=== mdke [n=matt@unaffiliated/mdke] has joined #ubuntu-devel === crimsun [n=crimsun@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:11] potsdam, ny? maybe a cow fell on it === henriquemaia [n=henrique@cb-217-129-172-176.netvisao.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:16] hey guys, what's going on with ubuntu-artwork and the start page? [12:16] hmm i dont think ipython is working as it should [12:16] %run doesnt conserve namespace [12:21] infinity, lamont-away: please could you have a look why fakeroot did fail on the i386 buildd? === hunger [n=hunger@p54A63C2B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:23] jdong, "the start page"? [12:23] jdong, if you're referring to firefox's start page, that's just a desync. It'll be fixed in firefox soon enough. [12:24] crimsun: that's what I meant. Thanks for letting me know === herzi [n=herzi@c172221.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:26] can anyone confirm ipython issues? === xxenon [i=xxenon@81.13.238.141] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bddebian@pcp08717033pcs.phnixv01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:36] Heya === otavio is now known as otavio[out] === xxenon [i=xxenon@81.13.238.141] has joined #ubuntu-devel === blueyed [n=daniel@iD4CC009A.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mightydl [n=dan@adsl-69-107-80-224.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === _xxenon [i=xxenon@81.13.238.141] has joined #ubuntu-devel === blueyed_ [n=daniel@iD4CC05DA.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lakin [n=lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:03] jdub; http://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com/ ? you must be kidding me. === xxenon [i=xxenon@81.13.238.141] has joined #ubuntu-devel === blueyed_ [n=daniel@iD4CC05DA.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === blueyed_ [n=daniel@iD4CC05DA.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:10] desrt: lol, such a waste of time.... :) === pvanhoof [n=pvanhoof@d5153F60A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:12] jdong; ya. that's what i said :) === xxenon [i=xxenon@81.13.238.141] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:21] lol http://www.opensuse.org/ opensuse servers hacked === xxenon [n=xxenon@81.13.238.141] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdong thinks Novell should run better background checks on employees :) [01:32] Heh [01:32] kinda sucks for them, since they're flagship Apparmor apparently failed in this case :) [01:32] jmg: placed your kvpnc patch in debian/patches, since it's using cdbs & simple-patchsys already === _xxenon [i=xxenon@81.13.238.141] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdong nervously audits all his systems === _xxenon [i=xxenon@81.13.238.141] has joined #ubuntu-devel === xxenon [i=xxenon@81.13.238.141] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Aegir [n=richard@d220-238-12-106.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === _xxenon [i=xxenon@81.13.238.141] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:26] I'm getting a error about usplash-artwork.so when I'm trying to ubdate my initramfs [02:26] no such file... [02:26] martinhj: please update to the latest usplash (-19) [02:27] Nafallo: ah, I thought I had (was in the same update as the kernel), but maybe apt updated the kernel first [02:27] sorry:-) [02:27] no problem [02:27] that version hit the archive today ;-) [02:28] Nafallo: hmm, I got -19, but I still got the problem.. [02:29] hmm, damn. that means the fix didn't work I guess :-/ [02:29] but the file is there.. [02:29] (/usr/lib/usplash/.../ [02:29] what does ls -l /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so say? [02:30] /usr/lib or /usr/share [02:30] it's a dead link [02:30] /usr/share then [02:31] there is no /usr/share/usplash directory [02:31] that's very correct [02:32] infinity: ping [02:32] I can see why the bug is still there ;-) [02:32] but /etc/alternativses/usplash-artwork points there [02:33] any more you want me to check out, let me know [02:33] I know what the bug is. it's another typo... this will be fix as soon as I find an alive main-uploader :-) [02:33] ajmitch should be alive [02:34] yea, asking him on motu :-) [02:34] I can't upload to main [02:35] dang === xxenon [n=xxenon@81.13.238.141] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:35] yes, but I can't do anything about it :) === bmonty_laptop [n=bmontgom@wsip-68-15-230-31.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:40] is it possible for iFolder to be included in universe for later versions of Ubuntu,or is it problems with the license? [02:40] seems at least interesting [02:41] still license issue at the moment, which are getting sorted [02:41] so hopefully for dapper [02:42] what is the issue? [02:42] libflaim [02:45] I'll look it up... [02:46] so, this is bugzilla 16794 for any awake main-uploader ;-) === martinhj [n=martinhj@238.80-202-208.nextgentel.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-084-059-069-029.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === slomo_ [n=slomo@p5487C146.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ozamosi- [n=nozamosi@h227n7c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ozamosi- is now known as ozamosi === henriquemaia [n=henrique@cb-217-129-172-176.netvisao.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mirak [n=mirak@ip-221.net-81-220-107.nantes.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:46] is there lvm support in the initrd of ubuntu ? [03:47] mirak: yes === rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Gman [n=Glynn@amfea-proxy-2.sun.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === magnon [n=magnon@photogeeks/magnon] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tritium [n=michael@pcp0011975002pcs.sandia01.nm.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === desrt sees new artwork === lakin [n=lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:34] jdong: are you now a regular irc user? ;) === feehan [n=sfeehan@pool-64-222-103-115.burl.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ozamosi [n=nnozamos@h227n7c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === backports-r-us [n=jdong@d149-67-171-99.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:05] are any devs awake here? ;) [05:06] I've got some acpi issues to report :) [05:06] bugzilla.ubuntu.com [05:07] k, I'll use bugzilla instead [05:13] k; filed #16799 [05:14] that could probably do with model numbers [05:14] and kernel versions [05:15] and what happens when you run 'xset dpms force on' normally === robitaille [n=robitail@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:16] bob2: absolutely nothing :) [05:16] and force off? [05:16] and the other things? [05:16] bob2: force off doesn't work either [05:17] bob2: when the lid closes, the BIOS kicks in and shuts off the screen, but nothing revives it short of vbetool [05:17] then you need to include the bios version, too [05:17] filing bugs without any specific detail just means someone has to chase you down later to get it [05:18] Your BIOS is shit [05:18] Buy a better laptop [05:18] Or scream at your vendor until they fix it [05:18] mjg59: I've noticed that... it's a free laptop... I get what I pay for [05:18] mjg59: but what's the hurt in using vbetool instead of xset? [05:18] If nothing short of vbetool post gets the video back, there's no way we can fix it [05:18] It screws up various machines [05:19] mjg59: oh, ok. nvm then [05:19] mjg59: I'll just work around locally :) [05:19] (Less shit machines) [05:19] feel free to mark it invalid :) [05:19] You can work around it by dropping something in /etc/acpi/local/lid.post or something like that [05:19] mjg59: yep; already did :) === crimsun [n=crimsun@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:20] well, good night everyone [05:25] slomo_: I keep gaim logged into IRC :) [05:25] slomo_: after a dev yelled at me throught the list about IRC :) [06:10] who is taking care of integrating https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTranslations? === fabbione [i=fabbione@gordian.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Gman is now known as GmanAFK === r0bby [n=wakawaka@guifications/user/r0bby] has joined #ubuntu-devel === r0bby2 [n=wakawaka@cpe-204-210-133-115.hvc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:00] hi, anybody here? === chris38-home2 [n=Christia@LSt-Amand-152-31-21-96.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === r0bby [n=wakawaka@cpe-204-210-133-115.hvc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Firetech [n=Firetech@h53n1fls301o1100.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.194.118] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:07] moyogo: best to just ask your development-related question right up [07:10] bob2: i don't know if this is the right place [07:10] meta-questions consume more time than just asking it to begin with [07:11] i'd like to know if it's possible to contribute to the ubuntu title font made by canonical? === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-127-215.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === doko [n=doko@dslb-084-059-073-029.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === thoreauputic [n=prospero@wolax6-143.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tambaqui [n=patricia@200-213-121-232-mns.cpe.vivax.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:32] does apache on {us.}archive.u.c need to be poked? [07:32] err, desrt already asked. [07:33] :) === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns01-0139.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:33] i love how there are all these separate channels and everyone is still in all of them :) === tritium [n=michael@pcp0011975002pcs.sandia01.nm.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] [07:37] Hrm, maybe someone really did down apache on both hosts at the same time. [07:37] Weird. [07:37] so the question is -- do they know what they're doing and are in the process of fixing it? === zwnj [n=behnam@81.31.160.199] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zwnj [n=behnam@81.31.160.199] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === ivoks_ [n=ivoks@lns01-0139.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:03] interesting. It was exactly 1 week ago the last time the repos were down. Must be a Saturday night thing for the server... [08:05] Actually, checking the date and time, it looks like a cron.weekly tihng. [08:06] Which would explain how two machines got taken out at the same time. === henriquemaia [n=henrique@cb-217-129-172-176.netvisao.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:07] ubuntu... a very regular and on time distro; even for our server outages :) [08:10] infinity: did you send an sms to elmo/znarl? [08:10] On it. [08:10] ok [08:10] pointless to bomb them together [08:12] mmm [08:12] this fresh breezy install on my laptop is blissfully good [08:12] Really? [08:13] That's kinda nice to hear. [08:13] infinity: don't you trust your own capabilities? ;) [08:13] don't get your hopes up boy. it picked the wrong paper size! [08:13] [08:13] desrt: of course it did pick the right one.. for the wronf country [08:13] now i have to find somewhere that sells A4 so i can fill my printer with it [08:14] fabbione : As we near release and I look at the bug lists (as well as pet bugs/issues), I always fear we won't get enough stuff fixed in time. I'm mostly just paranoid, I think, though. [08:14] infinity; we all feel this way [08:14] actually [08:14] i feel more like (a) i'll miss something [08:14] or (b) one of my fixes will introduce a regression that isn't caught until it's too late [08:14] infinity: the opposite.. we have only 230 Maj bugs.. spreaded over 3 releases.. it's not bad at all [08:15] infinity: in proportion we had more for hoary [08:15] desrt : Both will happen. Guaranteed. The only upshot is that with 6-month release cycles, you don't have to live with it for very long. [08:15] + i am sure tons of these have been fixed.. but bugs never closed [08:15] infinity; 6 months seems like a long time [08:15] where is that daniel h fellow! [08:15] desrt : Not nearly as long as I had to live with my boneheaded mistakes in Woody. [08:15] infinity: what was that?? [08:16] Oh, just small things here and there, but they all added up to extreme rsutration when I'd keep getting the same bugs over and over again. :) [08:16] archive is up again [08:16] Especially when none of them were particularly important enough to justify a proposed-updates upload, just annoying enough to generate bug reports. [08:17] yeah === robitaille thanks whoever solved the archives problem [08:18] it looks to me like it's only apache2 that dies === doko [n=doko@dslb-084-059-071-084.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:23] YES! floss! [08:26] fabbione : It's probably not restarting properly after cron.daily/logrotate, is my guess. [08:26] cron.weekly? [08:27] It was about the right time for cron.weekly, but cron.daily/logrotate/apache2 also tends to be in sync with cron.weekly. [08:27] So, pick one. [08:28] hmm, true === desrt leaves the diagnosis up to the professionals :) [08:29] Unfortunately, archive.ubuntu.com is running not-terribly-well-tested packages of apache 2.1.3 (for LFS support), so they may be a bit dodgy, compared to the apache 2.0.54 packages in the archive. === jsgotangco [n=jsg@203.172.2.58] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:37] infinity: Nafallo has probably bugged you already about this, but /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so is a dangling symlink in -19 === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-084-059-080-060.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:37] Er... WTF. [08:38] crimsun : What to? [08:38] /usr/share/usplash/usplash-default.so [08:39] Oh, I suck so much it hurts. [08:39] Bad copy and paste, BAD. [08:39] crimsun : I assume it's only dangling for people it was already dangling for, I didn't break it more, right? :) [08:40] infinity: I can't say; I've been suspending and resuming for a few days now :) [08:40] infinity: possibly.. yeah [08:41] Fix uploaded. Meh. [08:43] infinity: awesome, thanks :) === infinity wishes there was a way to delete from queue/unchecked, so he didn't have to upload twice in 30 seconds and look even more retarded. === bardz [n=carrotma@CPE-138-130-6-11.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bardz [n=carrotma@CPE-138-130-6-11.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === doko__ [n=doko@dslb-084-059-082-192.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === maskie [n=maskie@c1-18-4.wblv.isadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pvanhoof [n=pvanhoof@d5153F60A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === TheMuso [n=luke@dsl-202-173-132-131.nsw.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:22] wow, holy crap [10:22] lots of referers from distrowatch for the fridge [10:22] like [10:22] *LOTS* [10:22] I finally read that CNet article === Hirion [n=Hirion@p5487C146.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fabbione hits openmosix with a cluebat === \sh listens to jdubs interview ;) === lionel_ [n=lionel@ip-128.net-82-216-65.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sepheebear_ [n=SepheeBe@cpe-68-175-57-11.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:36] jdub: can you do me a favour on the fly? [10:37] i don't tend to sit on insects [10:37] ehehhe [10:37] but i can do you a favour :-) [10:37] svn co svn://openmosix.snarc.org/om/userspace/trunk <- can you stick it in a tarball somewhere on people? [10:37] it seems i can't connect to it [10:37] perhaps you can [10:37] you can't connect to people? [10:37] no, i can't connect to that svn server [10:38] oh [10:38] but i can connect to people [10:38] so if you can do the checkout and pushit on people that'd be great [10:38] (wow, i have svn on my laptop) [10:38] oh, yeah, it's coming down [10:38] thanks [10:39] fabbione: http://people.ubuntu.com/~jdub/random/om-userspace-trunk.tar.bz2 [10:39] jdub: thanks! [10:41] morning all! [10:41] whats the link to malon? [10:41] err +e [10:41] poningru: launchpad.net, click on bugs [10:41] <\sh> launchpad.net [10:43] thanks [10:51] jdub, overnight another day's worth of email have come onto the -doc archive, looks like it is just keeping 3 days behind [10:51] intriguing [10:51] thanks [10:52] last emails on all the archives I've just checked stop at about 10.30 CDT on Thu Sep 29 2005 [10:53] <\sh> harhar...."sabdfl is your title" "oh noohoononono" ,-) === \sh laughs [10:54] <\sh> jdub: nice interview :) [10:54] ;-) [10:56] when are those translations at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTranslations to be integrated? (just wondering as the deadline for those was on Friday) [10:56] <\sh> and for jdub, just exclusivley: "Ubuntu is the one that I want" === zyga [n=zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:56] <\sh> to the sound of Olivia Newton-John [10:57] hello [10:57] I'm doing a hoary->breezy upgrade at the moment [10:57] and I've noticed something strange regarding liboil === sivang is amazed by the amount of press Ubuntu and the other operations receives, linked from the fridge. [10:59] jdub: that's outstanding [11:00] jdub: it's great that you got to talk about the MOTUs a bit :) [11:02] I've got many warnings regarding some illegal instructions in gstreamer packages [11:02] does anyone know what that's all about/ [11:06] zyga: what sort? Could you paste on paste.ubuntulinux.nl? [11:07] is the breezy universe security repo working? [11:07] W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) === cassidy [n=cassidy@92-131.240.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:08] crimsun: unfortunatly I did not tee the dist-upgrade .... === martink [n=martin@p54B38A62.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:09] crimsun: is apt-get keeping any logs? [11:09] zyga: no, but aptitude does === thoreauputic [n=prospero@wolax8-008.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sepheebear [n=SepheeBe@cpe-68-175-57-11.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:09] eh [11:10] I could reinstall hoary and try again [11:10] crimsun: I'm sure it was about liboil0.* [11:11] crimsun: I'm doing the upgrade on an old pentium 2 laptop [11:11] maybe it does not have required instructions? [11:11] like sse [11:11] I'm thinking of something different, I believe. [11:13] yes? [11:15] like? === MagnusR [n=magru@85.194.14.142] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:18] it's an ffmpeg issue, and it's totally unrelated. === dholbach [i=foobar@i577B15EB.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:20] hi === marcin_ant [n=user@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zyga [n=zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:34] art.ubuntu.com is down === zyga learns a new thing === terrex [n=terrex@84-122-83-29.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:55] hey dholbach [11:55] dholbach: 'sup ? [11:55] hey sivang ... just listening to jdub's interview [11:57] dholbach: you're mentioned closer to the end :) [11:57] yeah.... just heard it :))) === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:58] dholbach: good for you :) === dholbach hugs jdub === ajmitch is surrounded by celebrities [11:58] <\sh> hmm..."there is daniel holbac" ,-) [11:59] <\sh> dholbach: u will like the interview ;) [12:00] yeah... "dholback" is my favourite nick name :-p === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-127-215.tpgi.com.au] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [12:00] <\sh> dholbach: hehe...yeah...just like mine "hrman" ,-) "hermann" ;) [12:01] haha :) === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:02] <\sh> there was a running gag in 2001 when I was in US at RH HQ..."what's your email?" "shermann@redhat.com" "like the tank?" "no, with double n at the end of the username" [12:02] \sh: you worked for red hat? [12:02] <\sh> they didn't understand that [12:02] <\sh> sivang: yes [12:03] \sh: wow nice, under what position ? [12:03] <\sh> sivang: web engineering/development and web marketing manager EMEA [12:05] <\sh> sivang: and yes, it was one of my worst experiences in my work life === pef [n=loic@lns-vlq-39f-81-56-130-224.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:07] \sh: oh, why so? I would reckon it would be interesting/nice working for them no? [12:07] hello [12:08] does cdrdao scanbus works for you ? I have Device or resource busy errors [12:08] <\sh> sivang: the most interesting work was done in distro development...and we were only responsible for the *censored* rh europe online shop...and had to fight with *censored* marketing bosses who didn't have a clue === terrex [n=terrex@84-122-83-29.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:09] <\sh> sivang: and rh europe is quite different from rh us [12:11] \sh: I see. I regret to here that, hope you don't carry on too much with you from ther e:) [12:13] <\sh> sivang: it's a nice name on my CV...but nothing more...and there are some good people I would like to see to work for ubuntu, harald hoyer is one of them [12:15] headhunt them! [12:16] <\sh> mdke: hahaha....no..I can't do that...I don't have the money to pay them ;) [12:16] kidnap them! [12:16] \sh: who's he? [12:16] \sh: work harder & then pay them! :) [12:17] <\sh> sivang: http://people.redhat.com/~harald/ [12:17] <\sh> ajmitch: bah....isn't it enough that you want me to fix universe? ,-) [12:18] \sh: nice, did you get to knoe Michael K. Johnson ? [12:18] \sh: oh. you mean it's not fixed yet? === terrex [n=terrex@84-122-83-29.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:18] \sh: (I have his book, a very good piece, I also got to talk to him on IRC sometime ago, he's a canon and very nice as well) [12:19] <\sh> sivang: not that I know of.. [12:19] reminds me, I should see if I can get madduck's book in NZ yet :) [12:19] <\sh> sivang: but for books...I can give u the advise to read "under the radar" from Robert 'Bob' Young.. [12:19] \sh: sure, send me a link [12:20] <\sh> sivang: are u at ubz? [12:20] <\sh> sivang: I can give u mine...it has a personal signature of him in it.. [12:20] \sh: nice :) === Elleo [n=Elleo@pjmvlp1mts4.pjmv.aber.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:21] <\sh> sivang: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1576105067/qid=1128248479/sr=8-8/ref=pd_bbs_8/102-0247898-9876161?v=glance&s=books&n=507846 [12:22] \sh: nice [12:22] \sh: got any other copies? :) [12:22] <\sh> ajmitch: no only this one :) [12:23] oh well :) [12:23] \sh: well, you can give it to ajmitch :-) I'm currently more interested in reading technical books, until I feel satisifed with my current knowledge ;-) [12:23] \sh: the MKJ book is this http://www.ladweb.net [12:24] sivang: no I couldn't take the book off you, \sh offered it to you [12:24] <\sh> sivang: it's not technical..it's more "how bob young managed to create the RedHat Hype" ,-) [12:24] \sh: hmm, then maybe we should all read toi know how to become more strong ubuntu evangelists :) [12:24] just emulate jdub [12:24] right [12:24] <\sh> oh well...then I'm jdub2 ,-> [12:24] he's really good at it [12:24] \sh: scary thought [12:25] LOL === herzi [n=herzi@c172221.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:25] "and we have sabdfl"..."So it's your title?" "oh nohohonononhohonono" [12:25] haha [12:25] heh :) === j^ [n=j@e178023046.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:26] <\sh> dholbach: this is the funniest part in the interview.. [12:26] \sh: certainly [12:27] LOL [12:28] <\sh> dholbach: actually I managed to evangelise finally 6 people in our company to work only with ubuntu :) and one of them has 2 laptops running with ubuntu ;) [12:28] wow [12:28] when will they start in the MOTU crew? :) [12:28] <\sh> dholbach: even our "I love suse" colleague has ubuntu running now on his laptop and on one of his servers [12:28] there's not even 6 people in the company I work in [12:29] but I handed one a hoary cd set on friday [12:29] and possibly ubuntu on the new server :) [12:29] anyone know if elmo is around? i forgot the name of the server i need to log into to upload the edubuntu html files. [12:30] <\sh> but I'll pre-ordered now 300 breezy cds and 100 I will put in each mailbox in our company :) === ajmitch wonders how many will be brought to LCA :) [12:31] <\sh> and...now it's a secret, I'm normally not allowed to share it with you...but I think it's worth it to share this with you (hello google ;))) [12:31] \sh: I managed to pull our Japan representative into Ubuntu, 3 sales person that are now using it to display demos, antoher chinesse representative, and all of the customers of my cousing in NYC :) [12:32] <\sh> "Unity Media (aka ISH + IESY), the 2. biggest cable provider in germany, is running ubuntu on 6 DNS Servers [12:33] <\sh> hmmm..lets wait for next week if I get my pink slip ;) [12:33] \sh: you're trying to let google cache this chat ? :) [12:33] \sh: pink slip? [12:33] <\sh> sivang: the logs you can find on google ;) [12:34] <\sh> sivang: the firing papers... [12:35] \sh: why are you burning papers ? :) [12:36] hah [12:36] <\sh> sivang: eeks [12:36] \sh: you convinced them to change? :) [12:37] <\sh> ajmitch: yepp [12:37] \sh: good work :) [12:37] <\sh> ajmitch: we throw out 6 sun R280s with solaris 8 [12:37] ah now I get it :) === mirak [n=mirak@ip-221.net-81-220-107.nantes.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:37] hi [12:37] \sh: don't worry, they will only thank you for releaseing them for the hell of solaris :) [12:37] <\sh> ajmitch: I'm working now on the adventure "replacment of our webservers" [12:38] hey mirak [12:38] \sh: that'll be a good challenge [12:38] \sh: you should do a reality show about tht [12:38] I asked about LVM in #ubuntu but got no answer, so I ask here, can I ? [12:38] does ubuntu initrd have LVM support ? [12:38] <\sh> sivang: ah well..I asked for permission..but PR and Marketing are not so convienced of the idea to release this... [12:39] <\sh> but I'm a bad guy... [12:39] mirak: yes, and it has since hoary [12:39] ajmitch: so I have some troubles booting my LVM install [12:39] \sh: very naughty indeed [12:40] <\sh> ajmitch: I would name it "jdub in germany" ,-) [12:40] <\sh> ajmitch: I just wait for the moment, when I'm sitting on a chair in a public place with dropped pants and speaking about ubuntu ,-) [12:40] \sh: don't worry, when we'll meet in UBZ, I'll tell you what I did for Ubuntu, which is really starting to touch the burning papaers :-)) [12:41] <\sh> sivang: so I'll take the book with me :) [12:41] when choosing the root device for the kernel, should I use /dev/mapper/volume1-linux or the symlink that goes to it should be ok ? === olemke [n=olemke@p5489571C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:44] in my laptop, when I unplug the ac-line and goes to battery, 2 or 3 minutes later, the laptop "hangs" and I must to power-off extracting the battery. With hoary kernel this didn't occur. Anybody know why? [12:45] mirak: I can't find dmsetup in /usr/share/initramfs-tools, so my guess is that / on lvm is not supported. [12:45] hunger: crap ! :/ [12:45] terrex, file a major bug in bugzilla [12:46] terrex, against acpi-support [12:46] mirak: I have not bothered with the initrd setup so far, so I might be wrong. [12:46] ok thanks [12:46] terrex, it sounds like a kernel bug but if you file it against acpi-support, the right person will see it [12:46] hunger: / on lvm is supported as long as you have a separate /boot [12:47] hunger: is there a way I can know it could work ? [12:47] at least with grub [12:47] you can have a fully lvm setup with lilo [12:47] ajmitch: I have a separate /boot [12:47] mirak: then it should work [12:47] ajmitch: It is? Cool;-) [12:47] since that's how my laptop has been for several months :) [12:47] ajmitch: well it failed to find my /dev/volume1/linux [12:47] ajmitch: Any idea whether crypted disks are supported as well? [12:48] hunger: possibly, I can't recall if cryptroot is [12:48] ajmitch: is there something to configure abou lvm ? [12:48] mirak: so try the /dev/mapper/lv-name syntax instead [12:48] mirak: Have you tried using /dev/mapper/volume-linux? [12:48] ajmitch: ok [12:48] hunger: no [12:48] I will try that [12:49] these questions are more for #ubuntu, really :) [12:49] ajmitch: nobody answers [12:49] they are incompetent [12:49] :p [12:49] heh [12:49] ajmitch: My root is unencrypted... but my swap is, so hibernation is broken for me. [12:49] ho we got a winer ! [12:49] mirak: you asked that before, but you didnt' try it? :) [12:49] ajmitch: I am tired of rebooting :p [12:51] \sh: cool :) === pitti [n=pitti@195.227.105.180] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:59] Hi [01:02] hey pitti [01:02] how are you? [01:03] hi ajmitch [01:03] ajmitch: fine, thanks! [01:04] good :) [01:04] had a quiet weekend? [01:04] it's still weekend in germany [01:05] even a long one :) [01:05] hey pitti ! [01:05] dholbach: lucky for some, I've got work in 9 hours ;) === hunger [n=hunger@p54A60A2A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jlj [n=agp@cm-80.111.97.105.chello.no] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dholbach <- cooking [01:14] ok, sleep time [01:14] see you all tomorrow [01:14] ajmitch: good night [01:14] see you andrew [01:15] laterz === Keybuk [n=scott@syndicate.netsplit.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:18] I guess it is not ok to copy config files from /etc/ into the initrd, is it? === hunger wonders how to enable resume from his encrypted swap. === janimo [n=jani@Home03207.cluj.astral.ro] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:42] Kamion, if you're still around, please could you process eclipse from NEW, if necessary? === mirak [n=mirak@ip-221.net-81-220-107.nantes.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:44] I fixed my problem with LVM [01:44] the issue was /dev/mapper/volume1-linux wich doesn't have a symlink at boot time === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-127-215.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === spayne [n=spayne@i-195-137-120-148.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sistpoty [n=sistpoty@DSL01.83.171.145.252.NEFkom.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:48] what is up with lists.ubuntu.com? === schimmi [n=sts@ppp-62-245-160-219.mnet-online.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === spayne [n=spayne@i-195-137-120-148.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === shackan [n=shackan@host36-78.pool8257.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === blueyed [n=daniel@iD4CC1925.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === xTina [n=xTina@dslb-084-056-141-020.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === xTina [n=xTina@dslb-084-056-141-020.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === blueyed [n=daniel@i53871179.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:17] after the latest usplash upgrade, i no longer have a splash screen on boot [02:17] is this a known bug? === carstenh [n=carstenh@p54A61799.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:18] spayne: Upgrade again [02:19] i just did five minutes ago [02:19] mjg59: do you know what is up with lists.ubuntu.com [02:19] spayne: ? === fabbione [i=fabbione@gordian.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:19] It's delivering mail fine [02:19] mjg59: on the archives, there is nothing for October [02:19] Keybuk: ping? [02:20] There's no archives since the 29th [02:20] So, at a guess, the archiver has fallen over [02:21] fabbione: 'sup? [02:21] Beyond that, no, I have no idea. I'm afraid I'm not a source of secret knowledge. [02:21] Keybuk, yo.. i did review the connection code again [02:21] actually.. while i was painting the roof [02:21] DO IT AGAIN! [02:21] :-) [02:21] fabbione: yup, I put in the loop you suggested [02:22] Keybuk, you must put the loop [02:22] there are other reasons why you want to re-iterate [02:22] like multiple servers [02:22] but one of them isn't providing the service [02:22] yeah, or an AAAA and A address and fallback, etc. [02:22] connect would fail [02:22] exactly [02:23] jamesh: ping [02:23] jdong: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+sources/mono/+bug/2597 do you have any idea where these came from? [02:24] i am off... [02:24] cya guys === fabbione [i=fabbione@gordian.fabbione.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === martinhj [n=martinhj@238.80-202-208.nextgentel.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === chris38-home [n=Christia@LSt-Amand-152-31-21-96.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg@info1-27.info.com.ph] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:50] Riddell: around? === chris38-home2 [n=Christia@82.127.81.96] has joined #ubuntu-devel === thesaltydog [n=fabio@host247-176.pool8257.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === flam [n=flam@ua-83-227-162-252.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #Ubuntu-devel === lemsx1 [n=lemsx1@p86-65.acedsl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lemsx1 [n=lemsx1@p86-65.acedsl.com] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Exiting] === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns01-1967.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === blueyed_ [n=daniel@iD4CC01BD.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:08] jdub: nice interview :) [03:08] jdub: and thanks for the flowers :) [03:08] :-) [03:08] jdub: i have one success story for planet :) [03:08] jdub: that show is really boring if you download the wrong one [03:09] jdub: and you arent on it [03:09] heh [03:09] jdub: hi [03:10] dholbach: what interview? :) [03:10] ivoks: fridge.ubuntu.com [03:10] should the current qt3-mt package 'provides' the one it replaces? [03:10] ah, fridge :) [03:10] ivoks: refresh for my pony [03:10] Riddell: skype (ugh) requires the old package name, but works with the new one [03:11] (serious distrowatch linkage coming in to fridge atm) [03:11] i hope they like ponies [03:11] jdub: which old package name? [03:11] Riddell: libqt3c102-mt [03:12] libqt3-mt-bogglewoo102 [03:12] or that [03:12] heh [03:12] ahhh oktoberfest... [03:12] -mt-mysql shares a similar fate [03:12] libqt3cplusplusisspecialyo102-mt [03:12] jdub: pony? [03:12] jdub: hmm, is there a way to get round that? [03:12] jsgotangco: have you seen him? [03:13] Riddell: Provides: libqt3c102-mt [03:13] if it's acutally compatible [03:13] but running skype seems to work [03:13] it's just hideously slow and ugly [03:13] well, once it appears it's okay, but it takes a looooong time to appear [03:14] jdub: won't that break things that break with libqt3c102-mt? [03:14] but it certainly seems to be happily linking to qt3 [03:14] Riddell: if there's an abi change between libqt3c102-mt and libqt3-mt, then it would be silly to add a Provides [03:14] but whatever skype uses, it works okay === OculusAquilae [n=bastian@p548D0381.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:19]