against the CD
[05:23] <ompaul> Shin_Gouki, cd image on the win machine for a start
[05:24] <SMEXE> pl_ice: Didn't work.. and now Networking won't even open for me.. :(
[05:24] <Shin_Gouki> ompual , yes i did the md5 was ok from the image
[05:25] <Shin_Gouki> ompual , however how do i check if the CD is burned correctly?
[05:25] <ompaul> Shin_Gouki, I do not know how to do this on windows - but copy the image file to the windows machine and do md5sum on it
[05:25] <ompaul> Shin_Gouki, not the disk but the image - you need to figure that out from your burning software
[05:26] <Shin_Gouki> ompual , idid use nero as i said the imgae on HD had a CORRECT md5
[05:26] <ompaul> Shin_Gouki, maybe it does not work with your hardware
[05:26] <Shin_Gouki> ompual , what does not work with my HW?
[05:26] <ompaul> Shin_Gouki, i'll have a quick look on thenew
[05:27] <ompaul> Shin_Gouki, ubuntu
[05:27] <Shin_Gouki> O_O
[05:27] <ompaul> Shin_Gouki, it is a fairly low spec machine but it might
[05:27] <Shin_Gouki> u say Pentium MMX is NOT supported??
[05:27] <jjazz> How can I scan for available wireless networks?
[05:27] <ompaul> Shin_Gouki, no I said I will look now please give me a couple of minutes to do that
[05:28] <Shin_Gouki> ompaul , i give u all time u need
[05:28] <Shin_Gouki> jjazz do not use wireless it sucks :P
[05:28] <vengeful> Hi:-) I have the 5.10 preview installed and have alittle uestion. I see theres an update for xorg and such..should i install this? Basicly i have tried debian, freebsd, mandriva, fedora core4 so far and all i have had problems getting into the GUI with.(have an inspiron 6000 and theres no official driver yet for graphics)..Ubuntu works great...do you think if i upgrade i will have the same problems?
[05:28] <BiSK-8> hello again
[05:29] <BiSK-8> why dosent the make command work in my terminal???
[05:29] <vengeful> using sudo ?
[05:29] <NightLord> Eeerrrrrrmmmmmmm,,,    I   ggottttt a      mmmmmmmmmaaaaaaajjjjoooooor   prooooooblllllem     wwwwwwwwitttttthhhh    mmmyyyy kyebbbbooooaaaarrrrrd
[05:30] <BiSK-8> vengeful: u talkin' 2 me?
[05:30] <vengeful> yes
[05:30] <Anak1n> I have problem xmms only start if I type in root console xmms :S
[05:30] <darkheart> BiSK-8 You need to be a bit more explicit in your problem.
[05:30] <Shin_Gouki> ompaul, i go now to reboot but i ll return
[05:31] <NightLord> pllllleaseeee      hhheeeeelllllllp
[05:31] <Chousuke> NightLord: Sorry: :D
[05:31] <BiSK-8> darkheart: it just wont work, i try 2 use the make command and it says that the comand dosent exist
[05:31] <NightLord> dddo       you    kkkkknnnow       hooooowwww lllooonng    iiittttt     tooooookkkk   toooooo  ttttyyyyppppeeeee    mmmmmyyyyy      ppppasswwwwoooorddd     innn     oooonnnn      xxxccccchhhhaaaattttt?
[05:32] <pl_ice> hm, crash test :)
[05:32] <NightLord> thhhhiiiiissssss       onlyyy  hhhhappppppppeeennnnsssssss   wwwwwheeeen i lllllooooogggg  innnn  nnnnnnnnottt  aaaaatttt thhhheeeeee    llloooooggggiiiiiiiinnnnn scccrrrreennnnn
[05:32] <BiSK-8> argh
[05:32] <Anak1n> NightLord
[05:32] <BiSK-8> wanna stop
[05:32] <WhiteRabbit> NightLord, thats retarded
[05:32] <BiSK-8> i cant understand anything
[05:32] <darkheart> BiSK-8 Okay, that helps more.
[05:32] <concept10> that is hilarious
[05:32] <darkheart> BiSK-8 That means either make isn't installed on your system, or it's not in your path.
[05:32] <WhiteRabbit> NightLord, even a child could come up with a better way to annoy without being noticed than that
[05:32] <trans_err> whats the applet on the live cd that does wireless strength monitoring?
[05:33] <darkheart> BiSK-8 What are you trying to make?
[05:33] <NightLord> gooodddddddddaaaaamnnniiiit,,,    ttttthhhhhiiiss       iiisn'''t  rrriigggggeeeeeddddd
[05:33] <BooZee> snorks: you here?
[05:33] <NightLord> tttthhiiiiis issssss aaa    sssseeeriiiiiioooouuuus prrrrrroobleeemmmmm         aaaannndddd     nooooooooooonnneee tttttttaaaakkeeesss     iiittt     serrrriiiiiouuussssslyyy!!!
[05:33] <Anak1n> trans_err: network monitor
[05:33] <BiSK-8> darkheart: a mouce theme
[05:33] <darkheart> BiSK-8 Okay, I don't know what that is, but have you installed the build-essential package?
[05:33] <BiSK-8> nope
[05:34] <Chousuke> NightLord: Check your keyboard settings.
[05:34] <Answer> Question: Does anybody use scrot or other screenshot programs?  Can you capture display 0 ?
[05:34] <nalioth> ubotu: tell NightLord about conduct
[05:34] <BiSK-8> is there any list of the most important apt-get packages that i should install?
[05:34] <Chousuke> NightLord: and accessibility settings.
[05:34] <Chousuke> nalioth: Now what if his problem was real? :P
[05:34] <Anak1n> do anyone use skype on ubuntu?
[05:35] <BiSK-8> darkheart, may i query?
[05:35] <ompaul> Anak1n, some do indeed
[05:35] <NightLord> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-25574.html
[05:35] <NightLord> sseeee
[05:36] <nalioth> Chousuke: do you know how much it takes to type in that fashion?
[05:36] <darkheart> BiSK-8 Well, that's kind of a subjective question. But if you are building stuff, then you want build-essential =) You know how to apt-get stuff, right?
[05:36] <bzimage> Answer, import?
[05:36] <bzimage> (cli)
[05:36] <Chousuke> nalioth: no?
[05:36] <bzimage> import -window username -display servername:0 myfile01.extension
[05:36] <SMEXE> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=70488 - can anyone help????   I know I've been a pain, but.... :S
[05:37] <hubsi> hm..
[05:37] <hubsi> can't someone help me with that packages? :/
[05:38] <nalioth> hubsi: i'm sorry i missed your question
[05:38] <hubsi> the same question like two hours before :)
[05:38] <ompaul> NightLord, there is an answer at the bottom of that page - setting >>psmouse<< replaced with >> psmouse rate=40 << /etc/modules
[05:39] <SteveKerr> was wondering if someone could help me...i'm trying to get the clam antivirus package, but i keep getting this error msg: "W: Failed to fetch http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/universe/binary-i386/libclamav1_0.85.1-2~5.04ubp1_i386.deb
[05:39] <SteveKerr>   404 Not Found" i know my sources.list file is typed right
[05:39] <hubsi> you dont have to apologize :)
[05:39] <nalioth> SteveKerr: backports are evil. search "planet.ubuntulinux.org" for "backports"
[05:39] <hubsi> i just want that i can download the packages again :/
[05:40] <SteveKerr> thanks nalioth
[05:40] <hubsi> over apt-get
[05:40] <ompaul> SteveKerr, double what nalioth said about backports
[05:40] <SteveKerr> k
[05:40] <NightLord> ttttthaannkkks oooompppppaulllllll
[05:40] <NightLord> i'''''llll    ttttttrrrrrry      iiittt
[05:41] <ompaul> NightLord, don't type - just act :) see what happens
[05:41] <nalioth> NightLord: stop that nonsense
[05:41] <BooZee> what is nautilus ?
[05:41] <BooZee> !nautilus
[05:41] <ubotu> BooZee: Do they come in packets of five?
[05:41] <nalioth> BooZee: a gnome file mangler
[05:42] <BooZee> mangler?
[05:42] <ompaul> NightLord, use the text here or on the page to cut and paste once you get the file open - suggest paste this into a terminal >>sudo nano /etc/modules<<
[05:42] <pl_ice> SMEXE , hey, did u change ur gateway to urs?
[05:43] <nalioth> BooZee: sorry, freudian slip. file manager
[05:43] <Anak1n> e pricha li neko srpski ovde?
[05:43] <hubsi> doesnt someone know a list of packagesites where i can download the stuff
[05:43] <SMEXE> pl_ice: It still wouldn't work.. and Networking from admin tools won't work for me anymore.. :/
[05:43] <Chousuke> nalioth: Why do you refuse to believe it's not his fault?
[05:43] <Myxomatosis> Alright, now I need some help.
[05:43] <nalioth> ubotu: tell hubsi about sources
[05:43] <Myxomatosis> I'm trying to network my Windows PC to me Ubuntu one.
[05:43] <pl_ice> SMEXE , but did u change gateway to ur ip? couse i used mine one the forum
[05:43] <Chousuke> If he was a troll, he wouldn't be silent right now.
[05:43] <Myxomatosis> I'm vaguely aware I need to edit the Samba file, just not sure how exactly.
[05:43] <nalioth> Chousuke: are you gonna tell me his keyboard is doing it so nice and neatly?
[05:43] <ompaul> Chousuke, may I message you?
[05:43] <hubsi> thanks
[05:44] <SMEXE> pl_ice: yeah, i did.. mine's 192.168.0.1
[05:44] <NightLord> nnnnaaallllliiioooooooothhhhhhh:::     tttttthiiiiiiisss        isssss   nnootttttt  nnnnooooonseeeeenssssseee,,      pleaaaaaaassse beeeellllllieeevvvvee mmmmeeee      heerrrrreee
[05:44] <Chousuke> nalioth: it's just repeating characters?
[05:44] <Chousuke> ompaul: for what reason?
[05:44] <pl_ice> SMEXE , can u change the router for static? and then try everyting? ...
[05:45] <Answer> bzimage: I don't see import anywhere
[05:45] <BooZee> damn... i'm a f***ing newbie!
[05:45] <ompaul> to explain why although I don't believe I did was I did :)
[05:45] <ompaul> s/was/what
[05:45] <BooZee> what did you say there about nautilus?
[05:45] <nalioth> Chousuke: it's a common "cutesy" script addition in some folk(s) books
[05:45] <BooZee> file manager?
[05:45] <SMEXE> pl_ice: that I can't do.. The whole network's DHCP, and my dad's laptop is running some important stuff.. I can't really change the whole system..
[05:46] <Answer> Question: Does anybody use scrot or other screenshot programs?  Can you capture display 0 ?
[05:46] <Chousuke> ompaul: ok.
[05:46] <netz> where did the bootloader manager in breezy go?
[05:46] <nalioth> BooZee: a file manager is what "Windows Explorer" is
[05:46] <BooZee> o.k. got that.
[05:46] <Myxomatosis> nalioth: Can you help me network my two computer together?
[05:47] <nalioth> Myxomatosis: maybe
[05:47] <Myxomatosis> Uh, okay?
[05:47] <netstar> How many more days until the release of breezy?
[05:47] <seth_k> 2 weeks ish
[05:47] <pl_ice> SMEXE , throw the network line out, then try again
[05:48] <SMEXE> pl_ice: hmm?  How do you mean?
[05:48] <nalioth> Myxomatosis: what do ya have?
[05:48] <pl_ice> sorry i mean netmask
[05:49] <SMEXE> pl_ice: again, how do I do that..? :/
[05:49] <Anak1n> why skype stop responding when I try to call someone?
[05:49] <BooZee> how do I change my system lang?
[05:49] <BooZee> I want it to be only enabled and not localized
[05:50] <nalioth> Myxomatosis: how do you want to network your boxen? i know nothing about samba
[05:50] <pl_ice> any one tried thief 3 on ubuntu? i got bloody no graphics etc. ...
[05:52] <ydolem> is there a howto for installing ati drivers
[05:52] <pl_ice> ydolem do a search on ubuntuforums.org
[05:53] <ydolem> I didn't find anything that work,
[05:53] <NightLord> IT WORKED!
[05:53] <Anak1n> skype help someone please?
[05:53] <NightLord> Thanks alot for helping ^_^
[05:54] <nalioth> NightLord: sorry. but you are emulating a script kiddy VERY well
[05:54] <nalioth> or were
[05:54] <NightLord> how many more times do i have to tell you
[05:54] <NightLord> that was not an act
[05:54] <Toma-> Anak1n: just ask
[05:54] <NightLord> I am not the only person to suffered from it
[05:54] <_jason> Anak1n:  have you followed: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//SkypeHowto/
[05:55] <Anak1n> skype is conecting and conecting and stop responding why?
[05:55] <NightLord> and the ridicule didn't help much you know
[05:55] <Toma-> Anak1n: u running iptables or some sort of other firewall?
[05:55] <Anak1n> I folow http://ubuntuguide.org/#skype
[05:55] <BooZee> nalioth: how do I change my system lang? it is now localized, and I want it enabled
[05:55] <Anak1n> Toma-: what can I do to make skype work?
[05:56] <Toma-> well for starters u can answer my question
[05:56] <Kaparen> it my second day using Ubuntu Hoary and I wonder if, when released, I can upgrade Hoary to Breezer without actually taking away the whole OS and reinstall?
[05:56] <NightLord> at least someone helped, and i really appreciated it
[05:56] <Anak1n> Toma-: where to view if any firewall is runing? :s
[05:57] <darkheart> Kaparen I believe you can do a dist-upgrade to move to Breezy, but I would recommend a fresh install.
[05:57] <Kaparen> darkheart: Ok thanks! May I ask why?
[05:58] <Toma-> Anak1n: lsmod | grep iptables
[05:58] <pussfeller> i thot the main thing about skpye was, it transferses firewalls without configuration
[05:58] <snorks> Does anyone know where to tweak direct rendering performance? I got an ATI card
[05:58] <ompaul> Kaparen, you can
[05:58] <ccooke> snorks: tweak in what way?
[05:58] <snorks> ccooke: performance
[05:58] <darkheart> Kaparen Well, just to keep things clean and working =) upgrading to an essentially different system can cause problems sometimes.
[05:58] <Toma-> snorks: buy a faster one ;)
[05:58] <ccooke> snorks: what driver version do you have?
[05:59] <Anak1n> i give up
[05:59] <Anak1n> i'll install suse
[05:59] <Toma-> fine.
[05:59] <snorks> OpenGL renderer string: RADEON 9800 Pro Generic
[05:59] <snorks> OpenGL version string: 1.3.4769 (X4.3.0-8.8.25)
[05:59] <ompaul> Kaparen, I suggest you do two things before you try to do that, one download burn and md5sum a breezy install CD, second backup your homedirectory, then go for the command line upgrade
[05:59] <Anak1n> suse does not have problem with skype
[05:59] <NightLord> why analkin
[05:59] <ccooke> snorks: dmesg | grep fglrx
[05:59] <NightLord> whats your problem?
[05:59] <Anak1n> i need skype
[06:00] <ompaul> Anak1n, breezy or hoary?
[06:00] <Anak1n> but skype won't work with gnome
[06:00] <NightLord> whats your problem with it?
[06:00] <ccooke> snorks: there'll be a line like "module loaded"
[06:00] <snorks> ccooke: nothing comes up
[06:00] <ccooke> snorks: which includes a version
[06:00] <Anak1n> conecting and stand still
[06:00] <ompaul> Anak1n, it does, please answer, breezy or hoary?
[06:00] <NightLord> so it hangs when connecting
[06:00] <alisher> Analkin: I have Skyp+Gnome
[06:00] <Anak1n> nothing responding i must do force quit
[06:00] <ccooke> snorks: ... what happens when you type fglrxinfo?
[06:00] <Anak1n> alisher: how
[06:00] <Anak1n> breezy hoaray?
[06:00] <Anak1n> :S
[06:01] <alisher> I don't know, just installed and enjoy
[06:01] <ccooke> snorks: hmm, you did.
[06:01] <Anak1n> alisher: I install it and have trouble
[06:01] <alisher> for skype you need to install qt libraries, right?
[06:01] <snorks> ccooke: it prints opengl vendor string, yea i did
[06:01] <Anak1n> alisher: i install it
[06:01] <ccooke> snorks: okay, you must have mistyped the command I sent you
[06:01] <ccooke> snorks: dmesg | grep fglrx
[06:01] <snorks> ccooke: for all it's worth, im reinstalling ubuntu, to x86 (running amd64 now, dont like it)
[06:01] <alisher> and, if you start skype from terminal, what you get?
[06:02] <snorks> stig@localhost:~$ dmesg | grep fglrx
[06:02] <snorks> stig@localhost:~$
[06:02] <Anak1n> alisher : brb
[06:02] <alisher> and which do you use, breezy or hoary?
[06:02] <alisher> and where did you get your skype?
[06:02] <Kaparen> so if I were to reinstall a fresh copy of Breezer I would burn the ISO. Boot up with the CD and then Breezer install will format the partition right? I dont have to pre-format so to say?
[06:02] <alisher> which version of skype?
[06:02] <ccooke> snorks: grep "fglrx.*loaded" /var/log/kern.log
[06:03] <Anak1n> alisher: i get skype from http://frankandjacq.com/ubuntuguide/skype_1.2.0.11-1_i386.deb
[06:03] <alisher> do you use breezy or hoary?
[06:03] <Anak1n> alisher: what is breezy and hoary? :s
[06:03] <snorks> Sep 29 18:22:33 localhost kernel: [fglrx]  module loaded - fglrx 8.8.25 [Jan 14 2005]  on minor 0
[06:03] <ompaul> alisher, I did try that qestion before, I suggest you try uname -r  and play the very popular match the kernel version to breezy or hoary game :)
[06:03] <alisher> 5.10 or 5.04
[06:03] <ccooke> snorks: Right, good.
[06:03] <ccooke> snorks: you're running warty or hoary?
[06:03] <snorks> ccooke: hoary
[06:04] <ccooke> snorks: right. if you upgrade to breezy, you'll get 8.16.20, which is a massive improvement
[06:04] <snorks> ccooke: ok
[06:04] <ccooke> snorks: ... including up to 20% better frame rate.
[06:04] <snorks> ccooke: will do that once i install x86 version then
[06:04] <Anak1n> :(
[06:04] <snorks> ccooke: tho i have not done a breezy upgrade before
[06:04] <ccooke> snorks: you can also download it from ATI - it'll build its own debs, but they're not trivial to get working.
[06:04] <ccooke> snorks: if you're doing a fresh install, just install breezy. But only if you want to :-)
[06:04] <snorks> ccooke: ive done the ubuntuguide.org way to get direct rendering before
[06:05] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth , u want to know now what the Problem waS? it was the CD Writer!
[06:05] <snorks> ccooke: breezy is stable now?
[06:05] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: time for a new dvd dual layer burner, is it?
[06:05] <BooZee> what iss amba??
[06:05] <BooZee> oops. i ment, what is samba?
[06:05] <ccooke> snorks: breezy is still pre release. It is stable in my experience (I'm running it on my work laptop)
[06:05] <BiSK-8> samba is a file server i think
[06:05] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth , the CD which was created could not be booted by same cd writer.. i switched the cd roms & it worked *_*
[06:05] <alisher> so, Analkin, you don't know which version of Ubuntu you are using? sad, I think nothing to help w skype here
[06:05] <ccooke> snorks: but if you can wait a week or two, it'll be released.
[06:05] <BooZee> which means .. ?
[06:05] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: well i'm glad you're on your way
[06:05] <snorks> ccooke: nah ill get breezy now
[06:06] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth , a very nice person here named : kemik told me yesterday about it.. but only in last few hours it seems i came to reason..
[06:06] <jjazz> BooZee:  Samba is a SMB server.  Google it.
[06:06] <snorks> ccooke: i remember when i got direct rendering to work when i used gentoo, it was a bitch. is there an easy procedure in breezy?
[06:06] <BiSK-8> how do i set xmmms 2 my default media player?
[06:06] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth , that does not sound nice:p more likly ur happy that "antother" spambot dissappears..
[06:06] <Anak1n> alisher: I use ubuntu 5.04 kernel 2.6
[06:07] <grindhouse> nalioth is gay
[06:07] <ccooke> snorks: for ATI, you just need to install the restricted modules, load them and change the 'radeon' in xorg.conf to 'fglrx'.
[06:07] <ccooke> snorks: that's it.
[06:07] <Shin_Gouki> he a nice peerson :P
[06:07] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: i want you in HERE where folks can answer your questions and you can answer theirs
[06:07] <Shin_Gouki> i know its ok ^^
[06:07] <Shin_Gouki> so ok question:
[06:07] <grindhouse> naloth is gay
[06:07] <grindhouse> nalioth is gay
[06:07] <ccooke> snorks: you need to add 'Option "VideoOverlay" "on"' to the Device section to get xv, though.
[06:07] <ccooke> snorks: okay?
[06:07] <grindhouse> nalioth is gay
[06:07] <grindhouse> nalioth is gay
[06:08] <grindhouse> dont chat with him
[06:08] <Toma-> grindhouse: u have the wit of a slug..
[06:08] <alisher> Analkin:    Hoary
[06:08] <snorks> ccooke: hm. ill have a look on that :) still a few hours left on my backuping
[06:08] <Shin_Gouki> if u chosse server install , and DO NOT install GNOME, which config tool i use to find new HW on the system if i plug into?
[06:08] <snorks> ccooke: thanks though ;) perhaps I'll look for you when i come to that point
[06:08] <catfox> ccooke, you helping another ati'er? :)
[06:08] <nalioth> bob2: dang i was gonna get him to be creative
[06:08] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: even if you install and use gnome, there's no "config tool to find new HW"
[06:08] <nalioth> bob2: in -offtopic
[06:08] <bob2> nalioth: heh, sorry
[06:08] <ccooke> catfox: well, why not? :-)
[06:08] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: hotplug will load modules for most everything automatically
[06:08] <BooZee>  ?
[06:09] <ccooke> catfox: my last two work laptops have been vaios, so it's the card I'm most familiar with :-)
[06:09] <catfox> indeed
[06:09] <catfox> ah, i had a vaio once
[06:09] <Shin_Gouki> bob2, what gui does hotplug require? how do i use it?
[06:09] <Kaparen> do I have to pre-format the partition or can I do it in the breezy install? just like I did in the hoary inst.
[06:09] <SanderD> Hi. Would installing Breezy from start have advantages over upgrading from Hoary/Breezy preview?
[06:09] <nalioth> Kaparen: if you have hoary, you'll upgrade easily
[06:09] <Answer> Toma-: slugs have survived many years,  grindhouse not so many.  don't insult slugs like that
[06:09] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: there's no gui
[06:09] <bob2> BooZee: ASCII, please
[06:09] <ccooke> catfox: they're not bad.
[06:09] <nalioth> SanderD: none
[06:09] <Toma-> hehehe :D
[06:09] <BooZee> sorry there...
[06:09] <mon> any howto to find out what makes your computer crash? (like 5 times in a row when i'm not even using it)
[06:09] <catfox> ccooke, i think mine had an intel chipset. we use dell's at my office tho. tbh i've no idea what the video card is
[06:09] <bob2> Kaparen: the installer is just like hoary's, you can partition as you go
[06:10] <bob2> SanderD: as long as you read the upgrade noties, no
[06:10] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: it loads modules automatically
[06:10] <BooZee> does anybody knows how can I change my systems lang ? It is localized, and I want to make it enabled instead..
[06:10] <PeerSoft> hey everyone.
[06:10] <Shin_Gouki> bob2, no gui, ... i see the fun with linux starts & end with the prompt.. ;)
[06:10] <SanderD> nalioth & bob2: Okay, then I'll just upgrade. Thanks.
[06:10] <ompaul> Kaparen, I thought we had been over that ground, a couple of minutes ago, you can upgrade on the fly, and you can back up your home directory and make a CD in case of problems
[06:10] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: there's nothing to do
[06:10] <nalioth> SanderD: ubuntu's package management is made for easy upgrades (and never having to install again)
[06:11] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: the module gets loaded, software can start using the hardware
[06:11] <ubuntu> hi all
[06:11] <snorks> ccooke: ubuntu-5.10-preview-install-i386.iso is correct?
[06:11] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: what would you want the gui to do?
[06:11] <ccooke> snorks: http://tinyurl.com/85dry
[06:11] <ccooke> snorks: colony 5 is the latest update to the preview
[06:11] <Shin_Gouki> ok ill try u hear from me if i have problems: i want to tank : nalioth, ompaul & kemik, bob 2 if ur in awhile still on i tell ya , hopefully next time from ubuntu & not from win9x like ATM ^^
[06:12] <ubuntu> Need help! X is broken on my hoary... should i make klean install? can i fix it from breezy live cd?
[06:12] <snorks> ccooke: thanks man
[06:12] <logrus> hi all
[06:12] <catfox> i've convinced one company director that we should be using ubuntu on our servers. need to get one more to come around now :)
[06:12] <snorks> ccooke: dling
[06:13] <bob2> catfox: hah, cool
[06:13] <catfox> anyone else using ubuntu in a production env?
[06:13] <ccooke> catfox: lucky!
[06:13] <bob2> tho, if you're the admin, careful yo udon't talk yourself out of your job ;p
[06:13] <Kaparen> ompaul, I was worrying about the partition 'format' but I understand now, sorry..I am a total newbie at this. Thank you people for answering my questions.
[06:13] <catfox> bob2, the one i've convinced is actually the technical director. so thats the hard one out of the way :)
[06:13] <wickedpuppy> catfox, i suppose ubuntulinux.com ?
[06:13] <ccooke> catfox: we can't do that without more supported apps and support.
[06:14] <ccooke> although I'd still probably prefer Debian on the server.
[06:14] <catfox> ccooke, yeah thats a prob. but we write all our apps on plone, and deploy them on linux boxes so it's not too much of a problem here
[06:14] <catfox> plone & zope
[06:15] <ccooke> catfox: I've heard more people cursing at zope than eulogising it...
[06:15] <catfox> ccooke, i'm one of them ;)
[06:15] <ccooke> catfox: is it as bad as people make it sound?
[06:15] <catfox> it's just so inconsistent
[06:15] <ccooke> Right.
[06:15] <ubuntu> how do i acess X config files on Hd from live cd?
[06:15] <catfox> it's powerfull, but a hard one to learn to 'do things right'
[06:15] <ompaul> Kaparen, okay, we all learn something every day, sometimes its a lot other times its a little :)
[06:16] <catfox> we're looking at django and ruby on rails this weekend.
[06:16] <mon> ubuntu: can you access your HD already?
[06:16] <p0windah> gali gai fan time
[06:16] <ubuntu> mon: no i dont think so....
[06:17] <mon> ubuntu: and i take it you're not familiar with mounting then
[06:17] <mon> what was it...
[06:17] <mon> ~tell ubuntu about mounting
[06:17] <mon> !tell ubuntu about mounting
[06:17] <mon> !tell ubuntu about mount
[06:17] <mon> ubuntu: read what ubotu says
[06:17] <p0windah> !tell ubuntu about spamming
[06:18] <ompaul> mon, why not do it with /msg ubotu blah :) then we only see the good one ;-)
[06:18] <mon> maybe ubotu should know "aliases"
[06:18] <jstrubberg> catfox, depending on how the rollout of LTSP on Breezy goes, we may be switching to a Ubuntu/thin client shop.
[06:18] <mon> ompaul: i'm not so familiar with ubotu yet :)
[06:18] <nalioth> mon: what do you want to know?
[06:18] <ubuntu> mon: i have written i down in a text file but i have it on my hd
[06:18] <christian-> what's the command to cp an entire folder somewhere else? sudo cp foldername/*.* /usr/destination ?
[06:18] <mon> nalioth: mount, got it already. thanks
[06:18] <ompaul> nalioth, he got it :)
[06:18] <ccooke> christian-: cp -a foldername /usr/destination
[06:19] <christian-> ccooke, thank you !
[06:19] <Secreth`X> Can you access your C:\ with the live CD?
[06:19] <ccooke> christian-: -av if you want it to tell you what it does
[06:19] <mon> nalioth: thanks :0
[06:19] <mon> :) i mean
[06:19] <catfox> jstrubberg, good stuff. ts stuff in linux is pretty good
[06:20] <rlynch> hey all
[06:20] <rlynch> i'm trying to compile rhythmbox from CVS and am running into an odd error
[06:20] <mon> ubuntu: do you use xchat atm?
[06:20] <whoiam> anybody know how do I can add a user to sudoers list ?
[06:20] <rlynch> the autogen.sh says this:
[06:20] <rlynch>  libtool.m4 not found
[06:20] <rlynch>   glib-gettext.m4 not found
[06:20] <rlynch>   intltool.m4 not found
[06:20] <rlynch>   pkg.m4 not found
[06:21] <jstrubberg> Yeah, the tough sell is convincing the users that the retraining isn't that big a deal...
[06:21] <rlynch>   gtk-doc.m4 not found
[06:21] <mon> whoiam: visudo
[06:21] <ubuntu> mon> yes!
[06:21] <ubuntu> mon: yes!
[06:21] <rlynch> and those .debs are installed
[06:21] <rlynch> anyone have a solution to this?
[06:21] <nalioth> rlynch: please dont paste in here anymore
[06:21] <Secreth`X> Can you access your HD with the live CD?
[06:21] <mon> ubuntu: you should see a tab named "ubotu" just like there's one called #ubuntu. read what ubotu says
[06:21] <nalioth> rlynch: open synaptic and find those packages. install their -dev brethren
[06:21] <mon> Secreth`X: sure
[06:22] <bob2> rlynch: sudo apt-get build-dep rhythmbox ; sudo apt-get install libtool automake
[06:22] <Secreth`X> how mon?
[06:22] <bob2> !+find libtool.m4
[06:22] <pejcao> greetings!
[06:22] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'libtool.m4' (5 shown): (/usr/share/libtool/libtool.m4) in devel/libtool ;; (/usr/lib/php4/build/libtool.m4) in devel/php4-dev ;; (/usr/share/aclocal/libtool.m4) in devel/libtool,universe/devel/libtool1.4 ;; (/usr/share/apps/kapptemplate/admin/libtool.m4.in) in universe/devel/kapptemplate ;; (/usr/share/doc/gettext-doc/examples/hello-c++-kde/admin/libtool.m4.in) in doc/gettext-doc.
[06:22] <ubuntu> mon: i did thanks.... i get : mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[06:23] <rlynch> im on breezy btw
[06:23] <nalioth> rlynch: follow bob2's instructions
[06:23] <mon> ubuntu: you sure you used the right device? (/dev/hd*?)
[06:24] <Secreth`X> mon: how?
[06:24] <funkyHat> is it possible to set php safe mode per-virtualserver?
[06:24] <mon> Secreth`X: sorry for the delay. read ubotu's note
[06:24] <Secreth`X> ok thx
[06:25] <ubuntu> mon: i have hda  hda1  hda2  hda5  hdc  hdd
[06:25] <mon> ubuntu: and ubuntu is hda2?
[06:25] <mon> ubuntu: or wait, 5 i'd guess?
[06:25] <ubuntu> mon: i wish i knew.... :)
[06:25] <mon> ubuntu: try cfdisk /dev/hda
[06:26] <ubuntu> mon: thx!
[06:26] <mon> ubuntu: it will tell you what the partitiontable looks like. don't change anything, just quit afterwards :)
[06:26] <shedi> funkyHat, are you asking about virtual hosting or virtual servers
[06:26] <funkyHat> virtual servers
[06:26] <funkyHat> not chrooted hosting
[06:27] <Secreth`X> :x
[06:27] <mon> nalioth: does ubotu know about "where (as in what partition) did i install ubuntu" already? seems to come up often
[06:27] <christian-> what
[06:27] <Secreth`X> !windowsdrives
[06:27] <ubotu> I heard windowsdrives is Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically
[06:27] <ubuntu> mon> hda1 is ext3 and hda5 is swap
[06:27] <ubuntu> mon: so i guess hda1 is my freind
[06:27] <mon> ubuntu: so you should use "mount /dev/hda1 /something"
[06:27] <christian-> 's the ubuntu equivalent of ctrl-alt-del ?
[06:28] <nalioth> mon: i dont think so (re ubotu)
[06:28] <mon> ubuntu: indeed it is :)
[06:28] <funkyHat> christian-, as in the task manager?
[06:28] <Rockett18> dont forget -t ext3
[06:28] <christian-> indeed
[06:28] <rlynch> bob2: i followed your instrucions, which led to severel .debs being installed, but i get the same error
[06:28] <funkyHat> applications > system tools > system monitor
[06:28] <mon> nalioth: i'm not a regular here, but it seems to get asked about every day? maybe for in the ToDo list :)
[06:28] <ubuntu> mon: and something could be any folder in home?
[06:28] <christian-> thanks
[06:28] <Dalik01> I am running 5.04 and I have an audigy1 card with alsa sound drivers and my sound crackes and pops, mostly when graphics are drawn like moving windows and scroll bars.  Anyone know how to fix this?
[06:28] <jstrubberg> hda, hdb, hdc, etc are physical disks, hda1, hda3, etc are partitions.  Your data partition on the first drive should be hda1. Then /home/whatever
[06:29] <mon> ubuntu: i'd recommend you make a temporary directory like "mkdir /ubuntu" and then mount it there
[06:29] <tarvid> i want to retrieve a file from the net with something like wget and put it in a spcific directory
[06:29] <tarvid> all I find is the -O option
[06:30] <mon> any howto to find out what makes your computer crash? (like 5 times in a row when i'm not even using it)
[06:30] <Anak1n> skype help again I use Hoaray
[06:30] <ubuntu> mon: thx!!!! now i just gotta figure out how to fix my gfx setup files.. i just made a normal upgrade yesterday... but my hd i playing funny lately
[06:30] <Buddha|> What version of GCC does Ubuntu use?
[06:30] <tarvid> this shouldn't be hard
[06:30] <Buddha|> Ubuntu 5.10, sorry
[06:30] <mon> ubuntu: try whatever you want, but making a backup is something you won't regret :)
[06:30] <shedi> Buddha|, dpkg -l | grep gcc
[06:31] <mon> ubuntu: with xorg-config you can reconfigure xorg
[06:31] <Hoxzer> mon: can you master the nonverbal cheating?
[06:31] <mon> Hoxzer: ehr, que?
[06:31] <ubuntu> mon: is that automatic? can i run it from breezy?
[06:31] <nalioth> Buddha|: 4.0
[06:31] <pejcao> I need help to install lilo in such a way that it only boots winxp, since I'm moving my linux hdd to it's own machine
[06:32] <mon> ubuntu: you need to chroot, read ubotu's notes :)
[06:32] <mon> ubuntu: it's not automatic you need to answer some questions, but its easy
[06:32] <pejcao> problem is that if I take out the linux hdd lilo doesnt works
[06:32] <Hoxzer> mon: can you cheat your emotions by your expressions
[06:33] <Secreth`X> mon: erm I dont know what i've got to do with both ubotu's suggestions :S
[06:33] <XHK> Why i dont have sounds in kde??
[06:33] <XHK> S:
[06:33] <mon> Hoxzer: eeehr... i think the answer is no, but really what are you talking about :)
[06:33] <Hoxzer> you know peapol believe more in nonverbmessagin than normal mouth to ear messaging
[06:33] <mon> Hoxzer: yeah i know that that is important
[06:33] <XHK> And in gnome sound gets muted every startup :S
[06:33] <XHK> Can someone help me plz
[06:33] <Hoxzer> If you cheat it you can even cheat others so they think you cheat them
[06:33] <Buddha|> I'm trying to compile a package from source, and I get: '/bin/sh: gcc: command not found'
[06:34] <nalioth> pejcao: use a win9x boot disk and clean your /mbr
[06:34] <XHK> Why i dont have sounds in KDE?
[06:34] <nalioth> Buddha|: install "build-essential"
[06:34] <Dalik01> I am running 5.04 and I have an audigy1 card with alsa sound drivers and my sound crackes and pops, mostly when graphics are drawn like moving windows and scroll bars.  Anyone know how to fix this?  Just turned off the volume and I am still getting the scratching sound.
[06:34] <mon> Hoxzer: what did i say to start this difficult philosophy?
[06:34] <pejcao> nalioth, win xp boots ok, can I doit from there?
[06:35] <mon> Secreth`X: basicly, you don't know how to mount?
[06:35] <Secreth`X> mon: correct, I just started with Ubuntu, I just have the live CD ;p sorry that I didn't mentioned that
[06:35] <ubuntu> mon: chroot my hda1 partition?
[06:35] <BiSK-8> how do i install gdm themes?
[06:36] <mon> ubuntu: mount it, then chroot the directory where you mounted it yeah
[06:36] <pejcao> BiSK-8, from gdm's onw gui
[06:36] <BiSK-8> oh
[06:36] <Hendric> I can't browse another PC on my network (all using ubuntu). I've shared the home directory using the Share Folder utility.. but i am being asked for a password when clicking on the group.. even if i didn't set any.
[06:36] <XHK> Can someone help me plz, i dont have any sounds in kde, and in gnome sound is muted on every startup =/
[06:36] <BiSK-8> pejcao, and wheres that?
[06:36] <Hendric> i shared it using samba options
[06:37] <JF> im having a problem with my unbuntu live cd: when i boot from it it give me some lines about usb driver and such installing, but then say sumtyhing like DR-ROM: _. I dont know hwo to use the console
[06:37] <ubuntu> mon:thanx man! and then i guess i can just run xorg-config
[06:37] <steve81> hello!
[06:37] <pejcao> BiSK-8, in gdm (maybe u can use gdm's Xnest shooser to try it in yer desktop)
[06:37] <mon> ubuntu: jup
[06:37] <BiSK-8> pejcao, yes but where's gdm?
[06:38] <steve81> Excuse me, I have a flybook that doesn't boot from usb cddrive. there is a way to boot ubuntu installer from a usb pen?
[06:38] <pejcao> BiSK-8, its config
[06:38] <XHK> Can someone help me plz, i dont have any sounds in kde, and in gnome sound is muted on every startup =/
[06:39] <nalioth> ubotu: tell XHK about sound
[06:39] <stoeptegel> someone knows anything about installing kernel linux-2.6.10-7 with kynaptic showing up as vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-k7 in the system?
[06:39] <mae> Hi, I have 'start search & indexing services automatically" enabled under preferences.. but beagled and best do not start on their own i have to do it manually, I am on fully updated breezy
[06:39] <XHK> nalioth: is there written about kde too?
[06:39] <nalioth> XHK: i'm not sure. perhaps you should ask in #kubuntu
[06:39] <BiSK-8> pejcao: wat does that mean???? where can i find it? where do i heve 2 click?
[06:40] <mae> sigh.
[06:40] <mae> floodbots
[06:40] <nalioth> mae: you must attract them...  :)
[06:40] <JF> does anyone know how to burn the livecd using nero?
[06:41] <nalioth> JF: just like you burn any iso image
[06:41] <mae> when are the 13 year olds going to get sick of trying to 'roxor' irc channels
[06:41] <pejcao> BiSK-8, sry, /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf : ConfigAvailable=false
[06:41] <pejcao>  <-- true
[06:41] <JF> i can do it with reg nero but not with nero xpress, i tried bootable data disc but the disc never booted
[06:42] <XHK> nalioth: I had sound prioblem in gnome too and that page u gave me helped to solve the problem, but still it unmutes sounds on startup :S
[06:42] <mon> JF: you downloaded an iso right? you can just open the iso and nero and burn it
[06:42] <JF> ok lemme try that
[06:42] <steve81> Excuse me, I have a flybook that doesn't boot from usb cddrive. there is a way to boot ubuntu installer from a usb pen?
[06:43] <nalioth> JF: you shouldnt have to select anything. the iso is a bootable image (no matter how you burn it)
[06:45] <pejcao> nalioth, oka, got winxp bootable cd, are there spetial instrucctions on rewriting mbr?
[06:45] <mirak> hi
[06:45] <mirak> is there a significant performance difference between SATA and IDE hard drive s?
[06:46] <mon> mirak: none as far as i expierence
[06:46] <Rockett18> unless you get SATA2
[06:46] <JF> alright just so i know if the disc im about to attempt to boor from is good, what should be one of the first things to happen once the live cd starts to boot?
[06:47] <mon> JF: you should see a brown scren with the ubuntu logo
[06:47] <JF> k
[06:47] <nalioth> mirak: you'll see a bigger difference if you move large contiguous files
[06:48] <mirak> how large ?
[06:48] <JF> k hopefully i wont brb cuz if i am then it means it didnt work :)
[06:48] <mirak> nalioth: I see, the problem is still the mecanic
[06:48] <pejcao> nalioth, oka, fdisk /mbr THX!
[06:49] <nalioth> Penguin: have fun
[06:49] <nalioth> mirak: i find my xfer speed increases the larger the file is
[06:50] <boxman> how do you get the treble/bass sliders working in ubuntu?? using a sblive card..
[06:50] <boxman> the sliders seems to do absolutely nothing at all :\
[06:50] <boxman> i used to have it working in debian.
[06:52] <Tomcat_> boxman: Probably the wrong slider... check in the prefs if there are other sliders for treble/bass.
[06:52] <boxman> there is no other sliders.. already checked
[06:52] <boxman> i think i had to install something extra on debian, but i dont recall what..
[06:54] <Secreth`X> ok..
[06:54] <Secreth`X> I can't mount my windows drives
[06:54] <Secreth`X> suggestions?
[06:54] <Belutz> !tell Secreth`X  about windowsdrives
[06:55] <Secreth`X> already tried that
[06:55] <Secreth`X> didn't work either
[06:55] <Belutz> Secreth`X, sudo mount -a ?
[06:56] <Secreth`X> I'm afraid you have to be more clearly, I'm a big newbie :)
[06:56] <Belutz> Secreth`X, you already run that winmac_fstab script ?
[06:56] <nalioth> Secreth`X: you say you are a newbie. what did you do with the info from the "windowsdrives" msg?
[06:56] <mon> Belutz: fdisk can't read his partition table
[06:57] <Belutz> mon, i see
[06:57] <Secreth`X> hehe
[06:57] <mon> Secreth`X: hmm now i think of it. did you use the dreadful partition magic perhaps?
[06:57] <Belutz> well, nalioth got him covered
[06:57] <Secreth`X> nalioth, not much because I don't know what to do with it,,
[06:57] <mon> hehe
[06:57] <hmrocha> hello
[06:57] <hmrocha> can i use an hp pocket pc in ubuntu?
[06:58] <nalioth> Secreth`X: open it with your favorite text editor and read it
[06:58] <mon> hmrocha: one way to find out: try it. (ok 2 ways, try google)
[06:58] <boxman> no one? :\
[06:59] <Secreth`X> Maybe I need to mention, this is the live CD
[06:59] <RockyBurt> how do i install additional (per-user) truetype fonts  with gnome?
[06:59] <Secreth`X> but ok nalioth i'v done it
[06:59] <Secreth`X> and then?
[06:59] <nalioth> Secreth`X: have you executed the script?
[07:00] <Secreth`X> ehm no
[07:00] <Belutz> :)
[07:00] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Secreth`X about cli
[07:01] <Secreth`X> hehe
[07:01] <benkong2> I have a problem trying to build the 32bit chroot environment the command "sudo chroot /chroot/" gives an error "chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory"  I am using the wiki docs. What's wrong?
[07:02] <Thunderguy> Ok, Ubuntu uses the Sudo system... but let's say one gets a virus using the sudoer account that is aware of sudo commands?
[07:02] <nalioth> benkong2: amd64 is whats wrong (chroot is seeming to be a big headache for lots of amd64 users)
[07:02] <nalioth> Thunderguy: virus?
[07:03] <benkong2> nalioth; aw shucks just trying to get a flash environment in firefox
[07:03] <Thunderguy> maybe not the same as in windows, but a script on some unix site, and somebody executes it?
[07:03] <Thunderguy> I don't know :)
[07:03] <mon> Thunderguy: someone shouldn't execute random scripts from the web
[07:03] <MrFaber> hi all
[07:03] <mon> Thunderguy: but yeah, scary things could happen then
[07:03] <Thunderguy> That's true, but how do people get viruses on windows?
[07:03] <jstrubberg> Ain't no virus worries here, but user silliness is alive and well.....
[07:03] <nalioth> benkong2: yes. i've assumed the opinion that the 686 kernel is almost humanly indifferent, but allows all the toys on amd64 hardware
[07:03] <Thunderguy> if they are not executing random scripts.
[07:04] <MrFaber> Does anyone have experiences with loop-aes?
[07:04] <Secreth`X> ehm ok nalioth i executed it
[07:04] <mon> Thunderguy: step 1: connect windows pc to the Net, step 2: wait for virusses
[07:04] <jstrubberg> Thunder, you can infect windows just by visiting a site..
[07:04] <nalioth> Secreth`X: so look in /media for your drives
[07:04] <benkong2> yeah but I'd have to rebuild my box for that correct?
[07:04] <Thunderguy> ah, firefox doesn't auto-open stuff?
[07:04] <nalioth> benkong2: back up your homedir (unless its on its own partition)
[07:05] <Thunderguy> I never used Internet Explorer <- I'm an IE noob
[07:05] <MrFaber> Thunderguy: LOL
[07:05] <jstrubberg> Wouldn't matter if it did, actually.  Linux doesn't allow processes to be started by users with elevated permissions like windows does.  Much better security.
[07:05] <mon> nalioth: as far as i figured out. his windows partition is on /dev/hdc but fdisk can't read that disk
[07:05] <Thunderguy> Well Ok, I used IE on someone elses computer for about 2 minutes I said Omg! I can't open a tab!
[07:06] <boxman> Thunderguy, you actually dont even need to browse for your system to be infected.. If your pc is hooked up to the internet without a firewall, then you will already be infected during the windows installation process.
[07:06] <Secreth`X> hehe
[07:06] <Secreth`X> thanks
[07:06] <boxman> as soon as lan is up, you are infected..
[07:06] <nalioth> mon: we'll see
[07:06] <Secreth`X> I got it working
[07:06] <nalioth> Secreth`X: are they in /media?
[07:06] <Thunderguy> auctually, I disconnect my computer during any installation process.
[07:06] <Secreth`X> yes
[07:06] <Thunderguy> well on the OS level.
[07:06] <boxman> i do so too now.. :)
[07:06] <Thunderguy> That ClamAv isn't that just for email servers?
[07:07] <darkheart> Thunderguy clamav is for scanning files for viruses.
[07:07] <kevogod> I have upgraded to Breezy and when it mounts CD-ROMs, it does simply titles the CD-ROM as "CD-ROM Disc" when it has a title.
[07:07] <Thunderguy> I know something I recommend to windows users... AVG.., I notice they have a linux version, think it would be worth a try with Ubuntu?
[07:07] <nalioth> Thunderguy: clamav exists for *nix users who want to clean b4 sending on to their windows using grandmothers
[07:07] <Thunderguy> exactly.
[07:07] <Thunderguy> Thats all I would wish to do.
[07:07] <BiSK-8> p/query pejcao
[07:08] <jstrubberg> AVG works very well.  I use it on all my remaining windows boxes
[07:08] <mon> Thunderguy: why start about sudo viruses then :)
[07:08] <BiSK-8> oops
[07:08] <BiSK-8> sry
[07:08] <BiSK-8> :D
[07:08] <nalioth> Thunderguy: clamav is also usable via many other process, as you've mentioned scanning email on a server being one use
[07:08] <Thunderguy> Do you think it would work well on Ubuntu? Avg?
[07:08] <BiSK-8> how do i install gdm themes ?
[07:08] <nalioth> Thunderguy: there is no need for it
[07:08] <mon> for windows files i assume
[07:09] <Thunderguy> Well see, this is what I'm thinking, ClamAv was never meant to auctually protect a windows computer, so I can't expect it to update quite as fast correct?
[07:09] <nalioth> Thunderguy: it updates hourly
[07:09] <darkheart> Thunderguy Um...not really.
[07:09] <BiSK-8> can any1 tell me how do i install gdm themes ?
[07:09] <jstrubberg> I guess you could use it to insure you weren't passing on an infected file, but your exposure to viruses on a *nix platform is nil
[07:09] <Thunderguy> My workstation is the only one within an entire windows enviroment.
[07:09] <nalioth> BiSK-8: /msg ubotu repeat
[07:09] <darkheart> Thunderguy You don't need to be worrying about Windows viruses on a Linux box anyway.
[07:10] <Thunderguy> I need to be worrying about possibly affecting a windows box.
[07:10] <jstrubberg> I would think you would be better off putting the AVG on the windows box, then
[07:10] <Thunderguy> That's true.
[07:10] <jstrubberg> Linux doesn't need it, so why spend the overhead?
[07:10] <kevogod> I am unable to play Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne as the disc is labeled as "CD-ROM Disc" in Breezy. This was not the case in Hoary.
[07:10] <Thunderguy> well I would put it on linux, but not run it day to day..
[07:11] <darkheart> Thunderguy I would assume that the windows boxes have more to worry about than you infecting them. But I use clamav for all my mail and it works fine.
[07:11] <Thunderguy> just for instance run it when I want to check files going out.
[07:11] <Thunderguy> Well I'm not worried about mail, most of my data goes out on CD's
[07:11] <nalioth> Thunderguy: what you NEED to do is put your linux box on the inbound leg of the network, run squid + clamd on it, and let your windows neighbors have a little bit better chance to not catch viruses
[07:11] <BiSK-8> naolith: im sorry
[07:11] <Thunderguy> heh
[07:11] <BiSK-8> im just getting tired
[07:11] <BiSK-8> ;)
[07:12] <nalioth> BiSK-8: sleep. we'll be here
[07:12] <Thunderguy> but ClamAV scans everything right?
[07:12] <Thunderguy> if configured properly?
[07:12] <Thunderguy> not just email?
[07:12] <BiSK-8> naolith: can u help me?
[07:12] <mon> kevogod: that title thing could be a bug, but shouldn't have anything to do with playing the game
[07:12] <benkong2> nalioth; is there a way to back up my conf files all at one time example .bashrc openssh etc. ?
[07:12] <nalioth> Thunderguy: if it is configured properly clamd will scan everything up and down
[07:13] <kevogod> mon: Yes, the game looks for the title of the CD-ROM disc and if it does not find it, it will not allow you to play.
[07:13] <nalioth> benkong2: back up your homedir
[07:13] <kevogod> mon: It is most certainly related.
[07:13] <benkong2> nalioth; k
[07:13] <Thunderguy> ok.
[07:13] <ABRAXAS77> hello
[07:13] <nalioth> BiSK-8: sorry i know nothing about themes (i prefer my console)
[07:13] <ABRAXAS77> is there anybody from a country with english language?, I need if somebody is able to correct me a letter in english please,is short, im sorry for bother with something not relationed with linux.
[07:13] <BiSK-8> ok
[07:13] <nalioth> ABRAXAS77: join #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:14] <Thunderguy> What about rooter viruses?
[07:14] <mon> kevogod: hmm no expierence with that. i just used a no-cd crack for WCIII and it works great
[07:14] <jstrubberg> router viruses?
[07:15] <kevogod> It did work great until I upgraded to Breezy.
[07:15] <Thunderguy> Viruses such as this: http://www.viruslist.com/en/viruses/encyclopedia?virusid=47779
[07:15] <Thunderguy> I would need a rootkit right?
[07:15] <eddan> I want to remove the gnome games and evolution but synaptic wants to uninstall the ubuntu-desktop package. Can't I keep ubuntu-desktop if I want to remove those?
[07:15] <nalioth> Thunderguy: viruses dont bother us too much in the *nix world
[07:16] <Thunderguy> nah, there is a specific type of virus for linux that I know of, it's not very common.
[07:16] <kevogod> eddan, You can remove the ubuntu-desktop package and everything will be fine.
[07:16] <clinfix> how can I play mp3?
[07:16] <eddan> kevogod: Ok, thanks. May I ask what it does?
[07:16] <nalioth> ubotu: tell clinfix about mp3
[07:17] <eddan> ubotu: tell eddan about mp3
[07:17] <Anak1n> !mp3
[07:17] <ubotu> well, mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[07:17] <ubuntu> mon: thx for help.. ill try restaqrt now :)
[07:17] <darkheart> Thunderguy I would worry more about getting hit by a falling airplane than getting a virus on your not-completed-outdated linux box.
[07:17] <nerp> evolution rules.
[07:17] <mon> nalioth: here i have one for you :) i just told ubotu to tell him the same thing. if everyone uses /msg then a user could get spammed 10 times in a row?
[07:17] <kevogod> eddan, It is the default Ubuntu install.
[07:17] <Anak1n> !skype
[07:17] <ubotu> I guess skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/, or deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free
[07:17] <mon> ubuntu: np, good luck
[07:17] <darkheart> Thunderguy not-completely-outdated*
[07:17] <Thunderguy> darkheart: It's funny.. I worry about falling airplanes
[07:17] <nalioth> mon: ubotu has a time limit
[07:17] <ogi_> is it possible that xt bios on a radeon 9800 pro could create problems when I try to get 3D acceleration to work?
[07:17] <mon> nalioth: ah brilliant. forget i said something
[07:17] <darkheart> Thunderguy Hehe.
[07:18] <Anak1n> !opera
[07:18] <kevogod> eddan, It basically just installs all the packages part of Ubuntu.
[07:18] <nalioth> mon: learning is not to be apologetic over
[07:18] <kevogod> eddan, Removing it will not remove the packages it installs.
[07:18] <Thunderguy> Hey is there a good CD-DVD Recording tools front-end for Gnome? ( such as K3B in Kubuntu ) ?
[07:19] <mon> nalioth: i know, still it seems i assume to much sometimes :)
[07:19] <mon> Thunderguy: depends on what you want to do
[07:19] <Thunderguy> Record audio cd's, burn Iso images, record cd-rw's, create dvd's
[07:20] <MrFaber> Thunderguy: cdroast or something like that but it is not as good
[07:20] <jstrubberg> I think you can do all of that with a right click, actually...
[07:20] <Thunderguy> ah, you know something that might be desktop independent?
[07:20] <mon> Thunderguy: there's gnomebaker and coaster but k3b still has my preference
[07:20] <mon> Thunderguy: cdrtools ;)
[07:20] <Thunderguy> Of course.
[07:20] <jstrubberg> nautilus works fine for recording DVDs and CDs
[07:20] <Thunderguy> Would K3B work in Gnome? >.>
[07:20] <Anak1n> !mplayer
[07:20] <ubotu> mplayer is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto.  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[07:20] <mon> Thunderguy: just great
[07:21] <Thunderguy> really?
[07:21] <mon> Thunderguy: ehr, works just great i meant
[07:21] <MrFaber> Thunderguy: of course
[07:21] <clinfix> I cant install k3b-mp3 package , it says package not found,how can I install it?
[07:21] <mon> Thunderguy: ofcourse it just needs to load some libraries so it takes a little while
[07:21] <nenotnom> what's going on with the mirrormax backports?
[07:21] <MrFaber> Thunderguy: you have never used IE except your two minutes and you don't know that K3B works under Gnome? :-D
[07:22] <Anak1n> can someone tell me what to use for cd/dvd burning k3b or something else?
[07:22] <Thunderguy> see I noticed when I went to kubuntu desktop, gnome programs didn't want to work there, not sure if it is vice-versa
[07:22] <MrFaber> Thunderguy: have you been froozen for ten years? ;)
[07:22] <snorks> Anak1n: gnomebaker
[07:22] <Anak1n> !gnombaker
[07:22] <ubotu> No idea, Anak1n
[07:22] <snorks> !gnomebaker
[07:22] <ubotu> snorks: Wish i knew
[07:22] <Thunderguy> MrFaber: I been using the command line mostly in linux
[07:22] <Anak1n> nothing from ubotu
[07:22] <Anak1n> :)
[07:22] <MrFaber> Thunderguy: thats strange but seems logical
[07:22] <MrFaber> :)
[07:23] <Thunderguy> I couldn't get over ncurses
[07:23] <snorks> Anak1n: apt-cache search gnomebaker
[07:23] <Thunderguy> It was just so fun.
[07:23] <_jason> i'm curious... can you get ubuntu on a handheld?
[07:23] <mon> Thunderguy: you're kidding me :)
[07:23] <Thunderguy> Then someone tells me, dude.. they have an xserver !
[07:23] <nenotnom> anyone else having problem connecting to the mirrormax backport?
[07:23] <werto> yo all ^__^/
[07:24] <Thunderguy> Irssi was my favorite chat client
[07:24] <werto> i'm a new ubuntu breezy user
[07:24] <Thunderguy> Lynx was my favorite browser.
[07:24] <Thunderguy> and I used Mutt for my email.
[07:24] <werto> so
[07:24] <nenotnom> hej werto
[07:24] <werto> i had some problems
[07:24] <funkyHat> tell us about them then. we can probably help you with them
[07:25] <werto> i've a hp pavilion amd64, and i installed ubuntu breezy amd64, so there are some problems with w32codecs and marillat repository and ati driver
[07:25] <mattyJ> is there anyway to use voip with google talk in linux yet?
[07:25] <mon> mattyJ: check the google talk website on gaim
[07:25] <werto> so i can't listen to mp3 and about video, i've to set xorg with vesa and not with ati
[07:25] <Anak1n> snoks: thanks ;)
[07:26] <werto> but i've a ati xpress 200m ..
[07:26] <mon> werto: i have zero experience with amd64 installs, but i'd recommend a 32bit install for now
[07:26] <werto> yes?
[07:26] <Anak1n> snorks: thanks ;)
[07:26] <mattyJ> mon: i did, didnt say anything for voip, was wondering if there is anything that works yet that has not made an official release
[07:26] <mon> unless there are some brilliant amd64 users here who can help you out? :)
[07:26] <nenotnom> anyone know what's up with the unofficial ubuntu backports?
[07:26] <Anak1n> !amarok
[07:26] <ubotu> amarok is probably a music player for Linux and Unix with an intuitive interface. See http://amarok.kde.org ; amaroK's features: http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/51/1/
[07:26] <mon> mattyJ: oh sorry i didn't read the "voip" part
[07:27] <mon> mattyJ: no idea then
[07:27] <werto> mon, so you think that's better to install ubuntu breezy 32 bit?
[07:27] <mon> i'd personally recommend it since i know everthing "just works" then
[07:27] <werto> so i have a amd64, should i install a 32 bit?
[07:27] <mon> werto: there are some amd64 specific packages that just don't work unfortunatly
[07:28] <werto> everithings should works?
[07:28] <mon> werto: that's what i would do
[07:28] <jstrubberg> nenotnom, check the ubuntu forums under backports.  The unofficial ones have been shut down
[07:28] <nenotnom> jstrubberg: thanks for the info
[07:29] <werto> mon, 32bit packages will execute in a 64 bit machine?
[07:29] <mon> werto: "normal" windows + apps work too right? yeah it will :)
[07:29] <werto> :D
[07:29] <shekhar> hello can someone tell me which repository is needed for libforms-java?
[07:29] <werto> yes, i'm slow :D
[07:29] <werto> so thanks so much :)
[07:30] <mon> nalioth: how did you solve the mounting issue with Secreth`X ?
[07:30] <n00bster> how can add shortcuts to the programs that are in the main menu ?
[07:30] <Anak1n> !fat32
[07:30] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, fat32 is http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[07:30] <werto> i should install breezy or hoary, so i have a new hp laptot
[07:30] <werto> laptop
[07:30] <mon> werto: np, now go install ;)
[07:30] <werto> (sorry for my bad english ^_^'')
[07:30] <jstrubberg> n00bster, you mean a desktop icon?
[07:30] <Anak1n> I love ubotu :))
[07:31] <mon> werto: if you have some expierence already and no problem with a few bugs you should go with breezy, hoary otherwise
[07:31] <proxykillah> new linux user here, would you guys recommend it?
[07:31] <n00bster> no, imean, like in windows, there is a tab sore it
[07:31] <mon> werto: i think breezy is getting pretty stable now though
[07:31] <proxykillah> recommend ubuntu*
[07:31] <mon> proxykillah: what do you think, they'd recommend fedora core in here? ;)
[07:31] <Anak1n> fedora :lol
[07:31] <werto> mon, i'll make what you say to me :)
[07:32] <proxykillah> lol mon.
[07:32] <mon> werto: do you have some linux expierence already?
[07:32] <mon> werto: i'd hate to give you bad advice which would lead to bad linux expierence :)
[07:32] <jstrubberg> n00bster: Oh, you mean add icons for prgrams TO the menus?
[07:33] <werto> mon: don't you know what i should do about ati driver?
[07:33] <mon> werto: i've had an ati and dumped it for an nvidia.. but that'll be a bit difficult on a laptop. it should work though
[07:33] <n00bster> no, i' mean using the icons that are allready there..
[07:33] <n00bster> i mean  - keyboard shortcuts  -
[07:34] <ubuntuguy> anyone: there is a newsgroup I want to read, can I use Evolution for that purpose?
[07:34] <zetor> hi there all!
[07:34] <n00bster> sory if i wassent clear.
[07:34] <jstrubberg> Ahhhh
[07:34] <jstrubberg> Gotcha
[07:34] <werto> mon oh.... ok, so i should continue using Vesa driver? _
[07:35] <mon> werto: i'd install hoary or breezy with the ati driver (32bit ofcourse) the ati driver should work
[07:35] <ubuntuguy> OK... I take that as a 'no'..
[07:36] <christian-> 716 frames in 5.0 seconds = 143.200 FPS
[07:36] <Anak1n> yea i install opera
[07:36] <Anak1n> :)
[07:36] <christian-> How do I raise my FPS ?
[07:36] <jstrubberg> n00bster: take a look under System/Preferences/Keyboard shortcuts.  Not sure what you are wanting to launch, but there are quite a few built in that you can modify
[07:36] <n00bster> i mean  - keyboard shortcuts  -
[07:36] <werto> but they don't, because when gnome is first time login, it bloks! and if i set xorg to vesa, it dont :)
[07:36] <clinfix> I am not able to install java-package java-common too, do i need to add new repositories?
[07:36] <mon> werto: on a 64bit install?
[07:36] <mon> ubuntuguy: yeah try it
[07:36] <christian-> !fps
[07:36] <ubotu> christian-: What?
[07:37] <n00bster> i want to launch the software that are in the main menu with keyabord shortcus
[07:37] <Anak1n> !skype troubleshot
[07:37] <ubotu> Wish i knew, Anak1n
[07:37] <mon> christian-: if you have an ati or nvidia 3d accelerator thingie, install the appropriate driver
[07:37] <christian-> acceerator ?
[07:37] <n00bster> lik: Ctrl+ m opens mail software , and so on ...
[07:37] <christian-> l*
[07:37] <mon> christian-: graphics card
[07:37] <christian-> I'll look into it and report back
[07:37] <werto> mon: yes _
[07:38] <mon> christian-: you do that :)
[07:38] <werto> breezy amd64 on a amd64 vith ati xpress 200m 128 mb
[07:38] <mon> werto: install breezy then! :)
[07:38] <mon> werto: 32bit i mean
[07:38] <werto> mon, yes, and i continue using vesa driver?
[07:38] <mon> werto: hmm could be a temporary breezy bug that get's fixed though...
[07:38] <dashrike> any good alternatives to gaim?
[07:38] <mon> werto: you could try to search bugzilla and the forums
[07:39] <funkyHat> dashrike, if you like KDE, Kopete
[07:39] <dashrike> k
[07:39] <jstrubberg> n00bster, I know there are shortcuts in there for email and browser, just highlight them and then press the key combination you want to use to call the app.
[07:39] <werto> mon, oh thanks so much of all your help ^__^
[07:39] <mon> dashrike: for msn only: amsn
[07:39] <werto> i'll keep what you said :)
[07:39] <kkathman> dashrike: if you want to run KDE, you can use kopete instead of GAIM I suppose.
[07:39] <n00bster> can i make custom keyboard shortcuts ??
[07:39] <funkyHat> yep
[07:39] <mon> jstrubberg: wow i didn't know that. Gnome is great :)
[07:39] <werto> now, i'm going away
[07:39] <mon> werto: good luck
[07:40] <jstrubberg> I know you can change the ones listed, not sure you can make new ones.
[07:40] <funkyHat> n00bster, system > Preferences > keyboard shortcuts
[07:40] <werto-aaaway> thanks ^_^
[07:40] <jstrubberg> Which is a shame
[07:40] <mon> you can make new ones, but the options are limited is what i found out
[07:40] <funkyHat> n00bster, if the one you want to set isn't there, PM me and i'll talk you through setting up others
[07:40] <n00bster> yes, but there is no "custom" shortcut to be made from there ..
[07:40] <funkyHat> ok
[07:41] <n00bster> i'll check agin.
[07:41] <flipy> hi!
[07:41] <funkyHat> hi flipy
[07:41] <jstrubberg> Ok, I see how it can be done now.  Messy, but it gets you there I guess
[07:42] <n00bster> nop, it dont have that option there
[07:42] <flipy> I've set up a www server, but all files in /var/www root cannot be written, but directories like /var/www/foo are writeable.. what's wrong? :(
[07:42] <n00bster> whats PM you ?
[07:42] <g|patrick> hi
[07:42] <g|patrick> is someone using 3ddesk here?
[07:42] <ubuntuguy> mon: I did try it... I've done this with thunderbird but I can't figure out how to do it with Evolution
[07:43] <funkyHat> flipy, do chown *youruser* /var/www/*
[07:43] <funkyHat> n00bster, /msg funkyhat *message*
[07:43] <mon> ubuntuguy: hm i never did it either, sorry :) try the help or homepage i guess
[07:43] <g|patrick> have a question why its stuttering all the time
[07:43] <g|patrick> if its active
[07:43] <deflux-> what is colony cd 5?
[07:43] <flipy> funkyHat: yes, I've did that, and didn't work
[07:43] <deflux-> Is that an actual release?
[07:43] <mon> g|patrick: because it's very alpha i think
[07:43] <g|patrick> mon: but its nice :)
[07:43] <mon> deflux-: it's a sort of beta release
[07:44] <eddan> I'm trying to follow the RestrictedFormats guide to install Sun's Java but I can't seem to find the java-package that should be available.. I need the make-jpkg utility to make things work. Any ideas?
[07:44] <deflux-> But I'm running the preview release.  Isn't that the same?
[07:44] <funkyHat> flipy, ok, chmod +w /var/www/*
[07:44] <mon> g|patrick: sure it is, all bleeding edge stuff is :) don't expect it to work great just jet though
[07:44] <g|patrick> is it possible to let it sotre images to a ram disc
[07:44] <flipy> funkyHat: ok
[07:44] <funkyHat> (as you)
[07:44] <g|patrick> so that the stuttering becomes reduced?
[07:44] <funkyHat> not through sudo
[07:44] <g|patrick> any idea?
[07:44] <Pickle_Weasel> is there a kernel compiling how-to? >.>
[07:45] <mon> eddan: maybe you need universe or multiverse in your sources.list?
[07:45] <g|patrick> i have increased the update intervall to 60sec
[07:45] <g|patrick> and it really helped
[07:45] <mon> !java-package
[07:45] <ubotu> mon: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[07:45] <clinfix> I cant find the packages that I need,where can I find new repositories?
[07:45] <mon> eddan: ah multiverse :)
[07:45] <ubuntuguy> any Evolution experts here/
[07:46] <g|patrick> or is it possible to make it not update until the 3d window is requested
[07:46] <eddan> mon: Will try, thanks!
[07:46] <flipy> funkyHat: thanks
[07:47] <funkyHat> np :)
[07:47] <clinfix> apt-get install java-package fakeroot
[07:47] <clinfix> these packages dont exist
[07:48] <Anak1n> someone please help me evrything is working fine but i have problem with skype. I need skype :( :'(
[07:49] <christian-> clinfix, http://packages.debian.org/unstable/misc/java-package
[07:50] <clinfix> christian-, :can I use debian sources?
[07:50] <clinfix> can I add debian repositories?
[07:50] <darkheart> clinfix Only if you want to break things.
[07:50] <christian-> sec, let me just check which one I downloaded. I don't think so
[07:50] <Thunderguy> Use caution.
[07:51] <christian-> java-package_0.26_all.deb
[07:51] <Thunderguy> If you want to break things go get the latest libc6
[07:51] <christian-> That one ended up working for me
[07:51] <christian-> Though I had to extrat all the stuff manually.
[07:51] <christian-> like, cp that there etc
[07:51] <clinfix> darkheart, :than where can I find java-package for ubuntu?
[07:51] <jstrubberg> Doggone it, now I have a dozen new hotkeys to set up!  Man, that is handy stuff
[07:52] <grogoreo> hi
[07:54] <nalioth> clinfix: are you wanting java?
[07:54] <clinfix> nalioth, :yes
[07:54] <nalioth> clinfix: hoary or breezy?
[07:55] <[A] ndy80> I've a problem to solve. In a room we have 8 pc and one server. All these PC have Ubuntu. We want two main things: the first is that autentication is not made locally, but against a user list on server, the second thing is that /home is not local on the pc, we want it mounted remotely and to be on the servr hard disk. How can we do this thing?
[07:55] <g|patrick> is it possible to make gnome have different backgrounds
[07:55] <g|patrick> on differen tworkspaces
[07:55] <clinfix> nalioth, :5.04
[07:55] <ubuntu> this is pretty cool
[07:55] <oxez> hm, I just let breezy installs the latest updates on my system, ended up with installations errors, and now when I type commands (cp, mv, ls etc..) I get Segmentation Fault.. what's wrong!?
[07:55] <g|patrick> nalioth :)
[07:55] <g|patrick> hi
[07:55] <nalioth> [A] ndy80: use NFS from the client machines to access the server (for the $HOMEDIR)
[07:55] <mon> [A] ndy80: you probably want LDAP and NFS. don't ask for the details though ;)
[07:55] <ubuntu> I am running the Live Cd to get a taste of this OS
[07:55] <nalioth> clinfix: http://www.giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/
[07:56] <nalioth> g|patrick: howdy
[07:56] <[A] ndy80> nalioth: ok for the /home :)
[07:56] <[A] ndy80> mon: LDAP? Is kerberos ok too?
[07:56] <nalioth> [A] ndy80: like mon said, i have no clue on the remote authentication
[07:56] <g|patrick> how is the wheather in america
[07:56] <mon> [A] ndy80: i only have expierence with NFS. for LDAP or kerberos... i don't know which does what
[07:57] <[A] ndy80> ok, thanks
[07:57] <g|patrick> nalioth? :)
[07:57] <clinfix> nalioth, :I have read the document about mp3 and follow the instructions but it didnt work,can you tellme which package do I need to install for listening mp3?
[07:57] <mon> [A] ndy80: should be plenty of info about it on the net though
[07:57] <nalioth> clinfix: gstreamer0.8-mad
[07:58] <mon> nalioth: Secreth`X has that problem too. it seems the wiki has changed to an etch server, but that doesn't have the gstreamer0.8-mad package?
[07:58] <jstrubberg> Andy80, I would recommend thin client, unless you have some super-heavy graphic or sound apps
[07:58] <clinfix> nalioth, :it is already installed
[07:58] <nalioth> clinfix: then you have other problems
[07:58] <NightLord> lemme do a bit of a vote here:
[07:58] <nalioth> ubotu: tell clinfix about sound
[07:59] <NightLord> If apple ported itunes to linux, would you use it with an ipod?
[07:59] <jstrubberg> Anyone know what's going on with Wine?  I understand they are going non-free?
[07:59] <g|patrick> amarok does the same
[07:59] <g|patrick> it may do it even better
[07:59] <g|patrick> jstrubberg: wine is still free
[07:59] <mon> NightLord: if you gave me an ipod and itunes would be significantly better than the OSS competetion. so in short: small chance ;)
[07:59] <g|patrick> either the cvs of cedega
[07:59] <[Wiebel] > hmm
[07:59] <ABRAXAS77> hi
[07:59] <g|patrick> but the cedega stuff with gui frontend isnt anymore
[07:59] <[Wiebel] > bootsplash seems to be broken
[07:59] <jstrubberg> Ah
[07:59] <[Wiebel] > in breezy
[08:00] <g|patrick> in breezy is a new stuff...
[08:00] <jstrubberg> Thanks.  I have a couple of windows apps I woul hate to lose.
[08:00] <g|patrick> i dont like it
[08:00] <flam> is there a gnome-app similar to kate? i love kate but i don't want to install all the kde libs etc.
[08:00] <ABRAXAS77> mon, what is ur problem?
[08:00] <g|patrick> jstrubberg: but dont expect too much
[08:00] <g|patrick> games perfoming bad if they cant use ogl native
[08:00] <mon> ABRAXAS77: ehr nothing why?
[08:01] <g|patrick> but apps like photoshop work fine
[08:01] <clinfix> nalioth, :I can here the sound when ubuntu starts
[08:01] <oxez> anyone know why would basic commands 'cp', 'mv' would go 'Segmentation fault'?
[08:01] <ABRAXAS77> mon,  sorry,u tought i have problem with X
[08:01] <g|patrick> mon: is it possible to assing different wallpapers to different workspaces?
[08:01] <rjcarr> just installed 5.04 last night
[08:01] <nalioth> clinfix: i'm not much help on sound issues
[08:01] <rjcarr> everything went great
[08:01] <ABRAXAS77> oxez,  u can download them again
[08:01] <g|patrick> using gnome
[08:01] <jstrubberg> I have one relational reporting tool that will probably never make the jump to *nix.  Handy as heck, though
[08:01] <nalioth> g|patrick: yes
[08:01] <mon> ABRAXAS77: actually i sorta had. but i can't remember telling it here :)
[08:01] <rjcarr> trying to use synaptic to install subversion
[08:01] <mon> g|patrick: nope, only in kde afaik
[08:01] <rjcarr> search doesn't find it
[08:01] <rjcarr> ideas?
[08:01] <mon> yes? oops
[08:01] <mon> :)
[08:02] <oxez> ABRAXAS77: what do I install?
[08:02] <nalioth> !info subversion
[08:02] <ubotu> subversion: (Advanced version control system (aka. svn)), section devel, is optional. Version: 1.1.1-2ubuntu3 (hoary), Packaged size: 953 kB, Installed size: 3072 kB
[08:02] <ABRAXAS77> oxez,  the commands
[08:02] <g|patrick> mon: thats weired... kde has better appz... but i dont like their gui X)
[08:02] <ABRAXAS77> oxez,  they are broken?
[08:02] <nalioth> rjcarr: svn is there
[08:02] <rjcarr> what do you mean it is there?
[08:02] <oxez> ABRAXAS77: when I type mv I get: Segmentation fault.
[08:02] <clinfix> nalioth, :why don't some packages (like java-package) exist with ubuntu?
[08:02] <mon> g|patrick: according to nalioth there is something :)
[08:02] <nalioth> clinfix: licensing issues
[08:02] <mon> nalioth: ?
[08:02] <oxez> ABRAXAS77: this is after latest updates, which resulted in an error in gdm
[08:03] <g|patrick> really :)
[08:03] <nalioth> mon: yes?
[08:03] <rjcarr> i do a search, nothing comes up
[08:03] <g|patrick> crap its raining here...
[08:03] <nalioth> ubotu: tell rjcarr about sources
[08:03] <rjcarr> i just have the install disc
[08:03] <mon> nalioth: about the background per desktop thing, how/what?
[08:03] <clinfix> nalioth, :will they be included?
[08:03] <rjcarr> thanks ubotu ... I'll check out the sources
[08:03] <nalioth> clinfix: java-package should be available
[08:04] <rjcarr> i figured i had to add a repository
[08:04] <nerp>  http://gawth.org/code/e17new.jpg
[08:04] <nerp>  http://gawth.org/code/e17new1.jpg
[08:04] <nerp>  http://gawth.org/code/e17new2.jpg
[08:04] <ColonelKernel> breezy daily build looks good - except for two things - theres no "open terminal" when you right click on the desktop, and while i'll just get lauged at again, theres no text output for glxgears
[08:05] <nalioth> ColonelKernel: there is a plugin to address the "open here"
[08:05] <ColonelKernel> I dont know what "open here" means
[08:05] <mon> ColonelKernel: do fps show in glxgears self or not at all?
[08:06] <ColonelKernel> mon - glxgears self? I dont understand - it doesnt show fps in the console
[08:06] <mon> ColonelKernel: if you don't see any FPS rate at all i'd guess it's a bug in glxgears
[08:06] <jpfarias> hey guys
[08:06] <ABRAXAS77> oxez,  wait,im looking in google
[08:06] <nalioth> ColonelKernel: open terminal plugin is available, lemme get the name of it
[08:06] <ColonelKernel> mon, yeah I guess - too bad I cant usethe glxgears from hoary
[08:06] <ColonelKernel> nalioth, rockin!
[08:06] <jpfarias> does anyone knows how to configure the 2 monitor as an extended desktop?
[08:07] <mon> ColonelKernel: you could compile it i guess, if you really need it
[08:07] <jpfarias> my one just works as a clone of the first
[08:07] <nalioth> ColonelKernel: nautilus-open-terminal
[08:07] <oxez> ABRAXAS77: ok thank you. and now everytime I want to install something with apt-get, it tries to reinstall firefox, firefox-gnome-support and gdm. This ends up with errors, and some seg faults
[08:07] <ColonelKernel> nalioth, just apt-get install nautilus-open-terminal?
[08:07] <g|patrick> nalioth: where u reffering to my problem or was it jsut chatting as u said "yes"
[08:07] <ColonelKernel> hey my old ship is in New Orleans!
[08:07] <zer0`> glxgears prints out fps every 5 seconds
[08:07] <nalioth> ColonelKernel: that should do it (an apt-cache search definitely will show it)
[08:07] <mon> nalioth: hmm will that plugin be mentioned by ubuntu? i think hoary users would miss that option
[08:07] <ColonelKernel> nalioth, rockin - thank you very much
[08:08] <nalioth> g|patrick: you "should" be able to get different window dressing in each window
[08:08] <ABRAXAS77> oxez,  u updated libraries?
[08:08] <Eppu> ColonelKernel: you should get glxgears fps output with glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[08:08] <ColonelKernel> they should justmake it part of the default installation package when breezy is released
[08:08] <g|patrick> nalioth: how?
[08:08] <oxez> ABRAXAS77: which libraries?
[08:08] <nalioth> g|patrick: if that isnt your answer, i'm very lost on multiple channels
[08:08] <wesley> caras..
[08:08] <ABRAXAS77> oxez,  any library...
[08:08] <ColonelKernel> Eppu, yeah and myabe you could get it to work with glxgears -horsesassmakingirrelevantandinsultingcomments
[08:08] <mon> nalioth: lol it is, you're just a bit behind :)
[08:08] <pluffsy> hello
[08:09] <ABRAXAS77> oxez,  i see people that tried update mozzilla received this error
[08:09] <oxez> ABRAXAS77: I let synaptic do the updates for me
[08:09] <jstrubberg> jpfarias, try setting the "Xinerama" option to "on"
[08:09] <g|patrick> nalioth: dont become depressive because of me ;(
[08:09] <Eppu> ColonelKernel: I am not kidding, the glxgears in breezy requires that option
[08:09] <jpfarias> jstrubberg, ok
[08:09] <pluffsy> how do I restart apache2 in ubuntu? from cli. I used to do something like service httpd restart but that was apache 1 and redhat :) that doesn't work here and I didn't find anything in the wiki'
[08:09] <ColonelKernel> Eppu, sure
[08:09] <mon> lol
[08:09] <jpfarias> brb
[08:09] <ABRAXAS77> oxez,  i think u need reinstall many libraries,let me see which
[08:09] <mon> ColonelKernel: try it then!
[08:09] <ColonelKernel> take that manure back to #debian
[08:10] <ColonelKernel> oh yeah NTP gives a temp failure in name resolution during boot
[08:10] <nalioth> ColonelKernel: and what's new about that?
[08:10] <ColonelKernel> nalioth, doesnt do it in hoary
[08:10] <clinfix> how can I restore grub ,I have to install windows?
[08:11] <oxez> ColonelKernel: he says the truth I just tried it haha
[08:11] <nalioth> ColonelKernel: my breezy has always hung on ntp sync
[08:11] <mon> ColonelKernel: check http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=56574 2nd post
[08:11] <seth_k|lappy> clinfix, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[08:11] <seth_k|lappy> or some name like that, let me check the exact name
[08:11] <seth_k|lappy> yeah I got it right :D
[08:11] <jpfarias> jstrubberg, it didn't worked
[08:11] <ColonelKernel> nalioth, alrighty - then perhaps its something the breezy developers ought to fix, eh?
[08:11] <jpfarias> got a clone again
[08:12] <nalioth> clinfix: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[08:12] <concept10> Im glad clinfix has mentioned that.  I upgrated breezy the other day and the 'boot manager package' disapeared.  anyone know what it is called?
[08:12] <ABRAXAS77> oxez,  did u read me?
[08:12] <nalioth> ColonelKernel: have you looked at bugzilla to see if its on the list?
[08:12] <oxez> yea
[08:12] <nalioth> ColonelKernel: are you behind a router?
[08:12] <mon> pluffsy: something like /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[08:12] <ColonelKernel> nalioth, yes i am
[08:13] <jstrubberg> jpfarias:  Still have identical desktops?
[08:13] <ColonelKernel> no I havent looked at bugzilla - and package nautilus-open-terminal isnt found
[08:13] <jpfarias> jstrubberg, yep
[08:13] <nalioth> ColonelKernel: try starting your breezy directly connected
[08:13] <jpfarias> jstrubberg, still clones?
[08:13] <jpfarias> jstrubberg, still clones!
[08:13] <nalioth> ColonelKernel: search for "nautilus"
[08:14] <ColonelKernel> nalioth, I just did, it aint there
[08:14] <nalioth> ColonelKernel: i have it in my breezy sources
[08:14] <TheRabbit> Is there a way to look at the interworkings of an online java or php game?
[08:14] <ABRAXAS77> oxez,  please
[08:14] <ABRAXAS77> oxez,  make it
[08:14] <oxez> I pmed you
[08:14] <concept10> nalioth, what is that package called that is basically a graphical grub manager?
[08:15] <oxez> http://24.122.115.48/~oxez/b
[08:15] <ColonelKernel> nalioth - couple you pastebin your sources please?
[08:15] <ColonelKernel> could I mean
[08:15] <nalioth> ColonelKernel: surely
[08:15] <oxez> I cannot open firefox to paste it ABRAXAS77, it's broken, so I pasted the output to that file
[08:15] <ABRAXAS77> oxez,  hablas castellano?
[08:15] <ColonelKernel> nalioth, gracias - this community is 1000x better than any other linux community - `fo `sho - you guys rocks
[08:15] <ColonelKernel> rock
[08:15] <oxez> ABRAXAS77: english?
[08:16] <ABRAXAS77> oxez,  sorry,i saw ur ubuntu is spanish...
[08:16] <[LethAL] > ColonelKernel, I agree :D
[08:16] <oxez> ABRAXAS77: it's french :p
[08:16] <nalioth> ABRAXAS77: english in here please, spanish in #ubuntu-es and french in #ubuntu-fr
[08:16] <ABRAXAS77> nalioth,  ok
[08:16] <ColonelKernel> i have never found a linux community that I'd feel comfortable enough migrating my stepmom's business over - but I have now
[08:17] <ColonelKernel> all they do is web and MS office on their machines
[08:17] <othernoob> ColonelKernel: then why change it
[08:17] <grindhouse> yo
[08:17] <ColonelKernel> and their server is DOS based, reunning some lantastic software - she pays some guys 100 bucks an hour to work on it
[08:17] <grindhouse> i hate you all
[08:17] <othernoob> ColonelKernel: nvm...
[08:18] <ColonelKernel> I told her she needs to migrate to linux and pay a college student, so she doesnt have to pay such exhorbitant fees to upkeep this old DOS based bookkeeping software
[08:19] <CarlFK> ColonelKernel - where?
[08:19] <christian-> Right, to install nvidia linux drivers I  need to shutdown X. How do I do that?
[08:20] <christian-> I tried that whole alt-ctrl-F1 stuff, X was still detected
[08:20] <CarlFK> christian- - um, no.  get the package from synaptic
[08:20] <christian-> linux nvidia? Is that possible ?
[08:21] <CarlFK> yes.
[08:21] <ColonelKernel> CarlFK, tucson arizona
[08:21] <CarlFK> ColonelKernel - rats.  bit far from Chicago
[08:21] <PoTs> I'm using breezy on a laptop, how can i configure the touchpad? (it works, but i want to stop the tapping)
[08:21] <ColonelKernel> nalioth, thats it, I had to add multiverse universe to it
[08:21] <nalioth> ColonelKernel: ok good
[08:22] <nalioth> everyone should have uni and multi in their sources
[08:22] <delp> can someone send me the link on how to connect ntfs file partitions to linux so i can read files from it?
[08:22] <jstrubberg> Colonel: If all they are running are office apps and web, a default ubuntu install ought to do the trick.  Bet they wouldn't need much in the way of support, either
[08:23] <jstrubberg> Or a server, really
[08:23] <nalioth> ubotu: tell delp about ntfs
[08:24] <ColonelKernel> Eppu, I owe you an apology
[08:24] <spiral> hi
[08:24] <ColonelKernel> I cant beleve thats really an option
[08:24] <Secreth`X> !mount windows
[08:24] <ubotu> Secreth`X: Are you smoking crack?
[08:24] <Secreth`X> ..
[08:24] <Secreth`X> darn
[08:24] <nalioth> Secreth`X: you want /msg ubotu windowsdrives
[08:24] <Secreth`X> ah
[08:24] <Secreth`X> k
[08:25] <NightLord> can someone help, i can't get my canon i250 which is connected to XP to print from XP
[08:25] <NightLord> erm, print from ubuntu
[08:26] <NightLord> hey, dd uses plusnet ^_^
[08:26] <jstrubberg> NightLord, do you have print services for Linux installed on the windows machine?
[08:26] <dd> yip :)
[08:26] <NightLord> erm...i doubt it
[08:26] <NightLord> thing is, it comes up in the print job queue in windows, and the light on the printer flashes, but it won't actually print :(
[08:26] <CarlFK> NightLord - is the printer "shared" ?
[08:27] <Anak1n> gnomebaker won't erase dvd-rw?
[08:27] <NightLord> under status it says Ready: Unable to connect to SAMBA host, will retry in 60 seconds...ERROR:  Connection failed with error NT_STATUS_REQUEST_NOT_ACCEPTED
[08:27] <NightLord> of course it is, i'm not a complete twit
[08:27] <CarlFK> NightLord - so yes.  I had the exact problem with an HP 3220
[08:27] <dd> what ide's are you guys using?
[08:27] <delp> does anyone know if the flash plugin is supported with the AMD64 version yet?
[08:27] <jstrubberg> Install print services for Unix on the windows box.
[08:27] <cute_bettong> how do i remove the new ubuntu screensavers?
[08:27] <jstrubberg> You will need the XP install disk
[08:27] <NightLord> ok, got that
[08:28] <juhan> hello
[08:28] <CarlFK> NightLord - wait.. not that error.  the print job would make it to win's spooler, but then just sit there and get in the way of all other jobs including local ones
[08:28] <cute_bettong> i have a screensaver icon in prefs that has a screen with a flame in it
[08:28] <NightLord> thats what mine does!
[08:28] <cute_bettong> and i want to keep that one but the one that has a screen and a moon i want to remove\
[08:29] <NightLord> it set to randome
[08:29] <Secreth`X> Is there a way to save what you'v done on the Live CD?
[08:29] <NightLord> go to screensavers and change it to one screensaver
[08:29] <cute_bettong> anyone know how to get rid of it?
[08:29] <juhan> I'm a n00b at ubuntu, but I'd still like to have estonian keyboard layout, can somebody help me?
[08:29] <NightLord> and set it to the preferred one
[08:29] <cute_bettong> no thats not what i want
[08:29] <NightLord> sure juhan
[08:29] <juhan> cool
[08:29] <cute_bettong> i want to remove the new screensaver app that breezy has
[08:29] <NightLord> go to system>preferences>keyboard
[08:30] <juhan> ok
[08:30] <jstrubberg> NightLord, you want Control Panel-->Add/Remove Programs/, Add/Remove Windows Components, then Other file and network services.  check Print Services for Unix, then OK
[08:30] <NightLord> cool
[08:30] <NightLord> go to layouts and choose add new layouts
[08:30] <NightLord> and set to estonian :)
[08:30] <sinistermilk> hello
[08:30] <Secreth`X> Is there a way to save what you'v done on the Live CD?
[08:30] <sinistermilk> i have a few questions
[08:31] <sinistermilk> to whom do i direct them>
[08:31] <sinistermilk> ?
[08:31] <juhan> and now?
[08:32] <juhan> like I have done this several times, but it still will not change to estonian
[08:32] <sinistermilk> how do i install ubuntu with to a dual boot?
[08:32] <NightLord> did you tick it and put it on top of the list?
[08:32] <NightLord> jstrubberg
[08:32] <NightLord> did thats
[08:32] <NightLord> should i try to print again?
[08:33] <delp> do i need to download xmms or is it already on here somewhere?
[08:33] <juhan> yes, ticked it
[08:33] <NightLord> ok, printing, wish me luck ^_^
[08:33] <juhan> there is just estonian left
[08:33] <g|patrick> well
[08:33] <g|patrick> i think i found a tool
[08:33] <jstrubberg> Might not be a bad idea to run through connecting to the printer again, but it should work without that
[08:33] <g|patrick> http://wallpapoz.sourceforge.net/ <-- how do i install it?
[08:33] <g|patrick> cant find a deb
[08:34] <kevogod> I believe XMMS is installed by default.
[08:34] <sinistermilk> ???
[08:34] <Belutz> kevogod, no it is not
[08:34] <jstrubberg> Installation instructions are right beneath the link, gl
[08:34] <kevogod> If not, then go to System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager, and then search for XMMS.
[08:34] <Secreth`X> Is there a way to save what you'v done on the Live CD?
[08:35] <juhan> still no luck with changing the language
[08:35] <delp> ok, thanks kevo
[08:35] <Recon> I got a tar.gz file, and i can't figure out how to install it.
[08:35] <sinistermilk> under what link?
[08:35] <Recon> i got it from tucows
[08:35] <kevogod> delp, Then hit apply.
[08:35] <Recon> ?
[08:35] <delp> alright, thanks
[08:35] <nalioth> g|patrick: you rascal. d/l the source and use checkinstall instead of make isntall
[08:35] <Belutz> anyone knows how to create an ssl certificate?
[08:35] <Secreth`X> Is there a way to save what you'v done on the Live CD?
[08:36] <Recon> The "make" command doesn't work on Ubuntu.
[08:36] <cute_bettong> how do i get glx gears to tell me the frame rate?
[08:36] <delp> anyone know of a good place for wallpapers?
[08:36] <mon> delp: deviantart
[08:36] <nalioth> delp: www.deviantart.com
[08:36] <g|patrick> nalioth: hey i am a nap
[08:36] <nalioth> Recon: sure it does
[08:36] <sinistermilk> any one know how to install a dual boot?
[08:36] <jstrubberg> make doesn't work?  It should.
[08:36] <kennethlove> delp: customize.org
[08:36] <nalioth> Recon: install "build-essential"
[08:36] <g|patrick> don t even get the qucikinstalltutorial on that site ;)
[08:36] <Rockett18> delp: www.pixelgirlpresents.com
[08:36] <Belutz> cute_bettong, from terminal run glxgears
[08:36] <Recon> i get the error "bash : make doesn't exitst"
[08:36] <nalioth> g|patrick: have you compiled b4?
[08:36] <oxez> what would fix segmentation fault in commande like cp and mv?
[08:37] <g|patrick> how do i compile
[08:37] <delp> thank you all
[08:37] <nalioth> Recon: "build-essential"
[08:37] <g|patrick> i dont even know how to do
[08:37] <jstrubberg> Recon: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:37] <oxez> I need those commands to work to be able to fix my other problems :/
[08:37] <nalioth> g|patrick: join #kubuntu-offtopic
[08:37] <juhan> it won't even change to other languages
[08:37] <mon> cute_bettong: run it with: -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[08:37] <andril> hello all
[08:37] <cute_bettong> ok so what should i use to benchmark?
[08:37] <ColonelKernel> nice - well i'll definitely be upgrading to breezy as soon as its a stable release - looks pretty damn stable from here though
[08:37] <andril> anyone using ATI TV Wonder VE with Ubuntu?
[08:37] <mon> cute_bettong: glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[08:38] <cute_bettong> ok
[08:38] <g|patrick>  /join #kubuntu-offtopic
[08:38] <nalioth> ColonelKernel: you should peruse some raw source code sometime
[08:38] <mon> hehe me 2 ColonelKernel  :)
[08:38] <g|patrick> oh
[08:38] <cute_bettong> oh no shit i thought ya where screwin with me
[08:38] <g|patrick> a space
[08:38] <sinistermilk> how does the live cd thing work?
[08:38] <nalioth> cute_bettong: your tongue.
[08:38] <ColonelKernel> nalioth, I do, but not for glxgears
[08:38] <cute_bettong> sorry ..<
[08:39] <benkong2> nalioth; I think I might have figured it out my /chroot has a tree structure of /chroot/http/archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/" then I get the /dev /bin /boot etc. Could that be why chroot isn't acting correctly?
[08:39] <cute_bettong> 6210 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1241.920 FPS
[08:39] <cute_bettong> omg thats awsome if it where true
[08:39] <nalioth> benkong2: i am not a plant expert and know nothing about chroots
[08:40] <ColonelKernel> yeah I get good 3d results in breezy too
[08:40] <benkong2> nalioth; K that made me smile
[08:40] <cute_bettong> man
[08:40] <jstrubberg> andril: I have an ATI card with a TV out, but I don't think its the same one as yours.
[08:40] <ColonelKernel> cute_bettong, for a good idea of how 3d really works install enemy-territory and waste some nazis
[08:40] <Recon> how do you install tar.gz files?
[08:40] <cute_bettong> lol i have to by it first
[08:40] <boxman> my glxgears seems fucked.. it looked like it is locked at 25fps or something and never shows any results... i get nice 3d perfomance from 3d games like UT though
[08:40] <boxman> pretty odd
[08:41] <ompaul> boxman, language
[08:41] <mon> cute_bettong: nein, it's free! :)
[08:41] <cute_bettong> really where from i want i want
[08:41] <christian-> Right, I'm trying to install Cedega. After installing nvidia-stuff with the apt-get gui, my FPS is still not 500+, in fact, it's not even 250+ (measured with glxgears).
[08:41] <kevogod> boxman, This means you have synchronized it.
[08:41] <Recon> How do you install a tar.gz file after un-tar ing it
[08:41] <Recon> ?
[08:41] <_chavo> enemy territory is the best game evar!!!!
[08:41] <ColonelKernel> boxman,  glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark <-- not a joke, it works
[08:41] <boxman> kevogod, i have not touched it, and vsync is not activated.
[08:41] <christian-> However, I gave up on trying to increase my FPS and started to install Cedega
[08:41] <christian-> It's a .tgz file
[08:41] <boxman> ColonelKernel, aha..
[08:41] <christian-> How do i handle that ?
[08:41] <ColonelKernel> boxman, scary eh>
[08:41] <Recon> no, tar.gz
[08:41] <nalioth> ubotu: tell christian- about cli
[08:42] <jstrubberg> Recon: First you uncompress them with tar -zxf, then cd to the new directory and run ./configure, ./make and ./make install
[08:42] <cute_bettong> ok some one give me the link for that game please?
[08:42] <Recon> when I run make, I get "bash: make: command not found"
[08:42] <ColonelKernel> christian-, you changed you xorg.conf ?
[08:42] <w45yw45> o cannot get firefox to work with mplayer
[08:42] <boxman> ColonelKernel, yeah, that solved it :P
[08:42] <_chavo> christian-, they have .debs also
[08:42] <scribbles> do I need to partition XP on my own or is can ubuntu setup do it without damaging data
[08:42] <w45yw45> *I
[08:43] <jstrubberg> Recon: then you need to run sudo apt-get build-essential first to get the compile tools
[08:43] <boxman> i guess they must have changed something in recent versions then..
[08:43] <w45yw45> it almost finishes loading then crashes
[08:43] <ColonelKernel> boxman, IU just learned it a few minutes ago and I thought someone was being sarcastic
[08:43] <PoTs> anyone who knows how to deactivate the tapping on a touchpad (maxtaptime=0 doesn't seem to work)
[08:44] <christian-> It seems to me that it's easier actually to draw World of Warcraft in hand, frame by frame, than it is to actually install it
[08:44] <mon> w45yw45: there's a good howto on the ubuntu forum to get totem working with firefox
[08:44] <w45yw45> mon, thanks
[08:44] <Sophia> wqertg
[08:45] <StarKruzr> you know, I was going to go to class today
[08:45] <StarKruzr> but it just doesn't look like that's gonna happen.
[08:45] <StarKruzr> nope.
[08:45] <nalioth> scribbles: there are partition moving tools available
[08:45] <nalioth> scribbles: but as always, back up your data
[08:46] <jimcooncat> hi folks. trying to make LVM snapshots, and getting device-mapper error. Forum says I need to install the "dm-mirror" kernel module. Would someone give me a walkthrough how to install a kernal module?
[08:46] <andril> jstrubberg: you do, cool what software are you using to view TV?
[08:46] <nuopus> hello
[08:46] <nuopus> does anyone know which package to install to get dh_testdir?
[08:46] <darkheart> StarKruzr School's important. Don't shirk your duties. One day you'll regret it =)
[08:47] <oxez> what would fix segmentation fault in commande like cp and mv? I need those commands to work to be able to fix my other problems :/
[08:47] <nalioth> nuopus: dh-make ?
[08:48] <nuopus> ok. cuz im trying to install fglrx driver using the ati installer and it errored on that while making breezy package
[08:48] <christian-> If I do "sudo cp -av usr /usr/" does the command overwrite my 'real' usr file and deletes everything there ?
[08:48] <christian-> Because that
[08:49] <christian-> 's a lot easier than extract everything and then using cp filename < 1000
[08:49] <christian-> x*
[08:49] <Jan_> where does ubuntu hide init.d
[08:49] <cute_bettong> can someone help me with enemy terrirory i can't figure out what to do when i try to download it it goes to another page as a huge text file
[08:49] <_chavo> christian-, sudo tar xcf cedega.tgz -C /
[08:49] <priest> How do i edit my "places meny"? After an upgrade i have "initrd" under "Documents" and "Desktop".
[08:49] <cute_bettong> and i don't want the windows version
[08:49] <zer0`> /etc/init.d/
[08:50] <christian-> _chavo, you're my hero
[08:50] <christian-> that is
[08:50] <christian-> if it works :)
[08:50] <_chavo> -C tells tar to extract at a different directory
[08:50] <andril> jstrubberg: are you there? what type of software can I use?
[08:50] <F_> hello
[08:51] <F_> some french guys there ?
[08:51] <_chavo> and it won't replace your /usr it only overwrites files that are already there
[08:51] <ubuntu_user0255> can anyone help me... im having trouble installing Ubuntu
[08:51] <nalioth> cute_bettong: right click and "save as"
[08:51] <christian-> tar: You may not specify more than one `-Acdtrux' option
[08:51] <juhan> I'm back again and still struggling with the keyboard language selection, when selecting estonian language, it doesn't have an efect
[08:52] <christian-> _chavo, -acdtrux option ?
[08:52] <_chavo> christian-, sorry my bad, it's tar xzf
[08:52] <jstrubberg> andril: Sorry, mine is TV out, not in.  Try a google for MythTV, although it's probably overkill...
[08:52] <christian-> _chavo, no problem. I'll write that down. Seems like a good command.
[08:53] <andril> jstrubberg: thanks
[08:53] <B_166-ER-X> there is actually people speaking estonian :|
[08:53] <juhan> yeah
[08:53] <juhan> some
[08:53] <juhan> but not typing any
[08:53] <pluffsy> my caps lock key diod is backwards in ubuntu. any ideas on how to fix that?
[08:54] <B_166-ER-X> he
[08:54] <juhan> can you help me to type also?
[08:55] <B_166-ER-X> you probably have to add the locate
[08:55] <B_166-ER-X> but i dont know the exact command
[08:55] <Jan_> This computer claims samba is installed (smbd -V returns a version) but there is no smb command in init.d
[08:55] <B_166-ER-X> i added French support for me at my installation
[08:55] <NightLord> I installed unix printing services, and still don't work :(
[08:57] <ThePyromaniac> hey guys
[08:57] <ThePyromaniac> just wondering if anyone has managed to get their sound juicer ripping past 11%
[08:57] <pedro_> wenas
[08:57] <pedro_> alguien sabe como se formatea linux??
[08:58] <pedro_> ALGUIEN SABE COMO SE FORMATEA LINUX ?????
[08:58] <NightLord> no hablar espanol
[08:58] <ColonelKernel> pedro's gf is a pedrophile
[08:58] <ompaul> !es
[08:58] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:58] <NightLord> colonelkernel como pene
[08:59] <NightLord> :P
[08:59] <juhan> NightLord, do you know what could be wrong if the language doesn't change?
[08:59] <ben2004uk> does anyone know if the RS480-M board works with ubuntu?????
[08:59] <ompaul> NightLord, system - administration - printing
[08:59] <christian-> when my cdrom is listed in /media/cdrom0/ - does that 'count' as mounted ?
[09:00] <ompaul> !conduct
[09:00] <ubotu> hmm... conduct is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/document_view
[09:00] <ben2004uk> i have a ECS K8 Board and ubuntu wont install
[09:00] <darkheart> christian- No...
[09:00] <NightLord> hmm, not to sure
[09:00] <NightLord> sorry
[09:00] <ben2004uk> ive posted on the forum but no replies :'(
[09:00] <jstrubberg> NightLord, what's the printer model again?
[09:00] <christian-> Or do I need to do something like mount /media/cdrom0/ /mnt/cd ?
[09:00] <ben2004uk> please help!!
[09:00] <Buddha|> How do I set up my computer to boot to a console, instead of GDM?
[09:00] <NightLord> sounds like a gnome problem
[09:00] <darkheart> christian- That's just a directory used as a mount point.
[09:00] <NightLord> canon i-250
[09:00] <ben2004uk> forum username is ben2005uk
[09:00] <ben2004uk> PLEASE
[09:00] <darkheart> christian- If you type 'mount' and your cd-rom is listed, then it's mounted.
[09:01] <darkheart> christian- Yeah
[09:01] <ompaul> ben2004uk, that goes to a mailing list with lots of people on it, so if you got the url of the forum post, and pasted that here then people could look at it and see if they know anything that might help
[09:02] <christian-> darkheart, thank you
[09:02] <_native_> anyone else having no hardware acceleration on nividia 420 Go
[09:02] <eddan> I've just installed breezy and suddenly all my mp3 files are displayed in both rhythmbox and totem to be from 15 to 30 seconds. If I play them they continue playing beyond the reported secs. Also, rhythmbox doesn't read mp3 tags. I've tried installing variuos gstreamer and mp3 libs without luck.. Any ideas?
[09:03] <Darknight> eddan, gstreamer lame?
[09:03] <delp> can you make each workspace have a different background?
[09:03] <darkheart> christian- np
[09:03] <nalioth> delp: see g|patrick in #kubuntu-offtopic re desktop wallpapers
[09:03] <Darknight> delp, yes, im curious about it too
[09:04] <eddan> Darknight: Is it in any of the ubuntu reps? universe or whatever they're called?
[09:04] <eddan> Darknight: I've enabled the community maintained reps in synaptic..
[09:04] <Darknight> eddan, yes, i downloaded it from there
[09:04] <i3dmaster> how to change backspace to a backward deleting instead of forward deleting?
[09:04] <i3dmaster> in vi.
[09:05] <Darknight> eddan, so u shoud have lame for download i think
[09:05] <delp> thank you nailoth
[09:05] <Darknight> anybody know how to turn on tv card here in ubuntu?
[09:05] <_native_> im using breezy i have no hardware accel. on my nvidia geforce 420 Go, if this is a common thing could someone point me to the fix.
[09:05] <Buddha|> How do I set up my computer to boot to a console when I turn it on?
[09:06] <crimsun> Buddha|, search the wiki for instructions on disabling gdm
[09:06] <_jason> _native_:  have you installed the nvidia drivers?
[09:06] <boxman> _native_, i am new to ubuntu myself, but did you download the nvidia-glx driver using apt?? and did you also change the driver in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[09:06] <Darknight> _native_, did u downloaded nvidia-glx driver?
[09:06] <crimsun> _native_, have you followed wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto?
[09:06] <boxman> that is what i did atleast..
[09:06] <cute_bettong> it's saveing it as a php file called modules.php
[09:06] <cute_bettong> thats a weard file for enimey terrirory
[09:07] <crimsun> sigh.
[09:07] <_jason> !tell _native_ about nvidia
[09:08] <eddan> Darknight: A search for "lame" doesn't seem to list packages that could work.. There is a "glame", but that doesn't seem to be "lame".
[09:08] <Darknight> eddan, gstreamer lame
[09:08] <deFrysk> !info lame
[09:08] <ubotu> lame: (LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder), section multiverse/sound, is optional. Version: 3.96.1-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 222 kB, Installed size: 620 kB
[09:08] <Darknight> or geastreamer-lame
[09:08] <Darknight> i have it in breezy
[09:09] <Darknight> !info tv
[09:09] <juliaintenn> i have totem and mplayer installed, and would like the mplayer mozilla plugin to load when viewing quicktime rather than totem -- how can i switch it?
[09:09] <NightLord> damnit, still doesn't work :(
[09:10] <FaeWolfe> I am having trouble "reinstalling" ubuntu..............installation freezes during the formatting
[09:10] <d33p> just installed ubuntu hoary, but it didn't asked me what my root password is... which one is it to keep installing software?
[09:11] <ThePyromaniac> FaeWolfe: You trying to reinstall as Breezy?
[09:11] <deFrysk> !tell d33p about sudo
[09:11] <FaeWolfe> ThePyromaniac......trying to reinstall Hoary.I don't have the breezy cd yet
[09:11] <Darknight> !info bttv
[09:12] <daejavu> need some help with Synaptic ! how do i install  kernel headers ?
[09:12] <crimsun> daejavu, install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[09:12] <crimsun> daejavu, it's probably easier if you open a Terminal and use sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[09:12] <daejavu> i checked but installed headers are not as that of the current kernel as uname tells
[09:13] <d33p> there is no azureus package in ubuntu?
[09:13] <marcin_ant> hi all
[09:13] <marcin_ant> I got a problem with fontconfig
[09:13] <crimsun> d33p, no, download it from their Web site.
[09:13] <deFrysk> !info azureus
[09:13] <d33p> crimsun, ok
[09:13] <marcin_ant> I want to enable bitmap fonts on breezy
[09:13] <funkyHat> ~info azureus
[09:13] <eddan> Darknight: Weird, I can't find it.. I've enabled all the binary universe reps that appeared after I clicked the "show disabled software...". Also added backport rep.. If I scroll down to gstreamer-* there is no -lame, just a lot of others :)
[09:13] <marcin_ant> but dpkg-fontconfig reconfigure doesn't work
[09:13] <ThePyromaniac> FaeWolfe: then I dont know, what happened with me was installation froze on final stage of installation. so i installed kubuntu, then downloaded the ubuntu-desktop packages and removed KDE ^^
[09:14] <crimsun> marcin_ant, dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig?
[09:14] <crimsun> marcin_ant, or was that just a slip-up?
[09:14] <daejavu> crimsun, it says couldnt find package :S
[09:14] <FaeWolfe>  ThePyromaniac....thanks
[09:14] <deFrysk> ThePyromaniac, sounds like a bad cd
[09:14] <marcin_ant> crimsun, hmm what is slip-up?
[09:14] <Darknight> how i can configure my hardware (tv card for example)?
[09:14] <crimsun> marcin_ant, you typo'd
[09:14] <ThePyromaniac> deFrysk: nope, i had a bad cd so i reburned it. the cd chekcer said it was fine
[09:14] <FaeWolfe> deFrysk.would a bad cd cause it to freeze at partitioning?
[09:15] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > hi guys
[09:15] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > i have to ask you a thing
[09:15] <crimsun> daejavu, it's in the main repository. Do you have that enabled?
[09:15] <deFrysk> FaeWolfe, a bad cd can freeze at any point I think
[09:15] <marcin_ant> crimsun, anyway - I know about dpkg-reconfigure - but still no bitmap fonts in gnome
[09:15] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > isn't it possible to link a combination of keys to show the kde desktop?
[09:15] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > like WIN+D in windows..
[09:15] <FaeWolfe> deFrysk...ok ty      will try another cd lol
[09:15] <daejavu> crimsun, i updated the repositories from ubuntuguide.org and have all of the enabled
[09:15] <marcin_ant> crimsun, so I need to get why it doesn't work
[09:15] <nalioth> Tallia1[UbuntU] : have you tried "win-m" ?
[09:16] <crimsun> daejavu, apt-cache policy linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[09:16] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > nothing happens
[09:16] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > hi nalioth
[09:16] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > you're always here
[09:16] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > :P
[09:16] <nalioth> Tallia1[UbuntU] : i'm chained to my desk
[09:17] <ThePyromaniac> great, LimeWire doesnt like blackdown java and Gtk-Gnutella doesnt ever actuallty download anything. Anyone know a good p2p system?
[09:17] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > nalioth: ??
[09:17] <nalioth> ThePyromaniac: bittorrent?
[09:17] <NightLord> again:
[09:17] <atripathi> hello everyone
[09:17] <nalioth> Tallia1[UbuntU] : i never leave here because i love all of you so much
[09:17] <NightLord> what do i have to do to get xvidtune to save my settings?
[09:17] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > ahha
[09:18] <crimsun> I sure don't love these clonebots, though.
[09:18] <Earthen> I installed Ati drivers and now my media players will not work?
[09:18] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > you're funny
[09:18] <daejavu> crimsun, the backport repositories are not working .. i think they are causing the probem
[09:18] <crimsun> daejavu, I recommend you avoid backports unless absolutely necessary.
[09:18] <deFrysk> daejavu, backports ARE a problem
[09:18] <crimsun> it's far better to just run the devel branch if you want updated software
[09:18] <atripathi> How can I change the resolution of desktop in v5.04 ?
[09:18] <blekos> hello pple
[09:19] <daejavu> welll do u know where can i add more repos from other then ubuntuguide ?
[09:19] <ThePyromaniac> nalioth: where can i get downloadable ogg vorbis files if using bittorrent? lol
[09:19] <nalioth> daejavu: dont use them regularly
[09:19] <ThePyromaniac> of course i already own the CD's so doing nothing illegal... ;)
[09:19] <nalioth> ubotu: tell atripathi about fixres
[09:19] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > nalioth: where did you set that configuration?
[09:19] <daejavu> Naaa .. i just enabled emm to c if they were had what i wanted :D
[09:20] <nalioth> Tallia1[UbuntU] : what config is that?
[09:20] <blekos> do u know what this means?W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages)
[09:20] <blekos> etc etc
[09:20] <blekos> i get it from the update manager
[09:20] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > config to link the keys combination to the show kde desktop
[09:20] <dravine_> hello everyone
[09:21] <nalioth> Tallia1[UbuntU] : most of the windows + keys are set in kubuntu already
[09:21] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > nalioth: look begore
[09:21] <dravine_> Does anyone know what in ubuntu is automatically bringing up/down ethernet interfaces?
[09:21] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > i know
[09:21] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > but i didn't find
[09:21] <dravine_> and how to stop it from doing so?
[09:21] <nalioth> Tallia1[UbuntU] : and you should aks in #kubuntu
[09:21] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > eheh
[09:21] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > ok
[09:21] <deFrysk> blekos, post your sources.list in pastebin
[09:22] <crimsun> marcin_ant, have you read http://lists.freedesktop.org/pipermail/fontconfig/2005-January/001109.html?
[09:22] <blekos> deFrysk, could u pls explain how to do that?
[09:22] <Darknight> do you have guys error when installing msttcorefonts in breezy?
[09:23] <deFrysk> blekos, cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:23] <dravine_> My problem is that I frequently change my IP address when setting up routers and access points and such
[09:23] <Earthen> how do i get ubot to tell me about ati
[09:23] <dravine_> and it takes ubuntu around 40 seconds to make each change
[09:23] <deFrysk> blekos, copy the output in http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:23] <eddan> Darknight: Just installed it, no problem..
[09:23] <deFrysk> blekos, and give us the url alfter posting it
[09:23] <dravine_> if I change an AP from  a 192 addy to a 10., I loose my eth0 connection when the AP reboots, and it takes ages to get it to switch back over
[09:24] <LasseL> !ati
[09:24] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[09:24] <dravine_> also, ifconfig will show no IP addy for eth0, ifup says it's already up, and ifdown says SIOCTL error or soemthing
[09:24] <dravine_> er
[09:24] <dravine_> SIOCDELRT no such process rather
[09:25] <nalioth> crimsun: you are gonna have carpal tunnel doing that
[09:25] <crimsun> thank goodness for the up arrow
[09:25] <crimsun> :)
[09:25] <dravine_> any ideas?
[09:26] <blekos> ok here is the url:
[09:26] <blekos> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2671
[09:26] <eddan> Anyone know where I could get mplayer? Don't seem to find it in official or the community maintained reps. I'm running breezy
[09:26] <crimsun> eddan, it's in multiverse
[09:26] <NSK> http://freshmeat.net/projects/mplayer/
[09:27] <deFrysk> blekos, the last line can be removed , thats the double entry
[09:27] <rob_p> dravine_:  Would simply restarting the network be what you are looking for? (sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart)
[09:27] <blekos> i c
[09:27] <dravine_> rob_p, no
[09:27] <blekos> i'' remove it
[09:27] <dravine_> the problem is that the network does it's own thing
[09:27] <blekos> i also get this
[09:27] <blekos> rchive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages)
[09:27] <blekos> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_restricted_binary-i386_Packages)
[09:27] <blekos> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages)
[09:27] <blekos> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages)
[09:28] <dravine_> if I reboot the AP I am configuring, I loose my connection
[09:28] <dravine_> which hoses the config on the AP
[09:28] <deFrysk> blekos, did you remove that last line ?
[09:28] <dravine_> hard to explain why I need it to stop
[09:28] <blekos> not yet
[09:28] <dravine_> but I need it to not automatically do stuff with eth0
[09:28] <blueyed> Can somebody help me with networking issues? I'm on pppoe and since breezy this causes me to use pppoeconf after each reboot/startup. I've filed this bug report in the early days of breezy, but it still causes problems after a recent dist-upgrade:http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10240
[09:28] <deFrysk> blekos, then do that , thats the fix
[09:28] <dravine_> and not take 40 seconds to save a change to the ip addy
[09:28] <blekos> i was getting this along with the previous message
[09:28] <blekos> ok deFrysk
[09:29] <deFrysk> blekos, and never paste in the chat again (flooding)
[09:29] <Buddha|> crimsun - I've looked, but I can't find anything
[09:29] <blekos> oh apologies for flooding
[09:29] <crimsun> Buddha|, anything for...?
[09:29] <blekos> i'll use the pastebin :)
[09:29] <deFrysk> blekos, better ;)
[09:29] <Buddha|> crimsun - sorry.  booting to the console.
[09:30] <redlounge> hi. anyone knows a good software to backup my home folder (exact copy, no archiv or anything like this). i am using rsync right knwo but have some problems...
[09:30] <eddan> So how do I add this "multiverse". I've got this line in sources: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted. Is this it? Can't seem to find all the packages people say are in multiverse..
[09:30] <Dark_Sith> hello people
[09:31] <crimsun> Buddha|, heh. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=64116
[09:31] <nalioth> blekos: pleae dont paste in here
[09:31] <crimsun> !tell eddan about repos
[09:31] <blekos> yes i was warned by deFrysk
[09:31] <blekos> wont happen again nalioth, dont worry
[09:31] <dravine_> man, this darned networking thing is really getting me irked
[09:32] <dravine_> it looks like laptop-net and hotplug are both trying to auto ifup/ifdown the eth0
[09:32] <dravine_> the end result is something aking to the special olympics
[09:32] <d33p> when I try to share a folder with nautilus it tells me that samba isn't installed but it is, how do I fix this?
[09:33] <ben2004uk> www.apress.com/free/content/ Dissecting_A_CSharp_Application.pdf
[09:33] <LasseL> d33p, I don't know .. but maybe  you could run nautilus as root?
[09:34] <d33p> LasseL, how do I run nautilus as root?
[09:34] <ben2004uk> i havent had chance to read it yet
[09:34] <LasseL> d33p, sudo nautilus --browser
[09:34] <ben2004uk> but it seems a nice idea
[09:34] <dravine_> don't run nautilus as root
[09:34] <Anak1n> can xine play real media files?
[09:35] <dravine_> go to ubuntuguide.org and read the howto share files easily
[09:35] <d33p> doesn't work running nautilus as root
[09:35] <dravine_> d33p, ^
[09:35] <Anak1n> !xine
[09:35] <ubotu> Anak1n: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[09:35] <dravine_> see above
[09:35] <_stefan> yow, I've installed gstreamer but can't hear any music
[09:35] <_stefan> in amarok
[09:35] <blekos> if i use the remove cmd to remove totem, will remove only the application or it will remove it's dependencies as well?
[09:35] <_stefan> someone who knows?
[09:35] <crimsun> _stefan, try another engine, like amarok-xine
[09:36] <crimsun> _stefan, make sure you select it in Preferences>Engine
[09:36] <d33p> how do I install the video decoders? they are not open source so ubuntu doesn't come with them
[09:36] <dravine_> d33p, ubuntuguide.org
[09:36] <dravine_> damn
[09:36] <_stefan> crimsun -> yes it is selected
[09:36] <dravine_> it's all right there
[09:36] <comforteagle> can I upgrade to breezy from warty from the command line?
[09:36] <dravine_> every question you've asked is covered
[09:37] <smokie> HiddenFly, i installed from cd. How can i make ubuntu to forget the cd and always download pkgs from the net ?
[09:37] <crimsun> comforteagle, yes
[09:37] <_stefan> libamarok_gstengine_plugin
[09:37] <blekos> d33p, use VLC just intsall it
[09:37] <blekos> it will do the job for u
[09:37] <deFrysk> smokie, comment the cdline in sources.list
[09:37] <d33p> blekos, ok
[09:37] <deFrysk> smokie, its the first line i believe
[09:37] <cta22> oi
[09:37] <smokie> deFrysk, in /etc ?
[09:37] <Anak1n> ????
[09:37] <crimsun> _stefan, is amarok blocking on the sound device?
[09:38] <deFrysk> smokie, /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:38] <smokie> deFrysk, thx, ill try
[09:38] <dravine_> d33p, http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs <= windows codecs
[09:38] <cta22> eu gostaria de saber mais godigos do linux quem pode me ensinar
[09:38] <boxman> smokie, remember to do a apt-get update afterwards
[09:38] <kevogod> Shouldn't the Login Photo avatar be tied to the About Me avatar?
[09:38] <dravine_> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories <= repositories that have the win32 codecs
[09:38] <marcin_ant> crimsun, well it is a kind of explanation
[09:39] <kevogod> !ubuntuguide
[09:39] <ubotu> it has been said that ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[09:39] <marcin_ant> crimsun, but not in 100% because I cannot see _any_ bitmap font in my gnome font selector
[09:39] <kevogod> !faq
[09:39] <ubotu> I guess faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/
[09:39] <Anak1n> !xine
[09:39] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, Anak1n
[09:39] <deFrysk> !info gxine
[09:39] <ubotu> gxine: (the xine video player, GTK+/Gnome user interface), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.4.1-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 240 kB, Installed size: 624 kB
[09:39] <dravine_> ubotu, the only thing really bad in ubuntu guide is that the backports repository just got moved to official ubuntu servers
[09:39] <ubotu> dravine_: that's too long
[09:39] <smokie> deFrysk, works nice. Do you know how i can search the pkg list (all pakgs containing "courier" for ex. ?
[09:39] <dravine_> it does need an ubtate true
[09:40] <Answer> How can I take a command line screenshot of display zero over ssh ?
[09:40] <dravine_> ubotu, what's too long?
[09:40] <ubotu> Not a clue, dravine_
[09:40] <kevogod> dravine_, ubotu is a bot.
[09:40] <deFrysk> smokie, apt-cache search courier
[09:40] <dravine_> oh
[09:40] <kevogod> lmao
[09:40] <marcin_ant> crimsun, and especially I cannot see Fixed font which has latin-1 encoding
[09:40] <d33p> blekos, what is the vlc package? or do I have to install it from the web?
[09:40] <digitize> apt-get install vlc?
[09:40] <dravine_> apt-get install vlc
[09:41] <deFrysk> sudo
[09:41] <deFrysk> ;p
[09:41] <dravine_> d33p, go read www.ubuntuguide.org
[09:41] <snorks> hi
[09:41] <Answer> How can I take a command line screenshot of display zero over ssh ?
[09:41] <dravine_> some stuff is wrong, but you really need a clue
[09:41] <dravine_> is this zero day on linux for you or something dude?
[09:41] <deFrysk> dravine_, ever checked the wiki ?
[09:41] <kevogod> !faq
[09:41] <ubotu> rumour has it, faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/
[09:41] <kevogod> ^^
[09:41] <blekos> i think it's also available in the package manager, mayb u hava to choose the other depos. as well
[09:41] <smokie> boxman, what dows apt-get update do ? renew the list of all availabel pkgs ?
[09:41] <boxman> smokie, yes
[09:41] <dravine_> deFrysk, digging through it right now
[09:42] <snorks> how come I can't sudo? I'm sitting on a fresh breezy install. trying to add info to /etc/hosts, but i dont have write permissions, hence why i want to sudo, which doesnt work
[09:42] <Anak1n> !ubotu
[09:42] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:42] <deFrysk> dravine_, read the w32codecs bit , its there ;)
[09:42] <dravine_> wtf?
[09:42] <dravine_> I have
[09:42] <Answer> How can I take a command line screenshot of display zero over ssh ?
[09:42] <dravine_> that's not the question I had
[09:42] <dravine_> that's d33ps issue
[09:42] <Anak1n> !add
[09:42] <ubotu> methinks add is To add an item to me, type "ubotu <keyword> is <description description description>", without the carets
[09:42] <deFrysk> dravine_, but u sent him to ubuntuguide
[09:42] <dravine_> I told d33p to go read it
[09:42] <Answer> !tell Anak1n about msg
[09:42] <dravine_> yeah I did
[09:42] <deFrysk> dravine_, wrong place
[09:42] <comforteagle> are there any hosting providers using ubutu???
[09:42] <rioki> good eavning, or what ever your time is
[09:43] <dravine_> how is it the wrong place?
[09:43] <dravine_> it's covered in the guide
[09:43] <nalioths_dog> ubuntuguide is evil
[09:43] <Anak1n> :s
[09:43] <deFrysk> ist not safe to send peole to ubuntuguide
[09:43] <Answer> Anak1n, sorry that was the wrong page.  but you can  /msg ubotu   if you want to play with the bot
[09:43] <Anak1n> what I did?
[09:43] <nalioths_dog> comforteagle, most hosting companies use bsd
[09:43] <Answer> I forget what the right command is
[09:43] <kevogod> !tell <
[09:43] <Anak1n> I don't want to play can i download ubotu and put it on irc?
[09:43] <comforteagle> nalioth, well, I mean somewhere I could lease a server
[09:44] <nalioth> Anak1n: get your own blootbot
[09:44] <Answer> !tell Anak1n about ubotu
[09:44] <comforteagle> nalioth, I'm not near any colos
[09:44] <nalioth> comforteagle: i'm not following you
[09:44] <dravine_> deFrysk, search for w32codecs in the wiki returns 0 results
[09:44] <comforteagle> I'd like to lease a dedicated ubuntu server.
[09:44] <dravine_> which is odd since that's the package name in apt
[09:44] <deFrysk> dravine_, try restricted formats
[09:44] <nalioth> comforteagle: i dont think there are such things, but i'm sure you could specify it
[09:44] <Answer> comforteagle: what is the problem you are attempting to solve?
[09:44] <comforteagle> Like severbeach, but they only use debian or RH
[09:45] <rioki> I have seen that the new release is (almost) there. say, do you need to do it over the CD, or can you kick it in with say, apt-get ?
[09:45] <pluffsy> what jabber server do you people use? I'm using jabber.com and it has downtime like EVERY day, works really bad.
[09:45] <dravine_> deFrysk, it's rather unintuitive to not include the common name of the package in there
[09:45] <smokie> boxman, i thought apt-get update can be used to update to the latest version and security updates. whats the command for this ?
[09:45] <deFrysk> dravine_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:45] <Answer> !tell dravine_ about RestrictedFormats
[09:45] <deFrysk> dravine_, read Codecs and DVD-Video
[09:45] <boxman> smokie, that is upgrade or dist-upgrade
[09:46] <dravine_> why? I don't have any problems with dvd or codecs
[09:46] <narg> So, somehow grub got an error 17, so I want to reinstall it, but windows is on /dev/hda1 atm, so knoppix doesnt want to do it with grub-install. Any suggestions?
[09:46] <deFrysk> cos it has explanation about w32codecs dravine_
[09:46] <boxman> update only renews the apt archives
[09:46] <janne_Newbie> hi! i have some problem...
[09:46] <boxman> so if you change something in the apt file, then it is a good idea to do a update
[09:46] <smokie> boxman, dist for the next release and upgrade for security patches ?
[09:46] <Anak1n> ok ther is no need for that behavior
[09:46] <eruin> anyone else having issues with totem in breezy? I get a segfault :o
[09:47] <boxman> smokie, there is a difference, but i am not 100% sure about dist-upgrade vs upgrade
[09:47] <janne_Newbie> how i can put ubuntu cd in repository list again...?
[09:47] <boxman> i usually use dist-upgrade to update all the packages
[09:47] <Answer> eruin: totem isn't used for anything productive, is it
[09:47] <blekos> hmm not many pple like totem
[09:47] <dravine_> wow,
[09:47] <boxman> upgrade all the packages*
[09:47] <dravine_> it may be illegal in your country
[09:47] <nalioths_dog> janne_Newbie, apt-cdrom
[09:47] <blekos> have u tried anyone else?
[09:47] <dravine_> still, a search for w32codecs in the wiki should show that page
[09:47] <janne_Newbie> i just removed it...and when i try to put it back it give some errors...
[09:47] <snorks> I need to edit /etc/hosts, but I do not have write permission, and sudo doesn't work! Not even sudo -s -H
[09:47] <dravine_> doesn't make sense for it not to
[09:47] <janne_Newbie> apt-cdrom?
[09:48] <eruin> Answer, oh yes
[09:48] <janne_Newbie> ill try...
[09:48] <nalioth> janne_Newbie: yes, run that
[09:48] <nalioth> who wants w32codecs?
[09:48] <mazatl> Im tryint apt-get install java
[09:48] <mazatl> but it says not found
[09:48] <mazatl> how do I install java?
[09:48] <rioki> the difference is only if they are flaged aproptiatly for a dist-upgrade
[09:48] <coobra> google :P
[09:48] <mazatl> I looked on ubuntuguide.org and their directions do not work
[09:48] <Anak1n> !java
[09:48] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, java is to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[09:48] <rioki> in debian this is an issue
[09:48] <mazatl> fuck you coobra
[09:48] <DarthFrog> Is there a FAQ/Guide to upgrading Hoary to Breezy?
[09:48] <mazatl> shut up with that shit
[09:48] <nalioth> DarthFrog: read the /topic
[09:48] <rioki> it will not update a kernel, for example with only upgrade
[09:48] <nalioth> mazatl: language please
[09:48] <deFrysk> nalioth, its about what place to send people to for w32codec explenation
[09:49] <kevogod> mazatl, That is because ubuntuguide.org is not safe to use.
[09:49] <snorks> I need to edit /etc/hosts, but I do not have write permission, and sudo doesn't work! Not even sudo -s -H
[09:49] <blueyed> Can somebody help me with networking issues? I'm on pppoe and since breezy this causes me to use pppoeconf after each reboot/startup. I've filed this bug report in the early days of breezy, but it still causes problems after a recent dist-upgrade: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10240
[09:49] <BooZee> what is the diffrence between ubuntu and debian ?
[09:49] <DarthFrog> nalioth: Thanks! :-)  It went by so fast, I didn't notice it.
[09:49] <deFrysk> nalioth, it seems a bit hard to find in the wiki
[09:49] <Answer> dravine_, deFrysk:  just do a text search instead of a title search for w32codecs and it will show you many useful pages on RestrictedFormats
[09:49] <rioki> ub is repackaged... with better hw suport
[09:49] <dravine_> I'm not really concerned with the codecs
[09:49] <dravine_> they work fine for me
[09:50] <deFrysk> Answer, its not me who is having probs with finding it
[09:50] <dravine_> what does not work fine is the lame ass autohosing of the ethernet connection
[09:50] <kevogod> Is Sun Java in Hoary repositories anymore?
[09:50] <BooZee> rioki: but i'm actually running debian (now - after the installation is finished?
[09:50] <Answer> It is very easy to find.  Just search for text instead of titles.
[09:50] <snorks> stig@ubuntu:/etc$ sudo -s -H
[09:50] <snorks> sudo: unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()
[09:50] <dravine_> and the 40 seconds it takes to change the damned IP addy
[09:50] <nalioth> kevogod: no
[09:50] <kevogod> nalioth, OK, just checking
[09:50] <snorks> I need to find out how to do stuff as root. It WONT let me, omg
[09:50] <nalioth> snorks: common problem
[09:50] <rioki> boozee what did you install?
[09:50] <deFrysk> kevogod, in the wiki is a good howto for installing java
[09:50] <snorks> nalioth, do you know how to fix_
[09:50] <janne_Newbie> thanks very much....u r jewellery.....nalioth
[09:50] <Answer> dravine_:  Sounds like your network is slow.
[09:50] <rioki> well ub "builds" on debian
[09:50] <BooZee> rioki: ubuntu...
[09:51] <nalioth> snorks: join #kubuntu-offtopic
[09:51] <dravine_> Answer, has nothing to do with the network
[09:51] <kevogod> deFrysk, I do not need to install Java.
[09:51] <dravine_> it's a static IP addy
[09:51] <james> how do I set the radio state in my wireless card from 2 to 0?
[09:51] <rioki> well there is not to big difference
[09:51] <janne_Newbie> keep up good work nalioth...soon my Finnish Ubuntu pages r finished...
[09:51] <dravine_> the issue is the laptop-net or hotplug script that's trying to do the ifup/ifdown on it's own
[09:51] <rioki> onyl that they repackaged packages ...
[09:52] <janne_Newbie> So we hopely get more users to ubuntu...
[09:52] <DarthFrog> nalioth: That URL in the topic about upgrading to Breezy actually has  nothing to do with it - it tells you how to get a CD image.
[09:52] <Anak1n> what about ubuntu and skype?
[09:52] <janne_Newbie> bye..!
[09:52] <DarthFrog> nalioth: Never mind. :-)
[09:52] <DarthFrog> <hangs head in shame at loading the wrong URL> :-)
[09:52] <BooZee> rioki: so if I need help, i can get it in debian chat rooms and forums too, right?
[09:52] <Answer> dravine_: To be clear, the issue is your own inexperience with configuring the default network values.
[09:52] <deFrysk> hehe DarthFrog
[09:53] <rioki> dependy, but in many casses yes
[09:53] <nalioth> DarthFrog: /msg ubotu upgrade2breezy
[09:53] <dravine_> Answer, the issue is that I can't find where to disable the auto config stuff
[09:53] <rioki> BooZee the thing is that like debian they folow the policy to leve stuff as it should be...
[09:53] <dravine_> I think hotplug and laptop-net are stepping on each others toes
[09:54] <DarthFrog> nalioth: Sorry, I loaded the wrong URL. :-)
[09:54] <Answer> dravine_: Why are you running them at all?
[09:54] <rioki> (BooZee) not hack it together to work with say YaSt...
[09:54] <dravine_> Answer, I didn't install them
[09:54] <dravine_> I think it was just installed by default
[09:54] <BooZee> rioki: what is yast?
[09:54] <dravine_> or perhaps got installed with laptop-tools
[09:54] <deFrysk> yet another system tool
[09:54] <rioki> Yet an other Setup toll ... SuSe main config program
[09:54] <dravine_> laptop-mode-tools rather
[09:55] <deFrysk> yast is the ruler and master of suse and it s*ks
[09:55] <Answer> dravine_: Ok, and you want to configure laptop-mode-tools to do what?
[09:55] <johnny06> hi i am having a hard time installing w32codecs,can anybody give me a repo to add please
[09:55] <daejavu> is there any other place then ubuntuguide from where i can get repositories ?
[09:55] <dravine_> I'm not doing anything with laptop-mode-tools
[09:55] <nalioth> deFrysk: trolling in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[09:55] <dravine_> I just want it to stop bringing up and down eth0 on it's own
[09:55] <nalioth> johnny06: hoary or breezy?
[09:55] <johnny06> hoary
[09:55] <_jason> !tell johnny06 about restricted
[09:55] <Answer> dravine_: Uninstall it.  I do not see any "laptop-mode-tools"
[09:55] <deFrysk> nalioth, someone asked about yast so I explained
[09:55] <nalioth> daejavu: using non ubuntu repos will kill your box
[09:56] <deFrysk> i hope that is allowed ?
[09:56] <dravine_> Answer, don't worry about it, I'll figure it out
[09:56] <mazatl> who maintains ubuntuguide.org?
[09:56] <dravine_> it's taken more time to explain it than it will to fix it
[09:56] <nalioth> johnny06: http://www.giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/
[09:56] <mazatl> all of the info never worked for me
[09:56] <nalioth> ubuntuguide is currently unmaintained
[09:56] <daejavu> nalioth, actually i can find my kernel headers  using the ones listed on ubuntuguide :S
[09:56] <nalioth> daejavu: dont get comfy with the 'guide, it'll bite you
[09:57] <daejavu> nalioth, lolz ..  well i need to headers preety badly !  any suggestions ?
[09:57] <mazatl> lolz
[09:57] <mazatl> please dont say lolz
[09:57] <mazatl> just say 'lol'
[09:57] <mazatl> no 'z' added, please
[09:58] <nalioth> daejavu: you just said the 'guide tells you how
[09:58] <daejavu> nalioth, have u  got the headers installed on ur system ? if yes then from whre u got emm :)
[09:58] <Answer> How can I take a screenshot of display zero from the command line over ssh?
[09:58] <RamzeS> hi all. in what package i can find stdio.h, conio.h,....? (sorry for my bad english)
[09:58] <BooZee> i've seen some debian terminals styled real nice: the host name was bolded in another color from the regular text. how can I do that?
[09:59] <nightswim> BooZee: search for fancy bash prompts
[09:59] <nalioth> daejavu: open synaptic and search for "kernel" find the headers for your kernel
[09:59] <nightswim> it's the PS2 variable
[09:59] <johnny06> thanks nalioth
[09:59] <smergler> hey, question, how does one add users in a new ubuntu system
[09:59] <nalioth> BooZee: ask uncle google about bashrc
[09:59] <delp> is the password for su the same as the admin login password?
[09:59] <smergler> i try adduser and useradd... but they dont seem to do what i want
[09:59] <rioki> no root on ubuntu
[10:00] <deFrysk> delp ubuntu uses sudo , not su
[10:00] <rioki> well no pwd, user sudo
[10:00] <delp> ok
[10:00] <Answer> smergler:  useradd is what you want
[10:00] <deFrysk> !tell delp about sudo
[10:00] <nalioth> smergler: system > admin > users and groups
[10:00] <daejavu> nalioth, well heres the problem ! it says the only headers installed are not matching with the kernel.so they are not installed , neither they showup in the synaptic list
[10:00] <smergler> Answer: thats in gnome though...
[10:00] <mazatl> root@xochiyotl:/home/mazatl# apt-get install j2re1.4
[10:00] <mazatl> Reading package lists... Done
[10:00] <mazatl> Building dependency tree... Done
[10:00] <mazatl> Package j2re1.4 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:00] <mazatl> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[10:00] <mazatl> is only available from another source
[10:00] <mazatl> E: Package j2re1.4 has no installation candidate
[10:00] <nalioth> hate lage
[10:01] <nalioth> lag
[10:01] <smergler> Answer: i need to do it through bash
[10:01] <Answer> smergler: useradd is a shell command.
[10:01] <mazatl> ?
[10:01] <Answer> smergler:  man useradd
[10:01] <deFrysk> mazatl, 1, please dont flood
[10:01] <nalioth> mazatl: hoary or breezy?
[10:01] <mazatl> hoary
[10:01] <mazatl> how was I flooding?
[10:01] <mazatl> I pasted some thing that happened in my terminal
[10:01] <nalioth> mazatl: http://www.giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/
[10:01] <mazatl> flooding is malicious
[10:01] <nalioth> mazatl: dont paste in here
[10:01] <_jason> !pastebin
[10:01] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:02] <deFrysk> mazatl, no more then 4 lines next time
[10:02] <nalioth> deFrysk: can you join me in #kubuntu-offtopic a minute?
[10:02] <RamzeS> in what package i can find stdio.h, conio.h,....? (sorry for my bad english)
[10:02] <Answer> pasting != flooding, but pasting is equally unappreciated here.
[10:02] <mazatl> how do I instal those debian packages?
[10:02] <mazatl> I download/install both?
[10:02] <nalioth> mazatl: they are ubuntu packages
[10:02] <nalioth> mazatl: get what you need
[10:02] <nalioth> mazatl: sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[10:02] <mazatl> cool thanks
[10:04] <RamzeS> in what package i can find stdio.h, conio.h,....???
[10:05] <maddler> RamzeS: you can use dpkg -S stdio.h
[10:05] <Answer> How can I take a screenshot of display zero from the command line over ssh?
[10:05] <carlos> hola
[10:05] <mazatl> nalioth, where can I get packages for breezy?
[10:05] <carlos> alguien de venezuela?
[10:05] <nalioth> mazatl: http://giannaros.org/tor/bt/
[10:05] <mazatl> nadien
[10:05] <nalioth> ubotu: tell carlos ex
[10:06] <nalioth> ubotu: tell carlos es
[10:06] <nalioth> ubotu: tell carlos about es
[10:07] <deFrysk> !es
[10:07] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:07] <carlos> ok!
[10:08] <jess1423> bonsoir
[10:08] <RamzeS> maddler, i want to know the name of package wich contein stdio.h, conio.h ....
[10:08] <tga> howdy jess1423
[10:08] <jess1423> moi francais vous aussi
[10:09] <tga> jess1423, #ubuntu-fr
[10:09] <B_166-ER-X> jess1423 , bonsoir, j'espere que tu parle anglais, parcque ici c'est un chan anglophone
[10:09] <asdffdas> how does one clear the wep key? is it possible to have iwconfig eth0 key open and yet have a cleared key (no key set)?
[10:09] <daejavu> how can i shut down X completely and return to terminal ?
[10:09] <tga> asdffdas, iwconfig eth1 key off
[10:09] <daejavu> it was something like init.d/blah blah
[10:09] <asdffdas> tga, but that disables wep key support, doesnt it?
[10:10] <tga> asdffdas, yeah, isn't that what you want?
[10:10] <tga> asdffdas, what's the point of WEP with no key?
[10:10] <asdffdas> daejavu: type init 0 to go to console, init 1 to go back to x
[10:10] <delp> anyone know how to have different background images on each workspace?
[10:10] <asdffdas> tga, well, i am trying to use xsupplicant to authenticate to a network that assigns a key so having one set is not good
[10:10] <tga> delp, I don't think you can do that
[10:11] <nalioth> tga: you can, but it's currently way beta
[10:11] <tga> nalioth, in Hoary?
[10:11] <maddler> RamzeS: have you tried dpkg -S ?
[10:11] <nalioth> tga: wallpapoz.sourceforge.net
[10:11] <RamzeS> maddler, yes
[10:11] <maddler> and... ?
[10:11] <tga> asdffdas, sorry, no idea about xsupplicant
[10:12] <maddler> RamzeS: what about the output? ;)
[10:12] <neoliminal> I think something odd is happening with my memory.
[10:12] <RamzeS> maddler, root@StoR ~/coding/frst # dpkg -S stdio.h
[10:12] <RamzeS> perl: /usr/lib/perl/5.8.7/CORE/nostdio.h
[10:12] <neoliminal> Mem:   1032372k total,  1019496k used,    12876k free,    30316k buffers
[10:12] <tga> nalioth, it doesn't seem to be an Ubuntu feature
[10:12] <nalioth> tga: did you see that website?
[10:13] <HiddenFly> smokie: whatch your hiligths :)
[10:13] <BooZee> well, i've googled bashrc and couldn't find explanation about the specific color and style change of the command line. only aliases and scripts...
[10:13] <asdffdas> tga, my problem seem sto be that if i turn off key xsupplicant complains that key support is off... if i turn it on it adds a key and doesnt let xsupplicant add its own
[10:13] <neoliminal> From top it looks like all my memory is being used, but top doesn't show anything using that much memory.
[10:13] <HiddenFly> *watch
[10:13] <tga> nalioth, yes, it looks like a third party thingie
[10:14] <nalioth> tga: ahem. most things in ubuntu are 3d party things
[10:14] <neoliminal> anyone?
[10:14] <neoliminal> How do I tell how physical memory is being used?
[10:15] <mazatl> System Monitor?
[10:15] <mazatl> In the system tools
[10:15] <ColonelKernel> neoliminal, type in "free"
[10:15] <neoliminal> from command line
[10:15] <neoliminal>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[10:15] <neoliminal> Mem:       1032372    1018768      13604          0      30676     425392
[10:15] <neoliminal> -/+ buffers/cache:     562700     469672
[10:15] <neoliminal> Swap:       506008          0     506008
[10:15] <gearry> can anyone tell me what the predicted release date is for breezy?
[10:15] <deFrysk> neoliminal, your flooding , dont
[10:16] <mazatl> he did 5 lines for fucks sake
[10:16] <mazatl> goddamn, everything is flooding
[10:16] <ColonelKernel> neoliminal, be sure to realize, linux uses up most of your memory
[10:16] <neoliminal> So the memory is normally this used up?
[10:16] <BooZee> so anybody can help me with some bashrc (As I was told here) styling of the command line? couldn't find the spacific help in google..
[10:16] <joh> Eh, are the madwifi driver broken now? When I insert my cardbus card, I get this message in syslog: PCI: device 0001:11:00.0 has unknown header type 11, ignoring.
[10:16] <Answer> How can I take a screenshot of display zero from the command line over ssh?
[10:16] <deFrysk> mazatl, with 500 people in the channel we have to be strict
[10:16] <nightswim> BooZee: if you google for "fancy prompt bash" you should get some tips
[10:16] <BooZee> i'll try it.
[10:17] <mazatl> are 500 people talking at the same time?
[10:17] <deFrysk> mazatl, dont argue
[10:17] <neoliminal> deFrysk:  sorry for the two extra lines
[10:17] <esac_> i just did a dist-upgrade and when "Starting laptop_mode" I got errors HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(setidle1) failed: Input/output error. basename: too few arguments. HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(setidle1) failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device.  .... are these known, should i file a bug ?
[10:17] <deFrysk> mazatl, your waisting your energy
[10:17] <davmor2> is anyone here a python hacker?
[10:17] <Answer> nightswim: How did you get your nickname underlined?
[10:17] <nightswim> Answer: I didnt?
[10:17] <tga> lol, he's special
[10:18] <Answer> lol nevermind my cursor was just not updating
[10:18] <Answer> I was like wow, how'd he do that
[10:18] <nightswim> :>
[10:18] <mazatl> are you an op deFrysk ?
[10:18] <neoliminal> ColonelKernel: How do I see how the actual memory is being used?
[10:18] <deFrysk> mazatl, do I have to be ?
[10:18] <mazatl> if youre going to impose rules of course
[10:18] <mazatl> not as normal user
[10:18] <Answer> neoliminal:  cat /proc/meminfo
[10:18] <neoliminal> would you guys shut up about my free paste already
[10:18] <test34> neoliminal, or Applications - System tools - System Monitor
[10:19] <deFrysk> mazatl, only ops are allowed to keep an eye on the rules ?
[10:19] <_jason> neoliminal:  the line that says +/- buffers/cache
[10:19] <DarthFrog> Which version of Open Office comes with Breezy?
[10:19] <mazatl> impose rules on other people and not an op? yes of course
[10:19] <neoliminal> _jason: I see it.
[10:19] <apokryphos> DarthFrog: packages.ubuntu.com
[10:19] <mazatl> irc is not a democracy, there is no "citizens arrests"
[10:19] <DarthFrog> apokryphos: Tnx.
[10:20] <Answer> mazatl: There is a mute command tho.
[10:20] <mazatl> not on ops
[10:20] <davmor2> I'm having a problem with Gmail-notify (it doesn't seem to work) yet it did a while back.
[10:20] <Answer> you can mute ops or anyone you want
[10:20] <_jason> neoliminal:  that's letting you know how much memory you have free because the cache is being used... but its cache so it cna be used if needed
[10:20] <apokryphos> Answer: no, you can only set them /ignored
[10:20] <neoliminal> ok cool
[10:20] <neoliminal> thanks _jason
[10:21] <_jason> neoliminal:  np
[10:21] <mazatl> are you guys ops on the ubuntu-es channel?
[10:21] <test34> Any better irc client for X than xchat ?
[10:21] <_stefan> thx
[10:21] <_stefan> gstreamer0.8-plugins was the answer
[10:21] <apokryphos> mazatl: /chanserv access #ubuntu-es list
[10:21] <Answer> test34: I like trillian
[10:21] <_stefan> ciao
[10:22] <test34> Answer, I will take a look at it thanks
[10:22] <Answer> test34: Most chat clients will allow you to do multiple protocols, including irc
[10:22] <Answer> How can I take a screenshot of display zero from the command line over ssh?
[10:22] <mazatl> test34 do you want a graphical irc client?
[10:23] <test34> mazatl, yes
[10:23] <davmor2> Can anyone help at all?
[10:23] <Answer> How can I take a screenshot of display zero from the command line over ssh? scrot will not allow display as a parameter, and ksnapshot you have to click Save so it's not command line
[10:24] <Chambers`> Are smb mount points not possible in latest Breezy?
[10:24] <Answer> davmor2: If it worked before you could try removing it then reinstalling it
[10:24] <Fanskapet> eh.. is ubuntu using utf8 as standard?
[10:24] <Chambers`> I thought it was mount -t smbfs //servername/sharename /mountdirectory -o username=mywindowsusername,password=mywindowspassword  but i try it and i get a wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock error
[10:24] <esac_> Fanskapet: it's probably using the default NLS which is set by the kernel
[10:24] <Fanskapet> agh
[10:24] <Chambers`> i also tried specifying vfat and got an error saying direcotry doesn't exist or something
[10:24] <Fanskapet> I can't get that damn irssi to work nice with swedish chars in both windows/putty and ubuntu/ssh!!
[10:25] <Fanskapet> it's driving me mad!
[10:25] <Answer> Chambers: So what file system type is it ?
[10:25] <Chambers`> isn't it supposed to mount as smbfs?
[10:25] <Chambers`> the filesystem on the share is fat32
[10:25] <davmor2> answer: I have a completely fresh install on and it still doesn't work.  I am wondering if a program it relies on has been updated and nolonger supports the command but I don't know anything about python or programming
[10:26] <Chambers`> but i thought samba worked differently
[10:27] <hardwareUpdate> hello
[10:27] <Answer> Chambers`: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions?highlight=%28fat32%29
[10:27] <NSK> hi
[10:27] <davmor2> hardwareUpdate: hello
[10:28] <hardwareUpdate> can I connect a windows xp to ubuntu Remote Desktop???
[10:28] <davmor2> bob2: are you awake?
[10:29] <Jan_> So let me get this straight.
[10:29] <Answer> davmor2: Is gmail-notify a synaptic package?
[10:29] <luite> is it possible to purge all configuration files for all packages that are not currently installed? and is it possible to list all installed packages with their size (not of the package file but the total size of the installed files)
[10:29] <Jan_> Let's see. / is root, /root is root, you are root when you su root, plus roots are mounted in /mnt, which may also have / or /root.
[10:29] <Jan_> How is this in any way clear.
[10:30] <Answer> Jan_: You should read an Intro to Linux/Unix webpage about root.
[10:30] <Chambers`> Answer: I'm not mounting a partition, i'm talking about a windows network share
[10:30] <hardwareUpdate> Does anybody if can I connect a windows xp to ubuntu Remote Desktop???
[10:30] <Jan_> Answer: That's where I got that from.
[10:30] <g|patrick> can someone recommend a good dvb-s player?
[10:30] <Answer> hardwareUpdate:  You could use a vnc program, like tightvnc
[10:30] <Chambers`> hardwareUpdate: yes, use a vnc viewer
[10:30] <Answer> Jan_: So do you have a specific question?
[10:30] <Jan_> wouldn't that just be an mpeg2 viewer?
[10:31] <Jan_> Answer: Yes. Why are there so many things called root?
[10:31] <davmor2> Answer: yes it is in universe I think acts like msn messenger notify,  let's you know when you have new mail.
[10:31] <mohkohn> Has anybody here used UML?
[10:31] <Answer> davmor2: In synaptic, you can try to ForceVersion to the old version if it used to work and you think the update broke
[10:31] <Jan_> I don't get why you mount every filesystem except root in /mnt, which is apparently INSIDE root.
[10:31] <snorks> Is there anyone who have an idea why I can't sudo? I can't do jack s**t
[10:32] <Answer> snorks: You have to be in the sudoers group to sudo
[10:32] <hardwareUpdate> where do i get vnc viewer?????
[10:32] <Answer> hardwareUpdate: google tightvnc
[10:32] <Chambers`> hardwareUpdate: tightvnc.org
[10:32] <snorks> Answer, it won't let me cat it, because I can't sudo
[10:32] <Chambers`> or google
[10:32] <snorks> I am the first user created
[10:32] <Answer> snorks: What are you trying to do?
[10:32] <james> hi,
[10:33] <james> how can I find out my root, su password?
[10:33] <Chambers`> Answer: any response about my samba share mount question?  I'm not mounting a partition, I am trying to mount a remote network share
[10:33] <Chousuke> james: no such thing
[10:33] <Chousuke> :)
[10:33] <davmor2> Answer: That is part of the problem I don't know weather it is a new version of gmail-notify or a program it relies on.
[10:33] <snorks> Answer, I am trying to be able to administrate my computer. I can't sudo. I can't sudo -s -H. I can't do ANYthing
[10:33] <Chousuke> !root
[10:33] <ubotu> [root]  disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[10:33] <snorks> Answer, check this out:
[10:33] <Chambers`> why can't you sudo?
[10:33] <Answer> Chambers`: In the File Manager, to go File->Connect to Server, and choose Windows Share
[10:33] <snorks> That's the problem :/
[10:33] <snorks> stig@ubuntu:/etc$ sudo
[10:33] <snorks> sudo: unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()
[10:33] <planetcall> X crashed while trying to fix resolution :(
[10:33] <Chousuke> snorks: ee
[10:33] <Chambers`> heh
[10:34] <Chambers`> that's funny
[10:34] <Answer> snorks: What are you trying to do ?
[10:34] <g|patrick> can someone recommend a good dvb-s player?
[10:34] <Chousuke> snorks: boot into single user mode.
[10:34] <james> ok :( will have to reinstall
[10:34] <snorks> Id like to initi 2
[10:34] <Chousuke> james: hmm?
[10:34] <Chousuke> james: why?
[10:34] <Chambers`> thanks Answer, i will try when i get home
[10:34] <snorks> Answer, I am trying to do anything. It won't let me do anything, because I can't sudo
[10:34] <snorks> I simply can't sudo
[10:34] <james> well i need to know the root password?
[10:35] <planetcall> I hope the resolution thing goes better in new build
[10:35] <Chousuke> james: there is none.
[10:35] <james> and you set it when installing?
[10:35] <james> oh
[10:35] <Chousuke> james: use sudo
[10:35] <Chambers`> Answer: but is there a way to mount it?  I'd like to mount that share into my home dir on each log in
[10:35] <snorks> Answer, to put it in another way, I want to edit /etc/hosts, but I don't have write permissions. Why? I can't sudo
[10:35] <Chousuke> and your own password.
[10:35] <james> right
[10:35] <james> thanks :) also which tutorial should I follow in install ATI drivers?
[10:35] <_native_> ok i enabled the nvidia driver now  my screen rez is 800x600 it should be 1024x768
[10:35] <james> ive tried the Easy Ubuntu tool but does not appear to be working
[10:36] <Chousuke> !drivers
[10:36] <ubotu> [drivers]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com//BinaryDriverHowto
[10:36] <nalioth_zZz> james: please dont use that tool
[10:36] <james> really oh?
[10:36] <nalioth_zZz> james: it has horribly scarred many user
[10:36] <snorks> Answer, any ideas?
[10:36] <james> ive already run it a couple of times, very misleading :(
[10:36] <Answer> Chambers`: Did you read the website ?
[10:36] <Answer> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions?highlight=%28fat32%29
[10:36] <_native_> i used the howto. its very incomplete and does not cover
[10:37] <gloria> why is it that when I try to go into vida guerra's web site I get signed out automaticaly before anything pop's out?? they told me you guys are the smartest ubuntu people.
[10:37] <_native_> much of anything
[10:37] <Answer> snorks: msg me
[10:37] <Chambers`> Answer: wrong info
[10:37] <snorks> You know when you hit System - Administration - Users and Groups, you are supposed to be prompted for password. Nothing happens, and the process gets killed
[10:37] <Chambers`> Answer: that talks about partitions, not network shares
[10:38] <Answer> Chamners`: Oh ok, so you want your windows fat32 share to automatically be something like /mnt/windows
[10:38] <juliux> hi has any body a ppc?
[10:38] <Chambers`> exactly
[10:38] <Chousuke> juliux: I do, but I'm not running Ubuntu on it :/
[10:38] <Chousuke> Will test it though when I get the CDs
[10:38] <juliux> Chousuke, i also but the breezy kernel did not boot
[10:39] <juliux> Chousuke, it hangs by setup_arch: enter
[10:39] <prateeks> thr ?
[10:39] <prateeks> anyone ?
[10:39] <prateeks> anyone knows how to configure VNC srver
[10:39] <juliux> Chousuke, sorry i did not read correctly
[10:39] <prateeks> anyone knows how to configure VNC server
[10:39] <cute_bettong> ok whats going on with mplayer?
[10:40] <prateeks> mplayer really sucks on ubuntu
[10:40] <cute_bettong> so what to use then?
[10:40] <ColonelKernel> prateeks, nonsense
[10:40] <cute_bettong> i'm useing breezy
[10:40] <esac_> vlc ?
[10:40] <g|patrick> good night guys: :)
[10:40] <prateeks> use vlc
[10:40] <_jason> cute_bettong:  try totem-xine, but mplayer runs fine for me
[10:40] <prateeks> ya vlc
[10:40] <g|patrick> have fun :D
[10:40] <prateeks> is better
[10:40] <esac_> good choice prateeks
[10:40] <cute_bettong> ok i'll try it
[10:41] <prateeks> thr is a problem wid framerate
[10:41] <Answer> prateeks: Download and use tightvnc.  There is sufficient online documentation for tweaking the paramenters
[10:41] <prateeks> wen u use mplayer
[10:41] <davmor2> prateeks: no but I'm sure there are some tutorials about try googling for them might be easier to follow than over the irc
[10:41] <minerva> hola
[10:41] <prateeks> ohhh
[10:41] <prateeks> what is the default port on whihc it runs ?
[10:41] <minerva> hello
[10:42] <Lars_G> Hi all.
[10:42] <Lars_G> I have an (innocent) question.
[10:43] <cute_bettong> does vlc come with the plugins it needs or do i have to get them?
[10:43] <prateeks> ya
[10:43] <prateeks> ask
[10:43] <nightswim> oh dear
[10:43] <Chambers`> comes wiht them
[10:43] <Lars_G> I've checked ubuntu's licensing but I can't find an answer to my question....
[10:43] <Chambers`> ask
[10:43] <Lars_G> Are we obligated or entitled to call Mr. Shuttleworth "Dad" ?
[10:43] <prateeks> ya comes along with teh
[10:43] <tristanmike> cute_bettong, vlc comes with it's own plugins, that's why it's fantastic :)
[10:43] <holycow> Lars_G, rofl!
[10:43] <Chousuke> Lars_G: :D
[10:43] <tristanmike> Lars_G, lol
[10:43] <cute_bettong> yea mplayer wasen't working right for me it woulden't play all .wmv and .avi files
[10:43] <_native_> nvidia drivers fussed my rezolution
[10:43] <prateeks> anyone can tell how can we play .rm files on vlc ?
[10:43] <cute_bettong> kept tellin me something wasen't right
[10:44] <Lars_G> prateeks: w32codecs might be what you're looking for.
[10:44] <_jason> cute_bettong:  did you install the w32codecs?
[10:44] <fanskapet_> sigh this is hopeless im getting tired of ubuntu.. for one thing that really should be one of the simplest to change
[10:44] <cute_bettong> yea i did
[10:44] <Lars_G> prateeks: But, there is also a realplayer for linux too....
[10:44] <cute_bettong> i installed everything includeing files from there website
[10:44] <Lars_G> fanopanic: What are you talking about?
[10:44] <Answer> RealPlayer is unnecessary and disgusting
[10:44] <Lars_G> Answer: Unnecesary yes, but not so disgusting.
[10:44] <cute_bettong> and it was still yakkin about how it shoulden't crash and that i should recompile it
[10:44] <kevogod> It is not disgusting on Linux.
[10:45] <flam> if i upgrade to breezy, can i still get the new boot-procedure with picture even if i use lilo or do i have to install grub instead?
[10:45] <Answer> If you don't hate realplayer then you haven't watch the packet traffic it sends
[10:46] <cute_bettong> could i have somehow set up mplayer wrong?
[10:46] <fanskapet_> hmm anyone else using eg. irssi on another server with swedish chars?
[10:46] <Answer> cute_bettong: Yes it is possible that you have somehow setup mplayer wrong
[10:46] <fanskapet_> when i change to utf on irssi it works with ssh in ubuntu
[10:46] <fanskapet_> but then it doesn't work in putty/windows instead
[10:46] <Lars_G> flam: In my experience it's always good to have grub anyhow.
[10:46] <cute_bettong> but i did everything through synaptic
[10:47] <cute_bettong> includeing getting the w32codeces
[10:47] <_jason> cute_bettong:  all I had to do was install the right version (-586), install the fonts package, edit the config files for esd sound, and install w32codecs... if you did all that then idk
[10:47] <Lars_G> fanskapet_: Configure your putty correctly.
[10:47] <fanskapet_> i hate utf! it's not a wide-spread standard yet.. so why use it!? *agh*
[10:47] <Answer> cute_bettong: What are you trying to do ?
[10:47] <flam> Lars_G, hm. ok.
[10:47] <Lars_G> fanskapet_: It's pretty widespread, and how will it spread if you don't use it?
[10:47] <cute_bettong> view .wmv .avi files
[10:47] <cute_bettong> some work some don't
[10:47] <GhostFreeman> Where's the Xubuntu crew at?
[10:47] <Lars_G> GhostFreeman: xubuntu? what's it?
[10:47] <kevogod> GhostFreeman, Try #xubuntu
[10:47] <Answer> I think there should be a separate channel called #ubuntu-pron for all these freakin .wmv .avi questions
[10:48] <fanskapet_> Lars_G, hummz.. compare it to how many operating systems that doesn't use utf
[10:48] <GhostFreeman> done and done
[10:48] <Lars_G> fanskapet_: For example?
[10:49] <fanskapet_> Lars_G,  say the biggest platform right now for end-users windows?
[10:49] <Lars_G> fanskapet_: Windows is consistently moving to unicode as a standard....
[10:49] <fanskapet_> even though i have not much for windows and microsoft it is the biggest widespread platform
[10:49] <Lars_G> fanskapet_: but if you hate unicode so much, why the hell do you use it?
[10:50] <Jan_> Is there some odd way ubuntu mounts CD-ROMs?
[10:50] <Jan_> My pal has an icon on the desktop for it, but /mnt appears empty
[10:50] <fanskapet_> Lars_G, that's the real problem i can't get eg. iso-8859-1 to work in ubuntu
[10:50] <kevogod> Lars_G, Xubuntu is Xfce4 version of Ubuntu.
[10:50] <_native_> BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia really needs to cover more ground. it assumes that if you follow this howto your problem will be solved, but thats not the case.
[10:50] <Lars_G> fanskapet_: Then, you need to read and learn more on Locales and character encodings.
[10:50] <davmor2> Jan_: it mount under /media not /mnt
[10:51] <Lars_G> kevogod: Thanks. Nice to hear, xfce4 is a great wm.
[10:51] <fanskapet_> i have nothing against utf-8 itself it's just that it's not wise to use this as standard when other much bigger platforms doesn't even support it.
[10:51] <cute_bettong> no i was just wondering if mplayer won't play every .avi .wmv file it encounters
[10:51] <fanskapet_> that just seems stupied if the goal for ubuntu really is to be a end-user platform
[10:51] <Anak1n> !mp-layer
[10:51] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, Anak1n
[10:51] <Recon> A makefile I have links to usr/X11R6/, which doesn't exist. What do I do?
[10:51] <Anak1n> !mplayer
[10:51] <ubotu> somebody said mplayer was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto.  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[10:51] <_native_>  xfce is in the repository now?
[10:52] <fanskapet_> Lars_G, and how would one configure putty "correctly"
[10:52] <kevogod> _native_, Are you using Breezy?
[10:52] <fanskapet_> putty doesn't support utf-8 ?
[10:52] <cute_bettong> hmmm
[10:52] <fanskapet_> or does it?
[10:52] <davmor2> Is Anyone A Python Hacker?
[10:52] <NightLord> where can i get wmv codecs for totem player
[10:52] <Lars_G> fanskapet_: I'm sure it does.
[10:52] <fanskapet_> hm maybe it does
[10:53] <nalioth_zZz> NightLord: hoary or breezy
[10:53] <cosimo321> Hello all. Just dod the Breezy update and lost the grub boot screen. I want it back. What do i do?
[10:53] <NightLord> breezy
[10:53] <nalioth_zZz> ubotu: tell NightLord about breezydeb
[10:53] <cute_bettong> i know about mplayer and stuff just wanted to know if anyone else had trouble playing common files like one .avi or .wmv will play but not the other
[10:53] <fanskapet_> still now i've succeded in trashed either my bsd character settings or ubuntu
[10:53] <fanskapet_> probably bsd
[10:53] <davmor2> NightLord: w32codecs
[10:53] <NightLord> graci
[10:54] <fabri918> ola, alguem fala portugues aqui?
[10:54] <_jason> fabri918:  sim
[10:54] <cosimo321> HOW do I get the grub boot screen back?
[10:54] <nightswim> ciao a tutti
[10:54] <NightLord> #ubuntu-it
[10:54] <cosimo321> ciao tutti
[10:54] <_jason> fabri918:  #ubuntu-pt
[10:54] <NightLord> whoops, wrong one :P
[10:55] <fabri918> blz?
[10:55] <Lars_G> fabri918: brazileiro?
[10:55] <cosimo321> anyone? Please how do I get the grub boot screen back?
[10:55] <NightLord> out of curiosity, is there a GUI for installing .debs similar to the one for install rpms in fedora?
[10:55] <fabri918> no
[10:55] <Lars_G> fabri918: #ubuntu-pt
[10:56] <davmor2> cosimo: no idea but I think all the artwork is having an overhaul
[10:56] <cosimo321> Yeah the desktop pciture has chnged
[10:56] <cosimo321> but I like that boot screen!!!
[10:56] <Lars_G> is the new one cute?
[10:56] <anatole> hi
[10:56] <Lars_G> I can't wait for Breezy! sigh
[10:56] <Jan_> why would files listed by ls be green?
[10:57] <cosimo321> They need to get a better artist to do the artwork
[10:57] <fabri918> D
[10:57] <fabri918> D
[10:57] <fabri918> D
[10:57] <fabri918> D
[10:57] <davmor2> Cosimo321: yeah but there might be another in the pipe line
[10:57] <anatole> how do i go into recovery mode?
[10:57] <obontu> can someone please gimme his repositories list?  i tried a few i found on the net but i get errors on each of them. i'm trying to install avidemux2 but i can't seem to find it on synaptic
[10:57] <JDigital> Help me with mplayer here. It's stuck at 280ms audio delay. If I change it with the + and - keys, then quit and start again the audio delay is still 280ms.
[10:58] <obontu> i'm using hoary btw
[10:58] <Lars_G> Jan_: Means they're executable.
[10:58] <fabri918> urubu, essa sala  sua?
[10:58] <_native_> yeah im using breezy, i followed the howto, nvidia driver is enabled but my rezolution is now reduced and hardware accel is still not functioning
[10:58] <JDigital> I sthere a config file or something
[10:58] <davmor2> anatole: hit escape when grub appears go into it from grub hit enter
[10:58] <vbgunz> _native_: reboot
[10:58] <_native_> i have
[10:58] <anatole> davmor2: and if i have lilo?
[10:59] <none_> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4293934.stm
[10:59] <_native_> thats when my problem occured. enabling the nvidia driver has made my screen 800x 600 it should be 1024x768
[10:59] <davmor2> anatole: same priciple as far as I know there should be something to hit to select a boot method
[10:59] <none_> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4293934.stm
[10:59] <none_> The corpses were wrapped in plastic and concealed inside statues of Christian icons, which were smashed open.
[10:59] <none_> Colombian police chief Gen Jord Alirio Varon said the four- to five-month-old foetuses could have been intended for use in Satanic rituals.
[10:59] <vbgunz> hey anyone any idea where the boot menu item has gone? the latest update seemed to remove it. Also, the latest update removed my homepage "default Ubuntu homepaqe"...
[10:59] <BooZee> how can I change my language settings?
[11:00] <anatole> thank you
[11:00] <Marxist> jdigital: killall mplayer, man mplayer
[11:00] <none_> "Foetuses found at Bogota airport
[11:00] <none_> "
[11:00] <vbgunz> BooZee: I believe you can do that from the login menu
[11:00] <BooZee> my system is localized, and I want to make it enabled
[11:00] <anatole> i messed up my sudoers list :/
[11:00] <Lars_G> anatole: Hit tab at "Lilo:" it should show a list of bootable images.
[11:00] <anatole> thanks
[11:00] <Kyral> anyone know how to compile SSL support into gFTP?
[11:00] <nessmuk> I changed a video card so it would work with a Win98 install, and now it's not recognized in my Ubuntu install. Can I edit a file to fix this, or do I need to re-install Ubuntu?
[11:00] <JDigital> Marxist: I killalled mplayer, the manpage is no help
[11:00] <BooZee> and how can I make it the default?
[11:00] <Lars_G> anatole: If you have none labeled recovery, type your normal one ad add this to the end: "single".
[11:01] <BooZee> vbgunz: how can I make it default?
[11:01] <Lars_G> anatole: So, if oyu have only "Linux" on the list. type "Linux single" and enter
[11:01] <Marxist> there is a key you can use to progress or regress the audio currently being played
[11:01] <Marxist> let me look it up for you
[11:01] <BlueEagle> boozee: When you log on click on the "Lanugage" item. Also it helped me by choosing the local locale when installing. Had some troubles with utf-8 when I didn't do that.
[11:01] <vbgunz> BooZee: not sure, I believe before you login yuo can select it... It has to be in the preference or administrative menus somewhere
[11:01] <anatole> thank you Lars_G
[11:02] <anatole> trying it right now
[11:02] <Lars_G> anatole: Np, and good luck
[11:02] <vbgunz> on breezy I believe it is System > Administration > Language Selector?
[11:02] <JDigital> Marxist: Yes, but it only goes up and down in increments of 100ms
[11:02] <JDigital> mine is 280ms
[11:02] <BlueEagle> nessmuk: Which graphics card?
[11:02] <JDigital> and it resets to 280ms when I start
[11:02] <BlueEagle> jdigital: Sound issues?
[11:02] <JDigital> Hence I can never get it to 0ms precisely
[11:03] <JDigital> mplayer issues
[11:03] <BlueEagle> jdigital: Using ESD?
[11:03] <vbgunz> where is the grub editor? It has been removed from my menu...
[11:03] <Lars_G> Breezy switched back to ESDless alsa, no?
[11:03] <obontu> how can i install avidemux? it used to be in my synaptic, but it's not there anymore
[11:03] <brenton> anyone know of a working repository that has jre1.5?
[11:03] <BlueEagle> vbgunz: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:03] <vbgunz> My default ubuntu firefox homepage has been removed... nothing replaces it
[11:03] <Marxist> jDigital: so keep hacking away at that key until you reach your desired result
[11:04] <vbgunz> BlueEagle: I know how to do that, thanks, i am looking for the grub editor... it seemed to be removed from the menu...
[11:04] <maddler> question: how do I avoid having console messed with log? tried to modify /etc/syslog.conf but nothing changed
[11:04] <BlueEagle> maddler: is ksyslogd startet at boot?
[11:05] <JDigital> Marxist: You don't understand. The smallest increment that key will do is 100ms either way. Thus I can never reach zero precisely because I'm at 280 to begin with.
[11:05] <vbgunz> BlueEagle: I guess I am asking if it has been replaced or merged into another application?
[11:05] <BlueEagle> maddler: klogd*
[11:05] <cute_bettong> !w32codec
[11:05] <ubotu> cute_bettong: I give up, what is it?
[11:05] <obontu> !w32codec
[11:05] <JDigital> If I hit the key twice I'm down to 80ms. If I hit it again I'm down to -20ms.
[11:05] <cute_bettong> !w32codeces
[11:05] <ubotu> cute_bettong: Are you on ritalin?
[11:05] <JDigital> I want 0ms but there's no "move 10ms" key.
[11:05] <BlueEagle> vbgunz: I've never seen such an editor. :/
[11:05] <Marxist> jdigital: use xine
[11:05] <Lars_G> !w32codecs
[11:05] <cute_bettong> yes actually i am
[11:05] <ubotu> I heard w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy). 64-bit? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[11:05] <BooZee> and how can I change my default desktop graphical environment? i'm currently using KDM, but logging into GNOME. How can I change back to GDM ?
[11:05] <maddler> BlueEagle: yup... but where can I confiure it?
[11:05] <Lars_G> cute_bettong: Me too
[11:05] <JDigital> Xine? What's that?
[11:05] <cute_bettong> lol
[11:06] <ubun2> :D
[11:06] <brenton> can someone tell me where i can find a list of ubuntu repositories? i think some of the ones mentioned on the ubuntuguide no longer work
[11:06] <Lars_G> JDigital: I guess you're being sarcastic?
[11:06] <BlueEagle> maddler: It shouldn't need configuring. It should take all log messages by default :/
[11:06] <JDigital> The name is familiar but I forget what. From the context I guess it's another video player.
[11:06] <obontu> i installed w32 codecs
[11:06] <JDigital> I like mplayer though
[11:06] <vbgunz> BlueEagle: It used to be under I believe ? System > Preferences > Boot *or* System > Administration > Boot... It's no longer there...
[11:06] <Marxist> its another multimedia player
[11:06] <nessmuk> blueeagle....ATI mach 64 GX
[11:06] <Lars_G> JDigital: xine is a multimedia player AND engine, pretty good.
[11:06] <obontu> i think but i still can't get totem to play my videos
[11:06] <maddler> BlueEagle: damn... it's impossible to work on the console... :|
[11:06] <obontu> can someone help please?
[11:06] <BooZee> vbgunz: and how can I change my default desktop graphical environment? i'm currently using KDM, but logging into GNOME. How can I change back to GDM ?
[11:06] <messju> hi. after upgrading to breezy firefox doesn't antialias some fonts (but most). is that a known issue?
[11:06] <Marxist> xine is almost the same thing, just better in my opinion
[11:06] <BlueEagle> vbgunz: Which version did it use to be there?
[11:07] <BlueEagle> vbgunz: Because I am in Hoary and there is no such entry. :/
[11:07] <Lars_G> Marxist: I agree, but I only use the engine, my fave frontend is kaffeine
[11:07] <_native_> I cant believe distros still dont have this taken care of. i used to compile the nvidia interface myself and get hardware accel manually but in 2005 i should'nt have to deal with this. the nvidia soulutions provided by the ubuntu wiki have only made the problem worse. now i have to fix what problems where cause by blindly trusting the information in ubuntu's documentation
[11:07] <BlueEagle> maddler: how does your /var/log/messages set for permissions?
[11:07] <BlueEagle> s/does/is/
[11:07] <vbgunz> BlueEagle: not sure... I am on Breezy.. It wassd here in Hoary but it's no longer around at all... it seems it was deliberately removed... I would like to know why...
[11:08] <maddler> BlueEagle: 640
[11:08] <ubun2> im surprised ubuntu is running fast on my 64mb of ram machine
[11:08] <BooZee> BlueEagle: and how can I change my default desktop graphical environment? i'm currently using KDM, but logging into GNOME. How can I change back to GDM ?
[11:08] <ubun2> reminds me of the beos r5/r6 days
[11:08] <maddler> BlueEagle: tried stopping *log* but still getting garbage on the console...
[11:08] <Marxist> the engine is all that matter
[11:09] <joh> Omg, I get kernel oops when using the latest madwifi driver :S
[11:09] <BlueEagle> maddler: that would be u+rw-x g+r-xr o-xrw, right?
[11:09] <ubun2> does anyone know whether i should convert ubuntu ext3 to ubuntu xfs/ubuntu reiserfs?
[11:09] <vbgunz> BooZee: sorry, I don't know how... I didn't like KDE on SUSE and it was one driving reason I decided to go with Ubuntu and Gnome... Hope you find help!
[11:09] <BlueEagle> maddler: /etc/init.d/klogd restart
[11:09] <ubun2> just for the sake of file system speed
[11:09] <maddler> BlueEagle: u+rw g+r o-rwx
[11:09] <BooZee> thanks
[11:09] <_native_> im such a sucker to think that i could just have a "just works" experiance with ubuntu.
[11:09] <davmor2> ubun2: does it work?
[11:10] <BooZee> anybody know how can I change my default desktop graphical environment? i'm currently using KDM, but logging into GNOME. How can I change back to GDM ?
[11:10] <billytwowilly> is there any way to get that screen in the install where I can resize partitions back after I finish installing?
[11:10] <ubun2> ubuntu installed REALLY fine on my machine
[11:10] <ubun2> i didn't do anything really
[11:10] <ubun2> the only thing i use is icewm because GNOME is a ram hog
[11:10] <ubun2> they need to have DENU for ubuntu rather than denu for gentoo :-)
[11:11] <Lars_G> ubun2: Try xfce4 it's wonderfull, as light as icewm, and more confortable to use
[11:11] <davmor2> ubun2: if it aint broke don't fix it the speed increase is realtively minor at the moment.
[11:11] <ubun2> Lars_G: I did, I still like icewm+fvwm
[11:11] <ubun2> thanks davmor2
[11:11] <Lars_G> ubun2: Your choice, your right.
[11:11] <Khaaaaaan> sup all
[11:12] <Khaaaaaan> Damn so Breezy has the Ubuntu logo instead of the Gnome foot now...
[11:12] <ubun2> Lars_G : this is probably the best form of linux i've ever used in my life and i would definitely keep using it.
[11:12] <siriusly> I rather like fluxbox :-)
[11:12] <ubun2> flux is really good i agree
[11:12] <Lars_G> ubun2: :D
[11:12] <ubun2> but i cant get the menus right
[11:12] <Lars_G> Flux is nice.
[11:12] <Khaaaaaan> ewww flux
[11:12] <Lars_G> But xfce is a little easier to config
[11:13] <ubun2> on a 64mb of ram machine
[11:13] <BlueEagle> maddler: does the kernel logger go down and up ok when you sudo /etc/init.d/klogd restart
[11:13] <BlueEagle> ?
[11:13] <davmor2> could someone with some python experience have a look at gmail-notify please?
[11:13] <ubun2> whatever happened to enlightenment
[11:13] <apokryphos> ubun2: taking years still to release 0.17
[11:13] <ubun2> LOL
[11:13] <maddler> BlueEagle: yes... it stopped and started...
[11:13] <Lars_G> ubun2: I know, I ran fluxbox on my old 200Mhz 32Mb ram laptop
[11:14] <apokryphos> ubun2: but still with some nice things
[11:14] <nessmuk> lars_g...are you using the new ubuntu that installs  xfce?
[11:14] <BlueEagle> khaaaaaan: I hope you intend to tell us why you think flux is ewww.
[11:14] <BlueEagle> maddler: Very peculiar.
[11:14] <Lars_G> nessmuk: Not yet, I gave to the dark side and use KDE now.
[11:14] <BlueEagle> maddler: Does anything get written to /var/log/messages?
[11:14] <ubun2> i installed pwm3, ion3, xfce4, icewm and it wasn't that difficult
[11:14] <ubun2> the ubuntu people really got this thing right this time
[11:14] <ubun2> i was using damn small linux before and it was terrible
[11:15] <ubun2> great job :D
[11:15] <Khaaaaaan> BlueEagle: Cause?!?
[11:15] <Travis|H> is the method for installing the opengl nvidia driver the same as it was in Hoary for Breezy
[11:15] <_rb_> hey ive got a usb digital camera, and its set to mass storage device. how do i mount the thing, or perhaps even find it, under ubuntu ??
[11:15] <BlueEagle> khaaaaaan: Very constructive...
[11:15] <davmor2> travis|H yes
[11:15] <JF> when i try to boot from ym live cd it starts the boot and gives me a bunch of lines of code then give me a DR-Dos console and i have no idea what to do. Any suggestions
[11:15] <brenton> can someone tell me where i can find a list of ubuntu repositories? i think some of the ones mentioned on the ubuntuguide no longer work.
[11:16] <maddler> BlueEagle: no way... can't stop having garbage...
[11:16] <Khaaaaaan> BlueEagle: Mwah ha ha ha
[11:16] <Zolty> hello room
[11:16] <Khaaaaaan> The plan is coming together now
[11:16] <juliux> has some body testet the breezy install cd on a ppc?
[11:16] <BlueEagle> khaaaaaan: It worked. You're now being ignored. :)
[11:16] <JF> has anyone here succesfully burnt an ubuntu disc using nero xpress?
[11:16] <bob832> what is the command to print a file from the terminal?
[11:16] <Khaaaaaan> NAw flux is just ugly
[11:17] <Khaaaaaan> is all
[11:17] <nessmuk> juliux....I think you have to go to the ppc sites and look for another irc channel
[11:17] <Zolty> I got a good image to burn for ubuntu using nero express
[11:17] <vbgunz> BlueEagle: I am not crazy. The boot menu item was there and it has been removed and *not* replaced as far as I can tell... Why would Ubuntu do this?
[11:17] <ubun2> Khaaaaaan : if you dont like flux try enlightenment
[11:17] <Khaaaaaan> Agreed
[11:17] <ubun2> Khaaaaaan : or xfce 4
[11:17] <Khaaaaaan> Now we are talking
[11:17] <juliux> nessmuk, do you have a link?
[11:17] <Kyral> Is it normal for Beep to spawn two instances?
[11:17] <Kyral> I mean processes?
[11:17] <nessmuk> nope...sorry
[11:17] <BlueEagle> vbgunz: I really do not know. I've never seen any util for configuring grub tbh.
[11:17] <Khaaaaaan> BlueEagle doesnt see it that way, which is cool cause that is what linux is all aboot
[11:17] <ubun2> Khaaaaaan : fvwm-crystal is REALLY beautiful
[11:17] <cute_bettong> hmm it seems that mozilla firefox won't identify to the website what type of player it has to view the media
[11:18] <cute_bettong> is there a way to make mozilla lie to websites and say that it has oh say media player 10 or something installed
[11:18] <MachineScrew> so when can we expect a new login ?
[11:18] <MachineScrew> login theme that is
[11:18] <davmor2> ubun2 Khaaaaan or you could simply upgrade to 64bit and run what the hell you like at speed
[11:18] <maddler> cute_bettong: I don't think so... not afaik at least...
[11:19] <cute_bettong> ok
[11:19] <nessmuk> how do I change the config to recognize an new video card?
[11:19] <holycow> you know what is a weird sideffect of running a debian like linux distro?
[11:19] <holycow> i now dread the thought of installing windows
[11:19] <holycow> not for moral reasons
[11:19] <cute_bettong> http://www.atomfilms.com/contentPlay/mediapref/mediaPrefForm.jsp?keyword=lord_rhymes&brand=&returnUrl=%2FcontentPlay%2Fvideo.jsp%3Fid%3Dlord_rhymes%26ratingBarExclude%3D0%26preplay%3D1%26brand%3D
[11:19] <vbgunz> BlueEagle: the boot menu item didn't exactly edit GRUB... Instead it was just a GUI for reorganizing and adding/removing startup entries to the GRUB boot menu
[11:19] <cute_bettong> see if any of you can play that file
[11:19] <holycow> but because it is so much goddamned work
[11:19] <Chousuke> holycow: You are no longer able to accept any other OS? :P
[11:19] <MachineScrew> any one know wht my usplash isn't working ?
[11:19] <cafuego_> because it takes about 4 hours?
[11:19] <davmor2> nessmuk what card
[11:20] <holycow> Chousuke, :)
[11:20] <altetz> q
[11:20] <Anak1n> mplayer said could not open/initialize audio device -> no sound what to do?
[11:20] <ubun2> holycow : I don't even think about windows when im on ubuntu
[11:20] <BlueEagle> vbgunz: Then it might have been removed for being completely (well almost) useless. :p
[11:20] <MachineScrew> use totem-xine
[11:20] <MachineScrew> lol
[11:20] <ubun2> holycow : everything just "works"
[11:20] <ubun2> holycow : except sound.. :/
[11:20] <holycow> ubun2, *nod* its is just so werid, i cannot get my self to actually install software, create accounts, polidies, it's unreal.  i never expected this
[11:21] <deflux-> Has anyone gotten vmware workstation 5 to run on breezy?
[11:21] <MachineScrew> I have deflux
[11:21] <holycow> ubun2, *nod* thats an issue sometimes yes.  I always buy mobos with supported chipsets
[11:21] <deflux-> Is there something I'm missing?
[11:21] <nessmuk> davmor2....ATI Technologies Inc 210888GX [Mach 64 GX]  (rev 03) is what lspci says
[11:21] <deflux-> Because it keeps telling me that it's not configured.
[11:21] <vbgunz> BlueEagle: I can do it from the /boot/grub/menu.lst but I liked the interface... + I am just curious as to why it was removed... It wasn't exactly useless :P
[11:21] <deflux-> But the configure part goes through just fine, but the services don't seem to start properly.
[11:21] <MachineScrew> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65638&highlight=VMware
[11:22] <ubun2> wonder if ubuntu works with xbox
[11:22] <nessmuk> davmor2....I think this would involve editing the config file in vi, which I'm not too good at....would need hand-holding
[11:22] <davmor2> nessmuk: think you install similar to nvidia but with fglx i think but if you check the wiki it should tell you
[11:22] <ubun2> i want to send a computer that doesn't look like a computer to a friend
[11:22] <Anak1n> mplayer said could not open/initialize audio device -> no sound what to do?
[11:23] <ubun2> hmm xbuntu
[11:23] <cafuego_> ubun2: How about a blank cd in a small pizza box?
[11:23] <holycow> nessmuk, use nano, you can learn it by looking at the 12 commands on the bottom of the screen
[11:23] <holycow> you only need to know 3
[11:23] <ubun2> lol @ cafuego
[11:23] <nessmuk> davmor2....got a link?
[11:23] <g|patrick> re
[11:23] <ubun2> im sending it to a country
[11:23] <g|patrick> just noticed a strange behaviour
[11:23] <nessmuk> holycow....thnx
[11:23] <ubun2> where they dont allow bringing in computers
[11:23] <ubun2> im thinking about it :/
[11:24] <MachineScrew> any one know why my usplash isn't working ?
[11:24] <g|patrick> my backspeakers are used like headphones with a crappy sound
[11:24] <brenton> will eclipse work with GNU's java bytecode interpreter?  i can't find jre1.5 in any ubuntu repository
[11:24] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: in what way is it not working?
[11:24] <g|patrick> where can i control which channel is used for this?
[11:24] <MachineScrew> apkryphos: on boot it dosn't show up
[11:24] <davmor2> nessmuk: no just apt-get install but not sure what as I use nvidia https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:24] <MachineScrew> apkryphos: looks like it trys but then gose back to the console
[11:25] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: is usplash installed; and, secondly, did you reconfigure the respective linux-modules
[11:25] <MachineScrew> apkryphos: yes
[11:25] <davmor2> nessmuk link at end of last message
[11:25] <apokryphos> linux-image
[11:25] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: yes to both of them?
[11:25] <MachineScrew> apkryphos: I just did an update and hadn't had to mess with modules
[11:26] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-`uname -r`
[11:26] <[Wiebel] > anyone here updated breezy today and noticed bootsplash aint working anymore?
[11:26] <apokryphos> [Wiebel] : nope
[11:26] <[Wiebel] > hmm oddd
[11:26] <[Wiebel] > -d
[11:27] <mohkohn> Does anyone know where I can get the package apt-get install user-mode-linux? I have multiverse and universe enabled.
[11:27] <mohkohn> Package user-mode-linux has no installation candidate
[11:27] <davmor2> Wiebel: we said this already I think the ubuntu team are doing a load of work on the graphics at the moment
[11:27] <[Wiebel] > ah ok
[11:27] <MachineScrew> apkryphos: is that it
[11:27] <[Wiebel] > i noticed the new look in gnome and gdm :)
[11:28] <blekos> i want to add firestarter to the startup menu,
[11:28] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: you can use tab for auto-completion of nicknames :)
[11:28] <[Wiebel] > firestarter?
[11:28] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: and..yup, that's it; if you reconfigured it should be fine now
[11:28] <blekos> i have added to start programs but since i do not log in as root
[11:28] <MachineScrew> I don't have a new look for gdn
[11:28] <blekos> it says not enough privil.
[11:28] <blekos> any ideas?
[11:28] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: eh?
[11:28] <blekos> firestarter=firewall
[11:28] <Anak1n> mplayer said could not open/initialize audio device -> no sound what to do?
[11:28] <apokryphos> !sound
[11:28] <ubotu> sound is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/
[11:29] <g|patrick> can someone tell me where i can control how the soundoutput channels?
[11:29] <davmor2> blekos you have to deit sudoers to allow it to start then just add it to sessions startup
[11:29] <nessmuk> davmor2....thnx
[11:29] <MachineScrew> apokryphos, is there suposed to be a new GDM theme ?
[11:29] <blekos> deit suoders??
[11:29] <davmor2> nessmk np
[11:29] <apokryphos> blekos: edit
[11:29] <cevizoglu> what's the next version of ubuntu going to be called?
[11:29] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: usplash has nothing to do with gdm, nope
[11:29] <blekos> hi apokryfos
[11:30] <MachineScrew> [Wiebel] , what new gdm theme
[11:30] <apokryphos> hi
[11:30] <davmor2> cevizoglu dapper duck as far as I know
[11:30] <eelvex> hello
[11:30] <apokryphos> dapper drake
[11:30] <[Wiebel] > MachineScrew: on boot
[11:30] <MachineScrew> oh ok
[11:30] <[Wiebel] > while loging in
[11:30] <[Wiebel] > it changed in breezy
[11:30] <MachineScrew> nevermind
[11:30] <MachineScrew> ya
[11:30] <MachineScrew> brb
[11:31] <apokryphos> cevizoglu: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=350378#post350378
[11:32] <dalamar> my psp is automounting now in breezy as read-only, how can I fix this? can I manually mount it with write permissions as well? It used to automount with read/write ...
[11:33] <snorks> !repositories
[11:33] <ubotu> repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy))
[11:33] <davmor2> blekos: edit sudoers with Your_Login         ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /root/to/firestarter
[11:34] <blekos> thnx
[11:35] <_rb_> whats the deal with camera:/ ? does that work ? I'm trying to access the contents of my usb connected digital camera.
[11:35] <MachineScrew> apokryphos, it didn't work
[11:35] <masterra_> hrmmmm
[11:35] <blekos> but if i add someone to sudoers want he be able to do anything he wants(that me)without pawssword warning?
[11:35] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: dpkg -l|grep usplash  ...gives?
[11:36] <apokryphos> blekos: only if you configure it that way
[11:36] <masterra_> anyone feel like helping me with a sound problem in breezy? In gnome.. the panel shows no sound devices.. but /dev/dsp is working fine.. catting to it i hear sound, and even alunching esd by hand gives sound, but gnome (and gnome apps) still don't think so..
[11:36] <snorks> !ati
[11:36] <ubotu> rumour has it, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[11:36] <apokryphos> blekos: you can configure sudo to provide a given user with sudo powers only to a particular application
[11:36] <MachineScrew> ii  usplash    0.1-17
[11:37] <cevizoglu> apokryphos, thx
[11:37] <snorks> Anyone with breezy here and working ATI direct rendering?
[11:37] <davmor2> blekos then edit sessions startup with sudo /root/to/firestarter
[11:37] <MachineScrew> apokryphos, ii  usplash   0.1-17
[11:37] <davmor2> nessmuk did that fix your problem?
[11:38] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: you're sure the dpk-reconfigure went ok without errors?
[11:38] <anatole> re
[11:38] <anatole> Lars_G: thank you ^_^
[11:38] <anatole> after i put myself back into admins my sound broke
[11:38] <erUSUL> hello all i have problems setting up pure-ftpd. i think i enabled virtual users right but i get 530 i can not trust you. any hints
[11:38] <erUSUL> ??
[11:38] <anatole> so i had to reinstall the driver from a howto
[11:39] <anatole> its quite strange though o_O
[11:39] <MachineScrew> apokryphos, said that it didn't find a splash image but ya no errors i thoguht the splash was for grub
[11:39] <dalamar> if i run 'mount' /media/usbdisk says 'rw' by it, but when I try and delete something or write to it it says its read only .. what gives?
[11:39] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: though I'm wondering how you have  0.1-17 when the current in the repos is  0.1-10
[11:39] <g|patrick> can someone tell me where i can control how the soundoutput channels?
[11:40] <MachineScrew> apokryphos, i use the horay-backports-staging and horay-extras-staging
[11:40] <snorks> hi
[11:40] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: disable both of those, sudo aptitude remove usplash, then sudo aptitude install usplash
[11:40] <erUSUL> hello all i have problems setting up pure-ftpd. i think i enabled virtual users right but i get 530 i can not trust you. any hints ??
[11:41] <davmor2> dalamar: it might be the file itself that is write protected
[11:42] <dalamar> hm.
[11:42] <snorks> is the ati driver howto different on 5.04 VS breezy?
[11:43] <davmor2> dalamar: did you sudo the mount
[11:43] <dalamar> no i didnt
[11:43] <snorks> ccooke: Did you talk to me about ATI drivers?
[11:43] <matthew5> tar works but won't allow the --exclude flag. It's quite odd. Please take a look at the whole picture at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=70566 if you think you might be able to help
[11:43] <snorks> ccooke: earlier?
[11:43] <snorks> ccooke: I believe you did. Well, I'm on breezy now :) Wanna guide me through?
[11:43] <grogoreo> hi
[11:44] <matthew5> sorry, should introduce with...I have a problem, as outlined above
[11:44] <dalamar> and an attempt at chmodding the file gives me the read only file system error again, strange
[11:44] <MachineScrew> apokryphos, still got the same
[11:44] <davmor2> dalamar try sudo chmod -R 666 /path/to/file
[11:44] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: did you aptitude update before trying to reinstall?
[11:44] <MachineScrew> yes
[11:44] <grogoreo> I have 1GB of RAM and haven't specified a swap partition because of this, do you thinkthat I will encounter any problems?
[11:44] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: then you wouldn't have 17
[11:45] <none_> grogoreo, highly unlikely
[11:45] <grogoreo> I opened up about 10 large files in The Gimp before I reinstalled ubuntu (using swap) and it didn't go to swap, just used memory
[11:45] <grogoreo> none_: thanks
[11:45] <MachineScrew> (Reading database ... 125342 files and directories currently installed.)
[11:45] <MachineScrew> Unpacking usplash (from .../usplash_0.1-17_i386.deb) ...
[11:45] <MachineScrew> Setting up usplash (0.1-17) ...
[11:45] <MachineScrew> still the same i did the update
[11:45] <dalamar> davmor2, no luck, again the error with read only file system
[11:46] <BlueEagle> dalamar: which filesystem is the file on?
[11:46] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: then you must have not disabled those repositories
[11:46] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: make sure you have only the actual ubuntu ones
[11:46] <cafuego_> MachineScrew: Reinstall the kernel after the usplash update, so the initrd image is regenerated.
[11:46] <dalamar> BlueEagle, mount says the type is vfat?
[11:46] <erUSUL> hello all i have problems setting up pure-ftpd. i think i enabled virtual users right but i get 530 i can not trust you. any hints ??
[11:46] <MachineScrew> apokryphos, all you have to do is put # infront of those lines
[11:47] <MachineScrew> apokryphos, right
[11:47] <apokryphos> cafuego: no point; you can do a dpkg-reconfigure of the linux-image
[11:47] <BlueEagle> dalamar: which umask is the filesystem mounted with? Is it mounted as ro?
[11:47] <zyga> hello
[11:47] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: ok, then pastebin your sources.list
[11:47] <cafuego_> apokryphos: that's not aliased ;-)
[11:47] <davmor2> dalamar: if it is anything like mine then have you got 2 usbdisks show up
[11:47] <zyga> can anyone confirm that celestia works?
[11:47] <dalamar> BlueEagle, says umask=077
[11:47] <apokryphos> cafuego_: it doesn't work? That was the process advised some time ago
[11:48] <dalamar> cd /media
[11:48] <MachineScrew> apokryphos, you shure
[11:48] <dalamar> oops ;)
[11:48] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: am I sure I want you to pastebin it? Erm, yeah.
[11:48] <MachineScrew> pastbin where
[11:48] <dalamar> davmor2, only one /media/usbdisk listed
[11:49] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:49] <JDigital> Anyone know why mplayer is applying 280ms audio delay by default?
[11:50] <Anak1n> I fix mplayer and skype
[11:50] <Anak1n> :))))
[11:50] <Anak1n> ubuntu is THE BEST
[11:50] <Anak1n> :))
[11:50] <davmor2> dalamar try umounting it in console with sudo umount /media/usbdisk then remount it with sudo mount /dev/sda then see if you can edit it with root
[11:50] <MachineScrew> ok what do i put after it
[11:51] <cafuego_> Hey, no new X this morning?
[11:51] <MachineScrew> deb http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ubuntu
[11:51] <MachineScrew> apokryphos, why do I have to have an older version
[11:52] <cafuego_> apokryphos: it probably works, I just don't have the command aliases, so it takes longer to type.
[11:52] <davmor2> are there any python programmers on list please
[11:52] <cafuego_> apokryphos: That said, maybe I should alias it.
[11:52] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: no, pastebin (on the site I said) your /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:52] <MachineScrew> apokryphos, oh ok
[11:52] <dalamar> davmor2, it says i have to specify filesystem type when I try and remount, how would i do that?
[11:53] <MachineScrew> apokryphos, better question is it possible to install kubuntu then remove ubuntu ?
[11:53] <apokryphos> yes
[11:53] <MachineScrew> just using apt-get
[11:53] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: well, you're going to have to more explicitly define the situation
[11:53] <apokryphos> but I'm sure it's doable =)
[11:54] <cevizoglu> lol, they're calling it dapper drake to reflect the amount of polish being applied  ;)
[11:54] <apokryphos> (after trying out SuSE for a day or so)
[11:54] <davmor2> dalamar : sudo mount -t vfat32 /dev/sda
[11:54] <MachineScrew> ok affter I do apt-get install kubuntu-base kubuntu-desktop how would i remove ubuntu
[11:55] <davmor2> dalamar I think
[11:55] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: no kubuntu-base...
[11:55] <MachineScrew> ok no base
[11:55] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: install kubuntu-desktop, then just use debfoster, with the -desktop packages together
[11:55] <MachineScrew> but i want to remove all GNOME progs
[11:55] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: ubuntu and kubuntu share the same ubuntu-base
[11:55] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: the command I'm telling you will
[11:56] <cafuego_> MachineScrew: use synapric, remove them.
[11:56] <MachineScrew> ok debfoster ubuntu-desktop
[11:56] <MachineScrew> or debfoster ubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop
[11:56] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: other way round :)
[11:57] <MachineScrew> apokryphos, ok cool
[11:57] <dalamar> davmor2, still says read only ;/ this is so wierd, it used to automount fine with read and write
[11:57] <shinu> whats an alternative to madplay?
[11:58] <shinu> mpg123 or something?
[11:58] <MachineScrew> apokryphos, kubuntu-desktop ubuntu-desktop
[11:58] <MachineScrew> apokryphos, right
[11:58] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: make sure you install kubuntu-desktop first, then yes
[11:58] <cute_bettong> how long will i be able to use horey?
[11:58] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: use the help page for commands like that :). debfoster --help
[11:58] <davmor2> dalamar did you try to remove it with sudo rm filename.mp3
[11:58] <cute_bettong> cause breezy is kinda ticking me off
[11:59] <none_> cute_bettong, security updates will still be made
[11:59] <apokryphos> cute_bettong: you can use Hoary forever and ever
[11:59] <cute_bettong> or is it no longer supported
[11:59] <cute_bettong> really? sweet
[11:59] <apokryphos> cute_bettong: supported for 18 months
[11:59] <none_> it will be supported until the next release, IIRC
[11:59] <cute_bettong> oh ok
[11:59] <MachineScrew> ok thanks much
[11:59] <cute_bettong> so if i want to use it untill all the problems with breezy are solved i can?
[11:59] <Chousuke> Warty is still usable too :)
[12:00] <dalamar> davmor2, still gives the read only file system error
[12:00] <cute_bettong> cause breezy is giveing me mondo media problems