[12:00] <apokryphos> cute_bettong: of course; it is in fact recommended that you do that
[12:00] <apokryphos> cute_bettong: breezy hasn't reached stable status yet
[12:00] <cute_bettong> although i think that breezy has awsome potential
[12:00] <none_> it's a good idea to wait a month or two after the software is released before using it
[12:00] <cute_bettong> ok be back later
[12:00] <none_> unless you absolutely need cutting edge
[12:00] <cute_bettong> ^^
[12:00] <cute_bettong> nope
[12:00] <davmor2> dalamar is there anything on you can't put back on?
[12:00] <bob832> is it better to use apt-get update or the "update manager" that pops up by the clock to update the system?
[12:01] <none_> same thing bob2
[12:01] <none_> bob832
[12:01] <snorks> ccooke: you here?
[12:01] <bob832> oh ok. . . i know in fedora, some say its better to use the "update manager" than yum - didn't know if it was the same case in ubuntu
[12:02] <bob832> *yum update
[12:02] <dalamar> davmor2, well some save games if I cant get them off first is all
[12:02] <none_> it'll be fine
[12:03] <none_> it's just a frontend to apt-get update and upgrade
[12:03] <davmor2> dalamar is it a usb hard drive then not a pendrive
[12:03] <_jason> I;m going to install LaTeX, any recommendations?
[12:04] <BlueEagle> _jason: Wear sunscreen.
[12:04] <_jason> BlueEagle:  I don't have any D:
[12:04] <snorks> !ati
[12:04] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[12:04] <dalamar> davmor2, its a sony pro duo memcard in a psp connected through usb
[12:04] <eagleye> anyone know what this means.>>>Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[12:04] <eagleye> glxgears: Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual.
[12:05] <none_> eagleye, the glx module is missing from X
[12:05] <BlueEagle> eagleye: probably that you haven't got glx installed or loaded.
[12:05] <none_> not loaded
[12:05] <BlueEagle> eagleye: Which graphics card have you got?
[12:05] <JairunCaloth> anyone know of a Nintendo 64 emulator?
[12:05] <pepsi> wats a good program to use to burn an audio cd?
[12:05] <none_> JairunCaloth, mupen64
[12:05] <spayne> FYI ALL: Screenshot Tour of Ubuntu 5.10 Breezy at http://www.flickr.com/photos/spayne/sets/1047145/
[12:05] <eagleye> nvidia ultra gladiac
[12:05] <apokryphos> pepsi: k3b
[12:05] <ccooke> snorks: what's up?
[12:05] <BlueEagle> pepsi: k3b is my prefered choice.
[12:06] <eagleye> elsa gladiac ultra ,,that is
[12:06] <pepsi> do i need the k3b-mp3 package to decode mp3 files?
[12:06] <davmor2> dalamar not sure then I'm affraid.
[12:07] <dalamar> hm that stinks, thanks for trying though
[12:07] <BlueEagle> eagleye: sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx && sudo echo nvidia >> /etc/modules
[12:07] <BlueEagle> eagleye: ...and change the driver in your device section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf from "nv" to "nvidia" if it's not already done.
[12:07] <snorks> ccooke: im now on breezy. I talked to you ealrier about ati drivers
[12:08] <BlueEagle> eagleye: also sudo modprobe nvidia before restarting X
[12:08] <apokryphos> pepsi: you need some additional pack, yes
[12:08] <maddler> BlueEagle: looks like thos annoyng log lines come directly from kernel... or at least printks is used...
[12:08] <pepsi> ok
[12:08] <ccooke> snorks: yes. How are you getting on?
[12:08] <Anak1n> where to change subtitle size in mplayer this is my last question please tell me
[12:08] <snorks> ccooke: well, i did one howto, but didnt work. now im doing the ati driver howto for hoary
[12:08] <snorks> ccooke: but id rather listen to you
[12:08] <ccooke> snorks: *laugh*
[12:09] <ccooke> snorks: what have you done so far?
[12:09] <snorks> ccooke: ive done this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32495
[12:09] <snorks> !ati
[12:09] <ubotu> I heard ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[12:09] <concept10> message from breezy's snazzy new update manager: We strongly recommend that your machine is
[12:09] <concept10> restarted as soon as possible.
[12:09] <snorks> ccooke: and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[12:10] <Anak1n> where to change subtitle size in mplayer this is my last question please tell me
[12:10] <snorks> ccooke: the part for hoary
[12:10] <Fanskapet> agh i can't seem to be able to compile ndiswrapper on my amd64 ubuntu installation anymore.. odd.
[12:10] <ccooke> snorks: Okay
[12:10] <josip> When I try to startx I get Cannot run in framebuffer mode. Please specify bus IDs for all framebuffer devices. Any ideas ?
[12:10] <snorks> ccooke: last url i've gotten to rebooting, then I caught you
[12:10] <snorks> ccooke: so haven't rebooted yet
[12:10] <ccooke> snorks: try the reboot, then
[12:10] <snorks> ccooke: ok.
[12:10] <cafuego_> good, ndiswrapper is an abomination.
[12:11] <ccooke> cafuego_: bit strong, there
[12:12] <Lars_G> apokryphos: Hey there. you snook in I see
[12:12] <maximaus> heya, anyone know the font path for breezy--I'm dist-upgrading to it from hoary and heard that xorg.conf will break.
[12:12] <davmor2> cafuego_: it is also a needed evil if you have wifi built into a laptop (you might not like it doesn't make it bad though)
[12:13] <joh> maximaus: I don't think it will break
[12:13] <eagleye> Thanks BlueEagle, I hope it works
[12:13] <cpc> Im trying to give read access to a user diferent from root to a NTFS partition, but I already try everything and I only get read permission to root
[12:13] <ccooke> snorks: how's it looking?
[12:13] <none_> maximaus, /usr/X11R6
[12:13] <snorks> ccooke: I have direct rendering. But I'm not sure if it's good performance
[12:13] <apokryphos> Lars_G: sorry?
[12:13] <maximaus> none_, thx much!
[12:13] <joh> maximaus: you can just replace it with the maintainers version and then edit it for your system afterwards though.
[12:13] <ccooke> snorks: hmm
[12:13] <Lars_G> apokryphos: You snook in, while I wasn't looking
[12:13] <ccooke> snorks: what's the card?
[12:13] <joh> maximaus: shouldn't be much work unless you've edited it heavily.
[12:13] <snorks> ccooke: radeon 9800 nonpro
[12:14] <snorks> ccooke: anyway, glxgears doesn't print any FPS. It just starts the wheels
[12:14] <maximaus> haven't touched it short of changing the color depth.
[12:14] <ccooke> snorks: Right. I have one here.
[12:14] <ccooke> snorks: use fgl_glxgears
[12:14] <none_> /usr/share/X11/fonts
[12:14] <joh> maximaus: ok, should work then.
[12:14] <none_> sorry, i was wrong
[12:14] <Lars_G> snorks: It does, on the console you run it from
[12:14] <none_> apparently it's different in ubuntu
[12:14] <snorks> 4987 frames in 5.0 seconds = 997.400 FPS
[12:14] <snorks> 4855 frames in 5.0 seconds = 971.000 FPS
[12:14] <cpc> this is my fstab http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2675
[12:14] <delp> anyone know of a place to buy a good laptop?
[12:14] <snorks> Lars_G: it didnt
[12:15] <ccooke> snorks: yep, that looks good.
[12:15] <snorks> Lars_G: but fgl_ did
[12:15] <Lars_G> snorks: ah ok
[12:15] <ccooke> snorks: my X600 is averaging 500 FPS
[12:15] <jjazz> delp:  thinkpads are the gold standard in my book.
[12:15] <snorks> ccooke: ok great. :)
[12:15] <Lars_G> My FX 5200 averages 600 I think
[12:15] <delp> jjazz: you like them over the vaios?
[12:15] <Lars_G> or 400?
[12:16] <Lars_G> what package is the fgl_glxgears in?
[12:16] <ccooke> Lars_G: xorg-driver-fglrx
[12:16] <alexcamilo> hey. is there any way i can set up apt-get to get files from the internet instead of the cd?
[12:16] <Lars_G> ccooke: ty
[12:16] <jjazz> delp:  Yes.  Thinkpad's onboard hardware always works for me.  I've had vaio problems with linux compatibility.
[12:16] <ccooke> snorks: now, two things you may find useful
[12:17] <ccooke> snorks: First... if you go to System -> Preferences -> Multimedia Systems Selector
[12:17] <davmor2> alexcamilo yes remove the cd from the repositories list
[12:17] <alexcamilo> ah
[12:17] <maximaus> I think overstock.com sells reconditioned Thinkpads for a fair price.
[12:17] <Lars_G> apokryphos: Was I too odd/direct/oop?
[12:17] <delp> jjazz: oh, cool thinks
[12:18] <apokryphos> Lars_G: still no idea what you're talking about =)
[12:18] <delp> anyone ever had any problems out of recond or refurb notebooks?
[12:18] <Lars_G> ccooke: I guess that package is useless for me, since I use nvidia :)
[12:18] <uruguaian> hi
[12:18] <davmor2> sudo gedit /etc/apt/source.list just # the cd line at the top
[12:18] <csthepoet> I have no sound!!!! AHHHHHH!!!
[12:18] <jjazz> delp:  I usually buy thinkpads on ebay with some time left on the warranty.  I've seen stinkers, but the warranty fixes that.
[12:19] <csthepoet> lol
[12:19] <snorks> ccooke: ok doing
[12:19] <csthepoet> can anyone help me fix that?
[12:19] <snorks> ccooke: What do I do there? Or are you writing? :P
[12:19] <davmor2> csthepoet what you running
[12:19] <uruguaian> i've a parport cam.. and de kernel know it.. but i can make it work... exist support for parport webcams?
[12:20] <csthepoet> ubuntu
[12:20] <davmor2> csthepoet which version
[12:20] <csthepoet> davmor2, latest i believe
[12:21] <csthepoet> davmor2, i did some updating
[12:21] <ccooke> snorks: Can you see whether XV is working on the video sink?
[12:21] <snorks> Failed to construct test pipeline for 'XWindows (X11/XShm/Xv)
[12:21] <ccooke> snorks: right
[12:22] <davmor2> csthepoet are you still runnig hoary updated or breezy updated?
[12:22] <ccooke> snorks: you need to add to your device section the line 'Option "VideoOverlay" "on"'
[12:22] <ccooke> snorks: okay?
[12:22] <csthepoet> davmor2, don't know
[12:22] <snorks> ccooke: where is this device section? xorg.conf?
[12:22] <csthepoet> davmor2, how can i find out
[12:23] <n00bster1> is there a Firewall installed with ubuntu ?
[12:23] <ccooke> snorks: sorry, yes
[12:24] <snorks> ccooke: anything more in xorg.conf or do I save and quit?
[12:24] <Benjamin_L> does anyone else experience problems with no sounds in latest breezy ?
[12:24] <ccooke> snorks: depends. Got two monitors?
[12:24] <snorks> ccooke: no
[12:24] <ccooke> snorks: then save and restart X
[12:24] <erUSUL> n00bster: firestarter
[12:24] <alexcamilo> grrr. anyone know how to make the bios not complain about the keyboard bieng unplugged and not restarting? sigh.
[12:25] <snorks> brb
[12:25] <stpere> alexcamilo, halt on ...
[12:25] <alexcamilo> ?
[12:25] <davmor2> csthepoet click on applications do you have 'Add Applications' button at the bottom
[12:25] <stpere> alexcamilo, enter your setup screen and look for line starting by halt on ...
[12:26] <alexcamilo> oh
[12:26] <n00bster> is ubuntu coms with a fFirewall ?
[12:26] <erUSUL> n00bster: firestarter
[12:26] <alexcamilo> thanx
[12:26] <snorks> ccooke: well, didnt get error message
[12:26] <Benjamin_L> is there a synaptic log of the latest actions ?
[12:26] <n00bster> how can i x configure him ?
[12:26] <ccooke> snorks: right. That'll help if you play videos :-)
[12:26] <snorks> ccooke: sounds like a TV station's error signal :)
[12:26] <snorks> ccooke: sounds = look
[12:26] <ccooke> snorks: yeah
[12:26] <ccooke> snorks: it's just a test pattern :-)
[12:27] <snorks> ccooke: ok great. thanks man
[12:27] <Chambers_> hey guys, is there an app for debian that will hold passwords?  Like it puts passwords into a database and you can print them out.  I have a program for windows that's called password keeper i'd like something similar for linux
[12:27] <erUSUL> n00bster is graphical just run it and configure
[12:28] <Mindlight> Hi yall. Got an easy one. If got a handheld Ipaq with familiar which I i connected to my Ubuntu and I want to bridge my eth0 with my usb0 (the network interfaces). But I also want to be able to surf normally with my workstation. So I figure that I will wipe IPs from eth0 and usb0 and then set up br0 with brctl. connect eth0 and usb0 to br0 and viola...we got bridge....and then set dhcp IP to br0.
[12:28] <rosh> hello
[12:28] <n00bster> how do i run it ?
[12:28] <Mindlight> My problem is that I have a hard time to understand syntax in /etc/network/interfaces to really be sure that both usb0 & eth0 is up and bridged. I get it to work now and then but I never get really sure why it works etc. Anyone got a suggestion for what to write in interfaces to start with?
[12:28] <Chambers_> snorks: you finally able to do sudo?
[12:29] <davmor2> csthepoet click on applications do you have 'Add Applications' button at the bottom
[12:29] <n00bster> ok, i just found out it's not installed !!
[12:29] <erUSUL> n00bster: Aplications-> system tools->firestarter .......
[12:29] <rosh> I have just compiled mplayer and it would not display anything, just plays the sound. Some vidix error seem to pop up. Anyone experienced this problem?
[12:29] <imanol> hello
[12:29] <daejavu> need some help with Themes sort of things :D
[12:29] <WinZ> Help me please! After starting of gnome the symbol "P" can't be entered in any software. But I can enter it in console and gdm. After changing the keyboard layout in gnome all works fine. But there are the same problem after next booting. (Sorry for my bad english :( )
[12:29] <daejavu> how can i get that little button bar at the bottom like in Mac OsX ?
[12:30] <ompaul> Chambers_, these mypasswordsafe zsasfe in universe
[12:30] <uruguaian> i've a parport cam.. and de kernel know it.. but i can make it work... exist support for parport webcams?
[12:30] <Mindlight> daejavu: what do you run, Gnome or KDE?
[12:30] <Chambers_> thanks ompaul , i'll check it out
[12:30] <ompaul> Chambers_, however I have not tested either
[12:30] <daejavu> Gnome
[12:30] <davmor2> n00bster1 system/administration/synaptic type in your password then type firestarter in the search window
[12:31] <daejavu> Mindlight, Gnome
[12:31] <Benjamin_L> no one has problems with sound in latest breezy ?
[12:31] <ompaul> Benjamin_L, define problems
[12:31] <berserk__> no
[12:31] <n00bster> it's not there, here's my menu picture: http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=e6b02p
[12:31] <daejavu> Mindlight, any idea ?
[12:32] <n00bster> i chaecked in Synaptic and sow that it's not installed !!!
[12:32] <imanol> I have a problem with sound system: always i use some kde aplication a message says it put sound to /dev/null. I can hear sound of system, but not music. I have to kill -9 artsd. Dos any one why?
[12:32] <Benjamin_L> ompaul, I don't have any sound at all although alsa loads without problems at start and the mixer shows no problems
[12:33] <rob_p> n00bster:  It's not installed by default.  So install it if you need it.
[12:33] <ompaul> Benjamin_L, what app are you trying to use?
[12:33] <WinZ> anyone have problems with keyboard layout in gnome?
[12:33] <csthepoet> davmor2, sorry i got a phone call and got distracted
[12:33] <Benjamin_L> ompaul,  well, i got no system sound, no sound in xxms and no sound in lamip
[12:33] <berserk__> xmms close?
[12:33] <davmor2> csthepoet click on applications do you have 'Add Applications' button at the bottom
[12:33] <crimsun> Benjamin_L, please paste the output of amixer onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:33] <csthepoet> davmor2, no i have run application
[12:33] <angelynn> with the sound trying turning the sound server on and off
[12:34] <davmor2> csthepoet okay your hoary
[12:34] <n00bster> but i just scannd my ports online , and ther is not a single port open, gottabe Firewall, no ?
[12:34] <ompaul> Benjamin_L, I had no sound in xmms and found sound in beep which made me think it is an xmms config issue, if that does not work try killall esd and then see if there are any more packages to download
[12:35] <rob_p> n00bster:  Probably because you are behind a NAT router.
[12:35] <Benjamin_L> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2676
[12:35] <n00bster> oh,, yes i em :}
[12:35] <davmor2> csthepoet try opening a console and typing killall esd
[12:35] <rob_p> n00bster:  Then you probably don't want to fool with a local firewall.
[12:35] <erUSUL> n00bster no, there is nobady listen on the ports so the ports are closed but visible from internet
[12:35] <flodine> guys is the mirrormax site gone
[12:36] <WinZ>     ?
[12:36] <n00bster> forgot all about this, so whay my frid cannot connect to my desktop? i'm using vnc4server
[12:36] <csthepoet> davmor2, ok done it says esd: no process killed
[12:36] <rob_p> n00bster:  You'll have to set up port forwarding on your router for that.
[12:36] <n00bster> ectually my router is not blocking eny ports
[12:36] <flodine> anyone on the hoary 5.04
[12:37] <brenton> does hoary come with a GUI for configuring servers (http, ssh, etc)?
[12:37] <flodine> is mirrormax working
[12:37] <n00bster> hmm... how do i go about doing this (Alcatel STH)
[12:37] <n00bster> you know what port vnc4server uses ?
[12:37] <Benjamin_L> ompaul, no process killed and beep plays normally too, but without sound
[12:37] <rob_p> n00bster:  Can't help you there.  You'll have to read the manual that came with it.
[12:37] <davmor2> csthepoet okay try checking the system/preferences/sound and make sure it is switched on
[12:37] <uruguaian> if i'm in the Gnome Desktop, can i change to de console mode?
[12:38] <crimsun> Benjamin_L, in a Terminal: amixer sset 'Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack' on
[12:38] <berserk__> no
[12:38] <berserk__> off
[12:38] <n00bster> but with windows eny app that i appruve in the xp firewall, get access !!
[12:38] <ompaul> Benjamin_L, try firing up alsamixer or (or kmixer if kde installed) and check that for muted services of some sort
[12:38] <Benjamin_L> well, i want it on and listen to analog output too
[12:38] <erUSUL> brenton: webmin is the closest thing....
[12:38] <csthepoet> davmor2, the enable sound server at startup is checked
[12:39] <n00bster> no eny configurations are needed in the router ..
[12:39] <RockyBurt|away> hm, anyone know if the linux-image-i686 kernel is good for pentium-m as well? (the description names ppro, celeron, p2, p3, p4)
[12:39] <rob_p> n00bster:  Then either your router is not doing NAT or else it is already configured to forward inbound connections (like DMZ).
[12:39] <erUSUL> RockyBurt|away: yes
[12:40] <davmor2> csthepoet okay try in console sudo /etc/init.d/esd restart && /etc/init.d/alsa restart
[12:40] <crimsun> Benjamin_L, did you execute the amixer command?
[12:41] <Benjamin_L> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2676
[12:41] <n00bster> rob_p can yuo ping me ?
[12:41] <rob_p> n00bster:  In that case, you shouldn't have to mess with the router.  However, you will need to know which local IP address is configured as the DMZ address if that's the case.
[12:41] <crimsun> Benjamin_L, no, the second one.
[12:41] <crimsun> this one --> in a Terminal: amixer sset 'Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack' on
[12:41] <csthepoet> davmor2, sudo: /etc/init.d/esd: command not found
[12:42] <n00bster> i have no DMZ configuration (its and old Alcatel SpeedTauch Home)
[12:42] <Benjamin_L> crimsun, that did it, don't know why :)
[12:42] <crimsun> Benjamin_L, I know why, which is why I told you to do it. :)
[12:42] <davmor2> csthepoet not sure then?  have you just updated it?
[12:42] <Benjamin_L> crimsun, ok, thanks :) tell me please. didn't change a thing related to this
[12:42] <erUSUL> csthepoet: esd is not a "service" of init run it from a terminal
[12:43] <crimsun> Benjamin_L, as you might guess, the element toggles which of the optical/analog outputs are selected as "enabled"/"primary"
[12:44] <Benjamin_L> crimsun, yes, makes sense
[12:44] <Benjamin_L> crimsun, but how does this change suddenly ?
[12:44] <Lars_G> Ah, apokryphos went?
[12:44] <Lars_G> no, there he is.
[12:45] <csthepoet> erUSUL, ok
[12:45] <Lars_G> apokryphos: Sir would you give me your feedback?
[12:45] <crimsun> Benjamin_L, "change suddenly"?
[12:45] <csthepoet> erUSUL,  * Shutting down ALSA...
[12:45] <csthepoet>  * /etc/init.d/alsa: Warning: 'alsactl store' failed with error message 'alsactl: save_state:1221: Cannot open /var/lib/alsa/asound.state for writing'.  [ ok ] 
[12:45] <csthepoet>  * Setting up ALSA...
[12:45] <vladuz976> if i wanna have US enlish, what should i set my language locals to?
[12:45] <Benjamin_L> crimsun, well it worked this morning ^^
[12:45] <spanglesontoast> why can I not press my eject button on this dvd-rw drive and  and it won't eject
[12:45] <Benjamin_L> crimsun, is this due to the latest alsa update ?
[12:45] <crimsun> Benjamin_L, have you dist-upgraded from Hoary to Breezy?
[12:45] <Benjamin_L> crimsun, long time ago
[12:45] <apokryphos> Lars_G: on what exactly?
[12:45] <erUSUL> spanglesontoast: maybe it is still mounted?
[12:46] <crimsun> Benjamin_L, then you or some other application must have muted it
[12:46] <Lars_G> apokryphos: I'm switching my computer tonight, from an Athlon XP to an Athlon 64 bit
[12:46] <Benjamin_L> crimsun, strange but it works now ;)
[12:46] <spanglesontoast> yea it works in suse
[12:46] <erUSUL> csthepoet: have you done that as root??
[12:46] <spanglesontoast> but not fedora mandrake dsl
[12:46] <csthepoet> erUSUL, no
[12:46] <crimsun> Benjamin_L, there is an open bugzilla issue regarding state being clobbered for dist-upgrades, and we're working on a solution for that
[12:46] <spanglesontoast> or ubuntu
[12:46] <apokryphos> Lars_G: if you don't mind not having flash, then, well, there shouldn't be anything really stopping you. =)
[12:46] <csthepoet> erUSUL, do i?
[12:46] <Benjamin_L> crimsun, ok, thanks again
[12:47] <crimsun> Benjamin_L, np
[12:47] <Lars_G> apokryphos: my current install loads and runs, but, is there any way to upgrade the system LIVE to AMD64?
[12:47] <Lars_G> apokryphos: No flash?
[12:47] <erUSUL> csthepoet: yes run it with sudo
[12:47] <apokryphos> Lars_G: there is no way, nope.
[12:48] <apokryphos> Lars_G: macromedia don't have flash yet for 64-bit, yup.
[12:48] <csthepoet> erUSUL, ok i did it
[12:48] <Lars_G> apokryphos: But they have a 32 bit flash for windows....
[12:48] <csthepoet> erUSUL, it said shutting down ALSA then setting up ALSA
[12:48] <apokryphos> Lars_G: I'd just save your /home/, reinstall ubuntu, and then a few extra packs and you should be fine.
[12:49] <apokryphos> Lars_G: correct
[12:49] <Lars_G> apokryphos: I have crossover.
[12:49] <Lars_G> apokryphos: I can run crossover with linux32
[12:49] <brokenbox> anyone know why there are two packages for firefox,  mozilla-firefox and firefox?
[12:50] <Lars_G> brokenbox: Are you using backports?
[12:50] <Chinaman> how would i install ALSA with my audigy2 value?
[12:50] <apokryphos> Lars_G: it might be available for 64-bit, no idea bout it really
[12:50] <brokenbox> lemme check my sources.list real quick if i remember correctly i am
[12:50] <crimsun> Chinaman, it should work automagically.
[12:50] <Chinaman> hmm
[12:51] <Chinaman> how do i install ALSA?
[12:51] <Lars_G> apokryphos: Nope, but I can use linux32 can't I?
[12:51] <grogoreo> how can I find out why a program doesn't start? For instance mplayer  is installed but when I click on it in the Applications menu the cursor changes to busy but then stops and nothing comes up.
[12:51] <erUSUL> csthepoet: run alsamixer in terminal
[12:51] <crimsun> brokenbox, in Warty and Hoary, the Firefox package is called 'mozilla-firefox'. In Breezy, it's called 'firefox'.
[12:51] <brokenbox> yeah i do, so firefox is the backported package
[12:51] <crimsun> Chinaman, it's already installed
[12:51] <apokryphos> Lars_G: you can create a chroot, yes
[12:51] <Lars_G> brokenbox: Do not use the backports
[12:51] <brokenbox> so if im running hoary i need to run  mozilla-firefox
[12:51] <janne_Newbie> hi!
[12:51] <csthepoet> erUSUL, it says no such device
[12:52] <crimsun> brokenbox, yes. _unless_ you use backports (which you should avoid anyhow).
[12:52] <erUSUL> grogoreo: run it from terminal
[12:52] <janne_Newbie> how i can uninstall firefox and replace it eith Opera?
[12:52] <peersoft> hey everyone
[12:52] <peersoft> ;] 
[12:52] <brokenbox> yeah im seeing that now
[12:52] <crimsun> janne_Newbie, why replace firefox? Why not just install Opera?
[12:52] <brokenbox> backports screwed up my firefox install
[12:52] <Lars_G> apokryphos: Well, I can get the 64 bit cpu but still run it on 32 bit mode.
[12:52] <brokenbox> thanks everyone
[12:52] <erUSUL> csthepoet: which souncard are you trying to configure
[12:52] <janne_Newbie> ok...
[12:53] <peersoft> well i just downloaded kubuntu
[12:53] <csthepoet> erUSUL, my laptop's sound card
[12:53] <apokryphos> Lars_G: yes, that's what I said :)
[12:53] <peersoft> to use on my PC @ home
[12:53] <peersoft> ;] 
[12:53] <crimsun> Chinaman, what's the issue with your Audigy2 Value anyhow?
[12:53] <janne_Newbie> i just wondering bec my firefox make jokes with me...doesnt start...
[12:53] <janne_Newbie> bec i updated ubuntu...
[12:53] <apokryphos> janne_Newbie: what's the error?
[12:53] <Chinaman> well, it's not working
[12:53] <cute_bettong> ahhh good old hoary ^_^
[12:53] <Lars_G> apokryphos: Sigh, thanks dude.
[12:53] <erUSUL> csthepoet: which is?
[12:54] <janne_Newbie> doesnt start....it try to start but doesnt make it finnish...
[12:54] <csthepoet> erUSUL, hmm actualy i have no idea
[12:54] <Lars_G> apokryphos: If I decide to do this, would it work if I change the sources to amd64 and use a dist-ipgrade
[12:54] <apokryphos> Lars_G: but of course if you're running it in a 32-bit chroot, you're not really using amd64's power :P
[12:54] <crimsun> Chinaman, that's way too vague to be useful.
[12:54] <apokryphos> Lars_G: no
[12:54] <Chinaman> doesn't automatically recognize card
[12:54] <grogoreo> erUSUL: I've just tired it and found "MPlayer was compiled WITHOUT GUI support." even though I installed it via apt and mplayer-custom :-s
[12:54] <apokryphos> Lars_G: mainly because the sources are exactly the same ;-)
[12:54] <Chinaman> ubuntu just says unknown pci device
[12:54] <erUSUL> csthepoet: run lsmod | grep snd
[12:54] <janne_Newbie> later i try to put lynx...and then it worked...but today i try to install skype....and i played some reprositories...and it make some prob...
[12:54] <Chinaman> it knows the company, but nothing more
[12:55] <janne_Newbie> doesnt start...
[12:55] <crimsun> Chinaman, lspci -v|grep audio
[12:55] <erUSUL> grogoreo: well i do not know... i do not have mplayer myself
[12:55] <Chinaman> lspci -v|grep audio
[12:55] <Chinaman> oops
[12:55] <Lars_G> apokryphos: sigh
[12:55] <janne_Newbie> i think that firefox is somehow in related with ubuntu graphic interface? am i right?
[12:55] <grogoreo> erUSUL: ok thanks, I'll try something else
[12:55] <Chinaman> 0000:00:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs: Unknown device 0008
[12:55] <apokryphos> Lars_G: you care for flash?
[12:55] <Lars_G> apokryphos: And my games
[12:56] <crimsun> Chinaman, paste the output from lspci -vv onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:56] <csthepoet> erUSUL, ok which one do i read to you
[12:56] <apokryphos> Lars_G: Cedega might well run on 64-bit; have you not checked?
[12:56] <janne_Newbie> 9if i remove firefox packages i remove most of graphic systems same time?
[12:56] <Lars_G> apokryphos: http://www.seanius.net/linux/amd64/cedega-hl2-amd64.html
[12:56] <daejavu> need some help with Themes sort of things :D
[12:56] <crimsun> janne_Newbie, no
[12:56] <daejavu> how can i get that little button bar at the bottom like in Mac OsX ?
[12:56] <erUSUL> csthepoet: paste to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/
[12:57] <apokryphos> Lars_G: yup, a chroot
[12:57] <janne_Newbie> crimsun....how?
[12:57] <Chinaman> sent
[12:57] <kent> hmm, I think i found a bug in Breezy/nautilus but im unsure of which package to file it against. If i choose to share a folder with nautilus, then first of all, the dialog is not resizeable, so I cant see the whole path, and it seems that my /home/kent/Desktop/Green Day is chopped to /home/kent/Desktop/Green.  :(  Should I file it against nautilus?
[12:57] <janne_Newbie> have u removed firefox?
[12:57] <nuopus> hello
[12:58] <Chinaman> hi
[12:58] <csthepoet> erUSUL, ok done
[12:58] <erUSUL> csthepoet: tell me the url... ;)
[12:58] <nuopus> hey does anyone know if Debian/Ubuntu has a way to remove unused packages?
[12:58] <Chinaman> crimsun: now what?
[12:58] <tga> nuopus, how would you define an unused package?
[12:58] <crimsun> janne_Newbie, sure. Ubuntu works fine without it.
[12:58] <rob^> use aptitude
[12:58] <apokryphos> nuopus: deborphan, and debfoster for others if need-be
[12:58] <nuopus> a package that is not a dependency of anything else and was not explicitly installed
[12:59] <Lars_G> apokryphos: But I can't afford the downtime right now, I'll use it in 32 bit until I can reinstall. Sigh
[12:59] <csthepoet> erUSUL, it has your name
[12:59] <crimsun> Chinaman, it's standard to say the URL
[12:59] <nuopus> gentoo and arch this is easy
[12:59] <nuopus> okay deborphan
[12:59] <Chinaman> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2677
[12:59] <Chinaman> i am such a n00b
[12:59] <janne_Newbie> Crimsun..? Does it harm my ubuntu if i remove firefox package....?
[12:59] <erUSUL> csthepoet: ok
[12:59] <tga> janne_Newbie, no
[12:59] <Lars_G> apokryphos: This is all your file.
[12:59] <crimsun> janne_Newbie, see above where I said "no"
[01:00] <apokryphos> Lars_G: sorry?
[01:00] <janne_Newbie> what package i must remove? there many packages...?
[01:00] <Lars_G> apokryphos: It's your fault I need to reinstall
[01:00] <Lars_G> janne_Newbie: mozilla-firefox
[01:00] <Leshrac> does anyone know how can I play wmv files?
[01:00] <crimsun> Chinaman, and what are the contents of /proc/asound/cards?
[01:00] <Chinaman> wtf
[01:00] <Chinaman> hmm
[01:00] <tga> !tell leshrac about codecs
[01:00] <apokryphos> Lars_G: what are you talking about?
[01:01] <erUSUL> csthepoet: and you can not run alsamixer...? it's weird
[01:01] <janne_Newbie> i put it down...
[01:01] <tga> Leshrac, afaik the w32codecs package will enable you to play wmvs
[01:01] <Chinaman> crimsun: doesn't exist
[01:01] <janne_Newbie> thanks for advice...
[01:01] <Digo_RP> lo guys
[01:01] <Chinaman> asound folder doesn't exist
[01:01] <nuopus> okay and one more question. does totem in ubuntu look in /usr/lib/win32 for the win32 codecs like the stock mplayer does?
[01:01] <csthepoet> erUSUL, what's the command to run it again
[01:02] <csthepoet> erUSUL, i'll just try agian
[01:02] <Digo_RP> guys please anyone could help me? I'm trying to setup network on gnone syste/AdministrationNetworking
[01:02] <Digo_RP> I got that error message -> Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.
[01:02] <tga> what's a nice trouble ticket system?
[01:02] <erUSUL> csthepoet: alsamixer
[01:02] <Digo_RP> what could I do to fix it?
[01:02] <crimsun> Chinaman, ok, now I need lspci -nv output
[01:02] <Digo_RP> anyone could help me
[01:03] <csthepoet> erUSUL, just type that?
[01:03] <csthepoet> erUSUL, do i type it in root?
[01:03] <Digo_RP> Failed to run network-admin:
[01:03] <janne_Newbie> im so unsure for these things bec i i used one time....sudo apt-get upgrade -f .....command to fix my problems....(1 package) and it removed 10 packages included nautilus etc...
[01:03] <erUSUL> csthepoet: yes in a terminal no need to be root
[01:03] <daejavu> If u wanna change the Splash Screen   pic .. where do u put the new one ?
[01:03] <brokenbox> So i cant get either package mozilla-firefox or firefox to remove with synaptic, or aptitude.  It keeps telling me one needs the other to operate or fails on the .deb extraction any idears?
[01:03] <jmg> arrgh i have a bug in reportbug!
[01:03] <Chinaman> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2679
[01:04] <Lars_G> apokryphos: Would it be saner to forget about the amd 64?
[01:04] <csthepoet> erUSUL, alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[01:04] <nuopus> I installed new breezy ... and there is no splash screen like everyone talks about .... the live-CD does though. How do I turn this on ... what package do I dpkg-reconfigure?
[01:05] <IcE-bOy> hi
[01:05] <erUSUL> csthepoet: try 'ls /dev/snd/' and check that the devs are threre
[01:05] <tga> can anyone recommend a trouble-ticket system?
[01:05] <brokenbox> whats the consensus on upgrading to breezy, is it worth it?
[01:05] <Dalkus> is there a way to block any incoming mail from *.whatever.com in thunderbird?
[01:05] <Dalkus> or on a server that I don't have root access to?
[01:05] <Lars_G> apokryphos: once I go to the AMD64 will all .debs pulled by apt/synaptic automatically be amd64 debs even if the system installed is 32bit?
[01:05] <nuopus> I just came to breezy from gentoo. I like so far
[01:05] <crimsun> Chinaman, does the retail box for your sound card mention "7.1" or 24-bit? This pci id looks familiar.
[01:06] <csthepoet> erUSUL, controlC0  controlC1  pcmC1D0c  pcmC1D0p  timer
[01:06] <csthepoet> erUSUL, that's what came up
[01:06] <Chinaman> yes, it's 7.1
[01:06] <Chinaman> and 24-bit
[01:06] <apokryphos> Lars_G: as I said, I would most certainly rather have an amd64 (and do)
[01:06] <crimsun> Chinaman, are you using Hoary or Breezy?
[01:06] <Digo_RP> guys please is not working
[01:06] <Chinaman> hoary
[01:07] <crimsun> Chinaman, you need to compile the snd-ca0106 driver. I'm sending you instructions.
[01:07] <crimsun> !tell Chinaman about alsa-source
[01:07] <jmg> crimsun: reportbug in breezy is totally broken... im going to file directly to malone
[01:08] <stein> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[01:08] <stein> Any idea why I get this ? Maybe becasue of failed update I had today ?
[01:08] <nuopus> stein: have you tried doing a depmod -ae?
[01:08] <Chase> does anyone know how to write a sudoers line so my user can shutdown the PC without a password? I want to be able to run it in a script so cant be here to type in the pasword
[01:08] <morale> w
[01:08] <stein> nuopus: no
[01:08] <Lars_G> apokryphos: I didn't get that, could you rephrase?
[01:08] <nuopus> try it
[01:08] <crimsun> jmg, bugzilla. It's a main package.
[01:08] <n00bster> can enyone plz upload the deafolt ubuntu Wallpaper file here: http://tinypic.com/ (i lost my)
[01:09] <nuopus> stein: or if you just recently upgraded kernel ... reboot
[01:09] <erUSUL> csthepoet: well the devs are there...
[01:09] <nuopus> stein: or do both! lol
[01:09] <jmg> crimsun: arrgh so many disparate bug trackers!!!
[01:09] <n00bster> prefreblly on 1280x1024 resolution
[01:09] <stein> nuopus:  I rebooted. I tries depmod -ae , it is still the same
[01:09] <Lord_Athur> hello
[01:09] <crimsun> jmg, it will all be over. Soon.
[01:09] <Lord_Athur> I've a question
[01:09] <crimsun> we may have answers.
[01:09] <Chinaman> what's the ISA pnp driver?
[01:10] <stein> nuopus: it is a pretty stupid error : Operation not permitted , I am root, what else does it want ???
[01:10] <crimsun> Chinaman, it's not relevant for you; answer "no"
[01:10] <Goofster> hi folks, I'm trying my hand at ubuntu, specifically, trying to install a wlan pcmcia card with a rt2500 chipset. I followd the wiki page about this, but I can't seem to get my network up. anyone have experience with this?
[01:10] <crimsun> Chinaman, then answer "yes" to debugging
[01:10] <nuopus> lol
[01:10] <rob_p> Chase:  "username ALL= NOPASSWD: /path/to/script" should do it...
[01:10] <Lord_Athur> What happen when the terminal has a problem, Do I have to reinstall all (formating and all)?
[01:10] <nuopus> stein: I have seen that before if the modules were not build with same symbols as the current running kernel
[01:10] <Chinaman> which one do i choose now?
[01:10] <Chase> rob_p: i tryed that is said i had to be root to do that 'shutdown: you must be root to do that!'
[01:10] <crimsun> Chinaman, ca0106
[01:10] <nuopus> stein: but those modules are the ones from the linux-restricted package?
[01:11] <stein> nuopus: so what now ? apt-get upgrade ?  Install updates ?
[01:11] <Chinaman> not one of the choices
[01:11] <stein> nuopus: I have plain hoary + some updates
[01:11] <n00bster> can enyone upload the deafolt ubuntu Wallpaper file to here: http://tinypic.com/ (i lost my) ...
[01:11] <apokryphos> Lars_G: amd64 is far superior (and I prefer it). It has a couple of drawbacks, but as I said, personally I easily prefer it.
[01:12] <nuopus> stein: You could try that. Some reasons for that happening: ndiswrapper module compiled with symbols from a different kernel ... and .. well ... thats it!
[01:12] <nuopus> stein: lol
[01:12] <erUSUL> csthepoet: what was youre problem? you can not hear anything?
[01:12] <uruguaian> i've a parport cam.. and de kernel know it.. but i can make it work... exist support for parport webcams?
[01:12] <nuopus> stein: thats all I can think of
[01:12] <csthepoet> erUSUL, nope
[01:12] <nuopus> brb
[01:12] <n00bster> i mean the vreezy wallpapaer file :}
[01:12] <n00bster> breezy *
[01:12] <stein> nuopus: I had an update of 105 packages today, but i failed for some reason :-(
[01:12] <stein> i=it
[01:13] <Lars_G> apokryphos: Ok I will do it. but if I decide not to upgrade my ubuntu to amd64 for now. Will any package I pull with apt be amd64 anyhow?
[01:13] <apokryphos> yes, of course
[01:13] <rob_p> Chase:  Then apply it to the shutdown command as in, "username ALL=NOPASSWD: /sbin/shutdown -h now" or similar.
[01:13] <n00bster> can enyone upload the deafolt ubuntu Wallpaper file to here: http://tinypic.com/ (i lost my) ...
[01:13] <Chinaman> crimsun: ca0106 is not one of the choices
[01:13] <Chinaman> do i install all?
[01:14] <erUSUL> csthepoet: run amixer info
[01:14] <MadpilotPPC> n00bster, did you actually erase the file, or just change your current wallpaper?
[01:14] <JDigital> When does Breezy come out?
[01:15] <Lars_G> JDigital: October.
[01:15] <Lars_G> JDigital: Hopefully
[01:15] <MadpilotPPC> Oct 13th
[01:15] <JDigital> It's October already!
[01:15] <stein> Is kernel  2.6.10-5-386 the latest for hoary ?
[01:15] <csthepoet> erUSUL, amixer: Control device default open error: No such device
[01:15] <JDigital> Oh.
[01:15] <n00bster> erase
[01:15] <JDigital> It's already seventeen minutes into October
[01:15] <JDigital> I want my breezy
[01:16] <JDigital> mainly because it will have the latest mplayer
[01:16] <Lars_G> apokryphos: Please? sir?
[01:16] <apokryphos> Lars_G: whatt?
[01:16] <n00bster> i erased the file, can you plz uload? i'm talking about the one woth the teardrops :}
[01:16] <apokryphos> Lars_G: I'll feel old if you keep calling me sir ;-)
[01:16] <n00bster> the one with the teardrops *
[01:17] <Chinaman> crimsun: how do i enable universal repository?
[01:17] <Lars_G> apokryphos: When I move to the amd64, if I keep using my current k7 kernel and i386 system, will apt pull i386 packages or will it start pulling amd64 packages automatically?
[01:17] <Chinaman> i think that could be my problem
[01:17] <n00bster> >?
[01:17] <apokryphos> Lars_G: you can't "keep your current kernel", you can't do an "update to 64"; you have to do a full-blown reinstall
[01:18] <Lars_G> apokryphos: Why can't I keep my kernel? I booted my HDD on the AMD64 as a test and it worked perfectly....
[01:18] <erUSUL> csthepoet: i'm lost. you have your card there but the mixers can not acces it... can not help you sorry
[01:18] <Lars_G> apokryphos: And all ran without troubles.
[01:18] <n00bster> MadpilotPPC, are you uploading ??
[01:19] <apokryphos> Lars_G: ...because you won't be running 64-bit, and you don't just change the kernel; you need to change *all packages*
[01:19] <IcE-bOy> i have 2 different laptops with ubunt breezy and with 2 laptops when i try to change the brignets with FN + ... the laptops go to sleep
[01:19] <Lars_G> I know.
[01:19] <IcE-bOy> what can i do ?
[01:19] <Lars_G> apokryphos: I know... but I can't reinstall my system RIGHT NOW, so I will run in 32 bits for a little while longer.
[01:19] <apokryphos> Lars_G: do you not have your /home on a seperate partition or something?
[01:19] <Lars_G> apokryphos: I can't afford more than 30 minutes downtime dude.
[01:20] <Lars_G> btw is dude better? ;)
[01:20] <apokryphos> then you can't reinstall :)
[01:20] <n00bster> MadpilotPPC, are you uploading ?.....
[01:20] <csthepoet> erUSUL, that's ok my best friend fixed it before i'm sure you can figure it out again
[01:20] <lamp_> n8
[01:20] <csthepoet> erUSUL, thanks for your help
[01:21] <Lars_G> apokryphos: Correct I wont reinstall until latter in the week
[01:21] <n00bster> can enyone pleas upload the deafolt ubuntu Wallpaper file to here: http://tinypic.com/ (i deleted my by mistake) ...
[01:21] <Lars_G> apokryphos: That's why I am asking, if while i don't reinstall,  I can do apt-get with ease or I will have to wait until I reinstall.
[01:21] <n00bster> plzzzzzzz
[01:21] <apokryphos> Lars_G: I'd really recommend just waiting
[01:21] <janne_Newbie> why it says: ubuntu-desktop...when i want just remove firefox?
[01:21] <Lars_G> apokryphos: Ok, but I need to do the switch tonight or I'll loose the opportunity.
[01:21] <Chinaman> crimsun?
[01:22] <apokryphos> janne_Newbie: ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage that depends on a few default things; i.e. firefox
[01:22] <apokryphos> Lars_G: well, you know your options :)
[01:22] <K^Holtz> Would someone be able to tell me how well ubuntu will support the hardware from my Compaq? It's an old 900MHz pc. I installed red hat on it once before and had some issues. I was hoping ubuntu would be different. Sorry if this question is too general.
[01:22] <SamyG> hello everybody
[01:22] <janne_Newbie> not all about ubuntu desktop...etc..graphical...systems...?
[01:22] <Lars_G> apokryphos: ..... I like your style very much, but there is something in you that makes me what to whine or just give up and turn around and go away.
[01:23] <n00bster> 10x 4 nothing :[
[01:23] <jack-> fn~K^Holtz: just give it a try
[01:23] <Lars_G> apokryphos: It's that soft cheerfullness in which you refuse to understand, and make me feel it's on complete purpose. :)
[01:23] <jack-> running ubuntu on a dell crap pc here without problems
[01:23] <janne_Newbie> and if i remove it how i can connect to internet....? does some1 have connection to get opera...?
[01:23] <K^Holtz> haha.. i had a feeling that would be my answer
[01:23] <jack-> compaq cant be worse
[01:23] <Lars_G> apokryphos: Thanks for your advice, it's appreciated.
[01:23] <K^Holtz> i dunno.. compaq is pretty bad
[01:23] <jack-> dell is worse, believe me
[01:23] <K^Holtz> i couldnt even installed windows w/o problems
[01:23] <apokryphos> Lars_G: once again, I'm seriously confused about what you're talking about exactly. You're coming out with random disjointed sentences 8)
[01:23] <jack-> some compaq pcs are pretty ok
[01:24] <Lars_G> apokryphos: How the fuck can I explain? :)
[01:24] <janne_Newbie> or..if i remove firefox...can i get it back full funtioning back...
[01:24] <janne_Newbie> istalling packages again...?
[01:24] <SamyG> Excuse me, I would like to know if ubuntu can be installed in SATA hdds. I once tried to install other distro (mandrake) and it wasn't able.
[01:24] <K^Holtz> if i install and run into an issue like No Sound... could that be fixed by downloading some type of drivers or something?
[01:24] <Lars_G> apokryphos: I am getting an amd64, but only if I install it tonight. I need to run this amd64 in 32 bit under my current install for a week more. While I do so, I wonder if apt-get will install packages for 32 bit or for 64 bit, if it bases on the distro that was installed or the arch it detects.
[01:24] <apokryphos> Lars_G: I understand the situation, no need to further explain, I think. I gave you comments though -- you know the options :P
[01:24] <apokryphos> Lars_G: but you are indeed a fast typer :)
[01:25] <Lars_G> apokryphos: Lol. ok. Thanks apokryphos I will refrain from using apt, and will run the system in 32 bit under an amd64 for a week. that is my decision. thanks
[01:25] <apokryphos> Lars_G: the distro it installs
[01:25] <barspi> Quick question. Should I (A) Install 5.04 and upgrade to 5.10 final? (can it be done?) or (B) Install 5.10 Preview and then upgrade to 5.10 final?
[01:25] <janne_Newbie> u say people..that if i remove firefox packages...that my computer works fine else where...?
[01:26] <Lars_G> janne_Newbie: Why are you so determined to remove your firefox?
[01:26] <K^Holtz> jack-?
[01:26] <jack-> answer is yes, most probably
[01:26] <K^Holtz> ok, thank you
[01:26] <janne_Newbie> bec it give me too much for headeache....it wont upgrade....
[01:27] <Lars_G> janne_Newbie: Then don't upgrade it, and don't use it.
[01:27] <jack-> barspi, install 5.04 and get 5.10 when its final
[01:27] <jack-> will be a smooth upgrade
[01:27] <Lars_G> I feel faint.
[01:27] <janne_Newbie> i upgraded my ubuntu and then my firefox is f..ing...me up...
[01:27] <Lars_G> I'll go make the upgrade.
[01:27] <Lars_G> thanks a lot apokryphos
[01:27] <NightLord> I got a problem
[01:27] <MrGardenHoseMan> where is the file located with all the reposetory info?
[01:27] <Lars_G> NightLord: Yes, you relate instead of asking.
[01:27] <barspi> hmm I hope so :-)  Actually it's for my home server. I don't need fancy desktop stuff. It's been running redhat 7.3 for years
[01:28] <janne_Newbie> but i upgraded...and now i want get good browser to get internet....that work...
[01:28] <NightLord> I wanna burn an iso in breezy, but when I try to burn it, the computer doesn't recognise that there is a CDR in the drive
[01:28] <apokryphos> MrGardenHoseMan: /etc/apt/
[01:28] <MrGardenHoseMan> thx
[01:28] <apokryphos> janne_Newbie: what distro version and what firefox version?
[01:28] <barspi> I hope 5.10 will recognize ALL my notebook's hardware, though. Especially the wifi and touchpad...
[01:28] <apokryphos> janne_Newbie: you probably had backports enabled or something
[01:29] <a_monkey> what do you open a .eapp with again?
[01:29] <csthepoet> how do i get kunbuntu?
[01:29] <jrattner1> synaptic
[01:30] <jrattner1> type kubuntu
[01:30] <jrattner1> :  )
[01:30] <janne_Newbie> my mozilla-firefox 1.0.6-1ubuntu1 and other mark...
[01:30] <csthepoet> thanks
[01:30] <jrattner1> csthepoet, you know where synaptic is?
[01:30] <apokryphos> csthepoet: or just sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[01:30] <janne_Newbie> my distro is 5.04...
[01:30] <SamyG> okey... sorry, but I think I'll need to repeat the question. I've searched documentation and I still haven't found if ubuntu is compatible with SATA hdds... would someone explain me that please?
[01:30] <janne_Newbie> it tries to put version 1.0.7....
[01:30] <janne_Newbie> and i have this time backports
[01:31] <jsubl2> SamyG: works with my sata disk
[01:31] <janne_Newbie> its backports bad?
[01:31] <apokryphos> janne_Newbie: remove the backports/hoary-updates repository from your sources.list, then sudo aptitude purge mozilla-firefox, then sudo aptitude install mozilla-firefox
[01:31] <MachineScrew> apokryphos: I am back
[01:31] <erUSUL> SamyG: it should be compatible. i do not know if you can istall directly to them though
[01:31] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: did you get the correct usplash version?
[01:32] <csthepoet> jrattner1, i looked for it in synaptic and didn't see it
[01:32] <MachineScrew> apokryphos: cpio: ./usr/lib/usplash/usplash-artwork.so: No such file or directory
[01:32] <jrattner1> csthepoet, make sure all your repositories are enabled
[01:32] <SamyG> erUSUL, what do you mean with "directly"?
[01:32] <darklogic> how can i change my default media player from totem to kaffeine
[01:32] <jrattner1> csthepoet, go to settings--> repositories in synaptic
[01:32] <MachineScrew> apokryphos: but it's there so is kubuntu splash
[01:32] <csthepoet> apokryphos, i did that but didn't do anything either
[01:32] <jrattner1> csthepoet, is there a check mark by all them
[01:33] <janne_Newbie> what does that sudo aptitude purge does?
[01:33] <MachineScrew> apokryphos: so what was the repo listing
[01:33] <janne_Newbie> this is new to me....
[01:33] <Chinaman|Food> hi crimsun
[01:33] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: pastebin your sources.list, and we'll see
[01:33] <MachineScrew> pastenbin what
[01:33] <Chinaman|Food> still need help with alsa
[01:33] <apokryphos> csthepoet: did what, sorry?
[01:33] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: your /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:33] <erUSUL> SamyG: i do not know if the install cd can install ubuntu /boot or / in the sata drive
[01:34] <janne_Newbie> what does that sudo aptitude purge does?
[01:34] <MachineScrew> apokryphos: ok what would be the full line
[01:34] <janne_Newbie> this is new to me....
[01:34] <crimsun> Chinaman|Food, ok
[01:34] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: unless you're sure you don't have the 17 usplash anymore
[01:34] <csthepoet> jrattner1, i didnt see any boxes to check
[01:34] <Chinaman|Food> i've gotten to selection screen
[01:34] <crimsun> Chinaman|Food, did you follow the directions that were sent to you?
[01:34] <janne_Newbie> never heard about command like it...
[01:34] <Chinaman|Food> and i don't see the ca0106
[01:34] <csthepoet> apokryphos, nevermind that
[01:34] <crimsun> Chinaman|Food, what do you see instead?
[01:34] <Chinaman|Food> is it possible that i don't have unversal repositories?
[01:34] <jrattner1> csthepoet, they are all checked?
[01:34] <MachineScrew> no I have 18
[01:34] <MachineScrew> now
[01:35] <MachineScrew> just did another upgrade
[01:35] <crimsun> Chinaman|Food, the command would have failed if you didn't have universe enabled
[01:35] <SamyG> erUSUL: and in that case, what should I do?
[01:35] <Chinaman|Food> dummy, seq dummy, virmidi, loopback
[01:35] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: remove the extra repositories, and install breezy's usplash
[01:35] <Chinaman|Food> ad1816a
[01:35] <MachineScrew> apokryphos: i did it is
[01:35] <Chinaman|Food> ad1848
[01:35] <crimsun> Chinaman|Food, you don't see it under 'c'?
[01:35] <Chinaman|Food> ali5451
[01:35] <apokryphos> !info usplash breezy
[01:35] <ubotu> usplash: (Userspace bootsplash utility), section misc, is optional. Version: 0.1-10 (breezy), Packaged size: 28 kB, Installed size: 144 kB
[01:35] <Chinaman|Food> c?
[01:35] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: check that; looks like you didn't
[01:36] <crimsun> Chinaman|Food, the name of the driver is 'ca0106'
[01:36] <csthepoet> jrattner1, i got it thanks
[01:36] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list and we'll see, anyhow
[01:36] <jrattner1> csthepoet, sounds good
[01:36] <MachineScrew> apokryphos: I only have updates main update list
[01:36] <Chinaman|Food> uh...i'm at the configuring alsa-source screen
[01:36] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: ?
[01:36] <crimsun> Chinaman|Food, yes, where you need to pick a driver using the space bar
[01:36] <D1> what do you guys think of the new breezy splash screen?
[01:36] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: pastebin it... really
[01:36] <Chinaman|Food> yeah
[01:36] <crimsun> Chinaman|Food, the driver is named ca0106
[01:36] <Chinaman|Food> ther's no ca0106
[01:37] <RockyBurt> anyone have a suggestion on which webcam to get to use with my ubuntu install with least amount of resistance?
[01:37] <Chinaman|Food> wait
[01:37] <Chinaman|Food> just a sec
[01:37] <MachineScrew> ok
[01:37] <Chinaman|Food> now i do
[01:38] <MachineScrew> apokryphos: what would be the line just replace archive.ubuntu.com
[01:39] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: copy the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list, and paste it onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl -- once you've done that, press "send" and produce the URL here
[01:40] <MachineScrew> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2680
[01:40] <abimael_sesshoum> @hotmail.com
[01:41] <erUSUL> SamG: try to install and see if it fails and why
[01:42] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: comment-out the breezy-updates and all the backports below
[01:42] <SamyG> erUSUL, okey, thank you very much
[01:42] <crimsun> jrattner1, it would have been more polite to ask.
[01:42] <crimsun> :)
[01:42] <SamyG> see ya!
[01:42] <MachineScrew> apokryphos: ok done
[01:42] <jrattner1> crimsun, i wasnt sure if you were a bot to be honest, I was just curious
[01:43] <moparfan90> hello
[01:43] <IanG> hello to you too
[01:43] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: if you're sure you did all that, then sudo aptitude purge usplash && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install usplash
[01:45] <MachineScrew> apokryphos: still getting 18
[01:45] <moparfan90> i have a game called torcs and its in applications -> debian ->games     but sometimes the debian tab is there and other times its not. how do i get it to always be there?
[01:45] <MachineScrew> apokryphos: Setting up usplash (0.1-18)
[01:45] <MachineScrew> i did a copy past of what you said
[01:46] <MachineScrew> apokryphos: I did damn it
[01:46] <MachineScrew> apokryphos: at the top right
[01:47] <apokryphos> top-right? Eh?
[01:48] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: pastebin your new current sources.list, then, or just post it in #flood
[01:48] <leonik> i need massive help on getting my windows system back
[01:48] <leonik> i instaleld winddows on 50 gigs of my hdd
[01:48] <leonik> and then i just installed breezy on the other 100
[01:48] <leonik> it didnt ask me if i want to do a dual os system
[01:49] <leonik> and now im stuck always booting into ubuntu which isnt a bad thing but i cant play my win games right now
[01:49] <apokryphos> it does, but anyway...
[01:49] <apokryphos> !tell leonik about grub
[01:49] <MachineScrew> apokryphos: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2682
[01:49] <leonik> fantastic
[01:50] <leonik> so when do i press escape at startup?
[01:50] <MachineScrew> apokryphos: my girlfriend has 16
[01:50] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: and you definitely ran that whole command?
[01:50] <leonik> or wait how do i edit the menu.lst?
[01:50] <leonik> where is that located?
[01:50] <leonik> nm
[01:50] <leonik> nm
[01:51] <MachineScrew> apokryphos
[01:51] <apokryphos> hi
[01:51] <RockyBurt> is it possible to install a new ttf font without restarting X (or even logging out of X) ?
[01:51] <RockyBurt> (using ubuntu breezy)
[01:51] <leonik> ahhh i dont have grub!
[01:51] <ubuntu> Live-CD
[01:51] <IanG> Annoying new install problem from newbie coming over from the dark side: i can ping www.google.com ok, but can't browse unless i key ip address.  help?  be gentle, i'm a quick learner but new to linux.  Thanks
[01:51] <ubuntu> Yes
[01:51] <kent> RockyBurt, just put them in .fonts in home-dir.
[01:51] <MadpilotPPC> !fonts
[01:51] <ubotu> fonts is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[01:51] <RockyBurt> kent: they don't seem to get picked up
[01:51] <MadpilotPPC> RockyBurt, see ubotu above ^^^
[01:51] <ubuntu> do you remember the name of  the mounting fix script
[01:52] <MachineScrew> apokryphos: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2683
[01:52] <kent> RockyBurt, strange :(
[01:52] <MachineScrew> apokryphos: and her works
[01:52] <leonik> i just used synaptic to get grub but it didnt make the menu.lst file
[01:52] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: well, you could just grab her .deb and install that if it does
[01:53] <MachineScrew> apokryphos: she is getting 18
[01:53] <ubuntu> enyone remember's  the name of  the script that kixes mounting point ??
[01:53] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: I thought you said she had 16?
[01:53] <ubuntu> mac_mount fix somthing ...
[01:53] <MachineScrew> apokryphos: she is doing an update
[01:53] <MachineScrew> apokryphos: right now
[01:54] <jason> hi can anyone help my
[01:54] <ubuntu> ??
[01:54] <jcarr> godammit
[01:54] <doc_> ?
[01:54] <kent> RockyBurt, it should work automaticly, so perhaps you should file a bug about it?
[01:54] <jcarr> mark my words ubuntu, YOU WILL PAY!
[01:54] <jason> the icon for gaim is not showing up on then top panle thingy
[01:54] <ubuntu> PAY 4 WHAT ?
[01:54] <jason> i accidently removed it
[01:54] <jason> and cant get it back
[01:54] <jcarr> ubuntu: you gave me a BROKEN LINUX!
[01:55] <MadpilotPPC> jcarr, you gonig to ask an actual queston, or just rant?
[01:55] <MadpilotPPC> *going
[01:55] <ubuntu> lol, i'm just en ubuntu Live-CD user ......
[01:55] <jason> I ASKED A QUESTION
[01:55] <jason> ANSWER MINE
[01:55] <doc_> Anyone know how good the Breezy pre release is? Should I bother changing from hoary on a new install? updates would be nice but broken stuff sucks... any opintion?
[01:55] <jcarr> every linux I have installed ran smoothly, but Ubuntu... things have been going wrong left and right!
[01:55] <ubuntu> :} lollllllllllllllllllll
[01:55] <jcarr> gnome term: doesn't work
[01:55] <jcarr> firefox: locks up
[01:55] <tristanmike> jason, slow down with the caps
[01:55] <jcarr> xine: freezes up!
[01:55] <jason> sorry
[01:55] <ubuntu> hheheheh DUDE I"M NOT UBUNTU OFFICIAL !!!! CAPISH ? "}
[01:55] <jcarr> interface unresponsive
[01:56] <D1> never had any of those problems, weird.
[01:56] <misterdiff> ok, i'm extremely tired
[01:56] <jcarr> Kubuntu: locks up and cannot click on anything in the kicker
[01:56] <jcarr> ubuntu, this is your fault
[01:56] <Dalkus> jcarr, actually I'd say it's yours
[01:56] <Dalkus> because it works fine over here
[01:56] <jason> the gaim icon isnt in the top panle cause i accidently removed it how do i get it back
[01:56] <jcarr> ubuntu: and rest assured... YOU WILL PAY!
[01:56] <ubuntu> FO YOU HAVE A GUN ???
[01:56] <apokryphos> ubuntu: alright, no shouting please
[01:56] <amep> And it works fine on 3 machines here.
[01:56] <apokryphos> ubuntu: #ubuntu-offtopic for general chatter
[01:57] <ubuntu> SHOOT ME ME :}
[01:57] <jcarr> why does gnome-term lock up on me
[01:57] <ubuntu> or STFUP !
[01:57] <D1> seriously, even my mom doesn't have that much trouble using ubuntu.
[01:57] <D1> runs great on her pc
[01:57] <jason> the gaim icon isnt in the top panle cause i accidently removed it how do i get it back
[01:57] <jcarr> it starts, there is a big whitebar where the scrollbar should be, and firefox locks up
[01:57] <jcarr> WHY!?
[01:57] <ubuntu> hehehe
[01:57] <jrattner1> I can feel it in the air
[01:57] <JDigital> how odd
[01:57] <jcarr> FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, WHY!?
[01:57] <JDigital> did you try restarting
[01:57] <jcarr> TELL ME WHY!!! or BAN ME!
[01:57] <misterdiff> everytime i launch openoffice2 it crashes the entire system. i'd like to just re-download the packages but whenever i remove it and try to reinstall it with the synaptic package manager it just installs a package directly from the hard drive
[01:57] <misterdiff> how can i get around this
[01:57] <jason> the gaim icon isnt in the top panle cause i accidently removed it how do i get it back
[01:57] <tristanmike> lol
[01:57] <JDigital> I know "restart" isn't a very linux way to fix things
[01:57] <jason> ANSWER PLEASE
[01:58] <amep> jason: I'm work on something for you.
[01:58] <jason> oh thank you
[01:58] <apokryphos> jason: no need to shout :)
[01:58] <tristanmike> jason, that should be a setting in the "plugins" settings of your preferences, and you don't need to use caps
[01:58] <screevo2> Hi, anyone know how to get rid of the rapid beeping by alsa on Startup when you install nForce 2 drivers?
[01:58] <moparfan90> helo
[01:58] <tristanmike> jason, a plugin for system tray
[01:58] <jason> i have tried that and it doesnt work
[01:58] <screevo2> It's driving me nuts whenever I reboot (which admittedly isnt often)
[01:59] <tristanmike> jason, did you remove it, then reinstall it?
[01:59] <jason> gaim or the plugin
[01:59] <amep> Jason: warty? or breezy?
[01:59] <jason> im realy new to this what is warty or breezy
[01:59] <tristanmike> jason, it's the release name for your copy of Ubuntu
[02:00] <screevo2> Warty is a previous version of Ubuntu, Breezy is the upcoming version
[02:00] <jason> well i guess its warty
[02:00] <MadpilotPPC> Hoary is the current version
[02:00] <screevo2> Warty Warthog, Breezy Badger. The current version, 5.0.4 is Hoary Hedgehog
[02:00] <jason> cause its not the upcoming version
[02:00] <tristanmike> jason, and Hoary is another, that is the current one
[02:00] <screevo2> er, 5.04
[02:00] <intangible> you can refer to the version number if that's easier, 4.10, 5.04, 5,10
[02:00] <jason> im using horay
[02:01] <jason> hoary 5.o4
[02:01] <moparfan90> its 5.04 not 5.o4
[02:01] <jason> thats what i meant
[02:01] <amep> Sorry I should have said Hoary/ breezy. That's what I ment.
[02:01] <jason> oh ok
[02:02] <ali4728> Help hey guys I cant login to my ubuntu (Error :Your session only lasted less than 10 seconds. ) On ly failsafe terminal allowed how can I fix this?
[02:02] <MadpilotPPC> ali4728, do you get an error about .ICEauthority?
[02:02] <amep> jason: So you are missing the tray icon for Gaim (in the upper right part of the screen)? Or the launcher in the menus?
[02:03] <jason> the try icon
[02:03] <ali4728> MadpilotPPC, (~/.xsession-error file)
[02:03] <ali4728> MadpilotPPC, there is some installation problem or that you maybe out of disk space.
[02:04] <MadpilotPPC> ali4728, OK, that's different from the error I've had... not sure what your error means
[02:04] <amep> jason: check in the preferences for Gaim (main gaim window > Tools > Preferences). Select plugins on the left pane.
[02:05] <ali4728> I did alot of program installation (for mail server) as sudo and when I rebooted I got this problem
[02:05] <jason> i didn that and it doesnt work
[02:05] <timmow> Hi how is everyone? I have found a good cover getter for muine if anyone is interested
[02:05] <KvaZi> Hi! :D
[02:05] <amep> jason: So you enabled the system tray plugin and it still doesn't show up?
[02:05] <jason> still doesnt show up
[02:06] <amep> jason:  Have you restarted gaim since you enabled it? That might help.
[02:06] <jrattner1> jason, it doesnt appear in the system tray unless you are away
[02:07] <jrattner1> jason it iconifies it when you are away
[02:07] <JDigital> I'm not away and GAIM is still next to myclock
[02:07] <amep> jrattner1: That is not my experience with Gaim.
[02:07] <leonik> when i install grub it doesnt create a menu.lst
[02:07] <jrattner1> amep, what version are you using
[02:07] <leonik> im using breezy and i installed in synaptic
[02:07] <jason> WEL I REINTALLED GAIM AND IT STILL DIDNT WORK
[02:07] <jason> oops sorry about hte caps
[02:08] <misterdiff> everytime i launch openoffice2 it crashes the entire system. i'd like to just re-download the packages but whenever i remove it and try to reinstall it with the synaptic package manager it just installs a package directly from the hard drive
[02:08] <misterdiff> how can i get around this
[02:08] <KvaZi> Which version of ubuntu should i get, guys? I'm seeing 3 on the website
[02:08] <amep> jason: if you don't have any important configuration or logs in gaim, delete the .gaim directory from your home directory. That will reset the config. I can walk you through the delete if you need it.
[02:09] <intangible> you could try removing all your gaim settings and then see if you still have the problem after starting it again
[02:09] <P229> jason: have you restarted X since the problem with gaim started?
[02:09] <jason> yeah please walk me thought that
[02:09] <amep> jrattner1: both 1.1.4 and 1.5.0
[02:09] <timmow> how about a purge of the applications?
[02:09] <KvaZi> .....
[02:09] <jrattner1> amep, yeh im on 1.1.4
[02:09] <P229> jason: through restarting X?
[02:10] <misterdiff> when ubuntu downloads packages, what directory does it download to?
[02:10] <amep> jason: it will be easier on terminal. Are you comfortable with that?
[02:10] <P229> oh
[02:10] <ali4728> help I cant logon to my Ubuntu I got this Error message http://pastebin.com/379215 ant help?
[02:10] <jason> yeah terminal is ok
[02:10] <morale> ali4728, look at your ~/.xsession-errors file
[02:10] <jason> restarting didnt do anything
[02:11] <amep> misterdiff: /var/cache/apt/archives
[02:11] <ali4728> morale, I can not find that file
[02:11] <amep> jason: OK, go to terminal and type "ls ~/.gaim"
[02:11] <morale> did you make changes to your .xinitrc?
[02:11] <P229> jason: then you might try what amep suggested and delete your gaim directory
[02:12] <jason> yeah i am
[02:12] <jason> now what
[02:12] <peersoft> question:
[02:12] <peersoft> im trying ot burn the kubuntu iso to CD
[02:12] <amep> jason: you should get something like "accel accounts.xml" and a few other files. This is just to make sure we don't delete the wrong thing.
[02:12] <peersoft> but nero 6 sint doing it
[02:12] <peersoft> it is burning the image
[02:12] <shekhar> can someone help me with metacity window manager?
[02:12] <peersoft> not the data in it
[02:12] <peersoft> for a bootable
[02:12] <jason> yeah thast is what i got
[02:12] <P229> jason: looks like amep is walking you through it
[02:12] <jason> yup
[02:13] <jason> now what
[02:13] <peersoft> can anyone help me?
[02:13] <IanG> help. i can ping www.google.com ok on new 5.10 install, but can't browse web unless i key ip address.  be gentle, i'm a quick learner but new to linux.  Thanks
[02:14] <amep> jason: then exit Gaim (if you havn't) and run "rm -ri ~/.gaim". You will need to ok a bunch of deletes by pressing y. If anything looks odd hit ctrl-C so that nothing bad gets deleted.
[02:14] <morale> try to connect via an non-existant proxy?
[02:14] <amep> jason: sorry I type slow.
[02:14] <Spudchat> hi everyone
[02:14] <misterdiff> amep, what'll happen if i delete all of those file in that dir?
[02:14] <doc_> is apt-get dist-upgrade supposed to take me from Hoary to Breezy or no?? I ran it but it still says Hoary....
[02:15] <cevizoglu> can someone explain what the battery-monitor stats mean? (not in the manpage): here is an example: 1126396887 88 1 2005/09/11 00:01:27 -1
[02:15] <jason> uh i get this...
[02:15] <jason> rm: descend into directory `/home/jason/.gaim'?
[02:15] <timmow> doc_: have you change all the entries in /etc/apt/source.list to breezy?
[02:15] <amep> misterdiff: It'd might be OK. But "sudo apt-get clean" will do it for you the "right way". I think synaptic has a command for this too.
[02:15] <kent> doc_, you need to change the system to fetch from Breezy and not Hoary. Either change it in synaptic, or manually by editing /etc/apt/sources.list  (change hoary to breezy)
[02:15] <cevizoglu> oh, sorry I meant battery-log
[02:16] <amep> jason: say y. it is asking if it can move into the directory to do the recursive delete.
[02:16] <jason> ooh ok
[02:16] <timmow> easy wat sed '/hoary/breezy/g' -ri /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:16] <doc_> kent / timmow , no I didnt change it... when I do so, apt-get dist-upgrade will do it?
[02:16] <jason> type y for all?
[02:17] <misterdiff> amep, what about the packages that come from the cd. are they stored locally somewhere or not
[02:17] <ali4728> morale, how can I find this file (~/.xsession-errors)
[02:17] <cevizoglu> nm, I will just use battery-graph
[02:17] <amep> jason: yes pretty much. just make sure it isn't deleting all your docs or save games. ;-)
[02:17] <_jason> jason:  nice name
[02:17] <Em`Zee> Is there anyone here who can help me debug a custom-built kernel (2.6.11-OpenMosix) that's panicking?
[02:18] <jason> thakn you
[02:18] <doc_> timmow, sed: can't find label for jump to `reezy/g'
[02:18] <jason> alright its all gone
[02:18] <jason> i hit y for all
[02:18] <amep> misterdiff: They are copied to the disk during the initial install and maybe at other times. I'm not sure. But they would be in the same place AFAIK. And would be cleaned.
[02:19] <amep> jason: I hope that will fix it for you.
[02:19] <jason> amep: so now i hust reinstall it
[02:19] <Em`Zee> I'm getting a "modprobe: FATAL: Error inserting unix (/lib/modules/2.6.11-om/kernel/net/unix/unix.ko): Invalid module format" about 20 times
[02:19] <Em`Zee> then a kernel panic and system halt
[02:19] <Em`Zee> and a whole bunch of messages saying my modules don't exist in /proc/modules
[02:19] <amep> jason: No just restart it. You deleted your user local config. The install will be unaffected.
[02:20] <amep> jason: restart Gaim. Not the computer.
[02:20] <cevizoglu> what is the name of the battery applet?  mine crashed on my powerbook after today's minor upgrade in breezy
[02:20] <jason> ok
[02:20] <moparfan90> jason, did it work?
[02:21] <jason> amep: god damnit no it didnt work
[02:21] <IanG> is my question too boring / am i not using irc correctly?
[02:21] <amep> cevizoglu: package name or name in the applet selector? It's Battery Charge Applet in the selector.
[02:22] <amep> Jason: maybe the tray itself crashed. It is an applet.
[02:22] <cevizoglu> amep, the name with which I would launch it in the terminal to try to make it come up again
[02:22] <_jason> IanG:  what's your question?
[02:22] <jason> well then hwo do i fix it
[02:23] <Chinaman|Food> can anyone help me with ALSA?
[02:23] <timmow> doc_: sorry this is what you need  sed 's/hoary/breezy/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:24] <amep> jason: right click the panel. Select add to panel. Scroll down and select Notication Area. Click Add.
[02:24] <IanG> thanks _jason,  help. i can ping www.google.com ok on new 5.10 install, but can't browse web unless i key ip address.  be gentle, i'm a quick learner but new to linux.  Thanks
[02:24] <timmow> then apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:24] <doc_> timmow, and apt-get dist-upgrade will be just as good as a cd rom install then? or are there problems usualy.. ?
[02:24] <cevizoglu> amep, nevermind, I just added it to the panel again... now it seems to work
[02:25] <moparfan90> whats that area called thats next to the clock and shows the update icon??
[02:25] <amep> cevizoglu: Cool. I don't know so I'm glad it worked.
[02:25] <moparfan90> if i had toadd that again?
[02:25] <timmow> doc_: I did a dist-upgrade.  I can't say it is good as a cd rom install but it did the job for me
[02:25] <jason> IT WORKED
[02:25] <jason> YAY
[02:25] <doc_> timmow, cool I'll give it a shot thanks..
[02:25] <amep> jason: Great!
[02:25] <boxerboy29> i miss ubuntu instalation :(
[02:25] <jason> YAY
[02:25] <jason> THANK YOU
[02:25] <jason> I LOVE YOU
[02:26] <timmow> doc_ : if you are uncomfortable it may need some tweaking, but it keeps any tweaking you did
[02:26] <zer0`> moparfan90: notification area
[02:26] <amep> jason: you yell alot.
[02:26] <redon2> what video players come with hoary by default?
[02:26] <_jason> redon2:  totem
[02:26] <jason> sorry im just excited
[02:26] <moparfan90> thanks
[02:26] <amep> jason: I'm glad I'm loved though.
[02:26] <redon2> just that one?
[02:26] <timmow> doc_: it should be  sed 's/hoary/breezy/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:26] <timmow>  -ri
[02:26] <_jason> redon2:  that's all I can see on my menu at least
[02:26] <timmow> -ri on the end
[02:26] <redon2> cool, thanks.
[02:27] <redon2> and how about audio?
[02:27] <peersoft> why isnt my ISO burning as ISO and not the data within the ISO?!
[02:27] <Chinaman> can anyone help me with ALSA?
[02:27] <amep> cevizoglu: Did it crash after the upgrade but before you relogged in/rebooted? Gnome apps have issues after the libs/data change sometimes. Just my experience.
[02:27] <jason> yeah i got some more questions
[02:27] <_jason> redon2:  rythmbox
[02:28] <jason> uh about mplayer thingy
[02:28] <leonik> i cannot get grub to install
[02:28] <jason> why does it suck so much
[02:28] <Screevo> Chinaman: I'm having alsa issues too. Whats your problem?
[02:28] <leonik> it doesnt create the menu.lst
[02:28] <boxerboy29> peersoft: what are you using to burn the iso?
[02:28] <leonik> and im sol without it
[02:28] <_jason> jason: what do you mean by suck?
[02:28] <cevizoglu> amep, it crashed, and when I rebooted it was still gone.  but I've got it back now
[02:28] <doc_> ahh! hehehee thought it'd be a smaller download this way :P
[02:28] <Chinaman> i just did this: sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r) alsa-source && cd /usr/src && sudo tar xfj alsa-driver.tar.bz2 && sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-source && cd modules/alsa-driver && sudo debian/rules binary_modules KSRC=/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build KVERS=$(uname -r) && sudo dpkg -i ../alsa-modules*.deb
[02:28] <jason> i cant watch videos
[02:28] <jason> it loads and then stops
[02:28] <Chinaman> picked my card to install
[02:28] <Chinaman> and i don't know wehre to go from there
[02:29] <Chinaman> i'm in terminal right now
[02:29] <_jason> jason: have you changed the config file for esd sound?
[02:29] <leonik> !tell grub
[02:29] <jason> ...uh no?
[02:29] <jason> i dont think so
[02:29] <Screevo> Hm. Thats little bit above my head. If you by any chance had an nForce2 card, I could help
[02:29] <amep> cevizoglu: It prolly just crashed cause of the upgrade. Then got dropped from the panel config.
[02:29] <Screevo> or, nForce2 onboard sound
[02:29] <_jason> jason: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto?highlight=%28mplayer%29
[02:29] <Em`Zee> Anyone here able to help me with my problems with my custom 2.6.11-OpenMosix kernel?
[02:29] <Em`Zee> =/
[02:29] <jason> ok
[02:29] <Em`Zee> No one I know builds their own =P
[02:30] <doc_> Em`Zee, whats wrong?
[02:30] <_jason> jason: after that you may also want to install the w32codecs, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?highlight=%28restricted%29 for that
[02:31] <jason> what are those
[02:31] <doc_> jason(s): The link there never worked for me (or was it that its not in the multiverse stuff like it said?) anyways xine's website links to w32codecs....
[02:31] <_jason> the w32codecs let you play wmv files quicktime files... a bunch of stuff
[02:32] <alexandros> hey, can anyone tell me if hoary extras is still up I am confuse the forum said that removed the old backports expect the hoary extras, but I updated my sources it could not connect. if it is still around do anone know its new address, thank you.
[02:32] <timmow> im pretty sure hoary extras has been moved
[02:34] <Chambers-> hey guys, how do i set synaptic not to uninstall a broken package?
[02:34] <Chambers-> it's the latest klibido, breezy has an older version and i found a newer one on Debian's site
[02:34] <boxerboy29> ubuntu=based on debian   debian other than installer debian is much damn hard to install packages :(
[02:34] <Chambers-> i force installed it and everything works fine
[02:35] <cevizoglu> Chambers-, or so it would seem...
[02:35] <Chambers-> but now when i want to install something through synaptic it wants to uninstall klibido
[02:35] <Chambers-> well whatever, i'm running it on a test system atm
[02:35] <majikstreet> is it just me or does klibido sound wrong?
[02:35] <cevizoglu> Chambers-, because it's interfering with the other packages
[02:35] <Chambers-> so how to i force it to keep the package?
[02:36] <cevizoglu> Chambers-, it's having trouble with it for exactly the same reason you had to force install it in the first place
[02:36] <Chambers-> it's a great news leecher program, the one on breezy won't get group lists and doesn't do nzb files, the latest one does
[02:36] <cevizoglu> Chambers-, eventually you might break apt-get completely
[02:37] <Chambers-> cevizoglu: but i don't care what kind of trouble it has with it, i don't want it to uninstall it :p
[02:37] <Chambers-> this is a vmware machine, i don't care
[02:37] <Chambers-> i'm using it to test out programs that i like so i can get a list together for when i switch and make it my main desktop
[02:38] <cevizoglu> Chambers-, if you don't care, you could try uninstalling it, installing your synaptic packages, then installing klibido again
[02:38] <IanG> oh well, thanks for listening
[02:38] <Chambers-> really?  so there's no way to tell synaptic to ignore it?
[02:38] <Chambers-> damn
[02:38] <Chinaman> darn
[02:38] <cevizoglu> Chambers-, not that I know of, but there might be
[02:38] <sexcopter8000m> i think there is if you use apt-get
[02:40] <cevizoglu> Chambers-, you might try looking into the -m option for apt-get, ignores missing packages.
[02:40] <cevizoglu> Chambers-, man apt-get to look into your options
[02:41] <cevizoglu> Chambers-, and -s will show you what it would try to do without actually doing it, so you can test what it will do
[02:41] <Chambers-> ahh cool, thanks cevizoglu !
[02:42] <synic> anyone have an ipod nano
[02:42] <synic> ?
[02:42] <RockyBurt> well... i think i'm gonna make another attempt at using Evolution in place of thunderbird since i haven't used evolution yet with gnome 2.12
[02:42] <cevizoglu> !tell synic about ipod
[02:43] <boxerboy29> thumbs up or down for netinstall?
[02:44] <boxerboy29> hi greg
[02:44] <boxerboy29> what were u looking for?
[02:44] <greg> hi
[02:45] <boxerboy29> virus scanner?
[02:45] <greg> yes do i need one
[02:45] <Chinaman> virus scanner?
[02:45] <Chinaman> linux?
[02:45] <boxerboy29> with ubuntu if you use synaptic you have a few choices
[02:45] <greg> im an xp user but wiped xp now im hear
[02:46] <boxerboy29> i will tell you they are really not needed in linux
[02:46] <greg> linux ubuntu
[02:46] <Chinaman> i only have firestarter (firewall)
[02:46] <Chinaman> yes...everyone here has ubuntu
[02:46] <Chinaman> hence the channel name
[02:46] <xabx> anyone have an estimated date on when 5.10 comes out?
[02:46] <cevizoglu> Chinaman, hopefully  :)
[02:46] <boxerboy29> its in the "a" section i cant think of name off top of head
[02:46] <Chinaman> lol
[02:46] <cevizoglu> xabx, oct. 13th
[02:46] <Chinaman> aye
[02:46] <xabx> thanks.
[02:47] <boxerboy29> most if not all viruses for linux are in mail nothing attacks files that i know of
[02:47] <greg> ok thanx boxerboy
[02:47] <boxerboy29> yw
[02:47] <cevizoglu> boxerboy29, huh, you've seen virii for linux?
[02:47] <csthepoet> hey anyone here own a tivo and likes to transfer shows to their comp?
[02:48] <greg> brb
[02:48] <MadpilotPPC> Apparently there have been exactly two LInux viruses spotted 'in the wild'...
[02:48] <boxerboy29> no i havent but there have been worms written for linux
[02:48] <Chambers-> cevizoglu: is there a way to request they put the latest klibido into the breezy universe?
[02:48] <boxerboy29> they are what i call rare
[02:48] <cesarin> hullo!! ^_____________^
[02:48] <Chinaman> bah, 2 viruses...no probs
[02:48] <boxerboy29> most ppl use winodws so thats why windows hass alot and linux has very few
[02:48] <cevizoglu> Chambers-, I don't know...
[02:49] <Chinaman> i've been using linux a lot more these days and windows now seems almost foreign to me
[02:49] <cesarin> anyone can remind me how to unlock the update-download directory of synaptic?
[02:49] <cesarin> I keep getting this:
[02:49] <xabx> you should still protect your system with a virii scanner or something more than an out of the box firewall.
[02:49] <MadpilotPPC> boxerboy29, Linux also handles files differently, and permissions, etc
[02:49] <cevizoglu> Chinaman, I hear, you, Mac is starting to feel like an old OS to me
[02:49] <boxerboy29> true
[02:49] <cesarin> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Recurso no disponible temporalmente)
[02:49] <cesarin> E: No se ha podido bloquear el directorio de descargas
[02:49] <MadpilotPPC> anyway, must go. real-world calling...
[02:49] <Chinaman> cesarin: are you spanish?
[02:49] <boxerboy29> root
[02:49] <csthepoet> Any Tivo users in the house?
[02:50] <cesarin> Chinaman, nope. Mexican
[02:50] <sproingie> "a virii scanner"?
[02:50] <Chinaman> hmm
[02:50] <cevizoglu> !tell cesarin about spanish
[02:50] <boxerboy29> thats not in english but if i had to guess it means u dont have privelages
[02:50] <sproingie> does that scan for corny neologisms like "virii"?
[02:50] <cesarin> been quite usual here since I installed ubuntu
[02:50] <xabx> sproingie: obviously.
[02:50] <Knelix> Guys, is there an easy way to invoke the screen saver at any time (like hot corners or a key combination)?
[02:50] <boxerboy29> mac is changing :(
[02:50] <cesarin> cevizoglu, im not dumb, I know english, so how about if you let me ask here insteath of just pushing me away
[02:51] <boxerboy29> the g6 will have intel
[02:51] <sproingie> i take two buses to work, or as i like to call 'em, bii
[02:51] <Chinaman> bah, it needs AMD
[02:51] <cesarin> anyway the error clearly says in english "could not get lock"
[02:51] <Chinaman> anyone know how to get j2sdk to work on ubu?
[02:51] <Knelix> boxerboy29: It's even doubtful if it will be called a G6.
[02:51] <cesarin> fux, wishing cafuego_ was here
[02:51] <cevizoglu> cesarin, could not get lock means the file is being accessed by another process
[02:51] <Chinaman> should be a P6
[02:51] <cesarin> cevizoglu,  I have nothing else running
[02:52] <Chinaman> P for Pentium
[02:52] <boxerboy29> it will use same as it does now just with an intel prcessor
[02:52] <cesarin> cevizoglu, I've had that error in breezy before, but there was an op here who helped me to "unlock" it
[02:52] <Chinaman> Intel should be like Creative (which skipped Audigy 3 and went to Audigy 4) and just go to Pentium 6
[02:52] <sproingie> cesarin: if you're sure nothing else like aptitude, synaptic, apt-get, whatever is using it, just delete that file
[02:52] <boxerboy29> are u running more than 1 apt session?
[02:52] <Chinaman> their dual-cores are essentially P5's
[02:53] <cesarin> sproingie, nothing else is running like I said.
[02:53] <cevizoglu> sproingie, what are you talking about?  virii is plural for virus
[02:53] <cesarin> just synaptic's update manager
[02:53] <Agrajag> no it's not.
[02:53] <Em`Zee> Can anyone here help me with my problem?
[02:53] <Knelix> boxerboy29: Yes, but it was named a "G5" for the CPU, the new CPUs won't have these designations. Anyway, try channel macosx on this server.
[02:53] <Agrajag> Go look in a dictionary.
[02:53] <boxerboy29> ive been wanting a g5 but no luck finding one for less that 1000
[02:53] <sproingie> cevizoglu: no it's not.  it might be the plural of "virius" if such a word existed
[02:53] <Agrajag> the plural of virus is viruses
[02:54] <cesarin> virii isjust l33t for my tastes :P
[02:54] <sproingie> cevizoglu: nobody in the industry except peple wanting to put on some faux-intellectual airs uses the term "virii"
[02:54] <Chinaman> LOL
[02:54] <cevizoglu> oh, my mistake, I was thinking fungii
[02:54] <cevizoglu> er, fungi
[02:54] <cesarin> bah, should have written the goodamn command to "lock" the file manually -_-
[02:54] <Knelix> Can I setup a hotkey or corner to launch the screen saver in Gnome?
[02:54] <eruin> *puh*, finally brought synaptic translation status above 50% ;)
[02:55] <cevizoglu> I never get to talk about viruses, because I haven't gotten one on my machine since 1989
[02:55] <cesarin> eruin,  want a hug for your amazing work? :P
[02:55] <jason> hi
[02:55] <jason>  i need to install win32 codecs for mplayer
[02:55] <PsyBort> morning all, is someone here knowledgeable in how to install a d-link g650+ wireless card/.
[02:55] <cevizoglu> :P
[02:55] <eruin> cevizoglu, how about a slag in the face and an erotic massage? :P
[02:55] <Chinaman> ...it's morning already?
[02:56] <sproingie> i get 'em on my machines all the time.  of course part of my job is to go out and find 'em
[02:56] <cevizoglu> eruin, no thanks
[02:56] <PsyBort> 10.56 am
[02:56] <jason>  i need to install win32 codecs for mplayer
[02:56] <jason> how
[02:56] <cesarin> jason,  http://www.giannaros.org/tor/bt/
[02:56] <jason> thank you
[02:56] <PsyBort> has someone got a link for me... ive been all over the world and still am lost.
[02:56] <cesarin> and its a .deb package, so you can use dpkg -i blablabla.deb
[02:56] <Leshrac> !tell jason about codecs
[02:56] <sproingie> moparfan90: thanks for sharing
[02:56] <cesarin> PsyBort,  link for wha?
[02:57] <PsyBort> i need help installing a wireless card for ubuntu distro
[02:57] <cesarin> and PsyBort : you need to get used to failing man, a lot of hardware arent supported because they lick Microsoft's shoes
[02:57] <moparfan90> jason, do you know how to download a torrent file?
[02:57] <jason> not a clue
[02:57] <cesarin> like ATI ( wich just recently strrted to give drivers.. )
[02:57] <Leshrac> PsyBort : I know how to make my belkin one work, not sure if the same would work for yours
[02:57] <cesarin> and CANON ( wich most of their scanners have the therm of WINSCANNERS, just like winmodems had )
[02:57] <moparfan90> ok download that file and double click it then OK
[02:58] <PsyBort> i kno.. which is why i like the challange, but i dont wanna to have a mid life crisis either which is why im turning to u ppl for help.
[02:58] <cesarin> jason: ubuntu by default has a "BITORRENT" client
[02:58] <jason> alright
[02:58] <moparfan90> sucks
[02:58] <cesarin> you just download, double click and let it download
[02:58] <cesarin> its like a p2p, but sometimes faster
[02:58] <jason> i downloaded it
[02:58] <jason> now what
[02:58] <moparfan90> open
[02:58] <PsyBort> ive been stuck with this problrm for the last 7 weeks. i feel like crying. nothing seems to be working in my favour..
[02:59] <moparfan90> the 'OK'
[02:59] <moparfan90> then*
[02:59] <PsyBort> is there anyone out there that can help me, except for god.
[02:59] <Chinaman> how do i install azureus?
[02:59] <jason> its askign me to save it
[02:59] <cesarin> Chinaman,  synaptic's multiverse?
[02:59] <cesarin> jason: do it
[02:59] <jason> to where
[02:59] <cesarin> save it
[02:59] <jason> anywhere?>
[02:59] <cesarin> anywhere, doesnt matter
[02:59] <Leshrac> PsyBort have you tried looking for your card in the ndiswrapper list?
[02:59] <cesarin> as long you can easily go to that directory
[02:59] <PsyBort> yes..
[03:00] <Leshrac> is it there?
[03:00] <jason> k
[03:00] <PsyBort> for some reason ndiswrapper keeps returning me erros
[03:00] <cesarin> psy: tried reinstalling? o_O
[03:00] <xabx> madwifi?
[03:00] <Chinaman> i need jre
[03:00] <jason> woah itys takes liek 20 min
[03:00] <Leshrac> are you using the correct windows driver?
[03:00] <cesarin> jason: it sometimes will take more, sometimes less
[03:00] <PsyBort> it was a pain the first itme
[03:00] <cesarin> depends on how many "SOURCES" are there
[03:00] <PsyBort> time
[03:00] <Chinaman> azureus:
[03:00] <Chinaman>  Depends: sun-j2sdk1.5  but it is not installable or
[03:00] <Chinaman>  	java2-runtime  but it is not installable
[03:00] <dell500> is there an possible way to have dual monitors (gnome) with 2 different resolutions, such as 1152x864 and 1024x768??
[03:01] <Chinaman> where do i get j2sdk?
[03:01] <cesarin> chinaman: sun's java is installable with the synaptic's "Multiverse" repositories
[03:01] <Chinaman> and how do i install it?
[03:01] <Chinaman> hmm
[03:01] <cesarin> you need to find the "non free" repository
[03:01] <cesarin> give me a  min
[03:01] <Chinaman> uh...where wouldthat be
[03:01] <Chinaman> k
[03:01] <Leshrac> PsyBort have you made sure that you have the .sys ile in the same directory as the .inf file?
[03:01] <cesarin> Chinaman, you're on breezy?
[03:02] <Chinaman> hoary
[03:02] <cesarin> then I dont know if its the same...
[03:02] <PsyBort> leshrac, not sure, more info pls.
[03:03] <cesarin> Chinaman,  give me a min, I need to find my "repository" list
[03:03] <greg__> <<<new ubuntu user
[03:03] <Chinaman> cesarin: sure
[03:03] <cosimo321> topic
[03:03] <cosimo321> Hello all
[03:04] <greg__> downloding files and opening them diff from xp
[03:04] <cesarin> Chinaman,  open your synaptic
[03:04] <greg__> how do i run them
[03:04] <Chinaman> opened
[03:04] <Leshrac> PsyBort : at wich point do you get the errors with ndiswrapper?
[03:05] <cesarin> greg__,  I think you need to learn the basic that downloading .exe files doesnt mean it will run it :P
[03:05] <cosimo321> OK I have a comment and question
[03:05] <cosimo321> First Ubuntu is beginning tosuck
[03:05] <cesarin> Chinaman,  now go to configuration and then on repositories
[03:05] <cosimo321>  I am finding out that these guys have been trying to propriortize this system
[03:05] <Chinaman> yeah
[03:05] <mmiikkee12> can i install ubuntu without actually burning a cd?
[03:05] <cesarin> Chinaman,  then click on "Show desactivated software origins"
[03:06] <cesarin> usually the top version
[03:06] <cesarin> the top choice I mean
[03:06] <Chinaman> yeah
[03:06] <cosimo321> Basic lyinix commands can be used but they incorporate virtual links even when log on as root
[03:06] <cosimo321> This is crap
[03:06] <cesarin> Chinaman, did you activated them?
[03:06] <Chinaman> yeah, it's checked
[03:06] <cesarin> Chinaman, ok then get out of there
[03:07] <cosimo321>  having siad that, I want to instal two packages that are now sitting in my root folder and my home folder. Have to exite xserver to do this but none of the commqands finds the directories or files
[03:07] <cesarin> and see if the repositories have been chosed (activated )
[03:07] <cesarin> they should have a green thingie in the lil box of each repository
[03:07] <cesarin> cosimo321,  one error I always had
[03:07] <Chinaman> azureus:
[03:07] <Chinaman>  Depends: sun-j2sdk1.5  but it is not installable or
[03:07] <Chinaman>  	java2-runtime  but it is not installable
[03:07] <cesarin> CD.. doesnt work
[03:07] <cesarin> cd .. works :P
[03:08] <cosimo321> Java is installable
[03:08] <cesarin> Chinaman,  you should have at least like.. 6 repositories there
[03:08] <cesarin> that means 6 diferent choices
[03:08] <Chinaman> 13
[03:08] <cesarin> you got 13? ok
[03:08] <cosimo321> click add then check both unchecked boxes for each of the listings
[03:08] <cesarin> check if you have the "multiverse no free software"
[03:09] <Chinaman> got it
[03:09] <cosimo321> all the gryed out apps will now be available
[03:09] <cesarin> Chinaman,  ok, then get out of there and click on "SEARCH"
[03:09] <cosimo321> NO no search just click add
[03:09] <cosimo321> then check the two unchecked boxes
[03:09] <Chinaman> yes
[03:09] <cesarin> cosimo321,  can you stop annoying? Im giving him instructions of HOW I installed it :O
[03:09] <cesarin> Chinaman, you need to find the JAVA package first, then double click on them to enable them
[03:10] <greg__> what i had conected to xp windows, like my video camera , how do i install drivers to make it work . or is that not avaiable to me know ?
[03:10] <cosimo321> if you are using UBuntu then just add it is simple
[03:10] <cesarin> then you press "APPLY" so synaptic downloads and installs the package
[03:10] <cesarin> then try installing azureus
[03:10] <cosimo321> Anyway, anyone know how to get around the virtual links in ubuntu when Xserver  quits?
[03:10] <cesarin> Chinaman, note that some updates needs restart the "X" engine, others reboot, and others nothing :O
[03:10] <dm> Someone please help
[03:10] <Chinaman> um...
[03:11] <cesarin> Chinaman, found the java packages?
[03:11] <Chinaman> which package do i download?
[03:11] <cesarin> Chinaman,  the j2s
[03:11] <cesarin> usually the "non free sun java"
[03:11] <dm> Does anyone know how to enable the boot log again, warning i am a total Linux noob, and somehow im trapped in linux, i cant boot to windows xp again
[03:11] <cesarin> unless you dont want programing, dont get the SDK
[03:11] <cosimo321> type init 9
[03:11] <jrattner1> dm good for you stay out of windows : )
[03:11] <cesarin> Chinaman,  let me see the file
[03:12] <dm> where do i type that?
[03:12] <Chinaman> which file?
[03:12] <cosimo321>  are you in command line?
[03:12] <dm> Well i would stay out of windows if i knew what the hell i was doing
[03:12] <Chinaman> i need programming, so i do need sdk
[03:12] <dm> no, im a total noob in linux im sorry !
[03:12] <Chinaman> same here dm
[03:12] <cosimo321> are there just words on the screen?
[03:12] <dm> how do i open a command line
[03:12] <cesarin> Chinaman, j2re 1.4
[03:12] <dm> no
[03:12] <dm> im in the UI
[03:13] <cesarin> blackdown runtime
[03:13] <dm> shell or whatever
[03:13] <cosimo321> the gui?
[03:13] <dm> yes
[03:13] <Chinaman> didn't find anything
[03:13] <cosimo321> go to the terminal
[03:13] <cesarin> blackdown Java(tm) runtime
[03:13] <cesarin> Chinaman,  search for J2re
[03:13] <dm> ok terminal open
[03:13] <dm> i think...
[03:13] <cosimo321> what do want to do now again?
[03:13] <Chinaman> nothing
[03:13] <cesarin> Chinaman, weird.. :/
[03:13] <dm> i typed init 9 and it says i must be a superuser
[03:13] <cesarin> I have installed like that -_-
[03:14] <cosimo321> d try init 3
[03:14] <cesarin> dm,  use "SUDO" before the command for super user
[03:14] <Chinaman> how do i do it with blackdown?
[03:14] <dm> same thing
[03:14] <cosimo321> sorry init 1 make sure there is a space after the init
[03:14] <cesarin> Chinaman, blackdown is Sun's java :P
[03:14] <Chinaman> well at least i can find it
[03:14] <cesarin> search for "blackdown", maybe it will appear that way
[03:14] <Chinaman> i downloaded that already
[03:14] <dm> init everything says i must be a superuser
[03:14] <cesarin> what the name of the blackdown package?
[03:14] <cesarin> dm,  "sudo init 9"
[03:14] <cosimo321> do you have a root password
[03:15] <Chinaman> nope, can't find blackdown
[03:15] <dm> suok typed sudo init 9 and typed in my PW, now what?
[03:15] <cesarin> Chinaman, this is getting weirder
[03:15] <dm> it didnt have any errors or anything
[03:15] <Chinaman> i don't think i have all my repositories correct
[03:15] <cosimo321> hit enter
[03:15] <dm> did
[03:15] <cesarin> Chinaman,  you have a "ADD APPLICATION" menu in your Gnome ?
[03:15] <dm> went to next command line
[03:15] <mmiikkee12> can i install ubuntu without actually burning a cd?
[03:15] <dm> am i good to go
[03:15] <dm> ?
[03:16] <cosimo321> try init 9
[03:16] <cosimo321> or 3
[03:16] <cosimo321>  or 1
[03:16] <Chinaman> yeah
[03:16] <cesarin> mmiikkee12, I think you can but only "networked", never tried myself
[03:16] <dm> iniall say i have to be a superuser
[03:16] <cosimo321> damn ubuntu!!
[03:17] <cosimo321>  these are typical linux commands, should workj but they have screwed up the command line in ubuntu
[03:17] <cesarin> Chinaman,  you got that "ADD APPLICATION" menu on your gnome linebar?
[03:17] <Chinaman> it's in my applications -> system tools
[03:17] <dm> i did sudo init 9 and it asked for PW, i typed it in, and it enter, then it went to next command line like i was about to type a new one
[03:17] <Chinaman> add/delete applications
[03:17] <cesarin> ok click there
[03:17] <_jason> cesarin,  Chinaman, have you updated apt-get?
[03:18] <dm> Anyway i can access the boot loader in the GUI?
[03:18] <dm> i did once, but now its not there
[03:18] <cosimo321> init 9 3 or 1 will reboot, stop all se4vices etc
[03:18] <cesarin> _jason,  Im all up to date, not sure about Chinaman
[03:18] <cosimo321> th it should have just restarted
[03:18] <dm> hmm
[03:18] <mmiikkee12> no, no net access either :(
[03:18] <_jason> cesarin,  that's what I meant, I haven't been foloowing the whole thing
[03:18] <cosimo321> did you start the root login for yourself not the user login
[03:18] <cesarin> cosimo, control + alt + del goes into "level 6" and reboots in this version I mean
[03:18] <Chinaman> i'm up to date
[03:18] <cosimo321> what version?
[03:18] <dm> what?
[03:18] <cesarin> chinaman, well inside the add and remove programs, search for "JAVA"
[03:19] <dm> ubuntu breezy badger
[03:19] <cesarin> it should appear as "JAVA WEB START 1.4"
[03:19] <_jason> Chinaman,  if you added repos you have to run apt-get update
[03:19] <dm> the only linux i could get running
[03:19] <dm> im dual booting, but need to get back to windows
[03:19] <cosimo321> I am using breezy right now and those commands work for me. I also started toe root logon
[03:19] <dm> and somehow i cant...
[03:19] <loku> help anybody: my totem player play only the first av....dat. how can i play the dat files on my vcd?
[03:19] <cesarin> _jason: forgot to tell him that duuh.
[03:19] <dm> whats that mean???
[03:19] <Chinaman> hmm
[03:19] <cesarin> Chinaman, every time you add a new repository, you need to "update" the file list of each repository
[03:19] <Juul> hi, is there an easy way of getting a development environment installed in ubuntu? i mean, has someone compiled a list of all the packages you need to apt-get (include files, gcc, make, etc.) ?
[03:19] <dm> root login, user login , i have no idea what that means, i am sorry i am a noob to linux
[03:20] <Chinaman> updated and still nothing
[03:20] <cesarin> china, tried searching on the add/remove ?
[03:20] <Chinaman> yeah
[03:20] <Chinaman> nothing there
[03:20] <cesarin> because when in breezy, I didnt had the correct repository, even when I Searched about it, but forcing it to "download" from the add applitacions menu, made ubuntu to load the correct repository
[03:21] <cesarin> Chinaman, thats weird man, I swear :/
[03:21] <dm> cosimo any idea on my problem?
[03:21] <Chinaman> can i use someone else's repository?
[03:21] <Chinaman> sources.list i mean
[03:21] <loku> hello pls. please help me about totem media player
[03:21] <cesarin> hmm, if you remind me where is sources.list I can tell you easily :D
[03:21] <cesarin> just been 1 week and half with ubuntu myself, and Im a die hard winbloze users, so sometimes I forget :P
[03:21] <Chinaman> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:22] <dracflamloc> hey guys, i have an amd64, any way to get the fan speed to slow down in ubuntu?
[03:22] <cesarin> I dont like gedit, I prefer nano :P
[03:22] <Chinaman> :P
[03:22] <pat> Hi. Just installed Ubuntu on our pc and sound works in windows but not in ubuntu. Any advice?
[03:22] <Chinaman> :-P
[03:22] <Chinaman> pat: same here
[03:22] <cesarin> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy multiverse
[03:22] <cesarin>  <-- add this in your sources.list chinaman
[03:23] <cesarin> that one should have the file
[03:23] <cosimo321> OK go to system then  administration then log in screen set up
[03:23] <Chinaman> but i'm on hoary
[03:23] <cosimo321> Hit the security tab and check all ow troot to login with GDM
[03:23] <cesarin> Chinaman: -_-
[03:23] <cosimo321> root not troot
[03:23] <dm> ok, its loadin
[03:23] <FatDarrel> Chinaman, come on upgrade man
[03:23] <cosimo321> close
[03:23] <cosimo321> hold on
[03:24] <cesarin> _jason,  does the breezy files work on hoary?
[03:24] <Chinaman> meh
[03:24] <dm> didnt load... hmm
[03:24] <loku> anybody, i have totem player. they play d vcd but only the 1st dat files?
[03:24] <major_payne> if I want to upgrade from warty to hoary do I just change all instances of warty in sources.list to hoary?
[03:24] <_jason> cesarin,  idk
[03:24] <cesarin> _jason,  idk?
[03:25] <cesarin> ohh, you dont know lol
[03:25] <_jason> cesarin,  i don't know... I am on hoary but haven't tried any breezy files
[03:25] <dm> cosimo , i tried to load it but it never came up
[03:25] <cesarin> Chinaman,  you can try, but not sure if that will work :(
[03:25] <cosimo321> in terminal tyyp sudo passwd root
[03:25] <cesarin> _jason,  can you give the multiverse non-free repositories to chinaman?
[03:25] <cosimo321> you should be able to input a root password there
[03:26] <dm> enter new unix password..
[03:26] <_jason> cesarin,  what repo did you try?
[03:26] <cosimo321> what your security
[03:26] <dm> ?
[03:26] <dm> what
[03:26] <cesarin> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy multiverse
[03:26] <cosimo321> what didn't show up?
[03:26] <cesarin> that one _jason
[03:26] <shekhar> can someone help me with metacity sessions and login problems?
[03:26] <cosimo321> tht s right enter new unix password
[03:26] <cosimo321> then enter it again
[03:27] <cosimo321> then you can go to logon screen and enter as root
[03:27] <_jason> cesarin,  Chinaman, deb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ hoary java
[03:27] <cosimo321>  however don't go on thei nternet with this account
[03:27] <cesarin> aa there ya ho :D
[03:27] <major_payne> if I want to upgrade from warty to hoary do I just change all instances of warty in sources.list to hoary?
[03:27] <cesarin> Chinaman,  open synaptic, go to repositories
[03:27] <cesarin> then click on "ADD"
[03:28] <dm> i typed something in by accident, there a way to reset the PW
[03:28] <cesarin> then type "personalized"
[03:28] <cosimo321> yes hold on
[03:28] <Chinaman> w00t
[03:28] <cesarin> and then write what _jason  said
[03:28] <cesarin> Chinaman, got it?
[03:29] <dm> can i stay on chat while im logging off
[03:29] <cesarin> ( I think I killed Chinaman ) :/
[03:29] <Chinaman> wait
[03:29] <Chinaman> i'm alive
[03:29] <cesarin> yay!, ok, now get me some chinese food ;P
[03:29] <kycz> hey guys... anybody knows how to manually install Dlink PCI wlan?
[03:29] <cosimo321> start the sudo passwd root again
[03:30] <Chinaman> Depends: libc6 (>=2.3.4-1) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14 is to be installed
[03:30] <Chinaman> ...
[03:30] <hubsi> whats the name of this ipod software for linux?
[03:30] <dm> updated now
[03:30] <cesarin> Chinaman, these lib files are easy to find, download them :>
[03:30] <dm> now what
[03:30] <cesarin> Chinaman, these lib are mostly "default" thing :o
[03:30] <Xappe> dm: you can do like me. run irssi in scren on a remote computer
[03:30] <Chinaman> i can't find 2.3.4
[03:30] <cosimo321> when you log in type root as the user and then the new password
[03:30] <sexcopter8000m> is there a package for shockwave, or should i get it from the site?
[03:30] <Xappe> *screen
[03:30] <cesarin> Chinaman, you dont need that exact version
[03:30] <cosimo321>  as I said DON"T GO ON THE INTERNET in this account
[03:30] <dm> i dont have a remote computer
[03:30] <Chinaman> ubuntu server only has what i have now
[03:31] <_jason> Chinaman:  what package are you trying to isntall
[03:31] <cosimo321> ?? remote?
[03:31] <dm> ok
[03:31] <Chinaman> uh...the thing is that it won't install without that exact version
[03:31] <Chinaman> j2re and j2sdk
[03:31] <cesarin> Chinaman, that number is "THE MINIMUM" version :P
[03:31] <dm> can i stay logged into chat when i log off
[03:31] <kycz> ping
[03:31] <kycz> !ping
[03:31] <ugo> whats the package name of the development manpages?
[03:31] <ubotu> Keep your fingers to yourself, kycz.
[03:31] <cesarin> Chinaman, lies, I downloaded a more updated versions of the lib files, and it works
[03:31] <ugo> i need to check up on pthreads
[03:31] <kycz> ooops
[03:31] <ugo> ?
[03:31] <cesarin> well at least for me :P
[03:31] <Chinaman> where do i get newer versions of libc6
[03:31] <ugo> hello?
[03:31] <cesarin> synaptic
[03:31] <dm> linux is amazing, but it is so hard to just "learn " it
[03:31] <cesarin> just search for "libc6"
[03:31] <Chinaman> i did
[03:32] <Chinaman> i only got what i have now
[03:32] <cosimo321> go on internet and look for unoficial Ubutntu starter guide it is for 5.04 but most of the commands are good
[03:32] <Chinaman> already
[03:32] <cevizoglu> dm, but it's worth it
[03:32] <cesarin> Chinaman,  then reinstall, its weird that it doesnt accept your availiable lib files
[03:32] <dm> so what do i do now to get back to windows ?
[03:32] <cesarin> I mean reinstall the lib files
[03:32] <cosimo321> cesarin can I interupt for a momnet?
[03:32] <cesarin> cosimo321,  yes?
[03:32] <Chinaman> bah...lemme see if j2sdk 1.5 works
[03:33] <Chinaman> muhuhuhuha
[03:33] <cosimo321> what is cinamon trying to install here?
[03:33] <cesarin> cinamon? o_O
[03:33] <Chinaman> java sdk
[03:33] <cosimo321> chinaman
[03:33] <Chinaman> lol
[03:33] <cesarin> he's triying to install JAVA package
[03:33] <cosimo321> what vbersion of ubuntu are you using?
[03:33] <richard1> Hello, Could someone please tell me how to turn on autoupdates on release 5.01
[03:33] <cesarin> wich weirdly didnt appear correctly on his synaptic
[03:33] <Chinaman> 5.0.4
[03:33] <cosimo321> Have you tried the breezy
[03:33] <ugo> hello? anyone know the packages that provide developer docs?
[03:34] <cosimo321> OK go into add apps
[03:34] <cesarin> ugo: all "developer" and sometimes "SDK" packages contains the docs
[03:34] <cosimo321> tell me what you see
[03:34] <kycz> how come the LiveCD detected my wlan but Hoary could not auto-detect it
[03:34] <dm> who me?
[03:34] <dm> or china
[03:34] <cosimo321> china
[03:35] <Chinaman> i see no java
[03:35] <[LethAL] > kycz, afaik more drivers are bundled onto the Live CD
[03:35] <dm> really quick, what do i do to go back to windows? just go to the root login, and try init 9?
[03:35] <cosimo321> do you have a settings button?
[03:35] <PsyBort> does anyone here where i can find the pdf guide on ubuntu?
[03:35] <Chinaman> no?
[03:35] <kycz> can I apt get dwl 520+ from somewhere? or any generic drivers???
[03:35] <cosimo321> at the top?
[03:35] <cesarin> Chinaman,  tried searching for them inside? the addapps?
[03:36] <[LethAL] > kycz, wiki.ubuntu.com
[03:36] <cesarin> it should be inside "INTERNET"
[03:36] <cosimo321> but?can you get to the repositories list?
[03:36] <Chinaman> no veo nada
[03:36] <cesarin> pues guey, te lo juro que no se :P
[03:36] <PsyBort> is there a manual i can d.l on ubunta?
[03:36] <ugo> so pthreads is not installed by default
[03:36] <cosimo321> yes look for unoficial bubntu starter guide on the internet
[03:36] <Chinaman> psybort: ubuntuguide.org
[03:37] <cesarin> !tell chinaman about ubuntuguide
[03:37] <cosimo321> or that
[03:37] <dm> really quick, what do i do to go back to windows? just go to the root login, and try init 9?
[03:37] <cesarin> wiki's is way better
[03:37] <cosimo321> chinaman can you ugrade to breezy?
[03:37] <Chinaman> i'd have to burn another CD
[03:37] <cesarin> dm: you cna try control + alt + del just in windows
[03:37] <cesarin> it will send the termination signal to everything
[03:37] <cosimo321> init 9 I believe is the restart
[03:37] <Chinaman> i'm just gonna try j2sdk1.5 first
[03:37] <dracflamloc> any way to not have my cpu fan going 100% all the time
[03:37] <Chinaman> if that works then i won't bother upgrading
[03:37] <dracflamloc> ?
[03:37] <cosimo321> or that
[03:38] <cesarin> or if you're in "X", you can just system -> finish session"
[03:38] <cosimo321> breezy is better more options especiall for applications
[03:38] <Chinaman> i'll upgrade in 11 days
[03:38] <Chinaman> :P
[03:38] <wweasel> Hey guys, I am having a problem with WiFi.  I recently got a new laptop and WiFi acts weird. Sometimes it gives me normal high speed, sometimes it takes a good 30 seconds to load a page, sometimes it ping timeouts.  Yet, I am always recieving a good signal.  And it works perfectly when wired to the web.  Any ideas?
[03:38] <shekhar> can someone help me with metacity sessions and login problems?
[03:38] !lilo:*! Miscellaneous channel notes: we've started an unofficial support and discussion channel for grsecurity; please stop by ##grsecurity .... ##hurricane has now moved to ##earth (billed as "freenode's observation channel for Earth and vicinity" and including global weather and climate, earthquakes, tsunamis, vulcanism, pollution, space weather and big rocks heading in our general direction :) again, you're all invited!
[03:39] <cesarin> dm,  got it?
[03:39] <cosimo321> casn someone help me with install the nvidia drivers?
[03:39] <dm> I cant boot to windows, it doesnt give me an option
[03:39] <dm> no ces, :(
[03:39] <cevizoglu> wweasel, with ndiswrapper?
[03:39] <cesarin> dm,  dont tell me you forgot to install GRUB 1.5 ?
[03:39] <cosimo321> somthihng wrong with boot loader
[03:39] <dm> i did install it
[03:39] <dm> i just cant find the sob :P
[03:39] <cesarin> cosimo321,  you have to tell your friend DM how to edit the grub's 1.5 list
[03:40] <cesarin> dm, edit the file in  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:40] <cosimo321> are you able to boot from usb?
[03:40] <cesarin> but be careful, you better read about grub in wiki's
[03:40] <dm> umm
[03:40] <wweasel> cevizoglu: No, MadWifi, it's a linux driver for my Atheros 5004X wifi card
[03:40] <cosimo321> well gotta go guys can't get my wquestions answered here
[03:40] <dm> isnt there a grub prog i can run
[03:40] <dm> *sigh
[03:40] <cesarin> dm, nope... you have to edit that list..
[03:40] <dm> ok where do i get that list
[03:40] <cesarin> dm,  I had that error a few ago, and editing it made the problem go away
[03:40] <cesarin> dm, I told you already
[03:41] <joniak99> hey got few questions how do i burn avi files onto dvd
[03:41] <cesarin> dm,  its inside /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:41] <cesarin> use "sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[03:41] <dm>  its set to read only?
[03:41] <cesarin> thats why you use the "SUDO" and put your ROOT password there
[03:41] <wweasel> joniak99: what program are you using to burn. or is wthat what you are asking about
[03:42] <wweasel> cevizoglu: still there?
[03:42] <cesarin> remember sudo lets you get "ROOT" access
[03:42] <dm> gotcha
[03:42] <dm> what line do i need to edit
[03:42] <cevizoglu> wweasel, sorry, I don't know about that driver/card
[03:42] <joniak99> i am actualy looking for the program, someone told me that there is a website explaining this but i've been googling like crazy
[03:42] <cesarin> dm: you see all the text right?
[03:42] <dm> yes
[03:42] <cesarin> go to the end of the file
[03:42] <mahangu> heya
[03:42] <wweasel> cevizoglu: do you recommend i try ndiswrapper?
[03:42] <mahangu> morning guys
[03:43] <dm> ok im there
[03:43] <mahangu> im just wonderng why xmms hangs everytime i try to play an mp3
[03:43] <joniak99> wweasel: its more avi and divx files
[03:43] <cesarin> dm: how many hard disks you have? and how many partitions?
[03:43] <cevizoglu> wweasel, by all means no
[03:43] <shekhar> help
[03:43] <mahangu> gxine plays DVDs just fine so i know m soundcard is ok
[03:43] <dm> 3
[03:43] <mahangu> anbody?
[03:43] <dm> Winxp is part 2
[03:43] <cesarin> 3 hdds ?
[03:43] <Chinaman> ok...installed j2sdk 1.5
[03:43] <dm> 3 partitions
[03:43] <cesarin> linux is partition 1?
[03:43] <dm> linux is partition 3
[03:43] <cesarin> whats on partition 1?
[03:43] <Chinaman> now i can't find azureus in repository
[03:43] <mahangu> how can i kill a process?
[03:43] <dm> 54 megs of drivers
[03:43] <RockyBurt> hm, does anyone know if inotify is activated in default breezy kernels?
[03:44] <mahangu> where do i find out the PID
[03:44] <wweasel> joniak99: well, you need a program to burn dvds. I use K3B personally
[03:44] <BiggieSmalls> is there any way to install the linux-nvidia 7676 drivers in breezy?
[03:44] <BiggieSmalls> or nvidia-glx drivers
[03:44] <ZBlach> hi
[03:44] <cesarin> Chinaman, I swear your hoary is sabotaging you lol
[03:45] <cesarin> dm: ok give me a min to find the guide to see the name of your partitions
[03:45] <dm> ok
[03:45] <ZBlach> Recently, I got a new router. Now, I'm unable to connect using my ubuntu installation. I'm using Ndiswrapper, and I've configured it according to half a dozen online manuals. Any tips on connecting?
[03:45] <cesarin> dm you're on hoary or on breezy?
[03:46] <Chinaman> lol
[03:46] <dm> breezy
[03:46] <bb> Can someone offer a suggestion for helping me get my ISA AWE32 Sound Card working in Hoary?
[03:46] <shekhar> help
[03:46] <cesarin> ok
[03:46] <_jason> Chinaman:  you have hoary-extras enabled?
[03:46] <Chinaman> help, need alsa to work with audigy2
[03:46] <Chinaman> o.0
[03:46] <Chinaman> what are those?
[03:46] <cesarin> dm, type at the end the followingf
[03:46] <ZBlach> Chinaman, have you used alsamixer? I've had the same problem before
[03:46] <cesarin> tittle Windows XP
[03:47] <cesarin> root (hd0,1)
[03:47] <dm> ok.
[03:47] <dm> done
[03:47] <cesarin> makeactive
[03:47] <wweasel> Hey guys, I am having a problem with WiFi.  I recently got a new laptop and WiFi acts weird. Sometimes it gives me normal high speed, sometimes it takes a good 30 seconds to load a page, sometimes it ping timeouts.  Yet, I am always recieving a good signal.  And it works perfectly when wired to the web.  Any ideas?
[03:47] <cesarin> chainloader +1
[03:47] <_jason> Chinaman:  it is the repo that has azureus
[03:47] <cesarin> dm: everything I wrote
[03:47] <j2k4b> Can you completely delete Windows before installing Ubuntu?
[03:47] <Chinaman> hmm
[03:48] <ZBlach> j2k4b, not recommended, but yes
[03:48] <BiggieSmalls> is there any way to install the linux-nvidia 7676 drivers or nvidia-glx drivers in breezy?
[03:48] <cesarin> dm: you got it all? remember you have to write it perfectly, if not, the grub will fail
[03:48] <_jason> Chinaman:  deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[03:48] <wweasel> Could someone help me please? I am really struggling with this wifi problem.
[03:48] <dm> sec,
[03:48] <cesarin> dm,  ok
[03:48] <mahangu> wweasel, what's the laptop?
[03:48] <_jason> Chinaman:  enable those and you should see azureus, I just found it
[03:48] <ZBlach> I'm not entirely sure which router I'm using.
[03:48] <j2k4b> I hate M$ with a passion.
[03:48] <mahangu> guys, any ideas about my sound problem?
[03:48] <bb> Where would I start with adding a new soundcard to my Hoary Installation?
[03:49] <wweasel> mahangu: Toshiba Satalite A70, with a Atheros 5004X wifi card
[03:49] <ZBlach> any idea why I can't connect to my router? iwconfig reports a 99/100 connection
[03:49] <dm> i have two windows xps i have one that says # this entry automatically added by the debian installer. Do i need to type it on that one?
[03:49] <Chinaman> yay thx
[03:49] <cmatheson> hey guys, i'm trying to set up tvout on my nvidia geforce2 (just a tv, no monitor), but it keeps dying saying 'screen(s) found, but no useable configuration'--how can i find out what the problem really is?
[03:50] <dm> i have two windows xps i have one that says # this entry automatically added by the debian installer. Do i need to type it on that one?
[03:50] <cesarin> dm: if you have a windowsXP one that says almost the same as I told you, then remove the #
[03:50] <cesarin> dm,  the # makes it to appear as "COMMENT" and ignored by grub.
[03:50] <cesarin> dm,  so removing it should fix that issue
[03:51] <cesarin> dm, remember that "makeactive" setting,will make grub boot that one by default
[03:51] <mahangu> wweasel, what's your card chipset? did you compile drivers or did ubuntu find them?
[03:51] <Chinaman> i got azureus now
[03:51] <shekhar> can someone help me?
[03:51] <dm> ok if this works how do i get back to linux?
[03:51] <cesarin> Chinaman, congrats, you owe me a donut now :P
[03:51] <Chinaman> problem is that it doesn't work
[03:51] <ZBlach> shekhar, state your problem
[03:51] <cesarin> lol
[03:51] <cesarin> Chinaman,  I repeat, you're sabotaged :P
[03:52] <Chinaman> stab
[03:52] <ZBlach> and if no one can help, no one'll answer
[03:52] <wweasel> mahangu: I compiled my drivers, but it does the same if I use ndiswrapper and the windows drivers.
[03:52] <dm> ok if this works how do i get back to linux?
[03:52] <cesarin> dm,  got it everything?
[03:52] <dm> yes
[03:52] <shekhar> ZBlach:  when i choose logout from system menu in gnome, instead of restarting or shutting down, it just saves the session, even if the save session box is not ticked
[03:52] <cesarin> dm, ok, then save it, and then close your session and restart your computer :>
[03:52] <mahangu> wweasel, i had this problem on my earlier laptop, with a usb wifi card
[03:53] <shekhar> ZBlach:  this is a major pain, it only does what i want if i do it a second time
[03:53] <Chinaman> gonna go back into winxp
[03:53] <mahangu> on my thinkpad r50e, it's alright now
[03:53] <dm> stupid question, where is the save button
[03:53] <ZBlach> shekhar, oh yeah. that stuff happens. dunno why, but if its not important...
[03:53] <dm> lol...
[03:53] <mahangu> but earlier my connection dropped
[03:53] <mahangu> never really found a fix
[03:53] <mahangu> move closer to AP?
[03:53] <shekhar> ZBlach:  it's a major problem
[03:53] <cesarin> dm: what are you using?
[03:53] <cesarin> dm,  gedit or nano?
[03:53] <dm> nano
[03:53] <wweasel> mahangu: i get a fabulous connection. it just randomly works poorly
[03:53] <ZBlach> shekhar, no clue. I had that problem once. and then, suddenly, it went away
[03:54] <mahangu> wweasel, that's what i meant
[03:54] <shekhar> ZBlach:  also metacity often stalls on startup and i have to manually delete the saved sessions in /home/me/.metacity
[03:54] <ZBlach> but my current problem refuses to die
[03:54] <wweasel> mahangu: so how can i fix it?
[03:54] <shekhar> ZBlach:  thanks, but that's not much help :)
[03:54] <cesarin> dm,  you sure you cant see the "SAVE" button?, try to maximize the console
[03:54] <ZBlach> shekhar, wish i could help more, but i'm also pretty noob
[03:54] <mahangu> wweasel, ever tried live cd of another distro? see if it detected your card?
[03:54] <cesarin> dm, by default the SAVE menu is in a small DOS-like menu in the bottom of the console's window
[03:55] <shekhar> can anyone else here help me with this annoying problem?
[03:55] <wweasel> no, i have not.
[03:55] <dm> i can see file edit view, terminal etc..
[03:55] <dm> but under file, no save
[03:55] <BiggieSmalls> does anyone know if there is a way to get the nvidia-glx drivers working in breezy?
[03:55] <dm> writeOut?
[03:55] <cesarin> dm,  no no no , not under file... it should be "SAVE"
[03:55] <ZBlach> shekhar, wait and see, your problem may be solved eventually
[03:55] <ZBlach> i'm still waiting
[03:55] <cesarin> dm,  INSIDE the console, not the console window itself
[03:56] <dm> right
[03:56] <shekhar> ZBlach:  the problem has persisted from hoary to breezy, it's not going away ;)
[03:56] <cesarin> dm,  seen it?
[03:56] <nicholas> if anyone wants to help me, i am so incredibly confused. I installed Ubuntu because I thought it was user-friendly, except I've discovered I have no idea how to install ANY software.
[03:56] <shekhar> can anyone help me?
[03:56] <j2k4b> Question: The hardware in my computer,,, speakers, modem, monitor, etc... Will they all work after installing Ubuntu?
[03:56] <dm> i see get help writeOut Read fiel, prev page, cut text, exit, justify, where is, next page, uncut text, to spell
[03:56] <ZBlach> shekhar, a solution: close all programs before shutting down
[03:56] <cesarin> j2k4b,  depends
[03:56] <wweasel> mahangu: i haven't tried another distro. but i know the drivers aren't standard, they need to be compiled or i need to use ndiswrapper
[03:56] <cesarin> j2k4b, most known brands DO work I think, but a lot of stuff doesnt
[03:57] <cesarin> specially if the company refuses to give opensource drivers :P
[03:57] <shekhar> ZBlach:  there are many workarounds, yes...
[03:57] <nicholas> How do I install software? I am using Synaptic Package Manager
[03:57] <shekhar> ZBlach:  i just want it to work the way it's supposed to
[03:57] <dm> i see get help writeOut Read fiel, prev page, cut text, exit, justify, where is, next page, uncut text, to spell
[03:57] <dm> no SAVE though
[03:57] <nicholas> how do I connect files to install with the Package Manager?
[03:57] <j2k4b> Sound isn't alot just seeing and modem is kewl.
[03:57] <nicholas> is there a Linux installations for beginner's site anywhere?
[03:58] <cesarin> dm: get out of that program, and try GEDIT
[03:58] <mahangu> wweasel, sorry can't help you then. im really just a new convert who's been mucking around
[03:58] <cesarin> dm, that should be easier for you
[03:58] <cesarin> dm, since its weird that there isnt a save button where in my version THERE IS :O
[03:58] <mahangu> wweasel, when it starts to die just do  /etc/inti.d network restart
[03:58] <wweasel> nicholas: the ubuntu install is quite intuitive
[03:58] <funkyHat> this is rather strange:
[03:58] <funkyHat> /usr/share/themes/Clearlooks-CleanEyes/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:71: error: unexpected identifier `menubarstyle', expected character `}'
[03:58] <dm> ok how do i get to gedit from the terminal
[03:58] <dm> and edit that file
[03:58] <wweasel> mahangu: how did you fix it?
[03:58] <cesarin> nicholas, if you lived trought windows98 MSDOS-like first phase installation-like, then you wont have problems with ubuntu
[03:59] <ZBlach> i'm totally clueless. why can't I connect to my router? i have everything setup seemingly correctly, and I can see my network, but I can't connect!
[03:59] <dm> hey nich , how do i open the gedit to edit that boot file
[04:00] <dm> err cesarin i mean lol
[04:00] <j2k4b> Is it easier to install Ubuntu than Win XP?
[04:00] <ZBlach> j2k4b, no
[04:00] <vladuz976> is aptitude supposed to give errors when you start it without sudo or root?
[04:01] <mahangu> wweasel, i didn't, fortunately work gave me a new laptop
[04:01] <cesarin> dm, just change the "NANO" for GEDIT :P
[04:01] <wweasel> mahangu: lol, that doesn't bode well for me then
[04:01] <ZBlach> vladuz976, nothing is ever 'supposed' to give errors. thats why they're errors
[04:01] <mahangu> wweasel, :)
[04:01] <dm> asked me for pw and its hanging now
[04:01] <j2k4b> So basically if you are dumb... Don't do it.
[04:01] <mahangu> try writing to toshiba?
[04:01] <cesarin> dm,  just dont forget the SUDO
[04:02] <mahangu> how do i setmy default sound card in gnome?
[04:02] <dm> i didnt
[04:02] <ZBlach> j2k4b, no, winxp is easy to install and use, breezy is a bit harder to install (a real little bit), but its a bee-yotch to use
[04:02] <dm> its not givingme the window, and no more command line
[04:02] <BiggieSmalls> does anyone know if there is a way to get the nvidia-glx drivers working in breezy?
[04:02] <cesarin> dm,  things are getting worse -_-
[04:02] <vladuz976> ZBlach: true, well in hoary i could start aptitude without sudo and it would then ask me for it. now i have so use it to start aptitude otherwise i get permission errors
[04:03] <ZBlach> all, remember breezy is still _PRE-RELEASE_
[04:03] <cesarin> dm,  open the program manually under your "APPLICATIONS" menu, then open the file inside GEDIT
[04:03] <gnuyen> yeah i accidently installed it
[04:03] <cesarin> its named "TEXT EDITOR"
[04:03] <ZBlach> means, that when its released, 2 weeks from now, we can _still_ expect errors
[04:03] <gnuyen> because it's prominently on the download page
[04:03] <vladuz976> ZBlach: so you are saying that stuff like that and the boot errors ppl have are just gonna disappear if we keep updating it?
[04:03] <wweasel> Ok, thanks mahangu. Anyone else have any ideas? I have random connection problems with WiFi. The connection is good, but pages take forever or sometimes timeout. What can I do?
[04:04] <ZBlach> vladuz976, yeah, we can expect that. thats the beauty of open-source
[04:04] <dm> but i cant edit anything in GEDIT, it wont let me type anything
[04:04] <ZBlach> dm, hit 'i'
[04:04] <dm> this is being a pain in my aSS, and im sure yours
[04:04] <wweasel> dm: you need to open it in root?
[04:04] <Concord_Dawn> how can I check a package's status on the command line?
[04:04] <dm> root login?
[04:04] <wweasel> yes
[04:04] <dm> what
[04:04] <vladuz976> ZBlach: you on hoary still?
[04:05] <dm> hit 'I' did nothing
[04:05] <ZBlach> vladuz976, i'm not using ubuntu. i've given up trying to get it to work
[04:05] <wweasel> type sudo before whatever text editor you are using
[04:05] <wweasel> for example: sudo gedit <whatever text file you want to edit>
[04:05] <dm> i did that, it didnt do anything either
[04:05] <vladuz976> ZBlach: what was wrong? and what are you using now?
[04:05] <mahangu> wweasel, isn't that a wifi specific problem too?
[04:05] <dm> wouldnt open the file, and hung the terminal
[04:05] <wweasel> that is the wifi problem mahangu. i am trying to find out if anyone else has any idea
[04:05] <ZBlach> vladuz976, i'm using winxp on a laptop, while my main comp just takes up space & power.
[04:06] <vladuz976> ZBlach: so why are you on here then?
[04:06] <ZBlach> vladuz976, i'm hoping, maybe, that someday, someone'll might try to help
[04:06] <vladuz976> ZBlach: what is your problem?
[04:07] <dm> WHOA , just got a crapload of errors with my terminal trying to edit the file with GEDIT
[04:07] <mahangu> wweasel, i mean isnt it the same on windows?
[04:07] <bb> Anyone have a hint on setting up an AWE32 AudioCard on Ubuntu/Hoary?
[04:07] <mahangu> wifi is flaky, i use it everyday (forced to), and it sorta sucks at times
[04:07] <ZBlach> can see my network, have ndiswrappered everything correctly, and have setup the network config correctly, but I can't connect to my router/network/modem
[04:07] <wweasel> absolutely not. it is perfect in Windows
[04:07] <G2> 
[04:07] <wweasel> the connection is fine, it is...something else. no idea what
[04:08] <vladuz976> ZBlach: have you posted to the forum?
[04:08] <ZBlach> vladuz976, have not. this seems to be faster.
[04:08] <ZBlach> vladuz976, well...
[04:08] <ZBlach> what is the forum link?
[04:08] <dm> cesarin you still tehre
[04:08] <vladuz976> ZBlach: that is what you would think, but only if there is someone on who feels like helpin you.
[04:08] <j2k4b> Thanks for all your help guys.
[04:08] <funkyHat> can anyone tell me where the gtk2 theme settings are stored?
[04:08] <ZBlach> guess i've just been unlucky the past 4 times
[04:09] <_jason> ZBlach:  www.ubuntuforums.org
[04:09] <vladuz976> ZBlach: i used to only ask on here or other channels and never use forums, but it seems that most of my/your questions are already answered on the forum. just search for it or post. or use mailing lists
[04:09] <d33p> shouldn't there be a vlc package in ubuntu hoary? I'm in hoary and my apt cache doesn't know the package
[04:10] <cesarin> dm, sorry im here
[04:10] <cesarin> was talking on kopete
[04:10] <cesarin> dm,  well, you managed to do it?
[04:10] <dm> no cant edit in GEDIT
[04:10] <wweasel> vladuz976: i have a problem that no one seems to have the answer to. think you could help? my Wifi Connection is good, but the pages sometimes work fine, sometimes take a good 30 secs to load, sometimes ping timeout. no idea why, works fine in windows, works fine when wired.
[04:11] <dm> When i tried to open it in the terminal it came up with Null Fails
[04:12] <dm> im at a loss
[04:12] <dm> cant edit the damn file, and when i can , cant fricken save it
[04:12] <cesarin> dm,  tried opening manually? like I told you?
[04:12] <vladuz976> wweasel: no idea sorry. don't use wifi. same thing. post to the forum and mailing lists. that is what they are therefore.
[04:12] <dm> yes cant edit the file
[04:12] <cesarin> duohhh
[04:12] <d33p> I'm also missing xine-ui package, ???? weird
[04:12] <cesarin> dm, play with the NANO editor, and see if you can find something related to "SAVE"
[04:12] <dm> i saw a write out
[04:12] <dm> is that save?
[04:13] <cesarin> dm,  no idea, I dont have your lenguage, you can try I supose
[04:13] <AngryParsley> ctrl+o is save in nano
[04:13] <vladuz976> ZBlach: see ubuntu has a really large community, sometimes that makes it hard to get help on irc, but it makes the mailing lists and forums more powerful
[04:13] <cesarin> dm,  follow what AngryParsley  says
[04:13] <AngryParsley> ctrl+x will quit but ask if you want to save changes
[04:14] <ZBlach> ok. vladuz976, i've posted.
[04:14] <AngryParsley> gedit has some annoying slowness whenever I add a line to a file or type a line long enough to scroll sideways, so I use nano most of the time
[04:14] <dm> AngryParsly, or Cesarin, If i put in "rootverify" will it pop up and ask what OS to load???
[04:14] <ZBlach> vladuz976,i just think that 400 people looking at every word I type here may be slightly more effective than posting on a forum with everyone else.
[04:15] <bb> Ok, here is a slightly different question: Is there a way ofgetting ubuntu to redetect all ISA hardware on a system without reinstalling?
[04:15] <cesarin> dm,  no idea what rootverify does, but my options DOES NOT HAVE that
[04:15] <AngryParsley> dm: I have no clue
[04:15] <cesarin> dm, and I got 2 hdds, and 3 partitions on the second one
[04:15] <vladuz976> ZBlach: your call, see which one works for you
[04:15] <AngryParsley> I just know the nano shortcuts
[04:15] <ZBlach> vladuz976, so far: neither
[04:15] <dm> What if this fucks up my boot loggin and i loose everything?
[04:15] <dm> is that possible
[04:15] <vladuz976> ZBlach: for how long have you tried?
[04:15] <AngryParsley> it's possible that lightning will strike your computer right now
[04:15] <AngryParsley> but unlikely
[04:16] <aieee> hi can i join
[04:16] <dm> sweet
[04:16] <dm> i actually had that happen once
[04:16] <dm> technically
[04:16] <AngryParsley> I've had lightning hit the power line and kill my hard drive
[04:16] <AngryParsley> and that is how I switched to ubuntu from windows
[04:16] <aieee> hi angeloo
[04:16] <cesarin> dm, dont think so, it will just popup an error, and you can just restart and go back to chose linux
[04:16] <dm> mine killed the powersupply, the power strip, my monitor, mb, and HD :)
[04:16] <AngryParsley> so if you think about it, god wanted me to use ubuntu
[04:17] <cesarin> dm,  and then edit again the grub's list
[04:17] <AngryParsley> and if we're on god's side, who could microsoft be on? hmm!
[04:17] <AngryParsley> *who's side could microsoft be on
[04:17] <DonL> AngryParsley, lol
[04:17] <aieee> can u help with this
[04:17] <dm> oh ok, Going to go try this, Crossing my fingers, thanks for all your help guys, if you dont see me again, it means it worked, THANK YOU EVERYONE, linux community rox
[04:17] <cesarin> I only can tell you that HDD0,0  where first  0 = hdd number, and second zero = partition
[04:17] <AngryParsley> actually I'm an atheist, I'm just too cheap to buy windows again and too lazy to pirate it
[04:17] <cesarin> so.. HDA = HDD0,0
[04:17] <dm> Ill be back to set up my Internal bluetooth and my BT mouse hehe
[04:19] <aieee> does any body  can read my message ??????
[04:19] <cesarin> aieee,  I do?
[04:19] <ZBlach> vladuz976, re: how long have I tried - in two hours, it'll be a week.
[04:19] <aieee> hi cesarin tnx
[04:19] <aieee>  its my first time to use ubuntu
[04:20] <cesarin> aieee, welcome :>
[04:20] <DonL> I have to jump in an tell you folks, after playing around with my failed update from Hoary to Breezy, I finally did something that made it work. All my repositories in Synaptic now show as Hoary, though. Don't know why that happened.
[04:20] <ZBlach> aieee, how you findinf it?
[04:20] <cesarin> aieee,  I installed ubuntu a week ago :>
[04:20] <vladuz976> ZBlach: well, maybe it's time to try something different then
[04:20] <aieee> may i know ur asl cesarin? tnx
[04:20] <aieee> same as mine
[04:20] <cesarin> aieee,  sadly this aint a offtopic talk, just to ask information
[04:20] <ZBlach> vladuz976, winXP perhaps ;)
[04:20] <aieee> ah oki
[04:20] <aieee>  jus t want to know  ur loc ?
[04:21] <aieee> tnx
[04:21] <cesarin> aieee,  Mexico.
[04:21] <linner> !seen thoreauputic
[04:21] <ubotu> thoreauputic <n=prospero@wolax7-195.dialup.optusnet.com.au> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 19h 16m 20s ago, saying: 'ah'.
[04:21] <aieee>  tnx cesarin
[04:21] <ZBlach> !seen Hikaru79
[04:21] <ubotu> hikaru79 <n=hikaru79@d57-4-59.home.cgocable.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 1d 22h 54m 2s ago, saying: 'Does anyone know what package wnck-applet is part of? libwnck18?'.
[04:21] <linner> hello everyon :)
[04:21] <cesarin> I wonder if installing that ubuntu firewall is worth it or just useless for a user like me :o
[04:21] <ZBlach> hi linner
[04:21] <linner> everyone even
[04:22] <linner> ZBlach:  hello :)
[04:22] <DonL> Hi linner
[04:22] <linner> DonL:  hey there ;)
[04:22] <ZBlach> linner, sup homie?
[04:22] <linner> Oh nuttin'...
[04:22] <linner> you?
[04:22] <vladuz976> ZBlach: if you like windows, yeah. use that
[04:22] <ZBlach> vladuz976, don
[04:22] <aieee> but it more faster than the oder software dat i've used cesarin
[04:22] <ZBlach> vladuz976, don't like win, but it works and has great tech support
[04:22] <d33p> in which apt source for ubuntu should the package w32codecs be?
[04:22] <Lord_Athur> hi
[04:23] <cesarin> aieee, whats faster?
[04:23] <vladuz976> ZBlach: which you pay for
[04:23] <aieee>  much faster in connection
[04:23] <concept10> d33p, dont believe that the w32codecs package is in the repos anymore.
[04:23] <cesarin> aa ic
[04:23] <aieee>  coz im using dial up connection
[04:23] <cesarin> concept10, its on a bitorrent site lately
[04:23] <d33p> concept10, so how do I watch files with those codecs?
[04:23] <ZBlach> vladuz976, 4x copies of XP Pro, 2x XP Home, 2x ME, 1x 2000, 2x 98 & 8 shares. MSFT is mine~! ^_^
[04:24] <cesarin> http://www.giannaros.org/tor/bt/ <-- for the win32 codecs
[04:24] <cesarin> and I think its on themultiverse repository too
[04:24] <aieee>  how can i add  some friends here in ubutu cesarin?
[04:24] <tga> w32codecs
[04:24] <cesarin> aieee, add like in what?
[04:25] <Pmancgv> xopa People
[04:25] <tga> ZBlach, win has great tech support? what are you smoking?
[04:26] <Pmancgv> How are you
[04:26] <cesarin> windows great support? what a bad joke :P
[04:26] <aieee> like in yahoo chat  how can i invite my friends ?
[04:26] <BiggieSmalls> does anyone know if there is a wayto get the nvidia glx drivers to work in breezy?
[04:26] <DonL> must go play with my recently recovered system. Bye for now
[04:26] <cesarin> if you install patch, garantee ends.. if you dont install patches, garantee ends.. :P
[04:27] <NeoChaosX> Is there anybody who doesn't get the Ubuntu logo on their menu or menu bar after today's artwork update?
[04:27] <concept10> Anyone know a official statement on why the w32codecs were removed?
[04:27] <cesarin> well I think DM must be in windoze now, I think ill go to windoze too, so I can play some CS source, until I fix the goodamn cedega :P
[04:27] <aieee>  wer can i find it
[04:27] <cesarin> NeoChaosX, never had a ubuntu logo on the menu o_O
[04:27] <ZBlach> tga, I call them, and they fix it. thats great tech support
[04:28] <ZBlach> unlike getting jerked around by linksys or rogers
[04:28] <NeoChaosX> Cesarin: there's a thread in ubuntu forums about it
[04:28] <Lord_Athur> Hi
[04:28] <cesarin> NeoChaosX, but always had it since I installed breezy, so I dont think its a problem for me
[04:28] <NeoChaosX> the new artwork updates supposedly change the gnome foot to the ubuntu logo on the gnome menus
[04:28] <NeoChaosX> Odd
[04:28] <csthepoet> I need sound!! ahhhhh
[04:28] <csthepoet> someone help me!!
[04:28] <ZBlach> csthepoet, alsamixer
[04:28] <csthepoet> hahaha
[04:28] <cesarin> well anyway im gone
[04:28] <aieee> cesarin may i know ur age ?
[04:29] <csthepoet> ZBlach, i tried that
[04:29] <cesarin> aieee,  dude, you're asking for ASL :P
[04:29] <ZBlach> csthepoet, i guess your're screwed
[04:29] <cesarin> that trick wont work for me ;)
[04:29] <ZBlach> ;)
[04:29] <cesarin> I love ZBlach's way of helping.. its so.... inspiring ;)
[04:29] <csthepoet> ZBlach, really? why? it doesn't find my sound card
[04:29] <aieee> coz i don t know u
[04:29] <aieee>  dats y i m asking
[04:29] <ZBlach> does it find it?
[04:30] <ZBlach> System > Admin > Device Manager
[04:30] <cesarin> csthepoet, you did even check if your hardware was supported?
[04:30] <cesarin> anyway later guys, im gone!!
[04:30] <csthepoet> cesarin, i don't know
[04:30] <ZBlach> csthepoet, i'm guessing an audigy2?
[04:30] <csthepoet> i just installed ubuntu out of the blue to try it out
[04:31] <Licker> whats the command to open and give editing rights to myself to edit Sources.list
[04:31] <Licker> ?
[04:31] <csthepoet> ZBlach, what is that
[04:31] <ZBlach> csthepoet, its a sound card >_>
[04:31] <BiggieSmalls> does anyone know if there is a wayto get the nvidia glx drivers to work in breezy?
[04:31] <NeoChaosX> Licker: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:31] <_jason> Licker:  sudo gedit sources.lst
[04:31] <csthepoet> ZBlach, actually i dont know what my sound card it
[04:31] <ZBlach> csthepoet ...
[04:31] <ZBlach> ok
[04:31] <aieee> guys how long  ur using this ubuntu????
[04:31] <csthepoet> ZBlach, i own a toshiba satelite laptop
[04:32] <ZBlach> aieee, using ubuntu? a month. using it well? dunno yet
[04:32] <Licker> thanx neo-Jason
[04:32] <karen> HELLO---- everytime I minimize something it does not go into my panel, it just disappears. Why am i not able to send it to sit at the bottom of my rest panel?
[04:33] <ZBlach> karen, depending on the prog, it may minimize to an icon at the top
[04:33] <csthepoet> ZBlach, i'm looking it up now
[04:34] <karen_> actually it does't minimize anywhere it just goes off to  the bottom right of my screen
[04:34] <karen_> how can i fix that
[04:35] <misfit-puppy> but now I'm a puppy grrrrrr
[04:35] <ZBlach> i like to kick puppies
[04:35] <misfit-puppy> ZBlach: really?
[04:35] <ZBlach> but not in the IRC like manner of thinking
[04:35] <misfit-puppy> how cruel!
[04:35] <misfit-puppy> lol
[04:36] <misfit-puppy> ZBlach: just bbq them
[04:36] <ZBlach> i'm just evil. >:)
[04:36] <ZBlach> a bbq'd puppy is not the same as a hot dog
[04:36] <misfit-puppy> pretty slick little distro here, now if only the kid down the street would get off his drum set for the nite.
[04:36] <misfit-puppy> god
[04:36] <ZBlach> gotta nuke puppies for that
[04:37] <csthepoet> ZBlach, Realtek ALC250 sound is my sound card
[04:37] <aieee> ah oki tnx ZB
[04:37] <aieee>  ZB i dont hav any idea how to use this ubuntu
[04:37] <aieee> ZB how can i change the color of my font?
[04:37] <ZBlach> is it supported?
[04:37] <aieee> i just click one of this an d here i am in this room
[04:37] <ZBlach> aieee, in what?
[04:37] <csthepoet> ZBlach, i don't know how do i find out
[04:37] <ZBlach> ubout, tell csthepoet about supported soundcards
[04:37] <ZBlach> ubotu, tell csthepoet about supported soundcards
[04:38] <kyle_> so, I just installed Ubuntu, and it won't let me go above 1024x768, and everything's flickering :(
[04:38] <ZBlach> ubotu, tell csthepoet about soundcards
[04:38] <kyle_> GeForce 6800, for the record
[04:38] <jxpx> karen_
[04:38] <ZBlach> ubotu, tell csthepoet about sound
[04:38] <nomasteryoda|w> ZBlach, stop
[04:38] <misfit-puppy> heh
[04:38] <nomasteryoda|w> por favor
[04:38] <ZBlach> nomasteryoda|w, sorry. the last few things didn't work
[04:38] <nomasteryoda|w> hehe
[04:38] <ZBlach> oh and, ubotu, tell nomasteryoda|w about #ubuntu-es
[04:38] <atripathi> while fixing my display I deleted xorg files ........ still my display is running on lower resolution as earlier. I thought that either X will crash or regenerate xorg files but none happened
[04:38] <BiggieSmalls> does anyone know if there is a wayto get the nvidia glx drivers to work in breezy?
[04:39] <jxpx> Karen_
[04:39] <ZBlach> ubotu, tell me about recursion
[04:39] <atripathi> is there any way to get the xorg.conf files again ?
[04:39] <nomasteryoda|w> muchas gracias.... me no speaka espanol
[04:39] <durt> atripathi: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:39] <nomasteryoda|w> just playing with ya
[04:39] <ZBlach> ubotu, recursion is tell ubotu about recursion
[04:39] <ubotu> okay, ZBlach
[04:39] <atripathi> that crashes X
[04:39] <kyle_> hey... it all stopped shimmering
[04:40] <kyle_> yay
[04:40] <MadpilotPPC> ZBlach, that's an evil thing to tell the bot... but funny ;)
[04:40] <durt> run that outside of x then
[04:40] <nomasteryoda|w> atripathi, try ... dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:40] <misfit-puppy> !tell ZBlach about ubunut
[04:40] <ZBlach> !seen ubunut
[04:40] <ubotu> ZBlach: i haven't seen 'ubunut'
[04:40] <misfit-puppy> heh
[04:40] <atripathi> nomasteryoda: I tried but it crashes my X
[04:41] <atripathi> it adds some wrong configurations I guess
[04:41] <durt> atripathi, then answer the questions differently
[04:41] <atripathi> i am gonna do it for the last time now......if it crashes out again....I will reinstall
[04:42] <atripathi> I hope it gets fixed in new release
[04:42] <nomasteryoda|w> crud
[04:42] <nomasteryoda|w> i think he needed more help...
[04:43] <nomasteryoda|w> oh well, he'll be back
[04:43] <ubunut> I [heart]  ubuntu ^_^~~~
[04:43] <nomasteryoda|w> ubunut? lol
[04:43] <ZBlach> wow. what was that?
[04:43] <ZBlach> !seen ubunut
[04:43] <ubotu> ubunut <n=radiskul@Toronto-HSE-ppp3726149.sympatico.ca> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 27s ago, saying: 'I [heart]  ubuntu ^_^~~~'.
[04:43] <ZBlach> wow. the legend is true
[04:44] <kyle_> so
[04:44] <kyle_> not to expose my noobness, but what do I do with a .run
[04:45] <kyle_> that is, a friend of mine is wondering how to install his vid drivers...
[04:45] <MadpilotPPC> kyle_, double-click on it, usually. A .run of what, though?
[04:45] <kyle_> Nvidia drivers... says NVIDIA-blah-blah-blah-pkg2.run
[04:45] <god-zero> kyle_: sudo ./nameoffole.run to install
[04:45] <kyle_> double-clicking brings up the text editor complaining
[04:46] <kyle_> cool, thanks God
[04:46] <kyle_> (err... lol)
[04:46] <durt> kyle_ its easier to use the nvidia-glx package
[04:46] <jxpx> ?? java
[04:46] <kyle_> durt, how do I go about that?
[04:47] <dm> OMg guys im about to wipe my hard drive... this is so annoying, i cant get back to windows . Can ANYONE Help me, i already tried to  edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst and it didnt do shit.
[04:47] <dm> im utterly disturbed with how hard it is to do a simple task in ubuntu
[04:47] <durt> kyle_: try sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[04:47] <none_> use a windows boot disk
[04:47] <csthepoet> ZBlach, hey my sound card is combatible
[04:48] <n00bster> is there a program like irfanview for linux /
[04:48] <n00bster> is there a program like irfanview for linux ?
[04:48] <procrastinationn> what is pub_key ?
[04:48] <kyle_> durt: you are my hero. thanks
[04:48] <MadpilotPPC> n00bster, gThumb - it's included by default in Ubuntu, I think
[04:48] <csthepoet> ZBlach, i went to that site you gave me and i did all the things it said to check compatibility and it tells me how to make it work but it's too much for me
[04:48] <dm> i dont have  awindows boot disk, except the instal disk, but WHY CANT I GET TO WINDOWS, i have Grub 1.5 but i cant enter the setup like i did earlier this morning.. Can anyone help me
[04:49] <n00bster> thank you, i'll rtay it ..
[04:49] <MadpilotPPC> n00bster, or EyeOfGnome, which I know is included but which isn't as good as gThumb
[04:49] <procrastinationn> i need some advice
[04:49] <durt> eog isnt as good as gthumb? ...
[04:50] <dm> OMg guys im about to wipe my hard drive... this is so annoying, i cant get back to windows . Can ANYONE Help me, i already tried to  edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst and it didnt do shit.
[04:50] <procrastinationn> can anyone help me
[04:50] <none_> dm, so download one
[04:50] <MadpilotPPC> durt, not IMO... gThumb is faster and has far more features...
[04:50] <n00bster> ok, i'll tray the first one, first . ty
[04:50] <wweasel> Hey guys, I need help with my WiFi. It acts odd. I get good connection but it takes forever to load pages. Sometimes works nicely, sometimes about 30 seconds, sometimes just ping timeout. Works fine in windows, works fine wired. ideas?
[04:50] <none_> why not just stick with linux?
[04:50] <durt> eog is some much simpler though
[04:50] <procrastinationn> grub automatically detected my windows
[04:50] <BiggieSmalls> anyone here get the nvidia drivers or nvidia-glx to work in breezy?
[04:50] <jmg> hmm
[04:50] <boxerboy29> what is ubuntu's grafical installer called?
[04:51] <dm> none_ why would i need a boot disk, Isnt there a setting in GRUB to be able to choose which boot menu to access
[04:51] <none_> dm, yes
[04:51] <boxerboy29> the update installer
[04:51] <n00bster> hmm, trayed it, it's not ecsectlly like irfan, it's have no simple editing capabilities
[04:51] <none_> title Windows 2000 SP4
[04:51] <none_> rootnoverify (hd0,0)
[04:51] <none_> chainloader +1
[04:51] <none_> something like that
[04:51] <dm> none_ how do i set that up
[04:51] <Licker> is there a way to BURN Iso files in linux?
[04:51] <none_> it should already be in the grub conf file
[04:52] <none_> Licker, k3b is good
[04:52] <n00bster> to make long story short, i need a simple Graphic Editor, (like ..MSpainr)
[04:52] <none_> cdrecord
[04:52] <csthepoet> can anyone help me fix my sound
[04:52] <n00bster> Mspaint*
[04:52] <god-zero> Licker: right click the iso's icon
[04:52] <procrastinationn> ok when sudo apt-get update it fails saying i dont have the pub_key
[04:52] <thoreauputic> Licker: just right-click the file in the file manager, choose burn... simple
[04:52] <none_> n00bster, xv is relatively simple
[04:53] <johnathan> hello every one
[04:53] <n00bster> is it in thr packeg manager ?
[04:53] <dm> ill try that, ill be back
[04:53] <csthepoet> i have no sound! ahhh
[04:53] <csthepoet> haha
[04:53] <csthepoet> can anyone help me with my sound
[04:53] <none_> n00bster, i don't think so
[04:53] <sheepy> wats wrong with it?
[04:53] <procrastinationn> i need help getting mp3s to play
[04:53] <BiggieSmalls> can anyone help me with my videocard?
[04:54] <Licker> oh allright
[04:54] <Licker> thanx guys
[04:54] <sheepy> www.ubuntuguide.org
[04:54] <sunandrain> install mplayer to player mp3s
[04:54] <procrastinationn> thats it
[04:54] <sheepy> look at media codecs
[04:54] <MadpilotPPC> !tell procrastinationn about mp3
[04:54] <MadpilotPPC> !tell sheepy about ubuntuguide
[04:54] <procrastinationn> i tried installing the codecs but something fails the pub_key is needed it says
[04:55] <n00bster> issent eny other simple photo editor, insted of the compli\cated gimp
[04:55] <karen_> HELP PLEASE---- trying to get things to minimize to the bottom of my tool bar. For some reason they disappear whenever i minimize anything.
[04:55] <robbkidd> Anyone using Ubuntu for TeX/LaTeX document generation?
[04:55] <_jason> Does anyone here use d4x with flashgot in firefox?
[04:55] <procrastinationn> karen that happended to me
[04:55] <MadpilotPPC> n00bster, gThumb will do resizing, rotations and stuff like that
[04:55] <BiggieSmalls> can anyone help me with my videocard?
[04:56] <none_> n00bster, try xpaint as well
[04:56] <_jason> robbkidd:  I just isntalled tetex but haven't had a chance to make any tex documents
[04:56] <none_> xpaint is exactly what you need
[04:56] <thoreauputic> karen_: right click the tool bar, in the list of applets look for "window list" and add it
[04:56] <procrastinationn> how do i open up universe
[04:56] <none_> uncomment the universe line in sources.list
[04:56] <MadpilotPPC> !repos
[04:56] <ubotu> it has been said that repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[04:56] <karen_> PRO---- how did you fix it?
[04:56] <durt> whats the point of learning tex when you can use texmacs? just wondering
[04:56] <MadpilotPPC> procrastinationn, see ubotu above ^^^
[04:56] <none_> gpaint
[04:56] <none_> also
[04:56] <esac> has anybody here used gensplash/splashutils ?
[04:57] <procrastinationn> none what do you me
[04:57] <durt> and mtpaint
[04:57] <god-zero> n00bster: gpaint, kolourpaint, krita.................
[04:57] <thoreauputic> karen_: see my suggestion above
[04:57] <sheepy> !faq
[04:57] <ubotu> faq is, like, The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/
[04:57] <n00bster> ok, i will.
[04:57] <n00bster> :}
[04:57] <sheepy> is anyone here on breezy right now
[04:57] <sheepy> ???
[04:57] <none_> yes
[04:57] <esac> me !
[04:57] <procrastinationn> none what do you mean
[04:58] <sheepy> any problems lately?
[04:58] <none_> procrastinationn, edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:58] <durt> xpaint looks good
[04:58] <sheepy> i was thinking about upgrading this afternoon
[04:58] <karen_> Thor------no window list
[04:58] <procrastinationn> i know that but you said uncomment something
[04:58] <none_> procrastinationn, type this: sudo echo " deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe" >>/etc/apt/sources.list
[04:59] <none_> make sure you use >>
[04:59] <MadpilotPPC> !tell procrastinationn about repos
[04:59] <none_> change breezy to hoary
[04:59] <none_> depending on what you are using
[04:59] <navyn> hey guys
[04:59] <procrastinationn> none permission denied
[04:59] <none_> use sudo
[04:59] <navyn> are the backports up yet?
[04:59] <thoreauputic> karen_: choose "add to panel" and scroll down
[05:00] <none_> procrastinationn, are you using breezy or hoary?
[05:00] <MadpilotPPC> procrastinationn, see the msg ubotu just sent you, it's got all the details on adding repositories
[05:00] <procrastinationn> hoary
[05:00] <ericz> !tell ericz about repos
[05:00] <none_> change breezy in that line to hoary
[05:00] <csthepoet> i just installed ubuntu on my toshiba laptop but i have no sound, i've tried the whole alsamixer but it doesn't pick up my sound card can anyone help me on that
[05:00] <none_> then do it
[05:00] <sheepy> !repos
[05:00] <ubotu> repos is, like, totally, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[05:00] <none_>  sudo echo " deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe" >>/etc/apt/sources.list
[05:00] <none_> that
[05:00] <none_> don't forget >>
[05:01] <ericz> none_ what does that do?
[05:01] <none_> then sudo apt-get update
[05:01] <sheepy> is compiling packages from source available in ubuntu?
[05:01] <MadpilotPPC> sheepy, of course. But there's a staggering amount of stuff in the repos already...
[05:01] <robbkidd> "sudo echo"?  ... Ha!  Loved their remake of Funky Town.
[05:01] <thoreauputic> sheepy: of course
[05:01] <none_> ericz, it add the line in quotation marks to sources.list
[05:01] <sheepy> yeah, i just noticed the source repos today
[05:01] <procrastinationn> still getting denied
[05:02] <n00bster> OK, xpaint did the trick for me :{ ty all
[05:02] <ericz> what good is that line in sources.list tohugh? does it install breezy or something?
[05:02] <none_> you aren't using sudo then
[05:02] <karen_> ahhhh--- thanks so much Thoreauputic--- it was driving me nuts. you're a smarty!!!
[05:02] <procrastinationn> i am
[05:02] <MadpilotPPC> !sudo
[05:02] <ubotu> well, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[05:02] <johnson> !tell johnson about w32codecs
[05:02] <thoreauputic> karen_: I had the same thing happen to me about a year ago ;)
[05:02] <MadpilotPPC> procrastinationn, have you read the Sudo howto - the rootsudo page ubotu's got above?
[05:02] <none_> ericz, it makes apt get the package index for the universe repositories
[05:02] <procrastinationn> no
[05:02] <robbkidd> sudo is your friend.
[05:03] <robbkidd> Do not taunt happy, fun sudo.
[05:03] <Strog> or a good aquaintance at least
[05:03] <karen_> well i'm new to all this and it gets too complicated for me.  It seems everyone is so much younger than myself and knows so much more than i do.
[05:03] <procrastinationn> why am i getting denied
[05:04] <MadpilotPPC> procrastinationn, which password are you trying to use w/ sudo?
[05:04] <Strog> karen_: You learn a little here and there and put it together. It's a progressive thing
[05:04] <Strog> :)
[05:04] <procrastinationn> it dont ask for a password
[05:04] <thoreauputic> karen_: you'll learn stuff - and not all of us were so young when we started ;)
[05:04] <MadpilotPPC> procrastinationn, are you using a regular terminal or a root term? (don't use a root terminal...)
[05:04] <karen_> how old are you mr. thoreauputic?
[05:05] <thoreauputic> karen_: 53 :)
[05:05] <karen_> ahhh
[05:05] <procrastinationn> i think im using reg not sure only had linux for a week
[05:06] <MadpilotPPC> procrastinationn, close the terminal you're using, and go Applications --> System Tools --> Terminal (just to make sure you're not in a Root Term by accident...)
[05:06] <procrastinationn> i only use windows for xbox tunnelling
[05:06] <karen_> here i was thinking this chatroom was full of kiddies
[05:06] <none_> karen, it is not so hard
[05:06] <karen_> i say we have a computer party and everyone come show me what the hell i'm doing
[05:06] <karen_> haha
[05:06] <CarlFK> hey karen
[05:07] <none_> once you understand the underlying principles it will become easy
[05:07] <MadpilotPPC> karen, you pick up bits and pieces, and before you know it you're giving bad advice to the *real* newbies here on #ubuntu...
[05:07] <procrastinationn> dont have a terminal in systemtools
[05:07] <MadpilotPPC> procrastinationn, should be 2nd from the bottom of the System Tools menu, at least in Hoary
[05:07] <karen_> Carl----- you are the first invited to the computer party
[05:07] <karen_> well so far i've gotten good advice
[05:08] <CarlFK> heh - will there be food?
[05:08] <hondje> That's because I've been afk
[05:08] <procrastinationn> negative
[05:08] <karen_> Carl--- do you work any other way?
[05:08] <procrastinationn> no terminal
[05:08] <CarlFK> just making sure
[05:08] <Toma-> how can i stop ubuntu from loading the ipv6 module?
[05:08] <procrastinationn> im running 5.10 ubuntu
[05:08] <MadpilotPPC> procrastinationn, in Applications menu - System Tools? Which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[05:08] <none_> karen, http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/linuxkernel/
[05:09] <karen_> Carl--- glad you showed me this chatroom stuff-- these people talk me through something new every day
[05:09] <hondje> Toma-: You can blacklist it, I think
[05:09] <MadpilotPPC> procrastinationn, ah, OK. I know some stuff has changed in 5.10 - I'm still running 5.04 (Hoary) here
[05:09] <karen_> none-- what is that and will it blow up my computer?
[05:09] <procrastinationn> cant i just go to sources list and uncomment it
[05:10] <dallas_> I am looking for some help installing ubuntu on my laptop?
[05:11] <Toma-> blacklist u say?
[05:11] <procrastinationn> yo none brb
[05:11] <Wimpie> need some help with case preservation and vfat filesystem : I want to 'touch XXX' and create a file 'XXX' and not 'xxx' ?
[05:11] <hondje> does vfat recognize cases?
[05:11] <none_> karen, it's a book on the linux kernel
[05:12] <durt> this is not the place for that wimpie ;)
[05:12] <none_> if you understand how the kernel functions then you understand the entire system
[05:12] <Wimpie> yes and no : some files have capitals others don't. I just want to understand how to create these mixed filenames
[05:13] <Wimpie> durt : probably, but I am basically looking for linux users with experience
[05:13] <procrastinationn> none im back
[05:13] <thoreauputic> hondje: no
[05:13] <hondje> whew, glad I'm not crazy :)
[05:13] <hondje> Well, I am, but yeah
[05:13] <CarlFK> karen_ - whats the deal with minimizing windows to the bar?
[05:13] <none_> Wimpie ??
[05:13] <procrastinationn> ok i just want to open the universe and get mp3 play back
[05:14] <Wimpie> well if I do 'ls' I get files all small some mixed and some upper
[05:14] <karen> Carl--- everything was disappearing---- now i can minimize and come back to it.  Your friends here talked me through it.
[05:14] <Wimpie> these files were created under XP
[05:14] <none_> yes?
[05:14] <Wimpie> and I wonder HOW i can create these files under LINUX
[05:14] <CarlFK> karen - well talk me though it, cuz I never noticed that they disapeared like that, and now I am bothered ;)
[05:15] <none_> what sort of files?
[05:15] <red_blood> hello people! how i can use my TV OUT? i have a Nvidia Gforce 4 mx 440 128 mb TV out... thanks
[05:15] <Toma--> how do u stop modules from loading? namely vesafb and ipv6?
[05:15] <ericz> none, i added that repository thing wth the command you gave earlier... what good does it do me?
[05:15] <Wimpie> any files (data and dirs)
[05:15] <karen> Carl -- did you ever read up on my camera?
[05:15] <thoreauputic> Toma--: /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[05:15] <durt> toma, have you blacklisted it?
[05:15] <red_blood> !tv
[05:15] <ubotu> red_blood: Are you smoking crack?
[05:15] <Toma--> ahh hotplug
[05:15] <Toma--> thanks
[05:15] <none_> ericz, run apt-get update.. now you can use apt-get to install many more applications
[05:15] <red_blood> !tvout
[05:15] <ubotu> red_blood: I don't know, could you explain it?
[05:16] <ericz> i did run apt-get update
[05:16] <ericz> nothing seemed different
[05:16] <CarlFK> karen - um... no.   I knew there was some stuff I needed to do.  Ill give it a shot right now
[05:16] <procrastinationn> none
[05:16] <none_> it is
[05:16] <hondje> red_blood: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NvidiaTVOut
[05:16] <none_> procrastinationn, type sudo bash
[05:16] <n00bster> i have download somthind from amule  and it says that it's save win a certain path..
[05:17] <procrastinationn> when i follow the ubuntu guide to installing codecs it gives me and error
[05:17] <n00bster> now the path is accessible fron terminal but not from GileBrowser, whay/
[05:17] <esac> yay, i got gensplash working with a custom theme in ubuntu !
[05:17] <hondje> procrastinationn: use the wiki
[05:17] <none_> what is the error
[05:17] <n00bster> FileBrowser*
[05:17] <hondje> !tell procrastinationn about restricted
[05:17] <sri> so who do I talk to about bluetooth support for ubuntu?
[05:17] <karen> Carl-- i know you've been busy.  Just let me know if you learn anything.
[05:17] <MadpilotPPC> procrastinationn, don't use ubuntuguide...
[05:17] <MadpilotPPC> !+ubuntuguide
[05:17] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is, like, out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[05:17] <procrastinationn> ok
[05:17] <ericz> actually 4 of my repositories show up as 404... mirrormax or something
[05:17] <MadpilotPPC> !wiki
[05:18] <jsubl2> karen did you try just plugging the camera in and seeing if you get a new icon on the desktop
[05:18] <procrastinationn> my bad i meant ubuntu wiki.org
[05:18] <none_> ericz, you need to remove them from /etc/apt/sources.list in that case
[05:18] <csthepoet> can anyone tell me here what modprode is?
[05:18] <ericz> they worked just the other day though, it's odd
[05:18] <esac> does anybody have any cool gensplash/fbsplash themes that i can use (nothing gentoo specific, although the one in the live cd is really cool)
[05:18] <MrGardenHoseMan> is there a tutorial on how to set up a static ip?
[05:18] <none_> csthepoet, a module loader
[05:18] <jsubl2> karen plug in and turn it on of course
[05:18] <procrastinationn> now im in root
[05:18] <procrastinationn> sudo bash puts me in root
[05:18] <hondje> csthepoet: modules are linux talk for what are commonly called drivers in windows
[05:18] <hondje> while CUPS is a driver
[05:18] <csthepoet> none_,  and how would i do that to do snd-intel8x0
[05:18] <none_> procrastinationn,  echo " deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe" >>/etc/apt/sources.list
[05:18] <none_> try that
[05:18] <MadpilotPPC> ericz, I think there's been some changes with the backports - mirrormax may have gone away...
[05:19] <csthepoet> haha
[05:19] <none_> csthepoet, sudo modprobe snd-intel8x0
[05:19] <csthepoet> sorry if i make no sense
[05:19] <ericz> the site still exists, i went to it n firefox... the directories like "hoary" and stuff are all empty though...
[05:19] <procrastinationn> none i think it worked what did i do ?
[05:19] <karen> Jsub---- Carl (also in room) he tried numerous things to get my camera to work--- give him some suggestions.
[05:19] <none_> procrastinationn, you added the line to sources.list
[05:19] <none_> now run apt-get update
[05:19] <csthepoet> none_, thanks
[05:19] <procrastinationn> ok
[05:19] <none_> then you should be able to download the packages for mp3 decoding
[05:20] <none_> that work, csthepoet ?
[05:20] <n00bster> How Can I Make All Hidden Files In "Home" Visible ?
[05:20] <hondje> n00bster: if you're using nautilus, ctrl-H. In a terminal, ls -a
[05:20] <none_> n00bster, there's usually an option for that
[05:20] <thoreauputic> n00bster: hit ctrl-h
[05:20] <csthepoet> none_, i typed that in but nothing happend
[05:20] <procrastinationn> im still getting an error
[05:20] <none_> did it go back to the command line?
[05:20] <none_> what error, procrastinationn ?
[05:20] <n00bster> ok, i'll tray it ..
[05:21] <procrastinationn> can i paste it
[05:21] <MadpilotPPC> !+paste
[05:21] <ubotu> well, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[05:21] <none_> csthepoet.. lsmod|grep intel
[05:21] <n00bster> ahaaaaa Eureka ! got it :}
[05:21] <hondje> anyone find the latest kernel for breezy to barf up buffer errors for hdds?
[05:22] <csthepoet> none_, ok it's in there a bunch of times
[05:22] <ericz> i just commented [in gedit]  out the mirrormax backport repositories or whatever that were giving me 404
[05:22] <procrastinationn> none it says i need a pub_key
[05:22] <none_> those are all the intel drivers then
[05:22] <none_> look for the one you just loaded
[05:22] <none_> procrastinationn, use the main site
[05:23] <procrastinationn> i am
[05:23] <procrastinationn> ubuntu.org
[05:23] <csthepoet> none_, see i was in the linux room asking for help for my sound and the guy there told me to do that
[05:23] <n00bster> so Ctl+H did the trick. Is THere A list of shortcuts for Nautilus oe enything els ?
[05:23] <none_> procrastinationn, then i'm not sure
[05:23] <csthepoet> none_, how exactly does that help for my sound>
[05:23] <procrastinationn> lol
[05:23] <yaaar> word
[05:23] <procrastinationn> well thnx for helpin
[05:23] <hondje> http://live.gnome.org/PowerUserTools
[05:23] <none_> i have never seen that error
[05:24] <none_> csthepoet, it loads the intel i8x0 sound driver
[05:24] <procrastinationn> right after its done reading the packages it fails
[05:24] <csthepoet> none_, oh ok
[05:24] <none_> i'd have to see the actual error
[05:24] <csthepoet> none_, thanks
[05:24] <none_> good luck
[05:24] <procrastinationn> i dont know how to use the paste ish
[05:24] <none_> it's simple
[05:24] <none_> paste it and give the url
[05:25] <csthepoet> none_, my sound still doesn't work ahh
[05:25] <Toma--> well i blacklisted those modules and restarted. still getting loaded
[05:25] <none_> csthepoet, alsamixer
[05:25] <none_> make sure the volume is up
[05:25] <csthepoet> none_, maybe you would know does are ATI sound cards compatible with ubuntu>?
[05:25] <none_> cat /dev/urandom >/dev/dsp
[05:25] <csthepoet> none_, alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[05:25] <Toma--> should i remove the aliases in /etc/modprobe.d ?
[05:26] <durt> toma-- have you tried "rmmod ipv6"?
[05:26] <none_> csthepoet, ATI releases drivers for linux, so probably
[05:26] <none_> dunno for sure
[05:26] <thoreauputic> milisdad: not a good move to IRC as root
[05:26] <Toma--> durt: i could but thats too mess and id have to make a startup scipt :(
[05:26] <Toma--> *messy
[05:27] <none_> csthepoet, well, i don't think ATI uses the i8x0 chipset
[05:27] <procrastinationn> how do i get out of root in my terminal
[05:27] <none_> not the driver you need
[05:27] <Toma--> procrastinationn: exit
[05:27] <none_> lspci -v
[05:27] <none_> look to see what device you have
[05:27] <procrastinationn> kool
[05:27] <durt> making a startup script isnt hard or messy toma
[05:27] <jsubl2> White Sox 3, Indians 2
[05:27] <csthepoet> none_, yea?
[05:27] <s3rp3nt> I just recently came into posession of an AS/400, What should i run on it?
[05:27] <Toma--> durt: it also says its in use
[05:27] <csthepoet> none_, so that was no good then huh?
[05:28] <durt> oh
[05:28] <none_> nope
[05:28] <none_> not good
[05:28] <csthepoet> hmm
[05:28] <none_> but if you paste the exact name of your card i can find out what module you need to load
[05:28] <geneo93> s3rp3nt:  depends on what model it is
[05:28] <s3rp3nt> 4904
[05:28] <csthepoet> none_, if i tell you the exact sound card i have do you think you would know how to help me?
[05:28] <glyn> Anyone know why I can't connect to Nicotine?
[05:28] <s3rp3nt> quad alphas
[05:28] <csthepoet> haha i didnt' catch that
[05:28] <none_> yes
[05:28] <csthepoet> sorry
[05:28] <csthepoet> haha
[05:29] <none_> it's cool
[05:29] <procrastinationn> what does it mean by signatures couldnt be verrified because of no pub key
[05:29] <hondje> Debian should run on that
[05:29] <geneo93> s3rp3nt:  i think all that will run on that is ibms aix
[05:29] <csthepoet>  ATI Technologies Inc IXP150 AC'97 Audi o Controller
[05:29] <none_> procrastinationn, apt can't verify the index files
[05:29] <s3rp3nt> Or anyone know anyone who would like to buy it?
[05:29] <none_> so you can't trust them
[05:29] <procrastinationn> well that is the error
[05:30] <none_> there should be another reference to audio, csthepoet
[05:30] <hondje> ebay it ;)
[05:30] <durt> toma: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-6841.html
[05:30] <durt> darn it
[05:30] <geneo93> s3rp3nt:  that has a pci side and server side ??
[05:31] <none_> csthepoet, modprobe ac97
[05:31] <Pickle_Weasel> is there a way for me to set my firewall to be off automatically when i boot up?
[05:31] <ripgut> hey guys is there anyway one can open network tools via the terminal in ubuntu?
[05:31] <glyn> Anyone know why I can't connect to Nicotine?
[05:31] <none_> modprobe snd_ac97 modprobe snd_ac97_codec
[05:31] <none_> try those too
[05:31] <none_> use sudo
[05:32] <s3rp3nt> yes, believe so... it wont be in my apartment until tomorrow though.. then i can tell you everything about it
[05:32] <ripgut> guys?
[05:32] <procrastinationn> so none sorry to bug you,how make it so it will verrify
[05:32] <pl_ice> any one tried to play game thief 3 ?
[05:32] <Fr0Gs> in samba is there a way to get a samba password without changing it
[05:32] <none_> procrastinationn, i'm not sure what that error means, so i am clueless
[05:32] <procrastinationn> ok ill stop buggin ya
[05:32] <Fr0Gs> with samba is there a way to get a samba password without changing it
[05:32] <Fr0Gs> ?
[05:33] <geneo93> ibm just released a version of linux for some newer AS400's afaik
[05:33] <csthepoet> none_, ok done
[05:34] <s3rp3nt> i was given the server 2 terminals a dozen dat tapes and twin dat drivers plus monitor and keyboard.
[05:34] <thoreauputic> hi linner :)
[05:34] <none_> not try running alsamixer
[05:34] <hondje> can't go wrong just calling IBM, they've alway been quite friendly in my experience
[05:34] <none_> now that is
[05:34] <ripgut> guys?
[05:34] <none_> ?
[05:34] <odd-> ??
[05:34] <can8dn> 2 quick questions: AMD64 + ATI X800XL supported???
[05:34] <none_> ???
[05:34] <odd-> ????
[05:34] <none_> ?????
[05:34] <ripgut> my friends ubuntu machine wont let him open network tools so he can choose his wifinic card
[05:34] <csthepoet> hahaha
[05:34] <odd-> ??????
[05:34] <geneo93> last i heard it was to cost around 12,000 dollars
[05:34] <ripgut> what can he do
[05:35] <s3rp3nt> wonder if they'll just buy the f*r back
[05:35] <csthepoet> are those for me?
[05:35] <csthepoet> haha
[05:35] <odd-> No.
[05:35] <odd-> We're trying to outpwn eachother.
[05:35] <odd-> Hey none_
[05:35] <odd-> great ?'s.
[05:35] <none_> did alsamixer run csthepoet ?
[05:35] <odd-> ;)
[05:35] <none_> you too
[05:35] <geneo93> s3rp3nt:  i doubt it its quite old
[05:35] <can8dn> does ubuntu support amd64 and the ati x800xl?
[05:35] <csthepoet> none_, alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[05:36] <none_> modprobe mixer
[05:36] <s3rp3nt> can8dn yes
[05:36] <none_> modprobe snd
[05:36] <thoreauputic> can8dn: amd64 yes, no idea about the ati
[05:36] <ripgut> hello?
[05:36] <none_> modprobe snd_mixer
[05:36] <none_> try those then run it again
[05:36] <ripgut> can anyone answer my question?
[05:37] <none_> csthepoet, if those don't work then i am out of ideas
[05:37] <csthepoet> none_, it says mixer not found
[05:37] <none_> ok well, skip that and try modprobe snd
[05:37] <RexKwonDo> I am trying to get Epiphany to launch XMMS whenever I select a link for a m3u playlist.  Epiphany just keeps launching mPlayer.  Any suggestions?
[05:37] <can8dn> guess the only thing to do is to download it and try it eh?
[05:37] <csthepoet> none_, modprobe snd mixer?
[05:37] <none_> just modprobe snd
[05:37] <durt> well, ripgut, why cant you run the network tools thing?
[05:37] <s3rp3nt> ripgut: what version?
[05:37] <cav> Is there a more support oriented channel for new users?
[05:37] <ripgut> it just closes when he tried to open it
[05:38] <ripgut> like it wants to open, but can't
[05:38] <thoreauputic> cav: what's you issue? This is the support channel
[05:38] <csthepoet> none_, same error
[05:38] <ripgut> how can he get ubuntu to select the wlan0 card?
[05:38] <none_> try modprobe soundcore
[05:38] <thoreauputic> cav: just ask - if someone can help they will
[05:38] <ripgut> its on l0 right now
[05:38] <none_> now i really have run out of ideas
[05:38] <ripgut> lo*
[05:39] <cav> I'm just actually using it for the first time so I'm sure I'll run into lots of issues.
[05:39] <none_> ripgut, sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[05:39] <thoreauputic> cav: ah OK - well lots of people here can help
[05:39] <ripgut> thanks
[05:39] <thoreauputic> cav: welcome to Ubuntu :)
[05:39] <s3rp3nt> search on google or linux.com for a wireless linux tutorial will show how to configure wifi with command line tools including setting security keys
[05:40] <csthepoet> none_, ahh same error
[05:40] <MadpilotPPC> !+wifi
[05:40] <ubotu> wifi is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[05:40] <none_> csthepoet, you may have an unsupported card in that case
[05:40] <none_> or you may need to get the driver from ATI directly
[05:40] <geneo93> s3rp3nt:  i've worked on some 5270's in the past
[05:41] <none_> ubuntu loads all of the modules to see which work when it is installed
[05:41] <csthepoet> none_, this sucks
[05:41] <pluffsy> hi
[05:41] <none_> yeah
[05:41] <csthepoet> none_, do you another good distributor for laptops
[05:41] <none_> not really
[05:42] <none_> i don't have one
[05:42] <s3rp3nt> geneo93: what all languages are programmable on this thing? i know rpg, but what about c/c++/objc?
[05:42] <none_> however, some companies sell laptops designed for linux
[05:42] <none_> you'd have to search google
[05:42] <csthepoet> everything of ubuntu is perfect just that one flaw
[05:42] <csthepoet> i used fedora before ubuntu and it was really unstable
[05:43] <Pickle_Weasel> i'm having trouble with the firewall =\
[05:43] <odd-> I like ubuntu, it's satisfiable.
[05:43] <csthepoet> yes very
[05:43] <Pickle_Weasel> is there a way to set it to not turn on when i boot up?
[05:43] <none_> well, not many companies are willing to work with linux kernel developers
[05:43] <pluffsy> I reeeally wanna like linux and ubuntu but it's sure giving me a hard time. I have tried installing ubuntu 5.04 a couple times on my powerbook and I just can't get it to work. Gnome has random problems, like nautilus more or less always not working. If I run xfce evolution doesn't work, and xfce doesn't have gui for the most basic settings. and now when I try KDE the colors are so messed up I can't even write code because it's so hard to read t
[05:43] <pluffsy> ext :(
[05:43] <geneo93> i dunno if c++ will even compile on those
[05:43] <odd-> Does anyone use hoary?
[05:43] <durt> what firewall, pickel_weasel?
[05:43] <RexKwonDo> I am trying to get Epiphany to launch XMMS whenever I select a link for a m3u playlist.  Epiphany just keeps launching mPlayer.  Any suggestions?
[05:43] <Pickle_Weasel> whatever default thing comes with ubuntu
[05:43] <Pickle_Weasel> the one built into the kernel >.>
[05:44] <s3rp3nt> whats wrong with the firewall?
[05:44] <none_> linux on laptops is problematic
[05:44] <Pickle_Weasel> i want it off
[05:44] <palcoy> i use hoary
[05:44] <Pickle_Weasel> i mean, i have it off now, but i want it to not turn on when i reboot
[05:45] <pluffsy> any ideas why the colors are mangled in kde? it seems like very dark colors but not black are replaced with random colors.'
[05:45] <thoreauputic> Pickle_Weasel: erm - it won't - unless you installed a firewall tool or something
[05:45] <durt> how did you turn it off Pickle_weasel?
[05:45] <Pickle_Weasel> well, i installed firestarter
[05:45] <Pickle_Weasel> and i turned it off through that
[05:45] <Pickle_Weasel> quite simple, but a bit of a hassle to keep doing that every time i boot
[05:45] <thoreauputic> Pickle_Weasel: Ubuntu doesn't run any servers by default ( not internet facing ones anyway)
[05:46] <Pickle_Weasel> =\
[05:46] <thoreauputic> Pickle_Weasel: any reason you needed firestarter?
[05:46] <csthepoet> none_, thanks alot for your help
[05:46] <pluffsy> pretty please. any help is greatly needed.
[05:46] <Pickle_Weasel> to turn it off..
[05:46] <none_> np.. hopefully you'll get it to work
[05:46] <csthepoet> none_, it was very nice of you
[05:46] <none_> sound is important :)
[05:46] <Pickle_Weasel> the firewall is automatically on =\
[05:46] <thoreauputic> Pickle_Weasel: ar you running servers (apache, ssh etc?)
[05:46] <thoreauputic> *are
[05:47] <Pickle_Weasel> no, no i'm not
[05:47] <none_> pluffsy, linux does not do well on some laptops
[05:47] <thoreauputic> Pickle_Weasel: then you don't need firestarter
[05:47] <Pickle_Weasel> but it's blocking little things that annoy me, such as azerus, or Gaim
[05:47] <none_> you may have to wait a year or two and try again
[05:47] <pluffsy> ;(
[05:47] <ruf> anybody knows an easy way to mount NTSF parts in Ubuntu via LiveCd?
[05:47] <thoreauputic> Pickle_Weasel: firestarter doesn't block gaim
[05:48] <none_> ruf, mount -t ntfs /dev/hdX /mnt
[05:48] <Pickle_Weasel> firestarter is not a program..it's just a front end for the built in firewall
[05:48] <Pickle_Weasel> it IS a program, i mean
[05:48] <MadpilotPPC> pluffsy, Breezy has been doing interesting things with laptop functionality - the Ubuntu project has actually sent out about 2 dozen laptops for testing...
[05:48] <Pickle_Weasel> but it's not a firewall
[05:48] <thoreauputic> Pickle_Weasel:  sudo apt-get remove --purge firestarter
[05:48] <ruf> i must be root, right?
[05:48] <Pickle_Weasel> no thank you
[05:48] <none_> Pickle_Weasel, AFAIK ubuntu does not come with a firewall
[05:48] <MadpilotPPC> ruf, use sudo rather than root
[05:48] <none_> ruf, sudo
[05:48] <thoreauputic> Pickle_Weasel: I don't think you understand
[05:48] <ruf> cool mans! Thank you
[05:49] <Pickle_Weasel> ubotu: rumour has it, firewall is Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel.
[05:49] <ubotu> Pickle_Weasel: I think you lost me on that one
[05:49] <Pickle_Weasel> ^
[05:49] <Pickle_Weasel> shush, bot
[05:49] <pluffsy> MadpilotPPC, alright. sounds good. but you think that will do anything for my powerbook g3 or is that just x86 laptops that are affected?
[05:49] <thoreauputic> Pickle_Weasel: firstarter writes an iptables script - sounds like you don't need it
[05:49] <ruf> anybody knows one portuguese IRC channel for ubuntu discuss?
[05:49] <MadpilotPPC> pluffsy, there are a couple of Apple laptops in the testing program...
[05:49] <none_> Pickle_Weasel, every distrobution does not come with a firewall
[05:49] <pluffsy> what makes laptops so special? it seems like there is always trouoble with laptops and linux
[05:49] <csthepoet> none_, i found a page that might help me
[05:49] <ruf> my english is BAD! :D
[05:49] <none_> Pickle_Weasel, iptables -F
[05:49] <durt> !portuguese
[05:49] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[05:49] <Pickle_Weasel> i don't know how to explain my problem
[05:49] <csthepoet> none_, http://tuxmobil.org/asus_l4500r.html
[05:50] <MadpilotPPC> pluffsy, more odd hardware config stuff than desktops, I guess
[05:50] <thoreauputic> Pickle_Weasel: it just sounds like you don't need firestarter
[05:50] <csthepoet> none_, they are talking about using someting called ALSA
[05:50] <csthepoet> none_, have you heard of that before?
[05:50] <ruf> thank you all again! The anwsers come VERY FAST here! :)
[05:50] <Earthen> I installed the Ati driver for my system and it works well, but now none of my video players will work? any one know why?
[05:50] <trigger_ph> hello
[05:50] <vbgunz> I vote the searhorse documentation amongst the worse :(
[05:51] <none_> csthepoet, that is the linux sound system
[05:51] <Pickle_Weasel> ok what would be the easiest way to turn off the firewall and keep it off
[05:51] <trigger_ph> Has anyone tried creating a launcher for a bash script?
[05:51] <s3rp3nt> package for kubuntu?
[05:51] <MadpilotPPC> pluffsy, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTesting and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam
[05:51] <s3rp3nt> ermm, what is the package for kubuntu?
[05:51] <csthepoet> none_, ok can that help me with my sound problem?
[05:51] <thoreauputic> Pickle_Weasel: sudo apt-get remove --purge firestarter && sudo iptables -F
[05:52] <pluffsy> hmm just opening and closing the gamma settings in kde actually solved the problem with kde colors. atleast temporary.
[05:52] <none_> csthepoet, ubuntu uses ALSA by default.
[05:52] <vbgunz> anyone here use seahorse? Isn't it supposed to integrate with Nautilus? I am trying to sign plenty of files and it looks like I have no choice but to command line them all... Any alternatives?
[05:52] <Pickle_Weasel> iptables -F will keep it off for good?
[05:52] <none_> your problem is that the sound device is not being created
[05:52] <silasj> hello all
[05:52] <none_> Pickle_Weasel, there are no iptables entries to begin with
[05:52] <csthepoet> none_, hmm so that pretty much means no eh?
[05:52] <none_> yeah
[05:52] <none_> you need to know what module to use
[05:52] <thoreauputic> Pickle_Weasel: only if you remove firestarter - it has a start up script that needs to be purged
[05:53] <csthepoet> none_, yep it's not my day haha
[05:53] <none_> or if there even is one
[05:53] <thoreauputic> Pickle_Weasel: cat /etc/init.d/firestarter
[05:53] <silasj> hey guys, gnome system monitor never puts color on swap session... maybe swap is not working well, some tip to get more information?
[05:53] <none_> silasj, how much ram do you have?
[05:53] <csthepoet> none_, you know about the new version of ubuntu coming out?
[05:53] <silasj> none_, 512
[05:53] <RexKwonDo> I am trying to get Epiphany to launch XMMS whenever I select a link for a m3u playlist.  Epiphany just keeps launching mPlayer.  Any suggestions?
[05:54] <none_> silasj, that is enough that swap won't often be written
[05:54] <csthepoet> none_, you think that it might work with that one?'
[05:54] <none_> csthepoet, possibly
[05:54] <none_> the kernel is only 2 releases away from the one in hoary
[05:54] <csthepoet> none_, ok i'll wait til then to completely leave ubuntu then
[05:54] <silasj> none_, so is swap off for default?
[05:54] <none_> support between the two releases is kind of unlikely, but it's worth a try
[05:54] <none_> silasj, no
[05:54] <csthepoet> none_, yea i just really like ubuntu
[05:54] <none_> it will be used if you have no more physical ram
[05:55] <none_> ubuntu is a nice distro
[05:55] <csthepoet> none_, well thanks alot again
[05:55] <none_> probably the best for most people
[05:55] <none_> np
[05:55] <none_> good luck
[05:55] <silasj> every time ram is full, the computer stops... it seems not using swap...
[05:55] <csthepoet> none_, i'm heading out goodnight or good day wherever you are haha
[05:55] <vbgunz> anyone know how to integrate seahorse into Nautilus?
[05:55] <none_> same to you
[05:55] <csthepoet> Florida here btw
[05:55] <csthepoet> bye
[05:55] <Earthen> anyone know why i can't play video after installing ati drivers
[05:55] <none_> bye
[05:56] <none_> silasj, type "free" in a terminal
[05:56] <trigger_ph> anyone? i tried to make a launcher for a bash script but it doesn't run as expected..i get no visible output
[05:56] <none_> look at the swap size
[05:56] <esac> has anybody installed zimbra ?
[05:56] <silasj> none_, swap 0 0 0
[05:56] <thoreauputic> trigger_ph: you probably need the launcher to specify "run in terminal"
[05:56] <none_> trigger_ph, paste the script on the site in the topic and give us the url
[05:57] <pluffsy> btw. under kde what shall I select to get a working keyboard? there is nothing called Macintosh like there are under gnome. Now I have microsoft something selected, most keys work but not the pipe character which I kinda need to write code :p
[05:57] <none_> silasj, then you don't have a swap partition
[05:57] <none_> which is bad
[05:57] <none_> do you have any unallocated space on your drive?
[05:57] <BROKEN_LADDER> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb (--unpack): / trying to overwrite `/var/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions.d/00classic', which is also in package firefox / dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[05:57] <BROKEN_LADDER> need help.
[05:57] <thoreauputic> trigger_ph: or make the command for instance " gnome-terminal -e <yourdcript> "
[05:57] <BROKEN_LADDER> i have no firefox!
[05:58] <thoreauputic> trigger_ph: s/dcript/script
[05:58] <s3rp3nt> last question and ill leave everyone alone... I have a server that is being put on a 10Mbs Fiber connection on monday... Who do i need to contact to offer a mirror?
[05:58] <none_> BROKEN_LADDER, use apt-get to install  firefox
[05:58] <silasj> none_, strange... I'm sure I did one in the install... how can I make a new one?
[05:58] <none_> silasj, you need some unallocated space
[05:58] <none_> then mkswap /dev/hdXX swapon
[05:58] <none_> then mkswap /dev/hdXX; swapon
[05:58] <BROKEN_LADDER> none_ yeah, i did.
[05:59] <silasj> none_, cool thx.
[05:59] <BROKEN_LADDER> none_  i had firefox, but i did an apt-get update/upgrade, and now i don't.
[05:59] <none_> you need to allocate the space first with fdisk
[05:59] <Earthen> BROKEN_LADDER, I had that problem solved it by going and manuly deleting them file and them reinstall firfox again
[05:59] <none_> BROKEN_LADDER, apt-get --purge remove mozilla-firefox
[05:59] <BROKEN_LADDER> i have it but it doesn't start.
[05:59] <none_> then install it again
[06:00] <silasj> none_, swapon asks for arguments.
[06:00] <none_> silasj, add the partition to /etc/fstab
[06:00] <Earthen> BROKEN_LADDER, If it's like mine then you can probably start if from a console as root
[06:00] <trigger_ph> thoreauputic, what does the last one do? s/dcript/script ?
[06:00] <silasj> none_, uhm right.
[06:00] <BROKEN_LADDER> hmm..this is doing something..
[06:00] <thoreauputic> silasj: sudo swapon -a will do it if it's in /etc/fstab
[06:01] <BROKEN_LADDER> oh..it works again.
[06:01] <thoreauputic> trigger_ph: oh sorry I was correcting my typo :)
[06:01] <trigger_ph> thoreauputic, ah..ok
[06:01] <thoreauputic> trigger_ph: gnome-terminal -e <name of scipt >
[06:01] <thoreauputic> ha another one...
[06:01] <BROKEN_LADDER> i'm back in action baby! yeahhhh
[06:01] <none_> silasj, cfdisk
[06:01] <BROKEN_LADDER> none_ thx
[06:01] <none_> :D
[06:02] <Earthen> none_, I didn't know about that purge command, could of use that last week :)
[06:02] <silasj> none_, I have one swap partition.
[06:02] <trigger_ph> thoreauputic, i'm assuming if gnome-terminal is used as an argument for the command, the "run in terminal" check box must be unchecked..
[06:02] <none_> what is it's entry under /dev ?
[06:02] <thoreauputic> trigger_ph: you can make any command run in a terminal by saying " xterm -e command" or whatever
[06:03] <none_> Earthen, it's very useful
[06:03] <thoreauputic> trigger_ph: probably - haven't tried it
[06:03] <none_> having a bunch of config files laying around is annoying
[06:03] <thoreauputic> trigger_ph: I ususally jsut say " aterm -e <mycommand> "
[06:03] <Earthen> none_, I will have to try and keep that in mind
[06:03] <thoreauputic> works for any terminal
[06:03] <none_> silasj, /dev/hda5       none            swap    sw              0
[06:04] <none_> that is what you want in /etc/fstab
[06:04] <trigger_ph> thoreauputic, the script actually calls /usr/local/java/bin/java foo.jar
[06:04] <none_> change hda5 to whatever partition you made as swap
[06:04] <Earthen> none_, half the problem in linux I find is not knowing the commands, live and learn!
[06:04] <trigger_ph> thoreauputic: and it works fine if i run that from the terminal. i just need a launcher on the desktop to do the same..
[06:04] <silasj> none_, right.
[06:04] <none_> it takes a few years to get comfortable with all the different tools, that is for sure
[06:05] <thoreauputic> trigger_ph: should work then, as discussed - try it and see
[06:05] <dallas_> can someone give me a hand installing ubuntu on my laptop?
[06:05] <silasj> none_, swap on now! Thx!!!
[06:05] <none_> radical
[06:05] <thoreauputic> trigger_ph: would it not be ... java -jar foo.jar ? (I'm not a java person)
[06:06] <dallas_> anyone?
[06:06] <none_> what's the problem?
[06:06] <Travis|H> does Colony 5 use glitz to accelerate cairo?
[06:07] <trigger_ph> thoreauputic, the docs tell me to just do a java foo.jar. i'm not a java person too. hehe. anyway, it still doesn't launch the app. it does open a terminal though and closes it immediately thereafter
[06:07] <esac> what do the people on deviantart use to make cool looking wallpapers ? surely it can't just be gimp or photoshop (although some of them are so bad im sure they just use mspaint)
[06:07] <none_> that's what they use
[06:07] <none_> photoshop mostly
[06:07] <thoreauputic> trigger_ph: would it not be easier to just make a symlink to that path or add it to your path ?
[06:07] <fmasi> Hi I use an Hoary for 32bits but i have a amd64 I like to know if when i compile my kernel i nead to do it as 64bits or as 32 since all softwers are 32.
[06:08] <none_> fmasi, install the amd64 kernel
[06:08] <dallas_> anyone? ubuntu? laptop? no worky....
[06:08] <none_> actually..
[06:08] <none_> fmasi, get the ubuntu amd64 port
[06:08] <MadpilotPPC> trigger_ph, "java -jar <foo>.jar"
[06:09] <thoreauputic> MadpilotPPC: that's what I thought too
[06:09] <none_> fmasi, you don't want to compile a 64bit kernel with a 32bit userland
[06:09] <Jacko115> does anyone know how to start a program in a specific desktop
[06:09] <fmasi> none_ what is the amd64 port (i not a native english)
[06:09] <none_> really, amd64 support is mostly pointless unless you need >4 gigs of ram
[06:09] <MadpilotPPC> thoreauputic, although there is no such thing as Java for LInux-PPC, so I can't actually double-check that on this machine... :(
[06:09] <fmasi> none_ is every thing is in 3 i can still compile as 64
[06:09] <trigger_ph> thoreauputic, oh..so an absolute path to the script in the command text box won't work? anyway, i'll try the symlink and see if it does..
[06:10] <thoreauputic> trigger_ph: an absolute path should work, yes
[06:10] <Earthen> I need help with totem and mplayer
[06:10] <none_> fmasi, there are a few version of ubuntu: x86, amd64, PPC and maybe another
[06:10] <none_> you need the amd64 port
[06:10] <Jacko115> what problems are you hacing Earthen?
[06:11] <none_> however, it is unnecessary unless you are doing floating point math or encoding of some sort
[06:11] <Earthen> Jacko115, I installed the ATI driver and it killed my video playes, 3d run fine though
[06:11] <fmasi> none_ what i pepole told me is that the thing whith ubuntu 64 is that i dont have as menny softwers thats why i usa a 32
[06:11] <Earthen> Jacko115, they just don't start anymore
[06:11] <fmasi> none_ so i should usa the 32bits kernel ?
[06:11] <F-GT> anyone decent with grub that can give me a hand ?
[06:11] <thoreauputic> trigger_ph: you didn't leave out the -e before your command. I hope?
[06:12] <dallas_> anyone?? ubuntu installation problems
[06:12] <none_> fmasi, yes, especially if you want to play media encoded in a proprietary format
[06:12] <none_> and if you want games
[06:12] <F-GT> have 2 drives .. ubuntu + windows .. installed windows first then ubuntu on a separate drive each
[06:12] <none_> 3d games
[06:12] <F-GT> if i disable the windows drive .. grub fails to load
[06:12] <MadpilotPPC> dallas_, more details in your question would probably get you more help...
[06:12] <thoreauputic> trigger_ph: oh - did you give the right pathe to your foo.jar?
[06:12] <fmasi> none_ so i realy should usa a 32 bits kernel whith a 32 bits softwer
[06:12] <F-GT> obviously it's referencing to the windows drive which I want to change
[06:13] <dallas_> I am not getting any display on my screen after the inital splash when I start the install
[06:13] <F-GT> each time i redo grub it does the same thing .. doesnt change a thing
[06:13] <none_> F-GT, man grub
[06:13] <Earthen> Jacko115: do you have some idea's maybe?
[06:13] <none_> fmasi, yes
[06:13] <b3nw> has anyone ever been able to play a .mvk file?
[06:13] <F-GT> already read grub documentation
[06:13] <fmasi> none_ ok thx
[06:13] <none_> man grub-install
[06:13] <geneo93> mvk will work in mplayer
[06:14] <vbgunz> how do I remove context menu items? I have a bunch of menu items from "right-clicking and opening with"... how do clear this?
[06:14] <none_> you need the matroska codecs b3nw
[06:14] <b3nw> i installed
[06:14] <b3nw> still don't work
[06:14] <none_> what about mplayer?
[06:15] <b3nw> with gstreamer i get nothing
[06:15] <b3nw> with xine i get sound
[06:15] <b3nw> with mplayer I get video
[06:15] <b3nw> its a fun game ^_^
[06:15] <grigora> hi, I just deleted a partition which I thought about installing Windows 2000 on and somehow that screwed up my grub. this drive has a Windoze XP on it and I used to be able to dual-boot from grub, now I am not sure whether I should install grub on MBR or will that screw up WindowsXP boot? thanks for any help
[06:15] <none_> mplayer -vo esd filename
[06:15] <b3nw> vlc is also useless ;)
[06:15] <none_> try that
[06:15] <none_> er
[06:15] <b3nw> sec
[06:15] <none_> mplayer -ao esd filename
[06:15] <none_> that
[06:15] <vbgunz> please, anyone know why seahorse is not integrated with Nautilus? this is really sucking harcore, please help!
[06:15] <b3nw> sadly i had to boot back into windows to watch
[06:15] <b3nw> lemme go back
[06:15] <none_> ok
[06:17] <grigora> oh yes, and after I deleted the Win2000 partition which was /dev/hda5, my Linux root partition which used to be /dev/hda6 took its place becoming /dev/hda5 and I adjusted my /etc/fstab and menu.lst files accordingly, still no luck
[06:17] <none_> grigora, grub will look for windows
[06:17] <grigora> none_: what do you mean?
[06:17] <none_> install it MBR; if it doesn't show up automatically then you can edit grub.conf
[06:18] <vbgunz> I removed those right click menu options... Someone please tell me how to integrate Seahorse with Nautilus?
[06:18] <thoreauputic> none_: /boot/grub/menu.lst in ubuntu
[06:18] <grigora> none_: but will installing GRUB on MBR in any way screw up the Windoze XP boot?
[06:18] <dallas_> Anyone? I am trying to install ubuntu on a panasonic laptop. I have tried booting it using the vga=771 switch(the installer says to use it on laptops with display issues) and all I get is a black screen
[06:18] <cav> Where should I go to find a guide about installing programs, specifically MPlayer?
[06:18] <none_> menu.lst is created from grub.conf
[06:18] <DaSkreech> is there still an Ubuntu calendar?
[06:19] <thoreauputic> none_: the file to edit is the one I mentioned
[06:19] <agent32> how do u install things in the OS
[06:19] <none_> ok then
[06:19] <none_> grigora, refer to thoreauputic
[06:19] <none_> GregAsche, no
[06:19] <none_> er
[06:19] <none_> grigora, it won't screw it up
[06:19] <b3nw> none_ - sound but definantly not the right sound, just a high piched noise
[06:20] <bobulor> greetings and salutations
[06:20] <none_> weird
[06:20] <none_> well..
[06:20] <none_> kilall -15 esd
[06:20] <thoreauputic> none_: if you do "locate grub.conf " you'll see that file doesn't exist in Debian/Ubuntu (it's a Red Hat ism)
[06:20] <MadpilotPPC> DaSkreech, not current, but the old wallpapers are still in the repos
[06:20] <none_> then run mplayer again
[06:20] <DaSkreech> MadpilotPPC: There hasn't been a new pic since april?
[06:20] <grigora> thoreauputic: thanks, I know the file to edit, but I am not sure what's wrong with it
[06:20] <none_> hmm, sure isn't.. i'm used to gentoo, i guess
[06:20] <b3nw> none_ now no sound at all
[06:21] <dallas_> Anyone? I am trying to install ubuntu on a panasonic laptop. I have tried booting it using the vga=771 switch(the installer says to use it on laptops with display issues) and all I get is a black screen
[06:21] <bobulor> does anyone here know a thing or two about Cedega?
[06:21] <none_> don't do -ao esd
[06:21] <thoreauputic> grigora: right - I was just telling none_ about it :)
[06:21] <b3nw> same sound
[06:21] <grigora> thoreauputic: the partition numbering was shifter by one (hda6 became hda5) and I edited menu.lst accordingly, but it stopped loading
[06:21] <delp> is there any program on linux you can watch wmv on?
[06:21] <none_> seems like you don't have the write codecs..
[06:21] <MadpilotPPC> DaSkreech, I don't think so. I did hear something about it possibly restarting, though...
[06:21] <none_> so it's just garbage
[06:22] <none_> don't know though
[06:22] <vbgunz> anybody? any idea? how to integrate Seahorse with Nautilus? Seahorse has the whackest documentation ever...*but* it seems pretty good overall... Anyone any ideas? How to integrate Seahorse with Nautilus?
[06:22] <b3nw> hmm ;\
[06:22] <thoreauputic> grigora: yes, so I understood you to mean
[06:22] <MadpilotPPC> delp, yes.
[06:22] <delp> what is it?
[06:22] <DaSkreech> MadpilotPPC: Ok thats fine then I jsut thought something was wrong with my setup
[06:22] <MadpilotPPC> !tell delp about restricted
[06:22] <none_> come to think of it, i had some problems playing matroska  files awhile back
[06:22] <none_> i don't think i ever got them to work
[06:22] <tritium> dallas_, what "display issue" are you experiencing, which led you to try vga=771?
[06:22] <thoreauputic> grigora: /dev/hda5 seems an unusual place to successfully have a windows partition though
[06:23] <dallas_> tritium, I get no display, that is the issue :)
[06:23] <grigora> thoreauputic: it almost seems like the partition I deleted (hda5) had grub installed on it ... since deleting it, screwed up everything ... but I can't figure out how GRUB would load at startup ...
[06:23] <trigger_ph_> arghh..i think my conn fizzed
[06:23] <none_> grub isn't installed on a partition
[06:23] <tritium> dallas_, you don't see a single screen of the installer?
[06:23] <grigora> thoreauputic: I created that partition to install Win2000 but later didn't have a need for it, so I deleted it
[06:23] <thoreauputic> grigora: do you know what's in your mbr?
[06:23] <dallas_> tritum, just the splash screen
[06:24] <none_> not by default anyway
[06:24] <grigora> thoreauputic: no I don't ... I am guessing because GRUB would load on startup that that's what is on my MBR, but I am not sure
[06:24] <thoreauputic> grigora: it would be the first 512 bytes of /dev/hda IIRC
[06:25] <thoreauputic> grigora: when you boot do you see any grub messages? errors?
[06:25] <thoreauputic> grigora: if not it probably isn't there on the MBR
[06:26] <none_> in which case you need to use grub-instal
[06:26] <grigora> thoreauputic: yes, I do see grub loading, then error 15
[06:26] <Jacko115> Earthen you could see if vids work in another program like xine...
[06:26] <thoreauputic> grigora: ah, OK it *is* on the MBR then
[06:26] <dallas_> tritum, the last thing I see is loading initrd.gz................ okay, ready, then nothing but I can still hear the cd spinning.
[06:26] <Earthen> Jacko115: xine mm I hav eto install it
[06:26] <F-GT> none_ so why does grub install still look at the windows drive ?
[06:26] <F-GT> do i need to remove the stage1, 2 & 3 ?
[06:26] <grigora> thoreauputic: great!!! so why changing the partition numbering screws up everything?
[06:27] <none_> F-GT, ???
[06:27] <grigora> thoreauputic: how should I go about repairing it?
[06:27] <tritium> dallas_, I'll be back...
[06:27] <F-GT> well if i do a grub install on /dev/hda it still doesnt boot
[06:27] <thoreauputic> grigora: not sure - it's possible to get grub to find your bootable partitions though
[06:27] <F-GT> without having the windows drive connected
[06:27] <F-GT> which is hdb
[06:27] <Earthen> Jacko115: mplayer give me an error opening/initializing the selected video_out(-vo)device
[06:27] <adjacent> im getting an error with python about not finding the web module. even though its been installed from the repos
[06:27] <none_> grub goes by whatever is in menu.1st and whatever you set as root= when running grub-install
[06:27] <thoreauputic> grigora: I forget the exact way, but you use the grub command line feature
[06:28] <adjacent> should python -m web present output?
[06:28] <F-GT> hmmm will check
[06:28] <thoreauputic> none_: grub can also find  stuff for you from its shell
[06:28] <none_> F-GT, maybe you have two installations of grub
[06:28] <grigora> thoreauputic: do you have any idea what's causing the problem ... I don't need an exact command
[06:28] <F-GT> nope
[06:28] <F-GT> i did a fixmbr on the windows drive .. it boots by itself
[06:28] <thoreauputic> grigora: no, sorry - I might have a link to a grub howto here if you wait a minute
[06:29] <bobulor> !tell Bobulor about drivers
[06:29] <none_> Earthen, mplayer -vo help for available outputs
[06:29] <none_> F-GT, not sure then
[06:29] <F-GT> yet grub seems to bork itself every time i install it back on the ubuntu drive
[06:29] <F-GT> but if i hook the windows drive up .. it boots fine
[06:29] <grigora> thoreauputic: no problem, what about using the Ubuntu CD? does it have repair functionality?
[06:29] <shaoqi> anyone know what can i use to open .rar files?
[06:29] <none_> shaoqi, unrar
[06:29] <noangel_magz> hello
[06:29] <grigora> shaoqi: try unrar
[06:30] <shaoqi> none, grigora. thanks:0
[06:30] <none_> grigora, no repair functionality beyond grub itself
[06:30] <noangel_magz> hello to all
[06:30] <none_> you can use it to boot the installed system
[06:30] <thoreauputic> grigora:  http://www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com/netos/article.php/3340051  << good article
[06:31] <Earthen> none_: ok
[06:31] <F-GT> actually grub gets to stage 1.5 and hangs without the windows drive connected
[06:31] <F-GT> so it looks at the windows drive for some reason
[06:31] <none_> some of the video outputs require you to be root
[06:31] <thoreauputic> grigora: sge tells you how to use grub to find root / kernel partitions etc
[06:31] <Earthen> none_: how do I enable some of that stuff
[06:32] <thoreauputic> grigora: sorry that should have said "she"
[06:32] <none_> Earthen, mplayer -vo whatever filename
[06:32] <none_> go through them if you are having trouble playing videos
[06:32] <xuniluser> HELP: when i used mkisofs in a newly installed ubuntu, it worked. Then when i updated my ubuntu, mkisofs tells me that there is an input/output error. What should i do?
[06:33] <bobulor> !tell Bobulor about Cedega
[06:33] <shaoqi> i've install unrar, but i can't find it anywhere.
[06:33] <shaoqi> anyone can help? thansk
[06:33] <paulproteus> shaoqi: It's in /usr/bin/unrar
[06:35] <shaoqi> i want to use it to open rar files, i tried using open using other applications, but unrar is not in the list.
[06:35] <none_> shaoqi, do you have the universe repositories?
[06:35] <paulproteus> shaoqi: It's not a GUI program.
[06:35] <paulproteus> It's a command-line program.
[06:35] <none_> apt-get install unrar-nonfree
[06:35] <none_> unrar x file.rar
[06:35] <shaoqi> oh it's not a GUI program
[06:36] <shaoqi> is there any gui program for opening rar files?
[06:36] <geneo93> fileroller
[06:37] <Pickle_Weasel> where can i set my monitor to turn off after a certain time? >.>
[06:37] <geneo93> but you stillneed unrar
[06:37] <Dexter> Hello, everyone
[06:37] <Dexter> ;)
[06:38] <mmartino> hey dex
[06:38] <adjacent> how do i send ^Q to a terminal window to unlock it in gnome? it prompts to close the app...
[06:40] <Dexter> hi, mmartiono
[06:40] <shaoqi> i tried opening an unrar file using the command line, but the process failed. any reasons why?
[06:40] <bobulor> Every time I quit World of Warcraft, the computer freezes and I have to force my way into command line or do a force restart on the machine to get it working again. Does anyone know how this problem might be solved?
[06:41] <dallas_> mmmmmm world of warcraft
[06:41] <none_> shaoqi, the GPL unrar sucks
[06:41] <none_> install unrar-nonfree
[06:41] <playdohchum> hi
[06:41] <playdohchum> i need help with ubuntu
[06:41] <playdohchum> why is the resolution so big
[06:41] <shaoqi> none_, it's (unrar-nonfree) not available for me.
[06:41] <MadpilotPPC> !+fixres
[06:41] <ubotu> I guess fixres is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:41] <MadpilotPPC> playdohchum, see the link above ^^^
[06:41] <none_> !repos
[06:41] <ubotu> repos is, like, totally, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[06:42] <none_> shaoqi .. ^^^] 
[06:42] <MadpilotPPC> shaoqi, it's in Multiverse repo
[06:42] <jmg> bug in ppp/pptp in breezy?
[06:42] <playdohchum> uh
[06:42] <none_> ahh
[06:43] <playdohchum> is it because i'm using the live version?
[06:43] <none_> sorry shaoqi
[06:43] <none_> playdohchum, yes
[06:43] <MadpilotPPC> playdohchum, you can fix it in the LiveCD, but you'll have to fix it again every time you reboot, AFAIK
[06:43] <jmg> *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (fasttop): 0x08057568 ***
[06:43] <playdohchum> okay, thanks
[06:43] <playdohchum> #ubuntu
[06:44] <none_> jmg, got gdb?
[06:44] <shaoqi> madpilotppc, what is multiverse repo?
[06:44] <dallas_> Anyone? I am trying to install ubuntu on a panasonic laptop. I have tried booting it using the vga=771 switch(the installer says to use it on laptops with display issues) and all I get is a black screen
[06:44] <Belutz_zzz> multiverse, non-free, not supported
[06:44] <shaoqi> then how can i get unrar-nonfree from there?
[06:45] <playdohchum> jason
[06:45] <playdohchum> i no understando
[06:45] <none_> apt-get install unrar-nonfree
[06:45] <procrastinationn> should i install 5.04 and remove 5.10 ???
[06:45] <none_> !repos
[06:45] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[06:45] <jmg> help
[06:45] <Belutz> just do apt-get install unrar-nonfree
[06:45] <jmg> none_: heh
[06:45] <MadpilotPPC> !tell shaoqi about repositories
[06:45] <AngryParsley> why are there so many updates for stuff I don't need?
[06:46] <iamsobored00566> WAZZUP
[06:46] <none_> jmg, that's a library error.. improperly compiled program
[06:46] <AngryParsley> like the x server drivers for cirrus logic boards or somethng
[06:46] <playdohchum> WAZZUP
[06:46] <MadpilotPPC> Belutz, if you don't have the right repos installed, apt-get won't work any better than Synaptic...
[06:46] <AngryParsley> in fact the graphics drivers for every chipset but ati
[06:46] <B_166-ER-X> What IS the grey moving live under the nick list in X-chat ??
[06:46] <shaoqi> Package unrar-nonfree is not available
[06:46] <dell500> how do i set gnome to be the default window manager?
[06:46] <none_> B_166-ER-X, away
[06:46] <AngryParsley> B_166-ER-X: lag meter
[06:46] <B_166-ER-X> he
[06:46] <B_166-ER-X> ok, and away lag meter then
[06:46] <none_> oh, under it
[06:46] <playdohchum> i don't understand anything on the website
[06:46] <none_> nope not away
[06:47] <jmg> jmg: its pppd
[06:47] <AngryParsley> I was right
[06:47] <B_166-ER-X> oky
[06:47] <jmg> er none_: this is breezy
[06:47] <B_166-ER-X> nice thx
[06:47] <MadpilotPPC> playdohchum, which website?
[06:47] <none_> can you reproduce the error?
[06:47] <jmg> none_: is this bug fixed in latest?
[06:47] <jmg> none_: every time i run pptp
[06:47] <playdohchum> the one you gave me
[06:47] <none_> do you know how to use gdb?
[06:48] <playdohchum> why is the font red
[06:48] <jmg> none_: gdb wont backtrace
[06:48] <geneo93> none_:  i couldn't get pppd to work either
[06:48] <NsOmNiAc> under ubuntu is there a text based way to recofigure the video card for X ?
[06:48] <MadpilotPPC> playdohchum, xchat turns the font red when a line starts w/ your nick
[06:48] <none_> well, i don't have dial up
[06:48] <none_> i'd report it if you can't find it on the buglist
[06:48] <jmg> none_ kvpnc
[06:48] <playdohchum> ...huh
[06:49] <none_> that's a potential security flaw
[06:49] <iamsobored00566> yoyoyo
[06:49] <Jacko115> does anyone know how to start a program in a specific desktop?
[06:49] <iamsobored00566> i like to play yoyo
[06:49] <dallas_> Anyone? I am trying to install ubuntu on a panasonic laptop. I have tried booting it using the vga=771 switch(the installer says to use it on laptops with display issues) and all I get is a black screen
[06:49] <playdohchum> bye. thanks?
[06:50] <shaoqi> erm. so how do i get unrar-nonfree?
[06:50] <MadpilotPPC> shaoqi, it's in the Multiverse repository, you just need to enable it first
[06:50] <none_> i thought breezy came with debugging compiled in the main software
[06:50] <bobulor> none_, how do i install unrar-nonfree?
[06:51] <none_> guess not
[06:51] <MadpilotPPC> shaoqi, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[06:51] <Travis|H> ok, so i am up and running .. one thing i notice .. when i drag a window around over another window .. it sort of leaves this trail or something .. like the old style mouse cursors people used where it would leave a tail that would show where the mouse was ........ what is that about
[06:51] <none_> jmg, kvpnc?
[06:51] <shaoqi> madpilotppc, then how do i enable it? i went to that site already. where does it tells me how to do it?
[06:51] <thoreauputic> !info unrar-nonfree
[06:51] <crimsun> none_, no. It follows Debian Policy in that regard.
[06:51] <ubotu> unrar-nonfree: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 82 kB, Installed size: 208 kB
[06:51] <blueyed> Which script generates the original /etc/network/interfaces file on install? I want to regenerate it.
[06:52] <brett> After some wrestling, I got Ubuntu/hoary to recognise my audio. Sadly, i can't log in with X, after the audio halts abruptly. Is there a way of removing sound from the login until I can repair that?
[06:52] <crimsun> none_, the only exceptions being the -dbg packages
[06:52] <MadpilotPPC> shaoqi, do you have Synaptic running?
[06:52] <jmg> none_: checking in bugzilla
[06:52] <k-boon> hmm, I'm really considering switching to Ubuntu, but I'm not sure about the whole license issue with it being based in South Africa in all.  Don't communist countries require that all software be looked at by the government before public distribution?
[06:52] <shaoqi> madpilotppc, yes..
[06:52] <none_> crimsun, i see
[06:52] <crimsun> k-boon, that's FUD.
[06:52] <thoreauputic> k-boon: huh?
[06:52] <bobulor> !tell Bobulor about unrar-nonfree
[06:53] <MadpilotPPC> k-boon, WTF are you smoking? South Africa isn't Communist, for starters...
[06:53] <jmg> k-boon: south africa is communist?
[06:53] <k-boon> that's what my friend said
[06:53] <MadpilotPPC> shaoqi, follow the screenshots on that page, then
[06:53] <MadpilotPPC> k-boon, your friend is on drugs, right?
[06:53] <k-boon> he's a computer science major
[06:53] <MadpilotPPC> so he's a CompSci major on drugs, then
[06:53] <brett> ...Butapparently not a law major :)
[06:54] <none_> that's pretty irrelevant considering the GPL
[06:54] <shaoqi> madpilotppc, i already have community maintained (universe) checked..
[06:54] <k-boon> what?
[06:54] <thoreauputic> k-boon: apart from which ubuntu is actually based in the Isle of Man
[06:54] <MadpilotPPC> shaoqi, Multiverse is a seperate repo to Universe
[06:54] <blueyed> found it: /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/generate-interfaces.pl.gz
[06:54] <thoreauputic> cannical anyway
[06:54] <thoreauputic> *canonical
[06:54] <k-boon> hmm the Isle of Man?
[06:55] <bored2k> What's the shutdown command issued when I click on the panel shutdown icon ?
[06:55] <bobulor> none_, how do i install unrar-nonfree (in newb terms please in case you already said something and I missed it)
[06:55] <k-boon> where's that?
[06:55] <geneo93> shaoqi:  did you do apt-get update
[06:55] <MadpilotPPC> k-boon, in the Irish Sea - it's part of the UK...
[06:55] <none_> bobulor, one sec
[06:55] <thoreauputic> k-boon: look up an atlas, man
[06:55] <MadpilotPPC> and no, it's not Communist either
[06:55] <none_> bobulor, are you using hoary?
[06:55] <shaoqi> geneo93, i reloaded in synaptic
[06:55] <k-boon> please don't be mad at me, I am just asking questions as I am curious and I need to know these things
[06:56] <geneo93> do a search in synaptic then shaoqi
[06:56] <thoreauputic> k-boon: no-one's mad at you - amazed would be more like it
[06:56] <shaoqi> geneo93, it's not there.
[06:56] <MadpilotPPC> k-boon, the license that Ubuntu is released under means that *anyone* can look at the software code - it's called the GPL. Human-readable summary here: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/GPL/2.0/
[06:56] <none_> bobulor, sudo echo " deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe multiverse" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:56] <none_> apt-get update
[06:57] <glDaher> hi, this is begining to kill me off slowly... my /etc/resolv.conf file is changed to point to my modem as the only nameserver ... using pppoe ...
[06:57] <glDaher> I checked my dhclient.conf file with no luck
[06:57] <none_> how did you manage to get on here then, glDaher ?
[06:58] <k-boon> MadpilotPPC: I've read about Linus Torvolds, is he the maker of Ubuntu? Is Ubuntu linux like Redhat?
[06:58] <bobulor> none_, I think I'm using Hoary, not sure
[06:58] <latem> that i've heard so many great things about ubuntu linux, but i cannot download it due to the communist south africa =/
[06:58] <latem> i will be deported.
[06:58] <none_> bobulor, well try what i just said
[06:58] <glDaher> none_: I manually edit the file every 10 minutes... been like that for a month :(
[06:58] <yaaar> you're a weird guy, latem
[06:58] <geneo93> shaoqi:  check the /etc/apt/sources.ist and make sure its not commented out
[06:58] <none_> glDaher, you can specify nameservers in dhclient.conf
[06:59] <MadpilotPPC> k-boon, it's a bit more complex than that, but the core of Ubuntu is like the core of Redhat, and that core was invented by Torvalds...
[06:59] <glDaher> none_: I even tried chattr =i  ... but needs ext2
[06:59] <shaoqi> geneo93, which line are you referring to?
[06:59] <latem> yaa: the package management doesnt fit into my countries "legal guidelines"
[06:59] <glDaher> none_: yeah, that's what I did, still not working
[06:59] <thoreauputic> k-boon: http://ubuntu.com and read all about it - also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[06:59] <glDaher> wanna have a look at my dhglient.conf ?
[06:59] <bobulor> does anyone know how to copy and paste stuff out of X-chat?
[06:59] <latem> THE CORE OF REDHAT?
[06:59] <none_> bobulor, highlight the text you want.. it's copied
[06:59] <none_> shift+insert to paste
[06:59] <Earthen> none_: hey thanks I got MPlayer working now
[06:59] <k-boon> Oh wait, like Fedora's Core?
[06:59] <crimsun> latem, stop trolling. Now.
[06:59] <latem> the linux kernel was invented by linus
[06:59] <none_> Earthen, cool
[07:00] <latem> not the core of redhat
[07:00] <geneo93> the multiuniverse line
[07:00] <none_> glDaher, ok
[07:00] <thoreauputic> k-boon: the kernel is linux
[07:00] <jmg> how do i check out something from sid apt instead of main? apt-get source ppp/sid ?
[07:00] <Earthen> none_: I guess i need to do the same kinda trick for totem also?
[07:00] <k-boon> hmm
[07:00] <none_> sid is debian jmg
[07:00] <MadpilotPPC> k-boon, FedoraCore is another version of Linux
[07:00] <dallas_> Anyone? I am trying to install ubuntu on a panasonic laptop. I have tried booting it using the vga=771 switch(the installer says to use it on laptops with display issues) and all I get is a black screen
[07:00] <none_> Earthen, yes
[07:00] <k-boon> ok, so it's a core, but not a similar core, Like BSD?
[07:00] <none_> mplayer is the best out there
[07:01] <latem> redhat package management is soooooo buggy though.
[07:01] <none_> also. ~/.mplayer/config
[07:01] <none_> if you add: vo=whatever
[07:01] <none_> to it
[07:01] <latem> i've read that at mircrosft.com
[07:01] <none_> then it will use that output all the time
[07:01] <jmg> none_ yes i need to get the source for it from sid
[07:01] <k-boon> My friend said that BSD had a core, and a better mascott than linux, and he said that it is more "uptime"
[07:01] <latem> i was thinking about microsoft linux
[07:01] <thoreauputic> k-boon: BSD has a different kernel and other differences
[07:01] <k-boon> hmm
[07:01] <Earthen> none_: yeah I changes the mplayer.conf fig file
[07:01] <k-boon> but why doesn't it support USB?
[07:01] <latem> k-boon, you should try the microsoft linux!
[07:01] <none_> ah, ok
[07:01] <thoreauputic> k-boon: your friend should take his medication
[07:01] <F-GT> grrrrr @ grub
[07:01] <MadpilotPPC> latem, you're trolling again...
[07:02] <bobulor> none_, i copied the command into terminal, it said "bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied
[07:02] <bobulor> "
[07:02] <latem> whats that mean?
[07:02] <latem> trolling?
[07:02] <geneo93> BSD is a long way from desktop use
[07:02] <Earthen> No1Viking: that will not effect totem though
[07:02] <glDaher> none_: here my dhclient.conf http://rafb.net/paste/results/Ppywnd81.html
[07:02] <none_> bobulor, you can't run the file
[07:02] <latem> tell me and i'll stop, i dont know what that means.
[07:02] <thoreauputic> latem: warning time
[07:02] <none_> bobulor, edit it however you want
[07:02] <No1Viking> Earthen: huh?
[07:02] <dallas_> I am trying to install ubuntu on a panasonic laptop. I have tried booting it using the vga=771 switch(the installer says to use it on laptops with display issues) and all I get is a black screen
[07:02] <none_> with whatever you want, thati s
[07:03] <bobulor> none_, i have no skill in linux, I dont want to go messing with files. Besides, how will editing a file in any manner I please solve the problem?
[07:03] <k-boon> geneo93: yes, but he said that it's core has more uptime, unfortunately it does not have much USB support and does not support video cards
[07:03] <Earthen> No1Viking: sorry typing to fast i was talking to none_
[07:03] <jmg> none_: rebuilding package
[07:03] <jmg> pppd
[07:04] <MadpilotPPC> k-boon, uptime just means "how long has it been since this machine has been rebooted" - it's only really an issue for servers
[07:04] <none_> glDaher, put the prepend in alias {}
[07:04] <No1Viking> Earthen: OK! :)
[07:04] <geneo93> uptime dont really mean much if you cant use it
[07:04] <glDaher> none_: ok
[07:04] <k-boon> why doesn't it support video cards like Linux Core then?
[07:04] <none_> also, add a ; to the end of those
[07:04] <none_> try that first
[07:05] <geneo93> because its a server based thing
[07:05] <thoreauputic> k-boon: BSD is kind of off-topic here really
[07:05] <k-boon> hmm, I'm sorry
[07:05] <k-boon> english is not my first language
[07:05] <none_> bobulor, editing the file will let you use the multiverse repository.. that is what you need to install unrar-nonfree
[07:06] <geneo93> free-bsd net-bsd and a few others do but not as good as linux
[07:06] <k-boon> please don't be mad, I am just trying to understand what my friend tell me
[07:06] <bobulor> none_, how do i edit the file and what do I edit?
[07:06] <dallas_> I am trying to install ubuntu on a panasonic laptop. I have tried booting it using the vga=771 switch(the installer says to use it on laptops with display issues) and all I get is a black screen
[07:06] <none_> !repos
[07:06] <k-boon> I do lots of things with usb, and the support is not good
[07:06] <ubotu> repos is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[07:06] <geneo93> your friend dont know to much then
[07:06] <none_> i gotta go
[07:06] <none_> later
[07:06] <none_> bobulor, read that
[07:06] <k-boon> he said firewire might cause my motherboard to fry if used in Unix
[07:07] <thoreauputic> k-boon: don't listen to him
[07:07] <k-boon> where can I download the ubuntu (unix) with the good firewire driver?
[07:07] <geneo93> this is not unix
[07:07] <k-boon> what?
[07:07] <k-boon> ah shit
[07:07] <k-boon> `night gents
[07:08] <xuniluser> HELP: when i used mkisofs in a newly installed ubuntu, it worked. Then when i updated my ubuntu, mkisofs tells me that there is an input/output error. What should i do?
[07:08] <k-boon> lol
[07:08] <k-boon> it's all in good fun
[07:08] <none_> linux is unix ;)
[07:08] <k-boon> aw
[07:08] <geneo93> go fun with mandriva or debian
[07:08] <P229> wow
[07:08] <k-boon> alright
[07:09] <k-boon> thought I'd liven it up in here
[07:09] <k-boon> you guys are good people
[07:09] <MadpilotPPC> gah... we get enough odd questions here without people inventing new ones...
[07:09] <jmg> problem with pptp guys
[07:09] <k-boon> keep it up
[07:09] <jmg> Non-zero Async Control Character Maps are not
[07:09] <jmg> supported!
[07:09] <alpha-romeo> hi folks
[07:09] <alpha-romeo> i just started off with ubunto
[07:09] <P229> yeah, don't take advantage of the community!
[07:09] <deFrysk> ubuntu*
[07:10] <alpha-romeo> i want to know how 2 configure DNS setting
[07:10] <alpha-romeo> Network tools doest show any DNS tab
[07:11] <alpha-romeo> I am migrating from RH ....
[07:11] <yaaar> alpha-romeo: vi /etc/resolv.conf
[07:12] <CarlFK> alpha-romeo - there is a place for DNS ips inthe network gui - I saw it a few weeks ago
[07:12] <dallas_> I am trying to install ubuntu on a panasonic laptop. I have tried booting it using the vga=771 switch(the installer says to use it on laptops with display issues) and all I get is a black screen
[07:13] <MadpilotPPC> dallas_, have you searched the Ubuntu forums?
[07:13] <dallas_> MadpilotPPC, I looked there, it is a realy weird video card in a fairly rare laptop
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> A collectable! :P
[07:14] <MadpilotPPC> dallas_, you may be SOL, then, but ask Google as well...
[07:15] <dallas_> MadpilotPPC, is there anyway I could add the drivers to the install disc?
[07:15] <bobulor> .away
[07:16] <MadpilotPPC> dallas_, no idea, sorry
[07:17] <dallas_> MadpilotPPC, I have a suse 8.2 disto here that installs fine anything newer then that won't install. Same issue every time black screen after the splash
[07:17] <MadpilotPPC> dallas_, you should probably start a thread on the U forums, that's a better place for more in-depth discussions than here...
[07:18] <dallas_> MadpilotPPC, okay, thanks.
[07:18] <mmartino> has anyone installed qemu with kqemu?
[07:18] <Travis|H> when i drag windows around (especially when i drag them over a firefox window) they leave a sort of "trail" (repeated image that looks to be a glitch), .. anyone else have this happen or know why it happens?
[07:18] <thoreauputic> mmartino: not with kqemu - did you see the howto on the wiki?
[07:19] <thoreauputic> !qemu
[07:19] <ubotu> I heard qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo or http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=200357&postcount=1
[07:19] <thoreauputic> Travis|H: sounds like a bad driver for your vid card perhaps
[07:20] <mmartino> thoreauputic Yeah I saw it but it didn't work
[07:20] <mmartino> thoreauputic I keep getting an error when running make
[07:20] <thoreauputic> mmartino: I played with it and got it working, but without the kqemu acceleration
[07:21] <mmartino> thoreauputic thats the problem I am having... kqemu will not install
[07:21] <mmartino> thoreauputic it can't find the module
[07:21] <thoreauputic> mmartino: hmm - can't help, sorry - I just used the standard packages
[07:22] <mmartino> ok thanks
[07:22] <Travis|H> ah here we go i managed to actually capture it in a screenshot ... http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/776/screenshot2wx.jpg <-- notice the glitching graphics of the window i am dragging.
[07:22] <thoreauputic> mmartino: did you install kernel source and / or headers?
[07:23] <thoreauputic> mmartino: I seem to vaguely remember the web site has a howto as well
[07:23] <mmartino> thoreauputic Yeah... I have checked several times
[07:24] <Travis|H> any ideas what might cause that kind of draw corruption?
[07:24] <mmartino> thoreauputic This is the Error I get......Warning: could not find /home/mmartino/qemu-0.7.2/kqemu/.kqemu-mod.o.cmd for /home/mmartino/qemu-0.7.2/kqemu/kqemu-mod.o
[07:24] <Tiggs> hello
[07:24] <Travis|H> when i stop dragging the window around it looks perfectly normal, and it doesn't really look nearly that bad when it does glitch the screenshot just caught it in a bad moment it seems :)
[07:25] <redbench> hello
[07:25] <Travis|H> reminds me of the old effect people would use on their mouse cursor that left a trail on it
[07:25] <Travis|H> =/
[07:25] <mmartino> I checked and the file is there... Permissions are right... I just don't get it
[07:25] <Tiggs> can ubuntu play dvds?
[07:25] <thoreauputic> Travis|H: woah - that's bizarre...
[07:25] <Travis|H> thoreauputic: agreed :)
[07:26] <geneo93> hehe typhoon longwang ,what a name
[07:26] <MadpilotPPC> Travis|H, I've seen black lines when maximizing/minimizing windows - at least on this old G4 - but nothing quite as funky as what you're getting...
[07:26] <hjack> I have a question..............I'd rather ask in a pm
[07:27] <hjack> for security reasons
[07:27] <thoreauputic> hjack: why?
[07:27] <thoreauputic> hmm
[07:27] <Travis|H> yea i also get the black lines when min/max but that looks like its by design
[07:27] <hjack> notice thoreauputic?
[07:27] <procrastinationn> none you here?
[07:28] <thoreauputic> hjack: how can anyone know if they can answer you when you won't say what it's about?
[07:29] <Travis|H> i'm going to try turning on "RenderAccel" "true" in my xorg.conf file and see if that helps at all
[07:29] <hjack> Did you get that?
[07:29] <Travis|H> be back after the reboot
[07:29] <glDaher> none_: I'm the guy with dhclient.conf problem... what you gave me didn't fix the problem... but playing with the config, I realized that I have simi-colon missing on the prepend lines...
[07:29] <crimsun> Travis|H, that's actually more likely to cause graphic artifacts
[07:29] <Tiggs> what do i need to add to get dvd playback?
[07:29] <glDaher> none_: really thanks for you trying to help!
[07:29] <none_> glDaher, i said that ;)
[07:29] <P229> hjack: what's the difference if you ask in the channel or if you /msg some random person?
[07:30] <P229> Tiggs: install xine and libdvdcss
[07:30] <Travis|H> hmm really
[07:30] <Travis|H> crimsun .. what would you suggest then?
[07:30] <glDaher> none_: yeah, reading the logs, you did, but GAIM crashed for me just a second later
[07:30] <glDaher> none_: so thanks you BIG TIME!
[07:30] <crimsun> Travis|H, disabling each XAA option successively
[07:30] <none_> ah, well at least it is working now
[07:30] <none_> :)
[07:30] <hjack> That way I am asking a single person instead of broadcasting it to group of people.  There are ppl who seem genuinely interested and helping and I feel a little more comfortable asking them
[07:31] <Travis|H> XAA option ...
[07:31] <Travis|H> where would i disable those at?
[07:31] <crimsun> Travis|H, driver section
[07:31] <hjack> p229
[07:31] <hjack> would you help?
[07:31] <P229> hjack: I'm genuinely interested in helping, but I (and many others) find /msg's annoying as heck
[07:31] <_pir> helo. I'm using auto-apt while compiling, it ask me if I want to d/l "libgtk-perl" I press Y, and libgtk-perl is downloaded, but then I get the same question, over and over...
[07:31] <hjack> how about notice then?
[07:31] <procrastinationn> help E: Couldn't find package w32codecs
[07:31] <P229> hjack: channel
[07:32] <hjack> *sigh*
[07:32] <hjack> no
[07:32] <Tiggs> dvdcss isnt in the synaptic
[07:32] <Travis|H> hmm I don't even have a Section "Driver"
[07:32] <hjack> But thank you
[07:32] <crimsun> hjack, sanitise the sensitive information and ask the broad question
[07:32] <hjack> I can't
[07:32] <hjack> It is not possible
[07:32] <crimsun> ...not...possible?
[07:33] <hjack> exactly
[07:33] <crimsun> even'n' mike
[07:33] <Travis|H> well i'm gonna try rebooting anywho .. we'll see
[07:33] <tritium> hi crimsun
[07:34] <P229> hjack: ok
[07:34] <crimsun> hjack, any security-critical situation can be abstracted into a broader description with the sensitive information sanitised.
[07:34] <thoreauputic> hjack: if it's as sensitive as that, thenIRC seems an odd place to ask about it
[07:34] <FlyingSquirrel32> Ok folks I'm having trouble installing ubuntu on a SATA drive... any suggestions? Looks like I'm not the only one.
[07:34] <P229> hjack: google works, I guess :)
[07:34] <grigora> thoreauputic: root (hd0,4); setup (hd0) - did the trick
[07:34] <crimsun> hjack, but like thoreauputic stated, if it's that critical, drive to the DC and ask your admin.
[07:34] <MadpilotPPC> FlyingSquirrel32, it worked perfectly on my home machine...
[07:34] <grigora> thoreauputic: thanks again
[07:34] <thoreauputic> grigora: aha! :)
[07:34] <hjack> Fine, I don't know my root password and wasn't asked for one during install and was wondering (as I sit here and broadcast this) if there is a default password?
[07:35] <MadpilotPPC> !root
[07:35] <ubotu> I guess root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[07:35] <grigora> does anyone know the version of Postgresql available for Ubuntu?
[07:35] <thoreauputic> !root
[07:35] <MadpilotPPC> hjack, see ubotu's post above, please
[07:35] <FlyingSquirrel32> I tried using a breezy disk, but as soon as it detects the hardware the CDROM stops working... Already switched that...
[07:35] <hjack> okay
[07:35] <hjack> Thank you
[07:35] <Tiggs> root accoutn is disabled by default
[07:35] <hjack> You understand why I would be reluctant to broadcast that though?
[07:36] <Tiggs> you need to sudo passwd root *supersecretpassword* to enable it
[07:36] <helpme> hey anyone knows about freerock gnome? is it a gnome theme? or a diff gnome?
[07:36] <P229> hjack: no
[07:36] <geneo93> duh
[07:36] <FlyingSquirrel32> When I try with the Hoary disk, it progresses, but the partioning is SUPER slow 1% an hour for a 120GB disk.
[07:36] <MadpilotPPC> hjack, it's one of the more common questions here, actually...
[07:36] <ugo> does anyone know the package names of the system manpages?
[07:36] <ugo> i cannot seem to do a man pthreads
[07:36] <helpme> hey anyone knows about freerock gnome? is it a gnome theme? or a diff gnome?
[07:36] <thoreauputic> hjack: really it means you didn't read the install dialogues carefully
[07:36] <hjack> If there was a defualt password someone could have easily connected and had access to this box and changed it or whatever....................disabled by default huh?
[07:37] <hjack> Of course not
[07:37] <FlyingSquirrel32> I tried setting the BIOS to treat the SATA drive as RAID, but that doesn't seem to have helped either
[07:37] <geneo93> hjack:  if you want a root passwd just do sudo passwd root
[07:37] <P229> hjack: well, iirc, ubuntu does not have sshd enabled by default, so no, they couldn't
[07:38] <_pir> any one knows how should I use the auto-apt? to ./configure?
[07:38] <ugo> help help help!!!!!!!!
[07:38] <ugo> when i do man ptheads i get nothing
[07:38] <ugo> !!!!!!! help help help pleh pleh pleh !!!!!!!
[07:38] <ubotu> ugo: I don't know, could you explain it?
[07:38] <MadpilotPPC> FlyingSquirrel32, I think I've got my home box BIOS set to boot from SCSI or something odd..
[07:39] <_pir> any one knows how should I use the auto-apt? to ./configure?
[07:39] <MadpilotPPC> FlyingSquirrel32, that's with the SATA drive as the only HDD in the system
[07:39] <thoreauputic> ugo: if you want to ask a quaetion don't spam the channel please
[07:39] <hjack> Thank you for your help
[07:39] <froilan> hello room
[07:40] <FlyingSquirrel32> MadpilotPPC: Yeah, when the Hoary disk was partioning it called it a SCSI disk. and I also have a single drive.
[07:40] <P229> what a night in here
[07:40] <_pir> any one knows how should I use the auto-apt? to ./configure?
[07:40] <MadpilotPPC> FlyingSquirrel32, that's some oddball legacy thing, but it does seem to work w/ SATA drives
[07:41] <geneo93> man apt
[07:41] <F-GT> grub is bs .. formatting and starting again
[07:41] <grigora> does anyone know how to look up what version of a specific software is supported by Ubuntu? thanks
[07:42] <tritium> grigora, apt-cache policy <packagename> is one way
[07:42] <tritium> There are others
[07:42] <FlyingSquirrel32> MadpilotPPC: That's not too helpful :/
[07:42] <FlyingSquirrel32> MadpilotPPC: not that it's your fault of course
[07:42] <thoreauputic> grigora: apt-cache search <program> ; apt-cache policy <programname>
[07:43] <grigora> tritium: thoreauputic: thanks
[07:43] <alexandros> can someone help me, I just install xawtv on unbuntu and I am getting the following error. Warning: Cannot convert string "-*-ledfixed-medium-r-*--39-*-*-*-c-*-*-*" to type FontStruct
[07:43] <alexandros> [sis_alloc.c:210] : Failure to allocate back buffer. Is there a way to work around this?
[07:43] <loku> hello... what is the terminal server spec with 5 client?
[07:43] <MadpilotPPC> FlyingSquirrel32, if I were home I could reboot that machine and check my BIOS settings, but I'm not, so... but SCSI worked for me
[07:43] <MadpilotPPC> grigora, you can also check packages.ubuntu.com
[07:44] <_pir> I used  auto-apt (auto-apt run ./configure) while compiling, it ask me if I want to d/l "libgtk-perl" I press Y, and libgtk-perl is downloaded, but then I get the same question, over and over...Y?
[07:45] <crimsun> ugo, sudo aptitude install glibc-doc && man pthread_create
[07:45] <grigora> thoreauputic: not to start a flame war, but I am trying to decide whether to install Debian or Ubuntu on a server machine, I have heard that Ubuntu is more up-to-date then Debian, but it looks like that's true only for Desktop apps, but not something like Postgres. Am I correct? Or am I missing something? thanks
[07:46] <grigora> then -> than
[07:46] <jayren> can anyone help me with wine
[07:46] <ugo> thanks crismun
[07:46] <ugo> perhaps i can suggest those packages get installe by default....
[07:47] <thoreauputic> grigora: no flame war - we are pro-Debian here anyway pretty much
[07:47] <ugo> its the case on most lin*xes
[07:47] <thoreauputic> grigora: I don't personally have an answer though
[07:47] <helpme> can i add whatever repos i want and install some standard debs from them?
[07:47] <tga> hmm suddenly gthumb doesn't display.. well.. thumbnails anymore
[07:47] <helpme> standard & popular apps i mean..like opera etc.
[07:47] <thoreauputic> ugo: sorry about the +q but you looked like you were about to go postal :)
[07:48] <tga> opera is standard?
[07:48] <crimsun> ugo, a desktop distro doesn't need development libs and documentation installed by default.
[07:48] <helpme> what packages will i need to install to easily compile kde apps?
[07:48] <grigora> thoreauputic: I see
[07:48] <crimsun> ugo, however, feel free to raise the issue on -user
[07:48] <graig> hello.
[07:49] <SuperLag> Any PPC users around?
[07:49] <helpme> what is PPC? mac?
[07:49] <graig> ppc is bascially the mac cpu.
[07:49] <SuperLag> yep
[07:49] <graig> power pc.
[07:49] <SuperLag> or Genesi
[07:49] <graig> what channel am i in? omg.
[07:49] <SuperLag> but it's still a PowerPC CPU
[07:50] <crimsun> graig, there are people of all experience levels in this channel. Be respectful.
[07:50] <helpme> lol.....the remark was funny btw
[07:50] <MadpilotPPC> helpme, Opera is easy to install from opera.com/download - they've got a Ubuntu .deb file
[07:50] <graig> how do i figure out what channel i am in? it seriously has been a long time since i have used irc.
[07:51] <thoreauputic> graig: erm - your client should tell you
[07:51] <helpme> just curious....will the standard deb work? (not the ubuntu deb for opera)
[07:51] <MadpilotPPC> SuperLag, I'm using a G4 right now, but it's not my own machine, and I'm not really familiar with them - there are some serious PPC users around here, though
[07:51] <thoreauputic> graig: what client are you using?
[07:51] <graig> xchat.
[07:51] <helpme>  just curious....will the standard deb work? (not the ubuntu deb for opera)
[07:51] <tga> mm this wallpaper goes well with Human Brown: http://www.disconti.nu/peacock/public/local/backgrounds/BkgAugBagara.jpg
[07:52] <MadpilotPPC> helpme, why not choose Opera's Ubuntu deb?
[07:52] <thoreauputic> graig: then it says right there on the channel tab...
[07:52] <helpme> im just curious to know.....definietly will use ubuntu's deb
[07:52] <vbgunz> anyone know how to apply the seahorse nautilus extension? I believe this might be it "http://cvs.gnome.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/seahorse/plugins/nautilus-ext/seahorse-nautilus.c?rev=1.4" any help is greatly apprciated!
[07:52] <graig> i dont think i see a channel tab.
[07:53] <Tiggs> i followed the ubuntu readme and it says to add some backports and i copied them exactly and it gave me errors that those directories didnt exist
[07:53] <thoreauputic> graig: :| then type /topic
[07:53] <Tiggs> im trying to get the libdvdcss now
[07:53] <graig> ok. thanks.
[07:53] <helpme> Tiggs: i had the same prob
[07:53] <SuperLag> MadpilotPPC: I'm just wondering if anyone else has done what I'm considering trying.  I have OS X on an external Firewire drive and it has a free partition on it.  I can also connect a spare Firewire 30GB drive as a slave off the first one.
[07:53] <P229> graig: you're in #ubuntu
[07:53] <levander> Amaranth isn't in here with yall talking about libdvdcss is he?
[07:53] <god-zero> Anybody here code in python? (newb questions)
[07:53] <graig> ok.
[07:53] <thoreauputic> graig: or mouse over the topic in xchat
[07:53] <levander> god-zero: i do
[07:54] <graig> ok. thanks.
[07:54] <MadpilotPPC> helpme, the current version of Opera (8.5) is very slick, and has a lot of improvements over previous releases of 8.x for Ubuntu
[07:54] <SuperLag> MadpilotPPC: I'm wondering if I can install Yaboot on the install partition, and use OpenFirmware to boot it with...
[07:54] <holycow> heh
[07:54] <jayr3n> hello
[07:54] <holycow> leafpad makes a great replacement for gedit
[07:54] <helpme> i followed the ubuntu readme and it says to add some backports and i copied them exactly and it gave me errors that those directories didnt exist
[07:54] <holycow> very very quick startup
[07:54] <MadpilotPPC> SuperLag, no idea, but I do know that this G4 is a triple-boot - the owner of it has OS9, OSX and Ubuntu on it
[07:54] <levander> Anybody know if writing to dvd's is any better in Breezy?
[07:55] <god-zero> levander: I'm just now reading up on it.. it seems program objects can be modified (self modifing code).. does that meen it cannot be compiled into native binary?
[07:55] <levander> god-zero: know, it can be compiled into binary
[07:55] <god-zero> levander: I haven't had any probs writing to dvd-r, +r or +rw
[07:55] <levander> god-zero: but what you're reading about is a big deal, dynamic typing completely changes the way of thinking from more traditional statically typed languages
[07:56] <grigora> what emule client is available for Ubuntu. I just tried installing amule and xmule, but both borked saying they depend on glic6 which is called something else, etc, any ideas? thanks
[07:56] <levander> god-zero: did you have problems under hoary?
[07:56] <god-zero> didn't have a dvd drive then
[07:56] <god-zero> well r/rw antways
[07:56] <levander> god-zero: what type of dvd player?
[07:56] <god-zero> sony 800a
[07:56] <levander> god-zero: I've got a Pioneer DVR-109
[07:56] <earthen_> I just installed a new copy of ubuntu (hoary) and after doing a update my mouse willl not work at startup, i have to unplug and replug to get it to work?
[07:57] <levander> god-zero: at the risk of being sacrilege in a heavily python channel, i'd seriously look into learning ruby instead of python
[07:57] <levander> earthen_: does it work after you re-plug it in?
[07:57] <mwaba> Does anyone know when the final version of the the new ubuntu will come out?
[07:57] <graig> ahhhh i found all the channels :)
[07:57] <earthen_> levander: yes works fine after i replug it
[07:57] <holycow> god-zero, learn / check out both and pick the one that you like
[07:57] <holycow> :)
[07:58] <god-zero> ruby: I may look into it.. what are the bennies?
[07:58] <graig> wow this has just about everything ;)
[07:58] <levander> mwaba: you can probably find that easily in the wiki, but it's usually safe to install a new ubuntu release weeks before it's officially released (if you don't have any uber-sensitive data especially)
[07:58] <holycow> god-zero, none, juts anotehr object oriented scripting language.  perhaps you will like the syntax
[07:58] <earthen_> lev it seems to work during bootup, it lights up when the hotplug and started then dies just before the login screen
[07:58] <levander> god-zero: I basically just think python is starting to show it's age and some of the features are getting dust around the corners
[07:59] <glyn> Anyone know why I can't connect to Nicotine?
[07:59] <mwaba> I see.. so, i can go ahead and install it now?
[07:59] <levander> god-zero: but, really, the advantages aren't in the languages itself
[07:59] <mwaba> I won't have any major problems?
[07:59] <levander> god-zero: ruby is about to support good native multi-threading, and rails for web development.
[07:59] <levander> earthen_: is your mouse hooked up to your computer through any type of ps/2 to usb adapter?
[07:59] <god-zero> I heard of ruby on rails as java done right or some such. Never really knew how to discern because I don't program java either
[08:00] <mercurus> quick question: I want to find out what ACPI events I have on my desktop, without activating the associated actions ... what's the best way of doing this ?
[08:00] <graig> ubuntu breezy comes out the 15th i think
[08:00] <levander> mwaba: you need to ask people who have tried it, ubuntuforums.org would be a good place to look into it if there's no one here
[08:00] <mwaba> But i can install it now and i won't have any major problems?
[08:00] <mwaba> I see.
[08:00] <earthen_> levander: no it is pluged right in the back of the computer, it's USB
[08:00] <vbgunz> anyone know of a good file diff program for Ubuntu?
[08:00] <mwaba> Okie, I'll try that.
[08:00] <graig> mwaba, i had problems about a week ago when i tried to upgrade to breezy.
[08:01] <levander> god-zero: they prolly just call it java done right because java is used for server-side web development.  There's nothing java specific about rails.
[08:01] <graig> its still going to be unstable till the 15th, so you might have problems.
[08:01] <levander> earthen_: I'd try a different mouse then, the mouse isn't being initially correctly on boot
[08:01] <god-zero> is ruby a vm languge/
[08:01] <glyn> can someone help me get Nicotine to work pleas?
[08:01] <tga> god-zero, ruby is an interpreted language
[08:01] <mwaba> So, you can update from one version to another without having to install the whole system again?
[08:01] <earthen_> levander: it worked fine before the update
[08:01] <levander> vbgunz: there's diff on the command line
[08:02] <vbgunz> levander whats the command ?
[08:02] <graig> yes, but it updates everything you have installed.
[08:02] <god-zero> breezy changes by the hour
[08:02] <thoreauputic> vbgunz: what's wrong with "diff" ?
[08:02] <grigora> what's everyone using for an eMule client?
[08:02] <levander> earthen_: well, you can try to find out which kernel module handles the usb mouse and play with it if you want
[08:02] <levander> vbgunz: diff is the command line
[08:02] <vbgunz> I never tried looking for it thoreauputic... Thank you levander!
[08:02] <thoreauputic> vbgunz: man diff ;-)
[08:02] <vbgunz> thanks!
[08:02] <thoreauputic> :)
[08:02] <levander> vbgunz: there's a popular gui one for gnome called ediff or emerge or something like that
[08:02] <graig> there is a command you can run to upgrade, once you change the repository links in a file.
[08:02] <earthen_> levander: playing with the kernel is a little scary to me :)
[08:03] <glyn> is there a channel or a site I could get help with Nicotine or with installing a better p2p program for Ubuntu?
[08:03] <vbgunz> levander: yeah that would be cool too
[08:03] <vbgunz> I'll check it!
[08:03] <thoreauputic> vbgunz: there's also an xdiff program for xfce4 IIRC
[08:03] <mwaba> By the way, how do you update to the new Gnome version? i tried the normal way but it didn't work.
[08:03] <levander> vbgunz: it was on arstechnica for awhile back under there linux.ars article or something like that, that may help you find it
[08:03] <tga> mwaba, you can change your apt sources, update and dist-upgrade
[08:03] <vbgunz> thoreauputic: sorry :( not familiar with xfce4 IIRC...
[08:03] <tga> mwaba, to get from one version to the other
[08:04] <levander> earthen_: well, if you want to learn about it, i think that's where you start.  Otherwise, try a different mouse.
[08:04] <grigora> vbgunz: not sure what the conversation is about, but you can always do diffs in Emacs which allows you to merge to conflicting versions of a file through Emerge
[08:04] <vbgunz> checking synaptic for that ediff and other now
[08:04] <thoreauputic> vbgunz: apt-cache search xxdiff
[08:05] <vbgunz> grigora: thanks!
[08:05] <levander> thoreauputic: xxdiff is the name of that popular gui diff tool?  I just can't remember the name of it
[08:05] <earthen_> levander: really i wouldn't know where to start looking in the kernel, just find it strange that it would stop working like that
[08:05] <vbgunz> thoreauputic: what is the ccdiff?
[08:05] <vbgunz> xxdiff siorry
[08:05] <grigora> vbgunz: sure
[08:05] <thoreauputic> vbgunz: no idea
[08:05] <glyn> can someone help me get Nicotine working?  I've been asking in here for an hour and no one has helped me
[08:05] <thoreauputic> ah
[08:05] <vbgunz> thoreauputic: :P
[08:06] <levander> earthen_: you don't start looking inside the kernel, you start by googling, there's something called a kernel module that probably handles the mouse.  You find the name of that module, and you look for instructions on how to diagnose it, reconfigure it etc.
[08:06] <levander> glyn: sorry, I don't even know what Nicotine is, well other than the drug...
[08:06] <levander> glyn: you've searched ubuntuforums.org?
[08:07] <graig> ill try installing nicotine.
[08:07] <vbgunz> one second fellas, doing an update on the system!
[08:07] <glyn> I'll try that
[08:07] <earthen_> levander:  ok thanks I did some googling on it but i will look some more and see whhat else i can find out
[08:08] <GhostFreeman> Where do I go to get Xvid support
[08:08] <levander> earthen_: i'd give you more information if i had it
[08:08] <mwaba> So, hoe does one update to the newest version of Gnome?
[08:08] <Tiggs> yay i got it working
[08:08] <earthen_> levander: thanks
[08:08] <Tiggs> how else was having problems withj dvd?
[08:08] <Tiggs> who
[08:08] <MadpilotPPC> mwaba, the next release of Ubuntu - Breezy, due Oct 13th - will have the latest version of Gnome in it
[08:09] <vbgunz> anyone here use Seahorse?
[08:10] <vbgunz> thoreauputic: do you know how to apply this page? http://cvs.gnome.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/seahorse/plugins/nautilus-ext/seahorse-nautilus.c?rev=1.4
[08:10] <earthen_> levander: I see in the Xorg.conf file it says my mouse is ps/2 maybe that has something to do with it
[08:10] <levander> earthen_: yeah
[08:10] <levander> earthen_: lemme check mine
[08:10] <vbgunz> I am trying to get the Seahorse Nautilus extension... It's proving to be a bit more difficult than I'd like it to be...
[08:11] <thoreauputic> vbgunz: I've never used seahorse, sorry
[08:11] <earthen_> levander: what type of mouse you have
[08:11] <levander> earthen_: usb
[08:12] <earthen_> levander: mine USB Logitech Opt mouse
[08:12] <levander> earthen: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2686
[08:12] <vbgunz> thoreauputic: is there a general principal in applying a *.c file found on the Internet? Supposedly that link is to a Seahorse Nautilus extension written in I believe C. Anyhow when I click on the link to download all of the code actually appears in my browser as text. I assume, there might be a trick to applying that code. If so what are the general steps if you can share it with me?
[08:12] <levander> earthen_: yours is almost positively usb
[08:12] <ugo> ?
[08:13] <graig> a soulseek client.
[08:13] <levander> earthen_: you might try what's in mine, but make sure to do a backup of what's in yours now
[08:13] <earthen_> levander: your has the same thing that mine has
[08:13] <levander> graig: what's soulseek?
[08:13] <thoreauputic> vbgunz: if it's in C you would need to compile it I guess
[08:13] <graig> ugo, and i think soulseek is somekind of P2p network.
[08:13] <earthen_> levander: :(
[08:13] <vbgunz> yeah, I was afraid of that...
[08:14] <N-i-c-o-t-i-n-e> really
[08:14] <earthen_> levander: Back to google i guess
[08:14] <vbgunz> thoreauputic: thank you, thought I ask...
[08:14] <levander> earthen_: dunno, keep looking, still sounds to me like a kernel module problem if re-connecting the mouse makes it work
[08:14] <levander> earthen_: yep! good luck!
[08:14] <vbgunz> Seahorse-Nautilus Extension.c
[08:14] <N-i-c-o-t-i-n-e> i'm P2P network...i am GOD now!
[08:14] <N-i-c-o-t-i-n-e> bow to me vermin!
[08:14] <thoreauputic> vbgunz: are you sure it hasn't been packaged?
[08:14] <mwaba> One last question, i can install the latest version of ubnutu now and update to the new verison on the 13'th without having to remove the whole old system?
[08:14] <crispynix> N-i-c-o-t-i-n-e: go smoke yourself ;)
[08:15] <thoreauputic> mwaba: you can
[08:15] <N-i-c-o-t-i-n-e> say: crispynix....i like my fries crispy
[08:15] <vbgunz> thoreauputic: I am looking for it but thats all I found... The Seahorse Nautilus extension is not found in Synaptic or any other place... I am going nuts and only found that C file...
[08:15] <levander> is there a nicotine package in breezy?
[08:15] <levander> mwaba: yes
[08:15] <graig> theres, a nicotine package in hoary.
[08:15] <N-i-c-o-t-i-n-e> say: run along and get me some vermin
[08:16] <graig> i just downloaded it a few minutes ago.
[08:16] <mwaba> Okie! thanks for that
[08:16] <levander> graig: but it sounds like people are having problems with it, does it work okay?
[08:16] <thoreauputic> N-i-c-o-t-i-n-e: OK that's enough now
[08:16] <graig> i haven't got it to work, im trying to get it to work right now.
[08:17] <levander> graig: soulseek is better than the gnutella or kazaa networks?  the content is better and easier to find?
[08:17] <god-zero> N-i-c-o-t-i-n-e: I'm god
[08:17] <graig> no idea lavender
[08:17] <levander> graig: so why you installing it?
[08:17] <N-i-c-o-t-i-n-e> say: god-zero....right....
[08:17] <graig> curious :)  how do i send tells?
[08:18] <N-i-c-o-t-i-n-e> say: god-zero where are your godly powers vermin...
[08:18] <thoreauputic> N-i-c-o-t-i-n-e: god-zero  /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:19] <iiiears> Heya!  :)    "Newb takes a wild leap of faith into the linux pool and attempts installing Half-Life 2 / Cedega. - nearly drowns.   Film at Eleven....."       -  lol
[08:21] <ColonelKernel> HOORAY! theres a new kernel!!!
[08:22] <iiiears> "Salutes new kernel" - what vers #?
[08:22] <thoreauputic> tritium: no you were right - I had already +q ed him and then removed it before - he had it coming
[08:23] <graig> hmm, i cant get nicotine working on hoary.
[08:23] <graig> oh well.
[08:24] <god-zero> ColonelKernel: You meen 2.6.12-9? Were there troubles with -8?
[08:25] <ColonelKernel> naw im talkin vanilla
[08:25] <ColonelKernel> 2.6.14-rc3
[08:26] <pussfeller> those krazy kernel kats are at it again
[08:26] <god-zero> I'm just happy inotify is working
[08:27] <god-zero> Is there a reason they don't chase the kernel closer?
[08:28] <levander> graig: you tried nicotine yet?
[08:29] <crispynix> Bowel: I approve of your name.
[08:29] <Bowel> crispynix, Ok, thanks!
[08:31] <graig> levander, no i haven't got it working.
[08:31] <Bowel> When booting up 2.6.12-9-k7 I get "FATAL: Module jfs not found" and / doesn't get mounted. 2.6.10-5-k7 works like a charm. Any ideas?
[08:32] <none_-> Bowel, install the modules for that kernel
[08:32] <Bowel> none_-, I'm using ubuntu's pre-compiled kernels (they contain jfs).
[08:34] <none_-> if root is not mounted then the module doesn't exist
[08:34] <none_-> go back to using 2.6.10
[08:35] <Bowel> Hm, so what do you suggest that I should do? I can see that it exists in the filesystem at least (jfs.ko).
[08:35] <Bowel> Yea. Like that solves the problem. :P
[08:36] <n00b> hallo? anyone here?
[08:36] <none_-> that sounds like a bug
[08:37] <n00b> need help... trying to install
[08:37] <Zealot> anyone here?
[08:37] <n00b> I'm not here
[08:37] <Bowel> I'll report it then, been trying boot 2.6.12 for 5 versions now.
[08:37] <Zealot> can someone help me with rythmbox?
[08:37] <Zealot> it says it wont open any files because they are all audio streams
[08:37] <crispynix> Bowel: You could always compile a kernel yourself, deep within the bowels of your abode.
[08:38] <n00b> Trying to install from the CD for the first time, and I'm getting a "Kernel panic - not syncing : Fatal exception in interrupt"
[08:38] <crispynix> sorry, can't resist being punny
[08:38] <Bowel> crispynix, Heh. :)
[08:38] <Bowel> I've heard it before. ;)
[08:38] <ccooke> Woah! 123 packages to update in Breezy since I went to sleep
[08:38] <n00b> I dunno what to do
[08:39] <god-zero> n00b: bad burn. Try burning it again, possably at a slower speed
[08:39] <tritium> Bowel, it's an ubuntu kernel?  Does it have an initrd.img corresponding to that version?
[08:39] <Bowel> tritium, Sure it does. That's the odd thing.
[08:39] <n00b> god-zero: this is straight from the envelope
[08:39] <tritium> indeed
[08:39] <Bowel> tritium, I can't see any big changes comparing the configs between the kernels either. Both has jfs as module.
[08:40] <deFrysk> glyn, make sure u hav a download dir and stuff set up and a unique username/passwd
[08:40] <n00b> I just ordered the free distro and am trying to install it for the first time
[08:40] <Zealot> anyone know why rythmbox says all my mp3s are audio streams and cant be played?
[08:40] <aftertaf> kaffeine does that for me too...
[08:40] <thoreauputic> Zealot: do you have gstreamer0.8-mad installed?
[08:40] <tritium> Bowel, not sure what that's about
[08:40] <god-zero> n00b: A pressed disc? There should be a "make a boot floppy" option on the disc. Toss it in the drive and look for flppy instrutions
[08:40] <Bowel> ccc_, Isn't it wonderful to have something to waste the bandwith with. :P
[08:40] <aftertaf> yo thoreauputic :)
[08:41] <thoreauputic> hi aftertaf :)
[08:41] <god-zero> n00b: while in your current os
[08:41] <Zealot> thoreauputic, no where do i get that?!
[08:41] <n00b> god-zero: so, does that mean I should load from the live CD to create a boot disk?
[08:42] <Bowel> tritium, Nod. Been trying to ask that question here a few times now and noone else seems to have the same problem by searching the net. I'll try to report it. Thanks anyway!
[08:42] <crispynix> Zealot: apt-get install it
[08:42] <thoreauputic> Zealot: from synaptic - read the URL the bot is about to send you
[08:42] <n00b> my current OS (on this machine) is XP
[08:42] <tritium> Bowel, good luck, and sorry for your troubles
[08:42] <thoreauputic> !tell Zealot about restricted
[08:42] <Bowel> tritium, Heh. My bowel troubles? :)
[08:42] <jmg> whats the "right way" for me to submit a source diff to malone?
[08:42] <jmg> i have modified the source tree from apt-get source and my built package fixes the bug im filing, what next?
[08:42] <tritium> heh, those too, if you have them, but I meant the jfs ones ;)
[08:43] <thoreauputic> !tell Zealot about repos
[08:43] <god-zero> n00b: No... right now.. (don't reboot) insert the cd... browse the file structure for a .txt or htlm explaning how to make & use a boot floppy.
[08:43] <jmg> theres a way for dpkg or dpkg-source or something to make a diff automatically right?
[08:43] <Bowel> jmg, diff -Nru ?
[08:44] <MadpilotPPC> Is there a way to get FF to stop displaying that silly "Additional Plugins Are Required..." bar? I know there's no Flash on this system, FF can stop reminding me...
[08:44] <Bowel> MadpilotPPC, Isn't there a noflashgot plugin or something I believe.
[08:44] <Bowel> MadpilotPPC, Extension I meant, try looking at addons.mozilla.org.
[08:44] <n00b> god-zero: I'm looking it up on the Live CD right now. Thanks for the tip, I'll give it a try
[08:45] <Zealot> thoreauputic, thanks so much!
[08:45] <thoreauputic> Zealot: no worries :) enjoy1
[08:45] <MadpilotPPC> Bowel, you mean I've got to get another plugin just to stop FF from being irritating? Blah... off to check, though... thanks
[08:45] <cat> !doc
[08:45] <aftertaf> noflash :) might work....
[08:45] <ubotu> [doc]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation is a good doc to read
[08:45] <Bowel> MadpilotPPC, I have no idea. I just recall that I've seen it. ;)
[08:46] <thoreauputic> MadpilotPPC: there's a flashblock extension as well :)
[08:46] <ColonelKernel> I wanted to know if you can use the -j3 option with make-kpkg
[08:46] <crispynix> MadpilotPPC: firefox used to have a libnullplugin.so in the plugins folder that caused dialogs to pop up for missing plugins... I don't see it there with my inst though.
[08:46] <ColonelKernel> as in make -j3
[08:46] <thoreauputic> MadpilotPPC: heh - extensions to block plugins - it is kinda funny ;)
[08:46] <earthen_> levander: hey
[08:47] <MadpilotPPC> thoreauputic, it's damned annoying... I still can't figure out why FF impresses ppl so much... :(
[08:48] <andrew__> Hey
[08:48] <andrew__> Can anyone help me?
[08:48] <crimsun> no idea, what're your issues?
[08:48] <andrew__> Um, I'm just having some video troubles
[08:48] <cat> yeah ask away
[08:48] <cat> such as?
[08:48] <andrew__> Like, it seems like nothing is hardware accelerated
[08:48] <andrew__> Like that penguin racing game lags a lot
[08:49] <andrew__> and I know my video card should run it easily
[08:49] <MadpilotPPC> andrew__, do you have 3d drivers installed? (they aren't by default...)
[08:49] <andrew__> Haha, I'm going to guess no
[08:49] <thoreauputic> andrew__: it might help togive some details like what vid card you have
[08:49] <tritium> andrew__, which video chip?
[08:49] <cat> andrew__: yeah when i play that game it lags alot, also
[08:49] <robitaille> MadpilotPPC,  on the other side,  I fail to see why some people really love opera :)
[08:49] <andrew__> nvidia to go
[08:49] <thoreauputic> !nvidia
[08:49] <deFrysk> andrew__, good choice :)
[08:49] <andrew__> I don't know exactly the specs
[08:49] <ubotu> methinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[08:50] <thoreauputic> andrew__: read the bot's URL
[08:50] <thoreauputic> ^^^
[08:50] <andrew__> Okay
[08:50] <MadpilotPPC> blast - the FlashBlock plugin won't work on this G4 w/ this version of FF... blasted thing...
[08:50] <crispynix> MadpilotPPC: open up about:config and toggle 'plugin.default_plugin_disabled' to False.  That should eliminate the missing plugin notifications.
[08:50] <crispynix> er
[08:50] <crispynix> sorry, set it to True
[08:51] <cat> hey is there any pdf on ubuntu so i can read/
[08:51] <thoreauputic> hi ompaul_ :)
[08:51] <cat> everything on !doc
[08:51] <ompaul_> morning
[08:51] <thoreauputic> cat: sure - xpdf or evince on breezy
[08:51] <deFrysk> cat if you use breezy, get evince
[08:51] <earthen_> levander: you still here?
[08:51] <deFrysk> evince rules
[08:51] <cat> any docs, of ubuntu, on PDF
[08:51] <ompaul_> wtf wheres me nick
[08:52] <auk> evince _rules_
[08:52] <auk> firefox _rules_
[08:52] <auk> gnome _rules_
[08:52] <auk> sorry good people
[08:52] <MadpilotPPC> crispynix, that gets rid of the blank Flash-should-be-here boxes, but not the irritating yellow banner, it looks like...
[08:52] <ompaul> here is it
[08:52] <crispynix> MadpilotPPC: does /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libnullplugin.so exist?
[08:53] <andrew__> Thanks guys
[08:53] <cat> debian/doc has lots of pdf on there documentation
[08:53] <cat> does ubuntu two? or not
[08:53] <aftertaf> squid wont install, and i cant remove it either, it halts all apt-get processes. how can i really get rid of it?
[08:53] <ompaul> here it is even
[08:53] <andrew__> Umm, sound isn't coming through either
[08:53] <andrew__> lol
[08:53] <andrew__> I mean, I have a startup sound
[08:53] <andrew__> and sound events when I click on menus, etc..
[08:53] <andrew__> But in the games I've played, no sound for some reason
[08:54] <thoreauputic> cat: reading pdf isn't a problem - if you click a pdf it should open a viewer for you
[08:54] <MadpilotPPC> crispynix, I appear not to have a /usr/lib/firefox at all... huh?
[08:54] <none_-> mozilla-firefox
[08:54] <cat> thoreauputic: i know but i want docs on pdf, like debian docs does ubuntu has?
[08:55] <cat> or no?
[08:55] <aftertaf> anyone help with a dpkg problem?
[08:55] <crispynix> none_-: ubuntu's package is called firefox now (well, in breezy); debian's is mozilla-firefox
[08:55] <MadpilotPPC> cat, not really. wiki.ubuntu.com/ instead
[08:55] <thoreauputic> cat: I don't understand, sorry
[08:55] <crispynix> none_-: same path though?
[08:55] <none_-> for me it is
[08:55] <cat> oh ok
[08:55] <crispynix> MadpilotPPC: ok, check for /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libnullplugin.so
[08:56] <aftertaf> dkpg halting on a post installation script error. now i cant remove or finish the install :/
[08:56] <none_-> try apt-get -f install
[08:56] <aftertaf> none_-: i did. same pb ....
[08:56] <none_-> i'm surprised they work
[08:56] <ColonelKernel> is there any way to put make options into make-kpkg?
[08:57] <MadpilotPPC> crispynix, OK, found the /mozilla-firefox/plugins directory - and there's nothing there at all
[08:57] <Whistler> hello
[08:57] <crispynix> yep, and better than the ubuntu ones IME (font weirdness with ubuntu's)
[08:57] <Whistler> how do i set my screen to 24bit?
[08:57] <crispynix> MadpilotPPC: feh, ok. nevermind.
[08:57] <Whistler> cause i played game using cedega and now the screen colors ar blank
[08:57] <MadpilotPPC> crispynix, thanks, though... /me continues to be unimpressed with the flippin' Fox...
[08:57] <none_-> try opera
[08:58] <aftertaf>  sudo dpkg --force-remove squid    is invalid :/
[08:58] <Whistler> ?
[08:58] <MadpilotPPC> Does anyone know which Opera package I'd use on a PPC-Linux Hoary install?
[08:58] <none_-> opera has ubuntu packages on their site
[08:58] <tritium> they're just links to debian packages
[08:59] <MadpilotPPC> none_-, not for PPC-Linux, they don't... I'm guessing the static deb will work - will any of the Debian ones?
[08:59] <none_-> i don't think PPC is supportd by opera
[08:59] <crispynix> MadpilotPPC: you could try Konqueror ;)
[08:59] <MadpilotPPC> none_-, It is, but Ubuntu-PPC isn't, specifically.
[09:00] <none_-> oh..
[09:00] <none_-> konqueror is pretty good
[09:00] <liable> meh, i seem to have fucked my usb key with cfdisk, cant mount the damn thing now..
[09:00] <crispynix> newer versions, anyways. the konq with 3.3.x and below kinda sucked.
[09:00] <ColonelKernel> anyone? is there any way to put make options into make-kpkg?
[09:00] <cat> ColonelKernel: u can with #
[09:01] <ColonelKernel> cat - what is #
[09:01] <cat> # is a comment
[09:01] <arwate> where do I report problems with my breezy installation?
[09:02] <ompaul> !tell liable about conduct
[09:02] <aftertaf> i really need to get rid of squid..... i cant do anything else with apt till it goes..... anyone?
[09:03] <ColonelKernel> cat, im unsure what you mean - I usually do make -j3
[09:03] <earthen_> how do i edit my grub startup list?
[09:04] <joachim_> I don't think  my .bash_profile is being read -- is it not read by default?
[09:04] <aftertaf> pff got it.
[09:04] <liable> ompaul: my apoligies, wrong window.. :)
[09:04] <aftertaf> i needed to hack the prerm script to # the initd stop line
[09:06] <aftertaf> arwate: for breezy... here. and if not sorted you can file a bug on ubuntu bugzilla
[09:10] <StarKruzr> so guys
[09:10] <StarKruzr> I'm buying a tablet
[09:10] <Zealot> what is gedit?
[09:10] <StarKruzr> should I get an HP-Compaq tc4200 or a Fujitsu P1510D?
[09:10] <ColonelKernel> StarKruzr, percocet
[09:10] <ColonelKernel> if youre gonna buy tablets get something with an enjoyable buzz
[09:10] <StarKruzr> *ba-dum-CHSSH*
[09:10] <StarKruzr> thank you ladies and gentlemen, he'll be here all week
[09:10] <StarKruzr> try the duck l'orange, it's delicious
[09:11] <Zealot> it says i have to enter code in, but where do i enter the code into?
[09:11] <sandis> Hi! Does anybody know how to disable pauses between songs in rhythmbox?
[09:11] <ColonelKernel> at night - Ive been advised not to give uyp my day job
[09:11] <Zealot> sandis, how did you get songs to work on rythmbox?!?!
[09:11] <StarKruzr> Zealot: it's a simple text editor
[09:11] <StarKruzr> and what are you trying to do?
[09:11] <sandis> Zealot www.ubuntuguide.org -> multimedia codecs
[09:13] <ColonelKernel> cat, how/where do I put the comment to use -j3 as a make option in make-kpkg?
[09:14] <Zealot> i dont understand this users guide at all
[09:14] <MadpilotPPC> !ubuntuguide
[09:14] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is, like, totally, out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[09:15] <irvin> !faq
[09:15] <ubotu> faq is, like, totally, The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/
[09:15] <vbgunz> hey is there a way to download the entire ubuntu.wiki?
[09:16] <crispynix> vbgunz: wget/curl/pick your poison
[09:16] <Zealot> could you guys just walk through how to get mp3s to work in rythmbox, i think i would learn a lot faster this way
[09:16] <vbgunz> crispynix: whats that?
[09:16] <crispynix> Zealot: apt-get remove rhythmbox && apt-get install amarok
[09:16] <Zealot> how do i do that?
[09:16] <theLIGHT> hello there. i got this error Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security/m ain Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary-security _main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[09:17] <crispynix> vbgunz: wget or curl in recursive mode; command-line leech apps
[09:17] <thoreauputic> Zealot: install gstreamer0.8-mad
[09:17] <Zealot> how?
[09:17] <Zealot> i have no clue what im doing hah, i dont know how to install hah
[09:17] <aftertaf> Zealot: sudo apt-get gstreamer0.8-mad
[09:17] <thoreauputic> Zealot: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[09:17] <aftertaf> erf
[09:17] <vbgunz> crispynix: hold up, I need to break that down...
[09:17] <thoreauputic> aftertaf: left out install
[09:17] <aftertaf> forgot the install keyword
[09:17] <nalioth_zZz> vbgunz: use wget. it has several options to keep your downloaded webite up to date
[09:18] <thoreauputic> Zealot: have you enabled repos
[09:18] <Zealot> i think i have
[09:18] <Zealot> haha
[09:18] <Zealot> actually
[09:18] <ompaul> !tell Zealot repos
[09:18] <thoreauputic> !repos
[09:18] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[09:18] <aftertaf> theLIGHT: paste your sources.list to pastebin...
[09:18] <Zealot> in terminal i just entered the code for the mp3 decoding and its installing now
[09:18] <vbgunz> nalioth_zZz: thanks!
[09:19] <Zealot> what is k3b?
[09:19] <theLIGHT> aftertaf ok will do
[09:19] <sandis> cd burning app
[09:19] <vbgunz> crispynix: so I use wget and point it to the site, and it will download it... that is nice to know, thank you!
[09:19] <thoreauputic> Zealot: one thinga at a time mate :)
[09:19] <ompaul> Zealot, one thing at a time
[09:19] <aftertaf> hehe
[09:19] <theLIGHT> aftertaf:  pastebin as in past.ubuntulinux.nl/969 correct?
[09:19] <MadpilotPPC> Zealot, K3B burns CDs/DVDs
[09:19] <crispynix> vbgunz: it's not that simple -- wget has a lot of options, including recursion
[09:20] <aftertaf> without the 969 yeah!
[09:20] <aftertaf> youll add your own
[09:20] <Zealot> ok so what am i do
[09:20] <crispynix> vbgunz: rtfm ;)
[09:20] <Zealot> doing*
[09:20] <vbgunz> crispynix: exacto! I am just grateful for you pointing it out to me... wget sounds interesting!
[09:20] <sandis> hey, i have this beautiful "dark side of the moon" album (mp3) and i want it to play in Rhythmbox WITHOUT pauses between songs. Is there a way?
[09:21] <crispynix> vbgunz: np :)
[09:21] <Zealot> OK i enabled universe and multiverse repositories thingy
[09:21] <crimsun> sandis, you'd want ogg vorbis or flac for true gapless
[09:21] <crimsun> sandis, gstreamer tends to do interesting things with buffering.
[09:21] <vbgunz> crispynix: do you use pgp?
[09:21] <crimsun> try the totem-xine backend
[09:22] <vbgunz> crispynix: or gpg?
[09:22] <aftertaf> theLIGHT: or compare to the 969 page...
[09:22] <crispynix> vbgunz: yeah, but not often
[09:22] <Zealot> now what do i do?!
[09:22] <vbgunz> what is your favorite GUI if you have one?
[09:22] <aftertaf> Zealot: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[09:22] <aftertaf> :)
[09:22] <arwate> so.. I upgraded my kubuntu installation to breezy yesterday. now, whenever I try to start konqueror, it chrashs instantly with a SIGSEV.
[09:22] <crispynix> vbgunz: it's integrated into my mail client (KMail)
[09:23] <crispynix> vbgunz: there also is/was an extension for Thunderbird, Enigmail
[09:23] <sandis> crimsun: it seems that there are this default pause time between songs. in beep i can change it. can i in rhytmbox?
[09:23] <aftertaf> arwate: try reupdating and doing a dist-upgrade
[09:23] <crimsun> sandis, not that I know of
[09:23] <ompaul> aftertaf, how    you
[09:23] <thoreauputic> aftertaf:   are     today?
[09:23] <crimsun> sandis, I rarely use Rhythmbox, though.
[09:23] <Zealot> aftertaf
[09:23] <Zealot> its done
[09:23] <aftertaf> lol......
[09:23] <Zealot> now what?
[09:23] <vbgunz> ahh, you only use it to sign mail? that's cool, I use Thunderbird *but* was looking for a way to sign documents through Nautilus, thought maybe you had an idea
[09:23] <sandis> crimsun: what do you use then?
[09:23] <aftertaf> Zealot: play your mp3 dude ;)
[09:23] <Zealot> hehe
[09:23] <Zealot> yay!
[09:24] <vbgunz> crispynix: it's cool, seahorse needs work :P
[09:24] <kataklysm-> is there an mp3 plugin for support of mp3 in serpentine?
[09:24] <aftertaf> lol ompaul & thoreauputic  :)   i'm fine...  bit under the table with a cold, but ok :)
[09:24] <crispynix> vbgunz: heh.  As for nautilus, you can probably do it, but I'm not sure whether or not any has written the service menu script for it.
[09:24] <Whistler> !w32codecs
[09:24] <ubotu> w32codecs is probably a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy). 64-bit? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[09:24] <thoreauputic> aftertaf: how was that for super cow powers ?
[09:24] <crispynix> *whether or not anyone
[09:25] <aftertaf> fantastic mate :)
[09:25] <aftertaf> thoreauputic: ^^^^
[09:25] <Zealot> aftertaf, thanks so much man! is there, perchance m4a decoding in ubuntu?
[09:25] <thoreauputic> aftertaf: telepathy in action ;-)
[09:25] <nalioth> Zealot: yes there is
[09:25] <vbgunz> crispynix: I've been searching a little less than two days... i am beat and raise the white flag... Ubuntu beats me again... It's ok, I'll keep looking!
[09:25] <Zealot> whats the line to get it?
[09:25] <nalioth> Zealot: install gstreamer0.8-faac and -faad
[09:26] <crispynix> vbgunz: you might want to post on ubuntuforums :)  I seem to remember seeing such a script somewhere, but maybe it was for something else.
[09:26] <crispynix> vbgunz: konqueror (as of KDE 3.5beta1) does come with encrypt menu actions, btw.
[09:26] <vbgunz> I'd be happy if it were in the tray with an option to sign, etc clipboard or current window *or* if it existed as a context menu... I'll settle for anything :P
[09:27] <vbgunz> crispynix: you know I never really gave a decent shot at KDE
[09:27] <nalioth> crispynix: if you enable it via kgpg, earlier versions have it, too
[09:27] <crimsun> Zealot, or if you use libxine1-based apps, it's available in that lib, too.
[09:27] <vbgunz> crispynix: how different compared to gnome would you say it is?
[09:27] <nalioth> vbgunz: enable it using kgpg
[09:27] <carl> hi guys, anyone know how to get ubuntu to automatically use adhoc instead of managed on startup/device pluged in. have "wireless-mode adhoc" in /etc/network/interfaces
[09:27] <Zealot> crimsun, how do i do that?
[09:28] <aftertaf> noone seeding for w32 .torrent?
[09:28] <kataklysm-> how come Serpentine Audio CD Creator says my mp3s arent supported format??  the serpentine website says that it supports mp3 files... is there a patch for this?
[09:28] <crispynix> vbgunz: quite different -- it's definitely far more customizable, but some people don't like all of the options
[09:28] <vbgunz> nalioth, If I install kgpg, it will show up in context menus or the system tray?
[09:28] <Zealot> is there a better mp3 player than Rythmbox?
[09:28] <carl> using wireless pcmcia card btw
[09:28] <crimsun> Zealot, install a libxine1-based app
[09:28] <crispynix> vbgunz: check out KDE, you might like it :)  if you do though, I recommend upgrading to breezy first, since the version in hoary is somewhat buggy.
[09:28] <ompaul> !tell kataklysm- about restricted
[09:29] <Zealot> is there a good libxinel based mp3 player?
[09:29] <MadpilotPPC> Zealot, lots of them. I like Muine
[09:29] <Zealot> is that good and where do i get it?
[09:29] <vbgunz> crispynix: sort of why I liked Ubuntu so much... being new to Linux I need a simple interface without an overwhelming amount of eyecandy options... I needed to see how to work before needing to know how to tweak!
[09:29] <MadpilotPPC> Zealot, Muine is in the Universe repository
[09:29] <kataklysm-> ompaul: i know that the mp3 stuff isnt supported by default, but i have all my other players, plus k3b supports it..  serpentine is capable of mp3, is there not a non-free plugin to get to get mp3 to work?
[09:29] <crispynix> vbgunz: heh.  KDE's defaults aren't too bad with newer versions, but 3.3 still came with the Keramik style enabled by default (it's ugly)
[09:29] <vbgunz> crispynix: I can dualboot Ubuntu and Kubuntu or would that be dumb you think? I am already on Breezy :)
[09:30] <crispynix> vbgunz: just install kubuntu-desktop and you can run both GNOME and KDE with the same installation
[09:30] <crimsun> vbgunz, KDE and GNOME coexist happily on the same K/Ubuntu install.
[09:30] <n00b> fooey
[09:30] <Seveas> vbgunz, that would be dumb
[09:30] <vbgunz> Seveas: thanks!
[09:30] <Seveas> just install buth packages on the same install
[09:31] <Seveas> and you can choose when you login
[09:31] <n00b> any advice on how to properly create a boot disk using windows? I've use NTRawrite and bootset, but neither is producing a working product
[09:31] <vbgunz> so I can have KDE & GNOME on the same desktop? How would you switch between the two?
[09:31] <Zealot> Ok so this is bad, i cant here anything out of my speakers
[09:31] <Seveas> vbgunz, logout, select the other, login
[09:31] <Zealot> do i have to add drivers for theM? how do i do this?
[09:31] <crispynix> vbgunz: your desktop manager should present options for the different sessions (GNOME, KDE, etc.)
[09:31] <crimsun> Zealot, lspci -v|grep -i audio
[09:32] <carl> anyone setup adhoc wireless network b4?
[09:32] <ompaul> kataklysm-, steam will do that by as far as I know
[09:32] <n00b> fooey, I say!
[09:32] <vbgunz> So if I download KDE right now... install it, on next reboot, my login screen will present a choice of desktop?
[09:32] <Seveas> yes
[09:32] <Zealot> crimsun, i just enter that into terminal?!
[09:32] <crispynix> vbgunz: if everything installs correctly, yes
[09:32] <Seveas> just apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:32] <lightsource> how do I get a higher resolution available for my system???
[09:32] <nalioth> vbgunz: under "sessions"
[09:32] <vbgunz> if so I really want to try KDE... probably always running KDE of the live CD made me like it less... but I am on the hard drive now
[09:32] <crimsun> Zealot, for troubleshooting.
[09:32] <n00b> I wonder if the AMD version would work on my Intel box
[09:32] <Seveas> !tell lightsource about resolution
[09:32] <crispynix> vbgunz: and not on next reboot, you can end your current session and it should present you with the choices
[09:32] <vbgunz> man I am going to try it out right now!
[09:33] <aftertaf> theLIGHT: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2688
[09:33] <vbgunz> ok I'll be back... I want to see KDE!
[09:33] <vbgunz> brb
[09:33] <aftertaf> change your sources.list to resemble that theLIGHT  :)
[09:33] <Zealot> 0000:00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  Sound Controller (rev a0)
[09:33] <Zealot> 0000:00:0d.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 03)
[09:33] <n00b> cripes! I can't get this thing to load
[09:33] <kataklysm-> ompaul,  is steam a cd-burner app? or is it a plugin ?
[09:34] <Zealot> but what does that tell me, why doesnt it play music?
[09:34] <vbgunz> wow, it aint that big so I have time to chat... have ya heard of Klik? if so what do ya think about it?
[09:34] <crimsun> Zealot, that information was for me.
[09:34] <crispynix> vbgunz: I've read about it but haven't tried it yet :)
[09:34] <crimsun> Zealot, do you want your sblive to be the primary one?
[09:35] <ompaul> kataklysm-, no it has the libs attached to it - gimp is the ripper
[09:35] <crimsun> Zealot, i.e., which sound card are your speakers connected to?
[09:35] <Zealot> audigy
[09:35] <Zealot> one sec
[09:35] <crimsun> Zealot, cat /proc/asound/modules
[09:35] <vbgunz> crispynix: was reading about it just a little while... only read a little... it sounds really interesting... one click install packages you can download and just execute... I hope it blows up... nothing wrong with removing a few extra steps...
[09:35] <Zealot> i fixed the problem in the sound preferences
[09:35] <Zealot> music plays!
[09:35] <Zealot> w00t!
[09:35] <Zealot> thanks guys!
[09:35] <crimsun> heh.
[09:35] <kataklysm-> ompaul,   so there is no way to get serpentine to be compatable with burning mp3s, unless i install it from source?
[09:35] <ompaul> kataklysm-, sorry lost the plot - back in a mo
[09:36] <nalioth> ColonelKernel: hows your right click functionality?
[09:36] <Zealot> ahh i  was getting edgy not hearing music for so long
[09:36] <crispynix> vbgunz: I agree -- although it might annoy Apple and Linspire, both of whom implemented such a feature first ;)
[09:36] <vbgunz> Nalioth, sorry buddy, I took a look into my console window and I believe I am downloading Amarok... is this true?
[09:36] <nalioth> vbgunz: it is part and parcel of 'kubuntu-desktop'
[09:37] <vbgunz> crispynix: hell wit'em... we can make them player hater awards ;)
[09:37] <Zealot> ok well im off of IRC, i dont have any problems anymore i hope hah,
[09:37] <Zealot> otherwise see ya later
[09:37] <Zealot> thanks again for the help
[09:37] <arwate> aftertaf: update and dist-upgrade done. konqueror still crashes with SIGSEV
[09:37] <arwate> I did a reboot, too
[09:37] <vbgunz> naliothI rememeber seeing amarok once and liking the interface... no joke but I saw some really pretty KDE apps
[09:37] <theLIGHT> aftertaf: umm i'm a bit dull today. i gather that i should copy/past this http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2688 into my sources.list, correct?
[09:38] <n00b> I really don't get this...
[09:38] <bina> hi, how do you reconfigure ur mouse / keyboard.  Is there a way to do it using dpkg?
[09:38] <vbgunz> crispynix: dude its a pleasure, I need to do some things really quick, should be back in less than 10
[09:38] <lightsource> when it says "Run the following command." where exactly do I put that command?
[09:38] <n00b> I know I'm being annoying here, but I don't know where else to go for answers
[09:38] <arwate> aftertaf: ignore me for now. i will install kubuntu-desktop and tehn come back
[09:38] <vladuz976> did Breezy get rid of the nice boot splash?
[09:39] <crispynix> vbgunz: have fun =)
[09:39] <thoreauputic> !tell n00b about docs
[09:39] <aftertaf> theLIGHT: yep, or make yours resemble it....
[09:39] <nalioth> vbgunz: there are 'pretty' apps everywhere you look
[09:39] <aftertaf> arwate: erf.... yeah, worth a try, but wierd... try #kubuntu
[09:40] <lightsource> when it says "Run the following command." where exactly do I put that command?
[09:40] <n00b> docs say nothing
[09:40] <n00b> about kernel panic
[09:40] <kataklysm-> does anyone here have luck with serpentine burning mp3s???   the apt info says it supports mp3, i have done pointed to the mp3 crap about ubuntu, but there has to be a way to get it ot work.. what did someone in here do ?
[09:40] <ccooke> lightsource: Do you know how to get up a Terminal?
[09:40] <theLIGHT> aftertaf: ah that makes me feel confident. i hope this works. :-)
[09:40] <nalioth> n00b: /msg ubotu repeat  should give you a clue about the current situation
[09:40] <lightsource> yea
[09:40] <ompaul> kataklysm-, add multiverse to the repos its for restricted formats and install lame that should sort out your problems
[09:40] <nalioth> kataklysm-: let breezy finalize
[09:40] <moo_> Hello! Since the latest XServer security upgrade for Hoary, some of the applets in the Gnome-Bars sometimes crash when logging in. Reloading them works fine, until they crash again - about every tenth login. Any ideas on what's wrong and how to fix it?
[09:40] <ccooke> lightsource: that's where :-)
[09:40] <lightsource> ccooke: im in it right now
[09:40] <lightsource> ok
[09:40] <lightsource> thnaks
[09:41] <ccooke> lightsource: noproblem
[09:42] <esac> anybody know anything i can install so that nautilus/eog can display .ico files ?
[09:42] <kataklysm-> ompaul,  i have the multiverse already installed
[09:42] <ompaul> kataklysm-, so install lame
[09:43] <cat> !info lame
[09:43] <ubotu> lame: (LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder), section multiverse/sound, is optional. Version: 3.96.1-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 222 kB, Installed size: 620 kB
[09:43] <bina> how do i reconfigure Xorg?  Ive got so far as sudo dpkg-reconfigure but xorg, X, X11 dont seem to work
[09:44] <cat> bina: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:44] <bina> cat: woo.  thanks.  i wasnt too far away then :)
[09:44] <cat> yeah np
[09:45] <rico_eberle> good morning :)
[09:45] <ompaul> kataklysm-, in a terminal type >> apt-cache show mp3 | more << 'sudo apt-get install SOME_word_here' will install something you want
[09:45] <ompaul> rico_eberle, it is
[09:46] <rico_eberle> it is : 09:46 am in switzerland... exactly :)
[09:47] <vbgunz> crispynix and nalioth: I noticed that I am getting plently of apps for KDE... will these apps double my menus *or* will they only be seen in the KDE environment?
[09:48] <MadpilotPPC> vbgunz, you can use kde apps in in gnome, and vice versa
[09:48] <nalioth> vbgunz: some will show up
[09:48] <vbgunz> ahh man, should have given that clear thought... :P
[09:48] <crispynix> vbgunz: they'll probably be seen in GNOME as well -- that's an issue that some people want fixed, others want left alone (I count myself among the latter, since I use GTK/GNOME apps in KDE and imagine GNOME users might want to use KDE apps)
[09:49] <vbgunz> I like Gnome simplicity... I don't need two of the same apps :P
[09:49] <crispynix> heh
[09:49] <vbgunz> crispynix, I agree, I just thought the KDE desktop was going to be just the desktop... now it looks like I'll have more email clients and browsers :P
[09:50] <nalioth> vbgunz: yes, it will allow you to use the best tool for the job
[09:50] <vbgunz> will see how it turns out
[09:50] <grexk> wow ltsp in Ubuntu is fantastic
[09:51] <vbgunz> nalioth: ever use the bat email client? thunderbird can never approach it's complexity... does such an email client even exist for Linux at all?
[09:51] <crispynix> vbgunz: it doesn't bother me too much; at least the apps are categorized.  I can see where some people might be overwhelmed tho -- I even have trouble locating specific apps sometimes.
[09:51] <esac> grexk: ltsp ?
[09:51] <grexk> yup
[09:51] <kataklysm-> apt-cash show mp3   mp3 isnt a valid apt-cash show comman
[09:51] <esac> !info ltsp
[09:52] <grexk> Right now I'm installing it.....
[09:52] <esac> ok i dont know wtf ltsp is
[09:52] <vbgunz> crispynix: when I tried some live Linux evals the one thing that turned me off about KDE was the menus were explosive... I mean I had no clue where to start because forget about it... It was just nuts... i think I just did that too :|
[09:52] <grexk> Linux terminal server Project...
[09:52] <esac> is it a terminal server client, or terminal server server ?
[09:53] <vbgunz> I have a meg left... Will check it out...
[09:53] <crispynix> vbgunz: Ouch :/  Well, you might try to participate in the Appeal project; the KDE developers are looking for input from artists, usability people, etc. for KDE 4.
[09:53] <grexk> terminal server and a client....
[09:53] <nalioth> vbgunz: am not familiar with the bat. linux has dozens of email clients to choose from
[09:55] <vbgunz> crispynix: being new, I figured it would just be nice to completely seperate the desktop environments *but* not completely seperate the applications... I mean if I choose to install KDE it would be nice if all the apps came along with it but let me see *just* the KDE as intended... this doesn't restrict the idea of crossing gnome apps over into KDE and vice versa... i thought right now, I was just going to see KDE as KDE and not mixed int
[09:55] <vbgunz> we'll see, I am going through a setup routine for KDE now
[09:56] <crispynix> vbgunz: someone might implement such a feature eventually -- it's come up a few times on the ubuntuforums.  It'd better be optional though, or people like me who use both KDE and GTK2/GNOME apps will be somewhat annoyed and more than a little inconvenienced.
[09:57] <vbgunz> crispynix: I completely understand... nothing wrong with more options... more options only satisfy more people...
[09:57] <crispynix> vbgunz: yeah, but the GNOME developers are trying to reduce options to reduce complexity and confusion.  It's a bit difficult to determine which options are necessary and which aren't, though.
[09:58] <kataklysm-> what are some good non-free repositories that have more stuff than the ones included with ubuntu? can someone give me some custom URLs to add to my list?
[09:58] <vbgunz> crispynix: just personally, I was just getting comfortable with Gnome... I only installed KDE because I guess you can say I was a bit overzealous with my new found knowledge and the fact that since i am new I am still opened to trying new things... I just wanted to keep them seperated on first install...
[09:58] <MadpilotPPC> kataklysm-, that's a good way to break your Ubuntu...
[09:58] <esac> anybody know anything i can install so that nautilus/eog can display .ico files ?
[09:58] <arwate> aftertaf: for you interest, problem (crashing konqueror) is solved after installing kubuntu-desktop
[09:59] <vbgunz> crispynix: that is one thing I believe is driving me away from Gnome... I do want the options and feel a little better Ubuntu... who knows, I might see KDE as the missing thing... I'll be right back... It's done installing... I wish to try it out...
[09:59] <crispynix> vbgunz: alright
[09:59] <aftertaf> arwate:  :) cool. good to know
[09:59] <grexk> how long does ltsp-build-client download packages?
[10:00] <aftertaf> must have had ad dependancy somewhere.....
[10:01] <neologic_> hello
[10:02] <kataklysm-> MadpilotPPC: i didnt want repos from other OS"s i wanted some with repos that might have things that are non-free in them that the other non-free ones might not.. not like mixing and matching.. u took it wrong
[10:02] <eliphas_> how can I burn a audio cd from mp3 track ?
[10:02] <cafuego_> Please don't use /away or away nicks on #ubuntu.
[10:02] <MadpilotPPC> kataklysm-, you've got Multiverse already, I guess?
[10:03] <ben> Hey. I need a little help with installing PGP on Ubuntu. Anyone here use it succesfully?
[10:03] <linuxboy> whats that open source flash player called ?
[10:03] <eliphas_> how can I burn a audio cd from mp3 track ?
[10:04] <nalioth> eliphas_: use k3b
[10:04] <nalioth> ben: it's easy http://www.linuxgazette.com/node/8746
[10:04] <ben> nalioth: Cheers.
[10:04] <nalioth> linuxboy: gplflash i believe
[10:05] <eliphas_> k3 refuse to do it that's my probem
[10:05] <linuxboy> nalioth: thanks, I found it. You are right
[10:05] <nalioth> ben: i recommend kgpg if you need a gui frontend (i use the termimal)
[10:05] <nalioth> eliphas_: you need mp3 support libs installed
[10:05] <MadpilotPPC> ben, also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GPGKey
[10:06] <eliphas_> for k3b ?
[10:06] <nalioth> eliphas_: for mp3
[10:06] <nalioth> ubotu: tell eliphas_ about mp3
[10:06] <eliphas_> because I can listen mp3 on my laptop
[10:07] <nalioth> eliphas_: then you may need some other libs involved
[10:07] <eliphas_> tss tsss
[10:07] <eliphas_> okie
[10:07] <ben> Ferking Firefox closes itself everytime I open that Linuxgazette page. :-/
[10:07] <MadpilotPPC> Is there a way to rip streams into .ogg istead of .mp3?
[10:08] <jsgotangco> ogg can stream just no idea how to make it so
[10:08] <eliphas_> nalioth, sudo apt-get install k3b-mp3
[10:08] <nalioth> MadpilotPPC: yes, vorbis tools
[10:09] <MadpilotPPC> nalioth, that'll rip streaming audio into .ogg like Streamripper does w/ mp3?
[10:09] <nalioth> jsgotangco: ogg streams natively
[10:09] <nalioth> MadpilotPPC: no.
[10:09] <eliphas_> thanks nalioth
[10:10] <nalioth> MadpilotPPC: you can just capture the ogg streams
[10:10] <jsgotangco> ahhh
[10:10] <MadpilotPPC> nalioth, ah, OK - no way to get non-ogg streams ripped into .ogg, though?
[10:11] <nalioth> MadpilotPPC: you are talking "conversion" at this point
[10:11] <cafuego_> MadpilotPPC: Not without losing quality.
[10:12] <MadpilotPPC> nalioth, yeah, I guess so. I was just curious if it was possible at all
[10:12] <cat> what do you put on http://pgp.mit.edu/
[10:12] <nalioth> MadpilotPPC: with linux, 99% of anything is possible
[10:12] <cat> Enter ASCII-armored PGP key here:
[10:12] <nalioth> cat: your key
[10:12] <cat> what should i put?
[10:12] <cat> key marked as ultimately trusted
[10:12] <cafuego_> cat: Nothing, just use gpg --send-keys 0xXXXXXXX (your key id)
[10:12] <cat> which one is my key?
[10:12] <MadpilotPPC> cat, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GPGKey
[10:13] <nalioth> cafuego_: cat wants to know what goes in the blank
[10:13] <cat> cafuego_: this is what i have
[10:13] <cat> pub  1024D/2F90F499 2005-10-01 Aaron H Farias Martinez (Ubuntu the best) <aaron@bitchx.org>
[10:13] <cat>      Key fingerprint = 925D F8D6 CA0E 36FA E6D7  C8D7 406D 854C 2F90 F499
[10:13] <cafuego_> nalioth; yeah, that involves an ascii export, pita.
[10:13] <cat> sub  2048g/A465D8A9 2005-10-01
[10:13] <cat> sorry about the flood
[10:13] <nalioth> cat: you can "gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --send-keys (your8digitkeyID)
[10:13] <cafuego_> cat: gpg --send-key 0x2F90F499
[10:13] <cafuego_> cat: much easier that way (or use seahorse)
[10:14] <cat> so which one are my 8digit key?
[10:14] <cafuego_> Yay, new X again :-)
[10:14] <cat> sorry i'm lost
[10:14] <leo__> hi
[10:14] <cafuego_> cat: 2F90F499
[10:14] <cafuego_> cat the 1024D/2F90F499 means it'd a 1024 bit Diffie-Hellman key.
[10:14] <cafuego_> cat: The part behind the slash is the key id.
[10:15] <cat> gpg: success sending to `pgp.mit.edu' (status=200)
[10:15] <nalioth> cat: you can read the wiki page on gpg, and also this one http://www.linuxgazette.com/node/8746
[10:15] <nalioth> cat: also remember "gpg --help" and "man gnupg" are your friends
[10:15] <shinu> is there any mpc to mp3 converter?
[10:15] <cafuego_> "gpg: key 2F90F499: public key "Aaron H Farias Martinez (Ubuntu the best) <aaron@bitchx.org>" imported"
[10:15] <cat> lame
[10:16] <cat> ok
[10:16] <bob2> cat: bear in mind that the comment string you used there will be visible forever
[10:16] <bob2> cat: even perhaps after you decide you don't like ubuntu anymore...
[10:16] <cafuego_> bob2: Are you implying Ubuntu will one day not be the best? ;-)
[10:16] <cat> cafuego_: so i send that?
[10:16] <cafuego_> cat; No, it's done. I already downloaded it off the keyserver to here :-)
[10:17] <cat> oh
[10:17] <cat> how can i see it?
[10:17] <joachim_> what's a good html editor that's better than gedit but not as crazy as bluefish?
[10:17] <cat> joachim_: quanta
[10:17] <nalioth> joachim_: there are several
[10:17] <cafuego_> cat: gpg --recv-keys <yourkeyid>
[10:17] <cafuego_> joachim_: vim
[10:17] <cat> gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
[10:18] <cafuego_> cat: gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys <yourkeyid>
[10:18] <cat> sucks to be a newbie
[10:18] <nalioth> cat: gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys (yourkeyID)
[10:18] <cat> oh ok saw it =)
[10:18] <cat> so it's done already
[10:18] <cafuego_> cat: Give 'seahorse' a try. it's a GUI frontend for gnupg.
[10:18] <LasseL> joachim_, jEdit with the xml plugin
[10:18] <MadpilotPPC> joachim_, try Screem
[10:18] <nalioth> cat: in the days ahead, the keyservers will sync and your key will be lots more places
[10:19] <zig0> i just got a cd from a friend
[10:19] <nalioth> cat: or kgpg
[10:19] <cafuego_> kgpg has more functionality, but does depend ona an awful lot of KDE libs.
[10:19] <zig0> i was wondering if you guys...are the same that those idiots in undernet #linux or #linuxhelp?
[10:20] <cafuego_> zig0: yes, we are.
[10:20] <MadpilotPPC> zig0, no, some of us are different idiots
[10:20] <jsgotangco> lol
[10:20] <nalioth> zig0: sorry i'm a one network idiot
[10:20] <zig0> :D
[10:20] <arwate> how do I select a specific java version whose package is installed but /usr/bin/java is not pointing to it?
[10:20] <cafuego_> I think i'm too old to be allowed on undernet actually.
[10:20] <jsgotangco> i like the gpg tool of thunderbird (enigmail)
[10:20] <joachim_> I'm going to see how scite is coming along.
[10:20] <cafuego_> Seeing as I'm 14 now.
[10:20] <zig0> when i ask a question there... everybody pretends that doens`t understands...
[10:20] <bob2> zig0: er, if you're going to troll, please just leave now
[10:20] <zig0> big guruuus
[10:21] <zig0> i`m not bob2
[10:21] <cafuego_> zig0: People here cna probably help, provided you ask consise and to the point questions, in relativelty decent english.
[10:21] <zig0> ok.e
[10:21] <zig0> &sorry for my bad english
[10:21] <cafuego_> so syntax mess up grammar and you when, not perhaps.
[10:22] <cafuego_> zig0: Your english is fine :-)
[10:22] <bob2> zig0: the bigger issue is people who speak like they're on AIM; using english as well as you can is fine ;)
[10:22] <zig0> :D
[10:22] <zig0> 10q
[10:22] <zig0> :P
[10:23] <bob2> that's a good example of what's irritating, yes
[10:23] <WebLOCH> oioi
[10:23] <zig0> so guys...can i get some answers? from where are you? and what do you do 4 a living?
[10:24] <bob2> zig0: this is a channel for ubuntu support; try #ubuntu-offtopic if you just wan to chat
[10:25] <kataklysm-> how do i make a deb package from a tarball?
[10:26] <cafuego_> kataklysm-: Easiest way is via 'checkinstall'.
[10:26] <kataklysm-> i need to get the source to serpentine and compile it as a deb
[10:26] <nalioth> !tell kataklysm- about checkinstall
[10:27] <bob2> kataklysm-: caphuso did point you at the right documentation
[10:27] <grexk> does it really takes hours for the command "ltsp-build-client"?
[10:27] <cafuego_> bob2: caphuso is on #debian
[10:28] <cafuego_> grexk: On a pentium 60 with 16 Mb ram, sure.
[10:29] <cafuego_> bob2: Ah, i see :-)
[10:29] <grexk> how about 1800 P4 with 128mb ram?
[10:30] <cafuego_> grexk: Probably still a while, 128 isn't great. especially with gnome running.
[10:31] <shinu> is mpc2mp3 in the repos?
[10:32] <joachim_> in screem, how do I do a replace within the current selection?
[10:32] <joj> Oh, hi!
[10:32] <joj> ubuntu people!
[10:32] <joj> nice name but ...
[10:32] <joj> nick /lx
[10:32] <grexk> cafuego: Thanks, what if I use the ltspadmin and install the packages are their compatibility issues?
[10:32] <joj> linuxo is much better
[10:33] <cafuego_> !better
[10:33] <ubotu> Better for what? Better for whom? Why don't you try them all, then decide for yourself?
[10:33] <joj> ubotu:ok
[10:33] <ubotu> joj: Are you smoking crack?
[10:33] <joj> i tried them all
[10:33] <joj> ubotu: well ... yeah
[10:33] <ubotu> joj: I don't know, could you explain it?
[10:33] <nalioth> !ubotu
[10:33] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:33] <cafuego_> grexk: No idea...
[10:33] <joj> did you ever hurd of linuxo?
[10:34] <cafuego_> grexk: As far as i can tell ltsp is all precompiled.
[10:34] <grexk> cafuego: how long did you build your client?
[10:34] <joj> linuxo.org
[10:35] <cafuego_> grexk: I don't use it.
[10:35] <grexk> cafuego: ah ok...
[10:35] <cafuego_> joj: Did you have an Ubuntu _question_ ?
[10:35] <cafuego_> !info ltsp-client
[10:36] <grexk> cafuego: By the way I just want to test this new Breezy and LTSP integration and shift to ubuntu...
[10:36] <cafuego_> grexk: ltsp 0.57 is in Breezy.
[10:37] <cafuego_> grexk: For remote lightweight boxen, I use nfsroot and xdmcp, though. Works fine.
[10:37] <rekrutacja> hi all i would like to dist upgrade to breezy rc, but since this is first time i will upgrade ever i have several questions. first is: if i decided to uninstall for example totem and install another media player will it be installed again as a standard part of distribution? and if there are new packages included in standard distribution (for exaple - beagle) will they be installed?
[10:38] <grexk> cafuego: I got this a message and I already finish installing KDE:
[10:38] <bob2> rekrutacja: it's way way way way way simpler to instal ubuntu-desktop before upgrading
[10:38] <grexk> I: Validating Packages
[10:38] <grexk> I: Checking component main on http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu...
[10:38] <bob2> rekrutacja: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[10:38] <cafuego_> rekrutacja: it will 1) Upgrade all packages that are installed and 2) Add any new packages that are required by the new, updated software.
[10:38] <grexk> cafuego: I have'nt tried that one...
[10:39] <cafuego_> rekrutacja: it will _not_ install software you doid not have installed to begin with and that is not required by anything else that is installed.
[10:40] <cafuego_> grexk: Simple way of having users log into X on a single, central server.
[10:42] <grexk> cafuego: do you have any idea on shutting down my clients or software I can use?
[10:43] <ColonelKernel> how can I add the -j3 option to make-kpkg?
[10:43] <bob2> MAKE="make -j3" or so
[10:43] <ColonelKernel> bob2, where does that go?
[10:43] <rekrutacja> i have read upgrade notes. i understand, that if i install ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop all new packages will be installed automagically?
[10:44] <grexk> cafuego: finally I got this one...
[10:44] <grexk> I: Extracting base-files...
[10:44] <bob2> ColonelKernel: as an env var...
[10:44] <grexk> I: Extracting base-passwd...
[10:44] <grexk> I: Extracting bash...
[10:44] <grexk> I: Extracting bsdutils...
[10:44] <grexk> I: Extracting coreutils...
[10:44] <grexk> I: Extracting debconf...
[10:44] <grexk> I: Extracting debconf-i18n...
[10:44] <grexk> I: Extracting debianutils...
[10:44] <joj> juce sam bio da berem oraje
[10:44] <joj> padali su i SAMO TAKO
[10:44] <joj> i sad
[10:44] <aftertaf> english....
[10:44] <joj> to ustvari nije bilo juce nego prekjuce
[10:44] <ColonelKernel> bob2, you mean MAKE="make -j3" make-kpkg --revision=foo kernel-image ?
[10:45] <bob2> ColonelKernel: you may need to export it
[10:45] <aftertaf> :) bob2
[10:45] <nalioth_wrkn> joj: english please
[10:45] <ColonelKernel> bob2, to what?
[10:45] <joj> ok
[10:45] <bob2> ColonelKernel: ?
[10:45] <bob2> ColonelKernel: to the shell...export MAKE=whateva
[10:45] <joj> indeed that was yesterday
[10:45] <joj> i was eating kajmak
[10:45] <joj> but then ... i found out sth
[10:46] <joj> why was I kicked?
[10:46] <ColonelKernel> bob2, as in export MAKE="-j3" ?
[10:46] <ColonelKernel> right on
[10:46] <bob2> ColonelKernel: that's not what I said...
[10:46] <joj> i was eating kajmak ....
[10:46] <bob2> joj: because you're a) babbling and b) off-topic
[10:46] <nalioth_wrkn> joj: you are offtopic here
[10:47] <nalioth_wrkn> joj: join #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:47] <iiiears___> using tar to upgrade an application is "tar -XVOF" what i want?
[10:47] <cat> sea/whois SuperLag
[10:47] <ColonelKernel> bob2, can you please explain what you mean in terms that are easy to understand?
[10:47] <joj> ok
[10:47] <bob2> iiiears___: just unpacking it should be enough
[10:47] <cat> bla
[10:47] <iiiears___> tar,bz  file extension
[10:47] <nalioth_wrkn> iiiears___: ??? weird never heard of that
[10:47] <bob2> ColonelKernel: export MAKE="make -j3"
[10:47] <bob2> iiiears___: tho dumping jun kfrom tarfiles in / is almost always a terrible idea
[10:48] <ColonelKernel> bob2, what do I do if I typed the other thing in to remove it?
[10:48] <bob2> ColonelKernel: what other thing?
[10:48] <iiiears___> << always manages with newb (craftiness?) to do the unanticipated. - lol
[10:48] <bob2> iiiears___: what are you trying to upgrade?
[10:48] <ColonelKernel> bob2, export MAKE="-j3" ?
[10:48] <iiiears___> just a game
[10:49] <ColonelKernel> im not exactly sure what this export command does
[10:49] <cat> what's the command to configured alsa?
[10:49] <bob2> ColonelKernel: dude
[10:49] <bob2> cat: what would you configure?
[10:49] <ccooke> cat: configure in what way?
[10:49] <cat> alsaconf?
[10:49] <cat> to setup my sound card and stuff
[10:49] <iiiears___> (blush game addiction is revealed) Unreal Tournament 2004.
[10:49] <cafuego_> iiiears___: Unpacking a tarball in / normally fucks up the permissions on / and any other dir that is written to.
[10:49] <cat> right now i don't have sound
[10:49] <ColonelKernel> bob2, the word dude isnt very helpful, can you please explain what the export command does? there's no manual entry for it.
[10:50] <bob2> ColonelKernel: I told you exactly what to run
[10:50] <ColonelKernel> sigh
[10:50] <bob2> ColonelKernel: the export command puts the variable into your shells listed of exported variables
[10:50] <bob2> ColonelKernel: so that when it runs other commands, they also see it
[10:50] <cafuego_> ColonelKernel: 'man bash' will have an entry to exporting of variables.
[10:50] <bob2> ColonelKernel: stop being obnoxious
[10:50] <iiiears___> good tip. - always learn something very useful here. :)
[10:50] <bob2> ColonelKernel: "help export" explains it, as does the bash documentation
[10:50] <ColonelKernel> bob2, thank you
[10:50] <bob2> cat: what is there to setup? hotplug will load the module automatically.
[10:50] <ccooke> cat: okay. do you have a volume icon on the panel?
[10:51] <malv> i've been seeing a lot of high ranking posts on digg about Ubuntu
[10:51] <cat> yeah but the sound isn't working
[10:51] <cafuego_> iiiears___: Best bet is unpack in /tmp, see what's in it, move it via 'cp' to where it needs to go.
[10:51] <ccooke> cat: usually at the top right of th screen, unless you've moved it.
[10:51] <malv> looks like its going to get a large influx of new users
[10:51] <ccooke> cat: does the icon have a little red x on it?
[10:51] <sktrdie> Hello
[10:51] <sktrdie> anyone in Breezy?
[10:51] <ColonelKernel> well man bash has far too much stuff in it to sift through
[10:51] <iiiears___> read some nice reviews of Ubuntu recently. - biggest compliments paid to the freindly communitty.
[10:51] <cat> yeah
[10:51] <cat> wonder y
[10:51] <ccooke> cat: your sound is probably muted.
[10:52] <malv> at least on Digg, all the comments were very positive
[10:52] <ccooke> cat: alsa, by default, always mutes the sound
[10:52] <iiiears___> Thank You cafuego - i'll do that.
[10:52] <sktrdie> What is up with the update-manager, it shows me like 500 packages.... I mean I dont want to install alll fo them.
[10:52] <ccooke> cat: if you click on the volume control and increase the volume, what happens?
[10:52] <cafuego_> sktrdie: that's what happens when you run an non-release version.
[10:52] <ccooke> cat: try it while playing something
[10:52] <cat> nothing happends
[10:52] <bob2> cat: is the correct module loaded?
[10:52] <cafuego_> sktrdie: There have been in between 50 and 200 packages per day over the past week.
[10:53] <malv> Heh, I have a partially updated breezy.
[10:53] <ccooke> cat: okay. there's a good chance the volume control is pointing at the wrong mixer
[10:53] <malv> Couldn't go all the way
[10:53] <ColonelKernel> once I export something, do I have to do it every time I boot up or is that a one time thing?
[10:53] <sktrdie> cafuego_, what if I want only some packages, isnt there a simple way to deselect all?
[10:53] <spiral> hi
[10:53] <cafuego_> sktrdie: Yes, but then use 'synaptic' instead.
[10:53] <ccooke> cat: if you right-click on the volume icon and click "Open Volume Control"
[10:53] <ccooke> cat: okay?
[10:53] <bob2> ColonelKernel: it only affects the current shell, and it's descendants
[10:53] <cat> so what's the command for alsa to detect my sound card?
[10:53] <bob2> which is quite elegant
[10:53] <sktrdie> cafuego_ how do I upgrade a package in synaptic?
[10:54] <bob2> cat: also has no idea, hotplug loads modules for PCI devices
[10:54] <cafuego_> sktrdie: On the left hand panel, click 'Installe (upgradeable)' and unselect what you don't want to update.
[10:54] <cat> oh well it's says here Cannot connect to sound daemon. please run esd at a command prompt
[10:54] <bob2> cat: ignore that
[10:54] <ccooke> cat: okay. Running hoary?
[10:54] <malv> are you able to start up esd?
[10:54] <ubiquitin> i wonder how i could get my dmix configuration to how breezy wants it
[10:54] <ubiquitin> i set it up by myself earlier with hoary
[10:54] <cat> yeah
[10:54] <cat> hoary
[10:54] <malv> at least for me, the alsa-oss module wasn't loaded so I couldn't get esd to load up
[10:54] <bob2> ubiquitin: it should Just Work
[10:54] <cafuego_> sktrdie: You can tell it to mark all upgradeable packages for update, then unselect what you don't want. OR just right-click what you want to upgrade and mark them by hand.
[10:55] <ccooke> cat: can you get a terminal up?
[10:55] <cat> yeah
[10:55] <ubiquitin> and now it crackles and pops and it's probably because of something that doesn't quite work in my asound.conf
[10:55] <ccooke> cat: type: cat /proc/asound/cards
[10:55] <Delvien2001> Hey guys
[10:55] <ccooke> cat: you should have something listed there
[10:55] <ccooke> cat: do you?
[10:55] <cat> 0 [V8235          ] : VIA8233 - VIA 8235
[10:55] <cat>                      VIA 8235 with CMI9761 at 0xdc00, irq 22
[10:55] <Delvien2001> Anyone Familiar with installing a Internal Bluetooth driver for the Dell Truemobil 350 ???
[10:56] <ccooke> cat: good. your sound card is detected and working.
[10:56] <ccooke> cat: please type:
[10:56] <ccooke> cat: sorry, not type, click
[10:56] <ccooke> cat: System -> Preferences -> Sound
[10:56] <ccooke> cat: okay
[10:58] <Delvien2001> Anyone Familiar with installing a Internal Bluetooth driver for the Dell Truemobil 350 ???
[10:58] <bob2> Delvien2001: no need to ask over and over
[10:58] <malv> Delvien2001: If someone knows I am sure they would be willing to help
[10:58] <bob2> Delvien2001: also, try the mailing list or the forums
[10:59] <cat> is there any way i can mount my window so i can play some mp3s
[10:59] <Delvien2001> i am trying the forums, no one seems to know
[10:59] <cat> and see if it works
[10:59] <ccooke> cat: mount your window? windows partition?
[10:59] <cat> yeah
[10:59] <Tomcat_> Delvien2001: Well your question is a bit specific, too...
[10:59] <cat> so i can play an mp3 and see if it works
[11:00] <Tomcat_> Delvien2001: It would help if you found out (Google) what manufacturer/type/chip the bluetooth of your laptop uses, then ask for information on that.
[11:00] <MadpilotPPC> !tell cat about windowsdrives
[11:00] <Tomcat_> Delvien2001: It's like asking how to plug in a specific type of freezer, when 99% of all freezers have the same kind of plug :)
[11:01] <cat> well MadpilotPPC i can see my windows os when i restart the computer i just want to mount it so i can see my files on linux so i can play an mp3
[11:01] <ccooke> cat: you'll have a message from ubotu
[11:01] <ccooke> take a look at it
[11:01] <MadpilotPPC> cat, follow the URL that ubotu just sent you
[11:01] <s_wart> I'm trying to use cupsaddsmb to add a printer driver to a samba share. It claims it's installed the driver successfully, but even with the -v flag it doesn't appear to be doing anything other than 'setdriver' (i.e. it's not copying the files to the print$ share)
[11:02] <cat> i did
[11:02] <cat> i saw it it's a bash script
[11:02] <ccooke> cat: that's right
[11:02] <s_wart> the samba docs say to use /var/lib/samba/drivers or something that doesn't exist on ubuntu -- the config file on my machine is using /tmp (but I don't see how that can make a difference)
[11:02] <ccooke> it'll mount any windows drives you have
[11:02] <cat> what do i say it as?
[11:03] <cat> *save it
[11:03] <ccooke> any name you like
[11:03] <cat> ok done
[11:03] <s_wart> has anyone managed to get cups/samba working on breezy?
[11:03] <cat> and then i put ./name ?
[11:04] <tournesol> Seveas: hi, are you at the terminal?
[11:04] <cat> ?
[11:04] <ccooke> you can type 'bash ./name', but you can't run it as './name' unless it's executable; to do that, first type 'chmod +x ./name'
[11:04] <cat> i get alot of errors
[11:05] <BooZee> how can I change from KDM to GDM ?
[11:05] <ccooke> !tell cat about paste
[11:05] <bob2> BooZee: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[11:05] <ccooke> cat: if you follow the link you've just got, then give us the link to it?
[11:05] <cat> ccooke: i'm on flood
[11:06] <ccooke> cat: I don't understand?
[11:06] <cat> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2689
[11:07] <BooZee> 10x
[11:07] <cat> saw it ccooke ?
[11:08] <ccooke> cat: yes. how did you download the file?
[11:08] <iiiears___> bob2 - Is there a new command to reconfigure the display?  "...gdm" ?
[11:08] <bob2> iiiears___: no
[11:08] <iiiears___> ah okay.
[11:08] <ccooke> cat: try again, this time by using File -> Save as in your browser.
[11:08] <ccooke> cat: okay?
[11:08] <cat> Added /dev/hda1 as '/media/77 GB Disk (hda1)'
[11:08] <cat> NTFS drives will be mounted read-only!
[11:08] <cat> All windows and mac partitions will now be mounted every time you boot
[11:08] <cat> You do not need to reboot, the partitions are mounted now too
[11:08] <ccooke> cat: I've just checked, and the script works fine here
[11:09] <ccooke> cat: good :-)
[11:09] <cat> so how can i play my windows mp3?
[11:09] <ccooke> cat: yes.
[11:09] <iiiears___> man tar - dozens of switches. - a bit dazed and confused. - grin
[11:09] <cat> how
[11:09] <ccooke> cat: click Places -> Computer
[11:09] <cat> hold up a sec
[11:09] <ccooke> cat: Filesystem -> media -> 77
[11:10] <joachim_> does anyone happen to have the link for the site that has tons of examples of css list styling? google is being awkward
[11:10] <rigel> i installed kubuntu on this machine
[11:10] <rigel> is there anyway i could convert it to straight up ubuntu using apt somehow
[11:10] <rigel> i.e. gnome rather than kde
[11:11] <Prof_Frink> apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[11:11] <Prof_Frink> then choose gnome from gdm
[11:11] <rigel> and thatll switch everything over?
[11:11] <Prof_Frink> it'll give you both
[11:11] <rigel> \word
[11:11] <Prof_Frink> (I did the exact opposite a couple of days ago)
[11:11] <MadpilotPPC> cat, you'll need to install mp3 codecs - Ubuntu won't play them by default...
[11:11] <rigel> (you forgot the sudo)
[11:12] <TiMiDo> now gdm doesn't star i'm cat (:
[11:13] <TiMiDo> darn it
[11:21] <RiverRat> You guys haven't had much of a spam-bot problem have you?
[11:21] <TiMiDo> nope
[11:21] <bob2> yes, we have
[11:21] <RiverRat> Lucky.  #debian and #gentoo are getting killed.  :/
[11:21] <TiMiDo> ~~
[11:21] <bob2> but freenode disabled /msg's from unidentified users
[11:21] <bob2> and the channel is +r
[11:21] <bob2> so few of them get through at
[11:21] <bob2> m
[11:21] <RiverRat> That doesn't get rid of the join/part spam though.
[11:22] <bob2> that's what +r is for
[11:22] <RiverRat> That does
[11:22] <bob2> which is a terrible solution, but there you go
[11:22] <RiverRat> We go +r sometimes but we haven't stayed that way more than a few hours.
[11:22] <iiiears___> You guys are the best! Thank You. :)            ( I am off to fear in the hearts of a few Unreal Tournament 2004 players - grin)
[11:23] <RiverRat> bob2: Yea, gentoo really dislikes that solution too as it dissuades the beginners from asking for help.
[11:24] <rob^> sorry guys just having an issue with this server
[11:26] <TiMiDo> ccooke, can i still see the windows partition on kde
[11:26] <TiMiDo> i can't get into gnome i'm cat
[11:26] <MadpilotPPC> TiMiDo, KDE is going to use exactly the same method that you used in Gnome to get to your Windows stuff...
[11:27] <sexcopter8000m> hi there, does anyone know how to change profiles in firefox?
[11:27] <ccooke> TiMiDo: okay. In Konqueror, try going to /media
[11:27] <ccooke> TiMiDo: what do you see there?
[11:27] <TiMiDo> saw it thank you
[11:28] <ccooke> you'd go to the same place in gnome
[11:28] <TiMiDo> well i can't play anything
[11:28] <TiMiDo> no sound
[11:28] <ccooke> but you seem to have more serioous problems - the gnome issue
[11:28] <ccooke> what happens when you try to get into gnome?
[11:28] <TiMiDo> i can't get into it
[11:28] <FrankyFourFinger> g'morning
[11:28] <ccooke> what happens?
[11:29] <TiMiDo> i wait for 10 minutes and nothing appears
[11:29] <TiMiDo> but right now i have no sound
[11:29] <ccooke> TiMiDo: okay. can you get a konsole up?
[11:29] <TiMiDo> yeah
[11:29] <ccooke> TiMiDo: type 'esd'
[11:29] <ccooke> TiMiDo: what happens?
[11:30] <TiMiDo> esd: Esound sound daemon already running or stale UNIX socket
[11:30] <TiMiDo> /tmp/.esd/socket
[11:30] <ccooke> right.
[11:30] <TiMiDo> wonder what the heck is going on
[11:30] <ccooke> cat: type ps auwwx  |grep esd
[11:30] <ccooke> cat: do you see anything?
[11:30] <TiMiDo> root      8373  0.0  0.6   5328  4028 ?        S    04:54   0:00 esd
[11:30] <TiMiDo> root     14837  0.0  0.1   2904   716 pts/2    R+   05:30   0:00 gr
[11:31] <ccooke> TiMiDo: okay, so esd is running as root.
[11:31] <TiMiDo> yeah
[11:31] <ccooke> TiMiDo: which it shouldn't be.
[11:31] <TiMiDo> oh
[11:31] <ccooke> TiMiDo: sudo killall esd
[11:31] <ccooke> TiMiDo: it should run as the user who needs it.
[11:31] <TiMiDo> ok
[11:32] <TiMiDo> i still don't have sound
[11:33] <sexcopter8000m> ok in answer to my question it's "mozilla-firefox -ProfileManager"
[11:33] <BooZee> for some reason, some of my settings doesn't get saved when I reboot my comp..
[11:33] <inc|freaky> hi all. im trying to record something using my microphone with audacity pushing the record button. it just doesnt work. ... any ideas?
[11:33] <BooZee> like my dns servers
[11:34] <TiMiDo> how come ccooke
[11:34] <TiMiDo> ?
[11:34] <ccooke> TiMiDo: now, as a normal user - *not* as root - run esd
[11:34] <TiMiDo> i can't get sound
[11:34] <TiMiDo> i did run it as normal user
[11:34] <TiMiDo> cat@Linux:~$ esd
[11:34] <ccooke> TiMiDo: you've run it? right.
[11:34] <TiMiDo> yes i did
[11:34] <dhonn> how do I do "toram" on the breezy live cd
[11:34] <ccooke> TiMiDo: can you start an mp3 playing?
[11:34] <ccooke> TiMiDo: so we can tell when you *get* sound
[11:35] <TiMiDo> yeah i can with xmms
[11:35] <Sconk> is there a way of make the live cd boot a smp kernel?
[11:35] <TiMiDo> but i can't hear anyting
[11:35] <TiMiDo> *anything
[11:35] <ccooke> TiMiDo: set it to repeat
[11:35] <ccooke> TiMiDo: well, no. you can't get sound. you've mentioned this. So not hearing anything is expected, currently...
[11:35] <ccooke> TiMiDo: however, if something is playing, then we'll know when we do something *right*
[11:36] <BooZee> can somone help me with my settings saving problem? I'm setting my dns servers, and when I reboot the comp, they just vanished!
[11:36] <crimsun_> TiMiDo, what's the issue? music plays in XMMS, but you can't hear anything?
[11:36] <TiMiDo> right on noatun doesn't have sound either
[11:36] <TiMiDo> yes crimsun_
[11:36] <TiMiDo> i can't hear anything
[11:36] <crimsun_> TiMiDo, lspci -v|grep -i audio
[11:36] <sktrdie> has anyone got VLC installed on breezy?
[11:36] <crimsun_> sktrdie, yes, I do. Why?
[11:36] <TiMiDo> ac97 crimsun_
[11:37] <crimsun_> TiMiDo, I need the output from that command.
[11:37] <TiMiDo> 0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)
[11:37] <ccooke> TiMiDo: the most likely cause is your volume being muted
[11:37] <crimsun_> TiMiDo, paste the output from amixer onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:38] <Rickyniano> hi! I have a problem. I updated to Breezy today, and now the "Synchronizing clock to ntp.ubuntulinux.org" failed during startup
[11:38] <Delvien2001> Does anyone know why i cant edit .conf files with GEDIT?
[11:38] <nalioth> Delvien2001: are you using "sudo" to open the files?
[11:38] <Delvien2001> yes
[11:38] <TiMiDo> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2690
[11:38] <TiMiDo> that's the link crimsun_
[11:38] <Rickyniano> anyone has the same problem?
[11:39] <crimsun_> TiMiDo, you need to mute a few things.
[11:39] <jhiver> hi all
[11:39] <jhiver> I need help with printing
[11:39] <jhiver> all the fonts I print look horrible!
[11:40] <TiMiDo> oh such as?
[11:40] <crimsun_> TiMiDo, please mute IEC958 and IEC958 Capture Monitor
[11:40] <jhiver> I use turboprint with the "breezy badger"
[11:40] <TiMiDo> how?
[11:40] <jhiver> is used to work fine with hoary...
[11:40] <jhiver> any ideas?
[11:40] <crimsun_> TiMiDo, use alsamixer, or open a Terminal and type amixer sset 'IEC958' off && amixer sset 'IEC958 Capture Monitor' off
[11:41] <TiMiDo> there we go
[11:42] <TiMiDo> thnx
[11:42] <TiMiDo> so when i restart it will be the same?
[11:42] <crimsun_> np
[11:42] <crimsun_> things will work fine when you restart
[11:42] <crimsun_> you might want to ''sudo alsactl store'' now
[11:42] <TiMiDo> done
[11:43] <boxerboy29> ok updates said i installed new kernel but its the same number kernel?
[11:44] <Delvien2001>  what im trying to do is get my tilt wheel and scoll bar working on the BT mouse i just got working. but everytime i try to get sudo gedit (or nano) /etc/x11/xorg.conf   It says there was no file and creates a new one
[11:44] <Delvien2001>  i can open it directly with Gedit, but cant seem to edit it that way
[11:45] <Delvien2001> any ideas anyone?
[11:45] <nalioth> Delvien2001: "locate xorg.conf"
[11:46] <Delvien2001> ok
[11:46] <Delvien2001> in the same spot i was trying
[11:46] <BooZee> my dns settings don't get saved to the next reboot..
[11:46] <apokryphos> boxerboy29: you have to restart to change the kernel you're using
[11:46] <boxerboy29> i did
[11:46] <boxerboy29> and its same number
[11:47] <nalioth> Delvien2001: if it opens blank. then you either need to add the stuff you want to, or the settings are kept in another places
[11:47] <apokryphos> boxerboy29: well, what one is it you're trying to install?
[11:47] <boxerboy29> 2.6.12-9 i think
[11:47] <Delvien2001> o
[11:47] <Gorth-> Before I try the Colony-5 I would like to know if the ipw2100 wireless card is supported?
[11:47] <apokryphos> boxerboy29: ...and you currently have
[11:47] <boxerboy29> same
[11:48] <boxerboy29> the last time i updated it it updated to 2.6.12-9
[11:48] <wamox> heyas all
[11:48] <apokryphos> boxerboy29: obv. you're going to have to give more information. For what CPU are you getting it then?
[11:48] <boxerboy29> 386
[11:49] <liable> meh, cant even make a bootable usb thing :(
[11:49] <apokryphos> boxerboy29: so what exactly is the problem? It's not changing to the "same kernel"?
[11:49] <Delvien2001> Thats the thing, i can open the file but its completly blank, creating a new file
[11:49] <Delvien2001> Is there some kind of hotkey to edit a .conf with gedit
[11:49] <boxerboy29> the kernel numbers are same from before updates and after updates
[11:50] <apokryphos> boxerboy29: what "updates"? That's unbelievably vague
[11:51] <boxerboy29> the updates for breezy that i just did like 2 mins ago
[11:51] <boxerboy29> there were 107 of them
[11:51] <apokryphos> boxerboy29: so what's the actual problem?
[11:51] <wamox> ive got a big problem here.. Im going Linux admin course. and part of my final test is to set up an apache server, with a cgi-bin..  and i cant get the cgi-bin to work.. I would love if somone could guide me trough this
[11:52] <wamox> and maybe pm me
[11:52] <boxerboy29> no problem i just wanna know why the updates said a new kernel was installed when i dont see a new kernel
[11:52] <Asad2005> I wont to upgrade to kernel image 2.6.12-9.18 for sk98lin network card, what packages I need to download ?
[11:53] <TiMiDo> Error: The GUI requires GTK devel packages (which were not found).
[11:53] <TiMiDo> how can i get the gtk? devel pacakge?
[11:53] <apokryphos> boxerboy29: it might well have been a different packaged version of the new kernel; that means that the actual *kernel number* wouldn't change
[11:53] <TiMiDo> *package
[11:53] <nalioth> TiMiDo: use synaptic
[11:53] <boxerboy29> oh ok thank you
[11:53] <Asad2005> I need to download from another PC since I have no connection to internet
[11:53] <TiMiDo> what's the package name i can't used synamptic everytime i used it it says wrong root passwd
[11:53] <nalioth> Asad2005: use apt-zip
[11:53] <TiMiDo> so not sure what's going on
[11:53] <TiMiDo> even on sudo
[11:54] <nalioth> ubotu: tell TiMiDo about root
[11:54] <wamox> noone with apache/cgi-bin knowledge here?
[11:54] <MadpilotPPC> TiMiDo, use your own user pw, there is no root pw in Ubuntu by default...
[11:54] <MadpilotPPC> wamox, have you tried #apache?
[11:54] <Asad2005> nalioth, What apt-zip going to do
[11:55] <apokryphos> Asad2005: man apt-zip
[11:55] <wamox> ill try that:)
[11:55] <Asad2005> tried no man page for apt-zip
[11:56] <apokryphos> then you probably don't have it installed
[11:56] <apokryphos> !info apt-zip
[11:56] <ubotu> apt-zip: (Update a non-networked computer using apt and removable media), section universe/admin, is extra. Version: 0.13.2 (hoary), Packaged size: 14 kB, Installed size: 96 kB
[11:56] <TiMiDo> ok =)
[11:56] <TiMiDo> i'm on synaptic
[11:56] <TiMiDo> what do i do now?
[11:56] <obontu> i can't seem to find avidemux2 on synaptic, and i know it's been there before
[11:56] <TiMiDo> how can i get the GTK devel package?
[11:56] <obontu> is there some repositories i can it on
[11:57] <apokryphos> TiMiDo: don't use gtk, so don't know what it's called, but apt-get build-dep xchat would bring it in
[11:57] <TiMiDo> !info gtk
[11:57] <nalioth> TiMiDo: search for "libgtk" and find the -dev package that matches the one you have already
[11:57] <nalioth> Anak1n: please turn off that script
[11:57] <wamox> lol..170 ppl at #apache and no answear..:)
[11:58] <Delvien2001> Am i doing something wrong.. Why cant i load up a file with sudo nano or gedit and edita conf file
[11:58] <Anak1n> nalioth: what I do?
[11:58] <nalioth> Anak1n: did you ask cafuego_ your question about ubotu?
[11:58] <nalioth> Anak1n: your away script. turn it off in #ubuntu, please
[11:58] <Anak1n> nalioth: yes but he didn't answer. Ok i'll turn it off
[11:58] <TiMiDo> thnx alot nalioth
[11:59] <nalioth> Anak1n: thank you. and try cafuego_ later
[11:59] <apokryphos> Anak1n, nalioth: what question?
[11:59] <nalioth> apokryphos: how to host ubotu in other channels
[11:59] <Anak1n> nalioth: np
[11:59] <apokryphos> You'll have to get cafuego to do that, yes.
[12:00] <TiMiDo> download blootbot, and get the factoids
[12:00] <TiMiDo> from him
[12:01] <apokryphos> er, no... blootbot won't have the ubotu factoids
[12:01] <BooZee> my dns settings don't get saved to the next reboot..
[12:01] <apokryphos> he's a tweaked cvs blootbot
[12:02] <nalioth> TiMiDo: yes, ubotu is definitely a non-standard blootbot
[12:04] <QMario> How do I watch Quicktime movies in Mozilla Firefox?
[12:04] <QMario> It claims I am missing a plug-in.
[12:04] <nalioth> QMario: install libquicktime
[12:05] <QMario> Nalioth, then should I restart Mozilla Firefox?
[12:05] <nalioth> QMario: do you have the mplayer mozilla plugin?
[12:05] <Anak1n> !volume
[12:05] <ubotu> Anak1n: Are you on ritalin?
[12:06] <QMario> Nalioth, yes.
[12:06] <Cryptid> How do i reduce the size of the icons ????
[12:06] <stein> Hi! Does hoary have any WLAN monitoring utilitiy ?
[12:07] <QMario> Nalioth?
[12:07] <nalioth> QMario: then restart ff and see
[12:07] <Anak1n> stein: network monitor
[12:07] <QMario> Okay, and hello. I haven't heard from you in a long time. It is nice to hear from you again. :)
[12:07] <stein> Anak1n: Where is it ? Is it installed by default ?
[12:08] <nalioth> QMario: 2 ships and all that
[12:08] <Anak1n> stein: yes right click on task bar add to this panel and find network monitor
[12:09] <stein> Anak1n: got it, 10x
[12:09] <Anak1n> stein: np
[12:09] <DjKritical> I'm about to install ubuntu on a computer which only has a TV Screen plugged into the SVGA port on the graphics card.... that shouldn't be a problem right?
[12:09] <Cryptid> nalioth, How do i reduce the size of the icons ????
[12:10] <stein> Anak1n: no, that's not it. I want to see which wireless networks are in range
[12:10] <nalioth> Cryptid: i have no idea.
[12:10] <BooZee> if I installed kubuntu desktop using "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", how do I uninstall it?
[12:10] <Delvien2001> Quick question all, How do you make a conf file writeable, instead of read only
[12:10] <nalioth> stein: open a terminal and type "iwlist"
[12:10] <nalioth> Delvien2001: "man chmod"
[12:10] <kemik> BooZee:  apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[12:10] <BooZee> 10x
[12:10] <kemik> BooZee:  and maybe add --purge or something
[12:11] <BooZee> which is.. ?
[12:11] <kemik> man apt-get
[12:11] <Cryptid> nalioth, these huge icons are covering my whole desktop...... Bha sooo irritating
[12:11] <ColonelKernel> I have some questions about the ubuntu boot process - ive noticed that the first part of the boot, right where it says starting ubuntu, it loads all the available ide controller modules
[12:11] <DjKritical> Delgul, I think... sudo chmod +w filename
[12:11] <QMario> Thank God!!! Nalioth, thank you!!! It works. :) Yay.
[12:11] <ColonelKernel> is this something I can look at in a script somewhere?
[12:12] <Anak1n> stein: then U need wireless monitor i don't know is that in ubuntu
[12:12] <kemik> nalioth == god :)
[12:12] <nalioth> kemik: not so.
[12:12] <QMario> Kemik, huh? I didn't say that.
[12:13] <QMario> Nor did I imply that.
[12:13] <Delvien2001> im not sure i understand that nalioth, im a linux noob, is there a certain command im supposed to put in to edit ?
[12:13] <TiMiDo> !libdvdcss2
[12:13] <ubotu> No idea, TiMiDo
[12:13] <QMario> It's October 1. When does Breezy come out?
[12:14] <QMario> !DVD
[12:14] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras
[12:14] <kemik> QMario:  13th
[12:14] <boxerboy29> 13th
[12:14] <QMario> !hoary-extras
[12:14] <ubotu> hoary-extras is, like, totally, see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[12:14] <sj_> I have a little problem, I had linux installed on /dev/hda1, but I had to move that partition to /dev/hda3, I have updated grub and fstab, but when booting, vfs still checks hda1 for ext3, which is obviously not what I want it to do, anyway I can get it to point to hda3?
[12:14] <QMario> There you go, TiMiDo. :)
[12:14] <ColonelKernel> I recompiled my kernel and took out all the modules that werent pertinent to my system and it sure runs a hell of a lot faster now
[12:14] <TiMiDo> thnx
[12:14] <ColonelKernel> faster than gentoo did
[12:14] <kemik> sj_:  edit /etc/fstab
[12:14] <jhiver> Hey guys
[12:14] <stein> nalioth: 10x , I tried "iwlist scan" before, but it did not work at first. Now it finds the net. Rock on !
[12:15] <jhiver> when I print using lpr it hangs forever
[12:15] <sj_> kemik: I did, my fstab now has / as /dev/hda3 and the swap as /dev/hda5
[12:15] <jhiver> but CUPS printing seems to work fine...
[12:15] <QMario> !Botsnack
[12:15] <ubotu> thanks qmario :)
[12:15] <jhiver> ne ideas?
[12:15] <kemik> sj_:  oh, you even said so in the question :) i shouldnt be here when hungover :|
[12:15] <BooZee> what does "purge" means? I'm not an english speeker..
[12:15] <Delvien2001> Not sure i understood the item Nat gave me to read, How do you make a conf file writeable, instead of read only
[12:15] <sj_> hehe, I know that feeling :(
[12:16] <TiMiDo> i want to buy a dvd drive so badly
[12:16] <kemik> BooZee:  man apt-get and it'll explain it
[12:16] <QMario> Nalioth, is there a way I can make the mplayer plugin work with the original Firefox(Non-Ubuntu version)?
[12:16] <kemik> "man apt-get"
[12:16] <BooZee> i just did it
[12:16] <nalioth> BooZee: to completely remove something
[12:16] <BooZee> it didn't helped me understand
[12:16] <sj_> I don't really want to make hda3 hda1 again, that will take alot of time.
[12:16] <jhiver> BooZee, it --purge also removes the config files
[12:16] <BooZee> it gave two lines of unexplained text
[12:16] <BooZee> o.k.
[12:16] <sj_> Anyone?
[12:16] <BooZee> thank you naliuth and jhiver
[12:17] <jhiver> no worries
[12:17] <kemik> BooZee:  it's not necessary to use --purge .. but if you're not gonna reinstall kubuntu you might aswell
[12:17] <jhiver> now if somebody  could tell me why my lpr doesn't work :)
[12:17] <BooZee> and after I did "sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop --purge" I should do anything else? cuz it was realy quick..
[12:17] <nalioth> kemik: removing "kubuntu-desktop" doestn remove any packages
[12:18] <jhiver> BooZee, removing this package will remove a hell of a lot of stuff!
[12:18] <nalioth> jhiver: not so. it just removes the metapkg
[12:18] <kemik> nalioth:  ah i had it that it'd remove all the stuff associated ....
[12:18] <jhiver> What sucks is that ubuntu-desktop depends on evolution, which sucks big time
[12:19] <Weiss> packages depend on kubuntu-desktop, but kubuntu-desktop doesn't depend on the packages
[12:19] <jhiver> means you can't remove evolution without destroying the entire desktop :(
[12:19] <Weiss> err.. other way round, sorry
[12:19] <nalioth> jhiver: yes you can remove evolution
[12:19] <jhiver> how:
[12:19] <jhiver> ?
[12:19] <jhiver> it says it will remove:
[12:19] <boxerboy29> i though evolution was just a mail program
[12:19] <jhiver>   evolution evolution-exchange evolution-plugins ubuntu-desktop
[12:20] <nalioth> jhiver: remove it. your desktop will still be there
[12:20] <jhiver> well I'll give it a try but it wasn't the case with hoary
[12:21] <kemik> BooZee:  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-22652.html
[12:22] <kataklysm-> whats something for gnutella network that actually works that uses the same servers as limewire does?
[12:22] <kataklysm-> i have tried xmule and amule, and in my opinion they arent worth a sh*t
[12:22] <nalioth> kataklysm-: gtk-gnutella
[12:23] <kataklysm-> nalioth: does it work pretty good?
[12:23] <nalioth> kataklysm-: as good as limewire (or better, cuz it has no java overhead)
[12:23] <kataklysm-> seems like i tried it and it had  adinky config
[12:23] <jhiver> kataklysm-, limewire runs fine on Linux
[12:23] <stein> airsnort need wlanctl-ng , any idea (before I find it myself) =
[12:23] <stein> ?
[12:24] <kataklysm-> jhiver: i was wanting the pro features though
[12:24] <BurnerR> hi
[12:24] <kataklysm-> i was thinking about compiling the pro source code they offer at limewire.org
[12:24] <jhiver> kataklysm-, then maybe you should by the pro version :)
[12:24] <kataklysm-> jhiver: pay for a gnutella client?
[12:24] <kataklysm-> on linux?
[12:24] <kataklysm-> lol
[12:24] <kataklysm-> u all would give me up the road for that
[12:25] <nalioth> i advise staying away from java apps, but that is my personal opinion
[12:25] <stein> nalioth: java rules ! (as a language)
[12:25] <kataklysm-> i had limewire pro (bootlegged)) it found all kinds of sources, and the speeds were great..  but i cant find a gnutella client that actually will get those kind of speeds
[12:26] <kemik> java is easy to code
[12:26] <QMario> Kemik, not in Linux.
[12:26] <kataklysm-> it really dont make sense to me how limewire pro lets me download at 200+k /sec
[12:26] <kataklysm-> and others only let me go for say 45
[12:26] <kemik> QMario:  huh ?
[12:27] <QMario> Kemik, I know. My Java Compiler can't even find the CLASSPATH even though I had set it.
[12:27] <kemik> QMario:  well, then *you* have done something wrong
[12:27] <QMario> Hello Toma-!!! :)
[12:27] <stein> QMario: Huh ? it is same in all platform
[12:27] <kemik> QMario:  dont blame java for that
[12:27] <stein> s
[12:27] <lsuactiafner> after you do class path you should relogin the shell/console/terminal
[12:27] <Toma-> um. hi?
[12:27] <QMario> Stein, yes.
[12:27] <nalioth> kataklysm-: try gtk-gnutella
[12:28] <kataklysm-> nalioth i will give it a shot:D thanks
[12:28] <Lethargic17> i have a problem with my Network Adapter
[12:28] <nalioth> kataklysm-: if you dont like it, use what you do like
[12:28] <Lethargic17> can some1 help me?
[12:28] <Toma-> Lethargic17: ask.
[12:28] <nalioth> Lethargic17: ask the channel a question
[12:28] <QMario> Kemik, what about C++?
[12:28] <kemik> QMario:  c++ is nice aswell...
[12:28] <kataklysm-> im working on installing eclipse and all the java tools
[12:28] <nalioth> language discussions can go to #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[12:28] <kemik> QMario:  but java is even easier
[12:28] <kataklysm-> so im gonna attempt at a modification of the limewire source
[12:28] <kataklysm-> rename it all
[12:28] <kataklysm-> and i might just sell my own p2p client
[12:28] <kataklysm-> haha
[12:28] <Lethargic17> Ubuntu don't recognize my USR997902
[12:29] <kemik> Lethargic17:  a modem ?
[12:29] <Lethargic17> and i don't know how to install the drivers
[12:29] <Lethargic17> no a network adapter
[12:29] <QMario> Kemik, so where can I tell java where my Java Archives are?
[12:29] <QMario> s/can/do
[12:29] <kataklysm-> i never did get an answer on why serpentine claims to support mp3 in the description of the package, yet it doesnt support them oncce your trying to use it
[12:29] <kemik> QMario:  -cp "path/to/.jar" if that's what you mean
[12:30] <Toma-> i think he watchs an export value
[12:30] <Toma-> *wants
[12:30] <Toma-> export JAVA=/path/to/happiness
[12:30] <Toma-> and CLASSPATH=
[12:31] <_willcooke_> Lethargic17, http://archives.free.net.ph/message/20050912.120011.d6ea8fa1.en.html
[12:31] <Lethargic17> in the readme i can see that i must first unpack a tarball but it doesn't work :s
[12:32] <Lethargic17> how i must use this patch?
[12:33] <_willcooke_> Lethargic17, Actually, don't bother with that patch, far to complicated!  Either a) Wait for Breezy where no doubt it will work, or... b) we have a go at compiling and installing the USR linux drivers..  (of course, c) upgrade to breezy now and see what happens)
[12:34] <ColonelKernel> breezy daily build looks good to me
[12:34] <QMario> Kemik and Toma-. Should I then restart the terminal?
[12:36] <Toma-> no
[12:36] <Lethargic17> can't i just use the drivers on the cd of US Robotics?
[12:36] <boxerboy29> ive had very few breezy problems but it runs different on all pcs
[12:36] <ColonelKernel> is there any way I can launch an app and tell it which CPU to run on?
[12:37] <nalioth> ColonelKernel: why would you want to?
[12:38] <_willcooke_> Lethargic17, Yeah, have a go.  You'll need the "build-essential" and "unzip" packages installed.  Then "wget http://www.usr.com/support/7902/7902-files/linux.exe", then unzip it, then cd in to the dir and "make clean modules"
[12:38] <ColonelKernel> nalioth, Im compiling my kernel, and make-kpkg doesnt use cpu1 so I figured i'd play some enemy territory in the meanwhile - its better than watching boogie nights for the 1000th time
[12:38] <ColonelKernel> I sure do like heather grahams naked body though
[12:38] <nalioth> ColonelKernel: you are not using a smp kernel now?
[12:38] <_willcooke_> mmmmmm. Heather Graham
[12:39] <ColonelKernel> nalioth, I AM using an smp kernel now
[12:39] <TiMiDo> is it complicated it to name my Kernel?
[12:39] <nalioth> ColonelKernel: then go ahead with your game
[12:39] <ColonelKernel> Linux p4ht 2.6.14-rc3 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Oct 1 02:13:10 PDT 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[12:39] <ColonelKernel> nalioth, itll run on cpu1 automatically?
[12:39] <nalioth> Linux dualg5 2.6.10-5-power4-smp #1 SMP Fri Sep 23 14:28:10 UTC 2005 ppc GNU/Linux
[12:39] <TiMiDo> is it complicated it to name my Kernel?
[12:39] <_willcooke_> Does Linux SMP support processor affinity?
[12:39] <_willcooke_> Standard kernel
[12:39] <_willcooke_>     No and Yes. There is no way to force a process onto specific CPU's but the linux scheduler has a processor bias for each process, which tends to keep processes tied to a specific CPU.
[12:40] <nalioth> ColonelKernel: the smp kernel will load balance admirably
[12:40] <ColonelKernel> nalioth, thats tight
[12:40] <Lethargic17> willcooke_, what do you mean with "build-essential"?
[12:40] <TiMiDo> nalioth,  is it complicated it to rename you're kernel/
[12:40] <nalioth> TiMiDo: kernels dont have names
[12:40] <TiMiDo> what if u want to put one?
[12:41] <TiMiDo> 2.6.10-5-386 if i want to changed the name of it?
[12:41] <nalioth> TiMiDo: use masking tape and a magic marker
[12:41] <ColonelKernel> I think he's just talking about changing the makefile
[12:41] <_willcooke_> Lethargic17, is a package you need to install with synaptic or apt-get so you can compile the driver
[12:41] <QMario> Thank GOD!!! It works this time. Although TurtleGraphics is having a problem, no need to worry. Thank you Toma- and kemik! :)
[12:41] <TiMiDo> interesting
[12:41] <kemik> nalioth:  is there a way to set global paths that affed *all users* ?
[12:41] <kemik> *affect
[12:41] <nalioth> TiMiDo: i'm sorry if i dont understand your question
[12:41] <arwate> I've something odd: The eclipse packages that I downloaded from eclipse.org don't run on breezy. The splash screen just stays on forever. This is a behaviour as I was used to with blackdown jdk, and possibly gcj. But I built the newest sun jdk with make-jpkg and it is active (java -version) and I still have this behaviour. Any ideas? (note that I need specific eclipse versions, so the one in breezy won't satisfy me)
[12:41] <ColonelKernel> TiMiDo, change it in the makefile and dont change the source dir name after you compile/install the kernel
[12:41] <kemik> QMario:  have fun :)
[12:41] <TiMiDo> like when i want to do uname -r to put a name on it
[12:41] <nalioth> kemik: yes. "locate bashrc"
[12:41] <TiMiDo> can i build it from source?
[12:42] <nalioth> TiMiDo: you can build almost anything you see on your box from source
[12:42] <ColonelKernel> TiMiDo, from the sound of it thats probably a VERY bad idea for you -
[12:42] <ColonelKernel> at least right now
[12:42] <TiMiDo> oh is it
[12:42] <nalioth> TiMiDo: but renaming a kernel will stop your box from working
[12:42] <TiMiDo> why>
[12:42] <HappyFool> kemik: for setting PATH for graphical logins with gdm see /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf
[12:42] <kemik> nalioth:  so it's the /etc/bash.bashrc arghghgh.. i been hunting for /etc/.bashrc ...
[12:43] <Toma-> QMario: np.
[12:43] <kemik> HappyFool:  ok. thx
[12:43] <kemik> and thx nalioth aswell ;)
[12:44] <nalioth> kemik: np
[12:46] <netmonk> Can someone pls, help me! What package I need to reinstall in order to have the option to hybernate in the end session menu?
[12:47] <kemik> netmonk:  hibernate perhaps.... i dunno tho
[12:47] <deFrysk> netmonk, try ubuntu-desktop
[12:48] <sn0n> i dont believe i like irc via opera
[12:48] <sn0n> ll
[12:48] <sn0n> lol
[12:48] <deFrysk> netmonk do u use gdm in kde or something ?
[12:48] <boxerboy29> opera has a plug in for irc??????
[12:49] <nalioth> boxerboy29: the new opera has irc built in
[12:49] <sn0n> yeah
[12:49] <sn0n> lol
[12:49] <sn0n> its built in
[12:49] <boxerboy29> opera 8.5?
[12:49] <sn0n> its kinda 'nifty'
[12:49] <boxerboy29> :(
[12:49] <sn0n> but useless?
[12:49] <deFrysk> my opera crashes whenever there is java on a site
[12:49] <sn0n> Tools > Mail and Chat accounts
[12:50] <sn0n> deFrysk: Its better then Firefox crashing anytime there is a flash or mplayer object
[12:50] <sn0n> ;-)
[12:50] <boxerboy29> things dont crash for me they just never start
[12:50] <sn0n> lol
[12:51] <netmonk> deFrysk, i use breezy, gnome, i guess the settings have stayed like that from warty because on the other computer i clean installed hoary and it has this option
[12:51] <sn0n> i'm gonna give tinysoft a whirl, anyone tried it?
[12:51] <boxerboy29> that problem happens in sarge tho not breezy so pretend i never said it
[12:51] <sn0n> tinysofa**
[12:52] <deFrysk> netmonk, did you keep the settings of warty in gdm ?
[12:52] <netmonk> probably...
[12:52] <deFrysk> netmonk, thats where you went wrong ;)
[12:52] <QMario> Kemik, is there a reason why Java throws this error? "Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: TurtleGraphics/StandardPen"
[12:52] <netmonk> deFrysk, how can i fix that?
[12:52] <QMario> ?
[12:52] <deFrysk> netmonk, reinstall gdm with the present (breezy) setting
[12:53] <QMario> Kemik, I was able to draw the image using NetBeans with the same package.
[12:53] <netmonk> ok, thank you very much defr
[12:53] <netmonk> ok, thank you very much deFrysk
[12:53] <Lethargic17> how can i reach my floppy station?
[12:53] <deFrysk> netmonk, good luck
[12:54] <deFrysk> Lethargic17, first insters a floppy
[12:54] <[Wiebel] > Hi
[12:54] <deFrysk> insert
[12:54] <[Wiebel] > is there a rss feed for the ubuntu forums?
[12:54] <Lethargic17> that i have allready done :p
[12:54] <deFrysk> then mount /mnt/floppy
[12:55] <deFrysk> there is also an applet to mount other stations for your panel (at least in breezy there is)
[12:55] <QMario> Kemik, it compiles with no errors, but running is a different story.
[12:56] <Gorlist> Morning,
[12:56] <QMario> Helllo Ofe!!! :)
[12:56] <Gorlist> just trying to compile Wine, using this tutorial - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29996&highlight=Installing+Wine
[12:56] <Lethargic17> he can't find "/mnt/floppy" :s
[12:56] <Gorlist> When I try to run the compile command it comes up with - WINE Installer v0.75
[12:56] <Gorlist> The source directory is not writable. You probably extracted the sources as root.
[12:56] <Gorlist> You should remove the source tree and extract it again as a normal user.
[12:57] <HappyFool> try 'mount /media/floppy' instead
[12:57] <Gorlist> what does this mean?
[12:57] <deFrysk> mount /media/floppy
[12:57] <Ofe> good morning. Could someone tell me how to get a player that plays flash (.swf)-files? :)
[12:57] <deFrysk> sorry
[12:57] <QMario> Gorlist, you know that you could always download wine via Synaptic.
[12:57] <deFrysk> silly floppies ;p
[12:57] <spiral> hmmm, I can't find it... when should be the official release of breezy ?
[12:57] <boxerboy29> ofe: you mean like flashplayer for mozilla?
[12:58] <Gorlist> Qmario: ive done this before, but can't get a certain program running which I know is supported,
[12:58] <HappyFool> Gorlist: probably what it says; did you extract the tarball as root? (and yes, try Wine from synaptic)
[12:58] <HappyFool> spiral: October 13, i believe
[12:58] <ColonelKernel> nalioth - wow!!
[12:58] <Ofe> Umm.. I think that would do too boxerboy29. just want to play a file my friend sent me. :)
[12:58] <ColonelKernel> that worked well
[12:58] <Gorlist> right, if I go through synaptic I need to download winetools?
[12:58] <Lethargic17> i must give the filesystem...
[12:59] <boxerboy29> ofe: there should be flashplayer in mozilla plug ins
[12:59] <QMario> Hello spayne!!! :)
[12:59] <spayne> hi
[12:59] <spayne> !
[12:59] <Ofe> I tried using synaptic package manager with the searchword "flash" and downloaded some GPL-standalone flashplayer (i think) but I can't find it anywhere.
[12:59] <ubotu> spayne: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[12:59] <spayne> QMario: why !!!?
[01:00] <QMario> Spayne, it just means that I am happy.
[01:00] <QMario> I am not shouting at you.
[01:00] <QMario> It expresses enthusiasm. ;)
[01:00] <Ofe> hmm.. I'll try to install the mozilla-plugin. never done that under Ubuntu before so I think you'll be hearing from me again. ;)
[01:01] <boxerboy29> ofe: if you search the word flash than mozilla flashplayer is there in (breezy)
[01:01] <QMario> Ofe, Synaptic.
[01:01] <Ofe> I have hoardy hedgehog release.
[01:06] <Gorlist> Is it best to use Winetools for setup etc?
[01:07] <QMario> Has anyone here used Glade before?
[01:08] <HappyFool> Gorlist: does the wiki not have any info on wine?
[01:08] <majnoon> how close is full ubuntu too regular debian ??
[01:09] <QMario> !Glade
[01:09] <ubotu> No idea, QMario
[01:09] <QMario> !GTK
[01:09] <ubotu> QMario: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[01:09] <QMario> !Programming
[01:09] <ubotu> QMario: Wish i knew
[01:09] <QMario> !C++
[01:09] <rabbit78> hiyo
[01:10] <rabbit78> ~1 week ago the usplash stopped working, is this normal?
[01:10] <nalioth> QMario: perhaps you could open up ubotus brain and see what he has inside?
[01:10] <QMario> Nalioth, how?
[01:10] <nalioth> QMario: don't blink
[01:10] <QMario> Okay.
[01:10] <Gorlist> HappyFool: wiki says this - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToRunDVDShrinkWithWine?highlight=%28wine%29
[01:11] <Ofe> whoa. this is going to take a while. I got carried away and took some extra plugins to mozilla too. now I have to download 20.8mb with a 0.8kbps -speed connection. o.O
[01:11] <nalioth> QMario: get your msg from mr ubotu?
[01:11] <QMario> Yes.
[01:13] <mwright1night> is breezy on target?
[01:13] <dreameen> hey folks
[01:13] <HappyFool> Gorlist: that page seems to recommend 'winetools' for setting up wine; however, I am not at all experienced with using wine. Try it and see
[01:13] <mwright1night> will oo2 and Firefox 1.5 be in breezy/
[01:14] <Gorlist> HappyFool: at the moment is not liking the repostiry :(
[01:14] <dreameen> why is firefox package broken???
[01:14] <HappyFool> mwright1night: the feature freeze for breezy was a while back, so i doubt either will be included (i may be wrong)
[01:14] <dreameen> it wont load
[01:15] <kataklysm-> i cant get this eclipse package to remove from my computer
[01:15] <kataklysm-> i have tried everyhing
[01:15] <Gorlist> HappyFool: they recommend using wine cvs and compiling your own as it appears to work better - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29996&highlight=wine+cvs
[01:15] <kataklysm-> and i dont know whats holding it up
[01:15] <kataklysm-> can someone help me if i post the output i get?
[01:15] <Gorlist> the only problem is ive installed it from root terminal instead of user
[01:16] <BooZee> would it be good to install breezy now, and do dist-upgrade on oct 13th ?
[01:16] <HappyFool> Gorlist: then redo it as a normal user
[01:16] <Gorlist> HappyFool: I already am :)
[01:16] <kataklysm-> dpkg: error processing eclipse-platform (--remove):
[01:16] <kataklysm->  subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 127
[01:16] <kataklysm-> Errors were encountered while processing:
[01:16] <kataklysm->  eclipse-platform
[01:16] <DocTomoe> I need assistance in fixing my soundcard configuration. It does play sound, but only if I manually change /devdsp permissons to
[01:16] <dreameen> and when im trying to update im getting the following message: Errors were encountered while processing:
[01:17] <dreameen>  /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb
[01:17] <dreameen>  /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox-gnome-support_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.debE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[01:17] <nalioth> dreameen: are you using backports?
[01:17] <DocTomoe> +rw ...
[01:17] <dreameen> yeh
[01:17] <kataklysm-> how can i force apt-get remove to remove a package
[01:18] <kataklysm-> ??
[01:18] <DocTomoe> kataklysm: man dpkg ... this is not apt-gets job ;)
[01:18] <nalioth> dreameen: disable backports, run "apt-get -f install"
[01:18] <BooZee> would it be good to install breezy now, and do dist-upgrade on oct 13th ?
[01:18] <dreameen> is it a bad idea to use backports?
[01:19] <nalioth> dreameen: yes
[01:19] <kataklysm-> dpkg does the same thing
[01:19] <nalioth> dreameen: enable them only for a specific package and then disable them
[01:19] <kataklysm-> its some eclipse package giving me the problem
[01:19] <HappyFool> BooZee: if you install breezy, you won't need to dist-upgrade
[01:19] <kataklysm-> i want to force it to remove all eclipse*
[01:19] <kataklysm-> what command should i issue
[01:19] <dreameen> nalioth, i see, thanks for help
[01:19] <BooZee> HappyFool: then update and upfrade?
[01:19] <BooZee> upgrade
[01:20] <HappyFool> BooZee: that should work; whether it's a good idea i can't say. I plan to download the install ISO and upgrade from that
[01:20] <BooZee> but you plan on doing it before the 13th of oct, right? and when oct 13th will come, you'll update. right?
[01:21] <HappyFool> no, i will download the 'final' install CD (available oct 13, presumably)
[01:21] <dreameen> how do you temporarily disable a repo??
[01:21] <kataklysm-> im getting this error on everything
[01:21] <kataklysm-> someone help
[01:21] <BooZee> oh.
[01:21] <kataklysm-> emacs21: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[01:21] <kataklysm-> E: cedet-common: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[01:21] <kataklysm-> E: eieio: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[01:21] <kataklysm-> E: speedbar: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[01:21] <DocTomoe> BooZee: Expect problems with your video drivers (had those 5-6 days ago when upgrading my laptop. Removed anything and reinstalled ... works now just fine)
[01:22] <gilligan_> hi
[01:22] <nalioth> kataklysm-: do not paste in here please use #flood or a pastebin
[01:22] <dreameen> where was the file controlling repos in ubuntu*me wonders*
[01:22] <gilligan_> does anyone know how I can add new fonts that I downloaded somewhere to the system ?
[01:23] <HappyFool> dreameen: /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:23] <HappyFool> dreameen: you should be able to use synaptic to enable/disable repositories too
[01:23] <nalioth> ubuntulog: tell dreameen about repos
[01:23] <nalioth> gilligan_: for your own use, put them in ~/.fonts
[01:24] <nalioth> ubotu: tell dreameen about repos
[01:24] <dreameen> i prefer vim:)
[01:24] <HappyFool> !fonts
[01:24] <ubotu> fonts is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[01:24] <ararat> hi
[01:24] <nalioth> hi
[01:24] <ararat> i habe some problems with mypppoe connection in ubuntu
[01:25] <Gorlist> Ive been looking through the guides for Ubuntu, still can't find anything in regards to removing source tree/ turning a root to user permissions
[01:25] <BooZee> how can I make keyboard shortcuts for changing between languages?
[01:25] <gilligan_> HappyFool, nalioth : thanks
[01:25] <BooZee> or maybe there are already shortcuts for it?
[01:26] <dreameen> ubotu: ping
[01:26] <ubotu> Keep your fingers to yourself, dreameen.
[01:26] <HappyFool> Gorlist: as root (or using sudo) you can use the chown command to change ownership of a directory (or directory tree)
[01:26] <Gorlist> HappyFool: right thanks :)
[01:26] <HiddenWolf> DocTomoe, what kind of problems?
[01:26] <HiddenWolf> gilligan_,  system > preferences > font
[01:26] <ararat> the fact is my "resolv.conf"  file is always changed (by some devil?) to 192.168.1.1  DNS which is certainly incorrect
[01:26] <fredforfaen> i have just installed a new kernel with apt.....on my current kernel i use nvidia , but when i boot the new kernel X wont start , probably cus of the nvidiadriver....how do i correct this?
[01:27] <[LethAL] > fredforfaen, edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change "nvidia" under the driver section to "nv"
[01:28] <fredforfaen> yeah [LethAL]  , but i want 3d to work in my new kernel...
[01:28] <ararat> is there any possibility to "lock" my resolv.conf not to allow it to be cghanged
[01:28] <fredforfaen> how do i install nvidia when i aldeady har it installed on this kernel
[01:28] <ararat> sorry for my english, i'm from russia+)
[01:28] <det> What is newer, preview release or Colony 5?
[01:28] <[LethAL] > fredforfaen, Just try that and see if it works... if it doesn't, it's not a problem with the driver
[01:29] <[LethAL] > !tell ararat about chmod
[01:29] <BooZee> Help needed - How can I change the language I want to use? (Alt+Shift in Windows) ??
[01:29] <bimberi> ararat: "sudo chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf" (sets it immutable, -i will undo)
[01:30] <fredforfaen> [LethAL]  it probably is a driver prob.....but if you think it nessesary to do that ill do it
[01:30] <ararat> fredforfaen, i suppose, ypu need to reinstall the driver, because when being installed, a "nvidia.ko" module have been copmpiled with kenel headfiles of the previous kernel
[01:30] <[LethAL] > fredforfaen, Just so we can check if that is causing it... if not it's a bad problem
[01:31] <fredforfaen> ok ill try..
[01:34] <noph> why not a i686 release among the others?
[01:35] <nalioth> noph: it is there
[01:36] <fredforfaen> it worked , now i got x on my new kernel....now how do i go about reinstalling the nvidia driver?
[01:36] <noph> nalioth, where? i can only find i386 releases.
[01:36] <HappyFool> well, i think there are only i386, amd64 and ppc 'releases', but the i386 includes a i686 kernel (and maybe libc, i'm not sure)
[01:36] <nalioth> noph: open synaptic and search for 'kernel'
[01:37] <noph> yeah, i'm running the 686 kernel.
[01:37] <fredforfaen> anyone?
[01:37] <TiMiDo> yeah
[01:37] <nalioth> fredforfaen: ask useful questions please
[01:37] <noph> nalioth, ill check libc.
[01:38] <HappyFool> fredforfaen: the wiki has a howto
[01:38] <TiMiDo> mplayer sure looks nice
[01:38] <nalioth> ubotu: tell fredforfaen about nvidia
[01:38] <fredforfaen> thanx
[01:38] <fredforfaen> illtry that
[01:38] <[LethAL] > Could someone explain why glxgears is painfully slow with the nvidia driver and RenderAccel enabled?
[01:38] <Gorlist> hmmm, im typing in - sudo chown -R root.users to change ownership, but for some reason the folder won't shift from root to user?
[01:38] <Gorlist> sudo chown -R root.users /home/james/cvs
[01:39] <[LethAL] > Gorlist, I think it's luser then option... not sure
[01:39] <[LethAL] > !chown
[01:39] <ubotu> hmm... chown is a command used to change the owner of a file or folder, see `man chown` for details
[01:39] <HappyFool> Gorlist: try 'sudo chown -R gorlist.gorlist '
[01:39] <HappyFool> Gorlist: where 'gorlist' is your username
[01:39] <[LethAL] > HappyFool, it's james... wake up :P
[01:39] <Gorlist> :) so...
[01:39] <Gorlist> wait hmm
[01:40] <dreameen> firefox package is really not happy in ubuntu:(
[01:41] <dreameen> ive updated ff and it still wont load for  me
[01:41] <nalioth> dreameen: did you "apt-get -f install" after you disabled backports?
[01:41] <dreameen> yes i did
[01:42] <Gorlist> hmmm, still can't get it to work, must be typing soemthing in wrong
[01:42] <[LethAL] > Gorlist, who owns it? (ls -l)
[01:42] <nalioth> dreameen: try "apt-get -f install mozilla-firefox"
[01:42] <HappyFool> dreameen: run 'firefox' from the terminal, and if there are any messages there paste them to the pastebin
[01:42] <Gorlist> LethAL: Root owns it at the moment
[01:43] <bimberi> Gorlist: sudo chown -R james:james /home/james/cvs
[01:43] <[LethAL] > Gorlist, well... in that case... should be fine
[01:43] <JustinS> G'day all .. I'm not new to linux but I'm new to wifi with linux .. Does anyone know how well Ubuntu will handle ipw2200 wifi cards? (Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG) ..
[01:43] <Gorlist> bimberi: thanks!
[01:43] <werto> yo all ^__^
[01:43] <Gorlist> great, nows it changed, on with the wine compile
[01:43] <bimberi> Gorlist: yw :)
[01:43] <inc|freaky> hi werto ^^
[01:44] <werto> hi inc|freaky  ^__^
[01:44] <dreameen> nalioth, bingo! apt-get didnt update firefox for some reason
[01:44] <werto> i'm in trouble
[01:45] <dreameen> grrrr
[01:45] <fredforfaen> I followed the wiki on how to install nvidiadrivers , but no luck ....not even xorg.conf was changed to nvidia , so i did it and now i dont got x in my new kernel again....any odeas?
[01:46] <fredforfaen> ideas*
[01:46] <bimberi> dreameen: have you seen this? - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Firefox_1%2e0%2e7_issues_on_Hoary
[01:46] <werto> yesterday i installed ubuntu breezy 32 bit on my amd 64 and when i play a mp3 it's very speeeed! _
[01:46] <[Wiebel] > hmz
[01:46] <werto> what should i do?
[01:46] <[Wiebel] > hotswap seems to be broken
[01:46] <dreameen> lol icant even paste to pastebin coz ff wont load
[01:46] <[Wiebel] > that is
[01:46] <[LethAL] > fredforfaen, manually edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change "nv" to "nvidia"
[01:46] <[Wiebel] > i can't hotswap m'n dvd player anymore
[01:46] <fredforfaen> [LethAL]  i did that and it didnt work , X wouldnt start
[01:46] <[LethAL] > [Wiebel] , you need something special to hotswap IDE tdevices, can't remember what
[01:46] <dreameen> bimberi, mind you..i have no browser atm:|
[01:47] <Sorcerer> hi
[01:47] <Sorcerer> Can you help me anyone?
[01:47] <[LethAL] > !helpme
[01:47] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[01:47] <pluffsy>  /j #gaim
[01:48] <dreameen> Unpacking replacement mozilla-firefox ...
[01:48] <dreameen> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb (--unpack):
[01:48] <dreameen>  trying to overwrite `/var/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions.d/00classic', which is also in package firefox
[01:48] <dreameen> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[01:48] <dreameen> Errors were encountered while processing:
[01:48] <dreameen>  /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.debE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[01:48] <mbpillai> problem  some ps2 optical mouse not working
[01:48] <nalioth> dreameen: dont paste in here
[01:48] <dreameen> sorry for that
[01:48] <bimberi> dreameen: you could install epiphany then ... until ff is fixed
[01:48] <nalioth> dreameen: use #flood or a pastebin
[01:48] <nalioth> dreameen: that is easily fixed
[01:48] <Sorcerer> i cant to install the java plugin into the firefox:S
[01:49] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Sorcerer about javadeb
[01:49] <[Wiebel] > [LethAL] : like an app?
[01:49] <nalioth> dreameen: join #kubuntu-offtopic and i'll help you with your firefox
[01:49] <fredforfaen> ive done what you said bit nvidia doesent work on my new kernel...i followed the wiki , i manually edited xorg.con to nvidia , but still no luck , can anybody help me install nvidia on my new kernel?
[01:50] <[LethAL] > fredforfaen, which kernel?
[01:50] <kataklysm-> does anyone here know why py/soulseek runs fine for a while, then eats up all my cpu?  it eats it up completely even when i have no inbount / outbound transfers after about 20 minutes of inactivity.. what could i do to fix this?
[01:50] <fredforfaen> my current kernel is  2.6.12-9-k7 and i have installed  2.6.12-9-686...the first one works with nvidia
[01:51] <fredforfaen> [LethAL]  <----
[01:51] <[LethAL] > fredforfaen, I'm on the 386 version of that and glxgears is awfully slow...
[01:51] <mbpillai> i am havin trouble installing ps2 optical mouse.. can anyone help??
[01:52] <[LethAL] > Turn PC off, plug it in, turn it back on again?
[01:52] <fredforfaen> [LethAL]  ok ....but do you know how i can reinstall the nvidiadrivers
[01:52] <mbpillai> i am havin trouble installing ps2 optical mouse.. can anyone help??
[01:52] <[LethAL] > fredforfaen, sudo aptitude purge nvidia-glx
[01:52] <k0p> nvdia tnt2 model 64 at breezy, someone have problems?
[01:53] <Chipzz> usplash hasn't been working for a few days here - I'm getting the following message:
[01:53] <Chipzz> cpio: ./usr/lib/usplash/usplash-artwork.so: No such file or directory
[01:53] <Chipzz> anyone know what may be the problem?
[01:53] <deFrysk> k0p, afaIk the latest nvidia drivers no longer support tose cards
[01:53] <mr_owen> hi
[01:53] <deFrysk> those*
[01:53] <fredforfaen> sudo aptitude purge nvidia-glx doesent do anything
[01:53] <fredforfaen> [LethAL]  <----
[01:53] <mr_owen> i want to install kubuntu on my laptop but the display get's all fucked up after it boots
[01:53] <k0p> hmm
[01:53] <deFrysk> sudo apt-get remove --purg nvidia-glx
[01:54] <nalioth> mr_owen: watch your tongue please, such language doesnt help
[01:54] <deFrysk> k0p, the nv drivers work fine tho
[01:54] <mr_owen> sorry
[01:54] <deFrysk> k0p, but no acceleration
[01:54] <mr_owen> :)
[01:54] <k0p> :(
[01:54] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mr_owen about fixres
[01:54] <k0p> I want acceleration
[01:54] <deFrysk> sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-glx
[01:54] <deFrysk> sorry
[01:54] <mr_owen> ?
[01:55] <fredforfaen> thanx ill try
[01:55] <k0p> It possible have accelaration?
[01:55] <deFrysk> k0p, manally install an older driver then (not sure howto tho
[01:55] <[LethAL] > k0p, nvidia website
[01:55] <k0p> hmmm, I will try
[01:55] <nalioth> mr_owen: ubotu has shown you love. look for it
[01:55] <mr_owen> i see
[01:55] <mr_owen> sorry
[01:55] <mr_owen> :)
[01:55] <Chipzz> [LethAL] : no
[01:55] <[LethAL] > Chipzz, ?
[01:55] <Chipzz> there are actually *packages* that do support these older cards
[01:56] <[LethAL] > AH
[01:56] <Chipzz> [LethAL] : NEVER encourage users to install from source
[01:56] <Chipzz> NEVER EVER
[01:56] <[LethAL] > I thought the nvidia drivers were binary...
[01:56] <mr_owen> but i can't install
[01:56] <mr_owen> because the display is all wrong
[01:56] <mr_owen> i can get the install cd to boot
[01:56] <[LethAL] > I have, however, never used then
[01:56] <k0p> hmmm
[01:56] <Chipzz> k0p: try apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy
[01:56] <k0p> I will try! :D
[01:56] <mr_owen> then it boots, and i should be in a sort of choice menu, but the display is al messed up so i can't see what i should choose
[01:57] <k0p> By the way, i download the nvidia-drivers from oficial site
[01:57] <Chipzz> you'll also have to install the corresponding kernel package
[01:57] <Chipzz> k0p: don't do that
[01:57] <Chipzz> k0p: it will screw up your system
[01:58] <k0p> Chipzz, and old driver?
[01:58] <fredforfaen> !nvidia
[01:58] <ubotu> somebody said nvidia was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[01:59] <deFrysk> fredforfaen, thatone does not work , he has an old type nvidia card
[02:00] <k0p> fsck :\
[02:01] <Chipzz> k0p: lemme check
[02:02] <k0p> well.. restart X
[02:02] <Chipzz> k0p: try installing one of the following packages:
[02:02] <Chipzz> root@Vertex:~ # apt-cache search legacy | grep legacy
[02:02] <Chipzz> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-9-386-nvidia-legacy - Non-free Linux 2.6.12 NVIDIA legacy module on 386
[02:02] <Chipzz> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-9-686-nvidia-legacy - Non-free Linux 2.6.12 modules on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV
[02:02] <Chipzz> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-9-686-smp-nvidia-legacy - Non-free Linux 2.6.12 modules on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV SMP
[02:02] <Chipzz> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-9-k7-nvidia-legacy - Non-free Linux 2.6.12 modules on AMD K7
[02:02] <Chipzz> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-9-k7-smp-nvidia-legacy - Non-free Linux 2.6.12 modules on AMD K7 SMP
[02:02] <Chipzz> whichever corresponds with your running kernel
[02:02] <k0p> yeap :)
[02:03] <deFrysk> Chipzz, thats cool
[02:03] <Chipzz> k0p: you may have to reboot
[02:03] <k0p> okay! I'm rebooting
[02:03] <k0p> it's installed :)
[02:03] <k0p> brb
[02:04] <Chipzz> deFrysk?
[02:04] <Chipzz> :)
[02:05] <slept> mr_owen, press F1 for help while booting there is an option for laptops I thing its vga and a number
[02:06] <frenkel> how can i enable sound preview in nautilus with breezy badger?
[02:07] <frenkel> i can play mp3's in totem with gstreamer and stuff...
[02:07] <k0p> It's work very fine!
[02:07] <k0p> tankes all :)
[02:07] <Chipzz> k0p: you're welcome :)
[02:07] <manuel_> la
[02:07] <manuel_> hola
[02:07] <manuel_> qt
[02:07] <BurgerMann> Where can I put things to be booted up?
[02:07] <mbpillai> any body know google char server name
[02:08] <k0p> Chipzz, :)
[02:08] <djwjlaumen> the boot up apps can be put in System > Preferences > Sessions i believe
[02:08] <BurgerMann> I read /etc/rd.c is for the purpose, that dir doesn't exist
[02:08] <fredforfaen> well i did as you said , and it just installed the nvidia driver on my kurrent working kernel not on my new 686 kernel...any ideas?
[02:09] <[LethAL] > BurgerMann, /etc/init.d instead
[02:09] <[LethAL] > d/*
[02:09] <BurgerMann> [LethAL] : thx
[02:09] <frenkel> how can i enable sound preview in nautilus?
[02:10] <djwjlaumen> I think you need the sox package frenkel but it's pretty buggy (breezy colony 5 here), it just doesn't work here
[02:10] <sktrdie> hello
[02:10] <TiMiDo> sktrdie, hello
[02:10] <fredforfaen> I uninstalled nvidia-glx , changed xorg to nv and rebooted into my new 686 kernel , followed the wiki on nvidia and it installs the driver on my old kernel...what to do ?
[02:10] <sktrdie> I've just upgraded to a new kernel
[02:10] <sktrdie> 2.6.13.2
[02:11] <sktrdie> works really fine
[02:11] <TiMiDo> ok
[02:11] <dreameen> nalioth: just to let you know...ive logged out from gnome, then logged in again and firefox works now...anyway thanks for your help
[02:11] <frenkel> djwjlaumen, i already have sox
[02:11] <sktrdie> but I need a module which on my old kernel I installed doing: apt-get install linux-wlan-ng
[02:11] <nalioth> dreameen: great!
[02:11] <TiMiDo> so what's wrong sktrdie ?
[02:11] <frenkel> mm, ill search around ab it more then
[02:12] <sktrdie> TiMiDo: if I do on this new kernel apt-get install linux-wlan-ng... it will do it, but the module is not installed
[02:12] <TiMiDo> sktrdie, do apt-cache search linux-wlan
[02:12] <sktrdie> TiMiDo: it actually tells me that it already exists
[02:13] <TiMiDo> interesting what do it comes out when u do apt-cache search package?
[02:13] <fredforfaen> can anyone help me pls?
[02:13] <sktrdie> TiMiDo: the package
[02:14] <TiMiDo> fredforfaen, ask
[02:14] <TiMiDo> do modprobe module
[02:14] <sktrdie> duh
[02:14] <sktrdie> of course
[02:14] <sktrdie> but its not there
[02:14] <TiMiDo> then not sure
[02:14] <fredforfaen> Im asking if anyone knows what i should do to get nidia to work on my new kernel.....I uninstalled nvidia-glx , changed xorg to nv and rebooted into my new 686 kernel , followed the wiki on nvidia and it installs the driver on my old kernel...what to do ?
[02:15] <fredforfaen> nvidia*
[02:15] <TiMiDo> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:16] <atripathi> Great......Finally succeded in setting correct Display
[02:16] <TiMiDo> fredforfaen, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:16] <atripathi> no buddy that crashed my X several times
[02:17] <atripathi> I manually edited /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:17] <fredforfaen> TiMiDo are you shure , wont that just update my xorg.conf....and i did that manually and it still didnt work
[02:17] <TiMiDo> fredforfaen, try doing that, man don't be so negative
[02:17] <atripathi> fred it adds several default things to xorg.conf without actual probing
[02:18] <fredforfaen> ok ill try
[02:18] <atripathi> was he also having problem with display?
[02:20] <BurgerMann> what's the command for removing users?
[02:20] <TiMiDo> BurgerMann, deluser user
[02:20] <RockyBurt> hm, is running ubuntu breezy the same as running debian unstable (atm) ? i mean i have hundreds of megabytes of updates waiting for me every morning
[02:21] <BurgerMann> TiMiDo: it says command not found
[02:21] <TiMiDo> as root?
[02:21] <TiMiDo> sudo deluser username
[02:22] <BurgerMann> TiMiDo: ah, thx :)
[02:22] <TiMiDo> np
[02:23] <os2mac> is there a way to save system configure to a thumb drive using the live CD?
[02:23] <TiMiDo> nope
[02:24] <l1nUx> Is there a way to update KDE 3.4 to 3.5 with apt-get ?
[02:25] <TiMiDo> apt-get install kde3.5 i think
[02:25] <TiMiDo> !tell l1nUx about backports
[02:25] <zero_> backports apt sources list???
[02:26] <HiddenWolf> they backported 3.5?
[02:26] <HiddenWolf> ew
[02:26] <wrabbit01> Can somebody tell me how to access sent files via irc?  Somebody has sent me a text document via x-chat and I don't know where to find it
[02:26] <TiMiDo> wrabbit01, should be on you'r home
[02:26] <ptlo> wrabbit01, look under ~/.xchat2/downloads
[02:26] <TiMiDo> or go to cd .xchat2
[02:27] <wrabbit01> not on home
[02:27] <TiMiDo> wrabbit01, u can changed the directory go to settings and then preferences and then Option Network it should be on you'r Second Option
[02:27] <wrabbit01> is there a way to access it without command line?
[02:28] <TiMiDo> wrabbit01,  cd ~/.xchat2/downloads
[02:28] <TiMiDo> wrabbit01,  nope gnome doesn't see the . files,
[02:28] <wrabbit01> alrighty... I'll try.. hold on a tic
[02:28] <TiMiDo> ok
[02:28] <jake> yes!
[02:28] <jake> you guys are the ones that are going to help me out arn't you?
[02:28] <jake> haha
[02:28] <ptlo> wrabbit01, type Ctrl-L, and enter the path in a dialog box that pops up
[02:28] <TiMiDo> jake, ask
[02:29] <ptlo> wrabbit01, (that's for opening the directory in nautilus window)
[02:29] <jake> ok i have the xvid thing on here so i can watch AVI files, so uh how do i install it?
[02:29] <wrabbit01> I've found the folder via command.  How do I open it? Sorry....
[02:29] <TiMiDo> wrabbit01, put konqueror
[02:29] <TiMiDo> and then go to .xchat2/downloads
[02:29] <TiMiDo> open up a konqueror or mozilla
[02:30] <TiMiDo> with konqueror u can move the files with mozilla u cannot
[02:30] <ptlo> or you can do: gnome-open ~/.xchat2/downloads/
[02:30] <ptlo> (if you're using gnome)
[02:31] <TiMiDo> true,
[02:32] <wrabbit01> Cheers... ptlo, that worked well
[02:32] <TiMiDo> (:
[02:33] <jake> i know its a tard question, but i cannot install this thing
[02:33] <yapyccky> hello to everyone
[02:33] <TiMiDo> what?
[02:33] <TiMiDo> hello yapyccky
[02:33] <yapyccky> i've a question for a chan
[02:33] <jake> xvid
[02:33] <jake> its a codec
[02:33] <TiMiDo> apt-cache search xvid
[02:33] <yapyccky> hello TiMiDo
[02:33] <jake> what?
[02:33] <yapyccky> im trying to use ethereal on my ubuntu
[02:34] <yapyccky> but i get a error Could not set capabilities: Operation not permitted
[02:34] <yapyccky> i dunnohow to solve
[02:34] <yapyccky> does anyone have a solution? or a idea how to solve it?
[02:34] <TiMiDo> do you have root access?
[02:34] <yapyccky> i do
[02:34] <kemik> jake:  w32codecs i think xvid is init
[02:34] <kemik> !restricted
[02:34] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[02:34] <ptlo> yapyccky, run it as root
[02:34] <ptlo> yapyccky: sudo ethereal
[02:34] <yapyccky> ptlo , already done
[02:35] <nalioth> ubotu: tell jake about w32codecs
[02:35] <yapyccky> doesnt work
[02:35] <TiMiDo> interesting
[02:35] <jake> kemik: i can get that from "add applications"?
[02:35] <nalioth> jake: follow the link ubotu sent you
[02:35] <kemik> jake:  follow the link
[02:35] <TiMiDo> yapyccky, a network protocol analyzer?
[02:36] <yapyccky> TiMiDo what do u mean?
[02:36] <yapyccky> sudo ethereal
[02:36] <yapyccky> Password:
[02:36] <yapyccky> Could not set capabilities: Operation not permitted
[02:36] <yapyccky> yapyccky@netnull:~$
[02:36] <nalioth> yapyccky: please read the /topic
[02:36] <[LethAL] > yapyccky, use the menu item
[02:36] <nalioth> yapyccky: no pasting in here. use #flood or a pastebin
[02:36] <TiMiDo> give me a second
[02:36] <Ofe> How could I make downloads to be faster under Ubuntu? I have 56k modem but the downloadspeed for example at synaptic is something like 400-800 bytes per second.
[02:37] <yapyccky> forgive me.. i didnt see...
[02:37] <TiMiDo> yapyccky, what error do u get?
[02:37] <jake> i'm sorry i'm stupid, but i don't see a link?
[02:37] <kemik> Ofe:  use the repositories that are best for you (often nearest geographic location)
[02:37] <TiMiDo> pasted it on flood the intired error
[02:37] <TiMiDo> plz
[02:37] <nalioth> jake: ubotu sent you a msg. read it for the link
[02:37] <kemik> jake:  see the pm from ubotu
[02:38] <kemik> jake:  or the wiki/restrictedformats page
[02:38] <kemik> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[02:38] <yapyccky> TiMiDo error say: "Could not set capabilities: Operation not permitted"
[02:38] <nalioth> kemik: is that page up to date?
[02:38] <TiMiDo> ok
[02:38] <Ofe> kemik: sorry, I don't understand what you mean. you mean I should download from the nearest location?
[02:38] <kemik> nalioth:  they've added debian repository to add w32codecs
[02:38] <TiMiDo> one second
[02:39] <nalioth> kemik: ouch!
[02:39] <nalioth> not a good precedent
[02:39] <kemik> Ofe:  yeah, that would most likely be the fastest
[02:39] <seby> can anyone recommend a pci wlan card with wpa2 support?
[02:39] <kemik> nalioth:  it tells you to remove it directly after w32 download
[02:39] <nalioth> kemik: ubotos factoid is easier for new users
[02:40] <ompaul> kemik, wget the file name and you don;t have to do it
[02:40] <kemik> yeah it's easy :)
[02:40] <Ofe> kemik: it's always max 0.8kbps. even when downloading from finland (where I'm from) with firefox. Is there some settings I should change with the modem?
[02:40] <TiMiDo> yapyccky, i'm looking at the error can u give me a second?
[02:41] <joh> Hey, I have a problem. Our server running ubuntu hoary crashed, and now several of the executables in /bin /sbin /usr/bin and /usr/sbin are now owned by unknown uids and gids. It is impossible to change their permissions as root (Operation not permitted). Any idea what this can be? Maybe the kernel (selinux?) blocks the operations?
[02:41] <yapyccky> TiMiDo , sure, thx alot for your help. Can query u?
[02:41] <kemik> Ofe:  hmm. i dunno.. so many years since i used a modem .... but if it's always 0.8 it seem to be a config error somewhere
[02:42] <kemik> joh:  not possible to chown either ?
[02:42] <joh> kemik: no
[02:42] <ompaul> maybe we should have a shell (or application) script that takes the http path to the .deb as an arguement, pulls it down and installs it using wget for single items
[02:42] <Ofe> kemik: very possible, I'm new to linux and I have to guess most of the options. :)
[02:42] <jake> ok now that i have this w32codecs thing what do i do to it?
[02:42] <joh> kemik: chown: changing ownership of `ls': Operation not permitted
[02:42] <TiMiDo> sure
[02:42] <kemik> ompaul:  only 2 lines, woudlnt be hard to "script" :)
[02:42] <joh> kemik: this is as root
[02:42] <TiMiDo> query me
[02:43] <nalioth> jake: open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg -i w32cod<tab>"
[02:43] <kemik> joh:  ouch.. well.. your situation sounds messy...
[02:43] <kemik> joh:  maybe try a livecd and mount partition and change permissions from there ?
[02:44] <ompaul> kemik, I am trying to figure out if there was some way to make it work where something like skype (the native version) which is something of a broken package under breezy and make all those okey
[02:44] <joh> kemik: that could work...
[02:44] <ompaul> okely dokiely
[02:44] <theine> what's the difference between flashplayer-mozilla and flashplugin-nonfree?
[02:44] <jake> nalioth: i am a huge noob, whats a terminal?
[02:44] <TiMiDo> jake to put commands
[02:45] <nalioth> ubotu: tell jake about cli
[02:45] <kemik> joh:  ysh, possibly.. unless someone knows better that's what i'd do
[02:45] <nalioth> jake: applications > system tools > Terminal
[02:45] <net08> what is the package for xdmcp
[02:45] <joh> kemik: ok, thanks.
[02:45] <deFrysk> jake, its a command line terminal
[02:46] <kemik> ompaul:  ok.. well.. that wouldnt be much "code" either
[02:46] <jake> its not in system tools for me
[02:46] <kemik> ompaul:  if it's for a small set of applications
[02:46] <ompaul> jake being a noob you would not know about asking the channel as opposed to a single person who may or may not have an answer for you, in the latter case putting a person who might otherwise help you on the back foot
[02:46] <deFrysk> jack-, check asseccories
[02:46] <net08> I just installed ltsp and xdmcp is not installed?
[02:46] <ompaul> kemik, think as generic as possible :)
[02:46] <deFrysk> jake, i mean
[02:46] <TiMiDo> yapyccky, cannot find anything on that error,
[02:46] <kemik> ompaul:  well, it would have to be hardcoded the paths to the .debs and stuff
[02:47] <yapyccky> thx in anycase TiMiDo
[02:47] <jake> deFrysk: got it
[02:47] <kemik> ompaul:  so it cant be very general really
[02:47] <Cyro> HI
[02:47] <TiMiDo> try man program
[02:47] <TiMiDo> Cyro, hi lower the caps plz
[02:47] <ompaul> kemik, no, you missunderstand me
[02:47] <Cyro> hi ._.
[02:47] <TiMiDo> thnx
[02:47] <TiMiDo> i apreciated it
[02:47] <Gorlist> hmmm slight problem: - /usr/local/winetools/Xdialog: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:47] <Cyro> :)
[02:47] <ompaul> kemik, lets take this idea to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:48] <kemik> ompaul:  sure
[02:48] <ompaul> kemik, its not really helping others :)
[02:48] <grexk> hello
[02:48] <TiMiDo> !info supybot
[02:48] <ubotu> supybot: (robust and user friendly Python IRC bot), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.79.9999+0.80.0pre4-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 581 kB, Installed size: 2924 kB
[02:48] <grexk> !dmcp
[02:48] <ubotu> grexk: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[02:48] <Gorlist> i believe they are wrongly named, ?
[02:48] <BurgerMann> how do I display group members in the shell?
[02:48] <Gorlist> or how would I find the apt libgtk files
[02:49] <grexk> ubotu: what do you mean
[02:49] <ubotu> grexk: Bugger all, i dunno
[02:49] <TiMiDo> Gorlist, apt-cache search libgtk
[02:49] <TiMiDo> !info libgtk
[02:49] <nalioth> ubotu: tell grexk about ubotu
[02:49] <grexk> ubotu: sorry
[02:49] <ubotu> grexk: I give up, what is it?
[02:49] <Gorlist> and the same for libgtk-common?
[02:49] <kemik> BurgerMann:  the naive way would be "cat /etc/passwd | grep groupname" but im sure there are better ways to do it
[02:50] <pilgrim_executer> can anyone help me set up deadzone on a joystick?
[02:50] <Gorlist> I found
[02:50] <Gorlist> they are libgtk2.0-0
[02:50] <grexk> ubotu: I can't ltspcfg  XDMCP?package not installed
[02:50] <ubotu> grexk: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[02:51] <cron0> Hey I am looking for the guy who is hosting the FreeNX files on "Blackbird Test Server"
[02:53] <nalioth> grexk: ubotu is a bot
[02:53] <nalioth> grexk: read your private msgs
[02:53] <nalioth> cron0: you seek Seveas. he'll be on later
[02:53] <grexk> yup, Im reading it right now
[02:54] <mr_owen> HI
[02:54] <mr_owen> ow
[02:54] <mr_owen> sorry for capslock
[02:54] <Gorlist> not sure if anyone here would know what might be causing this? - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=380886&postcount=193
[02:54] <mr_owen> i need to install my wifi card on my laptop with kubutu
[02:54] <winux>  where can i find the list of harwdware supported by the linux kernel? i dont see it it kernel.org.
[02:54] <mr_owen> any ideas how to do this ?
[02:55] <grexk> nalioth: what is the use of that bot?
[02:56] <nalioth> grexk: information
[02:56] <grexk> nalioth: ok thanks
[02:57] <mr_owen> nalioth ?
[02:57] <simonschmidt> I'm trying to install ubuntu on a oldworld mac, I have gotten to the step when you are supposed to reboot and it spits out the cd. I have copied the kernel and ramdisk to the mac partition, but when I reboot I get the penguin in the upper left (although inverted) but no text. and then the screen goes black. it respondes to ping...
[02:57] <grexk> nalioth: No factoids containing "ltsp"
[02:57] <nalioth> mr_owen: yes?
[02:57] <mr_owen> any ideas how i should do this ?
[02:57] <mr_owen> installing my wifi card for laptop on kubuntu ?
[02:57] <nalioth> simonschmidt: you put the initr.d and such on the / of the mac?
[02:57] <simonschmidt> naliouth: yes
[02:58] <simonschmidt> naliouth: well no in the Linux Kernels folder
[02:58] <grexk> nalioth: How can I change may password in freenode?
[02:58] <nalioth> simonschmidt: the wiki has very good instructions, if you follow them.
[02:58] <simonschmidt> nalioth: I did but I get a black screen
[02:59] <nalioth> grexk: if you dont know your password, visit #freenode. if you do know your password, type /msg nickserv help
[02:59] <nalioth> simonschmidt: i'm not sure what is goin on then
[02:59] <Ungy_> how do I mount a samba file share drive that contains my music so I can listen to it?
[03:00] <simonschmidt> nalioth: you wouldn't know how to start ssh on it without a screen :)
[03:00] <kemik> Ungy_:  sudo mount -t smbfs /share /mountpoint
[03:00] <kemik> Ungy_:  you'll probably have to apt-get smbfs
[03:00] <nalioth> simonschmidt: no i dont
[03:00] <kemik> Ungy_:  and possibly use -o user=username,pass=password as arguments aswell
[03:01] <grexk> nalioth: but i can send msg in the channel?
[03:01] <Ungy_> kemik thanks I try that
[03:01] <grexk> nalioth: but i can't send msg in the channel?
[03:02] <nalioth> grexk: wait a bit, and they'll voice you
[03:02] <grexk> nalioth: ok
[03:02] <grexk> nalioth: can u answer my question?
[03:03] <nalioth> grexk: they are talking to you in #freenode
[03:05] <Ungy_> what does this mean when I try to connect Unknown parameter encountered: "SO_RCVBUF"
[03:07] <Ofe> what's the ubuntuforums url?
[03:07] <simonschmidt> Ofe: www.ubuntuforums.org
[03:07] <noph> Ofe, do you even care to try finding it yourself?
[03:08] <Ofe> thanks.
[03:08] <Ungy_> wierd man I never have trouble connecting from debian but it won't mount
[03:08] <pilgrim_executer> does anyone use a joystick?
[03:09] <david_> hi
[03:09] <Ofe> noph: 0.8kbps. tried google but it takes about 15min to load 'cuz I have synaptic downloading too. :)
[03:11] <bigfoot1> how come realplayer10 won't start? realplay.bin is in system monitor 3 times, but all 3 are sleeping.
[03:11] <Ungy_> hmm I guess if I want to connect to my debian samba shares I have to do ti from windows cause ubuntu can't do it strange
[03:12] <mr_owen> does anyone know how i can install a wifi card on a laptop ?
[03:12] <Ungy_> mr_owen does the card have linux drivers?
[03:13] <mr_owen> don't think so
[03:13] <mr_owen> it's a belkin
[03:13] <Ungy_> if not you will have to use a ndis_wrapper I believe
[03:15] <Ungy_> mr_owen do an apt-cache search ndiswrapper and see what is available
[03:16] <HappyFool> mr_owen: have you looked here? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[03:16] <slept> Ungy_, did you add a smbuser ? what does smbtree give you ?
[03:16] <Ungy_> mr_owen good luck I got work to do and since I can't get my music share to work in ubuntu i gotaa go back to windows. so take care and good luck I know there are plenty of resources about that wrapper available via google
[03:17] <Fearan> does anyone know how to mount network shares in a local folder?
[03:17] <Fearan> (synchronously)
[03:17] <Ungy_> slept smbtree gives me Unknown parameter encountered: "SO_RCVBUF"
[03:17] <grexk> does anyone know package relate to xdmcp?
[03:17] <grexk> related*
[03:18] <concept10> Anyone familiar with the application 'Textmate' for OS X?
[03:18] <Ungy_> slept and wonce I give it password it shows all of my shares ont eh network
[03:19] <nalioth> concept10: ask in ##apple
[03:19] <slept> Ungy_, use testparm on your server to find out if your config has errors
[03:19] <concept10> nalioth, im looking for a Linux application thats similar, thats why I asked
[03:19] <Fearan> anybody know how to mount nfs/smb shares in a local folder like /nfs or something?
[03:19] <jayr3n> #winehq
[03:20] <concept10> Fearan, thats already a part of mounting with nfs
[03:20] <Fearan> well... gnome mounts it in a folder called Warp10
[03:20] <Fearan> but i want programs to be able to access it
[03:21] <slept> Fearan, mount -t nfs or smbfs add them to fstab if you want them to be added permanent
[03:21] <Fearan> cool
[03:21] <Fearan> thanks
[03:21] <HappyFool> Fearan: looked here? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo (there are several other NFS* articles)
[03:21] <Fearan> so it will be able to mount to something like /nfs?
[03:21] <concept10> Fearan, Yes
[03:21] <Fearan> ty
[03:21] <FhaeTon> hello anyone here?
[03:21] <fredforfaen> FhaeTon yep
[03:21] <concept10> Fearan, for example: sudo mount 192.168.2.31:/mnt/jukebox /media/nfs/
[03:22] <gecois> magharious
[03:22] <Fearan> ok
[03:22] <FhaeTon> I get this error code after install and trying to lauch 2 : Bad file or directory type
[03:22] <FhaeTon> This error is returned if a file requested is not a regular file, but something like a symbolic link, directory, or FIFO.
[03:22] <Ungy_> slept no errors
[03:22] <g79y90> hallo
[03:22] <FhaeTon> hi
[03:23] <JoeBaldwin> hi
[03:23] <Antiliis> Are there problems with mailing lists?
[03:23] <HappyFool> FhaeTon: when does this error happen?
[03:23] <wamox> ok got myself a 2. internet connection now..lol
[03:23] <concept10> Fearan, that mounts the /mnt/jukebox directory on 192.168.blah to /media/nfs
[03:23] <Fearan> ok
[03:23] <Fearan> thanks
[03:23] <FhaeTon> when booting
[03:23] <HappyFool> FhaeTon: at one point during the bootup?
[03:23] <HappyFool> at what point, sorry
[03:23] <Ungy_> slept I restarted samba and that error from beofre went away
[03:23] <JoeBaldwin> i have a set of ubuntu discs all ready to install (fled back to windows from linux) but there's only one stopper...does anyone know where I can get mpd packages for Ubuntu which have mp3 support?
[03:23] <FhaeTon> on the screen that displays PCI device listing
[03:23] <Ungy_> Now I get a connection refused
[03:24] <concept10> Fearan, but thats after you setup the nfs server and client stuff, so check the wiki... and then mount like crazy (I do)
[03:24] <bram> hi, which repository is recomended to install w32codecs and libdvdcss (hoary) ?
[03:24] <toran> hey guys, is there a way to get juk to submit to audioscrobbler?
[03:24] <FhaeTon> right after it list the devices the error 2 starts
[03:24] <JoeBaldwin> bram; google marillat and download their packages
[03:25] <blekos> hello pple
[03:25] <concept10> toran, check the audioscrobbler site, they list client that work with that
[03:25] <Ungy_>  does this look correct? mount -t smbfs -o username=brader,password=****** //192.168.1.4/music /home/brader/music
[03:25] <HappyFool> FhaeTon: ok, so this is a grub error
[03:25] <Fearan> concept10, thanks
[03:25] <FhaeTon> tyes
[03:25] <FhaeTon> yes
[03:25] <blekos> anybody knows how to stop bluetooth from loading at boot?
[03:25] <toran> concept10: I know juk doesn't official support it, but I know there's a patch lying around somewhere
[03:25] <concept10> blekos, disable the service
[03:25] <bram> JoeBaldwin, thanks I try that one
[03:25] <toran> to make it work ;-)
[03:25] <blekos> how do i do that?
[03:26] <HappyFool> FhaeTon: what version of ubuntu, and what else is installed on your computer? also, how did you install?
[03:26] <concept10> toran, I know that they support xmms, bmp, quod libet and I think rhythmbox
[03:26] <nalioth> JoeBaldwin: marillat will kill an ubuntu box
[03:26] <toran> quod libet?
[03:26] <FhaeTon> ok one sec
[03:26] <nalioth> bram: be careful marillat is not good for ubuntu
[03:26] <JoeBaldwin> nalioth: their win32codecs package worked for me
[03:26] <concept10> blekos, are you running hoary?
[03:26] <toran> I haven't found any linux players I like as well as juk. I am not really happy with juk, but I'm settling for it. I'm looking for a very light-weight player that is not xmms/bmp
[03:26] <blekos> nop
[03:26] <JoeBaldwin> although to be honest the w32c is all I found
[03:27] <blekos> breeze
[03:27] <JoeBaldwin> toran, try mpd
[03:27] <Linux_Galore> hai
[03:27] <nalioth> ubotu: tell JoeBaldwin about w32codecs
[03:27] <popey> is there a nice easy gnome tool for editing the rcN.d stuff, to easily configure what starts/stops at bootup?
[03:27] <bram> ok. I read that hoary-extras was the place to be but they removed the w32c...
[03:27] <nalioth> ubotu: tell bram about w32codecs
[03:27] <toran> JoeBaldwin: tried it
[03:27] <Linux_Galore> anyone got a howto for setting up a i915 card in Ubuntu 5.04
[03:27] <toran> most of the interfaces were crap
[03:27] <Linux_Galore> sorry mobo not card.........sound doesnt seem to work
[03:27] <concept10> toran, quod libet is a excellent jukebox
[03:27] <toran> ok
[03:28] <concept10> !info quodlibet
[03:28] <blekos> i've the services manager but cannot c anything about bluetooth
[03:28] <Linux_Galore> the normal methods dont seem to work
[03:28] <FhaeTon> I have a raid0, SLI vid card setup [img] http://homepage.mac.com/jymac/FhaeTon_sig.jpg[/img] 
[03:28] <Linux_Galore> just wondering if anyone has a hack
[03:28] <nxv_> howto setup mplayer in breezy?
[03:28] <JoeBaldwin> okay, last I tried mpd on ubuntu didn't play any mp3s or add them to the library...looks like it does now
[03:28] <concept10> blekos, the services manager in gnome 2.12 sucks, use the application called BUM
[03:28] <JoeBaldwin> hmph
[03:28] <JoeBaldwin> time to try it out
[03:28] <FhaeTon> I installed from a burned CD Ubuntu 5.10 64
[03:28] <JoeBaldwin> off to install :D
[03:29] <concept10> blekos, sudo apt-get install bum
[03:29] <FhaeTon> preview install
[03:29] <blekos> ok i'll do that
[03:29] <concept10> I have no idea why they didnt use BUM instead of the services manager in gnome
[03:30] <HappyFool> FhaeTon: and you did a conventional install?
[03:30] <FhaeTon> I have no clue
[03:30] <Maschine> Hi! I have problems with software raid! There is one ide raid5 with 3 disks and one scsi raid1 with 2 disks. The base system was installed to md0 (which was assigned to the scsi on install) but now on booting breezy thinks the ide is md0 :-( Please help me!
[03:30] <HappyFool> FhaeTon: RAID *might* be a complicating factor, but i'm not sure
[03:31] <HappyFool> FhaeTon: i mean, you didn't select any non-default options during install
[03:31] <FhaeTon> hmmm
[03:31] <nalioth> concept10: what do you need that fleabag for?
[03:31] <FhaeTon> not sure what ya mean sorry
[03:32] <concept10> nalioth, because I have no fence, so I cant keep my own pet :(
[03:32] <HappyFool> FhaeTon: assuming you did a normal install, my guess is a bug or unsupported hardware. I doubt I can really help -- I'm not experienced with amd64 or raid systems
[03:32] <FhaeTon> ok thx for trying I guess I'm just stuck looking at my nice rig
[03:33] <Ungy_> does this look correct mount -t smbfs -o username=brader,password=******** //192.168.1.4/music /home/brader/music
[03:33] <SaiBoth> hey guys. :)
[03:33] <FhaeTon> tit is pleasing to look at though
[03:33] <SaiBoth> I'm new in here...
[03:33] <SaiBoth> ^^
[03:33] <Hobbsee> hi SaiBoth
[03:33] <FhaeTon> nah I wann aplay on it
[03:33] <SaiBoth> so I'll prolly be asking a lot of stupid questions in the beginning. :)
[03:33] <ubuntu> hi
[03:34] <ubuntu> hello
[03:34] <ubuntu> does any one know how to fix my sound
[03:34] <nalioth> SaiBoth: there are no stupid questions
[03:34] <nalioth> ubotu: tell ubuntu about sound
[03:34] <SaiBoth> ooooooh yes there are. :D
[03:34] <SaiBoth> I'm a total linux noob...
[03:34] <ubuntu> this is great
[03:35] <toxicle> SaiBoth: ubuntu good for noob
[03:35] <SaiBoth> we're just learning it in school now, ... I have a iMac g3 standing around here... :)
[03:35] <ubuntu> better than windows
[03:35] <SaiBoth> so I just installed ubuntu on it. :p
[03:35] <Ungy_> SaiBoth, so was everyone in here at one point in time
[03:35] <SaiBoth> no, I'm no computer noob... I'm just a linux noob. :D
[03:35] <nalioth> SaiBoth: you might also like ##apple
[03:35] <Ungy_> SaiBoth, if your using a Mac I would say you are a computer noob ;-) but that is ok
[03:35] <moparfan90> hello i need win32 codecs for totem     someone help me please
[03:36] <nalioth> ubotu: tell moparfan90 about w32codecs
[03:36] <SaiBoth> Ungy_: I'm not using an apple. :p I just have one left from my pre-windows period. :p
[03:36] <Maschine> ubotu: tell Maschine about raid
[03:36] <SaiBoth> ubotu = bot I presume. :D
[03:36] <ubotu> SaiBoth: No idea
[03:36] <Ungy_> Saiboth yoru prewindows period was when they had G3's out?
[03:36] <private> wow. that just worked also. :)
[03:37] <SaiBoth> yeah. :p
[03:37] <SaiBoth> I even worked on G4 for a while. :)
[03:37] <nalioth> SaiBoth: the channel ##apple may provide support also
[03:37] <SaiBoth> then sold that one, to begin my highschool
[03:38] <toran> hey guys, how do I get mp3 support in quod libet?
[03:38] <toran> mp3's work in all my other audio players
[03:38] <paulproteus|jhu> toran, install the pymad package
[03:38] <toran> i did
[03:38] <toran> apt-get install python-pymad
[03:38] <paulproteus|jhu> toran, What version of quodlibet?
[03:38] <private> question: I cannot find libx11 on ubuntu 5. trrying to install kylix3. any hints?
[03:38] <paulproteus|jhu> toran, Try the version of quodlibet in Breezy.
[03:38] <toran> I just downloaded the latest
[03:38] <paulproteus|jhu> toran, You should try the package from Breezy.
[03:38] <toran> is quod available in apt?
[03:38] <toran> I couldn't get it with apt-get
[03:39] <toran> I downloaded the source and am running that
[03:39] <Maschine> great help here
[03:39] <Maschine> bye
[03:39] <reter> any reason why amsn would freeze all the sudden?
[03:39] <paulproteus|jhu> toran, go to packages.ubuntu.com/quodlibet and download the package from breezy.
[03:39] <reter> and how can i get it to close and force the frozen amsn to quit
[03:39] <toran> paulproteus: thanks
[03:40] <reter> ok
[03:40] <SaiBoth> arf... allready had my first error. :s
[03:40] <reter> anyone
[03:40] <SaiBoth> somthing with nautilus that couldn't be started? :s
[03:40] <Ungy_> toran apt-cache search quod will tell you if it is there
[03:40] <HappyFool> reter: applications -> system tools -> system monitor
[03:41] <Ungy_> toran and you might want to add all the repositories
[03:41] <toran> I have all that I can find added (I have ubuntuguide.org's extras in there too_
[03:41] <toran> * )
[03:41] <HappyFool> reter: look for the 'amsn' process, right-click on it and choose 'Kill process'
[03:42] <reter> HappyFool, i did a killall amsn in commandline but it still there
[03:43] <reter> i tried to close the application but it wouldnt go away
[03:44] <HappyFool> reter: try the system monitor. you can also try 'xkill' (i can't remember what the gnome equivalent is)
[03:44] <_jason> reter are you using gnome?
[03:45] <concept10>  reter, what are you attempting to kill again?
[03:45] <reter> amsn
[03:45] <reter> i did a killall to amsn
[03:46] <wamox> im asked to write down /etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd status "status of apache".. but i dont have that path..nor do i find anything like it in my path either
[03:46] <reter> concept, amsn froze and i cant get rid of it
[03:46] <SaiBoth> euhm... got a first stupid question allready... :D
[03:46] <_jason> reter:  are you sure the process is called amsn?
[03:46] <reter> _jason, yes
[03:46] <SaiBoth> how the hell do I type a | on my mac keyboard? :D
[03:46] <reter> _jason, what else is it called?
[03:46] <concept10> reter, in gnome?
[03:46] <HappyFool> try 'pgrep amsn' to check
[03:46] <_jason> reter:  you can try adding the applet "forcequit" to your panel... then you just point and click on amsn
[03:47] <reter> _jason, how do i do that
[03:47] <CarlFK> Anyone know were the Sep 29/30 messages are? http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-September/thread.html
[03:48] <concept10> something I do in gnome, when a app gets stuck, I rightclick on the app in the panel and hit close about three times and it asks if you want to quit
[03:48] <zl> hello all
[03:48] <_jason> reter: right click on a panel, "add panel".  Then look for "forcequit".  Then press the forcequit icon that shows up.
[03:49] <zl> i am about to dl a distro, i was thinking about the usual fedora, suse etc, but someone told me about ubuntu. well my question is, why should i choose ubuntu? :-) (someone to convince me pls)
[03:49] <nalioth> reter: you can also hit ctrl-f2, type xkill in the box (and the next thing you click on will die)
[03:49] <nalioth> zl: one reason is the one you are in
[03:50] <zl> irc support?
[03:50] <havoc> nalioth: morning :)
[03:50] <_jason> nalioth:  what does ctrl+f2 do?
[03:50] <havoc> _jason: it sounds like it starts Xkill
[03:50] <Hobbsee> _jason: i think that might be meant to say alt+f2
[03:50] <reter> coontrol f2 did nothing for me
[03:50] <havoc> _jason: oops, it pops up a "run" box
[03:51] <Hobbsee> and to answer the question, brings a run box up
[03:51] <_jason> HappyFool:  ah ok
[03:51] <_jason> oops
[03:51] <nalioth> zl: yes. we are very helpful here
[03:51] <_jason> havoc:  ah ok
[03:51] <CarlFK> zl, I have installed ubunto on about 8 laptops, and it does a better job of setting up stuff like wifi, sound, cpu throttling
[03:51] <zl> great, i am going to use it on a laptop
[03:51] <adam_> hello all
[03:51] <nalioth> _jason: my bad. apologies. it's alt-f2, type xkill in the box (and kill the next thing you click on)
[03:52] <adam_> anyone good with xine? and the dvd codec?
[03:52] <nalioth> ubotu: tell adam_ about dvd
[03:52] <havoc> adam_: auch as?
[03:52] <havoc> such as?
[03:52] <nalioth> havoc: g'day
[03:52] <adam_> im getting an error when i try to run a dvd with xine... am i missing a plugin?
[03:52] <adam_> it says at the top there is no mri
[03:53] <havoc> adam_: look at what ubotu sent you
[03:53] <adam_> got it
[03:54] <adam_> what is ubotu? the bot?
[03:54] <havoc> yup
[03:54] <adam_> ah
[03:54] <havoc> a very nifty bot :)
[03:54] <adam_> so, can i just search for the libdvdcss2 in the repos?
[03:55] <adam_> or is there something else i need to do?
[03:55] <havoc> adam_: I *think* so, it might be in multiverse though
[03:55] <mr_owen> ehm
[03:55] <adam_> kk
[03:55] <adam_> ill look gimme a sec
[03:55] <CarlFK> adam_ - it got moved... just a sec
[03:55] <nalioth> adam_: ubotu told you where to get it
[03:55] <adam_> ok
[03:55] <havoc> !find libdvdcss2
[03:55] <adam_> it says hoary extras
[03:55] <Kaparen> .
[03:55] <adam_> so, add that repo?
[03:56] <CarlFK> ubotu: tell me dvd
[03:56] <zl> are there rpms or something like that? i know the story about compiling but sometimes i get too bored..
[03:56] <irwin> hey guys, trying to get decent 3d support for my ati radeon under linux, but getting some very bad framerates...lspci gives "0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 4153
[03:56] <irwin> 0000:01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 4173", lsmod | grep fgl gives "fglrx                 248360  7" and glxgears gives around 1700fps
[03:56] <nalioth> ubotu: tell adam_ about hoaryextras
[03:56] <shiv> where can I edit my boot screen? I want to make windows as default login
[03:56] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'libdvdcss2' returned no results.
[03:57] <_jason> shiv: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:57] <nalioth> zl: ubuntu is based on debian and uses debs
[03:57] <mr_owen> when i installed kubuntu it never asked me for a root pasword
[03:57] <nalioth> zl: www.ubuntulinux.org and wiki.ubuntu.com have loads of info
[03:57] <mr_owen> and now when i want to go in admin mode, it always ask for that paswordd
[03:58] <mr_owen> how can i set that pasword ?
[03:58] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mr_owen about root
[03:58] <Hobbsee> mr_owen: the password for the user you created in installation is the root password
[03:58] <adam_> thanks guys, gonna try to find it...
[03:58] <shiv> how do I enable root user
[03:58] <HappyFool> Hobbsee: that is incorrect; sudo uses the user password. there is, by default, no root password
[03:58] <mr_owen> no it isn't
[03:59] <SaiBoth> Ungy_...
[03:59] <HappyFool> ubotu, tell shiv about root
[03:59] <SaiBoth> got a sec?
[03:59] <blekos> how is possible to have sound but the alsa services not to be activated???
[03:59] <mr_owen> it doesn't work with no pasword
[03:59] <mr_owen> and it doesn't work with no pasword
[03:59] <HappyFool> mr_owen: did you read the page ubotu sent to you?
[03:59] <nalioth> mr_owen: read what ubotu sent
[03:59] <zl> yeah u are right i'll read about. but guys one final question. i am thinking of using mostly the cli (might not even run kde etc at all).. should i still go for ubuntu?
[04:00] <nalioth> zl: linux is linux
[04:00] <CarlFK> zl - when you do the install, find the "server" option
[04:00] <zl> great
[04:00] <HappyFool> zl: apt-get is a beautiful thing, whether you use cli or gui
[04:00] <CarlFK> zl - it only loads up about 300meg of install, no X, no browser, no office, etc
[04:01] <zl> ok ill go for that. thanx all again. see u around after my homework
[04:01] <Hobbsee> HappyFool: my mistake
[04:01] <adam_> ok, it says i have to read libdvdread3 and it will tell me where to get it... it doesnt.
[04:02] <adam_> should i just install windvd through wine to get it to run?
[04:02] <CarlFK> adam_ - don't do this yet, but I use deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-extras restricted
[04:02] <nalioth> adam_: oh no, thats a horrible thought
[04:02] <adam_> i know...
[04:02] <adam_> see
[04:02] <adam_> im using a64 ver
[04:02] <nalioth> adam_: ah. you may want to use 686 kernel
[04:02] <adam_> well shit
[04:03] <adam_> haha
[04:03] <mr_owen> yes i did read it
[04:03] <Kaparen> is it any good adam, the a64 ver.?
[04:03] <whyameye> how can I find out from the command line how much disk space a tree of subdirectories is taking?
[04:03] <nalioth> adam_: amd64 is not very useable for consumers
[04:03] <CarlFK> now, will someone tell me where I should be getting from?
[04:03] <mr_owen> but that still doesnt help me
[04:03] <mr_owen> it ask's for a pasword
[04:03] <slept> whyameye, df -sh
[04:03] <mr_owen> and it doesn't accept mine
[04:03] <adam_> im not a consumer, nor a newb to linux... just learning apt-get and ubuntu
[04:03] <adam_> yes, its good
[04:03] <adam_> just a bit difficult at times
[04:03] <adam_> fast... very fast
[04:03] <nalioth> adam_: the flash, java, blah and bling dont work very well (if at all) on amd64
[04:03] <shiv> this is what I get
[04:03] <shiv> root@edubuntu:~# /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:03] <shiv> bash: /boot/grub/menu.lst: Permission denied
[04:04] <adam_> i havent found that to be true yet
[04:04] <adam_> about the java and all
[04:04] <adam_> but, i will im sure
[04:04] <nalioth> shiv: use sudo when you open it
[04:04] <shiv> I did
[04:04] <shiv> its root
[04:04] <shiv> I enabled it
[04:04] <adam_> so, libdvdread doesnt tell me where to get the file... suggestion?
[04:04] <whyameye> slept: s is not a valid flag. df seems to tell me about the total space used on the disk, not in a set of subdirectories.
[04:04] <nalioth> adam_: hang on a minute
[04:04] <adam_> kk
[04:04] <shiv> I just upgraded mu edubuntu, It was there in the System list but now its gone
[04:05] <CarlFK> adam_ did you see that repo line I posted?
[04:05] <slept> whyameye, sorry du -sh
[04:05] <shiv> Can't find the program and Windows was gone in the boot meny
[04:05] <whyameye> slept: nice! Thanks!
[04:05] <Kaparen> ok thanks, maybe I'll upgrade to 64 when I go Breezer. Flash and Java is still pertty usefull while surfing.
[04:05] <nalioth> adam_: ne'er forget uncle google loves you http://mirror.isp.net.au/ftp/pub/ubuntu/pool/main/libd/libdvdread/
[04:05] <paulproteus|jhu> whyameye, du
[04:05] <mr_owen> goddamnit
[04:06] <mr_owen> can anyone help me out here please ?
[04:06] <mr_owen> i can login with my user and pasword
[04:06] <paulproteus|jhu> mr_owen, What's the question?
[04:06] <paulproteus|jhu> mr_owen, to what?
[04:06] <adam_> thanks
[04:06] <slept> mr_owen, there in no root password
[04:06] <adam_> ok this is killing me too
[04:06] <mr_owen> and if i want to adjust something, like to change the clock, it asks for a pasword
[04:06] <CarlFK> nalioth - that any better than using deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-extras restricted
[04:06] <paulproteus|jhu> mr_owen, That's your user's password.
[04:06] <mr_owen> NO IT IS NOT
[04:06] <paulproteus|jhu> tell mr_owen about sudo
[04:06] <adam_> nalioth, got a sec ?
[04:06] <mr_owen> it's not the user pasword
[04:07] <paulproteus|jhu> mr_owen, In GNOME or KDE?
[04:07] <mr_owen> KDE
[04:07] <shiv> how do I reinstall grub?
[04:07] <paulproteus|jhu> shiv, you should never need to.
[04:07] <mr_owen> kubuntu
[04:07] <nalioth> CarlFK: mirrormax is no longer a valid URL. using it may cause more problems than backports do already
[04:07] <shiv> but as I said, I lost windows from the list
[04:07] <paulproteus|jhu> mr_owen, Hmm, maybe ask in #kubuntu
[04:07] <paulproteus|jhu> mr_owen, You could try this:
[04:07] <paulproteus|jhu> $ sudo passwd root
[04:07] <paulproteus|jhu> (set a password for root)
[04:07] <nalioth> CarlFK: search planet.ubuntulinux.org for "backports" for official b/p news
[04:07] <CarlFK> nalioth - doh... thanks
[04:07] <adam_> i got the file, but it wont open... its in tar... so do i have to untar it? or can i use the environment to do it?
[04:07] <paulproteus|jhu> And see if that password works.
[04:08] <paulproteus|jhu> shiv, unlike LILO, if you edit menu.lst, grub updates the list on bootup automatically.
[04:08] <nalioth> ubotu: tell adam_ about cli
[04:08] <paulproteus|jhu> shiv, Oh, sad.
[04:08] <adam_> i know how to use the cli
[04:08] <paulproteus|jhu> There's a GUI boot manager editor.
[04:08] <adam_> and to untar
[04:08] <paulproteus|jhu> adam_, Which file?
[04:08] <adam_> but i was just wondering if there was another way... learning remember?
[04:08] <CarlFK> nalioth - did libdvdcss2 used to be in uni ormultiver?
[04:08] <adam_> the lib file
[04:08] <paulproteus|jhu> The dpkg file?
[04:08] <paulproteus|jhu> Does it end in .deb ?
[04:08] <nalioth> CarlFK: multi, i believe
[04:08] <whyameye> from the command line, is there a way to delete a directory tree, even if the directories are not empty?
[04:08] <paulproteus|jhu> whyameye, "rm -rf /path/to/thing/ "
[04:08] <nalioth> whyameye: yes.
[04:08] <adam_> yes
[04:08] <paulproteus|jhu> But be *SURE* you want to do that. :)
[04:08] <adam_> it does
[04:08] <shiv> I know its there, I just need to add it manually I guess
[04:08] <paulproteus|jhu> adam_, Then it's a package file.
[04:08] <slept> shiv,  grub-update
[04:09] <mr_owen> it says
[04:09] <paulproteus|jhu> adam_, You can install it with "dpkg -i {filename} "
[04:09] <adam_> ah
[04:09] <adam_> kk
[04:09] <mr_owen> sudo: set : command not found
[04:09] <paulproteus|jhu> $ sudo passwd root
[04:09] <shiv> this is ugly
[04:09] <shiv> root@edubuntu:~# grub-update
[04:09] <shiv> bash: grub-update: command not found
[04:09] <paulproteus|jhu> I didn't say "set" anywhere; did you type that in yourself?
[04:09] <adam_> got it
[04:09] <whyameye> paulproteus|jhu, thanks, that worked!
[04:10] <paulproteus|jhu> whyameye, Glad to hear it.
[04:10] <paulproteus|jhu> Use that carefully; I don't want to hear you say later, "It worked too well.  I lost my data." ;)
[04:10] <mr_owen> well
[04:10] <mr_owen> pasword updated succesfully
[04:10] <shiv> ah its without the hyphen
[04:10] <paulproteus|jhu> shiv, update-grub
[04:10] <mr_owen> but it still doesn't work in the kde env
[04:10] <slept> shiv sorry update-grub
[04:10] <nalioth> mr_owen: use "kdesu"
[04:10] <mr_owen> ?
[04:10] <paulproteus|jhu> mr_owen, Ask in #kubuntu .  I only know the GNOME stuff, which uses sudo for sure.
[04:11] <shiv> now I am here
[04:11] <shiv> grub>
[04:11] <nalioth> mr_owen: if you use "sudo" or root account in KDE, you'll mess up your permissions badly
[04:11] <paulproteus|jhu> shiv, try running update-grub
[04:11] <shiv> I didi
[04:11] <shiv> I did
[04:11] <shiv> grub>
[04:11] <shiv> now what
[04:11] <paulproteus|jhu> Uh, it doesn't do that for me.
[04:12] <grgcsmc> linner
[04:12] <adam_> ok, so now dependency probs
[04:13] <adam_> wrong ver... how do i know which one to get?
[04:13] <grgcsmc> u there?
[04:13] <paulproteus|jhu> adam_, Okay, now do "apt-get -f install".
[04:13] <paulproteus|jhu> The "-f" is for "fix".
[04:13] <mr_owen> still doesn't work :(
[04:14] <slept> shiv, try grub-install (hd..)
[04:14] <adam_> ah
[04:14] <adam_> kk
[04:14] <grgcsmc> can some1 help me, my friend is having trouble with installing a modem on ubuntu
[04:14] <adam_> i did the dpkg, but it gave me dependency probs
[04:14] <adam_> so just install now?
[04:14] <mahangu> how can i delete a gw from my routing table?
[04:14] <mr_owen> can someone please come private with me and help me with a few things like installing wirelles network card, password thingies en grub boot loader
[04:15] <mr_owen> coz i'm getting nutz with this
[04:15] <test34> did the boot option just disappeared from breezy's System - Administration tools menu ??
[04:15] <paulproteus|jhu> mahangu, route del <gw>, I think
[04:15] <test34> (to edit grub)
[04:15] <paulproteus|jhu> adam_, Okay, now do "apt-get -f install".
[04:15] <CarlFK> mr_owen - unless you are paying, you will get help quicker here
[04:15] <nalioth> ubotu: tell adam_ about pastebin
[04:15] <Seveas> test34, hmm, looks like it...
[04:15] <nalioth> adam_: paste your dpkg errors to a pastebin, please
[04:15] <mahangu> paulproteus|jhu, how can i set what happens when it says "configuring network interfaces" during startup?
[04:16] <shinu> anyone know how i can view movies encoded in h264?
[04:16] <grgcsmc> can some1 help me?
[04:16] <CarlFK> how do I find other irc channels?  there is one like kernel-hackers
[04:16] <paulproteus|jhu> mahangu, the file /etc/network/interfaces, or equivalently, the GUI network administration interface
[04:16] <adam_> nalioth, i got it bud
[04:16] <adam_> rpm is sooo diff
[04:16] <paulproteus|jhu> CarlFK, Type /list into your IRC client
[04:16] <test34> Seveas, do you know what that program was called ?
[04:16] <grgcsmc> my friend is having trouble installing a modem on ubuntu
[04:16] <Seveas> boot-admin
[04:16] <nalioth> adam_: let's not discuss rpm here
[04:17] <slept> mr_owen, why do you want to do things private ? If people are able to help you with your problems they will, in addition to that if someone tells you wrong or dangerous  things otherones might correct him
[04:17] <grgcsmc> linner, can u help me?
[04:17] <test34> thanks seveas
[04:17] <mr_owen> yeah
[04:17] <Seveas> test34, but it has disappeared completely
[04:17] <mr_owen> but it would be faster and more efficient in private i thought
[04:17] <slept> no
[04:17] <grgcsmc> hello.......
[04:18] <mahangu> paulproteus|jhu, thanks mate
[04:18] <test34> Seveas, strange
[04:18] <Seveas> yes, searching bugzilla now :)
[04:18] <Ofe> Grgcsmc: dial up modem, right? I tried 7 of them and then ended up buying an external modem. :)
[04:18] <samu2> are DCgui and valknut exactly the same?
[04:18] <grgcsmc> um..
[04:18] <teh_question> hello
[04:19] <grgcsmc> its a Dell Data/Fax Modem 56K
[04:19] <Ofe> It's hard to get winmodems to work, atleast I didn't get them to work under linux.
[04:19] <slept> mr_owen, so what are your questions ?
[04:19] <teh_question> can some one help me with a few things/
[04:19] <test34> Seveas, ok, let me know if you find something;)
[04:19] <grgcsmc> best bet for him is a external....
[04:19] <Ofe> internal or external?
[04:19] <bpuccio> Seveas: do you have an amazon wishlist or the like?
[04:19] <grgcsmc> i think internal
[04:20] <nalioth> Seveas: you're hitting the big time
[04:20] <Seveas> bpuccio, neh, if you want to spend money, donate it to ubuntu :)
[04:20] <grgcsmc> brb
[04:20] <bpuccio> Seveas: done
[04:20] <teh_question> i have a question about the starter guide
[04:20] <Seveas> teh_question, the answer is: don't use that crappy thing
[04:21] <teh_question> like when you go to type that stuff in where do i type it? the root terminal? and if so do i have to download somthing
[04:21] <teh_question> but i'm really new to linux
[04:21] <teh_question> well to ubuntu
[04:21] <kennethlove> Seveas: shouldn't that have been "teh answer"?
[04:22] <sertmann> anyone heard of performance problems with harddisks on nforce/breezy? it seems terribly slow
[04:22] <adam_> whats up peeps
[04:22] <teh_question> how do i install nvidia card, and vlc?
[04:22] <gr3ml> can anyone help me get DVD playabck working on my IBM T43?
[04:22] <adam_> haha
[04:22] <adam_> i just got mine working
[04:22] <adam_> which ver of ubuntu are you running?
[04:23] <shiv> I got this problem as well http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=69945&highlight=GRUB
[04:23] <shiv> any solutions yet?
[04:23] <gr3ml> adam_ ?
[04:23] <adam_> yep
[04:23] <adam_> i just got mine working
[04:23] <adam_> dvd
[04:23] <shiv> I lost my windows from the list
[04:23] <shiv> How
[04:23] <shiv> ??
[04:23] <procrastinationn> can someone explain how i uncomment the two lines for the universe
[04:23] <shiv> plz
[04:23] <adam_> libdvdcss2
[04:23] <adam_> you need it
[04:23] <gr3ml> adam_:  stable.  Hoary
[04:23] <Seveas> procrastinationn, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:23] <gr3ml> adam_:  yeah, it's installed
[04:23] <TiMiDo> procrastinationn, remove the ## from the /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:23] <adam_> did you log off?
[04:24] <adam_> then log back in?
[04:24] <shiv> yes
[04:24] <gr3ml> rebooted many times
[04:24] <teh_question> can some one help me with installing the nvidia driver?
[04:24] <adam_> still wont work?
[04:24] <adam_> whats the error?
[04:24] <gr3ml> symptom is choppy audio and scrambled video
[04:24] <gr3ml> even though dvdcss is installed
[04:24] <procrastinationn> timi ## which ones
[04:24] <adam_> is the dvd set at dma?
[04:24] <adam_> check under the wiki how to turn it into dma mode
[04:24] <sertmann> teh_question, there is a bunch of how-to's on the forum
[04:24] <gr3ml> if i run gzine at high verbosity it tells me all these clock errors
[04:25] <gr3ml> hdparm fails for /dev/dvd (inappropriate ioclt)
[04:25] <shiv> I can't find libdvdcss2 in package list on synaptic...
[04:25] <procrastinationn> timi which ones exactly thats where im confused
[04:25] <adam_> you wont
[04:25] <sertmann> procrastinationn: have you opened the sources.list file?
[04:25] <adam_> you wont find it there... use google
[04:26] <procrastinationn> yeah
[04:26] <Hikaru79> Are the mailing lists down right now or something?
[04:26] <ubuntumark> hello this is my first time on irc using ubuntu i was wondering is there a program/application that i can download that i can watch tv (i have an ati aiw video card) does anyone know where i can find that application?
[04:26] <Hikaru79> (ubuntu-users)?
[04:26] <FhaeTon> Is anyone familiar with this procedure. ->http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Making-a-GRUB-bootable-CD_002dROM.html#Making-a-GRUB-bootable-CD_002dROM
[04:26] <procrastinationn> just dont know exactly wich ones to romove
[04:26] <adam_> mine freezes up too dvd wise
[04:26] <paulproteus|jhu> ubuntumark, All In Wonder?
[04:26] <adam_> i have to figure it out... but it works
[04:26] <paulproteus|jhu> ubuntumark, *Which* all-in-wonder?
[04:26] <ubuntumark> yep all in wonder 7500
[04:27] <sertmann> procrastinationn, in front of some of the lines there is a '#' symbol, these lines are not used by apt-get/synaptic
[04:27] <procrastinationn> but wich ones do i romve
[04:27] <ubuntumark> radeon
[04:27] <sertmann> procrastinationn: which repositories do you want acess too?
[04:27] <gr3ml> anyone else with suggestions (re: dvd playback on t43)
[04:27] <procrastinationn> universe
[04:28] <shiv> I don't have file called  menu.lst
[04:28] <adam_> did you check your drive as being dma?
[04:28] <shiv> any longer
[04:28] <teh_question> dammit
[04:28] <sertmann> procrastinationn, are you on breezy or hoary?
[04:28] <procrastinationn> hoary
[04:28] <adam_> gr3ml, did you check dma on the drive?
[04:28] <Seveas> procrastinationn, search lines that start with #deb and contain the word universe
[04:28] <shiv> plz help
[04:28] <Seveas> procrastinationn, and remove the leading '#'
[04:28] <teh_question> i keep getting errors when i go to install the nvidiua driver
[04:28] <paulproteus|jhu> ubuntumark, Search Synaptic for TV .
[04:28] <Seveas> !tell teh_question about nvidia
[04:28] <gr3ml> adam_:  i posted up a bit.  hdparm -d 1 /dev/dvd fails with incorrect ioctl
[04:29] <shiv> how to tell GRUB to make my Windows XP partition (which lives on /dev/hda1) part of the boot menu again? It seems to no longer be there after the boot manager change. All that's left is Linux.
[04:29] <paulproteus|jhu> You'll probably fine some TV watching programs.
[04:29] <paulproteus|jhu> Hopefully the card itself was configured correctly by Ubuntu and you won't have to jump through any hoops.
[04:29] <FhaeTon> http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Making-a-GRUB-bootable-CD_002dROM.html#Making-a-GRUB-bootable-CD_002dROM
[04:29] <ubuntumark> synaptic? as in .com ? im sorry im a newbie to linux
[04:29] <FhaeTon> hey shiv I'm having grub problem also
[04:29] <FhaeTon> check this out
[04:29] <FhaeTon> http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/index.html#Top
[04:29] <paulproteus|jhu> ubuntumark, No, Synaptic is the desktop package manager.
[04:30] <paulproteus|jhu> System -> Administration -> Package manager, if I recall correctly
[04:30] <procrastinationn> ok i did that
[04:30] <Rendy> alow all..
[04:30] <Rendy> anyone can help me...?
[04:30] <TiMiDo> try asking
[04:30] <TiMiDo> and maybe we can
[04:30] <sertmann> find this line "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main universe" and remove the '#' symbol in front of it
[04:31] <shiv> I can't even find menu.lst
[04:31] <shiv> in grub
[04:31] <paulproteus|jhu> /boot/grub/menu.list , shif ?
[04:31] <paulproteus|jhu> shiv, I mean.
[04:31] <paulproteus|jhu> Rendy, I use gaim usually.
[04:31] <paulproteus|jhu> Rendy, gaim is easy to use in general.
[04:31] <Rendy> where i can download it ?
[04:31] <Rendy> paulproteus|jhu : same like mIRC in Windows ?
[04:31] <paulproteus|jhu> Rendy, If you're running Ubuntu right now, it's already there.
[04:32] <ericz> http://gaim.sourceforge.net
[04:32] <paulproteus|jhu> Rendy, No, more like AOL AIM.
[04:32] <sertmann> Rendy, 'apt-get install gaim'
[04:32] <Rendy> hem... im sori cos i new with linux...
[04:32] <procrastinationn> thnx for tha advice sertman
[04:32] <Rendy> already there..
[04:33] <paulproteus|jhu> Rendy, Don't be sorry. :)
[04:33] <Rendy> where i can get it ?
[04:33] <Rendy> :)
[04:33] <paulproteus|jhu> Rendy, gaim, you mean?
[04:33] <Rendy> 'apt-get install gaim' ?
[04:33] <paulproteus|jhu> Rendy, Sure, but it's probably already installed.
[04:33] <Rendy> sertmann> Rendy, 'apt-get install gaim' <- what i?
[04:33] <Rendy> wow..
[04:33] <paulproteus|jhu> Rendy, ?
[04:34] <sertmann> Rendy, go to your terminal under Applications > Accesories
[04:34] <procrastinationn> now i need to install my nvidia drivers
[04:34] <sertmann> I didn't quite understand that sentence :)
[04:34] <procrastinationn> i just installed ET woo hoo
[04:35] <paulproteus|jhu> procrastinationn, ET?
[04:35] <paulproteus|jhu> Like, apt-get install alien?
[04:35] <gr3ml> hehe, this could be the probem:  hdparm -t /dev/dvd  -> 3.24 MB/sec
[04:35] <inc|freaky> enemy territory?
[04:35] <procrastinationn> enemy territory
[04:36] <procrastinationn> wolfenstein
[04:36] <inc|freaky> ^^
[04:36] <gr3ml> so, anyone know how to force DMA on an T43 drive?
[04:36] <procrastinationn> i need drivers now
[04:36] <butcherbird> slackware rocks
[04:36] <vitriol> is there a flag i can use with apt-get to automatically install all recommended and suggested packages automatically?
[04:36] <vitriol> automatically automatically.....
[04:36] <vitriol> :)
[04:37] <Kyral> vitriol, I believe that Aptitude has a flag
[04:37] <vitriol> oh
[04:37] <cfk> vitriol, -all- packages everywhere?
[04:37] <Kyral> aptitude -r install <package>
[04:37] <janez> hey
[04:37] <vitriol> cfk: no, just the recommended and suggested packages in addition to kubuntu-desktop
[04:37] <cfk> oh , I know... so it doesn't prompt you....
[04:37] <Kyral> or does the -r go after the install..
[04:37] <janez> anything speak spanish?
[04:37] <vitriol> i want the extra stuff
[04:38] <vitriol> like rar and kscreensaver
[04:38] <Kyral> but it only the recommendeds
[04:38] <cfk> janez, /join  ubuntu-es
[04:38] <janez> thx
[04:38] <paulproteus|jhu> gr3ml, That's not terrible.
[04:38] <apokryphos> anyone know of the fix for mplayer refusing to do a real full-screen size?
[04:38] <cfk> janez, /join #ubuntu-es
[04:38] <Xtrom> Hello everyone, I am trying to install ubuntu in my girlfriend's computer. The installation goes as far to preparing the primary apt repositories, and then it gets stuck on 25%, i ve tried several disk and they all get stuck there. can some one tell me how to get around this?
[04:38] <Hikaru79> Are the mailing lists down right now or something? (ubuntu-users)?
[04:38] <procrastinationn> how do i make sources list go back to default
[04:38] <vitriol> so -r or use aptitude?
[04:38] <paulproteus|jhu> gr3ml, Wait, I'm thinking CD-ROM terms.  I don't know how good or bad that is in CD-ROM terms.
[04:38] <paulproteus|jhu> DVD-ROM, the second time.
[04:38] <Kyral> vitriol, I mean with aptitude
[04:38] <vitriol> ah
[04:38] <paulproteus|jhu> apokryphos, You get a black border around the movie, or what?
[04:38] <Kyral> aptitude can be invoked like apt-get sometimes
[04:38] <procrastinationn> how do i make sources list go back to default
[04:39] <paulproteus|jhu> procrastinationn, Restore from your backup. ;)
[04:39] <vitriol> ohhh
[04:39] <apokryphos> paulproteus: yes, you make it full screen but the actual video-size stays the same (while the rest becomes black)
[04:39] <cfk> Hikaru79, i notices something odd with the list too: sep 29/30 wasn't on the archive page
[04:39] <vitriol> Kyral: ill do that then. thanks
[04:39] <Kyral> man aptitude for more
[04:39] <paulproteus|jhu> apokryphos, It's using the "x11" video driver rather than the better "xv" driver.
[04:39] <magicflight> hello
[04:39] <paulproteus|jhu> apokryphos, How are you invoking mplayer?
[04:39] <paulproteus|jhu> From the command-line, or some GUI, or what?
[04:39] <paulproteus|jhu> magicflight, Hi.
[04:39] <apokryphos> aargh, yeah, I knew that as well. Thanks.
[04:39] <fahim> hi guys
[04:40] <Kyral> Actually, that reminds me, is there an aptitude option like dist-upgrade
[04:40] <fahim> is there any german ubuntu chat?
[04:40] <paulproteus|jhu> apokryphos, So you're capable of solving it yourself?
[04:40] <paulproteus|jhu> fahim, #ubuntu-de probably
[04:40] <apokryphos> yup, thank you.
[04:40] <fahim> thx
[04:40] <procrastinationn> im having probs installling the nvidia drivers
[04:40] <paulproteus|jhu> apokryphos, Cool. :)
[04:40] <paulproteus|jhu> apokryphos, You should file a bug about this.
[04:40] <cfk> back to my #kernal-hackers quest - isn't there a way to /list l irc channels with wildcards?
[04:40] <paulproteus|jhu> apokryphos, Tell them to use XV  by default.
[04:40] <Spudchat> hi everyone
[04:40] <paulproteus|jhu> Spudchat, Hi.
[04:41] <Spudchat> does anyone know a linksys wireless adapter that works with linux?
[04:41] <paulproteus|jhu> Spudchat, USB, PCI, CardBus, or what?
[04:41] <Spudchat> usb
[04:41] <Kyral> Actually....how do you set file associations?
[04:41] <paulproteus|jhu> Try the madwifi driver web page or the ra2500 driver web page.
[04:42] <kennethlove> ok, which emacs is terminal-native? emacs21 and xemacs21 both are external.
[04:42] <whyameye> Spudchat, try ndiswrapper for LinkSys
[04:42] <Kyral> "external"?
[04:42] <apokryphos> paulproteus: good idea. Though, the xv doesn't seem to be working now neither :/. Error opening/initializing
[04:42] <kennethlove> Kyral: yeah, as in their own window.
[04:42] <Kyral> try running emacs with emacs -nw
[04:42] <gr3ml> Should my DVD drive not be using SCSI emulation?  It's also a burner.
[04:42] <paulproteus|jhu> kennethlove, If you don't have $DISPLAY set, emacs21 will work without X.
[04:42] <Spudchat> hmm ok
[04:42] <Kyral> or install emacs21-nox
[04:42] <paulproteus|jhu> gr3ml, SCSI emulation is deprecated
[04:42] <paulproteus|jhu> Avoid it whenever possible.
[04:43] <kennethlove> Kyral: thanks.
[04:43] <FhaeTon> Hey shiv try this http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Menu-interface.html#Menu-interface
[04:43] <Kyral> disables the X interface to Emacs
[04:43] <kennethlove> paulproteus|jhu: sounds like a bad idea to un-set $DISPLAY
[04:43] <Kyral> and GO GO Church of Emacs!
[04:43] <catfox> anyone here tried using their ipod nano with breezy?
[04:43] <apokryphos> whoop..
[04:43] <apokryphos> paulproteus|jhu:  good idea. Though, the xv doesn't seem to be working now neither :/. Error opening/initializing
[04:43] <paulproteus|jhu> apokryphos, Well maybe that's why. ;)
[04:44] <fahim> I want to install SideStripes, but after extracting there are only *.bin, *.display and *.py files. What do I have to do know?
[04:44] <kennethlove> Kyral: i love emacs. just hate having it in a window instead of the terminal.
[04:44] <paulproteus|jhu> apokryphos, mplayer -vo x11 -zoom -fs file.avi will work, but use a lot of CPU.
[04:44] <whyameye> Spudchat, my Linksys wireless is running thru ndiswrapper. But I can't help you with it now...I'm out the door. Sorry.
[04:44] <paulproteus|jhu> kennethlove, Well, when I log in on a TTY, there's no $DISPLAY .
[04:44] <Spudchat> lol ok but real quick the model number ?
[04:44] <Kyral> kennethlove, Indeed!
[04:44] <kennethlove> paulproteus|jhu: ah, yeah. this is for a local box, though. so $DISPLAY would be set (obviously)
[04:45] <Kyral> Only one thing I don't like about emacs is the lack of a good HTML editing mode
[04:45] <Kyral> which I intend to fix next semester as a project :D
[04:45] <paulproteus|jhu> Kyral, Cool. :)
[04:45] <whyameye> Spudchat, it's running now and to know the model number I'd have to unplug. Sorry. I remember it might have an 11 in it and it is version 4. BEF11v4?
[04:45] <Kyral> But I need to learn Lisp first...
[04:46] <ajentbp> can anyone help me setup sendmail
[04:46] <Spudchat> ahh ok thanks
[04:46] <Spudchat> ive got a usb one thats hell on wheels...the thing isnt even recognized as anything when i plug it in
[04:47] <Xtrom> can someone help install ubuntu? i gets stuck almost at the end of the installation
[04:47] <butcherbird> ajentbp: good luck man
[04:47] <ajentbp> thanks
[04:47] <ajentbp> xtron where did you get stuck
[04:47] <TiMiDo> !info nvu
[04:47] <Xtrom> or is there a troubleshooting guide out there that i could use
[04:48] <Xtrom> ok ejentbp
[04:48] <gr3ml> If I disable scsi emulation on my dvd-ram drive, will I still be able to burn CDs?  What driver do I use instead?
[04:48] <Xtrom> i get stuck when is setting the primary apt repositories
[04:48] <paulproteus|jhu> gr3ml, Every modern CD burning program can burn to IDE ATAPI devices now.
[04:48] <Xtrom> always 25% percent of the way
[04:48] <paulproteus|jhu> No SCSI emulation necessary.
[04:48] <ajentbp> what does the system do?
[04:48] <Xtrom> i have used several cds
[04:49] <Xtrom> it just stay there forever
[04:49] <quirky> Xtrom: what are the rough specs of the PC?
[04:49] <Xtrom> the system does not even respond
[04:49] <gr3ml> i wonder why ubuntu default setup scsi?  do i pass a kernel command line like ide=/dev/dvd or something?
[04:49] <ajentbp> for how long, because when i install mines it took awhile
[04:49] <Xtrom> 2800 athlon xp
[04:49] <Xtrom> 120 hd
[04:49] <Xtrom> 512 memory
[04:49] <ajentbp> did you do MD5 checksum on the download
[04:49] <quirky> Ah, ok, so it isn't on an old machine.
[04:50] <Xtrom> yes
[04:50] <Xtrom> i have like five of then
[04:50] <Xtrom> download it twice
[04:50] <quirky> does the live CD work?
[04:50] <ajentbp> is it a partition drivew
[04:50] <Xtrom> and i used then to install it in another computer and they worked
[04:50] <Xtrom> yes
[04:50] <paulproteus|jhu> Xtrom, have you tried the Breezy installer?
[04:50] <Xtrom> the live cd works fine
[04:51] <paulproteus|jhu> Could be a bug in Hoary?
[04:51] <paulproteus|jhu> Perhaps a really-recent system that kernel in Hoary poorly supports.
[04:51] <Xtrom> well , im trying to install breezy :)
[04:51] <paulproteus|jhu> Xtrom, Oh.
[04:51] <procrastinationn> sweeet enemy territorry works
[04:51] <paulproteus|jhu> In that case, try installing Hoary. :)
[04:51] <quirky> uf, breezy is still unstable
[04:51] <ajentbp> LOL
[04:51] <paulproteus|jhu> And at the same time, report the installation problem.
[04:51] <paulproteus|jhu> (I wonder where you should report it.)
[04:52] <procrastinationn> ok who can help me install codecs
[04:52] <Xtrom> i wish i could know whre to report it
[04:52] <leonel> breezy today update  broke the bootsplash
[04:52] <Xtrom> i mean, it really the perfect system once its running
[04:52] <quirky> Xtrom, perhaps post to the Breezy Dev list
[04:52] <paulproteus|jhu> !tell procrastinationn about restrictedformats
[04:52] <procrastinationn> oh i know about that
[04:53] <dlovett> about codecs, have you seen the Unofficial guide? instructions are there
[04:53] <gr3ml> it appears like both my drives are using scsi emulation.  i'm hesitent to override this since it was the detault.
[04:53] <Xtrom> in my computer i get kernel panic :(
[04:53] <gr3ml> that's default
[04:53] <procrastinationn> paul its just that it fails on me
[04:53] <Xtrom> my computer is old
[04:53] <procrastinationn> so is my pc
[04:54] <brenner> gr3ml: what app is this?
[04:54] <paulproteus|jhu> Xtrom, Whoa, where do you et a kernel panic?
[04:54] <Xtrom> i have a question, if i install hoary, can i then upgrade to breezy?
[04:54] <gr3ml> brenner:  app?
[04:54] <gr3ml> dvd playback failes in gxine and totem
[04:54] <gr3ml> it appears to be a speed issue
[04:54] <ompaul> please ban 66.168.222.117
[04:54] <brenner> gr3ml: application..
[04:54] <Xtrom> in my computer i get a kernel panic right at the beginning of booting the cd
[04:55] <brenner> gr3ml: how do you know it's a speed issue?
[04:55] <gr3ml> hdparm shows xfer rates of only 3MB/sec
[04:55] <jayr3n> how do i run starcraft in wine?
[04:55] <paulproteus|jhu> Xtrom, Yow.  Which release?
[04:55] <ompaul> apokryphos,  please ban 66.168.222.117
[04:55] <jayr3n> i dont have a cd
[04:55] <Xtrom> breezy and hoary
[04:55] <brenner> gr3ml: enabled DMA?
[04:55] <jayr3n> i just use a loader to play sc in windows
[04:55] <gr3ml> i can't.  i get an ioctl error
[04:55] <procrastinationn> hey as soon as its done reading it fails on me
[04:55] <ompaul> AlexMBas, please remove that
[04:55] <gr3ml> the DVD drive (and apparently my hard disk as well) are both using scsi emulation
[04:55] <apokryphos> ompaul: why? A bot? Their IPs change
[04:56] <kennethlove> Kyral: btw, thanks for emacs21-nox. beautiful.
[04:56] <paulproteus|jhu> gr3ml, Wait, are they SATA?
[04:56] <Xtrom> i am using mepis right now because i am not able to install ubuntu :(
[04:56] <gr3ml> The hard disk is SATA, I believe
[04:56] <ompaul> apokryphos, look back at the last 5 mins
[04:56] <paulproteus|jhu> If they're SATA, that's not scsi emulation.
[04:56] <johnson> !w32codecs
[04:56] <ubotu> methinks w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy). 64-bit? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[04:56] <paulproteus|jhu> gr3ml, "SCSI emulation" is a different term.
[04:56] <gr3ml> they both show up in cdrecord -scanbus
[04:56] <procrastinationn> i run sudo apt-get update and it fails on me
[04:56] <Hikaru79> Are the mailing lists down right now or something? (ubuntu-users)?
[04:56] <gr3ml> as scsibus0 and scsibus1
[04:56] <Kyral> Hmm, anyone know if Ritek DVD media is good?
[04:56] <ompaul> apokryphos, :)
[04:56] <johnson> does anyone still have trouble installing w32codecs from the link that ubotu gives?
[04:57] <procrastinationn> johnson i am
[04:57] <paulproteus|jhu> Kyral, I've heard good things about Ritek media in general.
[04:57] <Kyral> my Samsung burner is picky I guess (refuses to burn Imitation Media)
[04:57] <paulproteus|jhu> Kyral, Do you mean "Imation"?
[04:57] <gr3ml> can someone tell me their speek results from hdparm -t /dev/dvd ???
[04:57] <apokryphos> ompaul: thanks
[04:57] <johnson> procrastinationn what did you do about it?
[04:57] <Kyral> paulproteus|jhu, yah
[04:57] <procrastinationn> cant figure it out
[04:57] <TiMiDo> !info synaptic breezy
[04:57] <ubotu> synaptic: (Graphical package manager), section admin, is optional. Version: 0.57.4ubuntu7 (breezy), Packaged size: 1036 kB, Installed size: 5140 kB
[04:57] <ompaul> apokryphos, well we all can't be watching all the time :0
[04:58] <CarlFK> Hikaru79 - I haven't gotten any ubuntu-users in the last 8 hours, so I woudl say yes
[04:58] <theine> Hi, I wanna set up breezy on a friend's computer. is it better to use colony-5 or the previwe release?
[04:58] <procrastinationn> i run sudo apt-get update and it fails on me
[04:58] <ompaul> apokryphos, s/:0/:)
[04:58] <Hikaru79> CarlFK, *phew* ... so its not just me! =) Thanks!
[04:58] <apokryphos> =)
[04:58] <CarlFK> theine - wait a few weeks till breezy is finished cooking
[04:58] <Kyral> well, Newegg has a 50 pack cake box for 20 bucks
[04:58] <Samhain> I know my tv card works on linux because TV time can play it. Does anyone have any other suggestions to a good tv viewing/capture program?
[04:58] <johnson> procrastinationn are you talking to me?
[04:58] <Samhain> tv time keeps freezing
[04:58] <Kyral> of Ritek DVD-R
[04:58] <brenner> procrastinationn: define fails
[04:58] <CarlFK> theine unless you are ready to post bug reports, then use daily
[04:59] <procrastinationn> it says it signatures could not be verrfied cuz not pub key
[04:59] <procrastinationn> yes johnson
[04:59] <Kyral> Was wondering if it would be a good idea to get them
[05:00] <brenner> procrastinationn: post your sources.list to the pastebin
[05:00] <Kyral> or if I should just upgrade my burner to a good DVD Duel Layer burner
[05:00] <procrastinationn> ok but how neva done it
[05:00] <procrastinationn> only used linux for a week
[05:00] <Stricklin> I'm a newbie having trouble installing the evil_mac theme, somebody willing to help?
[05:00] <brenner> procrastinationn: open up /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:00] <theine> CarlFK, I can't wait until oct 13 for this and I really don't want to install hoary
[05:01] <CarlFK> Kyral - DL media is still $5, so I wouldn't get a DL burner
[05:01] <brenner> procrastinationn: paste the contents to paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:01] <procrastinationn> i know but i do i put it in the bin
[05:01] <Kyral> CarlFK, well, I dunno if my DVD burning ability is shot
[05:01] <witchy2k1> Can anyone help a complete novice?
[05:01] <CarlFK> theine - I would do daily - for the most part they keep getting better
[05:01] <brenner> Samhain: never used it ...but have heard of mythtv...is that something?
[05:01] <CarlFK> witchy2k1 - yes.  the novice needs to type and click
[05:01] <procrastinationn> paste.ubuntulinux.nldeb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)] / hoary main restricted
[05:01] <procrastinationn> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted
[05:01] <procrastinationn> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted
[05:01] <procrastinationn> ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
[05:01] <procrastinationn> ## distribution.
[05:01] <procrastinationn> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted
[05:01] <procrastinationn> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted
[05:01] <procrastinationn> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'
[05:02] <procrastinationn> ## repository.
[05:02] <Kyral> it can burn CDs, but so far its only burned the DVDs that I got with it when I ordered from Newegg
[05:02] <theine> CarlFK, alright, thanks
[05:02] <procrastinationn> ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
[05:02] <ompaul> procrastinationn, STOP
[05:02] <procrastinationn> ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
[05:02] <procrastinationn> ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
[05:02] <procrastinationn> ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security
[05:02] <procrastinationn> ## team.
[05:02] <brenner> procrastinationn: stop
[05:02] <procrastinationn>  deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[05:02] <procrastinationn> # deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[05:02] <procrastinationn> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted
[05:02] <Kyral> he can't
[05:02] <procrastinationn> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted
[05:02] <procrastinationn> # deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe
[05:02] <procrastinationn>  deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe
[05:02] <procrastinationn> deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main
[05:02] <Kyral> once a paste starts its out of his control
[05:02] <procrastinationn> sorry
[05:02] <procrastinationn> did not mean to
[05:02] <ericz> .....
[05:02] <Xtrom> does any one know if i could do an ubuntu network install?
[05:02] <erUSUL> procrastinationn: do not past here!!! see /topic use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/
[05:02] <Samhain> brenner, mythtv keeps crashing. segmentaion fault...whatever that is
[05:02] <procrastinationn> i know sorry
[05:02] <procrastinationn> my bad
[05:02] <CarlFK> Xtrom - you have come to the right place: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/LocalNet
[05:02] <zygis> procrastinationn, you're supposed to paste it in http://pastebin.ca/
[05:03] <procrastinationn> lol
[05:03] <brenner> procrastinationn: get rid of the marillat ones and then update
[05:03] <TiMiDo> !tell procrastinationn about paste
[05:03] <witchy2k1> I have just installed the OS and I cannot see the desktop, it is badly corrupted, do i need to edit a file somewhere?
[05:03] <Kyral> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827152047 <<---Actually thinking of getting this thing
[05:03] <brenner> s/ones/one
[05:03] <Xtrom> thanks carlfx
[05:03] <brenner> Samhain: you installed via the repo?
[05:03] <ompaul> Kyral, more for #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:04] <CarlFK> Xtrom - that page is pretty rough, so let me know if you need any help /msg me if I dont seem to be around
[05:04] <kennethlove> witchy2k1: i'd say that if you can't get to the desktop (and you think something's corrupted) to reinstall, 'cause something didn't work.
[05:04] <Kyral> ompaul, sorry
[05:04] <Stricklin> Nevermind, I figgered it out.
[05:04] <procrastinationn> sorry for pasting
[05:04] <brenner> witchy2k1: hang on...you can try some stuff first
[05:04] <ompaul> Kyral, na, don't be but you would get some natter about it there :)
[05:04] <Xtrom> ok
[05:05] <brenner> witchy2k1: is the desktop corrupted, or do you not even get to it?
[05:05] <witchy2k1> someone told me i had to edit someting called BASH
[05:05] <procrastinationn> brenner ok that worked but now it cant find the packages
[05:05] <Xtrom> thanks carlfk
[05:05] <brenner> procrastinationn: what are you looking for?
[05:05] <gr3ml> ok, i'm now thinking the problem isn't dvd drive dma.  i found a page that suggests my drive is operating fast enough.  what else could cause improper playback?
[05:05] <procrastinationn> w32codecs cant find
[05:05] <Kyral> Edit Bash...lol
[05:05] <witchy2k1> it loads to Desktop, but it isn't displayer properlly, it is unreadable
[05:05] <ompaul> apokryphos, whats that about? your blocks go when you log out?
[05:05] <Samhain> brenner, synaptic
[05:05] <Samhain> I installed from
[05:05] <witchy2k1> yes
[05:05] <Cl0neD> HI
[05:06] <brenner> witchy2k1: like the graphics are weird and stuff?
[05:06] <Kyral> You can't edit bash, directly
[05:06] <procrastinationn> it cant find w32codecs
[05:06] <witchy2k1> block vanish when i logout
[05:06] <Kyral> Bash is your shell :D
[05:06] <apokryphos> hm, weird
[05:06] <brenner> Samhain: then, yeah, you used the repo
[05:06] <witchy2k1> lolm, ok
[05:06] <Cl0neD> I HAVE A QUESTION
[05:06] <brenner> Samhain: weird...searched the forum?
[05:06] <Kyral> Cl0neD, no caps
[05:06] <ompaul> Cl0neD, you have caps lock on, no question about it
[05:06] <Cl0neD> i am a linux noob  and i dont know how can i put my linux computer in a workgroup
[05:06] <CarlFK> Cl0neD - the answer is: turn off your caps lock
[05:06] <Samhain> hrmmm, only one tv program pics up the cable and of course it freezes
[05:06] <brenner> procrastinationn: it's been taken out iirc
[05:06] <Samhain> hrmm
[05:06] <Kyral> The answer is 42!!!
[05:06] <brenner> procrastinationn: of the repos that is
[05:07] <procrastinationn> where do i get it
[05:07] <brenner> procrastinationn: you need to install a deb file instead
[05:07] <brenner> procrastinationn: /msg ubotu w32codecs
[05:07] <Seveas> procrastinationn, http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[05:07] <Kyral> uhoh
[05:07] <CarlFK> Cl0neD - im guessing you mean a windows network? (aka smb)
[05:07] <Kyral> wait...nani...
[05:07] <brenner> or there. :)
[05:07] <Kyral> +r....doesn't that oh whoops
[05:07] <Kyral> I confused +r with +m
[05:07] <Cl0neD> yes in a windows network
[05:08] <procrastinationn> hold on i put that in the command line
[05:08] <CarlFK> Cl0neD - if you want yoru linux box to be a windows server, you need to install the samba package
[05:08] <Kyral> Man...its been too long since I was an op...+m used to be my favorite mode for crowd control
[05:08] <procrastinationn> its downloading so
[05:08] <witchy2k1> can anyone point me in the direction of a fix for this?
[05:09] <brenner> witchy2k1: block vanish?
[05:09] <witchy2k1> when i log out, yes
[05:09] <Cl0neD> i want that i can see this linux computer see in the windows network and that i canput files on it
[05:09] <CarlFK> Cl0neD - if you just want to connect to a windows share and use it's files, umm... it is easy (i forget exactly how)
[05:09] <Kyral> samba!
[05:09] <Kyral> !samba
[05:09] <ubotu> methinks samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[05:09] <procrastinationn> seveas how do insall it ounce its done DL
[05:10] <bobbyd> hi
[05:10] <test34> Seveas, you filled a bug
[05:10] <CarlFK> Cl0neD - that sounds like you want a server: samba.
[05:10] <brenner> CarlFK: you're off your game for once. :)
[05:10] <Cl0neD> yes i want e server
[05:10] <Cl0neD> but i dont know on this machine going ubuntu
[05:10] <bobbyd> my backports repositories have stopped working, does anyone know if the URL has changed for them?
[05:10] <brenner> !tell procrastinationn about dpkg
[05:10] <CarlFK> brenner - I just woke up, and already lost my coffee cup 2x
[05:10] <procrastinationn> dpkg???
[05:10] <Seveas> procrastinationn, sudo dpkg -i w32codecs*.deb
[05:10] <Seveas> test34, yes
[05:11] <d33p>  how do I test if the 3d acceleration of my ati card is running in my recently installed ubuntu?
[05:11] <Kyral> !ati
[05:11] <ubotu> ati is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[05:11] <bobbyd> I get this error: http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found
[05:11] <Kyral> !bottreat
[05:11] <ubotu> Kyral: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[05:11] <procrastinationn> seveas do i do anything else
[05:11] <ompaul> !botsnack
[05:11] <ubotu> thanks ompaul :)
[05:11] <Kyral> damn, whats the command to give Ubotu a treat
[05:11] <Kyral> yah
[05:11] <brenner> d33p: glxinfo | grep rendering
[05:11] <Seveas> procrastinationn, yes, you should be happy it worked :)
[05:11] <ompaul> kyncani, :)
[05:11] <ompaul> Kyral,  :)
[05:12] <Kyral> good bot
[05:12] <procrastinationn> sweet thnx for tha help and sorry i pasted ppls
[05:12] <Cl0neD> must i install samba on linux or windows?
[05:12] <procrastinationn> let me test it out
[05:12] <Kyral> Read the links :P
[05:12] <witchy2k1> Help!, anyone?! ;-)
[05:12] <ompaul> procrastinationn, where will you paste in future? ;-)
[05:12] <bobbyd> Cl0neD, linux
[05:12] <Cl0neD> must i samba install on windows or linux (ubuntu)
[05:12] <procrastinationn> paste bin
[05:12] <Cl0neD> ok thx
[05:12] <Cl0neD> sry for doublepost
[05:12] <bobbyd> Cl0neD, don'r repeat
[05:12] <bobbyd> ok
[05:12] <Kyral> Okay, I go back to Love Hina
[05:12] <procrastinationn> i really did not mean to do that
[05:13] <erUSUL> witchy2k1: ask the cuestion...
[05:13] <brenner> witchy2k1: what's a block vanish?
[05:13] <CarlFK> Cl0neD - you should find samba in the synaptic package manager gui thingy
[05:13] <erUSUL> !tell witchy2k1 about help
[05:13] <witchy2k1> when i boot the OS my desktop is corrupted, how can i fix it?
[05:13] <witchy2k1> the screen is blocky
[05:13] <ompaul> procrastinationn, stop beating yourself up about it :)_
[05:13] <procrastinationn> ok still mp3's wont play
[05:13] <TiMiDo> witchy2k1, what do you mean by corrupted?
[05:13] <brenner> ah
[05:13] <TiMiDo> !tell procrastinationn about sound
[05:13] <brenner> witchy2k1: try reconfigging xorg
[05:13] <witchy2k1> i cannot see the desktop
[05:13] <u19809> what is the state of suspend2 in hoary ?
[05:13] <Cl0neD> is this link correct? http://us5.samba.org/samba/download/
[05:14] <TiMiDo> !tell witchy2k1 about xorg
[05:14] <procrastinationn> it says cant find decoders
[05:14] <witchy2k1> it is all large pixelated coloured blocks
[05:14] <brenner> witchy2k1: boot into recovery mode
[05:14] <brenner> witchy2k1: then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:14] <vengeful> what graphics card?
[05:14] <witchy2k1> 6600 GT
[05:14] <procrastinationn> where can i get xine
[05:14] <CarlFK> Cl0neD -yes, but that is the hard way, so no. ;)
[05:14] <erUSUL> witchy2k1: do what brenner sugested
[05:14] <vengeful> aye ;-)
[05:15] <procrastinationn> xine???
[05:15] <Cl0neD> i dont understand =)
[05:15] <brenner> witchy2k1: if you're unsure of any options...default is usally ok
[05:15] <procrastinationn> damn im starving
[05:15] <brenner> *usually
[05:15] <Kyral> procrastinationn, sudo apt-get install xine-ui
[05:15] <witchy2k1> ok, I'll give it a bash guys, thanks! :)
[05:15] <procrastinationn> thnx
[05:16] <Kyral> Give it a bash. LOL
[05:16] <ericz> !tell ericz about xine
[05:16] <CarlFK> Cl0neD, sudo apt-get install samba
[05:16] <procrastinationn> how can i save all these commands ??
[05:16] <Kyral> procrastinationn, its called saving to the mass in your head :P
[05:16] <brenner> procrastinationn: pen and paper. :)
[05:17] <procrastinationn> lol
[05:17] <Cl0neD> i dont find a link for samba
[05:17] <TiMiDo> !tell Cl0neD about samba
[05:17] <Kyral> Okay, note to us
[05:17] <Cl0neD> hello
[05:17] <Kyral> Revise the Beginners Guide again
[05:17] <Cl0neD> lol sorry
[05:17] <TiMiDo> Cl0neD, read the query
[05:17] <procrastinationn> kyral what do i do after i get xine
[05:17] <Kyral> assume they know nothing
[05:18] <Kyral> procrastinationn, what are you trying to do
[05:18] <procrastinationn> i just got xine
[05:18] <Kyral> and if I get short its because I'm being distracted from Love Hina
[05:18] <Xtrom> hi guys and gals, if i install ubuntu amd64 on my amd xp 2800 would it get to install?
[05:18] <TiMiDo> Cl0neD, the information should be there
[05:18] <Kyral> yah, and what do you wanna do? Watch Videos?
[05:18] <apokryphos> Seveas: you here?
[05:18] <TiMiDo> Xtrom, yeah,
[05:18] <Xtrom> it does?
[05:18] <brenner> procrastinationn: most apps add themselves to the apps menu...if not run it in terminal, or create a shortcut yourself using smeg
[05:18] <Seveas> apokryphos, no, I'm here
[05:18] <Cl0neD> but i dont know is samba a programm or what is it?
[05:19] <TiMiDo> Cl0neD, read the link
[05:19] <TiMiDo> there's the information there,
[05:19] <punkrockguy318> What happened to the boot configuration utility in Breezy?
[05:19] <apokryphos> Seveas: ban-list just got full; I removed a couple; any you could remove, you think?
[05:19] <Kyral> Okay, I'm going "off-duty"
[05:19] <Seveas> k
[05:19] <Cl0neD> which link?
[05:19] <Kyral> Anime calls!
[05:19] <TiMiDo> !tell Cl0neD about samba
[05:19] <TiMiDo> read what ubotu is saying
[05:19] <Xtrom> timido, what cpu do you have?
[05:19] <punkrockguy318> Is it even still there?
[05:19] <TiMiDo> k7
[05:19] <ompaul> Kyral, enjoy
[05:20] <procrastinationn> smeg ? how do i do that sorry
[05:20] <Xtrom> if i believe thats an old amd right timido?
[05:20] <TiMiDo> cpu MHz         : 1834.263
[05:20] <TiMiDo> there we go
[05:20] <Xtrom> ok
[05:20] <Xtrom> :)
[05:20] <brenner> procrastinationn: /msg ubotu smeg
[05:21] <punkrockguy318> How do I add an operating system to grub with Breezy?  Is the grub utility still there?
[05:21] <TiMiDo> punkrockguy318, grub new
[05:21] <Xtrom> ill try it on my 1000mhz athon
[05:21] <test34> can you use logrotate to rotate any files in a specified directory ?
[05:21] <apokryphos> ok, cool. Off for a bit now; back later.
[05:21] <TiMiDo> test34, huh?
[05:21] <punkrockguy318> TiMiDo, Has the grub gnome utility been taken out?
[05:22] <Xtrom> timido, do you speak spanish?
[05:22] <TiMiDo> punkrockguy318, not sure, i don't used nothing with graphics so i'm not sure
[05:22] <TiMiDo> i only used terminals
[05:22] <TiMiDo> a little Xtrom
[05:22] <Xtrom> ok :)
[05:22] <TiMiDo> getting there
[05:22] <Xtrom> your name means shy in english :)
[05:22] <test34> TiMiDo, because you need to specify the log filename, but I don't know the filename (the is many log files and new ones gets added)
[05:23] <TiMiDo> test34, cd /var/log
[05:23] <TiMiDo> check there
[05:23] <test34> TiMiDo, I know where my log files are, and the ones I want to rotate are not there
[05:23] <aminiboy> why can't i open my totem or gxine when i offline?
[05:24] <TiMiDo> do you get any errors aminiboy ?
[05:24] <TiMiDo> then check other directories
[05:24] <procrastinationn> mp3's work lol woo hoo
[05:24] <aminiboy> ya,some errors
[05:24] <TiMiDo> can u pasted them on #flood
[05:24] <TiMiDo> ?
[05:24] <delp> nalioth_wrkn:  are you there
[05:24] <procrastinationn> sweeeeeeet
[05:24] <test34> TiMiDo, do you know what logrotate do ?
[05:24] <delp> nalioth_wrkn:  are you there
[05:24] <procrastinationn> thnx for tha help ppls
[05:24] <aminiboy> oh,i have to offline.
[05:24] <TiMiDo> np procrastinationn
[05:25] <aminiboy> no errors when i connect internet.
[05:25] <TiMiDo> logrotate --help
[05:25] <BurgerMann> how do I display group members in shell?
[05:25] <zillot> hello
[05:26] <ivanoats> hello folks :-) Anyone have Ruby on Rails running on Hoary? I added the breezy backports, did an apt-get install rails and it worked o.k. but no "gem" ?
[05:26] <zillot> i just moved from windows xp to ubuntu, and i tried to copy the repositories from the ubuntuguide
[05:26] <zillot> but i get errors
[05:26] <TiMiDo> BurgerMann, look on /etc/passwd
[05:26] <zillot> can someone help please?
[05:26] <delp> anyone here have any experience with wallpapoz or any other program that lets you set a different image to each workspace?
[05:26] <kemik> zillot:  dont use ubuntuguide
[05:26] <shinu> zillot: what errors?
[05:26] <aminiboy> can i past my eroors here?
[05:26] <kemik> !ubuntuguide
[05:26] <ubotu> hmm... ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[05:26] <BurgerMann> TiMiDo: righto
[05:26] <kemik> aminiboy:  NO
[05:26] <zillot> well that it can't find most of the stuff
[05:26] <lazylark> !faq
[05:26] <ubotu> [faq]  The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/
[05:26] <kemik> !tell aminiboy about pastebin
[05:26] <zillot> don't use it?
[05:26] <zillot> then what can i use instead?
[05:26] <zillot> can i get a repo list please?
[05:26] <kemik> !tell zillot about repositories
[05:27] <kemik> see pm
[05:27] <samu2> is the default calculator that comes with ubuntu known to be funny when using stored variables?
[05:27] <aminiboy> where i should paste?
[05:27] <TiMiDo> on the link that ubotu give ya
[05:27] <kemik> aminiboy:  didnt ubotu tell yo ?
[05:27] <_jason> !pastebin
[05:27] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:27] <aminiboy> thanks
[05:28] <procrastinationn> im getting closer to never using windows
[05:28] <kemik> aminiboy:  check your pm's
[05:28] <delp> would you all pick a sony vaio over a toshiba satellite, if the satellite has a bigger proc. but weighs more?
[05:28] <brenner> samu2: it can use variables now?
[05:28] <brenner> samu2: hehe..disregard that....stupid question
[05:28] <ompaul> samu2,  I use it a lot but not with stored variables, what are you doing? are you talking cli or X ?
[05:28] <zillot> now my list is all messed up
[05:28] <kemik> delp:  that depends on your requirements
[05:28] <zillot> how do i get back to the original list?
[05:28] <vitriol> i've installed kubuntu but when i try to log in, it freezes while kde is loading
[05:29] <kemik> zillot:  edit your sources.list and add what ubotu told you
[05:29] <kemik> zillot:  edit/replace whatever
[05:29] <delp> kemik: i plan on using it for school stuff and some photo manipulation, my desktop will stay my main computer though
[05:29] <kemik> delp:  then i'd take the small one ...
[05:29] <brenner> vitriol: freezing usually indicates a display driver issue
[05:29] <kemik> if you gonna carry it around much etc
[05:29] <Ofe> I think I'd start seriously using Ubuntu if Warcraft 3 worked on it. :)
[05:29] <samu2> ompaul, i stored a number 0.160...... in memory R1. then i enter 0.412*R1 and get 11.something
[05:29] <vitriol> anybody know why kde might be freezing like that?
[05:29] <CarlFK> vitriol /join #kubuntu
[05:29] <vitriol> oh
[05:29] <samu2> which doesnt seem right to me
[05:29] <vitriol> ah thanks CarlFK
[05:29] <kemik> Ofe:  i think it works w/ cedega
[05:29] <delp> kemik: even if its a sony with a 1.7ghz and a toshiba with a 3.33ghz for the same price?
[05:30] <procrastinationn> sweet mp3
[05:30] <ompaul> samu2, cli ? bc?
[05:30] <samu2> if i enter the 0.160andsoon number manually i get the right number
[05:30] <kemik> delp:  well then... no the faster one if the price is the same
[05:30] <samu2> ompaul, the calculator in accessories
[05:30] <kemik> Ofe:  solved you speed-problmes?
[05:30] <delp> kemik: i think there is a 50.00 difference, maybe 75, but not much at all
[05:30] <procrastinationn> hey how can i ftp into my xbox ??
[05:31] <TiMiDo> procrastinationn, with gftp
[05:31] <TiMiDo> or with an ftp client
[05:31] <SaiBoth> ey people... got a litle problem: just after booting (when it asks for my user / pass) my keyboard mode is still qwerty, while when I'm in the system, it's correct, and it's azerty...
[05:31] <procrastinationn> easy to setup ?
[05:31] <kemik> jftp, lftp, gftp, nautilus etc etc
[05:31] <TiMiDo> gftp is a gUI client
[05:31] <TiMiDo> (:
[05:31] <zillot> i copied the whole thing
[05:31] <zillot> i still get errors
[05:31] <delp> kemik, thanks for the input
[05:31] <procrastinationn> gui is good
[05:31] <TiMiDo> zillot, pasted them on pastebin
[05:31] <TiMiDo> and we will help you
[05:31] <Cl0neD> where must i put in the samba file?
[05:31] <TiMiDo> Cl0neD, read the link that i give you
[05:31] <zillot> waht's a pastebin?
[05:31] <TiMiDo> everything is there
[05:32] <Cl0neD> i dont see a link
[05:32] <kemik> !tell zillot about pastebin
[05:32] <TiMiDo> !tell zillot about pastebin
[05:32] <Ofe> kemik: nope, still downloading stuff with synaptic. they time out when I surf the ubuntuforums at the same time, so now I only IRC and wait the downloads finish themselves.
[05:32] <TiMiDo> !tell Cl0neD about samba
[05:32] <kemik> Ofe:  aouch :<
[05:32] <Cl0neD> ???
[05:32] <TiMiDo> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[05:32] <zillot> ok
[05:32] <zillot> copied them
[05:33] <TiMiDo> and gives us the url,
[05:33] <zillot> i mean i uploaded them
[05:33] <zillot> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2693
[05:33] <SaiBoth> ey people... got a litle problem: just after booting (when it asks for my user / pass) my keyboard mode is still qwerty, while when I'm in the system, it's correct, and it's azerty...
[05:33] <procrastinationn> ubuntu is sweeeet
[05:33] <TiMiDo> SaiBoth, do sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[05:33] <test34> How can you rotate all log files in a specified directory without having to tell logrotate each filenames ?
[05:33] <TiMiDo> zillot, u forgot the error
[05:33] <zillot> ah
[05:34] <Cl0neD> can it be that this file no executable file is?
[05:34] <TiMiDo> Cl0neD, dude read that url and then ask you're question
[05:34] <TiMiDo> and we will answer you
[05:34] <ompaul> samu2, just tested that, no problems there  perhaps you hit divide?
[05:34] <aminiboy> why can't i use poff -a failed?
[05:34] <Cl0neD> i am reading this faq
[05:34] <zillot> there
[05:34] <ompaul> samu2, some other key doh?
[05:34] <TiMiDo> aminiboy, any errors?
[05:34] <zillot> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2694
[05:34] <TiMiDo> ok
[05:34] <procrastinationn> anyone heard of XBC??
[05:34] <ompaul> samu2, .16 and .412?
[05:34] <zillot> opps, should've uploaded it as a pic
[05:35] <aminiboy>  /usr/bin/poff: /bin/kill failed.  None stopped.
[05:35] <TiMiDo> zillot, remove this line http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates/universe Packages
[05:35] <TiMiDo> on you're /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:35] <zillot> ok
[05:35] <TiMiDo> and then apt-get update
[05:35] <Cl0neD> i dont know this sentences
[05:35] <Cl0neD> i dont understand
[05:35] <procrastinationn> ok i need help again,i want to burn cdr's and dvd's
[05:36] <Cl0neD> Installing samba is really simple, just type
[05:36] <Cl0neD>     sudo apt-get update
[05:36] <Cl0neD>     sudo apt-get install samba
[05:36] <TiMiDo> get a dictionary Cl0neD
[05:36] <zillot> timido
[05:36] <zillot> which one?
[05:36] <TiMiDo> then do what it says there, what's so hard about it,
[05:36] <zillot> i have a few
[05:36] <TiMiDo> http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates/universe Packages
[05:36] <Cl0neD> where must i tip that?
[05:36] <zillot> remove it everywhere?
[05:36] <aminiboy> when i run poff -a,it just get the errors /usr/bin/poff: /bin/kill failed.  None stopped.
[05:36] <TiMiDo> Cl0neD, in you're terminal
[05:36] <TiMiDo> zillot, hold up
[05:36] <samu2> ompaul, i just did a simple calculation first to get 0.160890357 then i pressed Sto and chose R1. then i clear. enter 0.412* from the keyboard then press Rcl and chose R1 again. press = and i get 11.42734736
[05:37] <zillot> ok
[05:37] <Cl0neD> omg linux is not easy
[05:37] <TiMiDo> who tell you it was easy?
[05:37] <procrastinationn> lol
[05:37] <ericz> it's not extremely difficult either
[05:38] <TiMiDo> zillot, remove the lines from the error,
[05:38] <procrastinationn> just difficult
[05:38] <procrastinationn> lol
[05:38] <procrastinationn> jk
[05:38] <TiMiDo> the security and the archive
[05:38] <Cl0neD> i never work with linux
[05:38] <TiMiDo> well star reading, then Cl0neD
[05:38] <Cl0neD> i wanzt to learn it
[05:38] <procrastinationn> cloned me either only had ubuntu for a week
[05:38] <zillot> TiMiDo, you mean everywhere they appear?
[05:38] <brenner> procrastinationn: you can use nautilus..there's other apps out there if you want something more
[05:38] <zillot> cuz they appear more than once
[05:38] <TiMiDo> yeah
[05:38] <zillot> then again. i get a few errors
[05:38] <ompaul> samu2, doing it exactly as you have told me to I get 0.066286827
[05:39] <vengeful> i have ubuntu because most other distros seem to hate my laptop :-)
[05:39] <procrastinationn> brenner do i just wget nautilus???
[05:39] <TiMiDo> so when u deleted those lines do apt-get update and pasted the other error, on the pastebin
[05:39] <ericz> nautilus is a file browser
[05:39] <brenner> e.g. gnomebaker
[05:39] <zillot> but i don't have anything left if i remove those!
[05:39] <samu2> ompaul, but you didnt do it EXACTLY like me. because you dont know what calculation got me 0.160... in the first place.
[05:39] <ompaul> samu2, care to join #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:39] <TiMiDo> ok
[05:39] <TiMiDo> no more errors?
[05:39] <TiMiDo> zillot, ?
[05:40] <samu2> ompaul, so it must be my Sto that goes wrong
[05:40] <brenner> procrastinationn: what ericz said....it's already installed ... places -> computer -> go -> cd/dvd creator
[05:40] <zillot> i only got one package left!
[05:40] <zillot> if i remove them all
[05:40] <zillot> and that's the extra
[05:40] <TiMiDo> don't
[05:40] <ompaul> samu2, however I can put that number in storage
[05:40] <TiMiDo> just let me see the other error,
[05:40] <aminiboy> TiMiDO,my totem errors http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2695
[05:40] <Cl0neD> sorry timido but where do i find the terminal?
[05:40] <Cl0neD> i really dont know
[05:40] <procrastinationn> lol sorry brenner
[05:40] <TiMiDo> Cl0neD, are you using gnome?
[05:40] <zillot> well i removed them all
[05:40] <zillot> now i don't have errors at all :(
[05:40] <brenner> procrastinationn: don't be
[05:40] <Cl0neD> yes
[05:40] <TiMiDo> aminiboy, that's a bug did you report it?
[05:41] <procrastinationn> sorry if im driving u guys nuts
[05:41] <aminiboy> no
[05:41] <samu2> ompaul, i get 11.4 no matter what i do
[05:41] <TiMiDo> well report the bug, dude,
[05:41] <glick> scuse me how do i check the revision history of a file in cvs?
[05:41] <ompaul> samu2, pm me this is not really channel material and if you have several steps I am willing to try it
[05:41] <zillot> TiMiDo, isn't there a place with a good repo. list i can copy and use?
[05:41] <ericz> can anyone tell me how to like kick a user off or disconnect them when they connect to remote desktop?
[05:41] <TiMiDo> zillot, not sure
[05:41] <aminiboy> where to report it?and the gxine get the same errors.
[05:41] <BurgerMann> I don't get it. I've added my self to a new group, chgrp'ed a directory and chmodded it 770. But still I haven't got permission..... frustrating! :(
[05:42] <zillot> cuz now all i have is that extra
[05:42] <zillot> nothing more
[05:42] <TiMiDo> aminiboy, hmmm hold up
[05:42] <TiMiDo> !tell aminiboy about bug
[05:42] <brenner> procrastinationn: what _is_ XBC btw?
[05:42] <TiMiDo> ericz, do w
[05:42] <zillot> TiMiDo, can't you upload your list and i'll just copy it and save it as mine?
[05:42] <TiMiDo> and see the user and the pid and kill the pid
[05:43] <zillot> please
[05:43] <TiMiDo> i have Hoary
[05:43] <zillot> i have hoary too
[05:43] <TiMiDo> ok
[05:43] <procrastinationn> i use it on windows for xbox tunnelling
[05:43] <ericz> timido, if someone connects and i give them control and they like go try to view /etc/passwd or shut the computer down or delete stuff... how can i kick them off quick before they do anything?
[05:43] <ericz> like a keystroke or something
[05:43] <TiMiDo> zillot, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2697
[05:43] <zillot> thanx!
[05:44] <Sonny_Wertzik> im looking for aan app that will rename all my mp3's with album-artist-track all at once...can someone recommend a good app?
[05:44] <TiMiDo> with w and see the pid and kill him
[05:44] <zillot> can i copy and use it as it is?
[05:44] <ericz> if he has control i may not be able to get to terminal then w
[05:44] <TiMiDo> if u want
[05:44] <ericz> then all that...
[05:44] <TiMiDo> hold u
[05:44] <TiMiDo> p
[05:44] <zillot> thanx
[05:44] <zillot> ok
[05:44] <Cl0neD> is there nbo terminal in ubuntu?
[05:44] <Cl0neD> with gnome?
[05:45] <brenner> Sonny_Wertzik: rythmbox maybe?  has a find info function iirc
[05:45] <procrastinationn> brenner you heard of kai its supports xbox game cube and ps2
[05:45] <procrastinationn> i just dont know how to get it
[05:45] <aminiboy> i can't open http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/report.cgi
[05:45] <brenner> procrastinationn: emulator?
[05:45] <zillot> TiMiDo, i get errors again when i copy your list
[05:45] <Sonny_Wertzik> brenner, hmmm i didnt see that ..ill check again
[05:45] <TiMiDo> hmmm
[05:45] <TiMiDo> give me a second ericz
[05:46] <sitandspin> Can someone help me or point me in the right direction.  I'm running this box at work for our webserver and had to change the CD-Rom drive out.  now i get a kernal panic when the new one is plugged in.  But when i put the old drive back and boot up everything is fine.  Does ubuntu not recognize new hardware?
[05:46] <procrastinationn> not an emulator i think could be its just so i can play against ppl online
[05:46] <zillot> can someone with a good working repo list can please upload or copy it somewhere so i can use it? i get alot of errors
[05:47] <Sonny_Wertzik> brenner, hmmm ya ok...thats not exactly what i was looking for tho
[05:47] <arjen> Sonny_Wertzik, I think what you're looking for is EasyTAG.
[05:47] <procrastinationn> i would also like something for p2p
[05:47] <brenner> procrastinationn: no. no clue, sorry.
[05:48] <brenner> zillot: used ubotu's one yet?
[05:48] <ericz> p2p, limewire
[05:48] <procrastinationn> no worries brenner still got windows for that
[05:48] <Sonny_Wertzik> arjen, does that tap into the free CDDB or whatever its called to grab some album names...some of mine are missing
[05:48] <glick> hey in gnome you can create a network place on your desktop to a network share, is there anyway that i can have an icon on my desktop that will open a console ssh connection with a remote server and i wont have to put in the password?
[05:48] <Cl0neD> easy i will install windows xp.............. but thx for help
[05:49] <procrastinationn> brenner what about p2p????
[05:49] <arjen> Sonny_Wertzik, it has a lookup function that you can use for that.
[05:49] <ericz> you can use limewire for p2p
[05:49] <brenner> procrastinationn: ericz helped you there.
[05:49] <glick> is that possible?
[05:49] <procrastinationn> how do i get it ???
[05:49] <TiMiDo> ericz, if you do w as root it will show
[05:49] <TiMiDo> all the users running
[05:49] <glick> i want to click an icon on my desktop that connects me to a cosole ssh shell on a remote host
[05:49] <glick> is that possible in ubuntu?
[05:49] <sitandspin> Can someone help me or point me in the right direction.  I'm running this box at work for our webserver and had to change the CD-Rom drive out.  now i get a kernal panic when the new one is plugged in.  But when i put the old drive back and boot up everything is fine.  Does ubuntu not recognize new hardware?
[05:49] <Sonny_Wertzik> arjen, cool thanks...have you ever heard of cantus?
[05:50] <ericz> procrastination, i had to do a lot to get limewire running
[05:50] <TiMiDo> sitandspin, don't repeat
[05:50] <kemik> sitandspin:  remove your old cdrom module
[05:50] <sitandspin> no one answered
[05:50] <sitandspin> i did'
[05:50] <TiMiDo> that doesn't mean you have to repeat
[05:50] <procrastinationn> erics damn
[05:50] <ericz> java runtime environment, convert a limewire rpm to deb from alien...
[05:50] <Fr3llD> hi there..
[05:50] <TiMiDo> hi Fr3llD
[05:50] <procrastinationn> lol what ericz
[05:50] <arjen> Sonny_Wertzik, sorry can't say that I have. Is that a similar program?
[05:50] <kemik> sitandspin:  theres no "cdrom" when you do 'lsmod' ?
[05:50] <Fr3llD> yoho
[05:50] <sitandspin> i removed the old cd rom, but when the newone is in it won't boot
[05:50] <ericz> can't really explain
[05:51] <brenner> glick: would have something to do with adding a launcher to ~/Desktop i'd assume....would probably still require a password though
[05:51] <sitandspin> no there is
[05:51] <Sonny_Wertzik> arjen, yes it is and its in my synaptic PM list
[05:51] <Fr3llD> can some1 point me to some docu to change the ubuntu desktop for other users? i'd like an desktop with almost no options..
[05:52] <sitandspin> i get the same thing when i try and connect the front panel usb
[05:52] <procrastinationn> ericz no worries
[05:52] <sitandspin> kernal panic
[05:52] <kemik> sitandspin: id guess you have to remove that module and add the one for your new cdrom
[05:52] <Sonny_Wertzik> arjen, but im looking for the best app to get it done fast
[05:52] <sitandspin> it's like it can't recognize new hardware
[05:52] <crtr> how to open .ram ?
[05:52] <Whistler> with breezy update boot editor is gone
[05:52] <Whistler> is this a bug?
[05:52] <sitandspin> even with hardware that was never installed?
[05:52] <Fr3llD> sitandspin.. is that from the doom generation?
[05:52] <TiMiDo> crtr, file file
[05:52] <sitandspin> doom?
[05:52] <delp> is there any type of program similiar to photoshop that runs on linux?
[05:52] <arjen> Sonny,
[05:53] <TiMiDo> delp, gimp,
[05:53] <kemik> delp:  the gimp
[05:53] <brenner> delp: gimp w/ gimpshop
[05:53] <P229> delp: the gimp, sorta
[05:53] <delp> thank you guys
[05:53] <Fr3llD> yeah.. see the movie doom generation.. is has a nice "sit and spin" quote..
[05:53] <arjen> Sonny_Wertzik, I know that EasyTAG is pretty good at what you want, capable of doing all your files at once.
[05:53] <P229> brenner: gimpshop?
[05:53] <sitandspin> no that's the website... middle finger up "sit and spin" to people that are annoying
[05:53] <procrastinationn> hey i just downloaded amule can anyone give me advice
[05:54] <brenner> P229: yep..someone made it more photoshop-like
[05:54] <brenner> iirc
[05:54] <sitandspin> anyways... so if i get the error even on new hardware like front panel usb hookup... what does this mean? i have to enable new hardware detection?  because i can't even boot with it plugged in
[05:54] <Sonny_Wertzik> arjen, thanx man im looking at it now on freshmeat...i think this is what im looking for. thank you-
[05:55] <kemik> sitandspin:  think ive told you 2x already
[05:55] <P229> brenner: interesting
[05:55] <procrastinationn> erics i just got amule and it works sweet
[05:55] <ericz> great
[05:55] <zillot> how do i stop the window animations?
[05:55] <ericz> saves me a lot of explaining about limewire
[05:55] <kemik> sitandspin:  can you boot with none of the devices pluggedin ?
[05:56] <arjen> Sonny_Wertzik, you're welcome. I believe it's in the repositories though, so you could install it with synaptic.
[05:56] <sitandspin> yes, but when i try and boot with something that is brand new it has issues
[05:56] <ilba7r> So am going to buy a notebook and was wondering how to find information on notebook hardware support so i can decide which one to buy. Am  now leaning tword toshiba ao any ideas
[05:56] <kemik> sitandspin:  well, try removing the old module
[05:56] <brenner> !tell ilba7r about hardware
[05:56] <Sonny_Wertzik> arjen, hehe ya..i always check repos first...i just wanted to get a look at it hehehe
[05:56] <sitandspin> there isn't one installed for the usb front panel
[05:56] <ilba7r> thanx brenner
[05:57] <ericz> anyone ever install kannel?
[05:57] <brenner> ilba7r: ibms are nice iirc
[05:57] <CarlFK> ilba7r - tip: walmart sells laptops for $500
[05:57] <kemik> sitandspin:  the _old_ module
[05:57] <zillot> how do i stop the window animations? i mean the ones when i maximize and minimize windows
[05:57] <kemik> sitandspin:  the one you still had in "lsmod"
[05:57] <TiMiDo> walmart sucks a$$
[05:57] <Dalkus> what's the redo key in vim ?
[05:57] <arjen> Sonny_Wertzik, okay :-) Have fun with it.
[05:57] <ilba7r> carlFk If they have good brand i will go for it am through with junk notebooks
[05:57] <CarlFK> TiMiDo - sure, but Ill suck it up if I can save $100
[05:57] <ilba7r> brenner how about sony and toshiba?
[05:57] <kemik> Dalkus:  ^R
[05:58] <Dalkus> ty
[05:58] <sitandspin> i don't even know that's its called in lsmod for the front panel usb ...
[05:58] <TiMiDo> big time
[05:58] <CarlFK> ilba7r - from what I hear, the only "good laptop brand" is ibm
[05:58] <sitandspin> the cd-rom i get, the front panel usb i don't
[05:58] <witchy2k1> Hi guys I was here earlier with a problem about my Desktop not displaying properlly (verticle lines and coloured blocks), I was told to reconfigure it, I have but I still have the problem
[05:58] <kemik> sitandspin:  dont unload the usbmodule
[05:59] <CarlFK> dont' anyone get a toshiba 6100 - I have one, the smoke came out, and 2 techs have told me that model is considerd the lemon of laptops
[05:59] <brenner> ilba7r: not sure of toshiba...sony's apparently steer more towards looks rather than reliability...i'd steer clear of compaqs if you want good h/ware support...i'm having a bit of trouble with mine
[05:59] <ilba7r> CarlFk thanx for the tip i have a good offer for an IBM notebook
[05:59] <kemik> sitandspin:  im telling you to try unloading the old driver for your OLD cdrom the one youve discarded
[05:59] <sitandspin> i wasn't planning to
[05:59] <ilba7r> brenner I hate compaq thats my old notebook and frankly it was fried in less then a year so no more hp junk for me
[05:59] <sitandspin> heh ok, i get that part.... but the same kernal panic happens whgen i try and connect a new front panel usb to the MB and boot up
[05:59] <brenner> ilba7r: go for ibm....i've always heard they're tough as.
[06:00] <CarlFK> ilba7r - I just got an old ibm a21m, it has a light at the top of the lcd to light up the keyboard - too cool
[06:00] <brenner> but getting OT. :)
[06:00] <Tomcat_> I like HP, but their hardware is cheap.
[06:00] <sitandspin> so this error happens when ever new HD is add'd
[06:00] <witchy2k1> It told me that it could find my hardware but that it didn't have a useable setup
[06:00] <Tomcat_> IBM is probably a good idea, if you can check beforehand how well Ubuntu will work.
[06:00] <ilba7r> great guys thanks for the tips
[06:00] <kemik> sitandspin:  using hoary ?
[06:00] <ilba7r> I can check with the live cd
[06:00] <sitandspin> 5.04
[06:00] <kemik> mmh
[06:00] <Cryptid> I have get LANG=en_US error while trying to install games using cedega
[06:00] <kemik> well... bugger i dunno
[06:00] <brenner> CarlFK: you get your money back?
[06:00] <CarlFK> how can I install snmpwalk?
[06:01] <kemik> try the forums or ask again in some hours
[06:01] <CarlFK> brenner - out of warenty
[06:01] <CarlFK> brenner - so no.
[06:01] <sitandspin> aight thanks for the time.
[06:01] <brenner> ilba7r: linux-laptops.net is a good resource too (not sure if that's the right URL)
[06:01] <brenner> CarlFK: bummer
[06:02] <CarlFK> brenner - well, I got good use out of it when I had it so I am not too bitter
[06:02] <CarlFK> brenner - but I learned that I should search the web before I buy, not after I have problems ;)
[06:02] <ilba7r> i will search for it brenner thank you all guys time for some research now take care all
[06:02] <ericz> procrastinationn: amule is pretty nice...
[06:02] <brenner> CarlFK: yes...i should have searched more to...i was suckered in by a promo
[06:03] <narkceh> I tried to install gstreamer0.8-plugins but i got error: http://pastebin.com/379678 | This is my breezy sources.list is it ok? http://pastebin.com/379674
[06:03] <afd_> hi guys! I've just installed ubuntu 5.0.4 on my comp and I can't get it to play sound. I have an onboard via and a sblaster audigy 2. I'm trying to play with rhytmbox an ogg files
[06:03] <afd_> Any idea where I should look to get some sound?
[06:03] <Determinist> good evening lads
[06:04] <kemik> afd_:  got the correct decoders?
[06:04] <afd_> ogg :)
[06:04] <brenner> afd_: do you get system sounds?
[06:04] <afd_> brenner: no
[06:04] <afd_> I've tried the test from the multimedia system switcher, but I can't get it
[06:04] <brenner> afd_: so you don't get the login music?
[06:05] <afd_> neither from the ubuntu hardware thingy
[06:05] <Seveas> afd_, in amixer, unmute the external amp or audigy something
[06:05] <afd_> breener: I don't think so
[06:05] <Seveas> alsamixer I mean
[06:05] <aizatto> has anyone able to install ibm-acpi 0.11 on breezy?
[06:05] <Seveas> narkceh, sources look ok, but a but incomplete
[06:06] <adjacent> i need someone to help me confirm a bug in breezy... libapache2-mod-python with python-weblib installed generates an error about not being able to locate the web module
[06:06] <Seveas> narkceh, dpkg -P libmpcdec
[06:06] <adjacent> this has broken some of my web apps, and im in a tight spot till i can find a fix. will someone check this on another breezy box?
[06:06] <ui> does somebody knows how to open a .7z file?
[06:06] <Seveas> adjacent, can you be a bit more detailed about how to trigger it
[06:07] <Pickle_Weasel> i am trying to conver mpc files into mp3, how would i go about doing this?
[06:07] <Pickle_Weasel> convert&
[06:07] <ericz> 7z, winrar can open that i think
[06:07] <narkceh> Seveas: http://pastebin.com/379684
[06:07] <adjacent> Seveas: i think python -m web would show it if it was working properly
[06:07] <Pickle_Weasel> ui, 7z is from a program called 7zip, google it
[06:07] <procrastinationn> how do i use ssh???
[06:07] <ericz> winrar can open 7z though cant it?
[06:07] <Pickle_Weasel> !ssh
[06:07] <flodine> ? will i have to update to breezy in due time
[06:07] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ssh is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SSHHowto
[06:08] <Pickle_Weasel> winrar can open 7z files i think, too
[06:08] <Seveas> procrastinationn, ssh addres_of_destination _here
[06:08] <CarlFK> Pickle_Weasel - mencoder
[06:08] <Pickle_Weasel> thank you
[06:08] <brenner> Pickle_Weasel: does winrar have a linux version?
[06:08] <procrastinationn> seveas ok
[06:08] <ericz> theres a command line tool "rar" for linux
[06:09] <Bateau_> how can i install a SMTP server?
[06:09] <Pickle_Weasel> brenner, no, but you can emulate it quite nicely in wine
[06:09] <Seveas> narkceh, put the output of 'apt-cache depends python-musepack' on the pastebin
[06:09] <brenner> ericz: er, but that ain't winrar...
[06:09] <narkceh> Seveas: i got it removed but what can i do now when i cant install it
[06:09] <ericz> it opens .rar files
[06:09] <Ungy_> Any help on what this error message is it is in my syslog and occurs when I attempt to mount to my debian sarge music sharesmbfs: mount_data version 1919251317 is not supported
[06:09] <narkceh> python-musepack Depends: libc6 Depends: libmpcdec Depends: python
[06:09] <brenner> Pickle_Weasel: sounds like a lot of effort....why not use ericz's method?
[06:10] <nalioth> ericz: unrar-nonfree
[06:10] <Pickle_Weasel> indeed, it would be better, i'm not saying use WinRAR, i'm saying it works
[06:10] <Pickle_Weasel> =)
[06:10] <adjacent> Seveas: if you have a sec, this is the error log im recieving from that python mod in breezy. http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2696
[06:10] <Seveas> adjacent, dennis@blackbird ~ $ python -m pyweblib
[06:10] <Seveas> python: module pyweblib has no associated file
[06:10] <Seveas> narkceh, what did you remove?
[06:11] <narkceh> I used apt-get -f install
[06:11] <afd_> Seveas: I did the alsamixer, I'm testing sound from the multimedia systems selector, I can't get sound. How can I choose which card gnome will use?
[06:11] <Seveas> adjacent, it's called pyweblib according to dpkg -L
[06:11] <narkceh> then it removed Removing gstreamer0.8-plugins ...
[06:11] <narkceh> Removing gstreamer0.8-musepack ...
[06:11] <brenner> Pickle_Weasel: no disrespect intended
[06:11] <Seveas> /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/pyweblib
[06:11] <Pickle_Weasel> ^.^
[06:12] <Seveas> afd_, I'm an alsa noob, try #alsa or ping crimsun whrn he's in here
[06:13] <narkceh> Seveas: any idea how i can install those and whats wrong with those packages?
[06:13] <Seveas> I just monkey-repeated the problem with audigy cards that I know
[06:13] <nalioth> Seveas: oh my favorite heart! you a n00b?
[06:13] <Seveas> narkceh, put the output of 'apt-cache depends python-musepack' on the pastebin <--
[06:13] <adjacent> blah. im still stuck. Seveas, are you saying that its not a bug in the breezy install? even python -m pyweblib shows no file associated. even with python-weblib installed...
[06:13] <Seveas> nalioth, if it comes to alsa: yes
[06:13] <narkceh> Seveas: apt-cache depends python-musepack
[06:13] <Seveas> adjacent, import pyweblib works fine...
[06:14] <narkceh> Seveas: oops
[06:14] <narkceh> Seveas: http://pastebin.com/379686
[06:14] <christian-> I downloaded divx linux from divx.com and installed it, but I still can't view my backup movies.
[06:14] <Pickle_Weasel> hmm, mencoder seems to be a movie encoder, what's an audio converter program?
[06:14] <nalioth> ubotu: tell christian- about w32codecs
[06:14] <nalioth> Pickle_Weasel: there are several
[06:14] <mercurus> ah ha ! done it ...
[06:15] <Pickle_Weasel> i'd like to convert mpc to mp3,  what should i use?
[06:15] <rata> christian-, download w32codecs
[06:15] <brenner> Pickle_Weasel: audacity iirc
[06:15] <christian-> Thanks nalioth
[06:15] <nalioth> brenner: audacity is not a converter, per se
[06:15] <CarlFK> Pickle_Weasel - mencoder does all sorts of stuff, including  stuff to mp3
[06:15] <brenner> never used it though
[06:15] <rata> christian-, form the same repositoris you can download mplayer (do you know whico one?)
[06:15] <Determinist> what exactly is a modular xorg server?
[06:15] <Pickle_Weasel> does it? hmm
[06:15] <sKaBoy> Pickle_Weasel, try soundconverter
[06:16] <nalioth> rata: there are no more repos with w32codecs or java
[06:16] <CarlFK> Pickle_Weasel - look at the -ai? and -ao options
[06:16] <brenner> nalioth: i guess i didn't remember correctly...
[06:16] <Pickle_Weasel> ok
[06:16] <rata> nalioth, yes, the one from debian marillat
[06:16] <Seveas> narkceh, there's your answer: you can;t have python-musepack and gstreamer0.8-plugins installed at the same time
[06:16] <rata> nacer, it is pretty nice
[06:16] <nalioth> rata: please do not send people to marillat
[06:16] <CarlFK> Pickle_Weasel - and if all else failes /join #mplayer - they are about as nice as #ubuntu
[06:16] <Pickle_Weasel> ok, thank you ^.^
[06:16] <rata> nalioth, why ?
[06:17] <rata> nacer, sorry :)
[06:17] <christian-> rata, mplayer ?
[06:17] <narkceh> Seveas: oh D:
[06:17] <nalioth> rata: marillat repos WILL kill ubuntu
[06:17] <narkceh> Seveas: thanks
[06:17] <rata> nalioth, why do you say that ?
[06:17] <brenner> nalioth: er, Seveas posted a marillat link a while ago..
[06:17] <Determinist> Seveas, breezy is so lovely :)
[06:17] <nalioth> rata: because the software is different enough between debian (whom marillat is meant for) and ubuntu that ubuntu will break on it
[06:18] <narkceh> Seveas: I tried to install quod libet but it said Quod Libet requires PyGSt 0.8.1.
[06:18] <brenner> so they must be ok if the head guru says so
[06:18] <nalioth> brenner: what did he point to?
[06:18] <nalioth> brenner: they are not
[06:18] <narkceh> Seveas: Isn't that gstreamer0.8-plugins?
 procrastinationn, http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[06:18] <Seveas> nalioth, w32codecs from marillat are fine on all ubuntu versions now and in the future
[06:18] <christian-> rata, mplayer? Is that another video program like, say, Totem or Quicktime ?
[06:18] <christian-> !mplayer
[06:18] <Seveas> but that's the only package for which this holds
[06:18] <ubotu> mplayer is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto.  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[06:19] <nalioth> brenner: w32codecs are platform independent
[06:19] <narkceh> !quod libet
[06:19] <ubotu> narkceh: I give up, what is it?
[06:19] <brenner> ooh, conflict of interests :)
[06:19] <nalioth> brenner: other things are death to ubuntu
[06:19] <rata> nalioth, are you really sure they are too different ?
[06:19] <narkceh> !quodlibet
[06:19] <ubotu> narkceh: Syntax error in line 1
[06:19] <narkceh> wtf
[06:19] <Seveas> rata, yes
[06:19] <Seveas> mayhem may happen
[06:19] <nalioth> brenner: you can ask ubotu about !w32codecs and !javadeb and see what he has to say
[06:19] <rata> christian-, yes
[06:19] <narkceh> !quodlibet
[06:19] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, narkceh
[06:19] <Determinist> Seveas, are there backports repos for breezy that wouldnt break anything?
[06:19] <Seveas> narkceh, quod libet afaik works properly only in breezy
[06:19] <rata> Seveas, but to use w32codecs too ??
[06:20] <nalioth> Determinist: breezy isnt finished yet
[06:20] <nalioth> Determinist: you have to have dapper drake in production to have backports from it
[06:20] <narkceh> Seveas: I have breezy
[06:20] <Seveas> Determinist, no
[06:20] <BurgerMann> Can someone help me with users, groups and file permissions? I know the elementrary but certain things makes me lost.
[06:20] <nalioth> rata: see what i said to brenner above re w32
[06:20] <shivi> I need to install this http://www.gnu.org/software/ggradebook/ggradebook.html
[06:20] <shivi> I am new to linux
[06:20] <shivi> any help
[06:20] <Determinist> i see, and would using hoary's backports be a good idea? i need w32codecs and a buncha other things
[06:20] <Seveas> rata, w32codecs are fine from marillat
[06:20] <nalioth> shivi: ask your question and quit prodding
[06:21] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Determinist about w32codecs
[06:21] <CarlFK> shivi - are you a techer?
[06:21] <P229> BurgerMann: have a specific question/
[06:21] <shivi> ya
[06:21] <P229> ?
[06:21] <CarlFK> shivi - have you heard of edubuntu?
[06:21] <shivi> I have that
[06:21] <shivi> but this is not in that
[06:21] <CarlFK> k - just checking
[06:21] <narkceh> Seveas: any ideas how to update that and I have breezy
[06:21] <rata> Seveas, nalioth : :) I was telling him that he con download w32codecs from there :)
[06:21] <Determinist> thanks nalioth
[06:21] <Seveas> narkceh, file a bug against python-musepack
[06:22] <Seveas> its dependencies are wrong
[06:22] <nalioth> shivi: download the source for gradebook and meet me in #kubuntu-offtopic
[06:22] <narkceh> Seveas: so i cant do nothing?
[06:22] <BurgerMann> p229, yah. I made a new group. Added my user to it. Made a dir. Chowned it to root, chgrp'ed my group and finally chmoded it 770. Now I can't enter it.
[06:22] <GnuKemist> narkceh, haven't upgraded to Breezy yet...  from 1 to 10, how do you grade it?
[06:22] <Ungy_> Any help on what this error message is it is in my syslog and occurs when I attempt to mount to my debian sarge music sharesmbfs: mount_data version 1919251317 is not supported
[06:22] <Seveas> narkceh, well, you can download the sources, make a patch and submit the patch :)
[06:22] <brenner> nalioth: i have those links bookmarked from the last time you told me
[06:23] <shivi> done
[06:23] <BurgerMann> P229: It seems it doesn't know that I'm in the group that owns the dir.
[06:23] <christian-> Hrmpf, the ubuntu wiki told me to " "sudo apt-get install mplayer-586" for the mplayer-586 version."
[06:23] <christian-> But that doesn't work :(
[06:23] <narkceh> GnuKemist: I have upgraded to breezy
[06:23] <TiMiDo> !tell christian- about mplayer
[06:23] <henriksson> need help... anyone..
[06:23] <christian-> should I just google for it and pray ?
[06:23] <TiMiDo> henriksson, ask
[06:23] <GnuKemist> narkceh, how do you grade it?
[06:23] <P229> BurgerMann: what did you change your group to?
[06:23] <TiMiDo> christian-, i will help you
[06:23] <christian-> TiMiDo, I did that.
[06:24] <TiMiDo> ok,
[06:24] <henriksson> got some problems with my cd-write
[06:24] <TiMiDo> did u follow the, direction that give u?
[06:24] <BurgerMann> p229, a group called web-admin
[06:24] <henriksson> *cd-writer
[06:24] <christian-> That's the guide that ain't working :(
[06:24] <Seveas> christian-, 'doesn't work' is not too descriptive
[06:24] <TiMiDo> well mines worked,
[06:24] <narkceh> GnuKemist: 10
[06:24] <TiMiDo> and i fllow those steps
[06:24] <TiMiDo> *follow
[06:24] <christian-> TiMiDo, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto <- it takes me there
[06:24] <Seveas> christian-, paste the error resulting from 'apt-get install mplayer-686
[06:24] <Seveas> on the pastebin i mean
[06:24] <P229> BurgerMann: did you change the group ownership of the directory?
[06:24] <GnuKemist> narkceh, wow...  and you just upgrade it as per the wiki or did a complete re-install?
[06:24] <christian-> Seveas, E: Couldn't find package mplayer-586
[06:24] <BurgerMann> P229: yep.
[06:24] <Seveas> christian-, enable multiverse
[06:25] <Seveas> !tell christian- about sources
[06:25] <TiMiDo> christian-, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[06:25] <BurgerMann> P229: I checked both /etc/passwd and /etc/group. everything seems okay
[06:25] <TiMiDo> that's a helpfull link
[06:25] <P229> what does ls -l in the dir's parent directory give you for that dir?
[06:25] <kewlman> is breezy ready?
[06:26] <TiMiDo> kewlman, nope
[06:26] <Whistler> kewlman allmost
[06:26] <narkceh> GnuKemist: it didnt work
[06:26] <Whistler> :D
[06:26] <Seveas> TiMiDo, that's crack
[06:26] <Seveas> mplayer should not be compiled
[06:26] <GnuKemist> kewlman, Oct 13th I think
[06:26] <kewlman> how long you think? still major problems?
[06:26] <TiMiDo> well mines worked that way ;P
[06:26] <Seveas> moreover, it's full of errors
[06:26] <mustafu> Would anyone kindly remind me of the command to enable DMA on devices?  I think it's hdparm [something] , but I forget...
[06:26] <mercurus> hi all
[06:26] <henriksson> im unable to burn with my cdwriter... getting error code 254 in k3b...
[06:26] <Whistler> kewlman there still are few major bugs
[06:26] <mercurus> I have a tutorial / Mini-HOWTO to write ... what's a good format ?
[06:26] <Whistler> kewlman wait until stable release
[06:26] <brenner> mustafu: sudo hdparm -d1
[06:26] <kewlman> okay, thanks
[06:26] <Seveas> mercurus, docbook or latex :)
[06:27] <P229> BurgerMann: you doing ls -l ?
[06:27] <GnuKemist> mustafu, I believe it is sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/[device] 
[06:27] <TiMiDo> mercurus, pdf
[06:27] <mercurus> Seveas: I feared someone would say that ... :P
[06:27] <TiMiDo> or chm ;P
[06:27] <henriksson> im unable to burn with my cdwriter... getting error code 254 in k3b...
[06:27] <kewlman> Cody! WINDOWS NOOOO =)
[06:27] <TiMiDo> henriksson, stop repeating
[06:27] <fmasi> hi i like to know the folowing: I have a amd32 whith hoary for 32bits instaled in my sistem. should i compile a kernel for atlonXP or amd64 ??? al softwers are for 32.
[06:27] <BurgerMann> P299, yah. It says the group owner of the dir is web-admin
[06:27] <brenner> henriksson: can you burn with other programs?
[06:27] <XTERM35> Could anyone tell me how to create a launcher to start automatically as root......example I have an icon on my destop for nautilus and i want to be able to click it and start nautilus as root
[06:28] <henriksson> no...
[06:28] <Seveas> fmasi, athlonXP
[06:28] <Cryptid> I have get LANG=en_US error while trying to install games using cedega
[06:28] <ui> can someone help me installin 7zip?
[06:28] <narkceh> GnuKemist: upgraded it
[06:28] <mercurus> fmasi: Unless you have a 64 bit AMD processor, use AthlonXP
[06:28] <fmasi> Seveas ok
[06:28] <BurgerMann> P299, and when I adduser burgermann web-admin it says I'm already in that group
[06:28] <Seveas> Cryptid, #cedega may be of more use
[06:28] <brenner> henriksson: hardware issue maybe then
[06:28] <GnuKemist> ui, 7zip?
[06:28] <GnuKemist> narkceh, thanks  ;)
[06:28] <Cryptid> Seveas, cedega is what i use
[06:28] <henriksson> so the writer is broked?
[06:28] <fmasi> mercurus I do have a amd 63 procesor but the softwer is hoary for 32
[06:28] <Cryptid> seveas, oh ok
[06:29] <Seveas> Cryptid, i mean the channel #cedega ;)
[06:29] <brenner> henriksson: sounds like it if other programs won't burn either
[06:29] <P229> BurgerMann: what's the ls-l ouput line for that dir?
[06:29] <GnuKemist> fmasi, I got amd64 running 32-bit Ubuntu... stick with 32 then
[06:29] <brenner> ui: install unrar-nonfree
[06:29] <Seveas> ui, sudo apt-get install p7zi[
[06:29] <henriksson> how do i mount a cdwriter in terminal?
[06:29] <Seveas> ui, sudo apt-get install p7zip
[06:29] <Seveas> henriksson, mount /dev/writer_device
[06:29] <bam_> anyone runnin xfce?
[06:30] <Dalkus> I need to link to <a href="index.cgi?page=text&style=default&size=medium">text</a>   but the 'style=' in the url is causing my xhtml not to validate
[06:30] <Dalkus> is tehre a way around that?
[06:30] <fmasi> GnuKemist whith 32 did you put as kernel
[06:30] <Seveas> Dalkus, &amp; instead of &
[06:30] <Dalkus> thanks
[06:30] <Seveas> Dalkus, and WAY off-topic in here...
[06:30] <GnuKemist> fmasi, just used the default 386 kernel that comes with the default install
[06:30] <Dalkus> sorry :)
[06:30] <GnuKemist> Linux houdini 2.6.10-5-386 #1 Thu Sep 8 06:18:41 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:30] <bam_> anyone know how the heck to install an xfce theme?
[06:30] <BurgerMann> P229: arh.. nm I lost the connex to the server now :s
[06:30] <nalioth> wrabbit01: what client do you use?
[06:31] <fmasi> GnuKemist a ok i gone build a new one should i put as atlonxp or intel
[06:31] <Phily> fmasi: AMD == much ceheaper
[06:31] <fmasi> GnuKemist i ges the atlon is more like it right
[06:31] <wrabbit01> Does anybody know of any good general linux books?  Maybe on the history of linux or just a broad linux bible?
[06:31] <GnuKemist> fmasi, to be safe, if you already have intel, don't switch
[06:31] <fmasi> i have an amd 64 Phily
[06:31] <wrabbit01> I could always use the net but it'd be nice to have a book away from the monitor with alot of compiled info
[06:31] <P229> BurgerMann: then what was the command you used to chown the dir?
[06:31] <Phily> wrabbit01: do u have a printer
[06:31] <Seveas> wrabbit01, the rute book is nice
[06:32] <Phily> wrabbit01: how about using your printer at your job
[06:32] <GnuKemist> fmasi, if you don't mind me ask, why do u wanna compile the kernel?
[06:32] <Seveas> there are several books about Ubuntu being written
[06:32] <fmasi> nono You dident get it i have a leptop whith atlon64 turion and i use hoary 32 on it
[06:32] <fmasi> GnuKemist to make it light and faster
[06:32] <fmasi> GnuKemist and to be sure that enny problems dont come from it
[06:32] <GnuKemist> fmasi, chances are you won't be able to tell the diff
[06:33] <GnuKemist> fmasi, what kind of problems do u have with it?
[06:33] <Phily> fmasi: Your not going to see a difference unless you compile it fir somthing specific (data base server)
[06:33] <spindley> wrabbit01, "Understanding the Linux Kernel" is a good one...it's an O'Reilly book
[06:33] <GnuKemist> Phily, exactly
[06:33] <fmasi> GnuKemisti like to take out the boot detection and modul loding
[06:33] <Phily> fmasi: you just want faster booting?
[06:33] <GnuKemist> fmasi, you want to remove module loading?
[06:33] <fmasi> GnuKemist dont know some whierd stuf whith my network
[06:34] <wrabbit01> not a working one phily.  I'll check out rute and Understanding the linux kernel, cheers
[06:34] <fmasi> I use to bul my own kernel thats why :)
[06:34] <GnuKemist> fmasi, I recommend you find out the specific before messing with the kernel
[06:34] <RockyBurt> grr... anyone here using Evolution and know why i can't see ANY messages in my INBOX even though it says there are 6 new ones?
[06:34] <fmasi> GnuKemist i use gento as sever so i compile the kernel some times
[06:34] <nalioth> wrabbit01: what irc client do you use?
[06:35] <Phily> wrabbit01: I use either xchat or irssi
[06:35] <spindley> RockyBurt, is "Inbox" highlighted on the left? :)
[06:35] <GnuKemist> fmasi, I'm used to building my kernel after many years of Gentoo...  but haven't had a valid reason for doing it with Ubuntu
[06:35] <mahangu> i installed enlightenment but how do i login?
[06:35] <Phily> wrabbit01: irssi when i remote log
[06:35] <RockyBurt> spindley: lol, of course
[06:35] <mahangu> i looked under 'sessions' in the login screen
[06:35] <fmasi> GnuKemist but ther is one very whierd stuf whith my network so i asked myself if it could be a kernel fing
[06:35] <fmasi> GnuKemist maby you can help me
[06:35] <Phily> mahangu: on if you use kdm in the logging screen choose session type
[06:35] <GnuKemist> fmasi, is your connection dropping?
[06:35] <P229> BurgerMann: still there?
[06:36] <GnuKemist> fmasi, I could try
[06:36] <mahangu> Phily, im using gnome
[06:36] <Phily> mahangu: cant help you then
[06:36] <wrabbit01> nalioth: xchat
[06:36] <fmasi> GnuKemist i have a 10/100/1000 ethernet and i can only get a 17KB/s wile in the other pc i can get 32
[06:36] <Phily> maybe just start a plain x and then start enlignement
[06:36] <fmasi> GnuKemist but the conection is not droping
[06:36] <GnuKemist> fmasi, hummm...  and Ubuntu detected the correct model for it?
[06:36] <nalioth> wrabbit01: you put your password in the "server password" box and you wont end up in jail in the future
[06:36] <fmasi> GnuKemist it just whont go faster then 17 wille normaly i get 32 easy
[06:37] <Cryptid> Seveas, how do i change my language prefrence from en_IN to en_US
[06:37] <mahangu> Phily, how do i log out of x?
[06:37] <Phily> fmasi: r u using dsl
[06:37] <fmasi> GnuKemist how can i know that ?
[06:37] <mahangu> i mean kill x
[06:37] <fmasi> GnuKemist yes dsl
[06:37] <GnuKemist> fmasi, also, have you checked if there's a newer drive for it that is higher than Ubuntu's?
[06:37] <Phily> mahangu: tyoe sudo init 2
[06:37] <wrabbit01> nalioth: Yup, will do.  Sorry bout' that.
[06:37] <mahangu> Phily, how do i start x again? :)
[06:37] <spindley> mahangu, did you create an 'enlightenment.desktop' under /usr/share/xessions/
[06:37] <Phily> mahangu: you ll drop back into console
[06:37] <spindley> ?
[06:37] <Phily> mahangu: xinit
[06:37] <mahangu> spindley, nope
[06:37] <Leonik> nalioth what was that fstab thing for looking at my winodws drive?
[06:37] <GnuKemist> fmasi, what is your card model?
[06:37] <mahangu> spindley, touch enlightenment.desktop ?
[06:37] <fmasi> GnuKemist i try to configure it as pppoeconfig , as rp_pppoe and whith a router doing all
[06:37] <spindley> mahangu, you have to do that first, before you can login from gdm
[06:37] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Leonik about windowsdrives
[06:38] <Leonik> thank you!
[06:38] <flodine> when you install breezy from the cd do you change the repositories?
[06:38] <Seveas> Cryptid, sudo dpkg-reconfigure or system -> admin -> language selector
[06:38] <fmasi> v let me get the name corecly
[06:38] <basti__> what would be normal fps for a 9800aiw with fgl_gears if I had configured the drivers correctly??
[06:38] <spindley> mahangu, is it e17?
[06:38] <GnuKemist> fmasi, ok...  but if you have a router, why are you using pppoe and etc?
[06:38] <Phily> BasL: around 500 fps if u dont resize the windoe
[06:38] <mahangu> spindley, i just apt-getted, have no idea
[06:38] <fmasi> GnuKemist i mean i did in 3 difrent whais
[06:39] <spindley> oh, then it would be 16
[06:39] <fmasi> GnuKemist i try all of them to be sure it whas not the program
[06:39] <fmasi> GnuKemist one at the time
[06:39] <christian-> I'm pretty sure I just added Repositories, but I still get the error: E: Couldn't find package mplayer-586
[06:39] <fmasi> GnuKemist they all did the same
[06:39] <Lord_Athur> hey
[06:39] <GnuKemist> fmasi, weird...  anyhow, did you get the model?
[06:39] <Lord_Athur> How I can read a memo?
[06:39] <fmasi> GnuKemist  sec
[06:39] <basti__> ok thx Phily
[06:40] <mahangu> spindley, touch would work?
[06:40] <mahangu> or do ihave to put stuff in it?
[06:40] <P229> BurgerMann: did you figure out what the problem was?
[06:40] <fmasi> GnuKemist how can i know the name under linux
[06:40] <zpierreski> Hi, I was wondering why I can't find sun-j2re1.5 or w32 in the ubuntu backport repositories?
[06:40] <GnuKemist> fmasi, use lspci
[06:40] <basti__> zpierreski, w32 was removed
[06:40] <zpierreski> y?
[06:40] <basti__> some legal issue
[06:41] <fmasi> GnuKemist 0000:06:07.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8169 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 10)
[06:41] <Determinist> Seveas, may i pm?
[06:41] <zpierreski> what about java from sun microsystems?
[06:41] <christian-> http://tinyurl.com/bwomt try here for w32
[06:41] <CarlFK> How can I make a one .deb file repository on my local drive so that the dependentcies will be retrieved from ubuntu.archives?
[06:41] <fmasi> GnuKemist just remember os lspci too
[06:41] <zpierreski> I really need it
[06:41] <nalioth> ubotu: tell zpierreski about javadeb
[06:41] <spindley> mahangu, 'sudo nano /usr/share/xsessions/enlightenment.desktop' then put in there what i paste you in pm
[06:41] <CarlFK> or, is there some way to get apt-get to start with a .deb?
[06:41] <Seveas> Determinist, sure
[06:41] <christian-> I'm pretty sure I just added Repositories, but I still get the error: E: Couldn't find package mplayer-586
[06:41] <mahangu> spindley, cool thanks
[06:41] <Seveas> zpierreski, hoary or breezy?
[06:42] <InitMass> got this error when trying to login to gnome. "Configuration is not correct. The configuratino contains av invalid command line for the login dialog...." which file should i look into?
[06:42] <Phily> christian-: did u do apt-get update?
[06:42] <zpierreski> hoary
[06:42] <Seveas> !info mplayer-586
[06:42] <ubotu> mplayer-586: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6 (hoary), Packaged size: 3486 kB, Installed size: 7508 kB
[06:42] <Seveas> zpierreski, ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu <-- hoary Sun java
[06:42] <christian-> Phily, I did. Same error
[06:42] <nalioth> Seveas: we have new ubotu factoids
[06:42] <zpierreski> thanx a ton!
[06:43] <Phily> nacer: how does ubotu work
[06:43] <Epix> Ah! I upgraded to breezy Preview and now X wont start. It gives me errors about font handlers already being registered at priority 0.
[06:43] <Seveas> nalioth, rock!
[06:43] <Cryptid> Seveas, i dont find System>admin>language selector i mean only the language slector is missing i am running ubuntu 5.04 what do i do and the dpkg command is asking me to specify a package to reconfigure
[06:43] <Phily> ubotu: help
[06:43] <spindley> mahangu, put those lines in, then ctrl-x to save it
[06:43] <nalioth> Seveas: !w32codecs and !javadeb
[06:44] <spindley> mahangu, log out of gdm, go to sessions, and you should see enlightenment in the list
[06:44] <Seveas> Cryptid, that menu is only in breezy, you can use: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[06:44] <mahangu> thanks brb
[06:44] <spindley> er, logout of gnome that is
[06:44] <christian-> I'm pretty sure I just added Repositories, but I still get the error: E: Couldn't find package mplayer-586. (I tried to update apt-get too, and still the same error)
[06:44] <Tomcat_> nalioth: !javadeb doesn't exist :o
[06:45] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Tomcat_ about javadeb
[06:45] <nalioth> Tomcat_: works great if you can spell
[06:45] <Tomcat_> Eh.... when I asked him it didn't work...
[06:45] <Leonik> anyway to run apt-get while synaptic is downloading updates?
[06:45] <brenner> christian-: edited sources.list, or did it thru synaptic?
[06:45] <Tomcat_> Mh... absolutely same spelling.
[06:45] <christian-> brenner, synaptic
[06:46] <brenner> Leonik: afaik, no...it gets locked
[06:46] <brenner> christian-: click on reload
[06:46] <Epix> And, now ndiswrapper says that my wifi card's files are not valid, but they worked before upgrading!!!
[06:46] <Tomcat_> Oh, I have to omit "!" when talking to ubotu directly.
[06:46] <Leonik> ohhh well no mp3s for me
[06:46] <christian-> brenner, I did that. I'll do it again now to make sure tho.
[06:48] <ali4728> Newbie needs help, I cant logon to my Ubuntu (only Failsafe Terminal ) got this Error http://pastebin.com/379718 Any suggestions appreciated.
[06:49] <christian-> I clicked reload, went to terminal and did sudo apt-get update and tried to install mplayer-586. Same error. I repeated the process, same error: E: Couldn't find package mplayer-586
[06:49] <mahangu> spindley, thanks
[06:49] <mahangu> it's kinda bland so back in gnome getting some themes
[06:49] <Determinist> ali4728, well, x.org got fubared...
[06:49] <mahangu> :)
[06:49] <mahangu> spindley, can i do the same with kde?
[06:49] <spindley> mahangu, worked?
[06:49] <spindley> mahangu, good
[06:49] <P229> ali4728: did you just install ubuntu?
[06:49] <mahangu> spindley, yeah thanks
[06:49] <spindley> mahangu, erm, i don't see why not
[06:50] <spindley> as long as you have the proper paths in your kde.desktop file or whatever
[06:50] <mahangu> spindley, manually add to /usr/share/xsessions?
[06:50] <brenner> christian-: have you posted your sources.list file to a pastebin yet?
[06:50] <BurgerMann> P229, nah. I've seen it before but then it somehow got to work. I never figured how.. I just tried to reboot the server but now I've got a few problems getting it online again :s
[06:50] <Determinist> ali4728, have you recently installed any display drivers? anything related to X.org?
[06:50] <christian-> brenner, sorry, I don't understand
[06:50] <mahangu> spindley, can you help me with the kde config? :S
[06:50] <nalioth> ali4728: that's easy
[06:50] <brenner> christian-: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:50] <mahangu> how do i check my freespace btw
[06:50] <mahangu> on a drive?
[06:50] <nalioth> ali4728: delete your ~/.ICEauthority and log in again
[06:50] <ali4728> P229, no I was installing a (mail server & virus prot etc ) when rebooted could not logon again
[06:50] <brenner> christian-: then copy and paste the contents to paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:50] <Zugwrack> I am seeing the following error after the initial install of Ubuntu PPC(mac) buffer I/O logical block 414416(repeats twice) and logical block 10002800(repeats twice) this mac has been acting strange over the last few days...so I am just installing Ubuntu without OS X...could there be a virus written to the hard drive buffer memory that is causing this message? Or maybe bad hard drive cache memory...
[06:51] <spindley> mahangu, 'df -h' in a terminal window
[06:51] <spindley> will show all your disks/partitions
[06:51] <P229> BurgerMann: hmmm, I see. anyhow, I strongly suspect that the group of the dir does not match your user's group (web-admin)
[06:51] <mahangu> spindley, thanks
[06:51] <Determinist> ali4728, well... i suppose whatever you've just installed overwritten your default conf for xorg... my suggestion, look under /etc/X11/ for xorg.conf~
[06:51] <ali4728> Determinist, I installed a (mail server & virus prot etc ) when rebooted could not logon again
[06:51] <BurgerMann> P229: hmn. Must be something like that.
[06:52] <mahangu> ok brb
[06:52] <Zugwrack> Oops forgot to mention it identifies /dev/hda as the device with logical block error(s)
[06:52] <BurgerMann> P229, now it works, after rebooting
[06:52] <P229> ali4728: when you're at the login screen, hit ctrl+alt+F1 then try to login there
[06:53] <brenner> Zugwrack: where do you see the error?
[06:53] <ali4728> P229,  ok let me try
[06:53] <Zugwrack> brenner: After initial install when it boots into new ubuntu system to setup the packages and such
[06:53] <P229> BurgerMann: interesting. oh, did you logout after chgrp'ing?
[06:53] <BurgerMann> P229: No i didn't :)
[06:53] <P229> BurgerMann: that's why, then
[06:54] <PassionLim> It's too hard to come in this channel. :'(
[06:54] <christian-> brenner, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2699
[06:54] <P229> BurgerMann: here's the next question, can you still sudo with that user?
[06:54] <brenner> Zugwrack: you say it's ben acting strange...hardware related?   might be what's causing the error in ubuntu
[06:54] <mahangu> im getting pushed to unregged
[06:54] <mahangu> even though im +e
[06:55] <BurgerMann> P229: yes, sure.
[06:55] <nalioth> mahangu: what client?
[06:55] <brenner> christian-: you don't have multiverse enabled as far as i can see
[06:55] <mahangu> nalioth, xchat
[06:55] <Zugwrack> brenner: I would say that too..however running the hardware diagnostics provided by Apple shows no errors...I also have  a program named drive genius that will do in depth diags on the hard drive...I see nothing out of place even after running random patterns to the hard drive for an hour...
[06:56] <brenner> !tell christian- about repos
[06:56] <nalioth> mahangu: put your password in the "server password" blank
[06:56] <nalioth> mahangu: leave the nickserv pass blank empty
[06:56] <brenner> christian-: use the second link ubotu pm'ed you as your sources.list
[06:56] <christian-> brenner,  I did that
[06:56] <christian-> ah
[06:56] <christian-> ok
[06:57] <P229> BurgerMann: ok
[06:57] <mahangu> nalioth, done, thanks
[06:57] <mahangu> is ice nice?
[06:57] <SaiBoth> hmm... I'm de-activating all my linux-prejudices on my own, today. :p
[06:57] <mahangu> or will i have to custo a lot to use?
[06:57] <Zugwrack> brenner: It does continue after the errors....I am just trying to figure out what it might be...I am thinking either the cache memory is hosing out on the hard drive..or a virus which is fairly improbable
[06:57] <mahangu> icewm
[06:57] <SaiBoth> certain stuff is waaaaaay easyer on linux then on win. :)
[06:57] <Epix> should i just wipe the system?
[06:58] <brenner> Zugwrack: yeah, i would rule out the virus thing....it's an CD image right?
[06:58] <brenner> sorry....official CD image
[06:59] <brenner> SaiBoth: good to hear. :)
[07:00] <brenner> mahangu: simplistic...i used it for a while
[07:00] <wacko_jacko> hello everyone
[07:00] <brenner> prefer xfce as far as eye-candy goes
[07:00] <wacko_jacko> I'm having a really frustrating problem
[07:00] <mahangu> brenner, thans
[07:00] <Dalkus> is it possible to find/replace all  in vim?
[07:00] <mahangu> *ks
[07:01] <wacko_jacko> I allowed the ubuntu update thing to update the kernel, but now my ubuntu won't boot.
[07:01] <SaiBoth> yeah brenner... :)
[07:01] <SaiBoth> rally...
[07:01] <brenner> mahangu: it _is_ very fast though
[07:01] <SaiBoth> it's my first day in linux...
[07:01] <wacko_jacko> Grub seems to be fine, since my other OSes still boot just find
[07:01] <SaiBoth> and I allready hava a webserver running. :p
[07:01] <SaiBoth> ^^
[07:01] <Zugwrack> brenner: Yes I did a ftp for the Ubuntu 5.04 hoary image...I have been having problems with OS X installing fresh...then after a while if you log out...then try to login it hangs..after a reboot it acts like the user directories some how are hosed...then going to diags (disk utility) booted from OS X install..it shows the B-Node is jacked..attempts to repair fail...I then boot to drive genius..and kill the partition and all...th
[07:01] <Zugwrack> is has happened twice in regards to OS X...I think maybe the hard drive is getting ready to fail and just hasn't gotten bad enough for SMART to show it..or the diag software to detect the inconsistency
[07:01] <brenner> Dalkus: sure....forgot how though....should be easy to find in vimtutor
[07:01] <zenek> how can i install Tcl/Tk 8.3? msg me in priv... -.-
[07:01] <Dalkus> ok thanks brenner
[07:01] <wacko_jacko> just ubuntu gives me the following error: Kernel Panic- not syncing:VFS:Unable to mount root fs on unknown -block(0,0)
[07:02] <nalioth> ubotu: tell zenek about synaptic
[07:02] <Leonik> how do i play mp3s in breezy?
[07:02] <brenner> Zugwrack: yeah...sounds like ubuntu's not the culprit then...
[07:02] <wacko_jacko> So anyone have any ideas why I might get this error? "Kernel Panic- not syncing:VFS:Unable to mount root fs on unknown -block(0,0)"
[07:03] <Zugwrack> brenner: Kubuntu didn't boot after install..so I have just Ubuntu installing over...it hasn't completed yet... I presume you use Mac?
[07:03] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Leonik about mp3
[07:03] <brenner> Zugwrack: you presume wrong. :)  nalioth does though
[07:03] <atila_sendil> Hi all; how do you add subtitles to a DivX movie in Xine ?
[07:03] <gsuveg> ubuntu works on pentium 1 mmx ?
[07:04] <brenner> gsuveg: what cpu speed and ram?
[07:04] <nalioth> gsuveg: yes with 128mb or more of ram
[07:04] <wrabbit01> Can anybody help.... I've just used the update manager and now I'm unable to see my windows drive in grub.
[07:04] <Zugwrack> brenner: Ahh..ok well thanks for letting me bounce my logical reasoning off of ya! :-O
[07:04] <wrabbit01> Any ideas?
[07:04] <wrabbit01> Using breezy
[07:04] <wacko_jacko> wrabbit: did you check the menu.lst file?
[07:04] <kurzman> finally
[07:04] <brenner> Zugwrack: np :)
[07:04] <gsuveg> brenner: p1 166 / 48 MB ram
[07:05] <gsuveg> nalioth i dont want to use gnome
[07:05] <wrabbit01> wacko_jacko: It was working originally.  I can check it again, I suppose.  It may have been updated automatically?
[07:05] <nalioth> kurzman: welcome
[07:05] <bronson> wacko_jacko: your root fs is unavailable.  there are a ton of things that could cause that.
[07:05] <kurzman> yipee
[07:05] <nalioth> gsuveg: then great! you box will work fine
[07:05] <gsuveg> nalioth ubuntu is i586 optimized ?
[07:05] <bronson> Anyone using the Via Unichrome driver on Breezy?
[07:06] <bronson> I just can't get it to give me a good mode.
[07:06] <gsuveg> nalioth im use icewm + opera + gmail
[07:06] <LokeDK> what has happened to the backports? they don't work.. and well http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/main/binary-i386/ is empty
[07:06] <brenner> isn't the install process on these old machines unbearably slow...mine took a while on this 1.6Ghz....
[07:06] <gsuveg> nalioth s/im/my wife/
[07:06] <brenner> that was a question btw
[07:06] <nalioth> gsuveg: not it has a i386 kernel in the installer
[07:06] <butcherbird> brenner: I didnt notice it slow on my p3 650...
[07:07] <Zugwrack> nalioth: do you know if it is possible to install both OS X and Ubuntu to a firewire drive and let that be the main hard drive? I ain't looking forward to opening up this eMac 700 to replace the hard drive... :-)
[07:07] <werto> yo all :D
[07:07] <wacko_jacko> wrabbit: yeah
[07:07] <gsuveg> nalioth what is the default kernel ?
[07:07] <atila_sendil> noone ever opened a DivX movie with Xine and needed subtitles ?
[07:07] <nalioth> Zugwrack: firewire booting is not supported yet
[07:07] <brenner> butcherbird: maybe it's my HDD....you using a 7200RPM or higher?
[07:07] <butcherbird> 7200rpm, 256 mb ram
[07:07] <brenner> atila_sendil: search the forum while you wait
[07:07] <werto> hei, someone know why when i play a mp3 it be played speed? i've a ubuntu breezy 32bit on a amd64... i should need some help
[07:08] <nalioth> Zugwrack: and if i can open my snow ibook and change the HD, an emac should be cake
[07:08] <gsuveg> nalioth im isntall the system in my destop and put the disk after first reboot into notebook
[07:08] <werto> don't know what i should do...
[07:08] <brenner> butcherbird: probably why...this lappy's got a 4200
[07:08] <wacko_jacko> bronson: can you give me some ideas?
[07:08] <nalioth> gsuveg: i386 or amd64 or powerpc
[07:08] <atila_sendil> brenner : did the same :-) and searched but I need to open from menu ?
[07:08] <Zugwrack> nalioth: Ok thanks...did you follow my post asking about a I/O error on /dev/hda logical block(s) 414416 and 10002800?
[07:08] <nalioth> gsuveg: not a real good idea, but good luck
[07:08] <butcherbird> brenner: course I wasnt happy with speed in general and reinstalled a minimal slackware for that computer
[07:08] <brenner> atila_sendil: as in enabling subtitles?
[07:09] <InitMass> Breezy is sweet!
[07:09] <wrabbit01> Ummm... what was the command to bring up the grub menu.lst again?
[07:09] <nalioth> Zugwrack: i know nothing about i/o errors (sounds like you may have bad hardware)
[07:09] <gsuveg> nalioth why ?
[07:09] <brenner> wrabbit01: define bring up
[07:09] <wrabbit01> brenner: open
[07:09] <Zugwrack> nalioth: Yeah..and I think it is the hard drive :-)
[07:09] <brenner> wrabbit01: you want to write or just view?
[07:09] <nalioth> gsuveg: not a real good idea to install on one box and transplant the drive to another one
[07:09] <_jason> wrabbit01:  sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.list
[07:09] <wrabbit01> brenner: both if needed.
[07:09] <nalioth> Zugwrack: got ubuntu on it now?
[07:09] <wrabbit01> _jason: cheers
[07:10] <atila_sendil> brenner : as loading a subtitle file :-) I cannot find the menu where to load the subtitlefile
[07:10] <kurzman> could sombody help me to set up apt-get to use with a proxy server
[07:10] <wrabbit01> It's empty!!!!!!!! :(
[07:10] <_jason> wrabbit01:  sorry it is menu.lst not menu.list
[07:10] <Zugwrack> nalioth: Re-installing...it completed Kubuntu...but when it tried to run xorg..the screen was just black..I am reinstalling with just Ubuntu Hoary 5.04...let you know shortly
[07:10] <wrabbit01> lol
[07:10] <wrabbit01> oh, sorry
[07:10] <wrabbit01> thanks
[07:10] <brenner> atila_sendil: joined #xine?
[07:10] <gsuveg> nalioth http://tuxmobil.org/hp800e.html < it havent cd and floppy
[07:11] <atila_sendil> brenner : on my way ty :-)
[07:11] <nalioth> Zugwrack: dont reinstall any more
[07:11] <bruno_lima_> im having trouble installing dvdrip
[07:11] <bruno_lima_> anyon plz help-me
[07:11] <nalioth> Zugwrack: let me know when it's done
[07:11] <nalioth> bruno_lima_: ask a question with info in it
[07:11] <Zugwrack> nalioth: Sure..thanks for the help
[07:11] <gsuveg> nalioth whats is your idea to isntall ?
[07:11] <christian-> brenner, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2700
[07:11] <wrabbit01> Interesting... installing the current breezy updates got rid of my windows option in grub :(
[07:11] <esac> i cant seem to find libpthread or libthread so i can install lib*thread-dbg .. anybody know what i would install to get those symbols ?
[07:11] <bruno_lima_> nalioth, dvdrip: Depende: transcode (>= 2:0.6.14) but is not installed
[07:12] <Zugwrack> So is Breezy the next version of Ubuntu?
[07:12] <nalioth> gsuveg: i'd install on the box you're gonna use it on
[07:12] <wacko_jacko> bronson: I mean, I'm sure the menu.lst is fine and whatever the problem is it was caused by the update, so maybe you can help me narrow it down.
[07:12] <christian-> Zugwrack, yes
[07:12] <Zugwrack> Kewl...it is final now?
[07:12] <nalioth> ubotu: tell bruno_lima_ about sources
[07:12] <brenner> christian-: remove the cdrom lines from sources.list
[07:12] <nalioth> bruno_lima_: read what ubotu sent you
[07:12] <gsuveg> nalioth you know what is the default kernel with install ? i386 or ?
[07:12] <slept> I'm searching for a downloadlink for  heroes of might and magic 3 , they cloesd the link on loki :( , any ideas ?
[07:12] <brenner> christian-: then update
[07:12] <shedi> wrabbit01, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:12] <nalioth> gsuveg: yes if you use the i386 install disk
[07:13] <slept> for the demoversion
[07:13] <gsuveg> nalioth then need workin the method:
[07:13] <afd_> how do I get mp3 playback in rhytmbox?
[07:13] <nalioth> gsuveg: put your hard drive in your machine and install ubuntu
[07:14] <nalioth> ubotu: tell afd_ about mp3
[07:14] <wacko_jacko> wrabbit01: so just put it back in there
[07:14] <gsuveg> nalioth start installer, it copy the system into disk and if it reboot im put the disk into notebook
[07:14] <wacko_jacko> nalioth: do you have any idea what might cause this error on boot?: Kernel Panic- not syncing:VFS:Unable to mount root fs on unknown -block(0,0)
[07:14] <nalioth> gsuveg: good luck
[07:14] <wrabbit01> wacko_jacko: I have. I'm hoping it works.
[07:14] <wrabbit01> I'll be back if it doesn't
[07:14] <nalioth> wacko_jacko: ask someone where your system logs are. they hold clues
[07:14] <wacko_jacko> wrabbit01: ok, good luck :)
[07:15] <wrabbit01> cheers. :)
[07:15] <wacko_jacko> nalioth: any idea which system log I should be looking at?
[07:15] <ali4728> nalioth, I deleted "~/.ICEauthority" file but still cant log on to my desktop. Determinist,  what u mean by "look under /etc/X11/ for xorg.conf~" I am a newbie need explicit help,  thx guys
[07:16] <afd_> where can I get mc? (midnight commander)
[07:16] <afd_> I can't find it in universe
[07:16] <butcherbird> afd_: its in universe or multiverse im sure
[07:16] <nalioth> !info mc
[07:17] <ubotu> mc: (Midnight Commander - a powerful file manager), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1:4.6.0-4.6.1-pre1-3ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1912 kB, Installed size: 5340 kB
[07:17] <ericz> what's a good program to practice typing?
[07:17] <nalioth> afd_: it's in universe. go get it
[07:17] <ericz> that's not so animated or simple like tuxtype
[07:17] <butcherbird> ericz: irc =)
[07:17] <ericz> haha
[07:17] <wacko_jacko> ericz: get "the typing of the dead" on dreamcast :)
[07:17] <ericz> dreamcast
[07:17] <wacko_jacko> does anyone know what log I should look at when my kernel won't boot?
[07:18] <slept> wacko_jacko, what error do you get when you boot ?
[07:19] <wacko_jacko> slept: Kernel Panic- not syncing:VFS:Unable to mount root fs on unknown -block(0,0)
[07:19] <slept> wacko_jacko, did you compile your own kernel ?
[07:19] <ig0r24> I can't use ethernet
[07:19] <wacko_jacko> slept: nope
[07:19] <ig0r24> SIOCSIFAADDR: No use such device
[07:19] <ig0r24> eth0: unknown interface: No such device
[07:20] <ig0r24> how can I fix that?
[07:20] <wacko_jacko> slept: I allowed the ubuntu update thing to update whatever it wanted, but I'm only using the default sources (not even universe or multiverse)
[07:20] <s3[mn] rain> Hi, I have setup twinview on my laptop, but the external monitor is acting as the primary, and the login screen/panel are on it, how can i change it to use my laptop screen as the primary monitor?
[07:20] <wacko_jacko> slept: I think it updated the kernel
[07:20] <wacko_jacko> slept: (or at least tried to)
[07:20] <wrabbit01> wacko_jacko: It worked just fine. :)
[07:20] <wrabbit01> Thanks for the help all
[07:20] <wacko_jacko> wrabbit01: great!
[07:21] <afd_> I can't believe it's not possible to create a new directory from the gnome default open dialog. Or am I wrong?
[07:21] <slept> wacko_jacko, is your root fs ok ? did you fschk with a live cd ?
[07:21] <zephyrmaster> Hey, can anyone help me with some sound issues please? I can hear system sounds and the startup sound but no sound in any programs. Thanks
[07:22] <christian-> I'm trying to install w32codecs_1%3a20050216-0.0_i386.deb, what do I do with a .deb file ?
[07:22] <jroes> is ndiswrapper on the CD?
[07:22] <jroes> as in, do I have to have an internet connection before I set up my wireless internet stuff
[07:22] <wacko_jacko> slept: yes it is, actually not from the livecd but from my other distro (which still boots fine)
[07:22] <ericz> christitan "dpkg -i packagename.deb"
[07:22] <jroes> because I want to just install that package from scratch
[07:22] <Belutz> christian-, sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb
[07:22] <Zugwrack> nalioth: Looks like it is hung at registering documentation
[07:22] <christian-> Thanks !
[07:23] <crispynix> zephyrmaster: presumably, you have some sound daemon running and your sound card/chip can't do hardware mixing (IOW, handle multiple applications accessing /dev/dsp at the same time).
[07:23] <crispynix> zephyrmaster: disable the sound daemon or use apps that can output to it
[07:23] <zenek> i can't run tibia. anyone know how to do it?
[07:23] <zephyrmaster> How do I disable it?
[07:24] <ali4728> Newbie needs help, I cant logon to my Ubuntu (only Failsafe Terminal ) got this Error http://pastebin.com/379718 Any suggestions appreciated.
[07:24] <christian-> "dpkg: status database area is locked by another process" <- is that because I'm running apt-get install somethign right now ?
[07:24] <slept> wacko_jacko, did you try  to boot with an other (ubuntu-)kernel ? The error looks like there is only a module for the filesystem you have on /
[07:24] <Zugwrack> nalioth: I take that back...looks like between jumping to my dual 5
[07:24] <Zugwrack> nalioth: Looks as if it won't boot to xorg...between the jump from this computer to the eMac...the screen is just black
[07:24] <crispynix> zephyrmaster: well, first you need to figure out which one is running.
[07:24] <nalioth> christian-: yes
[07:24] <zephyrmaster> Oh okay,, thanks
[07:24] <crispynix> zephyrmaster: common ones are esd (esound for gnome) and artsd (arts for KDE)
[07:24] <s3[mn] rain> Hi, I have setup dual monitors using twinview on my laptop, but the external monitor is acting as the primary, so everything appears on it first, how do I change my laptop to be the primary and the external as secondary?
[07:24] <christian-> nalioth, ok. I'll just wait then :)
[07:24] <wacko_jacko> slept: what do you mean by another ubuntu-kernel? I tried this:
[07:25] <crispynix> zephyrmaster: what kind of sound card or chip do you have, btw?
[07:25] <nalioth> Zugwrack: hit (on the emac) ctrl-option-f3
[07:25] <butcherbird> ali4728: youre not running low on diskspace are you?
[07:25] <wacko_jacko> slept: I chrooted to my ubuntu partition. Then I "mount -tproc none /proc". Then I "apt-get install linux-686" (which executed without errors).
[07:25] <zephyrmaster> I'm not sure :-(. It's just whatever simple one came with this HP laptop.
[07:25] <wacko_jacko> slept: However, the 686 kernel won't boot either.
[07:25] <zephyrmaster> In my processes, it says esd is "sleeping"
[07:25] <Zugwrack> nalioth: Sorry...I just rebooted..but it wouldn't let me get to f2 so I presume f3 would have been useless as well
[07:26] <ali4728> butcherbird, dint think so (120 gb HD)
[07:26] <slept> wacko_jacko, does any ubuntu kernel boot, did ever boot ?
[07:26] <nalioth> Zugwrack: join #kubuntu-offtopic or ##apple
[07:26] <wacko_jacko> slept: (of course I did apt-get update and all that)
[07:26] <crispynix> zephyrmaster: ah, so it most certainly doesn't support hw mixing then..  Like I said, figure out which sound daemon is running and configure your system to not run it on startup.
[07:26] <zephyrmaster> Okay, thanks :-)
[07:26] <nitroflea> i have an ati 9600 and cant get fglrx to work...can somone help me
[07:26] <wacko_jacko> slept: yes, it booted just fine until a few days ago when the updated notifier (in the panel) notified me of updates and I said "ok install them"
[07:27] <bruno_lima_> nalioth, thanks man :)
[07:27] <wacko_jacko> slept: after that it wouldn't boot
[07:27] <Zugwrack> nalioth: I saw not errors on reboot(other than the dev/hda error)..but now I am back to a black screen..and can't get to any other consoles...I just did "install" since this is a first gen 700mhz eMac
[07:27] <slept> wacko_jacko, do you remember the version of the last working kernel ? You can install that one
[07:27] <ali4728> butcherbird, how do I determine disk space through command line?
[07:27] <slept> wacko_jacko, did you try to update since then ?
[07:27] <butcherbird> ali4728: df
[07:27] <smergler2> how do i restart my audio driver?
[07:27] <smergler2> device*
[07:28] <wacko_jacko> slept: well when you say install what method are you referring to? I tried reinstalling linux-386 with apt-get.
[07:28] <butcherbird> ali4728: df -m to get info in mb
[07:28] <Zugwrack> nalioth: I am in offtopic
[07:28] <smergler2> vlc isnt working for me.. but it seems that the device does work
[07:28] <afd_> how do you guys do this: create a new directory when I want to choose a location, inside a gnome open dialog. I'm coming from KDE, and it seems incredible that it's not possible to do this
[07:29] <wacko_jacko> slept: well I can't boot, so I can't update with the ubuntu update-manager (or whatever it is called), but I tried apt-get updating in a chrooted environment and was told there are no updates available.
[07:29] <marcin_ant> hi guys
[07:29] <ericz> how do you make a zip archive?
[07:29] <marcin_ant> I got a pretty weird question
[07:29] <smergler2> is there a way you can set the terminal size so it will be that size when i open a new terminal
[07:29] <smergler2> ?
[07:29] <ericz> zip foldername gives me nothng to do
[07:29] <marcin_ant> I want to use bitmap font on gnome desktop - for example misc-fixed
[07:30] <crispynix> marcellus: dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig  and enable bitmapped fonts
[07:30] <marcin_ant> and after reconfiguring fontconfig this font is available for gtk/gnome apps
[07:30] <wacko_jacko> ericz: type "man gzip"
[07:30] <bruno_lima_> nalioth, do you know some tool who makes VCD from .avi files ?
[07:30] <crispynix> marcellus: sorry, lag
[07:30] <bruno_lima_> nalioth, do you know *any tool who makes VCD from .avi files ?
[07:30] <ericz> i want a .zip not a .gz
[07:30] <marcin_ant> but unfortunately mozilla firefox doesn't want to use this font
[07:31] <wacko_jacko> ericz: I'm pretty sure it is the same thing.
[07:31] <marcin_ant> so I got Fixed on my desktop but not in ffox
[07:31] <zenek> how can i install tk8.3 (not tk8.4)? msg me in priv... -.-
[07:31] <crispynix> marcellus: some apps might not support bitmapped fonts any more; you may want to try asking on the MozillaZine forums though.
[07:31] <marcin_ant> could someone tell me what can I do to set different font for ffox?
[07:31] <slept> wacko_jacko, to the same you can select the version of the kernel you want to install with the linux-image packages, just install an older one
[07:32] <nalioth> bruno_lima_: vcd_imager
[07:32] <crispynix> ericz: apt-get install zip && zip -h
[07:32] <wacko_jacko> ericz: there is also the "zip" command which you can try if you're more comfortable.
[07:32] <nalioth> zenek: we do not PM folks in here. i gave you the answer earlier
[07:32] <ericz> thats what im trying to use the zip command
[07:33] <wacko_jacko> slept: yeah, I wasn't so sure about that...if it would take care of the initrd.img and everything
[07:33] <mike__> Newbie Alert
[07:33] <mike__> mike__ I have lots of questions. I just converted from windows, I was a master at that crappy OS.
[07:33] <mike__> mike__ I need enlightenment
[07:33] <mike__> mike__ SOmeone help? help.
[07:33] <mike__> from the #ubuntu unreg
[07:33] <slept> wacko_jacko, that should work if you need restriced modules install the coresponding version aswell
[07:34] <mahangu> mike__, do an apt-get
[07:34] <wacko_jacko> slept: can I just "apt-get install linux-image-<version>"? Will that correctly install the kernel?
[07:34] <kyle_> hey guys. i'm wondering if there's a way to make my window list (taskbar) higher.  that is- two or more rows of icons, instead of just one
[07:34] <mahangu> or use synaptic
[07:34] <ericz> what parameters does the zip command need to create a zip file of a directory
[07:34] <mahangu> although id reccomend you use gnome / kde till you get used to linux
[07:34] <Seveas> mike__, asking the question may help if you want answers :)
[07:34] <slept> wacko_jacko, yes
[07:34] <mike__> mike@71-8-63-117:~$ lsmod | grep snd
[07:34] <mike__> snd_mpu401              6344  1
[07:34] <mike__> snd_mpu401_uart         6784  1 snd_mpu401
[07:34] <mike__> snd_rawmidi            22816  1 snd_mpu401_uart
[07:34] <mike__> snd_seq_device          8204  1 snd_rawmidi
[07:34] <mike__> snd                    48644  6 snd_mpu401,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device
[07:34] <mike__> soundcore               9184  1 snd
[07:34] <mike__> mike@71-8-63-117:~$ lspci | grep audio
[07:35] <mike__> 0000:01:09.0 Multimedia audio controller: Rockwell International: Unknown device 4310
[07:35] <crispynix> kyle_: I'm pretty sure that GNOME's panel can be resized; have you tried right clicking it and checking the settings?  (I'm using KDE)
[07:35] <mike__> from the forum:
[07:35] <smergler2> hey... i got a sound problem
[07:35] <mike__> I am a BRAND NEW Linux user. Ubuntu Breezy Badger Latest release.
[07:35] <mike__> I do not know how to get my sound to work, or how to install programs.
[07:35] <mike__> I didn't see a Breezy Badger hardware problem support forum within here, and need help placing questions in the proper forum.
[07:35] <mike__> I need enlightenment. I am loving Linux, and I know there is a way to do this stuff, but I don't even know the questions to ask
[07:35] <wacko_jacko> ericz: oh, I see....you might have to "tar" the folder first
[07:35] <s3[mn] rain> Hi, I have setup dual monitors using twinview on my laptop, but the external monitor is acting as the primary, so everything appears on it first, how do I change my laptop to be the primary and the external as secondary?
[07:35] <slept> mike__, paste in #flood
[07:35] <nickel> Hey
[07:35] <Seveas> NEVER paste in here
[07:35] <wacko_jacko> slept: ok I will try
[07:35] <Seveas> great way not to get help
[07:35] <kyle_> crispynix, yeah, i can make it higher, but that just sizes the single row, it doesn't let me specify the number of rows i'd like
[07:35] <wacko_jacko> slept: thanks
[07:35] <nickel> I'm havig a slight problem with my Ubuntu installation
[07:36] <slept> wacko_jacko, if grub doesn't get updated do it yourself with update-grub
[07:36] <crispynix> kyle_: hm, you can probably add another panel right next to the current one
[07:36] <nickel> It seems to have worked fine, but as soon as I get to the log in screen, put in all the correct information, it goes to the "Ubuntu" screen, and nothing happens, even the mouse becomes unresponsive
[07:36] <Pablo_C> hello
[07:36] <afd_> mp3, mp3... Yeah, the wiki says to download things from some guy's repository who doesn't even provide the key for the packages, and anybody has a mirror for that?
[07:36] <kyle_> crispynix, wouldn't that just relist the same information?>
[07:36] <crispynix> kyle_: heh, good point
[07:37] <Pablo_C> does anyone have the madwifi drivers running on ubuntu?
[07:37] <kyle_> is there a gnome chan that'd be better to ask in? there isn't one on this server, efnet?
[07:37] <Seveas> Pablo_C, yes
[07:37] <crispynix> kyle_: well, kde's taskbar works like you describe -.-
[07:37] <Seveas> you can get them in linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[07:37] <crispynix> kyle_: try #gnome perhaps
[07:37] <Pablo_C> hmm
[07:37] <Seveas> or the more recent packages, see wiki.ubuntu.com/MoreRecentMadwifiDrivers (oslt) for info
[07:38] <Pablo_C> ok
[07:38] <nickel> ... anyone have any ideas?
[07:38] <christian-> I installed mplayer and w3codecs, but I still can't run my Divx backups. Any ideas ?
[07:38] <kyle_> crispynix, ahh, i was trying gnome, not #gnome, thanks
[07:38] <Pablo_C> are you going to be around for a while seveas... I might need some help :)
[07:38] <ericz> hooray, i got what i wanted tar.gz'd instead
[07:38] <mike0125489> ok, messed up sorry...
[07:38] <wacko_jacko> slept: hmmm, there is only one version of the kernel in the archive....and it is the same one I had before the problem and (according to apt-get) the same one I have now.
[07:38] <wacko_jacko> slept: ??
[07:38] <mike0125489> didn't know i couldn't paste
[07:39] <Seveas> Pablo_C, sure
[07:39] <Pablo_C> ok thanks
[07:39] <wacko_jacko> slept: linux-image-2.6.10-5-386 is already the newest version.
[07:39] <Pablo_C> what atheros card are you running
[07:39] <Doonz> whats the command to completely flatten a windows 2k box from within windows
[07:39] <Seveas> hmm, lemme check
[07:40] <Seveas> 0000:02:04.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01)
[07:40] <Pablo_C> thats a cm9
[07:40] <Pablo_C> its a good one :)
[07:40] <jxpx> who has the Mplayer here?
[07:40] <Seveas> if you say so :)
[07:40] <mike0125489> Can someone please help me, or atleast tell me how to execute rar files so i can burn the windows xp iso and be done with an OS that has a Nazi IRC channel with no patience?
[07:40] <Seveas> it's built into my laptop :)
[07:40] <Pablo_C> you ever pic up any 5ghz links?
[07:40] <jxpx> anyone have the Mplayer here?
[07:40] <jxpx> please
[07:40] <jxpx> :S
[07:40] <mike0125489> i just want my sound back
[07:40] <slept> wacko_jacko, did you update your grub menu ? if so you can just boot that kernel
[07:41] <jxpx> anyone have the Mplayer here?
[07:41] <Seveas> Pablo_C, no, didn't even know it's supported :)
[07:41] <wacko_jacko> slept: yeah, the grub menu is correct....it never changed at all
[07:41] <Pablo_C> yes
[07:41] <wacko_jacko> slept: the kernel just won't boot now
[07:41] <Seveas> jxpx, sure, apt-get install mplayer-386
[07:41] <Pablo_C> that is what the 802.11a is
[07:41] <Pablo_C> its 5ghz
[07:41] <Seveas> ah right
[07:41] <spindley> mike0125489, 'unrar x /path/to/whatever.rar /path/to/whatever.iso'
[07:41] <afd_> how can I get shadows under my windows?
[07:41] <Pablo_C> ok I am going to play with this for a bit
[07:41] <wacko_jacko> mike0125489: what do you mean by "execute rar files"?
[07:41] <Pablo_C> I might be back :)
[07:42] <Pablo_C> winrar
[07:42] <christian-> I installed mplayer and w3codecs, but I still can't run my Divx backups. Any ideas ?
[07:42] <Pablo_C> user winrar
[07:42] <jxpx> thankjs seveas
[07:42] <christian-> I can't even run random wmv files :/
[07:42] <Seveas> christian-, how did you install w32codecs?
[07:42] <spindley> mike0125489, er, do you mean unrar in windows or linux?
[07:42] <zovirl> Is there an easy way to make a source tarball into a deb package?  I'm trying to install some software, and would rather use deb packages than the typical "make install"
[07:42] <slept> wacko_jacko, did you try 2.6.12 ?
[07:43] <Seveas> zovirl, checkinstall
[07:43] <christian-> Seveas, sudo dkpg -i w3.deb
[07:43] <wacko_jacko> slept: not in the archive....I try to avoid the bleeding edge to avoid problems like this ;)
[07:43] <christian-> I downloaded it
[07:43] <Seveas> christian-, that should work.... what's the error you get?
[07:43] <christian-> sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_1%3a20050216-0.0_i386.deb
[07:43] <zovirl> seveas: ah excellent.  Thanks!
[07:44] <wacko_jacko> slept: I'm just using the default hoary repositories....no universe, no multiverse
[07:44] <christian-> Nothing. Mplayer just "crashes"
[07:44] <Seveas> well, mplayer always gives heaps of output in the terminal
[07:44] <christian-> It works alright, but when I try to open a file mplayer "resizes" the window and the dies
[07:44] <Seveas> so probably some error messages too
[07:44] <wacko_jacko> slept: here is my grub entry:
[07:44] <wacko_jacko> slept: title           Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.10-5-386
[07:44] <wacko_jacko> root            (hd0,5)
[07:44] <wacko_jacko> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-386 root=/dev/hda6 ro quiet splash
[07:44] <wacko_jacko> initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.10-5-386
[07:44] <wacko_jacko> savedefault
[07:44] <wacko_jacko> boot
[07:44] <Seveas> NEVER paste in here
[07:44] <christian-> Seveas, but I'm not running it from a terminal ?
[07:45] <Seveas> christian-, try running it from a terminal and paste the output/error on the pastebin
[07:45] <eruin> I wonder why translated vlc to norwegian
[07:45] <slept> Seveas, how long does a ban last ?
[07:46] <wacko_jacko> I'm back, sorry about that.
[07:46] <nalioth> slept: depends on the infraction
[07:46] <laitment> How is AMD64 these days, out of curiosity? I'm going to be installing Linux for a friend who hasn't touched it before somewhat soon, and I'm not sure whether to set up the x86 or the amd64 version of Ubuntu.
[07:46] <zenek> how to put some new packets in synaptic?
[07:47] <tehconartist> where is the win32 codecs folder for totem?
[07:47] <sktrdie> hello
[07:47] <Seveas> tehconartist, apt-get install w32codecs totem-xine
[07:47] <wacko_jacko> slept: so what do you think?
[07:47] <Seveas> laitment, amd64 still has no flash, java and ndiswrapper are available
[07:48] <tehconartist> Seveas, what repos do you use...
[07:48] <Seveas> tehconartist, all ubuntu repos and my personal one
[07:48] <Seveas> w32codecs from marillat
[07:48] <michelts> hi guys!
[07:49] <michelts> how can I have a smartlink modem working under ubuntu}
[07:49] <michelts> ?
[07:49] <christian-> Seveas, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2701
[07:49] <wormee> hellow
[07:49] <wacko_jacko> slep: you there?
[07:49] <Seveas> michelts, there's some info on the wiki ($wiki))
[07:49] <slept> wacko_jacko, do you have other kernels installed ? try to install other /older ones if you don't like new ones. did the 686 or k7 or whatever you have version work?
[07:50] <Seveas> wiki.ubuntu.com
[07:50] <michelts> I compiled the sl-modem source on my debian
[07:50] <michelts> ok, I will follow :)
[07:50] <wacko_jacko> slept: no the 686 did not work (same error)
[07:51] <slept> wacko_jacko, try an other version I don't know what else to do.
[07:51] <Ruslan> exit
[07:51] <Seveas> christian-, that's a weird error with some modules
[07:51] <Seveas> did you kill it/press <ctrl> C?
[07:51] <wacko_jacko> slept: I don't have any other kernels installed.....the only kernels in the repo are 386,686,K7 + smp variants of 2.6.10-5
[07:51] <christian-> Seveas, yeah, I did the second time
[07:52] <wacko_jacko> slept: I've installed all that are compatible (386 and 686)
[07:52] <Seveas> and the first time?
[07:52] <ack>  is there anyway I can get sshclient from windows autologin  to my unix
[07:52] <Seveas> christian-, hmm, edit /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf
[07:52] <Seveas> find the line ao=alsa
[07:52] <Seveas> change it to ao=esd
[07:52] <laitment> If I wanted to compile a kernel for the athlon64 so that it runs in 32-bit mode, would I just set the Processor family to Athlon/Duron/K7?
[07:53] <butcherbird> ack: are you trying to ssh into you linux box in windows?
[07:53] <lightsource> where can I find my grub.conf file?
[07:53] <wacko_jacko> slept: the weird thing is that, except for some configuration files unrelated to the kernel, I'm running a completely vanilla ubuntu hoary. I don't understand why i am the only one having this problem.
[07:53] <butcherbird> lightsource: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:53] <TiMiDo> BurgerMann /boot
[07:53] <TiMiDo> bla
[07:53] <Cryptid> Where do i get XFree86?? please help
[07:53] <jroes> hmm
[07:54] <TiMiDo> Cryptid sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[07:54] <TiMiDo> or sudo apt-get install xserver-xfree86
[07:54] <jroes> so in ifconfig I see wlan0 connected with an IP address and everything
[07:54] <jroes> but
[07:54] <Seveas> Cryptid, xfree86 should NOT be used
[07:54] <butcherbird> !ubotu
[07:54] <nalioth> Cryptid: xfree86 for what?
[07:54] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:54] <jroes> I can't ping an outside IP address
[07:54] <Seveas> it's not supported and will NOT work
[07:54] <slept> wacko_jacko, :( , may you can get the 2.6.10-4 version somewhere
[07:54] <christian-> Seveas, Thanks!!
[07:54] <Cryptid> nalioth,for cedega
[07:54] <christian-> That worked
[07:54] <esac> is anybody here successfully using gmailfs ?
[07:54] <Seveas> nice
[07:54] <atripathi> Booting Windows in Grub gives some Cylinder Error. Why ?
[07:55] <Seveas> Cryptid, you don't need xfree for cedega, xorg works too
[07:55] <jroes> anyone know why I get "Network is unreachable" when I try to ping an outside IP address
[07:55] <wacko_jacko> slept: I'm trying to keep my system stable, but I guess it isn't working anyway, huh. :D
[07:55] <Seveas> jroes, because your cable is broken, router is malfunctioning, network connection is dead...
[07:55] <jroes> :(
[07:55] <jroes> hm
[07:55] <eko> god damnt i am cool
[07:55] <atripathi> does ubuntu dualboot with Windows2003 ?
[07:56] <jroes> even if I see my connection and everything in ifconfig?
[07:56] <jroes> I mean, it looks like I got assigned an IP address
[07:56] <jroes> I think it might have to do with setting a "gateway" or something, right?
[07:56] <wacko_jacko> seveas: I have the following error on boot: "Kernel Panic- not syncing:VFS:Unable to mount root fs on unknown -block(0,0)"
[07:56] <wacko_jacko> seveas: do you have any idea why?
[07:56] <jroes> don't I need to tell it that my gateway is 192.168.1.1 or something?  I don't know how to do that though :x
[07:56] <eko> guys, how can i upgrade my ubuntu 5.04 to the newest version (breezy)
[07:56] <Seveas> jroes, details about your network setup and config will help...
[07:56] <jroes> ok
[07:56] <butcherbird> eko: carefully
[07:56] <Seveas> wacko_jacko, homegrown kernel?
[07:56] <slept> wacko_jacko, if you want your system to be really stable use debian sarge
[07:56] <jroes> it's a linksys wireless card - I installed the drivers and modprobed ndiswrapper and I have wlan0
[07:57] <Seveas> slept, hoary is stable too...
[07:57] <Doonz> whats the command to completely flatten a windows 2k box from within windows
[07:57] <eko> butecherbird: lol! seriously
[07:57] <atripathi> ?
[07:57] <wacko_jacko> seveas: I'm running a vanilla ubuntu hoary.....I just allowed the update manager to update the system and now it won't boot.
[07:57] <jroes> then I have a wireless router in my room which seems to be working considering I'm on a wireless laptop typing this right now
[07:57] <Seveas> jroes, ok, put the output of ifconfig and iwconfig and sudo iwlist scan on the pastebin
[07:57] <jroes> yikes
[07:57] <Seveas> put your /etc/network/interfaces file there too
[07:57] <jroes> well the box isn't on the internet so I can't completely paste it
[07:57] <jroes> is there anything specific that would be helpful?
[07:58] <mr_roboto> jroes: I think you just need to do something like this to fix your gateway:   sudo route add default gw 192.168.1.1
[07:58] <jroes> I could type it all but things like mac address probably aren't needed :P
[07:58] <Seveas> put it in a file and use a floppy/usb stick to transfer the file :)
[07:58] <wacko_jacko> seveas: nothing homegrown.....everything is from the default ubuntu sources......I'm not even using universe or multiverse
[07:58] <butcherbird> eko: change hoary to breezy in sources.list file then apt-get update, then dist upgrade
[07:58] <jroes> hahaha awesome mr_roboto
[07:58] <jroes> that was it :)
[07:58] <jxpx> how can i remove a program in linux?
[07:58] <Seveas> wacko_jacko, hmm, sounds like a malfunctioning kernel upgrade
[07:58] <jxpx> *delete a prograam
[07:58] <TiMiDo> jxpx apt-get remove program
[07:58] <nalioth> jxpx: use synaptic
[07:58] <Seveas> jxpx, apt-get remove or use synaptic
[07:59] <eko> butcherbird: that's the answer i have searched for. another question, will it be upgraded correctly?
[07:59] <wacko_jacko> seveas: yeah....the ubuntu-update manager had a bunch of updates which I authorized and I think that one of them was related to the kernel.
[07:59] <eko> or there are chances there will be problems
[07:59] <Seveas> jroes, if you have a connection now, put your /etc/network/interfaces on the pastebin, it probably has an error
[07:59] <wacko_jacko> seveas: do you know how I can tell exactly what it did?
[07:59] <butcherbird> eko: most cases breezy should be fine now but there will be occational problems..
[07:59] <Seveas> wacko_jacko, breezy or hoary?
[07:59] <diox> hi, how do i install " The J2SE Runtime Environment (JRE) "
[07:59] <wacko_jacko> seveas: hoary
[07:59] <TiMiDo> !tell diox about java
[07:59] <Seveas> !tell diox about javadeb
[07:59] <TiMiDo> bla
[07:59] <eko> butcherbird: thank you!!! you're the man!!! :)
[07:59] <esac> is anybody using gmailfs ? everytime i try to mount it, i get a login error, and i am 100% sure the username/password are correct
[08:00] <Seveas> wacko_jacko, if you have a livecd, boot from it, chroot into your installed system and run mkinitrd
[08:00] <jroes> http://pastebin.com/379799
[08:00] <Seveas> that may solve this
[08:00] <wacko_jacko> ok
[08:00] <crispynix> esac: or maybe they were correct before google nuked your account ;)
[08:01] <Seveas> jroes, your dhcp server is broken if it does not assign a gateway...
[08:01] <wacko_jacko> seveas: I already have the chrooted environment. So I will just run mkinitrd now.
[08:01] <jroes> what's xfce's package name? :x
[08:01] <crispynix> esac: afaik, google doesn't officially sanction gmailfs
[08:01] <Seveas> wacko_jacko, great, then I don't have to explain the chrooting bit :)
[08:01] <esac> crispynix: that's ok, it's one of the spare 20 or so that i have :)
[08:01] <jroes> seveas: ah, that sucks... I probably just need to re-enable it or something then
[08:01] <Belutz> jroes, xfce4
[08:01] <jroes> "Couldn't find package xfce4"
[08:01] <jroes> :x
[08:01] <jroes> and apt-cache search xfce shows nothing
[08:01] <Belutz> !info xfce4
[08:01] <jroes> my sources.list must be scrfewed
[08:01] <ubotu> xfce4: (The Xfce4 Desktop Environment), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 4.2.1.1-2ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 2 kB, Installed size: 32 kB
[08:02] <wacko_jacko> seveas: do I have to run "mkinitrd" somewhere specific or can I just run it anywhere (as root)?
[08:02] <wacko_jacko> seveas: also, any particular flags?
[08:02] <Seveas> jroes, enable universe for xfce, see !repositories
[08:02] <Belutz> jroes, you have to enable the universe repos
[08:02] <Seveas> wacko_jacko, afaik it will run anywhere (as root is needed)
[08:03] <ui> where can i find the drivers for wingman extreme of logitech?
[08:03] <jroes> ahh
[08:04] <jroes> I just had the cdrom one anyways :x
[08:04] <wacko_jacko> seveas: I need to specify the output file yes? Should it be "/boot/initrd.img-<version>"
[08:04] <Seveas> yup
[08:04] <jroes> well guys
[08:04] <jroes> thanks a lot :)
[08:04] <jroes> thanks Seveas, rest your mind :)
[08:04] <christian-> Seveas, what's the command to fullscreen mplayer "!
[08:04] <zewnek> how can i put something new in synaptic?
[08:04] <jroes> and thanks again mr_roboto, that route command really kickstarted me :)
[08:04] <TiMiDo> christian- do gmplayer
[08:04] <nalioth> ubotu: tell zewnek about repos
[08:04] <Graphico> je suis bien sur ubuntu-fr ?
[08:04] <christian-> ok
[08:04] <nalioth> Graphico: pardon?
[08:05] <ui> where can i find the drivers for wingman extreme of logitech?  :(?
[08:05] <afd_> I'm trying to get gnome to connect to an ssh server, and I get "sftp: no default action" after it logs in? Any idea?
[08:05] <drsynackuator> english please
[08:05] <Graphico> je suis sur l'irc ubuntu-fr ??
[08:05] <nalioth> Graphico: je n'parle pas francais
[08:05] <christian-> bash: dmplayer: command not found
[08:05] <nalioth> Graphico: francais en #ubuntu-fr
[08:05] <wacko_jacko> ok, now for a reboot....I'll be back if it doesn't work....thanks for your help everyone (seveas and slept)
[08:05] <nalioth> Graphico: anglais ici
[08:05] <Graphico> comme rejoindre un autre salon ??
[08:05] <Graphico> comment ??
[08:05] <Seveas> Graphico, non, tu es en #ubuntu, va en #ubuntu-fr pour l'irc francais
[08:06] <Seveas> Graphico, /join #ubuntu-fr
[08:06] <Alex_BO> HELLO!I have a question: i have to use VNC client.Do I need X server or can I start it from shell?
[08:07] <boredofthesane> are there any good programs for linux for burning vcd's?
[08:07] <nalioth> boredofthesane: vcdimager
[08:08] <Alex_BO> halo?
[08:08] <zewnek> i have downloaded new packets...how can i install them?
[08:08] <mr_owen> hi
[08:08] <boredofthesane> thanks fellas
[08:08] <Ruslan> zewnek dpkg -i
[08:08] <ui> where can i find the drivers for wingman extreme of logitech?  :(?
[08:09] <ack> hey guys is there anyway I can get sshclient from windows autologin  to my unix
[08:10] <misterdiff> hi all
[08:10] <misterdiff> how do i set the default media player that gnome uses to mplayer
[08:10] <misterdiff> using breezy
[08:12] <spanglesontoast> why doesn't my subwoofer work in ubuntu
[08:12] <spindley> misterdiff, right click on the file in nautilus, go to the properties, then one of the tabs (can't remember for sure), and select mplayer from the list for default application
[08:12] <ui> where can i find the drivers for wingman extreme of logitech?
[08:12] <spindley> misterdiff, do that for mp3, mpg, etc.
[08:13] <ompaul> spanglesontoast, I doubt that it is a subwoofer issue, card maybe but the kit is all electronic usually
[08:14] <Erron> ubuntu doesn't come with gcc ?
[08:14] <TiMiDo> nope Erron sudo apt-get install gcc
[08:14] <Erron> ok
[08:15] <Mik0r> whats the package to install the java runtime environment
[08:15] <concept10> TiMiDo, Erron sudo apt-get install build-essential rather
[08:15] <spindley> Mik0r, jre1.4 or something...search for java in synaptic
[08:15] <spanglesontoast> no
[08:15] <spanglesontoast> i had it working
[08:15] <slept> ui, if people don't answer you after the 4th  time try to use google or wait for a while
[08:15] <Mik0r> i install java-common, that wasn't it
[08:15] <Mik0r> heh
[08:15] <spanglesontoast> I just need to know the .asoundrc setup
[08:16] <afd_> anybody has the public key for ftp.nerim.net ? I can't find it there
[08:16] <spindley> Mik0r, or 'sudo apt-cache search jre'
[08:16] <ui> slept :(
[08:16] <spindley> but, you should find it in synaptic
[08:17] <sorush20> how can i get this command to load everytime a print job is sent to my printer..
[08:18] <Erron> php isnt compiling anyone know why ./configure --with-libxml-dir=/usr/lib --disable-dom --disable-simplexml --without-pear --prefix=/var/clevereye/php5 --enable-cli --enable-cgi --with-zlib-dir=/usr
[08:18] <ekimus> Erron: possibly, if you tell us the error message too
[08:18] <Erron> yea meant to paste the error
[08:18] <Erron> says something about lex
[08:18] <Mik0r> hmmm, nothing comes up for jre
[08:18] <spindley> Mik0r, search open synaptic, click search, enter java
[08:19] <ekimus> !repos
[08:19] <ubotu> well, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[08:19] <Mik0r> i am there
[08:19] <spindley> er, well you know what i meant
[08:19] <ekimus> Mik0r: have a look at the repos ubotu just posted
[08:19] <ErronX> ok
[08:19] <Erron> checking lex output file root... ./configure: line 2428: lex: command not found
[08:19] <Erron> configure: error: cannot find output from lex; giving up
[08:19] <spindley> Mik0r, sorry, it should be 'j2re1.4'
[08:20] <Mik0r> j2re dont come up either
[08:20] <Seveas> Erron, then install a lexer :)
[08:20] <Mik0r> =/
[08:20] <Belutz> j2re1.4 is not available anymore in the repos
[08:20] <Erron> ok
[08:20] <Seveas> Erron, what are you compiling?
[08:20] <Seveas> !tell belutz about javadeb
[08:20] <Erron> php
[08:20] <Belutz> !tell Mik0r about javadeb
[08:20] <spanglesontoast> i have 5.1 sound and I want it to work :P
[08:20] <Seveas> lol, ok so you knew about it :)
[08:20] <Mik0r> jamvm? would that be it
[08:20] <Erron> can I apt-get it sev
[08:20] <Seveas> Erron, get it from the repositories
[08:20] <Belutz> Seveas, :D
[08:20] <Erron> no cant sev I gotta use the source
[08:21] <Seveas> Erron, why?
[08:21] <Erron> I have to compile it a certain way
[08:21] <Seveas> Erron, then apt-get source php4
[08:21] <Seveas> apt-get build-dep php4
[08:21] <Seveas> change debian/rules to meet your needs
[08:21] <Seveas> and use dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot
[08:21] <Seveas> and it builds you a .deb file which you can install
[08:22] <Erron> I cant apt get php5?
[08:22] <Seveas> sure you can
[08:22] <Erron> it says not found
[08:22] <Erron> the source I have is from php.net
[08:23] <Belutz> Seveas, php5 is in breezy repos not in hoary
[08:23] <Seveas> btw: if you need to rebuild to get certain modules: modules are in separate packages
[08:23] <Seveas> Belutz/Erron php5 for hoary can be downloaded from people.debian.org/~dexter/
[08:23] <Erron> oh ok
[08:23] <Seveas> those are the packages that later went into Breezy
[08:23] <Belutz> Seveas, i see :)
[08:23] <Erron> alrighty thanks
[08:23] <rubem> hi there...
[08:24] <Belutz> Seveas, how come you know so much? :D
[08:24] <rubem> why java aplications don't start when I put then in the menu with smeg?
[08:24] <butcherbird> Belutz: he a bot
[08:24] <rubem> if I do:
[08:24] <Belutz> butcherbird, lol
[08:24] <butcherbird> !Seveas
[08:24] <ubotu> butcherbird: I don't know
[08:24] <rubem> java -jar /java/eclipse/startup.jar
[08:24] <Belutz> Seveas is not a bot
[08:25] <rubem> if i put this in menu, that did not work!
[08:25] <rubem> why?
[08:25] <crispynix> rubem: is smeg the official gnome menu editor?
[08:25] <rubem> yes
[08:25] <crispynix> rubem: just curious :)
[08:26] <rubem> anyone?
[08:26] <crispynix> heh, that's just sad.
[08:26] <Seveas> crispynix, no gnome has its own editor
[08:26] <Seveas> it's the official ubuntu menu editor though
[08:26] <rubem> oh, I thougth it was it :P
[08:26] <rubem> living'n'leraning
[08:26] <crispynix> Seveas: again, you mean? great.
[08:27] <Belutz> Seveas, should i run apt-get dist-upgrade right now?
[08:28] <Dr_Willis> hmm.. i never have learned how apt-get upgrade is different from apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:29] <Aragorn_Guardian> hi all
[08:29] <Cryptid> Seveas, i cannot find mldonkey in Synapticwhere can i get it from
[08:29] <thechitowncubs> I need some help setting up my wireless at a friends house
[08:29] <rubem> what's the address of the ubuntu mailing list?
[08:29] <thechitowncubs> I can connect to the AP but I can't recieve an ip address or anything.
[08:30] <Seveas> !info mldonkey
[08:30] <thechitowncubs> And when I try to set a static IP I still can't access the internet
[08:30] <Dr_Willis> can you ping his wireless router by ip?
[08:30] <ali4728> Does any one know what this means :x-session manager: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgnimeui-2.so.0: indefined symbol: D$^DC^D$^A"
[08:30] <Anak1n> thechi..: try pppoeconf
[08:30] <Seveas> !info mldonkey breezy
[08:30] <shinu> can i regulate how much cpu a process can use?
[08:30] <Seveas> dang
[08:30] <Seveas> and yet I have it installed
[08:30] <thechitowncubs> Anak1n, pppoeconf?
[08:30] <rubem> can I install the nvidia drivers from apt-get in ubuntu 5.04????
[08:31] <thechitowncubs> why could I try to do that?
[08:31] <Aragorn_Guardian> !info mldonkey
[08:31] <Cryptid> seveas how do it get it
[08:31] <Anak1n> type in console pppoeconf or sudo pppoeconf
[08:31] <Aragorn_Guardian> !info squid
[08:31] <ubotu> squid: (Internet Object Cache (WWW proxy cache)), section web, is optional. Version: 2.5.8-3ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 722 kB, Installed size: 2072 kB
[08:31] <Anak1n> rubem: yes
[08:31] <Cryptid> Y isnt the !info thing working
[08:31] <rubem> Anak1n: what package?
[08:32] <Cryptid> mldonkey
[08:32] <Anak1n> rubem: just a sec
[08:32] <slept> shinu, try man nice
[08:32] <thechitowncubs> Anak1n, it isn't a pppoe network
[08:32] <shinu> slept: k, right away
[08:32] <rubem> Anak1n: what == which ... sorry about my english...
[08:33] <Anak1n> rubem:  nvidia-glx ; nvidia-settings
[08:34] <rubem> Anak1n: thank you, what about nvidia-kernel-common and source?
[08:34] <thechitowncubs> I really would like some help, I've ran out of ideas trying to set this up
[08:34] <Anak1n> rubem: I think U need linux-headers-2.6.10
[08:34] <thechitowncubs> maybe another brain would help :P
[08:35] <Anak1n> rubem: I install it yestrday :))
[08:35] <Anak1n> and it's working fine
[08:35] <Anak1n> rubem: look http://ubuntuguide.org/
[08:35] <tristanmike> how do i stop all the spam I'm getting?
[08:36] <Belutz> !ubuntuguide
[08:36] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is, like, out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[08:36] <thechitowncubs> !ipw2200
[08:36] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, thechitowncubs
[08:36] <thechitowncubs> !wireless
[08:36] <ubotu> wireless is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[08:37] <butcherbird> tristanmike: what email client are you using?
[08:38] <afd_> how do I get mp3 playback in rhytmbox? Don't say install w32codecs, those are for mplayer
[08:38] <tristanmike> butcherbird, sorry, I meant here on irc, stupid idiots are spamming me
[08:38] <thechitowncubs> if anyone can offer me help with my wireless i would appreciate it sooo much
[08:38] <pablo_> what do I have to do to be able to edit /etc/apt/sources.list and or how do you get root so you can do things like that? (sorry for n00b question)
[08:39] <afd_> pablo_, sudo bash, enter the password that you gave at install
[08:39] <pablo_> ok cool
[08:39] <pablo_> thanks
[08:39] <thechitowncubs> here is the problem... i can scan for the network and it finds it, try to connect... it says its connected, then i try to use the internet... nothing works, i don't believe it assigned me an ip, and i even tried with a static ip and nothing happened
[08:39] <thechitowncubs> and when i'm allegedly connected with the router i can't ping the router either
[08:40] <rubem> how do I restart the x?
[08:40] <pablo_> could be a ip issue
[08:40] <Dr_Willis> if you cant even ping the router - sounds like a connection issue.
[08:40] <pablo_> just cause you are connected doesnt mean you are networked
[08:40] <Dr_Willis> or gateway issue.
[08:40] <pablo_> wifi will associate withone any ip's installed
[08:41] <pablo_> without*
[08:41] <treitter> is the goal to eventually remove synaptic, and just have the users use Add Programs?
[08:41] <thechitowncubs> pablo_, thats what i think, i get connected, then i look at iwconfig, it shows the bit rate and tx rate and thats good
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> check the file /etc/resolve(??).conf  (i think) :P it should have your gateway listed
[08:41] <pablo_> yep
[08:41] <zxsykco> route add default gw 192.168.0.1 or whatever your router ip is..
[08:41] <thechitowncubs> but then when i look at ifconfig it doens't show an ip
[08:41] <pablo_> that is what is wrong
[08:41] <pablo_> you have no ip
[08:41] <pablo_> and subnet
[08:41] <pablo_> mask
[08:42] <thechitowncubs> so should i just do what zxsykco said?
[08:42] <Dr_Willis> may as well :P
[08:42] <Dr_Willis> if you now the routers ip
[08:42] <thechitowncubs> i do
[08:42] <thechitowncubs> 192.168.1.1
[08:42] <thechitowncubs> and that is what it says in network settings also
[08:42] <zxsykco> Do you have dhcp running on your router/network somewhere? if not you need to assign an IP as well!
[08:42] <thechitowncubs> but its worth a try
[08:43] <thechitowncubs> zxsykco, ya i do have dhcp running
[08:43] <thechitowncubs> my friends xp box gets an ip right away
[08:43] <zxsykco> Well you should be able to pull an address with dhcpcd or dhcpd!
[08:44] <rubem> Anak1n: it worked!!!! thank you!
[08:45] <Anak1n> rubem : np
[08:45] <rubem> what program do you recomend for burning .isos?
[08:46] <Anak1n> rubem: k3b or gnomebaker
[08:46] <rubem> Anak1n: k3b or gnomebaker? :)
[08:46] <Anak1n> rubem: do u mean *.iso ?
[08:46] <thechitowncubs_> alright well that didn't work
[08:47] <thechitowncubs_> i'm plugged in right now
[08:47] <mr_owen> hi
[08:47] <zxsykco> Ahoy!
[08:47] <thechitowncubs_> Bit Rate=54 Mb/s   Tx-Power=20 dBm
[08:47] <rubem> Anak1n: no, burning iso and files in general
[08:47] <mr_owen> i want to make my laptop dual boot with kubuntu and windows xp
[08:47] <mr_owen> how should i do this ?
[08:47] <esac> does anybody know of a programming IDE that supports vim command modes for editing ?
[08:47] <thechitowncubs_> but ifconfig still doesn't show
[08:47] <thechitowncubs_> anything
[08:47] <rubem> mr_owen: lilo
[08:48] <Anak1n> rubem: k3b or gnomebaker
[08:48] <thechitowncubs_> zxsykco, what was that command again?
[08:48] <esac> ubotu tell mr_owen about dualboot
[08:48] <zxsykco> route add default gw 192.168.0.1 or whatever your router ip is..
[08:48] <rubem> mr_owen: lilo or grub
[08:48] <Anak1n> !k3b
[08:48] <ubotu> Anak1n: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[08:48] <zxsykco> man route will give you an overview of what route does!
[08:48] <thechitowncubs_> i know that
[08:48] <zxsykco> Just checking!
[08:48] <thechitowncubs_> ok!
[08:48] <thechitowncubs_> SIOCADDRT: File exists
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> Moo?
[08:49] <zxsykco> If you like to check which routes are being used type netstat -r
[08:49] <youngcoder> how much hss space is needed fro ubuntu?
[08:49] <rubem> does Ubuntu configures a secure iptable rule by defaulr?
[08:49] <esac> i need lunch. any suggestions on what i should eat ?
[08:50] <thechitowncubs_> my wired connection has the correct route and that is how i am talking to you, but my eth1 wireless connection doesn't show any routes
[08:50] <rubem> youngcoder: it depends on which apps you intend to install
[08:50] <esac> crap ive become so reliant on this channel for help that i'm asking how to do lunch
[08:50] <rubem> youngcoder:
[08:50] <youngcoder> minimal
[08:50] <rubem> youngcoder: ubuntu itself isn't large
[08:50] <thechitowncubs_> zxsykco, do you have any other ideas?
[08:50] <rubem> youngcoder: I recommend at least 4 gb
[08:51] <rubem> youngcoder: because you surelly will install others apps
[08:51] <zxsykco> Specify routes for eth1 instead of eth0 the defualt!
[08:51] <thechitowncubs_> zxsykco, how can i do that?
[08:51] <rubem> youngcoder: I know apt-get, don't you? :)
[08:51] <zxsykco> tell route or dhcpcd or whatever to use eth1 as the interface.
[08:51] <eruin> anyone on latest breezy here?
[08:51] <zxsykco> Somethimes eth1 will do.
[08:52] <zxsykco> Sometimes you need to add a flag and eth1.
[08:52] <rubem> what kind of firewall do you recomend?
[08:52] <zxsykco> iptables.
[08:52] <rubem> iptables or firestarer?
[08:52] <thechitowncubs_> sudo route eth1 add default gw 192.168.1.1???
[08:52] <zxsykco> iptables.
[08:52] <pablo_> I added "deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ ubuntu-seveas madwifi" to "/etc/apt/sources.list" but when I do "sudo aptitude install madwifi-source gcc-3.4 linux-headers-$(uname -r)" I get "Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "madwifi-source"No packages will beinstalled,upgraded, or removed.0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[08:52] <zxsykco> Try it!
[08:52] <pablo_> and ideas?
[08:52] <zxsykco> If you do not get an error it worked.
[08:53] <thechitowncubs_> zxsykco, ya i got an error
[08:53] <rubem> zxsikco: I'm not a *nix pro, some comunities share a common iptable configuration
[08:53] <zxsykco> Well, check man route for the syntax for specifying the interface as I'm lazy and busy!
[08:53] <rubem> zxsikco: do you know a good one for ubuntu?
[08:54] <zxsykco> I use iptables.
[08:54] <Garyu> hrm, i need some help installing my new DVD-burner
[08:54] <Cryptid> !gnomebaker
[08:54] <ubotu> Cryptid: Do they come in packets of five?
[08:54] <zxsykco> gnomebaker is a cd burning app.
[08:54] <Garyu> How do I proceed after putting the hardware in my computer? Should it just -work- like that
[08:54] <thechitowncubs_> zxsykco, network is unreachable
[08:54] <searcher`> Garyu: just use nautilus to compose a dvd
[08:55] <pablo_> where is my madwifi peoples?
[08:55] <pablo_> I need some help plx
[08:55] <searcher`> Garyu: and burn just like you would a normal cd-r
[08:55] <esac> !ask
[08:55] <pablo_> I added "deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ ubuntu-seveas madwifi" to "/etc/apt/sources.list" but when I do "sudo aptitude install madwifi-source gcc-3.4 linux-headers-$(uname -r)" I get "Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "madwifi-source"No packages will beinstalled,upgraded, or removed.0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[08:55] <zxsykco> Can you ping your router with eth1?
[08:55] <searcher`> pablo_: did you run apt-get update?
[08:55] <thechitowncubs_> zxsykco, no
[08:56] <zxsykco> Can you ping your router with eth0?
[08:56] <Garyu> searcher`: I don't need to change any settings?
[08:56] <pablo_> no searcher I did not
[08:56] <Garyu> just use it..?
[08:56] <Garyu> ..because the damn thing doesn't seem to be responding
[08:56] <searcher`> Garyu: should work just like that
[08:56] <n00bster> hi, is there a windows xp Emulator in ubuntu ?
[08:57] <zxsykco> The kernel needs to have support for the device as well as any apps that may use it.
[08:57] <Garyu> searcher`: hmmmmm
[08:57] <esac> pablo_: anytime you modify sources.list you need to run sudo apt-get update in order to download the list of packages, otherwise apt-get doesn't know about them
[08:57] <zxsykco> I compile my own kernel so...
[08:57] <BooZee> how can I change from one language to another? (alt+shift in windows)
[08:57] <pablo_> hmm
[08:57] <Garyu> zxsykco: I got the default 2.6 ubuntu kernel
[08:57] <pablo_> ok let me try
[08:57] <zxsykco> Yep.
[08:57] <Garyu> but k3b isn't doing anything
[08:57] <nico31> hi
[08:57] <TiMiDo> nico31 hello
[08:57] <n00bster> hi, is there a windows xp Emulator in ubuntu ?
[08:58] <zovirl> I'm trying to install ogre on my 5.04 system.  This page suggests I can just install the version from debian, but synaptic wants to upgrade a LOT of stuff (like libc6, libstdc++6, locales).  Is that a good idea?
[08:58] <zxsykco> Id' like for the kernel mod that supports your hardware and try insmod!
[08:58] <zovirl> (bah...this page == http://www.ogre3d.org/wiki/index.php/Installing_An_SDK#Ubuntu)
[08:58] <searcher`> Garyu: you can use `dmesg' from a terminal to see if the DVD burner get recognized correctly at boot-time
[08:58] <Cryptid> How do i Install .tar.bz2 files
[08:58] <nico31> anyone would help me with ubuntu and sound
[08:58] <zxsykco> Otherwise you will have to compile the mod into the kernel...
[08:58] <zovirl> cryptid that's probably a source distribution.  You have to compile it
[08:58] <zxsykco> Unless ubuntu has something fancy to do that for you!
[08:58] <Garyu> whegh, that gives a whole lot of "hdc: lost interrupt" messages
[08:59] <zovirl> cryptid which is possible but if you can find the same package using apt/synaptic your life will be easier
[08:59] <Cryptid> zovirl, how do i do that can u help me
[08:59] <searcher`> Garyu: is /dev/hdc your dvd burner?
[08:59] <zovirl> cryptid what package is it?
[08:59] <Garyu> yeah
[08:59] <Garyu> it should be ;)
[08:59] <Cryptid> zovirl well i found that package but it dosent work so i got this other file
[08:59] <Cryptid> zovirl mldonkey
[08:59] <searcher`> Garyu: try turning off the pc and check the cable connections
[08:59] <pablo_> where do I get this module-assistant (virutal package?)
[08:59] <redrum> !
[09:00] <Garyu> searcher`: good idea
[09:00] <searcher`> Garyu: don't mess with the cables when the pc is on :-)
[09:00] <Cryptid> zovirl mldonkey 2.6.4
[09:00] <Garyu> searcher`: :)
[09:00] <Garyu> my dev/hdd doesn't get recognized anymore either (dvd-rom)
[09:00] <zovirl> cryptid so it was in the apt repositories but it didn't work?
[09:00] <zxsykco> you need to edit fstab.
[09:01] <zovirl> cryptid my guess is getting that work would be easier than compiling from scratch
[09:01] <searcher`> Garyu: then the cable on the motherboard is probably loose
[09:01] <Garyu>     ide0: BM-DMA at 0xfc00-0xfc07, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA
[09:01] <Garyu>     ide1: BM-DMA at 0xfc08-0xfc0f, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:pio
[09:01] <zovirl> cryptid however, if you want to compile it, the first step is to uncompress it.
[09:01] <zxsykco> man tar!
[09:01] <Garyu> searcher`: I'll take a look at it, first reading the dmesg output.. it's quite long :-/
[09:02] <pablo_> can someone tell me how to resolve this please...   Depends: module-assistant which is a virtual package.
[09:02] <Garyu> but thanks for the tip, I wasn't too sure about the connections already because the cables are hardly long enough
[09:02] <zxsykco> man man ..
[09:02] <zovirl> cryptid this page has lots of examples of how to uncompress different formats: http://www.linuxgazette.com/node/9542
[09:02] <Garyu> just hope my PSU will take the extra load.. now two HD's, a DVD-rom and a burner
[09:03] <zovirl> cryptid for .tar.bz2, you can run: tar -jxvf whatever.tar.bz2
[09:04] <nalioth> Garyu: what size is it?
[09:04] <Garyu> this is also in my dmesg output: "ide-cd: cmd 0x3 timed out"
[09:04] <searcher`> Garyu: i have the same on a cheap psu that came with the case (300W)
[09:04] <Garyu> 300W Zalman PSU
[09:04] <searcher`> no problems
[09:04] <Garyu> searcher`: okay, thanks for the reassurance :)
[09:04] <Garyu> then I'll just powerdown and recheck the cables
[09:05] <Garyu> k3b-output: /usr/bin/cdrecord: Permission denied. WARNING: Cannot set priority using setpriority().
[09:05] <Garyu> that doesn't sound good, does it?
[09:05] <BooZee> Hello. I'm using gnome. How can I switch (with a shortcut) between my systems languages? (The Alt+Shift action in windows)
[09:06] <zxsykco> sudo chmod 777 *.*
[09:06] <zxsykco> J/k!
[09:06] <j0nas`> does anybody have wireless networking with WEP working?  i'm having a little trouble
[09:06] <searcher`> Garyu: that means cdrecord isn't being run as root
[09:06] <Garyu> yeah, logically..
[09:06] <Garyu> root is not enabled
[09:06] <rubem> all: apt-get install kolf!
[09:06] <rubem> kolf RULEZ!
[09:06] <farion> does anyone know when breezy will release
[09:06] <Garyu> should I run sudo cdrecord?
[09:07] <TiMiDo> farion not yet on october i believed
[09:07] <j0nas`> farion: oct. 15
[09:07] <zxsykco> If you would like to use root .. type sudo passwd and supply the passwd you wish to use for root!
[09:07] <farion> :)
[09:07] <Garyu> zxsykco: yeah, i know
[09:07] <searcher`> Garyu: no, you don't use cdrecord directly (well you could, but it's a little more difficult)
[09:07] <farion> j0nas where do u get that date
[09:07] <mihai> I have a question. why does not ubuntu have gaim 1.5.0?
[09:07] <searcher`> Garyu: for dvd's you need growisofs btw
[09:07] <j0nas`> from the development schedule www.ubuntu.com
[09:07] <Garyu> just trying to burn a cdrom first :)
[09:08] <Dr_Willis> mihai,  package updates are slow and  sure.. not cutting edge all the time.
[09:08] <funkyHat> i've got a debian box that i'm running some X clients on... and it doesn't have a window manager or any desktop installed.
[09:08] <pablo_> madwifi-source: Depends: module-assistant which is a virtual package.
[09:08] <pablo_>  can someone please tell me what needs to be done to resolve this
[09:08] <Garyu> it's my first cd/dvd-burning effort in Linux. My previous burner didn't get recognized at all
[09:08] <searcher`> Garyu: if you add your user to the `cdrom' group you'll probably get rid of that permission error
[09:08] <funkyHat> how would i go about changing the gtk theme for those apps?
[09:08] <Garyu> okay
[09:08] <mihai> dr_hasselhoff, I understand that, but gaim 1.5.0 is out some months now
[09:08] <j0nas`> has anyone had any luck with WEP?
[09:08] <j0nas`> it simply refuses to work for me
[09:08] <zxsykco> Yes.
[09:09] <Cryptid> zovirl thanx
[09:09] <zxsykco> I forget right now though, sorry.
[09:09] <mihai> Dr_Willis, I understand that, but gaim 1.5.0 is out some months now
[09:09] <mihai> j0nas` has anyone had any luck with WEP?
[09:09] <BROKEN_LADDER> okay, package "epiphany-browser" installs a browser that is executed as "epiphany".  package "epiphany" installs a game that is called "epiphany-game".  anyone else see the problem?
[09:09] <Garyu> there is no cdrom group?
[09:09] <cdloe> Hallo, i am new
[09:09] <searcher`> Garyu: i'm using hoary, and i have that group
[09:09] <searcher`> Garyu: came default
[09:10] <Garyu> i also have hoary, but no cdrom group?
[09:10] <zxsykco> ??
[09:10] <searcher`> Garyu: cat /etc/group|grep cdrom
[09:10] <Garyu> under System > Administration > Users and Groups > .. you mean, right?
[09:10] <searcher`> Garyu: yup
[09:10] <searcher`> Garyu: double click on the user and there should a ckeckbox for access to cdrom drives on one of the tabpages
[09:11] <Garyu> cdrom:x:24:hal,nora,arjan
[09:11] <searcher`> *checkbox
[09:11] <Garyu> so yeah, I have rights on cdrom (I'm arjan)
[09:11] <searcher`> Garyu: you have a group cdrom
[09:11] <Garyu> doh
[09:11] <searcher`> Garyu: then i don't know
[09:11] <searcher`> :-)
[09:11] <Garyu> strange
[09:11] <Garyu> but I'll check the cables first, who knows
[09:12] <pablo_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[09:12] <pablo_>   madwifi-source: Depends: module-assistant which is a virtual package.
[09:12] <pablo_> how do I fix that please?
[09:12] <funkyHat> pablo_, do sudo apt-get install module-assistant
[09:12] <funkyHat> and look at the output
[09:13] <pablo_> ok
[09:13] <pablo_> er
[09:13] <funkyHat> and choose one of the packages that it depends on
[09:13] <pablo_> this apt-get is all net to me
[09:13] <pablo_> thanks
[09:13] <funkyHat> and apt-get install that
[09:13] <funkyHat> then it should work
[09:13] <delltony> is there a way to force an eject of a cdrom ? it says device busy but the device is idle
[09:13] <Dr_Willis> delltony,  forceing it may make it unusable till you reboot.
[09:13] <zxsykco> Maybe the device is mounted.
[09:13] <delltony> well i tried to umount it
[09:14] <n00bster> hi, is there a windows os, Emulator in ubuntu ? (like Viryal PC in windows) ? ?
[09:14] <nalioth> pablo_: use synaptic. it's easier to keep track of things
[09:14] <delltony> but it says cdrom0 device busy
[09:14] <Dr_Willis> un mount has a force option. that may be the best bet to try first
[09:14] <zxsykco> wine!
[09:14] <ompaul> dell500, typing eject at the command line can help
[09:14] <Dr_Willis> i think the gnome auto-mounter thing gets confused at times.
[09:14] <delltony> it doesn't help ;)
[09:14] <delltony> i tried that :)
[09:14] <zxsykco> Wine is the windows emulator!
[09:14] <thechitowncubs> hey everyone i got my wireless working
[09:14] <pablo_> Package module-assistant is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[09:14] <pablo_> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[09:14] <pablo_> is only available from another source
[09:14] <pablo_> E: Package module-assistant has no installation candidate
[09:14] <pablo_> what does that mena
[09:15] <cdloe> Bin hier neu und voellig hilflos.
[09:15] <zxsykco> Good.
[09:15] <pablo_> I am outta luck?
[09:15] <Dr_Willis> wine is not really an emulator - in the same sence that vmware, qemu, or dosbox is.
[09:15] <thechitowncubs> the problem was that the wireless key in /etc/network/interfaces had my WEP key from home
[09:15] <SGershon> I don't believe.
[09:15] <SGershon> I studied this thread: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=247502&postcount=1 , then I installed Breezy 5.10 on top of my Hoary 5.04, and the network device still displays as "Network Device Not Found".
[09:15] <SGershon> I tried to install the driver, but it says that the gcc I'm using is not the same used to compile the Kernel.
[09:15] <SGershon> Is it already time to go crazy?
[09:15] <RockyBurt> lol, vmware isn't really an emulator either
[09:15] <delltony> even umount -f says the same thing
[09:15] <nalioth> cdloe: pardon me?
[09:15] <funkyHat> !module-assistant
[09:15] <ubotu> funkyHat: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[09:15] <BooZee> My dns servers (which I added to "Networking") keeps disapearing everytime I start my computer!
[09:15] <thechitowncubs> whats the best way to get movies playing in epiphany/firefox
[09:16] <nalioth> thechitowncubs:  mplayer plugin
[09:16] <thechitowncubs> totem just doesn't want to play anything
[09:16] <thechitowncubs> nalioth, are you on breezy or hoary?
[09:16] <munkeman> hello everyone  i tiried instal enlightenment on brezzy through apt but ut doesnt shoe up on login screen but blackbox and fulxbox do i instaled them the same way any ideas
[09:16] <nalioth> thechitowncubs: it doesnt matter. ppc doesnt use any of that rot
[09:16] <TiMiDo> munkeman startx enlightment
[09:16] <thechitowncubs> heh
[09:16] <funkyHat> pablo_, follow the tutorial that ubotu is about to tell you in a private message, and then try to install madwifi again
[09:17] <nalioth> munkeman: known problem. search the forums for "enlightenment.desktop"
[09:17] <munkeman> timido: thanks will try
[09:17] <nalioth> thechitowncubs: ppc doesnt use any w32codecs, so player plugin TRIES to play, but fails
[09:17] <j0nas`> thechitowncubs: what size key are you using for WEP?
[09:17] <mirak> what equivalent is there to gzip but for binaries ?
[09:17] <Dr_Willis> theres severla window managers that dont show up on the Login screen.  :P
[09:17] <j0nas`> thechitowncubs: also, what hardware do you have?
[09:17] <nalioth> mirak: i dont understand
[09:17] <pablo_> great thansk
[09:18] <BooZee> anybody?
[09:18] <nalioth> Dr_Willis: do you know how to fix that?
[09:18] <j0nas`> thechitowncubs: WEP simply refuses to work on my system... intel iw2200
[09:18] <j0nas`> ah shit hes gone isnt he
[09:18] <Dr_Willis> nalioth,  make a correct WHATEVER.desktop file where gdm looks  and there ya go.
[09:18] <Dr_Willis> nalioth,  now where they go.. i forget. :P
[09:18] <nalioth> Dr_Willis: i know. was askin if you did. good knowin it
[09:19] <nalioth> Dr_Willis: /usr/share/xsessions/
[09:19] <Dr_Willis> normall just copy icewm.desktop or whatever over to enlightment.desktop edit the file to run the rght prog.
[09:19] <mirak> nalioth: I want to copy my hard drive and compress with a minimum efficiency
[09:19] <munkeman> nalioth: thnanx
[09:19] <j0nas`> anybody here good with wireless networking?  i need a hand
[09:19] <nalioth> mirak: bzip2 compresses the best, imho
[09:20] <BooZee> help with some network probs?
[09:20] <mirak> nalioth: I don't want best, I want fast
[09:20] <TiMiDo> what's wrong BooZee
[09:20] <BooZee> My dns servers (which I added to "Networking") keeps disapearing everytime I start my computer! (hoary, gnome)
[09:20] <j0nas`> BooZee yes
[09:21] <TiMiDo> BooZee did you put it on /etc/resolv.conf ?
[09:21] <Garyu> there I am again
[09:21] <Dr_Willis> BooZee,  i am having the EXACT same problem
[09:21] <Garyu> somehow, I guess, a cd-player and a burner on one cable as master and slave was conflicting
[09:21] <BooZee> no, I did it graphicly.. System -> Administration -> Networking
[09:21] <tungsten> greetings from pa
[09:21] <Seveas> BooZee, dhcp and manual dns won't work out of the box
[09:21] <Dr_Willis> BooZee,  i just make a working resolv.conf and copy it back at boot time
[09:21] <Seveas> !dns-dhcp
[09:21] <ubotu> Using static DNS with DHCP: http://pastebin.com/370390
[09:21] <Seveas> look at that for some hints
[09:22] <Garyu> searcher`: the cdburner seems to work now without a problem
[09:22] <Garyu> took out the player :)
[09:22] <TiMiDo> Seveas it's on blank
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> :P that a blank url from the bot.
[09:22] <Seveas> bleh, already gone
[09:22] <BooZee> so if i'll edit this file, it will be good?
[09:22] <TiMiDo> yeah
[09:22] <Seveas> sec, I'll recreate it on the ubuntu wiki
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> lol
[09:23] <alegomes> gnome-panel doesn't start. What could it be?
[09:23] <thechitowncubs> I wish skype didn't take up all the audio
[09:23] <pablo_> hey thanks for the link funkyhat and ubotu
[09:23] <cdloe> anyone outhere speaking german?
[09:23] <clast> ja ich
[09:23] <funkyHat> did it work pablo_?
[09:23] <Seveas> cdloe, #ubuntu-de
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> Neit! :P
[09:23] <BooZee> the nameservers already show in this file...
[09:24] <pablo_> its compiling the madwifi drivers now :)
[09:24] <funkyHat> :)
[09:24] <clast> alegomes: is your system up-to-date?
[09:24] <alegomes> clast: I think so
[09:24] <Dr_Willis> BooZee,  i have to edit/remake the file every time i boot - something in the resolover service or somthing is messing it up for me all the time. :(
[09:25] <alegomes> I'v tried to upgrade gnome-panel package, but I get some errors msgs
[09:25] <zxsykco> Nicht ser gut!
[09:25] <cdloe> bin ein neuer Ubuntu Nutzer  - hatte nach einen PC-Crasch und einer Diskussion mit Microschrott die Nase voll.
[09:25] <alegomes> at update time, I get 404 error
[09:25] <nalioth> cdloe: bitte sprechen sie im #ubuntu-de
[09:25] <clast> cdloe: join #ubuntu-de das sind alle deutsch
[09:25] <BooZee> Dr_Willis: than something on the boot is changing it. what is it? what scripts that run on startup deal with DNS ?
[09:26] <zovirl> can anyone here help me install ogre from debian?  http://www.ogre3d.org/wiki/index.php/Installing_An_SDK#Ubuntu makes it sound easy but synaptic wants to upgrade LOTS of stuff (libc6, libstc++6, linux-image)
[09:27] <minamhere> is it possible to install ubuntu from a knoppix disc?
[09:27] <Dr_Willis> BooZee,  theres some sort of resolover service that changes the stuff. check the top of resolov.conf and it mentions it.
[09:27] <tungsten> can you hear me?
[09:27] <n00bster> can somone plz assist me ?
[09:27] <Seveas> TiMiDo, Dr_Willis https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StaticDnsWithDhcp
[09:27] <Dr_Willis> minamhere,  not really
[09:27] <pablo_> thanks guys gotta reboot and see if I have madwifi now
[09:27] <minamhere> how about a mini install cd?
[09:27] <alegomes> Does http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net  still exist?
[09:27] <Seveas> alegomes, fortunately not
[09:28] <tungsten> noobster: what;'s up
[09:28] <minamhere> ive got 190 swap on knoppix, so i can burn a cd that big, but it seems not existant
[09:28] <clast> n00bster: what' the problem
[09:28] <Seveas> those backports were crappy
[09:28] <Seveas> official backports should be used instead
[09:28] <zxsykco> Microchrott die Nase voll? Was ist das?
[09:28] <alegomes> where can I find a list of then?
[09:28] <nalioth> alegomes: search planet.ubuntulinux.org for "backport"
[09:28] <alegomes> ubuntuguide.org still have that old link
[09:29] <Seveas> zxsykco, stick to english in here
[09:29] <Seveas> alegomes, ubuntuguide.org is pure crap
[09:29] <zxsykco> Certainly!
[09:29] <nemui> hi
[09:29] <thechitowncubs> has anyone successfully played a wmv video inside a browser with totem?
[09:29] <thechitowncubs> with the totem plugin?
[09:29] <clast> zxsykco: He meant he's fed up with Microsofts BS
[09:29] <kevogod> Does Breezy have a problem with automounting CD-Roms? It is giving me trouble. It does not automount after boot and when it is mounted, the CD-Rom title is not displayed.
[09:29] <nemui> can somebody recomend me a good video player?
[09:30] <zxsykco> Ah. I was wondering how that was his problem!
[09:30] <thechitowncubs> nemui, totem
[09:30] <nuberus> nemui use xine
[09:30] <tungsten> hey my cottom panel is blank?
[09:30] <nemui> lol
[09:30] <nemui> ^^ thanks
[09:30] <tungsten> hey my bttom panel is blank?
[09:30] <dap_weg> nemu: totem-xine
[09:30] <clast> totem-xine nemui
[09:30] <gm78> tungsten: My mom's computer does that all of the time on Ubuntu. She has to manually re-add all of the things on it
[09:30] <clast> :-P
[09:30] <nemui> clast, thanks
[09:30] <dap_weg> yeah :)
[09:30] <tga> my gthumb suddenly doesn't display thumbnails anymore
[09:30] <gm78> tungsten: have'nt been able to find a solution so far
[09:31] <tungsten> if I open more than one screen I don't get the icons
[09:31] <major_payne> How can I install an older version of a package using apt?
[09:31] <nemui> clast, does it support divx?
[09:31] <tungsten> panel is prob the wrong word
[09:31] <clast> major_payne: apt-get -f install
[09:32] <clast> nemui: yes!
[09:32] <major_payne> clast: thanks
[09:32] <intrac> hi
[09:32] <minamhere> does there exist a small ubuntu install cd, such that i install minimal at first then install more from net later?
[09:32] <nemui> clast, ^_^ cool, thanks
[09:32] <tungsten> I have xchat and mozilla up  but they do not appear in the bottom as icons
[09:32] <alegomes> minamhere: what about ubuntulite.org?
[09:32] <tungsten> I have kubuntu installed it works fine
[09:32] <clast> nemui: you might have to install the w32codecs, I'm not sure though!
[09:32] <minamhere> aleg: checking it out now
[09:33] <SGershon> My Ubuntu Breezy 5.10 says "Network Device not Found".
[09:34] <SGershon> What you recommend?
[09:34] <gm78> tungsten: yes, it is a problem like i said earlier. you have to readd the window list and all of the other things on the bottom panel
[09:34] <Seveas> install a network device
[09:34] <clast> SGershon: where do you get that?
[09:34] <tga> ubuntulite is similar to xubuntu
[09:34] <SGershon> Thnks! Seveas!
[09:34] <SGershon> I have a Marvell Yukon installed.
[09:34] <tga> they should just merge forces
[09:34] <Seveas> SGershon, install a real one :)
[09:34] <SGershon> I get that in the "Network" GUI.
[09:34] <tga> SGershon, lspci to see what chipset that is
[09:34] <ubuntu> .org
[09:35] <tga> .cx
[09:35] <SGershon> Ok. I'll reboot, enter ubuntu, lspci, then come back with the result. Will you wait for me?  ;)
[09:35] <d33p> I installed the ati drivers referenced in ubuntuguide.com, fgl_gxgears runs good, but when I play a video file full screen it doesn't antialias and see massive pixels, with the mesa not 3d accelerated driver it antialiased :( trying to install the closed ati driver from the ati page but it gives me pipe error since it tries to overrite stuff already installed when I alien the rpm
[09:35] <minamhere> ubuntu lite is too big to burn using knoppix right now
[09:35] <Seveas> d33p, ubuntuguide is crap
[09:36] <Seveas> drivers installed from ati.com will only give errors
[09:36] <d33p> Seveas, good starter but just that... starter
[09:36] <tga> SGershon, sounds like a lot of work.. you need to figure out exactly what chipset that is so you find a driver for it
[09:36] <Seveas> use ubuntu-provided ati drivers
[09:36] <tga> SGershon, did you try to google for your card name?
[09:36] <Seveas> d33p, for starters it's the worst
[09:36] <SGershon> Can I figure it from WinXP?
[09:36] <clast> d33P: install drivers from the ubuntu sources and run fglrxconfig
[09:36] <Seveas> since it contains nothing but crud
[09:36] <SGershon> I even found the topic: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=47615&page=4
[09:37] <SGershon> From there I learned that installing Breezy should work (jump to page 5 or 6).
[09:37] <d33p> clast, how do I install drivers from the ubuntu sources?
[09:37] <SGershon> I installed Breezy 5.10, but it did not work!  :(
[09:37] <tga> SGershon, they say here there are two Yukons
[09:38] <clast> d33p: e.g. with synaptic! search for fglrx
[09:38] <tga> SGershon, did you sudo modprobe ns83820?
[09:38] <Doonz> is there a major change from hoary to breezy?
[09:38] <SGershon> what does this do?
[09:38] <clast> Doonz: tons of them
[09:38] <d33p> clast, that's what I did before and doesn't antialias movies on full screen, well, let me check with fglrxconfig ;S
[09:38] <tga> SGershon, it loads the driver module that might talk to your card
[09:39] <Doonz> ok so it would be beneficial to me to upgrade to brrezy now?
[09:39] <tga> SGershon, after that you should take a look at the last lines of `dmesg` to see what it's doing
[09:39] <clast> d33p: you need to run it as root! sudo fglrxconfig
[09:39] <tga> SGershon, and maybe try `ifconfig -a` to see if you suddenly have an eth0
[09:39] <clast> d33p: the default choices are good, besides keyboard layout and stuff
[09:40] <tga> SGershon, it's possible that Breezy has the right drivers but it doesn't automatically load them
[09:40] <clast> Doonz: is your hoary running without any problems?
[09:40] <Doonz> yeah
[09:40] <Doonz> havent had an issue since i installed it 3 months ago
[09:41] <Fearan> anyone knwo how to mount windows shares in a local folder like /media/net?
[09:41] <tga> SGershon, http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13421
[09:41] <d33p> any command in console to see which cpu is in the machine?
[09:41] <Ng> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[09:41] <Fearan> anyone knwo how to mount windows shares in a local folder like /media/net?
[09:41] <d33p> thanks Ng
[09:41] <tga> Fearan, one way is to use Gnome > places > network servers
[09:41] <Fearan> tga: i can mount it like that...
[09:42] <tga> Fearan, then what's the problem?
[09:42] <clast> Doonz: i doesn't hurt to upgrade to breezy, but in your case it might not be necessary right now
[09:42] <Doonz> ok
[09:42] <Fearan> tga: it mounts to smb://192.168.1.47
[09:42] <SGershon> So, I'll reboot and enter linux. I''l do lspci, then modprobe, then ifconfig -a.
[09:42] <clast> Doonz: even though breezy is really, really nice! :-D
[09:42] <Vaske_Car> Anybody know how to access network drives (Samba) from Knoppix? (KDE)
[09:42] <Fearan> tga: i want to mount it to the file tree
[09:42] <SGershon> Wat else should I do there, before I return here?
[09:43] <tga> SGershon, lspci will just show you a list of pci devices, take a look for your network controler.. it shouldn't help much
[09:43] <lizardboy> whats the easiest way to add a user with the terminal? (server install)
[09:43] <thechitowncubs> Is there a way to play WMV files in Breezy w/ totem?
[09:43] <tga> SGershon, try to modprobe that, then look at the end of dmesg and see if it recognized the card or not
[09:43] <Seveas> install totem-xine and w32codecs
[09:43] <clast> thechitowncubs: install the w32codecs from the merillat repo
[09:44] <tga> Fearan, sudo apt-get install smbfs, then smbmount //192.168.1.47/sharename /media/net/whatever
[09:44] <Fearan> tga: ok
[09:44] <tga> SGershon, ifconfig -a will show you all network interfaces.. if you have an eth0 you're in business
[09:44] <nalioth> thechitowncubs: w32codecs and luck
[09:44] <thechitowncubs> clast: is there a link to that?
[09:44] <SGershon> I remember having an eth0
[09:44] <nalioth> clast: we have a info bot here
[09:44] <nalioth> ubotu: tell thechitowncubs about w32codecs
[09:44] <tga> SGershon, do you have more than one card in your machine?
[09:45] <tga> SGershon, if you have an eth0 that means the driver is working, you only need to give the interface an address or something
[09:45] <SGershon> no, but I have a wifi as well
[09:45] <Fearan> tga: 8293: tree connect failed: ERRDOS - ERRnosuchshare (You specified an invalid share name)
[09:45] <Fearan> SMB connection failed
[09:45] <tga> SGershon, sudo dhclient eth0
[09:45] <clast> nalioth: what do you meand by that?
[09:45] <tga> Fearan, well does that share exist or not?
[09:45] <thechitowncubs> is there any way to limit the upload speed with gnome-bittorrent?
[09:46] <tga> SGershon, ah, ok, then eth0 must be your other (wifi) card
[09:46] <thechitowncubs> nevermind that
[09:46] <Fearan> tga: i did "smbmount //192.168.1.47/ /media/warp10"
[09:46] <BooZee> Seveas: thanks for the dns-dhcp help. it worked!
[09:46] <nalioth> clast: if you type !w32codecs you'll get info from the bot
[09:46] <clast> nalioth: oh cool! thanks!
[09:46] <tga> Fearan, and what did I tell you to mount? you need to specify a share name
[09:46] <Fearan> tga: ok
[09:46] <alegomes> upgrading gnome-panel....
[09:46] <nalioth> clast: dont recommend marillat (it can break ubuntu)
[09:46] <d33p> clast, isn't fglrxconfig just for xfree and not for xorg?
[09:46] <tga> SGershon, why don't you get wifi going and come here from Ubuntu?
[09:47] <clast> d33p: no it wroks with xorg as well
[09:47] <idleo> !w32codecs
[09:47] <ubotu> well, w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy). 64-bit? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[09:47] <d33p> clast, ok
[09:47] <signifer123> hey
[09:48] <Fearan> tga: it didn't work
[09:48] <signifer123> k...
[09:48] <tga> Fearan, you need to be more specific than that
[09:48] <Unununium> I might have an idea why I always get "Ign" for updating hoary-extras... the URI to fetch is .../Packages.bz2 yet the servers only seem to have .../Packages.gz
[09:48] <St`> hello, gnome crash, x crash, why ?
[09:48] <Fearan> tga: smbmount "//192.168.1.47/Dan XP Docs/" /media/warp10/DanXPDocs
[09:49] <tga> is there a /media/warp10/DanXPDocs dir?
[09:49] <Fearan> tga: yes
[09:49] <St`> nessuno ITALIANO ?.. help ...
[09:49] <Fearan> tga: it's the same error
[09:49] <nalioth> !ita
[09:49] <ubotu> italiano es #ubuntu-it per favore, andiamo! Grazi ... prego! :-)
[09:49] <Unununium> Is there an option or something I can set in sources.list to select between Packages.bz2 and Packages.gz?
[09:49] <tga> Fearan, try `smbmount //192.168.1.47/Dan\ XP\ Docs /media/whatever
[09:49] <lightsource> How do I move files without getting "You do not have permissions to write to this folder"
[09:49] <Fearan> tga: already did. same error
[09:49] <Unununium> lightsource: get permission
[09:50] <nalioth> lightsource: use the terminal
[09:50] <tga> Fearan, are you sure that share name exists?
[09:50] <Fearan> tga: yes
[09:50] <tga> Fearan, smbclient -L //192.168.1.47
[09:50] <lightsource> get permission in terminal?
[09:50] <Fearan> tga: ok
[09:50] <Unununium> What is it you are trying to do?
[09:50] <lightsource> install some plugins for firefox manually
[09:50] <lightsource> the only thing, is that I don't have permission with ANYTHING really...
[09:50] <nalioth> lightsource: you can use the terminal and give yourself permission to move things
[09:51] <Unununium> Into where?  You should be able to do that in your ~/.mozilla directory
[09:51] <lightsource> how?
[09:51] <clast> !samba
[09:51] <ubotu> I guess samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[09:51] <nalioth> ubotu: tell lightsource about cli
[09:51] <Fearan> tga: ok, it just told me everything that's ober there
[09:51] <tga> Fearan, is there a share by that name?
[09:51] <Unununium> And you certainly have permissions for ~/.mozilla
[09:51] <Fearan> tga: yes... and i already knew it too
[09:51] <Unununium> (~ is your home directory)
[09:52] <nalioth> lightsource: the terminal is very powerful for getting things done
[09:52] <Fearan> tga: i have been able to access it through nautilus by smb://192.168.1.47
[09:52] <tga> Fearan, if you're still getting 'no such share' something must be wrong, probably in the share name
[09:52] <Fearan> tga: ok
[09:52] <Unununium> Any hints on the Packages.gz versus Packages.bz2 issue?
[09:53] <clast> Unununium: what exactly is the issue
[09:53] <Unununium> Can't apt-get update anything from hoary-extras ("Ign")
[09:53] <Fearan> tga: i think it worked with sudo
[09:54] <Unununium> I see that it's requesting Packages.bz2, but every mirror I've looked at has Packages.gz
[09:54] <Fearan> tga: yeah it did
[09:54] <tga> Fearan, that's strange
[09:54] <Fearan> tga: so how so i correctly add it to fstab?
[09:54] <Seveas> Unununium, 'Ign' is not an error...
[09:54] <lightsource> thankyou nalioth
[09:54] <clast> Unununium: sorry can't help you on that one
[09:55] <Unununium> I know, but because of it I can't get at any hoary-extras packages
[09:55] <tga> Fearan, //192.168.1.47/sharename /media/whatever smbfs defaults,umask=0 0 0
[09:55] <drazQ> hi
[09:55] <Fearan> tga: ok
[09:56] <nalioth> Unununium: some mirrors have .bz2
[09:56] <tga> Fearan, if your other machine is not always up it might be an idea to add the "noauto" option, then you can mount it with just `mount /media/whatever`
[09:56] <Seveas> Unununium, does apt-get install give errors about stat failed?
[09:56] <Unununium> naliot: not according to google
[09:57] <Seveas> Unununium, look at the official ubuntu mirrors for an example...
[09:57] <primoturbo> what's the command to kill gnome/natalius so I can see icon changes?
[09:57] <Seveas> primoturbo, <ctrl> r
[09:57] <Fearan> tga: it's always up, so auto?
[09:57] <Unununium> Seveas: no, but why should it?  I'm not asking to install any hoary-extras packages (they're not even listed)
[09:57] <primoturbo> I need a terminal command
[09:57] <primoturbo> it's killall something
[09:57] <Unununium> Seveas: none of the examples have worked for me
[09:57] <Fearan> tga: or just leave it?
[09:57] <Seveas> Unununium, doesn't matter -- if it cannot find a listing from a repository it will complain
[09:57] <Unununium> 'Your search - "Index of /dists/hoary-extras/main/binary-i386" Packages.bz2 - did not match any documents. '
[09:58] <primoturbo> how do I killall gnome?
[09:58] <ompaul> primoturbo, killall nautilus
[09:58] <tga> Fearan, auto is part of defaults, so no need
[09:58] <blackheart-uk> talking of updating, I'm new to linux and I've got a message telling me that I have updates available, but it asks me for a password when I click the icon, what might the password be?
[09:58] <Seveas> Unununium, that makes no sense...
[09:58] <St`> my gnome crash... why ?
[09:58] <primoturbo> yeah I know about that one
[09:58] <Fearan> tga: ok
[09:58] <primoturbo> there is one more
[09:58] <ompaul> primoturbo, for gnome ctrl-alt-backspage
[09:58] <primoturbo> killall gnome or something
[09:58] <ompaul> primoturbo, for gnome ctrl-alt-backspace that is
[09:58] <primoturbo> I'm updating atm
[09:58] <Unununium> I know it makes no sense... this is stupid.  Why gz?
[09:58] <clast> primoturbo: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[09:59] <clast> primoturbo: or log out and do CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
[09:59] <ompaul> clast, I think they did already :)
[10:00] <primoturbo> bah I didn't need that
[10:00] <Unununium> hmm, oh well, maybe it's requesting both .bz2 and .gz...
[10:00] <primoturbo> I wanted to restart the gnome panel not restart gnome
[10:00] <alegomes> may I paste an error message here?
[10:00] <clast> ompaul: hmm...
[10:00] <Seveas> alegomes, no
[10:00] <kevogod> killall gnome-panel
[10:00] <Seveas> there are pastebins for that
[10:00] <primoturbo> thnx
[10:00] <Unununium> But the --print-uris doesn't show that
[10:00] <alegomes> nautilus is crashing
[10:01] <alegomes> a parsing problem. But I don't have any idea of where it's happening
[10:01] <d33p_> clast, fglrxconfig created me a xf86config-4 I move this file to xorg.conf?
[10:01] <lightsource> I did everything it did for the mv file and stuff, and I still get a permission denied error
[10:01] <antilope> hello, anyone can help about how to mount cdrw?
[10:02] <d33p_> can I move a xf86config-4 to a xorg.conf?
[10:02] <clast> d33p: wtf? it should creat a xorg.conf! it just did it for me a couple hours ago!! which version of the driver to you have?
[10:02] <Dr_Willis> ive had fglrxconfig - make some very nasty x configs
[10:02] <InitMass> what's the advantage with gstreamer over xine?
[10:03] <primoturbo> Who is using 5.10?
[10:03] <clast> InitMass: nothing imho, at least not concering video playback
[10:03] <Seveas> primoturbo, no one
[10:03] <InitMass> clast, why are people using it then?
[10:03] <d33p_> clast, the xorg-driver-fglrx is version 6.8.0-8.8.25-0
[10:03] <primoturbo> why not?
[10:03] <InitMass> clast, i'm on breezy if that matters
[10:03] <primoturbo> is it unstable?
[10:03] <primoturbo> cause it runs fine for me
[10:03] <Seveas> 5.10 is released in october, there are lot's using the breezy development branch though
[10:03] <InitMass> primoturbo, it can't play my movies
[10:04] <primoturbo> really?
[10:04] <InitMass> primoturbo, yes
[10:04] <primoturbo> I'll get it to run
[10:04] <primoturbo> with your help :P
[10:04] <InitMass> primoturbo, i can play the sound but not the video
[10:04] <clast> InitMass: well I don't know! in my opinion gstreamer is not really slick yet
[10:04] <mtp> Hiya
[10:04] <primoturbo> I'm sure there is a way to fix it all there is always a way
[10:04] <InitMass> clast, are u using breezy?
[10:04] <clast> d33p: are you running hoary or breezy?
[10:04] <mtp> Quick question. I have a debian box right now
[10:04] <dap_weg> gstreamer still sucks
[10:04] <clast> InitMass: yes
[10:04] <mtp> is it possible to just edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:05] <mtp> and upgrade to ubuntu?
[10:05] <Seveas> mtp, sarge -> breezy should work
[10:05] <d33p_> clast, i'm in hoary 5.10
[10:05] <Seveas> but ymmv
[10:05] <mtp> Seveas: I'm using sid
[10:05] <clast> InitMass: and I'm using totem-xine instead of totem-gstreamer
[10:05] <Seveas> mtp, then you'll have problems
[10:05] <mtp> OK
[10:05] <Seveas> but nothing unfixable, you just need to know apt and dpkg a bit more
[10:05] <clast> d33p: hoary is 5.04 breezy is 5.10...
[10:05] <Chinaman> can someone help me with ALSA?
[10:05] <mtp> so would it be easier to back up /home and /etc/{passwd,shadow} and stick the install cd in :P
[10:06] <d33p_> clast, true, sorry hoary 5.04
[10:06] <drazQ> how do I add repositories from shell? the wiki explains how to do it in X but ..
[10:06] <Seveas> mtp, yes :)
[10:06] <lightsource> even after using the terminal, I get access denied.
[10:06] <Seveas> since the install takes only 30 minutes that is the quickest route :)
[10:06] <clast> d33p: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI?highlight=%28driver%29
[10:06] <mtp> Seveas: Okey dokey.
[10:07] <antilope> plz, i have 2 cdrw into my machine, i have running ubuntu liveCD in one and i want to burn in the another one, how i can do this?
[10:08] <lightsource> even after using the terminal, I get access denied.
[10:08] <clast> antilope: choose the other device to be the burning device for you project
[10:08] <d33p_> clast, did that earlier, it worked but fullscreen video lost antialiasing
[10:08] <antilope> how i can do that?
[10:09] <d33p_> clast, should I move to breezy?
[10:09] <primoturbo> Has anyone seen that app that allows u to send radio via your monitor? It's for linux only.
[10:09] <antilope> i do this... cdrocord -v dev=3,0,0 image.iso but try to use the one that have running liveCD
[10:09] <Alex_BO> ciao!come faccio ad estrarre da una tarball SOLO un file?
[10:09] <clast> d33p: you might as well! but it's weird because the driver you installed seemed rather old...
[10:09] <mtp> Also, how well is xfce supported on breezy?
[10:09] <mumbles> hello... im installing ubntu onot a mahcne and it wont wright the changes to the harddrive
[10:10] <primoturbo> Also I just heard that Quake4 will have a linux release.
[10:10] <clast> mtp: as well as any other distri
[10:10] <primoturbo> http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=986
[10:10] <jomo> any tips on install to HP omnibook6000 and XP dual boot
[10:10] <mtp> clast: great.
[10:10] <clast> yeah, that's gonna rock, primoturbo
[10:10] <d33p_> clast, moving to breezy is changing all the hoary to breezy in apt sources list and apt-get update, upgrade, right?
[10:10] <d33p_> clast, dist-upgrade sorry
[10:10] <MikeStyle> hey, im trying to install gimp version 3.4 but it says i need glib 2.8 when i compile and it says i only have 2.6
[10:11] <primoturbo> AM radio signals from your monitor - http://www.erikyyy.de/tempest/
[10:11] <primoturbo> has anyone tried this?
[10:11] <primoturbo> I would really like to try it
[10:11] <clast> d33p_ yeah it should! i can recommend breezy without any regrets! :-)
[10:11] <thechitowncubs> is there a way to change the port gnome-bittorent uses?
[10:12] <d33p_> clast, =)
[10:12] <chrisbudden14> When Breezy is fully released, will there just be a whole lot of updates for beta users?
[10:12] <MikeStyle> theshitowncubs, gnome bittorrent is crap, search synaptic for a better client
[10:12] <primoturbo> so ubuntu doesn't have gcc/c++
[10:12] <primoturbo> which packages do I need to get it?
[10:12] <Kyral> it does
[10:12] <Kyral> build-essential
[10:12] <HappyFool> primoturbo: build-essential. it's on the cd
[10:12] <Kyral> but spelled right
[10:12] <primoturbo> is that the command to use it?
[10:12] <Kyral> no
[10:13] <Kyral> its a metapack that installs all the compiler goodies
[10:13] <HappyFool> use synaptic or apt-get to install it
[10:13] <Kyral> you use it in the same way
[10:13] <thechitowncubs> MikeStyle, I like gnome-bittorrent i just want a simple client
[10:13] <primoturbo> I see
[10:13] <clast> apt-get install build-essential (or however you spell it)
[10:13] <primoturbo> I will use synaptic after it updates
[10:13] <StyXman> if breezy entirely cimpiled w/ gcc-4.0, or it's included only `because we can?
[10:13] <Deitrich> Anyone here happen to have the horizontal/vertical frequencies for an iBook G3 12 inch notebook?
[10:13] <primoturbo> thnx
[10:13] <MikeStyle> thechitowncubs, okay, ur loss
[10:13] <Kyral> StyXman, its an odd combo
[10:14] <primoturbo> also anyone know anything about libSDL
[10:14] <Kyral> some things are GCC 3.4 (Like the KERNEL) and others use GCC4
[10:14] <primoturbo> I need that also but I don't know what the hell it is and the site for it is down
[10:14] <StyXman> Kyral: interesting
[10:14] <ishit> after i say reload in synaptic, it does an update then gives this error message: W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:14] <ishit> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net_dists_hoary-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:14] <ishit> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-backports/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net_dists_hoary-backports_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:14] <primoturbo> cause I want to try the am monitor signals thing
[10:14] <lightsource_> even after using the terminal, I get access denied, how do I change the attributes of my user?
[10:14] <Seveas> NEVER paste in here
[10:14] <HappyFool> ishit: please don't paste here
[10:14] <clast> it's some graphics output layer afaik, primoturbo
[10:14] <Seveas> and that repo is thrown away, use official backports
[10:14] <StyXman> Kyral: ok, tx
[10:15] <HappyFool> primoturbo: libsdl is probably what you want (i see a libsdl1.2 as well; i'm not sure what the difference is)
[10:15] <primoturbo> alright I'll see if I can get it, really wana try monitor am radio
[10:15] <MikeStyle> can anyone help with my problem?
[10:16] <primoturbo> I just had something crash on my while updating on breezy preview
[10:16] <clast> what are the official backports right now?
[10:16] <Seveas> !tell clast about backports
[10:17] <Deitrich> guess nobody has those freqs *Grin*
[10:17] <mtp> Deitrich: doesn't tempest require a CRT
[10:17] <shammy> i'm getting an error that i can't mount the selected partition whenever i try to boot to ubuntu from grub
[10:17] <clast> thx seveas
[10:17] <Deitrich> its up and running *breezy prev* but stuck in 640x480
[10:17] <mtp> oh
[10:18] <mtp> huh
[10:18] <fredforfaen> !kernel
[10:18] <primoturbo> This channel is logged and hosted, it's kinda cool if I search for myself I see all the problems I had in the past and how I solved them
[10:18] <primoturbo> yahoo seems to find it
[10:19] <lightsource> after trying to use the terminal to move files I still get access denied, how do I change the attributes of my user?
[10:19] <coachz^> is there a way with ubuntu to update/install packages on an OFFLINE computer ?
[10:19] <lightsource> after trying to use the terminal to move files I still get access denied, how do I change the attributes of my user?
[10:19] <primoturbo> coachz: probally is a way to burn it on a cd or something
[10:20] <coachz^> i want to use my thumbdrive
[10:20] <SGershon> Hi! I am back.
[10:20] <SGershon> My problem was that my Network Device was not recognized.
[10:20] <SGershon> I did like you suggested, but no avail. Here you can se ethe output of the comands:
[10:20] <SGershon> lspci: http://pastebin.com/379941
[10:20] <SGershon> modprobe: { empty = no output! }
[10:20] <SGershon> ifconfig: http://pastebin.com/379943
[10:20] <shedi> lightsource, chown -R user:user /home/user
[10:20] <SGershon> dhclient: http://pastebin.com/379945
[10:20] <lightsource> user = username?
[10:20] <coachz^> and go between the online box and offline box with the thumbdrive
[10:20] <shedi> lightsource, yes
[10:20] <SGershon> tga, can you recommend a solution?
[10:20] <lightsource> thnx
[10:21] <shedi> lightsource, you need to be root to do this
[10:21] <primoturbo> You could probally do it some how, why not just put in a network card and connect the computer the to internet for the time being
[10:21] <mumbles> is there help on installing gnome ?
[10:21] <clast> I'm outta here!
[10:21] <lightsource> oh
[10:21] <lightsource> ok
[10:22] <nalioth> mumbles: ?
[10:22] <SGershon> I could see nothing that help me.
[10:22] <SGershon> Maybe you can help me understand the outputs...
[10:22] <mumbles> nalioth - i have a server installed - and its not doing much- i want to put a window manager on it
[10:23] <mumbles> apt-get install kde dident work
[10:23] <mumbles> at least x dosent
[10:23] <MikeStyle> mumbles, check synaptic for KDE
[10:23] <Kyral> How do I set Environment Variables to be constant (ie, don't change as shell sessions close and open)?
[10:23] <InitMass> how do i set which soundcard to use when totem is using totem-xine?
[10:23] <SGershon> tga, Seveas, can you recomend some next steps in order to solve this mistery?
[10:24] <Dr_Willis> Kyral,  set/export  them in your .bashrc or .bash_profile
[10:24] <Tomcat_> Kyral: Set them in the parent process of the shells... but afaik you can't make them non-writable.
[10:24] <Kyral> ah good!
[10:24] <Dr_Willis> Bash Fundamentals. :P time to read a bash tutorial or 2
[10:24] <Kyral> I just want to make it so that dch would stop putting "kyral@localhost.localdomain" as my email
[10:24] <tylo> Anyone here available to help me with a problem with Wine?
[10:24] <Seveas> Kyral, dch -d your@mailaddress
[10:25] <Dr_Willis> >hic<
[10:25] <Seveas> dch -e I mean
[10:25] <Dreamer3> what's the fastest way to sync me clock to a good source?
[10:25] <Seveas> or export DEBEMAIL=your@address
[10:25] <Dreamer3> (wihtout rebooting)
[10:25] <Kyral> ty Seveas
[10:25] <Dr_Willis> install/start/use the ntp service i think.
[10:25] <Kyral> what about the name on my PGP key?
[10:25] <Signifer123> hey
[10:25] <Dreamer3> i don't know what init script does it at starup
[10:26] <tga> SGershon, you should have tried to `sudo modprobe ns83820`
[10:26] <tga> SGershon, modprobe with no module name to load will do nothing
[10:26] <Dreamer3> Dr_Willis: ntpdate service :) thanks, worked great
[10:26] <tylo> I am getting this error from trying to run an install application in Wine: err:virtual:map_image Image was mapped at 0x51280000: standard load address for a Win32 program (0x00400000) not available
[10:26] <SGershon> tga, I did "sudo modprobe ns83820". It returned no output. Wierd?
[10:27] <SGershon> How can that be?
[10:27] <tga> SGershon, no, that's what many unix commands do.. if there's no error they don't say anything
[10:27] <SGershon> Ah, ok.
[10:27] <Dr_Willis> thats NOT weird. :) its the way it should be
[10:27] <Dr_Willis> lol
[10:27] <Dr_Willis> check 'dmesg' out put
[10:27] <tga> SGershon, eth0 is your Intel wireless card I assume
[10:27] <rafael> hello
[10:27] <QT4Dance> Can I customize the the packages included in the installation CD and then remaster it?
[10:27] <tga> QT4Dance, yes
[10:27] <QT4Dance> Any tutorials
[10:27] <QT4Dance> for that?
[10:28] <SGershon> tga, yes.
[10:28] <rafael> hi duds
[10:28] <SGershon> My lspci says:
[10:28] <SGershon> 0000:02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd.: Unknown device 4351 (rev 10)
[10:28] <nalioth> QT4Dance: look at wiki.ubuntu.com
[10:28] <tga> SGershon, sounds like you don't have the right driver for that card of yours
[10:28] <mumbles> ok, i cant install a window manager on this compaq machene
[10:28] <BooZee> the screen resolution of the login screen is diffrent  than what I setup. after I log in, the resolution changes to the correct resolution. how can I make the login resolution the same as mine?
[10:28] <QT4Dance> nalioth, Okay I will check it
[10:28] <QT4Dance> thanks
[10:29] <tga> SGershon, your best bet is to google for it and see if anyone has managed to get it going
[10:29] <SGershon> From that thread I pasted before seemed like Breezy 5.10 have the driver.
[10:29] <rafael> helloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[10:29] <netdur> boot manager gone!?
[10:29] <nalioth> rafael: key stick?
[10:30] <SGershon> tga: And I got the driver I found in ubuntuforums from syskonnects (something like this), but when installing, it aid that my gcc was with a different version tat the one used to compile the kernel!!!
[10:30] <rafael> what?
[10:30] <tga> SGershon, did you install build-essentials?
[10:30] <yuacht> hey, is upgrading for breezy safe?
[10:30] <SGershon> install build-essentials?
[10:30] <nalioth> yuacht: you are less than 2 weeks away from official release
[10:30] <Seveas> netdur, yes, it errors on Ubuntu menu.lst files
[10:31] <SGershon> I pressed enter for normal installation.
[10:31] <St`> tga,  hi, i've a problem if i change the theme of gnome my system freeze can you help me?
[10:31] <tga> St`, don't change the theme then :)
[10:31] <tylo> nalioth: Have a moment?
[10:31] <St`> why ? it's a bug ?
[10:31] <yuacht> nalioth, yes i know that =) just checking
[10:31] <tga> St`, not in Hoary, and I know nothing about Breezy
[10:31] <nalioth> tylo: sure thing
[10:32] <SGershon> What about this build-essentials?
[10:32] <SGershon> I pressed enter for normal installation.
[10:32] <netdur> Seveas, thanks
[10:32] <tylo> nalioth: Do you know much about Wine errors or anyone who might?
[10:32] <QT4Dance> I tried the wiki but I didn
[10:32] <tga> SGershon, if you are going to compile things make sure you install the package 'build-essentials'.. it installs a bunch of things you need to copile stuff
[10:32] <HappyFool> it's 'build-essential' -- it's a package which will cause the C and C++ compiler to be installed
[10:32] <QT4Dance> 't find what i am looking for
[10:32] <SGershon> A-ha.
[10:32] <SGershon> Thanks tga.
[10:32] <QT4Dance> can u kindly send me direct link?
[10:32] <nalioth> SGershon: install the gcc version you need, and in the terminal you are using to compile, type "export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4" or whatever version you need atm
[10:33] <St`> FOLK...  hi, i've a problem if i change the theme of gnome my system freeze can you help me?
[10:33] <tga> St`, are you trying to use a specific theme or does it freeze no matter what you choose?
[10:33] <SGershon> Actually, I'd ratter not install anything yet. I just wanted my network device to be found!  ;)
[10:33] <nalioth> tylo: heh. i run PowerPC ubuntu. Wine is a thing foreign to me. have you tried #wine?
[10:33] <tylo> nalioth: Hm. Never thought to try that. Thanks.
[10:34] <HappyFool> i think it might be #winehq
[10:34] <tylo> HappyFool Oh.
[10:34] <tylo> Yes, many more people in WineHQ.
[10:34] <SGershon> atg, nalioth, how can I know the version gcc should be?
[10:35] <InitMass> how do i set which soundcard to use when totem is using totem-xine?
[10:35] <nalioth> SGershon: 4.0 is default in breezy
[10:35] <Kyral> InitMass, it uses whatever is set in the Volume Control
[10:35] <tga> I thought people were unhappy with Fedora for having gcc4 as the default
[10:35] <SGershon> Damn, I'm getting lost.
[10:35] <Kyral> I think....
[10:35] <SGershon> ;)
[10:35] <tga> something about stuff not compiling right
[10:35] <QT4Dance> I found some artickle about remastering live CD, but I want to remaster installation CD
[10:35] <Kyral> I only use 1 soundcard :P
[10:36] <nalioth> QT4Dance: remastering is remastering
[10:36] <St`> tga,  my system freeze also when i change my theme
[10:36] <yuacht> nalioth, are there any known issues with the current breezy at all?
[10:36] <tga> St`, did you add a new theme or is it just the default?
[10:36] <St`> freeze also when i use it normally
[10:36] <SGershon> When using red-hat in the work, I don't need to worry for these things, the sysadmin install everything. Now it's my chance to learn!  ;)
[10:36] <QT4Dance> nalioth, u mean i can remaster the installation CD as I remaster Live CD
[10:36] <St`> default
[10:37] <nemui> id installed the totem video player, but , what does it need to play divx , or xvid video files?
[10:37] <nalioth> yuacht: no major issues. we are almost to the Preview Release point
[10:37] <InitMass> Kyral, which volume control do you mean?
[10:37] <SGershon> tga, I'll try to install the Build-essentials now.
[10:37] <SGershon> Anything else you recomend doing while I am at the linux, before I come back?
[10:37] <tga> St`, sounds like you have a bigger problem if your machine freezes randomly
[10:37] <nalioth> QT4Dance: same procedure, different expectation
[10:37] <St`> tga,  it's not only changing theme that freeze my system
[10:37] <snausages> hi, i cant figure out how to not show window contents while dragging... in gnome/metacity
[10:38] <tga> SGershon, it's build-essential and you still need to do the CC backflip to use gcc3.x
[10:38] <SGershon> I don't know if I need to use gcc3.x
[10:38] <SGershon> That's the big problem.
[10:38] <tga> St`, if you're not on a laptop try disabling acpi and/or apm
[10:38] <Hikaru79> What is the difference between 'sync' and 'async' parametrs in NFS, and which one is safer?
[10:39] <St`> tga, pc desktop ..
[10:39] <Kyral> InitMass, the one in the Sound & Video Menu
[10:39] <tga> St`, you might have hardware (ram) problems.. if that's the case nothing will help you
[10:39] <tga> St`, you could try to pass noacpi and noapm to the kernel
[10:40] <SGershon> I don't know if I need to use gcc3.x. How could I?
[10:40] <ptlo> Hikaru79, sync and async parameters are not NFS only - for example you can use them for your usb drives, or floppies, etc. they direct write-cache. if you use async, every time data is written to disk, it's written to a memory cache instead, and disk I/O is done a bit later (up to 30s later, i believe). if you use sync, the data is immediately written
[10:40] <St`> tga, mouse is in moviment...
[10:40] <HappyFool> snausages: one way is to enable 'reduced_resources' in gconf
[10:40] <Kyral> SGershon, for what?
[10:40] <Hikaru79> ptlo, I see. So then async would be safer, but slower?
[10:40] <InitMass> Kyral, i've been searching alot for it. can you point me more directly to the spot? is it in the totem app you mean?
[10:40] <HappyFool> snausages: under apps -> metacity -> general
[10:40] <PReDaCoN> tga, i think that is a configuration problem of X or driver problem
[10:40] <Kyral> InitMass, nope, in the GNOME Menus
[10:40] <thompa> hi anybody!
[10:40] <ptlo> Hikaru79, so, 'async' means better performance, and 'sync' means, if the floppy/usb/network drive becomes unavailable, you are sure all the data you wanted to write on it is safely there  (with async you might've lost a few seconds' worth of writes)
[10:40] <HappyFool> snausages: that also removes animations
[10:40] <Kyral> SGershon, if it won't compile with GCC4 it will most likely tell you :P
[10:41] <ramdiaz> anyone know what happened to the boot manager option in breezy?  after the last update it dissapeared, and i need to use it because everytime i update the kernel it resets my GRUB, so now I can't access my Windows or Hoary partition
[10:41] <tga> PReDaCoN, no idea then, maybe you can suggest a better option
[10:41] <Hikaru79> ptlo, I see. Thank you! =) I'll go with sync then.
[10:41] <SGershon> Kyral: I told beofre that when trying to install the driver for my Marvell Yukon Network Device, it said that my gcc was not of the same version used to compile the kernel.
[10:41] <ptlo> Hikaru79, sync is safer but a bit slower
[10:41] <thompa> anybody know: if i go to disk manager in Breezy and add my windows partition, how can i access it later?
[10:41] <tristanmike> ramdiaz, it has been removed
[10:41] <ramdiaz> how come>
[10:41] <QT4Dance> nalioth, the article I found is not in English :D? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCdCustomizationHowToBr
[10:41] <Kyral> SGershon, the Kernel is compiled with GCC3.4
[10:41] <BooZee> I need some help.. the screen resolution of the login screen is diffrent  than what I setup. after I log in, the resolution changes to the correct resolution. how can I make the login resolution the same as mine?
[10:41] <SGershon> Oh. I see.
[10:41] <SGershon> thanks, than.
[10:41] <Kyral> run this command in the shell
[10:41] <tristanmike> ramdiaz, aparently there was a conflict with something
[10:42] <Kyral> after you have installed GCC3.4
[10:42] <Kyral> export CC=gcc-3.4
[10:42] <nalioth> QT4Dance: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDCustomizationHowTo
[10:42] <ramdiaz> ohh i see, how can i do it then, edit the GRUB file?
[10:42] <thompa> should i set my access path to my home directory?
[10:42] <InitMass> Kyral, system>preferences>sound>general>default sound card is set correctly but totem still doesn't use that card
[10:42] <QT4Dance> thank u
[10:42] <snausages> HappyFool thanks
[10:42] <SGershon> Kyral, tga, nalioth: I'll reboot as ubuntu, then try it, then come back to tell you.
[10:43] <InitMass> Kyral, rhythmbox uses the right card
[10:43] <Kyral> InitMass, this is why Totem sucks.....get VLC :P
[10:43] <InitMass> Kyral, that is not what i wanted to hear
[10:43] <InitMass> Kyral, is there any config file i can edit?
[10:43] <ptlo> InitMass, that's because rhytmbox and system-prefs-sound-general-default card use GStreamer framework, and you said you used totem-xine
[10:44] <thompa> when i try to open home folder, desktop ,or my computer: permission denied?
[10:44] <ptlo> so in totem-xine you have to specify it manuall (probably by editing some config file)
[10:44] <tristanmike> ramdiaz, you must edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:44] <Kyral> oops sorry nalioth
[10:44] <ramdiaz> ohh ok, thanks tristanmike
[10:44] <InitMass> ptlo, yes, beacause the gstreamer framework can't play many codecs at all
[10:44] <drazQ> hmm, I just installed subversion and can connect to it .. but I can't find /home/svn/ (doesn't exist) and the server says "Could not open the requested SVN filesystem" when trying to access from a browser .. anyone know what my problem might be?
[10:44] <Kyral> InitMass, VLC can play a lot outta the box
[10:44] <tristanmike> ramdiaz, np
[10:45] <InitMass> Kyral, i don't think it's as nice as totem and not as fast
[10:45] <thompa> I added my windows partition just now to home/user and now am denied access to all files
[10:45] <Kyral> InitMass, I'm gonna stop myself before this goes to flamewar mode :P
[10:45] <InitMass> ptlo, you don't have any solution for my problem either, do you??
[10:45] <InitMass> Kyral, hehe
[10:45] <thompa> anybody know: is this a bug?
[10:46] <ptlo> InitMass, sorry I can't help you since i don't use totem-xine :(
[10:46] <thompa> Failed to change to directory '/home/thom' (Permission denied)
[10:46] <InitMass> ptlo, are you using totem-gstreamer?
[10:46] <intolerance> yo
[10:46] <intolerance> can anyone help me with sound @ a thinkpad600e?
[10:46] <intolerance> i have done as described in the forum
[10:46] <intolerance> but i am still having problems
[10:46] <intolerance> ty
[10:46] <n00bster> sorry, my Internet connection got cutoff last time, can you answer me again?  (about Windows Emulator)
[10:46] <ptlo> InitMass, yup. that and mplayer when totem-gst doesn't work :)
[10:47] <butcherbird> thompa: what was the exact command you typed to mount?
[10:47] <Kyral> thompa, you have specify the mount options
[10:47] <thompa> thanks
[10:47] <Kyral> !NTFS
[10:47] <thompa> i went to system administration
[10:47] <Kyral> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[10:47] <eruin> aww, did anyone read the latest tux magazine?
[10:47] <InitMass> ptlo, it has to be often totem-gst doesn't work for movies
[10:47] <thompa> disks: added windows partition
[10:48] <thompa> now i am unable to access any files via places
[10:48] <snausages> one more question... where can i get the fixedsys font for linux?
[10:48] <thompa> probably because it requires root acess?
[10:48] <Kyral> hey wow...the latest Breezy update autochanges the Foot Logo to the Ubuntu Logo
[10:48] <butcherbird> thompa: mount -o umask=0000 etc /dev/hd8 /whatever for instance
[10:48] <intolerance> aaawww
[10:49] <intolerance> can anybody help me?
[10:49] <QT4Dance> nalioth, Sorry for bother I read how do I customize live CD its is simple. install it some where - install whatever packages you want - type 1 or 2 commands and it works
[10:49] <thompa> ok
[10:49] <QT4Dance> But still I don't know how to customize installation CD
[10:49] <thompa> butcherbird: i cant access any terminal or file
[10:49] <QT4Dance> I don't want to install packages
[10:49] <thompa> permission denied
[10:49] <QT4Dance> I want to add packages to the installer
[10:49] <QT4Dance> or remove from it
[10:49] <ptlo> InitMass, well it works for some, and, true, i use mplayer a lot from the command line (i'm a recent slackware convert :-) ... but if you install the plugins from the universe i believe gstreamer plays a great deal of formats (plus, there's pitfdll support in breezy, and with that gstreamer can use w32 codecs, so it should play everything xine can play)
[10:49] <Kyral> QT4Dance, why?
[10:50] <thompa> all i did was add my windows partition through the gui to home/thom
[10:50] <thompa> now im locked out
[10:50] <Kyral> Thats a bug for the GUI Mounter
[10:50] <jayson_I> hi!
[10:50] <Kyral> doesn't write to fstab...
[10:50] <InitMass> ptlo, can you please tell me which plugings and how i should install the w32 plugins?
[10:50] <butcherbird> thompa: try alt-ctrl-f2 login then type sudo umount /something
[10:50] <thompa> ok
[10:51] <Kyral> Anyone know if its normal for Beep Media Player to spawn two processes of itself?
[10:51] <Hikaru79> If there is a space in a directory name in /etc/fstab, does it need to be escaped or is the parser smart enough to not tokenize it?
[10:51] <Kyral> You need to escape it
[10:51] <tga> Hikaru79, escape it
[10:51] <n00bster> i'm looking for a linux software that will Emulate Windows XP you know one ?
[10:51] <thompa> butcherbird: you mean i should try  and unmount the windows partition??
[10:51] <Hikaru79> Ah, thanks. With \ right?
[10:51] <QT4Dance> My problem that I ubuntu has some packages on the installation CD that I find useless and Doesn't have some packages that I find very important. I want to give this CD to one of my friends who don't have internet connection so I want to replace the useless packages with usefull one then remaster the CD
[10:51] <nalioth> n00bster: xpdm
[10:51] <jayson_I> VMware
[10:51] <Kyral> Hikaru79, yes
[10:51] <intolerance> n00bster,  cedega , winex
[10:52] <tga> n00bster, you mean run XP on top of linux or have something that looks like XP or what?
[10:52] <tga> lol nalioth :)
[10:52] <QT4Dance> did u get the point?
[10:52] <Kyral> QT4Dance, how do you know they have the same preferences as you?
[10:52] <butcherbird> thompa: I would unmount it then mount via console.
[10:52] <QT4Dance> I know
[10:52] <QT4Dance> this is not the problem
[10:53] <thompa> ok thanks will try
[10:53] <jayson_I> nOObster: VMware
[10:53] <Kyral> I'd just throw the additional packages and their depends on a DVD/CD
[10:53] <thompa> its little things like this...
[10:53] <QT4Dance> kyncani, then what?
[10:53] <n00bster> i want to run another sesion, 1 linux, other linux terminl XP Emulator
[10:53] <Kyral> <--Kyral Not kyncani
[10:53] <QT4Dance> Sorry
[10:54] <nalioth> n00bster: qemu
[10:54] <Kyral> Not your fault, its the tab complete
[10:54] <n00bster> no, i want to Emulate My XP on Linux
[10:54] <Kyral> VMWare!
[10:54] <jayson_I> nOObster: use VMware it is already complete there
[10:54] <n00bster> you nalioth wasup :}
[10:54] <nalioth> n00bster: there are no emulators
[10:54] <St`> bye bye ;)
[10:54] <n00bster> so what's qemu?
[10:54] <QT4Dance> Kyral, imagine something like KDevelop has millions of dependensies. u have to install the dependensies in order
[10:55] <QT4Dance> this is hard to do
[10:55] <Kyral> QT4Dance, or make a repo outta the CD
[10:55] <QT4Dance> make what?
[10:55] <Kyral> Repo
[10:55] <ptlo> InitMass, you can install gstreamer0.8-plugins metapackage, and additionally -ffmpeg, -xvid, -mad and, if your repository has it, -pitfdll plugins. (pitfdll is in breezy, i don't remember if it was backported into hoary as well)
[10:55] <QT4Dance> what is repo
[10:55] <Kyral> Repository
[10:55] <QT4Dance> ?
[10:55] <ptlo> InitMass, that should be enough for playing most formats
[10:55] <QT4Dance> what is it?
[10:55] <nalioth> n00bster: http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/
[10:55] <n00bster> will qemu Emulat My Xp that is on my HD ?
[10:55] <Kyral> A Repo, like what you apt-get from
[10:55] <InitMass> ptlo, thank you
[10:55] <pinucset> hi
[10:56] <n00bster> ok, ty.. i'll tray it .
[10:56] <QT4Dance> I am not familiar with debain nor ubntu in fact I am gentoo
[10:56] <pinucset> will breezy have graphic installer?
[10:56] <tga> n00bster, vmware will do that nicely, but it's a commercial product
[10:56] <funkyHat> no, it doesn't pinucset
[10:56] <QT4Dance> so can u explain more?
[10:56] <tga> n00bster, you can download an evaluation copy and try it out for 30 days
[10:56] <QT4Dance> :D
[10:56] <Kyral> QT4Dance, then wtf are you doing here?! No offense
[10:57] <funkyHat> character training?
[10:57] <funkyHat> :D
[10:57] <n00bster> ok, but will it Enulate my ubuntu that is on my ext3 Partition ?
[10:57] <QT4Dance> Kyral, I can use gentoo but my friends can't. I am tring to customize kubntu for them
[10:57] <QT4Dance> thats all
[10:57] <pinucset> my friends love kubuntu
[10:57] <intangible> anyone have any "bonobo activation server" errors when logging in to breezy on a fresh install?
[10:57] <pinucset> (specially who only use messenger and ie)
[10:57] <pinucset> :D
[10:58] <Kyral> QT4Dance, you are better off doing it Gentoo style, 'cause thats what you know. Get the binary packages offa Portage and burn them :P
[10:58] <butcherbird> intangible: wow you got to the login screen after installing breezy !?
[10:58] <epp> hey im running the hoary ubuntu on a 850mhz processor... how can i speed things up?
[10:59] <tga> epp, don't use Gnome for once.. use xfce or openbox or something
[10:59] <n00bster> will qemu Enulate __my ubuntu _ that is on my _ext3 Partition_ ?
[10:59] <Kyral> epp, ditch GNOME/KDE and install XFCE instead
[10:59] <butcherbird> epp: install fluxbox might be a good idea
[10:59] <intangible> actually, I'm running breezy fine, it's for "stgarrett" who's here right now
[10:59] <QT4Dance> Kyral, I thought about that but the problem is in hardware detection. I cuztomize my kernel my self
[10:59] <epp> but kde and stuff look soo good...
[10:59] <QT4Dance> I can't custmoize them kernels
[10:59] <QT4Dance> one by one
[10:59] <Kyral> epp, its a tradeoff
[10:59] <pinucset> somebody knows the website that says how many developers have each project? (gnome, kde,gimp...)
[11:00] <Kyral> QT4Dance, genkernel
[11:00] <QT4Dance> Kyral, genkernel sucks
[11:00] <epp> Kyral: then once im in XFCE can i uninstall gnome and kde?
[11:00] <Kyral> But will it work?
[11:00] <QT4Dance> Kyral, many hardware is not detected by it
[11:00] <Kyral> epp, yah
[11:00] <tga> epp, you can, but you don't have to, unless you need to clear up some hdd space
[11:00] <QT4Dance> i.e wireless lan
[11:01] <epp> Kyral: also where can i get XFCE.. i looked for it in apt
[11:01] <tga> epp, you can get rid of KDE safely, but you might still need some Gnome apps
[11:01] <nalioth> epp: look for xfce4
[11:01] <tga> epp, apt-cache search xfce
[11:01] <thompa>  butcherbird: you still there?
[11:01] <Kyral> epp, do you have multiverse universe, etc installed?
[11:01] <butcherbird> thompa: yes
[11:01] <epp> tga: i typed that
[11:01] <Kyral> !repo
[11:01] <kevogod> epp, Try installing xubuntu-desktop if on Breezy
[11:01] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, Kyral
[11:01] <BooZee> the screen resolution of the login screen is diffrent  than what I setup. after I log in, the resolution changes to the correct resolution. how can I make the login resolution the same as mine?
[11:02] <Kyral> kevogod, they finished that?!
[11:02] <thompa> i got this at login gui: Your$HOME/.dmrc file has incorrect permissions
[11:02] <nalioth> Kyral: it's !repos
[11:02] <Kyral> thompa, its harmless
[11:02] <kevogod> Kyral, Well, I would hardly call it "finished".
[11:02] <dundee256> anyone used rdesktop with xp?
[11:02] <butcherbird> thompa: breezy or hoary?
[11:02] <thompa> file should be owned by user and have 644
[11:02] <Kyral> our lab computers have had it for a LONG time
[11:02] <thompa> breezy
[11:02] <thompa> cant log in. im on notebook now
[11:02] <PassionLim> Why dose not keys of adjusting brightness of samsung laptop work in breezy ?? :'(
[11:02] <Seveas> dundee256, yeah, works fine
[11:02] <epp> kevogod: i think im running hoary
[11:03] <thompa> all i did was add windows via system:admin:disks
[11:03] <Kyral> thompa, you can chmod the file if you want
[11:03] <dundee256> seveas, better than realVNC?
[11:03] <PassionLim> Is there anybody who know about adjustment of brightness on the laptop.
[11:03] <thompa> do i have to log on failsafe?
[11:03] <Kyral> noo...
[11:04] <Kyral> actually who owns the file...
[11:04] <Kyral> you or root...
[11:04] <Seveas> dundee256, yes
[11:04] <thompa> i dont have a root account
[11:04] <BooZee> anybody here can help with screen resolution probs?
[11:04] <epp> so where can i get xfce for hoary hedgehog release?
[11:04] <Seveas> !tell BooZee about resolution
[11:04] <Kyral> thompa, doesn't matter
[11:04] <thompa> so im screwed
[11:04] <Seveas> epp, apt-get install xfce4
[11:04] <Kyral> no one in Ubuntu has a root account :P
[11:04] <thompa> ok
[11:04] <thompa> i know
[11:05] <lampshade> Hey, how is the upgrade process from preview to real version?  I ask because I'm thinking about putting the preview release on a machine here, but I dont want a huge hassle once the new version comes out.  How are upgrades traditionally in the past?  A mess or smooth?  Otherwise I'll go with 5.04 but I wouldn't mind seeing what 5.10 is like
[11:05] <Kyral> but the root user still exists
[11:05] <epp> Seveas: is breezy way better than hoary?
[11:05] <punk0> hi all
[11:05] <odd-> Hey punk0
[11:05] <Trashcan> Breezy is nice, very nice
[11:05] <dundee256> Seveas, i'll have to give it a try - thanks
[11:05] <epp> Seveas, still cant find xfce4
[11:05] <thompa> kyral: I have a terminal open in failsafe
[11:05] <BooZee> Seveas: but it's about the login screen resolution. only there I have a prob.
[11:05] <thompa> how can i chmod
[11:05] <Trashcan> chmod what?
[11:05] <nalioth> ubotu: tell epp about sources
[11:05] <Kyral> chmod 664 file
[11:05] <epp> Se i think i need to add a repository
[11:06] <odd-> Trashcan, hoary sucks then?
[11:06] <Kyral> we need a man(ual)bot...
[11:06] <Trashcan> nah hoary is awesome
[11:06] <Trashcan> i'm using it right now, since breezy is rather beta-ish
[11:06] <Trashcan> but breezy is nicer
[11:06] <Seveas> epp, yes, breezy is better
[11:06] <thompa> how can i log in actually
[11:06] <Seveas> epp, xfce4 is in universe
[11:06] <odd-> I haven't used breezy.
[11:06] <Seveas> !tell epp about repositories
[11:06] <Trashcan> thompa: what are you trying to do
[11:06] <odd-> Might upgrade.
[11:06] <odd-> 300MB I hear..
[11:07] <Seveas> more
[11:07] <Trashcan> if you're a coder, don't
[11:07] <odd-> As an upgrade.
[11:07] <thompa> trying to log in
[11:07] <odd-> I'm learning C.. :p
[11:07] <Trashcan> thing that turned me off to breezy in the first place was that gcc is broken
[11:07] <odd-> Does that count.
[11:07] <epp> ok sweet
[11:07] <Trashcan> rather, G++ is broken
[11:07] <odd-> Egad!
[11:07] <thompa> im not sure what to do
[11:07] <odd-> I'm staying with hoary.
[11:07] <Trashcan> :p
[11:07] <odd-> =d
[11:07] <thompa> im at a failsafe terminal
[11:07] <Trashcan> thompa: reboot?
[11:07] <thompa> i have
[11:07] <evilzyx> How do you switch the keyboard layout within a full-screen game (e.g. Unreal Tournament 2004)?  I set shift-toggle within both GNOME and xorg.conf but the key combination doesn't work in-game.
[11:08] <Trashcan> and it keeps dropping you to failsafe?
[11:08] <Trashcan> evil: I would assume that's handled by OpenGL, and as such wouldn't be affected by gnome's settings
[11:08] <butcherbird> thompa: this happened when you tried to mount windows parition as root to you home dir?
[11:08] <thompa> it worked fine until i activated windows partition in system;admin:disks
[11:09] <Trashcan> hm
[11:09] <thompa> no as user
[11:09] <thompa> now im locked out
[11:09] <Trashcan> can you sudo and unmount?
[11:09] <thompa> i can type chmod 664..then what?
[11:09] <thompa> im not sure what to unmount
[11:10] <Seveas> Trashcan, g++ isn't broken
[11:10] <thompa> i think its hda1
[11:10] <Trashcan> seveas: i had severe trouble getting it to work
[11:10] <Seveas> Trashcan, g++ defaults to g++4.0 now, which introduces an abi change
[11:10] <Seveas> if it won't work for you, your application/library is broken
[11:10] <evilzyx> Trashcan: Any idea what I could Google for?
[11:10] <Trashcan> oh... it's 4.0
[11:10] <thompa> unmount command not found
[11:10] <Trashcan> nope evil
[11:10] <Trashcan> umount
[11:11] <thompa> sorry thanks
[11:11] <epp> so where is the repositoy file on my hd?
[11:11] <Trashcan> http://www.mkssoftware.com/docs/man1/umount.1.asp
[11:11] <odd-> So breezy and C don't mix. That sucks, I'll rather stay with hoary.
[11:11] <butcherbird> epp: /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:12] <thompa> windows is on first partition. so is that sudo umount hda1?
[11:12] <epp> thx, butcherbird.
[11:12] <odd-> Hoary is great..
[11:12] <Kel-2oO5> http://www.makina-world.co.uk/cgi-bin/gtchat/chat.pl <-- JOIN CHAT PLEASE!
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[11:12] <mztriz> Does anyone know how to get my soundcard working? It's a snd cs4236
[11:12] <Seveas> odd-, nonsense, breezy and C works fine
[11:12] <odd-> I don't really see much wrong with it.
[11:12] <odd-> Someone said that gcc needs to be patched or something.
[11:12] <Seveas> odd-, it's just C++ that has had a (necessary) abi change
[11:12] <odd-> ChanServ gives channel operator status to odd-
[11:12] <Trashcan> hm
[11:12] <odd-> Seveas, I've never tried breezy.. I wouldn't know.
[11:12] <Seveas> odd-, that's bullshit, all of breezy itself can be compiled...
[11:13] <thompa> hda1 not found
[11:13] <butcherbird> thoma: dont worry about hda1 just whatever dir you mounted it to sudo umount /whatever
[11:13] <odd-> :|
[11:13] <thompa> ok now i get it
[11:13] <Trashcan> when I say g++ was broken, i mean silly things like #include <stdio.h> don't work
[11:13] <Bigbeaver> Do I need to do anything special to install Sun's SDK 1.4.2? I download the extractable exe from Sun's site and get this error: install.sfx.7295: cannot execute binary file
[11:13] <Trashcan> and #include <iostream>
[11:13] <Trashcan> etc.
[11:13] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Bigbeaver about javadeb
[11:13] <Seveas> Trashcan, #include <stdio.h> is broken code
[11:13] <Seveas> VERY broken
[11:13] <Seveas> and GCC is more strict
[11:13] <mztriz> hey
[11:13] <odd-> -shrugs-
[11:13] <Bigbeaver> Thanks Nalioth.
[11:14] <Seveas> if #include <iostream> won't work then you need the libc6-dev (oslt) package
[11:14] <Seveas> Which is dragged in with build-essential
[11:14] <Trashcan> hmm
[11:14] <Trashcan> i see..
[11:14] <mumbles> how do i edit network settings under commandline ?
[11:14] <Trashcan> so are there any other major things wrong with breezy at the moment?
[11:14] <Seveas> so nothing is broken except your reasoning :)
[11:14] <Trashcan> :)
[11:15] <thompa> im not sure what to umount sorry?
[11:15] <sktrdie> Hi, im using bluetooth< im trying to send files to my phone but I cant find out how to...
[11:15] <thompa> i tried sudo umount /home/thom/
[11:15] <sktrdie> I can send from my phone to my computer
[11:15] <thompa> i tried sudo umount /home/thom/windows?
[11:15] <mztriz> Does anyone know how to get my soundcard working? It's a snd cs4236
[11:15] <Seveas> Trashcan, why not just upgrading?
[11:16] <Trashcan> that works 100%?
[11:16] <Trashcan> i glanced at the wiki page
[11:16] <Seveas> sure
[11:16] <butcherbird> thompa: type just "mount" it will display all mount points
[11:16] <Trashcan> cool..
[11:16] <odd-> Trashcan, I'm comfortable as can be with hoary..
[11:16] <thompa> ok
[11:16] <gp_aaron> I can't get php4 working..
[11:16] <odd-> What does breezy have to offer?
[11:16] <odd-> That hoary doesn't?
[11:16] <Seveas> My system is a pre-warty - warty - pre-hoary - hoary - pre-breezy dist-upgrade :)
[11:16] <odd-> I haven't read much on it but ... really?
[11:16] <Seveas> and stable as a rock
[11:16] <Trashcan> cool seveas
[11:17] <Trashcan> thanks for the tip
[11:17] <Seveas> odd-, wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyGoals www.gnome.org/~davyd/gnome-2-12
[11:17] <Samhain> how do I make the icons smaller in gnome? I have the resolution set but the icons are still huge
[11:17] <Seveas> highlight a few of the differences
[11:17] <gp_aaron> anyone know?
[11:17] <Seveas> Samhain, rightclick on the icon, select stretch icon :)
[11:17] <Samhain> that the only way?
[11:17] <thompa> i have /dev/hda1 on /home/thom type ntfs (rw)
[11:17] <Seveas> gp_aaron, 'can't get it working' is not a really good description...
[11:17] <gp_aaron> what is needed to be done to get php4 up and running?
[11:18] <Seveas> thompa, that's so stupid
[11:18] <doobkut> hi folks
[11:18] <Seveas> thompa, sudo umount /dev/hda1
[11:18] <thompa> what is?
[11:18] <odd-> So it has gnome 2.12, you can get that on hoary..
[11:18] <Jowi> hi all
[11:18] <Seveas> thompa, mounting something in your homedir
[11:18] <doobkut> ive got a classic story for you all :)
[11:18] <gp_aaron> Seveas, I have the package installed, just don't really know what is going on
[11:18] <thompa> well the gui does it in breezy
[11:18] <gp_aaron> I havn't used apt-get in ages
[11:18] <Seveas> gp_aaron, so, how do you know it's not working?
[11:19] <gp_aaron> Seveas, http://gp.isa-geek.org/test.php
[11:19] <thompa> anyway i get device is busy
[11:19] <epp> !tell epp distributions
[11:19] <outz> Does anyone know why the linux-source-2.6.12 isn't on the default apt repos?
[11:19] <Seveas> gp_aaron, sudo a2enmod php4; sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 restart
[11:19] <odd-> I'm not really looking for a GUI installer, it's just a way of making linux more like windows which hasn't been the intentions of linux from the beginning.
[11:19] <Seveas> outz, it is.
[11:20] <outz> oh?
[11:20] <outz> i must be doing something wrong
[11:20] <gp_aaron> module is already enabled
[11:20] <thompa> butcherbird: do you know how i can unmount if device is busy?
[11:20] <butcherbird> thompa: you might have to type sudo nano /etc/fstab and remove the entry for hda1...
[11:20] <Seveas> !info linux-source-2.6.12 breezy
[11:20] <ubotu> linux-source-2.6.12: (Linux kernel source for version 2.6.12 with Ubuntu patches), section devel, is optional. Version: 2.6.12-9.18 (breezy), Packaged size: 39491 kB, Installed size: 39624 kB
[11:20] <Seveas> there :)
[11:20] <Trashcan> wow- cool bot
[11:20] <outz> thank you
[11:20] <thompa> great thanks
[11:21] <Trashcan> so what's the benefit of using sudo as opposed to su for root?
[11:21] <gp_aaron> Seveas, any other ideas?
[11:21] <Seveas> Trashcan, wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo has an extensive discussion
[11:21] <Trashcan> you can still sudo -s
[11:21] <Trashcan> ah- thanks
[11:21] <doobkut> ive installed breezy by mistake on my dads pc.. we haven't had linux for ages but i want to try him out on it to see how he gets on.. how bad is it taht we are on breezy though?
[11:21] <odd-> Even though.
[11:21] <doobkut> everything seems to be working fine right now
[11:21] <Seveas> gp_aaron, looks like you changed your apache config quite a bit...
[11:21] <odd-> doobkut, good idea.
[11:22] <Seveas> Trashcan, sudo -i is safer
[11:22] <gp_aaron> a little bit
[11:22] <gp_aaron> not much
[11:22] <thompa> Seveas: the disks utility under the system menu should not let you mount it then. why is it there if it does not work?
[11:22] <doobkut> odd - his pc was trashed with spyware.. so i thought linux is the answer :) .. but is breezy ok for him to use?
[11:22] <odd-> Nothing is secure.
[11:22] <odd-> That statement is invalid.
[11:22] <Seveas> doobkut, it's good -- breezy has much more newbie-friendly features
[11:22] <Trashcan> so is the point to not have anything running under root privs
[11:22] <odd-> GUI installer
[11:22] <odd-> etc.
[11:23] <odd-> I prefer hoary..
[11:23] <Trashcan> (ie. a buffer overflow wont open a root shell, or tftp under root)
[11:23] <Seveas> odd-, no, it does not have a gui installer
[11:23] <epp> when i edit /etc/apt/sources.list and i uncomment universe i get this error...
[11:23] <epp> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[11:23] <Seveas> Trashcan, exactly
[11:23] <Trashcan> cool
[11:23] <Trashcan> neat idea
[11:23] <Seveas> epp, do NOT paste in here
[11:23] <doobkut> seveas cool :) one thing though.. i had to install flash plug in via firefox in every individual account - couldn't i have done this with one install for all user accounts though?
[11:23] <Seveas> and run apt-get update
[11:23] <odd-> Seveas, bah.
[11:23] <Seveas> doobkut, sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla
[11:23] <Seveas> odd-, it has a boot splashscreen though :)
[11:23] <Mr_owen> hi
[11:23] <Trashcan> cool.. upgrading
[11:24] <Mr_owen> i need help installing msn
[11:24] <thompa> butherbird: thanks but my fstab file has no hda1 or ntfs listed
[11:24] <odd-> -sigh-
[11:24] <doobkut> seveas when i did that i get an erorr.. ill tell you what it is
[11:24] <Leonik> how do i open a .deb?
[11:24] <odd-> Seveas, you have ...
[11:24] <epp> seveas, thx msn
[11:24] <Seveas> Mr_owen, applications -> internet -> gaim
[11:24] <gp_aaron> Mr_owen, MSN?
[11:24] <Leonik> sudo dpkg
[11:24] <Leonik> ?
[11:24] <Trashcan> Gaim
[11:24] <butcherbird> thompa: then at reboot it willnot be mounted
[11:24] <gp_aaron> no msn for linux
[11:24] <Mr_owen> i dont have gaim
[11:24] <Mr_owen> yeah
[11:24] <thompa> ok ill reboot again thanks
[11:24] <Mr_owen> a friend of mine said to use Amsn
[11:24] <basti> Mr_owen, use aMSn
[11:24] <Trashcan> sudo apt-get install gaim
[11:24] <gp_aaron> yeah
[11:24] <Seveas> amsn is crap
[11:24] <gp_aaron> amsn is alright
[11:24] <Mr_owen> :)
[11:24] <gp_aaron> there is mercury
[11:24] <Trashcan> i prefer gaim
[11:24] <Mr_owen> gaim better ?
[11:24] <basti> it has support for cam
[11:24] <gp_aaron> gaim is alright
[11:24] <Seveas> but it can be installed with synaptic or apt-get install amsn
[11:25] <gp_aaron> but it doesn't look like msn at all
[11:25] <basti> gaim deost support webcam
[11:25] <basti> doesnt*
[11:25] <Trashcan> I don't use webcam :)
[11:25] <Seveas> basti, it does, with gaim-vv
[11:25] <thompa> butcherbird: do you know of any easy way to access my windows partition then?
[11:25] <gp_aaron> so you won't have the same feel
[11:25] <Trashcan> Also, i can log into gtalk (jabber proto) and aim on it
[11:25] <gp_aaron> Seveas, gaim-vv doesn't support msn webcam
[11:25] <Trashcan> so i dig it
[11:25] <mumbles> herm -- how do i edit network settings under #
[11:25] <butcherbird> thompa: easiest way..
[11:25] <Seveas> gp_aaron, ack
[11:25] <nalioth> ubotu: tell thompa about windowsdrives
[11:25] <gp_aaron> it used to
[11:25] <butcherbird> thompa: got terminal "sudo mount -o umask=0000 /dev/hda1 /somedir
[11:26] <gp_aaron> but msn changed their protocol again
[11:26] <mumbles> ubotu: tell mumbles about network
[11:26] <Leonik> sudo dpkg i .deb right?
[11:26] <thompa> thanks
[11:26] <mumbles> ?(
[11:26] <nalioth> Leonik: dpkg -i
[11:26] <Leonik> ok
[11:26] <butcherbird> thompa:  good luck =)
[11:26] <epp> k once ive installed xfce4 how do i uninstall kubutu
[11:26] <mumbles> ok i have an isshue
[11:26] <Ofe> hey, is it possible for me to download movies from internet to one hard drive under windows XP and then remove the hard drive and put it to another computer and watch the movies under Ubuntu?
[11:26] <doobkut> seveas it says couldnt stat source package
[11:26] <thompa> so the disks utility is not working?
[11:26] <mumbles> cant work out how to edit my network settings under commandline
[11:27] <Seveas> doobkut, put the complete output of apt-get update on the pastebin
[11:27] <Ofe> Do I have to make some kind of "linux partition" out of the whole hard drive with partition magic?
[11:27] <thompa> because lots of folks are going to try and use it
[11:27] <Trashcan> can debian (ubuntu) mount ntfs?
[11:27] <thompa> and end up like this
[11:27] <doobkut> pastebin?
[11:27] <Seveas> mumbles, sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[11:27] <mjr> Trashcan, read-only, yes
[11:27] <Trashcan> I was under the impression it only supported FAT32
[11:27] <Trashcan> ahh, ok
[11:27] <butcherbird> thompa: never used the gui before.. not sure how smart it is
[11:27] <Seveas> or sudo ifonfig for temporary settings
[11:27] <Seveas> thompa, it is working
[11:27] <epp> Ofe, delete all current partitoi
[11:27] <doobkut> seveas what is the pastebin?
[11:27] <epp> partitons*
[11:27] <Seveas> you just made the error of mounting it in your homedir
[11:28] <Seveas> doobkut, $paste
[11:28] <nalioth> Trashcan: ntfs can be read, but not written to
[11:28] <Trashcan> http://dookkut.pastebin.com
[11:28] <Seveas> doobkut, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:28] <odd-> I like ubuntu, it's standard.
[11:28] <Mr_owen> nice
[11:28] <thompa> Seveas: where should i mount it root?
[11:28] <Trashcan> doobkut*
[11:28] <Mr_owen> one more question
[11:28] <Mr_owen> :p
[11:28] <Mr_owen> i need to install a wifi card
[11:28] <Seveas> thompa, /media/windows or something
[11:28] <nathan13> hello?
[11:28] <Mr_owen> but i  don't understand how to do that
[11:28] <mumbles> Seveas Still lost
[11:28] <thompa> ok and can i access is as user then
[11:28] <Seveas> Mr_owen, get a card with good linux suppot, plug it in and it will work instantly
[11:28] <funkyHat> join #kubuntu
[11:28] <funkyHat> oops
[11:29] <Seveas> funkyHat, spammer :p
[11:29] <funkyHat> :P
[11:29] <funkyHat> missed the / :P
[11:29] <Ofe> epp: that hard drive was bought for the sole purpose of being a moveable anime HD, it hasn't been in any computer yet. So I'll just format the HD normally with partition magic or windows's fdisk and download the movies to it?
[11:29] <Mr_owen> well i doesn't work and i want this one to work
[11:29] <Mr_owen> :)
[11:29] <thompa> ok its working now
[11:29] <outz> Seveas, the linux-source-2.6.12 is avail on the devel section - is that just a seperate rep i add to my sources.list?
[11:29] <Seveas> outz, are you on hoary?
[11:29] <outz> breezy
[11:29] <outz> 5.10, right?
[11:29] <Seveas> it's in main
[11:29] <gp_aaron> grr..
[11:29] <Seveas> get your sources correct
[11:30] <Seveas> !tell outz about sources
[11:30] <doobkut> seveas http://doobkut.pastebin.com/380016
[11:30] <nalioth> outz: its in your repos now
[11:30] <Trashcan> !tell trashcan about sources
[11:30] <thompa> Seveas: the disk manager allows you to add to any directory
[11:30] <gp_aaron> i'm regretting dropping this server back onto debian
[11:30] <thompa> i think thats a problem
[11:30] <Seveas> thompa, I consider that  a bug in that program
[11:30] <[gC] Jackel003> can i install ubuntu on the same drive with windows as another partition?
[11:30] <Seveas> [gC] Jackel003, of course
[11:30] <thompa> i do too. thanks
[11:30] <nalioth> [gC] Jackel003: yes
[11:30] <Seveas> doobkut, READ waht i type!!
[11:31] <Jowi> mumbles: what exactly do you want to configure and what have you tried so far?
[11:31] <Chinaman> i need help with java on hoary
[11:31] <Seveas> I said: sudo apt-get update
[11:31] <doobkut> seveas apologies :(
[11:31] <Seveas> !tell Chinaman about javadeb
[11:31] <thompa> in fact when i click access path it goes to my home directory
[11:31] <ubuntu> hey
[11:31] <doobkut> seveas you would like to see the output from my apt-get update is that right?
[11:31] <Seveas> doobkut, yes
[11:32] <x_or> I am all of a sudden not getting sound.  I tried to restart esd, and then test by playing some of the system sounds, but no luck.  I definitely have speakers connected.  "lsof | grep dsp" returns nothing once esd is off.
[11:32] <thompa> butcherbird: thanks for the help
[11:32] <mumbles> Jowi i have a servber running ubuntu - i need to change it so the ip styas the same#
[11:32] <thompa> Seveas: thanks
[11:32] <butcherbird> thompa: np
[11:32] <doobkut> seveas : http://doobkut.pastebin.com/380019
[11:32] <mumbles> so that i can tell my firewall to allow ftp and stuff to that ip
[11:33] <Seveas> doobkut, see -- no errors, now apt-get install will work
[11:33] <[gC] Jackel003> when i tried instaling ubuntu on my windows drive it said it didnt have enough space yet i still have plenty of room
[11:33] <moparfan90> hello
[11:34] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Chinaman about javadeb
[11:34] <doobkut> seveas - install of mozilla ends with the line: E: Couldn't find package flashplayer-mozilla
[11:34] <Chinaman> then what?
[11:34] <Chinaman> what do i type?
[11:34] <nalioth> Chinaman: install it
[11:34] <moparfan90> how do i make it so i can type something in terminal and it will do the command?   well like opena game and me only type the name orf the game?
[11:34] <moparfan90> for americas army
[11:34] <nalioth> Chinaman: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[11:35] <Jowi> mumbles: "man interfaces" will help you alot. the changes is to be done in /etc/network/interfaces.
[11:35] <Seveas> doobkut, it's flashplayer-mozilla (I always mix that up)
[11:35] <outz> thanks Seveas - working now
[11:35] <Ofe> doobkut: I could find that package under synaptic package manager. :) I'm just downloading it.
[11:35] <Jowi> mumbles: for a graphical configuration, run network-admin
[11:36] <kevogod> How come the Netscape Portable Runtime Library for Hoary is listed as a higher version than Breezy's?
[11:36] <outz> ubuntu is great, ive barely had to configure anyone. i thought i would have lots of trouble since my laptop hardware is so new
[11:36] <doobkut> seveas its now working as flashplayer-mozilla or mozilla-flashplayer... same error. could not find package
[11:36] <outz> anything*
[11:36] <mumbles> Jowi how ?
[11:36] <procrastinationn> help!
[11:36] <procrastinationn> jk
[11:37] <Jowi> mumbles: solution 2: if you are connecting the server to a router, set up the ROUTER so if always give your server computer the same ip address.
[11:37] <doobkut> seveas: http://doobkut.pastebin.com/380025
[11:37] <mumbles> tired that one
[11:37] <Pickle_Weasel> is there a program that will burn a .avi to a DVD, converting it into DVD format?
[11:37] <mumbles> i think im just being thick here
[11:37] <procrastinationn> where can i get xmms?
[11:37] <Jowi> mumbles: be specific. what did you try?
[11:38] <Ofe> procrastinationn: synaptic package manager. that's the way I got it. :)
[11:38] <Pickle_Weasel> !tell procrastinationn about xmms
[11:38] <Pickle_Weasel> ugh that didn't tell you where to get it
[11:38] <Pickle_Weasel> stupid bot
[11:39] <mumbles> tried that run command dident work - think my brain is fried from use of to much windows
[11:39] <frank23> !backports
[11:39] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[11:39] <thompa> i got one more small problem: /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html not found
[11:39] <Jowi> mumbles: which command?
[11:39] <frank23> i see...
[11:39] <mumbles> run network-admin
[11:39] <thompa> on opening firefox and some other programs
[11:39] <thompa> this is after update
[11:39] <frank23> !extras
[11:39] <ubotu> rumour has it, extras is For extra repositories, check out http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[11:39] <Jowi> mumbles: exactly like this in a terminal:  "sudo network-admin" and enter your user password when prompted.
[11:40] <procrastinationn> i just used synaptic
[11:40] <mumbles> Jowi command not found
[11:40] <Ofe> I have a problem with my download speed. It's too slow for a 56k modem. No matter where or whit what I download stuff, maximum downloadspeed is 0.8kbps when it should be 5.6kbps.
[11:40] <butcherbird> Pickle_Weasel: I found some scripts online that showed me howto convert avi to dvd mpeg but never found a program like say cucusoft for windows
[11:40] <Jowi> mumbles: ok, did you install ubuntu as "server" or "normal"?
[11:40] <Pickle_Weasel> i see
[11:40] <mumbles> server
[11:41] <mumbles> wish i had it as normal now
[11:41] <Seveas> doobkut, did you enable multiverse already?
[11:41] <Jowi> mumbles: ah, i c. "network-admin" is not installed in the server-version.
[11:41] <thompa> anybody else having this problem??
[11:41] <thompa> /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html
[11:41] <mumbles> apt-get install it dosent work either
[11:41] <tga> mumbles, install ubuntu-desktop if you want the 'normal' system
[11:41] <thompa> file not found
[11:41] <scribbles> can I burn the live iso to a dvd-r? I don't htink I have any cd-r's around here
[11:41] <Jowi> mumbles: and did you have a look at "man interfaces"?
[11:41] <nalioth> scribbles: yes you can
[11:41] <scribbles> cool thx nalioth
[11:41] <Seveas> thompa, yes
[11:41] <Seveas> bug is being fixed
[11:41] <mumbles> Jowi man not found for interfaces
[11:42] <adam_> hey again guys
[11:42] <alassiter> Hi, new to ubuntu. Can someone help with a question re: a Mac Powerbook installation?
[11:42] <thompa> ok thanks Seveas. im all good now
[11:42] <mumbles> i am gettign some 404s
[11:42] <Jowi> mumbles: manuals is always good to have... heh.
[11:42] <outz> disabling tap-clicks on an alps touchpad is painful
[11:42] <mumbles> on the secury ubuntu.com
[11:42] <procrastinationn> can u get gftp on synaptic
[11:42] <Seveas> mumbles, full errors on the pastebin please
[11:42] <Seveas> procrastinationn, yes
[11:42] <nalioth> alassiter: ask
[11:42] <Seveas> !info gftp
[11:42] <ubotu> gftp: (X/GTK+ FTP client), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2.0.18-2 (hoary), Packaged size: 43 kB, Installed size: 76 kB
[11:42] <thompa> Ubuntu breezy setup my sony vaio with nvidia pretty well
[11:42] <mumbles> bugger ... am not using ssh so i can pastbin
[11:42] <outz> same here thompa
[11:43] <thompa> screen resolution and wireless worked with no tweaking
[11:43] <outz> 1920x1200 looks better in nix than windows
[11:43] <Seveas> mumbles, you can pastebin from the command line too :)
[11:43] <thompa> me too
[11:43] <mumbles> Seveas can you ?
[11:43] <thompa> outz: whats your notebook?
[11:43] <Seveas> yes
[11:43] <outz> i had to work on the wireless a little tho
[11:43] <outz> dell i9300
[11:43] <alassiter> Installed Breezy version just fine. When I run Ubuntu, my CPU fan cranks up and stays running. I look at the System monitor and my CPU seems to be at 100% and won't go down.
[11:43] <thompa> ok
[11:43] <Seveas> mumbles, wget http://ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin
[11:43] <procrastinationn> so how do i connect to a remote pc
[11:43] <Seveas> some_command_here 2>&1 | python pastebin
[11:43] <nalioth> alassiter: what model powerbook?
[11:44] <procrastinationn> input ip ?
[11:44] <thompa> im not sure if acpi is 100%
[11:44] <mumbles> still installing ubntu windows
[11:44] <vbgunz> is Ubuntu Sept 8 the latest version available?
[11:44] <alassiter> 12" powerbook 1.33Mhz
[11:44] <scribbles> hah nero won't let me burn teh live iso to a dvd-r
[11:44] <Trashcan> acpi is fucked up here
[11:44] <thompa> my battery seems a little worse then in windows
[11:44] <Trashcan> doesn't work at all
[11:44] <scribbles> says it HAS to be a cd-r
[11:44] <JDigital> heh
[11:44] <Seveas> vbgunz, no, the lastes is from april
[11:44] <nalioth> alassiter: is that >6 months old?
[11:44] <thompa> Trashcan: whats your notebook?
[11:44] <outz> i believe my acpi is functional
[11:44] <outz> the cpu is throttled down anyway
[11:45] <Manawyddan> hi, everyone!!
[11:45] <alassiter> nalioth: no, the model just before that.
[11:45] <thompa> does cpu throttling work?
[11:45] <vbgunz> Seveas: you messing with me? Sept is bit more later than April no?
[11:45] <Manawyddan> i'm having a prob here.
[11:45] <outz> mine appears to
[11:45] <outz> it sits at 800mhz when im not doing anything
[11:45] <metusine> possibly a daft question, but i've just installed (the latest version of) ubuntu, and some of the docs say to enable the universe and multiverse repostitories. I've enable universe, but don't seem to have multiverse.
[11:45] <Trashcan> thompa Trashcan: whats your notebook? <-- heh, some crap.. uh... Compaq Armada M700
[11:45] <Trashcan> about 5 years old :D
[11:45] <nalioth> alassiter: i'm not familiar with your problem, but would you check bugzilla.ubuntu.com and see if it's there? (so it can be fixed for the final?)
[11:45] <metusine> anyone know what i've likely messed up?
[11:45] <thompa> outz: mine will set, but i notice no difference
[11:45] <Trashcan> perfect box for debian
[11:45] <nalioth> metusine: edit your list by hand
[11:46] <outz> ah, mine may be the same way then
[11:46] <jodua> Anybody have any ideas about wireless connection being lost EVERY time I connect around1-3 minutes after connection, and I I have to restart my laptop to get connected again
[11:46] <outz> i havent fully tested it. been working on this stupid touchpad
[11:46] <vbgunz> Seveas: I wish to download it for a friend *but* wish to get the latest copy... Sept 8 isn't that far behind but am curious if there is a later version than available somewhere on UBuntu
[11:46] <Seveas> vbgunz, sept/ 8 may be a development preview
[11:46] <Manawyddan> could anyone tell me how do i remove a launcher from the Applications menu, i'm using 5.04.
[11:46] <outz> trying to disable tap-clicking
[11:46] <alassiter> nalioth: yes, I"ll look there. it is >6 months, I misread your question.
[11:46] <Seveas> there have been lots of updates in the dev. branch since then
[11:46] <outz> its too sensitive
[11:46] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Manawyddan about smeg
[11:46] <metusine> nalioth: i don't even have the multiverse line to uncomment in the text file
[11:46] <thompa> Trashcan: that may use apic
[11:46] <tga> hmm.. my gthumb doesn't display thumbnails anymore.. any idea how I could fix this?
[11:46] <nalioth> metusine: ADD it
[11:46] <Aragorn_Guardian> hi...
[11:46] <Aragorn_Guardian> what packages i need of ruse samba?
[11:47] <vbgunz> Seveas: yeah, it does say preview at the top... should I assume it is stable?
[11:47] <metusine> nalioth: hahaha. if only it were that simple. i need to know what to add first :p
[11:47] <Aragorn_Guardian> i see smb:// shares, but mount via smbfs dont works.
[11:47] <thompa> The only problem i have still with Ubuntu is permissions and crap
[11:47] <procrastinationn> ok i have music playing why ?
[11:47] <Seveas> vbgunz, sort-of
[11:47] <Trashcan> what problem?
[11:47] <Jowi> sorry mumbles got disconnected
[11:47] <procrastinationn> i have nothing open
[11:47] <metusine> nalioth: anychance you could paste the line ?
[11:47] <Seveas> colony 5 is newer though vbgunz
[11:47] <vbgunz> where can I get colony 5?
[11:47] <nalioth> metusine: anywhere you see "universe" space one space and add "multiverse"
[11:47] <Seveas> !tell metusine about sources
[11:47] <thompa> but it seems better now on breezy.
[11:47] <Trashcan> thompa: learn how linux permissions work and you are fine
[11:47] <drazQ> allright, any pointers on how to set up my ubuntu server as a router (I have two network cards and would like to connect to the inet through the server)
[11:47] <Seveas> vbgunz, cdimage.ubuntu.com
[11:47] <nalioth> vbgunz: see the /topic
[11:47] <metusine> ahhhh
[11:47] <thompa> No more notices that i am being reported to the admin crap
[11:48] <Trashcan> haha
[11:48] <Trashcan> i never got that :\
[11:48] <metusine> thanks nalioth and Seveas =)
[11:48] <procrastinationn> yo i have guitars playing i dont know why
[11:48] <drazQ> a simple link or search word maybe? :)
[11:48] <Seveas> drazQ, install firestarter
[11:49] <thompa> Trashcan: I've always used root and ive used fstab etc. problem was with sudo
[11:49] <gary_> How do I save my contacts in Evolution and my bookmarks in firefox?
[11:49] <Seveas> and click the 'share my net' button
[11:49] <thompa> i had no sudo users on an expert install
[11:49] <vbgunz> Seveas: this definitely looks like the latest: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[11:49] <Chinaman> nalioth: what do i do after i do what you told me?
[11:49] <Seveas> vbgunz, daily- cd's can be very unstable
[11:49] <nalioth> Chinaman: enjoy java
[11:49] <Seveas> a bit like CVS HEAD
[11:49] <drazQ> Seveas: thanks
[11:49] <Chinaman> can i now install jedit?
[11:49] <Aragorn_Guardian> what packages i need for use samba? i cant mount by smbfs, but i can see smb://
[11:49] <mumbles> Jowi a whole load of erros
[11:50] <vbgunz> yeah, I agree, *but* finding colony 5 latest stable is a bit harder than should be?
[11:50] <Seveas> Aragorn_Guardian, smbfs :)
[11:50] <nalioth> Chinaman: you now have Sun Java on your system, install anything you like
[11:50] <frank23> Is there anyway to detect when uploads are "choking" downloads, and limit uploads automatically?
[11:50] <Jowi> mumbles: to set up a static ip, edit "sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces". under #primary network interface, it should look something like this (alter ip-addresses to your liking): auto eth0 (new row) iface eth0 inet static (new row) address 192.168.1.1   (new row) netmask 255.255.255. (end of file)
[11:50] <drazQ> but it seems iptables is what I need, as I do not have X installed (only server)
[11:50] <Aragorn_Guardian> Seveas:  thanks
[11:50] <vbgunz> Seveas: so this is it: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/5.10/colony-5/
[11:50] <vbgunz> thats colony 5
[11:50] <Seveas> yes
[11:50] <thompa> Trashcan: just got bzflag and nvidia installed. going to test it out.
[11:50] <nalioth> drazQ: you have iptables (linux won't work w/o it)
[11:51] <vbgunz> Seveas: the latest I need is 23 sept...
[11:51] <vbgunz> thats better than 08th
[11:51] <outz> seveas, do you know if breezy's kernel has the alps hardware tap disable patch built-into it? i tried to apply the alps patch to that kernel source i just dl'd, but it said it already existed
[11:51] <Seveas> outz, ENOCLUE, search through the source for it :)
[11:51] <Aragorn_Guardian> thompa:  bzflag is very nice
[11:51] <Chinaman> nalioth: jedit starts loading but nothing shows up
[11:51] <procrastinationn> anyone know what i can use to tunnel the xbox
[11:51] <outz> i wish you were all knowing
[11:52] <nalioth> Chinaman: idk
[11:52] <Seveas> outz, so do I, so do I...
[11:52] <Seveas> :)
[11:52] <procrastinationn> kai ? for tunnelling ?
[11:52] <_jason> how can i clear file history lists in gnome?
[11:52] <Chinaman> can anyone help me with ALSA?
[11:53] <Inf3ctedfx> uuff Thx GOD, my ip was banned  :(
[11:53] <bz0b> is there a limewire howto?
[11:53] <procrastinationn> there amule
[11:53] <bz0b> i remember seeing one before, i just need one again
[11:53] <holycow> places / recent documents / clear recent documents?
[11:53] <nalioth> bz0b: here's a quick one: use gtk-gnutella
[11:53] <holycow> is that what you mean?
[11:53] <Inf3ctedfx> bz0b: I have LimeWire
[11:53] <bz0b> nalioth, where can i get it?
[11:53] <bz0b> apt-get?
[11:53] <procrastinationn> anyone know how to set up a server for the xbox
[11:54] <nalioth> bz0b: yup
[11:54] <bz0b> k
[11:54] <Inf3ctedfx> bz0b: donwload limewire if u r interesting on www.limewire.com
[11:54] <Chinaman> how do i set up ALSA?
[11:54] <Trashcan> @ procrastinationn: WHAT?
[11:54] <Inf3ctedfx> but u need to make sure that u have java
[11:54] <Chinaman> i got past choosing ca0106 but now what?
[11:54] <bz0b> nalioth, does it have a gui
[11:54] <Inf3ctedfx> yes, it does
[11:55] <nalioth> bz0b: yes it's very well featured
[11:55] <butcherbird> procrastinationn: you are wanting to connect to internet with xbox through ubuntu?
[11:55] <nalioth> bz0b: if you dont want a gui, use 'gnut'
[11:55] <Chinaman> nalioth: how do i compile a file?
[11:55] <nalioth> Chinaman: join #kubuntu-offtopic and i'll help ya
[11:56] <Inf3ctedfx> ok, does anyone know where can I download a good icon theme for gnome beside gnome-look?
[11:56] <thompa> anybody know if the realplayer installer works?
[11:56] <nalioth> Inf3ctedfx: www.deviantart.com
[11:56] <nalioth> thompa: works great
[11:56] <esac> does anybody have a gentoo system up and running ?
[11:56] <Chinaman> nalioth: i'm there
[11:56] <Inf3ctedfx> I was there also nalioth  but mm doesnt show a lot
[11:56] <nalioth> esac: that's #gentoo
[11:56] <mumbles> Jowi - no luck
[11:56] <thompa> nalioth: from synaptic?
[11:56] <mumbles> its the same ip
[11:56] <Inf3ctedfx> thompa:  I have the same problem with real player
[11:57] <thompa> it seems i can do a manual install at all
[11:57] <Inf3ctedfx> I just install it, but it wont work..
[11:57] <esac> nalioth: obviously i know where it is. i want a file that gentoo provides, and i don't run gentoo, i run ubuntu. but everybody in there just says "install gentoo" and i just want 1 file :)
[11:57] <nalioth> thompa: /msg ubotu restricted  and read the wiki
[11:57] <Seveas> esac, which?
[11:57] <flam> hey, just installed breezy and i'm wondering what I need to compile in a new kernel for the usplash to work? i guess usplash use some kind of kernel framebuffer or something?
[11:57] <Jowi> mumbles: static is static. what is the problem exactly?
[11:57] <esac> Seveas: /sbin/splash-functions.sh
[11:57] <Seveas> I happen to have a gentoo system lying around
[11:57] <Inf3ctedfx> !restricted
[11:57] <ubotu> restricted is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[11:57] <mumbles> it still isent a static ip
[11:57] <Jowi> mumbles: did you restart the network after you made the changes?
[11:57] <Seveas> esac, ENOSUCHFILE
[11:58] <mumbles> you mean the router?
[11:58] <esac> Seveas: you running 2005.1 ?
[11:58] <mumbles> i restarted the box
[11:58] <thompa> nalioth: ? . is there something on the wiki?
[11:58] <Seveas> esac, its last emerge was a few days ago :)
[11:58] <nalioth> thompa: yes there is
[11:58] <thompa> is there an info bot here?
[11:58] <esac> Seveas: dang. would you mind doing a find for it ?
[11:58] <nalioth> thompa: ask ubotu
[11:59] <Jowi> mumbles: i think you confuse things. option 1: setup the router to send a specific ip to your pc with dhcp. option 2: setup the pc to ignore the dhcp and set its own static address.
[11:59] <mirak> hi
[11:59] <Inf3ctedfx> ok another question guys, I have Gxine and also Mplayer, I have some videos on WMV I can't play on these players, I try to download the codes but I not sure where I suppost to install those codes, does anybody have any website with instructions to install the codes?
[11:59] <mirak> is it ok to use LVM with ubuntu ?
[11:59] <tga> mirak, yes
[11:59] <mirak> I want to do a dual boot with XP
[11:59] <thompa> nalioth: how do i ask?
[11:59] <mirak> XP is already installed
[11:59] <tga> /dev/mapper/vg0-lvroot                      6.9G  3.4G  3.2G  52% /
[11:59] <mirak> do I just do a grub install ?
[12:00] <Inf3ctedfx> mikal: what u mean with dual boot.. with the same HDD?