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nalioththompa: read this and perform: type /msg ubotu restricted12:00
tgamirak, yes, instead of making a linux partition you make a lvm partition and install in that12:00
tgamirak, I think the installer helps you with that12:00
Seveasesac, nothing useful shows up12:00
Inf3ctedfxmirak:  when u install ubuntu, automatically recognize another partition on ur HDD, and mount the group by itself12:00
Seveasask in #gentoo ;)12:00
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Jowimumbles: easiest setup (i have this): read the manual for your router. setup dhcp on the router. tell dhcp to always give your server computer the same ip address (for example 192.168.0.50)12:00
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Inf3ctedfxso, when u boot ur box, it will show u which OS u want to start.. Linux or Windows12:01
Chinamancan anyone help me with ALSA?12:01
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thompanalioth: ok wiki says simply: sudo apt-get install realplayer12:01
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Jowimumbles: that way, your computer recieve its ip from dhcp, but it will always recieve the same address. no change will need to be made on your pc.12:02
gary_Inf3ctedfx get VLC it plays everything (except Realmedia) out of the box, without the need for codec searches12:03
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Hikaru79How can I escape spaces in /etc/exports ? The usual \ doesn't seem to work. Anyone know?12:03
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thompanalioth: thanks. got it.12:03
jodua_ok...I just restarted yet again because I can't stay connected...can anyone help?12:03
mirakInf3ctedfx I don't want to do an install12:04
gary_Inf3ctedfx http://www.videolan.org/vlc/12:04
mumblesgoes to messabout with his router12:04
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Inf3ctedfxgary_: which one?12:04
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UbuntuOneHello people12:04
mirakInf3ctedfx I already have a linux install that I just want to move to another hard drive12:04
gary_see my earlier url12:04
gary_It's above your ?12:04
naliothHikaru79: use "quotes"12:04
SeveasHikaru79, If an export name contains spaces it should be quoted using double quotes12:04
Seveasfrom the manpage...12:04
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UbuntuOneI made a Ubuntu support site, so check it out: www.whereisanykey.com12:04
Hikaru79Ah, thank you!12:04
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janne_NewbieHi all! What means command: aptitude purge <file>12:04
UbuntuOneYou may also join support team if you want12:04
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Seveasjanne_Newbie, <file> is a package name12:05
Seveasand that package will be removed from your system12:05
Inf3ctedfxwhat I'm unbderstand is everytime u want to boot on linuxor windows using another HDD like an slave HDD u have to go first to BIOS and select which HDD u want to boot forst mirak12:05
BlissexUbuntuOne: put a link on the Ubuntu Wiki12:05
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Inf3ctedfxthx gary_12:05
janne_Newbieno....i ment that aptitude purge....i just yesterday use it to remove firefox....12:05
Jowimumbles: if your ROUTER recieved different ip-addresses from your internet provider, there is two options: 1: purchase a static ip from your provider. 2: if your router supports it, use the free services that www.dyndns.org offers.12:05
mirak Inf3ctedfx no12:05
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janne_Newbieand later i used command: aptitude install.....12:06
UbuntuOneOk, I am going blissex. Once again, you may join support team, or you may just ask for support :)12:06
Penguinhello, I'm searching with google and ubuntuforums but I cant find the solution, I have compiled mplayer on my own, that worked, but the problem is that video's on fullscreen are showing only half a part of it, I think it has to do with my monitor setup, its twinview12:06
Jowis/recieved/recieves12:06
butcherbirdmirak: "dd" if same computer might be what you want if im understanding correctly12:06
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janne_Newbiewhat is difference of these? apt-get and aptitude?12:06
Seveasjanne_Newbie, different tools that perform the same task12:07
Jowijanne_Newbie: aptitude has a sortof interface :)12:07
BigbeaverJust installed Sun's java.. Everything works file.. But dose anyone have any idea how to get Java working in Firefox? I'm sure its just a symbolic link somewhere but not sure of the exact locations. Thanks.12:07
mirakbutcherbird it's not the same computer, but I can boot on this system, it's fine. What I want to do is move a normal linux install, on a hard drive that use LVM. I guess I can't use dd12:07
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janne_Newbieok....so i can uninstall package libqt3c102-mt with command: sudo aptitude purge libqt3c102-mt12:08
zephyrmasterUmm... how can I write to a FAT32 partition?12:08
zephyrmasterIt won't let me12:08
grahamhas anyone else had problems detecting the network card during installation?12:09
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Seveasjanne_Newbie, yes indeed12:09
naliothubotu: tell zephyrmaster about windowsdrives12:09
PenguinI think I have to recompile or somthing with an option, dunno what12:09
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JowiPenguin: i think there is a "zoom" option for mplayer. have you tried it?12:10
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janne_Newbienice....and does it help to put my skype to work....bec i have unresolvable dependencies with that package....?12:10
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janne_Newbielike this: skype:12:10
janne_Newbie  Riippuvuudet: libqt3c102-mt (>=3:3.3.3.2) but 3:3.3.3-7ubuntu3 is to be installed12:10
Jowijanne_Newbie: Skype need the qtc102-mt package12:10
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Penguingona search the zoom option12:11
inupiehi12:11
mumbles-otherwonders why disconected12:11
janne_Newbieyes but it wont let me install it bec i have that unresolvable dependencies...12:11
JowiPenguin: it was years ago i used mplayer. think you just type "mplayer -zoom filename.avi" o something...12:11
Ofeubontu: tell ofe about windowsdrives12:11
Seveasjanne_Newbie, hoary?12:11
Seveasor breezy?12:11
Ofeme too please, I will have the same problem. ^^12:11
janne_Newbieyes...12:12
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Seveaswhich one?12:12
janne_Newbieis there some force install command...?12:12
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Kyralapt-get -f install12:12
inupiecan somebody tell me how can i know the package that provides libXaw3d.so.7 ?12:12
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Seveasjanne_Newbie, hoary or breezy?12:12
janne_Newbiehoary( 5.04)12:13
janne_Newbieis that breezy that new one...12:13
Trashcanyeah12:13
Trashcan5.1012:13
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zephyrmasterHmm12:13
Trashcanso by preview do they mean beta? or rc?12:13
zephyrmasterIt says the drive is already mounted or busy12:13
zephyrmasterUnder the Disks Manager I made a folder as an access path for the partition12:14
Seveasjanne_Newbie, get http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/breezy-extras/skype-hoary.deb12:14
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zephyrmasterIs that not smart? Because I can see the files, just not edit them12:14
Seveasthat will install on hoary with sudo dpkg -i skype-hoary.deb12:14
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zephyrmasterI can't delete the folder either12:14
xandrahi guys12:14
janne_Newbieok...ill try12:14
xandracan someone help me12:14
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g|patrickhi12:14
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g|patrickneed help ;(12:14
SeveasTrashcan, the preview release is an RC12:14
Trashcanalright12:14
g|patrickhave accedently deleted the upper toolbar in gnome12:14
g|patrickhow can i restore it12:15
naliothg|patrick: ask a question. don't state the obvious12:15
Seveasg|patrick, click on the lower, select 'New panel'12:15
xandrahow can i install my ati drivers to work with 3d accelari12:15
Seveas!tell xandra about ati12:15
tgahmm.. no postgresql 8 packages for Ubuntu?12:15
g|patrickSeveas: and then?12:15
g|patricki dont mean to drag'n'drop it back12:15
odd-Brb12:15
naliothSeveas: it's time for bed. you are typing faster then i am lately12:15
g|patrickthat doesnt work12:15
iiiearsxandra "fglrx" drivers for ati12:15
xandrayes12:15
g|patrickthe tray funciton isnt displayed12:15
inupiecan somebody tell me how can i know the package that provides libXaw3d.so.7 ?      maybe Xaw3dg?12:15
zephyrmasterCan anyone help me?12:15
zephyrmasterI can't write to the partition, only read from it12:16
zephyrmasterIt's FAT3212:16
xandrathank you seveas12:16
Seveas!info postgresql-8.012:16
iiiearsG'nite nalioth. :)12:16
zephyrmasterI made an access path as just a normal folder12:16
Seveas!info postgresql-8.0 breezy12:16
g|patrickgn8 nalioth12:16
ubotupostgresql-8.0: (object-relational SQL database, version 8.0 server), section misc, is optional. Version: 8.0.3-15ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 2737 kB, Installed size: 12084 kB12:16
iiiears!ati12:16
ubotuI heard ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx12:16
Jowizephyrmaster: you need to unmount the disk before you can add write permissions for it.12:16
jmghmm i dont think ipython is working as it should12:16
g|patrickSeveas: whats next?12:16
Seveastga, so only in breezy :)12:16
zephyrmasterJowi, how do I unmount the disk?12:16
g|patrickhow can i restore the default setup?12:16
xandrathank you iiiears12:16
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xandra:)12:16
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zephyrmasterThe status says inaccessible12:17
Seveasg|patrick, readd everything that was on that panel12:17
naliothzephyrmaster: ubotu sent you a msg, did you read it?12:17
Jowizephyrmaster: sudo umount /dev/hda1 (for example)12:17
iiiears"linux community" ;)12:17
g|patrickSeveas: the tray function isnt in that tool12:17
g|patricki couldnt restore it :(12:17
Seveasg|patrick, notification area12:17
zephyrmasternalioth, I read and ran the script12:17
Jowizephyrmaster: or... "sudo umount /path/to/mount"12:17
zephyrmasterIt mounted the partition with Windows on it12:17
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zephyrmasterBut not the FAT 32 partition12:17
naliothzephyrmaster: in /media you should be able to read and write to any fat32 stuff12:17
Trashcanman, my breezy update keeps slowing down12:17
Trashcanit started off at about 650kbs and now its at 4012:18
g|patrickSeveas: ah... i'll try12:18
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g|patrickyaaaa :D12:18
g|patrickthank u Seveas12:18
Trashcani probably should have added a CD source eh12:18
Trashcansince i already have it burned12:18
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Seveasrofl12:18
Seveasyeah12:18
cafuego_Meh12:18
Ofehey, someone who has the rights to the bot. "!ubotu tell Ofe about windrives" I will have problems with that.12:18
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procrastinationnim here12:18
Seveascafuego, moo12:18
Penguinnah zoom doesnt work, I think i need to recompile my mplayer with an option so he doesnt he I'm using such a big resolution or seeing that I'm using twinview12:18
odd-Back.12:18
cafuego_Seveas: hairy koo?12:18
Seveascafuego_, get some coffe, grumpy ;)12:18
Penguinit worked with mplayer from teh repos12:18
Trashcangah12:19
Trashcanim stupid12:19
Trashcan:(12:19
Jowiubotu, tell Ofe about windowsdrives12:19
Trashcan1h35m remaining12:19
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cafuego_Seveas: I have a large MUG of espresso.12:19
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JustinHHwhen i restart my computer, my grub does`t load ant more (error). now i am running the live cd :((12:19
Trashcanwould be shorter just to reinstall12:19
Seveascafuego_, good :)12:19
JustinHHgow can i reconfigure it?12:19
iiiearsHi cafuego :012:19
UbuntuOneHaving problems with Ubuntu? Fear no more. Visit www.whereisanykey.com and get solution for all your problems :p12:19
Jowiubotu, tell zephyrmaster about windowsdrives12:19
Trashcancafuego_ Seveas: I have a large MUG of espresso. <-- i love you12:19
JustinHH(i have lag)12:19
SeveasJustinHH, wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterINstallingWindows12:19
cafuego_Trashcan: get the hell away from my coffee!12:19
g|patrickjust noticed something weired12:20
Trashcan:'(12:20
Trashcanbut12:20
TrashcanIM COLD12:20
iiiears!grub12:20
ubotu[grub]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting12:20
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g|patrickwhy are the performance states fo cool'n'quite not changing automatically12:20
g|patricki always have to use that crappy tool ;(12:20
SeveasTrashcan, it's 8 am where he lives, he's just grumpy :)12:20
Trashcan:p12:20
iiiears... erm - hope that helps12:20
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Trashcanoh gawd its already 3:20 on saturday12:20
Trashcanwhere did the day go12:20
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g|patrickcalled cpufreq monitor12:21
Dr_Willistime flys when doenloading porn.12:21
Dr_Willis:P12:21
=== cafuego_ is always grumpy during am, and usually pm too.
Trashcanshh willis12:21
iiiears<< - been playing UT2k4 for about 6 hours what is sleep?12:21
g|patrickisnt it possible to make it working as in windows12:21
inupiecan somebody tell me how can i know the package that provides libXaw3d.so.7 ?      maybe Xaw3dg?12:21
cafuego_g|patrick: If you install powernowd, it will automagically adjust.12:21
Trashcanman if them bloody servers would keep me above 400kbs i'd  be fine :)12:21
Trashcan277.. not bad12:22
icewtanyone happen to know a program that allows cutting mp3 files without quality loss? (for windows there's for example mp3trim)12:22
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cafuego_g|patrick: and then the cpu freq applet on the panel will show you, too.12:22
Leoniki cannot access synaptic or anythign because it says its in use12:22
Leonikbut nothing else is running12:22
g|patrickcafuego: it is installed12:22
g|patrickthats why i am confused12:22
cafuego_g|patrick: is it running?12:22
JowiLeonik: close all programs that uses apt (aptitude and synaptic)12:22
Pickle_Weaselwhat port does ssh use?12:23
cafuego_2212:23
Leoniknothing is running though12:23
Trashcan2212:23
Pickle_Weaselthank you12:23
Leonikexcept xchat12:23
g|patrickcafuego: it is...12:23
Trashcanbtw what is the command to shut down ssh?12:23
JowiLeonik: try "killall synaptic"12:23
cafuego_22/tcp to be exact.12:23
Manawyddandoes anyone use Borland tools under Linux, and what is your opinion about it?12:23
Leonikoy nm12:23
g|patrickdoes it have problems wiht that cpufreq-tray?12:23
Trashcani ended up uninstalling vsFTPd and openSSH because i couldn't figure out how to shut them off :)12:23
Leonikwheni  run glxgears in breezy i get terrible framerate and it doesnt report the fps12:23
cafuego_g|patrick: I use the standard thingie that comes with the panel-data package. Works fine.12:23
Leonikhow can i fix this?12:23
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g|patrickya.. .me too12:24
cafuego_Trashcan: 'rcconf'.12:24
g|patrickits called cpufreq monitor12:24
g|patrickisnt it?12:24
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cafuego_g|patrick: no.12:24
g|patrickno12:24
cafuego_"CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor"12:24
Trashcancafuego: command not found12:24
naliothLeonik: type glxgears --help12:24
Trashcanno rcconf, no rconf, etc.12:24
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cafuego_Trashcan: Correct, you need to install it.12:25
Chinamancrimsun: i need help12:25
Trashcanahh roger :)12:25
jrattner1Iget the following error when starting armops: Couldn't set video mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual , any clues12:25
g|patrickin "add to panel" in utilities its called cpufreq monitor12:25
Trashcanthanks caf12:25
iiiearsicewt - nice question (i'm a newb also) a quick google and it looks like mplayer is the right application.12:25
Chinamancrimsun: i need help with ALSA12:25
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iiiearsfor resampling mp3s12:25
crimsunChinaman, what's the issue?12:25
cafuego_g|patrick: No, it's also called "CPU Frequency Scaling Minitor" there for me.12:25
Chinamanwell yesterday we got past the point of finding which driver to install12:25
Chinamanca010612:25
Chinamanand then you left12:25
crimsunChinaman, all the instructions you need were given to you12:26
Chinamanhmm12:26
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crimsunthat's why I created that factoid12:26
protok0lhow do i install perl modules?12:26
protok0lwith apt12:26
icewtiiiears, hm.. thanks, i'll look into it then. i didn't know it could do that too ;)12:26
Chinamancrimsun: can you show me that again?12:26
UbuntuOneDo you have any questions or problems with Ubuntu?? visit www.whereisanykey.com and solve them :)12:27
Trashcanalright lets try this again12:27
TrashcanWOW12:27
Trashcani put the breezy CD in12:27
Trashcan'automatically upgrade12:27
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cafuego_UbuntuOne: Please don't spam urls in here.12:27
cafuego_Trashcan: Neet eh :-)12:27
iiiearsicewt, - also a nice script here for wma conversion to mp3  http://blogs.linux.ie/xeer/2005/08/16/how-to-convert-from-wma-to-mp3/12:27
Trashcan<--- impressed12:28
Chinamancrimsun: was it alsa-source?12:28
UbuntuOneOk, sorry :p12:28
mr_robotosorry for offtopic but does anyone here use Umbrello? nobody answering in #umbrello12:28
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jrattner1Are there ati drivers for ubuntu12:28
Jowiyes jrattner112:29
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jrattner1Jowi, where are they available12:29
crimsunChinaman, yes12:29
Jowiubotu: tell jrattner1 about ati12:29
spindleywhich ftp clients do you guys use?12:29
spindleycause like, gftp really sucks12:29
icewtiiiears, ok, thanks. at the moment i'm just looking to cut a 4min. part out of a about 2 hour mp3 :)12:29
mr_robotocommand line 'ftp' :)12:29
cafuego_lftp12:29
g|patricki re12:29
g|patrickwell12:29
atila_sendilhi all; any place to get backports ? the original site seems to be empty12:29
g|patricknow i lost most of my applets12:29
spindleyi kinda liked kasablanca when i used it on gentoo12:30
cafuego_But usually 'wget' or 'sftp'.12:30
g|patrickand the slider to control the speed12:30
naliothubotu: tell atila_sendil about backports12:30
g|patrickand the cool'n'quite doesnt clock either12:30
g|patrickcrap12:30
mr_robotocafuego, those aren't ftp clients though :)12:30
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mr_robotohttp and ssh clients12:30
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TokenBadis there a way to in ubuntu to tell what a avi file in encoded with? I have one that keeps crashing mplayer cause it can't decode the audio..12:30
Chinamancrimsun: i did that12:30
crimsunChinaman, did what? Be precise.12:30
naliothTokenBad: in a terminal, type "file file.avi"12:30
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Chinamansudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r) alsa-source && cd /usr/src && sudo tar xfj alsa-driver.tar.bz2 && sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-source && cd modules/alsa-driver && sudo debian/rules binary_modules KSRC=/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build KVERS=$(uname -r) && sudo dpkg -i ../alsa-modules*.deb12:31
Chinamanthat12:31
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inthenowwhat do we need to get sympatico dsl running?12:31
g|patrickso why did THIS happen?12:31
iiiearsicewt, - let me poke around a bit more. - gotta be an easier way than mplayer.12:31
g|patrick;(12:31
crimsunChinaman, then what's the issue?12:31
Chinamancrimsun: where do i go from there?12:32
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Chinamantotem still doesn't play anything12:32
TokenBadnalioth, Try A Teen 6 DVDRip.avi: RIFF (little-endian) data, AVI, 496 x 368, 29.97 fps, video: DivX 5, audio: Dolby AC3 (stereo, 48000 Hz)12:32
icewtiiiears, i actually found one program, http://minnie.tuhs.org/Programs/Mpcut/index.html - i guess i would just need to compile it myself12:32
Chinamanand multimedia systems selector says my pipeline is invalid12:32
crimsunChinaman, have you loaded snd-ca0106 like I told you yesterday?12:32
inthenowwhat will i need to get sympatico dsl working in ubuntu? what packages?12:32
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naliothTokenBad: so there you go. divx512:32
crimsunuh ok.12:32
TokenBadthe video it does..its the audio12:32
Penguinhello, I'm searching with google and ubuntuforums but I cant find the solution, I have compiled mplayer on my own, that worked, but the problem is that video's on fullscreen are showing only half a part of it, I think it has to do with my monitor setup, its twinview, if anybody knows a specific compiling option for this, pls tell12:33
Penguinzoom doesnt work12:33
naliothTokenBad: you see all there is to know about the file12:33
thompanalioth: do you know the directory of real player?12:33
Kenneth2Penguin: gmplayer -zoom file12:33
TokenBadis there a codec I need to do the audio?12:33
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thompai am at the installer but cant find it12:33
Jowiinthenow: what is "sympatico"?12:33
Chinamancrimsun: something happened to my gaim12:33
inthenowJowi: dsl12:33
atila_sendilty nalioth :-) bye all12:33
naliothTokenBad: ac3?12:34
Penguinand what do I have todo then Kenneth2 ?12:34
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crimsunChinaman, have you loaded snd-ca0106 like I told you yesterday?12:34
Penguinstill doenst work though12:34
g|patrickhello12:34
inthenowhttp://www.bell.ca/shop/PrsShpIntDslLite_Landing.page12:34
Chinamancrimsun: yes12:34
iiiearsicewt - is "Audacity" any good? - or is there a limit to the file size you can edit?12:34
Jowiinthenow: dsl what? modem?12:34
g|patrick:(12:34
TokenBadI have all the codecs from the ubuntuguide page12:34
inthenowJowi: http://www.bell.ca/shop/PrsShpIntDslLite_Landing.page12:34
g|patricknobody notices me ;(12:34
naliothiiiears: limited by your system12:34
crimsunChinaman, cat /proc/asound/cards12:34
naliothg|patrick: we see you.12:34
g|patrickreally :)12:34
Kenneth2Penguin: If you use gui (gmplayer) then start gmplayer with the command "gmplayer -zoom" then open the file and chose "fullscreen".12:34
iiiearsThanks nalioth. :)12:35
naliothiiiears: if you have a box with quad procs and 16gb ram, you can open a mighty big audio file12:35
Chinamancrimsun: we got to the point after i selected yes to debug and selected ca010612:35
icewtiiiears, i think it would require re-encoding the file (?)12:35
Chinamanand then pressed ok12:35
Jowiinthenow: that page tells me nothing. is it your internet service provider?12:35
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crimsunChinaman, uh no, I meant did you modprobe snd-ca010612:35
Penguindoesnt work Kenneth2, the video is still half of the screen12:35
inthenowJowi: not mine, but im switching to it12:35
Chinamani am currently in the /usr/src/modules/alsa-driver12:35
Jowiinthenow: (takes me to Bell canada)12:35
iiiears<< liquid cooled celeron. (spilled coffee mostly.)12:35
Kenneth2Penguin: Does it work? Just installed mplayer myself. Im currently watching StarGate in fullscreen :)12:35
Penguinits not half, but its big12:35
thompanevermind. i found the instructions12:36
inthenowJowi: just wonder what packages are needed to switch12:36
Chinamancrimsun: i did not12:36
inthenowJowi: cause its dsl12:36
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PenguinI'm gonna make a screen shot tomorow, to tired, solving it for like 3 hours now, little bit pist off of it12:36
Jowiinthenow: if it is a normal dsl which uses a dsl-modem: it depends on what modem you recieve.12:36
chrimemoin12:36
Chinamancrimsun: where do i do that12:36
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Kenneth2Penguin: Does it fill the entire screen?12:36
Penguinyeah12:36
g|patrickhave to restart12:36
g|patrickbrb12:36
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inthenowJowi: the modem driver will have to be a module?12:37
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Penguinbut there is half of a prt missing12:37
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Penguinits like panarama12:37
crimsunChinaman, has that entire command you pasted completed?12:37
Penguinbut on one screen12:37
Chinamancrimsun: yes it is12:37
mztrizhey, can someone help me with my sound card?12:37
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crimsunmztriz, what's the issue?12:37
chrimebya12:37
Jowiinthenow: usually, yes. most modems should be autodetected when "hotplug" kicks in during boot.12:37
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crimsunChinaman, so you're back at a shell prompt?12:37
Chinamanback in terminal12:37
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mztrizCrimsun, I don't know how to get it to work it's snd cs423612:38
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Chinamanin this directory: /usr/src/modules/alsa-driver12:38
PenguinKenneth2, gonna solve it tomorow, doing it now for 3 hours (no joke) I'm tired of it now12:38
inthenowwhats colony 5?12:38
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inthenowanyone using sympatico?12:38
eppwhat would be a good desktop manager for a 850mhz celeron?12:38
crimsunChinaman, so now sudo modprobe snd-ca010612:38
Trashcanwindowmaker?12:38
Jowiinthenow: best thing to do is to ask them if you can use your existing dsl-modem to connect to them (shouldn't be a problem unless you have a really crappy modem)12:38
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Trashcanim running gnome on a 995mhz p3, its fine12:39
butcherbirdepp: love fluxbox12:39
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Trashcana little laggy thanks to broken drivers12:39
inthenowJowi: i dont have dsl i have cable now12:39
Jowiinthenow: ahhhh, ok12:39
inthenowJowi: switching from cable12:39
eppbutcherbird, sounds good!12:39
Kenneth2Do i have to re-install when Breezy "final release" is out? Or does apt-get handle the upgrade?12:39
Chinamancrimsun: FATAL: Module snd_ca0106 not found.12:39
ChinamanFATAL: Error running install command for snd_ca010612:39
Jowiinthenow: then you can not lose :)12:39
crimsunChinaman, dpkg -l alsa-modules-\*|grep ^ii12:40
gpdjust wanted to scream at the person who decided that beep-media players default skin should include mysterious symbols with NO TOOL TIPS! /rant12:40
eppbutcherbird: is it faster that xfce?12:40
Chinamancrimsun: No packages found matching alsa-modules-*.12:40
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inthenowif i have breezy updated do i already have colony?12:40
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Trashcananyone have a link to a *good* working NASM syntax file for gnome? (gedit)12:40
Dr_Willisinthenow,  i think so. :P12:40
Jowiinthenow: find out which modem you might recieve, come back here, and ask the question again.12:41
butcherbirdepp: never used xfce much but it cant be much slower that blackbox so I would say yes12:41
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crimsunmztriz, is snd-cs4236 loaded?12:41
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Dr_Willisthats whats nice about the whole apt system - it can keep stuff up to date easier.12:41
g|patrickcrap12:41
jrattner1After reading the ATI howto and following it, X no longer boots, currently I'm stuck in console mode and using ircii12:41
naliothKenneth2: apt handles all upgrades12:41
butcherbirdepp: very small footprint12:41
g|patrickit still doesnt work unless i use taht tray tool12:41
inthenowJowi: ok i will thanks12:41
eppsweet12:41
g|patrickany clues so far12:41
dave7xhi. i got a bit of a prob, maybe sumbody cud help me out. ive just downloaded the iso and am now using it on vmware 5.5 (seems like the best way to try it out to me, cant realli reboot). anyway, i ran thru the default install thing...but now i cant actually get anywhere. it restarts (had to force it to do that, maybe thats it?) and then boots up, loads the ubuntu screen...then crashes to, well, a command line, with error "Ale12:41
g|patricki am at a loss12:41
mztrizcrimsun, I'm not entirely sure what you mean by that12:42
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crimsunmztriz, lsmod|grep ^snd_cs423612:42
Chinamancrimsun: can we go to alsa channel and do this?12:42
Trashcandave: sounds like it can't set up X on the vmware adapter emulation12:42
crimsunChinaman, what was the last step you did?12:42
jrattner1After reading the ATI howto and following it, X no longer boots, currently I'm stuck in console mode and using ircii12:42
eppi will just get fluxbox and xfce12:43
Chinamani chose ca0106 and pressed enter12:43
jrattner1any suggestions?12:43
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butcherbirdepp: I use bblean in XP instead of explorer shell as well.  Just got used to the interface12:43
mztrizCrimsun,  lsmod|grep ^snd_cs4236 appeared to do nothing12:43
relaxi want add marilat to my sources.list12:43
crimsunChinaman, did you execute the debian/rules command?12:43
Chinamannow i'm in the /usr/src/modules/alsa-driver12:43
naliothjrattner1: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and choose the VESA driver12:43
crimsunmztriz, so that module is not loaded.12:43
relaxhere can i find ?12:43
Chinamancrimsun: what's that?12:43
eppbutcherbird, sweet12:43
jrattner1nalioth: wil that work from the command line?12:43
crimsunmztriz, sudo modprobe snd-cs423612:43
naliothrelax: you'll mess up your box12:43
naliothjrattner1: yes12:43
dave7xtrashcan: ok, sounds bout rite, thts wot the vmware hlp thing says...but i cant get its instructions to work. apparently i shud b able to get sumwhere wi x after i install the additions thingy - but i just cant get them 2 install. any suggestions?12:44
jrattner1nalioth: previously it was on mesa does that matter?12:44
eppbutcherbird: how do i mount my ntfs partiton?12:44
logan001101what is backport to download fluxbox????12:44
Trashcani have no idea past that, dave12:44
logan001101mirromax doesnt work12:44
crimsunChinaman, did you actually read the factoid for alsa-source?12:44
mztrizCrimsun, I don't think that did anything either.12:44
Trashcannever tried installing ubuntu on VM/VPC12:44
naliothjrattner1: i know VESA will drive anything with a vga adaptor12:44
crimsunmztriz, that's good12:44
dave7xtrashcan: ah well thanks anyway mate :)12:44
crimsunmztriz, cat /proc/asound/cards12:44
logan001101what is backport to download fluxbox????12:44
naliothubotu tell epp about ntfs12:44
mztrizCrimsun ok12:44
logan001101mirromax doesnt work12:44
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jrattner1nalioth: naolioth what is the command again it flew by in ircii ;012:44
jrattner1: )12:44
naliothubotu: tell logan001101 about backports12:44
butcherbirdepp: sudo mount -o umask=0000 /dev/hda1 /something should work.  Not sure if yours is hda1 of course12:45
mztrizCrimsun, 0 [CS4236B        ] : CS4236B - CS4236B12:45
mztriz                     CS4236B at 0x534, irq 5, dma 1&312:45
g|patrickwhats "sysfs support enabled"12:45
WebCruserHi, all - new to Linux, new to IRC. Can't install, haven't gotten any help in forums. Install stuck on "Starting hotplug subsystem..." Any suggestions?:-S12:45
Dr_Willisg|patrick,  recompilin your own kernel?12:45
dbakdsjadsapingme pls12:45
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naliothubotu: tell butcherbird about ntfs12:45
dave7xtrashcan: do you know how to force it to a command line thing where id b able to type instead of using x?12:45
crimsunmztriz, excellent. Now you should use alsamixer or Volume Control to unmute Master & PCM and increase the volumes12:45
Dr_WillisWebCruser,  the install cd is getting stuck at that?12:45
eppbutcherbird,  mine is hda1 but i have linux running on there too12:45
naliothjrattner1: check your msgs12:45
logan001101guys12:45
logan001101what is backport to download fluxbox????12:46
g|patrickDr_Willis: no just tryiing to get powernow operable12:46
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Chinamancrimsun: i don't think you sent me the factoid12:46
logan001101mirromax doesnt work12:46
Dr_Willislogan001101,  i thoguht it was in multuiverse myself.12:46
logan001101guys12:46
jrattner1naolioth I dont know how I'm not expierenced with ircii12:46
g|patrick"This daemon is less complicated than cpufreqd or cpudyn, at the cost of12:46
g|patrickabsolutely depending on a 2.6 kernel with the userspace governor and sysfs12:46
g|patricksupport enabled."12:46
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naliothlogan001101: read your private msgs12:46
g|patrickthats said12:46
Chinamanlogan00101: mirrormax doesn't work for me either12:46
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crimsunChinaman, I don't need to. /msg ubotu tell me about alsa-source12:46
logan001101i tried and got 404 error12:46
butcherbirdepp: sudo fdisk -l should show you which one you need there12:46
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naliothjrattner1: do you see red numbers on the blue line at the bottom?12:46
g|patrickwell.. kernel - check12:46
Jan`hihi all12:46
Fred|Fr3dhey... does SSH run over TCP/IP or UDP?12:46
mztrizCrimsun, thanks!!12:46
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jrattner1naolith yes I do12:46
WebCruserHi, Dr_Willis: yup. Total repartition, started from HD, then stalls on boot12:46
g|patrickthat govenour applet - check12:46
crimsunmztriz, hear anything?12:46
cafuego_!test12:46
Jan`I noticed that there's a lot of accessibility stuff in ubuntu, especially a screenreader12:46
Jan`how well does all that stuff work?12:46
naliothjrattner1: alt + the red number12:46
g|patrickbut sysfs???12:46
cafuego_<hehehe>12:46
Dr_WillisWebCruser,  what sort of system anyway?12:46
Jowilogan001101: backports have other mirrors you can try.12:47
naliothlogan001101: ubotu sent you a msg12:47
Fred|Fr3ddoes SSH use TCPIP or UDP protocol?12:47
logan001101dont understand12:47
logan001101ah12:47
crimsunFred|Fr3d, TCP12:47
Fred|Fr3dthanks12:47
Chinamanubotu isn't there12:47
logan001101nalioth: im trying ...................12:47
bastihow do I configure my webcam ?? any program that could be recommended?12:47
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crimsunChinaman, you just pasted the entire factoid above anyhow12:47
cafuego_I made ubotu crash, he'll be back in 10 seconds.12:48
ubuntu_hi12:48
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Jowiwb ubotu12:48
cafuego_!test12:48
ubotuWorking....12:48
Jan`wbies ubotu :)12:48
Seveascafuego_, bad boy!12:48
g|patrickwhats sysfs?12:48
WebCruserDr_Willis: Mac G3 B&W/yosemite with new HD without Mac system, 384MB RAM, otherwise factory model with SCSI unused, no attached Firewire or USB except keyboard & mouse.12:48
Fred|Fr3dcrimsun: you know whether IRC on 6667 is tcpip or udp too? :D12:48
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cafuego_Seveas: mysql update12:48
g|patrickgoogle didnt ?ave me a clue ;(12:48
Chinamanum...i can't see myself12:48
Chinamantyping it12:48
logicushi there from a sparkling new ubuntu user who cant figure out how to setup ubuntu to use danish12:48
naliothWebCruser: go for it12:48
Chinamansigh...12:48
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Chinamancrimsun: i can't see any link12:49
crimsunFred|Fr3d, 6667 is just a port. It can be either TCP or UDP. IRC servers use TCP.12:49
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Fred|Fr3dthanks again crimsun. i know that it's a port tho :P12:49
thompacan someone help me with realplayer?12:49
JustinHHpingme pls12:49
WebCrusernalioth: OK, here goes reboot...12:49
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Chinamancrimsun: can you send me the factoid?12:50
crimsunChinaman, look at what you typed 21 minutes ago.12:50
thompathe installer for realplayer wants rp8_linux20_libc6_i386_cs2_rpm12:50
crimsunwell, 19 minutes ago.12:50
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thompaso i changed the name of realplayer 1012:51
Chinamanmy gaim crashed before that crimsun12:51
thompadoes not work12:51
JustinHHi have some problems with the program that lets me choose from wich partition i shoul boot (error). how can i install it?12:51
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Chinamanafter that, i mean12:51
Dr_WillisWebCruser,  eww.. i know very very little about the stuff on powerpc hardware. sorry.12:51
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JustinHHi have some problems with the program that lets me choose from wich partition i shoul boot (error). how can i reinstall it without needing to reinstal my windows and linux?12:51
thompa./RealPlayer10GOLD-1.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5:12:51
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thompahow do i  install the bugger?12:52
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iiiearsbasti - "gqcam" in synaptic looks interesting.12:52
Trashcananyone recommend a favorite BNC for *nix?12:52
Fred|Fr3dTrashcan: PsyBNC12:52
WebCruserDr_Willis: Thanks, though. Do you know any other resources that may be of some help?12:52
cafuego_thompa: Give 'helixplayer' a try instead.12:52
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thompathe ubuntu installer is for realplayer812:52
Trashcanthansk fred12:52
Fred|Fr3dno problem12:52
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crimsunChinaman, gaim couldn't have crashed right then. You typed it here in the channel, and we all saw it.12:53
thompai used to be able to install from the web site the binary12:53
jmgdamn, i cant gparted to move my root partition :(12:53
crimsunubotu, tell Chinaman about alsa-source12:53
TrackilizerIs there anyway i can make a link of my mounted FAT32 drive to my desktop?12:53
naliothjmg: you need to be using the livecd12:53
thompahelix is same is it not?12:53
naliothjmg: parted wont work on a mounted disk12:53
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jmgnalioth: someone should wrap it into a boot image, like memtest86+12:54
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naliothjmg: it is in a boot image. on both CDs12:54
thompathe ubuntu installer says to download the file from realone then change the name.12:54
JustinHHTrackilizer, do you know how to mount ntfs drives?12:54
JowiTrackilizer: drag'n'drop the mounted folder to the desktop, creating a shortcut?12:54
jmgnalioth: but your comment on live cd is noted.12:54
thompabig waste of time12:54
Pickle_Weaselwhoa12:54
Pickle_Weaselubotu is gone12:54
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Pickle_Weasel12:54
Pickle_Weaseloh wait..he's back..12:54
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jmghey seaking of which.. can you install the livecd image yet?12:54
Inf3ctedfxDoes anybody knows or is familiar with the VLC?12:54
Pickle_Weasel=\12:54
Mars__^hi12:55
mkyb14anyone here good with GRUB... and know what 'error 17 ' means?12:55
Mars__^I have problem with ubuntu12:55
jmgspeaking*12:55
TrackilizerI already did mount the drive, i just want to make a shortcut of it on my desktop.12:55
thompamissing libstdc++.so.5:12:55
jmgmkyb14: your question should be "anyone good with google"12:55
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butcherbirdInf3ctedfx: problem with vlc?12:55
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Dr_WillisInf3ctedfx,  ive used vlc in the past :P12:55
Mars__^I installed opera for ubuntu and my internet connection is very very slower now. What schould I do. Maybe uninstall Opera? How?12:56
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thompanalioth: sorrt to bother you. can you help me with realplayer?12:56
spanglesontoastis there a good c++ editor out therE?12:56
Jowithompa: is libstdc++5 installed?12:56
JustinHHcan i install just grub?12:56
thompano its not12:56
Inf3ctedfxwell I just download it.. I can hear the sound on the video but I can't see the video butcherbird12:56
theoohow come I can't play mp3 on the ubuntu player? It says 'need to downloda plugin'12:56
Inf3ctedfxso, I dont know if I have to do something else12:56
Jowithompa: "sudo apt-get install libstdc++5" should do it12:56
butcherbirdInf3ctedfx: what extension is the file youre playing?\12:56
nalioththompa: try the helix player from the realplayer home page12:56
stpere!tell theoo about mp312:56
JustinHHfrom dos12:56
TrackilizerSo, would anyone happen to know how to make a shortcut of the mounted drive on my desktop?12:56
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Inf3ctedfxwmv12:57
Inf3ctedfxbutcherbird:  is wvm12:57
thomparight thanks. then can i install as normal via the real.com site?12:57
butcherbirdTrackilizer: you could always ln -s12:57
Chinamancrimsun: is this a problem:12:57
ChinamanPlease, install the package with full kernel sources for your distribution12:57
Chinamanor use --with-kernel=dir option to specify another directory with kernel12:57
Chinamansources (default is /usr/src/linux).12:57
Chinamanmake: *** [configure-stamp]  Error 112:57
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thompaby the way the version is now -1 so the instructions are old12:57
Dr_Willis!ati12:57
ubotuati is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx12:57
Trackilizerbutcherbird, would you mind telling me what you really mean.12:57
n00bsterhello, whare can I Find on the Applocations menu, the subuntu-calendar ?12:57
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naliothChinaman: do not paste in here, please12:57
butcherbirdInf3ctedfx: I might be wrong but I dont THINK vlc handles wmv anyone else know?12:58
Jowithompa: installed real ages ago, can't tell if it work now or not (not really keen on removing it to test)12:58
crimsunChinaman, dpkg -l linux-headers-$(uname -r)|grep ^ii12:58
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Inf3ctedfxsomeone told me donwload it if I want to play wmv12:58
naliothInf3ctedfx: newer wmvs wont play at all12:58
Inf3ctedfxmmmm ok12:58
Jowithompa: ...but the version i have now is from their site anyway.12:58
Chinamancrimsun: do i need to type sudo install before that?12:58
iiiearsInf3ctedfx, - w32codecs - for wma,  no?12:59
Chinamanor something ike that?12:59
crimsunChinaman, what?12:59
thompajowi: thanks12:59
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crimsunChinaman, I really don't see how you didn't follow precisely what the factoid for alsa-source told you.12:59
Chinamancrimsun: do i just type that? because that gave me an error12:59
thompanow it works12:59
Chinamani did12:59
lakinWhen GDM starts, it completely ignores the settings in the xorg.conf and uses 1280x1024, but if I kill GDM and just use start X, then it properly uses the full 1680x1050 that my laptop can do.  What's even wierder is that /var/log/Xorg.0.log actually reports different modes depending on whether I'm using startx or gdm.12:59
lakinDoes anyone have any ideas?12:59
Inf3ctedfxiiiears:  where I can donwload those ?12:59
Chinamani did both steps12:59
thompaavoid ubuntu realplayer installer!12:59
crimsunChinaman, if so, then you wouldn't get the error you just did.01:00
butcherbirdTrackilizer: ln -s creates a symbolic link basically a 'shortcut' to whatever file you want01:00
jmgwooo01:00
crimsunChinaman, what is the output from dpkg -l linux-headers-$(uname -r)|grep ^ii01:00
n00bsterHow can i launch the ubuntu-calendar ?01:00
thomparealplayer works. !!!01:00
iiiearsubuntu's developers work very hard to use only OSS - and the first thing i do every time is add M$ codecs DOH!  - it is on the web somewhere. wish i had a link for you. sorry.01:00
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naliothn00bster: you dont. ubuntu-calendar is a series of monthly wallpapers01:00
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tristanmikeInf3ctedfx, w32codecs ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb01:01
Chinamancrimsun: it says command not found01:01
cddesjaris there a way to restart x on the kubuntu live cd?01:01
butcherbirdTrackilizer: you could create a symbolic link in your /home/user/Desktop dir. Im sorry I dont know how to do this through the gui in gnome01:01
thompaJowi: still its an extra step or 2. Ubuntu is supposed to be less steps not more.01:01
cddesjari've tried xkill01:01
Inf3ctedfxthx tristanmike01:01
Chinamanis there something else i have to change in the 2nd step on factoid besides the uname?01:01
naliothubuntulog: tell tristanmike about w32codecs01:01
cddesjarand /etc/init.d/kdm stop01:01
thompaThe installer is like 8 steps01:01
naliothubotu: tell Inf3ctedfx about w32codecs01:01
cddesjarand they crash01:01
crimsunChinaman, dude, do not change a single thing.01:01
naliothubotu: tell tristanmike about w32codecs01:01
cddesjaralso i don't know remember how to restart cardmgr?01:01
Chinamani don't?!01:01
jrattner1Naolith is there a way for me to change back to my previous xorg config?01:01
Chinaman>.<01:01
mr_robotocddesjar: can you just <ctrl><alt><backspace>?01:01
crimsunChinaman, the reason I typed that entire factoid was so people could copy and paste the darned thing01:01
Inf3ctedfxohh question tristanmike just install the package and thats it? or I have to do something else?01:02
naliothjrattner1: the one that doesnt work?01:02
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n00bsteroh, but i just recived en Aouto update of them, whare are they ont the FileSystem?01:02
tristanmikenalioth, yes, they are torrents, what if he doesn't want to torrent?01:02
cddesjarwhat does that do mr roboto:01:02
jrattner1nalioth, the one previous to that01:02
cddesjardoes that kill x and restart it?01:02
mr_robotocddesjar: kills the x server and restarts, yes01:02
cddesjari am trying to reconfigure my xorg.conf01:02
cddesjarok i'll try that thanks!01:02
Jowithompa: that's Real for you :)01:02
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cddesjardo you know how to restart cardmgr?01:02
naliothtristanmike: the hoary ones are direct downloads01:02
tristanmikenalioth, nevermind, my bad sorry01:02
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tristanmikenalioth, too quick for me01:02
jrattner1nalioth, or to get the my ATI working cause flxgears isnt helping01:02
thompajowi: yep! going to bbc radio 1 to jam out . see you and thanks01:02
Chinamancrimsun: i am so sorry for being a stupid n00b01:02
naliothjrattner1: did the VESA get you a gui?01:03
Jowic u thompa01:03
jrattner1nalioth, yes im in gnome right now01:03
tristanmikeInf3ctedfx, so use what nalioth sent you and no, you don't have to install anything else01:03
n00bsternalioth: what's the path that they are installled ?01:03
Chinamancrimsun: now it's downloading a lot of stuff o.001:03
naliothjrattner1: i've found ATI support to be not too good01:03
Inf3ctedfxcuz tristanmike  i'm using also gxine and mplayer01:03
cddesjaris it just cardmgr restart01:03
Chinamanomfg, it's doing a lot01:03
tristanmikeInf3ctedfx, I don't know, I only use Totem and VLC01:04
crimsunChinaman, it's ok.01:04
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Inf3ctedfxcool is working xDDD thx01:04
stpereis ubuntu-calendar still updated?01:04
iiiearswindows users linux community. ;)01:04
tristanmikenalioth, is there a difference b/w your link and mine, I ask because I had a friend install via my link, and if it's bad, well, you know.01:04
jrattner1nalioth, so what would you recomend that I stay with mesa? or do you think i should try flxgears?01:05
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Chinamannow the grep thing outputs: ii  linux-headers- 2.6.10-34.6    Linux kernel headers 2.6.10 on 38601:05
Carwashsorry if this noobish, but what is the command line to install a program in ubuntu01:05
Chinamandoes that look right now?01:05
jmgjrattner1: if you can, dont use mesa, its slow01:05
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darklogicis the sources.list on ubuntuguide.org broken?01:05
mr_robotocarwash: apt-get install <program>01:05
naliothtristanmike: marillat is to be avoided. the w32codecs are not dangerous to use, but most everything else there is01:05
crimsunChinaman, did that whole command complete?01:05
darklogica lot of the repos in it give me 404 errors01:05
Chinamanyes01:05
JowiCarwash: "sudo apt-get install programname"01:05
naliothdarklogic: ubuntuguide is poison01:05
naliothubotu: tell darklogic about sources01:06
crimsunChinaman, so now you should sudo modprobe snd-ca010601:06
tristanmikenalioth, ok, thank you, didn't understand, good to know01:06
mr_robotocarwash: apt-cache search <pattern> to see if you have the program in your cache01:06
jrattner1jmg, have you gotten your ATI running?01:06
Chinamangot it01:06
darklogicthanks guys01:06
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jrattner1ubotu ati01:06
ubotusomebody said ati was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx01:06
Chinamando i reboot or someting?01:06
tristanmike!tell tristanmike about sources01:06
crimsunChinaman, did you load snd-ca0106?01:06
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bob832hi everyone, i'm back  :-)01:06
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Chinamantype load snd-ca0106?01:06
Inf3ctedfxAny CD Burner.. works with GNOME???01:06
crimsunno, sudo modprobe snd-ca010601:07
iiiearsubuntuguide is indespensible the best and brightest aren't always in #ubuntu.- including a list of sources was a bad idea.01:07
JowiInf3ctedfx: graveman01:07
Chinamanyes, did that01:07
tristanmikesorry01:07
crimsunChinaman, now log out of and back into GNOME01:07
Inf3ctedfxJowi: that one use GUI?01:07
JowiInf3ctedfx: yep01:07
bob832question:  how diffcult is it to get a program (more specifically chestmaster 5000) to work in wine?01:07
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Inf3ctedfxthx Jowi01:07
butcherbirdInf3ctedfx: I just use gnomebaker01:07
naliothiiiears: are you on crack?01:07
Entrancedhello01:07
mr_robotochestmaster? is that like playboy bunny pix or something?01:07
Inf3ctedfxgnomebaker?01:07
Entrancedanyone here running breezy (up to date) ?01:08
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sktrdieI need to put some files on my phone with bluetooth, what do I use?01:08
bob832oops, my mistake - lol, chessmaster01:08
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iiiearslol - nah - had to sober up to cure my marriage addiction. - ubuntuguide is awesome.01:08
adrakoahi01:08
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naliothiiiears: please d00d read your ubotu love01:08
crimsunEntranced, I am.01:08
EntrancedWTF happened with boot-admin ?01:08
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protok0lhow do i install perl modules with apt?01:08
Chinamancrimsun: i'm back into gnome01:08
n00bsterok, ty, i found them :}01:09
mr_robotobob832: some programs just run in wine without any work at all. others require tweaking. no idea about chessmaster. have you tried it?01:09
crimsunEntranced, err what?01:09
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crimsunChinaman, does sound work?01:09
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butcherbirdEntranced: gone01:09
Entrancedcrimsun, there was an app (part of gnome I think) called boot-admin01:09
bob832no not yet, b/c i'm not sure what i have to do to try01:09
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dmlinuxHey guys01:10
KiwiKibisay, how do i ascertain whether KBUNTU includes the HPFS (eCS) file system?01:10
Entrancedbutcherbird, any reason ?01:10
tristanmikeEntranced, yup, gone, conflicted with Grub01:10
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Chinamancrimsun: no01:10
jrattner1naolith it says if i want to compile 3d applications to use fglrx-dev, should i just install that package or configure that package to run with X01:10
mr_robotobob832: try "wine <program> <arguments>"01:10
Mars__^Hi i have question. I installed Opera. How can I uninstall it now?01:10
iiiearsubuntuguide is concise, step by clearly explained step with the most common questions answered on a SINGLE page. no need for searching around.01:10
butcherbirdEntranced: I heard it conflicted with some stuff01:10
Chinamancrimsun: device manager still does not recognize01:10
Entrancedtristanmike, It was an ok app01:10
butcherbirdEntranced: not sure01:10
mr_robotobob832: "man" is your friend :)     "man wine"01:10
JowiMars__^: sudo apt-get remove opera01:10
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naliothjrattner1: i have no idea what you want to compile01:10
Carwashiiiears: link to ubuntu guide?01:10
tristanmikeiiiears, ubuntuguide is hardly clearly explained01:10
solidgroovehow stable is breezy and is it spammed with beta stuff?01:11
naliothubotu: tell Carwash about ubuntuguide01:11
crimsunEntranced, what did boot admin do?01:11
naliothiiiears: thank you very much01:11
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adrakoai have a problem with grub... i have installed another distribution in hda2, i cp the bzImage, initrd... in the /boot/ of the first distribution, is this all right?01:11
crimsunChinaman, cat /proc/asound/cards01:11
iiiearsCarwash - lol - are you trying to get me into trouble? - lol01:11
Entrancedit was an easy way to update grub menu.lst01:11
KiwiKibisay, how do i ascertain whether UBUNTU includes the HPFS (eCS) file system?01:11
nalioth!test01:11
ubotuCrashed.01:11
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Mars__^thanks01:11
naliothCarwash: ubuntuguide is bad news01:11
fredforfaenis there a ubuntu channel for off topic shit...chitchatting.....?01:11
Chinamancrimsun: no sound cards01:12
Mars__^Is it possible that my internet connection is slower because i installed Opera badly?01:12
crimsun#ubuntu-offtopic01:12
fredforfaenthanx crimsun01:12
Jowifredforfaen: #ubuntu-offtopic01:12
iiiearscrimsun - is right again. - grin01:12
ifrHi, doing ssh port forwarding and I'm having problems with listening to port 25; something seems to be on there and I need to find out what. error: channel_setup_fwd_listener: cannot listen to port: 2501:12
fredforfaenJowi :)01:12
crimsunChinaman, are you _positive_ it's a 24-bit, 7.1 sound blaster?01:12
Chinamanyes01:12
Entrancedcrimsun, I'm tripple booting...and after each kernel upgrade my menu.lst get fux0red, so I have to edit menu.lst each time01:12
Chinaman24-bit, 7.1 sound blaster audigy 2 value01:12
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jmgim going to hack the kernel anddisable p4 errata checking01:13
ifrcommand: sudo ssh -c blowfish -L 143:localhost:143 -L 25:localhost:25 -l user host01:13
Entrancedcrimsun, boot-admin was very nice (point/click almost)01:13
mr_robotogrep 25\/tcp /etc/services01:13
bob832to get wine, do i do the following  -  sudo apt-get install wine  ?  (new to apt-get)01:13
mr_robotoyou must have  mail server running01:13
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ifrThanks, mr_roboto, will check!01:13
shinuhow do i remove all *.abc files recursively in a directory?01:13
Jowibob832: yep. you might want to add "sudo" infront of that command.01:14
KiwiKibisay, how do i ascertain whether UBUNTU includes the HPFS (eCS) file system?01:14
Jowibob832: oh, you did. sorry01:14
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mr_robotorm -r "*\.abc"01:14
crimsunChinaman, use paste.ubuntulinux.nl for lspci -nv output01:14
Entrancedshinu,  rm -rf *.abc01:14
bob832ok thanks01:14
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shinumr_roboto Entranced thanks01:14
mr_robotoyou need the quotes, shinu01:14
ifrmr_roboto, a ps aux | grep smtp though, shows nothing. . .01:15
Chinamancrimsun: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/270201:15
Entrancedmr_roboto, for what ?01:15
Inf3ctedfxAnother Question, doesn anyone knows a good dock like Mac OSX for Gnome? beside Superkaramba?01:16
Chinamancrimsun: will you be here in 30 minutes? i need to go for dinner...01:16
mr_robotoentranced: oops, thinking of passing wildcard to "find"01:16
Entrancedhehe01:16
shinu:)01:16
PhilHHi, can anyone give me a hand getting by CD Burner to work with Ubuntu(Hoary)?01:16
Jowiifr: run a port scan on yourself (with gnome-nettool for example) :-)01:16
ifrJowi, thanks. . .01:16
shinui hope i dont do something wrong... its a 2.33gb folder...01:16
Trashcanor nmap01:16
Trashcan:D01:16
Trashcanman, a clean install of hoary01:16
ChinamanPhilH: try enabling overburn01:17
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Chinamanworked for me at least01:17
Jowiifr: use 127.0.0.101:17
PhilHto get cdrecord to work?01:17
Trashcanfucking vsFTPd, openSSH, postgreSQL (my fault), and SMTP running01:17
ifrJowi, thanks. Ran nmap and seee that 25 is open for smtp but again, the ps aux shows nothing running01:17
ifr:(01:17
butcherbirdTrashcan: sorry forgot I left those running =)01:17
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Mars__^there is problem cause when i write sudo apt-get remove opera, it writes that i dont kave packet called opera01:17
ChinamanPhilH: you just have to make sure you don't go over file size allowed by CD and it should work01:18
Trashcaneh butcher?01:18
butcherbirdTrashcan: jk heh nm'01:18
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Trashcanok :)01:18
Trashcani was gonna say... butcher = dev team or what?01:18
crimsunChinaman, sudo invoke-rc.d alsa force-unload01:18
PhilHChinaman: i can't even detect the thing, great tip!01:18
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PhilHAnyone else with a little more knowledge?01:19
crimsunChinaman|Dinner, you'll need to use the snd-emu10k1 driver instead of the snd-ca0106 driver. It was a different pci id after all.01:19
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ifrJowi, any other ideas?01:20
crimsunChinaman|Dinner, that means you'll need to remove /usr/src/modules/alsa-driver and redo step 2 of the alsa-source factoid, only this time you need to choose the emu10k1 driver not the ca0106.01:20
shinuEntranced: that command doesnt seem to work...01:21
mirakis it possible to shrink ext3 ?01:21
naliothmirak: yes01:21
KiwiKibisay, how do i ascertain whether UBUNTU includes the HPFS (eCS) file system?01:21
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Entrancedwhat is the error ?01:21
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miraknalioth: even mounted ?01:21
Jowiifr, any ideas of what can hog port 25?01:21
naliothmirak: no01:21
Entrancedshinu, do you get any error msg ?01:22
Pluk25 is smtp (mail)01:22
shinuEntranced: nothing, it just gives me the prompt but the files are still in the subdirs01:22
Trashcanrunning by default01:22
ifrJowi, only think I think of is smtp; thunderbird is set to look to localhost, I use port forwarding to map 2501:22
Entrancedahh01:22
Entrancedhold a sec01:22
JowiPluk: we know. ifr want to know which program that is using it :)01:22
Plukah ok sry :)01:22
ifrBUT smtp isn't showing up on ps aux01:22
Plukjust dropped in01:22
mr_robotosudo lsof -i tcp:2501:23
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Inf3ctedfxok sorry to bother too much... but anyone knows an editor like DreamWeaver?01:23
shinuJowi: cant you use netstat and grep the port?01:23
mr_robototo see what pid is listening on port 2501:23
Inf3ctedfxfor gnome?01:23
ifrCool... mr_roboto, thanks, doing now01:23
mr_robotothen ps -fp <pid> to see the program01:23
KiwiKibiwhat da dickens is a "Colony" release?01:23
PhilHInf3ctedfc: try NVU01:23
ifrWow/01:23
Trashcanthen kill -9 pid01:23
Trashcanor kill -SIGTERM pid01:23
Inf3ctedfxPhilH: NVU?01:23
Trashcaneither way01:23
Trashcanyou are one cool kid01:23
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Trashcannight nalioth01:23
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ifrmr_roboto: master  7570 root   12u  IPv4  11576       TCP localhost.localdomain:smtp (LISTEN)01:23
Jowishinu: nah, but mr_roboto had a nice idea01:23
ifrWow01:24
PhilHInf3ctedfc: http://www.nvu.com/01:24
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TrashcanSMTP running under root?01:24
mr_robotoifr: that's your problem program   :)01:24
PhilHdon't use the thing myself, nor any other WYSIWYG editors, but it seems ok01:24
nalioth_zZzInf3ctedfx: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingNvu01:24
NightLorderm, why is it when i try to change my colours for text in gaim, it crashes? I got breezy01:24
shinuJowi: would it give a similar result though?01:24
ifrmr_roboto, thanks so much. Now I wonder **WHY** smtp was running at all, and running like that - and why it didn't show up under ps aux?01:24
Inf3ctedfxthx nalioth_zZz there is another one beside that one?01:25
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mr_robotoifr: why not just use a different port?  you shouldn't be using one of the "well-known" prorts anyway01:25
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nalioth_zZzInf3ctedfx: quanta01:25
Jowiifr postfix probably01:25
n00bsterhow do i set permissions for FileSystem to my user account ?01:25
ifrJowi DOH!01:25
nalioth_zZzInf3ctedfx: screem maybe01:25
Jowi:D01:25
ifrThanks.01:25
mr_robotoifr: because the program you are running is not called "smtp"  that's just the service name01:25
tristanmiken00bster, what do you want to do?01:25
ifrYes, It all dawned clearly. Thanks both of you for the help which is much appreciated01:25
KiwiKibiwhat does the moniker "Colony" indicate?01:26
Inf3ctedfxthx nalioth_zZz  but the best one is NVU?01:26
PhilHinf3ctedfc: but they aren't really much like dreamweaver01:26
nalioth_zZzInf3ctedfx: the best one is the one you like the best01:26
PhilHoops01:26
Inf3ctedfxgood answer  but in ur opinion.. which one is more user friendly?01:26
nalioth_zZzInf3ctedfx: i dont use wysiwyg editors01:27
n00bsteri want to be able to write tothe  FileSystem ..01:27
n00bsterfore example  copy a files to the FileSystem01:27
NightLordno-one?01:27
tristanmiken00bster, use sudo01:27
PhilHInf3ctedfx: NVU is WYSIWYG, the others aren't really, therefore i'd go for bluefish01:27
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nalioth_zZzn00bster: you generally have no business putting things in the filesystem01:27
n00bsterbut i want to do this from GUI ..01:27
KiwiKibiwhat's a "Colony" release?01:27
NightLordalso, why does it say "Please install before using" when i try to run xvidtune?01:27
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nalioth_zZzKiwiKibi: a benchmark, nothing more01:28
Inf3ctedfxok PhilH  thx01:28
n00bsterok, i just installed Mplayer, & I want to add askin to "Skin" directory that is in user/share/Mplayer/skins Folder.01:28
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PhilHn00bster: then run sudo nautilus01:28
tristanmiken00bster, it's not recommended that you give the filesystem anything but read priviledge's other than read, unless it's your home dir. and then you already do have those permissions.01:28
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nalioth_zZzn00bster: add it to the .mplayer directory in YOUR home directory01:29
PhilHn00bster: only don't, because it's not a bright idea if you're new01:29
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tristanmiken00bster, and remember that the mplayer folder is "hidden" in your home folder01:29
KiwiKibiwhat would be the meaning of the absence of the label "Colony" and its attendant digit in a release?01:29
n00bsteroha, rghite !!! forgot about the Ctrl+H :}01:30
inc|freaky01:30
NightLorddoes anyone know of any software which will let me use msn messengers webcam features?01:30
none_-anyone know a site that has a bunch of C programming exercises?01:30
mr_roboton00bster: that's the "unix way" to put private configuration in the user's home dir, usually in a directory called ".<programname>"    that's a good thing to know01:30
KiwiKibimore directly: what does the label "Colony" DENOTATE?01:30
inc|freakyi will never get euro () support. it never shows on windows machines i probably have the wrong encoding.01:30
none_-wrong channel01:31
inc|freakydoes any1 know what i can do if i have to hit ^ twice to make one of it? ^^ <-- for this smiley i have to press the key 4 times that sucks01:31
Trashcannone_-: www.justfuckinggoogleit.com01:31
n00bsteremm.... thank you, good to know this...01:31
crimsunKiwiKibi, colonys are milestones on the roadmap for the final Breezy release.01:31
Trashcani keed i keed01:31
tristanmikeTrashcan, that's not nice01:31
PhilHInf3ctedfx: bluefish is a nice editor which helps you to code HTML, screem is similar, NVU's the only one that you're likely to like if you use WYSIWYG stuff01:31
Trashcani know :(01:31
nalioth_zZzKiwiKibi: means the same thing as "longhorn" or "memphis"01:31
tristanmikelol'01:31
none_-:'(01:31
none_-the01:31
none_-' is a tear01:31
Trashcan:'(01:32
iiiearsTrashcan - lol - this is #ubuntu. - be nice not a lot of seasoned linux users here.01:32
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KiwiKibi'01:32
n00bsteris there a way to con fig File Manager to always show hidden files on my home dir ?01:32
KiwiKibi=('01:32
butcherbirdnone_-: have you begun using C yet?01:33
KiwiKibi':)01:33
tristanmiken00bster, once it's enabled, it should remain untill you disable it again01:33
cafuego_n00bster: Yes.01:33
KiwiKibi:'01:33
iiiearsjust got an education in "Journaling File System" - it can  2 terabyte files now that is power.01:33
PhilHSo, could anyone help me sort out my CD burner?01:33
nalioth_zZzcafuego_: is ubotu ok?01:33
KiwiKibi:')01:33
n00bsteroh, i see... i'll tray this now.. ty.01:33
tristanmiken00bster, but it only works on each folder you tell it to show you, it's not global01:33
nalioth_zZzKiwiKibi: enough of the hieroglyphics01:33
none_-butcherbird, many times. i am looking for exercises because i am bored01:33
cafuego_n00bster: Prefernces -> File Manager -> [Views]  -> (*) Shows hidden and backup files01:33
butcherbirdnone_-: ah ok01:34
Jowigoodnight all01:34
Trashcannight01:34
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n00bsternop, it's reverted back to  hidden01:34
Inf3ctedfxhey question how can I create a symbolic link?  the command is:  ln -s /phat/for the file/  /usr/bin  ???01:34
iiiearsG'night Jowi.01:34
mr_robotolnf3ctedfx: it's kind of like "cp"    ln -s <file name> <link name>01:35
tristanmiken00bster, try System-->Preferences-->File Management, there is a box there for hidden files, see if that helps01:35
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n00bsternop, doing this from View allsow dident save it on "show hidden files"01:35
ccooken00bster: you can toggle it with Ctrl-H by default, I think. But that'll only change the setting for one window.01:36
borgistaA note to Breezy devs: The new kernel upgrade stopped random freezing, but Epiphany/Firefox both cause freezes now. Mozilla is fine.01:36
n00bstergot it !! it did the trick :} ty..01:36
KiwiKibiis Dapper Drake more advanced than Breezy Bitch (or whatever its name is)?01:36
n00bsterty, all..01:36
PhilHn00bster: if you know where you want to go you can always just hit Ctrl + L and start typing .directoryiwanttosee01:36
tristanmiken00bster, what did the trick?01:36
none_-KiwiKibi, not more advanced01:36
PhilHn00bster: nautilus should autocomplete the rest01:36
Entrancedshinu, you still there ?01:36
cafuego_KiwiKibi: Hoary Hedgehog is stable. ANything else you ought not be running if you're asking that particular question.01:36
KiwiKibimore what then?01:37
ccookeKiwiKibi: No. Dapper drake doesn't really exist yet.01:37
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none_-breezy is the new release01:37
none_-that is as advanced as it gets01:37
tristanmikewhich isn't "offical" yet01:37
nalioth_zZzKiwiKibi: but yes, dapper drake will be more advanced then breezy badger01:37
n00bsterwhoops, Ctrl+L locked my screen :)01:37
mkyb14still oninle?01:37
mkyb14nice01:37
cafuego_No, if you can't use google to look stuff up, you have no business running breezy.01:37
inc|freakyany1 recently got problems with breezy/universe/source/Sources.gz while apt-get updating saying the md5-sum doesnt match?01:37
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shinuEntranced: yup01:38
borgistaAnybody else getting freezes with Firefox in Breezy?01:38
FR500man01:38
Entrancedshinu, did you delete the files ?01:38
nalioth_zZzinc|freaky: shut your mouth!01:38
none_-inc|freaky, try the main site01:38
shinuEntranced: nope :)01:38
EntrancedI got the solution01:38
shinugreat01:38
inc|freakynalioth_zZz: sry didnt want to wake you up ^^01:38
FR500after apt-get upgrade, firefox won't start, any workarounds?01:38
n00bstersince i'm useing Ctrl+L to lock screen, is there a way, to change nautilus Ctrl+L shortcut, to somthing els ?01:38
iiiearslol01:38
none_-FR500, what did you upgrade from?01:38
nalioth_zZzinc|freaky: your md5 comment gave me nightmares01:38
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FR500none_-, what version?01:38
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Entrancedshinu, be careful though01:38
shinuFR500: you have backports on?01:39
inc|freakynalioth_zZz: sry :\ but why that?01:39
none_-don't use upgrade from breezy yet01:39
shinuEntranced: sure sure :P ill test it first :)01:39
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borgistaBreezy Badger goes faster than Gentoo on my box. Sweet.01:39
KiwiKibiwhich package has all the file systems (HFS, FAT32, JFS, HPFS, etc.)??01:39
inc|freakynone_-: y you sent me to the mane site?01:39
ryufreakcan anyone tell me how to detect my other hard drive?01:39
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Entrancedshinu,  execute this from the directory in which are all the files+subdirectories with files01:39
inc|freaky*main01:39
FR500shinu, yes01:39
Entrancedshinu, run this first WITHOUT "-delete" option01:40
NightLordis there anyway i can use my windows key for anything in ubuntu?01:40
shinuFR500: hoary right?01:40
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KiwiKibiI need to make sure HPFS IS INDEED INCLUDED in the release.  How do I ascertain such?01:40
Entrancedshinu, find ./ -type f -name '*.abc' -delete01:40
cafuego_KiwiKibi: The kernel, of course.01:40
FR500shinu, yes01:40
inc|freakynalioth_zZz: the error is Konnte http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/source/Sources.gz nicht holen  MD5-Summe stimmt nicht means the md5 sum doesnt match01:40
nalioth_zZzNightLord: try windows key combinations01:40
NightLordk01:40
none_-inc|freaky, i mean the main site in apt's sources.list01:40
ryufreak!mount01:40
ubotuhmm... mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives01:40
NightLordalso, why does gaim crash when i try to change font colours01:40
inthenowrecommend good ftp app?01:40
shinu!tell FR500 about firefox-fix01:40
cafuego_inc|freaky: Use a different mirror site, problem solved.01:40
mkyb14Network problem!  i didn't install with dhcp and am trying to set it up now.... how do i start this?01:40
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inthenowwhat ftp app is included in ubuntu01:40
Entranced!menu.lst01:40
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, Entranced01:40
inthenow?01:41
shinuFR500: wrong :P cant remember the command :/01:41
Entranced!grub01:41
ubotuhmm... grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting01:41
inc|freakycafuego: where can i find a list of mirrors?01:41
cafuego_inthenow: Places -> Connect to server -> FTP01:41
PhilHn00bster: if there's a way to enable dynamic keyboard shortcuts for GNOME, then yes, but i have no idea01:41
FR500shinu, ?01:41
shinuEntranced: alright01:41
cafuego_inc|freaky: XX.archive.ubuntu.com01:41
TokenBadanyone know a way to make sure have ac3 codec?01:42
shinuFR500: sorry, i thought i remembered the entry in ubotu that solved your problem but i dont :/01:42
ali4728Can any one help with mail server conf (postfix + courier-Imap) I want to know what are the paremeters for "Incoming mail server" and "Outgoing mail server" for the remote client ? Any commnets are appreciated..01:42
inc|freakycafuego: well, ill wait until they fix this problem01:42
cafuego_inc|freaky: Try 'nl' or 'at' for XX in your case.01:42
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FR500shinu, oh01:42
mr_roboto find ./ -type f -name "*.abc" -exec rm {} \;01:42
epphey i have no sound01:42
eppin kde i have sound but not in xfce01:42
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PhilHepp: what isn't producing sound?01:43
eppamarok01:43
eppor anysystem sounds01:43
n00bsteri see ..01:43
PhilHmaybe you need to start the soundsystem01:43
eppwhen i boot up to the login screen...01:43
inc|freakydoesnt have multiverse any security src packages?01:43
crimsunno.01:43
PhilHserver even01:43
shinumr_roboto: would that give the same result as what Entranced said?01:43
shinumr_roboto: actually... nvm01:43
eppwhen i startup it gives the booted up sound but when i login to xfce i get no more sound01:43
mr_robotoshinu: yes, if there is a "-delete" option to find.   not sure there is... but the -exec will definitely work01:44
shinuEntranced: -delete doesnt exist i think :)01:44
FR500shinu, lol i was starting firefox to google for it :p01:44
TokenBadanyone know a way to make sure have ac3 codec?01:44
Entrancedshinu,  it does01:44
crimsunepp, that's because we didn't script Xfce to start esd automatically.01:44
EntrancedI just ran it01:44
mr_robotodidn't see "-delete" in the man page01:44
mr_robotomight have overlooked it01:44
shinuEntranced: find: invalid predicate `-delete01:44
eppwhen i try to start it.. it gives me an error01:44
PhilHepp: can you configure amarok to use a different soundserver?01:44
mr_robotoshinu   just use "-exec rm {} \;"01:44
shinuFR500: and it didnt start right? :P01:44
shinumr_roboto: okie!01:44
Entrancedhttp://www.kalamazoolinux.org/tech/find.html01:45
borgistatokenbad: sudo lsmod | grep ac301:45
eppwhen i try to run esd it says Device or resource busy..01:45
mr_robotoshinu: the "{}" means do this on every file found  and you have to end with a semi-colon, escaped so the shell doesn't grab it01:45
TokenBadborgista, if it gives no responce?01:45
ryufreakhow do i get into my other hard drive/01:45
Entrancedshinu, mr_roboto I'm running Breezy and the command I pasted worked just fine here01:45
eppPhilH, the only options are Alsa and <no Engine>01:45
mkyb14anyone know how to setup the dhcp after installing without an internet connection01:45
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shinuEntranced: im on hoary and it doesnt work :)01:45
eppcrimsun, when i try to run esd it says Device or resource busy..01:45
mr_robotoentranced: must be an enhanced version of find :)01:45
crimsunepp, what are you trying to do?01:46
Entrancedmr_roboto, maybe :)01:46
eppim tryint to play my mp3s...01:46
jrattner1will the ATI Driver Installed work for ubuntu?01:46
mr_robotoi always just use "-exec" for that kind of stuff becuase it works everywhere01:46
crimsunepp, dpkg -l amarok\*|grep ^II01:46
FR500shinu, any ideas, it does run with sudo01:46
crimsunepp, err, grep ^ii01:46
ryufreakjrattner1 what video card do you have01:46
shinuFR500: basically, you got the stupid package from the backports... :)01:46
shinuFR500: i think :)01:46
jrattner1ryufreak,  ATI mobility radeon x600001:47
shinuFR500: i think you have to remove them and reinstall or something01:47
PhilHepp: and it's got ALSA selected?01:47
eppyep-01:47
TokenBadborgista, it didn't give a responce...so is there a way using apt-get to get the ac3 codec?01:47
eppcrimsun, ii  amarok         1.2.3-1ubuntu4 versatile and easy to use audio player for K01:47
eppii  amarok-arts    1.2.3-1ubuntu4 aRts engine for the amaroK audio player01:47
fredforfaenwhat repos do i have to add to get e17 WM ?01:47
n00bsteri have got to tell you all here something,...01:47
shinuFR500: pm me the result of: dpkg -l *firefox*01:47
n00bster my staying with ubuntu is completely a BIG CREDIT for all you folks here...01:47
B_166-ER-Xif i rm a file, where does it goes ?01:47
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eppmabey esd is interfering with alsa?01:47
borgistaTokenBad: maybe with the linux-restricted-modules package01:47
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KiwiKibiwhere is the listing of files systems modules included in a release?  I need to look at such listing.01:47
ryufreakjrattner1 you can try it, and if it works, but if not, this is how i got my x800xl to work01:48
n00bsterSo A BIG TY to all of you ...01:48
crimsunepp, you want to install amarok-gstreamer01:48
ryufreakhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=73422&postcount=401:48
TokenBadborgista, you lost me01:48
PhilHepp: can you start arts manually?01:48
ccookejrattner1: I'm using one of those now.01:48
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mkyb14anyone please?01:48
epphow?01:48
B_166-ER-Xif i rm a file, where does it goes ?01:48
ccookejrattner1: works fine.01:48
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borgistaSearch for that in Synaptics.01:48
jrattner1ccooke, are you using MESA? or fglrx01:48
crimsunepp, sudo aptitude install amarok-gstreamer01:48
KiwiKibiryufreak: you talking to me?01:48
n00bstercya all..01:48
nibbler00I'm after the .debs for openoffice 201:48
ccookejrattner1: firegl01:48
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ryufreakno, i'm talking to jrattner101:48
bastiwhat could be wrong if Idont get sound in VLC but in other apps such as gaim and Amarok ?01:48
jrattner1ccooke, howa re you using firegl?01:48
eppPhilH, how do i start alsa?01:48
shinubasti: it just gets deleted, doesnt go anywhere01:49
fredforfaenanyone knows how to install e17 via apt?01:49
ccookejrattner1: in what way how? I have the module loaded and my driver set to it.01:49
bastishinu,  uh??01:49
ryufreakjrattner1, if the ubuntu provided fglrx doesn't work, try this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=73422&postcount=401:49
eppcrimsun, i also want system sounds to work too...01:49
crimsunbasti, that means you need to install vlc-plugin-esd01:49
JDigitalepp: yyou could always ask in #alsa , heh01:49
crimsunepp, so install amarok-gstreamer01:49
shinubasti: oops :P wrong person :)01:49
ryufreakjrattner1, it worked for my x800xl pci-e01:49
crimsunJDigital, no, we'll just punt you back over here.01:49
eppcrimsun, i did...01:49
shinuB_166-ER-X: it just gets deleted, doesnt go anywhere01:49
crimsunepp, and did you select it?01:49
JDigitalhehe01:49
bastiThank you crimsun :)01:49
jrattner1ryufreak, alright im going to try that now01:50
B_166-ER-Xokay01:50
B_166-ER-Xthankx01:50
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shinuB_166-ER-X: its hard to recover it, its not like windows01:50
PhilHepp: you don't start alsa, not in the same way you do aRts or ESD anyway01:50
shinubasti: pardon me, its 1am here :P01:50
eppoh shit...01:50
ryufreakdoes anyone know how i can get into my 2nd hard drive?......01:50
ryufreak:(01:50
Carwashok, is there any other mp3 encoder besides k3b-mp3?01:50
PhilHepp: that sounds ominous01:50
B_166-ER-Xshinu, i was jsut wanting to be sure it was deleted so its ok01:50
ccookejrattner1: try the ubuntu method first.01:50
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CarwashI still can't play mp3 :(01:50
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ccookejrattner1: it'll be a lot easier, and it works for most people01:51
eppPhilH, sry its not alsa thats in there its Arts01:51
ryufreakcarwash, did you try xmms?01:51
Carwashno01:51
Signifer123whats wrong with audacity?01:51
Carwashhow do I do that?01:51
Signifer123and lame enc...01:51
MachineScrewcan any one tell me how to remove a package and all configs01:51
shinuB_166-ER-X: i see... and please dont repeat your question like that next time :)01:51
crimsunepp, the gstreamer engine is mislabeled. It often appears not to have a label in the engine selection.01:51
jrattner1ccooke, i tried the ubuntu method it did not wokr01:51
PhilHepp: and can you run it manually?01:51
borgistaTokenBad: any luck?01:51
mr_robotoshinu: just as an FYI, before I do something dangerous with -exec, I usually do "-exec ls {} \;" and just list the files to be operated on to make sure I'm hitting the right files before actually doing it :)01:51
jrattner1ccooke, your on an ATI mobility radeon X6000?01:51
relaxanyone knows here can i get alsa-tools and alsa-firmware to ubuntu ?01:51
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iiiears!ntfs01:51
ubotu[ntfs]  the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.01:51
Signifer123dpkg -r appname01:51
ryufreakcarwash, go into synaptics and search xmms01:52
Carwashok01:52
relaxi try to dkpg but have too mutch dependencies01:52
butcherbirdMachineScrew: assuming it was an ubuntu package, sudo apt-get remove packagename?01:52
crimsunrelax, we don't distribute them currently. We package alsa-tools in Debian, however.01:52
TokenBadborgista, not sure what you ment by that01:52
crimsunrelax, however, alsa-firmware you'll have to download from ALSA's Web page.01:52
MachineScrewMachineScrew: did that but they still remain01:52
ccookejrattner1: X60001:52
ericzi want to be able to like build programs from their source or whatever using ./configure... but it says no valid C compiler found in path or something, what do i need to do?01:52
ccookejrattner1: and yes.01:52
MachineScrewbutcherbird:  did that but the config files still remain01:52
crimsunericz, install build-essential01:52
ericzok01:53
shinumr_roboto: ok! thanks :)01:53
butcherbirdMachineScrew: you have to admire their will to live..01:53
Carwashryufreak: ok,  I found it! Now what?01:53
ccookejrattner1: what's your laptop?01:53
butcherbirdMachineScrew: what do you mean by config files just .conf?01:53
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ryufreakcarwash, install it01:53
iiiearsHow To Forge ISP-Server Setup - Ubuntu CD to ISP/Web Host in an afternoon. - amazing.01:53
ericzcrimsun: that's all i need? and it should work right01:53
crimsunericz, that's all you need for the _basic_ compiler.01:53
ryufreakcarwash, before you play anything on it, change the output plugin to esound01:53
borgistaTokenBad: did you find the linux-restriced-module package?01:54
MachineScrewbutcherbird: ok I am trying to remove every thing to do with ndiswrapper and start clean01:54
ericzok01:54
ryufreakcarwash, because if you don't it'll just freeze01:54
borgistaTokenBad: In Synaptic01:54
MachineScrewbutcherbird: is there a purge command or somthing01:54
Carwashryufreak: I see. How do I install it? Sorry if this TOTALLY NOOB, but the 'apply' button is greyed01:54
eppcrimsun, [GStreamer Error]  OSS Device "dev... already in use by another program"01:54
mkyb14anyone know when downloading ATI amd64 drivers if you choose the installer or "x-windows version"  that has below it XFree86 4.3?01:54
mkyb14which one01:54
Signifer123--purge :-P01:54
ryufreakcarwash, double click on it01:54
bastiHow come I cannt add VLC as default player for .avi ???01:55
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Plebeuzhello01:55
MachineScrewok so dpkg --purge ndiswrapper-utils01:55
odd-who wants to host an online radio show?01:55
crimsunepp, lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*01:55
Carwashryufreak: nothing happened01:55
Carwashok, I'm going to xmms's site and will download it form there01:55
ryufreakcarwash, right click on it and click mark for installation01:55
butcherbirdmachineScrew, aptitude has a purge command..01:55
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TokenBadborgista, I have one of those installed it seems01:55
ryufreakcarwash, it's much easier to do it via synaptics01:55
eppcrimsun, sry to no avail...01:55
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Plebeuzi am newb on debian(ubunto) and i use slackware, anyone knows where i config rc files(suck rc.inet1 etc..)?01:56
crimsunepp, huh?01:56
Carwashryufreak: nothing happens when I right click on it01:56
eppcrimsun, lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/ does nothin01:56
ryufreak!?01:56
uboturyufreak: No idea01:56
crimsunepp, pgrep esd01:56
Carwashryufreak: I know, weird..01:56
CarwashHmm01:56
Carwashhold a sec01:56
mr_robotolsof |grep /dev/snd01:56
ryufreakcarwash, is it already installed?01:56
TokenBadborgista, actually it seems I have 2 installed01:56
crimsunepp, what is System> Preferences> Multimedia Systems Selector> Default Audio Sink set to?01:56
ali4728I installed (postfix + courier-Imap) I want to know what are the paremeters for "Incoming mail server" and "Outgoing mail server" for the remote client ? Any commnets are appreciated..01:57
crimsunmr_roboto, just use lsof /dev/snd, no need to filter the output manually.01:57
mr_robotowell it gives diff results  s01:57
Carwashryufreak: I'm not sure -- don't think so. I messed with the repositories, will that afffect it or something01:57
mr_robotoyou DO need to filter on some versions of lsof, like mine01:57
Carwashryufreak: I followed the wiki ubuntu guide with the repository thing01:58
eppcrimsun, e is system prefs?01:58
ericzcrimsun: maybe you can help again, i installed build-essential or whatever and i tried compiling it, it got past the part it messed up on last time, this time i get configure: error: unable to find a curses library -- FATAL01:58
TokenBadborgista, seems I have 2.6.10.5-1 and 2.6.10-7 installed01:58
jrattner1ryufreak, I cant find the RPM on the site01:58
mr_robotousing lsof version 4.74 here01:58
ryufreakcarwash and jrattner1 hold on01:58
Plebeuzinit.d :p01:58
eppcrimsun,  erm, im in xfce where is sys prefs?01:58
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=== Carwash nod nod
PhilHmr_roboto: same result, different spacing01:58
CarlFKdoes edubuntu have a bit torrent client?01:58
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ericzanyone, while compiling source for "naim" i got the error configure: error: unable to find a curses library -- FATAL01:59
mr_robotoPhilH    not same result, doesn't work if you don't filter01:59
ericzwhat should i do?01:59
crimsunepp, Xfce doesn't have it.01:59
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mr_robotolsof /dev/snd gives nothing at all      lsof |grep /dev/snd shows what is using the device01:59
crimsunepp, execute gstreamer-properties in a Terminal01:59
Plebeuzwhere i put the scrips, and config and chose what programs will starts on boot?01:59
Plebeuzin ubuntu01:59
Plebeuz?01:59
eppcrimsun, well i can select what device... either esd or defaut02:00
crimsunmr_roboto, that's because you're using the wrong syntax: It's lsof /dev/snd/*02:00
mirakis it possible to remount / readonly ?02:00
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ryufreakjrattner1, x86-64?02:00
BlissexPlebeuz: look on the Debian site for the ''boot concept'' document.02:00
mr_robotocrimsun:   ahhh sorry!02:00
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PlebeuzBlissex, tkz02:00
iiiearsCarwash - LinuxQuestions.org is pretty nice.02:00
jrattner1ryufreak, its pentium 402:00
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CarlFKmirak im gona guess: umount / && mount -o ro /02:00
jrattner1ryufreak, is that 64?02:00
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CarlFKmirak if you chain the two togetter, it should work02:01
crimsunepp, in gstreamer-properties, what is the default audio sink set to?02:01
fredforfaen!e1702:01
ubotue17 is probably the next generation enlightenment http://www.enlightenment.org or http://www.rasterman.com, http://www.get-e.org or http://www.edevelop.org02:01
eppcrimsun, OSS02:01
PhilHcrimsun: works for DSP with the asterisk here, should it not?02:01
mirakCarlFK: it says it's occupied02:01
butcherbirdCarwash: if youre just looking for the right command "apropos whatever" is useful02:01
crimsunPhilH, dsp* != snd/*02:01
ryufreakjrattner1, https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9448/1m/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/fglrx_6_8_0-8.16.20-1.i386.rpm02:01
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CarlFKmirak - oh yeah.... nm02:01
PhilHcrimsun: without, rather02:01
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ryufreakjrattner1, or https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=30002:02
crimsunPhilH, that's because /dev/dsp is valid whereas /dev/snd isn't. /dev/snd/* is.02:02
fredforfaenanyone have any idea how i can install e17?02:02
ericzdo i need to install something extra, when running ./configure on "naim" i get the error configure: error: unable to find a curses library -- FATAL02:02
PhilHcrimsun: ah yes, sry02:02
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crimsunericz, what are you trying to compile?02:03
Plebeuzericz, instal the ncurses package ....02:03
Chinaman|Dinnercrimsun: i can't remove the folder02:03
ryufreakcarwash, are you still there?02:03
Mars__^I have one question. A am trying to change image of one of the directories, but when iam trying to do that, it shows info that i am not permitted to do that, What can i do?02:03
crimsunepp, you should be able to use amarok fine then.02:03
Chinaman|Dinnercrimsun: i get this message: Cannot move "/usr/src/modules/alsa-driver" to the trash because you do not have permissions to change it or its parent folder.02:03
crimsunChinaman|Dinner, in a Terminal02:03
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ryufreakanyone know how to get my other harddrives detected :(02:03
Trashcansudo02:03
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crimsunChinaman|Dinner, and make sure you are not currently in that directory02:03
Plebeuzsudo passwd root02:04
Trashcansudo rm -r /usr/src/modules/alsa-driver02:04
TokenBadborgista, seems I have 2.6.10.5-1 and 2.6.10-7 installed02:04
iiiearsnice tip "apropos ..."   so much to learn. ;)02:04
ChinamanTrashcan: thx02:04
Carwashryufreak: ok, I downloaded xmms from their website and unziped the file on my desktop. Do I instlal it via synaptic  or can I do it via command line in terminal?02:04
Plebeuzhey what is the default root password in ubunto?02:04
ryufreakcommand line i'm assuming02:05
Mars__^ryufreak, maybo try different booting02:05
crimsunCarwash, sudo aptitude install xmms02:05
CarwashI see02:05
crimsunCarwash, no need to compile it yourself02:05
Plebeuzhey what is the default root password in ubunto?02:05
crimsun!root02:05
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo02:05
Trashcanplebeuz: root is disabled02:05
iiiears!rootsudo02:05
Trashcansudo passwd root02:05
uboturootsudo is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo02:05
Trashcantype your use password02:05
Trashcanuser*02:05
Plebeuzno02:05
Trashcantype new root password02:05
Trashcanconfirm02:05
Plebeuzyou wrong02:05
Trashcanok.02:05
Plebeuzi have seted the root password02:05
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Plebeuzand i am logged now as root02:06
ryufreakmars__^ what do you mean by different booting?02:06
Plebeuzjust sudo passwd root02:06
Plebeuzthen set a root password02:06
Trashcanso why are you asking for a default password02:06
Plebeuzu can log as root02:06
eppbut it gives me the error at the bottom of amorok whenever i try to play a song that looks like [Gstreamer Error]  oss "dev... already in use by another program."02:06
eppcrimsun, but it gives me the error at the bottom of amorok whenever i try to play a song that looks like [Gstreamer Error]  oss "dev... already in use by another program."02:06
Trashcanroot is disabled by default02:06
Trashcanyou enabled it02:06
Trashcanso, you're wrong02:06
Trashcangood job02:06
PlebeuzTrashcan, cus i whant know the default password for root on instalation02:06
crimsunPlebeuz, there is none.02:06
Trashcanthere ISN'T one.02:06
iiiearsPleb - you can bypas the safer defaults and configure a root password if you like.02:06
Trashcanthere is no root by default02:06
crimsunthat the way d-i is configured for Ubuntu.02:07
Plebeuzcrimsun, just take a look at /etc/shadow and see root02:07
crimsunthat's^02:07
Plebeuzhave a password default02:07
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iiiearsthis is linux after all  - free to make the OS as personal as you like.02:07
Plebeuzbut i dont imagine what pass is02:07
Carwashcrimsun: when I type in  sudo aptitude install xmms, it says 'E: cannot get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock' and 'e: unable to lock the ad direct /var/lib/dpkg) is another process using it?02:07
Mars__^Intresting, i put cd in to drive, and clikck cd rom, but there is nothing in here, but it scould be. Any idea?02:08
crimsunPlebeuz, do you even understand what the syntax of /etc/shadow is?02:08
eppCarwash, close synaptic or anyother thing trying to apt get.02:08
CarwashHmm ok02:08
mr_robotoIf the password field con02:09
mr_roboto       tains some string that is not valid result of crypt(3), for instance ! or *, the user will not be able to use a  unix  password02:09
mr_roboto       to log in02:09
iiiearscrimsun - lol02:09
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Carwashyes yes yes!02:09
Carwashits done... hmm let me test it out if it works02:09
mr_robotoPlebeuz: default root password is '*' which cannot be used to log in02:09
relaxhow can i compile the alsa-tools with libasound 1.09 or i have to downgrade my libasound ?02:09
Plebeuzcrimsun, shadow is a shadow of a password who is encripted02:09
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crimsunrelax, just install libasound2-dev02:09
eppcrimsun, are u stumped by my problem?02:10
crimsunPlebeuz, please read shadow(5)02:10
mr_robotoPlebeuz: the /etc/shadow contains '*' for root, there is no useable password02:10
Mars__^Why ubuntu doesent recognise cd rom ?02:10
Plebeuzok02:10
crimsunepp, no, there are a lot of people to help. Be patient.02:10
ryufreak!w32codecs02:10
ubotuI heard w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy). 64-bit? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5439902:10
CarwashUh, this is embarassing, but how do I access xmms once I installed it?02:10
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ryufreakapplications->sounds and videos->xmms02:11
Plebeuzand where i put executables to init on boot in ubunto? and set what will begin or not on boot, and make bash scripts for boot?02:11
Chinamancrimsun: totem now recognizes my card02:11
fredforfaenanyone here knows of a way to install enlightenment17 by apt?02:11
Chinamanbut now, how do i get mp3 decoders?02:11
Carwashits not there02:11
EIGHTBALLCan i have my background as a terminal02:11
Chinamanwhere do i get mp3 decoders?02:12
Carwashis xmms installed? In the terminal it says "0 packages upgraded, 0 newly instal, 0 to remove, 0 not upgraded'02:13
Carwashand when I search for xmms in synaptic, there is nothin gin the package02:13
mr_robotoPlebeuz: it uses the system 5 style init scripts in /etc/rc<runlevel>.d and /etc/init.d02:13
EIGHTBALLsudo apt-get gstreamer0.8-mad02:13
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ryufreakcarwash, did you do sudo apt-get install xmms?02:13
EIGHTBALL^^ for mp3 codecs02:13
iiiearschinaman02:13
iiiears!restrictedformats02:14
ubotuI guess restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'02:14
Carwashno, I did sudo aptitude install xmms02:14
relaxcrissum --> tkx !!!02:14
ryufreaktry apt-get02:14
Carwashjust did, it says xmms package not avaiable02:14
eppCarwash, why not use amarok?02:14
Carwashsounds cool! epp02:15
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jeronim`is au.archive.ubuntu.com supposed to be in the uk?02:15
crimsunepp, try this: Manually start esd in a terminal, then in gstreamer-properties, select esd as the default audio sink.02:15
jeronim`because it is right now02:15
ryufreakcan anyone tell me how to get into my other hard drive :((((((((((02:15
miraka /boot is needed for LVM and GRUB ?02:15
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crimsunepp, then make sure amarok is set to use the gstreamer engine (remember what I mentioned earlier regarding it being un/mislabeled sometimes)02:15
eppcrimsun, i did that and it says device busy02:15
crimsunepp, what did you do?02:16
Dr_Willisryufreak,  other as in where? ya just mount the thing whever ya want normally02:16
Carwashok, I'm downloading amarok now :)02:16
eppits labled GStreamer... im on it...02:16
ryufreakdr_willis how do you mount it?02:16
Plebeuzwhere i config my network(i dont wnat to use DHC)02:17
PlebeuzDHCP02:17
Plebeuz*02:17
B_166-ER-Xi installed Freecraft, but i see no shortcut anywhere , should i just run it from the console ?02:17
eppcrimsun, ped esd in term and it says Device or resource busy02:17
Trashcanwhat is your device name?02:17
Dr_Willisryufreak,  i normally use the mount command and the shell. or edit fstab.. it all depends on the kind of drive you are trying to get to.02:17
iiiearsryufreak - does fdisk -l  show available partitions/disks? - if it does you might find winmac_fstab.sh the easiest script to mount all available partitions and edit fstab.02:17
ryufreakdr_willis, i have a seperate 120gb hard drive as storage (in fat32 format) that i want to get to02:17
eppcrimsun, i typed esd in term and it says Device or resource busy02:17
Dr_Willisryufreak,   you want this a permenet mount? or just for now?02:17
Trashcanplebeuz: what's your device name?02:17
Trashcaneth0 or eth1?02:17
Plebeuzwhere i find some documentation of debian init.d files?02:17
Dr_Willis!ntfs02:17
ryufreakiiiears fdisk -l does nothing02:17
Plebeuzeth002:17
ryufreakdr_willis what do you mean permanent mount?02:18
Plebeuzi hav maded a script for my slackware for eth002:18
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iiiearsubotu tell ryufreak about winmac_fstab02:18
Dr_Willisryufreak,  type "!ntfs" and go to the url the bot posts02:18
Trashcansudo ifconfig eth0 ip.ip.ip.ip SUBNET sub.sub.sub.sub GATEWAY gate.gate.gate.gate02:18
crimsunepp, lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*02:18
PlebeuzTrashcan, no02:18
PlebeuzTrashcan, for initialization02:18
PlebeuzTrashcan, on boot02:18
ryufreakdr_willis, the other hard drive format is in fat3202:18
Trashcanah02:18
Trashcandunno02:18
Dr_Willisryufreak,  so. :P it dont matter.. that url the bot has is for both.02:19
ryufreak!ntfs02:19
crimsunepp, are you using KDE or GNOME at the moment?02:19
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eppno xfce...02:19
Dr_Willisit pays to google for 'linux drive mount howto/tutorials' and learn how all tis works. :P02:19
mr_robotoPlebeuz: I googled "system v init scripts" and the very first link was for slackware help" and there are many more helpful links there.02:19
mr_robotokind of a large'ish topic02:19
crimsunepp, any reason you're using arts (which is essentially only relevant for KDE)?02:19
thoreauputicPlebeuz: interfaces (5)02:20
eppi dont know why i am...02:20
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crimsunepp, pkill artsd02:20
iiiearsDr_Willis, - it sure does. that script is an eyeopener - it shows how flexible linux  scripting is02:20
Carwashguys, do I have to do the 'AddingRepositories' guide in order to play mp3?02:20
crimsunCarwash, for universe, yes.02:21
Carwashwhat the heck is universe, lol02:21
Dr_Willisiiiears,  i wasent refering to the script. :P ive never used it - lol. I know enogh fundamentals to edit fstab myself.02:21
Dr_Willislol02:21
crimsun(well technically you could use totem-xine, which is in main)02:21
crimsun(so no, you don't _have_ to add universe for mp3 playback)02:21
Lordphynhey, uprgrading to breezy broke my ndiswrapper (broadcom) - any ideas? Thanks!02:21
eppcrimsun, i just installed ubuntu again... and i havent installed kde yet but sound works in gnome02:21
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Chinamanguys...i'm not getting any sound from my speakers02:22
crimsunepp, right. After you pkill arts, try amarok02:22
mr_robotoPlebeuz: looks like slackware uses bsd style instead of sys 5 style02:22
crimsunChinaman, does music play at all?02:22
Chinamanyes02:22
eppk02:22
Chinamanit plays02:22
Chinamanbut i'm not hearing anything02:22
crimsunChinaman, paste the output from amixer onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl02:22
Plebeuzmr_roboto, in slackware i have developed all my init scripts02:22
crimsunyou probably just need to unmute the Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack02:22
iiiearscrimsun - you are awesome.02:23
crimsuniiiears, eh?02:23
Plebeuzmr_roboto, and i am trying to understand the init script in ubunto02:23
iiiearsreally glad you are here. :)02:23
crimsunme, too.02:23
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Chinamancrimsun: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/270302:23
ryufreakdr_willis, when i googled that, i got something about mkdir /mnt/second_hdd or whatever, which didn't work out that good02:23
eppcrimsun, nope doesnt work...02:23
eppcan i install an alsa plugin for amarok02:23
crimsunepp, which engine is amarok configured to use?02:23
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mr_robotoPlebeuz: ubuntu uses sys 5 style     just google it and you can find out all about it. you use 'S' and 'K' scripts (links to scripts) to stop and start stuff for each run level02:23
eppright now its Gstreamer02:24
ryufreakdr_willis but that winmac-fstab worked02:24
ryufreakthx02:24
mr_robotoPlebeuz: the scripts themselves are in /etc/init.d02:24
iiiearsryu - lol02:24
Carwashwhat is 'universe'02:24
ryufreakiiiears thanks too :D02:24
eppcrimsun, i just typed esd and it worked for some reason02:24
crimsunChinaman, right. In a Terminal, type amixer sset 'Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack' on02:24
Plebeuzmr_roboto, yes i have readed about it, but now i am trying to find where the sistem have configured DHCP for my networ on boot02:24
Trashcanuniverse and multiverse = not maintained by ubuntu team02:25
Carwashok02:25
crimsunepp, ok, then change gstreamer-properties to use esdsink instead of osssink02:25
Chinamancrimsun: ok02:25
crimsunepp, then try to play music using amarok02:25
Chinamancrimsun: you are da bomb02:25
mr_robotoPlebeuz: can't you just edit /etc/network/interfaces and set the interface to static instead of dhcp?02:25
crimsunChinaman, now sudo alsactl store02:25
SlicerDicer-amarork rocks!02:25
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eppi did.. it doent work02:26
fredforfaenanyone here knows how to install e17 via apt?02:26
Chinamancrimsun: got it02:26
eppcrimson, i even used esdsink02:26
eppcrimsun, i even used esdsink02:26
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mr_robotoPlebeuz: "man interfaces" has a great example of exactly how to do it. then do "if-down && if-up"02:26
Plebeuzmr_roboto, tkz02:26
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Chinamanyou are da 133702:26
Plebeuzmr_roboto, if down and ifuo i understand02:26
crimsunChinaman, bu shei02:26
Plebeuzmr_roboto, yes is /etc/networking/interfaces the config file02:26
mr_robotoPlebeuz: the script you're looking for probably is running ifup02:26
Plebeuztkz02:27
Plebeuzy02:27
ryufreakiiiears do you know where winmac_fstab mounted the hard drives to?02:27
mr_robotooops, no dash... just ifdown && ifup (but don't sue me if i misremembered :)02:27
crimsunepp, ok, so esd is running, gstreamer-properties's sink is configured to use esdsink, and amarok is configured to use gstreamer as its engine?02:27
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janne_Newbiehi all!02:28
eppyep02:28
ryufreakiiiears, nevermind found it /media/02:28
eppwell...02:28
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janne_Newbiehow can force install deb packages...? i have some unresolved dependencies...?02:28
AngryParsleydpkg -i I think02:28
eppcrimsun, well in amorok in the engine selection i set engine to Gstreamer and in the Gstreamer properties in amorok i set ESD02:28
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janne_Newbiedpkg -i does only install.........02:29
Trashcanjanne: man dpkg?02:29
AngryParsleyoh, right02:29
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ryufreakjanne_newbie, did you try --force-overwrite -i02:30
iiiearsryufreak - i was knocked flat by this script  to change wma files to mp3 it is beautiful. :) check it out. http://blogs.linux.ie/xeer/2005/08/16/how-to-convert-from-wma-to-mp3/02:30
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crimsunepp, ok, and what's the output from lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/* ?02:31
crimsunepp, paste onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl02:31
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janne_Newbieu mean like: sudo dpkg --force-overwrite -i <debpackage>02:32
iiiearswinmac_fstab started my daily script addiction. - going to learn bash scripting if it kills me. - grin02:32
ryufreakjanne_newbie, i assume, i don't know it it'll work but you can try02:32
ryufreakjanne_newbie, thats how i force installed my video card drivers02:32
janne_Newbieok...02:32
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janne_Newbieill try...02:32
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flamis there a gnome application similar to kate?02:33
ryufreakiiiears you have any idea how to get w32codecs up and running?02:33
iiiearsno scripting available in the default version of windows vista. :?02:33
Chinamandoes anyone know of any good media players?02:33
ccookeiiiears: I believe they took it out, yeah02:33
Chinamani got vlc for my videos02:33
ccookeiiiears: if you want to learn scripting, read the bash manpage. It's laid out quite well.02:34
Chinamanbut anything like winamp for hoary?02:34
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ccookeChinaman: xmms?02:34
iiiearsryufreak, - it i install the codecs first and the apps seem to find them? - (yep i am a newb - lol)02:34
ryufreakchinaman xmms02:34
riadhello02:34
ryufreakiiiears, synaptics doesn't have the w32codecs anymore :(02:34
d33p_while trying to dist-upgrade from hoary to breezy I got this... Errors were encountered while processing:  /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.12-9-386_2.6.12-9.19_i386.deb        /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.12-9-686_2.6.12-9.19_i386.deb, how can I solve it?02:34
Chinamanhow do i make the soundcard output 100%?02:35
riadhow do I see windows XP file directory from UBUNTU?02:35
janne_Newbieit does try....but saying same errors....i think i just download more files and keep trying to solve problem that way....02:35
Chinamanriad: go to ubuntuguide.org and search for mounting ntfs partition02:35
janne_Newbie...and i use that command u gave me...02:35
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riadthanks02:35
iiiearsthey are on the net. sourceforge might be a good starting place.02:35
ryufreakjanne_newbie good luck.....depending on how much dependencies you need, that might take days02:35
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janne_Newbieyes i know.....i hope i only need one file.....never know....=)02:36
d33p_how do I solve a dependency problem found while dist-upgrading from hoary to breezy02:36
ryufreakhehe02:36
eppcrimsun, k postyed as epp02:36
vader1102iiiears, http://www.giannaros.org/tor/bt/ for w32 codecs on Breezy02:36
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Chinamanriad: http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs02:36
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ryufreakiiiears, does it matter if i'm on x86-64?02:37
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iiiearsnice link vader! :)02:37
vader1102yw02:37
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ccookefor((P=10**8,Q=P/100,X=320*Q/(`tput cols`-1),Y=210*Q/`tput lines`,y=-105*Q,v=\02:37
ccooke-220*Q,x=v;y<105*Q;x=v,y+=Y));do for((;x<P;a=b=i=k=c=0,x+=X));do for((;a*a+b*\02:37
ccookeb<2*P*P&&i++<99;a=((c=a)*a-b*b)/P+x,b=2*c*b/P+y));do :;done;(((j=(i<99?i%16:0\02:37
ccooke)+30)>37?k=1,j-=8:0));echo -ne "\E[$k;$j"mE;done;echo -e \\E;done # ccooke02:37
ccookegah!02:37
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ccookesorry. wrong window.02:37
ryufreakvader1102, any idea how to get them on an x86-64, hoary?02:37
vader1102ryufreak,  no idea02:38
riadthanks a lot02:38
crimsunepp, in gstreamer-properties, does the Test icon for audio sink work?02:38
ryufreak:(02:38
ryufreaklol02:38
relaxhow can i do to jack starts with gnome ?02:38
vader1102I only had them for 1386 or whatever it is called02:38
crimsunrelax, come again?02:38
eppyep02:38
ryufreaki38602:38
ryufreak!w32codecs02:39
ubotuw32codecs is, like, a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy). 64-bit? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5439902:39
crimsunepp, ok, in amarok's gstreamer engine configuration, can you choose which sink to use?02:39
relax?02:39
relaxi cant ?02:39
Plebeuzdebian is very different heheheh02:39
eppyep02:39
crimsunrelax, rephrase your question. I didn't understand what you're asking.02:39
vader1102ryufreak, read Ubutu's comment02:39
eppi have always picked esd02:39
relaxlook02:39
ryufreakyah, that's why i did !w32codecs :D02:40
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Plebeuzif i set a script on int.d with the flasg not executable he will boot anywhay?02:40
eppcrimsun, i have always picked esd02:40
mr_robotoPlebeuz: you mean the init scripts?02:40
ryufreak!xine-ui02:40
uboturyufreak: Are you smoking crack?02:40
crimsunepp, what other options are there?02:40
ryufreakyes..02:40
crimsunryufreak, you neglected "info"02:40
Plebeuzmr_roboto, y02:41
ryufreak!info xine-ui02:41
relaxi work with audio, and have to use qjackctl (jack), i want to use when gnome starts he start qjackctl and put like a icon in tray02:41
ubotuxine-ui: (the xine video player, user interface), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.99.3-1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1669 kB, Installed size: 3364 kB02:41
relaxlike in demudi02:41
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mr_robotoPlebeuz: why wouldn't it boot? just because one script failed to run? i suppose it depends on what that script did02:41
mattyJmy libstdc++ got deleted on acident, without it i cant open synaptic or firefox, can someone do me a favor and give me a link to the ubuntu package so i can reinstall it?02:41
ryufreakPackage xine-ui is not available, but is referred to by another package.02:41
ryufreakThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or02:42
ryufreakis only available from another source02:42
ryufreak,02:42
ryufreakwhat does that mean02:42
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Plebeuzmr_roboto, in slack i just create a script and put the o /etc/rc.d if a set he executable he starts on boot, if i set it not executable, he dont execute on init02:42
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sorush20hi guys02:42
Plebeuzmr_roboto, i dont tested the boot, i just trying to understand the debian boot02:42
crimsunrelax, System> Preferences> Sessions> Startup Programs02:42
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mr_robotoPlebeuz: you need to read how sys v init works.   you need the link in the run level dir (rc?.d)02:42
sorush20is it just me or does everyone want to have sex with the penguin02:43
Abdul_Mueidhey sorush2002:43
Abdul_Mueidhow are you?02:43
Plebeuzmr_roboto, something like update-rc.d  ?02:43
relaxheheh02:43
relaxtkx02:43
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eppalsasink, osssink, nassink, autoaudiosink, afsink, gconfaudiosink02:43
mr_robotoPlebeuz: when the system is booting, it goes UP through the run levels starting stuff with the 'S' links02:43
eppcrimsun,  alsasink, osssink, nassink, autoaudiosink, afsink, gconfaudiosink02:43
mr_robotowhen it goes downward , it runs the 'K' links to kill stuff02:44
crimsunepp, choose autoaudiosink02:44
mr_robotoin numerical order   (e.g. S1 runs before S2, etc)02:44
karmatoburnexcuse me is there anyway to recover/change my root pw w/out a live cd?02:44
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sorush20any one here knows how to sort out this problem02:44
crimsunkarmatoburn, so you did in fact set a root password?02:45
karmatoburnor can point > toward a howto02:45
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Plebeuzok they run rcS.d/ scripts then the rcrunlevel.d scripts?02:45
mr_robotoPlebeuz: you should just read up on it. it's a little more complicated than the bsd init but it's more flexible02:45
karmatoburnyeah i think so02:45
crimsun!root02:45
ubotuhmm... root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo02:45
crimsunsee that URL02:45
mkyb14what does /bin/sh: can't build access tty; job control turned off      ..... this after i updated the hory amd64 ..... whatsthis mean02:45
mattyJmy libstdc++ got deleted on acident, without it i cant open synaptic apt-get or firefox, can someone do me a favor and give me a link to the ubuntu package so i can reinstall it?02:45
karmatoburnoh noshit?02:45
karmatoburnoppps02:45
crimsunmattyJ, deleted on accident?02:45
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karmatoburncan i say that here02:45
mattyJcrimsun: yes.02:45
crimsunno one just deletes the standard C++ library by accident.02:45
crimsun;)02:46
mattyJi do!02:46
eppcrimsun, at the bottom of amarok it says Error Failed to initialize.. failed to find supported audio sink02:46
mr_robotoPlebeuz: yes... there is a README there that says as much02:46
karmatoburnthanks02:46
Plebeuzmr_roboto, i am reading they heheh02:46
crimsunepp, are you using Hoary or Breezy?02:46
mattyJcrimsun: no i have no way of getting the package, everythings needs it02:46
crimsunmattyJ, are you using current Breezy?02:46
mkyb14anyone02:46
epphoaruy02:46
eppcrimsun hoary02:46
vader1102mattyJ,  can you use the terminal?02:47
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ryufreak!info quicktime02:47
crimsunepp, ok, pkill esd and install amarok-xine02:47
vader1102sorry crimsun02:47
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mattyJcrimsun: yes, im on the computer right now, terminal works dpkg wroks, apt-get doesnt firefox doesnt02:47
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karmatoburndo most users leave it that way?02:47
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Plebeuzmr_roboto, i created a file test with echo TEST > /var/log/test inside02:48
crimsunepp, then choose the xine engine in amarok02:48
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jojomonkeyanyone having problems w/ the backports mirror, mirrormax.net ?02:48
ericzi am02:48
joduaAnyone know why I am loosing my wireless connection and have to restart everytime to reconnect?02:48
Plebeuzmr_roboto, the i cd /etc/rc.d and ln -s /etc/init.d/test test02:49
ericzjojomonkey, i commented out the mirromax backports mirror repositories, i kept getting 40402:49
Plebeuzthat should work?02:49
mr_robotoPlebeuz: if you want it to ALWAYS run on boot, link to it in /etc/rcS.d, give it something higher than S7502:49
mr_robotono, give it a number and the S to start, like S80test02:49
vader1102jodua, are you close to the wireless connection? like a strong or week signal02:49
mattyJcrimsun: do you know where the packages are located? is there a ftp or something with packages so i can download it, i really have no way of looking for myself nothing works02:49
Plebeuzops rc5.d02:49
Glycerinejodua, I have to ifdown/up once i start the wpasupplicant02:49
jojomonkeyericz: ok02:49
crimsunmattyJ, what cpu?02:49
karmatoburnbingo thanks guys02:50
mattyJp4, using 386 kernel though02:50
karmatoburnelite help02:50
karmatoburngotta jam02:50
crimsunmattyJ, dpkg -l gcc-4.0|grep ^II02:50
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crimsunmattyJ, sorry, that's ^ii02:50
ubuntuhi02:50
eppcrimsun, well there is no sound but the bar of the song palys the song in like 2 seconds02:50
ubuntui love this programme02:50
eppcrimsun, when before it wouldnt even move02:50
mattyJcrimsun: gcc-4.0        4.0.1-4ubuntu8 The GNU C compiler02:51
crimsunepp, is amarok the only program that can't play audio?02:51
mr_robotoPlebeuz: like ln -s /usr/local/bin/myscript /etc/rc.d/S80test02:51
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crimsunmattyJ, wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gcc-4.0/libstdc++6_4.0.1-4ubuntu8_i386.deb02:51
mr_robotoPlebeuz:  oops, /etc/rcS.d I meant02:51
ubuntuhi02:51
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joduavader1102 I do have a strong signal...my bf connects fine with gentoo.... Glycerine what do you mean by a ifdown/up once you start? no idea lol02:51
Plebeuzmr_roboto,  humm ok i am understanding02:51
ubuntu'where are you from02:51
crimsunmr_roboto, you'll also find it in /var/cache/apt/archives/02:51
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mr_robotoPlebeuz: the 'S' means Start and the number is the sequence the script run in02:51
epplemme check02:51
mattyJcrimsun: yay, everything works again :002:52
Plebeuzmr_roboto,  ok02:52
Glycerinejodua, ifconfig will tell you your current network info.  Including which adapter your wireless is, eth1, eth0 etc02:52
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joduayea i have wlan002:52
mr_roboto'K' means kill (runs the init.d script with -stop)02:52
Glycerinejodua, ifdown will bring down the interface, similarly to turning the radio off in windoze02:52
mr_robotoPlebeuz: also, make sure you coded it right (to accept -start, -stop)02:52
ryufreakaanyone know how to get the quicktime plugin to work with firefox?02:53
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Plebeuzmr_roboto,  ok02:53
mr_robotoPlebeuz: although I guess it will just run no matter what you pass it if you don't care :)02:53
Glycerinejodua, and you can figure out ifup ;)  so instead of just rebooting, you can try sudo ifdown wlan0 to bring it down and sudo ifup to bring it back up02:53
joduaglycerine ok...so once i do that what happens?02:53
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crimsunryufreak, might be easier to just use the vlc plugin02:53
Lordphynhey, can anyone help with ndiswrapper issues? I installed it manually and had it working just fine in hoard, but after upgrading to breezy, I've tried just about everything and can't get my wireless card back. Any help?02:53
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joduaok02:53
Glycerinejodua,  not so much a fix, as a workaround :)02:53
displaguewhn you are in a terminal and get the console beep - you also get the drum sound.  Is there a way to get rid of the beep without the drum?02:53
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ryufreakcrimsun, where would i get vlc, i searched it in synaptics, it's not there02:53
joduaso that should work then? cuz if i try to reconnect after it d/c me it always says "no working leases in persistant database -sleeping"02:53
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Glycerinedisplague, turn off terminal bell in the gnome-terminal prefs?02:54
crimsunryufreak, it's in the universe repository.02:54
eppcrimsun, installing xmms now02:54
crimsunryufreak, you want 'mozilla-plugin-vlc'02:54
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joduaglycerine thanks alot...hopefully that will work02:55
Glycerinejodua, never got that, if i had to guess, i'd say that was a lost dhcp lease issue but i dunno.  Only way to find out is give it a shot :)02:55
Lordphynryufreak, you may also want to check out the MediaPlayerConnectivity plugin for mozilla; you can switch viewers easily with it02:55
joduak thanks again02:55
iiiearscrimsun - "Francis Giannaros" .org?   Very nice of him do you know his IRC name?02:55
Glycerinenp02:56
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crimsuniiiears, no02:56
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displagueGlycerine: that disables both of them.. I also tried set bell-style none > ~/.inputrc... that disabled both also02:56
ryufreakcrimsun so how do i install this package?02:56
psusianyone know how to tell mkinitramfs to use the modules for the new version of the kernel you just built instead of the one you are currently running?02:56
eppcrimsun, xmms plays fine...02:57
crimsunryufreak, you enable the universe repository, then install that package02:57
ryufreakcrimsun how do i do that02:57
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crimsun!repos02:57
ubotuit has been said that repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96902:57
Glycerinedisplague, so you need that as a trigger, but need to stop it from hitting the pc speaker...02:57
crimsunryufreak, search the wiki for addingrepositoryhowto02:57
crimsunryufreak, or addingrepositorieshowto02:57
Glycerinedisplague, dunno... search on how to disable the pc speaker?  bout all i can think of02:57
iiiearsWhere can i find the authors md5sum for this?    sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb02:58
ssdd65has anyone gotten a integrated eth adapter working, if so how?02:58
Glycerinebut i've never played with any of that, i hate the beep/drum sound and turn it all off :)02:58
crimsunepp, is XMMS using oss or esd?02:59
yoinkwhat is the site that you can paste stuff on and then get a link to it?02:59
iiiears< willing to help host the torrents - just don't want to help with malware.02:59
yoinklike for large code segments?02:59
ericzhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/02:59
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shiviI just installed ubuntu and updated/upgraded everything02:59
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shividvd won't work02:59
Glycerinedisplague, tried unloading pcspkr module?03:00
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Glycerineshivi, playing or reading data?03:01
eppcrimsun, oss03:02
Trashcanwho03:02
Trashcana03:02
yoinksynaptic doesnt like my sources.list, but its a copy from the ubuntuguide...any ideas?03:02
Chinamancrimsun: can i get XMMS to use ALSA?03:02
crimsunepp, so you killed esd prior to starting XMMS?03:02
crimsunChinaman, just select the ALSA output plugin in Preferences03:03
KiwiKibiIs Breezy Bollocks--i can never remember the second word--out already?  Which is the stable version for the Enterprise edition?03:03
eppyep03:03
Chinamani chose it but then it says it doesn't work03:03
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karmatoburnnext question, why is i can write or drag and drop fonts03:03
glickexcuse me this is a general unix question03:03
ssdd65has anyone gotten a integrated eth adapter working, if so how?03:03
crimsunKiwiKibi, Breezy _Badger_ is out 13 October. The enterprise edition is the same.03:03
karmatoburn/usr/share/fonts/truetype/03:03
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karmatoburnit says i need pemission03:04
Chinamanssdd65: should work on its own...can you tell us which one it is?03:04
KiwiKibiyou mean there's no Enterprise edition for the Hoary Hore?03:04
crimsunepp, so none of the engines in amarok work?03:04
Glycerinessdd65, my generic nf2 ones work np, ditto on the dell 600m laptop03:04
crimsunKiwiKibi, there's no difference is the software.03:04
ssdd65its a sis 19003:04
glickwhenever i commit something via CVS it changes the ownership and group of the file so that the other people in the group can not access it anymore03:04
glickwhy id it doing that03:04
Chinamanssdd65: that sounds old, how old is that?03:04
ssdd65thanks....03:05
KiwiKibiwhy is one called Enterprise edition then?03:05
Chinamanhmm03:05
Chinamanwait03:05
mr_robotoglick: that's not a general unix question, that's a CVS question :)   there are a couple of ways to solve that03:05
Chinamangigabit ethernet right?03:05
crimsunKiwiKibi, people love hearing Enterprise edition.03:05
eppcrimsun, nope...03:05
crimsunwarm fuzzy feelings and such03:05
mr_robotoglick: make that repository group writeable and put all users of it in that group or...03:05
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eppmabey cuz its an kde app kde has to be installed03:05
crimsunepp, no, I ran amarok without having the entirety of KDE installed.03:06
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mr_robotoglick: in the passwd file for CVS, make all users become a user id specific to that repository and make it writeable only by that user id03:06
Chinamanssdd65: lemme find you something on linux forums, hold up03:06
crimsunso it's possible.03:06
KiwiKibi*coughthat'sstupidcough*03:06
karmatoburnif root is disable why would it ask me for03:06
karmatoburnit03:06
glickwell we did the first one03:06
glickbut many of us belong to several groups03:06
crimsunepp, another thing you might want to try is using amarok 1.3.2 from the kubuntu.org repo.03:06
karmatoburn1st time with ubuntu03:06
crimsunepp, see the link on kubuntu.org03:06
karmatoburnsorry03:06
eppis it newer?03:07
yoinkcan someone post their working sources.list to pastebin.com?03:07
crimsunepp, yes03:07
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crimsun!tell yoink about repos03:07
eppoh for sure then03:07
mr_robotoglick: make sure your umask doesn't turn off the group write bit03:08
ssdd65Chinaman: ok...03:08
eppcrimsun, wehre is the repo?03:08
glickwhere is my umask?03:08
karmatoburni could really use some with write my fonts03:08
yoinkcrimsun, thanks, ill see if that explains it03:08
eppim on kubuntu.com03:08
Chinamanssdd65: seems that a lot of people are having probs with that03:08
Chinaman...03:09
Chinamaninteresting03:09
mr_robotousually it gets set in your .profile (or .bash_profile or whatever init script is used by the shell you're using)03:09
cycomHey all: Just figured I'd pass a little tidbit of knowledge on.  My gpsd killing ipw2200 was a result of some funky acpi stuff, which, if I turned off, would screw up my battery guage and cpu throttling.  If I set pci=routeirq then my sound wouldn't work, but my gps would.  My final solution was pass pci=noacpi acpi=noirq and everything is very happy.03:09
cycomincluding me.03:09
ssdd65yea thought id ask b4 taking all the time to trouble shoot it...03:09
ryufreakcrimsun you still there?03:09
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Chinamanssdd65: tried this yet: http://www.sis.com/download/download_step1.php03:10
crimsunryufreak, somewhat, I'm about to head out.03:10
ssdd65lets c...03:10
epp !tell epp about repos03:10
mr_robotoglick: the best thing to do is to create a fake user that can't be logged into, then make the users of your repository become that user for the purposes of using CVS on that repository03:10
ryufreaklol, nevermind then03:10
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Chinamanssdd65: i found something over there on linux03:11
karmatoburnis there a ubunta faq?03:11
rob^!faq03:11
ubotumethinks faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/03:11
Chinamanssdd65: the name is sis190191_linux.tar.gz03:11
mkyb14i have ntsf drives along with my linux install... how do i access them so i can play my music??03:11
Plebeuzwhats the diference beetween debian and ubunto?03:11
ssdd65Chinaman: it loaded a blank page....03:11
Chinaman-.-03:11
glickmy umask is 002203:12
Chinamanssdd65: http://www.sis.com/download/03:12
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mirakI tried to do03:12
mirakgrub-install --root-directory=/mnt/120/ /dev/hdd03:12
mr_robotoglick: that turns off the write bit for group03:12
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Chinamantry that and then select network driver, linux, etc03:12
mirakand it says : /dev/hdd does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.03:12
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epp!tell epp about repos03:12
mr_robotoglick: 0002 would leave it on03:12
ChinamanPlebeuz: i'd like to have that answered myself03:12
PlebeuzChinaman, hehehe03:12
Glycerineanyone gotten a proper 1680x1050 resolution out of breezy with fglrx driver?03:13
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PlebeuzChinaman, sis drivers works automatic in the ubunto03:13
ssdd65?03:13
docleshow do i enable nvidia drive into breezy ?03:13
ryufreak!w32codecs03:13
ubotusomebody said w32codecs was a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy). 64-bit? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5439903:13
Chinamanit should but ssdd65 is getting probs03:13
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ssdd65leme reboot and try it....03:14
yoinkcrimsun, i copied the example sources.list and uncommented the backports and extras...it gave me this error...03:14
yoinkcrimsun, http://pastebin.com/38016403:14
vader1102Plebeuz, Chinaman Ubuntu Rox and Debian doesn't Ubunutu suupports is there ALL of the time03:14
Glycerinedid some googling and there's a few problems with sis chipsets03:14
mr_robotoPlebeuz: from what I've read, ubuntu started with debian and changed it enough that all packages are no longer portable between them, although most do seem to be.03:14
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ssdd65thanks for all the help....03:14
Hunnermeu ubuntu quando vai inicia tela grafica fica tudo preto ..... minha placa de video eh geforce fx520003:14
Hunneralguem pode me ajudar03:14
Chinamanyoink: i get that too03:14
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karmatoburnsomeone has to know how to help me fiXor my fonts03:15
Plebeuzhmm03:15
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crimsunyoink, did you apt-get update ?03:15
Plebeuzhey dont have a modprobe.conf to config the drivers?03:15
karmatoburnhmmm03:15
karmatoburncan i use the root account03:15
Chinamancrimsun: i did apt-get update and nothing happened03:15
Plebeuzi think /etc/modprobe.d03:15
mr_robotoglick: just as an aside, if you're just beginning to learn CVS, you might want to go with Subversion instead03:15
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karmatoburnjuz no password?03:15
Chinamani still get those kind of messages03:15
yoinkcrimsun, i opened synaptic actually03:15
crimsunPlebeuz, do not touch /etc/modprobe.conf03:15
crimsunPlebeuz, put stuff inside /etc/modprobe.d/03:15
Plebeuznoo03:16
Plebeuzyess03:16
glickmr_roboto, im using cvs with a group thing, they set it up03:16
karmatoburnok thanks03:16
maxmouseIm having some problems getting enemy territory running with a radeon 9600, fglrxinfo has all ATI info, and fgl_glxgears runs, however whenever i try to run enemy territory it says its using the Mesa GL renderer which i guess the game doesnt like, how do i fix this?03:16
mr_robotoglick: ahh, ok.03:16
yoinkcrimsun, but apt-get update doesnt work either...it can't connect to the unofficial repos i think03:16
crimsunyoink, probably a known issue then. I don't use them.03:16
maxmouseive tried going through the config a couple of times, changing things, but that doesnt help03:16
glickhow come my vim backspace over ssh does not work correctly? it inserts funny chars into the text, however backspace on the commandline works fine03:17
Plebeuzthere is a thing very good on slackware, is a rc.modules who have a list os varius hardware suported, and u just need to uncoment a line with a driver then ./rc.modules and the hardware is working perfectly03:17
mr_robotoglick: wrong terminal type on the host you're logging into?  when you get there, try "stty erase <backspace>" to fix it03:17
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crimsunPlebeuz, there's udev+hotplug03:18
Chinamancan someone help me with java sdk?03:18
yoinkcan anyone here connect to the unofficial repos?03:18
eppi can03:18
Chinamani've been trying all day and i still don't know how to compile yet03:18
Plebeuzcrimsun, my mouse isnt working in console mode03:18
Chinamanepp: can you please help moi?03:18
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crimsunPlebeuz, we don't install or enable gpm.03:18
ryufreak!ati03:18
Plebeuzcrimsun, usb microsoft03:18
ubotusomebody said ati was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx03:18
glickstill does it damn it03:19
maxmouseryufreak, if that was for me, thanks dood03:19
durt!mexicans03:19
ubotudurt: Syntax error in line 103:19
eppcrimsun, ok so i added all the repos i could find and still no amorok 1.3...03:19
mr_robotoglick: you going through pserver or using a local filesystem?03:19
mkyb14anyone know how to mount ntfs drives?03:19
mr_robotoglick: what CVSROOT do you use?03:20
glickmr_roboto, using the local filesystem03:20
epp!tell mkyb14 about ntfs03:20
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Carwashwhat is a 'Universe and Multiverse repositories'03:20
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karmatoburnanyone feel like helping with a font problem?03:21
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Grevanyone using Breezy with nvidia here?03:21
durtyes grev03:21
Chinamanepp: where do i start if i want j2sdk?03:21
joetheoddHey, how do I watch a DVD?03:21
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Plebeuzxmms rox03:21
eppChinaman have u looked in repos?03:21
mr_robotoglick: I think that once the files are in CVS, it will keep using the same permissions as when they were first added. You will probably have to chmod the repository itself to fix teh permissions, after which they should be ok. CVS is a PITA that way (with permission)03:21
joetheoddDVDs work in XMMS Plebeuz?03:21
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Plebeuzjoetheodd, xmms is for play mp303:22
Chinamanepp: i can install j2sdk 1.5 but how do i get jedit or an IDE working?03:22
eppcrimsun, what repo has the newst amarok03:22
Grevdurt: i'm having no luck finding the nvidia.o module just nv.o  nvidia-glx is installed03:22
mr_robotoglick: here is a good online book about CVS. I recommend you have a look    http://cvsbook.red-bean.com/cvsbook.html03:22
Chinamanand how would i compile in terminal?03:22
Plebeuzjoetheodd, use Mplayer to play dvd03:22
crimsunepp, you might try asking in #kubuntu03:23
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joetheoddChinaman: javac <file>03:23
durtgrev: so you cant: "sudo modprobe nvidia"?03:23
glickmr_roboto, oh yeh i was looking through that, thanks03:23
eppChinaman, why java anyways?03:23
mr_robotoglick: they have a FAQ part of that book and one question is "CVS keeps changing file permissions; why does it do that?"  read that :)03:23
Chinamanbecause i need it for class03:23
eppChinaman, same here!03:23
crimsunChinaman, just download Eclipse from its Web site03:24
GrevFATAL: Module nvidia not found.03:24
mr_robotoglick: oh! nearly forgot!  you probably turned "watch on" so that you have to use "cvs edit"03:24
mkyb14i don't understand taht winmac_fstab file03:24
mkyb14it's in perl or someting03:24
mkyb14and no directions03:24
glickcvs edit?03:24
eppGrev: on my other comp i have found that u need to download the drivers from nvidia .com03:24
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mr_robotoglick: is that so?    try just doing "cvs edit <myfile>" on the read-only file in your working copy. should make it writeable03:24
Plebeuzskype for linux rox03:25
heatxsinkis there any way of making the little icon of that guy with a beard change to my login photo when I come back from the screensaver?03:25
Grevepp: I have that changes before the final03:25
mr_robotoglick: it marks the file on the server as being edited by you so that other users can run "cvs editors <file>" and see who is editing it (that's also recursive if you just give a directory name)03:25
durtgrev: try "sudo insmod nvida.ko"03:25
eppGrev:hu?03:25
glickhmm03:25
mr_robotoglick: and it also makes the file writeable by you03:25
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glickyea that wold bother me seeing a file change as im editing it03:26
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Carwashwhen I change the repository of hoary hedgehog, it says 'you need to reload the package list from the servers for your changes to take effect' but the problem is the linux box isn't connected to the net. So is horay hedgehog repository still enable even without net connection?03:26
Chinamanomg wtf bbq thx epp03:26
Chinamani'm such a n00bster03:26
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alec_mmm03:26
b0efmy friend just downloaded the ubuntu live cd and he has troubles when issuing the su command; he has no password.03:26
Chinamanbut how would i get Jedit to work?03:26
mkyb14epp that file didn't help03:26
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mkyb14just loads a perl file03:26
durtb0ef, whats wrong with the sudo command?03:26
mr_robotoglick: that behavior gets turned on by doing "cvs watch on"03:26
grabbies200hello, i want to add marillat repositories but apt-get tells me that they have no signature, how can i tell apt-get update to ignore signatures?03:27
glickoh03:27
mr_robotoglick: type "cvs --help watch" and you'll see what i'm talking about03:27
Chinamanepp: which IDE do you use?03:27
durtchinaman, scite is easy and simple03:27
mr_robotoglick: just try doing "cvs edit <file>" and see if it becomes writeable. if so, you're using that03:27
eppChinaman, IDE?03:28
mr_robotoglick: and "cvs unedit <file>" tells server you're no longer editing (also reverts changes and makes it read-only again)03:28
b0efdurt: it's troublesome having to write that all the time03:28
glicki see03:28
glickthanks mr_roboto03:28
durtb0ef: "sudo -s" then03:28
mr_robotoglick: i use CVS every day... i just kind of assumed you knew about edit :)03:28
Chinamanepp: integrated development environment03:29
Chinamandurt: lemme go see03:29
eppi edit on windows...03:29
eppi use jcreator03:29
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karmatoburnok how can i write to my font dir. ?03:30
karmatoburnthis is kinda of important03:31
joetheoddWhere can I get mplayer?03:31
joetheodd!tell joetheodd about mplayer03:31
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MadpilotPPCkarmatoburn, you mean to your /.font directory?03:31
MadpilotPPC!+fonts03:31
ubotuI heard fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto03:31
karmatoburni guess03:31
durtjoetheodd, vlc is good for dvds03:32
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MadpilotPPCkarmatoburn, see ubotu just above ^^^03:32
karmatoburnright right03:32
Chinamandurt: are there tabs in scite?03:32
durtyes chinaman03:32
grabbies200joetheodd: you can get mplayer from the marillate repositories03:32
Chinamanhmm03:32
Chinamani don't see them03:32
durtchinaman, you have to edit the use options file03:33
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nibbler00if any one here is using a shared printer on an xp pro box from ubuntu can I please see a dump of your /etc/cups/printers.conf03:33
Chinamanum...is it supposed to be empty?03:33
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Chinamandurt: how do i use tabs?03:34
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KiwiKibiis launchpad.net kosher?03:35
KiwiKibi"Security Error: you tried to connect to shipit.ubuntu.com.  However, the certificate belongs to launchpad.net.  It is possible though unlikely that someone may be trying to intercept your communication."  . . . what gives?03:35
durtchinaman let me see...03:35
MadpilotPPCKiwiKibi, it's another part of the Ubuntu/Canonical system - you've probably already noticed that some of the certificates are messed up elsewhere too...03:36
KiwiKibino, i haven't noticed that03:36
durtchinaman, add "tabbar.visible=1" to the user options file and save and restart scite03:37
DavidLeeRothi am buying a new CPU.  I wanna know what is better: An amd 3700+ with 1MB L2 cache or an AMD 3800+ with 512 L2 cache?03:37
durtthere are lots of different ways to configure it so check out the documentation03:37
bluefoxicyDavidLeeRoth:  what cores?03:38
b0efdurt: mk, that works03:39
Chinamandurt: it's not working03:39
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durtchinaman, you arent including the quotes are you?03:39
Chinamani didn't include quotes03:39
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Plebeuzmy mic is working perfectly03:40
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Chinamandurt?03:42
durtchinaman: add "buffers=10" too03:42
Chinamanbefore or after?03:42
durtdoesnt matter i dont think03:42
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Chinamandurt: i thank you greatly03:43
durtdoes it work?03:43
ChinamanYEP03:43
Chinamancrimsun and durt: you guys pwn03:43
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Plebeuzhey i wank to link /root/Desktop/skype-1.2/skype to i just write sype and execute skype, where i have to put the link?03:44
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charlieHI03:44
blaghcould someone please help me set up my wireless network card?  ubuntu doesn't seem to see it03:44
charlieeveryone03:44
Plebeuzi tried to put on /bin and /usr/bin03:44
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durtblagh, you might need to use ndiswrapper03:45
mirakis there lvm support in the initrd of ubuntu ?03:45
blaghis that already loaded, or do i need to install it?03:46
Plebeuzalguem ae do Brasil?03:46
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durtblagh: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu03:46
grabbies200hello, i want to add marillat repositories but apt-get tells me that they have no signature, how can i tell apt-get update to ignore signatures?03:47
iiiearscharlie - check out the how to for ubuntu it is amazing with a computer and an ubuntu cd you can setup a very sophisticated server  step by step how to http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2005-09-26-008-26-OS-HL-SV03:47
tristanmikegrabbies200, why do you want the marillat repos?03:48
tristanmikegrabbies200, it's not recommended to use them03:48
grabbies200because id like to get the codecs and install mplayer without compile from source03:49
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tristanmikegrabbies200, http://giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/ here is the w32codec files, and a simple "sudo dpkg -i <name>" will install it for you03:50
DavidLeeRothi am buying a new CPU.  I wanna know what is better: An amd 3700+ with 1MB L2 cache or an AMD 3800+ with 512 L2 cache?03:50
grabbies200is it also fr 64bit03:50
KyralWhich one overclocks better03:50
DavidLeeRoththey are both awesome03:51
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Plebeuz1Mb cache is better03:51
Kyralthe 1MB is better03:51
grabbies200i am actually looking libavcodec03:51
Plebeuz1Mb cache very very better03:51
DavidLeeRothok!03:51
Kyraloverclock like hell!03:51
DavidLeeRoththank you all03:51
DavidLeeRothsaved me 50 bucks!03:51
Plebeuzhehehe03:52
Plebeuzcool03:52
Kyrala virtuous endeavor indeed!03:52
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Plebeuzindeed heheheh03:52
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tristanmikegrabbies200, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5439903:52
eppwhats a mp3 player thats like itunes besides amarok03:53
iiiearslol - linux and itunes? really?03:53
grabbies200tristanmike: thanks i go folow the post03:53
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eppwell the layout...03:53
tristanmikegrabbies200, np03:54
durtrhythmbox03:54
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Plebeuzepp xmms03:54
durteven though xmms is the best03:54
KyralBeep!03:54
eppxmms looks like winamp not itunes03:54
eppyou cant have a library in xmms03:54
KyralTis called a playlist my friend!03:54
iiiearsjuk is a nice library tool03:54
eppbut it doesnt sort it by artist/album03:55
crispynixepp: what's wrong with amarok?03:55
linuxbombdoes anyone know of a mplayerplug-in package with the controls compiled in and does anyone else have problems with mplayerplug-in crashing when hitting the back arrow03:55
eppmy amorok ownt play audio...03:55
crispynixepp: rhythmbox sorts by artist/album, I believe -- but it's not like itunes03:55
crispynixepp: try a different engine?03:55
eppyep03:55
eppfor 3 hours i tried03:55
eppbut whatever03:55
epprythm sounds fine03:55
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crispynixepp: you tried gstreamer, arts, and xine and none of them worked? o_O03:56
eppyep03:56
crispynixweird03:56
MadpilotPPCepp, what file format are you trying to play?03:56
eppmp303:56
MadpilotPPCepp, do you have the mp3 codecs installed?03:57
MadpilotPPC!+mp303:57
ubotuwell, mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support03:57
eppyep audio plays on xmms03:57
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iiiearsdoes the bitorrent app included with ubuntu work to keep sharing files after you have a comepleted download?03:57
eppits a sucky ass client...03:58
iiiearsmp123 or ffmpeg are just two of a dozen available codecs03:58
durtxmms is not "sucky ass"03:59
iiiearsI was hoping to host a couple of files  java  and w32codecs03:59
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eppdurt, no im talking about the ubuntu bittorrent client...04:00
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tritiumepp, try nicer descriptive language, please04:01
ConfuzzledHey all04:01
iiiearsepp - it says "Activity Finished" on the comepleted downloads. - has it stopped sharing?04:01
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yannicky'a quelqu'un poru m'aider ?04:01
MadpilotPPC!fr04:02
ubotumethinks fr is Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais04:02
durtepp: oops :|04:02
epphehe04:02
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tristanmikeMadpilotPPC, that doesn't look like french04:03
TokenBadis there a newsreader for ubuntu that supports .nzb files?04:03
iiiearsyou have to admire the courage to try another OS if english isn't your first language. It has to be challenging.04:04
crispynixTokenBad: apt-cache search nzb04:04
SteveMyersI see that as a bad joke04:04
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TokenBadcrispynix, it didn't show a result04:05
iiiearsNZBGet ???04:05
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SteveMyersTokenBad, needing assistance?04:05
TokenBadis there a newsreader for ubuntu that supports .nzb files?04:05
benhsome ubuntu X.org person around ?04:05
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SteveMyerslet me check04:06
iiiearshttp://linux.iq.usp.br/debian/pool/main/n/nzb/04:06
crispynixTokenBad: apparently not, but there are other apps which can handle .nzb files.  In breezy there are four results, none of them newsreaders tho.04:06
tritiumbenh, just ask your question.  Hopefully someone can help04:06
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iiiearsdidn't know that newsgroups were still around. - ancient - lol04:07
crispynixUsenet is still around, but it's mostly used for pr0n and spam -.-04:07
wickedpuppyand warez04:07
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MadpilotPPCThere are still real non-warez, non-pr0n groups on Usenet, actually04:08
iiiearsit was always had wares got my first copy of DOS from a newsgroup. but it also had some really good technology news then.04:08
benhwell04:08
benhI wonder if they hacked X to add the iMac G5 modeline in the default list04:09
benh(1440x900)04:09
benhit's not in X.org CVS upstream, I have to add an explicit modeline04:09
DaBluei think microsoft uses usenet to help devs communicate04:09
tritiumbenh, you have breezy installed on an iMac G5?04:09
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benhbut debian's 6.8.2 seems to find it (and that panel doesn't do DDC)04:09
SteveMyersTokenBad: try Pan04:09
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durtbenh, wait - do you already have the modeline?04:10
benhtritium: hoary actualy :) I'm about to upgrade it to breezy, but in the meantime, I'm tracking down a bug with nvidiafb which makes it break on the iMac04:10
benhdurt: yes, I know what the modeline is, that isn't a problem04:10
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tritiumbenh, wow, I could not get hoary to install on my iMac (kernel panic issues)04:10
SteveMyersTokenBad: Here are some screenshits and updated information about Pan: http://pan.rebelbase.com/screenshots/04:10
benhdurt: I just wonder what makes hoary X be happy and not CVS04:10
SteveMyerserr04:10
SteveMyersscreenshot04:10
benhtritium: I used a home built 64 bits kernel and stucked ubuntu initrd with it :)04:11
benhtritium: I haven't tried breezy prerelease CD yet04:11
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benhtritium: I just finished thermal control for the machine so it's fairly useable now :)04:11
tritiumbenh, oh, okay.  Good for you, dude :)04:11
benhwhat happens is that X " nv" drivers finds from the registers that the panel is 1440x90004:12
benhand then goes try to find a modeline for that in X own default table04:12
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benhit can with hoary and can't with X.org CVS04:12
benhso I was wondering if ubuntu or maybe debian was hacking the built-in modeline table04:12
iiiearsbenh - Stop it you are scaring me. - lol - been eyeing 64 bit machines but spending hours/days/weeks configuring it is a huge fear.04:12
benhsince there is no explicit modeline in my xorg.conf04:12
tritiumNot sure, benh.  daniels would konw04:12
tritiumknow04:13
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benh(adding one makes CVS work of course, but that's impractical, auto-detect is much better)04:13
benhyah, but I can't find him lately (daniels)04:13
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benhiiiears: just using a proper kernel and ubuntu installer "just worked"04:13
planetcallgoodmorning04:13
benhiiiears: breezy should even ship with a 64 bits kernel for G5s afaik, though I haven't tried it on the imac04:14
tritiumgood evening04:14
SteveMyersG'Evening04:14
iiiearsbenh - Sounds hopeful :)04:14
benhanyway, buying one of the current G5s is pointless, Apple should upgrade them significantly real soon04:14
planetcallits morning here :P04:14
SteveMyershehe04:14
benhfor the last time at least before they go x8604:14
TokenBadSteveKerr, seems that pan don't support nzb....or at least find no mention of it on the website04:14
planetcalli have a question about Dualboot04:14
Pablo_Co.O04:14
planetcallubuntu says Error14   .......... Cylinder value exceeds ........... something in bios04:14
TokenBadoops04:15
mirakhow to install grub on a secondary hard drive ?04:15
planetcallWhen i try to boot in Windows200304:15
TokenBadSteveMyers, seems that pan don't support nzb....or at least find no mention of it on the website04:15
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planetcallany help ?04:15
SteveMyersNo worries, give me a moment04:15
tritiumplanetcall, perhaps you need to enable LBA in your bios04:15
planetcallwhere is that ? I got original Intel865GVHZ04:16
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SteveMyersTokenBad: http://www.linuxlinks.com/Software/Internet/News/04:16
bob2benh: does sound work on the current crop of g5 imacs?04:17
benhbob2: nope04:17
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benhbob2: on my todolist04:17
zonichola04:17
benhbob2: it's a different codec chip04:17
bob2benh: ah04:17
Pablo_Csomeone gave me a link earlier when I couldnt find a the module-assistant.... it was a bunch of repositories to add..... I am trying to get the madwifi drivers working04:17
benhbob2: I have the specs tho04:17
bob2benh: oh, yay apple04:17
zonicalgien habla spaol04:17
mirakhow to install grub on a secondary hard drive ?04:17
Pablo_Ccan I please have a link to the repositories to add04:17
benhbob2: well, they change the sound hw in +/- subtle ways on pretty much every motherboard revision04:17
tritiumzonic, #ubuntu-es04:17
bob2Pablo_C: ubuntu includes the madwifi drivers, prebuilt04:17
benhbob2: which is why sound is one of the weak points of linux on mac, keep breaking04:18
Pablo_Chmm04:18
zonicthanks04:18
mirakI want to boot next time on my secondatry hard drive that I will put primary. how to do that ?04:18
bob2benh: ahhh04:18
benhbob2: I need to rewrite the driver in a more "modular" way so we can more easily add codec drivers04:18
Pablo_Cthe card as soon as I enable it... it disables... I am using kubuntu04:18
bob2benh: does OS X also need continual updates then?04:18
benhbob2: and so it can deal with multiple codecs (digital + analog on the same bus)04:18
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benhbob2: didn't have time yet... I could use help from more hackers tho =P04:18
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benhbob2: yes, apple ships modified OS X with pretty much every new model04:19
benhbob2: though they include the updates with the next release04:19
benhbob2: same used to be with OS 9... if a machine shipped with, let's say, 9.1, it wouldn't necessarily work (or not everything would work) with a stock 9.104:19
ksmurfis there a better way than samba to setup a home network?04:19
benhbob2: but only with the "modified" 9.1 that comes with it ... However, 9.1.1 or whatever >9.1 would work04:19
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bob2benh: hah, hard to test drivers for hardware I don't have ;)04:19
ksmurfsamba is not cooperating04:19
bob2benh: ahhh, I see04:20
bob2ksmurf: samba isn't about home networks, it's about sharing files with windows machines04:20
benhbob2: heh04:20
benhbob2: what is needed is first some background work on the driver04:20
bob2benh: can you pretend g5 imac work is ibm work by claiming it's nearly a power4? ;)04:21
ksmurfbob 2 .... i have 4 machines here .... all are linux.  what should I use to transfer files between them?04:21
benhbob2: defining a simple infrastructure to split the platform core (that puts all the bits & pieces together for a given machine), the codec modules, the bus driver & DMA engine, ...04:21
benhbob2: pretty much defining structs and moving existing code in new structure04:21
bob2ksmurf: NFS is another option, assuming yo utrust the network04:21
benhbob2: that can be done with any Apple HW04:21
benhbob2: from then, writing the codec modules for the other machines and the platform bits is easy04:21
ksmurfI trust the network.  they are all at home here04:21
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benhbob2: there are some pitfalls though due to the way apple crapped out some stuff, like the GPIO control, but it's not _too_ bad04:22
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benhbob2: heh, I already do a lot of work on these on IBM time :)04:22
mirakI have a problem installing GRUB04:22
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benhbob2: it's more a matter of not impairing more urgent IBM work which I do have right now, though the thermal control was done partly here04:22
mirak$ grub-install seems to just stall04:22
bob2ksmurf: install nfs-kernel-server wherever you want to share files from, then add lines to /etc/exports to define what to share04:22
benhbob2: after all, the iMac G5 I use is IBM's :)04:23
bob2benh: hah, cool04:23
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bob2mirak: why are you installing it manually?04:23
bob2benh: are sound devices in modern apples on the pci bus?04:23
mirakbob2: because I am setting up a second hard drive with linux04:23
bushk[A] nak1n, nice name.  r0fl.04:23
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benhbob2: not  exactly04:24
bob2mirak: doesn't grub-install want an argument? isn't it easier to edit menu.lst and use update-grub?04:24
benhbob2: apple has a big IO chip on the PCI bus (they always had) that contains all sorts of stuffs04:24
benhbob2: some of these appear as individual PCI devices though (like the USB controllers), but a bunch of stuff is all in the same "combo" PCI device04:24
benhbob2: you can "see" the details abotu what's in there from the OF device-tree though04:24
carrarroUbuntu newb here, can't get my c compiler at the terminal to locate the < stdio.h > file. Help, please.04:25
benhbob2: it contains, among others, a pair of i2s bus controllers (a sound bus, in a way similar to ac97)04:25
benhbob2: and i2c controller04:25
mirakbob2: update-brug will not write into the MBR04:25
TiMiDo!info emacs04:25
benhbob2: that's how codec chips are typically attached04:25
TiMiDo!info xemacs04:25
TiMiDo!info xemac04:25
TiMiDobla04:25
bob2carrarro: install build-essential04:26
bob2mirak: even after you edit the config file correctly?04:26
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bob2benh: ahhhh04:26
tritiumbenh, I'd like to know how things go for you when you try breezy on your iMac, whenever that may be04:26
carrarroI think it's already istalled, but I'll take a look and come back.04:26
ksmurfbob 2 K done...... how do I start it04:26
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Jalba:shifty:04:27
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JalbaBah.. what am i doing here :( i dont have ubuntu04:27
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bob2ksmurf: sudo invoke-rc.d nfs-kernel-server restart04:27
liquidten2Me neither... <_<04:27
mirakbob2: yes it stalls04:27
bob2mirak: nothing interesting in "dmesg"04:27
sambagirldoes ubuntu have all this?04:28
sambagirlgcc >= 2.9504:28
sambagirl       autoconf >= 2.5204:28
sambagirl       automake >= 1.404:28
sambagirl       libtool >= 1.4.204:28
sambagirl       gettext >= 0.11.504:28
sambagirl       pkgconfig >= 0.8.004:28
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tritiumsambagirl, please don't paste!04:28
durtapt-get that stuff sambagirl04:28
sambagirlok04:28
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benhtritium: i'll try to remember popping up here, I could try now but I left the CD at home =P04:28
sambagirlahh04:28
CarlFKsambagirl - hold on!04:28
benhtritium: anyway, I just dist-upgraded hoary to breezy and so far the machine is still alive04:28
tritiumbenh, cool, I'll keep an eye out for you :)04:29
mirakbob2:  Buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 004:29
sambagirli am anting to install jamin04:29
CarlFKsambagirl - auto stuff needs the right versions, not just the most current (they aren't too backwards compatable)04:29
mirakbob2: I don't have a floppy04:29
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sambagirlahh04:29
sambagirlok04:29
sambagirlthanks04:29
CarlFKsambagirl - keep holding...04:29
sambagirlanyone know of gnumpg3 inet radio streaming software?04:29
sambagirlhaha04:29
MadpilotPPCsambagirl, there's a version of jamin in Ubuntu's repositories, you can just install it w/ Synaptic...04:29
sambagirlWOW04:29
MadpilotPPC!info jamin04:30
ubotujamin: (Audio mastering from a mixed down multitrack source with JACK), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 0.9.0-6 (hoary), Packaged size: 552 kB, Installed size: 1100 kB04:30
CarlFKsearch around on http://packages.ubuntu.com/ to figure out what package/version you need.. or do what MadpilotPPC says04:30
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sambagirlwhere are the sapositories?04:30
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atripathiI found LBA is turned on04:30
MadpilotPPC!repos04:30
ubotuI guess repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96904:30
tritiumsambagirl, nice attempt at a joke04:31
CarlFKsambagirl I have run icecast - it works.  not sure what gnumpg3 is04:31
sambagirlhaha04:31
CarlFKlol04:31
sambagirlwhat is your ip carlfx04:31
sambagirl??04:31
atripathiwhen I try to boot in Windows ..... the cursor keeps blinking and sysem freezes04:31
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Jason-Bournewhere's the party at?04:31
tritiumPurdue stadium04:31
CarlFKsambagirl - "have run" not "running" (i think...)04:31
Jason-Bournepurdue stadium got it!04:32
CarlFKhmm, might be up... no clue really04:32
atripathi??04:32
sambagirlokie doke04:32
CarlFKsambagirl - if you hold some more, I'll get it up04:32
sambagirlcool04:32
sambagirli'll wait04:32
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SeabookI just realized... Why did Ubuntu's version number start at 4.10??04:32
durtyou'll "get it up" heh04:32
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atripathiany help over dualbooting ?04:33
CarlFKyeah yeah...04:33
tritiumSeabook, October, 200404:33
ksmurf4th year 10th month04:33
MadpilotPPCSeabook, year and month of release04:33
Seabookah04:33
Seabookmakes sense then.04:33
sambagirlwhat is seabrook?04:33
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Seabooksambagirl: there's no 'r' in my nick. :)04:34
sambagirlAHHH04:34
ksmurfdo I need an nfs client to connect to an nfs network?04:34
sambagirli thought was ubuntu update04:34
atripathi# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS04:34
atripathi# on /dev/hdb104:34
atripathititle           Windows NT/2000/XP (loader)04:34
atripathiroot            (hd1,0)04:34
atripathisavedefault04:34
atripathimakeactive04:34
atripathichainloader     +104:34
b0efmy friend just booted up the live cd and he cannot mount ntfs read/write mode; is there a restriction in ubunto for this?04:34
b0efs/ubunto/ubuntu/04:34
CarlFKb0ef - native linux ntfs isn't readwrite cuz write is iffy04:34
atripathiit is no working.. The cursor keeps blinking04:35
SeabookOh, btw, has anybody successfully installed Ubuntu 5.04 on a Toshiba Satellite A70?04:35
drklogic_ksmurf, you need nfs-common installed then you can just mount the nfs share as if it were local04:35
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atripathidrk   do u have any idea?04:35
CarlFKb0ef, look around for Captive NTFS - don'tthink it is on the livecd04:35
ksmurfdrklogic I don't follow?04:35
ksmurf.../mount ......... ?04:35
b0efCarlFK: I'm sure I've seen ntfs read/write mode listed as stable somewhere?04:36
drklogic_ksmurf, what is it you're trying to do? browse files over nfs?04:36
durtseabook, i have breezy on a satellite 5105-s501 - i dont knoe how similar they are04:36
ksmurfdrk .... yes04:36
drklogic_ksmurf, apt-get install nfs-common04:36
TokenBadubuntu 5.10 is going to be released when again?04:36
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tristanmikeTokenBad, Oct 1304:36
ksmurfI have it04:36
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atripathiwhat is the command to see the disk structure ?04:37
drklogic_ksmurf, then "mount host:/directory"04:37
sambagirlcarl your ready, no?04:37
sambagirlwho asked me to wait?04:37
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tritiumhis ready?04:37
CarlFKsambagirl - no, the feed box was off, and then I had unplugged the network cable, but I want this all up, so imalmost there...04:37
sambagirlhaha ok you keep cranking up Model T while i turn key on ferrari :D04:38
_jasonhi guys, how can I get sound working in flash for firefox04:38
Seabookdurt: probably not very similar, simply by the fact that the numbering series is not even the same.04:38
atripathiDoes anybody know if Ubuntu duals with Windows2003 ???04:38
tritiumyes, atripathi04:38
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sambagirlhehe 2003, is 2005 :)04:39
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tritium!tell atripathi about dualboot04:39
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dikadikawhat do people use around here for playing DVD's? i'm having some problems with totem04:39
ksmurfdrklogic..... the thing won't mount.... do I have to add it to fstab?04:40
bob2dikadika: mplayer or xine04:40
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durtor vlc04:40
_jasonno one can help me to get sound working flash?04:40
kurtbecquestion from a ubuntu newbie...  When breezy final comes out what is the procedure to go from hoary to breezy?04:41
dikadikak thanks04:41
durtsudo apt-get dist-upgrade04:41
kurtbecdurt: do you have to manually update the sources.list?04:41
sambagirlhow acn you identify breezy has updated your system/ is there breezy splash screen or something?04:42
durtkurtbec oh yeah - yes pretty much just change all the "hoary"s to "breezy"s04:42
none_-sambagirl, the first X screen is different04:42
bob2sambagirl: er, presumably you saw what the upgrade did?04:42
bob2kurtbec: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes04:42
kurtbecbob2: cool I will check that out04:43
bob2kurtbec: yes, you of course have to change it, doing major upgrades of people's machines would be a terrible idea04:43
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sambagirli dont see breezy, sneezy, weezy, grumpy, lumpy, balmy or slurpy. but i did see snow white :D04:43
carrarrobob2: it seems like it was a syntax error I was making. But thanks for the help.04:43
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sambagirlno seriously i saw no difference.04:43
kurtbecthats what I figured but I just installed hoary on Friday and this is my first time with debian.  Been using linux for years just never debian.04:43
bob2kurtbec: ubuntu is not debian04:44
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nomasteryodakurtbec, so you are using a debian fork04:44
nomasteryodaway forked04:44
nomasteryodabut very good04:45
cavwhat exactly is a repository?04:45
MadpilotPPCcav, a giant collection of software and stuff, basically...04:45
cavDoes every distro have one?04:45
bob2cav: no04:46
kurtbecnomasteryoda: I mispoke.  I'm using ubuntu.  Just being doing a lot of reading in the debian documentation lately so i have debian in my head.04:46
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bob2cav: in ubuntu, a repository is a large set of .debs with some index files that apt can use04:46
nomasteryodak04:46
Plebeuzcav is a server who have collections of packages for ur sistem(i meaning repository of servers for apt-get programs like)04:46
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cavSo the package manager uses the repositories to get all the software?04:47
bob2yes04:47
Plebeuzyes04:47
kurtbecanyone know where this a newer version of gaim for hoary?04:47
cavhmm04:48
Plebeuzgaim suc amsn rulez04:48
kurtbecnot if you need meanwhile support.04:48
BacalaI'm a newbie, could someone help me with an install? I have a live/install dvd that won't boot properly. It tries to load but my machine keeps rebooting. any ideas?04:48
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PlebeuzBacala, some linux have a kernel panic and reboot the machine whith some kinds of hardware like scsi hardware04:49
kurtbecamsn is alright if you use amsn, but its just too narrow compared to gaim that supports just about every protocol out there.04:49
Plebeuzamsn is more clean04:49
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bob2Bacala: are you sure the CD is fine?04:50
Plebeuzamsn is for msn04:50
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kurtbecclean is great but doesn't do me much good if it doesn't do anything besides msn.04:50
BacalaPlebeuz it looks to me like a hardware issue. yes04:50
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Plebeuzyeah or the dvd is damaged04:50
PlebeuzBacala, then u must set the properly modbrope04:50
Bacaladvd works in my kids machine04:50
PlebeuzBacala, when boot04:50
kurtbeckind of like ogg is a superior format but finding hardware that supports it makes it almost not worth it.04:51
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BacalaPlebeuz modbrope???04:51
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Bacalamobo...04:52
PlebeuzBacala, try to find in the messages on boot, what is wrong. then search at google the modprobe for the hardware, the u must boot like something linux modprobe VIA86x04:52
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Plebeuzu see the boot screen? (thet who tells u to press enter for linux etc..)04:53
Bacalayes04:53
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BacalaI hit enter..04:53
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Bacalathen I see loading moduel04:54
Plebeuzthe he starts to initializing the kernel, u see a kernel panic and reboot?04:54
Plebeuzok04:54
Plebeuzthen?04:54
Bacalano04:54
Bacalajust reboots04:54
Plebeuztry write linux text04:54
Plebeuzthen enter04:55
Bacalaback to splash screen04:55
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sambagirlstill waiting :)04:55
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Bacalatype linux text at prompt?04:55
Plebeuzyes04:55
CarlFKsambagirl - its up! http://audio.foxshare.net:800004:55
Bacalaok04:55
Bacalathanks04:55
bob2Bacala: have you checked the CD yet?04:56
Bacalayes04:56
dabarIs doing IRC as your sudoer as dangerous as running as root, if you identify with your sudoer's password?04:56
bob2Bacala: the CD verified yourself?04:56
none_-dabar, same thing04:56
bob2dabar: it's silly and the same, yes04:56
mchugh24Hey , I used synaptc to upate firefox to 1.0.7 and I get error: Error: No running window found04:56
mchugh24auto selected locale: en-US04:56
Bacalait works in another machine04:56
mchugh24any ideas what to do? Thanks04:56
dabarhow about without the identify part?04:56
bob2Bacala: that's not the same thing04:56
Bacalaand I checked with md504:56
glickexcuse me how do i change my default group when i login?04:56
bob2Bacala: of the .iso file or the cd itself?04:57
none_-dabar, sudo == root04:57
bob2glick: why?04:57
Bacala.iso04:57
none_-sudo runs the command as superuser04:57
bob2Bacala: then you need to check the cd itself04:57
dabarI dont mean running sudo irssi.04:57
glickbob2, i need to be a default member of another group so cvs works properly04:57
bob2Bacala: boot into expert mode and choose "verify cd" or whatever it is04:57
BacalaI didn't know I could do that04:57
bob2glick: no, someone needs to make the cvs repository sticky04:58
dabarjust running as the sudoer user.04:58
CarlFKhmm, dead air... I suck as a dj...04:58
glickbob2, how do you do that?04:58
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none_-dabar, it shouldn't make a difference04:58
CarlFKi need to get djbot working...04:58
mike1lo04:58
dabarThank you.04:58
Plebeuzglick do thet04:58
Bacalak thanks04:58
Plebeuzglick vi passwd04:58
Plebeuzglick find ur user04:58
mike1Problem: wireless network04:59
mchugh24Hey , I used synaptc to upate firefox to 1.0.7 and I get error: Error: No running window found04:59
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none_-mchugh24, use apt-get04:59
sambagirlwhat should i use CARLfX music player?'04:59
glickthanks Plebeuz04:59
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none_-w04:59
glickhow do i make the cvs repos sticky?04:59
none_-sambagirl, ??04:59
Plebeuzglick then u will see user:x:number:number:anithinmg04:59
mchugh24I thouth synaptic was a front end to apt get?04:59
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mike1DWL-520 rev e  my system sees card, I give it essid --- no go?05:00
Plebeuzglick the second number is the number of group05:00
none_-mchugh24, it is but they are stilltwo different programs05:00
Plebeuzglick just set the properly number05:00
glickPlebeuz, thanks, yeah i remimber now05:00
CarlFKSegmentation fault!05:00
mchugh24ok I'll try it05:00
sambagirlsegmentation fault?05:00
sambagirlok05:00
Plebeuzglick in /etc/group u see the group number05:00
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CarlFKits up again05:00
Plebeuzok05:01
CarlFKnow to find that IRC bot that lets you kick songs05:01
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none_-kick songs?05:01
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PlebeuzHey people, are u tired to use sudo for config anything?05:01
Trashcansudo -i05:01
sambagirlok05:01
StricklinI've got backups of my Thunderbird directory containing my mail and such from my Windows XP install that I just gave up on. Now I have Ubuntu and Thunderbird installed, and I'd like to transfer everything over, but I'm told I don't have the permissions to do that. I'm kinda a newbie to Linux. Would somebody give me a hand?05:01
none_-Plebeuz, sudo bash05:02
KiwiKibi_does ubuntu have SEL--Security Enhncd Linux?05:02
CarlFKnone_- - i have an irc bot that has the ability to kick the current song05:02
none_-kick?05:02
Trashcansudo -i = full root enviroonment05:02
Trashcan-o05:02
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mchugh24pat-get gives: mozilla-firefox is already the newest version.05:02
none_-you mean send the file to someone else?05:02
AardvarkI'm pretty new to Linux, so I need to ask...is Ubuntu difficult to install?05:03
PlebeuzHey just vi /etc/passwd then find ur user, then set the numbers user:x:1000:1000:/something , set 0 where u see numbers05:03
CarlFKnone_- kinda, the song is being feed to my icecast server where others can dl the streem (normaly to listen to realtime)05:03
none_-Aardvark, it is easy enough05:03
Plebeuzthen logoff and logon05:03
StricklinAardvark, I just did it and it was extremely painless.05:03
Trashcanplebeuz you're so stupid05:03
Plebeuzand u are administrator of the machine05:03
kurtbecAardvark: its not bad at all.05:03
none_-CarlFK, ahhh05:03
AardvarkNice...I tried installing Gentoo and it not only didn't work, but I also killed my Windows boot sector05:04
ericzi installed ubuntu from those free cd's they ship and i had to do almost nothing05:04
none_-gentoo is much more difficult05:04
AardvarkI didn't quite pull off the LILO thing correctly05:04
mchugh24apt-get gives: mozilla-firefox is already the newest version.05:04
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sambagirlCARLFX dont i have rhythmbox05:04
AardvarkYeah but my friend says it's supposed to be one of the best distros05:04
kurtbecAardvark: Gentoo isn't hard just much more involved.05:04
AardvarkSo I gave it a try05:04
AardvarkYeah05:04
none_-it is one of the best. if not the best05:04
durteven though its slow05:05
CarlFKdjbot is in the hose!  (#vfp house that is)05:05
kurtbecAardvark: I really like Gentoo, but the compiling just finally got to me so I'm either going with kubuntu or Fedora we'll see what wins out05:05
CarlFKhose?05:05
none_-you mean the installation?05:05
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none_-use distcc to compile in gentoo05:06
kevogod_If Fedora wins, I'd laugh.05:06
StricklinAnybody?05:06
flodinebreezy running like a champ05:06
none_-redhat sucks05:06
kurtbecdistcc helps, but things still take forever unless you have very fast hardware.05:06
none_-has for a long time05:06
kurtbecnone_-: that is one opinion.05:06
none_-kurtbec, i think you should be surprised how well it works05:07
Toma-offtopic chan plz..05:07
none_-should, would05:07
AardvarkThe one very attractive thing about Gentoo is the emerge command...05:07
sambagirlCARLFX can i private message you?05:07
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CarlFKsambagirl sure05:07
AardvarkIt would rock if other distros picked it up05:08
Toma-if im mounting a drive for all users to read/write/exec, why doesnt 'auto defaults 0 0' work as the options in fstab?05:08
none_-Aardvark, you can easily install it on slackware05:08
none_-same with apt-get05:08
CarlFKsambagirl (and whoever else is listening) join #vfp to see the bot in action05:08
AardvarkAh05:08
none_-or you could use linux from scratch05:08
AardvarkHeh05:08
AardvarkI'm a newbie so I only know a small amount05:08
AardvarkLike I know about RPM packs, but they aren't quite the same05:09
kurtbecnone_-: i hope so.  I really do.  I've done rpm based distros since redhat 5.x and they are ok but I'm still looking for something that i really like.  Gentoo was very close, but the compiling finally got to me after over a yar.05:09
deanI was following http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3713 step#2 - 1. sudo apt-get install linux-686 if you haven't already.05:09
deanor -k7 or -686-smp or -386... whatever matches your kernel.=== I chose 686 when I should've done 386, now my nic won't work... can anyone help?05:09
none_-well, apt-get is the best package manager05:09
AardvarkCool, I should remember that05:09
none_-kurtbec, i recommend Linux From Scratch05:10
none_-the text explains everything you need05:10
none_-to know05:10
kurtbecnone_-: definitely not LFS.  itsgreat but a management nightmare.05:10
AardvarkI was pretty saddened to find out that there are fewer free distros...Mandrake even sold out05:11
Toma-dean: the 386/686 part wont effect your nic05:11
Trashcanwhat's the development package to get?05:11
AardvarkSo I'm glad there's Ubuntu05:11
Trashcanfor breezy, that includes glibc etc.05:11
none_-kurtbec, agreed05:11
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glickbob2, how do you make the cvs repos sticky?05:11
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deanToma - I'm  now getting an error when I reboot that says that an invalid module rt2500.ko  can not be loaded05:11
Toma-try getting rid of the .ko part05:12
kurtbecdoing a dist-upgrade to breezy as we speak so we'll see how that goes :-)05:12
bob2glick: chmod g+s /whateva05:12
deani'm pretty noob - how should I do that?05:12
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none_-kurtbec, it's virtually stable at this point.. things should run smoothly05:13
Toma-dean: check to see if that "rt2500.ko" is in your /etc/modules05:13
Toma-if it is, get rid of the .ko and save05:13
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Toma-bbl.05:13
none_-where's the rainbow shell?05:13
kurtbecnone_-: I've hear mixed on breezy.  I've heard mostly good but a few that say that are quite a few bugs yet.  So  iguess it depeds on what you do.05:13
deantoma -thanks, but it's not in etc/modules05:13
ivanoat1can anyone recommend a PCMCIA wifi card that is known to work with ubuntu and supports WPA?05:14
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none_-yeah, there are still bugs05:14
malvsuppose I ssh into another computer, is there a way to run a gui application on that computers display?05:14
none_-most of them are not critical though05:14
kurtbecnone_-: thats good05:15
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none_-malv, you want to ssh to the X server or use VNC05:15
deanis there a log of the startup messages displayed before you can login to gnome?05:15
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malvnone_-: actually i figured i tout05:15
none_-cool05:16
Toma-ssh has x tunneling if its enabled05:16
malvjust need to ssh, then do DISPLAY=:0 <gui>05:16
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malvlike my sister is using linux, and I like to control her pc from my room05:16
bob2charming05:16
malvwell, i've been fiddling with samba, so I keep all the movies, tv episodes on my pc05:17
Trashcanlovely05:17
none_-is your sister hot?05:17
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iiiearslol05:17
malvyea, she's super hot05:17
Pablo_CLOL!!05:17
Trashcanis Seveas here?05:17
none_-sweet05:17
Trashcanmalv: you concern me05:17
Trashcanplease, don't breed05:17
Pablo_Cturn on her webcam server :P05:17
malvsometimes I hook her up with people I meet on Ubuntu chat05:17
none_-incest is universal05:17
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none_-how old is your sister?05:18
malvdunno05:18
bob2none_-: malv enough05:18
none_-you don't have a sister, do you05:18
malv16-1805:18
bob2none_-: malv as above05:18
malvprobably 17, I suppose05:18
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malvanywho, she can use ubuntu better than most05:18
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KiwiKibi_I need to obtain KUbuntu in CD-ROMS: anyone have a URL where I can order it?05:19
Pablo_Cmalv you from birc or mc1?05:19
net10hello!05:19
none_-KiwiKibi_, www.kubuntu.org05:19
malvPablo_C: dunno even know what you are asking05:19
none_-they are free05:19
Pablo_Cok great05:19
Trashcan!tell kiwikibi about kubuntu05:19
Pablo_Cthen you are not05:19
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bob2I'm pretty sure kubuntu doesn't have shipit05:19
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none_-really? suckage05:20
justin_ok how am i suppose to get sound working on ubuntu05:20
justin_it like does not work at all05:20
crimsunjustin_: lspci -v|grep -i audio05:20
none_-KiwiKibi_, you could do the server install and then add kde05:21
none_-normal ubuntu05:21
net10can someone help me? i can't configure how to open the other ubuntu users in my network. i want to open their shared folder but i can't.05:21
KiwiKibi_Breezy == 5.__?05:21
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crimsun5.1005:21
crimsun[200] 5.October05:21
odd-hoary is 5.0405:21
odd-It came out this month?05:21
KiwiKibi_'k05:21
odd-o_005:21
odd-5.10 came out this month?05:21
crimsunodd-: Breezy comes out in 12 days or thereabouts05:22
Trashcan5.10 = breezy05:22
none_-not yet05:22
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odd-oh fuck05:22
odd-12 days?05:22
justin_ok..wait how am i suppose to like get sound working on ubuntu05:22
malvodd-: did you forget to prepare for your breezy launch party?05:22
tritiumodd-, please watch the language05:22
Trashcanmatt@ubuntuLaptop:~$ gcc05:22
Trashcan bash: gcc: command not found05:22
odd-forgive me..05:22
odd-I don't run breezy..05:22
none_-Trashcan, apt-get install build-essential05:22
net10can someone give me an advice on how to open the shared folder in the other ubuntu users in my network? plleeeaaasssee...05:22
odd-I run hoary.05:22
Trashcanthank you, none05:22
malvnow all the digg people are finding their way into this channel =(05:22
tritiumjustin_, listen to crimsun's advice05:23
Trashcani asked what that was earlier05:23
crimsunjustin_: open a Terminal and type the command I pasted above05:23
none_-that should do it05:23
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Trashcanroger05:23
=== Trashcan hugs none
none_-:D05:23
none_-lol] 05:23
odd-heya none05:23
Pablo_Chmm05:23
deancan anyone help getting my rt2500 NIC working?05:23
Trashcanyay05:23
malvdean: yea, they have drivers online05:23
net10hi tritium, can you me an advice on how to open the shared folder in the other ubuntu users in my network? plleeeaaasssee...05:24
Pablo_Chow do I enable a network interface from cli?05:24
malvyou need to get the linux headers05:24
Trashcanmatt@ubuntuLaptop:~$ gcc05:24
Trashcangcc: no input files05:24
deanmalv I got them working, but ran into some problems...05:24
malvdean: what problem?05:24
tritiumnet10, how is it shared?05:24
Pablo_Chow do I enable a network interface from cli?05:24
tritiumPablo_C, if it's listed in your /etc/network/interfaces, "sudo ifup <interface_name>"05:24
net10using samba @tritium05:24
Pablo_Cok05:24
Pablo_Cty05:24
crimsuneven'n' tritium05:25
tritiumnet10, can you browse them?05:25
bob2Trashcan: yes, what are you hoping to do with gcc?05:25
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Trashcani'm a programmer05:25
Trashcan:o05:25
tritiumhi crimsun!  I'm impressed - 1/2 a second after joining, you're answering questions :)05:25
deanmalv - I was following http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3713 step#2 - 1. sudo apt-get install linux-686 if you haven't already.05:25
crimsuntritium ;)05:25
deanor -k7 or -686-smp or -386... whatever matches your kernel.=== I chose 686 when I should've done 386, now my nic won't work... can anyone help?05:25
justin_ok05:25
justin_i did that05:25
deanmalv - I'm  now getting an error when I reboot that says that an invalid module rt2500.ko  can not be loaded05:25
justin_now what05:25
crimsunjustin_: and the output is...?05:26
Trashcanmoreover i need g++, but wherever gcc was i was assuming to find it there05:26
net10yes, i can see the folder but when i try to open its contents, it says "the folder contents could not be displayed". @ tritium05:26
Trashcannow for tcl and tk :D05:26
nootropeHow does one "right-click" with Ubuntu HH for PowerPC? I'm on a PowerBook.05:26
malvyou need to recompile for that 686 version05:26
tritiumnet10, what happens when you go to Places->Network Servers ?05:26
malvyou need the headers corresponding to it05:26
bob2Trashcan: install build-essential05:26
Trashcanyup, got it05:26
Trashcan:)05:26
Trashcanthanks05:26
deanlet me see if I can figure it out malv... that should help05:26
malvdean: or you could just go back to the 386 version05:26
deanhow can I revert?05:26
bob2Trashcan: you'll rarely need to run gcc manually, tho05:26
justin_i dont even know05:27
TrashcanI know05:27
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TrashcanI figured wherever I would find g++, gcc would be there05:27
Trashcanerm05:27
Trashcanother way around05:27
none_-just apt-get install g++ then05:27
bob2ah05:27
deanmalv can I just sudo apt-get install linux-386 now?05:27
bob2just g++ doesn't let you build exetcutables, tho05:27
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justin_i dont even know what an output is05:27
malvtry it05:27
TrashcanI know, bob05:27
malvshould work05:27
misfit_toybiab, cigar time05:27
bob2orry, was talking to none_- :)05:27
net10we can see the shared folder but not the contents of it.05:28
Toma-misfit_toy: thats because they have a 4.95/min help hotline05:28
Trashcanok :p05:28
malvit will automatically reconfigure grub and show both versions of the kernel05:28
Pablo_Ctritium, if the interface is not there can I add it there?05:28
malvjust make sure you boot up the right one05:28
none_-yeah, i'm not aware of the libraries that are needed05:28
tritiumPablo_C, if you're comfortable doing that.05:28
Pablo_Cwhy wouldnt I be?05:28
net10we can see the shared folder but not the contents of it. @tritium05:28
none_-libstdc something05:28
kurtbecnet10: what shared folder are you talking about?05:29
Pablo_Cwhen I enable it is just imidiately disables through the setting05:29
tritiumnet10, not sure what to suggest05:29
Pablo_CI dont knwo what05:29
none_-or the header files05:29
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KiwiKibi_which one is more stable: a Preview or a Colony?05:29
crimsunPreview05:29
none_-neither05:30
Trashcan:p05:30
crimsunalthough you should run Hoary if you want "stable" right this instant.05:30
TrashcanAnyone know exactly *which* RC breezy is?05:30
KiwiKibi_how is a stable release designated then?05:30
net10kurtbec: we set up a folder on desktop and shared it. we can see it and open it from other workstation. but the contents of that shared folder can't be opened.05:30
crimsunBreezy is Breezy.05:30
crimsunthere is no other name for it.05:30
malvstability is underrated05:30
TrashcanRC = release candidate05:31
Trashcanbreezy 'preview'05:31
Trashcanas in incomplete05:31
none_-KiwiKibi_, when they reach their goal for this release05:31
TiMiDodamn i hate this usb mouse, sucks05:31
kurtbecnet10: so we are talking a samba share?05:31
malvTiMiDo: is it a microsoft mouse?05:31
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KiwiKibi_WHICH FUCKING WORD INDICATES A RELEASE IS STABLE?  goddam it.05:31
net10kurtbec: yes it's a samba. we're using ubuntu 5.10.05:31
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Trashcanlawl05:32
deanmalv simply rebooting into i386 worked...05:32
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malvdean: good to hear05:32
Trashcannicely done, tritium05:32
breakthestateso i've really screwed up i've apt-getted mplayer-386 and mplayer-nogui and compile mplayer from source several times and removed them several times for different reasons, now when i apt-get mplayer-38605:32
kurtbecnet10: trying to access it from the command line or from gui?05:32
deanmalv: thanks for talking me through it.05:32
malvif you would like to get it working with the i686 kernel, just get the right kernel headers for that version and recompile05:32
net10kurtbec: from gui.05:32
breakthestateit won't find the codes even if i apt-get w32codecs beforehand05:32
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breakthestate*codecs05:32
none_-try apt-get --reinstall install w32codecs05:33
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deanmalv should I be running 686 or 386 with a p4 1.2ghz?05:33
malvdoesn't matter. both will work05:33
breakthestatenone: then reinstall mplayer?05:33
MadpilotPPCbreakthestate, the w32codecs aren't in any of the Ubuntu repos anymore, AFAIK05:33
malvone might give you marginal performance05:33
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breakthestateeven in the universe repos?05:33
deanthanks malv05:33
none_-metaverse05:34
MadpilotPPC!tell breakthestate about restricted05:34
AnkhWeaselIs there a quick and easy way to get microphone working in Ubuntu?05:34
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kurtbecnet10: gnome or kde?05:34
malvdean: no problem05:34
crimsunAnkhWeasel: depends on your sound chipset05:34
MadpilotPPCbreakthestate, the w32codecs can be found, see the msg ubotu just sent you05:34
net10kurtbec: gnome05:34
AnkhWeaselEven if it works well in XP?05:34
Trashcangoddamn ubotu05:34
Trashcannot responding to PMs05:34
Trashcan!tell trashcan about ATI05:35
breakthestateMadpilot:  i think i'll be able to find the, thx.. we'll see what happens with my reinstalls05:35
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dbzdeathanyone know why it would be laggy in firefox just to scroll down a page? something doesn't seem right... it takes full cpu when doing it05:35
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jackelMy firefox crashes everytime i go to a page with a video on it, anyone know how to fix it?05:35
dbzdeathbtw i'm on breezy amd6405:35
AnkhWeasel'kay, thanks.05:35
Trashcandbz: probably your video drivers05:35
dbzdeathTrashcan: oh??05:35
Trashcannot being able to render the page fast enough05:35
durtjackel, i have the same problem with firefox 1.5 - so i use opera05:36
dbzdeathTrashcan: i have a nvidia card with the nvidia drivers installed05:36
breakthestateopera rules05:36
Trashcan:\05:36
none_-dbz that's a known bu05:36
none_-g05:36
Trashcanguess not then05:36
breakthestateand i hear opera is free now05:36
none_-check google05:36
dbzdeathnone_-: ahhh?05:36
dbzdeathcheers05:36
jackelhmm05:36
TrashcanI figured it was the same as resizing windows05:36
none_-opera owns05:36
Trashcan<-- wrong drivers + resizing windows = laaaag05:36
durtit is free now - no more adds!05:36
none_-yep05:36
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none_-download it now05:37
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jackeldurt, you know why it was happening?05:37
malvwho pays for a browser anyways05:37
none_-it's worth it05:37
dbzdeathnone_-: also i have this weird bug where browsing somewhere will open the page i go to in a new window with the window's name as two question marks and if i close the window all of firefox closes... its really weird .. are they related?05:37
breakthestatemalv: it was cheap and good05:37
crimsunbreakthestate: free as in beer.05:37
MadpilotPPCbreakthestate, you still helped make it free for the rest of us... ;)05:37
durtjackel, i dont know why - i guess its unstable or something05:37
breakthestatemad: true true05:37
misfit_toyand I'll have the beer05:37
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none_-dbzdeath, only because they are the fault of firefox05:37
=== MadpilotPPC apt-get another_cold_beer_and_pizza
kurtbecnet10: have you tried going to File->Connect to Server and then choosing windows share?05:38
jackeldurt, and with opera you can stream all the vids too?05:38
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dbzdeathnone_-: ... i mean are they the same bug??05:38
breakthestateapt-get install change DC laws so they sell beer past 1005:38
durtjackel: yes05:38
lampshadeGotta a general question about apt.  If apt is updating stuff... say firefox, and I'm using firefox, would it close firefox?  If it doesn't, how does it do the update?05:38
none_-dbzdeath, i don't think so05:38
dbzdeathnone_-: thanks05:38
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enigma002hello everyone05:38
tritiumhello, enigma00205:38
breakthestatehi05:38
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enigma002how are you tritium?05:38
jc1013hi05:39
jc1013I just got ubuntu install in my computer, this is pretty cool05:39
tritiumdoing well, thanks, enigma00205:39
enigma002thats great05:39
tristanmikelampshade, perhaps it applies the changes next time you start firefox05:39
enigma002yea i just installed it too05:39
none_-lampshade, you have to quit firefox for the update05:39
enigma002:D05:39
enigma002it ROCKS05:39
tritium:)05:39
enigma002few questions but05:39
enigma002:$05:39
jc1013yeah and is free!05:39
enigma002yep05:39
lampshadenone_-:  so would it prompt or what?  Will apt just stop and be like hey quit this program?05:39
enigma002hey guys05:39
jc1013windows ain't got shit on this05:39
lampshadewhat if you are using a bash console and it needs to update bash?05:39
none_-it won't do anything05:40
enigma002i just orderd like 40 cds PC and 10 mack or something05:40
enigma002will they send it to me?05:40
malvyea05:40
malvthey sent me 80 cds05:40
enigma002i am a computer admin at a uni collage05:40
none_-any programs already running are in RAM or swap05:40
malvI made an ubuntu suit of armor05:40
enigma002wow05:40
enigma002:D05:40
enigma002great05:40
tritiummalv, that's not what they're for ;)05:40
durtthe one thing windows has over ubuntu is playing wmvs05:40
malvnow this ubuntu zealot will get some attention05:40
jc1013what's wmvs?05:40
malvnah, i plan to hand them out at the uni to freshman05:40
MadpilotPPCdurt, you can play wmvs in x86 Ubuntu05:40
breakthestatedurt: ubuntu can lay wmvs05:40
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jc1013what is wmvs?05:41
breakthestatejc: a type of media file05:41
durtnot wmv10s or whatever certain "adult site" offer05:41
jc1013oh for video05:41
MadpilotPPCjc1013, Windows Media Video, I think it stands for05:41
malvis it possible to play quicktime vids for free with ubuntu?05:41
breakthestatemalv: i would guess so with mplayer05:41
breakthestateand the right codecs05:42
tristanmikemalv, yes but you need the w32codecs05:42
jc1013is it possible to install excel in umbunto?05:42
MadpilotPPCmalv, with w32codecs05:42
malvhow about streaming quicktime?05:42
none_-yes pretty much every codec05:42
none_-will play on linux05:42
enigma002where can u get linux codecs?05:42
malvok05:42
malvwhat about wmv 9?05:42
tristanmikemalv, yeah, I stream from the quicktime trailers site all the time05:42
MadpilotPPCjc1013, OpenOffice will load most Excel files05:42
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durtjc1013 - gnumeric works good05:42
kurtbecjc1013: you can run ms office apps very well with crossover office and maybe with stock wine.05:42
drklogic_(kubuntu hoary question) every couple hours amarok randomly crashes and i end up having to kill it, and it wont start back up again until i restart kde. anyone know anything about this problem?05:42
breakthestatemalv: go to mplayerhq.com05:42
none_-malv, if you mean embedded video then you need the firefox plugin05:42
MadpilotPPCenigma002, they're all in the Ubuntu repositories05:42
jc1013thanks05:43
malvok05:43
enigma002ohhh05:43
lampshademalv:  yeah vlc and other such players will play pretty well everything.  It is amazing05:43
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breakthestatemalv: but use apt-get to get it, don't compile from source05:43
enigma002where do i find repositories :$05:43
enigma002sorry im new to this05:43
enigma002ie 2hours new05:43
enigma002to linux05:43
MadpilotPPC!tell enigma002 about repos05:43
jc1013are you guys always in channel 1?05:43
enigma002:$05:43
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breakthestateenigma: it's as hard as it seems05:43
MadpilotPPCenigma002, follow the msg that ubotu just sent you05:43
enigma002sure05:43
enigma002:D05:43
enigma002thanks05:43
dmlinuxHey guys, can ANYONE tell me why i cant edit  a XORG.CONF file, when i sudo nano it acts as if there is no file there05:43
none_-xorg.conf05:44
none_-all lowercase05:44
dmlinuxi knw05:44
none_-it's in /etc/X11R6/05:44
none_-er05:44
tritiumdmlinux, generally, you want to "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"05:44
none_- /etc/X1105:44
malvwhat is the firefox plugin called?05:44
dmlinuxim trying to edit the xorg.conf for my input devices.05:44
kurtbecnet10: you still there?05:44
benhheh05:44
tristanmikemalv, media player connectivity05:45
benhbreezy has this funky front-end on top of sysvinit05:45
none_-Malv there are a couple; i was thinking of the mplayer one05:45
benhbut I didn't get it when upgrading from hoary05:45
benhit's a separate package ?05:45
durtits in /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:45
tritiumbenh, it's in gnome-system-tools05:46
benhtritium: not the front-end for configuring05:46
tritiumbenh, yeah...05:46
benhtritium: the front-end at boot, instead of text mode, I get a gfx stuff with a progress bar05:46
iiiearsdid Breezy finally configure grub menu.lst correctly with various layouts?05:46
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dbzdeathnone_-: the memory leak bug??05:47
tritiumbenh, usplash?  sudo dpkg-reconfigure your linux-image05:47
tritiumi.e., sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)05:48
benhtritium: hrm... not sure if it's the kernel bootsplash, looked more like a front end on sysvinit05:48
benhtritium: I'm using my own kernel, so that won't work :)05:49
tritiumbenh, oh, that's right.  Not sure how you can enable it in that case.05:49
benhtritium: breezy doesn't have fan control & working nvidiafb for that machine :)05:49
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tritiumbenh, yeah, your iMac G5, right?05:50
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Trashcanhey hey05:51
Trashcanproblem  :o05:51
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TrashcanI installed the ati drivers, and edited /etc/X11/xorg.conf like the wiki tutorial said05:51
Trashcanand then i reboot, and X fails to start, which wouldn't be a problem05:51
dbzdeathhey is it possible to install ubuntu on a mac?05:52
Trashcanbut, the boot process halts05:52
malvdbzdeath: yea05:52
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Trashcanit just sits there after 'Checking battery state'05:52
malvdbzdeath: you need the ppc edition05:52
Trashcanso i cant go in and change the xorg.conf back05:52
dbzdeathmalv: cool... was just curious... if i ever get a mac i'll install it ;)05:52
Trashcanhow do i stop X from initing before boot?05:52
malvdbzdeath: they will all be x86 very soon05:52
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durttrashcan, can you boot up in recovery mode?05:52
Trashcanexplain?05:53
dbzdeathmalv: i know ... thats good :)05:53
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durthit ESC at when it says grub is loading and choose recovery mode05:53
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Trashcanalright05:53
Trashcanwill do05:53
dbzdeathdon't need to run crummy mac software :P05:53
Trashcananother thing: can you reorder the boot process?05:53
TrashcanNTP starts up before PCMCIA05:53
vladuz976anybody know how to install japanese language support?05:53
Trashcanso my wireless card isn't on05:53
Trashcanand NTP fails05:54
kurtbecdbzdeath: i second that notion05:54
dbzdeathkurtbec: yay :)05:54
malvvladuz976: i think it's apt-get install language-support-ja05:54
malvcorrect me if I am wrong05:54
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Trashcancool, recovery worked05:55
Trashcanthanks05:55
kurtbecmacs have caused me no end of grief in life.05:55
nomasteryodai concur on that kurtbec05:55
Trashcanwtf... boots straight into root05:55
malvtook me 5 days to figure out how to eject a floppy05:55
nomasteryodamuch pain in the....05:55
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nomasteryodalol05:55
Trashcanso all someone has to do is walk up and reset the machine05:55
kurtbecthey killed my innter child :-)05:55
Trashcanto get root05:55
vladuz976malv: i'll try05:55
malvi'll take a shotgun blast to the head over a mac =)05:55
Trashcan</3 mac05:55
Trashcanmacs SUCK <-- imao05:55
durttrashcan, you can set a root pass then05:56
malvunless I got it for free, then its ok05:56
dbzdeathTrashcan: i agree,,, pc's are better... but hey what do you do when you get a free mac from a competition or something? install linux :P05:56
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Trashcanwon't having an active root account defeat the purpose of the sudo model?05:56
kurtbechardware is mostly good, but software stinks05:56
malvsudo is still safer05:56
dbzdeathyeah05:56
dbzdeathmac's OS' are like windows to me... less choice than linux05:56
malvat least windows can game05:57
dbzdeathchoice is good :D05:57
dbzdeathyeah true05:57
kurtbecyep still proprietary lock in no matter how you sugar coat it.05:57
malvwith mac, I get nothing over linux... nothing... well, I do get an OpenGl driven desktop engine05:57
malvpretty icons too05:57
dbzdeathbah i'm pretty sure there are wm's like that for linux05:57
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malvhaven't found a truly awesome icon set for linux yet05:58
djbrieckhello05:58
tritiumthere's always #ubuntu-offtopic for extended discussion of other OSes05:58
dbzdeathhaha sorry :/05:58
kurtbecyou guys have seen the movie that a guy about why he hates macs right?05:58
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tritiumno worries, dbzdeath05:58
dbzdeathkurtbec: #ubuntu-offtopic :P05:58
scanwinderwhats the command to restart xorg?05:58
Trashcan[20:57]  <dbzdeath> Trashcan: i agree,,, pc's are better... but hey what do you do when you get a free mac from a competition or something? install linux :P <-- for sure :D05:59
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malvscanwinder: ctrl + alt + backspace05:59
frogmaneh? what's this "colony 1-5" thing05:59
Trashcanaside from the inability to upgrade, ubuntu or freebsd on a mac with a 3 button mouse would be nice05:59
Trashcanbut if its a lappy, the no-upgrade doesnt matter anyway05:59
kurtbecdbzdeath: sorry my bad.  that movie made me cry i laughed so hard.05:59
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TrashcanI would very much like to have ubuntu on a nice mac lappy :D05:59
tritiumTrashcan, what do you mean by "no upgrade" on ubuntu?05:59
Trashcanwith a 3 button usb mouse05:59
Trashcani mean to the hardware06:00
dbzdeathkurtbec: is that the one that the guy said he loves mac's and at the end it says this was made with a mac and the movie goes all shitty? mocking mac's06:00
Trashcannice thing about PC is, I can upgrade it whenever i want06:00
vladuz976malv: that package translates packages into japanese, so i can read all the menus in japanese. but how can i type japanese?06:00
Trashcanand theres a sheer plethora of things to put in it06:00
dbzdeathTrashcan: yes! go modding06:00
frogmanubuntu on a nice pc lappy > ubuntu on a nice mac lappy (personally)06:00
malvvladuz976: oh, dunno06:00
dbzdeathmac lappies aren't bad06:00
kurtbecdbzdeath: no its a bit different than that.06:00
lampshadeIf I have the preview version installed and I am looking to upgrade to the real thing once it comes out, will I have to mod my apt sources at all or will it be transparent?  Like one day I just to apt-get update and upgrade and bam I have the official version?06:00
frogmannot great either06:00
dbzdeathkurtbec: haven't seen it then06:01
frogmani've owned 3. and many pc lappies06:01
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dilmaroi06:01
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dilmarhellowwww06:01
dilmarhellowww06:01
Trashcani like mac for the sexy-factor06:01
dbzdeathdilmar: HIIIIIIIIIII06:01
tritiumhi, dilmar06:01
CodenameROFLharro06:01
dilmarhi06:02
Trashcanbut mac is very much form over function06:02
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durti like porn for the sexy factor06:02
Trashcanheh06:02
Trashcanwell... duh06:02
dilmari don t understand06:02
dbzdeathhahaha'06:02
malvmac relies on image06:02
dbzdeathi don't really like apple much06:02
dilmarno06:02
lampshademac is what linux should kinda aim for honestly....  it has the nice darwin shell underneath but on top has the nice pretty graphics art students love06:02
WhiteRabbitporn is for those who can't get more than 1 woman into bed at one time!06:02
malvoverall, the experience, for me, is purely aesthetics06:02
dilmari don't understand.....06:02
tritiumplease keep on topic06:02
MadpilotPPC**ahem** ubuntu-offtopic is nice and quiet, everyone... ;)06:02
dbzdeathhahaha06:02
lampshadehaha06:03
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dilmarhahahahha06:03
nomasteryodayou guys need to go over to #freenode to talk Pr0n06:03
tritiumindeed, please not here06:03
nomasteryodakeep it on ubuntu please06:03
dilmarhellowwwwww06:03
Trashcanwhats the command to regenerate the default xorg.conf?06:03
WhiteRabbitHEY06:03
Trashcansomething happened and now it says it's incomplete :)06:03
Trashcanall i changed was 'ati'06:03
dilmargirl06:03
lampshadewhatever, I saw the old cd covers... that was close to pr0n06:03
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tritiumTrashcan, you can reconfigure it with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"06:03
dilmarhi06:03
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Trashcanthanks06:03
Trashcantritium saves the day again06:04
dbzdeathMadpilotPPC: i'm in it! they aren't :P06:04
tritiumheh06:04
dilmarin problem in the clock06:04
dilmar2 systens in one HD06:04
dilmarplease, help-me06:04
djbrieckI am having so trouble with my wireless network card in my laptop06:04
odd-so, if you ssh to a boxen, and mplayer -vo aa file.avi , you get ascii movies06:04
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dilmarbye06:05
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Dongdongbye06:05
djbrieckit shows up and has a signal but will not conncect to the internet06:05
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djbriecksystem is a Dell Inspiron 820006:06
enigma002i tried the repositorys but cant find one that will play WMP06:06
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djbrieckIntel Pro/Wireless 2200 card06:06
tritiumdjbrieck, hoary?06:06
catherine_hi06:06
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djbrieck5.0406:06
djbriecki think06:06
nomasteryodadjbrieck, you need ndiswrapper then06:06
Trashcanand xinit to start up X?06:06
MadpilotPPCenigma002, you can get the w32codecs for wmv06:06
nomasteryoda!tell djbrieck about ndiswrapper06:06
Trashcanafter i've reconfigured06:06
tritiumno, ipw2200 is supported without ndiswrapper06:06
nomasteryodaok06:06
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nomasteryodamy bad06:06
catherine_ctc pls06:07
Trashcanyay06:07
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lampshadeyeah there is a sourceforge project for the ipw220006:07
Trashcanx works06:07
tritiumTrashcan, no, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start06:07
Trashcanthanks tritium06:07
Trashcanwell06:07
Trashcanreboot06:07
Trashcan:p06:07
desseriehi06:07
frogmanyeah, i was thinking: since when do any intel network cards not have linux driver support?06:07
desseriehi06:07
tritiumdjbrieck, the ipw2200 support in breezy is much better.  Care to upgrade?06:07
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crimsunipw2200 support in Breezy is excellent.06:07
djbrieckok06:08
iamsobored00566i cant change the screen resolution06:08
lampshadecrimsun: really??06:08
tritiumyes!06:08
iamsobored00566i am using the live cd06:08
iamsobored00566anyone want to help?06:08
lampshadecrimsun:  I haven't tried but have been waiting for it to be supported nicely06:08
djbrieckso I have to type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start to get it to work06:08
lampshadecrimsun:  Does it work well?  Are you using it??06:08
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Trashcanso about boot reordering06:08
tritiumlampshade, I'm using it as we speak06:08
Trashcanis it possible to move NTP start up to post-PCMCIA?06:09
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{X}hi06:09
TrashcanNTP fails every boot, since the wireless hasn't been initialized yet06:09
tritiumTrashcan, with update-rc.d, you can change things around06:09
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nomasteryodawahooo .. only 140 updates to go06:10
Trashcan:D06:10
dmlinuxOk guys06:10
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{X}hi06:11
{X}ive just got ubuntu06:11
dmlinuxIam trying to edit a xorg.conf in /etc/x11/xorg.conf but evertime i do sudo nano /etc/x11/xorg.conf nano opens up a new file and doesnt open the existing... HOW DO I CHANGE THE READ ONLY for the xorf.conf so i can configure my Bluetooth mouse06:11
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{X}is there any good programs i should install ?06:11
{X}!kde06:11
ubotuA powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hoary/06:11
djbrieckWhat should I try to get the ipw 2200 to work other than downloading 5.1006:11
Trashcanoh boy06:12
tritiumdjbrieck, most hoary users build more recent ipw2200 modules, which is a fair amount of work06:12
Trashcani dont think im gonna touch update-rc.d yet :)06:12
{X}!ftp06:12
ubotu{X}: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?06:12
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Chinamananyone got cedega?06:13
durtyes chinaman06:13
Chinamanhow would i set it up?06:14
dmlinuxIam trying to edit a xorg.conf in /etc/x11/xorg.conf but evertime i do sudo nano /etc/x11/xorg.conf nano opens up a new file and doesnt open the existing... HOW DO I CHANGE THE READ ONLY for the xorf.conf so i can configure my Bluetooth mouse06:14
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Chinamani got cedega package and point2play seperately06:14
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Chinamanand the instructions in that thing are utterly confusing06:14
nomasteryodadmlinux, you need to use X11 there06:14
nomasteryodanot x1106:14
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cosimo321Hello all I have problem and need help06:14
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durtchinaman, did you get a cedega deb?06:15
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nomasteryodacosimo321, ask it06:15
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Chinamandurt: i got deb of both06:15
cosimo321I have downloaded both the nvidia drivers for my fx5200 pci card and my wacom tablet drivers.06:15
cosimo321However, I cannot install them06:15
cosimo321command line sees the pkg but when I try to install itsays no package exists06:16
durtchinaman, i dont know what pointyplay is - just install the cedega deb06:16
nomasteryoda!tell cosimo321 about nvidia06:16
cosimo321any Ideas?06:16
Trashcandid you typo? :o06:16
Chinamandurt i dpkg --install the cedega one06:16
Chinamannow what do i do?06:16
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cosimo321what about the wacom dirvers?06:16
Trashcananyone know the GMail info for evolution off the top of your head?06:16
durtchinaman, you run "cedega thegameinstallationfile.exe"06:17
nomasteryodacosimo321, you should not need any special ones06:17
Trashcanpop3/smtp06:17
tritiumcosimo321, you should use the ubuntu nvidia packages06:17
hermithey guys i just did a fresh install of ubuntu and it rules! i have one problem though...06:17
nomasteryodamy wacom usb just works06:17
hermitfor some reason, firefox is crashing when i go to www.meatspin.com06:17
hermitit has a flash thing on it but it works on other systems06:17
cosimo321nvidia pacage in ubuntu does not work with this card! have tried and video goes out completely06:17
nomasteryodacosimo321, you just add some config settings to the xorg.conf file06:17
Chinamano.006:17
hermitit seems to be specific to ubuntu's default firefox06:17
cosimo321like what?06:17
hermitcan anyone confirm the same behavior at meatspin.com with firefox?06:17
nomasteryodacosimo321, then you need to install some more stuff06:17
poincare_q06:17
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cosimo321OK!?06:17
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dmlinuxDoes anyone know a better Application for manageing BLUETOOTH on Ubuntu Breezy06:18
nomasteryoda!tell cosimo321 about build-essential06:18
nomasteryodasee that ?06:18
durthermit, you dirty bastard06:18
nomasteryodado it06:18
cosimo321do what?06:18
djbrieckAre there any guide to building modules for the ipw220006:18
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nomasteryodacosimo321, the other tab that opened06:18
tritiumdjbrieck, I saw one on the forums06:18
nomasteryodayou using xchat?06:18
cosimo321what are you talking about?06:18
hermitdurt: did it crash you as well ?06:18
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tritiumI still think upgrading to breezy might be more pleasant, djbrieck06:18
djbrieckok06:18
hermitcosimo321: talking about meatspin.com in firefox06:18
Trashcanhermit for some reason, firefox is crashing when i go to www.meatspin.com <-- someone wanna ban him?06:18
cosimo321yes xchat06:18
nomasteryodacosimo321, the program you are chatting on?06:18
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cosimo321xchat06:19
hermitTrashcan: hey man i'm sorry for finding a bug06:19
jayr3nhello guys06:19
nomasteryodaubotu should have told you something06:19
ubotunomasteryoda: Are you smoking crack?06:19
nomasteryodain a nother tab06:19
tritiumTrashcan, what is that URL?06:19
hermitit could be the flash plugin crashing but i dont know how to narrow it down06:19
hermittritium: it's at meatspin.com06:19
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Trashcantritium: same category as tubgirl, goatse, and lemonparty06:19
jayr3nhow can i install a driver for ati radeon 9250? and can directx be installed in ubuntu06:19
MadpilotPPChermit, I'm Flashless here, that URL loads but has no real non-Flash content...06:19
nomasteryodacosimo321, did you look at the nvidia readme?06:19
tritiumTrashcan, oh06:20
cosimo321for some reason I feel like I am talking to lartians06:20
hermitMadpilotPPC: well then it must be a flash plugin issue06:20
nomasteryodacosimo321, directions are pretty simple... but require those developer packages...06:20
hermitbecause it crashes here as soon as it starts to load06:20
cosimo321can anyone give me a good solution06:20
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hermiti'll have to try getting the flash plugin from macromedia i guess06:20
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hermitthanks for your help06:20
Trashcanshut up hermit... you're just pointing people to look at it06:20
MadpilotPPChermit, it wouldn't surprise me; Ubuntu FF + Flash seems to be twitchy sometimes06:20
setuid_w00tTrashcan: to look at what?06:20
TrashcanI opened it and it came right up06:20
Trashcanno problems06:20
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TrashcanI'm not repeating the url06:20
hermitMadpilotPPC: ah, i didn't know that was a known issue06:20
nomasteryodatritium, can you tel cosimo321 what to do? what an xchat tab is?06:20
hermitsetuid_w00t: meatspin.com06:20
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jayr3nhow can i install a driver for ati radeon 9250? and can directx be installed in ubuntu06:21
hermitwarning: it may crash your browser06:21
nomasteryodaso he can get the !tell info ubotu is telling him06:21
hermitit does mine06:21
tritiumnomasteryoda, sorry, wasn't following that thread.  Let me check...06:21
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MadpilotPPC!+ati06:21
ubotusomebody said ati was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx06:21
MadpilotPPCjayr3n, see ubotu ^^^06:21
nomasteryoda!nvidia06:21
ubotuwell, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia06:21
nomasteryodacosimo321, try that06:21
nomasteryodavery good direcitons06:21
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jayr3nok tnx i will check it out06:21
frogmani bet it doesnt crash your browser.. i've already seen it all though so i'm not a fun one to prank :)06:21
tritiumcosimo321, what are you trying to do with xchat?06:22
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Chinamandurt: would it run halo?06:22
nomasteryodatritium, i think he saw it now06:22
nomasteryodasees06:22
tritiumthanks, nomasteryoda06:22
nomasteryodanp06:22
Chinamandurt: i'm trying to run it from my windows mount06:22
kurtbecy06:22
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durtchinaman, it might06:23
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Chinamanit says i need to free up memory06:23
hermitcan you guys recommend another channel where i could get some help then? since everyone's just being hostile here06:23
cosimo321that package is unavailable06:23
scanwinderhow do i use the command "cd" to get into a dir which has spaces in the name?06:23
tritiumhermit, we're not big fans of your URL06:24
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hermittritium: neither am i, i like my browser to display pages, not disappear06:24
nomasteryodaChinaman, cause it needs to write to the drive you have halo on... and it's an NTFS windows xp right?06:24
scanwinderwait, got it, dw06:24
hermitbut it seems to be a bug06:24
cosimo321nvidia-glx is not avialable06:24
Chinamannomasteryoda: yeah06:24
nomasteryodacosimo321, the directions are basic.. the nvidia installer will work06:24
tritiumit's in restricted, cosimo32106:24
nomasteryodai have done it06:24
nomasteryodayea06:24
Chinamanso basically i have to install it on my 5GB?06:25
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Chinamansigh...06:25
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nomasteryodaChinaman, sounds like it06:25
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markHey guys - How do I install the multiverse thing so I have more aps like skype and stuff in synaptic?06:26
procrastinationncan u play wma ?06:26
nomasteryoda!tell mark about repos06:26
nomasteryodaprocrastinationn, yes06:26
markyes tell mark about repos06:26
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nomasteryoda!tell procrastinationn about w32codecs06:26
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nomasteryodamark, it xchat opened a new tab with that info under ubotu06:27
procrastinationni can play mp3's just not wma's06:27
nomasteryodaprocrastinationn, not if you install w32codecs06:27
nomasteryoda!w32codecs06:27
ubotuwell, w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy). 64-bit? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5439906:27
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marknomasteryoda thanks06:27
WhiteRabbitBut that codecs libary is not legal06:28
WhiteRabbitwhy advertise piracy06:28
procrastinationncan i play wma's and mp3's06:28
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nomasteryodafor the lame xchat users on this channel... xchat opens tabs you can ... Ubotu does that too to help keep down noise06:28
francialguem aqui fala portugues06:28
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nomasteryodamark, np06:28
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nomasteryoda!tell franci about ubuntu-es06:28
nomasteryodaas close as i know to portugues06:28
nomasteryodamabye they have a channel ?06:29
franciok tanks06:29
MadpilotPPC!+pt06:29
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.06:29
nomasteryodaah, good06:29
franci!+pt06:29
procrastinationnso i can play mp3's and wma's06:29
nomasteryodayes06:30
nomasteryodaprocrastinationn, after installing w32codecs06:30
procrastinationnwhere do i get the codec's fpr wms06:30
MadpilotPPCprocrastinationn, the w32codecs pack will run mp3, wma, and a whole pile of other stuff too06:30
nomasteryoda!repos06:30
ubotuwell, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96906:30
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nomasteryodasorry guys, but people don't know how to use x-chat06:31
procrastinationnso why wont it now i can play mp3's06:31
MadpilotPPCprocrastinationn, you've already been given the w32codec info - scroll back up!06:31
nomasteryodathanks MadpilotPPC06:31
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Chinamanomfg, it is installing06:31
wickedpuppynomasteryoda, x-chat is no difference from mirc06:31
nomasteryodaright06:31
nomasteryodawell, people should use xchat... =)06:31
tritiumnomasteryoda, hey, who are you calling lame?  ;)06:31
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nomasteryodaif they are onubuntu06:32
nomasteryodalol06:32
dbzdeathnomasteryoda: xchat pwns :)06:32
MadpilotPPCXChat is awful...06:32
esacdid they change the lock screen dialog? it used to be ubuntu brown, and now it's cool looking, and i don't think i changed anything06:32
dougskMadpilotPPC, so what else would you suggest?06:32
crimsunesac: yes, it changed. And it rocks.06:32
esaci agree !06:33
francija estou no cnal -br, obrigado06:33
MadpilotPPCdougsk, on my own machine I use Opera, with integrated IRC - much slicker than XChat...06:33
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dougskMadpilotPPC, hmm, never tried, I suppose I should now that there is a free beer version06:33
dougskMadpilotPPC, I use epic and xchat and am pretty much lost in all others06:34
esacnow all they have to do is change the splash screen when logging into gnome, and when booting :)06:34
Chinamannomasteryoda: so basically, we don't even NEED point2play?06:35
vladuz976are there other input methods othe than scim that support japanese and work in breezy?06:36
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hondjescim is the best06:36
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esacwhere is the shm directory supposed to be ? i don't see one06:37
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vladuz976hondje: it doesn't work in breezy06:37
dikadikais there a good way to extract single files from a windows .exe?06:37
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esacdikadika: did you just try unzip file.exe ?06:38
hondjehrm, can you use anthy by itself?06:38
dikadikaesac, havent tried, i'll give that a shot thanks06:38
dikadikamy hero06:39
dikadikathanks06:39
Carpe_LibertatemI need to install Linux to an old machine with little resources, so I am going to start with a server install and add a Window manager - what is a good one for an older machine? Would Fluxbox work?06:39
ivanoat1strange question, but is there an equivalent in ubunto to the mac's expose where you can see all your windows at once? I am addicted to that..!06:39
wickedpuppyyup06:40
wickedpuppyfluxbox would be nice06:40
Carpe_Libertatemivanoat1: Install kompose06:40
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ivanoat1sweet, thanks06:40
Carpe_Libertatemivanoat1: it is meant for KDE, but I found it works in Ubuntu GNOME fine06:40
dikadikaCarpe_Libertatem, fux is a low resource WM with lotsof feathers06:40
dikadika*flux06:40
Carpe_LibertatemSo you think it'd be best?06:40
durtanyone with opera know how to change the drop-down menu color to something other than gray?06:41
wickedpuppyCarpe_Libertatem, there is only one way to find out :P06:41
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breakthestatecarpe: you still want so use ubuntu?06:41
breakthestateon this machine06:41
lampshadewhat is kompose?06:41
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dikadikaCarpe_Libertatem, i dont have much exp with low resource WM's but i've used flux and it is real good06:41
Carpe_Libertatembreakthestate, it's for a friend, DSL wouldn't install on it for some reason.06:41
Carpe_Libertatemlampshade, use google :-P06:42
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breakthestatecarpe: i'd try slack10.2 and not install kde, you can pick xfce for your desktop environment and wm, it works good on my old computer06:42
odd-I dislike kde06:42
lampshadeCarpe_Libertatem:  in the time it took you to type that you could have just given a nice friendly description... I wasn't looking for instruction on compiling it from source :-/06:42
odd-that's what got me into ubuntu in the first place06:42
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breakthestatecarpe: how old are we talking with this computer?06:43
ivanoat1I did apt-get install kompose but it's asking me for my cdrom drive, which is in another state! any work-arounds?06:43
Carpe_Libertatempg266, 2gb hdd, 128mb ram06:43
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breakthestateivan: do you know what repos are in your /etc/apt/sources.list?06:44
MadpilotPPCivanoat1, you need to remove the CD from your sources06:44
Pablo_Cdrive to the other state06:44
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jayrwer can i get this xorg-driver-fglrx?06:44
Carpe_Libertatemer06:44
Carpe_Libertatemp266*06:44
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ivanoat1lol, 14 hours later... thanks.. will check sources.list06:44
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breakthestatecarpe: does that mean a pentium II ?06:45
Carpe_LibertatemI'd say so.06:45
mbpillaifglrx modules from ubuntu restricted tree .  I it in compiled form06:45
breakthestateoh, all my computers are pentium III, so i don't know if slack would work well on a pentium II, but i think it could06:46
jayrwhat?06:46
jayrwer can i find drivers for ati radeon 9250?06:46
Carpe_LibertatemDoes slack have apt-get ? :-P06:46
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hondjeit has slapt-get06:46
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poincare_hey06:47
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jayrwer can i find drivers for ati radeon 9250?06:48
Chinamandurt / nomasteryoda: i'm still getting same message06:48
breakthestatecarpe: no, you have to compile stuff, they have an imitation, slapt, but i haven't tried it, i don't think it's that easy - is there an ubuntu lite of any sort?06:48
Chinamaneven after i installed it onto my nix06:49
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djbrieckcan Ntfs be viewed by ubuntu?06:49
Carpe_LibertatemI'll just try server install and fluxbox on top, report my findings06:49
MadpilotPPC!tell jayr about ati06:49
Carpe_Libertatem;-)06:49
lampshadedjbrieck:yes but write is dangerous06:50
djbrieckok how do i do it?06:50
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breakthestatecarpe: i definitely want to know how that goes06:51
hondjedjbrieck: You mount it, and change to that directory06:51
jayrwer can i find drivers for ati radeon 9250?06:51
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hondjemount -t ntfs /dev/whatever /place/you/want/to/mount/it06:51
Trashcan!tell jayr about ati06:51
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djbrieckok06:52
djbrieckthanks06:52
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dougsk_hondje: should the -r option be used as well or does it default to read only?06:52
MadpilotPPCjayr, ubotu should have sent you at least two messages by now - please check them for more information!06:52
jayrwer is E: Couldn't find package xorg-driver-fglrx06:53
jayrwen i follow the instructions06:53
jayrwats the xorg-driver?06:53
Trashcana driver for x.org06:53
jayrwer can i get dat06:53
Trashcanopen a terminal06:54
yoink!tell yoink about ati06:54
Trashcanand type this06:54
jayrok06:54
Trashcansudo apt-get install fglrx-driver06:54
dougsk_jayr: that package is in the restrcited repository, afaik that's enabled by default06:54
Trashcantype it exactly like that06:55
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jayrok wait06:55
Trashcanthen it will ask for your password06:55
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jayrE: Couldn't find package fglrx-driver06:55
Trashcanyour repo's are fucked up06:55
wickedpuppylol06:56
Trashcan!tell jayr about repos06:56
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lightsourced06:56
lightsourcehow can I upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10??06:56
MadpilotPPCjayr, which version of Ubuntu are you running?06:56
Trashcan!tell lightsource about breezy06:57
jayr5.1006:57
graham!tell graham about breezy06:57
Trashcanapt-get chooses the correct package when you specify fglrx-driver06:57
Trashcan(that is, it picks the xorg driver instead)06:57
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Trashcanwtf07:01
jayrwat package do i need to get fglrx-driver07:01
Trashcan* matthew (n=matthew_@ip70-176-180-97.ph.ph.cox.net) has left #ubuntu ("Leaving"07:02
Trashcanmy name is matthew07:02
tritiumit's xorg-driver-fglrx, jayr07:02
_RB_heyas. having major trouble with mysqld. it stalls my bootup, so i want to know how to skip/cancel it while booting so i can get in to re-install mysql07:02
Trashcanand im 70.176.253.127.ph.ph.cox.net07:02
Trashcanthats fucking creepy07:02
_RB_anyone know how to get around this ?07:02
tritiumlanguage, please, Trashcan07:03
Trashcansorry07:03
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Doonzif i do the upgrade to breezy will it chjange  fstab and other files?07:03
jayri searched dat in synaptic no package found07:03
_RB_i cant get into do anything till i can get past this07:03
tritiumjayr, setup your repositories like ubotu told you07:04
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dougsk_RB_ mv /etc/rc2.d/s##mysql kmysql07:04
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dougsk_RD_ rather jsut change the S in /etc/rc2 to K07:04
jayrhmmm07:04
_RB_dougsk I cant get a shell. after the grub loader, it doesn't let me do anything and it just loads up till it gets to mysqld, which doesn't go any further07:05
jayrhow? and wat do i need to setup07:05
Trashcanjayr07:05
Trashcanubotu gave you a link07:05
ubotuTrashcan: I don't know, could you explain it?07:05
Trashcanclick the link07:05
Trashcanread the tutorial07:05
Trashcando what it says07:05
dougsk_RB_ isn't there a method to boot single user from the grub prompt?07:05
jayri dont know wat repository to add07:06
Trashcanuniverse07:06
Trashcanit should be in one of the ones already there07:06
tritium!info xorg-driver-fglrx07:06
ubotuxorg-driver-fglrx: (Video driver for ATI graphics accelerators), section restricted/misc, is optional. Version: 6.8.0-8.8.25-0ubuntu11 (hoary), Packaged size: 3110 kB, Installed size: 9940 kB07:06
tritiumrestricted ^^^07:06
Trashcanah, nevermind07:06
Trashcanrestricted :)07:06
_RB_nah. theres a standard boot, a recovery boot, which fails on eth0 media plugger or something, and a memtest, and two xp boots. thats the only reason i can get on the web07:06
Carpe_Libertatemafter I install fluxbox, how do I start it from cli?07:07
breakthestatestartx  ?07:07
dougsk_RB_ use edit and then pick your kernel and then append init=/bin/bash or somesuch shoudl probably get you in remount rw / once you have a prompt07:07
_RB_once i get a prompt i'll just apt-get the bugger off my system07:08
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mbpillaiuncommend the lines  1.  deb http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted   2. deb http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted and 3. deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restrictedricted  save the file issue the command apt-get update apt-get install      xorg-driver-fglrx07:08
Trashcanif ubuntu is meant to be an easy, more user-friendly distro, then why does it start vsFTPd and an SMTP daemon on a clean install?07:08
tritiumyou can edit the boot parameters in the grub console07:08
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Trashcanrather non-user-friendly to open holes right off the bat07:08
tritiumIt doesn't start ftpd of any kind, Trashcan07:08
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bob2tritium: it doesn't07:08
bob2er07:08
bob2Trashcan: no, it doesn't do either of those things07:08
kagingwhere could i see the pppoe.conf in ubuntu live cd?07:09
Trashcani scanned myself, 21 and 25 open07:09
_RB_k. i'll try that07:09
bob2Trashcan: because you installed vsftpd07:09
Trashcanon a clean install07:09
tritiumno way07:09
bob2Trashcan: and configured psotfix to listen on that07:09
bob2Trashcan: no, that is not the case07:09
Trashcanis that postfix on 25?07:09
_RB_will i have to munt before i can apt-get ? the last command it boot, and it is the one that eventually stalls07:09
dougskTrashcan, I think 25 is open to localhost so that hould be expected of scannning from the local, but I doubt 2107:09
Trashcan:\07:10
bob2Trashcan: presumably, but it only listens to things on the same machine by default07:10
Trashcanahh, ok07:10
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_RB_mount*07:10
dougsk_RB_, when booting single user the default is a read-only file system so you'll need to remount the partition containing /etc (ususally /) as writeable thus the remount07:11
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TrashcanYou guys must be right.. I probably picked an extra package or installed it in an auto-dep somewhere07:11
pbutterhey guys, is there a command i can type in to make it update to ubuntu breezy?07:11
bob2it's highly unlikely a change like that would slip through07:11
jayrafter adding the repository wat do i need 2 do?07:11
Trashcan!tell pbutter about breezy07:11
bob2it was decided before warty that nothing would listen by default07:11
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_RB_do i just put this instead of "boot", to ensure the kernel is in there etc ?07:11
Trashcana good decision for sure..07:11
bob2pbutter: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes07:11
pbutteris there any particular advantage to breezy?07:12
_RB_i'll have a bash at it anyway07:12
_RB_cyas07:12
_RB_hopefully not from xp07:12
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Carpe_LibertatemAck, how can I apt-get fluxbox on a server installation? Flux isn't in default repos?07:12
crimsunit's in universe.07:12
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breakthestateTrashcan: can you "tell" me about breezy too, (i have no clue about all these irc commands)07:13
Trashcan!tell breakthestate about breezy07:13
Trashcan:)07:13
Trashcanit's the ubotu bot07:13
Trashcanhe's freakin wikid07:13
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s3[mn] rainHi, I have dual monitors with two x servers 0.0 and 0.1, is there anyway to move a window from one to the other while it is open?07:14
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breakthestateholy $$#! that's cool07:14
bob2s3[mn] rain: no07:14
bob2s3[mn] rain: if you want that, use xinerama07:14
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Dr_Williss3[mn] rain,  hmm... you are the first to ask that :P that i have ever seen. Lol.07:14
TrashcanDoes anyone know of a good working NASM syntax file for gnome?07:14
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Trashcanfor highlighting in gedit07:14
breakthestates3: sure isn't, better just send me that other monitor, he he, jk, i'm not sure07:14
Tiggshow do i get java for ubuntu? firefox faills and it says i have to intall it manually07:15
breakthestatetrashcan: can you !tell me more about the ubotu bot?07:15
s3[mn] rainbob2: ive tried every  combo of dual monitors lol, this is the only one that does what I want, so I guess I just forfeit that benefit07:15
Trashcanbreakthestate: type /msg ubotu help07:15
jayri added the univers repositry07:15
jayrwat do i need to do?07:15
HappyFool!tell Tiggs about java07:16
bob2Trashcan: emacs can07:16
s3[mn] rainif you put a ball of tinfoil into a bottle of hydrocloric acid, then you get java07:16
jayrwer is this fglrx-driver07:16
ndisyi accidently changed my permissions in ubuntu and now cannot run anything requiring root as i get " Child terminated with 1 status" any help?07:16
iiiearsMay i "Borrow" a working smb.conf?   pastebin?07:16
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jayrwer is it located07:16
Trashcanbahhh emacs :p07:16
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mr_robotoTiggs: I don't know what the "right" ubuntu way is but I installed Sun's JDK and it works fine07:16
s3[mn] rainjayr: it should be in the ubuntu repositories07:16
iiiearsdo you have a link to a working config file?07:17
Trashcaniiiears: hang on07:17
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iiiearsWhew Thank You :)07:17
MadpilotPPC!tell breakthestate about ubotu07:17
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jayris dat the name07:17
jayrwen i search it thers nothing07:18
s3[mn] rainjayr: "fglrx"07:18
ndisyi accidently changed my permissions in ubuntu and now cannot run anything requiring root as i get " Child terminated with 1 status" any help?07:18
yoinkhey all, im having so much trouble getting backports working, and im sure my sources.list is right, any ideas?07:18
HappyFooljayr: are you following the ati page on the wiki?07:18
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Trashcaniiieas: http://trashes.pastebin.com/38027107:18
Trashcan/etc/samba/smb.conf07:18
Trashcanper default configuration07:19
HappyFoolndisy: how did you change your permissions?07:19
MadpilotPPC!tell yoink about backports07:19
iiiearsOutstanding - thank you.07:19
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ndisywith sudo chown -R07:19
HappyFoolof what?07:19
Trashcanno problem iiiears07:19
bob2yoink: questions like that should be accompanied with urls to pastebin's showing us your sources.list and apt output07:19
iiiearssometimes configuring everything by text is great powerful - other days it just plain confusing07:20
Carpe_LibertatemHow do I start xserver and flux?07:20
liberviscoI'm missing qtmlClient.dll for playing a mov file07:20
jayris it under xserver-xorg-driver-ati07:20
jayrX.Org X server07:20
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Trashcanso how exactly do things get added to the universe? is there a !tell about that?07:21
dallaswhat is the command to figure out which kernel version you are running?07:21
jayryes07:21
bob2Carpe_Libertatem: echo fluxbox > ~/.xsession ; startx07:21
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bob2Trashcan: /j #ubuntu-motu07:21
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bob2Trashcan: someone packages it, and someone from MOTU uploads it07:21
HappyFooldallas: uname -a07:21
liberviscoWhere could I find it? I tried searching in repositories (with synaptic) and google, but no luck07:21
bob2Trashcan: something not being in universe usually means it's crap, non-free or unpopular07:21
Trashcanahhh ok07:21
Trashcanthanks07:21
jayr@happyfool yes i followed it always return this wen i type in terminal Couldn't find package xorg-driver-fglrx07:21
jayr\07:21
Trashcanmasters of the universe :p07:21
Trashcannice07:21
bob2libervisco: that sounds highly unlikely to be in ubuntu07:22
ndisyany help HappyFool? i changed it with sudo chown -R07:22
HappyFoolndisy: what did you change?07:22
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bob2libervisco: go find a w32codecs .deb07:22
ndisymy usr folder07:22
jayrwhy is dis flgrx-driver07:22
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jayr missing07:22
Trashcanthis community rocks07:23
jayrwer is this located07:23
Trashcaneveryone is helpful07:23
Carpe_Libertatembob2, do you know the package name for the server?07:23
Carpe_Libertatem;-)07:23
Trashcanespecially bob07:23
HappyFooljayr: it's in 'restricted'; you need to setup your repositories07:23
Carpe_Libertatemxserver*07:23
bob2Carpe_Libertatem: server?07:23
jayrthe universe 1?07:23
mbpillaitry the command "apt-cache search  xorg-driver-fglrx07:23
HappyFoolndisy: hmm. ok, you'll probably need to reboot in rescue (or recovery) mode07:23
bob2jayr: ignore whatever web page you are reading07:23
liberviscobob2, ok.. thanks.. I'm looking for it now..07:23
ndisyand try sudo?07:23
HappyFoolno, sudo is in /usr07:23
ndisytry sudo in recovery?07:24
HappyFoolndisy: in recovery mode you'll be root07:24
HappyFoolndisy: i.e., no need for sudo etc07:24
ndisywhat should i do when im in?07:24
HappyFoolndisy: anyway, in recovery mode run 'chown -R root.root /usr'07:24
ndisyok07:24
HappyFoolthen reboot and hope for the best07:24
ndisythankyou07:24
jayr@mbpillai i typed it and return nothing07:24
MadpilotPPCbob2, the ATI wiki page doesn't have Breezy-specific info on it yet - I think that's what has jayr confused...07:24
HappyFooli'm not sure if every file in /usr is supposed to be owned by root, but that's about the best i can do -- i think there are over 100,000 files in /usr, so fixing manually won't work07:25
mbpillaijayr: modify /etc/apt/sources.list file  and issue the command "apt-get update"07:25
Dr_Willisheh - i just got ati working today on my X200m laptop with Breezy. took 3 min.07:25
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bob2if you screwed /usr, reinstall07:25
Trashcanhehe07:25
Carpe_LibertatemWhat is the package name for the Xserver?07:25
bob2and be way way way more carefulin future07:25
HappyFooltoo late, he left07:25
bob2Carpe_Libertatem: install x-window-system-core07:25
Trashcandr_willis: its fairly straightforward. Unfortunately my card is too old to be supported :)07:26
jayrok07:26
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Dr_WillisTrashcan,  last month mine was too new to be supported. :P07:26
Trashcan:p07:27
joetheoddHey, I just tried using JuK and it won't play at all.07:27
Trashcanthis is a junker laptop07:27
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Trashcancompaq armada m70007:27
Trashcanbut i got it free from microsoft, so its a linux box now :)07:27
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chavojoetheodd, try kicking it.07:27
joetheoddchavo: I'm afraid I'll hurt my toe. My box is made of metal, you know. =(07:27
chavojoetheodd, do you use gnome or KDE?07:28
joetheoddchavo: gnome07:28
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gpderr... wtf with the repositories?07:29
chavotry going to Settings -> Output To -> and then click Gstreamer07:29
s3[mn] raingpd: err? what do you speak of?07:29
jayr@mbpillai how do i modify the sources.list?07:29
crimsungpd: apache probably died again.07:29
gpdI seem to be getting connection refused on us.archive.07:29
StoneTablesame here07:29
joetheoddchavo: still nothing.07:30
Trashcanso do the devs actually come here?07:30
joetheoddStoneTable and gpd: I think their down.07:30
joetheoddjayr: sudo pico /etc/apt/sources.list07:30
crimsunTrashcan: yes.07:31
joetheoddTrashcan: I think they might, but its open tech support. I don't work for ubuntu07:31
breakthestateTrash: my favorite things are junker laptops, have three (didn't pay over $50 for any of them) and all linux boxes now07:31
mbpillaigedit /etc/apt/sources.list  (you should have root permissions for that)07:31
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Trashcan:D07:31
TrashcanI love the open-ness of linux07:32
joetheoddmbpillai: You might want to prepend messages with the name their targeted at, because most IRC clients give some notification if your name is said07:32
MadpilotPPC!tell jayr about repos07:32
Trashcaneven the communities are open07:32
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joetheoddDoes anyone here have experience with JuK not playing at all with both arts and gsteamer?07:32
HappyFoolndisy: after you left, bob2 recommended a reinstall07:32
Trashcanaye07:33
breakthestatei just got gmplayer working as a plugin in firefox, but am running into problems when streams are javascript links, any tips?07:33
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ndisyreinstall? can i keep any files?07:33
ormandjany ldap gurus around? i'm trying to design a nice setup and i've not used LDAP before from the administrative perspective, and want to make sure i'm not screwing up. i've got the o'reilly book but it turned out not to be such a huge help..07:33
yoink!tell yoink sources.list07:33
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ndisywill it save my settings?07:34
oblivian_nixxccc.rizon.neet07:34
yoink!tell yoink about sources.list07:34
HappyFoolndisy: no, you'll need to back your personal files up07:34
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ormandjoh yea, and the archives seem to be down again :P07:34
ndisyok, maybe ill just wait till breezy badger untill i reinstall07:34
ndisythanx anyway07:34
thoreauputic!tell yoink about sources07:34
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yoinkthoreauputic, thx07:34
thoreauputicyoink: np :)07:35
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joetheodd_wee07:35
joetheoddyo whats up self?07:35
joetheodd=)07:35
Trashcanwow07:36
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Trashcanan op07:36
Trashcan1 op out of 470 people... you must be proud07:36
joetheoddomg pheer.. op.. MUST.. /BOW!!!07:36
snausageshow can i create a new partition to backup my files?07:36
thoreauputicTrashcan: we hide most of the time ;)07:36
Trashcanhehe07:36
MadpilotPPCTrashcan, our ops tend to lurk...07:36
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joetheoddsnausages: Thats a big risky thing to do, asuming the space is already partitioned07:36
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ivoksuh07:36
Trashcanvery risky07:37
joetheoddsnausages: I asume you want to shrink a partition in order to make a new one out of its space?07:37
ivokslots of people07:37
Trashcandoes ubuntu have a built in partition-magic type app?07:37
Trashcanfor resizing07:37
yarddogwhy would i being get apt-get update, connection refused for breezy?07:37
snausagesjoetheodd yes07:37
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joetheoddsnausages: You probably want to go out and buy a 10GB disk, they're down to like 20 bucks07:37
fizdevhi, is it me or the repositories are down?07:37
HappyFoolyarddog: there have been reports of us.archive being down07:37
thoreauputicyarddog: it seems the us archive has issues ATM07:37
joetheoddyarddog fizdev: The repositorys are down.07:37
yarddogahhh, ok thx07:37
snausagesi was hoping i could ge by without investing money hehe07:37
ivoksthoreauputic: all archives07:38
fizdevalright, thanks07:38
joetheoddthoreauptic: Wanna put that in the topic?07:38
jayris the fglrx included in the xserver-xorg-driver ati07:38
thoreauputicivoks: oh really ? hmm07:38
vladuz976is there a documentation to ubuntu, something like redhat and novell has?07:38
ali4728courier-imap Port 143 wont respond to remote client even though firewall is open! Any idea why?07:38
none_-are the breezy repositories down?07:38
joetheoddsnausages: Well, I have extra disks laying arround =p07:38
joetheoddnone_-: Yes.07:38
HappyFooljayr: on hoary, it's in the xorg-driver-fglrx package; i don't know about breezy07:38
none_-danb07:38
snausagesjoetheodd you should dcc one to me07:38
none_-damn that is07:38
joetheoddsnausages: I mean physical hard disks =p07:39
jayri cant find it in breezy07:39
mbpillaijayr: no it is a seperate module07:39
snausagesjoetheodd haha i'm aware of that07:39
snausages=D07:39
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joetheoddsnausages: Hah, ok07:39
jayrcan u guide me how to get dat module07:39
jayrwer is it located or how can i get it07:39
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snausagesi guess im just gonna burn to cd07:39
joetheoddjayr: when the repositiorys are back up, you should do sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx in a console.07:40
joetheodder, sudo should be bold too, but oh well.07:40
breakthestatebut back to this partition resizing thing, is it possible on ubuntu? and what with?07:40
mbpillaijayr : switch to a direct chat07:40
joetheoddbreakthestate: Look into partition-magic. It can shrink a partition, but its risky07:41
joetheoddbreakthestate: What partition type do you use? ext3?07:41
mr_robotobreakthestate: you could try parted07:41
joetheoddbreakthestate: I'm pretty sure it supports ext2, but I don't know about 3.07:41
joetheoddbrb grabbing some sammichz~07:41
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nomasteryodajoetheodd, sure parted does.. since gparted is just a fancy frontend and can be installed in ubuntu07:42
nomasteryodaext3 support that is07:42
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zwnjsecurity.ubuntu.com refuses http connections.  what's the problem?07:43
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ali4728Help courier-imap Port 143 wont respond to remote client even though firewall is open! Any idea why?07:44
thoreauputiczwnj: servers are down - investigating07:44
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zwnjthoreauputic: uhu, thanks07:44
MadpilotPPCarchive.ubuntu and security seem to be down07:44
aeruderer... archive.ubuntu.com down?07:44
aeruderok, that answers that07:44
zwnjputting a note in the topic is good ;)07:45
difetai'm trying to update my sources, but I keep getting an error connection refused. Is something goingon?07:45
MadpilotPPCdifeta, repo servers are down...07:45
crimsunuse a mirror.07:45
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difetaMadpilotPPC, ahh man, is one of the mirros up?07:45
crimsunwiki.ubuntu.com/Archive07:45
Trashcanwoot... I made a change to the wiki07:45
TrashcanI feel helpful now :)07:45
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MadpilotPPC!+mirror07:46
ubotusomebody said mirror was repository mirrors can be found through http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive07:46
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nybblerepos down again?07:49
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rjordanAnyone else having trouble fetching packages? I keep getting... nvm....07:49
dmlinuxAnyone else having problems updating repositories??07:50
rjordannybble, I guess so...07:50
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rjordancan a mod update the topic pls?07:50
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hansare other scanner programs available than Sane, because Sane cannot find my scanner07:50
CruzBulliI have about webmin and apache2....07:51
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dmlinuxAnyone here experienced in bluetooth mice and Ubuntu?07:51
CruzBulliwhere is the "Path to httpd executable" ?07:51
Trashcandoesn't the sudo deal break webmin?07:51
CruzBullidoesn't help it07:51
Dr_WillisTrashcan,  i  think if you make a root user password - befor you install webmin - you will be ok.07:51
Trashcanah07:52
Trashcanalright07:52
difetaanybody  know of an apt source that has mythtv?07:52
Dr_Willisthe sudo deal also breaks a few other thigs I think. :P07:52
MadpilotPPChans, have you googled your scanner or checked the SANE homepage?07:52
Trashcanone would imagine ;)07:52
CruzBullihow do I do that? Sorry really newbie here07:52
Dr_WillisTrashcan,  some of the breakage is due to ubuntu guys being security paranoid. :P07:52
dmlinuxAnyone here experienced in bluetooth mice and Ubuntu?07:52
Trashcanhehe07:52
Dr_WillisTrashcan,  ever try the CUPS web interface yet?07:52
mikerheadbreezy's got mythtv07:53
Trashcanpersonally I like the sudo idea very much07:53
hansyes I have, my scanner is unsupported by Sane07:53
Trashcannope07:53
Dr_WillisTrashcan,  you can look but not change anything. :(07:53
TrashcanI found it strange today, I rebooted in recovery mode and was dropped to a root term !?07:53
dmlinuxAnyone else having problems updating repositories??07:53
hondjeThat's normal07:53
Dr_WillisHmm.. dident think it did that.07:53
zwnjhow i can setup a mirror?07:53
hondjeroot's not gone07:53
TrashcanI havn't set a root password yet07:53
hondjeyou can sudo -s and get a root shell too07:53
Trashcanand I wasn't planning on it07:53
hondjeYou don't need one :)07:53
Trashcanyeah hondje07:54
deFryskdmlinux, yes I changed http yo ftp and it worked fine again07:54
Trashcan(afaik sudo -i is cleaner, as it sets root env vars)07:54
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deFryskto*07:54
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Dr_WillisTrashcan,  i use the 'sux' command :P for my su'ing needs07:54
Trashcanlol07:54
hondjeI think the logic there is, if physical security is a concern, booting into root is low on the worry list07:54
Trashcanat least it's well protected from things like buffer overflows07:55
hansI am sorry, my scanner is NOT supported by Sane07:55
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gp_aaronwhat is up with the servers?07:56
rjordangod-zero, they are down...07:56
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Trashcanthe word around town is down07:56
glaucHey guys, whats a good cheap hardware SATA raid card?07:56
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mikerheadfr.archive.ubuntu.com seems to be up07:56
Dr_WillisThey are Down like .... somthing thats really down...07:56
CruzBulli"The Apache configuration file /etc/apache2//conf/httpd.conf does not exist."07:56
CruzBulliwhat is it giving me that?07:56
ormandjCruzBulli, because it doesn't exist? :) ls /etc/apache2/conf07:57
liablewell, as far as i can determine a sendmail entry in /etc/hosts.allow was fuxoring my exim local deliveries..07:57
liableoops07:57
CruzBulliok, but that doesn't work either07:58
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dmlinuxWhy is hidd-connect <address> giving me a HID create error?07:59
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fr33mindDo you have some problems to apt-get update?07:59
dmlinuxme? yes07:59
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fr33mindok I'm not alone so..07:59
Trashcanfr33mind: the servers are down08:00
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ksmurfIs there anyone using kubuntu here?08:00
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nybbleuse http://opensourcemirrors.org/ubuntu instead08:00
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nybblethats all i'm saying08:00
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fr33mindIs there mirror for security.ubuntu....08:00
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fr33mindI used fr.archive.... but for security?08:01
rjordanthe servers do seem to be up if you want to use ftp.08:01
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rjordanspeaking of which, anyone know where to put these downloaded packages so apt will install them?08:02
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markHey guys I am new to linux and, du, unbuntu. I messed up my synaptic when I tried to add multiverse / universe repositories. I get this amoung other similar errors. W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net_dists_hoary-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)08:02
nybblefr33mind: http://opensourcemirrors.org/ubuntu08:02
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nybblefr33mind: has them all08:02
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dmlinuxWhy is hidd-connect <address> giving me a HID create error?08:03
fr33mindgood thanks... ftp work ;)08:03
WinZmarcellus, the servers are down for a while08:03
WinZmark, the servers are down for a while08:03
hondjemark: the site is down, it's not you08:03
CruzBulliso where is the "Path to httpd executable" ?08:03
dewdwhat happened to the servers? any idea?08:03
rjordanCruzBulli, if it's in your PATH you can do which httpd to find out08:04
markWinZ and Hondje thanks for the answer. I was worried I was an idiot! Why are they down? Planned or crashed?08:04
CruzBullinot sure I understand that08:04
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rjordanCruzBulli, in a terminal type "which httpd" and it may print out the full path to your httpd binary08:05
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CruzBulliok08:05
jay-arr d ubuntu servers down?08:05
CruzBullithanks08:05
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gp_aaronths is bad08:06
gp_aaronI just turned a kid onto ubuntu08:06
Trashcanwhy is that bad08:06
Trashcan:D08:06
gp_aaronand now he's trying to set up08:06
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hondjesomeone should topic about the servers08:06
gp_aaronbut he cant08:06
Trashcanoh boy08:06
Trashcan:\08:06
rjordanare there any OPS?08:06
gp_aaroncause he can't install anything08:06
hondje!ops08:06
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, ops is Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth08:06
Trashcanright when the servers go down08:06
Trashcanthat sucks08:06
Trashcantell him to have faith :)08:06
blumerhehehe, well that answers the question I came in here for. :)08:06
hanscan somebody help with a parallel port scanner08:06
gp_aaronI told him, " look it is 2 am, go to sleep, try in the morning:)"08:07
Trashcanhehe08:07
jrattner1i know this is weird question to ask, does anyone know if you can watch live NFL games on the internet08:07
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Trashcanpff 2am... that's nothin!08:07
hondjejrattner1: off nfl.com?08:07
Trashcanjrattner: nfl.com?08:07
fabbione??08:07
hondjeIf so, yes you can08:07
markSo what is up with the servers?08:07
iiiearsmark,  this is a working sources list http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/38028608:08
=== ..[topic/#ubuntu:crimsun] : Yes, {us.}archive is down. Use http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive | Official Ubuntu Help channel | Colony 5 is out: http://tinyurl.com/85dry | Upgrading to breezy? http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes | Documentation: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation - http://doc.ubuntu.com | Use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl for pasting | Found a bug? http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com
rjordanmark, I DoSed them with my 1337 windows botnet.08:08
markiiiears, what is that for?08:08
fabbioneamen08:08
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fabbionemark: they are just down...08:08
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markrjordan, ha ha ha08:08
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fabbionenothing to be worried about08:08
rjordaniiiears, TY08:08
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iiiearsmark, - thought you said your sources list was munged.08:09
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Trashcan!tell me about colonies08:09
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markiiiears, I said I kept getting an error with synaptic and i was told it was b/c the servers are down. If I keep getting it when they come back up I will ask again08:09
hondje!tell me about colonies08:09
hondje!colonies08:09
ubotuhondje: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!08:09
markiiiears, thanks for the help though08:09
Trashcan!tell me about colony08:10
iiiearsah, okay. - grin08:10
hondjesarcastic little thing08:10
hondje!colony08:10
WinZ!help08:10
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, hondje08:10
jrattner1hondje, you can on NFL.com?08:10
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hondjejrattner1: yes08:10
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hondjejrattner1: you need to add things, though...default install won't let you08:10
hondjeSpecifically, the w32codecs package08:11
eythianhi, anyone know how to make kmail show up looking nice while running Gnome?08:11
jrattner1hondje, are you sure you can watch live feeds? I.E the jets game tomorrow08:11
Trashcan!+mirrors08:11
ubotuTrashcan: Do they come in packets of five?08:11
Trashcan!+mirror08:11
uboturumour has it, mirror is repository mirrors can be found through http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive08:11
gp_aaronhopefully the servers are up by tomorrow08:11
hondjejrattner1: I've never had a problem with the video on their site08:12
ormandjany reason the repositories are so unstable?08:12
gp_aaronI'd hate to see another user turned off cause it didn't work right away08:12
gp_aaronsadly I left ubuntu awhile back08:12
CruzBulliin webmin what file do they mean by apache "Path to httpd executable" I still don't understand08:12
hondjejrattner1: But I haven't watched a live feed in a long time, so if they changed to something really weird I can't guarantee it...but if you have all the video stuff installed, it 'should' be just fine08:12
hondjeI can guarantee it worked the last time I used it, last season08:13
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ormandjCruzBulli, tell it the location to apache's binary/executable08:13
jrattner1hondje, could you offer me a link, I have all the video stuff im just curious where to get the feed08:13
rjordanif you're in the midwest http://ubuntu.mirrors.tds.net/ubuntu/ is a good mirror.08:13
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blumerhey!08:14
blumerAre they working again?08:14
blumeroh, no ...08:15
hondjejrattner1: it was subscription only IIRC08:15
blumerI just forgot what I was doing. :\08:15
CruzBulli(ormandj) CruzBulli, tell it the location to apache's binary/executable sorry but where would I find that?08:15
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hondjethey're all hosted on some level3 farm though, so probably can get it if you know someone08:15
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jrattner1holycow, where can i subscribe08:15
ormandjif anybody is in hawaii i have a mirror i run :P08:16
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wickedpuppyCruzBulli, /etc/init.d/apache208:16
ormandjwickedpuppy, that's not the binary i think08:16
CruzBulliThe Apache configuration file /etc/apache2/conf/httpd.conf does not exist.08:16
CruzBulliso it's adding the httpd.conf08:17
wickedpuppyormandj, then how you start stop and restart apache2 from command line ?08:17
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ormandjwickedpuppy, in ubuntu, you use that init script you linked to.08:17
ormandjbut that's not the executable :P08:17
ormandjhttp://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/  <-- go here CruzBulli08:18
CruzBullithanks08:18
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MachineScrewcan any one tell me what happened with the mirrors08:18
crimsunarchive's back.08:18
Trashcanmachine: they were down08:18
MachineScrewthey back08:18
Trashcananyone hear a cause yet?08:19
crimsunapache2 down.08:19
crimsunanyhow, nothing to see, move along.08:19
iiiearsCruzBulli - check this out - a very sophisticated server setup made simple step by step.  http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2005-09-26-008-26-OS-HL-SV08:19
Trashcan:p08:19
Trashcan*removes mirror from repos*08:19
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Cicakmanis it only me that  http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net  repository is not working?08:19
aizattoUbuntu should have a website displaying the live status of repositories08:20
hondjenot a bad idea08:20
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CruzBullithanks a lot iiiears08:21
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cevizogluaizatto, why don't you write a bash script that does it...08:22
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ormandjcevizoglu, a bash script doesn't help everybody :)08:22
Trashcanheh08:23
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Trashcansomeone wanna give me a list of all the repos?08:23
cevizogluormandj, why, because some people have removed bash?08:23
kairu0anyone recommend or not recommend serpentine for making audio cd?08:23
ormandjcevizoglu, because a lot of users aren't sitting at console? :)08:23
aizattocevizoglu: because some people dont want to learn bash :)08:23
cevizogluormandj, then write a front-end for it too08:23
aizattoor dont want to use bash08:23
Trashcanjust do it in php08:23
Trashcangeeze08:23
Trashcan:p08:23
Trashcan!repos08:23
uboturumour has it, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96908:23
ormandjcevizoglu, why not just have a simple website that shows status. that's less work programming, more accesible, and no need to add more utilities to the repository08:23
ormandjbest solution for a job <-- ideal way to design08:24
aizattoyeah08:24
cevizogluaizatto, you don't have to know bash to know how to run scripts08:24
iiiearssh   don't tell everyone that. - grin08:24
cevizogluormandj, you really think a web site which does that is easier than a bash script?08:24
ormandjcevizoglu, let's make an example. user A sees update notification, user A clicks to start it, it bombs with errors. user A isn't going to fire up a term, nor know the path to a bash script to check port 80 responses on repository. user a's (most likely) first response will be to visit ubuntulinux.org and check for news/status/etc08:25
ormandjcevizoglu, and yes, maybe 5 lines of php would work? about the same as 5 lines of bash script?08:25
ormandjwith 10 you could make it record history even, ohhhh ;)08:25
hondjethere, filed it as a feature request for the ubuntu website :)08:26
aizattowoot08:26
ormandjcool hondje :) maybe i'll go write something in a few mins to do it08:26
CruzBullithanks for the help08:27
cevizogluormandj, only five lines?  should take you only a few minutes then.. care to show me these five lines?08:27
ormandjno problem CruzBulli, best wishes!08:27
ormandjcevizoglu, yes, as i said i think i will in a few mins :) i'm eating ATM08:27
cevizogluormandj, ok, I'll wait here...08:27
iiiearsWindows Users... Linux Community08:27
aizattowell then how about having both a bash script and a webpage for it :) and on the webpage you can link to the bash script08:27
hondjeyou' dneed a long line for all the country codes to substitute in *archive, but it wouldn't be a big script08:27
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hondjeIt'd be nice on a webpage08:28
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hondjethat way when someone comes in here having problems, and no one else is using their countries repos (not unreasonable), we can look and narrow down the problem08:28
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iiiearssomeone might refresh the page repeatedly and slow the server?08:29
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brownie17can someone tell me a program for converting avi to mpeg?08:29
PsyBortdoes anyone know the command to check the kernel version?08:29
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ormandjcevizoglu, actually, how convienent. php's website had a simple little example already written! whee ;)08:30
dmlinuxi need some help guys08:30
ormandjbrb while i go make some changes08:30
hondjelol08:30
CruX_hi which is the fastest wau to install nvidia drivers ?08:30
hondjePsyBort: uname -a08:30
hondjeCruX_: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx08:30
hondjethen edit the xorg.conf file08:30
PsyBortthanks hondje08:31
CruX_manualy ?08:31
CruX_damn ok08:31
dmlinuxEverytime i try to connect to my Bluetooth mouse, it says Permission denied, or no host, or connection refused08:31
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eythianCrux_: unless your monitor params are misdetected, you don't need to edit xorg.conf08:31
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dmlinuxanyone deal with BT mice here08:32
hondjeCruX_: there's a way to magically do it, but I don't trust it08:32
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dmlinuxEverytime i try to connect to my Bluetooth mouse, it says Permission denied, or no host, or connection refused08:32
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dmlinuxwhats the problem?08:32
dmlinuxit was working this morning !08:32
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ppcguyhey all08:33
dmlinuxhey08:34
ppcguyhow goes it dmlinux?08:34
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PsyBortanother question, output says 2.6.8.1-3-386 . from that whats the version and whats the build ie. confused about the -3-386.08:35
brownie17how do i convert AVI to mpeg. is there a seperate support channel for video editing and shit?08:35
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hondjePsyBort: 3 is a build thing, unimportant, and 386 means it's x86 version08:35
dmlinuxEverytime i try to connect to my Bluetooth mouse, it says Permission denied, or no host, or connection refused, does anyone know what this means !08:35
hondjeare you using warty, PsyBort?08:35
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dmlinuxsorry for repeat, just need a answer08:36
ormandjcevizoglu, http://files.corenode.com/ubuntu/08:36
ormandjdone08:36
dmlinuxah what the hell, its working now.. wtf08:36
ormandjit'd be trivial to add a small loop to test all repositories08:36
ndazzahi! i'm trying to get the binary ati drivers working. I've followed the instructions on the wiki but I can't get direct rendering to work08:36
ormandjand also make the messages user friendly08:36
iiiearsbrownie - i have heard some people use kino for editing. - have yet to try it.08:36
cevizogluormandj, so how many lines of code?08:37
hondjedmlinux: glad to have helped ;-)08:37
ndazzain Xorg.0.log there are these two lines: (EE) fglrx(0): [agp]  unable to acquire AGP, error "xf86_ENOMEM"08:37
ndazza(EE) fglrx(0): cannot init AGP08:37
ormandjminus all html, 1008:37
ormandjand i could easily fit it in 508:37
brownie17iiiears, for some reason it is giving me errors when i try to open a video file!08:38
ormandjnow, your turn. write a bash script which checks if port 80 is responding to a proper html 1.1 request for us.archive.ubuntu.com08:38
cevizogluormandj, good job... I've been thinking about this, though.. shouldn't the updater just tell you that the server is down?08:38
hondjeit does08:38
hondjepeople just don't read error messages, they freak out and think they broke something08:38
cevizogluhondje, but shouldn't it also try to find another server for you?08:38
iiiearsI wish i could offer you more help...08:38
hondjehrm08:38
cevizogluhondje, but apt-get doesn't..08:39
hondje /etc/apt/mirrors or something08:39
ormandjcevizoglu, it's a possibility for the future of course, make a suggestion08:39
hondjethat'd be a good thing08:39
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hondjendazza: googling implies that's a bug within the ATI code08:40
ndazzahondje: ok thanks, I might try the latest version from the ATI site. I've read so many forum posts with no luck whatsoever :(08:40
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eythianIs there a nice way to get all the updates that have been put out since (say) Hoary was released? Just the updates, and not the stuff already on the CD. I'll probably be upgrading my folks to Ubuntu, but they have a bad net connection, and me posting or bringing a CD every once in a while would be a better way.08:42
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ormandjeythian, check for file changes between cd from hoary and cd from breezy, and copy those over?08:43
iiiearsCLI tool to see bandwidth used in real time?08:43
hondjeeythian: easy way, sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get -d dist-upgrade on a clean install from a hoary CD08:44
ormandjer, sorry misread. check for file changes between cd from hoary and repository from hoary now08:44
eythianhmm. You mean diff the online repositories against the install CD? I suppose that would work.08:44
hondjeeythian: then copy all the .debs from /var/cache/apt/archives08:44
none_-ah.. repositories are back online08:44
ormandjeythian, well if you are trying to build an "update" cd, yes, do that08:44
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eythianhondje: unfortunately, that's not really an option. it would require keeping my desktop in pretty close sync with theirs.08:45
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hondjeoh, for more than just once then....do they have broadband?08:45
eythianyeah, effectively an update CD.08:45
dmlinuxHow do you change permissions on a file so that it is executable ??08:45
eythianhondje: no, they have hourly-metered 20k on a good day, drops out every 30 minutes dialup.08:45
eythianHence the need :)08:46
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hondjean interesting problem08:46
eythiandmlinux: chmod +x file08:46
aizattoeythian: you can have them mirror your apt repository on your computer lalso08:46
cevizoglueythian, what you're looking for is apt-zip, I think08:46
iiiearsinteresting one line bash script upgrade info http://www.linuxforu.com/yabbse/index.php?board=11;action=display;threadid=107408:46
eythianmy computer is 2.5 hrs drive away :)08:46
eythianhmm. apt-zip looks like what I need, looking at the summary. Cheers cevizoglu.08:47
hondjethat's pretty neat08:48
cevizoglueythian, yw08:48
eythianhrm, any idea why I'm getting a lot of: "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!" from apt-get?08:49
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ppcguyhey all, not to jump in here, but is there a good resource for getting all things flux working with ubuntu?08:49
hondjeeythian: backports?08:49
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maethe new menu log is wicked cool!08:49
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eythianI don't _think_ so. it claims to be in section universe/admin, tho I do have backports in my souces.list08:50
PsyBorthow do u link the kernel source to the modules directory?08:50
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dmlinuxhow do i change a file to be executable if chmod +x <file> doesnt work08:50
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brownie17is sourceforge a linux only website?08:51
PsyBortrather how do u link the modules directory to the kernel source?08:51
HappyFoolPsyBort: you probably want to install the linux-headers-386 package08:51
aizattodmlinux: why doenst it work?08:51
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aizattobrownie17: no08:51
hondjebrownie17: no08:51
hondjemicrosoft has stuff on sf08:51
ormandjwhere is epiphany? is it not in the default install?08:51
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hondjeormandj: nope :(08:51
dmlinuxaizatto it says operation not permitted, i have no idea why it doesnt work08:51
bz0bhey guys08:51
calvinquestion for anyone, is it poaab le for a bad processor to fry a motherboard08:51
hondjedmlinux: how is it not working?08:51
cevizogludmlinux, use sudo08:51
bz0bwhat program plays m4p format?08:51
HappyFooldmlinux: what does 'file filename' tell you?08:51
Yagisancalvin: yes08:51
PsyBorthappyfool, where can i find this package?08:51
aizattodmlinux: try using `sudo chmod +x <file>`08:51
dmlinuxooo08:51
hondjewhoa, lagfu08:51
HappyFoolPsyBort: should be on the CD08:51
PsyBorttick.08:51
HappyFoolPsyBort: err, at least i think so08:51
PsyBortill check08:52
dmlinuxgotcha thanks all , brb08:52
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ppcguyPsyBort. apt-get install epiphany works fine08:52
bz0bhey, does anyone know what media player plays m4p format?08:52
calvinthen is it possable for that same motherboard after that happening fry a processor?08:52
hondje!tell bz0b about restricted08:52
aizattobz0b: vlc08:52
brownie17hondje, when sourceforge says it is a repository, does that mean it is a repo i can add for ubuntu through /etc/apt/sources.list?08:52
hondjebrownie17: that's not what they mean08:53
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Yagisancalvin: I don't know - couldn't afford a new cpu to test08:53
aizattobrownie17: nope, its a repository for free and open source projects, repository being a place meaning like a holding location08:53
PsyBorthappyfool, can i use synaptic to install the headers package?08:53
brownie17hondje, how can i search through sourceforge for only lniux programs?08:53
HappyFoolPsyBort: yip08:53
PsyBortcheers08:53
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calvinso basicly I just need to return everything and start over?08:54
YagisanYagisan: I'd be inclined to think - yes - it is possible for the broken M/B to damage a new CPU08:54
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HappyFoolPsyBort: make sure you install the version for your kernel (i said -386; might be -686 or something else)08:54
hondjebrownie17: the odds are that if it's a fairly well developed project and not something made in two nights by a drunk CS student, it's included in the ubuntu repositories...and secondly if it's on sourceforge, the odds are it'll run on linux anyway :)08:54
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PsyBortthanks for the tip happy.08:54
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Yagisancalvin: I'd be inclined to think - yes - it is possible for the broken M/B to damage a new CPU. Try to get an exchange08:55
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calvinmy sinareo is that my computer stopped, bought a new motherboard, didn't work, boutght a new processor, didn't work, bought new ram, didn't work, replaced power supply, didn't work and bypassed power button08:55
TachyonI'm trying to get Ubuntu to print over a wireless network to a printer that's hooked up to an XP machine.  Yet no matter how I configure the printer, it can't "connect to the host," hence I can't get it to print anything.08:55
ppcguyI would have returned the original long before doing all that calvin08:56
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Yagisancalvin: what CPU ?08:56
calvinDuron 1.8 g08:56
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calvinreplaved with athlon xp 260008:56
brownie17hondje, ok so, if i found a thing called mjpeg/linux square, and it is a compilation of different programs, which one would be a video editing program out of the following, "driver-zoran", "MainActor plugin", "mjpegtools", "mmx jpeg", "mpeg2dec-mjpegtools"?08:56
hondjenot a clue :)08:57
Yagisancalvin: did you make sure you where electrically grounded before installing the CPU ?08:57
opensourcehow do i enable ssh in this distro?08:57
calvinyes, I have a static strap08:57
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hondjemmx jpeg sounds like mmx optimizations to read jpegs faster, mpeg2dec sounds like a converter (usual in linux when you got '2' in the name), etc08:57
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bam_anyone know some decent ipod software?08:58
HaNaziranyone else having issues with gaim disconnecting the whole time?08:58
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brownie17hondje, so i want to convert an avi file to an mpeg file, know what i could do?08:58
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HappyFool!tell opensource about ssh08:58
bz0bso when i pay this royalty fee, is it for each song?08:58
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hondjeuse transcode?08:58
Yagisancalvin: you didn't accidently crack the cpu core on installing ? (athlon/duron cores are rather fragile)08:59
bz0bhondje, what08:59
bz0bnvm08:59
hondjenot for you, for brownie17 :p08:59
bz0b:P08:59
Yagisancalvin: No overheating issues ?08:59
calvindidn't touch it at all08:59
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calvinnot a bit08:59
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brownie17hondje, ok thankyou08:59
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ksmurfhow do you check for how fast your proc is running in terminal?08:59
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calvinI have sensors in my case to monitor that and none were outsie spec09:00
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HappyFoolksmurf: cat /proc/cpuinfo09:00
ksmurfthanks09:00
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hondjeI also hate watching ffmpeg and mplayer build....horrors09:01
Yagisancalvin: OK, just trying the usual culprits first09:01
yapycckyhello everyone09:01
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dallasI am having some issues installing an ATI driver, anyone good with ATI cards under ubuntu?09:01
PsyBorthappyfool, im having troulble finding the linux-headers-386 package on the cd, some guidance pls09:01
yapycckyi still didnt fix the problem i have with ethereal with my ubuntu09:01
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yapycckyit seems to be impossible to run it09:01
yapycckyi always have a error message09:01
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HappyFoolPsyBort: let me start synaptic...09:01
ksmurfHappyFool That tells me whet  it can do.  I want to see what freq it is running at right now...09:02
hondjeyapyccky: run it from a terminal, or edit the menu entry to have it use gksudo instead of gksu09:02
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HappyFoolksmurf: ah, sorry, don't know09:02
yapycckyhondje: i run it from terminal but i always get a "cound not set capabilieties " error09:02
PsyBortkay09:02
HappyFoolPsyBort: when you say 'having trouble', what do you mean?09:02
hondjeoh :o not the 'need root!' error09:02
HappyFoolPsyBort: is it not in synaptic's package list?09:02
PsyBorturm, i cant spot it09:02
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hondjeyapyccky: are you using hoary or breezy?09:03
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HappyFoolPsyBort: you're running hoary, right?09:03
yapycckyhondje: that's a good question...could u tell me how to check it??09:03
HappyFoolPsyBort: that is, ubuntu 5.04 ?09:03
hondjeyapyccky: cat /etc/issue09:03
PsyBorthappy, i really dont know...how do i find that out, and whats the difference09:03
dallasI installed the ATI drivers and my glxgears performance went down... anyone got any ideas?09:03
ormandjbbiab09:04
ksmurfHappyFool cat /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/throttling09:04
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yapycckyhondje : breezy badger09:04
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Belutzdallas, are you on hoary or breezy?09:04
HappyFoolPsyBort: how did you install ubuntu?09:04
HappyFoolksmurf: ok, cool09:04
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dallasBelutz, 5.04 sorry don't remember the name09:04
deFryskdallas, glxgears is NOT a benchmarker09:04
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hondjeyapyccky: do a dist-upgrade, and if that doesn't fix it I'd recommend filing a bug in malone09:05
PsyBortdistro came on cd in PC Authortity, slaped in it and cd-room booted into a installation menu09:05
Belutzdallas, you could use proprietary ati drivers, let me find the links09:05
mr_robotoopensource: get the package, apt-get install ssh09:05
HappyFoolPsyBort: ok, what does 'System -> About Ubuntu' say?09:05
dallasBelutz, that is what I am using09:05
brownie17HappyFool, if he doesn't know, chances are its hoary09:05
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yapycckyhondje : ok thx so much.09:05
HappyFoolPsyBort: should be 4.10 or 5.04 or 5.1009:05
hondje /etc/issue tells version, too09:06
dallasBelutz, for some reason it is seeing the card as unkown and on the PCI bus09:06
opensourcemr_roboto i do have it installed i just get port 22: Connection refused error09:06
Belutzdallas, make sure you follow this steps and please read the thread till the end http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3249509:07
liberviscoHello.. Does anyone know of a program that can convert ogg to wawe files?09:07
dallasdid that09:07
hondjewhat's a wawe09:07
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tristanmikei think he meant wave...09:07
HappyFoolfile full of animations of hands moving09:07
hondjeoh, dur :)09:08
tristanmikejust helping to clarify ;)09:08
Belutzdallas, did you copy the fglrx.ko into your home directory?09:08
HappyFoologg123 will do it from cli (vorbis-tools package, i think)09:08
mr_robotoopensource: what does this command tell you?   netstat -a |grep ssh09:08
dallasBelutz, no...09:08
hondjegqmpeg is a gui for it I think09:09
liberviscoHappyFool, ok, thanks09:09
cevizogluwawe: the warped wave editor?09:09
Belutzdallas, well i suggest you read that forum thread's till the end09:09
hondjelol09:09
dallasBelutz, I am gonna install UT 2K4 and see what kind of performance I am realy getting.09:09
hondjewhy would you want to convert from ogg to wav?09:09
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calvinwhat program can I use to play WMv files in ubuntu09:09
calvin?09:09
Belutzdallas, my glxgears performance is about 2000fps using ati mobility 960009:10
hondjexmms is popular09:10
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dallasBelutz, as in all 12 pages? or just the OP?09:10
Belutzdallas, and my fgl_glxgears is about 300fps09:10
hondjeI use beep media player, more, but rhythmbox is also nice, totem, banshee, amarok...09:10
opensourcemr_roboto tcp 0  0 *:ssh    *:*   LISTEN09:10
opensourcetcp        0      0 ::ffff:192.168.1.1:ssh      ::ffff:192.168.1.79:53799   ESTABLISHED09:10
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yapycckyhondje : should i reboot machine after dist-upgrade?09:10
Belutzdallas, follow the first post, if you have problem, find it in the next thread09:10
hondjeyapyccky: if it upgraded your kernel (or says to), I would09:11
renedoxhas anyone been able to get mpd working on ubuntu?09:11
yapycckyk09:11
mr_robotoopensource: what is that connection from 192.168.1.79 that is currently running?!09:11
dallasBelutz, okay I will go through it again09:11
Belutzdallas,  :)09:12
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opensourcehondje lol09:12
opensourcemr_roboto im sshed into a server but cant scp any files to my system09:13
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mr_robotoopensource: well for christ's sake... you said it wasn't working!09:13
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opensourcemr_roboto ups sry my bad09:13
zack_i have a strange java problem09:14
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mr_robotoopensource: when you say you "can't scp"  what EXACTLY is going wrong?09:14
zack_i have java ubuntu package installed... but everytime i load a webpage with java it will crash firefox or konquer09:15
opensourcemr_roboto it says "ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.79 port 22: Connection refused"09:15
TachyonCan anyone help me with my printer problem? :(  I'm trying to add a printer that's connected to my XP machine, but no matter what method I try, it's not working.  Samba refuses to add the printer at all, Unix LPD adds it but can't connect. . . .09:15
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mr_robotoopensource:  well ummmm stupid question but did you, in fact, enable the server on THAT host?    you are running the server on 192.168.1.109:16
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mr_robotojust run scp from 192.168.1.79, not the other direction09:17
opensourcemr_roboto i had no problem doing it when i was running fedora, so i'd imagine it would be the same09:17
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zack_anyone else have problems with firefox or konquer and jre 1.4.3 or w/e it is09:17
mr_robotoopensource: scp needs to talk to an ssh daemon. if one isn't running on ...79, it's not going to work09:18
B_166-ER-Xwhere can i find CEDEGA ?09:18
mr_robotowhat is 192.168.1.79?  another linux machine?09:18
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hondjeyou can scp to and from a box running sshd, so if you can't do it from that box, you're using scp wrong09:19
crtrB_166-ER-X, http://www.torrentspy.com/search.asp?mode=torrentdetails&id=379294&query=debian+09:19
B_166-ER-Xhm09:19
PsyBorthappy, head caved in, sorry i couldnt find the version u were looking for.09:19
PsyBortpls explain where agian09:19
iiiearstransgaming is the organisation they offer a $5 per month subscription - simple install or a free version no point2play from their CVS servr - difficult install09:19
iiiears!cedega09:19
ubotuhelp for cedega is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/index.php?title=Main_Page09:19
opensourcemr_roboto 192.168.1.79 is my machine and im trying to transfer some files from 192.168.1.1 how would i enable the ssh deamon? i can connect to the server via ssh just cant transfer any data09:19
mr_robotohondje, you have to be sending the scp request TO the machine running the server09:19
kongnamoolwhen upgrading from Hoary to Breezy, has anyone seen this?09:19
kongnamoolUnpacking xrgb (from .../xrgb_0.99.0-5_i386.deb) ...09:19
kongnamooldpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xrgb_0.99.0-5_i386.deb (--unpack):09:19
kongnamool trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/showrgb', which is also in package xutils09:19
kongnamoolErrors were encountered while processing:09:19
kongnamool /var/cache/apt/archives/xrgb_0.99.0-5_i386.deb09:19
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hondjeyeah, but if you can scp to the server, you can scp from it09:20
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discipleofyeshuahello09:20
kongnamoolI am not finding hints in the forums or on Google09:20
opensourceB_166-ER-X u got aim?09:20
discipleofyeshuaanyone here?09:20
mr_robotoyes, but the scp client has to be talking TO the server.    in other words, if i have an scp client on my windows machine, that does NOT mean i can be on my linux box and scp to or from the windows machine09:21
mr_robotothe other direction would work09:21
mr_robotothat's why i'm asking09:21
B_166-ER-Xyeap, Gaim, in fact09:21
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hondjeoh, I see what your'e saying09:21
opensourcemr_roboto their both linux boxes09:21
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mr_robotoopensource: go to 192.168.1.79 and do the same netstat command09:22
zack_i need help ... eveytime i load a java app my broswer crashes ;x09:22
mr_robotoopensource: what does it say?09:22
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renedoxhas anyone been able to get mpd working on ubuntu?09:22
opensourcemr_roboto i also do this from a gentoo box, i just had to do /etc/init.d sshd start and it worked, the output i gave you was from 1.7909:22
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opensourcemr_roboto ups im wrong lemme get that for u09:23
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calvinhow do I install decoders for totem to play WMV files?09:23
mr_robotoopensource: no it was not09:23
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mr_robotoopensource: because 79 was the remote address09:23
opensourcemr_roboto yes you are right im confused already one sec09:23
fahimhi guys09:24
fahimcan anybody tell me with which command I can delete a folder?09:24
Trashcanrm -r folder09:24
hondjermdir, rm -rf foldername if it's not empty09:24
gsuvegre09:24
Trashcanor rm-rf folder09:24
rjordancalvin, install gstreamer0.8-plugins09:24
gsuveganybody use ubutnu-lite ?09:24
fahimahh thx :)09:24
discipleofyeshuahello?09:24
discipleofyeshuaanybody on tonght?09:24
discipleofyeshuatonight09:24
discipleofyeshuacalvin... i am wondering the same thing about MP3 files and CDR disks, and DVD's09:24
calvinwhere do I get taht and how do I install it09:24
discipleofyeshuabut especially MP3's i cant get them to play on totem or the sound player09:24
calvinnew to ubuntu09:25
Trashcanopen terminal09:25
discipleofyeshuaoh yah, me too09:25
zack_same09:25
opensourcemr_roboto tcp     0      0 outcast:53799    192.168.1.1:ssh   ESTABLISHED09:25
opensourceunix  2      [ ACC ]      STREAM     LISTENING     10229    /tmp/ssh-TZTFca7303/a gent.730309:25
mr_robotoopensource: even if you don't have the server running on 79, if you are ON 79, you can scp to or from 1.109:25
Trashcansudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins09:25
zack_wtf why does java apps crash meh firefox!09:25
mr_robotoopensource: ok the server isn't running there, that's why you can't scp FROM 1.109:25
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gsuvegdiscipleofyeshua: tonight ? im drink my morning kaffe ;)09:25
Trashcan:D09:25
mr_robotoopensource: just go to 1.79 and do your scp there   (to or from 1.1)09:25
Trashcanwoot woot kaffee09:26
opensourcemr_roboto oh without logging in to the server?09:26
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calvinhow do I do that?09:26
sobersabrehi, is there a way to add gswitch it plugins ?09:26
Trashcancalvin09:26
mr_robotoopensource: well of course you're going to have to log in unless you're doing public key authentication09:26
gsuvegTrashcan: mea culpa. tooo morning is. im me install a server. broaf09:26
sobersabrei want flags to apear instead of letters.09:26
sobersabreon gnome panel09:26
mr_robotoopensource:   i mean  just do soemthing like     "scp <myfile>  <user>@192.168.1.1:<mydir>09:27
discipleofyeshuawhats that gsurveg? who are you and what are you saying about coffee? are you in alaska?09:27
TrashcanApplications->Accessories->Terminal09:27
Trashcanand type this09:27
Trashcansudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins09:27
opensourcemr_roboto well i ment without sshing into the box09:27
Trashcanthen type your password09:27
Trashcanand press enter09:27
hondjealaska is at like 10pm09:27
mr_robotoopensource: you don't have to ssh in first09:27
opensourcemr_roboto i'll try that right now09:27
mr_robotoopensource: or the other dir will work too   "scp <user>@192.168.1.1:<mydir>/<myfile> ."   for example09:28
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gsuvegTrashcan: but other os ad leenux09:28
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Trashcaneh?09:28
calvinthere is no "terminal" there09:28
Trashcanhoary?09:28
gsuvegTrashcan: a freebsd server with jails ;)09:28
gsuvegbut please dont k-line me09:29
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Trashcanon hoary: right click desktop, Open Terminal09:29
dallasBelutz, I looked at the link on that post and the first file the other post says to copy isn't on my machine anywhere.09:29
Trashcangsuveg: you lost me at 'Trashcan:'09:29
gsuvegpardon ?09:29
opensourceB_166-ER-X give me ur email i'll get it to you within the next hour09:29
mr_robotois switching from hoary to breezy as simple as 'sed s/hoary/breezy/g sources.list' ?09:29
Trashcanits pretty damn simple09:29
gsuvegdiscipleofyeshua: no. im in hungary. you know where is ?09:29
discipleofyeshuaok, i am in alaska, but does anyone know why i cant get mp3's to play on my system? i have ubuntu latest release09:29
mr_robotoand then doing a dist-upgrade?09:30
Trashcanyeh09:30
discipleofyeshuaoh, i see09:30
Trashcanwhat the tutorial says, work09:30
Trashcans09:30
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Kuoliomr_roboto: I've heard, and experienced my self, that dist-upgrade is not working proper :(09:30
gsuvegdiscipleofyeshua: you can read on ubuntufaq09:30
discipleofyeshuai do know where that is, Jah bless09:30
Kuoliodiscipleofyeshua: check this out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats09:30
Trashcankuolio: what problem did you have? :s09:30
B_166-ER-Xthe mp3 maybe doesnt work at a high latitude ?09:30
mr_robotokuolio: my system is working great now... wondering if i should try to switch to breezy :)09:31
calvintrashcan: found it in the system menu, thanks09:31
gsuvegTrashcan: im use bsd on servers09:31
lancellorgood night everybody how do i do togdesklets start with ubuntu09:31
discipleofyeshuawill they really tell me though?09:31
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Trashcanwow, i had no idea mp3 was a fee format?!09:32
discipleofyeshuaok, i will check that out09:32
Trashcanweak09:32
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Trashcanand 75c, ugh09:32
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cevizogluTrashcan, mp3 isn't a free format09:32
discipleofyeshuaenjoy your morning coffee...  i love mine with organic homade half and flaf... :)09:32
cevizogluTrashcan, hence the existence of ogg09:32
Trashcan:)09:33
TrashcanI know, I said 'fee format'09:33
gsuvegdiscipleofyeshua: you can play mp3 as other format on you linux09:33
lightsourceWhere can I find a guide on how to mount my other partition.09:33
Trashcanie. pay a fee to support it09:33
vengeful_i had that too09:33
Trashcan!tell lightsource about mount09:33
discipleofyeshuadoes anyone know how i can load new software that isnt on the "add remove programs" list???09:33
cevizogluTrashcan, oh, I see  :)   fee format09:33
gsuvegTrashcan: the ogg is better but cant play it on mp3 player like ipod and friends :(09:33
Trashcan:(09:33
vengeful_installed various media players09:33
discipleofyeshuathen why wont they play do you think?09:33
vengeful_no idea which one fixed it for me09:34
gsuvegmy good musics in ogg, what else ;)09:34
Kuoliomr_roboto: well, it can work by doing dist-upgrade, but you might be better of to have a clean install cd for breezy, just in case... and backup everything valuable before doing anything else :)09:34
vengeful_installed 4 at once09:34
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Trashcandesciple: breezy? go to System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manger09:34
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discipleofyeshuashould such a common thing as an MP3 codec have come with the installation CD? is the problem that i have to DL it?09:34
mr_robotoopensource: that working ok now?09:34
Trashcandesciple: did you not read the article? MP3 is NOT a free format09:34
cevizogludiscipleofyeshua, it's not included because mp3 isn't free09:34
Trashcanand won't be supported09:35
Kuoliodiscipleofyeshua: it's a propietary software, you'd have to pay to have it on installation cd09:35
lancellorwhen i turn my computer off and i reboot desklets don't pop up i have to run gdesklets again09:35
Trashcanthe reason microsoft can play it is because they pay for it09:35
vengeful_wait till you try and copy mp3s to cd :-P09:35
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zack_wtf why does java apps crash meh firefox!09:35
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cevizogluzack_, you're starting to sound like a spambot09:35
Trashcanlol09:35
Trashcan!+mirror09:36
ubotumirror is probably repository mirrors can be found through http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive09:36
zack_lol09:36
zack_i havent even send it 5 times09:36
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discipleofyeshuatrahscan, why do the programs say they can play MP3 formatt, if its not legal?09:36
discipleofyeshuatrashcan09:37
zack_xmms owns disasm09:37
zack_discipleofyeshua,09:37
Trashcannot sure, descriple09:37
discipleofyeshuaor free09:37
discipleofyeshuathat is09:37
wrabbit01Hi.... I have downloaded and "installed" the latest java but am now confused as to how I enable(or install) the actual plugin09:37
wrabbit01Can anybody help?09:37
wrabbit01Help files aren't helping at the moment09:37
zack_^ wrabbit01  i have the same problem09:37
gsuvegwrabbit01: and its on in ff plugins ?09:37
mr_robotowrabbit01: you get it from sun?09:37
zack_it just crashes my browser09:37
gsuvegfunny09:37
wrabbit01mr_roboto: yes09:38
wrabbit01gsuveg: no idea if it's on.  Don't know how to enable plugins09:38
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wrabbit01gsuveg: can't find any options in menu09:38
mr_robotowrabbit01: ok, do this09:38
zack_can i do it too i think i have the same problem :)09:38
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mr_robotowrabbit01: in your ~/.mozilla/plugins dir make  a link09:39
iiiearsmp3 format is patented and the rights to use it in products costs money. BIG money.09:39
tensorwhat's a good alternative for nautilus cd-burner for burning iso images?09:39
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mr_robotowrabbit01: libjavaplugin_oji.so -> /usr/local/java/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so  (or wherever you installed it to)09:39
Cashelhowdies..09:39
gsuveghttp://ubuntuguide.org/ <<09:39
gsuvegwrabbit01: ^ here is a howto09:39
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Alex_BOHELLO!How can I extract only a specific file from a tarball?09:40
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BiSK-8hello09:40
wrabbit01I'm in the dir.. how do I create the link?  Still finding it hard to use console09:41
opensourcemr_roboto omg we did it :)09:41
BiSK-8i have a problem with gtkpod, it tells me that the itunesDB is missing, what can i do?09:41
mr_robotoopensource:  congrats :)09:41
iiiearsAlex - open the tar with file roller (right click) and extract anything.09:41
opensourcemr_roboto thanks man sry if gave u hard time09:41
mr_robotowrabbit01: ln -s <location of plugin.so> .09:41
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Cashel(WW) Ignoring request to load module GLcore09:42
Cashel  ... this seems to be the only problem, yet its enough... Tryin to get fglrx prop drivers to work, same method I used in Hoary doesnt seem to be working in Breezy...  can anyone help?09:42
mr_robotoopensource: np... hopefully you understand how it works now :)09:42
jrattner1when is breezy OFFICIALLY released?09:42
wrabbit01I'm using breezy... will this make a difference?09:42
Alex_BOiiiears, i would like not to depend from gui09:42
crimsunjrattner1: 13 Oct09:42
iiiearstensor - opinions vary but most like either gnomebaker or k3b09:42
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jrattner1crimsun, so 11 days09:42
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adam_hello all09:42
crimsunjrattner1: or thereabouts.09:42
adam_anyone want to help me with a quick question?09:42
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MadpilotPPChow do I get Nautilus (in Hoary) to behave more like WinExplorer? I can't get used to the damned odd way the default Nautilus works, with windows popping up all over...09:43
mr_robotowrabbit01: the cmmand to create the link is kind of like cp (copy)   you "ln -s <source> <dest>"09:43
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adam_anyone get alc850 drivers to work in ubuntu?09:43
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wrabbit01ah, right.  Thanks for that.09:43
adam_or how do i install a .run file?09:43
locomortoMadpilotPPC: don't worry your not alone09:43
none_-adam_, chmod +x file ./file09:43
zack_adam09:44
locomortoMadpilotPPC: Go into the options/prefrences09:44
zack_sudo sh blahblah.run09:44
locomortoMadpilotPPC: In there somewhere is a option for web view09:44
adam_ah09:44
adam_kk09:44
locomortoMadpilotPPC: Enable that09:44
locomortoMadpilotPPC: then on the panel that comes up on the left hand side of each window09:44
locomortoMadpilotPPC: Click at the top of it, and change to tree09:44
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Alex_BOhalo?it seems there isn't an answer for me09:45
locomortoMadpilotPPC: Thankfully nautlius sucks a whole lot less in breezy09:45
locomortonone of this spatial crap anymore09:45
MadpilotPPClocomorto, Options/Prefs where? Nautilus seems to have no Options menu...09:45
BiSK-8i have a problem with gtkpod, it tells me that the itunesDB is missing, what can i do?09:45
adam_damnit09:46
locomortoMadpilotPPC: It should be at the top09:46
hansi_xpHello, i was wondering if someone has experienced slow web browsing scrolling?09:46
locomortoMadpilotPPC: Under edit or some such09:46
locomortoMadpilotPPC: I'll check the wiki09:47
jrattner1is flgrx standard in breezy09:47
jrattner1like will it detect im using ATI and use the appropriate drivers?09:47
tensoriiiears, thanks, will try both09:47
Casheljrattner1, not for 3d no09:47
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adam_i didnt install the kernel source files...09:47
graigfor some things i like spacial, and for some i like web view.09:47
locomortoMadpilot: what options are under edit and view?09:47
MadpilotPPClocomorto, got it sorted - you have to choose the "open in browser view" option...09:48
graiglike when you are dealing with lots of files and folders, copying files around and moving files to other folders, spacial rules.09:48
jrattner1Cashel, what do you mean not for 3d?09:48
Casheljrattner1, you using hoary?09:48
graigbut when you just wanna navigate your folders, webview seems better.09:48
locomortoMadpilot: ah good, I'm sorry i was so vauge09:48
jrattner1Cashel, yes09:48
mr_robotowrabbit01: that is all i had to do. applets work fine for me in firefox now09:48
MadpilotPPClocomorto, so the default in Breezy is going to be tree/webview rather than that damned spatial?09:48
adam_which do i use to get the source files for the kernel?09:48
locomortoMadpilot: It just I havn't used gnome 2.10 for a while now09:48
Casheljrattner1, you have to go through all the same shit in breezy to get 3d acceleration working...09:48
locomortoMadpilot: YEs09:48
graigeww treeview?09:48
adam_ot it09:49
graigso you won't be able to see the icons?09:49
adam_got it09:49
jrattner1hoary doesnt like me09:49
locomortoMadpilot: Only one windows09:49
jrattner1it wont work09:49
hansi_xpi was wondering if someone could give me some suggestions as to why web browsing scrolling slow. i think video driver but installed nvidia.09:49
locomortograig: it stats out with icons09:49
Casheljrattner1, and, having just gone through all that crap again, its not working for me so....09:49
locomortograig: you can go view -> view as list09:49
MadpilotPPClocomorto, hallelujah and other things... I've always disliked the lots-of-windows navigators, like MyComputer in Windows09:49
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locomortoAnd it behavious much like MAC OS X then09:49
graighey locomoto, are you using xchat?09:50
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locomortograig: yes09:50
linnerhey ya'll09:50
graighow do you send a tell?09:50
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locomorto/msg <person name> <message>09:51
iiiearshansi_xp - glxgears  will help narrow things down a bit. what does it say?09:51
locomortoOr right click on there name09:51
locomortoOpen dialog window09:51
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locomortoThen its much like another channel09:51
locomortoAlso if they reply back then you get a window opended as well09:51
discipleofyeshuawhere do i download a program that will play Mp3 files on my ubuntu?09:51
MadpilotPPC!tell discipleofyeshua about mp309:52
NsOmNiAcdiscipleofyeshua : xmms09:52
[drunk] logicdiscipleofyeshua, sudo apt-get install xmms09:52
all4nhey people..  I'm just wondering whether it is hard (possible?) to set up the different virtual desktops in gnome to have individual resolutions..  any ideas?09:52
locomortoNsOmNiAc: actually its gstreamer0.8-mad09:52
hansi_xpiiiears: it's roughly at 2147 fps09:52
Belutzbeep-media-player09:52
discipleofyeshuawhats that?09:52
discipleofyeshuai am sorry, i am very new to linux... where do i go?09:52
locomortoI think xmms still uses gstreamer09:52
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locomorto!mp309:53
ubotuI guess mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support09:53
MadpilotPPCdiscipleofyeshua, follow the URL that ubotu just sent you, that'll walk you through installing media codecs09:53
locomortoOr the one just there ;)09:53
jrattner1discipleofyeshua, type xmms09:53
opensourcemr_roboto thx again, im gone09:53
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discipleofyeshuathank you very much09:54
mr_robotoopensource:  ok man    have a good one09:54
MadpilotPPCjrattner1, xmms isn't installed in Ubuntu by default...09:54
adam_ok guys....09:54
adam_i need some help09:54
lightsourcewhat is the command to see what drives I have? like hda1 and hda2 and sda1.09:54
adam_i cant get my sound working09:54
all4nlightsource, "sudo fdisk -l"09:54
adam_and i have ran the sudo sh NFORCE blah blah09:54
iiiearshansi_xp that sounds okay09:54
adam_it says it cant find the kernel source tree09:54
adam_when i go to install them09:55
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adam_suggestions?09:55
twystedyou need to apt-get the kernel sources i belive :)09:55
adam_i used synaptic09:55
adam_to do it09:55
jsteidlthats the same :)09:55
HappyFooladam_: try linux-headers-386 before installing full source09:55
wickedpuppyadam_, in synaptic ... search for kernel source09:55
jrattner1MadpilotPPC, my bad09:55
adam_im using a6409:55
HappyFoolok, linux-headers-amd6409:56
locomortolightsource: sudo fdisk -l or use the system resource viewer (but that latter only shows mounted)09:56
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adam_and i installed everything under what said source09:56
adam_then i logged off, and logged back in09:57
adam_and it still wont install09:57
adam_same error09:57
lightsourceok, well I found the different devices, and... which one holds my pictures if its on my windows???09:57
adam_im just going to up date.... and see if it fixes it09:58
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graiglightsource, if you just installed windows, that probably means your windows drive is not mounted.09:58
adam_i just dont have sound... pain in the butt09:58
lightsourcewell I have already mounted one drive, but I forgot to save the chat and now I don'tknow how to mount the drive again...09:59
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lightsourcelike I've got my music drive mounted, now I need my pictures drive monuted.09:59
graigahh.09:59
graiglet me see if i can find a link.09:59
lightsourcek thnx09:59
MadpilotPPC!+mount10:00
ubotusomebody said mount was the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives10:00
eythiananyone know how to get random desktop picture changes in gnome?10:00
graigare they ntfs drives?10:00
Belutz!tell lightsource about windowsdrives10:00
iiiearslocomorto - handy automount script. check out ubotu's link.10:00
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iiiears!ntfs10:00
ubotuhmm... ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.10:00
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locomortoiiiears: ?10:01
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wrabbit01Alrighty... it's not working.  I've created the symbolic link to the plugin but it's not showing up in about:plugins.  It's not working at all.10:02
wrabbit01I think I'm missing something10:02
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calvinI am still having problems playing WMV files, can anyone help?10:04
graigwhat have you tried sofar calvin?10:04
calvinnot sure10:04
graigdid you try xine-totem?10:04
calvinnew to ubuntu graid10:04
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graigand windows codecs?10:04
calvinhow do I install the codecs and where do I get them?10:04
Alex_BOHELLO! Why if I write "tar -t tarball.tar" nothing happens? I'm sure tarball is not empty10:05
graigi get partial support like that, some wmv files dont work still, but some videos will work.10:05
calvinhow do I install the codecs?10:05
graigyou can get the codec's at this site,  http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html10:06
HappyFoolAlex_BO: try 'tar -tf tarball.tar'10:06
MadpilotPPC!+w32codecs10:06
ubotuit has been said that w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy). 64-bit? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5439910:06
calvinand how do I install it10:06
MadpilotPPCcalvin, see ubotu's post just above ^^^10:06
Alex_BOHappyFool, I'm stupid.tnls10:06
Alex_BOHappyFool, I'm stupid.tnks10:06
BelutzMadpilotPPC, why you use + after ! ?10:06
graigoh wow, get the deb up there, that should make it real easy.10:07
calvinwhat do I do with the file when I download it>10:07
MadpilotPPCBelutz, it forces ubotu to post the longer !tells to the channel, rather than in /msg to the person who requested it10:07
iiiearssudo dpkg -i your.deb should install it.10:08
BelutzMadpilotPPC, oh i see :)10:08
calvingraig: what do I do with the file once it's downloaded10:08
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adam_i still cant get my sound to work after the update... anyone want to help me?10:08
Belutzcalvin, sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb10:08
adam_i have the driver file10:08
wrabbit01Whoooooo, it works. :)10:08
vengeful_ubotu..think you could help me with something? Ubuntu is the only distro so far that i can use for my laptop(inspiron 6000) debian, centos, fedora, freebsd, mandriva all leave me with an unusual gui due to my graphics chipset....ubuntu works perfectly but i see there is an update available in xorg..think if i update il have probs?10:08
wrabbit01Took a while but thanks for the help10:08
adam_and i ran it. but it says it cant find the source tree10:09
adam_i have installed everything under source in synaptic10:09
HappyFoolvengeful_: ubotu is a bot ;). updates *should* be safe, but there's no guarantee10:09
adam_ubotu, kernel source tree10:09
ubotuadam_: Did you get hit by a windmill?10:09
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vengeful_oh im dim10:09
Dalikanyone have a problem where you move a window and you get a fuzzy sound from the speakers?10:09
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crimsunadam_: what's the issue?10:09
vengeful_i thought it was a guru of some sorts hehe10:09
DalikI do know that its not the sound because it happens if I mute the sound10:10
Dalikit happens in linux and windows10:10
adam_i cant get the driver files from nvidia to find the source tree10:10
HappyFoolvengeful_: nah, he's just cheeky10:10
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vengeful_i think il stay as i am for now till it gets official support10:10
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vengeful_as it works ok :-)10:10
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adam_crimsun, i cant get the driver files to find the kernel source tree10:10
adam_crimsun, and i have installed all files under source...10:11
crimsunadam_: what are you trying to get working?10:11
adam_crimsun, my sound10:11
cevizoglu!bot10:11
ubotuI'm a bot, I'm a bot. Set fire to me, I'll get hot. Reply to cevizoglu? I think not. Bot, jot, chicken... rhyming sucks.10:11
cevizoglusee, he is kind of a guru  :)10:11
vengeful_ok i see what you mean10:11
MadpilotPPC!botsnack10:11
ubotuthanks madpilotppc :)10:11
HappyFoolvengeful_: in general you should use the latest available package provided by the ubuntu archives10:11
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calvinBelutz; I put that in but it can';t find the package10:11
inc|freakyis there any possibility of configuring acpi using KDE?10:11
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inc|freakya GUI frontend10:12
crimsunadam_: lspci -v|grep -i audio10:12
graigwhere did you download the file calvin?10:12
calvindesktop10:12
crimsunhang on, brb, getting a drink.10:12
calvinwhere should it go10:12
graigok. open a new terminal calvin.10:12
calvinok10:12
graigtype cd Desktop10:12
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calvinok10:13
graigthen sudo dpkg -i win32  then hit tab10:13
calvinthings being case sensative is something I'm getting used to10:13
graigyeah hehe.10:13
adam_ok, it says nvidia... so i guess it istalled?10:13
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bbrhello10:13
adam_crimsun, it says nvidia... so i guess now, i have something else wrong10:13
graigtab should complete the rest of the filename, then it should install.10:13
twystedadam, make sure your sound isnt muted :)10:14
calvinit just beeks at me10:14
graigwhen you hit tab it beeps?10:14
calvinyeah10:14
graigtype LS  but lowercase10:14
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calvinLS?10:15
vengeful_ls heh10:15
graigits like the dos dir command.10:15
graigbut ls10:15
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graigit should list the files on your desktop.10:15
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calvinI just typed in thw whole file name and it worked10:17
calvinthanks graig10:17
graigyep.10:17
bam_why does gtkpod say im disconnected when i am not10:17
graignow theres one other thing you gotta do calvin.10:17
graigyou gotta install totem-xine.10:17
graigits in synaptic.10:17
bam_and how do i display my library on the computer?10:17
calvinthose are already on my system10:18
calvindoes that matter?10:18
graigif you already have totem-xine  (not totem-gstreamer) then you should be able to play wma files right now.10:18
calvinI have totem and I have xine, is that the same thing?10:19
graigyes.10:19
graigtry opening the video or wma file in xine now.10:19
Chousukenot really.10:19
Chousukeyou need the totem-xine totem installed if you want to use the xine engine in totem.10:19
calvinit works, thanks10:19
graigyep.10:20
vengeful_see..i hang here...you pick up loads of useful stuff :-D10:21
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graigyeah you do hehe.10:21
Alex_BOis there a way to see the transfer's percent with the command mv?10:22
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eythianAlex_BO, nope. I often use rsync --progress if I need to see it.10:23
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twystedwb calvin10:23
calvinthanks10:24
calvingraig: I have no sound10:24
crimsuncalvin: lspci -v|grep -i audio10:24
Alex_BOeythian, okey.tnks10:24
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calvincrumsum: I have sound from the computer but not from my WMV video files10:27
graigare other videos giving sound through mplayer?10:27
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adam_this sucks10:28
calvinit's through xine and yes10:28
twystedwhat does adam10:28
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adam_crimsun, i got the sound to work10:28
adam_i cant get xmms to install10:28
graigi had some problems with certain wmv videos, some wont play, and some play perfectly.10:28
crimsunadam_: sudo aptitude install xmms10:29
adam_and my apt-get doesnt work for some odd reason10:29
calvinhow do I install MPlayer-1.0pre7try2.tar.bz210:29
Kuoliograig: wmv9 is very problematic :(10:29
adam_haha10:29
adam_forgot install cmd10:29
adam_haha10:29
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adam_its 4:30 am.... im tired... and just woke up10:29
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hansi_xpcalvin. i think you gotta bunzip it first.10:30
graigcalvin, it looks like that would be the source code archive.10:30
calvindid that, how from there?10:30
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crimsuncalvin: enable the multiverse repository, then sudo aptitude install mplayer10:30
hansi_xpuntar it?10:30
hansi_xpno don't do that!10:30
hansi_xpi had big arse troubles installing mplayer from there!10:30
calvinsudo apitude?10:30
adam_crimsun, it says could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open10:30
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crimsunadam_: something else has it open, like Synaptic, apt-get, ...10:31
hansi_xpin the #mplayer channel, i was told to compile it10:31
crimsunadam_: so close it.10:31
Belutzadam_, maybe your synaptic is still running?10:31
adam_device manager... duh10:31
adam_haha10:31
hansi_xpit was the only way i got it to work10:31
sagar_how can i get the opengl development files/10:31
sagar_?10:31
graigsearch synaptic for them sagar.10:31
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adam_nothing has it open10:31
crimsunhansi_xp: that's great. You sure can compile it if you want. We don't support self-compiled packages, thanks.10:31
hansi_xpcrimsun: that's funny. mplayer being don't support compiled packages10:32
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adam_synaptic...10:32
crimsunhansi_xp: sounds like a catch-22, eh?10:32
PsyBortdoes anyone here know where i can find a 1.3.x version of ndiswrapper?10:32
graigcalvin  give totem-xine a try before you try compiling xine.10:32
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calvinso whast my next step10:32
hansi_xpcrimsun: i had problems with it.10:32
calvinI don't know how to compile anything10:32
hansi_xpcalvin: read the help with mplayer10:33
graigit might not even help if you compiled it.10:33
adam_hmmm10:33
calvinI'm a windows operator, fish out of water here10:33
crimsunadam_: dpkg -l w32codecs|grep ^ii10:33
adam_i got it10:33
adam_crimsun, i got it bud...10:33
adam_thanks10:33
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crimsunadam_: version?10:33
adam_crimsun, now i just have to figure out how to mount my drives10:33
adam_crimsun, ver of what?10:33
crimsunadam_: err, sorry.10:33
hansi_xpcalvin: are you trying to install mplayer?10:34
crimsuncalvin: dpkg -l w32codecs|grep ^ii10:34
adam_oh10:34
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calvinyes10:34
hansi_xpcalvin: did you find the readme?10:34
calvinno10:34
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Mars__^Hi I have big problem. After i installed Opera, my internet connection is very slow (browsers) i cant open any website. But thunderbird and xchat works good. Maybe it is because of that there were some errors during installing Opera? Maybe you could tell me how to uninstall it? I installed it with: sh install.sh (i cant uninstall t using dpkg -P opera)10:35
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crimsuncalvin: what's the output from the command I gave you?10:35
calvin/home/calvin/Desktop/EMC Monkey Movies10:35
calvinwhoops10:35
twystedMars> youll have to contact Opera support, since you installed it from source10:35
calvinii  w32codecs      20050216-0.0   win32 binary codecs10:36
spiralhi10:36
Mars__^Ok thanks10:36
hansi_xpcalvin: http://mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/README10:36
twystedyour welcome10:36
hansi_xpcalvin: you have to download the codec too if you want to compile it yourself10:36
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hansi_xpcalvin: and like 10 other development files too, using synaptic10:36
hansi_xpcalvin: it's not easy, compared to win xp.10:36
adam_ubotu, tell me about mounting drives on the desktop10:37
MadpilotPPCMars__^, why can't you install from one of Opera's .deb files?10:37
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HappyFooladam_: ubotu's factoids are usually single words10:37
HappyFooladam_: what do you want to do?10:37
MadpilotPPC!+mount10:37
ubotumount is probably the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives10:37
calvinDrimsum, do you have any help with the output text10:37
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Mars__^MadpilotPPC, I had a problem cause i am noob:)10:38
adam_ubotu, tell me about windowsdrives10:38
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MadpilotPPC!+opera10:38
ubotumethinks opera is a very powerful and speedy web browser with a superfluity of features while placing stress upon visual aesthetics. Opera isn't in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and get more information at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser10:38
AnkhWeaselHow do you move a program from one section of the Application panel to another? (In GNOME - from Other to Games..)10:38
twysted!windowsdrives10:38
ubotusomebody said windowsdrives was Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically10:38
MadpilotPPCMars__^, see the ubotu post a few lines up, and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser for next time10:38
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calvincrimsum?10:39
crimsuncalvin: looks fine to me10:39
calvinok10:39
MadpilotPPCMars__^, but I have no idea how to get rid of your current install of Opera, if you installed from source10:39
crimsun(you have to spell my nick correctly if you want it to trigger my highlight)10:39
Mars__^Funny, I hope i will uninstall it10:40
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adam_why does cd's not natively read in ubuntu?10:40
twystedyou mean mount adam_?10:40
MadpilotPPCMars__^, you could ask on Opera's own forums, there's a very good group of people there10:41
adam_yea10:41
adam_twysted, yea10:41
adam_its weird... i try to open a cd, and it errors10:41
adam_tells me it cant read it10:41
twystedoh like that10:41
twystedi wouldnt know about that :)10:41
Mars__^O another problem, i am installing nvida drivers and when i write: sudo gedit /usr/share/applications/NVIDIA-Settings.desktop: but it writes that there is not command called getdit. What is proper one?10:41
adam_gedit10:42
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Mars__^sudo: gedit: command not found10:44
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adam_ok that was weird...10:44
adam_as long as i use my cd rom instead of my dvd burner, my audio cd plays10:44
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aburletMars__^, do a sudo `which gedit` your file10:44
Mars__^what you mean?10:45
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MadpilotPPCMars__^, simpler check: type "man gedit" at a prompt, please10:45
Lethargic17i can't get my networkadapter work on ubuntu10:45
Lethargic17can some1 help me?10:45
aburlettype: sudo `which gedit` /usr/share/applications/NVIDIA-Settings.desktop10:45
aburletLethargic17, what kind of adapter ?10:46
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Lethargic17this is the readme on the driver cd: http://users.skynet.be/info-seefeld/README10:46
Lethargic17a US Robotics network adapter10:47
aburletethernet adapter ?10:47
Lethargic17yes10:47
linnerthere has never been a time when I can into this channel and did not see less than 400 people.... it's wild10:47
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IceDC571does airport extreme work on linux yet?10:47
squid0linner: yes, wow10:47
Mars__^mars@lunar:~$ man gedit10:47
Mars__^No manual entry for gedit10:47
aburletLethargic17, that kind of adapter usually work out of the bo10:48
linnersquid0, :)10:48
aburletbox10:48
Lethargic17it doesn't :s10:48
poningruMars__^: did you delete anything?10:48
poningruit shows up fine for me10:48
MadpilotPPCMars__^, that's very odd - gedit is installed by default in Ubuntu, and so is the man page10:48
aburletLethargic17, is it the only adapter ?10:48
Lethargic17yes10:48
aburletLethargic17, how is your network setup, static ip or dhcp ?10:48
Lethargic17dhcp10:48
Mars__^I didnt delete anything, what schould i do now?10:48
Lethargic17it works on my other pc with ubuntu10:49
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aburletLethargic17, if you do an "ifconfig -a" do you see a line with eth0 ?10:49
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eythianwhy is postfix a required thing in the install, and not just any mail thing? (e.g. I'd like to replace it with nullmailer)10:49
shinuis there any program that can do a file integrity check and fix the file index for me?10:49
poningruMars__^: do other pages give the sam prob?10:49
shinui messed up some files....10:49
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Lethargic17i don't see eth010:50
Lethargic17only lo and sit010:50
MadpilotPPCMars__^, try a couple other default man pages?10:50
aburletLethargic17, I guess your adapter is a PCI adapter ?10:50
Lethargic17yes10:50
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linnerdoes anyone have a link to where I can find what will be changed with the final version of 5.10?10:51
Lethargic17can't i just use the driver on the cd like it is explained in the readme?10:52
Raskallis the login on shipit.ubuntu.com broken? Can't login even if I know I use the correct password. Tried the "Forgotten your password" too, but I am unable to login10:52
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aburletLethargic17, you have ubuntu right ?10:52
Lethargic17yes10:52
aburletLethargic17, the driver should be included10:52
Lethargic17this driver isn't included10:53
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soxfunhi10:53
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soxfunan easy question10:53
rjordanLethargic17, What type of NIC?10:53
Lethargic17on my other pc, the network adapter was recognised automatically10:53
Plebeuzdriver forwhat?10:53
Raskallahh.. got in now. Guess it's a delay in the reset password thing10:53
soxfunthe name for the wmv codec in ubuntu? I really have tu use wmv....10:53
Lethargic17Plebeuz: network adapter10:53
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PlebeuzLethargic17, just set the modprobe10:54
aburletLethargic17, oh yes, I read too quickly, did you try to compile the given driver ?10:54
rjordansoxfun, gstreamer0.8-plugins10:54
twystedLethargic17: do you know what kind of network adaptor it is10:54
mbpillaiLethargic : sit0 is a runelling device(virtual)  you might have installed pptd10:54
Lethargic17i have tried "sudo modprobe r8169" but it doesn't work10:54
Plebeuzso the modprobe is worng10:54
Plebeuzwrong*10:55
mbpillaiLethargic:  issue command ps ax | grep pptd10:55
Plebeuzor the kernel doent have it, then u must compile the driver10:55
Lethargic17how must i exactly use this commands?10:55
twystedgigabit network card10:55
Lethargic17yes10:55
Lethargic17i have the linux driver on cd10:55
Mars__^o maybe thats because i am using kubuntu?10:55
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Mars__^:(10:55
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Lethargic17but i just don't know haw to install it10:56
Mars__^o and i reasding tutorial how to install nvidia drivers, but i checkegd and i dont have /usr/share/applications/NVIDIA-Settings.desktop10:56
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PlebeuzLethargic17, easy, ./configure make and make install10:56
Plebeuzafter try reboot your system10:56
Plebeuzthen lspci10:56
Mars__^MadpilotPPC, thanks but can you tell me what exactly you mean?10:56
squid0hi10:56
Lethargic17i don't understand it :s10:56
Plebeuzand see if ur hardware is showing in the list10:56
Mars__^And question will i open Enemyterritoru.run ?10:57
squid0does anyone have a straight-forward method/suggestion for setting up MIDI on ubuntu?10:57
PlebeuzLethargic17,10:57
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PlebeuzLethargic17, to instal10:57
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PlebeuzLethargic17, in line comand go inside the directori10:57
Mars__^ok i will restart my X maybe it will help10:57
PlebeuzLethargic17, directory*10:57
PlebeuzLethargic17, then type ./configure10:57
ExcHello all. I'm trying to install ubuntu and having some issues. Searched the forums, but couldn't find anything.10:58
PlebeuzLethargic17, aftare that type make10:58
twystedwhats going on Exc10:58
sobersabreExc, which issues are you having... or you mean you're sneezing ?10:58
PlebeuzLethargic17, after*10:58
PlebeuzLethargic17, then make install10:58
kikinovakHi gang. I'm a Slackware veteran and I want to give Ubuntu a try. Q1: how do I manage to install Ubuntu _without_ GRUB... as I already have several distros on several partitions?10:58
sobersabreissue, issue.10:58
sobersabreoops10:58
Lethargic17must i go to the directory where the driver is located?10:58
sobersabrepardon.. i've sneezed.10:59
ExcWell for some reason Kubuntu, Ubuntu (both i386 and AMD64) stop installing at 'Installing Pakages' 85% "Preparing for installation"10:59
squid0anyone know how to setup midi?10:59
Plebeuzkikinovak, i use slack to, just try to set the botable partition to slack then configure lilo10:59
twystedkikinovak if you do a expert install it should let you choose to install grub or not10:59
ExcI'm on an Athlon 64, 1gb of ram, msi Nforce 4 mobo.10:59
sobersabreExc, there are 4-5 other virtual terminals you can access with Alt+F1,2,3,4,5 when you're installing.10:59
sobersabresoxfun, seee if there is a more meaningful message on which there was a failure...11:00
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sobersabrehmm.11:00
shinuhow do i force delete a directory no matter what?!11:00
kikinovaktwysted OK I'll check that11:00
sobersabresoxfun, you have a very auto-completing nick.11:00
Excsobersabre: OK, good plan. I'll take a look.11:00
twystedkikinovak, good luck :)11:00
kikinovakPlebeuz I wouldn't think that's a good idea.11:00
shinui keep on getting: rm: cannot lstat `great teacher onizuka//.$ $ $ $. $': Input/output error on a directory i messed up...11:00
Plebeuzkikinovak, why?11:00
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D4rKHowLhey... i'm a ubuntu newbie user... and got a problem during startup of the ubuntu program, How do I switch display modes because the defualt mode of the ubuntu installation just display a video mode overrange... HELP dudes!11:01
sobersabreExc, if you see the problem is with reading the CDROM.. you're either have a scratched CD or old CDROM drive.11:01
Plebeuzkikinovak, i use that way :P11:01
adam_ok, how can i change my screen resolution? it wont let me go any higher than 1024x76811:01
Plebeuzkikinovak, if ur expert u can configure ur lilo well11:01
sobersabreadam_, which display do you have ?11:01
D4rKHowLhey... i'm a ubuntu newbie user... and got a problem during startup of the ubuntu program, How do I switch display modes because the defualt mode of the ubuntu installation just display a video mode overrange... HELP dudes!11:01
crtrhow to check if my sound card is not working ?11:01
Lethargic17Plebeuz, the configure command doesn't work:s11:01
twystedPlebeuz, kiknovak is gone ;)11:01
Lethargic17what do i wrong?11:01
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ExcAH! You're great, friend. Its waitng for me to tell it to go ahead with the installation of an untrusted package on another virtual terminal!11:01
shinuD4rKHowL: dont repeat. if someone knows, they will answer you. youre not alone here11:02
adam_ati 9800 pro matched with a viewsonic e90fb11:02
sobersabrecrtr, try to play a file... if you don't hear anything, maybe the card isn't working..11:02
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sobersabreadam_, is it a CRT or LCD ?11:02
adam_crt11:02
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D4rKHowLsorry11:02
sobersabredo you have its manual, adam_11:02
sobersabre?11:02
adam_no11:02
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sobersabreadam_, do you have a computer ?11:03
Mars__^:[11:03
adam_haha11:03
Mars__^id doesent work11:03
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Mars__^O adam czesc :)11:03
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D3vINmy bipolars at its peak / im a demented freak/ fascinated by fat blonde with dimpled ass cheeks/11:03
crtrha ha11:03
D4rKHowLis there any boot parameters to have a resolution of just 1024*76811:03
ExcOh snap, I spoke too soon. Agreeing didn't actually start the installation process again.11:03
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sobersabreadam_, google on your monitor model, and read which horizontal and vertical syncs it can work with.11:04
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mrchicagohey11:04
adam_yes, that is what i chose in installation, i just need to know how to change that11:04
Mars__^so what can i do if ther is no manula entry to gedit11:04
Mars__^?11:04
sobersabrethen go into file /etc/X11/xorg.conf and set them as you've found.11:04
adam_on windows i run it at 1600x120011:04
mrchicagois it possible to set up a site to sell linux cds11:04
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sobersabreadam_, are you happy with windows ?11:04
athlonanyone know when we'll get the updated mozilla-thunderbird package ?11:04
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adam_not really, thats why i am dual booting11:04
Trashcanmaking money off other people's free stuff11:04
MadpilotPPCmrchicago, it's already been done11:04
adam_i only use windows for games now11:04
sobersabrethenuke, ... hmm.. do as i say.11:04
Trashcanwhat a great plan11:04
Trashcan:(11:04
MadpilotPPCYou can even buy Ubuntu CDs on EBay, which is fairly evil11:05
sobersabreTrashcan, what are u talking about ?11:05
Trashcanselling linux CDs11:05
mbpillaiLethargic17: try issuing command /etc/init.d/pptd stop11:05
graigwhen i look at the firestarter log,  when somethig is in the log, does that mean its blocked?  some are red, and some are black.11:05
sobersabreTrashcan, I know places in Russia where there's no fast internet.11:05
Trashcanhmm11:05
Trashcangood point11:06
Mars__^So what with my gedit11:06
sobersabreand they want linux. to download it with modem is to kill yourself. then need the CDs.11:06
mrchicagowell, just a small one to make a llittle extra dough11:06
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ElkOSI can't get the command key ^]  working in screen with gnome-terminal, the default ^a does work, but since that's bol in bash and emacs, I'd like to set the command char for screen to 'escape ^] x' - any ideas how to convince gnome-terminal to accept ^] ?11:06
sobersabreto get them there you need to pay to the guy that drives them.11:06
mbpillaiLethargic17: and then ifconfig -a11:06
mrchicagoinclude like an extra cd with some cool games11:06
sobersabreTrashcan, so .. capisci ?11:06
Trashcancapisci?11:06
sobersabre"understood" ?11:06
Trashcanoh :p11:06
ExcFrom what I can tell its halting on language-pack-en-base because its 'untrusted' and even telling it 'Yes' to continue installation of that package doesn't help.11:06
Trashcanyeah11:06
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Trashcansure :)11:06
D4rKHowLok... no one helps me11:07
OfeGood morning. Could someone of you help me with a connectionspeed-problem? I have an external 56kbps voice/faxmodem so my maximum downloadspeed should be something like 5.6kb/s, but it's always 0.4-0.9kb/s, no matter where I load. Any solutions?11:07
twystedd4rkhowl11:07
twystedat the cd boot menu11:07
sobersabreadam_, so... after you know the sync rate, u need to also add a mode to your display. in xorg.conf11:07
twystedyoull want to type "ubuntu vga=771"11:07
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twystedthat should fix that problem11:07
adam_i just want to edit it so i can use another size down11:07
adam_what is the cmd to edit the table?11:07
sobersabreit is not a table,11:08
sobersabreit is a text file.11:08
adam_xorg.conf?11:08
graigi have a question about firestarter.11:08
sobersabreyou edit it with text editor.11:08
sobersabreadam_, yes.11:08
adam_is it gedit xorg.conf?11:08
D4rKHowLtwisted: it didn't do any good... i do vga=771 and stil the ubuntu still didn't display properly11:09
sobersabrerun editor with sudo, because only root can edit it. and, be VERY carefull. it can break your CRT, if you put bad values.11:09
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sobersabreadam_, you can e.g. run:11:09
sobersabresudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf11:09
Trashcansudo gedit /usr/X11/xorg.conf11:09
Trashcanshoot... etc.11:09
Trashcanmy bad11:09
mrchicagotorcs and like neverputt and neverball runs slow on my laptop11:09
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sobersabreOfe, you might have 3 problems:11:10
adam_its not coming up11:10
sobersabre1. bad cable11:10
squid0just trying one more time:11:10
falcon3what's a good kazaa alternative ?11:10
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sobersabre2. bad line11:10
squid0does anyone know about midi in ubuntu?11:10
sobersabre3. bad service11:10
D4rKHowLtwisted: my max display is just 1024*768 and i think ubuntu is starting with higher than that.... how can i lower the settings?11:10
twystedfalcon, limewire11:10
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adam_sobersabre, that file comes up empty11:10
Trashcanfalcon: bittorrent, xdcc, limewire11:10
falcon3thx you guys11:10
twystedd4rkhowl  do you have ubuntu installed or are you trying to install it11:11
squid0no-one? do you guys not use midi at all??11:11
D4rKHowLam trying to install it11:11
Mars__^do you think i installed nvidia drivers without makink gedit?11:11
graigi have a question about firestarter, i was looking at the log, is everything in the log blocked?  why are certain things red colored?11:11
Lethargic17mbpillai, the first command doesn't work11:11
sobersabreadam_, copy-paste my message with sudo11:11
falcon3limewire isnt apt-get'able... :/11:11
twystedd4rkhowl, ok it should only start with a 800x600 it wouldnt start with anything too high, let me check something :)11:11
Ofesobersabre: none of those. A computer with windows XP used to use the same cable and service. I'm not even sure what's the difference between line and cable. :\11:11
D4rKHowLam a previous windows user11:11
sobersabreOfe, line is from your home to the Operator.11:12
thoreauputicgraig: evrything you see is blocked and red means an attempt on a service port (eg ssh port 22 etc)11:12
squid0graig, be aware that if you're using a packaged firestarter version, it will likely run as a daemon upon startup.11:12
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sobersabreand cable is from the connector in your home to the modem ( which can be broken in the wall or outside the wall )11:12
thoreauputicgraig: I think anything below port 1024 would show red11:12
sobersabreOfe, and with windows does it work better ?11:12
squid0this can be quite frustrating, as you may run into network 'issues' that are simply the firewall blocking silently11:12
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Lethargic17can anyone tell me how i must install a network adapter driver?11:12
Ofesobersabre: The windows XP-connection was working properly, max downloadspeed was that 5.6kb/s. I noticed a couple of ppl in the forums with the same problem.11:12
D4rKHowLtwisted:am strying to install the 5.04 version on an AMD SEMpron 2200 with intergrated S3 video11:12
adam_sobersabre, that dont work11:13
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sobersabreadam_, what "that"11:13
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Lethargic17i don't understand the readme: http://users.skynet.be/info-seefeld/README11:13
sobersabreOfe, which modem do you own ?11:13
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falcon3limewire installation is an RPM... how do i use that in ubuntu ? :/11:13
graigdoes firestarter use iptables?11:13
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squid0graig: i think so11:13
graigand does that mean that firestarter doesn't need to be running to have the firewall on?11:13
mrchicagoalien i think11:13
macguyhey11:14
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thoreauputicgraig: yes11:14
mrchicagoalien yad.rpm11:14
Trashcanfalcon: alien11:14
macguyany mac users around here?11:14
graigok, thats what i thought.11:14
graigthanks.11:14
thoreauputicgraig: it starts on boot11:14
adam_sobersabre, the file comes up empty i mean completely empty11:14
sobersabregraig, there's not many firewall frontends in linux... checkpoint and iptables.11:14
Ofesobersabre: I tried 7, 2 of them worked. Old ISA-modem worked but with this some downloadspeed problem. and now I'm usin A-link voice/fax 56000bps external modem.11:14
falcon3Trashcan: i'm a real human11:14
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thoreauputicgraig: see /etc/init.d/firestarter11:14
Trashcanno you aren't11:14
Trashcannow get in the basket and make my bike fly!11:14
falcon3well mostly11:14
sobersabreOfe, there's no such chipset "a-link"11:14
sobersabrewhat's the chipset ?11:14
mbpillaiLethargic17: have a look at /etc/network/interfaces  and check any mapping is enabled11:14
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macguyone question: If i install ubuntu on my mac will it erase my whole computer??11:14
linnerthoreauputic: :)11:15
linnerthoreauputic: how the hell are ya'?11:15
thoreauputichey linner :)11:15
adam_thoreauputic, can you help me really quick?11:15
sobersabrewhat does it give with ATI commands ?11:15
Ofesobersabre: wait a minute, I'll check that one again. the manufacturer is A-link.11:15
adam_how do i alter my xorg.conf to change my res?11:15
thoreauputicadam_: probably not -what's the issue :)11:15
Trashcanmacguy: depends on if you have the mac partition taking up the entire disk11:15
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adam_thoreauputic, want to change my screen res11:15
thoreauputic!tell adam_ about fixres11:15
sobersabreadam_, have you succeeded to see the contents of /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?11:15
Lethargic17mbpillai, access dinied :s11:15
adam_no, its empty11:15
Trashcan!tell macguy about partition11:15
D4rKHowLyeah me too... i want to change my screen res11:16
macguyno it's not taking up the entire disc11:16
sobersabre!tell sobersabre about fixres11:16
Trashcanbah.. bot doesn't know about partitioning?11:16
Trashcanmacguy: you mean the entire disk is not *used*, or is the partition simply not sized to fill it?11:16
macguyi don't know11:16
Ofesobersabre: A-link 5614RE, external. V.90 &K56Flex. Any better?11:16
Trashcanjust having free space doesn't mean you can install ubuntu to it11:17
D4rKHowLubuntu 5.04 doesn't install well on my system.... display would go out of range... and i don't know how to change screen res11:17
sobersabreOfe, which ATI was this ?11:17
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macguyi am not sure about the partition :S11:17
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Ofesobersabre: I'll just find you the link to the manufacturers site. :) a min please.11:17
linnerhmm.... I'm not getting any messages this is weird.....11:17
sobersabreOfe, which program you use to dial out ?11:18
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falcon3Trashcan: did the alien thingy, now i get a directory.. what now ?11:18
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mbpillaiLethargic17: access denied for which command11:18
macguyif it does erase tiger out of my mac i'll probably just install it on my junky pc :P11:18
iiiearsI would like to install ut-install-GOTY.run  I think permissions/sudo is my trouble. Can anyone offer a tip?  a very short howto here http://pgshopping.com/mdkxp/?c=ttrls/utinstall11:18
thoreauputiclinner: not receiving /msg ?11:18
linnerthoreauputic: nope11:18
Lethargic17mbpillai /etc/network/interfaces11:18
thoreauputiclinner: gah - use a real IRC client11:18
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twystedD4rKHowL, i cannot find the answer you need, when you boot off the cd if y ou press F2, F3, F4 it should show you a option to change your resolution, i havent installed ubuntu recently so my mind is fuzzy on the cd booter11:18
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linnerthoreauputic: nor can i see what i've sent11:18
linnerwird11:18
linnerweird11:18
Trashcani dunno falcon3, i was just pretending to know what I was talking about :)11:18
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Trashcanshouldn't it have made a .deb?11:19
linnerthoreauputic: i had to go back to windows on the lappy :(11:19
thoreauputiclinner: oh dear :(11:19
falcon3dunno11:19
linnerthoreauputic: I know11:19
mbpillailess /etc/network/interfaces11:19
MadpilotPPClinner, that might have to do with your freenode settings? msgs work fine in Opera on my usual machine...11:19
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D4rKHowLwhat command should i input mr. twisted to change the resolution? any values aside from vga=77111:19
iiiearsit stalls before it ever shows an interactive window.  any hints?11:19
p00fUbuntu makes me feel alive, and sexy :)11:20
macguyanyone mind telling me how much linux market share is?11:20
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Ofesobersabre: I'm using the plugin in panel called "modem observer". and the link to the modem is: http://www.a-link.com/uk/5614RE.html11:20
dell500why would changing from KDE to Gnome delete a Documents folder i had containing some important stuff?11:20
twystedd4rkhowl it should tell you what to put for a basic vga support11:20
falcon3Trashcan: dpkg-gencontrol: error: current build architecture amd64 does not appear in package's list (i386)11:20
falcon3dh_gencontrol: command returned error code 6528011:20
falcon3:(11:21
Trashcanuh oh, falcon3 :)11:21
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twysteddell500 can u access the files on kde? or did you remove it from the system11:21
falcon3i've outsourced him11:21
Trashcanheh11:21
Trashcanbuilt for the intel arch11:21
afd_why is not possible to open a pdf file from a vfs/ssh connection? This is possible using fish in kde...11:21
falcon3bastards :(11:21
Trashcanyou're SOL unless you can recompile it :)11:21
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D4rKHowLok... thanks11:21
falcon3SOL ?11:21
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Trashcans*** outta luck11:21
dell500twysted, i'm not sure what happened, i know i didn't delete it11:21
giuseppehu11:22
falcon3oh11:22
No1Viking!tell me about bin2iso11:22
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p00fis Cinelerra in the Ubuntu apt- repository? I am thinking of installing Ubuntu again..11:22
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falcon3gonna tell everyone that limewire sucks now... brb11:22
AnkhWeaselGah. I asked a question like, an hour ago, and had to go away..missed the answer.11:22
AnkhWeaselHow do you move a program from one section of the Application panel to another? (In GNOME - from Other to Games..)11:23
twysteddelll500 try going back into kde and see if they are still there11:23
falcon3AnkhWeasel: scroll up :)11:23
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AnkhWeaselYeah, it appears to have cut it off already.11:23
dell500twysted, i'll try that11:23
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dell500i was just wondering if there was a way to retrace my steps back to that like a save point lol11:23
twysteddell500, if they are there move them into just your home directory they might be saving in a .kde folder that you would normally not see in gnome11:24
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squid0hi11:24
squid0gnome-video-thumbnailer is chewing cpu usage. what could this be?11:25
twystedthat makes thumbnail images for video files11:25
squid0ok, thanks.11:25
twystedso if you have a folder full of videos you can see a image from a random part of the clip :)11:25
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squid0but i've not got any file system windows open, so i can't understand why it's still motoring on11:26
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twystedprocess must be hung up on something, restart X and you should be fine11:26
squid0can't i just kill it?11:26
WaernerHmm, does anyone know the date for the Breezy-release?11:26
thoreauputicOct 1311:27
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Waernerthanks11:27
squid0i don't wanna have to restart x just cos of this11:27
twystedyou can try that but it might make X go loopy11:27
twystedor rather gnome11:27
squid0what do you mean?11:27
sobersabreOfe, so... what is the ttyS* the modem is on ?11:27
Ofesobersabre: ttyS011:27
sobersabreand what's the init string you're using ?11:27
squid0(loopy)11:27
twystedjust give it a try squid11:27
sobersabredo you have minicom ?11:28
squid0ok11:28
iiiearsthoreauputic - How is it going?    Are you using Breezy Badger?11:28
thoreauputiciiiears: nope - still comfortably on hoary :)11:28
Ofesobersabre: I don't know what's a init string and I don't think I have minicom because I've never heard of it.11:28
iiiearsOkay, Me too. - lol11:28
squid0twysted: lovely. i've got processing power again! ;)11:29
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twystedsquid0 , excellent!11:29
squid0thanks11:29
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twystedwelcome11:30
Ofesobersabre: should I search synaptic for minicom? o.O11:30
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squid0me? thanks11:30
josehola11:30
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josesoy espaol y tu11:31
sobersabreOfe, don't bother: apt-get install minicom11:31
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daejavuim downloading a file with extension ".pl" ... is that a linux executable ?11:31
Vensondaejavu: that's a perl script11:31
twysteddaejavu: its a perl file11:31
sobersabredaejavu, it is probably a perl program.. beware those .11:32
sobersabrethey can be very nasty....11:32
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clasthey, what are the new backports for breezy, since the unofficial ones are offline?11:32
daejavuwell its a patch for Enemy Territory .. and it had that extension11:32
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daejavui just wanted to be sre im not downloading anything for winz11:32
blendamy apt is messed up... when i try to run apt-cache i get this error "E: Encountered a section with no Package: header \11:32
blendaE: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/dpkg/status11:32
blenda"11:32
twysteddaejavu just make sure its from a trusted source11:32
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sobersabredaejavu, it can be a windows perl script... perl is mostly independent...11:33
blendait doesn't work with synaptic either11:33
daejavuhow do i rrun it ?   just     sh fgl.pl ?11:33
mbpillaiLethargic17: issue the command " less /etc/network/interfaces"11:33
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sobersabredaejavu, no perl fgl.pl11:33
sobersabreactually if you chmod +x it, you can simply run it via: ./fgl.pl11:33
daejavucool ... thanks guyz !   btw anyone play EnemyTerritory ?11:33
sobersabrecool! btw, anyone pla ?11:34
sobersabrei mean play ?11:34
sobersabre:)11:34
daejavuyup .. lol11:34
daejavuand do we have a seperate channel on that ..  i got a sound problem with it :S11:34
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Ofesobersabre: I'm now downloading minicom with synaptic (apt-get install minicom gave an errormessage). I'll just install it and that's it?11:35
clastwhat are the new backports for breezy, since the unofficial ones are offline?11:35
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sobersabreI am sure you run a pppd.11:35
sobersabreyou need to look in the logs for pppd errors.11:35
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sobersabreif there are such, you need to set manually: 1. connection protocol , 2. compression protocol 3. error correction protocol11:36
ppzAny Swedish guys in here ? I've been wresteling with locales and cant get my head round why my swedish chars wont work in irssi.11:36
sobersabreppz, except the locale, you also need fonts...11:36
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Ofesobersabre: yes, I do run pppd. It's ppp0 in the options menu btw. does that matter?11:36
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ppzsobersabre, ok. I'll check in to that.11:37
sobersabreOfe, no. ppp0 is a name of the connection11:37
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adam_guys, quick help again11:37
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blendappz: i'm from sweden but i don't know much about irssi11:37
adam_enabling dma on my dvd rw drive11:37
sobersabreadam_, how's your resolution ?11:37
brownie17soo..... how do i install a .deb file?11:37
adam_i never got it straight... i edited the file, but it still wont come up11:37
blendabrownie17: "dpkg -i foo.deb"11:37
adam_no biggie11:37
adam_something i will work on later11:37
adam_theres other things i want first11:38
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adam_like dvd burning11:38
adam_but11:38
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blendappz: maybe this could be interesting http://qw.se/~hawk/charconv/11:38
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adam_i cant enable dma on my dvdrw drive...11:38
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brownie17blenda, what does the "-i" extension do?11:38
Trashcan-install11:38
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adam_i did sudo /etc/hdparm.conf11:38
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adam_and it doesnt come up11:38
adam_its weird11:38
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sobersabreadam_, do it with hdparm -d1 /dev/dvd11:39
mcphailHi everyone. How good is the support for PCI-X mobos / graphics cards (nVidia)?11:39
adam_kk11:39
sobersabreif it is IDE11:39
sobersabreand the reso: there are many redundant modes in xorg.conf. leave only those you need.11:39
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brownie17blenda, i just installed a .deb file, how can i discover the filename of the executable? like the installed files. i want to know how to fun the program11:40
adam_sobersabre, for the flag, it says use -d11:40
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adam_so the command would be what?11:40
sobersabreyou can make a mode like:     SubSection "Display"11:40
sobersabre        Depth       2411:40
sobersabre        Modes       "1024x768"11:40
sobersabre    EndSubSection11:40
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sobersabreadam_, do it with : hdparm -d 1 /dev/dvd11:41
adam_i did11:41
adam_so did that enable it?11:41
sobersabreafter run: hdparm -d /dev/dvd11:41
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adam_ah11:41
sobersabreand see if yes.11:41
brownie17 can someone help me?, I just installed a .deb file, how can i discover the filename of the executable? like the installed files. i want to know how to fun the program11:41
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juliuxhi11:41
sobersabrebra1nf00d, dpkg -L debname11:41
blendabrownie17: try "dpkg --listfiles packagename" and "dpkg --help" for more info11:42
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juliuxhas somebody a hp nx6110 an can tell me how good it runs with ubuntu?11:42
adam_sober, it keeps saying no11:42
sobersabrejuliux, linuxlaptops can tell you about it.11:42
blendaand people, please be patient. there's no reason to ask the same question within a few minutes11:42
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blendaif anybody knows they will answer you, but please give some time for people to find the answer11:43
juliuxsobersabre, i know but i want to speak with somebody who use the hp ubuntu on it11:43
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brownie17blenda, if i give you a pastebin of what came up, could you identify what command i should run to execute it?11:43
sobersabrejuliux, is there no ubuntu feedback on your model in the site ?11:43
adam_sobersabre, still no11:43
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sobersabreadam_, still no what ?11:43
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blendabrownie17: sure11:43
adam_sobersabre, no dam11:43
adam_dma11:43
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sobersabreadam_, what kind of DVD drive do you have ?11:44
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blendabrownie17: look for a file in /usr/bin11:44
adam_its a dvdrw11:44
adam_4x11:44
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sobersabreSCSI/USB/IDE/external/internal ?11:44
lhb?11:44
adam_sobersabre, ide11:44
brownie17blenda,  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/271111:44
adam_sobersabre, internal11:44
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sobersabrewhat is the output of hdparm -d /dev/dvd ?11:44
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juliuxsobersabre, yes there is one but he do not use the hp ubuntu11:44
adam_it says using-dma =0 off11:44
adam_sobersabre, it says using _dma =0 off11:45
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adam_sobersabre, did it twice too11:45
sobersabrethen run: hdparm -d 1 /dev/dvd AS ROOOOOOTTTT!!!!11:45
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blendabrownie17: what does "file /opt/MainActor/mactor" say?11:46
sobersabreunderstand: the regular user can run almost everything root can, but root can change some things.11:46
brownie17adam_,  type sudo before the command11:46
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sobersabrebrownie17, good point!11:46
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brownie17blenda, /opt/MainActor/mactor: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped11:46
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adam_sobersabre, doing it as root, it still says off11:46
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blendabrownie17: that's your executable11:46
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sobersabreadam_, maybe your BIOS doesn't allow DMA for CDROM. fix it.11:47
brownie17blenda, why is it in such a weird position? thankyou11:47
adam_ah11:47
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brownie17sobersabre, maybe it is disabled because it is dangerous for his hardware, it can be so11:47
blendabrownie17: you're welcome. blame the one package maintainer :)11:47
mbpillaiLethargic17: remove pptpd by issuing the command "sudo apt-get remove pptpd" the check with the command "ifconfig -a" you can see th0 device11:47
brownie17sobersabre, that is why it is not enabled by default11:47
sobersabrebrownie17, dvd is usually dma capable... don't you agree ?11:48
sobersabreit's not like an old cdrom drive.11:48
brownie17sobersabre, oh ok11:48
blendabrownie17: i seldom see packages installed in /opt nowadays, i think it's some old standard11:49
brownie17blenda, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/271211:49
HappyFooli think /opt is preferred by the LSB (i may be wrong)11:49
Ofesobersabre: I'm afraid I'm going to have to ask something again. how do I check for errormessages of pppd? :)11:50
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HappyFoolOfe: try 'plog', or look in /var/log/syslog11:51
blendabrownie17: to run a program that is not in your path you must either go to the dir and issue ./mactor or do /opt/MainActor/mactor11:51
brownie17blenda, is there a way i can make it start working by just typing mactor?11:52
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blendabrownie17: add it to your path. which shell do you use?11:54
taliosDoes anyone know of any panarama photo tools in Ubuntu?  I've seen Hugin mentioned alot but no packages seem to be available :(11:54
brownie17blenda, just the standard gnome-terminal11:54
blendabrownie17: that's not your shell, that's your terminal emulator11:54
brownie17blenda, borne again11:54
brownie17blenda, bash11:54
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StarKruzrhi guys.  I'm trying to change which version of gcc make uses.  how do I do this?11:55
liableit appears to only be #debian having the problem though..11:55
StarKruzrsomeone told me use export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-2.95 (for example), but that doesn't seem to do it.11:55
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LazyAngelhi! does anyone know what cedega is? Does it cost money, or can it be downloaded for free?11:55
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brownie17LazyAngel, free. it is an emulator for windows. alot like wine11:56
StarKruzrI think I have to create a symlink from something to something else, but I'm not sure how that works11:56
deFryskcedega is free ?11:56
Lethargic17mbpillai: he can't find pptpd11:56
afd_brownie17, since when is cedega free?11:56
deFrysksince when ?11:56
brownie17LazyAngel, it's really a preference, but there are some programs that work with one, and not the other.11:56
blendabrownie17: okey. open ~/.bash_profile and look for something like PATH=~/bin:"${PATH}" and change it to PATH=~/bin:/opt/MainActor/:"${PATH}"11:56
sobersabreOfe, sudo less /var/log/messages11:56
brownie17afd_, it is not?11:56
sobersabreOfe, search for pppd11:56
afd_I believe you can download the sources or such a thing, but it's not possible to get a binary from them11:57
mahanguare there any fancy gui tools i can apt-get?11:57
mahangutrying to get some friends to convert11:57
brownie17blenda, fraser@brown:~$ cd /.bash_profile11:57
brownie17bash: cd: /.bash_profile: No such file or directory11:57
mahanguwanna wow them a little :)11:57
LazyAngeli can't find where to download it from http://www.transgaming.com Only subscribe to some sort of service. But i know some of the source is based on wine11:57
afd_mahangu, synaptic11:57
StarKruzrmahangu: synaptic comes with Ubuntu11:57
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mahangulike application switchers, desktop widgets11:57
StarKruzroh11:57
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mahangu:)11:58
StarKruzrhm11:58
StarKruzrthat I don't know about.11:58
StarKruzrbut, er, yes.  can anyone help me with my GCC question above?11:58
LazyAngelafd_: so you can download the source for free but not the binaris? Then they have hidden the source well. Do you know where i can find it?11:58
brownie17LazyAngel, well, even if cedega isn't free, wine is. it is available in the ubuntu repos, and it is probably more popular than cedega11:58
blendabrownie17: wrong path, don't forget the tilde: ~/.bash_profile11:58
blendabrownie17: and it's a file, not a directory, open it with a text editor11:58
LazyAngelbrownie17: yes, but cedega has better support for games if i'm not wrong11:59
brownie17StarKruzr, you could just uninstall every other version but the one you want11:59
naliothStarKruzr: when the bots started swarming. or didnt you notice all those joins/parts?11:59
StarKruzrI tried that, and it broke things.11:59
StarKruzrnalioth: are you answering my question from before in #ubuntu-unregistered?12:00
brownie17LazyAngel, hm... possibly, im no expert. just between you and me, legalities aren't everything, and something being illegal rather than obscure actually makes it easier to get12:00
Ofesobersabre: another problem, one that I havent' faced before. I can't scroll down the message that command "sudo less /var/log/messages" gives. but the message continues as I make the root-window bigger. o.O12:00
StarKruzrbecause I did notice those.  jerks.12:00
Ofesobersabre: nevermind, page down helps12:00
HappyFoolStarKruzr: when you say that didn't work, what did you mean?12:00
blendaLazyAngel: i don't think it's free, but i think you can find it on dc or a bittorrent tracker12:00
LazyAngelbrownie17: yes, i know. i can just download it from another site. But that might compromise the whole system. so i would rather use a legal one if it exist12:01
StarKruzrbrownie, Happyfool: like I said, I think that leaves things broken.  I did that and I couldn't get anything to compile.  I know there is a way to do it with a symlink but I just don't know what it is.12:01
naliothStarKruzr: yes i am12:01
HappyFoolStarKruzr: what are you trying to compile?12:01
StarKruzrkernel 2.4.19.  it's for a research project.12:01
HappyFoolStarKruzr: and 'make CC=gcc-2.95' doesn't work?12:02
StarKruzrI have a scheduler that I'm patching into the kernel and I am sort of learning as I go.12:02
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=== StarKruzr eyes what HappyFool just said
StarKruzrno one told me about that.12:02
StarKruzrlemme try it.12:02
brownie17blenda, that did not work. i think i did it right, want a pastebin of the new file?12:03
naliothStarKruzr: "export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4" or whatever didnt work? notice that you have to have the gcc version installed to be pointed to12:03
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ExcI've managed to get Ubuntu installed, but it cannot start X. It would seem that it 'Can't find: PCI Mach64' at 5:0:0 or 5:0:1. This is weird, because I have a Radeon X800.12:03
ExcMight anybody have a suggestion?12:03
blendabrownie17: sure12:03
StarKruzrnalioth: right, that did not work.  and the version was installed.12:03
naliothubotu: tell Exc about fixres12:04
brownie17blenda, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/271312:04
StarKruzralso, if I am patching source into the kernel, at what stage do I do that?  after make dep but before make bzImage?12:04
naliothStarKruzr: you are running it in a terminal, immediately preceding whatever business you want using gcc-2.95?12:04
ExcThanks, friend. I'll take a look.12:04
HappyFoolStarKruzr: before 'make dep', i would've thought12:04
StarKruzrnalioth: that's right12:05
StarKruzrHappyFool: okay12:05
naliothStarKruzr: weird12:05
blendabrownie17: remove the ending slash, it should be "/opt/MainActor" not "/opt/MainActor/"12:05
HappyFoolStarKruzr: what error did you get ? (don't paste here!)12:05
blendabrownie17: then logout and login again12:05
brownie17blenda, gdm? ok12:05
HappyFoolStarKruzr: also, are you planning on using Xen or some similar means of testing the kernel?12:05
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lesshastehas anyone got mount rainier support working?12:06
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HappyFoolwhat's mount rainier ?12:07
pefhello12:07
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StarKruzrHappyFool: No, no Xen.  however, it just started working after putting that line into make.  w00t!12:08
StarKruzralthough, Xen would be a good idea.12:08
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mirakhi12:08
lesshasteHappyFool: it let's you use your cd rw as floppies12:08
StarKruzrof course I'd have to tell it to compile for that in make menuconfig I guess.12:08
lesshasteHappyFool:  provides transparency to the burning process basicallu12:08
StarKruzruh oh12:09
HappyFoollesshaste: sorry, never heard of it (just did a google). has a weird name12:09
StarKruzrhot damn that was fast12:09
afd_"network transparency" is a joke with gnome 2.10... blah. I'm dissapointed12:09
mirakhey12:09
Ofesobersabre: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2714 <- the message with pppd on it, latest.12:09
StarKruzra winner is me!  ok, so where did it put the compiled kernel?  I did the compilation in my ~.12:10
lesshasteHappyFool: http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/7512:10
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StarKruzrshouldn't I have a file called bzImage in there somewhere?  or is it vmlinuz?12:10
gee_re12:10
mirakI am trying to migrate a linux installation to another hard drive, but I fail to install grub on it, from the current linux installation, even by cchrooting to the other system. anyone have info about how doing that ?12:10
lesshastehttp://www.mt-rainier.org/12:10
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HappyFoollesshaste: maybe this will help? http://www.thehaus.net/AltOS/Linux/ht-mtrainier.shtml12:11
daejavui need to make my own customer kernel .. a link  or a how-to  for it plz !12:11
gazamhey, could somebody help me change startup programs without the sessions program in gnome?12:11
HappyFool!tell daejavu about kernelhowto12:11
gazamI cant get past gdm because of xcompmanager and need to stop it from starting through the commandline12:11
[LethAL] How do I change an environment variable throught the command line?12:12
lesshasteHappyFool: thx... http://reactivated.net/software/packetwriting/ also seems to be important12:12
daejavuHappyFool, copy that !  thanks12:12
StarKruzranyone?  Bueller?  where did my newly compiled kernel go?  there were no kpkgs here.12:13
gee_Can anybody tell me, how to ged rid of busybox-stuff? This slows booting extremely down.12:13
HappyFoolStarKruzr: it's in arch/i386, i think12:13
StarKruzrgracias12:13
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lesshastemaybe I should give in and go straight for dvd-ram?12:14
HappyFoolStarKruzr: otherwise try 'find -iname bzImage'12:14
mirakI am trying to migrate a linux installation to another hard drive, but I fail to install grub on it, from the current linux installation, even by cchrooting to the other system. anyone have info about how doing that ?12:14
[LethAL] !tell mirak about grub12:14
[LethAL] mirak: Read about recovering Ubuntu from Windows, that should help12:14
StarKruzrHappyFool: just so you know, looks like it's in arch/i386/boot12:14
[LethAL] -should-12:14
gazammirak are you trying to install hoary?12:14
StarKruzrin other words, I found it :D12:14
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StarKruzrnow all I have to do is figure out how to use it12:15
HappyFoolStarKruzr: put it in /boot and edit /boot/grub/menu.lst12:15
StarKruzr...12:15
StarKruzrit's that simple?12:15
HappyFoolStarKruzr: you may also need to 'make modules' and 'make modules_install'; i don't know if you'll also need a initrd image12:15
StarKruzrquestion12:15
StarKruzrwhat will make modules_install do exactly?12:15
HappyFoolStarKruzr: i suspect trying to run ubuntu on a 2.4 kernel will break in very interesting ways ;)12:16
mirakgazam: no12:16
gazambreezy then?12:16
mirakI am not trying to recover12:16
mirakI copy an install to another drive for another computer12:16
naliothmirak: the procedure may work for your purpose12:16
StarKruzrHappy: I don't even need to get her into X on the 2.4 kernel.  all I need is a bash prompt12:16
HappyFoolmirak: how about just reinstalling, and copying data (e.g., /home directories) across?12:17
HappyFoolStarKruzr: regardless, i think you will have some issues12:17
mirakHappyFool: that's to long12:17
gazammirak, this probably wont work because grub usually installs itself into the mbr... you will have to reinstall grub I think12:17
StarKruzrhrm12:17
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HappyFoolmirak: an install takes what, 30 minutes?12:17
StarKruzr... crap12:17
Alex_BOWhat I need to share between two Linux Boxes?Do I need SAMBA?12:17
nightswimnfs12:17
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mirakHappyFool: I must download and burn the CD12:18
naliothAlex_BO: NFS12:18
HappyFoolmirak: ah12:18
StarKruzrare there any distributions that still use 2.4 by default?12:18
naliothAlex_BO: samba is a windows crutch12:18
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thoreauputicStarKruzr: slackware I think12:18
Alex_BOnalioth, i guess "man nfs"12:18
StarKruzrbut it's a *good* Windows crutch, nalioth12:18
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naliothAlex_BO: there are also howtos in wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation12:19
StarKruzrthoreau: thanks12:19
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gazammirak... there are other ways to install grub, but it will always involve downloading and burning a cd, because the alternative is using a LiveCD to reinstall GRUB12:19
Alex_BOnalioth, tnks12:19
naliothStarKruzr: i havent owned a windows box in years, and dont like using microsoft standards in any fashion12:19
StarKruzrbut for now I guess I have to put slack on this dev one12:19
thoreauputicStarKruzr: last time I looked the default for slackware was 2.4.2912:19
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mirakgazam: but can't I use my running linux as a livecd ?12:20
HappyFoolStarKruzr: was ext3 not an option for 2.4.19 ?12:20
StarKruzr2.4.3112:20
mirakgazam: I can chroot to the new system12:20
StarKruzrHappyFool: I guess it doesn't hurt to try it.12:20
StarKruzr(at least, I *hope* it doesn't hurt to try it)12:21
HappyFoolheh12:21
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HappyFooli wonder if xen supports 2.4 kernels12:21
StarKruzrit does12:21
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StarKruzrthe first XenoLinux ran on a modified 2.412:21
gazam:/ now your confusing me... but in any case I am not an expert on GRUB installations, but I did have a GRUB problem just 2 days ago which made me look up some information about fixing  it. I cam across a thread on ubuntuforums with various ways to reinstall it so I will try to find that for you12:21
brownie17Gaim won't sign on, it gets to "sending cookie" then it just sits ther12:22
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StarKruzryou might possibly have to version back Xen, but it at least worked at one time12:22
HappyFoolbrownie17: it's working for me12:22
StarKruzrthe reason Xen is not an option is because I have exacting scheduler requirements - I'm testing and modifying a real-time scheduler12:22
nctHi, does anyone knows if ubuntu 5.10 will have updaetd DRI snapshots included ?12:23
brownie17HappyFool, thanks12:23
HappyFoolStarKruzr: ah? what application?12:23
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brownie17everyone wuit...now!12:25
brownie17quit*12:25
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NightLordwhen i try to run xvidtune it says "Please install the program before using12:27
NightLord" why?12:27
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BusMastermy toshiba tecra a3 laptop running hoary does not wake up after I suspend to ram. there are no errors in /var/log/acpid. how should I start approaching the problem?12:29
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StarKruzrHappyFool: we're trying to see if we can make an m,k scheduler that drops jobs intelligently with a view toward better power management12:31
StarKruzrcould be a lot of applications if we can make it work right12:31
StarKruzralso, what are initrds for?12:31
StarKruzrI'm noticing here that I don't really have one so much.12:32
eliphas_hello12:32
StarKruzror rather, I do, but it seems to be for 2.6.12:32
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HappyFoolStarKruzr: i'm not clear on the details; it's an initial ramdisk. i think it contains some initial drivers/setup scripts for the boot12:32
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mahanguany tools that i can get via synaptic / apt-get that are flashy? want to wow some windows user friends12:32
naliothBusMaster: check bugzilla.ubuntu.com and file a bug if your problem isnt there12:33
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mahangui once saw a guy use a really fancy window switcher on debian12:33
HappyFool!tell StarKruzr about kernelhowto12:33
mirakare you sure there is LVM modules into kernel initrd ?12:33
mahanguit was gnome desktop too12:33
HappyFoolStarKruzr: check out that wiki page12:33
BusMasterok12:33
mirakanyone uses LVM with ubuntu ?12:33
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StarKruzrthe only ones I see in synaptic are for CDs12:34
StarKruzrand, ok12:34
thoreauputicmahangu: 3ddesk perhaps12:34
mahanguthoreauputic, thanks :)12:34
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mahangubtw i installed enlightenment yesterday via synaptic12:34
mahanguand it totally screwed up my boot procedure12:34
mahanguit uninstalled some linux image files12:34
mahanguso i had to reinstall b/c i couldnt even apt get12:34
mahangumy wifi was borked12:34
mahanguin future what can i do in a case like that12:35
mahanguis there some resetting i can do somewhere?12:35
thoreauputicmahangu: you were using some 3rd party repo, right?12:35
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thoreauputicmahangu: btw the package is actually called 3ddesktop12:37
eliphas_hello my computer is a i686 but when I do a uname -a I have a i3683 kernel12:38
eliphas_how can I downlaod the poper one please?12:38
eliphas_proper12:38
HappyFoolinstall the linux-686 package12:38
thoreauputiceliphas_: apt-cache search linux-image12:38
thoreauputiceliphas_: or what HappyFool said :)12:39
daejavuim trying to run a .pl file  and heres the output   "Unrecognized character \x03 at fh2.pl line 1."12:39
daejavuwhat to do ?12:39
thenukelinux-image-686 should be enough I guess12:39
eliphas_ok thanks guys12:39
naliothdaejavu: your perl script is not written correctly12:39
HappyFoollinux-686 will get you -restricted-modules too12:40
daejavunalioth,  how do i get that fixed ?12:40
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sobersabreguys, where can i check which laptops support suspend to RAM already ?12:41
sobersabre( in ubuntu ) ?12:41
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naliothdaejavu: learn perl and correct the syntax12:41
StarKruzrHappyFool: it laughed at me when I tried to boot, but at least it didn't trash anything12:43
HappyFoolStarKruzr: it laughed? your machine is possessed? ;)12:44
StarKruzrpretty much12:44
joe_alfi run the command 'export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4'. the question is how do i remove it. do i have to run 'export CC='12:44
StarKruzrit told me not to quit my day job12:44
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HappyFoolheh12:44
StarKruzrsadly, this IS my day job ;_;12:44
HappyFooldid it even get the kernel loaded, or did you get a grub error?12:44
StarKruzrjoe: when you restart, that environment variable will restart itself12:44
StarKruzrno, it loaded the kernel!12:45
HappyFooloh?12:45
naliothjoe_alf: it removes itself when you close the terminal12:45
StarKruzrbut it was all like "hey dumbass, you need to set a root= option because otherwise I have no freaking clue where to start loading stuff"12:45
HappyFoolyeah, use the other entries in menu.lst for examples12:45
bimberijoe_alf: unset CC12:45
StarKruzrI think I need to make an initrd12:46
StarKruzror possibly just use one of the 2.6 ones12:46
HappyFoolor read 'info grub' (you may need to install grub docs)12:46
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joe_alfbimberi,  thanks12:46
bimberijoe_alf: yw :)12:46
mirakanyone uses LVM with ubuntu ?12:46
HappyFoolno, you just need a root=/dev/hd* in the menu.lst file, i think12:46
StarKruzroh12:46
StarKruzrreally?12:46
HappyFoolum12:46
StarKruzrthat would be supremely easy12:46
HappyFoolmaybe12:46
StarKruzrheh12:46
HappyFoolyeah, i think that's right12:47
StarKruzrok12:47
HappyFoolit's a kernel option12:47
StarKruzrI know I'm supposed to be a dirty linux hippie but I need to shower and go to bed already12:47
StarKruzrnight people12:47
HappyFoolsee about line 44 in menu.lst -- there's an example there12:47
StarKruzrHappyFool, thanks again12:47
HappyFoolchrs dude. good luck ;)12:47
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sobersabremirak, what's the problem with lvm ?12:49
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miraksobersabre: it can find my /12:49
zertoxdoes standard install of ubuntu support framebuffer?12:49
StarKruzrcrap12:49
miraksobersabre: I try some stuffs, I reboot12:50
StarKruzrI go to email my advisor and naturally the IMAP server has to choose this moment to crap the bed12:50
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sobersabremirak, do you load initrd ?12:50
sobersabrehm12:50
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sobersabreOfe, you need to make pppd more verbose. the log you've pasted contains a normal data. nothing's wrong.12:51
sobersabreOfe, now. Have you connected with this exactly setup with windows and it simply ran OK ?12:51
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sobersabre(if you lie, whatever I do, won't help :) )12:51
scaporHow do I put photos on my iPod ? I can mount it, I put photos on it but my ipod still says there are no photos12:52
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sobersabrescapor, is ipod able to display photos ?12:52
scaporsobersabre: yeah12:52
silwo1is there somebody else except me who can't write cds using nautilus in breezy?12:52
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StarKruzrwhat's that command that commits data to disk?12:52
scaporsobersabre: I paid enough money for it ;)12:52
StarKruzrsync?12:52
StarKruzrthat might do it, scapor12:53
StarKruzrit might be buffering the write12:53
sobersabrehm, is it able to show evrything ( all available formats ) ?12:53
sobersabrescapor, you've umounted ipod to see the photos or is it still connected ?12:53
scaporanyway .. any iPod photo/nano/whatever_that_can_show_photos owners here ?12:53
scaporsobersabre: I unmounted it .. went to the photo menuy12:53
scaporbut nothing in there12:54
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sobersabrehm.. so is it able to display that format ?12:54
scaporsobersabre: I tried jpg's ..12:54
bimberiStarKruzr: yep, sync flushes the cache to disk12:54
scaporsobersabre: must support it, right ?12:54
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NightLordwhen i try to run xvidtune it says "Please install the program before using12:54
sobersabrescapor, no "must"12:54
NightLord" why?12:54
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StarKruzrso maybe when scapor tries to write his pictures to the iPod, it's buffering it and not putting it in the filesystem12:54
sobersabremaybe apple want you to use only tiff pictures...12:54
StarKruzrit could be an artifact of whatever interface they use to talk to the iPod12:55
sobersabrescapor, check tha manual...12:55
scaporsobersabre: nope .. they can connect to cameras directlu12:55
StarKruzror I could be talking out my ass, too.  crap I'm tired12:55
scaporcameras who use jpg's12:55
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sobersabreis it possible you mounted ipod read-only ?12:55
sobersabreor mounted a disk-on-key in the same mount point....12:56
scaporsobersabre: nope .. I wrote the files on it12:56
scaporscapor: I could seethe files again the next mount12:56
sobersabrethen you should take a little puppet of an ipod, and stick little needles into it.12:56
scaporhehe12:56
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TrackilizerHey guys.12:57
TrackilizerI have a Non-ubuntu question for school.12:57
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TrackilizerHow much would a 33tyrabyte server cost?12:57
StarKruzrTrackilizer: Just Say No12:57
lsuactiafnerif i route 443 to my flatmate's windows pc would he get a virus? iptables -t nat -I PREROUTING 1 -p tcp --dport 443 -j DNAT --to 192.168.1.112:57
TrackilizerWhat do you mean say no?12:58
lesshasteTrackilizer: it really depends on what extras you are paying for12:58
TrackilizerI mean the hardware.12:58
lesshasteTrackilizer: just the storage is easy to calculate12:58
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StarKruzrnevermind, you're from Germany and were never exposed to that particular American governmental idiocy :)12:58
scaporTrackilizer: with or without windows server license ? :)12:58
Trackilizerwith12:58
lesshasteTrackilizer: no I mean what extra hardware... raid, hot swapping, power supply redundancy etc.12:58
sobersabreOfe, how did you test your connection speed ?12:58
paulshendrickdoes anyone know how i can unmount my ipod? i try to, but it still says do not disconnect12:58
TrackilizerSome guy bought this 33TB server and i want to know how much he paid for it.12:58
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HappyFoolask him12:59
lesshasteTrackilizer: how would we know how much someone else paid for something!?! :)12:59
_jasonHey everybody.  I currently have Ubuntu and Windows Xp on a dual boot with a fat32 partition for sharing.  I'm enjoying Ubuntu and would like to shrink the XP partition down and make Ubuntu's parition larger.  What's the easiest/safest way to do this?12:59
sobersabreTrackilizer, what does it have to do with school ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!12:59
TrackilizerWell, what do you think something like that would cost?12:59
lsuactiafneri need a 5TB serve.12:59
TrackilizerBecause that's what we have to find out.12:59
HappyFool_jason: you can try booting off the live-cd and using gparted (i think it's on the live-cd)01:00
TrackilizerHow much a 33TB would cost.01:00
HappyFoolTrackilizer: newegg.com01:00
TrackilizerThe hardware that is.01:00
HappyFoolTrackilizer: this is more than slightly off-topic01:00
StarKruzrjason: qtparted or gparted can do it, just do a defrag on the XP partition first to move data to the beginning of the disk01:00
paulshendrickanyone?01:00
sobersabreTrackilizer, like "that" ... you're not discribing the system any more...01:00
sobersabrepaulshendrick, then don't disconnect...01:00
TrackilizerErm.. all i know is that it's a 33TB server the hardware that is.01:01
paulshendricksobersabre, erm, so how do i take the ipod into another room?01:01
Goekhow do i install a rpm file?01:01
TrackilizerAnd we are supposed to find out how much that would cost.01:01
sobersabrebring a room to the ipod ;-)01:01
Goeki wanna install limewire01:01
HappyFool!tell Goek about alien01:01
paulshendrickso in other words - ubuntu doesn't know how to eject something?01:01
sobersabreTrackilizer, go for IBM, EMC and HP sites and search for storage solutions.01:01
_jasonHappyFool, StarKruzr: Is it ok to get gparted through synaptic and use my Ubuntu install or is it preferrable to use it with the liveCD?01:01
sobersabreTrackilizer, you can google on SAN equipment.01:02
naliothGoek: gtk-gnutella has the same functionality as limewire and is available via synaptic01:02
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StarKruzr_jason: in fact you may have to do two or three defrags before it all gets shifted enough that you can start changing the partitions around.  unfortunately I don't think the parteds can move Windows data around themselves01:02
boxerboy29anyone know the name of package that gives you debian program list in applications on breezy?01:02
^AnK^!ping me01:02
ubotu^AnK^: Are you on ritalin?01:02
HappyFool_jason: resizing mounted ("live") partitions is not a good idea01:02
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Trashcanhaha01:02
HappyFool_jason: hence using the live-cd is a good idea01:02
_jasonStarKruzr:  how would I check that all the XP data is in fact shifted to the beginning?01:02
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StarKruzr_jason: look at the map of data when you go to defrag the drive01:02
_jasonHappyFool:  ok I'll burn a live cd01:03
StarKruzrit's a crappy map, but it gives you a general idea of where the bits are living01:03
_jasonStarKruzr:  so that would be in gparted, ok thanks01:03
StarKruzrnonononono01:03
^AnK^ritalin?01:03
HappyFool_jason: first check that it has gparted01:03
StarKruzrthat would be in XP01:03
StarKruzrdefrag it in XP first01:03
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jakesterWhat is the command to list all pnp isa devices on a system?01:03
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HappyFooli think gparted can kind of show where the data is (maybe i'm wrong?)01:04
_jasonStarKruzr:  ok defrag in XP, then there is some way in the defrag utility to check that all the data was moved to the beginning then?01:04
TrackilizerSo, what would you guys thing a 33TB server would cost?01:04
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naliothHappyFool: nope. just partitions01:04
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StarKruzr_jason: unfortunately you can't tell it "move all my data to the beginning of the partition," it just sort of does it by itself, but only half-assedly01:04
_jasonStarKruzr:  lol ok01:04
Goekthanks.01:04
StarKruzrthis is why you have to do it repeatedly sometimes in order to get it to behave itself :)01:04
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globuleHi ! All01:05
Goeki've had problems with gtk-gnutella before, but i'll give it a try01:05
StarKruzrjason: good luck!01:05
_jasonStarKruzr, HappyFool: well I do have a 31GB share.  It may be safer to shrink that down and reformat the rest of it and then join it to the Ubuntu partition.  Would you agree?01:05
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sleon|tuXhallo01:05
sleon|tuXi have a question01:05
Trashcanheya01:05
Trashcanask away01:06
HappyFool_jason: 'safest' is back all personal data up first01:06
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sleon|tuXcan someone do for me : grep pangox /usr/lib/pkgconfig/*\.pc |grep Requires01:06
_jasonHappyFool:  yep I have that done, I did that before installing Ubuntu itself ;)01:06
HappyFool_jason: also, you can maybe remount /home on a new partition, instead of resizing01:06
sleon|tuXand gives me output to pastebin?01:06
Trashcansure thing01:07
_jasonStarKruzr, HappyFool: alright thanks for the info guys01:07
Trashcanno results, sleon01:07
sleon|tuXTrashcan, interesting01:07
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boxerboy29shouldnt a | be after grep?01:07
sleon|tuXTrashcan, do you have /usr/lib/pkgconfig/pangox.pc?01:08
Trashcanno01:08
Trashcan:p01:08
anatoleanyone knows a tools which is similar to spacemonger in windows? that displays the contents of a hard drive graphically so it's easy to see what uses much place01:08
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boxerboy29anyone have a clue what package adds the debian program list to applications in breezy?01:09
sleon|tuXTrashcan, which version of gtk do are you using?01:10
Trashcani.....don't know :)01:11
naliothanatole: xdiskusage or discus01:11
anatolewow thank you nalioth01:11
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sleon|tuXTrashcan, it is something like: dpkg -l *gtk*|grep ^ii01:12
locomortoboxerboy29: eh01:12
locomorto!tell boxerboy29 about repos01:12
boxerboy29all my repos are enabled01:12
locomortoThen what is the problem?01:13
Trashcanlibgtk2.0-0                   2.8.4-0ubuntu201:13
locomortoyou can't safely use the debain repos in ubuntu01:13
locomortoand those have virtualy everything debian has01:13
locomortoTrashcan: and...01:13
locomortoTrashcan: nvm01:14
bjvnForce4, can anyone here elaborate on what this chipset can do out-of-the-box under Ubuntu?01:14
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Trashcan;)01:14
locomortogotta read01:14
Trashcanit's ok, im tired too01:14
sleon|tuXTrashcan, thank you01:14
bjvbecause my old AC97 audio is kind of flaky and im looking at upgrades..01:14
locomortobjv: if you want good audio get a Audigy ZS or somesucg01:14
boxerboy29everytime i install bitchx and alot of other programs it doesnt show up in menu sometimes it adds a debian programs list to menu so i can use said packages and it didnt this time so i asking what is the package name to add that debian list to menu list so i can access those programs01:14
locomortosomesuch*01:14
locomortooh!01:15
locomortohold on01:15
boxerboy29ty01:15
locomorto!tell boxerboy29 about smeg01:15
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boxerboy29ok ty ill check it out01:15
locomortoYou can then add your own Gnome menu entries01:16
eipahi. can anyone check out this forum thread, and help me out? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7077201:16
naliothboxerboy29: console programs WONT show up in the menu01:16
boxerboy29that could be a good reason but even web browsers dont show up like lynx01:17
bjvlocomorto: yeah something with capabilities like the Audigy2 ZS is what id want.01:17
naliothboxerboy29: lynx is a console application01:18
boxerboy29oh i didnt know that01:18
boxerboy29ok thank you01:18
locomortobjv: your not going to find it intergrated01:18
bjvguess im probably not going to find that in onboard though. :P01:18
bjvyeah. :(01:18
arwatewhere has the command mkdirhier gone? its missing after the breezy update01:18
boxerboy29so just type the program in console to run them?01:18
naliothboxerboy29: yes01:18
locomortohey atleast audio works great this way01:18
locomortoie no problems with esd01:18
ablysshow come the clock applet in breezy is not transparent like in previous versions of ubuntu?01:18
boxerboy29ok thank you01:18
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locomortoablyss: it was transperant before?01:19
locomortoablyss: O.o01:19
ablyssvery much so01:19
locomortoablyss: If you want something transparent use gdesklets01:19
arwatealso, after the update, the development libraries of the libsdl packages where missing01:19
locomortoits superkaramba for gnome01:19
markhxxIs there any document/anything that would help me convince corporate types to use Ubuntu? They don't like the name(!)01:19
ablyssoh i cant stand superkaramba01:20
locomortoCentOS01:20
locomortoWhitebox01:20
locomortoThere probably more up there alley01:20
locomortoor maybe redhat if there the if its free it must be crap line01:20
ablyssi just wanna use the gnome clock applet with transperancy01:20
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ablyssbut no biggie, everything else works great01:21
markhxxThe problem is specifically the name - it's felt to be 'not appropriately corporate'. I was hoping I could say 'well, company X uses it' to start with.01:21
thoreauputicmarkhxx: look up "ubuntu" on wikipedia - if they don't get it they are brain dead01:21
FraeonMicrosoft uses Ubuntu for their workstations01:21
locomortomarkhxx: download ubuntu source01:22
thoreauputicmarkhxx: point out the PR advantages of the meaning :)01:22
locomortomarkhxx: change artwork01:22
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locomortomarkhxx: release under 'appropiatly corporate' name01:23
markhxxFraeon, that's great to know. thoreauputic:I've partially done that, but it's a good idea01:23
locomortouse ubuntu repos01:23
HappyFoolheh. tried to play maniac mansion with wine, and the gnome taskbars appeared on top of it (in 320x200 resolution)01:23
searcher`markhxx: that's actually a problem for a lot of the OS software, the names people give their projects01:23
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Fraeonmarkhxx, I was obviously joking01:23
markhxxlocomorto:Yeah, that was my thought too - but it seems a bit dirty :)01:23
markhxxFraeon:Oh really? ;)01:23
FraeonIndeed.01:23
FraeonThough I wouldn't be surprised if they did do that01:24
markhxxThey do have internal Linux guys, but I can't remember what they use. Gentoo, maybe01:24
searcher`microsoft used to run hotmail on freebsd servers01:24
searcher`but they switched to 2k AS a few years ago01:24
ablyssheard they used solaris01:24
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ablyssfew years ago01:25
markhxxsearcher`:Yeah, whoever came up with (for example) the 'gimp' name probably held that project back enormously, IMHO. Thanks for the help guys, I might have to do a customise job.01:25
sarlacc54i just loaded ubuntu onto a PC... did i miss setting up the "root" password?01:25
sarlacc54:(01:25
searcher`i'm running ubuntu hoary, using the gimp, gaim, phoenix^firebird^firefox01:25
searcher`:-)01:25
searcher`ever say that out loud01:26
searcher`hehe01:26
Trashcan!tell sarlacc54 about sudo01:26
ablysssarlacc54, no. ubuntu uses sudo for 99.99% of su things01:26
markhxxyou use sudo sarlacc5401:26
sarlacc54as the root account?01:26
thoreauputic!tell sarlacc54 about root01:26
Goeki wanna install epiphany, but synaptic asks for a cd, that i have given a friend. What do i do?01:26
markhxxexample: sudo ls --> ls runs as root01:26
thoreauputic!root01:26
ubotuit has been said that root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo01:26
locomortoGoek: open synaptic01:26
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locomortogo repos01:26
Trashcansudo -i = complete root shell01:26
markhxxGoek:edit /etc/apt/sources.lst01:26
locomortoand disable the CD one01:26
mahanguuncomment t01:27
Trashcanif you really really must have root01:27
Trashcansudo passwd root01:27
mahangu*it01:27
Trashcanyour password, root password twice01:27
ablysssu "bob" will ask for bobs password and magically switch you into bobs account via the shell01:27
Trashcanright01:27
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Trashcansu 'root' won't do anything until you set a passowrd01:27
Trashcansudo -i or sudo -s will drop you into a shell with root privs01:28
mahangucan i have different wallpapers for each desktop?01:28
luzbelitohi guys. i had problems to surf web pages that uses flash. mozilla get blocked. any help?01:28
Goekwhat's repos?01:28
ablyssinteresting Trashcan01:28
sarlacc54trashcan I R confused01:28
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mahanguluzbelito, need to install the plugin01:29
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thoreauputic!tell Goek about repos01:29
mahangulet firefox do that for you01:29
Trashcanthe security model is such that nothing runs under the root account01:29
mahanguclick 'install missing plugins'01:29
FraeonQuestion: is beagle a performance hit?01:29
Trashcanthis means, if somebody compromises a program like apache, they do not get root privileges01:29
sarlacc54trashcan what account do you use to install the updates?01:29
Trashcanyou use the 'sudo' command01:29
FraeonAs in a noticable one01:29
Trashcanit executes a single command with root privileges01:29
segedoes breezy work ok now? just minor lovely bugs?01:30
ablyssworks nice using gnome01:30
segenot kde?01:30
searcher`Trashcan: apache still has a single process running as root, otherwise it can't bind to a privileged port01:30
Trashcan'sudo apt-get install xxx' runs apt-get, and ONLY apt-get, with root privileges01:30
searcher`Trashcan: it does drop the privileges of the other threads01:30
ablysskubuntu breezy worked nice too01:30
Trashcanthanks searcher- didn't know that01:30
naliothsege: works nicely. only small lovely bugs01:31
ablysssege, just xfce will lock the system, for me at least01:31
luzbelitomahangu, yeah. i installed the plug in. but when i see web pages with a lot of flash, computers doesnt works fine and i must close and open mozilla again. pls help !01:31
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segenalioth: thanks, i'm sick and tired of my computor working like a charm, i have to destroy it with something. =)01:31
ablysscan literally watch the memory meter raise until no memory and system grinds to a halt01:32
searcher`ablyss: do you know the program that's causing the memory leak?01:33
naliothsege: try redhat01:33
Trashcanlawl01:33
ablysssearcher`, i am pretty sure it is xorg threads01:33
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Trashcanthis is going to be exciting01:33
_jasonhow can I erase a cd-rw disc in Ubuntu?01:34
Trashcanhttp://nasm.sourceforge.net/doc/html/nasmdoci.html01:34
Trashcani get to make that01:34
Trashcaninto XML01:34
Trashcan:901:34
Trashcan:(01:34
ablyss<smirk>01:34
segenalioth: haha, running Tao (rebuilt rhel 3/4) at work on ~200 boxes, works fine. sorry to tell. =)01:34
searcher`Trashcan: what, the webpage?01:34
ablyssafkfab01:34
Trashcanmaking a NASM syntax file for gtksourceview01:35
Trashcan/usr/share/gtksourceview-1.0/language-specs01:35
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Trashcanfunny that theres a def in there for MSIL, but no form of ASM01:36
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wertoyo all ^_^01:36
Trashcanhowdy01:37
wertoyo Trashcan01:37
wertoi don't know why the time of my machine run! _ and an mp3 playng too! _01:38
luzbelitohi to all: i cant surf web pages with flash media contents because mozilla is "blocked" when try to show all. plugin installed. any way to cancel flash content?01:38
wertoi've a ubuntu breezy32 bit on a amd64 _01:38
Trashcanwerto: I can't understand you very well01:38
Trashcando you mean, you don't mean how long your computer's been running?01:39
Trashcan(open terminal, type 'uptime')01:39
Penguinif I have compiled something (./configure make make install) Can I delete that directorie after that everything is complete?01:39
wertoTrashcan, sorry for my bad english.. ^_^ so, i've a problem, the time run! when i use linux the cpu clock run01:39
werto:)01:40
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_willcooke_Any MySQL people in here?  I've asked in #MySQL, no response!01:41
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propagandhiPenguin: yes you can if you dont need to install from there again01:41
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propagandhiI know a bit of Mysql01:41
TrashcanI know a tiny bit01:42
Penguinok and if I have to uninstall it propagandhi ?01:42
_willcooke_Know about searching against free text index?01:42
propagandhiyeah01:42
Penguinor update it with a newer version?01:42
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Penguinit will update without first uninstalling it?01:42
propagandhi_willcooke_ something like SELECT * FROM table_name WHERE TextField='%keyword%'01:43
mahanguafter i get an applet01:43
mahanguhow do show it in gnome?01:43
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wertoanyone know what i should do? _01:44
_willcooke_propagandhi, I was doing it that way but I'm trying SELECT * FROM table WHERE MATCH (column) AGAINST ('Search Term');01:44
majnoonjust get phpmyadmin01:44
afd_I've just updated to breezy, but was a rough ride, can anyone paste me a sources.list for breezy on the private?01:44
benkong2could someone tell me what's the difference between EST && EST5EDT in /usr/share/zoneinfo. I am on East Coast time and since this pc only boots ubuntu I use UTC and ntp for time but it's off by 5 hours01:44
_willcooke_propagandhi, and it ain't working!01:44
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propagandhihmm...01:44
TrackilizerIs there any pluglin one can use to enable webcam support with aMSN.01:45
_willcooke_propagandhi, I think I'll go back to using LIKE for now!01:45
propagandhiis there an error or its just not returning any results01:45
afd_or usa a pastebin01:45
cablefishI've heard some interesting rumors that on linux you can find out what your hardware is?01:45
naliothafd_: they are the same as b4, only instead of 'hoary' it's 'breezy'01:45
_willcooke_propagandhi, returns an empty set, so I guess I havent got the syntax quite right01:45
propagandhiyeah that'd be it01:45
bimberiubotu tell afd_ about sources01:45
twibblerHere is a nice question for a sunday... Open Office 2 under breezy does not have the help package .... does anybody know hwere to get it from please ...01:45
propagandhiLIKE is good depending on the scenario01:46
majnoonopenoffice.org ???01:46
benkong2! timezone01:46
ubotubenkong2: Do they come in packets of five?01:46
HappyFoolcablefish: try maybe 'sudo lshw' or look at System -> administration -> device manager01:46
benkong2cablefish; also lspci will show info01:46
cablefishThank you happy01:46
_willcooke_propagandhi, the table has about 3000 entries with a 3 line text field, so LIKE is OK, but if it gets much bigger I'll have to think of a better way!  It's not slow at the moment though, so I guess, if it aint broke, dont fix it!01:47
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propagandhiu using PHP?01:47
RockyBurtsince someone mentioned openoffice2 ... it appears that openoffice2 is stuck using the openoffice2 file dialog rather than the gnome-based dialog ... i thought that was a setting i could change someplace but i can't find it, anyone have any idea?01:47
_willcooke_propagandhi, python01:47
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propagandhiok, so it should be speedy 3000 entries is nothing, my works database has well over 600,00001:48
_willcooke_propagandhi, that's good news!  I'll change it back.  Cheers!01:48
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propagandhino worries, didnt do nothin anyhow!01:48
elc2_hi guys01:48
elc2_need help here01:48
_willcooke_propagandhi, You convinced me to stick with LIKE!01:48
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elc2_hi guys, can anyone help me please01:49
naliothelc2_: ask your questions01:49
propagandhielc2_ explain the problem01:49
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elc2_how can i install openoffice beta 2.0 on ubuntu, sorry cause i'm new in using ubuntu01:50
propagandhielc2_: Hoary?01:50
elc2_yes01:50
benkong2elc2_; comes standard in breezy01:50
zertoxhow do i enable the framebuffer in ubuntu?  Do i have to recompile the kernel for that?01:50
elc2_how's that one?01:50
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sarlacc54trashcan the updates are loading as i type this01:51
propagandhielc2_: u can download the installer from open office.org then use alien to convert to .deb01:51
Trashcan:)01:51
propagandhielc2_: always worked for me on hoary01:51
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sarlacc54trashcan i appreciate the help01:51
sarlacc54:)01:51
Trashcannp01:51
rusty-Hello01:51
rusty-I have installed Kpackage and the programs included are impressive. But I can not log in. When I try to it tells me root authentication failed.01:51
sktrdiehey01:51
rusty-am using ubuntu 5.04. Synaptic, the default package management program does not have some programs that are in Kpackage which I want to install and I am not experienced enough to install a ".tar.gz download.01:51
benkong2elc2_; sudo apt-get install openoffice.org201:52
sktrdierusty- try sudo01:52
rusty-Can someone help me to be able to log into Kpackage ?01:52
naliothubotu: tell rusty- about root01:52
flami just compiled my own kernel, but the splash-image wont work. it says: "intelfb: video mode must be programmed at boot time". is there a easy solution to this problem?01:52
benkong2elc2_; or use synaptic its in the repos01:52
VoXflam: depends on your definition of "easy" :)01:52
naliothubotu: tell elc2_ about synaptic01:52
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naliothelc2_: using synaptic would be the easiest01:53
flamVoX, i want to fix it anyway. do you know how/where to read about it? googled but i didn't find any satisfying page01:53
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VoXflam: check your kernel config, you may(probably) haven't compiled in video-at-boot01:54
benkong2nalioth; looks like breezy is steadily improving. Got my usplash and a new gnome splash with this last batch of updates :-))01:54
anatolere01:54
naliothbenkong2: slowly but surely01:54
anatoledoes anybody know a standalone app for displaying the notification area?01:54
VoXflam: i cant remember where it is in the kernel conf, but it's in there01:54
flamvox, hm, ok. i marked intel and vesa framebuffers with *.. it shouldn't be modules?01:55
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VoXflam: no that's not for boot time. it's in a seperate area to that.01:56
propagandhiflam: are you using an initrd too01:56
flampropagandhi, yes, i compiled the kernel with. make-kpkg --initrd --revision=balbla kernel_image01:57
Trashcanpython has to be the easiest language ever invented01:57
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flami also tried to use the initrd from 2.6.12-8-386 (breezy standard)01:57
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Dalkusif I have two cd drives, how can I eject the second using 'eject' ?01:59
VoXdalkus: "man eject"01:59
naliothDalkus: eject /dev/cdrom0 or cdrom1 or whatever it is01:59
VoXhave a read01:59
VoXor that01:59
VoX:P01:59
Dalkusthank you01:59
VoXand you can use eject -t to close it again01:59
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VoXmajnoon: not always02:00
mahanguhow hard is it to create gnome applet?02:00
Dalkusmajnoon, button dosn't seem tow ant to work :)02:00
VoXmajnoon: eject unmounts and then opens the drive02:00
naliothmajnoon: in linux, the software locks the cdrom02:00
propagandhihas anyone checked out opera 8.5 especially now that its free?02:00
VoXmajnoon: the kernel wont permit the drive to be opened if it's mounted02:00
Dalkusthat was my issue :)02:01
majnooni know you need to unmount it first02:01
VoXmajnoon: just use eject - it does it for you :)02:01
majnooneject unmounts it too then ??02:01
rusty-propagandhi: I've been using opera since it went free as in beer02:01
Dalkusmount wants to know the filesystem type to mount an audio CD - what should I specify?02:01
rusty-propagandhi: I've been thinking about using opera instead of firefox. Opera seems alot smoother.02:02
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WebLOCHhello02:02
propagandhiopera is awesome02:02
VoXmajnoon: it sure does02:02
HappyFoolDalkus: you can't mount music CD's, as far as i know02:02
HappyFoolDalkus: what do you want to do?02:02
DalkusHappyFool, how can I read one then?02:02
rusty-propagandhi: indeed02:02
propagandhii like it being central for mail, IRC and browsing02:02
Dalkusjust play the music, but my drives don't seem to automount02:02
rusty-propagandhi: The only bad thing is that it's not FLOSS02:02
VoXpropagandhi: it fails on amd6402:02
HappyFoolDalkus: use a cd-ripper tool, like sound juicer or cdparanoia02:03
rusty-And that it badly renders some sites.02:03
rusty-It might have some problems with javascript.02:03
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rusty-I'm not also sure about java and flash as I don't use them.02:03
DalkusHappyFool, but I just want to listen to it - I don't want to rip it?02:03
propagandhiVox: damn02:03
HappyFoolDalkus: oh02:03
VoXpropagandhi: yeah.. have to use firefox.. which im not happy about :(02:03
HappyFoolDalkus: applications -> sound and video -> cd player02:03
kevorhmm, i've installed the dutch language package, but when i login with a user using the Dutch language i get the erro: nl_NL.UTF-8 Language thingy not found... is there a solution for htis?02:03
Dalkusyep02:03
Dalkussays drive error02:03
WebLOCHVoX have you tried Galeon or Epiphany ?02:03
propagandhiI still use firefox, and yes there are some rendering issues02:03
HappyFoolDalkus: mounting won't fix that02:04
Dalkuswhat will?02:04
propagandhibut overall its a good net suite02:04
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VoXWebLOCH: yeah, dont like anything apart from opera, really02:04
HappyFoolDalkus: it doesn't give any more details?02:04
Dalkusnope02:04
Dalkusi had to manually mount a dvd the other day to play it in xine02:04
HappyFooldvd's are different02:05
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HappyFoolhmm02:05
majnooneject unmounts it too then ??02:05
Dalkusmajnoon, yes02:05
Dalkustries to02:05
HappyFoolDalkus: well, it works here02:05
majnoonthat cool02:05
propagandhitheres some really nic skins for opera too02:05
HappyFoolDalkus: can you try a different music cd?02:06
DalkusHappyFool, all the same :)02:06
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HappyFoolDalkus: hmm. sorry, not sure what the problem is; maybe look in dmesg to see if the kernel reports any errors02:06
Dalkusthanks anyway :)02:07
majnoonactually re-installinng mepis here02:07
twibblerOK been all through the opneoffice.org web site, and synaptic, and still can't find the help package... I guess it is included in the full download from openoffice but is there just a package I can install (i.e. repository)02:08
notactionHi. I'm a total newbie to anything Linux, and I don't want to wade through a million pages to get to the solution of the problem that I'm having at this moment...Would somebody please give me a hand with something?02:08
propagandhinotaction: ask02:09
VoXnotaction: whats the pron02:09
VoX*prob02:09
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VoXmmm pron02:09
majnoonwe know where Vox surfing ???02:09
VoXhaha nah, was just a typo02:10
VoXopera appear to have removed the amd64 version02:10
VoXbastards02:10
propagandhiVox: that really sux02:10
WebLOCHDoes wget start multiple threads?02:11
notactionHeh. OK, I've installed Ubuntu on a virtual machine, since I want to try it before I make any sort of commitment. So, I need to install a sort of driver package called "VMware Tools" so that the graphics and mouse get to be a little more responsive. But after installing it, I got an error message when I tried to configure it, let's see if I can replicate it... One moment please02:11
propagandhihaha has anyone seen the screenshots of windows vista02:11
WebLOCHIve run the preview Prof_Frink02:11
WebLOCHIve run the preview propagandhi02:12
DjKriticalpropagandhi, nah I havn't yet... I'm a little bit interested now tho02:12
propagandhiis it any good or just trash again02:12
twibblerpropagandhi: after breezy why bother ...02:12
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propagandhiwell, its interesting to see how much its actually going to grow02:13
propagandhii wont be using it personally, but still02:13
VoXi have one windows box02:13
VoXfor the sole purpose of backing-up my o2xda02:13
twibblerpropagandhi: I heard a rumour you need 2gig Ram to make it work well ...02:13
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WebLOCHhey twibbler did you ever get your sound sorted?02:13
VoXthats all it does..02:13
propagandhiit wouldnt suprise me02:14
twibblerWebLOCH: oh yea .........02:14
DjKriticaloh my god... I'm looking at the screen shots now... ms internet explorer is totally ripping on firefoxs tabs thing02:14
afd_where can I configure samba?02:14
afd_to browse the local network?02:14
propagandhiyeah they finally figured out tabs02:14
kentWhere is the screenshots of vista?02:14
WebLOCHpropagandhi, it looks like macosx to me02:14
notactionOK, here's the error. >>This configuration program is to be executed out of an XFree86 session. Please shut down all instances of XFree86. << How do I go about shutting down XFree86...and how do I get it back when I'm finished?02:14
Tomcat_DjKritical: I doubt there are many ways in which you can present tabs to the user that would not be ripping off.02:14
WebLOCHpropagandhi, all this aero nonsense02:14
propagandhiyeah my opinion is its all eye candy02:14
propagandhiand it looks like a cross between mac and a nicely skinned linux/unix box02:15
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propagandhilike Superkaramba everywhere02:15
WebLOCHAnd everyone seems to be up for this rubbish where your filesystem is magically interlinked so your music knows where images are and willautomatically select the best match for an album cover and the write you a blog report on it and post it to the interwebs.02:15
notactionHeh, I've been raised on Win 98, 2k, and now XP. It's all fischer-price and babyish02:15
VoXpropagandhi: with 400% bloat02:15
DjKriticalalso... if you have a look at their file browsing... it's all using the whole "my this, my that" idea.. which is kinda silly...02:15
WebLOCHI'm quite happy with a computer that I do the thinking for02:15
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VoXand it's still going to be amazingly vulnerable..02:16
propagandhioh yeah02:16
kentpropagandhi, where is the screenshots your looking at?02:16
VoXwell no..02:16
DjKriticalhttp://news.com.com/2300-1016_3-5805994-2.html02:16
VoXit's still going to be _unsurprisingly_ vulnerable02:16
propagandhii'm not looking at any currently myself02:16
propagandhibut i checked heaps out last night02:16
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twibblerBut remember without windozee we wouldn't have had the desktop revolution ..... But maybe somebody would have done something different ...02:16
propagandhiread a few beta test reviews too02:16
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propagandhiactually, the win 3.1 was a hack of an apple desktop manager02:17
Ofetwibbler: wasn't mac the first one to publish a graphic interface? Lisa?02:17
propagandhiyeah02:17
notactionPah, user-assigned rating. Anyone can look at an image and instantly decide for themselves whether they like it.02:17
DjKriticalWhens the release of brezy?... it's this month some time isn't it?02:17
WebLOCH13th02:17
propagandhibut thats all it is, rating the eye candy factor02:17
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twibblerOfe: yep, but windozee did win (unfortunately) as Mac is by far the better machine ...02:17
propagandhiits not going to make windows a good os02:18
propagandhiall they've done is give it a new skin and a few extra links and gadgets02:18
mahanguis writing a gnome applet easy?02:18
WebLOCHI think my biggest problem with windows is it starts off nice and speedy, and then over a period of weeks. it caches every de-optimisation it can think of, and persists in slowing itself down :(02:18
DjKriticalpropagandhi, you hit it right on the head... it's all eye candy.. and it's the same windows.. a lot of people out there are going to pay good money for it too... it will probably go slower... it will probably do exactly the same as xp... but it looks nice?02:19
propagandhiWebLOCH: totally agree02:19
twibblerWebLOCH: hence me moving to Breezy ....02:19
VoXif install a new kernel image thru synaptic, will it automaticly insert the new kernel into gru... nevermind02:19
WebLOCHWindows XP/2003 is a good operating system family, they just aren't AS good02:19
propagandhiyeah but i can make my box look just as nice with a little effort and the total price comes to $002:19
DjKriticalyeah same here02:20
WebLOCHAnd to be honest, if Windows XP were made open source suddenly, it would recieve thousands of developers, and probably become a much better OS02:20
OfeWebLOCH: same problem here. I used (and still use) winXP on my gamingcomputer for 3 years without re-installing. got kinda slow you might say. :P02:20
WebLOCHOfe exactly, windows just "bogs down" for no apparent reason02:20
propagandhiI just feel windows is for a whole different user market02:20
notactionWindows bogs down because of the stupid registry02:20
propagandhilinux/unix and mac are far superior in millions of other ways, windows is user and dummy friendly02:21
WebLOCHnotaction, wwell theres a collection of reasons, but it seems to increment its demise with every passing day, but i dont change system settings every day, so its not just the reg02:21
holycowthe registry isn't a bad idea, theirs is too complex and is in a binary format so its easily corruptible02:21
Ofeone thing I wonder about that was that when I finally re-installed it the "windows"-folder was just 600megs. the old one was 4gt. for no apparent reason, if we're not including updates and useless logs.02:21
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WebLOCHOfe, I don't know I made custom discs02:22
holycowi'm paraphrasing just what i read tho, lol, i don't have a clue, its a tought question if you scan the different attempts at centralized settings approaches02:22
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Garyuanyone know good podcast-software?02:23
propagandhithe amazing thing about linux is it's come out of a community of good will and faith in each other, with a very small budget, and windows has spent billions making their OS02:23
Garyurss-like aggregator or the like?02:23
notactionhm, well.. Linux looks nice, but it's a bit of a maze, I find. I have no idea how to get around here..... About that error message I got, can someone offer any advice?02:23
holycowpropagandhi, i would say that mac is more dummy friendly02:23
VoXagreed02:24
propagandhiholycow: i agree02:24
holycowworking with windows users for years and years has taught me one thing:02:24
holycowthey are the cheapest bastards you will ever meet02:24
VoXheh02:24
propagandhiha ha ha02:24
holycowits that cheapness that makes them buy stuff that is poorly designed and engineered02:24
Ofebtw, does anyone know did they really give up the "spagetti code" in microsoft and started to code Vista in a whole new way?02:24
propagandhinotaction: most people find it very hard to navigate etc when they start, its all the Windows embedded in everyones brains02:24
holycowthey think they are saving 40 bucks by not paying it up front, but they pay for it in thousands in the back end in servicing and repair costs02:25
VoXOfe: doubt it02:25
HappyFoolnotaction: what are you trying to do? configure X?02:25
twibblerAfter speaking to a customer who wanted a document server... quote 4000 for Win server and business software etc etc etc , offered linux samba alternative quater of price ...... sums up windows I think ...02:25
VoXheh i came across a windows 3.1 error in win2k3 a few days back02:25
holycowpropagandhi, yeah, that happens even to educated people and pros02:25
FraeonI've never actually contacted Microsoft for my problems...02:25
FraeonAnd I've done loads of stuff.02:25
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holycowtakes ps users, you will never find a pro ps user that can learn gimp ... it never happens, ps is burned in peoples minds as THE way raster apps should work02:26
holycow*shrug*02:26
notactionHappyFool, No. Trying to configure VMware Tools (I'm running Ubuntu on a virtual machine02:26
propagandhiI still administer a whole network of windows stations, and i can see some merit in windows features here and there, but i can achieve so much more in such a smaller time frame under linux02:26
elc2_hi guys02:26
FraeonPS is the superior program, though.(then again, it costs, so it should be)02:26
Ofeholycow: there's gimpshop, isn't there?02:26
LokeDKHow do I backup my mails in thunderbird? and import them in evolution02:26
twibblerls02:26
DjKriticaltwibbler, I recently read to reports on the costs of operating systems... as a web server.. linux wins (for obvious reasons)... but as a desktop machine... windows came out on top... however.. I don't think they had looked into Ubuntu as a desktop machine =)02:26
holycowbut overall its the windows users cheapness that really has created the windows situation, and windows by extension02:26
FraeonBut for the simple web graphics I do, it's Gimp and Inkscape that are more than enough02:27
propagandhihow could windows come out on top02:27
VoXpeople stick with the Devil They Know\02:27
propagandhias cheapest02:27
holycowOfe, the problem with gimpshop, or win shortcuts for gimp is that gimp and ps will NEVER map 1:1 in terms of features02:27
VoXalways have, always will02:27
DjKriticalI'm starting up a business which deals specifically with converting businesses to open-source software02:27
holycowOfe, not only that, the features cannot work identical in some cases because of patents02:27
DjKriticalpropagandhi, support and the wages to pay a linux engineer compared to a windows engineer02:27
HappyFoolnotaction: hmm. well, you can try killing X 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop'02:28
twibblerDjKritical: Ive heard that too.... but it depends on the report... We have just switched our desktops to ubuntu and have saved hundreds ... by not having to buy new machines etc ..02:28
holycowOfe, therefore what happens with gimpshop is that its 80% similar and you end up being frustrated with the last 20%02:28
HappyFoolnotaction: to restart, 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start'02:28
propagandhiwell, if you have an in-house linux specialist, you;d be right02:28
notactionHappyFool, sprry, what is "sudo"?02:28
holycowOfe, the proper method is to do what all people do, sit down and learn the app and how it works, its shortcuts, its workflows, its pros/cons and use the tool for the job.02:28
DjKriticaltwibbler, I think most linux distros would cost a lot to maintain especially if your users are "windowfied"... however Ubuntu is the exception... it's so user-friendly!02:28
HappyFoolnotaction: runs commands as root (super-user)02:29
VoXnotaction: it's a command that lets "normal" users execute administrator(root) commands02:29
holycowOfe, ps users cannot do that, i've had infinite discussions with them and they insist that gimp MUST work like ps02:29
HappyFool!tell notaction about sudo02:29
FraeonWell, I don't know...02:29
propagandhiany linux distro just about can be that user firendly. If i was to deploy it at my work, I'd skin it like windows, and get all the apps happening, they'd barely notice the difference02:29
holycowpropagandhi, i wouldn't02:30
twibblerDjKritical: I was looking for 18months for a replacement to Windows, now there are a few linux distros ... and they are coming on in leaps and bounds .... but I still think 6 months before Linux is fully there ..... (And windows engineer costs are high)...02:30
wertohei02:30
notactionCool beans, HappyFool02:30
holycowpropagandhi, you would get a situation like xandros, its 80% there but its the 20% that frustrates them02:30
Ofeholycow: I'm not good with ps and I've never tried gimp so far for any other purpose that viewing pictures. I have the problem you're just talking about; I can't use linux because I've been using windows for 4 years. "where's the .exe?"02:30
Fraeonpropagandhi, Linspire does that :>02:30
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holycowbecause linux will never be 1:1 like windows02:30
FraeonAnd Xandros, I think02:30
propagandhiit depends on what the users doing though02:30
holycowpropagandhi, its much more productive to tell them its different and teach them02:30
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DjKriticaltwibbler, Windows XP Replacement = Ubuntu.... Windows 2003 Server Replacement = Debian or Ubuntu02:31
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holycowpropagandhi, i have a debian workstation 'sarge' pilot, it took 5 minutes to explain open office and internet use, and took them two weeks to get comfortable02:31
holycowjust a single example, not really representative tho02:31
twibblerDjKritical: Never used a windows server and never would ... always used Unix and lately Fedora ... but Ubuntu server is very good ...02:31
holycowOfe, EXACTLY.   you got it exctly right02:31
DjKriticalYou just need to start small... Email, Internet and Office... then move from there02:31
notactionLook it's the tok'ra <ubuntu> coming to kill off the goa'uld02:32
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Mazrimhello all02:32
propagandhiholycow: thats prett well what i mean though, i could kit our users out very quickly with a familiar-ish interface and it would only serve to reduce the transition time02:32
kemiklinux is still inferior to windows in soo many aspects02:32
propagandhithe default interface u get in ubuntu isnt great02:32
kemikhardware support anyone.. ?02:32
holycowOfe, as a side note, stick around.  the knowledge will be absorbed through osmosis tho.  :)02:32
DjKriticaltwibbler, I think just about any distro would be better than a windows server =)02:32
holycowpropagandhi, ah.  *nod*02:32
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Mazrimyeah02:32
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Mazrimwell, windows only has the hardware support becuase it has so much $$02:33
FraeonI like the default Gnome interface02:33
deFryskkemik, for hardware support contact the hardware makers02:33
Ofeholycow: I'll be here for a couple of weeks and I'll be surfing the newbieforums @ www.ubuntuforums.org02:33
notactionHappyFool, wiki.ubuntu.com doesn't appear to be running at the moment.02:33
DjKriticalpropagandhi, considering I've always been crap at installing X... I was very happy with the default interface for ubuntu =)02:33
wertonobody know what i should do? my cpu clock runs and mp3 playng runs too! _02:33
VoX\o/ i got opera working02:33
kemikMazrim:  no, because windows has 95% of the desktop market02:33
wertoi'm in trouble :D02:33
HappyFoolnotaction: erk, really?02:33
holycowpropagandhi, i like ubuntu for those sorts of reasons i guess.  the gnome philosophy is great for newbs, i can sit anyone down and say 'find internet' and they do.  or say 'find writer and write a document' and they do02:33
propagandhihardware support in linux is getting so much better at a rate of knots02:33
twibblerDjKritical: definetly .......      and Now Ubuntu is a good replacement for Windows .... we just need the distros to bring the common functionality together and the software suppliers will start providing more for linux ...02:33
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notactionWait... it says "connected" now02:33
MazrimI used to be a KDE fan, but now I like the simplicity of cnome02:33
kemikyes. hardware support is getting better02:33
Guggihello all, im trying to switch from suse to ubuntu02:33
FraeonBut I don't care whether something's open source or not, so long as it WORKS. That's why I prefer Opera to Firefox02:33
kemikbut it's still miles away from the windows drivers02:33
propagandhiholycow: yeah i absolutely love ubuntu dont get me wrong, its a masterpiece02:34
elc2hi guys02:34
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FraeonAnd Windows isn't perfect either: bluetooth is a bitch to get working on XP02:34
kemikGuggi:  nice.. goodluck02:34
Trash[sleep] night02:34
propagandhibut i do personally prefer KDE as desktop02:34
deFryskkemik, and why would that be ?02:34
holycowOfe, my personal opinion (which i really useless) would be to just give it time. don't rush it.  if you are ever frustrated, walk away for a few days and let all the new knowledge distill it self02:34
sarlacc54Trash[sleep] : take care!02:34
Mazrimkemik: actually, slightly less, as 6% is mac, and a small percent is linux02:34
kemikdeFrysk:  because linux has too few users so hardwaremanufacturers dont see a good reason to develop linuxdrivers02:34
notactionAre there any resources on the command prompt?02:34
Mazrimfirefox works02:35
Guggiinstallation of ubuuntu fails while loading e2fsprofs-udeb complaing about bad install-media, but the cd installs fine on another pc02:35
Secreth`Xhiya all02:35
Ofeholycow: I'm being forced to learn how to use ubuntu. The computer I have windows in is 350km away from me, in my own apartment. :)02:35
kemikGuggi:  maybe the cd-reader is bad02:35
deFryskkemik, so contact them and complain there02:35
wertoso.. nobody can't help me? ___02:35
holycowOfe, 'forced'?  do tell! :)02:35
kemikdeFrysk:  im just balancing the discussion02:35
twibblerkemik: But they are providing linux drivers... take Brother ... every printer has there own driver and other companies are doing the same ...02:35
Guggikeramik: i checked against md502:35
holycowOfe, and how do you like it? are you completely new to it?02:35
Mazrimwerto: whats your problem?02:35
Secreth`XI`ve got (probably a dumb) question..02:35
kemikall ppl in here are a bit "linux is the best...!!! wohoooo" and its not so simple02:35
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propagandhiKyocera release heaps of linux drivers too02:35
dv_hi02:35
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Mazrimhi02:36
dv_trying to get the nw802 driver to work02:36
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dv_but it doesnt compile :|02:36
VoXkemik: that's a bit generic02:36
holycowtwibbler, brother releases linux drivers?02:36
wertoMazrim, mi cpu clock runs _ the time runs so much, and when i try to play mp3 it runs too! _ they're speed up02:36
holycow*blink* this i gotta see02:36
werto(sorry for my bad english :))02:36
propagandhiand samsung02:36
holycowfor linux?02:36
deFryskkemik, linux is better then lms , ist safer on line and easyer to install and its more stable02:36
dv_because the "/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-k7/build" dir is mising02:36
dv_+s02:36
twibblerholycow: yep for virtually every model I have two brother network printers working great ...02:36
dv_anyone has an idea?02:36
DjKriticalThe only reason why I still NEED windows is for games... however! This is only because I'm a noob and can't get cedega working for the life of me... but as soon as breezy badger comes out I'm going to try again... apparently directx games actually run faster using cedega!?02:36
Mazrimwell, I got ndiswrapper to work, which is good, cuz I don;t need to pay for linuxloader02:36
holycowtwibbler, working great and manufacturer providing drivers are two different things02:37
Secreth`XIs it possible to have Windows installed on e.g C:\ and Ubuntu on e.g F:\ at the same time?02:37
FraeonDjKritical, cedega is far from the optimal solution to play games02:37
ArjenSdv_, have you installed build-essentials?02:37
holycowif you check on linuxprinting.org, brother isn't exaclty known for linux support if you know what i mean02:37
holycowhp is however02:37
Mazrimwerto: I'm sorry I can't help you, I know very little about Ubuntu02:37
Anak1nSecret'X: yes02:37
twibblerholycow: using provided drivers ...02:37
VoXSecreth`X: yes02:37
kemikSecreth`X:  yes, but it wouldnt be called C: and F: in linux02:37
FraeonYou'll experience loads of extra bugs in your games AND they'll be slower.02:37
Secreth`Xok02:37
wertoMazrim, oh, thanks02:37
werto:)02:37
holycowtwibbler, those are written by third parties02:37
DjKriticalFraeon, other than Emulation? or Dual boot? what other option is there?!02:37
Ofeholycow: I got this old computer to be an internetcomputer for my parents because I got the faster one with me when I moved out. Now I'm back at the parents house for a couple of weeks and the only computer here has Ubuntu. This couldn't even run Win XP if I wanted to. :) I like the lightness of ubuntu and the ease of installation. But I'm still having trouble with internet-connection and had lots of problems with modem-compability and use.02:37
holycowif you look on their website there are no linux drivers that i can see02:38
dv_ArjenS, apt-get says "not found"02:38
Secreth`Xbut can I still choose what OS I could use?02:38
twibblerholycow: but they came from the brother site ... and are supported by brother .....02:38
holycowinfact, a lot of their printers are gdi printers02:38
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FraeonDjKritical, I'm not saying there's another option. I'm just saying that cedega isn't really that good an option.02:38
holycowwhich are windows only piece of crap printers02:38
ArjenSdv_, that might be a typo on my side, let me check for the name02:38
kemikOfe:  ubuntu w/ gnome is no 'lighter' than windows xp02:38
FraeonAt least if you want to take your time PLAYING the games instead of trying to set them up02:38
VoXOfe: i've got xp running on a p2/350 with 128mb ram and 4gig of hd02:38
Nicks68If I install 5.10 beta, do i have to reinstall again then the real one comes?02:38
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HappyFoolSecreth`X: you can install both windows and ubuntu (though C:/F: are not really ubuntu concepts)02:38
DjKriticalFraeon, damn... well.. even if I can just get a free 3d games working.. then I can get rid of the dual boot atleast02:38
Ofeholycow: and yes, I'm completely new to linux. Ubuntu's the first linux-distro I've never used.02:38
naliothNicks68: no. apt-get will upgrade you easily02:38
ArjenSdv_, it's build-essential02:39
Mazrimnicks68: probably not, just update02:39
Secreth`XHappyFool, ok but can I still choose wich OS i use?02:39
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VoXNicks68: i've been using 5.10 for 2 months now, running sweet02:39
DjKriticalthen the only thing left that ticks me off is the people who are using winrar instead of winzip... for the life of me I can't unrar anything in ubuntu02:39
Anak1nSecret'X: yes02:39
mahangucan i order breezy via shipit yet?>02:39
kemikSecreth`X:  install windows first, then install ubuntu and you'll have Grub as bootloader02:39
VoXbreezy + amd64 = teh winnar02:39
Mazrimlol02:39
holycowOfe, neato, having your parents on ubuntu is perfect.  you wont be cleaning spyware in two months from now02:39
Mazrimnice vox02:39
Ofekemik: well, atleast this is lighter than Mandrake on defaultsettings. It was installed at this computer (500mhz celeron with 128sdr-ram) and it kept swapping.02:39
VoXit's true :)02:39
HappyFoolSecreth`X: yip. do as kemik suggests02:39
Secreth`Xkemik, Anak1n, thanks02:39
holycowOfe, just make sure they don't have sudo access, when you get a chance to look into that sort of admin stuff :)02:40
Mazrim200/1010 1h25mins to go02:40
kemikOfe:  well, lighter than mandrake could be, but you compared it with windows xp :)02:40
Secreth`XHappyFool, thanks02:40
propagandhiis anyone in here using kde02:40
dv_ArjenS, didnt do anything02:40
VoXMazrim: compiled a 2.6.12 kernel, including modules, in under 15minutes.02:40
dv_there is still no build dir02:40
Nicks68Can i upgrade from debian 3.1 to ubuntu with apt-get (and a new sourse.list)?02:40
kemikOfe:  anyways, if you want even faster loading, less swapping etc i'd recommend you to use XFCE or icewm as windowmanagers instead of gnome02:40
VoXNicks68: errr probably not02:40
naliothpropagandhi: ask in #kubuntu02:40
Mazrimvox: yeah, but I have to dl the whole new 5.1002:40
dv_oh, wait.02:41
twibbleranyway all... have a good day I have to go do some work ...02:41
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propagandhino question to ask just wondering was all02:41
VoXMazrim: i'm just giving an example of my extreme leetness in processing power02:41
dv_it installed the build dir in the 2.6.10-5-386 dir, and not in the k7 one02:41
ArjenSdv_, try linux-headers-k702:41
Ofekemik: I've got to admit that I didn't even try to install XP to this. :) I just though that XP = ~mandrake when it comes to "heavyness".02:41
Mazrimpropagandhi: I use it w/ Gentoo02:41
propagandhiahh Gentoo, i liked gentoo, but its too high maintenance02:42
VoXgentoo is the linux for ricers02:42
kemikOfe:  ubuntu w/ gnome = xp in 'heaviness'02:42
Mazrimvox: oh, right, lol, yeah, well, gentoo kernel compile took about 10 w/ gentoo, but gentoo is less bloated than ubuntnu02:42
kemikOfe:  but as i said, if you wanna quicken up stuff, use icewm or xfce02:42
VoX"ZOMG I E-MERGED THIS SOURCE, AND NOW IT'S 0.00197453% FASTER!!!!!!!"02:42
propagandhiMazrim: thats the thing that gets to u02:42
Nicks68Thanks Vox, naliothm and Mazrim02:42
Mazrimfluxbox02:42
propagandhiall the compile time02:42
Ofekemik: I got 2 x 64mb of sdr more to this so there's no more swapping now. Are XFCE and icewm as easy (and this is important, this computer is going to be with my parents "alone" for half an year") and windows-like?02:42
deFrysklol VoX02:43
propagandhilike compiling kde - 6 to 12 hours02:43
Secreth`Xlol @ VoX02:43
VoXit's true02:43
dv_oh fuck02:43
Mazrimpropagandhi: yeah, and having the recompile the kernel every 5 minutes02:43
VoXhave a look at some gentoo forums02:43
dv_now it rains compiler errors... bah02:43
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propagandhiand emerge -Uvd worl02:43
kemikOfe:  i think they're easy.. but you could have trouble connecting usb devices perhaps...02:43
propagandhiworld02:43
dv_so no webcam in ubuntu. bad.02:43
holycowOfe, not even close.  stick to gnome if you can.  how much ram does their system have?02:43
deFryskgentoo is slower during compiling ..... so whats the point of compiling ?02:43
kemikOfe:  just apt-get them and try them out ;) i'd recommend xfce firsthand.. think it's more noob-friendly for you parents =)02:44
Mazrimyeah I hate how it won't let you install some packages w/o bending over backwards02:44
holycowOfe, ram and hard drive speed really make the most difference.  also vid card would be third in line for your parents workload02:44
holycowcpu speed you can skimp on02:44
propagandhicompiling can have its benefits, but a good disto has well-optimised packages for various architectures too02:44
VoXdeFrysk: because /after/ it's compiled, it's 0.0000$something_unnoticeable% faster02:44
elc2hey guys, can any one help me how to install openoffice2.0 in ubuntu?02:44
kemikvideocard ? unless they play 3d games a new videocard won't do jack02:44
deFryskVoX, how l33t that is :D02:44
Ofekemik: uh oh. this has to have digital camera support (usb). I haven't even tried to get that working yet.02:45
ArjenSelc2, in hoary?02:45
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VoXelc2: run 'synaptic', search for "openoffice" and install it02:45
MazrimdeFrysk: well, its faster if you choose every mod to compile but, it becomes a pain adding mods and recompileing02:45
Ofeholycow: 128mb + 2x64mb = 256mb sdr. :) 500mhz celeron.02:45
elc2yes hoary hedge hog02:45
kemikOfe:  that's no-pain in gnome at least.. i had to struggle abit with it in xfce, but i had done the serverinstall for that system so maybe you wont hae to tweak around at all02:45
VoXdeFrysk: God knows i cant spare the 0.00000000000016295 of a second that the extra hour of compile time cost me.02:46
VoX</sarcasm>02:46
holycowOfe, a wee bit on slowish side, but should be okay02:46
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deFryskMazrim, you have to catch up 17 hrs of compiletime before we catch up with the 0001 speedadvantage , howmany years would that take ?02:46
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ArjenSelc2, read this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6231602:46
holycowOfe, at least you have enough ram for most things so thats okay02:46
Ofeholycow: the uses of this computer are 1)need to get on webbank to pay bills. 2) need to get to surf a bit. 3)need to get digital pictures from camera to computer (haven't tried this one yet).02:47
MazrimdeFrysk: its faster than that02:47
holycowshould be no prob at all02:47
VoXamd64 provides a good arguement against bothering with gentoo. everything happens within 1-3 seconds of entering the command. :D02:47
deFryskMazrim, stage 1 install ?02:47
holycowyou said, you had problems with the modem, they are on dialup?02:48
Ofeholycow: yup, dialup. downloadspeed is now 0.8kbps max as it should be 5.6kbps.02:48
VoX"bunzip2 linux-kernel-2.6.12.9-amd64-k8"  <counts 3, 2, 1> done.02:48
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propagandhiin all seriousness though, get through a gentoo install and run and administer the system for a few months and you will have learnt heaps02:48
deFryskpropagandhi, very true02:49
VoXpropagandhi: i'd rather have some form of social life/sanity02:49
VoX:)02:49
propagandhiha ha02:49
MazrimdeFrysk: stage 202:49
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deFryskinstalling*02:49
Mazrimyeah02:49
Mazrimyou do02:49
propagandhibut i wont use it as my OS anymore02:49
holycowOfe, there is a fix for that, i cant remember where i read it but if you use the default utilities to setup the modem thats what you get02:49
propagandhitoo tempting to sit there and tweak and fiddle02:50
deFrysknope , me neither02:50
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holycowOfe, i think you may either need to use a different config utility or rebuild the driver ... i cannot remember02:50
deFryskpropagandhi, exactly i broke it too many times tweaking and fiddling02:50
holycowOfe, but google it, there is a fix, it is obscure tho02:50
Seveasgentoo makes it so easy to break itself02:50
Paradoxxhmm02:50
Seveashell, it will even randomly break without anybody doing anything02:50
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Mazrimlol02:51
Ofeholycow:  by the way, I have a buddy on my computer right now thru ssh. He's trying to fix that problem. He's a linux-user, more experienced than me.02:51
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Mazrimbut the cow logo IS cute02:51
Paradoxxany1else experienceing problems connecting to msn with gaim?02:51
deFryska gentoo distro with binaries only would be intresting tho02:51
Mazrimyes02:51
holycowOfe, cool02:51
Paradoxxbah, nevermind...02:51
Mazrimparadoxx yes02:51
Mazrimparadoxx: keeps disconnecting02:51
kikinovakHi. I'm a slack veteran new to Ubuntu. First install. No way to be root. Googled for it, but the suggested method 'sudo su -' and then 'passwd' doesn't seem to work. (Did an 'expert' mode install because I didn't want Grub to wipe my existing bootloader:oD). Anyway, I get told that my main user is not in the sudoers group. What now? Reboot in single user mode and add the user to... (what?) group?02:51
Paradoxxit JUST worked, like that, i dunno y02:51
deFryskParadoxx, I heard others having probs today with msn02:51
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WebLOCHYeah im having trouble02:52
Paradoxxkk02:52
VoXkikinovak: nah easier way02:52
mztrizhey does anyone know how to get my soundcard wokring? It's an snd cs4536. I got it to work yesterday by typing in cat /ect/ somthing?? I forgot and I didn't realize I had to do it everyday. I should have written it down. But anyway can someone help?02:52
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kikinovakVoX I'm all ears:oD02:52
deFrysk!tell kikinovak about sudo02:52
VoXkikinovak: can you get into X ?02:52
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kikinovakActually I'm on my slack partition... I needed root rights to setup ppp, since I'm on dialup here.02:52
kikinovakVoX but yeah I can get into X02:53
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VoXkikinovak: in x, go to applications -> system tools -> root terminal02:53
kikinovakVox I have kubuntu... is it the same there?02:53
mztrizCan someone help me with my sound card? It's an snd cs453602:53
WebLOCHJesu!02:53
WebLOCHI can't believe it02:54
Ofeholycow: with what phrase should I search for my speedproblem at google? :) I'm not that good at english, sry. :\02:54
holycowno worries02:54
holycow*hmmm*02:54
holycowubuntu linux slow modem speed02:54
holycow:) lol02:54
holycowstart with that, sorry, don't have anything better for ya02:55
Ofebtw: there's a couple more newbies with this problem at ubuntuforums.org. "really slow dowloadspeed with dialup" or somethig was the topic.02:55
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Mazrimvery soon, I will have breezy02:56
Mazrimmuhahahaha02:57
Mazrimthen I will take over02:57
Mazrimmy comuter02:57
Ofeholycow: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=381731#post38173102:57
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StricklinCan you change the permissions of a folder and have it change the permissions of the underlying files as well, or do you have to go through and change those individually?02:58
nerdy2you have to change those individually02:58
naliothStricklin: use the recursive flag02:58
xTinaStricklin: chmod -R is your friend02:59
WebLOCHhaha02:59
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StricklinOkay, walk me through it?02:59
spanglesontoasthow can i be sure i'm using the correct repos03:00
nerdy2chmod -R might be tricky to get right03:00
StricklinI'm extremely new to Linux03:00
holycowlol03:00
holycowi love to hear the "I'm extremely new to Linux"03:00
holycowi just think thats awesome03:00
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holycowwelcome Stricklin :)03:00
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WebLOCHStricklin,  Handy tip... use the "man" command, to check out the manual for a command, like this... "man chmod"03:00
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christian-I'm extremely new to linux03:01
StricklinWebLOCH, here?03:01
holycowStricklin, thats in #debian03:01
holycow>_>03:01
=== holycow noogies christian-
holycowlol03:01
VoXhaha03:01
VoXholycow: so true03:01
holycowindeed :)03:01
Secreth`Xbah03:01
holycowthey are rather 'picky'03:01
Stricklinman chmod03:02
Secreth`XI`ve got a meeting03:02
Secreth`Xcya03:02
VoXStricklin: nono, do it in your terminal window03:02
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holycowthe opes here have actually been very fair, and moderating is reasonable, dudes here answer all sorts of questions and make sure the language is cordial03:02
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Stricklinoh, I thought you might be talking about a bot03:02
holycowits neat to see03:02
Seveas!bot03:02
ubotuI'm a bot, I'm a bot. Set fire to me, I'll get hot. Reply to seveas? I think not. Bot, plot, chicken... rhyming sucks.03:02
drazQhmm, will all my drives show as /dev/hdax (where x is a number) ... cause I can't seem to mount a hd which I just formatted to Ext3 :03:03
drazQ:/03:03
drazQerr.. partitioned03:03
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VoXStricklin: nono :) man stands for Manual. 95% of programs on a linux system have a 'man entry' which means you type "man <program name> and it'll give you the manual for it03:03
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holycowStricklin, there is a command called 'mount'03:04
holycowi dare you to ask someone publicly to check the linux 'manual' for 'mount'03:04
naliothStricklin: you can also use "info" in place of "man'03:04
holycowgiggles all around03:04
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makuhi all03:05
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makuI just installed Ubuntu 5.10 PR03:05
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patrick__howdy maku03:05
makupatrick__, hiya03:05
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naliothmaku: congratulations!03:06
makubut guys, /usr/include is missing all the headers03:06
patrick__and ?? any noticable difference's compared too Hoary ?03:06
wacko_jackohello everyone...03:06
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drazQhi wacko_jacko ! :D03:06
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makupatrick__, gnome 2.12 :))03:06
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wacko_jackoI have a problem with my kernel, will anyone try to help?03:07
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Seveasmaku, duh, why would an ordinary user need headers?03:07
makui have Gigabit Yukon eth card but default installation isnt detecting it03:07
SeveasInstall the relevant packages if you need them03:07
drazQhow do I get more info about e.g. /dev/hda1 (like drive size, etc.)03:07
wacko_jackoseveas: hi, remember me? the mkinitrd didn't work03:07
patrick__A yeah, sounds good, but what i understand is that's mostly eyecandy what's added !!03:07
makuSeveas, the problem is how do i connect to internet as my card is not detected03:07
Toma-anyone tried e17 yet?03:07
Seveasmaku, get a decent card ;)03:07
Toma-well, 16.99903:07
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SeveasToma-, yeah, still as bad as usual (so if you liked it before, you might like it still) :)03:08
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makuSeveas, the kernel has the option for it, but how do i recompile the kernel when all the headers are missing03:08
maku:(03:08
Toma-i see.03:08
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theinemaku, which card is it?03:08
Seveasmaku, what's the driver you need?03:08
makuGigabit Yukon card03:08
Toma-last i tried it, it crashes on me and went crazy03:08
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makui have a toshiba laptop03:08
Seveasmeh, Yukon..03:09
elc2_hi can anyone tell me the easiest way to install open office in ubuntu ?03:09
Seveaswhich option exactly do you need for it?03:09
Seveaselc2_, it's installed by default...03:09
maku& does the preview release cd contains the kernel sources?03:09
Seveasmaku, no, lack of space03:09
wacko_jackoelc2_: do you know how to use apt-get?03:09
elc2_the newest bersion?03:09
Seveas!info openoffice.org2 breezy03:09
ubotuopenoffice.org2: (OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.0), section editors, is optional. Version: 1.9.129-0.1ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 73 kB, Installed size: 192 kB03:09
Seveasthat version03:10
elc2_i think so yes03:10
makuSeveas, how do i get the source for the kernel in PR release?03:10
elc2_how can i install it03:10
Seveasmaku, via the internet ;)03:10
elc2_wacko_jackO_:03:10
Seveaselc2_, it's installed by default on breezy...03:10
makuSeveas, okie03:10
Seveasmaku, which kernel option exactly do you need for it?03:10
elc2_i don't know03:10
makuSeveas, but will it work with gcc403:10
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Seveasmaku, no, the kernel still needs gcc3.403:11
theinemaku, you might want to install a daily build as the official kernel supports the gigabit yukon out of the box since 9/27/0503:11
Seveasbut that one is on the cd03:11
elc2_i want to install the newest version of open office in ubuntu,  can anyone help me03:11
makuSeveas, daily build of what? the kernel from ubuntu ?03:11
mztrizCan someone help me with my sound card? It's an snd cs453603:11
Seveastheine, official kernel as in Ubuntu official or kernel.org official?03:11
anthrax[net] can anybody help me to configure my ubuntu with sound?03:11
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anthrax[net] i've got an soundcard03:11
theineSeveas, ubuntu official03:11
Seveastheine, nice03:11
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theineSeveas, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4761503:12
makuelc2, what system u have? i mean which ubuntu03:12
Seveasmaku, you should get more recent linux-image-2.6.12-9 packages via packages.ubuntu.com03:12
Seveasno need for recompiling03:12
makuok03:12
theinemaku, http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/daily/current/03:12
makuSeveas, thanks03:12
tombshi ppl03:12
Seveastheine, thanks for the info, it has been asked a lot lately :)03:12
theineSeveas, you're very welcome03:12
elc2_ubuntu linux 5.04: The hoary hedgehog03:13
wacko_jackoelc2_: why do you want the latest version? It might not be worth the trouble. I mean, "latest" is relative.03:13
wacko_jackoI updated my kernel (2.6.10-5-386) to security update 2.6.10-34.6 and now it won't boot with error "Kernel Panic- not syncing:VFS:Unable to mount root fs on unknown -block(0,0)" (I'm using hoary with standard sources, not even universe or multiverse). Help. :(03:13
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elc2_i need it for the data base03:13
wacko_jackoelc2_: which version do you need?03:13
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elc2_2.003:13
StricklinWah! I need help! :)03:13
Seveaswacko_jacko, you might want to try this in your chrooted system: dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)03:13
makuelc2, get the latest office rpms from openoffice website, convert them to deb using alien & install using dpkg03:13
wacko_jackoelc2_: which version is included in the standard hoary repositories?03:14
drazQI used partition magic to create an ext3 parition of my deskstar disk .. now I get an "EXT3-fs: unable to read superblock" error when trying to mount it .. suggestions to what I did wrong?03:14
Seveasmaku, eww no03:14
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Seveaselc2_, upgrade to breezy03:14
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Seveashoary has no decent OO.o203:14
Seveasand will never have it03:14
elc2_sorry but i am a new user of ubuntu so your terms are very technnical to me03:14
elc2_if anyone can help me please03:14
Seveaselc2_, upgrade to breezy <--03:14
wacko_jackoseveas: should I chroot from the livecd or do you think it will also be ok to chroot from a different debian-based distro?03:14
elc2_what's breezy?03:14
drazQSeveas: do you know what might cause 'EXT3-fs: unable to read superblock' ?03:15
Seveaswacko_jacko, makes no difference, as long as you are chrooted into your system :)03:15
drazQelc2_: breezy is the newest release of ubuntu03:15
SeveasdrazQ, disk error03:15
Seveaselc2_, for upgrade notes, look in the topic03:15
patrick__wacko_jacko ?? what exactly do you mean ?03:15
makuSeveas, but new ubuntu wont install on the previous one03:15
wacko_jackoseveas: well "uname -r" might give a different value03:15
Seveasif you really need OO.o2 that is your only option03:15
Seveaswacko_jacko, true, but you get the meaning :)03:15
elc2_can you tell me how can i update hedgehog to breezy?03:15
Seveaselc2_, for upgrade notes, look in the topic <---03:16
drazQSeveas: yes, do you have a pointer to what I should do (e..g a tutorial on partitioning the disc for ubuntu .. ext3 can handle 500GB in one partition right?)03:16
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Seveasmaku, upgrades are very easy!03:16
elc2_where is that one?03:16
wacko_jackoseveas: in other words, should I use the ubuntu kernel version or the kernel version from the distro I'm chrooting with?03:16
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ccooke!tell elc2 about breezy03:16
Seveaselc2_, Upgrading to breezy? http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes03:16
drazQelc2_: Upgrading to breezy? http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes03:16
wacko_jackopatrick__:: what are you referring to?03:17
makuSeveas, if u have a working net card :)03:17
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Seveaswacko_jacko, ubuntu kernel package version03:17
patrick__mode +i03:17
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Seveastype dpkg -l 'linux-image*' in the chroot to find out the exact name03:17
patrick__wacko jacko, your reply that i had to change mode to + i (don't understand )03:17
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wacko_jackoseveas: 2.6.10-5-386 or the security update 2.6.10-34.6?03:18
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Seveas2.6.10-5-38603:18
theinemaku, why don't you try a recent daily build of the Ubuntru live-cd and see if your network card is detected03:18
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Seveasmaku, true :)03:18
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Seveasbut if you grab a recent linux-image-* package it will work :)03:19
makutheine, Seveas okie ;-)03:19
Seveasand then you can update the rest03:19
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StricklinI don't understand exactl what -rwxr-xr-x means03:19
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wacko_jackopatrick__: I think you're confused, that  is just some kind of thing in the IRC channel....it wasn't me03:19
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patrick__modus +i03:19
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StricklinI'm guessing rw is read/write?03:19
deFryskyup03:19
SeveasStricklin, it means: regular file with read and execute permissions for everyone and write permission for the owner03:19
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Seveaspatrick__, hint: /umode +i03:20
patrick__oke, it's the BOT i guess, stillhave to find out what that is, thx !!03:20
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patrick__Seveas, done that !!!03:20
theinemaku, http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/daily-live/current/03:20
StricklinWhere can I read up on exactly what that means? I mean, where do folks recommend?03:20
makuSeveas, do i need to get just the packages on http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/base/linux-38603:20
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StricklinIs there like, a newbie's site?03:21
makutheine, i think, i just need the updated kernel & modules.  :)03:21
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kemikStricklin:  the wiki/forums or google or the man-pages03:21
^^PooLups^^hi alll03:21
^^PooLups^^i have a problem on my ubuntu linux03:22
^^PooLups^^i have a lan connction adsl03:22
maku^^PooLups^^, go on03:22
theinemaku, sure, that will suffice of course03:22
Seveasmaku, yeah03:22
makutheine, Seveas okie03:22
^^PooLups^^i have configured router by dhcp protocol03:22
SeveasStricklin, doc.ubuntu.com03:22
patrick__umode help03:22
^^PooLups^^but the connection is very very slow03:22
patrick__help umode03:22
patrick__help /umode03:22
patrick__help -l03:22
^^PooLups^^whot i can do?03:22
patrick__help03:23
Seveaspatrick__, please stop flooding the channel03:23
Seveasread an irc tutorial03:23
patrick__excuse me03:23
deFrysklol03:23
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deFryskpatrick__, always start with an /03:23
deFrysk like /help03:23
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wacko_jackoseveas: I think I might be getting to the source of the problem....I seem to have many kernels here, can I PM you the output of "dpkg -l"?03:24
Seveaswacko_jacko, sure03:24
patrick__thx de Frysk, but i will take the advice, first learn bit more about IRC commands03:24
deFryskpatrick__, google is your friend :)03:24
makuSeveas, when i open http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/base/linux-image-386, there is no link to download this package, it just gives me a dependency download of 2.6.12.903:24
patrick__*smile*03:24
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deFryskpatrick__, and go to #flood to try things03:25
Seveasmaku, sec...03:25
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makuSeveas, oki03:25
patrick__in this channel ?? that doesn't bother others etc?03:25
kemikpatrick__:  no in #flood03:25
kemikthis is #ubuntu03:25
StricklinWhoa! My screen is going all freaky!03:25
patrick__oke !!!03:25
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patrick__enjoy your sunday, ciao !!!!03:26
StricklinWTF?03:26
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deFryskpatrick__, lesson one : /j #flood03:26
^^PooLups^^how i can fix a slow adsl?03:26
^^PooLups^^:03:26
^^PooLups^^i'm desperate03:26
Seveasmaku, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fl%2Flinux-source-2.6.12%2Flinux-image-2.6.12-9-386_2.6.12-9.19_i386.deb&md5sum=388ddf721aea29d55d2f87c63744d08d&arch=i386&type=main03:26
kemik^^PooLups^^:  get fiber ;)03:26
^^PooLups^^is very slow03:27
kemik^^PooLups^^:  if you want good help, you'll have to formulate a good question03:27
makuSeveas, gee... thanks03:27
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^^PooLups^^i have configured with automatic dhcp03:27
^^PooLups^^protocol03:27
^^PooLups^^i have a router03:27
nalioth^^call your ISP03:27
^^PooLups^^all work03:27
^^PooLups^^lan03:27
nalioth^^PooLups^^: call your ISP03:27
^^PooLups^^irc03:27
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nalioth^^PooLups^^: and type in sentences03:27
^^PooLups^^but my wondows go very well03:28
^^PooLups^^and also a mandrake03:28
^^PooLups^^thay all work03:28
^^PooLups^^why?03:28
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Mazrim25 minutes until ubuntu becomes brezzy03:28
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kemik^^PooLups^^:  because writing 2 words / line is spamming03:28
elc2_help03:29
elc2_!03:29
ubotuelc2_: Syntax error in line 103:29
kemik!help03:29
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deFrysk:D03:29
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makuguys whats the difference between 386 & 686 kernels?03:29
elc2_help!03:29
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makuelc2_, yeah03:29
Seveasmaku, the -686 are tuned for P403:29
kemikelc2_:  got a question ?03:29
Mazrimmaku: 386 is older03:29
elc2_how can i update my system to brezzy>03:29
deFryskelc2_, see /topic03:29
Seveaselc2_, 4(!) people gave you the link to the upgrade notes03:29
Mazrimelcs_: open up synatic03:29
SeveasREAD THAT PAGE03:29
makuSeveas, Mazrim, i have centrino, should i go for 686?03:30
elc2_then?03:30
MazrimI dunno03:30
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Mazrimelcs_: hit settings | repos03:30
Seveasmaku, yes03:30
zpierreskicentrino =68603:30
^^PooLups^^ecuseme for my spam...i'm not very able in irc sessions but i have this problem only on the ubuntu pc 2 windows one and a Mandriva too...works well..is a config problem?03:30
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makuSeveas, okie03:30
deFryskelc2_, geez its in the topic , the upgradenotes03:30
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Mazrimelcs_: then replace "hoary" with "breezy"03:31
elc2_where can i find that one03:31
Seveas:S03:31
deFryskgeez03:31
Seveaselc2_, for the last time http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes03:31
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elc2_how can i use that one, i don't even know what to do with it03:32
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Seveaselc2_, READ it03:32
deFrysksmells like trolling ? or is it me ?03:32
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elc2_sorry, to tell you the truth i am a new user03:32
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naliothdeFrysk: you using "Troll Essence nose spray"?03:32
deFryskelc2_, then open that link and READ it03:32
maku& guys, hibernate option, how does it works? when i hibernate, i do see the screen going blank, but how do i restore the session?03:32
deFryskNakkel, just ran out :D03:33
Seveaselc2_, new users should be able to read too...03:33
deFrysknalioth,03:33
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Seveasmaku, when you power it on again it should restore03:33
elc2_technical term!03:33
makuSeveas, it boots up with grub & a everything starts from starting, not the previous session03:33
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Seveasmaku, hmm, that's bad, do you have a swap partition?03:34
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Seveasa big one preferably :)03:34
makuSeveas, nope03:34
ompaulwhere is smeg on the breezy menu?03:34
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makuSeveas, okay...03:34
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deFryskompaul, righklick the menu03:34
makuSeveas, got it03:34
hubsibin wieder da :)03:34
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wacko_jackoelc1_: which terms don't you understand? I will try to explain.03:35
ompaulnot nice - not obvious03:35
wacko_jackoelc2_: which terms don't you understand? I will try to explain.03:35
deFryskompaul, ten go to edit menu03:35
ompauldeFrysk, there :)03:35
StricklinI found this, and it's making for an interesting read: http://catcode.com/teachmod/03:35
spolaive got problems with my printer, i set everthing up but it wont print, under XP its no problem03:35
Seveasompaul, apps -> system tools -> apps menu editor03:35
makuSeveas, but not having swap, will it have a -ve impact? i have 256 mb ram03:35
ompaulSeveas, thanks03:35
Seveasmaku, hibernation uses swap partition to store memory contents03:36
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Seveasthat's why you need a (preferably big) swap03:36
mbpillaispola: which is the printer03:36
makuSeveas, other than hibernation?03:36
spolambpillai, its a canon bjc 420003:37
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spanglesontoastbah ?03:38
spanglesontoast/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/3.3.5/../../../crt1.o(.text+0x18): In function `_start':03:38
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matoAAA03:38
mbpillaispola : drivers available in rpm format excat url in a couple of minutes.  I have to search for it03:38
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spolathx03:39
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spolaits wierd under gentoo it worke like that no hassle03:39
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^^PooLups^^tks for help bye bye :|03:40
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zpierreskiAlthough I can get flash video out of my mozilla firefox flash plugin,  **I can't get any sound!**03:40
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zpierreskiwhat should I do?03:40
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spolait always prints like two lines of pixels then it just quits03:41
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ompaulSeveas, thanks for smeg :) we needed it03:41
naliothompaul: amaranth wrote smeg03:41
steven_good morning everyone03:41
ompauldoh03:41
naliothompaul: amaranth writes smeg03:42
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mbpillaiftspola :ftp://download.canon.jp/pub/driver/bj/linux/03:42
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Seveasexcept that I always recommend it03:42
mbpillaispola :ftp://download.canon.jp/pub/driver/bj/linux/03:42
zpierreskidoes anyone know how to get sound out of the mozilla firefox flash plugin?03:42
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ompaulat least he is not here :)03:42
Seveaszpierreski, wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary03:42
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mbpillaispola :it is in rpm format use alien to convert to deb format and install using dpkg -i filename03:43
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spolawhich one do i need?03:44
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steven_How is sudo secure when your using the same password as the user?03:44
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holycowits not secure at all especially since user passwords are usually trivial03:44
holycowhowever03:44
Mazrimwow03:44
Mazrimthat is reall cool03:44
zpierreskiworks great, thanx a ton Seveas!03:44
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holycowan administrator will normally create an 'administrator' type account that has sudo priviledges with a tough pass03:45
holycowand let the user have access to an account with few or no sudo priviledges for normal use03:45
mbpillaispola : I have not tried :  bjfilter-pixusip4100-2.50-2.i386.rpm and  bjfilter-common-2.50-2.i386.rpm03:45
zpierreskihow can u edit a user's sudo priveleges?03:45
spolasudo only has a password so that someone passing by can't quickly do stuff as root03:46
steven_ok so then how do I disable sudo?03:46
spolathx03:46
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Seveassteven_, remove all users from /etc/sudoers or uninstall sudo :)03:46
mbpillai spola : sudo passwd root to set up root password03:46
naliothsteven_: it's not a good idea to disable sudo or circumvent it03:47
holycowor modify /etc/sudoers for proper access ... i don't know what the possibilities are tho03:47
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naliothsteven_: only the first user has the power. any further users added have no priveleges03:47
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ompaulsteven_ why did someone go to the bother of writing it in '80/81 and someone else go to the bother of writing  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo ?03:48
zpierreskiis that by default steven_?03:48
Secreth`X!windowsdrives03:48
ubotuI heard windowsdrives is Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically03:48
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ompaulsteven_ btw that was retorical - requires no answer03:48
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StricklinI'd like to copy my (Windows) backup Thunderbird mail and mail preferences directory to /etc/mozilla-thunderbird/, but it says I don't have permissions. I'm betting there's an easy fix for that?03:49
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Secreth`Xsry nalioth :p03:49
Shin_Goukihi nalioth , remember me? ^^03:49
steven_nalioth, I have to have real secure loptops for all are customer base and info's are on them.... I would feel better going back to root....03:49
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holycowStricklin, don't do that03:49
Shin_Goukihi nalioth , remember me? ^^ i finished the server install!!!03:49
naliothShin_Gouki: great!03:49
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holycowStricklin, copy it to your home dir /home/user/mozilla/whatever03:49
Shin_Goukihi nalioth , remember me? ^^ i finished the server install, still no gui...03:49
Stricklinholycow, why not?03:49
holycowStricklin, because its stupid, your preferences are in your user dir03:49
naliothShin_Gouki: install xfce403:50
Stricklinoh03:50
naliothubotu: tell Shin_Gouki about apt03:50
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Shin_Goukinalioth, if i got a USB NIC how do i find drivers for it?03:50
Shin_Goukinalioth, not net acces ATM :/ , first i need to get this USB nic workin03:50
holycowStricklin, /etc is for system wide preferences, user specific stuff is in /home, keep your personal settings there03:50
mbpillai spola :try modifying /etc/sudoers   commentout the line starting with %admin03:50
naliothShin_Gouki: you need to find the chipset for the nic (although it should work o-o-t-b)03:50
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Secreth`Xcya guys03:51
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StricklinIs there some way I can get Gnome to stop resizing my windows? It's very annoying.03:54
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holycowwhat do you mean resizing03:54
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Heijmenhey everybody... is there some way to get sound back on my system? took out my speakers last night and after i plugged em back in the sound is gone... what's up with that?03:54
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holycowHeijmen, check to make sure you have not muted the mixr in upper right hand corner ...03:55
holycow... then right click on volume dealy and do 'open volume control'03:55
holycowmake sure your mixer settings are correct03:55
holycowin the mixer under 'file change device' you can select the proper sound device for your system03:56
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holycowgive that a shot first03:56
makuhi all, i'm back, had a powercut :)03:56
StricklinIf I move to /home/foo/ and maximize it, when I move backwards to /home it goes back to being minimized03:56
holycowStricklin, you aren't 'moving' anywhere03:57
holycowyou misunderstand03:57
holycowyou have two options:03:57
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holycowa) user non spatial nautilus from application/system/file browser03:57
holycowthat will get you windows like file browser03:57
VegarIs it possible to migrate from debian to Ubuntu without reinstalling the system?03:58
comforteaglewhere can I find a current list of repos for hoary?  I used the ubuntuguid, but it cant03:58
nightswimI wouldnt count on it03:58
holycowor b) what you are using now is 'spatial nautilus'.  spatial nautilus remember each individual windows position and size, and ech folder is opened in a new window03:58
comforteaglefind java/azureus etc etc03:58
StricklinWell, the good news is I have mail for the first time in several days :)03:58
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holycowStricklin, what you actually want to do is mix both forms of nauitlus for specific file management tasks03:58
holycowdifferent types of work require different workflows, its nice to have the option03:59
basti__Why is my startpage www.whatuseek.com and I cant remove it? =(03:59
naliothcomforteagle: ubuntuguide is poison03:59
naliothubotu: tell comforteagle about sources03:59
Stricklinholycow, so, if I go to /home/foo/ and maximize it, the next time I view that directory it'll be maximized already?03:59
holycowbut you are NOT moving backward and forward, you are litterally opening new windows and closing old ones in 'spatial nautilus'03:59
holycowStricklin, correct03:59
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Heijmenholycow, thanxxx for the help... not working tho, nothing's changed. dunno...03:59
holycowHeijmen, if nothing is changed the speakers don't work?03:59
Stricklinoh, well... maybe that's better :)04:00
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Heijmenholycow, guess so, heh, they worked yesterday, but yeah, who knows... thanxxx for the help tho04:00
holycowStricklin, remember its just a tool, learn the tool and learn how it behaves, then figure out how to use it best04:00
dpro\how do i make programs like cups stop loading at startup?04:01
holycowStricklin, most people get stuck on the immediate emotional impression of something like 'spatial nautilus'04:01
basti__Am I the first one to get my Firefok hijacked in ubuntu? :(04:01
holycowStricklin, breezy will have an updated nautilus with an interesting twist to spatial04:01
holycowbasti__, what do you mean hijacked?04:01
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holycowyou mean a popup?04:02
Snarkhi04:02
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comforteagleubotu: tell comforteagle about java04:02
holycowHeijmen, yeah sorry, you need to make sure speakers are guaranteed to work before you proceed04:02
basti__holycow, when I start I get www.whatuseek.com as startpage even though it isnt set as startpage04:02
SnarkI installed drgeo 1.0.0-1build1 (breezy/universe)04:02
Snarkit doesn't work at all because apparently it cannot make the link between the glade file and the code04:03
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holycowbasti__, what? what happens if you change home page to something else?04:03
Snarkie: it shows the ui, but nothing is bound to anything04:03
Concord_DawnDoes anyone know if, when you close a VNC connection, the session stays open?04:03
Snarkexcept closing the window to quitting04:03
SnarkConcord_Dawn: it stays open04:03
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Snarkyou can close the client and it will just stay open04:03
Concord_Dawn:o!04:03
Shin_Goukinalioth!, i found the Chipset: REaltek RTL8150 USB 10/100 Fast Ethernet Adapter04:03
Concord_Dawnthanks :)04:03
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Shin_Goukinalioth!, and sadly NO it seems NOT to be suppourted ootb :/04:04
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holycowbasti__, results?04:05
elc3hi04:05
basti__holycow, samo thing =(04:06
elc3i need help04:06
basti__some04:06
basti__same04:06
holycowbasti__, do apt-get remove --purge mozilla-firefox04:06
holycowthen reinstall it04:06
Shin_Goukinalioth , give the guides solutions for USB NIC install issues?04:06
naliothShin_Gouki: try the realtec website/forums for a way to enable it here04:06
holycowor rather04:06
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holycowactually try this04:06
holycowhangon04:06
holycowoh okay, move your .mozilla directory to somewhere else04:07
holycowthen restart firefox04:07
kbrosnanI used chown/chmod to take control of some files and I still cannot delete/modify them04:07
mbpillaibasti__, : apt-get install --reinstall packagename04:07
holycowdoes it still come up with that page on start?04:07
christian-how do I full screen mplayer from the terminal ?04:08
christian-mplayer -what file.avi04:08
holycowmbpillai, i want him to move his settings, i am wondering if this is an exploit or not ... if its in his home dir not sure, if its in /etc/ it's weird04:08
scenestargday all, can anyone of you please take the time and patience to help me with setting up wine PROPERLY, i messed up several times, did a fresh new isntall of ubuntu hoary and im looking for the best way to have wine run msn and IE without past lockups04:08
makuchristian-, mplayer file.avi -fullscreen04:08
christian-thanks04:09
maku:)04:09
basti__I did uninstall04:09
StricklinIs there a way to view .wmv files in Linux?04:09
basti__but it coultdn remove all  files..04:09
elc3help please in installing open office 2.0 beta in ubuntu hoary04:09
mbpillaibasti__, : then delete ~/.mozilla   also04:09
dpro\how do i make programs like cups stop loading at startup?04:09
scenestarStricklin: there is a package in the repositry04:09
scenestarthat allows you to play them04:09
makuStricklin, mplayer04:09
Stricklinmaku, scenestar thanks04:09
christian-!w32codecs04:10
ubotufrom memory, w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy). 64-bit? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5439904:10
christian-!mplayer04:10
christian-Those two04:10
ubotuI guess mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto.  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3106104:10
scenestarcan someone help me out with wine?04:10
scenestari cant find the latest winetools package04:10
scenestarjust the tar04:10
Mazrimugh04:10
Mazriminstall is not working04:11
Mazrimcan anyone help me?04:11
scenestarMazrim: of what?04:11
kbrosnanholycow: rarely Firefox will parse part of the startup as a url to go, since it is not a vaild url a google IFL search brings up a random page, that might be what happened to basti__04:11
Mazrimbreezy04:11
wacko_jackomazrim: what's the problem?04:11
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basti__I set www.google.com as startpage04:11
dpro\omfg! why are you ignoring me...04:11
dpro\i asked like twice04:11
Mazrimsome error about ndiswrapper failed to be over written04:12
MazrimE: /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.10-5-386_2.6.10-34.6_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko', which is also in package ndiswrapper-modules-2.6.10-5-38604:12
Mazrimtha04:12
Mazrimt04:12
Mazrimthan it just quits out04:12
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wacko_jackodpro: type "man init.d"04:12
holycowkbrosnan, interesting, i was suspecting something like that04:12
dpro\wacko_jacko, thaaank you!04:12
pl_icehi04:12
wacko_jackodpro: nevermind that doesn't work04:12
StricklinI must need to add repositories, because it's telling me it can't find those packages04:13
dpro\wacko_jacko, just found out04:13
holycowkbrosnan, if removing the .mozilla dir i would of guessed it must be something like that, but if its something with /etc we might of had an interesting situation04:13
dpro\Stricklin, then just add some...04:13
wacko_jackodpro\: ok04:13
dpro\wacko_jacko, that it didnt work :P04:13
basti__still there wtf?04:13
Mazrimanyone?04:14
basti__now I take use blank page04:14
holycowbasti__, select the blank page icon, or just leave it blank04:14
wacko_jackodpro\: I can't remember the syntax.....but there is some manual that will tell you all about startup04:14
Mazrimcan anyone help me with that problem, or point me where to look?04:14
dpro\wacko_jacko, isnt there a tool like in gentoo called rc-update04:14
holycowsorry about:blank thats how04:15
mbpillaiholycow:  reinstalling without removing ~/.files  may not give the desired results04:15
OfeWould anyone know how to set 56000bps a-link voice-faxmodem with a conexant chipset from 9600bps to 56000bps?04:15
holycowmbpillai, indeed, you told him to do that without deleting ~./ first remember?04:15
holycow;)04:15
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christian-How do I fullscreen a file in mplayer? I just did mplayer -fs file.avi, and it fullscreened the window, but not the video output. Leaving me with an entirely black screen with just a little window (500x500 ish) inside playing the video file04:16
basti__same thing. I think it might have been some extension that screwed me =/04:16
holycowbasti__, same thing what?04:16
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Goekhej MikkelK  - smut ind i #ubuntu-dk04:16
holycowdid you delete your ./mozilla from /home/user?04:16
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basti__I start firefox and it go to www.whatuseek.com04:16
holycowplease actually provide complete information if you want to continue to recieve help04:16
wacko_jackodpro\: yeah, but it is very confusing...you see there are about 20 different ways to initialize programs on bootup in unix and most versions of linux mix and match04:16
mbpillaiholycow: ya it is a logocal error sorry04:16
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wacko_jackodpro\: rc is one of them04:16
basti__holycow, yeah I did  rm -rf ~/.mozilla/04:17
holycowthat would of removed extensions too04:17
holycowthats where they are stored ... well most of them04:17
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basti__yeah they are gone but not that damn page04:17
holycowi've seen a few that install in /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox ...04:17
holycowbasti__, remove /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox as well04:18
HClis there any way to upgrade to breezy?04:18
HCloh04:18
HClxD04:18
HClnevermind >.>;;04:18
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naliothHCl: please dont flood04:18
StricklinMan, I like this way better than Kubuntu04:18
wacko_jackodpro\: usually if you poke around /etc/init.d/ you will find what you're looking for04:18
HCli'm not flooding -.-...04:18
holycowbasti__, then reinstall firefox04:18
pl_iceborin'04:19
silwolis it already possible to send files to a mobile telephone over bluetooth using the gnome-bluetooth tools or can they currently only be received?04:19
christian-How do I fullscreen a file in mplayer? I just did mplayer -fs file.avi, and it fullscreened the window, but not the video output. Leaving me with an entirely black screen with just a little window (500x500 ish) inside playing the video file04:19
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holycowbasti__, if it still comes back remove /etc/mozilla-firefox, but that shouldn't do anythign because if you apt-get remove --purge mozilla-firefox that will remove that dir for sure04:19
Knelix2How do I get Firefox to play mpeg movies?04:20
pl_icesilwol , yeh 2 way communication04:20
basti__what is /usr/bin/mozilla exactly?04:20
holycownot /mozilla04:20
holycow/usr/bin/mozilla-firefox04:20
holycowits the actual binaries dir for firefox04:20
silwolpl_ice: how do I do this? some drag&drop?04:20
holycowsystem wide plugins and extensions can get stored there04:20
basti__sudo04:20
Knelix2hmm. There's an MPEG extension/plugin I assume.04:21
basti__ops :P04:21
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Knelix2I normally let QT handle stuff... But I haven't seen a QT plugin for Mozilla.04:21
pl_icesilwol , pologies :/ though u wrote gammu not gnome ... sorry i use gammu ...04:21
silwolok04:21
pl_icesilwol use gammu ,it's wicked :D04:22
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yuachthello04:22
yuachti've got some problems, just dist-upgraded fr?rom hoary to breezy04:22
Kuolio:/04:23
silwolpl_ice: i'll give it a try. although the tools in breezy seem to get working now....04:23
pl_icei'm so bored...04:23
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pl_icesilwol  ;) i'll wait till breezy works fully ...04:23
silwolpl_ice: does gammu work with siemens telephones too?04:23
Kuolioyuacht: I feel your pain, i tried to dist-upgrade few weeks back and it went so horribly wrong that I ended up doing a clean install04:24
christian-How do I fullscreen a file in mplayer? I just did mplayer -fs file.avi, and it fullscreened the window, but not the video output. Leaving me with an entirely black screen with just a little window (500x500 ish) inside playing the video file <- Someone just msg me the answer, please?04:24
Knelix2I don't see a /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox.04:24
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pl_icesilwol , there are 2 main programs for phones, one is gnokii, other gammu, visit their site, but yeh they take (try) all phone companies,04:24
_Tirian_I'm considering switching to Ubuntu, and I have a few questions. One, does Ubuntu handle multiple monitors automaticly, or do I have to manually edit my xorg.conf?04:24
yuachti get errors trying to install the lsb, postfix, mutt, courier and mailx... gives me errors04:24
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yuachtand i can't start x04:24
atripathiFinally dualbooted Windows2003 but it took 3 installs of ubuntu04:24
OfeWould anyone know how to set 56000bps a-link external voice-faxmodem with a conexant chipset from 9600bps to 56000bps? It doesn't say anywhere that it's 9600bps. But firefox dowloads maximum of 900bytes/s and synaptic too. anyone, help?04:24
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holycowKnelix, thats because you don't have mozilla-firefox installed04:24
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Knelix2holycow: I'm using it right now.04:25
GNeRaLhi04:25
basti__ok now it works. I had to do apt-get remove --purge firefox04:25
holycowyuacht, for now its all manual, there is no gui for autoconfiguring that04:25
basti__kinda strange though. wonder what caused it :S04:25
basvghmm, I just changed the primary group of the one user that had root access on my box.. now I get complaints that I'm not in the sudoers file. IS this fixable?04:25
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Knelix2holycow: It's installed with the standard package.04:25
GNeRaLi've problem about sound card on vcd ? :|04:25
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holycowyuacht, just wait, xorg is being nicely modularized and upgraded, eventually a gui will exist04:25
stpereOfe, go to /etc/ppp/peers04:26
holycowKnelix, how can you be using it then? are you sure your not using epiphany?04:26
JustinHHhow can i see the partitions and their name?04:26
holycoworyour not in the wrong dir?04:26
stpereOfe, look for the file describing your connexion04:26
stpereconnection*04:26
holycowKnelix, try sudo updatedb && locate mozilla-firefox04:26
stpereOfe, it's probably ppp004:26
stpereOfe edit it as root04:26
Knelix2holycow: No, it's FF 1.0.7.04:26
pl_iceJustinHH  cat /proc/partitions or fdisk -i /dev/hdx04:26
yuachtholycow: well the damage is already done. how can i reset everything to hoary?04:26
Ofestpere : it's ppp0. I tried pppconfig before and it didn't help.04:27
GNeRaLroot@issever:/home/muhsin # sudo apt-get install libnt*04:27
GNeRaLE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 zkaynak geici olarak kullansz)04:27
GNeRaLE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?04:27
GNeRaLroot@issever:/home/muhsin #04:27
holycowyuacht, what is done? more information please04:27
stpereOfe, add the line 11520004:27
GNeRaLwhat must i do, please help me :|04:27
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holycowyuacht, all you need is a good xorg.conf file, i guess you didn't make a backup?04:27
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JustinHHpl_ice,  i wannt to see also the file system04:27
holycowbasti__, progress?04:27
JustinHHpl_ice,  i wannt to see also the file system. there is a configure file or something with all the partitions04:28
holycowGNeRaL, you have to installation processes open.  usually people have the gui installer running while using command line to install stuff04:28
Ofestpere: "bash: /etc/ppp/peers: is a directory" what command should I use? I'm a newbie with linux. :)04:28
stpereok04:28
holycowGNeRaL, or multiple terminals using install that they forgot about04:28
yuachtholycow: i just can't get lsb + deps installed, neither mutt, courier or mailx04:28
stpereOfe: cd /etc/ppp/peers04:28
holycowifyou are not sure, log out and log back in04:28
scenestarhey04:29
JustinHHthe grub loder is not working any more and i can not ron windows or linux04:29
scenestarwhenever i put my laptop in sleep04:29
JustinHHfrom mmy hdd04:29
stpereOfe, sudo nano ppp004:29
Knelix2What do I use as root password in Ubuntu?04:29
holycowyuacht, what? what does that haveto do with xorg?04:29
scenestari cant get it back up04:29
GNeRaLhmm, i try holycow , thanks04:29
JustinHHKnelix,  root04:29
scenestarKnelix: sudo passwd04:29
naliothubotu: tell Knelix2 about root04:29
holycowKnelix, nothing, there is no root pass in ubuntu04:29
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JustinHHKnelix,  your user password04:29
SanderDHi. My HP PSC 1215 printer doesn't print black -- only gray and colour. In Windows it can print black. How do I fix this?04:29
holycowKnelix, everything is via sudo04:29
pl_iceJustinHH sudo fdisk -i /dev/hdx gives me what types of pratitions i got04:29
yuachtholycow: lol nothing, i never said anything about xorg.04:29
stpereOfe, add 115200 on a line alone04:29
atripathiwill sudo apt-get install mjpegtools   install mp3 support ?04:30
holycowyou were asking about dual screen and how to fix your xorg04:30
naliothscenestar: that is not the ubuntu way04:30
pl_iceJustinHH , /etc/fstab for partitions mounting04:30
shackanis there anything like gtk2-engines-gtk-qt, but working 'the other way round' ?04:30
Ofestpere: to the last line? no matter where?04:30
stpereOfe, no matter where04:30
holycowthen you randomly switch questions without referencing the last question to first set of inquiries04:30
holycowif you can't keep track, i don't feel the need to help04:30
yuachtholycow: you're mistaking me for someone else, i?'ve never said anything about dualscreen04:30
atripathisomeone answer me...I am a newbie here04:30
crtrhow to refresh my desktop ?04:30
Ofestpere: ok, did that. do I have to save somewhere or make it apply?04:30
Knelix2JustinHH: It's not accepting it when I try to run as root in Gnome via the "Run as a different user" app.04:30
holycowyuacht, inded then, my appologies04:30
ZzZzenwhencrtr04:31
stpereOfe, press CTRL+O04:31
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stpereit will save your file04:31
yuachtholycow: no problem.04:31
atripathihey stpere04:31
yuachtcan i downgrade from breezy to hoary?04:31
stpereOfe, hangup your connection04:31
crtrZzZzenwhen, ?04:31
ZzZzenwhenopen up /home/Desktop in nautilus and hit refresh04:31
atripathiwill sudo apt-get install mjpegtools  install mp3 playback ??04:31
crtr10q04:31
stpereOfe, then dialup again04:31
ZzZzenwhen/home/user/Desktop04:31
naliothKnelix2: there is no root account. and it's a VERY bad idea to let gnome gui have root powers04:31
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Ofestpere: thank you stpere. that should do it? See you soon. :)04:32
basti__holycow, its gone04:32
stpereOfe, yes, should be ok04:32
holycowbasti__, :)04:32
basti__dunno what caused it though04:32
holycowbasti__, an extension04:32
JustinHHKnelix, the root password is the passord of your first user made on ubuntu. for example you made a user called Knelix and the password logmein then your root password is logmein04:32
JustinHHat least that works to me04:32
holycowbasti__, i'm relatively sure you accepted the installation of an extension from an unauthorized source somewhere04:32
nightswimJustinHH: that's not the root password04:32
stpereatripathi, I recommend simply doing : sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad04:33
nightswimthat's /your/ password04:33
basti__yeah. I wante the adblock extension04:33
GNeRaLnow, i receivin this error: muhsin@issever:~/Desktop$ wine mirc616.exe04:33
GNeRaLwine: error while loading shared libraries: libntdll.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory04:33
GNeRaLmuhsin@issever:~/Desktop$04:33
atripathistpere...what will it do .. may i have a little info over that ?04:33
dpro\wacko_jacko, ok, i found out at last04:33
stpereatripathi, every application using gstreamer will be able to read mp3s04:33
atripathiwill it install mp3 codecs ?04:33
basti__but official one didnt work so I took it from somewhere else04:33
naliothnightswim: the root account is disabled by default. the first users pass is functionally equivelant04:33
dpro\wacko_jacko, just install sysvconfig04:33
atripathidoes xmms use it ?04:33
stpereit's a plugin for gstreamer that will enable the mad decoder04:33
holycowbasti__, if removing your moz directories fixed it, thats where it was located, i was afraid that they horked something else on your system which would of been serious04:33
stpereatripathi, it's a mp3 decoder04:33
holycowbasti__, download it from the mozilla website for extensions, i use it and it works great.04:33
atripathiok thanks i will try it now04:34
atripathi:)04:34
yuachtcan i downgrade from breezy to hoary? anyone?04:34
Kyralyuacht, nope04:34
holycowbasti__, make sure to NEVER download extension from anywhere but the moz website, and then be carefull04:34
inc|freakyyuacht: no04:34
basti__ak thx :)04:34
christian-what is the command to fullscreen mplayer ? -fs merely fullscreens the window, not the video output04:34
stpereatripathi, you will be able to play mp3 in rhythmbox for example04:34
JustinHHnightswim,  well in ubuntu at the firs login it works to me04:34
holycowbasti__, if you installed adblock from somewhere else, someone modified it to include that redirect ... bad bad bad :)04:34
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inc|freakyyuacht: you can but its not supported and you will run in many problems i guess there is a guide for debian for downgrading just search the web ive never done it and i wouldnt do it though04:34
pl_icei'm bored, any one for a beer?04:35
naliothyuacht: very very difficult. easier to reinstall04:35
holycowpl_ice, can you fax over a bottle?04:35
JustinHHhow do i mount a drive?04:35
holycow>_>04:35
inc|freakypl_ice: sure if yya have one for me :D04:35
atripathistpere:   E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.04:35
kbrosnanany thoughts on why if I am the owner and have full permissions I cannot delete/modify files/folders04:35
pl_iceok, my buy, but u guys get here ;)04:35
Knelix2nalioth: Yes, so everyone keeps saying.. I just don't understand how I can do some real file management and work without being able to login as root every once in a while in Gnome. So, it's okay to sudo, etc in the terminal or CLI, but give root powers to the gui front end..  oh no... seriously that's a huge deficiency, the way I see it.04:35
inc|freakyJustinHH: mount /dev/device /dir/to/mount/it/in04:35
naliothatripathi: so do what it says04:35
JustinHHbut i don't know the exact device name04:35
JustinHH:(04:35
holycowkbrosnan, you can only delete your own by default.  to delete other files you can do sudo rm filename ...e tc.04:35
holycowkbrosnan, be very carefull04:36
kemikJustinHH:  "sudo fdisk -l"04:36
yuachtok... well, can somebody send me their breezy sources.list with universe and such enabled? mine's messed up04:36
JustinHHthe partition name04:36
JustinHHright04:36
naliothKnelix2: gnome doesnt play well empowered (causes lots of userspace problems afterward)04:36
pl_iceJustinHH , what u trying to mount?04:36
atripathiReading package lists... Done04:36
basti__holycow, yeah those bastards :(04:36
atripathiBuilding dependency tree... Done04:36
atripathiE: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-mad04:36
naliothyuacht: /msg ubotu sources04:36
Toma-whats the command that makes deb packages?04:36
naliothubotu: tell atripathi about sources04:36
Kyralfrom what?04:36
Toma-fom source04:36
naliothubotu: tell Toma- about checkinstall04:36
stpereatripathi, you need to add some repositories04:36
JustinHHa partition in order to reinstall grub from dos04:36
Kyralif you download stuff from the apt-source its dpkg-buildpackage04:36
stpereatripathi, read what ubotu says04:37
JustinHHmy hdd doesn't boot any more04:37
inc|freakynalioth: im always using checkinstall now :)04:37
JustinHHi am using now the live cd04:37
JustinHH:((04:37
kbrosnanI own the files, I chowned them04:37
pl_iceJustinHH , do u know on which hd it is, or it's size?04:37
Knelix2naliot: Honestly, I think that needs to be addressed at some point.04:37
atripathiyeah i got it04:37
holycowbasti__, well the responsobility is yours, never ever trust anone on the net, even us.  keep an eye on all communities, if a community has a vested interest in 'moral' subjects like say here and keeping things safe then you might consider trusting a few people :)04:37
JustinHHgrub?04:37
Knelix2nalioth, that is.04:37
atripathiwill do it now04:37
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Kyralbut if you are doing something that has never been "debianized" before and want to do it RIGHT then look in the Debian New Maintainers Guide04:37
JustinHHpl_ice,  grub instaled?04:37
yuachthmm, how do i switch windows in irssi`? =)04:37
JustinHHyes04:37
naliothKnelix2: address it to the gnome team04:37
kemikKnelix2:  cant you just run nautilus with gksudo and problem's solved04:37
JustinHHbut i don`t know what i should do04:37
ultramancoolhi04:37
christian-what is the command to fullscreen mplayer ? -fs merely fullscreens the window, not the video output04:37
Toma-Kyral: making rpms was more fun :(04:38
ultramancoolwhat's the su group in ubuntu?04:38
ultramancoolthere no wheel04:38
Knelix2nalioth: Yeah, maybe I will. Doubt they'll listen to little me, but sure.04:38
pl_iceJustinHH there is howto on ubuntuforums.org for recovering grub04:38
JustinHHif i run the setup cd will i be able to  access windows04:38
kemikultramancool:  admin i think04:38
christian-Oh, and it's the same with -fs -fstype fullscreen04:38
ultramancoolno it can't be04:38
JustinHHi hope i can manage it04:38
yuachtanyone? switch windows in irssi?04:38
holycowKnelix, just start nautilus with sudo, whats the problem?04:38
naliothKnelix2: use gksudo as kemik pointed out. but you have been warned04:38
holycowsudo nautilus04:38
holycowvoila, nautilus with root powers04:38
holycowditto for all apps04:39
holycowcapish?04:39
kbrosnanyuacht: meta + number row04:39
naliothholycow: gksudo works better for gui apps04:39
ultramancoolother users can still su to my account then sudo for root access04:39
holycowwhat nalioth said, never used that :)04:39
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Krnekihay04:39
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Krnekihow to set mail server on ubuntu04:39
kemikultramancool:  well if they su to your account, then they become you04:39
yuachtkbrosnan: what? =)04:39
holycownalioth, ah cool! thx for the tip :)04:39
Knelix2kemik: Maybe-- I'll look into that. I mean, I can just use the terminal, but I wish I could just as *safetly* use it in the gui04:39
JustinHHwhen i am using the live cd can i edit fstab? or to be able to edit it must i be loged in as root?04:40
kbrosnanyuacht: meta is alt on most systems also ctrl + n/p04:40
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ultramancoolhow do i make it so that only certain users can su?04:40
christian-what is the command to fullscreen mplayer ? -fs merely fullscreens the window, not the video output. Can it even be done? I04:40
kemikchristian-:  we saw you the first time04:41
atripathiI am making serious attempt to turn to linux04:41
christian-'ve installed w32codecs and everything seems to be in working order, except that I can only run mplayer via the terminal04:41
atripathithanks for the support04:41
christian-kemik, really? You saw me for the first time 2 hours ago ?04:41
christian-That's super!04:41
ultramancoolcan anyone help?04:41
Kuoliochristian-: I have same problem, quite annoying actualy04:41
holycowchristian-, you can create a launcher04:42
JustinHHpl_ice, on that link i could find only a forum with editing the menu of grub04:42
holycowright click on your panel and add launcher applet04:42
holycowcustom launcher applet04:42
ultramancoolyes make a launcher that runs it in the terminal04:42
christian-Kuolio, it's more than annoying innit? We turn to linux because windows always crashes and never works, yet the tables are turned when we install linux. Now we can04:42
holycowthen right click on the foot, and put the mplayer command in the command line04:42
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holycowchristian-, presto chango04:42
Krnekijay04:42
christian-'t even perform the most simple tasks, tho we can compile c++ code easy04:42
Kuoliochristian-: does it happen to you only with wmv9 videofiles? Coz for me it's only with them04:42
christian-:D04:42
Krnekihay04:42
Krnekihow to do mail server please help04:43
christian-Kuolio, it's all files for me04:43
christian-video files ofcourse04:43
makujet_, hiya04:43
ultramancoolsudo apt-get install (mailserver)04:43
kemikchristian-:  use mplayer-gui adn there's a fullscreen option in the menu04:43
holycowchristian-, actually the reason for 'not being able to do the simpel tasks'04:43
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holycowchristian-, is because you were taught bad bad bad habits on windows04:43
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atripathiabhishek@ubuntu:~$  sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad04:43
atripathiE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)04:43
atripathiE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?04:43
naliothatripathi: apt can only be run one process at a time04:44
Stricklinholycow, ASF files?04:44
ultramancoolsudo killall dpkg04:44
holycowchristian-, the reason you cannot is because you are now running a true multiuser system with proper security setup, or rather at least it is assumed that you must not run as 'admin'04:44
atripathithanks ultra04:44
holycowwhich is really what prevents people from 'doing all the basic stuff'04:44
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ultramancoolif that fails rm the lockfile04:44
atripathiit says "no process killed"04:44
StricklinI've gotta say, I'm liking this so far04:44
christian-kemik, bash: mplayer-gui: command not found - or was that not what you meant ?04:45
holycowStricklin, what about asf files?04:45
ultramancoolgmplayer is the mplayer gui04:45
Stricklin...a bit of a learning curve, but I'm liking it04:45
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christian-ultramancool, so I should download gmplayer ?04:45
kemikchristian-:  gmplayer04:45
StricklinHow to play them?04:45
christian-!gmplayer04:45
ubotuchristian-: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?04:45
kemikchristian-:  but i think it's called mplayer-gui in the repositories04:45
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ultramancooltry typing gmplayer if it's in the package04:45
ultramancoolotherwise04:45
pl_iceultramancool i think via PAM u can disable/change su04:45
holycowStricklin, the most important thing to remember is that it isn't windows, learn the tool and how it works on its own terms.  you will absorb most of the knowledge through osmosis :)04:45
ultramancoolapt-get install gmplayer04:46
christian-kemik, mplayer-gui in the apt-get thing, right ?04:46
JustinHHdoes anyone know how i can recover grub?04:46
kemikmmh04:46
ultramancoolpl_ice:how would i go about this?04:46
makujet_, yeah04:46
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christian-E: Couldn't find package gmplayer - E: Couldn't find package mplayer-gui04:46
pl_iceultramancool i'm just lookin in the book :/04:46
Biscuitian_WarheDoes CUPS come standard with Hoary?04:46
kemikchristian-:  enable universe04:46
ultramancooltry running gmplayer04:46
holycowBiscuitian_Warhe, yes04:46
jet_ubuntu has an option of root console in any user account04:46
atripathiis flac a mp3 decoder?04:47
jet_is it not a loophole04:47
Stricklinbreakfast...04:47
jet_???????04:47
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crtrI have .taz.gz in /var/www and the archive is 4 GB . I can't see it in web browser , why ?04:47
makujet_, ask ur problem04:47
Biscuitian_WarheDoes Hoary use XFree86 or xorg, and which version of it does it use?04:47
jet_to whom04:47
holycowjet_, everyone04:47
jet_ok04:47
JustinHHhow can i mount a device?04:47
kemikcrtr:  got a httpd installed?04:48
pl_iceultramancool , yeh u can do PAM on it, i got example in the book, but it's not that new04:48
jet_i intended to ask that ubuntu provides a root console04:48
kemikBiscuitian_Warhe:  xorg04:48
jet_to every user04:48
ultramancoolwhich book?04:48
holycowcrtr, you mean because you don't have apache installed maybe?04:48
jet_isnt it a loophole04:48
kemikjet_:  huh ?04:48
crtrno , i have it04:48
Biscuitian_WarheJustinHH: the holy mount command04:48
Biscuitian_Warhemount04:48
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christian-ultramancool, gmplayer launches the mplayer gui04:48
ultramancoolpl_ice:which book?04:48
crtri have other files in /var/www04:48
christian-But it does not make it work04:48
Biscuitian_Warhekemik: What version, 6.8?04:48
crtrbut i cant's see only that archive04:48
christian-the mplayer-gui freezes up04:49
kemikBiscuitian_Warhe:  not sure04:49
holycowcrtr, remove index.html or whatever is in there by default so it shows the directory tree maybe?04:49
pl_iceJustinHH , can u post it on ubuntuforum? someone will help.. i don't know really..04:49
Biscuitian_WarheDoes anyone know the xorg version that comes with Hoary04:49
christian-and the only way to remove it is to kill the mplayer process04:49
crtri have removed it already04:49
crtrand i can see the other folders and files04:49
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christian-which is why I'm running mplayer from the terminal04:49
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christian-because the gui-interface won't work04:49
ultramancoolchristian-: maybe try compiling mplayer yourself?04:49
pl_iceultramancool :linux security system by S Mann, l Mitchell, but that stuff should be in any security papers, just find howto PAM04:50
ultramancoolit's pretty easy04:50
christian-Would that help, you think ?04:50
holycowchristian-, heh, i haveto occasionally run totem from cli when playing dvds with weird encryption issues so i can kill it safely too04:50
ultramancoolchristian-: it's worth a shot04:50
christian-holycow, I'd use totem - but it does not seem to have registred my downloaded/installed codecs04:50
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scenestarhmmm04:51
atripathihey guys million thanks04:51
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scenestari prefer vlc anyways04:51
holycowchristian-, thats because default totem is totem-gstreamer04:51
atripathimp3 is rocking on my system04:51
pl_iceatripathi ,on my too ;)04:51
_Tirian_Does Ubuntu support multiple monitors automaticly?04:51
holycowremove totem-gstreamer and install totem-xine (totem gstreamer is a little wacky for now anyway)04:51
kemikchristian-:  totem-xine04:51
holycowthen install w32codecs package04:51
holycowand voila04:51
kemikchristian-:  but i would recommend vlc04:51
holycowyou can pretty much play anything04:51
ultramancoolpl_ice i found the pam config04:51
atripathiit was one of the major problem i had on ubuntu04:51
Ofewho was the guy who helped me out with my slow connection?04:52
christian-kemik, I'm installing vlc via apt-get right now04:52
atripathiapart from dualboot and screen resolution04:52
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ultramancoolchristian-: vlc and xine are much better for most videos04:52
christian-I'm also logging the conversation, and if vlc does not work, I'll try to compile mplayer myslef04:52
Dr_Willisvlc is very nice in many ways.04:52
holycowchristian-, also switch to totem-xine and install w32codecs ... if totem has an issue you can always run vlc or vice versa04:52
pl_iceultramancool u better read some man before u touch it!!04:52
jet_everytime i update ubuntu theres written locales not set . wat does that mean????//04:52
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zeroversehi, i have 5.10 installed and updated, but can't get dvd's to play and libdvdcss2 isn't in my sources list...any suggestions?04:53
holycowchristian-, no need to compile mplayer, follow the totem xine instructions, you can finish it in like 3 minutes04:53
Ofespindley? was it you who helped me?04:53
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holycowdont forget the win32codecs, very important04:53
Dr_Williszeroverse,  check the wikis and forums. theres a few extra packages/repos you got to add and install.04:53
ultramancoolhave fun, i've gotta go hack at my pam config for a while :D04:53
zeroversedr, thanks04:53
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jet_everytime i update ubuntu theres written locales not set . wat does that mean???? can anybody help?04:54
Dr_Williszeroverse,  actually last night - i dieent have to add any odd repos. Just had to install a few dozen packages :P04:54
kennethloveevery freakin' time i look up, someone's mentioning the w32codecs.04:54
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kennethlovemaybe they should be included by default. ;)04:54
naliothkennethlove: you can thank uncle bill for that04:54
Dr_Williskennethlove,  legally they cant. :P04:54
LaserLineWhen is the release date of Breezy....04:54
kennethloveDr_Willis: yeah, i know.04:54
ultramancoolholly crap that was easy, i just turned on wheel04:55
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christian-hehe04:55
Dr_Willishttp://www.giannaros.org/tor/bt/  - has w32codec's04:55
christian-The fullscreen works in vlc04:55
christian-hehe, but the sound doesn't :D04:55
ultramancoolyipee :D04:55
ultramancoollol04:55
kennethlovehow about sticking something in the initial boot-up of GNOME that says "install w3codecs NOW"04:55
naliothkennethlove: b/c some of us can't use w32codecs04:55
ultramancoolchristian-: fiddle with the config04:55
pnallplz04:55
kennethloveand we could have a little dancing paperclip04:55
atripathiI wanna query something...... If  I have to install ubuntu again then is it possible to install with /opt mounted on the previous partition and thereby preserving my data ?04:55
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christian-ultramancool, you mean the gui preferences ? :/04:56
Dr_Williskennethlove,  why not have a 'smart-tweaking-script' that downloads/updates all this less-then-legal stuff . :P04:56
ultramancoolis there a way i can restart pam w/o rebooting?04:56
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ultramancoolchristian-: yes04:56
atripathiultraman any idea?04:56
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kennethloveDr_Willis: just as good. turns on MP3 support (if it's off, didn't seem to be in breezy), downloads the codecs and the MS fonts.04:57
ultramancoolchristian-: but there's probably a config file with more options04:57
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Dr_Williskennethlove,  of course thats all about a 1 line apt-get command. :P04:57
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pl_iceheh, time for bed :/04:57
holycow*ew*04:57
holycowdon't download the ms fonts, they are horrid04:58
pl_icebye04:58
Dr_Willisapt-get install Make-legalstuff-work04:58
ultramancoolpl_ice:bye thanks04:58
holycowlet your eye get used to the freebies on linux, they are quite beautiful04:58
kennethloveDr_Willis: yeah, i know that, too. :) but for the new people.04:58
pl_iceholycow , many people need ms fonts like me :/ for my language...04:58
holycowonce you get used to them and  you go back to windows you will wonder what blind people designed those fonts04:58
ultramancoolapt-get install riaakiller04:58
Biscuitian_WarheMicrosoft.. what an evil word04:58
christian-ultramancool, I really suck at this. I only installed linux 2 days ago04:58
holycowpl_ice, you don't have chareacters for your language in standard font set on ubuntu?04:58
christian-ultramancool, so I'll just try 'something' and then return04:58
ultramancooljust keep fidling eventually you'll get it :D04:59
pl_iceholycow nope, not all of them, i'm really using vernadana or something like that font04:59
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ultramancoolchristian-:that's what i do and i only format every 2 weeks :D04:59
holycowchristian-, remember, you are learning a whole new os, don't expect to learn something like that in 2 days what took 15 years with the other guys04:59
holycow:)04:59
holycowchristian-, welcome btw04:59
Biscuitian_WarheYeah04:59
pl_iceholycow mind u my console font sux :/04:59
holycowpl_ice, all cool :) i was editorializing04:59
Biscuitian_WarheLinux isn't easy cheesy to learn at first04:59
bam_hey anyone know of any other ipod manage r besides gtkpod?04:59
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Biscuitian_WarheWhats wrong with gtkpod.. Lol05:00
pl_icebam_ gnupod i'm using it :D sweet and really fast05:00
holycowBiscuitian_Warhe, neitehr is windows, the biggest problem is people forget they have 15 years of training05:00
WhiteRabbithttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Mark_Shuttleworth_NASA.jpg the man who brought Ubuntu05:00
Dr_WillisStep #1 - UNLEARN your MS-Lemming-ZOmbie ways05:00
pl_iceoki, bye bye05:00
bam_gnupod...05:00
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bam_hmmm05:00
christian-holycow, hehe, thank you. I've always had windows on my stationary computer, but then last year I got a macintosh and ended up really fed up with windows05:00
ultramancoolchristian-: once you get used to a command line everything becomes simpler.05:00
bam_is there a feed for it05:00
scenestaryeah and thats the whole problem05:00
kennethloveyeah, CLI > *05:00
nalioth!cli05:00
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, cli is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/05:00
christian-Now the mac is at the repair shop, and I'm reclaiming my computer in the name of linux :D05:00
holycowwhat ultramancool said is true.  i didn't believe it but it is true05:00
apokryphosWhiteRabbit: he has long hair now!05:01
apokryphosand looks older :P05:01
yuachtwhat's the rfb package?05:01
holycowall guis do is 'automate that which can be automated' or 'allow you to maniuplate data that requires windowing, say like graphics' or such05:01
ultramancoolholycow: which one? the command line or the format the hd every 2 weeks?05:01
WhiteRabbitapokryphos, Well His money will always be the sexy to me ;)~05:01
holycowultramancool, cli, i didn't read the formating bit :)05:01
yuachtto view info about a package in the terminal, you run something like apt-cache something package? what's something supposed to be?05:02
ultramancooli think my current ubuntu's lasted me about a month! :D05:02
holycowultramancool, what did you say about formatting?05:02
ultramancoolchristian-:that's what i do and i only format every 2 weeks :D05:02
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ultramancoolholycow: "christian-:that's what i do and i only format every 2 weeks :D"05:03
christian-I'm gonna stick with this ubuntu install until I get my Breezy cd :)05:03
fbnshould I use Sylpheed 2 or Sylpheed-claws ?05:03
holycowheh05:03
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ultramancoolchristian-: if you go do a gentoo install for a month you'll learn a LOT!!!05:03
christian-:/05:04
apokryphosultramancool: you'd learn more with LFS05:04
christian-Isn't this the ubuntu fanclub ?05:04
Seveasultramancool, you'll learn how not to create a distro...05:04
ultramancoolapokryphos:yes true but i wanted package management :D05:04
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christian-ultramancool, where do you think the vlc config is at ?05:05
ultramancool/etc/dunno :D05:05
christian-haha05:05
ultramancooli'll check05:05
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ultramancoolinstalling vlc...05:05
naliothultramancool: you can have the package management of your choice in LFS05:05
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christian-nalioth, "LFS" ?05:06
ultramancoolnalioth: yes but you've still got to find all the url's yourself05:06
ultramancoolLFS: Linux From Scratch05:06
christian-k05:06
naliothchristian-: www.linuxfromscratch.org05:06
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procrastinationnhow do i unpackage a tar???05:07
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ali4728Help I get "554 <email@domain.com>: Relay access denied"  error message from imap client (postfix + Courier-Imap) here is mail.log http://pastebin.com/380563. Any comments appreciated.05:07
ultramancooltar xvf05:07
apokryphosprocrastinationn: man tar05:07
Seveasprocrastinationn, tar xf filename.tar05:07
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ultramancoolor tar xzvf05:07
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ultramancoolor tar xvjf depending on it's compression05:07
nxv_hi i try to install ati drivers, i have installed all the debs generated by the ati installer. afaik. but cant find fglrx_config05:08
Seveasali4728, so you're not allowed to send mail through that server...05:08
Seveasuse a server where you are allowed to send e-mail05:08
ali4728Seveas, how do I make it able?05:08
Seveasali4728, talk to the admin of the server...05:08
Seveas!tell nxv_ about ati05:08
ali4728Seveas, I am server and the remote client too05:09
jalaitesting moro05:09
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drummer87hi, what's a good frontend for managing ip/network traffic routing?05:09
ultramancoolchristian-: http://www.videolan.org/doc/faq/en/index.html#id278264 tell you where vlc has it's config hidden :D05:09
nightswim/sbin/ip05:09
Seveasali4728, then read the documentation of your mail server -- the steps to set this up properly are not easily explained on IRC...05:09
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nxv_thx Seveas05:10
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procrastinationnim trying to unpack this   xlil_v1.0.tar.gz05:10
naliothdrummer87: http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=13005:10
christian-damn .hidden files heh05:10
ali4728Seveas, thnx alot05:10
apokryphosprocrastinationn: so read man tar05:10
procrastinationnlol05:10
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Seveasali4728, search for 'smtp access' and 'relay client'05:10
ultramancoolchristian-: get used to it :D05:11
procrastinationni am its like alien language05:11
christian-ultramancool, bash: cd: .vlc/vlcrc: No such file or directory05:11
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christian-there's only .vlc/cache05:11
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ultramancoolchristian-: crap05:12
christian-But that does not contain a config05:12
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ultramancoolchristian-: try changin a config option then saving maybe it would then place a vlcrc05:12
JustinHHwhat is the command in the terminal to unzip a tar.gz-file05:12
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naliothubotu: tell JustinHH about cli05:12
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christian-ultramancool, k !05:12
vikashhi05:12
drummer87thanks nalioth05:13
apokryphoshi there05:13
ultramancoolchristian-: i jus tryed it :-( it didn't work for me05:13
LaserLineHello all, is there a way to change the directory where firefox saves it's temporary internet files ??05:13
theineJustinHH, tar xzf <tar.gz-file>05:13
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naliothdrummer87: firestarter is most commonly used, but there are choices. (besides. firewalls are unnecessary in ubuntu)05:14
ultramancoolchristian-: got it!05:14
LaserLineI'd be glad to know how to change that in Opera 8.5 also05:14
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christian-ultramancool, it sorta worked for me... Except = bash: cd: vlcrc: Not a directory05:14
ultramancoolchristian-: it's a file :D05:14
christian-Oh, that's the config file ?05:14
ultramancoolchristian-: run your favourite text editor on it05:14
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Anak1n!mount05:15
ubotu[mount]  the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives05:15
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ultramancoolcool05:15
ultramancool!cd05:15
ubotuultramancool: Not a clue05:15
ultramancoollol05:15
christian-ultramancool, Ace! I'm looking at the config now... hehe, It's quite long !05:15
LaserLineAnyone knows how to do what I asked ?05:15
JustinHHthx The_Vox05:15
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JustinHHthx theine05:16
Anak1nhow can I mount hdd fat32 secondary slave?05:16
ultramancoolchristian-: does your sound even work normally?05:16
christian-it works in mplayer05:16
christian-and when I boot ubuntu05:16
ultramancoolok try ls /dev/dsp05:16
naliothubotu: tell Anak1n about windowsdrives05:17
ultramancoolchristian-: ok try ls /dev/dsp05:17
christian-christian@bageriet:~/.vlc$ ls /dev/dsp = /dev/dsp05:17
ultramancoolgood05:17
ultramancoolchristian-: good05:17
ultramancoolchristian-: that's your sound device05:17
zthok i get a Ski????????ppi/X1??1R6/lib/modules/libfb.abmmx.o": No Symbols found... trying to start X... hel??p!05:17
Anak1nnalioth: I just want to mount it for a sec. to transfer some data05:18
ultramancoolchristian-: see if there's a spot for you to put that in the config file?05:18
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zthnvm all the ???'s05:18
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ultramancoollook in the OSS section :D05:18
ultramancoolchristian-:look in the OSS section :D05:19
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christian-I found something, pM05:19
christian-'ed it to you05:19
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shawnzhow to go from lilo to grub in ubuntu anyone?05:22
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graymanhey05:23
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Vegarhey grayman05:23
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graymannot you dude05:23
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graymani'd like to ask a question about ati drivers05:24
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graymanis there any problem with them?05:24
seifei think u dont need drivers05:25
apokryphosyes, ATI on Linux is generally annoying05:25
drummer87the one's from the ati site? they work fine for me.05:25
graymanafter i installed them the games became slow05:25
graymanlike really slow05:25
seifeuninstall05:25
shawnzwhy did they change the Circle of Friends artwork again :( it looks horrible now05:26
shawnznot to mention removing the browser homepage :(05:26
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Bateau_how can i install SMTP server? can i use apt-get? what program should i install?05:26
KJoNHow Do I change fat32 volume labels without destroying its data?05:26
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mysterious_werm, How long til 5.10 is a full official release?05:27
KJoNmysterious_w: 13rd. Oct.05:27
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KJoNI need help with volume labeling... any volunteers?05:28
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=== ..[topic/#ubuntu:apokryphos] : Official Ubuntu Help channel | Breezy Colony 5 is out (official release Oct 13): http://tinyurl.com/85dry | Upgrading to breezy? http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes | Documentation: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation - http://doc.ubuntu.com | Use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl for pasting | Found a bug? http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com
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StyXmanhi all05:28
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Mars__^Hi05:29
mysterious_wgood good, there will still be a live CD, right?05:29
zthok i get a Ski?ppng "/usr/X1?1R6/lib/modules/libfb.abmmx.o": No Symbols found... trying to start X... hel?p!im on breezy05:29
StyXmanI'm trying to use mod-xslt for apache2, and I get this error: XSLTDefaultStylesheet not allowed05:29
Mars__^I downloaded game :enemyterritory.run How can i open it?05:29
Belutzhow do i force uninstall a program?05:29
StyXmanThe directive is present in a .htacces in one of the user's public_html05:29
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StyXmanhow can I allow it?05:29
StyXmangoogle gave me no useful answer...05:30
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Mars__^How to open *.run ???05:31
StyXmanMars__^: just set the executable bit and run it from a terminal05:31
Mars__^so sun et.run?05:31
Mars__^run05:31
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StyXmanMars__^: uhm?05:32
Mars__^i downloaded it and?05:32
StyXmanMars__^: I said05:32
StyXmanset the exec bit, open a termninal, and run it05:32
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Mars__^set what ? i dont understand05:33
StyXmanok, got to the properties dialog for that file, set the executable bit05:33
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tckanyone get kismet + orinoco card working with breezy ?05:33
Goekif i don't remember typing in a root code, when i installed my set, what could it be?05:34
tckis it the same long drawn out affair as hoary ?05:34
StyXmanGoek: you have no root05:34
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StyXmanyou have sudo05:34
BiggieSmadoes anyone know when breezy final will be released?05:34
pminettiplease some one can explain how to conect to internet with adls modem?05:34
butcherbirdtck: only thing you should have to do is look in kismet.conf file and uncomment your card, then comment out whatever was default05:34
tckreally ?05:34
BiggieSmaer nm i see it in the topic05:34
StyXmanGoek: you do everything through sudo, even changing root passwd :)05:34
tcki tried that butcherbird05:34
StyXmanpminetti: it works with pppoe?05:35
butcherbirdtck: been a while since i used kismet..hangon05:35
pminettiin suse i have dsl0, but here in ubunto only eth005:35
Mars__^Ok i installed it so where it is?05:35
pminettistyxman: yes05:35
StyXmanMars__^: ah, that depends on what the installer did05:36
StyXmanread the output05:36
StyXmanpminetti: install pppoeconf and run it05:36
StyXmanit'l ask everything from there05:36
Goekthanks05:36
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pminettiStyXman: Ok05:36
tckbutcherbird, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/271505:36
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ubiquitindoes anybody know when the qt3 multithreading libs might become available in breezy...05:37
hubsihow can i set the primary soundcard on ubuntu?05:37
ubiquitinthere're loads of packages that are just impossible to install atm because of that single missing package05:37
butcherbirdtck: can you paste config file too05:38
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tckok05:38
shawnzhow can I go from lilo to grub in ubuntu?05:38
Fleckso why use Ubuntu and not Debian :) ?05:38
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shawnzFleck: they're different distrobutions, just because ubuntu is based on debian doesn't mean they can be compared05:39
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shawnzbut I personally really like ubuntu =p05:39
bonvenoncan anyone tell me why my (synaptics) touchpad stops working if I change my usb mouse from using /dev/input/mice???05:39
arcanistheroguehey, how do you mount a windows formatted ipod?05:39
arcanistherogueso i can get it working with gtkpod05:39
tckbutcherbird, in warty it took just one patch and was done, with hoary it was a nightmare to et it working05:39
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tckhopefully breexy wont be as bad05:39
arcanistherogueyeah, i cant wait for the new ubuntu05:40
StyXmanFleck: why not?05:40
arcanistheroguegot my cds preordered (b'_')b05:40
ericzhow do you preorder them05:40
arcanistheroguejust order them from shipit05:40
Fleckshawnz well i like new software, in unstable debian (sid) i can get them, but they don't whant to help me if i use sid..., i whant to use new KDE etc... how about ubuntu?05:40
arcanistheroguelike the 5.04 discs05:40
arcanistheroguethey ship a week after they come out05:40
snorks!.tgz05:40
ubotusnorks: Did you get hit by a windmill?05:40
Fleckooh and - i like to compile kernel by my self!05:40
snorks!tgz05:40
ubotusnorks: I don't know, could you explain it?05:40
shawnzFleck: nothings stopping you from setting up any distrobution how you like05:41
ericzso anything ordered recently will be breezy?05:41
ericzor what?05:41
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Fleckshawnz sure but that doesn't answer my question! :)05:41
tckbutcherbird, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/271605:41
BelutzFleck, use gentoo05:42
FleckBelutz i hate to compile everything ...05:42
Belutzi see05:42
graymanyou can use their binary packages05:42
Mars__^I am trying to install it but it shows info that i am not permited to put game in there. Normally i could use root but what now?05:43
Mars__^?05:43
Mars__^ok05:43
Mars__^It works05:43
graymansudo?05:43
shawnzO.o05:43
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mkyb14questoin, if i do a dual boot with XP pro and put the MBR on the linux HD ..... if i unplug the hd will windows boot up?  i accidently put the MBR on the windows HD and none of the grub removal commands worked!05:43
procrastinationnwere is native05:43
StyXmanok, bailing out05:44
naliothubotu: tell Mars__^ about root05:44
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butcherbirdtck: this a ethernet or wireless card?05:44
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shawnzmkyb14, boot up to windows setup disk, go into recovery console, and do help05:44
shawnzi think the command is chkboot or something05:44
mkyb14questoin, if i do a dual boot with XP pro and put the MBR on the linux HD ..... if i unplug the hd will windows boot up?  i accidently put the MBR on the windows HD and none of the grub removal commands worked!05:44
mkyb14oh shit sorry05:44
mkyb14my window was at the top05:44
shawnzuh... and?05:44
shawnzjust do what i said05:45
shawnzgo into recovery console and run chkboot or whatever the command is. it installs the windows MBR05:45
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tckbutcherbird, pcmcia wireless card05:45
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mkyb14yea i did all the fixboot and fixmbr commands and none worked05:45
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shawnzO.o05:45
butcherbirdtck: whats your wireless interface ath0?05:45
mkyb14so i wondered if installing grub on my second hd with linux would mess with the windows MBR05:45
shawnzunplug your linux drive and do them05:45
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tckbutcherbird, eth005:45
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shawnztck: thats lan, not wireless, isnt it?05:46
tckthats the way it is picked up on mine05:46
shawnzand lol at ath005:46
butcherbirdshawnz: ;p05:46
tckthe name can be anything regardless05:46
tckthats no the issue ;)05:46
tcks/no/not05:46
procrastinationnnative05:46
shawnz/ctcp butcherbird ping +++ATH0 hax!05:46
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shawnzbut anyway05:47
procrastinationnwhy does my xbox not an ip05:47
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shawnzwhy does this silly lynux thingy not want to go from lilo to grub?05:47
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shawnz:p05:47
DrZootdoes ubuntu/kubuntu support software suspend?05:47
shawnzDrZoot, its gnu/linux05:48
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shawnzdoes gnu/linux support it? then ubuntu does.05:48
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DrZootshawnz: yeah, thanks for that ......05:48
pulverhi! anyone know how to send emoticons with amsn? possible? manually?05:48
butcherbirdtck: not on breezy but kismet worked fine for me on hoary with orinoco silver card05:48
shawnzrofl05:48
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Toma-pulver: yeh u can do it05:49
DrZootso does anyone know if software suspend is included in the ubuntu kern05:49
blarghhi - anyone here had any experience installing Atheros drivers for a WLAN card?05:49
tckbutcherbird, what steps did you take05:49
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shawnzpulver: use gaim :p05:49
ProN00bis it normal that if i try to install a package it tries to remove ubuntu-base ?05:49
Thorlo all, can sum1 pls tell me y the GAIM messenger isnt workin anymore05:49
pulverToma-: how?05:49
ProN00band what is ubuntu-base ?05:49
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shawnzProN00b: its not normal but it happens. and ubuntu-base is the base ubuntu installation05:49
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butcherbirdpretty much just uncommented- commented out one or two things in the config05:49
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shawnzlast time i tried to reinstall alsautils it removed ubuntu-base, then my system didnt boot05:50
shawnz:(05:50
snorksWhat do I do with a .tgz file?05:50
pulvershawnz: lol yeah gaim is nice but file transfer is slow05:50
ProN00bcool05:50
tckbutcherbird, mine looks good doesn't it05:50
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Thorlo all, can sum1 pls tell me y the GAIM messenger isnt workin anymore05:50
Vegarsnorks: delete it05:50
tckstill need another patch i think05:50
shawnzsnorks, ungzip it then untar it.05:50
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ProN00bhow do i install that package without removing ubuntu-base then ?05:50
Vegarsnorks: use dpkg or apt to install programs05:50
procrastinationnlol duh just had to plug in the eithernet and reboot x05:50
blarghcome on help a noob - someone's done it before05:50
snorksVegar: funny.05:50
shawnzProN00b: what package is it?05:50
wilson22hi, can someone tell me where to find the kernel .config for the kernel shipped with 5.04?05:50
ProN00bpftp, shawnz05:51
snorksshawnz: what's the ungzip flags_05:51
shawnztar --help | grep gzip05:51
aleitnerwilson22: do you have it installed?05:51
Thorlo all, can sum1 pls tell me y the GAIM messenger isnt workin anymore, is any using gaim @ the moment to talk to their msn m8s05:52
butcherbirdtck: not on my ubuntu box right now or id take a look at it think i used a slighly different line for source05:52
snorksshawnz: tar -xzf cedega_4.4-1.i386.tgz for example?05:52
shawnzyes snorks.05:52
wilson22I have ubuntu 5.04 installed along with the sources05:52
shawnzz is gzip i assume?05:52
blarghHey if I wanna know what kernel-headers are required...is this right?  "COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | grep kernel-headers-uname -r"05:52
wilson22it's in boot eh?05:52
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VegarThor: I think the MSN servers are having troubles.05:53
aleitnerwilson22: look into /boot/05:53
snorksshawnz: yes05:53
shawnzthen yes05:53
snorksshawnz: and after that I'm done, or?05:53
butcherbirdtck: something like source=orinoco,interfacename,1105:53
tckok05:53
aleitnerwilson22: it is one of the config* files in there. to find out which one you are currently using run 'uname -a'05:53
wilson22aleitner: yeah I just found it :)05:53
shawnzsnorks, then tar creates a cedega_4.4-1.i386 folder05:53
wilson22aleithner: thanks++05:53
tckthat chanel you have at the end ?05:53
aleitnerwilson22: np05:53
ThorVegar: is ther another messenger client that i could use05:53
snorksshawnz: it just creaded a usr/ folder where i unpacked it05:54
VegarThor: No clients will work when the servers you connect to are down.05:54
butcherbirdtck: i would think05:54
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cddesjarhow do i add Release.gpg keys in Ubuntu?05:55
ThorVegar: but i switched OS and tried MSN messenger in windows and it worked, so that must mean servers aint down right05:55
tcknah don't think that's correct05:55
ericzmsn isnt down05:55
VegarThor: try again with gaim05:55
VegarI've been disconnected several times today05:55
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naliothmsn has changed their access protocols...again05:55
ericzim using gaim [on ubuntu]  and ive been on msn for about an hour05:55
ThorVegar:i have been trying since last night aint logging me in,05:55
BERDUGOhello05:55
ProN00bmsn doesn't like gaim, install gaim from source05:56
Thornalioth: i think ur right05:56
VegarThor: I just logged in with gaim.05:56
BERDUGOI was wondering if anyone can help me out05:56
Plebeuznalioth,today?05:56
cddesjari am trying to d/l w32codecs from a site but i need to get the release.gpg key05:56
Plebeuznalioth, today?05:56
fadumpthi, what's a good site find ubuntu breezy badger x64 repositories?05:56
naliothubotu: tell cddesjar about w32codecs05:56
BERDUGOIve been trying to connect to the internet but I cant find where to put the username and password for the adsl connection05:56
naliothPlebeuz: yes today05:56
Plebeuzsuxk05:57
Plebeuzsukx05:57
fadumptor can someone tell me a repository they use for breezy x6405:57
naliothcddesjar: stop bothering that site and read the PM ubotu sent05:57
ThorVegar: if i download gaim latest version from source, will u help me install it pls05:57
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cddesjar!ubotu tell cddesjar about w32codecs05:57
cddesjarthe ubotu didn't send me a message05:57
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naliothubotu is down again, dammit05:57
ubotunalioth: No idea05:57
procrastinationnnative you here?05:57
VegarThor: installing from source will only break your distro05:57
nalioth!test05:57
ubotuPassed.05:57
VegarThor: it's bad05:58
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fadumptHI!05:58
BinaryDigithi!05:58
BERDUGOhello05:58
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BinaryDigit:)05:58
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BERDUGOcan anyone please help me out with configuring my ADSL connectin05:58
cddesjar!w32codecs05:58
ubotuw32codecs is, like, totally, a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy). 64-bit? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5439905:58
PlebeuzThor, download amsn05:58
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ThorVegar: ok, so is ther any other client i can try besides GAIM and Amsn05:58
BERDUGOi already tried sudo pppoeconf but nothing happened05:58
Anak1nsrv>www>htdoc wher is it?05:58
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Sd3gn0hi05:58
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ThorPlebeuz: AMSN keeps crashing05:59
Sd3gn0i've a problem with my graphics card05:59
PlebeuzThor, have u downloaded the tls?05:59
graymanwelcome toi the club Sd3gn005:59
Sd3gn0got this error when launch apps like blender05:59
Sd3gn0Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"05:59
Sd3gn0thank you grayman :-)05:59
PlebeuzThor, try to download latest version05:59
blarghanyone know about installing a WLAN card? Going to throw the damn thing out the window soon...05:59
fadumpt!ubotu tell fadumpt about repositories05:59
BERDUGOis your lancard liksys?06:00
graymanits not the graphic card06:00
graymanits glx06:00
BERDUGOis your lancard liksys?06:00
blarghNetgear06:00
BERDUGOhmmm06:00
Sd3gn0grayman,06:00
Sd3gn0what i've to do?!06:00
fadumptthanks ubotu, you are the best!06:00
r0dis the amd64 chip considered k7?06:00
fadumptk8 i think06:00
blarghAtheros chipset, madwifi drivers supposed to work using ndiswrapper06:00
Plebeuzblargh, u mean a lan over internet?06:00
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fadumptyeah K806:00
BERDUGOit should be plug and play06:00
r0dthx06:00
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graymanyou need drivers with glx extention06:00
fadumptK7 was all athlon XP stuff06:00
graymanwhat card you use?06:00
fadumptand athlon06:00
BERDUGOI had problems with my linksys and thown it away06:00
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BERDUGOcant find a driver anywhere06:00
blarghehehe06:00
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Sd3gn0grayman, i've got the drivers nvidia-glx06:01
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Sd3gn0and i've the "glx" extension in06:01
blarghwireless lan card - it's a netgear W311t (atheros, not the TI)06:01
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Sd3gn0xorg.conf06:01
ThorPlebeuz & Vegar: IT works now, dunno, how or y, been tryin since last night, but decided to work now06:01
graymangmmmmm06:01
graymanhmmmm06:01
r0din synaptic, there is k7-smp. whats that guys?06:01
BERDUGOblargh you know anything about how I can connect to my adls connection I already tried sudo pppoeconf but it doesnt work06:01
dade`my breezy does nott switch to console mode pressing ctrl+alt+F1, anyone knows why ?06:01
PlebeuzThor, heheheh, maybe the server was down06:01
Tomcat_r0d: AMD multiprocessor kernel06:02
blarghBERDUGO: sorry man only been using Linux for a day - my router handles my adsl ;)06:02
ThorPlebeuz: very likely, or i made some n00b mistake soomwher06:02
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Thorlol06:02
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r0di c. thx Tomcat06:02
naliothr0d: it is for dual proc amd boxes (non 64-bit)06:02
Plebeuzheheheheh06:02
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BERDUGOhehehe06:02
BERDUGOthanks06:02
rockin_stan./nickserv register06:02
BERDUGOno prob blargh06:02
tckwhats the comman to update orinoco with cvs06:03
tckany cvs peeps in here ?06:03
BERDUGOso any others here kind enough to lend us a helping hand?06:03
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ThorPlebeuz & Vegar: thanks forr help ;)06:03
graymanSd3gn0, tried to restart X after installing?06:03
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dade`m06:03
dade`non06:03
dade`none06:03
Plebeuz:P kk06:03
dade`i try again06:04
BERDUGOanyone know anything about how I can connect to my adsl connection I already tried sudo pppoeconf but it doesnt work06:04
Plebeuzin slackware i know how to install the wireless card hehehe06:04
Sd3gn0grayman, yes sure06:04
PlebeuzBERDUGO, i know06:04
graymanhmmm06:04
BERDUGOcan you help me out Plebeuz06:04
BERDUGOplease06:04
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BERDUGOits already 12:05AM here and im running out of options06:05
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PlebeuzBERDUGO, vi /etc/networking/interfaces06:05
BERDUGOhehehe06:05
BERDUGOok06:05
graymanhrm. i also had that glx voodoo when used nvidia06:05
BERDUGOso I have to edit the interfaces?06:05
PlebeuzBERDUGO, then config the iface eth006:05
graymanbut i had xfree06:05
BERDUGOok then?06:05
Sd3gn0mmm06:06
blarghSlackware eh...06:06
PlebeuzBERDUGO, u trying to config ur lan to connect whith the adsl?06:06
Plebeuzeh06:06
BERDUGOnopr06:06
BERDUGOIm trying to get my connection up06:06
PlebeuzBERDUGO, how u are connected hier?06:07
BERDUGOcoz everytime i use sudo pppoeconf it doesnt ask me for the username or password06:07
blarghDamn I feel so stupid06:07
BERDUGOit just gives me an error06:07
BERDUGOim using a different PC06:07
Plebeuzok do that06:07
PlebeuzBERDUGO, u are using windows?06:07
BERDUGOnow? unfortunately yes06:08
PlebeuzBERDUGO, go in start, run then cmd06:08
BERDUGOok06:08
PlebeuzBERDUGO, inside cmd write ipconfig06:08
BERDUGOno wait I want to dial up using UBUNTU06:08
PlebeuzBERDUGO, ooo kkk06:08
BERDUGOi had ubuntu installed on the other PC the one I just built06:08
BERDUGOsorry for the trouble06:09
Sd3gn0grayman, don't know?06:09
shawnzBERDUGO, what error did you get when running pppoeconf06:09
BERDUGOso what do you reckon?06:09
graymancant remember how i fixed it. sorry06:09
PlebeuzBERDUGO, do that, use ppp program in network06:09
PlebeuzBERDUGO, aplications, network ppp06:09
BERDUGOhow?06:09
BERDUGOok wait let me check06:09
PlebeuzBERDUGO, then config eth0 for dial06:09
BERDUGOok how do I configure eth0 for dial?06:10
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graymanyou need to make xorg use only nvidia glx06:10
Plebeuzwhere u select the modem, u put the eth06:10
Sd3gn0grayman, no problem06:10
Sd3gn0:-)06:10
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Plebeuzthen just dial with the user and pass06:10
Sd3gn0thank you!06:10
bam_anyone know how to stop the drive icons from "poping" up on my desktop06:10
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Sd3gn0anyone can help me about: "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"06:11
BERDUGOPlebeuz I tried clicking applications but there is nothing there that says network or ppp06:11
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blarghBERDUGO: have you got pppoeconf enabled in Synaptics?06:11
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BERDUGOyes I did06:12
blarghhm06:12
BERDUGOdpkg -l | grep -i pppoe06:12
BERDUGOsudo apt-get install pppoeconf06:12
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blarghand it's installed?06:12
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shawnzwhat error do you get when you run ppoeconf.06:12
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snorksanyone using cedega here? I get CRAP performance, and I should probably edit some config file, but I don't know where that is06:13
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BERDUGOerror: SOrry I scanned one interface, but the access concentrator of your provider did not respond pls check your network and modem cables another reason for the scan failure may also be another running pppoe process06:13
BERDUGOwhich controls the modem06:13
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LaserLineOT - Anyone here ever able to use blueetooth and a reguler printer, via a blutooth printing adapter such as EPoX ?06:14
ericzanyone ever use kannel?06:14
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Kyralsnorks, I use Point2Play in addition to Cedega06:14
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StricklinAny idea why my screen turns to graphics garbage after using the computer for a while?06:15
PlebeuzBERDUGO, u can use the windows as ur gateway06:15
CarlFKwhat is the requirments for /pvt ?  still need to be registered?06:15
snorksKyral: wanna send it over? :)06:15
KyralNope, you have to pay for Point2Play :P06:16
BERDUGOim using two different internet connections and Im trying to get ubuntu to run the other one06:16
graymanaaaaaah06:16
KyralMeaning you need my username and pass :P06:16
BERDUGOyou told me to set eth0 to dial how do I do that06:16
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Sd3gn0Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"06:17
Sd3gn0anyone can help me?06:17
x_madbotthere is a slmodem driver for breezy ?06:17
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hallerdoes someone know how to get a pinnacle pctv 50i tv-card working? i think it has a  saa7133 chipset. i am using breezy, tried tvtime and zapping but get no picture.06:18
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signbarni just did a clean install of breezy (colony 5) on an old laptop i have, and it went great. after the updates, however, the trackpad movement is _way_ too accelerated. where is the config file for the mouse movement?06:18
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Secreth`Xu/msg ubotu split06:18
signbarn(the mouse settings from the system > preferences menu do nothing)06:18
Secreth`Xdarn06:18
BERDUGOran out of ideas?06:19
blarghBERDUGO: http://www.debianhelp.org/index.php?module=pnForum&func=viewtopic&topic=9479&start=006:19
blarghmight help...I dunno06:19
BERDUGOthanks blargh06:19
BERDUGOthanks Plebeuz06:19
shawnzsigh06:19
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shawnzBERDUGO, what error did you get when running pppoeconf!06:19
blarghhe already posted it06:20
shawnzpft06:20
shawnz:(06:20
BERDUGOerror: SOrry I scanned one interface, but the access concentrator of your provider did not respond pls check your network and modem cables another reason for the scan failure may also be another running pppoe process06:20
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BERDUGOerror: SOrry I scanned one interface, but the access concentrator of your provider did not respond pls check your network and modem cables another reason for the scan failure may also be another running pppoe process06:20
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BERDUGOshawnz that is what I got06:20
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shawnzthen... do what blargh said06:20
shawnz=p06:20
toni_hello. i just installed the breezy preview release and it's working fine. i'm wondering if this can be upgraded to release version when it's out? or should i wait 2 weeks and do a fresh install?06:20
blarghahaha06:20
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BERDUGOok h06:20
BERDUGOhehehehe06:20
CarlFKyipee!06:20
blarghnow someone help me goddamn it06:21
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BERDUGOis your problem thw wireless?06:21
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zthhey, i've got some serious problems and i need help! i just upgraded to breezy from hoary using the sample sources.list file and dist-upgrade. Now I have some serious problems, X wont start! It complains about: Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a:fbmmx.o": No symbols found... PLEASE HELP ME!06:21
blarghyeah...just this line: COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | grep kernel-headers-uname -r06:21
BERDUGOupto now I still couldnt get mine running I ended up throwing away my WUSB1106:21
hallertoni_,  i think you can upgrade to the release version06:21
Sd3gn0Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"06:21
blarghsupposed to report back kernel-headers  or something06:22
blarghbut it does nothing06:22
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HiddenFlyi have a fat drive that i can read but i cannot write to. how can i write on it? heres the line from fstab: /media/NO NAME/dcim/100olymp/p1010008.jpg06:22
HiddenFly/media/NO NAME/dcim/100olymp/p1010007.jpg06:22
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HiddenFly/media/NO NAME/dcim/100olymp/p1010005.jpg06:22
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HiddenFly/media/NO NAME/dcim/100olymp/p1010003.jpg06:22
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HiddenFly*it06:22
HiddenFlysry06:22
HiddenFly/dev/sda5 /media/10\040GB\040Disk\040(sda5) vfat rw,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 006:23
HiddenFlythats is06:23
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SpudDoggSeveas, do you know what I need to type in the terminal to see my computer's local IP?06:24
Sd3gn0anyone can help me about this error: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"06:25
SpudDoggDoes anyone know what I need to type in the terminal to see my computer's local IP?06:25
Myrttiifconfig06:25
nightswimifconfig06:25
nightswimor06:25
bzimageifconfig06:25
nightswimip addr show dev eth006:25
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SpudDoggahh thanks06:25
clastifconfig ^^06:26
offby3hola -- can anyone here tell me how to change the priority of kernel module loading?06:26
bzimageand for windows.. ipconfig or winipcfg06:26
bzimage:P06:26
Sd3gn0anyone can help me about this error: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"06:26
offby3I'm loading the wrong version of the fglrx.ko (from video) where the one I want is in char/drm06:26
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bzimageSd3gn0, well edit your xorg.conf accordingly06:26
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bzimagehash the glx module06:27
Sd3gn0bzimage, yes06:27
bzimageor install the proper video drivers06:27
Sd3gn0my xorg.conf06:27
Sd3gn0have the right glx06:27
offby3(for the record, this in on Hoary)06:27
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bzimageSd3gn0, wich video card06:27
bzimage?06:27
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Sd3gn0and (think) i've installed the proper06:28
bzimage(ati? nvidia?)06:28
Sd3gn0driver06:28
Sd3gn0bzimage, nvidia 520006:28
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Sd3gn0apt-get install nvidia-glx06:28
Sd3gn0right?06:28
zthhey, i've got some serious problems and i need help! i just upgraded to breezy from hoary using the sample sources.list file and dist-upgrade. Now I have some serious problems, X wont start! It complains about: Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a:fbmmx.o": No symbols found... PLEASE HELP ME! No one?!06:28
bzimageehm..06:28
bzimageright06:28
bzimagebut you also need the driver itself06:28
bzimage:)06:28
Sd3gn0???06:29
Sd3gn0like?06:29
blarghwww.nvidia.com06:29
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bzimage!nvidia06:29
ubotunvidia is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia06:29
bzimagethere06:29
offby3bzimage, you seem to know your stuff -- can you lend me a hand?06:29
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Plebeuzhello06:30
bzimagewell... ask away06:30
bzimage:)06:30
Sd3gn0guys06:30
Sd3gn0i've installed the driver06:30
bzimagemaybe i or someone can help you06:30
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Sd3gn0http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver06:30
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bzimageSd3gn0, did you looked at the xorg log?06:30
offby3See above: Right now, my ATI kernel module is installed in char/drm, but the old (8.8.5) module is in video06:30
bzimageabout what's wrong?06:30
offby3The latter gets loaded when fglrx is specified in /etc/modules06:31
offby3how can I force the correct one to load?06:31
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Sd3gn0bzimage, i see06:31
Sd3gn0:-)06:31
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Plebeuzanyone know how i can configure the x server to accept login as root? see that for log as root i neet to remove the .X0tmp (or something, log in console then startx, cause the xserver who starts when boot ubuntu does not accept root login06:32
Sd3gn0perhaps06:32
bzimageoffby3, ehm.. i'm not using ati06:32
bzimageso no idea06:32
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bzimage:(06:32
Sd3gn0i've made all the same things06:32
Sd3gn0in06:32
offby3I don't think this is ATI-specific06:32
Sd3gn0https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia06:32
Plebeuzanyone know how i can configure the x server to accept login as root? see that for log as root i need to remove the .X0tmp (or something) log in console then startx, cause the xserver who starts when boot ubuntu does not accept root login06:32
offby3I believe it's just a modprobe/modules issue, I just don't know how to set the load order06:32
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offby3Plebeuz, it's generally considered rude to repeat long questions.  Oh, and no, I don't -- sorry.06:33
butcherbirdPlebeuz: gdmconfig06:33
Plebeuzi have writed wrong06:33
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bzimagePlebeuz, use the gdm configuration tool06:33
butcherbirdPlebeuz: sorry didnt read all the question nm06:33
Plebeuztkz06:33
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blarghnoone's used ndiswrapper here??06:34
bzimagePlebeuz, but why do you want to enable this?06:34
kennethlovehere's a strange question. in hoary's gnome, there was a setting to make windows snap to screen/window edges. i can't find it in breezy's. any idea?06:34
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Plebeuzbzimage, cause i use linux with root always06:34
Plebeuzbzimage, i am logged as root now for example06:35
bzimagePlebeuz, hmm.. ok... (not wise)06:35
BERDUGOThanks for the help guys (even if i didnt get my connection running) I need to sleep best regards to all of you06:35
BERDUGOThanks for the help guys (even if i didnt get my connection running) I need to sleep best regards to all of you06:35
BERDUGOThanks for the help guys (even if i didnt get my connection running) I need to sleep best regards to all of you06:35
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afd_hi! Anybody has experience with xcompmgr? When I maximize a window it covers the top and bottom panels. Any solutions?06:35
Plebeuzbzimage, i like the adrenaline like for a mistake i execute rm -rf /06:36
bzimagePlebeuz, i only go root if needed...06:36
Plebeuzbzimage, heheheh06:36
bzimagePlebeuz, ok.. :)06:36
bzimagei used to do that too06:36
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Plebeuzbzimage, i like to cause and solve troubles on linux06:36
bzimagetrail and error things.. (as root)06:36
Myrttiwtf, always as ROOT? that's insane06:36
afd_PlanarPlatypus, sudo bash :)06:36
Sd3gn0bzimage, i've find the error06:36
Sd3gn0can i paste here?!?!06:36
Myrttinope06:37
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bzimageno06:37
bzimagejust explain06:37
Myrtti!pastebin06:37
ubotu[pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl06:37
bzimage:)06:37
bzimageor indeed pastebin06:37
bzimage:)06:37
blarghok fixed my problem...there's a space in the command I didn't see....dammit06:37
blarghcya06:37
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Plebeuzi will be back06:38
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Plebeuzquit i will be back06:39
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Sd3gn0http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/271706:39
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Sd3gn0that is the error i've in xorg.0.log06:40
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bzimageok..06:40
bzimageSd3gn0, try sudo modprobe nvidia06:40
bzimageand then reload your desktop06:40
Sd3gn0ok 1 sec06:40
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Sd3gn0bzimage, but i'm downloading06:41
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bzimageooh06:41
bzimageok06:41
Sd3gn0can't reboot now06:41
bzimagei'm not talking about reboot06:41
Sd3gn0ctrl-alt-backspae?06:41
Sd3gn0*backspace06:41
Sd3gn0reboot X?06:41
afd_ubuntu breeze doesn't show the icons in the pager. What can I do?06:41
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bzimagei'm talking about reload your X06:41
Sd3gn0ok06:41
bzimage(but if your downloading.. let it finish)06:41
bzimage;)06:42
Sd3gn0mmm let me think06:42
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Sd3gn0bzimage, if i've already done modprobe nvidia???06:42
bzimage?06:42
_native_kc06:42
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bzimageSd3gn0, also check that /etc/modules has nvidia in it..06:43
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StricklinI entered 'sudo gedit /usr/share/applications/NVIDIA-Settings.desktop' and got the following: '(gedit:7687): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.' Is this going to be a problem?06:43
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bzimageso it will load the nvidia module on startup06:43
bzimage(not by default)06:43
Plebeuzhey people i trying to run a script in boot, i created them, then i puted on /etc/int.d/ thein i ln -s on /etc/rc5.d , but the script dont booted06:43
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Sd3gn0yes06:43
Sd3gn0but06:43
Sd3gn0i've tried to start blender06:43
spiralhi06:43
Sd3gn0now06:44
Sd3gn0after06:44
Sd3gn0modprobe nvidia06:44
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Sd3gn0but nothing06:44
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bzimageafter the modprobe.. you need to restart x06:44
theinePlebeuz, how did you link the script?06:44
bzimagequit your session (gnome, kde or whatever you use)06:44
bzimagethen relogin06:44
Sd3gn0ok06:44
PlebeuzS99test -> /etc/init.d/test06:44
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tckemm i cant find the latest kernel source with synaptic06:45
Plebeuztheine, 0 lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   17 2005-10-02 00:48 S99test -> /etc/init.d/test06:45
theinePlebeuz, that should be ok06:45
Sd3gn0bzimage, don't have /etc/modules...06:45
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bzimageSd3gn0, ?06:45
tckuname -r = 2.6.12-9-38606:45
bzimageofcourse youdo06:45
tckand it only goes up to 2.6.11 in synaptic06:45
FrdPrefctPlebeuz: Try /etc/rc2.d06:45
theinePlebeuz, could be that runlevel 5 is not the default runlevel06:45
FrdPrefct# The default runlevel.06:46
FrdPrefctdidymo:06:46
theinePlebeuz, have a look at /etc/inittab06:46
FrdPrefctdidymo:06:46
FrdPrefcthow odd06:46
Plebeuzid:2:initdefault:06:46
Plebeuzok06:46
FrdPrefct.id:2:initdefault:06:46
Plebeuzu right06:46
bzimageSd3gn0, (you need to sudo that file.. otherwise no access)06:46
Plebeuztkz06:46
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tckhow do i install the kernel source in breexy ?06:47
bzimageSd3gn0, if you know vi(m) try: sudo vi /etc/modules06:47
Sd3gn0bzimage, es06:47
Sd3gn0yes i've find it06:47
Sd3gn0sorry06:47
Sd3gn0;-)06:47
Sd3gn0and I've the nvidia06:47
Sd3gn0ther06:47
Sd3gn0e06:47
Sd3gn0ok06:47
Plebeuzhey why ubuntu starts in runlevel 2 in default?06:48
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t4k3r0n_a06:49
bzimagePlebeuz, because they set it that way :P06:49
Kirschdare I ask how ATI Mobility support is in Breezy?06:49
mr_robotohttp://www.phildev.net/runlevels.html06:49
mr_robotohandy reference06:49
tckim running 2.6.12-9-386, but when i try apt-get install kernel-source06:50
bzimagemr_roboto, depends on distro.. wich runlevel is what06:50
bzimage:P06:50
tckmy kernel version aint there, any ideas ?06:50
Sd3gn0bzimage, i've loaded nvidia06:50
Sd3gn0now i've to restart X?06:50
bzimageyes06:50
Plebeuzbzimage,  what the purpose of that?06:50
Sd3gn0ok i try06:50
Kirschbzimage: do u know anyting about Mobility support in Breezy?06:50
mr_robotobzimage: that's what that web page says06:50
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bzimageKirsch, no sorry06:51
Sd3gn0reboot06:51
bzimage<-- no ati user (or experience)06:51
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n00bsterhi all, is there an  xface Download Accelerator Manager in ubuntu Like FlashGet in win ?06:51
Kirschok06:51
mr_robotoKirsch: were you using it in hoary?06:51
KirschYea06:51
Kirschi think so06:51
Kirschi don't remember if i reset it up tho since i did it06:52
Kirschits possible i didn't06:52
mr_robotoKirsch: reason I ask is I use it to and upgrading to Breezy even as I type on my laptop06:52
mr_robotohope it works!06:52
Kirschoh, u haven't done it yet06:52
Kirschlet me know06:52
Plebeuzmr_roboto, that tutorial is wrong..06:52
KirschPM me06:52
mr_robotodoing it right now06:52
Kirschok06:52
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Kirschdo u want to make a package if it works? ;-)06:52
mr_robotoPlebeuz: wrong in the sense that graphics are enabled in lower levels on various linuxes, yes :)06:52
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brosioi've install mysql-server it is running, but the port of server isn't open! what could be ?06:53
mr_robotoKirsch: if I knew how, I might!   :)06:53
aehohave anyone got nvidian 3d acceleration working in breezy badger?06:53
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graighello, does anyone know why my system clock randomly and incorrectly advances an hour every once in a while?06:53
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Kirschgraig: bad battery?06:53
Sd3gn0bzimage, i've restarted06:54
Sd3gn0but nothing06:54
Sd3gn0i've the module loade06:54
Plebeuzmr_roboto, runlevel 1 is single user, runlevel 2 is multiuser, runlevel 3 is text, runlevel 4 grphic and text(normaly start in text), runlevel 5 graphic(start in graphic, runlevel 6 reboot...06:54
Sd3gn0d06:54
mr_robotoKirsch: probably won't find out until later this afternoon though. need to leave soon and it's still downloading massive amounts of stuff!06:54
bzimageSd3gn0, are you sure?06:54
Sd3gn0yes06:54
Sd3gn0lsmod | grep nvidia06:54
Plebeuzmr_roboto, i am wrong?06:54
bzimageok...06:54
Sd3gn0nvidia               4569532  806:54
mr_robotoPlebeuz: yes, wrong :)06:54
Kirschyea i bet it could take some time, it only took me like 10min to download all the packages (i'm on an EDU)06:54
Sd3gn0think that's right06:54
Plebeuzmr_roboto, ....06:54
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bzimagehmm06:55
mr_robotoPlebeuz: there are no hard rules on what a unix system has to do on the various run levels, they usually agree on 1 and 6 though06:55
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StricklinERROR: NV-CONTROL extension not found on this Display.06:55
mr_robotoPlebeuz: i think 2-5 are identical in ubuntu06:55
mr_robotocould be wrong06:55
Plebeuzmr_roboto, i think u are thinking in debian, and i am thinking on general linux based distributions06:55
Kirschi still don't understand what the reason was for the removal of terminal on the right click? (i'm very happy there was a fix tho)06:55
Plebeuzmr_roboto, yes06:55
mr_robotoPlebeuz: oh well yes, all linuxes are definitely not the same06:55
mr_robotoi should say, all distributions06:56
efbieHello everyone ! I have a friend that uses ubuntu and he has two soundcards, but ubuntu uses only the onboard wich is crappy. Only xine use the second, do you have any tips how to enable the second soundcard by default ?06:56
Plebeuzmr_roboto, but normally is like i writed, fedora core, slackware, conectiva etc...06:56
mr_robotoPlebeuz: you can do whatever you want if you play with the scripts :)06:56
Kirschefbie: it might be easier to just disable the onboard soundcard06:56
Plebeuzyes06:56
efbieKirsch, in the bios ?06:57
mr_robotoPlebeuz: I think Suse is also as you said, if I remember06:57
Kirschyea06:57
efbieok, will try06:57
Plebeuzmr_roboto, so, there is no rulez like cvs distributions for init levels?06:57
zthhow do i set my local variable to use gcc-3.4 instead of 4.0?06:57
Kirschi think u just need to change the symbolic link?06:57
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mr_robotoPlebeuz: not sure what you mean. there is no "standard" across all Unixes, or even across Linux distributions.  (don't get the cvs refernce)06:58
StricklinHow do I exit X?06:58
KirschALT-CTRL-BACKSPACE06:58
ProN00blol06:59
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mr_robotoCan someone tell me what a colony is?  (Colony 5 is out)07:00
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graigdoes anyone know why my system clock randomly looses an hour of time?  i don't think it's the battery, because when i turn it off it doesn't loose the time.07:00
Sd3gn0anyone can help me about this error:???07:01
Sd3gn0http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/271707:01
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ccookegraig: did you reboot into windows?07:01
afd_graig, maybe you have ntp update turned one07:01
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Kirschto the wrong timezone?07:02
ccookeIt's a common thing with linux and windows interacting.07:02
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graigbut i don't have windows.07:02
d33pwhat's the url of the hoary backports? http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ doesn't work07:02
_native_anyone have wpa working under breezy?07:02
Kirschoohoohh, DENIED haha07:02
graigjust linux, and it happens with ntp enabled, and disabled.07:03
ccookegraig: that's very interesting.07:03
graigi thought ntp autoupdate was doing it, so i turned it off.07:03
Patkei've got a question: can Ubuntu be upgraded to a new version without the internet - with a CD of a new version?07:03
ccookePatke: yes07:03
KirschPatke: yes07:03
graigand every once in a while when its 12 pm, my computer will say 1pm.07:03
graiglike it added another hour.07:03
Kirsch:-\07:03
ccookegraig: it's always one hour?07:03
graigyes.07:03
jdubGOOD MORNING FREEDOM LOVERS!07:03
graigits always one hour.07:04
ccookegraig: is it always *adding* an hout, never removing it?07:04
graigi think so.07:04
ccooke(to the correct time)07:04
mr_robotoCan someone help me?  I'm trying to upgrade Ubuntu Hoary to Windows 95 SE   any advice?07:04
ccookeright. It's probably a timezone thing.07:04
Kirschso its never more than 1hr off?07:04
graigno, it adds an hour to the incorrect time.07:04
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graigyeah.07:04
ccookewait.07:04
ccookeSummer time.07:04
Kirschis it alwyas 1hr or 0? like can it be 28min off?07:04
csshello07:04
graigi think its exactly one hour.07:04
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butcherbirdmr_roboto: you consider that an upgrade ? =)07:04
Kirschare you in the correct timezone?07:04
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graigbut i have the correct timezone selected.07:04
ccookegraig: new install? old install? Breezy?07:05
d33pwhat's the url of the hoary backports? http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ doesn't work07:05
csshow old is everyone07:05
jdubeveryone here seen http://fridge.ubuntu.com/ ? not officially announced yet, you guys get a preview :-)07:05
Kirschd33p: works for me07:05
jdubd33p: they're now on archive.ubuntu.com07:05
Patkeso if I have 5.04 installed and get 5.10 (when it gets out) on a cd I can just upgrade it without downloading anything?07:05
kennethloveold enough to not ask a/s/l in a tech channel.07:05
mr_robotobutcherbird: sorry :)    stupid joke      just waiting on breezy to d/l on laptop07:05
Plebeuzhey biology people take a look at http://linuxfocus.org/English/August2005/article388.shtml07:05
graigchicago is central time right?07:05
mr_robotograig: yes07:05
jdubPatke: if you haven't installed any extra packages, yes07:05
butcherbirdheh07:05
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jdubPatke: but if you've installed other stuff from main or universe, you07:05
d33plooking for the sun-j2re package07:05
Patkejdub: what do you mean by extra packages?07:05
jdubPatke: but if you've installed other stuff from main or universe, you'll have to download those in the process07:06
jdubPatke: if you've installed anything via apt, synaptic or gnome-app-installl07:06
jdubPatke: there's a huge amount of stuff in our repos not included on the CD :-)07:06
graigcould it be a bios setting?07:06
ccookecss: Well, there's what? about 6 billion people in the world. Average age would be somewhere around twentyish... so, in total, something around a hundred and twenty billion. That help?07:07
Patkejdub: so I just need to reinstall the apps but my documents stay unchanged?07:07
d33pwhat should I include in /etc/apt/sources.list to have backports in hoary?07:07
jdubgraig: try restarting ntpdate to get the system running at the right time, and run hwclock --systohc07:07
cssHELLO07:07
cssHOW OLD IS EVERYONE?07:08
jdubPatke: ah, hmm.07:08
csssorry07:08
jdubPatke: you've done a default install -> have you added any applications with synaptic?07:08
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Patkejdub: some07:08
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csswhats the age range07:08
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css??07:08
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mr_robotowtf? did i enter an aol chat room?07:08
cssAAAHHHHHHHHHHH07:08
Fleckshawnz what's difference between deb and ubuntu ?07:08
jdubPatke: ok, so when you upgrade, it's fairly likely that you'll hit the network to download new versions of those07:09
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jdubFleck: there's a faq on www.ubuntu.com with details about that07:09
synicanyone have a creative mp3 player?  gnomad2 seems to have stopped working in breezy07:09
Fleckok07:09
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Patkejdub: no problem, but my documents (text,music,videos...) don't get erased?07:09
csshOW DO YOU CHANGE COLOUR07:09
css?07:09
jdubPatke: not at all07:09
SanderDHi. I've just messed up the MBR I think (using fixboot in Windows), so Grub can't boot. Can I fix this from a LiveCD?07:09
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KirschSanderD: i think so07:09
Patkejdub: thx, that's all I needed to know.07:09
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ccookecss: Please don't shout. Change the colour of what?07:10
Kirschyou can mount your old system and reinstall grub07:10
SanderDKirsch: With grub-install?07:10
cssMy font.07:10
KirschI think so.07:10
Kirschcss: in IRC?07:10
cssI was stuck on cap locks.07:10
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graigshawnz ubuntu comes on 1 cd, debian has 1-5 cd's.   ubuntu is supposed to be easier, and has a better default desktop/selection of programs for people just starting out with linux.07:10
fbnwhat package is sound-preferences for a bugreport?07:11
shawnzuh, why are you telling me graig07:11
shawnzFleck asked07:11
jdubfbn: control-center07:11
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obsvuugjdoes enemy territory work on ubuntu amd64?07:11
fbnjdub, thanks07:11
Fleckhehe :))07:11
graigahhh hehe :)07:11
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cssHow old is evry107:12
mjr(to breezy)07:12
css?07:12
graig2707:12
mr_robotoKirsch: can you do something like "dpkg-reconfigure grub" in that case?07:12
csshow old r you ccokie07:12
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jatoshi07:12
cssHello??07:12
Kirschmr_roboto: i don't know, if he changes is sysroot to /mnt/sysimage he probably can07:13
mr_robotostill getting  a handle on debian, seems like the way to fix broken configs in general is dpkg-reconfigure07:13
Kirschi avoid doing that unless i really NEED to... its just reinstall grub, i'd do that if just doing grub-install doesn't work07:13
jatoshow would I tell ubuntu to use a french keyboard layout?07:13
ccooke!tell css about offtopic07:13
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Kirschjatos: when you first boot, it will ask u for a type of keyboard.07:14
Kirschjatos: installing it rather,07:14
vladuz976what do i need to install to get the full kde desktop?07:14
clastjatos, system>preferences>keyboard>layouts07:14
jdubvladuz976: kubuntu-desktop07:14
Kirschvladuz976: u may want to use kubuntu07:14
vladuz976is there a bundle ?07:14
Kirschor that07:14
vladuz976Kirsch: already have ubuntu installed07:14
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Kirschah ok07:14
jatosclast, in kde or gnome?07:14
cssWhat about offtopic07:15
clastjatos, gnome07:15
jatosright07:15
jatosthanks brb07:15
Kirschcss: join #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to engage in questions not related to support07:15
d33pdon't find any working source for backports, anybody has any working urls?07:15
SanderDKirsch: I'm getting this error when doing "grub-install /dev/sda" now: "/dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive."07:15
jdubd33p: the backports are now hosted on archive.ubuntu.com07:15
Kirschyou know what was interesting about this problem07:15
Kirschmy roommate had the same issue, and he went about trying to just reinstall ubuntu07:16
clastd33p, deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main restricted universe multiverse07:16
Kirschbut hoping that it wouldn't reinstall any packages since it was still there but hoping grub would install07:16
SanderDKirsch: I'm getting this error now: /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.07:16
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Kirschubuntu specifically said that there's nothing to do, so i'm not even going to bother installing grub again07:16
vladuz976Kirsch: only differnce is kde and gnome, right?07:16
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Kirschwhen that was the only tthing that we were trying to do.07:16
SanderDSorry, something wrong with my irssi07:16
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KirschSanderD: are you on the live CD?07:16
Kirschvladuz976: i think so.07:16
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fbnis it possible to change severity in Launchpad as bug reporter?07:16
clastlol?07:16
SanderDKirsch: yes.07:17
Kirschvladuz976: kwrite (or kate, i don't use kubuntu) as apposed to gedit07:17
jdubvladuz976: the kubuntu-desktop metapackage is what kubuntu installs instead of ubuntu-desktop07:17
KirschSanderD: do the chroot command to mkae ur root /mnt/sysimage07:17
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Kirschthen u can try to dothe dpkg-reconfigure grub07:17
jdubvladuz976: but both metapackages (and everything they depend on) co-exist07:17
vladuz976jdub: yeah i just read about it. thanks.07:17
clastd33p, btw how are your graphics card drivers doing?07:18
vladuz976jdub: so now i am gonna have kubuntu and ubuntu :)07:18
SanderDKirsch: How do I do that? The partition is at /dev/sda1 and mounted on /media/root.07:18
Kirschi think its07:18
Kirschchroot /media/root07:18
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Kirschi g/g for a bit, i'l be back in about 10min07:19
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SanderDKirsch, okay, thanks for your help.07:19
jatosbacl07:19
damo21i dont understand why anyone would use windows ever again07:19
damo21:D07:19
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znhdamo21, people that aren't aware of the uglyness of bill gates07:20
jatoswell it seems to have changed the settings in gnome but I have just gone back to KDE and its still eng kb layout07:20
r0dznh most people just dont care.07:20
damo21its not the uglyness of bill gates... its the uglyness of the OS he stole07:21
jatoswill it loads the FR kb layout when I logout of KDE and log back in?07:21
clastjatos: well you do have to change it in kde too, gnome and kde are seperat things07:21
clastjatos, there should be a similar option in kde07:21
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boneefluxbox07:21
jatosI found it in KDE but it doesn't work07:21
r0ddamo21, he bought it for 50g's brotha07:21
jatosthough gnome did complain that it coudln't uninstall GB settings07:21
clastjatos, hmmm....weird07:22
damo21yeah, like i said... nothing07:22
vladuz976anyone know how you can switch between kdm and gdm?07:22
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r0dstole != bought. but i get your point07:22
jatoschange the symlinks vladuz97607:22
mr_robotodamo21: games are one reason ;)07:22
vladuz976jatos: which ones?07:22
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jatosproviding you got the one you want installed07:22
damo21yes games are the only reason07:22
mjrvladuz976, dpkg-reconfigure gdm (or kdm), I think07:22
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mjrvladuz976, oh, with sudo07:22
tobi-wanhi folks07:23
vladuz976mjr: thanks07:23
jatosone symlink wil lsay kdm the other gdm, move the one that starts the display manager your don't want vladuz97607:23
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damo21Does anyone know if Japanese is fully supported in openoffice07:24
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damo21like, to type the full character list by merging shorter characters07:24
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damo21actually, i mean supported by gnome07:25
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r0danyone here convert to opera since the new "ad-free" version????07:25
damo21whats so good about opera?07:26
r0dnothing from what i can tell. purrty interface. thats about it07:26
damo21actually, there is a site i cant access with firefox, even though i have the plugins07:26
D1ELEVEN MORE DAYS!!!!07:27
r0dthey have somewhat of a search engine inbedded, but nothing like firefox. just would like to know if anyone here thinks its better07:27
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Kirschr0d: i got one, i got it when they gave free keys07:27
funkyHatlinuxdojo07:27
damo21i like firefox07:27
funkyHatdoh07:27
bob2r0d: why don't you just give it a go? ;)07:27
Kirschi do like it, but there are things about FF that I got used to, if i had gone from IE to something else again, i'd probab ly be on opera.07:27
shinuwhy does my externad hard drive show up as hdb and not hda?07:27
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D1because your primary hd is hda probably.07:27
shinuthere isnt any other device that is taking up the 'hda'07:27
shinuoh07:28
shinusorry07:28
damo21external drive??07:28
damo21how did u boot then?07:28
shinusdb instead or sda is what i meant07:28
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r0dbob2,  lol played w/ it.07:28
r0dbob2,  can i guess to say your a user?07:28
bob2r0d: no07:28
r0dbob2, phew07:28
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r0d<---open source all the way07:29
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damo21i think linux is in danger of being too divergent with all its packages07:29
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r0ddistros or software?07:29
shinuD1, damo21: sorry, i meant that it shows up as sdb instead or sda07:29
jatosdamo21, I agree with you to an extent07:30
damo21like, it takes too much effort to maintain one particular distro07:30
damo21im all for open source07:30
bob2damo21: this sounds uninformed and off-topic; please take it elsewhere07:30
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damo21but ubuntu is probably the best ive seen07:30
r0dahh good comeback, lol07:31
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foampeicewhy does my xmms crash on the initializing of the alarm module07:31
damo21:D07:31
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r0dyea ubuntu and gentoo are my homeboys07:31
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r0dthinking of getting a shirt made...07:31
damo21uninformed? ive played with almost all distros07:31
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apokryphosdamo21: #ubuntu-offtopic07:32
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damo21ok lol07:32
Stricklinhttp://charlesstricklin.com/2005/10/02/ubuntu/07:32
r0dyour gonna have to sit in the corner pretty soon damo2107:32
r0d:D07:32
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sylvanHelp! Ubuntu messed up the boot options (after the latest upgrade via synaptic) when I restart! I vaguely recall a nice graphical program where you could modify the order and such of the boot options in GRUB, but I can't find it! Anyone know?07:32
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yarddogwhy does the channel display #ubuntu-unregged ?07:33
r0dhow easy is the transition to the ole badger?07:33
r0dbeen scared to do it07:33
jatosyarddog, bcause you not a registered freenode user07:33
apokryphosr0d: it only requires altering one file, and then running one command, so in that sense it's trivial. Whether you have problems is another issue, but it should in theory be reasonably stable now.07:34
yarddoguhm07:34
damo21i just formatted my ntfs partition and started from scratch07:34
damo21:D07:34
yarddog[yarddog]  is identified to services07:34
yarddogexcuse me?07:34
r0dapokryphos,  that sounds like a green light to me07:34
apokryphosyarddog: you're in #ubuntu not #ubuntu-unregged07:34
foampeicehow would i use deborphan in combination with apt-get remove07:34
jatosyou need to register (reserve) you nickname then log in07:34
yarddogapokryphos, ok, it says #ubuntu-unregged, just an fyi07:35
sylvananyone? How do I modify the entries in the boot-menu? The latest update removed windows from it among other minor inconveniences!07:35
apokryphosr0d: it still hasn't technically reached stable status, but quite a few in here have been using it for several weeks. Your decision, of course; ubuntu does support a stable -> stable dist-upgrade07:35
BlankBIs there a place that has a package list with version #'s for breezy?07:35
apokryphosBlankB: packages.ubuntu.com07:35
jatosyarddog, type /msg nickserv register yarddog07:35
el_torosylvan, you have to put your custom entries outside the part that gets re-generated on every grub update07:35
n00bsteris there an  xface Download Accelerator Manager in ubuntu ?07:35
yarddogbreezy works well for me, the 5.04 froze07:35
apokryphosBlankB: or, in here, /msg ubotu info somepackage breezy07:36
funkyHathas anyone else had problems running beagle?07:36
yarddogjatos, you're wrong07:36
yarddogjatos, whois me07:36
sylvanel_toro, what do you mean?07:36
damo21when does breezy official come out?07:36
kemik13th07:36
apokryphosdamo21: /topic07:36
funkyHat13th07:36
el_torosylvan, you have to edit your menu.lst file07:36
sylvanThere was a graphical program where I could modify this (I think it was in preferences) but it's gone now07:36
BlankBapokryphos: thanks that is exactly what I wanted.07:36
sylvanwhere is that?07:36
jatosok yarddog , apologies07:36
el_toroboot/grub07:37
yarddognp07:37
damo21what apokryphos?07:37
apokryphosdamo21: /topic = check the channel topic07:37
damo21lol oh yes07:37
sylvanthere's no program to help me do this? I could've swore I've seen one before that worked well when it came to changing priorities at least07:37
r0dI still hoping they released some certifications for ubuntu.07:37
obsvuugjdoes Enemy Territory work on Ubuntu amd64 ?07:37
damo21it does if u compile it07:38
el_torosylvan, used to be a boot manager preference thingy, but that seems to have disappeared in recent updates07:38
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sylvanwhat's it called, maybe it's still in synaptic?07:38
obsvuugjdamo21>does it work on the .run ?07:38
el_torosylvan, doubt it07:38
damo21i dont know, i dont have 64 bit but i know if u compile anything yourself it will work07:38
el_toroanyway, it's just a little text-file editing, and you only have to do it once07:39
sylvanokay, the first partition on my the first disk is (hd0,0) right?07:39
r0dyep07:39
el_tororight-o07:39
obsvuugjdamo21> how do I complie ? ./configure && make && sudo make install ?07:39
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damo21how do u compile?  try a gentoo stage 1 installation u will learn how to compile07:40
damo21:D07:40
funkyHathaha07:40
r0dsylvan,  I had same problem when i had a dual-booting system. dam microsoft is mbr hog07:40
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KarnivoreHey people07:40
n00bstercan somone assist me ?07:40
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evianhow come gnome uses esd instead of alsa?07:40
obsvuugjis it ./configure && make && sudo make install07:40
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r0dn00bster,  just ask question bud07:41
n00bsteris there an  xface Download Accelerator Manager in ubuntu ?07:41
sylvanwhat does "chainloader +1" mean?07:41
ProN00b./pftp: error while loading shared libraries: libpftputil.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory07:41
sylvanand "makeactive"?07:41
kemikobsvuugj:  usuallly..07:41
damo21obsvuugj try it07:41
apokryphosobsvuugj: it's generally conventional to specify the prefix for many apps, on the configure. Are you sure you have the source, though, and that you should compile it?07:41
obsvuugjok07:41
ProN00bwhy do i get that through that library is in /usr/local/lib07:41
kemikobsvuugj:  read the "INSTALL" or "README" file07:41
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cantona_Breezy Colony 5 is pre relesae?07:41
n00bster?07:42
thrice`well, it's before the release07:42
apokryphoscantona_: yes07:42
KarnivoreIs Ubuntu a good build of Linux to learn about Linux in general? I'm going into different IT jobs after uni and Linux is used alot in networking of course07:42
thrice`so I guess so07:42
n00bsterwell rob, i did :)07:42
cantona_Does it support IBM X32?07:42
r0dn00bster, when someone doesnt answer, usally means they dont know. do a linux google search on it07:42
eviancantona_ I don't know about Colony 5, but breezy should be released this month07:42
n00bsteri found onlly progzilla, but it's console based.07:43
yarddogi dont see pre-release anywhere on that url07:43
apokryphosthe Colony releases are just snapshots of the development done on the given distro-in-work in ISOs07:43
n00bsterand i'm looking for en xface program07:43
damo21sylvan: chainloader +1 is to tell the cpu to execute the boot code at the next physical block on the disk07:43
evianKarnivore: I think it is good07:43
r0dor ask the almighty bob207:43
r0dno private though.. he'll spank u07:43
obsvuugjI cant find the source for linux ....07:43
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Plebeuzchecking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) works... no07:44
JDigitalKarnivore: I think it's as good as any other, at least07:44
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apokryphosPlebeuz: sudo aptitude install build-essential07:44
JDigitalbut then I've only used Ubuntu07:44
TrekCyclingis the Breezy preview the latest version of Breezy?07:44
r0dobsvuugj,  in synaptic or on the net?07:44
KarnivoreOkay thanks, it always a start07:44
Plebeuzohhh07:44
obsvuugjin the official ssite of ET07:44
Karnivore I tried Gentoo but didnt like it that much07:44
Plebeuzgcc is not installed07:44
kemikKarnivore:  linux from scratch07:44
TrekCyclingor is there a different place to get the latest cut of Breezy?07:44
KyralPlebeuz, install the build-essiential package07:45
Kyralbut spelled right07:45
damo21gentoo is very good, but after 1 year you realise it takes too much time to maintain07:45
apokryphosTrekCycling: Colony 5 is the latest ISO release07:45
Karnivoreyeah, you have to compile things all the time dont you07:45
TrekCyclingThat's what I want07:45
damo21yes07:45
TrekCyclingwhere do you get the Colony ISOs?07:45
apokryphosTrekCycling: /topic07:45
damo21ubuntu is excellent07:45
PlebeuzKyral, i dont like to install things by apt get, that messed up with linux07:45
r0dobsvuugj,  go to kernel.org  for latest07:45
r0dobsvuugj,  or just type "linux source" in synaptic07:46
TrekCyclingoh duh, thanks07:46
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kemikPlebeuz:  apt-get is preffered over compiling yourself if you wanna keep your system 'clean'07:46
KyralPlebeuz, then how will you install things on Ubuntu?07:46
KyralSurely you don't want to put yourself through Dependency Hell07:46
Plebeuz.deb package07:46
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Plebeuzor tar.gz07:46
kemikPlebeuz:  removing stuff yuo've compiled yourself is often messy07:46
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Kyralguess what, Debs are Apt :P07:46
kemikKyral:  no07:46
damo21Kyral he will use synaptic i assume07:46
KyralApt is a fronted to dselect07:46
apokryphoskemik: not really; make uninstall :P07:46
r0dobsvuugj, its alittle more process to compling your own kernel. i remember having to downloading some support files...07:46
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Kyralin theory07:47
foampeicehow do i put each line of a text file if it were a list of packages onto the commandline to be processed by apt-get remove ?07:47
obsvuugjr0d> not the kernel, the source code of enemy territory :P07:47
KyralOkay, the way I see it07:47
transparentdreamIs there a graphing program for ubuntu like a graphing calcuilator?07:47
kemikapokryphos:  not all programs are nice07:47
r0dahh07:47
KyralApt acts like a bigass search engine for dselect/dpkg07:47
r0dguess i need my coffee07:47
apokryphoskemik: sure; but they _generally_ have a nice make uninstall07:47
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Plebeuzkemik, make uninstall works fine for me07:47
foampeicebuchan: what packages do you need to run sympatico?07:47
el_torogood ol checkinstall07:47
cantona_i think apt is better than aptitute, anyone agree?07:47
D1breezy needs an updated gnome-power-manager. ;[07:47
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buchano_O07:48
apokryphoscantona_: aptitude is a front-end to apt07:48
foampeicedo any of the package managers show orphans?07:48
apokryphoscantona_: apt-get is also a front-end to apt07:48
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n00bsterqwestion: is there a way to play my win' games in Linux ? (insted of booting to windows)07:48
blekoshello ppl07:48
Kyralfoampeice, sudo apt-get install debfoster07:48
r0di hope badger has BUM by default07:48
apokryphosfoampeice: deborphan does, and aptitude keeps track of them.07:48
damo21ok, guys everyone who wants to chat about how cool ubuntu is lets go to #ubuntu-offtopic07:48
cantona_apokryphos, it's differece with apt-get and aptitute install ....07:48
blekosdo u know any good ftp with gui?07:48
foampeiceKyral: debfoster?07:48
stperen00bster, look for Cedega07:48
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Kyralits either deborphan or debfoster07:49
Kyralone just lists orphans07:49
apokryphoscantona_: sure; but you said "better than apt", which is incomplete :P07:49
kemikcantona_:  not really any difference07:49
n00bsterok, thanks stpere.07:49
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buchanIs the Ubuntu GTK theme and the likes  availble to download online anywhere?07:49
rockin_stananybody managed to get the last.fm player running under gnome?07:49
apokryphosKyral: nope, they can both remove them, but they serve slightly different functions07:49
Kyralthe other actually goes through your list and asks if you wanna uninstall things07:49
kemikcantona_:  i mean, they both utilize the same "core" or whatever you like to callit07:49
apokryphosKyral: debfoster works with conjugation of other packages which it holds on to07:49
r0dblekos, gftp is a gui based client07:49
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Kyralyah, I get'em mixed up07:49
Karnivorestpere, does that mean with Cedega you could run windows games on a mac, through ubuntu?07:49
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blekosthanx r0d07:50
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r0d:D07:50
stpereKarnivore, I don't think so07:50
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stpereKarnivore, because it's not an emulator07:50
buchanKarnivore: No.07:50
stpereKarnivore, only a Windows API translation/implementation07:50
foampeiceapokryphos: how do you remove the orphans in aptitude?07:51
Karnivoreokay I didnt think so, just dreaming :)07:51
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r0dany .net programmers here use mono?07:51
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buchanKarnivore: Maybe once Mac goes x86 there will be Cedega for it.07:51
stperesomeone know why I installed the nvidia drivers (supplied by ubuntu), I do get the nvidia logo on startup but...07:52
Burkehi all07:52
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Karnivoreyeah thats a good point07:52
stperestill no direct rendering07:52
KyralHoary or Breezy?07:52
stpereme? Hoary07:52
Kyralnm then07:52
Kyraldidja do sudo nvidia-glx enable?07:52
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shebbreezy upgrades are messing up wirelessconnections07:52
stperesudo nvidia-glx-config enable07:52
Kyralor whatever that command is?07:52
stpereyes I did07:52
Kyralreload X07:53
stperedone this07:53
BurkeQuestion, can Hoary Live save my configs?07:53
foampeicehow do i use debfoster to remove orphans?07:53
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stpereI'm really confused now07:53
stpere:-P07:53
Kyralfoampeice, do a sudo debfoster07:53
Kyralit will go through EVERY package in your system and ask you about it (Keep, Remove, Purge)07:54
shebbreezy problems07:54
stperemy xorg.conf file seems ok since it has "nvidia" rather than "nv"07:54
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Kyralstpere, only thing I can think of is that your card isn't supported by the drivers07:54
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KyralI know SOME older cards aren't supported anymore07:54
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stpereno, nevermind I found it07:54
Kyralah good then07:55
stpereshame on me :-)07:55
willvarfarwhich package do I need to get pthreads?07:55
stpereleft a Load "dri"07:55
vengeful_installed breezy last week and it even detected the crappy belkin in my desktop....and the pro wireless in laptop07:55
KyralI always compile my NVidia from scratch07:55
helmetheddhello all07:55
vengeful_no problems07:55
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damo21yes u need Load "dri" in xorg.conf07:55
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afd_how would it be possible to change the display driver for totem? Something like it's possible with xine07:56
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Kyraldamo21, you don't07:56
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Kyralhell it screws up the NVidia driver07:56
TiMiDodamn wan't to get a Dvd drive so badly07:56
helmetheddi need a bunch of help with hoary on a few diff. areas07:56
damo21really?07:56
Kyralyah07:56
damo21k07:56
helmetheddyeah totem to start with07:57
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damo21anyone got a dvb card?07:57
helmetheddlet me take that back07:57
TiMiDooh freaking Mouse i hate it,07:57
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buchanIs the Ubuntu GTK theme and the likes  availble to download online anywhere?07:57
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helmetheddi downloaded ubuntu 5.04 is that the latest, or should i update07:57
TiMiDoyeah, that's the latest07:58
helmetheddty07:58
TiMiDobreezy is coming on OCTOBER07:58
vengeful_can you not just add it in add applications or package manager?07:58
BurkeI really like Hoary Live.07:58
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n00bsterqwestion: is there a way to play my win' games in Linux ? Fore Free ?07:58
BurkeI just can't figure how to get it to see my hda.07:58
Kyraln00bster, WINE, but its hit and miss07:58
buchann00bster: Cedega. Just roll your own.07:58
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KyralCedega+Point2Play is much more reliable, at the cost of 5 bucks a month07:59
larsrohdinHi, how do I enable x composite extensions?07:59
shebbreezy updates are breaking stuff ..yea wireless07:59
helmetheddi'm on a dell inspiron 2200 laptop, and i'm told i should search for graphics drivers. Where am i gonna find em?07:59
TiMiDou can get cedega \for free ;P07:59
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buchanKyral: I fail to see the usefulness of Point2Play.07:59
KyralTiMiDo, it doesn't support InstallShield, or so I have heard07:59
BurkeI'm about to install 5.04 on my spare 20gb drive. Any advice?07:59
TiMiDotruew07:59
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vengeful_add to xorg.conf08:00
vengeful_Section "Extensions"08:00
vengeful_Option "Composite" "Enabled"08:00
vengeful_EndSection08:00
vengeful_that should do it08:00
vengeful_i think08:00
n00bsterCedega is not Free !08:00
shebdhcp software is crashing wireless configurations08:00
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helmetheddwhere or how do i update my drivers for dell08:00
shebon breezy08:00
n00bster& about wine, i'll give it a go08:01
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n00bsterty..........08:01
helmetheddjust go to dell?08:01
vengeful_whatcha need to update helmethedd?08:01
Kyralsheb, Breezy is busted08:01
Kyralin devel08:01
larsrohdinvengeful_, anything I have to download? I have xcompmgr, but anything else?08:01
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KyralI'm gonna sound like a BOFH here, but you knew what you were doing when you installed it :P08:01
helmetheddwell i'm told i should update my graphics drivers vengeful08:01
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shebwhy ? it ran good for several days until the new freakin updates08:01
vengeful_larsohdin..i think its already in the latest release08:02
notactionSorry people, I asked this earlier, but I didn't know xchat has a limited buffer.. How do you get out of XFree86, and then how do you get back into it?08:02
yuachthmm, when i upgraded too breezy my keyboard layout stopped working, any clue how to solve it? i want swedish keyboard layout08:02
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vengeful_so should just add ..i think...never used it to be honest08:02
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Kyralsheb, I'm no MOTU so I don't know08:02
Kyraluse dhclient308:02
larsrohdinvengeful_, ok then I'll just restart X i'll  be back if I get problems.. thanks08:02
vengeful_which card you got helme?08:02
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shebso where is MOTU08:03
Kyralnotaction, drop to a VT (CTRL+ALT+F1)  login and do a sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop08:03
helmetheddvenge...i'm not really certain. its built into the laptop and i don't know how to access the info in linux08:03
Kyralthat will halt GDM (and X in the process)08:03
vengeful_which laptop?08:03
helmetheddinspiron 220008:03
Kyralto get back in just startx or sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start08:03
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vengeful_il check08:03
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helmetheddthanks pardner08:04
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notactionKyral, thanks. But could you tell me A) What VT stands for, B) how to parse that command? what does the etc, init.d, and gmd part mean? Are those folders or something?08:05
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helmetheddany one know how to get the palm desk top action working on ubuntu?08:05
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KyralVT == Virtual Desktop08:05
helmetheddi followed the instuctions to know avail08:05
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Kyralerr08:06
helmetheddi've only had ubuntu a day now so i'm in over my head08:06
notactionAll try it now...08:06
KyralVirtual Terminal08:06
gp_aaronwhere does the binary for imagemagick install to?08:06
boxerboy29vengsful_  try device manager08:06
notactionThat makes more sense08:06
Kyral/etc/init.d is a directory where devices live08:06
Kyralerr08:06
Kyralservices08:06
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Kyralgdm is the GNOME Display Manager (Your Login Screen when X Fires up when you boot)08:07
mouhezwhat firewall does 5.04 use and how do I open port 22?08:07
Kyraland stop and start tell it start and stop08:07
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Kyralmouhez, by default no firewall08:07
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gp_aaronmouhez: I don't think ubuntu has a firewall by default, are you running a router?08:07
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notactionKyral, for what I'm doing, it says something to the effect of that all XFree86 instances must be off. Is that going to take care of that?08:08
Kyralbecause no services run by default08:08
Kyralnotaction, yes08:08
mouhezI'm not doing anything, I just want to access my friend's computer08:08
mouhez:)08:08
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mouhezso he just has to give me a user/pass?08:08
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boxerboy29during install it asks you if you want to enable a firewall08:08
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gp_aaronmouhez: as long as he doesn't have a router running08:08
Kyralit does?08:08
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KyralSince when?08:08
mouhezhmm08:08
boxerboy29it does for me08:08
notactionIs there a font that closely resembles the Fixedsys of Windows?08:08
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mouheznmap says "22/tcp closed ssh", that means there is no firewall?08:09
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gp_aaronmouhez: routers block port 22 by default08:09
mouhezhe doesn't have a router08:09
boxerboy29where it lists what you want to allow  http ,ssh, so on and so forth08:09
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gp_aaronmouhez: then maybe he is running a firewall on his system08:09
Kyralboxerboy29, you mean Lokkit?08:09
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gp_aaronor doesn't have ssh installed or doesn't have it running08:09
boxerboy29i dont know what its called it doesnt say08:10
mouhezhmm okay08:10
vengeful_i think its the i915..same as inspiron 6000...why do you need to update?08:10
boxerboy29kyral: its on same install page that if you want to enable selinux08:10
notactionKyral, it looks like "etc" is an important directory in Linux. What does it do?08:11
Kyralwhich installer is this?08:11
mouhezhow do I enable ssh then? :)08:11
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Plebeuzi need to install ncurses in ubuntu08:11
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gp_aaronmouhez: sudo apt-get install ssh08:11
Kyralnotaction, /etc is VERY important08:11
mouhezaha, thanks08:11
boxerboy29both 5.04 adn 5.10 ask it as for if its anaconda or another again not real sure never looked08:11
Kyralthere is a reason you can't go mucking about in there without root08:11
P229mouhez: sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start08:12
gp_aaronmouhez: then /etc/initd/sshd start (if the script doesn't do it for you)08:12
mouhez:)08:12
atila_sendilhi all; anyone know a good and easy program to edit .iso files ?08:12
mouhezokay08:12
r0danyone here read TUX magazine?08:12
boxerboy29next time i have to install it ill look :(08:12
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Kyralyah08:12
notactionIs 'directory' an appropriate qualifier for what 'etc' is, or is it "not a directory"? wht does it stand for?08:12
Kyral'cause last time I installed Breezy Preview, I didn't see that at all08:12
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r0dKyral,  did you read the recent issue on how gnome is always changing its core design08:13
Kyralthen again I went with a standard thing08:13
Kyralr0d, that yah was to boxerboy2908:13
boxerboy29breezy has it that im sure about hoary i remember seeing it but its been awhile08:13
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Kyralnotaction, its a directory08:13
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Kyralbut a really important one!08:13
notactionLinux looks so much like scientology with all these scary abbreviations, that's why I've been put off of it for so long08:13
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notactionBut I want to give it a fair chance08:14
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Kyral /usr == User Programs08:14
r0dKyral,  right. I dont see what he means by that. gnome since i've been using has always had the same core functionality08:14
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gp_aaroncan apt tell you where a application is installed to?08:14
P229atila_sendil: winiso... yes, I know it's a windows program. unfortunately, there's no such program for linux (that I'm aware of)08:14
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Kyral /boot == Things that the system need to boot08:14
r0djust blew my mind...08:14
gp_aaroni really don't like apt:|08:14
stperearg! still no luck with this nvidia driver08:14
Kyral /bin == Binary Files08:14
Razor-Xgp_aaron: *gasp*08:14
gp_aaronheh08:14
atila_sendilP229, ty; does it work with wine ?08:15
r0dlinux 101 channel08:15
gp_aaronRazor-X: I've used better that is all08:15
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Razor-Xgp_aaron: in my experience, Gentoo portage is all that i've found that's better in some areas08:15
Kyralhttp://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html08:15
r0dRazor-X,  portage is awesome08:15
gp_aaronportage is alright, but compiling is slow...08:15
Kyralnotaction, read that08:15
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Kyralnot exactly the most newbie friendly thing08:16
r0dbut if u dont know what your doing, its a noob nightmare08:16
P229atila_sendil: don't know, there's a good chance it will, especially if you have a version of winiso that works in win95/9808:16
r0dapt-get is so much easier08:16
Razor-Xugghhh, why can't screen monitor for activity correctly08:16
notactionOK, will do. This /bin folder you speak of. Does that store C compilers only?08:16
Razor-Xr0d: meh08:16
gp_aaronpacman on the other hand, is a very fast, light, extensive, and easy to use binary package manager08:16
TachyonI get an error that a package can't be downloaded from a repository when I'm trying to install Bluefish through Synaptic.  Is there anything I can do to fix this, is it a problem with my repository lists?08:16
Razor-XI could use naim instead of pork for AIM, but pork is more full-featured08:16
atila_sendilP229, thank you; must try it immediately :-) see you all later :-) bye08:16
Razor-Xgp_aaron: hmmm, i've never used that08:16
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Kyralnotaction, I'm not sure08:16
Razor-Xgp_aaron: i'll give it a whirl08:16
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p0windahmorning girlos and boyos08:16
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gp_aaronRazor-X: Archlinux, and Rubix08:17
Kyralnotaction, I don't know the specifics of the filesystem08:17
KyralI just have a vague idea08:17
gp_aaronit is fully funcional in Arch and slightly crippled in Rubix08:17
Razor-Xgp_aaron: ahhh, I see08:17
notactionKyral, I'm bookmarking that page08:17
gp_aaronRazor-X: Just be warned that the arch installer isn't pretty08:17
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Razor-XIf I set screen to monitor a window for activity, why does it tell me there's activity when I switch out from that window08:18
P229notaction: /bin holds a lot of system programs08:18
Razor-Xgp_aaron: is it better than a Gentoo Stage 2?08:18
gp_aaronI don't know08:18
gp_aaronI never do my gentoo installs08:18
gp_aaron:P08:18
Razor-Xheh08:18
P229notaction: whereas /sbin holds superuser only system programs08:19
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r0dwhats better, firestarter or lokkit? as far as ease of use?08:19
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gp_aaronyou can get a arch install up and running in 15 minutes08:19
Razor-Xwhy not talk to the Ubuntu maintainers about Pacman?08:19
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Razor-Xgp_aaron: oh, no, then it's nothing like a Gentoo stage 208:19
Razor-X:P08:19
_jasonhi, does anyone know how to get streaming .asx files to work in Ubuntu?08:19
gp_aaronRazor-X: Ubuntu would have to completely revamped to use pacman08:19
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P229r0d: firestarter is real easy for what it does. never used lokkit08:19
notactionIs it true that all, or at least most, issues of linux come with a C, C++, and assembly compiler?08:19
notactionGnu C compiler or somesuch?08:20
Razor-Xgp_aaron: yeah, I guess08:20
Razor-Xnotaction: yeah08:20
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helmetheddi can't seem to get my palm pilot to sync up with ubuntu. Anyone use a palm?08:20
P229notaction: many distros do, yes, but ubuntu does not (by default... they're still available in the repos)08:21
gp_aaronhelmethedd: I did, it never did sync properly when I used arch08:21
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gp_aaron- arch + ubuntu08:21
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notactionP229,  How do I get it for Ubuntu?08:21
boxerboy29notaction: synaptic08:22
Razor-Xnotaction: sudo aptitude install build-essentials08:22
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gp_aaronwell I'm off to eat08:22
gp_aaronRazor-X: give arch a shot, http://archlinux.org/08:22
helmetheddwhat is arch?08:22
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gp_aaronI recommend using the install guide08:22
boxerboy29arch= linux distro08:22
vladuz976how can i create .zip files instead of .tar.gz or .gz files?08:22
cs_DKwhat is good about arch?08:22
notaction'aptitude'?08:22
gp_aaroncs_DK: Easy to use package management system08:23
TachyonI can't seem to connect to the Backports repository.  Am I out of date or something? :/08:23
helmetheddoh man this is harsh...so much to learn08:23
gp_aaronSimple Init system08:23
gp_aaroncs_DK: fast08:23
boxerboy29tachyon: the mirror max backports have been shut down08:23
cs_DKgp_aaron: faster than ubuntu?08:24
helmetheddi don't speak code and it seems to be required to use my computer now08:24
gp_aaroncs_DK: but it is also for advanced users08:24
P229notaction: System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager08:24
gp_aaroncs_DK: so much faster then ubuntu08:24
Gnucleardoes cd-juicer support mp3 encoding? if not, can someone suggest a gui-frntend that can rip audio cds and encode them to mp3?08:24
Tachyonboxerboy29: Are there other backport repositories?08:24
cs_DKgp_aaron: does it use gnome or kde?08:24
maximausGnuclear, with the correct plugins, yes. I prefer ripperX, fwiw.08:24
boxerboy29tachyon i dont use backports but yes i think i read that in it ill get site give me a few08:25
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P229Gnuclear: nothing in ubuntu supports mp3 by default (patent issues), you'll have to install the codecs, etc., manually08:25
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gp_aaroncs_DK: neither08:25
gp_aaronor both08:25
Razor-Xgp_aaron: I will, when I get the time08:25
gp_aaronwhich ever you'd like08:25
Razor-Xschool's been a total b**ch though08:25
cs_DKgp_aaron: ok, I'll take a look08:25
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maximausP229,  Manually? you mean just firing up synaptic and clicking a couple boxes? :P08:26
gp_aaroncs_DK: it installs a base system, then you install the xserver and the desktop environment of your choice08:26
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kbrooksHey!08:26
gp_aaronthat's what arch is about, choice08:26
cs_DKgp_aaron: but I can do that with debian also :-)08:26
gp_aaronye08:26
kbrooksI have a problem.08:26
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kbrooksI'm in cli, irssi08:26
P229maximaus: it's a chore, isn't it?08:27
TiMiDokbrooks, what problems?08:27
gp_aaronand that is the problem kbrooks?08:27
kbrooksand ...08:27
kbrookswell, smbclient -- where can i get it?08:27
boxerboy29tachyon: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6968108:27
TiMiDokbrooks, sudo apt-get install smbclient08:27
gp_aaroncs_DK: you cannot be afraid to edit config files and use the command line08:27
TiMiDo!Info smbclient08:27
ubotusmbclient: has nothing about Info08:27
kbrooksmy ubuntu cd is stratched08:27
kbrooks!info smbclient08:27
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ubotusmbclient: (a LanManager-like simple client for Unix), section net, is optional. Version: 3.0.10-1ubuntu3 (hoary), Packaged size: 2337 kB, Installed size: 5996 kB08:27
gp_aaronso?08:27
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kbrooksall over it08:28
Tachyonboxerboy29: Thanks.08:28
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kbrooks!info smbclient warty08:28
_jasonbah guess I have to boot windows to listen to .asx D:08:28
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gp_aaronkbrooks, don't use the ubuntu cd08:28
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boxerboy29tachyon: yw08:28
ubotusmbclient: (a LanManager-like simple client for Unix), section net, is optional. Version: 3.0.7-1ubuntu6 (warty), Packaged size: 2246 kB, Installed size: 5776 kB08:28
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Grevanyone using 3d accel driver for nvidia under Breezy here08:28
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cs_DKGrev: why?08:28
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gp_aaronwell i'm off08:29
gp_aaronbye all08:29
basvghmm, I just did a fresh hoary install on my laptop... went smoothly (as expected). Only the w32codecs package seems to be gone... searching for it in synaptic. What happened to it..?08:29
sktrdiefreaking fever08:29
sas171hi, how to setup my monitor? I mean, is there some easier way as xorgconf in Ubuntu?08:29
sktrdiehome all day08:29
kbrooksgp_aaron: ok08:29
kbrooksaptituding now08:30
TiMiDosas171, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:30
GrevI'm trying to run my card with 3D nvidia driver (installed/ran nvidia-glx-config enable), but my machine does not seem to have the nvidia.o module08:30
Ne754sas171: did you try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg yet?08:30
gp_aaronkbrooks just comment the cd out of the /etc/apt/sources.list file08:30
TiMiDosas171,   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:30
Razor-Xbasvg: do you have the correct repos added in?08:30
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sas171thank you I'll try it now08:30
TiMiDonp08:30
shebso nobody is really making any comments on breezy or i just missed it ll08:31
basvgRazor-X: afaik yes, I copied the /etc/apt/sources.list from my work-box ..08:31
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Razor-Xbasvg: hmmm....08:31
larsrohdinI cant get my panel transparent in xfce4, can someone help me? I have enabled composite extensions in xorg.conf, and I have created a file called transparency in my xfce folder but still it won't work...08:31
Razor-Xbasvg: if this was mplayer, you could just download the codecs from elsewhere, i'm not sure how it works in other media players08:31
TiMiDolarsrohdin, sudo apt-get install xfce408:31
p0windahsheb: what kinda comments you looking for ?08:31
damo21larsrohdin i bet u use ati card?08:31
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larsrohdinTiMiDo, thats the one I mean08:32
p0windahsheb: I've got it installed on a desktop and a tablet pc here without any problems..08:32
basvgRazor-X: Yeah I might just do that.. need to figure out how to get totem to play my dvd :)08:32
larsrohdindamo21, no 6800gt with latest drivers08:32
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damo21lucky u.... i cant get any transparency with radeon 9800pro08:32
shebbout it current state of affairs in regards to it breaking my freakin wireless configurations after I install the upgrades08:32
notactionheh..hey, is there a 'pi' button on the calculator that comes with ubuntu? Hm, moreover, is there a software package thing that has a really nice calculator that you can enter long expressions into?08:32
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damo21preview breezy08:32
p0windahsheb: binary drivers ? isnt that in release notes or something..08:33
atila_sendilP229, hi again; unfortunately winiso did not go with wine; so any cd burning software to make a bootable cd ?08:33
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notactionUm...what's emacs?08:33
Hikaru79Can Windows be an NFS client?08:33
larsrohdinnotaction, a good editor08:33
damo21kbrooks... just wait till 13th08:33
mjrHikaru79, there are NFS clients for Windows, but you'd probably be better off with Samba at the server end08:33
notactionText editor?08:33
P229atila_sendil: you want to burn an ISO to CD?08:33
kbrooksdamo21: i know, thats why i said "yet to"08:33
Ne754notaction: an editor that can be compared to vi (ie> vi vs emacs debate)08:33
shebwhere are the rel.notes08:33
mjralso, I'm not sure if there are beer-free NFS clients for Windows08:33
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larsrohdinnotaction, whatever editor... text, code etc.08:33
Hikaru79mjr, I would, but Samba is such a pain to configure :(08:33
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larsrohdinnotaction, I use it to write c++08:34
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Ne754sas171 > any luck on the reconfig?08:34
atila_sendilP229, well I have the iso but I guess with fileroller I can get the files inside; or just mount it and copy. but I want to add folders and make a bootable CD :-)08:34
kbrookslarsrohdin: ew c++08:34
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P229notaction: why don't you try the LiveCD?08:34
larsrohdinkbrooks, huh?08:34
discipleofyeshuais breezy a stable operating system?08:34
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sas171Ne754: i'm doing it now, one second08:34
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kbrooksdiscipleofyeshua: wait until the 13th08:35
notactionI've got it installed on a virtual machine, I think it's better this way.08:35
scribblesanyone got a sample sources.list for 5.10?08:35
larsrohdinkbrooks, ew?08:35
Ne754sas171: ok08:35
p0windahdiscipleofyeshua: the preview still have issues that need to be ironed out08:35
P229atila_sendil: oh... if you're new to linux, I'd just use windows and winiso. there's a way to do what you want to do, but it's a major PITA08:35
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kbrooksscribbles: sed -i -e 's/hoary/breezy/g' /etc/apt/sources.list08:36
scribblesI can't seem to get apt-get to work in 5.1008:36
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scribbleswhats that do brooks?08:36
Coder|AwayHi all, I've got a seemingly simple question: How can I get ubuntu to remember my DNS server IPs instead of querying the router for them?08:36
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Razor-Xnotaction: in Octave or Maxima (which are downloadable, and more powerful) there should be pi included08:36
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kbrooksscribbles: do you have hoary installed?08:36
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scribblesno08:36
atila_sendilP229, so any recommendations to to start reading :-) like nero had the option in windows or so ?08:36
scribblespreview 5.1008:36
larsrohdinso, any ideas on my transparetn panel?08:37
kbrooksscribbles: oh, sorry08:37
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p0windahcoder: have a look in /etc/resolv.conf08:37
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atila_sendiland anybody know a program to make a bootable CD with the boot part I provide ?08:37
Shin_Goukihow do i mount, access a USB stick from bash?08:37
boxerboy29apt-get works out of box on breezy should anyway08:37
shebat first i thought it was just the dhcp* stuff ..unchecked those in the update  ..there are other waaaay serious ills08:37
P229atila_sendil: basically, what you would have to do is extract the boot track from the iso, extract all the files, add your files, then rebuild the iso08:37
scribblesErr http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net breezy-extras/restricted Packages08:37
scribbles  404 Not Found08:37
Coderp0windah: Ok, thanks. I'll take a look.08:37
sas171Ne754: I have a PS/2 mouse what dev should I choose?08:37
P229atila_sendil: with cdrecord, probably08:37
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kbrooksscribbles: comment that out08:37
Hendricwhat is the most minimal install option for breezy? aside from the SERVER option?08:37
kbrooksin sources.list08:37
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boxerboy29scribbles: mirrormax backports have been shut down08:37
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Ne754sas171 > should be the /dev/input/mice (the default)08:37
scribblesoh okay08:37
atila_sendilP229, exactly what I want to do; I'll start reading cdrecord ty :-)08:37
P229atila_sendil: nero can burn a bootable iso08:37
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sas171Ne754: ok, thx08:38
P229atila_sendil: have fun :)08:38
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hussamI'm trying to clean up my kubuntu system. I found those packages that are not dependancies of other package08:38
hussamare these packages safe to remove? texinfo texi2html python2.4-numarray lapack308:38
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shinuis abc bittorrent client in the repos?08:38
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kbrookshussam: check them to see if they rely on any other packages08:39
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hussamkbrooks: no installed packages rely on them.08:39
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P229shinu: not for 5.1008:40
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atila_sendilhussam : how did you find those packages ?08:40
kbrookshussam: its safe then08:40
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p0windahhussam: apt-cache show texinfo; then if its not something you need, apt-get remove --purge texinfo08:40
shinuP229: 5.04?08:40
hussamatila_sendil: browsing thourgh synaptic08:40
P229shinu: don't know08:40
atila_sendilhussam ty; thought there was a way to list them :-)08:40
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kbrooksSeveas: hi08:41
Hendricwhat is the most minimal install option for breezy?08:41
brosioan howto to print on ubuntu ?08:41
P229Hendric: "server," I think08:41
Seveashi Kyle08:41
boxerboy29hendric: server08:41
notactionOK. If I get GCC and stuff like that, the libraries, headers, etc, all come with it?08:41
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kbrooksSeveas: what's up?08:41
p0windahSeveas: your repos. came through for me. been playing kbattleship with the mrs using your packages nx stuff. cheers08:41
p0windahpackaged, rather08:41
Hendricaside from server.. like making it a plain client...08:42
CarlFKany recomendations on a USB based tv tuner?08:42
boxerboy29seveas: whats the chance of adding a link for the closing of mirrormax backports to the topic?08:42
kbrooksHendric: please read the description of server -- it is NOT what you think it is08:42
jdubHendric: the 'server' install is just a core system, no desktop, no servers, etc.08:42
hussamatila_sendil: there is deporphan but it won't list much08:42
Seveasboxerboy29, nil08:43
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boxerboy29ok just checking08:43
BiSK-8hello08:43
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Seveaskbrooks, busy rewriting my repo scripts :)08:43
squid0does anyone know how to get midi working on ubuntu?08:43
atila_sendilhussam, ty :-)08:43
BiSK-8is there any software that i can get through atp-get 2 overclock my pc?08:43
kbrooksI'm rebooting into a GUI now ;)08:43
Hendricah... sounds great.. need to do it on an old P1 200MHZ pc ehehe08:43
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squid0yes? no? midi? tea, anyone?08:44
kbrooksSeveas: will Breezy include GNOME 2.12?08:44
Seveasit already does08:45
kbrooksCool.08:45
Seveassince 2.12 has been released08:45
kbrooksgrrr.08:45
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atila_sendilHendric, in fact I am right now installing one 64MB laptop now :-)08:46
scribblesE: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate08:46
scribbles <---- what should I use in 5.10, I got that from the 5.04 starter guide08:46
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Hendricin breezy... the menu editor doesn't include application added menus.. how do i edit them?08:46
Hikaru79Is there away to make a SAMBA share visible only to one certain IP address in the LAN?08:46
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squid0i'm a bit new to this... can you read me at all?08:47
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Hikaru79squid, we can read ya.08:47
squid0great. thanks, Hikaru08:47
Hikaru79=)08:47
Hikaru79What's the problem?08:47
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notactionMaybe a stupid question here, but humour me. Does linux use drive letters?08:48
squid0i don't know how to get midi to work on ubuntu08:48
darklingnotaction: No.08:48
Plebeuzanyone can help me? /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lssl08:48
Hikaru79notaction, not in the sense that windows does.08:48
Hikaru79Ah, midi.08:48
Hikaru79squid0, I'll get you a link to a guide.08:48
squid0yes? <perks up ears>08:48
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basvghmmm, now it seems that mplayer at least *sees* my dvd... wish I could play it with totem08:48
damo21notaction: linux uses device nodes instead..  /dev/hda1 = c:08:48
MikkelKDaaaaamn it takes long time to update to Colony5... ZZZZzzzz...08:48
Hikaru79squid0, here you go: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=58859&highlight=midi08:48
Hikaru79Those steps right there should get you up and running :) They did for me.08:49
squid0great. thanks, hikaru. i'll have a look now08:49
Hikaru79^_^ Kay. If something's not working, ask here.08:49
notactionAh, it becomes a little clearer now08:49
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damo21does anyone know if there is a package similar to Cakewalk 8 for linux?08:49
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damo21i'd like to do midi synthesis on ubuntu08:50
atila_sendildamo21, I got Rosegarden4 but could not yet manage to use it :-(08:51
squid0okay, will do08:52
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squid0Hikaru, how big are pmidi and timidity? i'm on a capped line...08:53
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kbrooksany ideas?08:53
Hikaru79squid0, they're fairly small.08:53
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squid0like, less than 4-5M?08:53
kbrooksso...........08:53
Hikaru79I'm not on Ubuntu right now, so I can't give you exact sizes, but probably under 10 mb08:53
kbrooks*reboots*08:53
Hendricin breezy... the menu editor doesn't include application added menus.. how do i edit them?08:54
Hikaru79kborokos, what's the problem?08:54
squid0ok. thanks08:54
kbrooksbbl08:54
P229squid0: probably pretty small. and how'd you get stuck with a capped line?08:54
Hikaru79squid0, if you use Synaptic, it'll tell you the sizes before you download.08:54
squid0Hikaru, good idea. was about to do so08:54
P229squid0: pmidi is about 20 K08:54
squid0p229: by being in the country called South Africa ;)08:54
delireHikaru79: No go? ;)08:55
P229squid0: ah08:55
squid0p229: gr8. thanks08:55
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squid0it's a beautiful place, but some things... ah... you know... we're a bit behind08:55
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Hikaru79delire, yes! =D08:55
Hikaru79delire, are you a Go player too? ^^08:55
Daveyshould the x86 live cd work on an athlon64 machine? I understood they were 32bit compatible08:56
delireHikaru79: sure ;)08:56
Hikaru79delire, cool :D How strong?08:56
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AgrajagDavey: yes, it will08:56
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DaveyAgrajag, and if it doesn't boot on my laptop, what then? :)08:56
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delireHikaru79: ahh not so strong. the series got me back into it actually ;)08:56
AgrajagBett than the 64-bit livecd in my experience08:56
delireHikaru79: i might start looking for  club soon.08:56
DaveyAgrajag, it crashes trying at the Gnome loading screen08:56
Hikaru79delire, I see. What's "not so strong" though? Are you SDK yet?08:56
AgrajagThen you should find out why it's not booting.08:56
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AgrajagNo clue, I don't do laptops.08:57
delireHikaru79: i haven't graded myself. casual player.08:57
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P229Davey: why wouldn't it boot on your laptop?08:57
Hikaru79delire, I see. Want a game?08:57
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P229oh08:57
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delireHikaru79: but a great series. really enjoyed the seasons i have seen.08:57
kbrooksNow to upgrade to hoary.08:57
Hikaru79Indeed it is :)08:58
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delireHikaru79: hehe not right now, maybe some other time ;)08:58
Hikaru79Kay ^_^08:58
delireHikaru79: work to do!08:58
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shawnzagh08:59
Hikaru79delire, yeah me too :( I just don't do it =/08:59
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shawnzsilly ubuntu maintainers08:59
shawnzwhy is the kernel compiled with gcc-3 :/08:59
delireHikaru79: ;)08:59
squid0Hikaru or p229, apt-get says timidity is an 'invalid operation'. i assume that means it's not found in my repositories? or what?08:59
kbrooksshawnz, do you want everything to be compiled with gcc 4 ?!?08:59
Hikaru79squid0, can you paste the entire output?09:00
kbrookssquid0, apt-get timidy09:00
kbrooksnot09:00
kbrookssquid0, apt-get install timidy09:00
Hikaru79'sudo apt-get install timidity'09:00
squid0urgh, i forgot to put 'install'09:00
squid0thanks, guys :)09:00
shawnzkbrooks, well it would help, since thats the gcc i have installed atm.09:00
Hikaru79Anyone here know there way well with Samba09:00
Hikaru79?09:00
Hikaru79*their09:00
kbrooksHikaru79, just ask09:00
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Hikaru79Is there away to make a SAMBA share visible only to one certain IP address in the LAN?09:00
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Tobacan anyone suggest an svg viewer for linux?09:01
Hikaru79So, like, a share should only be visible to 192.168.1.15 for example.09:01
basvghmm ok , can anyone help met get this dvd stuff to work? I followed the restrictedformats howto, installed totem-xine, the w32codecs etcetera.. but it just won't work. When I put the dvd in the drive I only get a nautifuls window asking if I want to burn anything to the dvd..09:01
Hikaru79And unaccessible AND invisible to any other.09:01
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squid0gotta love apt! :)09:01
sas171I reconfgured my monitor to 1024x768@75hz, but he (monitor) did 1024x768@85 at SuSE. How can I set it at Ubuntu?09:01
ratl3hi, my wireless card crashes the computer now in recent updates to breezy09:02
kbrookssquid0, apt is magical ;)09:02
Hikaru79squid0, yup =)09:02
ratl3should i file a bug?09:02
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Hikaru79rat13, it's breezy =/ It'll probably be fixed pretty soon.09:02
cs_DKratl3: yes09:02
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Strogkbrooks: I didn't realize you were here too. I thought I was looking at #archlinux for a second when you were talking. ;-)09:03
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ratl3cs_DK, what should i file in my bug?09:03
kbrooksStrog: heh.09:03
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kbrooksStrog, i switched back from arch09:03
cs_DKif you do not know what package causes the bug choose UNKNOWN09:03
kbrooksstrog: ubuntu arch ubuntu09:03
ratl3it's a prism 2 card09:04
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Strogkbrooks: Arch on the x86 laptop but ubuntu on the powerbook for me09:04
ratl3ok, i'll just try this out09:04
kbrooksStrog: ppc?09:04
ratl3what's the command that shows the kernel you're running?09:04
Strogyep09:04
kbrooksCool.09:04
apsynchi, this morning, when I woke up, windows was not in my bootloader list anymore , how can I add it manually?09:04
cs_DKratl3: 'uname -a'09:04
ratl3thanks09:04
cs_DKratl3: remember to search for duplicates first :-)09:05
ratl3already have09:05
kbrooksShould I pick smart upgrade?09:05
squid0fellows, how big is the Unison soundfont? roughly>?09:05
kbrookssquid0, are you THAT paranoid about this connection cap?09:06
squid0yes! :)09:06
basvghmmm well gxine seems to do the trick, but it is slow :(09:06
squid0i share the line with a couple other people, and 2 months ago we were capped halfway through the month. = no internet access for 2 weeks09:06
squid0it's 3 gig per month09:07
Hikaru79Ouch, squid0 :'(09:07
kbrookssquid0, who capped you?09:07
squid0you're telling me09:07
Hikaru79squid0, the unison soundfont is about 23 MB. I downloaded it the other day.09:07
squid0some guy  called 'ISP' ;)09:07
apsyncthis morning, when I woke up, windows was not in my bootloader list anymore , how can I add it manually in the list again?09:07
kbrooksHikaru79, thats massive09:07
squid0ok, thanks; that's not too bad09:07
Hikaru79kbrooks, I didn't create it =/09:07
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squid0kbrooks, well, it's relative, i suppose...09:08
kbrooksi need to code something up -- a bootup manager for the hell of it09:08
squid0kbrooks: have fun09:08
kbrooksbut first, hoary. ;)09:08
imcAarg. Yesterday someone graciously gave me the command to see what's running on a given tcp port, like 25. Like a ps for ports. Anyone know it?09:08
Hendricsquid0: is ubuntu really happening in your place?09:08
squid0Hendric: meaning, South Africa?09:08
Hendricyeah :)09:09
imcbasically the question is: how can I list what's listening or bound to :25??09:09
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cs_DKnetstat09:09
Seveasimc, sudo netstat -tlnp09:09
imcno that shows everything.09:09
imcah09:09
imcthanks will try that09:09
squid0ah. well, i actually don't know about the wider community. I'm having loads of fun on it, and i know this developer forum/group that is using it AFAIK.09:09
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Strogapsync: http://ubuntuguide.org/#addwindowsentrygrubmenu09:10
KJoNI need help... Geez, I have 4 fat32 partitions, of the same size, but I would like to identify them without running "fdisk -l". Is there a way to label them?09:10
apsyncthanks09:10
Hendricsquid0: Ah ok :009:11
kbrooksthats huge -- 854 packages, 15 removed09:11
kbrooksand i got capped too. :(09:11
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squid0kbrooks: :(09:12
squid0Hendric: i'm still searching for the Ubuntu SA site for you. haven't found it.09:13
squid0but Google ubuntu linux south africa09:13
imcOkay, this isn't working. I'm getting "Bind: Cannot assign requested address" for the fairly straightforward ssh -c blowfish -L 143:localhost:143 -L 25:localhost:25 user server -f -N        I am  able to log in (it asks for and accepts password) then doesn't bind. Anyone know what I am doing wrong?09:13
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Krnekihay09:13
squid0and anyway, 'Ubuntu', like Mark Shuttleworh, is South African!09:13
Krnekihow do i set mail server on ubuntu09:13
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kbrooksokay09:13
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squid0so it's with pride that we see the world get excited about some SA linux :)09:14
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kbrooksjust opened a new terminal, ran apt-get upgrade, said y, typed ctrl+z, bg, and ctrl+d09:14
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imcsquid0 and lemme tell you, I'm VERY excited about Ubuntu.09:14
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SeveasThe word Ubuntu is south african. Ubuntu/Canonical are European :)09:15
kbrooksi need to work on the wiki and see if there is any documentation for me to do09:15
squid0Seveas: fair enough. but Shuttleworth is definitely a SAn09:15
lllmanulllHi there, seems that apt-get build-dep fails on any package I try... Any idea what might cause that ?09:15
squid0Hendric: http://ubuntu.sun.ac.za/wiki/index.php/Main_Page09:15
imcAnyone on my port forwarding woes ?09:15
squid0imc: great!09:16
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kbrooksI need some X help.09:17
Hendricsquid0: some silly slackers defined ubuntu differently... lol09:17
squid0Hendric: yes?09:17
squid0what, on that site?09:17
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kbrooksI am using ... X with no mouse, and have pressed shift+numlock. When I move the cursor (numpad number keys), it does not move as fast as gdm did.09:17
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kbrooksAny ideas?09:18
squid0well... why no mouse?09:18
Hendricsquid0: found it on a forum.. "ubuntu" is an ancient african word meanng, "i can't configure slackware".09:18
kbrookssquid0, That isn't really important.09:18
squid0lol that's a good one09:18
squid0ok09:18
Krnekiany specialist for mail server please help09:19
kbrooksGet to the point please. ;)09:19
BurkeHendric, LOL.09:19
squid0umm... all i can give you is an educated estimate.09:19
Hendricsilly slackers...09:19
kbrookssquid0, go on09:19
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kbrookssquid0, well?09:20
squid0kbrooks: i have very little experience with x, i'm sorry to disappoint you. I'm just offering you my thinking power... i'll do what i can.09:20
squid0kbrooks: can you describe what the problem is?09:20
kbrookssquid0, I will try anything to make the cursor be faster.09:20
adjacentHendric: thats hilarious actually =)09:21
kbrookssquid0, I already did.09:21
squid0right.09:21
squid0umm... maybe configure your keyboard, for a faster repeat rate on a depressed key?09:21
kbrooksAnd how do I do that?09:22
squid0are you using ubuntu?09:22
kbrooksYes.09:22
squid0ok. System -> Preferences -> Keyboard09:22
squid0Keyboard tab; play with the sliders09:23
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Hendriccan be... "ubuntu" is an ancient african word meaning, "why suffer with slackware?"09:23
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squid0Hendric: but that *is* what it means! ;)09:23
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Hendrichihi09:23
NeverDreamdoes Breezy come with ndiswrapper?09:23
squid0kbrooks: any joy?09:24
HappyFoolNeverDream: maybe packages.ubuntu.com will tell you09:24
kbrookssquid0, Nope, a google search i tried ages ago..erm, got me zero revelant results09:24
NeverDreamHappyFool: thanks :)09:24
squid0kbrooks: did you try what I said?09:25
Hendricsquid0: oh, doe the website http://www.sun.ac.za/ using the african language?09:25
ryufreak!info ati09:25
ryufreak!ati09:25
ubotuit has been said that ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx09:25
kbrookssquid0, Yes.09:25
occyWhat is Colony 5?09:25
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squid0Hendric: no, but it is based on a South African university campus (Stellenbosch), and is just to show you some picture of SAns using ubuntu09:26
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squid0kbrooks: :(09:26
HappyFooloccy: a preview release of breezy, i think09:26
occyahh09:27
occySo it's not Breezy final?09:27
HappyFoolno; that will be released october 13, or thereabouts09:27
cs_DKColony 5 is built after Breezy Preview, its newer09:27
occytopic says it's out, but official release will be october 1309:27
occyahh09:27
occyokies, sorry, just confusing for my wee tiny brain09:27
occycome on October 13th!!!09:28
delireHendric: ;)09:28
twystedhey squid0 having problems again?09:28
Hendricdelire: yaps?09:28
occycan't wait to get the new Gnome 2.1209:28
cs_DKtoo bad that Breezy freezes my mouse09:29
delire<Hendric> can be... "ubuntu" is an ancient african word meaning, "why suffer with slackware?"09:29
cs_DKbecause of the new kernel09:29
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kbrooksDoes ubuntu have builtin quota ... handling?09:29
squid0hey twysted. not really problems, i've been helped well09:29
twystedcool :)09:29
La_PaRCaHey guys, can anyone paste the sources.list that comes default with breezy?09:29
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Hendricdelire: revised it for some silly slackers, lol :D09:30
delireHendric: ;)09:30
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squid0it is. what a great resource! help and be helped (or try )09:30
deliresquid0: there's faith for humanity yet... ;)09:31
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squid0delire: well, i like to think so :)09:31
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danwsbHi, I'm having trouble with remote printing to CUPS on an ubuntu box. My cupsd.conf was working properly until this morning. Now I just get errors from pam_authenticate indicating an authentication failure.09:31
deliresquid0: have you seen #infinite-wealth ?09:31
delirealso a great channel. plenty of help in there.09:31
squid0delire: no, what's it about09:31
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n00bsteri'm looking for a system restore utilitie, similar to that one in win (restore)09:32
esaci installed w32codecs but there seems to be some .wmv files that still don't play, any ideas ?09:32
kbrooksn00bster, backups are system restore09:32
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twystedn00bster, backups, there is some software out there but it costs alot of money and isnt ment for home use :)09:33
n00bstercan you expand on that?09:33
ompaulrandom sig 1109:33
esac^^ those files claim they are asf09:33
squid0delire: my, that channel's too busy for me09:33
Paradoxxhow stable is breez atm09:33
twystedso its just easyer to make manual backups of your files to cd or dvd09:33
Hueywhere are the startup scripts stored for certain sessions when a user logs in via gdm?09:33
kbrooksParadoxx, not stable. wait.09:33
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twystedParadoxx, its still in testing09:34
n00bsteri see, so is there en ekwivilent software to "Norton Ghost"09:34
Hueyand is there a way for a user to change these settings without root access?09:34
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deliresquid0: ;)09:34
Paradoxxhow stable is breezy atm?09:34
FrdPrefctworks great for me09:34
twystedits not stable paradoxx09:34
funkyHatfor me - stable as a tree09:34
deliren00bster: i use system-imager09:34
twystedits still in testing09:34
twystedso quit asking, just wait09:35
esacParadoxx: you could get lucky like me and its very stable, but others have a few issues09:35
funkyHatbut i've tweaked a lot09:35
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Hendricn00bster: better use the win version on a bootable diskette.. works with linux as well09:35
n00bsteri see.. i wonder it nortoon ghost works on ext3 partitions09:35
funkyHatit's not worth upgrading unless you know enough, or don't mind it being broken09:35
esacthat's true, ive tweaked a lot too. running a custom kernel to prevent it from freezing on reboot09:35
ompaulParadoxx, I am having issues - if you can't take any pain wait until 13th October09:35
funkyHat(for me it was a bit of both ;))09:35
Paradoxxtwysted:  i understand its still in testing...jeez, but the nature of my question recognises that, and asks how useable it is..09:35
ompaulParadoxx, if you can't take risk wait09:35
n00bsterwhat windows vertion ?09:35
Paradoxxtwysted: particularly, since they now have it on there site as a pre-release...09:36
n00bsternorton ghost works on linux ?09:36
ionrockParadoxx, I think you question makes sense but without knowing what you are using it for makes it hard to answer09:36
Hendricn00bster: the old one... 7 i think09:36
ompaulParadoxx, which indicates not release09:36
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deliren00bster: but it's a client server setup. there are many backup/restore utilities. just 'apt-cache search backup restore' and 'apt-cache show <packagename>' to read about each.09:36
n00bstermm... grate !! i got it :}09:36
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Hendricn00bster: you boot on a dos format floppy and ghost from there.09:37
Paradoxxompaul: you can get a prerelease of a music cd, and that just means you get it b4, its set release date..09:37
twystedParadoxx this isnt like a cd09:37
twystedits still being developed09:37
Hendricn00bster: only the cloned drive won't boot and shows up "GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB"09:37
n00bsteryah, like i do in win09:37
Paradoxx*sigh*, its an anology..09:37
ionrockParadoxx, I would assume you plan on using it for general desktop tasks on a desktop machine. I had been using it on laptop and had few problems. but I also didn't mind it breaking and reinstalling09:37
ompaulParadoxx, you get prerelease software it aint ready for the general public there are tasks to be done09:37
n00bsterwhat do you mean ?09:37
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Hendricn00bster: so better boot on your ubuntu CD, type: rescue then grub-intsall /dev/hda to fix it09:38
Daveywhy the hell are the ndiswrappers not included on the damn LiveCD? :/09:38
ionrockompaul, one could argue that folks in irc aren't really general public users ;)09:38
Hendric*grub-install09:38
ompaulParadoxx, _and_ I said if you can take a little pain go for it- if you can't don't as for what level of pain that depends on your luck09:38
Paradoxxthe concept can go eitherway, i'm just used to that type of s/w being called alph or beta builds...09:38
squid0the Union soundfont takes ages. i think the server is clogged. any alternatives, perhaps?09:39
twystedParadoxx, its a beta then ;)09:39
n00bsterHendric, i lost you there about GRUB.. can you recap?09:39
Trash[sleep] paradoxx: you've clearly never been on a development team09:39
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ompaulionrock, being on irc does not indicate clue - sure, I'm, here :)09:39
Paradoxxyea, its not for me, and friend of mine gonna try linux, and he asked which version he should get, as both links are there, i was surprised to see they have it there as a prerelease, cause i know its still undertesting..09:39
n00bsteryou ware saing that i can use en older dos based ghoste?09:39
twystedparadoxx just get the official release your friend will be happy with it :)09:40
Trashcansoftware that isn't marked as 'stable' probably isn't09:40
Paradoxxthats  what i told him09:40
ompaulParadoxx, here is what you do give them 5.04 hoary and then they can learn all about distupgrade on the day09:40
Trashcanis this discussion over breezy/hedgehog?09:40
Paradoxxthen  u figured i'd just pop over here, and ask how the devewas going..09:40
Paradoxxdev was*09:41
Hendricn00bster: when you ghost a linux drive (using any ghost version that supports linux partitions), the cloned drives boot loader is messed up. so you need to rescue it, inorder to fix the boot error on the new cloned drive.09:41
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bartphi09:41
TrashcanI'm not speaking for the devs, but afaik breezy is mostly small bugs and incompatibilities at this point09:41
Trashcanhey bart09:41
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ompaulwhat are the properties of the logon screen setup program?09:41
kbrooks"The emulated movement is *very* slow, but you can increase its speed considerably by pressing any other key while moving. "09:41
bartphi Trashcan09:42
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Paradoxxi haven't had time to test brezy myself, so i wasn't sure where it was, and thus my question about how stable it was..09:42
Trashcanahh well that's a valid question09:42
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n00bsterand i do that from ubuntu CD ?09:42
Mazrimhi all09:42
twystedn00bster, yes09:42
MazrimI have a problem09:42
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ParadoxxMazrim: just ask :P09:42
TrashcanAssuming he doesn't know his way around a linux box too well, he probably doens't want to be tracking down problems when his network card doesn't work, etc.09:42
kbrooksgrrr.09:42
n00bsterok, i undertand :}09:42
Hendricn00bster: yes you rescue from the ubuntu CD.09:42
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n00bsterok, i undertand :}09:43
ParadoxxTrashcan: yep yep..09:43
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Trashcanbut to answer your question, breezy is fairly complete functionality wise09:43
ray4jcDoes the Default Ubuntu Partitioning work?09:43
thrice`where is w32codecs residing these days ?09:43
TrashcanI havn't noticed any real problems as of yet09:44
n00bsterif we'r talking about GRUB, i want to disable the 8 second ttl screen, how can i do it?09:44
funkyHat!restrictedformats09:44
ubotumethinks restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'09:44
funkyHatthrice`, ^there09:44
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ray4jcIt has no boot partition,09:44
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thrice`funkyHat, ah, ok; I noticed the origial mirror was removed09:44
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MazrimParadoxx: I have just updated to Breezy, and I have 1 update that won't work, linuximagesomthing09:45
funkyHati don't know, i got it from backports and my policy was disable backports immediately after installing from it09:45
funkyHatand now i'm on breezy, so no backports09:45
n00bsterif we'r talking about GRUB, i want to disable the 8 second limitationm to chuse a system (dual boot)09:45
Mazrimit throws an error about ndiswrapper09:45
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Mazrimand not being able to be overwritten09:45
funkyHatn00bster, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and change the wait to... um... possibly -109:46
funkyHatit will probably tell you what to change it to09:46
ompaulfunkyHat,  there can't be any until dapper gets under development09:46
funkyHati'm not bothered ompaul :)09:46
ompaulfunkyHat,  just an explaination, the backports for hoary are from breezy09:47
funkyHatno backports isn't an issue09:47
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funkyHatyeah :)09:47
n00bsterok, tty, i'll tray it.09:47
n00bsterty*09:47
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tehwizardheya, anyone had luck doing apt-get dist-upgrade to switch to breezy?09:48
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ParadoxxMazrim: you should probably try a apt-get dis-upgrade09:48
Paradoxxand see if that fixes the issues09:48
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Paradoxxalso, as stated awhile ago, you should also disable backports if you have it enabled...09:48
funkyHattehwizard, yes. i'm generally a very lucky person though, i wouldn't recommend it ;)09:49
funkyHatuntil breezy is released09:49
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funkyHatc'mon, it's 2 weeks, just wait :P09:49
SeveasBut it's so much fun :)09:49
tehwizardlol right on... well, I did it, and I've got a few problems... surprise :-P09:49
funkyHathehehehe09:49
tehwizardwhat? wait? what's that??09:50
funkyHati only got problems with some of the new packages (like beagle)09:50
rukuarticanyone know how to edit your MAC address?09:50
delirerukuartic: for a wifi device?09:50
n00bsteris it that line on GRUB "timeout10"09:51
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grgcsmchow do i log in as root?09:51
Trashcansudo -i09:51
Trashcan!root09:51
ubotufrom memory, root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo09:51
grgcsmchow do i install gnome files?09:52
grgcsmcgnome-sudoku09:52
Trashcanwho asked abotu the mac addr09:52
Mazrimdis-upgrade - Invalid OPeration dis upgrade09:52
Trashcan/etc/init.d/networking stop09:52
rukuarticdelire: exactly. why bother encryptiong when you can just run selective MAC?09:52
Trashcanifconfig etho0 hw ether xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx09:52
Trashcan/etc/init.d/networking start09:52
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delirejust use ifconfig rukuartic09:52
tehwizardI need to compile custom kernel modules for my wireless, and for whatever reason it's saying /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build: No such file or directory.09:52
MikkelKI really like the graphical boot sequence Fedora has. Is there a way to get something similar for Ubuntu?09:52
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delirerukuartic: set it up per session in /etc/network/interfaces09:53
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rukuarticdelire: Ah, so ipconfig is much better than the windows version...09:53
tehwizardI've tried reinstalling linux-kernel-headers and stuff, but not working09:53
tehwizardanyone got a suggestion?09:53
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Trashcanyeah rukuartic09:53
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Trashcanifconfig is actually useful now09:53
delirerukuartic: sorry, set it up per session or permanently in /etc/network/interfaces.09:53
Trashcan(note it's ifconfig, not ipconfig)09:53
rukuarticAwesome09:53
rukuartich/u brb...09:53
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rukuarticoh, thanks Trashcan09:53
twysted!bootsplash09:53
delirerukuartic: ifconfig is powerfull, iwconfig also.09:53
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, twysted09:53
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funkyHattwysted, what do you want to know about the splash screen?09:54
funkyHat!usplash09:54
ubotusomebody said usplash was in Breezy: sudo apt-get install usplash, for more information see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashDiscuss09:54
Trashcangrahpic boot09:54
Trashcangraphic*09:54
twystedtrying to point MikkelK in the right direction09:54
cs_DK!usplash09:54
funkyHatcs_DK, ^09:54
MikkelK:O09:54
n00bsteris the GRUB menu.lst line that i need to edit is  "timeout  10" ?? and if what number reprisent disabl timeout ?09:55
Seveasn00bster, timeout 0 would disable it09:55
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Snarkwhere do I report bugs on universe packages ?09:55
SeveasSnark, launchpad.net/malone09:55
Vengefulhi again09:55
Mazrimok ready Paradoxx, heres the error linux-image-2.6.10-5-386_2.6.10-34.6_i386.deb09:55
Mazrim Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)09:55
ompauln00bster, I suggest you leave a second or two in there there - so you can press esc if you need to go into rescue mode09:56
Mazrimand how do you disable backport?09:56
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kevogodHas anyone played America's Army?09:56
kevogod(on Ubuntu)09:56
Vengefulyes..never in linux though :-)09:56
Vengefulhehe09:56
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funkyHatn00bster, are you trying to disable it, so that the selected option will boot immediately, or so that it will wait indefinitely?09:56
Mazrim!backport09:56
ubotubackport is, like, see !backports09:56
MikkelKtwysted, damn that looks complicated09:56
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Vengefullinux is not for gamers...few years off yet :-)09:56
Mazrim!backports09:56
ubotuAdd "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports09:56
SnarkSeveas: hmmm...09:56
rukuartic-awayright, awesome. thanks everyone.09:56
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Chinamancan anyone help me with an RAR file?09:57
Chinamani have 5 RAR files09:57
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SeveasChinaman, apt-get install unrar-nonfree09:57
Chinamanin windows they open as one file09:57
Seveasunrar x filename.rar09:57
funkyHatMikkelK, what's complicated about it?09:57
funkyHatyou just apt-get install it, and it works09:57
delireVengeful: i play plenty of games in Linux, uncluding windows games.09:57
LasseLMazrim, go into the Settings > Repositories menu in synaptic09:57
n00bsterso that it will wait indefinitely !09:57
Vengefulyes but why?09:57
funkyHati thought so09:57
Mazrimok09:58
Mazrimthank you09:58
Vengefulwhy go to so much trouble?09:58
grgcsmcwhere is the command line09:58
delireVengeful: i haven't run windows in around 8 years and don't intend to.09:58
funkyHatn00bster, there will probably be instructions in the /boot/grub/menu.lst file on how to do that09:58
Mazrimany thoughts on my problem? also, it says dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.10-5-386_2.6.10-34.6_i386.deb (--unpack):09:58
Mazrim trying to overwrite `/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko', which is also in package ndiswrapper-modules-2.6.10-5-38609:58
Mazrimdpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)09:58
Mazrimsry about the paste09:58
Vengefulnever hurts to have a comp with windows on for certain mmorpg....and any other game is covered by a console09:58
n00bsterfunkyHat - so that it will wait indefinitely !09:58
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Vengefulid like to think linux is good for gamers...but it is a few years off09:58
n00bsterty, i'll look for that .09:59
Vengefuli would love it if it was true...but it's not09:59
twystedVengeful there are plenty of games that now run on linux or can be emulated to run on linux, linux gamers exist09:59
[LethAL] Vengeful, I'm one of them09:59
grgcsmcwhere is the command line?09:59
[LethAL] :D09:59
twystedi was too when i played games09:59
MikkelKfunkyHat, okay, it just looked complicated at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashDiscuss09:59
[LethAL] twysted, Yeah, I've come off them somewhat as well09:59
Chinamanseveas: thx09:59
SeveasMazrim, yeah, get rid of ndiswrapper-modules-*10:00
Seveasand don't paste in here10:00
twystedwhen i come around ill prolly reinstall linux again but not until i quit this job hehe10:00
funkyHatMikkelK, ahh, ok10:00
MazrimSeveas: unistall or just delete from cache10:00
Vengefuloh of course you can get them working...i used to play CS in mandrake hehe10:00
Vengefuli just dont see the point10:01
SeveasMazrim, uninstall10:01
Vengefulwhen its obvious to many game makers wont support it :-)10:01
SeveasVengeful and others, please take this discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic and keep this a support channel10:01
twystedhehe10:01
Vengefulah sorry ;-)10:01
delireVengeful: Linux just needs more forward thinking developers like John Carmack, Rockstar games and bioware.10:01
Vengefuloh i know10:02
Vengefulits just some years off10:02
Seveasdelire, you too10:02
delireSeveas: fair enough..10:02
twystedguys10:02
[LethAL] Seveas, you wouldn't happen to know why it would appear that tor exit nodes are banned, would you?10:02
Seveas[LethAL] , abuse overdoes10:02
Seveasoverdose*10:02
LasseLdelire, will GTA run on linux?10:02
Trashcanhey seveas :)10:02
Seveashey garbage10:02
MazrimSeveas: but then no wi-fi?10:02
Trashcan:910:02
Trashcan:(10:02
[LethAL] Seveas, Surely there are much better ways though...10:03
twystedLassel, yes with winex10:03
Snarkbug filed10:03
SeveasMazrim, linux-restricted-modules contains ndiswrapper too10:03
Snarkthanks10:03
Snarkciao10:03
Mazrimoh10:03
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Mazrimok, thank you10:03
oris_wolfbanehey guys, whats the path to qt?10:03
dell500for some reason from switching over to gnome from kde, i've lost my Documents folder on my desktop.....10:03
Seveasoris_wolfbane, that question makes no sense without context...10:04
dell500could that happen?10:04
[LethAL] dell500, Highly unlikely...10:04
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drunken-wallabyhi everyone...10:04
twystedhey dell50010:04
twystedwhat happend when you loaded kde? where they there?10:04
oris_wolfbaneim compiling somthing and it cant find qt10:05
oris_wolfbanebut says to use ./configure --with-qt-dir10:05
dell500twysted, ya they were10:05
twystedok do this dell50010:05
twystedcopy that documents folder right into your home directory10:05
Seveasoris_wolfbane, what are you compiling?10:05
dell500I mean i have 4 folders on my desktop, Pictures, New Torrents, and Ripped CDs, and Documents10:06
twystedok move those into your home directory then10:06
oris_wolfbaneGoFun10:06
dell500twysted, i'm confused, it's no where to be found10:06
dell500the folder that is10:06
twystedyoull have to do this in KDE10:06
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tehwizardoris_wolfbane, open synaptic and search for 'libqt'10:07
drunken-wallabygot a little problem when i try to build a little latex-gui called amyedit (amyedit.sourceforge.net). the "make" step breaks because of errors such as (/usr/include/libintl.h:40: Error: expected unqualified-id before "const"). Anyone who has a hint what I could do?10:07
tehwizardsee if you've got libqt installed10:07
dell500twysted, what if i can't get in kde? :(10:07
Seveasoris_wolfbane, install the kdelibs4-dev and kdebase-dev packages10:07
dell500with the xorg config i have now10:07
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oris_wolfbanethanks10:07
Seveasdrunken-wallaby, that software is broken, file a bug at the developers that it won't compile :)10:07
Vengefulmore linux in general than ubuntu...gaim is kinda...erm..ugly. amsn is kinda ..hmm...crashy10:08
twysteddell500, you should have an option too, even in gnome you can set it to change GDM to load into kde instead of gnome10:08
Vengefulwhatcha recommend?10:08
twystedgaim10:08
Vengefultis ugly though10:08
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SeveasVengeful, MSN7 + wine ;)10:09
twystedhehe10:09
delireoris_wolfbane: once libqt is installed, run 'sudo ldconfig' then 'whereis <qtpackagename>' choose the lib path, and use --configure --with-qt-dir=/path/to/qtlibs10:09
Vengefulergh10:09
Vengefulnever10:09
dell500twysted, the login screen setup?10:09
twysteddell500 yes10:09
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kbrooksSeveas, i have a game on cd. but its win32 only :'(10:09
Seveaskbrooks, try if it works with wine ;)10:09
twystedkbrooks you can use wine :)10:09
[LethAL] Vengeful, you won't get MSN 7.510:09
Vengefulbtw....curious if anyone uses ubuntu for servers?10:10
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kbrooksSeveas, cant install it now10:10
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delireoris_wolfbane: you will need to grab the -dev packages as the compilation process relies on 'header files' being on board.10:10
twystedvengeful i do10:10
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Vengefuloh?10:10
SeveasVengeful, I have ~30 servers running Ubuntu :)10:10
Karnivoredo you guys know about the wu-2.6.2 exploit? actually I think thats just for RedHat10:10
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flickerfly|homeIs there a known issue with firefox starting, but not showing on the screen? I have uninstalled and reinstalled firefox with no change. epiphany seems to have worked.10:10
[LethAL] Vengeful, I'd recommend Debian Stable10:10
Kirschhey guys, any idea on the ATI Mobility driver with Breezy?10:10
Vengefulhow does it do?10:10
Vengefulah..hmm..10:10
tehwizardso dudes, got a support question for anyone familiar with breezy... (i did a dist-upgrade). I need to compile custom kernel modules for my wireless, and for whatever reason it's saying "/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build: No such file or directory." I had previously compiled them fine for hoary. I've re-installed linux-kernel-headers, but no go. anybody got a suggestion for me? why would compiling break when I upgraded to breezy?10:10
twystedit does well :)10:10
Vengefulcurrently only offer freebsd and centos10:10
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SeveasKarnivore, not by heart, CVE reference?10:10
SeveasUbuntu works very nice on servers10:11
KarnivoreHere's the link to it http://www.governmentsecurity.org/archive/t6358.html10:11
Seveastehwizard, install linux-headers-$(uname -r)10:11
kbrooksSeveas, but you would never use GUI10:11
twystedvengeful, currently offer? who?10:11
Vengefulah il pm..dont like to spam10:11
twystedok10:11
Seveaskbrooks, I use gui all the time, even on a few of my servers :)10:11
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kbrooksSeveas, why?10:12
Seveas(I'm a terminal junkie though, using GUI on these servers is for testing freenx)10:12
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Zoohousehello everyone10:12
mumbleslo10:13
Seveashi10:13
KarnivoreI was just wondering about it Serveas10:13
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ZoohouseQuick question, Can I update ubuntu 5.04 to the latest ver. via synaptic?10:13
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kbrooksZoohouse, yes, but don't do it right now10:13
tehwizardSeveas, you're right, it looks like that didn't get upgraded. I didn't know that was different from linux-kernel-headers. I'll try it.10:13
Zoohousekbrooks, why?10:13
GNULinuxerkbrooks: is breezy stable now?10:13
kbrooksZoohouse, breezy is NOT stable atm10:13
tehwizardthx!10:13
SeveasKarnivore, wu-ftpd is crap and not really supported10:14
GNULinuxerdamn!10:14
kbrooksGNULinuxer, nope10:14
esacdid anybody else upgrade last night and notice that their network/wireless performance increased? i used to have issues playing a video file across the lan, but after last nights upgrade those issues disappeared10:14
Zoohousekbrooks, got it10:14
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eppwhen i start xfce arts starts... and while its running i cant start esd... how can i make arts kill at startup and esd run?10:14
GNULinuxerkbrooks: what are the issues?10:14
Chousukewait until official release :P10:14
Chousukeit's not far away10:14
Zoohousekbrooks, How would I go about doing it once it is stable?10:14
KarnivoreSeveas, my uni uses wu-ftpd, does that mean they are vulnerable to the exploit? I might want to tell them about it10:14
SeveasKarnivore, but afair this has been fixed/did not apply to ubunt10:14
dell500what is the Multimedia Systems Selector for, what's default sink and source?10:14
drunken-wallabyseveas: which software. amyedit or libintl.h ?10:14
kbrooksGNULinuxer, i'm not an ubuntu dev, but look at the mailing list10:14
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SeveasKarnivore, that will depend on the version of wu10:15
ZoohouseAnother question, I just ran Make on GMC, how do I strip all the debuging stuff from the build?10:15
Seveasdrunken-wallaby, amyedit10:15
Karnivore2.6.210:15
KarnivoreVersion wu-2.6.2(1)10:15
kbrooksZoohouse, strip10:15
SeveasKarnivore, and probably it depends on the compile flags :)10:15
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epphow can i make arts kill at startup and esd run?10:15
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Zoohousethnax kbrooks10:15
Seveasor even configuration10:15
Karnivoreexploit is low risk then10:16
kbrooksepp: uh. do you want arts to be killed when esd runs?10:16
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kbrooksor what?10:16
Seveassince this LIST thing can be disabled in any decent FTP server (ok, wu-ftpd is not decent)10:16
qzertyDoes anyone know how to install ssl on a mod_perl server10:16
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drunken-wallabyseveas: ok, thx. but it's strange because i did compile prevous versions (namely 0.8) successfully in hoary. now in breezy AND hoary i can't even compile the 0.8 version because of the libint.h error. anyways, thanks for your answer!10:16
qzertyI have apache-perl installed, and need mod_ssl too10:16
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grgcsmcwhere can i get a dvd player codec?10:16
eppkbrooks, just want arts to be killed everytime xfce starts then have esd run.10:17
TiMiDogrgcsmc try sudo apt-cache search dvd10:17
imc_Anyone use sing (Send ICMP nasty garbage) ?10:17
eppkbrooks, i dont have to do it maually every startup10:17
eppso i dont have to do it manually10:17
eppsry10:17
grgcsmcim not that good with open source10:17
imc_I'm trying to find a source for it.10:17
Seveasdrunken-wallaby, breezy uses gcc410:17
kbrooksepp: well, i dont know... BUT ... anyway....10:18
Seveasgcc4 is MUCH stricter10:18
kbrooks*thinks*10:18
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MikkelKfunkyHat, that didn't give me any bootsplash (?)10:18
imc_Anyone use sing (Send ICMP nasty garbage) ?10:18
drunken-wallabyseveas: ok, thx a lot...10:19
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funkyHatMikkelK, oh. it should have done :(10:19
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esacis there a howto/doc for creating a .deb package for use with dpkg and apt ?10:19
kbrooks(while pgrep artsd; kill -1 arts; # code to run esd here) &10:19
eppwhere is the file that runs commands at startup?10:20
MikkelKfunkyHat, i shouldn't do anything but "apt-get install usplash" right?10:20
twysted epp /etc/init.d/10:20
Zoohousekbrooks, should I run strip -s or strip -d ?10:20
grgcsmcTimido: i got alot of things, where do i get em10:20
kbrookstwysted, file10:20
twystedthe files are in there :p10:20
tritiumesac, read the debian new maintainer's guide10:20
funkyHatMikkelK, you shouldn't need to do anything but that no10:20
twystedthose are all the services that start on boot10:20
epptwysted, thx man10:20
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kbrooksZoohouse, -s strips EVERYTHING. -d then10:20
delireSeveas: i'm having a hard time coming to terms with gcc-4.0.*10:20
esactritium: i take it i can just search for that on msn search ?10:21
tritiumesac, apt-get intsall maint-guide-en (for the english version).  apt-cache search maint-guide for other languages10:21
delireSeveas: gcc-3.* was so sympathetic ;)10:21
epptwysted, how do i edit init.d10:21
esactritium: thanks :)10:21
tritiumsure10:21
imc_Okay, Im having problems with installing a .deb file I downloaded: I'm doing sudo apt-get install ~/path/file.deb10:21
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tritiumepp, init.d is a directory in which the initscripts are held10:21
xiaowenWhat's the definition of what goes into contrib versus main?10:21
delireepp: use update-rc.d10:21
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Seveasimc_, sudo dpkg -i path/to/deb10:21
tritiumyes, delire has the right advice10:21
imc_DOH110:21
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imc_Thanks, Seveas10:21
ompaulanyone care to give the command line from the properties of the 'login setup screen' ? I want to run it in a terminal in X, I just can't get into gnome atm - this info will help10:21
ZoohouseThe command is strip <option> <file> is the file the package name or i have to type in the bin?10:22
Seveasompaul, sudo gdmsetup10:22
ompaulSeveas, thanks10:22
eppdelire, i want to add a command that stops arts. how do i do that?10:22
ootputis it common to have ~ 420 updates upon first logging in to a fresh Breezy system?10:22
TiMiDoootput yes it is normal10:22
eppootput, probly... its a new version with probly alot of bugs.10:23
ompaulSeveas, if you promise not to laugh: Could not access GDM configuration file.10:23
Seveasootput, depends on how old your install cd is10:23
ootputalright, preview10:23
Seveasbut it's very well possible, breezy is being developed actively10:23
Seveasootput, then 420 is ok10:23
r0ddoes anyone have a good link to compiler error troubles?10:23
joe_alfi installed sun java using fakeroot make-jpkg then dpkg -i jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin. It install fine. The question is when i try to issue the command 'which java' it return '/usr/bin/java' then '/usr/bin/java -version' it returned  'java version "1.4.2"10:23
joe_alf'.10:23
Seveasompaul, using sudo?10:23
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ompaulSeveas,  yes10:23
Seveasjoe_alf, sudo update-alternatives --config java10:23
Seveasjoe_alf, sudo update-alternatives --config javac10:23
Seveasjoe_alf, sudo update-alternatives --config jar10:24
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joe_alfSeveas, i'll try that. thanks10:24
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delireepp: sorry, phone.. 'update-rc.d artsd remove' or similar10:25
rendered_oneHey everyone10:25
ompaulSeveas, I've gone to the man page :) back in an hour or two10:25
ZoohouseAh, I can just run make install-strip10:25
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imc_Thanks Seveas10:26
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eppSeveas, how do i stop arts from running at startup?10:26
delireepp: sorry, phone.. 'update-rc.d artsd remove' or similar10:26
Tiggsyou can remove arts and use alsa instead10:26
tritiumepp, read the manpage on update-rc.d for more details10:26
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Tiggshow do i do tv out with my nvidia card? install nvtv but it crashes with semeent faunt10:27
Concord_DawnDoes anyone know a way to list installed apt-get packages?10:27
eppisnt there a text file i can edit that runs commands aT START?10:27
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stianhHey guys, I just installed my printer, cups recognises the driver and so on, and it queues the job when I try to print something, but nothing comes out and the job just stays there trying to print. Any suggestions on what to look at? I get no errors. It's a Lexmark printer, with non-official drivers10:27
Tiggswheni boot tv out does clone up untill x starts then the tv goes blank10:28
stianhoh and yeah, I used alien to conver rpm's to debs for the drivers10:28
KarnivoreI cant use Ubuntu with a powerbook because it wont use the touchpad, that sucks10:28
kbrooksHow do I use GNOME to switch to another workspace?10:28
SeveasConcord_Dawn, dpkg -l10:28
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SeveasConcord_Dawn, KILL THAT SCRIPT NOW10:28
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esacwhat script ?10:29
Seveasauto-reply10:29
dell500anyone know how to bring bad a file that was deleted possible?10:29
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esacah10:29
esackbrooks: i assume you mean using the keyboard ?10:29
Seveasanyone who runs bots/scripts that send messages in here will be kicked10:30
kbrooksesac: ?10:30
Seveasaxcept for cafuego/ubotu :)10:30
coolkevhow do i turn off the annoying feature in ubuntu, where when u hover over audio files, it begins to play them automatically10:30
kbrooksesac: responding to what?10:30
esackbrooks: you asked how to switch workspaces with gnome .. do you mean how do you switch using the keyboard ?10:30
coolkevthis feature causes crashes in nautlius10:30
kbrooksesac: yes10:30
KarnivoreWhy wouldnt the touchpad work? seems silly10:30
tritiumcoolkev, that's a preview function in nautilus.  Check its preferences10:30
esackbrooks: i use ctrl+alt+right arrow  or ctrl+alt+left arrow10:30
SilversetsunAnyone have any experience with cups and an entirely network printer?  I'm having a hell of a time getting my printer to work.10:31
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kbrooksesac: ok10:31
coolkevtritium, thank you it worked now10:31
esacwhy don't we dump totem and package VLC ? vlc is so much better :)10:31
imc_The age old java-for-firefox question. I just got this: Failed to fetch http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports/dists/hoary-extras/restricted/binary-i386/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update02_i386.deb  401 Authorization Required10:31
imc_any ideas anyone?10:31
tritiumcoolkev, good :)10:31
kbrooksesac: do you like bash scripting? ;)10:31
coolkevyes I second that idea of VLC10:32
tritiumimc_, build your own10:32
Seveasesac, vlc is packaged and available from the ubuntu repos...10:32
esackbrooks: after 7 years of writing windows batch files and then switching to bash, um, HELL YEA :)10:32
imc_tritium, sure thing. Can you point me to a guide?10:32
TiggsSilversetsun, what is the setup? linux running the printer and another linux box trying to print?10:32
grgcsmchow would i install something?10:32
Seveasimc_, wiki.ubuntu.com/Java10:32
tritium!tell imc_ about java10:32
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imc_gracias, tritium10:32
tritiumde nada10:32
kbrooksesac: your nickname == escape case? ;)10:32
esacSeveas: yes, but everything is setup with totem by default. nautilus launches with totem by default, totem is installed with the base package by default10:33
coolkevOct 13 the new version of Ubuntu, Breeze Badger, Will have a final version ready and released?10:33
Seveasesac, that's beause totem is the gnome default :)10:33
esackbrooks: its mean to be such, yes10:33
esacSeveas: ah, crappy10:33
Tiggsgrgcsmc, what are you tring to insteall? under system menu, got to administration and look for synaptic10:33
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dell500is it possible to go back to a certain date when my Documents folder was still existent?10:33
kbrooksesac: why do you like bash scripting? ;)10:33
grgcsmcits already downloaded10:33
grgcsmcits dvdread10:34
esachow do you switch nautilus to use vlc instead of totem ?10:34
Tiggsyou dont see  an icon for it?10:34
esackbrooks: have you ever written windows batch files ?10:34
grgcsmcunder synaptic?10:34
kbrooksesac: Not really, but i've seen some.10:34
mister_robotoWas someone here asking about ATI Mobility and Breezy earlier?10:35
kbrooksesac: I don't like errorlevel. $? is so much better10:35
esackbrooks: they suck. i wrote so many of them for admin purposes. when i installed slackware in 97 and wrote my first bash script, i was so excited i started using esac as my nick10:35
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Tiggsgrgcsmc, im not familiar with the file, is it a program you run or a library to let you read stuff?10:35
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grgcsmcprogram10:35
kbrooksesac: Why do you think they suck?10:35
coolkevOct 13 the new version of Ubuntu, Breeze Badger, Will have a final version ready and released hopfully??10:36
kbrookscoolkev, Yes10:36
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Tiggsgrgcsmc, know how to open a terminal?10:36
mister_robotoesac: you don't need to install linux just to get bash. cygwin runs great on windows :)10:36
grgcsmcya, but im not good with code10:36
Tiggsgrgcsmc, try typing dvdread into a terminal10:36
coolkevthos using hoary will have to format to install the new version or what?10:36
grgcsmcok10:36
SilversetsunTiggs, I'm running ubuntu, and my printer is a network printer.  Connected directly to my network via ethernet.10:36
kbrookscoolkev, No.10:36
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mister_robotoKirsch: you there?10:37
coolkevkbrooks, then how?10:37
kbrookscoolkev, it's just a simple change of a file and two commands10:37
transparentdreamHow can I remote desktop with a friend's computer?10:37
esacmister_roboto: yes, but its not installed by default, when writing a batch script for systems that are newly setup, its imperative to use what comes with the system as much as possible10:37
grgcsmcdiddnt work10:37
coolkevohh10:37
mister_robotoesac: yeah, i know what you mean. that's why i'm a vi user rather than emacs ;)10:37
Tiggsgrgcsmc,  sorry then I can think of anything else :(10:37
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mumblesas a text editer10:38
coolkevi already went to the website and ordered the cds10:38
TiggsSilversetsun, you cant find the printer? or you just cant print to it?10:38
esacvi/vim/gvim here myself too10:38
grgcsmcit came with instructions, but i dont understand em10:38
coolkevlike last week will they ship the new version?10:38
transparentdreamWhat do i od to remote desktop with a friend's computer?10:38
kbrookscoolkev, you can use those cds, just put them in and reboot10:38
Tiggsgrgcsmc, what exactly is your goal? are you trying to watch dvd movies or read dvd data disks?10:38
CryptidI need dcom98.exe for my wine to function properly so where do i get it from ne 1 got an idea???10:38
grgcsmcwatch10:38
mumblesesac - sudo wpt-get install joe10:38
kbrookscoolkev, press enter at the prompt10:39
Tiggsgrgcsmc, oh, mind if i pm you the links to stuff you need?10:39
grgcsmcok10:39
SilversetsunTiggs, I know the printer's ip address, but I can't print to it for some reason.10:39
coolkevohh alright kbooks, this si really good news for me, i didn't wanna back up everything to just install a new version10:39
kbrookscoolkev, ubuntu isnt windows10:39
coolkevlol, i'll keep that in mind10:40
coolkevi been on the windows bad wangon for a long time10:40
coolkevso i get scared doing things like that10:40
coolkevband*10:40
joe__How do I make an ISO?10:40
esacmumbles: why joe? i LOVE command mode in an editor10:40
kbrookscoolkev, one year so far ;)10:40
coolkevfo you?10:41
mumblesi just prefere it. i cant cope with command mode yet10:41
kbrookson linux10:41
joe__esac: Huh?10:41
kbrooksyees10:41
coolkevhow do i find out how long i've had ubuntu10:41
joe__!tell joe__ about iso10:41
dell500can someone help me with a file i'm missing?? :(10:41
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esachahaha now that is funny :)10:41
kbrookscoolkev,  hmm, why do you want that?10:41
coolkevjust wanted to know how long ago i instaleld ubuntu so i know how long i've been using it10:42
P229coolkev: check timestamps on files, maybe10:42
P229if you want to be precise, that is10:42
kbrooksi dunno if that can be reliably grabbed10:42
dooglusdell500: which one?10:42
coolkevbut don't files get updated and modified10:42
dell500dooglus, my documents folder10:42
Seveascoolkev, ls -al /var/log/debian-installer :)10:43
yarddogi accidently deleted my trash can icon, how can i get that back ? :P10:43
dooglusdell500: run "mkdir ~/Documents" in a shell?10:43
Seveasor /var/log/installer if you installed breezy from scratch10:43
coolkevthanks seveas10:43
dell500k10:43
Tiggsback10:43
Seveas 2005-03-15 11:16 <-- hoary preview :)10:43
kbrooks13:55 :P10:43
dooglusdell500: I don't know if it's called something else in locales other than UK English10:43
P229does anyone have an audio editing program recommendation other than audacity, or is audacity pretty much the best available?10:43
Seveasno, it was even warty, didn't have a hoary cd :)10:43
Seveasbut I immediately dist-upgraded :)10:44
coolkevls: /var/log/debian-installer: No such file or directory10:44
dell500dooglus, should i do ~/Desktop/Documents instead, since it was there?10:44
Seveasor /var/log/installer if you installed breezy from scratch <-- coolkev10:44
TiggsSeveas, are you getting any printer error?10:44
kbrooksSeveas, not there on here10:44
coolkevno i'm on hoary10:44
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P229yarddog: right click on panel > add to panel10:44
coolkevinstalled from hoary cd10:44
dooglusdell500: no, I don't think so.10:44
Seveascoolkev, hmm, ls -al /var/log10:45
Seveasput the output on the pastebin :)10:45
kbrooks854 packages is awfully huge ;)10:45
dell500dooglus, nope... no go10:45
dooglusdell500: all I know is my Documents folder is in my home directory, not on my desktop10:45
yarddogP229, thank you sir10:45
TiggsSeveas, with my printer you had to install users that were allowed to print, by default not even root was in the printer group10:45
coolkevusing ubuntu since Feburary 14 200510:45
coolkevso almost 7 months10:46
P229yarddog: np10:46
mattyJwhats the best p2p client for gnome? (gtk2)10:46
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spolagnome-bittorent?10:47
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kemikmattyJ:  skype, gaim, dc++, azureus ....10:47
kemiklots of p2p clients...10:47
kbrooksI love gconf.10:47
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coolkevwhen will the new x-chat update be avaliable for hoary10:48
P229mattyJ: gnome-btdownload (installed by default) is very nice10:48
mattyJgtk2, and i ment like edonkey or similar p2p10:48
CryptidI need dcom98.exe for my wine to function properly so where do i get it from ne 1 got an idea???10:48
tritiumcoolkev, is there a security issue?10:48
mattyJand gnome-btdownload is horible10:48
coolkevi can check and find out10:48
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kbrooksP229, amule10:48
kbrookser10:49
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tritiumcoolkev, don't expect updates to packages in a stable release, other than for security fixes10:49
P229mattyJ: ah, for downloading mp3s... just use limewire10:49
qzertyfor mp3s i prefer nicotine10:49
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coolkevtritium, this is from the xchat website:  10-Sep-200510:50
coolkev    Released 2.4.5 for Linux/BSD/Unix. This version has been tested on FC4 and FreeBSD 4.11. It's recommended you upgrade to this version for security reasons.10:50
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P229qzerty: yeah, but I quite smoking back in April10:50
P229quit*10:50
coolkevso tritium there is a security reason and needs to be added to ubuntu asap10:50
tritiumcoolkev, that's not very specific.  What's the vulnerability?10:50
samu2are there any easy to setup FTP servers?10:51
coolkevi'm telling you from the website www.xchat.org, you seem to be the expert not me, so maybe you can find out10:51
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kbrookscoolkev, hes not a expert10:52
coolkevwell he prolly knows more then me10:52
P229has anyone else had trouble with Audacity? i.e., "There was an error initializing the audio i/o layer. You will not be able to play or record audio. Error: Host error."10:52
tritiumgee, thanks, kbrooks10:52
dalamarim on a linux only breezy system now, though i dont want to i need to install windows for school, can I resize my hd and install win and get dual boot working without losing my breezy install/data??10:53
coolkevi'm a simple user just stating what i read on the official website of xchat10:53
K^Holtzwhat is nicotines website? i want to read about it.. i have googled it, but have come up with many different results, not sure which is the correct site10:53
qzertywu-ftp isn't bad10:53
kbrookstritium, ?10:53
scribblesE: Couldn't find package libdivx4linux10:53
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scribblesanyone get this?10:53
scribblesin 5.1010:53
kbrookswhat did i do?!?10:53
qzertyK^Holtz: Who cares, apt-get install nicotine and try it, slsk port to linux, not a special network10:53
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K^Holtzqzerty im not currently running linux yet10:53
qzertyK^Holtz: www.slsknet.org for windows client10:53
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kbrooks?10:53
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K^Holtzthank you10:54
seliniumP229, If you get it up and running, message me and let me konw how!10:54
P229selinium: audacity? will do10:54
seliniumP229, Cheers!10:54
mattyJFred|Fr3d: how do you get a sever list for dcgui??10:54
kbrookstritium: What grounds do you have for kicking or banning me, if that's what you are going to do?10:54
tritiumkbrooks, huh?10:55
Fred|Fr3dmattyJ: you've got me there. i don't know, but you could try using one from DC++, or i might have a url to one, lemme check10:55
tritiumkbrooks, what makes you think that?10:55
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kbrookstritium, because you just opped yourself and that scares me ...10:55
joe_alflol10:56
mattyJheh10:56
VegarIs there a graphical .deb installer/dpkg interface?10:56
Fred|Fr3dmattyJ: nah the list was removed from the site i used to use :(. i'll get the dc++ list url if you want it tho?10:56
tritiumheh, kbrooks, it's not for you, dude ;)10:56
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mattyJFred|Fr3d: ya, it should do the same thing right?10:56
kbrooksVegar, synaptic10:56
Fred|Fr3dyeh10:56
P229selinium: haven't tried this yet, but will shortly: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=655110:56
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Vegarkbrooks: ok, thanks10:57
Fred|Fr3dmattyJ: http://www.hublist.org/PublicHubList.xml.bz210:57
Seveasnow you're less scary ;(10:57
Seveas;)10:57
Fred|Fr3dand perhaps try that site too ;-)10:57
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B4c0nM4NI have a very stupid question. How do I install programs that I have downloaded?10:57
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kbrooksSeveas, ty ty ty10:57
qzertyVegar: synaptic kynaptic10:57
SeveasB4c0nM4N, depends on what you downloaded10:58
qzertyB4c0nM4N: thats depends on the format of the program10:58
kbrooksB4c0nM4N, if its a .deb, sudo dpkg -i /path/to/.deb10:58
B4c0nM4Nit's for example an .tar.gz file....10:58
seliniumP229, Ooooh, I hope it is that simple!10:58
qzertytaz -zxvvf10:58
seliniumHi Seveas :)10:58
kbrooksB4c0nM4N, tar -xzvf /path/to/file10:58
Seveashi selinium10:58
Vegarqzerty, kbrooks: how do I install a .deb file with synaptic?10:59
kbrooksqzerty, No.10:59
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Trashcanthere is no graphical interface to sudo dpkg -i .deb?10:59
qzertykbrooks: what?10:59
kbrooksVegar, You don't.10:59
SeveasTrashcan, no10:59
Trashcanhmm10:59
YourTechSupportTHRU-OUT-DA-PRAW-JEX!!!10:59
P229selinium: doesn't seem to work yet10:59
YourTechSupportheh.10:59
kbrooksTrashcan, None at all.10:59
Trashcanany specific reason, seveas?10:59
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SeveasTrashcan, noone wrote one yet10:59
Vegarkbrooks: you just said I could10:59
kbrooksSeveas, what was he saying?10:59
dell500what's the syntax for copying 2 folders over to a certain destinatio?10:59
Trashcani see..10:59
seliniumP229: Shame...10:59
fredforfaenhey peeps!10:59
Seveasdell500, cp folder1 folder2 destination11:00
B4c0nM4Nkbrooks, can i decide the path myself?11:00
Seveascp -r even11:00
kbrooksB4c0nM4N, just a example11:00
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fredforfaenhello!11:00
YourTechSupportSorry. Hi folks.11:00
fredforfaenYourTechSupport hi11:01
P229selinium: yep, it works. I was just testing it on a messed up audio file11:01
P229selinium: still can't record yet11:01
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seliniumP229: Cool! Fab! Excelent! It's further than i have got so far! :) Cheers!11:02
oxezHm. Some windows box on my network has 192.168.1.116. This computer is pingable by other windows pcs in the network, except mine, which is on Ubuntu. Cables are all correct, since I'm talking in here. I checked the domains, they are correct.. Is there something I can do to be able to ping that box?11:02
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Seveasoxez, do you use dhcp?11:02
dougsklaunchpad integration looks pretty cool.  Is everythign in 'main' goign to be using malone soon too?11:02
B4c0nM4Nkbrooks, it look slike it did "something"... what do I do afterwards?11:02
oxezSeveas: no11:02
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Seveasdougsk, depends on your definition of soon ;)11:02
Seveasoxez, did you set an IP address?11:03
Seveasif so, does ifconfig list it?11:03
dougskSeveas, no worries, lloks awesome11:03
oxezSeveas: yes, on that box (.1.116), and on mine11:03
fredforfaenso whats up?11:03
Seveasand did you set the correct gateway?11:03
Hydroxidehi ... I'm helping an ubuntu hoary user with cvs server setup, and I need to know: what's the default umask in ubuntu, and why? it seems like 0022, and that doesn't make sense with per-user groups11:03
Seveascan you ping to other machines from the Ubuntu box?11:03
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oxezyes I can11:03
Doonzhey doest anyone know the command to completely format a windows box from within windows?11:03
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Seveasoxez, hrm.... firewall issue?11:04
oxezifconfig only shows my ip, and the gateway is okay (my router)11:04
oxezSeveas: I turned it off11:04
whyameyeright now FireFox plays video through the mplayer plug-in. Is there a way I could change this to play video thru totem-xine instead?11:04
dbwer, say11:04
anethemahey uhhh, for some reason my desktop icons all dissapeared11:04
dbwhow do i use synaptic to show only updates from hoary-security ?11:04
anethema the files are still in the dir11:04
anethemabut no idea why they are suddenly not showing up11:04
whyameyeanethema, have you tried rebooting?11:04
anethemai rebooted X11:04
dbwor, how can i see the security updates in ANY way?  (without using the gnome applet)11:04
B4c0nM4NDoonz, I don't think such a command exists...11:04
anethemabut not all of linux11:04
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Vengefulheh format?11:05
Vengefuldeltree /y deltree c:windows will mess it up11:05
Vengefulbut wont format11:05
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dbwanybody?11:05
oxezDoonz: you can reboot with a DOS disk, and type format c:11:05
qzertyYou cant format the operating system you booted off of11:05
Doonzvengefu will that just remove all files?11:05
afd_what would be a repository to get e17?11:05
dbwhow can i get secuirty updates without using the panel applet?11:05
tencoi have problems with hotplugd again:11:05
Vengefulyeh11:06
Kyralhmm11:06
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tencomartin@lotophag:~/boinc$ pgrep hotplug |wc -l11:06
tenco601911:06
Vengefulcourse you can delete partitionjs with partition mgic then reboot11:06
KyralMy /dev/sda1 seems to have two ReiserFS Journals on it11:06
anethemaso no one knows how to get my desktop icons back?11:06
Vengefulbut its quicker to just boot from a linuc cd and del from there11:06
tencois this corrected in breezy?11:06
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Doonzthis is a remote server that im not renewing the lease on11:06
Kyraldbw11:06
dbwKyral11:07
Doonzwanna make sure its blank when they get it11:07
Vengefulah gotcha11:07
Vengeful] il ask someone11:07
Vengefulsec11:07
Kyralrun sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade often :P11:07
dbwer. no! my sources.list is long.11:07
oxezSeveas: my ubuntu box doesn't see any computer in the workgroup11:07
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KyralDefine long?11:07
dbwi don't want all these stupid backports upgrades11:07
dbwi just want the security ones11:07
Kyral*twitch*11:07
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delirehehe11:08
KyralMust....control....fist....o'.....death....11:08
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vireodbw: or in synaptic - use the tool bar to Mark All Upgrades11:08
delireKyral: i like the other medicine you were taking.11:08
Kyraleh?11:08
Seveasoxez, sudo mii-diag [your ethernet card] 11:08
dbwi know how to mark all upgrades....... i don't want to mark all upgrades!11:08
KyralSorry, I'm just a huge Backports supporter11:08
Seveasdoes that say that everything is working OK?11:08
dalamarim on a linux only breezy system now, though i dont want to i need to install windows for school, can I resize my hd and install win and get dual boot working without losing my breezy install/data??11:09
dbwKyral: i will apt-get dist-upgrade, but i will blame you if things get broken ;)11:09
Vengefulyes11:09
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KyralNothing will get broken 'cause of Backports11:09
Seveasdalamar, you just need to reinstall grub afterwards11:09
SeveasKyral, bullshit11:09
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delireKyral: not true.11:09
oxezSeveas: You have link beat, and everything is working OK.11:09
Seveasthings have been broken because of it and it will happen again11:09
ompaul!tell dalamar about grub11:09
delireKyral: there is much that can be very much broken.11:09
dbwKyral: it's broken things before11:09
scribbleswho knows the apt-get name for divx, libdivx4linux doesn't work11:09
KyralNever happened to me, and I had just about every damn package on my system from backports :P11:09
ompauldalamar, you will need to know that when you reastart11:10
StricklinIn Thunderbird, I can receive my mail,but not open or view it. :(11:10
tritiumbackports broke firefox for countless users11:10
SeveasKyral, then you don't use hoary-security11:10
delireKyral: timing and luck there. it's a risky business.11:10
Seveaswhich is a bad thing11:10
KyralSeveas: I USED Backports11:10
dalamarompaul, awesome thats exactly what I need to know thanks11:10
KyralI'm in Breezy :P11:10
dbwSeveas: you are my sort of man11:10
dbwSeveas: tell me, how can i get ONLY the hoary-security upgrades in synaptic?11:10
dbw(...or possibly woman)11:11
Stricklintritium, I used backports, could that be my problem?11:11
Kyralcomment out the Backports line in your sources.list11:11
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tritiumStricklin, you have firefox problems?11:11
KyralAnd then again, I tinker11:11
StricklinThunderbird11:11
dbwthese are hackes11:11
delirescribbles: if ever unsure of a package name you can 'apt-cache search <keyword>'11:11
Seveasdbw, add the hoary-security repo :)11:11
Seveasand not backports11:11
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dbwSeveas: :P fair enough11:11
tritiumStricklin, not sure about thunderbird issues11:11
Seveas!tell dbw about sources11:11
Kyralhell I just spent an hour recovering the BIOS from an overclocking attempt gone wrong :D11:11
dalamarokay one more quick question, how do I go about resizing the linux partition now? in windows i would normally use something like partition magic, is there a linux program like this?11:11
dbwi know about sources for christ's sake11:11
dbw:)11:11
Seveasdbw, just making sure :)11:12
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Seveasdalamar, boot from a livecd and use gparted/qtparted11:12
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mirakdo you manage to use TV out with ATI radeon cards ?11:12
delirescribbles: then, to be sure of what that package actually contains/does 'apt-cache search <packagename>'11:12
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Doonzanyone kno if partition magic will prompt you before it does any changes11:12
Kyralhey Seveas, whats the line for your Repo again?11:12
sambagirlhealth11:12
dell500is there a new version of ubuntu out or is that not till oct 13th for the official release?11:12
scribblesonce it downloads form there is it auto-installed and ready to go?11:13
kbrooksdell500, official release11:13
ompauldell500, 13th11:13
SeveasKyral, you can find them at http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/11:13
kbrookshmmm11:13
dalamarSeveas, is that gui or command line? should i read up on it first or is it pretty straight-forward?11:13
dell500aw ok11:13
kbrooksthis needs a FAQ11:13
kbrooksup on the wiki11:13
dell500outtie11:13
dell500peace11:13
Seveasdalamar, it's gui and pretty straight forward11:13
ThunderguyDoonz, in partition magic 8.1 it has always recorded the changes you wanted to make, then when you click apply it does them11:13
dalamarSeveas, cool thanks11:13
Seveaskbrooks, what, that repo? No way, it's just a testing/personal dev. area :)11:13
SeveasI'm making the repo scripts available soon though11:14
ompaulkbrooks, it is in the topic on the wiki, mailing lists and all over google, so what can I tell ya11:14
KyralSeveas, can I just leave it with ubuntu-seveas to enable the whole shabang?11:14
Seveasno11:14
Seveasyou need ubuntu-seveas all11:14
ThunderguyDoonz, I recommend checking for any updates to partition magic, I had a problem the first time I used it, and had to be sure to get the update for XP, though I don't know if your using the norton version or powerquest, I was using the older version.11:14
Kyralty ty11:14
KyralLazy I am11:14
Seveasbut that's risky11:14
sambagirlcook11:14
kbrooksSeveas, no, the release stuff11:14
Kyralthough watch my packages try to update11:14
kbrooksthe ... october 13 stuff11:14
kbrooksscroll up11:14
KyralAgain. Seveas11:15
Seveas!tell kbrooks about breezy11:15
KyralI just spent an hour recovering my BIOS11:15
Seveashmm someone changed it :|11:15
KyralI can handle a little package conflict :D11:15
kemikbios update gone wrong ?11:15
ThunderguyI understand if I get an Ubuntu Cd, the default installation would be to reformat a '/' mount point and install the files, is there a way to install breezy overtop of hoary, updating everything but keeping the user settings ( when it comes out that is )11:15
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Cryptidi am not able to install transcoder cause symaptic say that the dependecies cannot be installed what should i do is there i site where i can get the packages and all the dependecies11:16
Seveas!tell Thunderguy about breezy11:16
kemikThunderguy:  just change hoary to breezy in source.list and apt-get dist-upgrade11:16
tencocan someone help me with the hoptplugd problem?11:16
kbrooksanyway11:16
kbrooksbbl11:16
kbrooksdinner11:16
ThunderguySo your saying on the cd whenever I get it, I put the CD in sources.list and update?11:17
tencoi have several thousand hotplugd processes running here!11:17
tencomartin@lotophag:~/boinc$ pgrep hotplug |wc -l11:17
tenco601911:17
KyralHeheh11:17
KyralSeveas11:17
brosioanyone print with a HP deskjet ?11:17
Kyralits trying to upgrade w32codecs11:17
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tencobrosio: yes11:17
brosiotenco, could u help me ?11:18
tencobrosio: what problem do you have?11:18
brosioif i do11:18
SeveasKyral, that won't happen, w32codecs is behind authentication :)11:18
tencohmm, problem is i run kubuntu11:18
KyralTell that to Apt11:18
brosiocat prova.log > /dev/usb/lp0 works11:18
brosiobut11:18
brosiowith cups11:18
Seveasit will find out :)11:18
brosiodosn't works11:18
MadpilotPPCbrosio, most of the HP stuff seems to run fine in Ubuntu11:19
brosiowith kdeprint11:19
KyralI don't supposed I could get auth?11:19
tencobrosio: what model?11:19
MadpilotPPC!tell brosio about printers11:19
brosiohp 550011:19
brosiowith debian works11:19
CryptidSeveas, i am not able to install transcoder cause symaptic say that the dependecies cannot be installed what should i do is there i site where i can get the packages and all the dependecies11:19
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transparentdreamMy console says it con't find the X includes. What does that mean?11:20
KyralYea, apt is stopped cold11:20
Tiggshow do you get tv out? in install nvtv but how do actually tell it to turn on tv out?11:20
SeveasCryptid, which dependencies/where did you get trancode from?11:20
Seveastransparentdream, that you can't compile GUI programs11:20
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transparentdreamSeveas, How do I fix that?11:20
Seveastransparentdream, by installing the headers or using a deb package to install the program you want to compile11:21
tencobrosio: i installed my 840C via kde with system-settings->settings->devices->printer and adding a printer11:21
tencobrosio: system-settings in kicker11:21
brosiotenco, i do the same11:21
transparentdreamWhere can I find headers? Headers in general or headers for specific program im trying to install?11:21
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tencobrosio: do you change to system managing mode?11:22
dooglustransparentdream: in the <package>-dev package11:22
brosioyes11:22
transparentdreamgotcha11:22
Cryptidseveas, libavcodeccvs libfame-0.9 libgcc1 liblame0 these are the dependencies it needs is there ne way i can get them11:22
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SeveasCryptid, where did you install transcode from?11:23
tencobrosio: is your model listed by the printer wizard?11:23
Kyral*STAB!*11:23
KyralStop trying to upgrade w32codecs!11:23
dooglustransparentdream: you can "sudo apt-get build-dep <package>" to install all the headers you need to build <package>11:23
brosiotenco, yes11:23
brosioi do the same on deb11:23
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brosioon my laptop11:23
brosioand works11:23
KyralThat was to my system11:23
brosiojust a second11:23
KyralI even put a Apt-Pin on it11:23
CryptidSeveas, from synaptic11:24
SeveasCryptid, which repository11:24
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KyralGood Apt..11:25
CryptidSeveas, ubuntu-backport repos11:25
tencoso noone can help me with my hotplugd problem?11:25
Seveasah, well there ya go11:25
Seveasbackport crud11:25
Seveasenable multiverse11:25
Seveasit may work11:25
tencoi just left an usb-memory stick in for a few hours after unmounting it11:25
Seveasor else, stab Kyral :)11:26
Stricklinhttp://photomatt.net/2005/09/29/more-on-ubuntu/11:26
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KyralTry it :P11:26
Kyralahh wait11:26
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KyralI'm hungry11:26
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Seveastenco, that SO sounds like a bug you should file...11:26
CryptidSeveas, how to enable multiverse11:26
Seveas!tell Cryptid about repositories11:27
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fredforfaenanybody here know how i can get e17 by apt?11:27
tencoSeveas: ok. it the third or so time that i have this problem. hotplugd spams the scsi script again and again (now: 6030 times)11:27
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pepsihow can i make usb memory sticks write immediately instead of waiting until i unmount?11:27
Seveastenco, ouch :/11:28
pepsii want to be able to just take it out without unmounting it11:28
Seveaspepsi, by recompiling the hotplug package or remounting them sync instead of async11:28
Blissextenco: BTW, the USB subsystem is notoriously buggy except for keyboards and mice, and 'hotplug' is a horror...11:28
Seveasfredforfaen, search the forums, there's a repo that has it11:28
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pepsiSeveas, so short of recompiling hotplug id have to remount manually?11:29
Seveasyes11:29
Blissextenco: even worse, most USB chipsets in most devices are hideously buggy too.11:29
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Seveaspepsi, sorry, not hotplug but pmount11:29
tencoSeveas: thanks for the info. you dont get these easy :-\11:29
Blissextenco: I have switched back to using static device files, and to load/unload modules manually.11:29
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CryptidSeveas, my multiverse is enabled still it gives the same problem11:30
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pepsiis there a particular reason usb drives get async automatically?11:30
pepsisync makes more sense to me11:30
balrog-kunis there any ftpd package on the install or the live CD?11:30
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SeveasCryptid, libavcodec is not available in hoary11:31
Seveasso there's an error (as usual) with the backport package11:31
tencoSeveas: should i report the bug to ubuntu, debian or hotplug?11:32
Seveasbalrog-kun, no11:32
Seveastenco, all 3 ;)11:32
tenco:)11:32
balrog-kunSeveas: ok11:32
MadpilotPPCtenco, if you report the bug to Ubuntu, I understand that they'll move it on as needed, to Debian or hotplug in this case11:33
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tencoMadpilotPPC: ok11:33
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CryptidSeveas, u mean that i cant do anything about it11:34
tencobye!11:34
CashelAnyone know where I can get the kernel-header package for 12-9? Trying to get fglrx modules to compile in Breezy...11:34
qzertyCashel: ...11:35
qzertyCashel: How did you get the kernel?11:35
SeveasCryptid, you can search for the missing lib somewhere else :)11:35
Seveas!tell Cashel about ati11:35
Cashelvia synaptic's update.... was 12-811:35
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Seveasdon't compile drivers manually11:35
qzertyCashel: And why don't you get the headers through synaptic too11:35
CashelI know all about ATI, I got 3d accel working in hoary....11:35
Cashelbecause they arent there11:35
Cashelor at least I couldnt find them..11:36
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balrog-kunwhere does apt store binary packages?11:36
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qzertylinux-headers-2.6.12-9-k7 - Linux kernel headers 2.6.12 on AMD K711:36
qzertylinux-headers-2.6.12-9-k7-smp - Linux kernel headers 2.6.12 on AMD K7 SMP11:36
Seveasall over your system11:37
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qzertyIf your reffering to the debs: /var/cache/apt/archives11:37
Cashelqzerty, kernel-headers :(11:37
CashelI'm an idiot, thanks man11:37
balrog-kunah, yeah, the .debs it downloads from the network11:38
qzertykernel-headers is debian, we renamed them to linux-headers for fun11:38
Cashelheheh11:38
Cashelhow.. uhhh.. nice of you :)11:38
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Vegarif you want to remove them, use apt-get clean11:38
CashelI'll probably be public enemy #1 for saying this, but besides the boot up on the original kernel (which the updates did away with and broke) breezy doesnt seem any different then hoary did, heheh11:39
s3[mn] rainHi, I am trying to apply a patch to the synaptics-0.14.3 driver, but I am getting "patch: **** unexpected end of file in patch", I have copied and paste the patch right into a plain file, am I missing something?11:39
CashelI heard someone saying gnome 2.12 looks way better, seems the same to me...11:39
kbrooksCashel, Might be better on 13th.11:39
kbrooksubuntu that is11:40
qzertyCashel: Newer kernel, better looking x-splash screen11:40
CashelYeah I sort of jumped the gun installing breezy yesterday instead of waiting, hehe11:40
CashelI was using 6.13 in hoary, heh..11:40
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kbrooksqzerty, x-splash screen? wtf?11:40
lsuactiafnerblackbox looks way better than gnome11:41
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chavolsuactiafner, to you it does, sure.11:41
Cashelbeats hell out of KDE imho11:41
auraxhow can i change a password from root to another user11:41
jrattner1whats the best DVD player, is MPLAYER the best for playing DVD's?11:41
SeveasCashel, gnome 2.12 uses gtk2.8 which uses cairo11:41
auraxsu -u user pass?11:41
auraxpasswd*11:41
Casheljrattner1, I preffer xine11:41
Seveasvector graphics galore11:41
qzertykbrooks: In kubuntu anyway, the xsplash screen is no longer 'redmound' it is 'kubuntu' which looks slightly better11:41
qzertythe kdm login has been polished more too11:41
chavoGnome is nice for the new users.11:42
qzertyAnd the new font system is a sizeable improvement11:42
kbrooksqzerty, gdm and ubuntu :P11:42
lsuactiafnerblackbox is no attempt @ a gui, as it should be heh, extensive menus + taskbars never worked for me11:42
chavolsuactiafner, that's great.11:42
qzertyhhhaha chavo++ was thinking the same thing.11:42
Cashelone thing I noticed with breezy is if you removed gdm from the init.d the kernel messages halt and dont continue to login, have to alt f1 to get a login..11:42
chavothat's the best thing about Linux, choice11:43
lsuactiafnera better looking x-splash screen is really what makes a system..11:43
chavolsuactiafner, for some people maybe.11:43
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transparentdreamhow do i get tiemu to work? Got the rom loaded, nothing does anything11:43
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lsuactiafnerthose some ppl shouldnt be allowed to touch a PC11:44
esac_what is the best p2p program nowadays ? xmule, amule, .. ?11:44
kbrooksesac: i like amule11:44
lsuactiafnerqzerty : do not version me twice, it wont change11:44
dooglusbittorrent is good11:44
chavolsuactiafner, and why is that?11:44
qzertywtf is with the damn p2p questions today11:44
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kbrooksqzerty, ?11:45
balrog-kundirect connect11:45
lsuactiafnerchavo : there are better determinants, like scheduler used in the default kernel.11:45
chavolsuactiafner, if everyone was just like you, what a sad  World this would be. not that there's anything wrong with you.11:45
=== Cashel has always been under the impression that talking of p2p's in linux oriented channels is considered evil :P
chavolsuactiafner, to some people that means absolutley n\othing.11:45
kbrooksCashel, mpt evil11:45
kbrooksnot*11:45
=== esac_ thinks that Chasel assumes that everybody who uses p2p is doing something illegal.
Cashelnot at all11:46
kbrooksCashel, the *programs* are legal11:46
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kbrookstransferring using the programs are illegal11:46
CashelI've just been around a lot of linux channels, and watch people be told not to ask about p2p...11:46
esac_considering that bittorrent is one of the primary means of distributing linux distros, i don't see how p2p could be evil(TM) in linux channels11:46
lsuactiafnerchavo : whenever i boot a pc i dont sit and wait for the splash sreen, thats just a waste of time, if you're promoting a new product a splash screen shouldnt be its best new feature11:46
qzertyThinks p2p is inheritly a boring and abused topic, and that every p2p related question has been answered 550,000 times at least.11:46
Cashelyour preaching to the choir man11:46
kbrooksCashel, who me11:47
Cashelyes you11:47
chavoyep, I share my bana cream pie recipes on p2p.11:47
Casheland esac11:47
chavobanana that is11:47
chavoIt's the best.11:47
CashelI use limewire and direct connect if im in winblowz...11:47
kbrooksCashel, when people ask those questions, sometimes it's offtopic to the channel etc11:47
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kevogodYes, saying "Winblowz" or "Window$" or the like never gets old.11:48
chavochavo_banana_cream_pie_recipe_its_the_best.exe11:48
Cashelkevogod, not to me it doesnt, hehe11:48
lsuactiafneri use a portable 120G hard disk.. dailup modem lol11:48
lsuactiafnerfaster to walk to the ppl than to download something11:48
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kevogodWhen I use Upooptu I use Limewire and Azureus.11:48
Cashelbut then I still think the geek code is fashionable, lol11:48
kbrooks'ppl'?11:48
lsuactiafnerhaha11:48
rrittenhouseHow do I tell ubuntu to install an i686 smp kernel during the install instead of an i386 kernel11:48
Seveasnot11:48
Seveasthere is no 686-smp kernel on the cd11:49
kbrooksSeveas, ping.11:49
erirlarhi, how do i delete all my *.png files from a dir and the sub dirs?11:49
Seveaskbrooks, pong11:49
lsuactiafner.exe?11:49
esac_kbrooks: mind if i msg you a private question11:49
kbrookslsuactiafner, executable11:49
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kbrookslsuactiafner, win3211:49
shadeofgreyokay guys11:49
Seveaserirlar, find /path/to/dir -name '*.png' | xargs rm11:49
shadeofgreyi need information on fonts'11:49
kbrooksesac_: no11:49
kbrookspm away11:49
erirlarthanks11:49
Cashelrm -R *.png wont do it?11:49
shadeofgreyhow hard is it to install ttf fonts in ubuntu?11:49
qzertyfind /path/to/dir -name '*.png' | xargs rm11:49
yarddogrrittenhouse, install with the 386 and then apt-get install the smp kernel11:49
Seveasshadeofgrey, drop them in ~/.fonts anf they're installed11:50
lsuactiafnerchavo_banana_cream_pie_recipe_installs_spyware.not.exe11:50
qzertyfind /path/to/dir -name '*.png' -exec rm {} \;11:50
chavoshadeofgrey, mkdir ~/.fonts, cp font.ttf ~/.fonts11:50
Seveasshadeofgrey, global install: drop them in /usr/share/fonts11:50
shadeofgreywhat is ~/.fonts?11:50
chavono spyware in my cream pie man11:50
Seveasqzerty, xargs is faster, starts just one rm process :)11:50
shadeofgreyahhhh11:50
shadeofgreyTHANKS!11:50
chavoshadeofgrey, ~ means your home directory11:50
lsuactiafnerwhistle @ it11:50
lsuactiafnerhey Seveas (:11:50
qzertySeveas: hahhaha, it has to start an rm process!11:50
shadeofgreyoh, wow...11:50
rrittenhouseSeveas: How do you install one once you are in ubuntu then?11:51
chavojust make a .fonts directory in there and cp the ttfs over, unless you want them systemwide11:51
rrittenhouseSeveas: i cannot find how to do this...11:51
Seveasrrittenhouse, apt-get install linus-686-smp11:51
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theretherhi ppl. I have some problems. i cant play mp3 on my rhythm and box...someone can help me ?:)11:52
gpdif I want to move files with spaces in the name... using a for loop... how do I escape it?11:52
Seveas!tell therether about mp311:52
rrittenhouseSeveas: Do you need these restricted modules and everything else that came with the i386 kernel?11:52
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karim_hi11:52
qzertySeveas: The joke was in that -exec too only starts one rm process, and it doesn't need to start an xargs11:53
kbrooksgpd: you dont11:53
Seveasgpd, something like for X in *; mv "$X" "$X".bak; done11:53
kbrooks""11:53
kbrooksuse it.11:53
gpdkbrooks: yeah that is what i was trying... :(11:53
Seveasqzerty, hmm, I'll have to read up on find11:53
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esac_i got it, thanks kbrooks11:53
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kbrooksesac_: np11:54
karim_I got a problem with ATI drivers and xorg. Xorg says that he "can't open default font "fixed" "11:54
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Zurawikhey does anyone have any experience with wireless keyboards/mice? just installed ubuntu again and my bluetooth stuff won't work at all11:54
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gpdSeveas: I have the list of files in a files... and it is printing each fragment of the name per line...11:55
CryptidSeveas, i screwed up my rpos is there any way i can restore it to the default setting please help i want it to be the way it was when i installed ubuntu first11:55
hjack_What do I do with a .bin?11:55
theretherSeveas, can you help me :) i can play mp3 in xmms beep etc, but in RandBox no...11:55
SeveasCryptid, hoary or breezy?11:56
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Seveastherether, you need gstreamer0.8-mad11:56
HatchLingHi, all.11:56
creatini just instaled ubuntu, it didn't ask a root password at install, and now when i try to do things it asks me for one, is the a default password?11:56
dbwgpd: cat /path/to/list | while read thing ; do mv "$thing" "$thing.bak" ; done11:56
hjack_lol11:56
hjack_!root11:56
Cryptidseveas, hoary11:56
ubotu[root]  disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo11:56
tony_I have a question on how to find a folder when someone gets a chance.11:56
hjack_see that creatin?11:57
BelutzSeveas, how do i force remove a program?11:57
Cashelqzerty, I noticed you had linux-header 2.6.12-9-k7 in there, is there a precompiled kernel for k7 too?11:57
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SeveasCryptid, sudo wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d969 -O /etc/apt/sources.list11:57
creatinthen how do i change users and things?11:57
Seveasnote that the O in -O is a captital 'oh'11:57
HatchLingI just downloaded and burned the LiveCD of 4.10.  I'm getting a GRUB error 17 when I try to boot from it.  What might be the cause/solution?11:57
Cryptidseveas will that fix the problem11:57
theretherSeveas, that is the problem. I have gstreamer0.8-mad instaled but doesnt work :(11:57
kbrooksSeveas, see this is why 0 and O is confusing11:57
SeveasBelutz, dpkg -P --force-(what needs to be forced here) $packagename11:57
SeveasCryptid, that will install a pristine sources.list11:58
juliaintenni created a launcher on my desktop that directs firefox to open a gmail url; but when i dblclick it i don't get the spinning disc cursor11:58
juliaintennwhy?11:58
Seveascreatin, system -> administration -> users11:58
qzertyCashel: Yes I ran that command as an apt-cache search from irssi's exec and had it thrown to channel11:58
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kbrooksWhat's -O? output?11:58
gpddbw: while read filename; do cp "$filename" /newdirectory; done < mp3.txt11:58
ompaulHatchLing, consider burning one of the later editions  much better stuff all together11:58
Seveaskbrooks, yes11:58
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StricklinMay I install my own TrueType fonts?11:59
kbrooksSeveas, OK11:59
theretherSeveas, i have that gstreamer instaled but doesnt work ...:(:(11:59
SeveasStricklin, no ;)11:59
Cashelqotta love irssi11:59
Seveas(stricklin: sure, put them in a folder named .fonts in your homedir)11:59
ilba7r!intel graphics media11:59
ubotuilba7r: What?11:59
ilba7r! hardware support11:59
HatchLingompaul: 4.10 was recommended for stability.  My real priority here is to get my box on my wireless LAN using the wireless adapter I've already got, which requires ndiswrapper.11:59
ubotuilba7r: Do they come in packets of five?11:59
BelutzSeveas, so dpkg -P --force-remove packagename ?11:59
Cashelsoon as I get my 3d accel going I'll have to reinstall it.. miss my scripts... heh11:59
Seveastherether, did you mess with esd (the sound server)11:59
Cryptid!repositories12:00
uboturepositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy))12:00
ilba7r!hardware support12:00
ubotuilba7r: I don't know, could you explain it?12:00
SeveasBelutz, more like --force-depends and the like12:00

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